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Talk:An Explosive Situation

2017-03-22T01:22:37Z

Combaticons4ever:

Just to clarify... was this episode ever reran in the United States after 9/11? I don't remember it being, for obvious reasons, but it could've been thrown back into one of the last rerun cycles which I didn't follow.--[[User:Speedbreaker|Speedbreaker]] 01:40, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I want to say it got new dubbing to make it superfuel not a bomb or something... Zobovor probably knows.
(I'm setting up shells of the first 7 episodes of the series, or one disk of the DVD.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I saw a redub at some point. It was only once, though, and so long ago. Sorry I can't give more details. -[[User:Animus|Animus]] 00:06, 03 December 2007

While on the note of tastelessness, anyone else notice that this episode is about '''nuclear bombs exploding over major cities in Japan'''? [[Special:Contributions/64.189.19.132|64.189.19.132]] 18:15, 12 October 2010 (EDT)
:Well it was initially written by Japanese for a Japanese audience so if they didn't mind, I don't see why we should get our boxer shorts in a knot. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:31, 12 October 2010 (EDT)

:Is the bomb specified as nuclear in ''Car Robots''? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:48, 12 October 2010 (EDT)
::A very powerful bomb that could do major damage to Tokyo, IIRC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:53, 12 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Well if the nuclear thing is a dub addition... it still doesn't matter, seeing how the dub takes place in the fictional, quite likely American town of "Metro City". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:57, 12 October 2010 (EDT)
::::It's not referred to as nuclear in RID. S'why I was wondering where the anon got "nuclear" from. I guess if it's powerful enough to cause major damage to the city, it's likely nuclear. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:02, 12 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::I'm wondering the "nuke" came from as well. I've read of explosions exceeding the ones used during WW2 in terms of sheer explosive force, even if they weren't bombs. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:11, 12 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::: Aforementioned anon here. Do you think a conventional bomb would make an explosion that big? I mean, bright enough to LIGHT UP THE SKY FROM THE STRATOSPHERE?! Only nukes have that kind of explosive power. [[Special:Contributions/64.189.19.132|64.189.19.132]] 02:55, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Do you think a regular truck would turn into a giant alien robot? You have to have some suspension of disbelief with Transformers. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:37, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::: Yeah, I remember seeing the "ghost Skybite" scene when i watched it when i was little (around 2001 or 2002). Mostly remember it because it confused the heck out of me lol. I'd really like to figure out when or where it was run in this form. [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] ([[User talk:Combaticons4ever|talk]]) 21:22, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
Also, we need a picture of X-brawn swinging from the buildings with the subtext "Spider-Brawn, Spider-Brawn..." [[Special:Contributions/64.189.19.132|64.189.19.132]] 02:55, 13 October 2010 (EDT)

Mainframe (G1)

2017-02-16T17:40:48Z

Combaticons4ever: I know it's kind of a nitpick, but for the time in which his bio was released, his storage space was actually pretty impressive. The first hard drive to even measure its capacity in GB (1.26 GB) had just been released 10 years earlier, for example.

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{{disambig3|Mainframe}}
:''Mainframe is an [[Autobot]] [[Action Master]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:Mainframe(G1) MTMTE.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Code Monkey like Fritos. Code Monkey like Tab and Mountain Dew. Code Monkey very simple man with big warm fuzzy secret heart: Code Monkey like you.]]
'''Mainframe''' is a dork. A computer dork, to be precise. (Both in that he is a computer that is a dork, and a dork about computers.) He'd rather tackle complex mathematical problems than join the [[Great War (G1)|inconvenient galactic conflict]] with the [[Decepticon]]s. Despite his distaste for combat, he won't shirk his duties when called upon. If anything, he hopes that if he simply ''must'' fight, that he'll have the chance to use his considerable brainpower to end things quickly.

Alas, his [[Action Master partner|partner]], [[Push-Button]], would rather convert to a piston rifle and blow stuff up than be stuck debugging Mainframe's programs. Naturally, the two don't especially get along.

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:Mainframe How to Say Goodbye and Mean it.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|[[Block coloring]]: Obscuring Transformers' identities since 1984.]]
At some point in history, [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] acquired footage of Mainframe. {{storylink|The Gloaming}}

Mainframe was one of the survivors of the [[Kimia Facility]] massacre. He got away aboard an escape pod piloted by [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] and [[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]]. {{storylink|Chaos Part Three: Kings|Kings}} The pod was picked up by [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], who told the survivors of [[D-Void]]'s plan to destroy the universe and brought them all to Cybertron to stop it. {{storylink|Chaos Part Four: Genesis|Genesis}}

When the ''[[Lost Light]]'' departed for unknown space to search for the [[Knights of Cybertron]], Mainframe was part of the bridge crew. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} He was present among the assembled Autobots after their tumble through quantum space as [[Hot Rod/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] addressed the troops. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}}

When crew member [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]] left on a stolen shuttle, Mainframe helped track it down. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} They followed Magnus to [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], where the ship was invaded by [[Tyrest (G1)|Chief Justice Tyrest]]'s [[Legislator]]s and the crew subdued. {{storylink|Remain in Light 3 of 5: The Divided Self|The Divided Self}} Having been [[Reproduction#IDW Generation 1 continuity|constructed cold]], Mainframe was among those nearly killed by Tyrest's [[universal killswitch]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

[[File:Mainframe magnus winners and losers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|"I'm a pilot, not a...wait, I'm a pilot?"]]
Mainframe piloted the ''Lost Light'' into the right position for launching Rodimus, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]], and others through a portal to the [[Dead Universe]]. {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}} In search for [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] he then navigated the ship to a [[Hydrophena|watery planet]] {{storylink|Winners & Losers: Dark Cybertron Chapter 3|Winners & Losers}} where they were attacked by a lot of [[Ammonite]]s. 2026<ref name="ammonites">The Ammonites' number was changed to 819 in the Hasbro exclusive cover variant of the issue available with the ''[[Transformers: Generations]]'' Deluxe Class [[Mini-Con Assault Team]].</ref> of them, according to Mainframe's estimation. {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}} After finding Metroplex, the crew used the Titan's [[space bridge]] to teleport him and the ''Lost Light'' back to Cybertron, where Mainframe lost control of the ship and crash-landed. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}} Cybertron was subsequently invaded by another army of Ammonites, forcing Mainframe to get the ship airborne and away from the attackers. {{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} His contribution to the battle was contacting [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] before the ''Lost Light'' rammed [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]], telling her to clean up the [[Pretender Monster|remains]] in a flowery, dramatic fashion too vague for her to understand. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}

[[File:Tailgate mainframe jackpot words hang in the air.jpg|thumb|left|upright=2]]
Once Cybertron was saved, Mainframe went for drinks in [[Swerve's]] where he was approached by [[Getaway]] and [[Atomizer]], who asked him here he would stand if they were to stage a coup against Rodimus. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}} He then continued to serve on the ''Lost Light'' as it returned to its journey with a new captain: a reformed [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} He helped a plastered [[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]] to the medbay, running into [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] on the way. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}

Mainframe was also a member of the crew on a quantum duplicate version of the ''Lost Light''. Then the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] showed up, and Mainframe [[Helex (DJD)|had his head torn off]]. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}} His corpse presumably vanished with the rest of his ''Lost Light'' when the main ''Lost Light'' crew shut down the duplicate ship's quantum engines. {{storylink|Slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}}

[[File:Mainframe births deaths and interventions.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|Look at my fingers! They're glorious!]]
While the ''Lost Light'' was disappearing piece by piece, Mainframe was seen evacuating the ship alongside Jackpot. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} After the ''Lost Light'' reappeared, Mainframe along with [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]], [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]], and [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailcutter]] landed on [[Ofsted XVII]] while awaiting further orders from Rodimus. Mainframe explained to Bluestreak who was curious that the planet was experiencing a lot of [[warp gate]]s appearing after a massive battle between [[Black Block Consortia]] and the [[Galactic Council]] with a few mechs over a ravaged ship in orbit. After First Aid called Bluestreak from a lecture theater, he and Mainframe went to meet up with him. They discovered a fatally wounded Cybertronian lying around in the wrecked room. Mainframe and Bluestreak decided to find out if the Cybertronian was an Autobot or Decepticon. After First Aid and Trailcutter returned with medical supplies, First Aid became furious with Mainframe and Bluestreak for moving the injured bot, giving him less time to live. Mainframe became unsure of donating some of his fuel when he mentioned the risks of donating too much energon. Next, Mainframe found a translator lying around and activated it. However, Bluestreak discovered the Cybertronian's face and discovered that with a switch on it, releasing spikes. Mainframe was now convinced that the injured bot wasn't an Autobot, and he and Bluestreak back out from donating their fuel and left the lecture theater. After the bot was revealed to the [[Vos (DJD)|Vos]], a member of the D.J.D. and attacked Trailcutter, First Aid went to go find Mainframe and Bluestreak to help. Mainframe was present when the three bots discovered that [[Kaon (DJD)|Kaon]] had murdered Trailcutter, and watched helplessly as Kaon crushed Trailcutter's brain module. {{storylink|Births, Deaths, and Interventions}} Afterwards, Mainframe and the others were nearly killed by the D.J.D. after they tried to blow up their shuttle and was soon rescued. {{storylink|The Custom-Made Now - An Elegant Chaos Prologue|The Custom-Made Now}}

Mainframe acted as shuttle pilot for Rodimus and the crew when they located the [[Censere|Necrobot]]'s port-of-call. In trying to decide whether to approach by stealth or storm, Mainframe found Rodimus's sarcasm and flippancy indecipherable, as do we all from time to time. {{storylink|The Not Knowing}}

[[File:HowBrightTheirFrailDeeds-LostLightmutiny.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Revenge of the Nerds]]

When certain members of the crew were psychically attacked, Mainframe and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] traced the source of the attack to an apparently unknown region of space. As Rodimus, Magnus, Megatron and the affected crewmembers prepared to leave in the [[Rodpod]] to investigate, Mainframe took the team's doctor [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]] aside and suggested that she should take [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] along as some extra muscle. However, the psychic attack was a ruse concocted by the ''Lost Light''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s crew to rid themselves of Megatron, Rodimus and their supporters once and for all and Mainframe stood alongside Getaway on the ship's bridge as he informed Rodimus that they were being stranded on the Necrobot's planet at the tender mercies of the Galactic Council. Unbeknownst to them though, the Decepticon Justice Division had beaten them there. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}}

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===''Classics''===
[[File:Invasion mainframe rad.jpg|thumb]]
Mainframe was overlooking the [[Construction station|Ironworks]] with [[Rad (G1)|Rad]] when [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] attacked the base with his squad of Decepticons. {{storylink|Invasion Prologue}} He argued with [[Rollout (G1)|Rollout]] while rebuilding Ironworks. When the [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]] attacked, he was captured and turned into one. {{storylink|Invasion (issue)|Invasion}}
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===IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics===
At the tail-end of the Great War, Mainframe was sent out to accompany [[Tigatron]] in an attempt to broker peace-talks between the Autobots and Decepticons, hoping to end the war without further carnage. Unfortunately, the first enemy camp they approached was headed by the renegade soldier [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], who sicced [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] on them. Mainframe fled before the gestalt could cut him down. {{storylink|Dawn of the Predacus}}

===''Of Masters and Mayhem''===
Mainframe was one of the many casualties of [[Toxitron (G1)|Toxitron]]'s attack on the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s launch facility. {{storylink|The Toxic Transformer}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[File:G1-toy Mainframe.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|It figures a computer dork would want a BFG.]]
*'''Mainframe''' (Action Master, [[1990]])
**''Accessories'': "Vibro Pulverizer" rifle, Push-Button partner

:As an [[Action Master]], Mainframe is a non-transforming action figure of a robot with an indeterminate [[alternate mode]], but chances are he turns into one of those huge computers you see in those movies from the 70s and 80s, you know, the ones the size of refrigerators with the reel-to-reel magnetic tape. He is compatible with any Action Master vehicle or weapon. He was part of the second assortment of basic carded figures, and came with his [[Action Master partner|partner]]-robot [[Push-Button]].

:Note that his weapon bears a strong resemblance to the machine guns from the [[G.I. Joe (team)|G. I. Joe]] [http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/89/arcticblast/ Arctic Blast] vehicle.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1990/Autobot/Mainframe/mainframe.htm More information on Mainframe at TFU.info]''
{{--}}

==Notes==
*Mainframe is inexplicably on the cover of the 1990 [[Family Home Entertainment]] VHS release of the "[[Five Faces of Darkness]]" mini-series... a cartoon produced about four years before Mainframe's toy was released.
*According to his tech specs, he is equipped to store 200,000 megabytes of data. Which is really impressive unless you have $100 to spend on a USB hard drive. That said, most hard drives at the time of his release could barely hold 1,000 MB, so it was really impressive back then.

===Foreign names===
*''French:'' '''Ordinateur''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Cronos'''

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Action Masters]]
[[Category:Classics Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Lost Light crew]]
[[Category:Scientists]]

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Combiner

2015-04-14T12:14:42Z

Combaticons4ever:

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Favorite Combiner Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#Pick your top three favorite ''Transformers'' COMBINERS, from any era. They must be the '''combined forms,''' not individual robots from combiner teams. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
##Individual character votes '''[[Transformers Wiki:TFWiki.net 2015 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Character|go here!]]'''
#Take your top three list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Monstructor, Tripredacus, Rail Racer--<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>

Poll entry period ends at 8am on '''[[April 20]]th, 2015'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 18:22, 13 April 2015 (EDT)

==Poll entries==

*Liokaiser, Magnaboss, Nexus Prime--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:24, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Computron, Predaking, Rail Racer --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:40, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Superion --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:50, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Superion--[[User:Zakor1138|Zakor1138]] ([[User talk:Zakor1138|talk]]) 19:00, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Computron, Liokaiser, Battle Gaia -- [[User:S-NFS|S-NFS]] ([[User talk:S-NFS|talk]]) 2:07, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
*Magnaboss, Nexus Prime, Tripredacus --[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:12, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Superion --[[User:ComeonandSLAM|ComeonandSLAM]] ([[User talk:ComeonandSLAM|talk]]) 19:29, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Big Rescue Force, Defensor, Mighty Robot --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:39, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Defensor, Menasor -- [[User:Kazenokasa|Kazenokasa]] ([[User talk:Kazenokasa|talk]]) 20:07, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
*Devastator, Menasor, Raiden -- [[User:Avalanche|Avalanche]] ([[User talk:Avalanche|talk]]) 21:33, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Menasor, Tripredacus -- [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] ([[User talk:Bobpiecheese|talk]]) 21:37, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Devastator, Superion -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 21:48, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Landcross, Liokaiser, Piranacon -- [[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] ([[User talk:Ookalf|talk]]) 23:06, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Rail Racer, Superion -- [[User:Raininshadows|Raininshadows]] ([[User talk:Raininshadows|talk]]) 00:32, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Magnaboss, Predaking -- [[User:LordTacos|LordTacos]] ([[User talk:LordTacos|talk]]) 00:46, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Landfill (RID), Liokaiser, Ruination (RID) --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:55, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Abominus, Piranacon, Rail Racer -- [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] ([[User talk:Arborday|talk]]) 01:03, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Abominus, Menasor, Ruination -- [[User:BT383|BT383]] ([[User talk:BT383|talk]]) 01:36, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Devastator, Rail Racer -- [[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 01:46, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Abominus, Dinoking, Predaking --[[User:Acidforblood|Acidforblood]] ([[User talk:Acidforblood|talk]]) 01:56, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Predaking, Superion -- [[User:StarWars_Jedi|StarWars_Jedi]] ([[User talk:StarWars_Jedi|talk]]) 08:57, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
* Bruticus, Computron, Superion--[[User:Karanseraph|Karanseraph]] ([[User talk:Karanseraph|talk]]) 02:47, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
*Devastator, Liokaiser, Predaking --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 03:07, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Monstructor, Safeguard (Animated) -- [[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] ([[User talk:BattleBlade|talk]]) 04:25, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Rail Racer, Ruination --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] ([[User talk:Apoc|talk]]) 05:25, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Devastator, Superion --[[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] ([[User talk:Diamondmatter|talk]]) 05:30, 14 April 2015 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Rail Racer, Ruination -- [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] ([[User talk:Combaticons4ever|talk]]) 08:14, 14 April 2015 (EDT)


[[Category: TFWiki.net]]

Lockdown (ROTF)

2015-01-30T23:54:25Z

Combaticons4ever:

{{faction|decepticonfilm}}
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{{disambig3|Lockdown}}
:''Lockdown is an unaligned Cybertronian mercenary, and is disgusted by, but sometimes aligned with the [[Decepticon]]s, from the [[Movie continuity|live-action movie continuity]].''
[[File:AOE Lockdown walks.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5||In 2007, we were all pretty sure there would be a fourth live-action ''Transformers'' movie with Lockdown as the main villain.]]

Even the Decepticons are afraid of ''this'' guy, because once '''Lockdown''' has been hired to track down a subject, nothing stops him from completing his transaction short of total deactivation! Answering only to his enigmatic "[[Creator (AOE)|Creators]]", Lockdown holds himself above the Autobot/Decepticon war and sees both sides as squabbling children that he has to reign in personally. He doesn't think much higher of other civilized species across the galaxy (particularly humans), though isn't above working with them if it suits him.

Unfortunately for the [[Autobot]] medic, [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] is Lockdown's next target, and Lockdown, as always, has been paid handsomely for his destruction. He's also run afoul of [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] previously, in some unspecified circumstance.<ref>Hasbro's website describes both Arcee and Ratchet as Lockdown's enemy on their respective pages, mirroring their relationship in ''Animated''.</ref>

Lockdown is a bounty hunter from heart. He always fulfills the contracts and missions he is assigned to as long as he is paid. He doesn't really care what he has to do in order to fulfill his contract, eager to destroy entire planets if it's necessary. His respect for other species is not too great either, sometimes mumbling about his own clients and speaking to them sarcastically. Lockdown's been known to loot weaponry from the foes he kills, so his armoury is constantly changing!<ref>[[Transformers Comic issue 5.1]] bio: "The Lockdown on Lockdown" The spare parts is an ''Animated'' trait that was added in.</ref>

He trained [[Axor]] a long time ago, and the younger hunter has even ''rebuilt himself'' to better resemble Lockdown (though he denies it if you ask). He views his mentor as his closest comrade, which Lockdown has been willing to let him believe.<ref>Axor's [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=841165f8-19b9-f369-1057-0b57c1e069b6 Battle Bio]</ref> ''His'' closest comrade is Megatron, cos that's who's currently paying him, in [[energon star|energon chips]]!<ref name="BB"/>

These days, a long scar runs down his face. There are many rumours about where it came from, some saying it was a run-in with Megatron, but nobody knows for sure...<ref>[[Transformers Comic issue 5.1]] bio: "The Lockdown on Lockdown"</ref>

{{quote|Autobots, Decepticons, like little children. Always fighting, making a mess out of the universe. Then ''I've'' got to clean it up.|Lockdown|[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|''Age of Extinction'']]}}

==Fiction==
===Cyber Missions===
{{voiceactor|[[Bronco D. Jackson]] (English)|[[Juan Carlos Tinoco]] (Latin American-Spanish)}}
[[File:CyberMissions3-Lockdown.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.67|Lockdown is bad at missions that involve cyber because he only has one hand.]]

{{quote|Science will not win this war!|Says the transforming giant robot|[[Cyber Missions 3|''Cyber Missions'' #3]]}}

Lockdown was cruising the city streets when he was encountered by [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], who had been alerted to Lockdown's presence by [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] due to their "violent history". For blocks, Lockdown fled Ratchet silently as the Autobot fired his [[EMP]] blaster until he transformed into robot mode and expressed his frustration. Finally, when Ratchet's EMP blaster failed him, Lockdown transformed as well. He mocked Ratchet for never being able to best him, knocked him around, and when the Autobot had had enough, the Decepticon bounty hunter stole Ratchet's EMP blaster as a memento. As Lockdown sped away, he wondered if he could fix Ratchet's faulty weapon. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 3|Cyber Missions #3}}

Later, Lockdown managed to evade [[Diego Garcia]]'s security measures and sneak into Autobot Headquarters undetected. After cutting power to the facilities, he snuck up behind [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] in the target practice range. Ratchet's EMP blaster, attached to Lockdown's arm, was now in proper working order, and the bounty hunter vowed to also take Sideswipe's new sidearms. Lockdown was shocked when the EMP blaster was shot off his arm and out of his reach by Ratchet. Wounded, the Decepticon fled. Unfortunately for Lockdown, he retreated to the medical bay, where Ratchet's surgical tools restrained and sedated him. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 7|Cyber Missions #7}}

Later, Lockdown and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] confronted [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]. Looking to steal one of Ironhide's weapons, Lockdown took a missile instead, which blew up in his face. The explosion damaged his optics, so he fled. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 11|Cyber Missions #11}}
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===Titan Comics ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===

Lockdown had been captured by [[NEST]] under unknown circumstances... only to become part of [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|Bludgeon's]] jailbreak! He joined Bludgeon's splinter cell of Decepticons and took great pleasure in talking out all his "hurting" on [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.13|Inside Out!}}

When the Autobots tracked down the Decepticon base in [[Russia]], Lockdown was ordered to prepare an ambush for them. He loyally served Bludgeon in this until Megatron arrived {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.20|Divided Loyalties}}, and then he not-so-loyally ran away. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.21|A Short, Sharp Lesson!}}

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===IDW Publishing ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
[[File:Nefarious 5 lockdown.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|Is that you, Lockdown?]]
A partly-green robot with a hook in place of his right hand was among the Transformers captured by the [[Initiative]] and mind-controlled into doing their bidding. When Optimus Prime and the Autobots assaulted the Initiative's mobile headquarters, the brainwashed Lockdown, [[Thrust (ROTF)|Thrust]] and another Transformer battled [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]], [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]] and [[Knock Out (ROTF)|Knock Out]]. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 5|Nefarious #5}} They were eventually subdued. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 6|Nefarious #6}}
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===''Unite for the Universe''===
Lockdown was part of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]'s small group who planned to apply [[Project Unite|Project: Unite]] to Decepticons. After reporting to Starscream that [[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]] had found that some Autobots were approaching their base in [[Greece]], he moved out to attack them and cut down [[Breacher]]. His victory was short-lived, though, as he was swiftly defeated and captured by [[Sea Spray]] and [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]. {{storylink|Unite for the Universe issue 2|Bludgeon's Revenge}}

===''How to Ride your Dinobot'' cartoon===

Lockdown found himself cornered by the duo of [[Slug (AOE)|Slug]] and [[Drift (ROTF)|Drift]], but to the bounty hunter's luck, Drift was an inexperienced Dinobot rider indeed. Lockdown impatiently waited for Drift to get his act together and attack him already, but to Lockdown's amusement, Drift fried himself with Slug's weaponry. However, it turned out to be a bad day for all, since Lockdown got zapped too.

One must wonder why Lockdown didn't flee while Drift spent a long time trying to figure out Slug's weaponry... {{storylink|How to Ride Your Dinobot Chapter 3: How to Fight|How to Fight}}

===Titan Comics ''Age of Extinction'' comics===

[[File:Titan AOE Drif's crew.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|In the grim darkness of the recent past, there is only war!]]

Five years before the Battle of [[Chicago]],<ref>''Dark of the Moon'' has no explicit date but as Sam has graduated, it's set in 2012 at the earliest</ref> Lockdown was part of a three-Con team with [[Drift (ROTF)|Drift]] and [[Knucklehead]] on Cybertron. While Drift wanted to take an Autobot outpost with minimal bloodshed, Lockdown thought this was sissy hippy crap and they should just bomb everything (even though that would mean having no outpost to capture); when they sneaked instead, he disobeyed orders and decided to execute prisoners out of hand. Drift stopped him, giving a gleeful Lockdown the chance to claim the guy was a traitor and kill him off. Knucklehead and Drift sent him down into a molten moat, swearing revenge on them both. Of course, he couldn't actually kill them when Megatron was still in charge or the big boss would be unhappy.

As we saw further up the page, Lockdown had come to Earth and in 2011 he fell in with Megatron again. Soon after the big boss was killed at Chicago and Lockdown immediately murdered Knucklehead. Drift, now an Autobot, would find the corpse on the moon and knew the hunter had become more powerful than before. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 5.1|Adrift in Time and Space}}

{{note|You, the reader, are probably just now thinking "wait, Megatron wasn't in charge five years before DOTM because he was frozen". Uh, I guess Lockdown didn't know that...?}}

Lockdown took control of the remaining Decepticon forces but kept himself out of the limelight. He oversaw an ambush in [[Indonesia]]: three Decepticons would kill a few hundred humans, getting the predictable Autobots to give chase and be ambushed at an old [[Netherlands|Dutch]] fort. He watched as [[Crosshairs (AOE)|Crosshairs]] didn’t rush in head on and wiped out his team, but the Autobots remained unaware he was around so ''he'' was alright! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 5.2|Thousand Island Flight}}

{{Charstubfiction}} {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 5.4|Locked In!}}

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===''Age of Extinction'' film===
{{voiceactor|[[Mark Ryan]] (English), [[Tsutomu Isobe]] (Japanese)|[[Carlos Segundo]] (Latin American Spanish)}}
{{quote|We all work for someone.|Lockdown to Optimus}}
[[File:Aoe-lockdown-hook.jpg|thumb|upright=1.95|I have a [[Lockdown (Animated)|hook]] now, happy?]]

Tasked by the mysterious [[Creator (AOE)|Creators]] with the capture and return of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], Lockdown travelled to [[Earth]] and joined forces with the human organization [[Cemetery Wind]], who were in the process of hunting and killing any surviving Cybertronians who had survived the battle of [[Chicago]]. In exchange for the safe apprehension of Prime, he promised [[Harold Attinger]] a [[Seed]], a device that could cyberform a massive area of land. Several years after the Battle of Chicago, Lockdown and Cemetery Wind located Optimus Prime in [[Mexico City]] and attacked; though Lockdown was able to grievously wound Prime, the human operatives failed to contain Prime, and he escaped and went into hiding.

Continuing to work with Cemetery Wind, Lockdown aided in the pursuit of [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], lurking in nearby waters and disabling the Autobot medic from afar with his head-cannon after the humans had crippled him. When Ratchet refused to divulge Optimus's location, Lockdown ripped his [[spark]] from his chest. Soon after, he met with Attinger on the hull of his [[Knight Ship|ship]] to discuss their arrangements, where the bounty hunter expressed his disgust with [[human]]s and mused that none of the species he had worked with in his travels had really understood their place in the universe.

An anonymous tip from a [[Lucas Flannery|panicked civilian]] allowed Cemetery Wind to locate Optimus in at the home of [[Cade Yeager]] in [[Texas]]. Lockdown pulled up to a nearby baseball field and transformed, deploying his hook to clamber up a nearby grain silo. When Optimus revealed himself and began fighting back against Cemetery Wind's human operatives, Lockdown bombarded the Yeager homestead with a flurry of missiles, destroying it. Lockdown later pursued Prime across the highway, and eventually engaged Prime in battle on the roof of an abandoned factory. Prime managed to momentarily disable Lockdown by tossing him into a crane cable, allowing the Autobot leader to escape once again with his human allies; Lockdown freed himself in time to try and stop them with a grenade, but the only victim of its blast was [[Lucas Flannery]].

[[File:Lockdown gun face.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|GIVE ME YOUR]]- Err.. face-gun!]]

Later, after the Autobots stormed [[Kinetic Solutions Incorporated|KSI]], Optimus was battling [[Galvatron (AOE)|Galvatron]] when Lockdown ambushed Prime and took him and [[Tessa Yeager]] captive. After moving his ship over Chicago to deliver the promised Seed to Cemetery Wind, Lockdown locked Prime up with the other [[Dinobot (AOE)|Knights]] that he had captured, explaining to the defeated Autobot the origins of his ship and why the Creators wanted him. Unbeknownst to Lockdown, the other Autobots and humans had already boarded his ship in order to free Prime and Tessa; when [[Crosshairs (AOE)|Crosshairs]] fired the ship's anchors in order to prevent it from taking off, the bounty hunter merely assumed one of his prisoners had broken free, and dispatched a pack of [[Steeljaw (AOE)|Steeljaws]] to deal with the problem. The beasts detached the anchors, and Lockdown took off into space, unaware that the Autobots had rescued Prime and stolen the section of his ship containing his prize trophy case.

[[File:LockdownDeath.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Half the hunter he used to be.]]
Discovering the truth part-way into his journey, the furious Lockdown ordered a return to Earth. Arriving in the midst of a battle between the Autobots and KSI drones in [[Hong Kong]], Lockdown utilized a magnetic weapon on his ship to wreak havoc on the city, but it was soon destroyed by Optimus. Lockdown descended to Hong Kong to battle him in person, leading to a vicious fight that saw Lockdown take the upper hand after Optimus diverted his attention save Cade Yeager from Attinger. Lockdown impaled Prime on his own [[sword]], mocking him for his choice to save the human, but before the bounty hunter could finish him, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]], Cade, Tessa and [[Shane Dyson]] all teamed up against him. Lockdown was able to dispatch Bumblebee, and then turned on Cade, but failed to notice that Shane and Tessa had freed Optimus. Optimus slew Lockdown by brutally bisecting him with his sword, and destroyed what remained on his body when he used one of Lockdown's grenades to finish of the remaining KSI drones.

And we thought Lockdown always fulfilled his contracts.
{{storylink|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction}}

===''Q-Transformers'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Tatsuhisa Suzuki]] (Japanese)}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Joey Camen]]
[[File:DOTMDS Lockdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
On [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s orders as relayed by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], Lockdown broke into a [[NEST]] facility and stole information from the super-computer relating to NEST operations in the Pacific. When he had finished basking in his victory, he sent the data to Starscream, who ordered Lockdown to investigate a reactivated [[Sector Seven|Sector 7]] base, and the Decepticon ended up tangling with [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]]. He was later called on again to provide a diversion by destroying communication arrays in an Autobot base as part of Megatron's plan to reactivate [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons}}

===''Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark''===
{{voiceactor|[[Gregg Berger]]}}

Some time during his stay on Earth, Lockdown tracked down the [[Dark Spark]] as it made its way toward the planet. The Autobots realized the destruction the relic could cause and moved to retrieve it, only to be stopped by the bounty hunter. Intercepting the Autobots, Lockdown grabbed the Dark Spark first and took it for himself. Despite Optimus Prime's pleas, Lockdown was more interested in the profit he could make from its power. As Prime attempted to tackle Lockdown and take the artifact, Lockdown activated its power and froze the Autobots in place long enough to escape.

Later, the Autobots attempted to infiltrate Lockdown's base but were unsuccessful. Drift was captured while Bumblebee escaped, but only long enough to find an alternate path to retrieve his colleague. Lockdown sent a titan after them to prevent their escape, but the Autobots were able to slip out and regroup.

Finally breaking into Lockdown's base, they discovered he had been using the power of the Dark Spark to create a time bridge to go back in time and prevent the Autobot's victory at the Battle of Chicago. In doing so, he would revive the war and with it his main source of income. Optimus once again pleaded to rethink, citing the destruction that Earth would have to endure if the war were to continue, but as usual Lockdown didn't care. Optimus once again tried to tackle Lockdown, who activated the Dark Spark's power again to stop him in mid-air. In true super villain fashion, Lockdown monologued his plan rather than do something about Prime, who was able to break free of the Dark Spark's power. The two fought to a standstill until Drift was able to move in and cut the Dark Spark from Lockdown's chest. Fumbling to catch it, Lockdown instead knocked it into Drift's hand long enough for Optimus to activate the Matrix of Leadership and blast it into the time bridge. Lockdown took the opportunity to escape, swearing that "this isn't the end". {{Storylink|Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark}}

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==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
[[File:ROTF deluxe Lockdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|[[Lockdown (Animated)|Almost identical]].]]
* '''Lockdown''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-26'''
**''Accessories'': Engine

:Lockdown's design strongly homages his [[Lockdown (Animated)|''Transformers Animated'' counterpart]], but with a completely different transformation. Once again, Lockdown transforms into an amalgam of a 1980s Corvette and a 1960s Cougar, with lots of spikes and a cow-catcher on his bumper. The toy's [[Mech Alive]] feature rotates cylinders inside his thighs as his lower legs rotate, and pneumatic cylinders extend as his [[Capture Hook]] is deployed.

:Lockdown may have the most articulated neck ever for a Transformer, having three ball joints and a swivel joint. Craziness.

:Similar to his ''Animated'' counterpart, Lockdown's arm-mounted hot rod engine weapon can be removed and can be replaced by ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]'s weapon. Likewise, Ratchet can store Lockdown's engine on his roof; it cannot, however, attach to his arm. Interestingly, the plug for Lockdown's engine is the same general shape as the plug for ''Animated'' Lockdown's EMP blaster/engine, but smaller; as such, it isn't compatible with ''Animated'' Lockdown, or with ''Animated'' [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] or [[Ironhide (Animated)|Ironhide]], for that matter.

:This mold was retooled to make [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010]] [[Axor]] as well as [[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]] [[Circuit (Movie)|Circuit]]. This toy was [[repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Lockdown (G1)|Lockdown]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/Lockdown/lockdown.htm More information on Lockdown at TFU.info]''

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===Age of Extinction===
====Generations====
[[File:Aoe-deluxe-lockdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Finally a real gun-face, but no hook?]]
[[File:Lost Age AD-26 Lockdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|I'm a Japanese release and I still don't have a hook. What is wrong with you humans?]]
*'''Lockdown''' (Deluxe, 2014)
**''Japanese ID Number'': '''AD-26'''
**''Accessories'': Face-gun
:A new mold, Lockdown transforms into an officially licensed (in fact, the only licensed toy of Lockdown) Lamborghini Aventador, and is decently articulated in robot mode, with only the waist lacking articulation. He comes with a missile-firing blaster that can either be held using his hands (via 5mm posts), or attached to his head (via a peg on the gun) to simulate his "face-gun" from the ''Age of Extinction'' film. The blaster can also peg onto the top of his vehicle mode via two additional pegs. His transformation shares similarities to Deluxe [[Roadbuster (DOTM)|Roadbuster]]'s.

:The Takara ''[[Movie Advanced Series]]'' version of the figure replaces much of the robot mode's grey plastic with black, creating a more movie-accurate appearance.

: Amusingly, both of his toys from Hasbro and Takara are both mis-transformed. The Hasbro version has his shoulder cannons not properly transformed and his part of his right side of his body mis-transformed while the Takara has his legs not properly transformed however this gives him a much taller and less bulky look.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2014/Decepticon/Lockdown/lockdown.htm More information on ''Age of Extinction'' Deluxe Lockdown at TFU.info]''
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====Robots in Disguise====
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[[File:AoE flip and change Lockdown.jpg|upright=1.95|thumb|Having an adequate Leader-sized Lockdown comes at the cost of having a messed up Lambo.]]
*'''Lockdown''' (Flip & Change, 2014)

:Part of the second wave of Flip & Change assortment, Lockdown is a simplified toy that can auto-transform by flipping the figure over itself.

:He shares the same transformation scheme with his fellow Flip & Changers Bumblebee and Drift.

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[[File:Aoe-one-step-changers-lockdown.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Desgined-to-be-broken-in-1-step Lockdown isn't he?]]
*'''Lockdown''' (One Step Changers, 2014)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''LA09'''

:Similar to an Activators toy, Lockdown can transform into a robot by pressing a button on his vehicle mode. This version of him does ''not'' have a licensed Lamborghini Aventador car mode (No licensing information is printed on his packaging, nor does the car have a Lamborghini symbol). Oddly enough, Lockdown's entire back is sculpted with great detail, despite this not being visible without taking the toy part.

:The Japanese release of Lockdown does away with the blue paint on his robot mode and car rear, and features black and metallic blue paint detail on his robot parts.

:Like many other [[Stinger_(AOE)#Robots_in_Disguise|spring loaded]] [[Crosshairs_(AOE)#Robots_in_Disguise|One-Steps]], This figure frequently recieved complaints about the spring breaking very easily, sometimes breaking immediatly after transforming it... ONCE!. This resulted in a [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|very negative and bad]] reaction from many who bought him.

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[[File:AoE Power Battler Lockdown.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Gun-shoulders.]]
*'''Lockdown''' (Power Battlers, 2014)
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*'''Lockdown''' (Titan Heroes, 2014)
:Titan Heroes Lockdown is an extremely simplified 12-inch tall action figures with a mere five points of articulation meant for younger audiences.
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====Kre-O====
:*''See: '''[[Lockdown (Kre-O)]]'''''

====Construct-Bots====
:*''See: '''[[Lockdown (CB)]]'''''

==Merchandise==
===Robot Powered Machines===
[[File:RPMMetalHeroesLockdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|It's a lockdown, baby, you drive me crazy.]]
*'''Lockdown''' (2010)
**''Series'': '''Metal Heroes'''
**''Number'': '''08'''

:''[[Robot Powered Machines]]'' Mini-Vehicle Lockdown is a small, non-transforming, [[die-cast]] rendition of his vehicle mode. His robot mode is sculpted underneath the vehicle, and his wheels use through-axle construction that lets the toy zip around at high speeds on smooth surfaces.

:The intended ''RPM'' release of "Metal Heroes" Lockdown never came out. Though it eventually saw release in ''Speed Stars'', the ''RPM'' version had more paint operations, featuring a painted cowcatcher, engine and roof spikes. While only "Stunticon" Lockdown was officially listed during the run of the ''RPM'' series (on the back of the Asian market release of ''RPM'' "Stunticon" [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]), images of the two were revealed by a downloadable poster on the official ''Transformers'' website of Turkey.

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[[File:RPMStunticonLockdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2FDPgvm2l0&feature=kp Lock me up and throw away the key.]]]
*'''Lockdown''' (2010)
**''Series'': '''Stunticon'''
**''Number'': '''03'''

:"Stunticon" Lockdown was to have been a redeco of "Metal Heroes" Lockdown in black, purple and red. While "Stunticon" Lockdown was officially listed during the run of the ''RPM'' series (on the back of the Asian market release of ''RPM'' "Stunticon" [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]), the only image of it was revealed by a downloadable poster on the official ''Transformers'' website of Turkey.

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===Speed Stars===
[[File:SpeedStars MetalHeroes Lockdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|He needs the bounty money to complete his dream of a solid gold butt tattoo.]]
[[File:MetalHeroesLockdownPoster.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Pimp my Bounty Hunter.]]
*'''Lockdown''' (2010)
**''Series'': '''Metal Heroes'''
**''Number'': '''08'''

:''[[Speed Stars]]'' Lockdown is a small, non-transforming, [[die-cast]] rendition of his vehicle mode. His robot mode is sculpted underneath the vehicle, and his wheels use through-axle construction that lets the toy zip around at high speeds on smooth surfaces.

:When shown at [[BotCon 2010]], Lockdown had a completely different color scheme, being predominantly gold with blue flames on his hood, green hubcaps, a red engine, and a gray bumper and spoiler. Though this version of "Metal Heroes" Lockdown was also depicted on a downloadable poster on the ''Speed Stars'' website, the toy was eventually released using Lockdown's proper colors.

:This mold was also used to make ''Speed Stars'' Stunticon Series [[Axel]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/SpeedStarsLockdown/lockdown.htm More information on ''Speed Stars'' Lockdown at TFU.info]''

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*'''Lockdown''' (2011?)
**''Series'': '''Stunticon'''
**''Number'': '''03'''

:"Stunticon" Lockdown is a redeco of his previous ''Speed Stars'' toy in black, purple and red - or ''was'' back when the line was ''Robot Powered Machines'' (see above). Though Lockdown is listed on the back of ''Speed Stars'' Stunticon [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]'s packaging, a Lockdown redeco named Axor was shown as part of the Stunticon series at [[BotCon 2010]] (who was in turn named as Axel on the ''Speed Stars'' website). Given there were a few wholesale deco changes between ''RPMs'' and ''Speed Stars'' within series, it's possible that Lockdown's place in the Stunticons was taken by Axor/Axel... but considering that ALL of these items seem to be canceled, it's impossible to say for certain.

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===Dark of the Moon===
====Speed Stars====
[[File:DOTMNintendoDSDecepticonsLockdown.jpg|thumb]]
*'''Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Decepticons''' (2011)

:An original redeco of the ''RPM''/''Speed Stars'' Lockdown mold was included as a free pack-in with certain editions of the ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon: Autobots/Decepticons|Dark of the Moon: Decepticons]]'' Nintendo DS video game.

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[[File:DOTMSpeedStarsBeastMachinesLockdown.jpg|thumb]]
*'''Lockdown''' (2011)
**''Series'': '''Beast Machines'''
**''Number'': '''03 of 03'''

:"Beast Machines" Lockdown is a redeco of the ''Speed Stars'' Lockdown mold in light grey and green with silver, snake-themed markings.

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===Age of Extinction===
====Cheetos stickers====
{{Charstubtoys}}

==Notes==
* The head on ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Lockdown's instruction lineart is actually that of his retool, [[Axor]]. The head can be seen in much clearer detail on page 8 of the [[San Diego Comic-Con]] [[Hasbro Design Sketchbook]], volume 2.
* Much like his namesake, Lockdown goes from having a [[size changing|relatively Deluxe-sized vehicle mode to a towering, Leader-sized robot mode]].
* In an even bigger reference to his ''[[Lockdown (Animated)|Animated]]'' counterpart, Lockdown's ''AOE'' incarnation has the ability to transform his hands into various weapons, such as the famous hook, a blaster, a spark extractor device, and even his chainsaw-hand. He can also turn his head into a sniper rifle-esque cannon, lending credence to the fact that he's probably been building on himself like his original incarnation. Some concept art also showed him characteristically taking and equipping Ratchet's saw after he had terminated the Autobot.
* Early concept art for Lockdown indicates that at one point he would have hewed closer to his original ''Animated'' design; not only would he have sported a green-and-black color scheme and a tattered "poncho",<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/attach/1/10492031_823531154338867_8013560203166570203_n_1404766373.jpg Concept art for Lockdown's robot mode</ref> he would also have transformed into a weatherbeaten muscle car with an exposed engine block.<ref>http://www.flickr.com/photos/69016045@N00/14607949853/ Concept art for Lockdown's vehicle mode</ref> Presumably, his alternate mode and design were altered so that Lamborghini could [[To sell toys|advertise their new sports cars]].
*In AOE, his face appears to be based on the Quintession faction symbol.
===Foreign names===
*''Hungarian:'' '''Vesztegzár''' ("Quarantine")

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Age of Extinction Decepticons]]
[[Category:Bounty hunters]]
[[Category:Cyber Missions characters]]
[[Category:Dark of the Moon Decepticons]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Decepticons]]

Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs.

2014-12-10T15:09:37Z

Combaticons4ever: Grammar and spelling corrections

{{Comicstory|
|series=exrid|issueno=36
|prev=Onyx Interface Part One: Signals, Calls, and Marches
|next=Onyx Interface Part Three
|caption=
|image=TF36 regcvr.jpg
|title="Onyx Interface Part Two: Vs."
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[December 10]], [[2014]]
|coverdate=December 2014
|written by=[[John Barber]]
|art by=[[Andrew Griffith]] (pgs 5-9, 12-19) & [[Brendan Cahill]] (pgs 1-4, 10-11, 20-22)
|colors by=[[Josh Perez]] & [[Joana Lafuente]]
|letters by=[[Tom B. Long]]
|editor=[[Carlos Guzman]]
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]
|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era (2014)]]
}}

'''Prowl and the Constructicons make their move to capture Spike, but Galvatron and the Decepticons have had the same idea.'''

==Synopsis==

Somewhere on [[Earth]], deep in a wooded region, [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] reads an excerpt from his latest screenplay to [[Buster (IDW)|Buster]]. Shortly, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] arrives in response to an invitation from Thundercracker and, confused by the presence of the dog, offers to "silence" it for Thundercracker, which does not get their talk off to the best of starts. Soundwave explains the [[Decepticon]]s' partnership with the [[Earth Defense Command]] and invites Thundercracker to join them on the [[Jupiter commune]]; realizing that his intentions are genuine, Thundercracker promises to consider the offer, and gives Soundwave a copy of his script as a parting gift. Before each goes their own way, Soundwave warns Thundercracker that while their new home will be all-inclusive, anyone who allies with a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] will be considered an enemy.

In the [[Shinjuku]] district of [[Tokyo]], [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] and [[Jimmy Pink]] meet with [[Maki]], their inside source at the [[Onyx]] corporation. Spike rants about the Transformers' long history of interaction with Earth, and although Maki doesn't really buy into everything he says, it doesn't dissuade her from providing him with a key card to Onyx's [[Wanmu]], [[China]] facility so that he can obtain a mysterious Cybertronian object within. As the two men head out, however, Spike immediately identifies the transformed [[Constructicon (G1)|Construticons]] and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] staking them out, and opens fire. The two flee through a pachinko parlor, but Prowl is relentless in his pursuit, crashing through the building.

''Six hours earlier, on the ''[[Ark-7]]'', Prowl and the Constructicons gather aboard a reluctant [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] as they prepare to head down to Earth's surface. Prowl makes clear that although they all have history with Spike, that is ''not'' the reason they are going after him: rather, Prowl believes Spike knows something about the connection between Onyx and the [[Earth Defense Command]], and the [[Enigma of Combination]]'s presence on Earth, and has tracked his location via e-mails his [[Sparkplug Witwicky|father]] had been sending him. Sky Lynx takes off for Tokyo, but their departure is observed by [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]; Sideswipe tries to raise the subject of the pair's falling out after their exodus from [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], but Arcee merely demands that he hand over his jetpack so she can follow Prowl's team.''

Prowl and the Constructicons continue their pursuit through the streets of Shinjuku, but just before he can grab Spike, Prowl is tackled by the airborne Arcee. Breaking her grip and resuming the hunt, Prowl entreats the female [[Autobot]] to trust him like she used to, but Arcee is having none of it and joins the chase herself. Spike and Jimmy, meanwhile, have found some transportation in the form of two idling motorbikes, but as they try to escape on the vehicles, the bikes take on a life of their own and drive the two humans to the top of a parking garage, where [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] and the Decepticons are waiting! The bikes are, in fact, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], who transform and hold the humans so Galvatron can interrogate them regarding the Enigma. Neither has any idea what Galvatron is talking about, but the Decepticon leader doesn't believe them, and orders Spike taken to their ship and Jimmy killed. Before the Decepticons can make any moves, though, the Constructicons collapse the garage underneath them. Prowl snatches up and Spike and flees the scene, leaving Arcee and Jimmy caught between the Decepticons and the Constructicons.

Aboard their aircraft as it departs Tokyo, [[Marissa Faireborn]] and EDC agent [[Jones]] argue over their non-intervention in the Transformer conflict breaking out in the city. Much to Jones's chagrin, Faireborn is focused on their current task—protecting [[G.B. Blackrock|Garrison Blackrock]], also on board—and instead orders up some ground troops to respond to the situation. Blackrock drolly remarks on the situation, and an irate Faireborn warns him not to comment on matters he does not understand; Blackrock appears to go off on a tangent, talking about the ancient Mesopotamian city of [[Uruk (Earth)|Uruk]], birthplace of human society, but soon reveals that he knows ''much'' more than he lets on, as he reveals that Uruk was built around the landing site of the Enigma of Combination... which is now held in the vault of his Wanmu facility!

Taking cover in a wood to evade police choppers, Prowl releases Spike, and informs him he has something very important to tell him... he ''forgives'' him!

==Featured characters==
{{Featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]] (9)
*[[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] (14)
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] (16)
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (17)

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*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (1)
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (3)
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] (18)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (20)
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (21)
*[[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] (22)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (23)
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] (24)

|c3=
*[[Jimmy Pink]] (6)
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (7)
*[[Maki]] (8)
*[[Hunter O'Nion]] (picture, 10)
*[[Verity Carlo]] (picture, 11)
*[[Jones]] (25)
*[[Marissa Faireborn]] (26)
*[[G.B. Blackrock|Garrison Blackrock]] (27)

|c4=
*[[Buster (IDW)|Buster]] (2)
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] (4)
*[[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (5)
*[[Hook (G1)|Hook]] (12)
*[[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]] (13)
*[[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] (15)
*[[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]] (19)

}}

==Quotes==

"In person, this sounds a lot more..." 
"Urgent." 
"No, a lot more like you should have a '''tin-foil hat.'''"
:—'''Spike''' and '''Maki'''

"Hey. I don't give my number to just '''any''' girl." 
"You literally give your number to '''every girl.'''"
:—'''Spike''' and '''Jimmy'''

"Things used to go smoother when I just '''shot''' everybody."
:—'''Arcee'''

"Hey—''ahem''—'''hey, there.''' I couldn't help but notice you're '''pink'''. Well, as it happens, my '''name''' is—" 
"'''Shut it''', human."
:—'''Jimmy''' tries to make small talk with '''Arcee'''

"You know, Miss Faireborn, I expected you to send '''agents''' after Witwicky... I just didn't expect the agents to be '''ten meters tall''' and '''metal.'''" 
"Yes, very '''droll''', Blackrock. You play with fire, and sometimes the fire changes into a '''robot.'''"
:—'''Blackrock''' and '''Marissa Faireborn'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*While listing off Cybertronian involvement in Earth's history, Spike mentions an alteration of Earth's geology that took place 10,000 years ago. He's referring to [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s implantation of global dampers into the planet's crust, as seen in ''[[Spotlight: Shockwave]]'', which allowed [[Ore-13]] to form there.
*Spike also mentions six Transformers being entombed by a volcanic eruption—Shockwave and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], as seen in, again, ''Spotlight: Shockwave''.
*Additionally, Spike describes a Cybertronian arrival on Earth 6,000 years ago; that one's a mystery for now.
*Spike's womanizing ways were often seen during the [[The Transformers (IDW)|2009-2011 ongoing series]].
*Arcee and Sideswipe's falling out took place back in [[Second Exodus|issue #18]].
*Prowl calls Long Haul "Scrapper"; this is the ''second'' time he's called another Constructicon by their deceased leader's name, having done the same to Scavenger in [[Earthfall Chapter 5: I Dream of Wires|issue #32]].
*Frenzy recalls Rumble's injuries at the hands of humans from [[All Hail Megatron issue 9|''All Hail Megatron'' #9]].

===Transformers references===
*Likely not a deliberate reference, but Sky Lynx recalls the planet [[Cygnus Alpha]]; this would be the second planet to orbit the star Cygnus mentioned in Transformers fiction, the previous being [[Cygnus Seven]], seen in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] episode "[[The Big Broadcast of 2006 (episode)|The Big Broadcast of 2006]]".

===Real-life references===
*Jimmy describes himself as Spike's "{{w|Andy Richter}}", referring to the comedian's status as perennial sidekick to {{w|Conan O'Brien}}.
*{{w|Uruk}} (see errors, below) is a real city; it was one of the first cities in recorded human history, and lends its name to the period of history that denotes the emergence of urban civilization.

===Errors===
*On the "previously" recap page, the Earth Defense Command is mis-named the Earth Defense ''Corps''.
*Uruk is misspelled as "Urik". Further, Blackrock notes that it was founded 4,000 years ago; rather, it was founded around 4,000 ''BC'', making it 6,000 years old.

===Covers (3)===
*'''Regular cover:''' The image of Marissa Faireborn is superimposed over a scene of Prowl pursuing Spike and Jimmy on Rumble and Frenzy, by [[Andrew Griffith]] and [[Josh Perez]]
*'''Subscription cover:''' Prowl prepares to stomp on Spike, by [[Casey Coller]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
*'''30th Anniversary cover:''' The first in December's series of three 30th Anniversary covers by [[Alex Milne]] and Josh Perez, featuring a cross-continuity mash-up including [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW Ultra Magnus]], [[Lockdown (Animated)|''Animated'' Lockdown]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Generation 1 Grimlock]], [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]], [[Jazz (WFC)|''War for Cybertron'' Jazz]], [[Waspinator (BW)|''Beast Wars'' Waspinator]], [[Bumblebee (WFC)|''Prime'' Bumblebee]], [[Arcee (G1)|IDW Arcee]], [[Airachnid (Prime)|''Prime'' Airachnid]] and [[Starscream (Movie)|live-action Starscream]].
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Births, Deaths, and Interventions

2014-10-31T15:07:03Z

Combaticons4ever: Another continuity note regarding trepan and megatron

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'''In the present day, an attempt by a small group of Autobots to save the life of a wounded Transformer goes horribly wrong, while in the past, the exiled Megatron comes under mental assault from Senate agents.'''

==Synopsis==

Following the disappearance and reappearance of their shuttle and some of their group, a small handful of Autobots set down on the planet [[Ofsted XVII]] to await word from [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]]. [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] admires the spectacular sunrise—a product, [[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] explains, of atmospheric distortion caused by extreme [[warp gate]] activity in the area following a battle between the [[Galactic Council]], the [[Black Block Consortia]] and others over a wrecked spaceship—but [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailcutter]] is too busy reading ''[[Towards Peace]]'' to pay attention. Presently, a call from the fourth member of their group, [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]], summons them to a nearby lecture theater, ruined in the battle, where the medic has discovered a gravely wounded Transformer of indeterminate faction. As First Aid goes to unload medical equipment carried by Trailcutter, Bluestreak and Mainframe study the wounded 'bot and try to figure out what he turns into.

''Millions of years ago, the [[Senate]]'s chief psychopathologist [[Froid]] arrives on the desolate mining world of [[Messatine]]. He is met by facility head [[Rolt]], who provides him with a datapad on one of the mine's hardest workers: [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. Studying the document briefly, Froid "diagnoses" Megatron with a severe mental illness, and introduces Rolt to his colleague, who will help enact a "cure"... [[Trepan]].''

First Aid returns to find that Bluestreak and Mainframe have moved the injured 'bot, drastically reducing his chances of survival. To ensure his patient lives, First Aid requests a donation of two fluid drams of active [[energon]] from each of the Autobots, but Mainframe is a little unsure, having heard that such a donation risks inducing [[spark]] failure. While First Aid tries to talk him around, Bluestreak gets a nasty surprise when he finds the wounded robot's ''face'' on the foor—little do the group realise, their patient is [[Decepticon Justice Division]] member [[Vos (DJD)|Vos]]!

''In the mines of Messatine, Megatron is hard at work on his latest piece of writing when a cough from his roomate demands his attention. [[Terminus (G1)|Terminus]]—Megatron's friend, proofreader, and the 'bot who somehow smuggles his works back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]—has been dismembered in a mining accident, and will die if he is not repaired. Sadly, the Functionist council has deemed him replaceable, and Megatron now keeps him alive with donations of his own energon. Terminus tries to convince Megatron that, while his words are important, it may become necessary for him to take violent physical action to ensure his message is heard; sensing a change in his friend's tone, Megatron asks him what has happened to alter his viewpoint, and Terminus reveals that he has been visited by Senate agents who suspect that Megatron is still writing. Megatron proposes that he stop, just for a while, but Terminus insists that he ''redouble'' his efforts, as his writings are more necessary than ever. Megatron is prepared to argue, but suddenly, a taser strikes him, knocking him out.''

The weakened Vos chants repeatedly in [[Cybertronian language#Old Cybertronian|Old Cybertronian]], prompting Mainframe to try using some of the theater's translation equipment to decipher his words. Bluestreak continues to examine Vos's detached face, accidentally releasing the multiple stabbing spikes hidden within it—a ghastly revelation that convinces Mainframe to opt out of donating his energon. Bluestreak also refuses, and First Aid orders the two out of the room, but Trailcutter is still willing, even when First Aid gives him the option to bow out by admitting that he knew from the start that Vos was a Decepticon. First Aid begins transferring some of his own energon first, but as he does so, Trailcutter reads off the translated version of Vos's words: "Find. Kill. Cleanse." Recognizing the motto of the Decepticon Justice Division, the horrified First Aid rips the transfer tube out of his chest, refusing to save the life of such a prolific murderer, even at the cost of his own peace of mind. Trailcutter insists on going through with the procedure and plugs the tube into himself, but the re-energized Vos then attacks. Trailcutter saves himself by blasting Vos with his leg guns, then throws his "panic bubble" forcefield around himself while First Aid reluctantly runs off to get Bluestreak and Mainframe's help. Unfortunately, Trailcutter soon discovers he has made a horrible mistake, as part of the pile of wreckage inside his bubble begins to transform: he has locked himself inside his own field with a ''second'' DJD member, who now drains energy from his forcefield in order to repair himself: [[Kaon (DJD)|Kaon]]!

''Megatron awakens on Trepan's operating table, helpless to resist as the [[mnemosurgery|mnemosurgeon]] inserts his finger needle into his brain and prepares to delete his anarchic thoughts. Before he has done little more than scratch the surface of Megatron's mind, however, a call from Froid comes in instructing him to stop: Froid's contemporary [[Rung (G1)|Rung]], an opponent of personality adjustment except in the most extreme cases, has arrived on Messatine. Rung has actually come to inform Froid that the Senate has amended the requirements for personality adjustment, with ''two'' 'bots now required to sign off on the procedure, but before he can even discover who the patient in question is to determine whether or not he will be the second signee, a sudden energy surge from within the mine sets off alarms throughout the facility. So severe is the surge that planetary evacuation is commenced...''

First Aid, Mainframe and Bluestreak return to a grisly scene: Kaon has torn Trailcutter limb from limb, and is holding his [[brain module]] in his hands. First Aid tries to explain that the war has been formally ended by Megatron to the unconvinced DJDer, begging him to study Trailcutter's datapad and see the speech for himself. Kaon agrees, but first crushes Trailcutter's brain against the forcefield; he then picks up the datapad, and radios [[Helex (DJD)|Helex]] to beam him and Vos out.

''Freed from Trepan's clutches, Megatron fights against the throng of evacuees to get back to his chamber and save Terminus. Shoving his way past a guard, he finds their room empty, and nobody can tell him what has become of Terminus. Grabbing up as many of his datapads as he can carry, he runs...''

''...while deep in the deserted mine, the mysterious energy surge peaks, erupts... and [[Brainstorm]] materializes, [[briefcase]] in hand. Looking around, he wonders to himself... "Where to start?"''

==Featured characters==
(Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks.) 
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*[[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] (1)
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] (2)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailcutter]] (3)
*[[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (4)
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*[[Vos (DJD)|Vos]] (9)
*[[Kaon (DJD)|Kaon]] (11)
*[[Brainstorm]] (13)
|c4=
*''[[Froid]]'' (5)
*''[[Rolt]]'' (6)
*''[[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]'' (7)
*''[[Trepan]]'' (8)
*''[[Terminus (G1)|Terminus]]'' (10)
*''[[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'' (12)
}}

==Quotes==

"'''"Postwar Edition"'''? Don't tell me—there's a new chapter at the end: ''"Ignore everything I just said."''"
:—'''Bluestreak''' on ''Towards Peace''

"Maladies of the mind are easily hidden. We don't '''want''' to see them. They remind us of our fragility."
:—'''Froid'''

"You have two weapons at your disposal: your brain and your fists. You must be prepared to use '''both'''."
:—'''Terminus'''

"Perhaps I should stop writing—just for a while." 
"On the contrary—write '''more'''. Write '''quickly'''. Write while you still can. Pin your thoughts to the page like—like '''wraith-flies''', so that others may study the patterns on their wings. The people are '''hungry''', Megatron. You need to keep feeding them."
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Terminus'''

"It's '''Old Cybertronian'''—and it sounds like a prayer." 
"Do you speak...?" 
"No. Unless swearwords count, in which case I'm a ''<Old Cybertronian>'' '''expert.'''"
:—'''Bluestreak''' and '''Trailcutter'''

"Protest is a form of '''sickness''', Megatron. But don't worry... I'm here to cure you."
:—'''Trepan'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Mainframe explains that a battle has recently occurred above Ofsted XVII between the [[Galactic Council]] (an organization introduced in the [[Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|2012 ''More than Meets the Eye'' annual]] and oft-mentioned since) and the [[Black Block Consortia]] (another non-Cybertronian organization mentioned in the same breath as the council in [[Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|issue #24]]). The "buncha mechs" they battled is obviously the DJD, and the derelict ship the wrecked duplicate ''[[Lost Light]]''.
*It's also noted that a large number of [[warp gate]]s were deployed during that conflict, providing an explanation for [[Nautica]]'s observation last issue that local space had been worn down by warp gate activity.
*Bluestreak alludes to what happened to the other new additions to the ''Lost Light'' crew when the original crew and shuttles began disappearing—they were just left floating in space!
*The Autobots don't recognize Vos because, as was previously established in [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|issue #29]], he's a ''new'' Vos, who has since replaced the one seen in the footage of the DJD played at Megatron's trial.
*Froid here receives his first pictorial appearance, after being mentioned in [[More than Meets the Eye issue 13|issue #13]]'s "[[Signal to Noise]]" and [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|issue #28]].
*Rolt mentions a soon-to-be-automated mining outpost by the name "Croteus 12", clearly referring to [[Mining Outpost C-12]], the mine Megatron works in by the time of ''[[The Transformers: Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin]]'' and the automation of which triggers his rebellion.
*Rolt's datapad includes the numerical string "071-980", previously used in reference to Megatron in issue #29, where it appeared on the side of his fuel cannister. It's not clear what this code represents; we know from [[Chaos Theory Part 1|"Chaos Theory"]] that Megatron has no known [[batch code]].
*Trepan previously appeared in issues [[Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|#10]] and [[Remembrance Day|#14]].
*This issue introduces us to Terminus, who was mentioned before in issue #28 as the 'bot Megatron originally dedicated ''[[Towards Peace]]'' to.
*Vos chants "Primus spare my Spark" as he clings to life; we heard [[Flywheels]] utter the same prayer back in [[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|issue #8]].
*Trailcutter gets to use the leg-guns he had installed way back in [[Before & After|issue #12]].
*Trailcutter's "panic bubble" was introduced in issue #29.
*Issue #28 showed us that Megatron had a pronounced fear of mnemosurgery, and with Trepan's aborted operation seen here, we now know why.
*In issue #14, we learn that Trepan was captured by [[Overlord]] during the early (Pre-Optimus Prime) stages of the war and forced to teach Overlord about mnemosurgery...until Megatron had Trepan killed. In this issue, we learn that Trepan tried to perform mnemosurgery on Megatron to prevent him from spreading his ideas before the war. Trepan's failure here lead to his death.

===Transformers references===
*On the cover, Ultra Magnus references "sub-section 11 (3) of the Autobot Code", another of James Roberts's regular references to [[113 (disambiguation)|the number]].
*Megatron's writings refer to Cybertron leaving orbit as an impossibility, but that's exactly what happened due to the war in [[The Transformers (issue)|the Marvel Comics]].
*When Kaon crushes Trailcutter's brain module, the action is accompanied by a "KRIK" sound effect—the same sound effect that accompanied [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]]'s destruction of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s brain module in [[The Legacy of Unicron!|issue #147]] of the original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel UK series]].

===Real-life references===
*The lecture theater in which the Autobots find Vos is named the "Tamizdat" lecture theater. A derivation of "Samizdat"—a Russian loanword referring to the spread of censored publications previously used to describe Megatron's writings in [[Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|issue #9]]—"Tamizdat" specifically refers to such literature published abroad, via smuggled manuscripts. This issue shows us that this is how Megatron's writings reached Cybertron from Messatine, via Terminus; just another example of the Russian political parallels James Roberts has often evoked in describing the growth of the Decepticon movement.

===Crew manifest===
* Trailcutter is apparently killed by Kaon.

===Soundtrack===
*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArbsM60-oOc&list=RDArbsM60-oOc#t=6 The Devil, You + Me]'' by {{w|The Notwist}}
*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCUSWbMUJQ4 Don't You Forget]'' by {{w|Micah P Hinson}}
*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akYQRttnQng Knowing The Ropes]'' by {{w|Michael Nyman}}

===Covers (3)===
*'''Regular cover:''' Ultra Magnus, warning the reader that he's not actually ''in'' the comic and that by purchasing the issue with this cover they're complicit in an act of false advertising, by [[Brendan Cahill]]
*'''Subscription cover:''' Megatron at his writing desk, the shadow of his future self looming large over him, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]]
*'''30th Anniversary cover:''' The third in October's series of three 30th Anniversary covers by [[Ken Christiansen]], which combines with the covers to [[Primacy issue 3|''Primacy'' #3]] and [[The Crucible|''Robots in Disguise'' #34]] to form an image depicting the major eras of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]]. This cover encapsulates the events of the post-[[The Transformers: The Movie|movie]] era.
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Decepticon Justice Division

2014-10-30T12:06:40Z

Combaticons4ever: spoiler tag removed. however, this article should have more added soon when someone (preferably who read the comic) updates it, as the article appears to be two issues behind.

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:''The Decepticon Justice Division is a group from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:Mtmte7 djd.jpg|thumb|upright=2.8|So it's just "Or Death" then?]]

The '''Decepticon Justice Division''' is a division that handles justice. And by justice, we mean "unmarked graves". Traitors and deserters to the [[Decepticon]] cause are targeted by these feared enforcers of [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron's]] will. If the rumors are to be believed they ''always'' find their quarry and execute them in the messiest fashion possible to make an example of them. Some Decepticons would rather go offline than end up on their [[The List|hit list]]. Their usual killing fields are in the proximity of the planet [[Messatine]], and they pursue targets in their spaceship the ''[[Peaceful Tyranny]]''. The group's lineup changes, but its five members always use the same five code-names: those of the [[Fall of the First Five Cities|the first five cities]] to fall to the Decepticons. Many members are known to have [[alternate mode|altmode]]s which incorporate torture devices.

Known members include:
*[[Helex (DJD)|Helex]]
*[[Kaon (DJD)|Kaon]]
*[[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]] (leader)
*[[Tesarus (DJD)|Tesarus]]
*[[Vos (DJD)|Vos]]

{{quote|A free-roaming '''kill squad''': five '''professional sadists''' who like nothing more than to hack, stab and shoot Decepticons who step out of line. But hey, don't worry, because they just '''''love''''' to kill Autobots too.|[[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] on the Decepticon Justice Division|"[[slaughterhouse]]"}}

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
The late and unlamented [[Crosscut (Decepticon)|Crosscut]] was often mistaken for a Justice Division man, which he used to his advantage. {{storylink|The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Crosscut's Squadron X profile}}

[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] once saw the Justice Division doing its dirty work. The shock rendered him speechless for six months, which was quite a feat for him. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}}

One of the previous members of the D.J.D. had hooks for hands and feet. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}

Unknown to the Decepticons, the [[Autobot]]s had a [[Agent 113|mole]] within the Justice Division who leaked information to them. Usually this information would be the turncoats and traitors that the Division was hunting down, whom the Autobots could protect from [[death|justice]] in return for information. It was this agent that informed [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and the [[Wrecker]]s that any attempt to get near [[Garrus-9]] was blown out of the sky with extreme prejudice. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 1}} {{storylink|Bullets}}

In order to ensure the safety of the Autobot medical facility of [[Delphi]] on the planet [[Messatine]], deep within D.J.D. territory, the facility's chief medical officer [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]] entered into a deal with the Division's leader. In return for their leaving Delphi be, Pharma would provide the leader with a constant supply of fresh [[transformation cog]]s from Delphi's dead, in order to feed his addiction to changing shape that caused him to constantly burn through cogs. With the monthly quota of cogs constantly rising, Pharma was forced into drastic action, seeking to escape the deal by shutting down the facility without implicating himself. To this end, he hired Decepticon nobodies [[Sonic (G1)|Sonic]] and [[Boom]] to pose as [[Militant Monoform Movement|Monoformers]] and seek asylum at Delphi, professing to be on the run from the D.J.D. Once inside, they detonated a viral soundbomb that infected Delphi with a corrosive plague that would be blamed on D.J.D. chemical warfare. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}}

The D.J.D. caught up with [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] and brutally tortured him to death after he sold his services to the Autobots. Despite popular conceptions, Tarn declared the war wasn't over until Megatron personally ''said'' it was over. Kaon then alerted Tarn to a signal on the planet Clemency from the undetonated [[K-Class]] named [[Fulcrum (G1)|Fulcrum]]. When they arrived Tarn gave Fulcrum's companions fifteen minutes to give him up and watch him die, or be killed themselves. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}}

The so-called [[Scavenger (group)|Scavengers]] chose to fight, turning an incidental captive [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] against Tarn and the others. The initial surprise wore off, though, and the Scavengers got brutalized. Tesarus ground up [[Flywheels]] in his chest compartment, while Vos made [[Krok (G1)|Krok]] "wear his face". Even a [[Cybernought]] barely helped improve their odds. The remaining hapless Decepticons only survived because Kaon detected [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]'s spark signature. Tarn ordered the D.J.D. off to hunt for bigger fish, but not before warning the surviving Scavengers that their names had all been added to the List. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}

The D.J.D. would later catch up with an alternate Lost Light in their search for Overlord and made short work of the crew before reaching the rogue Phase Sixer in his slow cell beneath the ship and sawing off his head. The group, however, failed to kill one member of the crew — [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}
[[File:Slaughterhouse mtmte -32 djd attack.jpg|thumb|220px|center|And the fandom collectively wept. Whether it was because they had [[spark|souls]] or because they loved watching the DJD kill people has yet to be determined.]]‎
==Trivia==
*In an early plan for "[[Chaos Theory Part 1|Chaos Theory]]", the D.J.D. were going to attack.<ref>[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/t14540/ Moonbase2's second interview with James Roberts - 01:33:27 to 01:35:00]</ref>
*[[James Roberts]] elaborated that when a D.J.D. member dies, his replacement takes his name.<ref>[http://boards.idwpublishing.com/3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12651&start=15 IDW Forums James Roberts Q&A]</ref>
==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 subgroups]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Transformer culture]]
[[Category:Law enforcement]]

Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity

2014-10-29T12:53:50Z

Combaticons4ever: fixing a link

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[[File:IDWMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Megatron A, Megatron B, Megatron Retailer's Incentive, and Megatron Dynamic Forces Exclusive variant.]]
'''Megatron''' waged a battle to destroy the evil forces of the [[Senate]]! Then he ''continued'' to wage a war against the evil forces of freedom, organic life, and the very idea of an Autobot living.

{{quote|In the final analysis, I would happily wade across a river of corpses, chest-deep in rust and grease and engine oil, just to crush the Spark of the last Autobot standing. And I would not do so simply as a means to an end. No. I'd do it, Prime, because it would give me ''pleasure''.|Megatron to Optimus Prime|"[[Chaos Theory Part 1]]"}}

{{quote|People never stop changing Rung. We're all '''works in progress'''. We're the sum of our experiences...even if we '''edit''' those experiences to suit. Selective memory, denial, post-justification...we re-write history - our own history - to keep us sane. To stop us giving up. Every day, we do it. Every day, '''little edits'''. Except sometimes...sometimes it's not '''enough'''. Sometimes you look back on your life - on your life's work - and you realize it's '''unsalvagable'''. And if you're brave enough - or '''desperate''' enough - you throw it all away and start again. On Luna-2 I threw it all away. And here, on this ship, I started again. A brand new autobiography. Same '''title''', different '''words'''.|Megatron, Captain of the ''Lost Light'', in a one to one with Rung|"[[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace]]"}}

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==IDW Generation 1 comics==
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===Birth of a tyrant===
[[File:ChaosTheory1 megatron symbol creation.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|... And thus the "Silica Fracturism" art movement was born.]]
Long ago, before the war and under the reign of [[Nominus Prime]], Megatron of [[Tarn (polity)|Tarn]] was an idealistic 'bot who desired to be a medic. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Alas, he lived in a time of functionism, where one's alternate mode denoted one's role in society, and one's role determined ones rights, so he was assigned the occupation of [[energon]] miner, a member of the lower class, in a mine under [[Nova Point]].{{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} An intellectual and a poet, Megatron was sickened by the caste-ridden social apartheid of Cybertronian society, and so he wrote [[After the Ark: Nominus Prime and the Illusion of Progress|a treatise]] on how pacifist dissent and the exchange of ideas could change things. It was while he was sharing this work with his miner friend [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]] over a drink in [[Maccadam's Old Oil House|Maccadam's New Oil House]] that the event occurred which would change the course of his life, as Impactor wound up being drawn into a bar brawl with some of the city's upper classes and Megatron was among those arrested after the fracas. Megatron's writings had been growing in popularity and inspiring some dissent against the current regime, so in order to silence him, the [[Senate]] arranged for a police officer on their payroll, [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]], to kill him. Before Whirl could finish the job, however, police captain [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]], having discovered Megatron's innocence, arranged for his release. [[File:Minermegs.jpg|225px|thumb|Now that's the look of a well-adjusted individual.]] Despite Pax expressing support for the message of his writings, Megatron now found himself filled with rage and hate, disillusioned with his former ideology and realizing the power of applied violence. Angrily hurling the datapad on which he had written his treatise through a public info-screen, Megatron observed the jagged shape of the shattered glass, and later turned it into a [[insignia|symbol]] for his cause. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1}}

Megatron's samizdat writings began to circulate in Cybertron's underground, spawning the "[[Decepticon]]" movement, its name derived from its own slogan, "You are being deceived", warning the common 'bot of the Senate's true nature. Knowing that, at this stage, assassinating Megatron would merely make him a martyr, the Senate instead elected to relocate him off-planet, reassigning him to [[Mining Outpost C-12]] on the world of [[Messatine]] while they tried their own schemes to defuse the growing Decepticon movement. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}}

Megatron continued to seethe with hate and frustration in his new workplace, which reached a peak when, some time later, [[Decimus|Senator Decimus]] arrived to announce that the mine was being closed immediately and the workers would be relocated. When one of the Senator's guards killed a worker for insubordination and claims of Senate corruption, Megatron's fury boiled over and he hurled his pickaxe at Decimus. In turn, he was attacked by the Senator's guard, whom he killed by smashing his head to fragments. A riot erupted around him, but Megatron himself could only sit amongst the chaos, staring at his fuel-stained hands in abject horror, which allowed him to be easily pacified and rounded up with the other miners as the mayhem was quickly suppressed. En route to [[Penal Facility H-3|imprisonment]] back on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], however, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] broke free and started a riot aboard [[Longshot (G1)|their ship]]. Megatron joined in their effort, and together, they overpowered their guards, took control of the ship, and disappeared into the [[Kaon]] underground. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 1|Megatron Origin #1}}
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After evading law enforcement, Megatron joined a team of underworld gladiators under the tutelage of [[Clench (G1)|Clench]]. Initially repulsed by killing his opponents, the games eventually turned him more brutal and excessive, and he took control of the entire operation from Clench. The opportunistic Senator [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], after seeing how much money there was in the underworld matches, covertly sent his agent [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] to offer Megatron weaponry and technology to upgrade himself and his comrades. Their meeting was spied upon by [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]], agents from the Senate's forces, who Megatron slew. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 2|Megatron Origin #2}} Subsequently, impressed by how he treated his animal-form [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|cassette partners]] as equals (in contradiction to the teachings of his Senate masters), Megatron invited Soundwave back to the gladiator pits and gave him permission to use his mind-reading abilities on him. Within Megatron's mind, Soundwave saw his honest desire for all Cybertronians to be true equals, and was so moved by it that he joined Megatron's cause. {{storylink|Soundwaves (issue)|Soundwaves}}

Gradually, Megatron used the gladiatorial games to drum up an army of violent malcontents, sending Soundwave to recruit more and more warriors to his cause. Such recruits included [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], who he was presented with while having an arm he lost in a brawl replaced with a new limb that incorporated an [[energon mace]], {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}} and the disenfranchised warrior [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], who was personally asked by Megatron to fight at his side when he attended a Decepticon rally, and whom Megatron rechristened "Deadlock". {{storylink|Drift issue 2|Drift #2}} Seeking to enhance his army even further, Megatron reached out to [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Senator Shockwave]], offering to supply him the resources he required to carry out his own mysterious experiments in exchange for his using the teachings of his lost mentor [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] to create a [[combiner]] that would serve the Decepticons. Shockwave cautioned that it could take some time, but Megatron was content to wait. {{storylink|Shockwaves}}

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Despite all his efforts, Megatron believed that the Senate was still not taking the Decepticons seriously, so Soundwave formulated a plan for a declaration of intent that could be not denied: lure the Senate to Kaon and murder them. {{storylink|Soundwaves (issue)|Soundwaves}} In preparation for this scheme, Megatron offered to restore Shockwave's lost hands—a victim of [[empurata]]—believing that doing so might speed his work. {{storylink|Shockwaves}} The following day, in accordance with Soundwave's plan, Megatron and the Decepticons allowed themselves to be arrested by Sentinel Prime's men, after which Soundwave was freed on Ratbat's orders, while Starscream would ensure his own release by pretending to defect. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}} Together, Soundwave and Starscream exterminated the entire Senate, then liberated Megatron and the rest of their comrades, in the process granting their leader the gift of a [[fusion cannon]] liberated from the Senate forces' armory. Megatron led his army against Sentinel Prime's men, killed Sentinel himself, and took control of Kaon, now ready to turn his insurgency into a full-blown war. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}

===Early days of war===

Megatron formally declared war on "[[Declaration Day]]" when he delivered a stirring speech from [[Nova Point|Nova Peak]]. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}} The growing Decepticon forces swiftly spread across six [[Polities of Cybertron|Torus-States]], {{storylink|Parasites}} and to combat them, Cybertron's new leader [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta Prime]] assembled a new military force, the "[[Autobot]]s", led by Megatron's old acquaintance [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]]. Researching his new opposite number, Megatron was intrigued to discover that his now-abandoned treatise had been a source of inspiration for Pax, who had even quoted from it when he confronted the Senate and openly accused them of corruption. {{storylink|Cause and Effect}} Early into the war, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] would admit to Pax that Megatron talked about him sometimes, when he was tired. When Pax asked what was said, Bludgeon told him that it would make "both of us feel ''uncomfortable''". {{storylink|Omega's Conundrum}}
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When Orion Pax came close to Kaon during a mission, Megatron saw it as a chance to speak to him and had his Decepticons bring him in. {{storylink|The Hunt for Soundwave}} Megatron attempted to convince him that Zeta Prime was even worse than he appeared—that he had planned to let Orion die in [[Nyon]] so that he could use his death as pretext to invade the rebel-infested city and drain the citizens of their energon—and proposed they work together against him, but Orion refused to hear him and then escaped. Knowing the doubts he'd placed in his head would only serve to damage the Autobot cause, Megatron let him go. {{storylink|Cause and Effect}}
[[File:Autocracy8 megs and pax together.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"Megatron, let's roll." "What you thinking?" "...Pub?"]]
Megatron continued to keep an eye on Orion Pax's activities, spying on his encounter with the Nyon insurgent [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Hot Rod]]. {{storylink|Ruins}} When Zeta Prime's [[Guardian robot|Omega Destructor]]s suddenly attacked Nyon, Megatron was surprised by how zealously the new Prime fought against the city's rebels, but his real interest still lay on how Orion would handle the crisis. {{storylink|Purge}} Orion turned on Zeta, who in turn attempted to kill him, prompting Megatron to intervene and force the Prime to retreat. Taking Orion back to Kaon, he again offered that they work together against Zeta's corruption, and this time the Autobot officer accepted. {{storylink|Choices}} As their combined forces invaded the [[Citadel]] in Iacon, Megatron and Orion Pax made their way inside and fought Zeta Prime in person. The battle ended with Megatron killing the Prime with a head shot, and with his objective complete, he then betrayed the injured Orion by shooting him in the back. {{storylink|Overthrown}} Curiously, an alternate report incorrectly implied that Megatron had assassinated Zeta from afar, sniping him with the rifle alternate mode of [[Vos (DJD)|Vos]]. {{storylink|Bullets}} {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}
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With Zeta dead, Megatron conquered Iacon and declared himself ruler of Cybertron. His soldiers patrolled the planet's streets to "keep the peace", mostly by hunting down and capturing any remaining Autobots who opposed him. {{storylink|Transformation (issue)|Transformation}} During his rule, Megatron attempted to sway the neutral Hot Rod into joining the Decepticons, but he decided otherwise upon witnessing Megatron ordering the execution of several Autobot prisoners. {{storylink|Rise}} Megatron was shocked to learn that Orion Pax had survived the betrayal and was organizing a rebellion against him under the name "Optimus Prime", and even more shocked that people actually had the courage to listen to him. He wasted no time in striking back against the rebels approaching the Citadel with the full force of his army. {{storylink|Broadcast}} During the battle, Megatron unleashed Zeta Prime's energy-draining [[vamparc ribbon|vamparc annihilator]], but when the gigantic [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] took out the cannon, Megatron fell to the streets and was confronted by Optimus Prime himself. He lost the ensuing [[The Transformers: The Movie|familiar-looking duel]] and was badly wounded after a failed attempt to defeat Prime by holding Hot Rod hostage, forcing him to escape aboard Astrotrain. As he fled, he warned Optimus that he hadn't won, he had only started a war unlike any Cybertron had ever seen. {{storylink|Endgame}}

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Before Megatron could recover from his injuries, he was betrayed by [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], who was gunning for the position of Decepticon leader (with aid from Starscream, against Megatron's knowledge). As punishment for his failure to hold Iacon, Scorponok banished the wounded Megatron to the hell-world of [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]]. {{storylink|Derelicts}} Further injured in battle with some [[Junkion (species)|cannibalistic natives]], he stubbornly refused to give up and used the trash littering the world to patch himself up, leaving him with a mismatched, monstrous appearance. {{storylink|Wreckage (issue)|Wreckage}} While searching for a way off Junkion, Megatron entered the wreckage of a starship and found a trapped [[Quintesson]] named [[Pentius]], who had mapped the planet and knew of an area known as the [[Pillar of Rust]] where starships may land and take off. Megatron freed the alien to guide him there, while also putting him in chains to serve as his slave. {{storylink|Faces of Darkness}}
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While crossing the [[Acid Sea]] on the way to the Pillar, Megatron was attacked by [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]] who pulled him into the depths. {{storylink|Rage (IDW)|Rage}} For reasons unknown he was then released, the creatures having allowed him to live. As he emerged, Pentius was waiting with a history lesson, telling him that Junkion was once a prosperous world until its inhabitants drained it of resources, leaving it the broken husk it is today: a fate that may also await Cybertron. Megatron rejected this possibility, declaring that under his rule, Cybertron—and his legacy—would last forever. {{storylink|Fallout (issue)|Fallout}} On arrival at the Pillar of Rust, Megatron was met by the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]], who had come to Junkion to finish what Scorponok had started by killing him. He was able to fight off several of his attackers, but [[Hun-Gurrr (G1)|Hun-Gar]] was too much for him to handle in his injured state. Egged on and taunted by Pentius, Megatron realized he had one last resource left to use: the Quintesson himself. Telling Pentius that his legacy would live on within him, he tore out the alien's [[spark]] and used it to fuel himself, granting him enough power to defeat Hun-Gar. He spared the Terrorcons in exchange for their loyalty, then returned to Cybertron on their ship to take revenge on Scorponok and take back control of the Decepticons. {{storylink|Prey (issue)|Prey}}
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Megatron returned to a Cybertron in chaos, as the ancient reptilian [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] had been unleashed by Scorponok and was in the midst of razing Iacon. After reasserting his leadership of the Decepticons by beating Scorponok nearly to death, he had Shockwave restore his body to it original shape and condition, {{storylink|The Illusion of Control}} and set out to investigate the Trypticon situation alone, unwilling to risk his soldiers in the face of the beast's uncontrolled fury. Finding an injured Optimus Prime on the battlefield, Megatron lectured him, but opted to leave him alive so that he could watch as the Decepticon leader defeated the enemy that Prime could not. Megatron was attacked by [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], but as they grappled, they were swallowed by Trypticon. {{storylink|Annihilation}} Within the giant, the pair set their differences aside to fend off the [[cyber-morphic predator]]s that populated his interior, and together, they destroyed Trypticon's internal power cell, taking him offline. A tense standoff between the Autobots and Decepticons followed as the two warriors emerged from within Trypticon, but both sides agreed to go their separate ways for the time being. Not long after the battle, however, Megatron removed Pentius's spark from within himself and installed it within Trypticon, reviving the monster as a Decepticon. {{storylink|Belly of the Beast}}

===The spreading conflict===
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Megatron's actions during the war were many. Early during the conflict, he wrote ''[[Towards Peace]]'', a new treatise to replace ''After the Ark'', in which he described continuing to fight the war until the very notion of conflict was literally inconceivable. Then and only then would he finally give up his fusion cannon. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}} The earliest edition of the work featured a dedication to someone named "[[Terminus (G1)|Terminus]]", which Megatron would later remove as a better means of honoring what the mysterious Terminus had taught him: not to get attached. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} He oversaw the creation of a class of super-warriors known as the [[Warriors Elite]], selecting only his most powerful troops to undergo the torturous upgrade, including [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]], a brilliant sadist and frequent opponent of his from his pit-fighting days who had developed an obsession with Megatron after the Decepticon leader dealt him his first ever defeat. {{storylink|Remembrance Day}} At some point, he also created the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] to deal with traitors, {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}} though he elected not to send them after Deadlock when he defected, valuing the warrior enough to instead dispatch [[Lockdown (G1)|Lockdown]] to bring him in. {{storylink|Drift issue 2|Drift #2}}
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Megatron would personally clash with Optimus Prime many times; Optimus grew to respect and fear Megatron as a calm, calculating and measured opponent, while Megatron himself respected Prime's sheer power and his skill as a tactician and as a leader. {{storylink|Escalation issue 5|Escalation #5}} Megatron would later incorrectly recall their battle on [[Sherma Bridge]] during the [[Rorsha Campaign]] as the first time they met. Said battle was certainly momentous—every Autobot and Decepticon stopped fighting to witness their duel, during which Megatron's cannon arm was sliced off by Prime's [[energon-axe]], and he claimed revenge by throwing the Autobot leader off the bridge. As the war spread to other planets, they would meet again and again: during the [[Siege of Massunstrad]], Megatron sealed Prime in an anti-matter chamber; on [[Rada Mor]], Prime reduced Megatron to ashes with sentient explosives; and in the midst of the [[Vorsk Offensive]], Megatron was nearly sliced in half by Prime. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1}} Megatron took on a new pistol alternate mode for the [[Battle for Hell's Point]], during which he was used by [[Heretech]] to blast [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]]. {{storylink|The Gloaming}} During the same skirmish, Megatron took off half of Prime's face with his energon mace, but had a city block dropped on him by Prime in retribution, which shattered his [[transformation cog]] and trapped him in gun mode for two years. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1}} At the war's zenith, Megatron sealed himself in an [[Omniglobe]] to absorb the relentless flood of data coming in from countless fronts. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}}

Prime was not the only old face that Megatron would see again during the war: during a battle on an aerial drilling platform over the [[Manganese Mountains]], Megatron came face-to-face with his old friend Impactor, and stood poised to execute him until Impactor gave him a moment's pause by recalling his old fondness for poetry. In this moment, Megatron was knocked from the platform by [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and sent plummeting to the mountains below. {{storylink|Zero Point}}
[[File:LastStandoftheWreckers2-teleconference.jpg|upright=1.66|left|thumb|"We attack the Rice Krispies guys at dawn! Assuming Judd Hirsch delivers the goods."]]
With total war going nowhere, Megatron would go on to develop a six-stage [[infiltration protocol]] to be used for conquering targeted planets. The sixth phase called for outright planetary razing, and Megatron selected three of his Warriors Elite for this task: [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]], {{storylink|Devastation issue 5|Devastation #5}}, Overlord and [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]]. He informed this trio of his decision via teleconference, but Overlord, tired of being used as someone else's weapon, refused. Megatron threatened to hunt Overlord down for his disobedience, {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 2|Last Stand of the Wreckers #2}} but while the powerful warrior spent the rest of his life preparing for this conflict, Megatron never followed up and left him to stew in his own obsession. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5|Last Stand of the Wreckers #5}}
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Deducing that the Autobot/Decepticon war would culminate in an energy crisis that would threatened the stability of Cybertron itself, Shockwave left Cybertron to secretly pursue alternate energy sources. Around 10,000 years ago, when Shockwave did not return, Megatron ordered Bludgeon to investigate his files, {{storylink|Spotlight: Shockwave}} secretly assigning Soundwave to investigate Bludgeon {{storylink|Spotlight: Soundwave}} and probe deeper into whatever it was Shockwave had created. {{storylink|Shockpoint}}

Shockwave's prediction soon proved accurate, and Cybertron found itself in the throes of an energy shortage. Decepticon scientist [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] came to Megatron with a revolutionary, controversial plan to stave off this energy death by [[Pretender|polydermal grafting]], a process where they encased themselves in "symbiotic carapaces", or shells created from living tissue. When Megatron dismissed him angrily and cut him down, Thunderwing did not abandon his research; instead, he experimented on himself. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 3|Stormbringer #3}} The process gave him immense power, but drove him insane. He became so dangerous that Megatron had to join forces with Optimus Prime to stop him. This battle at [[Thunderhead Pass]] accelerated the apocalypse destined to befall Cybertron, leaving it an uninhabitable, radioactive husk and forcing both armies to continue their war on other worlds. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 1|Stormbringer #1}} Megatron advocated that they simply destroy Cybertron to ensure that Thunderwing was destroyed, but Prime refused, and threatened to stop Megatron if he tried. Megatron agreed not to destroy the planet, but warned Prime that whatever happened was on his head. Shortly after the last big push by the Decepticons, Cybertron was abandoned by both factions. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 1|Stormbringer #2}}

===Breaking protocol===
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In the present day, when word reached Megatron that the infiltration unit led by [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]], stationed on the planet [[Earth]], had broken protocol, he headed for the planet to investigate. Examining the unit's abandoned bunker in [[Nebraska]] for information, he discovered that Starscream had stumbled across [[Ore-13]]—an incredible energy source that (unbeknownst to Megatron) was the end result of Shockwave's experiments—and was planning to use it to usurp Megatron's command. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 4|Infiltration #4}} While studying the bunker's files, he was contacted by [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] with some distressing news: Bludgeon's investigations of Shockwave's files had led him to revive Thunderwing. Megatron ordered the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] to Cybertron, authorizing them to do whatever was necessary to destroy Thunderwing, including the destruction of their homeworld itself. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 3|Stormbringer #3}} Just as he was handing down this order, Megatron was happened upon by [[Verity Carlo]], a human ally of the Autobot unit active on the planet, {{storylink|Infiltration issue 4|Infiltration #4}} but he utterly ignored her. The bunker was then leveled by an airstrike courtesy of [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], who were merely covering their unit's tracks and unaware of Megatron's presence; when their leader furiously emerged from the wreckage, Skywarp attempted to explain their ignorance, but Megatron simply responded by blasting him out of the sky. Blitzwing favored opening fire rather than attempting explanations, so Megatron beat the stuffing out of him too, then set off for Starscream's new bunker in [[Oregon]]. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 5|Infiltration #5}}

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{{quote|You will stand down. If you fight, you ''die''. There is no room anymore for mercy. In the end, you are ''all'' expendable. Choose.|Megatron's ultimatum to Starscream's renegade troops|[[Infiltration issue 6|''Infiltration'' #6]]}}

[[Orbital jump]]ing to Oregon, Megatron called Starscream out and ordered the team to stand down, disgusted to see such power games being played amongst his troops. His brief, chilling speech was enough to take the fight out of all but Starscream, who, powered-up on Ore-13, took Megatron on himself. Though the new power source made Starscream a formidable adversary, Megatron was still more deadly than he, and Starscream was taken out by a point-blank fusion cannon blast through his torso. Megatron ordered the Decepticons to ensure that Starscream survived, and then, observing the Autobots who had been watching the battle, announced that it was time to begin phase two. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 6|Infiltration #6}}

In light of the discovery of Ore-13, Megatron took stock of Starscream's progress on Earth and elected to get the infiltration protocol back on track himself, calling a meeting to make Starscream's former troops and making them aware, in no uncertain terms, that any further insurrections would be met with deadly force. {{storylink|Escalation issue 1|Escalation #1}} He was even able to revisit his past gun alternate mode, once again able to achieve the [[size changing|mass displacement]] the mode required thanks to the extra energy Ore-13 provided. {{storylink|Escalation issue 3|Escalation #3}}

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With his forces joined by [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], a new arrival who Megatron suspected of having ulterior motives, {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two}} the Decepticon leader initiated phase two of infiltration protocol by destabilizing relations between the European nations of [[Latveria]] and [[Symkaria]] through use of an aggression-inducing [[Psycho-Prism]], stolen from Latverian dictator [[Doctor Doom]]. When the superhero team known as the [[Avengers]] investigated the array the Decepticons' were using to broadcast the prism's signal, Megatron abducted the arachnid-powered [[Spider-Man]] to use as a subject for their [[mirror response mode]], {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part One}} draining the hero's powers and infusing himself and the other Decepticons with them. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two}} He proceeded to forge a brief alliance with Doctor Doom, who helped him defeat and capture the allied Autobot/Avenger team who snuck inside the Decepticons' array, but when Doom's suggestion to threaten the captives in order to force the other heroes to lay down their arms failed, Megatron violently dissolved the partnership. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Three}} Emerging from the confines of the array to take on the Autobots and Avengers himself, Megatron refrained from engaging Prime, foreseeing a more intimate confrontation between the two of them in the near future, and instead turned his attention to destroying [[Iron Man]]'s Transformer-sized armor. The tables soon turned, however, when Doctor Doom freed the captive Autobots and used the Decepticon's mirror response technology to empower them. Defeated by these enhanced Autobots and with the Psycho-Prism destroyed by [[Wolverine (superhero)|Wolverine]], Megatron used the last of his extra power to teleport the Decepticons out with an [[emergency warp-out]]. He refrained from departing alongside his warriors, intending to slaughter the Avengers for their interference, but when he was immobilized by Spider-Man's webbing, knocked to the ground by [[Luke Cage]], and rattled by a hail of Autobot fire, he finally warped-out with a final taunt to Optimus Prime of the battle yet to come between them. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Four}}
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With phase two of [[infiltration protocol]] properly underway, Megatron recognized that he ''should'' rightly withdraw and install a new unit commander on Earth, but could not resist the chance to try out his new Ore-13 empowered body, selecting the nation of [[Brasnya]], where Decepticon subterfuge was already underway, as his testing ground. {{storylink|Escalation issue 2|Escalation #2}} Allowing the Decepticon's [[facsimile construct]] [[Georgi Koska]] to wield him in pistol mode, Megatron had Koska use him to first sever a [[Russia]]n oil pipeline, and then to fire upon the soldiers who came to investigate, furthering the political and military tensions already brewing in the region. When word came through from Blitzwing that Optimus Prime and the Autobots had arrived, {{storylink|Escalation issue 3|Escalation #3}} Megatron at last engaged Optimus directly, {{storylink|Escalation issue 4|Escalation #4}} and although Prime was able to destroy his fusion cannon, the extra strength afforded Megatron by Ore-13 allowed him to physically beat Prime into submission, punching directly into his chest and crushing his [[spark]]. {{storylink|Escalation issue 5|Escalation #5}} [[File:Escalation5 prime vs megs.jpg|upright=1.4|left|thumb]] The horrified Autobots moved into a full but ineffective counterattack, their only edge being that Megatron had no long-range guns left. It turned out that Prime's apparent death was a desperate ruse when the Autobot leader countered with a surprise attack on Megatron, able to exploit Ore-13's weakness—the more it's used, the faster it burns itself out. Megatron almost collapsed from power loss and was forced to have Skywarp take him to safety before the Autobots could kill him. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6|Escalation #6}}

Furious over the embarrassing defeat, Megatron threw protocol out the window and ordered that Sixshot be summoned to the planet. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6|Escalation #6}} He took out some of his anger on Ramjet, who he discovered had been busy cooking up a plot to overthrow him; without saying a word, he beat the attempted traitor to death before tearing him apart and keeping his head as a trophy. {{storylink|Spotlight: Ramjet}}
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Upon Sixshot's arrival, Megatron ordered him to utterly destroy the Autobots, and although the [[Phase Sixer]] questioned his early deployment, he was happy to go along with the abandonment of the phase structure. The other Decepticons, on the other hand, were worried that Megatron was losing his grip—and since they were too scared to tell him that, they decided to revive Starscream to do it for them. {{storylink|Devastation issue 1|Devastation #1}} Megatron monitored Sixshot's attack on the Autobots' [[Ark-19]], ordering him to pursue the escape pod that broke away from the crashing craft, {{storylink|Devastation issue 2|Devastation #2}} but before he could obliterate the Autobots, Megatron was forced to recall him to deal with a new threat assaulting the Decepticon base—the alien [[Reaper]]s. {{storylink|Devastation issue 4|Devastation #4}} Unfortunately, the Reapers convinced Sixshot to side with them, and when an Ore-13 powered Starscream entered the fray to take Sixshot down, Megatron realized his troops had been conspiring against him. He decided not to punish them '''yet''', due to greater threat posed by the Reapers, {{storylink|Devastation issue 5|Devastation #5}} and entered battle alongside them all, even allowing Starscream to wield him in pistol mode against the aliens. After the invaders were dead, however, he turned on his men, starting with Blitzwing—but was forced to realize that they needed to remain united when it became apparent that their battle with the Reapers had made humanity inescapably aware of their existence {{storylink|Devastation issue 6|Devastation #6}}
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===All Hail Megatron===
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While the Decepticons were occupied fighting the Reapers, the Autobots had left Earth to deal with the greater threat of an incursion by the [[Dead Universe]]. Exploiting their enemies' absence, Megatron and his men went to ground; when Autobots returned, they could find no trace of the Decepticons, who kept one step ahead of them for months. Secretly abducting [[Hunter O'Nion]], former [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] partner to the Autobot [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], Megatron and his men returned to Cybertron, where Megatron had [[Deluge (G2)|Deluge]] conduct experiments that bred a [[Insecticon swarm|swarm]] of monstrous [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]]. The experiments culminated in the creation of [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]], who Megatron employed in a series of key tasks in his plan: the Insecticon obtained from Hunter's mind various Autobot secrets and codes, completed Shockwave's long-gestating combiner process, granting the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] the ability to combine into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], and created a working [[space bridge]] {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7|All Hail Megatron #7}} based on designs sold to them by Sixshot in exchange for his freedom. {{storylink|Spotlight: Metroplex}}

Returning to Earth, the Decepticons staged a phony schism within their ranks, allowing the Autobots to believe that they had "disappeared" as a result of a power struggle that had split their ranks into two camps, one led by Megatron and one by Starscream. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7|All Hail Megatron #7}} Starscream then approached Sunstreaker, whose experience has a Headmaster had left him bitter and jaded, with the proposition that the Autobots join with his forces against Megatron, {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8|All Hail Megatron #8}} but when the Autobots arrived at the designated time and place, they were instead confronted by the united Decepticon army and quickly defeated by Devastator. After personally tearing [[Matrix of Leadership]] from Optimus Prime's chest, Megatron marched the captive Autobots through the space bridge back to Cybertron, where the Insecticon swarm waited for them. Prime, however, was able to damage the bridge, causing it to deposit the Autobots a safe distance from the swarm, but in the process, fried his own circuits and left himself comatose. Though the Autobots had escaped the fate he had intended for them, Megatron had successfully exiled his enemies to their dead homeworld; moreover, using information and codes gained from Sunstreaker and Hunter, he concurrently orchestrated the event that would later be known as [[Surge (event)|The Surge]], as Decepticons stormed Autobot installations all across the galaxy, achieving total victory. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7|All Hail Megatron #7}}

[[File:Bringingthehousedown.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Megatron's urban renewal program was off to a flying start.]]
With galaxy-wide domination accomplished, one year after the Decepticons' battle with the Reapers, Megatron chose Earth to become the new Decepticon homeworld. Together with his men, Megatron stormed [[New York City]], humiliating Starscream with a display of his greater capacity for destruction. When the US Air Force retaliated, Megatron shrugged off their fire and ordered the other Decepticons to engage them; when one damaged jet threw itself toward him in a suicide run, Megatron, outraged at the [[DJ (G1)|pilot]]'s temerity, destroyed it and its occupant with a furious swipe of his hand. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1|All Hail Megatron #1}} When US Army forces arrived, Megatron ordered [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] dispatched to deal with them, then sent Devastator to destroy the subway tunnels leading out of the city. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 2|All Hail Megatron #2}} With New York secured, Megatron directed the Constructicons to begin building a new space bridge in the city's heart, and had a candid talk with Starscream, revealing his belief that the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]'s attitude and actions marked him as the embodiment of the Decepticon cause, even if he was blind to seeing it himself. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 3|All Hail Megatron #3}} After a series of further attacks on major American cities saw the country firmly crushed under the Decepticons' collective heel, Megatron made a propaganda speech to his men in the ruins of New York. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 4|All Hail Megatron #4}} As night fell upon the city, Megatron withdrew to privately gloat over the Matrix. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 5|All Hail Megatron #5}}

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As the Decepticons began attacking other countries around the globe, Megatron was questioned by Starscream on what the next step in his plan was. A recalcitrant Megatron merely informed him that it was merely time to savor their victory, but Starscream accused him of not ''having'' any plans post-victory, and was merely allowing his men to run wild to distract them from any notion of taking power for themselves. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}} What Starscream did not realize was that Megatron did indeed have a plan: to defeat the Autobots, he had created an army of killers and monsters, but in order to create his perfect rule, that army would have to be destroyed, the dissenting, distasteful elements obliterated before Megatron's peace could dawn. Megatron was not distracting his warriors... he was ''waiting'' to see which of them would question and turn on him. Silently sorrowful to already know that such dissent would begin with Starscream, an otherwise-model Decepticon, {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10|All Hail Megatron #10}} Megatron withdrew to [[Israel]] for some silent reflection amid wholesale devastation. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}}

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Some time later, Megatron surveyed the space bridge Bombshell and the Constructicons had built in New York. He congratulated Bombshell on his work, but revealed that he had always foreseen Bombshell's intellect as a danger—had always known he and his fellow Insecticons would side with Starscream when the time came. His gambit exposed, Starscream made his move and attacked, but the Insecticons proved no match for Megatron's might. The Decepticon leader had failed to anticipate one thing, however: he did not foresee the Constructicons siding with Starscream, and found himself having to fight the mighty Devastator. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10|All Hail Megatron #10}} The in-fighting was halted by a last-ditch attack by the mustered might of what remained of the human resistance, forcing Megatron and Starscream to put their differences aside momentarily and organize a defense. This attack came as no surprise to Megatron, but the same could not be said for the next entrants onto the battlefield: the Autobots had returned.

After assuring Starscream that he would be leader in the future, when his time was done, Megatron confronted Optimus Prime, surprised not so much that his old foe had survived, but that he had bothered to return to Earth. Both leaders had always maintained a policy of acceptable losses through their millennia-long war, so Megatron assumed Prime had come back for selfish reasons, to reclaim the Matrix, but Prime insisted that he had changed, and would no longer allow their cold war to endanger innocent lives on this scale. [[File:AHM12 prime vs megs.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66]] Megatron scoffed at the notion, reavling that Prime's supposedly "innocent" humans were planning to nuke New York, killing millions of their own just to get rid of the Decepticons, {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11|All Hail Megatron #11}} but Prime retorted that it wasn't ''just'' about the humans, but also about the difference between Autobots and Decepticons. The two came to blows, but Megatron triumphed in short order and commanded the Decepticons to depart, leaving the Autobots to be killed by the humans' nuke... but just before they withdrew, he was shot in the face by human soldier [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]], wielding a powerful weapon reverse-engineered from Cybertronian technology. Injured and disoriented by the blast, Megatron was finished off when Prime smashed his face in with his own fusion cannon. As he wanted to ''take'' leadership rather than just have it fall in his hands, Starscream picked up his damaged leader and ordered the Decepticons to retreat. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

[[File:AllHisEngines-Megatron.jpg|thumb|Pretty sure when you float in a bacta tank you're supposed to be wearing a diaper.]]
The Decepticons departed Earth aboard Astrotrain, where the gravely wounded Megatron was put on life support and tended to by Soundwave and his cassettes. With Megatron's life signs only at ten percent capacity, Starscream attempted to appeal to Soundwave's sense of logic and have him shut down so that leadership could be his, but Soundwave refused. Starscream was soon able to take command, however, when he recovered the Matrix of Leadership and professed to have been chosen by it. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13|Uneasy Lies the Head}}

===New body, new powers===
The Decepticons eventually settled on a desolate asteroid, where Megatron was installed in a [[CR chamber|CR tank]]. Retaining some level of awareness of the events occurring around him during his convalescence, he was forced to watch as his army languished in inactivity, their energy slowly ebbing away until they were reduced to cannibalism. {{storylink|All His Engines}} After a year of trying to free his leader from this living death, Soundwave was finally forced to conclude that Megatron's body was beyond repair, and recruited the recently returned Shockwave, whom Starscream had provided with the majority of the Decepticons' resources to create a space bridge, to help build a new body for Megatron's consciousness to inhabit. The operation succeeded and Megatron was reborn in a deadly new body, powered by Ore-13, armed with a devastatingly powerful rail gun, and even equipped with space bridge nodes stolen from Metroplex, which gave him the ability to open space bridge portals on his own. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 2: Altered Carbon|Altered Carbon}} {{storylink|Spotlight: Megatron}}

[[File:IDWongoing15 megatrons new body.jpg|left|thumb|275px|"Uh, it's like...did anyone ever see the movie ''Tron''?"]]
Back in action, Megatron devised a plan to destabilize the relationship between the humans and Autobots on Earth. Together with Soundwave and Shockwave, he chopped up his old body and used it to create human-scaled replicas of his former gun mode, containing small pieces of his own consciousness. When Starscream caught them in the act, Megatron elected to table his plan for the moment, as he considered it folly to go against Starscream's wishes for the moment since the Seeker was still in possession of the Matrix of Leadership. Megatron had never truly understood what the talisman ''did'', but it served as a threat merely by being an unknown variable. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 2: Altered Carbon|Altered Carbon}} Fortunately, for Megatron this variable was soon removed from the equation when Hot Rod, estranged from the Earthbound Autobots, infiltrated the Decepticons' asteroid base and recovered the Matrix from Starscream. Megatron seized his chance, intercepting the Autobot and blasting him and the Matrix out into the void of space. {{storylink|Heart Like a Wheel}}

[[File:SLMegatron stealth bomber mode.jpg|thumb|275px|Behold... the ''Bomberang!'']]
With Starscream's trump card now gone, Megatron had the Decepticons gathered so he could address them. Distrustful of Shockwave's motives for preparing his new body, wary of Soundwave's constant surveillance, and repulsed by the state of his once fearsome Decepticon war machine, Megatron decided that he needed to unequivocally reestablish dominance over the now Matrix-less Starscream. He intended to beat Starscream near to death as a means of letting them both work out their frustrations with Starscream's inability to lead effectively during Megatron's absence, but Starscream did not want to fight—spiritually broken by his failures, he simply wanted Megatron to kill him. Rather than accept this, Megatron instead goaded Starscream into opening fire upon him. This began a running battle between the two, with Megatron pursuing the fleeing Seeker in his new stealth bomber alternate mode, continuing to bait Starscream every time he appeared willing to give up the fight. Incensed by Starscream's accusation that he did not know what it felt like to see everything he had worked for fall apart, when that was exactly what Starscream's pitiful leadership had done to the empire he had created, Megatron pummeled him to within an inch of his life, then paused to explain why he kept a schemer like Starscream around: as a constant reminder to watch his back. The brutal display galvanized the languid Decepticons, and Megatron was ready to begin his scheme. {{storylink|Spotlight: Megatron}}

[[File:IDWongoing14 megatron guns.jpg|upright=1.66|left|thumb|Megatron doesn't support the NRA. He IS the NRA.]]
Roughly two years after the Decepticons' defeat on Earth, Megatron used his space bridge powers to dispatch a container full of the guns made from his old body to Earth, where they were found by South American gun-runners and illegally disseminated amongst an increasingly paranoid public seeking ways to protect themselves against Transformers. This allowed Megatron's consciousness to spread across North America, until it was focused enough to contact one particular owner of a Megatron gun: [[Joe Gladki]]. He deceived and manipulated the paranoid human, and eventually convinced him to perform an assassination attempt on [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]], the new Autobot leader. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 2: Altered Carbon|Altered Carbon}} In their ignorance, the Autobots then mistook Gladki's gun for Megatron himself and held it captive. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 1: The Demolished Man|The Demolished Man}}

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With the Autobots in chaos, Megatron started the next phase of his plan and returned to Earth personally, where he used his new stealth bomber mode to shoot down a plane carrying Optimus Prime and several other Autobots. He then hunted down the remaining Autobots, effortlessly defeating them and their new temporary leader Ultra Magnus with his powerful new body, and killing some of their [[Skywatch]] allies. Magnus tried to draw Megatron's attention from the humans, claiming the Autobots were the ones he really wanted, but Megatron assured him that humanity was his real target. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 3: Woken Furies|Woken Furies}} Taking the defeated Autobots captive, Megatron dumped them in a city and directed three of his mind-controlled human puppets to kill them. Contacting Prime directly, Megatron summoned him to the city's outskirts and revealed his plan: crush Prime's spirit and destroy the Autobots' alliance with humanity by forcing them to choose between fighting the humans or allowing them to kill them. Prime found the hole in Megatron's plan, however, when he realized that Soundwave was maintaining the connection between Megatron and his guns, and shot him in the head. His connection to his pawns severed, Megatron scooped up Soundwave and withdrew. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 4: Burning Chrome|Burning Chrome}} Thanks to a tracker Ultra Magnus had slipped on Soundwave, though, Prime was able to follow the Decepticons to their bolthole and called Megatron out for a full and proper confrontation. In actuality, Prime had lured Megatron outside so Skywatch could drop a [[kinetic harpoon]] on him, but even a weapon dropped from orbit barely proved able to put a scratch in Megatron's mighty new exostructure. Megatron proceeded to beat Prime senseless, but then returned him to the Autobots, and to their great shock, surrendered to their custody. After recovering, Optimus demanded to know why he had surrendered, but Megatron merely taunted him by revealing that Spike Witwicky had murdered a Decepticon in cold blood. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 5: Enemy Mine|Enemy Mine}} Prime immediately had Prowl begin investigating Spike and Skywatch, and Prowl interrogated the Decepticon leader for information, which he provided after a little verbal sparring. {{storylink|Police Action: Prologue}}

[[File:ChaosTheory1 megatron imprisoned.jpg|upright=1.3|left|thumb|Megatron and Optimus Prime can't agree on a safe word.]]
When Rodimus returned to Earth and warned the Autobots that [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] had taken control of Cybertron, Optimus decided to lead the Autobots in reclaiming their homeworld. In the name of Earth's safety, he elected to bring Megatron and the confiscated guns made from his old body with them. {{storylink|Space Opera—Final Tableaux: Orphans of the Helix|Orphans of the Helix}} On the way to Cybertron aboard [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], Prime again attempted to discern why Megatron had surrendered, even releasing his old foe from his bonds and having a civil conversation with him about their past together and their dueling ideologies. Optimus tried to reach out to Megatron, offering him the chance to end the war once and for all with a handshake; Megatron appeared to consider it for a moment but ultimately remained silent. With Megatron returned to the confines of the [[variable voltage harness]], the other Autobots pressured Optimus for a decision on his fate: execution or imprisonment. Trying to come to a conclusion, Prime asked Megatron if he regretted any of his actions, but the Decepticon leader remarked that he only regretted not killing ''more'' Autobots. He taunted Prime with the notion that even he was thankful for the war, as it had raised him from a nobody to the greatest Autobot in history, and a furious Prime activated the harness, electrocuting Megatron. The jolt would have killed Megatron if Omega Supreme had not cut the power in time and Megatron, struggling to stay conscious, offered Prime his thanks for saving his life all those years ago in Rodion. Shocked by his actions, Prime realized that Megatron wanted to die and wanted Prime to be the one to kill him. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1}} Eventually, Prime decided to let Megatron choose his own fate, and Megatron calmly replied that he chose death. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 2}}

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As Omega drew close to Cybertron, Megatron demanded to know who or what was threatening their homeworld, but Optimus Prime refused to provde him with any information. {{storylink| Chaos Part One: Lamentations|Lamentations}} The Autobots subsequently engaged Galvatron's forces in battle, and while they were occupied, Megatron put into motion the ace he had up his sleeve: taking remote control of the numerous "Megatron guns" aboard Omega, Megatron summoned them to him and combined with them into a new armored mode. Breaking free from his restraints, he headed out to confront Galvatron, intent that nobody would take his world from him. {{storylink|Chaos Part Two: Numbers|Numbers}} As he tore through the Sweeps, Megatron also revealed the reason for his surrender: now that he was back on Cybertron, he could open a space bridge that would allow the massed forces of the Decepticons on Earth to return to their home planet as well. Unfortunately, not long after the Decepticons arrived on the battlefield, Galvatron's secret puppet master, the Dead Universe entity known as [[D-Void]], seized control of their minds and those of the Sweeps, merging them into a gigantic, monstrous avatar. With Prime occupied pursuing Galvatron into Cybertron's depths, Megatron was left to face this "[[Deceptigod]]" alone. {{storylink|Chaos Part Three: Kings|Kings}} Fighting against D-Void's attempts to ensnare his own mind and make him part of the collective, Megatron was gravely wounded and even lost an arm to the beast, but succeeded into destroying it, blasting it apart with one massive beam from his weapons. {{storylink|Chaos Part Four: Genesis|Genesis}}

===The long game===
Even as the Deceptigod disintegrated back into its component Decepticons, Megatron could see the potential the creature embodied—D-Void had, in essence, created the perfect combiner by means of utterly obliterating free will. With Cybertron reverting into a primordial wasteland around him—a result of Optimus Prime purifying [[Vector Sigma]] with the Matrix to stop Galvatron and D-Void—Megatron chose to withdraw to experiment with the possibilities this presented. He informed Shockwave, the sole Decepticon who had not been made part of the Deceptigod, of his plans, and Shockwave in turn revealed them to Soundwave and Bombshell. {{storylink|Shockpoint}} While Megatron hid in the wilderness, his Decepticons were left to live as second-class citizens in the new [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] that the Autobots built; Optimus Prime left Cybertron two weeks after D-Void's defeat to calm tensions with "NAILs"—other unaffiliated Cybertronians—who had returned to their homeworld, but even as he did so, he mused that Megatron must still be out there somewhere. {{storylink|Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}}

[[File:RID11 megatron in wilderness.jpg|left|thumb|225px|Megatron can't find anyone who wants to join his nudist colony to save his skin.]]
In the months of study and experimentation that followed, Megatron discerned that the combination of Ore-13 and space bridge technology in his body somehow gave him the ability to manipulate the natural energy of Cybertron that D-Void had used to merge the Decepticons into the Deceptigod. After experiments on [[turbofox]]es created larger, more ferocious beasts, Megatron stepped up trials when the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] seceded from the shaky government Bumblebee, [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]] and Starscream were building in Iacon and ventured into the wilderness. The signal Megatron had created from the combination energy first drove the Aerialbots mad, before uniting them in body and mind, spontaneously merging them into the gestalt [[Superion (G1)|Superion]], but this newborn Autobot combiner was considered hopelessly insane by Megatron and left to die in the wilderness. The madness aspect of the signal afforded him the chance to revive some of the principles of the infiltration protocol, however, as he blanketed the wastelands in it, forcing the Autobots, Decepticons and NAILs to stay in Iacon, causing natural conflict among them to snowball, providing a useful cover for his actions. To gain a pawn within Autobot high command, Megatron even provided Bombshell with the energy to use in conjunction with his own mind-controlling [[cerebro-shell]]s, ensnaring the mind of Prowl. With the resources and cover control of Prowl provided, Shockwave, Soundwave and Bombshell were able to use Megatron's findings to perfect the combination process, rebuilding the Constructicons with new modular designs that would allow them to merge into a perfect Devastator. The endgame was for Megatron himself to form the head of the combiner, but before risking his own mind and body, Megatron decided that Prowl would be used first as a test subject. {{storylink|Before the Dawn}}

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The appearance of a [[Crystal City Metrotitan|Metrotitan]] on Cybertron which declared that Starscream was the "Chosen One" threatened Megatron's ability to easily re-take leadership of his Decepticons, forcing him to step up his schedule. Through Prowl, he had his inner circle gathered together in the secret "[[Black Room]]", then boldly strode into Iacon for all to see. {{storylink|The End of the Beginning of the World}} His body shattered and skeletal, he professed to come in peace, but Bumblebee did not accept his surrender and ordered his Autobots to kill him. Indeed, Megatron could possibly have died there and then had Iacon's Decepticons not stepped in, insisting that Megatron's defense of Cybertron during D-Void's attack marked him a hero and that he be taken into custody instead. {{storylink|City on Fire}} After [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] got through examining him to prove his body concealed no weapons, Starscream approached the imprisoned Megatron and attempted to explain that he was not far away from taking complete power in the government, ensuring a Decepticon victory of a different kind. Megatron merely smiled silently at the notion, terrifying his ex-lieutenant with his grin. Presently, the Decepticons rose up in an angry mob and marched on Autobot high command to insist on Megatron's release; the situation quickly devolved into a riot, during which a squad led by [[Needlenose]] stormed the prison and freed Megatron. {{storylink|The Verge}}

[[File:RID14 new body redux.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.55|New body or not, Megatron may want to think twice about standing [[:File:Devastator-ROTFenemyscrotum.jpg|underneath Devastator's legs.]]]]
Megatron brought Starscream and the captured Bumblebee and Metalhawk to the Black Room, where he explained his plans and had himself transferred into a pre-prepared new body that could combine with the Constructicons' new forms. At his command, the Constructicons and Prowl combined into the new Devastator, who immediately set about razing Iacon. {{storylink|Before the Dawn}} Even the return of Superion seemed unable to stop the powerful new combiner, until help came from an unexpected quarter—Prowl's secret assassin [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] killed Bombshell, taking out Prowl's controller and causing Devastator to shut down. This was no real impediment to Megatron, however, as the successful function of the new combiner process has been proven, and he set out to take ''his'' place as Devastator's head. Before Megatron could reach the fallen gestalt, though, Devastator awoke, possessed of his own unique, unite consciousness for the first time, and resumed tearing into Iacon. {{storylink|Plan for Everything}}

[[File:RID20 megatron in forcefield.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|You know you can't catch a break when you find yourself trapped inside a novelty plasma lamp from Spencer's.]]
Still Megatron remained unfazed, calmly fending off Autobot attacks and waiting for the inevitable moment when the heroes would take Devastator down. When [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] succeeded in doing so by managing to reach Prowl, Devastator separated, and Megatron immediately stepped in, re-initiation the combination with himself in control. Seconds before uniting with the Constructicons, though, his plan was foiled by Bumblebee, Ironhide and Prowl's activation of a secret failsafe: Wheeljack had integrated a forcefield generator into Megatron's spark casing during his examination of him, and when it was triggered, he was completely paralyzed in mid-transformation. {{storylink|Heavy Is the Head}}

In the fallout of the battle, Starscream killed Metalhawk, took control of Iacon and banished the Autobots and Decepticons from the city. He took custody of the immobilized Megatron, and silently gloated over the victory he had accomplished by using guile and politics, rather than Megatron's ways of brute force and firepower. {{storylink|Three Monologues}}

===A new approach===
Megatron would not remain incapacitated for long. That night, as the end result of millennia-long secret machinations by Shockwave, an [[Necrotitan|undead Metrotitan]] appeared on Cybertron and opened a portal to the Dead Universe in the planet's skies. Through the portal, Shockwave made contact with Galvatron and his master, the exiled Cybertron despot [[Nova Prime]], but was unable to bring them through to Cybertron thanks to the unexpected disappearance of the Titan's space bridge system. Reanimating the deceased Metalhawk with a wave of necrotic energy from the Titan, Shockwave had him liberate Megatron and bring him to his secret lab in [[Crystal City]]. {{storylink|Winners & Losers: Dark Cybertron Chapter 3|Winners & Losers}}

[[File:RID24 i remember you.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Somewhere in the multiverse, [[Override (G1)|Override]] and [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] are smiling.]]
Shockwave hoped that Megatron would comply with his plans willingly, but the Decepticon leader refused and Shockwave forcibly activated the space bridge technology in Megatron's body. {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}} The opening of the bridge in his chest caused Megatron agony, but his screams were heard by Soundwave, who led the united forces of the exiled Autobots and Decepticons to Shockwave's lab to free his leader. Nova Prime and Galvatron attempted to squeeze their way through the space bridge despite this interference, but Ironhide was able to punch Nova back through into the Dead Universe. Just then, Shockwave's "Necrotitan" came crashing into the subterranean city, and in the chaos, Megatron was freed from the restraints holding him. No sooner had Megatron carried Ironhide to the safe hands of the other Autobots, however, than he was ripped in half from behind by Galvatron, who had successfully emerged through the portal. {{storylink|Finest Hour: Dark Cybertron Chapter 5|Finest Hour}}

[[File:MTMTE26 megs and bee.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|I smell a sitcom!]]
After the battle was over, Galvatron and [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] lugged Megatron's bisected remains back into Crystal City, only to find their way barred by the unlikely form of Bumblebee, who demanded they hand Megatron over. Galvatron attacked the Autobot, at which point Megatron revealed that he was fine, as he took down Waspinator and knocked Galvatron out with a barrage of fusion cannon fire. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}} Bumblebee lugged Megatron back to the Iacon, currently being razed by the Necrotitan, where the Decepticon leader announced to the assembled Autobots, Decepticons and NAILs his plan to withdraw to [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]], summon the Decepticon Justice Division and other scattered troops, and strike back. Bumblebee rejected Megatron's notion of retreating, and struck a nerve within him by questioning his entire philosophy: Megatron had ''long'' ago abandoned any notion of fighting for freedom and equality, Bumblebee attested, and merely used the claim to ideology as an excuse for his actions. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} Fortunately, fighting back suddenly got a lot easier when Metroplex and the ''[[Lost Light]]'' space-bridged to Cybertron. During the battle between the Titans, Megatron observed Metroplex reaching for the ''Lost Light''; when the ship's crew explained that they had Metroplex's severed thumb aboard, Megatron had Bumblebee carry him to it, whereupon he realized that the thumb contained one of Shockwave's [[Regenesis]] ores. Megatron used his internal space bridge to teleport the thumb back to Metroplex, and the ore provided the giant with the power boost to defeat the Necrotitan. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}

[[File:DCFinale megatron the autobot.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.95|ಠ_ಠ]]
At Bumblebee's order and under protest, [[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]] repaired Megatron's injuries and reattached his legs, reminding Megatron of his desire in youth to be a medic. His recent string of failures, the success of ''Starscream'', of all 'bots, and Bumblebee's stinging words had turned the Decepticon leader introspective, and he realized he had forgotten something very important that had driven his writings in his early years: winning meant turning people to your way of thinking, not dominating them. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}} Subsequently, when Shockwave initiated his millennia-long plan to collapse all reality into a universal black hole, Megatron placed himself and the Decepticons under Bumblebee's command to co-ordinate a counter-strike, and journeyed with his uneasy new "friend" into Shockwave's [[Crystal City]] base to confront their shared enemy. There, they found the weakened Galvatron, who Megatron prepared to destroy for past indignities, until Bumblebee talked him down, convincing him that blood did not have to be repaid with blood. At that moment, Shockwave struck, slaying Bumblebee with a blast, and driving Megatron into a rage. {{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} Empowered by his various ores and the energy of the Dead Universe, Shockwave was a formidable opponent and it was all Megatron could do to hold his own against him until Optimus Prime arrived to join the fight. Prime attempted to reason with Shockwave and remind him of the kindly senator he had once been, but his words had little effect, so Megatron opted for a more object lesson: removing the fallen Bumblebee's insignia, he placed it upon his chest and declared himself an Autobot. The stunned Shockwave lost control of the time machine powering his plot, causing his old pre-[[Shadowplay]] memories to emerge. Horrified at what he had become, he allowed Megatron and Prime to kill him, which caused the time machine to collapse into a singularity. Megatron and Prime made what seemed to be a futile dash for freedom, but were saved from the singularity's pull at the last moment by the timely arrival of the ''Lost Light''. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}

===Towards Peace===
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{{quote|I don't want to be acquitted. I want to '''make amends'''|Megatron on his new goal in life|"[[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide]]"}}
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In a private meeting between Optimus Prime and Megatron a short time after Shockwave's defeat, Megatron affirmed that his change of heart was genuine, and Optimus assured him that he could see past his wartime deeds and remember the well-intentioned 'bot he had started out as. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}} The rest of Cybertron was not so convinced, however, with the NAIL population demanding a trial; realizing that the Decepticon leader's fate had to be decided in public, Autobot High Command agreed and set up a military trial with Optimus Prime sitting in as [[Chief Justice]]. Before the trial, Megatron was approached by Optimus, [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] and Rodimus in an attempt to extract some of the Decepticon's memories for evidence in hopes of expediting the proceedings, but a horrified Megatron refused, considering the sanctity of his mind all he had left. After Optimus departed, Rodimus remained to taunt Megatron with the certainty of his execution; in return, the impassive Decepticon simply asked Rodimus to deliver a [[communicube]] to Optimus, {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} containing a request to have the trial moved to the [[Raskol Arena]] on Luna 2 due, in order, he alleged, to accomodate the huge number of spectators attending the proceedings. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}}
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At the trial's outset, Megatron plead guilty to "Crimes against the Species". {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} However, as the trial progressed and multiple witnesses were called to give testimony, things changed when Starscream took the stand. Starscream's testimony presented Megatron as an incapable leader who was unable to control the Decepticon forces under his command, a powerful brute lacking in the qualities of true leadership who led his followers down an ultimately self-destructive path. His treacherous lieutenant's words struck home, and Megatron stunned the assembled crowd by changing his plea to "not guilty". {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}} Just as his defender, Ultra Magnus, was reading a statement declaring this, the trial was dramatically interrupted by the a small army of Decepticons led by [[Snaptrap (G1)|Snap Trap]] and [[Hun-Gurrr (G1)|Hun-Grr]], who had escaped from the brig on the ''Lost Light''. The invading force attempted to teleport Megatron away to safety, but he refused to escape and the uprising was quickly quelled. During the recess that followed, Optimus confronted Megatron over his true motives: although willing to accept execution, he had, in fact, requested that the trial be held on Luna 2 in order to exploit the moon's different legal system in the event that he felt the trial was unjust. Caused by Starscream's speech to realize that, were he to be executed now, his own legacy would be one only of pain and death, Megatron exploited the loophole by invoking a forgotten law: an individual who had committed sufficiently heinous crimes could request he be judged by the long-lost [[Knights of Cybertron]]. Megatron requested that he be allowed to join the ''Lost Light'' in their search for the Knights and their homeworld of [[Cyberuptopia]], thus ensuring that ''that'' would be his legacy, after which he would submit to whatever punishment was deemed necessary. Optimus agreed on the condition that Megatron read a prepared speech denouncing the Decepticon cause and asking all active Decepticons to stand down. Megatron did so, at great personal pain. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}}
[[File:MTMTE30 cocaptains.jpg|right|thumb|300px|O captain, my co-captain.]]
Megatron was assigned co-captaincy of the ''Lost Light'' alongside Rodimus, who immediately hated the idea and everything about it, leading to a particularly antagonistic relationship between the two. Megatron was permitted only to fuel himself with "[[Fool's Energon]]", which left him substantially weakened. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} Shockwave's machinations had left his internal organs a tortured Gordian knot of space bridge wormholes from which it was impossible to extract his spark; his outward appearance changed between the end of his trial and his co-captaincy, suggesting that his armor was rebuilt around him, or his entire internal structure was transplanted into a new body. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Megatron would later lament that his body did not graft to his spark like past chassis, which he considered a sign of his waning age. {{storylink|Slaughterhouse|Slaughterhouse}} Optimus would see Megatron off on his voyage before he himself headed off to Earth, a meeting Prowl found deeply disturbing. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 1: Hello Cruel World|Hello Cruel World}}.
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The ''Lost Light'' warped back out the Galactic Rim and set off on the trail of [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]], who they considered their best lead on the location of the Knights. Some time into the journey—by which time six months had passed since Shockwave's defeat—Megatron agreed to a therapy session with ship's psychoanalyst Rung. Rung was left somewhat frustrated by the experience, but as an avid bibliophile, availed of the opportunity to inquire about the story behind removed dedication to Terminus from ''Towards Peace''. Megatron offered only the cryptic response that Terminus had taught him not to get attached, but threw Rung a bone by laying out his current thinking on personal history. Departing for his quarters, Megatron found that his door had been heavily grafittied by Whirl - who revealed himself by shooting Megatron in the hand with a crossbow. Attacking Megatron, Whirl reminded him of their shared history, considering their battle inveitable, but Megatron responded by undermining Whirl's entire life with the revelation that the ex-Wrecker's penchant for surviving tough scraps was a falsehood: the second order Megatron had issued upon forming the Decepticons was that under no circumstances was any Decepticon to kill Whirl. As they struggled, Megatron revealed it was the memory of Whirl's actions all those years ago that helped him maintain his violent path, regardless of who tried to save him from it. An outraged Whirl punched Megatron in the stomach, only to find his hand teleported away by the space bridge tangle inside the former Decepticon. This took the fight out of Whirl, and Megatron offered to forget the incident if the graffiti was removed from his wall. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}}

Leaving Whirl behind and heading for the bridge, Megatron received a report that the ''Lost Light'' had crossed paths with a coffin floating in space. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Megatron oversaw the bringing onboard of the coffin and its transport to the med-bay. A short time later, [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailcutter]] snuck into the med-bay on a drunken dare in search of Megatron's "Fool's Energon", unaware of its true nature; caught in the act and believing he had been poisoned by the fuel, he triggered his forcefield, which inadvertently cracked the coffin open. Megatron reprimanded him by permanently engaging his fuel intake moderation chip, ensuring he could never get drunk again, then assigned him the role of Security Director in order to focus his mind. The pair then turned their attention to the opened coffin, which was revealed to contain the body of another Rodimus! {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}
[[File:MTMTE32 i came to hate the person id become.jpg|right|thumb|275px]]
Brief analysis suggested that the body was of Rodimus from the future, but before the matter could be settled, the crew of the ''Lost Light'' were forced to abandon the ship as it suddenly began disappearing around them. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}} The disappearances did not stop there, however: Megatron found himself on the [[Rodpod]] with a score of other 'bots, and when ''they'' then began to vanish, [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] accused Megatron of being responsible. A tense Mexican standoff ensued, which was brought to a surprising end when [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] was discovered to have been hiding on the pod, having secreted himself on the ''Lost Light'' in order to spy on Megatron for Soundwave. The disappearances continued, and Megatron clashed with [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] as he attempted to find a pattern; first, Megatron refused to divulge to the detective whether he had been Forged or Constructed Cold, and then, when Nightbeat realised that only those who were part of the original crew of the ''Lost Light'' were vanishing, Megatron coldly pointed out that his deduction solved nothing. {{storylink|Twenty Plus One}} The weirdness only continued as the remaining crew of the Rodpod—Megatron, Ravage, Nightbeat, [[Skids (G1)|Skids]], [[Nautica]], [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]], and [[Getaway]]—discovered the wreckage of a second ''Lost Light'' orbiting the planet [[Ofsted XVII]]. Investigating the remains and concluding that the second Rodimus had originated on the ship, the team continued to operate on the theory that this duplicate ''Lost Light'' was from the future. Skids accused Megatron of being responsible for the devastation, and, realizing that the recent huge changes he had made in his life left him devoid of any surety in his future actions, Megatron allowed himself and Ravage to be imprisoned until the truth could be determined. Locked in a supply closet with Ravage, Megatron had a heart-to-heart with his angry ex-subordinate, who felt hurt and betrayed by Megatron's change of sides, justifying his decisions and unable to offer Ravage any consolation. When power returned to the ship, the pair discovered that they were not alone in the closet: the dead bodies of Ratchet, [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] were there also. Megatron discovered that their [[brain module]]s had been stuffed in their mouths, calling card of [[Helex (DJD)|Helex]] of the Decepticon Justice Division, and realized that an attack by the DJD was responsible for destroying the ship. When the tea then re-grouped, an even stranger discovery was made: Autobot archivist [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] was found, still alive, the only survivor of the DJD's attack, despite the fact that he had died months beforehand. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}
[[File:MTMTE33 megatron skids right there.jpg|left|thumb|250px]]
Nautica and Nightbeat were able to deduce the whole story: the ''Lost Light'' they were currently aboard was not from the future, but rather, it and its crew were quantum duplicates created in the explosion of the [[quantum generator|quantum engines]] during the ship's original launch from Cybertron two years prior. To make matters worse, the [[quantum foam]] leaking from the engines was threatening to destroy Ofsted XVII, but Megatron had no compunctions about getting to safety and leaving the planet to its fate until Skids called him out, forcing him to face up to the fact that being an Autobot meant more than wearing a badge, and had to be reflected in one's actions. When all other options were exhausted, Megatron admitted that he could use the coding added to his spark to facilitate his old handgun mode to shrink his robot form down, enabling him to safely make it through the foam and deactivate the engines, saving Ofsted XVII, "cancelling out" the duplicate ''Lost Light'', and reinstating their own. The diminutive Rewind joined him in the task; Megatron showed him kindness by holding back knowledge of his counterpart's passing so that he might die happy, but Rewind was mysteriously was ''not'' erased when their task was successfully completed. As they made their way back to the returned ''Lost Light'', Megatron invited Ravage to remain at his side, hoping an up-close view of the DJD's horrors had instilled in him some doubt in the Decepticon cause. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}}

===Pax Cybertonia===
In a vision of the future seen by Ironhide and [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] during the reformatting of Cybertron, fifteen million years hence, Ironhide still believed Megatron to be alive and promised a young Autobot they would defeat him again if he ever returned. {{storylink|Pax Cybertronia (issue)|Pax Cybertronia}} {{storylink|A Better Tomorrow}}
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===''Spotlight: Mirage''===
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{{NoteSLMirage}}
Somewhere, in an unknown time or place, the self-serving mercenary [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] dreamed of Megatron and his Decepticons launching a massive attack on the Autobots. But Mirage knew that to only be a dream; in reality, the Autobots were almost eradicated, and Megatron had hired him to hunt down the last of their number. Megatron was outraged by the mercenary's demand for a majority share in all energon mining operations as payment, but it proved to be fuel well spent, as he soon succeeded in locating Optimus Prime and forcing him to surrender. Megatron demanded the prisoners be executed despite Mirage's promise to spare Autobot lives. Seeing Mirage's hesitation, Megatron appealed to his greed. {{storylink|Spotlight: Mirage}}
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==Notes==
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*In [[Megatron Origin issue 2|''Megatron Origin'' #2]], we see that Megatron's helmet is, in fact, a helmet and not part of his head (at least in his original body). Upon removing his helmet, Megatron then briefly unfurls a crest. The significance of this moment is not explained, but it is briefly revisited in [[Remembrance Day|''More than Meets the Eye'' #14]] when a helmetless Megatron spars with [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]].

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Swerve's

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Combaticons4ever: didn't notice improper spacing in preview

:''Swerve's is a low-down drinking establishment from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:Swerves bar life after the big bang.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"An Autobot walks into a bar..."]]
On board the ''[[Lost Light]]'' there is always a crisis at hand, whether it's an unscheduled [[quantum jump]], a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] loose amongst the crew or [[Overlord (Masterforce)|something horrible]] in the basement. With all this going on, '''Swerve's''', named after [[Swerve (G1)|its proprietor]], is a place for the crew to get away from it all and unwind with a glass of [[engex]].

{{quote|No guns, no swords, no briefcases|Sign at Swerve's|[[Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus]]}}

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
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[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and Swerve found themselves assigned the bar as their quarters after the ''Lost Light'' went into lockdown because of the Sparkeater loose aboard the ship. While Skids concerned himself with escaping, Swerve was delighted to find an engex distillery and decided to live out his and [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]]'s pre-war dream of opening a bar. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}

[[File:Ratchet life after the big bang.jpg|thumb|left|"I'm as jober as a sudge."]]
Sometime before its official opening, [[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]] visited the bar, which was doing a brisk trade. He asked if [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]] or [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] knew about the bar, but Swerve assured him that it would be '''''fine'''''. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} Swerve was still insisting it would be '''''fine''''' later, as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], Skids, [[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]], [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] drank and played "guess the [[Transformation#The noise|transformation noise]]". However when Ultra Magnus stormed into the bar and dragged him away in restraints, Swerve discovered that it was apparently '''''not''''' fine. As if that wasn't enough drama for one day, [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] walked in and shot Pipes at point blank range. {{storylink|Interiors}}

When [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] devised a plan to repair the damaged neural connections in [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s brain by telling him a story, he gathered together [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (and [[Bob (IDW)|Bob]]), [[Siren]] and [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] in the bar but Siren's voice proved too loud for storytelling. He tried again with [[Atomizer]], [[Slapdash (G1)|Slapdash]], [[Sprocket (G1)|Sprocket]], [[Xaaron]] and [[Dipstick]] but not even a bottle of "[[Old Corroder]]" could help them bring the psychiatrist out of his coma. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} Shortly after Rodimus officially re-opened the bar Rewind tried yet again with [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], Ratchet, Chromedome, Skids and [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] and so, with Tailgate and Swerve listening, they told a tale of intrigue and adventure on pre-[[Great War (G1)|war]] [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} After a bottle of "[[Nightmare Fuel]]" and the shocking revelation that Orion Pax became [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] the ship's alarm began to sound and the crew were called to battle stations, but not before Skids managed to provoke a response from Rung by mispronouncing his name. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}

Rodimus attended a "people you'd like to punch" theme night at Swerve's dressed as [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. When [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] and his crew came aboard the ''Lost Light'', Ratchet organised a welcoming party at Swerve's. {{storylink|Little Victories}} At some point, [[Cyclonus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Cyclonus]] had a flashback to his time in the [[Dead Universe]] in the bar, and Whirl also went on a bit of a rampage some night after drinking one too many [[Berzerker Button]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}

Following Rodimus's refusal to take Swerve to the recently rediscovered [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], pointing out that he spent all his time on board the ''Lost Light'' being a bartender rather than a metallurgist, Swerve decided to close the bar and was in the process of packing it up when he was surprised by the sudden appearance of a [[Legislator]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} Despite Swerve pointing out the bar's policy on dangerous weapons, the giant golden robot merely quoted "seventeen twenty-one" at him and proceeded to shoot up the place with his enormous multi-revolving-barrelled machine gun. In response, Swerve dived behind the bar and activated the security systems that [[Brainstorm]] had installed for him.

The Legislator was stunned by the resulting volley of fire and Swerve did not hesitate to follow up his advantage by whipping out his ''[[My First Blaster]]''™, another gift from Brainstorm, announcing that he was excluding someone from his premises for the first time in his career and blasting the "[[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]] copycat" out of the bar. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}

Upon returning from Luna 1 where he discovered a cure for [[cybercrosis]] and saved Tailgate's life, Swerve was able to reconcile being both a metallurgist ''and'' a bartender and decided to re-open the bar. {{storylink|The Sound of Breaking Glass}} The grand reopening was well attended, though Rodimus was not present. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}} Swerve was later delighted when Rodimus held an informal meeting with Orion Pax and Ultra Magnus in his bar, going so far as to take a picture for posterity. {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}}

Back on the returned ''Lost Light'', after an unfortunate run-in with quantum mechanics came to an end, Brainstorm squeezed his way through the crowd of revellers at Swerve's, sitting down to next to Atomizer. Over Atomizer's protests, Brainstorm broke the rules of the bar by undoing the clasps on his briefcase and opening it... and everyone in the bar except him suddenly collapsed. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken}}

==Notes==
*In "[[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things]]" Swerve mentions that he and Blurr used to talk about opening a bar. Though this later proves to be [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|something of an exaggeration]] on his part, in [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s concurrent title ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' Blurr has reopened [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]].
*[[James Roberts]] compares the bar to bars and "the kitchen" in soap operas, where most of the drama will stereotypically happen. [[Alex Milne]] designed the bar with a large table (requested in script) that could retract and be replaced with smaller tables, and added in a serving plate with energon goodies as well as drinks: "nice, relaxed, casual atmosphere... kind of like what they were used to in the olden days".<ref>[http://theunderbase.libsyn.com/the-underbase-deconstructs-shadowplay "The Underbase Podcast Deconstructs Shadowplay"], 01:14:15 - 01:16:30</ref>

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Swerve's

2014-09-19T14:02:10Z

Combaticons4ever: Updated with slaughterhouse #2: the road not taken info

:''Swerve's is a low-down drinking establishment from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:Swerves bar life after the big bang.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"An Autobot walks into a bar..."]]
On board the ''[[Lost Light]]'' there is always a crisis at hand, whether it's an unscheduled [[quantum jump]], a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] loose amongst the crew or [[Overlord (Masterforce)|something horrible]] in the basement. With all this going on, '''Swerve's''', named after [[Swerve (G1)|its proprietor]], is a place for the crew to get away from it all and unwind with a glass of [[engex]].

{{quote|No guns, no swords, no briefcases|Sign at Swerve's|[[Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus]]}}

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
{{ongoing}}
[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and Swerve found themselves assigned the bar as their quarters after the ''Lost Light'' went into lockdown because of the Sparkeater loose aboard the ship. While Skids concerned himself with escaping, Swerve was delighted to find an engex distillery and decided to live out his and [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]]'s pre-war dream of opening a bar. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}

[[File:Ratchet life after the big bang.jpg|thumb|left|"I'm as jober as a sudge."]]
Sometime before its official opening, [[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]] visited the bar, which was doing a brisk trade. He asked if [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]] or [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] knew about the bar, but Swerve assured him that it would be '''''fine'''''. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} Swerve was still insisting it would be '''''fine''''' later, as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], Skids, [[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]], [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] drank and played "guess the [[Transformation#The noise|transformation noise]]". However when Ultra Magnus stormed into the bar and dragged him away in restraints, Swerve discovered that it was apparently '''''not''''' fine. As if that wasn't enough drama for one day, [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] walked in and shot Pipes at point blank range. {{storylink|Interiors}}

When [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] devised a plan to repair the damaged neural connections in [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s brain by telling him a story, he gathered together [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (and [[Bob (IDW)|Bob]]), [[Siren]] and [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] in the bar but Siren's voice proved too loud for storytelling. He tried again with [[Atomizer]], [[Slapdash (G1)|Slapdash]], [[Sprocket (G1)|Sprocket]], [[Xaaron]] and [[Dipstick]] but not even a bottle of "[[Old Corroder]]" could help them bring the psychiatrist out of his coma. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} Shortly after Rodimus officially re-opened the bar Rewind tried yet again with [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], Ratchet, Chromedome, Skids and [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] and so, with Tailgate and Swerve listening, they told a tale of intrigue and adventure on pre-[[Great War (G1)|war]] [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} After a bottle of "[[Nightmare Fuel]]" and the shocking revelation that Orion Pax became [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] the ship's alarm began to sound and the crew were called to battle stations, but not before Skids managed to provoke a response from Rung by mispronouncing his name. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}

Rodimus attended a "people you'd like to punch" theme night at Swerve's dressed as [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. When [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] and his crew came aboard the ''Lost Light'', Ratchet organised a welcoming party at Swerve's. {{storylink|Little Victories}} At some point, [[Cyclonus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Cyclonus]] had a flashback to his time in the [[Dead Universe]] in the bar, and Whirl also went on a bit of a rampage some night after drinking one too many [[Berzerker Button]]s. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}

Following Rodimus's refusal to take Swerve to the recently rediscovered [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], pointing out that he spent all his time on board the ''Lost Light'' being a bartender rather than a metallurgist, Swerve decided to close the bar and was in the process of packing it up when he was surprised by the sudden appearance of a [[Legislator]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}} Despite Swerve pointing out the bar's policy on dangerous weapons, the giant golden robot merely quoted "seventeen twenty-one" at him and proceeded to shoot up the place with his enormous multi-revolving-barrelled machine gun. In response, Swerve dived behind the bar and activated the security systems that [[Brainstorm]] had installed for him.

The Legislator was stunned by the resulting volley of fire and Swerve did not hesitate to follow up his advantage by whipping out his ''[[My First Blaster]]''™, another gift from Brainstorm, announcing that he was excluding someone from his premises for the first time in his career and blasting the "[[Guardian (Marvel)|Guardian]] copycat" out of the bar. {{storylink|Remain in Light 2 of 5: House of Ambus|House of Ambus}}

Upon returning from Luna 1 where he discovered a cure for [[cybercrosis]] and saved Tailgate's life, Swerve was able to reconcile being both a metallurgist ''and'' a bartender and decided to re-open the bar. {{storylink|The Sound of Breaking Glass}} The grand reopening was well attended, though Rodimus was not present. {{storylink|Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|This Calamitous Life}} Swerve was later delighted when Rodimus held an informal meeting with Orion Pax and Ultra Magnus in his bar, going so far as to take a picture for posterity. {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}}

Back on the returned ''Lost Light''after an unfortunate run-in with quantum mechanics came to an end, Brainstorm squeezed his way through the crowd of revellers at Swerve's, sitting down to next to [[Atomizer]]. Over Atomizer's protests, Brainstorm broke the rules of the bar by undoing the clasps on his briefcase and opening it... and everyone in the bar except him suddenly collapsed. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken}}

==Notes==
*In "[[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things]]" Swerve mentions that he and Blurr used to talk about opening a bar. Though this later proves to be [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|something of an exaggeration]] on his part, in [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s concurrent title ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' Blurr has reopened [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]].
*[[James Roberts]] compares the bar to bars and "the kitchen" in soap operas, where most of the drama will stereotypically happen. [[Alex Milne]] designed the bar with a large table (requested in script) that could retract and be replaced with smaller tables, and added in a serving plate with energon goodies as well as drinks: "nice, relaxed, casual atmosphere... kind of like what they were used to in the olden days".<ref>[http://theunderbase.libsyn.com/the-underbase-deconstructs-shadowplay "The Underbase Podcast Deconstructs Shadowplay"], 01:14:15 - 01:16:30</ref>

==Footnotes==
<references />

[[Category:Bars]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 businesses]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 locations]]

Talk:Slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken

2014-09-18T11:36:37Z

Combaticons4ever:

should we mark Brainstorm down as a Decpticon? [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] ([[User talk:Combaticons4ever|talk]]) 11:38, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
:That's a huge spoiler. When folks can get spoiled on the big thing from the issue just from edit descriptions, THAT'S BAD.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:01, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
::I'm not really sure what you're arguing against. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:22, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
:::Saying huge spoilers such as they'll pop up in the "recent changes" page as part of the edit descriptions is thing many folks here try to avoid. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 14:25, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
::::If you're talking about my edit summary, I specifically didn't include any spoilers. If you're just speaking in general, then I agree and try to do the same. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:31, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
:::::Check out the history for ''this'' page (the talk page in particular), particularly the earliest entry. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] ([[User talk:Andrusi|talk]]) 16:40, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
::::::Whoops. Sorry....should have probably made filler text so that wouldn't show on the history....[[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] ([[User talk:Combaticons4ever|talk]]) 07:36, 18 September 2014 (EDT)

== a possible Alien reference? ==

It might just be me, but doesn't the thing that Nautica holds in her hand while they search for the mass displacement gun in Brainstorm's lab look like a mechanical version of a facehugger? - [[User:Silver|Silvery]] ([[User talk:Silver|talk]]) 16:31, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
:It's the [[cyberwraith]] that figured into Dark Cybertron. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:46, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
::Oh, right. I don't remember the Dark Cybertron plot that well. It does sort of look like a facehugger, though. - [[User:Silver|Silvery]] ([[User talk:Silver|talk]]) 18:19, 17 September 2014 (EDT)

==Error?==
Rewind's magno-clamps disappear between panels. It's hard to imagine it's not deliberate given the composition (not to mention the recent "things disappearing" theme) but sticks out. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 20:23, 17 September 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken

2014-09-17T15:38:50Z

Combaticons4ever: Created page with "should we mark Brainstorm down as a Decpticon? ~~~~"

should we mark Brainstorm down as a Decpticon? [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] ([[User talk:Combaticons4ever|talk]]) 11:38, 17 September 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Lost Light

2014-09-10T17:09:43Z

Combaticons4ever: /* Lots of notes */ new section

I moved Whirl to "added crew", since he wasn't supposed to be onboard. (On the summary, I intended to attach the link of issue 1, but did issue 2 by mistake) [[User:Thunderweb|Thunderweb]] 08:20, 30 May 2012 (EDT)
==Dogfight==
Dogfight is listed under both crew at launch and crew post-takeoff. Has it been confirmed either way? [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 15:15, 6 April 2013 (EDT)

==Slaughterhouse==
In the latest issue of MTMTE, we see a time-displaced version of the ''Lost Light'', with all of its crew (excluding Rewind) dead. How do we classify these characters, given the unique circumstances of their deaths?--[[User:DeathbotTheGreat|DeathbotTheGreat]] ([[User talk:DeathbotTheGreat|talk]]) 22:01, 27 August 2014 (EDT)

== Lots of notes ==

-Whirl technically joined the crew before the launch by a slight margin, though he was half dead and unconscious. same with tailgate.
-Whirl, Swerve, Perceptor, Mainframe, and Rung are killed in a flashback sequence in slaughterhouse. I think they should be marked with asterisks.
-rewind should have some indicator that he came back to life in slaughterhouse.

Talk:Slaughterhouse

2014-09-10T16:13:07Z

Combaticons4ever: /* The slaughter */ new section

Is the lack of capitalization in the title purposeful? [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] ([[User talk:Combaticons4ever|talk]]) 11:30, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
:It's intentional. Both the issue itself and Twitter posts by Roberts give the title in all lower-case. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 11:37, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
::I'd have considered it stylization if Roberts's Twitter posts hadn't adhered to it. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 11:40, 27 August 2014 (EDT)

== page 14 ==

So, what's up with the panel order on page 14? Am I to assume it is intentional? - [[User:Silver|Silvery]] ([[User talk:Silver|talk]]) 12:41, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
:Brainstorm's of think effect opening I it's Nightbeat briefcase. the --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 12:59, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
::Haha, okay. I had a moment of doubt whether it was another of Brainstorm's ideas or just a misprint. -- [[User:Silver|Silvery]] ([[User talk:Silver|talk]]) 12:44, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
:::I don't think it's possible to print the panels on a single page out of order. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 12:52, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
::::The floor numbers providing a very easy method of figuring out the right order make it pretty obvious it's intentional. It's like when people complained about the 'error' in Infiltration where the dialogue was washed out that just coincidentally happened to be right after Thundercracker used a sonic boom attack. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] ([[User talk:Cattleprod|talk]]) 16:09, 29 August 2014 (EDT)

== The slaughter ==

on the page with the DJD killing everyone, I'm pretty sure Rung is also being owned by Helex, instead of just
Mainframe

Decepticon Justice Division

2014-09-09T18:14:51Z

Combaticons4ever: Adding new image from "slaughterhouse." It is centered because I think centering currently keeps the format from being compromised. I believe the caption follows the rules of the wiki, but if someone could confirm that, it would be appreciated.

{{factions|decepticon}}
:''The Decepticon Justice Division is a group from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:Mtmte7 djd.jpg|thumb|upright=2.8|So it's just "Or Death" then?]]

The '''Decepticon Justice Division''' is a division that handles justice. And by justice, we mean "unmarked graves". Traitors and deserters to the [[Decepticon]] cause are targeted by these feared enforcers of [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron's]] will. If the rumors are to be believed they ''always'' find their quarry and execute them in the messiest fashion possible to make an example of them. Some Decepticons would rather go offline than end up on their [[The List|hit list]]. Their usual killing fields are in the proximity of the planet [[Messatine]], and they pursue targets in their spaceship the ''[[Peaceful Tyranny]]''. The group's lineup changes, but its five members always use the same five code-names: those of the [[Fall of the First Five Cities|the first five cities]] to fall to the Decepticons. Many members are known to have [[alternate mode|altmode]]s which incorporate torture devices.

Known members include:
*[[Helex (DJD)|Helex]]
*[[Kaon (DJD)|Kaon]]
*[[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]] (leader)
*[[Tesarus (DJD)|Tesarus]]
*[[Vos (DJD)|Vos]]

{{quote|A free-roaming '''kill squad''': five '''professional sadists''' who like nothing more than to hack, stab and shoot Decepticons who step out of line. But hey, don't worry, because they just '''''love''''' to kill Autobots too.|[[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] on the Decepticon Justice Division|"[[slaughterhouse]]"}}

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
The late and unlamented [[Crosscut (Decepticon)|Crosscut]] was often mistaken for a Justice Division man, which he used to his advantage. {{storylink|The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Crosscut's Squadron X profile}}

[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] once saw the Justice Division doing its dirty work. The shock rendered him speechless for six months, which was quite a feat for him. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}}

One of the previous members of the D.J.D. had hooks for hands and feet. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}

Unknown to the Decepticons, the [[Autobot]]s had a [[Agent 113|mole]] within the Justice Division who leaked information to them. Usually this information would be the turncoats and traitors that the Division was hunting down, whom the Autobots could protect from [[death|justice]] in return for information. It was this agent that informed [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] and the [[Wrecker]]s that any attempt to get near [[Garrus-9]] was blown out of the sky with extreme prejudice. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 1}} {{storylink|Bullets}}

In order to ensure the safety of the Autobot medical facility of [[Delphi]] on the planet [[Messatine]], deep within D.J.D. territory, the facility's chief medical officer [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]] entered into a deal with the Division's leader. In return for their leaving Delphi be, Pharma would provide the leader with a constant supply of fresh [[transformation cog]]s from Delphi's dead, in order to feed his addiction to changing shape that caused him to constantly burn through cogs. With the monthly quota of cogs constantly rising, Pharma was forced into drastic action, seeking to escape the deal by shutting down the facility without implicating himself. To this end, he hired Decepticon nobodies [[Sonic (G1)|Sonic]] and [[Boom]] to pose as [[Militant Monoform Movement|Monoformers]] and seek asylum at Delphi, professing to be on the run from the D.J.D. Once inside, they detonated a viral soundbomb that infected Delphi with a corrosive plague that would be blamed on D.J.D. chemical warfare. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}}

The D.J.D. caught up with [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] and brutally tortured him to death after he sold his services to the Autobots. Despite popular conceptions, Tarn declared the war wasn't over until Megatron personally ''said'' it was over. Kaon then alerted Tarn to a signal on the planet Clemency from the undetonated [[K-Class]] named [[Fulcrum (G1)|Fulcrum]]. When they arrived Tarn gave Fulcrum's companions fifteen minutes to give him up and watch him die, or be killed themselves. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}}

The so-called [[Scavenger (group)|Scavengers]] chose to fight, turning an incidental captive [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] against Tarn and the others. The initial surprise wore off, though, and the Scavengers got brutalized. Tesarus ground up [[Flywheels]] in his chest compartment, while Vos made [[Krok (G1)|Krok]] "wear his face". Even a [[Cybernought]] barely helped improve their odds. The remaining hapless Decepticons only survived because Kaon detected [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]'s spark signature. Tarn ordered the D.J.D. off to hunt for bigger fish, but not before warning the surviving Scavengers that their names had all been added to the List. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}

{{spoiler|slaughterhouse|September 26th}}
The D.J.D. would later catch up with an alternate Lost Light in their search for Overlord and made short work of the crew before reaching the rogue Phase Sixer in his slow cell beneath the ship and sawing off his head. The group, however, failed to kill one member of the crew — [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]. {{storylink|slaughterhouse}}
[[File:Slaughterhouse mtmte -32 djd attack.jpg|thumb|220px|center|And the fandom collectively wept. Whether it was because they had [[spark|souls]] or because they loved watching the DJD kill people has yet to be determined.]]‎
==Trivia==
*In an early plan for "[[Chaos Theory Part 1|Chaos Theory]]", the D.J.D. were going to attack.<ref>[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/t14540/ Moonbase2's second interview with James Roberts - 01:33:27 to 01:35:00]</ref>
*[[James Roberts]] elaborated that when a D.J.D. member dies, his replacement takes his name.<ref>[http://boards.idwpublishing.com/3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12651&start=15 IDW Forums James Roberts Q&A]</ref>
==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 subgroups]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Transformer culture]]
[[Category:Law enforcement]]

User:Combaticons4ever

2014-09-09T17:50:47Z

Combaticons4ever: More plating and Energon for my user page

{{factions|autobot|decepticon|sgDecepticon|unicron|maximal|predacon|vehicon}}

Combaticons4ever is an unknown yet powerful entity. He presides over the dimension Pines 6251.3807. In this dimension, he has been gathering warriors for eons. The eldest of these is the wise and semi-pacifistic [[Rattrap]], as he predated even the universal singularities present in this dimension. Combaticons4ever watches this dimension carefully, altering it at certain, strangely predefined times, named by Rattrap as "Laundry Days." In this dimension, allegiances seem to change daily, and for no reason at all. Memory loss is not uncommon. Strange additional [[alt mode]]s appear out of no where. New combatants arrive at any given moment. Only two things are certain: no combatant leaves the dimension, and [[Combaticons]] tend to be involved in most fights. They often win. Even against [[Primus]].

==IDW Generation 1 Continuity==
[[File:Slaughterhouse mtmte -32 djd attack.jpg|thumb|440px|center|5 of the people on the top 100 favorites list murdering 74 of the other favorites. And there was much sorrow.]]‎

Combaticons4ever has taken a particular liking to this universe, and has obtained recordings of many of the major events. Recently, his home dimension shook as Combaticons4ever helplessly watched the [[Lost Light]] crew be annihilated by the laws of quantum mechanics and the [[DJD]], though he was greatly joyed to see [[Rewind (G1)#IDW_Generation_1_Continuity|Rewind]] alive.

==Notes==

Combaticons4ever [[special:contributions/combaticons4ever|sometimes]] edits the wiki.

User talk:Jalaguy

2014-09-09T12:56:12Z

Combaticons4ever: /* Thanks */ new section

==Prime writers==
I hope I'm not bothering but, who is going to write the new episodes in TFP? [[User:Joybells|Joybells]] 09:57, 15 October 2012 (EDT)Joybells
:In response to your question, we only find out the writers for specific epiodes of Transformers Prime once the episodes air, so there's no way of predicting upcoming writers. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 12:55, 15 October 2012 (EDT) Duplicated from [[User talk: Joybells]]
Thanks for helping me with that question though. I'll just wait.[[User:Joybells|Joybells]] 23:27, 15 October 2012 (EDT)Joybells

==Constructicon shovel==
Hi, welcome to TFWiki. Whilst your enthusiasm is appreciated, step by step transformation images isn't something we do, not least because it'd clutter up pages. Additonally, when uploading images, please use JPEGs instead of PNGs, as they take up less space.[[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 12:44, 8 December 2012 (EST) Duplicated from [[User talk: Constructifan]]
:I understand, but I made more images of the Constructicon shovel from TF2 ROTF and I planned to upload them to that page.--[[User:Constructifan|Constructifan]] 12:48, 8 December 2012 (EST)
:Ok, I'll try my best. :)--[[User:Constructifan|Constructifan]] 12:49, 8 December 2012 (EST)

Now what? I just started adding jpg images and you go ahead and take them off. (sigh) Why?--[[User:Constructifan|Constructifan]] 13:49, 8 December 2012 (EST)
:What I said about the wiki not doing anything like step-by-step transformations still stands. With the images, I meant for future reference. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:14, 8 December 2012 (EST)

== Predacon bird ==

Do you know anything of the "Predacon bird"? Where can I find a picture of it?[[User:Transfan 1992|Transfan 1992]] 19:10, 11 December 2012 (EST)
:Beyond advising searching the internet for the Car Robot episode in question, I'm afraid I can't help. Sorry. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 19:36, 11 December 2012 (EST)

== Maintenance ==

Hey, if they're a new user who's spamming right away, feel free to block them and delete all of their content. We can always revert if it was a mistake, and the rest of us play a zero-tolerance game with the spammers. Thanks for your help!--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 15:48, 18 January 2013 (EST)
:I can blank their spam pages, sure, but I can't block them, don't have sysops... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:53, 18 January 2013 (EST)
::Well then, keep it up! Your efforts keep this wiki clean! Thank you!--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 16:43, 18 January 2013 (EST)

== Ghosts of Yesterday ==

I did, I just didn't see any indication that disagreement had formed in the meantime. What did I miss?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:20, 28 May 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't around back then, but it seems wiki policy on article names has changed in the meantime. I vaaaaaguely recall there being a big 'add Transformers back into titles' initiative from a while back. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 16:25, 28 May 2013 (EDT)
::Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:31, 28 May 2013 (EDT)
:::[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community_Portal/Archive51#When to omit .22Transformers.22 from an article title|Here]] and [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive52#.22Transformers: .22|here]]. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:59, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

== Thanks ==

I know I uploaded an image with an unusual file name. I saw the picture and decided to save it on my computer. Then I realized that the name had numbers and I didn't change the it. My mistake. I'm sorry. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 08:01, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

== Edit summaries ==

Just to point out... "Ditto" is fine if you're looking at Recentchanges on the day the edit's made (and you don't have the "Enhanced" RC turned on), but look at the history of the individual page: http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Darksteel_(Prime)&action=history - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 14:34, 19 July 2013 (EDT)
:Good point, thanks. I'll keep it in mind in the future. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:36, 19 July 2013 (EDT)

==Meansor in Shockpoint==
Right, I know the issue is set a couple AFTER Menasor's creation, however surely they still shouldn't have holograms of him because they left before he was made and so, assuming nobody contacted them, they should be oblivious to the happenings on earth. {{unsigned|Drift1998}}
:Well, there's no reason ''to'' assume that they weren't in contact with any of the Decepticons on Earth. And if making an assumption creates an error, then it probably isn't a correct assumption. Megatron's internal monologue in #7 even seems to indicate that he's aware of the Autobots allying themselves with humans, so there's that, too. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 04:45, 13 October 2013 (EDT)
::It's also a recent addition to continuity and possibly the product of an error, but things now suggest that Skywarp made it from Eath to the asteroid, so he could have brought that info with him too. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 06:25, 13 October 2013 (EDT)

== Tense ==

I noticed that while editing, and I did try to keep it in past tense. Apparently it wasn't quite enough.

-[[User:Toa 95|Toa 95]] ([[User talk:Toa 95|talk]])

==Understandable==
After editing the entire Beast Hunters and you editing it to chop a part of (the reception section), I read the file history and understand what you are going with, so thus perhaps one day when the figures are officially released then we'll talk about the reception proper (besides, I did it after analyzing the forms and other reviewers and thus coming to conclusion that it had to be done).

Go(toby070)bots.

==Sorry==
My apologies for not being a very productive member of this community lately, I guess I got a little carried away. Just wanted you to know. Thank you, though, because I, myself was beggining to consider how much I could have been contributing rather than goofing off. Also, I'm kind of new to the whole chat thing, so if I'm doing it wrong I apologize (again)-[[User:WaffleZ|WaffleZ]], 7:08, June 30, 2014
:No worries, everyone's new at some point, and it's easy to get carried away having fun with captions. Happy editing! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:23, 1 July 2014 (EDT)

==Response==
While I'll leave the discussion on what is proper article introduction for another day, and article should not have a "question and answer" sentence arrangement in them either.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 16:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

==Sorry==
Im just getting used to this I don't mean to hurt you or anything I just wanna express my ideas of what should be wrote sorry hope you respond. The caption's thing,NEVER AGAIN WITH THE GOOFY STUFF JUST beginning middle end plot details conclusion.P.S im just new here
[[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 19:48(BST),23/07/14
:That's fine. Just remember that this TFwiki.net, not funnyTFcaptions.net. Writing funny captions is a bonus perk to make factual editing more entertaining, not an ''alternative'' to factual editing. Happy editing! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:14, 23 July 2014 (EDT)

==Double User Pic==
Thank you for telling me that, I wanted to combine them into one photo but I don't how. Would you happen to know how to? --[[User:TheHappyTruckShunter|TheHappyTruckShunter]] ([[User talk:TheHappyTruckShunter|talk]]) 20:24, 12 August 2014 (EDT)
:If you have access to Microsoft PowerPoint, a quick method is to open a new presentation, paste the two photos in and arrange them next to each other, select both images at once by holding CTRL and clicking them both, and then finally right-clicking them and choosing 'Save as picture'. Otherwise, you can use a basic image editor like MS Paint - drag the corner handle to make the white image area really big, paste in the photos and arrange them, and then drag the image area smaller again to fit around them before saving. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 03:47, 13 August 2014 (EDT)

:Thank you so much! Yes, I do have access to Microsoft PowerPoint, and I tried your advice. It worked! Thank You.
P.S: Remember my edits on "Dinobot (AOE)"? I have the links of the Slash, Slog, and Snarl's concept art. I'll post them in about half an hour or two. --[[User:TheHappyTruckShunter|TheHappyTruckShunter]] ([[User talk:TheHappyTruckShunter|talk]]) 20:09, 13 August 2014 (EDT)

==Camrips==
Thanks for clarifying the issue of camrips. However, when I checked up on the images guidelines it seems a bit unclear about cam rips. Should a statement about these cam rips be added? Thanks. Also this applies even for imageless characters, right? [[User:Optimus Prime (Convoy)|Optimus Prime (Convoy)]] ([[User talk:Optimus Prime (Convoy)|talk]]) 08:59, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
:Yeah, the wiki avoids anything illegal (camrips, stolen pre-release toy samples, etc.) regardless of circumstances. I'll update the image policy a little for clarification. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 09:15, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
Thanks a lot! [[User:Optimus Prime (Convoy)|Optimus Prime (Convoy)]] ([[User talk:Optimus Prime (Convoy)|talk]]) 09:27, 27 August 2014 (EDT)

== Help please? ==

Can you use your mod powers to fix StarWars Jedi's whole mess of movements? I can't work them.

Also Walky said no to the Universe thing, so could you move it back to (Universe 2008)? I can't get it working. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 08:47, 30 August 2014 (EDT)
:SWJ's stuff is sorted, but what specific articles are we talking about with regards to (Universe 2008)? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 08:56, 30 August 2014 (EDT)
::He means the Universe Mini-Con, but that's already at a page that actually takes account of Willis's... objection. The discussion was with respect to ''further'' moves. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 08:59, 30 August 2014 (EDT)
:::It's she. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:00, 30 August 2014 (EDT)
:::Plus Walky basically owns this site, so if he says we're not doing it, we're not doing it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:04, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

== Micro Fun-Pack comics. ==

Do you have all of these? I saw you did Spotlight: Shockwave's, and wondered. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:52, 30 August 2014 (EDT)
:Drift is actually the only one I own, but the back of the poster shows you the stickers, etc. for all the other packs. The only stuff I don't know is the covers in the back of the Optimus and 'Bee books (I found them out for Grimlock by asking around). [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 17:58, 30 August 2014 (EDT)

== Question on Yuki Ohshima ==

I'm sorry if this was already declared somewhere and I didn't see it, but why can't <strike>pervert</strike> be used on the page? Is that too snarky? I would think considering the content of Kiss Players that would be acceptable.[[User:1MegaMan10|1MegaMan10]] ([[User talk:1MegaMan10|talk]]) 12:48, 1 September 2014 (EDT)
:Firstly, it's possible to overdo it - the wiki's already swimming in 'lololol Kiss Players is peverted' jokes - and secondly, we ask that new users spend time making factual edits before adding captions/humour, to avoid this place becoming TFjokes.net rather than TFwiki.net. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:07, 1 September 2014 (EDT)
::Okay, I understand. I really just signed up to revert to that old joke I saw years ago. If it's unacceptable, eh whatevs. I really don't do a good job adding anything ever, so I'll just lurk. Thanks for the work you put into this fantastic wiki.[[User:1MegaMan10|1MegaMan10]] ([[User talk:1MegaMan10|talk]]) 13:29, 1 September 2014 (EDT)
On an unrelated note. Is there a way to change my username/delete my account?[[User:1MegaMan10|1MegaMan10]] ([[User talk:1MegaMan10|talk]]) 14:29, 1 September 2014 (EDT)
:I'm afraid I'm not very clued up on the technical end of wiki things. You might try asking one of the other admins, like [[User:Abates]]. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 15:20, 1 September 2014 (EDT)

== Thanks ==

Thanks for fixing the image I added :) [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] ([[User talk:Combaticons4ever|talk]]) 08:56, 9 September 2014 (EDT)

Slaughterhouse

2014-09-09T12:32:18Z

Combaticons4ever: Added the flashback/imagination sequence of the DJD attack

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|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[August 27]], [[2014]]
|coverdate=August 2014
|written by=[[James Roberts]]
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'''Horrors await the small group of Autobots as they explore the wreckage of the ''Lost Light'', but all is not as it appears...'''

==Synopsis==

Overcoming their shock at the sight of the ruined ''[[Lost Light]]'', torn into three chunks and bleeding quantum foam, the remaining crew of the [[Rodpod]] conclude that, somehow, this is the time-displaced future version of the ship from which the coffin containing [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]]'s dead body originated. Setting down inside the wreckage to investigate, they soon realise that their impromptu landing pad appears to be [[Swerve's]], only it seems to have been refashioned as a playhouse, rather than a bar; a poster for a showing of "Information Creep", the play [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] is currently working on, seems to confirm that the ship is from the future. [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] brings out [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] to help in sniffing out the crew, though no-one is particularly pleased to see the cat-bot allowed to roam free. [[Nautica]] tries to be friendly, but makes the cardinal mistake of treating Ravage like a pet, and, suitably chastized by a swipe of his claws, decides to head off with [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] to fix the [[quantum generator]]s and stop the foam leakage. Presently, Ravage locates [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]]—or rather, [[Minimus Ambus]], slaughtered and stripped of the [[Magnus Armor]] post-mortem, which lies nearby. [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] identifies the fatal blast-wound in Ambus's side as having been caused by a [[fusion cannon]], and immediately turns on Megatron; the former Decepticon retorts that his fusion cannon was destroyed following his change of allegiance, and that furthermore, he had no knowledge of Minimus Ambus within the armor. But as Skids points out, as the ship is from their future, he now ''does'' possess that knowledge and could potentially act on it in that future. Shaken, Megatron realizes that it is actually not impossible for him to be responsible for the death and devastation, and suggests that he and Ravage be locked up until more answers are forthcoming.

In another section of the ship, Nightbeat and Nautica make their way to the engine rooms, talking about the strangeness of recent events. Recalling the appearance of the deceased [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]'s "data ghost" leads Nightbeat to ask Nautica about her own romantic past, and from there to the topic of pair-bonding in general on [[Caminus]]; the engineer is amused by his bluntness, and asks the same questions of him. As they enter an elevator, extra gizmos added to Nautica's wrench by [[Brainstorm]] deliver a report on the local surroundings, identifying local space as "worn down", with many signs of extensive recent [[transwarp|teleportation activity]]. At that point, Nautica's foot bumps into something on the floor... ''Brainstorm's [[briefcase]].''

Locked in a cupboard together, an angry Ravage attacks Megatron, accusing him of betrayal and hoping that [[shadowplay]] is responsible for his change of heart, which Megatron denies. Ravage tells him that [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] is now in charge of the Decepticons, but that he will be abandoned immediately if Megatron but gives the word; Megatron despairs over the toxicity of Decepticon loyalty, and correctly deduces that Ravage was sent to spy on him by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], and that he was responsible for the attempted jailbreak during his trial. In response to Ravage's allegation that Megatron is unsure of his identity for the first time in his life, Megatron explains that his change of heart was motivated by the fact that, during his last talk with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] prior to the [[Chaos (IDW)|Chaos event]], he had spoken harsh words that he had intended only to wound Prime... only to realize that he ''believed'' them, and that he hated the person he had become. Ravage claims that in years to come, Megatron will laugh at this notion, but Megatron admits to feeling old, and believes that the Megatron he once was is dead. Before the conversation can go any deeper, the lights flick on, repaired by the other Autobots... illuminating the dead bodies of [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] in the cupboard's corner! Examining the bodies, Megatron finds their [[brain module]]s torn out and stuffed into their mouths, which gives him all the information he needs to identify the murderers...

Nightbeat opens Brainstorm's briefcase, only to find it empty, leading him and Nautica to theorize everything from invisible gas to a cloaking device to outright theft to explain the lack of contents... unaware that local space/time has begun warping around them, causing their conversation to occur out of sequence. The elevator opens to a gruesome sight: [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'s dead body, impaled on a bulkhead! But Nightbeat's attention is drawn by a greater mystery: a flight of stairs leading to a lower level, when they are already supposed to be on the lowest deck of the ship.

Skids and [[Getaway]] continue their exploration of the ship, talking about Megatron and their changing attitude toward him as they go. They catch up to Riptide just as he has made an horrific discovery—a room full of corpses, every one in [[alternate mode]], with two puncture holes in each of them. Reminded of the practice of [[cerebral dowsing]]—the ability to deduce the location of a Transformer's brain module while they are in alt mode—Skids realizes that all the dead have been shot in the "head", and that the secondary holes were bored in order to remove their [[transformation cog]]s. Just as Skids is getting to grips with this discovery, Nightbeat contacts him over the comm, and reveals that they have found [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]'s dead body in the [[slow cell]] beneath the ship. Megatron then joins the call, and everyone pools their knowledge and realizes they have come to the same conclusion: the ''Lost Light'' has been attacked by the [[Decepticon Justice Division]].

[[File:Slaughterhouse mtmte -32 djd attack.jpg|thumb|The DJD attack in a flashback/imagination sequence]]‎

Everyone regroups in Swerve's and prepares to depart with all due haste, though first, they have to bring the befuddled Nautica up to speed: the brain modules in the corpse mouths were the work of [[Helex (DJD)|Helex]], while the fusion cannon that slew Magnus belonged to [[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]], who also removed the transformation cogs of the dead to feed his transformation addiction. Megatron believes the DJD are acting in response to his denouncement of the Decepticon cause, but Nightbeat points out that evidence suggests that the ship is ''not'' simply from the future: Overlord and the cell containing were jettisoned from the ship some time in the past, and should not ''be'' there any more, suggesting that past events somehow played out differently on this version of the ship. A surge of energy and tremor caused by the ship's reaction to the quantum foam rocks the team, but Nautica refuses to leave as they haven't finished searching for survivors. Megatron is certain that the DJD will have left none... until Ravage picks up a new scent, and, huddled within the Magnus Armor... Megatron finds the still-living form of Rewind.

==Featured characters==
(Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks. Those who appear in the present as corpses are marked with asterisks.) 
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*[[Nautica]] (1)
*[[Getaway]] (2)
*[[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] (3)
*[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] (4)
*[[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] (5)
*[[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] (6)
*[[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] (poster, 7)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]]* (9)
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*''[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]'' (10)
*''[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]]'' (11)
*[[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]]* (12)
*[[Drift (G1)|Drift]]* (13)
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]]* (14)
*[[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]* (15)
*[[Blades (G1)|Blades]]* (16)
*[[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]]* (17)
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*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]* (18)
*[[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]* (19)
*[[Rad]]* (20)
*[[Powerflash]]* (21)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailcutter]]* (22)
*[[Waverider]]* (23)
*[[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]* (24)
*[[Strafe (G1)|Strafe]]* (25)
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*[[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]* (26)
*[[Rollout (G1)|Rollout]]* (27)
*[[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]]* (28)
*''[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]'' (36)
*''[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'' (37)
*''[[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]]'' (38)
*''[[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]]'' (39)
*[[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] (40)
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*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (8)
*[[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]* (29)
*''[[Tesarus (DJD)|Tesarus]]'' (30)
*''[[Helex (DJD)|Helex]]'' (31)
*''[[Vos (DJD)|Vos]]'' (32)
*''[[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]]'' (33)
*''[[Kaon (DJD)|Kaon]]'' (35)
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*''[[The Pet]]'' (34)
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==Quotes==
'''Nautica:''' "Okay, so it's '''been ripped apart''', but—that's our ship!" 
'''Getaway:''' "Er—the ship we just saw disappear..." 
'''Riptide:''' "Two words: '''paradox.'''" 
'''Skids:''' "Riptide's right, even if his spelling isn't."

"Nuh-uh! It's '''not''' Ultra Magnus, which makes this a '''fail'''... I'm just waiting for confirmation from the judges and... oh! Not only is it a fail, but it's been placed in the '''epic''' category."
:—'''Riptide''' on Ravage's tracking ability

"Do you have a ''Conjunx Endura''? Or any ''Amica Endurae''? Do they practise any form of elective kinship on Caminus? Why are you smiling?" 
"Because '''you'''! Your '''questions'''! Anyone else would '''sidle up''' to a subject like that..." 
"Gah, who's got time to tiptoe?" 
"Well, the answers are no, yes, and yes. What about you? Ever had a sparkmate?" 
"Nah. But then, I '''am''' pretty insufferable." 
... 
"Silent howls of protest."
:—'''Nightbeat''' and '''Nautica'''

"I love my wrench." 
"'''Is''' it technically a wrench?" 
"It's a wrench-slash-scanner-slash-'''everything'''. Brainstorm added a billion extras. See? There's even a light that goes on when I'm exaggerating." 
:—'''Nautica''' and '''Nightbeat'''

"I once told Optimus I killed for the sake of killing. I wanted to make him '''hurt me''', you see—because when he hurts others, he hurts '''himself'''. And the thing is, when the words were in my head I didn't think I meant them; but when they left my mouth, I realized that I '''did'''. If the world thinks you're a monster, what does it matter? The world is '''wrong'''. But when you start to think of '''yourself''' as a monster... I came to hate the person I'd become. And I decided that the best way to leave that person behind—perhaps the easiest way—was to become an Autobot."
:—'''Megatron''' on his change of allegiance

"Look at me, Ravage. I'm '''old'''. Old and weak. Their poison makes me '''brittle''', but even at full strength, I'm long past my prime. My spark '''flickers''' where once it '''flared'''. And this body... oh, this nonsense body. It doesn't graft to the spark like the others. There's no purchase. No '''bite'''." 
"I don't like to hear you talk like this." 
"Why?" 
"Because it's not '''you'''! The Megatron who tore down the Senate—who emancipated millions; the Megatron we followed; the Megatron we '''loved'''... what happened to '''him'''?" 
"I don't know. I think he's dead." 
"Dead? Or just resting?" 
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Ravage'''

"Well done for '''Megatron'''. That was bomp-worthy." 
"It's weird, though. I almost wanted to apologize for locking him in... I worry I'm going to stop hating him." 
"A Decepticon kills an Autobot, you hate him. But a million Autobots? A '''billion'''? It's meaningless. That's the problem: the greater the crime, the harder it is to process a response."
:—'''Getaway''' and '''Skids'''

"It's a game, Nautica—an old wartime favorite. When someone shouts '''D.J.D.''' you have to find your friends and run like hell."
:—'''Getaway'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Though nobody points it out, the web of red quantum foam looks an aaaaawful lot like blood. This is not first "bleeding spaceship" we've seen in ''More than Meets the Eye''—there was the ''[[Worldsweeper]]'' back in [[Rules of Disengagement|issue #7]], though that was ''actually'' blood.
*We learned about Crosscut's play "Information Creep" last issue.
*A one-panel flashback shows Megatron being made to melt his fusion cannon in a vat of acid under the watchful eyes of Jetfire and Optimus Prime; there's a similarity here to an imaginary sequence seen in issue #7 (again) in which, after the hypothetical end of conflict, Megatron prepares to dispose of his weapon in a similar bubbling vat.
*We learn about another form of Transformer pair-bonding in addition to the [[Conjunx Endura]] this issue, the "[[Amica Endura]]". Though Nightbeat doesn't expand on the concept, it seems logical to assume that this is a Transformery version of a "best friend"—this was later confirmed by James Roberts<ref>https://twitter.com/jroberts332/status/504551830937165824 James Roberts on Amica Endura</ref>.
*Ravage mentions [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]]'s stewardship of the Decepticons, which is playing out over in sister title ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]''.
*Ravage is also revealed to be responsible for freeing the Decepticons from the ''Lost Light'' brig in [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|issue #28]].
*When Megatron recalls his talk with Optimus Prime, he is remembering the events of "[[Chaos Theory Part 1]]" and the notable speech he gave in that issue.
*As starts to become apparent as the issue builds towards its climax, there's clearly some timey-wimeyness at play here, and this is not simply a future version of the ''Lost Light''—the slow cell, Overlord and Rewind were all, ah, ''dispatched'' one way or another in [[Under Cold Blue Stars|issue #15]] and should no longer be on the ship, nor should Drift, who appears among the corpses despite being exiled in [[The Gloaming|issue #16]]. Note the... ''tactful'' positioning of Tailgate's dead body so as not to give this away ahead of time: he has been impaled through the chest, so we can't see if he's got the Autobot insignia he received shortly before issue #28, and only "Disposal" can be glimpsed on his right arm—we can't tell if it says "Bomb" or "Waste", the switch between the two having taken place in [[Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|issue #21]]—thereby eliminating the markings that we would be able to use to identify a future version of Tailgate as he is now. We do, however, get one small hint at the truth: the energon splattered around Tailgate's corpse is green, curdled as a result of the cybercrosis that he was cured of in issue #21.
*We can probably safely presume that it was to this "alternate" ''Lost Light'' that the DJD went following their detection of Overlord's signal at the conclusion of [[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|issue #8]], explaining why they never appeared to vex our heroes in the course of regular events.
*And speaking of issue #8, it's logical to wonder if the deaths on the [[Necrobot]]'s list back in that story might not be recordings of the passings of these "alternate" 'bots.

===Transformers references===
*Skids exclaims "By the [[Celestial Spires]]", an exclamation commonly seen in the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|Marvel UK]] comics.

===Real-world references===
*{{w|Quantum foam}} is a real concept in quantum mechanics.
*Nautica's upgraded wrench is a pretty clear take-off on the {{w|sonic screwdriver}} of ''[[Doctor|Doctor Who]]'' fame, in particular the highly multifunctional version of the device seen in the 2005 series.
*Getaway's feelings about the scale of Megatron's crimes (see quote [[#Quotes|above]]) are reminiscent of a famous statement dubiously attributed to another mass-murdering tyrant, Joseph Stalin: [[wikiquote:Joseph_Stalin#Misattributed|"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."]]
*Skids references Tarn's "morphing addiction," which is a soundalike for "morphine addiction."

===Crew manifest===
* Of "our" ''Lost Light'' crew, only Megatron, Getaway, Nautica, Nightbeat, Riptide, Skids, and stowaway Ravage are left. All other crewmembers have disappeared.
* All are dead on the alternate ''Lost Light'' except for Rewind.

===Soundtrack===
*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zsDdNvoqiI Dark]'' by {{w|Low (band)|Low}}
*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML3G1MykdnM Dirge]'' by {{w|Death in Vegas}}
*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EODw7eH5u7Q Waiting Rooms]'' by {{w|Simon Warner}}

===Other trivia===
*As noted in the synopsis, when Nightbeat and Nautica open Brainstorm's briefcase, the six-panel scene plays "out of order", with each panel making no sense if read directly after the preceding one. The clue for readers to deduce the proper reading order is in the large floor numbers that change as the lift descends through the ship's levels; reading the panels by in descending order from Level 06 to Level 01 will reveal the proper conversation. This is quite deliberate, and not any kind of printing error or glitch in your digital copy, kids!
*Many of the dead characters appear in vehicle mode for the first time in the series, making it hard to identify them! In particular, once-and-former [[Action Master]]s Rad, Rollout and Powerflash get alternate modes for the first time in Transformers fiction; fellow Action Master Jackpot—sitting to the right of Blades above the door—has been mostly covered by a speech balloon.

===Covers (3)===
*'''Regular cover:''' Ultra Magnus, Whirl, Ratchet, Perceptor and Mainframe in battle, by [[Alex Milne]] and [[Josh Perez]]
*'''Subscription cover:''' Nightbeat and Nautica atop Brainstorm's briefcase, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]], in homage to a classic ''[[The X-Files: Conspiracy: The Transformers|X-Files]]'' promotional image.
*'''30th Anniversary cover:''' The fused Megatron/Ratchet monstrosity from [[The Pri¢e of Life!|issue #70]] of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics series]], by [[Casey Coller]] and [[John-Paul Bove]], continuing this month's 30th Anniversary cover theme of Marvel moments. Slightly less horrifying than the contents of the issue.
<gallery>
File:MTMTE32 regcvr.jpg|Mainframe: Ok [[James Roberts|Roberts]]! I swear to [[Primus|God]], for every issue I don't star in, someone dies!
File:MTMTE32 subcvr.jpg|The truth is in [[briefcase|here]]!
File:MTMTE32 cvrRI.jpg
</gallery>

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*IDW ''Transformers'' trade paperback library
*''Spirit Animals''
* ''Little Nemo: Return to Slumberland'' (back cover)

==External links==
*[http://issuu.com/idwpublishing/docs/tf_mtmte_32-pr Preview]

==References==
{{Reflist}}

File:Slaughterhouse mtmte -32 djd attack.jpg

2014-09-09T12:19:42Z

Combaticons4ever: Tried adding sources

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Flashback/imagination sequence of the [[DJD]] attacking the [[Lost Light]]

image from [[slaughterhouse|MTMTE #32: slaughterhouse]], obtained from Tfw2005 discussion forums.

©[[IDW Publishing]]

Written by [[James Roberts]]

Image by [[Alex Milne]]

Color by [[Joana Lafuente]]

File talk:Slaughterhouse mtmte -32 djd attack.jpg

2014-09-09T12:16:46Z

Combaticons4ever: Please help categorize this image. I'm having a hard time doing so

Can someone help clean up this image? It's from IDW, and I included that in the description, but I'm not sure how to change the categories to reflect that. [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] ([[User talk:Combaticons4ever|talk]]) 08:16, 9 September 2014 (EDT)

File:Slaughterhouse mtmte -32 djd attack.jpg

2014-09-09T12:15:02Z

Combaticons4ever: {{comicinterior}} Flashback/imagination sequence of the DJD attacking the Lost Light image from MTMTE #32: slaughterhouse, obtained from Tfw2005 discussion forums. ©IDW Publishing Written by James Roberts Image ...

{{comicinterior}}

Flashback/imagination sequence of the [[DJD]] attacking the [[Lost Light]]

image from [[slaughterhouse|MTMTE #32: slaughterhouse]], obtained from Tfw2005 discussion forums.

©[[IDW Publishing]]

Written by [[James Roberts]]

Image by [[Alex Milne]]

Color by [[Joana Lafuente]]

Talk:Slaughterhouse

2014-08-27T15:30:21Z

Combaticons4ever: Created page with "Is the lack of capitalization in the title purposeful? ~~~~"

Is the lack of capitalization in the title purposeful? [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] ([[User talk:Combaticons4ever|talk]]) 11:30, 27 August 2014 (EDT)

Spotlight: Ramjet

2014-08-22T12:56:17Z

Combaticons4ever: Added new update about Simon Furman's comments about Ramjet showing up again, since he did... sort of

{{comicstory|seriesissue=''[[The Transformers: Spotlight]]'' #10
|prev=Spotlight: Optimus Prime
|next=Spotlight: Blaster
|title="The Transformers: Spotlight Ramjet"
|image=Spotlight Ramjet a.jpg
|caption=I'm a sexy beast!
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[November 7]], [[2007]]
|coverdate=November 2007
|written by=[[Stuart Moore]]
|art by=[[Robby Musso]]
|colors by=[[Josh Burcham]]
|letters by=[[Chris Mowry]]
|edits by=[[Chris Ryall]] and [[Andrew Steven Harris]]
|chronology=[[IDW timeline#Escalation|Escalation]]
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]
}}
'''Ramjet schemes to overthrow Megatron. Who knew the guy had it in him?'''

==Synopsis==
[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] diverts from his mission to meet with [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] in mid-flight. While speeding across the skies, Ramjet and Skywarp discuss the failings of [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] and [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]. Ramjet boasts that he has the smarts to overthrow Megatron, and tries to enlist Skywarp. Skywarp gives him 24 hours to come up with a good plan, reminding him of the old Cybertronian saying, "Always bet on the leader." Ramjet checks in with his [[Mini-Constructicon]]s, who inform him that the [[Universal Cybertronic Tracker]] will be ready in 18 hours. Ramjet next contacts his [[Pentagon]]-employed [[facsimile construct|facsimile]] [[Harrison (G1)|Harrison]] (who, due to inferior construction, appears dimwitted) and tells him to be prepared to deliver missile codes. Ramjet will use the missiles to devastate the [[United States of America|United States]].

As Megatron and his Decepticons begin their war in [[Brasnya]], Ramjet flies to the [[European Union Alternative Energy Research Center]] and drops fliers for an unspecified contest. An emblem of a Euro symbol on each flier is actually a spy device which jumps off the paper and attaches itself to the computers of the Center's employees. Ramjet believes that someone at the Center will eventually develop a useful [[energon]] substitute. Meanwhile in Brasnya, Megatron delivers the beating of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime's]] life.

Ramjet later returns to his Mini-Constructicons, and they have his device ready. When two of them ask for a taste of his power once he overthrows Megatron, Ramjet destroys them for their insolence. Harrison meets with Ramjet and delivers the codes, but his face is melting off due to his inferior creation. Ramjet boasts of his plans to his liquefying lackey, which include tracking all Cybertronians, acquiring his energon substitute, blowing up the United States, enslaving the [[Decepticon]]s and [[human]]s of [[Earth]], and using a [[superstring spacebridge]] to dominate the galaxy.

Unfortunately for Ramjet, Megatron arrives and beats him mercilessly, ripping out his [[spark]] before tearing him limb from limb. He scatters Ramjet's parts at Ramjet's base, Harrison's office at the Pentagon, and the Energy Research Center, indicating that he knew about Ramjet's plans in detail. Megatron keeps Ramjet's head as a trophy and an object lesson for his other troops. Behind him, Skywarp echoes his earlier statement, "Always bet on the leader."

==Featured characters==
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*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] (8)

|c2=
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (1)
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (2)
*[[Mini-Constructicon]]s (3)
*[[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] (4)
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (6)
*[[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] (9)
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (10)
*[[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] (11)

|c3=
*[[Hunter O'Nion]] (12)
*[[Jimmy Pink]] (13)
*[[Verity Carlo]] (14)

|c4=
*[[Harrison (G1)|Harrison]] (5)
*[[Georgi Koska]] (7)
}}

==Notes==

===Continuity Notes===
* This issue takes place after the ''[[New Avengers/Transformers]]'' miniseries, and is written by the same author.
* The timeframe of the issue corresponds with the events in the ''[[The Transformers: Escalation|Escalation]]'' series.
* Apparently, IDW Transformers can fart (page 7). In general terms, this is [[Humanization|not a new development]].
* As Harrison collapses to the ground, it can also be seen that his car is wrecked and smoking. This is not explained, though it seems likely that the barely-functional facsimile is a terrible driver, given that it can only speak in rudimentary grunts. (It's also nicely symbolic of how everything around Ramjet was about to turn to crap.)
* This issue has the first mention of a space bridge in the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]].
* Given how the Decepticons are so keen on keeping themselves hidden from the planet's populace they infiltrate, it is quite unexpected that Megatron throws parts of Ramjet around the globe (thereby giving humans access to Cybertronian technology as well). This goes on to have drastic repercussions, as [[Earth Defense Command]] uses Ramjet's remains to build a drone army of him in [[Earthfall Chapter 5: I Dream of Wires| RID #32]].

===Trivia===
* Following the story are two pages of sketches by [[Robby Musso]].
* This is the first ''Spotlight'' issue that does not appear to be part of a larger storyline. While other ''Spotlights'' have answered questions raised in previous issues, brought up mysteries that created new questions, or introduced future plot developments, this one seems to be relatively self-contained. The only references to the rest of the storyline exist merely for chronological placement. However, [[Simon Furman]] mentioned on his blog that Ramjet may show up again.<ref>http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/script-wrap-14/#comment-1692</ref> [[Earthfall Chapter 5: I Dream of Wires|In a way, he did.]]

===Errors===
* The size of the text in this issue is considerably smaller than the norm.
* On page 17, in the first speech bubble, the sentence is unfinished.

===Covers (3)===
* '''Cover A:''' Ramjet, robot and alternate modes by [[Robby Musso]] and [[Kieran Oats]] (colors).
* '''Cover B:''' Ramjet, Megatron and Skywarp by [[Guido Guidi]] and [[Josh Burcham]] (colors).
* '''Cover RI:''' Cover A, uncolored sketch
<gallery>
Image:Spotlight Ramjet a.jpg|Cover A
Image:Spotlight Ramjet b.jpg|And he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for <s>you pesky kids</s> Megatron's head hovering behind him the whole time.
Image:Spotlight Ramjet ria.jpg|RI Cover
</gallery>

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===Reprints===
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==References==
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[[Category:Spotlight issues|Ramjet]]

May 14

2014-05-13T12:36:16Z

Combaticons4ever: added idw releases

<noinclude>{{cal-date|5|14}}</noinclude>
* '''[[2003]] —''' [[Robert Stack]] (the voice of [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'') dies of a heart attack at the age of 84.
* '''2003 —''' [[Transformers: Armada (Dreamwave)|''Transformers Armada'']] [[Dreamwave Armada issue 11|#11]] is released by [[Dreamwave Productions]].
* '''[[2005]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' episode "[[Champion|The Glorious Planet Cup]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[2008]] —''' [[The Transformers: Best of UK: Space Pirates|''Best of UK: Space Pirates'' #3]] is published in the US by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2008 —''' The ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' series is released on DVD in Australia by [[Madman Entertainment]].
* '''[[2011]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]" premieres on [[The Hub]].
* '''2011 —''' The [[TakaraTomy]] ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' website begins the first of three [[Lucky Draw figure]] [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)#Lucky Draw figures|"Mechtech Campaign" contests]], the "A" prize being one of 10 "[[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#TritaniumBee|Tritanium Bumblebee]]" toys. [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)#MechTech Weapon Prize Campaign|Four exclusive MechTech weapons]] are also made available at different store chains.
* '''[[2014]] -''' ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|#29]] and ''[[The Transformers: Regeneration One|Regeneration One]]'' Volume 4 TPB are released by [[IDW Publishing]].

Main Page/schedule

2014-05-13T12:34:38Z

Combaticons4ever: May 14th links to the 13th

* '''[[Template:May|05–??]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Robots in Disguise issue 29|#29]], ''[[The Transformers: Windblade|Windblade]]'' [[Windblade issue 2|#2]] and ''[[Legacy: The Art of Transformers Packaging]]'' are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[May 10|05–10]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Space Bots]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].
* '''[[May 13|05–13]] —''' [[Little, Brown and Company|LB Kids]] releases the ''[[Transformers: Kre-O Character Encyclopedia]]'' with [[exclusive]] [[Optimus Prime (Kre-O)#OrionPax|Orion Pax]] [[Kreon]].
* '''[[May 14|05–14]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|#29]] and ''[[The Transformers: Regeneration One|Regeneration One]]'' Volume 4 TPB are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[May 17|05–17]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[The Island of Misfit Tech]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].
* '''[[May 24|05–24]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[The Vigilant Town]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].
* '''[[May 31|05–31]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Buddy System]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].

* '''[[June 19|06–19]] —''' The first day of [[BotCon 2014]] in Pasadena, California.
* '''[[June 24|06–24]] —''' [[Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark]] is released by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]. ''
* '''[[June 27|06–27]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Transformers: Age of Extinction]]'' is scheduled to be released.

* '''[[August 17|08–17]] —''' "[[Hell Day]]": The Decepticons led by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] invade [[Earth]] with [[Teletran 3]]'s teleportation ability, and devastate the planet. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 3|G.I Joe vs. the Transformers II #3}}
* '''[[August 23|08–23]] —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-20 Wheeljack]].
* '''[[Soon|Scheduled, but date TBD]]''' — ''[[Transformers Universe]]'' is released by [[Jagex]]. [[The Transformers: The IDW Collection|The IDW Collection]]'' Volume 2 (Red Label edition) and ''[[The Transformers Classics UK Volume 5]]'' are released by [[IDW Publishing]]. [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-21 Bumble]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-22 Ultra Magnus]] and [[Star Saber (Victory)#Masterpiece|Star Saber]].

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Main Page/schedule

2014-05-13T12:32:52Z

Combaticons4ever: Rise of the dark spark has been announced as being released on the 24th

* '''[[Template:May|05–??]]''' — ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Robots in Disguise issue 29|#29]], ''[[The Transformers: Windblade|Windblade]]'' [[Windblade issue 2|#2]] and ''[[Legacy: The Art of Transformers Packaging]]'' are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[May 10|05–10]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Space Bots]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].
* '''[[May 13|05–13]] —''' [[Little, Brown and Company|LB Kids]] releases the ''[[Transformers: Kre-O Character Encyclopedia]]'' with [[exclusive]] [[Optimus Prime (Kre-O)#OrionPax|Orion Pax]] [[Kreon]].
* '''[[May 13|05–14]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|#29]] and ''[[The Transformers: Regeneration One|Regeneration One]]'' Volume 4 TPB are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[May 17|05–17]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[The Island of Misfit Tech]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].
* '''[[May 24|05–24]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[The Vigilant Town]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].
* '''[[May 31|05–31]]''' — The ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' episode "[[Buddy System]]" premieres on [[Hub Network]].

* '''[[June 19|06–19]] —''' The first day of [[BotCon 2014]] in Pasadena, California.
* '''[[June 24|06–24]] —''' [[Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark]] is released by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]. ''
* '''[[June 27|06–27]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Transformers: Age of Extinction]]'' is scheduled to be released.

* '''[[August 17|08–17]] —''' "[[Hell Day]]": The Decepticons led by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] invade [[Earth]] with [[Teletran 3]]'s teleportation ability, and devastate the planet. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 3|G.I Joe vs. the Transformers II #3}}
* '''[[August 23|08–23]] —''' [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-20 Wheeljack]].
* '''[[Soon|Scheduled, but date TBD]]''' — ''[[Transformers Universe]]'' is released by [[Jagex]]. [[The Transformers: The IDW Collection|The IDW Collection]]'' Volume 2 (Red Label edition) and ''[[The Transformers Classics UK Volume 5]]'' are released by [[IDW Publishing]]. [[TakaraTomy]] releases ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-21 Bumble]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-22 Ultra Magnus]] and [[Star Saber (Victory)#Masterpiece|Star Saber]].

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Rossum's Trinity

2014-05-05T14:51:35Z

Combaticons4ever: adding that the T-cog doesn't seem as important to trinity due to multiple transformers having damaged or even removed theirs and still surviving

:''Rossum's Trinity is a technobiological principle from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
Named after the scientist [[Rossum]], '''Rossum's Trinity''' is the principle that a [[Transformer]]'s being possesses three vital and interlinked parts: the [[brain module]], the [[spark]], and the [[transformation cog]]. Enough damage to any one of the three can cause the other two to shut down and ultimately cause death.

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] reviewed the concept of Rossum's Trinity when the Autobots aboard the ''[[Lost Light]]'' investigated how a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] killed [[Shock]]. [[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]] was not appreciative of Chromedome's rambling. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}

The transformation cog doesn't seem to be as essential to the trinity, as the [[Militant Monoform Movement]] removes their T-cogs upon joining the organization, {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} and [[Decepticon Justice Division]] leader [[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]] has burnt through quite a few due to his addiction to transformation{{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}}

[[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] would later liken himself, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] to Rossum's Trinity. {{storylink|Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|The Fecund Moon}}

==Notes==
*The name of the concept is a reference to the 1920 Czech science fiction play ''[[Wikipedia:R.U.R.|Rossum's Universal Robots]]'', which was significant for introducing the word "[[Wiktionary:robot|robot]]" into the English language.
*Also known as ''Rossum's Rule of Thirds''. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}}

[[Category:Generation 1 Transformer anatomy]]

Earth Defense Command

2014-04-23T15:12:37Z

Combaticons4ever: added IDW comics

:''Earth Defense Command is an organization from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
{{factions|edc}}

[[File:EDClogo.jpg|thumb|Sticker Defense Command]]
'''Earth Defense Command''' is a [[human]]-run military organization.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''Kiss Players''====
[[File:EDC Zodiac.jpg|thumb]]
The Earth Defense Command was formed in 2003 as part of a cooperative [[human]]/[[Autobot]] effort. When the [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] virus critically struck the Autobots later that year, the EDC kicked off the [[Binaltech]] Project to shore up its defenses.

When Galvatron was hurled out of [[Unicron]] by Rodimus Prime in 2005, rather than immediately crashing onto the planet [[Thrull]], he instead hurtled toward Earth. Landing in Tokyo, Japan, the Decepticon leader's impact decimated the city and scattered his Unicron-mutated cells throughout Earth's atmosphere.

Following this catastrophe, the EDC was reborn as an organization dedicated to driving all [[Transformer]]s off [[Earth]]. The organization built an [[anti-electron]] field (previously referred to as an [[Energon]] field) to make the planet uninhabitable to Cybertronians, and created a team of 48 transforming robots known as [[Autorooper]]s to combat any Transformers that remained, recruiting young women who had been infected with the cells and gained [[Kiss Player]] fusion abilities to partner with them.

Although the organization ostensibly defended humanity from attacks by [[Legion]] (monstrous creatures resulting from the fusion of Galvatron's Unicron-mutated cells with ordinary objects and lifeforms), it was secretly using those same cells to create its Autorooper forces. Under the command of [[Hitoshizuku Amaō]], it built a facility called the [[Genital System]] beneath its Tokyo-based headquarters. Inside this secret chamber, Galvatron's headless body was imprisoned and terrible experiments were conducted using captured Legion remains and EDC Kiss Players. The goal of these experiments was the resurrection of Amaō's daughter, who had been killed in the Tokyo disaster.

A joint attack by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Marissa Faireborn]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and former EDC Kiss Player [[Shaoshao Li (KP)|Shaoshao Li]], and current Kiss Player [[Atari Hitotonari (KP)|Atari Hitotonari]] and her Ne-04 Autorooper partner exposed the Genital System facility. Amaō was killed, Galvatron was restored and launched into space, and the anti-electron field was taken down.

The EDC was reformed and returned to its original policies. Together with Autobot leader [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]], it created the [[Kiss Players (singing group)|Kiss Players]] singing group, which toured the planet to promote peace and good will between the two species.

====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
The Earth Defense Command is a joint human/[[Autobot]] military organization dedicated to the protection of [[Earth]] and its solar system. It was founded at some point before 2005, and by that year at least three space stations had been constructed (one in Earth orbit, one at [[Pluto]], and a third near [[Goo 8739B]]). This defense is augmented by a [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] land base, as well as several space vessels that allow quick transit throughout the solar system and beyond.

The Earth orbital station observes traffic to and from the planet, with the authority to call out Autobot and/or human military assistance. The Pluto station served much the same function, its proximity to a [[warp gate]] making it a first line of defense against hostiles from non-Solar worlds. Unfortunately, even with its advanced technology, this battle platform was destroyed in a matter of moments by [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] and his lieutenants. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}} It is unclear whether the Earth base would survive a similar attack. In 2006, the deep-space station near Goo was demolished by [[death crystal]]s, even though (according to [[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]]) it was built out of the strongest metal in the galaxy. {{storylink|Chaos (episode)|Chaos}}

On a smaller scale, powerful technology (most likely [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]]) has also been incorporated in land and air vehicles. An EDC car kept up a decent fight during a high-speed road duel involving two [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] and [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]]. The car was armed with a roof-mounted blaster (not to mention incredible crash protection and recovery systems). {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}} Also, a similar vehicle has been seen flying despite a lack of suitable wings or the noise of conventional propulsion - just like a Transformer.

The hierarchy of the EDC is unclear, although it appears that the Autobots may be ultimately in charge. It's also unclear whether any Autobots are technically considered EDC officers. All the humans wear white uniforms with blue trim; no Autobots have been seen changing their paint jobs to fit in.

The only EDC officer whose name we know is [[Marissa Faireborn]].

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
The EDC was founded by [[Nathaniel Faireborn]] to deal with extraterrestrial matters shortly after the emergence of the Transformers in the mid-eighties. Its base of operations is located at [[Area 51]]. Faireborn's intention was to better Transformer/human relations, but the damage the Transformers conflict caused on [[Earth]], along with an Army General with a last name of Witwicky and a talent for hiding from the camera/reader, often made this difficult.
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===IDW===
The EDC appears to be a joint alliance between the humans and the [[Decepticon|Decepticons]]. Marissa Faireborn is a member and is a liason to [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]].{{storylink|Earthfall Part 1: Hello Cruel World}}

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Chikyū Bōei Gun''' (地球防衛軍, "Earth Defense Force")

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Vos (G1)

2014-04-22T18:08:34Z

Combaticons4ever: Added notes section which includes Vos's altmode

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{{disambig2|the member of the Decepticon Justice Division|the Decepticon city|Vos}}
:''Vos is a Decepticon from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Mtmte vos wear my face.jpg|thumb|300px|[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime's]] worst nightmare.]]
'''Vos''' is a scientist and one of the five members of the [[Decepticon Justice Division]], the group of torturers and fanatics employed by [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] to hunt down and deal with traitors.

A so-called "linguistic purist", he speaks only the [[Cybertronian language#IDW Generation 1 continuity|Primal Vernacular]], and has thus far failed to learn more than a few words of the modern [[Transformer]] tongue, [[Cybertronian language#IDW Generation 1 continuity|Neocybex]]. As such, his contributions to the conversation are usually interpreted by his squad leader [[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]].

Vos transforms into a sniper rifle to be wielded by another member of the D.J.D. or even Megatron himself on occasion. His favored method of torture is removing his face, the inside of which is lined with numerous spikes, drills, and hooks, and forcing his target to wear it. This provides perhaps a rather ''visceral'' counterpoint to the old corrupt [[Senate]]'s favored punishment of [[empurata]], ritual disfigurement.

{{quote|Wear my faaace.|Vos to Krok|[[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?]]}}

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
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When the Decepticon [[Black Shadow (Victory)|Black Shadow]] was caught for getting bribed to destroy a fleet of [[Warworld]]s, Vos enjoyed watching the other members slowly torture and kill him. Afterwards, Vos and the other members were then ordered by Tarn to move on to their next target, [[Fulcrum (G1)|Fulcrum]]. {{storylink|Rules of Disengagement}} On arrival at [[Clemency]], they were attacked by Fulcrum's new friends, the [[Scavenger (group)|Scavengers]], and responded in kind. During the course of battle, Vos got a chance to ram his face on [[Krok (G1)|Krok]], who unfortunately survived the treatment. Once Fulcrum ended up seemingly killing himself, the D.J.D. left the planet, ignoring the surviving Scavengers in favor of hunting down a more high-profile target: [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]. {{storylink|Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|Who's Afraid of the DJD?}}
==Notes==
* He turns into a gun which appears to be a sniper rifle
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Transformers: Generations (toyline)

2014-04-07T11:50:06Z

Combaticons4ever: more Generations links

{{disambig3|Generations}}
[[Image:TF-Generations-logo.jpg|350px|center]]
'''''Transformers: Generations''''' is a line of figures launched in 2010. Like the earlier 2006 ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' and 2008 [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|''Universe'']] lines, along with much of the 2010 [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|''Transformers'']] line, it aims to recreate older ''Transformers'' characters as new toys and celebrate the history of the brand.

During the 2010–2011 portion of the line, the toys, of [[Size class|Deluxe Class]] only, were a mixture of designs from the concurrently released ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]'' video game, the “modernised G1” style of the ''Classics'' and ''Universe'' toylines, and the odd figure inspired by the character models of [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW's ongoing Generation 1 comic storyline]]. The earlier waves of figures sported advertising for [[The Hub]] or ''War for Cybertron''.

After a hiatus during the height of the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|''Dark of the Moon'' franchise]], the line returned in full force in 2012, with a range based on the ''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'' video game. Continuing into 2013, the line was expanded to include both Voyager and Legends Class toys. Unlike the old [[Legends Class]], which had been absorbed into the ''[[Cyberverse]]'' range under the new name "Legion Class", the new "Legends Class" assortment consisted of two-packs that varied between two equally-sized [[data disc]]/[[Deployer (WFC)|Deployer]] figures, each roughly the same size as an old Legends figure, and a larger toy roughly the size of a ''Cyberverse'' Commander Class figure with a smaller companion figure.

In celebration of the 30th anniversary of the [[Transformers brand|brand]], the line was refreshed in mid-2013 as part of Hasbro’s ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' campaign, with a heavy focus on translating [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] designs into toys for all three size classes, alongside some ''Classics''/''Universe''-style redesigns. In addition, all ''Thrilling 30'' Deluxe Class toys include a full comic issue – initially ''[[The Transformers: Spotlight|Spotlight]]'' issues for the relevant character, and subsequently issues tying into the “[[Dark Cybertron]]” event storyline.

==2010–2011==
===Deluxe Class===
[[Image:Generations Drift toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|RETRIBUTION!]]
'''Wave 1'''
* [[Bumblebee (WFC)#Generations|Cybertronian Bumblebee]] (''War for Cybertron'')
* [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#Generations|Cybertronian Optimus Prime]] (''War for Cybertron'')
* [[Drift (G1)#Generations|Autobot Drift]]
* [[Thrust (G1)#Generations|Thrust]] ([[redeco]] of ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)#Gentei! Gentei!|Gentei! Gentei!]]'' [[Thrust (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|Thrust]])

{{note|[[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] and online retailers like Entertainment Earth and [[BigBadToyStore]] received special cases containing only Cybertronian Optimus Prime and Cybertronian Bumblebee as a promotional tie in for the release of the ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]'' video game before the general release of the ''Generations'' toyline.}}

[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|250px|I'm just a miner.]]
'''Wave 2'''
* [[Megatron (WFC)#Generations|Cybertronian Megatron]] (''War for Cybertron'')
* [[Straxus (G1)#Generations|Darkmount]]

'''Wave 3'''
* [[Soundwave (WFC)#Generations|Cybertronian Soundwave]] (''War for Cybertron'')
* [[Red Alert (G1)#Generations|Red Alert]] ([[retool]] of [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|''Universe'' (2008)]] [[Sideswipe (G1)#Universe (2008)|Sideswipe]])

'''Wave 4'''
* [[Blurr (G1)#Generations|Blurr]] (retool of Drift)
* [[Dirge (G1)#Generations|Dirge]] (redeco of ''Gentei! Gentei!'' [[Dirge (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|Dirge]])

[[Image:Generationstoy-Thunderwing.jpg|right|thumb|250px|And that's when Hasbro ran out of [[The Transformers: The Movie|movie-era]] Decepticons.]]
'''Wave 5'''
* [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Generations|Cliffjumper]] (''War for Cybertron'', retool of Cybertronian Bumblebee)
* [[Skullgrin#Generations|Skullgrin]] (retool of Darkmount)
* [[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations|Thunderwing]]

'''Wave 6'''
* [[Scourge (G1)#Generations|Scourge]]
* [[Kup (G1)#Generations|Sergeant Kup]]

[[Image:Generationstoy-Warpath.jpg|right|thumb|250px|That's it, we're done!]]
'''Wave 7'''
* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Generations|Thundercracker]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|Starscream]])
* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations|Wheeljack]] (retool of ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]: [[Reveal the Shield]]'' [[Tracks (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Turbo Tracks]])

'''Wave 8'''
* [[Warpath (G1)#Generations|Warpath]]

'''Wave 9'''
* [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations|Junkheap]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Wreck-Gar (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Wreck-Gar]])
* [[Black Shadow (Victory)#Generations|Sky Shadow]] (retool of Thunderwing)
{{-}}

==2012–2014==
===Legends Class===
'''Series 01 (''Fall of Cybertron'')'''
[[Image:GenerationsFOCRamhorn.JPG|right|thumb|250px|You'll need more than a glass of water to swallow ''this'' tablet.]]
'''Wave 1'''
* #001 [[Ravage (WFC)#Generations|Ravage]] & [[Rumble (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Rumble]]
* #002 [[Frenzy (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Frenzy]] (redeco of #001 Decepticon Rumble) & [[Ratbat (WFC)#Generations|Ratbat]] (retool of Laserbeak from Voyager Class Soundwave)

'''Wave 2'''
* #003 [[Eject (FOC)#Generations|Eject]] (retool of #001 Decepticon Rumble) & [[Ramhorn (FOC)#Generations|Ramhorn]]
* #004 [[Rewind (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Rewind]] (redeco of #003 Eject) & [[Sunder (FOC)#Generations|Sunder]] (redeco of Laserbeak from Voyager Class Soundwave)

'''Series 02 (''Thrilling 30'')'''
[[Image:Generationstoy-T30-LegendsMegatronChopShop.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Still just a miner, but hey, check out this bug I found!]]
'''Wave 3'''
* #001 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Legends|Optimus Prime]] & [[Roller (G1)#Generations|Autobot Roller]]
* #002 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Generations|Bumblebee]] & [[Blaze Master#Generations|Blazemaster]]

'''Wave 4'''
* #003 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Generations|Starscream]] & [[Waspinator (BW)#Generations|Waspinator]]
* #004 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generations|Megatron]] & [[Chop Shop#Generations|Chop Shop]]

'''Wave 5'''
* #005 [[Swerve (G1)#Generations|Swerve]] & [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations|Flanker]]
* #006 [[Cosmos (G1)#Generations|Autobot Cosmos]] & [[Blast Master#Generations|Payload]]

'''Wave 6'''
* #007 [[Shrapnel (G1)#Generations|Skrapnel]] & [[Reflector (G1)#Generations|Reflector]]
* #008 [[Tailgate (G1)#Generations|Tailgate]] & [[Neutro#Generations|Groundbuster]]

'''Wave 7'''
* [[Gears (G1)#Generations|Gears]] & [[Eagle Eye (G1)#Generations|Eclipse]] (retool of #005 Swerve & Flanker)
* [[Acid Storm (G1)#Generations|Acid Storm]] & [[Venom (G1)#Generations|Venin]] (redeco of #003 Starscream & Waspinator)
{{comingsoontoy}}
{{-}}

===Deluxe Class===
'''Series 01 (''Fall of Cybertron'')'''
[[Image:Generationstoy-OptimusPrimeFOC.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Another line, another Prime.]]
'''Wave 1'''
* #001 [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#FOCtoy|Optimus Prime]]
* #002 [[Jazz (WFC)#Generations|Autobot Jazz]]
* #003 [[Shockwave (WFC)#Generations|Shockwave]]

'''Wave 2'''
* #004 [[Onslaught (WFC)#Retail|Onslaught]] (Part 1 of 5: [[Bruticus (WFC)#Brut|Decepticon Bruticus]])
* #005 [[Swindle (FOC)#Retail|Swindle]] (Part 4 of 5: Decepticon Bruticus)
* #006 [[Vortex (FOC)#Retail|Vortex]] (Part 3 of 5: Decepticon Bruticus)
* #007 [[Brawl (WFC)#Retail|Decepticon Brawl]] (Part 5 of 5: Decepticon Bruticus)
* #008 [[Blast Off (FOC)#Retail|Blast Off]] (Part 2 of 5: Decepticon Bruticus)
{{Note|The five [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticons]] introduced in wave 2 combine into Bruticus.}}

[[Image:Generationstoy-Ruination.jpg|right|thumb|250px|And [[Rotorstorm (G1)|Rotorstorm]] gets the last laugh.]]
'''Wave 3'''
* #009 [[Kickback (FOC)#Generations|Kickback]]
* #010 [[Starscream (WFC)#Generations|Starscream]]
* #011 [[Sideswipe (WFC)#Generations|Sideswipe]] (retool of #002 Jazz)
* #012 [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)#Generations|Ultra Magnus]] (retool of #001 Optimus Prime)
* #013 [[Fireflight (FOC)#Generations|Air Raid]] (retool of #003 Shockwave)

'''Wave 4'''
* #014 [[Impactor (Prime)#Generations|Impactor]] (Part 1 of 5: [[Ruination (FOC)|Ruination]]; retool of #004 Onslaught)
* #015 [[Twintwist#Generations|Twintwist]] (Part 5 of 5: Ruination; retool of #007 Decepticon Brawl)
* #016 [[Topspin (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Topspin]] (Part 2 of 5: Ruination; retool of #008 Blast Off)
* #017 [[Roadbuster (Prime)#Generations|Roadbuster]] (Part 4 of 5: Ruination; retool of #005 Swindle)
* #018 [[Whirl (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Whirl]] (Part 3 of 5: Ruination; retool of #006 Vortex)
{{Note|The five [[Wrecker]]s introduced in wave 4 combine into Ruination.}}

'''Series 02 (''Thrilling 30'')'''
[[File:Generations trailcutter(trailbreaker).jpg|thumb|250px|[[Nightmare Fuel|Liquor]] bottle accessories sold separately.]]
'''Wave 5'''
* #001 [[Trailbreaker (G1)#Generations|Trailcutter]] with ''[[The Reluctant Specialist|Spotlight: Trailcutter]]''
* #002 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Deluxe|Orion Pax]] with ''[[Omega's Conundrum|Spotlight: Orion Pax]]''
* #003 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Deluxe|Megatron]] with ''[[Spotlight: Megatron]]''
* #004 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Deluxe|Bumblebee]] with ''[[The Question|Spotlight: Bumblebee]]''

'''Wave 6'''
* #005 [[Hoist (G1)#Deluxe|Hoist]] (retool of #001 Trailcutter) with ''[[The Waiting Game|Spotlight: Hoist]]''
* #006 [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Thrilling30|Thundercracker]] (redeco of Series 01 Starscream) with ''[[The Hunting Party (IDW)|Spotlight: Thundercracker]]''

'''Wave 7'''
* #007 [[Dreadwing (G2)#Generations|Dreadwing]] (retool of #003 Megatron) with [[Shockwaves|''Robots in Disguise'' #17]]
* #008 [[Waspinator (BW)#Generations|Waspinator]] with [[Homecoming (IDW)|''Robots in Disguise'' #19]]
* #009 [[Skids (G1)#Generations|Autobot Skids]] with [[Little_Victories|''More than Meets the Eye'' #22]]
* #010 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Generations|Goldfire]] (retool of #004 Bumblebee) with [[Second Exodus|''Robots in Disguise'' #18]]

[[File:Scoop-deluxe-generations.jpg|thumb|250px|]]
'''Wave 8'''
* #011 [[Starscream (Armada)#Generations|''Armada'' Starscream]] (new sculpt) with [[Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|''Dark Cybertron'' #1]]
* #012 [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Generations|Skywarp]] (redeco of Series 01 Starscream) with [[Winners & Losers: Dark Cybertron Chapter 3|''Robots in Disguise'' #23]]
* #013 [[Mini-Con Assault Team]] ([[Heavytread (Generations)|Heavytread]], [[Runway (Generations)|Runway]] and [[Windshear]]; merge to form [[Centuritron]]) with [[Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|''More than Meets the Eye'' #24]]
* #014 [[Scoop (G1)#Generations|Autobot Scoop]] with [[Holepunch (G1)|Holepunch]] and [[Tracer (Nebulan)|Caliburst]] and with [[Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|''More than Meets the Eye'' #23]]

[[File:Generationstoy-Rattrap.jpg|right|thumb|250px]]
'''Wave 9'''
* [[Rattrap (BW)#Generations|Rattrap]] with [[Finest Hour: Dark Cybertron Chapter 5|''Robots in Disguise'' #24]]
* [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]] (retool of #009 Skids) with [[The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|''Robots in Disguise'' #25]]
* [[Tankor (BM)#Generations|Tankor]] with [[No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6|''More than Meets the Eye'' #25]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

[[File:Generationstoy-Windblade.jpg|right|thumb|250px]]
'''Wave 10'''
* [[Nightbeat (G1)#Generations|Nightbeat]] (retool of #004 Bumblebee)
* [[Jhiaxus (G2)#Generations|Jhiaxus]] (retool of #011 Armada Starscream)
* [[Windblade (G1)#Generations|Windblade]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

'''Wave 11'''
* [[Arcee (G1)#Generations|Arcee]]
* [[Chromia (G1)#Generations|Chromia]]
{{comingsoontoy}}
{{-}}

===Voyager Class===
'''Series 01 (''Fall of Cybertron'')'''
[[Image:Generations-SoundwaveVoyager.jpg|right|thumb|250px|This time, I brought backup!]]
'''Wave 1'''
* #001 [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsVoyager|Soundwave]] with [[Laserbeak (WFC)#Generations|Laserbeak]]
* #002 [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsSoundblaster|Soundblaster]] (redeco of #001 Soundwave) with [[Buzzsaw (FOC)|Buzzsaw]] (redeco of #001 Laserbeak)

'''Wave 2'''
* #003 [[Grimlock (WFC)#Generations|Grimlock]]
* #004 [[Blaster (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Blaster]] (retool of #001 Soundwave) with [[Steeljaw (FOC)|Steeljaw]] (retool of #001 Ravage)

'''Series 02 (''Thrilling 30'')'''

'''Wave 3'''
* #001 [[Springer (G1)#Voyager|Autobot Springer]]
* #002 [[Blitzwing (G1)#Generations|Blitzwing]]

'''Wave 4'''
* #003 [[Sandstorm (G1)#Voyager|Sandstorm]] (retool of #001 Springer)

'''Wave 5'''
* #004 [[Doubledealer#Generations|Decepticon Doubledealer]] (retool of #002 Blitzwing)
* #005 [[Rhinox (BW)#Generations|Rhinox]]

'''Wave 6'''
* #006 [[Whirl (G1)#Generations|Autobot Whirl]]
{{-}}

'''Wave 7'''
*[[Sky-Byte (RID)#Generations|Sky-Byte]]
*[[Roadbuster (G1)#Generations|Roadbuster]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

===Leader Class===
* [[Jetfire (G1)#Generations|Jetfire]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

===Titan Class===
[[Image:Generationstoy-MetroplexTitanClass.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Come oooon, Trypticon!]]
'''Wave 1'''
* [[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]]
{{Note|Metroplex's [[packaging]] is completely lacking the ''Generations'' moniker, instead simply branding the toy as ''Transformers'' while still sporting the ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' logo. The [[instructions]], however, do sport the ''Generations'' logo.}}

{{-}}

==Exclusives==
===Convention exclusives===
[[Image:Generationstoy-T30-Metroplex-HKACGCON.jpg|right|thumb|250px|If you think ''this'' is huge, wait until you see his aftermarket prices...]]
====San Diego Comic-Con====
=====2012=====
*[[Bruticus (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Bruticus]], who is composed of:
:* [[Swindle (FOC)#Generations|Swindle]]
:* [[Vortex (FOC)#Generations|Vortex]]
:* [[Brawl (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Brawl]]
:* [[Onslaught (WFC)#Generations|Onslaught]]
:* [[Blast Off (FOC)#Generations|Blast Off]]
=====2013=====
*[[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]] (redeco of Metroplex with two guns and 12 miniature figures of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#SDCCMetroplex|Orion Pax]], [[Megatron (G1)/toys#SDCCMetroplex|Megatron]], [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#SDCCMetroplex|Bumblebee]], [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#SDCCMetroplex|Thundercracker]], [[Trailbreaker (G1)#SDCCMetroplex|Trailcutter]], and [[Hoist (G1)#SDCCMetroplex|Hoist]])
====Hong Kong ACG-CON====
*[[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]] (altered version of SDCC Metroplex)

===Asian retail exclusives ("GDO")===
[[Image:GenerationsAsianDeluxes.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Asian market exclusive packaging for Cliffjumper, Springer, Swerve and Wheelie (top) and North American market ToysЯUs exclusive packaging (bottom).]]
In mid-2012, Hasbro's Asian division released a variety of [[redeco]]s and [[retool]]s in their markets such as China, Singapore and the Philippines. This lineup, which featured the same general packaging design as the 2010–2011 figures, introduced the first non-Deluxe toys in the line (as ''Generations'' had been limited to the Deluxe price point up to that point). Western online retailers referred to these figures under the mysterious term "GDO" (which was later revealed to be an abbreviation for "Global Development Organization"<ref name="gdo">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/637547-i-found-out-what-gdo-means.html TFW2005 thread] containing an answer by Hasbro's customer service regarding the meaning of the term "GDO".</ref>).

Hasbro's United States and Canadian divisions later decided to release all these figures in North America as well, as a ''massive'' batch of [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] exclusives for the 2012 holiday shopping season. Strangely, while the Asian market versions were released in standard English-only packaging, the versions available in the United States and Canada came in [[multilingual packaging|bilingual]] English/Chinese packaging. Also, the Deluxes came packaged in their [[alternate mode]]s, whereas the Asian versions were packaged in robot mode, and the Leader Class figures were only released in Canada, albeit in bilingual ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' packaging with additional ''[[Movie Trilogy Series]]'' labels for whatever reason.

'''Legends Class'''
[[Image:Generationstoy-Bluestreak.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Legends Class Bluestreak, the first toy of the G1 character in over a decade ''not'' named "Silverstreak".]]
* [[Bluestreak (G1)#Generations|Bluestreak]] (retool of ''[[Transformers Chronicle|Chronicle]]'' [[Bluestreak (G1)#Chronicle|Streak]] with a rifle.)
* [[Hoist (G1)#Generations|Hoist]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Trailbreaker (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Trailcutter]] with a blaster.)
* [[Motormaster (G1)#Generations|Motorbreath]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#2010Legend| Optimus Prime]] with a sword.)
* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Legends|Thundercracker]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Starscream]] with two blasters.)

'''Scout Class'''
* [[Sandstorm (G1)#Generations|Sandstorm]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]])
* [[Laserbeak (G1)#Generations|Laserbeak]] (redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]])
* [[Dead End (G1)#Generations|Dead End]] (redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Brakedown (ROTF)|Brakedown]])
* [[Brawl (G1)#Generations|Decepticon Brawl]] (redeco of ''Transformers: [[Hunt for the Decepticons]]'' [[Breacher]])

'''Deluxe Class'''
[[Image:Transformers china hot spot.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Voyager Class "Protectobot Hot Spot", ''not'' named "Hot Zone" unlike previous toys.]]
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)#Generations|Cliffjumper]] (retool of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#First Edition (2011)|Prime: First Edition]]'' [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Prime: First Edition|Cliffjumper]])
* [[Springer (G1)#Generations|Autobot Springer]] (redeco/retool of ''Hunt for the Decepticons'' [[Tomahawk (TF 2010)|Tomahawk]])
* [[Swerve (G1)#Generations|Swerve]] (retool of Sergeant Kup)
* [[Wheelie (G1)#Generations|Wheelie]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Special Ops Jazz]])

'''Voyager Class'''
* [[Powerdive#Generations|Powerdive]] (retool of ''Hunt for the Decepticons'' [[Highbrow (TF 2010)|Highbrow]])
* [[Hot Spot (G1)#Generations|Protectobot Hot Spot]] (retool of ''Universe'' (2008) [[Inferno (G1)#Universe (2008)|Inferno]])
* [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generations|Megatron]] (retool of ''Revenge of the Fallen: [[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' [[Bludgeon (ROTF)#Voyager|Bludgeon]])

'''Leader Class'''
* [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#LeaderG1|Ironhide]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Leader Class toys|Ironhide]])
* [[Starscream (Movie)/toys#LeaderG1|Starscream]] (redeco of ''Hunt for the Decepticons'' [[Starscream (Movie)/toys#Leader Class toys|Starscream]])

===Other===
*"[[Giftset#Ultimate Gift Set|Ultimate Gift Set]]" contains:
**[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#UltimateGiftSet|Combat Hero Optimus Prime]] (redeco of ''Reveal the Shield'' Deluxe Class Optimus Prime)
**[[Jazz (G1)/toys#UltimateGiftSet|Autobot Jazz]] (redeco of Deluxe Class ''Reveal the Shield'' Special Ops Jazz)
**[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#UltimateGiftSet|Thundercracker]] (Legends Class)
**[[Motormaster (G1)#UltimateGiftSet|Motorbreath]] (Legends Class)

{{Note|The Ultimate Gift Set was released at general retail in Hasbro's Asian markets, and was also made available as an online retailer exclusive in the United States.}}

===Canceled exclusives===
* [[Brawn (G1)#Generations|Brawn]] (retool of ''First Edition'' Voyager Class [[Bulkhead (Prime)#FirstEdition|Bulkhead]], intended as part of the GDO lineup)
{{-}}

==Japan==
[[TakaraTomy]] initially had ''[[Transformers United]]'' as their counterpart to the first phase of the ''Generations'' line. In 2012, with the revival of the Hasbro ''Generations'' line, TakaraTomy decided to use the same name for their successor to the ''United'' toyline. Similarly to ''United'', many of the figures have been given "premium" paint jobs, being coated in shiny paint and featuring numerous additional paint details.

[[Image:Generationstoy-TakaraTomy-FOCOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]
'''Wave 1''' ([[December 28]], [[2012]])
*TG-01 [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#FOCtoy|Optimus Prime]]
*TG-02 [[Jazz (WFC)#Generations|Autobot Jazz]]

'''Wave 2''' ([[January 26]], [[2013]])
*TG-03 [[Blast Off (FOC)#Retail|Decepticon Blast Off]]
*TG-04 [[Vortex (FOC)#Retail|Decepticon Vortex]]
*TG-05 [[Brawl (WFC)#Retail|Brawl]]
*TG-06 [[Swindle (FOC)#Retail|Swindle]]
*TG-07 [[Onslaught (WFC)#Retail|Onslaught]]
{{Note|The five Combaticons introduced in wave 2 combine into [[Bruticus (WFC)#Brut|Bruticus]].}}

[[Image:Generationstoy-TakaraTomy-Kickback.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]
'''Wave 3''' ([[February 23]], 2013)
*TG-08 [[Kickback (FOC)#Generations|Kickback]]
*TG-09 [[Starscream (WFC)#Generations|Starscream]]
*TG-10 [[Sideswipe (WFC)#Generations|Sideswipe]]
*TG-11 [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)#Generations|Ultra Magnus]]
*TG-12 [[Fireflight (FOC)#Generations|Air Raid]]

'''Wave 4''' ([[March 23]], 2013)
*TG-13 [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsVoyager|Soundwave]] (with [[Laserbeak (WFC)#Generations|Laserbeak]])
*TG-14 [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsSoundblaster|Soundblaster]] (with [[Buzzsaw (FOC)#Generations|Buzzsaw]])

'''Wave 5''' ([[April 27]], 2013)
*TG-15 Autobot Datadisc Set ([[Eject (FOC)#Japanese|Eject]], [[Ramhorn (FOC)#Japanese|Ramhorn]], [[Rewind (FOC)#Japanese|Rewind]], and [[Sunder (FOC)#Japanese|Sundor]])
*TG-16 Decepticon Datadisc Set ([[Rumble (WFC)#JapaneseDataDisc|Frenzy]], [[Ratbat (WFC)#JapaneseDataDisc|Ratbat]], [[Ravage (WFC)#JapaneseDataDisc|Ravage]], and [[Frenzy (WFC)#JapaneseDataDisc|Rumble]])

'''Wave 6''' ([[May 25]], 2013)
*TG-17 [[Blaster (FOC)#Generations|Blaster]] (with [[Steeljaw (FOC)#Generations|Steeljaw]])
*TG-18 [[Skywarp (WFC)#Generations|Skywarp]] (redeco of Series 01 ''Fall of Cybertron'' Starscream)

[[Image:Generationstoy-TakaraTomy-Ratbat.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Only in Japan, baby. (So far.)]]
'''Wave 7''' ([[June 29]], 2013)
*TG-19 [[Grimlock (WFC)#Generations|Grimlock]]
*TG-20 [[Ratbat (G1)#Generations|Ratbat]] (retool of Scourge)

'''Wave 8''' ([[August 31]], 2013)
*TG-21 [[Springer (G1)#Generations|Springer]]
*TG-22 [[Blitzwing (G1)#Generations|Blitzwing]]

'''Wave 9''' ([[September 28]], 2013)
*TG-23 [[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]]
*TG-24 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#OPandBee|Optimus Prime]] & [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#OPandBee|Bumblebee]] (with [[Blaze Master#OPandBee|Blazemaster]] and [[Roller (G1)#OPandBee|Roller]])

[[File:TTGenerationsTG25OrionPaxMegatronus.jpg|250px|thumb|right|]]
'''Wave 10''' ([[October 26]], 2013)
*TG-25 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#VSMegatronus|Orion Pax]] VS [[Megatron (G1)/toys#VSOrionPax|Megatronus]]

'''Wave 11''' ([[November 30]], 2013)
*TG-26 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#BumblebeeGoldbug|Bumblebee Goldbug]]
*TG-27 [[Trailbreaker (G1)#TrailbreakerHoist2pack|Trailbreaker]] & [[Hoist (G1)#TrailbreakerHoist2pack|Hoist]]

'''Wave 12''' ([[December 28]], 2013)
*TG-28 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#MegatronStarscream2pack|Megatron]] & [[Starscream (G1)/toys#MegatronStarscream2pack|Starscream]] (with [[Chop Shop#MegatronStarscream2pack|Chop Shop]] and [[Waspinator (BW)#MegatronStarscream2pack|Waspinator]])
*TG-29 [[Sandstorm (G1)#Generations|Sandstorm]]

'''Wave 13''' ([[February 22]], 2014)
*TG-30 [[Waspinator (BW)#Deluxe|Waspinator]]
*TG-31 [[Rhinox (BW)#Generations|Rhinox]]

[[File:Generationstoy-TakaraTomy-Mini-ConAssaultTeam.jpg|250px|thumb|right|]]
'''Wave 14''' ([[March 23]], 2014)
*TG-32 [[Mini-Con Assault Team]]
*TG-33 [[Starscream (Armada)#Generations|Armada Starscream]]

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===Exclusives===
*[[Grimlock (WFC)#Generations|Fireblast Grimlock]] (released in BicCamera and Kojima stores on [[March 29]], 2014 )
*[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Thrilling30|Thundercracker]] (released in Edion, Yodobashi Camera, Yamada Denki and Best Denki stores on March 29, 2014)

==Notes==
[[Image:TF2010 deluxe SpecialOpsJazz.jpg|thumb|right|150px||[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|I don't belong here,]] bitches!]]
* During 2010, clicking "War for Cybertron Toys" on Hasbro's ''War For Cybertron'' web page actually brought up the whole ''Generations'' toy line. Looking for ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)| War for Cybertron]]'' toys? Here you go.
* Since the toys in the Generations toyline were initially all Deluxe-sized, the Difficulty Level bar on the front packaging (which indicates how hard it is to convert a toy from mode to mode) now denotes each individual toy's challenge level (Cybertronian Bumblebee, for example, is a Level 4, while Thrust is a Level 2).
* The plastic-coated wire twist-ties, which were normally used to secure a toy in its packaging in past toylines, have been replaced with rattan tie-downs. The paper-based tie-downs are also used in the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'']] toy line and subsequent toy lines moving forward.
* The 2010 ''Transformers'' toy line, particularly the ''[[Reveal the Shield]]'' [[subline imprint]], contains several toys with a design aesthetic similar to the Generations line. This led to confusion when fan expectations were contradicted by official Hasbro announcements. Subsequently, Hasbro released [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations|Wheeljack]], a [[retool]] of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Tracks (G1)|Turbo Tracks]], and [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations|Junkheap]], a retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Wreck-Gar (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Wreck-Gar]], under the ''Generations'' banner, later followed by ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''-inspired redecos of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Special Ops Jazz]] released as part of the "Ultimate Gift Set" and the Asian market/[[Toys"R"Us]] exclusive [[Wheelie (G1)#Generations|Wheelie]] redeco/retool of Special Ops Jazz, all of them also in ''Generations'' packaging, thus further strengthening the ties between the two lines.
* Most of the 2010–2011 ''Generations'' toys (along with several from the 2010 ''Transformers'' toy line) were released by [[TakaraTomy]] in their ''[[Transformers United]]'' toyline. The toys representing [[character]]s who appeared in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]'' (which is part of the [[Aligned continuity family]]) were released as their [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] counterparts in Japan. The waves from 2012 and onward were released under the ''Generations'' banner in Japan as well.
* As the toy list in the article above shows, the 2012-onwards figures were numbered in sequence for each [[size class]] assortment separately. However, the [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]] and [[Wrecker]] combiner teams were also ''additionally'' numbered as members of their respective teams, and the sequences for those two separate sets of numbers are completely inconsistent with each other: For the Combaticons, team members 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 correspond with Deluxe Class Series 1 figures #004, #008, #006, #005 and #007, respectively; and for the Wreckers, team members 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 correspond with Deluxe Class Series 1 figures #014, #016, #018, #017 and #015, respectively. The only consistent system is that each sculpt is given the same number as a team member between both sets.

==Footnotes==
{{Reflist}}

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2014-04-03T12:13:25Z

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Chromia (G1)

2014-04-03T12:01:28Z

Combaticons4ever: /* Toys */ added Generations

{{disambig3|Chromia}}
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:''Chromia is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:TSFAT Chromia robot.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"At least our animated character models didn't have [[Heel struts|high heels]]."]]
'''Chromia''' is a soldier under the command of [[Elita One]] and seems to function as a second-in-command for her, leading the rest of [[Female Autobots|the team]] when Elita's not around. She's brave, hard as nails and, not surprisingly, in a relationship with [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]. She has also taken over from [[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]] as [[Flareup (G1)|Flareup]]'s mentor when the latter turned out to be better suited to more offense-oriented tasks.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Linda Gary]] (English); [[Masako Katsuki]] (Japanese)

[[File:TSFAT Chromia vehicle.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|Cybertronic soccer mom.]]
Four million years ago, Chromia tried to board the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], while it was being attacked, with the rest of Elita One's team. The plan failed though, and she and the others appeared to be destroyed.

[[File:Femaleautobots.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"Okay, Firestar, you go out long, Greenlight, you keep back for defense, and Moonracer, try not to trip or something."]]

Chromia led a mission to steal [[energon cube]]s from [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. When [[Moonracer]] got trapped after disobeying orders, Chromia confronted the alerted Shockwave and managed to trick him into freeing Moonracer.

Shortly thereafter, a team of [[Decepticon]]s from [[Earth]] came to capture Elita One. In doing so, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] destroyed the Female Autobots' underground base, trapping them inside. When they managed to free themselves, Chromia took charge of the search for their missing leader. On their way, they met up with a group of Earth-stationed Autobots who had come looking for [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and Chromia was reunited with Ironhide. The two teams together fought the Decepticons, eventually winning when Optimus and Elita returned. Given a new base by [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], Chromia stayed with Elita's squad on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] when Optimus' team returned to Earth. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}

====MC Axis comics====
Chromia and the rest of the team defeated a gigantic Decepticon. {{storylink|The Transformers (MC Axis manga)|The Transformers: Elita One}}

====''Wings Universe''====
{{Wingsnote}}

[[File:Battlelines6-femaleautobotsandsideburn.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Welp, got left behind, time for a nap.]]
To gather energy for the energy-sapped Autobots, a crew was formed to pilot the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]''. Chromia was to be part of the crew, but a Decepticon attack blocked her and others from reaching the ship before it departed. Soon after, as their current reserve of energies was dangerously low, Chromia joined her comrades still on the planet in stasis hibernation as an energy-saving measure. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 6}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
Chromia was a member of an elite squad of five warriors under the command of the [[Quintesson]]s.

{{note|[[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] filed for bankruptcy and stopped producing ''Transformers'' books right as the Female 'Autobots' story arc was beginning. A few details of [[Unreleased Dreamwave issues#Generation One|Generation One #11]] are known because [[Don Figueroa]] published the line-art of the comic up to page 9 on his DeviantArt account. 
[[The Route of All Evil|Following a report]] from their Autobot sleeper agent, [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], that the awaited situation to commence their mission had come, [[Elita One]] used a [[space bridge]] to get to the [[Autobase]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Chromia and the others waited patiently for her to signal that they could follow. Chromia joined her commander soon after it came. With only [[Firestar (G1)|Firestar]] still to get through the portal, the group was attacked by [[Gnaw]], but [[Moonracer]] and Elita One took care of that. While the rest of the team went further into the Autobot facility, Chromia was sent back to [[Quintessa]] with an unconscious [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]].}}

===Descent into Evil===
[[File:Chromia-DIE.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Just off-panel: Virulent Clone with apple on head.]]
Chromia and her ward [[Flareup (G1)|Flareup]] were part of an Autobot strike force tasked with destroying the [[Decepticon]] general [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]' cloning lab on [[Ceti Alpha Seven]]. Although the pair had handily beaten Deathsaurus's [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] underling [[Buzzclaw (G1)|Buzzclaw]] on [[Regulon Four]] some time previous, they were taken by surprise by the first production run of clones. Although Chromia fought effectively against the clones, she was no match for Deathsaurus himself when he entered the battle personally. Falling before the general's might, she was taken captive.

Chromia, along with her teammates ''and'' the backup team of Ironhide and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], was ultimately rescued when [[Ricochet (Timelines)|Ricochet]], who had evaded capture, came to the rescue of the entire Autobot party. {{storylink|Descent into Evil}}

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===IDW ''Generation 1'' continuity===
[[File:Bumper-funeral.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|Ironhide's not gonna remember me, is he. Gonna pull that "Oh, I died but was brought back with missing memories" schtick again.]]
Chromia attended [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]]'s funeral with Ironhide. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}}

In the modern era, Chromia, [[Nautica]], and their leader [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] joined the crew of the ''[[Vis Vitalis]]'' shortly before it crossed paths with [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]]. The legendary Autobot was preoccupied with an important quest, so the three volunteered to watch after [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] for him and keep him alive. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} Under their watch, Metroplex's insides were besieged with invaders, so Chromia and Nautica hunted them down to confront them and fight them off, if necessary. They found a small group of robots and Chromia threatened to put the hurt down on them. {{storylink|The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|The Dead Are Not Enough}}

Their adversaries turned out to be fellow Autobots from the ''[[Lost Light]]'' who were battling an army of angered [[Ammonite]]s. Chromia and Nautica led them back to their boss, Windblade, who explained their mission, and subsequently the ''Lost Light'' was able to give Metroplex a jump, allowing him to [[spacebridge]] back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
[[File:Chromia-Legends.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Huh! Vehicle kibble!]]
Chromia was part of [[Elita One|Elita 1]]'s team which carried out a series of raids on Decepticon installations, until they were taken down in a trap planned by [[Flamewar (G1)|Flamewar]]. {{storylink|Fatal Furies}}
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==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[File:Chromiatoydie.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|upright=1.66|Don't you hate it when you show up at a party and your friend arrived in the same deco?]]
* '''Descent into Evil''' (multi-pack, 2005)
**''Accessories'': Launcher, missile, scope, 2 tailpipes, energon chip

: Available only as part of [[BotCon 2005]]'s "Descent into Evil" set (along with [[Buzzclaw (G1)|Buzzclaw]], [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], [[Dirge (Timelines)|Dirge]], [[Outback (G1)|Fallback]], [[Ironhide (G1)/toys|Ironhide]] and [[Ricochet (Timelines)|Ricochet]]), Chromia is a [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]], transforming into a Cybertronic racing motorcycle. She has multiple clear-plastic "[[energon]]" parts that form side-thrusters in bike mode, and combine to form a massive compound bow with a spring-loaded missile.

: The toy was originally intended to be [[Moonracer]], but [[Fun Publications]] could not secure the [[trademark]] on the name. As such, Chromia's toy is in Moonracer's teal and white colors and has a head that resembles Moonracer's. (Fun Publications' intent was for the head to be a compromise between the Moonracer and Firestar head designs.)<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/e39fbfb4b4bd2b3a alt.toys.transformers post] by [[Lanny Lathem]] explaining the Moonracer/Chromia SNAFU.</ref><ref>[http://www.bwtf.com/toyreviews/timelines/descent/chromia Chromia toy notes at BWTF.com]</ref> Later Fun Publications stories would [[repurposing|repurpose]] the Chromia toy as Moonracer.

: Her base mold is also used by [[Flamewar (G1)|Flamewar]] and the [[Movie (toyline)|live-action movieverse]] [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] and [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]], while the Chromia-retooled version is also used by [[Flareup (G1)|Flareup]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/BCChromia/chromia.htm More information on Chromia at TFU.info]''
==Generations==
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==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Chromia''' (クロミア ''Kuromia'')

==References==
<references />

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/BCChromia/chromia.htm Chromia at TFU.info]
* [http://www.transformersclub.com/chromiapreview.cfm Chromia at TransformersClub.com]
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Transformers: Generations (toyline)

2014-04-03T11:58:17Z

Combaticons4ever: Linked Everything to their Generations toys

{{disambig3|Generations}}
[[Image:TF-Generations-logo.jpg|350px|center]]
'''''Transformers: Generations''''' is a line of figures launched in 2010. Like the earlier 2006 ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' and 2008 [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|''Universe'']] lines, along with much of the 2010 [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|''Transformers'']] line, it aims to recreate older ''Transformers'' characters as new toys and celebrate the history of the brand.

During the 2010–2011 portion of the line, the toys, of [[Size class|Deluxe Class]] only, were a mixture of designs from the concurrently released ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]'' video game, the “modernised G1” style of the ''Classics'' and ''Universe'' toylines, and the odd figure inspired by the character models of [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW's ongoing Generation 1 comic storyline]]. The earlier waves of figures sported advertising for [[The Hub]] or ''War for Cybertron''.

After a hiatus during the height of the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|''Dark of the Moon'' franchise]], the line returned in full force in 2012, with a range based on the ''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'' video game. Continuing into 2013, the line was expanded to include both Voyager and Legends Class toys. Unlike the old [[Legends Class]], which had been absorbed into the ''[[Cyberverse]]'' range under the new name "Legion Class", the new "Legends Class" assortment consisted of two-packs that varied between two equally-sized [[data disc]]/[[Deployer (WFC)|Deployer]] figures, each roughly the same size as an old Legends figure, and a larger toy roughly the size of a ''Cyberverse'' Commander Class figure with a smaller companion figure.

In celebration of the 30th anniversary of the [[Transformers brand|brand]], the line was refreshed in mid-2013 as part of Hasbro’s ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' campaign, with a heavy focus on translating [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] designs into toys for all three size classes, alongside some ''Classics''/''Universe''-style redesigns. In addition, all ''Thrilling 30'' Deluxe Class toys include a full comic issue – initially ''[[The Transformers: Spotlight|Spotlight]]'' issues for the relevant character, and subsequently issues tying into the “[[Dark Cybertron]]” event storyline.

==2010–2011==
===Deluxe Class===
[[Image:Generations Drift toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|RETRIBUTION!]]
'''Wave 1'''
* [[Bumblebee (WFC)#Generations|Cybertronian Bumblebee]] (''War for Cybertron'')
* [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#Generations|Cybertronian Optimus Prime]] (''War for Cybertron'')
* [[Drift (G1)#Generations|Autobot Drift]]
* [[Thrust (G1)#Generations|Thrust]] ([[redeco]] of ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)#Gentei! Gentei!|Gentei! Gentei!]]'' [[Thrust (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|Thrust]])

{{note|[[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] and online retailers like Entertainment Earth and [[BigBadToyStore]] received special cases containing only Cybertronian Optimus Prime and Cybertronian Bumblebee as a promotional tie in for the release of the ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]'' video game before the general release of the ''Generations'' toyline.}}

[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|250px|I'm just a miner.]]
'''Wave 2'''
* [[Megatron (WFC)#Generations|Cybertronian Megatron]] (''War for Cybertron'')
* [[Straxus (G1)#Generations|Darkmount]]

'''Wave 3'''
* [[Soundwave (WFC)#Generations|Cybertronian Soundwave]] (''War for Cybertron'')
* [[Red Alert (G1)#Generations|Red Alert]] ([[retool]] of [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|''Universe'' (2008)]] [[Sideswipe (G1)#Universe (2008)|Sideswipe]])

'''Wave 4'''
* [[Blurr (G1)#Generations|Blurr]] (retool of Drift)
* [[Dirge (G1)#Generations|Dirge]] (redeco of ''Gentei! Gentei!'' [[Dirge (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|Dirge]])

[[Image:Generationstoy-Thunderwing.jpg|right|thumb|250px|And that's when Hasbro ran out of [[The Transformers: The Movie|movie-era]] Decepticons.]]
'''Wave 5'''
* [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Generations|Cliffjumper]] (''War for Cybertron'', retool of Cybertronian Bumblebee)
* [[Skullgrin#Generations|Skullgrin]] (retool of Darkmount)
* [[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations|Thunderwing]]

'''Wave 6'''
* [[Scourge (G1)#Generations|Scourge]]
* [[Kup (G1)#Generations|Sergeant Kup]]

[[Image:Generationstoy-Warpath.jpg|right|thumb|250px|That's it, we're done!]]
'''Wave 7'''
* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Generations|Thundercracker]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|Starscream]])
* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations|Wheeljack]] (retool of ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]: [[Reveal the Shield]]'' [[Tracks (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Turbo Tracks]])

'''Wave 8'''
* [[Warpath (G1)#Generations|Warpath]]

'''Wave 9'''
* [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations|Junkheap]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Wreck-Gar (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Wreck-Gar]])
* [[Black Shadow (Victory)#Generations|Sky Shadow]] (retool of Thunderwing)
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==2012–2014==
===Legends Class===
'''Series 01 (''Fall of Cybertron'')'''
[[Image:GenerationsFOCRamhorn.JPG|right|thumb|250px|You'll need more than a glass of water to swallow ''this'' tablet.]]
'''Wave 1'''
* #001 [[Ravage (WFC)#Generations|Ravage]] & [[Rumble (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Rumble]]
* #002 [[Frenzy (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Frenzy]] (redeco of #001 Decepticon Rumble) & [[Ratbat (WFC)#Generations|Ratbat]] (retool of Laserbeak from Voyager Class Soundwave)

'''Wave 2'''
* #003 [[Eject (FOC)#Generations|Eject]] (retool of #001 Decepticon Rumble) & [[Ramhorn (FOC)#Generations|Ramhorn]]
* #004 [[Rewind (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Rewind]] (redeco of #003 Eject) & [[Sunder (FOC)#Generations|Sunder]] (redeco of Laserbeak from Voyager Class Soundwave)

'''Series 02 (''Thrilling 30'')'''
[[Image:Generationstoy-T30-LegendsMegatronChopShop.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Still just a miner, but hey, check out this bug I found!]]
'''Wave 3'''
* #001 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Legends|Optimus Prime]] & [[Roller (G1)#Generations|Autobot Roller]]
* #002 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Generations|Bumblebee]] & [[Blaze Master#Generations|Blazemaster]]

'''Wave 4'''
* #003 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Generations|Starscream]] & [[Waspinator (BW)#Generations|Waspinator]]
* #004 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generations|Megatron]] & [[Chop Shop#Generations|Chop Shop]]

'''Wave 5'''
* #005 [[Swerve (G1)#Generations|Swerve]] & [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations|Flanker]]
* #006 [[Cosmos (G1)#Generations|Autobot Cosmos]] & [[Blast Master#Generations|Payload]]

'''Wave 6'''
* #007 [[Shrapnel (G1)#Generations|Skrapnel]] & [[Reflector (G1)#Generations|Reflector]]
* #008 [[Tailgate (G1)#Generations|Tailgate]] & [[Neutro#Generations|Groundbuster]]

'''Wave 7'''
* [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] & [[Eagle Eye (G1)|Eclipse]] (retool of #005 Swerve & Flanker)
* [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] & [[Venom (G1)|Venin]] (redeco of #003 Starscream & Waspinator)
{{comingsoontoy}}
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===Deluxe Class===
'''Series 01 (''Fall of Cybertron'')'''
[[Image:Generationstoy-OptimusPrimeFOC.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Another line, another Prime.]]
'''Wave 1'''
* #001 [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#FOCtoy|Optimus Prime]]
* #002 [[Jazz (WFC)#Generations|Autobot Jazz]]
* #003 [[Shockwave (WFC)#Generations|Shockwave]]

'''Wave 2'''
* #004 [[Onslaught (WFC)#Retail|Onslaught]] (Part 1 of 5: [[Bruticus (WFC)#Brut|Decepticon Bruticus]])
* #005 [[Swindle (FOC)#Retail|Swindle]] (Part 4 of 5: Decepticon Bruticus)
* #006 [[Vortex (FOC)#Retail|Vortex]] (Part 3 of 5: Decepticon Bruticus)
* #007 [[Brawl (WFC)#Retail|Decepticon Brawl]] (Part 5 of 5: Decepticon Bruticus)
* #008 [[Blast Off (FOC)#Retail|Blast Off]] (Part 2 of 5: Decepticon Bruticus)
{{Note|The five [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticons]] introduced in wave 2 combine into Bruticus.}}

[[Image:Generationstoy-Ruination.jpg|right|thumb|250px|And [[Rotorstorm (G1)|Rotorstorm]] gets the last laugh.]]
'''Wave 3'''
* #009 [[Kickback (FOC)#Generations|Kickback]]
* #010 [[Starscream (WFC)#Generations|Starscream]]
* #011 [[Sideswipe (WFC)#Generations|Sideswipe]] (retool of #002 Jazz)
* #012 [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)#Generations|Ultra Magnus]] (retool of #001 Optimus Prime)
* #013 [[Fireflight (FOC)#Generations|Air Raid]] (retool of #003 Shockwave)

'''Wave 4'''
* #014 [[Impactor (Prime)#Generations|Impactor]] (Part 1 of 5: [[Ruination (FOC)|Ruination]]; retool of #004 Onslaught)
* #015 [[Twintwist#Generations|Twintwist]] (Part 5 of 5: Ruination; retool of #007 Decepticon Brawl)
* #016 [[Topspin (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Topspin]] (Part 2 of 5: Ruination; retool of #008 Blast Off)
* #017 [[Roadbuster (Prime)#Generations|Roadbuster]] (Part 4 of 5: Ruination; retool of #005 Swindle)
* #018 [[Whirl (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Whirl]] (Part 3 of 5: Ruination; retool of #006 Vortex)
{{Note|The five [[Wrecker]]s introduced in wave 4 combine into Ruination.}}

'''Series 02 (''Thrilling 30'')'''
[[File:Generations trailcutter(trailbreaker).jpg|thumb|250px|[[Nightmare Fuel|Liquor]] bottle accessories sold separately.]]
'''Wave 5'''
* #001 [[Trailbreaker (G1)#Generations|Trailcutter]] with ''[[The Reluctant Specialist|Spotlight: Trailcutter]]''
* #002 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Deluxe|Orion Pax]] with ''[[Omega's Conundrum|Spotlight: Orion Pax]]''
* #003 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Deluxe|Megatron]] with ''[[Spotlight: Megatron]]''
* #004 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Deluxe|Bumblebee]] with ''[[The Question|Spotlight: Bumblebee]]''

'''Wave 6'''
* #005 [[Hoist (G1)#Deluxe|Hoist]] (retool of #001 Trailcutter) with ''[[The Waiting Game|Spotlight: Hoist]]''
* #006 [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Thrilling30|Thundercracker]] (redeco of Series 01 Starscream) with ''[[The Hunting Party (IDW)|Spotlight: Thundercracker]]''

'''Wave 7'''
* #007 [[Dreadwing (G2)#Generations|Dreadwing]] (retool of #003 Megatron) with [[Shockwaves|''Robots in Disguise'' #17]]
* #008 [[Waspinator (BW)#Generations|Waspinator]] with [[Homecoming (IDW)|''Robots in Disguise'' #19]]
* #009 [[Skids (G1)#Generations|Autobot Skids]] with [[Little_Victories|''More than Meets the Eye'' #22]]
* #010 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Generations|Goldfire]] (retool of #004 Bumblebee) with [[Second Exodus|''Robots in Disguise'' #18]]

[[File:Scoop-deluxe-generations.jpg|thumb|250px|]]
'''Wave 8'''
* #011 [[Starscream (Armada)#Generations|''Armada'' Starscream]] (new sculpt) with [[Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|''Dark Cybertron'' #1]]
* #012 [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Generations|Skywarp]] (redeco of Series 01 Starscream) with [[Winners & Losers: Dark Cybertron Chapter 3|''Robots in Disguise'' #23]]
* #013 [[Mini-Con Assault Team]] ([[Heavytread (Generations)|Heavytread]], [[Runway (Generations)|Runway]] and [[Windshear]]; merge to form [[Centuritron]]) with [[Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|''More than Meets the Eye'' #24]]
* #014 [[Scoop (G1)#Generations|Autobot Scoop]] with [[Holepunch (G1)|Holepunch]] and [[Tracer (Nebulan)|Caliburst]] and with [[Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|''More than Meets the Eye'' #23]]

[[File:Generationstoy-Rattrap.jpg|right|thumb|250px]]
'''Wave 9'''
* [[Rattrap (BW)#Generations|Rattrap]] with [[Finest Hour: Dark Cybertron Chapter 5|''Robots in Disguise'' #24]]
* [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]] (retool of #009 Skids) with [[The Dead Are Not Enough: Dark Cybertron Chapter 7|''Robots in Disguise'' #25]]
* [[Tankor (BM)#Generations|Tankor]] with [[No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6|''More than Meets the Eye'' #25]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

[[File:Generationstoy-Windblade.jpg|right|thumb|250px]]
'''Wave 10'''
* [[Nightbeat (G1)#Generations|Nightbeat]] (retool of #004 Bumblebee)
* [[Jhiaxus (G2)#Generations|Jhiaxus]] (retool of #011 Armada Starscream)
* [[Windblade (G1)#Generations|Windblade]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

'''Wave 11'''
* [[Arcee (G1)#Generations|Arcee]]
* [[Chromia (G1)#Generations|Chromia]]
{{comingsoontoy}}
{{-}}

===Voyager Class===
'''Series 01 (''Fall of Cybertron'')'''
[[Image:Generations-SoundwaveVoyager.jpg|right|thumb|250px|This time, I brought backup!]]
'''Wave 1'''
* #001 [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsVoyager|Soundwave]] with [[Laserbeak (WFC)#Generations|Laserbeak]]
* #002 [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsSoundblaster|Soundblaster]] (redeco of #001 Soundwave) with [[Buzzsaw (FOC)|Buzzsaw]] (redeco of #001 Laserbeak)

'''Wave 2'''
* #003 [[Grimlock (WFC)#Generations|Grimlock]]
* #004 [[Blaster (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Blaster]] (retool of #001 Soundwave) with [[Steeljaw (FOC)|Steeljaw]] (retool of #001 Ravage)

'''Series 02 (''Thrilling 30'')'''

'''Wave 3'''
* #001 [[Springer (G1)#Voyager|Autobot Springer]]
* #002 [[Blitzwing (G1)#Generations|Blitzwing]]

'''Wave 4'''
* #003 [[Sandstorm (G1)#Voyager|Sandstorm]] (retool of #001 Springer)

'''Wave 5'''
* #004 [[Doubledealer#Generations|Decepticon Doubledealer]] (retool of #002 Blitzwing)
* #005 [[Rhinox (BW)#Generations|Rhinox]]

'''Wave 6'''
* #006 [[Whirl (G1)#Generations|Autobot Whirl]]
{{-}}

'''Wave 7'''
*[[Sky-Byte (RID)#Generations|Sky-Byte]]
*[[Roadbuster (G1)#Generations|Roadbuster]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

===Leader Class===
* [[Jetfire (G1)#Generations|Jetfire]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

===Titan Class===
[[Image:Generationstoy-MetroplexTitanClass.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Come oooon, Trypticon!]]
'''Wave 1'''
* [[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]]
{{Note|Metroplex's [[packaging]] is completely lacking the ''Generations'' moniker, instead simply branding the toy as ''Transformers'' while still sporting the ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' logo. The [[instructions]], however, do sport the ''Generations'' logo.}}

{{-}}

==Exclusives==
===Convention exclusives===
[[Image:Generationstoy-T30-Metroplex-HKACGCON.jpg|right|thumb|250px|If you think ''this'' is huge, wait until you see his aftermarket prices...]]
====San Diego Comic-Con====
=====2012=====
*[[Bruticus (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Bruticus]], who is composed of:
:* [[Swindle (FOC)#Generations|Swindle]]
:* [[Vortex (FOC)#Generations|Vortex]]
:* [[Brawl (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Brawl]]
:* [[Onslaught (WFC)#Generations|Onslaught]]
:* [[Blast Off (FOC)#Generations|Blast Off]]
=====2013=====
*[[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]] (redeco of Metroplex with two guns and 12 miniature figures of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#SDCCMetroplex|Orion Pax]], [[Megatron (G1)/toys#SDCCMetroplex|Megatron]], [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#SDCCMetroplex|Bumblebee]], [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#SDCCMetroplex|Thundercracker]], [[Trailbreaker (G1)#SDCCMetroplex|Trailcutter]], and [[Hoist (G1)#SDCCMetroplex|Hoist]])
====Hong Kong ACG-CON====
*[[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]] (altered version of SDCC Metroplex)

===Asian retail exclusives ("GDO")===
[[Image:GenerationsAsianDeluxes.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Asian market exclusive packaging for Cliffjumper, Springer, Swerve and Wheelie (top) and North American market ToysЯUs exclusive packaging (bottom).]]
In mid-2012, Hasbro's Asian division released a variety of [[redeco]]s and [[retool]]s in their markets such as China, Singapore and the Philippines. This lineup, which featured the same general packaging design as the 2010–2011 figures, introduced the first non-Deluxe toys in the line (as ''Generations'' had been limited to the Deluxe price point up to that point). Western online retailers referred to these figures under the mysterious term "GDO" (which was later revealed to be an abbreviation for "Global Development Organization"<ref name="gdo">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/637547-i-found-out-what-gdo-means.html TFW2005 thread] containing an answer by Hasbro's customer service regarding the meaning of the term "GDO".</ref>).

Hasbro's United States and Canadian divisions later decided to release all these figures in North America as well, as a ''massive'' batch of [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] exclusives for the 2012 holiday shopping season. Strangely, while the Asian market versions were released in standard English-only packaging, the versions available in the United States and Canada came in [[multilingual packaging|bilingual]] English/Chinese packaging. Also, the Deluxes came packaged in their [[alternate mode]]s, whereas the Asian versions were packaged in robot mode, and the Leader Class figures were only released in Canada, albeit in bilingual ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' packaging with additional ''[[Movie Trilogy Series]]'' labels for whatever reason.

'''Legends Class'''
[[Image:Generationstoy-Bluestreak.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Legends Class Bluestreak, the first toy of the G1 character in over a decade ''not'' named "Silverstreak".]]
* [[Bluestreak (G1)#Generations|Bluestreak]] (retool of ''[[Transformers Chronicle|Chronicle]]'' [[Bluestreak (G1)#Chronicle|Streak]] with a rifle.)
* [[Hoist (G1)#Generations|Hoist]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Trailbreaker (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Trailcutter]] with a blaster.)
* [[Motormaster (G1)#Generations|Motorbreath]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#2010Legend| Optimus Prime]] with a sword.)
* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Legends|Thundercracker]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Starscream]] with two blasters.)

'''Scout Class'''
* [[Sandstorm (G1)#Generations|Sandstorm]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]])
* [[Laserbeak (G1)#Generations|Laserbeak]] (redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]])
* [[Dead End (G1)#Generations|Dead End]] (redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Brakedown (ROTF)|Brakedown]])
* [[Brawl (G1)#Generations|Decepticon Brawl]] (redeco of ''Transformers: [[Hunt for the Decepticons]]'' [[Breacher]])

'''Deluxe Class'''
[[Image:Transformers china hot spot.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Voyager Class "Protectobot Hot Spot", ''not'' named "Hot Zone" unlike previous toys.]]
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)#Generations|Cliffjumper]] (retool of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#First Edition (2011)|Prime: First Edition]]'' [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Prime: First Edition|Cliffjumper]])
* [[Springer (G1)#Generations|Autobot Springer]] (redeco/retool of ''Hunt for the Decepticons'' [[Tomahawk (TF 2010)|Tomahawk]])
* [[Swerve (G1)#Generations|Swerve]] (retool of Sergeant Kup)
* [[Wheelie (G1)#Generations|Wheelie]] (retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Special Ops Jazz]])

'''Voyager Class'''
* [[Powerdive#Generations|Powerdive]] (retool of ''Hunt for the Decepticons'' [[Highbrow (TF 2010)|Highbrow]])
* [[Hot Spot (G1)#Generations|Protectobot Hot Spot]] (retool of ''Universe'' (2008) [[Inferno (G1)#Universe (2008)|Inferno]])
* [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generations|Megatron]] (retool of ''Revenge of the Fallen: [[N.E.S.T. Global Alliance]]'' [[Bludgeon (ROTF)#Voyager|Bludgeon]])

'''Leader Class'''
* [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#LeaderG1|Ironhide]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Leader Class toys|Ironhide]])
* [[Starscream (Movie)/toys#LeaderG1|Starscream]] (redeco of ''Hunt for the Decepticons'' [[Starscream (Movie)/toys#Leader Class toys|Starscream]])

===Other===
*"[[Giftset#Ultimate Gift Set|Ultimate Gift Set]]" contains:
**[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#UltimateGiftSet|Combat Hero Optimus Prime]] (redeco of ''Reveal the Shield'' Deluxe Class Optimus Prime)
**[[Jazz (G1)/toys#UltimateGiftSet|Autobot Jazz]] (redeco of Deluxe Class ''Reveal the Shield'' Special Ops Jazz)
**[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#UltimateGiftSet|Thundercracker]] (Legends Class)
**[[Motormaster (G1)#UltimateGiftSet|Motorbreath]] (Legends Class)

{{Note|The Ultimate Gift Set was released at general retail in Hasbro's Asian markets, and was also made available as an online retailer exclusive in the United States.}}

===Canceled exclusives===
* [[Brawn (G1)#Generations|Brawn]] (retool of ''First Edition'' Voyager Class [[Bulkhead (Prime)#FirstEdition|Bulkhead]], intended as part of the GDO lineup)
{{-}}

==Japan==
[[TakaraTomy]] initially had ''[[Transformers United]]'' as their counterpart to the first phase of the ''Generations'' line. In 2012, with the revival of the Hasbro ''Generations'' line, TakaraTomy decided to use the same name for their successor to the ''United'' toyline. Similarly to ''United'', many of the figures have been given "premium" paint jobs, being coated in shiny paint and featuring numerous additional paint details.

[[Image:Generationstoy-TakaraTomy-FOCOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]
'''Wave 1''' ([[December 28]], [[2012]])
*TG-01 [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#FOCtoy|Optimus Prime]]
*TG-02 [[Jazz (WFC)#Generations|Autobot Jazz]]

'''Wave 2''' ([[January 26]], [[2013]])
*TG-03 [[Blast Off (FOC)#Retail|Decepticon Blast Off]]
*TG-04 [[Vortex (FOC)#Retail|Decepticon Vortex]]
*TG-05 [[Brawl (WFC)#Retail|Brawl]]
*TG-06 [[Swindle (FOC)#Retail|Swindle]]
*TG-07 [[Onslaught (WFC)#Retail|Onslaught]]
{{Note|The five Combaticons introduced in wave 2 combine into [[Bruticus (WFC)#Brut|Bruticus]].}}

[[Image:Generationstoy-TakaraTomy-Kickback.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]
'''Wave 3''' ([[February 23]], 2013)
*TG-08 [[Kickback (FOC)#Generations|Kickback]]
*TG-09 [[Starscream (WFC)#Generations|Starscream]]
*TG-10 [[Sideswipe (WFC)#Generations|Sideswipe]]
*TG-11 [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)#Generations|Ultra Magnus]]
*TG-12 [[Fireflight (FOC)#Generations|Air Raid]]

'''Wave 4''' ([[March 23]], 2013)
*TG-13 [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsVoyager|Soundwave]] (with [[Laserbeak (WFC)#Generations|Laserbeak]])
*TG-14 [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsSoundblaster|Soundblaster]] (with [[Buzzsaw (FOC)#Generations|Buzzsaw]])

'''Wave 5''' ([[April 27]], 2013)
*TG-15 Autobot Datadisc Set ([[Eject (FOC)#Japanese|Eject]], [[Ramhorn (FOC)#Japanese|Ramhorn]], [[Rewind (FOC)#Japanese|Rewind]], and [[Sunder (FOC)#Japanese|Sundor]])
*TG-16 Decepticon Datadisc Set ([[Rumble (WFC)#JapaneseDataDisc|Frenzy]], [[Ratbat (WFC)#JapaneseDataDisc|Ratbat]], [[Ravage (WFC)#JapaneseDataDisc|Ravage]], and [[Frenzy (WFC)#JapaneseDataDisc|Rumble]])

'''Wave 6''' ([[May 25]], 2013)
*TG-17 [[Blaster (FOC)#Generations|Blaster]] (with [[Steeljaw (FOC)#Generations|Steeljaw]])
*TG-18 [[Skywarp (WFC)#Generations|Skywarp]] (redeco of Series 01 ''Fall of Cybertron'' Starscream)

[[Image:Generationstoy-TakaraTomy-Ratbat.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Only in Japan, baby. (So far.)]]
'''Wave 7''' ([[June 29]], 2013)
*TG-19 [[Grimlock (WFC)#Generations|Grimlock]]
*TG-20 [[Ratbat (G1)#Generations|Ratbat]] (retool of Scourge)

'''Wave 8''' ([[August 31]], 2013)
*TG-21 [[Springer (G1)#Generations|Springer]]
*TG-22 [[Blitzwing (G1)#Generations|Blitzwing]]

'''Wave 9''' ([[September 28]], 2013)
*TG-23 [[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]]
*TG-24 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#OPandBee|Optimus Prime]] & [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#OPandBee|Bumblebee]] (with [[Blaze Master#OPandBee|Blazemaster]] and [[Roller (G1)#OPandBee|Roller]])

[[File:TTGenerationsTG25OrionPaxMegatronus.jpg|250px|thumb|right|]]
'''Wave 10''' ([[October 26]], 2013)
*TG-25 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#VSMegatronus|Orion Pax]] VS [[Megatron (G1)/toys#VSOrionPax|Megatronus]]

'''Wave 11''' ([[November 30]], 2013)
*TG-26 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#BumblebeeGoldbug|Bumblebee Goldbug]]
*TG-27 [[Trailbreaker (G1)#TrailbreakerHoist2pack|Trailbreaker]] & [[Hoist (G1)#TrailbreakerHoist2pack|Hoist]]

'''Wave 12''' ([[December 28]], 2013)
*TG-28 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#MegatronStarscream2pack|Megatron]] & [[Starscream (G1)/toys#MegatronStarscream2pack|Starscream]] (with [[Chop Shop#MegatronStarscream2pack|Chop Shop]] and [[Waspinator (BW)#MegatronStarscream2pack|Waspinator]])
*TG-29 [[Sandstorm (G1)#Generations|Sandstorm]]

'''Wave 13''' ([[February 22]], 2014)
*TG-30 [[Waspinator (BW)#Deluxe|Waspinator]]
*TG-31 [[Rhinox (BW)#Generations|Rhinox]]

[[File:Generationstoy-TakaraTomy-Mini-ConAssaultTeam.jpg|250px|thumb|right|]]
'''Wave 14''' ([[March 23]], 2014)
*TG-32 [[Mini-Con Assault Team]]
*TG-33 [[Starscream (Armada)#Generations|Armada Starscream]]

{{-}}

===Exclusives===
*[[Grimlock (WFC)#Generations|Fireblast Grimlock]] (released in BicCamera and Kojima stores on [[March 29]], 2014 )
*[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Thrilling30|Thundercracker]] (released in Edion, Yodobashi Camera, Yamada Denki and Best Denki stores on March 29, 2014)

==Notes==
[[Image:TF2010 deluxe SpecialOpsJazz.jpg|thumb|right|150px||[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|I don't belong here,]] bitches!]]
* During 2010, clicking "War for Cybertron Toys" on Hasbro's ''War For Cybertron'' web page actually brought up the whole ''Generations'' toy line. Looking for ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)| War for Cybertron]]'' toys? Here you go.
* Since the toys in the Generations toyline were initially all Deluxe-sized, the Difficulty Level bar on the front packaging (which indicates how hard it is to convert a toy from mode to mode) now denotes each individual toy's challenge level (Cybertronian Bumblebee, for example, is a Level 4, while Thrust is a Level 2).
* The plastic-coated wire twist-ties, which were normally used to secure a toy in its packaging in past toylines, have been replaced with rattan tie-downs. The paper-based tie-downs are also used in the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'']] toy line and subsequent toy lines moving forward.
* The 2010 ''Transformers'' toy line, particularly the ''[[Reveal the Shield]]'' [[subline imprint]], contains several toys with a design aesthetic similar to the Generations line. This led to confusion when fan expectations were contradicted by official Hasbro announcements. Subsequently, Hasbro released [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations|Wheeljack]], a [[retool]] of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Tracks (G1)|Turbo Tracks]], and [[Junkyard (G1)#Generations|Junkheap]], a retool of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Wreck-Gar (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Wreck-Gar]], under the ''Generations'' banner, later followed by ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''-inspired redecos of ''Reveal the Shield'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Special Ops Jazz]] released as part of the "Ultimate Gift Set" and the Asian market/[[Toys"R"Us]] exclusive [[Wheelie (G1)#Generations|Wheelie]] redeco/retool of Special Ops Jazz, all of them also in ''Generations'' packaging, thus further strengthening the ties between the two lines.
* Most of the 2010–2011 ''Generations'' toys (along with several from the 2010 ''Transformers'' toy line) were released by [[TakaraTomy]] in their ''[[Transformers United]]'' toyline. The toys representing [[character]]s who appeared in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]'' (which is part of the [[Aligned continuity family]]) were released as their [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] counterparts in Japan. The waves from 2012 and onward were released under the ''Generations'' banner in Japan as well.
* As the toy list in the article above shows, the 2012-onwards figures were numbered in sequence for each [[size class]] assortment separately. However, the [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]] and [[Wrecker]] combiner teams were also ''additionally'' numbered as members of their respective teams, and the sequences for those two separate sets of numbers are completely inconsistent with each other: For the Combaticons, team members 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 correspond with Deluxe Class Series 1 figures #004, #008, #006, #005 and #007, respectively; and for the Wreckers, team members 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 correspond with Deluxe Class Series 1 figures #014, #016, #018, #017 and #015, respectively. The only consistent system is that each sculpt is given the same number as a team member between both sets.

==Footnotes==
{{Reflist}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Generations}}
[[Category:Franchises]]
[[Category:Generation 1 franchises]]
[[Category:Generations| ]]
[[Category:Toylines]]

Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark (console)

2014-03-27T01:58:53Z

Combaticons4ever: adding G1 Optimus and the trailer that shows he will be included (although he appears to be just a reskin of other two)

'''''Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark''''' is a video game jointly-created by both [[Hasbro]] and [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], to be released sometime later in [[2014]]. Developed by [[Edge of Reality]] for the PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Wii U and PC and by [[WayForward Technologies]] for the Nintendo 3DS<ref>[http://www.examiner.com/article/transformers-rise-of-the-dark-spark-announced-3ds-version-to-be-strategy-rpg "Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark" announced; 3DS version to be Strategy RPG]</ref>, it appears to incorporate elements of both the ''Transformers'' [[Live-action film series|film franchise]] and the ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]]''/''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'' games.

==Confirmed characters==
{{featuredcharacters|
h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
*Optimus Prime ([[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Movie]] and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Aligned]] with [[Optimus Prime (G1)|G1 (bonus reskin(?))]]) ([[Peter Cullen]])
*Bumblebee ([[Bumblebee (Movie)|Movie]])
*Grimlock ([[Grimlock (AOE)|Movie]])
*Jetfire ([[Jetfire (WFC)|Aligned]])
*Sideswipe ([[Sideswipe (WFC)|Aligned]])
|c2=
*Shockwave ([[Shockwave (WFC)|Aligned]])
*Soundwave ([[Soundwave (WFC)|Aligned]])
*Swindle ([[Swindle (FOC)|Aligned]])
*Kickback ([[Kickback (FOC)|Aligned]])
*Sharpshot ([[Sharpshot|Aligned]])
|nonumbering=true
}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj-lD5gthQ8 Announcement trailer]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMfLEbUqGyQ G1 Optimus Prime trailer]

[[Category:Video games]]

Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark (console)

2014-03-27T01:50:34Z

Combaticons4ever: Fixed Problem with previous edit

'''''Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark''''' is a video game jointly-created by both [[Hasbro]] and [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], to be released sometime later in [[2014]]. Developed by [[Edge of Reality]] for the PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Wii U and PC and by [[WayForward Technologies]] for the Nintendo 3DS<ref>[http://www.examiner.com/article/transformers-rise-of-the-dark-spark-announced-3ds-version-to-be-strategy-rpg "Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark" announced; 3DS version to be Strategy RPG]</ref>, it appears to incorporate elements of both the ''Transformers'' [[Live-action film series|film franchise]] and the ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]]''/''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'' games.

==Confirmed characters==
{{featuredcharacters|
h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
*Optimus Prime ([[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Movie]] and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Aligned]]) ([[Peter Cullen]])
*Bumblebee ([[Bumblebee (Movie)|Movie]])
*Grimlock ([[Grimlock (AOE)|Movie]])
*Jetfire ([[Jetfire (WFC)|Aligned]])
*Sideswipe ([[Sideswipe (WFC)|Aligned]])
|c2=
*Shockwave ([[Shockwave (WFC)|Aligned]])
*Soundwave ([[Soundwave (WFC)|Aligned]])
*Swindle ([[Swindle (FOC)|Aligned]])
*Kickback ([[Kickback (FOC)|Aligned]])
*Sharpshot ([[Sharpshot|Aligned]])
|nonumbering=true
}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj-lD5gthQ8 Announcement trailer]

[[Category:Video games]]

Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark (console)

2014-03-27T01:47:43Z

Combaticons4ever: added sideswipe

'''''Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark''''' is a video game jointly-created by both [[Hasbro]] and [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], to be released sometime later in [[2014]]. Developed by [[Edge of Reality]] for the PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Wii U and PC and by [[WayForward Technologies]] for the Nintendo 3DS<ref>[http://www.examiner.com/article/transformers-rise-of-the-dark-spark-announced-3ds-version-to-be-strategy-rpg "Transformers: Rise of the Dark Spark" announced; 3DS version to be Strategy RPG]</ref>, it appears to incorporate elements of both the ''Transformers'' [[Live-action film series|film franchise]] and the ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]]''/''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'' games.

==Confirmed characters==
{{featuredcharacters|
h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
*Optimus Prime ([[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Movie]] and [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Aligned]]) ([[Peter Cullen]])
*Bumblebee ([[Bumblebee (Movie)|Movie]])
*Grimlock ([[Grimlock (AOE)|Movie]])
*Jetfire ([[Jetfire (WFC)|Aligned]])
*Sideswipe ([Sideswipe (WFC)|Aligned]])
|c2=
*Shockwave ([[Shockwave (WFC)|Aligned]])
*Soundwave ([[Soundwave (WFC)|Aligned]])
*Swindle ([[Swindle (FOC)|Aligned]])
*Kickback ([[Kickback (FOC)|Aligned]])
*Sharpshot ([[Sharpshot|Aligned]])
|nonumbering=true
}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sj-lD5gthQ8 Announcement trailer]

[[Category:Video games]]

Talk:Transformers Universe (Jagex)

2013-06-12T13:38:33Z

Combaticons4ever:

Folks looking to add information to the article should check out the [http://www.edge-online.com/features/jagexs-transformers-universe-is-a-massively-multiplayer-action-rpg-that-puts-the-toy-box-robots-onto-the-battlefield/ Edge Online article], and the commentary on said article from [http://www.polygon.com/2012/12/10/3751092/transformers-universe-originally-a-traditional-mmorpg-moved-towards Polygon]. Looks like the game has been changed from the initially promoted MMORPG-style game, to a MOBA (multiplayer online battle arena). [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 10:04, 13 December 2012 (EST)

==beta==

Beta is open. Should we put that on this page? [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 09:38, 12 June 2013 (EDT)

User talk:Detour

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Combaticons4ever: /* Fusion Cannon */

Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Daniel Ross at Botcon 2007==
I'll see your "Attendee", and raise you "Special Guest" with evidence straight from the official Botcon Archives themselves, lol. I confirmed this within the past hour with Mr. Ross via Facebook. Here's the Link to the archived "Special Guest" listing for Botcon 2007. [http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07.cfm]

==Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt==
Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

==Megatron joke==
The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUelB-OSneY]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Revert Revert ==

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Treatment==
Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nunchakus==
His name is "Michelangelo". :) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Airazor caption ==

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.
:Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.
:::Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::::We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.
:::::... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Blurr ==

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related ''should not'' be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.
::And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Rabbicrater Edits ==

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film ''History of the World, Part 1''. So not TOTAL nonsense.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the <s>next</s> previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Real Gear hairdryer ==

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof.
By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
-Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::....what? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm listening and I'm sorry [[User:Gyro-Robo|Gyro-Robo]] 22:43, 8 June 2008

== Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ ==

Hello ^^ I removed the [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]] from the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] members because [[:Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] is already under [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]]. Just like [[Killbison]] only under [[:Category:Breastforce]] which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 1989 Character Models ==
Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== Drift ==

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::::No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections ''smaller'', y'know.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism?==
Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

*Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

==Barricade ROTF DS game==
Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:So... the burden is on ''us'' to fix what you write?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one ==

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== SG Ark & SG Nemesis ==

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks for giving me my username==

Seriously best alias ever [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

== TFA: S.P.'s amnesia ==

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face.
EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
::Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"==
That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The ''best'' kind of correct. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

== the Peter Cullen photo. ==

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. [[User:Unicron|Unicron]] 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

== editing ==

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out '''''everything''''' I did? [[User:Masterman555|Masterman555]] 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Heroes Thrust eyes==
Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== IDW ==

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)
What Rosi said. No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==British English spellings==
Please read [[Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English]], it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

==Captions==
Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)
::I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::::''We'' know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::::His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== Sideways Part-swapping pics ==

Detour-
I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? [[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af279/Blitzgear/DSCN0897.jpg] =)[[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Sari Edit ==
why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --[[User:0utrun|0utrun]] 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

== Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke ==

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter. ==

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==Captions==
No one appointed '''you''' the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==My Grammar==
Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7
: Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Why did you remove my edit? ==

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. [[User:CH|CH]] 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::''Friend of Autobots''
::''Sometimes he talks to me too''
::''My spark fills with joy'' --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Right..... ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Beast_Machines_(cartoon)&curid=15&diff=430695&oldid=430694 What was that weird edit summary all about?] --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== Double dash template ==
Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)
::But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> does the same amount of jack squattage. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::::You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)
::::But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== *sigh* "first edit ever" ==

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive? --[[User:Stly92|Stly92]] 01:15, March 18, 2010 (EST)

== Jim-Bob's Diner is indeed a reference to James Roberts ==

[[Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Jim-Bob's Diner]] is, in fact, a reference to ''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' co-writer [[James Roberts]]. Nick Roche said it himself [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=161572#161572]. (At first, '''I''' thought--and was '''very sure'''--it was a reference to '''Jim''' Salicrup and '''Bob''' Budiansky.) --[[User:Jeff39042|Jeff39042]] 19:40, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:Well then that belongs in the Notes... not a confusing random link in the middle of the synopsis. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:06, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

== Last Dutch Issue ==

The IP Anon [[Special:Contributions/195.240.16.74|195.240.16.74]] removed the "last Dutch issue" sentence from "[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]" because he was shifting it to "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]" Now, this may require verification (which is why I'm not undoing your reversal yet), but at least it's not a random act of Anon vandalism.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:24, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I reverted it before he did the rest. I don't know who to ask for verification, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:50, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::Looks like the anon was actually [[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] not logged in. Good enough to allow now, or do we still need a citation? Sunjumper mentions on his anon-IP talk page (linked in just above, there) where he saw mention of the last-issue status.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 13:13, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
:::If he's Dutch, sure. You're in the better position to make that call anyway. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Based on his recent contribution to the BW article, I'd say he his. Well and good, then.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:18, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

== Anon-made G1 Cast List ==

I'll grant I didn't do more than a rough glance over it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it WAS in keeping with our formatting for other TV series' front pages. Granted, the cast's much larger and so may be too overwhelming a list for the page, but in principle, it wasn't a ''wrong'' idea. Might be worth adding a notice as to why the G1 TV series page would differ in that respect from other series'.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:29, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Swapping ==

Look, I am sorry to keep adding tat. I just thought it was important to have in the article, because it was under the same idea. And just so you know, this whole website is full of crappy, big, poorly written sections and just want to help improve some facts not added. So you can take that comment and stick it were it belongs. I just tried to add something.

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== Toy Swapping 2 ==

I am sorry for the previous comment made by myself about the edit. I was in a really bad mood and would not tolerate anything. I will stop trying to edit or fix any articles to fix things that people deleted that I made. I do sincerly apologize. People have been quite rude to me on this website and I was starting to get stressed. Not to mention I have major anger manigment issues. I am quite sorry for my comments.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 12:37, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hey. ==

Yo, be quiet bitch. {{unsigned|TheRex4441}}
:Keep it polite, please. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:39, 24 June 2010 (EDT)

== Prime VAs ==

The editor was right about Optimus & Megatron's VAs, he just didn't have the right source. (It was revealed in a recent BotCon panel.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:12, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

==edit war==
If this edit war does not stop in five minutes and people don't stop getting aggressive at each other, all three of you are getting a time-out. The note is pretty pointless, at best it would be only on Prime Soundwave's page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:28, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

==Translation help==
Hey, Detour. Since you speak French, could you help me by correcting any bad translations I have for the French ''Animated'' episode titles [[User:Interrobang/Crap|here]]? Thanks! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:24, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Done. Egads, epic fail on the dub team on translating Five Servos Of Doom. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:06, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks! That was one of the titles that threw me off. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:21, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== Cloaca joke? ==

Was there something wrong with [[Airazor (BW)|it]]? [[Special:Contributions/72.229.51.77|72.229.51.77]] 15:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Anon reverts==
When a dude changes something, and you change it back, and he changes it back with comment asking why it's changed... it might be better, if you're going to simply revert it again, to at least leave a comment of your own, explaining why? If he's explaining his actions, you owe that same courtesy back, even if he's in the wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:25, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:You're absolutely right, and I can't for the life of me remember WHY I didn't do just that. It's been hectic in my neck of the woods these past few days, I apologize. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:02, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
::Come to think of it, I think the reason might've been that I meant to leave the explanation on his talk page, but ended up being sidetracked by other things. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:03, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nice caption ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:40, 15 August 2010 (EDT)
:Hah, I was just waiting for someone to add a pic of him so I could throw add that caption. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:41, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

== Decepticon Drone ==

I am sorry. I thought it looked simmilar, due to the Red T visor, silver and black head, but not the body.

== [[Katsuyuki Konishi]] and [[Frank Miller]] ==

My joke(s) may be weak, but
#I wasn't violating any [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|caption policies]].
#I uploaded the [[Frank Miller]] image. I deserve a caption or something.
#[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Links that overexplain jokes|Explaining the joke is not funny]].
#(Regarding the link I put at the Konishi caption):
:* A straight quote from Gurren Lagann isn't really very funny by itself.
:* Frank Miller isn't someone you'd think to find on TFWiki. I'd like to show people that he does belong here and how nteresting a coincidence it is, that ''both'' sources of the line contributed to TF. I imagine people reading the link would be like: "Oh yeah, there's also that. Wait, this wiki has an article on F. Miller? What has he got to do with TF? Gonna check that."
But really, I'm more upset about your changing of the caption at Frank Miller for reason number 2. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 10:38, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

== Why are you reverting everything? ==

Why the fuck are you reverting every single edit you see? Is that the only thing you can do? Is is your sole mission to not contribute, but revert everyone else who tries to? Sure, you could just change the singe byte of offending material, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO REVERT THE WHOLE GODDAMN EDIT. You've been doing this for as long as I've been observing. Also, you've been up my ass about everything the whole time I've been here. Haven't you been blocked before for this kind of thing? --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:01, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:Detour spends a lot of time on the wiki so he often sees poor/vandalistic edits before other editor do. Usually his reversions have been supported by the majority of editors, when he goes over the line Walky puts him in his place. My question is, why are you so sensitive? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:37, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
::If you've been up my ass too, you would see that this is the first time I've exploded over seomthing like this. I have been putting up with shit like this since I started editing here. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I don't know, just looking over your previous edits you seemed rather upset about things on the [[Twitcher F451]], [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], [[Starscream (BWII)]] and [[Shelfwarmer]] pages. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:52, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
* WHY ARE YOU REVERTING EVERUTHING???????????????--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 10:15, 7 November 2010 (EST)

If you don´t want people to write in the wiki, please let us know. You reverted some adds I made just because, like the vehicle model of some g1 mini-vehicles, the things on skids robot replica, saying its not the place for a small kinda review (just 3 or 4 lines) If you don't like people doing contributions, purchase this domain and make it yours!!! This is a wiki, based on everyone contributions --[[User:Galvatron77|Galvatron77]]
:"Based on everyone's contributions" doesn't mean "everyone's contributions should stick". Your addition are reviews, these should be objective overviews of the toy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:58, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

== Dalek ==

For your information, there is incorrect information on that page, that must be changed. The Daleks were never first called "Mark 3 travel machines" that is wrong. The were first called Daleks. The machine the ride in was first a Mark 1 Travel Machines, then a Mark 2 Travel Machine, and finally a Mark 3 Travel Machine. It was Davros who called the machine they ride in Mark 3 Travel Machine, but the creatures are called Daleks, and they were first called Kaleds before being mutated into Daleks. I don't know were the hell you got that from but they are also not cyborgs. They are creatures inside tanks basically. I was correcting that. Get your facts right before delete something I did. Trust me, I know more about the Daleks then you. Thus, my user name is LORD DALEK. That is why I am constantly changing that page. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:40, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:Except all that is irrelevant to what was said about Daleks within ''Transformers fiction'', which is what this Wiki is about. And I know plenty about Daleks. Don't assume you're some sort of lone Doctor Who fan on this wiki.--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Fine, I will stop editing the part that is in the comic, BUT THE INFORMATION IN THE NOTES IS WRONG!!! And I also did not say anything about being "a lone Doctor Who fan" I just was saying you undid my edit that was correcting incorrect statements. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:52, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
: That thing Detour linked to when he reverted you sure seems to think you're wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::I found two sources that go against what LordDalek is claiming. One is a general science fiction Wiki and the other is the TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki (which we link Doctor Who-related articles to). --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::ARGG! I have proof that what you said was wrong. Look, you right, they weren't called Daleks, nor they were Mark 3 Travel Machines. They were called merely mutants. Read this:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros|His solution is to remove all emotions pertaining to weakness, a category in which he groups such emotions as compassion, mercy and kindness, and place the mutants in tank-like "Mark III travel machines" partly based on the design of his wheelchair. He later names these creatures Daleks, an anagram of Kaleds.][[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:07, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::: Yyyyeah. You seem to be quoting the fictional history at us, while we're talking about the actual behind-the-scenes history of the characters. The comment you removed will stay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:11, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Actually, from a behind-the-scenes standpoint the name Dalek came first. But Who fiction-wise, it was established in a later serial (Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks's origin story) that the original name of a Dalek was a Mark III Travel Machine. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_of_the_Daleks "At that moment, Davros enters the laboratory, and demonstrates his new "Mark III travel machine", which he later dubs as a "Dalek"."]. If you want the note to focus less on fiction and more on production, I can always tweak it. But it's still a factual note one way or another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:25, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
Better yet, read this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants|For the most part a Dalek is simply a Dalek.Notable exceptions usually refer to rank, such as "Emperor" and "Supreme Dalek", although in Genesis of the Daleks Davros refers to the newly created Dalek casing as a "Mark 3 Travel Machine".] For the last bloody time, Mark 3 Travel Machines refers to the CASING not the actual creature.
[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:14, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Listen ItsWalky, when the Daleks first appeared in 1963 THEY WERE CALLED DALEKS. Davros is part of the fictional history, and the real creator of the Daleks was Terry Nation, and he called them Daleks. There. I now have fictional and behind the scenes evidence. The comment must be removed.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:29, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why would you ''ever'' want to err on the side of ''removing'' information rather than clarifying it? When is less information better?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:15, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

== This place is worse than Nazi Germany ==

SIEG HEIL, DON'T FUCK WITH THE LITTLE TRANSFORMER WIKIPEDIA. WE ONLY LIKE SOME POINTLESS ADDITIONS, NOT A LOT.

Fucking hypocrites. You included, Spanish twit.--[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Please mind your language. And this kind of tantrum-throwing won't exactly have people joining your side in the argument. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:18, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Fanmodes ==

I got the impression, per the "Fan-configurations of toys" discussion in the community portal, that we ''don't'' avoid fan modes, that brief mention of such is okay. [[User:JW|JW]] 11:58, 19 November 2010 (EST)

== Koiter brothers ==

Thanks for catching that spelling error I missed on their names! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Grimstone ==

Grimstone's drones' Mini-Con compatibilities are '''not''' mentionned on their own page.

== Ahem ==

Why did you revert my talk page edit regarding the doctor who connection on Talk:Death's Head?
NVM I see, I screwed it up.

== Emperor of Terror Scorponok ==

What's wrong with his edits? He seems to be adding several paragraphs of information, which you delete entirely. I see one or two typos here or there, but wouldn't it be easier to fix those than just remove his large amounts of work whole-hog? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:Believe me, I've been mulling over that myself, but ultimately, it's more than just typos. A lot of his sentences just don't read right and would ultimately require full rewrites. Figured someone else starting again from scratch would be better than a Cleanup tag... But if I'm wrong in this, sorry. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:23, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:: The English doesn't really read that badly. It's simple, but better than the nothing we have now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:29, 16 December 2010 (EST)

==New mexico vs. New Mexico==
Thanks, I totally realised the mistake soon after I made the page.
[[User:MadmanFoidart|MadmanFoidart]] 14:46, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Reverting edits ==

May I ask why you insist on reverting my edits? Especially the one just now about TransTech Megatron's concept design matching almost-perfectly to ROTF Megatron's design, which I see far more-notable than the "Oh look, it's an H-Tank, it atuomatically links to Armada Megatron" trivia listed before it, which you have left alone.

For this particular case, it is not merely my opinion that the two resemble each other more, as a quick glance at the image displayed in the trivia section, let alone what that trivia links to off-wiki, shows a closer resemblance to ROTF than Armada, by far.
[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 02:41, 27 January 2011 (EST)
:You're right, looks like I jumped the gun at that one. My apologies. Still, it could stand a rewriting to be a little less... dogpiley. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:35, 27 January 2011 (EST)

== Mindset ==

You said: ''It says the toy is a retool of Hailstorm, and Hailstorm was designed as the homage.''
If the Hailstorm/Mindset mold was designed as an homage to the original Mindset, then I don't see how the new Mindset could ''not'' be an homage to the original. Particularly since, given the way Hasbro is planning retools these days, the Hailstorm mold was ''always'' intended to be retooled into a Mindset. What is the distinction you're making? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:No ressemblance to the original character, for starters. If he was "clearly" intended as an homage, the head would surely have carried over the original character's visor at the very least, yes? And the colors, too. G2 Mindset was white, green and grey, this Autobot Mindset is blue and black. And lastly, the faction allegiance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 7 February 2011 (EST)
This is how I suspect it went down:
#Hailstorm toy was designed.
#[[Kyde]] was all, hey, dudes, that's totally Mindset.
#Hasbro decided to name its redeco "Mindset."
Somewhere in between 2 and 3, Toy Fair probably happened, when Aaron was all about how this toy was totally Mindset.
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:20, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:Hmm, okay. Point granted. [[User:JW|JW]] 07:22, 8 February 2011 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

I think the one that said Motormaster's size change is right, because Motormaster is the same size as Optimus, while Optimus has the same size as Motormaster in car mode, both of them with their trailers, i think there's size change in there.

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 19:24, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:Yeah, and there's a [[Powertrain|freighter truck]] that transforms into a robot that goes up to Prime's shin. Scale doesn't mean much in Transformers, you have Porsche Jazz towering over Porsche Cliffjumper and Jeep Hound towering over Jeep Brawn and F-15s turning into robots the same size as Lamborghinis. It's a dumb thing to note. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:39, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

== Windcharger ==

"This was removed before because it's false. Don't add it back" How is it false?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 23:09, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

==Bumblebee==
BOTH of you knock it the fuck off or you're both getting put in a corner for a while. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== DOTM Bumblebee ==

Just to clear things up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE&feature=feedu the maker of the video says:
because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 15:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

==If you don't like Robert Stack==

You should say so when you're taking funny things he said from the Ultra Magnus page. It's not as if the image even had a caption before, could you not have left it? I ask because since you didn't give a reason, it ''looks'' like you revert all IP edits you see on principle, without checking what was actually changed. Busy schedule? [[Special:Contributions/92.13.226.232|92.13.226.232]] 19:48, 5 April 2011 (EDT)
:Detour doesn't always check properly what an anon added, but he does check. On captions, the rules are very clear though: If you have not contributed to the wiki in a meaningful way, you are NOT allowed to add or change captions UNLESS you have asked permission first on the article's talk page. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:00, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Inferno (BW) ==

May I just ask why did you undo the caption edit?
: Because you replaced an existing caption with a YouTube link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Are YouTubes links forbidden? I do believe I saw them in captions on this Wiki before. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]]
::: Well, first there's the problem of ''replacing an existing caption.'' It's frowned upon. Second, a little '''[1]''' under an image isn't a caption. It's just a link. It's not pretty or witty, it's just an unmarked link. Captions should be captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:::: Well, yes, I suspected (now I know for sure) that much (the "frown upon" part), and that's (partially, anyway) the reason I've never edited a caption before. But no, wait, I was pretty sure that when I checked the article after the edit there was blue text "nope.avi" in the caption that was a link to a video, not just "[1]". Or am I missing something? --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 14:59, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Also, to further clarify things, I'll give this link: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nopeavi You can even find the screenshot the caption of which I changed in the related pictures there. I hope that article will be clear enough explanation of my motive to change the aforementioned caption. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 02:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

== Regarding the edits Eagc7 made ==

Apparently you haven't read the [[Megatron (Movie)]] article in awhile, because Eagc7 was just trying to help out. [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Megatron_%28Movie%29&diff=484337&oldid=481886 Xaaron made this edit] almost a year ago, most likely because nobody bothered to fill out that section since 2007. Nobody objected. Eagc7 evidently noticed this and was trying to make the other articles consistent. I think you should have questioned his motives before insta-reverting them. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:37, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mech-Tech page ==

The only reason it was "Just a list copied from the DOTM page" is because he HADN'T FINISHED THE PAGE YET --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:08, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
:It shouldn't be a list, it should be a description of the gimmick, like our [[Automorph Technology]] and [[Mech Alive]] pages, that's why it's tagged, it's even explained in the tag. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Fusion Cannon ==

You have undone my edit of Movie Megatron's fusion cannon twice now and I am wondering why? In the 2007 movie at 1:57:13 you can clearly see Megatron shoot Jazz with his fusion cannon from his RIGHT arm. I just watched it, so I know I am correct. If you have a good reason for undoing my edits, let me know, but until then I am just going to keep changing it back. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 02:43, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
:You didn't watch well enough. That's '''Jazz''' shooting Megatron, not the other way around. By contrast, Megatron's fusion cannon is clearly in his left arm, as you see Prime shoot him off balance before he fires, but he turns around, cannon clearly on his left arm, re-aims and shoots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:05, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Sorry but you didn't watch well enough. '''Jazz''' does fire first, then '''Megatron''' fires and Jazz goes flying. I haven't watched the battle with Optimus recently, so it may be that Megatron also has a fusion cannon in his left arm as well and can combine both to make them more powerful. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 10:00, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Maybe it's a different weapons system, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm assuming you have finally accepted that Megatron does shoot Jazz with his right arm and you watched the entire scene. The blast was blue like the blast from the combined fusion cannon and his fusion cannon from ROTF ,and it was very powerful, as it sent Jazz flying much in the same way as it did to Optimus in ROTF. Also, he lost his left arm at the end of the first movie, and if it were solely stored in his left arm, it would not have been present in ROTF. It's probably pretty safe to assume that "the Little One," who provided Megatron with parts did not possess a fusion cannon and the "Doctor" did not build a completely new one. IF you can come up with a better arguement than that or provide some official source material, I'll leave it alone, but if you keep using an ambiguous arguement I'll just keep editing the article.
:Do you have any evidence that it '''is''' his fusion cannon? A single blast from said cannon sent Optimus Prime, OPTIMUS PRIME, flying over a full city block into a building, while Jazz barely flew a few feet. But hey, for added evidence, [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h56m39s185.png this] does not look like either [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h57m49s50.png this] or [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h58m11s5.png this]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
No I don't have any evidence that it is a fusion cannon, but I think there is a better argument for it being a fusion cannon than not, as I stated above. And yes Jazz did only fly a few feet, but maybe that's because the fusion cannon was not at full power because it was not combined with Megatron's left arm. As for the pictures, they don't look anything like the crab claw fusion cannon, yet that is still a fusion cannon. I'm not trying to jerk you around; this is just how I see it and a lot of this is just opinion because Hasbro or whoever hasn't officially detailed anything. Maybe we could ask someone else who edits this Wiki for their opinion on it and just go with that?
:That doesn't work, because as my screenshots show, the fusion cannon is ''entirely part of Megatron's left arm''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
How does that explain how his fusion cannon moved from his left arm to his right arm? I don't see the problem with what I wrote, because it leaves the statement you wrote about the fusion cannon being stored in the left arm and it touches on the blast that was fired at Jazz with his right arm. It says nowhere that it '''is''' definitely a fusion cannon. All I wanted to write was that there is a possiblility that his right arm is a fusion cannon, or at least part of a whole. The scene with Jazz is up for interpretation, but I think it should be added so others who read this article can decide for themselves. As far as getting someone else's opinion, you will have to get someone to help with that. I don't know how to ask any of the main editors and I assume you probably do. Just have them comment in this section with an opinion on it.--[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 1:39, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
I'm sorry, but both of you are kind of wrong and kind of right. There's a HALF of the fusion cannon on each arm. He brings his arms together and they FUSE into the cannon. He can use each half separately, but when they are combined they do much more damage. [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 22:13, 31 May 2013 (EDT)

==why didnt you jsut fixed it?==
instead of removing all i wrote on the movie Starscream page, why didnt you just Fixed my typos and mistakes? {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Because I couldn't even understand what it was you were trying to say. Your poor English goes far beyond simple spelling errors. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:46, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, in that case, lets keep a Character Stub template (which i already did) {{unsigned|Eagc7}}

== Dude, STOP. NOW. ==

Abra cannot learn Hypnosis. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:19, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
: Seriously, you are now the wiki's worst vandal. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:31, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

== The Autobot Hero ==

I had thought of reverting his edit to Fire on the Mountain the same as you did, but decided against it as the internal link was a redlink. Are we planning on having an [[Andes Mountains]] page? If not, he actually did the right thing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:Well, [[Peru]] wasn't a redlink. Standard seems to be that locations where stuff happens in fiction deserve wiki articles. The Andes mountains do come up in both Fire in the Mountain and the Japanese PS2 Transformers game, so the location deserves a proper TFWiki article, IMO. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::And the Kid Stuff audiobooks have the Andes partially destroyed in "Storms of Destruction". [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:48, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Thanks for that! Added the link to it too. I'd love to make a page for it (being the huge Mysterious Cities of Gold nerd that I am) but since I don't have access to any of the material they show up in, there isn't much I can do. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:56, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

==Editing==
I read the "Help:Editing" page.-[[User:Dirgeor|Dirgeor]] 20:02, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Crowbar ==
I'm quite not sure why you removed my photo of Crowbar. Can you please tell me?
:Because it's a horrible shot that barely shows Crowbar at all, if that's even him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:05, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
It is him, you can clearly see Crankcase in another shot. I can understand that the shot wasn't great, but it's better than an inaccurate representation of him in Cyberverse form.

== Crisscross "Error" ==

Rather than risk a revert war, I'll simply discuss the matter here first.

If the package was delivered to the garage while Arcee was away for some unknown length of time, why should she question its origin? I still say someone from MECH could have broken into the garage, delivered the package, and locked up on their way out, thus accounting for the package's presence. (Yes, it's something of an error not to explain it in-story, but I think that's at least a feasible explanation.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: That's how I read the sequence of events. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: You make some good points. But after even two watchings the whole thing still felt weird. When you stop and think about it, only Jack or June could've taken care of the package... If Arcee assumes June has... she'd know Arcee wasn't in the garage. So... why's she so casual about the package? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:06, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
:: My postman leaves packages in my garage all the time if I'm not there to take delivery, honestly. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Editing ==
Can we please discuss our debates before filing pages for deletion? I have a strong argument. Please just listen to me.
-[[User:PurpleCyclops|Caleb]]
:No. You don't. Preliminary names are just that, '''preliminary'''. We're not calling Mirage "Rush", and the same applies to Crowbar and Hatchet. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
Rush isn't the final name for Mirage. Hatchet is a typhoon fighter jet. Crowbar is a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. The trio in the film are suburbans. This is not the case of renaming them. This is the case of '''different character'''.
:No, this is the case of '''different altmodes'''. Do we consider Sideways anyone but Sideways? Because his toy sure as hell wasn't a screen-accurate Audi, and didn't even use the proper color scheme. You're being utterly ridiculous. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was saying that the characters were most likely different since they hadn't the right altmode or altmode size, since Hatchet would be much too big to be a suburban, if he was a jet, and Crowbar would be too small if he was a police car. Sorry bout everything though, I agree, my argument '''is''' ridiculous.

== Joke ==
By reference, I meant a reference to something. A joke. Jokes aren't meant to be useful. And this wiki is full of them. One on almost every image. Which isn't very useful, when they could have a informative caption. But that's one of my favorite things about this wiki. It's humor. Once again, I find you reverting anything I post. Can't I just add a simple joke that can appeal to some people, without attracting the attention of you?
:It's humor, yes, but it's still a wiki. Signal to noise ratio is the key here, and smashing a bad joke about train delays in the first sentence of Astrotrain's bio isn't the way to go about it. Signal to noise, the wiki must be funny but also informative. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:21, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

You do have a point. I agree it is still a wiki, and it's not that informative. However you kind of missed the joke. A popular quote in a T.V. show about trains from my childhood was when the person would scold the train, he would say "you've caused confusion and delay". Nothing to do with train delays.

== Spam ==

Does [[User talk:Dynamic|THIS]] count as Spam?--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
:Not really. Spam is more people and/or bots trying to scam people with advertisements. Dynamic's talk page doesn't fall into that. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, either he's trying to share an easter egg with the wiki or he's trying to spark a discussion, either way it's not really spam. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:16, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
== Volume Number ==
Woops, sorry about that. After that anon troll was just going around changing tiny things on the year pages, I ended up with a bit of an itchy trigger finger. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:13, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

== Dave Fennoy Picture ==

Hi There. Could you find a picture of [[Dave Fennoy]] for his page?

== Doctor Arkeville in sound and furry ==

When the Hot Dog Bot rebels the man he is serving has the distinct rounded triangle jaw and mad scientist like hair style of G1 villain Doctor Arkeville. can you tell me anouther human character in either show has one of these characteristics yet he has both of them, it is pretty clear he is a homage to the classic decepticon allied human please stop reverting this
:Yeah, and I suppose Doc Brown is a Doctor Arkeville homage too? It's very common for old men to their hair up top, have their hair lose color and get a longer jaw. Just because one incidental character sported those features doesn't automatically mean HOMAGE. Please stop grasping at straws. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:37, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

:Doc Brown did not have a triangular rounded jaw and as for the hair several scientist in fiction have it as homage to Albert Einstein. However I am not aware of any other transformers characters that this hair style. Plus I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a longer jaw when they got older. It is not grasping at straws as much as seeing a comparison somebody made between the two and adding it here.
::No metal hat & hand = No Arkeville. --Thy2k, not logged in

== Found cosmos art from official artist! ==

I found some art of cosmy! should we replace the main page now? its from the official artist's deviantart page, sides we got most of the moving violations character photos from devianart too. for cosmos art see link http://tehkoreandude.deviantart.com/gallery/24312266#/d3lnp2f --User:Jazzerprime
:That's not official Transformers art. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:31, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Tell me ==

Do you actually look at people's edits before you revert them? --[[User:TheOnlyChoice|TheOnlyChoice]] 04:13, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. And you only had two edits the last one a month ago, before suddenly declaring yourself the lord of what's sucky or not. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:22, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

== It's true. ==

If they hadn't fallen in because of the surge, five seconds later, it would have turned them into transmetals and the lava wouldn't have had any more effect than a hot bath. If that doesn't describe irony, nothing does. [[Special:Contributions/70.77.36.81|70.77.36.81]] 20:40, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:I don't recall lava immunity being a Transmetal power. Just because Tarantulas survived it doesn't mean everyone else can, nor do it indicate that survival was directly due to Transmetalness. Also, noting it purely out of "irony" is like saying it's ironic Ironhide's shuttle was on an Energon run because if they weren't low on Energon they would've survived the Decepticon attack. It's silly and pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:44, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== Can you Remove ==
Can you remove "Luis Daniel Ramírez" page, since it seems this guy Arturo Castañeda is going to be Jack Darby voice in the spanish dub of Prime {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Sorry, I'm not a mod or an admin here so I don't have the power to do this. I'll tag it for deletion, though, if that help. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

== image tags ==

There are always stupid tags to images on a number of pages could you please stop putting these corny and rediculous tags. {{unsigned|108.66.204.65}}
:If by "tags" you mean the captions, then I recommend you familiarize yourself with [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|the wiki's policies regarding captions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:56, 10 November 2011 (EST)

== Arcee ==
Thank you very much for restoring that caption. Much appreciated. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 03:34, 26 November 2011 (EST)

== "Double Bruticus" ==

And the reason to remove the comment was...?
: The wiki in general does not cover unofficial fancreations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)

I guessing you think you have everything in Transformers prime, right?

== Steeljaw/Red Alert link ==

Huh. Didn't even see that link between the two. Thanks. Should the minor edit to [[Final Transformations]] be reverted to the Red Alert article as a whole, or keep the link to Red Alert's G2 (and only Marvel) appearance?
[[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 22:57, 29 February 2012 (EST)
:No, linking it to the G2 section was a good idea, since it refers to that specific event. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:09, 29 February 2012 (EST)
::Heh. Apologies about that. My connection is stuttering at the moment. [[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 00:36, 1 March 2012 (EST)

==Why do you delete my...?==
excuse me why do you delete my dreadwing image?
:Because it already existed on the wiki in its proper place. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

why have you deleted my leadfoot foto?[[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Because it has no reason to be in the Notes section. The Notes section is not a place to arbitrarily put whatever image tickles your fancy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

the other user has told me to put the image there [[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Andrusi said '''maybe''' if you followed proper [[Transformers Wiki:Images|image guidelines]] that it ''might'' be able to go in the Notes section, not that you could just put it in the Notes section. And even then, as he himself admits on the Leadfoot page, he was wrong on that count. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:51, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

so i can't add this image nowhere[[user:Shockwave1704]]

are you french? --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:18, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
: No, he's Canadian.....--[[Special:Contributions/81.164.215.61|81.164.215.61]] 12:19, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

ah ok, because there are some sentences in the france article that could be offensive --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:31, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

In World War II, France surrendered in the face of foreign invasion, leaving the population to suffer under a genocidal dictatorship for four years. This is seen as a source of hilarious jokes by some other nations.
[[User:Shockwave1704]]
:I don't really see how that's offensive. If anything, it reflects poorly on the aforementionned "other nations". =p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:50, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::yes, but in this article French army = cowards--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:01, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::No, the article says that people from other nations like to make jokes about the French being cowards. That is not the same thing as saying that the French are cowards. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:06, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::::i disagree with you, but if you think so...--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:26, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::::I really think this is a symptom of your level of English comprehension. To a native English speaker, the paragraph you quoted says exactly what I said it does. It is hard enough working in a language that you do not speak fluently, dealing with all of the humor on this site will make it even harder on you as many of the jokes simply won't translate. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:21, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

in my opinion humor is a symbol for every country. Italian people have got their humor, French people have got their humor, English people have got their humor. So it's possible that Italian people think your humorism is a little offensive. --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 08:57, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:No, it's your tenuous grasp on English that's making you miss the joke. Now drop it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:12, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

what? no, in my opinion you don't appreciate our humor because we are very different. I don't want to criticize you, but everyone can think how he wants --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:25, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:I haven't seen any instances of your humor anywhere. It's just clear you don't even ''get'' the damn joke. So drop the subject. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:33, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Bah --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:37, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

== Jokerberg ==

I love your Jokerberg statement when you edited [[Daran Norris]].--[[User:Ultra-Humanite|Humanite]] 22:18, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
:Thank you! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:15, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the help page. XD [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 00:47, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

== "Useless padding" ==

I sort of chuckled when I saw this line from you, good on you for having a sense of humour about it. :)
I couldn't help but notice, friend, that about a third of the information on this entire Wiki is "useless padding", meaningless trivia put there for no reason other than to impart interesting information to the reader. And of the remaining information, about a third of ''that'' is flat-out jokes inserted simply to make people laugh. Looking over the rest of that one page, off the top of my head, Toronto being the biggest city in Canada has absolutely nothing to do with Transformers, and the relationship between 'there are no Target stores in Canada' and Transformers is so tangential that it's just about on the same level. So I ask you, why did you ''really'' remove that information from the page? Really, if I don't know, I won't be able to avoid the mistake in the future. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 22:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

== Periods and Spaces ==

Oh, it's no trouble, friend. I just copy the text of the page from the edit window into notepad and then find-and-replace ". " with ". " to fix it up. Then I just copy it back over and go on with my regular correction of spelling errors and grammar checking. It's easy, and it's my pleasure to improve the quality of the Wiki. :-)
Also, some interesting reading for you to back up my position: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 23:43, 9 May 2012 (EDT)
:You're missing the point. It DOESN'T improve the quality of the wiki because it ISN'T WRONG. The link you provided is to an OPINION PIECE. It is the policy of this wiki that we don't care whether you use one space or two after a period and that there is no need to change one for the other. It's kind of like how we do not have a preference between US and UK spellings. Also, "friend", you are coming off rather smarmy and condescending here. That is not likely to get many people to back your position.--

== Subscription service figures ==

I had put those on the 2012 listing because that is what the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] page said. Should we change that page? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:02, 10 May 2012 (EDT)

== Faceless tags ==
I'm not the one removing them. [[Special:Contributions/TFMAN|TFMAN]] is. I just remove what he puts there in place of them. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:40, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
:Use the Undo button, that way you undo all the things he's changed, rather than just removing what he's added without putting back what he's removed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:41, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
::Alright, will do. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:43, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

== Vocab ==

I have a pretty good vocabulary. Plus the captions were for a lot stuff I remember growing up as a kid. Good Times Huh? The Picture for [[Tim Curry]]'s page was just Wow. I have never seen that movie before.[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 02:16, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

== Allspark Addendum ==

Thanks for help on the SG Animated pages. I'm used to making minor edits, and I don't have much experience on templates besides the bunny rabbit page. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.31.203|184.56.31.203]] 19:01, 31 May 2012 (EDT))

==IDW==
If i'm doing such a bad job, why don't you do those articles then? I've been at it forever, trying to edit that thing. Ed
: It would help if your additions were about the characters the article is about. Most of your "How Ratchet Got His Hands Back" additions to First Aid's page were about Ratchet! And it didn't mention at all that First Aid was promoted to Chief Medical Officer, which is the most important thing that happened to First Aid in that issue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:06, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

== Animated toy/merchandise section ==

I added "Fast food kids meal toys" subsections to [[Megatron (Animated)]] and [[Starscream (Animated)]] pages. With that, the pages got the same "Toys" layout of [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Optimus Prime (Animated)]] and [[Bumblebee (Animated)]], with an Subsection for each "toyline". If the subsection is wrong, it need to be removed from OP and BB pages. If the subsection is OK, why you removed they from Megatron and Starscream page?

And why you put the toys as available "only in Mexico and Venezuela"? I am in Brazil and have to eat some McDonalds Happy Meal to have my toys. Probably the toy was available in all Latin America (but this is a guess, for sure it was available in Brazil).
:The subsections are present on Bumblebee and Prime's pages because they have a '''huge''' amount of toys and merchandise to their name, which requires extra subsections. By contrast, Megatron and Starscream's numbers are more manageable, hence why the fast food premiums aren't categorized the same way. You'll notice Megs and Screams don't have subsections for Activators, Deluxe, Voyager, etc. either.
:As for why I only said Mexico and Venezuela, that's because that's all that's listed on the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:39, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
::Makes sense, but Starscream have the "Universe (2008)" subsection. Don't know why the "Fast food" subsection hurts, but will not re-add it, I was only trying to make the toy sections of each character more or less with the same layout/design. Before I waste my time, I have a lot of Merchandise itens to add for Megatron and Starscream (more for Megatron than for Starscream), it's OK to create an Merchandise section? I'll edit the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]] to be more accurate and include Brazil there. --[[User:Sharpfinger|Sharpfinger]] 20:48, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

==Shattered Expectations reference in Triage==
It's a rather obvious nod to it. If that's not considered a reference than you might as well not consider the "Beast Machines" line in TMI as a reference. {{unsigned|108.11.36.231}}
:Shattering expectations is a commonly used term, hence why it was fan-applied to Shattered Expectations proper. It's not a reference. Stop saying it is. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:34, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::If by "fan-applied" you man "the writers of the comic actually named it that", sure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:49, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::But it's almost completely out of place. That's like removing the thing about Hardshell saying "yes" in Toxicity by that logic.
:::It's not out of place, he just shattered Soundwave's visor, and that's the joke. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:09, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

== how to act towards others ==

I think for someone who acts like they own the wiki you should think about how you talk to poeple. As a member of the wiki you should show a little respect towards your fellow members start deleing peoples posts with out saying why and then starting personal attacks is a big no you make yourself look bad and the wiki.[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 13:45, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
:I started no personal attacks. You, on the other hand, called me an a-hole. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:55, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
I think he's just suggesting stuff, right? (lobythelegend 13:49, 22 June 2012 (EDT))

:I know you're angry, but why is that it seems that you're always in a bad mood to everyone who messes up in the Wiki? lobythelegend 13:46, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

== Accents ==

Ah, I had forgotten that. May I suggest this, then:
:The ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' film in 2007 takes the alternate tac that Optimus Prime and his troops learned Earth languages — including English ''and'' Mandarin Chinese, according to the novelization — by studying the [[Internet]]; presumably, each Autobot chose the accent that best fit their natural voice. In contrast, the Decepticons generally use the Cybertronian language. This distinction is lost in the sequels, in which all Autobots and Decepticons speak English even when, canonically, they have had no prior contact with the language.
'cause we really need to get rid of the paragraph that is there now.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 15:01, 29 August 2012 (EDT)

What do you have against what I posted about Octane's cameo in 'The Ultimate Weapon'?

== PCCs ==

According to Hydra Choppmaster and Rollermaster ARE Blazemaster and Straxus. Only the minions/Targetmaster little guys are new characters. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 13:19, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

== Why? ==

What is your problem? I added a joke to a picture of Slipstream that didn't have a joke. Or do you just feel the need to undo everything I do? {{unsigned|AutobotKickshift}}
:Until you contribute something, you should just leave captions alone. And sign your posts. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 18:21, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

== New ==

Hello. I'm New Here. Thanks for helping on [[Motoko Kumai]]. I Had to find some sources to fix the page. Not my Best. But I'll be careful. Slow Connection though.

Thanks Agian![[User:Energizer|Energizer]] 03:27, 14 December 2012 (EST)

== Computer Problems ==

The reason why my images are blurry is because my computer seems to have a problem with it. Apparently, my computer doesn't like my images being clear, so they just become blurry. I know, I noticed it too. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 00:41, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Still? ==

Again! How much do ''I'' have to contribute to make you understand that I have contributed enough to go to other pages
add captions or jokes on ''some'' images. Every time I go to the Articles that Need Images page I add an image and that means that I have contributed something. At least I have done something. I'm tired of being followed. I'm starting to belive you have ''not'' seen my captions.
Another thing that I would like to ask is: Why did you say that I could use some cleanup with the Bot Shots Battle Game! page. What's wrong with it? Does it need any more information? The last thing I would want is the page or my captions (or both) being deleted by anyone. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 11:49, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
:Thing is, all your images end up being deleted for being [[Template:Badimage|of poor quality]]. Whatever paint program you're using, try changing to something like [http://www.gimp.org GIMP] - using MS Paint or whatever you're doing is doomed to fail. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 12:28, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Once Again! ==

My image of Sky Garry has been deleted! This is the sixth time my image has been delted! It didn't even have bad quality! I'm starting to think that you want me to contribute on this wiki, because in seconds [[Sideways (RID)|someone]] has to delete something that I do. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 17:31, 15 April 2013 (EDT)

== Blatant and false information ==

To detour....

Who Are you and what blatant and false information as I been posting on bloody web?

Signed Assassinator
:You added information to Arcee (Movie) and Sideswipe (Movie) indicating that they were close allies and altered a statement about Arcee blaming herself for Bumblebee's injuries to say she blamed herself for Sideswipe's injuries. Which fiction is that from? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:41, 18 April 2013 (EDT)

== The Abominus Stragglers ==

I went ahead and looked for [[Blight (Prime)]], [[Windrazor (Prime)]], and [[Rippersnapper (Prime)]] and found them. One question though... do we wait until they're available in the USA/UK, or is it okay that they're only available in Taiwan? [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 22:07, 31 May 2013 (EDT)

User talk:Detour

2013-06-01T02:08:20Z

Combaticons4ever: /* The Abominus Stragglers */

Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Daniel Ross at Botcon 2007==
I'll see your "Attendee", and raise you "Special Guest" with evidence straight from the official Botcon Archives themselves, lol. I confirmed this within the past hour with Mr. Ross via Facebook. Here's the Link to the archived "Special Guest" listing for Botcon 2007. [http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07.cfm]

==Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt==
Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

==Megatron joke==
The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUelB-OSneY]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Revert Revert ==

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Treatment==
Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nunchakus==
His name is "Michelangelo". :) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Airazor caption ==

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.
:Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.
:::Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::::We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.
:::::... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Blurr ==

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related ''should not'' be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.
::And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Rabbicrater Edits ==

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film ''History of the World, Part 1''. So not TOTAL nonsense.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the <s>next</s> previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Real Gear hairdryer ==

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof.
By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
-Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::....what? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm listening and I'm sorry [[User:Gyro-Robo|Gyro-Robo]] 22:43, 8 June 2008

== Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ ==

Hello ^^ I removed the [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]] from the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] members because [[:Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] is already under [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]]. Just like [[Killbison]] only under [[:Category:Breastforce]] which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 1989 Character Models ==
Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== Drift ==

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::::No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections ''smaller'', y'know.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism?==
Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

*Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

==Barricade ROTF DS game==
Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:So... the burden is on ''us'' to fix what you write?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one ==

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== SG Ark & SG Nemesis ==

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks for giving me my username==

Seriously best alias ever [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

== TFA: S.P.'s amnesia ==

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face.
EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
::Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"==
That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The ''best'' kind of correct. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

== the Peter Cullen photo. ==

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. [[User:Unicron|Unicron]] 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

== editing ==

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out '''''everything''''' I did? [[User:Masterman555|Masterman555]] 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Heroes Thrust eyes==
Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== IDW ==

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)
What Rosi said. No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==British English spellings==
Please read [[Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English]], it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

==Captions==
Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)
::I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::::''We'' know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::::His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== Sideways Part-swapping pics ==

Detour-
I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? [[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af279/Blitzgear/DSCN0897.jpg] =)[[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Sari Edit ==
why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --[[User:0utrun|0utrun]] 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

== Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke ==

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter. ==

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==Captions==
No one appointed '''you''' the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==My Grammar==
Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7
: Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Why did you remove my edit? ==

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. [[User:CH|CH]] 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::''Friend of Autobots''
::''Sometimes he talks to me too''
::''My spark fills with joy'' --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Right..... ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Beast_Machines_(cartoon)&curid=15&diff=430695&oldid=430694 What was that weird edit summary all about?] --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== Double dash template ==
Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)
::But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> does the same amount of jack squattage. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::::You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)
::::But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== *sigh* "first edit ever" ==

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive? --[[User:Stly92|Stly92]] 01:15, March 18, 2010 (EST)

== Jim-Bob's Diner is indeed a reference to James Roberts ==

[[Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Jim-Bob's Diner]] is, in fact, a reference to ''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' co-writer [[James Roberts]]. Nick Roche said it himself [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=161572#161572]. (At first, '''I''' thought--and was '''very sure'''--it was a reference to '''Jim''' Salicrup and '''Bob''' Budiansky.) --[[User:Jeff39042|Jeff39042]] 19:40, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:Well then that belongs in the Notes... not a confusing random link in the middle of the synopsis. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:06, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

== Last Dutch Issue ==

The IP Anon [[Special:Contributions/195.240.16.74|195.240.16.74]] removed the "last Dutch issue" sentence from "[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]" because he was shifting it to "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]" Now, this may require verification (which is why I'm not undoing your reversal yet), but at least it's not a random act of Anon vandalism.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:24, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I reverted it before he did the rest. I don't know who to ask for verification, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:50, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::Looks like the anon was actually [[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] not logged in. Good enough to allow now, or do we still need a citation? Sunjumper mentions on his anon-IP talk page (linked in just above, there) where he saw mention of the last-issue status.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 13:13, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
:::If he's Dutch, sure. You're in the better position to make that call anyway. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Based on his recent contribution to the BW article, I'd say he his. Well and good, then.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:18, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

== Anon-made G1 Cast List ==

I'll grant I didn't do more than a rough glance over it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it WAS in keeping with our formatting for other TV series' front pages. Granted, the cast's much larger and so may be too overwhelming a list for the page, but in principle, it wasn't a ''wrong'' idea. Might be worth adding a notice as to why the G1 TV series page would differ in that respect from other series'.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:29, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Swapping ==

Look, I am sorry to keep adding tat. I just thought it was important to have in the article, because it was under the same idea. And just so you know, this whole website is full of crappy, big, poorly written sections and just want to help improve some facts not added. So you can take that comment and stick it were it belongs. I just tried to add something.

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== Toy Swapping 2 ==

I am sorry for the previous comment made by myself about the edit. I was in a really bad mood and would not tolerate anything. I will stop trying to edit or fix any articles to fix things that people deleted that I made. I do sincerly apologize. People have been quite rude to me on this website and I was starting to get stressed. Not to mention I have major anger manigment issues. I am quite sorry for my comments.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 12:37, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hey. ==

Yo, be quiet bitch. {{unsigned|TheRex4441}}
:Keep it polite, please. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:39, 24 June 2010 (EDT)

== Prime VAs ==

The editor was right about Optimus & Megatron's VAs, he just didn't have the right source. (It was revealed in a recent BotCon panel.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:12, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

==edit war==
If this edit war does not stop in five minutes and people don't stop getting aggressive at each other, all three of you are getting a time-out. The note is pretty pointless, at best it would be only on Prime Soundwave's page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:28, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

==Translation help==
Hey, Detour. Since you speak French, could you help me by correcting any bad translations I have for the French ''Animated'' episode titles [[User:Interrobang/Crap|here]]? Thanks! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:24, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Done. Egads, epic fail on the dub team on translating Five Servos Of Doom. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:06, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks! That was one of the titles that threw me off. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:21, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== Cloaca joke? ==

Was there something wrong with [[Airazor (BW)|it]]? [[Special:Contributions/72.229.51.77|72.229.51.77]] 15:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Anon reverts==
When a dude changes something, and you change it back, and he changes it back with comment asking why it's changed... it might be better, if you're going to simply revert it again, to at least leave a comment of your own, explaining why? If he's explaining his actions, you owe that same courtesy back, even if he's in the wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:25, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:You're absolutely right, and I can't for the life of me remember WHY I didn't do just that. It's been hectic in my neck of the woods these past few days, I apologize. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:02, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
::Come to think of it, I think the reason might've been that I meant to leave the explanation on his talk page, but ended up being sidetracked by other things. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:03, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nice caption ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:40, 15 August 2010 (EDT)
:Hah, I was just waiting for someone to add a pic of him so I could throw add that caption. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:41, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

== Decepticon Drone ==

I am sorry. I thought it looked simmilar, due to the Red T visor, silver and black head, but not the body.

== [[Katsuyuki Konishi]] and [[Frank Miller]] ==

My joke(s) may be weak, but
#I wasn't violating any [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|caption policies]].
#I uploaded the [[Frank Miller]] image. I deserve a caption or something.
#[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Links that overexplain jokes|Explaining the joke is not funny]].
#(Regarding the link I put at the Konishi caption):
:* A straight quote from Gurren Lagann isn't really very funny by itself.
:* Frank Miller isn't someone you'd think to find on TFWiki. I'd like to show people that he does belong here and how nteresting a coincidence it is, that ''both'' sources of the line contributed to TF. I imagine people reading the link would be like: "Oh yeah, there's also that. Wait, this wiki has an article on F. Miller? What has he got to do with TF? Gonna check that."
But really, I'm more upset about your changing of the caption at Frank Miller for reason number 2. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 10:38, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

== Why are you reverting everything? ==

Why the fuck are you reverting every single edit you see? Is that the only thing you can do? Is is your sole mission to not contribute, but revert everyone else who tries to? Sure, you could just change the singe byte of offending material, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO REVERT THE WHOLE GODDAMN EDIT. You've been doing this for as long as I've been observing. Also, you've been up my ass about everything the whole time I've been here. Haven't you been blocked before for this kind of thing? --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:01, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:Detour spends a lot of time on the wiki so he often sees poor/vandalistic edits before other editor do. Usually his reversions have been supported by the majority of editors, when he goes over the line Walky puts him in his place. My question is, why are you so sensitive? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:37, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
::If you've been up my ass too, you would see that this is the first time I've exploded over seomthing like this. I have been putting up with shit like this since I started editing here. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I don't know, just looking over your previous edits you seemed rather upset about things on the [[Twitcher F451]], [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], [[Starscream (BWII)]] and [[Shelfwarmer]] pages. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:52, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
* WHY ARE YOU REVERTING EVERUTHING???????????????--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 10:15, 7 November 2010 (EST)

If you don´t want people to write in the wiki, please let us know. You reverted some adds I made just because, like the vehicle model of some g1 mini-vehicles, the things on skids robot replica, saying its not the place for a small kinda review (just 3 or 4 lines) If you don't like people doing contributions, purchase this domain and make it yours!!! This is a wiki, based on everyone contributions --[[User:Galvatron77|Galvatron77]]
:"Based on everyone's contributions" doesn't mean "everyone's contributions should stick". Your addition are reviews, these should be objective overviews of the toy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:58, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

== Dalek ==

For your information, there is incorrect information on that page, that must be changed. The Daleks were never first called "Mark 3 travel machines" that is wrong. The were first called Daleks. The machine the ride in was first a Mark 1 Travel Machines, then a Mark 2 Travel Machine, and finally a Mark 3 Travel Machine. It was Davros who called the machine they ride in Mark 3 Travel Machine, but the creatures are called Daleks, and they were first called Kaleds before being mutated into Daleks. I don't know were the hell you got that from but they are also not cyborgs. They are creatures inside tanks basically. I was correcting that. Get your facts right before delete something I did. Trust me, I know more about the Daleks then you. Thus, my user name is LORD DALEK. That is why I am constantly changing that page. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:40, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:Except all that is irrelevant to what was said about Daleks within ''Transformers fiction'', which is what this Wiki is about. And I know plenty about Daleks. Don't assume you're some sort of lone Doctor Who fan on this wiki.--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Fine, I will stop editing the part that is in the comic, BUT THE INFORMATION IN THE NOTES IS WRONG!!! And I also did not say anything about being "a lone Doctor Who fan" I just was saying you undid my edit that was correcting incorrect statements. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:52, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
: That thing Detour linked to when he reverted you sure seems to think you're wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::I found two sources that go against what LordDalek is claiming. One is a general science fiction Wiki and the other is the TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki (which we link Doctor Who-related articles to). --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::ARGG! I have proof that what you said was wrong. Look, you right, they weren't called Daleks, nor they were Mark 3 Travel Machines. They were called merely mutants. Read this:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros|His solution is to remove all emotions pertaining to weakness, a category in which he groups such emotions as compassion, mercy and kindness, and place the mutants in tank-like "Mark III travel machines" partly based on the design of his wheelchair. He later names these creatures Daleks, an anagram of Kaleds.][[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:07, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::: Yyyyeah. You seem to be quoting the fictional history at us, while we're talking about the actual behind-the-scenes history of the characters. The comment you removed will stay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:11, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Actually, from a behind-the-scenes standpoint the name Dalek came first. But Who fiction-wise, it was established in a later serial (Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks's origin story) that the original name of a Dalek was a Mark III Travel Machine. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_of_the_Daleks "At that moment, Davros enters the laboratory, and demonstrates his new "Mark III travel machine", which he later dubs as a "Dalek"."]. If you want the note to focus less on fiction and more on production, I can always tweak it. But it's still a factual note one way or another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:25, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
Better yet, read this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants|For the most part a Dalek is simply a Dalek.Notable exceptions usually refer to rank, such as "Emperor" and "Supreme Dalek", although in Genesis of the Daleks Davros refers to the newly created Dalek casing as a "Mark 3 Travel Machine".] For the last bloody time, Mark 3 Travel Machines refers to the CASING not the actual creature.
[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:14, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Listen ItsWalky, when the Daleks first appeared in 1963 THEY WERE CALLED DALEKS. Davros is part of the fictional history, and the real creator of the Daleks was Terry Nation, and he called them Daleks. There. I now have fictional and behind the scenes evidence. The comment must be removed.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:29, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why would you ''ever'' want to err on the side of ''removing'' information rather than clarifying it? When is less information better?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:15, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

== This place is worse than Nazi Germany ==

SIEG HEIL, DON'T FUCK WITH THE LITTLE TRANSFORMER WIKIPEDIA. WE ONLY LIKE SOME POINTLESS ADDITIONS, NOT A LOT.

Fucking hypocrites. You included, Spanish twit.--[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Please mind your language. And this kind of tantrum-throwing won't exactly have people joining your side in the argument. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:18, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Fanmodes ==

I got the impression, per the "Fan-configurations of toys" discussion in the community portal, that we ''don't'' avoid fan modes, that brief mention of such is okay. [[User:JW|JW]] 11:58, 19 November 2010 (EST)

== Koiter brothers ==

Thanks for catching that spelling error I missed on their names! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Grimstone ==

Grimstone's drones' Mini-Con compatibilities are '''not''' mentionned on their own page.

== Ahem ==

Why did you revert my talk page edit regarding the doctor who connection on Talk:Death's Head?
NVM I see, I screwed it up.

== Emperor of Terror Scorponok ==

What's wrong with his edits? He seems to be adding several paragraphs of information, which you delete entirely. I see one or two typos here or there, but wouldn't it be easier to fix those than just remove his large amounts of work whole-hog? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:Believe me, I've been mulling over that myself, but ultimately, it's more than just typos. A lot of his sentences just don't read right and would ultimately require full rewrites. Figured someone else starting again from scratch would be better than a Cleanup tag... But if I'm wrong in this, sorry. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:23, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:: The English doesn't really read that badly. It's simple, but better than the nothing we have now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:29, 16 December 2010 (EST)

==New mexico vs. New Mexico==
Thanks, I totally realised the mistake soon after I made the page.
[[User:MadmanFoidart|MadmanFoidart]] 14:46, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Reverting edits ==

May I ask why you insist on reverting my edits? Especially the one just now about TransTech Megatron's concept design matching almost-perfectly to ROTF Megatron's design, which I see far more-notable than the "Oh look, it's an H-Tank, it atuomatically links to Armada Megatron" trivia listed before it, which you have left alone.

For this particular case, it is not merely my opinion that the two resemble each other more, as a quick glance at the image displayed in the trivia section, let alone what that trivia links to off-wiki, shows a closer resemblance to ROTF than Armada, by far.
[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 02:41, 27 January 2011 (EST)
:You're right, looks like I jumped the gun at that one. My apologies. Still, it could stand a rewriting to be a little less... dogpiley. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:35, 27 January 2011 (EST)

== Mindset ==

You said: ''It says the toy is a retool of Hailstorm, and Hailstorm was designed as the homage.''
If the Hailstorm/Mindset mold was designed as an homage to the original Mindset, then I don't see how the new Mindset could ''not'' be an homage to the original. Particularly since, given the way Hasbro is planning retools these days, the Hailstorm mold was ''always'' intended to be retooled into a Mindset. What is the distinction you're making? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:No ressemblance to the original character, for starters. If he was "clearly" intended as an homage, the head would surely have carried over the original character's visor at the very least, yes? And the colors, too. G2 Mindset was white, green and grey, this Autobot Mindset is blue and black. And lastly, the faction allegiance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 7 February 2011 (EST)
This is how I suspect it went down:
#Hailstorm toy was designed.
#[[Kyde]] was all, hey, dudes, that's totally Mindset.
#Hasbro decided to name its redeco "Mindset."
Somewhere in between 2 and 3, Toy Fair probably happened, when Aaron was all about how this toy was totally Mindset.
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:20, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:Hmm, okay. Point granted. [[User:JW|JW]] 07:22, 8 February 2011 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

I think the one that said Motormaster's size change is right, because Motormaster is the same size as Optimus, while Optimus has the same size as Motormaster in car mode, both of them with their trailers, i think there's size change in there.

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 19:24, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:Yeah, and there's a [[Powertrain|freighter truck]] that transforms into a robot that goes up to Prime's shin. Scale doesn't mean much in Transformers, you have Porsche Jazz towering over Porsche Cliffjumper and Jeep Hound towering over Jeep Brawn and F-15s turning into robots the same size as Lamborghinis. It's a dumb thing to note. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:39, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

== Windcharger ==

"This was removed before because it's false. Don't add it back" How is it false?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 23:09, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

==Bumblebee==
BOTH of you knock it the fuck off or you're both getting put in a corner for a while. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== DOTM Bumblebee ==

Just to clear things up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE&feature=feedu the maker of the video says:
because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 15:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

==If you don't like Robert Stack==

You should say so when you're taking funny things he said from the Ultra Magnus page. It's not as if the image even had a caption before, could you not have left it? I ask because since you didn't give a reason, it ''looks'' like you revert all IP edits you see on principle, without checking what was actually changed. Busy schedule? [[Special:Contributions/92.13.226.232|92.13.226.232]] 19:48, 5 April 2011 (EDT)
:Detour doesn't always check properly what an anon added, but he does check. On captions, the rules are very clear though: If you have not contributed to the wiki in a meaningful way, you are NOT allowed to add or change captions UNLESS you have asked permission first on the article's talk page. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:00, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Inferno (BW) ==

May I just ask why did you undo the caption edit?
: Because you replaced an existing caption with a YouTube link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Are YouTubes links forbidden? I do believe I saw them in captions on this Wiki before. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]]
::: Well, first there's the problem of ''replacing an existing caption.'' It's frowned upon. Second, a little '''[1]''' under an image isn't a caption. It's just a link. It's not pretty or witty, it's just an unmarked link. Captions should be captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:::: Well, yes, I suspected (now I know for sure) that much (the "frown upon" part), and that's (partially, anyway) the reason I've never edited a caption before. But no, wait, I was pretty sure that when I checked the article after the edit there was blue text "nope.avi" in the caption that was a link to a video, not just "[1]". Or am I missing something? --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 14:59, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Also, to further clarify things, I'll give this link: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nopeavi You can even find the screenshot the caption of which I changed in the related pictures there. I hope that article will be clear enough explanation of my motive to change the aforementioned caption. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 02:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

== Regarding the edits Eagc7 made ==

Apparently you haven't read the [[Megatron (Movie)]] article in awhile, because Eagc7 was just trying to help out. [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Megatron_%28Movie%29&diff=484337&oldid=481886 Xaaron made this edit] almost a year ago, most likely because nobody bothered to fill out that section since 2007. Nobody objected. Eagc7 evidently noticed this and was trying to make the other articles consistent. I think you should have questioned his motives before insta-reverting them. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:37, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mech-Tech page ==

The only reason it was "Just a list copied from the DOTM page" is because he HADN'T FINISHED THE PAGE YET --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:08, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
:It shouldn't be a list, it should be a description of the gimmick, like our [[Automorph Technology]] and [[Mech Alive]] pages, that's why it's tagged, it's even explained in the tag. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Fusion Cannon ==

You have undone my edit of Movie Megatron's fusion cannon twice now and I am wondering why? In the 2007 movie at 1:57:13 you can clearly see Megatron shoot Jazz with his fusion cannon from his RIGHT arm. I just watched it, so I know I am correct. If you have a good reason for undoing my edits, let me know, but until then I am just going to keep changing it back. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 02:43, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
:You didn't watch well enough. That's '''Jazz''' shooting Megatron, not the other way around. By contrast, Megatron's fusion cannon is clearly in his left arm, as you see Prime shoot him off balance before he fires, but he turns around, cannon clearly on his left arm, re-aims and shoots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:05, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Sorry but you didn't watch well enough. '''Jazz''' does fire first, then '''Megatron''' fires and Jazz goes flying. I haven't watched the battle with Optimus recently, so it may be that Megatron also has a fusion cannon in his left arm as well and can combine both to make them more powerful. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 10:00, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Maybe it's a different weapons system, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm assuming you have finally accepted that Megatron does shoot Jazz with his right arm and you watched the entire scene. The blast was blue like the blast from the combined fusion cannon and his fusion cannon from ROTF ,and it was very powerful, as it sent Jazz flying much in the same way as it did to Optimus in ROTF. Also, he lost his left arm at the end of the first movie, and if it were solely stored in his left arm, it would not have been present in ROTF. It's probably pretty safe to assume that "the Little One," who provided Megatron with parts did not possess a fusion cannon and the "Doctor" did not build a completely new one. IF you can come up with a better arguement than that or provide some official source material, I'll leave it alone, but if you keep using an ambiguous arguement I'll just keep editing the article.
:Do you have any evidence that it '''is''' his fusion cannon? A single blast from said cannon sent Optimus Prime, OPTIMUS PRIME, flying over a full city block into a building, while Jazz barely flew a few feet. But hey, for added evidence, [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h56m39s185.png this] does not look like either [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h57m49s50.png this] or [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h58m11s5.png this]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
No I don't have any evidence that it is a fusion cannon, but I think there is a better argument for it being a fusion cannon than not, as I stated above. And yes Jazz did only fly a few feet, but maybe that's because the fusion cannon was not at full power because it was not combined with Megatron's left arm. As for the pictures, they don't look anything like the crab claw fusion cannon, yet that is still a fusion cannon. I'm not trying to jerk you around; this is just how I see it and a lot of this is just opinion because Hasbro or whoever hasn't officially detailed anything. Maybe we could ask someone else who edits this Wiki for their opinion on it and just go with that?
:That doesn't work, because as my screenshots show, the fusion cannon is ''entirely part of Megatron's left arm''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
How does that explain how his fusion cannon moved from his left arm to his right arm? I don't see the problem with what I wrote, because it leaves the statement you wrote about the fusion cannon being stored in the left arm and it touches on the blast that was fired at Jazz with his right arm. It says nowhere that it '''is''' definitely a fusion cannon. All I wanted to write was that there is a possiblility that his right arm is a fusion cannon, or at least part of a whole. The scene with Jazz is up for interpretation, but I think it should be added so others who read this article can decide for themselves. As far as getting someone else's opinion, you will have to get someone to help with that. I don't know how to ask any of the main editors and I assume you probably do. Just have them comment in this section with an opinion on it.--[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 1:39, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

==why didnt you jsut fixed it?==
instead of removing all i wrote on the movie Starscream page, why didnt you just Fixed my typos and mistakes? {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Because I couldn't even understand what it was you were trying to say. Your poor English goes far beyond simple spelling errors. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:46, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, in that case, lets keep a Character Stub template (which i already did) {{unsigned|Eagc7}}

== Dude, STOP. NOW. ==

Abra cannot learn Hypnosis. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:19, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
: Seriously, you are now the wiki's worst vandal. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:31, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

== The Autobot Hero ==

I had thought of reverting his edit to Fire on the Mountain the same as you did, but decided against it as the internal link was a redlink. Are we planning on having an [[Andes Mountains]] page? If not, he actually did the right thing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:Well, [[Peru]] wasn't a redlink. Standard seems to be that locations where stuff happens in fiction deserve wiki articles. The Andes mountains do come up in both Fire in the Mountain and the Japanese PS2 Transformers game, so the location deserves a proper TFWiki article, IMO. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::And the Kid Stuff audiobooks have the Andes partially destroyed in "Storms of Destruction". [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:48, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Thanks for that! Added the link to it too. I'd love to make a page for it (being the huge Mysterious Cities of Gold nerd that I am) but since I don't have access to any of the material they show up in, there isn't much I can do. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:56, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

==Editing==
I read the "Help:Editing" page.-[[User:Dirgeor|Dirgeor]] 20:02, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Crowbar ==
I'm quite not sure why you removed my photo of Crowbar. Can you please tell me?
:Because it's a horrible shot that barely shows Crowbar at all, if that's even him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:05, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
It is him, you can clearly see Crankcase in another shot. I can understand that the shot wasn't great, but it's better than an inaccurate representation of him in Cyberverse form.

== Crisscross "Error" ==

Rather than risk a revert war, I'll simply discuss the matter here first.

If the package was delivered to the garage while Arcee was away for some unknown length of time, why should she question its origin? I still say someone from MECH could have broken into the garage, delivered the package, and locked up on their way out, thus accounting for the package's presence. (Yes, it's something of an error not to explain it in-story, but I think that's at least a feasible explanation.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: That's how I read the sequence of events. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: You make some good points. But after even two watchings the whole thing still felt weird. When you stop and think about it, only Jack or June could've taken care of the package... If Arcee assumes June has... she'd know Arcee wasn't in the garage. So... why's she so casual about the package? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:06, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
:: My postman leaves packages in my garage all the time if I'm not there to take delivery, honestly. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Editing ==
Can we please discuss our debates before filing pages for deletion? I have a strong argument. Please just listen to me.
-[[User:PurpleCyclops|Caleb]]
:No. You don't. Preliminary names are just that, '''preliminary'''. We're not calling Mirage "Rush", and the same applies to Crowbar and Hatchet. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
Rush isn't the final name for Mirage. Hatchet is a typhoon fighter jet. Crowbar is a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. The trio in the film are suburbans. This is not the case of renaming them. This is the case of '''different character'''.
:No, this is the case of '''different altmodes'''. Do we consider Sideways anyone but Sideways? Because his toy sure as hell wasn't a screen-accurate Audi, and didn't even use the proper color scheme. You're being utterly ridiculous. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was saying that the characters were most likely different since they hadn't the right altmode or altmode size, since Hatchet would be much too big to be a suburban, if he was a jet, and Crowbar would be too small if he was a police car. Sorry bout everything though, I agree, my argument '''is''' ridiculous.

== Joke ==
By reference, I meant a reference to something. A joke. Jokes aren't meant to be useful. And this wiki is full of them. One on almost every image. Which isn't very useful, when they could have a informative caption. But that's one of my favorite things about this wiki. It's humor. Once again, I find you reverting anything I post. Can't I just add a simple joke that can appeal to some people, without attracting the attention of you?
:It's humor, yes, but it's still a wiki. Signal to noise ratio is the key here, and smashing a bad joke about train delays in the first sentence of Astrotrain's bio isn't the way to go about it. Signal to noise, the wiki must be funny but also informative. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:21, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

You do have a point. I agree it is still a wiki, and it's not that informative. However you kind of missed the joke. A popular quote in a T.V. show about trains from my childhood was when the person would scold the train, he would say "you've caused confusion and delay". Nothing to do with train delays.

== Spam ==

Does [[User talk:Dynamic|THIS]] count as Spam?--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
:Not really. Spam is more people and/or bots trying to scam people with advertisements. Dynamic's talk page doesn't fall into that. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, either he's trying to share an easter egg with the wiki or he's trying to spark a discussion, either way it's not really spam. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:16, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
== Volume Number ==
Woops, sorry about that. After that anon troll was just going around changing tiny things on the year pages, I ended up with a bit of an itchy trigger finger. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:13, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

== Dave Fennoy Picture ==

Hi There. Could you find a picture of [[Dave Fennoy]] for his page?

== Doctor Arkeville in sound and furry ==

When the Hot Dog Bot rebels the man he is serving has the distinct rounded triangle jaw and mad scientist like hair style of G1 villain Doctor Arkeville. can you tell me anouther human character in either show has one of these characteristics yet he has both of them, it is pretty clear he is a homage to the classic decepticon allied human please stop reverting this
:Yeah, and I suppose Doc Brown is a Doctor Arkeville homage too? It's very common for old men to their hair up top, have their hair lose color and get a longer jaw. Just because one incidental character sported those features doesn't automatically mean HOMAGE. Please stop grasping at straws. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:37, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

:Doc Brown did not have a triangular rounded jaw and as for the hair several scientist in fiction have it as homage to Albert Einstein. However I am not aware of any other transformers characters that this hair style. Plus I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a longer jaw when they got older. It is not grasping at straws as much as seeing a comparison somebody made between the two and adding it here.
::No metal hat & hand = No Arkeville. --Thy2k, not logged in

== Found cosmos art from official artist! ==

I found some art of cosmy! should we replace the main page now? its from the official artist's deviantart page, sides we got most of the moving violations character photos from devianart too. for cosmos art see link http://tehkoreandude.deviantart.com/gallery/24312266#/d3lnp2f --User:Jazzerprime
:That's not official Transformers art. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:31, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Tell me ==

Do you actually look at people's edits before you revert them? --[[User:TheOnlyChoice|TheOnlyChoice]] 04:13, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. And you only had two edits the last one a month ago, before suddenly declaring yourself the lord of what's sucky or not. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:22, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

== It's true. ==

If they hadn't fallen in because of the surge, five seconds later, it would have turned them into transmetals and the lava wouldn't have had any more effect than a hot bath. If that doesn't describe irony, nothing does. [[Special:Contributions/70.77.36.81|70.77.36.81]] 20:40, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:I don't recall lava immunity being a Transmetal power. Just because Tarantulas survived it doesn't mean everyone else can, nor do it indicate that survival was directly due to Transmetalness. Also, noting it purely out of "irony" is like saying it's ironic Ironhide's shuttle was on an Energon run because if they weren't low on Energon they would've survived the Decepticon attack. It's silly and pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:44, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== Can you Remove ==
Can you remove "Luis Daniel Ramírez" page, since it seems this guy Arturo Castañeda is going to be Jack Darby voice in the spanish dub of Prime {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Sorry, I'm not a mod or an admin here so I don't have the power to do this. I'll tag it for deletion, though, if that help. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

== image tags ==

There are always stupid tags to images on a number of pages could you please stop putting these corny and rediculous tags. {{unsigned|108.66.204.65}}
:If by "tags" you mean the captions, then I recommend you familiarize yourself with [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|the wiki's policies regarding captions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:56, 10 November 2011 (EST)

== Arcee ==
Thank you very much for restoring that caption. Much appreciated. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 03:34, 26 November 2011 (EST)

== "Double Bruticus" ==

And the reason to remove the comment was...?
: The wiki in general does not cover unofficial fancreations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)

I guessing you think you have everything in Transformers prime, right?

== Steeljaw/Red Alert link ==

Huh. Didn't even see that link between the two. Thanks. Should the minor edit to [[Final Transformations]] be reverted to the Red Alert article as a whole, or keep the link to Red Alert's G2 (and only Marvel) appearance?
[[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 22:57, 29 February 2012 (EST)
:No, linking it to the G2 section was a good idea, since it refers to that specific event. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:09, 29 February 2012 (EST)
::Heh. Apologies about that. My connection is stuttering at the moment. [[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 00:36, 1 March 2012 (EST)

==Why do you delete my...?==
excuse me why do you delete my dreadwing image?
:Because it already existed on the wiki in its proper place. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

why have you deleted my leadfoot foto?[[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Because it has no reason to be in the Notes section. The Notes section is not a place to arbitrarily put whatever image tickles your fancy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

the other user has told me to put the image there [[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Andrusi said '''maybe''' if you followed proper [[Transformers Wiki:Images|image guidelines]] that it ''might'' be able to go in the Notes section, not that you could just put it in the Notes section. And even then, as he himself admits on the Leadfoot page, he was wrong on that count. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:51, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

so i can't add this image nowhere[[user:Shockwave1704]]

are you french? --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:18, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
: No, he's Canadian.....--[[Special:Contributions/81.164.215.61|81.164.215.61]] 12:19, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

ah ok, because there are some sentences in the france article that could be offensive --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:31, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

In World War II, France surrendered in the face of foreign invasion, leaving the population to suffer under a genocidal dictatorship for four years. This is seen as a source of hilarious jokes by some other nations.
[[User:Shockwave1704]]
:I don't really see how that's offensive. If anything, it reflects poorly on the aforementionned "other nations". =p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:50, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::yes, but in this article French army = cowards--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:01, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::No, the article says that people from other nations like to make jokes about the French being cowards. That is not the same thing as saying that the French are cowards. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:06, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::::i disagree with you, but if you think so...--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:26, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::::I really think this is a symptom of your level of English comprehension. To a native English speaker, the paragraph you quoted says exactly what I said it does. It is hard enough working in a language that you do not speak fluently, dealing with all of the humor on this site will make it even harder on you as many of the jokes simply won't translate. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:21, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

in my opinion humor is a symbol for every country. Italian people have got their humor, French people have got their humor, English people have got their humor. So it's possible that Italian people think your humorism is a little offensive. --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 08:57, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:No, it's your tenuous grasp on English that's making you miss the joke. Now drop it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:12, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

what? no, in my opinion you don't appreciate our humor because we are very different. I don't want to criticize you, but everyone can think how he wants --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:25, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:I haven't seen any instances of your humor anywhere. It's just clear you don't even ''get'' the damn joke. So drop the subject. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:33, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Bah --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:37, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

== Jokerberg ==

I love your Jokerberg statement when you edited [[Daran Norris]].--[[User:Ultra-Humanite|Humanite]] 22:18, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
:Thank you! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:15, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the help page. XD [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 00:47, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

== "Useless padding" ==

I sort of chuckled when I saw this line from you, good on you for having a sense of humour about it. :)
I couldn't help but notice, friend, that about a third of the information on this entire Wiki is "useless padding", meaningless trivia put there for no reason other than to impart interesting information to the reader. And of the remaining information, about a third of ''that'' is flat-out jokes inserted simply to make people laugh. Looking over the rest of that one page, off the top of my head, Toronto being the biggest city in Canada has absolutely nothing to do with Transformers, and the relationship between 'there are no Target stores in Canada' and Transformers is so tangential that it's just about on the same level. So I ask you, why did you ''really'' remove that information from the page? Really, if I don't know, I won't be able to avoid the mistake in the future. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 22:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

== Periods and Spaces ==

Oh, it's no trouble, friend. I just copy the text of the page from the edit window into notepad and then find-and-replace ". " with ". " to fix it up. Then I just copy it back over and go on with my regular correction of spelling errors and grammar checking. It's easy, and it's my pleasure to improve the quality of the Wiki. :-)
Also, some interesting reading for you to back up my position: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 23:43, 9 May 2012 (EDT)
:You're missing the point. It DOESN'T improve the quality of the wiki because it ISN'T WRONG. The link you provided is to an OPINION PIECE. It is the policy of this wiki that we don't care whether you use one space or two after a period and that there is no need to change one for the other. It's kind of like how we do not have a preference between US and UK spellings. Also, "friend", you are coming off rather smarmy and condescending here. That is not likely to get many people to back your position.--

== Subscription service figures ==

I had put those on the 2012 listing because that is what the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] page said. Should we change that page? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:02, 10 May 2012 (EDT)

== Faceless tags ==
I'm not the one removing them. [[Special:Contributions/TFMAN|TFMAN]] is. I just remove what he puts there in place of them. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:40, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
:Use the Undo button, that way you undo all the things he's changed, rather than just removing what he's added without putting back what he's removed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:41, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
::Alright, will do. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:43, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

== Vocab ==

I have a pretty good vocabulary. Plus the captions were for a lot stuff I remember growing up as a kid. Good Times Huh? The Picture for [[Tim Curry]]'s page was just Wow. I have never seen that movie before.[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 02:16, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

== Allspark Addendum ==

Thanks for help on the SG Animated pages. I'm used to making minor edits, and I don't have much experience on templates besides the bunny rabbit page. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.31.203|184.56.31.203]] 19:01, 31 May 2012 (EDT))

==IDW==
If i'm doing such a bad job, why don't you do those articles then? I've been at it forever, trying to edit that thing. Ed
: It would help if your additions were about the characters the article is about. Most of your "How Ratchet Got His Hands Back" additions to First Aid's page were about Ratchet! And it didn't mention at all that First Aid was promoted to Chief Medical Officer, which is the most important thing that happened to First Aid in that issue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:06, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

== Animated toy/merchandise section ==

I added "Fast food kids meal toys" subsections to [[Megatron (Animated)]] and [[Starscream (Animated)]] pages. With that, the pages got the same "Toys" layout of [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Optimus Prime (Animated)]] and [[Bumblebee (Animated)]], with an Subsection for each "toyline". If the subsection is wrong, it need to be removed from OP and BB pages. If the subsection is OK, why you removed they from Megatron and Starscream page?

And why you put the toys as available "only in Mexico and Venezuela"? I am in Brazil and have to eat some McDonalds Happy Meal to have my toys. Probably the toy was available in all Latin America (but this is a guess, for sure it was available in Brazil).
:The subsections are present on Bumblebee and Prime's pages because they have a '''huge''' amount of toys and merchandise to their name, which requires extra subsections. By contrast, Megatron and Starscream's numbers are more manageable, hence why the fast food premiums aren't categorized the same way. You'll notice Megs and Screams don't have subsections for Activators, Deluxe, Voyager, etc. either.
:As for why I only said Mexico and Venezuela, that's because that's all that's listed on the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:39, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
::Makes sense, but Starscream have the "Universe (2008)" subsection. Don't know why the "Fast food" subsection hurts, but will not re-add it, I was only trying to make the toy sections of each character more or less with the same layout/design. Before I waste my time, I have a lot of Merchandise itens to add for Megatron and Starscream (more for Megatron than for Starscream), it's OK to create an Merchandise section? I'll edit the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]] to be more accurate and include Brazil there. --[[User:Sharpfinger|Sharpfinger]] 20:48, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

==Shattered Expectations reference in Triage==
It's a rather obvious nod to it. If that's not considered a reference than you might as well not consider the "Beast Machines" line in TMI as a reference. {{unsigned|108.11.36.231}}
:Shattering expectations is a commonly used term, hence why it was fan-applied to Shattered Expectations proper. It's not a reference. Stop saying it is. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:34, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::If by "fan-applied" you man "the writers of the comic actually named it that", sure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:49, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::But it's almost completely out of place. That's like removing the thing about Hardshell saying "yes" in Toxicity by that logic.
:::It's not out of place, he just shattered Soundwave's visor, and that's the joke. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:09, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

== how to act towards others ==

I think for someone who acts like they own the wiki you should think about how you talk to poeple. As a member of the wiki you should show a little respect towards your fellow members start deleing peoples posts with out saying why and then starting personal attacks is a big no you make yourself look bad and the wiki.[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 13:45, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
:I started no personal attacks. You, on the other hand, called me an a-hole. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:55, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
I think he's just suggesting stuff, right? (lobythelegend 13:49, 22 June 2012 (EDT))

:I know you're angry, but why is that it seems that you're always in a bad mood to everyone who messes up in the Wiki? lobythelegend 13:46, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

== Accents ==

Ah, I had forgotten that. May I suggest this, then:
:The ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' film in 2007 takes the alternate tac that Optimus Prime and his troops learned Earth languages — including English ''and'' Mandarin Chinese, according to the novelization — by studying the [[Internet]]; presumably, each Autobot chose the accent that best fit their natural voice. In contrast, the Decepticons generally use the Cybertronian language. This distinction is lost in the sequels, in which all Autobots and Decepticons speak English even when, canonically, they have had no prior contact with the language.
'cause we really need to get rid of the paragraph that is there now.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 15:01, 29 August 2012 (EDT)

What do you have against what I posted about Octane's cameo in 'The Ultimate Weapon'?

== PCCs ==

According to Hydra Choppmaster and Rollermaster ARE Blazemaster and Straxus. Only the minions/Targetmaster little guys are new characters. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 13:19, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

== Why? ==

What is your problem? I added a joke to a picture of Slipstream that didn't have a joke. Or do you just feel the need to undo everything I do? {{unsigned|AutobotKickshift}}
:Until you contribute something, you should just leave captions alone. And sign your posts. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 18:21, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

== New ==

Hello. I'm New Here. Thanks for helping on [[Motoko Kumai]]. I Had to find some sources to fix the page. Not my Best. But I'll be careful. Slow Connection though.

Thanks Agian![[User:Energizer|Energizer]] 03:27, 14 December 2012 (EST)

== Computer Problems ==

The reason why my images are blurry is because my computer seems to have a problem with it. Apparently, my computer doesn't like my images being clear, so they just become blurry. I know, I noticed it too. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 00:41, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Still? ==

Again! How much do ''I'' have to contribute to make you understand that I have contributed enough to go to other pages
add captions or jokes on ''some'' images. Every time I go to the Articles that Need Images page I add an image and that means that I have contributed something. At least I have done something. I'm tired of being followed. I'm starting to belive you have ''not'' seen my captions.
Another thing that I would like to ask is: Why did you say that I could use some cleanup with the Bot Shots Battle Game! page. What's wrong with it? Does it need any more information? The last thing I would want is the page or my captions (or both) being deleted by anyone. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 11:49, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
:Thing is, all your images end up being deleted for being [[Template:Badimage|of poor quality]]. Whatever paint program you're using, try changing to something like [http://www.gimp.org GIMP] - using MS Paint or whatever you're doing is doomed to fail. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 12:28, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Once Again! ==

My image of Sky Garry has been deleted! This is the sixth time my image has been delted! It didn't even have bad quality! I'm starting to think that you want me to contribute on this wiki, because in seconds [[Sideways (RID)|someone]] has to delete something that I do. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 17:31, 15 April 2013 (EDT)

== Blatant and false information ==

To detour....

Who Are you and what blatant and false information as I been posting on bloody web?

Signed Assassinator
:You added information to Arcee (Movie) and Sideswipe (Movie) indicating that they were close allies and altered a statement about Arcee blaming herself for Bumblebee's injuries to say she blamed herself for Sideswipe's injuries. Which fiction is that from? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:41, 18 April 2013 (EDT)

== The Abominus Stragglers ==

I went ahead and looked for [[Blight (Prime)]], [[Windrazor (Prime)]], and [[Rippersnapper (Prime)]] and found them. One question though... do we wait until they're available in the USA/UK, or is it okay that they're only available in Taiwan? [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 22:07, 31 May 2013 (EDT)

User talk:Detour

2013-06-01T02:07:38Z

Combaticons4ever:

Will you please stop? You've been going in the same fucking circle for what, hours? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:43, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Daniel Ross at Botcon 2007==
I'll see your "Attendee", and raise you "Special Guest" with evidence straight from the official Botcon Archives themselves, lol. I confirmed this within the past hour with Mr. Ross via Facebook. Here's the Link to the archived "Special Guest" listing for Botcon 2007. [http://www.botcon.com/botcon07/guest07.cfm]

==Movie Jolt vs Movie Jolt==
Sorry if the post about Jolt not being confused with the previously released Jolt wasn't a good one... Just thought it was sort of a unique case that should be addressed, what with there being two movie Jolts, and unlike the 2007 one which didn't appear in any movies and has since been changed to a different character, also not appearing in the movies, the new Jolt is in the movie. I know that's what disambiguation is for, but I just thought it was an interesting bit of trivia that a movie character's name was already used in the movieverse, though for a different character. (not including the whole movie Arcee thing) -Cliffjumper Prime

==Megatron joke==
The monsters in MMPR always started out human-sized. Then, at some point, Rita throws her staff down from the Moon shouting "Make my monster grow!". The staff lands in the ground and energy shoots out of it, making the monster enormous. The laser effects around Megatron's cannon in that picture look a lot like the staff. Here is a YouTube clip of it: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUelB-OSneY]. Honestly, it's not a big deal to me, but the old joke doesn't really make any sense in the first place. It seems to be a premature ejaculation joke to go along with his cannon firing, but it's not like there's anybody else in the picture for the innuendo to be complete. I think the observation our anonymous editor made about the resemblance to the staff is actually pretty clever. A rare instance of somebody changing a joke for the better, IMO. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Huzzah! I have a talk page now! Anyway, thanks for clearing it up... I didn't get the ressemblance of Bandora's staff to the laser blast effects of Megatron's cannons... At least I understood the previous joke, wasn't all that funny but it made sense without the explanation. -[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

== Revert Revert ==

Slaggit! This is like, the fourth time this has happened to me. I SPECIFICALLY checked with a preview when I was about to make the reversion, and it did NOT tell me any edits had been made since I'd started mine. Apologies for the confusion and annoyance, but I am definitely not doing this on purpose...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
:No worries. I know it wasn't your fault. I'm pretty sure this happened to me at least once as well. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:11, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

==Treatment==
Hey, it's not uploaded anywhere anymore (but Don Murphy has no issues with us handing it around). I can send you the PDF, but I need your email. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nunchakus==
His name is "Michelangelo". :) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 14:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
:My bad. Haven't watched TMNT since the original toon. And I was never into Renaissance art or whatever era the artist namesake was from. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== Airazor caption ==

Hi. I was wondering what was wrong with the old caption for the Airazor photo.
:Essentially, there's nothing wrong with the toy so criticizing it like that is pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:29, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay. I didn't think the caption was meant as a criticism of the toy. I thought it was meant to point out that though she was designed as a female figure, she didn't really turn out looking any more female than any other Transformer (excluding Arcee and Thunderblast). But humor is subjective, and what I find somewhat funny might not seem funny at all to someone else.
:::Airazor was designed as a male figure. The toy/character only became female on the insistence of the show writers. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:15, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
::::We're talking about the caption for the Transmetal figure. I thought that one was designed from the start to be female.
:::::... oh! Did not realize. Sorry. Ignore me. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 09:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

== Blurr ==

He is known to be a member, which should be enough, but he is also known to appear again later in the season, both through the footage from Dubai and the teasers released on the blog. That's why I said that I believed that it ws exception enough if he wasn't a member, it wouldn't need to be moved, but both together seem to be compelling enough.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
:Look at your talk page, anything Dubai-related ''should not'' be discussed here in any capacity. We are not gloryhounds like Seibertron trying to be the first ones to announce every single giant spoiler of every single piece of media. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:49, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
::That's great, but that's not what I am trying to say. He was announced as a character a while ago, before Dubai, and on one of the creator blogs. He's known to be in the Elite Guard, and we even know who his American voice actor is. We've even had him make his first appearance. Dubai just confirmed an episode he reappears in. That's all I'm trying to say - that we know he's in the guard, and we have confirmation from various sources of a future appearance. Hell, that we've listed his voice actor should be confirmation enough.
::And I didn't make the edit to spread spoilers - I did it to add info to a wiki, when the info is confirmed. Yes, we should not be obsessed with news, but neither should we put blinders on and wait until info is months or years old. (Hyperbole, but you get my point)[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

== Rabbicrater Edits ==

Just FYI, the edits HooperX made were capitalizing on the fact that Rabbicrater looks like his name contains the word "rabbi", when in fact it's meant to be most of the word "rabbit". The caption gag of "L'chaim" thus becomes more obvious, though I like the current one better. As for the miscellaneous trivia, I think it's an attempt at a callback to one of the final scenes from the Mel Brooks film ''History of the World, Part 1''. So not TOTAL nonsense.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, well I don't know much about Judaism so "L'chaim" is kind of flying over my head right now (and I believe even if explained, the Yaoi Kiss Players joke will still be funnier)... And the misc trivia, well History Of The World Part 1 is one of the Mel Brooks films I have not yet had the pleasure of watching... Even then, it's kind of out of place in the same paragraph as the info about the rabbit on the moon... if Hooper wants to bring it back I would suggest he add another asterisk paragraph to point it out... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
::Long story short, a robot with the word "Rabbi" in his name, even if it actually has to do with "rabbit" is ripe for Judaism gags. "L'Chaim!" is a traditional exclamation of celebration. Originally, I was just gonna put the lyrics to Hava Nagila up there, but hey. The Kiss Players thing I had to stop and stare at - the two dudes humping are kind of cut out of the frame. But hey, whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
:::FWIW, "L'chaim" is a traditional Hebrew version of "Cheers!" and literally means "To life!" I'm up for ethnic humor as much as the <s>next</s> previous guy, but I still find the KP gag funnier in this case. The thought of "Hava Negila" lyrics as a caption does make me grin, though...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 16:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

== Real Gear hairdryer ==

Good you took that out for now, I was just too exited to post a unreleased toy for the Movie line, so I did not stop to check if it was real or not. I'm currently looking for more info on it and will put that back up once I found proof.
By the way, what do the read minus numbers next to your edit mean?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 12:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
-Edit, I fell for a joke! it was just a joke to take the piss of the US toy gun law.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 19:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
:Number of characters (letters and spaces) added or removed from the total article length by this edit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::....what? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm listening and I'm sorry [[User:Gyro-Robo|Gyro-Robo]] 22:43, 8 June 2008

== Mayhem Suppression Squad‎ ==

Hello ^^ I removed the [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]] from the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] members because [[:Category:Mayhem Suppression Squad‎]] is already under [[:Category: Shattered Glass characters]]. Just like [[Killbison]] only under [[:Category:Breastforce]] which is contained by Combiners, Decepticons, and Victory characters. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:49, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 1989 Character Models ==
Howdy! I saw the Bumblebee & Jazz pretender models. Do you happen to have higher resolution versions of these images that you'd be willing to share with me? Do you have any more images from this era? (The Ark III needs your help!) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:04, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== Drift ==

Fine, have it your way! This site could be something awesome for everybody, yet guys like you persist in making it a refuge for your snide insults and negativity. --[[User:Hutch|Hutch]] 03:47, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:If it helps... even some of us here think Detour takes the AHM-bashing to ridiculous extremes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:23, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Except a lot of what he yanked out was stuff not even written by me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:25, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Some of us are OK with desnarking the overly-snarked articles. Thankfully Rosicrucian just redid the removal. :P --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:29, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::::No, he yanked different parts, and rewrote another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:33, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
Man, just let it go. We're trying to make the trivia sections ''smaller'', y'know.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

No! Much, much bigger! I'm good with keeping the Poochie theme for SL: Drift's page, but we really, really gotta get a reference to Rurouni Kenshin on a Drift image somewhere down the line! I can't imagine McCarthy not having Kenshin in some corner of his mind when he was creating Drift. "Oh man, he'll be an ex-assassin, with a dark past he regrets, and he carries a special sword! AWESOME!" --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 16:20, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

==Vandalism?==
Thanks for fixing my page, I appreciate it. Apparently Mr. Anon didn't take too kindly from me having to up and leave his little "discussion". People gotta go do other things besides argue with somebody on the other side of the computer all day. So do you know how severe punishment is for vandalizing someone's User Page?---[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:15, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:In this case, I'm inclined to believe it was a simple accident. The guy isn't really all that wiki savvy, and may have just clicked on your sig and thought it was your talkpage. He's... well, I don't hold any illusions he's going to be a productive user here, but he's on a dynamic IP and isn't outright harmful so I'm not sure what a block would accomplish.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:17, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::True, I didn't take that into account. I tend to jump to the vandalism claim (or any claim honestly) a little too gung-ho sometimes, and this is one of those times.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 22:27, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:::S'okay. I mean, I'd be lying if I said my cursor didn't hover over the block button on him while I thought about it. Trouble is his two IPs so far don't even seem to share a common subnet, so even an IP range ban wouldn't be viable. If he becomes genuinely abusive lemme know and I'd be happy to play whack-a-mole with his IPs.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:31, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, I'm new here. Won't happen again, trust me.--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:59, 12 June 2009 (EDT)

*Z-z-zay, is it no vandalism to undo the another's additionz-z-z-z without any explanation? What's wrong with z-z-z-z-them?--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 01:11, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:They didn't make any sense. You should stick to adding to the synopsis/etc. because your English seems to slip right down to nonsensical when you do captions. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:47, 1 December 2009 (EST)

==Barricade ROTF DS game==
Why instand of deleting it why dont you fix all my misspelling i have the game and all barricade parts are true.--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]
:So... the burden is on ''us'' to fix what you write?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:Because neither I nor anyone else on the wiki is your personal spellchecker. If you want your edits to stick, put some effort into it and that includes using proper English. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:07, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

== Ze little one ==

"The identity of ze little one is a bit on the fraught side. In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer (Rampage), a concrete mixer (Mixmaster), a dump truck (Long Haul) and a yellow front-end loader are visible. The yellow front-end loader is the alternate mode of the Constructicon Scrapper, and ze little one's robot mode appears to be the same as Scrapper's. As such, the temptation to just consider this a Scrapper unit is great... except that, after the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears, and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator, clearly marked with a large Decepticon insignia. For the purposes of reducing headaches, we're assuming that the excavator is the "correct" vehicle mode, and that it just happens to transform into a robot mode that resembles Scrapper...even though it's not him. "

I wasn't aware of the decision that had reached on the "Ze little one" page, so I didn't realize that this was the reasoning being used. I can agree with this, and I'm sorry the discussion got so hostile. Have a great week.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:30, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== SG Ark & SG Nemesis ==

I'd just have Derik's bot fix those links along with the rest. I only fixed the others because there was about 2-3 links each instead of the 60+ for those two pages. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)

==Thanks for giving me my username==

Seriously best alias ever [[User:Potty Mouth Anon|Potty Mouth Anon]] 01:55, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

== TFA: S.P.'s amnesia ==

You completely sure about that? Seemed like a kind of joke to me - Wasp going through this whole list of humiliation and Sentinel denying it while keeping a straight face.
EDIT: sorry for double posting, my browser's acting a little strange [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:26, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
:Except Sentinel finishes the scene by saying "Wait a minute, that was you?" He genuinely doesn't remember, only recalling it then and there. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:27, 25 August 2009 (EDT)
::Oookay, my bad. Seems like his ego is powerful enough to erase memories of minor, non-significant beings like Wasp, Bee or Bulky... [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 13:45, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Deaths of Optimus Prime "fanon"==
That... wasn't fanon. It was more awkwardly phrased, but consistent with how it was portrayed in the episode. Aerialbots even say, to my recollection, that there are "others at the hanger." Elita-1 was rebuilt. Dion wasn't mentioned. What part of that is fanon, and why did that give you the right to allcaps that dude into submission for it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:17, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well it explicitly said in the anon guy's contribution way back there that "Ariel and Dion were also rebuilt" (followed by an awkward parenthesis saying Ariel at least). Plus, the episode itself is awkwardly phrased... Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel" as though he actually meant to say "there's another one back at the hangar, his girlfriend Ariel". After Orion is rebuilt as Prime, there's no concern for any "others" and they only speak of Ariel, whom Alpha Trion says he'll "send droids out for". No mention at all that he'd rebuild other casualties of the hangar massacre. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:32, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
::Another interpretation: Slingshot says "There are others back at the hangar, [for example] his girlfriend Ariel." Otherwise, he's not being correct when he says there are "otherS" there. Plural. I'm not saying that Alpha Trion rebuilt anybody other than Prime and Elita, or that we have any evidence thereof. I'm saying what the guy wrote, in that particular revision, was technically correct. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:50, 6 October 2009 (EDT)
:::The ''best'' kind of correct. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:06, 6 October 2009 (EDT)

== the Peter Cullen photo. ==

I know the person who is in that picture. I thought it would be fun depicting him being the nice guy that he is. If you want me to identify where I got the image from, I can link you right to the source. [[User:Unicron|Unicron]] 02:59, 12 October 2009 (EDT)

== editing ==

sorry about the starscream page, but did you really have to edit out '''''everything''''' I did? [[User:Masterman555|Masterman555]] 22:54, 21 October 2009 (EDT)
:Well, yeah. You screwed up the formatting and the order of figures in the toy section, messed with captions and changed all the thumbnails to ungodly huge sizes. It's pretty standard procedure to undo that. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:14, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Heroes Thrust eyes==
Thank you for correcting that, I just took an even closer look to the toy and realized I had made a mistake.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:39, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== IDW ==

Oh come on, dude. We can take the piss out of IDW sometimes, but that last edit was a bit much.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:43, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:Not even my words there. But like a lot have said... Continuum is pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back. And really, their own page needs a dose of piss-taking-out too, no matter how slight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:46, 12 November 2009 (EST)
What Rosi said. No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==British English spellings==
Please read [[Help:Style_guide#National_varieties_of_English]], it mentions guidelines to spelling that may help you. As Club material is published by a company based in Texas, I went with the American English. Keep British English spelling in the UK articles. [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:06, 21 November 2009 (EST)

==Captions==
Detour, He-l-en has been contributing to the Armada episode articles in a generally positive manner. Please stop reverting her caption changes. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:27, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:Positive, yes, but thus far little more than minor summary changes in Armada... followed by large doses of captioning. I'll lay off since you asked me. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:01, 29 November 2009 (EST) (I can still change his captions to different ones if I come up with better ones, though, right?)
::I am trying to handle the situation in a delicate manner; He-l-en is both a new user and someone whose first language is not English, so we cannot immediately expect her to know every facet of our policy right away. Reverting a person's edits without telling them why is not a good way to grow new users. I'm just trying to be courteous. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:15, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::Well, it's not like we don't always revert people who aren't doing anything but changing captions. He-l-en is at least also contributing a little bit of info, but we still generally tell people to leave the captions alone when they're new and just worry about adding actual info to the articles. (And it's not like we don't have plenty of Help guides available to read, either...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:20, 29 November 2009 (EST)
::::''We'' know we change people's captions back, yes, but I am inclined to be more lenient to someone who has only been around for two days... hrm. Actually, I am inspired. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 06:57, 29 November 2009 (EST)
:::::His English seems to have landslided down to "nonsensical" once he started editing captions... Can I revert those, at least? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:59, 29 November 2009 (EST)

== Sideways Part-swapping pics ==

Detour-
I do have pics of the part-swapped Sideways, however I am not sure how to upload them to the Wiki and add them to the page. If you'd like, I can e-mail them to you if you PM Ultrawave over at TFW2005 (that is my account). Unless there is another way to upload them that I am not aware of? [[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 04:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Made a Photobucket and uploaded my pic to satisfy your curiousity-- [http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af279/Blitzgear/DSCN0897.jpg] =)[[Special:Contributions/131.191.68.29|131.191.68.29]] 18:44, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Sari Edit ==
why did you edit my addition to the page? what i typed was factual. --[[User:0utrun|0utrun]] 23:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)

== Blackarachnia "hit it with a shovel" joke ==

Why do you deem it so important to take the joke out? It works, it fills an empty caption space, so why? Seriously, Why? --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:09, 6 January 2010 (EST)

== Lockdown's position as a bounty hunter. ==

This isn't something like revealing the gimmicks to a toy or an electronic voice, or even a street date. It's no secret that the ROTF figure is based off a "bounty hunter", you've seen the card say he's a "bounty hunter" regardless if it isn't officially released, is the addition of a category "Bounty Hunter" seriously enough to get you this unnecessarily riled up? It's not like I'm saying something like he's an Autobot sympathizer or something. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 02:20, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==Captions==
No one appointed '''you''' the master of captioning. You're acting like a goddamn jackboot, so take a time-out. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:59, 6 January 2010 (EST)

==My Grammar==
Well i going to tell you why i have bad grammar, i have good grammar BUT i type so freaking Fast in result i make typos, Aslo there some words that i cant spell, aslo i try to slow down but then i start to write fast again -Eagc7
: Then either slow down enough so you can write competently, or don't write at all so we don't spend so much time cleaning up your amazingly-sized mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:38, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Why did you remove my edit? ==

The article discusses fanfiction, so I named two common pairings as an example. It seemed relevant. [[User:CH|CH]] 16:25, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Because the fandom is so large, fragmented and clique-esque that there's really no way to measure what's relevant/common unless it's completely widespread, as in to the point that even average fans that don't read fanfic are familiar with the concepts used. Megatron/Starscream pairings probably predate Beast Wars itself, Starscream/Alexis was a freakin' epidemic for a time. Those are somewhat "worthy" of mention (in a squicky infamous way). Prime/Mikaela and Bumblebee/Sam, however? Although I'm not shocked they exist, I don't believe the average fans would know for certain that they do. And it isn't really quite as notable (again, Starscream/Alexis being an epidemic), no more than hypothetical pairings like Cheetor/Una or Sky-Byte/Koji.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:37, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::''Friend of Autobots''
::''Sometimes he talks to me too''
::''My spark fills with joy'' --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:18, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Right..... ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Beast_Machines_(cartoon)&curid=15&diff=430695&oldid=430694 What was that weird edit summary all about?] --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:56, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Look at your keyboard, and look at each letter to the left of the letter I typed. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 08:12, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::It seems we use very different keyboards. All I'm getting is gibberish. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 09:32, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::It says "something's wrong with my eyes," okay? Big hairy deal. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== Double dash template ==
Works just 100% fine on Opera and in Firefox and in IE7, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The whole purpose it was created was to clear things without creating gaps above the headers. So stop changing it every time I fix the formatting, as you're driving me insane and I'm going to start reverting you every time you do it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:Well it doesn't work on me in neither IE nor Firefox. So clearly the coding for it must be flawed somehow. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:22, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::IIRC, you're one of the folks using IE6, aren't you? That would explain that part, if so. As for Firefox, it works fine on Firefox for me, so I just don't know what you're talking about there. (I also checked IE7 and it works fine there as well...)
::But in any case, bring it up with Derik to fix any problems rather than constantly removing it, considering the whole reason the template exists to begin with is to solve an issue folks used to be griping about. About the only issue I've ever had is that there has to be no line return space between the dash template and the following header, but that's easily tweaked while editing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:38, 27 February 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I'm one of the five people on Earth still using IE6. I like the button layout better, sue me. But I do have Firefox 3.5.6 and <nowiki>{{--}}</nowiki> does the same amount of jack squattage. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 27 February 2010 (EST)
::::You do realize button layouts are easily changed in most browsers, yes? (And I'd think lots of broken sites with missing features would be a bigger annoyance... having to surf using IE6 at one of my jobs last year was downright painful, it's missing so many useful standards.)
::::But, like I said, never had issues with FF at all. And even if there are, again, have Derik tweak the CSS, rather than unfixing the formatting fixes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:13, 27 February 2010 (EST)

== *sigh* "first edit ever" ==

fact is I've been editing over the years and adding useful tid bits here and there, but the wiki just can't seem to hold a proper account. so I start a new and get treated like a punk. gratitude for ya.

And yeah, the tone really isn't to my liking. Derek J Wyatt puts down Beachcomber and everyone treats it as canon that the character is not well liked. well I like him! And think the article should be more even handed.

So tell me, how am I supposed to get started here? I can't edit "the funny" as I've been told the last time I tried a permanent account, I can't help to rewrite an article, what do you want from me? When to I earn the right to call out the Beach Comber page for being offensive? --[[User:Stly92|Stly92]] 01:15, March 18, 2010 (EST)

== Jim-Bob's Diner is indeed a reference to James Roberts ==

[[Maximum Dinobots issue 2|Jim-Bob's Diner]] is, in fact, a reference to ''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' co-writer [[James Roberts]]. Nick Roche said it himself [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=161572#161572]. (At first, '''I''' thought--and was '''very sure'''--it was a reference to '''Jim''' Salicrup and '''Bob''' Budiansky.) --[[User:Jeff39042|Jeff39042]] 19:40, 11 April 2010 (EDT)
:Well then that belongs in the Notes... not a confusing random link in the middle of the synopsis. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:06, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

== Last Dutch Issue ==

The IP Anon [[Special:Contributions/195.240.16.74|195.240.16.74]] removed the "last Dutch issue" sentence from "[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]" because he was shifting it to "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]" Now, this may require verification (which is why I'm not undoing your reversal yet), but at least it's not a random act of Anon vandalism.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:24, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, I reverted it before he did the rest. I don't know who to ask for verification, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:50, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::Looks like the anon was actually [[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] not logged in. Good enough to allow now, or do we still need a citation? Sunjumper mentions on his anon-IP talk page (linked in just above, there) where he saw mention of the last-issue status.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 13:13, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
:::If he's Dutch, sure. You're in the better position to make that call anyway. :p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:41, 10 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Based on his recent contribution to the BW article, I'd say he his. Well and good, then.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:18, 10 May 2010 (EDT)

== Anon-made G1 Cast List ==

I'll grant I didn't do more than a rough glance over it, so I can't vouch for its accuracy, but it WAS in keeping with our formatting for other TV series' front pages. Granted, the cast's much larger and so may be too overwhelming a list for the page, but in principle, it wasn't a ''wrong'' idea. Might be worth adding a notice as to why the G1 TV series page would differ in that respect from other series'.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:29, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Toy Swapping ==

Look, I am sorry to keep adding tat. I just thought it was important to have in the article, because it was under the same idea. And just so you know, this whole website is full of crappy, big, poorly written sections and just want to help improve some facts not added. So you can take that comment and stick it were it belongs. I just tried to add something.

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== Toy Swapping 2 ==

I am sorry for the previous comment made by myself about the edit. I was in a really bad mood and would not tolerate anything. I will stop trying to edit or fix any articles to fix things that people deleted that I made. I do sincerly apologize. People have been quite rude to me on this website and I was starting to get stressed. Not to mention I have major anger manigment issues. I am quite sorry for my comments.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 12:37, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

== Hey. ==

Yo, be quiet bitch. {{unsigned|TheRex4441}}
:Keep it polite, please. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:39, 24 June 2010 (EDT)

== Prime VAs ==

The editor was right about Optimus & Megatron's VAs, he just didn't have the right source. (It was revealed in a recent BotCon panel.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:12, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

==edit war==
If this edit war does not stop in five minutes and people don't stop getting aggressive at each other, all three of you are getting a time-out. The note is pretty pointless, at best it would be only on Prime Soundwave's page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:28, 4 July 2010 (EDT)

==Translation help==
Hey, Detour. Since you speak French, could you help me by correcting any bad translations I have for the French ''Animated'' episode titles [[User:Interrobang/Crap|here]]? Thanks! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:24, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
:Done. Egads, epic fail on the dub team on translating Five Servos Of Doom. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:06, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Thanks! That was one of the titles that threw me off. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:21, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== Cloaca joke? ==

Was there something wrong with [[Airazor (BW)|it]]? [[Special:Contributions/72.229.51.77|72.229.51.77]] 15:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Anon reverts==
When a dude changes something, and you change it back, and he changes it back with comment asking why it's changed... it might be better, if you're going to simply revert it again, to at least leave a comment of your own, explaining why? If he's explaining his actions, you owe that same courtesy back, even if he's in the wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:25, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
:You're absolutely right, and I can't for the life of me remember WHY I didn't do just that. It's been hectic in my neck of the woods these past few days, I apologize. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:02, 28 July 2010 (EDT)
::Come to think of it, I think the reason might've been that I meant to leave the explanation on his talk page, but ended up being sidetracked by other things. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:03, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

== Nice caption ==

<nowiki>:</nowiki>D --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:40, 15 August 2010 (EDT)
:Hah, I was just waiting for someone to add a pic of him so I could throw add that caption. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:41, 15 August 2010 (EDT)

== Decepticon Drone ==

I am sorry. I thought it looked simmilar, due to the Red T visor, silver and black head, but not the body.

== [[Katsuyuki Konishi]] and [[Frank Miller]] ==

My joke(s) may be weak, but
#I wasn't violating any [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|caption policies]].
#I uploaded the [[Frank Miller]] image. I deserve a caption or something.
#[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#Links that overexplain jokes|Explaining the joke is not funny]].
#(Regarding the link I put at the Konishi caption):
:* A straight quote from Gurren Lagann isn't really very funny by itself.
:* Frank Miller isn't someone you'd think to find on TFWiki. I'd like to show people that he does belong here and how nteresting a coincidence it is, that ''both'' sources of the line contributed to TF. I imagine people reading the link would be like: "Oh yeah, there's also that. Wait, this wiki has an article on F. Miller? What has he got to do with TF? Gonna check that."
But really, I'm more upset about your changing of the caption at Frank Miller for reason number 2. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 10:38, 29 September 2010 (EDT)

== Why are you reverting everything? ==

Why the fuck are you reverting every single edit you see? Is that the only thing you can do? Is is your sole mission to not contribute, but revert everyone else who tries to? Sure, you could just change the singe byte of offending material, BUT NO, YOU HAVE TO REVERT THE WHOLE GODDAMN EDIT. You've been doing this for as long as I've been observing. Also, you've been up my ass about everything the whole time I've been here. Haven't you been blocked before for this kind of thing? --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:01, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:Detour spends a lot of time on the wiki so he often sees poor/vandalistic edits before other editor do. Usually his reversions have been supported by the majority of editors, when he goes over the line Walky puts him in his place. My question is, why are you so sensitive? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:37, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
::If you've been up my ass too, you would see that this is the first time I've exploded over seomthing like this. I have been putting up with shit like this since I started editing here. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 10:47, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I don't know, just looking over your previous edits you seemed rather upset about things on the [[Twitcher F451]], [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], [[Starscream (BWII)]] and [[Shelfwarmer]] pages. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:52, 5 October 2010 (EDT)
* WHY ARE YOU REVERTING EVERUTHING???????????????--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 10:15, 7 November 2010 (EST)

If you don´t want people to write in the wiki, please let us know. You reverted some adds I made just because, like the vehicle model of some g1 mini-vehicles, the things on skids robot replica, saying its not the place for a small kinda review (just 3 or 4 lines) If you don't like people doing contributions, purchase this domain and make it yours!!! This is a wiki, based on everyone contributions --[[User:Galvatron77|Galvatron77]]
:"Based on everyone's contributions" doesn't mean "everyone's contributions should stick". Your addition are reviews, these should be objective overviews of the toy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:58, 4 September 2012 (EDT)

== Dalek ==

For your information, there is incorrect information on that page, that must be changed. The Daleks were never first called "Mark 3 travel machines" that is wrong. The were first called Daleks. The machine the ride in was first a Mark 1 Travel Machines, then a Mark 2 Travel Machine, and finally a Mark 3 Travel Machine. It was Davros who called the machine they ride in Mark 3 Travel Machine, but the creatures are called Daleks, and they were first called Kaleds before being mutated into Daleks. I don't know were the hell you got that from but they are also not cyborgs. They are creatures inside tanks basically. I was correcting that. Get your facts right before delete something I did. Trust me, I know more about the Daleks then you. Thus, my user name is LORD DALEK. That is why I am constantly changing that page. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:40, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:Except all that is irrelevant to what was said about Daleks within ''Transformers fiction'', which is what this Wiki is about. And I know plenty about Daleks. Don't assume you're some sort of lone Doctor Who fan on this wiki.--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Fine, I will stop editing the part that is in the comic, BUT THE INFORMATION IN THE NOTES IS WRONG!!! And I also did not say anything about being "a lone Doctor Who fan" I just was saying you undid my edit that was correcting incorrect statements. [[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 15:52, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
: That thing Detour linked to when he reverted you sure seems to think you're wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::I found two sources that go against what LordDalek is claiming. One is a general science fiction Wiki and the other is the TARDIS Index File, the Doctor Who Wiki (which we link Doctor Who-related articles to). --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::ARGG! I have proof that what you said was wrong. Look, you right, they weren't called Daleks, nor they were Mark 3 Travel Machines. They were called merely mutants. Read this:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davros|His solution is to remove all emotions pertaining to weakness, a category in which he groups such emotions as compassion, mercy and kindness, and place the mutants in tank-like "Mark III travel machines" partly based on the design of his wheelchair. He later names these creatures Daleks, an anagram of Kaleds.][[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:07, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::: Yyyyeah. You seem to be quoting the fictional history at us, while we're talking about the actual behind-the-scenes history of the characters. The comment you removed will stay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:11, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Actually, from a behind-the-scenes standpoint the name Dalek came first. But Who fiction-wise, it was established in a later serial (Genesis of the Daleks, the Daleks's origin story) that the original name of a Dalek was a Mark III Travel Machine. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_of_the_Daleks "At that moment, Davros enters the laboratory, and demonstrates his new "Mark III travel machine", which he later dubs as a "Dalek"."]. If you want the note to focus less on fiction and more on production, I can always tweak it. But it's still a factual note one way or another. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:25, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
Better yet, read this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalek_variants|For the most part a Dalek is simply a Dalek.Notable exceptions usually refer to rank, such as "Emperor" and "Supreme Dalek", although in Genesis of the Daleks Davros refers to the newly created Dalek casing as a "Mark 3 Travel Machine".] For the last bloody time, Mark 3 Travel Machines refers to the CASING not the actual creature.
[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:14, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Listen ItsWalky, when the Daleks first appeared in 1963 THEY WERE CALLED DALEKS. Davros is part of the fictional history, and the real creator of the Daleks was Terry Nation, and he called them Daleks. There. I now have fictional and behind the scenes evidence. The comment must be removed.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:29, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Why would you ''ever'' want to err on the side of ''removing'' information rather than clarifying it? When is less information better?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:15, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

== This place is worse than Nazi Germany ==

SIEG HEIL, DON'T FUCK WITH THE LITTLE TRANSFORMER WIKIPEDIA. WE ONLY LIKE SOME POINTLESS ADDITIONS, NOT A LOT.

Fucking hypocrites. You included, Spanish twit.--[[User:Tommy-Vercetti|Tommy-Vercetti]] 18:13, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Please mind your language. And this kind of tantrum-throwing won't exactly have people joining your side in the argument. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:18, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Fanmodes ==

I got the impression, per the "Fan-configurations of toys" discussion in the community portal, that we ''don't'' avoid fan modes, that brief mention of such is okay. [[User:JW|JW]] 11:58, 19 November 2010 (EST)

== Koiter brothers ==

Thanks for catching that spelling error I missed on their names! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)

== Grimstone ==

Grimstone's drones' Mini-Con compatibilities are '''not''' mentionned on their own page.

== Ahem ==

Why did you revert my talk page edit regarding the doctor who connection on Talk:Death's Head?
NVM I see, I screwed it up.

== Emperor of Terror Scorponok ==

What's wrong with his edits? He seems to be adding several paragraphs of information, which you delete entirely. I see one or two typos here or there, but wouldn't it be easier to fix those than just remove his large amounts of work whole-hog? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:Believe me, I've been mulling over that myself, but ultimately, it's more than just typos. A lot of his sentences just don't read right and would ultimately require full rewrites. Figured someone else starting again from scratch would be better than a Cleanup tag... But if I'm wrong in this, sorry. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:23, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:: The English doesn't really read that badly. It's simple, but better than the nothing we have now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:29, 16 December 2010 (EST)

==New mexico vs. New Mexico==
Thanks, I totally realised the mistake soon after I made the page.
[[User:MadmanFoidart|MadmanFoidart]] 14:46, 10 January 2011 (EST)

== Reverting edits ==

May I ask why you insist on reverting my edits? Especially the one just now about TransTech Megatron's concept design matching almost-perfectly to ROTF Megatron's design, which I see far more-notable than the "Oh look, it's an H-Tank, it atuomatically links to Armada Megatron" trivia listed before it, which you have left alone.

For this particular case, it is not merely my opinion that the two resemble each other more, as a quick glance at the image displayed in the trivia section, let alone what that trivia links to off-wiki, shows a closer resemblance to ROTF than Armada, by far.
[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 02:41, 27 January 2011 (EST)
:You're right, looks like I jumped the gun at that one. My apologies. Still, it could stand a rewriting to be a little less... dogpiley. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:35, 27 January 2011 (EST)

== Mindset ==

You said: ''It says the toy is a retool of Hailstorm, and Hailstorm was designed as the homage.''
If the Hailstorm/Mindset mold was designed as an homage to the original Mindset, then I don't see how the new Mindset could ''not'' be an homage to the original. Particularly since, given the way Hasbro is planning retools these days, the Hailstorm mold was ''always'' intended to be retooled into a Mindset. What is the distinction you're making? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:13, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:No ressemblance to the original character, for starters. If he was "clearly" intended as an homage, the head would surely have carried over the original character's visor at the very least, yes? And the colors, too. G2 Mindset was white, green and grey, this Autobot Mindset is blue and black. And lastly, the faction allegiance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:22, 7 February 2011 (EST)
This is how I suspect it went down:
#Hailstorm toy was designed.
#[[Kyde]] was all, hey, dudes, that's totally Mindset.
#Hasbro decided to name its redeco "Mindset."
Somewhere in between 2 and 3, Toy Fair probably happened, when Aaron was all about how this toy was totally Mindset.
--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:20, 7 February 2011 (EST)
:Hmm, okay. Point granted. [[User:JW|JW]] 07:22, 8 February 2011 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

I think the one that said Motormaster's size change is right, because Motormaster is the same size as Optimus, while Optimus has the same size as Motormaster in car mode, both of them with their trailers, i think there's size change in there.

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 19:24, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:Yeah, and there's a [[Powertrain|freighter truck]] that transforms into a robot that goes up to Prime's shin. Scale doesn't mean much in Transformers, you have Porsche Jazz towering over Porsche Cliffjumper and Jeep Hound towering over Jeep Brawn and F-15s turning into robots the same size as Lamborghinis. It's a dumb thing to note. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:39, 14 March 2011 (EDT)

== Windcharger ==

"This was removed before because it's false. Don't add it back" How is it false?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 23:09, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

==Bumblebee==
BOTH of you knock it the fuck off or you're both getting put in a corner for a while. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:45, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== DOTM Bumblebee ==

Just to clear things up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqamRtmGRE&feature=feedu the maker of the video says:
because this figure is smaller than any other version of bumblebee, they technically are all brand new parts. They couldn't reuse any other Bumblebee parts cause they no longer would fit.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 15:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

==If you don't like Robert Stack==

You should say so when you're taking funny things he said from the Ultra Magnus page. It's not as if the image even had a caption before, could you not have left it? I ask because since you didn't give a reason, it ''looks'' like you revert all IP edits you see on principle, without checking what was actually changed. Busy schedule? [[Special:Contributions/92.13.226.232|92.13.226.232]] 19:48, 5 April 2011 (EDT)
:Detour doesn't always check properly what an anon added, but he does check. On captions, the rules are very clear though: If you have not contributed to the wiki in a meaningful way, you are NOT allowed to add or change captions UNLESS you have asked permission first on the article's talk page. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:00, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Inferno (BW) ==

May I just ask why did you undo the caption edit?
: Because you replaced an existing caption with a YouTube link. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Are YouTubes links forbidden? I do believe I saw them in captions on this Wiki before. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]]
::: Well, first there's the problem of ''replacing an existing caption.'' It's frowned upon. Second, a little '''[1]''' under an image isn't a caption. It's just a link. It's not pretty or witty, it's just an unmarked link. Captions should be captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:::: Well, yes, I suspected (now I know for sure) that much (the "frown upon" part), and that's (partially, anyway) the reason I've never edited a caption before. But no, wait, I was pretty sure that when I checked the article after the edit there was blue text "nope.avi" in the caption that was a link to a video, not just "[1]". Or am I missing something? --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 14:59, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Also, to further clarify things, I'll give this link: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/nopeavi You can even find the screenshot the caption of which I changed in the related pictures there. I hope that article will be clear enough explanation of my motive to change the aforementioned caption. --[[User:SymbolsWriter|SymbolsWriter]] 02:29, 13 April 2011 (EDT)

== Regarding the edits Eagc7 made ==

Apparently you haven't read the [[Megatron (Movie)]] article in awhile, because Eagc7 was just trying to help out. [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Megatron_%28Movie%29&diff=484337&oldid=481886 Xaaron made this edit] almost a year ago, most likely because nobody bothered to fill out that section since 2007. Nobody objected. Eagc7 evidently noticed this and was trying to make the other articles consistent. I think you should have questioned his motives before insta-reverting them. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:37, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mech-Tech page ==

The only reason it was "Just a list copied from the DOTM page" is because he HADN'T FINISHED THE PAGE YET --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:08, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
:It shouldn't be a list, it should be a description of the gimmick, like our [[Automorph Technology]] and [[Mech Alive]] pages, that's why it's tagged, it's even explained in the tag. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:14, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

== Fusion Cannon ==

You have undone my edit of Movie Megatron's fusion cannon twice now and I am wondering why? In the 2007 movie at 1:57:13 you can clearly see Megatron shoot Jazz with his fusion cannon from his RIGHT arm. I just watched it, so I know I am correct. If you have a good reason for undoing my edits, let me know, but until then I am just going to keep changing it back. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 02:43, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
:You didn't watch well enough. That's '''Jazz''' shooting Megatron, not the other way around. By contrast, Megatron's fusion cannon is clearly in his left arm, as you see Prime shoot him off balance before he fires, but he turns around, cannon clearly on his left arm, re-aims and shoots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:05, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Sorry but you didn't watch well enough. '''Jazz''' does fire first, then '''Megatron''' fires and Jazz goes flying. I haven't watched the battle with Optimus recently, so it may be that Megatron also has a fusion cannon in his left arm as well and can combine both to make them more powerful. --[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 10:00, 25 April 2011 (EDT)
Maybe it's a different weapons system, but do you have any evidence to back that up? I'm assuming you have finally accepted that Megatron does shoot Jazz with his right arm and you watched the entire scene. The blast was blue like the blast from the combined fusion cannon and his fusion cannon from ROTF ,and it was very powerful, as it sent Jazz flying much in the same way as it did to Optimus in ROTF. Also, he lost his left arm at the end of the first movie, and if it were solely stored in his left arm, it would not have been present in ROTF. It's probably pretty safe to assume that "the Little One," who provided Megatron with parts did not possess a fusion cannon and the "Doctor" did not build a completely new one. IF you can come up with a better arguement than that or provide some official source material, I'll leave it alone, but if you keep using an ambiguous arguement I'll just keep editing the article.
:Do you have any evidence that it '''is''' his fusion cannon? A single blast from said cannon sent Optimus Prime, OPTIMUS PRIME, flying over a full city block into a building, while Jazz barely flew a few feet. But hey, for added evidence, [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h56m39s185.png this] does not look like either [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h57m49s50.png this] or [http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t285/Detour84/TF/vlcsnap-2011-04-26-01h58m11s5.png this]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:01, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
No I don't have any evidence that it is a fusion cannon, but I think there is a better argument for it being a fusion cannon than not, as I stated above. And yes Jazz did only fly a few feet, but maybe that's because the fusion cannon was not at full power because it was not combined with Megatron's left arm. As for the pictures, they don't look anything like the crab claw fusion cannon, yet that is still a fusion cannon. I'm not trying to jerk you around; this is just how I see it and a lot of this is just opinion because Hasbro or whoever hasn't officially detailed anything. Maybe we could ask someone else who edits this Wiki for their opinion on it and just go with that?
:That doesn't work, because as my screenshots show, the fusion cannon is ''entirely part of Megatron's left arm''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:23, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
How does that explain how his fusion cannon moved from his left arm to his right arm? I don't see the problem with what I wrote, because it leaves the statement you wrote about the fusion cannon being stored in the left arm and it touches on the blast that was fired at Jazz with his right arm. It says nowhere that it '''is''' definitely a fusion cannon. All I wanted to write was that there is a possiblility that his right arm is a fusion cannon, or at least part of a whole. The scene with Jazz is up for interpretation, but I think it should be added so others who read this article can decide for themselves. As far as getting someone else's opinion, you will have to get someone to help with that. I don't know how to ask any of the main editors and I assume you probably do. Just have them comment in this section with an opinion on it.--[[User:BATTOUSAI XD|BATTOUSAI XD]] 1:39, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

==why didnt you jsut fixed it?==
instead of removing all i wrote on the movie Starscream page, why didnt you just Fixed my typos and mistakes? {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Because I couldn't even understand what it was you were trying to say. Your poor English goes far beyond simple spelling errors. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:46, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
::Okay, in that case, lets keep a Character Stub template (which i already did) {{unsigned|Eagc7}}

== Dude, STOP. NOW. ==

Abra cannot learn Hypnosis. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 23:19, 28 April 2011 (EDT)
: Seriously, you are now the wiki's worst vandal. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:31, 28 April 2011 (EDT)

== The Autobot Hero ==

I had thought of reverting his edit to Fire on the Mountain the same as you did, but decided against it as the internal link was a redlink. Are we planning on having an [[Andes Mountains]] page? If not, he actually did the right thing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:13, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:Well, [[Peru]] wasn't a redlink. Standard seems to be that locations where stuff happens in fiction deserve wiki articles. The Andes mountains do come up in both Fire in the Mountain and the Japanese PS2 Transformers game, so the location deserves a proper TFWiki article, IMO. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:17, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
::And the Kid Stuff audiobooks have the Andes partially destroyed in "Storms of Destruction". [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:48, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Thanks for that! Added the link to it too. I'd love to make a page for it (being the huge Mysterious Cities of Gold nerd that I am) but since I don't have access to any of the material they show up in, there isn't much I can do. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:56, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

==Editing==
I read the "Help:Editing" page.-[[User:Dirgeor|Dirgeor]] 20:02, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

== Crowbar ==
I'm quite not sure why you removed my photo of Crowbar. Can you please tell me?
:Because it's a horrible shot that barely shows Crowbar at all, if that's even him. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:05, 25 June 2011 (EDT)
It is him, you can clearly see Crankcase in another shot. I can understand that the shot wasn't great, but it's better than an inaccurate representation of him in Cyberverse form.

== Crisscross "Error" ==

Rather than risk a revert war, I'll simply discuss the matter here first.

If the package was delivered to the garage while Arcee was away for some unknown length of time, why should she question its origin? I still say someone from MECH could have broken into the garage, delivered the package, and locked up on their way out, thus accounting for the package's presence. (Yes, it's something of an error not to explain it in-story, but I think that's at least a feasible explanation.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:05, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: That's how I read the sequence of events. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
: You make some good points. But after even two watchings the whole thing still felt weird. When you stop and think about it, only Jack or June could've taken care of the package... If Arcee assumes June has... she'd know Arcee wasn't in the garage. So... why's she so casual about the package? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:06, 29 June 2011 (EDT)
:: My postman leaves packages in my garage all the time if I'm not there to take delivery, honestly. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:01, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Editing ==
Can we please discuss our debates before filing pages for deletion? I have a strong argument. Please just listen to me.
-[[User:PurpleCyclops|Caleb]]
:No. You don't. Preliminary names are just that, '''preliminary'''. We're not calling Mirage "Rush", and the same applies to Crowbar and Hatchet. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:18, 3 July 2011 (EDT)
Rush isn't the final name for Mirage. Hatchet is a typhoon fighter jet. Crowbar is a Carbon Motors E7 Police car. The trio in the film are suburbans. This is not the case of renaming them. This is the case of '''different character'''.
:No, this is the case of '''different altmodes'''. Do we consider Sideways anyone but Sideways? Because his toy sure as hell wasn't a screen-accurate Audi, and didn't even use the proper color scheme. You're being utterly ridiculous. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:38, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

I was saying that the characters were most likely different since they hadn't the right altmode or altmode size, since Hatchet would be much too big to be a suburban, if he was a jet, and Crowbar would be too small if he was a police car. Sorry bout everything though, I agree, my argument '''is''' ridiculous.

== Joke ==
By reference, I meant a reference to something. A joke. Jokes aren't meant to be useful. And this wiki is full of them. One on almost every image. Which isn't very useful, when they could have a informative caption. But that's one of my favorite things about this wiki. It's humor. Once again, I find you reverting anything I post. Can't I just add a simple joke that can appeal to some people, without attracting the attention of you?
:It's humor, yes, but it's still a wiki. Signal to noise ratio is the key here, and smashing a bad joke about train delays in the first sentence of Astrotrain's bio isn't the way to go about it. Signal to noise, the wiki must be funny but also informative. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:21, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

You do have a point. I agree it is still a wiki, and it's not that informative. However you kind of missed the joke. A popular quote in a T.V. show about trains from my childhood was when the person would scold the train, he would say "you've caused confusion and delay". Nothing to do with train delays.

== Spam ==

Does [[User talk:Dynamic|THIS]] count as Spam?--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
:Not really. Spam is more people and/or bots trying to scam people with advertisements. Dynamic's talk page doesn't fall into that. I'm not sure what he's trying to do, either he's trying to share an easter egg with the wiki or he's trying to spark a discussion, either way it's not really spam. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:16, 29 July 2011 (EDT)
== Volume Number ==
Woops, sorry about that. After that anon troll was just going around changing tiny things on the year pages, I ended up with a bit of an itchy trigger finger. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:13, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

== Dave Fennoy Picture ==

Hi There. Could you find a picture of [[Dave Fennoy]] for his page?

== Doctor Arkeville in sound and furry ==

When the Hot Dog Bot rebels the man he is serving has the distinct rounded triangle jaw and mad scientist like hair style of G1 villain Doctor Arkeville. can you tell me anouther human character in either show has one of these characteristics yet he has both of them, it is pretty clear he is a homage to the classic decepticon allied human please stop reverting this
:Yeah, and I suppose Doc Brown is a Doctor Arkeville homage too? It's very common for old men to their hair up top, have their hair lose color and get a longer jaw. Just because one incidental character sported those features doesn't automatically mean HOMAGE. Please stop grasping at straws. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:37, 10 October 2011 (EDT)

:Doc Brown did not have a triangular rounded jaw and as for the hair several scientist in fiction have it as homage to Albert Einstein. However I am not aware of any other transformers characters that this hair style. Plus I have never seen or heard of anyone getting a longer jaw when they got older. It is not grasping at straws as much as seeing a comparison somebody made between the two and adding it here.
::No metal hat & hand = No Arkeville. --Thy2k, not logged in

== Found cosmos art from official artist! ==

I found some art of cosmy! should we replace the main page now? its from the official artist's deviantart page, sides we got most of the moving violations character photos from devianart too. for cosmos art see link http://tehkoreandude.deviantart.com/gallery/24312266#/d3lnp2f --User:Jazzerprime
:That's not official Transformers art. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:31, 11 October 2011 (EDT)

== Tell me ==

Do you actually look at people's edits before you revert them? --[[User:TheOnlyChoice|TheOnlyChoice]] 04:13, 16 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. And you only had two edits the last one a month ago, before suddenly declaring yourself the lord of what's sucky or not. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:22, 16 October 2011 (EDT)

== It's true. ==

If they hadn't fallen in because of the surge, five seconds later, it would have turned them into transmetals and the lava wouldn't have had any more effect than a hot bath. If that doesn't describe irony, nothing does. [[Special:Contributions/70.77.36.81|70.77.36.81]] 20:40, 30 October 2011 (EDT)
:I don't recall lava immunity being a Transmetal power. Just because Tarantulas survived it doesn't mean everyone else can, nor do it indicate that survival was directly due to Transmetalness. Also, noting it purely out of "irony" is like saying it's ironic Ironhide's shuttle was on an Energon run because if they weren't low on Energon they would've survived the Decepticon attack. It's silly and pointless. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:44, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

== Can you Remove ==
Can you remove "Luis Daniel Ramírez" page, since it seems this guy Arturo Castañeda is going to be Jack Darby voice in the spanish dub of Prime {{unsigned|Eagc7}}
:Sorry, I'm not a mod or an admin here so I don't have the power to do this. I'll tag it for deletion, though, if that help. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:28, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

== image tags ==

There are always stupid tags to images on a number of pages could you please stop putting these corny and rediculous tags. {{unsigned|108.66.204.65}}
:If by "tags" you mean the captions, then I recommend you familiarize yourself with [[Transformers Wiki:Caption|the wiki's policies regarding captions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:56, 10 November 2011 (EST)

== Arcee ==
Thank you very much for restoring that caption. Much appreciated. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 03:34, 26 November 2011 (EST)

== "Double Bruticus" ==

And the reason to remove the comment was...?
: The wiki in general does not cover unofficial fancreations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 February 2012 (EST)

I guessing you think you have everything in Transformers prime, right?

== Steeljaw/Red Alert link ==

Huh. Didn't even see that link between the two. Thanks. Should the minor edit to [[Final Transformations]] be reverted to the Red Alert article as a whole, or keep the link to Red Alert's G2 (and only Marvel) appearance?
[[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 22:57, 29 February 2012 (EST)
:No, linking it to the G2 section was a good idea, since it refers to that specific event. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:09, 29 February 2012 (EST)
::Heh. Apologies about that. My connection is stuttering at the moment. [[User:Pakopako|Pakopako]] 00:36, 1 March 2012 (EST)

==Why do you delete my...?==
excuse me why do you delete my dreadwing image?
:Because it already existed on the wiki in its proper place. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

why have you deleted my leadfoot foto?[[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Because it has no reason to be in the Notes section. The Notes section is not a place to arbitrarily put whatever image tickles your fancy. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:39, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

the other user has told me to put the image there [[user:Shockwave1704]]
:Andrusi said '''maybe''' if you followed proper [[Transformers Wiki:Images|image guidelines]] that it ''might'' be able to go in the Notes section, not that you could just put it in the Notes section. And even then, as he himself admits on the Leadfoot page, he was wrong on that count. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:51, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

so i can't add this image nowhere[[user:Shockwave1704]]

are you french? --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:18, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
: No, he's Canadian.....--[[Special:Contributions/81.164.215.61|81.164.215.61]] 12:19, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

ah ok, because there are some sentences in the france article that could be offensive --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 12:31, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

In World War II, France surrendered in the face of foreign invasion, leaving the population to suffer under a genocidal dictatorship for four years. This is seen as a source of hilarious jokes by some other nations.
[[User:Shockwave1704]]
:I don't really see how that's offensive. If anything, it reflects poorly on the aforementionned "other nations". =p --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:50, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::yes, but in this article French army = cowards--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:01, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::No, the article says that people from other nations like to make jokes about the French being cowards. That is not the same thing as saying that the French are cowards. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:06, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
::::i disagree with you, but if you think so...--[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 15:26, 14 March 2012 (EDT)
:::::I really think this is a symptom of your level of English comprehension. To a native English speaker, the paragraph you quoted says exactly what I said it does. It is hard enough working in a language that you do not speak fluently, dealing with all of the humor on this site will make it even harder on you as many of the jokes simply won't translate. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:21, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

in my opinion humor is a symbol for every country. Italian people have got their humor, French people have got their humor, English people have got their humor. So it's possible that Italian people think your humorism is a little offensive. --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 08:57, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:No, it's your tenuous grasp on English that's making you miss the joke. Now drop it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:12, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

what? no, in my opinion you don't appreciate our humor because we are very different. I don't want to criticize you, but everyone can think how he wants --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:25, 15 March 2012 (EDT)
:I haven't seen any instances of your humor anywhere. It's just clear you don't even ''get'' the damn joke. So drop the subject. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:33, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Bah --[[User:Shockwave1704|Shockwave1704]] 10:37, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

== Jokerberg ==

I love your Jokerberg statement when you edited [[Daran Norris]].--[[User:Ultra-Humanite|Humanite]] 22:18, 20 March 2012 (EDT)
:Thank you! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:15, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for fixing the help page. XD [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 00:47, 21 March 2012 (EDT)

== "Useless padding" ==

I sort of chuckled when I saw this line from you, good on you for having a sense of humour about it. :)
I couldn't help but notice, friend, that about a third of the information on this entire Wiki is "useless padding", meaningless trivia put there for no reason other than to impart interesting information to the reader. And of the remaining information, about a third of ''that'' is flat-out jokes inserted simply to make people laugh. Looking over the rest of that one page, off the top of my head, Toronto being the biggest city in Canada has absolutely nothing to do with Transformers, and the relationship between 'there are no Target stores in Canada' and Transformers is so tangential that it's just about on the same level. So I ask you, why did you ''really'' remove that information from the page? Really, if I don't know, I won't be able to avoid the mistake in the future. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 22:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

== Periods and Spaces ==

Oh, it's no trouble, friend. I just copy the text of the page from the edit window into notepad and then find-and-replace ". " with ". " to fix it up. Then I just copy it back over and go on with my regular correction of spelling errors and grammar checking. It's easy, and it's my pleasure to improve the quality of the Wiki. :-)
Also, some interesting reading for you to back up my position: http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 23:43, 9 May 2012 (EDT)
:You're missing the point. It DOESN'T improve the quality of the wiki because it ISN'T WRONG. The link you provided is to an OPINION PIECE. It is the policy of this wiki that we don't care whether you use one space or two after a period and that there is no need to change one for the other. It's kind of like how we do not have a preference between US and UK spellings. Also, "friend", you are coming off rather smarmy and condescending here. That is not likely to get many people to back your position.--

== Subscription service figures ==

I had put those on the 2012 listing because that is what the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] page said. Should we change that page? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:02, 10 May 2012 (EDT)

== Faceless tags ==
I'm not the one removing them. [[Special:Contributions/TFMAN|TFMAN]] is. I just remove what he puts there in place of them. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:40, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
:Use the Undo button, that way you undo all the things he's changed, rather than just removing what he's added without putting back what he's removed. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:41, 18 May 2012 (EDT)
::Alright, will do. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:43, 18 May 2012 (EDT)

== Vocab ==

I have a pretty good vocabulary. Plus the captions were for a lot stuff I remember growing up as a kid. Good Times Huh? The Picture for [[Tim Curry]]'s page was just Wow. I have never seen that movie before.[[User:SirSpoonwave|SirSpoonwave]] 02:16, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

== Allspark Addendum ==

Thanks for help on the SG Animated pages. I'm used to making minor edits, and I don't have much experience on templates besides the bunny rabbit page. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.31.203|184.56.31.203]] 19:01, 31 May 2012 (EDT))

==IDW==
If i'm doing such a bad job, why don't you do those articles then? I've been at it forever, trying to edit that thing. Ed
: It would help if your additions were about the characters the article is about. Most of your "How Ratchet Got His Hands Back" additions to First Aid's page were about Ratchet! And it didn't mention at all that First Aid was promoted to Chief Medical Officer, which is the most important thing that happened to First Aid in that issue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:06, 4 June 2012 (EDT)

== Animated toy/merchandise section ==

I added "Fast food kids meal toys" subsections to [[Megatron (Animated)]] and [[Starscream (Animated)]] pages. With that, the pages got the same "Toys" layout of [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Optimus Prime (Animated)]] and [[Bumblebee (Animated)]], with an Subsection for each "toyline". If the subsection is wrong, it need to be removed from OP and BB pages. If the subsection is OK, why you removed they from Megatron and Starscream page?

And why you put the toys as available "only in Mexico and Venezuela"? I am in Brazil and have to eat some McDonalds Happy Meal to have my toys. Probably the toy was available in all Latin America (but this is a guess, for sure it was available in Brazil).
:The subsections are present on Bumblebee and Prime's pages because they have a '''huge''' amount of toys and merchandise to their name, which requires extra subsections. By contrast, Megatron and Starscream's numbers are more manageable, hence why the fast food premiums aren't categorized the same way. You'll notice Megs and Screams don't have subsections for Activators, Deluxe, Voyager, etc. either.
:As for why I only said Mexico and Venezuela, that's because that's all that's listed on the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:39, 9 June 2012 (EDT)
::Makes sense, but Starscream have the "Universe (2008)" subsection. Don't know why the "Fast food" subsection hurts, but will not re-add it, I was only trying to make the toy sections of each character more or less with the same layout/design. Before I waste my time, I have a lot of Merchandise itens to add for Megatron and Starscream (more for Megatron than for Starscream), it's OK to create an Merchandise section? I'll edit the [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions]] to be more accurate and include Brazil there. --[[User:Sharpfinger|Sharpfinger]] 20:48, 9 June 2012 (EDT)

==Shattered Expectations reference in Triage==
It's a rather obvious nod to it. If that's not considered a reference than you might as well not consider the "Beast Machines" line in TMI as a reference. {{unsigned|108.11.36.231}}
:Shattering expectations is a commonly used term, hence why it was fan-applied to Shattered Expectations proper. It's not a reference. Stop saying it is. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:34, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::If by "fan-applied" you man "the writers of the comic actually named it that", sure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:49, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::But it's almost completely out of place. That's like removing the thing about Hardshell saying "yes" in Toxicity by that logic.
:::It's not out of place, he just shattered Soundwave's visor, and that's the joke. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:09, 10 June 2012 (EDT)

== how to act towards others ==

I think for someone who acts like they own the wiki you should think about how you talk to poeple. As a member of the wiki you should show a little respect towards your fellow members start deleing peoples posts with out saying why and then starting personal attacks is a big no you make yourself look bad and the wiki.[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 13:45, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
:I started no personal attacks. You, on the other hand, called me an a-hole. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:55, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
I think he's just suggesting stuff, right? (lobythelegend 13:49, 22 June 2012 (EDT))

:I know you're angry, but why is that it seems that you're always in a bad mood to everyone who messes up in the Wiki? lobythelegend 13:46, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

== Accents ==

Ah, I had forgotten that. May I suggest this, then:
:The ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' film in 2007 takes the alternate tac that Optimus Prime and his troops learned Earth languages — including English ''and'' Mandarin Chinese, according to the novelization — by studying the [[Internet]]; presumably, each Autobot chose the accent that best fit their natural voice. In contrast, the Decepticons generally use the Cybertronian language. This distinction is lost in the sequels, in which all Autobots and Decepticons speak English even when, canonically, they have had no prior contact with the language.
'cause we really need to get rid of the paragraph that is there now.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 15:01, 29 August 2012 (EDT)

What do you have against what I posted about Octane's cameo in 'The Ultimate Weapon'?

== PCCs ==

According to Hydra Choppmaster and Rollermaster ARE Blazemaster and Straxus. Only the minions/Targetmaster little guys are new characters. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 13:19, 24 September 2012 (EDT)

== Why? ==

What is your problem? I added a joke to a picture of Slipstream that didn't have a joke. Or do you just feel the need to undo everything I do? {{unsigned|AutobotKickshift}}
:Until you contribute something, you should just leave captions alone. And sign your posts. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 18:21, 4 October 2012 (EDT)

== New ==

Hello. I'm New Here. Thanks for helping on [[Motoko Kumai]]. I Had to find some sources to fix the page. Not my Best. But I'll be careful. Slow Connection though.

Thanks Agian![[User:Energizer|Energizer]] 03:27, 14 December 2012 (EST)

== Computer Problems ==

The reason why my images are blurry is because my computer seems to have a problem with it. Apparently, my computer doesn't like my images being clear, so they just become blurry. I know, I noticed it too. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 00:41, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Still? ==

Again! How much do ''I'' have to contribute to make you understand that I have contributed enough to go to other pages
add captions or jokes on ''some'' images. Every time I go to the Articles that Need Images page I add an image and that means that I have contributed something. At least I have done something. I'm tired of being followed. I'm starting to belive you have ''not'' seen my captions.
Another thing that I would like to ask is: Why did you say that I could use some cleanup with the Bot Shots Battle Game! page. What's wrong with it? Does it need any more information? The last thing I would want is the page or my captions (or both) being deleted by anyone. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 11:49, 29 March 2013 (EDT)
:Thing is, all your images end up being deleted for being [[Template:Badimage|of poor quality]]. Whatever paint program you're using, try changing to something like [http://www.gimp.org GIMP] - using MS Paint or whatever you're doing is doomed to fail. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 12:28, 29 March 2013 (EDT)

== Once Again! ==

My image of Sky Garry has been deleted! This is the sixth time my image has been delted! It didn't even have bad quality! I'm starting to think that you want me to contribute on this wiki, because in seconds [[Sideways (RID)|someone]] has to delete something that I do. [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 17:31, 15 April 2013 (EDT)

== Blatant and false information ==

To detour....

Who Are you and what blatant and false information as I been posting on bloody web?

Signed Assassinator
:You added information to Arcee (Movie) and Sideswipe (Movie) indicating that they were close allies and altered a statement about Arcee blaming herself for Bumblebee's injuries to say she blamed herself for Sideswipe's injuries. Which fiction is that from? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:41, 18 April 2013 (EDT)

== The Abominus Stragglers ==

I went ahead and looked for [[Blight_(Prime)]], [[Windrazor_(Prime)]], and [[Rippersnapper_(Prime)]] and found them. One question though... do we wait until they're available in the USA/UK, or is it okay that they're only available in Taiwan? [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 22:07, 31 May 2013 (EDT)

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{{welcome}}

If you need help creating new pages, please read the help pages, linked to on the sidebar. We'd rather have no page than an incomplete page with no formatting, and other people aren't necessarily going to want to spend time clearing up after you. In future, a good tip when making new pages is to copy coding from a similar page that already exists, so you know what sections, templates and formatting is needed. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 12:25, 14 May 2013 (EDT)

== Transformers.com ==

Transformers.com is not a source for product release. It's Hasbro's official Transformers website, and features a list of older, current and upcoming product, but just because it's listed on their site does not mean the product is out at retail yet. In fact, clicking on "Where To Buy" for Windrazor, Blight and co, it explicitly says "This item doesn't appear to be available online". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:31, 30 May 2013 (EDT)
:I just want to say that even though he isn't available online, when I use Transformer.com's where to buy feature, it tells me 20 nearby locations where I can get any of the "unreleased" pieces of Abominus. However, I will not change any of the pages again until I have actually gone to one of those locations and confirmed that they are available for purchase. And, just to clarify, I won't change them if they aren't available for purchase.[[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 20:02, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

Windrazor (Prime)

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:''Windrazor is a [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[File:WindrazorBH-wallpaper.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

Devoid of most emotion and ambivalent to the pain of others, '''Windrazor''' seeks only the destruction of others. He is merely average in intelligence and skill, performing well only in feats of strength and endurance.

==Games==
==="Hunt the Beasts" online game===

[[File:HunttheBeasts-Windrazor.jpg|left|thumb|300px|]]

Windrazor was one of several Predacons who broke free of Shockwave's lab, causing the Decepticon scientist to flee. Information on him could be found via the lab's numerous data terminals, and a video of him being subjected to Shockwave's experiments could be uncovered. {{storylink|Hunt the Beasts}}

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==Toys==
===Beast Hunters===
[[Image:BHtoy-Windrazor.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Windrazor''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2013)
**''Accessories'': Tornado Bow

:Part of the third wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime: Beast Hunters]]'' [[Cyberverse]] Legion Class toys, Windrazor transforms into a bird-like dragon creature, and comes with a "Tornado Bow." His robot mode hands can hold the weapon via the latter's multiple [[C joint|3mm post]]s, and he and the weapon feature numerous 3mm mounting points. Though it is not called out anywhere on the single Legion release, Windrazor combines with four other Cyberverse Predacons to form [[Abominus (Prime)|Abominus]].

==Notes==
*Windrazor is, of course, an homage to [[Generation 1]] [[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]]. Should he look out for [[Buzzsaw (FOC)|Buzzsaw]]?
*Windrazor was the only Terrorcon not to receive a card in Transformers Legends.
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Rippersnapper (Prime)

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Combaticons4ever: He's availible on Transformers.com

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:''Rippersnapper is a [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
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The savage '''Rippersnapper''' has two weapons at his disposal, the first being his harsh sarcasm, and the second being his Electrocharge Bow with which he can down an enemy in a single shot. He and several of his fellow Predacons combine to form [[Abominus (Prime)|Abominus]].

==Toys==
===Beast Hunters===
*'''Predacon Rippersnapper''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2013)
**''Accessories'': Electrocharge Bow

:Part of the third wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime: Beast Hunters]]'' [[Cyberverse]] Legion Class toys, Rippersnapper transforms into a Dino-Fish creature, and comes with an "Electrocharge Bow." His robot mode hands can hold the weapon via the latter's multiple [[C joint|3mm post]]s, and he and the weapon feature numerous 3mm mounting points. Though it is not called out anywhere on the single Legion release, Rippersnapper combines with four other Cyberverse Predacons to form [[Abominus (Prime)|Abominus]].

==Notes==

*Of the five components of Abominus, Rippersnapper and [[Hun-Gurrr (Prime)|Hun-Gurrr]] are the only ones to share their names with their ''[[Generation 1]]'' equivalents.

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