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		<title>User:Caswin</title>
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		<updated>2015-09-17T19:14:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: Chikkah chikkahh!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Caswin&#039;&#039;&#039; is a casual &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fan... and come what may, his name has appeared in red for too long.&lt;br /&gt;
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Forward all my mail to Cas Warner.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Caswin&amp;diff=930354</id>
		<title>User talk:Caswin</title>
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		<updated>2015-01-12T21:57:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* &amp;quot;It matters.&amp;quot; */ Needing to do this doesn&amp;#039;t help my case.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Go-Bots ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Challenge of the Go-Bots&amp;quot; is not considered to be a Transformers continuity family. The section you edited was referring to the &#039;&#039;Playskool&#039;&#039; Go-Bots and their accompanying fiction. This line &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; intended for children five and under.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 04:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hence my immediate &amp;quot;oops, that was a mistake&amp;quot; reaction and immediately trying to turn it back.  Apparently, [[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] is faster on the draw. [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 04:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[End]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for the episode synopsis.  In the future, you may find it easier to use an existing episode for a template when creating a new one.  For example, I used [[Space]] in my revision of [[End]].  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re certainly welcome, and thanks for the template.  I actually worked off of [[Cybertron (episode)]] - the &amp;quot;default&amp;quot; one seemed a little complex to start off with, but I&#039;ll be using it from now on. [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 15:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::...Ah, thanks for calling [[Cybertron (episode)]] to my attention . . .  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yah, the default template has a lot of stuff in it, but it&#039;s allowed to leave most of it to be done later.  You can also stick an &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{inprogress}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; template at the top of the article, if you plan to be working on it for a while, and don&#039;t want other people to mess with it until you&#039;re done.  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That [[Cybertron (episode)]] really needs to be rewritten or deleted, since it&#039;s pretty lazy. Oh, JW, most of our current episode articles place the Stats section (with the credits and character box) before the Quotes section. I don&#039;t believe we ever resolved the discussion about this, so it&#039;s probably best if you don&#039;t reformat articles with that arrangement in the future, since it creates an inconsistentcy with past and very recent articles. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{preview bastard}}&lt;br /&gt;
My mistake.  I shouldn&#039;t have been editing that late.  Given that I was writing about how a joke rested on a faulty premise and didn&#039;t add anything to the article, while at the same time explaining the joke itself because I thought another user was under the impression that I didn&#039;t get it, that was a bad time to write while tired.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The end result isn&#039;t as easy to read as I&#039;d like it to be, people are still coming away thinking that I was complaining because I didn&#039;t get it... and both can probably be traced back to staying up tweaking it into oblivion back in April.  I do have a history of being a &amp;quot;serial tweaker&amp;quot;, but it won&#039;t happen again. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:42, 15 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;It matters.&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A few years ago, I tried to make an edit to [[Reno Wilson]].&lt;br /&gt;
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It didn&#039;t end well.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;d let it go, but it made me look ridiculous and &#039;&#039;it&#039;s still there.&#039;&#039; (That&#039;s my pre-emptive response to &amp;quot;Dude... &#039;&#039;LET IT GO.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So before I break out a new account as a contributing member of casual &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fandom... I wanted to leave this here for anyone who finds that old discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a joke in there, but the logic is convoluted and doesn&#039;t make any sense at a first pass if you&#039;re not familiar with the controversy.  Claiming that he was horribly offensive to himself to his own surprise doesn&#039;t suggest &amp;quot;there was a controversy&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;there shouldn&#039;t have been a controversy&amp;quot; so much as &amp;quot;he found his own portrayal offensive&amp;quot; or something to that effect, which isn&#039;t the case.  My reading of wiki policy backs me up on the idea that readibility comes before humor.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So I deleted it with an explanation (as a red-linked name; that might have something to do with it), got reverted without an explanation multiple times, was told by an editor that they &amp;quot;disagreed&amp;quot; when I had said that it wasn&#039;t immediately obvious what it meant, got loudly dismissed as being the only person in the world to initially read &amp;quot;to his own surprise, he was offensive to himself&amp;quot; at face value and generally got repelled from any effort to make it more readable for the sake of a bad joke.&lt;br /&gt;
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Or has anyone reading this actually laughed at that?&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, at this stage, the only thing I &#039;&#039;don&#039;t&#039;&#039; understand is why a minor change to the phrasing of a two-sentence note attracted so much attention... unless it was a knee-jerk reaction to seeing a red-linked name delete something for any reason and everything after that was general principle.  I could have understood that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyways, &amp;quot;Caswin&amp;quot; is done here.  Still glad I got to make the other contributions I did -- with a particular emphasis on snagging the end of a series with &amp;quot;[[&#039;Til all are one]].&amp;quot; - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] ([[User talk:Caswin|talk]]) 16:52, 12 January 2015 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Caswin&amp;diff=930352</id>
		<title>User talk:Caswin</title>
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		<updated>2015-01-12T21:52:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* &amp;quot;It matters.&amp;quot; */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Go-Bots ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Challenge of the Go-Bots&amp;quot; is not considered to be a Transformers continuity family. The section you edited was referring to the &#039;&#039;Playskool&#039;&#039; Go-Bots and their accompanying fiction. This line &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; intended for children five and under.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 04:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hence my immediate &amp;quot;oops, that was a mistake&amp;quot; reaction and immediately trying to turn it back.  Apparently, [[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] is faster on the draw. [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 04:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==[[End]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for the episode synopsis.  In the future, you may find it easier to use an existing episode for a template when creating a new one.  For example, I used [[Space]] in my revision of [[End]].  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re certainly welcome, and thanks for the template.  I actually worked off of [[Cybertron (episode)]] - the &amp;quot;default&amp;quot; one seemed a little complex to start off with, but I&#039;ll be using it from now on. [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 15:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::...Ah, thanks for calling [[Cybertron (episode)]] to my attention . . .  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yah, the default template has a lot of stuff in it, but it&#039;s allowed to leave most of it to be done later.  You can also stick an &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{inprogress}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; template at the top of the article, if you plan to be working on it for a while, and don&#039;t want other people to mess with it until you&#039;re done.  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That [[Cybertron (episode)]] really needs to be rewritten or deleted, since it&#039;s pretty lazy. Oh, JW, most of our current episode articles place the Stats section (with the credits and character box) before the Quotes section. I don&#039;t believe we ever resolved the discussion about this, so it&#039;s probably best if you don&#039;t reformat articles with that arrangement in the future, since it creates an inconsistentcy with past and very recent articles. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{preview bastard}}&lt;br /&gt;
My mistake.  I shouldn&#039;t have been editing that late.  Given that I was writing about how a joke rested on a faulty premise and didn&#039;t add anything to the article, while at the same time explaining the joke itself because I thought another user was under the impression that I didn&#039;t get it, that was a bad time to write while tired.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The end result isn&#039;t as easy to read as I&#039;d like it to be, people are still coming away thinking that I was complaining because I didn&#039;t get it... and both can probably be traced back to staying up tweaking it into oblivion back in April.  I do have a history of being a &amp;quot;serial tweaker&amp;quot;, but it won&#039;t happen again. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:42, 15 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;It matters.&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A few years ago, I tried to make an edit to [[Reno Wilson]].&lt;br /&gt;
It didn&#039;t end well.&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;d let it go, but it made me look ridiculous and &#039;&#039;it&#039;s still there.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
So before I break out a new account as a contributing member of casual &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fandom... I wanted to leave this here for anyone who finds that old discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a joke in there, but the logic is convoluted and doesn&#039;t make any sense at a first pass if you&#039;re not familiar with the controversy.  Claiming that he was horribly offensive to himself to his own surprise doesn&#039;t suggest &amp;quot;there was a controversy&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;there shouldn&#039;t have been a controversy&amp;quot; so much as &amp;quot;he found his own portrayal offensive&amp;quot; or something to that effect, which isn&#039;t the case.  My reading of wiki policy backs me up on the idea that readibility comes before humor.&lt;br /&gt;
So I deleted it with an explanation (as a red-linked name; that might have something to do with it), got reverted without an explanation multiple times, was told by an editor that they &amp;quot;disagreed&amp;quot; when I had said that it wasn&#039;t immediately obvious what it meant, got loudly dismissed as being the only person in the world to initially read &amp;quot;to his own surprise, he was offensive to himself&amp;quot; at face value and generally got repelled from any effort to make it more readable for the sake of a bad joke.&lt;br /&gt;
Or has anyone reading this actually laughed at that?&lt;br /&gt;
Anyway, at this stage, the only thing I &#039;&#039;don&#039;t&#039;&#039; understand is why a minor change to the phrasing of a two-sentence note attracted so much attention... unless it was a knee-jerk reaction to seeing a red-linked name delete something for any reason and everything after that was general principle.  I could have understood that.&lt;br /&gt;
Anyways, &amp;quot;Caswin&amp;quot; is done here.  Still glad I got to make the other contributions I did -- with a particular emphasis on snagging the end of a series with &amp;quot;[[&#039;til all are one]].&amp;quot; - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] ([[User talk:Caswin|talk]]) 16:52, 12 January 2015 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=718830</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-25T17:52:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: Clarifying one thing in my last post that may not have been clear... two weeks after the fact, I know.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure why one person&#039;s anecdotal evidence is trumping everyone else&#039;s.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow you.  Who&#039;s using anecdotal evidence? (It isn&#039;t me, is it?  The short version is, the note is inaccurate, even as a joke, and the linked article doesn&#039;t actually back it up.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:41, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:...so, if there aren&#039;t any objections, can we take it out?  Or am I missing something? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:49, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In full awareness that I&#039;ve already been warned for over-tweaking my earlier comments -- this wasn&#039;t my first time; I&#039;ll do better in the future -- I&#039;m afraid of being instantly reverted again.  Unless I&#039;ve missed something important, the note in question is factually wrong, difficult to read, based on a faulty premise, and (with apologies to the original editor) not very funny.  Can I safely delete it? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:32, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;d say everyone else disagrees, so you&#039;re outvoted.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But... &#039;&#039;nobody&#039;&#039; has disagreed.  I was confused at first, asked for an explanation, and it came out that the note is altogether wrong.  After that, when I suggested deleting it, nobody objected.  I&#039;ve &#039;&#039;edited&#039;&#039; it to actually describe what happened and it was reverted again.  What&#039;s the problem? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 16:17, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I disagree. There. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:15, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The note was there for nearly 3 years, with several prominent editors seeing fit to leave it as they made other changes. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:36, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::That as may be, I&#039;ve explained what&#039;s wrong with it, and established that (among other things) it&#039;s misleading, which wiki policy specifically says should go.  This can&#039;t be the first long-standing piece of an article that&#039;s been edited much later. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:39, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The note makes sense to EVERYONE WHO&#039;S EVER READ IT EXCEPT YOU. It was explained to you by abates, an explanation that you did not seem to understand and your response to said explanation MADE NO SENSE TO ANYONE OTHER THAN YOU. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:46, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I understood abates&#039; explanation.  If you didn&#039;t understand my response, then I apologize.  Put more briefly, it&#039;s based on a premise that the article doesn&#039;t actually back up.  Even if it&#039;s comprehensible, it&#039;s incorrect. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:52, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Are you Reno Wilson&#039;s agent or something? You&#039;re inordinately interested in getting this one thing changed.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 18:32, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, but the thought had crossed my mind.  I know what it usually means when one person is at odds with three or four others.  I&#039;m surprised it got this far to begin with.  It&#039;s an edit to a point of interest, and to my knowledge, I wasn&#039;t breaking any rules or being disruptive, so while I got the &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot; just fine, I was still puzzled about why my edits were reverted without any explanation.  Is there an unwritten &amp;quot;If it&#039;s not broke, don&#039;t fix it&amp;quot; rule? (Of course, my argument is that it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; broke, and editing it would be an improvement.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 18:55, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Caswin&amp;diff=716301</id>
		<title>User talk:Caswin</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Caswin&amp;diff=716301"/>
		<updated>2012-05-16T02:42:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Go-Bots ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Challenge of the Go-Bots&amp;quot; is not considered to be a Transformers continuity family. The section you edited was referring to the &#039;&#039;Playskool&#039;&#039; Go-Bots and their accompanying fiction. This line &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; intended for children five and under.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 04:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hence my immediate &amp;quot;oops, that was a mistake&amp;quot; reaction and immediately trying to turn it back.  Apparently, [[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] is faster on the draw. [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 04:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[End]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for the episode synopsis.  In the future, you may find it easier to use an existing episode for a template when creating a new one.  For example, I used [[Space]] in my revision of [[End]].  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re certainly welcome, and thanks for the template.  I actually worked off of [[Cybertron (episode)]] - the &amp;quot;default&amp;quot; one seemed a little complex to start off with, but I&#039;ll be using it from now on. [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 15:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::...Ah, thanks for calling [[Cybertron (episode)]] to my attention . . .  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yah, the default template has a lot of stuff in it, but it&#039;s allowed to leave most of it to be done later.  You can also stick an &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{inprogress}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; template at the top of the article, if you plan to be working on it for a while, and don&#039;t want other people to mess with it until you&#039;re done.  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That [[Cybertron (episode)]] really needs to be rewritten or deleted, since it&#039;s pretty lazy. Oh, JW, most of our current episode articles place the Stats section (with the credits and character box) before the Quotes section. I don&#039;t believe we ever resolved the discussion about this, so it&#039;s probably best if you don&#039;t reformat articles with that arrangement in the future, since it creates an inconsistentcy with past and very recent articles. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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My mistake.  I shouldn&#039;t have been editing that late.  Given that I was writing about how a joke rested on a faulty premise and didn&#039;t add anything to the article, while at the same time explaining the joke itself because I thought another user was under the impression that I didn&#039;t get it, that was a bad time to write while tired.&lt;br /&gt;
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The end result isn&#039;t as easy to read as I&#039;d like it to be, people are still coming away thinking that I was complaining because I didn&#039;t get it... and both can probably be traced back to staying up tweaking it into oblivion back in April.  I do have a history of being a &amp;quot;serial tweaker&amp;quot;, but it won&#039;t happen again. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:42, 15 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User:Caswin&amp;diff=716270</id>
		<title>User:Caswin</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-15T23:31:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Caswin&#039;&#039;&#039; is a casual &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fan... and come what may, his name has appeared in red for too long.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User:Caswin&amp;diff=716261</id>
		<title>User:Caswin</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-15T23:13:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Caswin&#039;&#039; is a casual &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fan... and his name has been red for too long.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User:Caswin&amp;diff=716260</id>
		<title>User:Caswin</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-15T23:12:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: New page: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Caswin&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a casual &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Transformers&amp;#039;&amp;#039; fan... and that link has been red for too long.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Caswin&#039;&#039; is a casual &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fan... and that link has been red for too long.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715783</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-13T22:55:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure why one person&#039;s anecdotal evidence is trumping everyone else&#039;s.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow you.  Who&#039;s using anecdotal evidence? (It isn&#039;t me, is it?  The short version is, the note is inaccurate, even as a joke, and the linked article doesn&#039;t actually back it up.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:41, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:...so, if there aren&#039;t any objections, can we take it out?  Or am I missing something? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:49, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In full awareness that I&#039;ve already been warned for over-tweaking my earlier comments -- this wasn&#039;t my first time; I&#039;ll do better in the future -- I&#039;m afraid of being instantly reverted again.  Unless I&#039;ve missed something important, the note in question is factually wrong, difficult to read, based on a faulty premise, and (with apologies to the original editor) not very funny.  Can I safely delete it? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:32, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;d say everyone else disagrees, so you&#039;re outvoted.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But... &#039;&#039;nobody&#039;&#039; has disagreed.  I was confused at first, asked for an explanation, and it came out that the note is altogether wrong.  After that, when I suggested deleting it, nobody objected.  I&#039;ve &#039;&#039;edited&#039;&#039; it to actually describe what happened and it was reverted again.  What&#039;s the problem? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 16:17, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I disagree. There. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:15, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The note was there for nearly 3 years, with several prominent editors seeing fit to leave it as they made other changes. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:36, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::That as may be, I&#039;ve explained what&#039;s wrong with it, and established that (among other things) it&#039;s misleading, which wiki policy specifically says should go.  This can&#039;t be the first long-standing piece of an article that&#039;s been edited much later. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:39, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The note makes sense to EVERYONE WHO&#039;S EVER READ IT EXCEPT YOU. It was explained to you by abates, an explanation that you did not seem to understand and your response to said explanation MADE NO SENSE TO ANYONE OTHER THAN YOU. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:46, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I understood abates&#039; explanation.  If you didn&#039;t understand my response, then I apologize.  Put more briefly, it&#039;s based on a premise that the article doesn&#039;t actually back up.  Even if it&#039;s comprehensible, it&#039;s incorrect. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:52, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Are you Reno Wilson&#039;s agent or something? You&#039;re inordinately interested in getting this one thing changed.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 18:32, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, but the thought had crossed my mind.  I know what it usually means when one person is at odds with three or four others.  I&#039;m surprised it got this far to begin with.  It&#039;s an edit to a point of interest, and to my knowledge, I wasn&#039;t breaking any rules or being disruptive.  Is there an unwritten &amp;quot;If it&#039;s not broke, don&#039;t fix it&amp;quot; rule? (Of course, my argument is that it &#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039; broke, and editing it would be an improvement.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 18:55, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ItsWalky&amp;diff=715754</id>
		<title>User talk:ItsWalky</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-13T22:12:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Reno Wilson */&lt;/p&gt;
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==Things to say to you==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ttoc.GIF|right|thumb|We approve this message.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Just some thing I&#039;ve been wanting to say to David...&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, you&#039;re a monumental asshole. You have an ego the size of a small planet and it&#039;s irritating watching you act like an important SOB when you&#039;re basically just a nobody.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, your webcomics aren&#039;t funny. They&#039;re boring tripe that makes Penny Arcade look good(and believe me, Penny Arcade is garbage). Cyanide and Happiness is a funny webcomic, yours is not. Your &amp;quot;jokes&amp;quot; are painful, about like watching Michael Richards yell the n-word as a routine. You don&#039;t draw a comic, you draw an opinionated blog. I&#039;m not sure which name suits your crap better, &amp;quot;ShitPacked&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;ShortDicked&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your liberalism and your love of Indiana get on my nerves. You jab at Mallard Filmore? Yeah, one shitty comic making fun of another shitty comic. Or are you just pissed that his gets in newspapers while you&#039;re JUST a webcomic? As to Indiana, I live here, and if it were up to me, the state would be walled off and none of the freaks living there allowed to interact with the rest of the planet. The state is about 3 decades behind the times. But something tells me even you know this otherwise you&#039;d still live here. I sure as hell do not live here by choice and as soon as I can, I&#039;m moving far away from this joke of a state. &lt;br /&gt;
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And your brand loyalty is typical fandom crap. You have Aaron Archer&#039;s rod so far down your throat it&#039;s unreal. And Aryan fucktard Michael Bay&#039;s rod has apparently joined it. I&#039;d say soemthing abotu Don Murphy but he was born without one. Actually, I can say something- he&#039;s Kevin &amp;quot;unfunny asshole&amp;quot; Smith with more body fat. Hasbro didn&#039;t give the film to a competent director, just a cheap one. And neither Speilberg or ILM have done anything useful in years. Give WETA, or even Tom Savini a chance and we wouldn&#039;t be getting Bionicle bots. You&#039;re afraid to not like a Hasbro product. No wonder they don&#039;t have to go out of the way to please the &amp;quot;fans&amp;quot;- you&#039;ll accept it no matter what. But hey, you personally have been sucking off incompetent British bonehead Simon Furman and his shitty stories for years. There are no gods in Transformers. Unicron was built by a monkey, little man. Furman is dog shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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And go figure this TF wiki is a joke full of misinformation, insults or outright lies- you&#039;re a mod here. You&#039;re never right. You&#039;re more of an incorrect pompous jerkoff than Defunct is. Right, ban me from editing, as if it would somehow matter, any info you don&#039;t agree with is pulled. You only have friends because people feel sorry for you. Me, I have no need. People are a commodity to be used and their wants only get in the way of what I&#039;m out for. Use them and drop them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Who am I? Go look who added a note about you on Encyclopedia Dramatica&#039;s Allspark page if you&#039;re not too lazy. As well as past AS, Kalidor, FIRRIB and Hooks entries(the hooks entry especially true). Oh, and just info on white people in general and that idiotic Nintendo Wii. I&#039;m not making it that easy for you.&lt;br /&gt;
: Is it my birthday?  This stuff &#039;&#039;feeds&#039;&#039; me.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Duuuuude. Walky may be a dick, but I still &#039;&#039;like&#039;&#039; him for some inexplicable reason. You, on the other hand, are just one sore drama queen.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: This is some of the most funny stuff I&#039;ve seen in a while. Comedy PLATINUM. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Bwa ha ha ha ha.  Priceless.  I think someone needs to get off the internets for a few minutes. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wait, you mean I didn&#039;t get drunk and write this?  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 05:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I wish lame puns happened to me. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do I get the feeling that guy has been permanently banned?[[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 15:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, an Encyclopedia Dramatica troll. No need to be so harsh on Walky. I, too, like the Baybots, and, I happen to like Bionicle. Also, his Webcomic is one of my favorites. So, if you have nothing nice to say, never ever EVER come back here.--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 16:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==BANNED==&lt;br /&gt;
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What the hell did I do to warrant a ban, exactly? As far as I&#039;m aware, I don&#039;t even think I broke any rules, and if I did, an official warning would be appropriate. I received no such warning. I was not here for trolling and you know that - you use that bullshit excuse to get people to ignore arguments you can&#039;t handle. But you, personally, who made this decision, know I&#039;m not a troll.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is fucking low. I had little enough respect for you down to your ranting against the fanbase, Willis, but this is a whole new level of buggery. If you&#039;re going to use your comic to rant against and discredit people you don&#039;t like, the least you can do is suck it up when people rant at you back, and not act like a control-freak child.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really don&#039;t think you&#039;re aware of your own actions anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do the words [[Wikipedia:WP:NPA|no personal attacks]] mean anything to you? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Do the words &amp;quot;warning before ban&amp;quot; mean anything to you? Rulemongering doesn&#039;t justify a decision anyway, since Walky is one of the people making the rules. There were plenty of personal attacks leveled at me, but I did not report them officially.&lt;br /&gt;
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::I really find it hard to believe that you think it&#039;s completely on a rational level of discourse to claim that the comic strip I draw is about child pornography.   If I&#039;m not mistaken about your identity, you&#039;ve been banned from almost every single Transformers web board you&#039;ve had an acquaintance with, and I&#039;m only doing this place a favor by getting rid of you.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: That&#039;s not an excuse. I will openly admit I HAVE been banned from several forums, but only because I repeatedly opposed the staff on each and every one of them; and with good cause, they all have roughly the same problem. People bully others either into liking the movie or to agree with the kind of views you promote - and since nobody can directly attack or discredit anyone, these people(and you are) are left to their methods.&lt;br /&gt;
::: For your current decision to be validated, the admins of those boards, boards which are influenced in turn by your anti-fan attitude, would have to be near 100% correct in their decisions, and those decisions would have to occur within a context that would map exactly onto here. Any rational moderator does not base their decisions so much off performance on other boards, especially when it&#039;s not even a messageboard they&#039;re operating. Two different media. I have openly said I despise all active Transformers boards for their level of authoritarianism, yet level of tolerance towards the pushing of certain viewpoints.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Not to mention that you&#039;re still operating under the fallacy of Appeal to Majority - that alone means I shouldn&#039;t really even have to counter you.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: And don&#039;t even use the &amp;quot;CHILD PORNOGRAPHY&amp;quot; thing as an excuse. Again, any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban, I personally reversed that edit even though it was obviously intended to be a joke as anyone reading this knows what pile&#039;o&#039;bile already is. You have no justification for what you did, but your ego is too big to realise you can actually do wrong with your power. You&#039;ll never admit it, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if some part of you is pissed that I defeated some of your ramblings, whether they were directly written by you or encouraged by you, it&#039;s still the kind of guff you normally blew, and I managed to defeat it. You, and the mods of the big sites will always have your ban buttons - but you will NEVER be able to justify your actions to me. That&#039;s how I know that I&#039;m in the right, at least in situations like this - solidly backed justification is almost always absent.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Personal attacks + deleting comments in response to you = banno  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: P.S. Sign your posts.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: I have never intentionally deleted comments in response to me. I just moved one recently as it was in the middle of a paragraph of text. Not to mention that happened after you banned my original IP. Personal attacks alone are not grounds enough for a ban, especially when you&#039;re doing an awful, awful lot to be mercilessly torn into. &lt;br /&gt;
Need I point out that once again, you are unable to defend yourself properly? When does the &amp;quot;You&#039;re insane?&amp;quot; come? Ganging up of all your little friends since a majority always means you&#039;re right?&lt;br /&gt;
Do you even realise what a fascist shithead you sound like? Just because you&#039;re an admin of a place doesn&#039;t give you a free pass to be a dick with it. There&#039;s a difference between what you can do and what you should do that you don&#039;t seem to have learned yet. [[User:67.159.44.88|67.159.44.88]]&lt;br /&gt;
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TRUTH****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111twelve  FUCKING FASCIST PIGCOP NAZI WIKIPEDO &#039;&#039;&#039;ASSHOLE&#039;&#039;&#039;  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: My gosh, now that I have seen someone mock the notion, it MUST be untrue. Please, where can I learn these 1337 debating skills?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Dude, I&#039;ve been banned from twice as many forums as you, guaranfuckingteed, but they still let me post here because I&#039;m not as goddamn retarded as you are.  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: And can you demonstrate exactly how I&#039;m more retarded than you? Or are you just, Walky style, dropping weighted terms to discredit someone&#039;s point of view without even trying?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::1. Hoop doesn&#039;t delete other people&#039;s comments on talk pages. 2. He actually signs his posts, which you&#039;ve been asked to do many times, but haven&#039;t caught on. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: I didn&#039;t delete anything. If I did, it was an accident because someone posted right in the middle of text it wasn&#039;t meant to be in the middle of. Not signing my posts doesn&#039;t make me retarded since it&#039;s blatant when I&#039;m saying something. --[[User:67.159.44.88]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually - come to think of it, you make fun of the idea that anyone running a site can be Nazi, yet you still mention you got banned from many forums. Does that perhaps mean that you genuinely got banned for being an asshole and not opposing the staff/local clique like I did?&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:Not true, some things are auto-ban.  I don&#039;t think you &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; any of them, but I&#039;m just saying.&lt;br /&gt;
:Dude- you got an expedited ban because you showed no signs of contrition, argued every point, used personal insults, refused to sign your posts even when &#039;&#039;&#039;repeatedly asked to&#039;&#039;&#039; (I had to go back into history and dig out which incoherent chunks of text where yours, because the posts weren&#039;t hierarchied properly so the debate was really hard to follow.  This is why signin posts is important dumbfuck.)&lt;br /&gt;
:And ultimately you got banned because you were making a major nuisance of yourself in &#039;&#039;without&#039;&#039; any correlating &#039;&#039;&#039;contribution&#039;&#039;&#039; to justify keeping you around.  You&#039;re a negative.  You edited 3 articles- Fandom, Shortpacking and Ruined Forever- and &#039;&#039;all&#039; of those edits got reverted because they either flames or crappy jokes that make the articles &#039;&#039;worse&#039;&#039;.  Even if I were to (generously) believe you didn&#039;t intend to start a fight, you picked the 3 flamebaitiest articles you could find and masturbated across them.  &#039;&#039;Allah forfend&#039;&#039; you should write an &#039;&#039;episode summary&#039;&#039; or something.&lt;br /&gt;
:Unrelated- Walky can Talk:Fandom be semi-protected instead of full?  Loserbot isn&#039;t registered. -[[User:Derik|Derik]]01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==On an unrelated note: Thank you.==&lt;br /&gt;
I know this is an odd place to say it, but I figured if I only said it once, it wouldn&#039;t be a bother so here goes: Thank You. Shortpacked is hilarious, and when not laughing, I&#039;m agreeing with alot of the statements the main character makes. (and feeling like I was the only one who noticed some of them, like the one about General Discussions.) I also noticed your a Hot Shot fan, which is also awesome. I also noticed its due to the efforts of you and other people here that the move was made from Wikia to Tfwiki, which was a good idea so I also want to say a long overdue thank you for doing that as well, and finally: thanks for doing what you can for this site, because without this site, I&#039;d be out of the loops on Club Exclusive things, and other Misc. Transformers related content. I go here frequently for information (or lolz) and I&#039;m quite sure not only me but many others are grateful to you and all others who help contribute to this place.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks, and we do our best!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:08, 4 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I love it too. Ive been going through the archives and im up to the part where amber gets a bit of a makeover and ive loved every second of it --[[User:Mrgalvaprime|Mrgalvaprime]] 17:25, 14 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
only webcomic I read daily.--&lt;br /&gt;
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==Tulsa, Oklahoma==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry to bother you (I tried to avoid saying something again sense I already did the &#039;Thank  you&#039; earlier, but I HAD to ask about this). Had nothing better to do so I&#039;ve been reading shortpacked&#039;s full archive beginning to end today. (Well I&#039;m currently on July 6 2009 to be fair) and I noticed something that I just HAD to ask about. I&#039;ve noticed once you mentioned Oklahoma. I ignored it the first time but then later you said &amp;quot;Tulsa&amp;quot;. Now you got me curious, because I live in Tulsa and thus wondered what made you decide to choose to mention here of all places, sense basically nothing ever happens here. (Aside from the occasional Convention and the recent BOK center. Granted I may be moving to Florida in a few years..I really  hope so. Been here my whole life and its boring) Just thought I&#039;d ask, before curiosity drove me nuts. Keep up the good work on the comic, peace.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT: haha on second thought..maybe I should&#039;ve said this at Walkypedia..or do you even go there? (I&#039;d assume you do.) Oh well, my mistake I guess. Hope you&#039;ll still answer my question regardless. lol--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== WfC Starscream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You said: &amp;quot;We revert that back to Starscream every time you change it for a reason.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:Well that&#039;s just great since that is my first contribution to that page.  And the picture itself says Skywarp so I was just making both consistent.  I&#039;ll change the pic to Starscream as well.--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 11:22, 14 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Ah, sorry.  Got you confused with Blackout, who was also changing it to Skywarp.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:28, 14 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: No prob.  Just re-uploaded the image with starscream in the name rather than skywarp.  The old one now has the delete tag.  Thanks. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 11:33, 14 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quick Report ==&lt;br /&gt;
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More vandalism, on Nekomimi A/B, section animated..I think? caption didn&#039;t seem right..&lt;br /&gt;
I heard you&#039;re supposed to report to an Admin, right?&lt;br /&gt;
-[[User:SlamBolt|Danny LeFox]] 23:37, 20 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: The caption is okay.   --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 21 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Independent Wikis ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello Walky. This is Archaic, webmaster of Pokémon fansite Bulbagarden, and its associated wiki Bulbapedia. I sent you an email about 2 weeks ago (to the address linked on both your webcomics) regarding an idea I&#039;ve recently been playing around with of a co-operative of independent wikis. I understand that you&#039;ve been rather busy recently, so I just wanted to check if you had received that email or not, and if you might be interested in contributing your thoughts to the matter? --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 20:24, 25 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I did receive it!  I&#039;m sorry for not answering swiftly.  Our answer depends on how much interaction you are looking for.  Part of the appeal of leaving Wikia was breaking free of the mandatory link chain to &amp;quot;related wikis&amp;quot; that they put at the bottom of our frontpage.  Our frontpage is now our own.  That&#039;s not something I think we&#039;re interested in.  We are, though, all in favor of people starting up their own wikis instead of depending on those lying Wikia assmongers.  (to coin a phrase)  But, I can&#039;t speak for the people here who help maintain this wiki and how much they would be willing to lend a hand.  So, uh, the answer to your question at the moment is: &amp;quot;I don&#039;t know?&amp;quot;  Um.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:47, 25 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Heh, no worries. We&#039;re all fairly busy at this time of year. For now, we&#039;re going full steam ahead with a limited version of this idea, focusing specifically on wikis linked to Nintendo franchises, which we&#039;re likely to launch within a couple of weeks. Perhaps it might be easiest if I&#039;m able to show you what we&#039;re doing there? While we&#039;re doing quite a bit of integration between the partner wikis for this limited network, I&#039;d imagine that any more general grouping of independent wikis would have to be a lot less so, if only for logistical reasons. As I mentioned in the email, it&#039;s all fairly up in the air right now. A lot of brainstorming, but not a lot of actual action at this point. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 15:15, 26 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If I may weigh in... basically, while I wager most (if not all) of us are individually supportive of any wikis that break free of Wikia, when it comes to linking on this wiki we generally only stick to links that add information to our articles, such as TFU.info, Marvel Universe TF profiles, Wookieepedia and GI Joe sites for Star Wars and GI Joe crossovers, etc. So unless there&#039;s some crossover connection between Pokemon and TF that we missed, I don&#039;t see that we can help, because we don&#039;t have anything that would need a link to your wiki. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:35, 26 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::What, not even with that page you have on Pokéformers? ;) Seriously though, I think you might have misunderstood what I was suggesting. I&#039;m not looking at a 2-way affiliation or link here. Instead, what I&#039;ve been investigating is much closer to what Walky has in Blank Label Comics for his webcomics. An alliance of wikis united by a common purpose. Exactly how far one would take that is the real question. I certainly wouldn&#039;t expect a link to every wiki in such a network on the front page of any wiki in it. As you&#039;ve rightly pointed out, you value the independence you&#039;ve regained after breaking from Wikia, and any such network would have to be very careful to maintain that for all sites while still offering something meaningful. *shrugs* Like I said, all very much pie-in-the-sky kind of vague ideas right now, just exploring possibilities. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 20:47, 26 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve heard, but wikia has decided to make a change (mandatorily!) that is 100 times worse than what drove you guys to a new server. I am interested in finding info on how you guys actually performed your move, and what would need to be done before, during, and after to make it work. If you could give me even a link (so that I can show others), that would be hugely helpful.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If you could message me on my wikia talk page (yes, I know), that would be most appreciated. Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 10:18, 28 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Yeaaaaaaaah==&lt;br /&gt;
:: &#039;&#039;Hey, were you the [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_5&amp;amp;diff=414380&amp;amp;oldid=413827 guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason], and so then he [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/593224.html?thread=14980936#t14980936 quit this wiki] because he was treated like shit?  You don&#039;t get a vote.  Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin&#039; river.  (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes because he was considering the entry was as bare and snarky as possible (You&#039;re hardly the soul of discretion all the time yourself sir) . And remarkably, being from a good distance across the planet, I don&#039;t know where everything is situated on that side of the world so the assumption of he ran into a river instead of the atlantic ocean, while my own fault I&#039;ll admit, is fairly understandable. But if I&#039;m not aloud to voice my opinion cause a guy you don&#039;t know told you something about another guy you don&#039;t know, then tell me now please, save me trying to vote on something again. (I&#039;m being completely serious by the way, if that&#039;s the case, I want to know). All the best.  [[User:Eire]] 01.33 Feb 09 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: When your opinion is &amp;quot;the guy who created this page is a schmuck,&amp;quot; then you&#039;re probably going to get some flak for said opinion.  It&#039;s not like the page was horribly put together.  It was just abbreviated and snarky.  It wasn&#039;t called for.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:52, 8 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guess who&#039;s back..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Masterman666]]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:45, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Remind me who he is, again?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:54, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:Masterman555]]. Banned for flaming and using a sockpuppet. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:01, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Then bye-bye, then! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:15, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Breakaway image caption ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn&#039;t Topspin the one with no personality? (Or was it a ref to Breakaway being Mister Likes-Everyone-Nice-Guy?) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:13, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Topspin doesn&#039;t like being used, and ripped Kickback&#039;s spark out of him in angry fury.  That&#039;s more than Breakaway ever emoted.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:16, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Plus, his utter devotion to Alpha Trion was also more characterization than Breakaway got. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:19, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fair enough... it&#039;s just that since Topspin was always the one with the &amp;quot;No personality&amp;quot; cracks in his page (and the one who&#039;s profile specifically says he&#039;s had his personality and will crushed out) it seemed potentially out of place, so I figured I&#039;d ask.&lt;br /&gt;
:::(Personally I admit I wouldn&#039;t claim Breakaway (who did a fair bit of pep-talking everyone) has no personality any more than Heatwave, who&#039;s equally easy-going, friendly, and optimistic, can be said to not have one, but I was more checking for possible mistakes than taste...)  --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:47, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE: Divebomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hup, my bad. Thanks for catching that! [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 11:06, 22 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Red Alert image ==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for color correcting it, looks much better. My desktop bit the dust last week, and my netbook chokes on photoshop. [[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 01:22, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mainpage logos==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m shocked you haven&#039;t put up BC Breakdown yet. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:34, 8 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just put up *a* Breakdown.  Really, I&#039;d prefer to stick to art rather than toy images.  Spark was an adrenaline rush exception.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:34, 8 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I can&#039;t think of a suitable title to put here right now..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Special:Log/block&amp;amp;page=User:Jeysie|This seems rather uncalled for.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your attention. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:38, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Maybe you should have brought it up during the twenty-four hours in which she was banned, and not like a few minutes before it expired.  And it was certainly called for, considering the disrespect she was showing other users.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:15, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You called her a bitch.  Was that not disrespectful as well? - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:43, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think that was just me making an obvious point about her having talk page conversations &#039;&#039;entirely about other posters&#039;&#039;.  As usual, I make my points through sarcasm.  Jeysie wasn&#039;t being sarcastic or trying to illustrate a greater point when she told me to stop &amp;quot;mouthing off.&amp;quot;  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:21, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m not upset about being banned. What I am upset about is that the reason it&#039;s so irritating trying to have a conversation with you is that you are constantly responding to people trying to make reasonable points with mocking rude responses, often ones that illustrate that the point was missed. So, I don&#039;t like &#039;&#039;your&#039;&#039; disrespectful attitude any more than you like mine.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Considering you actually make good points on the few occasions you turn off the mocking attitude and take the time to understand the points being made, it&#039;d make dealing with you a whole lot less frustrating if you&#039;d keep the attitude turned off all the time. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:57, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Ahahaha Jeysie is telling me to stop having a mocking attitude!  I will mark that on my Jeysie-is-condescending calendar OH WAIT THERE IS NO ROOM --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:21, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Can we stop this?  Both of you?  You&#039;re both highly devoted editors to this wiki and we don&#039;t need a long lasting feud.  Pretty Please? --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 17:28, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The kids don&#039;t like it when mommy and daddy fight.... --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:36, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Seconded. This is time and energy better spent on working on articles, and I&#039;ve seen enough from both of you to know that it would benefit the wiki greatly if you did that. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 17:40, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::If Walky drops the attitude problem, there won&#039;t &#039;&#039;be&#039;&#039; a feud, because I&#039;ll have nothing to comment on to him, which will make me very happy.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The only reason I say anything at all is because I&#039;m tired of his attitude always making trying to discuss something on the wiki a stressful chore instead of something productive. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:44, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::This is silly. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:48, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Response to Walky: Maybe you&#039;re not aware, but I am on a different continent than you are. Different continent = different time zone = inability to respond at the same time as you Americans. And don&#039;t even TRY to shift the blame. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 05:07, 10 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New bot==&lt;br /&gt;
Can I get a bot tag for [[User:DNAVI]] please? abates said you were the man for the job. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 02:25, 15 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Regarding TG Studios and the guy you banned ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Talk:TG Studios|You may want to check this out.]] --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:33, 29 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can you make Timelines sharkticon on wirte and put on a image ?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squiggles! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If by &amp;quot;squiggles&amp;quot;, you mean &amp;quot;Japanese&amp;quot;, toss me a copy of that translation, eh, my fine fellow? For the annotations, don&#039;tcha know! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:30, 5 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: In the filecard for Primal Major and Alpha Supreme, Maggie translated the two non-English characters at the end of it, which mean &amp;quot;Shanghai.&amp;quot;  That&#039;s all she&#039;s done (per my specific request), so I don&#039;t have anything else to tell you. :) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:35, 5 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ahh, that&#039;s still cool! I wouldn&#039;t have figured it out on my own! I have spotted at least one or two other bits of Japanese in there and was going to pester Spengler about them anyway. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:40, 5 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== King Starscream&#039;s bounty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So, do I get it if I turn myself in? - [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 12:55, 2 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Look! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You suck! Along with most of the other administartors on this wiki. I can&#039;t believe you treat people the way you do. I&#039;ve been watching for a while, and I will tell you, that you&#039;re just an asshole! Why don&#039;t you grow up, and quit being a dick to everyone! Banning people for ridiculous reasons! Telling people their work is shit! In fact, I created this account just to confront you! GROW UP AND QUIT BEING A DICK! YOU&amp;quot;RE AN ASSHOLE! {{unsigned|Generations123|17:32, 11 August 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:The irony is staggering. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:40, 11 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think this guy deserves a Shortpacked! comic in his honor.--[[Special:Contributions/65.11.250.113|65.11.250.113]] 19:26, 29 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My sandboxes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hiya David, I was wondering if you will take a look at my improved Primes sandbox (not that I&#039;m suggesting to retitle the article or anything, it&#039;s just the whim of my user space). I hadn&#039;t realized Marvel never uses the number 13, as it&#039;s been years since I read &amp;quot;Legacy of Unicron&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Primal Scream&amp;quot;, one takes these things for granted now. Also, regarding Alpha Trion, I finally have a response again to yesterday&#039;s chat, I feel we can compromise on this: the only thing bugging people about him being a multiversal singularity is SG. As you suggested, we should wait: we should wait to see if Forest or Hasbro explain his actions in that continuity or if multiversal singularities don&#039;t apply to mirrorverses like SG and that Alpha is truely unique from the original Prime who&#039;s more likely than not the one from G1/RID/UT/TA/ROTF/WFC. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:08, 12 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scan request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since I can&#039;t find my copy of it at the minute, and since I know you had it out recent to scan that image of Rodimus Prime that&#039;s on the main page at the moment, might I trouble you to scan the panel from the third issue of the Marvel movie adaptation that features Hot Rod with a handful of energon sticks? On Junkion, when he&#039;s trying the universal greeting. Thanks! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 04:59, 30 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ultra Magnus ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we need to rewrite the Dreamwave section. It&#039;s kind of old TFwiki there with the super-condensed summary and lack of links to individual issues. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:04, 30 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Daleks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Listen, if you want behind the scenes proof, When the Daleks first appeared in Doctor Who, they were called Daleks, Davros calling the casing Mark 3 Travel Machine never happed until the time of the Forth Doctor. The information on the page is WRONG.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and by the way, Davros if a Doctor Who character. Detour is giving us information from fiction too. The comment is wrong.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:22, 16 October 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Something that might be of interest to the TFWiki... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think you&#039;ll find [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/original-g1-scripts-designs-other-items-on-heritage-auction/20162/ this] to be rather interesting, as it may contain certain materials that would be decent additions to this Wiki. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:39, 8 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Thanks.  I took some screencaps where I could.  We should tell [[Jim Sorenson]] these exist and maybe he has a million dollars.  (Or maybe just a hundred.  Not many bids on these, and who the hell even knows this auction site exists?)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:33, 8 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That site had some of the live-action movie props being auctioned either last year or earlier this year, IIRC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:45, 8 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Should I/we let him know in his [[User talk:Jimsorenson|User Talk page]] about this? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:09, 9 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Question &amp;amp; request==&lt;br /&gt;
How come we should keep &amp;quot;Junkion trader&amp;quot;? I wouldn&#039;t know of a source that makes it a canon designation and before the article even had the noname-nickname template. So, why keep a made-up name that&#039;s no longer needed?&lt;br /&gt;
: Also, if you have &#039;&#039;The Complet Ark&#039;&#039;, could you add an image of adult Chip Chase to his article? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:15, 14 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Isn&#039;t &amp;quot;Junkion trader&amp;quot; from a magazine or something?  I don&#039;t think we made it up.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:43, 14 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I can&#039;t say anything about magazines (though I&#039;d wonder which magazine would bother to mention such an obscure &amp;quot;character&amp;quot;), but mostly, Derik, who made the article, had it marked as &amp;quot;nickname&amp;quot; from the start and left a reason for naming Junkion 1 &amp;quot;Junkion trader&amp;quot; on the Omniverse talk page. Altogether, I think it&#039;s not canon in any capacity. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:49, 14 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*clenches fist*  &#039;&#039;Derik&#039;&#039;!!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:50, 14 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Another request (Junkion related)==&lt;br /&gt;
I figure that before I completely lose my sight looking for Junkion models in a sea of red &amp;amp; random, I should ensure someone will move the Junkion articles (currently 3) I&#039;ve been writing to their proper location. Would you be so kind? If the articles aren&#039;t clear enough on which model/character is described, there&#039;s a small extra description in the mainpic temapltes (that I just figured out don&#039;t show up on the actual page). Pretty please? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:40, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t own the Complete Ark, so it will have to wait for someone to divulge that information.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:49, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: :( Well, I guess I could try pestering Sorenson about it. Sorry for bothering you. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:55, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I have the Complete Ark, but I&#039;m finding your descriptions a little vague. I think I&#039;d need screen shots or comic panels or whatever to work out who you&#039;re talking about. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:06, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As I said, the mainpic template contains a &amp;quot;screenshot description&amp;quot; that should make it possible to track who is who. Otherwise, [[:Image:TFTM Junkions.JPG|the three most in front in order are: kisser, double-eye and mouthplate]]. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:09, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Talk:Bulkhead (Prime) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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But every other kind of comment is allowed including swearing. The whole point of discussion pages is to discuss despite whether you think it&#039;s a waste. If it was in the wrong place then you should have said. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 09:46, 29 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: &amp;quot;He looks kind of purple when he&#039;s under certain lighting&amp;quot; is not something that&#039;s worth discussing.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:43, 29 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This might silence those who question the WFC/Exodus/Prime continuity ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We finally have [http://www.unicron.com/news_item/2462/ official word] straight from the mouth of Hasbro itself that War for Cybertron, Exodus, and Prime are indeed in the same aligned continuity. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:16, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:So... exactly what we had BEFORE. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:24, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, but, now we can point nonbelievers to the words directly, instead of them having to just take our word for it. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:33, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So... exactly what we had BEFORE. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:39, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::On this very wiki: [[Hasbro_Q%26A/September_2010:_Answers]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:06, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I Am Sorry ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey look, I am here to apologize for the crap I have been saying. I was acting like a jerk for a while to you and It has really been haunting me recently. I know I need to work on my grammer, and I actually shouldn&#039;t posting anything since I am only in my second year in High School, and to be honest, I have only been a fan of TF for 9 years. I have really been a jerk recently and I just want to have a clean start now. I hope you understand. I am sorry, in other words, for all the crap I put you and this sight through.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 14:02, 22 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Walky..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
Care to tell me why you have blocked my IP? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 06:11, 23 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:ItsWalky blocked your IP because of that Goldbug (IDW) toy deal of a few days ago. He may not have realized you were a regular contributor, but regardless, you should&#039;ve started a third/fourth debate rather than declare the first two void because their results don&#039;t strike with your view on &amp;quot;reality&amp;quot;. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 06:20, 23 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I blocked the anonymous IP who got into the edit war over removing Goldbug&#039;s toy info, which was just fucking obnoxious.  If that was you, then whoops.  Don&#039;t be a dickwad.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:16, 23 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== You have Lugnut? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve heard about you reviewing him, did you obtain him at a Brick &amp;amp; Mortar store like Walmart or Target?  If so, which one (so the hunt may go on).  Or was it through eBay/&amp;quot;specialty&amp;quot; store, or overseas?  Moreso I&#039;m wondering if the &amp;quot;not yet released&amp;quot; tag should still be applied to the Hasbro version on [[Lugnut (TF 2010)|his page]]. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 23:28, 11 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I got him from Big Bad Toy Store.  He has been seen in stores, but like many other toys these days, he&#039;s having trouble hitting saturation.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:45, 12 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aw look==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Willis_(cartoonist)_(2nd_nomination) Your Wikipedia page is up for deletion].&lt;br /&gt;
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-Blackout-&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, a nomination you started. Big effing whup. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:04, 9 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Which is why it got a SpeedyKeep and the deletion tag is already gone.  Nice try.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:52, 9 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Generations Scourge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ohhh, yes, I see now. I didn&#039;t realise that his head could extend so far up. I thought it was just the normal extension for his robot mode. Bit of a pain to push back down, though...&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, I apologise.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for backing me up on the bolded-comma issue.  I knew all those things people said about you couldn&#039;t be true!  [[User:JW|JW]] 16:24, 21 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==A week?==&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t you think that&#039;s a bit long for a regular editor to be banned? Far as I can tell, he didn&#039;t even get a warning. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:58, 29 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: It&#039;s not his first week-long ban.  And he&#039;s been warned (and banned) about this behavior before.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:07, 29 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don&#039;t you think that&#039;s a bit short since that&#039;s about the only thing he does? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 13:11, 29 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Iacon Archives==&lt;br /&gt;
Looking through the history of &amp;quot;Laserbeak (Cybertron)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Revelations Part 3&amp;quot;, I see you were the one who called the archives the &#039;Iacon Archives&#039;. Where did you get this name from, as it is not in the comics? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:45, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: The archives appeared to be in Iacon.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:17, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you elaborate on &amp;quot;appeared&amp;quot;? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:02, 21 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Everything in the story happened in Iacon.  Or under Iacon.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:43, 21 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Not really, since Vector Prime and co. first hang out at Kalis and Kaon also gets namedropped at some point. So... I guess that means the Archives&#039; location can&#039;t be pinpointend any better than &amp;quot;somewhere on Cybertron&amp;quot;. Thanks for helping me! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:14, 21 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New User==&lt;br /&gt;
There I did everything you said also I don&#039;t know how to use user pages so I hope i&#039;m doing this right.[[User:Chubzhac|Chubzhac]] 23:35, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it ok to use external links for titles such as &#039;&#039;Star Trek: Leonard McCoy, Frontier Doctor&#039;&#039;? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 00:15, 31 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: In what context?  I&#039;d really rather prefer most external links remain in the External links section.  I kinda hate when I click on a link in the body of an article, thinking there&#039;ll be something relevant on this site, only to be taken elsewhere. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 31 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s a little contradictory since there are external links all over this site that isn&#039;t in the External Links section. So what specifically don&#039;t you like about it? Being misled into thinking you&#039;re going onto Lindsey Lohan&#039;s Wikipedia article, but instead go to Mandy Moore&#039;s? (or something like that) What I meant exactly was that in almost every issue&#039;s page there&#039;s an Advertisment section showing what else is from the same publisher (that&#039;s why I used &#039;&#039;Star Trek&#039;&#039; as an example). So could some of those advertisments have an external link to another wiki site that would specialise (or have more insight) in that particular title. I hope that was a little more straight foward and maybe a little easier to understand. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 13:16, 1 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Probation appeal ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So, the incident that led to my probation was proposing that [[Dead End (Animated)]] move to &amp;quot;Dead End (Timelines)&amp;quot; on the basis that that was his franchise-of-origin. I brought the issue up on the Allspark&#039;s &amp;quot;Major Wiki work&amp;quot; thread because I had no idea why it was reverted and I couldn&#039;t talk about it here (because of the probation thing). [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&amp;amp;showtopic=51208&amp;amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=1825571 The conclusion seemed to be] that I was &#039;&#039;technically&#039;&#039; correct, but the Wiki just didn&#039;t want to do it that way.&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|The idea of moving the BotCon-exclusive Animated characters to a &amp;quot;Timelines&amp;quot; disambig is just one of those occasional instances where the instruction to &amp;quot;[[Help:Ignore all standards|ignore all standards]]&amp;quot; comes into play. Sometimes, it&#039;s just easier, more aesthetically pleasing, or just feels RIGHT to do things a certain way that may not be the way everything else is done.|[[Chris McFeely]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
I went about everything the right way, as far as I know. I put one move proposal tag on one page so it could be talked about. I gave a technically correct reason, &amp;quot;Franchise of origin. Like [[Cop-Tur (Timelines)]]&amp;quot;. I do my best to remember to not do what I have been hollered at for doing in the past, but seriously, I had no way of knowing I was stepping into an instance of &amp;quot;ignore all standards&amp;quot;. All you really had to do was revert my one move proposal with a big &amp;quot;We are ignoring all standards you moron!&amp;quot; in the change log. You would have felt better for hollering at me and I would have been clued in on what was going on and that would have been the end of it. So, can I please have my probation lifted? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:59, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==When the past comes to haunt you==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Vector Sigma Chamber]] - I have no clue how it could be written so that it&#039;s significantly different from the Vector Sigma page. You&#039;ve stated you believe it could be an article with its own worth. If you have time, would you please give the page its long needed update?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, I have never been able to track down the source that the &#039;&#039;[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]&#039;&#039; is Shockwave&#039;s underwater base in the Marvel comics. You and Derik talked about the source being one of the letters pages, but would you have any idea which issue&#039;s letters page?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
As an aside, [[TFWiki.net 2011 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries|this page]] is locked, which would be all fine and stuff if not for the handful of article links that can not be fixed anymore. Could you please remove all of them? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:32, 15 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New and ticked off ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m new here. I have taken your suggestions into account, but there is one thing that still bothers me: no one else wants to help me. Can you lend a hand? --[[User:Ibreakthingz|The Breaker]] 19:24, 15 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nope - Random IP number&lt;br /&gt;
::What do you need help with? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:54, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Let me tell you, I am SUPER excited to help the guy who starts off by telling me he&#039;s ticked off.   --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:03, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Oh man, sorry ==&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t see any comments, only some guy asking about how the info and description of Cybertron should be. Sorry about the confusion. I actually don&#039;t think that I ever reverted it back O.o I don&#039;t remember that, I must have clicked on some wrong place or something. Again, sorry fellow Transformer-fan :) [[User:Luka1184|Luka1184]] 11:15, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dark of the Moon: Ship? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What exactly did they use to explore the moon then? Just wondering, thanks. [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 02:22, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: The novelization calls the ship Ratchet and Optimus Prime take to the moon the &amp;quot;Atlax X,&amp;quot; a human-built craft.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:45, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Whoops, what I meant to say was what did Optimus and Ratchet use to recover the comatose (boy I love that word after seeing it on Tfwiki) body of Sentinel? [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 03:00, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, in the finished film, they &#039;&#039;do&#039;&#039; use the Xantium to go to the moon. Prime announces in a voiceover at the beginning of the scene, &amp;quot;Xantium approaching Tranquility base&amp;quot;. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:42, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It feels weird, then, that they only really introduce the ship much later in the movie.--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:34, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Quite agreed. Seems fairly obvious that it was originally going to be a human-built endeavour (it&#039;s the &amp;quot;Ares V&amp;quot; in the comic), but then someone said &amp;quot;Why do they need a human rocket if our script already features a pre-existing Autobot spaceship as a plot point?&amp;quot;, and it got shoved in earlier without any real reworking of the later intro scene. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:38, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Evac (Prime) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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At SDCC announced two new figures for a character called Evac, from the Prime franchise, should we wait until he makes an appearance in the show to create his own article? --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 20:58, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Remember, one doesn&#039;t have to appear in the show to get a toy. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:03, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I could have sworn that Evac was supposed to be a character for the new Transformers ride...[[Special:Contributions/98.209.73.178|98.209.73.178]] 21:28, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He&#039;s not from Prime, correct.  He&#039;s a new character created for the movie-based Transformers ride at Universal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:23, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I need to tell you something. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi. There&#039;s something that I&#039;ve been feeling a bit guilty about for a long time. You see, on a different account (which I will reveal the name of after you respond to make sure there are no hard feelings) I was quite rude. I was irrational, confused and upset. Afterwards, I left this site in guilt, and ashamed because I wasn&#039;t thinking rationally a few times while on my account. Do you think you can maybe accept my apology for my actions, because I feel like a horrible person for the silly things I brought up and got into. Would you please accept my apology? If you can&#039;t, well, that&#039;s okay too. If you don&#039;t get this, well, I just wanted to say I&#039;m sorry for being such a horrible person on such a good website. :( &lt;br /&gt;
[[Special:Contributions/74.82.64.16|74.82.64.16]] 15:27, 28 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guilt ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I was thinking about my previous heading &amp;quot;I need to tell you something&amp;quot; and I reliezed that although I ment it in a kind way, I thought it&#039;s possible that you could believe that to mean that I had some cruel things to say, which I did not. The message is still the same though! If it means anything, I would like to say you can be sure nothing like that could happen again with me. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Special:Contributions/74.82.64.17|74.82.64.17]] 16:05, 28 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t know who you are, but I guess we&#039;re all right.  It&#039;s hard to refuse an apology from an anonymous dude.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:12, 29 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Harrison Ford ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Was it rude? Horrifying even? Why did you undo my edit? An external reference isn&#039;t to much to ask for. Is it? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 19:39, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I addressed this on the talk page.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:55, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Files on user pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed the images from my user page because of fair use, but nobody had removed them in the meantime because of this. So did I do right by taking them off or can I put them back? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 19:46, 23 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t really understand what you&#039;re asking.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:35, 23 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Let&#039;s try this again. On another wiki I added a pic to [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Anythingspossibleforapossible&amp;amp;oldid=39022 my user page] and it was [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Anythingspossibleforapossible&amp;amp;action=history removed]. [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Thailog#Using files on your own user page This is the reply I got when I inquired further]. If you still don&#039;t understand I&#039;ll just put them back. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 18:11, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Over here, you&#039;re allowed to upload one pic specifically for your userpage. On top of that, from what I gather, you can add other pics that already exist for article, but obviously don&#039;t go overboard. Hope that helps! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:10, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Thank you. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 18:11, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I noticed the BotCon Europe 2002 talk page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Selective_deletion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Just being helpful. :) --[[User:Krafty|K-K-Krafty!]] 10:22, 11 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About the caption bastard template... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not understand why you added that (mean-spirited) template. It&#039;s only two captions, and if you looked at my contributions, you would have noticed that I added a lot of information. I thought captions were supposed to be a reward for all that work. Adding a twist on an overused joke is at least an attempt to make it fresh, rather than stating some variation of &amp;quot;this joke sucks now&amp;quot;, which is &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; as overused as plainly using an overused joke. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 19:41, 6 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I apologize for using the template.  I was going to write a more personal note, but remembered we had the template, forgetting how sharply worded it was.  You have not been a bad editor.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:42, 6 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==A massive favour to ask==&lt;br /&gt;
Ive just started getting into your webcomics (im up to date on shortpacked and it wasnt until this morning i realised about you&#039;re earlier ones) but i have a huge favour to ask of you. I am currntly stuck with this stupid school laptop for a home computer which includes a school blocking system. While Shortpacked and Joyce and Walky sites are unaffected when i try to open dumbing of age it comes up with&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there anyway you could perhaps email me copies of the files for each update + all the ones so far. I can understand if you say no but i though there was no harm in asking--[[User:Mrgalvaprime|Mrgalvaprime]] 06:15, 17 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I&#039;m sorry, but I cannot email you all my comics.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:12, 1 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Prime toys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You wouldn&#039;t happen to know when exactly the &#039;&#039;Transformers: Prime&#039;&#039; toys are scheduled to be released, would you?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 19:59, 1 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Transformers toys that aren&#039;t the first wave of product for a blockbuster movie don&#039;t tend to have release dates.  Stores will receive them and put them out at some point after that.  So I have no date for you.  However, I&#039;ve seen them out at some stores here for weeks, so the answer is &amp;quot;some time in the past, perhaps now, perhaps not until the future.&amp;quot;  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:10, 1 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I haven&#039;t seen any toys in the stores, but thanks anyway.[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 21:44, 1 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The other convention-exclusive pink Arcee figure, they are availible on the web. How would I be able to get it without getting lead into a scam. I was hoping you or someone on this wiki would know how I would be able to get that toy. I didn&#039;t go to the convention.[[Special:Contributions/71.162.106.122|71.162.106.122]] 19:24, 4 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transformers-prime-bumblebee-and-arcee-set?BR=496&amp;amp;ID=29273 --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:58, 5 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wow! Only $29.99. Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
:::On Ebay, it costs $80.00.&lt;br /&gt;
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== what you said to me ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i will make sure i learn more english when i go to school today&lt;br /&gt;
: Mostly I hope they teach you about capital letters and punctuation.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:02, 19 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s kind of hard to do that all when you&#039;re using a wii like I am [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 02:08, 19 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: If you&#039;re editing the wiki with something that makes it nigh-impossible to edit the wiki, you probably shouldn&#039;t edit the wiki.  I&#039;ve tried it on my cellphone before, and it&#039;s extremely difficult to get all of the various coding right, but if I can&#039;t edit the wiki correctly, I just don&#039;t edit the wiki.  Leaving a bunch of stuff that has to be deleted or completely overhauled is worse than not contributing at all.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:54, 19 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Fallen/Megatronus Prime artwork ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted to have someone verify this before I uploaded it, but is [http://t4ak.roblox.com/daaf9f4eb9b33f115661eb4a7c849007 this] the concept art for the &#039;&#039;Aligned&#039;&#039; pre-Fallen version of Megatronus Prime, and if so is is usable? --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 15:23, 10 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: That&#039;s not exactly what we saw at Hasbro&#039;s panels.  It&#039;s not in the same style.  (It&#039;d look more like the Aligned Prima art, which is way more painterly.)  This looks like an artist&#039;s recreation from memory to me.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:07, 10 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, just what I needed to know.  Off to search again. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:53, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Pictures were not allowed of those guys.  If you somehow manage to find one, we wouldn&#039;t be able to use it.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:15, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Gotcha.  Thanks anyway. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 21:37, 17 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Prime Hot Shot toy image ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not really sure why you replaced the photos that I already took for the toy with your own, (which are kind of faded, especially with the red) but whatever. Just kind of wondering why, though. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Well, there go my efforts... :/&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 23:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: M Sipher overwrote my Kick-Over photos.  It happens.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:33, 7 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reno Wilson ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If I sound impatient, I&#039;m sorry, but I&#039;ve explained the reasoning behind my edit to the Mudflap controversy several times over, and nobody has disagreed with me.  A couple users explained what it&#039;s supposed to mean, but it turns out that it&#039;s based on an incorrect assumption to begin with.  Both times that I&#039;ve I changed it, though, the edit has been reverted without an explanation.  If this is about my spate of edits to my own comments, then I&#039;m sorry, but I&#039;m just editing a minor note to be more factually accurate and less obtusely &amp;quot;snarky&amp;quot;.  How can I get it to stick? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:00, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: &amp;quot;Nobody has disagreed with me&amp;quot; is a pretty bold complaint, considering everyone on that talk page disagrees with you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:08, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::In my defense, that&#039;s a recent development.  Nobody &#039;&#039;had&#039;&#039; disagreed with me when I wrote that.  If anyone can prove me wrong or show that this is a special case, I&#039;ll shut up right now.  However, while I understand if it became personal at some point, I have to admit I don&#039;t see the point in defending the wording of one note so closely to begin with, at least not unless it&#039;s funnier than I thought. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 18:12, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715745</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715745"/>
		<updated>2012-05-13T21:54:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */ One edit this time.  My mistake.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure why one person&#039;s anecdotal evidence is trumping everyone else&#039;s.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow you.  Who&#039;s using anecdotal evidence? (It isn&#039;t me, is it?  The short version is, the note is inaccurate, even as a joke, and the linked article doesn&#039;t actually back it up.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:41, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:...so, if there aren&#039;t any objections, can we take it out?  Or am I missing something? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:49, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In full awareness that I&#039;ve already been warned for over-tweaking my earlier comments -- this wasn&#039;t my first time; I&#039;ll do better in the future -- I&#039;m afraid of being instantly reverted again.  Unless I&#039;ve missed something important, the note in question is factually wrong, difficult to read, based on a faulty premise, and (with apologies to the original editor) not very funny.  Can I safely delete it? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:32, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;d say everyone else disagrees, so you&#039;re outvoted.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But... &#039;&#039;nobody&#039;&#039; has disagreed.  I was confused at first, asked for an explanation, and it came out that the note is altogether wrong.  After that, when I suggested deleting it, nobody objected.  I&#039;ve &#039;&#039;edited&#039;&#039; it to actually describe what happened and it was reverted again.  What&#039;s the problem? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 16:17, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I disagree. There. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:15, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The note was there for nearly 3 years, with several prominent editors seeing fit to leave it as they made other changes. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:36, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::That as may be, I&#039;ve explained what&#039;s wrong with it, and established that (among other things) it&#039;s misleading, which wiki policy specifically says should go.  This can&#039;t be the first long-standing piece of an article that&#039;s been edited much later. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:39, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The note makes sense to EVERYONE WHO&#039;S EVER READ IT EXCEPT YOU. It was explained to you by abates, an explanation that you did not seem to understand and your response to said explanation MADE NO SENSE TO ANYONE OTHER THAN YOU. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:46, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I understood abates&#039; explanation.  If you didn&#039;t understand my response, then I apologize.  Put more briefly, it&#039;s based on a premise that the article doesn&#039;t actually back up.  Even if it&#039;s comprehensible, it&#039;s incorrect. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:52, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715744</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715744"/>
		<updated>2012-05-13T21:52:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure why one person&#039;s anecdotal evidence is trumping everyone else&#039;s.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow you.  Who&#039;s using anecdotal evidence? (It isn&#039;t me, is it?  The short version is, the note is inaccurate, even as a joke, and the linked article doesn&#039;t actually back it up.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:41, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:...so, if there aren&#039;t any objections, can we take it out?  Or am I missing something? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:49, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In full awareness that I&#039;ve already been warned for over-tweaking my earlier comments -- this wasn&#039;t my first time; I&#039;ll do better in the future -- I&#039;m afraid of being instantly reverted again.  Unless I&#039;ve missed something important, the note in question is factually wrong, difficult to read, based on a faulty premise, and (with apologies to the original editor) not very funny.  Can I safely delete it? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:32, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;d say everyone else disagrees, so you&#039;re outvoted.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But... &#039;&#039;nobody&#039;&#039; has disagreed.  I was confused at first, asked for an explanation, and it came out that the note is altogether wrong.  After that, when I suggested deleting it, nobody objected.  I&#039;ve &#039;&#039;edited&#039;&#039; it to actually describe what happened and it was reverted again.  What&#039;s the problem? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 16:17, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I disagree. There. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:15, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The note was there for nearly 3 years, with several prominent editors seeing fit to leave it as they made other changes. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:36, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::That as may be, I&#039;ve explained what&#039;s wrong with it, and established that (among other things) it&#039;s misleading, which wiki policy specifically says should go.  This can&#039;t be the first long-standing piece of an article that&#039;s been edited much later. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:39, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The note makes sense to EVERYONE WHO&#039;S EVER READ IT EXCEPT YOU. It was explained to you by abates, an explanation that you did not seem to understand and your response to said explanation MADE NO SENSE TO ANYONE OTHER THAN YOU. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:46, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I understood abates&#039; explanation.  If you didn&#039;t understand my response, then I apologize.  Put more briefly, it&#039;s based on a premise that the article doesn&#039;t actually back up.  Even if it&#039;s comprehensible, it&#039;s incorrect.  If I&#039;m &#039;&#039;wrong&#039;&#039; about anything, please tell me. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:52, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715740</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-13T21:39:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure why one person&#039;s anecdotal evidence is trumping everyone else&#039;s.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow you.  Who&#039;s using anecdotal evidence? (It isn&#039;t me, is it?  The short version is, the note is inaccurate, even as a joke, and the linked article doesn&#039;t actually back it up.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:41, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:...so, if there aren&#039;t any objections, can we take it out?  Or am I missing something? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:49, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In full awareness that I&#039;ve already been warned for over-tweaking my earlier comments -- this wasn&#039;t my first time; I&#039;ll do better in the future -- I&#039;m afraid of being instantly reverted again.  Unless I&#039;ve missed something important, the note in question is factually wrong, difficult to read, based on a faulty premise, and (with apologies to the original editor) not very funny.  Can I safely delete it? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:32, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;d say everyone else disagrees, so you&#039;re outvoted.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But... &#039;&#039;nobody&#039;&#039; has disagreed.  I was confused at first, asked for an explanation, and it came out that the note is altogether wrong.  After that, when I suggested deleting it, nobody objected.  I&#039;ve &#039;&#039;edited&#039;&#039; it to actually describe what happened and it was reverted again.  What&#039;s the problem? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 16:17, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I disagree. There. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:15, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The note was there for nearly 3 years, with several prominent editors seeing fit to leave it as they made other changes. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:36, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::That as may be, I&#039;ve explained what&#039;s wrong with it, and established that (among other things) it&#039;s misleading, which wiki policy specifically says should go.  This can&#039;t be the first long-standing piece of an article that&#039;s been edited much later. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:39, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ItsWalky&amp;diff=715732</id>
		<title>User talk:ItsWalky</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:ItsWalky&amp;diff=715732"/>
		<updated>2012-05-13T21:00:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Reno Wilson */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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==Things to say to you==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just some thing I&#039;ve been wanting to say to David...&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, you&#039;re a monumental asshole. You have an ego the size of a small planet and it&#039;s irritating watching you act like an important SOB when you&#039;re basically just a nobody.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, your webcomics aren&#039;t funny. They&#039;re boring tripe that makes Penny Arcade look good(and believe me, Penny Arcade is garbage). Cyanide and Happiness is a funny webcomic, yours is not. Your &amp;quot;jokes&amp;quot; are painful, about like watching Michael Richards yell the n-word as a routine. You don&#039;t draw a comic, you draw an opinionated blog. I&#039;m not sure which name suits your crap better, &amp;quot;ShitPacked&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;ShortDicked&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your liberalism and your love of Indiana get on my nerves. You jab at Mallard Filmore? Yeah, one shitty comic making fun of another shitty comic. Or are you just pissed that his gets in newspapers while you&#039;re JUST a webcomic? As to Indiana, I live here, and if it were up to me, the state would be walled off and none of the freaks living there allowed to interact with the rest of the planet. The state is about 3 decades behind the times. But something tells me even you know this otherwise you&#039;d still live here. I sure as hell do not live here by choice and as soon as I can, I&#039;m moving far away from this joke of a state. &lt;br /&gt;
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And your brand loyalty is typical fandom crap. You have Aaron Archer&#039;s rod so far down your throat it&#039;s unreal. And Aryan fucktard Michael Bay&#039;s rod has apparently joined it. I&#039;d say soemthing abotu Don Murphy but he was born without one. Actually, I can say something- he&#039;s Kevin &amp;quot;unfunny asshole&amp;quot; Smith with more body fat. Hasbro didn&#039;t give the film to a competent director, just a cheap one. And neither Speilberg or ILM have done anything useful in years. Give WETA, or even Tom Savini a chance and we wouldn&#039;t be getting Bionicle bots. You&#039;re afraid to not like a Hasbro product. No wonder they don&#039;t have to go out of the way to please the &amp;quot;fans&amp;quot;- you&#039;ll accept it no matter what. But hey, you personally have been sucking off incompetent British bonehead Simon Furman and his shitty stories for years. There are no gods in Transformers. Unicron was built by a monkey, little man. Furman is dog shit.&lt;br /&gt;
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And go figure this TF wiki is a joke full of misinformation, insults or outright lies- you&#039;re a mod here. You&#039;re never right. You&#039;re more of an incorrect pompous jerkoff than Defunct is. Right, ban me from editing, as if it would somehow matter, any info you don&#039;t agree with is pulled. You only have friends because people feel sorry for you. Me, I have no need. People are a commodity to be used and their wants only get in the way of what I&#039;m out for. Use them and drop them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Who am I? Go look who added a note about you on Encyclopedia Dramatica&#039;s Allspark page if you&#039;re not too lazy. As well as past AS, Kalidor, FIRRIB and Hooks entries(the hooks entry especially true). Oh, and just info on white people in general and that idiotic Nintendo Wii. I&#039;m not making it that easy for you.&lt;br /&gt;
: Is it my birthday?  This stuff &#039;&#039;feeds&#039;&#039; me.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Duuuuude. Walky may be a dick, but I still &#039;&#039;like&#039;&#039; him for some inexplicable reason. You, on the other hand, are just one sore drama queen.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: This is some of the most funny stuff I&#039;ve seen in a while. Comedy PLATINUM. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Bwa ha ha ha ha.  Priceless.  I think someone needs to get off the internets for a few minutes. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Wait, you mean I didn&#039;t get drunk and write this?  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 05:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I wish lame puns happened to me. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do I get the feeling that guy has been permanently banned?[[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 15:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow, an Encyclopedia Dramatica troll. No need to be so harsh on Walky. I, too, like the Baybots, and, I happen to like Bionicle. Also, his Webcomic is one of my favorites. So, if you have nothing nice to say, never ever EVER come back here.--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 16:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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What the hell did I do to warrant a ban, exactly? As far as I&#039;m aware, I don&#039;t even think I broke any rules, and if I did, an official warning would be appropriate. I received no such warning. I was not here for trolling and you know that - you use that bullshit excuse to get people to ignore arguments you can&#039;t handle. But you, personally, who made this decision, know I&#039;m not a troll.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is fucking low. I had little enough respect for you down to your ranting against the fanbase, Willis, but this is a whole new level of buggery. If you&#039;re going to use your comic to rant against and discredit people you don&#039;t like, the least you can do is suck it up when people rant at you back, and not act like a control-freak child.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really don&#039;t think you&#039;re aware of your own actions anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
*Do the words [[Wikipedia:WP:NPA|no personal attacks]] mean anything to you? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Do the words &amp;quot;warning before ban&amp;quot; mean anything to you? Rulemongering doesn&#039;t justify a decision anyway, since Walky is one of the people making the rules. There were plenty of personal attacks leveled at me, but I did not report them officially.&lt;br /&gt;
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::I really find it hard to believe that you think it&#039;s completely on a rational level of discourse to claim that the comic strip I draw is about child pornography.   If I&#039;m not mistaken about your identity, you&#039;ve been banned from almost every single Transformers web board you&#039;ve had an acquaintance with, and I&#039;m only doing this place a favor by getting rid of you.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: That&#039;s not an excuse. I will openly admit I HAVE been banned from several forums, but only because I repeatedly opposed the staff on each and every one of them; and with good cause, they all have roughly the same problem. People bully others either into liking the movie or to agree with the kind of views you promote - and since nobody can directly attack or discredit anyone, these people(and you are) are left to their methods.&lt;br /&gt;
::: For your current decision to be validated, the admins of those boards, boards which are influenced in turn by your anti-fan attitude, would have to be near 100% correct in their decisions, and those decisions would have to occur within a context that would map exactly onto here. Any rational moderator does not base their decisions so much off performance on other boards, especially when it&#039;s not even a messageboard they&#039;re operating. Two different media. I have openly said I despise all active Transformers boards for their level of authoritarianism, yet level of tolerance towards the pushing of certain viewpoints.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Not to mention that you&#039;re still operating under the fallacy of Appeal to Majority - that alone means I shouldn&#039;t really even have to counter you.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: And don&#039;t even use the &amp;quot;CHILD PORNOGRAPHY&amp;quot; thing as an excuse. Again, any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban, I personally reversed that edit even though it was obviously intended to be a joke as anyone reading this knows what pile&#039;o&#039;bile already is. You have no justification for what you did, but your ego is too big to realise you can actually do wrong with your power. You&#039;ll never admit it, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if some part of you is pissed that I defeated some of your ramblings, whether they were directly written by you or encouraged by you, it&#039;s still the kind of guff you normally blew, and I managed to defeat it. You, and the mods of the big sites will always have your ban buttons - but you will NEVER be able to justify your actions to me. That&#039;s how I know that I&#039;m in the right, at least in situations like this - solidly backed justification is almost always absent.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Personal attacks + deleting comments in response to you = banno  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: I have never intentionally deleted comments in response to me. I just moved one recently as it was in the middle of a paragraph of text. Not to mention that happened after you banned my original IP. Personal attacks alone are not grounds enough for a ban, especially when you&#039;re doing an awful, awful lot to be mercilessly torn into. &lt;br /&gt;
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Do you even realise what a fascist shithead you sound like? Just because you&#039;re an admin of a place doesn&#039;t give you a free pass to be a dick with it. There&#039;s a difference between what you can do and what you should do that you don&#039;t seem to have learned yet. [[User:67.159.44.88|67.159.44.88]]&lt;br /&gt;
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TRUTH****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111twelve  FUCKING FASCIST PIGCOP NAZI WIKIPEDO &#039;&#039;&#039;ASSHOLE&#039;&#039;&#039;  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: My gosh, now that I have seen someone mock the notion, it MUST be untrue. Please, where can I learn these 1337 debating skills?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Dude, I&#039;ve been banned from twice as many forums as you, guaranfuckingteed, but they still let me post here because I&#039;m not as goddamn retarded as you are.  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: And can you demonstrate exactly how I&#039;m more retarded than you? Or are you just, Walky style, dropping weighted terms to discredit someone&#039;s point of view without even trying?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::1. Hoop doesn&#039;t delete other people&#039;s comments on talk pages. 2. He actually signs his posts, which you&#039;ve been asked to do many times, but haven&#039;t caught on. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: I didn&#039;t delete anything. If I did, it was an accident because someone posted right in the middle of text it wasn&#039;t meant to be in the middle of. Not signing my posts doesn&#039;t make me retarded since it&#039;s blatant when I&#039;m saying something. --[[User:67.159.44.88]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually - come to think of it, you make fun of the idea that anyone running a site can be Nazi, yet you still mention you got banned from many forums. Does that perhaps mean that you genuinely got banned for being an asshole and not opposing the staff/local clique like I did?&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:Not true, some things are auto-ban.  I don&#039;t think you &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; any of them, but I&#039;m just saying.&lt;br /&gt;
:Dude- you got an expedited ban because you showed no signs of contrition, argued every point, used personal insults, refused to sign your posts even when &#039;&#039;&#039;repeatedly asked to&#039;&#039;&#039; (I had to go back into history and dig out which incoherent chunks of text where yours, because the posts weren&#039;t hierarchied properly so the debate was really hard to follow.  This is why signin posts is important dumbfuck.)&lt;br /&gt;
:And ultimately you got banned because you were making a major nuisance of yourself in &#039;&#039;without&#039;&#039; any correlating &#039;&#039;&#039;contribution&#039;&#039;&#039; to justify keeping you around.  You&#039;re a negative.  You edited 3 articles- Fandom, Shortpacking and Ruined Forever- and &#039;&#039;all&#039; of those edits got reverted because they either flames or crappy jokes that make the articles &#039;&#039;worse&#039;&#039;.  Even if I were to (generously) believe you didn&#039;t intend to start a fight, you picked the 3 flamebaitiest articles you could find and masturbated across them.  &#039;&#039;Allah forfend&#039;&#039; you should write an &#039;&#039;episode summary&#039;&#039; or something.&lt;br /&gt;
:Unrelated- Walky can Talk:Fandom be semi-protected instead of full?  Loserbot isn&#039;t registered. -[[User:Derik|Derik]]01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==On an unrelated note: Thank you.==&lt;br /&gt;
I know this is an odd place to say it, but I figured if I only said it once, it wouldn&#039;t be a bother so here goes: Thank You. Shortpacked is hilarious, and when not laughing, I&#039;m agreeing with alot of the statements the main character makes. (and feeling like I was the only one who noticed some of them, like the one about General Discussions.) I also noticed your a Hot Shot fan, which is also awesome. I also noticed its due to the efforts of you and other people here that the move was made from Wikia to Tfwiki, which was a good idea so I also want to say a long overdue thank you for doing that as well, and finally: thanks for doing what you can for this site, because without this site, I&#039;d be out of the loops on Club Exclusive things, and other Misc. Transformers related content. I go here frequently for information (or lolz) and I&#039;m quite sure not only me but many others are grateful to you and all others who help contribute to this place.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks, and we do our best!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:08, 4 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I love it too. Ive been going through the archives and im up to the part where amber gets a bit of a makeover and ive loved every second of it --[[User:Mrgalvaprime|Mrgalvaprime]] 17:25, 14 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry to bother you (I tried to avoid saying something again sense I already did the &#039;Thank  you&#039; earlier, but I HAD to ask about this). Had nothing better to do so I&#039;ve been reading shortpacked&#039;s full archive beginning to end today. (Well I&#039;m currently on July 6 2009 to be fair) and I noticed something that I just HAD to ask about. I&#039;ve noticed once you mentioned Oklahoma. I ignored it the first time but then later you said &amp;quot;Tulsa&amp;quot;. Now you got me curious, because I live in Tulsa and thus wondered what made you decide to choose to mention here of all places, sense basically nothing ever happens here. (Aside from the occasional Convention and the recent BOK center. Granted I may be moving to Florida in a few years..I really  hope so. Been here my whole life and its boring) Just thought I&#039;d ask, before curiosity drove me nuts. Keep up the good work on the comic, peace.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDIT: haha on second thought..maybe I should&#039;ve said this at Walkypedia..or do you even go there? (I&#039;d assume you do.) Oh well, my mistake I guess. Hope you&#039;ll still answer my question regardless. lol--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]&lt;br /&gt;
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You said: &amp;quot;We revert that back to Starscream every time you change it for a reason.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:Well that&#039;s just great since that is my first contribution to that page.  And the picture itself says Skywarp so I was just making both consistent.  I&#039;ll change the pic to Starscream as well.--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 11:22, 14 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Ah, sorry.  Got you confused with Blackout, who was also changing it to Skywarp.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:28, 14 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: No prob.  Just re-uploaded the image with starscream in the name rather than skywarp.  The old one now has the delete tag.  Thanks. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 11:33, 14 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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More vandalism, on Nekomimi A/B, section animated..I think? caption didn&#039;t seem right..&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello Walky. This is Archaic, webmaster of Pokémon fansite Bulbagarden, and its associated wiki Bulbapedia. I sent you an email about 2 weeks ago (to the address linked on both your webcomics) regarding an idea I&#039;ve recently been playing around with of a co-operative of independent wikis. I understand that you&#039;ve been rather busy recently, so I just wanted to check if you had received that email or not, and if you might be interested in contributing your thoughts to the matter? --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 20:24, 25 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I did receive it!  I&#039;m sorry for not answering swiftly.  Our answer depends on how much interaction you are looking for.  Part of the appeal of leaving Wikia was breaking free of the mandatory link chain to &amp;quot;related wikis&amp;quot; that they put at the bottom of our frontpage.  Our frontpage is now our own.  That&#039;s not something I think we&#039;re interested in.  We are, though, all in favor of people starting up their own wikis instead of depending on those lying Wikia assmongers.  (to coin a phrase)  But, I can&#039;t speak for the people here who help maintain this wiki and how much they would be willing to lend a hand.  So, uh, the answer to your question at the moment is: &amp;quot;I don&#039;t know?&amp;quot;  Um.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:47, 25 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Heh, no worries. We&#039;re all fairly busy at this time of year. For now, we&#039;re going full steam ahead with a limited version of this idea, focusing specifically on wikis linked to Nintendo franchises, which we&#039;re likely to launch within a couple of weeks. Perhaps it might be easiest if I&#039;m able to show you what we&#039;re doing there? While we&#039;re doing quite a bit of integration between the partner wikis for this limited network, I&#039;d imagine that any more general grouping of independent wikis would have to be a lot less so, if only for logistical reasons. As I mentioned in the email, it&#039;s all fairly up in the air right now. A lot of brainstorming, but not a lot of actual action at this point. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 15:15, 26 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If I may weigh in... basically, while I wager most (if not all) of us are individually supportive of any wikis that break free of Wikia, when it comes to linking on this wiki we generally only stick to links that add information to our articles, such as TFU.info, Marvel Universe TF profiles, Wookieepedia and GI Joe sites for Star Wars and GI Joe crossovers, etc. So unless there&#039;s some crossover connection between Pokemon and TF that we missed, I don&#039;t see that we can help, because we don&#039;t have anything that would need a link to your wiki. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:35, 26 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::What, not even with that page you have on Pokéformers? ;) Seriously though, I think you might have misunderstood what I was suggesting. I&#039;m not looking at a 2-way affiliation or link here. Instead, what I&#039;ve been investigating is much closer to what Walky has in Blank Label Comics for his webcomics. An alliance of wikis united by a common purpose. Exactly how far one would take that is the real question. I certainly wouldn&#039;t expect a link to every wiki in such a network on the front page of any wiki in it. As you&#039;ve rightly pointed out, you value the independence you&#039;ve regained after breaking from Wikia, and any such network would have to be very careful to maintain that for all sites while still offering something meaningful. *shrugs* Like I said, all very much pie-in-the-sky kind of vague ideas right now, just exploring possibilities. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 20:47, 26 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I don&#039;t know if you&#039;ve heard, but wikia has decided to make a change (mandatorily!) that is 100 times worse than what drove you guys to a new server. I am interested in finding info on how you guys actually performed your move, and what would need to be done before, during, and after to make it work. If you could give me even a link (so that I can show others), that would be hugely helpful.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If you could message me on my wikia talk page (yes, I know), that would be most appreciated. Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 10:18, 28 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: &#039;&#039;Hey, were you the [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_5&amp;amp;diff=414380&amp;amp;oldid=413827 guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason], and so then he [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/593224.html?thread=14980936#t14980936 quit this wiki] because he was treated like shit?  You don&#039;t get a vote.  Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin&#039; river.  (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Yes because he was considering the entry was as bare and snarky as possible (You&#039;re hardly the soul of discretion all the time yourself sir) . And remarkably, being from a good distance across the planet, I don&#039;t know where everything is situated on that side of the world so the assumption of he ran into a river instead of the atlantic ocean, while my own fault I&#039;ll admit, is fairly understandable. But if I&#039;m not aloud to voice my opinion cause a guy you don&#039;t know told you something about another guy you don&#039;t know, then tell me now please, save me trying to vote on something again. (I&#039;m being completely serious by the way, if that&#039;s the case, I want to know). All the best.  [[User:Eire]] 01.33 Feb 09 2010 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: When your opinion is &amp;quot;the guy who created this page is a schmuck,&amp;quot; then you&#039;re probably going to get some flak for said opinion.  It&#039;s not like the page was horribly put together.  It was just abbreviated and snarky.  It wasn&#039;t called for.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:52, 8 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guess who&#039;s back..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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: Remind me who he is, again?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:54, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:Masterman555]]. Banned for flaming and using a sockpuppet. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:01, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Then bye-bye, then! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:15, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn&#039;t Topspin the one with no personality? (Or was it a ref to Breakaway being Mister Likes-Everyone-Nice-Guy?) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:13, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Topspin doesn&#039;t like being used, and ripped Kickback&#039;s spark out of him in angry fury.  That&#039;s more than Breakaway ever emoted.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:16, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Plus, his utter devotion to Alpha Trion was also more characterization than Breakaway got. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:19, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fair enough... it&#039;s just that since Topspin was always the one with the &amp;quot;No personality&amp;quot; cracks in his page (and the one who&#039;s profile specifically says he&#039;s had his personality and will crushed out) it seemed potentially out of place, so I figured I&#039;d ask.&lt;br /&gt;
:::(Personally I admit I wouldn&#039;t claim Breakaway (who did a fair bit of pep-talking everyone) has no personality any more than Heatwave, who&#039;s equally easy-going, friendly, and optimistic, can be said to not have one, but I was more checking for possible mistakes than taste...)  --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:47, 11 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== RE: Divebomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hup, my bad. Thanks for catching that! [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 11:06, 22 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for color correcting it, looks much better. My desktop bit the dust last week, and my netbook chokes on photoshop. [[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 01:22, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m shocked you haven&#039;t put up BC Breakdown yet. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:34, 8 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I just put up *a* Breakdown.  Really, I&#039;d prefer to stick to art rather than toy images.  Spark was an adrenaline rush exception.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:34, 8 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I can&#039;t think of a suitable title to put here right now..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Special:Log/block&amp;amp;page=User:Jeysie|This seems rather uncalled for.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your attention. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:38, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Maybe you should have brought it up during the twenty-four hours in which she was banned, and not like a few minutes before it expired.  And it was certainly called for, considering the disrespect she was showing other users.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:15, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You called her a bitch.  Was that not disrespectful as well? - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:43, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think that was just me making an obvious point about her having talk page conversations &#039;&#039;entirely about other posters&#039;&#039;.  As usual, I make my points through sarcasm.  Jeysie wasn&#039;t being sarcastic or trying to illustrate a greater point when she told me to stop &amp;quot;mouthing off.&amp;quot;  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:21, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m not upset about being banned. What I am upset about is that the reason it&#039;s so irritating trying to have a conversation with you is that you are constantly responding to people trying to make reasonable points with mocking rude responses, often ones that illustrate that the point was missed. So, I don&#039;t like &#039;&#039;your&#039;&#039; disrespectful attitude any more than you like mine.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Considering you actually make good points on the few occasions you turn off the mocking attitude and take the time to understand the points being made, it&#039;d make dealing with you a whole lot less frustrating if you&#039;d keep the attitude turned off all the time. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:57, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Ahahaha Jeysie is telling me to stop having a mocking attitude!  I will mark that on my Jeysie-is-condescending calendar OH WAIT THERE IS NO ROOM --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:21, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Can we stop this?  Both of you?  You&#039;re both highly devoted editors to this wiki and we don&#039;t need a long lasting feud.  Pretty Please? --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 17:28, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The kids don&#039;t like it when mommy and daddy fight.... --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:36, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Seconded. This is time and energy better spent on working on articles, and I&#039;ve seen enough from both of you to know that it would benefit the wiki greatly if you did that. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 17:40, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::If Walky drops the attitude problem, there won&#039;t &#039;&#039;be&#039;&#039; a feud, because I&#039;ll have nothing to comment on to him, which will make me very happy.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The only reason I say anything at all is because I&#039;m tired of his attitude always making trying to discuss something on the wiki a stressful chore instead of something productive. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:44, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::This is silly. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:48, 9 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Response to Walky: Maybe you&#039;re not aware, but I am on a different continent than you are. Different continent = different time zone = inability to respond at the same time as you Americans. And don&#039;t even TRY to shift the blame. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 05:07, 10 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New bot==&lt;br /&gt;
Can I get a bot tag for [[User:DNAVI]] please? abates said you were the man for the job. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 02:25, 15 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Regarding TG Studios and the guy you banned ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Talk:TG Studios|You may want to check this out.]] --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:33, 29 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can you make Timelines sharkticon on wirte and put on a image ?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Squiggles! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If by &amp;quot;squiggles&amp;quot;, you mean &amp;quot;Japanese&amp;quot;, toss me a copy of that translation, eh, my fine fellow? For the annotations, don&#039;tcha know! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:30, 5 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: In the filecard for Primal Major and Alpha Supreme, Maggie translated the two non-English characters at the end of it, which mean &amp;quot;Shanghai.&amp;quot;  That&#039;s all she&#039;s done (per my specific request), so I don&#039;t have anything else to tell you. :) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:35, 5 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ahh, that&#039;s still cool! I wouldn&#039;t have figured it out on my own! I have spotted at least one or two other bits of Japanese in there and was going to pester Spengler about them anyway. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:40, 5 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== King Starscream&#039;s bounty ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So, do I get it if I turn myself in? - [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 12:55, 2 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Look! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You suck! Along with most of the other administartors on this wiki. I can&#039;t believe you treat people the way you do. I&#039;ve been watching for a while, and I will tell you, that you&#039;re just an asshole! Why don&#039;t you grow up, and quit being a dick to everyone! Banning people for ridiculous reasons! Telling people their work is shit! In fact, I created this account just to confront you! GROW UP AND QUIT BEING A DICK! YOU&amp;quot;RE AN ASSHOLE! {{unsigned|Generations123|17:32, 11 August 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:The irony is staggering. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:40, 11 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think this guy deserves a Shortpacked! comic in his honor.--[[Special:Contributions/65.11.250.113|65.11.250.113]] 19:26, 29 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== My sandboxes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hiya David, I was wondering if you will take a look at my improved Primes sandbox (not that I&#039;m suggesting to retitle the article or anything, it&#039;s just the whim of my user space). I hadn&#039;t realized Marvel never uses the number 13, as it&#039;s been years since I read &amp;quot;Legacy of Unicron&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Primal Scream&amp;quot;, one takes these things for granted now. Also, regarding Alpha Trion, I finally have a response again to yesterday&#039;s chat, I feel we can compromise on this: the only thing bugging people about him being a multiversal singularity is SG. As you suggested, we should wait: we should wait to see if Forest or Hasbro explain his actions in that continuity or if multiversal singularities don&#039;t apply to mirrorverses like SG and that Alpha is truely unique from the original Prime who&#039;s more likely than not the one from G1/RID/UT/TA/ROTF/WFC. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:08, 12 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scan request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since I can&#039;t find my copy of it at the minute, and since I know you had it out recent to scan that image of Rodimus Prime that&#039;s on the main page at the moment, might I trouble you to scan the panel from the third issue of the Marvel movie adaptation that features Hot Rod with a handful of energon sticks? On Junkion, when he&#039;s trying the universal greeting. Thanks! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 04:59, 30 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ultra Magnus ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we need to rewrite the Dreamwave section. It&#039;s kind of old TFwiki there with the super-condensed summary and lack of links to individual issues. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:04, 30 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Daleks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Listen, if you want behind the scenes proof, When the Daleks first appeared in Doctor Who, they were called Daleks, Davros calling the casing Mark 3 Travel Machine never happed until the time of the Forth Doctor. The information on the page is WRONG.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and by the way, Davros if a Doctor Who character. Detour is giving us information from fiction too. The comment is wrong.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:22, 16 October 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Something that might be of interest to the TFWiki... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think you&#039;ll find [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/original-g1-scripts-designs-other-items-on-heritage-auction/20162/ this] to be rather interesting, as it may contain certain materials that would be decent additions to this Wiki. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:39, 8 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Thanks.  I took some screencaps where I could.  We should tell [[Jim Sorenson]] these exist and maybe he has a million dollars.  (Or maybe just a hundred.  Not many bids on these, and who the hell even knows this auction site exists?)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:33, 8 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That site had some of the live-action movie props being auctioned either last year or earlier this year, IIRC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:45, 8 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Should I/we let him know in his [[User talk:Jimsorenson|User Talk page]] about this? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:09, 9 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Question &amp;amp; request==&lt;br /&gt;
How come we should keep &amp;quot;Junkion trader&amp;quot;? I wouldn&#039;t know of a source that makes it a canon designation and before the article even had the noname-nickname template. So, why keep a made-up name that&#039;s no longer needed?&lt;br /&gt;
: Also, if you have &#039;&#039;The Complet Ark&#039;&#039;, could you add an image of adult Chip Chase to his article? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:15, 14 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Isn&#039;t &amp;quot;Junkion trader&amp;quot; from a magazine or something?  I don&#039;t think we made it up.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:43, 14 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I can&#039;t say anything about magazines (though I&#039;d wonder which magazine would bother to mention such an obscure &amp;quot;character&amp;quot;), but mostly, Derik, who made the article, had it marked as &amp;quot;nickname&amp;quot; from the start and left a reason for naming Junkion 1 &amp;quot;Junkion trader&amp;quot; on the Omniverse talk page. Altogether, I think it&#039;s not canon in any capacity. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:49, 14 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*clenches fist*  &#039;&#039;Derik&#039;&#039;!!  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:50, 14 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Another request (Junkion related)==&lt;br /&gt;
I figure that before I completely lose my sight looking for Junkion models in a sea of red &amp;amp; random, I should ensure someone will move the Junkion articles (currently 3) I&#039;ve been writing to their proper location. Would you be so kind? If the articles aren&#039;t clear enough on which model/character is described, there&#039;s a small extra description in the mainpic temapltes (that I just figured out don&#039;t show up on the actual page). Pretty please? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:40, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t own the Complete Ark, so it will have to wait for someone to divulge that information.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:49, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: :( Well, I guess I could try pestering Sorenson about it. Sorry for bothering you. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:55, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I have the Complete Ark, but I&#039;m finding your descriptions a little vague. I think I&#039;d need screen shots or comic panels or whatever to work out who you&#039;re talking about. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:06, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::As I said, the mainpic template contains a &amp;quot;screenshot description&amp;quot; that should make it possible to track who is who. Otherwise, [[:Image:TFTM Junkions.JPG|the three most in front in order are: kisser, double-eye and mouthplate]]. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:09, 17 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Talk:Bulkhead (Prime) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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But every other kind of comment is allowed including swearing. The whole point of discussion pages is to discuss despite whether you think it&#039;s a waste. If it was in the wrong place then you should have said. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 09:46, 29 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: &amp;quot;He looks kind of purple when he&#039;s under certain lighting&amp;quot; is not something that&#039;s worth discussing.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:43, 29 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This might silence those who question the WFC/Exodus/Prime continuity ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We finally have [http://www.unicron.com/news_item/2462/ official word] straight from the mouth of Hasbro itself that War for Cybertron, Exodus, and Prime are indeed in the same aligned continuity. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:16, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:So... exactly what we had BEFORE. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:24, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, but, now we can point nonbelievers to the words directly, instead of them having to just take our word for it. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:33, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So... exactly what we had BEFORE. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:39, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::On this very wiki: [[Hasbro_Q%26A/September_2010:_Answers]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:06, 8 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I Am Sorry ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey look, I am here to apologize for the crap I have been saying. I was acting like a jerk for a while to you and It has really been haunting me recently. I know I need to work on my grammer, and I actually shouldn&#039;t posting anything since I am only in my second year in High School, and to be honest, I have only been a fan of TF for 9 years. I have really been a jerk recently and I just want to have a clean start now. I hope you understand. I am sorry, in other words, for all the crap I put you and this sight through.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 14:02, 22 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Walky..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
Care to tell me why you have blocked my IP? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 06:11, 23 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:ItsWalky blocked your IP because of that Goldbug (IDW) toy deal of a few days ago. He may not have realized you were a regular contributor, but regardless, you should&#039;ve started a third/fourth debate rather than declare the first two void because their results don&#039;t strike with your view on &amp;quot;reality&amp;quot;. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 06:20, 23 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I blocked the anonymous IP who got into the edit war over removing Goldbug&#039;s toy info, which was just fucking obnoxious.  If that was you, then whoops.  Don&#039;t be a dickwad.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:16, 23 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== You have Lugnut? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve heard about you reviewing him, did you obtain him at a Brick &amp;amp; Mortar store like Walmart or Target?  If so, which one (so the hunt may go on).  Or was it through eBay/&amp;quot;specialty&amp;quot; store, or overseas?  Moreso I&#039;m wondering if the &amp;quot;not yet released&amp;quot; tag should still be applied to the Hasbro version on [[Lugnut (TF 2010)|his page]]. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 23:28, 11 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I got him from Big Bad Toy Store.  He has been seen in stores, but like many other toys these days, he&#039;s having trouble hitting saturation.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:45, 12 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aw look==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Willis_(cartoonist)_(2nd_nomination) Your Wikipedia page is up for deletion].&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, a nomination you started. Big effing whup. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:04, 9 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Which is why it got a SpeedyKeep and the deletion tag is already gone.  Nice try.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:52, 9 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Generations Scourge ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ohhh, yes, I see now. I didn&#039;t realise that his head could extend so far up. I thought it was just the normal extension for his robot mode. Bit of a pain to push back down, though...&lt;br /&gt;
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Anyway, I apologise.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 16:40, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for backing me up on the bolded-comma issue.  I knew all those things people said about you couldn&#039;t be true!  [[User:JW|JW]] 16:24, 21 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==A week?==&lt;br /&gt;
Don&#039;t you think that&#039;s a bit long for a regular editor to be banned? Far as I can tell, he didn&#039;t even get a warning. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:58, 29 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: It&#039;s not his first week-long ban.  And he&#039;s been warned (and banned) about this behavior before.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:07, 29 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don&#039;t you think that&#039;s a bit short since that&#039;s about the only thing he does? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 13:11, 29 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Iacon Archives==&lt;br /&gt;
Looking through the history of &amp;quot;Laserbeak (Cybertron)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Revelations Part 3&amp;quot;, I see you were the one who called the archives the &#039;Iacon Archives&#039;. Where did you get this name from, as it is not in the comics? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:45, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: The archives appeared to be in Iacon.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:17, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Could you elaborate on &amp;quot;appeared&amp;quot;? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:02, 21 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: Everything in the story happened in Iacon.  Or under Iacon.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:43, 21 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Not really, since Vector Prime and co. first hang out at Kalis and Kaon also gets namedropped at some point. So... I guess that means the Archives&#039; location can&#039;t be pinpointend any better than &amp;quot;somewhere on Cybertron&amp;quot;. Thanks for helping me! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:14, 21 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New User==&lt;br /&gt;
There I did everything you said also I don&#039;t know how to use user pages so I hope i&#039;m doing this right.[[User:Chubzhac|Chubzhac]] 23:35, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it ok to use external links for titles such as &#039;&#039;Star Trek: Leonard McCoy, Frontier Doctor&#039;&#039;? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 00:15, 31 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: In what context?  I&#039;d really rather prefer most external links remain in the External links section.  I kinda hate when I click on a link in the body of an article, thinking there&#039;ll be something relevant on this site, only to be taken elsewhere. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 31 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s a little contradictory since there are external links all over this site that isn&#039;t in the External Links section. So what specifically don&#039;t you like about it? Being misled into thinking you&#039;re going onto Lindsey Lohan&#039;s Wikipedia article, but instead go to Mandy Moore&#039;s? (or something like that) What I meant exactly was that in almost every issue&#039;s page there&#039;s an Advertisment section showing what else is from the same publisher (that&#039;s why I used &#039;&#039;Star Trek&#039;&#039; as an example). So could some of those advertisments have an external link to another wiki site that would specialise (or have more insight) in that particular title. I hope that was a little more straight foward and maybe a little easier to understand. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 13:16, 1 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Probation appeal ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So, the incident that led to my probation was proposing that [[Dead End (Animated)]] move to &amp;quot;Dead End (Timelines)&amp;quot; on the basis that that was his franchise-of-origin. I brought the issue up on the Allspark&#039;s &amp;quot;Major Wiki work&amp;quot; thread because I had no idea why it was reverted and I couldn&#039;t talk about it here (because of the probation thing). [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&amp;amp;showtopic=51208&amp;amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=1825571 The conclusion seemed to be] that I was &#039;&#039;technically&#039;&#039; correct, but the Wiki just didn&#039;t want to do it that way.&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|The idea of moving the BotCon-exclusive Animated characters to a &amp;quot;Timelines&amp;quot; disambig is just one of those occasional instances where the instruction to &amp;quot;[[Help:Ignore all standards|ignore all standards]]&amp;quot; comes into play. Sometimes, it&#039;s just easier, more aesthetically pleasing, or just feels RIGHT to do things a certain way that may not be the way everything else is done.|[[Chris McFeely]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
I went about everything the right way, as far as I know. I put one move proposal tag on one page so it could be talked about. I gave a technically correct reason, &amp;quot;Franchise of origin. Like [[Cop-Tur (Timelines)]]&amp;quot;. I do my best to remember to not do what I have been hollered at for doing in the past, but seriously, I had no way of knowing I was stepping into an instance of &amp;quot;ignore all standards&amp;quot;. All you really had to do was revert my one move proposal with a big &amp;quot;We are ignoring all standards you moron!&amp;quot; in the change log. You would have felt better for hollering at me and I would have been clued in on what was going on and that would have been the end of it. So, can I please have my probation lifted? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:59, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==When the past comes to haunt you==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Vector Sigma Chamber]] - I have no clue how it could be written so that it&#039;s significantly different from the Vector Sigma page. You&#039;ve stated you believe it could be an article with its own worth. If you have time, would you please give the page its long needed update?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile, I have never been able to track down the source that the &#039;&#039;[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]&#039;&#039; is Shockwave&#039;s underwater base in the Marvel comics. You and Derik talked about the source being one of the letters pages, but would you have any idea which issue&#039;s letters page?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
As an aside, [[TFWiki.net 2011 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries|this page]] is locked, which would be all fine and stuff if not for the handful of article links that can not be fixed anymore. Could you please remove all of them? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:32, 15 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New and ticked off ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m new here. I have taken your suggestions into account, but there is one thing that still bothers me: no one else wants to help me. Can you lend a hand? --[[User:Ibreakthingz|The Breaker]] 19:24, 15 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nope - Random IP number&lt;br /&gt;
::What do you need help with? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:54, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Let me tell you, I am SUPER excited to help the guy who starts off by telling me he&#039;s ticked off.   --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:03, 20 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Oh man, sorry ==&lt;br /&gt;
I don&#039;t see any comments, only some guy asking about how the info and description of Cybertron should be. Sorry about the confusion. I actually don&#039;t think that I ever reverted it back O.o I don&#039;t remember that, I must have clicked on some wrong place or something. Again, sorry fellow Transformer-fan :) [[User:Luka1184|Luka1184]] 11:15, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dark of the Moon: Ship? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What exactly did they use to explore the moon then? Just wondering, thanks. [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 02:22, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: The novelization calls the ship Ratchet and Optimus Prime take to the moon the &amp;quot;Atlax X,&amp;quot; a human-built craft.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:45, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Whoops, what I meant to say was what did Optimus and Ratchet use to recover the comatose (boy I love that word after seeing it on Tfwiki) body of Sentinel? [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 03:00, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, in the finished film, they &#039;&#039;do&#039;&#039; use the Xantium to go to the moon. Prime announces in a voiceover at the beginning of the scene, &amp;quot;Xantium approaching Tranquility base&amp;quot;. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:42, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It feels weird, then, that they only really introduce the ship much later in the movie.--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:34, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Quite agreed. Seems fairly obvious that it was originally going to be a human-built endeavour (it&#039;s the &amp;quot;Ares V&amp;quot; in the comic), but then someone said &amp;quot;Why do they need a human rocket if our script already features a pre-existing Autobot spaceship as a plot point?&amp;quot;, and it got shoved in earlier without any real reworking of the later intro scene. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:38, 5 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Evac (Prime) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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At SDCC announced two new figures for a character called Evac, from the Prime franchise, should we wait until he makes an appearance in the show to create his own article? --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 20:58, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Remember, one doesn&#039;t have to appear in the show to get a toy. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:03, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I could have sworn that Evac was supposed to be a character for the new Transformers ride...[[Special:Contributions/98.209.73.178|98.209.73.178]] 21:28, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He&#039;s not from Prime, correct.  He&#039;s a new character created for the movie-based Transformers ride at Universal.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:23, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I need to tell you something. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi. There&#039;s something that I&#039;ve been feeling a bit guilty about for a long time. You see, on a different account (which I will reveal the name of after you respond to make sure there are no hard feelings) I was quite rude. I was irrational, confused and upset. Afterwards, I left this site in guilt, and ashamed because I wasn&#039;t thinking rationally a few times while on my account. Do you think you can maybe accept my apology for my actions, because I feel like a horrible person for the silly things I brought up and got into. Would you please accept my apology? If you can&#039;t, well, that&#039;s okay too. If you don&#039;t get this, well, I just wanted to say I&#039;m sorry for being such a horrible person on such a good website. :( &lt;br /&gt;
[[Special:Contributions/74.82.64.16|74.82.64.16]] 15:27, 28 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guilt ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I was thinking about my previous heading &amp;quot;I need to tell you something&amp;quot; and I reliezed that although I ment it in a kind way, I thought it&#039;s possible that you could believe that to mean that I had some cruel things to say, which I did not. The message is still the same though! If it means anything, I would like to say you can be sure nothing like that could happen again with me. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Special:Contributions/74.82.64.17|74.82.64.17]] 16:05, 28 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t know who you are, but I guess we&#039;re all right.  It&#039;s hard to refuse an apology from an anonymous dude.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:12, 29 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Harrison Ford ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Was it rude? Horrifying even? Why did you undo my edit? An external reference isn&#039;t to much to ask for. Is it? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 19:39, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I addressed this on the talk page.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:55, 13 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Files on user pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed the images from my user page because of fair use, but nobody had removed them in the meantime because of this. So did I do right by taking them off or can I put them back? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 19:46, 23 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t really understand what you&#039;re asking.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:35, 23 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Let&#039;s try this again. On another wiki I added a pic to [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Anythingspossibleforapossible&amp;amp;oldid=39022 my user page] and it was [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Anythingspossibleforapossible&amp;amp;action=history removed]. [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Thailog#Using files on your own user page This is the reply I got when I inquired further]. If you still don&#039;t understand I&#039;ll just put them back. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 18:11, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Over here, you&#039;re allowed to upload one pic specifically for your userpage. On top of that, from what I gather, you can add other pics that already exist for article, but obviously don&#039;t go overboard. Hope that helps! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:10, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Thank you. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 18:11, 24 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I noticed the BotCon Europe 2002 talk page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Selective_deletion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Just being helpful. :) --[[User:Krafty|K-K-Krafty!]] 10:22, 11 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== About the caption bastard template... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not understand why you added that (mean-spirited) template. It&#039;s only two captions, and if you looked at my contributions, you would have noticed that I added a lot of information. I thought captions were supposed to be a reward for all that work. Adding a twist on an overused joke is at least an attempt to make it fresh, rather than stating some variation of &amp;quot;this joke sucks now&amp;quot;, which is &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; as overused as plainly using an overused joke. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 19:41, 6 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I apologize for using the template.  I was going to write a more personal note, but remembered we had the template, forgetting how sharply worded it was.  You have not been a bad editor.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:42, 6 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==A massive favour to ask==&lt;br /&gt;
Ive just started getting into your webcomics (im up to date on shortpacked and it wasnt until this morning i realised about you&#039;re earlier ones) but i have a huge favour to ask of you. I am currntly stuck with this stupid school laptop for a home computer which includes a school blocking system. While Shortpacked and Joyce and Walky sites are unaffected when i try to open dumbing of age it comes up with&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Examplepagetoshowwalky.jpg|left|500px|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Is there anyway you could perhaps email me copies of the files for each update + all the ones so far. I can understand if you say no but i though there was no harm in asking--[[User:Mrgalvaprime|Mrgalvaprime]] 06:15, 17 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I&#039;m sorry, but I cannot email you all my comics.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:12, 1 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Prime toys ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You wouldn&#039;t happen to know when exactly the &#039;&#039;Transformers: Prime&#039;&#039; toys are scheduled to be released, would you?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 19:59, 1 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Transformers toys that aren&#039;t the first wave of product for a blockbuster movie don&#039;t tend to have release dates.  Stores will receive them and put them out at some point after that.  So I have no date for you.  However, I&#039;ve seen them out at some stores here for weeks, so the answer is &amp;quot;some time in the past, perhaps now, perhaps not until the future.&amp;quot;  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:10, 1 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I haven&#039;t seen any toys in the stores, but thanks anyway.[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 21:44, 1 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The other convention-exclusive pink Arcee figure, they are availible on the web. How would I be able to get it without getting lead into a scam. I was hoping you or someone on this wiki would know how I would be able to get that toy. I didn&#039;t go to the convention.[[Special:Contributions/71.162.106.122|71.162.106.122]] 19:24, 4 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transformers-prime-bumblebee-and-arcee-set?BR=496&amp;amp;ID=29273 --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:58, 5 March 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wow! Only $29.99. Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
:::On Ebay, it costs $80.00.&lt;br /&gt;
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== what you said to me ==&lt;br /&gt;
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i will make sure i learn more english when i go to school today&lt;br /&gt;
: Mostly I hope they teach you about capital letters and punctuation.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:02, 19 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It&#039;s kind of hard to do that all when you&#039;re using a wii like I am [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 02:08, 19 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: If you&#039;re editing the wiki with something that makes it nigh-impossible to edit the wiki, you probably shouldn&#039;t edit the wiki.  I&#039;ve tried it on my cellphone before, and it&#039;s extremely difficult to get all of the various coding right, but if I can&#039;t edit the wiki correctly, I just don&#039;t edit the wiki.  Leaving a bunch of stuff that has to be deleted or completely overhauled is worse than not contributing at all.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:54, 19 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Fallen/Megatronus Prime artwork ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted to have someone verify this before I uploaded it, but is [http://t4ak.roblox.com/daaf9f4eb9b33f115661eb4a7c849007 this] the concept art for the &#039;&#039;Aligned&#039;&#039; pre-Fallen version of Megatronus Prime, and if so is is usable? --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 15:23, 10 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: That&#039;s not exactly what we saw at Hasbro&#039;s panels.  It&#039;s not in the same style.  (It&#039;d look more like the Aligned Prima art, which is way more painterly.)  This looks like an artist&#039;s recreation from memory to me.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:07, 10 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, just what I needed to know.  Off to search again. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:53, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Pictures were not allowed of those guys.  If you somehow manage to find one, we wouldn&#039;t be able to use it.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:15, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Gotcha.  Thanks anyway. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 21:37, 17 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Prime Hot Shot toy image ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not really sure why you replaced the photos that I already took for the toy with your own, (which are kind of faded, especially with the red) but whatever. Just kind of wondering why, though. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Well, there go my efforts... :/&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 23:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: M Sipher overwrote my Kick-Over photos.  It happens.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:33, 7 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reno Wilson ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If I sound impatient, I&#039;m sorry, but I&#039;ve explained the reasoning behind my edit to the Mudflap controversy several times over, and nobody has disagreed with me.  A couple users explained what it&#039;s supposed to mean, but it turns out that it&#039;s based on an incorrect assumption to begin with.  Both times that I&#039;ve I changed it, though, the edit has been reverted without an explanation.  If this is about my spate of edits to my own comments, then I&#039;m sorry, but I&#039;m just editing a minor note to be more factually accurate and less obtusely &amp;quot;snarky&amp;quot;.  How can I get it to stick? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:00, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715727</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715727"/>
		<updated>2012-05-13T20:17:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure why one person&#039;s anecdotal evidence is trumping everyone else&#039;s.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow you.  Who&#039;s using anecdotal evidence? (It isn&#039;t me, is it?  The short version is, the note is inaccurate, even as a joke, and the linked article doesn&#039;t actually back it up.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:41, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:...so, if there aren&#039;t any objections, can we take it out?  Or am I missing something? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:49, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In full awareness that I&#039;ve already been warned for over-tweaking my earlier comments -- this wasn&#039;t my first time; I&#039;ll do better in the future -- I&#039;m afraid of being instantly reverted again.  Unless I&#039;ve missed something important, the note in question is factually wrong, difficult to read, based on a faulty premise, and (with apologies to the original editor) not very funny.  Can I safely delete it? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:32, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;d say everyone else disagrees, so you&#039;re outvoted.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:07, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But... &#039;&#039;nobody&#039;&#039; has disagreed.  I was confused at first, asked for an explanation, and it came out that the note is altogether wrong.  After that, when I suggested deleting it, nobody objected.  I&#039;ve &#039;&#039;edited&#039;&#039; it to actually describe what happened and it was reverted again.  What&#039;s the problem? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 16:17, 13 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715564</id>
		<title>Reno Wilson</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-13T02:54:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Notes */ Editing note regarding controversy.  Cited article doesn&amp;#039;t suggest Wilson being offensive to himself.  See discussion (again).&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Renowilson.jpg|right|300px|thumb|SHOW &#039;EM MY MOT-TO!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Roy &amp;quot;Reno&amp;quot; Wilson&#039;&#039;&#039; (born [[January 20]], [[1970]]) is an American character actor, comedian and voice artist.  Some of his better known roles are as Sonny on &#039;&#039;Martin&#039;&#039;, Howard on &#039;&#039;The Cosby Show&#039;&#039;, Officer Carlton &amp;quot;Carl&amp;quot; MacMillan in &#039;&#039;Mike and Molly&#039;&#039;, Orlando in &#039;&#039;Crank&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Crank 2: High Voltage&#039;&#039;, Thirst in the Sprite commercials, Killer Bee in &#039;&#039;Naruto Shippudden&#039;&#039;, Sazh Katzroy in &#039;&#039;Final Fantasy XIII&#039;&#039; (alongside [[Troy Baker]]), and the Black Baron in &#039;&#039;MadWorld&#039;&#039; (which stars [[Steve Blum]] and [[John DiMaggio]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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His voice for Frenzy in the [[Transformers (film)|live-action movie]] was apparently done real-time, without special editing to speed it up or modulate it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Voice roles==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (2007)===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; (2009)===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039; (2011)===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brains|Brains]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* While his role as Mudflap was met with controversy, Wilson was surprised to hear that anyone saw the character as a racial caricature. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/transformers-jivetalking-_n_220005.html The Huffington Post: Transformers&#039; Jive-Talking Robots Raise Race Issues ]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Wilson is the only actor in the series to play a different character in each movie.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0934008/ Reno Wilson at IMDB]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_XmCJ_Z2Y Wilson performs Frenzy&#039;s voice on Youtube.]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Wilson, Reno}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:DreamWorks]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:English voice actors]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715551</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715551"/>
		<updated>2012-05-13T02:32:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure why one person&#039;s anecdotal evidence is trumping everyone else&#039;s.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow you.  Who&#039;s using anecdotal evidence? (It isn&#039;t me, is it?  The short version is, the note is inaccurate, even as a joke, and the linked article doesn&#039;t actually back it up.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:41, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:...so, if there aren&#039;t any objections, can we take it out?  Or am I missing something? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:49, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In full awareness that I&#039;ve already been warned for over-tweaking my earlier comments -- this wasn&#039;t my first time; I&#039;ll do better in the future -- I&#039;m afraid of being instantly reverted again.  Unless I&#039;ve missed something important, the note in question is factually wrong, difficult to read, based on a faulty premise, and (with apologies to the original editor) not very funny.  Can I safely delete it? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:32, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715537</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715537"/>
		<updated>2012-05-13T01:49:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m not sure why one person&#039;s anecdotal evidence is trumping everyone else&#039;s.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow you.  Who&#039;s using anecdotal evidence? (It isn&#039;t me, is it?  The short version is, the note is inaccurate, even as a joke, and the linked article doesn&#039;t actually back it up.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:41, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:...so, if there aren&#039;t any objections, can we take it out?  Or am I missing something? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:49, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715527</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715527"/>
		<updated>2012-05-13T01:41:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m not sure why one person&#039;s anecdotal evidence is trumping everyone else&#039;s.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:33, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow you.  Who&#039;s using anecdotal evidence? (It isn&#039;t me, is it?  The short version is, the note is inaccurate, even as a joke, and the linked article doesn&#039;t actually back it up.) - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:41, 12 May 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=715518</id>
		<title>Reno Wilson</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-13T01:31:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Notes */ See discussion.  Note&amp;#039;s internal logic does not hold up.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Renowilson.jpg|right|300px|thumb|SHOW &#039;EM MY MOT-TO!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Roy &amp;quot;Reno&amp;quot; Wilson&#039;&#039;&#039; (born [[January 20]], [[1970]]) is an American character actor, comedian and voice artist.  Some of his better known roles are as Sonny on &#039;&#039;Martin&#039;&#039;, Howard on &#039;&#039;The Cosby Show&#039;&#039;, Officer Carlton &amp;quot;Carl&amp;quot; MacMillan in &#039;&#039;Mike and Molly&#039;&#039;, Orlando in &#039;&#039;Crank&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Crank 2: High Voltage&#039;&#039;, Thirst in the Sprite commercials, Killer Bee in &#039;&#039;Naruto Shippudden&#039;&#039;, Sazh Katzroy in &#039;&#039;Final Fantasy XIII&#039;&#039; (alongside [[Troy Baker]]), and the Black Baron in &#039;&#039;MadWorld&#039;&#039; (which stars [[Steve Blum]] and [[John DiMaggio]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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His voice for Frenzy in the [[Transformers (film)|live-action movie]] was apparently done real-time, without special editing to speed it up or modulate it.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Voice roles==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (2007)===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; (2009)===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039; (2011)===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brains|Brains]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Wilson is the only actor in the series to play a different character in each movie.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0934008/ Reno Wilson at IMDB]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD_XmCJ_Z2Y Wilson performs Frenzy&#039;s voice on Youtube.]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Wilson, Reno}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:DreamWorks]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:English voice actors]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Darkness_Rising,_Part_5&amp;diff=712884</id>
		<title>Darkness Rising, Part 5</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-03T02:04:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Quotes */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{episode|&lt;br /&gt;
|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]&#039;&#039; ep 5&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Darkness Rising, Part 4&lt;br /&gt;
|next=Masters &amp;amp; Students&lt;br /&gt;
|image=DarknessRising5-OptimusStand.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=Spoilers: the good guys win. &lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Darkness Rising, Part 5&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[December 3]], [[2010]]&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Joseph Kuhr]]&lt;br /&gt;
|directed by=[[Vinton Heuck]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;The Autobots race to stop Megatron from raising an undead army on Cybertron.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarknessRising5-ohgeez.jpg|left|thumb|200px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] imagines in dread what will happen if [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] uses the [[Dark Energon]] to raise an army of [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcons]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and brings them to conquer [[Earth]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jack Darby|Jack]] arrives at [[KO Burger]] and encounters [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]], who muses that her recent loss of a [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|friend]] makes it hard for her to say goodbye to him. The Autobots have pinpointed Megatron&#039;s [[space bridge]] in Earth orbit and must use the [[GroundBridge]] to reach it, despite the risks this poses. Arcee and Jack arrive back in time for Arcee to join the mission, and Optimus leads the team (minus [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]) through the bridge. They land on the space bridge terminal and look up to see the [[Trypticon (Prime)|Decepticon ship]] moving into position. Megatron observes their presence, but [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] says that [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] is locking on to Cybertron&#039;s coordinates.&lt;br /&gt;
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As the Autobots assume attack positions, Arcee notes that the Decepticons haven&#039;t done anything. Optimus scans the ship, and learns that Bulkhead damaged its interstellar navigation dish during [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]]&#039;s rescue. Since a target as far as Cybertron needs pinpoint accuracy, the Decepticons will be unable to use it to aim the space bridge without an alternate targeting system. Raf reasons that the Decepticons may be using a radio dish array in [[Texas]], but Fowler is still too out of it to alert the array staff to the danger. [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]] attempts to hack in, but the array&#039;s firewalls are too good. Jack thinks they should go on site, and they talk Optimus into letting them do it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, Megatron sends out the Decepticon forces to attack the Autobots. Battle commences.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DarknessRising5-RafSoundwave.jpg|thumb|200px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The kids GroundBridge to the array and sneak in. In a small, unused room, Raf finds a computer and determines that the Decepticons have also hacked in, but takes the opportunity to download their space bridge plans onto his flash drive. Little do the kids know that [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] is in the very next room, plugged into the computer system as well. He aligns the array, which sets the space bridge ready to use, but Raf promptly realigns it. Responding to Starscream&#039;s requests to know what&#039;s going on, Soundwave taps into the installation&#039;s security systems and locates the three kids. While the kids are discussing what the Decepticons could do, Soundwave&#039;s tentacle slithers into the room behind them and attacks. As it goes after Raf, [[Miko Nakadai|Miko]] grabs an axe and strikes at it. She hits the tentacle with a clang, but the tentacle then strikes her backward before picking up the axe itself. Though the kids believe it&#039;s about to attack them with the weapon, the tentacle withdraws. The kids run to the next room, where they found Soundwave has realigned the dishes and used the axe to cut the hard line, making it impossible to undo his work. Miko then takes a [[Miko&#039;s phone|cell phone]] photo of Soundwave. Before Soundwave leaves, he takes a photo of them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Starscream activates the space bridge, and Megatron physically throws a huge chunk of Dark Energon through. The Dark Energon strikes Cybertron, swiftly covering the planet and turning millions of dead Transformers into millions of Terrorcons. Optimus realizes that the only course of action left to them is to destroy the space bridge. Raf supplies the specs he downloaded earlier, and Ratchet sets about working out a way to do so with Raf&#039;s help. As Optimus faces Megatron, Bulkhead, Arcee and Bumblebee go to implement some sabotage.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DarknessRising5-Megatronsword.jpg|left|thumb|200px|He can do the &#039;&#039;ultimate&#039;&#039; bird flip.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron manages to defeat Prime, but as he raises his sword, Starscream alerts him to the actions of the other Autobots. Optimus takes advantage of the momentary distraction to block Megatron&#039;s killing blow, and blast him away, but the Decepticon leader transforms and flies off to find Prime&#039;s team. Arcee&#039;s team has succeeded in rigging the space bridge to blow when Megatron attacks and blasts her off into space. The Autobots jump into the GroundBridge, Bumblebee collecting Arcee on the way. Seeing the potential damage the exploding space bridge would cause Starscream decides to pull the ship back, imploring Megatron to do the same. Overcome with regret over the loss of his army of Terrorcons as they begin to come through, the space bridge explodes in Megatron&#039;s face.&lt;br /&gt;
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A short distance away in the ship, Starscream notes that Megatron&#039;s spark is now extinguished and all will hail him.&lt;br /&gt;
The Autobots make it back to their base. Though Arcee&#039;s in bad shape, she makes it out alright. Optimus announces that there&#039;s totally no way Megatron could have survived the space bridge explosion. Fowler thanks the Autobots for saving him, then leaves. Optimus gives a big speech and sends a signal into space to let the galaxy know that Earth is defended by the Autobots.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jack Darby]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Miko Nakadai]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Raf Esquivel]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William Fowler]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcons]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Optimus, if you leave me stranded on a planet teeming with humans, I will never forgive you.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Ratchet&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Optimus Prime never disappoints. Unlike YOU, Starscream!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;, burning a disappointing &#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Surely, Lord Megatron, the Autobots are up to something.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Really, Starscream?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; observes the Autobots and &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; lays on the sarcasm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I hold no illusions about engaging your army, Megatron. But I might derail its objective... [[Decapitation|by removing its head.]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;s&#039;&#039;&#039; [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|solution to most problems]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;One shall stand, one shall fall.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; brings an old line back into style.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ah... misdirection, Optimus. You would have made a fine Decepticon!&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Megatron brings his sword down, but Optimus blocks it)&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I &#039;&#039;chose&#039;&#039; my side.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:-&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; carry on an old disagreement.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Starscream! Where is my ship?!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;We would never make it, Lord Megatron! Don&#039;t be a fool! Take flight and &#039;&#039;retreat&#039;&#039;!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—Showing remarkable amounts of common sense, &#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; urgently yet fruitlessly tries to get &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; to flee the detonating space bridge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Decepticons, it is with deep sorrow that I note for the log... Megatron&#039;s spark... has been extinguished. All. Hail. Starscream.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Starscream&#039;&#039;&#039; praises himself as leader.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Without a means of leaving this world, we Autobots take strength in the bonds we have forged with our three young friends - true warriors. If not in body, then in spirit. My name is Optimus Prime, and I send this message. Though we did not choose to be of Earth, it would seem that we are here to stay. If you approach this planet with hostile intent, know this: We will defend ourselves. We will defend humanity. We will defend... our home.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes== &lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* The Terrorcons are able to leave Cybertron and pass through the space bridge despite the fact that it&#039;s in space. Even accounting for the fact that Decepticon corpses might have flight capabilities, it seems unlikely that every Terrorcon would.&lt;br /&gt;
* Despite Megatron being able to &#039;&#039;cut off half of Prime&#039;s blade&#039;&#039; earlier in their battle, when Optimus resisted, the other blade was nearly as resistant as Megatron&#039;s own blade.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Astronomical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* The Autobots somehow jump from the detonating space bridge straight into the waiting GroundBridge vortex, which is positioned below the space bridge, even though there &#039;&#039;is no gravity in space!&#039;&#039; (Though a possible explanation for this is that the GroundBridge creates its own gravity.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
* There are two references which are directly related to [[The Transformers: The Movie|the 1986 animated movie]]. First Ratchet says, &amp;quot;Then by all means, let us light our [[darkest hour]].&amp;quot;  Later, Optimus exchanges with Megatron: &amp;quot;One shall stand, one shall fall.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Optimus&#039;s Energon blade and Megatron&#039;s hidden fusion cannon blade are references to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)| their movie]] [[Megatron (Movie)|counterparts]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Optimus&#039;s speech at the end is similar to the ones Movie Optimus gives at the end of the three movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarknessRising5-Michelangelo.jpg|thumb|250px|Or it could be another [[Steven Spielberg|Spielberg]] reference.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Miko tries to use an axe on [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]&#039;s tentacle, which is the same tactic Tom Cruise&#039;s character tries on the Tripod tentacle in [[Steven Spielberg]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;. Of course, both attempts fail.&lt;br /&gt;
* Miko refers to space as &amp;quot;the final frontier&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;Space. The final frontier&amp;quot; is the first line of the opening credits of several &#039;&#039;[[Wikipedia: Star Trek|Star Trek]]&#039;&#039; TV shows. &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; show developers [[Alex Kurtzman]] and [[Roberto Orci]] are also the screenwriters of the current &#039;&#039;Star Trek&#039;&#039; movies.&lt;br /&gt;
* Megatron, when he rises out of the Decepticon ship with the boulder of Dark Energon on his back, is clearly meant to evoke the classic [[Wikipedia:Atlas|Atlas]] pose.&lt;br /&gt;
* The shot of Megatron reaching out to a Terrorcon before the space bridge implosion is reminiscent of [[Wikipedia:Michelangelo|Michelangelo]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Wikipedia:The Creation of Adam|The Creation of Adam]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;German&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Die dunkle Macht erhebt sicht, Teil 5&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (The Dark Force Rises, Part 5&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[October 21|21 October]] [[2011]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Hungarian&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Közeleg a sötétség, 5. rész&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;The Darkness Is Nearing, Part 5&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[January 13|13 January]] [[2012]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Italian&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;La rimonta delle tenebre, quinta parte&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;Darkness Rising, Fifth Part&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[October 1|1 October]] [[2011]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Japanese&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Bakuretsu Henkei!  Spacebridge Koubousen&#039;&#039;&#039; (爆裂変形!スペースブリッジ攻防戦, &#039;&#039;Explosive Transformation! Spacebridge Battle&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[May 5]], [[2012]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Korean&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Ak ui Buhwal 5&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (악의 부활 5, &amp;quot;Return of the Evil, Part 5&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[September 12|12 September]] [[2011]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Polish&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[December 9|9 December]] [[2011]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Portuguese&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[November 7|7 November]] [[2011]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Spanish&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;El regreso del mal, Parte 5&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;The Return of Evil, Part 5&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[November 7|7 November]] [[2011]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
* Winged versions of the Vehicons make their appearance here.&lt;br /&gt;
* The Decepticons are unable to simply warp to Cybertron thanks to Bulkhead ripping off a vital piece of equipment in the previous episode.&lt;br /&gt;
* When the kids arrive at the radio array, they note that the place seems deserted. A brief shadowy glimpse of a human slumped against the wall suggests that, like [[Blackout (Movie)| Blackout]], Soundwave isn&#039;t keen on leaving survivors or witnesses.&lt;br /&gt;
* When Starscream tries to convince Megatron to retreat, there is a surprising tone of concern in his voice. Either that, or he&#039;s a much better actor than certain other [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscreams]].&lt;br /&gt;
* A short video showing a rehearsal or an earlier take of the confrontation between Optimus Prime and Megatron was screened at both [[BotCon 2010]] and San Diego Comic-Con 2010.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvW4nsr3ZDo#t=2m53s &amp;quot;Transformers: Prime&amp;quot; panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The dialogue was somewhat different, with Optimus referring to battle on an alien world when ordering the Autobots away, and lacking the &amp;quot;One shall stand, one shall fall&amp;quot; exchange. Instead, it had Megatron shouting Optimus&#039;s name in a rather exaggerated manner.&lt;br /&gt;
*The space battle was an idea [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] had for the [[live-action film series]] but couldn&#039;t incorporate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Pb3MeUDdY Roundtable interview with &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; staff at BotCon 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Footnotes==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Prime episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711361</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711361"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T05:53:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Other articles with people calling him a racist stereotype wouldn&#039;t do anything to substantiate that, and without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711359</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711359"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T05:47:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The note is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides  that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711358</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711358"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T05:44:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The joke is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are (&amp;quot;horrendously&amp;quot;) offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides  that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711357</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711357"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T05:32:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */ Sorry, this should be the last edit to this reply.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The joke is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere, including the article.  Without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides  that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711356</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711356"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T05:26:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The joke is based on the idea that &amp;quot;apparently&amp;quot;, all black people are offended by Mudflap, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere.  Without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711351</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711351"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T05:14:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot; is based on the assumption that, supposedly, some people somewhere think that &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; black people are offended by them, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere.  Without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711350</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711350"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T05:14:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot; is based on the assumption that, supposedly, some people somewhere think that &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; black people are offended by them, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere.  Without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear, intuitive, or -- especially in light of the above -- constructive.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711345</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711345"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T04:55:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We could link to some other articles with people calling them racist stereotypes? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:41, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I don&#039;t see why you would.  The &amp;quot;joke&amp;quot; is based on the assumption that, supposedly, some people somewhere think that &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; black people are offended by them, which I&#039;ve never heard anywhere.  Without that premise, it doesn&#039;t work at all.  Besides that, it isn&#039;t very clear or intuitive in the first place.  I think that it would be better just to delete it. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:55, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711307</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711307"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T03:54:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- now it just sounds to me like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711306</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711306"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T03:51:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Frankly, even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article in the first place -- it sounds like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711305</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711305"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T03:48:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::People thought Mudflap was offensive to black people, by which logic Reno Wilson should have been offended by his own character. He was surprised by this as he didn&#039;t regard Mudflap as a black stereotype. The note is employing sarcasm as a means of pointing this out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:35, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The problem is that I keep hearing that &amp;quot;people thought Mudflap was offensive to black people,&amp;quot; and that the joke is that that must mean (if all black people are offended by Mudflap) that Wilson himself is offended by Mudflap.  However, the article never says that.  It says that many viewers were offended, which they were. (I would guess that that goes for many races, black or white, but I can&#039;t back that up.) It barely mentions race at all, least of all as an absolute, until it mentions the perceived stereotypes or the fact that Wilson himself is black.  Frankly, even with that explanation -- which, again, isn&#039;t reflected in the article -- it sounds like it&#039;s trying to be sarcastic about a strawman. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711303</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711303"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T03:25:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that many people (enough to merit writing an article on the subject on the widespread reaction) were offended by their appearance.  However, the note simply says, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711302</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711302"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T03:25:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did, and I know that whatever they were intended to be, many people were offended by their appearance.  However, the note skips straight to saying, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense.  I think that it should either be edited or deleted . - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711301</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711301"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T03:24:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::One of the widespread reactions to ROTF was that people thought Skids and Mudflap were racist caricatures of black people. Did you read the article linked to in the citation? It explains the note. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:14, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I did.  I know that whatever they were intended to be, that many people were offended by their appearance.  However, the note in question skips straight to saying, &amp;quot;as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&amp;quot;  If I&#039;m reading Dark T Zeratul correctly, it sounds like it&#039;s supposed to make fun of the controversy, but even then, it doesn&#039;t make a whole lot of sense. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:24, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711298</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711298"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T03:02:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711297</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711297"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T02:52:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The point is that people claimed his portrayal was offensive to black people, which surprised him. And since he himself is black, he was apparently offensive to himself. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:48, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If it&#039;s supposed to be a joke, it doesn&#039;t read like one and I can only barely follow it.  I&#039;ve never heard anyone, including the article, try to say that all black people were offended by his character, which its logic seems to hinge on... or is it a joke?  I&#039;m still not sure that I follow. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 22:52, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711272</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711272"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T01:28:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss.  I think there&#039;s an incongruity here. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711265</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711265"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T01:23:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Self-Offense? */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he wasn&#039;t offended at all and didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth the fuss. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711263</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711263"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T01:21:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Self-Offense?==&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all of his quotes in the cited article make it sound like he personally didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as being worth any real fuss. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711260</id>
		<title>Talk:Reno Wilson</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Reno_Wilson&amp;diff=711260"/>
		<updated>2012-04-27T01:19:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The fact that Reno Wilson made all of Frenzy&#039;s dialog without being filtered or anything, (besides the Oh shi-)...Reno&#039;s page or Frenzy&#039;s? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 18:19, 30 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I say both.  --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 01:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s a note that &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Apparently, as Mudflap, he was horrendously offensive to himself. That surprised him.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; However, all the quotes I can get from the cited article make it sound like he, at least, didn&#039;t see Mudflap&#039;s portrayal as a particularly big deal.  Is there a quote somewhere else to that effect? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:19, 26 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Wouldn&#039;t Optimus Prime know who Galvatron was from when he was telling him to return the matrix during the episode The Burden Hardest to Bear? [[Special:Contributions/95.148.8.38|95.148.8.38]] 14:35, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmm... that&#039;s an interesting question.  It&#039;s certainly possible.  There are a few notes I was wondering about myself, namely the one about the Matrix&#039;s wisdom destroying the spores (in my experience, wisdom actually has a pretty strong track record against hatred -- besides that, we&#039;re talking about the same energy that made [[Unicron]] go kablooey) and the broader issue of how, in this episode in general, infected characters start working together to spread the plague rather than going berserk.  Is there an established protocol for grouping or answering &amp;quot;Errors&amp;quot; like these? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:41, 6 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Commercial appearances */ Er, no, the votes say he won. (For a given value of &amp;quot;won&amp;quot;.)&lt;/p&gt;
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{{disambig3|Megatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Megatron is the [[Decepticon]] leader from the [[Aligned continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PrimeMegatron.jpg|thumb|400px|Lord of the [[Dark Energon]] wraiths.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The awesomely powerful &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; is, in many ways, a fallen hero. He rose up from the oppressed lower working castes of [[Kaon]] to become a champion in the region&#039;s illegal [[gladiatorial combat|deathmatches]], cast aside his designation of &#039;&#039;&#039;D-16&#039;&#039;&#039; and took the legendary name &#039;&#039;&#039;[[The Fallen|Megatronus]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Megatron was an abbreviation, so it&#039;d be easier for the masses to chant his name; &#039;&#039;Transformers: Exodus&#039;&#039;, Chapter 3&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; as his own, he called for an end to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]&#039;s decrepit [[caste system]] and told the downtrodden that freedom of self-determination was the right of all sentient beings!&lt;br /&gt;
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But absolute power corrupts absolutely, and Megatron&#039;s Decepticon revolution, like many such movements, ended up becoming a whole new tyranny. Powerful, charismatic, violent, and full of rage for any who would stand in the way of his ambition and drive, Megatron brought Cybertron &#039;&#039;past&#039;&#039; the brink of destruction. Now he and his former brother-in-arms [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] fight on other worlds.  Megatron will never forgive Optimus for &amp;quot;betraying&amp;quot; him, stealing from the Council the rank of Prime which was rightfully his.  He has reserved for his old friend the greatest honor possible: glorious death at his hands.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron has been gone for three years, but now he&#039;s returned. He&#039;s brought the monstrous [[Dark Energon]] to Earth, and quite possibly left his sanity in space.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|I... am the Dominator, I... am the Destroyer, I am &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron!&#039;&#039;&#039;|Megatron|&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Aligned novels===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WFCcomicD16.jpg|thumb|left|250px|&amp;quot;Alright! What&#039;s the square root of pi?! What&#039;s the capital of Sierre Leone?! What&#039;s... awww, this &#039;ask questions later&#039; thing doesn&#039;t work at &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron nicknamed himself D-16 after the sector of the mine where he performed demolition operations. As a gladiator, in killing others he began to appreciate the value of life, and in between matches he became something of an intellectual, debating the castes with other miners. After bosses requested he lose a few fights, D-16 killed them and took over Kaon and [[Slaughter City]]. After murdering one boss in front of his employees, D-16 declared himself Megatronus, whom he considered the greatest of the [[Thirteen]]. After hearing his preaching on the [[Communication Grid]] against the [[Guilds of Cybertron]], the concerned [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] sent [[Bumper (WFC)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (WFC)|Fastback]] to investigate. Megatronus killed them, believing two lives were worthless compared to the millions doomed by the castes Sentinel created. &lt;br /&gt;
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After a victorious battle with the [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticon]]s, in which the crowd redubbed him Megatron, the gladiator was contacted by the [[Iacon (polity)|Iaconian]] [[Hall of Records|records monitor]] [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]], and they began exchanging their ideas in intense but friendly philosophical discussions. Megatron encouraged Orion to learn self defense and invited him to visit Kaon, which he did to a warm welcome from Megatron (and from none of his gladiators). By this point Megatron was planning to call his movement the Decepticons, and he had begun sending his followers on a search for artifacts of the Primes, as their discovery would be signs their cause was just. His followers began bombing Cybertron, and Megatron distanced himself from their extremism to gain credibility. Orion and his mentor [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] believed him, but the latter was well aware Megatron might have gained a taste for violence after the attention it earned him. Soon enough, Megatron accepted the gift of a kidnapped Sentinel Prime from [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Alpha Trion organized a hearing for Orion and Megatron with the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. They protested involvement in Sentinel&#039;s disappearance. When confronted with the phrase &amp;quot;Decepticon&amp;quot;, Megatron denied any knowledge of it but accepted his followers&#039; term wholeheartedly, stating deception was necessary sometimes for the corrupt to see the truth. When [[Halogen (WFC)|Halogen]] revealed Megatron&#039;s followers had been trying to locate the [[Matrix of Leadership]], he declared that Orion should become the Prime that he desperately wanted to lead Cybertron into the new [[Golden Age]], and find it. Incensed, Megatron killed Halogen, and when Optimus prevented the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] from attacking Megatron, the ungrateful gladiator declared Optimus had fallen into the trap of power the High Council had given him. He declared Optimus was no longer his brother (though he would continue to refer to him as such privately), and that the Matrix would be his.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the subsequent war with Optimus&#039; [[Autobot]]s, the Decepticons took control of eighty-five percent of the planet. Wherever Starscream&#039;s [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] aided, they were victorious. Megatron was initially merciful to neutrals, but he let Shockwave take control of [[Tarn]] and torture Autobot sympathizers there. When the [[Praxus|Praxians]], a progressive city-state who were disappointed with the direction Megatron took, allied with the Autobots, Megatron decided he would no longer try to convert followers and launched the first genocide of the war, slaughtering all in [[Nova Cronum]] who would not submit to the Decepticons as they attacked.&lt;br /&gt;
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As the war dragged into a siege of Iacon, Soundwave&#039;s spying bore fruit as he discovered [[Dark Energon]], the essence of [[Unicron]], was aboard [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]]. Megatron forgave Starscream for hiding its existence from him, acknowledging its potentially dangerous nature. To ensure loyalty, Megatron&#039;s gladiators stormed the Station slaughtering and maiming Starscream&#039;s scientists. He forced Starscream to pick two test subjects to be Darkened, and following an astonishingly successful result, Megatron absorbed some, invigorating him. Soon Darkened Decepticons appeared on the battlefield, but it proved to be an inefficient resource and they would have to flee if a battle was prolonged. Megatron needed more, and even Starscream&#039;s activation of the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] didn&#039;t provide enough. Megatron felt he would kill all the Decepticons before he was deprived of Dark Energon and turn rabid.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fortunately, Soundwave revealed the existence of the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] within [[Teletraan-1]], which required the [[Code Key]]s of Power and Justice to activate it. Starscream recovered the Key of Power, while Megatron and his best soldiers searched for the Key of Justice below the [[High Council Tower]]. Sentinel Prime emerged, to Megatron&#039;s surprise. Sentinel confronted him about Bumper and Fastback, and the two dueled. Megatron disarmed and sliced open Sentinel, revealing the Key of Justice within. Starscream made a grab for it, exposing that he had released Sentinel to kill Megatron and take leadership for himself. After fighting Starscream to a standstill, Megatron pardoned him as he found him a better soldier than would-be example, and used the Keys to open Teletraan-1: which activated [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]] to fly the Chamber to safety.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Seekers shot Omega Supreme out of the air, causing him to crash. Optimus&#039;s Autobots arrived to fight the Decepticons, but the more they killed them the more Dark Energon left their bodies and empowered Megatron. He was able to knee Omega Supreme and turn him on his back, tearing the Chamber out of his chest. Using the Chamber, Megatron poisoned the [[core]] of Cybertron and Darkened the entire planet. But then the core stopped producing Dark Energon, and Megatron learnt Optimus had gone to the core and received the Matrix. As the Autobots attempted to flee Cybertron via the last [[space bridge]], Megatron used Trypticon to fire on their ships, and used his and Orion&#039;s old frequency to criticize Optimus for fleeing. He added he never believed in individual freedom for every Cybertronian, only the illusion of freedom that he as leader would provide and that the Guilds did not. Optimus responded that Megatron had turned his soldiers into addicts and they would turn on him, and used the &#039;&#039;[[Eight Track (WFC)|Eight Track]]&#039;&#039; to board, sabotage and crash Trypticon. &lt;br /&gt;
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As the Autobots left on the completed &#039;&#039;[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]&#039;&#039;, the Decepticons fully invaded Iacon. Megatron ordered Trypticon to transform into the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039;, boarding it with Starscream, Soundwave, [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]] and other elite soldiers, leaving Shockwave in charge. He used his old frequency once again to warn Optimus that he would hound him through the stars and finally kill him for the Matrix. He explained they were still brothers, as they were bonded for life despite their enmity. Optimus was just glad his hunt would get him off Cybertron. The two ships entered the last [[space bridge]] together, and when the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; emerged, the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; was gone. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor&#039;&#039;: [[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Sean Long]] (BotCon 2011), [[Juan Carlos Lozano]] (Spain-Spanish), [[Ja-hyeong Gu]] (Korean), [[Tony Fuochi|Antonio Fuochi]] (Italian), [[Hans-Jürgen Wolf]] (German), [[Gerardo Vásquez]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Antonio Moreno]] (Brazilian Portuguese), [[Paweł Szczesny]] (Polish)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise3-corresponding.jpg|right|thumb|300px|&amp;quot;I&#039;m a fox!&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;I&#039;m a hound doooog!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the waning years of the [[Golden Age]] of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Megatronus (who named himself after [[The Fallen|one of the original thirteen Primes]]) was a gladiator who noticed there was a disparity in freedom among the classes of his race, and that the ruling class was corrupt and all-powerful.  In drawing attention to this inequity, he inspired a [[Hall of Records]] clerk named [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]], and the two joined forces to end corruption and bring equality to the masses. Soundwave also helped them. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}   Orion and Megatronus became close allies, almost like brothers.  But soon Megatronus&#039;s ideals would become corrupted, and the two would become bitter enemies. {{storylink|Masters &amp;amp; Students}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DarknessRising2-Megsflashback.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Things were very red in those days.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatronus shortened his name to Megatron before he and Orion Pax appeared before the [[High Council]].  Shocking his colleague with his true intentions, Megatron stated that he would overthrow the High Council by force and instate himself as the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]].  But it was Orion&#039;s speech that drew their attention.  Jealous, Megatron left angrily and began his conquest, which resulted in countless casualties and left the [[Core]] of Cybertron itself [[Dark Energon|poisoned]].  Denied the [[Matrix of Leadership]] by the High Council, Megatron was obsessed with finding it, but Orion Pax was given it by the Core itself, and Orion became Optimus Prime.  {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Over the following years, Megatron and Optimus fought many a battle, such as the [[Battle of Technar]] where Megatron ordered [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] to assassinate Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Masters &amp;amp; Students}} After his failure, Megatron came to believe only he should finally terminate Prime. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:DarknessRising2-MegatronDarkEnergon.jpg|right|thumb|250px|We can relate.  We&#039;re just like this with our [[BotCon]] toys.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Transformers&#039; war eventually brought Megatron and Prime&#039;s teams to Earth, where, after an initial clash, Megatron withdrew to space to search for more troops, leaving Starscream in charge. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} Searching the void for three years, Megatron found something better than mere warriors: he discovered a new source of Dark Energon, the &amp;quot;blood of [[Unicron]]&amp;quot;, with which he could reanimate fallen Transformers as an army of the undead. Returning to Earth and resuming command of the Decepticons, Megatron tested the Dark Energon on the deceased Autobot [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]], reviving him as a [[zombie]] &amp;quot;[[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]]&amp;quot; that slaughtered several [[Decepticon Miner]]s, but which posed no threat to Megatron himself. Unfortunately for Megatron, this partial reactivation of Cliffjumper&#039;s lifesigns drew Optimus Prime&#039;s Autobots to the Decepticons&#039; mining operations. Deciding it was not yet time for a confrontation with Prime, Megatron withdrew aboard the [[Nemesis (Prime)|&#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039;]], and continued to brood over the Dark Energon.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:darknessrising3_Megatronglowy.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Megatron, you fool! Rave glowsticks aren&#039;t candy!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron&#039;s inability to control the zombie Cliffjumper convinced him that he needed to integrate the Dark Energon into his own body in order to control the undead legions he planned to create. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}} Thrusting a shard of the material into his spark, he was filled with its power, feeling as thought he was connected to Unicron&#039;s very thoughts. Requiring a test run for his new power, Megatron headed for the site of an ancient Cybertronian battle on Earth, full of the remains of fallen warriors, where he was confronted by Optimus and [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]. Using Dark Energon to raise the dead Transformers as Terrorcons, Megatron successfully found he had complete control of the undead horde, and send them against the two Autobots. [[Image:DarknessRising4-Megatron.jpg|right|thumb|250px|I chew scenery while the zombies chew &#039;&#039;you&#039;&#039;.]] {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}  Optimus and Ratchet fought their way through the Terrorcons, only for Megatron to fly off before they could reach him, satisfied with his test results and ready put his plan into action—to open a [[space bridge]] to Cybertron and use Dark Energon to revive the entire planet&#039;s dead. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}} Despite the Autobots&#039; best efforts to damage the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; and prevent the bridge from opening, Megatron succeeded in his plans, and then had his showdown with Optimus Prime atop the bridge itself as he waited for the Terrorcon legions to pass through to Earth. While the two old foes battled, the other Autobots sabotaged the bridge, causing it to explode and destroy both the Terrorcon army, and seemingly, Megatron himself. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}[[Image:Masters&amp;amp;Students-Megatronstasis.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Well, it&#039;s better than just [[Megatron (Animated)|being a head]] I suppose.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Autobots were not so lucky, however: the Dark Energon in his spark allowed Megatron to survive the explosion, but just barely. When Starscream found his leader floating in space, he tore the Dark Energon from his body in the hope that he would expire, but was caught in the act by [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]&#039;s [[Deployer (Prime)|Deployer]], [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] and forced to take Megatron back to the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039;, where he was placed in [[Stasis lock|stasis]] in the sick bay. {{storylink|Masters &amp;amp; Students}} Starscream was content to leave Megatron in this state to recover or expire as fate saw fit, but the crew of the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; disagreed, and voted to bring in the Decepticon medic [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] to help heal their wounded leader. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}} Even with Knock Out&#039;s expertise, it seemed unlikely that Megatron would recover, but his assistant [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] gave his body a good buffing nonetheless; Starscream approved, as it meant their ex-leader would look his best for the memorial service. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--[[Image:DarknessRising5-Megatronsword.jpg|left|thumb|250px|He has to be careful when he wipes.]]--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SickMind megs and bee.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Hey, [[Megatron (Animated)|you]] really &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; [[Transform and Roll Out|uglier from this angle]]!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When Optimus Prime was infected by cybonic plague, Arcee and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] board the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; to search for an antidote. While they failed to find one in the database, the two Autobots did discover Megatron in stasis, and Bumblebee mind-linked with the Decepticon leader via [[cortical psychic patch]] to try and pluck the cure from his sleeping brain. Bumblebee found himself within Megatron&#039;s mind, which took the form of [[Kaon]], where the Decepticon&#039;s subconscious was spending its time killing endless visions of Optimus Primes; unfortunately, Bumblebee&#039;s intrusion only caused Megatron to become aware of his situation, when he found he was unable to kill Bumblebee. Learning what had befallen Optimus, Megatron initially refused to give up the cure until Bumblebee convinced him that he would gain greater satisfaction from finishing his enemy off with his own two hands. Megatron offered the cure in exchange for Bumblebee&#039;s help in escaping his mental prison, but Bumblebee double-crossed him, withdrawing from his mind as soon as the cure was in Autobot hands. At the last moment, Megatron was able to effect his own escape, leaping into Bumblebee&#039;s mind along with him. {{storylink|Sick Mind}} [[Image:OutofhisHead megatron revived.jpg|left|thumb|250px|IT&#039;S... AAALLLLLIIIIIIIIVE!]] Recalling the sliver of Dark Energon Starscream had removed from his body, Megatron took full control of Bumblebee&#039;s body a short time later and used the GroundBridge to return to the ancient battlefield where he had raised his original Terrorcons, recovering the Dark Energon shard he had used to do so. He returned to the [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Autobot base]], where he dealt with Ratchet and [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]] before again GroundBridging to the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; and using the Dark Energon to restore his body and return his mind to it. Storming out of the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; to find Starscream, Megatron snatched his subordinate out of the air in the middle of a battle with Optimus Prime and took him back for his punishment. {{storylink|Out of His Head}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Shadowzone-MegsStarscream.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Lulz.]]  Despite his treason, Megatron decided not to terminate Starscream, viewing him as no real threat and taking perverse amusement in his repeated failures. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}} Instead, Megatron proceeded to beat Starscream only to &#039;&#039;near&#039;&#039; death, then had him placed in the infirmary, occasionally visiting to gloat. {{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Breakdown was captured by the humans of [[MECH]], Megatron refuted Starscream&#039;s suggestion that they rescue him, announcing that if Breakdown had allowed himself to be captured by those weaker than him, then he deserved whatever he got. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}} Breakdown did manage to escape, however, insisted his wounded pride saw him volunteer to recover a [[polarity gauntlet]] for Megatron, in order to prove his worth. Megatron was disappointed when his minion returned without the gauntlet, but was placated with the revelation that he had instead brought back [[Airachnid]]. {{storylink|Metal Attraction}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:RockBottom-Starscreamprays.jpg|thumb|250px|left|Definitely &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; [[Bruticus]], Starscream.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Discovering that Starscream was still attempting to mine energon for his personal use without his knowledge, Megatron determined that the amusement had come to an end. Taking him to the mine in question, Megatron revealed that he had been aware of Starscream&#039;s previous transgressions the whole time thanks to Soundwave, and was about to execute his grovelling lieutenant when [[Jack Darby]] and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] walked in. In the firefight that followed, stray shots from Megatron&#039;s fusion cannon brought the mine down on top of them all, with Megatron being completely pinned by rubble. Jack happened upon the Decepticon leader with a mining drill, and Megatron, knowing that the human would not help him, instead urged Jack to finish him off. Jack refused, saying that wasn&#039;t what Optimus would do, and left, but the opening he had created allowed Megatron to begin his escape. After finally extricating himself, Megatron came upon Starscream trying to keep a large rock from crushing him. Starscream insisted that he had come to rescue Megatron, and begged the Decepticon leader to spare him, and Megatron acquiesced with a smirk. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Though Megatron allowed Starscream to live and continue as his second-in-command, he was furious to learn from Airachnid that Starscream had kept the location of the &#039;&#039;[[Harbinger]]&#039;&#039; from him. He ordered Starscream to lead Airachnid to the crash site and retrieve an [[Immobilizer|experimental weapon]] that was inside. Much to Megatron&#039;s fury, Airachnid returned not only without the weapon, but with the news that Starscream had been captured by the Autobots as well. {{storylink|Partners}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:StrongerFaster-KnockOutMegatronRatchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|&amp;quot;Steroids?&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Yup.&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Ah.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
When a formula for [[Synthetic Energon]] was transferred from a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] into the mind of the Autobot [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]], Optimus Prime petitioned Megatron for the return of the cylinder so they could extract the formula, after which they would willingly hand it over. Megatron briefly considered the proposal, but instead sent Knock Out and Breakdown to capture Bulkhead and dared Prime to fight for the cylinder. When his Vehicon troops were defeated, Megatron simply crushed the device and took flight. {{storylink|T.M.I.}} The synthetic energon formula helped the Autobots counter Megatron&#039;s next tactic: causing the Autobots to burn through their energon supplies at an accelerated rate by leading them on wild goose chases. Juiced up on the &amp;quot;SynthEn&amp;quot;, Ratchet attacked Megatron and Knock Out while they were surveying an energon mine, and sent the Decepticon leader flying with one punch. Unfortunately for Ratchet, Megatron swiftly recovered and subdued the Autobot medic with ease. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PrimeEp23-Megatronjetmode.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Hold still, jet mode, so we can screencap you, dammit!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Convinced by Dark Energon-induced visions that an impending prophecy detailed his own destiny, Megatron stepped up the Decepticons&#039; work in constructing a new space bridge so they could obtain more Dark Energon. When they located the last component they needed, Megatron went in personally, grievously wounding Raf with a blast of Dark Energon on the way and creating an unintended distraction that allowed him to make off with the power source he needed. Soon after, Megatron lured Optimus Prime to a volcano he had seen in his visions, and during their battle, it erupted with Dark Energon, imbuing Megatron with the power he needed to fell Prime. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}}[[Image:OneShallFall-visionfulfilled.jpg|thumb|255px|right|Look, Prime! Look at the fireworks! Aren&#039;t they splendid?!]] The intervention of the other Autobots saved Prime&#039;s life, but this was of little concern to Megatron, who now had all the Dark Energon he needed and set his miners to work gathering it up. When Soundwave detected a spark-beat coming from within the Earth, Megatron felt it pounding through his brain and realized what his visions had meant: the lifeforce of Unicron himself dwelt within Earth. Leaving Airachnid in command, Megatron flew into the volcano to address Unicron, but received not the power he hoped the chaos-bringer would bestow on him, but instead Unicron&#039;s displeasure at the fact that Optimus Prime still lived. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Spurned, Megatron instead went to the aid of Optimus and his Autobots, who were under attack from Unicron&#039;s stone avatars. He offered Optimus his services—he intended to lead them to Unicron&#039;s real form so that Optimus could use the [[Matrix of Leadership]] on the Chaos God. While the Autobots returned to base, Megatron kept the giant stone Unicrons busy, and Prime eventually accepted Megatron&#039;s offer. On arrival in the Autobot base, Megatron encountered a couple of humans he recognized, Raf and Jack, as well as a [[Miko Nakadai|new loud one]]. Megatron was first to step through the GroundBridge into the Earth&#039;s core, and as the Autobots followed, he warned them that Unicron already knew they were there. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise3-together.jpg|thumb|255px|left|&amp;quot;Just this once, we work together! Mortal enemies working together for the common good!&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Be quiet!&amp;quot;]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the persistent influence of Unicron, Megatron led the Autobots through Unicron&#039;s insides, even helping them fight off [[Unicron&#039;s antibodies|antibodies]]. The Dark Energon he was imbued with allowed him to enter Unicron&#039;s spark chamber with Optimus, though at that point Unicron&#039;s influence became so great that the Chaos God was able to commandeer his body. After Optimus unleashed the power of the Matrix, apparently extinguishing Unicron&#039;s spark, Megatron went to kill Optimus, only to discover his foe had lost his memory and now believed himself to be Orion Pax. Megatron convinced Optimus that the other Autobots were enemies, and the pair returned to the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039;, where Megatron introduced &amp;quot;Orion Pax&amp;quot; to his men. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron wasted no time in spinning a tale of Autobot warlord Ratchet and the destruction of Cybertron, and put Orion Pax to work decoding data from the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] archives. Though aware that at some point Orion would find out the truth, Megatron made all precautions to make sure that didn&#039;t happen before Orion finished his work. This even extended to getting Soundwave to carefully remove Arcee from the ship one time when she managed to get on board. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron attempted to cover for a surprise visit by Starscream, but a short time later, Soundwave notified him that Orion had found information on Optimus Prime and Megatron realized that harsher methods would be necessary to complete [[Project Iacon]]. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoiler|Orion Pax, Part 3|March 10, 2012}}&lt;br /&gt;
After given Orion some guards and nasty threats, Megatron was informed of activity at the space bridge and went there to find the Autobots had taken control of it. He defeated the trio who were there, and waited for Arcee to return through the open space bridge with the expected Matrix, however in the meantime Orion had overpowered his guards and came to attack Megatron. Orion was no match for Megatron, but while the Decepticon leader was subsequently kept busy by Arcee, Jack returned the Matrix to Orion, who regained his memory and left with the Autobots. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Commercial appearances===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor&#039;&#039;: [[Frank Welker]] (English)&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron, [[wikipedia:Dan Vs.|Dan]] and [[My Little Pony|Pinkie Pie]], a pony, sang a collaborative group song while the scene quickly shifted between a variety of strange alternate universes. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub summer promo 2011}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|Are you ready for the summer? Are you ready for the hot &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt; nuts &amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; nights?|Megatron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point he ended up in detention at a school because he had &amp;quot;anger issues&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub promo}}&lt;br /&gt;
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He later joined back up with Pinkie Pie as well as other ponies Rainbow Dash and Applejack, and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] in scatting &amp;quot;[[wikipedia:Deck the Halls|Deck the Halls]]&amp;quot;{{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub Carolers}} and singing &amp;quot;[[wikipedia:Jingle Bells|Jingle Bells]]&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Commercial/Prime|The Hub Carolers (Second spot)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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He also demanded that viewers vote for him in the Hub&#039;s 2010 &amp;quot;Naughty or Nice&amp;quot; contest.  They must have been listening, because he was eventually voted the &amp;quot;Naughtiest&amp;quot; villain on the Hub that year.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Titan Magazines &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; comics===&lt;br /&gt;
Under Megatron&#039;s leadership, the Decepticons conquered many city states including [[Kalis]], [[Tarn]] and [[Vos]]. When the time came to strike against [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Megatron led a five-con team in under the cover of darkness to bomb the [[Iacon Energon Refinery]]. They had barely planted the first bomb when they were spotted and fired on. After the other three Decepticons were shot down, Megatron gave Soundwave a bomb and set about causing a distraction while his second-in-command went to plant it. When Soundwave was also shot down, Megatron flew into action, helping up the rest of his team and carrying Soundwave as they retreated under the cover of an exploding bomb. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}&lt;br /&gt;
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With a new plan, Megatron took [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] to attack the [[Yamal|NS &#039;&#039;Yamal&#039;&#039;]], a Russian icebreaker near [[Antarctica]]. He intended to use a [[static lance]] to cause the ship&#039;s reactors to meltdown exposing energon deposits beneath the ice. Unfortunately Optimus got wind of the plan and came storming in. As Megatron detailed his plan during their one-on-one fight, Optimus took possession of the lance. Megatron attempted to take it back, only for Optimus to hit him with it. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron and Soundwave somehow slipped some code into &#039;&#039;[[Invasionauts II]]&#039;&#039; to hypnotise Raf into opening the GroundBridge so they could send Vehicons through. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{spoiler|Transformers Comic issue 4.6|March 29, 2012}}&lt;br /&gt;
Irritated at Starscream&#039;s failure to end the Autobot problem, Megatron demanded his subordinate try and lure the Autobots into a trap instead for fruitlessly searching for them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.6|All the President&#039;s &#039;Bots!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Mega-Mouth====&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron occasionally takes time out from conquering the universe to...answer fan mail? He also sometimes seems [[Megatron (Movie)|confused]] about which [[universal stream]] he hails from, as he claimed he attacked [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel]] {{storylink|Transformers_Comic_issue_4.1#Mega-Mouth|Mega-Mouth #1}} he also explained why he wore a cowl in &#039;&#039;[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Transformers_Comic_issue_4.4#Mega-Mouth|Mega-Mouth #4}} and he also said he survived &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039;, after some fan asked how Megatron could be answering those fanmails. {{storylink|Transformers_Comic_issue_4.5#Mega-Mouth|Mega-Mouth #5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers: War for Cybertron&#039;&#039; (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor&#039;&#039;: [[Fred Tatasciore]] (English), [[Oliviero Corbetta]] (Italian), [[Juan Carlos Lozano]] (Spain-Spanish)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WFC_Megatron.jpg|thumb|350px|He wants the whooole wooorld, in his hand!]]&lt;br /&gt;
During the early war on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Megatron found reference to an energy source called [[Dark Energon]], which had impressive potential as a weapon, and became determined to claim it for himself. One of the few places it was made was in a station in orbit around Cybertron, guarded by a politically neutral force led by [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. With this knowledge, he took a ship and launched an assault on the station.&lt;br /&gt;
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The ship was badly damaged in the attack, and so he ordered [[Barricade (Prime)|Barricade]] and [[Brawl (WFC)| Brawl]], piloting it, to ram the station.  He and many of his soldiers survived the impact and escaped the core&#039;s detonation. They were then confronted by Starscream, who informed them that they would not allow them to take what he had guarded for ten thousand years.  After surviving a trap of sentry guns, Megatron, Barricade, and Brawl were reinforced by more of Megatron&#039;s troops, and set out on their way to find the station&#039;s Dark Energon stores and claim them for the war effort.  They encountered significant resistance, but managed to shoot their way through, with directional aid from [[Soundwave (Prime)| Soundwave]].  Barricade noted that the station itself seemed quite primitive; Megatron noted it was very old, and that he intended to modernize it...  At one point, the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] confronted Megatron nonviolently, asking him to give up his quest, as Dark Energon would result in only horror, death, and destruction, to which Megatron sneered, &amp;quot;You say that as if it were a bad thing.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WFC-MegatronmeetsStarscream.jpg|left|thumb|300px|At last we meet, my punching bag.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Along their way to the Dark Energon, they found that a large portion of the station had been blasted clean off, the debris field traversable but sparse enough to allow easy viewing of Cybertron itself. Soundwave soon found records indicating that a small amount of Dark Energon lost containment and was the sole cause of the destruction, underscoring Megatron&#039;s desire for it.  When Barricade asked how he expected to control it when no other had, Megatron said that such power was only for the strong, that he was the strongest, and not to question him again.&lt;br /&gt;
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When they finally reached the storage chamber, and Megatron averted Starscream&#039;s destruction of it, he calmly entered into a container full of raw Dark Energon, while Starscream watched and gloated at his imminent destruction...only for him to walk out, not only unscathed, but crackling with power, which he further bestowed upon Barricade and Brawl. A single blast of Dark Energon was enough to destroy an entire company of station security forces, the last line of defense between Megatron and Starscream and his companions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jetfire again tried to warn Megatron about the dangers of Dark Energon, but Starscream interrupted, asking to join the Decepticon leader. Megatron asked what Starscream could offer that he could not simply take. Starscream revealed the station&#039;s supply of Dark Energon was almost spent, and he knew how to manufacture more—and as luck would have it, there was a dormant [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] which could be used to power it. Jetfire retreated to inform [[Sentinel Zeta Prime| Zeta Prime]]; Megatron let him go, seeming pleased by the notion of letting the Autobots tremble in advance of their actions, and sent Starscream, [[Thundercracker (WFC)| Thundercracker]], and [[Skywarp (WFC)| Skywarp]] to activate the bridge. &lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron repeatedly mocked what he perceived as Starscream&#039;s slowness in his simple mission, but the Seeker did what he said he could.  With a steady supply of Dark Energon, Megatron launched an attack on Iacon City, intending to take a device called the [[Omega Key]] and use it to enter the Core of Cybertron. This time, he took [[Breakdown (Prime)| Breakdown]] and Soundwave with him. The trio took the less-guarded way in—which, since the Autobots were not complete fools (as even Megatron would admit), still had significant military presence. During the attack, Starscream noted that Dark Energon was proving every bit as potent as Megatron had promised. Breakdown let Megatron know of his misgivings about the Sky Commander; Megatron admitted he was treacherous and untrustworthy, but he had useful talents, and his cunning and ambition was intriguing.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Omega Key had been taken from its normal resting place, however, by Autobot leader Zeta Prime, and so Megatron took his squad on an assault on Zeta&#039;s headquarters.  They met Brawl, leading an attack on the doors to Zeta Prime&#039;s armory, along the way.  Even Megatron&#039;s touch of Dark Energon could not breach the vault doors, however, and so he called in [[Dark Energon Bombers]]. When they were shot down, Brawl suggested they take out the Autobots&#039; air defense guns, after which bombers were called in again; Megatron&#039;s troops then held off a massive assault from what seemed like the entire Autobot army while waiting for the bombing run to finally arrive.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WFC Megatron Vs ZetaPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Zeta Prime, you might be more egotistical than me. I mean really, a huge holographic version of you and smaller holograms doing what you can&#039;t do without your pointy stick thing?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After the vault doors were breached, they reached Zeta Prime himself, who had constructed several layers of security while he waited.  An invincible energy field protected him, while he could drop portions of the ceiling with pistons to crush anything beneath them, and construct endless holographic clones of himself outfitted for melee combat, which Megatron personally found nauseating.  However, his defenses were not without flaw: periodically, the power core would need to disperse waste heat, and Megatron&#039;s team survived long enough to destroy it during this stage.  Zeta fell, buried under the wreckage of his own defenses, and Megatron took the device he&#039;d carried...which started to make electronic chirping noises.  Zeta, with black humor, noted that the device was not the Omega Key.  It merely &#039;&#039;activated&#039;&#039; the Key, which would come to them... &lt;br /&gt;
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Searching for the Key in the skies aboard another ship, Megatron, with Soundwave and Breakdown at the controls, were abruptly confronted by a massive ship, [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]], who knocked them out of the sky, causing them to crash back in Iacon. There, they played a cat-and-mouse campaign in a desperate attempt to survive the enormous Autobot&#039;s vast firepower, though Soundwave noted that the weaponry they bore had little chance of penetrating Omega Supreme&#039;s armor.  Megatron, for his part, at least contrived to appear unafraid, claiming that if it came to a real fight, the brute wouldn&#039;t stand a chance against Megatron&#039;s intellect.  However, Omega&#039;s attacks drove them underground and left them unable to immediately transmit counter to Starscream, who declared Megatron dead and announced he was taking control.  Even when they re-established contact, Starscream&#039;s aerial forces only briefly distracted Omega, who dispensed large numbers of troops, sucked up Decepticons with a tractor beam, fired weapons of mass destruction, and mined the roads Megatron and his squad were using.&lt;br /&gt;
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Soundwave, however, had come up with a suggestion—there were weapons emplacements higher up that had the ability to damage Omega Supreme.  Taking them from the Autobots was a battle in and of itself, but nothing compared to the fight against Omega Supreme, who could unload entire squadrons of Aerialbots.  Nonetheless, Megatron&#039;s boldness and tactical acumen finally shot Omega Supreme out of the sky.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WFC-hearmynameandtremble.jpg|left|thumb|300px|I stand on your crotch!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Gloating, Megatron found that the behemoth was still not defeated, and indeed was drawing power from Cybertron itself to repair his systems, making him stronger, if anything.  However, by corrupting the energon batteries with which he was using to feed himself with Dark Energon charges, they were able to weaken him to the point where they could finally blast away his last defenses and brought him to heel.  With Omega Supreme defeated, Megatron went underground, directly to the Core, and corrupted it with a massive infusion of Dark Energon, finally bringing Cybertron itself more completely under his control.&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point, Megatron was clearly convinced, and for good reason, that he&#039;d won, making propaganda broadcasts extolling his greatness and how he had taken away the Autobots&#039; burdens of &amp;quot;liberty&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;choice&amp;quot;.  When Starscream was defeated and the Decagon retaken, however, he realized the Autobots were not yet going to roll over for him, and sent a distress signal from Zeta Prime, whom he had kept alive in the Kaon prison camp, in order to provoke a rescue attempt from the Autobots.  His old acquaintance Optimus took the bait, and Megatron confronted him, telling him that the war could be over tomorrow if Optimus took the Autobots and left.  Optimus refused, so Megatron consigned him and his team to the prisons.  When they managed to stage a mass breakout, an enraged Megatron ordered his troops to prevent their escape at any cost, to the point of tearing apart portions of Kaon.&lt;br /&gt;
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This was not enough, however, and they escaped, journeying to the Core, where they kickstarted the cleansing of Megatron&#039;s corruption.  Doing so, however, would take the Core millions of years of shutdown, rendering Cybertron uninhabitable.  Whether Megatron knew this or not, when he saw the Autobots leaving after Optimus&#039;s refusal of his earlier offer, he apparently took offense.  His earlier plans of renovating Starscream&#039;s station had come to fruition; now, it mounted a powerful superweapon, capable of destroying entire structures in one shot.  He had it fire upon the Autobot transports as they left.  When a team of Aerialbots attempted to disable or destroy it, he called Jetfire, now one of them, and taunted him about his past.  He further mocked them when they destroyed the plasma coolant system without apparently having accounted for backups.  Finally, during the attack he came into possession of information on Optimus Prime&#039;s location, and ordered Trypticon—the name of the weapon, for it was actually a Cybertronian—to fire upon it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trypticon, however, was forced into his natural form and defeated after he crash-landed on Cybertron.  Megatron&#039;s reaction to this went unrecorded. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: War for Cybertron&#039;&#039; (DS)===&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron was the Decepticon Leader during the final days of the Great War. After capturing an Autobot facility, and killing a cadet, Megatron revealed his plan to his troops. Megatron intended to conquer Trypticon Space Station, which had the means and power to manufacture Dark Energon: a variant of Energon which greatly increased the stamina and strength of its host. Megatron fought his way through the station to its commander, the Autobot Starscream. Upon Starscream&#039;s defeat, Starscream offered his services and the Dark Energon if he was spared. Megatron agreed, and Starscream joined the Decepticons.&lt;br /&gt;
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After a test run of the Dark Energon in Kaon Prison, Soundwave deduced the element would only kill the host, but Starscream was able to find a way to fix it. Megatron then decided the time was right, and led his army to the inner levels of Cybertron. He was able to activate the uplink to channel energy from the Core of Cybertron itself to Trypticon Station, but he needed the Omega Key to access it once it was shut down with a firewall. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WFCDS Defeat Omega Supreme.jpg|thumb|left|256px|Simple enough... OH GOD BULLETS.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron learned through a recording from Laserbeak that Autobot Leader Zeta Prime had the Omega Key in his possession and had holed up deep within Iacon. Megatron led a full-scale assault on the city, totally devastating Iacon, until he found Zeta Prime at last. After a hard battle, Zeta fell, and Megatron obtained the Omega Key. However, immediately upon taking it, alarms went off, and Iacon itself was shaking. Zeta Prime, despite being mortally wounded, laughed at Megatron&#039;s face, saying the Omega Key was only the key to the &#039;&#039;true&#039;&#039; key: the city-sized Autobot Omega Supreme.&lt;br /&gt;
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Omega immediately attacked the victorious Decepticons, and quickly decimated their presence in Iacon, save for Megatron&#039;s team and a few others. By this point, Megatron was absolutely furious at Starscream: Megatron declared it was he who led them to Omega Supreme and the devastating onslaught he carried out. Starscream bitterly retorted even if Megatron killed him, Omega Supreme would still be out for his blood, helping nothing whatsoever. Megatron angrily let it go for the time being, and led his army to battle. His troops&#039; confidence beginning to falter, Megatron declared they would either be kicking themselves for not acting for the rest of their lives, or heroes in a historic event. His men followed him to battle Omega, and the titan fell. Megatron was free to corrupt the Core of Cybertron with Dark Energon, and obtain near-supremacy of Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
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That kind of went downhill when the new Autobot leader, Optimus Prime, extinguished the Dark Energon and destroyed Trypticon Space Station, didn&#039;t it?&lt;br /&gt;
{{Storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Cybertron Adventures&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor&#039;&#039;: [[Fred Tatasciore]] (English), [[Oliviero Corbetta]] (Italian)&lt;br /&gt;
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Early in the war, when the Autobots learned of the existence of the orbiting superweapon [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]], Megatron sent waves of Decepticon forces to keep them from discovering more about it. Megatron, happy to see the destruction Trypticon was creating, ordered Starscream and Skywarp at gunpoint to return to Trypticon and clean up after it, while he took his troops into battle to scour the area for Autobots to kill. Few Autobots other than the medic, [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]], were spared Megatron&#039;s initial assault.    &lt;br /&gt;
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When Megatron found out that Starscream had left his post at Trypticon, Megatron grew angry. But the Autobots had infiltrated the [[Datacore]], so Megatron focused his efforts there instead. Bumblebee was captured, and information useful for the taking of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] was pulled from his mind. Megatron assigned Skywarp the task of the initial Iacon assault. The traitorous Starscream returned to Megatron&#039;s focus, and the Air Commander was ordered to infiltrate the Core of Cybertron to reactivate the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]]. But Starscream took too long, discovering Megatron had already reached the Core by the time he arrived. In a foul mood, Megatron would test Starscream&#039;s loyalty by putting him on the Iacon assault&#039;s front lines.&lt;br /&gt;
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The assault went as planned, and Iacon crumbled. As Barricade and Starscream reached an empty Council Chamber, Megatro alerted them to the evacuation of the surviving Autobots. Three Autobot ships positioned themselves to escape, and so Megatron ordered Thundercracker and Skywarp to take them down.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Though Iacon fell, the Trypticon orbiting superweapon was destroyed by the Autobots... but not before Megatron ripped the datacore from its brain so as to salvage its information on Dark Energon. Megatron was pleased. Despite his loss, he still had the upper hand. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Fall of Cybertron&#039;&#039; (Xbox 360/PS3)===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Generations===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianMegatron.jpg|thumb|right|300px| Fashionably asymmetrical.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Cybertronian Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: clear purple missile, fusion cannon&lt;br /&gt;
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: This toy is based on Megatron&#039;s appearance in the video game &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]&#039;&#039;, transforming into a Cybertronian self-propelled gun.  The treads of his vehicle can be positioned in either a vertical configuration like a traditional tank or in a horizontal, hovertank configuration.  Megatron&#039;s spring-loaded cannon can attach to either arm. He also has an insignia on his back, but unlike Optimus, his is not hidden by kibble.  Like [[Soundwave (Prime)|&#039;&#039;War for Cybertron&#039;&#039; Soundwave]], his head has a light-piping gimmick that has been neutered by his painted eyes.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Some units of the figure have Megatron&#039;s left internal shoulder strut misassembled, preventing that side of the tank-mode from becoming properly flush to the body when transforming. This can be corrected by unscrewing and separating the outer shoulder structure, flipping the strut 180 degrees, and reassembling the shoulder covering.&lt;br /&gt;
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: This mold was [[redeco]]ed into &#039;&#039;[[Transformers United|United]]&#039;&#039; [[Megatron (G1)/toys#United|Megatron Cybertron Mode]] and [[Darkside Megatron]].&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/GenerationsMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Cybertronian Megatron at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Prime===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Primetoy-MegatronEP.jpg|right|thumb|300px|His jet mode needs a little scarf attached to the robot head.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime vs Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (First Edition 5 figure gift set, 2011)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: [[Fusion cannon]]&lt;br /&gt;
: This Deluxe-Class version of Megatron transforms into his alien ship mode. He comes with his Fusion Cannon, which can either be held with his hands in robot mode, or peg onto his jet mode by folding the handle in and pegging it behind his exposed, peeking head. It is also in this latter configuration for the cannon that the otherwise useless groove and tab on the cannon and its handle can be pegged onto the tab and otherwise useless socket on his right arm, giving him the classic, arm-mounted, yet &#039;&#039;strangely undocumented&#039;&#039; Fusion Cannon configuration shown in his [[stock photography]].&lt;br /&gt;
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: Speaking of undocumented features, his [[instructions]] show a noticeably different &amp;quot;completed&amp;quot; vehicle mode when compared to his stock photos. Specifically, the instructions completely neglect the extra steps to flip his wings out and form a more [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] vehicle mode, opting instead for a more slender, wingless vehicle mode. To achieve this undocumented form, his underside leg panels must be opened, flipped around and over to the top of the ship, be pegged onto a tab on the side of his intakes, and his pointy wingtips must be flipped out from underneath. &lt;br /&gt;
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: He also has some clearance issues when transforming. His intakes and the panel that surrounds his head in vehicle mode tend to collide when the intakes are snugly angled into and out of the panel, often resulting in the intakes popping off the (detachable) plastic hinges that they&#039;re on.&lt;br /&gt;
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: He also comes somewhat mis-transformed in the package, with the positions of the intakes and the panel on his back being switched around, with the panel being placed &#039;&#039;after&#039;&#039; the intakes, instead of &#039;&#039;before&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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: He comes with a similarly-scaled [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] and PVC figurines of [[Miko Nakadai]], [[Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel]], as well as a DVD of the &amp;quot;Series Premiere&amp;quot; episode &amp;quot;[[Masters &amp;amp; Students]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (First Edition Deluxe, 2011)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: Fusion Cannon&lt;br /&gt;
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: The Japanese release of Deluxe class Megatron was packaged by itself on a card. The instructions show the proper vehicle mode, how to attach his fusion canon to his arm, and the figure is transformed correctly in the box.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{anchor|Cyberverse}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TF-Cyberverse-Commander-Megatron.jpg|right|thumb|300px|.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Cyberverse Commander, 2012)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Cyber sword&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
: This Cyberverse scaled Megatron is cast partly in translucent plastic so that the toy can be lit using the electronic lights featured in the larger playsets.  He also comes with a translucent &amp;quot;cyber sword&amp;quot; weapon and a pack-in file card.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{anchor|Powerizer}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PrimeRIDtoy-MegatronPowerizer.jpg|right|thumb|300px|And it&#039;s like the sky is new.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Voyager, 2012)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Cannon&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Combat Claw&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
: Like the Cyberverse version, this Megatron has a fair amount of translucent purple plastic in the torso and forearms, and a similar general design to his other &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; toys of the line in both modes, although the plastic is a little more matte than in the stock photo.&lt;br /&gt;
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:He comes with two weapons; the arm cannon is a MechTech-like weapon, where pushing a plunger at the back swings two blades out from either side and pushes a third one forward, combining to make a larger one below the cannon&#039;s mouth. At the same time, a red LED swings out and activates, shining through the plastic blades. The cannon can be mounted on either arm, either in the classic elbow port or from one on the wrist, and the blade can be locked in place by manually swinging the blades out while holding the plunger back.&lt;br /&gt;
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:He also comes with a combat claw, which mounts on the wrist point on either hand and has a piece which rests in the hand to appear more as if it&#039;s being held. The claw can also be mounted in front of the cannon, which does not interfere with the cannon&#039;s blade gimmick. Both weapons can also be stored on the back when not in use, and it is possible to trigger the cannon&#039;s LED gimmick and lock it on while on the back without unfolding the blade much, resulting in the LED shining through and making the inner chest glow red.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers (2010)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TRURageOverCybertronCybertronianMegatron.jpg|thumb|300px|Nobody makes fun of Megatron&#039;s lovely skirt. Not more than once, anyway.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Rage over Cybertron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multipack, 2011)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: Fusion cannon, missile&lt;br /&gt;
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:A [[redeco]] of Cybertronian Megatron with purple parts, a translucent purple cannon and purple and red paint details resembling the effects of [[Dark Energon]], available in a [[Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us]] [[exclusive]] three-pack with Cybertronian Optimus Prime and Cybertronian Bumblebee.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The [[stock photo]] to the right has his vehicle mode mis-transformed. His treads are left almost untransformed as his arms, but with his hands folded inside the treads, and the top panel on his left shoulder hasn&#039;t been rotated and pegged between his shoulders/tank front. His robot mode is also mis-transformed, with his back panel not being pegged into his back and being left hanging behind his thighs.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bot Shots===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bot Shots S1 BP004 Megatron.jpg|thumb|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Nemesis Prime / Megatron / Acid Storm&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2012)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Series&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;1&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;BP004&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Fist strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;170&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Blaster strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;820&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Sword strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;625&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;[[Bot Shots]]&#039;&#039; Megatron is a teeny tank that borrows some elements from both the &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; Megatron designs. He has a spring-loaded automatic transformation to robot mode triggered when his front is pressed and a &amp;quot;spinner&amp;quot; in his chest that shows his three attack types and power levels. He was only available in a three-pack with [[Nemesis Prime (BS)|Nemesis Prime]] and [[Acid Storm (BS)|Acid Storm]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}{{anchor|BotShotLauncher}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron Launcher&#039;&#039;&#039; (Launcher, 2012)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Series&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;1&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;BL002&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Fist strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Blaster strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Sword strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:A redeco of the &#039;&#039;Bot Shots&#039;&#039; tank Megatron mold in bronze with a transforming battlestation/launcher.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Bot Shot, 2012)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Series&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;1&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Super Bot 003&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Fist strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Blaster strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Sword strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Cast in translucent dark green plastic, &amp;quot;Super Bot&amp;quot; Megatron is a new figure using a mix of Bot Shots Optimus, tank Megatron, and all new &amp;quot;trailer&amp;quot;, robot chest, and grill parts.  It transforms into a semi-truck with trailer, taking inspiration from the &#039;&#039;[[Kre-O]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]&#039;&#039; Megatrons. Like the rest of the line, it has a spring-loaded transformation and a spinning stat dial in its chest. As a Super Bot, it was packed one per case and had higher stats than an average Bot Shot figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}{{anchor|BotShotBattleForMatrix}}&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle for the Matrix&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2012)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Series&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;1&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Fist strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Blaster strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
***&#039;&#039;Sword strength&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;???&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: This version of Megatron is a multi-pack release of the Megatron Launcher. It is unknown at this time what differences, if any, there are between this and the prior versions of the figure or launcher.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The set also comes with [[Optimus Prime (Prime)#BotShotBattleForMatrix|Optimus Prime with his launcher]], [[Brawl (WFC)#BotShotBattleForMatrix|Brawl]], and [[Bumblebee (Prime)#BotShotBattleForMatrix|Bumblebee]], as well as a [[Matrix]] prize.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Tfprimemegatronjet.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Too fast for screen caps.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Megatron&#039;s designation as an energon miner was &amp;quot;D-16&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 War for Cybertron timeline].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Megatron&#039;s original [[Japanese ID number list|Japanese ID number]] was &amp;quot;16&amp;quot;. Takara would eventually change the numbering system using a &amp;quot;D&amp;quot; to denote [[Decepticon|Destrons]]. So Megatron&#039;s Japanese ID number could retroactively be considered &amp;quot;D-16&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*In &#039;&#039;Transformers: War for Cybertron&#039;&#039;, Megatron has multiple glitches when controlled by the computer, among them shrinking (quite hilariously), losing his Fusion Cannon, and having his Tank mode cannon stick straight up (also humorous). He may be the most glitchy character in the game.&lt;br /&gt;
*Optimus Prime&#039;s recollections in &#039;&#039;Darkness Rising&#039;&#039; have him and Megatron fighting side-by-side at the start of the Great War. This is the first time a Megatron has been involved in a Great War that he &#039;&#039;didn&#039;t&#039;&#039; start, never mind one where he used to be a goodie.&lt;br /&gt;
*The show design of this version of Megatron takes visual cues from both G1 (the ever-famous [[Megatron (G1)| buckethead]] and lower legs resembling a pistol&#039;s handgrip) and [[Megatron (Movie)|the Movie version]] of the Decepticon leader (the sharp angles and bits on his shoulders, along with two-toed feet and a demonic-looking face with sharp teeth), even including the jet mode the latter version appeared in.&lt;br /&gt;
*The &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; staff used the same rationale that Megatron would not scan an Earth mode out of disgust at humans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/botcon-2010-transformers-prime-panel-coverage-170054/ BotCon 2010 Transformers Prime Panel Coverage]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to Cybertronian Megatron&#039;s packaging bio, Megatron often changes his altmode, probably in an attempt to explain why he&#039;s a tank in the game and a jet in the cartoon.&lt;br /&gt;
*At a video shown at the 2010 San Diego Comic-Con, Welker explained his &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; voice for Megatron would be mostly toned down from his Generation 1 counterpart, to give the character more range.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/san-diego-comic-con-33/transformers-prime---peter-cullen--frank-welker-behind-the-scenes-170264/ Transformers Prime - Peter Cullen &amp;amp; Frank Welker Behind the Scenes] TFW2005&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When the show aired, Megatron indeed had a more quiet, sinister version of his voice than the iconic shouty one.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (メガトロン &#039;&#039;Megatoron&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Bot Shots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Decepticon leaders]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Gladiators]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Hall of Fame]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Letters page answerers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Dark_Awakening_(episode)&amp;diff=692837</id>
		<title>Talk:Dark Awakening (episode)</title>
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		<updated>2012-03-07T05:50:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The name of the ship Hot Rod and co. use to catch up to the Autobot flagship is properly parsed &amp;quot;Intercept-One&amp;quot;. (Not that we have pages for either that ship or the flagship...) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 22:44, 5 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Under &amp;quot;Continuity Errors&amp;quot;, it says: &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Somehow Hot Rod is able to throw Prime so hard his arm breaks off. Even Megatron couldn&#039;t do that, and there&#039;s no indication that it was weak before.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; I can&#039;t speak for anyone else, but doesn&#039;t Optimus Prime spend the whole episode in a state of crumbly disrepair? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 00:50, 7 March 2012 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Unicron</title>
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		<updated>2012-03-02T20:49:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* The Transformers cartoon */ Slight change in wording.  Trying to decide whether or not to mention the traditional significance of turning grey...&lt;/p&gt;
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{{disambig3|Unicron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron-UltimateGuide.jpg|right|350px|thumb|He&#039;s been ignoring Galactus&#039;s C&amp;amp;D letters.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039; is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother [[Primus]]. Also known as the [[Lord of Chaos]], the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater, he is dedicated to consuming the [[multiverse]]. His massive form is powered by the consumption of planets, moons, stars, and even the very fabric of existence. Unicron will not be sated until his ultimate goal is attained: to bring an end to the annoying creation boasting independence around him, and find peace by becoming the living center of a [[Void|swirling, infinite torrent of nothingness]] at the end of all things. &lt;br /&gt;
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To undertake this seemingly overwhelming task, Unicron is able to travel across realities at will, a meandering plague upon existence itself.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Titanium Series 3&amp;quot; Unicron profile&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Universe Armada Series Unicron bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Integrated into his systems are incomprehensible quantum computers which calculate probabilities forward and backwards in time, in perpetuity, giving his processors an ever changing, evolving map of the multiverse.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Profile, [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors&#039; Club issue 10]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With these abilities at his disposal, Unicron has thus far devoured approximately 22.56% of known universes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to the [[Transcendent Technomorph]]s&#039; records in &amp;quot;[[Withered Hope]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The only thing that he fears is Primus&#039;s essence, contained inside the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. To a being of chaos and uncreation, this font of life is a poison.&lt;br /&gt;
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Frequently, Unicron will make deals with [[Herald of Unicron|lesser beings]], promising them vast new powers in exchange for their servitude. These minions are [[Thunderwing (G1)|sometimes]] stripped entirely of their free will, but [[Sideways (RID)|others]] follow him willingly. Service to Unicron, however, is a double-edged sword, for it causes insanity and loss of self. And in the end, Unicron&#039;s plans ultimately call for their consumption as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Unicron is frightening. Unicron will destroy... will destroy &#039;&#039;space&#039;&#039;.|[[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]]|&amp;quot;[[Uprising]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the beginning==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UK150Unicron.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Saay, that shield looks [[Decepticon|familiar]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
Before the dawn of time, Order and Chaos existed within an extra-dimensional entity known as [[The One]]. To explore the fledgling universe, he created the astral being known as Unicron, and then subdivided him, creating his twin, Primus. Both brothers were [[Multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]], unique in all realities, but whereas Unicron could only exist in one universe at a time, moving between them at will, Primus existed simultaneously in all realities at once. It is suggested, in fact, that the two brothers embody the basic concepts of reality—good and evil, order and chaos—and that their continued existence is necessary for the stability of the multiverse.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Primusoriginal.jpg|right|180px|thumb|&amp;quot;No, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is &#039;&#039;[[RIBFIR|red]]!&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
As Unicron and Primus went about their appointed task, venturing through the cosmos, it became apparent to Primus that Unicron was a corrupt being, and he took it upon himself to stop the threat posed to all of existence by his sibling. In combat, Primus was no match for Unicron. In cunning, however, he proved himself to be his brother&#039;s superior when he shifted their battle to the astral plane, and then back to the physical world once more, only to have both their essences manifest within metallic planetoids, leaving them both trapped. It was with this act of sacrifice that Primus hoped to contain Unicron&#039;s evil forever. Unfortunately for him, over time, Unicron learned to psionically shape his prison into a giant metallic planet, and Primus followed suit, becoming the mechanical world of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. When Unicron then learned to transform his planetary form even further, into a gigantic robot form, Primus adapted the idea to suit his own ends, creating a group of [[Thirteen|thirteen robots]] that possessed the ability to change shape, like Unicron.&lt;br /&gt;
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The war between Unicron and Primus came to its seeming end during a climactic battle in which one of the Thirteen, Megatronus Prime, who would forever afterwards be known as [[The Fallen]], betrayed Primus and became an acolyte of Unicron. The battle ended when the Fallen and Unicron were sucked into a black hole and disappeared from reality. With Unicron gone for now, Primus entered an eons-long slumber, his self-imposed sleep preventing Unicron from detecting him through the mental link the brothers shared.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Evolution of the Primus/Unicron myth===&lt;br /&gt;
The Primus/Unicron backstory has evolved and been rewritten a good number of times since it first originated in the [[Marvel Comics]] series. The version recounted above is the current iteration, which has slowly solidified across a wide swath of media (beginning around the time of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]&#039;&#039;). Before the Primus/Unicron mythos reached its present form it went through several distinct versions in the Marvel Generation 1 comics and elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Unicron&#039;s story====&lt;br /&gt;
The first time the Primus/Unicron backstory appeared was in the UK comic continuity, from Unicron himself, in the story &amp;quot;[[The Legacy of Unicron!]]&amp;quot;, when he recounted it to [[Death&#039;s Head (G1)|Death&#039;s Head]]. Per Unicron&#039;s telling of events, he was a primal force of evil at the dawn of the universe, who led a legion of [[Dark God]]s against his mortal foe, Primus, Lord of the [[Light God]]s. Events proceeded to play out basically as described above, though the role of the Light and Dark Gods would diminish with each subsequent retelling of the story, until the current version, in which Primus and Unicron are alone, and have a unique origin.&lt;br /&gt;
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====The Keeper&#039;s story====&lt;br /&gt;
The second time the story was told was in the United States book by the [[Keeper (Transformer)|Keeper]], an ancient mechanoid who guarded Primus&#039;s head at the center of Cybertron. This telling is effectively the same as the previous UK story, but mentions that their battle was towards the end of the era of gods, that Primus and Unicron were the last of their respective pantheons, and Primus had to defeat Unicron before he could take his place with the other gods in the &amp;quot;[[Omniversal Matrix]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Primus&#039;s story====&lt;br /&gt;
The third time the story was told was also in the United States Marvel series, this time by Primus, when he gathered all his children together to prepare for Unicron&#039;s coming. It was with this telling that we learned that Unicron predated the [[universe (universe)|current universe]], and had destroyed the [[old realms|previous universe]] which existed before the current one. He had slept peacefully, alone in the [[void]] of un-creation that remained, until fragments of the old universe that he had overlooked reacted, causing the Big Bang and birthing the current universe. The &amp;quot;sentient core&amp;quot; of this new universe recognized the threat that Unicron posed, and so created Primus to counter his evil and be guardian of the new creation.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fleer and DK====&lt;br /&gt;
The first modern retelling of the origins of Primus and Unicron did not come from Generation 1-oriented media, but from a set of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; trading cards released by Fleer. It was the backstory printed on Unicron&#039;s card which introduced the concept of the two being brothers created to explore the new universe by an extra-dimensional entity, here named the &amp;quot;[[Allspark]]&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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This was subsequently expanded on and combined with aspects of the various Marvel Comics stories in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]&#039;&#039;, published by Dorling Kindersley and written by [[Simon Furman]], who had written all three prior tellings in the first place. Here, the entity Fleer had called the &amp;quot;Allspark&amp;quot; was redubbed &amp;quot;[[The One]]&amp;quot;, and the modern iteration of the myth detailed above was firmly established, and went on to form the backbone of subsequent fiction such as &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]]&#039;&#039; and [[Fun Publications]]&#039; &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; comics.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PrimalScream-Unicron.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Unicron is furious that he&#039;s been miscolored again.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Eventually, millions of years later, circa the Earth year 1990, a group of Transformers discovered the sleeping form of Primus at Cybertron&#039;s core. When a battle erupted, a stray laser blast struck Primus, briefly jolting the god awake and causing him to emit a multiverse-shaking &amp;quot;Primal Scream&amp;quot; that alerted Unicron to Primus&#039;s location. Primus himself immediately slipped back into his sleep, but it was too late. {{storylink|Primal Scream}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:EyeoftheStorm-possiblefutureUnicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Um, [[multiversal singularity|forget this]], please.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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While devouring the planet [[Ghennix]], Unicron took note of three criminals who were attempting to escape their fate. Unicron destroyed their vessel and recreated the three as [[Hook, Line, and Sinker]]. As the distance to Cybertron was vast and he was too large to teleport, he ordered them to retrieve a [[Galvatron II|Galvatron]] from a [[Rhythms of Darkness!|possible future]] to serve as his herald. {{storylink|All Fall Down}} Though this Galvatron was angry at being plucked from his victorious timeline, Unicron tortured him until he agreed to be his herald. Still, this Galvatron secretly plotted his eventual treachery. Unicron sent all four of them to attack Cybertron and pave the way for his coming. {{storylink|Eye of the Storm}} &lt;br /&gt;
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So close to Cybertron he could &#039;&#039;taste it&#039;&#039;, Unicron decided to forgo consumption of the planet [[Jhi]] and hasten on his way to the ultimate confrontation. His herald Galvatron, however, captured Autobot leader [[Emirate]] [[Xaaron]], forcing him to fully awaken Primus. Suspecting treachery on Galvatron&#039;s part, Unicron sent Hook, Line and Sinker to retrieve him from the subterranean tunnels of Cybertron, but Galvatron destroyed them, and Primus was woken from his slumber. Unicron&#039;s arch-foe possessed Xaaron&#039;s body and summoned Transformers from all across the universe back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Out of Time!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron shut down his higher mental functions and drifted for the remainder of the journey to hide himself from detection by Primus. At this point, a mental command that Unicron had placed in some of Primus&#039;s creations was activated, resulting in the formation of a cult of Unicron-worshipers, who gathered to destroy the leader of the united Autobots and Decepticons. These [[Unicron cultist]]s were drawn out when [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] was named commander of Primus&#039;s army. The cultists tried to assassinate the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]]; they failed, but distracted the Cybertronians long enough for Unicron to sneak up on the planet. {{storylink|The Void! (US)|The Void!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Edgeofextinction-someonefight.jpg|right|150px|thumb|&#039;&#039;He&#039;s got the whooooole world, in his feet...&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After Unicron dug his fist into the planet and ate the flesh of his mortal enemy, he noted that this was the finest meal he had ever tasted. However, he was somewhat disappointed to find that the gathered Transformers were simply so terrified of him that there was no resistance to his attack. As he devoured [[Brainstorm]] from the tip of his finger, he admitted that despite their lack of showmanship, they were at least delicious.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron&#039;s unchecked rampage was soon ensnared by Primus himself, speaking through Emirate Xaaron&#039;s body. For a short moment, Unicron was restrained, but when he deduced that this ruse was a big show put on by an insignificant portion of Primus&#039;s power, he broke free and destroyed the avatar of Primus, killing both Xaaron and his creator.&lt;br /&gt;
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Galvatron, who was worried his treachery was going to waste, attacked Unicron, hoping his bravery would stir the Transformers into action. Galvatron was smacked down, but his gambit paid off as the Transformers snapped out of their collective stupor and began a counter-attack against the Chaos-Bringer. Countless Transformers died in this assault, including the Decepticon leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. But Transformers weren&#039;t the only ones attacking him. Briefly fazed by the illusion-casting powers of the [[human]] [[Neo-Knights|Neo-Knight]] [[Rapture]], Unicron&#039;s systems were attacked by the electrical powers of [[Circuit Breaker]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OntheEdgeofExtinction-toomuch.jpg|left|thumb|300px|For soon you will have life. &#039;&#039;Sweet&#039;&#039; life.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After being clocked by the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], Unicron received another surprise: the thought-lost Creation Matrix had returned, along with its vessel, [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]. Unicron was at first confused, as he&#039;d sensed the Matrix&#039;s destruction, but quickly realized that the Matrix had not been destroyed, but had merely been masked by its seduction by evil. And in the realm of evil, Unicron had no equal! Thunderwing was destroyed, but the Matrix fell to the planet&#039;s surface.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fighting the evil within the Matrix, Optimus Prime grabbed the artifact and launched into Unicron&#039;s maw, where the Creation Matrix was opened. While being pummeled by the flood of life unleashed by the Matrix, Unicron&#039;s body could not maintain structural integrity and exploded. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:JudgmentDay-mist.jpg|right|thumb|150px|So, seriously, what was up with this stuff?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In an alternate 2005, Unicron&#039;s consumption of the planet [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]] was heralded first by strange pink mists&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The original script called this an &amp;quot;electronic mist&amp;quot;. It sets you on fire and melts you.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that leaked from his planet mode&#039;s maw. On route to Cybertron, he encountered an injured Megatron and the bodies of his troops. He offered them new bodies in exchange for hunting down the Matrix. {{storylink|The Planet-Eater!}} As Galvatron was sent forward, Unicron devoured [[Moonbase One]] and [[Moonbase Two]]. {{storylink|Judgment Day!}} Galvatron returned to Unicron with the Matrix, but he intended to use it to make Unicron his slave. In retaliation, Unicron attacked Cybertron in earnest, as the planet was helpless against his assault. Ultimately, during a battle that took place inside Unicron, Rodimus Prime claimed the Matrix of Leadership from Galvatron and the Planet-Eater was destroyed from within. Only his head survived, and it remained in orbit over Cybertron. {{storylink|The Final Battle!}} {{storylink|The Big Broadcast of 2006 (issue)|The Big Broadcast of 2006}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In another alternate 2005, a dying Megatron was found by Unicron. Unicron refashioned Galvatron into his herald, {{storylink|A Savage Circle}} and through their combined efforts, Unicron succeeded in devouring Cybertron. In the aftermath, he allowed Galvatron and his Decepticons to rule Earth. {{storylink|Rhythms of Darkness!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Grimlock accused Optimus Prime of being too focused on Unicron&#039;s imminent arrival, to the detriment of [[Earth]]&#039;s troubles, the Dinobot Commander was allowed to create an [[Earthforce]].&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Break-Away!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;However, Prime had his work cut out for him. With an attempted Decepticon alliance ruined beyond all recovery and the Matrix still lost, Optimus had to turn to the original site of the Underbase—as the Underbase was linked to the centre of Cybertron, the Autobots could tap into that centre (and thus Primus himself) as a substitute Matrix.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|The Magnificent Six!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FallenAngel-Unicron.jpg|left|250px|thumb|And then Rodimus drove up through his entire body to escape through Unicron&#039;s other eye.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the parallel timeline of [[Earth-120185]], Unicron did not arrive at Cybertron until the year 2006, consuming the small planet [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]] on his way. As he drew closer to Cybertron, Unicron came upon the damaged bodies of Decepticon leader [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and several of his Decepticon followers, who had been jettisoned into space following a major battle at [[Autobot City]] on Earth. Unicron extended Megatron a bargain, offering to rebuild him and his troops into new beings to serve him, and tortured the recalcitrant Decepticon leader into accepting. {{storylink|The Planet-Eater!}} Now reborn as [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], Megatron immediately began scheming to destroy his &amp;quot;master&amp;quot;, using a [[time-jump mechanism]] to travel back in time to 1986, where he constructed a solar cannon that was powerful enough to destroy Unicron&#039;s physical form. Fully aware of his pawn&#039;s actions, Unicron took control of the minds of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], and [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] and had them follow Galvatron back in time to foil his plan. {{storylink|Target: 2006}} &lt;br /&gt;
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After Galvatron returned to 2006, he fought [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] within Unicron, where he was defeated and thrown out into space. He still had remote to the [[time-jump mechanism]] and used it to travel back to 1986 again, where he planned to take over the Decepticons so he&#039;d be ready for Unicron when he arrived 20 years later. {{storylink|Fallen Angel}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:LegacyofUnicron-Unicron.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Silly Junkions, you can buy loose Unicrons on eBay for just $20!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Only Unicron&#039;s head survived the explosion of his body, and it floated off through space to eventually crash-land on the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]]. There, the still-conscious Unicron used mind control to force the native [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]] to build him a new body out of the planet. At the beginning of 2008, he pulled [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Death&#039;s Head (G1)|Death&#039;s Head]] into his thrall and used them to re-ignite the stalemated Cybertronian war in order to keep the Autobots distracted from his activities. Amused by Death&#039;s Head&#039;s repeated attempts at defiance, he told him about his origin, only to find himself now under attack by Rodimus Prime and an Autobot strike-team. &lt;br /&gt;
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This &#039;&#039;almost&#039;&#039; went wrong, as Rodimus (at Death&#039;s Head&#039;s suggestion) tried to use the power of the Matrix on the astral plane. Here, however, the Matrix &#039;&#039;strengthened&#039;&#039; Unicron and the monster intended to merge with it for greater power. Ultimately, however, he was defeated by [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]], who had planted explosives under the head&#039;s building site while the Chaos-Bringer was distracted. His head was destroyed, and his mind was sealed within the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WhiteFire-mine.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Rodimus rejects Unicron&#039;s endorsement of the coal industry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On New Year&#039;s Day 2009, Unicron attempted to turn the Matrix towards evil and merge with it again, the only way he could bear being trapped within it. {{storylink|White Fire}} He reached out from within it and took control of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]&#039;s body, {{storylink|Edge of Impact}} only to be stopped when Kup ripped the talisman out of his chest. Unfortunately, this meant they lost their chance to purify the Matrix and that Unicron would be ready for them next time. {{storylink|White Fire}} In 2010, he repeated the trick and transformed Rodimus&#039;s body into a copy of his own before being forced back. In the far future of 2356, Unicron&#039;s essence still resides within the Matrix, steadily withering the struggling body of Rodimus. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Orson Welles]] (English, Movie), [[Roger C. Carmel]] (English, TV series), [[Mizuho Suzuki]] (Japanese, Movie), [[Toshio Ishii]] (Japanese, TV series), [[Jean-Claude Michel]] (French, Movie), [[Manfred Schmidt]] (German, &#039;&#039;Ghost in the Machine&#039;&#039;), [[Thomas Rau]] (German, &#039;&#039;Grimlocks New Brain&#039;&#039;), [[Werner Abrolat]] (German, The Movie TV Dub), [[Thomas Albus]] (German, Generation 2 Dub of &#039;&#039;Ghost in the Machine&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron was constructed by the ancient genius known as [[Primacron (G1)|Primacron]] at the dawn of the universe. Primacron had hoped that Unicron would scour the galaxy clean of life, leaving a blank slate for him to experiment upon, but naturally, Unicron had no desire to be the servant of another, and turned on Primacron, badly wounding him and his [[Oracle (G1)|assistant]], and setting out into the depths of space. {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFTM_Unicron_Lithone.jpg|left|250px|thumb|I see you down there!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the year 2005, Unicron made his most famous attack upon Cybertron. While heading towards the planet, he consumed the small world of [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]], making it perfectly clear how great of a threat he was to the entire universe. As he continued on his way, Unicron&#039;s powers allowed him to become aware of the death of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], who handed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] just before dying, which angered him tremendously. He then came upon the bodies of several wounded and dying Decepticons, who had been dumped into space following a [[Battle of Autobot City|recent battle]] on Earth. He extended a proposition to the Decepticons&#039; leader, [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]], offering to rebuild his body and those of his troops in exchange for their destruction of the Autobot Matrix of Leadership. Tortured into accepting, Megatron was transformed into [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], and his followers became [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], and the [[Sweep]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFTM_Unicron_smashes_cybertron.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Unicron smash!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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While Galvatron set about reclaiming leadership of the Decepticons, Unicron arrived at Cybertron, and proceeded to consume the planet&#039;s two moons. Outraged that Unicron would do this to a planet that he viewed as his, Galvatron found himself the victim of mental torture by his creator, and ordered to Earth to complete the task given him. The ensuing chase finally climaxed in a showdown on the [[Junkion (planet)|planet of Junk]], where Galvatron seized the Matrix and returned to Unicron, only to reveal that he intended to use the talisman to make Unicron his slave. Amused by his pawn&#039;s arrogance, Unicron transformed into his [[Scale|gigantic]] robot mode and ate Galvatron. Unicron then tore into Cybertron, as [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the rest of the Decepticons on the planet fought back, to little effect. Unicron swallowed many spaceships, and one, which contained the young Autobot [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and his comrades, crashed through Unicron&#039;s eye. Hot Rod and Galvatron battled deep inside Unicron, and ultimately, Hot Rod was able to retake the Matrix from the Decepticon. Transformed by its power into [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]], he defeated Galvatron and opened the Matrix inside Unicron, destroying his body from within.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron&#039;s head was blown clear during his death throes, and became caught in Cybertron&#039;s gravity, turning it into a new moon for the planet — a grisly testament to the satellites he had destroyed. {{Storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron head orbit.jpg|180px|left|thumb|Incoming message from the [[Grand Mal|Big, Giant Head]]!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the year 2006, Cyclonus, Scourge and the Sweeps visited Unicron&#039;s head, seeking to locate Galvatron, who had been hurled into space at the conclusion of his battle with Rodimus Prime. After accessing the remaining databanks and replaying footage of the final battle, Cyclonus extrapolated Galvatron&#039;s trajectory and current location. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GhostMachine Unicron starscream jumpers.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Unicron&#039;s glad he got that Triple-A membership.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the planet home to the monster known as [[Chaos (alien)|Chaos]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] proclaimed that Galvatron would be &amp;quot;more famous in history than Unicron&amp;quot; once Galvatron destroyed Cybertron with his newly-built death crystal cannon. {{storylink|Chaos (episode)|Chaos}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, the ghost of the deceased Decepticon [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] reactivated Unicron&#039;s head in order to make a bargain with him; in exchange for Unicron restoring his body, Starscream would recreate Unicron&#039;s. Stealing new optic circuits and a transformation cog for Unicron from [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], Starscream was then directed to connect Unicron&#039;s head to Cybertron, so that the planet could become his new body. Starscream initially attempted to do this by using Trypticon&#039;s body, but Trypticon was deactivated by the Decepticons. Unicron restored Starscream&#039;s body so that he could finish the task, but Starscream (somewhat predictably, being Starscream) double-crossed Unicron and refused to complete the necessary connections. Just then, explosives set by the Autobots were detonated, hurling Unicron&#039;s head off the planet, beyond its gravity, and out into space. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeking a supply of the dangerous particles known as [[anti-electron]]s, Galvatron and the Decepticons traveled to Unicron&#039;s head, only to come under attack from the defenses of the barely-aware giant. Also present was the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], who used components from Unicron&#039;s head to create the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] to fight Galvatron&#039;s forces. The Technobot [[Strafe (G1)|Strafe]] disconnected enough of Unicron&#039;s internal mechanisms to deactivate his systems. {{storylink|Grimlock&#039;s New Brain}}&lt;br /&gt;
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While a much older Primacron mused about how his new creation, [[Tornedron]], would succeed where &amp;quot;the other&amp;quot; had failed, the giant, damaged head of Unicron was visible floating along in the depths of space, where it had apparently faded to a dull grey. {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following his destruction in 2005, Unicron&#039;s [[Angolmois|lifeforce]] was scattered across time and space, fragmented and parasitized into Autobot and [[Maximal]] leaders throughout history. In 2007, three of his servants, the [[Sparkbot]]s, sought to recreate their master, and tricked the human singing group, the [[Kiss Players (singing group)|Kiss Players]]—[[Marissa Faireborn]], [[Atari Hitotonari]] and [[Shaoshao Li]]—into helping them in their task by telling them that they were gathering the fragments of the so-called &amp;quot;Allspark&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Primus]] was forced to take action to stop their mission, appearing as a giant golden hand to steal away the energy fragments before the Sparkbots could collect them, but eventually, the evil trio collected enough to accomplish their dire task. Fleeing back in time to [[Earth]]&#039;s prehistoric past, they unleashed the energy and Unicron began to form around them. Following the Sparkbots back to the past, Primus unleashed the full firepower of his mobile battle platform&#039;s cannon, sealing Unicron&#039;s energy and the Sparkbots deep within the planet. He then created the mighty [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus]] to serve as a guardian and ensure that the evil being was never again reborn. {{storylink|Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|Kiss Players radio drama #51}}&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point in the far future, human beings discovered Unicron&#039;s lifeforce within the Earth, and attempted to harness it for their own means. This resulted in the devastation of the planet Earth, reducing it to a ruin, {{storylink|Emissary of the Fourth Planet}} but the fame of this &amp;quot;mysterious energy&amp;quot; that had been called &amp;quot;[[Angolmois]]&amp;quot; was far-reaching, and eventually, tens of thousands of years after the end of the Great War between the Autobots and Decepticons, the Predacon leader [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] attempted to harvest it for himself. {{storylink|The New Forces Arrive!}} Using his artificial planet, [[Nemesis (BWII)|Nemesis]], he sucked all the Angolmois energy out of the planet and into the craft. However, after the interference of [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Lio Junior]], all the Angolmois energy was sealed into capsules and ejected from Nemesis as it self-destructed. {{storylink|Farewell! Lio Convoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Teams of Maximals and Predacons, led by [[Big Convoy]] and [[Magmatron]] respectively, then raced to collect the Angolmois capsules, as their energy effects were wreaking havoc on planets all over the galaxy. {{storylink|Big Convoy, Move Out}} &lt;br /&gt;
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They eventually collected all the capsules only to find themselves attacked by the mysterious and freakish [[Blendtron]]s. The Blendtrons, in truth servants of Unicron seeking to engineer his rebirth, proved nearly invincible, and stole the capsules from each team. {{storylink|Mysterious Beast Warriors!?}} They released the Angolmois energy and allowed it to possess Galvatron&#039;s dead body, restoring Unicron to life in a new form. {{storylink|Unicron Revived!?}} Unicron absorbed the last remaining ounce of stray Angolmois energy—the Blendtrons themselves—and left to settle his score with Cybertron. [[Great Convoy]] attempted to hold Unicron off with the entire Maximal armada, but Unicron&#039;s fiery serpent mode proved too much and he effortlessly destroyed the armada and Great Convoy along with it. Unicron then possessed [[Vector Sigma]], the mother computer of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], effectively possessing the planet, and morphed Cybertron into his new body. {{storylink|End of the Maximals!?}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron then briefly exited Vector Sigma to deal with the last remaining Cybertronian resistance. {{storylink|The Final Battle (BWN)|The Final Battle}} Big Convoy, his Maximal new recruits, Lio Convoy and Magmatron all fought side-by-side against Unicron, but all they managed to do was stall him. Big Convoy then powered up his Big Cannon with his own [[Energon Matrix|Matrix]], transforming it into the Matrix Buster. Big Convoy shot Unicron with the weapon, the powerful blast seemingly destroying the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|The Final Battle (BWN)|The Final Battle}} Unicron&#039;s spirit was then evicted from Vector Sigma, returning Cybertron to normal. {{storylink|Graduation Ceremony!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After his destruction in 2005, Unicron&#039;s displaced lifeforce became trapped within the planet Earth, where it was eventually discovered and manipulated by humankind (who were unaware of its origins). This resulted in the devastation of the planet, but the fame of this &amp;quot;mysterious energy&amp;quot; that had been called &amp;quot;[[Angolmois]]&amp;quot; was far-reaching, and eventually, twenty million years after Unicron&#039;s destruction, {{storylink|Double Cross}} the Predacon leader [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] travelled to the deserted Earth (now known as [[Gaea]]) and attempted to harvest it for himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Maximal energon survey team was sent to the planet Unicron, but it lost contact with [[Maximal Army Central Headquarters]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This is possibly a vague hint to the role Unicron would play in the greater &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039;-&#039;&#039;Neo&#039;&#039; story, or a [[Easter egg|reference]] inserted by the [[Authorial intent|author]] before Unicron&#039;s inclusion as the source of Angolmois was decided upon.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; {{storylink|Demolish the Superdreadnought Tank!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Galvatron eventually succeeded in sucking-up all the Angolomois energy on Gaea into his artificial planet [[Nemesis (BWII)|Nemesis]]. {{storylink|All Hands, Make a Special Attack on the Evil Planet!}} The Maximals journeyed to Nemesis to stop him, only for Lio Convoy to become corrupted by the Angolmois energy, turning  a Predacon. Lio Convoy was able to channel the true spiritual energy of Gaea through his [[Energon Matrix]], however, and disspell the taint, restoring himself. He then used that same power to destroy Nemesis, the Angolmois, Galvatron and the Predacons. {{storylink|Win the Battle of Light and Darkness!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars Neo&#039;&#039; manga=====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bwn-blackball-manga-01-bigconvoy.jpg|thumb|right|200px|&amp;quot;Reply hazy, try again&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the planet Gaea, a group of Predacons somehow came into possession of a mysterious spheroid object known as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Black Ball&#039;&#039;&#039;. The strange artifact was of some importance to the Predacons; it may in fact have told Magmatron that he could rule the galaxy once he had the seven [[Angolmois]] capsules.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:bwn-unicron-manga-07-unionfleet.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When Big Convoy came to rescue five Maximal rookies who were trapped in the &#039;&#039;[[Galvaburg II]]&#039;&#039; on Gaea, the Maximals found the Black Ball and retrieved it.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Maximal returned to the &#039;&#039;[[Gung Ho]]&#039;&#039;, they attempted to analyze the Black Ball. However, the Black Ball activated the ship&#039;s warp engine. {{storylink|The 5 Rookies}} During the warp, the Black Ball began to speak, telling the Maximals about the Angolmois capsules, which originated from the final conflict between [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] on [[Nemesis (BWII)|Nemesis]]. It also told them that there were seven Angolmois energy capsules scattered across the galaxy in total. The Maximals were warned that they must retrieve all the capsules to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands, or the galaxy would be in extreme danger. The &#039;&#039;Gung Ho&#039;&#039; subsequently arrived at the planet [[Luxor]], where one of the capsules was located. {{storylink|There Are 7 Capsules}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Black Ball guided Big Convoy&#039;s team to various other places where capsules were located.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Magmatron, who was in a healing chamber in the &#039;&#039;[[Dinosaur (ship)|Dinosaur]]&#039;&#039; due to wounds caused by Big Convoy, learned that he lost his troops in the battle on [[Jörmungandr]], the Black Ball suddenly appeared. The Black Ball told Magmatron that it could see he was short-handed and offered Magmatron some &amp;quot;helpers&amp;quot;—the [[Blendtron]]s, who emerged from within the Black Ball. {{storylink|A Battle Fought Alone}} &lt;br /&gt;
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The Black Ball told both Big Convoy and Magmatron of the planet where the last capsule was located. Magmatron faced off with Big Convoy there, and ordered the Blendtrons to attack the Maximals. One of the Blendtrons, however, chose to attack Magmatron instead. The action of the Blendtrons baffled both Big Convoy and Magmatron alike. The Black Ball then arrived on the planet&#039;s surface.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was revealed that the Black Ball was actually Unicron himself, or more specifically, his essence, while the Angolmois energy was his life force. Unicron absorbed the six capsules and reformed his head out of the Black Ball. He then revealed that the last capsule was actually both Big Convoy and Magmatron, who were evolved by the power of the Angolmois capsule on their home planet in the [[7th Cosmos]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Big Convoy teamed up with Magmatron to fight against Unicron, but both failed. Big Convoy was saved by [[Heinrad]], who told him about Unicron&#039;s existence and the plan of the [[Ruler of Time and Space]] — to erase the universe and create a new universe without Unicron, the &amp;quot;cancer&amp;quot;. After Heinrad was forced to leave due to his interference, Magmatron was chewed up and spat out by Unicron.{{storylink|Double Cross}} Unicron then headed to the planet Cybertron. He latched onto the planet like a parasite and turned it into his new body.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:bwn-bigconvoy&amp;amp;unicron-manga-07-1.jpg|thumb|200px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron desired to consume Big Convoy, the last half of the capsule, in order to make his right eye fully functional once more. His physical body was destroyed by Big Convoy after a harsh battle with Big Convoy&#039;s crew. However, Unicron&#039;s essence emerged from his physical remains and plastered itself onto Big Convoy&#039;s body, trying to possess him. Big Convoy removed the [[Energon Matrix|Matrix]] from his chest and unleashed its power, sacrificing himself and successfully destroying Unicron once and for all. {{storylink|Return to Zero}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GenerationOne0-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|&amp;quot;Say, do you remember that time Leonardo Leonardo tried to open that convenience store across the street?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron&#039;s servant, [[The Fallen]], tried to bring about his second coming by breaking the [[Seal of Primus]], but failed. {{storylink|Conflagration}} Unicron sent a wave of drones and heralds into the universe, with the Alpha Drone, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], arriving on Cybertron 3000 years ago, amidst the [[Great Shutdown]], which he ended when he reactivated Shockwave for research purposes. {{storylink|Generation 1 issue 0|Generation 1 #0}} Shockwave happily shot him and experimented on him, and through these experiments became interesting in uncovering the secrets to Cybertron&#039;s history. This curiosity led him to steal the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and activate [[Vector Sigma]], which sent a beam across space that roused Unicron from his slumber. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Now awake, but not at full power or consciousness, Unicron set out on a course towards [[Earth]](!). The planets he consumed along his way, including the planet [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]], accelerated his rejuvenation quicker than [[Quintesson]] spectators had calculated. Using the raw materials Unicron harvested from Lithone, he created a new batch of drones based on a second body template. Subsequently, [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] burst free from his birthing pod. {{storylink|Generation 1 issue 0|Generation 1 #0}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Unicron was to be part of a plotline in 2005, starting from [[Unreleased Dreamwave issues#issue 13|#13]], but even his might was helpless against [[Pat Lee]]&#039;s business skills. The reason for the Quintessons&#039; interest in Unicron was never revealed.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BlackHorizon2-Unicron.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Unicron, [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]], what&#039;s the diff?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Here, Unicron enslaved the population of the worlds he ate to maintain his inner works; one race included the [[Beastformer]]s. He is known about in Transformer legend, and is said to have been banished from his homeworld.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thousands of years ago, when humanity was at a primitive stage, Unicron turned up to devour the Earth. The ancestors of [[Cobra-La]], however, had developed a [[metal-eating spore]] that could potentially kill Unicron. They came to an agreement—they would go into exile, while Unicron would merely eat human civilisation once it had developed to a useful point. Eventually they did, and Unicron began broadcasting announcements of &amp;quot;I Return&amp;quot; as he headed towards Earth. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron&#039;s DDP Brain.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Who needs all those TV monitors, anyway?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron reached Earth and transformed so as to consume civilization in robot form. [[Japan]] was devastated and humanity collectively wet itself. But the world was saved by [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] and [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]], who flew into the Chaos-Bringer and doused his organic looking brain with Cobra-La&#039;s metal-eating spores. Unicron was killed, the world was saved, and [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] went on to explore the dead monster&#039;s innards. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Despite being written after the retcon that established Unicron as a multiversal singularity, this story pays little heed to that concept, refraining from touching upon the Primus/Unicron mythology and instead claiming Unicron was banished at the hands of his own race. Of course, this is only what the Cobra-Lavians &#039;&#039;believe&#039;&#039; about Unicron, so there&#039;s wiggle room. His strange organic brain, meanwhile, was explained in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II]]&#039;&#039;, which revealed that this particular body of Unicron&#039;s came from the universe of the [[GoBots (franchise)|GoBots]], who share that feature. His uncharacteristic willingness to only eat parts of worlds and leave their populations alive to serve him, and his death-by-fungus, however, are harder to explain away.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Era cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|From most stories of Unicron told in this continuity, it is apparent that he staged an attack upon Cybertron in 2005 as he did in several other timelines, and that his head orbited Cybertron following his destruction as it did in the Generation 1 cartoon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice Actor:&#039;&#039; [[Blu Mankuma]] (English), [[Hidetoshi Nakamura]] (Japanese)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Possession-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|250px|This model must have taken them, what, three minutes?]]&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] appeared on prehistoric [[Earth]] and was questioned by the stranded [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] about how he came to be this way, Starscream &amp;quot;explained&amp;quot; that his body was destroyed by Unicron while serving his master, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. This was, of course, a misrepresentation, and it was revealed later that it was actually Galvatron himself who killed Starscream. {{storylink|Possession}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the [[Vok]] spoke with [[Optimus Primal]] in Earth&#039;s pre-history, they took the form of Unicron&#039;s head, claiming that they scanned his mind and chose Unicron as an &amp;quot;authority figure&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] would later invoke the name of Unicron by referring to [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] as &amp;quot;Unicron&#039;s spawn&amp;quot; in a derogatory manner. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the dawn of time, Unicron recruited the [[Quintesson]]s to seek out the location of his nemesis, [[Primus]]. But when the Quintessons discovered Primus, now having taken the form of the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], they decided to delay reporting their findings so they could first exploit Primus to their own ends. After finding the &amp;quot;[[Vector Sigma|singular threat]]&amp;quot; to Unicron and discovering how to subvert it, they used it to create a [[Transformer|race of robotic beings]] which they could sell to other worlds for a price. {{storylink|Disclosure}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicrons dark essence.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Even Unicron&#039;s crap is evil.]]&lt;br /&gt;
After his destruction in 2005, Unicron&#039;s essence was sent spiraling through time and space, to crash on prehistoric Earth, prior to the conflict known as the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] which would occur on the planet. It is unclear if this was a deliberate attempt by Unicron to preserve his power or not, but this &amp;quot;[[Dark Essence]]&amp;quot; seemed to lack any real sentience, suggesting that it was merely Unicron&#039;s &amp;quot;power&amp;quot;, while his spark remained in his intact head in the future. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Terminus-Unicron.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Unicron makes his own light saber noises.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Dark Essence was discovered by a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] known as the Hunter, who recognized the dark god&#039;s power, and fashioned from the Essence the [[Matrix of Conquest]], a twisted version of the Autobot Matrix of Leadership which he used to conquer and rule over an apocalyptic 32nd Century future, under the name &amp;quot;[[Shokaract]]&amp;quot;. Resistance against Shokaract resulted in an attempt by his opponents to travel back in time and destroy the Dark Essence on prehistoric Earth, thereby erasing Shokaract from history, but the villain travelled back in time to stop this effort. [[Point Omega|A massive battle]] between him and Transformers from throughout the multiverse ensued, but eventually, thanks to the efforts of the [[Covenant]], history was altered so that Unicron&#039;s essence never arrived on prehistoric Earth, erasing this timeline—and Shokaract—from existence. {{storylink|Terminus (issue)|Terminus}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PrimevalDawn2-Unicron.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Predicting that Unicron will eventually show up is a pretty safe bet, really.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Just after the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] ended on prehistoric Earth, the [[Vok]] assembled a team from the remains of that war to counter [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]], Unicron&#039;s spawn. [[Primal Prime]], the leader of the Vok&#039;s team, had visions of a future apocalypse, involving Unicron, that encompassed every timeline in the [[multiverse]]. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 2}} After Tarantulas ripped the [[Matrix of Leadership]] from Primal Prime&#039;s torso, he oversaw the construction of a [[transwarp]] portal that would allow him to bring his prize as an offering to Unicron. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Though [[3H Productions|3H]] folded before this story could be completed, Tarantulas would of course not be successful, and the Matrix would be returned to its rightful place. (Because, you know, the [[Transformers: Universe (comic)|&#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; stories]] took place chronologically after it.)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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One week after the [[Great Reformatting]], the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] gangster [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]] succeeded in acquiring the [[Divine Light]], one of the Quintessons&#039; discarded attempts to subvert the will of Primus. As Cryotek used it steal Primus&#039;s power for himself, [[Sentinel Maximus]] warned him that flaunting Primus&#039;s power would catch the attention of Unicron and doom them all. Cryotek laughed at this, since Unicron had been dead since three centuries earlier, and the idea of his resurrection was a fairytale believed only by the naive. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UnicronDeathstarII.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Guys. GUYS. Get that ring in the right place, or he&#039;ll never be able to eat.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Cryotek was defeated, and one year later Unicron struck once more. His body ruined and trapped between universes, he sought to revitalize himself by abducting Transformers from across the multiverse and pitting them against each other within the [[Cauldron]], a dark dimension contained within his own body, absorbing their [[energon radiation]] and eventually consuming their sparks. He chose to kidnap several Autobots and Maximals from the technorganic Cybertron, but that was also the staging ground from which Primus chose to launch a counterattack. Primus gathered an army from many different universes and put the resurrected [[Optimus Primal]] at its head. {{storylink|Abduction}}&lt;br /&gt;
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These &amp;quot;[[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]]&amp;quot; raided Unicron to free his captives from their prison cities, battling Unicron&#039;s own legion of &amp;quot;[[Minion of Unicron|Minions]]&amp;quot; all the while. [[Universe war|These conflicts]] escalated for months or perhaps longer, their intensity rivaling the [[Cybertronian Civil Wars|Great Wars]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Optimus Primal&#039;s bio in the [[Revelations Part 3|Transformers Collectors&#039; Club comic #9]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This all came to an abrupt end during the final battle, when Unicron simply vanished due somehow to the [[Unicron Singularity]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====IDW &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; comics====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ascending4-Shokaractsfuture.jpg|left|thumb|300px|FOOLISH, DOOMED CREATURE.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sometime after a series of events similar to those of [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Big Convoy]]&#039;s [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|experiences]] [[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (franchise)|on]] [[Gaea]] in another universe, Unicron&#039;s heralds, the [[Blendtron]]s, were instructed by the Chaos Bringer&#039;s essence to gather the [[Angolmois]] capsules scattered across the galaxy, which contained Unicron&#039;s energy. The taint of Angolmois would cause unrest and violence across Cybertron as the planet tore itself apart in renewed savage mindless conflict. At the same time, Unicron&#039;s chosen yet unwitting vessel, Shokaract, was fed Angolmois by the Blendtrons, having been convinced that it would grant him the power to be reborn as a god. In one potential timeline, this did indeed happen as Unicron was reborn from Shokaract&#039;s corrupted form, and the Chaos Bringer proceeded to consume Cybertron itself. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 1|The Ascending #1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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However, this was averted before it came to pass—thanks to the actions of the in-temporal-limbo [[Magmatron]], who alerted [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and by extension Lio Convoy to Unicron&#039;s plan and enlightened Shokaract when the tyrant was temporarily shunted into Magmatron&#039;s personal purgatory. Realizing what his ascension actually entailed, Shokaract tore the [[Matrix of Conquest|Anti-Matrix]] from his chest, sacrificing himself and ending Unicron&#039;s plan at re-ascension. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 4|The Ascending #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
During Megatron&#039;s rule of Cybertron, [[Rattrap]] once compared the Predacon&#039;s [[Grand Mal|big floating head]] as a &amp;quot;monument to Unicron&amp;quot;, implying that the Chaos Bringer&#039;s head orbited Cybertron after his defeat. By the time of Megatron&#039;s rule, however, it had apparently left the planet&#039;s orbit, as it was never seen. {{storylink|Prometheus Unbound}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; CD-ROM comic===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unicron tfu cdrom.jpg|left|thumb|200px|I&#039;m gonna steal every single Decepticon every single year. Nobody investigate, mmmkay?]]&lt;br /&gt;
In a universe where [[Optimus Primal]] led the [[Autobot]]s and [[Reptilion]] led the [[Decepticon]]s, a ship arrived once a year when the Transformers&#039; civil war reached a fever pitch. The ship abducted every Decepticon it could find and promptly left.&lt;br /&gt;
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These Decepticons were brought to Unicron, who was preparing them for an eventual, ultimate battle for the universe. But unknown to even Unicron, Primus, the sentient core of Cybertron, was amassing an army of Autobots that rivalled Unicron&#039;s army of Decepticons. Could Primus meet Unicron&#039;s challenge, or was the universe doomed? {{Storylink|Universe CD-ROM}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unicron Trilogy==&lt;br /&gt;
===Toy pack-in comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Armadaminicomic4-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Check out my tiny buildings!]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Transformers were unaware of Unicron&#039;s gradual approach during the climax of their civil war. [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] was defeated and imprisoned, and just when he had escaped, the Planet-Eater suddenly appeared over their planet. Only time would tell if the Transformers could possibly defeat him! {{storylink|Armada Volume 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently, they could, and years later Galvatron was reborn as Megatron deep inside the [[Unicron&#039;s core|core]] of the defeated Unicron. {{storylink|Energon Volume 1}} The threat of Unicron still loomed over the [[Transformer]]s. {{Storylink|Energon Volume 2}} {{Storylink|Energon Volume 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====Dreamwave &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; comic====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TheEnd-Unicron.jpg|right|thumb|300px|The southern hemisphere is known as the &amp;quot;footsmell&amp;quot; region.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The nearly-dead body of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|a dying Cybertron&#039;s Optimus Prime]] was sent ahead by Unicron to his next target universe, as a &amp;quot;calling card&amp;quot;. Additionally, Unicron sent a group of heralds—incarnations of [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], and [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]—to this second universe to find the Mini-Con Matrix and kill that universe&#039;s Optimus Prime and Megatron. The heralds did not realize that their target Optimus Prime had been accidentally transported to the initial, dying Cybertron. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 1 of 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime found one lone survivor, [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]], and begged him to tell him what was going on. Spinister told him that the &amp;quot;heart of darkness, the root of all evil&amp;quot; had ravaged their world. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 3 of 4}} When Unicron loomed over them, Spinister surrendered himself to his fate. Spinister soon returned as an avatar for Unicron, who found this Optimus Prime&#039;s presence to be an &amp;quot;anomaly&amp;quot;. Soon [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] managed to trace Optimus Prime to this dying universe and travel there to rescue him. Using the power of the Mini-Con Matrix, Prime and Jetfire were able to combine into Jet Optimus and fire a powerful shot into the heart of Unicron. Though they were too late to save this Cybertron, they could return home and prepare for Unicron&#039;s coming there. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 4 of 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime called for an alliance with the Decepticons and the Mini-Cons, hoping to unite their forces against the coming Dark god. After warping to Cybertron&#039;s surface, Unicron himself arrived, and announced that they would all soon be consumed. During the following battle, Unicron was curious about the Transformers [[Airazor (Armada)|Airazor]], [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], [[Rhinox (Armada)|Rhinox]] and [[Terrorsaur (Armada)|Terrorsaur]], and abducted them for future purposes. Unicron was ultimately defeated by the Mini-Con Matrix, boosted from the additional power of two universes&#039; Mini-Cons. This universe&#039;s [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], having made a bid for Unicron&#039;s power, was standing on the surface of the planet-eater when he was destroyed, and his body was also lost, his spark trapped within Unicron&#039;s remains. {{storylink|The End}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; comic====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ThisEvilReborn-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|You never see him transform to robot mode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ten years later, his broken body was still left floating in space after his defeat. Despite his damaged form, his [[Unicron&#039;s core|core]] presented huge potentials for power, and so [[Alpha Quintesson]] gathered together a group of Decepticon dissidents under the leadership of [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] and transformed them into &amp;quot;[[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]]&amp;quot;. He promised these Terrorcons this power in exchange for their services. Meanwhile, Megatron&#039;s consciousness was trapped within this core, and it called out to Optimus Prime to help free him. Alpha Quintesson was secretly working for Unicron himself, and he sent the corrupted forms of Airazor, Cheetor, Rhinox, and Terrorsaur, his &amp;quot;[[Unicron&#039;s Four Horsemen|Four Horsemen]]&amp;quot;, to Cybertron to distract the Autobots from Unicron&#039;s revival. {{storylink|This Evil Reborn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime, who received Megatron&#039;s message, turned to the [[Autobot High Council]] for permission to dedicate an army towards Unicron&#039;s return and his intent to consume alleged huge amounts of [[energon]] on Earth, but the Council dismissed these concerns as paranoia. While they did not grant Prime his army, they did permit him to travel to Earth alone. Before Prime could get out of the building, Unicron&#039;s Horsemen struck. Prime and the Council realized this was an act of war perpetrated by Unicron, and so Prime&#039;s original pleas were finally heard. &lt;br /&gt;
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As drones continued to repair Unicron, Megatron managed to assert his will on these drones, who fashioned him a new body. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WhatLiesBeneath3-Unicroninterior.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Unicron has a big [[negative universe]] [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] collection.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After defeating Scorponok and his Terrorcons on Earth, Optimus Prime stepped through a portal back to Cybertron to assemble a team of reinforcments... but instead on the other end of the portal he found himself within Unicron himself, summoned by Megatron&#039;s consciousness. {{storylink|Omni-Potent}} Optimus Prime argued with Megatron, denying that he would ever help his thought-dead foe inhabit his new body. Megatron countered with images of a massive-scale Terrorcon attack on Earth. Alpha Quintesson had used Unicron&#039;s power to reconfigure [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] into Mirage, and [[Moscow]], [[Toronto]], and [[Los Angeles]] were under heavy siege. Still, Optimus Prime resisted helping Megatron, even with the promise of teaming up to destroy the remnants of Unicron, as he feared releasing Megatron in his new body would be unleashing an equal evil. &lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, after images of carnage on Earth overwhelmed him, Optimus Prime caved to Megatron&#039;s demands, and Prime began travelling through Unicron under Megatron&#039;s direction. After falling in some goo, Prime located the sensor array that was keeping Megatron&#039;s consciousness from entering his new body. It worked, and Megatron was free... though Optimus Prime was subsequently located by Unicron&#039;s internal defenses. He is last seen having defeated these antibodies, with a bandolier and his hand-held cannon, telling Unicron he was coming for him. {{storylink|Multiplicity}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|In unreleased issues:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Previously, Unicron had destroyed [[Quintessa]], and [[Alpha Quintesson]] was the sole survivor. With the [[Initiator]], Alpha attempted to escape Unicron, only for his ship to be pulled to the planet eater. {{storylink|Doomsday Redux!}}  The energon used for Unicron&#039;s reactivation came not from Earth, but from [[Nervissa]], a fact Optimus Prime discovered after connecting to Unicron&#039;s consciousness. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 1}} Alpha Quintesson sought to destroy Unicron and had a [[seismic-shock warhead]] teleported to Unicron. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 2}} In the later chaos of an alternate-universe [[Quintesson]] invasion of Cybertron, Unicron awoke and began to strike out against the Transformers. Realizing that their planet was open to Unicron&#039;s attack, the Quintessons attacked Unicron, to no avail. The Quintessons are destroyed, and the Transformers manage to delay Unicron enough for the warhead to explode, destroying the planet. The shockwaves from Unicron&#039;s destruction created a [[Unicron Singularity|black hole]] from the portal to the alternate-universe Quintessa. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron was evidently very active in this universe at various points in time, although the precise chronological order of his activities is unclear.&lt;br /&gt;
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At some undetermined point in the past of this universe, Unicron was approached by the survivors of [[Planet X (Cybertron)|Planet X]], a world that had been destroyed in a war with the inhabitants of the Giant Planet, [[Gigantion]]. In return for the chance to gain revenge on Gigantion, the survivors swore loyalty to Unicron, and &amp;quot;Planet X&amp;quot; became something of a code-phrase that identified those in the service of the planet-eater.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Liner notes included with the DVD release of &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039; in [[Japan]] claim that Planet X is actually the body of Unicron from a parallel universe. This would not appear to be compatible with the Western storyline, nor, indeed, with the date later given to the planet&#039;s destruction on the [[TakaraTomy]] &amp;quot;[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/bible/index.html World of the Transformers]&amp;quot; website.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Cybertronian legend refers to an attack by Unicron on the planet that was ultimately thwarted by the mighty Autobot warrior, [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|Omega Supreme]]. {{storylink|Omega Supreme (episode)|Omega Supreme}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Alliance-Unicronmoon.jpg|right|thumb|200px|That&#039;s no moon!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron&#039;s first attack on Cybertron in the present day was an indirect one, over a million years in the making, begun when he opted to disguise his dormant body as Cybertron&#039;s moon. From this secret vantage point, he implanted his own cells within the planet, where they germinated and grew into the small race of robots known as the [[Mini-Con]]s. Unicron hoped to use the Mini-Cons to increase the ferocity of the Autobot/Decepticon war, and feed off of the energies released in the conflict, but an encounter with a group of [[Rad White|time-displaced]] [[Carlos Lopez|human]] [[Alexis Thi Dang|children]] planted the seed of sentience and free will within the Mini-Cons, who ultimately rebelled against their creator and fled Cybertron, crash-landing on the planet Earth. {{storylink|Origin}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Union-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Don&#039;t mind me, just chillin&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Mini-Cons were reawakened a million years later in 2010, they were detected by the Autobots and Decepticons, who followed their signal to Earth. {{storylink|First Encounter}} Unicron also picked up the signal, and dispatched his minion [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], an inhabitant of Planet X who would occasionally serve as an avatar for Unicron&#039;s spark, to carry on his work. {{storylink|Gale}} Sideways escalated the conflict by manipulating control of the three Mini-Con weapons, the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]], the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom]] shield and the [[Requiem Blaster (Armada)|Requiem Blaster]], but eventually arranged for all three to be returned to Cybertron, where he stole them and used them to reawaken Unicron.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ArmadaUnicron02.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The Power Cosmic gives you wrinkles.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Shedding his moon disguise and transforming to robot mode, Unicron turned on Cybertron, only to be met with resistance in the form of the united armada of Autobots and Decepticons {{storylink|Alliance}}, and his own Mini-Cons, who had linked together and formed a giant duplicate of his body. {{storylink|Union}} Now at full power, however, it was child&#039;s play for Unicron to exert control over his creations, and bring the Mini-Cons under his thumb once more. Again, it was thanks to the Autobots&#039; human allies—the same children who had been sent back in time and given the Mini-Cons free will in the first place—that the Mini-Cons struggled free of Unicron&#039;s control, including the three Mini-Con weapons, who broke free and left Unicron&#039;s body deactivated. Believing the threat over, [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] then challenged Optimus Prime to their final battle, only for the hatred and ferocity of their fight to awaken Unicron once more. To end the circle of hate that gave Unicron life, Galvatron allowed himself to be consumed by the monster, and in a brilliant flash of light, Unicron apparently ceased to exist. {{storylink|Mortal Combat}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[David Kaye]], [[Mark Acheson]] (English), [[Nobutoshi Canna]] (Japanese), [[Fredrik Beckmann]] (Swedish)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MegatronRaid Unicronhead.jpg|left|thumb|200px|If I need to steal [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]&#039;s eyes again, I quit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In truth, however, Unicron had survived, and for the next ten years, continued to consume planets in other regions of space. One such planet was the world known as [[Planet Q]], whose inhabitants fought back by detonating the planet&#039;s core in Unicron&#039;s face. Badly damaged by the explosion, Unicron fell into a state of dormancy, but the life essence of the planet&#039;s ruler—the being who would come to be known as [[Alpha Quintesson|Alpha Q]]—continued to exist within him, and began a not-entirely-sane plan to use Unicron&#039;s powers to recreate everything the Chaos-Bringer had ever destroyed. {{storylink|Alpha Q: Identity}} Recreating the armies of Planet Q as &amp;quot;Terrorcons&amp;quot;, Alpha Q had them attack Autobot facilities on Earth and throughout the [[solar system]] to gather the [[energon]] that would be necessary for his plan to work. {{storylink|Cybertron City (episode)|Cybertron City}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energon Unicron.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Unicron sported [[Neon|awesome]] [[Black repaint|colors]] during &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unbeknownst to Alpha Q, Megatron&#039;s corpse and spark remained within Unicron, and he slowly siphoned off some of the gathered Energon, allowing him to be reborn in his own new body. To escape Megatron&#039;s fury, Alpha Q jettisoned Unicron&#039;s head and escaped in it, while Megatron took over Unicron&#039;s body, and continued to gather Energon in order to rebuild Unicron to use as his ultimate weapon. {{storylink|Megatron Resurrected}} As the climax of this plan neared, a joint attack by Alpha Q, the Autobots and their human allies saw all of Earth&#039;s Energon channeled into Unicron&#039;s head, which Alpha Q then rammed into Unicron&#039;s body. {{storylink|Unicron Unleashed}} The positively-charged Energon of Earth reacted with the negatively-charged Energon running through Unicron, tearing open a fissure in reality leading to a new area of space where planets Unicron consumed were recreated, and sustained through the Energon radiated from Unicron&#039;s head, which had now become a glowing red sun. {{storylink|Open Fire!}} {{storylink|Ripped Up Space}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron eats blizzard.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Unicron should stop eating so many Blizzards.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron&#039;s body, damaged once more, lay in the dark reaches near the fissure, and the Decepticons began to raid Alpha Q&#039;s new planets for the Energon necessary to revive Unicron again. {{storylink|A Heroic Battle}} This time, they succeeded, and Megatron directed Unicron&#039;s body to retrieve his head, extinguishing the Energon Sun and killing Alpha Q in the process. But the power of Unicron proved too much for Megatron to control, as Unicron began to take over Megatron&#039;s body. {{storylink|The Power of Unicron}} The Autobots made a valiant but futile attempt to stop him, but Unicron decimated them. Just as things seemed hopeless, a surge of power came that allowed Optimus-Supreme to grow to Unicron&#039;s size and powered up the other Autobots, {{storylink|Optimus Supreme}} and after a long and hard battle Optimus destroyed Unicron&#039;s body. {{storylink|Unicron Perishes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energon-Unicrons-Arms.jpg|right|thumb|200px|&amp;quot;Geodude geeeeoooo geodude.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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None of the Transformers were aware, however, that Unicron lived on in two forms: his miniscule Spark, floating in space, and his consciousness, which lay buried in Megatron&#039;s mind. With quiet, subconscious nudging, Unicron led Megatron to a massive reservoir of &amp;quot;[[Super Energon]]&amp;quot; beneath Cybertron&#039;s surface, {{storylink|Ambition}} which transformed him into Galvatron upon his first exposure. {{storylink|Wishes}} After a series of failed battles, Galvatron proceeded to expose himself to the Super Energon once again, and this time grew to a gigantic height. {{storylink|Galvatron Terror}} Unicron seized control of his body again for a new vessel and set out to rejoin with his Spark, but a Primus-empowered Optimus Supreme engaged him in battle once more, and drew all of Unicron&#039;s consciousness out of Galvatron and sealed it within his own Spark. {{storylink|Destructive Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:EnergonUnicronOrbTheSun.jpg|left|thumb|180px|&amp;quot;How could this puny thing be Unicron?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
—[[Kicker Jones]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
Enraged, Galvatron prepared to destroy Unicron&#039;s Spark, but it merged with him, enlarging him again, leading to another battle with Optimus Supreme, this time bolstered by the combined energy of all his troops&#039; Sparks. {{storylink|Spark (episode)|Spark}} Meanwhile, Primus merged with the Super Energon, creating a foundling sun which arrived at the site of the battle. Taking control of his body for a brief moment, Galvatron made the decision to plunge himself into the infant sun to rid himself of Unicron&#039;s possession. The super energon mass, having now received Unicron&#039;s spark, ignited into a powerful red sun which gave new life to Alpha Q&#039;s worlds. {{storylink|The Sun}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cyb ep20 unicron chunks.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Ssssh, don&#039;t tell &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039; that I&#039;m here!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The bitter [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Overhaul]] was a loner, but his attitude changed when, in deep space, he was trapped underneath some debris near the remains of Unicron and saved by [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Honor}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicronsingularity.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The cause of—and solution to—all of our continuity problems.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Primus&#039;s plan to trap Unicron in the heart of a new sun failed when the star collapsed into a massive [[Unicron Singularity|black hole]] (sometimes known as the &amp;quot;Unicron Singularity&amp;quot;) that threatened the entire multiverse. The collapse of the sun also allowed [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] to escape, [[Armor of Unicron|but not before integrating what remained of Unicron&#039;s body into himself]], increasing his power to nightmarish new heights. {{storylink|Fallen (episode)|Fallen}} &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to strengthening the Decepticon leader, the Armor of Unicron apparently gave Megatron access to a few of the Chaos Bringer&#039;s reality-warping powers, including the ability to unleash a devastating Energon aura {{storylink|Starscream (episode)|Starscream}} {{storylink|Showdown}}, create new Transformer bodies, upgrade and repair fallen Transformers {{storylink|Darkness (episode)|Darkness}}, and tap into the power of the [[Cyber Planet Key]]s. {{storylink|Revelation (episode)|Revelation}} {{storylink|Fury|Fury}} The Decepticon leader&#039;s newest plan also held hints of the dark god&#039;s old agenda, as he intended to use the Keys to accelerate the black hole&#039;s growth and destroy the entire universe (albeit with the intent to remake it in his image afterwards).&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately for Unicron and Megatron (who again upgraded into Galvatron), the black hole would be sealed away by Primus himself after the Autobots restored his full power. {{storylink|End}} The Armor of Unicron would be overwhelmed and destroyed along with its wearer in a final battle with Optimus Prime, wiping away the last traces of Unicron from the universe. {{storylink|Unfinished}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; comic====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unicroncybertron.jpg|right|150px|thumb|The Planet-Eater&#039;s back, and you&#039;re gonna be in trouble.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron&#039;s heralds [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] and [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime]] arrived on Cybertron, intent on unleashing the [[Dead Matrix]] on Primus&#039;s vulnerable essence—as the Matrix was the antithesis of Unicron, so too would the Dead Matrix ensure the destruction of Primus, thereby totally destabilizing the multiverse and reducing it to a sea of entropic chaos. For the first time, it would be possible for Unicron to strike at Primus in all realities simultaneously, ending their cosmic feud once and for all. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Ramjet and Nemesis Prime were ultimately stopped by Vector Prime and allies [[Sentinel Maximus]] and [[Omega Prime]], plucked from the midst of the &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; conflict by the multiverse-warping energies of the black hole. {{storylink|Revelations Part 1}} The Dead Matrix, however, was taken by Unicron&#039;s servant [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]] and cast into the heart of the black hole, freeing Unicron&#039;s spark, which entered the planet [[Yst]] and immediately began to sow chaos and disorder. Re-energized by the hatred and violence than ran rampant on Yst, Unicron formed a new, diminutive body for himself, born into the universe when Yst exploded. {{storylink|Revelations Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Sentinelmaximusunicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Sorry, did that previous image indicate that Unicron was still huge?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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During the time that followed, from behind the scenes Unicron orchestrated a civil war between the Mini-Cons stationed on Cybertron&#039;s moons. {{storylink|Revelations Part 4}} When Sentinel Maximus led a team of Autobots to stamp out the escalating conflict, Unicron&#039;s involvement was revealed, and he joined the battle himself alongside Soundwave. With no further use for the Mini-Cons, he murdered several of them and tried to capture [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] and [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], whom he had plans for. {{storylink|Revelations Part 5}} However, before Unicron could achieve victory, Primus was reawakened, and the dark god fled as Cybertron transformed into its robot mode. {{storylink|Revelations Part 6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Within the [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] universal stream, the appearance and subsequent destruction of Unicron and the destruction of Primus&#039;s [[Xaaron|avatar]], {{Storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}} as well as the tainting of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] caused by [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]], created a great many [[splinter timeline]]s. These events, as well as an earlier, undefined event related to [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], resulted in the creation of yet another splinter timeline, [[Primax 207.0 Epsilon]]. This universe overwrote a [[Gargent]] universe. {{storylink|Withered Hope}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Live-action &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie series==&lt;br /&gt;
===Titan Magazines===&lt;br /&gt;
{{quote|I&#039;m certain I can speak for all those pledged to the Decepticon cause when I say Unicron spells one thing, and that&#039;s trouble with a capital &#039;running and screaming&#039;.|Barricade|[[Transformers Comic issue 2.6|#6 (Vol.2)]]}} &lt;br /&gt;
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While the Transformer race appears ignorant of Unicron, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] has knowledge of him and encountered him {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|#12&#039;s Star Screams}} in an event where Unicron attempted to devour Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|#19&#039;s Star Screams}} We don&#039;t know how Starscream witnessed this (did he hop universes?) but it has left him terrified. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 17|#17&#039;s Star Screams}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2009, both [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] would also be aware of Unicron&#039;s existence. His sheer might scared him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|#6&#039;s Law and Disorder}} They know that [[fandom|you]] want to see Unicron in the third film and it &#039;&#039;sickens&#039;&#039; them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.13|#13&#039;s Law and Disorder}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron Titan19.JPG|left|200px|thumb|&amp;quot;The psoriasis is barely slowing him down!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]] and his Decepticon chums attempted to rebirth Cybertron by sending out a summons that would attract any entity related to the lost [[AllSpark]], and then drawing that entity into Cybertron once it arrived.&lt;br /&gt;
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As that entity announced itself to be &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Unicron the Anti-Life!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;, they felt like a right bunch of plonkers. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|Return to Cybertron: Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron moved swiftly, transforming Cybertron into a scarier looking physical form and causing the planet&#039;s surface to becoming hostile to the Transformers on it. Stockade&#039;s attempts at communication were met with contempt and a strange attack. The new Unicron then warped into the Sol system, shot down an Autobot shuttle, and went &amp;quot;OM NOM NOM&amp;quot; at the sight of Earth. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|Return to Cybertron: Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The downed Autobots regrouped with Stockade&#039;s Decepticons and worked to take away the [[Nucleon]] that was powering Unicron&#039;s physical form. They succeeded in this by causing it to blow up and catch fire, which caused Unicron to draw on more Nucleon to recover, which fueled the fire and so on until the source ran out. Unicron disappeared, though whether he was dead or just gone is ambigious. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 20|Return to Cybertron: Part 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way, the changes Unicron had made to Cybertron remained. The teleportation equipment he&#039;d created was used by the Autobots to finally end the war. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|Revolution Part Three}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aligned continuity==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Exodus&#039;&#039; novel===&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron was defeated in his attempt to destroy Cybertron very early in its history, but emanations of his presence remained and were gathered and stored on [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] Station. This substance was a violently addictive poison that could pass on to another bot once its user died, and was dubbed the Sparks of Unicron or [[Dark Energon]]. Ultimately [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] achieved what Unicron did not by contaminating the [[core]] with Dark Energon, forcing the planet to shut down and reboot. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[John Noble]] (English), [[José Lavat]] (Latin American-Spanish), [[Marco Balbi]] (Italian), [[Jürgen Kluckert]] (German)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise1-Unicronsilhouette.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Unicron ate the corners of this image.  See, &#039;cuz he&#039;s &#039;&#039;evil.&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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According to legend, at the beginning of time, Unicron and Primus battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long.  Until, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Over time, matter gravitated towards Unicron&#039;s fallen form, eventually forming a [[Earth |planet]] which found an orbit around a distant star. Prophesies foretold that should a certain planetary alignment occur, gravitational forces would wake Unicron from his slumber. In Optimus Prime&#039;s later view, Unicron had likely begun to transcend physical form. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In his three years in space, Megatron discovered the solidified form of Dark Energon, rumoured to be &amp;quot;the blood of Unicron&amp;quot;. A worried [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] referred to Unicron as a legendary &amp;quot;destroyer&amp;quot;, and called his blood the &amp;quot;Anti-Spark&amp;quot; as well. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron injected a piece of Dark Energon into himself and announced that he could hear Unicron&#039;s thoughts, much to Starscream&#039;s concern.{{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Some time later, as a planetary alignment foretold in a prophecy from the [[Covenant of Primus]] was drawing near, Megatron began to see visions of the future brought on by the sliver of Dark Energon that dwelt within his body. In one such vision, Megatron glimpsed the shadowed face of Unicron himself, and claimed that it was as if he could hear Unicron&#039;s own thoughts. [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Airachnid]] were less than convinced, but kept that fact to themselves. Much to everyone&#039;s shock, a volcano near the site of Optimus and Megatron&#039;s battle exploded and released a load of Dark Energon from the Earth&#039;s core. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise1-Unicronlistens.jpg|right|thumb|250px|&amp;quot;Disappointed that I&#039;m not the size of the moon or bigger? We&#039;ll soon fix that.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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As storms, earthquakes, and volcanoes erupted simultaneously across Earth, the Autobots began to suspect that Earth itself had Unicron as its core, explaining why Dark Energon was expelling from within. Meanwhile, Megatron ordered the [[Decepticon Miner]]s to mine the Dark Energon that spilled and at the same time he sought Unicron&#039;s attention at the maw of a volcano. Megatron presented himself as Unicron&#039;s herald and servant, an enemy of the Primes, but Unicron dismissed the Decepticon leader. If Megatron had failed to destroy the last of the Primes thus far on his own, Unicron believed Megatron&#039;s help was worthless. Similarly, Optimus Prime sought out Unicron elsewhere, traveling to the area which the Autobots believed to be the strongest epicenter of his consciousness. Unicron formed from a cliffside as a stone likeness of his old body near Optimus, while the Autobot leader made a passioned plea to the Chaos Bringer to spare the planets&#039; inhabitants. Unicron denied Optimus&#039;s pleas, as he considered the humans &amp;quot;parasites&amp;quot;, and he birthed multiple copies of himself from the landscape that surrounded Optimus Prime. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise2-bigdude.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Still not big enough for you?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus, soon joined by his fellow Autobots, blasted his way through increasingly larger Unicron avatars, until finally Unicron produced one even the Autobots couldn&#039;t beat. It raised a foot to crush Optimus, only for Megatron to lend a hand by blasting its head off. While the Autobots retreated to base to consider Megatron&#039;s plan, the Decepticon leader engaged more of the stone Unicrons, smashing them as fast as Unicron could produce them. Eventually, Megatron disappeared through the Autobot [[GroundBridge]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise2-inside.jpg|right|thumb|250px|&amp;quot;So hey, Prime, I guess we&#039;re kind of like Ozzy and Drix, huh?&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Shut up.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
A short time later, Megatron and the Autobots used the GroundBridge to reach the core of Earth itself, where Unicron&#039;s eye peered around. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Inside the ancient robot, the Autobots and Megatron continued to look for Unicron&#039;s spark. A query from Optimus about how long it would take for Unicron to know that they were there got the reply, &amp;quot;He already does.&amp;quot; Suddenly, a swarm of flying drones, Unicron&#039;s own antibodies, began shooting at the Autobots in an attempt to cleanse the Chaos-Bringer&#039;s body of the intruders. The group effectively fought them off, until Megatron started his way towards Unicron&#039;s spark. Arcee, Bumblebee, and Bulkhead stayed behind to fight off the drones, and Optimus accompanied Megatron to the core of Unicron, and to his spark. &lt;br /&gt;
Once inside the enormous spark chamber, Optimus and Megatron were both hit by waves from the colossal robot&#039;s spark, and nearly incapacitated. Megatron began experiencing incredibly intense visions of Unicron, telling him to kill Prime. With great effort, Megatron rejected him, saying that he was commanded by no one. Meanwhile, Prime righted himself, and called upon the power of the Matrix- the combined wisdom of all the Primes- to bring itself out. &lt;br /&gt;
However, Megatron was overwhelmed in this time by Unicron, and completely possessed by the ancient god, he ran towards Optimus to kill him. &lt;br /&gt;
But, as Megatron approached, Optimus unleashed the full power of the Matrix unto the dark god, overwhelming him, putting him into stasis, and quite possibly extinguishing his spark.  &lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Matthew King]] (English)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Armadavideogame-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Unicron takes a shot in the mouth.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Autobots defeated the Decepticons on [[Earth]] and had secured the majority of the Mini-Cons there, Unicron made his appearance above Cybertron, intent on destroying the planet. Optimus Prime&#039;s team of Autobots and the Mini-Cons returned home via a warp gate to see the Chaos Bringer unleash a wave of destruction upon the great cities of their planet. The Mini-Cons joined together to form the [[Matrix Cannon]], the [[Vanguard Booster]] and the [[Nemesis Shield]] for the Autobots to use against Unicron. The Autobots flew into Unicron&#039;s maw and blasted their way into his energy core, damaging it enough to send Unicron spiralling out of control and destroying him. {{storylink|Transformers (PS2)|Transformers}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Unicron/toys}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model-TheEntity.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Flamboyantcron]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Since Unicron is a villain and because I was fooling around at that time, I decided to make him look demonic with goatee, horns, bat-like wings and eagle talons for feet. I got the idea of Unicron from the planet Saturn and Satur. Actually, the original name was &amp;quot;Ingestor,&amp;quot; but the writer changed it to Unicron when he saw the design, probably because of the &amp;quot;horns.&amp;quot;|character designer [[Floro Dery]], [http://transformersph.blogspot.com/2007/06/floro-derys-transformers-exhibit-and.html Floro Dery&#039;s TransFormers Exhibit And Interview]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* Before the Transformers brand even existed, Takara designer [[Hiroyuki Hataike]] drew up a &amp;quot;Planet-Robot&amp;quot; toy for the &#039;&#039;[[Micro Change]]&#039;&#039; line, a design that would eventually inspire Unicron. &lt;br /&gt;
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* In early preproduction for &#039;&#039;The Transformers: The Movie&#039;&#039;, Unicron was referred to as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Entity&#039;&#039;&#039;. A model sheet from later in the movie&#039;s preproduction revealed that, at one point, the &#039;&#039;planet&#039;&#039; Unicron would turn into the &#039;&#039;robot&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Ingestor&#039;&#039;&#039;. An early rough draft of the film detailed some of the specifics of this; the disembodied voice of Ingestor would have presented itself to Megatron as merely the master and custodian of the planet Unicron, communicating from somewhere within the planet. He would remake the [[Life Spark]] of Megatron and other fallen Decepticons into Galvatron and his troops, and implore them to bring him energon to feed the planet, consumed with straw-slurping and lip-smacking sounds. Only at the draft&#039;s climax were Ingestor and Unicron revealed to be one and the same, as the energy the planet had been absorbing was revealed to be required to power the planet&#039;s transformation into robot mode. We used &amp;quot;robot&amp;quot; loosely, though; many pieces of organic terminology are used throughout the draft to describe planet and robot forms, such as the planet being covered in what appeared to be grass trees but which were actually the hairs of his humanoid form. At the end of the early rough draft, Unicron is destroyed completely by the Life Spark of Optimus Prime. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://boltax.blogspot.com/2010/12/heritaage-auctions-transformers-movie.htmlHeritage Auctions Transformers: The Movie script] @ Disciples of Boltax&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Character designer [[Floro Dery]] claims his designs for Unicron were very large and complicated. For example, there were three drawings of Unicron&#039;s internal organs that were 2&#039;x7&#039; each. Dery also explains that Unicron&#039;s television monitor-covered [[Unicron&#039;s core|core]] is &amp;quot;like security monitors in a building,&amp;quot; and that he must watch these screens manually to know what is going on, rather than the information being diverted directly into him from the screens&#039; source. And finally, the orbiting moon that is seen in the discarded &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; prototype by Takara (see [[Unicron/toys]]) was intended to be &amp;quot;a kind of mini-Unicron, like Mini-Me of Dr. Evil.&amp;quot; Floro Dery&#039;s kind of eccentric. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Zobovor&#039;s [http://web.archive.org/web/20060625115408/http://members.aol.com/tfencyc/interview_dery.html Interview with Floro Dery]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FloroDeryUnicronNotes.jpg|right|thumb|150px|That&#039;s no moon. No seriously, ignore that moon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Floro Dery&#039;s production notes as shown on his designs for Unicron (then &amp;quot;The Entity&amp;quot;) reveal some very interesting things that don&#039;t quite come through in the original film or were dropped:&lt;br /&gt;
** The spheres on Unicron&#039;s rings are meant to be roughly equivalent in size to &#039;&#039;Earth&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
** The surface of Unicron was originally a dense jungle of metal and mechanical creatures.&lt;br /&gt;
** Dery&#039;s roundabout reasoning for giving Unicron rings is explained: &amp;quot;Saturn sounds like Satur [presumably meaning &#039;&#039;satyr&#039;&#039;]. Satur is synonymous with the Devil. The Entity is a Devil-like planet. This is the reason why I designed the Entity like the planet Saturn.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
** A moon is included (as in Takara&#039;s G1 toy prototype), but never explained aside from being flashy and conductive.&lt;br /&gt;
** All the circular portions on the planet&#039;s surface were to flash and reflect different colors to &amp;quot;dazzle the viewers&amp;quot; and eliminate the epileptics in the audience.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFTM-Unicronalternatehead.jpg|right|thumb|150px|He shaved!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* An earlier version of Unicron&#039;s head showed up during Unicron&#039;s transformation scene in &#039;&#039;The Transformers: The Movie&#039;&#039;. Originally animated for [[The Transformers: The Movie promo]], this version has no [[facial hair]] and has extra greebles all over his face. It also colored the helmet entirely gray, save an orange mohawk. In [[Transformers: The Animated Movie|IDW&#039;s comic book adaptation of the animated film]], [[Don Figueroa]] drew a hybrid between the two designs, combining the facial hair and the orange mohawk.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The [[Unicron Trilogy]], the series of Transformers franchises that includes &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]&#039;&#039;, was so named by Hasbro designer [[Aaron Archer]] because of Unicron&#039;s importance in each story.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Roberto Orci]] was interested in having Unicron in the then untitled &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Transformers 3]]&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/ask-roberto-orci-roundup-january-14---mythology-money-shots-jolt-military-and-bringing-chaos-166603/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Unicron has the ability to create [[tainted world]]s, but none have yet been discovered.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The animated film and the following season of the cartoon are extraordinarily consistent about Unicron never actually moving his mouth while speaking, suggesting his voice may be &#039;&#039;broadcast&#039;&#039; as opposed to physically produced.&lt;br /&gt;
**Armada similarly features a lack of mouth movement, however, he DOES move it while speaking once.&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Transformers: Prime&#039;&#039; features another exception, with Unicron actually speaking with his mouth more often.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039; (ユニクロン &#039;&#039;Yunikuron&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Hungarian:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unikron&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Unikornisz&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Unicorn&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Korean:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039; (유니크론 &#039;&#039;Yunikeuron&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Mandarin:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Taiwan, 尤尼克隆, &#039;&#039;Yóu Ní Kè Lúng&#039;&#039;), &#039;&#039;&#039;Yǚ-zhòu Dà-dì&#039;&#039;&#039; (China, 宇宙大帝, &amp;quot;Emperor of the Universe&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Polish:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Rogacz&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;The Horned One&#039;&#039;), &#039;&#039;&#039;Jednorożec&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Unicorn&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Unicron/Unicron/unicron.htm Unicron on TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;amp;char=Unicron Unicron&#039;s Universe profile at NFTA.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformersontheshelf.com/UnicronPage Unicron (toy) History]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/pages/transformers-reviews/gallery/766/micron+legend/Green+Unicron+%28Lucky+Draw%29.html Photo gallery and review of Green Lucky Draw Unicron]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-gallery/merchandise/25/merchandise/Unicron+Japanese+Store+Display.html Inflatable Unicron store display gallery]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References and footnotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Alternators characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Armada characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars II characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars II planets]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars Neo characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cybertron characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cybertron Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon planets]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 gods]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 planets]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Gods]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ghosts]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Kiss Players characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Letters page answerers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Moons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Planet X]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Planets]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Prime characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Unicron| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Universe characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:War for Cybertron characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Plasma_Energy_Chamber&amp;diff=689450</id>
		<title>Plasma Energy Chamber</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Plasma_Energy_Chamber&amp;diff=689450"/>
		<updated>2012-02-23T05:13:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* The Transformers cartoon */&lt;/p&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;&#039;Plasma Energy Chamber&#039;&#039;&#039; is a reservoir of [[plasma energy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
According to [[Optimus Prime]], the Plasma Energy Chamber is the foundry where the original Autobots&#039; bodies were forged, millions of years ago.  Since that time, every Autobot leader&#039;s duties have included guarding the key to the Chamber.  The Chamber is located on [[Cybertron]], twelve levels below [[Generator C]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, the key was stolen during an all-out [[Decepticon]] assault on [[Autobot City]]. {{Storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}} {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 2}} {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====3H comics====&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Disclosure}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PlasmaEnergyChamber BM.jpg|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|End of the Line}} {{storylink|Fallout}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Exodus&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Beast Machines technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cybertron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:War for Cybertron technology]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Plasma_Energy_Chamber&amp;diff=689449</id>
		<title>Plasma Energy Chamber</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Plasma_Energy_Chamber&amp;diff=689449"/>
		<updated>2012-02-23T05:07:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;&#039;Plasma Energy Chamber&#039;&#039;&#039; is a reservoir of [[plasma energy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
According to [[Optimus Prime]], the Plasma Energy Chamber is the &amp;quot;foundry&amp;quot; where the original Autobots&#039; bodies had been forged, millions of years before.  Since that time, every Autobot leader&#039;s duties included guarding the key to the Chamber.  The Chamber was located on [[Cybertron]], twelve levels below [[Generator C]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unfortunately, the key was stolen during an all-out [[Decepticon]] assault on [[Autobot City]]. {{Storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}} {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 2}} {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====3H comics====&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Disclosure}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PlasmaEnergyChamber BM.jpg|thumb|]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|End of the Line}} {{storylink|Fallout}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Exodus&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Machines technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cybertron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 technology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:War for Cybertron technology]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Unicron&amp;diff=687070</id>
		<title>Unicron</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-15T05:47:57Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* The Transformers cartoon */ Adding the little cameo from &amp;quot;Primitives&amp;quot;.  Cut or add as you think is appropriate; I may be a bit out of my depth on this one.&lt;/p&gt;
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{{disambig3|Unicron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron-UltimateGuide.jpg|right|350px|thumb|He&#039;s been ignoring Galactus&#039;s C&amp;amp;D letters.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039; is the eternal arch-enemy of his twin brother [[Primus]]. Also known as the [[Lord of Chaos]], the Chaos Bringer, and the Planet Eater, he is dedicated to consuming the [[multiverse]]. His massive form is powered by the consumption of planets, moons, stars, and even the very fabric of existence. Unicron will not be sated until his ultimate goal is attained: to bring an end to the annoying creation boasting independence around him, and find peace by becoming the living center of a [[Void|swirling, infinite torrent of nothingness]] at the end of all things. &lt;br /&gt;
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To undertake this seemingly overwhelming task, Unicron is able to travel across realities at will, a meandering plague upon existence itself.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Titanium Series 3&amp;quot; Unicron profile&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Universe Armada Series Unicron bio&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Integrated into his systems are incomprehensible quantum computers which calculate probabilities forward and backwards in time, in perpetuity, giving his processors an ever changing, evolving map of the multiverse.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Profile, [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors&#039; Club issue 10]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With these abilities at his disposal, Unicron has thus far devoured approximately 22.56% of known universes. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;According to the [[Transcendent Technomorph]]s&#039; records in &amp;quot;[[Withered Hope]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The only thing that he fears is Primus&#039;s essence, contained inside the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. To a being of chaos and uncreation, this font of life is a poison.&lt;br /&gt;
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Frequently, Unicron will make deals with [[Herald of Unicron|lesser beings]], promising them vast new powers in exchange for their servitude. These minions are [[Thunderwing (G1)|sometimes]] stripped entirely of their free will, but [[Sideways (RID)|others]] follow him willingly. Service to Unicron, however, is a double-edged sword, for it causes insanity and loss of self. And in the end, Unicron&#039;s plans ultimately call for their consumption as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Unicron is frightening. Unicron will destroy... will destroy &#039;&#039;space&#039;&#039;.|[[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]]|&amp;quot;[[Uprising]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==In the beginning==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:UK150Unicron.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Saay, that shield looks [[Decepticon|familiar]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
Before the dawn of time, Order and Chaos existed within an extra-dimensional entity known as [[The One]]. To explore the fledgling universe, he created the astral being known as Unicron, and then subdivided him, creating his twin, Primus. Both brothers were [[Multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]], unique in all realities, but whereas Unicron could only exist in one universe at a time, moving between them at will, Primus existed simultaneously in all realities at once. It is suggested, in fact, that the two brothers embody the basic concepts of reality—good and evil, order and chaos—and that their continued existence is necessary for the stability of the multiverse.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Primusoriginal.jpg|right|180px|thumb|&amp;quot;No, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is &#039;&#039;[[RIBFIR|red]]!&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
As Unicron and Primus went about their appointed task, venturing through the cosmos, it became apparent to Primus that Unicron was a corrupt being, and he took it upon himself to stop the threat posed to all of existence by his sibling. In combat, Primus was no match for Unicron. In cunning, however, he proved himself to be his brother&#039;s superior when he shifted their battle to the astral plane, and then back to the physical world once more, only to have both their essences manifest within metallic planetoids, leaving them both trapped. It was with this act of sacrifice that Primus hoped to contain Unicron&#039;s evil forever. Unfortunately for him, over time, Unicron learned to psionically shape his prison into a giant metallic planet, and Primus followed suit, becoming the mechanical world of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. When Unicron then learned to transform his planetary form even further, into a gigantic robot form, Primus adapted the idea to suit his own ends, creating a group of [[Thirteen|thirteen robots]] that possessed the ability to change shape, like Unicron.&lt;br /&gt;
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The war between Unicron and Primus came to its seeming end during a climactic battle in which one of the Thirteen, Megatronus Prime, who would forever afterwards be known as [[The Fallen]], betrayed Primus and became an acolyte of Unicron. The battle ended when the Fallen and Unicron were sucked into a black hole and disappeared from reality. With Unicron gone for now, Primus entered an eons-long slumber, his self-imposed sleep preventing Unicron from detecting him through the mental link the brothers shared.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Evolution of the Primus/Unicron myth===&lt;br /&gt;
The Primus/Unicron backstory has evolved and been rewritten a good number of times since it first originated in the [[Marvel Comics]] series. The version recounted above is the current iteration, which has slowly solidified across a wide swath of media (beginning around the time of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]&#039;&#039;). Before the Primus/Unicron mythos reached its present form it went through several distinct versions in the Marvel Generation 1 comics and elsewhere.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Unicron&#039;s story====&lt;br /&gt;
The first time the Primus/Unicron backstory appeared was in the UK comic continuity, from Unicron himself, in the story &amp;quot;[[The Legacy of Unicron!]]&amp;quot;, when he recounted it to [[Death&#039;s Head (G1)|Death&#039;s Head]]. Per Unicron&#039;s telling of events, he was a primal force of evil at the dawn of the universe, who led a legion of [[Dark God]]s against his mortal foe, Primus, Lord of the [[Light God]]s. Events proceeded to play out basically as described above, though the role of the Light and Dark Gods would diminish with each subsequent retelling of the story, until the current version, in which Primus and Unicron are alone, and have a unique origin.&lt;br /&gt;
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The second time the story was told was in the United States book by the [[Keeper (Transformer)|Keeper]], an ancient mechanoid who guarded Primus&#039;s head at the center of Cybertron. This telling is effectively the same as the previous UK story, but mentions that their battle was towards the end of the era of gods, that Primus and Unicron were the last of their respective pantheons, and Primus had to defeat Unicron before he could take his place with the other gods in the &amp;quot;[[Omniversal Matrix]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The third time the story was told was also in the United States Marvel series, this time by Primus, when he gathered all his children together to prepare for Unicron&#039;s coming. It was with this telling that we learned that Unicron predated the [[universe (universe)|current universe]], and had destroyed the [[old realms|previous universe]] which existed before the current one. He had slept peacefully, alone in the [[void]] of un-creation that remained, until fragments of the old universe that he had overlooked reacted, causing the Big Bang and birthing the current universe. The &amp;quot;sentient core&amp;quot; of this new universe recognized the threat that Unicron posed, and so created Primus to counter his evil and be guardian of the new creation.&lt;br /&gt;
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The first modern retelling of the origins of Primus and Unicron did not come from Generation 1-oriented media, but from a set of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; trading cards released by Fleer. It was the backstory printed on Unicron&#039;s card which introduced the concept of the two being brothers created to explore the new universe by an extra-dimensional entity, here named the &amp;quot;[[Allspark]]&amp;quot;.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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This was subsequently expanded on and combined with aspects of the various Marvel Comics stories in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]&#039;&#039;, published by Dorling Kindersley and written by [[Simon Furman]], who had written all three prior tellings in the first place. Here, the entity Fleer had called the &amp;quot;Allspark&amp;quot; was redubbed &amp;quot;[[The One]]&amp;quot;, and the modern iteration of the myth detailed above was firmly established, and went on to form the backbone of subsequent fiction such as &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]]&#039;&#039; and [[Fun Publications]]&#039; &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; comics.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PrimalScream-Unicron.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Unicron is furious that he&#039;s been miscolored again.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Eventually, millions of years later, circa the Earth year 1990, a group of Transformers discovered the sleeping form of Primus at Cybertron&#039;s core. When a battle erupted, a stray laser blast struck Primus, briefly jolting the god awake and causing him to emit a multiverse-shaking &amp;quot;Primal Scream&amp;quot; that alerted Unicron to Primus&#039;s location. Primus himself immediately slipped back into his sleep, but it was too late. {{storylink|Primal Scream}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:EyeoftheStorm-possiblefutureUnicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Um, [[multiversal singularity|forget this]], please.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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While devouring the planet [[Ghennix]], Unicron took note of three criminals who were attempting to escape their fate. Unicron destroyed their vessel and recreated the three as [[Hook, Line, and Sinker]]. As the distance to Cybertron was vast and he was too large to teleport, he ordered them to retrieve a [[Galvatron II|Galvatron]] from a [[Rhythms of Darkness!|possible future]] to serve as his herald. {{storylink|All Fall Down}} Though this Galvatron was angry at being plucked from his victorious timeline, Unicron tortured him until he agreed to be his herald. Still, this Galvatron secretly plotted his eventual treachery. Unicron sent all four of them to attack Cybertron and pave the way for his coming. {{storylink|Eye of the Storm}} &lt;br /&gt;
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So close to Cybertron he could &#039;&#039;taste it&#039;&#039;, Unicron decided to forgo consumption of the planet [[Jhi]] and hasten on his way to the ultimate confrontation. His herald Galvatron, however, captured Autobot leader [[Emirate]] [[Xaaron]], forcing him to fully awaken Primus. Suspecting treachery on Galvatron&#039;s part, Unicron sent Hook, Line and Sinker to retrieve him from the subterranean tunnels of Cybertron, but Galvatron destroyed them, and Primus was woken from his slumber. Unicron&#039;s arch-foe possessed Xaaron&#039;s body and summoned Transformers from all across the universe back to Cybertron. {{storylink|Out of Time!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron shut down his higher mental functions and drifted for the remainder of the journey to hide himself from detection by Primus. At this point, a mental command that Unicron had placed in some of Primus&#039;s creations was activated, resulting in the formation of a cult of Unicron-worshipers, who gathered to destroy the leader of the united Autobots and Decepticons. These [[Unicron cultist]]s were drawn out when [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] was named commander of Primus&#039;s army. The cultists tried to assassinate the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]]; they failed, but distracted the Cybertronians long enough for Unicron to sneak up on the planet. {{storylink|The Void! (US)|The Void!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Edgeofextinction-someonefight.jpg|right|150px|thumb|&#039;&#039;He&#039;s got the whooooole world, in his feet...&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After Unicron dug his fist into the planet and ate the flesh of his mortal enemy, he noted that this was the finest meal he had ever tasted. However, he was somewhat disappointed to find that the gathered Transformers were simply so terrified of him that there was no resistance to his attack. As he devoured [[Brainstorm]] from the tip of his finger, he admitted that despite their lack of showmanship, they were at least delicious.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron&#039;s unchecked rampage was soon ensnared by Primus himself, speaking through Emirate Xaaron&#039;s body. For a short moment, Unicron was restrained, but when he deduced that this ruse was a big show put on by an insignificant portion of Primus&#039;s power, he broke free and destroyed the avatar of Primus, killing both Xaaron and his creator.&lt;br /&gt;
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Galvatron, who was worried his treachery was going to waste, attacked Unicron, hoping his bravery would stir the Transformers into action. Galvatron was smacked down, but his gambit paid off as the Transformers snapped out of their collective stupor and began a counter-attack against the Chaos-Bringer. Countless Transformers died in this assault, including the Decepticon leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]. But Transformers weren&#039;t the only ones attacking him. Briefly fazed by the illusion-casting powers of the [[human]] [[Neo-Knights|Neo-Knight]] [[Rapture]], Unicron&#039;s systems were attacked by the electrical powers of [[Circuit Breaker]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OntheEdgeofExtinction-toomuch.jpg|left|thumb|300px|For soon you will have life. &#039;&#039;Sweet&#039;&#039; life.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After being clocked by the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], Unicron received another surprise: the thought-lost Creation Matrix had returned, along with its vessel, [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]. Unicron was at first confused, as he&#039;d sensed the Matrix&#039;s destruction, but quickly realized that the Matrix had not been destroyed, but had merely been masked by its seduction by evil. And in the realm of evil, Unicron had no equal! Thunderwing was destroyed, but the Matrix fell to the planet&#039;s surface.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fighting the evil within the Matrix, Optimus Prime grabbed the artifact and launched into Unicron&#039;s maw, where the Creation Matrix was opened. While being pummeled by the flood of life unleashed by the Matrix, Unicron&#039;s body could not maintain structural integrity and exploded. {{storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:JudgmentDay-mist.jpg|right|thumb|150px|So, seriously, what was up with this stuff?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In an alternate 2005, Unicron&#039;s consumption of the planet [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]] was heralded first by strange pink mists&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The original script called this an &amp;quot;electronic mist&amp;quot;. It sets you on fire and melts you.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that leaked from his planet mode&#039;s maw. On route to Cybertron, he encountered an injured Megatron and the bodies of his troops. He offered them new bodies in exchange for hunting down the Matrix. {{storylink|The Planet-Eater!}} As Galvatron was sent forward, Unicron devoured [[Moonbase One]] and [[Moonbase Two]]. {{storylink|Judgment Day!}} Galvatron returned to Unicron with the Matrix, but he intended to use it to make Unicron his slave. In retaliation, Unicron attacked Cybertron in earnest, as the planet was helpless against his assault. Ultimately, during a battle that took place inside Unicron, Rodimus Prime claimed the Matrix of Leadership from Galvatron and the Planet-Eater was destroyed from within. Only his head survived, and it remained in orbit over Cybertron. {{storylink|The Final Battle!}} {{storylink|The Big Broadcast of 2006 (issue)|The Big Broadcast of 2006}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|In the UK version of the story, the events of &amp;quot;The Big Broadcast of 2006&amp;quot; were a fabrication invented by [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]. Also, the UK printing of the animated film adaptation altered the date from 2005 to 2006 to match &#039;&#039;[[Target: 2006]]&#039;&#039;.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In another alternate 2005, a dying Megatron was found by Unicron. Unicron refashioned Galvatron into his herald, {{storylink|A Savage Circle}} and through their combined efforts, Unicron succeeded in devouring Cybertron. In the aftermath, he allowed Galvatron and his Decepticons to rule Earth. {{storylink|Rhythms of Darkness!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Grimlock accused Optimus Prime of being too focused on Unicron&#039;s imminent arrival, to the detriment of [[Earth]]&#039;s troubles, the Dinobot Commander was allowed to create an [[Earthforce]].&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Break-Away!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;However, Prime had his work cut out for him. With an attempted Decepticon alliance ruined beyond all recovery and the Matrix still lost, Optimus had to turn to the original site of the Underbase—as the Underbase was linked to the centre of Cybertron, the Autobots could tap into that centre (and thus Primus himself) as a substitute Matrix.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|The Magnificent Six!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FallenAngel-Unicron.jpg|left|250px|thumb|And then Rodimus drove up through his entire body to escape through Unicron&#039;s other eye.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the parallel timeline of [[Earth-120185]], Unicron did not arrive at Cybertron until the year 2006, consuming the small planet [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]] on his way. As he drew closer to Cybertron, Unicron came upon the damaged bodies of Decepticon leader [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and several of his Decepticon followers, who had been jettisoned into space following a major battle at [[Autobot City]] on Earth. Unicron extended Megatron a bargain, offering to rebuild him and his troops into new beings to serve him, and tortured the recalcitrant Decepticon leader into accepting. {{storylink|The Planet-Eater!}} Now reborn as [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], Megatron immediately began scheming to destroy his &amp;quot;master&amp;quot;, using a [[time-jump mechanism]] to travel back in time to 1986, where he constructed a solar cannon that was powerful enough to destroy Unicron&#039;s physical form. Fully aware of his pawn&#039;s actions, Unicron took control of the minds of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], and [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] and had them follow Galvatron back in time to foil his plan. {{storylink|Target: 2006}} &lt;br /&gt;
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After Galvatron returned to 2006, he fought [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] within Unicron, where he was defeated and thrown out into space. He still had remote to the [[time-jump mechanism]] and used it to travel back to 1986 again, where he planned to take over the Decepticons so he&#039;d be ready for Unicron when he arrived 20 years later. {{storylink|Fallen Angel}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:LegacyofUnicron-Unicron.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Silly Junkions, you can buy loose Unicrons on eBay for just $20!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Only Unicron&#039;s head survived the explosion of his body, and it floated off through space to eventually crash-land on the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]]. There, the still-conscious Unicron used mind control to force the native [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]] to build him a new body out of the planet. At the beginning of 2008, he pulled [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Death&#039;s Head (G1)|Death&#039;s Head]] into his thrall and used them to re-ignite the stalemated Cybertronian war in order to keep the Autobots distracted from his activities. Amused by Death&#039;s Head&#039;s repeated attempts at defiance, he told him about his origin, only to find himself now under attack by Rodimus Prime and an Autobot strike-team. &lt;br /&gt;
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This &#039;&#039;almost&#039;&#039; went wrong, as Rodimus (at Death&#039;s Head&#039;s suggestion) tried to use the power of the Matrix on the astral plane. Here, however, the Matrix &#039;&#039;strengthened&#039;&#039; Unicron and the monster intended to merge with it for greater power. Ultimately, however, he was defeated by [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]], who had planted explosives under the head&#039;s building site while the Chaos-Bringer was distracted. His head was destroyed, and his mind was sealed within the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WhiteFire-mine.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Rodimus rejects Unicron&#039;s endorsement of the coal industry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On New Year&#039;s Day 2009, Unicron attempted to turn the Matrix towards evil and merge with it again, the only way he could bear being trapped within it. {{storylink|White Fire}} He reached out from within it and took control of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]&#039;s body, {{storylink|Edge of Impact}} only to be stopped when Kup ripped the talisman out of his chest. Unfortunately, this meant they lost their chance to purify the Matrix and that Unicron would be ready for them next time. {{storylink|White Fire}} In 2010, he repeated the trick and transformed Rodimus&#039;s body into a copy of his own before being forced back. In the far future of 2356, Unicron&#039;s essence still resides within the Matrix, steadily withering the struggling body of Rodimus. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Orson Welles]] (English, Movie), [[Roger C. Carmel]] (English, TV series), [[Mizuho Suzuki]] (Japanese, Movie), [[Toshio Ishii]] (Japanese, TV series), [[Jean-Claude Michel]] (French, Movie), [[Manfred Schmidt]] (German, &#039;&#039;Ghost in the Machine&#039;&#039;), [[Thomas Rau]] (German, &#039;&#039;Grimlocks New Brain&#039;&#039;), [[Werner Abrolat]] (German, The Movie TV Dub), [[Thomas Albus]] (German, Generation 2 Dub of &#039;&#039;Ghost in the Machine&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicroncall.jpg|right|thumb|200px|So anyway, in this one continuity I&#039;m built by a monkey. Sorry.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron was constructed by the ancient genius known as [[Primacron (G1)|Primacron]] at the dawn of the universe. Primacron had hoped that Unicron would scour the galaxy clean of life, leaving a blank slate for him to experiment upon, but naturally, Unicron had no desire to be the servant of another, and turned on Primacron, badly wounding him and his [[Oracle (G1)|assistant]], and setting out into the depths of space. {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|The cartoon&#039;s account of Unicron&#039;s origin is very much at odds with the current understanding of him as a multiveral singularity. This, of course, is because the cartoons were written long before the Marvel Comic storyline that created the Primus/Unicron myth, and &#039;&#039;much&#039;&#039; longer before the retcon that applied the story to all Transformer continuities. Consequently, the animated universe is easily the one piece of Transformer fiction that is least compatible with this retcon and there has as yet been no attempt in official fiction to re-write Unicron&#039;s animated origin to tie in with it.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFTM_Unicron_Lithone.jpg|left|250px|thumb|I see you down there!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the year 2005, Unicron made his most famous attack upon Cybertron. While heading towards the planet, he consumed the small world of [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]], making it perfectly clear how great of a threat he was to the entire universe. As he continued on his way, Unicron&#039;s powers allowed him to become aware of the death of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], who handed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] just before dying, which angered him tremendously. He then came upon the bodies of several wounded and dying Decepticons, who had been dumped into space following a [[Battle of Autobot City|recent battle]] on Earth. He extended a proposition to the Decepticons&#039; leader, [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]], offering to rebuild his body and those of his troops in exchange for their destruction of the Autobot Matrix of Leadership. Tortured into accepting, Megatron was transformed into [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], and his followers became [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], and the [[Sweep]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFTM_Unicron_smashes_cybertron.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Unicron smash!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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While Galvatron set about reclaiming leadership of the Decepticons, Unicron arrived at Cybertron, and proceeded to consume the planet&#039;s two moons. Outraged that Unicron would do this to a planet that he viewed as his, Galvatron found himself the victim of mental torture by his creator, and ordered to Earth to complete the task given him. The ensuing chase finally climaxed in a showdown on the [[Junkion (planet)|planet of Junk]], where Galvatron seized the Matrix and returned to Unicron, only to reveal that he intended to use the talisman to make Unicron his slave. Amused by his pawn&#039;s arrogance, Unicron transformed into his [[Scale|gigantic]] robot mode and ate Galvatron. Unicron then tore into Cybertron, as [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the rest of the Decepticons on the planet fought back, to little effect. Unicron swallowed many spaceships, and one, which contained the young Autobot [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and his comrades, crashed through Unicron&#039;s eye. Hot Rod and Galvatron battled deep inside Unicron, and ultimately, Hot Rod was able to retake the Matrix from the Decepticon. Transformed by its power into [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]], he defeated Galvatron and opened the Matrix inside Unicron, destroying his body from within.&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron&#039;s head was blown clear during his death throes, and became caught in Cybertron&#039;s gravity, turning it into a new moon for the planet — a grisly testament to the satellites he had destroyed. {{Storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron head orbit.jpg|180px|left|thumb|Incoming message from the [[Grand Mal|Big, Giant Head]]!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the year 2006, Cyclonus, Scourge and the Sweeps visited Unicron&#039;s head, seeking to locate Galvatron, who had been hurled into space at the conclusion of his battle with Rodimus Prime. After accessing the remaining databanks and replaying footage of the final battle, Cyclonus extrapolated Galvatron&#039;s trajectory and current location. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GhostMachine Unicron starscream jumpers.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Unicron&#039;s glad he got that Triple-A membership.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the planet home to the monster known as [[Chaos (alien)|Chaos]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] proclaimed that Galvatron would be &amp;quot;more famous in history than Unicron&amp;quot; once Galvatron destroyed Cybertron with his newly-built death crystal cannon. {{storylink|Chaos (episode)|Chaos}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, the ghost of the deceased Decepticon [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] reactivated Unicron&#039;s head in order to make a bargain with him; in exchange for Unicron restoring his body, Starscream would recreate Unicron&#039;s. Stealing new optic circuits and a transformation cog for Unicron from [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], Starscream was then directed to connect Unicron&#039;s head to Cybertron, so that the planet could become his new body. Starscream initially attempted to do this by using Trypticon&#039;s body, but Trypticon was deactivated by the Decepticons. Unicron restored Starscream&#039;s body so that he could finish the task, but Starscream (somewhat predictably, being Starscream) double-crossed Unicron and refused to complete the necessary connections. Just then, explosives set by the Autobots were detonated, hurling Unicron&#039;s head off the planet, beyond its gravity, and out into space. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeking a supply of the dangerous particles known as [[anti-electron]]s, Galvatron and the Decepticons traveled to Unicron&#039;s head, only to come under attack from the defenses of the barely-aware giant. Also present was the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], who used components from Unicron&#039;s head to create the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] to fight Galvatron&#039;s forces. The Technobot [[Strafe (G1)|Strafe]] disconnected enough of Unicron&#039;s internal mechanisms to deactivate his systems. {{storylink|Grimlock&#039;s New Brain}}&lt;br /&gt;
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While a much older Primacron mused about how his new creation, [[Tornedron]], would succeed where &amp;quot;the other&amp;quot; had failed, the giant, damaged head of Unicron was seen floating along in the background, having apparently faded to a dull grey.{{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TGGUni1.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha]]&lt;br /&gt;
Following his destruction in 2005, Unicron&#039;s [[Angolmois|lifeforce]] was scattered across time and space, fragmented and parasitized into Autobot and [[Maximal]] leaders throughout history. In 2007, three of his servants, the [[Sparkbot]]s, sought to recreate their master, and tricked the human singing group, the [[Kiss Players (singing group)|Kiss Players]]—[[Marissa Faireborn]], [[Atari Hitotonari]] and [[Shaoshao Li]]—into helping them in their task by telling them that they were gathering the fragments of the so-called &amp;quot;Allspark&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TGGUni2.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Oh god ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Primus]] was forced to take action to stop their mission, appearing as a giant golden hand to steal away the energy fragments before the Sparkbots could collect them, but eventually, the evil trio collected enough to accomplish their dire task. Fleeing back in time to [[Earth]]&#039;s prehistoric past, they unleashed the energy and Unicron began to form around them. Following the Sparkbots back to the past, Primus unleashed the full firepower of his mobile battle platform&#039;s cannon, sealing Unicron&#039;s energy and the Sparkbots deep within the planet. He then created the mighty [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus]] to serve as a guardian and ensure that the evil being was never again reborn. {{storylink|Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|Kiss Players radio drama #51}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately for everyone except Unicron, Brave Maximus would go onto leave the Earth in 2007, leaving the chaos-bringer&#039;s life-force unguarded. {{storylink|Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|Kiss Players radio drama #39}}&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point in the far future, human beings discovered Unicron&#039;s lifeforce within the Earth, and attempted to harness it for their own means. This resulted in the devastation of the planet Earth, reducing it to a ruin, {{storylink|Emissary of the Fourth Planet}} but the fame of this &amp;quot;mysterious energy&amp;quot; that had been called &amp;quot;[[Angolmois]]&amp;quot; was far-reaching, and eventually, tens of thousands of years after the end of the Great War between the Autobots and Decepticons, the Predacon leader [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] attempted to harvest it for himself. {{storylink|The New Forces Arrive!}} Using his artificial planet, [[Nemesis (BWII)|Nemesis]], he sucked all the Angolmois energy out of the planet and into the craft. However, after the interference of [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Lio Junior]], all the Angolmois energy was sealed into capsules and ejected from Nemesis as it self-destructed. {{storylink|Farewell! Lio Convoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars Neo&#039;&#039; cartoon=====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Tetsuo Komura]] (Japanese)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BWNeo Unicron.JPG|left|180px|thumb|Unicron didn&#039;t take kindly to being part of the Macy&#039;s Parade.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Teams of Maximals and Predacons, led by [[Big Convoy]] and [[Magmatron]] respectively, then raced to collect the Angolmois capsules, as their energy effects were wreaking havoc on planets all over the galaxy. {{storylink|Big Convoy, Move Out}} &lt;br /&gt;
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They eventually collected all the capsules only to find themselves attacked by the mysterious and freakish [[Blendtron]]s. The Blendtrons, in truth servants of Unicron seeking to engineer his rebirth, proved nearly invincible, and stole the capsules from each team. {{storylink|Mysterious Beast Warriors!?}} They released the Angolmois energy and allowed it to possess Galvatron&#039;s dead body, restoring Unicron to life in a new form. {{storylink|Unicron Revived!?}} Unicron absorbed the last remaining ounce of stray Angolmois energy—the Blendtrons themselves—and left to settle his score with Cybertron. [[Great Convoy]] attempted to hold Unicron off with the entire Maximal armada, but Unicron&#039;s fiery serpent mode proved too much and he effortlessly destroyed the armada and Great Convoy along with it. Unicron then possessed [[Vector Sigma]], the mother computer of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], effectively possessing the planet, and morphed Cybertron into his new body. {{storylink|End of the Maximals!?}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron then briefly exited Vector Sigma to deal with the last remaining Cybertronian resistance. {{storylink|The Final Battle (BWN)|The Final Battle}} Big Convoy, his Maximal new recruits, Lio Convoy and Magmatron all fought side-by-side against Unicron, but all they managed to do was stall him. Big Convoy then powered up his Big Cannon with his own [[Energon Matrix|Matrix]], transforming it into the Matrix Buster. Big Convoy shot Unicron with the weapon, the powerful blast seemingly destroying the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|The Final Battle (BWN)|The Final Battle}} Unicron&#039;s spirit was then evicted from Vector Sigma, returning Cybertron to normal. {{storylink|Graduation Ceremony!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039; manga=====&lt;br /&gt;
After his destruction in 2005, Unicron&#039;s displaced lifeforce became trapped within the planet Earth, where it was eventually discovered and manipulated by humankind (who were unaware of its origins). This resulted in the devastation of the planet, but the fame of this &amp;quot;mysterious energy&amp;quot; that had been called &amp;quot;[[Angolmois]]&amp;quot; was far-reaching, and eventually, twenty million years after Unicron&#039;s destruction, {{storylink|Double Cross}} the Predacon leader [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] travelled to the deserted Earth (now known as [[Gaea]]) and attempted to harvest it for himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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A Maximal energon survey team was sent to the planet Unicron, but it lost contact with [[Maximal Army Central Headquarters]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This is possibly a vague hint to the role Unicron would play in the greater &#039;&#039;Beast Wars II&#039;&#039;-&#039;&#039;Neo&#039;&#039; story, or a [[Easter egg|reference]] inserted by the [[Authorial intent|author]] before Unicron&#039;s inclusion as the source of Angolmois was decided upon.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; {{storylink|Demolish the Superdreadnought Tank!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Galvatron eventually succeeded in sucking-up all the Angolomois energy on Gaea into his artificial planet [[Nemesis (BWII)|Nemesis]]. {{storylink|All Hands, Make a Special Attack on the Evil Planet!}} The Maximals journeyed to Nemesis to stop him, only for Lio Convoy to become corrupted by the Angolmois energy, turning  a Predacon. Lio Convoy was able to channel the true spiritual energy of Gaea through his [[Energon Matrix]], however, and disspell the taint, restoring himself. He then used that same power to destroy Nemesis, the Angolmois, Galvatron and the Predacons. {{storylink|Win the Battle of Light and Darkness!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars Neo&#039;&#039; manga=====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:bwn-blackball-manga-01-bigconvoy.jpg|thumb|right|200px|&amp;quot;Reply hazy, try again&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On the planet Gaea, a group of Predacons somehow came into possession of a mysterious spheroid object known as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Black Ball&#039;&#039;&#039;. The strange artifact was of some importance to the Predacons; it may in fact have told Magmatron that he could rule the galaxy once he had the seven [[Angolmois]] capsules.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:bwn-unicron-manga-07-unionfleet.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When Big Convoy came to rescue five Maximal rookies who were trapped in the &#039;&#039;[[Galvaburg II]]&#039;&#039; on Gaea, the Maximals found the Black Ball and retrieved it.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Maximal returned to the &#039;&#039;[[Gung Ho]]&#039;&#039;, they attempted to analyze the Black Ball. However, the Black Ball activated the ship&#039;s warp engine. {{storylink|The 5 Rookies}} During the warp, the Black Ball began to speak, telling the Maximals about the Angolmois capsules, which originated from the final conflict between [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]] on [[Nemesis (BWII)|Nemesis]]. It also told them that there were seven Angolmois energy capsules scattered across the galaxy in total. The Maximals were warned that they must retrieve all the capsules to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands, or the galaxy would be in extreme danger. The &#039;&#039;Gung Ho&#039;&#039; subsequently arrived at the planet [[Luxor]], where one of the capsules was located. {{storylink|There Are 7 Capsules}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Black Ball guided Big Convoy&#039;s team to various other places where capsules were located.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Magmatron, who was in a healing chamber in the &#039;&#039;[[Dinosaur (ship)|Dinosaur]]&#039;&#039; due to wounds caused by Big Convoy, learned that he lost his troops in the battle on [[Jörmungandr]], the Black Ball suddenly appeared. The Black Ball told Magmatron that it could see he was short-handed and offered Magmatron some &amp;quot;helpers&amp;quot;—the [[Blendtron]]s, who emerged from within the Black Ball. {{storylink|A Battle Fought Alone}} &lt;br /&gt;
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The Black Ball told both Big Convoy and Magmatron of the planet where the last capsule was located. Magmatron faced off with Big Convoy there, and ordered the Blendtrons to attack the Maximals. One of the Blendtrons, however, chose to attack Magmatron instead. The action of the Blendtrons baffled both Big Convoy and Magmatron alike. The Black Ball then arrived on the planet&#039;s surface.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was revealed that the Black Ball was actually Unicron himself, or more specifically, his essence, while the Angolmois energy was his life force. Unicron absorbed the six capsules and reformed his head out of the Black Ball. He then revealed that the last capsule was actually both Big Convoy and Magmatron, who were evolved by the power of the Angolmois capsule on their home planet in the [[7th Cosmos]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Big Convoy teamed up with Magmatron to fight against Unicron, but both failed. Big Convoy was saved by [[Heinrad]], who told him about Unicron&#039;s existence and the plan of the [[Ruler of Time and Space]] — to erase the universe and create a new universe without Unicron, the &amp;quot;cancer&amp;quot;. After Heinrad was forced to leave due to his interference, Magmatron was chewed up and spat out by Unicron.{{storylink|Double Cross}} Unicron then headed to the planet Cybertron. He latched onto the planet like a parasite and turned it into his new body.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:bwn-bigconvoy&amp;amp;unicron-manga-07-1.jpg|thumb|200px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron desired to consume Big Convoy, the last half of the capsule, in order to make his right eye fully functional once more. His physical body was destroyed by Big Convoy after a harsh battle with Big Convoy&#039;s crew. However, Unicron&#039;s essence emerged from his physical remains and plastered itself onto Big Convoy&#039;s body, trying to possess him. Big Convoy removed the [[Energon Matrix|Matrix]] from his chest and unleashed its power, sacrificing himself and successfully destroying Unicron once and for all. {{storylink|Return to Zero}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Dreamwave &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GenerationOne0-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|&amp;quot;Say, do you remember that time Leonardo Leonardo tried to open that convenience store across the street?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron&#039;s servant, [[The Fallen]], tried to bring about his second coming by breaking the [[Seal of Primus]], but failed. {{storylink|Conflagration}} Unicron sent a wave of drones and heralds into the universe, with the Alpha Drone, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], arriving on Cybertron 3000 years ago, amidst the [[Great Shutdown]], which he ended when he reactivated Shockwave for research purposes. {{storylink|Generation One issue 0|Generation One #0}} Shockwave happily shot him and experimented on him, and through these experiments became interesting in uncovering the secrets to Cybertron&#039;s history. This curiosity led him to steal the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and activate [[Vector Sigma]], which sent a beam across space that roused Unicron from his slumber. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Now awake, but not at full power or consciousness, Unicron set out on a course towards [[Earth]](!). The planets he consumed along his way, including the planet [[Lithone (planet)|Lithone]], accelerated his rejuvenation quicker than [[Quintesson]] spectators had calculated. Using the raw materials Unicron harvested from Lithone, he created a new batch of drones based on a second body template. Subsequently, [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] burst free from his birthing pod. {{storylink|Generation One issue 0|Generation One #0}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Unicron was to be part of a plotline in 2005, starting from [[Unreleased Dreamwave issues#issue 13|#13]], but even his might was helpless against [[Pat Lee]]&#039;s business skills. The reason for the Quintessons&#039; interest in Unicron was never revealed.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BlackHorizon2-Unicron.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Unicron, [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]], what&#039;s the diff?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Here, Unicron enslaved the population of the worlds he ate to maintain his inner works; one race included the [[Beastformer]]s. He is known about in Transformer legend, and is said to have been banished from his homeworld.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thousands of years ago, when humanity was at a primitive stage, Unicron turned up to devour the Earth. The ancestors of [[Cobra-La]], however, had developed a [[metal-eating spore]] that could potentially kill Unicron. They came to an agreement—they would go into exile, while Unicron would merely eat human civilisation once it had developed to a useful point. Eventually they did, and Unicron began broadcasting announcements of &amp;quot;I Return&amp;quot; as he headed towards Earth. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron&#039;s DDP Brain.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Who needs all those TV monitors, anyway?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron reached Earth and transformed so as to consume civilization in robot form. [[Japan]] was devastated and humanity collectively wet itself. But the world was saved by [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] and [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]], who flew into the Chaos-Bringer and doused his organic looking brain with Cobra-La&#039;s metal-eating spores. Unicron was killed, the world was saved, and [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] went on to explore the dead monster&#039;s innards. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Despite being written after the retcon that established Unicron as a multiversal singularity, this story pays little heed to that concept, refraining from touching upon the Primus/Unicron mythology and instead claiming Unicron was banished at the hands of his own race. Of course, this is only what the Cobra-Lavians &#039;&#039;believe&#039;&#039; about Unicron, so there&#039;s wiggle room. His strange organic brain, meanwhile, was explained in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II]]&#039;&#039;, which revealed that this particular body of Unicron&#039;s came from the universe of the [[GoBots (franchise)|GoBots]], who share that feature. His uncharacteristic willingness to only eat parts of worlds and leave their populations alive to serve him, and his death-by-fungus, however, are harder to explain away.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Beast Era cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|From most stories of Unicron told in this continuity, it is apparent that he staged an attack upon Cybertron in 2005 as he did in several other timelines, and that his head orbited Cybertron following his destruction as it did in the Generation 1 cartoon.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice Actor:&#039;&#039; [[Blu Mankuma]] (English), [[Hidetoshi Nakamura]] (Japanese)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Possession-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|250px|This model must have taken them, what, three minutes?]]&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] appeared on prehistoric [[Earth]] and was questioned by the stranded [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] about how he came to be this way, Starscream &amp;quot;explained&amp;quot; that his body was destroyed by Unicron while serving his master, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. This was, of course, a misrepresentation, and it was revealed later that it was actually Galvatron himself who killed Starscream. {{storylink|Possession}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the [[Vok]] spoke with [[Optimus Primal]] in Earth&#039;s pre-history, they took the form of Unicron&#039;s head, claiming that they scanned his mind and chose Unicron as an &amp;quot;authority figure&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] would later invoke the name of Unicron by referring to [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] as &amp;quot;Unicron&#039;s spawn&amp;quot; in a derogatory manner. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the dawn of time, Unicron recruited the [[Quintesson]]s to seek out the location of his nemesis, [[Primus]]. But when the Quintessons discovered Primus, now having taken the form of the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], they decided to delay reporting their findings so they could first exploit Primus to their own ends. After finding the &amp;quot;[[Vector Sigma|singular threat]]&amp;quot; to Unicron and discovering how to subvert it, they used it to create a [[Transformer|race of robotic beings]] which they could sell to other worlds for a price. {{storylink|Disclosure}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicrons dark essence.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Even Unicron&#039;s crap is evil.]]&lt;br /&gt;
After his destruction in 2005, Unicron&#039;s essence was sent spiraling through time and space, to crash on prehistoric Earth, prior to the conflict known as the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] which would occur on the planet. It is unclear if this was a deliberate attempt by Unicron to preserve his power or not, but this &amp;quot;[[Dark Essence]]&amp;quot; seemed to lack any real sentience, suggesting that it was merely Unicron&#039;s &amp;quot;power&amp;quot;, while his spark remained in his intact head in the future. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Terminus-Unicron.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Unicron makes his own light saber noises.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Dark Essence was discovered by a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] known as the Hunter, who recognized the dark god&#039;s power, and fashioned from the Essence the [[Matrix of Conquest]], a twisted version of the Autobot Matrix of Leadership which he used to conquer and rule over an apocalyptic 32nd Century future, under the name &amp;quot;[[Shokaract]]&amp;quot;. Resistance against Shokaract resulted in an attempt by his opponents to travel back and time and destroy the Dark Essence on prehistoric Earth, thereby erasing Shokaract from history, but the villain travelled back in time to stop this effort. [[Point Omega|A massive battle]] between him and Transformers from throughout the multiverse ensued, but eventually, thanks to the efforts of the [[Covenant]], history was altered so that Unicron&#039;s essence never arrived on prehistoric Earth, erasing this timeline—and Shokaract—from existence. {{storylink|Terminus (issue)|Terminus}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PrimevalDawn2-Unicron.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Predicting that Unicron will eventually show up is a pretty safe bet, really.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Just after the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] ended on prehistoric Earth, the [[Vok]] assembled a team from the remains of that war to counter [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]], Unicron&#039;s spawn. [[Primal Prime]], the leader of the Vok&#039;s team, had visions of a future apocalypse, involving Unicron, that encompassed every timeline in the [[multiverse]]. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 2}} After Tarantulas ripped the [[Matrix of Leadership]] from Primal Prime&#039;s torso, he oversaw the construction of a [[transwarp]] portal that would allow him to bring his prize as an offering to Unicron. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Though [[3H Productions|3H]] folded before this story could be completed, Tarantulas would of course not be successful, and the Matrix would be returned to its rightful place. (Because, you know, the [[Transformers: Universe (comic)|&#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; stories]] took place chronologically after it.)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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One week after the [[Great Reformatting]], the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] gangster [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]] succeeded in acquiring the [[Divine Light]], one of the Quintessons&#039; discarded attempts to subvert the will of Primus. As Cryotek used it steal Primus&#039;s power for himself, [[Sentinel Maximus]] warned him that flaunting Primus&#039;s power would catch the attention of Unicron and doom them all. Cryotek laughed at this, since Unicron had been dead since three centuries earlier, and the idea of his resurrection was a fairytale believed only by the naive. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:UnicronDeathstarII.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Guys. GUYS. Get that ring in the right place, or he&#039;ll never be able to eat.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Cryotek was defeated, and one year later Unicron struck once more. His body ruined and trapped between universes, he sought to revitalize himself by abducting Transformers from across the multiverse and pitting them against each other within the [[Cauldron]], a dark dimension contained within his own body, absorbing their [[energon radiation]] and eventually consuming their sparks. He chose to kidnap several Autobots and Maximals from the technorganic Cybertron, but that was also the staging ground from which Primus chose to launch a counterattack. Primus gathered an army from many different universes and put the resurrected [[Optimus Primal]] at its head. {{storylink|Abduction}}&lt;br /&gt;
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These &amp;quot;[[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]]&amp;quot; raided Unicron to free his captives from their prison cities, battling Unicron&#039;s own legion of &amp;quot;[[Minion of Unicron|Minions]]&amp;quot; all the while. [[Universe war|These conflicts]] escalated for months or perhaps longer, their intensity rivaling the [[Cybertronian Civil Wars|Great Wars]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Optimus Primal&#039;s bio in the [[Revelations Part 3|Transformers Collectors&#039; Club comic #9]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This all came to an abrupt end during the final battle, when Unicron simply vanished due somehow to the [[Unicron Singularity]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====IDW &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; comics====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ascending4-Shokaractsfuture.jpg|left|thumb|300px|FOOLISH, DOOMED CREATURE.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sometime after a series of events similar to those of [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Big Convoy]]&#039;s [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|experiences]] [[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (franchise)|on]] [[Gaea]] in another universe, Unicron&#039;s heralds, the [[Blendtron]]s, were instructed by the Chaos Bringer&#039;s essence to gather the [[Angolmois]] capsules scattered across the galaxy, which contained Unicron&#039;s energy. The taint of Angolmois would cause unrest and violence across Cybertron as the planet tore itself apart in renewed savage mindless conflict. At the same time, Unicron&#039;s chosen yet unwitting vessel, Shokaract, was fed Angolmois by the Blendtrons, having been convinced that it would grant him the power to be reborn as a god. In one potential timeline, this did indeed happen as Unicron was reborn from Shokaract&#039;s corrupted form, and the Chaos Bringer proceeded to consume Cybertron itself. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 1|The Ascending #1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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However, this was averted before it came to pass—thanks to the actions of the in-temporal-limbo [[Magmatron]], who alerted [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and by extension Lio Convoy to Unicron&#039;s plan and enlightened Shokaract when the tyrant was temporarily shunted into Magmatron&#039;s personal purgatory. Realizing what his ascension actually entailed, Shokaract tore the [[Matrix of Conquest|Anti-Matrix]] from his chest, sacrificing himself and ending Unicron&#039;s plan at re-ascension. {{storylink|The Ascending issue 4|The Ascending #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During Megatron&#039;s rule of Cybertron, [[Rattrap]] once compared the Predacon&#039;s [[Grand Mal|big floating head]] as a &amp;quot;monument to Unicron&amp;quot;, implying that the Chaos Bringer&#039;s head orbited Cybertron after his defeat. By the time of Megatron&#039;s rule, however, it had apparently left the planet&#039;s orbit, as it was never seen. {{storylink|Prometheus Unbound}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; CD-ROM comic===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unicron tfu cdrom.jpg|left|thumb|200px|I&#039;m gonna steal every single Decepticon every single year. Nobody investigate, mmmkay?]]&lt;br /&gt;
In an universe where [[Optimus Primal]] led the [[Autobot]]s and [[Reptilion]] led the [[Decepticon]]s, a ship arrived once a year when the Transformers&#039; civil war reached a fever pitch. The ship abducted every Decepticon it could find and promptly left.&lt;br /&gt;
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These Decepticons were brought to Unicron, who was preparing them for an eventual, ultimate battle for the universe. But unknown to even Unicron, Primus, the sentient core of Cybertron, was amassing an army of Autobots that rivalled Unicron&#039;s army of Decepticons. Could Primus meet Unicron&#039;s challenge, or was the universe doomed? {{Storylink|Universe CD-ROM}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Unicron Trilogy==&lt;br /&gt;
===Toy pack-in comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Armadaminicomic4-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Check out my tiny buildings!]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Transformers were unaware of Unicron&#039;s gradual approach during the climax of their civil war. [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] was defeated and imprisoned, and just when he had escaped, the Planet-Eater suddenly appeared over their planet. Only time would tell if the Transformers could possibly defeat him! {{storylink|Armada Volume 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Apparently, they could, and years later Galvatron was reborn as Megatron deep inside the [[Unicron&#039;s core|core]] of the defeated Unicron. {{storylink|Energon Volume 1}} The threat of Unicron still loomed over the [[Transformer]]s. {{Storylink|Energon Volume 2}} {{Storylink|Energon Volume 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The nearly-dead body of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|a dying Cybertron&#039;s Optimus Prime]] was sent ahead by Unicron to his next target universe, as a &amp;quot;calling card&amp;quot;. Additionally, Unicron sent a group of heralds—incarnations of [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], and [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]—to this second universe to find the Mini-Con Matrix and kill that universe&#039;s Optimus Prime and Megatron. The heralds did not realize that their target Optimus Prime had been accidentally transported to the initial, dying Cybertron. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 1 of 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime found one lone survivor, [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]], and begged him to tell him what was going on. Spinister told him that the &amp;quot;heart of darkness, the root of all evil&amp;quot; had ravaged their world. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 3 of 4}} When Unicron loomed over them, Spinister surrendered himself to his fate. Spinister soon returned as an avatar for Unicron, who found this Optimus Prime&#039;s presence to be an &amp;quot;anomaly&amp;quot;. Soon [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] managed to trace Optimus Prime to this dying universe and travel there to rescue him. Using the power of the Mini-Con Matrix, Prime and Jetfire were able to combine into Jet Optimus and fire a powerful shot into the heart of Unicron. Though they were too late to save this Cybertron, they could return home and prepare for Unicron&#039;s coming there. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 4 of 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime called for an alliance with the Decepticons and the Mini-Cons, hoping to unite their forces against the coming Dark god. After warping to Cybertron&#039;s surface, Unicron himself arrived, and announced that they would all soon be consumed. During the following battle, Unicron was curious about the Transformers [[Airazor (Armada)|Airazor]], [[Cheetor (Armada)|Cheetor]], [[Rhinox (Armada)|Rhinox]] and [[Terrorsaur (Armada)|Terrorsaur]], and abducted them for future purposes. Unicron was ultimately defeated by the Mini-Con Matrix, boosted from the additional power of two universes&#039; Mini-Cons. This universe&#039;s [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], having made a bid for Unicron&#039;s power, was standing on the surface of the planet-eater when he was destroyed, and his body was also lost, his spark trapped within Unicron&#039;s remains. {{storylink|The End}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ThisEvilReborn-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|You never see him transform to robot mode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ten years later, his broken body was still left floating in space after his defeat. Despite his damaged form, his [[Unicron&#039;s core|core]] presented huge potentials for power, and so [[Alpha Quintesson]] gathered together a group of Decepticon dissidents under the leadership of [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] and transformed them into &amp;quot;[[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]]&amp;quot;. He promised these Terrorcons this power in exchange for their services. Meanwhile, Megatron&#039;s consciousness was trapped within this core, and it called out to Optimus Prime to help free him. Alpha Quintesson was secretly working for Unicron himself, and he sent the corrupted forms of Airazor, Cheetor, Rhinox, and Terrorsaur, his &amp;quot;[[Unicron&#039;s Four Horsemen|Four Horsemen]]&amp;quot;, to Cybertron to distract the Autobots from Unicron&#039;s revival. {{storylink|This Evil Reborn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime, who received Megatron&#039;s message, turned to the [[Autobot High Council]] for permission to dedicate an army towards Unicron&#039;s return and his intent to consume alleged huge amounts of [[energon]] on Earth, but the Council dismissed these concerns as paranoia. While they did not grant Prime his army, they did permit him to travel to Earth alone. Before Prime could get out of the building, Unicron&#039;s Horsemen struck. Prime and the Council realized this was an act of war perpetrated by Unicron, and so Prime&#039;s original pleas were finally heard. &lt;br /&gt;
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As drones continued to repair Unicron, Megatron managed to assert his will on these drones, who fashioned him a new body. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:WhatLiesBeneath3-Unicroninterior.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Unicron has a big [[negative universe]] [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] collection.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After defeating Scorponok and his Terrorcons on Earth, Optimus Prime stepped through a portal back to Cybertron to assemble a team of reinforcments... but instead on the other end of the portal he found himself within Unicron himself, summoned by Megatron&#039;s consciousness. {{storylink|Omni-Potent}} Optimus Prime argued with Megatron, denying that he would ever help his thought-dead foe inhabit his new body. Megatron countered with images of a massive-scale Terrorcon attack on Earth. Alpha Quintesson had used Unicron&#039;s power to reconfigure [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] into Mirage, and [[Moscow]], [[Toronto]], and [[Los Angeles]] were under heavy siege. Still, Optimus Prime resisted helping Megatron, even with the promise of teaming up to destroy the remnants of Unicron, as he feared releasing Megatron in his new body would be unleashing an equal evil. &lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, after images of carnage on Earth overwhelmed him, Optimus Prime caved to Megatron&#039;s demands, and Prime began travelling through Unicron under Megatron&#039;s direction. After falling in some goo, Prime located the sensor array that was keeping Megatron&#039;s consciousness from entering his new body. It worked, and Megatron was free... though Optimus Prime was subsequently located by Unicron&#039;s internal defenses. He is last seen having defeated these antibodies, with a bandolier and his hand-held cannon, telling Unicron he was coming for him. {{storylink|Multiplicity}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|In unreleased issues:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Previously, Unicron had destroyed [[Quintessa]], and [[Alpha Quintesson]] was the sole survivor. With the [[Initiator]], Alpha attempted to escape Unicron, only for his ship to be pulled to the planet eater. {{storylink|Doomsday Redux!}}  The energon used for Unicron&#039;s reactivation came not from Earth, but from [[Nervissa]], a fact Optimus Prime discovered after connecting to Unicron&#039;s consciousness. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 1}} Alpha Quintesson sought to destroy Unicron and had a [[seismic-shock warhead]] teleported to Unicron. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 2}} In the later chaos of an alternate-universe [[Quintesson]] invasion of Cybertron, Unicron awoke and began to strike out against the Transformers. Realizing that their planet was open to Unicron&#039;s attack, the Quintessons attacked Unicron, to no avail. The Quintessons are destroyed, and the Transformers manage to delay Unicron enough for the warhead to explode, destroying the planet. The shockwaves from Unicron&#039;s destruction created a [[Unicron Singularity|black hole]] from the portal to the alternate-universe Quintessa. {{storylink|Armageddon Part 5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron was evidently very active in this universe at various points in time, although the precise chronological order of his activities is unclear.&lt;br /&gt;
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At some undetermined point in the past of this universe, Unicron was approached by the survivors of [[Planet X (Cybertron)|Planet X]], a world that had been destroyed in a war with the inhabitants of the Giant Planet, [[Gigantion]]. In return for the chance to gain revenge on Gigantion, the survivors swore loyalty to Unicron, and &amp;quot;Planet X&amp;quot; became something of a code-phrase that identified those in the service of the planet-eater.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|Liner notes included with the DVD release of &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039; in [[Japan]] claim that Planet X is actually the body of Unicron from a parallel universe. This would not appear to be compatible with the Western storyline, nor, indeed, with the date later given to the planet&#039;s destruction on the [[TakaraTomy]] &amp;quot;[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/bible/index.html World of the Transformers]&amp;quot; website.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Cybertronian legend refers to an attack by Unicron on the planet that was ultimately thwarted by the mighty Autobot warrior, [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|Omega Supreme]]. {{storylink|Omega Supreme (episode)|Omega Supreme}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Mark Acheson]] (English), [[Katsumi Chō]] (Japanese)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Alliance-Unicronmoon.jpg|right|thumb|200px|That&#039;s no moon!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron&#039;s first attack on Cybertron in the present day was an indirect one, over a million years in the making, begun when he opted to disguise his dormant body as Cybertron&#039;s moon. From this secret vantage point, he implanted his own cells within the planet, where they germinated and grew into the small race of robots known as the [[Mini-Con]]s. Unicron hoped to use the Mini-Cons to increase the ferocity of the Autobot/Decepticon war, and feed off of the energies released in the conflict, but an encounter with a group of [[Rad White|time-displaced]] [[Carlos Lopez|human]] [[Alexis Thi Dang|children]] planted the seed of sentience and free will within the Mini-Cons, who ultimately rebelled against their creator and fled Cybertron, crash-landing on the planet Earth. {{storylink|Origin}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Union-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Don&#039;t mind me, just chillin&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Mini-Cons were reawakened a million years later in 2010, they were detected by the Autobots and Decepticons, who followed their signal to Earth. {{storylink|First Encounter}} Unicron also picked up the signal, and dispatched his minion [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], an inhabitant of Planet X who would occasionally serve as an avatar for Unicron&#039;s spark, to carry on his work. {{storylink|Gale}} Sideways escalated the conflict by manipulating control of the three Mini-Con weapons, the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]], the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom]] shield and the [[Requiem Blaster (Armada)|Requiem Blaster]], but eventually arranged for all three to be returned to Cybertron, where he stole them and used them to reawaken Unicron.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ArmadaUnicron02.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The Power Cosmic gives you wrinkles.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Shedding his moon disguise and transforming to robot mode, Unicron turned on Cybertron, only to be met with resistance in the form of the united armada of Autobots and Decepticons {{storylink|Alliance}}, and his own Mini-Cons, who had linked together and formed a giant duplicate of his body. {{storylink|Union}} Now at full power, however, it was child&#039;s play for Unicron to exert control over his creations, and bring the Mini-Cons under his thumb once more. Again, it was thanks to the Autobots&#039; human allies—the same children who had been sent back in time and given the Mini-Cons free will in the first place—that the Mini-Cons struggled free of Unicron&#039;s control, including the three Mini-Con weapons, who broke free and left Unicron&#039;s body deactivated. Believing the threat over, [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] then challenged Optimus Prime to their final battle, only for the hatred and ferocity of their fight to awaken Unicron once more. To end the circle of hate that gave Unicron life, Galvatron allowed himself to be consumed by the monster, and in a brilliant flash of light, Unicron apparently ceased to exist. {{storylink|Mortal Combat}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[David Kaye]], [[Mark Acheson]] (English), [[Nobutoshi Canna]] (Japanese), [[Fredrik Beckmann]] (Swedish)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MegatronRaid Unicronhead.jpg|left|thumb|200px|If I need to steal [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]&#039;s eyes again, I quit.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In truth, however, Unicron had survived, and for the next ten years, continued to consume planets in other regions of space. One such planet was the world known as [[Planet Q]], whose inhabitants fought back by detonating the planet&#039;s core in Unicron&#039;s face. Badly damaged by the explosion, Unicron fell into a state of dormancy, but the life essence of the planet&#039;s ruler—the being who would come to be known as [[Alpha Quintesson|Alpha Q]]—continued to exist within him, and began a not-entirely-sane plan to use Unicron&#039;s powers to recreate everything the Chaos-Bringer had ever destroyed. {{storylink|Alpha Q: Identity}} Recreating the armies of Planet Q as &amp;quot;Terrorcons&amp;quot;, Alpha Q had them attack Autobot facilities on Earth and throughout the [[solar system]] to gather the [[energon]] that would be necessary for his plan to work. {{storylink|Cybertron City (episode)|Cybertron City}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energon Unicron.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Unicron sported [[Neon|awesome]] [[Black repaint|colors]] during &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unbeknownst to Alpha Q, Megatron&#039;s corpse and spark remained within Unicron, and he slowly siphoned off some of the gathered Energon, allowing him to be reborn in his own new body. To escape Megatron&#039;s fury, Alpha Q jettisoned Unicron&#039;s head and escaped in it, while Megatron took over Unicron&#039;s body, and continued to gather Energon in order to rebuild Unicron to use as his ultimate weapon. {{storylink|Megatron Resurrected}} As the climax of this plan neared, a joint attack by Alpha Q, the Autobots and their human allies saw all of Earth&#039;s Energon channeled into Unicron&#039;s head, which Alpha Q then rammed into Unicron&#039;s body. {{storylink|Unicron Unleashed}} The positively-charged Energon of Earth reacted with the negatively-charged Energon running through Unicron, tearing open a fissure in reality leading to a new area of space where planets Unicron consumed were recreated, and sustained through the Energon radiated from Unicron&#039;s head, which had now become a glowing red sun. {{storylink|Open Fire!}} {{storylink|Ripped Up Space}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron eats blizzard.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Unicron should stop eating so many Blizzards.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron&#039;s body, damaged once more, lay in the dark reaches near the fissure, and the Decepticons began to raid Alpha Q&#039;s new planets for the Energon necessary to revive Unicron again. {{storylink|A Heroic Battle}} This time, they succeeded, and Megatron directed Unicron&#039;s body to retrieve his head, extinguishing the Energon Sun and killing Alpha Q in the process. But the power of Unicron proved too much for Megatron to control, as Unicron began to take over Megatron&#039;s body. {{storylink|The Power of Unicron}} The Autobots made a valiant but futile attempt to stop him, but Unicron decimated them. Just as things seemed hopeless, a surge of power came that allowed Optimus-Supreme to grow to Unicron&#039;s size and powered up the other Autobots, {{storylink|Optimus Supreme}} and after a long and hard battle Optimus destroyed Unicron&#039;s body. {{storylink|Unicron Perishes}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energon-Unicrons-Arms.jpg|right|thumb|200px|&amp;quot;Geodude geeeeoooo geodude.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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None of the Transformers were aware, however, that Unicron lived on in two forms: his miniscule Spark, floating in space, and his consciousness, which lay buried in Megatron&#039;s mind. With quiet, subconscious nudging, Unicron led Megatron to a massive reservoir of &amp;quot;[[Super Energon]]&amp;quot; beneath Cybertron&#039;s surface, {{storylink|Ambition}} which transformed him into Galvatron upon his first exposure. {{storylink|Wishes}} After a series of failed battles, Galvatron proceeded to expose himself to the Super Energon once again, and this time grew to a gigantic height. {{storylink|Galvatron Terror}} Unicron seized control of his body again for a new vessel and set out to rejoin with his Spark, but a Primus-empowered Optimus Supreme engaged him in battle once more, and drew all of Unicron&#039;s consciousness out of Galvatron and sealed it within his own Spark. {{storylink|Destructive Power}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:EnergonUnicronOrbTheSun.jpg|left|thumb|180px|&amp;quot;How could this puny thing be Unicron?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
—[[Kicker Jones]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
Enraged, Galvatron prepared to destroy Unicron&#039;s Spark, but it merged with him, enlarging him again, leading to another battle with Optimus Supreme, this time bolstered by the combined energy of all his troops&#039; Sparks. {{storylink|Spark (episode)|Spark}} Meanwhile, Primus merged with the Super Energon, creating a foundling sun which arrived at the site of the battle. Taking control of his body for a brief moment, Galvatron made the decision to plunge himself into the infant sun to rid himself of Unicron&#039;s possession. The super energon mass, having now received Unicron&#039;s spark, ignited into a powerful red sun which gave new life to Alpha Q&#039;s worlds. {{storylink|The Sun}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; cartoon====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cyb ep20 unicron chunks.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Ssssh, don&#039;t tell &#039;&#039;Galaxy Force&#039;&#039; that I&#039;m here!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The bitter [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Overhaul]] was a loner, but his attitude changed when, in deep space, he was trapped underneath some debris near the remains of Unicron and saved by [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Honor}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicronsingularity.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The cause of—and solution to—all of our continuity problems.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Primus&#039;s plan to trap Unicron in the heart of a new sun failed when the star collapsed into a massive [[Unicron Singularity|black hole]] (sometimes known as the &amp;quot;Unicron Singularity&amp;quot;) that threatened the entire multiverse. The collapse of the sun also allowed [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] to escape, [[Armor of Unicron|but not before integrating what remained of Unicron&#039;s body into himself]], increasing his power to nightmarish new heights. {{storylink|Fallen (episode)|Fallen}} &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to strengthening the Decepticon leader, the Armor of Unicron apparently gave Megatron access to a few of the Chaos Bringer&#039;s reality-warping powers, including the ability to unleash a devastating Energon aura {{storylink|Starscream (episode)|Starscream}} {{storylink|Showdown}}, create new Transformer bodies, upgrade and repair fallen Transformers {{storylink|Darkness (episode)|Darkness}}, and tap into the power of the [[Cyber Planet Key]]s. {{storylink|Revelation (episode)|Revelation}} {{storylink|Fury|Fury}} The Decepticon leader&#039;s newest plan also held hints of the dark god&#039;s old agenda, as he intended to use the Keys to accelerate the black hole&#039;s growth and destroy the entire universe (albeit with the intent to remake it in his image afterwards).&lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately for Unicron and Megatron (who again upgraded into Galvatron), the black hole would be sealed away by Primus himself after the Autobots restored his full power. {{storylink|End}} The Armor of Unicron would be overwhelmed and destroyed along with its wearer in a final battle with Optimus Prime, wiping away the last traces of Unicron from the universe. {{storylink|Unfinished}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====&#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; comic====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unicroncybertron.jpg|right|150px|thumb|The Planet-Eater&#039;s back, and you&#039;re gonna be in trouble.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron&#039;s heralds [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] and [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime]] arrived on Cybertron, intent on unleashing the [[Dead Matrix]] on Primus&#039;s vulnerable essence—as the Matrix was the antithesis of Unicron, so too would the Dead Matrix ensure the destruction of Primus, thereby totally destabilizing the multiverse and reducing it to a sea of entropic chaos. For the first time, it would be possible for Unicron to strike at Primus in all realities simultaneously, ending their cosmic feud once and for all. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Ramjet and Nemesis Prime were ultimately stopped by Vector Prime and allies [[Sentinel Maximus]] and [[Omega Prime]], plucked from the midst of the &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; conflict by the multiverse-warping energies of the black hole. {{storylink|Revelations Part 1}} The Dead Matrix, however, was taken by Unicron&#039;s servant [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]] and cast into the heart of the black hole, freeing Unicron&#039;s spark, which entered the planet [[Yst]] and immediately began to sow chaos and disorder. Re-energized by the hatred and violence than ran rampant on Yst, Unicron formed a new, diminutive body for himself, born into the universe when Yst exploded. {{storylink|Revelations Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Sentinelmaximusunicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Sorry, did that previous image indicate that Unicron was still huge?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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During the time that followed, from behind the scenes Unicron orchestrated a civil war between the Mini-Cons stationed on Cybertron&#039;s moons. {{storylink|Revelations Part 4}} When Sentinel Maximus led a team of Autobots to stamp out the escalating conflict, Unicron&#039;s involvement was revealed, and he joined the battle himself alongside Soundwave. With no further use for the Mini-Cons, he murdered several of them and tried to capture [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] and [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], whom he had plans for. {{storylink|Revelations Part 5}} However, before Unicron could achieve victory, Primus was reawakened, and the dark god fled as Cybertron transformed into its robot mode. {{storylink|Revelations Part 6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Within the [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]] universal stream, the appearance and subsequent destruction of Unicron and the destruction of Primus&#039;s [[Xaaron|avatar]], {{Storylink|On the Edge of Extinction!}} as well as the tainting of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] caused by [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]], created a great many [[splinter timeline]]s. These events, as well as an earlier, undefined event related to [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], resulted in the creation of yet another splinter timeline, [[Primax 207.0 Epsilon]]. This universe overwrote a [[Gargent]] universe. {{storylink|Withered Hope}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Live-action &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie series==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|I&#039;m certain I can speak for all those pledged to the Decepticon cause when I say Unicron spells one thing, and that&#039;s trouble with a capital &#039;running and screaming&#039;.|Barricade|[[Transformers Comic issue 2.6|#6 (Vol.2)]]}} &lt;br /&gt;
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While the Transformer race appears ignorant of Unicron, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] has knowledge of him and encountered him {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|#12&#039;s Star Screams}} in an event where Unicron attempted to devour Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|#19&#039;s Star Screams}} We don&#039;t know how Starscream witnessed this (did he hop universes?) but it has left him terrified. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 17|#17&#039;s Star Screams}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2009, both [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] would also be aware of Unicron&#039;s existence. His sheer might scared him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|#6&#039;s Law and Disorder}} They know that [[fandom|you]] want to see Unicron in the third film and it &#039;&#039;sickens&#039;&#039; them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.13|#13&#039;s Law and Disorder}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Unicron Titan19.JPG|left|200px|thumb|&amp;quot;The psoriasis is barely slowing him down!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Stockade (Movie)|Stockade]] and his Decepticon chums attempted to rebirth Cybertron by sending out a summons that would attract any entity related to the lost [[AllSpark]], and then drawing that entity into Cybertron once it arrived.&lt;br /&gt;
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As that entity announced itself to be &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Unicron the Anti-Life!&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;, they felt like a right bunch of plonkers. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|Return to Cybertron: Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Unicron moved swiftly, transforming Cybertron into a scarier looking physical form and causing the planet&#039;s surface to becoming hostile to the Transformers on it. Stockade&#039;s attempts at communication were met with contempt and a strange attack. The new Unicron then warped into the Sol system, shot down an Autobot shuttle, and went &amp;quot;OM NOM NOM&amp;quot; at the sight of Earth. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 19|Return to Cybertron: Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The downed Autobots regrouped with Stockade&#039;s Decepticons and worked to take away the [[Nucleon]] that was powering Unicron&#039;s physical form. They succeeded in this by causing it to blow up and catch fire, which caused Unicron to draw on more Nucleon to recover, which fueled the fire and so on until the source ran out. Unicron disappeared, though whether he was dead or just gone is ambigious. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 20|Return to Cybertron: Part 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Either way, the changes Unicron had made to Cybertron remained. The teleportation equipment he&#039;d created was used by the Autobots to finally end the war. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 25|Revolution Part Three}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aligned continuity==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Exodus&#039;&#039; novel===&lt;br /&gt;
Unicron was defeated in his attempt to destroy Cybertron very early in its history, but emanations of his presence remained and were gathered and stored on [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] Station. This substance was a violently addictive poison that could pass on to another bot once its user died, and was dubbed the Sparks of Unicron or [[Dark Energon]]. Ultimately [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] achieved what Unicron did not by contaminating the [[core]] with Dark Energon, forcing the planet to shut down and reboot. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[John Noble]] (English), [[José Lavat]] (Latin American-Spanish)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise1-Unicronsilhouette.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Unicron ate the corners of this image.  See, &#039;cuz he&#039;s &#039;&#039;evil.&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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According to legend, at the beginning of time, Unicron and Primus battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long.  Until, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Over time, matter gravitated towards Unicron&#039;s fallen form, eventually forming a [[Earth |planet]] which found an orbit around a distant star. Prophesies foretold that should a certain planetary alignment occur, gravitational forces would wake Unicron from his slumber. In Optimus Prime&#039;s later view, Unicron had likely begun to transcend physical form. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In his three years in space, Megatron discovered the solidified form of Dark Energon, rumoured to be &amp;quot;the blood of Unicron&amp;quot;. A worried [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] referred to Unicron as a legendary &amp;quot;destroyer&amp;quot;, and called his blood the &amp;quot;Anti-Spark&amp;quot; as well. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron injected a piece of Dark Energon into himself and announced that he could hear Unicron&#039;s thoughts, much to Starscream&#039;s concern.{{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Some time later, as a planetary alignment foretold in a prophecy from the [[Covenant of Primus]] was drawing near, Megatron began to see visions of the future brought on by the sliver of Dark Energon that dwelt within his body. In one such vision, Megatron glimpsed the shadowed face of Unicron himself, and claimed that it was as if he could hear Unicron&#039;s own thoughts. [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Airachnid]] were less than convinced, but kept that fact to themselves. Much to everyone&#039;s shock, a volcano near the site of Optimus and Megatron&#039;s battle exploded and released a load of Dark Energon from the Earth&#039;s core. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise1-Unicronlistens.jpg|right|thumb|250px|&amp;quot;Disappointed that I&#039;m not the size of the moon or bigger? We&#039;ll soon fix that.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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As storms, earthquakes, and volcanoes erupted simultaneously across Earth, the Autobots began to suspect that Earth itself had Unicron as its core, explaining why Dark Energon was expelling from within. Meanwhile, Megatron ordered the [[Decepticon Miner]]s to mine the Dark Energon that spilled and at the same time he sought Unicron&#039;s attention at the maw of a volcano. Megatron presented himself as Unicron&#039;s herald and servant, an enemy of the Primes, but Unicron dismissed the Decepticon leader. If Megatron had failed to destroy the last of the Primes thus far on his own, Unicron believed Megatron&#039;s help was worthless. Similarly, Optimus Prime sought out Unicron elsewhere, traveling to the area which the Autobots believed to be the strongest epicenter of his consciousness. Unicron formed from a cliffside as a stone likeness of his old body near Optimus, while the Autobot leader made a passioned plea to the Chaos Bringer to spare the planets&#039; inhabitants. Unicron denied Optimus&#039;s pleas, as he considered the humans &amp;quot;parasites&amp;quot;, and he birthed multiple copies of himself from the landscape that surrounded Optimus Prime. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise2-bigdude.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Still not big enough for you?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus, soon joined by his fellow Autobots, blasted his way through increasingly larger Unicron avatars, until finally Unicron produced one even the Autobots couldn&#039;t beat. It raised a foot to crush Optimus, only for Megatron to lend a hand by blasting its head off. While the Autobots retreated to base to consider Megatron&#039;s plan, the Decepticon leader engaged more of the stone Unicrons, smashing them as fast as Unicron could produce them. Eventually, Megatron disappeared through the Autobot [[GroundBridge]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OneShallRise2-inside.jpg|right|thumb|250px|&amp;quot;So hey, Prime, I guess we&#039;re kind of like Ozzy and Drix, huh?&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Shut up.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
A short time later, Megatron and the Autobots used the GroundBridge to reach the core of Earth itself, where Unicron&#039;s eye peered around. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Inside the ancient robot, the Autobots and Megatron continued to look for Unicron&#039;s spark. A query from Optimus about how long it would take for Unicron to know that they were there got the reply, &amp;quot;He already does.&amp;quot; Suddenly, a swarm of flying drones, Unicron&#039;s own antibodies, began shooting at the Autobots in an attempt to cleanse the Chaos-Bringer&#039;s body of the intruders. The group effectively fought them off, until Megatron started his way towards Unicron&#039;s spark. Arcee, Bumblebee, and Bulkhead stayed behind to fight off the drones, and Optimus accompanied Megatron to the core of Unicron, and to his spark. &lt;br /&gt;
Once inside the enormous spark chamber, Optimus and Megatron were both hit by waves from the colossal robot&#039;s spark, and nearly incapacitated. Megatron began experiencing incredibly intense visions of Unicron, telling him to kill Prime. With great effort, Megatron rejected him, saying that he was commanded by no one. Meanwhile, Prime righted himself, and called upon the power of the Matrix- the combined wisdom of all the Primes- to bring itself out. &lt;br /&gt;
However, Megatron was overwhelmed in this time by Unicron, and completely possessed by the ancient god, he ran towards Optimus to kill him. &lt;br /&gt;
But, as Megatron approached, Optimus unleashed the full power of the Matrix unto the dark god, overwhelming him, putting him into stasis, and quite possibly extinguishing his spark.  &lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Matthew King]] (English)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Armadavideogame-Unicron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Unicron takes a shot in the mouth.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Autobots defeated the Decepticons on [[Earth]] and had secured the majority of the Mini-Cons there, Unicron made his appearance above Cybertron, intent on destroying the planet. Optimus Prime&#039;s team of Autobots and the Mini-Cons returned home via a warp gate to see the Chaos Bringer unleash a wave of destruction upon the great cities of their planet. The Mini-Cons joined together to form the [[Matrix Cannon]], the [[Vanguard Booster]] and the [[Nemesis Shield]] for the Autobots to use against Unicron. The Autobots flew into Unicron&#039;s maw and blasted their way into his energy core, damaging it enough to send Unicron spiralling out of control and destroying him. {{storylink|Transformers (PS2)|Transformers}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Unicron/toys}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Model-TheEntity.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Flamboyantcron]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Since Unicron is a villain and because I was fooling around at that time, I decided to make him look demonic with goatee, horns, bat-like wings and eagle talons for feet. I got the idea of Unicron from the planet Saturn and Satur. Actually, the original name was &amp;quot;Ingestor,&amp;quot; but the writer changed it to Unicron when he saw the design, probably because of the &amp;quot;horns.&amp;quot;|character designer [[Floro Dery]], [http://transformersph.blogspot.com/2007/06/floro-derys-transformers-exhibit-and.html Floro Dery&#039;s TransFormers Exhibit And Interview]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* Before the Transformers brand even existed, Takara designer [[Hiroyuki Hataike]] drew up a &amp;quot;Planet-Robot&amp;quot; toy for the &#039;&#039;[[Micro Change]]&#039;&#039; line, a design that would eventually inspire Unicron. &lt;br /&gt;
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* In early preproduction for &#039;&#039;The Transformers: The Movie&#039;&#039;, Unicron was referred to as the &#039;&#039;&#039;Entity&#039;&#039;&#039;. A model sheet from later in the movie&#039;s preproduction revealed that, at one point, the &#039;&#039;planet&#039;&#039; Unicron would turn into the &#039;&#039;robot&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Ingestor&#039;&#039;&#039;. An early rough draft of the film detailed some of the specifics of this; the disembodied voice of Ingestor would have presented itself to Megatron as merely the master and custodian of the planet Unicron, communicating from somewhere within the planet. He would remake the [[Life Spark]] of Megatron and other fallen Decepticons into Galvatron and his troops, and implore them to bring him energon to feed the planet, consumed with straw-slurping and lip-smacking sounds. Only at the draft&#039;s climax were Ingestor and Unicron revealed to be one and the same, as the energy the planet had been absorbing was revealed to be required to power the planet&#039;s transformation into robot mode. We used &amp;quot;robot&amp;quot; loosely, though; many pieces of organic terminology are used throughout the draft to describe planet and robot forms, such as the planet being covered in what appeared to be grass trees but which were actually the hairs of his humanoid form. At the end of the early rough draft, Unicron is destroyed completely by the Life Spark of Optimus Prime. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://boltax.blogspot.com/2010/12/heritaage-auctions-transformers-movie.htmlHeritage Auctions Transformers: The Movie script] @ Disciples of Boltax&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Character designer [[Floro Dery]] claims his designs for Unicron were very large and complicated. For example, there were three drawings of Unicron&#039;s internal organs that were 2&#039;x7&#039; each. Dery also explains that Unicron&#039;s television monitor-covered [[Unicron&#039;s core|core]] is &amp;quot;like security monitors in a building,&amp;quot; and that he must watch these screens manually to know what is going on, rather than the information being diverted directly into him from the screens&#039; source. And finally, the orbiting moon that is seen in the discarded &#039;&#039;Generation 1&#039;&#039; prototype by Takara (see [[Unicron/toys]]) was intended to be &amp;quot;a kind of mini-Unicron, like Mini-Me of Dr. Evil.&amp;quot; Floro Dery&#039;s kind of eccentric. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Zobovor&#039;s [http://web.archive.org/web/20060625115408/http://members.aol.com/tfencyc/interview_dery.html Interview with Floro Dery]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:FloroDeryUnicronNotes.jpg|right|thumb|150px|That&#039;s no moon. No seriously, ignore that moon.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Floro Dery&#039;s production notes as shown on his designs for Unicron (then &amp;quot;The Entity&amp;quot;) reveal some very interesting things that don&#039;t quite come through in the original film or were dropped:&lt;br /&gt;
** The spheres on Unicron&#039;s rings are meant to be roughly equivalent in size to &#039;&#039;Earth&#039;&#039;. &lt;br /&gt;
** The surface of Unicron was originally a dense jungle of metal and mechanical creatures.&lt;br /&gt;
** Dery&#039;s roundabout reasoning for giving Unicron rings is explained: &amp;quot;Saturn sounds like Satur [presumably meaning &#039;&#039;satyr&#039;&#039;]. Satur is synonymous with the Devil. The Entity is a Devil-like planet. This is the reason why I designed the Entity like the planet Saturn.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
** A moon is included (as in Takara&#039;s G1 toy prototype), but never explained aside from being flashy and conductive.&lt;br /&gt;
** All the circular portions on the planet&#039;s surface were to flash and reflect different colors to &amp;quot;dazzle the viewers&amp;quot; and eliminate the epileptics in the audience.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:TFTM-Unicronalternatehead.jpg|right|thumb|150px|He shaved!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* An earlier version of Unicron&#039;s head showed up during Unicron&#039;s transformation scene in &#039;&#039;The Transformers: The Movie&#039;&#039;. Originally animated for [[The Transformers: The Movie promo]], this version has no [[facial hair]] and has extra greebles all over his face. It also colored the helmet entirely gray, save an orange mohawk. In [[Transformers: The Animated Movie|IDW&#039;s comic book adaptation of the animated film]], [[Don Figueroa]] drew a hybrid between the two designs, combining the facial hair and the orange mohawk.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The [[Unicron Trilogy]], the series of Transformers franchises that includes &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]&#039;&#039;, was so named by Hasbro designer [[Aaron Archer]] because of Unicron&#039;s importance in each story.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Roberto Orci]] was interested in having Unicron in the then untitled &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Transformers 3]]&#039;&#039;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/ask-roberto-orci-roundup-january-14---mythology-money-shots-jolt-military-and-bringing-chaos-166603/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Unicron has the ability to create [[tainted world]]s, but none have yet been discovered.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The animated film and the following season of the cartoon are extraordinarily consistent about Unicron never actually moving his mouth while speaking, suggesting his voice may be &#039;&#039;broadcast&#039;&#039; as opposed to physically produced.&lt;br /&gt;
**Armada similarly features a lack of mouth movement, however, he DOES move it while speaking once.&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Transformers: Prime&#039;&#039; features another exception, with Unicron actually speaking with his mouth more often.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039; (ユニクロン &#039;&#039;Yunikuron&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Hungarian:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unikron&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Unikornisz&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Unicorn&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Korean:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039; (유니크론 &#039;&#039;Yunikeuron&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Mandarin:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Taiwan, 尤尼克隆, &#039;&#039;Yóu Ní Kè Lúng&#039;&#039;), &#039;&#039;&#039;Yǚ-zhòu Dà-dì&#039;&#039;&#039; (China, 宇宙大帝, &amp;quot;Emperor of the Universe&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Polish:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Unicron&#039;&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;&#039;Rogacz&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;The Horned One&#039;&#039;), &#039;&#039;&#039;Jednorożec&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Unicorn&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Unicron/Unicron/unicron.htm Unicron on TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;amp;char=Unicron Unicron&#039;s Universe profile at NFTA.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformersontheshelf.com/UnicronPage Unicron (toy) History]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/pages/transformers-reviews/gallery/766/micron+legend/Green+Unicron+%28Lucky+Draw%29.html Photo gallery and review of Green Lucky Draw Unicron]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-gallery/merchandise/25/merchandise/Unicron+Japanese+Store+Display.html Inflatable Unicron store display gallery]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References and footnotes==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Alternators characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Armada characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars II characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars II planets]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars Neo characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cybertron characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cybertron Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Energon planets]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 gods]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 planets]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Ghosts]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Kiss Players characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Moons]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:War for Cybertron characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:The many deaths of Optimus Prime</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* TF Prime */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Games?==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m just asking, should the [[Movie]] games be counted? [[User:76.169.169.60|76.169.169.60]] 05:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would vote against.  Those are more a statement about how games work than about Optimus Prime.  [[User:JW|JW]] 12:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
So, the [[Transformers The Game]]&#039;s Decepticon campaign doesn&#039;t count? Thanks for the reply, though. [[User:76.169.169.60|76.169.169.60]] 00:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Please indent your replies.&lt;br /&gt;
:And, yes, that would be my vote.  It&#039;s the nature of a game, where one can play both sides, that the guys on the other side are gonna die.  It&#039;s not intrinsically relevant to the &amp;quot;Optimus dies&amp;quot; trope.  [[User:JW|JW]] 01:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Megatron&#039;s deaths==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve been wondering, since we&#039;ve got this article out, should we make one on the deaths and resurrections of Megatron? Let&#039;s face it: Old Buckethead&#039;s been offed a few times in career as well, often for the same reasons (except maybe the Christ one). Should we document those as well? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m open to a &amp;quot;The many deaths of Megatron&amp;quot; article, sure.  I can think of three or four without trying too hard.  [[User:JW|JW]] 21:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::This subject could almost have it&#039;s own category, &amp;quot;The Many Deaths of BLANK.&amp;quot; Also, why is Optimus Primal included on this page? He&#039;s not Optimus Prime. What do people think of him getting his own &amp;quot;The Many Deaths of...&amp;quot; article?--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 23:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;d much prefer Optimus Primal stay here.  He&#039;s an Optimus, and was the leading character in his show, so I think he best fits here.&lt;br /&gt;
:::As for &amp;quot;The many deaths of BLANK&amp;quot;, the thing about Optimus Prime is that a half-dozen &#039;&#039;different&#039;&#039; Optimuses have &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; died.  Similarly for a handful of Megatrons.  But, in the case of (say) Dirge, there&#039;s only one Dirge who died a buncha times, so we can cover that on his page.  Similarly, the only Jazz who died is the one from the 2007 movie.  Optimus and Megs are the only &#039;&#039;major&#039;&#039; cross-continuity characters who have a tradition of dying.  (That I can think of.)  [[User:JW|JW]] 00:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Does Unicron count?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Based on how I understand it, I would say no, since Unicron is just one single entity who travels across the multiverse. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What about Starscream?  He died in G1 and was exorcised from several hosts, and the Unicron Trilogy Starscream died at least twice, didn&#039;t he? - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 06:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Maybe we should have a segment at the end like this-&lt;br /&gt;
While Optimus Prime is not the only one to die and be reborn like this, he has done so by far the most. Other characters who have done this somewhat regularly are Megatron (list of Deaths and Rebirths), Dirge (list of deaths), Starscream (list of deaths and rebirths).[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 12:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I was thinking about this. We should make the article. Megatron has died or appearently died many more times than Optimus Prime. Yes I know, Megatron almost never dies. But times where like in Transport to Oblivian, where the Space bridge destroys everyone and everything, except Megatron. We should make an article for those.[[User:Noob saibot red|Noob saibot red]] 14:57, 28 December 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: Well, going from memory, I can think of several for Megatron/G:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: G1 Megatron is wounded by Optimus Prime resurrected as Galvatron in the movie, destroying his original body and rewriting his personality.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: BW Megatron is plunged into Cybertron&#039;s core at the end of BM.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: Armada Galvatron is killed midway through Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: Movie Megatron is rendered comatose and frozen before the first movie (borderline case) and is killed by Prime at the end of the first movie. He&#039;s later killed again at the end of DOTM.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: Animated Megatron spent 50 years mutilated and offline.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: Prime Megatron hovers on the brink of death for the majority of season one.&lt;br /&gt;
In addition to this, we have Galvatron&#039;s deaths, which are sometimes connected to Megatron and sometimes not. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 18:05, 28 December 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Death Of Ginrai==&lt;br /&gt;
Now I know he isn&#039;t actually Optimus Prime, and only a [s]Pretender[/s] wannabe, but looking at the episode descriptions for Victory, it looks like God Ginrai goes through the exact same process as every other Prime like character, dying then coming back, with a new [s]toy[/s] body, the only difference here being his new body is not very Prime like at all, and he doesn&#039;t seem to be the real leader at this point. We have Primal here, so surely we can squeeze in Ginrai&#039;s Death too?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 12:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nop, he is Jinrai not Optimus Prime. Though the darn RTM dub names him Optimus Prime. --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 12:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Not even if we state he is not actually Optimus Prime to avoid confusion? Say...&lt;br /&gt;
:::While he is not an actual Optimus Prime, God Ginrai, a &amp;quot;GodMaster&amp;quot; who looks like Optimus Prime (his toy was PowerMaster Optimus Prime) also goes through a similar Death and Rebirth in the Japan Only series of Transformers Victory. His Reborn form looks [[Victory_Leo|nothing]] like Optimus Prime though.[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 13:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:: If Optimus Primal, who isn&#039;t Prime but instead an expy of him who doesn&#039;t even have the same name, counts, so does Ginrai. I&#039;d say have both or none.&lt;br /&gt;
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== crocodile ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we mention the time when Optimus was changed into a crocodile?&lt;br /&gt;
:[[Alligatorcon|Alligator]]. And I&#039;d say no, because he wasn&#039;t dead. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== SG Megatron ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we mention him? (Seeing as he&#039;s pretty likely to be dead right now.) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:09, 20 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The page name is &#039;&#039;The many deaths of &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. Um. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 03:07, 21 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:True but SG Megs&#039; death is a reference to the fact that the leader of the good guys dies often. Hence why SG Optimus hasn&#039;t died (and been reborn) yet- because its the job of this universe&#039;s megs. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 08:27, 18 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::There ought to be articles for the many deaths of Megatron and Starscream. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 08:38, 18 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== AHM ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My memory of AHM is hazy but Optimus is pretty close to death for the first few issues right? He might not actually be dead but I noticed his &#039;&#039;death&#039;&#039; in Escalation was mentioned and seeing as how he doesn&#039;t actually die there either I took the liberty of adding AHM in. If the higher ups disagree could I at least get an explanation before it gets erased please. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 08:30, 18 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TF Prime ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As of &amp;quot;One Shall Rise pt3&amp;quot;, Orion Pax has lost all memory of being Optimus Prime. Does this constitute a death, since Optimus Prime currently does not exist?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Rubicon|Rubicon]] 00:30, 29 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s oddly tempting.  &amp;quot;[[The Death of Optimus Prime]]&amp;quot; would make a similar jump a few months later.  However, I would note that as the Autobots return, the following exchange occurs: &amp;quot;Optimus?  Is he-?&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Dead?  No.&amp;quot; - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 21:33, 11 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Many Deaths of Starscream ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think Starscream deserves a &amp;quot;many deaths&amp;quot; page of his own. I&#039;m not sure, but I think his deaths even outnumber Op&#039;s ones. In fact, just like Prime&#039;s deaths, they have various reasons to happen:&lt;br /&gt;
* To show that the Decepticon leader isn&#039;t going to tolerate traitors like him, thus presenting this leader as more dangerous than ever (this is mostly for season/series finales)&lt;br /&gt;
* To come back from death with a new body (to sell a new toy).&lt;br /&gt;
* To give an &amp;quot;anyone can die&amp;quot; vibe by killing such an important character.&lt;br /&gt;
* If the writer wants a &amp;quot;Autobot/Decepticon peace&amp;quot; kind of ending, Starscream is too evil to remain alive for the finale, so...&lt;br /&gt;
* If the writer wants an &amp;quot;all Decepticons die&amp;quot; kind of ending, Starscream will die just like anyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
* To have him becoming a ghost just like in G1 (sometimes overlaps with the second reason).&lt;br /&gt;
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--{{unsigned|186.9.67.39}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don&#039;t recall there are other Screamer Ghost outside &#039;&#039;G1&#039;&#039; continuity. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 11:20, 16 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Energon Starscream was a ghost in the Dreamwave comics.  In the cartoon he was sort of a zombie/ghost hybrid. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:39, 16 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I see, thanks. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 11:56, 16 January 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I see the point the guy is making, but i&#039;m not sure he outnumbers Optimus in deaths. [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 14:41, 16 January 2012 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
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	<entry>
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		<title>Family of Heroes</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Caswin: /* Quotes */&lt;/p&gt;
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|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039; ep 1&lt;br /&gt;
|image=ProtoformRBs.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=How tall are you, test subject? Four-nine? I was unaware they stacked human waste that high.&lt;br /&gt;
|next= Under Pressure&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Family of Heroes&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[December 17]], [[2011]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production company= [[Hasbro Studios]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writer=[[Nicole Dubuc]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Atomic Cartoons]]&lt;br /&gt;
|directors=[[Patrick Archibald]] and [[Nathan Chew]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;A team of Rescue Bots is assigned by Optimus Prime to work with the Burns family on the island of Griffin Rock&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
Somewhere in space, a drifting Autobot spaceship receives a message from [[Optimus Prime (RB)|Optimus Prime]] directing them to [[Earth]]. The ship automatically changes course and eventually touches down in a military base. The four members of [[Rescue Force Sigma-17]] emerge and are greeted by Optimus himself, who informs them that [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is no longer the [[Autobot]]s&#039; home.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the island of [[Griffin Rock]], [[Cody Burns]] is biking to school when his [[Charlie Burns|dad]] pulls up alongside in the old police car—it&#039;s soon to be replaced with a new car as part of the town&#039;s function as a hi-tech testing ground. Cody wants to test drive the new vehicles, but the rest of his family points out they&#039;re for grown ups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus tells the new arrivals that he has a new mission for them—to live with a [[human]] family and learn more about Earth, but they must do so disguised as normal machines. He gives them rescue vehicles to [[scanning|scan]], though [[Blades (RB)|Blades]] is unenthusiastic when he discovers the [[alternate mode]] he&#039;s ended up with flies. Optimus introduces them to Chief Charlie Burns, the only human who knows the [[Rescue Bots]]&#039; true nature.&lt;br /&gt;
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That afternoon, Cody arrives at the dedication where he meets [[Frankie Greene]] and her father [[Doc Greene]] in the audience, though Frankie&#039;s more interested in the new exhibit of robot dinosaurs at the [[Griffin Rock Natural History Museum|museum]]. Chief Burns introduces the gathered crowd to the Rescue Bots, describing them as new hi-tech robots which will work with him and his family as a rescue response unit. When a butterfly lands on [[Boulder]]&#039;s face, the Autobot instinctively goes to shoo it away, but is stopped by [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]], however Cody&#039;s suspicions are already raised. When Cody jumps up and knocks on Boulder&#039;s foot, he&#039;s told to get lost by [[Huxley Prescott|a reporter]]. The press photos are interrupted when word comes in of a fire at the Natural History Museum.&lt;br /&gt;
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Burns and his rescue squad head to the museum, although [[Dani Burns|Dani]] discovers her helicopter doesn&#039;t seem to like flying too high. [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] begins clearing the humans from the area, though is confused when a couple of Egyptian mummies fail to comply. [[Graham Burns|Graham]] is bemused when he tells Boulder to move some planters and the Autobot responds that it would ruin the aesthetics. They manage to get the fire out, and Graham locates the cause: a short in one of the robotic dinosaurs. While he&#039;s fixing it, Cody sneaks into the museum having followed the team on his bike. He&#039;s therefore there to witness Heatwave saving Chief Burns and Graham from a falling dinosaur head. Burns explains it as Heatwave having been left in rescue mode, and [[Kade Burns|Kade]] is glad to take the credit. As they leave the museum, the eyes on a tyrannosaurus rex light up ominously!&lt;br /&gt;
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That night, back in the fire station, the Rescue Bots take a lift down to a Cold War bunker underneath the station. Upstairs, Cody excuses himself from dinner with his family and heads downstairs where he catches the Rescue Bots complaining about their new gig. Heatwave has just decided they&#039;re going to leave when Cody speaks up. The Rescue Bots realize their cover is blown, but after introductions are made, Cody shows them that there are many tunnels leading around the island from the bunker. They check out a giant robot movie at a drive in, and Cody attempts to teach the Rescue Bots how to act like real robots as well as giving them tips on dealing with his siblings. Lessons are brought to a halt when they spot the robotic T-rex from the museum, now rampaging along the street. As it move into the drive-in, Cody gets Chase to start his lights, and they establish the thing is attracted to light. They begin leading the creature to a safe area while Cody contacts his dad.&lt;br /&gt;
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Burns takes the rest of his family in the old squad car and they soon catch up with the Rescue Bots as the chase moves outside town. While they try to work out how to deal with the rogue dinosaur, Cody calls Frankie. Soon Boulder is extracting a jail cell from the police station, which Dani and Blades fly to the scene. Meanwhile Chase keeps the T-rex occupied and Kade and Heatwave wet some ground to make mud. Kade is shocked when Heatwave transforms, attracts the dinosaur&#039;s attention, and then throws it into the mud. Dani lowers the makeshift cage over it, allowing Cody to shut the dinosaur down.&lt;br /&gt;
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The next day, they return the dinosaur to the museum, and Burns decides to get a picture of &amp;quot;his heroes&amp;quot; outside. After Heatwave tells Kade that Cody&#039;s part of the team or the Rescue Bots leave, Chief Burns reveals that they&#039;re not just robots, they&#039;re aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Chase (RB)|Chase]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blades (RB)|Blades]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Boulder]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Prime (RB)|Optimus Prime]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
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|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cody Burns]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Harrison (RB)|Mr Harrison]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Charlie Burns]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kade Burns]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dani Burns]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Graham Burns]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Frankie Greene]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Doc Greene]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Huxley Prescott]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
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}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;We need to remove the planters to create a fire block.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;But... I... That will destroy the harmonious nature of the plaza&#039;s design.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;What?!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Graham Burns&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Boulder&#039;&#039;&#039;, who fails at being a robot.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I don&#039;t know &#039;&#039;where&#039;&#039; you learned that... but no.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:-&#039;&#039;&#039;Cody Burns&#039;&#039;&#039; draws a line between dancing &amp;quot;the robot&amp;quot; and actually acting like a robot.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
* During the sequence in which Cody is attempting to teach everyone how to act like robots, Blades is seen doing the [[Wikipedia:Robot (dance)|Robot]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blast from the Past|Animatronic dinosaurs running amok?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: Rescue Bots episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Caswin</name></author>
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