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Carousel Chaos

2025-11-18T13:34:38Z

Decepticon Stryker: /* Real world references */ Jaws reference

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|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Cyberworld (cartoon)|Transformers: Cyberworld]]'' episode 13
|prev=Oh Scrap!
|next=Shoot 'N' Loot
|title=Carousel Chaos
|season=1
|season ep=13
|image=Optimus tries to help Grimlock up.jpg
|caption=
|airdate=[[October 25]], 2025
|writers=[[Ali Lightfoot]]
|animation studio=[[Omens Studio LTD]]
|continuity=Cyberworld
|video=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxocC3-essA
|videosite=YouTube
}}

'''It's every bot out for themself as Autobots race against Decepticons to press the button that will allow them to win!'''

==Synopsis==
A green light shines in the desert, indicating the beginning of a challenge. [[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)|Optimus Prime]], [[Elita-1 (Cyberworld)|Elita-1]], and [[Bumblebee (Cyberworld)|Bumblebee]] tiredly stumble upon this challenge and enter it, hoping it will be easy. Much to their displeasure, they soon find out that the game appears to be glitched, and all three fall through the sand and into the game's arena. The arena is a dark space filled with floating platforms that surround a larger platform with a button at its center. The fall seems to trigger another flashback from Optimus, one in which the purple power-up from earlier features prominently. After [[Grimlock (Cyberworld)|Grimlock]] and [[Mirage (Cyberworld)|Mirage]] also fall in, Grimlock sarcastically remarks that Prime isn't looking all that good, and Mirage continues, stating that this whole program feels off. [[Starscream (Cyberworld)|Starscream]], [[Sky-Byte (Cyberworld)|Sky-Byte]], and [[Megatron (Cyberworld)|Megatron]] land next, with Elita none too happy about the appearance of Sky-Byte. Megatron takes a brief moment to comment about the convenience of all the bots he wants offline being in one room, and verbally spars with Starscream before the fight begins.

With all the contestants assembled, the game can finally start, and the [[Narrator]] tells everyone that they must press the button in the center of the battlefield to win. Bumblebee goes first, recklessly stepping onto a red platform, which falls to the abyss beneath his feet, forcing him to quickly move to a blue platform. Megatron begins shortly after Bee, jumping through the floating patches of ground like it's second nature, only coming to a stop when the platform in front of him turns red. Starscream takes this opportunity to try and eliminate Megatron, but is quickly kicked into Optimus, triggering Prime's second round of flashbacks for the day. Megatron proceeds to press the button that is now within his reach, but due to being in its blue "treat" phase, it gives all his foes a power boost instead of eliminating them like he had hoped. Emboldened by his increased strength, Mirage tries to take on Megatron, only to be quickly thrown into the abyss and removed from the competition.

Starscream attempts to menace Optimus, but is convinced by Prime to assist in fighting Megatron instead. Optimus leads the charge, making Megatron think that he's clashing with Optimus, only for Starscream to launch a surprise attack. After a brief exchange of blows between all three of them, the Decepticon leader comes out on top, taking the time to gloat at Optimus. Starscream, however, manages to surprise Megatron once more by grabbing him, triumphantly announcing to Megs that his nemesis has won. Megatron knocks Starscream off of him with ease, explaining that Starscream is not his nemesis; Optimus Prime is. The truth enrages Starscream, causing him to lunge at Megatron, hurling them both into the pit below.

Elita-1 reaches the center platform soon after, with Sky-Byte not far behind her. Ignoring Optimus's protests, Elita presses the button while it's in its red "trick" phase, causing all the red platforms to start falling, including the ones Bumblebee and Grimlock are standing on. Distraught, Optimus runs after his fellow Autobots while Elita shoots at Sky-Byte's grappling hook, preventing him from latching on to a platform and causing him to be eliminated. Elita then goes to follow Optimus, but he tells her to guard the center platform. With Elita agreeing to keep watch and Bumblebee assuring him of his well-being, Optimus moves to help Grimlock, who is unable to get off the edge of the platform he's on. Unfortunately for both of them, Grimlock's platform gives way soon after Optimus arrives. Optimus quickly grabs another platform, but can barely hang on to it. Grimlock tells Optimus to let him go and Optimus does, joining the others in the center as they watch Megatron and Starscream fight.

Bumblebee presses the button while it's red to try to get the two Decepticons eliminated. As the room is filled with vision-hindering smoke, Optimus has a third flashback, causing him to press the button while it's blue. The button press sets off the challenge's win condition, and with Starscream being defeated previously, Optimus, Bumblebee, Elita, and Megatron are declared winners. Megatron tells Optimus that his hesitation is a weakness before they are separated.

Back in the jungle, Megatron spots a [[Galvatron (Cyberworld)|large flying creature]]. Meanwhile, Optimus's memories continue to surge forth, and Elita asks him if he's alright.

==Featured Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Bumblebee (Cyberworld)|Bumblebee]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (Cyberworld)|Optimus Prime]] (2)
*[[Elita-1 (Cyberworld)|Elita-1]] (3)
*[[Grimlock (Cyberworld)|Grimlock]] (4)

|c2=
*[[Starscream (Cyberworld)|Starscream]] (6)
*[[Sky-Byte (Cyberworld)|Sky-Byte]] (7)
*[[Megatron (Cyberworld)|Megatron]] (8)
*[[Galvatron (Cyberworld)|Galvatron]] (9)
|c4=
*[[Mirage (Cyberworld)|Mirage]] (5)
}}

==Quotes==
"You have been bested, Megatron. Emperor Starscream, your greatest nemesis, has won!"<br>
''[Megatron laughs]''<br>
"Prime is my nemesis, Starscream."<br>
''[Knocks him to the ground]''<br>
"You are a mere nuisance."
:—'''Megatron''' clears up '''Starscream's''' misconception.

"Win requires sacrifice. Let me go."
:—'''Grimlock''' proves he is not a hypocrite.

"Hesitation is weakness, Prime, and weakness cannot be afforded."
:—'''Megatron''' helpfully lays down his philosophy.

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
* Optimus, Bumblebee and Elita are all exhausted after Galvatron drained them of their EXP in the [[Oh Scrap!|last episode]].
* Elita-1 continues to hold her grudge against Sky-Byte for [[River Race Ruckus|"eliminating" her old teammates]].
* Megatron makes reference to the city Starscream has [[Smoke & Mirrors|taken over]].

===Character levels===
* Megatron is at level seven.
* Optimus Prime starts at the bottom of level one but makes it halfway to level two thanks to Megatron's poorly timed button press.
* Starscream is at low level six.

===Transformers references===
* Starscream's two-headed spear homages ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Starscream (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 2|Deluxe Class Starscream]]'s [[MechTech]] weapon.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=bit of an homage to this guy [''image of DOTM Deluxe Starscream'']
|link=https://twitter.com/HedlesChkn/status/1982350739822526716#m|name=Ali Lightfoot|site=Twitter|year=2025|month=10|day=26}}</ref>

===Real world references===
* The NPC Narrator uses the [[Halloween]] terms "Trick" and "Treat" for the negative and positive effects of the button respectively. This episode was aired the Saturday before the holiday.

* Right before shooting Sky-Byte’s grappling hook, Elita-1 tells him to “Smile you spawn of a-”, a parody of Chief Brody’s famous phrase from the ending of ''Jaws''.

===Trivia===
* Like [[Oh Scrap!]] before it, this episode was initially uploaded in a bundle alongside four previous episodes. This installment specifically was uploaded with "[[What Goes Up]]", "[[Prime Target (Cyberworld)|Prime Target]]", and "[[Screamer City Arena]]".
* In addition to his previously revealed [[Storm the Desert|mouth]], Grimlock is shown to have two blue eyes behind his retractable visor.

===Foreign localization===
'''French'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Appuie sur le bouton, Autobot !'''" ("Press the button, Autobot!")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[October 25]], 2025

==References==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Cyberworld episodes]]

Drag Strip (Animated)

2025-07-29T13:05:13Z

Decepticon Stryker: Undo revision 1854630 by Ehlektronix (talk) Very clearly not a New York accent

{{disambig3|Drag Strip}}
{{faction|decepticon|decepticong2|teamstunticon}}
:''Drag Strip is a [[Decepticon]] [[Team Stunticon|Stunticon]] from the [[Animated continuity family]] (via [[Transformers Timelines (franchise)|Timelines]]).''
[[Image:DragStripAnimated.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1|I am gonna ask you questions. And every time you don't give me answers, I'm gonna cut something off. And I promise you, they will be things you will miss.]]

'''Drag Strip''' has plenty to be angry about. Not only did [[Scalpel (Animated)|Scalpel]] protoform her into a weak Autobot body, but she has to take orders from those privileged idiots [[Wildrider (Animated)|Wildrider]] and [[The Motor Master]], and why? Because [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is ruled by Autobots, not rightfully by Decepticons. Never mind that she plays the stupid damsel-in-distress role in [[Team Stunticon]]s' fake stunt show. That's just adding insult to injury.

So don't be surprised if she takes out that anger on everyone with her laser swords.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon continuity===
{{voiceactor|[[Morgan Lofting]] (English)}}
[[Image:StuntiConJob-nowheretorun.jpg|left|thumb|[[X-Men|No place to hide! No place to run! The Mutant Age has now begun!]]]]
Drag Strip was sent, along with the other Stunticons and [[Toxitron (Animated)|Toxitron]], on a mission to break [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] and other Decepticons out of [[Trypticon Prison]]. In the guise of entertainers, they planned to rig the former [[Decepticon Gladiatorial Arena]] in [[Kaon (polity)|Kaon]] with explosives, blasting the prison walls open and killing the audience in the process.

All was going well until the Stunticons were abruptly assaulted in mid-rehearsal by [[Cheetor (Animated)|Cheetor]], who opened fire on the disguised Decepticons. Once the Autobot cop settled down, the rehearsal continued. Drag Strip reluctantly played the role of a damsel in distress, cornered by three Decepticons, unsuccessfully rescued by Toxitron, but then truly rescued by the appearance of a great big holographic [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Magnus]] head.

On the night of the plan's execution, Sideswipe and Cheetor returned in the middle of the show, having worked out the Stunticons' plan. The Stunticons fought back with their stolen modifications, with [[Dead End (Animated)|Dead End]] and Drag Strip cornering Cheetor. The two cop-bots were cornered, but Toxitron leapt into the fray, knocking out the structural supports for a giant ramp and sending it crashing down on the Stunticons. Toxitron turned out to actually be a disguised [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]], who revealed their plan to everyone watching. Drag Strip was incarcerated in Trypticon Prison, alongside the very Decepticons she and her teammates had sought to free. {{storylink|The Stunti-Con Job}}

At some point, Drag Strip '''[REDACTED BY THE OFFICE OF [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|SENTINEL MAGNUS]]]''' [[forestonite]], leaving her with a garish color scheme. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The Complete AllSpark Almanac|The Complete AllSpark Almanac}}

====''Legends'' comic====
[[File:Transformers Legends Animated cameos.jpg|thumb]]
Drag Strip was still locked in her cell while a [[Slipstream (Animated)|group]] [[Swindle (Animated)|of]] [[Starscream (Animated)|treacherous]] Decepticons infiltrated the prison.{{storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter "Epiloge"|Epiloge}}

===''Kre-O'' comic===
A member of [[Bludgeon (G1)#Kre-O_online_manga|Bludgeon]]'s forces searching for the [[Red Bucket]], Drag Strip panicked and fell over when they were attacked by [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Mega-Jazz]]. {{storylink|Treasure Competition! Defeat with Block Power!}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===''Timelines''===
[[File:Ani-toy Dragstrip.jpg|right|300px|thumb|For the love of everything, watch the thumbs.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''The Stunti-Con-Job''' (Box set, 2011)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': 2 swords, left & right wings

: A [[redeco]] of Deluxe Class [[Transformers Animated (toyline)|''Animated'']] [[Arcee (Animated)#Toys|Arcee]], Drag Strip transforms from a yellow and black robot to a Cybertronic "rocket car." She comes with two wings, which can be attached at the rear of her vehicle mode (or her robot mode back), and two swords, which can be held in her hands or stored securely in shafts in the rear of her vehicle mode (or atop her shoulder kibble). Some have reported, with the Arcee figure, the swords fit loosely, though they are designed to click into place—albeit with a certain amount of fiddling in some cases.

: She was only available as part of the [[BotCon 2011]] box set, which also includes [[The Motor Master#Toys|The Motor Master]], [[Wildrider (Animated)#Toys|Wildrider]], [[Breakdown (Animated)#Toys|Breakdown]], and [[Dead End (Animated)#Toys|Dead End]].

: This mold was also the basis for the Japanese-card-reader-game-only [[Chromia (Animated)|Chromia]], and was [[retool]]ed into ''Animated'' [[Minerva (Animated)#Toys|Minerva]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Decepticon/BCDragStrip/dragstrip.htm More information on Drag Strip at TFU.info]''
{{--}}

==Notes==
[[File:G2DragStripAnimated-CAA.jpg|thumb|upright=0.65]]
* Drag Strip was the third character to be revealed for the BotCon 2011 set, on [[February 10]], [[2011]]. Her selection for unveiling as the third Stunticon was determined by a fan vote on multiple Transformers fansites, in which respondents had a choice between Drag Strip or Wildrider. Since everyone was already pretty sure Wildrider would be a [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] repaint, but were nowhere near as certain what to expect from Drag Strip, desire to find out led Drag Strip to win out on nearly every site that ran a poll, with the estimated total votes favoring Drag Strip nearly 2 to 1<ref>http://tf-timelines.deviantart.com/blog/37573271/</ref>.
* Shortly before unveiling Drag Strip, BotCon's Twitter feed published a link to YouTube for the trailer of ''{{w|Kill Bill}}'', which is a movie featuring a kick-ass sword-wielding woman wearing a yellow jumpsuit, and a yellow truck with purple/red detailing known as "The Pussy Wagon".<ref>[https://archive.is/A3tg5 BotCon Twitter link to ''Kill Bill'' trailer]</ref>
* While Arcee's [[character model]] had already been updated for the third season of [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|the cartoon]] to look more like her toy, Drag Strip's model goes even further, adding the toy's clip-on wings and the vehicle kibble on her forearms.
* Morgan Lofting's Drag Strip voice sounds like an evil British Commonwealth lady. Think [[Zarana]].

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Animated Decepticons]]
[[Category:BotCon exclusives]]
[[Category:Convention-original characters]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Kre-O Decepticons]]
[[Category:Kreons]]
[[Category:Stunticons]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]

Solus Prime

2025-05-13T15:08:27Z

Decepticon Stryker: /* Age of the Primes */ added note about eye color

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{{featured}}
[[File:Solusprime covenant profile.jpg|thumb|right|263px|Rosie the riveted.]]

Among the [[Thirteen]], '''Solus Prime''' is the Maker and creator. Among her friends she is much loved both for her abilities to forge nearly any device they need and for her intelligence and positive supportive personality. If she has any flaw, it is her fierce and angry temper that quickly flares up at any sign of injustice. She finds joy in creation, which is why she's particularly close friends with [[Nexus Prime]], [[Micronus Prime]], and [[Onyx Prime]] who revel in similar pursuits. Her closest relationship, however, is to [[The Fallen|Megatronus]]. The two are bound by a close devoted romantic love unique among the Thirteen, and spend much of their time online and off rejoicing in each other's presence. (The fact that both have quick fiery tempers surely won't cause issues down the road.)

All [[female Transformer]]s are patterned from her template and thus are gifted with a similar processing architecture, which is the main differentiation between them and their male counterparts.

Many of the arsenal of magnificent weaponry and icons wielded by the other original Transformers are her impressive handiwork, created by an icon of her own, the [[Forge of Solus Prime]], aided by her unique cognitive systems specializing in wide-ranging and powerful parallel processing, and manifesting in the holographic lattice known as the [[Creation Lathe]]. Her creations include:

* The [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]]
* The [[Requiem Blaster (Megatronus)|Requiem Blaster]]
* The [[Chimera Stone]]
* The [[Apex Armor (Prime)|Apex Armor]]
* The [[Infinite Combinatoric]]
* The [[Chaos Edge]]
* The [[Cyber Caliber]]
* The [[Quill]]
* The [[Zeonomicon]]
* The [[Terminus Blade]]
* The [[Enigma of Combination]]

==Fiction==
===Aligned continuity family===
====''The Covenant of Primus''====
Solus Prime was the fourth Prime created by [[Primus]] to defeat [[Unicron/Aligned|Unicron]]. The builder and creator of the Thirteen, Solus opted to remain a free agent as the newborn Primes strategized for their upcoming battle against the chaos-bringer. As part of their training, Solus created a holo-suite, which contained a virtual copy of Unicron for the Primes to train against. The Primes quickly learned that their enemy was more than capable of trouncing them in direct combat.

Solus Prime befriended the conflicted Megatronus, building for him the first set of [[Dark Energon]] [[Dark Energon skin|skin]]s. At Megatronus's urging, she constructed the Requiem Blaster, a weapon that she considered virtually unstoppable. Doubtful at what she had created, the Requiem Blaster led to a heated debate amongst the Thirteen, with [[Liege Maximo]] pointing out that the moody Megatronus could easily turn on his brothers and become unstoppable. Solus Prime defended Megatronus, arguing that Megatronus- who had successfully resisted the temptation of his inner demons- was perhaps best suited to carrying the destructive weapon. Megatronus was proud of her speech, and Solus Prime continued to churn out new weapons and artifacts for her brothers, working closely with them in order to mimic some of their innate powers. Continuing their training, Solus worked with [[Quintus Prime|Quintus]], [[Micronus Prime]], and [[Alpha Trion (WFC)|Alpha Trion]] to build a [[Vector Sigma|computer]] capable of predicting all of Unicron's potential moves.

Eventually, the time came to launch an assault on Unicron himself. Wielding her Forge and a sword, Solus led the charge through [[Vector Prime]]'s [[space bridge]] and onto Unicron himself. After [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] shut down Unicron from the inside, the weary but triumphant Primes headed back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Unbeknownst to them all, Unicron's presence had left them all a little more susceptible to their inner darkness.

[[File:COP-Megatronusshootssolus.jpg|thumb|250px|right|Yeah, we're not fond of this scene either.]]

In the era that followed, Solus continued to work at her Forge, building useful items for the burgeoning settlement of the Primes. She and Megatronus remained close to each other. Tensions between the Primes began to grow on the day that Solus refused to make a suit of armor for Liege Maximo, who claimed that he was building some robotic creatures for company. As a gift, Liege Maximo gave her one of the creatures, whom she adopted as a pet. After some wheedling from Maximo, Solus decided to forge the armor in question.

[[Prima]] and some of the other Primes got word of the "farm", and called a vote to decide its future. Solus voted against the continuation of the project, but not without a defiant remark aimed at Prima, who had cast aspersions on Megatronus's character.

Megatronus confronted Solus Prime over Maximo's suit of armor, which had been completed long ago but had never been delivered to its intended recipient. Their disagreement eventually grew into a full-fledged fight after Megatronus killed her pet, which had secretly been recording Solus Prime's actions. In the chaos, Megatronus fired the Requiem Blaster without thinking, fatally wounding Solus Prime. Before Solus passed away, however, she professed her love for him. Solus's body returned to the core of Cybertron and [[Primus]], and the passage it left behind became the [[Well of All Sparks]].

Following the death of Liege Maximo, the surviving Primes built a tomb in her memory, far away from Cybertron. There, they held a funeral for their fallen comrade. A repentant Megatronus attended the celebration, where he mused that Solus Prime had seen something good in him and that he would find a way to live up to that.

Following the beginning of Cybertronian civilization, one-thirteenth of Cybertron's population considered themselves descendants of Solus Prime, and possessed a very similar neural structure to their progenitor. {{storylink|Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus}}

====Aligned novels====
Near the dawn of time, while the Thirteen were struggling with the threat of [[Unicron/Aligned|Unicron]], [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] commissioned Solus Prime to create a weapon of incredible destruction to use against the Chaos Bringer. Solus Prime had strong reservations, but after a long period of time managed to create the Requiem Blaster. She gathered the interested members of the Thirteen to witness a test of its powers, and leveled a mountain. She pointed out that power corrupts and worried that the existence of such a weapon could possibly lead to their own downfall. Ultimately, the Thirteen voted seven to six to keep the Requiem Blaster and not destroy it.

It was Solus Prime's sudden murder at the hands of the enraged Megatronus that caused the first major schism in the Thirteen. After Megatronus became The Fallen and was defeated by the remnants of the Thirteen, a tomb was fashioned for Solus Prime out of a meteor and set adrift in the stars, reachable only by a series of [[space bridge]]s.

Countless years later, [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] came across Solus Prime's tomb while searching for a mystical artifact. A semi-sentient hologram of Solus Prime appeared and warned Optimus and his Autobots to leave. Solus Prime directed them towards a Space Bridge which would take them to the location of the lost Requiem Blaster.
{{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====
[[Image:OneShallRise1-SolusPrime.jpg|left|thumb|I'm a godly being from the dawn of creation... but I'm not [[Override Prime|the first female Prime]]?!]]
According to legend, at the beginning of time, [[Unicron/Aligned|Unicron]] and [[Primus]] battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Till, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}} At some point statues of Solus Prime and the Thirteen were created and placed in the high council chamber. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} In more recent times, her forge was among the artifacts sealed the [[Vaults]] of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], and was later sent to Earth by Alpha Trion, where it was found and used by Optimus Prime and the Autobots. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}}

====2015 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon====
In the distant past, Megatronus destroyed Solus Prime. {{storylink|Battlegrounds, Part 2}}

[[Strongarm (RID)|Strongarm]] occasionally swore by Solus Prime, {{storylink|True Colors}} as did [[Fixit (RID)|Fixit]]. {{storylink|Decepticon Island (Part 1)}} {{storylink|Combine and Conquer}}
{{--}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[The Crucible|''Robots in Disguise'' #34]] (mentioned); [[The Sum and Its Parts|''Windblade'' #1]] (depicted)}}

[[File:Windblade 1 solus prime.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Rosie the Riveter. Wait, we already made that joke. Ah, crap.]]

In the age following the departure of the [[Knights of Cybertron]], Solus Prime was one of the many Primes that arose on prehistoric Cybertron, tribal leaders who gathered like-minded followers. {{storylink|Heavy}} Approximately twelve million years ago, Solus and her tribe joined a coalition of like-minded Primes—[[Nexus Prime|Nexus]], [[Vector Prime|Vector]], [[Alchemist Prime]], and [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]]—and founded the village that would eventually become the [[Crystal City]].

One evening, Vector brought news that [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] and his [[Darklands|Darklander]]s had invaded the neighboring city of [[Protihex|Protohex]] and slain [[Septimus Prime]]. Solus was unmoved, but when [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Onyx Prime]] and [[Liege Maximo]] arrived to confirm Vector's warnings, they agreed to join forces. The next morning, the Primes watched as Onyx's army of beasts battled the Darklanders until a trio of [[Titan (group)|Titans]] emerged from the ground and gave Onyx the opportunity to reach Megatronus and call for a truce. The eight Primes then agreed to an alliance, and were joined shortly afterwards by [[Prima]] and his northern alliance. {{storylink|Origin Myths}}

Over the next two million years, the Primes ruled benevolently; Solus Prime became known for her friendship with Megatronus {{storylink|Heavy}} and her endless creativity, using her [[Creation Lathe]] to build the collection of weapons, artworks, and scientific devices that comprised the "Artifacts of the Primes." {{storylink|Conquerors Part 1: Aphelion|Aphelion}} Solus even commanded the loyalty of a Titan, [[Caminus (Titan)|Caminus]]. {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}} In time, however, some of the Primes grew arrogant, and sought to preserve their hold on power by claiming that they were functionally immortal: it was falsely claimed that only a Prime could kill a Prime. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

Unbeknownst to the other Primes, however, "Onyx Prime" was not who he appeared to be—in reality, "Onyx" was a convenient identity assumed by a time-travelling [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]], who sought to guide history along its preordained course while analyzing the variables that inevitably led his race to fall to civil war. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} Solus eventually forged a powerful sword for Prima that incorporated the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and dubbed it the "[[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]]" {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}} causing "Onyx" to realize that—in order to maintain the timeline and ensure that the Matrix of Leadership would one day find its way to [[Nova Prime|its next bearer]]—he would have to engineer the fall of the Primes as history dictated.
[[File:TheFirstWhoWasNamed-MegatronusKillsSolus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.65|left|Alex {{w|Women in refrigerators|the refrigerator'd.}}]]

Following a disastrous offworld expedition, Prima blamed Megatronus for this failure; though Megatronus tried to convince Solus Prime that he had been in the right, she rejected his explanations, arguing that the Primes needed to use their powers to "light the way," not destroy indiscriminately. This rejection pushed him towards the more receptive [[Liege Maximo]], a betrayal that led to the two hatching a plan to stage a coup against Prima. When this treachery was revealed, Solus was able to defend Prima from the traitors, but at the cost of her own life—she was slain by her former friend Megatronus and impaled on her own Star Sabre. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} The fallout from this act would, in turn, spark the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]], {{storylink|The Crucible}} and prompt some of Liege Maximo's own followers to turn against him; {{storylink|Heavy}} none of the Primes or their followers would ever learn that "Onyx" had deliberately orchestrated this entire sequence of events from the shadows. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

At some point before the [[Golden Age]], Caminus would leave Cybertron and colonize [[Caminus (planet)|a distant moon]] that he named after himself, founding a new Transformer civilization. {{storylink|A 'Bot and Her City}} This Transformer colony would develop a religion known as the [[Way of Flame]]. Based off the teachings and philosophies of Solus Prime, the religion deified the Thirteen as gods and venerated Solus Prime as the greatest among this pantheon, beliving that every Camien's [[spark]] contained a fragment of Solus's essence. {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}} On death, the devout held that all sparks returned to Solus Prime's forge, where it would be reincarnated as a new Cybertronian. {{storylink|The Life of Sideswipe}} The religious organization known as the [[Torchbearer]]s considered themselves servants of Solus Prime and organized themselves into groups of six to commemorate Solus Prime's Creation Lathe. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 1: Aphelion|Aphelion}}

===Fun Publications===
[[File:HephaestusSolusPrimeAVP.jpg|thumb]]
[[Vector Prime]] shared many happy memories with his sister. When the Thirteen spent time in ancient Greece of some [[universal stream]]s, the male holomatter avatar Solus used inspired/co-opted the myth of Hephaestus, blacksmith of the gods. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/20}} During this time, (s)he crafted the Aegis of [[Alpha Trion (disambiguation)|Athena]] and the trident of [[Adaptus|Poseidon]], and was "bonded" to Liege Maximo (who manifested as the female Venus) by [[Prima]] in hopes of quelling the animosity that had flared up between them. It didn't go so well; "Interesting times," Vector Prime recalls. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/08}} Vector also noted that there were [[universal stream]]s where she was known as Solus [[Convoy (rank)|Convoy]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/24}}

As the original Cybertronian master forger, Solus created the [[Zeonomicon]] for [[Logos Prime]] {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/30}} and the [[Terminus Blade]] for her siblings to cross dimensions in their campaign against Unicron, though the latter was soon rendered obsolete by technological advancement and carelessly discarded. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}}

As [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] began acting for evil causes, his siblings among the Thirteen resolved to keep the all-powerful [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] out of his hands. To this end, Solus Prime used her [[Forge of Solus Prime|Forge]] to split the mighty blade into five pieces. [[Nexus Prime]] volunteered to split himself into five pieces to hide the five fragments across the multiverse. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/05/18}} {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}} The [[Origin Matrix]], the most powerful fragment, was hidden on prehistoric [[Earth]] of [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon]] and time-locked by [[Vector Prime]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/05/18}}

Vector Prime stated that Solus went on to be the first of the Thirteen to perish. However, this was at a time after the opening of the [[Uniend|Uniend Cluster]] and soon before the [[Shroud]], so it is uncertain whether Vector was referring to the Uniend or non-Uniend version(s) of Solus. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/06/14}}

After escaping from the clutches of [[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]] in [[Axiom Nexus]], [[Vector Prime]] (deliberately playing up to the public image of himself as a doddering old fool) pretended to momentarily mistake his [[Axiom Nexus News]] colleague [[Andromeda (TransTech)|Andromeda]] for his sister Solus Prime. {{storylink|Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist|Rook - Axiom Nexus News, 2015/07/08}}

When [[Nexus Prime]] united the [[Terminus Blade]] and the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]], the other [[Thirteen]] were drawn to the event—including an expression of Solus's singularity that existed from a time before she had perished. Time and space were rewritten that day, as the walls between the multiverse grew stronger and less permeable. A consequence of strengthening the multiverse was that Solus Prime and the original Thirteen could no longer continue to exist as multiversal singularities, and so they were splintered and scattered throughout the multiverse. And so the one became many, sentient reoccurring themes each appearing in their own way, if at all, in all the worlds of the multiverse. {{storylink|Out of the One, Many}}

===''Power of the Primes'' marketing material===
Solus Prime's [[Spark]] passed into the possession of one of the twelve [[Prime Master]]s; hidden within a suit of decoy armor, they safeguarded the abilities of the Primes until the present day. By uniting with a larger Transformer, the Prime Master could channel the powers of Solus's Spark and grant them unique abilities that varied with each new partner. {{storylink|#Power of the Primes|Octopunch / Solus Prime online bio}}

{{note|For a list of every permutation of Solus Prime's abilities, see [[Prime Master/Combinations|this link]].}}

===''Prime Wars Trilogy'' cartoons===
{{voiceactor|[[Jaime King]] (English)}}
[[File:Machinima-POTP-Solus.jpg|thumb|left|Well, I'm sure this heavy red filter on the scene doesn't bode poorly for me in the slightest!]]
Solus Prime created many tools to help defend against [[Unicron]], including the [[Enigma of Combination]] and the [[Requiem Blaster (Megatronus)|Requiem Blaster]]. After her lover Megatronus used the Blaster to vanquish Unicron, she welcomed him back to her forge. Its purpose now served, Solus believed the weapon should be destroyed to prevent its misuse, though Megatronus believed it was safer in his care. {{storylink|The Swamp}} The two began fighting over the weapon, inadvertently causing it to fire and mortally wound Solus. Dying in Megatronus's arms, her life force was released into the air before forming the Well of Sparks. {{storylink|Without Warning}} {{storylink|Consequences}} Because of her death, the other members of the [[Thirteen]] sealed the Blaster away and Megatronus began brainstorming a plan to reunite with Solus. {{storylink|Athenaeum Sanctorum (episode)|Athenaeum Sanctorum}}

Ultimately, Megatronus obtained the Enigma, Blaster and [[Matrix of Leadership]], combining their powers to siphon life energy from Transformers everywhere into the Well. As his team arrived and subdued Megatronus, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] watched as the energy coalesced and Solus began to reform. Confused by her circumstances, she asked Megatron what was happening to her, which he explained. She proceeded to only stand and observe as Megatronus eliminated each of his foes. {{storylink|Collision Course}} Horrified by what she witnessed, Solus repeatedly begged Megatronus to stop, directing the others to destroy the machine tethering her to the Well. The machine eventually released the relics, causing Solus to begin to fade away. {{storylink|Megatronus Unleashed}} Still begging for help and for Megatronus to stop, Solus took matters into her own hands and used the energy of the sparks to grow in size and grabbed Megatronus. Calling him out on the many atrocities he had committed, including causing her death, she pulled him down into the Well, killing them both and releasing all the accumulated sparks. {{storylink|Saga's End}}

===''Cyberverse'' cartoon===
Solus Prime was one of the [[Thirteen]], {{storylink|Dweller In The Depths (Cyberverse)|Dweller In The Depths}} {{storylink|Silent Strike}} {{storylink|The Other One}} later generations sometimes invoking her name as a form of swearing. {{storylink|Shadowstriker (episode)|Shadowstriker}}

After gaining control of the [[AllSpark|Allspark]], [[Starscream (Cyberverse)|Starscream]] believed he had pulled Solus Prime's spark back to the world of the living and implanted it into one of his "[[scraplet|children]]", though some questioned the legitimacy of his claims. {{storylink|Parley}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
[[File:ADustOfCrystals-AgeOfTheFirstforged.jpg|thumb]]

One of the Thirteen Primes, {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust I|Sea of Rust I}} Solus Prime forged the [[Matrix of Leadership]] during the [[Age of Primes]], an act that was said to be guided by Primus himself. {{storylink|War World: Prime|Prime}}

She survived the end of the Age of Primes, living into the [[Age of the Firstforged]] where her own Ur-Forge brought forth new life on Cybertron. {{storylink|End of Time}} In that age, Solus Prime was once visited by a supplicant named [[Solomus]], who shared his vision for [[Crystal City]]. Solus and [[Alchemist Prime]] helped Solomus bring his dream to fruition. {{storylink|A Dust of Crystals}}

===''Legacy'' marketing material===
[[Malleus Minotaurus]] was originally Solus Prime's blacksmith assistant.<ref>{{citesocial|link=https://www.youtube.com/live/3Pkz6oTI7W4?feature=shared&t=2104|name=Mark Maher|site=YouTube|title=Hasbro Pulse | Transformers 40th Anniversary Fanstream | March 7, 2024|year=2024|day=07|month=03}}</ref>

===''One'' film===
{{voiceactor|[[María José Guerrero]] (Latin-American Spanish)}}
Solus Prime was one of the original thirteen Primes created by Primus. When the Quintessons invaded Cybertron, Solus fought with her fellow Primes against them. She would join the Primes in a secret meeting with the Primes' aide [[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel]], unaware that it was a trap. As the Primes held their own, Sentinel enacted his plan and shot Solus with the deceased Nexus Prime's weapon. The force of the blast sent her flying into a pile of fallen [[Quintesson Soldier]]s, impaling her one of their blades. Solus and her kin laid there for fifty cycles until miners [[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]], [[Megatron (One)|D-16]], [[Elita-1 (One)|Elita]], and [[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]] discovered their bodies with Alpha Trion's message for help.

A vision of Solus Prime and the other Primes later appeared as Alpha Trion declared a damaged Orion Pax to be the next wielder of the Matrix of Leadership, Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Transformers One (film)|One}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Some Cybertronians believed that Solus Prime crafted the [[Enigma of Combination]] using her supernatural [[Forge of Solus Prime|Forge]]. The Torchbearers of Caminus venerated Solus Prime, and organized themselves into six in tribute to her [[Creation Lathe]]. {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}}

==Toys==
===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:POTP-Prime-Master-Solus-Octopunch.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-d1| '''Solus Prime''' (Prime Master, [[2018]])}}</ul>
:* ''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''PP-28'''
:* ''TakaraTomy release date'': '''[[September 29]], 2018'''
:* ''Accessories'': [[Octopunch (G1)#Power of the Primes|Octopunch]] decoy armor, tentacle device
{{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] (Hasbro)}}

: ''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' Solus Prime is a [[Prime Master]] with [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]] decoy armor, visually based on the original [[Pretender]]'s inner robot and shell.

: This toy has identical features to the other Prime Masters in the line. The decoy armor has a weapon piece which can fold out to create a weapon mode, or detach and be held in the armor's 3 mm-compatible hand. The [[Titan Master]]-like robot can store inside the decoy armor or ride [[Size class|Legends Class]] figures in vehicle mode, and is fully compatible with toys from the previous ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' line. The "Power Swap" gimmick means its [[spark]] form can plug onto any decoy armor's weapon form (which has a [[5 mm post]] to be held by larger figures), Deluxe Class figures' chest armor, Voyager Class figures' bucklers, Leader Class figures' [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrix]] (in place of their Matrix core), [[combiner]]s' torsos (in place of their [[Enigma of Combination]]), or the [[Scepter of Sparks]]. With the power of [[You|your]] imagination, this bestows the Prime Master's [[Prime Master/Combinations|unique power]] on the larger figure.

: Solus Prime was retooled with a new [[Prime Master]] sigil as [[Prima#Power of the Primes|Prima Prime]].
{{anchor|PWTSE}}{{anchor|SpecialEdition}}
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===''Titans Return''===
[[File:TF-Generations-Special-Edition-Prime-Master-Solus-Prime.jpg|200px|thumb|Refrigerator not included.]]
<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Repugnus''' (Special Edition, 2018)}}</ul>

: Available only with ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' Deluxe Class [[Repugnus (G1)#PWTSE|Repugnus]] and [[Dastard#Titans Return|Dastard]], this version of Solus Prime is a [[redeco]] of the above Prime Master featuring translucent parts, and lacking the decoy armor. This "Special Edition" set celebrates the ''Titans Return'' portion of the ''[[Prime Wars Trilogy]]''.

: This set was an [[Amazon (website)|Amazon.com]] online [[exclusive]].
{{anchor|Transformers: Age of the Primes}}
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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-Age of the Primes-Solus Prime.jpg|thumb|300px|The legendary hammertruck.]]
<ul class = "iconlist">{{Bp-pr4|'''The Thirteen Solus Prime''' (Deluxe Class, [[2025]])}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy name:'' '''Solus Prime''' (ソラスプライム)
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''AOTP-02'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date:'' [[2025]] [[June 28]]
:*''Accessories:'' [[Forge of Solus Prime#Age of the Primes|Forge of Solus Prime]]
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Yūya Ōnishi]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref>[[December 12]], [[2024]]'s [https://www.instagram.com/p/DDQUfxzPWXQ/ Mark Maher's designer commentary] on Instagram. </ref>

:Released in the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' Deluxe Class toys, Solus Prime is inspired primarily by the character’s appearance in the ''[[Transformers: Power of the Primes (cartoon)|Power of the Primes]]'' series. She transforms into a Cybertronian armored mini-truck.

:Her forge hammer splits into 3 parts and the whole accessory can be stored on one of her ports in vehicle mode. It is branded with her personal emblem.

:Solus' arm flaps and the mushroom pegs for her feet swivels are notoriously prone to popping out with minimal force. Luckily, they are easy to re-attach to her without issue.

:While her box art and 3D renders depict her as having pink eyes like her appearance in the Prime Wars trilogy, the final toy has green eyes.

:Solus Prime was revealed at [[Cybertron Con 2024]], and went up for preorder on [[December 10]].

::*''[https://www.instagram.com/p/DDQUfxzPWXQ/?img_index=10 Designer commentary on Solus Prime from Mark Maher on Instagram'']''
::*''[[Source:Transformers Age of the Primes bios#AOTP02|Machine translation of Solus Prime's TakaraTomy bio]]''

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==Notes==
* Solus, like other members of the Thirteen, was once a [[multiversal singularity]] who existed as one being throughout all of space and time, but that is [[Shroud|no longer the case]].
* Suns are capable of forging any raw element under the right conditions, so it's fitting that Solus Prime can forge anything ''from'' raw elements.
* The explanation for the use of the 'she' pronoun for Solus in the Aligned continuity, as detailed in her section of the ''Covenant'', is that Cybertronians do ''not'' "have gender in the same way that humans and certain other biological species do", but instead use pronouns as a result of a communication protocol designed to help facilitate dialogue between Cybertronians and the members of those biological races, as a means of recognizing and celebrating difference. It indicates, however, that 1/13th of the Cybertronian population has a divergent neurological architecture that supposedly is necessary to interact with the Creation Lathe, thus effectively denoting that their neurology has gender-equivalent differences. This explanation does not preclude the possibility that a Cybertronian could voluntarily self-identify with a gender concept found among organics.

===Foreign names===
* ''Japanese:'' '''Solus Prime''' (ソラスプライム ''Sorasu Puraimu'')
* ''Mandarin:'' '''Sài Tiān Jiāo''' (赛天骄, "Race the Proud of Heaven")

==Gallery==
<gallery>
Potp-Solus-Prime-Concept.JPG|''Power of the Primes'' concept art.
SolusPrime-PowerofthePrimes.jpg|''Power of the Primes'' cartoon.
One-Solus-Prime.jpg|''One'' film.
</gallery>

==References==
{{reflist}}

{{Thirteen}}

[[Category:Age of the Primes characters]]
[[Category:Amazon exclusives]]
[[Category:Caminus]]
[[Category:Cyberverse Transformers]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Transformers]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Transformers]]
[[Category:One Transformers]]
[[Category:Prime Masters]]
[[Category:Prime Transformers]]
[[Category:Thirteen]]
[[Category:Transformers Roleplaying Game Transformers]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Earthrise characters]]

Hydrophant

2025-04-30T04:05:51Z

Decepticon Stryker: Added trivia regarding weapons and body parts

:''Hydrophant is an [[Energy Beast]] from [[Transformers: Wild King|Wild King]].''

[[File:Wild King Hydrophant model.jpg|thumb|upright=2|]]

Timid and kind-hearted, '''Hydrophant''' (ハイドロファント ''Haidorofanto'') doesn't have much belief in himself, but his friends know he has incredible power hidden within. It's up to the elephant to build up courage in himself to draw out that strength.

Possessing [[Element Energy|Aqua Energy]] that gives power over water, Hydrophant is an [[Energy Beast]] that can undergo [[wildocking]] with an [[Energy Master]].

==Fiction==
===''Wild King'' cartoon===
{{comingsoon}}

==Toys==
===''Wild King''===
[[File:Wild King WKB-02 Hydrophant.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"Life is the most spectacular show on Earth."]]

*'''Hydrophant''' (Energy Beast, [[2025]])
:*''ID number'': '''WKB-02'''
:*''Release date'': [[April 26]], 2025
:*''Accessories'': elephant head, axe, "Aqua Energy" breastplate

: Part of the first wave of TakaraTomy's ''[[Transformers: Wild King|Wild King]]'' toyline, Hydrophant transforms into a robotic elephant with posable tusk-cannons and ears, which is awesome. He can also transform into an arm or a leg extension for any [[Energy Master#Toys|Energy Master]] toy. He has a water-themed "Aqua Energy" breastplate, which can be detached and re-attached to one of the four ports on the chest of the Energy Master torso, forming part of a large elemental "X". A chunk of his beast-mode back detaches to form a battle axe. The two tusk-cannons can be removed from his elephant head and held, due to being 5mm posts. The trunk can also be removed from the elephant head.

: He shares several "core" parts with other Energy Beasts: he has the same torso and thighs as the other three in the wave, and shares the biceps and hindlegs/shins with [[Leafback]].
{{comingsoontoy}}

[[Category:Energy Beasts]]

Leafback

2025-04-30T04:00:06Z

Decepticon Stryker: Added some trivia regarding tail piece~~~~

:''Leafback is an [[Energy Beast]] from [[Transformers: Wild King|Wild King]].''

[[File:Wild King Leafback model.jpg|thumb|upright=2|]]

A simple straightshooter, '''Leafback''' (リーフバック ''Rīfubakku'') isn't much for anything bent or curved. Among the dinosaurs of [[Elementros]], Leafback is among the most physically powerful, rivalling only [[Drillnohorn]]. Trusting [[Captain Volca]], Leafback has fallen under the influence of [[Megatron (WK)|Megatron]]. For whatever reason, he believes that the more horns, the more smart a person is.

Possessing [[Element Energy|Grass Energy]] that gives power over nature, Leafback is an [[Energy Beast]] that can undergo [[wildocking]] with an [[Energy Master]].

==Fiction==
===''Wild King'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Takashi Saito]] (Japanese)|}}
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|The Power of Bonds! Wildocking!}} {{storylink|The Hero Who Descends from the Sky!}}}}

==Toys==
===''Wild King''===
[[File:Wild King WKB-04 Leafback.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]

*'''Leafback''' (Energy Beast, 2025)
:*''ID number:'' '''WKB-04'''
:*''Release date:'' [[April 26]], 2025
:*''Accessories'': ''Triceratops'' head, ''Triceratops'' tail, "Grass Energy" breastplate

: Part of the first wave of TakaraTomy's ''[[Transformers: Wild King|Wild King]]'' toyline, Leafback transforms into a robotic ''Triceratops''. He can also transform into an arm or a leg extension for any [[Energy Master#Toys|Energy Master]] toy. He has a leaf-themed "Grass Energy" breastplate, which can be detached and re-attached to one of the four ports on the chest of the Energy Master torso, forming part of a large elemental "X".

: He lacks a conventional melee weapon, though his removable dino-tail could be used as a huge club, if you like. Interestingly, the tip of his tail is removable, and also has a sculpted-in barrel.

: He shares several "core" parts with other Energy Beasts: he has the same torso and thighs as the other three in the wave, and shares the biceps and hindlegs/shins with [[Hydrophant]].
{{comingsoontoy}}

==Notes==
*Leafback's name is improperly romanized in official site urls as "Reefback".<ref>{{citesocial|link=https://tf.takaratomy.co.jp/tf_wild_king/character/chara06-Reefback.php|name=TakaraTomy|title=リーフバック|year=2025|month=03|day=18}}</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Energy Beasts]]

Talk:High Guard

2025-04-02T04:05:35Z

Decepticon Stryker: /* Green jet identity */

== Green jet identity ==

Has there been specific confirmation by a film staff member on Twitter as to whether the green jet is Acid Storm or Wingstun? I can't find any. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:53, 14 November 2024 (EST)
:I was under the impression they were just a generic. Color schemes reminds me of Shattered Glass Whisper, imo.[[User:Decepticon Stryker|Decepticon Stryker]] ([[User talk:Decepticon Stryker|talk]]) 00:05, 2 April 2025 (EDT)

Apelinq (ROTB)

2025-01-28T03:05:49Z

Decepticon Stryker: /* Studio Series */ Was screwing around with my Primal and Apelinq and found this.

{{disambig3|Apelinq}}
{{factions|maximal}}

:''Apelinq is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts]] portion of the [[Movie continuity family]].''

[[File:ROTB-Apelinq.jpg|thumb|300px|"Apes, together....strong."]]

'''Apelinq''' was the Maximal leader before [[Optimus Primal (ROTB)|Optimus Primal]]. A just, reasonable leader, Apelinq was more than aware of the "needs of the many", perfectly willing to lay down his life — and even that of his own ''planet'' — if it meant helping the many. Just because he was willing to lose the battle for the sake of the war, however, didn't mean he wouldn't or couldn't wage the war: he was still a big gorilla who wielded arm blades in battle, having earned a reputation as the legendary defender of his planet known across the cosmos. He had long eyed Primal as his potential successor, and the arrival of [[Unicron]] proved to be the impetus for the younger Maximal to embrace his destiny...and continue his journey without his former leader.

{{bigquote|[[Maximal|We'd]] rather die than let [[Unicron|him]] reach other planets!|Apelinq|''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Rise of the Beasts'' film===
{{Voiceactor|[[David Sobolov]] (English), [[Akio Ōtsuka]] (Japanese)|[[Kőrösi András]] (Hungarian), [[Féodor Atkine]] (European French), [[Dario Oppido]] (Italian), [[Oliver Stritzel]] (German), [[Vanderlan Mendes]] (Brazilian Portuguese), [[Héctor Estrada]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Domènec Farell]] (Spain Spanish), [[Szymon Kuśmider]] (Polish)}}

[[File:ApelinqVsScourge.jpg|thumb|300px|left|One Nation under Grodd!]]
Apelinq was the leader of the Maximals on [[Jungle Planet (colony)|their homeworld]]—until [[Unicron]] showed up. In addition to wanting to consume their planet, Unicron also wanted the [[Transwarp Key]] that the Maximals had been guarding. After a close encounter with two [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Scorponok (ROTB)|Scorponok]] drones, Apelinq entrusted it to [[Optimus Primal (ROTB)|Optimus Primal]] to prevent it from falling into the hands of the [[Terrorcon (ROTB)|Terrorcons]] and named him the new leader of the Maximals. Apelinq instructed Primal to flee with the Transwarp Key and remained behind to stall [[Scourge (ROTB)|Scourge]]. The Terrorcon leader offered Apelinq the chance for Unicron to spare his planet if he surrendered the key, but Apelinq refused to allow Unicron the chance to continue on his rampage. Scourge made quick work of him, stabbing him and blasting a hole through his torso, but Apelinq taunted his killer with his last breaths that Unicron would never get the Transwarp Key and would be trapped in their galaxy forever. His body was presumably consumed when the Maximal homeworld was subsequently devoured by Unicron. As the fleeing Maximals watched their homeworld be destroyed, [[Airazor (ROTB)|Airazor]] affirmed to her comrades that Apelinq's sacrifice would become their oath - that they would protect the key he gave his life for, no matter the cost. {{storylink|Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts}}
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==Toys==
===Studio Series===
[[File:StudioSeries118LeaderApelinq.jpg|thumb|300px|"[https://rampage.fandom.com/wiki/George George], are you ok buddy?"]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-m1|'''Apelinq''' (Leader Class, [[2025]])}}</ul>
:*''Movie'': '''''Rise of the Beasts'''''
:*''Hasbro ID Number'': '''118'''
:*''Accessories'': 2 Arm blades, 2 chain pieces, 2-part Transwarp Key, backdrop
{{toydesigner|[[Evan Brooks]] (TakaraTomy), [[Shuhei Umezu]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref name = "MCM London">[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIKkqyZTVK0 Transformers presentation] at [[MCM London#2024|MCM London 2024]] with [[Evan Brooks]] and [[Russ Humphreys]] at the "Toys are Russ" YouTube channel</ref>

: ''[[Studio Series]]'' Apelinq is a retool of Leader Class [[Optimus Primal (ROTB)#Studio Series|Optimus Primal]] from the same line, with new heads in both modes as well as new shoulders and forearm armor. He retains most of Primal's accessories, but omits Prime's axe, and swaps out Primal's swords for the two curved arm blades Apelinq brandished during his battle with Scourge. The arm blades can attach to the chain accessories to form a weapon similar to a {{w|Kusarigama}}. As per his Hasbro designer [[Evan Brooks]], his [[Mouthplate|faceplate]]'d robot mode head is explicitly intended as a more film accurate sculpt to swap on to Primal.<ref name = "MCM London"/> Apelinq's stock photography depicts him still using Primal's mouthed head sculpt. Interestingly, his Transwarp Key appears to be molded differently than Primal’s, having a smaller peg connecting the two halves.

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==Merchandise==
===Yolopark===
[[File:Yolopark-Rise-Of-The-Beast-Apelinq.jpg|200px|thumb|"It was [[Scourge (ROTB)|beauty]] that killed the beast..."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-m1|'''Apelinq''' ([[2024]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Display base
: Part of [[Yolopark]]'s ''AMK Pro X'' line, this figure of Apelinq depicts him in his robot mode, which was not seen in the ''Rise of the Beasts'' film. It is based on a customized Yolopark ''AMK Series'' [[Optimus_Primal_(ROTB)#Yolopark|Optimus Primal]] made in summer 2023 by Weibo user ''G-GrayStudio'' <ref>[https://weibo.com/5273349615/NdEG4qZVg]</ref>
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==Notes==
* Apelinq was confirmed to be in the film by accident; about a month before the film was released, the Hungarian voice cast was announced, and it included Apelinq. A few days before release, his English voice actor David Sobolov confirmed on Instagram that he was voicing Apelinq in the film.
* Much like his [[Apelinq (BM)|original counterpart]], Apelinq's body is a recolored and modified version of Optimus Primal's. In addition to the aforementioned arm blades, the model features several details meant to resemble an albino gorilla, including a different snout, orange [[Sensor|optics]], and some fur on the top of his head.<ref>{{Citesocial|link=https://www.facebook.com/WetaFXofficial/videos/our-work-on-transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-includes-creature-work-particularly-/3501405913506204/|quote=Our work on Transformers: Rise of the Beasts includes creature work, particularly for the Maximals, including the creation of Apelinq, a Maximal albino gorilla. We choreographed the opening scene on the Maximal planet through extensive previsualisation and motion capture.|name=Weta FX|site=Facebook|year=2023|month=07|day=07}}</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Apelinq''' (エイプリンク ''Eipurinku'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Shèng Yuán''' (圣猿, "Holy Ape")

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Maximal leaders]]
[[Category:Rise of the Beasts Maximals]]
[[Category:Studio Series Maximals]]

Talk:Slipstream (One)

2024-10-05T16:59:45Z

Decepticon Stryker: Brought up Gender issue

==Gender?==
*So I think we can all agree that Slipstream’s design does appear more effeminate than the other High Guard. But, their card in the TF One trading card game uses the Mandarin male pronoun 他. Arcee’s card, meanwhile, uses the female pronoun. So should we consider this incarnation of Slipstream male? Of just use they/them until we get something more concrete? [[User:Decepticon Stryker|Decepticon Stryker]] ([[User talk:Decepticon Stryker|talk]]) 12:59, 5 October 2024 (EDT)

Thundercracker (One)

2024-10-05T16:53:35Z

Decepticon Stryker: Added trivia regarding weapon design.

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{{disambig3|Thundercracker}}
:''Thundercracker is a [[Decepticon]] from [[Transformers One (franchise)|One]].''
[[File:Thundercracker (One).jpeg|thumb|right|200px]]

'''Thundercracker''' is a member of the [[High Guard]].

==Fiction==
===''One'' film===
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{{storylink|Transformers One (film)|One}}

==Notes==
*Thundercracker’s weapons appear to be based on the [[Neutron assault rifle]] included with his [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys|Thrilling 30]] toy.
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2024-09-19T05:06:14Z

Decepticon Stryker: Added my vote for Transformers One Continuity

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== Press release or logo for 30,000 articles? ==
Is it worth putting something together as we get very very close? Maybe something like:
* 3 from Thrilling 30 logo
* 0 from the 40th logo
* 0 from the Vector Sigma "Featured" logo
* 0 from the cosmic-streaking O in the TFTM opener
* 0 from GO!

Just a suggestion.... --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:45, 10 November 2023 (EST)
:If we wanted to go down that route, maybe tie into some of the contemporary material? Say, the "O"s from [[Energon Universe]] or [[Transformers: Legacy#Legacy: Evolution|Evolution]]? (Though the latter isn't exactly straight-on...) --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 14:38, 10 November 2023 (EST)
::Sure! I lean towards the Energon Universe choice. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:48, 10 November 2023 (EST)
:Apologies, I've corrected the count on the main page as it was inaccurate, so we're not as close as it looked like we were. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:20, 10 November 2023 (EST)
::That just means we have more time to decide and, if so, pull things together. :) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 16:51, 10 November 2023 (EST)
:::Feels like we just leapt up 40 new articles in the last 2-3 days. Is it worth putting a graphic together? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 22:47, 18 January 2024 (EST)

=="Multi-pack" vs "gift set" and suchlike==
Incoming semantics, but... as I've been going through the toy entries, been trying to standardize/streamline a lot of stuff, and I think maybe a set of consistent terms/definitions for "a bunch of separate toys packed together" is in order. So lemme throw this out here for discussion/future reference...
*'''Multi-pack''' — A pack of toys where the contents (or at least most/some/any of them) are exclusive to this release, not sold in other packaging. Most multi-toy releases nowadays would fall under this umbrella by default.
*'''Gift set''' — A pack of toys where all of the contents are/were concurrently (or close enough) sold individually as well, without changes, in the same market. Like all the various G1 combiner sets.
The latter brings up the question of if we want to label all the Takara "VS" packs and the various UT-era "VALUE PACK!" sets under that umbrella, which I'm ambivalent-to-marginally-in-favor-of over. Especially as Takara's been putting out new "VS" packs where the toys are new decos not available elsewhere... also we kinda made up the "VS pack" term anyway, as memory serves, so. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:15, 8 January 2024 (EST)
:Hasbro has used the word "[[Giftset]]" to refer to unique variants not available separately. I'm inclined to think we shouldn't directly contradict that. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:21, 8 January 2024 (EST)
::and damn but does that article need updating. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:22, 8 January 2024 (EST)
:::I'm inclined to think that Hasbro uses lots of terms in ways that are not exactly conducive to organizing a wiki. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 21:29, 8 January 2024 (EST)

==More bullet point insignia?==
Okay so... I recall there were some other possible faction symbol bullet points we could maybe use. I ran across a few with this batch of toy pics we might consider adding. I'll list them here, see if people can think of more. I feel like there might be a couple more two-faction matchups out there.
* Rescue Bots
* The various BotBots squads
* My First Transformers

I'm not un-convinced that we should have the bespoke insignia for stuff like the Disney Label, since they do use them on the packaging. So uh... there. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 01:51, 13 January 2024 (EST)
:Also, while looking at the list of all the bullets on the template page... maybe we should see if we can split the list up a smidge? Like, put all the mutli-faction icons in one section, a section just for BotBots since there's gonna be quite a few of them? Alphabetizing them might also be in order. (I have exactly zero idea how those templates are coded, so uh, lemme know if that's doable.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 04:42, 13 January 2024 (EST)
::There's also the [[Star Wars Transformers]]... though I'm not sure if using ''Star Wars'' insignia falls too much out of this wiki's scope, although we do use at least use them on the actual characters' pages (see [[Darth Vader]]). [[User:Turborun|Turborun]] ([[User talk:Turborun|talk]]) 10:34, 13 January 2024 (EST)
:::I don't think we'd use SW insignia because, near as I can tell, the toy packaging doesn't mark the toys that way. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 05:27, 14 January 2024 (EST)

== Idea for reducing the size of toy sections by compacting unchanged toy entries ==

I've come up with an idea that I think would make toy sections on character pages a little better and more intuitive. Instead of having a long list of entries for multiple releases of the exact same toy completely unchanged, we could just compact them all in a single entry, describing how the toy was available both individually and unchanged in a bunch of multipacks. This could be especially helpful with toy sections that are way too long, such as both the Movie Optimus Prime and Bumblebee toy pages that have been subject to a lot of discussion already.

[[User:Fritz/Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|I used the 2007 Legends Class section of the Movie Optimus Prime toy page to make a quick example out of it.]] The entries would be reduced from four to two toys, since 3/4 of them are the same toy anyway, and a lot of white space would be removed. As for the images of the multipacks, I don't think we would be losing much in removing them since the wiki has never prioritized images of packagings for anything really and, as I know is written somewhere in the "rules", the wiki isn't supposed to be used as an image hosting website in the first place.

So, any thoughts? --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 20:18, 20 January 2024 (EST)
: We used to do this and it was actually kind of worse. There's also complications when unchanged toys end up being sold under different franchise headers, and when you add in all the other bullet point data a toy/set might have, you could end up with a lonnnnng list of bullet points before you get to the actual writeup, plus describing the multi-packs' contents... you're not really saving space while also kinda hurting the demi-chronological flow of the information. And deleting the multi-pack package imagery feels very wrong. It's one of those cases where there's no real ideal situation, but there's a least-bad one.
:That said, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to make sure the first entry mentions these "repacks" alongside the redecoes and links to the relevant items. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 21:34, 21 January 2024 (EST)
::Good points, as usual. Now that you mentioned it, I think I do have a vague memory of this being done in the past. I was going to suggest the repacks from different toylines should remain separate, though. My mentality was that maybe we could have a way to highlight the "main" releases (original and redecoes/retools) from the "minor" ones (unchanged repacks) to make it easier to identify in a glance how many actually-different toys were released within a toyline, but I wouldn't want it to cause ''more'' confusion than ''less''. Anyway thanks for taking the time to evaluate the idea. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 05:54, 22 January 2024 (EST)

==Repurposings, continuity transplants, and using Template:Main/Template:See to improve navigability==
I've gone back to the drawing board to come up with a way to signal to readers where closely-related pages exist, as I don't think [[Help:Disambiguation|disambiguation]] pages are enough and have found [[Template:OtherVersions]] to be unideal. [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive70#Proposal re: G1 pages|Previously]], I'd suggested merging a bunch of pages for so-called "[[Continuity family|continuity]] transplants", but other users convinced me this would be a poor solution. One alternative suggestion, from [[User:Broadside]], was to use [[Template:Main]] to put key links to a character's appearances in other continuity families directly in the fiction section—[[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive70#Handling of "former GoBots" and "former Diaclone" characters on the wiki|reactions at the time]] were neutral-positive. You can see mockups for [[User:Broadside/Sandbox:Cy-Kill|Cy-Kill]] and [[User:Broadside/Sandbox:Bug Bite|Bug Bite]]. This strikes me as the best of both worlds, because it keeps the consistent schema (which helps for page length and organisation) but also puts a link to the information in the place where your typical reader is expecting to find it (on the page for the highest-profile first incarnation of the character).

With the same philosophy in mind, I've also designed two new templates. The first, [[Template:Toyappeared]], is intended for use in toy write-ups as a way of linking to fiction write-ups and character pages. It covers [[repurposing]]s, "continuity transplants", notable instances of [[Show-accuracy|toy-accuracy]], in-fiction [[Reformatting|powerups]], [[Redeco#"Virtual" redecos|"virtual" redecos]], you name it. Toy write-ups are increasingly being duplicated across multiple character pages, which creates maintenance overhead, as both instances must be manually kept in sync. My suggestion is to use [[Template:See]] to link to the full information regarding a toy on the original page, with the repurposed instance giving only brief information of what the toy is and ''why'' it was repurposed or whatever. The second of my new templates has a much more specific intended use case: [[Template:Bwucharacter]] provides an easy way of explaining how/why a character was reinterpreted for their ''Uprising'' appearance, as ''Uprising'' accounts for most of the situations I view as being problematic.

I realise I'm proposing like five things at once here, so [[User:The Wadapan/sandbox/repurposing|my sandbox]] has [[User:The Wadapan/sandbox/repurposing#Full example|a full example]] demonstrating how it all works together, along with tons of individual examples of the templates' usage and a more thorough explanation of what I'm trying to address with them. Take a look, and let me know which aspects you like, which parts you don't like, or any ideas you have to add! —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 06:24, 12 February 2024 (EST)
:I can vouch for these templates! [[User:ShootingStar7X|ShootingStar7X]] ([[User talk:ShootingStar7X|talk]]) 15:38, 26 February 2024 (EST)
: I'm seeing a lot of problems with the implementation of some of this, and a lot of future headaches. The ones rolled out put what look like stub headers in a fiction section with just a small normal missable note up top; and in Override's case in specific, multiple stubs with completely redundant information. What this is ''going'' to do is get new people thinking that these are missing information that needs to be filled, then we gotta revert it and tell them no all that goes elsewhere, which is utterly unintuitive and will just lead to arguments and headaches all around.
: As for toys, in the instances of BWU-type stuff where it's a one-toy Mini-Con or whatever, I feel like NOT having the actual toy info for them on the BWU page, as with the Mini-Con Snow Cat toy currently, is not doing the reader any favors. Quite the opposite. Why are we making them jump to a different page for information that has no reason to not be right there? I don't like making readers jump through hoops needlessly, and that's all this feels like. And it's not like the toy sections of most of these are gonna see major changes, so lack of cross-updating is very, very, very unlikely to be an issue.
: I really don't think these require new templates and a bunch of new-editor landmines. At most, there's a decent argument to be made for re-positioning the "you look familiar" template that already exists, maybe below the main character writeup (above feels like a bad layout choice, pushing all kinds of stuff down.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:11, 28 February 2024 (EST)

== Listings and accessories ==

When I was making the description for cannonball based on the Walmart listing, there was mention of a Gatling gun and hammer not shown in the stock images,and left them out.

If I run into this type of situation again, what do I do?[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 10:56, 7 March 2024 (EST)

== A few suggestions ==

Gallery pages should only include images that aren't easily accessed by going to the main page, to avoid cluttering. I guess this is not an issue now since the current gallery pages are fairly short.

There should be more dedication in listing alt-modes of characters. Maybe there should be a header or something. For example, if the Dreamwave version of [[Sunstorm (G1)#Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Sunstorm]] transforms into an F-16 jet, it should be listed in the beginning with a header for the sake of easy access to the said information.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 13:59, 17 March 2024 (EDT)

== Will we get an article on The Masked Singer? ==

Will there be an article on TFWiki about The Masked Singer, specifically their recent "Transformers Night" episode (https://the-masked-singer.fandom.com/wiki/Transformers_Night)? --[[User:John Pannozzi|John Pannozzi]] ([[User talk:John Pannozzi|talk]]) 20:01, 12 April 2024 (EDT)

: Assuming it's a licensed appearance (I can't check the credits myself :C ), I can't think why it wouldn't be [[User:AkibaSilver|AkibaSilver]] ([[User talk:AkibaSilver|talk]]) 21:15, 12 April 2024 (EDT)

:: It was indeed licensed. --[[User:John Pannozzi|John Pannozzi]] ([[User talk:John Pannozzi|talk]]) 22:30, 12 April 2024 (EDT)
:::Yes, as an official Hasbro-sanctioned piece of TF media, the episode does meet our requirements for inclusion. It just needs someone to write it up. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 23:22, 12 April 2024 (EDT)

== Franchise articles ==
So I was looking at the franchise pages to try and get an idea of what the standard is supposed to be for how they are written. Should all of them be updated to be more like the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)]] article? What was making me wonder this was that on the [[Transformers: Energon (franchise)]] article it had a section for "Homages" and one for "New characters" which I don't think any other franchise article has. --[[User:1levichurch|1levichurch]] ([[User talk:1levichurch||talk]]) 22:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

== AI upscaled images ==
With fresh offsite talks about the matter, I put forth we add an official policy against posting AI upscaled images of any kind to the wiki, owing to their subpar performance in "enhancing" the quality of images. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 23:52, 1 May 2024 (EDT)
:Agreed. It's literally faking information and presenting it as official. (Also often noticeably terrible.) Sometimes the best quality available of something sucks, but we simply have to deal. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 23:57, 1 May 2024 (EDT)
::100 percent agreed. It's called "artificial" for a reason. Plenty of details would be lost out through the upscaling, and several times errors on the wiki somehow became official through Hastak using the wiki for references (the whole [[Circular reporting]] thing). If we start allowing AI upscaled images, then we're likely to have things lost to the annals of time. Potato quality is better than lost quality[[User:Singularity|Singularity]] ([[User talk:Singularity|talk]]) 00:11, 2 May 2024 (EDT)
: Sure. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:43, 2 May 2024 (EDT)

== Ending addition of high-end statues ==
This is something I doubt other people have noticed, but I'm putting down a tent-peg on it: After having built the entries for dozens of high-end collectable TF statues in the last 2-3 years, from firms like Diamond Select, Imaginarium, Azure Sea, XM Studios, etc., and then seeing most of them either officially cancelled or never spoken of again with no reported purchases, I am going to stop adding such items here. If someone else feels like cataloguing them, great.

It really may not be possible for us to keep up with toy-like non-transforming merchandise (figurines and statues) the way we used to. There are at least two ''released'' series of G1 core cast micro-figurines with micro-comics and magnifying glasses, which would have been the rage of the fandom in 2005, that nobody ever got around to adding, and it feels like too much of a chore for me to start. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:35, 3 May 2024 (EDT)
: It's an unfortunate but very real thing that once you enter the world of licensed merch, we're ''gonna'' have big gaps. It's... a lot, on top of the "a lot" that is the regular TF toyline and fictional output today. I've said that the work involved in keeping up with all of TF's merch ought to be a full-time paying job, and I genuinely mean it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:39, 3 May 2024 (EDT)

== Transformers Roleplaying Game releases on the front page and sidebar ==

The [[Transformers Roleplaying Game]] is getting pretty frequent releases of both sourcebooks and pre-written adventures, and it occurs to me that it might be a good idea to have it on the "current releases" section of the front page and/or the navigation sidebar. How would people feel about that? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 15:49, 4 May 2024 (EDT)
: I think that makes a lot of sense, as long as we have people keeping up with the new releases to document them. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:51, 4 May 2024 (EDT)

==How we handle weapons' toy/merch sections==
Okay, so like... I'm not really convinced that what we've been doing is the best way to handle the weapon pages' toys/merch sections. Honestly, they end up looking... really shoddy. There's just tiny scraps of info, vast wads of whitespace, few to no links, the images are tons of different sizes. <br>
I'm thinking that instead of all this... maybe this is a place where a gallery is in order, just a chronological procession. Have the captions just say what lines/toys the weapons came with and link to the toys directly on the character page. It's not like there's much to say about any of these, why not let the toy listing on the character page say it? Why make people scroll through screens of mostly-emptiness, which I feel they're increasingly unlikely to do? I may do a sandbox if I'm feeling up to it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:24, 6 May 2024 (EDT)
:[[User:M Sipher/Sandbox:WeaponPageToysSection]] - So... this, basically. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:39, 6 May 2024 (EDT)
:I'd be on board with that. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:34, 6 May 2024 (EDT)
:I like it. It would be far more compact than our current approach for, say, [[Fusion cannon#Toys]], while still getting the point across. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:13, 10 May 2024 (EDT)

==Proposal for Unproduced or Unreleased Template==
I don't think the Apocrypha template is particularly useful. It was created specifically for Alignment, but most of the things in it don't fit that criteria. Something like Unproduced or Unreleased Transformer media would be more self explanatory. [[User:WillR113|WillR113]] ([[User talk:WillR113|talk]]) 07:05, 11 May 2024 (EDT)

== Use of pictures from ebay, fan sites, etc ==

Is it appropriate to use pictures of toys from ebay, fan reviews, video review screenshots and the like? Under fair use and with source credit? Sometimes rarer items we don't have good pictures of on the wiki show up in these places. In particular I found a ebay seller with good images of EZ collection toys and and old Japanese review blog with images of Takara variants of HFTD/Autobot Alliance toys so that got me wondering. —[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 10:10, 12 May 2024 (EDT)
:Images from eBay and other fan sites have been and can continue to be used, giving the fullest source credit feasible. I don't think we've ever needed to rely on video review screenshots and would always prefer to have a "normal" still image instead whenever possible. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:02, 16 May 2024 (EDT)

== ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' “再構成版” エピソード視聴ガイド "Re-Configuration Version" aka "Re-Constructed Version" Episode Viewing Guide ==

We really need to document the "canon" Japanese viewing order for ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' & ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010'' originally included with the ''Pioneer'' Laserdisc booklets & later apparently revised by [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] (市川裕文) for the DVD BOX SET 2 Instruction Booklet as it would help clean-up the chronology on many wiki pages here. From what I've been able to gather this particular viewing order differs from both the US/Japan production orders, the US-Airing order and the Japanese-Airing order. So what exactly is the order of the episodes of these two series according to these documents? Does anyone own them and able to list the specific order in which the episodes appear in those LD/DVD "Instruction Booklets" word-for-word? As it stands, we've only mentioned that a "narrative viewing order" exists but do not have it listed anywhere. For further clarification, it is not the order in which the episodes appear on the Japanese DVDs. [[User:Astrobotix|Astrobotix]] ([[User talk:Astrobotix|talk]]) 01:09, 15 May 2024 (EDT)
:While this information would be valuable and is worth documenting, it's unlikely to result in us making any major changes to the way our information is structured. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:31, 16 May 2024 (EDT)
:Okay, having seen the booklets in question, it just lists the episodes in production order, continuity errors and all. So...absolutely no change, then. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:44, 17 May 2024 (EDT)

== Documenting MSRP? ==

Would it be worth documenting MSRP prices (in usd at least)? For the regular retail classes that's for the most part covered by the [[size class]] page, but we don't keep track of them for more specialty items like Masterpieces, multipacks, exclusives, one-off releases not in a normal size class, special lines like Missing Link, etc. It's something I find personally interesting and would've liked to know for older figures and someone in the future might want to know about today's releases. It can also offer some neat bits of info like how Premium Finish releases were generally one price point up compared to the figure's size or how the upcoming United Cliffjumper multipack is a whole $30 off what the individual figures would cost --[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 14:20, 21 May 2024 (EDT)
:I think this would be very interesting, particularly when you scroll down pages for G1 toys that got multiple reissues like the Seekers, Insecticons, and tape players. It's just that - like the Designer Notes and the proper insignias on each and every toy - it would take forever to add and would probably wind up being one super-dedicated person having to do most of the work. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:28, 21 May 2024 (EDT)
::I might try to do what I can, going back to recatalogue everything would definitely be a chore. But at the very least I strongly believe it's something we can and should implement for future toy entries. I've started a [[User:BluJayWarrior/Sandbox|MSRP Sandbox]] to try out a few formats, any feedback is appreciated. --[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 05:18, 23 May 2024 (EDT)
::Cleaned up the sandbox page. Anyone have anything to say about the format? Might try applying Style 1 to a few pages this weekend if no one makes any objections. [[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 12:58, 24 May 2024 (EDT)
:::Of those options I like Style 1 the best. As you already noted, the [[size class]] pages covers basically all normal U.S. retail from BW through Legacy, missing things like Platinum and MP. To find contemporary G1 prices, here are some good resources:
:::https://web.archive.org/web/20181125082555/https://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf84.html
:::https://web.archive.org/web/20191114081109/http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf85.html
:::https://web.archive.org/web/20191114091052/http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf86.html
:::https://web.archive.org/web/20191114090836/http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf87.html
:::https://web.archive.org/web/20191114084922/http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf88.html
:::https://web.archive.org/web/20191114081716/http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf89.html
:::https://web.archive.org/web/20191114085830/http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf90.html
:::https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/g1-original-retail-price-listing.1167895/
:::I tried looking for G2 MSRP but couldn't find anything as obvious. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:24, 24 May 2024 (EDT)
::::Thanks for the sources, gonna have to sort through that later. Planning to start with new ROTB characters since they're smaller pages and prices can still be found. I've decided to add prices for retail classes for reader convenience; not everyone will know to go to the size class page for them and its not linked often enough to make it reasonable they would. [[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 14:22, 24 May 2024 (EDT)

: I'd been working on a project like this a long time ago, had originally proposed adding this to the wiki, but then kinda stopped... mostly because near as I could tell, the MSRP in the 80s was something retailers could just make the hell up. The price ranges for any given toy were kinda all over the damn place, and the MSRP was something some retailers used to go "no really we're cheaper SEE?" then make up some price they supposedly "discounted" down from... you know, the thing that got Kay-Bee in legal-type troubles. I was increasingly unsure how to handle that wild price variance concisely on the wiki. In fact...
::https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PBE2i9vLE6fkr933GQbXosA1cxIqB3CkOSnzW0BMdwc/edit#gid=448439989
: Take a look-see. There's at least three different MSRP values for the standard Headmasters, never mind actual sticker prices. Like, I ''want'' to provide this kind of context, I really do, and it's pretty easy once we get to the unified price points of BW on... but for G1 and G2? Woof. That's going to take a bit of mulling. "Average" price maybe, but there's gonna be some Prices Georg here and there throwing shit off. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:35, 24 May 2024 (EDT)
::RE: The sandbox... I'm gonna have to vote against Style 1, because, as noted, price info is very likely going to get... cluttered, and the longer that parenthetical is, the worse it is. I'd REALLY like to keep that to just "size class/type (if not obvious) and release year". And don't forget Takara-release prices, which can be more flexible even within a size class... but at least those have been ''extensively'' documented. I think we need to talk about bit more about everything we'd need to cover and ''how'' before we go implementing anything, and get a few more people in on the discussion. (Sorry for all the add-ons, lightly scattered today.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:18, 24 May 2024 (EDT)
:::Fair enough on the old stuff since that gets convoluted, but the newer stuff is comparatively easier to do and I'd rather start sooner before some MSRP prices get harder to find (ROTB Autobots Unite subline prices seem to have disappeared already). Added the ROTB Airazor page I was gonna start with to the sandbox so you can see how the page might look as a whole. Since you object to Style 1 I added a Style 2 version too. --[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 18:38, 24 May 2024 (EDT)
:::: Assemble the data, sure, but I am going to say do ''not'' actually apply any of this to live articles. Again, there's barely been any time or discussion on a project that is... vast in scope, and we simply do not jump on stuff like this right away, because that means things will get not considered and then we have to re-do hundreds to thousands of pages... and we absolutely do ''not'' do it when there's a giant obvious gap (the first decade of the franchise) that still needs to be considered, as how we handle ''that'' will affect how we handle all the others, because we try and keep things consistent.
:::: Like, just off the top of my head, there's non-US-or-Japan markets to consider for just about everything normal-retail. Which makes me think we may want to look into a collapsible template, like with the toy designers and voice actors, to handle the other markets without overloading the bullet point sections, some of which are already a bit husky. There's the fact that Walmart and Target just dropped the prices on TF Deluxes in the US... but apparently, Hasbro didn't change their "MSRP"/cost at all. In fact a quick jump to Hasbro Pulse shows they're still charging $25 for a ''Legacy/Studio'' Deluxe, while I can pop to the local Target/Walmart and buy 'em at $20, so we gotta consider ranges just like with G1/G2. And again... ''I'm moderately convinced that "MSRP" in the USA was bullshit all along,'' so I don't know that it's the term we even want to use in the first place. Maybe "Retail price" would be better. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:17, 25 May 2024 (EDT)
:::::I think just documenting the MSRP, if we know it, is enough. No need to go down the rabbit hole of tracking down what individual retailers sell them at when they disregard the MSRP (which as, after all, only a suggested price). In my opinion, at least, it's little different from listing the cover prices of books - the only difference is that Hasbro doesn't print their suggested price directly on the box.
:::::Totally hear you on waiting to the pull the trigger until it's been properly discussed, though. Also, I prefer BluJay's Style 2 as well. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 03:46, 25 May 2024 (EDT)
:::::: Um, the problem is, again... I really don't think we HAVE any actual MSRPs outside of Takara's. What's been cataloged here are just "prices they were sold at", which isn't ''specifically'' a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price, the specific price suggested specifically by the manufacturer. Those we'd need a source for, and as I've pointed out, the handful of stated "MSRP"s we've seen for Hasbro stuff... well, someone was lying, likely multiple someones. For BW on we have a pretty strong ''inference'' of MSRP, but, well. And even that's not reliable... I just remembered that Walmart and Target were charging markedly different prices for the ''EarthSpark'' Tacticons, like, a $2 diff.
:::::: What I'm saying is, we might want to just not call it "MSRP" because of that (also, frankly I question how many people even recognize that acronym). And because of the wide variance in prices for older stuff, no, we don't need to list every price at every retailer (there were a billion retailers in the 80s... man, remember when actual competition in the market was a thing?), but we really OUGHT to account for the variance somehow, because it can be wide and ''full''. "''Original price''" might be best, since that's what we're actually reporting here, with something like "$2.99 - $4.99 (US) / ¥500 (Japan) <expand>". I'd rather do a range than a single-price "average" on old stuff, especially when we have so MUCH data on what these were sold at across the nation that we can see the trends and when a particularly high or low price is an outlier adn should not have been counted. "Modern" stuff we can certainly ignore, say, Kohl's's higher prices and just do the average probable-MSRP-if-those-actually-exist prices most places (all two of them) charge. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:10, 25 May 2024 (EDT)
::::Alright, I'll make a [[User:BluJayWarrior/MSRP Catalog|separate sub page]] to catalog prices for now while that gets sorted out
::::As Dark T said, I think prioritizing initial Hasbro MSRP is best as it is the "intended" price (this is what [https://brickset.com Brickset] does for Lego). It's a point of consistency since historically different retailers tend have slight variations on the price anyway (Target/Walmart sometimes being slightly lower, Kohls/BBTS being higher, general lag on reflecting the msrp price increases a few years ago, etc) and I don't think that whole range needs to be noted. Admittedly the current Target/Walmart prices drops are pretty unusual (a whole $5?!) but unless it becomes something more widespread I personally wouldn't consider it as a data point. Might be worth making a note of somewhere if anything, though I'm not sure where --[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 04:26, 25 May 2024 (EDT)

==Micronauts, etc.==
Why are we suddenly gaining detailed issue write-ups for so much of Micronauts, which contains no TF elements at all? Isn't that the point of the IDW Hasbroverse wiki? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:14, 1 August 2024 (EDT)
:Oh and look, now whole issues of M.A.S.K. written 7 years ago with no TF content whatsoever are being pasted from the Hasbroverse wiki. Is the other site going offline or something? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:26, 1 August 2024 (EDT)
::I don't think it was really our intention to formally unveil the project until we were further along, but some of us have been doing a fair bit of work towards creating a [https://gijoe.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page sister wiki for ''G.I. Joe''] where the [https://gijoe.miraheze.org/wiki/Comics#IDW_Publishing_3 out-of-scope IDW Joe coverage] has already been re-homed. The Joe crew hasn't made any calls about what do with non-Joe stuff to be clear (we're sort of preoccupied, there's so much Joe you guys) but I'm guessing the idea here is to align the rest with our [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive71#Energon Universe coverage|current approach]] to [[Energon Universe|Skybound's shared universe]] and sundown the IDW one? --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 15:43, 1 August 2024 (EDT)
:::That is more or less the intention, yeah. The Hasbroverse wiki was built at a time where it was perhaps anticipated to be grander than it ended up being, and it wasn't certain how long it was going to run; with the end result being "not very", having this other vestigial site for what is ultimately not a lot of content just doesn't feel practical. The exception, of course, is pre-V5 Joe, which has ''always'' been the sticking point in discussions about moving Hasbroverse content here, both for the amount and for how little it has to do with the IDW Transformers line. Having a dedicated Joe wiki solves that problem and frees up the rest of the Hasbroverse stuff to be reintegrated. Plus, there's still new Joe material being released to this day; arguably having a complete and better curated site for the franchise as a whole that continues to be updated with new releases is more likely to drive traffic and get other people to contribute than it would be linking to a dead wiki for a long-ended comic line that's had the same featured articles for five years because no one cares to add anything to it anymore. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:59, 1 August 2024 (EDT)
::::It does look like a rough consensus was reached to do this back in 2021 ([[Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive69#Reintegration_of_Hasbroverse_wiki_content|Archive 69]]), it was just never implemented. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 16:10, 1 August 2024 (EDT)
::Like half of MASK issues have something from Transformers in them. Picking and choosing which select issues to cover here is hair-splitting and obnoxious for readers. It's immensely better to just have all the information in one, easily-accessible spot and regard Hasbro Universe as a de facto spinoff of Transformers, much like Beastformers and Energon Universe are. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:10, 1 August 2024 (EDT)

==One spoilers==
I propose that information about this movie be withheld until it actually opens in its largest market next weekend. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:04, 14 September 2024 (EDT)
: Agreed. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 11:08, 14 September 2024 (EDT)

==Transformers One and the conversation we've all been waiting for==

On September 12th, Lorenzo di Bonaventura [https://comicbook.com/movies/news/is-transformers-one-a-prequel-optimus-prime-origin-story-exclusive/ clarified the relationship] between ''Transformers One'' and the live-action ''Transformers'' films, describing them as "two universes" that will be "separate". For some, this kind of explicit confirmation may come as a relief after years of wishy-washy answers regarding ''Bumblebee'' and ''Rise of the Beasts'', but it also leaves us with questions on how to best handle ''One''-related information going forward. Around 2015, we adopted a unique layout we applied to all the movie characters, where we organized their movie appearances at the top of the page, regardless of chronological order of release (see "[[Optimus Prime (Movie)#Movies]]"). Obviously, this leads to some questions regarding how we should handle our ''One'' coverage going forward.

The way I see it, we have three options:

* '''Keep the page format as is, and keep''' '''''One''''' '''up with the rest of the movies''': For obvious reasons I think this is probably our weakest possible solution; it's pretty clear at this point that our current solution for classifying the films is not really sustainable, and mashing them all together under a single loosely-affiliated umbrella is already confusing and frustrating people who aren't intimately acquainted with the mechanics of the wiki.

* '''Reorganize movie character pages so that we acknowledge the live-action films and''' '''''One''''' '''as separate continuities within one continuity family, similar to how our G1 pages cover Sunbow, Marvel, JG1, IDW, etc.''': Historically speaking, this is probably the safest option, but from what I understand there is very little "connective tissue"—visually, character-wise, plot-beats—between the live-action films and ''One'' beyond the inertia of "they were both made by Paramount". As some people have discussed in the past, this could lead to a full or partial reformat of our movie character coverage to more clearly reflect the ambiguous "prequel" status of ''Bumblebee'' and ''Rise of the Beasts'', but this may be a conversation for another time.

* '''Separate''' '''''One''''' '''as an entirely new continuity family and split out the relevant information so we have pages for "Optimus Prime (One)", "Megatron (One)", etc.''' Probably the most radical proposal, but this is honestly where I'm at right now: from what I understand the movie is a pretty radical departure from everything that's gone before, with entirely new interpretations of old ''Transformers'' lore—I'd classify it as the start of a new "franchise" in the same way that we distinguish ''Earthspark'' and ''Cyberverse'' despite them both clearly drawing on the same well of post-Aligned lore, and these days "new franchise" is generally synonymous with "new continuity family" for the ease of wiki bookkeeping.

We would appreciate hearing your thoughts on the matter! '''As the film is not out yet in all regions please refrain from posting spoilers here'''. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 08:56, 15 September 2024 (EDT)

:I could see option 3 being the way we go, but what holds me back from that is that beyond just Paramount, Spielberg and Bay are still executive producers on the film. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:39, 15 September 2024 (EDT)

::I think we should put them on the Earthspark Continuity pages to satisfy no-one /j - but yeah, the film is drawing from the same vaguely Binder Of Revelation backstory as everything else for the last 10 years, and unless they have been hiding The Fallen twisting D-16 to evil or the twist that the Creators were the Quintessons all along, One feels pretty decoupled from the rest of the movies. The big issue I see with splitting out fully is that people wondering why we do not do the same for Bumblebee/ROTB, but that more easily passes a "vibe check" as being "Movie-adjacent" and belonging on the same page as the Bay 5-dom than One so far. Agree that trying to put them directly alongside the other movies as a prequel feels both unwieldy and confusing. [[User:AkibaSilver|AkibaSilver]] ([[User talk:AkibaSilver|talk]]) 09:41, 15 September 2024 (EDT)

:I vote for '''option 3''', I think creating separate pages is the way to go. [[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 09:54, 15 September 2024 (EDT)
::I vote for '''option 2'''. To me the movie is different enough to be a separate universe but not an entirely different continuity. Josh Cooley himself on April 18 when asked whether the film is a fresh start, a prequel to the live-action films, or its own thing, replied with: "yes to all of the above" https://comicbook.com/movies/news/transformers-one-director-confirms-new-movies-canon-status. (And having seen the movie I can confirm those connections to the live-action series do exist). [[User:Grievous Prime|Grievous Prime]] ([[User talk:Grievous Prime|talk]]) 10:05, 15 September 2024 (EDT)

:I vote for '''option 3'''. One has always felt very different to the previous live action movies so I feel it should get its own dedicated pages. As for BB and ROTB, there is "connective tissue" to the Bayverse movies so I feel they can stay on the pre-existing movie pages. [[User:PublicCrown|PublicCrown]] ([[User talk:PublicCrown|talk]]) 10:25, 15 September 2024 (EDT)
:Having viewed the film at an advance screening, I think there are easily enough references and homages to previous films that '''option two''' makes the most sense. - [[User:Archforce|Archforce]] ([[User talk:Archforce|talk]]) 10:45, 15 September 2024 (EDT)

::I'm favorable for the '''3rd option''', it is still produced under Paramount & there are some producers attached to the project that were on previous movies, but my stance is that we should judge based on the final product & having seen the movie, it doesn't try to be in line to what came before (there are some similarities in design & names, but it stops there since every popular TF stories has influence over the next ones), helped by the new team of writers & creatives. If we can treat each new cartoon as its own entity (even tho in recent years they are streamlined in some areas), I think we can do the same for the recent movies that have more contradictory elements to the Bayverse –[[User:MahXyme|MahXyme/MahXymal]] ([[User talk:MahXyme|talk]]) 10:49, 15 September 2024 (EDT)
:'''<nowiki>#3</nowiki>''' is the cleanest option to me. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:32, 15 September 2024 (EDT)

:I think from a practical perspective, '''#3''' is the only real option. Looking at the loose guidelines for a new family on our [[continuity family]] page:
:*"a fresh continuity" — Yep, even Lorenzo's acknowledged this. Even if we questioned that, there's stuff like the AllSpark being absent (with the Matrix pretty much taking exactly the role the AllSpark would have), Megatronus being a good guy, and Sentinel's role being entirely irreconcilable with Dark of the Moon.
:*"within a separate franchise" — Yep. New franchise, and the marketing hasn't done anything to allude to the live-action films specifically.
:*"significantly different in cast, theme, style, etc." — This is the big sticking point for me. One makes no attempt to align with the visual style or characterisations of the live-action films. The sole real connective point is B-127 (name from ''Bumblebee'', he has the big cheeks and antenna of the movie guy, and his talking a lot is clearly a meta-gag about him losing his voice), but even he's characterised completely differently, as the "comedy crazy guy" who's a peer to Optimus and co instead of the cool-but-rude big brother figure from Bay/Bee/Beasts.
:I'm sympathetic to the Paramount/Bay/Spielberg/Di Bonaventura connective tissue, but my big rebuttal there is that we don't consider ''EarthSpark'' to be Aligned because Nicole Dubuc is the showrunner. Ultimately, if we hadn't had pre-release producer statements (now contradicted) calling it a prequel to the other movies, there's absolutely no way this would be in question — we'd already have it as a separate continuity family. And from a wiki organisation standpoint I don't think there's any way to, say, write up Sentinel Prime's opening paragraph in a way that adequately covers both the DOTM and One characters without genericising it to the point of uselessness. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 12:33, 15 September 2024 (EDT)
::Yeah, I think '''#3''' is straightforward and likely the approach we'd take if we were presented with the film, as a story, with zero context on the studio releasing it or EPs involved or whatever. I also think there's a high likelihood that the next live-action film will have Elita appear and be like "hey Optimus remember when we were in Transformers One?" and we'll all groan and have to reconsider, but until then, I think the real-world context is basically the only thing separating One from just being the next Broadly Aligned-y New Thing like Cyberverse and EarthSpark before it, which we consistently split out for organisation reasons. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:45, 15 September 2024 (EDT)
:Toss me in for '''Option 3''' of an entirely new continuity given how ''different'' the story details has been laid out when compared to the original 2007 film-verse and then later what's set by ''Bumblebee''. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 14:38, 15 September 2024 (EDT)
:Voting for '''option #2'''. While we would still have the outlier of TF:TAM 86 being a theatrically released movie in the G1 continuity family, I see no reason why "movie continuity family" would not only include transmedia spinoffs from feature films (''Reign of Starscream'', toy redeco Tech Specs, etc. etc.) but also feature films which are belonging different timelines and story universes. This would also free us from having to reconcile Movie 'Bee's history -- did he come to Earth in the 1940s or the 1980s? -- and put to bed *that* long running argument about whether the Bay-directed films were the same universe as BB and RotB or not -- now they don't have to be! [[User:Banpei the Mini-Con|Banpei the Mini-Con]] ([[User talk:Banpei the Mini-Con|talk]]) 14:58, 15 September 2024 (EDT)
:Having seen the movie, I think '''#3''' is our cleanest option. Between the Lorenzo interview and, without going into spoilers, the numerous discrepencies there are, I don't think we can get away with suiting it out ala G1. The time may come when we do that for Bumblebee onwards but as far as One goes, I say we treat it as a new continuity. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 19:53, 15 September 2024 (EDT)
:'''#3'''. #2 was close for me, but TFOne (having seen the movie) is so artistically different from the live action movies, it feels pointless to keep it on the same page like G1/IDW. Ironically, we could give Bayverse/BB&ROTB the G1/IDW treatment. [[User:Boingus|--Boingus]] ([[User talk:Boingus|talk]]) 23:23, 15 September 2024 (EDT)
:I think 3 is where I'm leaning after seeing the film. Keeping this as "movie continuity" simply because it was released theatrically doesn't make sense to me. We wouldn't do that with a new comic or show because it was the same medium, why do it for a movie just because of that? Yes There is some CNA here to the live action films, but it could be argued it has just as much pulled from G1. One is it's own thing in the end. Trying to fit it into the live action movie box just doesn't feel right in this case.--[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 05:47, 16 September 2024 (EDT)
:I vote for '''Option 3''' for all the reasons previously mentioned as well as size concerns. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:29, 16 September 2024 (EDT)
:'''Option 3''', I believe the movie was clearly made with a new continuity in mind.-[[User:TitaniumToughGuy|TitaniumToughGuy]] ([[User talk:TitaniumToughGuy|talk]]) 09:38, 16 September 2024 (EDT)
===CHECKPOINT (2024/09/16)===
*Votes for Option 1: 1 (96megatron)
*Votes for Option 2: 3 (GrievousPrime, Archforce, Banpei the Mini-Con)
*Votes for Option 3: 15 (Locoman, AkibaSilver, MrRald, PublicCrown, MahXyme, Saix, Broadside, Jalaguy, Lonegamer, Ezim93, Boingus, ParadoxFactor, Khajidha, TitaniumToughGuy, CyberLink420)
As it stands, current consensus is pretty overwhelmingly in favor of Option 3 by a ratio of 5:1. I know it's only been a day, but barring a sudden swell of support for #2, it might be prudent to start switching everything over. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 10:20, 16 September 2024 (EDT)
: I'm reluctant to make actual changes until the movie hits wide release and the general public can make informed input. Give it a few more days. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 10:40, 16 September 2024 (EDT)
::::This. Let people... SEE the movie before we make important decisions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:49, 16 September 2024 (EDT)
::::Right. We can wait a few days for more than a small handful of people to see this and base their decision on, you know, '''''the actual movie''''' rather than whatever someone who had something to do with it says ''this'' week, which historically has waffled between "vague" and "contradictory". Hell, even ''now'' some of them are still being all "well maybe it is and maybe it isn't" and frankly I have no faith they won't ride that ambiguity for a long time like they've done since ''Bumblebee''. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:49, 16 September 2024 (EDT)
::I've said ever since Keegan Michael Key tweeted as much that One should be treated as a separate continuity. '''Option 3''' for sure. {{unsigned|jmcdavid}}
:'''Option 3'''. I've seen the movie and other users have covered why that seems like the best choice. It feels as different from the previous movies as Prime is from Animated, or Earthspark from Sunbow (which, despite directly homaging/referencing Sunbow, Earthspark is considered separate from). [[User:Ashendawn|Ashendawn]] ([[User talk:Ashendawn|talk]]) 18:01, 16 September 2024 (EDT)
::I vote '''Option 2'''. There seems to be a large focus on whether or not the film fits in continuity with the prior films, but considering how little they fit with each other that feels irrelevant to me. The creators have been rather unclear whether this film should be considered separate from the ongoing live-action series in terms of production, just in terms of universe. If we had a sense this was the springboard for an entirely separate animated film series I'd say Option 3, but it feels unwarranted at this time. [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 20:29, 16 September 2024 (EDT)
:I'm voting '''Option 3'''; much of my reasons are the same as others have stated above, and I do apologise for opening this bags of worms on the ''One'' talk page. It's not that I don't understand why some people are opposed to creating a new set if pages, but for argument's sake, if ''One'' gets one or more sequels, it would likely draw further away from the established live-action films and become its own continuity/franchise (though that's more of a what-if right now). Overall, I personally think that separating live-action films and animated ones into their own continuities is a reasonable option, and I believe that ''One'' has proven itself a different entity. [[User:Prime Temple|Prime Temple]] ([[User talk:Prime Temple|talk]]) 06:26, 17 September 2024 (EDT)

::Also '''Option 3''' . In tone, content, continuity, style, story, just feels too different to me from the Michael Bay and other films, really only having the method of release in common. It feels more separate from the other movies than even Cyberverse from G1, and that’s happily separate. —[[User:MissDaria|MissDaria]] ([[User talk:MissDaria|talk]]) 10:05, 17 September 2024 (EDT)
:Screen Rant: I vote for '''Option 1''' This came out from ScreenRant today. Is Transformers One considered a prequel to the recent movies of Bumblebee and Rise of the Beast or the original live-action film starting in 2007? Or is it something completely, entirely new? ... Lorenzo di Bonaventura: "It obviously exists beforehand. I think we figured it out. It was like 300 million years before the first Michael Bay movie, so if that's a prequel, that's a prequel. But we're really following the lore about where it starts, and so we really just think about it as the beginning of the story. The origin, yes, but literally the beginning of the thing that we've all come to appreciate." https://screenrant.com/transformers-one-lorenzo-di-bonaventura-and-josh-cooley-interview/ [[User:96megatron|96megatron]] ([[User talk:96megatron|talk]]) 10:56, 17 September 2024 (EDT)
::Voting for '''Option 2'''. If adding stuff like Aligned backstory influence disqualifies One from being movie, then there could be an argument for splitting IDW characters off from the G1 pages because of things like the absence of the traditional "Ark crashes on Earth, everyone wakes up 4 million years later" backstory, and no amount of Owning The Bayverse (which I can't help but feel some of the desire to split One off is fueled by) is worth opening that can of worms. [[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] ([[User talk:BattleBlade|talk]]) 12:31, 17 September 2024 (EDT)
:Voting '''Option 3''', y'all gotta stop taking Lorenzo's word as gospel especially over the actual creatives behind these movies. [[User:Jman98|Jman98]] ([[User talk:Jman98|talk]]) 14:25, 17 September 2024 (EDT)
:Voting '''Option 3''', Lorenzo has made multiple contradictory statements in the past, some having been outright proven wrong. He doesn't seem like he's involved enough in the productions in order to make concrete statements about their continuity, nor is he a representative of Hasbro. [[User:TheDarkMage10218|TheDarkMage10218]] ([[User talk:TheDarkMage10218|talk]]) 19:30, 17 September 2024 (CST)
:: While I would agree that splitting it out makes the most sense as I currently see it, lets also not pretend the wiki is under some thrall to the evil boogeyman known as "the fandoms view of Lorenzo" and ignore that multiple creatives for all the movies people like to argue are definitely not Bayverse for realsies have made contradictory statements about whether or not the films are all supposed to be prequels / sequels, and its because [https://x.com/SJ_Broadside/status/1836084548020338988 they are not ubernerds who care about whether this movie perfectly follows the backstory of one from nearly 2 decades ago]. Just personally, I am seeing this like the High Moon Games advertising themselves as a G1 prequel back in the day - for people not like us, all of Transformers falls into the same vague umbrella, so sure, it can be a "prequel" to the rest of the movies, in the same way Optimus Prime is Optimus Prime is Optimus Prime to Hasbro, no matter whether he be G1, Movie, Animated, or Armada. [[User:AkibaSilver|AkibaSilver]] ([[User talk:AkibaSilver|talk]]) 04:34, 18 September 2024 (EDT)
:::Haven't seen the movie yet, but I strongly agree with that comment. This wiki has never been governed by author intent, and particularly regarding the live-action movies there are too many authors giving too much contradictory intent about contradictory material. ''We'' made up the concept of a "continuity family," that concept ''we made up'' is now old enough for a driver's license, we will have to continue making our own judgments about which stories mesh with what. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:45, 18 September 2024 (EDT)
:::: All this, and as to that last point: "continuity family" ''has literally '''NEVER''' meant "all fits into one actual internal timeline"''. There's a reason we used the word "family". We treat the totally-irreconcilable-timelines-having G1 cartoon and G1 comic as part of the same "family" (and BW as well), because of an ''external'' concept of them being "related" to each other by dint of the how and who and why of their creations. And this has held true as we moved forward, the above-mentioned High Moon statements being a very good example. The sheer squirreliness of multiple creatives -and the films themselves- over the past half-decade or so over "continuity" (and let's just dismiss out of hand what a ''voice actor'' thinks, okay), doesn't exactly make me think that the future won't see more squirreliness in whatever comes next. "The existing character pages are too big already" is a more convincing argument for a full-on split, and we got subpages/suites for that problem. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:17, 18 September 2024 (EDT)
::::: You all make great points; I amend my reasoning for my choice of Option 3: One deviates stylistically and tonally from the live-action movies, and it isn't even live-action to begin with. [[User:TheDarkMage10218|TheDarkMage10218]] ([[User talk:TheDarkMage10218|talk]]) 22:37, 18 September 2024 (EDT)
:Having seen the movie, I believe '''Option 3''' is the best. It is irreconcilable with the Bay films on several levels (more so than ROTB/Bumblebee). It is extremely aesthetically and tonally different from them as well. I feel that grouping One with the rest of the live-action films simply because they share the same release venue would be akin to grouping Prime and G1. [[User:Paladin Denn|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn|talk]]) 15:22, 18 September 2024 (EDT)

:Just got out of the advanced screening, I think '''Option 3''' would be the best option. There's a few details that clash with the prior films in many regards. It has an overall different feel. --[[User:GordonShumway8690|GordonShumway8690]] ([[User talk:GordonShumway8690|talk]]) 22:10, 18 September 2024 (EDT)

:Just saw the movie, and I vote '''Option 3'''. This movie ''cannot'' be in the same continuity as the other films, so Option 3 would be our safest bet. [[User:Decepticon Stryker|Decepticon Stryker]] ([[User talk:Decepticon Stryker|talk]]) 01:06, 19 September 2024 (EDT)

Talk:Megatron (Cyberverse)

2024-03-31T18:12:28Z

Decepticon Stryker: Found out something about the Battle Call figure, just asking before editing anything

Does the upcoming Siege voyager class toy count as a new to for this Megatron, seeing that they are both using the Evergreen design? ---[[User:NITR0B1AST|NITR0B1AST]] 23:21, 8 October 2018
:No. The Siege voyager is of the G1 megatron, and goes on his page. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 04:23, 9 October 2018 (EDT)
::Okay, thanks!---[[User:NITR0B1AST|NITR0B1AST]] 18:37, 9 October 2018

==Battle Call Armor==
I’ve been fooling around with the Battle Call figure, and found out that in addition to the arm blade and scythes combining, the armor itself can also combine with them using tabs to form… something. Should this be mentioned or is it not really important? I can take pictures, but I’m still not good enough with this stuff to post them. [[User:Decepticon Stryker|Decepticon Stryker]] ([[User talk:Decepticon Stryker|talk]]) 14:12, 31 March 2024 (EDT)

Ghoid

2024-02-24T01:24:36Z

Decepticon Stryker: Added one last bit to fiction summary

{{factions|ghost|{{factions/icons|custom=Mandroid Insignia.png|cSize=40x40px|cLink=Mandroid}}}}
:''Ghoids are humanoid robots from the [[Transformers: EarthSpark (franchise)|EarthSpark]] [[continuity family]].''
{{mainpic}}
What looks to be an agent of [[G.H.O.S.T.]] could very well be one of the '''Ghoids''', robotic troopers created by [[Mandroid]] and under the command of Executive Agent [[Karen Croft]]. Possessing superhuman strength and reflexes almost on par with [[Transformer|Cybertronians]], Croft intends to use them as a personal army to protect [[Earth]] from the Cybertronian threat...by conquering [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] itself.

==Fiction==
===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
Upon discovering the rogue [[Autobot]] [[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] infiltrating G.H.O.S.T. HQ, Croft deployed one of the Ghoids, dressed as an armored G.H.O.S.T. Agent, to dispose of him. Bumblebee clashed with the Ghoid, eventually knocking its helmet off and revealing its true face. Bumblebee continued to fight it, as Croft ordered several more Ghoids to attack. The Ghoids managed to pin Bumblebee, but he was quickly rescued by the arrival of [[Robby Malto]], [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]], [[Twitch]], [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]], and [[Jon Schloder]]. Robby and the [[Terran]]s managed to escape, but the Ghoids captured Bumblebee and Schloder. {{storylink|Stowed Away, Stowaways}}

After the fight, several Ghoids disposed of their deactivated brethren, and were present when Mandroid used Croft's reconstructed [[space bridge|spacebridge]] to depart for parts unknown. Later, several squads of Ghoids led by Croft surrounded the Malto farm in an effort to apprehend the Terrans, but faced resistance from the Malto family and their newfound ally [[Shockwave (ES)|Shockwave]]. The family was soon joined by [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]], and the rest of the Autobots, with the Ghoids being quickly disposed of, forcing Croft to use her a new weapon to bring the Autobots under control. The remaining Ghoids recovered and restrained Shockwave and prepared to apprehend the Maltos, but were interrupted by the return of Mandroid. {{storylink|The Battle of Witwicky}}

[[Category:Drones]]
[[Category:EarthSpark technology]]
[[Category:G.H.O.S.T.]]

Ghoid

2024-02-24T01:20:28Z

Decepticon Stryker: Corrected statement. I don’t think it’s been confirmed if Mandroid actually made the Ghoids or not.

{{factions|ghost}}
:''Ghoids are humanoid robots from the [[Transformers: EarthSpark (franchise)|EarthSpark]] [[continuity family]].''
{{mainpic}}
What looks to be an agent of [[G.H.O.S.T.]] could very well be one of the '''Ghoids''', robotic troopers under the command of Executive Agent [[Karen Croft]]. Possessing superhuman strength and reflexes almost on par with [[Transformer|Cybertronians]], Croft intends to use them as a personal army to protect [[Earth]] from the Cybertronian threat...by conquering [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] itself.

==Fiction==
===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
Upon discovering the rogue [[Autobot]] [[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] infiltrating G.H.O.S.T. HQ, Croft deployed one of the Ghoids, dressed as an armored G.H.O.S.T. Agent, to dispose of him. Bumblebee clashed with the Ghoid, eventually knocking its helmet off and revealing its true face. Bumblebee continued to fight it, as Croft ordered several more Ghoids to attack. The Ghoids managed to pin Bumblebee, but he was quickly rescued by the arrival of [[Robby Malto]], [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]], [[Twitch]], [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]], and [[Jon Schloder]]. Robby and the [[Terran]]s managed to escape, but the Ghoids captured Bumblebee and Schloder. {{storylink|Stowed Away, Stowaways}}

After the fight, several Ghoids disposed of their deactivated brethren, and were present when Mandroid used Croft's reconstructed [[space bridge|spacebridge]] to depart for parts unknown. Later, several squads of Ghoids led by Croft surrounded the Malto farm in an effort to apprehend the Terrans, but faced resistance from the Malto family and their newfound ally [[Shockwave (ES)|Shockwave]]. The family was soon joined by [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (ES)|Megatron]], and the rest of the Autobots, both sides only stopping with the return of Mandroid. {{storylink|The Battle of Witwicky}}

[[Category:Drones]]
[[Category:EarthSpark technology]]
[[Category:G.H.O.S.T.]]

Ghoid

2024-02-24T01:15:10Z

Decepticon Stryker: Accidentally hit save instead of show preview. Created Ghoid page. Thinking of adding a notes section, but since the only note I could have was purely speculation, I decided to hold off for now. ~~~~

{{factions|ghost}}
:''Ghoids are humanoid robots from the [[Transformers: EarthSpark (franchise)|EarthSpark]] [[continuity family]].''

What looks to be an agent of [[G.H.O.S.T.]] could very well be one of the '''Ghoids''', robotic troopers under the command of Executive Agent [[Karen Croft]]. Possessing superhuman strength and reflexes almost on par with Cybertronians, Croft intends to use them as a personal army to protect [[Earth]] from the threat posed by Cybertronians.
==Fiction==
===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
Upon discovering the rogue [[Autobot]] [[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] infiltrating G.H.O.S.T. HQ, Croft deployed one of the Ghoids, dressed as an armored G.H.O.S.T. Agent, to dispose of him. Bumblebee clashed with the Ghoid, eventually knocking its helmet off and revealing its true face. Bumblebee continued to fight it, as Croft ordered several more Ghoids to attack. The Ghoids managed to pin Bumblebee, but he was quickly rescued by the arrival of [[Robby Malto]], [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]], [[Twitch]], [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]], and [[Jon Schloder]]. Robby and the [[Terran|Terrans]] managed to escape, but the Ghoids captured Bumblebee and Schloder. {{storylink|Stowed Away, Stowaways}}

After the fight, several Ghoids disposed of their deactivated brethren, and were present when [[Mandroid]] used Croft’s reconstructed [[Space bridge|space bridge]] to depart for parts unknown. Later, several squads of Ghoids led by Croft surrounded the Malto farm in an effort to apprehend the Terrans, but faced resistance from the Malto family and their newfound ally [[Shockwave (ES)| Shockwave]]. The family was soon joined by [[Optimus Prime (ES)| Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (ES)| Megatron]], and the rest of the [[Autobot|Autobots]], both sides only stopping with the return of Mandroid. {{storylink|The Battle of Witwicky}}
[[Category:G.H.O.S.T.]]

Ghoid

2024-02-24T01:06:38Z

Decepticon Stryker: Created page with "{{factions|ghost}} :''Ghoids are humanoid robots from the EarthSpark continuity family.'' What looks to be an agent of [[G.H.O...."

{{factions|ghost}}
:''Ghoids are humanoid robots from the [[Transformers: EarthSpark (franchise)|EarthSpark]] [[continuity family]].''

What looks to be an agent of [[G.H.O.S.T.]] could very well be one of the '''Ghoids''', robotic troopers under the command of Executive Agent [[Karen Croft]]. Possessing superhuman strength and reflexes almost on par with Cybertronians, Croft intends to use them as a personal army to protect [[Earth]] from the threat posed by Cybertronians.
==Fiction==
===''EarthSpark'' cartoon===
Upon discovering the rogue [[Autobot]] [[Bumblebee (ES)|Bumblebee]] infiltrating G.H.O.S.T. HQ, Croft deployed one of the Ghoids, dressed as an armored G.H.O.S.T. Agent, to dispose of him. Bumblebee clashed with the Ghoid, eventually knocking its helmet off and revealing its true face. Bumblebee continued to fight it, as Croft ordered several more Ghoids to attack. The Ghoids managed to pin Bumblebee, but he was quickly rescued by the arrival of [[Robby Malto]], [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]], [[Twitch]], [[Thrash (ES)|Thrash]], and [[Jon Schloder]]. Robby and the [[Terran|Terrans]] managed to escape, but the Ghoids captured Bumblebee and Schloder. {{storylink|Stowed Away, Stowaways}}

After the fight, several Ghoids disposed of their deactivated brethren, and were present when [[Mandroid]] used Croft’s reconstructed [[Spacebridge|spacebridge]] to depart for parts unknown. Later, several squads of Ghoids led by Croft surrounded the Malto farm in an effort to apprehend the Terrans, but faced resistance from the Malto family and their newfound ally [[Shockwave (ES)| Shockwave]]. The family was soon joined by [[Optimus Prime (ES)| Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (ES)| Megatron]], and the rest of the [[Autobot|Autobots]], both sides only stopping with the return of Mandroid. {{storylink|The Battle of Witwicky}}
[[Category:G.H.O.S.T.]]

Sargasso

2023-11-13T20:20:38Z

Decepticon Stryker: Added a joke caption under article thumbnail

[[Image:Planet Sargasso.jpg|thumb|300px|Sargassum, the Weed of Deceit…]]

'''Sargasso''' (サルガッソー ''Sarugassō'') is a planet, albeit in a very loose sense. It is essentially a mass of spider webs, with gigantic spiders to match.

==Fiction==
===''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoon===
When the ''[[Gung Ho]]'' [[Maximal]] crew detected an [[Angolmois Energy|Angolmois]] Capsule on Sargasso, [[Big Convoy]] opted to go alone. There, he was snared by the gigantic spider that lived nearby. Witnessing this capture was [[Sling (BW)|Sling]] and [[Saberback]], who reported back to [[Magmatron]] on the ''[[Dinosaur (ship)|Dinosaur]]''. Realizing that Big Convoy's absence provided easy opportunity to hunt down the Angolmois Capsule, Magmatron had [[Guiledart]] and [[Dead End (BW)|Dead End]] teleported to Sargasso to search for the capsule.

With no report from Big Convoy, [[Longrack (BW)|Longrack]] attempted to assume command of the Maximals, but they collectively ignored him and went to search for Big Convoy in Sargasso. There, they split into two groups. One group was soon besieged upon by the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]], and the other group was wrapped up in the gigantic spider's webs. The two groups met up, and the trapped Longrack attempted to keep ordering around the other Maximals in battle with the Predacons. Fortunately, the competent Big Convoy, who had freed himself from the clutches of the spider, rescued the Maximals and killed the spider in the process. The outnumbered Predacons attempted to escape, but became stuck on the sticky walls of the planet's chambers. Big Convoy put Longrack in his place and had the Angolmois Capsule brought to the ''Gung Ho''.

Meanwhile, at the ''Dinosaur'', the ship was infested with tiny spiders that the Predacons had brought aboard. {{storylink|Sub-Commander Longrack}}

===''Animated'' cartoon===
Sargasso was an unclaimed organic planet in the [[Milky Way]]. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
In [[Aurex 006.0 Kappa]], [[Spacewarp]] found the [[Maelstrom Exchequer]] on a wreck on Sargasso. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime}}

==Notes==
*"Sargasso" is named as such based on the {{w|Sargasso Sea}}'s original etymology from ''{{w|Sargassum}}'', a seaweed genus. It's similar to a tangled mass of seaweed, essentially.

[[Category:Animated planets]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Neo planets]]

Talk:Cliffjumper (Armada)

2023-06-16T17:06:27Z

Decepticon Stryker: /* Possible Hook Issue */

==Possible Hook Issue==

Hello, I’m new to this so if this either doesn’t go here or not formatted correctly please forgive me.
Anyway, I’ve been looking for Cliffjumper on eBay and I’ve noticed a lot of them have are missing the hook, and for the listings that do have the hook still attached, the descriptions stated that the hook is fragile. I know it’s almost microscopic, but I’ve never seen any use of this mold outside of Cliffjumper to be missing the hook on the secondary market. Do we know if both that size and possibly the orange plastic are particularly fragile on this version? And if so, should it be mentioned on that actual page?
Again, I’m new to this; if none of this belongs here then I apologize and please feel free to delete it.[[User:Decepticon Stryker|Decepticon Stryker]] 08:22, 27 May 2023 (Arizona time) (?)

User:Decepticon Stryker

2023-05-27T15:53:34Z

Decepticon Stryker: More grammar corrcetions

I just want to help out in any way I can, mostly through minor trivia and stuff.
==(Pointless) Trivia==
*First Transformers: [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|(Bendy) Armada Optimus Prime with Over-Run]] and [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Armada Cyclonus with Crumplezone]]
*Has a [[Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers Decepticon Version]] Instruction Manual signed by [[Steve Blum]]
*Stupidly spent over $400 on an [[Optimus Prime (Universe)|Optimus Prime]].
*Has an almost fanatical devotion to the 1954 classic {{w|THEM!}} And will take any opportunity to convince others to watch it.
*Cursed with the ability to retain and recall the most useless trivia but can’t remember anything important.
**For example, the sound that the ants from ‘''THEM!'' make is actually a recording of the croaking of the ‘’Hyla Avivoca’’ with a few bird calls in the background.
***And no, I didn’t need to look up Hyla Avivoca. I literally have that name embedded into my mind permanently.

User:Decepticon Stryker

2023-05-27T15:51:52Z

Decepticon Stryker: Grammar corrections

I just want to help out in any way I can, mostly through minor trivia and stuff.
==(Pointless) Trivia==
*First Transformers: [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|(Bendy) Armada Optimus Prime with Over-Run]] and [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Armada Cyclonus with Crumplezone]]
*Has a [[Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers Decepticon Version]] Instruction Manual signed by [[Steve Blum]]
*Stupidly spent over $400 on an [[Optimus Prime (Universe)|Optimus Prime]].
*Has an almost fanatical devotion to the 1954 classic {{w|THEM!}} And will take any opportunity to convince others to watch it.
*Cursed with the ability to retain and recall the most useless trivia but can’t remember anything important.
**For example, the sound the ants from ‘’Them!’’ make is actually a recording of the croaking of the ‘’Hyla Avivoca’’ with a few bird calls in the background.
***And no, I didn’t need to look up Hyla Avivoca. I literally have that name embedded into my mind permanently.

User:Decepticon Stryker

2023-05-27T15:51:15Z

Decepticon Stryker: Made an about myself section

I just want to help out in any way I can, mostly through minor trivia and stuff.
==(Pointless) Trivia==
*First Transformers: [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|(Bendy) Armada Optimus Prime with Over-Run]] and [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Armada Cyclonus with Crumplezone]]
*Has a [[Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers Decepticon Version]] Instruction Manual signed by [[Steve Blum]]
*Stupidly spent over $400 on an [[Optimus Prime (Universe)|Optimus Prime]].
*Has an almost fanatical devotion to the 1954 classic {{w|THEM!}} And will take any opportunity to convince others to watch it.
*Cursed with the ability to retain and recall the most useless trivia but can’t remember anything important.
**For example, the sound the ants from ‘’Them!’’ Make is actually a recording of the croaking of the ‘’Hyla Avivoca’’ with a few bird calls in the background.
***And no, I didn’t need to look up Hyla Avivoca. I literally have that name embedded into my mind permanently.

Talk:Cliffjumper (Armada)

2023-05-27T15:23:25Z

Decepticon Stryker: Asked about a possible issue that may arise with the figure

==Possible Hook Issue==

Hello, I’m new to this so if this either doesn’t go here or not formatted correctly please forgive me.
Anyway, I’ve been looking for Cliffjumper on eBay and I’ve noticed a lot of them have are missing the hook, and for the listings that do have the hook still attached, the descriptions wasn’t that the hook is fragile. I know it’s almost microscopic, but I’ve never seen any use of this mold outside of Cliffjumper to be missing the hook on the secondary market. Do we know if both that size and possibly the orange plastic are particularly fragile on this version? And if so, should it be mentioned on that actual page?
Again, I’m new to this; if none of this belongs here then I apologize and please feel free to delete it.[[User:Decepticon Stryker|Decepticon Stryker]] 08:22, 27 May 2023 (Arizona time) (?)