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<p>Crossblades: /* Drone types */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|vehicon}}<br /> {{disambig3|Vehicon}}<br /> [[Image:Vehicon symbol.png|right|300px|thumb|Mindless. Obedient. Radioactive.]]<br /> <br /> The '''Vehicons''' are [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s personal army, a legion of military Transformers that allowed him to conquer planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and protect his one-robot empire from all threats. They pack lots of firepower and travel and attack ''en masse''.<br /> <br /> The overwhelming majority of Vehicons are unliving drones with no innate sentience or [[spark]]. Each Vehicon drone is usually controlled either directly by Megatron, or by a single sentient [[Vehicon general]] of the same (or similar) design. After the loss of [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] and [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]], their respective drones are apparently controlled by other generals.<br /> <br /> Vehicon drones are generally blindly obedient, with no sense of self-preservation. On rare occasions, various drones have appeared to use emotive body language, [[In Darkest Knight|shaking in apparent fear]] or [[Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral|pleading (wordlessly) not to be shot]]. On one occasion a [[Tank Drone]] was seen to [[The Weak Component|vocalize with Tankor's voice]].<br /> <br /> ==Drone types==<br /> *[[Aero Drone]]s, led by [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]<br /> *[[Copter Drone]]s, led by [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]<br /> *[[Heavy Artillery Drone]]s, led by [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]<br /> *[[Vehicon Mole|Mole Drones]]<br /> *[[Motorcycle Drone]]s, led by [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]<br /> *[[Tank Drone]]s, led by [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]]<br /> *[[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal drones]], led by [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]]<br /> * [[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] drones<br /> * Jet drones, led by [[Spy Streak]]<br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] <br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Quake (G1)|Quake]]<br /> * Chase drones, modeled after [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====<br /> [[Image:Vehicons Fires of The Past.JPG|left|200px|thumb|This time, Tron isn't taking any prisoners!]]<br /> The Vehicons first appeared on Cybertron in the wake of the virus that devastated the planet's population. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}} Megatron created factories to recycle the discarded body shells of captured Transformers into more Vehicons; {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}} in this way, his army fed on its own success. Soon the planet was cleared of all Transformers except for Vehicons, who then patrolled its empty streets and skies.<br /> <br /> The drones attacked Optimus Primal's crew of Maximals when they crash-landed on the conquered planet, disabling them with gas canisters containing a [[transformation virus]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent}} and continued to harass them in the wake of the Maximals' reformatting. {{storylink|The Reformatting}} When this failed to destroy the techorganic Maximals, Megatron commissioned his first three Vehicon generals to oppose his old foes. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}}<br /> <br /> Even the three generals would ultimately prove ineffective against the Maximals. Tankor eventually betrayed Megatron and was destroyed. {{storylink|End of the Line}} Jetstorm was reformatted by the Maximals, and reverted to his original Silverbolt persona. {{storylink|In Darkest Knight}} Thrust, by contrast, remained loyal to the end.<br /> <br /> With his initial plan having met with failure, Megatron summoned up two more generals, and two new drone types as well. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike}} They did well, but Cheetor didn't like them so he shot 'em into space. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall}}<br /> <br /> It is not known what became of the Vehicon drones after the war against Megatron ended; however, it is not unreasonable to guess that they were reformatted into technorganic form along with the planet Cybertron itself, providing bodies for the newly-liberated sparks of Cybertron's population. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}<br /> <br /> ====3H comics====<br /> [[File:Cryotekcyclonusseries.jpg|upright=2.8|thumb]]<br /> <br /> Centuries after the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] was caught up in the Predacon [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s attack on all Cybertron. Despite Megatron's attempts to implant his spark within a Vehicon body, Cyclonus retained his own mind and managed to escape with the desire to restore the glorious Decepticon empire. Cyclonus had already been seduced by [[Cryotek (Universe)|Cryotek]]'s ambitions when he joined the [[Wrecker]]s in an attack where a horde of Vehicon drones, led by three all-new Generals, were unable to stop them from stealing an Autobot shuttle and blowing up the spaceport. {{storylink|Departure}}<br /> <br /> [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] attacked [[Primal Prime]]'s newly-arrived team of Maximals. He plunged [[Apelinq (BM)|Apelinq]] into the same transwarp portal that the team had come through. He was destroyed in transit. {{storylink|Apelinq's War Journals}}<br /> <br /> ====Waspscream continuity====<br /> In [[Primax 208.06 Zeta]], Inferno was captured alongside Scorponok and shipped back to Cybertron aboard a stolen shuttle from the ''Ark''. By the time that they reached Cybertron, however, they realized that Megatron had broken free and already taken over the planet. Megatron offered his two former lackeys a chance to serve him again, and Inferno, overjoyed at the prospect of aiding his queen, accepted. With a new [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] body, he became a [[Vehicon general]] in command of [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]]s. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} This upgrade removed most of his madness, but not his loyalty to his beloved queen. After [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] killed Megatron and seized control of Cybertron, Inferno swore revenge and defected, joining up with Waspscream's [[technorganic]] Predacons. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} Along with Obisidan and his universe's incarnation of [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], Inferno was abducted by [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|#Universe (2003)|BotCon 2006 Inferno toy bio}} Try as Unicron might, Inferno couldn't be broken, seeking only to destroy the two traitors to his colony, and was thus imprisoned in the [[Cauldron]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} After he was liberated by Optimus Primal, he joined the [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]] in the [[Universe War]], and wound up fighting alongside a similarly redeemed [[Inferno (Universe)|alternate-universe incarnation of himself]]. {{storylink|#Universe (2003)|BotCon 2006 Inferno toy bio}}<br /> <br /> ===2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===<br /> After [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] took the credit for capturing [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]] exclaimed &quot;What are we? Vehicon drones?&quot; {{storylink|Sideburn's Obsession}}<br /> <br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Just like in many [[Primax]] realities, a Spark War ensued in the future of [[Viron 102.0 Beta]], caused by a quantum orphan [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] from [[Primax 496.22 Alpha]] and his army of Vehicons. [[Mirage (RID)|Mirage]] was one of the victims of this war. However, he used the [[Genetronic Translink System]] to control a Vehicon body even while his spark was in enemy hands. After the defeat of Megatron, Mirage traveled back in time to guide the [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]] against [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''Beast Machines''===<br /> [[Image:BM Blastcharge-toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Blastcharge]]<br /> [[Image:BM ultra Jetstorm toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Ultra Jetstorm]]<br /> [[Image:BM-toy Scavenger.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scavenger]]<br /> * '''Vehicons''' (1999-2000)<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] - Deluxe and Ultra<br /> ***[[Aero Drone|Sonic Attack Jet]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] - Basic<br /> **[[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] - Basic<br /> **[[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] - Basic<br /> **[[Spy Streak]] - Basic<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] - Mega<br /> ***[[Tank Drone]] - Basic<br /> **[[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] - Deluxe<br /> ***[[Motorcycle Drone]] - Basic<br /> <br /> :The Vehicons made up fully one half of the [[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|''Beast Machines'' toyline]]. They were the first new fully-vehicular Transformer toys since the end of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' in 1995, and the first to explore a Cybertronian aesthetic since Generation 1. Their vehicle forms are futuristic and military-themed. Most have a vehicle mode &quot;head&quot; analogue, allowing their vehicle form to look around. As robots, they sport unusually alien stylings and proportions. Some also sport unusual forms of locomotion, including legless hover modes and unicycle wheel bases. Most have a [[spark crystal]] located somewhere on their body.<br /> <br /> {{bigquote|These guys hover, walk, roll, crawl... the Vehicons are all about big guns, big firepower.|Hasbro rep at [[BotCon 1999]], on the upcoming Vehicon toys}}<br /> <br /> ===''Expanded Universe''===<br /> [[File:ExpandedUniversetoy-Cyclonus.jpg|150px|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cyclonus''' (Ultra, 2002)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 missiles, 2 drone-missiles<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers: Expanded Universe|Expanded Universe]]'' Cyclonus is a redeco of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Jetstorm (BM)#Toys|Ultra Jetstorm]], replacing blue with lavender, purple and gray, and the yellows with red. His [[spark]] crystal was [[tampograph]]ed with a Decepticon sigil. He transforms into a Cybertronic fighter jet. His jet mode cockpit/neck is geared up with the pop-up gun turret on his back so that both turn in the same direction when moved. This turret has a light-up feature plus two spring-loaded missiles. Cyclonus has both a &quot;normal&quot; bipedal robot mode and a &quot;flight robot mode&quot; with pop-out thruster engines.<br /> <br /> : Cyclonus was available exclusively at [[BotCon 2002]].<br /> <br /> ===''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)===<br /> * '''Nightcruz / Mirage GT / Scavenger''' (Mega-level 3-pack, 2002)<br /> [[File:RID-toy MirageGT.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> : A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' Vehicon [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]], Mirage GT transforms into a Cybertronic dragster similar in shape to an F-1 racer. In both modes he has pair of pressure-launch tailpipe-missiles; in car mode they attach to his spoiler, while in robot mode one as affixed to each arm. The small blaster-weapon attached to his head can also be removed and used as a hand-held weapon. He was available only in a 3-pack with [[Nightcruz (RID)|Nightcruz]] and [[Scavenger (RID)|Scavenger]].<br /> <br /> : This set was released in Japan as a [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us|ToysЯUs]] [[exclusive]] &quot;[[USA Edition]]&quot; set on [[July 31]], 2002.<br /> <br /> : This mold was planned for use as a convention-[[exclusive]] version of [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]], which was ultimately never made.<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2003)===<br /> [[File:Universe2003toy-TankorObsidian.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> * '''Decepticons''' (2003-2005)<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Nemesis Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] &amp; [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] two-pack<br /> <br /> :A few ''Beast Machines'' Vehicon molds were repainted for the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line. However, they were labeled as [[Decepticon]]s instead of Vehicons.<br /> <br /> {{anchor|BC06}}<br /> [[File:Universe2003toy-InfernoBotCon.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|&quot;Inferno, Burninate!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Inferno''' (Scout-class, 2006)<br /> **''Accessories'': Blade, key<br /> <br /> :This [[redeco]] of [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]] was only available in the customization class at [[BotCon 2006]], along with [[Rumble (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)|Rumble]]. Parts were provided, but the individuals taking the class had to assemble and paint the toy themselves. For those who wish to reproduce Inferno at home, the following Testors paint colors were used: Gin Green, Bright Blue, Camouflage Gray, Flat White, Cobalt Blue, Deep Pearlescent Purple, Medium Gray, Armored Steel, and Flat Black.<br /> <br /> : Inferno transforms into a four-legged &quot;spider tank&quot; with top-mounted cannon. Inserting a [[Cyber Key]] into the back end of the cannon swings a removable clear-plastic sawblade-sword from the main chamber of the cannon. In robot mode, the fists can be covered with the tank mode spikes, or a &quot;pile driver&quot;. <br /> <br /> : This mold was also used to make the [[Cobybot]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Beast Machines]]<br /> [[Category:Drones]]<br /> [[Category:Factions]]<br /> [[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]<br /> [[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) subgroups]]<br /> [[Category:Vehicons| ]]</div>

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<p>Crossblades: /* Toys */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|vehicon}}<br /> {{disambig3|Vehicon}}<br /> [[Image:Vehicon symbol.png|right|300px|thumb|Mindless. Obedient. Radioactive.]]<br /> <br /> The '''Vehicons''' are [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s personal army, a legion of military Transformers that allowed him to conquer planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and protect his one-robot empire from all threats. They pack lots of firepower and travel and attack ''en masse''.<br /> <br /> The overwhelming majority of Vehicons are unliving drones with no innate sentience or [[spark]]. Each Vehicon drone is usually controlled either directly by Megatron, or by a single sentient [[Vehicon general]] of the same (or similar) design. After the loss of [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] and [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]], their respective drones are apparently controlled by other generals.<br /> <br /> Vehicon drones are generally blindly obedient, with no sense of self-preservation. On rare occasions, various drones have appeared to use emotive body language, [[In Darkest Knight|shaking in apparent fear]] or [[Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral|pleading (wordlessly) not to be shot]]. On one occasion a [[Tank Drone]] was seen to [[The Weak Component|vocalize with Tankor's voice]].<br /> <br /> ==Drone types==<br /> *[[Aero Drone]]s, led by [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]<br /> *[[Copter Drone]]s, led by [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]<br /> *[[Heavy Artillery Drone]]s, led by [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]<br /> *[[Vehicon Mole|Mole Drones]]<br /> *[[Motorcycle Drone]]s, led by [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]<br /> *[[Tank Drone]]s, led by [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]]<br /> * [[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] drones<br /> * Jet drones, led by [[Spy Streak]]<br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] <br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Quake (G1)|Quake]]<br /> * Chase drones, modeled after [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====<br /> [[Image:Vehicons Fires of The Past.JPG|left|200px|thumb|This time, Tron isn't taking any prisoners!]]<br /> The Vehicons first appeared on Cybertron in the wake of the virus that devastated the planet's population. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}} Megatron created factories to recycle the discarded body shells of captured Transformers into more Vehicons; {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}} in this way, his army fed on its own success. Soon the planet was cleared of all Transformers except for Vehicons, who then patrolled its empty streets and skies.<br /> <br /> The drones attacked Optimus Primal's crew of Maximals when they crash-landed on the conquered planet, disabling them with gas canisters containing a [[transformation virus]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent}} and continued to harass them in the wake of the Maximals' reformatting. {{storylink|The Reformatting}} When this failed to destroy the techorganic Maximals, Megatron commissioned his first three Vehicon generals to oppose his old foes. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}}<br /> <br /> Even the three generals would ultimately prove ineffective against the Maximals. Tankor eventually betrayed Megatron and was destroyed. {{storylink|End of the Line}} Jetstorm was reformatted by the Maximals, and reverted to his original Silverbolt persona. {{storylink|In Darkest Knight}} Thrust, by contrast, remained loyal to the end.<br /> <br /> With his initial plan having met with failure, Megatron summoned up two more generals, and two new drone types as well. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike}} They did well, but Cheetor didn't like them so he shot 'em into space. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall}}<br /> <br /> It is not known what became of the Vehicon drones after the war against Megatron ended; however, it is not unreasonable to guess that they were reformatted into technorganic form along with the planet Cybertron itself, providing bodies for the newly-liberated sparks of Cybertron's population. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}<br /> <br /> ====3H comics====<br /> [[File:Cryotekcyclonusseries.jpg|upright=2.8|thumb]]<br /> <br /> Centuries after the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] was caught up in the Predacon [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s attack on all Cybertron. Despite Megatron's attempts to implant his spark within a Vehicon body, Cyclonus retained his own mind and managed to escape with the desire to restore the glorious Decepticon empire. Cyclonus had already been seduced by [[Cryotek (Universe)|Cryotek]]'s ambitions when he joined the [[Wrecker]]s in an attack where a horde of Vehicon drones, led by three all-new Generals, were unable to stop them from stealing an Autobot shuttle and blowing up the spaceport. {{storylink|Departure}}<br /> <br /> [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] attacked [[Primal Prime]]'s newly-arrived team of Maximals. He plunged [[Apelinq (BM)|Apelinq]] into the same transwarp portal that the team had come through. He was destroyed in transit. {{storylink|Apelinq's War Journals}}<br /> <br /> ====Waspscream continuity====<br /> In [[Primax 208.06 Zeta]], Inferno was captured alongside Scorponok and shipped back to Cybertron aboard a stolen shuttle from the ''Ark''. By the time that they reached Cybertron, however, they realized that Megatron had broken free and already taken over the planet. Megatron offered his two former lackeys a chance to serve him again, and Inferno, overjoyed at the prospect of aiding his queen, accepted. With a new [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] body, he became a [[Vehicon general]] in command of [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]]s. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} This upgrade removed most of his madness, but not his loyalty to his beloved queen. After [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] killed Megatron and seized control of Cybertron, Inferno swore revenge and defected, joining up with Waspscream's [[technorganic]] Predacons. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} Along with Obisidan and his universe's incarnation of [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], Inferno was abducted by [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|#Universe (2003)|BotCon 2006 Inferno toy bio}} Try as Unicron might, Inferno couldn't be broken, seeking only to destroy the two traitors to his colony, and was thus imprisoned in the [[Cauldron]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} After he was liberated by Optimus Primal, he joined the [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]] in the [[Universe War]], and wound up fighting alongside a similarly redeemed [[Inferno (Universe)|alternate-universe incarnation of himself]]. {{storylink|#Universe (2003)|BotCon 2006 Inferno toy bio}}<br /> <br /> ===2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===<br /> After [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] took the credit for capturing [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]] exclaimed &quot;What are we? Vehicon drones?&quot; {{storylink|Sideburn's Obsession}}<br /> <br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Just like in many [[Primax]] realities, a Spark War ensued in the future of [[Viron 102.0 Beta]], caused by a quantum orphan [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] from [[Primax 496.22 Alpha]] and his army of Vehicons. [[Mirage (RID)|Mirage]] was one of the victims of this war. However, he used the [[Genetronic Translink System]] to control a Vehicon body even while his spark was in enemy hands. After the defeat of Megatron, Mirage traveled back in time to guide the [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]] against [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''Beast Machines''===<br /> [[Image:BM Blastcharge-toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Blastcharge]]<br /> [[Image:BM ultra Jetstorm toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Ultra Jetstorm]]<br /> [[Image:BM-toy Scavenger.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scavenger]]<br /> * '''Vehicons''' (1999-2000)<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] - Deluxe and Ultra<br /> ***[[Aero Drone|Sonic Attack Jet]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] - Basic<br /> **[[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] - Basic<br /> **[[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] - Basic<br /> **[[Spy Streak]] - Basic<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] - Mega<br /> ***[[Tank Drone]] - Basic<br /> **[[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] - Deluxe<br /> ***[[Motorcycle Drone]] - Basic<br /> <br /> :The Vehicons made up fully one half of the [[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|''Beast Machines'' toyline]]. They were the first new fully-vehicular Transformer toys since the end of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' in 1995, and the first to explore a Cybertronian aesthetic since Generation 1. Their vehicle forms are futuristic and military-themed. Most have a vehicle mode &quot;head&quot; analogue, allowing their vehicle form to look around. As robots, they sport unusually alien stylings and proportions. Some also sport unusual forms of locomotion, including legless hover modes and unicycle wheel bases. Most have a [[spark crystal]] located somewhere on their body.<br /> <br /> {{bigquote|These guys hover, walk, roll, crawl... the Vehicons are all about big guns, big firepower.|Hasbro rep at [[BotCon 1999]], on the upcoming Vehicon toys}}<br /> <br /> ===''Expanded Universe''===<br /> [[File:ExpandedUniversetoy-Cyclonus.jpg|150px|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cyclonus''' (Ultra, 2002)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 missiles, 2 drone-missiles<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers: Expanded Universe|Expanded Universe]]'' Cyclonus is a redeco of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Jetstorm (BM)#Toys|Ultra Jetstorm]], replacing blue with lavender, purple and gray, and the yellows with red. His [[spark]] crystal was [[tampograph]]ed with a Decepticon sigil. He transforms into a Cybertronic fighter jet. His jet mode cockpit/neck is geared up with the pop-up gun turret on his back so that both turn in the same direction when moved. This turret has a light-up feature plus two spring-loaded missiles. Cyclonus has both a &quot;normal&quot; bipedal robot mode and a &quot;flight robot mode&quot; with pop-out thruster engines.<br /> <br /> : Cyclonus was available exclusively at [[BotCon 2002]].<br /> <br /> ===''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)===<br /> * '''Nightcruz / Mirage GT / Scavenger''' (Mega-level 3-pack, 2002)<br /> [[File:RID-toy MirageGT.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> : A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' Vehicon [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]], Mirage GT transforms into a Cybertronic dragster similar in shape to an F-1 racer. In both modes he has pair of pressure-launch tailpipe-missiles; in car mode they attach to his spoiler, while in robot mode one as affixed to each arm. The small blaster-weapon attached to his head can also be removed and used as a hand-held weapon. He was available only in a 3-pack with [[Nightcruz (RID)|Nightcruz]] and [[Scavenger (RID)|Scavenger]].<br /> <br /> : This set was released in Japan as a [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us|ToysЯUs]] [[exclusive]] &quot;[[USA Edition]]&quot; set on [[July 31]], 2002.<br /> <br /> : This mold was planned for use as a convention-[[exclusive]] version of [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]], which was ultimately never made.<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2003)===<br /> [[File:Universe2003toy-TankorObsidian.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> * '''Decepticons''' (2003-2005)<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Nemesis Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] &amp; [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] two-pack<br /> <br /> :A few ''Beast Machines'' Vehicon molds were repainted for the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line. However, they were labeled as [[Decepticon]]s instead of Vehicons.<br /> <br /> {{anchor|BC06}}<br /> [[File:Universe2003toy-InfernoBotCon.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|&quot;Inferno, Burninate!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Inferno''' (Scout-class, 2006)<br /> **''Accessories'': Blade, key<br /> <br /> :This [[redeco]] of [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]] was only available in the customization class at [[BotCon 2006]], along with [[Rumble (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)|Rumble]]. Parts were provided, but the individuals taking the class had to assemble and paint the toy themselves. For those who wish to reproduce Inferno at home, the following Testors paint colors were used: Gin Green, Bright Blue, Camouflage Gray, Flat White, Cobalt Blue, Deep Pearlescent Purple, Medium Gray, Armored Steel, and Flat Black.<br /> <br /> : Inferno transforms into a four-legged &quot;spider tank&quot; with top-mounted cannon. Inserting a [[Cyber Key]] into the back end of the cannon swings a removable clear-plastic sawblade-sword from the main chamber of the cannon. In robot mode, the fists can be covered with the tank mode spikes, or a &quot;pile driver&quot;. <br /> <br /> : This mold was also used to make the [[Cobybot]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Beast Machines]]<br /> [[Category:Drones]]<br /> [[Category:Factions]]<br /> [[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]<br /> [[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) subgroups]]<br /> [[Category:Vehicons| ]]</div>

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<p>Crossblades: /* Toys */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|vehicon}}<br /> {{disambig3|Vehicon}}<br /> [[Image:Vehicon symbol.png|right|300px|thumb|Mindless. Obedient. Radioactive.]]<br /> <br /> The '''Vehicons''' are [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s personal army, a legion of military Transformers that allowed him to conquer planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and protect his one-robot empire from all threats. They pack lots of firepower and travel and attack ''en masse''.<br /> <br /> The overwhelming majority of Vehicons are unliving drones with no innate sentience or [[spark]]. Each Vehicon drone is usually controlled either directly by Megatron, or by a single sentient [[Vehicon general]] of the same (or similar) design. After the loss of [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] and [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]], their respective drones are apparently controlled by other generals.<br /> <br /> Vehicon drones are generally blindly obedient, with no sense of self-preservation. On rare occasions, various drones have appeared to use emotive body language, [[In Darkest Knight|shaking in apparent fear]] or [[Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral|pleading (wordlessly) not to be shot]]. On one occasion a [[Tank Drone]] was seen to [[The Weak Component|vocalize with Tankor's voice]].<br /> <br /> ==Drone types==<br /> *[[Aero Drone]]s, led by [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]<br /> *[[Copter Drone]]s, led by [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]<br /> *[[Heavy Artillery Drone]]s, led by [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]<br /> *[[Vehicon Mole|Mole Drones]]<br /> *[[Motorcycle Drone]]s, led by [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]<br /> *[[Tank Drone]]s, led by [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]]<br /> * [[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] drones<br /> * Jet drones, led by [[Spy Streak]]<br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] <br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Quake (G1)|Quake]]<br /> * Chase drones, modeled after [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====<br /> [[Image:Vehicons Fires of The Past.JPG|left|200px|thumb|This time, Tron isn't taking any prisoners!]]<br /> The Vehicons first appeared on Cybertron in the wake of the virus that devastated the planet's population. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}} Megatron created factories to recycle the discarded body shells of captured Transformers into more Vehicons; {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}} in this way, his army fed on its own success. Soon the planet was cleared of all Transformers except for Vehicons, who then patrolled its empty streets and skies.<br /> <br /> The drones attacked Optimus Primal's crew of Maximals when they crash-landed on the conquered planet, disabling them with gas canisters containing a [[transformation virus]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent}} and continued to harass them in the wake of the Maximals' reformatting. {{storylink|The Reformatting}} When this failed to destroy the techorganic Maximals, Megatron commissioned his first three Vehicon generals to oppose his old foes. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}}<br /> <br /> Even the three generals would ultimately prove ineffective against the Maximals. Tankor eventually betrayed Megatron and was destroyed. {{storylink|End of the Line}} Jetstorm was reformatted by the Maximals, and reverted to his original Silverbolt persona. {{storylink|In Darkest Knight}} Thrust, by contrast, remained loyal to the end.<br /> <br /> With his initial plan having met with failure, Megatron summoned up two more generals, and two new drone types as well. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike}} They did well, but Cheetor didn't like them so he shot 'em into space. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall}}<br /> <br /> It is not known what became of the Vehicon drones after the war against Megatron ended; however, it is not unreasonable to guess that they were reformatted into technorganic form along with the planet Cybertron itself, providing bodies for the newly-liberated sparks of Cybertron's population. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}<br /> <br /> ====3H comics====<br /> [[File:Cryotekcyclonusseries.jpg|upright=2.8|thumb]]<br /> <br /> Centuries after the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] was caught up in the Predacon [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s attack on all Cybertron. Despite Megatron's attempts to implant his spark within a Vehicon body, Cyclonus retained his own mind and managed to escape with the desire to restore the glorious Decepticon empire. Cyclonus had already been seduced by [[Cryotek (Universe)|Cryotek]]'s ambitions when he joined the [[Wrecker]]s in an attack where a horde of Vehicon drones, led by three all-new Generals, were unable to stop them from stealing an Autobot shuttle and blowing up the spaceport. {{storylink|Departure}}<br /> <br /> [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] attacked [[Primal Prime]]'s newly-arrived team of Maximals. He plunged [[Apelinq (BM)|Apelinq]] into the same transwarp portal that the team had come through. He was destroyed in transit. {{storylink|Apelinq's War Journals}}<br /> <br /> ====Waspscream continuity====<br /> In [[Primax 208.06 Zeta]], Inferno was captured alongside Scorponok and shipped back to Cybertron aboard a stolen shuttle from the ''Ark''. By the time that they reached Cybertron, however, they realized that Megatron had broken free and already taken over the planet. Megatron offered his two former lackeys a chance to serve him again, and Inferno, overjoyed at the prospect of aiding his queen, accepted. With a new [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] body, he became a [[Vehicon general]] in command of [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]]s. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} This upgrade removed most of his madness, but not his loyalty to his beloved queen. After [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] killed Megatron and seized control of Cybertron, Inferno swore revenge and defected, joining up with Waspscream's [[technorganic]] Predacons. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} Along with Obisidan and his universe's incarnation of [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], Inferno was abducted by [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|#Universe (2003)|BotCon 2006 Inferno toy bio}} Try as Unicron might, Inferno couldn't be broken, seeking only to destroy the two traitors to his colony, and was thus imprisoned in the [[Cauldron]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} After he was liberated by Optimus Primal, he joined the [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]] in the [[Universe War]], and wound up fighting alongside a similarly redeemed [[Inferno (Universe)|alternate-universe incarnation of himself]]. {{storylink|#Universe (2003)|BotCon 2006 Inferno toy bio}}<br /> <br /> ===2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===<br /> After [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] took the credit for capturing [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]] exclaimed &quot;What are we? Vehicon drones?&quot; {{storylink|Sideburn's Obsession}}<br /> <br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Just like in many [[Primax]] realities, a Spark War ensued in the future of [[Viron 102.0 Beta]], caused by a quantum orphan [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] from [[Primax 496.22 Alpha]] and his army of Vehicons. [[Mirage (RID)|Mirage]] was one of the victims of this war. However, he used the [[Genetronic Translink System]] to control a Vehicon body even while his spark was in enemy hands. After the defeat of Megatron, Mirage traveled back in time to guide the [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]] against [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''Beast Machines''===<br /> [[Image:BM Blastcharge-toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Blastcharge]]<br /> [[Image:BM ultra Jetstorm toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Ultra Jetstorm]]<br /> [[Image:BM-toy Scavenger.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scavenger]]<br /> * '''Vehicons''' (1999-2000)<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] - Deluxe and Ultra<br /> ***[[Aero Drone|Sonic Attack Jet]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] - Basic<br /> **[[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] - Basic<br /> **[[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] - Basic<br /> **[[Spy Streak]] - Basic<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] - Mega<br /> ***[[Tank Drone]] - Basic<br /> **[[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] - Deluxe<br /> ***[[Motorcycle Drone]] - Basic<br /> <br /> :The Vehicons made up fully one half of the [[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|''Beast Machines'' toyline]]. They were the first new fully-vehicular Transformer toys since the end of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' in 1995, and the first to explore a Cybertronian aesthetic since Generation 1. Their vehicle forms are futuristic and military-themed. Most have a vehicle mode &quot;head&quot; analogue, allowing their vehicle form to look around. As robots, they sport unusually alien stylings and proportions. Some also sport unusual forms of locomotion, including legless hover modes and unicycle wheel bases. Most have a [[spark crystal]] located somewhere on their body.<br /> <br /> {{bigquote|These guys hover, walk, roll, crawl... the Vehicons are all about big guns, big firepower.|Hasbro rep at [[BotCon 1999]], on the upcoming Vehicon toys}}<br /> <br /> ===''Expanded Universe''===<br /> [[File:ExpandedUniversetoy-Cyclonus.jpg|150px|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cyclonus''' (Ultra, 2002)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 missiles, 2 drone-missiles<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers: Expanded Universe|Expanded Universe]]'' Cyclonus is a redeco of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Jetstorm (BM)#Toys|Ultra Jetstorm]], replacing blue with lavender, purple and gray, and the yellows with red. His [[spark]] crystal was [[tampograph]]ed with a Decepticon sigil. He transforms into a Cybertronic fighter jet. His jet mode cockpit/neck is geared up with the pop-up gun turret on his back so that both turn in the same direction when moved. This turret has a light-up feature plus two spring-loaded missiles. Cyclonus has both a &quot;normal&quot; bipedal robot mode and a &quot;flight robot mode&quot; with pop-out thruster engines.<br /> <br /> : Cyclonus was available exclusively at [[BotCon 2002]].<br /> <br /> ===''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)===<br /> * '''Nightcruz / Mirage GT / Scavenger''' (Mega-level 3-pack, 2002)<br /> [[File:RID-toy MirageGT.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> : A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' Vehicon [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]], Mirage GT transforms into a Cybertronic dragster similar in shape to an F-1 racer. In both modes he has pair of pressure-launch tailpipe-missiles; in car mode they attach to his spoiler, while in robot mode one as affixed to each arm. The small blaster-weapon attached to his head can also be removed and used as a hand-held weapon. He was available only in a 3-pack with [[Nightcruz (RID)|Nightcruz]] and [[Scavenger (RID)|Scavenger]].<br /> <br /> : This set was released in Japan as a [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us|ToysЯUs]] [[exclusive]] &quot;[[USA Edition]]&quot; set on [[July 31]], 2002.<br /> <br /> : This mold was planned for use as a convention-[[exclusive]] version of [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]], which was ultimately never made.<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2003)===<br /> [[File:Universe2003toy-TankorObsidian.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> * '''Decepticons''' (2003-2005)<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Nemesis Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] &amp; [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] two-pack<br /> <br /> :A few ''Beast Machines'' Vehicon molds were repainted for the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line. However, they were labeled as [[Decepticon]]s instead of Vehicons.<br /> <br /> ===Universe (2003)===<br /> {{anchor|BC06}}<br /> [[File:Universe2003toy-InfernoBotCon.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|&quot;Inferno, Burninate!&quot;]]<br /> *'''Inferno''' (Scout-class, 2006)<br /> **''Accessories'': Blade, key<br /> <br /> :This [[redeco]] of [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]] was only available in the customization class at [[BotCon 2006]], along with [[Rumble (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)|Rumble]]. Parts were provided, but the individuals taking the class had to assemble and paint the toy themselves. For those who wish to reproduce Inferno at home, the following Testors paint colors were used: Gin Green, Bright Blue, Camouflage Gray, Flat White, Cobalt Blue, Deep Pearlescent Purple, Medium Gray, Armored Steel, and Flat Black.<br /> <br /> : Inferno transforms into a four-legged &quot;spider tank&quot; with top-mounted cannon. Inserting a [[Cyber Key]] into the back end of the cannon swings a removable clear-plastic sawblade-sword from the main chamber of the cannon. In robot mode, the fists can be covered with the tank mode spikes, or a &quot;pile driver&quot;. <br /> <br /> : This mold was also used to make the [[Cobybot]].<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Beast Machines]]<br /> [[Category:Drones]]<br /> [[Category:Factions]]<br /> [[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]<br /> [[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) subgroups]]<br /> [[Category:Vehicons| ]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Vehicon_(BM)&diff=1109058 2016-07-10T22:22:49Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Fiction */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|vehicon}}<br /> {{disambig3|Vehicon}}<br /> [[Image:Vehicon symbol.png|right|300px|thumb|Mindless. Obedient. Radioactive.]]<br /> <br /> The '''Vehicons''' are [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s personal army, a legion of military Transformers that allowed him to conquer planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and protect his one-robot empire from all threats. They pack lots of firepower and travel and attack ''en masse''.<br /> <br /> The overwhelming majority of Vehicons are unliving drones with no innate sentience or [[spark]]. Each Vehicon drone is usually controlled either directly by Megatron, or by a single sentient [[Vehicon general]] of the same (or similar) design. After the loss of [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] and [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]], their respective drones are apparently controlled by other generals.<br /> <br /> Vehicon drones are generally blindly obedient, with no sense of self-preservation. On rare occasions, various drones have appeared to use emotive body language, [[In Darkest Knight|shaking in apparent fear]] or [[Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral|pleading (wordlessly) not to be shot]]. On one occasion a [[Tank Drone]] was seen to [[The Weak Component|vocalize with Tankor's voice]].<br /> <br /> ==Drone types==<br /> *[[Aero Drone]]s, led by [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]<br /> *[[Copter Drone]]s, led by [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]<br /> *[[Heavy Artillery Drone]]s, led by [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]<br /> *[[Vehicon Mole|Mole Drones]]<br /> *[[Motorcycle Drone]]s, led by [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]<br /> *[[Tank Drone]]s, led by [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]]<br /> * [[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] drones<br /> * Jet drones, led by [[Spy Streak]]<br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] <br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Quake (G1)|Quake]]<br /> * Chase drones, modeled after [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====<br /> [[Image:Vehicons Fires of The Past.JPG|left|200px|thumb|This time, Tron isn't taking any prisoners!]]<br /> The Vehicons first appeared on Cybertron in the wake of the virus that devastated the planet's population. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}} Megatron created factories to recycle the discarded body shells of captured Transformers into more Vehicons; {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}} in this way, his army fed on its own success. Soon the planet was cleared of all Transformers except for Vehicons, who then patrolled its empty streets and skies.<br /> <br /> The drones attacked Optimus Primal's crew of Maximals when they crash-landed on the conquered planet, disabling them with gas canisters containing a [[transformation virus]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent}} and continued to harass them in the wake of the Maximals' reformatting. {{storylink|The Reformatting}} When this failed to destroy the techorganic Maximals, Megatron commissioned his first three Vehicon generals to oppose his old foes. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}}<br /> <br /> Even the three generals would ultimately prove ineffective against the Maximals. Tankor eventually betrayed Megatron and was destroyed. {{storylink|End of the Line}} Jetstorm was reformatted by the Maximals, and reverted to his original Silverbolt persona. {{storylink|In Darkest Knight}} Thrust, by contrast, remained loyal to the end.<br /> <br /> With his initial plan having met with failure, Megatron summoned up two more generals, and two new drone types as well. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike}} They did well, but Cheetor didn't like them so he shot 'em into space. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall}}<br /> <br /> It is not known what became of the Vehicon drones after the war against Megatron ended; however, it is not unreasonable to guess that they were reformatted into technorganic form along with the planet Cybertron itself, providing bodies for the newly-liberated sparks of Cybertron's population. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}<br /> <br /> ====3H comics====<br /> [[File:Cryotekcyclonusseries.jpg|upright=2.8|thumb]]<br /> <br /> Centuries after the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] was caught up in the Predacon [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s attack on all Cybertron. Despite Megatron's attempts to implant his spark within a Vehicon body, Cyclonus retained his own mind and managed to escape with the desire to restore the glorious Decepticon empire. Cyclonus had already been seduced by [[Cryotek (Universe)|Cryotek]]'s ambitions when he joined the [[Wrecker]]s in an attack where a horde of Vehicon drones, led by three all-new Generals, were unable to stop them from stealing an Autobot shuttle and blowing up the spaceport. {{storylink|Departure}}<br /> <br /> [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] attacked [[Primal Prime]]'s newly-arrived team of Maximals. He plunged [[Apelinq (BM)|Apelinq]] into the same transwarp portal that the team had come through. He was destroyed in transit. {{storylink|Apelinq's War Journals}}<br /> <br /> ====Waspscream continuity====<br /> In [[Primax 208.06 Zeta]], Inferno was captured alongside Scorponok and shipped back to Cybertron aboard a stolen shuttle from the ''Ark''. By the time that they reached Cybertron, however, they realized that Megatron had broken free and already taken over the planet. Megatron offered his two former lackeys a chance to serve him again, and Inferno, overjoyed at the prospect of aiding his queen, accepted. With a new [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] body, he became a [[Vehicon general]] in command of [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]]s. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} This upgrade removed most of his madness, but not his loyalty to his beloved queen. After [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] killed Megatron and seized control of Cybertron, Inferno swore revenge and defected, joining up with Waspscream's [[technorganic]] Predacons. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} Along with Obisidan and his universe's incarnation of [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], Inferno was abducted by [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|#Universe (2003)|BotCon 2006 Inferno toy bio}} Try as Unicron might, Inferno couldn't be broken, seeking only to destroy the two traitors to his colony, and was thus imprisoned in the [[Cauldron]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 16/8/2015}} After he was liberated by Optimus Primal, he joined the [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]] in the [[Universe War]], and wound up fighting alongside a similarly redeemed [[Inferno (Universe)|alternate-universe incarnation of himself]]. {{storylink|#Universe (2003)|BotCon 2006 Inferno toy bio}}<br /> <br /> ===2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===<br /> After [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] took the credit for capturing [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]] exclaimed &quot;What are we? Vehicon drones?&quot; {{storylink|Sideburn's Obsession}}<br /> <br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Just like in many [[Primax]] realities, a Spark War ensued in the future of [[Viron 102.0 Beta]], caused by a quantum orphan [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] from [[Primax 496.22 Alpha]] and his army of Vehicons. [[Mirage (RID)|Mirage]] was one of the victims of this war. However, he used the [[Genetronic Translink System]] to control a Vehicon body even while his spark was in enemy hands. After the defeat of Megatron, Mirage traveled back in time to guide the [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]] against [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''Beast Machines''===<br /> [[Image:BM Blastcharge-toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Blastcharge]]<br /> [[Image:BM ultra Jetstorm toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Ultra Jetstorm]]<br /> [[Image:BM-toy Scavenger.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scavenger]]<br /> * '''Vehicons''' (1999-2000)<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] - Deluxe and Ultra<br /> ***[[Aero Drone|Sonic Attack Jet]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] - Basic<br /> **[[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] - Basic<br /> **[[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] - Basic<br /> **[[Spy Streak]] - Basic<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] - Mega<br /> ***[[Tank Drone]] - Basic<br /> **[[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] - Deluxe<br /> ***[[Motorcycle Drone]] - Basic<br /> <br /> :The Vehicons made up fully one half of the [[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|''Beast Machines'' toyline]]. They were the first new fully-vehicular Transformer toys since the end of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' in 1995, and the first to explore a Cybertronian aesthetic since Generation 1. Their vehicle forms are futuristic and military-themed. Most have a vehicle mode &quot;head&quot; analogue, allowing their vehicle form to look around. As robots, they sport unusually alien stylings and proportions. Some also sport unusual forms of locomotion, including legless hover modes and unicycle wheel bases. Most have a [[spark crystal]] located somewhere on their body.<br /> <br /> {{bigquote|These guys hover, walk, roll, crawl... the Vehicons are all about big guns, big firepower.|Hasbro rep at [[BotCon 1999]], on the upcoming Vehicon toys}}<br /> <br /> ===''Expanded Universe''===<br /> [[File:ExpandedUniversetoy-Cyclonus.jpg|150px|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cyclonus''' (Ultra, 2002)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 missiles, 2 drone-missiles<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers: Expanded Universe|Expanded Universe]]'' Cyclonus is a redeco of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Jetstorm (BM)#Toys|Ultra Jetstorm]], replacing blue with lavender, purple and gray, and the yellows with red. His [[spark]] crystal was [[tampograph]]ed with a Decepticon sigil. He transforms into a Cybertronic fighter jet. His jet mode cockpit/neck is geared up with the pop-up gun turret on his back so that both turn in the same direction when moved. This turret has a light-up feature plus two spring-loaded missiles. Cyclonus has both a &quot;normal&quot; bipedal robot mode and a &quot;flight robot mode&quot; with pop-out thruster engines.<br /> <br /> : Cyclonus was available exclusively at [[BotCon 2002]].<br /> <br /> ===''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)===<br /> * '''Nightcruz / Mirage GT / Scavenger''' (Mega-level 3-pack, 2002)<br /> [[File:RID-toy MirageGT.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> : A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' Vehicon [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]], Mirage GT transforms into a Cybertronic dragster similar in shape to an F-1 racer. In both modes he has pair of pressure-launch tailpipe-missiles; in car mode they attach to his spoiler, while in robot mode one as affixed to each arm. The small blaster-weapon attached to his head can also be removed and used as a hand-held weapon. He was available only in a 3-pack with [[Nightcruz (RID)|Nightcruz]] and [[Scavenger (RID)|Scavenger]].<br /> <br /> : This set was released in Japan as a [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us|ToysЯUs]] [[exclusive]] &quot;[[USA Edition]]&quot; set on [[July 31]], 2002.<br /> <br /> : This mold was planned for use as a convention-[[exclusive]] version of [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]], which was ultimately never made.<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2003)===<br /> [[File:Universe2003toy-TankorObsidian.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> * '''Decepticons''' (2003-2005)<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Nemesis Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] &amp; [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] two-pack<br /> <br /> :A few ''Beast Machines'' Vehicon molds were repainted for the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line. However, they were labeled as [[Decepticon]]s instead of Vehicons.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Beast Machines]]<br /> [[Category:Drones]]<br /> [[Category:Factions]]<br /> [[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]<br /> [[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) subgroups]]<br /> [[Category:Vehicons| ]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ask_Vector_Prime&diff=1058362 2016-02-21T04:34:50Z

<p>Crossblades: Why did this get removed? Its the truth isn&#039;t it?</p> <hr /> <div>{{quote|Was Primus Cool?}}<br /> {{quote|Cool? As in cold to the touch?! Heaven's no! Primus is warm and full of life! Ha!|Vector Prime &quot;answers&quot; a fan's question.}}<br /> [[File:Ask Vector Prime.jpg|right|upright=1.8|thumb|I will.]]<br /> <br /> '''Ask Vector Prime''' is a recurring feature where [[human]]s could submit questions about [[Transformer]]s. Based on unknown criteria, [[Vector Prime]] selected certain questions and answers them to the best of his ability. Vector Prime will sometimes 'misunderstand' a question he'd rather not answer.<br /> <br /> Vector Prime is aware of ''Transformers'' as fiction and as a toy line such as in the Marvel UK letters pages, which were answered by Transformers who were even shown working in Marvel UK's office. Vector Prime explains this as being aware of which universes were manifested as fiction in the [[Quadwal|Quadwal Cluster]].<br /> <br /> The column has occasionally provided important information not found anywhere else and, in the fan-run revivals, has clarified (and created) lots of obscure trivia. <br /> <br /> ==Hasbro website==<br /> &quot;Ask Vector Prime&quot; started as a feature on [[Hasbro]]'s official Transformers website, back during [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|''Transformers: Cybertron'']]. The questions answered by Vector Prime varied widely in nature, but most concerned the [[Unicron Trilogy|universe]] where the [[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|search for the Cyber Planet Keys]] took place, the [[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|toyline]] and [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|cartoon]] in Hasbro's own universe which parallel said search, or Vector Prime himself. Unfortunately, updates were rare, and ceased entirely after Vector Prime became one with time itself. Which is fair enough.<br /> <br /> Through the site, Vector Prime had revealed the existence of two Transformers who have not been seen in any other form: a female [[Transformers: Alternators|Alternator]], apparently from his home universe, and [[disco ball|a Mini-Con with a disco ball alternate mode]]. He has also mentioned that he has met both [[Alpha Trion (Energon)|Alpha Trion]] and [[Alpha Quintesson|Alpha Q]], that, &quot;yes, [[Override (Cybertron)|she]] is a girl,&quot; that he considers [[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]] his best friend, and that he is aware of (and impressed by) the story of [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]. Additionally, it was here that he stated that &quot;I am not here to blend.&quot; However, when asked about his weight, he simply said it depended on what planet he was on, and made no further comment on the subject.<br /> <br /> It was this column that confirmed the Cybertron cartoon took place ten years after the end of ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'', and confirmed that ''Cybertron'' [[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]] was the same character as ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' Sideways. <br /> <br /> ==''The AllSpark Almanac''==<br /> Ask Vector Prime made a comeback in ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II]]'' in the form of [[easter egg]]s scattered throughout the book written in [[Cybertronix]] lettering. While questions were solicited on [[Jim Sorenson]]'s [http://boltax.blogspot.com/2010/04/ask-vector-prime.html blog] a few months before the book came out, the few responses to that request seem to indicate that most of the questions were written by the Almanac II's authors.<br /> <br /> Later, more questions and answers appeared in ''[[Transformers Animated: The Complete AllSpark Almanac|The Complete AllSpark Almanac]]''.<br /> <br /> ==Facebook==<br /> {{quote|You need to stop overthinking things.|Vector Prime's advice falls on [[Fandom|deaf ears]]...}}<br /> <br /> {{comicstory<br /> |seriesissue=''[[Transformers Timelines (franchise)|Transformers Timelines]]''&lt;br&gt;Facebook page<br /> |prev=Axiom Nexus News Editor<br /> |next=Transformers: Spacewarp's Log<br /> |image=Ask Vector Prime Facebook.jpg<br /> |caption=Now you too can pester the omniscient guardian of space-time with questions about nameless background characters!<br /> |title=Ask Vector Prime<br /> |writer=[[Jim Sorenson]], [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], [[Chris McFeely]], et al.<br /> |date=[[May 13]], [[2015]]–&lt;br&gt;[[February 15]], [[2016]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> From [[May 13]] to [[September 30]], [[2015]], Ask Vector Prime made yet another comeback in the form of a [https://www.facebook.com/AskVectorPrime Facebook page] created by the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] as part of the Club's prelude material that led up to the [[BotCon 2015]] comic story &quot;[[Cybertron's Most Wanted]]&quot;. Similar to the original version from Hasbro's website, this new installment enabled fans to once again post actual questions for Vector Prime to answer on his Facebook. <br /> <br /> Vector's answers continued to include a mix of jokes, evasions, and intentional misunderstandings. Many answers focused on Vector Prime's own history. A ''lot'' of [[universal stream]] designations were identified or introduced this time around, and many previously-unnamed or partially-named individuals and teams would [[Lori Jiménez|receive]] [[Rainmaker|official]] [[Sentinel Minor|names]]. A new type of answer, elaborate stories set in the distant futures or pasts of obscure universes, became a regular part of the feature.<br /> <br /> On 5th June, he ended up in a crossover with sister Facebook page &quot;[[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist]]&quot; when Rook started to ask why he sounded [[Richard Newman|like Rhinox]]. Prime trolled him for a while until Rook accused him of being a guardian of time and space ''pretending'' to be an old duffer, at which point Vector Prime complained to the journalist's editor.<br /> <br /> ===Guest Columnists===<br /> One of the hallmarks of the Facebook edition of Ask Vector Prime was the frequent inclusion of guest columnists. This started when the column took a hiatus between [[June 27]], 2015 and [[July 8]], 2015 before coming back, to facilitate...<br /> <br /> ====Ask Sideways====<br /> [[File:Ask Sideways.jpg|upright=0.9|thumb|left|He has many insightful comments about your mother.]]<br /> <br /> On June 27, 2015, [[Axiom Nexus News]] journalist [[Andromeda (TransTech)|Andromeda]] reported that Vector Prime had been kidnapped by [[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]]. {{storylink|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News Reporter}} Shortly following this announcement, the Ask Vector Prime Facebook and Twitter feeds were taken over by Sideways. His tone was decidedly unhelpful, and he promised to &quot;lie like a girder&quot;, as he gleefully made his way through Vector Prime's outstanding questions and answered questions directed at him. A lot of questions about obscure ''Transformers'' trivia got the answer of &quot;sure, why not?&quot;, and invariably answers about who did any kind of atrocity were some variation of &quot;me!&quot; <br /> <br /> After a few days, Sideways started to employ heavy sexual innuendo, which was initially well-regarded by the fan community. &lt;ref&gt;http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/116666-3-new-botcon-facebook-character-pages-rook-andromeda-and-axiom-nexus-news-editor/?p=2956638&lt;/ref&gt; Unfortunately, it led to an answer about [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] that, although unintentional in wording and overtones, the creators agreed was badly phrased, and thankfully edited out within an hour, immediately followed by an apology from the creators.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/116666-3-new-botcon-facebook-character-pages-rook-andromeda-and-axiom-nexus-news-editor/page-72#entry2963353&lt;/ref&gt; Further questions that would have had such elements were toned down or cut out completely. (But the wiki remembers, Sideways). <br /> <br /> When people replied to his answers, they could sometimes end up in a comment discussion with Sideways. &lt;ref&gt;http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/116666-3-new-botcon-facebook-character-pages-rook-andromeda-and-axiom-nexus-news-editor/?p=2962394&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> On July 8, Ask Sideways ended with the conceit that the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] had found him by tracking our questions to him, as detailed on [[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist|Rook's Facebook page]]. A question from [[David Willis|one such audience member]] blew his head up! (But Sideways Headmaster-linked with [[Rook (Armada)|Rook]] and escaped Nexus 208.0 Epsilon.)<br /> <br /> ====Grim Grams====<br /> [[File:GrimGramsFacebook.jpg|thumb]]<br /> On September 30, Vector Prime secretly departed Axiom Nexus on the behest of his brother [[Nexus Prime]], much to the chagrin of the overworked Rook. After putting out a request on [[Cragun's List]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] eagerly took the job, and celebrated by renaming the column [[Letters page (Marvel UK)#Grim Grams|Grim Grams]]. The Dinobot... did his best to work through the backlog of questions intended for Vector Prime while answering new questions about himself and his adventures. Ratings swiftly plummeted, prompting Rook—who was more concerned with the potential destruction of the [[multiverse]]—to fire the Dinobot and replace him with &quot;someone clever&quot;...<br /> <br /> ====Swindle's Spiel====<br /> [[File:Swindleswindleandswindle.jpg|left|thumb]]<br /> On October 3rd, [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] - to be more precise, one of the three Swindles running [[Swindle, Swindle &amp; Swindle]] - took the job, renaming the column &quot;Swindle's Spiel&quot;. Although decidedly more coherent than his immediate predecessor, Swindle tended to turn potential answers into platforms to shill his various products. Swindle was fired on October 6th for subverting the terms of his contract. At the behest of his editor, Rook put out a call for someone &quot;straightforward&quot; and &quot;earnest&quot;, which couldn't possibly bite him in the afterburner, could it?<br /> <br /> ====Sentinel Shouting==== <br /> [[File:Ask Vector Prime Sentinel Prime.jpg|thumb|NO! NO! WE ARE NOT DOING THE BLOODY ''GOOD LIFE''! I BLOODY HATE ''THE GOOD LIFE''! BLOODY, BLOODY, '''BLOODY!''']]<br /> On October 7, [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Minor]] took over the column, this time renaming it &quot;Sentinel Shouting&quot;. Unsurprisingly, Sentinel was rather confrontational and aggressive with his readers. <br /> <br /> (Rook is a pretty bad judge of character.)<br /> <br /> During his brief tenure, Sentinel talked about how he would handle things if he ever became Magnus: heavy 'law and order' policies, cutting all money from civil society and moving it all to warships, and squeezing the Decepticon lemon until the pips squeaked. <br /> <br /> By October 9, Sentinel realized that he was corresponding with a bunch of organics. He didn't take the news well and abdicated the position. After Sentinel left, the editor tasked Andromeda with finding yet another replacement, as he had sent Rook to the [[Primax 1015.06 Kappa]] discovery party to help ease him of his stress. Due to Sentinel's abrasiveness turning away younger viewers, the editor pushed her to find someone [[kid-appeal character|popular with the younger crowd]], to which Andromeda immediately knew of a bot for the job...<br /> <br /> ====Bee's Backtalk====<br /> [[File:Ask Vector Prime Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|Kid-appeal is good for attracting viewers.]]<br /> Later on October 9, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] became the fourth successor to Vector Prime for the column, renaming the column to &quot;Bee's Backtalk&quot;. As expected, Bumblebee answered questions with audio clips put together, given his inability to speak.<br /> <br /> On October 13, as Bumblebee was about to answer why things in the [[Tyran]] Cluster are prone to exploding, he suddenly found himself in the middle of a battleground as everything around him exploded, the Axiom Nexus News team losing contact with him (disappointing the editor, who was pleased that Bumblebee was able to stabilize ratings). As Andromeda was the one who found Bumblebee, she was tasked with finding his replacement, someone who, in contrast to Bumblebee's cryptic radio answers, could speak their mind in a straightforward manner.<br /> <br /> ====Renegade Rhetoric====<br /> [[File:Ask Cy-Kill.jpg|thumb|This modified screencap from ''Challenge of the Go-Bots'' lasted as long as it took for someone to realize Time Warner still held the rights. It was subsequently [[:File:Renegade Rhetoric Cy-Kill minus lawsuit.jpg|replaced]].]]<br /> And she thought it'd be a good idea to hire [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]]. Okay, Beavis.<br /> <br /> Cy-Kill hoped to use the page to convince us of the rightness of the [[Renegade]] cause and how cool they were. Thanks to leading questions from fans, the wiki got a whole lot of GoBots pages while it was running! Attempts at getting universe names [[Aurex something something|went less well]]. Renegade Rhetoric also got to lampoon parts of Transformers, with Cy-Kill taking a dim view of certain tropes (&quot;it's not as if I call my faction &quot;Untrustworthy-cons&quot; or some such rubbish&quot;).<br /> <br /> He used the column to recruit agents and casually admit he had just bombed a government building (&quot;a gentlemen never bombs and tells&quot;). Eventually, [[Cheetor (TransTech)|Cheetor]] cracked down on his operation. With the help of his new combiner [[Monsterous]], however, Cy-Kill and his new Renegade team evaded capture and chrono-jumped to parts and times unknown. Of course, Cy-Kill had got ''ratings'' during his tenure, so ANN decided they wanted another charismatic baddie.<br /> <br /> ====Shark Sonnets====<br /> [[File:Ask Shark Sonnets.jpg|thumb|left||No 5-7-7 violations here!]]<br /> <br /> [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] will answer &lt;br&gt;<br /> All the questions put to him.&lt;br&gt;<br /> And the fans rejoice. <br /> <br /> Confidence was low&lt;br&gt;<br /> Answers now took form of haiku&lt;br&gt;<br /> To calm his waffle&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> Told he was boring&lt;br&gt;<br /> So he took a better calling&lt;br&gt;<br /> Left with one last bow.<br /> <br /> ====Spacewarp's Log====<br /> [[File:Ask Vector Prime Spacewarp's Log.jpg|thumb|right|Being female probably isn't the most &quot;different&quot; thing about her...]]<br /> With Sky-Byte's departure for a more fulfilling job at [[The Blue Deployer]], Andromeda was once again tasked with finding a new host; this time, someone charismatic, who tells stories (but not a terrorist), with [[Female Transformer|something different]] about them.<br /> <br /> Her selection: [[Spacewarp]], taking on the job until she could &quot;punch, gamble, sneak, research, or flirt [her] way off-world&quot;.<br /> <br /> After [[Optimus Prime (TransTech)|High Chancellor Optimus Prime]] started increasing the number of off-planet visas following Axiom Nexus losing contact with the rest of the multiverse, Spacewarp took the chance, quickly obtaining one (through legal means even!), setting off for more adventures.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===The return===<br /> Vector Prime returned from his adventures on November 1, Quadwal time. After [[Shroud|the reorganization of the multiverse]], this new Vector Prime was but a splinter of his former self; this particular iteration of Vector Prime had always existed as a more or less normal Cybertronian within Nexus 208.0 Epsilon, although he was vaguely aware that he had once been a part of something greater.<br /> <br /> With the TransTechs' multiversal reach lost, Vector Prime was assigned to travel to the planet [[Nebulos]], where the dimensional walls were thin and he could covertly &quot;listen in&quot; on [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]], with a Nebulan covert agent codenamed [[Safeguard (TransTech)|Safeguard]]...and a bodyguard named [[Scorpia (TransTech)|Scorpia]]. Vector Prime decided that the time had come to close his column, although he decided to tie up any loose ends before he left. Notably, this Vector Prime was substantially less interested in his reader's questions about who came from what specific reality, and at least once openly wondered about their [[List of universal streams|desire to categorize unimportant trivia]].<br /> <br /> {{quote|Would knowing the precise, specific plane of their origination give you more insight into them than their own words?}}<br /> <br /> He later promoted Axiom Nexus's new column, [[Transformers: Spacewarp's Log]], and was hacked by [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]] to promote his pirate column, [[Renegade Rhetoric]].<br /> <br /> ===Contributors===<br /> {{quote|I just read the answers and slap some sense into you if you go '''Full Sorenson'''.|[[Jesse Wittenrich]], [[Fun Publications]] editor.}}<br /> <br /> The Facebook version of Ask Vector Prime is written by [[Jim Sorenson]] and edited by [[Jesse Wittenrich]]. Perhaps unsurprisingly for a column that's run for the better part of eight months (as of the end of December 2015), there are many additional contributors. &lt;ref&gt;https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153272529184902&amp;set=a.53930589901.64442.584094901&amp;type=1&amp;theater&lt;/ref&gt; They include: <br /> <br /> *Writers:<br /> {{collist|3|<br /> *[[Chris McFeely]]<br /> *[[User:Escargon|Alexis Carlo]]<br /> *[[Hirofumi Ichikawa]]<br /> *[[User:Monzo|Matthew Karpowich]]<br /> *[[James Roberts]]<br /> *[[Simon Furman]]<br /> *[[Glen Hallit]]<br /> *[[Dan Khanna]]<br /> *[[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|Louis Sun]]&lt;ref&gt;http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/116666-ask-vector-prime-axiom-nexus-news-on-facebook/?p=3041854&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Andrew Hall]]<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/forums Allspark forum] user [http://www.allspark.com/forums/user/14624-gearshift/ Gearshift] &lt;ref&gt;https://www.facebook.com/AskVectorPrime/posts/727800610685245?comment_id=731054300359876&amp;offset=0&amp;total_comments=6&amp;comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Trent Troop]]<br /> *[http://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/author/rachel-stevens-2/ Rachel Stevens]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> *Artists:<br /> {{collist|3|<br /> *Brandy Dixon<br /> *Betsy Blackie<br /> *[[Matt Kuphaldt]]<br /> *[[Bill Forster]]<br /> *[[Matthew Reinhart]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> *Actors:<br /> {{collist|3|<br /> *[[Peter Spellos]]<br /> *[[Kellen Goff]]<br /> *[[Abby Collins]]<br /> *[[Daniel Ross]]<br /> *Marissa Meizel<br /> *[[David Sobolov]]<br /> *[[Jon Bailey]]<br /> *[[Richard Newman]]<br /> *Corina Boettger<br /> *Kelly Boyer<br /> *Sean Chiplock<br /> *Trent Martin<br /> *Shane Morrison<br /> *Penelope-Sophia Smith<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Notes===<br /> *As of [[July 16]], [[2015]], Ask Vector Prime had a total readership of 7,263 people.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153272529184902&amp;set=a.53930589901.64442.584094901&amp;type=1&amp;theater&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> * Notably, Ask Vector Prime:<br /> ** Provided English translations for the names of the entire cast of ''[[Transformers Online]]''<br /> ** Invented names for pretty much every frigging [[Mini-Con]] team in existence<br /> ** Established some version(s) of the Thirteen as having visited Earth during the time of ancient [[Greece]] and inspiring/co-opting the legends of the {{w|Twelve Olympians}}, along with providing [[holomatter]] avatars for each of them<br /> ** Established the first female [[Optimus Prime (RID)#Spy Changer continuity|Optimus Prime]], as well as declared a [[Scorpia (G2)|large]] [[Nightcruz (RID)|number]] [[Major Altitude|of]] [[Windrazor (G1)|gender]]-[[Wedge Shape|undefined]] [[Mugen|characters]] [[Spacewarp|as]] [[Treadbolt|female]]<br /> ** Published [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]-style biocards for every toy-original ''Dark of the Moon'' human from [[Human Alliance]]<br /> ** Revealed the universe of origin of almost every character to participate in the [[Universe War]] (Soundwave, Space Case and Air Raid are the only ones whose universal origin wasn't revealed)<br /> ** Name-dropped every significant character and toy from ''[[GoBots]]'' and expanded on the ''{{w|Challenge of the Gobots}}'' cartoon considerably<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Ask Vector Prime/src|Ask Vector Prime archive at the Transformers Wiki]]<br /> *[[Ask Vector Prime/Facebook src|Ask Vector Prime Facebook archive at the Transformers Wiki]]<br /> *[[Ask Vector Prime/Sideways src|Ask Sideways Facebook archive at the Transformers Wiki]]<br /> *[[Ask Vector Prime/Guest column src|Guest column Facebook archive at the Transformers Wiki]]<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[https://www.facebook.com/AskVectorPrime Ask Vector Prime on Facebook]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Animated media]]<br /> [[Category:Cybertron media]]<br /> [[Category:TransTech media]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ask_Vector_Prime&diff=1058353 2016-02-21T04:12:58Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{quote|Was Primus Cool?}}<br /> {{quote|Cool? As in cold to the touch?! Heaven's no! Primus is warm and full of life! Ha!|Vector Prime &quot;answers&quot; a fan's question.}}<br /> [[File:Ask Vector Prime.jpg|right|upright=1.8|thumb|I will.]]<br /> <br /> '''Ask Vector Prime''' is a recurring feature where [[human]]s could submit questions about [[Transformer]]s. Based on unknown criteria, [[Vector Prime]] selected certain questions and answers them to the best of his ability. Vector Prime will sometimes 'misunderstand' a question he'd rather not answer.<br /> <br /> Vector Prime is aware of ''Transformers'' as fiction and as a toy line such as in the Marvel UK letters pages, which were answered by Transformers who were even shown working in Marvel UK's office. Vector Prime explains this as being aware of which universes were manifested as fiction in the [[Quadwal|Quadwal Cluster]].<br /> <br /> The column has occasionally provided important information not found anywhere else and, in the fan-run revivals, has clarified (and created) lots of obscure trivia. <br /> <br /> ==Hasbro website==<br /> &quot;Ask Vector Prime&quot; started as a feature on [[Hasbro]]'s official Transformers website, back during [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|''Transformers: Cybertron'']]. The questions answered by Vector Prime varied widely in nature, but most concerned the [[Unicron Trilogy|universe]] where the [[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|search for the Cyber Planet Keys]] took place, the [[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|toyline]] and [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|cartoon]] in Hasbro's own universe which parallel said search, or Vector Prime himself. Unfortunately, updates were rare, and ceased entirely after Vector Prime became one with time itself. Which is fair enough.<br /> <br /> Through the site, Vector Prime had revealed the existence of two Transformers who have not been seen in any other form: a female [[Transformers: Alternators|Alternator]], apparently from his home universe, and [[disco ball|a Mini-Con with a disco ball alternate mode]]. He has also mentioned that he has met both [[Alpha Trion (Energon)|Alpha Trion]] and [[Alpha Quintesson|Alpha Q]], that, &quot;yes, [[Override (Cybertron)|she]] is a girl,&quot; that he considers [[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]] his best friend, and that he is aware of (and impressed by) the story of [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]. Additionally, it was here that he stated that &quot;I am not here to blend.&quot; However, when asked about his weight, he simply said it depended on what planet he was on, and made no further comment on the subject.<br /> <br /> It was this column that confirmed the Cybertron cartoon took place ten years after the end of ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'', and confirmed that ''Cybertron'' [[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]] was the same character as ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' Sideways. <br /> <br /> ==''The AllSpark Almanac''==<br /> Ask Vector Prime made a comeback in ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II]]'' in the form of [[easter egg]]s scattered throughout the book written in [[Cybertronix]] lettering. While questions were solicited on [[Jim Sorenson]]'s [http://boltax.blogspot.com/2010/04/ask-vector-prime.html blog] a few months before the book came out, the few responses to that request seem to indicate that most of the questions were written by the Almanac II's authors.<br /> <br /> Later, more questions and answers appeared in ''[[Transformers Animated: The Complete AllSpark Almanac|The Complete AllSpark Almanac]]''.<br /> <br /> ==Facebook==<br /> {{quote|You need to stop overthinking things.|Vector Prime's advice falls on [[Fandom|deaf ears]]...}}<br /> <br /> {{comicstory<br /> |seriesissue=''[[Transformers Timelines (franchise)|Transformers Timelines]]''&lt;br&gt;Facebook page<br /> |prev=Axiom Nexus News Editor<br /> |next=Transformers: Spacewarp's Log<br /> |image=Ask Vector Prime Facebook.jpg<br /> |caption=Now you too can pester the omniscient guardian of space-time with questions about nameless background characters!<br /> |title=Ask Vector Prime<br /> |writer=[[Jim Sorenson]], [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], [[Chris McFeely]], et al.<br /> |date=[[May 13]], [[2015]]–&lt;br&gt;[[February 15]], [[2016]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> From [[May 13]] to [[September 30]], [[2015]], Ask Vector Prime made yet another comeback in the form of a [https://www.facebook.com/AskVectorPrime Facebook page] created by the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] as part of the Club's prelude material that led up to the [[BotCon 2015]] comic story &quot;[[Cybertron's Most Wanted]]&quot;. Similar to the original version from Hasbro's website, this new installment enabled fans to once again post actual questions for Vector Prime to answer on his Facebook. <br /> <br /> Vector's answers continued to include a mix of jokes, evasions, and intentional misunderstandings. Many answers focused on Vector Prime's own history. A ''lot'' of [[universal stream]] designations were identified or introduced this time around, and many previously-unnamed or partially-named individuals and teams would [[Lori Jiménez|receive]] [[Rainmaker|official]] [[Sentinel Minor|names]]. A new type of answer, elaborate stories set in the distant futures or pasts of obscure universes, became a regular part of the feature.<br /> <br /> On 5th June, he ended up in a crossover with sister Facebook page &quot;[[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist]]&quot; when Rook started to ask why he sounded [[Richard Newman|like Rhinox]]. Prime trolled him for a while until Rook accused him of being a guardian of time and space ''pretending'' to be an old duffer, at which point Vector Prime complained to the journalist's editor.<br /> <br /> ===Guest Columnists===<br /> One of the hallmarks of the Facebook edition of Ask Vector Prime was the frequent inclusion of guest columnists. This started when the column took a hiatus between [[June 27]], 2015 and [[July 8]], 2015 before coming back, to facilitate...<br /> <br /> ====Ask Sideways====<br /> [[File:Ask Sideways.jpg|upright=0.9|thumb|left|He has many insightful comments about your mother.]]<br /> <br /> On June 27, 2015, [[Axiom Nexus News]] journalist [[Andromeda (TransTech)|Andromeda]] reported that Vector Prime had been kidnapped by [[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]]. {{storylink|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News Reporter}} Shortly following this announcement, the Ask Vector Prime Facebook and Twitter feeds were taken over by Sideways. His tone was decidedly unhelpful, and he promised to &quot;lie like a girder&quot;, as he gleefully made his way through Vector Prime's outstanding questions and answered questions directed at him. A lot of questions about obscure ''Transformers'' trivia got the answer of &quot;sure, why not?&quot;, and invariably answers about who did any kind of atrocity were some variation of &quot;me!&quot; <br /> <br /> After a few days, Sideways started to employ heavy sexual innuendo, which was initially well-regarded by the fan community. &lt;ref&gt;http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/116666-3-new-botcon-facebook-character-pages-rook-andromeda-and-axiom-nexus-news-editor/?p=2956638&lt;/ref&gt; Unfortunately, it led to an answer about [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] that, although unintentional in wording and overtones, the creators agreed was badly phrased, and thankfully edited out within an hour, immediately followed by an apology from the creators.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/116666-3-new-botcon-facebook-character-pages-rook-andromeda-and-axiom-nexus-news-editor/page-72#entry2963353&lt;/ref&gt; Further questions that would have had such elements were toned down or cut out completely. (But the wiki remembers, Sideways). <br /> <br /> When people replied to his answers, they could sometimes end up in a comment discussion with Sideways. &lt;ref&gt;http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/116666-3-new-botcon-facebook-character-pages-rook-andromeda-and-axiom-nexus-news-editor/?p=2962394&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> On July 8, Ask Sideways ended with the conceit that the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] had found him by tracking our questions to him, as detailed on [[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist|Rook's Facebook page]]. A question from [[David Willis|one such audience member]] blew his head up! (But Sideways Headmaster-linked with [[Rook (Armada)|Rook]] and escaped Nexus 208.0 Epsilon.)<br /> <br /> ====Grim Grams====<br /> [[File:GrimGramsFacebook.jpg|thumb]]<br /> On September 30, Vector Prime secretly departed Axiom Nexus on the behest of his brother [[Nexus Prime]], much to the chagrin of the overworked Rook. After putting out a request on [[Cragun's List]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] eagerly took the job, and celebrated by renaming the column [[Letters page (Marvel UK)#Grim Grams|Grim Grams]]. The Dinobot... did his best to work through the backlog of questions intended for Vector Prime while answering new questions about himself and his adventures. Ratings swiftly plummeted, prompting Rook—who was more concerned with the potential destruction of the [[multiverse]]—to fire the Dinobot and replace him with &quot;someone clever&quot;...<br /> <br /> ====Swindle's Spiel====<br /> [[File:Swindleswindleandswindle.jpg|left|thumb]]<br /> On October 3rd, [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] - to be more precise, one of the three Swindles running [[Swindle, Swindle &amp; Swindle]] - took the job, renaming the column &quot;Swindle's Spiel&quot;. Although decidedly more coherent than his immediate predecessor, Swindle tended to turn potential answers into platforms to shill his various products. Swindle was fired on October 6th for subverting the terms of his contract. At the behest of his editor, Rook put out a call for someone &quot;straightforward&quot; and &quot;earnest&quot;, which couldn't possibly bite him in the afterburner, could it?<br /> <br /> ====Sentinel Shouting==== <br /> [[File:Ask Vector Prime Sentinel Prime.jpg|thumb|NO! NO! WE ARE NOT DOING THE BLOODY ''GOOD LIFE''! I BLOODY HATE ''THE GOOD LIFE''! BLOODY, BLOODY, '''BLOODY!''']]<br /> On October 7, [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Minor]] took over the column, this time renaming it &quot;Sentinel Shouting&quot;. Unsurprisingly, Sentinel was rather confrontational and aggressive with his readers. <br /> <br /> (Rook is a pretty bad judge of character.)<br /> <br /> During his brief tenure, Sentinel talked about how he would handle things if he ever became Magnus: heavy 'law and order' policies, cutting all money from civil society and moving it all to warships, and squeezing the Decepticon lemon until the pips squeaked. <br /> <br /> By October 9, Sentinel realized that he was corresponding with a bunch of organics. He didn't take the news well and abdicated the position. After Sentinel left, the editor tasked Andromeda with finding yet another replacement, as he had sent Rook to the [[Primax 1015.06 Kappa]] discovery party to help ease him of his stress. Due to Sentinel's abrasiveness turning away younger viewers, the editor pushed her to find someone [[kid-appeal character|popular with the younger crowd]], to which Andromeda immediately knew of a bot for the job...<br /> <br /> ====Bee's Backtalk====<br /> [[File:Ask Vector Prime Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|Kid-appeal is good for attracting viewers.]]<br /> Later on October 9, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] became the fourth successor to Vector Prime for the column, renaming the column to &quot;Bee's Backtalk&quot;. As expected, Bumblebee answered questions with audio clips put together, given his inability to speak.<br /> <br /> On October 13, as Bumblebee was about to answer why things in the [[Tyran]] Cluster are prone to exploding, he suddenly found himself in the middle of a battleground as everything around him exploded, the Axiom Nexus News team losing contact with him (disappointing the editor, who was pleased that Bumblebee was able to stabilize ratings). As Andromeda was the one who found Bumblebee, she was tasked with finding his replacement, someone who, in contrast to Bumblebee's cryptic radio answers, could speak their mind in a straightforward manner.<br /> <br /> ====Renegade Rhetoric====<br /> [[File:Ask Cy-Kill.jpg|thumb|This modified screencap from ''Challenge of the Go-Bots'' lasted as long as it took for someone to realize Time Warner still held the rights. It was subsequently [[:File:Renegade Rhetoric Cy-Kill minus lawsuit.jpg|replaced]].]]<br /> And she thought it'd be a good idea to hire [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]]. Okay, Beavis.<br /> <br /> Cy-Kill hoped to use the page to convince us of the rightness of the [[Renegade]] cause and how cool they were. Thanks to leading questions from fans, the wiki got a whole lot of GoBots pages while it was running! Attempts at getting universe names [[Aurex something something|went less well]]. Renegade Rhetoric also got to lampoon parts of Transformers, with Cy-Kill taking a dim view of certain tropes (&quot;it's not as if I call my faction &quot;Untrustworthy-cons&quot; or some such rubbish&quot;).<br /> <br /> He used the column to recruit agents and casually admit he had just bombed a government building (&quot;a gentlemen never bombs and tells&quot;). Eventually, [[Cheetor (TransTech)|Cheetor]] cracked down on his operation. With the help of his new combiner [[Monsterous]], however, Cy-Kill and his new Renegade team evaded capture and chrono-jumped to parts and times unknown. Of course, Cy-Kill had got ''ratings'' during his tenure, so ANN decided they wanted another charismatic baddie.<br /> <br /> ====Shark Sonnets====<br /> [[File:Ask Shark Sonnets.jpg|thumb|left||No 5-7-7 violations here!]]<br /> <br /> [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] will answer &lt;br&gt;<br /> All the questions put to him.&lt;br&gt;<br /> And the fans rejoice. <br /> <br /> Confidence was low&lt;br&gt;<br /> Answers now took form of haiku&lt;br&gt;<br /> To calm his waffle&lt;br&gt;<br /> <br /> Told he was boring&lt;br&gt;<br /> So he took a better calling&lt;br&gt;<br /> Left with one last bow.<br /> <br /> ====Spacewarp's Log====<br /> [[File:Ask Vector Prime Spacewarp's Log.jpg|thumb|right|Being female probably isn't the most &quot;different&quot; thing about her...]]<br /> With Sky-Byte's departure for a more fulfilling job at [[The Blue Deployer]], Andromeda was once again tasked with finding a new host; this time, someone charismatic, who tells stories (but not a terrorist), with [[Female Transformer|something different]] about them.<br /> <br /> Her selection: [[Spacewarp]], taking on the job until she could &quot;punch, gamble, sneak, research, or flirt [her] way off-world&quot;.<br /> <br /> After [[Optimus Prime (TransTech)|High Chancellor Optimus Prime]] started increasing the number of off-planet visas following Axiom Nexus losing contact with the rest of the multiverse, Spacewarp took the chance, quickly obtaining one (through legal means even!), setting off for more adventures.<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ===The return===<br /> Vector Prime returned from his adventures on November 1, Quadwal time. After [[Shroud|the reorganization of the multiverse]], this new Vector Prime was but a splinter of his former self; this particular iteration of Vector Prime had always existed as a more or less normal Cybertronian within Nexus 208.0 Epsilon, although he was vaguely aware that he had once been a part of something greater.<br /> <br /> With the TransTechs' multiversal reach lost, Vector Prime was assigned to travel to the planet [[Nebulos]], where the dimensional walls were thin and he could covertly &quot;listen in&quot; on [[Primax 984.0 Gamma]], with a Nebulan covert agent codenamed [[Safeguard (TransTech)|Safeguard]]...and a bodyguard named [[Scorpia (TransTech)|Scorpia]]. Vector Prime decided that the time had come to close his column, although he decided to tie up any loose ends before he left. Notably, this Vector Prime was substantially less interested in his reader's questions about who came from what specific reality, and at least once openly wondered about their [[List of universal streams|desire to categorize unimportant trivia]].<br /> <br /> {{quote|Would knowing the precise, specific plane of their origination give you more insight into them than their own words?}}<br /> <br /> He later promoted Axiom Nexus's new column, [[Transformers: Spacewarp's Log]], and was hacked by [[Cy-Kill (GoBots)|Cy-Kill]] to promote his pirate column, [[Renegade Rhetoric]].<br /> <br /> ===Contributors===<br /> {{quote|I just read the answers and slap some sense into you if you go '''Full Sorenson'''.|[[Jesse Wittenrich]], [[Fun Publications]] editor.}}<br /> <br /> The Facebook version of Ask Vector Prime is written by [[Jim Sorenson]] and edited by [[Jesse Wittenrich]]. Perhaps unsurprisingly for a column that's run for the better part of eight months (as of the end of December 2015), there are many additional contributors. &lt;ref&gt;https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153272529184902&amp;set=a.53930589901.64442.584094901&amp;type=1&amp;theater&lt;/ref&gt; They include: <br /> <br /> *Writers:<br /> {{collist|3|<br /> *[[Chris McFeely]]<br /> *[[User:Escargon|Alexis Carlo]]<br /> *[[Hirofumi Ichikawa]]<br /> *[[User:Monzo|Matthew Karpowich]]<br /> *[[James Roberts]]<br /> *[[Simon Furman]]<br /> *[[Glen Hallit]]<br /> *[[Dan Khanna]]<br /> *[[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|Louis Sun]]&lt;ref&gt;http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/116666-ask-vector-prime-axiom-nexus-news-on-facebook/?p=3041854&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Andrew Hall]]<br /> *[http://www.allspark.com/forums Allspark forum] user [http://www.allspark.com/forums/user/14624-gearshift/ Gearshift] &lt;ref&gt;https://www.facebook.com/AskVectorPrime/posts/727800610685245?comment_id=731054300359876&amp;offset=0&amp;total_comments=6&amp;comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *[[Trent Troop]]<br /> *[http://womenwriteaboutcomics.com/author/rachel-stevens-2/ Rachel Stevens]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> *Artists:<br /> {{collist|3|<br /> *Brandy Dixon<br /> *Betsy Blackie<br /> *[[Matt Kuphaldt]]<br /> *[[Bill Forster]]<br /> *[[Matthew Reinhart]]<br /> }}<br /> <br /> *Actors:<br /> {{collist|3|<br /> *[[Peter Spellos]]<br /> *[[Kellen Goff]]<br /> *[[Abby Collins]]<br /> *[[Daniel Ross]]<br /> *Marissa Meizel<br /> *[[David Sobolov]]<br /> *[[Jon Bailey]]<br /> *[[Richard Newman]]<br /> *Corina Boettger<br /> *Kelly Boyer<br /> *Sean Chiplock<br /> *Trent Martin<br /> *Shane Morrison<br /> *Penelope-Sophia Smith<br /> }}<br /> <br /> ===Notes===<br /> *As of [[July 16]], [[2015]], Ask Vector Prime had a total readership of 7,263 people.&lt;ref&gt;https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153272529184902&amp;set=a.53930589901.64442.584094901&amp;type=1&amp;theater&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> * Notably, Ask Vector Prime:<br /> ** Provided English translations for the names of the entire cast of ''[[Transformers Online]]''<br /> ** Invented names for pretty much every frigging [[Mini-Con]] team in existence<br /> ** Established some version(s) of the Thirteen as having visited Earth during the time of ancient [[Greece]] and inspiring/co-opting the legends of the {{w|Twelve Olympians}}, along with providing [[holomatter]] avatars for each of them<br /> ** Established the first female [[Optimus Prime (RID)#Spy Changer continuity|Optimus Prime]], as well as declared a [[Scorpia (G2)|large]] [[Nightcruz (RID)|number]] [[Major Altitude|of]] [[Windrazor (G1)|gender]]-[[Wedge Shape|undefined]] [[Mugen|characters]] [[Spacewarp|as]] [[Treadbolt|female]]<br /> ** Published [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]-style biocards for every toy-original ''Dark of the Moon'' human from [[Human Alliance]]<br /> ** Revealed the universe of origin of almost every character to participate in the [[Universe War]] (Soundwave, Space Case and Air Raid are the only ones whose universal origin wasn't revealed)<br /> ** Name-dropped every significant character and toy from ''[[GoBots]]'' and expanded on the ''{{w|Challenge of the Gobots}}'' cartoon considerably<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Ask Vector Prime/src|Ask Vector Prime archive at the Transformers Wiki]]<br /> *[[Ask Vector Prime/Facebook src|Ask Vector Prime Facebook archive at the Transformers Wiki]]<br /> *[[Ask Vector Prime/Sideways src|Ask Sideways Facebook archive at the Transformers Wiki]]<br /> *[[Ask Vector Prime/Guest column src|Guest column Facebook archive at the Transformers Wiki]]<br /> <br /> ==External links==<br /> *[https://www.facebook.com/AskVectorPrime Ask Vector Prime on Facebook]<br /> <br /> [[Category:Animated media]]<br /> [[Category:Cybertron media]]<br /> [[Category:TransTech media]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Crossblades&diff=1054900 2016-02-08T22:39:40Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Universe Oil Slick toy images */</p> <hr /> <div><br /> <br /> Hi, the images you're uploading to illustrate Ruination and Landfill are not really suitable, because they show the toys separate and in their packaging instead of assembled as the characters in question. We really prefer to have images of toys ''out'' of their packaging so they can be seen better. Also images should have better names than &quot;23293.jpg&quot; - please see our [[Transformers Wiki:Images|image policy page]] for more information. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:03, 28 May 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Yeah, we're looking for good photos that try to match the standards of our other photos (be they Hasbro/TakaraTomy stock photography, our own work or otherwise), rather than just any image of the subject that turns up on google image search. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:15, 28 May 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Your Energon Micromaster Protectobots image was useful! Though due to the nondescript filename, it had to be deleted and reuploaded under a new name. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:38, 28 May 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> I should ask: Where did you get the photos from? You are supposed to enter information when you upload images. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:23, 3 June 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Mostly through google searching and I just mash it into one image. Railbots and Aerialbots were from TFW2005.<br /> --[[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] 21:27, 3 June 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Ahh, well, in that case you would need to credit the site you found it on if it isn't a stock Hasbro photo. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:38, 3 June 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> {{tagyourpics}}<br /> And please try to upload images of a worthwhile size, and give them nice, descriptive filenames. [[Transformers Wiki:Images|The Image Policy page]] should be useful to you. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:19, 10 June 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I am pretty damn sure we did not come to a consensus yet on splitting Cryotek. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 18:58, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Well if you want to revert it back to the way it was, be my guest. Based on the original discussion, it seem everyone was in favor of a split once we got more info for RID Cryotek. And the latest AVP gave plenty of info on him that warranted it. By like I said, feel free to change it back - [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 19:05, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :And it seems that no one minds the split because it's been up for almost an hour now and no one has removed it. From my experience, when something gets edited that it's not supposed to, it gets undone immediately. [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]]<br /> ::It's because it's a goddamned complicated issue, is why, but you jumped the gun on it. Plus I don't personally really have the friggin' time while building every piece of IKEA furniture known to man to revert giant-ass changes to old articles done unilaterally without consensus. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 20:09, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::An ''hour''? Are you fucking kidding me? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:39, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Copy-pasting==<br /> Please don't copy-paste fiction for articles. The fact that you changed a few sentences here and there does not magically make that okay. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:36, 3 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Endo ==<br /> <br /> A character model is not a toy. Endo is not based on any particular toy, nor are there any toys that even look like him. Find better uses of your time other than stamping your feet whenever another user disagrees with you. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:43, 25 December 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> :Don't you think you should apply to your own advice? [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 14:15, 25 December 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Universe Oil Slick toy images ==<br /> <br /> It seems you uploaded [[:File:Universe Oil Slick toy.jpg|this]] image of the ''Universe'' Oil Slick toy. Were they stock images, or were they taken by you? -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:33, 8 February 2016 (EST)<br /> <br /> :They were from seibertron.com. I got 2 images one for robot mode another for vehicle mode and put the two together into one image. [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 17:38, 8 February 2016 (EST)</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Beta_Maxx_(RID)&diff=1054866 2016-02-08T21:00:35Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> {{disambig2|the ''Robots in Disguise'' Micromaster|the Unicron Trilogy Mini-Con|Beta Maxx (Armada)}}<br /> {{disambig3|Beta}}<br /> :''Beta Maxx is an [[Autobot]] [[Micromaster]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 Robots in Disguise]] [[continuity family]] (via a ''[[Transformers Timelines (franchise)|Timelines]] addition).''<br /> <br /> [[File:BetaMaxx ProfileArt.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|&quot;The battle is yours, VHS, but the war is far from over.&quot;]]<br /> '''Beta Maxx''', [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]]'s tiny, enigmatic companion, has dedicated himself to discovering the reason [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] life came into existence. He is presumed to have been created during the [[Golden Age]], though the identity of his creator is unknown. Beta Maxx was constructed with a vast data-storage capacity, and his spacecraft alt-mode can be used as a [[Key to Vector Sigma]]. He is the keeper of a secret codex that can translate ancient Cybertronian texts, and he can interface with many archaic computer systems.<br /> <br /> He can even use his alt-mode's side-cannon to beam massive amounts of raw data directly into an enemy's processors, to disabling effect. Unfortunately, his abilities can sometimes get the better of him, as taking in large amounts of data can leave him speaking in unintelligible [[Cybertronian language|ancient Cybertronian]]. Were he in battle at the time, he would find himself unable to communicate with his teammates. In such situations, however, his alt-mode's remarkable aerial maneuverability serves him well, and its front-mounted grenade pulse cannon can leave enemies quickly dismembered.<br /> <br /> He is considered a myth or legend among most Autobots, but to [[Shockwave (TransTech)|Shockwave]], he is instrumental in discovering the origin of [[Primus]] and [[Unicron]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.botcon.com/images/BetaMaxxProfile.pdf Beta Maxx's profile] in PDF form.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Beta Maxx escaped from the hellish reality [[Viron 704.31 Epsilon]]. [[Vector Prime]] disagreed that Beta Maxx was more impressive-looking than [[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 30/7/2015}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Timelines===<br /> [[File:TL BetaMaxx-toy.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Ha ha ha, you dumb bastard. It's not a schooner, it's a sailboat.]]<br /> * '''Alpha Trion'''/'''Weirdwolf''' (souvenir add-on, 2007)<br /> <br /> : A [[redeco]] of [[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|''Cybertron'']] [[Vector Prime]]'s partner [[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]], Beta Maxx transforms into a Cybertronic &quot;HI-TECH Star Schooner&quot; with a gunbarrel nosecone.<br /> <br /> : He was only made available in a bagged [[BotCon 2007]] [[exclusive]] souvenir set with [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] and [[Weirdwolf (G1)|Weirdwolf]], limited to 1400 pieces. <br /> <br /> : This toy was [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as Unicron Trilogy [[Beta Maxx (Armada)|Beta Maxx]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Mini-Con/BetaMaxx/betamaxx.htm More info on Beta Maxx at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Beta Maxx's name references the unsuccessful [[wikipedia:Betamax|Betamax]] video format of the early 1980s. <br /> *When he was first released at BotCon 2007, he was unnamed. His profile, distributed online some time later, was the first and only source of his name.<br /> *When Beta Maxx's profile first went online, his alternate mode was labeled as a &quot;HI-TECH StarZ Schooner&quot;. The current version of the profile has dropped the &quot;Z&quot;.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references /&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Category:BotCon exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Convention-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Micromasters]]<br /> [[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Timelines characters]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Beta_Maxx_(RID)&diff=1051561 2016-01-28T23:23:26Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> {{disambig2|the ''Robots in Disguise'' Micromaster|the Unicron Trilogy Mini-Con|Beta Maxx (Armada)}}<br /> {{disambig3|Beta}}<br /> :''Beta Maxx is an [[Autobot]] [[Micromaster]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 Robots in Disguise]] [[continuity family]] (via a ''[[Transformers Timelines (franchise)|Timelines]] addition).''<br /> <br /> [[File:BetaMaxx ProfileArt.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|&quot;The battle is yours, VHS, but the war is far from over.&quot;]]<br /> '''Beta Maxx''', [[Alpha Trion (disambiguation)|Alpha Trion]]'s tiny, enigmatic companion, has dedicated himself to discovering the reason [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] life came into existence. He is presumed to have been created during the [[Golden Age]], though the identity of his creator is unknown. Beta Maxx was constructed with a vast data-storage capacity, and his spacecraft alt-mode can be used as a [[Key to Vector Sigma]]. He is the keeper of a secret codex that can translate ancient Cybertronian texts, and he can interface with many archaic computer systems.<br /> <br /> He can even use his alt-mode's side-cannon to beam massive amounts of raw data directly into an enemy's processors, to disabling effect. Unfortunately, his abilities can sometimes get the better of him, as taking in large amounts of data can leave him speaking in unintelligible [[Cybertronian language|ancient Cybertronian]]. Were he in battle at the time, he would find himself unable to communicate with his teammates. In such situations, however, his alt-mode's remarkable aerial maneuverability serves him well, and its front-mounted grenade pulse cannon can leave enemies quickly dismembered.<br /> <br /> He is considered a myth or legend among most Autobots, but to [[Shockwave (disambiguation)|Shockwave]], he is instrumental in discovering the origin of [[Primus]] and [[Unicron]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.botcon.com/images/BetaMaxxProfile.pdf Beta Maxx's profile] in PDF form.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Beta Maxx escaped from the hellish reality [[Viron 704.31 Epsilon]]. [[Vector Prime]] disagreed that Beta Maxx was more impressive-looking than [[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 30/7/2015}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Timelines===<br /> [[File:TL BetaMaxx-toy.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Ha ha ha, you dumb bastard. It's not a schooner, it's a sailboat.]]<br /> * '''Alpha Trion'''/'''Weirdwolf''' (souvenir add-on, 2007)<br /> <br /> : A [[redeco]] of [[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|''Cybertron'']] [[Vector Prime]]'s partner [[Safeguard (Cybertron)|Safeguard]], Beta Maxx transforms into a Cybertronic &quot;HI-TECH Star Schooner&quot; with a gunbarrel nosecone.<br /> <br /> : He was only made available in a bagged [[BotCon 2007]] [[exclusive]] souvenir set with [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] and [[Weirdwolf (G1)|Weirdwolf]], limited to 1400 pieces. <br /> <br /> : This toy was [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as Unicron Trilogy [[Beta Maxx (Armada)|Beta Maxx]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Mini-Con/BetaMaxx/betamaxx.htm More info on Beta Maxx at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Beta Maxx's name references the unsuccessful [[wikipedia:Betamax|Betamax]] video format of the early 1980s. <br /> *When he was first released at BotCon 2007, he was unnamed. His profile, distributed online some time later, was the first and only source of his name.<br /> *When Beta Maxx's profile first went online, his alternate mode was labeled as a &quot;HI-TECH StarZ Schooner&quot;. The current version of the profile has dropped the &quot;Z&quot;.<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> &lt;references /&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Category:BotCon exclusives]]<br /> [[Category:Convention-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Micromasters]]<br /> [[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Timelines characters]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Crossblades&diff=1036378 2015-12-25T19:16:32Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Endo */</p> <hr /> <div><br /> <br /> Hi, the images you're uploading to illustrate Ruination and Landfill are not really suitable, because they show the toys separate and in their packaging instead of assembled as the characters in question. We really prefer to have images of toys ''out'' of their packaging so they can be seen better. Also images should have better names than &quot;23293.jpg&quot; - please see our [[Transformers Wiki:Images|image policy page]] for more information. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:03, 28 May 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Yeah, we're looking for good photos that try to match the standards of our other photos (be they Hasbro/TakaraTomy stock photography, our own work or otherwise), rather than just any image of the subject that turns up on google image search. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:15, 28 May 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Your Energon Micromaster Protectobots image was useful! Though due to the nondescript filename, it had to be deleted and reuploaded under a new name. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:38, 28 May 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> I should ask: Where did you get the photos from? You are supposed to enter information when you upload images. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:23, 3 June 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Mostly through google searching and I just mash it into one image. Railbots and Aerialbots were from TFW2005.<br /> --[[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] 21:27, 3 June 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Ahh, well, in that case you would need to credit the site you found it on if it isn't a stock Hasbro photo. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 21:38, 3 June 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> {{tagyourpics}}<br /> And please try to upload images of a worthwhile size, and give them nice, descriptive filenames. [[Transformers Wiki:Images|The Image Policy page]] should be useful to you. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:19, 10 June 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I am pretty damn sure we did not come to a consensus yet on splitting Cryotek. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 18:58, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Well if you want to revert it back to the way it was, be my guest. Based on the original discussion, it seem everyone was in favor of a split once we got more info for RID Cryotek. And the latest AVP gave plenty of info on him that warranted it. By like I said, feel free to change it back - [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 19:05, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :And it seems that no one minds the split because it's been up for almost an hour now and no one has removed it. From my experience, when something gets edited that it's not supposed to, it gets undone immediately. [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]]<br /> ::It's because it's a goddamned complicated issue, is why, but you jumped the gun on it. Plus I don't personally really have the friggin' time while building every piece of IKEA furniture known to man to revert giant-ass changes to old articles done unilaterally without consensus. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 20:09, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::An ''hour''? Are you fucking kidding me? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:39, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Copy-pasting==<br /> Please don't copy-paste fiction for articles. The fact that you changed a few sentences here and there does not magically make that okay. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:36, 3 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Endo ==<br /> <br /> A character model is not a toy. Endo is not based on any particular toy, nor are there any toys that even look like him. Find better uses of your time other than stamping your feet whenever another user disagrees with you. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:43, 25 December 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> :Don't you think you should apply to your own advice? [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 14:15, 25 December 2015 (EST)</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Endo&diff=1036355 2015-12-25T18:39:21Z

<p>Crossblades: So are you</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> :''Endo is an [[Autobot]] from the ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Subordinate.jpg|right|200px|thumb|We thought your friend died in the flames, turns out you're the one he blames!]]<br /> '''Endo''' does not question [[Sentinel Minor]]'s orders. His voice is gruff, and he doesn't rhyme, despite looking like a buff [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Armada'' cartoon===<br /> {{voiceactor|???}}<br /> <br /> Sentinel Minor and Endo were fetched by [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] after [[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]] became trapped under rubble in the middle of a raging inferno. As the three of them stood while looking at the flames, Endo told Hot Shot it was hopeless, and told him to forget about his friend. When Hot Shot tried to charge in anyway, Endo physically restrained him until Hot Shot managed to throw Endo aside. Sentinel Minor then punched Hot Shot to the ground, and stood with Endo while they looked at the flames for a while longer. {{storylink|Past}}<br /> <br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> [[Vector Prime]] met a version of Endo from the [[Aurex]] Cluster in [[Axiom Nexus]]. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> :''See: [[Wheelie (G1)#Toys]]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> * Endo went unnamed in the episode. His [[character model]] was recycled from [[Wheelie (G1)|Generation 1 Wheelie]]'s. He would receive his name years later through the Facebook version of [[Ask Vector Prime]]. <br /> * An endo is a maneuver where you stop a bike short and lift the back wheel off the ground. In other words, a reverse wheelie.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Armada Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]<br /> [[Category:TransTech Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Endo&diff=1036348 2015-12-25T16:40:37Z

<p>Crossblades: Read what repurposing means on this wiki. It clearly applies here</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot}}<br /> :''Endo is an [[Autobot]] from the ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Subordinate.jpg|right|200px|thumb|We thought your friend died in the flames, turns out you're the one he blames!]]<br /> '''Endo''' does not question [[Sentinel Minor]]'s orders. His voice is gruff, and he doesn't rhyme, despite looking like a buff [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''Armada'' cartoon===<br /> {{voiceactor|???}}<br /> <br /> Sentinel Minor and Endo were fetched by [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] after [[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]] became trapped under rubble in the middle of a raging inferno. As the three of them stood while looking at the flames, Endo told Hot Shot it was hopeless, and told him to forget about his friend. When Hot Shot tried to charge in anyway, Endo physically restrained him until Hot Shot managed to throw Endo aside. Sentinel Minor then punched Hot Shot to the ground, and stood with Endo while they looked at the flames for a while longer. {{storylink|Past}}<br /> <br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> [[Vector Prime]] met a version of Endo from the [[Aurex]] Cluster in [[Axiom Nexus]]. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> :''See: [[Wheelie (G1)#Toys]]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> * Endo went unnamed in the episode. His [[character model]] was recycled from [[Wheelie (G1)|Generation 1 Wheelie]]'s. He would receive his name years later through the Facebook version of [[Ask Vector Prime]]. <br /> * An endo is a maneuver where you stop a bike short and lift the back wheel off the ground. In other words, a reverse wheelie.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Armada Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]<br /> [[Category:TransTech Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Vehicon_(BM)&diff=1035982 2015-12-24T20:07:54Z

<p>Crossblades: Undo revision 1035977 by S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47 (talk)</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|vehicon}}<br /> {{disambig3|Vehicon}}<br /> :''The Vehicons are a faction from both the [[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]] and the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'']] [[continuity family]].''<br /> [[Image:Vehicon symbol.png|right|300px|thumb|Mindless. Obedient. Radioactive.]]<br /> <br /> The '''Vehicons''' are [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s personal army, a legion of military Transformers that allowed him to conquer planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and protect his one-robot empire from all threats. They pack lots of firepower and travel and attack ''en masse''.<br /> <br /> The overwhelming majority of Vehicons are unliving drones with no innate sentience or [[spark]]. Each Vehicon drone is usually controlled either directly by Megatron, or by a single sentient [[Vehicon general]] of the same (or similar) design. After the loss of [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] and [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]], their respective drones are apparently controlled by other generals.<br /> <br /> Vehicon drones are generally blindly obedient, with no sense of self-preservation. On rare occasions, various drones have appeared to use emotive body language, [[In Darkest Knight|shaking in apparent fear]] or [[Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral|pleading (wordlessly) not to be shot]]. On one occasion a [[Tank Drone]] was seen to [[The Weak Component|vocalize with Tankor's voice]].<br /> <br /> ==Drone types==<br /> *[[Aero Drone]]s, led by [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]<br /> *[[Copter Drone]]s, led by [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]<br /> *[[Heavy Artillery Drone]]s, led by [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]<br /> *[[Vehicon Mole|Mole Drones]]<br /> *[[Motorcycle Drone]]s, led by [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]<br /> *[[Tank Drone]]s, led by [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]]<br /> * [[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] drones<br /> * Jet drones, led by [[Spy Streak]]<br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] <br /> * Tank drones, led by [[Quake (G1)|Quake]]<br /> * Chase drones, modeled after [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Cartoon continuity===<br /> ====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====<br /> [[Image:Vehicons Fires of The Past.JPG|left|200px|thumb|This time, Tron isn't taking any prisoners!]]<br /> The Vehicons first appeared on Cybertron in the wake of the virus that devastated the planet's population. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}} Megatron created factories to recycle the discarded body shells of captured Transformers into more Vehicons; {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}} in this way, his army fed on its own success. Soon the planet was cleared of all Transformers except for Vehicons, who then patrolled its empty streets and skies.<br /> <br /> The drones attacked Optimus Primal's crew of Maximals when they crash-landed on the conquered planet, disabling them with gas canisters containing a [[transformation virus]]. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent}} and continued to harass them in the wake of the Maximals' reformatting. {{storylink|The Reformatting}} When this failed to destroy the techorganic Maximals, Megatron commissioned his first three Vehicon generals to oppose his old foes. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}}<br /> <br /> Even the three generals would ultimately prove ineffective against the Maximals. Tankor eventually betrayed Megatron and was destroyed. {{storylink|End of the Line}} Jetstorm was reformatted by the Maximals, and reverted to his original Silverbolt persona. {{storylink|In Darkest Knight}} Thrust, by contrast, remained loyal to the end.<br /> <br /> With his initial plan having met with failure, Megatron summoned up two more generals, and two new drone types as well. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike}} They did well, but Cheetor didn't like them so he shot 'em into space. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall}}<br /> <br /> It is not known what became of the Vehicon drones after the war against Megatron ended; however, it is not unreasonable to guess that they were reformatted into technorganic form along with the planet Cybertron itself, providing bodies for the newly-liberated sparks of Cybertron's population. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}<br /> <br /> ====3H comics====<br /> [[File:Cryotekcyclonusseries.jpg|upright=2.8|thumb]]<br /> <br /> Centuries after the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] was caught up in the Predacon [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s attack on all Cybertron. Despite Megatron's attempts to implant his spark within a Vehicon body, Cyclonus retained his own mind and managed to escape with the desire to restore the glorious Decepticon empire. Cyclonus had already been seduced by [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek's]] ambitions when he joined the [[Wrecker]]s in an attack where a horde of Vehicon drones, led by three all-new Generals, were unable to stop them from stealing an Autobot shuttle and blowing up the spaceport. {{storylink|Departure}}<br /> <br /> [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] attacked [[Primal Prime]]'s newly-arrived team of Maximals. He plunged [[Apelinq]] into the same transwarp portal that the team had come through. He was destroyed in transit. {{storylink|Apelinq's War Journals}}<br /> <br /> ===2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===<br /> After [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] took the credit for capturing [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], [[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]] exclaimed &quot;What are we? Vehicon drones?&quot;. {{storylink|Sideburn's Obsession}}<br /> <br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Just like in many [[Primax]] realities, a Spark War ensued in the future of [[Viron 102.0 Beta]], caused by a quantum orphan [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] from [[Primax 496.22 Alpha]] and his army of Vehicons. [[Mirage (RID)|Mirage]] was one of the victims of this war. However, he used the [[Genetronic Translink System]] to control a Vehicon body even while his spark was in enemy hands. After the defeat of Megatron, Mirage traveled back in time to guide the [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]] against [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===''Beast Machines''===<br /> [[Image:BM Blastcharge-toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Blastcharge]]<br /> [[Image:BM ultra Jetstorm toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Ultra Jetstorm]]<br /> [[Image:BM-toy Scavenger.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scavenger]]<br /> * '''Vehicons''' (1999-2000)<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] - Deluxe and Ultra<br /> ***[[Aero Drone|Sonic Attack Jet]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]] - Basic<br /> **[[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] - Basic<br /> **[[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]] - Basic<br /> **[[Spy Streak]] - Basic<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] - Mega<br /> ***[[Tank Drone]] - Basic<br /> **[[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] - Deluxe<br /> ***[[Motorcycle Drone]] - Basic<br /> <br /> :The Vehicons made up fully one half of the [[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|''Beast Machines'' toyline]]. They were the first new fully-vehicular Transformer toys since the end of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' in 1995, and the first to explore a Cybertronian aesthetic since Generation 1. Their vehicle forms are futuristic and military-themed. Most have a vehicle mode &quot;head&quot; analogue, allowing their vehicle form to look around. As robots, they sport unusually alien stylings and proportions. Some also sport unusual forms of locomotion, including legless hover modes and unicycle wheel bases. Most have a [[spark crystal]] located somewhere on their body.<br /> <br /> {{bigquote|These guys hover, walk, roll, crawl... the Vehicons are all about big guns, big firepower.|Hasbro rep at [[BotCon 1999]], on the upcoming Vehicon toys}}<br /> <br /> ===''Expanded Universe''===<br /> [[File:ExpandedUniversetoy-Cyclonus.jpg|150px|thumb]]<br /> *'''Cyclonus''' (Ultra, 2002)<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 missiles, 2 drone-missiles<br /> <br /> : ''[[Transformers: Expanded Universe|Expanded Universe]]'' Cyclonus is a redeco of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Jetstorm (BM)#Toys|Ultra Jetstorm]], replacing blue with lavender, purple and gray, and the yellows with red. His [[spark]] crystal was [[tampograph]]ed with a Decepticon sigil. He transforms into a Cybertronic fighter jet. His jet mode cockpit/neck is geared up with the pop-up gun turret on his back so that both turn in the same direction when moved. This turret has a light-up feature plus two spring-loaded missiles. Cyclonus has both a &quot;normal&quot; bipedal robot mode and a &quot;flight robot mode&quot; with pop-out thruster engines.<br /> <br /> : Cyclonus was available exclusively at [[BotCon 2002]].<br /> <br /> ===''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)===<br /> * '''Nightcruz / Mirage GT / Scavenger''' (Mega-level 3-pack, 2002)<br /> [[File:RID-toy MirageGT.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> : A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' Vehicon [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]], Mirage GT transforms into a Cybertronic dragster similar in shape to an F-1 racer. In both modes he has pair of pressure-launch tailpipe-missiles; in car mode they attach to his spoiler, while in robot mode one as affixed to each arm. The small blaster-weapon attached to his head can also be removed and used as a hand-held weapon. He was available only in a 3-pack with [[Nightcruz (RID)|Nightcruz]] and [[Scavenger (RID)|Scavenger]].<br /> <br /> : This set was released in Japan as a [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us|ToysЯUs]] [[exclusive]] &quot;[[USA Edition]]&quot; set on [[July 31]], 2002.<br /> <br /> : This mold was planned for use as a convention-[[exclusive]] version of [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]], which was ultimately never made.<br /> <br /> ===''Universe'' (2003)===<br /> [[File:Universe2003toy-TankorObsidian.jpg|right|200px|thumb]]<br /> * '''Decepticons''' (2003-2005)<br /> **[[Strika (BM)|Nemesis Strika]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]] - Deluxe<br /> **[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] &amp; [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] two-pack<br /> <br /> :A few ''Beast Machines'' Vehicon molds were repainted for the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line. However, they were labeled as [[Decepticons]] instead of Vehicons.<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Beast Machines]]<br /> [[Category:Drones]]<br /> [[Category:Factions]]<br /> [[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]<br /> [[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) subgroups]]<br /> [[Category:Vehicons| ]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Vehicon_(RID)&diff=1035981 2015-12-24T20:06:54Z

<p>Crossblades: Its completely pointless to have this page just because of one line made by Slapper.</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[Vehicon (BM)]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Cryotek_(RID)&diff=1035910 2015-12-24T00:13:50Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Splitting vote */</p> <hr /> <div>At some point, I need to rewrite this to adhere to the style guide. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Yes you do. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:52, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> Hey, you go fix Wideload the way he should be. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Cryotek's actual plan===<br /> <br /> All right. What was it? Okay, so we know from 3H that it would ultimately end up with the resurrection of Unicron blah blah blah, but... aside from that. He wants to send the Dinobots, the Mutants, and the Wreckers on fools errands. But the real Vector Sigma breaks through the Oracle and gives the Wreckers a REAL mission -- protecting the Divine Light. But... apparently that was Cryotek's true purpose all along? How does that work? Tengu, where are you? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :Cryotek's purpose was to claim the divine light, lead the Quintessons to Cybertron (whose reformation int he last episode of BM they were unaware of- they lsot contact witht he planet whwn the Oracle went offline) and betray thrm, using the Divine Light's ability to act as a 'fuse' through which to transfer Primus's power either directly into himself, or somehow to Unicron.<br /> <br /> :This fails for some reason,a nd the result ins INSTEAD that Primus himself comes online, as seen in TFU, instead of having to work through Vector Sigma. They got the fuse back the Quints pulled when they first invaded the nascent Cybertron, and so Primus can function again.<br /> <br /> ::That doesn't answer my question. If it was Cryotek's original purpose to claim the divine light, then why did Primus have to come online to *give the Wreckers different directions than otherwise intended*? The implication is that everyone was to be sent off-world into fools errands, but Vector Sigma broke through the Oracle to give the Wreckers their *real* mission, not the fake one. And yet, this was apparently Cryotek's plan from the beginnings, despite it all? It's a plot hole. Unless, I guess, Cryotek set up the whole &quot;Primus broke through and gave us a real mission&quot; thing, and it was his voice that was pretending to be Vector Sigma breaking through in the first place, putting on this charade for the benefit of the Wreckers. But that seems a little absurd. Why bother? Just give them their orders like the others. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : His plan was '''A BLOOH BLAH BALLLAHA BLOOOOOOOOOO!!!''' [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 03:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> I still don't 'see' the conenction between Cryotek and Unicron, bt it's clearly there- Wreckers even list shim as a minion of Unicron, so who knows? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> Why's he under RID? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 10:22, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> His toy was released as a RiD toy. However given that all his fiction is G1/BW/BM/TFU related it does seem odd. I just noticed it myself. It really isn't &quot;the continuity he's most associated with&quot; which I thought was the standard. I haven't looked do we have an entry for RiD Optimus Primal, or was his foray as a spirit guide for that Prime covered under BW? [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 10:29, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : Latter-day RiD segued into Universe (Fire Convoy preparing the Spychanger for a great comign threat, the foundign of the Interdimensional whosiswhatsis...)<br /> : I think can, maybe, say that BM Primalw as sent to RiD Prime to inform him of these coming threats we're just told he's preparing for?<br /> : (That's purely metatextual of course, like toy-continuity vs. show continuity, sicne I think RiD Prime started preparign after being kidnapped by Unicron during TFU #2 and subsequently beign returned home.)<br /> : If anything, this would be someting Primal did during his post-death pre-reincarnate state. He doesnt' mention it, but it doesnt' rule it out. (And even if it didnt' 'happen' for the Comic, that's where this piece of toy-continuity is suppsoed to fit.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> <br /> : We had a big discussion in the &quot;series tags&quot; a couple days back, but people seem to keep ignoring it, so it ended up being largely me and Steve-o. &quot;Toy-series of origin&quot; is the way of tagging that simply makes the most SENSE and is EASIEST. You &quot;common association&quot; is far too open to interpretation. Of course, I'm still waiting to see if the UT and BW and J-G1 characters should be broken up into sub-series for consistancy's sake, which, despite me liking how we emphasise the use of (UT), I think we SHOULD. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> : That seems awfully toy-specific for a CHARACTER DRIVEN WIKI! If they wanted toys they would go to TFU.info. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> :: Characters... WHO ARE BASED ON TOYS. Who are created TO SELL TOYS. Toys are the core of the damn franchise. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> ::And it's not like the information here is strictly the stuff you can already find on tfu.info....--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 20:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ===Spark drivers===<br /> In response to &quot;Who the fuck said that,&quot; the answer is &quot;[[Hasbro|HASBRO]].&quot; --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:44, 6 November 2006 (UTC)<br /> <br /> ==Decepticon symbol==<br /> There's a Decepticon symbol on Crytotek's left shoulder in Theft of the Golden Disk. Is he supposed to be a former Decepticon? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:09, 9 January 2008 (UTC)<br /> <br /> == Toy first or character first? ==<br /> <br /> If this is the wrong place to ask this, then I apologize. But I must at least ask. Did Cryotek originate as a redecoed figure of the TM2 Megatron first, or was he first conceived as a character in TF fiction?<br /> From what I can gather, his toy came out in late 2001 as a Target exclusive in the RiD toyline, and his first fictional appearance was in The Wreckers issue 2: Betrayal at BotCon 2002. <br /> <br /> ''However'', I wholeheartedly remember having once read a FAQ question regarding when/if Cryotek would be getting a toy release at all and if it would be a BotCon exclusive or not. The answer given said that it would be a Target exclusive in the RiD toyline, which did come to pass. Though, the way the question was asked implied that the nature of his character was already made known ahead of his toy's release date, which has me wondering if his persona was conceived ''and'' made known prior to the release of his toy.<br /> <br /> If I could ''find'' this old question it would greatly help me in trying to figure this out. I've been searching on the WayBack Machine's archives of BotCon.com and OTFCC.com, but have found nothing yet. Any assistance to figuring this out would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:16, 11 March 2011 (EST)<br /> : If you read the Notes section to this page, you would know exactly all about how we knew about him prior to his release date. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:00, 12 March 2011 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==RID vs G1==<br /> Does there need to be a RID Cryotek specifically separate from G1? There does, right? And that would mean that this guy would need to move somewhere else, probably Cryotek (G1). Someone double check this before I start doing stuff, I often seem to be on the wrong side of these universe naming and moves. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 20:30, 22 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> :I believe Cryotek was just one of a bunch of toys that were meant to be released earlier, but were pushed back into the RID toyline for reasons. The big Beast Machines Optimal Primal toy was released in this line too, but I'm pretty sure we're not going to pretend that he's a separate character either. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 20:34, 22 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Right, I was only asking because [[Ask Vector Prime]] today had the Robots in Disguise [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] encountering Cryotek. I'm fine with just putting that info here. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 20:36, 22 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Ah, nertz. I hadn't gotten around to check AVP today. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 20:41, 22 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::I guess I'm just not getting something. There needs to be two ships named Longbow, one for Cybertron and one for RID, but we're ok with having just one Cryotek across G1 &amp; RID? If there's a logic here I'm not seeing it. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 00:12, 23 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::I thought you were referring to the fact that Cryotek was a RID toy as basis for splitting him off. With the info from AVP, I have no arguments against making a separate page for RID Cryotek. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 00:17, 23 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::I'm all for splitting a page for RID Cryotek. However, I think we should wait to see if AVP clarifies anything on RID Cryotek. The post almost sounds to me like it's Primax 797.18 Epsilon Cryotek who has escaped the formless dimension into Viron 903.0 Beta. After all, it's big hero JG1 Optimus Primal/Convoy who's pursuing him. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:29, 23 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Sounds reasonable, considering that AVP doesn't seem like it'll be around for much longer. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 00:31, 23 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Waiting to see if we learn more makes a ton of sense to me. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 09:05, 23 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::::::::In any case, even if there isn't a page split, can we consider making an exception to the disambiguate-by-franchise-rather-than-continuity-family rule? It works in most case, but I think here it only serves to confuse things; maybe moving if to Cryotek (BW) or Cryotek (G1) would be better? --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 02:49, 23 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::I don't think it's especially confusing, and I'd really rather not open up those floodgates. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 04:09, 23 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::Well, I found it particularly confusing when I first found the wiki, and I'm not sure what floodgates it would open - as far as I know, the only comparable situation (i.e. characters from one continuity family being first released as part of another family's franchise) would be a few DOTM Mini-Cons, etc? I feel like it's similar to how Animated Timelines characters would, IIRC, be disambiguated to &quot;Animated&quot; rather than &quot;Timelines&quot; back when the wiki still used (Timelines). Sorry, I'm rambling - what I'm trying to say is that it ''did'' confuse me as a casual fan, and given the recent increased focus on being accessible to casual fans... --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 05:12, 23 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::::It's just a case of cracks starting to appear in our organization scheme. When we started this, at the end of the Unicron Trilogy era, characters across different universe were pretty distinct. There were very few &quot;lore&quot; characters, and we'd just lived through four years of repeated &quot;nameslaps&quot; where Ironhide could be a female Mini-Con and a punk rookie Autobot. Post-movie, as characters become more consistent across the spectrum of Transformers stories, and many names now hold ''meaning'', some of these delineations grow to feel quite pointless. Knock Out, for instance, really is exactly the same character across the Prime cartoon and IDW comics, he just calls a different planet home. I think it's quite clear that AVP has been poking that particular bear of late, with it's Micromaster/Mini-Con/Cyberdroid analogues, or that answer from just the other day about an Aurex Hi-Q and Arcana. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 06:11, 23 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::::oh hey remember when we came to a consensus to move this page OH WAIT --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 18:57, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::::::Revert please. Also, I wouldn't say &quot;cracks just appeared&quot; since this was all done on purpose by human agency to write new facts directly for the wiki but whatever we've been over that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:39, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::::::::::apparently there have been too many intermediate edits and I CAN'T just revert it. Or maybe there's some trick I'm forgetting. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 22:01, 1 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::::::::::Ok, consensus is RID and G1 Cryotek are close enough to live on the same page? Works for me. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 00:44, 2 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Cryotek_%28G1%29 Discussion from Cryotek (G1)]<br /> <br /> I'm sorry, I'm going to be a little anal about my understanding of this wiki. Under the current policy, I can't wrap my head around combining characters from RID and Beast Machines onto one page. The Cryotek from Vector Prime's story is a RID character. (The story gives no indication otherwise.) If that policy ever changes, that's fine. But this isolated incident of Cryoteks from two continuity families on one page is weird. I understand the ideas of cross-franchise characters being very similar and the desire to keep them together, but that requires a significant reorganization of the wiki en masse. This helter skelter fashion of changing the status quo is not a great idea. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] ([[User talk:Crockalley|talk]]) 00:55, 3 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yeah, I'm going to open this can of worms again. [http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/101932-tfwikinet-thread-30/?p=3064808 As I pointed out on the Allspark], there's not really any good reason to have this page merged that wouldn't require a major reexamination of the wiki's rules, other than &quot;this is stupid and I don't want to acknowledge it&quot;. I'd also like to point out that as of the Optimus Primal answer Viron Cryotek doesn't have that much in common with Primax Cryotek (criminal mastermind vs genocidal scientist), and that the previous consensus seemed to be less &quot;this shouldn't have been split/moved&quot; and more &quot;this shouldn't have been split/moved without discussion&quot;. So... can we discuss this some more? --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 13:42, 29 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::I suppose I could support this idea. But I point out that Primax Cryotek was also a scientist just like Viron Cryotek. And for all intents and purposes they share their only toys, do they not? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:22, 29 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::True, I suppose; I more meant that Viron Cryotek doesn't have the criminal/gangster element central to most portrayals of Cryotek. I guess the idea behind writing Viron Cryotek and RID Jhiaxus into Ask Vector Prime was to, essentially, retroactively make those toys' use as G1 characters into &quot;repurposings&quot;? Not to deliberately fuck with the wiki's classification system, as some have suggested. So yeah, they share toys. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 15:00, 29 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::Well yeah, I think the main intent was to give portrayals that matched the toys' actual packaging. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:40, 29 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I've been sandboxing something that this might be a good test case for. A formal write-up of the idea of a character that exists in multiple continuity-families at the same time. [[User:Giggidy/Sandbox/Multi-Family Character]]. Perhaps Cryotek would be a good test case to start rolling it out? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 17:40, 29 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> :I just honestly think that based on what information on Viron Cryotek we have, he's not all that similar to Primax Cryotek... well, okay, he's about as similar as cartoon and comic Shockwave, but they're kind of extremes anyway. I don't think this is the best point for an &quot;exception&quot; to be made. I guess I could tolerate it, but I think a better starting point would be [[Knock Out (G1)]] and [[Knock Out (Prime)]], who a) have major appearances in both clusters, and b) are much closer to being the same character archetype. Others seem to disagree, but I feel that the Cryoteks don't share much more than the name and the toy. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 17:45, 29 October 2015 (EDT)<br /> Is there any more momentum to split this page? If not, I'm removing the move tag within the next 48 hours. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 11:57, 21 December 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> I'll lay out the facts as I see them:<br /> * Viron Cryotek is differently-characterised to Primax Cryotek and exists in a different continuity family; he looks the same, but see [[Bulkhead (G1)]]. In most cases, this would be enough for each character to get their own page.<br /> * Nobody objected to [[Jhiaxus (RID)]] being given a page, which suggests that the objection is less about the characters being the same and more about the fact that the page, if split, would have to be renamed.<br /> * There ''hasn't actually been any reason given'' to have the pages merged and the rules bent, other than &quot;this is stupid, and it's an attack on our classification system.<br /> * Which, as I said, I don't think it is - it's making the RID Cryotek toy into an RID character. Much like, say, DOTM Bulkhead or Prime Evac, who are Prime Bulkhead and Ride Evac made into &quot;their own characters&quot; because they were in the DOTM and Prime lines.<br /> * If split, then, the pages would either go under &quot;Cryotek (RID)&quot; and &quot;Cryotek (AVP)&quot; (treating the AVP guy as a new character), or &quot;Cryotek (Universe)&quot; and &quot;Cryotek (RID)&quot; (treating the AVP guy as the &quot;real&quot; identity of the toy and the Primax character as a &quot;repurpose&quot;). I'd vote for the latter, because the former seems ''really'' confusing.<br /> If anyone could actually give a ''reason'' to not split, I'd probably be open to the idea, but as-is it seems like it's only merged because people don't want the existing page to be moved. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 13:08, 21 December 2015 (EST)<br /> :I'm of the opinion that most RID dudes should just be folded into their G1 counterparts (or vice versa, whatever), because the distinction between Viron and Primax is pointless, but as long as we're keeping stuff like Jhiaxus (RID) or Sky-Byte (G2), this should be split into Cryotek (RID) with Cryotek (BM) as the repurpose. Which is what would've happened had the comics came about during the wiki's life instead of prior. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:36, 21 December 2015 (EST)<br /> :If we are being objective, RipTide is right, as the rules stand now, this needs a split, if we want to debate the nature of the rules and how they are affected by the Families that is something we will have to bring up later (I think the central thesis is whether we split based on fiction [i.e. This is a guy from Animated vs a guy from Prime] or based on character [i.e. this guy is a doctor , this guy is a girl and a minicon]) I ''personally'' was under the assumption of the former(partially because it would lead to frankly arbitrary declarations of how close to each other portrayals are, and arbitray declarations are something a bastion of information like us should not do [this is also why I was against Battlemasters characters being ''best fit'' into families] but it seems to me that those splits until recently lined up and now it's becoming less murky as charcaters are becoming closer and closer, there have been talks on why IDW and Prime Knockout are separate, and Hi-Q being on page, which frankly I found absurd, but that's only because of the aforementioned assumption that we split based on fiction, not on how &quot;similar&quot; characters are to each other.<br /> <br /> TLDR: Until we settle the issue of whether we merge characters based on being similar or being in the same family; something that tended to be one in the same until now, we have to go by the current rules, and as I understand them we have a G1 Cryotek under Crytek(RID) and an RID Cryotek under (AVP).<br /> <br /> Otherwise we continue a habit of cherry picking and dancing around our policies when it suits us, instead of actually dressing our polices. <br /> <br /> And what good is a system if we can just go...nah I dont like this, when it doesn't fit what we want? Under our rules IDW is G1,(originally because it was &quot;Under the g1 franchise&quot; as the Continuity Family page says and then later when it was named Primax almost certainly because of this wiki saying it was g1) I of course feel that is total bullshit, but that is what it is, and me and others who feel that way cant just make it not G1 by saying it's silly and stupid on the talk page. In any case this is going to keep happening and this pothole method isn't holding up.<br /> <br /> Perhaps a Community Vote(even though I am pretty sure it's just an open and shut case where we personally feel the policy [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 22:51, 21 December 2015 (EST)<br /> :If a split were to happen, I can certainly say for sure that if any Primax Cryotek page were to be created separately from Viron Cryotek, said Primax page would definitely have a &quot;(Universe)&quot; disambiguation tag since the guy debuted in Universe fiction. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:17, 22 December 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Splitting vote ==<br /> <br /> Seems like now's as good a time as any to put it to the question. Obviously, I vote to split. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:24, 23 December 2015 (EST)<br /> :I agree. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 18:31, 23 December 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> I vote no split. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 18:37, 23 December 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> Split. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 18:44, 23 December 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> Split, please. --[[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 19:13, 23 December 2015 (EST)</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimsorenson&diff=1033422 2015-12-15T00:08:23Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Universe Soundwave and Space Case */</p> <hr /> <div>== Downtimes ==<br /> <br /> Hey, Jim. I moved your comment [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Leaving2#Site-up_issues|here]] to join its friends.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 17:34, 5 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == BW Models ==<br /> <br /> Finished the scanning tonight. Expect an e-mail some time tomorrow. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:17, 13 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Well, awesome! Thank you, I'm looking forward to seeing the models. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:06, 13 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Cybertronix alphabets ==<br /> <br /> Can I ask how you made the [[:Image:Maximal Language.jpg]] and [[:Image:Predacon Language.jpg]] pics? They might [[:wikipedia:Template:BadJPEG|be better off without JPEG compression]], if possible... --[[User:Fleb|fleb]] 17:53, 8 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> : I think I just typed them out and took a screen capture. You're welcome to grab the fonts and take a better pic. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:09, 8 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Letters Page ==<br /> <br /> Hey Jim, you've researched the UK letters pages since I love my notes on them... do you remember whereabout they talk about the US timeline, Time Wars etc being a new universe? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:16, 20 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Oh, geeze. Ummm ... very late in the game, from what I recall. Dreadwing probably, not quite Blaster yet. Beyond that, I don't think I can help you. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:24, 20 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Hrm...<br /> ::Also I ''might'' be wrong on this... but I think that the BK Transformers site is using your fonts. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:45, 22 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::They sure are! Awesomesauce! Thanks for the heads up. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:58, 22 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [[Cyberglyphics]] ==<br /> [[Image:B4tasv2 numerals.png|right|]]<br /> [[Image:Allspark chars.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> Hey, just wondered if you'd be interested in helping on the article. I'm going to have a bunch of time over the holiday weekend, so I hope to get most of the character set transcribed and uploaded as a PDF file. I can also shoot you the Illustrator file when I'm done if you'd like. With a little luck, maybe we can make sense of this and turn it into a good resource for the wiki. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 14:13, 30 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Happily. Cyberglyphics are beautiful, and I'd love to see them get some love. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:16, 30 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::PDF now uploaded [[:Image:Cyberglyphics reference.pdf|here]]. Those are all the glyphs I've found so far. Lemme know if you need the original Illustrator file.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 22:57, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::Some of the glyphs have also been associated with numbers, and a handful of them are used for an (incomplete) substitution-cipher in a coloring book. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:59, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::::If there are more I don't have in that file, I'd love to see examples so I can add them in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 23:02, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::::I should dig out the coloring book too... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:55, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Aha! I ''knew'' there had to be more than just the ten of these things. I'll get those integrated tomorrow.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:02, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::::::And added to the PDF. Oh, how I wish they didn't put that inane effect on them to make them look &quot;ancient.&quot; It makes them harder to eyeball.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:18, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Yet more. ;-) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:37, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Hmm. ''Some'' of those are new, yet some of them are repeats. I have to wonder how many symbols we'll have when we've catalogued them all.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:43, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> Actually, I just realized that an NDA I signed makes me working on these a dicey proposition at best. Better for me to err on the safe side and bow out. I'm still quite keen to see what you guys make of them, but I don't think I can be involved.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:06, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :That's fair enough, Jim. Thanks for the consideration, at least!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 23:07, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == More Fonts ==<br /> <br /> Thought you might want to know-- Decepticon Regular shows up in the Revenge of the Fallen X-Box/PS3 game. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:59, 14 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Awesome! I'm everywhere I want to be! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:41, 14 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Quiz ==<br /> <br /> Just goofing around - [http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/quiz/results?q=1472784&amp;lsrc=ntqofb&amp;flow=quiz Transformers quiz]. Probably easysauce for anyone here though.<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> I just wanted to say thank you for the kind words you send us the seibs News Crew per e-mail! Your updates are very much appreciated.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 08:06, 29 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Well, I appreciate the traffic you throw my way, and the good job you guys do of keeping me up to date. I've got your RSS feed up on my blog so that I can stay abreast of the latest TF news. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:19, 29 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::One hand washes the other. :D[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 13:29, 29 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for telling me this. I just ran across the Star Wars pages and wanted to add the species. I didn't know that that was against the outside sources policy. I think General Grievous is still marked as a Kaleesh however. {{unsigned|Kaymac192}}<br /> :No problem. I just didn't want you to think that people were picking on you because you were new or anything like that. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:56, 19 August 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == This must be made ==<br /> <br /> If IDW is up to it, it would be awesome if you and bill could put together an Ark-like tome of boxart, especially the stuff from G1 to Beast Wars. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:32, 27 August 2009 (EDT)<br /> :All things are possible ... -[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:49, 27 August 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Harrier Starscream ==<br /> <br /> Damn. True. Forgot about it. Anyway, sorry for being so fussy, but there should be capital &quot;H&quot;. &quot;jump jet&quot; (= Harrier) - lowcase, &quot;Harrier&quot; - uppercase.<br /> <br /> Seems like Starscream's certainly not an expert when it comes to human technology... -- [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 09:45, 6 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == WOW ==<br /> <br /> omg, i cant believe Jim Sorenson has an account here! Im such a huge fan! right now im saving up to buy the allspark almanac at The Forbidden Planet! --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.160.72|92.238.160.72]] 14:27, 14 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Well, I hope you enjoy it! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:38, 14 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Oh I Bet i will! Its basically the ark, only coloured in and animated! --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.160.72|92.238.160.72]] 14:40, 14 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Cybertron caps ==<br /> <br /> Are these [[:Image:Cyb13 telemetry1.jpg|the]] [[:Image:Cyb13 telemetry2.jpg|two]] you're after? I'm afraid they're not particularly clear - this is as big as they get. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:16, 19 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Yup, those're the two. Thanks! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 20:22, 19 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Revenge ==<br /> <br /> Since I don't have [[Transformers: The Complete Ark|The Complete Ark]], can you confirm [[Revenge (G1)|this]] for me and a few other editors? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:12, 10 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Yes, that's in there. It came from one of the original designers. I asked if the ship (and the ship at the end of MtMtE) had a name in the original model sheets. It didn't, but he spoke about what he would have called it if it were up to him. I figured that was good enough to mention in the book. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 19:29, 10 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Greetingz-z-z-z!==<br /> Waz-z-z-zpinator greetz-z-z! I'm glad to find z-z-z-zo much comradez-z-z-z here! Well, your questionz-z-z - my answerz-z-z (or vice verz-z-za) on every theme!--[[User:He-l-en1959|He-l-en1959]] 15:50, 30 November 2009 (EST)<br /> == Quez-z-ztion ==<br /> I pray, can you write the whole text of &quot;The Tranz-z-zformerz-z-z&quot; z-z-zong (&quot;Transformers, robots in disguise…&quot;) to me? Or tell me where can I find the text, pleaz-z-ze!--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 12:25, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Seeker==<br /> <br /> Does Ramjet using the term Seeker in the Almanac mean the group is technically referred to as such? [[User:Eire]] 01.15 Jan 04 2010 (UTC)<br /> : You probably want his user page, not his article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:02, 3 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::I'll leave that as an exercise to the readers. What he says is &quot;[Thundercracker is] the original Starscream. All of us seekers were cloned from him.&quot;--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:22, 3 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Well, he's a liar, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 3 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Lion's share ==<br /> <br /> In the source fable, the lion took all of the available food; thus the &quot;lion's share&quot; means ALL of something. However, it is often misused to mean the greatest part. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:10, 23 February 2010 (EST)<br /> :You say ''mis''used, I say used. Language is an evolving shared construct, and that today the meaning has changed. However, you're absolutely right about the historic origins of the phrase.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:28, 23 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Sentinel Prime==<br /> {{note|This conversation was moved to [[Talk:Sentinel Prime (G1)#Sentinel Prime]].}}<br /> <br /> == Anagrams ==<br /> <br /> I was just looking at the Almanac Annotations, and saw a section labeled &quot;Unsolved Anagrams&quot; with a listing for a &quot;Baron Ye Gult&quot;. I don't know if the list has been updated lately or if this anagram has been solved, but I was wondering if it was perhaps supposed to be &quot;Tonya Bulger&quot;? Don't know who she is, but it seems a possible name. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:06, 27 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :You'd have to ask Bill, those were his. He does have a [http://www.formspring.me/BillForster Formspring], though. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:08, 27 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Sorry, looked at the note wrong. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:12, 27 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Dalek ==<br /> <br /> About the Dalek thing, I was hoping to add it on because that what a Dalek is. I thought we didn't have to not &quot;know&quot; what a Dalek is, and we can tell someone who doesn't know what a Dalek is what it is. That was for people who just saw the picture of the Dalek next to &quot;Go&quot; should I just leave that stuff for the original wikipedia?[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 19:54, 5 September 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Junkion name request==<br /> I've been trying to write/writing several pages for the various Junkion characters, but since I don't own a copy of ''The Complete Ark'', I have no clue what name belongs to what model. I was hoping someone would move them for me, but since that's not happening auto, I am asking around for someone to be so kind. So, would you be so kind to move those pages to their proper title for me?<br /> Which reminds me, there's certain information I'd like to see added to the Character model page or ''The Ark'' pages I figure only you could add. How are character model sheets treated during the (post-)production process? Where do they go once they aren't needed anymore. Is there any reason to why some &quot;get lost&quot; and others don't? How come they apparently had access to Lithone models from the movie to fill up the BBo2006 Junkion crowd, but not to Junkion models? Pretty much the technical lifestory of character model sheets. I would like to learn more about that, and I think it would be interesting to others too. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:32, 17 November 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Animated Arcee's Season 3 models ==<br /> <br /> Do you have larger versions of Arcee's season three models? The front and back ones in the Almanac 2 are pretty small, and I can't find her altmode anywhere. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 01:04, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> :What do you need them for? Also, there is no altmode model for her. She never transformed in the show, so they never drew one.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:30, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> ::I don't really need them, but was just wanting a better look at them. (Possibly as an extra on your blog :P) --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:30, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Almanac ==<br /> <br /> Where do you buy the Almanacs?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 16:53, 24 March 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Amazon, I believe. There's a link on his user page. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:07, 24 March 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Or any bookstore or comic book shop that's willing to order it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:42, 24 March 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Pictures on [[army-building]] ==<br /> <br /> The photos on the army building page which you added back in 2008, did you take those yourself or were they sourced from somewhere? I'm just looking to retag some of them with descriptions, since the original descriptions were lost in the bookworm crash. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:49, 9 February 2012 (EST)<br /> :I took them myself. I'm big into army-building.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 19:00, 9 February 2012 (EST)<br /> ::Groovy, thanks! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:04, 9 February 2012 (EST)<br /> <br /> == TFA Optimus Prime ==<br /> <br /> So you shan't reveal whether or not he was to become supreme commander in the end, hmm?--[[User:Autotrooper42|Autotrooper42]] 18:15, 2 March 2012 (EST)<br /> : I shared what Marty &amp; Matt &amp; Derrick shared with me. I don't know what they intended to be the secret of Sari or the ultimate disposition of Optimus &amp; Sentinel and it isn't my place to make up an answer.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:41, 2 March 2012 (EST)<br /> ::That place belongs to FunPub! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:30, 2 March 2012 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Alt2day.com ==<br /> <br /> For the past year, I haven't got the site to work for me, any idea why? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:57, 25 June 2013 (EDT)<br /> :Well, it was a little viral marketing site for a book that's been out for several years now. A friend was hosting it for me... it's possible he stopped devoting the bandwidth for it.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:28, 25 June 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::It was the dynyds version, and it did that once before, from January to August of 2011. It's been out now for so long. Maybe you can talk to this friend of your's? Just asking, that's all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 23:33, 25 June 2013 (EDT)<br /> Hey, um, have you learned anything about it since I asked you? Just wanted to know. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 20:19, 31 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::Haven't heard one way or the other, sorry.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:49, 5 September 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah well, thanks for responding. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 17:52, 5 September 2013 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Box art book? ==<br /> <br /> haven't heard about this for a while; is it still a thing, or did it fizzle out? [[User:Spork|Spork]] 18:42, 20 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> :Still a thing. It's looking like mid 2014, to tie in with the movie. It's a big subject matter, with appropriately large physical dimensions including pagecount. That means a high price tag. To mitigate that risk, IDW is timing it to maximize sales. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:45, 20 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> :::Cool! By the way, is it g1/g2 only, or more comprehensive than that? Now if IDW would just put out an officially translated set of the Japanese g1 comics, I can die in peace...<br /> ::::G1/G2/Japanese/Bonus Material.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 00:44, 21 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> <br /> If you're still searching for the artwork, i have Action Master Bumblebee's card and the box for an Action Master Sprocket (what do you mean &quot;both&quot;? the only Sprockets on TFWiki seem to be G1 and Shattered Glass, and only one of those even HAS a toy to have any packaging art). Hopefully i can scan what i have and e-mail you soon.<br /> [[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 01:20, 29 October 2013 (EDT)<br /> :Hey there, Rhymus. Do you literally mean the actual card, or do you have the card art? Generally scans from the packages themselves have been too low resolution for us to work with. Mostly we're working with one of three things: original artwork, photo negatives of the original artwork used for archival, or first generation chrome positives (transparencies) of the first generation artwork used for advertising production. Do you have one of these? <br /> :<br /> :(By 'both' I mean both Sprocket's individual robot form, and him riding in his car.)--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:38, 29 October 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::Sorry, i only have the packaging. Somewhere. Guess i can stop looking for it. [[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 20:06, 4 November 2013 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Beast Wars: Uprising characters ==<br /> <br /> If I may ask, are the Decepticon Builder [[Zoom Out]] and Autobot Builder [[Override (BW)|Override]] in &quot;[[Broken Windshields]]&quot; based in any way on 2007 movie [[Zoom Out 25X]] and 2010 toyline/movieverse [[Override (TF 2010)|Override]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:52, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> :It's definitely Real Gear Robot Zoom Out for Zoom Out, but Override is based on her Cybertron character. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:59, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Correct.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 15:16, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Thanks! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::By the way, was [[Override (BW)|Override]]'s appearance in &quot;Broken Windshields&quot; based on any specific toy of her ''Cybertron'' counterpart? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:22, 12 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::In my brain she kind of [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/Override/override.htm looks like this], only, you know, hardwired into an arena and all sort of creepy and pathetic.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 16:34, 12 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Gotcha. Thank you, Jim! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 18:52, 12 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> Why is it that thus far in ''Beast Wars: Uprising'', [[Night Viper]] has been a Predacon when all his previous appearances and his sole, mainstream toy have been Maximal? Is it a reference to something? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:54, 7 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yup, referencing Hasbro's original plans to have him be a Predacon who hooked up with Primal's crew of Maximal resistance after Megatron took over the planet. Not sure why they changed that, perhaps too complicated to work into the packaging bio. I always thought it was a neat idea and had that in the back of my head when building out the Predacon team.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 17:48, 7 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Rook page character ==<br /> <br /> If I am correct in understanding that you are the author of &quot;[[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist]]&quot;, is the criminal profiler Torca the Beast Era one or a new Transcendent Technomorph version? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:24, 10 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Sorry, I'm one member of a team working on that page, and I didn't write the post in question.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 01:02, 11 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == You ==<br /> So, you really are the Jim Sorenson. Did you worked at Marvel? I think I remember seeing your name in a Marvel related site.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:12, 20 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :I'm really *A* Jim Sorenson. I am THIS [[Jim Sorenson]]. I don't think I've done any work for Marvel, but I've done plenty for [[Fun Publications]] and [[IDW Publishing]]. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 09:05, 21 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Oh, sorry, my bad.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 23:10, 26 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Also, the title is a bit weird, sorry lol.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 10:10, 27 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::Also, these Universal Stream things is awesome, I like alternate universe stories, you're a genius.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 07:20, 28 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::Thanks. Glad that you're enjoying them. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:35, 28 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Child of Primus Whirl ==<br /> <br /> Where has it ever been said that Child of Primus Whirl comes from Aurex 405.0 Epsilon like King Atlas? Both King Atlas and a Whirl are in the Cauldron in &quot;[[Escape (Universe)|Escape]]&quot; but &quot;[[Force of Habit]]&quot; shows King Atlas's subordinate Whirl as one of the last survivors on Combatron after King Atlas's disappearance. I can believe that Whirl was abducted later but where in fiction has that ever been said? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:17, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :&quot;[[Force of Habit]]&quot; showed that both King Atlas and Whirl come from the planet [[Combatron (planet)|Combatron]], which is in the ''Cybertron'' cartoon Club fiction continuity (Aurex 405.0 Epsilon). --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 14:29, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah, so, you're thinking that it's a DIFFERENT Whirl? Possible I suppose. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:33, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Well I'm just saying that we've never seen FunPub Cybertron Whirl ever getting abducted. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:33, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::I'm sold. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:35, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> While we're on the subject of the Children of Primus, I would like to ask you for a little help if possible. You see, the reason I put Dreadwind and Smokejumper on the Children of Primus list is because their pages were tagged as Children of Primus since before I joined the wiki this year. I saw from G1 Sunstorm page that his profile in the sole 3H [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1|club magazine issue]] marked him as Child of Primus, and I deduced that the other guys with profiles in the magazine must all have had Children/Minion affiliations listed. Same with the guys with profiles in ''The Wreckers'' #2 &quot;[[Betrayal]]&quot; director's cut. All of their profiles in that issue seem to mark them as Children/Minions despite them not appearing in the main ''Universe'' comic. If you or anyone you know has the original publications, could you check them? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 17:29, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yeah, ok, dug out my old issues. Sure 'nuff, that's where it's from. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 21:31, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Thank you. And if I may ask, can Dreadwind and Smokejumper's profiles in the 3H club magazine retroactively be assigned to their RID or Armada incarnations? And what about the profile for Sam's Club Optimus Prime? The wiki's page for [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] cites the profile in saying that as a member of the Dimensional Patrol, he was abducted along with Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus, but Side Burn is not among the escapees in [[:File:TFUjailbreak.jpg|the jailbreak scene in &quot;Escape&quot;]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:31, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Nothing in Dreadwind or Smokejumper incarnations specifies where they might be from. Sam's Club Optimus is definitely a Robots in Disguise bot, with explicit reference to capturing Galvatron and delivering him to Cybertron. After this, he studied &quot;xeno-biological ecosystems throughout the universe&quot; until &quot;evil threatened the temporal and spacial nexus located near the planet Earth,&quot; whereupon he rejoined his comrades on Earth and founded the Dimensional Patrol, &quot;a team of transwarp specialsts and rnowned warriors from the Autobot ranks.&quot; No mention is given as to who's on the team. It's definitely pre-Universe, as Unicron grabbed him and other members of the Dimensional Patrol to participate in the Universe War. <br /> :::Tell you what... you make a skeleton page for the Dimensional Patrol, I'll fill in the details.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 00:42, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::Gotcha. And I'm going to go with Armada for Children of Primus Dreadwind and Smokejumper because the profiles are in the same issue as the MegaWing Galvatron instructions and because RID Dreadwind and Smokejumper are not among the Shell Game Decepticons mentioned in Ask Vector Prime. And I'll take off the Dimensional Patrol detail from Side Burn's page because he's not mentioned in the Sam's Club Optimus profile. And also because a regular colored one, plausibly the cartoon one, appeared freshly abducted in the 2004 OTFCC voice actor play. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:51, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::Good, I was going to suggest you remove that from Side Burn, since it's a reasonable inference (perhaps as a note), but not definite. BTW, is there some way I could chat with you off-line about some of this stuff? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 01:00, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::How about email? Do you use the one listed on Disciples of Boltax? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 01:23, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Yup, that's a good one. The same one we stick in the acknowledgment pages of all of our books.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 01:25, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Transformers Cybertron: Primus Unleashed==<br /> I want to ask something, is [[Aurex 006.0 Kappa]] the flash Game Primus Unleashed? I'm asking this because I'm not too sure but I assumed its the universe of that flash game because Vector Prime's answer was about Unicron Singularity, like in the game and since you're the writer of Ask Vector Prime, I wanted to ask.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 08:20, 30 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yes, that was my intention. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 11:00, 30 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Ok thanks.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 11:59, 30 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Universe Soundwave and Space Case==<br /> Question. For the past few months, you and other writers on Ask Vector Prime have revealed the universal origins and backstory of some of the Autobots and Decepticons that were released in the Transformers Universe (2003) toyline(and let me give you a big thank you for revealing those backstories, especially for the ones that were part of the 2001 Robots in Disguise continuity). However, the only Universe toys that didn't get a backstory were Soundwave and Space Case. Let me add Air Raid(who came packaged with Wind Sheer)too while I am it. People always ask on AVP for their backstory and universe of origin, but no answer is provided about them. Is there a specific reason for this? I'm just curious. Keep up the good work! [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 18:31, 14 December 2015 (EDT)<br /> :I'm not Jim, just a friend who wrote for AVP once - but I think I can answer this pretty clear cut: These kind of wiki-led questions are generally comparitively boring to write and do a disservice to AVP as a story medium. If he or any of the other writers have an idea that's actually fun and a question worded as if it's something other than wiki-bait, it'll get answered - but with such a high volume of questions it's likely difficult to find time for what borders on the inane. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 18:56, 14 December 2015 (EST)<br /> ::So how would you go about asking a question about Soundwave and Space Case without making it seem its wiki-bait? Weird question, I know, but it seems lately AVP wants us to avoid asking certain types of questions. [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 19:07, 14 December 2015 (EDT)</div>

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<p>Crossblades: /* Universe Soundwave and Space Case */</p> <hr /> <div>== Downtimes ==<br /> <br /> Hey, Jim. I moved your comment [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Leaving2#Site-up_issues|here]] to join its friends.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 17:34, 5 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == BW Models ==<br /> <br /> Finished the scanning tonight. Expect an e-mail some time tomorrow. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:17, 13 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Well, awesome! Thank you, I'm looking forward to seeing the models. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:06, 13 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Cybertronix alphabets ==<br /> <br /> Can I ask how you made the [[:Image:Maximal Language.jpg]] and [[:Image:Predacon Language.jpg]] pics? They might [[:wikipedia:Template:BadJPEG|be better off without JPEG compression]], if possible... --[[User:Fleb|fleb]] 17:53, 8 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> : I think I just typed them out and took a screen capture. You're welcome to grab the fonts and take a better pic. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:09, 8 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Letters Page ==<br /> <br /> Hey Jim, you've researched the UK letters pages since I love my notes on them... do you remember whereabout they talk about the US timeline, Time Wars etc being a new universe? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:16, 20 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Oh, geeze. Ummm ... very late in the game, from what I recall. Dreadwing probably, not quite Blaster yet. Beyond that, I don't think I can help you. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:24, 20 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Hrm...<br /> ::Also I ''might'' be wrong on this... but I think that the BK Transformers site is using your fonts. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:45, 22 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::They sure are! Awesomesauce! Thanks for the heads up. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:58, 22 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [[Cyberglyphics]] ==<br /> [[Image:B4tasv2 numerals.png|right|]]<br /> [[Image:Allspark chars.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> Hey, just wondered if you'd be interested in helping on the article. I'm going to have a bunch of time over the holiday weekend, so I hope to get most of the character set transcribed and uploaded as a PDF file. I can also shoot you the Illustrator file when I'm done if you'd like. With a little luck, maybe we can make sense of this and turn it into a good resource for the wiki. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 14:13, 30 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Happily. Cyberglyphics are beautiful, and I'd love to see them get some love. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:16, 30 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::PDF now uploaded [[:Image:Cyberglyphics reference.pdf|here]]. Those are all the glyphs I've found so far. Lemme know if you need the original Illustrator file.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 22:57, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::Some of the glyphs have also been associated with numbers, and a handful of them are used for an (incomplete) substitution-cipher in a coloring book. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:59, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::::If there are more I don't have in that file, I'd love to see examples so I can add them in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 23:02, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::::I should dig out the coloring book too... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:55, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Aha! I ''knew'' there had to be more than just the ten of these things. I'll get those integrated tomorrow.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:02, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::::::And added to the PDF. Oh, how I wish they didn't put that inane effect on them to make them look &quot;ancient.&quot; It makes them harder to eyeball.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:18, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Yet more. ;-) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:37, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Hmm. ''Some'' of those are new, yet some of them are repeats. I have to wonder how many symbols we'll have when we've catalogued them all.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:43, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> Actually, I just realized that an NDA I signed makes me working on these a dicey proposition at best. Better for me to err on the safe side and bow out. I'm still quite keen to see what you guys make of them, but I don't think I can be involved.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:06, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :That's fair enough, Jim. Thanks for the consideration, at least!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 23:07, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == More Fonts ==<br /> <br /> Thought you might want to know-- Decepticon Regular shows up in the Revenge of the Fallen X-Box/PS3 game. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:59, 14 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Awesome! I'm everywhere I want to be! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:41, 14 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Quiz ==<br /> <br /> Just goofing around - [http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/quiz/results?q=1472784&amp;lsrc=ntqofb&amp;flow=quiz Transformers quiz]. Probably easysauce for anyone here though.<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> I just wanted to say thank you for the kind words you send us the seibs News Crew per e-mail! Your updates are very much appreciated.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 08:06, 29 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Well, I appreciate the traffic you throw my way, and the good job you guys do of keeping me up to date. I've got your RSS feed up on my blog so that I can stay abreast of the latest TF news. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:19, 29 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::One hand washes the other. :D[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 13:29, 29 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for telling me this. I just ran across the Star Wars pages and wanted to add the species. I didn't know that that was against the outside sources policy. I think General Grievous is still marked as a Kaleesh however. {{unsigned|Kaymac192}}<br /> :No problem. I just didn't want you to think that people were picking on you because you were new or anything like that. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:56, 19 August 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == This must be made ==<br /> <br /> If IDW is up to it, it would be awesome if you and bill could put together an Ark-like tome of boxart, especially the stuff from G1 to Beast Wars. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:32, 27 August 2009 (EDT)<br /> :All things are possible ... -[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:49, 27 August 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Harrier Starscream ==<br /> <br /> Damn. True. Forgot about it. Anyway, sorry for being so fussy, but there should be capital &quot;H&quot;. &quot;jump jet&quot; (= Harrier) - lowcase, &quot;Harrier&quot; - uppercase.<br /> <br /> Seems like Starscream's certainly not an expert when it comes to human technology... -- [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 09:45, 6 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == WOW ==<br /> <br /> omg, i cant believe Jim Sorenson has an account here! Im such a huge fan! right now im saving up to buy the allspark almanac at The Forbidden Planet! --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.160.72|92.238.160.72]] 14:27, 14 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Well, I hope you enjoy it! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:38, 14 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Oh I Bet i will! Its basically the ark, only coloured in and animated! --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.160.72|92.238.160.72]] 14:40, 14 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Cybertron caps ==<br /> <br /> Are these [[:Image:Cyb13 telemetry1.jpg|the]] [[:Image:Cyb13 telemetry2.jpg|two]] you're after? I'm afraid they're not particularly clear - this is as big as they get. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:16, 19 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Yup, those're the two. Thanks! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 20:22, 19 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Revenge ==<br /> <br /> Since I don't have [[Transformers: The Complete Ark|The Complete Ark]], can you confirm [[Revenge (G1)|this]] for me and a few other editors? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:12, 10 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Yes, that's in there. It came from one of the original designers. I asked if the ship (and the ship at the end of MtMtE) had a name in the original model sheets. It didn't, but he spoke about what he would have called it if it were up to him. I figured that was good enough to mention in the book. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 19:29, 10 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Greetingz-z-z-z!==<br /> Waz-z-z-zpinator greetz-z-z! I'm glad to find z-z-z-zo much comradez-z-z-z here! Well, your questionz-z-z - my answerz-z-z (or vice verz-z-za) on every theme!--[[User:He-l-en1959|He-l-en1959]] 15:50, 30 November 2009 (EST)<br /> == Quez-z-ztion ==<br /> I pray, can you write the whole text of &quot;The Tranz-z-zformerz-z-z&quot; z-z-zong (&quot;Transformers, robots in disguise…&quot;) to me? Or tell me where can I find the text, pleaz-z-ze!--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 12:25, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Seeker==<br /> <br /> Does Ramjet using the term Seeker in the Almanac mean the group is technically referred to as such? [[User:Eire]] 01.15 Jan 04 2010 (UTC)<br /> : You probably want his user page, not his article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:02, 3 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::I'll leave that as an exercise to the readers. What he says is &quot;[Thundercracker is] the original Starscream. All of us seekers were cloned from him.&quot;--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:22, 3 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Well, he's a liar, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 3 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Lion's share ==<br /> <br /> In the source fable, the lion took all of the available food; thus the &quot;lion's share&quot; means ALL of something. However, it is often misused to mean the greatest part. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:10, 23 February 2010 (EST)<br /> :You say ''mis''used, I say used. Language is an evolving shared construct, and that today the meaning has changed. However, you're absolutely right about the historic origins of the phrase.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:28, 23 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Sentinel Prime==<br /> {{note|This conversation was moved to [[Talk:Sentinel Prime (G1)#Sentinel Prime]].}}<br /> <br /> == Anagrams ==<br /> <br /> I was just looking at the Almanac Annotations, and saw a section labeled &quot;Unsolved Anagrams&quot; with a listing for a &quot;Baron Ye Gult&quot;. I don't know if the list has been updated lately or if this anagram has been solved, but I was wondering if it was perhaps supposed to be &quot;Tonya Bulger&quot;? Don't know who she is, but it seems a possible name. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:06, 27 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :You'd have to ask Bill, those were his. He does have a [http://www.formspring.me/BillForster Formspring], though. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:08, 27 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Sorry, looked at the note wrong. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:12, 27 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Dalek ==<br /> <br /> About the Dalek thing, I was hoping to add it on because that what a Dalek is. I thought we didn't have to not &quot;know&quot; what a Dalek is, and we can tell someone who doesn't know what a Dalek is what it is. That was for people who just saw the picture of the Dalek next to &quot;Go&quot; should I just leave that stuff for the original wikipedia?[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 19:54, 5 September 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Junkion name request==<br /> I've been trying to write/writing several pages for the various Junkion characters, but since I don't own a copy of ''The Complete Ark'', I have no clue what name belongs to what model. I was hoping someone would move them for me, but since that's not happening auto, I am asking around for someone to be so kind. So, would you be so kind to move those pages to their proper title for me?<br /> Which reminds me, there's certain information I'd like to see added to the Character model page or ''The Ark'' pages I figure only you could add. How are character model sheets treated during the (post-)production process? Where do they go once they aren't needed anymore. Is there any reason to why some &quot;get lost&quot; and others don't? How come they apparently had access to Lithone models from the movie to fill up the BBo2006 Junkion crowd, but not to Junkion models? Pretty much the technical lifestory of character model sheets. I would like to learn more about that, and I think it would be interesting to others too. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:32, 17 November 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Animated Arcee's Season 3 models ==<br /> <br /> Do you have larger versions of Arcee's season three models? The front and back ones in the Almanac 2 are pretty small, and I can't find her altmode anywhere. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 01:04, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> :What do you need them for? Also, there is no altmode model for her. She never transformed in the show, so they never drew one.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:30, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> ::I don't really need them, but was just wanting a better look at them. (Possibly as an extra on your blog :P) --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:30, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Almanac ==<br /> <br /> Where do you buy the Almanacs?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 16:53, 24 March 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Amazon, I believe. There's a link on his user page. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:07, 24 March 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Or any bookstore or comic book shop that's willing to order it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:42, 24 March 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Pictures on [[army-building]] ==<br /> <br /> The photos on the army building page which you added back in 2008, did you take those yourself or were they sourced from somewhere? I'm just looking to retag some of them with descriptions, since the original descriptions were lost in the bookworm crash. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:49, 9 February 2012 (EST)<br /> :I took them myself. I'm big into army-building.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 19:00, 9 February 2012 (EST)<br /> ::Groovy, thanks! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:04, 9 February 2012 (EST)<br /> <br /> == TFA Optimus Prime ==<br /> <br /> So you shan't reveal whether or not he was to become supreme commander in the end, hmm?--[[User:Autotrooper42|Autotrooper42]] 18:15, 2 March 2012 (EST)<br /> : I shared what Marty &amp; Matt &amp; Derrick shared with me. I don't know what they intended to be the secret of Sari or the ultimate disposition of Optimus &amp; Sentinel and it isn't my place to make up an answer.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:41, 2 March 2012 (EST)<br /> ::That place belongs to FunPub! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:30, 2 March 2012 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Alt2day.com ==<br /> <br /> For the past year, I haven't got the site to work for me, any idea why? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:57, 25 June 2013 (EDT)<br /> :Well, it was a little viral marketing site for a book that's been out for several years now. A friend was hosting it for me... it's possible he stopped devoting the bandwidth for it.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:28, 25 June 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::It was the dynyds version, and it did that once before, from January to August of 2011. It's been out now for so long. Maybe you can talk to this friend of your's? Just asking, that's all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 23:33, 25 June 2013 (EDT)<br /> Hey, um, have you learned anything about it since I asked you? Just wanted to know. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 20:19, 31 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::Haven't heard one way or the other, sorry.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:49, 5 September 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah well, thanks for responding. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 17:52, 5 September 2013 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Box art book? ==<br /> <br /> haven't heard about this for a while; is it still a thing, or did it fizzle out? [[User:Spork|Spork]] 18:42, 20 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> :Still a thing. It's looking like mid 2014, to tie in with the movie. It's a big subject matter, with appropriately large physical dimensions including pagecount. That means a high price tag. To mitigate that risk, IDW is timing it to maximize sales. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:45, 20 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> :::Cool! By the way, is it g1/g2 only, or more comprehensive than that? Now if IDW would just put out an officially translated set of the Japanese g1 comics, I can die in peace...<br /> ::::G1/G2/Japanese/Bonus Material.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 00:44, 21 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> <br /> If you're still searching for the artwork, i have Action Master Bumblebee's card and the box for an Action Master Sprocket (what do you mean &quot;both&quot;? the only Sprockets on TFWiki seem to be G1 and Shattered Glass, and only one of those even HAS a toy to have any packaging art). Hopefully i can scan what i have and e-mail you soon.<br /> [[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 01:20, 29 October 2013 (EDT)<br /> :Hey there, Rhymus. Do you literally mean the actual card, or do you have the card art? Generally scans from the packages themselves have been too low resolution for us to work with. Mostly we're working with one of three things: original artwork, photo negatives of the original artwork used for archival, or first generation chrome positives (transparencies) of the first generation artwork used for advertising production. Do you have one of these? <br /> :<br /> :(By 'both' I mean both Sprocket's individual robot form, and him riding in his car.)--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:38, 29 October 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::Sorry, i only have the packaging. Somewhere. Guess i can stop looking for it. [[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 20:06, 4 November 2013 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Beast Wars: Uprising characters ==<br /> <br /> If I may ask, are the Decepticon Builder [[Zoom Out]] and Autobot Builder [[Override (BW)|Override]] in &quot;[[Broken Windshields]]&quot; based in any way on 2007 movie [[Zoom Out 25X]] and 2010 toyline/movieverse [[Override (TF 2010)|Override]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:52, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> :It's definitely Real Gear Robot Zoom Out for Zoom Out, but Override is based on her Cybertron character. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:59, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Correct.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 15:16, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Thanks! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::By the way, was [[Override (BW)|Override]]'s appearance in &quot;Broken Windshields&quot; based on any specific toy of her ''Cybertron'' counterpart? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:22, 12 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::In my brain she kind of [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/Override/override.htm looks like this], only, you know, hardwired into an arena and all sort of creepy and pathetic.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 16:34, 12 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Gotcha. Thank you, Jim! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 18:52, 12 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> Why is it that thus far in ''Beast Wars: Uprising'', [[Night Viper]] has been a Predacon when all his previous appearances and his sole, mainstream toy have been Maximal? Is it a reference to something? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:54, 7 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yup, referencing Hasbro's original plans to have him be a Predacon who hooked up with Primal's crew of Maximal resistance after Megatron took over the planet. Not sure why they changed that, perhaps too complicated to work into the packaging bio. I always thought it was a neat idea and had that in the back of my head when building out the Predacon team.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 17:48, 7 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Rook page character ==<br /> <br /> If I am correct in understanding that you are the author of &quot;[[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist]]&quot;, is the criminal profiler Torca the Beast Era one or a new Transcendent Technomorph version? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:24, 10 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Sorry, I'm one member of a team working on that page, and I didn't write the post in question.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 01:02, 11 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == You ==<br /> So, you really are the Jim Sorenson. Did you worked at Marvel? I think I remember seeing your name in a Marvel related site.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:12, 20 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :I'm really *A* Jim Sorenson. I am THIS [[Jim Sorenson]]. I don't think I've done any work for Marvel, but I've done plenty for [[Fun Publications]] and [[IDW Publishing]]. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 09:05, 21 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Oh, sorry, my bad.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 23:10, 26 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Also, the title is a bit weird, sorry lol.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 10:10, 27 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::Also, these Universal Stream things is awesome, I like alternate universe stories, you're a genius.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 07:20, 28 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::Thanks. Glad that you're enjoying them. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:35, 28 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Child of Primus Whirl ==<br /> <br /> Where has it ever been said that Child of Primus Whirl comes from Aurex 405.0 Epsilon like King Atlas? Both King Atlas and a Whirl are in the Cauldron in &quot;[[Escape (Universe)|Escape]]&quot; but &quot;[[Force of Habit]]&quot; shows King Atlas's subordinate Whirl as one of the last survivors on Combatron after King Atlas's disappearance. I can believe that Whirl was abducted later but where in fiction has that ever been said? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:17, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :&quot;[[Force of Habit]]&quot; showed that both King Atlas and Whirl come from the planet [[Combatron (planet)|Combatron]], which is in the ''Cybertron'' cartoon Club fiction continuity (Aurex 405.0 Epsilon). --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 14:29, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah, so, you're thinking that it's a DIFFERENT Whirl? Possible I suppose. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:33, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Well I'm just saying that we've never seen FunPub Cybertron Whirl ever getting abducted. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:33, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::I'm sold. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:35, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> While we're on the subject of the Children of Primus, I would like to ask you for a little help if possible. You see, the reason I put Dreadwind and Smokejumper on the Children of Primus list is because their pages were tagged as Children of Primus since before I joined the wiki this year. I saw from G1 Sunstorm page that his profile in the sole 3H [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1|club magazine issue]] marked him as Child of Primus, and I deduced that the other guys with profiles in the magazine must all have had Children/Minion affiliations listed. Same with the guys with profiles in ''The Wreckers'' #2 &quot;[[Betrayal]]&quot; director's cut. All of their profiles in that issue seem to mark them as Children/Minions despite them not appearing in the main ''Universe'' comic. If you or anyone you know has the original publications, could you check them? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 17:29, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yeah, ok, dug out my old issues. Sure 'nuff, that's where it's from. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 21:31, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Thank you. And if I may ask, can Dreadwind and Smokejumper's profiles in the 3H club magazine retroactively be assigned to their RID or Armada incarnations? And what about the profile for Sam's Club Optimus Prime? The wiki's page for [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] cites the profile in saying that as a member of the Dimensional Patrol, he was abducted along with Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus, but Side Burn is not among the escapees in [[:File:TFUjailbreak.jpg|the jailbreak scene in &quot;Escape&quot;]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:31, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Nothing in Dreadwind or Smokejumper incarnations specifies where they might be from. Sam's Club Optimus is definitely a Robots in Disguise bot, with explicit reference to capturing Galvatron and delivering him to Cybertron. After this, he studied &quot;xeno-biological ecosystems throughout the universe&quot; until &quot;evil threatened the temporal and spacial nexus located near the planet Earth,&quot; whereupon he rejoined his comrades on Earth and founded the Dimensional Patrol, &quot;a team of transwarp specialsts and rnowned warriors from the Autobot ranks.&quot; No mention is given as to who's on the team. It's definitely pre-Universe, as Unicron grabbed him and other members of the Dimensional Patrol to participate in the Universe War. <br /> :::Tell you what... you make a skeleton page for the Dimensional Patrol, I'll fill in the details.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 00:42, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::Gotcha. And I'm going to go with Armada for Children of Primus Dreadwind and Smokejumper because the profiles are in the same issue as the MegaWing Galvatron instructions and because RID Dreadwind and Smokejumper are not among the Shell Game Decepticons mentioned in Ask Vector Prime. And I'll take off the Dimensional Patrol detail from Side Burn's page because he's not mentioned in the Sam's Club Optimus profile. And also because a regular colored one, plausibly the cartoon one, appeared freshly abducted in the 2004 OTFCC voice actor play. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:51, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::Good, I was going to suggest you remove that from Side Burn, since it's a reasonable inference (perhaps as a note), but not definite. BTW, is there some way I could chat with you off-line about some of this stuff? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 01:00, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::How about email? Do you use the one listed on Disciples of Boltax? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 01:23, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Yup, that's a good one. The same one we stick in the acknowledgment pages of all of our books.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 01:25, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Transformers Cybertron: Primus Unleashed==<br /> I want to ask something, is [[Aurex 006.0 Kappa]] the flash Game Primus Unleashed? I'm asking this because I'm not too sure but I assumed its the universe of that flash game because Vector Prime's answer was about Unicron Singularity, like in the game and since you're the writer of Ask Vector Prime, I wanted to ask.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 08:20, 30 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yes, that was my intention. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 11:00, 30 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Ok thanks.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 11:59, 30 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Universe Soundwave and Space Case==<br /> Question. For the past few months, you and other writers on Ask Vector Prime have revealed the universal origins and backstory of some of the Autobots and Decepticons that were released in the Transformers Universe (2003) toyline(and let me give you a big thank you for revealing those backstories, especially for the ones that were part of the 2001 Robots in Disguise continuity). However, the only Universe toys that didn't get a backstory were Soundwave and Space Case. Let me add Air Raid(who came packaged with Wind Sheer)too while I am it. People always ask on AVP for their backstory and universe of origin, but no answer is provided about them. Is there a specific reason for this? I'm just curious. Keep up the good work! [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 18:31, 14 December 2015 (EDT)</div>

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<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>== Downtimes ==<br /> <br /> Hey, Jim. I moved your comment [[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Leaving2#Site-up_issues|here]] to join its friends.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 17:34, 5 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == BW Models ==<br /> <br /> Finished the scanning tonight. Expect an e-mail some time tomorrow. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:17, 13 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Well, awesome! Thank you, I'm looking forward to seeing the models. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:06, 13 May 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Cybertronix alphabets ==<br /> <br /> Can I ask how you made the [[:Image:Maximal Language.jpg]] and [[:Image:Predacon Language.jpg]] pics? They might [[:wikipedia:Template:BadJPEG|be better off without JPEG compression]], if possible... --[[User:Fleb|fleb]] 17:53, 8 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> : I think I just typed them out and took a screen capture. You're welcome to grab the fonts and take a better pic. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:09, 8 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Letters Page ==<br /> <br /> Hey Jim, you've researched the UK letters pages since I love my notes on them... do you remember whereabout they talk about the US timeline, Time Wars etc being a new universe? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:16, 20 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Oh, geeze. Ummm ... very late in the game, from what I recall. Dreadwing probably, not quite Blaster yet. Beyond that, I don't think I can help you. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:24, 20 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Hrm...<br /> ::Also I ''might'' be wrong on this... but I think that the BK Transformers site is using your fonts. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:45, 22 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::They sure are! Awesomesauce! Thanks for the heads up. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:58, 22 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == [[Cyberglyphics]] ==<br /> [[Image:B4tasv2 numerals.png|right|]]<br /> [[Image:Allspark chars.jpg|thumb|left]]<br /> Hey, just wondered if you'd be interested in helping on the article. I'm going to have a bunch of time over the holiday weekend, so I hope to get most of the character set transcribed and uploaded as a PDF file. I can also shoot you the Illustrator file when I'm done if you'd like. With a little luck, maybe we can make sense of this and turn it into a good resource for the wiki. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 14:13, 30 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Happily. Cyberglyphics are beautiful, and I'd love to see them get some love. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:16, 30 June 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::PDF now uploaded [[:Image:Cyberglyphics reference.pdf|here]]. Those are all the glyphs I've found so far. Lemme know if you need the original Illustrator file.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 22:57, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::Some of the glyphs have also been associated with numbers, and a handful of them are used for an (incomplete) substitution-cipher in a coloring book. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:59, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::::If there are more I don't have in that file, I'd love to see examples so I can add them in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 23:02, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::::I should dig out the coloring book too... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:55, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Aha! I ''knew'' there had to be more than just the ten of these things. I'll get those integrated tomorrow.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 00:02, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::::::And added to the PDF. Oh, how I wish they didn't put that inane effect on them to make them look &quot;ancient.&quot; It makes them harder to eyeball.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:18, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::::::::Yet more. ;-) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:37, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :::::::::Hmm. ''Some'' of those are new, yet some of them are repeats. I have to wonder how many symbols we'll have when we've catalogued them all.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:43, 5 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> Actually, I just realized that an NDA I signed makes me working on these a dicey proposition at best. Better for me to err on the safe side and bow out. I'm still quite keen to see what you guys make of them, but I don't think I can be involved.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:06, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> :That's fair enough, Jim. Thanks for the consideration, at least!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&lt;sup&gt;Talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 23:07, 4 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == More Fonts ==<br /> <br /> Thought you might want to know-- Decepticon Regular shows up in the Revenge of the Fallen X-Box/PS3 game. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:59, 14 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Awesome! I'm everywhere I want to be! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:41, 14 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Quiz ==<br /> <br /> Just goofing around - [http://apps.facebook.com/flixster/quiz/results?q=1472784&amp;lsrc=ntqofb&amp;flow=quiz Transformers quiz]. Probably easysauce for anyone here though.<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> I just wanted to say thank you for the kind words you send us the seibs News Crew per e-mail! Your updates are very much appreciated.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 08:06, 29 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Well, I appreciate the traffic you throw my way, and the good job you guys do of keeping me up to date. I've got your RSS feed up on my blog so that I can stay abreast of the latest TF news. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:19, 29 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> ::One hand washes the other. :D[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 13:29, 29 July 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Thanks ==<br /> <br /> Thank you for telling me this. I just ran across the Star Wars pages and wanted to add the species. I didn't know that that was against the outside sources policy. I think General Grievous is still marked as a Kaleesh however. {{unsigned|Kaymac192}}<br /> :No problem. I just didn't want you to think that people were picking on you because you were new or anything like that. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:56, 19 August 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == This must be made ==<br /> <br /> If IDW is up to it, it would be awesome if you and bill could put together an Ark-like tome of boxart, especially the stuff from G1 to Beast Wars. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:32, 27 August 2009 (EDT)<br /> :All things are possible ... -[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:49, 27 August 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Harrier Starscream ==<br /> <br /> Damn. True. Forgot about it. Anyway, sorry for being so fussy, but there should be capital &quot;H&quot;. &quot;jump jet&quot; (= Harrier) - lowcase, &quot;Harrier&quot; - uppercase.<br /> <br /> Seems like Starscream's certainly not an expert when it comes to human technology... -- [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 09:45, 6 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == WOW ==<br /> <br /> omg, i cant believe Jim Sorenson has an account here! Im such a huge fan! right now im saving up to buy the allspark almanac at The Forbidden Planet! --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.160.72|92.238.160.72]] 14:27, 14 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Well, I hope you enjoy it! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:38, 14 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Oh I Bet i will! Its basically the ark, only coloured in and animated! --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.160.72|92.238.160.72]] 14:40, 14 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Cybertron caps ==<br /> <br /> Are these [[:Image:Cyb13 telemetry1.jpg|the]] [[:Image:Cyb13 telemetry2.jpg|two]] you're after? I'm afraid they're not particularly clear - this is as big as they get. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:16, 19 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Yup, those're the two. Thanks! --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 20:22, 19 September 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Revenge ==<br /> <br /> Since I don't have [[Transformers: The Complete Ark|The Complete Ark]], can you confirm [[Revenge (G1)|this]] for me and a few other editors? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:12, 10 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> :Yes, that's in there. It came from one of the original designers. I asked if the ship (and the ship at the end of MtMtE) had a name in the original model sheets. It didn't, but he spoke about what he would have called it if it were up to him. I figured that was good enough to mention in the book. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 19:29, 10 October 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Greetingz-z-z-z!==<br /> Waz-z-z-zpinator greetz-z-z! I'm glad to find z-z-z-zo much comradez-z-z-z here! Well, your questionz-z-z - my answerz-z-z (or vice verz-z-za) on every theme!--[[User:He-l-en1959|He-l-en1959]] 15:50, 30 November 2009 (EST)<br /> == Quez-z-ztion ==<br /> I pray, can you write the whole text of &quot;The Tranz-z-zformerz-z-z&quot; z-z-zong (&quot;Transformers, robots in disguise…&quot;) to me? Or tell me where can I find the text, pleaz-z-ze!--[[User:He-l-en1959|Waz-z-z-zpinator59]] 12:25, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Seeker==<br /> <br /> Does Ramjet using the term Seeker in the Almanac mean the group is technically referred to as such? [[User:Eire]] 01.15 Jan 04 2010 (UTC)<br /> : You probably want his user page, not his article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:02, 3 January 2010 (EST)<br /> ::I'll leave that as an exercise to the readers. What he says is &quot;[Thundercracker is] the original Starscream. All of us seekers were cloned from him.&quot;--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:22, 3 January 2010 (EST)<br /> :::Well, he's a liar, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 3 January 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Lion's share ==<br /> <br /> In the source fable, the lion took all of the available food; thus the &quot;lion's share&quot; means ALL of something. However, it is often misused to mean the greatest part. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:10, 23 February 2010 (EST)<br /> :You say ''mis''used, I say used. Language is an evolving shared construct, and that today the meaning has changed. However, you're absolutely right about the historic origins of the phrase.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:28, 23 February 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Sentinel Prime==<br /> {{note|This conversation was moved to [[Talk:Sentinel Prime (G1)#Sentinel Prime]].}}<br /> <br /> == Anagrams ==<br /> <br /> I was just looking at the Almanac Annotations, and saw a section labeled &quot;Unsolved Anagrams&quot; with a listing for a &quot;Baron Ye Gult&quot;. I don't know if the list has been updated lately or if this anagram has been solved, but I was wondering if it was perhaps supposed to be &quot;Tonya Bulger&quot;? Don't know who she is, but it seems a possible name. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:06, 27 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> :You'd have to ask Bill, those were his. He does have a [http://www.formspring.me/BillForster Formspring], though. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:08, 27 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> ::Sorry, looked at the note wrong. Thanks for the help. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:12, 27 July 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Dalek ==<br /> <br /> About the Dalek thing, I was hoping to add it on because that what a Dalek is. I thought we didn't have to not &quot;know&quot; what a Dalek is, and we can tell someone who doesn't know what a Dalek is what it is. That was for people who just saw the picture of the Dalek next to &quot;Go&quot; should I just leave that stuff for the original wikipedia?[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 19:54, 5 September 2010 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Junkion name request==<br /> I've been trying to write/writing several pages for the various Junkion characters, but since I don't own a copy of ''The Complete Ark'', I have no clue what name belongs to what model. I was hoping someone would move them for me, but since that's not happening auto, I am asking around for someone to be so kind. So, would you be so kind to move those pages to their proper title for me?<br /> Which reminds me, there's certain information I'd like to see added to the Character model page or ''The Ark'' pages I figure only you could add. How are character model sheets treated during the (post-)production process? Where do they go once they aren't needed anymore. Is there any reason to why some &quot;get lost&quot; and others don't? How come they apparently had access to Lithone models from the movie to fill up the BBo2006 Junkion crowd, but not to Junkion models? Pretty much the technical lifestory of character model sheets. I would like to learn more about that, and I think it would be interesting to others too. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:32, 17 November 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Animated Arcee's Season 3 models ==<br /> <br /> Do you have larger versions of Arcee's season three models? The front and back ones in the Almanac 2 are pretty small, and I can't find her altmode anywhere. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 01:04, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> :What do you need them for? Also, there is no altmode model for her. She never transformed in the show, so they never drew one.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:30, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> ::I don't really need them, but was just wanting a better look at them. (Possibly as an extra on your blog :P) --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 15:30, 25 November 2010 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Almanac ==<br /> <br /> Where do you buy the Almanacs?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 16:53, 24 March 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Amazon, I believe. There's a link on his user page. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:07, 24 March 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Or any bookstore or comic book shop that's willing to order it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:42, 24 March 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Pictures on [[army-building]] ==<br /> <br /> The photos on the army building page which you added back in 2008, did you take those yourself or were they sourced from somewhere? I'm just looking to retag some of them with descriptions, since the original descriptions were lost in the bookworm crash. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:49, 9 February 2012 (EST)<br /> :I took them myself. I'm big into army-building.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 19:00, 9 February 2012 (EST)<br /> ::Groovy, thanks! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:04, 9 February 2012 (EST)<br /> <br /> == TFA Optimus Prime ==<br /> <br /> So you shan't reveal whether or not he was to become supreme commander in the end, hmm?--[[User:Autotrooper42|Autotrooper42]] 18:15, 2 March 2012 (EST)<br /> : I shared what Marty &amp; Matt &amp; Derrick shared with me. I don't know what they intended to be the secret of Sari or the ultimate disposition of Optimus &amp; Sentinel and it isn't my place to make up an answer.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:41, 2 March 2012 (EST)<br /> ::That place belongs to FunPub! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:30, 2 March 2012 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Alt2day.com ==<br /> <br /> For the past year, I haven't got the site to work for me, any idea why? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:57, 25 June 2013 (EDT)<br /> :Well, it was a little viral marketing site for a book that's been out for several years now. A friend was hosting it for me... it's possible he stopped devoting the bandwidth for it.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 23:28, 25 June 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::It was the dynyds version, and it did that once before, from January to August of 2011. It's been out now for so long. Maybe you can talk to this friend of your's? Just asking, that's all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 23:33, 25 June 2013 (EDT)<br /> Hey, um, have you learned anything about it since I asked you? Just wanted to know. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 20:19, 31 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::Haven't heard one way or the other, sorry.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:49, 5 September 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah well, thanks for responding. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 17:52, 5 September 2013 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Box art book? ==<br /> <br /> haven't heard about this for a while; is it still a thing, or did it fizzle out? [[User:Spork|Spork]] 18:42, 20 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> :Still a thing. It's looking like mid 2014, to tie in with the movie. It's a big subject matter, with appropriately large physical dimensions including pagecount. That means a high price tag. To mitigate that risk, IDW is timing it to maximize sales. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:45, 20 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> :::Cool! By the way, is it g1/g2 only, or more comprehensive than that? Now if IDW would just put out an officially translated set of the Japanese g1 comics, I can die in peace...<br /> ::::G1/G2/Japanese/Bonus Material.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 00:44, 21 August 2013 (EDT)<br /> <br /> If you're still searching for the artwork, i have Action Master Bumblebee's card and the box for an Action Master Sprocket (what do you mean &quot;both&quot;? the only Sprockets on TFWiki seem to be G1 and Shattered Glass, and only one of those even HAS a toy to have any packaging art). Hopefully i can scan what i have and e-mail you soon.<br /> [[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 01:20, 29 October 2013 (EDT)<br /> :Hey there, Rhymus. Do you literally mean the actual card, or do you have the card art? Generally scans from the packages themselves have been too low resolution for us to work with. Mostly we're working with one of three things: original artwork, photo negatives of the original artwork used for archival, or first generation chrome positives (transparencies) of the first generation artwork used for advertising production. Do you have one of these? <br /> :<br /> :(By 'both' I mean both Sprocket's individual robot form, and him riding in his car.)--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:38, 29 October 2013 (EDT)<br /> ::Sorry, i only have the packaging. Somewhere. Guess i can stop looking for it. [[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 20:06, 4 November 2013 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Beast Wars: Uprising characters ==<br /> <br /> If I may ask, are the Decepticon Builder [[Zoom Out]] and Autobot Builder [[Override (BW)|Override]] in &quot;[[Broken Windshields]]&quot; based in any way on 2007 movie [[Zoom Out 25X]] and 2010 toyline/movieverse [[Override (TF 2010)|Override]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:52, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> :It's definitely Real Gear Robot Zoom Out for Zoom Out, but Override is based on her Cybertron character. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:59, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Correct.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 15:16, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Thanks! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:37, 10 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::By the way, was [[Override (BW)|Override]]'s appearance in &quot;Broken Windshields&quot; based on any specific toy of her ''Cybertron'' counterpart? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:22, 12 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::In my brain she kind of [http://www.tfu.info/2005/Autobot/Override/override.htm looks like this], only, you know, hardwired into an arena and all sort of creepy and pathetic.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 16:34, 12 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::Gotcha. Thank you, Jim! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 18:52, 12 May 2015 (EDT)<br /> Why is it that thus far in ''Beast Wars: Uprising'', [[Night Viper]] has been a Predacon when all his previous appearances and his sole, mainstream toy have been Maximal? Is it a reference to something? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:54, 7 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yup, referencing Hasbro's original plans to have him be a Predacon who hooked up with Primal's crew of Maximal resistance after Megatron took over the planet. Not sure why they changed that, perhaps too complicated to work into the packaging bio. I always thought it was a neat idea and had that in the back of my head when building out the Predacon team.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 17:48, 7 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Rook page character ==<br /> <br /> If I am correct in understanding that you are the author of &quot;[[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist]]&quot;, is the criminal profiler Torca the Beast Era one or a new Transcendent Technomorph version? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:24, 10 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Sorry, I'm one member of a team working on that page, and I didn't write the post in question.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 01:02, 11 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == You ==<br /> So, you really are the Jim Sorenson. Did you worked at Marvel? I think I remember seeing your name in a Marvel related site.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:12, 20 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :I'm really *A* Jim Sorenson. I am THIS [[Jim Sorenson]]. I don't think I've done any work for Marvel, but I've done plenty for [[Fun Publications]] and [[IDW Publishing]]. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 09:05, 21 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Oh, sorry, my bad.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 23:10, 26 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Also, the title is a bit weird, sorry lol.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 10:10, 27 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::Also, these Universal Stream things is awesome, I like alternate universe stories, you're a genius.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 07:20, 28 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::Thanks. Glad that you're enjoying them. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:35, 28 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Child of Primus Whirl ==<br /> <br /> Where has it ever been said that Child of Primus Whirl comes from Aurex 405.0 Epsilon like King Atlas? Both King Atlas and a Whirl are in the Cauldron in &quot;[[Escape (Universe)|Escape]]&quot; but &quot;[[Force of Habit]]&quot; shows King Atlas's subordinate Whirl as one of the last survivors on Combatron after King Atlas's disappearance. I can believe that Whirl was abducted later but where in fiction has that ever been said? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:17, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :&quot;[[Force of Habit]]&quot; showed that both King Atlas and Whirl come from the planet [[Combatron (planet)|Combatron]], which is in the ''Cybertron'' cartoon Club fiction continuity (Aurex 405.0 Epsilon). --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 14:29, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah, so, you're thinking that it's a DIFFERENT Whirl? Possible I suppose. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:33, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Well I'm just saying that we've never seen FunPub Cybertron Whirl ever getting abducted. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:33, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::I'm sold. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 14:35, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> While we're on the subject of the Children of Primus, I would like to ask you for a little help if possible. You see, the reason I put Dreadwind and Smokejumper on the Children of Primus list is because their pages were tagged as Children of Primus since before I joined the wiki this year. I saw from G1 Sunstorm page that his profile in the sole 3H [[The Official Transformers Collectors' Club Magazine issue 1|club magazine issue]] marked him as Child of Primus, and I deduced that the other guys with profiles in the magazine must all have had Children/Minion affiliations listed. Same with the guys with profiles in ''The Wreckers'' #2 &quot;[[Betrayal]]&quot; director's cut. All of their profiles in that issue seem to mark them as Children/Minions despite them not appearing in the main ''Universe'' comic. If you or anyone you know has the original publications, could you check them? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 17:29, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yeah, ok, dug out my old issues. Sure 'nuff, that's where it's from. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 21:31, 31 July 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Thank you. And if I may ask, can Dreadwind and Smokejumper's profiles in the 3H club magazine retroactively be assigned to their RID or Armada incarnations? And what about the profile for Sam's Club Optimus Prime? The wiki's page for [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] cites the profile in saying that as a member of the Dimensional Patrol, he was abducted along with Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus, but Side Burn is not among the escapees in [[:File:TFUjailbreak.jpg|the jailbreak scene in &quot;Escape&quot;]]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:31, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::Nothing in Dreadwind or Smokejumper incarnations specifies where they might be from. Sam's Club Optimus is definitely a Robots in Disguise bot, with explicit reference to capturing Galvatron and delivering him to Cybertron. After this, he studied &quot;xeno-biological ecosystems throughout the universe&quot; until &quot;evil threatened the temporal and spacial nexus located near the planet Earth,&quot; whereupon he rejoined his comrades on Earth and founded the Dimensional Patrol, &quot;a team of transwarp specialsts and rnowned warriors from the Autobot ranks.&quot; No mention is given as to who's on the team. It's definitely pre-Universe, as Unicron grabbed him and other members of the Dimensional Patrol to participate in the Universe War. <br /> :::Tell you what... you make a skeleton page for the Dimensional Patrol, I'll fill in the details.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 00:42, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::Gotcha. And I'm going to go with Armada for Children of Primus Dreadwind and Smokejumper because the profiles are in the same issue as the MegaWing Galvatron instructions and because RID Dreadwind and Smokejumper are not among the Shell Game Decepticons mentioned in Ask Vector Prime. And I'll take off the Dimensional Patrol detail from Side Burn's page because he's not mentioned in the Sam's Club Optimus profile. And also because a regular colored one, plausibly the cartoon one, appeared freshly abducted in the 2004 OTFCC voice actor play. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:51, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::Good, I was going to suggest you remove that from Side Burn, since it's a reasonable inference (perhaps as a note), but not definite. BTW, is there some way I could chat with you off-line about some of this stuff? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 01:00, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::::::How about email? Do you use the one listed on Disciples of Boltax? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 01:23, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> :::::::Yup, that's a good one. The same one we stick in the acknowledgment pages of all of our books.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 01:25, 1 August 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Transformers Cybertron: Primus Unleashed==<br /> I want to ask something, is [[Aurex 006.0 Kappa]] the flash Game Primus Unleashed? I'm asking this because I'm not too sure but I assumed its the universe of that flash game because Vector Prime's answer was about Unicron Singularity, like in the game and since you're the writer of Ask Vector Prime, I wanted to ask.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 08:20, 30 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> :Yes, that was my intention. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 11:00, 30 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> ::Ok thanks.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 11:59, 30 September 2015 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Universe Soundwave and Space Case==<br /> Question. For the past few months, you and other writers on Ask Vector Prime have revealed the universal origins and backstory of some of the Autobots and Decepticons that were released in the Transformers Universe (2003) toyline(and let me give you a big thank you for revealing those backstories, especially for the ones that were part of the 2001 Robots in Disguise continuity). However, the only Universe toys that didn't get a backstory were Soundwave and Space Case. Let me add Air Raid(who came packaged with Wind Sheer)too while I am it. People ask on AVP for their backstory and universe of origin, but no answer is provided about them. Is there a specific reason for this? I'm just curious. Keep up the good work! [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 18:31, 14 December 2015 (EDT)</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ulchtar&diff=1029434 2015-12-02T20:56:57Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> [[File:EnergonWithin megatron orders.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s who could combine into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===Spacewarp's Log===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claimed to know Ulchtar. According to her, Ulchtar was [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]'s right hand 'bot. He defected to the Autobots for a time, returned to the Decepticons, died while attacking &quot;[[Unicron|El Giant Planeto]]&quot;, was resurrected by [[Alpha Quintesson|Alpha Q]] without memories, died again, was resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, and then vanished into a giant energy rift. [[Starscream (Armada)|Hmmm]]... {{storylink|Spacewarp's Log}}<br /> <br /> ==Games==<br /> ===The Energon Within===<br /> [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] ordered Ulchtar (or possibly [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]) to secure 100 [[energon cube]]s from an Autobot mine. He did so successfully, though many Decepticon troops were destroyed in the process. And he got a verbal drubbing from Megatron anyway. {{storylink|Transformers Armada: The Energon Within|The Energon Within}}<br /> {{Note|There is nothing in the game itself to indicate that the character who looks like Starscream is anything other than Starscream. [[Ask Vector Prime]], however, describes Ulchtar as a &quot;Starscream analog&quot;, and [[Spacewarp's Log]] further gives Ulchtar a history identical to Starscream's. Ask Vector Prime writer [[user:Escargon|Escargon]] would eventually confirm this interpretation after an entirely-too-long argument.}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> *&quot;Ulchtar&quot; was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]] and the character himself is based on [[Starscream (Armada)|Unicron Trilogy Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit in ''The AllSpark Almanac'' is a reference to the Generation 1 cartoon episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, in which Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of the 'bots who would become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]]s.<br /> *The art on the right is from [[Bill Forster]]'s Deviant Art page, but as it pertains to this wiki it amounts to little more than fan art as Ulchtar has (probably) not appeared visually in any official fiction. But we're sure it'll be made official in like twenty minutes after someone goes and asks Spacewarp or whoever what he looks like because that's just how the damn wiki is now, forever. <br /> <br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Cybertron Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Energon Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Fiction-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ulchtar&diff=1028722 2015-11-30T18:40:12Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>Which continuity would Aurex 602.0 Kappa be? Closest match I could find was Aurex 603.0 Kappa, the [[Transformers Armada: The Energon Within|Energon Within]] online game. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:30, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Typo, sorry! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:36, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah. Given the stream is still a redlink, I wonder if it's worth pointing out his &quot;continuity&quot; of origin in the Notes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :::Nevermind... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:43, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Origin ==<br /> <br /> Looking at the Energon Within page, I'd say Ulchtar here appears to be one of the generic jets, thus his distinct resemblance to Armada Starscream despite appearing in an Armada continuity.[[User:Pirateblue|Pirateblue]] ([[User talk:Pirateblue|talk]]) 09:51, 8 June 2014 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Merge?==<br /> Based on Spacewarp's description, it sounds like Ulchtar basically is Armada Starscream, just with a different name. Should we merge? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:17, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :I say leave it as is due to the fact that he's known under a different name and his involvement with the Combatibots --[[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 16:29, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::Yeah, he's pretty clearly a counterpart to Starscream. I say merge. Also, I don't remember that picture showing up in the Almanac - it doesn't seem to be in my Complete Almanac, at any rate. It should probably be deleted if it isn't in there. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 17:25, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::This is almost certainly the case. As for the picture itself, it comes from the Alt2day website, so it's not canon. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:32, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::So then it's not a valid picture? The picture's page says it comes from the DeviantArt page of Bill Forster, one of the Almanac's authors. And we use authors' online pictures for characters such as [[Proxima]], [[Roadmaster]], and the DJD. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 20:51, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::I've always been a little wary of using model sheets, etc since they aren't officially published material, but it's probably fine since they're official designs. This, though, is basically fan art; it hasn't been used in anything official. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:12, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::47 has a good point about the eligibility of the picture. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 21:48, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::::I think the difference here is that those designs are used in official comics. (Not really arguing one way or the other; I really don't care about the image or the fate this article.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:50, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> you guys why --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 01:55, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> I don't understand the suggestion. Should we merge this page with ''what''? UT Starscream's page? When this isn't a UT character? Animated Starscream, when he's a different guy? Am I missing something? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 02:05, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :Ulchtar is explicitly from Aurex. What they're proposing is merging this with UT Starscream. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 03:31, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::Okay, that's what I missed then. I thought a character from the Almanac with an Animated-style picture was supposed to be from Animated, that he was the Animated version of Armada Starscream, with a different name to distinguish him from the main Animated Screamer. Anyway. Merge? No. Why. Pointless. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 22:04, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::I wouldn't say I'm proposing it. It was just clear to me that Ulchtar is being used as a variant name for Starscream, sort of like Jazz/Meister, or Bluestreak/Silverstreak. I was attempting to grapple with the implications of that. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 09:24, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> I change my mind. While I acknowledge that Ulchtars are basically UT Starscreams with a different name, I think his name is cool enough to keep at his own page. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:19, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> Ulchtar comes from the ''Energon Within'' online game continuity. Starscream appears in the flash comic strip introduction and epilogue to ''Energon Within''. Ergo, Ulchtar is not Starscream. Theoretically, Ulchtar is probably one of the endless waves of Starscream-colored generics attacking the energon mine for the Decepticons, until he got wise to the suicide mission and hopped realities, as one does. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 07:33, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :Well, no. Someone who looks just like Starscream and Ulchtar appears in the game, but is never identified by name. [https://youtu.be/G5L1I5kQ6iU] --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 08:14, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :: Megatron, Hot Shot, and Optimus Prime are all identified by name, so it's not a reality where recognizable characters are given different names en masse. If you wish to be obnoxiously technical about this, the Seeker-type who appears in ''Energon Within'' looks like ''Armada'' Starscream. Officially, technically, we have no idea what Ulchtar looks like, since he has never received a canonically approved visual representation. Ergo, there is no canonical evidence the Seeker is anyone other than who he appears to be, Starscream, and there certainly wasn't any author intent at the time of the game's creation to indicate he was supposed to be Ulchtar. Unofficially, if we were to recognize the unapproved DeviantArt image of Ulchtar as an accurate representation of said character then still, technically, he does not look like the character from ''Energon Within'' -- he looks like a modified version of ''Animated'' Starscream, not identical to ''Armada'' Starscream like the ''Energon Within'' Seeker. In Transformers in general and with Seekers in particular, a different name and slightly different colors/body-type is enough to make a separate character. A Rose by any other name is still a Rose; A Seeker by any other name ''is a different Seeker''. Furthermore, precedent exists for nigh-identical characters to exist in the same reality, differentiated only by foreign or preliminary names, such as [[Ego]] or [[Morsa]]. This is further relevant for the ''Energon Within'' micro-continuity, which explicitly contains literally countless Decepticons of similar body-type to Starscream, per the game's mechanics.<br /> :: Now. Stop. Talking. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:08, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::Actually, Vector Prime describes Ulchtar as a &quot;Starscream analog&quot;. That's at least some evidence that they might well look alike. And there's nothing really different about the Forster design that can't be chalked up to style.<br /> :::Now. Stop. Talking. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 09:26, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::Exactly -- &quot;Some&quot; evidence that they &quot;might&quot; look alike. Your own phrasing of your own argument is vague and non-committal. You're not even 100% convinced of this idea, yet you're wasting the time and energy of multiple contributors with this absolutely pointless discussion. <br /> ::::Before you say anything more, please, please, ''please'' stop to ask two questions first. One, would moving [[Ulchtar]] to [[Starscream (Armada)]] ''benefit'' anyone on the Wiki, from the casual visitor to the dedicated contributor? Second, does having Ulchtar and Starscream (Armada) on separate pages ''hurt'' the comprehension or enjoyment of the Wiki by anyone? If the answer to either of those questions is &quot;Yes&quot;, tell me how and I will listen. If the answer to both questions is &quot;No&quot;, however, '''''then what are we even doing here?!?!'''''<br /> ::::I ''like'' [[Ask Vector Prime]]. I enjoy naming the nameless, identifying the unidentified, and formalizing connections that were in most people's head-canon already anyway. But it's all in the name of streamlining information and making it easier to understand, or access. What you're doing is trying to move things just for the sake of moving them.<br /> ::::Be ''helpful''; don't just be ''busy''. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:37, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::OK, very well said. Specifically, the two enumerated questions you pose. I agree that it's probably best to keep them separate. I'm also convinced, based on the Almanac, Ask Vector Prime, and Spacewarp's Log, that the character that showed up in Energon Within was retconned to be &quot;Ulchtar&quot;, a guy who looks exactly like Starscream and shares his history, not unlike the distinction (or lack thereof) between Convoy/Optimus Prime or Octane/Tankor. But, based on the arguments you've outlined, I think that it's still worth keeping them apart, one of those cases where we make an exception due to readability rather than blindly follow our own self-imposed rules. The main reason I argued with you that last time was that you tweaked me the wrong way with your rudeness. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 11:10, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::::Acknowledging and apologizing. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 11:34, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::::Accepted and forgotten. I overreacted. You really did make a very well structured and convincing argument that last post. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 11:46, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> wow, how the hell did ''this'' of all pages become a massive argument --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 09:49, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :Excuse me while I add more fuel to the fire, but since Ulchtar is based on UT Starscream, does he count as a repurpose? [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]] 13:39, 30 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ==Toys==<br /> Could someone explain to me why its a problem for me to add a link here that leads directly to UT Starscream toys section, especially when Ulchtar is clearly based on UT Starscream? [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 20:41, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> : HEY GUESS WHAT YOU CAN ALSO REACH THAT INFORMATION THROUGH THE &quot;ULCHTAR IS BASED ON UT STARSCREAM&quot; LINK IN THE NOTES --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:32, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::seriously all of you are going to make me LOSE MY MIND --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:32, 29 November 2015 (EST)</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ulchtar&diff=1028579 2015-11-30T01:45:39Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Toys */</p> <hr /> <div>Which continuity would Aurex 602.0 Kappa be? Closest match I could find was Aurex 603.0 Kappa, the [[Transformers Armada: The Energon Within|Energon Within]] online game. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:30, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Typo, sorry! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:36, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah. Given the stream is still a redlink, I wonder if it's worth pointing out his &quot;continuity&quot; of origin in the Notes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :::Nevermind... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:43, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Origin ==<br /> <br /> Looking at the Energon Within page, I'd say Ulchtar here appears to be one of the generic jets, thus his distinct resemblance to Armada Starscream despite appearing in an Armada continuity.[[User:Pirateblue|Pirateblue]] ([[User talk:Pirateblue|talk]]) 09:51, 8 June 2014 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Merge?==<br /> Based on Spacewarp's description, it sounds like Ulchtar basically is Armada Starscream, just with a different name. Should we merge? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:17, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :I say leave it as is due to the fact that he's known under a different name and his involvement with the Combatibots --[[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 16:29, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::Yeah, he's pretty clearly a counterpart to Starscream. I say merge. Also, I don't remember that picture showing up in the Almanac - it doesn't seem to be in my Complete Almanac, at any rate. It should probably be deleted if it isn't in there. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 17:25, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::This is almost certainly the case. As for the picture itself, it comes from the Alt2day website, so it's not canon. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:32, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::So then it's not a valid picture? The picture's page says it comes from the DeviantArt page of Bill Forster, one of the Almanac's authors. And we use authors' online pictures for characters such as [[Proxima]], [[Roadmaster]], and the DJD. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 20:51, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::I've always been a little wary of using model sheets, etc since they aren't officially published material, but it's probably fine since they're official designs. This, though, is basically fan art; it hasn't been used in anything official. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:12, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::47 has a good point about the eligibility of the picture. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 21:48, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::::I think the difference here is that those designs are used in official comics. (Not really arguing one way or the other; I really don't care about the image or the fate this article.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:50, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> you guys why --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 01:55, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> I don't understand the suggestion. Should we merge this page with ''what''? UT Starscream's page? When this isn't a UT character? Animated Starscream, when he's a different guy? Am I missing something? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 02:05, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :Ulchtar is explicitly from Aurex. What they're proposing is merging this with UT Starscream. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 03:31, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::I wouldn't say I'm proposing it. It was just clear to me that Ulchtar is being used as a variant name for Starscream, sort of like Jazz/Meister, or Bluestreak/Silverstreak. I was attempting to grapple with the implications of that. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 09:24, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> Could someone explain to me why its a problem for me to add a link here that leads directly to UT Starscream toys section, especially when Ulchtar is clearly based on UT Starscream? [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 20:41, 29 November 2015 (EST)</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ulchtar&diff=1028578 2015-11-30T01:45:07Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Toys */</p> <hr /> <div>Which continuity would Aurex 602.0 Kappa be? Closest match I could find was Aurex 603.0 Kappa, the [[Transformers Armada: The Energon Within|Energon Within]] online game. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:30, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Typo, sorry! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:36, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah. Given the stream is still a redlink, I wonder if it's worth pointing out his &quot;continuity&quot; of origin in the Notes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :::Nevermind... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:43, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Origin ==<br /> <br /> Looking at the Energon Within page, I'd say Ulchtar here appears to be one of the generic jets, thus his distinct resemblance to Armada Starscream despite appearing in an Armada continuity.[[User:Pirateblue|Pirateblue]] ([[User talk:Pirateblue|talk]]) 09:51, 8 June 2014 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Merge?==<br /> Based on Spacewarp's description, it sounds like Ulchtar basically is Armada Starscream, just with a different name. Should we merge? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:17, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :I say leave it as is due to the fact that he's known under a different name and his involvement with the Combatibots --[[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 16:29, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::Yeah, he's pretty clearly a counterpart to Starscream. I say merge. Also, I don't remember that picture showing up in the Almanac - it doesn't seem to be in my Complete Almanac, at any rate. It should probably be deleted if it isn't in there. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 17:25, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::This is almost certainly the case. As for the picture itself, it comes from the Alt2day website, so it's not canon. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:32, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::So then it's not a valid picture? The picture's page says it comes from the DeviantArt page of Bill Forster, one of the Almanac's authors. And we use authors' online pictures for characters such as [[Proxima]], [[Roadmaster]], and the DJD. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 20:51, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::I've always been a little wary of using model sheets, etc since they aren't officially published material, but it's probably fine since they're official designs. This, though, is basically fan art; it hasn't been used in anything official. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:12, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::47 has a good point about the eligibility of the picture. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 21:48, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::::I think the difference here is that those designs are used in official comics. (Not really arguing one way or the other; I really don't care about the image or the fate this article.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:50, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> you guys why --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 01:55, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> I don't understand the suggestion. Should we merge this page with ''what''? UT Starscream's page? When this isn't a UT character? Animated Starscream, when he's a different guy? Am I missing something? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 02:05, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :Ulchtar is explicitly from Aurex. What they're proposing is merging this with UT Starscream. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 03:31, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::I wouldn't say I'm proposing it. It was just clear to me that Ulchtar is being used as a variant name for Starscream, sort of like Jazz/Meister, or Bluestreak/Silverstreak. I was attempting to grapple with the implications of that. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 09:24, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> Could someone explain to me why its a problem for me to add a link here directly to UT Starscream toys section, especially when Ulchtar is clearly based on UT Starscream? [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 20:41, 29 November 2015 (EST)</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ulchtar&diff=1028577 2015-11-30T01:42:26Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>Which continuity would Aurex 602.0 Kappa be? Closest match I could find was Aurex 603.0 Kappa, the [[Transformers Armada: The Energon Within|Energon Within]] online game. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:30, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Typo, sorry! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:36, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah. Given the stream is still a redlink, I wonder if it's worth pointing out his &quot;continuity&quot; of origin in the Notes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :::Nevermind... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:43, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Origin ==<br /> <br /> Looking at the Energon Within page, I'd say Ulchtar here appears to be one of the generic jets, thus his distinct resemblance to Armada Starscream despite appearing in an Armada continuity.[[User:Pirateblue|Pirateblue]] ([[User talk:Pirateblue|talk]]) 09:51, 8 June 2014 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Merge?==<br /> Based on Spacewarp's description, it sounds like Ulchtar basically is Armada Starscream, just with a different name. Should we merge? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:17, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :I say leave it as is due to the fact that he's known under a different name and his involvement with the Combatibots --[[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 16:29, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::Yeah, he's pretty clearly a counterpart to Starscream. I say merge. Also, I don't remember that picture showing up in the Almanac - it doesn't seem to be in my Complete Almanac, at any rate. It should probably be deleted if it isn't in there. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 17:25, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::This is almost certainly the case. As for the picture itself, it comes from the Alt2day website, so it's not canon. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:32, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::So then it's not a valid picture? The picture's page says it comes from the DeviantArt page of Bill Forster, one of the Almanac's authors. And we use authors' online pictures for characters such as [[Proxima]], [[Roadmaster]], and the DJD. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 20:51, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::I've always been a little wary of using model sheets, etc since they aren't officially published material, but it's probably fine since they're official designs. This, though, is basically fan art; it hasn't been used in anything official. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:12, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :::::47 has a good point about the eligibility of the picture. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 21:48, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::::::I think the difference here is that those designs are used in official comics. (Not really arguing one way or the other; I really don't care about the image or the fate this article.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:50, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> you guys why --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 01:55, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> I don't understand the suggestion. Should we merge this page with ''what''? UT Starscream's page? When this isn't a UT character? Animated Starscream, when he's a different guy? Am I missing something? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 02:05, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> :Ulchtar is explicitly from Aurex. What they're proposing is merging this with UT Starscream. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 03:31, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> ::I wouldn't say I'm proposing it. It was just clear to me that Ulchtar is being used as a variant name for Starscream, sort of like Jazz/Meister, or Bluestreak/Silverstreak. I was attempting to grapple with the implications of that. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 09:24, 29 November 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> Could some explain to me why its a problem for me to add a link here directly to UT Starscream toys section, especially when Ulchtar is clearly based on UT Starscream? [[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 20:41, 29 November 2015 (EST)</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ulchtar&diff=1028151 2015-11-29T01:33:20Z

<p>Crossblades: Undo revision 1028150 by Escargon (talk)</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claimed to know Ulchtar. She mentioned that Ulchtar was [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron's]] right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron|&quot;El Giant Planeto&quot;]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. [[Starscream (Armada)|Hmmm]]..... {{Storylink|Spacewarp's Log}}<br /> <br /> =Toys=<br /> <br /> :''See: [[Starscream (Armada)#Toys]]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Cybertron Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Energon Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Fiction-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ulchtar&diff=1028148 2015-11-29T01:31:46Z

<p>Crossblades: Undo revision 1028147 by Escargon (talk)</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claimed to know Ulchtar. She mentioned that Ulchtar was [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron's]] right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron|&quot;El Giant Planeto&quot;]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. [[Starscream (Armada)|Hmmm]]..... {{Storylink|Spacewarp's Log}}<br /> <br /> =Toys=<br /> <br /> :''See: [[Starscream (Armada)#Toys]]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Cybertron Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Energon Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Fiction-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ulchtar&diff=1028146 2015-11-29T01:25:10Z

<p>Crossblades: Same guy as the all spark almanac. Leave it</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claimed to know Ulchtar. She mentioned that Ulchtar was [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron's]] right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron|&quot;El Giant Planeto&quot;]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. [[Starscream (Armada)|Hmmm]]..... {{Storylink|Spacewarp's Log}}<br /> <br /> =Toys=<br /> <br /> :''See: [[Starscream (Armada)#Toys]]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Cybertron Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Energon Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Fiction-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Ulchtar&diff=1028075 2015-11-28T21:29:52Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Merge? */</p> <hr /> <div>Which continuity would Aurex 602.0 Kappa be? Closest match I could find was Aurex 603.0 Kappa, the [[Transformers Armada: The Energon Within|Energon Within]] online game. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:30, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :Typo, sorry! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:36, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> ::Ah. Given the stream is still a redlink, I wonder if it's worth pointing out his &quot;continuity&quot; of origin in the Notes. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:42, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> :::Nevermind... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:43, 10 August 2011 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Origin ==<br /> <br /> Looking at the Energon Within page, I'd say Ulchtar here appears to be one of the generic jets, thus his distinct resemblance to Armada Starscream despite appearing in an Armada continuity.[[User:Pirateblue|Pirateblue]] ([[User talk:Pirateblue|talk]]) 09:51, 8 June 2014 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Merge?==<br /> Based on Spacewarp's description, it sounds like Ulchtar basically is Armada Starscream, just with a different name. Should we merge? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:17, 28 November 2015 (EST)<br /> <br /> :I say leave it as is due to the fact that he's known under a different name and his involvement with the Combatibots --[[User:Crossblades|Crossblades]] ([[User talk:Crossblades|talk]]) 16:29, 28 November 2015 (EST)</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ulchtar&diff=1028074 2015-11-28T21:21:17Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Spacewarp&#039;s Log */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claims to know Ulchtar. She mentions that Ulchtar was [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron's]] right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron|&quot;El Giant Planeto&quot;]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. [[Starscream (Armada)|Hmmm]]..... {{Storylink|Spacewarp's Log}}<br /> <br /> =Toys=<br /> <br /> :''See: [[Starscream (Armada)#Toys]]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Cybertron Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Energon Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Fiction-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ulchtar&diff=1028070 2015-11-28T21:00:17Z

<p>Crossblades: Undo revision 1028068 by Sabrblade (talk)</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claims to know Ulchtar. She mentions that Ulchtar was Megatron's right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron|&quot;El Giant Planeto&quot;]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. [[Starscream (Armada)|Hmmm]]..... {{Storylink|Spacewarp's Log}}<br /> <br /> =Toys=<br /> <br /> :''See: [[Starscream (Armada)#Toys]]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Almanac-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Cybertron Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Energon Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ulchtar&diff=1028069 2015-11-28T20:59:20Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claims to know Ulchtar. She mentions that Ulchtar was Megatron's right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron|&quot;El Giant Planeto&quot;]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. [[Starscream (Armada)|Hmmm]]..... {{Storylink|Spacewarp's Log}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Almanac-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Cybertron Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Energon Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]</div>

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<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claims to know Ulchtar. She mentions that Ulchtar was Megatron's right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron|&quot;El Giant Planeto&quot;]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. [[Starscream (Armada)|Hmmm]]..... {{Storylink|Spacewarp's Log}}<br /> <br /> =Toys=<br /> <br /> :''See: [[Starscream (Armada)#Toys]]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Almanac-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]</div>

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<p>Crossblades: /* Spacewarp&#039;s Log */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claims to know Ulchtar. She mentions that Ulchtar was Megatron's right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron|&quot;El Giant Planeto&quot;]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. [[Starscream (Armada)|Hmmm]]..... {{Storylink|Spacewarp's Log}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Almanac-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ulchtar&diff=1028060 2015-11-28T20:16:10Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Spacewarp&#039;s Log */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claims to know Ulchtar. She mentions that Ulchtar was Megatron's right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. Suspiciously, these adventures also happened to a certain [[Starscream (Armada)|someone]]. Hmmm..... {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Spacewarp's log|Spacewarp's log}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Almanac-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Ulchtar&diff=1028057 2015-11-28T20:12:06Z

<p>Crossblades: /* Spacewarp&#039;s Log */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claims to know Ulchtar. She mentions that Ulchtar was Megatron's right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. Suspiciously, these adventures also happened to a certain [[Starscream (Armada)|someone]]. Hmmm..... {{Storylink|Spacewarp's log}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Almanac-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]</div>

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<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|decepticon}}<br /> <br /> :''Ulchtar is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].<br /> <br /> [[Image:AAII Ulchtar.jpg|thumb|200px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Ulchtar''' has ambitions!<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''The AllSpark Almanac''===<br /> The Ulchtar of [[Aurex 603.0 Kappa]] broke into [[Primax 388.0 Gamma]] [[Micro|Zone]]'s [[Planet Micro Satellite Penitentiary|Satellite Penitentiary]]. There, he retrieved the [[personality component]]s of renegade [[Autobot]]s [[Screechwing]], [[Spiketail]], [[Nightprowler]], [[Albitron]], and [[Leatherhide (Universe)|Leatherhide]], forming the [[Combatibot]]s that could form into [[Toxitron (Zone)|Toxitron]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}<br /> <br /> ===''Spacewarp's Log''===<br /> [[Spacewarp]] claims to know Ulchtar. She mentions that Ulchtar was Megatron's right hand bot, defected to the Autobots for a while, then returned to the Decepticons, died attacking [[Unicron]], was resurrected by [[Alpha Q]] without memories, died and resurrected again, betrayed Megatron once again, turned into a giant, then vanished into a giant energy rift. Suspiciously, these adventures also happened to a certain [[Starscream (Armada)|someone]]. Hmmm..... {{storylink|Spacewarp's log}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Ulchtar was a preliminary name for [[Starscream (G1)|Generation 1 Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar is based on ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]].<br /> *Ulchtar's exploit is a reference to the Generation One episode &quot;[[Starscream's Brigade]]&quot;, where Starscream travels to Cybertron to retrieve the personality components of who-would-become the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Almanac-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Armada Decepticons]]<br /> [[Category:Dimension hoppers]]<br /> [[Category:Zone Decepticons]]</div>

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<p>Crossblades: /* Notes */</p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|predaconrid|ozsa}}<br /> {{disambig3|Bruticus}}<br /> :''Bruticus is a [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'']] [[continuity family]].''<br /> [[File:Ridbruticustechspec.jpg|right|upright=1.4|thumb|So, I taste my own genitals. In my mouth. It's a... conundrum.]]<br /> <br /> The brutal '''Bruticus''' tirelessly guards the prisons of the Predacon leader [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]. He's got just enough brains between his three slobbering heads to do his very simple job: make sure [[Autobot]] prisoners don't escape, and if they do, smash them. His short fuse and lack of imagination qualify him only for this sort of trivial work, but Bruticus doesn't mind. He takes his job very seriously.<br /> {{TOCclear}}<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===''TransTech''===<br /> [[File:BruticusandHound-CMW.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1]]<br /> Bruticus liked to attend [[Gutcruncher (G1)|Gutcruncher]]'s meetings. {{storylink|Gone Too Far}}<br /> <br /> Another Bruticus worked at the [[Axiom Nexus Security Administration|Offworlder Zone Security Administration]]. When the [[Waruder]]s caused a blackout throughout [[Axiom Nexus]], Bruticus was appointed by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|General Optimus Prime]] to watch over the prisoners. {{storylink|Cybertron's Most Wanted}}<br /> <br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> According to a story that [[Vector Prime (Cybertron)|Vector Prime]] heard in Axiom Nexus, in one [[Primax]] reality, most of the Earthbound Autobots left the planet to deal with the rise of Bruticus, leaving the planet relatively undefended. This became problematic when the [[Mutant (G1)|Mutant]] prophet [[Chainsaw]] led the Mutants to &quot;the promised land,&quot; aka Earth. <br /> <br /> In [[Viron 102.0 Beta]], the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] extracted Bruticus from the [[Intruder|Intruder Empire]]. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Robots in Disguise (2001)===<br /> [[File:RID Bruticus Toy.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Ace the Bat-Hound]]<br /> *'''Bruticus''' (Deluxe, 2001)<br /> **''Accessories'': Tail-flail<br /> <br /> : Bruticus transforms into [[wikipedia:Cerberus|Cerberus]], a mythical three-headed dog. His [[robot mode]] continues the motif, with three different dog-shaped faces on his head. His [[beast mode]] hind legs, which end up on his robot mode back, can unfold into a second pair of arms, each one brandishing a (non-removable) melee weapon. His triple tail becomes a flail weapon for robot mode.<br /> <br /> : Bruticus's mold was originally developed to be a [[Maximal]] for the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' series. When that series was cut short, apparently the toy had made it far enough into the development process to continue. He has a flip-up chestplate that reveals indications of an intended spark-crystal-activated gimmick (as all second-year ''Beast Machines'' toys had). But this gimmick was seemingly abandoned, and it is unknown just what it was meant to do; it has been suggested, due to the shoulder design of the figure, the gimmick would have involved some kind of lunging attack with the two side heads (the ones that turn into the main robot arms) in beast mode when the center head was pressed down.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Predacon/Bruticus/bruticus.htm More information on Bruticus at TFU.info]''<br /> {{-}}<br /> <br /> ===Universe (2008)===<br /> [[File:Universe2008 RID Bruticus.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Just barely beating out [[Acid Storm]] for &quot;Unlikeliest Character Homage of 2008&quot;.]]<br /> *'''Predacon Bruticus''' (Ultra, 2008)<br /> **''Accessories'': Tail-axe, key<br /> <br /> : &quot;Robots in Disguise Series&quot; Predacon Bruticus is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]], transforming into a robotic dragon. Pressing the button on his neck activates an electronic roaring sound and red [[Light-emitting diode|LED]] in his head. Inserting a [[Cyber Key]] into the slot on his back activates a the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] transformation sound effect and flips out two smaller dragon heads, one on each side of his neck. Pressing the button on his neck now activates a laser blast sound (along with the LED lights).<br /> <br /> : In robot mode, he is armed with a massive axe formed from his tail which can be held in either fist. Inserting a Cyber Key in robot mode is the same as in beast mode, giving him shoulder-mounted dragon-heads. He includes a silver-bordered, Jungle Planet Cyber Key.<br /> <br /> : In [[Australia]], Predacon Bruticus was available at hilariously-overstocked quantities as a [[Toys&quot;R&quot;Us]]-[[exclusive]]. While he is no longer available, there is no way to know if they actually sold them.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/PredaconBruticus/predaconbruticus.htm More information on Predacon Bruticus at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> [[File:RoverTheHellhound.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|ROVER THE HELLHOUND! Less primary, more... uh... clash-y.]]<br /> * 2001 Bruticus was the first ''Transformers'' color layout done by [[Aaron Archer]].<br /> * It is possible, though difficult, to arrange the &quot;bat wings&quot; of 2001 Bruticus's robot head to effectively make any of his three faces the &quot;primary&quot; one (the one that faces forward); what this accomplishes is unknown, aside from an obscure [[Quintesson]] reference.<br /> * Similarly, the transformation design of 2001 Bruticus's figure gives it an unofficial &quot;centaur&quot; mode; what ''this'' accomplishes, aside from being quaint, is equally unknown.<br /> * Copies of Bruticus's design artwork, along with a handful of other Hasbro ''Beast Machines'' and ''[[Transtech]]'' design drawings, periodically show up for sale at [[BotCon]].<br /> <br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:TransTech Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Universe (2008)]]</div>

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<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{faction|sgAutobot}}<br /> {{disambig3.5|the evil Autobot combiner|his heroic counterpart|Superion (G1)|Superion}}<br /> :''Superion is a evil [[Autobot]] [[combiner]] from the [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[File:AnotherLightPt3-Shattered Glass Superion.jpg|thumb|200px]]<br /> '''Superion''' is an evil Autobot combiner. Despite that, he's not very imposing.<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> {{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Memory's Splinter}}}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Micromaster===<br /> [[Image:Sixwing-2002toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br /> *'''Sixwing''' (2003)<br /> {{note|Superion was [[repurposing|repurposed]] from ''Micromaster'' [[Sixwing]].}}<br /> *'''Chain Gun''' (Micromaster, 2003)<br /> *'''Missile Run''' (Micromaster, 2003)<br /> *'''Raker''' (Micromaster, 2003)<br /> *'''Supersonic''' (Micromaster, 2003)<br /> *'''Flanker''' (Micromaster, 2003)<br /> *'''Falcon''' (Micromaster, 2003)<br /> <br /> : In 2003, the entire Sixwing team was extensively [[redeco]]ed as part of the third assortment of ''[[The Transformers: Micromaster]]'' toys, in individual boxes with a number visible to show which mold was inside each box. <br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Destron/Sixwing/sixwing.htm More information on Destron Sixwing at TFU.info]''<br /> ::*''[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/1230/Collectors+Edition+Japanese/Six+Wing.html Destron Sixwing toy gallery at Transformertoys.co.uk]'' <br /> <br /> [[Category:Combined forms]]<br /> [[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Repurposed toys]]<br /> [[Category:Shattered Glass Autobots]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Scoutlauncher&diff=1019332 2015-10-28T20:20:29Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Scoutlauncher is an [[Autobot]] turned [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Bot]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Autolauncher-card.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br /> '''Scoutlauncher''' (스카우트레인쳐 ''Seukauteureinchyeo'') is an Assault Guard and a member of the [[Scoutforce]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> The Scoutforce were guards at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited were the Scoutforce. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[Image:BWII-toy Autolauncher.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]<br /> * '''Scoutforce''' (2003)<br /> **''ID number'': '''D-20'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Launcher rifle, 2 missiles, 4 discs<br /> <br /> : Scoutlauncher is a Korean reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Autolauncher]]. He transforms into an armored personnel carrier. He has a disc-launcher in his front end/robot chest that is activated by the front wheels, with a switch to allow him to roll without firing. He also has a small hand-held spring-loaded missile launcher that stores in his trunk. Like [[Scoutjet]], he has a three-setting switch that changes how the toy reacts to being rolled on a smooth surface. In the center setting, it rolls free in whichever mode it’s in. The other two activate the toy’s auto-transforming gimmick; with the switch to the left, the toy transforms from robot to APC when rolled forward (and back when rolled in reverse), while the right position transforms him from APC to robot when rolled forward (and back when in reverse).<br /> <br /> :Scoutlauncher was only available in a &quot;Scoutforce&quot; multipack with [[Scoutslasher]], [[Scoutjet]], and [[Scoutstinger]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Autolauncher/autolauncher.htm More information on Scoutlauncher (Autolauncher) at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Scoutlauncher comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Scoutjet&diff=1019331 2015-10-28T20:19:37Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Scoutjet is an [[Autobot]] turned [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Bot]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Autojetter-card.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br /> '''Scoutjet''' (스카우트제트 ''Seukauteujeteu'') is an Aerial Guard and a member of the [[Scoutforce]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> The Scoutforce were guards at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited were the Scoutforce. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[Image:BWII-toy Autojetter.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]<br /> * '''Scoutforce''' (2003)<br /> **''ID number'': '''D-19'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 6 missiles<br /> <br /> : Scoutjet is a reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Autojetter]]. Scoutjet transforms into an [[Wikipedia:F/A-18|F/A-18 fighter jet]] with a trio of pressure-launch missiles in each wing (activated by a sliding lever), which become his arms in robot mode. Like [[Scoutlauncher]], he has a three-setting switch that changes how the toy reacts to being rolled on a smooth surface. In the center setting, it rolls free in whichever mode it is in. The other two activate the toy's auto-transforming gimmick; with the switch to the left, the toy transforms from robot to jet when rolled forward (and back when rolled in reverse), while the right position transforms him from jet to robot when rolled forward (and back when in reverse).<br /> <br /> :Scoutjet was only available in a &quot;Scoutforce&quot; multipack with [[Scoutslasher]], [[Scoutstinger]], and [[Scoutlauncher]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Autojetter/autojetter.htm More information on Scoutjet (Autojetter) at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Scoutjet comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Scoutslasher&diff=1019330 2015-10-28T20:19:03Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Scoutslasher is an [[Autobot]] turned [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Bot]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Autocrusher-card.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br /> '''Scoutslasher''' (스카우트슬래셔 ''Seukauteuseullaesyeo'') is a Land Guard and a member of the [[Scoutforce]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> The Scoutforce were guards at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited were the Scoutforce. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[Image:BWII-toy Autocrasher.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]<br /> * '''Scoutforce''' (2003)<br /> **''ID number'': '''D-18'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 4 missiles<br /> <br /> : Scoutslasher is a Korean reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Autocrasher|Autocrusher]], a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Roadblock (G2)|Roadblock]]. Scoutslasher turns into a payloader. His robot mode has a spring-activated spinning saw blade on his left arm, and a spring-loaded missile launcher in the right. He has an auto-transforming gimmick activated by rolling his rear wheels; roll forward to go to robot mode, and back to payloader. A switch on his back end separates the gears of the gimmick, allowing him to roll freely in either mode.<br /> <br /> :Scoutslasher was only available in a &quot;Scoutforce&quot; multipack with [[Scoutstinger]], [[Scoutjet]], and [[Scoutlauncher]].<br /> <br /> : This mold was also intended to be used for &quot;[[Hound (G1)|Sgt. Hound]]&quot; in ''Generation 2'', but that release was canceled.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Autocrusher/autocrusher.htm More information on Scoutslasher (Autocrusher) at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Scoutslasher comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Scoutstinger&diff=1019329 2015-10-28T20:18:25Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Scoutstinger is an [[Autobot]] turned [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Bot]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Autostinger-card.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br /> '''Scoutstinger''' (스카우트스팅거 ''Seukauteuseutinggeo'') is the Captain of the [[Scoutforce]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> The Scoutforce were guards at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited were the Scoutforce. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[Image:BWII-toy Autostinger.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]<br /> * '''Scoutforce''' (2003)<br /> **''ID number'': '''D-17'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 4 missiles<br /> <br /> : Scoutstinger is a Korean reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Autostinger]], a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Dirtbag]]. Scoutstinger transforms into a dump truck. He has a twin spring-loaded missile launcher in his right arm, and a clamping &quot;stun gun&quot; claw on the left. He has an auto-transforming gimmick activated by rolling his rear wheels; roll forward to go to robot mode, and back to dump truck. A switch on his back end separates the gears of the gimmick, allowing him to roll freely in either mode.<br /> <br /> :Scoutstinger was only available in a &quot;Scoutforce&quot; multipack with [[Scoutslasher]], [[Scoutjet]], and [[Scoutlauncher]].<br /> <br /> : This mold was also intended to be used for &quot;[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|General Optimus Prime]]&quot; in ''Generation 2'', but that release was canceled.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Autostinger/autostinger.htm More information on Scoutstinger (Autostinger) at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Scoutstinger comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Scoutforce&diff=1019328 2015-10-28T20:17:58Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''The Scoutforce are an [[Autobot]] turned [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] subgroup from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Robots]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[File:Korean-Autorollers.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Scoutforce in Korean Car Bot packaging]]<br /> <br /> The '''Scoutforce''' (스카우트포스 ''Seukauteuposeu'') are a group of four former Autobots who defected to the Predacons.<br /> <br /> The Scoutforce include:<br /> *[[Scoutstinger]] (leader)<br /> *[[Scoutslasher]]<br /> *[[Scoutjet]]<br /> *[[Scoutlauncher]]<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> The Scoutforce were guards at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited were the Scoutforce. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> * '''Scoutforce''' (2003)<br /> : The Scoutforce are Korean reissues of the ''[[Beast Wars II (toyline)|Beast Wars II]]'' [[Autoroller]]s. They were all only available in a multipack.<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While the Scoutforce come in an Autobot-labeled box, they still retain all of their [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Autobot subgroups]]<br /> [[Category:Predacon subgroups]]<br /> [[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) subgroups]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Victory_Bomber&diff=1019327 2015-10-28T20:17:01Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Victory Bomber is an [[Autobot]] turned [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Bot]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[File:SonokongStealthSaberBox.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]<br /> '''Victory Bomber''' is [[Stealth Saber]]'s [[Amica Endura]], and can combine with him to form [[Stealth Bomber]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Stealth Saber apparently worked at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited was Victory Bomber. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[File:BW2 BB toy.jpg|upright=1.95|thumb|]]<br /> * '''Stealth Saber''' (Ultra, 2003)<br /> **''ID number:'' '''D-13'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 12 missiles<br /> <br /> : A reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[BB]] this toy is identical to the canceled ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron ATB]] with [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]. BB transforms into a &quot;flying wing&quot; style stealth bomber with under-slung six-missile Gatling cannon. Each wing holds three missiles, which can be dropped by pressing small buttons on the tops of the wings. He can also transform into a treaded &quot;tank&quot; mode. In jet form, he can combine with Stealth Saber's jet mode to make a complete aircraft. He and Stealth Saber always came as a pair.<br /> <br /> : This mold was also used to make ''Generation 2'' [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]], [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)]] [[Dreadwind (RID)|Dreadwind]], and ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' [[Gigant Bomb]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/BB/bb.htm More information on Victory Bomber (BB) at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *Victory Bomber apparently went unnamed in the &quot;Stealth Saber&quot; release. He did not receive a name till [[Ask Vector Prime]] gave him one years later.<br /> *While Victory Bomber comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Stealth_Saber&diff=1019326 2015-10-28T20:16:10Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Stealth Saber is an [[Autobot]] turned [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Bot]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[File:SonokongStealthSaberBox.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]<br /> '''Stealth Saber''' (스텔스세이버 ''Seutelseu Seibeo'') is a former [[Autobot]] [[Air Commander]]. He can combine with his [[Amica Endura]], [[Victory Bomber]], to form [[Stealth Bomber]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Stealth Saber was second-in-command at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited was Stealth Saber. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[File:BW2 Starscream toy.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]<br /> * '''Stealth Saber''' (Ultra, 2003)<br /> **''ID number:'' '''D-13'''<br /> **''Accessories:'' 2 missile launchers, 2 missiles<br /> <br /> : A reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Starscream (BWII)|Starscream]] for Korean markets, Stealth Saber is a recolor of [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] with [[Smokescreen (G2)|Smokescreen]], this toy is nearly identical to the unreleased ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron ATB]] with [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]] toy. Stealth Saber transforms into a fighter jet of undetermined (probably made-up) model. He has two side-mounted spring-loaded rocket launchers that become hand-weapons in robot mode. He can combine with his unnamed partner's vehicle mode to form a large bomber jet.<br /> <br /> : The stickers on his tailfins and on his partner's arms call him &quot;Starscrem&quot;. This is a leftover from the Starscream release and is easily ignorable as bad [[romanization|transliteration]].<br /> <br /> : This mold is also used by [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)]] [[Smokejumper]] and ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]'' [[Smokesniper]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Stascream/starscream.htm More information on Stealth Saber (Starscream) at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Stealth Saber comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Combiners]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Armored_Corps&diff=1019325 2015-10-28T20:15:21Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Armored Corps is an [[Autobot]] turned [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Bot]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[File:SonokongArmoredCopsBox.jpg|thumb|250px|]]<br /> '''Armored Corps''' (아머드캅스 ''Ameodeu Kapseu'') is a former [[Autobot]] &lt;strike&gt;Duke of Destruction&lt;/strike&gt; tank.<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Armored Corps was the warden at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, Armored Corps fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]], bringing along his second-in-command, [[Stealth Saber]]; Stealth Saber's [[Amica Endura]], [[Victory Bomber]]; and the four members of the [[Scoutforce]]. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the eight Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. Whatever the conclusion of that war, Armored Corps ended up in [[Axiom Nexus]], where he drunkenly babbled his backstory to [[Spacewarp]]. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> * '''Armored Corps''' (2003)<br /> ** ''ID number'': '''D-12'''<br /> <br /> : Armored Corps is a Korean reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Megastorm]], a [[redeco]] of the first ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Megatron]] toy. Armored Corps transforms into a large combat tank. In both modes, his main cannon stocks up to six missiles, and gravity slides the next missile into place when one is fired. Armored Corps lacks the electronics present in the ''Generation 2'' toy, however.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Megastorm/megastorm.htm More information on Armored Corps (Megastorm) at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Armored Corps comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he still retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> *The Korean pronunciation given does not match the actual &quot;core&quot; pronunciation of &quot;corps&quot;, but the Sonokong releases are fraught with such errors with misleadingly spelled words, such as &quot;[[Mach Kick|Match Kick]]&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Scoutslasher&diff=1019080 2015-10-28T01:29:08Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Scoutslasher is an [[Autobot]] and [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Robots]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Autocrusher-card.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br /> <br /> '''Scoutslasher''' (스카우트슬래셔 ''Seukauteuseullaesyeo'') is a Land Guard and a member of the [[Scoutforce]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> The Scoutforce were guards at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited were the Scoutforce. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[Image:BWII-toy Autocrasher.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]<br /> * '''Scoutforce''' (2003)<br /> **''ID number'': '''D-18'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 4 missiles<br /> <br /> : Scoutslasher is a Korean reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Autocrasher|Autocrusher]], a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Roadblock (G2)|Roadblock]]. Scoutslasher turns into a payloader. His robot mode has a spring-activated spinning saw blade on his left arm, and a spring-loaded missile launcher in the right. He has an auto-transforming gimmick activated by rolling his rear wheels; roll forward to go to robot mode, and back to payloader. A switch on his back end separates the gears of the gimmick, allowing him to roll freely in either mode.<br /> <br /> :Scoutslasher was only available in a &quot;Scoutforce&quot; multipack with [[Scoutstinger]], [[Scoutjet]], and [[Scoutlauncher]].<br /> <br /> : This mold was also intended to be used for &quot;[[Hound (G1)|Sgt. Hound]]&quot; in ''Generation 2'', but that release was canceled.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Autocrusher/autocrusher.htm More information on Scoutslasher (Autocrusher) at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Scoutslasher comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Toy-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Scoutlauncher&diff=1019079 2015-10-28T01:28:28Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Scoutlauncher is an [[Autobot]] and [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Robots]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Autolauncher-card.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br /> <br /> '''Scoutlauncher''' (스카우트레인쳐 ''Seukauteureinchyeo'') is an Assault Guard and a member of the [[Scoutforce]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> The Scoutforce were guards at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited were the Scoutforce. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[Image:BWII-toy Autolauncher.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]<br /> * '''Scoutforce''' (2003)<br /> **''ID number'': '''D-20'''<br /> **''Accessories'': Launcher rifle, 2 missiles, 4 discs<br /> <br /> : Scoutlauncher is a Korean reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Autolauncher]]. He transforms into an armored personnel carrier. He has a disc-launcher in his front end/robot chest that is activated by the front wheels, with a switch to allow him to roll without firing. He also has a small hand-held spring-loaded missile launcher that stores in his trunk. Like [[Scoutjet]], he has a three-setting switch that changes how the toy reacts to being rolled on a smooth surface. In the center setting, it rolls free in whichever mode it’s in. The other two activate the toy’s auto-transforming gimmick; with the switch to the left, the toy transforms from robot to APC when rolled forward (and back when rolled in reverse), while the right position transforms him from APC to robot when rolled forward (and back when in reverse).<br /> <br /> :Scoutlauncher was only available in a &quot;Scoutforce&quot; multipack with [[Scoutslasher]], [[Scoutjet]], and [[Scoutstinger]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Autolauncher/autolauncher.htm More information on Scoutlauncher (Autolauncher) at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Scoutlauncher comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Toy-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Scoutstinger&diff=1019078 2015-10-28T01:27:50Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Scoutstinger is an [[Autobot]] and [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Robots]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Autostinger-card.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br /> <br /> '''Scoutstinger''' (스카우트스팅거 ''Seukauteuseutinggeo'') is the Captain of the [[Scoutforce]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> The Scoutforce were guards at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited were the Scoutforce. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[Image:BWII-toy Autostinger.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]<br /> * '''Scoutforce''' (2003)<br /> **''ID number'': '''D-17'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 4 missiles<br /> <br /> : Scoutstinger is a Korean reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Autostinger]], a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Dirtbag]]. Scoutstinger transforms into a dump truck. He has a twin spring-loaded missile launcher in his right arm, and a clamping &quot;stun gun&quot; claw on the left. He has an auto-transforming gimmick activated by rolling his rear wheels; roll forward to go to robot mode, and back to dump truck. A switch on his back end separates the gears of the gimmick, allowing him to roll freely in either mode.<br /> <br /> :Scoutstinger was only available in a &quot;Scoutforce&quot; multipack with [[Scoutslasher]], [[Scoutjet]], and [[Scoutlauncher]].<br /> <br /> : This mold was also intended to be used for &quot;[[Optimus Prime (G1)|General Optimus Prime]]&quot; in ''Generation 2'', but that release was canceled.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Autostinger/autostinger.htm More information on Scoutstinger (Autostinger) at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Scoutstinger comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Toy-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Scoutjet&diff=1019077 2015-10-28T01:26:56Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Scoutjet is an [[Autobot]] and [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Robots]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[Image:Autojetter-card.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br /> <br /> '''Scoutjet''' (스카우트제트 ''Seukauteujeteu'') is an Aerial Guard and a member of the [[Scoutforce]].<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> The Scoutforce were guards at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, the warden, [[Armored Corps]], fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]]. Among the prison staff he recruited were the Scoutforce. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> [[Image:BWII-toy Autojetter.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]<br /> * '''Scoutforce''' (2003)<br /> **''ID number'': '''D-19'''<br /> **''Accessories'': 6 missiles<br /> <br /> : Scoutjet is a reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Autojetter]]. Scoutjet transforms into an [[Wikipedia:F/A-18|F/A-18 fighter jet]] with a trio of pressure-launch missiles in each wing (activated by a sliding lever), which become his arms in robot mode. Like [[Scoutlauncher]], he has a three-setting switch that changes how the toy reacts to being rolled on a smooth surface. In the center setting, it rolls free in whichever mode it is in. The other two activate the toy's auto-transforming gimmick; with the switch to the left, the toy transforms from robot to jet when rolled forward (and back when rolled in reverse), while the right position transforms him from jet to robot when rolled forward (and back when in reverse).<br /> <br /> :Scoutjet was only available in a &quot;Scoutforce&quot; multipack with [[Scoutslasher]], [[Scoutstinger]], and [[Scoutlauncher]].<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Autojetter/autojetter.htm More information on Scoutjet (Autojetter) at TFU.info]''<br /> {{--}}<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Scoutjet comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Toy-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

Crossblades https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Armored_Corps&diff=1019076 2015-10-28T01:25:22Z

<p>Crossblades: </p> <hr /> <div>{{factions|autobot|predaconrid}}<br /> :''Armored Corps is an [[Autobot]] and [[Predacon (RID)|Predacon]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Robots]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br /> <br /> [[File:SonokongArmoredCopsBox.jpg|thumb|250px|]]<br /> <br /> '''Armored Corps''' (아머드캅스 ''Ameodeu Kapseu'') is a former [[Autobot]] &lt;strike&gt;Duke of Destruction&lt;/strike&gt; tank.<br /> <br /> ==Fiction==<br /> ===Ask Vector Prime===<br /> Armored Corps was the warden at [[Garrus-7]], where [[Megatron (RID)|Devil Gigatron]] was held after his defeat by the Autobots. Dissatisfied with the bureaucracy of the prison and his dead-end job, Armored Corps fell for Gigatron's charisma, turning over to the [[Predacon (RID)|Predacons]], bringing along his second-in-command, [[Stealth Saber]]; Stealth Saber's [[Amica Endura]], [[Victory Bomber]]; and the four members of the [[Scoutforce]]. When Devil Gigatron was upgraded by [[Devil Z]] to Gigatron Z, he broke free, and the eight Predacons went on a rampage, eventually facing against [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy]] and his troops. However the conclusion of that war, Armored Corps ended up at [[Axiom Nexus]], where he drunkenly babbled his backstory to [[Spacewarp]]. {{Storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}<br /> <br /> ==Toys==<br /> ===Car Bot===<br /> * '''Armored Corps''' (2003)<br /> ** ''ID number'': '''D-12'''<br /> <br /> : Armored Corps is a Korean reissue of ''Beast Wars'' [[Megastorm]], a [[redeco]] of the first ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Megatron]] toy. Armored Corps transforms into a large combat tank. In both modes, his main cannon stocks up to six missiles, and gravity slides the next missile into place when one is fired. Armored Corps lacks the electronics present in the ''Generation 2'' toy, however.<br /> <br /> ::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Destron/Megastorm/megastorm.htm More information on Armored Corps (Megastorm) at TFU.info]''<br /> <br /> ==Notes==<br /> *While Armored Corps comes in an Autobot-labeled box, he still retains all of his [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] insignia.<br /> *The Korean pronunciation given does not match the actual &quot;core&quot; pronunciation of &quot;corps&quot;, but the Sonokong releases are fraught with such errors with misleadingly spelled words, such as &quot;[[Mach Kick|Match Kick]]&quot;.<br /> <br /> [[Category:Car Robots Autobots]]<br /> [[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]<br /> [[Category:Korean-original characters]]<br /> [[Category:Toy-only characters]]<br /> [[Category:Turncoats]]</div>

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