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Vortex (FOC)

2011-12-21T23:40:41Z

Captain-lelouch:

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Vortex is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[image:FOC_Vortex.jpg|thumb|left/right|Xpx|]]

'''Vortex''' is a Decepticon. Along with the other [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]]s, he can form [[Bruticus Maximus (WFC)|Bruticus Maximus]].

==Games==
===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' (360/PS3)===
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (360/PS3)|Fall of Cybertron}}

[[Category:Video game-only characters]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]

Vortex (FOC)

2011-12-21T23:40:29Z

Captain-lelouch:

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Vortex is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[image:FOC_Vortex.jpg|thumb|left/right|Xpx|caption.]]

'''Vortex''' is a Decepticon. Along with the other [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]]s, he can form [[Bruticus Maximus (WFC)|Bruticus Maximus]].

==Games==
===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' (360/PS3)===
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (360/PS3)|Fall of Cybertron}}

[[Category:Video game-only characters]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]

File:FOC Vortex.jpg

2011-12-21T23:39:51Z

Captain-lelouch:

Blast Off (FOC)

2011-12-21T23:32:55Z

Captain-lelouch:

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Blast Off is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[image:FOC_Blast_Off.jpg|thumb|left/right|Xpx|]]

'''Blast Off''' is a Decepticon. Along with the other [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]]s, he can form [[Bruticus Maximus (WFC)|Bruticus Maximus]].

==Games==
===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' (360/PS3)===
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (360/PS3)|Fall of Cybertron}}

[[Category:Video game-only characters]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]

File:FOC Blast Off.jpg

2011-12-21T23:30:51Z

Captain-lelouch:

Swindle (FOC)

2011-12-21T23:26:53Z

Captain-lelouch:

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Swindle is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[image:FOC_Swindle.jpg|thumb|left/right|Xpx|]]

'''Swindle''' is a Decepticon.

==Games==
===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' (360/PS3)===
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (360/PS3)|Fall of Cybertron}}
{{charstubfiction}}

[[Category:Video game-only characters]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]

Talk:Swindle (FOC)

2011-12-21T23:23:35Z

Captain-lelouch:

I have a photo of Swindle, and I uploaded it. But I can't figure out how to put it on the page.--[[User:Captain-lelouch|Captain-lelouch]] 17:17, 20 December 2011 (EST)
:: You put the name of the image like so: <nowiki>[[image:imagename|thumb|left/right|Xpx|caption.]]</nowiki> But before you put it on, is it good quality? Because having no image is better than having a crummy, blurry one. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 17:20, 20 December 2011 (EST)
:::Yeah, it's good quality. Same as my pictures for Vortex and Blast-Off--[[User:Captain-lelouch|Captain-lelouch]] 18:23, 21 December 2011 (EST)

Talk:Swindle (FOC)

2011-12-20T22:17:00Z

Captain-lelouch: New page: I have a photo of Swindle, and I uploaded it. But I can't figure out how to put it on the page.--~~~~

I have a photo of Swindle, and I uploaded it. But I can't figure out how to put it on the page.--[[User:Captain-lelouch|Captain-lelouch]] 17:17, 20 December 2011 (EST)

Swindle (FOC)

2011-12-20T22:13:24Z

Captain-lelouch: New page: {{faction|decepticon}} :''Swindle is an Decepticon from the Fall of Cybertron portion of the Aligned continuity family.'' '''Swindle''' is a Decepticon. ==Games== ===''Transf...

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Swindle is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

'''Swindle''' is a Decepticon.

==Games==
===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron'' (360/PS3)===
{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (360/PS3)|Fall of Cybertron}}
{{charstubfiction}}

[[Category:Video game-only characters]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]

File:FOC Swindle.jpg

2011-12-20T22:08:48Z

Captain-lelouch:

Talk:Sentinel Prime (ROTF)

2011-08-17T11:15:33Z

Captain-lelouch: /* Design Refrence */

Do you have a quote of Sentinel being specifically mentioned in the comic? I don't remember anything past the uni scene. While the original thirteen were killed by the Fallen in the comic and novel, there's nothing to confirm Sentinel wasn't a descendant like Optimus. Again, correct me if I'm wrong[[User:Eire]] 20.14 Oct 12 09 (UTC)
:"See, if you break down the elemental components of energon and assume a constant decay rate then extrapolate for each of the fourteen galactic convergences it took '''''Sentinel Prime's''''' expedition to get an echo you end up with a formula for inter-dimensional energy that mass and light alone can't '''''possibly''''' explain." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:28, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
::Erm ok, thanks for the quote Starfield, anyway, Jetfire explained in the adaptations that The Fallen returned to Cybertron, after the battle with the first generation for Earth, slaughtering all the Primes except for the child hidden from him (Optimus). Unless Sentinel is revealed to be alive in TF3, which is unlikely considering this was not mentioned in the final edit of ROTF, then he probably died because of The Fallen. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 17:57, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Starfield, I actually wanted the answer Alientraveller gave. I'm well aware of Sentinel's existence in the movieverse, but I just couldn't remember a reference in issue 3 [[User:Eire]]

::"the fourteen galactic convergences it took '''the''' Sentinel Prime expedition to"
::"The", and no possessive.
::Look, '''I''' think it's the leader of the 7/12/13 too... but the phrasing in the movie itself (which I just checked on, er... Youtube) '''isn't''' clear-cut enough to even say for certain that Sentinel Prime is an individual-- let alone that he's one of the 12! The phrasing is just... ambiguous, and the timeline is a godawful mess thanks to ROTF's 17,000 years retcon, and questions of whether the 13 in the movie are '''the''' 13 or not. (They're not. I mean... the movie fucking cut them down to 7. But until something official comes through to make it certain... it's just a collosal brain-ache that makes logical inference almost impossible.)
::Now... I ''thought'' that something... (a book or video game?) mentioned movieverse Sentinel Prime in a clearer light, but if so... it was around the time we were swamped with new stuff, and the ref never got documented. Does this sound familiar to anyone else?
::I have checked the following sources, and they do '''not''' mention Sentinel Prime in a helpful manner:
::*ROTF novelization (quote same as movie, with an added bit at the end. Nothing from Jetfire's history lesson or the Infinite White.)
::*The Movie Universe guidebook. No mention of Sentinel Prime by name
::-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The first time I heard Sentinel mentioned was in the movie. And the Sentinel Prime expedition. You'd be forgiven for presuming, and really there's no reason not too, it was named after the Prime in charge. And given the massively different origin of the Primes in the movie compared to the adaptations, it seems again logical that he's simple a predecessor of Optimus, not one of the original Primes. There is some assumptions being made, however they are logical assumptions. IF you're concerned, throw in a note at the bottom. Personally, I think it's a bit of an assumption that Sentinel in the comics is one of the original Primes, but I can see why AT put it the way he did [[User:Eire]] 13.35 Oct 13 09 (UTC)

== Fannon ==

I'm '''really''' uncomfortable witht he ammoutn of assumptions and made-up shit on this page. The cited blog post ''does'' establish Sentinel Prime to be a character-- but it doesn't ''in any way'' say he's Prime and Megatron's father, or that he's one of the original 12. And the storylink citing his death... Sentinel Prime's name isn't even MENTIONED in that issue! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:37, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
:I'm just going to risk my life here and say "Is this Shattered Glass Derik speaking?" --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:51, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

== Move to (DOTM)? ==

Should we move this to "Sentinel Prime (DOTM)"? We moved "Soundwave (Movie)" to [[Soundwave (ROTF)]], ignoring when he was mentioned by Starscream in the UK magazine for the first film. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:03, 11 February 2011 (EST)
:An offhand mention in the freaking UK mag letters page is not exactly the same thing as Sentinel's existence being firmly established in the Revenge of the Fallen film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:18, 11 February 2011 (EST)
::The Lord Of All Cheeses thirds the motion.
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:25 PM, 15 February 2011 A.D.
:::Thirds what motion? We have one person on each side so far. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 01:42, 16 February 2011 (EST)
::::I'm saying this page ought to be moved. '''Alientraveler''' proposed the idea. '''Detour''' seems to be saying this guy shouldn't be in ROTF (unless I misinterpreted; he seems to say "a mention in a UK comic's letters page doesn't count as Sentinel's existence in ROTF"). '''My vote''' makes a three.
::::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 9:48 PM, February 2011 A.D.
:::::Detour is pointing out that Sentinel Prime is mentioned in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' film, which counts as establishing SP's existence, so ROTF is correct. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:59, 17 February 2011 (EST)
::::::http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/Semysane/Response%20Images/748411.gif -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 04:59, 18 February 2011 (EST)
:::::::Sam mentions Sentinel Prime during his meltdown in the classroom in ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', thus establishing Sentinel Prime exists as a character. As the first mention of Sentinel Prime is in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', his article is as "Sentinel Prime (ROTF)". Clearer? :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:13, 18 February 2011 (EST)
::::::::Oh, I got it. I just never get enough chances to use that image. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:33, 18 February 2011 (EST)
:I get that it's established wiki policy to always go with the earliest whatever, but it's very confusing to all but the most hardcore and observant RotF viewers and wiki editors (sorry for the redundancy there). In DotM he was the major plot-driving character voiced by an actor with decades of Transformers association; in RotF he was about a syllable and a half of incoherent mumbling. Unlike Arcee in the first movie franchise, S.P. didn't even get a toy in RotF. For the sake of clarity and the casual browser, might his entry be attached to the film in which he actually appears? Is there perhaps a more general title, even, to indicate immediately that this article fully encompasses the one singular character throughout the Bay films' continuity family? [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 23:02, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
::I think a simple redirect solves all problems. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

== Sentinel~Vector? ==

Is it my imagination, or does Sentinel Prime bear a striking resemblence to Vector Prime?--[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 01:48, 13 February 2011 (EST)
:Definitely your imagination. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 05:49, 18 February 2011 (EST)
::I see the resemblance mostly in those enormous shoulders. Beyond that, not really much of a resemblance. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 11:35, 3 March 2011 (EST)
::: Indeed. He more resembles RID Prime. [[Special:Contributions/96.247.85.33|96.247.85.33]] 00:16, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

== Sentinel Prime in Empire magazine. ==

How should we mention [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/375241-sentinel-optimus-uk-empire-cover.html these images?] --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 11:42, 3 March 2011 (EST)

== Caption ==

Live-action Hyper Goldfish? WTF is that?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 13:51, 6 March 2011 (EST)
:The Japanese version of Optimus Prime (RID) had a voice chip that sounded to some people as if it were saying "Hyper Goldfish Golfball". The Leader class Sentinel Prime looks something like the RID Prime, and is from a live action movie. Thus, Live-action Hyper Goldfish. I would recommend a crosslink in the caption, but some people hate those with an unreasoning passion. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:00, 6 March 2011 (EST)
::Much thanks for the clarification. The RiD Optimus Prime page doesn't even mention the background you so helpfully supply. Is there some sort of award for most obscure caption reference on the site? [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 23:08, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

== Alpha Trion caption ==

How does it not work anymore?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 13:15, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
:Personally, I don't see why it ever worked in the first place. --[[Special:Contributions/81.164.209.246|81.164.209.246]] 13:24, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
::It never did, no. It was never an Alpha Trion homage redeco. It was just heavily-airbrushed enough to look purpleish. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:25, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
:::I think that was the joke (such as it was) that there's "already" an Alpha Trion redeco due to the purple nature of the image, which, at the time, was the only stock photo of that toy. Anyway, I replaced the photo because the colours were pretty damn wrong. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:35, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

== Two different Speed Stars Bumbebee two packs ==

Hey, why are there two slightly different Bumblebee Speed Stars two packs. [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=69D4438D-5056-900B-1000-7E6F6EA5EAE9:en_US Item 29596] and [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=6EDC5079-5056-900B-10F1-6428DAB7F112:en_US item 29588]? The package art is even slightly different. Both should be listed, right? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:41, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

== Three sayings on the Leader toy? ==

Er... there must be something I'm doing wrong, then.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:05, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
:You have to put a MechTach weapon in his shoulder peg hole to hear them.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 16:12, 19 May 2011 (EDT)
::Just tried it out and it's apparently true. Still, I'm pretty sure the article should mention that little feature and how to ''enable'' it... [[Special:Contributions/58.69.69.194|58.69.69.194]] 21:43, 21 May 2011 (EDT)

== Minor design flaw? ==

On mine, it looks like the left heel pieces don't seem to line up correctly, and as such don't snap together right. Is anyone else having this issue? -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 11:07, 23 May 2011 (EDT)
:First, if I didn't have the same problem on mine, I wouldn't know which Sentinel you were talking about. Clarify a bit more next time? And yeah, mine does that too. It's flipping annoting. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:44, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
::Could one of you tell us which Sentinel Prime you are talking about? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:32, 25 July 2011 (EDT)
:::The Leader Sentinel. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 15:53, 30 July 2011 (EDT)
::::Sorry about that. Should have clarified - the Voyager wasn't out yet when I made the first post, at least in my area, and I didn't think of that. Found another, potentially - the clips that hold the shoulders in place BREAK EASY. They're tiny and thin, which I didn't notice until the piece on the left arm fell apart while it was being transformed. Anyone else have the same issue here too? --[[Special:Contributions/71.176.28.17|King Starscream]] 14:38, 7 August 2011 (EDT)

== We need to make this a featured. ==

Any way we could come together and finish his fiction sections and whatnot? I think it's important this page is our featured this coming month, like The Fallen was for the last movie. I'm pretty okay with just promoting it anyway once July starts, even if there's some stuff left out. It just needs a spotlight. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Spoilers on Sentinel. ==

Okay, I haven't seen the movie yet, but I have seen spoilers, and there is one question I have that could seriously spoil for anyone, so be warned: Should we consider Sentinel a Decepticon? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:58, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:01, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
::My memory may be fuzzy, but doesn't he call himself a Decepticon once they take over Chicago? Or does he keep calling himself an Autobot?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 17:13, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
:::Sentinel makes a point of slapping Megatron around when he tries talking like they're all a happy family, so...no.[[User:ShinRa Actual|ShinRa Actual]] 18:05, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
::::I've noticed this news actually spread on this site already (Shockwave's page pretty much blows it). Should we remove instances that we see so not to spoil the film just yet [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 10:11, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
Sentinel Prime wouldn't be the first Autobot to make a deal with the devil. {{unsigned|Dragonspike74}}

Definitely not. It might just be the way I interpreted his lines and mood but he seemed almost disgusted that he felt he had to make a deal with the Decepticons to save Cybertron. I certainly don't think he sees himself as one of them at all. Just an Autobot traitor. [[Special:Contributions/86.31.67.9|86.31.67.9]] 11:15, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

:::In the comic book adaptation, at least, he calls himself the "true leader of the Autobots", and claims that ''Optimus'' is the traitor. So, that should be absolute, explicit proof that he's considered an Autobot.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.165|192.249.47.165]] 14:08, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
::::He essentially usurps control of the Decepticons from Megatron (as evidenced by Carley statements to Megatron), commands them AS HIS OWN FORCES (And in fact the Decepticons are his only forces in the film) and tries to have all of the Autobots killed, not to mention he admits to having beleived the war to be unwinable by the Autobots thus striking a deal with Megatron and Megatron seeming to have accepted him as an equal with SENTINEL being the one trying to subdue MEGATRON.I see no reason that we shouldn't put him as a Decepticon seeing whos side he's on in the film. He doesn't seem to have any intention of commanding the Autobots at all. Sentinel's got much more of a case then Lockdown who simply sides with the Decepticons more often than the Autobots due to the higher pay they give him but still works with the Autobots like when he helps that series' Sentinel to roundup Decepticons whereas Sentinel here (as I mentioned earlier) actually takes command of the Decepticons.) --[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 04:03, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

== Caption request ==

When we start adding screenshots from the movie, can one of them use "This is the one where Spock goes crazy."?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 13:14, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
:"Goes nuts." And once the movie's been seen by more people, maybe in a week or two, that quote is TOTALLY going up at the top of the DOTM film article, same place as last movie's "I will have my revenge!" It sums up the movie pretty much the best. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:17, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

== Jerk ==

Could we mention (perhaps in a caption) that as a turncoat, this actully makes him a bigger jerk than his Animated counterpart, which I thought was impossible.[[User:Burnout|Burnout]] 17:39, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
:That joke was tired two years ago.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:08, 4 July 2011 (EDT)
:I was thinking the same thing actually. I think it'd be good in the Notes section since it looks like the type of thing people put there (aside from actual trivia). I'd say go for it regardless of how old the Joke is, it doesn't make it any less applicable. I was thinking that a similar mention would be good on Animated Sentinel's page.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 04:09, 27 July 2011 (EDT)
Hey, I thought he was BIG jerk too.(Never seen the movie though.)
Maybe Sentinel(TFA) wanted to get revenge on Optimus(TFA).
So, he decided to get a role on Dark of the Moon.
His audition was successful. All he needed to do was change his alternate mode to make sure nobody knew it was him.
When the moment was right he could get revenge on Optimus(For stealing his fifteen stellar cycles of fame).
However,on set he was killed. And it was caught on film!
Let's just say there is more than meets the eye with Sentinel.

== Back Kibble ==
What exactly are those things? I swear in parts of the movie, they wiggled as if some kind of flexible cape or tank-treads.. what part of the vehicle do they correspond to?
:On the Leader Class toy, the kibble hanging off his back in robot mode (which, I agree, looks like a cape of some kind) becomes the side panels of his vehicle mode. [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 22:42, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

I've plugged in a mechtech weapon on the back Sentinel's head. He looks a little funny with Barricade's weapon sticking up. {{unsigned|Dragonspike74}}

== About the Genesis Caption... ==

I don't get it...can anyone explain?[[User:Kaine852|Kaine852]] 00:29, 7 July 2011 (EDT)
:It's a line from Mr. Spock in Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan. Spock was played by Leonard Nimoy, who voiced Sentinel Prime. I'm more curious about why it's used on two different images. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:44, 7 July 2011 (EDT)

== 316 meaning? ==
Is there a particular meaning or significance to the number 316 on SP's vehicle mode? Seems lately like anything of that sort on a TF is an in-joke or reference (Wal-Mart "84" DotM Bumblebee, anyone?). I'm in the dark on this one, though. -- [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 23:46, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
:[[wikipedia: John 3:16]] Stone Cold used to reference it back in the 90s, etc. [[User:ShinRa Actual|ShinRa Actual]] 20:06, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::While that is a meaning for 316, I'm not sure if it is relevant here. Do you really think that the person who designed Sentinel Prime's deco was thinking of that when the number was selected? He or she could have meant it that way, but I'd like official confirmation.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:13, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::You're right; John 3:16 may be the most widely known association for the number, but it doesn't seem to fit here. It's not a biblical verse that's particularly relevant to the story of this Sentinel Prime... If they were going for biblical references I'd expect something about a deal with the devil or about the ends justifying the means, something related to the DotM plot. Unless it's known that the designer(s) for SP is/are devout Christians/big pro wrestling fans? A Steve Austin joke is fine for a caption, but as yet the connection seems a bit tenuous for the wiki proper. -- [[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 15:39, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:::The Hasbro designers probably didn't known the film's twist so they innocently played up the Optimus/Jesus analogy with Sentinel as The Father, unaware he was just another Evil Mentor-type. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:42, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
::::Aren't the same numbers on his vehicle mode in the movie? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:52, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::[http://brusimm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Transformers-3-Sentinal-Prime-alternate-vehicle-mode-on-set.jpg Why, yes they are]. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:54, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:Maybe it means he scanned № 316 fire truck. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:58, 14 July 2011 (EDT)
:316 is the area code for Wichita, Kansas, if that means anything. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:45, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

== Can we... ==
Can we add something about him being the Einstein of his civilisation? Something along the lines of "Sentinel was once known as the Einstein of his planet. That's not exactly wrong [[Wheeljack (Movie)|but...]] --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 12:32, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
:"He was the Einstein of his civilization." "I thought that guy who looked like Einstein was the Einstein of his civilization?" [[Special:Contributions/207.255.27.100|207.255.27.100]] 13:45, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

== Design Refrence ==

I've noticed that Sentinal Primes design kinda looks Robots In Disquise Optimus. Think this was intentional? {{unsigned|Captain-lelouch|05:30, 17 August 2011 (EDT)}}
:It does? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:33, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
::Not really. They share similar altmodes, but that comes with the territory of being a fire truck. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:42, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
I was thinking the alt. mode, the standered window-moobs for all Primes, and the lader being on RID Optimus's Battle Mode's back looks kind of like Sentinal's cape --[[User:Captain-lelouch|Captain-lelouch]] 07:15, 17 August 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Megatron (Movie)

2011-08-17T09:32:18Z

Captain-lelouch:

== Human Name jokes ==

We might as well make the article play on his human-given names.
:: I was considering a 'Super Fighting Robot Mega-Man' joke, but I don't know how many people would think that's funny. [[User:VeePickle|VeePickle]] 12:23, 27 March 2010 (EDT)

== Megatron's Cybertronian form ==

Has anyone else noticed that Megatron's vehicle form bares more than a passing resemblance to the ''Swordfish'', the personal ship flown by Spike Spiegel in ''Cowboy BeBop''? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

::Not really, no. --[[User:EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 12:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:::The only difference is it's A. silver, and B. has three guns instead of one.

:I agree, it looks very similar. The wings in particular. I mean, it doesn't exactly look like THE Swordfish, but it looks like a 'mono-racer' from Bebop at least.

::::It looks more like the Zone of the Enders version of the Vic Viper than the Swordfish, at least to me it does.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 03:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

:I actually found it looked like [[Megatron (RID)|the other megatrons`]] jet mode.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 01:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I see it. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Earth Mode ==

According to Wikipedia and IGN, Megatron turns into a stealth bomber. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 22:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
: Until either one is verified by anything official, we're not including that "info". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::Reading the IGN article, they said they got this from playing an early version of the Movie's game. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 01:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Still makes it somewhere between unconfirmed second-hand report and leaked info. With this sort of thing patience is best. IF it is true we'll all no for sure soon enough and it can go up then.n--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Seibertron reported recently that some of the production staff hinted at Megatron not getting an Earth form after all, at least in this movie. I'd say wait until the movie comes out, because even if they make a toy it's still not confirmed. [[User:King Starscream]] 13:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::From the book media I've perused, Megatron stays silvery and alieny the entire course of it all. There's other things I saw, but I shan't go into them since all these books come out tomorrow and you can spoil yourself then. [[User:Terrocon Blot]]
::::::Which book? Sounds interesting. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 03:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::All the kids books that come out tomorrow. The I can read, storybook, junior novels, etc. Heck, a few of the books have Megatron and Brawl standing side by side. He ain't Brawl. All these books come out tomorrow, and will be on display in your local book stores. (Seriously, this is screwed up. I can't seem to edit pages when I'm logged in.) [[User:Terrocon Blot]]
::::::::Looking at game footage, either the Stealth-Bomber Megs was an early idea that was discarded, or he gets an Earth mode later in the game. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 19:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

==Sibling status==
I strongly question the inclusion of he and Optimus being brothers in the main bio, unless that is backed up by the movie itself, or some future toy bio, or other source stronger than books based on earlier drafts of the script. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
: If the movie does not contradict it, surely it is still true. :)
: FOr what it's worth- the prequel comics had this vibe goigng too, the ADF novelization mentions brushes by it,t he junior novelization says it explicitly... and I think there's at least 1 more source. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
: The DS game says so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::As does the console version. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Okay, yeah. The game counts a stonger source. Although if it's not mentioned in the movie itself, I think it's going to require a footnote notation citing the places it is. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::::The Decepticon DS version also says it flat out.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::What we have now is correct, and there is no need to change anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::For the record to future peoples, Optimus does call Megatron his bro in the movie.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
:ROTF seems to ditch the sibling idea; the plot '''hinges''' on 'the Fallen lied to you, you need to be descended from a Prime to be a Prime!', which... er... they ''can't'' be related.
:I don't dispute that these two ''are'' siblings in some continuities... but can we ''not'' make it the '''first sentence''' of his bio? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:07, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
: Could it be that, in some strange crazy way, Megatron/Optimus was adopted? This would still make them brothers in a sense.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:13, 14 August 2009 (EDT)

==*More* Misassemblies==

Yeah. I just got Super Megs and, uh, his hands are flipped. Or rather, I guess it's his thumbs and pinkies. Look at the box and compare. This should probably be noted... [[User:71.61.152.122|71.61.152.122]] 07:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:Geeeeez, you're right. Is there anything assembled ''right'' on this guy?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:20, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
::I'm comparing photos at Seibertron.com, and um...I'm not seeing it.
:::It's most noticable in the picture of his macehand, but you can see it in the big one too. Don't look at 'pics' of the box, look at it with your own two eyes. >.> [[User:71.60.159.181|71.60.159.181]] 09:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== Galvatron ==

I strongly belive that the allspark will resurect megatron in a future sequel and possibly reformat him into galvatron. It'll probebly bring him back to life at least
:I don't deny that I think the AllSpark will play a part in Megs's revival, but I highly doubt (and strongly hope) that he won't become Galvatron.

== Marinas Trench ==

I realize Keller said the Decepticons were dropped into the deepest section of ocean in the world, but he calls it specifically something other than the Marinas Trench. To that end, using "Marinas Trench" doesn't seem exactly right to me. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to quite decipher what he DID call it. Was anybody else? And what does other media say about the location? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 15:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I concur that the trench name from the film should be used here instead of the Marianas. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:Keller says "Laurentian Trench," which is a real ocean feature but by no means its deepest. He also says it's the deepest spot on the ocean at over 7 miles deep, which is correct for the Marianas. So, a fact-finding flub. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

::How dare the Secretary of Defense not be completely up to speed on the name of the deepest part of the ocean. (seriously, it's entirely possible that Keller had no idea what hte fuck he was talking about.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Either that, or Michael bay didn't do his homework.--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 16:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Or Maybe in their Dimension, it IS the deepest? [[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 11:59, 24 May 2009 (EDT)

=="The Head Wars"==

the one present right now is a little blurry, wouldn't that one be better? [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg]--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 18:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
: No, because that one doesn't have the right head. We replaced the one you suggested with the current version. (Blurry? It's a sized-down version of a gigantic-ass render straight from Dreamworks.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
::Um, yes it does. The Current one has the wrong head. Screencap comparison coming momentarily. Please stand by. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] 19:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::There is no more-current render to move to. There is a much older, outdated one that ''somebody'' keeps reverting to, but the one we currently use is practically the one used in the movie, if not the very same. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Not the same. The top of the head in the final version is different. [[:Image:MegHeads.jpg|Here. ''Now'' tell me I'm wrong.]][[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] 20:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:The head we currently have is way way way way way way closer than the alternative. Find us a full-body render that's a better alternative, and we'll switch them out, but there is none. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::[http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg GUIGUI's] ''is'' the accurate head. It's just got blue eyes. But considering the eyes of some movie images on the wiki aren't even glowing ''at all'' I don't think that should be an issue.
:::Don't answer me with another block. ''Please.'' I'm just trying to help the wiki. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 16:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::That is so totally not the final Megatron. This render showed up months before the one we're currently using, and they hadn't even finished texturing the model. Please drop the issue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, now I'm confused. Is the body wrong on [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg that one] or something? [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 17:22, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:I think it's just shaded wrong(no shadows), and his torso is not completely "filled" with metal.-the preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]]
::That doesn't seem like a good excuse. And please sign your posts. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 15:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I looked at the image again, and it does look a bit odd. But not very much. I suggest a poll/survey of the admins to decide who thinks it should be Meg's main pic, as the torso bit is the only problem. It won't be visible in thumbnail format anyhow. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::The Megatron model has two heads, a standard head and the battle head. The final promotional render with all the completed surface detail, which we are using, uses the standard head. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Admins, please put "Yes" after your name if you think the current image should be changed to [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg this one], or "No" if you think it should stay as-is.[[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The current poll:

[[User:ItsWalky]]: He hasn't officially voted yet, but it seems as though his answer will be '''"No."'''

[[User:Steve-o]]:Insert vote here

[[User:Suki Brits]]:I think she says '''"No,"''' too.

[[User:Chris McFeely]]:Insert vote here

:If I missed an admin, please notify them and add them here. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::you know, the admins aren't the only ones who have a say in this. And given that the model in the current image is almost if not completely identical to the one used in the movie it should be left as is. IMO, your argument is kinda like saying we need a new main image for [[Optimus Primal]] because it has a mouth doesn't have a full faceplate like the final model, even though the final model had both "mouth" and "faceplate" versions. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, we can't poll ''everyone''. I'm relatively new, lucky enough to have found the admins listed somewhere. I wouldn't know who else to ask. And That Primal thing does not make sense. I ''know'' he had a mouth ''and'' a [[mouthplate]]. I'm saying the current image has the '''''wrong head''''', and it should be fixed. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 20:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::This is bordering on farce.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. If Inferno's Queen does not immediately drop the matter, I will get rid of her for refusing to stop wasting all of our time and polluting the Recent changes page with this retarded personal gripe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:::::<big>'''I'''</big>

:::::<big>'''AM'''</big>

:::::<big>'''A'''</big>

:::::<big>'''GUY!'''</big> [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:Inferno's Queen, it's like I said on the image's talk page: we don't have a full body shot of Megatron's final design, so we're going with the most accurate one. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

After the poll is completed, this will end. Deal?[[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:...you don't get to dictate policy to admins.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::That's not quite true. If she keeps this up, she'll likely dictate a permaban on herself :p --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Fine already! I'll leave the issue alone if you stop calling me a girl!
:::<big>'''''I AM A GUY!!!'''''</big> [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 12:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, dude, is this all you've got to offer?! This is such an incredibly minor issue that it's nowhere worth the amount of discussion that has already gone on about it. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

This is mind-blowingly petty. I don't feel the need to express any opinion on the matter, it's pretty damn clear what the consensus is. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 04:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== video game info ==

should we edit it to have more info on megatron in the game?
:...Deathy? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

==Weapon names==
The article currently contains the current text in its movie summary: "Megatron declared that if Prime wished to defend them, he should die with them, forming his fusion cannon. Before he could fire, the Autobot leader drew his ion blaster and fired, hitting Megatron." Do we have any reason/justification for referring to those weapons so specifically as a fusion cannon and ion blaster? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 00:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:In the trivia section of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Prime]]'s article, it's called an ion blaster. As for the fusion cannon...-- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Doesn't Leader Megatron's toy packaging say "Arms combine to form fusion cannon!" or something along those lines? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Answering my own question by looking up DVD's review, yes it does. And the product listing at Hasbro.com says: "Robot mode also features a launching rocket claw that becomes a chain whip, and arms that combine to create a fusion cannon!" --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==Language==
According to the Circuit City voice featurette, the producers made up an alien language (or Hugo Weaving did, the wording is vague), and Weaving is shown speaking in it as Megatron. Did this make it into the final film? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 14:10, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:There *is* a Cybertronian language spoken by several characters (Frenzy most notably, I guess, plus Starscream, and actually 'every' Decepticon during the call-up scene) but nobody really knows if it's just jibberish with a flanger on or something. That, and Megs 'never' speaks Cybertronian in the movie, so this makes it even stranger. The idea behind the Cybertronians speaking a different language isn't Weaving's, however, because that was in the leaked script that came out long before Weaving was cast. [[User:71.60.159.181|71.60.159.181]] 23:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
::Actually Megatron did speak Cybertronian in the movie (it was during when he first landed in Mission City).

==Encased in ice at the bottom of the ocean?==
Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no ice at the bottom of the ocean. Ice is less dense than water so any particles cold enough to freeze float above those who aren't cold enough. (Contrary to normal laws of convection; ice is weird like that) so Megatron and the Decepticons wouldn't be icy at all. Just really cold and crushed under immense water pressure.

: Indeed, because water increases in volume when it freezes,t the freezing point of water ''decreases'' with pressure, i.e. it becomes harder to freeze water which is under pressure. This is the reason why liquid oceans are believed to exist under Europa's icy coating, for example. [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 07:21, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

==Megu said ''what''?==
When Megu arrives in Mission City, he says two sentences. Just when he lands, he says something that I heard as "Let me play!" But what did he say after that? Because, the article says that Megu again declared his name when arriving in M City, but he didn't sound like that. Will someone clarify what exactly he said? StarShade 09:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:He was speaking Cybertronian, no-one knows exactly what he says. Although he does appear to pronounce his name one more time.

==Premium==
Does anyone know if the premium series leader Megatron has corrected the assembly errors?--[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 19:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

==Screen Grabs==
Well since the trailer has been offically released, and Megatron has a few good clear shots in it, can we post a pic or two under ROTF? Mainly the one where he apparently comes out of the water, which appears to be the best looking shot. Just a sugestion.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 17:47, 2 May 2009 (EDT)

==Triple Changer in ROTF?==
Now, I'm terribly sorry I don't have more info than this, but I was at the mall w/ my GF and picked up a guide to ROTF. Most of the info seemed pretty modern and accurate (things like Jetfire being a seeker and such) and they said that upon his revival, Megatron had become a triple-changer, able to take both modes. I don't know the name of it although... nope, can't find it on Amazon. Can someone else comment on this matter? Has anything been shown to support this or has anyone else seen this guide? The store owner said it was just put out that day, so this may be new. IDK. --[[User:Rideonshootingstarxx|Rideonshootingstarxx]] 20:57, 7 June 2009 (EDT)
:This is correct. In the adaptation he assumes both alt-forms.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:18, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
::In the adaptations he never really "becomes" a triple-changer. At least they don't mention that he ever gains the ability. He just shown to be able to transform into three modes. I'm not sure if we are supposed to believe he always had the ability but didn't have an occasion to turn into a tank before or what. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:36, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Having bought the book now, I can confirm that it says Megatron's status as a triple-changer is the result of his revival, and that it is fairly rare amongst Cybertronians.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:19, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Slight problem. In the novels and what not, he is distinctly described as retaining his jet mode. In the actual film, all scenes where he uses the jet, well, lack it [[User:Eire]]
::::Not really a problem. Adaptations have been mismatched before, and as long as ''one'' source calls him a a triple-changer, in those exact words, it's valid. We don't really need to reconcile the adaptations. That's not our job.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:39, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::From what I remember in the movie you never get a clear look at his flight mode, just the blue glow of his afterburners in the distance. He definitely has a tank mode, but I couldn't tell whether his flight mode is just the tank with the jet engines turned on or a separate vehicle mode, or the tank with wings... Heck it could be a giant flying lunchbox for all I could see. [[User:(Undecided)|(Undecided)]] 17:03, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::His flight mode is a flat square-ish thing - basically, the Voyager toy, but steel instead of green.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:04, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

== G1 homage, anyone? ==
His head has a helmet-like portion very similar to the helmet-like section of G1 Megatron's head. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 21:15, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
:Not really.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
::Well, yeah. He does really.
: : You're thinking of G1 GALVATRON, not Megatron. Galvatron has horns. Megatron has a helmet.
::::Either way, whooptidoo. "Megatron looks like Megatron." Not impressed. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:59, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

== Robot Mode flight ==

Is that a new ability? I don't seem to recall him being able to just fly around in the first movie, but it has been a while since I've seen it. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:28, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

: Do you mean when he lands on the skyscraper, or was there another instance? I figured that he was just continuing on the momentum when he popped out of flying tank mode. How do his jet engines configure in robot mode, maybe they helped? [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 17:23, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
::I was going by memory of the movie. Of course Megatron and the other Decepticons swam up from the abyss. That is multi-ton metal robots swimming to the surface. That is almost flying. Then when they got to open air, I seem to remember them just flying away in robot-mode, but I can't say for certain without seeing it again. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:47, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:::That's right, I'd forgotten about that. We should check whether his boosters were in some sort of "jetpack configuration" for that shot (like Starscream's thrusters), that would square it up. [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 19:49, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::He uses his jet-tank mode to fly in both instances (seemingly transforming just as he breaks the surface when underwater). I checked.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 19:58, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

==Toy split==
I think it's well past time we split the toys into their own subpage... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:28, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
* Seconded. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 15:12, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
**I agree. --[[Special:Contributions/99.232.46.76|99.232.46.76]] 15:59, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

==Reviewing the toys on the wiki==
As long as users such as Walky are (rightly) removing the reviewish comments from the toy descriptions, is there any way one of us can rewrite Movie 1 Legends Megatron's description? The whole thing is taking shots at the toy. If it's inappropriate for the larger Megatrons in the line, then it's inappropriate for this one as well. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C. V. Reynolds]] 17:56, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

==ROTF Megatron prototype on the back of the box==
:"In a rather bizarre twist, the back of megatron's box depicts him with no feet, the foot part of the threads simply did not exist in the test shot prototype. It also appears the threads were originally longer. The button to hold the blade back did not exist either. The prototype even had a production error: the small wheels molded on the back threads are molded on the wrong side, thus they end up on the top of the threads instead of the bottom." I've originaly posted this with they toy after looking at the box for some time. The toy realy did not have feet like the final toy, the threads were also alot shorter then the final toy. I know that the discription i gave it is not done all that well, but i still stand that it's worth to note.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 13:00, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

:Anyone? Am i realy the only one who thinks the legs almost have totaly difrently molded legs?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:01, 14 August 2009 (EDT)

== Triple change: misinformation or abandoned concept? ==

The article states that ''[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]'' and the [[Revenge of the Fallen (comic series)|comic adaptation]] created the idea of Megatron being a triple changer. However, the [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novelization]] mentions that he's a fighter jet several times, and that he takes his tank mode during the battle in Egypt. Additionally, the previsual shots shown on the special two-disc pack show Megatron chasing down Optimus Prime while in jet mode. Is it possible that Megatron really was meant to be a triple changer, and it was simply dropped from the final cut? We an cite plenty of stuff like that happening in the adaptations. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:57, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
:Didn't someone (Orci?) claim that they wanted to save triple changers for movie 3, and there was thus never going to be triple-changing within the movie itself? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:37, 23 October 2009 (EDT)

== Beast wars homage? ==

The rotf voyager toy, kinda looks like beast wars megatron. (Big two finger "claw on the right side, wings and dinosaurish legs)
stills of megatron in transformers dark of the moon

Dang, I thought I was the first to see that. Oh well, I got the Dotm Sentinal=RID Optimus likeness --[[User:Captain-lelouch|Captain-lelouch]] 05:32, 17 August 2011 (EDT)
== stills of dotm megatron ==

does anyone have any stills of megatron from dotm

== Meg's Death ==

Optimus didn't rip off Megatron's head at the end of DOTM. He buried his axe in Megatron's chest, tore it out, slammed it into his head, ''then'' tore it off, and dropped the axe. Just thought I'd help clear that up. [[User:Stormfin|Stormfin]] 04:02, 8 July 2011 (EDT)

== megg's death2 ==

he died by getting an axe in the head and was thrown in the air by it

== Smackdown by Sentinel Prime ==
I'm in the middle of reading the novelization, so I should have backup in a day or so, but the DTOM description is completely incorrect regarding their first confrontation in Chicago.
Sentinel's attack wasn't random, I distinctly remember from watching the movie that it was in reaction to Megatron trying to cozy up to him, suggesting that they shared the same ideals and the same ultimate goals. This seriously infuriated Sentinel, who promptly informed the Decepticon Leader in a way that needed no translation, to never, ever dare to compare himself to Sentinel Prime, ever again.

[[User:SteamPunk Astrotrain|SteamPunk Astrotrain]] 22:43, 16 July 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Sentinel Prime (ROTF)

2011-08-17T09:30:23Z

Captain-lelouch: /* Design Refrence */ new section

Talk:Raf Esquivel

2011-07-18T04:49:30Z

Captain-lelouch:

Seeing as Jack is 16, I ''severely'' doubt Raf is 15, though the statement about who-we-wish-we-were still stands.

Agreed, he is also very short.—[[User:TOM|TOM]] 17:02, 27 November 2010 (EST)
:: Episode 3 answers it. He's 12 and a half.. still -extremely- short even for the level of art stylization.

==Title change==
His name is Raf. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 06:13, 29 November 2010 (EST)
:Not according to his [http://www.hubworld.com/transformers/shows/prime/characters/raf official bio]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:20, 29 November 2010 (EST)
::There's also the credits to take into account (and what he's called referred to); he has both, but it probably doesn't matter. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 09:28, 29 November 2010 (EST)
::It is a good point. Article titles are usually the character's most common nickname. Like Sam Witwicky or Jack Darby. Raf's character bio is even titled "Raf" but Jack's is titled "Jackson". - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:37, 29 November 2010 (EST)

== Sister ==

What's her name? It sounded like "Pelar" to me. [[Special:Contributions/82.15.246.28|82.15.246.28]] 00:17, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
: Yeah, it was hard to make out. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:21, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

== Ears ==

In the third part of [[Darkness Rising]] when Fowler is captured and the alarm goes off in Autobot HQ Raf is the only one of the kids who seems to be affected by it. In fact he makes a comment about it hurting his ears while Jack and Miko both show no signs of the siren doing anything other than making them wonder why it's going off. This certainly seems to suggest he's got much better hearing than they do. Could also explain how he understands Bumblebee. -annonymous, 6/03/2001. 1:59 AM EST

MiNd BlOwN. -Captain-lelouch, 7/17/2011. 9:50 PM EST

User:Captain-lelouch

2011-07-05T20:07:11Z

Captain-lelouch:

Michael "Chance" Wiley is a person. That much is obvious. Also he probably checked out your girlfriend. My, er... ''his'' bad...

==Favorite Characters==
* Movie Que/Wheeljack
* Movie Roadbuster
* Any Wrecker from any universe
* Animated Jazz
* Erector

User:Captain-lelouch

2011-07-05T20:05:32Z

Captain-lelouch: New page: Michael "Chance" Wiley is a person. That much is obvious. Also he probably checked out your girlfriend. My, er... ''his'' bad...

Michael "Chance" Wiley is a person. That much is obvious. Also he probably checked out your girlfriend. My, er... ''his'' bad...

Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

2011-07-05T20:02:46Z

Captain-lelouch:

'''We do not care about leaks. Do not tell us who you saw on the set. Do not present us with images of stolen toys. Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care. Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.'''

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== TITLE ==

[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-3-title-revealed-the-dark-of-the-moon/19947/ Looks like we've got a title.]

--[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:35, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:Can I just go on record that that is a crappy name? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:42, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::I agree with you, but it comes with many joke opportunities.
::I just.....haven't figured out what they are yet. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:53, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::All I can think of is the Alabama song "Fire In The Night". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:57, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::The ''Dark'' of the moon? Does that mean the movie is going to be just another one of those crappy conspiracy theories saying the US didn't get to the moon first? Does this mean this is hardly going to be a movie about Transformers? This seems pretty likely. Also, that name is just borderline teen novel. Hopefully they'll change everything at the last minute into something relatively better like they did before. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 09:59, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Here are some jokes we could use.
:::::"Dark Side of the Moon was taken."
:::::"Is it a Twilight crossover?"
:::::(Thank you Seibertron forum posters!) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 10:01, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::I hadn't even thought about Twilight until Loki said teen novel. Now, I can't get the word "Vampformers" out of my head. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:08, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Does this mean the main pic has to be that shot of John Turturro's as from ROTF?[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 10:22, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::No and shame on you for even thinking it. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 10:27, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::One thing I really like from the first 3 movies (86,07,09) wiki articles are the running joke used throughout. Star Wars, the 86 movie, and Empire Strikes Back. I would have thought we would use nothing but Return of the Jedi quotes here, but with this new title part of me thinks it would be great to use nothing but lyrics off the Dark Side of the Moon album. --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 12:36, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::We picked Star Wars and Empire for their respective films because the TF creative teams in those years specifically compared their products to those films--it was us making a joke out of their marketing idea. Though having captions about ROTJ would obviously "complete the set," I'm kind of against us making jokes out of ''our own traditions'' instead of the traditions of the franchise creators. It would seem like we're just jerking off. So I'd actually prefer Pink Floyd too. Of course, given that there's still a year for someone at Paramount to make a comparison between the respective 3rd films, the point may be moot. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:02, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::Actually, using Pink Floyd quotes here would preserve and extend the pattern we have going. 1st Movie/Star Wars Universe quotes, 2nd Movie/Non-SW quotes, 3rd Movie/SW Universe quotes, 4th Movie/Non-SW quotes. Remember that 1st - 4th is in real world terms, ignoring the fact that the 1st movie was not part of the same universe as the current trilogy. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:10, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::Agreed. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 14:29, 6 October 2010 (EDT)

Should we also put in a note that "dark of the moon" is real phrase and not completely made up? --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:35, 6 October 2010 (EDT)

Ahem. IT WAS THE DARK OF THE MOON ON THE SIXTH OF JUNE WITH A KENWORTH HAULIN' LOGS/ CABOVER PETE WITH A REEFER ON AND A JIMMY HAULIN HOGS/ WE WAS HEADED FOR BEAR ON I-1-OH ABOUT A MILE OUTTA SHAKEY TOWN/ I SAID "PIG PEN THIS HERE'S THE RUBBER DUCK, WE'RE ABOUT TO PUT THE HAMMER DOWN." -hx at work, this is all the caption you need.
:ARGH! I can't believe I forgot that! I can just see the "bout to put the hammer down" part as an Optimus Prime caption ("Convoy", don't you know. :)). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:49, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
::I agree with this comment. Also, now we have a title, is it time to add it to the left-hand navigation menu? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:16, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Save it for the Japanese release info. "Ironically enough, not a great big Convoy rockin' through the night." [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:30, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
I don't see any Amazon listings anymore, but the [http://www.transformersmovie.com Transformers movie website] is called "Transformers: Dark of the Moon". (Don't look at the logo, look at the title of the website in the web browser.) Should we lose the "the"? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:43, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
:At the same time, the domain they registered is "transformersthedarkofthemoonmovie.com", which has the leading "The" in it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:00, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
::"transformersdarkofthemoonmovie.com" is also registered by the same party. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:03, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Why would they register it with the "The" if "The" isn't in the title? Whereas I can see why they'd also register it without, because people might accidentally leave it out when typing the url (and also for brand protection). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:57, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Similar reasons apply for registering the name with a superfluous "the". "The dark of the moon" is a preexisting term, people might easily insert it by mistake. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:08, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::IDK, the title of a web page just doesn't seem like enough to me to move the page. The titles on Amazon all had "The" in them, which might have been added mistakenly by whoever added them there, or might not have been. I suspect we should wait for some sort of official unveiling, because if we move the page now, we may well just be moving it back later. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:13, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::According to the teaser trailer, at least in Latin America, the international title of the movie is '''Transformers 3''' (THANK GOD). Should we put it on the article?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 03:28, 1 January 2011 (EST)
:::::::Are you sure it's the international title, or is it just the title in your area? Either way, it could be added somewhere in there I'm sure. [[User:The Autobot Hero|Hero]] 00:15, 8 May 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Scratch that, the new trailer calls the movie "El lado oscuro de la Luna" (Dark side of the moon), at least the movie looks awesome.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 19:23, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

== Uh, Walky.... ==

How does "www.transformersdarksideofthemoon.com." confirm that "The Dark of the Moon" is the title? Or did you put in the "side" in that URL by mistake? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:56, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
: Yeah. Mistake. Durrr. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:02, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:: Fixed. I expect this slip-up to happen only 30,000 more times. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:03, 6 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Yeah, mainly I was asking on the off chance that the other things we've found had accidentally left out the "side". --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:07, 6 October 2010 (EDT)

== Accident ==

Does last month's stunt accident where an extra got critically injured belong on this page, and if yes, where?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 14:22, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
:I thought the top of this page said that the wiki does not care about news on the set. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 14:46, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
::This is '''obviously''' not the kind of news the top of the page is talking about. Yes, the accident and lawsuit should be addressed on the page for the movie. Where, I dunno. Probably its own section. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:58, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Maybe "Production", if it ever gets made. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:30, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
::::I thought we usually didn't do production sections though? What if it was placed in it's own section down at the bottom with the notes and trivia and such. [[User:The Autobot Hero|Hero]] 00:20, 8 May 2011 (EDT)

== Disambig? ==

What are we going to use as the disambiguation suffix for this movie? I used (TDOTM) for the Carly artilce I created, but I could see just (DOTM) instead, or perhaps something from out of left field -- [[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 23:04, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
:(TDOTM) would be the most consistent. But (TF3) would be cool. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:22, 7 October 2010 (EDT)
::The only other franchise I can find with an initial "the" is [[The Headmasters]], which has the disambiguation suffix (Headmasters). Going by that, I would say (DOTM). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:20, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Considering Hasbro applied for the trademark "Dark of the Moon" without "the", I'm favoring (DOTM) too.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:05, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
::::(TDOTM) is a horrible disambig. I prefer (DOTM). --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 08:11, 13 October 2010 (EDT)

== The Superfund Armored Truck as Sixshot and Rosenbaurer as Inferno ==

November-21=Michael Bay confirms the Superfund Armored Truck as Sixshot.
:Hi. Cite a source. Sign your posts. Thank you. Goodbye. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 08:22, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Should we add Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin? ==

Well, should we?

-ThiAthEhn
: And [[Walter Cronkite]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:56, 10 December 2010 (EST)

::Well, the question is, will they actually be ''in'' the film? This teaser feels very much like the teaser for the first movie, in that we may see only a little, or possibly even none, of the actual content of it in the film. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:57, 10 December 2010 (EST)

:::And we don't know if (though unlikely) they are main cast. And save their page for another day. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:00, 10 December 2010 (EST)
::::I dunno, I think all promotional stuff still counts as "fiction" under our mandate. While they shouldn't be on the main cast list, I wouldn't be opposed to making articles on them and making some mention of them on the article. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:16, 10 December 2010 (EST)
:::::And in any case, we already have a [[Neil Armstrong]] page, per [[Ghosts of Yesterday]]. So I'll ask my question here: how much do we want to put into that article? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 14:42, 10 December 2010 (EST)
::::::I'm tired of seeing useless perpetually incomplete pages for trivial as fuck foil characters that usually were only ''mentioned'' in the movie or even movie novelization in question and have no real story signifigance at all. I respectfully say nay to more character pages like this and I would recommend deleting such pages that are already created, such as the Mohammud page. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:14, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::Then that's really too friggin' bad, because ''that's what this wiki is for.'' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:28, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::You really want your wiki to go to hell, to run rampant with the constant mindless page creations of anonymous IP adresses? You made one of the qualifications to delete a page "We are not a dictonary," but now you want to contradict yourself. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:32, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::Uh, we've been making pages like this since the very beginning of the wiki back in 2006. At no point has this site ever succumbed to your insane scenario. So pardon me if my eyes roll so hard they pop out of my skull. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:36, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::What you said officially makes it okay to make pages like the pages made by anons from the start, so now you have put yourself in the situation where now a whole lot of anons who look around without editing will get that idea and tell all their friends about it and soon you have too many pages for Detour to put the speedy template on. Sure, in the past this has never happened, but now there is the possibility. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:39, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::Now that we're going to continue doing the exact same thing we've been doing for the past four years, suddenly it's all going to be different now and ruin us. Got it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:41, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::It's not that you've been doing the same thing all along, it's now you've said that doing what has been described now is alright and acceptable, and you seem to be ignoring/avoiding that. Besides, of course the consequences are not going to affect you immediately, so you shouldn't just assume that if the ramifications aren't immediate then there aren't any at all. Your 16-year-old level of sarcasm and quickness to attempt to avoid a situation is what makes people not like you. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:47, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::I'm not ignoring anything, because I shouldn't have to distinguish for you the differences between making a page for a guy featured heavily in a trailer for a blockbuster Transformers film and between making a page for "floor." The difference seems to be obvious to everyone else. Do you have any other recourse to people disagreeing with you that isn't calling them an X-year-old? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:58, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::::The reason I used the X-year-old argument is because that is what I usually only see here that warrants a recourse from me, what with the "Um, yes it does" and "pardon me if my eyes roll so hard they pop out of my skull" statements. I understand now that you have from the start always had a staff that can make the distinction between what is too little information and what isn't and make decisions based on that. I don't think that most people know what "too little information" is (including myself), so maybe that could be something you could put into the FAQ of the wiki for anons that want to be good editors but aren't and so people like me don't go anally retentive apeshit and get in heated arguments with the wiki's administrator. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 12:10, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::::When the sole basis of your argument is "tons of anons will make bad pages", it's kind of hard to do anything but roll one's eyes at it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::Anons will make useless pages regardless of policies. I truly doubt making a page about Buzz Aldrin is suddenly going to open the floodgates for pages about grass, the birds, the bees, the peanut butter jelly time banana and Zartan's male pattern baldness. Your apocalypse scenario is ridiculous to say the least. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:01, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::They exist in the Transformers universe. Why shouldn't we have pages for them? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:17, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::Saying something like, "What would Jesus do?" is not making them in-universe. Besides, the pages always stay shitty and are just bytes of worthless space-taking crap. What if the wiki made a whole page for every single obscure character that happened to be seen in a passing glance of the camera? The whole wiki would be have millions of pages of crap that nobody cares about. Besides, if somebody wanted to read about Buzz aldrin, they could just go to wikipedia. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:21, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::Um, yes it does. If someone mentions Jesus in Transformers, that means that Jesus is in the Transformers universe? That'd be like if there was a standalone story where someone mentions how Bumblebee is a great scout, but Bumblebee doesn't appear otherwise. Does that mean Bumblebee doesn't exist? And there's a difference between making an article for someone who has no name, personality, or role, and making an article for someone who has a name and has a role hinted at. (We wouldn't make an article for a generic with no dialogue who's just there in the background, but we WOULD make an article for Bumblebee since he was named and we know that he's a scout.) And what if someone was curious about what Buzz Aldrin did in the Transformers world? Wikipedia wouldn't have that. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:24, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::You know very fucking well what I am talking about, don't act like a ten-year-old. I do not mean that important characters fiction wise (as in appearing in more than one piece of fiction in one universe) shouldn't have pages, they do have pages that account what they are important in. I mean not have pages about characters like the [[Muhammad]] or [[Jesus]] page that have no significance whatsoever in any piece of fiction. If they were more important in another piece of fiction, then they could have pages. What I want is quality control that isn't headed by ten-year-olds or anal people. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 11:29, 14 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::But they do have significance. A character mentions them and gives some details. Small significance, but they exist. When I said "standalone", I was referring to a whole new universe, where we don't know if Bumblebee exists or not. Then, someone confirms he exists, so we make a page for him. How am I acting like a ten-year-old?
:::::::::::(I WILL admit there's a line. Remember "History vid Megatron", anyone?) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:34, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::I think someone needs a timeout. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:02, 14 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::I remember "history vid Megatron"! According to a history video in Animated, he was a Decepticon during Animated's Great War. He looked like he commanded at least a platoon or something. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:19, 14 December 2010 (EST)

== Astronomical/Apollo Errors in Trailer ==

The trailer seems to suggest that, after it landed, Apollo 11 passed around to the dark side of the moon, or out of radio range, or something. This is, of course, nonsense, since the moon doesn't rotate with respect to Earth. If the trailer counts as canon, do we want to start an errors section for this? [[User:JW|JW]] 14:59, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:I think it is canon. That was strange. That looked like a real clip from Walter Cronkite, but maybe it was spliced together from different reports. Or maybe it was actually from before the landing when they were still in orbit. They sort of undercut the impact of the radio silence bit when mission control was still able to communicate with them. Maybe it was Sector 7 technology? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:19, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:: My reading of the trailer was that the astronauts WALKED to the far side of the moon once the feed was cut, explored, and then returned all within 21 minutes. Which is just as ridiculous. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:::You could be right. I was thrown off by one image where they were right next to the lander when they were "dark on the rock". That was probably out of sequence. Then again, being a movie trailer, the whole thing may be various images and dialog thrown together without regard to sequence. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:34, 13 December 2010 (EST)
::::But ''did'' they go to the dark side? I took "dark on the rock" to mean that communications were nil, that they were "in the dark", as it were. A figurative phrase, not literal. After all - you can SEE the Earth in the sky behind the spaceship! That couldn't be the dark side! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:02, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Cronkite says "We now have had confirmation of loss of signal from Apollo 11. Apollo 11 is on the far side of the moon". - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:07, 13 December 2010 (EST)
::::::"Apollo 11" is the name of the mission, which involved the Columbia rocketship and the Lunar module that landed. The Columbia was in lunar orbit while Buzz and Neil were on the surface of the planet. The Columbia part of Apollo 11 definitely could have been on the far side of the moon, unless it, was, like, circling the exact circumference of the moon that we can see from Earth. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:13, 13 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Mind, the actual "dark side of the moon" where the Autobot spaceship had crashed sure had a lot of friggin' light about and plenty of crisp shadows. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:09, 13 December 2010 (EST)
::::::I tried to find out if the lander bounced signals off the ''Columbia'' but my Google skills failed me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:18, 13 December 2010 (EST)
::::::I'm pretty sure the whole "Dark of the Moon", "dark on the rock" thing is figurative, to both describe the mystery on the Moon and NASA's real reason for traveling there, rather than literally "the ''Ark'' crashed on the dark side of the moon, and the dark side of the moon is a short walk from Tranquility Base." [http://science.howstuffworks.com/lunar-landing2.htm This article] suggests that ''Columbia'' served as the communications link between ''Eagle'' and Earth. Wish I could find a better article or source, but my google-fu is not great. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 06:50, 22 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::Even taking that as figurative, the trailer shows the Earth close to the horizon, when it should be nearly directly overhead. It also appears to move between shots only a short time apart. [[User:JW|JW]] 06:55, 22 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::Yea, it doesn't look like an actual error, except the movie makers wanted the Earth in every shot (I don't blame them). But the trailer doesn't make it clear that the ''Columbia'' is a communications link or anything like that so it is confusing. If it wasn't on the far side of the Moon, I don't see how they could have kept it secret. Anyone with a big enough telescope would be able to see it, I would think. At least observatories. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:19, 22 December 2010 (EST)
The term "Dark side of the moon" was a misnomer even before Transformers got hold of it. The dark side of the moon refers to the side of the moon that always faces away from Earth. But it gets just as much sunlight as the near side. It should rightly be called the FAR side of the moon.[[Special:Contributions/180.176.116.4|180.176.116.4]] 23:45, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

== MEGATRON IN DARK OF THE MOON ==
I have been looking around the internet about Transformers 3, and everywhere says that Megatron is returning for Transformers 3 as a Mack Titan Tanker Truck, I know that Michael Bay hasen't released any news yet on any Decepticons apart from Shockwave, but if Hasbro didn't release the pictures of the Megatron tanker truck toy, how the hell did they get on the internet, even Leader Class Ironhide pictures are around. Does anyone think that megatron should be added to the Decepticons?
Thanks Plo Koon 1
:It's most likely a stolen prototype from a factory, and NO, Megatron '''will not be added until Hasbro or Michael Bay or some other official source says he's in'''. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:42, 27 December 2010 (EST)
:Kindly go away and never return. This is all you do, come here once a movie is in production and either add stolen info, or rant on talk pages about how we should add stolen info, and frankly I am sick of it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:13, 27 December 2010 (EST)
::Why don't you go look up some more information and get adding to the page instead of waiting for Michael Bay's and Hasbro's precious information. {{unsigned|Plo Koon 1}}
:::Because we only use OFFICIAL information. If it doesn't come from Hasbro, Bay or another official source, it ISN'T information as far as we are concerned.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:45, 27 December 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, that's a great idea, let's post every single thing anonymous people post on Wikipedia, that's the best way to do research. Or post about stolen toys, thieves are always the best source of info. And then we'll have to take it down, because it turns out to be wrong. Or get crap from Hasbro, because it's stolen. That'll work out great. This Wiki is interested in getting things ''right'', not ''first''. The policy and the reasons for it have been explained quite clearly. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 16:53, 27 December 2010 (EST)

== Ashton Kutcher ==

Just noticed, along with Ben Kingsley theres a spoof of the Heidi Montag audition by Ashton Kutcher. I can't put a link in though, as i have no idea how to.[[User:Burnout|Burnout]] 11:40, 20 January 2011 (EST)Burnout

Just paste it!—[[User:TOM|TOM]] 13:05, 23 January 2011 (EST)

== THE FIRST offical Images for DOTM Toys ==
Are these Officals right? http://www.asmzine.com/geekly-rewind/2011/01/28/toy-fair-uk-images-of-starscream-and-ironhide/ If so then its time to add these pics to Starscream and Ironhide Pages and make the DOTM Toyline Page well that its if anybody here considers these officals—[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 28 January 2011 (EST)
:Well, the article ''claims'' the pics are from Hasbro, but we better hold off until we're sure (as well as hold off on creating any 'MechTech' articles) - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:41, 28 January 2011 (EST)
::ASM would be the last site in the world to lie about that. They're official, and they were delivered to most every Transformers website. I wouldn't be surprised if we got them too, but I'm not [[User:Monzo|Monzo]], so I couldn't tell you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:48, 28 January 2011 (EST)
:::Yes, we received the images from Hasbro as well. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:23, 29 January 2011 (EST)
::::Thank You, Jesus, we finally got toy pics that aren't stolen prototypes! :D - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 14:19, 29 January 2011 (EST)

== Ratchet and Ironhide ==
i think we should add ratchet and Ironhide in the cast and character list sicne the 2 were in the trailer and the trailer like an Offical Source—[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]

== Laserbeak (?) ==

A bird-robot was also in the trailer.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 19:51, 9 February 2011 (EST)
:Looked more dragon-y than bird-y to me. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:03, 9 February 2011 (EST)
::Either way, the wiki isn't much of a place for speculation so whoever it is is moot until we get an official toy listing or promotional render. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:07, 9 February 2011 (EST)
:::Indeed, Detour. It could be Laserbeak, or Buzzsaw, or something new. Could it be Laserbeak? Most likely, yes. However, like Detour said, TFwiki.net doesn't deal with "most likely". Be patient, folks; we'll find out soon enough (the movie will be out in five months and we might find out officially before then). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:40, 9 February 2011 (EST)
::::Whatever. If the toy we've seen resembling it is the same character, it must have two modes: condor mode and dragon mode. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 19:35, 13 March 2011 (EST)

The same character (or an identical one) in the game is confirmed as Laserbeak. Is that sufficient enough to list him as a film character?
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 2:58 PM, 27 March 2011 A.D.
:Confirmed where? By whom? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:45, 27 March 2011 (EDT)
::Well, it WAS on the page for the DOTM game, but it isn't anymore, so I'm guessing that was incorrect.
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 5:04 PM, 27 March 2011 A.D.
:::I removed it from there as there was no source listed. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:10, 27 March 2011 (EDT)

== New guys? ==

Just a question. From the Superbowl trailer you can see that there are some "already dead" guys. I mean Barricade°(here it isnt really certain), Long Haul and (desert) Brawl. Should these be added into the list of appeared characters, since they were'''officially revealed''' via trailer? --[[Special:Contributions/194.228.147.9|194.228.147.9]] 21:12, 11 February 2011 (EST)
:No. Just because they look like the old characters doesn't mean they are. More there's no reason to list nameless characters we know nothing about. Be patient. Plenty of time after the movie is out. We're in no rush.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 21:19, 11 February 2011 (EST)
::(That was not Barricade, but Sideways. Well, *a* Sideways.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:01, 20 February 2011 (EST)
:You recognized Long Haul and Brawl? You mean like how [[Grindor (ROTF)|we recognized Blackout in ROTF?]] --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 12:04, 20 February 2011 (EST)
:: Because of Hasbro's action figures, we knew that there was a Blackout lookalike named "Grindor" from the start. Until Hasbro reveals some alternate names for these guys, I think we can feel safe keeping them under the umbrella of their known names, like we did and do with ROTF's Constructicons. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:22, 20 February 2011 (EST)
::: Long Haul and Brawl ''do'' have same-body-type buddies from the toyline--Payload and Tankor respectively. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 12:33, 20 February 2011 (EST)
:::: Yes, but all of the green Long Hauls are accounted for on Long Haul's page. This is just another green Long Haul, and we should treat it as such until we know differently. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:42, 20 February 2011 (EST)

== Crankcase, Ratchet, etc ==

Dudes, if we have a trailer and a Toy Fair, and we see vehicle modes that we know belong to movie characters, and we see those vehicle modes that belong to movie characters ''transform into the robot modes of said movie characters'' I really think we need to get beyond the "we pretend we don't know anything" schtick. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:59, 20 February 2011 (EST)
: Also, the whole "what if this is not the real Crankcase and the real Crankcase is elsewhere" is an argument that ''predicates'' on the idea that the "real" Crankcase is in the film. And if there IS no "real" Crankcase in the film, then this "generic" BECOMES the "real" Crankcase. Either way, he's in the damn film. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:07, 20 February 2011 (EST)
:: FurtherFURTHERmore, the fact that the counterargument has gone from "it's just an SUV" to "it's just a robot" to "it's just a robot mode that looks like Crankcase's" as this goes on just feels like this is a counterargument based not on facts but on obstinate reluctance. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:12, 20 February 2011 (EST)
::: And to put a final nail in the coffin, there were several [[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]]s in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', but they were all accounted for on Long Haul's page as Long Haul. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:16, 20 February 2011 (EST)
::: I think if this passes based on this argument, then everyone in charge of this site better remember this when others are putting up information using the same reasoning. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 15:23, 20 February 2011 (EST)

== New Chevy Beat/Spark 'Bots (?) ==

Nelson said that a Chevy Spark spotted on set was not Skids, but a ''new'' character.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 20:11, 25 February 2011 (EST)
:We'll get to it when '''''official information comes out'''''. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:30, 25 February 2011 (EST)
::So, Nelson isn't a trustable source?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 17:19, 4 March 2011 (EST)
:::There's literally not enough information to do anything with. What do you want, a page for ''Unnamed Chevy Spark character who might just be one of the Twins, we aren't sure yet''? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:46, 4 March 2011 (EST)
::::Those Sparks were seen in trailer, but I still don't believe non-appearance of the Twins being misinformation. Characters were said to be cut off from the film, but the vehicles not. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 9:24, 2 May 2011 (EST)
:::::If their vehicles appear, the characters are in the film. Please don't revert again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:31, 2 May 2011 (EDT)
:::::CAJH, considering how much Bay lied about Megatron not coming back in ROTF, and his (and Nelson's) claims about the Twins not coming back in DOTM (despite all evidence to the contrary), we're better off including them based upon what we can actually see rather than they tell us. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:33, 2 May 2011 (EDT)

== Is Mirage really in DOTM??? ==

I saw that Mirage was added to the cast list (as of 11:09 pm EST on April 8th, 2011). Besides the Speed Star toy of Mirage, is there any actual evidence that the red Ferrari in DOTM is Mirage? I think the addition is a bit premature (I was about to undo the addition, but I thought I would play it safe). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 23:13, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:We're not exactly sure yet, so leaving him off for now is probably for the best. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:28, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

==Brains==

Some believe that Brains might become the Einstein-Mercedes-bot, but I don't think so. Bay confirmed Brains being small in film too. What would you think that Einstein-bot be, if he's not Brains? --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 12:53, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
:More than likely just an early head design for Wheeljack. But we'll know for sure when the movie's out or more promotional renders are revealed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:00, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Brains is in the "Rising Storm" comic prequel. He's a tiny hatchling guy that Bumblebee and Sam escort. Wheeljack is a separate dude who looks like Wheeljack. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:23, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
:::And if Wheeljack ever is that Mercedes-bot, it's very understandable that he would be different in film. Shockwave and Sentinel were too different in comic adaptations. And do not forget Mirage, though it's not officially confirmed, if he is the Ferrari-bot or not. And Brains we'll see in film looks definitely different than Brains we saw in comics.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:28, 19 April 2011 (EDT)

== Darkside Moon ==

I am a fan of these two titles because they have that "crazy" factor to them. That said...

I notice there's exactly one dot in those there katakana. I don't suppose it's actually "Darkside Moon", eh? You see "Darkside" here and there, really. [[Special:Contributions/174.111.86.22|174.111.86.22]] 09:53, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
:Maybe. could be. Anyone else think it should be changed to "Darkside Moon" as opposed to the "Dark Side Moon" title that I originally wrote? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:04, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

== Trailer ==

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-trailer-172021/ It also seems that Simmons lost a leg, and there are many Crankcases--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 19:46, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
:I think he broke his leg, but anyway people can see the video for themselves so we don't need to mention stuff in it here. If you want to discuss the content of the video, you should take it to a forum. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:48, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

== Washington Post thing ==

That video is from 2010. Why did you date it April 30, 2011? Also, it's probably too plot point spoilery for us to use. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:36, 30 April 2011 (EDT)

== Avon sweepstakes ==

Looks like Avon's having a contest to meet Patrick Dempsey at the premier of DotM. Link [http://www.avon.com/PatrickDempsey here]. Worth mentioning on the page? (Started last week if you want to add this to the timeline) -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 09:13, 3 May 2011 (EDT)
:I personally don't think it should be added to the ''film'' article of the DOTM franchise, but this is unique in that Avon is having this contest without (as far as I know) having any merchandise tie-ins. Perhaps it could be noted on the main DOTM franchise article page as well as on the Patrick Demsey article. Either way, this is note-worthy. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:28, 3 May 2011 (EDT)

== Hatchet is he,in the film? ==

Is it just me or should we add him because somebody add the "more info will pop up in July,1,2011" box-thing,just sayin' - [[User:Dinodigger97|Dinodigger97]],May-4-2011
:If you mean Ratchet, he is already in the cast list. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:33, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
::Actually, there's a new Decepticon named [[Hatchet]], so I think that's who he meant. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:05, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
:::D'oh! Sorry, hard to keep up with all these new dudes. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:30, 4 May 2011 (EDT)
::::To answer your question Dinodigger97, no, we don't know. I'm not sure why Hatchet's article has a fiction section already, as there has been no indication that he is in the movie. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:34, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

== Amazon comic spoilers ==

Could we please not get all excited about the spoiled comic adaptation pages on Amazon and rush off to the wiki? I think CAJH even cited Alientraveller's edits with a flickr account (with, I presume, pages of the comic). I wasn't about to spoil myself to look, so I just reverted everything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:33, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
:For that matter, the comic adaptations of the movie are usually done from earlier versions of the script, and aren't guaranteed to reflect the movie itself. If we ''must'' document every little nugget, those spoilers would more properly go on the comic adaptation's page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:42, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
::Sorry guys, I concur as Amazon.com has apparently removed those pages (and TFW followed suit). Just a shame I still can't find a source to confirm the name of Shockwave's pet, or Dempsey's character for this page. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 11:45, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
:::... did you just mention a spoiler? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:22, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
::::Maybe the comic adaptation has little differences with the film. But some elements like rest of the characters can't be different. But ok then. Let's wait at least until the release date. --[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 19:43, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
:::::Why couldn't the characters be different? Characters might appear in fight scenes in the comic with names and personalities yet be represented in the film only by an indistinguishable mass of duplicates of someone else. Thus, the [[Dread (subgroup)|Dreads]] in the movie might all be [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]] doppelgangers but [[Hatchet]] might appear in the comic. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:57, 5 May 2011 (EDT)
::::::Anyway, my main point for the revert was that the pages of the comics were apparently chock full of spoilers that were not supposed to be revealed yet (hence sites like TFW having to remove their news post). And even if Hasbro/Bay/Paramount didn't care (except they do), the wiki has a policy of avoiding overt spoilers for fiction until the release date. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:12, 5 May 2011 (EDT)

== Dreads ==

Not trying to start a discussion with anybody, just pointing out: We already saw that there's a Black Dodge Charger, who's NOT Barricade, also we've seen that Hatchet is a Dread, and he has three other chances of appearing --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 14:19, 11 May 2011 (EDT)
:What? Seen what? Why are you pointing this out here? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:34, 14 May 2011 (EDT)
::If you have something against this post, I have no problem in erasing it --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 18:06, 22 May 2011 (EDT)

== Just wondering... ==

The 2007 TF film article used quotes from the 1986 movie, should I replace those with one of the prequels of Star Wars. (or, to be more specific, Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith) --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 16:27, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
: Do not alter the captions on the 2007 film article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:29, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

Or maybe other stuff from Ep 4. --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 16:30, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

At Walky: OK, I ''will'' [Not alter the quotes].

But still, quite stupid to quote the 1986 movie. --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 16:34, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
: I've got an idea. Call our efforts stupid one more time and you can have a quite stupid ban. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:39, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

== June 28 release? ==

I followed the link given for the release date, and that dateline site says it's coming out June 2'''9''', not 28. Is there something somewhere that suggests it's coming out on Tuesday instead? [[User:Magaroja|Magaroja]] 18:02, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

== Capone's AICN Review ==
Any thoughts regarding the first review of the movie?[[User:Ryantherebel|Ryantherebel]] 16:02, 23 May 2011 (EDT)
-I think the review said the twins are in there, is it a reliable source to put in the confirmed?? (how do I sign posts?)
:Regardless, the director of the film is a much more reliable source. And you sign your posts by typing "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>". (You may wish to review the [[Help:Contents|Help pages]].)
::-[[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]]

== Foreign names ==
Serbian name for Dark of the Moon is: Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon, the only one with the "accurate" translation yet. Put it on the page in the Foreign names.[[User:DarkCon|DarkCon]] 12:57, 1 June 2011 (EDT)
:That's the translation, but what is it in actual Serbian?--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 07:29, 1 June 2011 (EDT)
:Transformers 3: Tama Meseca--[[User:DarkCon|DarkCon]] 20:04, 1 June 2011 (EDT)

== Mirage ==
Should the whole mirage is not the ferrari be on this article? [[Special:Contributions/68.197.232.80|68.197.232.80]] 15:48, 2 June 2011 (EDT)

== Renaming Wheeljack and Mirage ==
now we know the names they will use the film, should we add some info of the change on theri pages or Rename their Pages?
:If by "know", you mean "the same guy we didn't believe when he said it the first time just kept saying it", sure. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:12, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
::These sound like nicknames given to them by crew members who don't know the real names and don't really care. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:47, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
:::Okay. but if the name changes turns out to be true Are you guys going to Consider them Seperate Characters Or you are Still Going to consider them the Same bots, depsite the Name change (like you guys did with Simmons Parents Pages)
::::See [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl, also known as Devastator]]. And we eventually merged the Simmonses. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:07, 12 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::that means yes :P

== Barricade ==
[http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh199/eagc7/More/dotm20barricade.jpg] Confirmation that he is in the film?
Hope so -[[User:Kaine852|Kaine852]] 05:41, 17 June 2011 (EDT)
:This time around, I'd say yes! - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:15 AM, 17 June 2011 A.D.
::Considering the reused character models which happened both last movie (Grindor, the new Buffalo MPV 'Con) and in this movie (Sideways), I really wouldn't jump the gun so quickly on this. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:53, 17 June 2011 (EDT)
:::Ah, fair point. Yet those were instances of characters who had both died previously. Barricade has clearly been shown [[Alliance issue 1|to]] [[Transformers Comic issue 2.1|be]] [[The Veiled Threat|still]] [[Tales of the Fallen issue 1|alive]]. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 11:44, 17 June 2011 (EDT)
::::I'm not saying it's 100% totally not him, I'm saying they've reused character models in the past, so don't jump the gun and let's wait and see. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:47, 17 June 2011 (EDT)

== Carly ==
Discussion moved to [[Talk:Carly Miller|Carly's talkpage]]. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:16, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

== Superfund Armored Truck ==

So we still don't know the identity of the Superfund Armored Truck, Michael Bay, you're doing a great job -_- --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 09:27, 25 June 2011 (EDT)

== Twins, Dino and Que ==
one guy in the tfw2005 site who saw the film says the twins appear for one Single scene in the film, the scene where they are seen in the trailer entering the NEST hangar, does this means they are TRULY in the film but for one scene link [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/423302-autocons-dotm-q-thread-spoilers.html#post6254202], Plus this guy confirmed WHeelajck and Dino are truly named Dino and Que[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/423302-autocons-dotm-q-thread-spoilers-3.html#post6254472] {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:At this point it's less than a day until the movie's out. There's not really much hurry to add new information when everyone will be able to see it, and the whole article will be restructured anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:34, 28 June 2011 (EDT)
:: Skids and Mudflap are in the film and should be listed as such. Bay only ever said that they don't PERFORM in the movie, which is true. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:51, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
McFeely coming down on the side of "Que" (god, I hate typing that) makes me question whether I'm the one who's wrong about "Q" being in the credits. Does anyone at all have my back on this independently? -[[User:LV|LV]] 10:08, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
:Walky says he rewatched it and it's definitely "Que" in the credits. So against what I went on the rampage with earlier, these pages need to be changed back to the worst name in Transformers history. Sigh. (Yes, even worse than Rodimus Prime.) -[[User:LV|LV]] 08:39, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
::Oh lord... I'd been told it was "Q" in the credits, which is why I'd changed the latest additions... Eugh. I guess they didn't want to make the James Bond similarities ''too'' blatant, but still, eugh. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:50, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

== Silverbolt ==

So...he's just simply out of the movie and no James Avery in the end? --[[User:Jolt17|Jolt17]] 11:01, 29 June 2011

:Seem so. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 10:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== It's Out ==

So when somebody takes a break from watching the best movie over and over again can you please add the info to it.

==Long Haul and Brawl in Dark of the Moon==
I haven't seen the movie yet but when the Super Bowl trailer was released Decepticons resembling Long Haul and Brawl were spotted, do they appear in the final film as I haven't seen it yet? [[User:DOTM123|DOTM123]] 12:08, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
: Brawl was replaced by Long Haul, if I recall correctly. This is going by trailer footage, though. The tan Brawl wasn't in the later ones, with Long Haul replacing him in the wide shot so that it better matched who Prime was rampaging through in the closeup. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:37, 30 June 2011 (EDT)
::On the subject of background 'Cons, I think I recall seeing one in Chicago with massive forearms that it walked on... Am I imagining things, and if not, was it a new model? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]]

Here's what I'mma say on the subject of these generics.
*Brawl and Sideways - they're dead. Can't be them.
*Long Haul and Scrapper - Constructicons share body types. There are multiple iterations of each, and the DOTM appearance of these two should just be on the existing pages. Frankly, I've thought for a while the Constructicon pages could stand a bit of reworking to be about the body-types, rather than the individuals where applicable.
*Scalpel - he didn't die in ROTF. Sure, he died in the comic adaptation, but then, Barricade died in the TF1 adaptation, and Dino died instead of Que in the DOTM adaptation. So there's no saying with ''any'' certainty that Scalpel is dead, and one of those little guys could absolutely be him. He's turned up alive in Titan's post-ROTF fiction. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:47, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
:About bodytypes vs individuals: I've said that same thing about Swindle, Longarm, Dreadwing and co. from the first movie for a while but it seems to go unnoticed... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 09:05, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

==GI Joe/Transformers reference?==
So, I just got back from seeing it, and all I'm wondering: Sam's actions against Starscream, would they fall under the Transformers References section as references to Snake-Eyes own actions against Starscream in [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|GI Joe vs. the Transformers #5]]? Unlike a lot of other things people ask are references, this seems pretty blatant. [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 05:46, 1 July 2011 (EDT)
:Psht, you're silly. (I really wish this was an intentional reference, but all things considered, I really doubt those who worked on the script and shooting have read that story. Could be a ref, but not confirmed.) [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 18:26, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

==Obscure Hard-To-See Decepticons==
I've heard around that throughout the movie, a number of Decepticons are shown with vehicle modes and all, not just drones. For example, there's a 'Con that turns into a military Stryker with a robot-mode that looks like the Cloverfield monster, a random polic car (not Barricade, all white) and one that turns into a garbage truck, but it's robot looks like Long Haul. Did anyone else catch these Cannonfodder/Deadguy Decepticons? If so, do you have any pictures?

== Silverbolt ==

Am I the only one who saw what might be Silverbolt lurking in the background when the Autobots are being exiled? --[[Special:Contributions/89.17.232.104|89.17.232.104]] 05:21, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
:In all likelihood, yes. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:04, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

== Skids and Mudflap in the cast list? ==

I don't think the Twins belong in the cast list. They were deliberately dropped from the film, their one appearance basically an oversight. They effectively weren't there at all, in-story. That you can see them briefly should be noted, of course, but not in a "Main Cast" list. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 10:52, 5 July 2011 (EDT)--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 10:52, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
: I feel every named Autobot or Decepticon who appears should be in the cast list. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:57, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

== The Wreckers a Star Trek refrence? ==
Do you think it sould be noted that the Wreckers being engineers with scottish accents is similiar to Scotty, the scottish engineer from the Starship Enterprise? May even be delibirate, considering the other amount of Star Trek refrences in this movie. --[[User:Captain-lelouch|Captain-lelouch]] 1:02, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)

2011-07-02T05:15:31Z

Captain-lelouch:

Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)

2011-06-24T20:06:21Z

Captain-lelouch:

{{Nav-dotm-game}}

'''''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: The Game''''' was released on [[June 14]] [[2011]] for Xbox 360 and PS3 platforms. The game is a prequel to the film ''[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''. Unlike ''[[Transformers The Game (console)|Transformers The Game]]'' and ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', ''Dark of the Moon'' will feature a single campaign mode, rather than separate Autobot and Decepticon campaigns. The game will feature a multiplayer mode but not much has been said on that subject. The game was developed by [[High Moon Studios]], fresh off the success of ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)| War for Cybertron]]''.

==Plot==

===Chapter One===
Three years after the events of Revenge of the Fallen, humanity believes the Decepticons have fled Earth. However, Optimus Prime knows better and is constantly searching for Megatron and his forces. Bumblebee is sent to upload a virus into Soundwave's network system so that the Autobots can track down all remaining Decepticons on Earth. Bumblebee succeeds but is discovered by a Decepticon party who flee in an attempt to alert their leader Megatron. Bumblebee tracks the Decepticons down to a small village where he destroys all the devices trying to contact Megatron. Waves of Decepticons land in the city hoping to destroy him, but Optimus and Sideswipe show up and help Bumblebee fight off the attackers.

===Chapter Two===
The Decepticons attack the city of Detroit and Ratchet is ordered to help civilians evacuate while Ironhide goes off to wipe out the attackers in the city. Ironhide makes his way into the city's main construction zone where he receives transmission that Ratchet has been captured by Mixmaster. Ironhide battles his way to find Mixmaster who has knocked out and injured Ratchet. Ironhide's normal weapons are not strong enough to pierce Mixmaster's shields, so he uses his "Heavy Iron" ability to cause a large metal platform to land on Mixmaster trapping him underground. Realizing that Mixmaster would probably try to escape them, Ratchet reveals he placed a tracker on the Decepticon when he was captured. Ironhide continues his search for Mixmaster and receives the "Heavy Iron 2.0" upgrade from Wheeljack which can destroy Mixmaster's shields. Mixmaster is powerless against Ironhide's new weapon, defeated, and is killed by a fatal headshot from Ironhide.

===Chapter Three===
Sideswipe is captured by Decepticon forces and Mirage is sent to find him. Along the way, Starscream tries to destroy Mirage with proximity mines and grabs the Autobot and throws him through a bridge into a deep ravine down below, believing he has killed the Autobot. Mirage's internal systems have been extensively damaged disabling his weapons and transformation system. He is only able to use his Active Camoflauge to sneak past patrols of Decepticons. He discovers the entrance to an ancient Mayan temple which has Decepticon markings all over it suggesting the Mayans built their temples on top of Decepticon technology. The NEST team sends weapons and repairs for Mirage deep within the jungle where he eventually meets up with Bumblebee. The two Autobots make their way through the ruins and battle a Decepticon Enforcer on top of a temple. After dispatching of the enemy, the two discover Sideswipe and hold off enemy forces until NEST reinforcements are able to arrive to help ward off the attack. The trio of Autobots make their way deeper into the ruins where Starscream is trying to launch a Decepticon device into space. The Autobots are unable to prevent the launch and Starscream retreats.

===Chapter Four===
Soundwave lands on earth and takes on an alternate form of a SUV. He discovers NEST has a secret facility hidden in a volcano. Soundwave fights his wave through the jungle and into the volcano. He arrives at the entrance of the NEST base and is unable to enter, so he send Laserbeak to sneak inside. Laserbeak goes throughout the base scanning information regarding the human coverup of the Lunar Landing and activates the front doors for Soundwave to enter. Soundwave is seemingly caught in a laser grid prison but even so, the Decepticon is able to destroy all forces coming in to capture him. Soundwave discovers and destroys all 3 Volcanic Stabilizer devices and the Coolant system and escapes the base and volcano before it explodes.

===Chapter Five===
The Decepticons learn that Autobots are about to transport their new MechTech weapons system to Optimus Prime and Starscream goes off the retrieve it. Starscream chases Air Raid through a canyon only to discover the Aerialbots are escaping onboard Stratosphere with the MechTech systems onboard. Starscream is able to injure Stratosphere, forcing the Aerialbots to deploy and try to destroy Starscream. However, he proves to be too strong for them and continues to shoot down all of Stratosphere's engines. Starscream boards the large Autobot and takes some of the MechTech weapons before using the rest to destroy Stratosphere from the inside.

===Chapter Six===
Starscream returns to Megatron hoping to please his master with news that they can use the Autobots' technology against them. Megatron, however, is furious as he knows the Autobots have placed tracking devices in all their weapons leading them to Megatron's lair where he has been recuperating. Megatron rallies his Decepticon forces to hold off the Autobot attack while he makes his way through the tunnels to Shockwave's cryochamber. Megatron scans a truck rig and gains a new transformation form to travel quicker through the tunnels. As he nears Shockwave's chamber, he encounters Warpath who Megatron easily finishes off. Megatron disables the intense cryo system that has kept Shockwave frozen for so many year and waits for his assassin to awake. Optimus arrives intending to stop Megatron from finishing his plan and activates an energon shield that Megatron cannot penetrate. Soundwave informs Megatron that the spray from the cryo generators can weaken the shields. Megatron destroys the generators in the room until the shields on Optimus completely wear off. He knocks Optimus down a large hole in the ground and escapes.

===Chapter Seven===
Optimus awakens at the bottom of the cryo chamber to discover what Megatron has been after this whole time: to awaken his best soldier, Shockwave. Optimus knowing how powerful Shockwave truly is tries to find a way to reactivate the cryo system, but the Deception assassin has already been thawing too long and reawakens. Optimus and Shockwave battle and he discovers Shockwave's weakness are the energy cells on his back which power his hand blaster cannon. After dealing enough damage to Shockwave, the assassin retreats to the throne he was frozen on only for it to be revealed as Shockwave's pet, the Driller. The Driller tries to destroy Optimus with its tentacles but Optimus is able to disable them with his shoulder-mounted rockets. The Driller seems to retreat in defeat and Shockwave remains to try to finish off Optimus. Waves of Autobots land from above to help their leader in destroying Shockwave. Just as Optimus is about to deal the final blow to kill Shockwave, the Driller reappears and protects its master from the attack. It then retreats into the tunnels with its master.

===Chapter Eight===
The Autobots have won this battle but know the war with the Decepticons still wages on. Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream and Shockwave meet in South Africa where Megatron tells Shockwave to head to Chernobyl to search for a certain ancient Cybertronian artifact. Megatron gloats that "Operation Pillar" is underway and that the Autobots and humans have no idea what is in store for them, setting up the events of the 3rd movie.

==Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] ([[Dave Wittenberg]])
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] (Fred Tatasciore) <ref>Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive, Downloadable content character</ref>
*[[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]]) <ref>GameStop preorder Multiplayer exclusive, Downloadable content character</ref>
*[[Aerialbot (ROTF)|Aerialbots]]
**[[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]] ([[Christian Lanz]])
**[[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]] ([[Rick Wasserman]])
**[[Silverbolt (ROTF)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Stratosphere]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Warpath (Movie)|Warpath]] ([[Dave Fennoy]])
|c2=
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]])
*[[Laserbeak (DOTM)|Laserbeak]]
*[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] ([[Dave Boat]])
*[[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]
*[[Driller]]
*[[Crowbar |Crowbar]]
*[[Hatchet]]
|c3=
*[[Reynolds]] ([[Nolan North]])
|nonumbering=true
}}

<ref>[http://www.trueachievements.com/TRANSFORMERS-3-xbox-360.htm TRANSFORMERS 3 Achievements & Guides]</ref>

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Website]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WojGd2_wrCg&feature=player_embedded Gamespot trailer]

[[Category:Dark of the Moon media]]
[[Category:Video games]]

Dark of the Moon (video games)

2011-06-24T20:05:42Z

Captain-lelouch:

{{Nav-dotm-game}}
'''''Transformers: Dark of the Moon''''' will be published on various platforms by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]] on [[June 14]], [[2011]]. Following the success of ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]'', [[High Moon Studios]] are developing the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, while [[Behaviour Interactive]] is working on the Wii and handheld games. The story takes place two years before the movie, and gameplay will utilize [[Stealth Force]].
==Plot==
Three years after the events of Revenge of the Fallen, humanity believes the Decepticons have fled Earth. However, Optimus Prime knows better and is constantly searching for Megatron and his forces. Bumblebee is sent to upload a virus into Soundwave's network system so that the Autobots can track down all remaining Decepticons on Earth. Bumblebee succeeds but is discovered by a Decepticon party who flee in an attempt to alert their leader Megatron. Bumblebee tracks the Decepticons down to a small village where he destroys all the devices trying to contact Megatron. Waves of Decepticons land in the city hoping to destroy him, but Optimus and Sideswipe show up and help Bumblebee fight off the attackers.

The Decepticons attack the city of Detroit and Ratchet is ordered to help civilians evacuate while Ironhide goes off to wipe out the attackers in the city. Ironhide makes his way into the city's main construction zone where he receives transmission that Ratchet has been captured by Mixmaster. Ironhide battles his way to find Mixmaster who has knocked out and injured Ratchet. Ironhide's normal weapons are not strong enough to pierce Mixmaster's shields, so he uses his "Heavy Iron" ability to cause a large metal platform to land on Mixmaster trapping him underground. Realizing that Mixmaster would probably try to escape them, Ratchet reveals he placed a tracker on the Decepticon when he was captured. Ironhide continues his search for Mixmaster and receives the "Heavy Iron 2.0" upgrade from Wheeljack which can destroy Mixmaster's shields. Mixmaster is powerless against Ironhide's new weapon, defeated, and is killed by a fatal headshot from Ironhide.

Sideswipe is captured by Decepticon forces and Mirage is sent to find him. Along the way, Starscream tries to destroy Mirage with proximity mines and grabs the Autobot and throws him through a bridge into a deep ravine down below, believing he has killed the Autobot. Mirage's internal systems have been extensively damaged disabling his weapons and transformation system. He is only able to use his Active Camoflauge to sneak past patrols of Decepticons. He discovers the entrance to an ancient Mayan temple which has Decepticon markings all over it suggesting the Mayans built their temples on top of Decepticon technology. The NEST team sends weapons and repairs for Mirage deep within the jungle where he eventually meets up with Bumblebee. The two Autobots make their way through the ruins and battle a Decepticon Enforcer on top of a temple. After dispatching of the enemy, the two discover Sideswipe and hold off enemy forces until NEST reinforcements are able to arrive to help ward off the attack. The trio of Autobots make their way deeper into the ruins where Starscream is trying to launch a Decepticon device into space. The Autobots are unable to prevent the launch and Starscream retreats.

Soundwave lands on earth and takes on an alternate form of a SUV. He discovers NEST has a secret facility hidden in a volcano. Soundwave fights his wave through the jungle and into the volcano. He arrives at the entrance of the NEST base and is unable to enter, so he send Laserbeak to sneak inside. Laserbeak goes throughout the base scanning information regarding the human coverup of the Lunar Landing and activates the front doors for Soundwave to enter. Soundwave is seemingly caught in a laser grid prison but even so, the Decepticon is able to destroy all forces coming in to capture him. Soundwave discovers and destroys all 3 Volcanic Stabilizer devices and the Coolant system and escapes the base and volcano before it explodes.

The Decepticons learn that Autobots are about to transport their new MechTech weapons system to Optimus Prime and Starscream goes off the retrieve it. Starscream chases Air Raid through a canyon only to discover the Aerialbots are escaping onboard Stratosphere with the MechTech systems onboard. Starscream is able to injure Stratosphere, forcing the Aerialbots to deploy and try to destroy Starscream. However, he proves to be too strong for them and continues to shoot down all of Stratosphere's engines. Starscream boards the large Autobot and takes some of the MechTech weapons before using the rest to destroy Stratosphere from the inside.

Starscream returns to Megatron hoping to please his master with news that they can use the Autobots' technology against them. Megatron, however, is furious as he knows the Autobots have placed tracking devices in all their weapons leading them to Megatron's lair where he has been recuperating. Megatron rallies his Decepticon forces to hold off the Autobot attack while he makes his way through the tunnels to Shockwave's cryochamber. Megatron scans a truck rig and gains a new transformation form to travel quicker through the tunnels. As he nears Shockwave's chamber, he encounters Warpath who Megatron easily finishes off. Megatron disables the intense cryo system that has kept Shockwave frozen for so many year and waits for his assassin to awake. Optimus arrives intending to stop Megatron from finishing his plan and activates an energon shield that Megatron cannot penetrate. Soundwave informs Megatron that the spray from the cryo generators can weaken the shields. Megatron destroys the generators in the room until the shields on Optimus completely wear off. He knocks Optimus down a large hole in the ground and escapes.

Optimus awakens at the bottom of the cryo chamber to discover what Megatron has been after this whole time: to awaken his best soldier, Shockwave. Optimus knowing how powerful Shockwave truly is tries to find a way to reactivate the cryo system, but the Deception assassin has already been thawing too long and reawakens. Optimus and Shockwave battle and he discovers Shockwave's weakness are the energy cells on his back which power his hand blaster cannon. After dealing enough damage to Shockwave, the assassin retreats to the throne he was frozen on only for it to be revealed as Shockwave's pet, the Driller. The Driller tries to destroy Optimus with its tentacles but Optimus is able to disable them with his shoulder-mounted rockets. The Driller seems to retreat in defeat and Shockwave remains to try to finish off Optimus. Waves of Autobots land from above to help their leader in destroying Shockwave. Just as Optimus is about to deal the final blow to kill Shockwave, the Driller reappears and protects its master from the attack. It then retreats into the tunnels with its master.

The Autobots have won this battle but know the war with the Decepticons still wages on. Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream and Shockwave meet in South Africa where Megatron tells Shockwave to head to Chernobyl to search for a certain ancient Cybertronian artifact. Megatron gloats that "Operation Pillar" is underway and that the Autobots and humans have no idea what is in store for them, setting up the events of the 3rd movie
==Versions==
*[[Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)|Xbox 360/Playstation 3 game]]
:The standard version of the game developed by High Moon Studios, and the one most publicized, was made available for two out of three of the main consoles. Unlike previous ''Transformers'' games, there is no Windows PC version.

*[[Dark of the Moon (Wii/3DS)|Wii/3DS game]]
:The Wii and 3DS versions, titled ''Transformers: Dark of the Moon - Stealth Force Edition'', were handled by Behaviour Interactive, and were developed as vehicle combat games with no ability to transform.

*[[Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons|Nintendo DS games]]
:Also developed by Behaviour Interactive. Just like the previous games, the DS version is available in Autobot and Decepticon incarnations.

==Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]]<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/new-transformers-dark-of-the-moon-video-game-images-and-information-171958/ New Transformers: Dark Of The Moon Video Game Images And Information]</ref> ([[Dave Wittenberg]])
*[[Aerialbot (ROTF)|Aerialbots]]
**[[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]] ([[Rick Wasserman]])
**[[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]] ([[Christian Lanz]])
**[[Silverbolt (ROTF)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Stratosphere]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Warpath (Movie)|Warpath]] ([[Dave Fennoy]])
*[[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] ([[Jamie Alcroft]])
|c2=
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]])
*[[Laserbeak (DOTM)|Laserbeak]]
*[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] ([[Dave Boat]])
*[[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]
*[[Combaticon Warrior |Combaticon Warrior]]
*[[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]
*[[Crowbar]]
*[[Driller]]
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Retailer pre-order exclusives==
*All retailers: The Nintendo DS Autobot and Decepticon versions will come with [[Speed Stars]] Stealth Force [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] respectively. The Wii version will come with a Stealth Force [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Mini Changers|Mini Changers Bumblebee]] toy.
*Amazon.com: [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] multiplayer skin for [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MXP600?ie=UTF8&tag=tralivactmovb-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B004MXP600 Xbox 360] and [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004MXQX66?ie=UTF8&tag=tralivactmovb-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B004MXQX66 Sony Playstation 3], as well as $10USD credit on Amazon.com.
*Best Buy: Free movie ticket upgrade to 3D.
*Gamestop: [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] multiplayer skin for [http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/transformers-dark-of-the-moon/90280 Xbox 360] and [http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/games/transformers-dark-of-the-moon/90281 Sony Playstation 3].
*Sears/[[Kmart]]: Limited edition ''Dark of the Moon'' comic book.
*[[Target]]: Different Bumblebee skin Nintendo 3DS.
*[[Toys"R"Us]]: Different Bumblebee skin for DS Autobots and different Lockdown skin for DS Decepticons.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Website]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WojGd2_wrCg&feature=player_embedded Gamespot trailer]
*[http://www.superherohype.com/features/articles/165127-preview-of-activisions-transformers-dark-of-the-moon-video-game Superhero Hype! preview]

[[Category:Dark of the Moon media]]
[[Category:Video games]]

Transformers: Dark of the Moon (Xbox 360/PS3)

2011-06-24T20:04:40Z

Captain-lelouch: Incorrect character information

{{Nav-dotm-game}}

'''''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: The Game''''' was released on [[June 14]] [[2011]] for Xbox 360 and PS3 platforms. The game is a prequel to the film ''[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''. Unlike ''[[Transformers The Game (console)|Transformers The Game]]'' and ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', ''Dark of the Moon'' will feature a single campaign mode, rather than separate Autobot and Decepticon campaigns. The game will feature a multiplayer mode but not much has been said on that subject. The game was developed by [[High Moon Studios]], fresh off the success of ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)| War for Cybertron]]''.

==Plot==

===Chapter One===
Three years after the events of Revenge of the Fallen, humanity believes the Decepticons have fled Earth. However, Optimus Prime knows better and is constantly searching for Megatron and his forces. Bumblebee is sent to upload a virus into Soundwave's network system so that the Autobots can track down all remaining Decepticons on Earth. Bumblebee succeeds but is discovered by a Decepticon party who flee in an attempt to alert their leader Megatron. Bumblebee tracks the Decepticons down to a small village where he destroys all the devices trying to contact Megatron. Waves of Decepticons land in the city hoping to destroy him, but Optimus and Sideswipe show up and help Bumblebee fight off the attackers.

===Chapter Two===
The Decepticons attack the city of Detroit and Ratchet is ordered to help civilians evacuate while Ironhide goes off to wipe out the attackers in the city. Ironhide makes his way into the city's main construction zone where he receives transmission that Ratchet has been captured by Mixmaster. Ironhide battles his way to find Mixmaster who has knocked out and injured Ratchet. Ironhide's normal weapons are not strong enough to pierce Mixmaster's shields, so he uses his "Heavy Iron" ability to cause a large metal platform to land on Mixmaster trapping him underground. Realizing that Mixmaster would probably try to escape them, Ratchet reveals he placed a tracker on the Decepticon when he was captured. Ironhide continues his search for Mixmaster and receives the "Heavy Iron 2.0" upgrade from Wheeljack which can destroy Mixmaster's shields. Mixmaster is powerless against Ironhide's new weapon, defeated, and is killed by a fatal headshot from Ironhide.

===Chapter Three===
Sideswipe is captured by Decepticon forces and Mirage is sent to find him. Along the way, Starscream tries to destroy Mirage with proximity mines and grabs the Autobot and throws him through a bridge into a deep ravine down below, believing he has killed the Autobot. Mirage's internal systems have been extensively damaged disabling his weapons and transformation system. He is only able to use his Active Camoflauge to sneak past patrols of Decepticons. He discovers the entrance to an ancient Mayan temple which has Decepticon markings all over it suggesting the Mayans built their temples on top of Decepticon technology. The NEST team sends weapons and repairs for Mirage deep within the jungle where he eventually meets up with Bumblebee. The two Autobots make their way through the ruins and battle a Decepticon Enforcer on top of a temple. After dispatching of the enemy, the two discover Sideswipe and hold off enemy forces until NEST reinforcements are able to arrive to help ward off the attack. The trio of Autobots make their way deeper into the ruins where Starscream is trying to launch a Decepticon device into space. The Autobots are unable to prevent the launch and Starscream retreats.

===Chapter Four===
Soundwave lands on earth and takes on an alternate form of a SUV. He discovers NEST has a secret facility hidden in a volcano. Soundwave fights his wave through the jungle and into the volcano. He arrives at the entrance of the NEST base and is unable to enter, so he send Laserbeak to sneak inside. Laserbeak goes throughout the base scanning information regarding the human coverup of the Lunar Landing and activates the front doors for Soundwave to enter. Soundwave is seemingly caught in a laser grid prison but even so, the Decepticon is able to destroy all forces coming in to capture him. Soundwave discovers and destroys all 3 Volcanic Stabilizer devices and the Coolant system and escapes the base and volcano before it explodes.

===Chapter Five===
The Decepticons learn that Autobots are about to transport their new MechTech weapons system to Optimus Prime and Starscream goes off the retrieve it. Starscream chases Air Raid through a canyon only to discover the Aerialbots are escaping onboard Stratosphere with the MechTech systems onboard. Starscream is able to injure Stratosphere, forcing the Aerialbots to deploy and try to destroy Starscream. However, he proves to be too strong for them and continues to shoot down all of Stratosphere's engines. Starscream boards the large Autobot and takes some of the MechTech weapons before using the rest to destroy Stratosphere from the inside.

===Chapter Six===
Starscream returns to Megatron hoping to please his master with news that they can use the Autobots' technology against them. Megatron, however, is furious as he knows the Autobots have placed tracking devices in all their weapons leading them to Megatron's lair where he has been recuperating. Megatron rallies his Decepticon forces to hold off the Autobot attack while he makes his way through the tunnels to Shockwave's cryochamber. Megatron scans a truck rig and gains a new transformation form to travel quicker through the tunnels. As he nears Shockwave's chamber, he encounters Warpath who Megatron easily finishes off. Megatron disables the intense cryo system that has kept Shockwave frozen for so many year and waits for his assassin to awake. Optimus arrives intending to stop Megatron from finishing his plan and activates an energon shield that Megatron cannot penetrate. Soundwave informs Megatron that the spray from the cryo generators can weaken the shields. Megatron destroys the generators in the room until the shields on Optimus completely wear off. He knocks Optimus down a large hole in the ground and escapes.

===Chapter Seven===
Optimus awakens at the bottom of the cryo chamber to discover what Megatron has been after this whole time: to awaken his best soldier, Shockwave. Optimus knowing how powerful Shockwave truly is tries to find a way to reactivate the cryo system, but the Deception assassin has already been thawing too long and reawakens. Optimus and Shockwave battle and he discovers Shockwave's weakness are the energy cells on his back which power his hand blaster cannon. After dealing enough damage to Shockwave, the assassin retreats to the throne he was frozen on only for it to be revealed as Shockwave's pet, the Driller. The Driller tries to destroy Optimus with its tentacles but Optimus is able to disable them with his shoulder-mounted rockets. The Driller seems to retreat in defeat and Shockwave remains to try to finish off Optimus. Waves of Autobots land from above to help their leader in destroying Shockwave. Just as Optimus is about to deal the final blow to kill Shockwave, the Driller reappears and protects its master from the attack. It then retreats into the tunnels with its master.

===Chapter Eight===
The Autobots have won this battle but know the war with the Decepticons still wages on. Megatron, Soundwave, Starscream and Shockwave meet in South Africa where Megatron tells Shockwave to head to Chernobyl to search for a certain ancient Cybertronian artifact. Megatron gloats that "Operation Pillar" is underway and that the Autobots and humans have no idea what is in store for them, setting up the events of the 3rd movie.

==Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] ([[Dave Wittenberg]])
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] (Fred Tatasciore) <ref>Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive, Downloadable content character</ref>
*[[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] (Travis Willingham) <ref>GameStop preorder Multiplayer exclusive, Downloadable content character</ref>
*[[Aerialbot (ROTF)|Aerialbots]]
**[[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]] ([[Christian Lanz]])
**[[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]] ([[Rick Wasserman]])
**[[Silverbolt (ROTF)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Stratosphere]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Warpath (Movie)|Warpath]] ([[Dave Fennoy]])
|c2=
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]])
*[[Laserbeak (DOTM)|Laserbeak]]
*[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] ([[Dave Boat]])
*[[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]
*[[Driller]]
*[[Crowbar |Crowbar]]
*[[Hatchet]]
|c3=
*[[Reynolds]] ([[Nolan North]])
|nonumbering=true
}}

<ref>[http://www.trueachievements.com/TRANSFORMERS-3-xbox-360.htm TRANSFORMERS 3 Achievements & Guides]</ref>

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Website]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WojGd2_wrCg&feature=player_embedded Gamespot trailer]

[[Category:Dark of the Moon media]]
[[Category:Video games]]