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[[File:Transformers- Age of ExtinctionOptimusPrimePoster.jpg‎|thumb|upright=1.67|An adventure 65 million years in the making.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Age of Extinction&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is the fourth film in the [[live-action film series]]. It was released on [[June 27]], [[2014]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Following the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Battle of Chicago]], humanity has come to fear both Autobots and Decepticons alike. With the aid of a Transformer mercenary named [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]], a CIA [[Cemetery Wind|task-force]] operated by [[Harold Attinger]] begins hunting the remaining [[Transformer]]s on [[Earth]]. Hunted by enemies that were once his allies, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] loses faith in humanity and sends his forces into hiding. Now, five years later, struggling inventor and single-father [[Cade Yeager]] discovers a damaged Transformer, placing both himself and his [[Tessa Yeager|daughter]] on a collision course with events that threaten the extinction of humankind itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|The trouble with loyalty to a cause is that the cause will &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; betray you.|[[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]|&#039;&#039;Transformers: Age of Extinction&#039;&#039;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- copy and paste from wikipedia AND YOU WILL DIE, WE WILL MURDER YOU --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The Creators cyberforming Earth AOE.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;God creates dinosaurs. God destroys dinosaurs. God creates man. Man destroys God. Man creates dinosaurs.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
65 million years ago, on Cretaceous [[Earth]], a &#039;&#039;Psittacosaurus&#039;&#039; is out hunting for food. The small dinosaur finds a fish and starts to feed, but stops as hundreds of alien ships enter Earth&#039;s atmosphere, piloted by the mysterious [[Creator (AOE)|&amp;quot;Creators&amp;quot;]]. The alien ships launch dozens of strange [[Seed]]s across the planet. As they detonate, they convert the landscape and the herds of panicking dinosaurs into a metallic substance, ending the Age of Dinosaurs. Millions of years later, while digging in the [[Arctic]], a team of geologists uncover a mysterious pair of metallized dinosaur skeletons - a discovery that attracts the attention of [[Darcy Tirrel]]...&lt;br /&gt;
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Five years after the invasion of [[Chicago]], tensions between humans and Cybertronians have risen dramatically. Although the Autobots are officially granted asylum on Earth, public opinion has turned against all Transformers. The government of the United States has terminated all human-Autobot joint programs and instated [[Cemetery Wind]], an elite [[CIA]] unit intended to flush out the handful of [[Decepticon]]s left on Earth. What the President doesn&#039;t know is that [[Harold Attinger]], the leader of the operation, is slaughtering all Transformers, regardless of faction. On one such mission, the team pinpoints [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] hiding within an abandoned boat. He immediately tries to flee, but is crippled and brought down by their weapons. The team leader, [[James Savoy]], mockingly asks why Ratchet ran if he&#039;s not their enemy, and Ratchet replays a transmission he received from [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], ordering all Autobots to hide from humans. However, Savoy dismisses his pleas as his sister was killed in Chicago. A Transformer bounty hunter, [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]], who has actually been helping Cemetery Wind hunt the Autobots, emerges from the nearby swamp and attacks Ratchet, further damaging him. Walking past his human allies, Lockdown demands to know [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]&#039;s whereabouts. When Ratchet refuses, Lockdown brutally kills him by ripping out his spark.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AOE Ratchet dying.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;Condors. Condors are on the verge of extinction...&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In Texas, struggling inventor [[Cade Yeager]] and his friend/employee [[Lucas Flannery]] meet at an old theater, looking for salvage. He finds an old truck, and upon inspection it seems to be full of artillery shells. He buys the truck along with the other theater equipment and puts it in his garage.[[Tessa Yeager|Tessa]], Cade&#039;s daughter, observes this while video-chatting with her boyfriend and criticizes her dad for buying the heap of junk. While attempting to salvage the truck&#039;s engine to sell, Cade realizes it&#039;s actually a badly-damaged Transformer. After calling Lucas and Tessa, he connects jumper cables to its engine, only for it to begin replaying the distress call Ratchet had received earlier. Lucas and Tessa advocate calling the government, claiming that there is a huge reward for Transformers. Cade convinces them not to call the authorities until he can spend more time working on the truck, as he may be able to stumble on a technological breakthrough if he can figure out how the Transformers work. When Cade removes a live missile from the truck&#039;s &amp;quot;power core,&amp;quot; it transforms into a heavily injured Optimus Prime, who roars at them to stay back while he swings his weapon around the barn. Cade, Lucas, and Tessa ask why Optimus is so badly damaged, to which he replies that the Autobots are being hunted and he must help them. Cade offers to repair him, and sends Lucas to buy the parts that will enable him to fix Optimus. Cade and Optimus begin to bond as the repairs begin.  &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AOE-injuredoptimus.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;Should we chance moving him?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In the Arctic, Attinger arrives via helicopter at [[Knight Ship|Lockdown&#039;s ship]] and demands to know why Optimus Prime escaped him in [[Mexico]]. Lockdown derisively tells Attinger that Optimus Prime would not have escaped were it not for Cemetery Wind&#039;s interference, stressing that he does not care about Attinger or his goals and wishes only to capture Optimus Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
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Shortly after returning to [[Washington, D.C.]], Attinger receives a tip that Optimus Prime has been located in Texas and sends Savoy and Cemetery Wind to apprehend him. The agents swarm the barn, but there is no trace of Prime inside. When Savoy threatens Tessa to force Cade to tell him of Prime&#039;s whereabouts, the Autobot leader explodes out of the barn&#039;s basement in which he was hiding. He escapes after a brief skirmish that destroys the Yeager residence, with both Cemetery Wind and Lockdown in pursuit. As Cade catches one of Cemetery Wind&#039;s mini drones, a white rally car zooms over the adjacent fields and picks up the Yeagers and Lucas. The driver turns out to be [[Shane Dyson|Shane]], a rally car racer who is also Tessa&#039;s boyfriend. A group of Cemetery Wind vehicles begins chasing them.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Optimus shooting humans AOE.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;You think they&#039;ll have that on the tour?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Both the rally car and Optimus Prime are chased into an abandoned factory, where Optimus Prime fights off Lockdown. Shane puts his driving skills to good use and pulls a series of tight maneuvers that result in the Cemetery Wind cars crashing, destroys his car in the process. Optimus Prime, who has caught Lockdown in a crane cable, transforms and tells the humans to pile into him and escape. Lockdown throws a grenade at the humans as they run towards Optimus Prime; though Shane and the Yeagers escape, Lucas is caught in the blast and killed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Arriving at an abandoned gas station, Optimus orders the humans out and drives off to ensure that they have not been followed. Cade confronts Tessa and Shane about their relationship but Tessa gets angry at Cade for putting them all in danger. The next day, Optimus and the humans set off towards Monument Valley. Prime [[trans-scan|scans]] a passing truck, sheds his layer of rust and takes on a new form with his old paint scheme. They arrive in Monument Valley where they meet the other surviving Autobots in the form of [[Crosshairs (AOE)|Crosshairs]], [[Hound (Movie)|Hound]], [[Drift (ROTF)|Drift]], and their de facto leader [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. Crosshairs and Hound start threatening the humans for having their species betray them but Optimus convinces them that they have risked their lives to save his. The Humans notice that there are clear tensions between the Autobots. Cade reveals footage of the attack on Ratchet and [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot&#039;s]] demise using the stolen aerial drone and Prime declares that he will kill the one responsible for hunting down the Autobots.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Autobots unite monument valley AOE.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;Dr. Grant, my dear Dr. Sattler... Welcome to [[Jurassic Park]].&amp;quot; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Inspection of the drone leads them to a company named [[Kinetic Solutions Incorporated|KSI]], located in a rebuilt Chicago. It is run by [[Joshua Joyce]], who is working with [[Su Yueming]] and Attinger to create artificial Transformers to eventually be used in the military. Using the remains of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]], [[Starscream (Movie)|the]] [[Barricade (Movie)|countless]] [[Shockwave (Movie)|Decepticons]] from the Chicago battle and the hunted Autobots, they have synthesized the metal that the Transformers are made of, calling it [[Transformium]]. When given commands through a computer, Transformium can be changed into various shapes or objects. Although a drone called [[Stinger (AOE)|Stinger]] (designed after Bumblebee) is active, Joshua&#039;s major project is a bigger, stronger drone called [[Galvatron (AOE)|Galvatron]]. However, his attempts have not been successful; the drone keeps resembling Megatron instead of the friendlier image of Optimus Prime. Bumblebee builds Cade and Shane faux-ID badges which the duo use to infiltrate KSI. Cade goes further in and projects imagery of Ratchet&#039;s severed head being melted down as well as the injured and enslaved [[Brains]], which sends Prime into a rage. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Joshua Joyce Transformium Experiment AOE.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;God help us, we&#039;re in the hands of engineers.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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However, Cade is caught when his ID badge is found to have been scanned twice (by him and its original owner). He is taken to the upper floors and confronted by Attinger, who claims that what he has witnessed is in the name of world peace. He also asks him about the whereabouts of Optimus Prime but Cade maintains his silence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Furious over how the humans have mutilated their comrades, Optimus orders an attack on KSI. Bumblebee, carried by Drift in copter mode, rescues Cade. The others trash the lab, free Brains, and confront Joshua, only for him to openly declare that what is being done is being done to prevent more Transformer-caused damage and that the humans &amp;quot;don&#039;t need&amp;quot; the Autobots. Disheartened, Prime orders a retreat. &lt;br /&gt;
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As the Autobots exit the factory and leave, Attinger catches up with Joshua and claims that the Autobots are terrorists for attacking the facility. He coerces Joyce to use the two functional drones to take down the Autobots. Galvatron and Stinger activate and pursue their quarry across a highway, with Galvatron doing more damage than his KSI handlers intend. Bumblebee fires upon Galvatron but is surprised to see him simply disintegrate and reintegrate again. Galvatron attacks Prime. As they battle, Optimus declares that the artificial creation has no soul, to which it retorts &amp;quot;That is why I have no FEAR!&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:AOEGalvatron.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;Kids! You want to have one of those?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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As Tessa scrambles for cover in a nearby vehicle, Prime is suddenly shot from the back and falls-Lockdown has arrived, along with his ship! Lockdown gloats to his prisoner, claiming that Optimus was built, not born, and now the Creators want him returned in one piece. The bounty hunter orders a net dropped over Optimus and hoists both the Autobot leader and Tessa&#039;s hiding place into his ship. Cade desperately clings to the net, but his strength gives out and he falls to the fields below. As the spaceship departs, Cade and Shane vow to get Tessa back. &lt;br /&gt;
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Lockdown throws Prime in a cage and orders his lackeys to dispose of Tessa. Prime takes note of several other aliens in similar cages, including [[Dinobot (AOE)|other Cybertronian warriors]]. He also discovers the original purpose of the mercenary ship: it was originally used by a group of legendary Knights (presumably including Prime himself) but now acts as Lockdown&#039;s flying prison. Lockdown&#039;s ship hovers over Chicago, triggering panic in the streets, but Attinger manages to talk down the authorities and send Savoy to rendezvous with Lockdown. As payment for Prime&#039;s capture, Lockdown gives him a Seed. &lt;br /&gt;
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Cade, Shane, and the other Autobots get aboard the ship as it flies low over a bridge. While being pursued by Lockdown&#039;s henchmen, the two humans find a strange Knight armory, from which Cade takes a sword that opens up to form a gun. While Shane and Cade rescue Tessa, Crosshairs deploys the ship&#039;s mooring cables, which fire into the Willis Tower and preventing the ship from breaking atmosphere. The humans begin to clamber down the cables to safety, but they are pursued by a pack of [[Steeljaw (AOE)|Steeljaw]]s. Bumblebee manages to save the trio. The other Autobots locate Optimus, who reveals that the section of the ship they are on can separate from the main body. Crosshairs uses a gunship to pick up Bumblebee and the humans, then leads them on a dogfight through Chicago&#039;s streets, destroying some of Lockdown&#039;s mercenaries.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Prime gets shotAOE.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;It could have been worse, John. A lot worse.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Back at KSI, it is decided that all equipment is to be moved to the Beijing facility to continue operations. Joshua is also none too pleased about the previous field test of Galvatron; not only was it a loss on several fronts, but the drone also &#039;&#039;spoke&#039;&#039;, which was something it was &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; programmed to do!&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots land their new ship at an abandoned train yard. Optimus claims that he sensed Megatron&#039;s presence during his fight with Galvatron. Brains explains Galvatron&#039;s true nature: while he decoded dead Transformer brains, he learned that Megatron&#039;s mind had survived and planned to transfer itself to Galvatron&#039;s body, explaining Galvatron&#039;s sinister appearance. The tiny bot further mentions how Galvatron used his knowledge to build Stinger and the other drones, with plans to make them into his personal army. As Tessa tells the group about the Seed she saw, Optimus and Hound explain that the Creators used Seeds to convert organic material into metal, then harvested the resulting Transformium for their own purposes.  Cade makes a call to Joyce and relays the newfound data about Galvatron. Knowing that Joyce is also an inventor with a heart, he pleads with Joyce to shut down Galvatron before things escalate. Although Joyce puts up an unconvinced façade, he demands increased security around Galvatron after hanging up.&lt;br /&gt;
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As police cars surround the train yard, the Autobots board their shuttle again and take to the air. Optimus says that though the Autobots will travel to Hong Kong and get the Seed back, they will leave Earth afterwards; they are done protecting humanity. Cade disagrees but Prime is non-responsive. They later debate the matter, with Cade attempting to reignite Prime&#039;s faith in humanity. &lt;br /&gt;
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In deep space, Lockdown finally discovers the absence of the smaller ship. He grumbles about Optimus Prime taking his trophy case and how the Prime will feel his wrath while he reverses course. Joyce meets with Attinger and Savoy and receives the Seed. Joyce intends to detonate it in a region of the [[Gobi Desert]], which will generate enough Transformium to last a century. Attinger is eager to expedite production but grows incensed when Joshua disagrees and says that they should go slower, quite obviously moved by Cade&#039;s call. Meanwhile, Galvatron activates &#039;&#039;himself&#039;&#039; and starts to infect the legion of over fifty other KSI Transformers. When the alarm rings regarding Galvatron&#039;s escape, Joyce has Attinger and Savoy evacuated from the building and gets in a car with Su, an associate named Darcy, and the Seed. They decide to try to hide the Seed in [[Hong Kong]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Being hunted by Attinger and Savoy, Joyce seeks refuge on a rooftop when the Autobot-piloted ship arrives and attempts to pick him and the Seed up. However, Galvatron and his drones ramy arrive and shoot down the airborne vessel, causing Bumblebee, Hound, and the Yeagers to spill out while the others (Prime, Crosshairs, Drift, and the captured Knights) to careen away into the Wulong Valley. Savoy finds the Yeagers and Joyce on the rooftop and open fires on them but Cade leads him away from the others. The two jump across rooftops, eventually crashing into a house and getting into a fist fight which ends with Savoy falling from a window to his death.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hound and Bumblebee attempt to escort the humans and the Seed out of the city, but are cut short when Joshua points out that the KSI-built Transformers were specifically built to destroy any Autobots or Decepticons left on Earth. This prompts Prime to enter the crashed ship and activate the armory as well as release the other captives within the ship. As Hound and Bumblebee hold the line and protect the humans, Optimus tries to convince the Legendary Warriors to fight alongside them. Their [[Grimlock (AOE)|apparent leader]] violently declines at first, fighting the Prime in both his massive robot mode and his Tyrannosaurus mode. Optimus quickly defeats him, saying that he and the other warriors will protect his family or die, then mounts the metal dinosaur. The Autobots mount their Dinobots and charge over the mountains into Hong Kong.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Dinobots ready for battle AOE.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;T. rex&#039;&#039; doesn&#039;t want to be fed. He wants to &#039;&#039;hunt&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, as Hound and Bumblebee are starting to be overwhelmed by Galvatron&#039;s drone forces, Optimus and his fellow Autobots storm into the city, slamming, crushing, stomping, and chomping all nearby enemies. Galvatron retreats as the Autobots and Dinobots decimate his forces. With this battle over, Optimus confronts Joshua for his actions and gives the order to defend the humans and escort them, and the Seed, away from the city. On the way, a homing beacon within the Seed activates, allowing Lockdown to track the Autobots down. He activates a massive magnet, wreaking havoc on Hong Kong. Everything metal from kitchenware to massive ships are picked up by the magnet, including the Autobots and Dinobots. After narrowly avoiding the magnet, the Yeagers are momentarily separated from the Autobots. Optimus shoots at the magnet, destroying it and releasing the Transformers from its influence. The ship retreats to a nearby factory, with Optimus hot on its trail. Cade tells his daughter to stay with Shane and the Autobots, as he wishes to fight alongside Optimus against Lockdown. As Optimus Prime and Lockdown battle one-on-one, Attinger corners Yeager with a pistol, accusing him of choosing aliens over his own race, but he is quickly shot and killed by Optimus. &lt;br /&gt;
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Because of Optimus&#039;s choice to save Cade before defending himself, Lockdown gains the upper hand, impaling Optimus through the chest with his own sword and pinning him to a concrete pillar. Meanwhile, Tessa convinces Bumblebee to turn around and the three join in fighting Lockdown, allowing Shane to use a tow truck to unpin Prime. Just as Lockdown is about to kill Cade, Optimus jumps up and slices the bounty hunter in half. Activating one of Lockdown&#039;s grenades, Prime tells the humans to hold on and uses rocket boosters to escape while the grenade destroys the last of the KSI drones. Galvatron has survived and retreated to the outskirts of the city; watching Prime blast off, he tells Optimus to beware, for he is reborn...&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:AOE-DefendThisFamily.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|&amp;quot;I don&#039;t know. I guess... I guess we&#039;ll just have to evolve too.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots, Dinobots, and their human allies all regroup on the waterfront. Cade and Tessa happily reconcile and Cade finally accepts Shane. Joshua nobly says he will help them with their destroyed home. Prime declares the Dinobots are now free as they depart for parts unknown. With the bounty on his head placing the entire Earth in danger, Prime blasts off into space with the Seed to confront the Creators and discover the mystery behind his own origins, but not before ordering the Autobots to protect the Yeager family. As he leaves Earth&#039;s atmosphere, Optimus Prime sends a message to his Creators to leave planet Earth alone, because he&#039;s coming for them.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Lockdown...?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Autobots, Decepticons, like little children, always fighting; making a mess out of the universe, then &#039;&#039;I&#039;ve&#039;&#039; got to clean it up! There is one way you survive. Tell me where he&#039;s hiding. Where is Optimus Prime?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Lockdown rips out Ratchet&#039;s spark)&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Never is here.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Ratchet&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s final moments before &#039;&#039;&#039;Lockdown&#039;&#039;&#039; kills him.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;In this planet we have a saying: &#039;&#039;The enemy of my enemy is my friend&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I also have a saying: &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;I don&#039;t care&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Harold Attinger&#039;&#039;&#039; discusses with &#039;&#039;&#039;Lockdown&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Every galaxy I&#039;ve traveled, all you species are the same. You all think you&#039;re the center of the universe. You have no idea...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Lockdown&#039;&#039;&#039; never truly appreciated one of his clients.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Human beings. Bunch of backstabbing weasels!&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Hound, find your inner compass. &#039;&#039;Loyalty is but a flower in the winds of fear and temptation.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;What the hell are you saying?!?&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;It&#039;s a haiku.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Cut the crap before I drop a grenade down your throat!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Try it, you&#039;ll be dead!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Oh, please pull it. Please do it.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Hound&#039;&#039;&#039; doesn&#039;t appreciate &#039;&#039;&#039;Drift&#039;s&#039;&#039;&#039; haikus.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;With your fate unknown, Bumblebee has held command, despite his complete and total lack of anything resembling warrior discipline. He&#039;s like a child.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;This child is about to &#039;&#039;kick your ass!&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Drift&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Bumblebee&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Autobots, I have sworn never to kill humans...&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Big mistake.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;...but when I find out who&#039;s behind this...he&#039;s going to &#039;&#039;die&#039;&#039;.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Hoo-ah!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;s&#039;&#039;&#039; rage is fueled by &#039;&#039;&#039;Hound&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Destroy the lab! Destroy it all!&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(The Autobots lay waste to the KSI research facility)&#039;&#039; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Hey, you! Stop! That&#039;s company property!&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;They&#039;re not &#039;&#039;your&#039;&#039; property! &#039;&#039;They were my friends.&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; duly informs &#039;&#039;&#039;Joshua Joyce&#039;&#039;&#039; that Transformers aren&#039;t just machines.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;You have no soul!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;That is why I have no &#039;&#039;fear&#039;&#039;!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is shocked to find &#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron&#039;&#039;&#039; isn&#039;t as lifeless as he thought.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;We&#039;re behind enemy lines now. Lockdown&#039;s ship has booby traps! Eyes open.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Beware of his bone-grinders, brain-blinders, flesh-stealers, chromosomal-inverters, catatonic slugs, black hole trapdoors and of course, radiation.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Hound&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Crosshairs&#039;&#039;&#039; warn the humans of the perils held within Lockdown&#039;s ship. &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I was expecting a [[Grimlock_(G1)/toys#Alternators.2FBinaltech|giant car!]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Drift&#039;&#039;&#039; witnessing Grimlock transform into a dinosaur.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Autobots, we&#039;re going to prove who we are, and &#039;&#039;why we&#039;re here&#039;&#039;!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; rallies his troops with his characteristic passion and charisma.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Ugh, you just wanna die for the guy. &#039;&#039;That&#039;s&#039;&#039; leadership. Or brainwashing, or something.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;No, that&#039;s Optimus Prime.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Crosshairs&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Drift&#039;&#039;&#039;, remarking on their [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|leader]]/[[Dinobot (AOE)|Giant Robot Dinosaur]] tamer.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I&#039;m like a fat ballerina who takes scalps and slits throats!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Hound&#039;&#039;&#039; takes another five levels in badass and ballerina class. &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;How do you say &#039;Get the f&amp;amp;%# out of the way&#039; in Chinese?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Joshua&#039;&#039;&#039; has some issues with the language barrier.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I hate cheap knockoffs.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Bumblebee&#039;&#039;&#039; dismissing all [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|clones]] of him as &amp;quot;cheap&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;We shall meet again, Prime, for I am reborn.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Galvatron&#039;&#039;&#039; retreats to fight another day.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There are mysteries to the universe we were never meant to solve, but who we are and why we are here are not among them. Those answers we carry inside. I am Optimus Prime, and this message is to my Creators. Leave planet Earth alone. &#039;Cause I&#039;m coming...for you.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s closing narration.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Main cast==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters|&lt;br /&gt;
h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hound (Movie)|Hound]] ([[John Goodman]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Drift (ROTF)|Drift]] ([[Ken Watanabe]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] ([[Robert Foxworth]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Crosshairs (AOE)|Crosshairs]] ([[John DiMaggio]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brains]] ([[Reno Wilson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dinobot (AOE)|Dinobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Grimlock (AOE)|Grimlock]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Scorn (AOE)|Scorn]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Slug (AOE)|Slug]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Strafe (AOE)|Strafe]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]]&#039;s head&lt;br /&gt;
|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Galvatron (AOE)|Galvatron]] ([[Frank Welker]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]&#039;s head&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stinger (AOE)|Stinger]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Junkheap (AOE)|Junkheap]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Trax (AOE)|Traxes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;[[Two Head]]s&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;[[KSI Boss]]es&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[McLaren Decepticon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aston Martin Decepticon]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Insecticon (Movie)|Insecticons]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] (video footage)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Protoform]]s (video footage)&lt;br /&gt;
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|h3=[[Human]]s|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cade Yeager]] ([[Mark Wahlberg]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tessa Yeager]] ([[Nicola Peltz]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shane Dyson]] ([[Jack Reynor]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Joshua Joyce]] ([[Stanley Tucci]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Harold Attinger]] ([[Kelsey Grammer]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[James Savoy]] ([[Titus Welliver]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lucas Flannery]] ([[T. J. Miller]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Darcy Tirrel]] ([[Sophia Myles]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Su Yueming]] ([[Li Bingbing]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gill Wembley]] ([[James Bachman]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chief of Staff]] ([[Thomas Lennon]])&lt;br /&gt;
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|h4=Others|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Lockdown&#039;s crew&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] ([[Mark Ryan]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mercenary|Mercenaries]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Steeljaw (AOE)|Steeljaws]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stupid Drone]]s&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Kinetic Solutions Incorporated|KSI]] prototypes&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Oreo Transformer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|nonumbering=true&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Errors==&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:DeceasedTransformersAOE.jpg‎|thumb|upright=1.6|Your attention, please. Will the &#039;&#039;real&#039;&#039; Optimus Prime please stand up?]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AOECrosshairsDriftWeirdEdit.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|What just happened? No, seriously. Is there some kind of timey-wimey thing going on?]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AOE savoy eyegouge.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|&amp;quot;An eye for an eye makes the whole world-OH MY GOD!!!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] is seen on the cards Attinger pulls out early in the film, listed as deceased and having been last seen in Chicago. However, Ironhide was killed by Sentinel Prime in Washington, D.C., midway through &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039;, and long before the final battle in Chicago.&lt;br /&gt;
*Scenes from the Decepticons&#039; invasion of Chicago in &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039; are shown as archival footage presented by Attinger. While it is conceivable some lucky people with cameras recorded the initial attack and managed to survive and publish their footage, it&#039;s highly unlikely people would&#039;ve been able to get close-up video footage of the NEST team taking down [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and the other Decepticons.&lt;br /&gt;
*A Cemetery Wind vehicle smashes into the side of Shane&#039;s car during the chase through the cornfield, but the car doesn&#039;t show any damage to that side in subsequent shots.&lt;br /&gt;
*Tessa and Shane&#039;s reliance on Romeo and Juliet laws is unnecessary, since the age of consent in Texas is 17.&lt;br /&gt;
*During the &#039;Autobots reunite&#039; sequence, Drift starts out in car mode on a road with Bumblebee and Crosshairs, before suddenly appearing atop a rock formation in robot mode and transforming to helicopter mode to meet up with Optimus Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Crosshairs and Drift are talking on board Lockdown&#039;s ship shortly after boarding it, a &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; bizarre edit occurs in the middle of Drift&#039;s line &amp;quot;Better hurry, because dark matter drives are preparing to take off&amp;quot;. The camera angle is now slightly different than before, but it&#039;s not a switch between a long shot and a close-up or a complete change of perspective. Oddly, Drift is still seen from the almost the &#039;&#039;exact same angle&#039;&#039; as before the edit, but even though his and Crosshairs&#039;s bodies were at an almost 90 degree angle before the edit, they&#039;re now suddenly almost standing in parallel to each other, with Crosshairs&#039; head turned towards Drift. In addition, a flame that appeared in front of Drift just before the edit is suddenly gone.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Shane shouts &amp;quot;I surrender!&amp;quot; and drops his &amp;quot;gun-sword&amp;quot;, the hilt is facing to the right, but after a close-up showed it landing on the ground and firing a shot, the hilt is suddenly facing to the &#039;&#039;left&#039;&#039; in the subsequent long shot when it fires more shots. &lt;br /&gt;
*When Joshua reunites with the rest of the group in Hong Kong, Darcy tells him she&#039;ll do a diversion, and to get the Seed somewhere safe. Yet, no diversion of any kind happens.&lt;br /&gt;
*As Cade and Savoy grapple in the apartment, Cade jams his thumb deep into Savoy&#039;s eye socket (see right), with accompanying &amp;quot;squlech&amp;quot; sound effect, and appropriate reaction from Savoy in the form of a long howl of pain through gritted teeth and a string of drool flowing uncontrolled from his mouth. But as soon as the two separate, Savoy&#039;s eye is absolutely fine, with no indication anything is supposed to have happened to it.&lt;br /&gt;
*While Lockdown is pulling up parts of the city, Shane backs the car into a building which is two stories high at most, but appears much larger on the inside.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Technical/animation errors===&lt;br /&gt;
*The shot right before the close-up of the cyberformed dinosaurs has no cyberformed dinosaurs at all, despite having all the excavation vehicles in the same positions as the next scene.&lt;br /&gt;
* Arcee is seen on Attinger&#039;s cards misspelled as &amp;quot;Acree&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*As Cemetery Wind are attacking Ratchet, a helicopter fires several missiles at him. Two of the missiles miss him, but do not detonate or cause any explosion of any kind to the structures immediately behind Ratchet, and are not even seen to hit them- they simply disappear. &lt;br /&gt;
*When Attinger takes over the operation to scramble Cemetery Wind after Optimus, and dismisses everyone in the room, he does so by saying &amp;quot;Ladies and gentlemen, this room is going dark. The exit is on your left.&amp;quot; All the people then get up and begin to exit to their &#039;&#039;right&#039;&#039;.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Scrambling Cemetery Wind seems to scramble the timeline.  From the deployment of Cemetery Wind to Lucas&#039;s death, the time of day is in limbo.  For example, Optimus escapes from the Yeager property at sunset, joining the pursuit that takes place in early afternoon, not to mention that Cemetery Wind arrives at the Yeagers&#039; home town at what appears to be dawn. In some instances, repeated changes between shots correspond with changes between different times of day, as different positions of the sun result in very very obviously different lighting conditions.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Lockdown transforms to prepare for the attack on Optimus, one can clearly see a faux-part Lamborghini logo pop out from inside the car, while the actual logo disappears.&lt;br /&gt;
*In the shot of Shane&#039;s car pulling up outside of the Yeager farm after Cemetery Wind has stormed in, nobody is seen inside the vehicle.&lt;br /&gt;
*During the scene where Cade is pretending to be a truck driver with Optimus still in his flat-nose truck form, he has a cap and white plaid shirt on. After Optimus scans into his newer form, Cade&#039;s back to wearing his leather jacket.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Shane&#039;s car gets sideswiped in the cornfield, the back left window is shattered.  A couple scenes later, the window is just rolled down. &lt;br /&gt;
*When Shane&#039;s car breaks into a building, the woman sitting right in the middle of the room is clearly waiting on the glass-breaking noise to start running.&lt;br /&gt;
*After Lucas&#039; death, there is nothing really stopping Lockdown or Cemetery Wind from continuing to chase Optimus. Lockdown is much faster and could easily catch up to Optimus whilst Cemetery Wind could chase in their remaining vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Optimus transforms to and from his Marmon 97 alternate mode, the windows and grille that make up his chest visibly change size and shape.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Optimus transforms out of his flat-nosed truck mode and punches the ground, Tessa and Shane are standing next to each other, as viewed from behind Optimus. When the view immediately switches to be facing Optimus, Cade is suddenly standing between the two.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Shane defends his relationship with Tessa by stating that the &#039;Romeo and Juliet laws&#039; &amp;quot;statute 2705-3&amp;quot; protect their relationship, yet the card he shows Cade reads &amp;quot;Statute 22.011&amp;quot;. This is also the number that appears in the English subtitles of the DVD, meaning that it was scripted as 22.011 and not 2705-3.&lt;br /&gt;
*The truck that Optimus scans, while still being from the Western Star manufacturer, is an older and different model than the one he transforms into.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Optimus is on his way to the reunion site, the human characters inside are sitting this way: Shane to the right, Tessa in the Middle and Cade to the left. However when Optimus gets to the reunion point Cade comes out of the truck using Shane&#039;s side door (right) instead of his (left). It is clear they (the director and his crew) were trying to get a &amp;quot;superhero&amp;quot; pose but it doesn&#039;t make sense.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Optimus arrived to the reunion site you can see the filming crew in the reflection of his front chrome parts.&lt;br /&gt;
*Hound&#039;s dialogue when he&#039;s bickering with Drift doesn&#039;t really match up to what we see. Drift pulls his swords on Hound, but the big guy goads him on to &amp;quot;pull it&amp;quot;, suggesting Drift was originally supposed to aim a firearm at him.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Uncolored Ratchet head prop.jpg‎|thumb|upright=1.67|Gray is the new green.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*When Joshua is in the lab showing Darcy Transformium, in two different shots, a gray, uncolored prop of Ratchet&#039;s head can be seen being worked on in the next room.&lt;br /&gt;
*As Cade&#039;s drone scans a KSI employee&#039;s name tag, it displays its location onscreen as around N 38°44&#039;55&amp;quot;, W115°28&#039;27&amp;quot;. These coordinates are for a [https://www.google.com/maps/place/38%C2%B044%2755.0%22N+115%C2%B028%2727.0%22W/@38.7486111,-115.4741667,3048m patch of desert in Nevada] rather than any place in Chicago.&lt;br /&gt;
*While first infiltrating KSI, in the showroom where Stinger is first viewed, Bumblebee is in car mode when Joshua walks in with Yueming. Bumblebee&#039;s engine audibly revs, yet Joshua doesn&#039;t notice that there&#039;s no one in the car to rev the engine.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Megatron Head at KSI.jpg|right|upright=1.4|thumb|Screw logic!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Megatron&#039;s severed head is in somewhat good shape for someone who got an axe stabbed on the top of his head. Furthermore, his head is more in line with its appearance in the first movie not &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Not to mention, after Joshua&#039;s group leaves and Bumblebee knocks Stinger down, there&#039;s no transformation noise right before Bumblebee returns to his altmode and the KSI executive walks in. Additionally, Bumblebee starts playing M.C. Hammer&#039;s &amp;quot;U Can&#039;t Touch This&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;&#039;when no one is in the car&#039;&#039;&#039; to turn the stereo on. Ostensibly it was for a comic moment, but it didn&#039;t raise anyone&#039;s suspicions that a car that wasn&#039;t typical of the ones being scanned, operating the engine and the stereo with no human inside, might be a disguised Cybertronian?&lt;br /&gt;
*After Bumblebee scans his new alternate mode, the camera pans over the car and Tessa and Shane are not inside. However when he&#039;s getting his new upgraded form you can see that they used stunt doubles for Shane and Tessa. That scene wasn&#039;t dangerous enough to require stunt doubles, was it?&lt;br /&gt;
*Some security guards in KSI fail to react to Crosshairs&#039;s shooting and shouting until a few seconds before the scene changes.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Galvatron first transforms and crashes into a truck, the way he is composed in the scene makes it look like he is simply floating above the wreckage, instead of being in the middle causing it.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Optimus transforms, Cade and Shane leap out of Optimus, while Tessa is trapped and rolls away. However, previous shots establish that the seating order in Optimus is Shane, Tessa, Cade. This means that Cade crawled over his daughter to escape(!), which is not quite logical or possible.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lockdown fires two missiles at Optimus Prime that, despite piercing his chest, don&#039;t manifest any kind of visible damage on his person, despite the previous shot showing Optimus&#039;s chest getting blown apart.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Lockdown is approaching Optimus after gunning him down, the driver&#039;s door of the Cadillac SRX he&#039;s resting on is shown to be open in two exterior shots, even though Tessa previously closed it after getting inside, and it&#039;s also shown closed in other (mostly interior) shots.&lt;br /&gt;
*When he loses his grip on the net holding Optimus and the car containing Tessa, Cade is shown falling toward the street, but he lands on the grass by the road.&lt;br /&gt;
*When the Autobots are on a bridge, before boarding Lockdown&#039;s ship, Crosshairs is clearly shown to be speaking but no dialogue is heard.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Tessa gets taken to the trash in Lockdown&#039;s ship, a green screen can be seen at the end of the corridor.&lt;br /&gt;
*While locking up Optimus, Lockdown&#039;s scar is on the left side of his face. While talking to Savoy upon delivering the seed, it&#039;s on the right side of his face; however, it switches back to the left side right before he walks off after bidding Earth farewell.&lt;br /&gt;
*While the human characters are climbing across the anchor cables to the high-rise building some of the Steeljaws begin to climb out after them. Cade tells his daughter not to look back and see them, but when we cut back to her, with a clear view of the cables behind her, the Steeljaws are gone. &lt;br /&gt;
*When Bumblebee jumps off Lockdown&#039;s ship to save the humans, he is followed by a Steeljaw.  In the following shot, the Steeljaw is gone.&lt;br /&gt;
*While explaining Megatron&#039;s plans to the Autobots, Brains rings a bell on a train. In the next shot, the bell is not moving.&lt;br /&gt;
*During the motorcycle chase, the CIA cars change. At first, Joshua and Su are trailed by a Cadillac and an Audi; in the middle of the chase, the Cadillac is replaced by another Audi. By the end of the chase, the Cadillac is back.&lt;br /&gt;
*In Hong Kong, when Cade, Joshua, Tessa, and Shane enter the elevator to run away from the rooftop, the elevator won&#039;t move and Cade says it&#039;s overloaded. But in the next scene, we see that the maximum number of people that the elevator can carry is nine, and it&#039;s very clear that the Seed doesn&#039;t weight as much as five people.&lt;br /&gt;
*When Grimlock transforms to his dino mode and charges at Optimus, there are no other Dinobots, nor the ship, to be seen in the background. However, after Optimus punches Grimlock and the shot changes, Dinobots are standing almost right next to him.&lt;br /&gt;
*Optimus somehow has enough strength to not only maintain his ground, but propel Grimlock through the air during his charge. Considering Grimlock&#039;s strength, velocity and weight, it is highly unlikely Optimus would win. &lt;br /&gt;
*Immediately after he transforms into his triceratops mode, Slug is shown to have a very visible Autobot logo on his dino-mode forehead, yet he just met Optimus and the other Autobots moments before. &lt;br /&gt;
*One of the air conditioning units kicked off the building exterior by Savoy falls away to reveal ... a solid wall, with no connection to an apartment&#039;s interior.&lt;br /&gt;
*During Hound&#039;s stand in Hong Kong, the pickup truck he uses as a shield sways left to right whilst his arm remains still.&lt;br /&gt;
*The damage Hound receives after being shot down, most noticeably the pipe on his left shoulder, is fixed in subsequent shots.&lt;br /&gt;
*Crosshairs is seen driving alongside Drift and Hound through the bridge to take the Seed away from the city ... right after we just saw him staying behind to hold the line with the Dinobots.&lt;br /&gt;
*During the final fight, Bumblebee decides to just leave midway. Considering the distance between the factory and the dock where they met, he must have left long before Optimus flew there.&lt;br /&gt;
*After Optimus takes off, the other Autobots are absent from the shot of the main cast watching Optimus fly off.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Geographic discontinuities===&lt;br /&gt;
*When Cade tries to use his card at an ATM, not only is the card issued from a Chinese bank, which wouldn&#039;t have any branches in north Texas, where the Yeagers live, the text on the ATM screen (behind the &#039;&#039;Access Denied&#039;&#039; warning) is in Chinese.&lt;br /&gt;
*Despite being from north Texas, Cade and Tessa have no Texas accents- not all Texans have noticeable accents of course, but Cade can be heard speaking with a slight &#039;&#039;Boston&#039;&#039; accent in the trainyard (&amp;quot;I&#039;m doing stuff out of my league here!&amp;quot;), which is likely due to his portrayer, Mark Wahlberg, being a Boston native. &lt;br /&gt;
*Despite the KSI pursuit scene taking place on a two lane highway, there are several scenes spliced in of the Transformers with supercar alt modes (like Stinger and Crosshairs) driving on what is obviously a racecourse (specifically the GM proving grounds in Milford, Michigan). This is apparent by the horizontal incline of the road in some of the shots that are also missing the markings that would normally be on a road, and a reaction shot for Stinger that shows a straight, one lane ninety degree turn.&lt;br /&gt;
*The entirety of the KSI pursuit scene switches between taking place between the left and right sides of the two-lane highway, despite being only supposed to take place on the right side. Furthermore, the shot showing stray missiles colliding with oncoming traffic takes place on a completely different highway, one with five lanes instead of three and a wooden fence on the side of the street as opposed to a guardrail. Moreover; the car crashing stunt for the bridge jump scene starts on the five lane highway, continues on the left side of the three lane highway, and then finishes on the &#039;&#039;right side&#039;&#039; of the three lane highway. Trouble finding shots, eh?&lt;br /&gt;
*All of the vehicles seen in Hong Kong are left-hand drive, rather than the right-hand drive you&#039;d expect in a location that drives on the left.&lt;br /&gt;
*Some scenes supposed to take place in Hong Kong depict a very distinctively American city with traffic lights suspended by wires above the street.&lt;br /&gt;
*Chicago&#039;s Willis Tower can be seen in the background of Hong Kong.&lt;br /&gt;
*The bridge out of the city shown in the film (Tsing Ma Bridge) is at least a half-hour drive from the battlefield in Central.&lt;br /&gt;
*Furthermore, despite Optimus&#039;s comment, there are no bridges connecting Hong Kong Island (where all the action allegedly takes place) to the mainland. The only way to get off Hong Kong Island (other than by boat or swimming) is via one of three tunnels, none of which are used, referenced or mentioned in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
*Speaking of bridges, Tsing Ma Bridge (the gray version of the Golden Gate Bridge) shown in the movie is effectively a dead end unless one is going to the airport or Disneyland, because it only leads to/from Lantau Island.&lt;br /&gt;
*The bridge where Grimlock &amp;quot;digs in&amp;quot; is an expressway bypass. Geographically defending it is pointless as there are multiple other routes (including at least one that is faster) to bypass the bridge and tunnel yet end up at the same place on the other side.&lt;br /&gt;
*In one of the fight scenes there is an overhead railway (the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_People_Mover Detroit People Mover]). There are no overhead railways on Hong Kong Island (yet) and the MTR (the subway train network) trains look nothing like the train used in the scenes, as they are a completely different shape and color.&lt;br /&gt;
*There are no &amp;quot;glass houses&amp;quot; on Hong Kong Island.&lt;br /&gt;
*There are no Chinese temple ruins on Hong Kong Island. The temples there are all intact and frequently used or preserved and don&#039;t have giant metal umbrellas &#039;&#039;at all&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
*The area where Optimus battles and &amp;quot;tames&amp;quot; Grimlock is in the Wushan Valley in Northern China which is over 1100 km from Hong Kong, yet is depicted as being in Pok Fu Lam on the South Western side of Hong Kong Island (which is a high rise residential area). Even flying it would take well over 2 hours to get from Wushan Valley to Hong Kong.&lt;br /&gt;
*It&#039;s not possible to drive a car from Beijing into Hong Kong, as the number plates would be invalid, and it would take over a day to drive that distance. Chinese vehicles coming into Hong Kong have to be from the Canton area (number plates are black) and have to be registered with Hong Kong plates, which means they must display both plates at all times one above the other. (In addition, the process to obtain permission for a car to have that is also lengthy and costly.)&lt;br /&gt;
*The blue SUV used by Cade and his companions is not a type of vehicle that exists in Hong Kong. In addition, its steering wheel is located on the left side, even though cars in Hong Kong have their steering wheels on the right side.&lt;br /&gt;
*Optimus Prime&#039;s Western Star alternate mode would be illegal to drive on Hong Kong roads, since it&#039;s is oversized. The Freightliner truck used for Galvatron is the maximum size/gauge allowed on Hong Kong roads. All scenes with Optimus driving in truck mode were filmed elsewhere, the Western Star truck was never brought to Hong Kong. Even his previous Peterbilt alternate mode would be illegal in Hong Kong.&lt;br /&gt;
*The area depicted as the final battle scene where Optimus and Lockdown face off was digitally added on the map of Hong Kong shown in the movie. It doesn&#039;t exist at all in real life, where it&#039;s actually a breakwater/typhoon shelter full of boats on Victora Harbour. In addition, the factories in Hong Kong (which are all located on Kowloon, because Hong Kong Island is purely a residential/business/shopping district) look nothing like the buildings used in the scene.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The cyberformed remains of a &#039;&#039;Tyrannosaurus&#039;&#039; and a &#039;&#039;Spinosaurus&#039;&#039; appear frozen together in the arctic at the beginning of the film, which is rather odd considering the two are found on different continents (North America and Africa respectively) and separated by around 35 million years of evolution.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:ExtinctionOfTheDinosaurus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|And another thing! How is that sauropod running!?!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*The opening scene of the movie shows a &#039;&#039;Psittaccosaurus&#039;&#039; (100-120 million years old), a generic hadrosaur that might be either an &#039;&#039;Edmontosaurus&#039;&#039; or a &#039;&#039;Shantungosaurus&#039;&#039; (65-70 million years old), and a brachiosaurid (100-157 million years old) all present during what is implied to be the K-Pg extinction event (64.5-65 million years old).&lt;br /&gt;
*The &#039;&#039;Psittaccosaurus&#039;&#039;, a well known herbivorous animal, is seen actively hunting and killing live prey. In a nod to paleontological accuracy, however, it is depicted with a row of quill-like feathers along its back, as many ceratopsian dinosaurs are believed to have had.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Dinobots show various exaggerations and ornamentations which go beyond the usual suspension of disbelief involved in... [[Dinobot (disambiguation)|giant metal dinosaurs]]. Grimlock sports curved, backwards pointing horns, enormous fangs and pronated hands. Slug has huge tail spikes and a set of nasty chin horns, though his tail spikes could be a mechanised representation of the bristle-like fibres that triceratops currently is thought to have had. Strafe is the biggest offender, with a pair of elongated tails and twin heads with teeth and incorrectly-shaped crests and grasping talons. Scorn probably gets off the easiest, being &#039;&#039;mostly&#039;&#039; correct, bar his extra spines and pronated hands. It&#039;s not his fault that a few months after the release of the movie, the morphology of &#039;&#039;Spinosaurus&#039;&#039; was completely revised, with a different spine shape and shorter legs. &lt;br /&gt;
* The Dinobots&#039; alternate modes are orders of magnitude larger than the real dinosaurs on which they&#039;re based. In an interesting twist, using Optimus as a proxy for the average human, all the Dinobots bar Strafe have been accurately scaled up. At 850 tonnes &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Grimlock stats&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/entertainment-weekly-reveals-new-details-on-transformers-4-age-of-extinction-new-grimlock-image-179675] summarised on TFW2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Grimlock is as large compared to Optimus as a real &#039;&#039;Tyrannosaurus&#039;&#039; would be next to a human.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Transformers references==&lt;br /&gt;
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* As usual, many of the new characters have roots in older portions of the mythos:&lt;br /&gt;
**  [[Drift (ROTF)|Drift]] is based on [[Drift (G1)|a Generation 1 character]] introduced in IDW&#039;s 2008 &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]&#039;&#039; series.&lt;br /&gt;
** Lockdown is derived from [[Lockdown (Animated)|a character in the 2008 &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; cartoon]] who had already jumped over to the G1 comics and, in toy form, to the movie universe. &lt;br /&gt;
** [[Hound (disambiguation)|Hound]] and [[Crosshairs (disambiguation)|Crosshairs]] both share names with previous characters; their personalities are new and unique, though Hound seems based on [[Bulkhead (Prime)|&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; Bulkhead]] in physique, coloration and personality.&lt;br /&gt;
** Galvatron being a new form for Megatron has been a thing for [[Galvatron (disambiguation)|basically forever]]. With Joyce&#039;s intentions of creating him as a counterpart to Optimus Prime, he also takes cues from [[Nemesis Prime (disambiguation)|Nemesis Prime]]; in particular the human-controlled &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]&#039;&#039; [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|character]].&lt;br /&gt;
** The Dinobots are the latest iteration of [[Dinobot (G1)|the powerhouse subfaction]] that first appeared in the early days of Generation 1. Their leader Grimlock is a direct analog of [[Grimlock (G1)|his Generation 1 counterpart]]; Strafe and Slug are based on Generation 1 [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] and [[Slag (G1)|Slag]], respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
* KSI creating a mindless drone army from recycled lifeless Cybertronian bodies isn&#039;t too far off from how [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] created the [[Vehicons]] in [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]].&lt;br /&gt;
* In the film&#039;s opening act, Optimus has adopted a cabover truck alternate mode akin to that of his [[Optimus Prime (G1)|G1 counterpart]]. His robot mode also draws some inspiration from his G1 design, such as the large grill on his chest.&lt;br /&gt;
* This is not the first time that Ratchet and Lockdown have faced off. &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] and [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] had [[The Thrill of the Hunt|a long-running feud]]. Within the movie universe, the two characters have been described as rivals on &#039;&#039;[[Hunt for the Decepticons]]&#039;&#039; toy [[packaging]] [[bio]]s, and faced off in &#039;&#039;[[Cyber Missions 3]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* The concept of the Transformers being built by another race first appeared in the third season of [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; cartoon]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Meanwhile, the concept of humans hunting down all Transformers on Earth following a successful but devastating massive battle hearkens back to plotlines from IDW&#039;s [[The Transformers (IDW)|2009-2011 ongoing series]].&lt;br /&gt;
* The (rather obvious) theme of humans (particularly evil government agencies) using captured Transformers as a source of technology has appeared numerous times in the mythos, going all the way back to the [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]] agency in the original Marvel Comics. [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|The &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; cartoon]] in particular featured the severed head of [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] being studied and reverse-engineered, while in IDW&#039;s ongoing G1 stories, [[Sunstreaker (G1)|a Transformer&#039;s severed head]] was used to help design man-made Transformers (in [[The Transformers: Maximum Dinobots|a Dinobot-focused series at that]].) More broad uses of the concept include the Dreamwave &#039;&#039;[[Prime Directive]]&#039;&#039; mini-series, Devils Due&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers: The Art of War|Art of War]]&#039;&#039; mini-series (&#039;&#039;again&#039;&#039; featuring the severed head of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]), the [[The Transformers (IDW)|IDW ongoing series]], [[All or Nothing!|Cobra&#039;s actions in the G2 comics]], [[MECH]] from the [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; cartoon]], and even in the movie universe itself, in IDW&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Alliance|Alliance]]&#039;&#039; mini-series that served as a prequel to the &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; film. The idea of the (seemingly) human-controlled Transformers eventually proving to be uncontrollable was also pioneered by some of these stories, most notably Dreamwave&#039;s aforementioned &#039;&#039;Prime Directive&#039;&#039; mini.&lt;br /&gt;
* A device that can &amp;quot;[[eco-structuring|cyberform]]&amp;quot; other planets previously appeared in several places in the mythos, including in the original &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; cartoon&#039;s [[Key to Vector Sigma (disambiguation)|Key to Vector Sigma]] two-parter and the aforementioned Dreamwave &#039;&#039;Prime Directive&#039;&#039; mini. In both cases, it was actually activated, unlike its movie counterpart.&lt;br /&gt;
* The idea of aliens and/or alien technology being found frozen in the arctic or Antarctic ice is a very common trope in fiction; in terms of Transformers, the first use of the trope was [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]] in the original cartoon&#039;s [[Fire in the Sky]]. A discovery specifically at the hands of &#039;&#039;humans&#039;&#039; was a plot point in the aforementioned Dreamwave &#039;&#039;Prime Directive&#039;&#039; mini, not to mention [[Transformers (film)|the discovery of]] [[Megatron (Movie)|N.B.E. 01]]. Or the [[Scraplet]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
* The ringtone on Gill Wembley&#039;s cell phone is a remixed version of the original G1 Transformers [[theme song]].&lt;br /&gt;
* As he hunts for Ratchet, Lockdown&#039;s head-up display shows characters in [[Cybertronian language|Ancient Autobot]], an alphabet originating in the Generation 1 episode &amp;quot;[[Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
* In the scene where Optimus scans a passing truck, the classic [[Transformation#The noise|transformation noise]] plays when the Autobot symbol emerges from his grill.&lt;br /&gt;
*During the Texas chase scene, Shane, Cade, and Tessa drive past a navy-blue Pontiac Solstice with a white stripe down the middle. The Pontiac Solstice was Jazz&#039;s alternate mode in the first film. Also, the car is a reversal of Jazz&#039;s 1980&#039;s color scheme, which was white with a navy blue stripe down the middle. Since the Pontiac Solstice was not being produced at the time of the movie&#039;s production, the car&#039;s presence is definitely a reference, although the color scheme might just be a coincidence.&lt;br /&gt;
*The scene where Galvatron goes active and breaks free in KSI&#039;s Chinese facility mirrors the scene in the 2007 &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie when Megatron breaks free inside [[Sector Seven]]&#039;s facility, down to a reuse of the line &amp;quot;I am Megatron&amp;quot;, only with the name changed to &amp;quot;Galvatron&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Real-life references==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Rainbow Dash Age of Extinction.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|&amp;quot;I found the magic!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*Among the objects KSI makes from Transformium in the film is a Rainbow Dash doll from [[My Little Pony|another popular Hasbro brand]].&lt;br /&gt;
*This marks the second time a Michael Bay film has begun with the extinction of the dinosaurs, the first being &#039;&#039;[[Armageddon]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other editions==&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;[[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Transformers: Age of Extinction]]&#039;&#039; magazine ([[Titan Books|Titan Comics]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Adaptations==&lt;br /&gt;
Unusually, no novel or comic adaptations of the film were released. The &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Annual 2015]]&#039;&#039; contained an extremely cut down prose summary of events.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Music==&lt;br /&gt;
==Score==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Theatrical posters==&lt;br /&gt;
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File:Transformers- Age of ExtinctionTeaserPoster.jpg|Something has survived...&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers- Age of ExtinctionOptimusPrimePoster.jpg|Will you follow me... for the fourth time?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction poster-IMAX.jpg|The Prime, the Grim, and the Marky.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction Cade poster.jpg|Cade, look out behind you! Ah, too late, Lockdown&#039;s ship got him.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction Shane poster.jpg|So the five minute scene about statutory rape was supposed to be funny?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction Tessa poster.jpg|She wants you to forget she was in &#039;&#039;[[Wikipedia: The Last Airbender (film)|The Last Airbender]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction Su poster.jpg|So the minor character gets a poster and two lengthy filler action scenes to herself?&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction Lockdown poster.jpg|&#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039;, come and spend your money here!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction Rules Have Changed.jpg|It&#039;s a scene not in the movie!&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction This Is Not War.jpg|This is not human extinction, it&#039;s just war.&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction Stand Together1.jpg|So we face extinction if we don&#039;t stand with you? Huh, that&#039;s kinda harsh...&lt;br /&gt;
File:Transformers Age of Extinction Stand Together2.jpg|&amp;quot;Now look down. Now look at me. I&#039;m on a dinosaur.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reception==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|&amp;quot;The few authentic inspirations to be found in the movie&#039;s hundred and sixty-five roiling minutes involve gigantic science-fiction contrivances.&amp;quot;|[http://www.newyorker.com/arts/reviews/film/transformers_age_of_extinction_bay The New Yorker&#039;s Richard Brody on Transformers 4: Age of Extinction], Richard Brody|[http://newyorker.com newyorker.com] [[2014]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Transformers: Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; was critically panned, and nearly universally condemned on the American front, receiving a rating of 18% positive critical reviews on RottenTomatoes.com, one percent lower than the final score for &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;. Common criticisms leveled against it included its relatively long run time of 2 hours and 45 minutes, the disproportionately small amount of screen time the Dinobots got in relation to their relatively large exposure in promotional materials for the film, an over-reliance on product placement, and the decision to set the final act in Hong Kong, which was perceived as a choice solely done to pander towards the Chinese audience for the film. However, the film received praise for its visual effects, action sequences, and the performances of some of the human actors, mainly Mark Wahlberg, Stanley Tucci, and Kelsey Grammer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_age_of_extinction/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Despite any criticisms, the film was the worldwide top-grossing film for 2014, earning over a billion dollars.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view2=worldwide&amp;amp;yr=2014 Box Office Mojo&#039;s 2014 Worldwide Grosses]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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It [[wikipedia:35th_Golden_Raspberry_Awards|won one Golden Raspberry Award]] for Worst Director ([[Michael Bay]]), was one of four movies contributing to [[Kelsey Grammer]]&#039;s Worst Supporting Actor win (along with &#039;&#039;{{w|The Expendables 3}}&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;{{w|Legends of Oz: Dorothy&#039;s Return}}&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;{{w|Think Like a Man Too}}&#039;&#039;), and was unsuccessfully nominated for Worst Picture; Worst Supporting Actress ([[Nicola Peltz]] as [[Tessa Yeager]]); Worst Screen Combo (&amp;quot;Any two robots, actors (or robotic actors)&amp;quot;); Worst Prequel, Remake, Rip-off or Sequel; and Worst Screenplay (&amp;quot;screenplay by [[Ehren Kruger]], based on Hasbro&#039;s Transformers action figures&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Production staff==&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; was written by [[Ehren Kruger]], who also wrote &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]&#039;&#039; and helped write &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 26, 2011, thirteen days before the official theatrical release of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]&#039;&#039;, actor [[Tyrese Gibson]] gave an interview to Movieweb, in which he claimed that [[Michael Bay]] would not return for a fourth &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; installment; instead, executive producer [[Steven Spielberg]] himself was allegedly interested in directing a sequel.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;tyresemovieweb&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://movieweb.com/exclusive-steven-spielberg-may-direct-transformers-4/ Movieweb interview with Tyrese Gibson], with several names missing from the text; the full excerpt in question is quoted [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/rumor-transformers-4-directed-by-steven-spielberg-172501/ here] on TFW2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ten days later, on June 26, 2011, still three days before the official theatrical release of &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039;, Michael Bay posted praise for actor [[Shia LaBeouf]] on his official forums, while at the same time expressing regret for leaving the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; franchise.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bayshialeaving&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?9502-Love-Shia-as-an-Actor Michael Bay&#039;s praise for Shia LaBeouf]] at the official Michael Bay forums.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Another two days later, on June 28, 2011, LaBeouf confirmed that &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039; would definitely be his last &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; film, as he didn&#039;t think there was &amp;quot;anywhere to take&amp;quot; his character of [[Sam Witwicky (Movie)|Sam Witwicky]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;endshia&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2011/06/28/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-shia-labeouf/ &amp;quot;&#039;Transformers: Dark Of The Moon&#039; Is The End For Shia LaBeouf&amp;quot;], MTV Movies Blog.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Eight months later, on February 13, 2012, producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] gave an interview during [[Toy Fair 2012]], in which he confirmed that a fourth film was scheduled for a release in the Summer of 2014, Michael Bay would direct it after all, and that the movie would be a &amp;quot;reboot&amp;quot;. He promptly clarified that it was actually a &amp;quot;hybrid&amp;quot;, an &amp;quot;evolution&amp;quot; of the franchise that would be in continuity with the previous films, citing 2012&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Wikipedia:The Amazing Spider-Man (2012 film)|The Amazing Spider-Man]]&#039;&#039; reboot of the &#039;&#039;[[Spider-Man]]&#039;&#039; film franchise as an example of what people should &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; expect from a fourth &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; film. Di Bonaventura also confirmed that no casting discussions had taken place yet at that point, since there was no set story yet. However, there would be &amp;quot;a lot of new cast&amp;quot;, and it was still uncertain at that point whether any of the previous cast members would return. The only characters that would &amp;quot;certainly&amp;quot; return wold be [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;lorenzointerview&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[&amp;quot;http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/733426/a-new-transformers-to-hit-theaters-in-summer-2014.jhtml &amp;quot;a new &#039;transformers&#039; to hit theaters in summer 2014&amp;quot;], interview with Lorenzo Di Bonaventura at MTV.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A day later, on February 14, 2012, Bay himself and [[Paramount Pictures]] officially announced that Bay had indeed signed a deal to make a fourth &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; film. The film&#039;s release date was stated alternatively as either June 27 or June 29, 2014.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bayfourthfilm1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-4-release-date-revealed-174395/ &amp;quot;Transformers 4 Release Date Revealed&amp;quot;] at TFW2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bayfourthfilm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-17028248 &amp;quot;Transformers director Michael Bay signs for fourth film&amp;quot;], BBC.co.uk.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; That same day, Bay also confirmed that he and Spielberg were working on a &amp;quot;whole new re imagining{{sic}} of &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;reimagining&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?10284-Transformers-4 Michael Bay confirming that &#039;&#039;Transformers 4&#039;&#039; would be a &amp;quot;reimaginging&amp;quot;] at the official Michael Bay forums.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Two days later, on February 16, 2012, actor [[Josh Duhamel]] expressed his doubts that he, Shia LaBeouf, [[Rosie Huntington-Whiteley]] or Tyrese Gibson would return for the fourth installment.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;noshiarosie&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://eonline.com/news/294791/josh-duhamel-not-coming-back-for-transformers-4-is-anyone &amp;quot;Josh Duhamel Not Coming Back for Transformers 4: Is Anyone?!&amp;quot;] at E! Online.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Four months later, on June 6, 2012, Michael Bay confirmed in an interview centered around &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: The Ride – 3D|Transformers: The Ride]]&#039;&#039; that the fourth film would feature &amp;quot;some redesigns of the robots and an entirely new cast&amp;quot;, and that it would be the last &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; film he would direct.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ride&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/transformers-the-ride-3d-even-impresses-disney-rivals/ &amp;quot;‘Transformers’ taking new shape with Universal ride and fourth film&amp;quot;], LA Times Hero Complex.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A few weeks later, on June 21, 2012, Bay confirmed that the fourth film would feature &amp;quot;different human actors&amp;quot;, but the film would not be strictly a &amp;quot;reboot&amp;quot;, but rather take the story &amp;quot;in a new direction&amp;quot;. While hinting that the story might venture into space for &amp;quot;a little bit&amp;quot;, he still wanted to keep it &amp;quot;grounded&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;starsspace&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/transformers-4-michael-bay-purges-stars-may-go-into-space/ &amp;quot;‘Transformers 4’: Michael Bay purges stars, may go into space&amp;quot;], LA Times Hero Complex.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TF4 Chinese Reality Show contestants.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|If &#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; teaches us anything, it&#039;s that more movies should be cast using reality shows.]]On September 21, 2012, Michael Bay confirmed the first &amp;quot;cast&amp;quot; member for the film in the broadest sense, namely the fact that voice actor [[Peter Cullen]] would be kept on as [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. He also confirmed that the film would &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; be a reboot, but would pick up the story from where &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039; had left off in [[Chicago]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;cullen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/21/michael-bay-transformers-4-pain-and-gain_n_1903523.html &amp;quot;Michael Bay, &#039;Transformers 4&#039; Director, On The Struggles Of &#039;Pain &amp;amp; Gain&#039;&amp;quot;], Huffington Post interview.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One and a half months later, on November 8, 2012, Bay confirmed [[Mark Wahlberg]] as the first human cast member&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;wahlberg&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://michaelbay.com/2012/11/08/michael-bay-re-teams-with-his-pain-gain-star-mark-wahlberg-for-transformers-4/ &amp;quot;Michael Bay Re-Teams With His &#039;Pain &amp;amp; Gain&#039; Star Mark Wahlberg for Transformers 4&amp;quot;], on Michael Bay&#039;s official site.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, after having referred to such claims as &amp;quot;just a rumor&amp;quot; a mere month earlier.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;baynowahlberg&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://michaelbay.com/2012/10/23/transformers-4-casting-rumor/ &amp;quot;Transformers 4 Casting Rumor&amp;quot;], on Michael Bay&#039;s official site.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On December 15, 2012, Wahlberg himself confirmed that filming would commence in May 2013.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;wahlbergmay&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://collider.com/ted-2-sequel-mark-wahlberg-transformers-4/218011/ &amp;quot;Mark Wahlberg Talks TED 2, TRANSFORMERS 4, and PAIN AND GAIN; Says TF Starts Shooting in May Followed By TED Sequel&amp;quot;], interview with Collider.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Another month later, on January 8, 2013, Irish American actor [[Jack Reynor]] was confirmed as the second human cast member.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;reynor&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jack-reynor-lands-starring-role-409850 &amp;quot;Jack Reynor Lands Starring Role in &#039;Transformers 4&#039;&amp;quot;] at Hollywood Reporter.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Nicola Peltz]] was confirmed on March 26, 2013&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;welcomepeltz&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://michaelbay.com/2013/03/26/welcome-nicola-peltz-to-transformers-4/ &amp;quot;Welcome Nicola Peltz to Transformers 4&amp;quot;], on Michael Bay&#039;s official site.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, followed by [[Stanley Tucci]] (confirmed to be an antagonist) on April 16, 2013.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;tucci&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.comingsoon.net/news/cinemaconnews.php?id=103034 &amp;quot;CinemaCon: Stanley Tucci Joins Transformers 4&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, [[Kelsey Grammer]] as a lead (human) villain named &amp;quot;Harold Attinger&amp;quot; on May 1, 2013&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;grammerattinger&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/kelsey-grammer-lands-lead-human-villain-in-transformers-sequel/ &amp;quot;Kelsey Grammer Lands Lead (Human) Villain In ‘Transformers’ Sequel&amp;quot;] at Deadline.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, [[Sophia Myles]] as a scientist on May 6, 2013&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mylesscientist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/sophia-myles-join-mark-wahlberg-michael-bays-transformers-4-exclusive-89661 &amp;quot;Sophia Myles to Join Mark Wahlberg in Michael Bay&#039;s &#039;Transformers 4&#039; (Exclusive)&amp;quot;] at TheWrap.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Chinese actress [[Li Bingbing]] in an at that point still unspecified role on May 20, 2013&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bingbing&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/chinas-li-bingbing-boards-transformers-525370 &amp;quot;China&#039;s Li Bingbing Boards &#039;Transformers 4&#039;&amp;quot;] at Hollywood Reporter&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and actor-comedian [[T. J. Miller]] as a mechanic and best friend to Wahlberg&#039;s character on May 28, 2013.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;miller&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/tj-miller-joins-transformers-4-559359 &amp;quot;T.J. Miller Joins &#039;Transformers 4&#039;&amp;quot;] at Hollywood Reporter.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Titus Welliver]] wasn&#039;t officially confirmed until July 25, 2013, after he had been spotted on set in Texas.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;welliver&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/transformers-4-adds-titus-welliver/ &amp;quot;‘Transformers 4′ Adds Titus Welliver&amp;quot;], Deadline.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the lead-up to the release of the movie, Welliver would stir up a minor controversy with an interview in which he stated that the film would be darker and &amp;quot;not a kid&#039;s movie&amp;quot;. Following a storm of online discussion regarding this statement, he issued a new statement to the effect that &#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; is in fact a kid&#039;s movie, and he meant to say it would expand the audience.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nerdist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.nerdist.com/2014/02/titus-welliver-talks-about-transformers-4-and-clark-greggs-s-h-i-e-l-d-comments/ Titus Welliver Talks About TRANSFORMERS 4 and Clark Gregg’s S.H.I.E.L.D. Comments], Nerdist.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A rather unusual addition to the cast were [[Byron Li]], [[Candice Zhao]], [[Austin Lin]] and [[Teresa Daley]], which won their part through participating in the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers 4 Chinese Actors Talent Search Reality Show]]&#039;&#039; on August 25, 2013.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;reality&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://beijing.china.org.cn/2013-08/28/content_29845758.htm &amp;quot;&#039;Transformers 4&#039; recruits 4 Chinese actors&amp;quot;], China.org.cn.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The remaining robot voice cast (barring Optimus Prime) wasn&#039;t officially revealed until May 8, 2014.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;voicecast&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://michaelbay.com/2014/05/08/john-goodman-and-ken-watanabe-join-the-autobot-voice-cast-in-michael-bays-transformers-age-of-extinction/ &amp;quot;John Goodman And Ken Watanabe Join The Autobot Voice Cast in Michael Bay’s ‘Transformers: Age Of Extinction’&amp;quot;] at the official Michael Bay website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Writing and production===&lt;br /&gt;
On March 20, 2013, the Michigan Film Office announced that the fourth film would return to [[Detroit]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;michigan&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.michiganfilmoffice.org/The-Film-Office/Press-Releases/Detail.aspx?id=11620 &amp;quot;Transformers Returning to Michigan, Approved for Film Incentive&amp;quot; at the Michigan Film Office website.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Principal photography began on May 28, 2013, at [[Wikipedia:Monument Valley|Monument Valley]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;monument&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://michaelbay.com/2013/05/28/transformers-4-starts-filming-in-monument-valley-navajo-tribal-park/ &amp;quot;Transformers 4 Starts Filming in Monument Valley Navajo Tribal Park&amp;quot;], on Michael Bay&#039;s official site.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Other shooting locations were the small towns of Lockhart, Taylor, Elgin and Pflugerville in Texas.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;texas&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.dallasnews.com/entertainment/movies/headlines/20130426-fourth-transformers-film-to-shoot-in-texas.ece &amp;quot;Fourth ‘Transformers’ film to shoot in Texas&amp;quot;] at Dallas Morning News.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Shooting in Michigan involved two historic passenger steamboats, the &#039;&#039;[[Wikipedia:SS_Columbia|SS Columbia]]&#039;&#039; and her sister ship, the &#039;&#039;[[Wikipedia:Ste. Claire (passenger steamboat)|SS Ste. Claire]]&#039;&#039;, which were docked in [[Wikipedia:River Rouge, Michigan|River Rouge]] awaiting restoration at the time being used as props.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;boblo&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/story/2013/07/26/wdr-boblo-boats-transformers-four.html &amp;quot;Historic Boblo boats land role in Transformers 4&amp;quot;], CBC News.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; While shooting in Detroit, Mark Wahlberg&#039;s children visited the set and were given small parts in the movie upon their father&#039;s request.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;wahlkids&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/07/30/mark-wahlbergs-kids-cast-in-transformers-4/ &amp;quot;Mark Wahlberg&#039;s Kids Cast In Transformers 4&amp;quot;], Comicbook.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:AOE Michael Bay Nicola Peltz on set.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Michael Bay uses his legendary charm to get the very best performance out of his actors.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Due to an increased focus of Hollywood studios trying to market its movies to the Chinese audience, parts of the movie were not only set in China, but actually filmed there. One of the shooting sites was Hong Kong. While there, the movie crew encountered the risks of shooting a movie in China firsthand when director Michael Bay was assaulted on the set by two locals demanding money; according to some sources, they were store owners that were not satisfied with the compensation they received for the inconvenience of having a movie filming nearby. Bay received minor injuries, but played the incident off on his blog. Both he and an official Paramount statement suggested that the assailants were under the influence of drugs.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;attack1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://deadline.com/2013/10/hong-kong-police-called-to-transformers-4-set-amid-alleged-extortion-attempt-report-613912/ &amp;quot;Extortion Attempt On ‘Transformers 4′ Set; Michael Bay Suffers Minor Injury: Report&amp;quot;], Deadline.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;attack2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-bay-attacked-transformers-4-649183 &amp;quot;Michael Bay Attacked on &#039;Transformers 4&#039; Set in Hong Kong&amp;quot;], Hollywood Reporter.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;attack3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-24566287 &amp;quot;Transformers director Michael Bay attacked in Hong Kong&amp;quot;], BBC.&amp;lt;/ref name=&amp;quot;attack4&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/michael-bay-attacked-on-transformers-hong-kong-film-shoot-1.2100953 &amp;quot;Michael Bay attacked on Transformers Hong Kong film shoot&amp;quot;], CBC News.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;attack5&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://michaelbay.com/2013/10/17/hong-kong-incident/ &amp;quot;Hong Kong Incident&amp;quot;] on Michael Bay&#039;s official Blog.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A second extortion attempt occured several days later, this time allegedly by several triad gang members. Although one of them was later arrested, no-one was injured this time around.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;extortion2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.businessinsider.com/michael-bay-transformers-4hong-kong-second-extortion-incident-2013-10?IR=T &amp;quot;More Trouble For &#039;Transformers 4&#039; In Hong Kong As Second Extortion Attempt Reported&amp;quot;], Business Insider.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;extortion3&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/25/world/asia/hong-kong-transformers-triad-extortion/ &amp;quot;Transformers versus the triads of Hong Kong: the sequel&amp;quot;], CNN.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Once again, Bay played down the extortion attempts in an interview, noting that most of the locals were apologetic over what took place, and that he wanted to film more projects in Hong Kong.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;eager&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1342084/hollywood-director-michael-bay-eager-shoot-hong-kong-again &amp;quot;Hollywood director Michael Bay eager to shoot in Hong Kong again&amp;quot;], &#039;&#039;South China Morning Post&#039;&#039;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:AOEOptimusRidingGrimlock.jpg|thumb|upright=1.9|left|&amp;quot;Get me closer! I want to hit them with my sword!&amp;quot;]]Late script changes resulted in Bay and his crew returning to the Chinese city of [[Wikipedia:Chongqing|Chongqing]] for a week reshooting a scene in January of 2014.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;reshoot&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.ecns.cn/2014/01-23/98337.shtml &amp;quot;&#039;Transformers 4&#039; back to China for additional shots&amp;quot;], China News Service (Ecns.cn).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Some of [[Industrial Light &amp;amp; Magic|ILM]]&#039;s post-production effects were done at a newly opened Lucasfilm facility in Singapore.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ilmsg&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.straitstimes.com/breaking-news/lifestyle/story/lucasfilm-singapore-work-new-avengers-and-transformers-movies-20140116 &amp;quot;Lucasfilm Singapore to work on new Avengers and Transformers movies&amp;quot;], The Straits Times.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Sponsors and partners ===&lt;br /&gt;
==== General Motors and other car manufacturers ====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:AOE Optimus Prime truck.jpg|thumb|upright=1.34|When having one&#039;s midlife crisis, it&#039;s not unusual to get a souped-up alternate mode.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; continues the collaboration with General Motors. Earlier in the film, Bumblebee chooses a customized 1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS as his disguise when hiding from [[Cemetery Wind]], whereas later on, he upgrades to the newest model, a 2014 Camaro concept car. (The production crew was actually accused of ripping off a one-of-a-kind custom for the 1967 version.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;1967custom&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://jalopnik.com/did-transformers-4-rip-off-this-guys-design-for-the-ne-510655228 &amp;quot;Did Transformers 4 Rip Off This Guy&#039;s Design For The New Bumblebee?&amp;quot;] at Jalopnik.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) Furthermore, new addition [[Crosshairs (AOE)|Crosshairs]]&#039;s alternate mode is a 2014 Chevrolet C7 Corvette Stingray, and recurring character Ratchet briefly appears at the beginning of the movie and transforms into his Hummer H2 ambulance mode (in the color scheme from &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039;) before being killed at the hands of Cemetery Wind and [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]].&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; is the first movie to feature an official partnership with a manufacturer for [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]&#039;s alternate mode. Earlier in the movie, he transforms into an old, rusty Marmon 97 truck cab (presumably without support from the manufacturer), but later upgrades into a brand new Western Star &amp;quot;5700 OP&amp;quot; concept truck that was designed specifically for the movie by &amp;quot;Twins Custom Coaches&amp;quot; and the team at West Coast Customs, with Western Star being a subsidiary of Daimler Trucks, who also provided a 2012 Freightliner Argosy that serves as [[Galvatron (AOE)|Galvatron]]&#039;s alternate mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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Other manufacturers that provided vehicles to be used for characters&#039; alternate modes were the Oshkosh Corporation with an Oshkosh Defense FMTV truck for [[Hound (Movie)|Hound]], the Volkswagen group with a 2013 Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse for [[Drift (ROTF)|Drift]] and a Lamborghini Aventador for Lockdown, and independent Italian manufacturer Pagani Automobili with a Pagani Huayra for [[Stinger (AOE)|Stinger]].&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Changes before, during and after production ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Slash (AOE)|Slash]] was originally intended to appear in the film (he even made it into some concept artwork).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;burt&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-age-of-extinction-concept-art-from-wesley-burt/30723/ Age of Extiction concept art by Wesley Burt], mirrored at Seibertron.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Glenn Morshower]] was originally set to return in this film, reprising his role of [[Morshower|General Morshower]], but didn&#039;t return due to a scheduling conflict.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://transformerslive.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/general-morshower-not-returning-to.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* Both [[Josh Duhamel]] and [[Tyrese Gibson]] were intended to cameo reprising their roles as [[William Lennox]] and [[Robert Epps]] but were cut before filming started.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/tyrese-gibson-in-talks-for-transformers-4-176078/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/tyrese-gibson-to-make-cameo-appearance-only-in-transformers-4-177407/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/josh-duhamel-to-make-cameo-appearance-in-transformers-4-177026/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2013/06/josh-duhamel-not-in-transformers-4.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* Ed Welburn, [[General Motors]]&#039; vice president for global design, was originally set to cameo as the C.I.A. head before being recast as a KSI employee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/29/automobiles/ed-welburn-gets-a-part-in-transformers.html?_r=0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* A scene depicting Hound and Bumblebee dancing with Tessa (while Drift bobs his head in the background) was not present in the final cut of the film.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnxZ7Gg2yV4&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Scorn&#039;s toys lack the additional two sails he has in the film, suggesting it was a late design change.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Pagani Huayra that eventually ended up as [[Stinger (AOE)|Stinger]] was at one point intended as the alternate mode of a female robot with the working name &amp;quot;Widow Maker&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vitaly&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-9/age-of-extinction-concept-art-by-vitaly-bulgarov-180636/ Age of Extinction concept art by Vitaly Bulgarov] at TFW2005, including &amp;quot;Widow Maker&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;jung&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/07/20/transformers-age-of-extinction-concept-art-shows-off-epic-scope-/ Age of Extinction concept art by Steve Jung] at Comicbook.com, including &amp;quot;Widow Maker&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Wahlberg&#039;s character was named &amp;quot;Flynn &#039;Ray&#039; Vincent&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;Cade Yeager&amp;quot; in a casting call. The same casting call also revealed that actor [[Glenn Morshower]] was supposed to reprise his role as [[Morshower|General Morshower]] from the previous two films.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;txcasting&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.featurefilmauditions.com/2013/05/casting-for-transformers-4-actors-and.html &amp;quot;Transformers 4&#039; open casting calls for actors and extras in Austin, TX and Detroit, MI&amp;quot;] at Film Auditions.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* A scene where Cade says &amp;quot;Stick behind me&amp;quot; is not present in the final cut of the film.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXSkXQs890g&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Another piece of dialogue cut from the film is when Cade says &amp;quot;You tell me&amp;quot; to Attinger when he asks for Optimus Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
* In some concept artwork, Grimlock appears as a horn-less T-Rex.&lt;br /&gt;
* The original running time of the film was 2 hours and 7 minutes, which would have made it the shortest film in the franchise. The final running time was 2 hours and 30 minutes &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=77992&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-4-age-of-extinction-running-time-revealed-180165/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dwayne Johnson]] was originally offered the role of Cade Yeager, but due to his commitment to &#039;&#039;Hercules: The Thracian Wars&#039;&#039;, the role was later taken over by his &#039;&#039;Pain &amp;amp; Gain&#039;&#039; co-star Mark Wahlberg.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://twitter.com/TheRock/statuses/327892048978006016 Dwayne Johnson on Twitter]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In some concept artwork, Drift was colored orange instead of blue. but according to the Generation 2 featurette in the Blu-ray release, this was changed because the vehicle that was going to play Drift was sold off.&lt;br /&gt;
*Some concept artwork shows that Optimus was intended to have his original trilogy body in the scenes where he had his new look.&lt;br /&gt;
*According to Ehren Kruger in the Generation 2 featurette, in the early drafts of the film, it was not originally centered on the Cade Yeager character.&lt;br /&gt;
*Numerous silver [[redeco]] toys were produced for Optimus Prime with the moniker of &amp;quot;Silver Knight&amp;quot;, suggesting that he was originally supposed to take on this alternate appearance in the film itself, almost certainly upon drawing a sword from the Knights&#039; armory. In the finished film, he does undergo some slight physical alteration at this point, his arms reconfiguring to resemble armor plates, but that&#039;s as far as it goes. This was also &#039;&#039;prrrrobably&#039;&#039; where he was supposed to get the rocket-boots he suddenly deploys at the film&#039;s end. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Disinformation campaign===&lt;br /&gt;
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Like &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Dark of The Moon&#039;&#039; before it, &#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; had a campaign that would mask details of the final film. However, unlike the previous films, this one was all encompassing; no novelization or comics by [[IDW Publishing]] was released, allowing for a great deal of the movie&#039;s spoilers to actually remain unknown longer than for the previous three films.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the original Michigan Film Office press release published on March 20, 2013, several vague plot details were revealed, including the fact that Autobots and Decepticons had &amp;quot;[[Cemetery Wind|all but vanished from the face of the planet]]&amp;quot;, a &amp;quot;[[Kinetic Solutions Incorporated|group of [...] businessman and scientists]]&amp;quot; were developing new technologies based on past encounters with the Transformers, and an &amp;quot;[[Lockdown (ROTF)|ancient, powerful Transformer menace]]&amp;quot; was targeting Earth.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;plotunveiled&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.thewrap.com/node/82001/ &amp;quot;‘Transformers 4’ Plot Unveiled by Michigan Film Office&amp;quot;] at TheWrap.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. These plot details were later claimed to be inaccurate by Paramount Pictures&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;notaccurate&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://screenrant.com/transformers-4-movie-plot-synopsis-cast/ Unofficial &amp;quot;&#039;Transformers 4&#039; Plot Synopsis Is Not Accurate&amp;quot;] at Screenrant.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, but in all their vagueness ultimately turned out to be not too far off from the film&#039;s plot.&lt;br /&gt;
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A lot of the newly-added characters were given &amp;quot;code names&amp;quot; during production, most of them related to the &#039;&#039;Rocky&#039;&#039; saga: &amp;quot;Duke&amp;quot; for Hound, &amp;quot;Adrian&amp;quot; for Galvatron, &amp;quot;Ivan&amp;quot; for Grimlock, &amp;quot;Rocky&amp;quot; for Slash (who was originally intended to appear in the movie, as noted above), &amp;quot;Southpaw&amp;quot; for Scorn, &amp;quot;Paulie&amp;quot; for Strafe, and &amp;quot;Thunderlips&amp;quot; for Slug. In addition, Crosshairs was code-named &amp;quot;Slingshot&amp;quot;, Drift was code-named &amp;quot;Bruce&amp;quot;, Lockdown was code-named &amp;quot;Max&amp;quot;, and Steeljaw was code-named &amp;quot;Wolf&amp;quot; (which &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; have simply been a working name).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;customer&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/961952-monzos-mega-hasbro-customer-service-listing-breakdown.html Hasbro customer service list]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Not only do the [[Dinobot (AOE)|Dinobots]] go unnamed in the film (other than [[Scorn (AOE)|Scorn]] getting the nickname, &amp;quot;Spike&amp;quot;), the word Dinobot is never even said by anyone. The audio description soundtrack on the home video releases refers to them as warriors or barbarians, but notes during the final scene that they &amp;quot;turn into Dinobots&amp;quot; (of course it also refers to Galvatron transforming &amp;quot;into an Autobot&amp;quot; when he turns into a robot, so make of that what you will).&lt;br /&gt;
*In addition to the Mercenary robots, [[Steeljaw (AOE)|Steeljaws]], the ball-shaped drones, and [[Stupid Drone]]s, inside Lockdown&#039;s ship there were also several hovering drones. These drones appear to be of the same type as those the United States used in &#039;&#039;Dark of the Moon&#039;&#039; (the one that got sucked into the engine of Bumblebee&#039;s commandeered Decepticon fighter). Maybe Attinger sold them to Lockdown?&lt;br /&gt;
*Michael Bay&#039;s website incorrectly refers to the film as &amp;quot;Transformers 4 The Age Of Extinction&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* The deceased Autobots and Decepticons shown in the cards Attinger pulled early in the film includes: [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]], [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] and [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]].&lt;br /&gt;
* This film seems to put a final nail in the coffin regarding the films&#039;  abandonment of the concept of using [[protoform]]s to travel through space; when the Autobots steal a ship from [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]], they immediately move to leave Earth, indicating they had been stranded on Earth for the past five years without a spaceship (following the destruction of the &#039;&#039;[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]&#039;&#039;). The fact that no mention is made of searching for any possible survivors of Cemetery Wind&#039;s hunt also suggests that all Autobots who did not return for this film have been killed off as well.&lt;br /&gt;
*The robot designs in this film are markedly different than the previous three; the robots have less alien appearances and are more heavily influenced by human forms with far less visible vehicle parts. &lt;br /&gt;
*Speaking of the appearance of the Autobots - they all are based on specific types of human combatants throughout history: Optimus is obviously a medieval knight, Hound heavily resembles a World War II-era commando, Crosshairs looks like a mercenary or assassin, Bumblebee&#039;s new form is highly Ninja-like, and Drift is unsurprisingly a samurai.&lt;br /&gt;
*Director Michael Bay makes a cameo appearance in the film as a guy sitting in the passenger seat of a truck whose trailer Optimus Prime and Bumblebee crash through after being attacked by Galvatron and Stinger.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;magiceffects&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btn2tPxjisA &amp;quot;Behind the Magic: The Visual Effects of &#039;Transformers Age of Extinction&#039;&amp;quot;] on the official ILMVisualFX Youtube channel.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Lost Age&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (トランスフォーマー ロストエイジ &#039;&#039;Toransufōmā Rosuto Eiji&#039;&#039;)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0056111 『トランスフォーマー』第4弾の邦題は『トランスフォーマー ロストエイジ』に決定！最新ビジュアルも公開]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Argentina:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers 4&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Cantonese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Binying Gamgong: Chimmit Saigei&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (變形金剛：殲滅世紀 &amp;quot;Transformers: The Century of Annihilation&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;German:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers:  Ära des Untergangs&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Transformers: Era of Doom&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Mandarin:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Biànxíng Jīngāng Sì: Juéjī Chóngshēng&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (Taiwan: 變型金剛4：絕跡重生, China: 变形金刚4：绝迹重生 &amp;quot;Transformers 4: Rebirth from the Extinction&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Polish:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Wiek zagłady&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Transformers: Age of Extinction&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Russian:&#039;&#039;  &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformery: Epokha istrebleniya&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (Трансформеры: Эпоха истребления &#039;&#039;Transformers: Age of Extermination&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Turkish:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Kayıp Çağ&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Transformers: Lost Age&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Age of Extinction| Age of Extinction (film)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Real world films]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dinoman96: /* Continuity errors */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{episode&lt;br /&gt;
|series=BMtoon&lt;br /&gt;
|ep=26&lt;br /&gt;
|series2=Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Returns&lt;br /&gt;
|next2=Shock! Of Course We&#039;re Doing It! Remix!!&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Endgame3 title.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=The Beast Era ends here... till [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|the]] [[Transformers: Universe (comic)|comics]] come out.&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[May 3]], [[2000]]&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Bob Skir|Robert N. Skir]]&lt;br /&gt;
|directed by=[[William Lau]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuty=[[Beast Wars continuity]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;As the last two living Transformers on Cybertron, Optimus Primal and Megatron stage their final battle.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BMEndgame3 Optimus Megatron begin fight.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Round one. FIGHT!]]&lt;br /&gt;
As [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus]] lies defeated, [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] stands gloating over his nemesis. To add insult to injury, Megatron has taken a new body... Primal&#039;s Optimal body, minus the [[Alternate mode|beast mode]]. And, to make it just right, Megatron then adds the [[spark]]s of the [[Maximal]]s to the [[spark containment unit]]. Enraged, Optimus fights back, but Megatron punches him through the wall to the outside of the [[Grand Mal|big floating head]]. Optimus manages to get in a few more shots, but stops, seeing the sparkless bodies of [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. Megatron takes a moment to rub it in, then attacks. &lt;br /&gt;
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Primal flees through the city scape, flying a merry little chase, until he reaches a power generator storage area. As Megatron temporarily loses track of his prey, Optimus comes up from behind and destroys several generators. Optimus barely manages to escape the inferno, as Megatron&#039;s left arm is thrown out of the flames. After Primal makes a bad pun, Megatron emerges. As Primal jumps into a nearby river, he dives, only to have Megatron follow him in and shoot a hole in the ground, causing them to sink into a whirlpool.&lt;br /&gt;
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As Optimus wakes up, he realizes he is in the [[Vector Sigma Chamber|chamber]] of the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]]. However, the [[technorganic orchard]] has been completely destroyed. Worse for Primal, he sees [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] and [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]]&#039;s sparkless bodies, lying on the ground, with their hands stretched toward each other. Megatron then arrives, and takes him to the surface. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:BMEndgame3 Sparks released.jpg|right|thumb|200px|It&#039;s like Chinese New Year, only I&#039;m using the souls of your friends as fireworks!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Heading toward the [[Council Citadel]], Megatron activates a throne built into the Citadel to appear, then opens the spark chamber, absorbing the sparks and preparing to ascend to supplant the [[Allspark|Matrix]] and achieve Godhood. As the sparks enter his body, Megatron grows in size. Primal tries to talk, saying that each spark is but a part of the Matrix and that together, they add to its totality. Megatron then activates the [[Key to Vector Sigma]], to be used against the [[organic core]]. However, Megatron cannot fully activate the Oracle, as he and Primal are linked. Megatron then severs the link, and Primal fears that he has failed. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:The Fall NNNNNOOOOOOO.JPG|left|180px|thumb|So Megatron spends half the episode flying around the planet with Primal, and he &#039;&#039;falls&#039;&#039; to his death?]]&lt;br /&gt;
However, the sparks of his comrades speak to him, inspiring him on. Shooting a beam at Megatron&#039;s throne, vines extend and grab Megatron&#039;s arms. Primal then tries to push him into the core. However, Megatron grabs hold of Optimus, who merely shoots off Megatron&#039;s fingers to sever the vine, allowing them both to fall into the core. As they plummet, Primal bids Megatron farewell. Upon impact with the core, both Optimus and Megatron [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|die]] in a flash of light. From space, a bright light rises, then begins to cover the surface of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Maximals endofBMac.JPG|right|180px|thumb|Isn&#039;t this show over yet?!?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Waking up, the Maximals find themselves on a technorganic world, which they realize is Cybertron. Rattrap is somewhat worried, then Botanica appears, and he jumps into her arms. As Silverbolt sweeps Blackarachnia off her feet, [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] appears as a tiny, [[technorganic]] wasp, pissed that he&#039;s been screwed over again. Then, the Oracle shows [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] a vision of Optimus Primal&#039;s spark, flying away, telling him to &amp;quot;transform, and transcend&amp;quot;. As it fades, Cheetor mutters that he understands. In the distance, the freed Transformers, their sparks once again in bodies, run over the horizon, ready to assume control of the newly technorganic Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[&#039;Til all are one]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|h2=[[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]]|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Diagnostic Drone]]s (3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
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|h3=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
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}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;So, Optimus Primal, it all comes down to you and me. Or should I say, you and &#039;&#039;you&#039;&#039;?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; notes the irony in fighting Optimus with a copy of his own previous body.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;My great ascension is finally complete! &#039;&#039;&#039;YEEEEESSSS!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; brings an old catchphrase back into style.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;What are you doing?!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Planting the seeds of the future. We must seek the balance, Megatron. Not only between the organic and the technological, but the balance between eternal enemies. Between you and I!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Primal&#039;&#039;&#039;. One good thing about the last episode, no more Optimus speeches.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The Great Transformation awaits, Megatron. Prepare to be... reformatted.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;NOOOOOOOOOOO!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Primal&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s and &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s last words. (Until &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039;, that is.)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Wazzpinator.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Still better than being possessed by Starscream.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The menace has passed. Now we can truly be together, dark venom of my heart.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Oh, of all the corny...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Silverbolt&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s attempt to woo &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; almost fails until she realizes that she doesn&#039;t care.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Waspinator want glory, Waspinator want power! And what does Waspinator get?! (Waspinator gets swatted away by Rattrap) Waspinator never gets what Waspinator wants!&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Poor old Waspinator&#039;&#039;&#039;, who now is the size of a regular wasp and has Thrust&#039;s head.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;At long last. Transform your destiny. Transform and... transcend.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I... understand.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—The &#039;&#039;&#039;Oracle&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Cheetor&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Technical and animation errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* The freed Transformers that appear at the end of the episode have pretty weird running animations. They are running forward, but their legs are moving as if they&#039;re running sideways.&lt;br /&gt;
* The first time Megatron uses his jet mode, his spark is colored blue instead of red.&lt;br /&gt;
* As Silverbolt delivers his final line, his right pupil is strangely shifted to the side, giving him an awkward stare.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* When Megatron blasts Optimus out of the Spark Chamber room, the deactivated body of Thrust is seen right next to those of Silverbolt and Blackarachnia. The problem with this is that Silverbolt and Blackarachnia were deactivated &#039;&#039;outside&#039;&#039; of the base, whereas Thrust was deactivated by Cheetor inside the anti-gravity engine room in the previous episode. Though that doesn&#039;t necessarily preclude the possibility that Megatron&#039;s drones moved the empty shells.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &amp;quot;[[Nemesis Part 1]]&amp;quot; it&#039;s implied Optimus can&#039;t go underwater as [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] has to track Megatron alone, but in this episode Megatron, using a copy of Optimus&#039;s &amp;quot;optimal&amp;quot; form is able to go underwater with ease.&lt;br /&gt;
* Megatron had both a flying robot mode and a jet mode to his disposal. Why couldn&#039;t he of escaped falling into the organic core by just flying out of there?&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*While in his vehicle modes, Megatron stores his spark in his cockpit. This is the same place that Primal stored the original [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime&#039;s]] spark during &amp;quot;[[Optimal Situation]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Megatron uses all of Optimal Optimus&#039;s modes (minus his removed beast mode) during this episode, arguably with greater efficiency than Primal did.&lt;br /&gt;
*In a truly beautiful irony, Megatron&#039;s final word is &amp;quot;Noooo!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*The Oracle makes contact with Cheetor towards the end of the episode. This is later played on in the comics, where later stories would establish Cheetor as a [[Matrix Templar]] alongside [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] and [[Snarl (BM)|Snarl]]. Also the very last line spoken is by Cheetor. Cheetor also got the very first line in Beast Wars, so this works as a bookend to the entire Beast Era, as well as signifying Cheetor&#039;s progression from naive rookie to capable commander.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;French&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bataille Finale (Partie 3)&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;Final Battle (Part 3)&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Fin du Jeu p3: La Graine du Futur&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (Canada, &amp;quot;End of the Game p3: The Seed of the Future&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Japanese&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mirai no Yukue&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (未来の行方, &amp;quot;The Course of the Future&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[January 30]], [[2005]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Spanish&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Juego Final Parte 3: Las Semillas del Futuro&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Russian&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Konets Igry (Chast 3): Semena Budushchego&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;End of the Game (Part 3): Seeds of the Future&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
{{homevidnote}}&lt;br /&gt;
;DVD&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2005 — &#039;&#039;Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Returns&#039;&#039; — Volume 7 ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Geneon Entertainment]]) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2006 — &#039;&#039;Beast Machines: Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Complete Series ([[Rhino Entertainment|Rhinomation]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Beast Machines&#039;&#039; — Season Two: Volume One ([[Sony]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Beast Machines&#039;&#039; — Complete Season Two (Sony)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of France.png|20px|France]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Beast Machines&#039;&#039; — Intégrale Saison 2 (Sony) — French audio only.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Beast Machines episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Dinoman96</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future</title>
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		<updated>2014-02-09T21:12:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dinoman96: /* Continuity errors */ typo&lt;/p&gt;
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|series=BMtoon&lt;br /&gt;
|ep=26&lt;br /&gt;
|series2=Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Returns&lt;br /&gt;
|next2=Shock! Of Course We&#039;re Doing It! Remix!!&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Endgame3 title.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=The Beast Era ends here... till [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|the]] [[Transformers: Universe (comic)|comics]] come out.&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[May 3]], [[2000]]&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Bob Skir|Robert N. Skir]]&lt;br /&gt;
|directed by=[[William Lau]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuty=[[Beast Wars continuity]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;As the last two living Transformers on Cybertron, Optimus Primal and Megatron stage their final battle.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BMEndgame3 Optimus Megatron begin fight.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Round one. FIGHT!]]&lt;br /&gt;
As [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus]] lies defeated, [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] stands gloating over his nemesis. To add insult to injury, Megatron has taken a new body... Primal&#039;s Optimal body, minus the [[Alternate mode|beast mode]]. And, to make it just right, Megatron then adds the [[spark]]s of the [[Maximal]]s to the [[spark containment unit]]. Enraged, Optimus fights back, but Megatron punches him through the wall to the outside of the [[Grand Mal|big floating head]]. Optimus manages to get in a few more shots, but stops, seeing the sparkless bodies of [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. Megatron takes a moment to rub it in, then attacks. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Primal flees through the city scape, flying a merry little chase, until he reaches a power generator storage area. As Megatron temporarily loses track of his prey, Optimus comes up from behind and destroys several generators. Optimus barely manages to escape the inferno, as Megatron&#039;s left arm is thrown out of the flames. After Primal makes a bad pun, Megatron emerges. As Primal jumps into a nearby river, he dives, only to have Megatron follow him in and shoot a hole in the ground, causing them to sink into a whirlpool.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As Optimus wakes up, he realizes he is in the [[Vector Sigma Chamber|chamber]] of the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]]. However, the [[technorganic orchard]] has been completely destroyed. Worse for Primal, he sees [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] and [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]]&#039;s sparkless bodies, lying on the ground, with their hands stretched toward each other. Megatron then arrives, and takes him to the surface. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BMEndgame3 Sparks released.jpg|right|thumb|200px|It&#039;s like Chinese New Year, only I&#039;m using the souls of your friends as fireworks!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Heading toward the [[Council Citadel]], Megatron activates a throne built into the Citadel to appear, then opens the spark chamber, absorbing the sparks and preparing to ascend to supplant the [[Allspark|Matrix]] and achieve Godhood. As the sparks enter his body, Megatron grows in size. Primal tries to talk, saying that each spark is but a part of the Matrix and that together, they add to its totality. Megatron then activates the [[Key to Vector Sigma]], to be used against the [[organic core]]. However, Megatron cannot fully activate the Oracle, as he and Primal are linked. Megatron then severs the link, and Primal fears that he has failed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The Fall NNNNNOOOOOOO.JPG|left|180px|thumb|So Megatron spends half the episode flying around the planet with Primal, and he &#039;&#039;falls&#039;&#039; to his death?]]&lt;br /&gt;
However, the sparks of his comrades speak to him, inspiring him on. Shooting a beam at Megatron&#039;s throne, vines extend and grab Megatron&#039;s arms. Primal then tries to push him into the core. However, Megatron grabs hold of Optimus, who merely shoots off Megatron&#039;s fingers to sever the vine, allowing them both to fall into the core. As they plummet, Primal bids Megatron farewell. Upon impact with the core, both Optimus and Megatron [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|die]] in a flash of light. From space, a bright light rises, then begins to cover the surface of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Maximals endofBMac.JPG|right|180px|thumb|Isn&#039;t this show over yet?!?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Waking up, the Maximals find themselves on a technorganic world, which they realize is Cybertron. Rattrap is somewhat worried, then Botanica appears, and he jumps into her arms. As Silverbolt sweeps Blackarachnia off her feet, [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] appears as a tiny, [[technorganic]] wasp, pissed that he&#039;s been screwed over again. Then, the Oracle shows [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] a vision of Optimus Primal&#039;s spark, flying away, telling him to &amp;quot;transform, and transcend&amp;quot;. As it fades, Cheetor mutters that he understands. In the distance, the freed Transformers, their sparks once again in bodies, run over the horizon, ready to assume control of the newly technorganic Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[&#039;Til all are one]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|h2=[[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]]|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Diagnostic Drone]]s (3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|h3=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;So, Optimus Primal, it all comes down to you and me. Or should I say, you and &#039;&#039;you&#039;&#039;?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; notes the irony in fighting Optimus with a copy of his own previous body.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;My great ascension is finally complete! &#039;&#039;&#039;YEEEEESSSS!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; brings an old catchphrase back into style.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;What are you doing?!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Planting the seeds of the future. We must seek the balance, Megatron. Not only between the organic and the technological, but the balance between eternal enemies. Between you and I!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Primal&#039;&#039;&#039;. One good thing about the last episode, no more Optimus speeches.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The Great Transformation awaits, Megatron. Prepare to be... reformatted.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;NOOOOOOOOOOO!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Primal&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s and &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s last words. (Until &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039;, that is.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Wazzpinator.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Still better than being possessed by Starscream.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The menace has passed. Now we can truly be together, dark venom of my heart.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Oh, of all the corny...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Silverbolt&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s attempt to woo &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; almost fails until she realizes that she doesn&#039;t care.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Waspinator want glory, Waspinator want power! And what does Waspinator get?! (Waspinator gets swatted away by Rattrap) Waspinator never gets what Waspinator wants!&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Poor old Waspinator&#039;&#039;&#039;, who now is the size of a regular wasp and has Thrust&#039;s head.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;At long last. Transform your destiny. Transform and... transcend.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I... understand.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—The &#039;&#039;&#039;Oracle&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Cheetor&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Technical and animation errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* The freed Transformers that appear at the end of the episode have pretty weird running animations. They are running forward, but their legs are moving as if they&#039;re running sideways.&lt;br /&gt;
* The first time Megatron uses his jet mode, his spark is colored blue instead of red.&lt;br /&gt;
* As Silverbolt delivers his final line, his right pupil is strangely shifted to the side, giving him an awkward stare.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* When Megatron blasts Optimus out of the Spark Chamber room, the deactivated body of Thrust is seen right next to those of Silverbolt and Blackarachnia. The problem with this is that Silverbolt and Blackarachnia were deactivated &#039;&#039;outside&#039;&#039; of the base, whereas Thrust was deactivated by Cheetor inside the anti-gravity engine room in the previous episode. Though that doesn&#039;t necessarily preclude the possibility that Megatron&#039;s drones moved the empty shells.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &amp;quot;[[Nemesis Part 1]]&amp;quot; it&#039;s implied Optimus can&#039;t go underwater as [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] has to track Megatron alone, but in this episode Megatron, using a copy of Optimus&#039;s &amp;quot;optimal&amp;quot; form is able to go underwater with ease.&lt;br /&gt;
* Megatron both had a flying robot mode and a jet mode to his disposal. Why couldn&#039;t he of escaped falling into the organic core by just flying out of there?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*While in his vehicle modes, Megatron stores his spark in his cockpit. This is the same place that Primal stored the original [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime&#039;s]] spark during &amp;quot;[[Optimal Situation]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Megatron uses all of Optimal Optimus&#039;s modes (minus his removed beast mode) during this episode, arguably with greater efficiency than Primal did.&lt;br /&gt;
*In a truly beautiful irony, Megatron&#039;s final word is &amp;quot;Noooo!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*The Oracle makes contact with Cheetor towards the end of the episode. This is later played on in the comics, where later stories would establish Cheetor as a [[Matrix Templar]] alongside [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] and [[Snarl (BM)|Snarl]]. Also the very last line spoken is by Cheetor. Cheetor also got the very first line in Beast Wars, so this works as a bookend to the entire Beast Era, as well as signifying Cheetor&#039;s progression from naive rookie to capable commander.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;French&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bataille Finale (Partie 3)&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;Final Battle (Part 3)&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Fin du Jeu p3: La Graine du Futur&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (Canada, &amp;quot;End of the Game p3: The Seed of the Future&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Japanese&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mirai no Yukue&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (未来の行方, &amp;quot;The Course of the Future&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[January 30]], [[2005]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Spanish&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Juego Final Parte 3: Las Semillas del Futuro&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Russian&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Konets Igry (Chast 3): Semena Budushchego&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;End of the Game (Part 3): Seeds of the Future&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
{{homevidnote}}&lt;br /&gt;
;DVD&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2005 — &#039;&#039;Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Returns&#039;&#039; — Volume 7 ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Geneon Entertainment]]) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2006 — &#039;&#039;Beast Machines: Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Complete Series ([[Rhino Entertainment|Rhinomation]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Beast Machines&#039;&#039; — Season Two: Volume One ([[Sony]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Beast Machines&#039;&#039; — Complete Season Two (Sony)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of France.png|20px|France]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Beast Machines&#039;&#039; — Intégrale Saison 2 (Sony) — French audio only.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Machines episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dinoman96: /* Continuity errors */ This always weirded me out&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{episode&lt;br /&gt;
|series=BMtoon&lt;br /&gt;
|ep=26&lt;br /&gt;
|series2=Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Returns&lt;br /&gt;
|next2=Shock! Of Course We&#039;re Doing It! Remix!!&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Endgame3 title.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=The Beast Era ends here... till [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|the]] [[Transformers: Universe (comic)|comics]] come out.&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[May 3]], [[2000]]&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Bob Skir|Robert N. Skir]]&lt;br /&gt;
|directed by=[[William Lau]]&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]&lt;br /&gt;
|continuty=[[Beast Wars continuity]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;As the last two living Transformers on Cybertron, Optimus Primal and Megatron stage their final battle.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BMEndgame3 Optimus Megatron begin fight.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Round one. FIGHT!]]&lt;br /&gt;
As [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus]] lies defeated, [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] stands gloating over his nemesis. To add insult to injury, Megatron has taken a new body... Primal&#039;s Optimal body, minus the [[Alternate mode|beast mode]]. And, to make it just right, Megatron then adds the [[spark]]s of the [[Maximal]]s to the [[spark containment unit]]. Enraged, Optimus fights back, but Megatron punches him through the wall to the outside of the [[Grand Mal|big floating head]]. Optimus manages to get in a few more shots, but stops, seeing the sparkless bodies of [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. Megatron takes a moment to rub it in, then attacks. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Primal flees through the city scape, flying a merry little chase, until he reaches a power generator storage area. As Megatron temporarily loses track of his prey, Optimus comes up from behind and destroys several generators. Optimus barely manages to escape the inferno, as Megatron&#039;s left arm is thrown out of the flames. After Primal makes a bad pun, Megatron emerges. As Primal jumps into a nearby river, he dives, only to have Megatron follow him in and shoot a hole in the ground, causing them to sink into a whirlpool.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As Optimus wakes up, he realizes he is in the [[Vector Sigma Chamber|chamber]] of the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]]. However, the [[technorganic orchard]] has been completely destroyed. Worse for Primal, he sees [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] and [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]]&#039;s sparkless bodies, lying on the ground, with their hands stretched toward each other. Megatron then arrives, and takes him to the surface. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:BMEndgame3 Sparks released.jpg|right|thumb|200px|It&#039;s like Chinese New Year, only I&#039;m using the souls of your friends as fireworks!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Heading toward the [[Council Citadel]], Megatron activates a throne built into the Citadel to appear, then opens the spark chamber, absorbing the sparks and preparing to ascend to supplant the [[Allspark|Matrix]] and achieve Godhood. As the sparks enter his body, Megatron grows in size. Primal tries to talk, saying that each spark is but a part of the Matrix and that together, they add to its totality. Megatron then activates the [[Key to Vector Sigma]], to be used against the [[organic core]]. However, Megatron cannot fully activate the Oracle, as he and Primal are linked. Megatron then severs the link, and Primal fears that he has failed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:The Fall NNNNNOOOOOOO.JPG|left|180px|thumb|So Megatron spends half the episode flying around the planet with Primal, and he &#039;&#039;falls&#039;&#039; to his death?]]&lt;br /&gt;
However, the sparks of his comrades speak to him, inspiring him on. Shooting a beam at Megatron&#039;s throne, vines extend and grab Megatron&#039;s arms. Primal then tries to push him into the core. However, Megatron grabs hold of Optimus, who merely shoots off Megatron&#039;s fingers to sever the vine, allowing them both to fall into the core. As they plummet, Primal bids Megatron farewell. Upon impact with the core, both Optimus and Megatron [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|die]] in a flash of light. From space, a bright light rises, then begins to cover the surface of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Maximals endofBMac.JPG|right|180px|thumb|Isn&#039;t this show over yet?!?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Waking up, the Maximals find themselves on a technorganic world, which they realize is Cybertron. Rattrap is somewhat worried, then Botanica appears, and he jumps into her arms. As Silverbolt sweeps Blackarachnia off her feet, [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] appears as a tiny, [[technorganic]] wasp, pissed that he&#039;s been screwed over again. Then, the Oracle shows [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] a vision of Optimus Primal&#039;s spark, flying away, telling him to &amp;quot;transform, and transcend&amp;quot;. As it fades, Cheetor mutters that he understands. In the distance, the freed Transformers, their sparks once again in bodies, run over the horizon, ready to assume control of the newly technorganic Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[&#039;Til all are one]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|h2=[[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]]|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Diagnostic Drone]]s (3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|h3=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;So, Optimus Primal, it all comes down to you and me. Or should I say, you and &#039;&#039;you&#039;&#039;?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; notes the irony in fighting Optimus with a copy of his own previous body.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;My great ascension is finally complete! &#039;&#039;&#039;YEEEEESSSS!&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; brings an old catchphrase back into style.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;What are you doing?!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Planting the seeds of the future. We must seek the balance, Megatron. Not only between the organic and the technological, but the balance between eternal enemies. Between you and I!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Primal&#039;&#039;&#039;. One good thing about the last episode, no more Optimus speeches.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The Great Transformation awaits, Megatron. Prepare to be... reformatted.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;NOOOOOOOOOOO!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Primal&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s and &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s last words. (Until &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039;, that is.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Wazzpinator.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Still better than being possessed by Starscream.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The menace has passed. Now we can truly be together, dark venom of my heart.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Oh, of all the corny...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Silverbolt&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;s attempt to woo &#039;&#039;&#039;Blackarachnia&#039;&#039;&#039; almost fails until she realizes that she doesn&#039;t care.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Waspinator want glory, Waspinator want power! And what does Waspinator get?! (Waspinator gets swatted away by Rattrap) Waspinator never gets what Waspinator wants!&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Poor old Waspinator&#039;&#039;&#039;, who now is the size of a regular wasp and has Thrust&#039;s head.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;At long last. Transform your destiny. Transform and... transcend.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I... understand.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—The &#039;&#039;&#039;Oracle&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Cheetor&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Technical and animation errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* The freed Transformers that appear at the end of the episode have pretty weird running animations. They are running forward, but their legs are moving as if they&#039;re running sideways.&lt;br /&gt;
* The first time Megatron uses his jet mode, his spark is colored blue instead of red.&lt;br /&gt;
* As Silverbolt delivers his final line, his right pupil is strangely shifted to the side, giving him an awkward stare.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continuity errors===&lt;br /&gt;
* When Megatron blasts Optimus out of the Spark Chamber room, the deactivated body of Thrust is seen right next to those of Silverbolt and Blackarachnia. The problem with this is that Silverbolt and Blackarachnia were deactivated &#039;&#039;outside&#039;&#039; of the base, whereas Thrust was deactivated by Cheetor inside the anti-gravity engine room in the previous episode. Though that doesn&#039;t necessarily preclude the possibility that Megatron&#039;s drones moved the empty shells.&lt;br /&gt;
* In &amp;quot;[[Nemesis Part 1]]&amp;quot; it&#039;s implied Optimus can&#039;t go underwater as [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] has to track Megatron alone, but in this episode Megatron, using a copy of Optimus&#039;s &amp;quot;optimal&amp;quot; form is able to go underwater with ease.&lt;br /&gt;
* Megatron&#039;s both had a flying robot mode and a jet mode to his disposal. Why couldn&#039;t he of escaped falling into the organic core by just flying out of there?&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*While in his vehicle modes, Megatron stores his spark in his cockpit. This is the same place that Primal stored the original [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime&#039;s]] spark during &amp;quot;[[Optimal Situation]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Megatron uses all of Optimal Optimus&#039;s modes (minus his removed beast mode) during this episode, arguably with greater efficiency than Primal did.&lt;br /&gt;
*In a truly beautiful irony, Megatron&#039;s final word is &amp;quot;Noooo!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*The Oracle makes contact with Cheetor towards the end of the episode. This is later played on in the comics, where later stories would establish Cheetor as a [[Matrix Templar]] alongside [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] and [[Snarl (BM)|Snarl]]. Also the very last line spoken is by Cheetor. Cheetor also got the very first line in Beast Wars, so this works as a bookend to the entire Beast Era, as well as signifying Cheetor&#039;s progression from naive rookie to capable commander.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;French&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bataille Finale (Partie 3)&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;Final Battle (Part 3)&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Fin du Jeu p3: La Graine du Futur&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (Canada, &amp;quot;End of the Game p3: The Seed of the Future&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Japanese&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Mirai no Yukue&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (未来の行方, &amp;quot;The Course of the Future&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; [[January 30]], [[2005]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Spanish&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Juego Final Parte 3: Las Semillas del Futuro&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Russian&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Title:&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Konets Igry (Chast 3): Semena Budushchego&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; (&amp;quot;End of the Game (Part 3): Seeds of the Future&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:*&#039;&#039;Original airdate:&#039;&#039; ?&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
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;DVD&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2005 — &#039;&#039;Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Returns&#039;&#039; — Volume 7 ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Geneon Entertainment]]) — Japanese audio only.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2006 — &#039;&#039;Beast Machines: Transformers&#039;&#039; — The Complete Series ([[Rhino Entertainment|Rhinomation]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Beast Machines&#039;&#039; — Season Two: Volume One ([[Sony]])&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Beast Machines&#039;&#039; — Complete Season Two (Sony)&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Flag of France.png|20px|France]] 2009 — &#039;&#039;Transformers: Beast Machines&#039;&#039; — Intégrale Saison 2 (Sony) — French audio only.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Megatron is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]. He is also known as Lord Megatron and sometimes nicknamed the Slag Maker.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatronguido.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Baby, why you make me gotta hurt you?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; is the founder of the Decepticon uprising, and their most well-known and feared [[Decepticon leader|leader]]. As a young, charismatic leader forged in battle and the heritage of war, he began to believe in a grand purpose for his race—it is the [[Transformer|Transformers]]&#039; glorious destiny to rule an [[Decepticon Empire|empire]] which will span the universe. The opposite of his mortal enemy [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], he feels great contempt for other Transformers who, he feels, betray their proud heritage by demanding peace and cooperation with weaker life forms. It is the destiny of the Decepticons to bring order to the universe through conquest, though in the millions of years since coining this purpose it remains to be seen how much of his mission statement is altruistic... and how much of it is mere words built to fuel warriors to further his desire for personal power.&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron will attempt almost anything to achieve his goals, but his schemes are rarely in any way subtle. This is perhaps due to his arrogance, but his pride is not so strong as to dissuade him from abandoning a battle he is losing. Some would question his sanity, though these few are mostly now dead by his hands... or his [[fusion cannon]], depending on his mood. Sometimes he uses his [[energon mace]] to strike them down. It does not matter how they die. Death by the hands of Megatron is an honor.&lt;br /&gt;
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His Earth [[Alternate mode]] is usually a modified [[wikipedia:Walther P38|Walther P38]]. His [[fusion cannon]] becomes the scope.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sometimes, Megatron is later [[Renaming|reborn as]] [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|You destroy everything you touch, Megatron!|Optimus Prime, &amp;quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|That&#039;s because everything I touch is food for my hunger. My hunger for &#039;&#039;power&#039;&#039;!|Megatron, &amp;quot;[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Portugese name (Portugal comics)&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatrão&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Chinese name (Taiwan):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Měi-jīa Wáng&#039;&#039;&#039; (美加王, &amp;quot;King Mega&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Mega [[Wiktionary:tron|Throne]]&amp;quot;) / &#039;&#039;&#039;Jǜ Wú Bà&#039;&#039;&#039; (巨無霸, &amp;quot;Extremely huge&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Extremely Gigantic&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Chinese name (China):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Wei Zhen Tian&#039;&#039;&#039; (威震天, &amp;quot;Extremely prestigious&amp;quot;, literally &amp;quot;Heaven-shaking Might&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Cantonese name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Megaton&#039;&#039;&#039; (麥加登 &#039;&#039;Mak Gaa Dang&#039;&#039;, literally &amp;quot;Wheat Garden&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Wheat Adding Climbing&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
====Generation 1====&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong1marvelarmy.jpg|left|250px|thumb|No, not fascist at all.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Four million years ago, &#039;&#039;rising from his beginnings as a gladiator for the city-state of [[Tarn]],&#039;&#039; Megatron and the Decepticons developed the ability of transformation, using it to begin the war against the Autobots, who fought back by mimicking the technology.  Megatron declared his intent to transform [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] into a &amp;quot;cosmic dreadnought&amp;quot; to conquer the universe. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}} &#039;&#039;However, he would only get as far as building massive engines deep beneath the planet&#039;s surface.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Legion of the Lost!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron also vowed to possess the planet&#039;s superdatabase, the [[Underbase]], for himself, so he followed a young [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] on his quest into the [[Temple of Knowledge]], where he destroyed the temple&#039;s curator, [[Boltax (G1)|Boltax]]. In order to keep the Underbase out of Megatron&#039;s hands, Optimus Prime destroyed the temple and launched the Underbase into space. {{storylink|The Flames of Boltax!}}  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong1earlymarvel.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Check out my awesome preproduction model!]] &lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;After the death of [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], Megatron&#039;s troops poised themselves around the Autobot capital city of [[Iacon]], slowly disintegrating its defenses. [[Emirate Xaaron]] chose Optimus Prime, a warrior, to take the [[Council of Autobot Elders]]&#039; place as leader of the Autobot forces. Optimus Prime and Megatron&#039;s armies then met in battle, and Megatron&#039;s forces were defeated—with help from an exploding bridge.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|And There Shall Come...a Leader!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In time, the war grew so fierce that Cybertron itself was shaken from its orbit, and set adrift in the cosmos. Eventually, over a thousand years after Megatron&#039;s war had begun,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The length of the war is given as &amp;quot;over a thousand years&amp;quot; in [[The Transformers (issue)|Marvel Comics #1]], but it&#039;s said to be just a hundred years in Marvel UK&#039;s [[Legion of the Lost!|Legion of the Lost!, Part 1]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the planet fell into the path of an asteroid cluster in the Sol system that threatened to destroy it, and so Optimus Prime led a contingent of his troops in the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] to reduce the asteroids to rubble, saving Cybertron. The plan was a success, but immediately afterwards, Megatron and his troops attacked, forcing Optimus Prime to crash the Ark into prehistoric Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Four million years later, in 1984, the Transformers were reawakened, and Megatron immediately set about trying to locate a source of fuel for the Decepticons. Unable to ingest common Earth gasoline, the Decepticons kidnapped [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] and forced him to develop a conversion process. Megatron soon found his Decepticons and his base of operations under siege by the Autobot [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] and a strange super-powered human named [[Spider-Man]]. The pair escaped with Sparkplug, but not before he had managed to convert Earth fuel into usable energy. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong1marvelblackhole.jpg|left|250px|thumb|In early Marvel UK stories, Megatron&#039;s colors were blinged up to match his box art.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;After an argument with Megatron, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] left their headquarters and set about on a plan to position himself above Megatron in the eyes of his comrades. [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], sent by Megatron to spy on Starscream, was discovered overhearing Starscream&#039;s treachery, and so Starscream tried to eliminate the elusive jaguar. This enraged Megatron, who punished Starscream by having him duel the Autobot [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]].&#039;&#039; {{storylink|The Enemy Within!}} &#039;&#039;Soon, Megatron and the full fury of the Decepticons under his command laid siege to the Ark itself, but his attack was stopped short by a malfunctioning [[Auntie]], the Ark&#039;s computer system. Captured with Optimus Prime in a stasis field, Auntie&#039;s fatal intentions towards them prompted Megatron to activate his rarely-used ability to tap into the power of a black hole. This proved unnecessary after [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] saved them, so Megatron moved to use his cosmic power on Prime—until Windcharger magnetically launched him out of the Ark and into the stratosphere.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Raiders of the Last Ark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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While Sparkplug was kidnapped, this had only afforded him the chance to poison their fuel, and the Decepticons were forcibly deactivated at the end of a climactic fight between the two factions. The Autobots were not saved, however, as [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] suddenly arrived and defeated the Autobots with a single blast. He brought the Decepticons back online to serve him—including Megatron. {{storylink|The New Order}} Chafing under his command, Megatron battled Shockwave, but was soundly defeated. {{storylink|The Worse of Two Evils!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong1marvelhumiliation.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Get used to this, Megatron.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Repeat Performance!&lt;br /&gt;
This forced Megatron into an alliance with [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], who located and reactivated the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], who had defeated Shockwave in the past. However, Ratchet loosed them on Megatron, and was willing to sacrifice himself to knock Megatron off a cliff. While Ratchet survived, Megatron disappeared for some time. {{storylink|Repeat Performance!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Soon, however, Megatron re-emerged, trapped in pistol mode, his higher brain functions disconnected. Used as a weapon by wannabe gangster, [[Joey Slick]], Megatron eventually restored himself, and was impressed enough with Slick for standing up to him that he allowed him to live. {{storylink|Shooting Star!}} At this point, Megatron was desperately low on fuel and attacked a coal mine, attempting to locate some, when he eventually completely ran out and froze in place. He was soon located by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], who brought him back online, and they subsequently entered into an alliance with the human [[Donny Finkleberg]], who used the alias of &amp;quot;Robot-Master&amp;quot; to con humankind into thinking the Transformers worked for him. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Shockwave and Megatron entered into a period of shared leadership, but when a two-pronged attack by the Autobots saw Megatron defeated by [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], and Shockwave allowing the Autobots to capture the secrets of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], Megatron was able to spin the situation and reclaim his leadership. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong1marveltarget2006.jpg|left|250px|thumb|SPOILERS!]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;A mysterious Decepticon called [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], along with his henchmen [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], entered the Decepticon camp and claimed he was the future Decepticon leader from the year 2006. Megatron found this preposterous, but though he tried to destroy the alleged impostor, he and Soundwave were buried under rubble by the powerful newcomers. Megatron was retrieved from the rubble by [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], and he and the Autobots forged an uneasy alliance against Galvatron. This was still not enough, as Galvatron (who was revealed to be Megatron himself from the future) easily disposed of all of them, and was only deterred when he was tricked into believing he had traveled back in time to a past that would not become his own future.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Target: 2006}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Megatron summoned the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] to Earth with the intention of having them hunt down Optimus Prime, but Shockwave used the opportunity to try and remove Megatron from the picture. After trailing Prime through a forest and bringing him to his knees, the Predacons turned on Megatron, blindsiding him, stealing his fusion cannon, and absconding.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Prey!}} &#039;&#039;When Megatron came to, he continued hunting Prime, but when the Autobot leader attacked him, he summoned the [[space bridge]] in hopes of escaping to Cybertron, only for Prime to be transported with him. On Cybertron, Megatron established contact with local Decepticon commander Lord [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]], whose body had been destroyed by [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], leaving him a head floating in a jar.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|The Harder They Die!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Straxus soon came to consider the irrational Megatron a liability and sought to dispose of him by transplanting his mind into Megatron&#039;s body, giving him mobility again while trapping Megatron in his remains. Megatron resisted the transfer, however, and the process went awry, leaving both Straxus and Megatron&#039;s minds trapped in Megatron&#039;s body together. Outwardly, Megatron seemed to become more and more unstable as the two personalities inside him battled for control; when attacked by Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], he even proved desperate enough to use his [[antimatter]] manipulation powers, nearly destroying the entire Decepticon complex, until [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] activated the space bridge and sent him back to Earth. Straxus&#039;s consciousness fled Megatron&#039;s body, and Megatron himself was left with no memory of the whole affair.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Resurrection!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong1marveltooclever.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Yes, you&#039;re very smart. Shut up.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In order to attain possession of a new energy-generating device, the hydrothermocline, Megatron battled Optimus Prime in a video game duel, using a cheat code to continue the fight after he had lost. Prime defeated him again, but at the expense of some of the game&#039;s characters, and ruled himself the loser because he would not have committed such an act in real life. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}} Prime was destroyed, and Megatron&#039;s elation soon turned into paranoia, as he had not killed Prime with his own hands, and believed he could still be alive. Bringing the Predacons &#039;&#039;back&#039;&#039; to Earth, Shockwave had them pose as Autobots and attack Megatron in another attempt to remove his threat, but the plan failed when the deranged Megatron defeated even [[Predaking]]. Believing (correctly, as it would turn out) that Prime&#039;s mind could have been preserved on computer disk, Megatron descended into outright insanity, and boarded the space bridge, vowing to go where Prime could not follow - right before he blew it up with his fusion cannon, apparently killing himself. {{storylink|Gone but Not Forgotten!}} However, the explosion had merely deposited him in [[Dead End (place)|the Dead End]] region of Cybertron, where he wandered as an [[empties|empty]], with no recollection of who he was. {{storylink|The Resurrection Gambit!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong1marveltwomegatrons.jpg|left|200px|thumb|buggabuggaWHA?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;s absence allowed a contingency plan arranged by Lord Straxus to be put into motion. In the event that his attempt to seize Megatron&#039;s body failed, Straxus had had a clone of Megatron created, complete with a copy of his brain patterns, into which his consciousness retreated following the previous debacle. Straxus lay dormant within the clone, which was activated following Megatron&#039;s seeming demise, and sent to Earth, to the sewers beneath [[London]]. There, the clone—believing itself to be the genuine article—battled the Autobots, [[G.I. Joe (team)|Action Force]], and the mechanoid [[Centurion (Marvel)|Centurion]], and wound up submerged in the Thames river.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Ancient Relics!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Some time later, it was salvaged by Shockwave, who brainwashed it and unleashed it on [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], a recreated future version of Megatron who had traveled back in time from the year 2006 and posed a threat to Shockwave&#039;s leadership. The clone Megatron, however, saw a possible partner in Galvatron, and the two teamed up to battle Autobots and Decepticons from both present and future in the apocalyptic [[Time Wars]]. Subsequently, the clone returned to Cybertron, where it defeated the ruling Decepticon [[Triumverate]], {{storylink|The Fall and Rise of the Decepticon Empire}} but was then confronted with the &#039;&#039;real&#039;&#039; Megatron—&#039;&#039;who was still wandering incoherently through Dead End until he had saved [[Blackjack|a Decepticon]] from Autobots and regained his memories. {{storylink|The Resurrection Gambit!}}&#039;&#039; The clone Megatron subsequently destroyed itself to prevent Straxus, buried inside its mind, from taking over.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Two Megatrons!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megs ratch.jpg|right|200px|thumb|As you can tell, the Marvel Comics weren&#039;t very good to Megatron. Or Ratchet for that matter...]]&lt;br /&gt;
While Megatron&#039;s [[Micromaster]] [[Air Strike Patrol]] created a diversion which pitted Optimus Prime&#039;s forces against [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]&#039;s, Megatron sent his Micromaster [[Sports Car Patrol]] to capture Ratchet from the Ark, bringing him to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Back from the Dead}} Threatening Ratchet with the destruction of the Ark and all of his patients aboard, Megatron forced him to recreate Starscream as a [[Pretender]]. Ratchet did so, but also restored [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] in the same manner, thwarting Megatron&#039;s scheme, and also bringing the explosives on board the Ark through a [[Trans-Time Dimensional Portal|trans-time dimensional portal]] into Megatron&#039;s base. When Megatron then attempted to flee through the portal, Ratchet tackled him as the Decepticon&#039;s base exploded around them, apparently killing them both. {{storylink|Skin Deep}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Soon after, however, Autobot detective [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] discovered that the explosion had actually blown them through the portal, and he dispatched a probe to pull them back from the gaps between reality. However, when they rematerialized, it was revealed that the explosion had fused the two enemies together, into a hideous, twisted mockery of a being, which ran rampant through the Ark. The half that was Ratchet begged Optimus Prime to kill them, but Prime could not, and had the Micromaster [[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]] separate their bodies. Unfortunately, Fixit could not separate their minds, as they were bonded at a molecular level; one could not survive without the other. {{storylink|The Pri¢e of Life!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Their separated bodies lay in the Ark&#039;s medbay until Grimlock pumped them full of [[Nucleon]], though the revitalizing effect took some time to help Ratchet and Megatron come to. Megatron awoke to find [[Galvatron II]], another version of him from the future, wandering the halls of the Ark as it returned to Earth. Galvatron II, driven to insanity, initially tried to kill Megatron to purge the memory of him that haunted his mind. Megatron was in no state to comprehend what was going on around him, and began interpreting Galvatron II&#039;s blows as coming from Ratchet. &lt;br /&gt;
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Though Galvatron II and Megatron eventually came to terms with each other while beating up Shockwave (he and Starscream had stolen the ship), vowing to join forces and take over the galaxy, Ratchet doomed them all by igniting the Ark&#039;s engines and spiraling the Autobot spacecraft into the Earth below.  Megatron was presumed dead among the remains that constituted the crash site in northern [[Canada]]. {{storylink|A Savage Circle}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;In an alternate 1990, Megatron was in control of Decepticon forces on Cybertron, including [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], [[Stranglehold]], [[Octopunch]], and [[Warmonger]]. After they captured a trio of Autobots, the heroes somehow managed to escape custody. They were recaptured, but Megatron realized there must be a traitor in his midst. Accusing Bludgeon of the crime, he attempted to beat the [[Pretender]] into confessing. Instead, Bludgeon demanded a trial by combat, as was his right as a Decepticon. Megatron agreed, and sent him out into the wreckage surrounding the base, with his three fellow Decepticons chasing after him, eager for the kill. Octopunch and Stranglehold both tried and failed to destroy Bludgeon, but Warmonger managed to get the drop on him. When Warmonger hesitated to kill a helpless foe, however, Megatron executed him as the REAL traitor. He then revealed this was his plan all along, to draw out the traitor by trusting in the sickeningly honorable Autobot code to make the spy reveal himself. Megatron also made it clear he would have had no regrets if Bludgeon had died in the &amp;quot;testing&amp;quot; process.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|The above story is the earliest known account from the Marvel UK alternate &amp;quot;Movie&amp;quot; timeline. The split between the main comic and the future stories almost certainly took place in 1989, either due to the Time Wars, the events of [[Primal Scream (issue)|Primal Scream]] where Primus alerted Unicron to his location 15 years early, or both.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=====Earthforce=====&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megs earthforce.jpg|left|200px|thumb|The real culprit behind global warming.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;In an offshoot of the Marvel timeline following the restoration of the Autobots aboard the Ark with Nucleon, but before... uh ... (okay, see [[Earthforce]] for continuity notes, it&#039;s pretty complicated...)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Somewhere in the Arizona desert, Megatron and the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] built a rocket that would launch into Earth&#039;s atmosphere and detonate, converting the atmosphere into [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. The Decepticons were interrupted by [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], and though Megatron insisted they were too late to stop the rocket,&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Starting Over!}} &#039;&#039;Prowl rode the rocket into the atmosphere, and was able to destroy the satellite the rocket carried before it released its gas canisters.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Desert Island Risks!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Now that [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]&#039;s [[Earthforce]] had installed itself to counter Megatron and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]&#039;s Decepticons on Earth, the two leaders decided to hold an [[Enclave]] to foster unity. This event was sabotaged by the Earthforce by staging an assassination attempt on Megatron, and once again, Megatron and Shockwave&#039;s respective groups were at each other&#039;s throats.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|The Bad Guy&#039;s Ball!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;After being ambushed at a secret energon drop by Shockwave and the [[Triple Changer|Triple Changers]], an enraged Megatron demanded that [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] use his mind-reading powers to find the traitor who betrayed his location to the enemy. Of course, Soundwave WAS the traitor, so this proved difficult. He managed to satisfy Megatron, though, by framing the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] named [[Wildrider]] for leaking the information, knowing Megatron would destroy Wildrider before he could explain himself. {{storylink|Secrets}} When Megatron gained information as to Shockwave&#039;s whereabouts, Megatron ambushed him, unaware the information had been deliberately leaked by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Starscream and Soundwave subsequently deposed their respective leaders and when they came under attack from the Autobots (who had been alerted to their position by Starscream) Megatron and Shockwave were forced to join forces to escape.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Internal Affairs!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Megatron and Shockwave soon hired a group of inept assassins to attack Starscream, knowing he would believe Soundwave had sent them and thus initiate a confrontation between the pair. They then hired the surviving members of the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]] - Bludgeon, Octopunch and Stranglehold - to kill whichever one of the two survived. The plan failed thanks to the intervention of the Autobots, who needed Starscream&#039;s help to save [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]], and Megatron and Shockwave were forced to retreat again.&#039;&#039; {{storylink|Assassins}} {{storylink|External Forces!}} {{storylink|The Lesser Evil}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=====&#039;&#039;Another Time And Place&#039;&#039;=====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:TFAnnual1991rip.JPG|right|100px|thumb|Prime and Grimlock disapprove of Megatron&#039;s Bludgeon cosplay.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Trapped in non-transforming Action Master bodies, Grimlock and the Dinobots snuck a shuttle to [[Hydrus Four]], where rumor had it a new, less destructive brand of [[Nucleon]] had been developed. However, the allegedly defeated Decepticons were waiting for just such a trip, and followed the Dinobots to the planet&#039;s surface, where they were ambushed and captured. Grimlock woke up to hear endless chants of &amp;quot;Megatron! Megatron! Megatron!&amp;quot; as technicians had strung up the late Decepticon leader&#039;s body, culled from his supposed doom on Earth, for repairs. Bludgeon would revive him and revive their fallen, and then the war would begin anew.&lt;br /&gt;
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But Bludgeon wouldn&#039;t get the chance. The cavalry arrived, and Optimus Prime&#039;s Autobots quickly quelled the Decepticons&#039; would-be resurgence. As Bludgeon was taken to pieces by a vicious repair spider, a partially-restored Megatron, a visual monstrosity, lunged half-alive at Grimlock and Optimus Prime. With a double-teamed punch, Megatron&#039;s undead corpse was easily defeated. The war was truly over. {{storylink|Another Time and Place}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Generation 2====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Megatrong2cobra.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Green with evil!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Although thought dead for a year or two, Megatron had actually survived the Ark crash (though his mental link with Ratchet was forgotten), and had quietly worked to repair it, concealing it beneath the ground. From there, Megatron tracked a signal, mistakenly believing it was another Transformer, but instead he found the shape-shifting castle of the terrorist organization, [[Cobra]]. He entered into a bargain with its leader, [[Cobra Commander]], offering him the technology of the Ark in exchange for the new weapons his organization was developing. {{storylink|Realignments}} Reconstructed into a new tank body with a powerful rail gun, Megatron defeated a squad of Autobots sent to stop him, and then turned on Cobra, capturing the scientist who had developed his gun, [[Dr. Sidney Biggles-Jones]] and escaping in the Ark. {{storylink|Final Transformations}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Both [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] had snuck on board, and following a clearly one-sided battle with Spike&#039;s [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster partner]], [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], Megatron was seemingly killed again when Fortress Maximus threw himself into the Ark&#039;s power core, destroying it once and for all. {{storylink|All or Nothing!}} But Megatron (and a repaired Starscream) rejoined the Decepticons on Earth to challenge the current Decepticon leader, Bludgeon. {{storylink|The Power and the Glory}} Bludgeon was deposed, fatally, though Megatron continued many of the Pretender&#039;s ongoing projects, such as calling the attentions of Optimus Prime to Earth by indiscriminately rampaging across it. When Prime finally showed up, Megatron&#039;s old foe at first attempted to talk and join forces against the new threat of [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] and his [[Cybertronian (faction)|Advanced-Decepticons]], but Megatron ignored him, ripped the [[Creation Matrix]] from his chest, and left to infuse a new generation of warriors with life. {{storylink|The Gathering Darkness}} His warriors proved to be highly successful, and helped Megatron secure the galvanizing additive known as [[Rheanimum]]. Immediately thereafter, however, Megatron&#039;s Decepticons came into conflict with Jhiaxus&#039;s forces. Many of Megatron&#039;s troops were killed in the resulting battle, and Megatron himself was humbled brutally in battle against Jhiaxus, getting knocked out of space and crashing with immense force into the planet below. {{storylink|New Dawn}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong2idiot.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Megatron&#039;s getting a little too self-aware.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In order to gain revenge, Megatron entered into an alliance with the Autobots to &amp;quot;put their house in order&amp;quot;. He was forced to deal with Prime&#039;s more altruistic streak, but toughed it out for the sake of the alliance. {{storylink|Escalation!}} But, of course, they were betrayed by Starscream, who joined forces with Jhiaxus&#039; troops, alerted Jhiaxus to the location of the Autobot/Decepticon camp on Earth, and then again betrayed both sides by using the opportunity to steal the Creation Matrix and Megatron&#039;s [[Warworld]]. {{storylink|Total War!}} Starscream, using the powers of the Matrix, fused himself with the Warworld, which gave Megatron and Optimus Prime great difficulty as they fought their way through its shifting insides. {{storylink|Dark Shadows!}} Ultimately, Starscream relinquished the Creation Matrix to Optimus Prime when it was discovered that the artifact was making him nice, allowing Megatron to load a ship with canisters of [[Rheanimum]] gas and head back to Earth, where the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]] was beginning its attack. Megatron arrived just in time to coat the remaining Transformers with the gas, which protected them from the Swarm long enough for Optimus Prime to defeat the Swarm with the Matrix. The Swarm departed, changed into a force for good, leaving both Autobot and Decepticon seemingly united for good. {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fun Publications &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; comics====&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|The Classics comic takes place after the end of the original Marvel Comic, but in a [[splinter timeline]] that does not include the events of the Marvel UK-exclusive stories or Generation 2.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatronclassicscrossingover.jpg|left|175px|thumb|I got your child safety right here pal!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Fifteen years had passed since Megatron supposedly died along with Shockwave, Starscream, and Ratchet when the Ark crashed violently into the Yukon. The defeated Decepticon army scattered, and the Autobots were able to return to a peaceful Cybertron.&lt;br /&gt;
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Inexplicably, Megatron returned (in a new body) and once again stalked the Earth, rallying the remaining Decepticons to him.  Megatron rebuilt many of these Decepticons using altered specifications created by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], shortly before Megatron presumably had Shockwave decommissioned in an unspecified way.  Eventually, Megatron, roaming free, stumbled across [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] and [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], who had travelled from [[Unicron Trilogy|their universe]] in a fantastic energon/forcefield explosion, but his evil intentions for them were interrupted by human-piloted [[Armored Robot Hunters]] (or RUNTs) and subsequently a small team of Autobots led by Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Crossing Over, Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron managed to escape with Landquake and return with him to the Decepticons&#039; base of operations, where he had Landquake restrained, interrogated, and inspected. Megatron was intrigued by Landquake&#039;s claims of being from another dimension. He was further intrigued by a radiation wavelength signature detected in South America that exactly matched Landquake&#039;s readouts, and so Megatron led his Decepticons to the source of the signature. {{storylink|Crossing Over, Part 2}} There, he encountered not only a fleet of jet-piloting RUNTs, but also the Autobots again. This time, with the might of his Decepticons behind him, he eagerly engaged in battle. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mtmte1 megatron throne.jpg|right|thumb|250px|FOOL! Pass me the TP!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron was responsible for bringing Cybertron out of its [[Golden Age]] when he re-started the Autobot/Decepticon civil war nine million years ago. Among his first actions was the fatal wounding of a young dock worker named Orion Pax, who was rebuilt to become Megatron&#039;s mortal enemy, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron&#039;s forces boarded the Autobots&#039; spacecraft when it was on a mission to search for new sources of energy on other planets, and was knocked offline like all the other Transformers when the craft crashed on prehistoric Earth. When both factions reawakened in 1984, Megatron made it his mission to pillage all of Earth&#039;s natural resources and enslave its populace, with the goal of revitalizing Cybertron and dominating the entire universe. His plans were by turns cunning, wicked, outrageous, and often, utterly, utterly ludicrous.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2005, Megatron faced off with Optimus Prime in a battle at [[Autobot City]], during which he fatally wounded the Autobot leader, but not without taking severe damage himself. Cast adrift into space, Megatron was found by the planet-eater, [[Unicron]], and recreated as [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In other timelines which branch out of this one, Megatron became a [[Transmetal]], ordered the [[murdered puppy|murder of a puppy]], and years after his transformation into Galvatron, became Megatron once again, in various powered-up forms.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Kid Stuff Talking Story Books continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Earl Hammond]] (?)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|This is notable because it is hilarious. Also, Megatron totally sounds like &amp;quot;Mumm-Ra&amp;quot; from &#039;&#039;Thundercats&#039;&#039;. Megatron had an odd obsession with drills, mole machines, and other burrowing devices, as he used them frequently in his plans for energy gathering and conquest.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Big Looker Storybook continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:KidsCliff1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|MTV pimps Megatron&#039;s ride.]]&lt;br /&gt;
A bunch of humans set up a race for charity, and the victor would receive a year&#039;s supply of oil and gasoline. Well, the Decepticons desperately wanted that bounty, so rather than just steal it, they decided to sneak into the race. [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] was one of the Autobots driving in the rally and was unaware that the scary black Cadillac was actually being driven by Megatron! Megatron dogged Cliffjumper for quite a while but ended up losing to the Minibot. Cliffjumper won the race and everybody smiled, even Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Great Car Rally}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PDtype-Matrixattack.jpg|left|thumb|250px|This is how the movie &#039;&#039;should&#039;ve&#039;&#039; gone.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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With the discovery of a new super energy source known as the [[Blackball]]s, Megatron found himself joined by numerous Decepticons from all across the timestream, all hoping to obtain the ebony spheres.  Naturally, oposing him were a team of Autobots, also gathered from all across the timestream.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one confrontation with his eternal foe, Optimus Prime, Megatron got to relive their battle at Autobot City.  Except this time around, Megatron was defeated when Prime launched his &amp;quot;Matrix Attack&amp;quot; (&#039;&#039;literally&#039;&#039; launching the Matrix from his chest, bonking Megatron on the noggin). {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|You&#039;re Great! Optimus Prime!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] managed to find what he &#039;&#039;thought&#039;&#039; was a Blackball.  He presented it to Megatron and received much praise...until the Blackball turned out to be a cartoon bomb which exloded in their faces.  As the Autobots stood astonished that their crude strategy succeeded, a badly singed Megatron was left in a smoking crater, strangling Starscream. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|Don&#039;t Cry! Megatron!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During battle with [[Victory Leo]], Megatron found himself horribly outmatched.  Thinking quickly, he launched a special weapon from his fusion cannon: a ball of yarn.  The giant robot kitty immediately began playing with the yarn, giving Megatron the distraction he needed to escape. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|Tough as Nails! Victory Leo!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After that, he had to snap a pensive [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] out of a trance and order him to return to a battle he had walked away from in order to look at clouds. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|Oh Overlord.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Some time later, Starscream located yet another Blackball.  This time, though, he decided to keep it&#039;s power for himself and use it to overthrow Megatron.  Then it exploded in his hands because it was &#039;&#039;another&#039;&#039; cartoon bomb.  Megatron watched the explosion from a distance, unaware of what was going on. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|Good Luck! Starscream!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the year 199X, the Decepticons had learned of a powerful new energy source known as [[forestonite]] which just happened to be located (surprise surprise) on [[Earth]]. Megatron sent his trio of [[Cyberjet|Cyberjets]] to Earth first to draw out the enemy Autobots. The Cyberjets made quick work of [[Electro]] but were soon halted by the appearance of Optimus Prime.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron then entered the fray and fired his Black Hole Burn attack from his fusion cannon, narrowly missing Optimus Prime but vaporizing [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]] in the process. Prime fought fiercely but Megatron began to take the upper hand in battle.  &lt;br /&gt;
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However, Prime was encouraged to keep fighting by the cheers of a human boy named [[Junpei]]. Megatron, surprised at Prime&#039;s resilience, attempted to finish his foe off with his Tornado Axe attack. Prime countered with his Double Wheel-Torque Mega-Ton, which trumped Megatron&#039;s attack and injured the Decepticon badly. Megatron teleported back to his ship and left Earth&#039;s atmosphere, vowing to return. {{storylink|The New Battle!!|Generation 2: The New Battle!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039;  [[Garry Chalk]]  (English)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:G1Megatron MasterBlaster stasislock.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Sure, we all need our beauty sleep, but 4 million years, now that&#039;s taking the pee.]]&lt;br /&gt;
After the Autobot/Decepticon war moved to Earth, Megatron hunted down the [[Voyager probe]] as it traveled through the [[Solar System]] and encoded a message on its disc. Should his efforts fail, he left detailed instructions to any Decepticon descendants who recovered the disc, instructions which apparently condoned use of [[transwarp]] technology to alter history in his favor by locating the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] before it was reactivated, with access codes to the Ark stored in the disk, and killing Optimus Prime before the Autobots and Decepticons reawaken. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:G1Megatron Disc Agenda part2.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Now that&#039;s what we call a smile.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The disk (dubbed the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]]) eventually fell into Cybertronian hands and was stolen by a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] who shared Megatron&#039;s name.  {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}} This new [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], later stranded in Earth&#039;s past, was able to use a recording of the original Megatron to sway one of the original Megatron&#039;s most loyal troops, [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], to his cause. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:G1Megs Nemesis part2 deletedclip.jpg|left|150px|thumb|I was cut out?! This is Starscream&#039;s doing!]]&lt;br /&gt;
The original Megatron himself was stranded in Earth&#039;s past on board the Ark, offline.  Before long, Predacon Megatron was able to approach the comatose body of his namesake and steal his [[spark]], integrating it into his own system. Almost immediately, however, during Predacon Megatron&#039;s painful reaction to this integration, he was thrown into a pool of lava by his treacherous underlings. In spite of—or perhaps because of—this, Predacon Megatron emerged from the lava, with a new body that could now transform into a fire-breathing dragon. It is unknown how much influence the original Megatron&#039;s Spark had in this metamorphosis. {{storylink|Master Blaster}} At the end of the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039;, after Predacon Megatron was overcome, the original Megatron&#039;s Spark was returned to his body, restoring the flow of history. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This scene was cut out of &amp;quot;[[Nemesis Part 2]]&amp;quot; for air-time reasons, but its occurrence is still implied by [[Optimus Primal]]&#039;s note that all was as it should be.  The clip was added as a special feature to [[Kid Rhino]]&#039;s and [[Madman Entertainment]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; season 3 DVD box sets.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Megatron is mentioned in the [[Covenant of Primus]], an ancient sacred text which claims to prophesize future events, including the Beast Wars. It is implied that both Megatrons took their name from here. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong1gladiator.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Gladiators can afford extra paint applications.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Young Megatron was a rising star in gladiatorial combat in the depths of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. As victory upon victory mounted, he began to realize that the games were nothing more than an elaborate conspiracy by the [[Council of Ancients]] to divert the attentions of the masses from the dangerous truth of Cybertron’s history. When Megatron began to show interest in Cybertron&#039;s buried past through exploration and research, the Council of Ancients attempted to have him assassinated - a plan that only resulted in stirring up even more discontent among Cybertronians, allowing Megatron to begin recruiting for the Decepticon movement. &lt;br /&gt;
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First his &amp;quot;inner circle,&amp;quot; then many of the gladiators, and then finally disgruntled civilians answered his call to action. The Decepticons were born. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Fledglingcause.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Megatron is so grass-roots.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In search of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Autobot Matrix]], Megatron personally killed [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], only to find that the Autobot leader was not even carrying the Matrix of Leadership.  He then sent an assassination squad to the inauguration of the new [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus]], only for the whole squad to be killed. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1}} Refusing to give up, Megatron paid a visit to one of the huge planetary engines which the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s were reactivating, using it to orchestrate a disaster in the destruction of the [[Forum of Enlightenment]], all in order to lure Optimus underground.  Megatron sent [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]]s to kill Prime and bring him the Matrix {{storylink|The War Within issue 2}} As Megatron explained to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] his plan to transform [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] into a massive warworld that would cut a swathe of destruction through the galaxy, Optimus again defeated the Decepticons sent against him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron finally opted to confront the new Prime personally, but Starscream blasted the bridge they were standing on, plunging them both into an abyss. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3}} Megatron continued to press his attack, explaining to Optimus exactly why he needed the Matrix and urging Prime to join him.  When Megatron drove his fist into his opponent&#039;s chest, the Matrix enveloped them both in light, and they found themselves on [[Earth|an alien world]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 4}} Visions of the future, spawned by the Matrix, played out before the two warriors, even as they continued to fight.  Finally they were returned to subterranean Cybertron, but were quickly separated. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5}} Optimus returned with [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]&#039;s sword and a new resolve, defeating Megatron.  Meanwhile, Starscream had activated the planet mechaforming process too soon, resulting in the destruction of the machinery.  Some time later, Megatron, his memory of the battle and Matrix visions erased, found Soundwave while stumbling through the Cybertron underground. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Roughly 7.4 million years BCE, Megatron and Optimus Prime disappeared in an early test of the then-unstable [[Space Bridge]] matter-transport system. {{storylink|Fragmentation}} Spending an undisclosed time on the planet [[Quintessa]], Megatron returned with an overwhelming army of lifeless [[Air Warrior|seeker clones]], quickly subjugating Cybertron. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath issue 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Four million years BCE, Cybertron was threatened by a massive approaching asteroid, so Optimus Prime led a contingent of Autobots aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] to blow the rock to fragments, which were transported away by an orbital Space Bridge network. When this task was completed, Megatron chose this moment to strike, attacking the Ark with his troops. Crippled, the craft flew through one of the Space Bridge portals, and was transported to prehistoric Earth, where it crashed, entombing the occupants in stasis for four million years.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots and Decepticons were reactivated in 1984, but specific details of their battles in the 1980s and 1990s are unrecorded. (Presumably, they broadly resembled the G1 cartoon and comic books.) In 1999, a Autobot/Human military alliance succeeded in capturing and deactivating the Decepticons. However, the [[Ark II]] spaceship carrying them back to Cybertron exploded shortly after liftoff, and the Transformers were believed destroyed.  In actuality, they had been scattered back to Earth, where they lay in [[stasis lock]] across the globe for three years. This slumber was brought to an end when [[Lazarus|Adam Rook]] (aka Lazarus), a rogue military scientist who had devised a method of controlling Transformers, salvaged many of the fallen Cybertronians and reprogrammed them as mass killing machines, which he then attempted to sell on the black market. Megatron was first to break free of the human&#039;s control, overriding the new programming and capturing Lazarus during an auction. Megatron forced Lazarus to watch as he unleashed a technorganic virus designed to transform all of Earth into a new Cybertron. It also served to lure Optimus Prime and the Autobots, also now reactivated, to his location. Megatron, tired of the war, continuously asked Prime to join him. After his first failed attempt, Megatron unleashed [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] on [[San Francisco]], ensuing in mass slaughter, in an attempt to show Prime the humans were not worth fighting for. However, the selfless sacrifice of several firemen restored Prime&#039;s faith in humanity and allowed him and the Autobots to beat back Megatron.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Shockwavedwwarandpeace.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Megatron&#039;s a bottom.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Several months later. Megatron was subliminally summoned to a remote area in Alaska along with the other Earthbound Transformers. There they battled until Megatron&#039;s former second-in-command, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], arrived and revealed that in their absence the war on Cybertron had ended. He arrested Megatron, Prime, and their troops as war criminals. Megatron, weakened by battle, was quickly defeated by Shockwave and loaded aboard his shuttle for return to Cybertron, only to have Starscream seize the opportunity by jettisoning him into space on the return trip. Megatron used the time floating in space to contemplate his existence and the Decepticon goal. Realizing that he had wasted millennia in his feud with Prime, Megatron resolved to once again conquer Cybertron as a means of enhancing the Transformer race and strengthening it from outside threats. It seemed as through he would not live to accomplish this goal, however, as death closed in on him... only for him to be retrieved by the [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]] [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]. Wreck-Gar took Megatron to the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]] and repaired and re-armed him, as well as digging up and reactivating a number of seeker clones that had wound up there after being dumped through space bridge portals. Megatron returned the favor by stabbing him in the back with an energy dagger.&lt;br /&gt;
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Traveling to the Planet [[Beast (planet) | Beest]], Megatron defeated the exiled Decepticon warlords, the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]], and rebuilt them into the mightiest of all combiners, [[Predaking]], to serve as his ace in the hole in his quest to reclaim leadership of the Decepticons. Moving in stealth on Cybertron, Megatron defeated Shockwave, severing his laser arm and forcing him into servitude. He then returned to Earth to collect the remaining Decepticons under Starscream&#039;s command, and to teach Starscream a lesson long in coming. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Devil&#039;s Due &#039;&#039;G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers&#039;&#039; continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Megatronddjoe.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Joey Slick &amp;gt; Cobra Commander]]&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Cobra]], a ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world, found a crashed spaceship full of Transformers in [[stasis lock]], Megatron proved to them that the machines weren&#039;t piloted vehicles when he briefly awoke and groaned that he still functioned. Cobra rebuilt the aliens into new vehicles and reprogrammed them to serve Cobra, with the exception of Megatron, who was rebuilt to transform into a Walther P38 handgun, but was only locked in this mode and not reprogrammed. Holstered by [[Cobra Commander]] at all times, the Decepticon mocked Cobra&#039;s decisions, such as deciding that [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], Megatron&#039;s traitorous lieutenant, would serve as the Commander&#039;s choice of transport. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless of his complaints, Megatron&#039;s only chance to be released from his state was to follow Cobra Commander&#039;s orders, such as providing instructions on how to create [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. Things weren&#039;t all bad, though, as he still got some enjoyment out of seeing his nemesis [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] being forced to steal and destroy. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2}} Megatron was also pleased when [[Destro]] showed up and started bossing Cobra Commander around. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Transformers were cleared of their reprogramming thanks to [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], Cobra Commander found himself face to face with a very stern Optimus Prime, and tried to use Megatron to shoot the Autobot. However, Megatron was still had some control of his body and strictly refused to fire, instead bargaining with Cobra Commander to return him to normal. The human gave in, and Megatron transformed and clashed with his old enemy. With Prime low on energon, Megatron came out on top, but before he could finish Prime off, Starscream attacked him and tried to take leadership of the Decepticons. Megatron got rid of him, but the distraction had allowed several Autobots to come to Optimus Prime&#039;s rescue. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Ignoring Prime to focus on some more long-term plans, Megatron made [[Doctor Mindbender]] use the [[SPS Satellite]] to create large amounts of energon. However, his party was soon crashed when Optimus Prime attacked the facility and used the energon to power up. Finding the situation unsalvageable, Megatron tried to escape while Prime was busy with [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5}} He ran right into [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]], but was unimpressed with their firepower and fought back with his [[energon mace]], possibly killing [[Mercer]]. Things quickly turned for the worse for Megatron; his arm was heavily damaged by a stray beam from the malfunctioning SPS Satellite, he was pounded by G.I. Joe&#039;s rockets, and Optimus Prime caught up to him and beat him to a pulp. Prime then stole his [[fusion cannon]] and used it to destroy the satellite and smack Megatron across the jaw, defeating him and ending the battle. The Decepticon was disassembled, but unbeknownst to the victors, his remains were seized and experimented upon by the United States government. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A few years later, the human scientists had used Megatron&#039;s technology to create the [[Serpentor|Serpent Organic Robot]], a synthetic creature that combined the personalities of several of [[Earth]]&#039;s most famous warmongers and Megatron. After being prematurely activated by Cobra Commander, Serpent O.R. flashbacked to a memory of Megatron&#039;s imprisonment and attacked the Cobra leader. He then plugged himself into Soundwave&#039;s deactivated head and learned the history of the Transformers, subsequently considering himself the son of Megatron. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron and the other Decepticons were unintentionally revived by [[Major Bludd]]. Bludd&#039;s leader, [[Cobra Commander]], used Megatron as a weapon of global conquest. Megatron took the opportunity to harvest energy from the conquered human establishments. To enforce Megatron&#039;s loyalty, the Commander was willing to use his possession of the [[Matrix]] as a weapon capable of causing Megatron great pain. Megatron eagerly awaited the Commander&#039;s death.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Cobra Commander&#039;s legs were crushed during Bruticus&#039;s rampage, Megatron suggested  the Commander use Megatron&#039;s gun mode as a means of killing himself to relieve the pain, but it was Baroness who was bold enough to fire the killing shot.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|I don&#039;t care why you fight to protect these people, this place, the old way. It must change. &#039;&#039;I will make it change.&#039;&#039;|Megatron to Sentinel Prime|&amp;quot;[[Megatron Origin issue 4]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Long ago, before the war, Megatron was an [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] miner, a member of the lower class, in [[Mine C-12]]. One day [[Decimus|Senator Decimus]] arrived at the mine to announce that the mine was being closed immediately and the workers would be relocated. However, one of the Senator&#039;s guards killed a worker for insubordination and claims of Senate corruption, which spurred Megatron into action. He attacked Senator Decimus and killed the guard in self-defense, and was shocked to find he had done so. He and the other miners were en route to imprisonment when [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] broke free and started a riot aboard [[Longshot|their ship]]. They escaped and made their way to [[Kaon]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 1}} &lt;br /&gt;
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After evading law enforcement, Megatron joined a team of underworld gladiators under the tutelage of [[Clench (G2)|Clench]]. Initially repulsed by killing his opponents, the games eventually turned him more brutal and excessive, and he took control of the entire operation from Clench. The opportunistic Senator [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], after seeing how much money there was in the underworld matches, sent his agent [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] to offer Megatron weaponry and technology to upgrade himself and his comrades. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 2}} [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]&#039;s Autobots were sent to investigate the gladiatorial games, but when two Autobots were personally killed by Megatron, Prime&#039;s forces stepped up their pursuit. Megatron used the gladiatorial games to drum up an army of violent malcontents and spread chaos throughout Cybertron. He then deliberately allowed Sentinel Prime&#039;s forces to capture his burgeoning army, {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3}} so that [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (pretending to defect) and Soundwave and his hidden cassette army could exterminate the Kaon Senate and then free every last prisoner. Megatron led the army of prisoners against the Autobots, beat Sentinel Prime nearly to death, and took control of Kaon. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Over time, the war between Megatron&#039;s Decepticon army and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]&#039;s Autobots covered the entire planet and soon beyond to the rest of the galaxy. Optimus grew to respect and fear Megatron as a calm, calculating and measured opponent, while Megatron himself respected Prime&#039;s sheer power and his skill as a tactician and as a leader. {{storylink|Escalation issue 5}} Megatron also constructed [[Sixshot]], a living weapon with frightening amounts of power that only he had the &amp;quot;off-switch&amp;quot; for. {{storylink|Devastation issue 5}} The conflict became so great that it created an impending energy crisis and threatened the stability of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] itself.  When [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] left Cybertron, secretly pursuing alternate energy sources, Megatron ordered [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] to investigate his files, secretly assigning Soundwave to investigate Bludgeon. {{storylink|Spotlight: Shockwave}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, a Decepticon scientist, [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]], came to Megatron with a revolutionary, controversial plan to stave off this energy death by [[Pretender|polydermal grafting]], a process where they encased themselves in &amp;quot;symbiotic carapaces,&amp;quot; or shells created from living tissue. When Megatron dismissed him angrily and cut him down, Thunderwing did not abandon his research, but instead experimented on himself. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 3}} As a result, Thunderwing became so powerful that Megatron had to join forces with Optimus Prime to stop him. This battle at [[Thunderhead Pass]] accelerated the apocalypse destined to befall Cybertron, leaving it an uninhabitable, radioactive husk and forcing both armies to continue their war on other worlds. Megatron advocated that they simply destroy Cybertron to ensure that Thunderwing was destroyed, but Prime refused, and threatened to stop Megatron if he tried. Megatron agreed not to destroy the planet, but warned Prime that whatever happened was on his head. Shortly after the last big push by the Decepticons, Cybertron was abandoned by both factions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seven hundred [[Units of time|stellar cycles]] later, in current times, it was discovered that as a result of digging through Shockwave&#039;s files, Bludgeon had resurrected Thunderwing&#039;s dangerous project, as well as Thunderwing himself. After being informed of Thunderwing&#039;s attack on [[Nebulos]], Megatron dispatched the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] in the &#039;&#039;[[Thanatos]]&#039;&#039; to Cybertron, authorizing [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] to do whatever was necessary to destroy Thunderwing, including the destruction of Cybertron. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 3}} However, Optimus Prime and the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]] were able to thwart both Bludgeon and Thunderwing, and so destruction of the planet was averted. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote|You will stand down. If you fight, you &#039;&#039;die&#039;&#039;. There is no room anymore for mercy. In the end, you are &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; expendable. Choose.|Megatron&#039;s ultimatum to Starscream&#039;s troops|&amp;quot;[[Infiltration issue 6]]&amp;quot;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron, meanwhile, was on Earth, investigating Starscream&#039;s infiltration team.  He discovered that Starscream had stumbled across [[Ore-13]], an incredible energy source which had been [[Spotlight: Shockwave|mysteriously seeded there]], and that the [[Air Commander]] was planning to use it to usurp Megatron&#039;s command — this annoyed him, as he had thought they were beyond such power games. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 4}} After seriously damaging the hesitantly rebellious [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]], {{storylink|Infiltration issue 5}} Megatron ordered the AWOL team to stand down and then took on a super-powered Starscream. Though the Ore-13 made Starscream a formidable adversary, Megatron was still more deadly than he, and Starscream was destroyed. All throughout, he acted eerily calm &amp;amp;amp; measured and made both Autobot and Decepticon wet themselves in fear. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Megatrong1idwgunbody.jpg|left|150px|thumb|I also wonder.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron took stock of Starscream&#039;s progress on Earth in light of the discovery of Ore-13, repaired Skywarp and Blitzwing, and made Starscream&#039;s former troops aware, in no uncertain terms, that any further insurrections would be met with deadly force. {{storylink|Escalation issue 1}} But instead of leaving Earth in the hands of a new commander, Megatron stayed to guide the second stage of the Decepticons&#039; plans, wishing to try out his new [[Size changing|mass-displacing]] handgun [[Alternate mode|altmode]] and the Ore-13 power. {{storylink|Escalation issue 2}} He personally took charge of the Decepticon subterfuge in [[Brasnya]], guiding the facsimile of [[Georgi Koska]] in an attempt to escalate an international incident into a full polarizing war, and acting as Koska&#039;s personal weapon. (His alt-mode only works when a human is holding and firing him, which left him at a disadvantage against the Autobots, who could simply pin him down in that form. Maybe Megs just wants to be held.) {{storylink|Escalation issue 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Optimus Prime arrived, Megatron transformed and started a full-blown to-the-death melee with his longtime foe for all the nuts and bolts - this surprised Optimus, who accused Megatron of letting the Ore-13 power go to his head and causing him to be &amp;quot;some raging braggart&amp;quot;. Even with his fusion cannon disabled almost right away, Megatron gained the upper hand due to his Ore-13 high. Beating his foe down, he squeezed Prime&#039;s spark casing and seemingly killed him; {{storylink|Escalation issue 5}} aghast, the Autobots moved into a full but ineffective counterattack, their only edge being that Megatron had no long-range guns left. However, Prime&#039;s death was a desperate ruse, and the Autobot leader countered with a surprise attack on Megatron, able to exploit Ore-13&#039;s weakness — the more it&#039;s used, the faster it burns itself out. Megatron almost collapsed from power loss and was forced to have Skywarp take him to safety before the Autobots could kill him. &lt;br /&gt;
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Upon returning to base and being refueled and repaired, Megatron was hopping mad.  Mad enough to prematurely call in his ultimate living weapon—[[Sixshot]]—despite [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]&#039;s panic attack on hearing that. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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During this time, he discovered a plot by [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] to overthrow him. Without saying a word, he beat the living [[Slag (slang)|slag]] out of the attempted traitor. {{storylink|Spotlight: Ramjet}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Upon Sixshot&#039;s arrival, Megatron ordered him to utterly destroy the Autobots, throwing out the methodical &amp;quot;Phase&amp;quot; strategy. The other Decepticons were worried that Megatron was losing his grip - and since they were too scared to tell him that, they decided to revive Starscream to do it for them. {{storylink|Devastation issue 1}} Before Sixshot could obliterate the Autobots, Megatron recalled him to deal with a new threat—the [[Reaper|Reapers]]. {{storylink|Devastation issue 4}} Megatron deduced that the other Decepticons betrayed him by awakening Starscream, but decided not to punish them &#039;&#039;&#039;yet&#039;&#039;&#039;, due to the present task of destroying the Reapers. {{storylink|Devastation issue 5}} After these foes were dead, Megatron was forced to accept Starscream and the others when it became clear the humans were aware of them now. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point between &#039;&#039;Devastation&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;AHM&#039;&#039;, the Autobots were led into a trap; false information was planted by an [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Autobot traitor]], and they were badly smashed up by the &#039;Cons and Devastator. Megatron planned to drop the Autobots into the midst of [[Insecticon swarm|three thousand horrendous things he had created]] on Cybertron. When all but Prime had gone throught the space bridge, Prime grabbed Blitzwing&#039;s gun and somehow saved the other Autobots from ceratin death, closing the portal. Optimus was critically injured by the space bridge, which fried his circuits. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}} This caused Starscream&#039;s status among the Decepticons and their concern about Megatron to go &#039;&#039;way&#039;&#039; down, with former dissenters like [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] becoming Megatron fanboys. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1}} By use of Sunstreaker&#039;s input with Starscream and Bombshell&#039;s experimentation on [[Hunter O&#039;Nion]], Megatron was able to defeat [[Omega Supreme (G1)|almost]] all the Autobots in the galaxy...&lt;br /&gt;
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A year after the defeat of Optimus, Megatron decided to take Earth and make it the new Decepticon homeworld. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6}} Using Sunstreaker, he led the Autobots into an ambush, defeating Optimus&#039; squad and banishing them to Cybertron to be food for the Swarm {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8}}, three thousand failed experiments, born during an attempt to create the Insecticons{{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}}. He arrived on the front lines as the Decepticons attacked [[New York]], humiliating Starscream by outdoing him in destroying things with just one shot from his fusion cannon. When the US Air Force responded with an F-22 squad, as a show of force Megatron had Soundwave disable the human&#039;s missile targeting, followed by the Decepticons just standing there shrugging off bullets before making their attack. After one jet was damaged by Skywarp, [[DJ (G1)|its pilot]] attempted to take out Megatron with a suicide run, but the Decepticon leader calmly swatted the incoming plane, causing it to explode. As flames rose from the wreckage, Megatron emerged, completely undamaged, laughing maniacally. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1}} Megatron continued to direct the Decepticon assault on New York, dispatching [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] to mop up the U.S. Army&#039;s ground forces and ordering the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] to combine into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and destroy the underwater tunnels leading out of the city. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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His plan executed flawlessly, the Decepticons continued their assault on the major cities of the United States, disabling or nullifying any attempt by the army or navy to counterattack.  As he surveyed his handiwork in New York, he ordered Hook and the Constructicons to begin building &#039;&#039;something&#039;&#039; in the once-great human city and appreciated their &amp;quot;sacrifice&amp;quot; in using &amp;quot;substandard&amp;quot; building materials. Soon thereafter he was joined by Starscream, with whom he had a heart to heart and revealed he believed Starscream to be the embodiment of the Decepticon cause, but that Starscream was blind to realizing this. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the humans had fallen, Megatron made a propaganda speech to his men in the ruins of New York. He heaped great praise on their efforts, both on Earth and across the galaxy, announcing they had finally crushed the Autobots for good. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 4}} After making this speech (and dispatching Ratbat to attack a small group of mercenaries led by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Commander Witwicky]]), Megatron entered one of the &amp;quot;buildings&amp;quot; to gaze at his newly prized possession... the Autobot Matrix of Leadership that he stole from Optimus. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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That praise turned out to be empty, as Starscream started noticing that Megatron didn&#039;t have a plan now victory had been achieved, and the smashy-smash fun on Earth was him trying to distract the troops - because now he had an army of evil sociopathic murderers with nothing to murder and a doctrine of taking power. Not even smashing up Israel made him feel better. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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With most of the Autobots in the galaxy defeated, Megatron chafed to end the war quickly. He demanded [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] track the last pocket of Autobot resistance down for the Decepticons. The mercenary demanded a majority share in all energon mining operations, a deal which outraged Megatron, until Mirage pointed out it was a small price to pay to end the war. After Optimus Prime surrendered, Megatron demanded the prisoners be executed despite Mirage&#039;s promise to spare Autobot lives. Seeing Mirage&#039;s hesitation, Megatron appealed to his greed. {{storylink|Spotlight: Mirage}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW &#039;&#039;[[Hearts of Steel]]&#039;&#039; continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
He is referred to (as a leader [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] wants to replace, big surprise), but does not appear. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====IDW &#039;&#039;Hearts of Steel&#039;&#039; Concept Art micro-continuity====&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron is depicted with three different altmodes: a giant cannon (with big studded wheels that become shoulder-shields), a 19th-century Colt revolver, possibly a [[wikipedia:Colt 1851 Navy Revolver|Colt 1851 Navy]], and another very similar revolver, with an anachronistic scope and a bulkier muzzle.  Since these altmodes have no place in the story, these sketches constitute a [[micro-continuity]] in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus]] and Megatron are active in the late 19th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Henkei! Henkei!&#039;&#039; pack-in comics===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 1|#1}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 2|#2}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 3|#3}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 7|#7}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Henkei! Henkei!&#039;&#039; Bun Bun manga===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Appears!}} {{storylink|Kingdom of Giants}} {{storylink|Optimus Prime&#039;s Secret}} {{storylink|Time of Resurrection}} {{storylink|Creation! The New Emperor of Destruction!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Alternity&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:To_die_game_begins.jpg|right|thumb|220px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Numerous incarnations of Megatron from throughout the [[multiverse]] were gathered together as the &amp;quot;[[Megatron Aggregate]]&amp;quot; under the leadership of [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Alternity|one particular incarnation]] who hailed from a universe where the Autobots had evolved into the hyperdimensional race known as the [[Alternity (species)|Alternity]]. Shackling the power of the trans-time god-beast [[Hytherion]], this Megatron conveyed time-and-space-manipulating powers similar to those of the Alternity upon himself as his different iterations, forging them into one cross-dimensional gestalt-consciousness entity. To battle the Alternity across time and space, the Megatrons copied their methods, projecting their consciousnesses into [[auto-avatar]]s. The Megatron responsible for the scheme took control of a &amp;quot;Premium Le Mans Blue&amp;quot; style auto-avatar, while his first known ally (from an unidentified dimension) possessed a &amp;quot;Silver Blade&amp;quot; body.&lt;br /&gt;
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The third identified member of the Megatron Aggregate hailed from [[universal stream]] [[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy|Primax 1286:3 Kappa]]. In a &amp;quot;Diamond Black&amp;quot; auto-avatar body, he engaged in battle with &amp;quot;Ultimate Silver&amp;quot; Optimus Prime across two [[universal stream]]s, striking at him from the year 2009. This Megatron was amused when Prime deduced that he had an ulterior motive for operating in that year, and so made him a wager: if he could defeat him in a game of his own choosing, he would answer a question honestly. Megatron proposed manipulating the inhabitants of his home universe in a &amp;quot;game full of death and suffering&amp;quot;, and infused a portion of his power through a legion of Decepticons (including his own past self) to be pitted against Prime&#039;s lone chosen champion, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. {{storylink|To Die Game!}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|Alternity beings are both individuals and a collective of separate entities. More fiction about Megatron&#039;s Alternity collective can be found [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Alternity|here]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commercial appearances==&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron featured in quite a few [[commercial]]s, mostly advertising other toys:&lt;br /&gt;
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* He appears in the very first Transformers animation, a commercial announcing the upcoming 1984 comic book. He lands amid a battle on Earth and fires his cannon at incoming Autobots.   This appearance uses his pre-cartoon design, with the black helmet and triggered cannon.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Footage from that commercial, as well as the show&#039;s opening credits, was recycled into an early ad for the toyline.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the ad for [[Coleco]]&#039;s [[Power Cycle]], Megatron and the Decepticons are raiding a &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;jungle gym&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; power plant. This footage is recycled from the advertisement for the first issue of the comic, and features Megatron&#039;s early &amp;quot;black helmet&amp;quot; model.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The footage from the first issue of the comic was recycled again for the [[rubsign]] ad.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Megatron attempts to hijack a load of shoes in a South American ad for [[Bata]]&#039;s licensed &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; footwear. He is stopped when a pair of said shoes deflect his fusion cannon blast right back at him. No, really.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the middle of a desert battle, Megatron summons Thrust and Dirge, in response to Optimus Prime bringing in like half a dozen new guys.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Megatron, in his Action Master body, is seen in a base futilely trying to grab a pair of [[Micromaster Combiner]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron&#039;s voice, provided by Frank Welker, has narrated numerous commercials, including:&lt;br /&gt;
* The Constructicons&lt;br /&gt;
* Rubsigns&lt;br /&gt;
* Sharkticons (strange!)&lt;br /&gt;
* Wreck-Gar (stranger!)&lt;br /&gt;
* Galvatron (stranger still!)&lt;br /&gt;
* Stunticons&lt;br /&gt;
* Combaticons&lt;br /&gt;
* Trypticon&lt;br /&gt;
* Predacons&lt;br /&gt;
* Battlechargers&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Mystery of Convoy&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Megatron appeared on a viewscreen to taunt [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] in a room in stage 6. After getting through the maze-like stage 9, Magnus challenged and defeated the Decepticon leader, who for some reason was roughly the size of a [[combiner]]. {{storylink|Mystery of Convoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Beast Wars: Transmetals&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
After defeating both the [[Maximal]]s and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] on ancient Earth, [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] entered the &#039;&#039;[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]&#039;&#039; and used a prototype [[transreplication]] device to create clones of the dormant Decepticons within. The Megatron clone, equipped with all the memories and personality functions of the original, then followed Ravage back to his future in order to conquer it. {{storylink|Beast Wars: Transmetals}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Call of the Future&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Transformers: Call of the Future}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; - The Game===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_G1Megatron_DLC.jpg|thumb|250px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039;[[Frank Welker]]&lt;br /&gt;
====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Note|On [[August 27]], [[2009]], Megatron was one of a handful of downloadable characters in a DLC pack for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3.  Seeing as he&#039;s just a skin of Jet Megatron, he is only playable in singe player in the final mission. }}&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: War for Cybertron&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Megatron (G1)/toys}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
* Early in the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; series preproduction, Megatron&#039;s look was based not on the toy, but on concept art for an unproduced prototype version. This early version, sporting a different, black head, a very different scope/fusion cannon, and the gun&#039;s barrel on his back, managed to make its way into not only early [[commercial]] animation and licensed material, but into the art of the early Marvel Comics. Though the model was altered before the animated series was produced, elements from the first model were perpetuated such as the back-mounted barrel in both the comic and the cartoon. The Marvel Comics continued to color Megatron&#039;s helmet black (well, blue) until the end of its run.&lt;br /&gt;
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Image:Earlymegatron.jpg|The [[fusion cannon]]&#039;s got that handle because... well, we&#039;re not sure.&lt;br /&gt;
Image:P-Megatron.jpg|Microman Megatron&#039;s concept model. Back then, he was a little less happy to see you.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:MegatronOrigin2 Megs hair.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Megatron sincerely hopes that you do not remember this.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The name &amp;quot;Megatron&amp;quot; was originally used by Marvel Comics for &#039;&#039;another&#039;&#039; robot that appeared long before the Transformers toyline came about, in issue 18 of the &#039;&#039;Shogun Warriors&#039;&#039; series (written by Doug Moench, art by Herb Trimpe, released in July 1980)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix2/droneracecharter.htm#Megatron Megatron and the &amp;quot;Drones&amp;quot; from Marvel&#039;s &#039;&#039;Shogun Warriors&#039;&#039; comic at the Appendix to the Handbook of the Marvel Universe]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. [[Bob Budiansky]] stated in an interview that the name &amp;quot;Megatron&amp;quot; is a portmanteau derived from &amp;quot;Megaton&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Electronic&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.alteredstatesmag.com/features/qanda/bbudiansky_2.php ASM - Your Future Nostalgia. Today]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He suggested the name &amp;quot;Megatron&amp;quot; for the Transformers line (it&#039;s unclear if he was aware of the existing Marvel character, though as an editor it seems likely that he at least had a subconscious memory of it) but [[Hasbro]] initially rejected it, claiming that &amp;quot;mega&amp;quot; conjured images of nuclear bombs.  Budiansky reminded them that the name was supposed to sound evil, because he&#039;s the leader of the bad guys.  Hasbro responded, &amp;quot;Oh, right,&amp;quot; and then approved the name. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.alteredstatesmag.com/features/qanda/bbudiansky_2.php ASM: A Little Q&amp;amp;amp;A with... Bob Budiansky]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the UK comics, [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] explains that Megatron is the equivalent of a &#039;blueblood,&#039; possessing some royal lineage.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Letters page (Marvel UK)]] #227&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* After his fight with Optimus Prime in the [[The Transformers: The Movie|1986 animated movie]], Megatron appears to have energon leaking from his eyes and mouth. Either that or he&#039;s been crying, which seems unlikely.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In [[Megatron Origin issue 2]], we see that Megatron&#039;s helmet is, in fact, a helmet and not part of his head (at least in this continuity). Upon removing his helmet, Megatron then briefly unfurls a crest. The significance of this moment is not explained, nor is it ever revisited. Thankfully.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Megatron [[Gone but Not Forgotten!|once]] crushed [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]&#039;s head with his bare hands! &lt;br /&gt;
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*Some [[Canada|Québecquers]] loved his shiny body so much they named their postal service after him. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.megatron.net/quebec/ Megatron Dot Net Forward Slash Quebec.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*When Megatron transforms into gun mode, he [[Size changing|shrinks]] to a size where he can be held by either a human or fellow Transformer. He generally requires someone to aim and fire for him. This is in contrast to Shockwave who does not size change and can fly about, aim, and fire for himself. The reasons Megatron chooses to Transform instead of simply using his fusion cannon are not entirely clear, but one could probably assume his gun-mode firepower is more concentrated or in some other way more powerful.&lt;br /&gt;
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*There are some exceptions to the statement above. In the episode &amp;quot;[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]&amp;quot;, Megatron does not shrink and instead attaches himself to Starscream&#039;s jet-mode undercarriage. In the episode &amp;quot;[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3]]&amp;quot;, he floats in the air and takes a shot at Skyfire unassisted.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Megatron/megatron.htm Megatron at TFU.info]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;amp;amp;char=Megatron Megatron&#039;s Universe profile at NTFA.net]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.transformers-universe.com/popup.php?img=content/images/galerie/pics/44/4417_Megatron_DreamwaveProfile1.jpg Page 1,] [http://www.transformers-universe.com/popup.php?img=content/images/galerie/pics/44/4418_Megatron_DreamwaveProfile2.jpg 2 and] [http://www.transformers-universe.com/popup.php?img=content/images/galerie/pics/44/4419_Megatron_DreamwaveProfile3.jpg 3 of Megatron&#039;s MTMTE profile at Transformers-universe.com]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/4539/37/|e-HOBBY Megatron Black Version Manga and Profile Translation at the Allspark / TF Pulp]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Optimus Prime (G1)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Dinoman96: Uh, no. you can play as him in singeplayer. Movie Prime needs to be there though, because G1 Prime is a skin.&lt;/p&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime is the leader of the [[Autobot]]s from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Optimusg1.jpg|right|350px|thumb|I&#039;m that guy everyone remembers. No, not the [[Soundwave (G1)|tape guy]], the other guy.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; is the awe-inspiring [[Prime (rank)|leader]] of the [[Autobot]] forces. Originally a mere civilian, he was chosen by the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] to command, the first in a number of heavy burdens he has been forced to bear. Another is his bringing of the Transformers&#039; conflict to Earth. The complete opposite of his mortal enemy [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], every casualty, [[human]] or [[Transformer|Cybertronian]], weighs heavily on his [[spark]]. He does not show this side to his soldiers, and he never succumbs to despair. The Autobots need a decisive, charismatic leader, and that is what he gives them. It was that leadership which turned the tide of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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On the battlefield, there are few who rival Optimus Prime&#039;s prowess. He is easily the strongest of any Autobot his [[Scale|size]], and his [[ion blaster]] and his [[energon-axe]] are deadly weapons. He would sacrifice his life to protect his fellow Autobots or those under their care, and [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|does so on a regular basis]]. His compassion for other sentient beings is his only real weakness, and one the Decepticons have taken advantage of time and again... though it&#039;s also the source of his strength!&lt;br /&gt;
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Prime carries within him the [[Matrix of Leadership]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Before being rebuilt into a [[Powermaster]] his robot mode split into three components:&lt;br /&gt;
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*A sentient robot module, the [[Brain Center]].&lt;br /&gt;
*A wheeled drone module known as [[Roller]].&lt;br /&gt;
*A [[Combat Deck]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Although Optimus Prime can function as three independent modules, injury to any one module is felt by the other two.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|Freedom is the right of all sentient beings.|Optimus Prime&#039;s most common [[bio]] quote}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Japanese name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Convoy&#039;&#039;&#039; (コンボイ)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Japanese name (Laser Rod):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Battle Convoy&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;French-Canadian &amp;amp; Czech name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Primus&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Hungarian name (The Movie):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimusz Fővezér&#039;&#039;&#039; / &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimusz Prájm&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Optimus Chief&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Italian name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Commander&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Portuguese name (Portugal comics):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Optimus Supremo&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Optimus Supreme&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Portuguese name (Brazil cartoon):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Líder Optimus&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Leader Optimus&amp;quot;), sometimes Optimus Prime&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Portuguese name (Brazil comics):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Supremus Absolutus&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Russian name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Оптимус Прайм&#039;&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;Optimus Prime&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Taiwanese name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Tīh-ghŭ&#039;&#039;&#039; (鐵牛, literally &amp;quot;Iron Ox&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Iron Bull&amp;quot;, a kind of vehicle in early days and rural area)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Chinese name (Taiwan):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Jr-tsūn&#039;&#039;&#039; (至尊, &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Cantonese name:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;O Baak Man&#039;&#039;&#039; (柯柏文)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Chinese name (China):&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Qing Tian Zhu&#039;&#039;&#039; (擎天柱, &amp;quot;Pillar that Supports the Sky&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===Marvel Comics continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CommandPerformances-Autobotsattack.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Don&#039;t worry, the multiple crises of conscience come soon enough.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime was a gladiator champion for [[Iacon]] before quickly working his way up the Autobot ranks once [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] started the war.  Four million years ago, when Decepticons attacked the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], he personally chose to crash it onto [[Earth]], a decision that caused him much remorse when the war restarted on Earth in the modern day.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Though Optimus allowed himself to be destroyed when he betrayed his own moral code while playing a video game, a copy of his mind survived on a [[floppy disk]].  Years later, he was restored as a [[Powermaster]], binary bonded to the [[Nebulan]], [[Hi-Q]].  Optimus Prime slowly earned the respect of Decepticon leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], mourned the loss of his friend [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], and ultimately sacrificed everything to defeat [[Unicron]].  Though Optimus died again, his mind persisted in Hi-Q, and the [[Last Autobot]] was able to restore him as an [[Action Master]] in time to bring a temporary end to the war.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Generation 2 (Marvel Comics)|one universe]], Optimus Prime went on to battle [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]], his [[Cybertronian Empire]], and the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]]. In [[Classics (2006)|another]], fifteen years of peace passed before Megatron rose again.  &lt;br /&gt;
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===S.T.A.R.S. pack-in flyers===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:PackIn RodimusPrimeRemembers Inside2.jpg|right|thumb|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Autobots were outnumbered and outgunned on Earth from the start, though Optimus was confident (and correct) that reinforcements from Cybertron would arrive. {{storylink|Reinforcements from Cybertron!}} &lt;br /&gt;
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However, the situation was still so desperate that Optimus not only decided to recruit human allies {{storylink|The battle is far from over!}}, but aggressively tried to recruit and &#039;&#039;deputise&#039;&#039; human children, including giving them the power to co-ordinate Autobot teams in battles. He wouldn&#039;t even make a final move on the Decepticons until he had enough child soldiers on his side. {{storylink|Earthlings: THE S.T.A.R.S. need your help now!}} {{storylink|Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?}} In at least one case, this likely led to the &#039;&#039;death&#039;&#039; of a small boy at Decepticon hands. {{storylink|Can one boy, alone, hold back the evil Decepticons?}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus later led a convoy in search for a building site for [[Autobot City]], which ran into a Decepticon ambush. {{storylink|Rodimus Prime remembers the Transformers greatest battle on Earth.}} He sent off several Autobots to get help, knowing this was the only chance of victory. {{storylink|Transformers Combat Data}} Those several Autobots were seen again, but Prime... wasn&#039;t.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Mtmte2_shermandam.jpg|left|250px|thumb|He had this ax once.  It was very memorable.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the war, Optimus Prime was originally &#039;&#039;&#039;Orion Pax&#039;&#039;&#039;, a young dock worker with a girlfriend named [[Elita One|Ariel]].  But as the war began, Megatron destroyed them both, and [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] rebuilt them into more powerful warriors.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Four million years ago, Optimus Prime ended a Decepticon attack on the Ark by directing it towards prehistoric Earth.  When both factions reawakened in 1984, Optimus Prime and the Autobots fought the Decepticons on numerous occasions until 2005.  During an attack on [[Autobot City]] on Earth, Prime fell in battle against Megatron and passed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime eventually returned, once as a [[zombie]], and again when he was rebuilt by the [[Quintesson]]s to stop the spread of the [[Hate Plague]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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The details between these events differ between universes.  Sometimes Optimus Prime merged with [[Vector Sigma]] soon after defeating the Hate Plague, and returned much, much later as Star Convoy.  Sometimes Optimus Prime partnered up with [[Marissa Faireborn]] to receive upgrades through mutual [[kiss]]ing.  Sometimes... look, he did a lot of weird stuff, okay?&lt;br /&gt;
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===Kid Stuff Talking Story Books===&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime is a &amp;quot;metallic nemesis&amp;quot;. Megatron said so.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Big Looker Story Books===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:KidsPrime1.jpg|right|150px|thumb|And the fluffy kitten played with that yarn all gosh-darn night.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When a two-part race was being held with a massive supply of oil and gasoline as the prize, both the Decepticons and the Autobots badly wanted to win it. Megatron entered the race by hiding himself inside a hollowed-out car and harassed [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] all throughout the contest. When Prime discovered the car was being driven by his arch foe, he swiftly pulled a telephone pole out from the ground and used it to bash the mortal hell out of the cheating Decepticon. Thanks to Prime&#039;s violent intervention, Cliffjumper was able to win the race. Afterward, Optimus Prime celebrated the Minibot&#039;s victory with a gargantuan smile as all the Decepticons starved to death. {{storylink|The Great Car Rally}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Ladybird Books continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image: Ladybird_prime_transforms.jpg|left|thumb|250px|The ghost of Optimus Prime possesses...himself?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Upon witnessing the incredible power of a lightning storm for the first time, Optimus Prime had Sparkplug Witwicky explain the phenomenon to him. Intrigued by the potential of lightning, Prime put [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] and [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] to work finding a way to harness its energy, so they could use it to aid in the rebuilding of their spaceship. Huffer constructed a giant lightning rod, and Optimus Prime and the Autobots gathered to watch its first test. They were shocked, however, when a fleet of battered, damaged Decepticons flew out of the mountain housing the antenna and off into the night. The evil robots had attempted to discover the device&#039;s secrets and been seriously electrocuted! Once the lightning rod had been checked, Prime vowed to make the lightning-harnessing technology the Autobots&#039; gift to Earth once they had left the planet. {{storylink|Autobots&#039; Lightning Strike}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the Decepticons tried to take control of a solar energy station, Prime sent Roller into to investigate. {{storylink|Megatron&#039;s Fight for Power}} Later, Prime sent [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to spy on the Decepticons&#039; latest misdeeds, and the Autobots discovered that they were having trouble with the ion drive of their starship. Prime led the Autobots in an attack on the mine the Decepticons were using to test their propulsion system and routed Megatron&#039;s force. {{storylink|Autobots Fight Back}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime grew concerned when [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] picked up a communication from [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] that indicated the Decepticons had grown interested in a mysterious structure near a human village. Prime and a team of Autobots headed out to investigate, and they battled the Decepticons over the structure, which turned out to be a harmless windmill. {{storylink|Laserbeak&#039;s Fury}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Ladybird_powermaster_prime.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Invisible keyboard solo!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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At some point, Optimus Prime disappeared under mysterious circumstances, and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived from Cybertron to take his place as Autobot commander. {{storylink|Galvatron&#039;s Air Attack}} Prime eventually returned many centuries later, now sporting a [[Powermaster]] body, and rejoined the Transformers&#039; war after it had moved from Earth to the alien planet of [[Nebulos]].&lt;br /&gt;
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When [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] was captured by the Decepticon leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], Optimus Prime agreed to surrender himself to ensure his fellow Autobot&#039;s safety. Naturally, though, Prime did not expect Scorponok to hold up his end of the bargain, and he had [[Hosehead]] and [[Fizzle]] rescue Highbrow while he allowed himself to be imprisoned. Their mission successful, Hosehead and Fizzle then sprang Prime from his cell, and the team beat a hasty retreat. {{storylink|Autobot Hostage}} &lt;br /&gt;
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After weeks of Decepticon silence, Optimus Prime decided to get proactive and sent out patrols all over the planet to try and flush the villains out. None of the patrols reported back with any success, however, and Prime realized that there was one area of the planet that his troops had deliberately ignored: the mysterious &amp;quot;[[Nebulos Triangle]]&amp;quot;. [[Quickswitch]], [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]] and [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]] were sent into the Triangle, and they did indeed discover and foil the Decepticon plot going on in the area. {{storylink|Decepticons Underground}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:PDtype-Matrixattack.jpg|left|thumb|250px|This is the highlight of this entire page.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When a horde of time-displaced Decepticons joined forces to hunt down the five [[Blackball]]s, a super energy source, Optimus Prime gathered a team of time-displaced Autobots to help stop them.&lt;br /&gt;
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In one encounter with his arch-foe [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], they reenacted their epic struggle from the [[Battle of Autobot City]]. However, this time around, Prime avoided dying by launching his &amp;quot;Matrix Attack&amp;quot;...&#039;&#039;literally&#039;&#039; launching the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] from his chest, bonking Megatron on the head. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|You&#039;re Great! Optimus Prime!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Optimus Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] concocted a cunning strategy. They disguised a round, black cartoon explosive as a Blackball and gave it to [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Starscream promptly brought it to Megatron, where it blew both of them up. Optimus and Magnus were astounded their plan actually worked. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|Don&#039;t Cry! Megatron!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In one of his less impressive moments, after running out of ammo during a battle with [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], Optimus Prime ordered his fellow Autobots to improvise and hurl everything that wasn&#039;t nailed down at their enemy. This included the Blackball, unfortunately. Catching it, Deathsaurus began to fantasize about his inevitable galactic conquest, all the while being pelted with rocks and litter. Frustrated, Deathsaurus accidentally hurled the Blackball back to the Autobots in a fit of rage. {{storylink|Transformer PD Type|Good Job! Deathsaurus!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:G2Hero.jpg|right|200px|thumb|GAH, HE&#039;S LOOKING AT ME!]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the year 199X, the Decepticons had learned of a powerful new energy source known as [[forestonite]] which just happened to be located (surprise surprise) on [[Earth]]. Megatron sent his trio of [[Cyberjet]]s to Earth first to draw out the enemy Autobots. The Cyberjets made quick work of [[Electro]] but were soon halted by the appearance of Optimus Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron then entered the fray and fired his Black Hole Burn attack from his fusion cannon, narrowly missing Optimus Prime but vaporizing [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]] in the process. Prime fought fiercely but Megatron began to take the upper-hand in battle.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, Prime was encouraged to keep fighting by the cheers of a human boy named [[Junpei]]. Megatron, surprised at Prime&#039;s resilience, attempted to finish his foe off with his Tornado Axe attack. Prime countered with his Double Wheel-Torque Mega-Ton, which trumped Megatron&#039;s attack and injured the Decepticon badly. Megatron teleported back to his ship and left Earth&#039;s atmosphere, vowing to return.&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime addressed Junpei, asking if the boy was injured. Junpei revealed he was alright but presented concern about the Decepticons returning to Earth. Optimus Prime swore that the Autobots would remain on Earth until the threat of the Decepticons was finished and asked for Junpei&#039;s help in making that future a reality. {{storylink|The New Battle!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:G1Prime BWMegs.jpg|left|180px|thumb|You have to get up preeeeetty early in the timestream to beat Optimus Prime!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] raged on prehistoric Earth, eventually leading to the discovery of the buried Ark sometime after its crash on prehistoric Earth. [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], following [[Megatron (G1)|his namesake&#039;s]] instructions in a desperate gambit, decided to attempt to change history by killing Prime, who was still lying in the Ark in [[stasis lock]]. Megatron hoped that this would result in the Decepticons winning the Great War and eventually [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] control of Cybertron. Megatron unleashed a full-power weapon blast at Optimus Prime&#039;s face, near-fatally injuring him. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}} However, [[Optimus Primal]] proceeded to take Prime&#039;s spark into his body to protect it from surgical trauma while his injuries were repaired. The subsequent power increase caused by Prime&#039;s spark&#039;s connection to the Matrix mutated Primal into a large, [[Transmetal]] &amp;quot;Optimal Optimus&amp;quot; form. Then, with the repairs complete, Prime&#039;s spark was restored, and he briefly activated before sinking back into normal stasis. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Sometime after the Autobots and Decepticons awoke in the 1980s, the original Megatron gained access to one of Earth&#039;s &#039;&#039;Voyager&#039;&#039; spacecraft and inscribed a message on the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|disk]] on board. In the event that he lost the War, Megatron left instructions for the descendants of the Decepticons to use [[transwarp]] technology to travel to Prehistoric Earth, locate the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], and change history by killing Optimus Prime. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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An enormous statue of Optimus Prime, bearing two [[Golden Disk (disambiguation)|Golden Disks]], could be seen on Cybertron in front of the Hall of Archives. The statue was subsequently blown to pieces by the [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon forces]]. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}} Later, Megatron beamed a hologram of Optimus Prime down to the ruins of [[Iacon]] to confront [[Optimus Primal]]. Primal mistook the hologram for the real thing and shared with it the code for the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]]. Megatron quickly revealed his ruse. Primal explained to his Maximals that he knew the image was fake, but he needed the location of the missing [[spark]]s from Megatron&#039;s mind. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Sparkholderprimevaldawn.jpg|left|190px|thumb|&amp;quot;Oh, I also have this in me now, too.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[Great War]], Optimus Prime disappeared with other legends into the mysterious location on Cybertron dubbed [[J&#039;nwan]].  When the warlord [[Shokaract]], powered by [[Unicron]]&#039;s [[Dark Essence]], traveled into the past to secure his own future, a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] named [[Sandstorm (BW)|Sandstorm]] traversed the confusing mists of J&#039;nwan to seek out its occupants to help.  Sandstorm prevailed and brought Optimus, Megatron, Soundwave, and Grimlock with him to prehistoric Earth during the time of the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] where a battle with Shokaract had already begun.  When Sandstorm (secretly Scorpius) and the rest of the [[Covenant]] arrived to vanquish the Dark Essence and defeat Shokaract, Optimus Prime and the others escaped through portals as that timeline was paradoxed from existence.  {{storylink|Terminus}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Beast Wars had ended and the Maximals and Predacons that survived it had headed home, the Vok entered the Ark and removed the Matrix of Leadership from an unconscious Optimus Prime.  They used it to create [[Primal Prime]], and then gave the Matrix to their new creation. {{storylink|Primeval Dawn Part 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As the [[Universe (2003)|Universe conflict]] began, [[Optimus Primal]] was shown a myriad of Transformers from across all timelines that he could choose to recruit into his [[Children of Primus]] in the battle against the [[Minions of Unicron]].  One such possibility was a Transformer who was either [[Thunder Clash]] or Optimus Prime, but, regardless, Primal chose [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox instead]].    &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:CheetasManga1.jpg|right|100px|thumb|Cheetor, that&#039;s Prime&#039;s Spark, not a toy.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime was blasted into pieces by Dragon Megatron. Fortunately, his spark remained perfectly intact—in the remains of his [[Optimal Situation|Matrix-shaped spark chamber]]. Megatron was going to destroy Prime&#039;s spark, but [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (now in his Transmetal body) saved it. Prime&#039;s spark was eventually swallowed by Optimus Primal, who was upgraded into Optimal Optimus by doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
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After passing the Matrix to Ultra Magnus and expiring in the aftermath of the [[battle of Autobot City]], Optimus Prime found himself in [[Maccadam&#039;s Old Oil House]].  There he encountered Optimus Primal and another [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] from a [[Unicron Trilogy|different universe]].  Together, the four of them overcame the other Optimus Prime&#039;s doubts about his leadership, before returning to their respective time lines. {{storylink|Prime Spark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Optronix optimus.jpg|left|180px|thumb|What? OPTRONIX is evolving!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime started life as &#039;&#039;&#039;Optronix&#039;&#039;&#039; (Orion to his friends&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The [[Keepers Trilogy]] novels set in Dreamwave continuity&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), a data archivist. After taking note of a battle in which the Autobot leader [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] had been defeated by Megatron, he was summoned to the council of elders and informed that the Matrix had chosen him to be the next leader of the Autobots. He received the Matrix of Leadership shortly thereafter, gaining a powerful new body in the process.  After dispatching a Decepticon assassination squad sent to, well, assassinate him, he ordered the Autobots to prepare to evacuate Cybertron, intending to leave the Decepticons to their own devices. {{storylink|The War Within issue 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As he and Prowl discussed the wisdom of evacuating, a huge explosion obliterated the [[Forum of Enlightenment]].  Optimus lead a team there, realising that the destruction was a message from Megatron.  Leaving his team, he ventured underground, encountering [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]], who blasted him into a pit. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2}} Exploring the underground, Prime had a strange vision of a transparent version of himself, which warned that he must grasp Cybertron&#039;s significance.  Then he was attacked by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]]s, whom he was able to easily best.  As Optimus encountered [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] in person for the first time, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] blasted the bridge they were standing on, plunging them into yet another chasm. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3}} Recovering, Prime heard another disembodied voice telling him about Cybertron.  Before he could look for a way out, Megatron found him, and informed him about the true nature of the Matrix.  This spurred Optimus to fight back, but before long, Megatron took control of the battle, smashing his fist into Prime&#039;s chest to get at the Matrix.  A blaze of light enveloped the pair, who found themselves abruptly on 20th century [[Earth]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As Megatron explained that the Matrix was giving them a vision of the future, they witness themselves battling on [[Sherman Dam]].  The nature of their surroundings established, Megatron resumed the scheduled beating, but a series of setting shifts ended with Optimus reunited with [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]].  Grimlock handed Prime a sword and suggested he finish Megatron for good. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5}} Optimus found Megatron again, engaging him in combat and announcing that he was playing the game by Megatron&#039;s rules now — without mercy. A short time later, he joined the other Autobots in attacking the Decepticons who were trying to use Cybertron&#039;s giant engines.  Grimlock was finally impressed with Prime.  They arrived back at [[Iacon]] to find it destroyed, but Optimus announced they were no longer evacuating the planet and threw away the [[Golden Disk (council)|Golden Disk]] full of the knowledge of his predecessors which the council had given him, saying he would choose his own course. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the awakening of the Transformers on Earth, the Autobots protected the planet from the Decepticons. Over the next fifteen years, the Autobots befriended the humans, particularly the [[Witwicky|Witwicky family]]. The Autobots finally allied with humankind and eventually defeated the Decepticons at the turn of the century. They planned to return to Cybertron aboard the newly constructed &#039;&#039;[[Ark II]]&#039;&#039;, along with seven humans, including Witwicky patriarch [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]]. Before the ship departed, Prime gave a piece of the Matrix to [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]], Sparkplug&#039;s son and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]&#039;s closest human friend. But the ship was destroyed as part of a military conspiracy to take control of the Transformers. However, a terrorist organization run by the enigmatic [[Lazarus]] was able to seize control of several of the Transformers that fell back to Earth, while the U.S. military located Prime&#039;s body. Spike was forced by the product chief, General [[Robert Hallo]], to use the piece of the Matrix to reactivate Prime. Functional again, Prime used the Matrix to reactivate more of his fallen comrades, and then faced off against Megatron in [[San Francisco]]. {{storylink|Prime Directive}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following this, Prime began to experience subconscious urgings, leading both the Autobots and the Decepticons to the Arctic Circle, where Shockwave arrived to greet them—and arrest them as war criminals. Shockwave had succeeded in ending the war on Cybertron, but Prime soon fell in with a rebel Autobot group that had discovered Shockwave had a greater agenda. Rallying Autobots across Cybertron to the cause, Prime faced Shockwave in battle but was defeated and had the Matrix ripped from him and used to activate Vector Sigma. Before Shockwave could make full use of the mega-computer&#039;s data, however, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and bested him. The injuries Prime took in this conflict necessitated a prolonged restoration period in stasis. {{storylink|War and Peace}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GIJoevsTFcobraprime.jpg|right|275px|thumb|G.1. Joe—the real universal hero!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Several Autobots and Decepticons, including Optimus Prime, were reformatted into will-less war machines under the control of [[Cobra]]. During an initial attack on a human peace conference, Cobra&#039;s remote control of Optimus (whom they had nicknamed &amp;quot;HISS-14&amp;quot;) mysteriously failed. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue #1}} Later at Cobra&#039;s [[Cobra Island|island headquarters]] in the Caribbean, Cobra scientists pulled Optimus apart to find out what was impeding their commands. As this analysis took place, Optimus reverse hacked into Cobra computers until they shut him down in a panic. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #2}} Despite this, Prime sent a viral message out to hundreds of email addresses that included the coordinates of Cobra&#039;s base. The message was intercepted by [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] who teamed up with Wheeljack and Bumblebee. After Wheeljack broke the remote control over the Transformers, Prime went after [[Cobra Commander]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #3}} More than a bit frightened of a giant robot gunning for him, the human released Megatron, who was trapped in gun model. Megatron transformed and fought Prime to a standstill until other Autobots came to back him up. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Although he was weak and low on [[Energon (fuel)|energon]], Prime made a last-ditch effort to save the day when he rammed through the wall of Megatron&#039;s energon-producing lab. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #5}} After a quick recharge, Optimus single-handedly smashed the Decepticons, pounded Megatron to the ground, and ripped his [[fusion cannon]] off his arm. Prime then teamed up with the Joes and used Megatron&#039;s cannon to shoot down the [[SPS Satellite]] that had gone rogue and was destroying the island.&lt;br /&gt;
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With the battle over, Prime and the Autobots boarded a new &#039;&#039;[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]&#039;&#039; ship built by G.I. Joe and returned to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 6|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:GIJoevstfIIprime1930s.jpg|left|275px|thumb|Retro Convoy: TRANSFORM!!!]]&lt;br /&gt;
On a Cybertron dominated by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the Decepticons, Optimus Prime and the Autobots took on the roles of resistance fighters. Cobra experimentation transported a contingent of Cobras and G.I. Joes to Cybertron and destabilized [[Teletran 3]], which led to the computer sending several Transformers to [[Earth]] across different time periods. When Optimus Prime saw Jazz get zapped by Teletran 3, he leapt to rescue his soldier, only to be transported away as well. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #1}} A team made up of Joes and Cobra agents were sent back and found Optimus Prime and the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] in 1930s-era Chicago, disguised as period cars and trucks. The Stunticons chased Prime and the Joes around the city until everything was wrapped up with bullets, a collapsed bridge and some dynamite. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the Transformers and humans were returned to present-day Cybertron and the Decepticons were vanquished by the recently-arrived [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], Prime made an agreement with the Joes to destroy the technology that started the whole mess in order to protect Earth. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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On Cybertron, Optimus Prime kicked back to do a little bit of paperwork and reminisce. With Shockwave defeated, Cybertron was enjoying a new era of peace. He was interrupted by Hot Rod, who reported that a group of &amp;quot;pesky humans with their peashooters&amp;quot; were giving an Autobot team on Earth a hard time. Prime suspected Cobra&#039;s involvement and counseled Hot Rod not to be so dismissive of the humans. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 1|The Art of War #1}} When the team returned to Cybertron and mysteriously vanished in the [[Gladiator Zone]], Prime was prepared to go search for them, but was convinced by Hot Rod to stay behind and organize a peace ceremony. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 2|The Art of War #2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, at the peace celebration, Prime was watching a procession of Autobots when Decepticons attacked. Optimus ordered [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] into action but the huge Autobot was quickly overcome by [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]] and [[Predaking]]. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}} Prime hopped into the fray, saved a female Autobot from getting smushed by the falling Omega, rode [[Sixshot]] into Piranacon&#039;s face, smashed [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] into the ground, and carried a wounded Autobot out of danger. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Primevsserpentor.jpg|right|175px|thumb|Serpent O.R. soon realized that &amp;quot;This I command!&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t work on Optimus Prime.]] &lt;br /&gt;
Menasor cut off Prime&#039;s escape and handed him the [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] trio, who confronted Prime with a hologram of [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] The new Decepticon leader carried Megatron&#039;s memories and information downloaded from Soundwave, from which he learned of the Matrix of Leadership. Serpent O.R. offered Optimus a trade: hostages and peace if he handed over the Matrix. Optimus agreed. &lt;br /&gt;
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In his stronghold, Serpent O.R. questioned Prime about his own worthiness to carry the Matrix, but Optimus broke free of his chains and aggressively ordered him to surrender. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}} A group of Decepticons broke in and nearly took Prime apart, but not before Serpent O.R. took the Matrix for himself and changed into the massive Serpentor Prime. The Matrix showed Serpentor Prime the error of his ways but as he was about to commit suicide Cobra Commander tripped a device and took over Serpentor Prime&#039;s body. Moments before he crushed Arcee, a severely damaged Optimus Prime threw Hawk toward the Matrix but warned the human not to touch the artifact. Hawk did so anyway and through a quasi-mystical transfer of power Serpentor Prime was vanquished. &lt;br /&gt;
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Later repaired by a female nursebot, Optimus went back to finishing his paperwork. A leader&#039;s job is never done. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 5|The Art of War #5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Sensing a new, yet old, danger to planet Earth, Prime elected to send himself to earth on an investigation, and gave Hot Rod a glare when the young Autobot accused his leader of taking an unnecessary risk to atone for the death of a [[Bumblebee (G1)|close friend]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime landed in the Himalayan Mountains with G.I. Joes [[Flint (G.I. Joe)|Flint]] and [[Hawk (G.I. Joe)|Hawk]]. As they searched the area, the trio was attacked by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] in his [[Pretender]] shell. Prime whacked him with his [[energon-axe]] and in return Bludgeon bearhugged him and coated him in metal-eating slime. Hawk, still carrying power from the Matrix, helped Prime break free. Optimus then shot his way into the hidden kingdom of [[Cobra-La]].&lt;br /&gt;
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While they wandered through the tunnels, the Joes and Prime found cave paintings that described the last visit to Earth by the planet-eating god [[Unicron]]. They were attacked again by Bludgeon and Cobra-La minions, but were led away by a ragged [[Joe Colton]], prisoner of Cobra-La for the last 25 years. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 1 of 2|Black Horizon, Part 1}} Bludgeon managed to find them again and during a second battle Prime tore open the Pretender&#039;s shell, revealing Bludgeon&#039;s robot form inside. Bludgeon tripped and dangled dangerously over a chasm, but rather than let Optimus Prime save him, Bludgeon forced Prime to drop him to his death laughing all the way down.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Joes discovered a cavern where the people of Cobra-La were growing metal-eating spores as a last defense against Unicron. Flint and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] took a load of the spores into space just as Unicron appeared in Earth orbit. Prime, Hawk and Colton headed deeper into Cobra-La to rescue [[Firewall]] and kick butt. Prime was tackled and pinned by a giant bug creature, but made a dramatic recovery and tossed the bug aside. He then took the machine-hating Cobra-La leader [[Golobulus]] to task with a single punch. Flint and Cosmos released the spores, which devoured Unicron from the inside and defeated the giant Transformer before he could harm [[Earth]].&lt;br /&gt;
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With the threat of Unicron gone, Prime relaxed with [[Eject]] and Firewall by watching some reality TV, and sighed at the banality. {{storylink|Black Horizon, Part 2 of 2|Black Horizon, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Bumper-funeral.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Helloooo cameo.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the very beginnings of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]&#039;s civil war, Optimus was one of several Transformers who gathered for the funeral of the slain [[Fastback]] and [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]]. He stood solemnly with his arm around his [[Elita One|girlfriend]], next to his [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|white clone]] and [[Alpha Trion (G1)|a guy with a beard]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:SpotlightBlurr-Optimus.jpg|left|thumb|200px|There&#039;s something missing...]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Galvanized by the death of Sentinel Prime, Optimus joined the Autobot forces under Sentinel&#039;s successor, [[Zeta Prime]], and was assigned to a unit commanded by the veteran [[Kup (G1)|Kup]]. During his tour of duty, his unit intercepted a message reporting a planned attempt on the Prime&#039;s life. He approached former racer [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] as a reliable means of getting the news to Zeta Prime in a hurry. The former celebrity balked, but ultimately the young soldier helped Blurr find what really drove him to race, and thus recruited him to the Autobot cause. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blurr}}&lt;br /&gt;
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An undisclosed amount of time later, Optimus became Optimus Prime. While reviewing his new troops, he came upon a defiant old veteran called Ironhide, who thought of Prime as a wet-behind-the-audio-receptors upstart. Optimus was intrigued by this old coot and asked Ironhide to teach him about the ways of war—and Ironhide did just that. Everything he threw at Optimus, Optimus took and learnt. All his hard comments were taken in. But one day, Optimus, having gained much wisdom since meeting Ironhide, decided to go against Ironhide&#039;s counsel, heading east instead of west. This turned out to be a good idea, as [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] had been waiting in the west to ambush the Autobot forces. Later still, Ironhide and Optimus got a bit unlucky and ended up dangling off a cliff with Ironhide missing a leg. They were eventually rescued. After this, Ironhide developed a respect and awe for his protege. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note| This story conflicts with previous fiction featuring Optimus and Irohide: In &#039;&#039;Spotlight: Blurr&#039;&#039;, pre-Prime Optimus and Ironhide are in the same unit, which contradicts neither of them recognizing the other when Optimus &#039;&#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039;&#039; reviews his troops.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:IDWOptimus.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Freedom is the right of all sentient and heavily-armed beings.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A further undisclosed amount of time later, Optimus Prime commanded the Autobot armed forces spread across the galaxy from the [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub]]. He was directly involved in the cataclysm ([[IDW timeline|just under 450 years ago]]) that reduced [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to a dead husk, fighting alongside [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] in an attempt to stop [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]&#039;s rampage. Their efforts were futile, and they only survived due to Cybertron itself swallowing Thunderwing at [[Thunderhead Pass]]. Megatron was unconvinced that Thunderwing was dead, and he advocated that Cybertron be destroyed to better insure that the mad Decepticon was forever destroyed. Optimus Prime refused and threatened to stop any effort that Megatron attempted. Megatron agreed to spare the planet, but warned Prime that anything which happened afterward was on his head. &lt;br /&gt;
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In the present, Prime received a pulsewave from [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], who was stationed under [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]&#039;s team on Earth, saying that the Decepticon infiltration cell under [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] had broken their infiltration methods and enacted [[Infiltration protocol|siege mode]] prematurely. Soon afterward, the Autobot science vessel &#039;&#039;[[Calabi-Yau]]&#039;&#039; sent a distress signal from above Thunderhead Pass, and he ordered the [[Wrecker]]s to withdraw from [[Varas Centralus]] and meet him on Cybertron. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 2|Stormbringer #2}} Thunderwing had been restored by [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and his followers, and though the Wreckers made short work of them, the real fight would be met with Thunderwing. After the Wreckers, [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] and [[Centurion droid]]s were unable to destroy the monster, Prime took to the field, firing massive amounts of energy at Thunderwing, forcing it to exhaust its last reserves of [[Ultra-Energon]] and, ultimately, its life. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 4|Stormbringer #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] discovered information in Bludgeon&#039;s files about the mysterious new form of Energon found on [[Earth]]. Linking it to the pulsewave transmission from Ironhide, Prime diverted his spacecraft to Earth and called [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] in to assist him. {{storylink|Spotlight: Nightbeat}}. Shortly after arrival, and having undergone alteration so that he could disguise himself as an Earth truck, he slowly began to realize how unusual the situation Prowl&#039;s unit had found itself in was. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 6|Infiltration #6}} Not only had the Decepticons broken their own infiltration protocols over what Starscream had dubbed [[Ultra-Energon|Ore-13]], but after attempting to recover what appeared to be [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]&#039;s remains, it was also evident that some of the planet&#039;s native sentient lifeforms—[[human]]s—posed a threat possibly equal to that of their old enemies. {{storylink|Escalation issue 2|Escalation #2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime, now fully filled-in on Earth&#039;s happenings, decided that they needed reinforcements. He called Nightbeat, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], and [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] to come when they could. When Prowl pointed out that Megatron, in his new gun-based Earth mode, was in the breakaway Soviet state of [[Brasnya]] stirring up trouble, Prime ordered them into action.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] almost got the drop on Prime, but [[Roller]] was right behind him and took out Blitzwing with a single shot. Megatron returned to his full-size robot mode and disagreed with the quality of Prime&#039;s tea and crumpets. At last, the two rivals were going to go at it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The fight went well at first, with Prime blowing Megatron&#039;s [[fusion cannon]] clean off. Megatron, however, tireless thanks to Ore-13, prevailed, almost beating Prime into [[stasis lock]]. {{storylink|Escalation issue 5|Escalation #5}}&lt;br /&gt;
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However, Prime transferred his consciousness into his trailer, leading Megatron to believe him dead. Realizing that Ore-13 was the same as Ultra-Energon, Prime returned to his body in time to save his forces from the relentless Megatron, blasting him point blank in the face and dealing enough damage to the Decepticon leader to drain his power reserves, just as he did against Thunderwing. The victory was narrow, however, leaving Optimus with the daunting task of fending off an increasing enemy force without his last ace in the hole. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6|Escalation #6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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This near-death experience had left Prime somewhat unsettled. While his consciousness was in [[infraspace]] downloading to his trailer, he sensed a presence of dread—the visage of his long-missing predecessor, [[Nova Prime]]. Looking for answers, Optimus Prime left Earth temporarily to seek an audience with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] for answers. Once there, he found out about Nova&#039;s beliefs of how Transformers were a superior race and should remake the universe in their image, and he faced down the rampaging [[Monstructor]], a legacy of Nova&#039;s tenure locked away by Omega Supreme. Then he gave his &amp;quot;you shouldn&#039;t have done that&amp;quot; speech to Omega, handed Monstructor&#039;s limbs over to Jetfire&#039;s team, and went on to have angst-ridden introspection about himself and the tarnished legacy of the [[Prime (rank)|Prime lineage]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After returning to Earth, Nightbeat discovered that a human group was aware of the base&#039;s location and recommended to Prime that they move the &#039;&#039;[[Ark-19]]&#039;&#039;. As preparations were underway, Prime received a message from [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] saying that Thunderwing had been stolen. [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], eager to search for Sunstreaker, suggested that they be reassigned to Earth, and Prime agreed. However, the thrashing that Prime gave Megatron had so embarrassed the Decepticon leader that he ordered in the Decepticons&#039; living weapon, [[Sixshot]]. While moving the &#039;&#039;Ark-19&#039;&#039;, Prime and the others came under fire by Sixshot, who severely damaged their ship. {{storylink|Devastation issue 1|Devastation #1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Devastation4 PrimeSixshot hyperbole.jpg|left|180px|thumb|&amp;quot;And THAT&#039;S for killing my brother in another timeline!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Ordering [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] to get [[Jimmy Pink]] and [[Verity Carlo]] to safety, Optimus then instructed Nightbeat to upload all of &#039;&#039;Ark-19&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s data to &#039;&#039;[[Ark-32]]&#039;&#039; and for Prowl to activate the self-destruct sequence. {{storylink|Devastation issue 2|Devastation #2}} When &#039;&#039;Ark-19&#039;&#039; exploded, it was assumed that Optimus was on board, but all was good at the end when he appeared with [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and the others, ready to take on Sixshot. {{storylink|Devastation issue 3|Devastation #3}} Optimus and the Autobots held Sixshot at bay, but the U.S. military ordered an air strike to destroy the alien robots. The battle was a stalemate, as Sixshot had to return to the Decepticons while the Autobots [[orbital jump]]ed just in time to avoid destruction. {{storylink|Devastation issue 4|Devastation #4}} On &#039;&#039;Ark-32&#039;&#039;, after a conversation with Jetfire, Prime informed Prowl that they needed to retrieve [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], Hot Rod and Ironhide, and leave Earth to see to another crisis. The secure facility on [[Garrus-9]] had been breached, and Prime and company needed to make sure that some of the &amp;quot;recent inmates&amp;quot; there didn&#039;t end up &amp;quot;in enemy hands&amp;quot;. {{storylink|Devastation issue 5|Devastation #5}} Before leaving Earth, Optimus Prime redirected Hound&#039;s unit to rendezvous with &#039;&#039;Ark-32&#039;&#039; at Garrus-9, and he told Hound to impress upon Sideswipe the importance of their mission and how he didn&#039;t leave Earth or Sunstreaker behind lightly. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6|Devastation #6}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DarknessPrimes.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Think he can go one series without having a near-death experience?]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime and Prowl met with [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] and Jetfire on Garrus-9 and discussed the prisoners&#039; breakout and how a surviving Decepticon had been tortured. Maximus and Jetfire gave each other a guilty glance. Prime left Maximus in charge and returned with Prowl to the &#039;&#039;Ark-32&#039;&#039;. Meanwhile, [[Dead Universe]] resident [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] attacked Hound&#039;s crew, but they received help from Ultra Magnus and drove Cyclonus to escape to [[Corata-Vaz]]. There, he activated the [[Nega-Core]] and fought with Magnus and Hound&#039;s crew, who had followed him. In desperation, Cyclonus activated the Nega-Core&#039;s guardian—Thunderwing. Using the distraction, Cyclonus escaped, but Magnus sent another tracker after him. All this was reported to Optimus Prime on the &#039;&#039;Ark-32&#039;&#039;, who recognized that this had something to do with his infraspace encounter in Brasnya. Prime ordered Jetfire to summon the Wreckers to find out what Thunderwing was guarding. {{storylink|Spotlight: Cyclonus}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The prison soon came under attack from Nova Prime. Rather then watch his soldiers be slaughtered by the undead monster, Optimus Prime ordered a retreat and faced Nova alone. Announcing his new title of Nemesis Prime, Optimus&#039;s predecessor explained the nature of the [[Darkness (G1)|Darkness]] before unleashing a portion on the Autobot leader. Shattered, Prime collapsed onto his hands and knees as Nemesis loomed. {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OptimusdeadNemesis.jpg|left|200px|thumb|&amp;quot;Optimus! I&#039;ve come to help y—oh. Sorted, then?&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unexpectedly for Nemesis Prime, the Darkness seemed to be more interested in the younger Prime and sought to be passed onto Optimus. Nemesis wasn&#039;t about to let go of the power he commanded, and he savagely attacked Optimus Prime, whose attempts at reason fell on deaf ears. Just as Nemesis Prime seemed victorious, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] attacked the fallen Prime from behind, killing him. Nemesis&#039;s death allowed the Darkness finally to enter Optimus, who tried to fight against its evil to no avail. Galvatron offered the Autobot a choice: kill himself by plunging into the [[Solar pool]], or pass on the Darkness to Galvatron, who had coveted it for so long. Optimus seemed to do so willingly, but just as he passed on the Darkness, he threw the surprised Galvatron into the solar pool. As Optimus gazed upon the dead body of Nemesis, he told himself he could not mourn the elder Prime&#039;s death, as Nova had truly died long ago. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:AHMPrimecritical.jpg|right|250px|thumb|So he&#039;s dying. [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|This shouldn&#039;t be a problem by now]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
A year later, Optimus Prime combined his Autobot squad with another squad. Having received word of a supposed Decepticon power struggle, Prime led the Autobots to a location where Starscream&#039;s &amp;quot;group&amp;quot; was, only to be ambushed by a unified Decepticon force. Though they managed to turn the tide briefly, Devastator&#039;s appearance made the difference, enabling Megatron to rip the Matrix of Leadership from Prime&#039;s chest. Prime was dealt another blow (mentally) when the Autobots were told that they&#039;d been sold out by a traitor in their ranks (who was later revealed to be [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]). {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 8|All Hail Megatron #8}} The Autobots were led to a space bridge, where Prime, who was the last to go, used his remaining energy to destroy the machine. Unfortunately, this heroic act left Prime in critical condition. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7|All Hail Megatron #7}} With this defeat, the Autobots were forced to leave Earth to the Decepticons. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1|All Hail Megatron #1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After Prime&#039;s unit met up with Kup&#039;s unit, and after dealing with the Swarm and Sideswipe&#039;s sacrifice to save them, Ratchet and Wheeljack managed to use energon from the &#039;&#039;Trion&#039;&#039; to bring Prime back online in time to smooth over an Autobot argument. As the others excitedly welcomed him back, Prime made a speech about how he was proud of them and that he wanted to win the war. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9|All Hail Megatron #9}}. After the Autobots recovered and prepared for a final stand against the Swarm, Prime had a brief chat with Ironhide (during which Ironhide admitted to hating him secretly at first sight at the start of the Great War), then prepared for the Swarm&#039;s onslaught. When they came, the Autobots fought back, but they were quickly outnumbered by the thousands. Thankfully, Omega Supreme arrived and saved them from certain doom. After Omega briefly told them about his arrival, Prime ordersed him to transform and transport the Autobots back to Earth. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10|All Hail Megatron #10}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Arriving at [[New York City]] while the Decepticons were fending off attacks by a European air squad, Optimus and the Autobots began to engage the Decepticons again. After a bit of fighting, and with the threat of Devasator, Optimus ordered Omega Supreme to take Devastator away from the city and fight him elsewhere. Optimus Prime encountered Megatron, and the two engaged in a bit of viewpoint bantering, mostly about the way their war was now changing and the fact that the humans Prime had &amp;quot;sworn to protect&amp;quot; were about to drop a nuclear bomb on the city. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11|All Hail Megatron #11}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After that, they engaged in a fierce battle while trading more banter. At first, Megatron took the advantage, but just as he was about to leave with the Decepticons and take the Matrix with him, a shot from [[Shockwave (G1)|an experimental weapon made from a Transformer]] fired by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|a brave human]] hit him it the face. Seizing the opportunity, Optimus grabbed Megatron&#039;s fusion cannon and slammed it against Megatron&#039;s head, bringing him down in defeat. Before Optimus could truly finish him off, however, Starscream intervened and, after exchanging words, took off with Megatron and the Matrix. Prime&#039;s decision to go after them or save New York from nuclear devastation was rendered moot when Thundercracker, who had grown disenchanted with the way the Decepticons went after the humans, blew up the bomb at the cost of his own life (thanks to an angry Skywarp). The war over for the moment, Prime met with Spike Witwicky, thanked him for helping the Autobots out, and asked if there was some way to help the humans in return. However, Spike responded that they had brought their war to Earth, so any chance of human-Transformer relations was now long gone. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, in an abandoned cave supposedly somewhere within NY&#039;s ruins, Optimus heard Iromhide&#039;s resignation from the Autobot forces. Respecting Ironhide too much, he did not argue, but after some energon and a little flashback, Optimus convinced Ironhide to stay. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Ongoing Issue 1-Optimus Surrenders.jpg|right|thumb|200px|His attempt to start a Mexican wave was not going down well.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Three years later, Prime was still insisting the Autobots remain on Earth despite minimal Decepticon activity and the development of human technology capable of fending off Cybertronian. Hot Rod, already frustrated by the capture of Prowl, snapped and accused Prime of allowing both his guilt at the events of three years ago and his need to protect something to trap the Autobots on a world that didn&#039;t want them anymore. Optimus was left nearly speechless, forcing him to allow Hot Rod to lead a risky mission to free Prowl. In order to put some of his fears to rest, Ironhide went along to keep the more emotional &#039;bots in check. This mission ended with the freeing of Prowl, at the cost of Ironhide&#039;s life.&lt;br /&gt;
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The loss of Ironhide forced Optimus to re-examine his actions of the past years. Concluding he had been the wrong, leading the Autobots down a self-destructive path, Prime resigned his post as Autobot leader and handed himself into the humans. {{storylink|...For All Mankind}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus Prime commanded one of the last remaining pockets of Autobot resistance, hiding out in the [[Pegasus Star Cluster]]. While awaiting the arrival of Bumblebee&#039;s team, he and Hound tried to work out how to convert the [[Zodiac Energy]] for their consumption. &amp;quot;Bumblebee&#039;s&amp;quot; arrival proved to be their downfall, as it was really the self-serving mercenary [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], who destroyed the bunker security systems, allowing the Decepticons inside. Optimus Prime refused to surrender during the ensuing struggle, until Mirage used the critically injured Jetfire as a hostage, forcing Prime to back down. When Megatron betrayed Mirage&#039;s word and ordered the execution of the Autobots, Optimus Prime tried to reason with the mercenary, appealing to his former friendship with Hound...until Mirage killed Hound in defiance. Furious, Optimus Prime broke free of his captors and tackled Mirage into the Zodiac Energy chamber. {{storylink|Spotlight: Mirage}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:HeartsofSteel_1_Prime_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|200px|&amp;quot;I keep telling you Bumblebee, the Dinobots will never accept you into their clique!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Autobots and the Decepticons came to [[Earth|a distant world]] in the grip of an ice age. Assuming alternate modes based upon the [[Dinosaur|dominant (though doomed) indigenous creatures]] of this planet, they continued their ancient, unending war. However, the Autobots, with their energy levels dangerously low, withdrew from combat as the world grew colder. They sought refuge in a deep cavern and entered [[stasis lock]], awaiting the day when surface conditions changed to better suit their operation. Millions of years later, Bumblebee was awoken by the hammering of humans working on a rail line. He briefly considered awakening Optimus Prime, but thought better of it. After discovering the world had changed significantly, Ratchet thought there was no reason to awaken Prime. {{storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 1}} When Bumblebee discovered the Decepticons were once again active on this world, Ratchet and Prowl agreed that the Autobots must intervene, but again decided out of rousing Optimus from his slumber. {{Storylink|Hearts of Steel issue 2|Hearts of Steel #2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Note|Optimus Prime appears very briefly in the first few pages, in his &amp;quot;Ice Age Wars&amp;quot; body (we only see him in robot mode, but his altmode is a brachiosaurus&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=d5d311674e796c81d010d26ac751389b&amp;amp;showtopic=10074&amp;amp;st=20&amp;amp;p=266183&amp;amp;#entry266183 Allspark forums post] by [[Guido Guidi]], August 15th, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. He spends most of the story in stasis lock. [[:Image:Opthos.jpg|Unused concept art]] depicts him as transforming into a locomotive engine.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Music Label&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
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In the year 2007, the Autobots discovered that the Decepticon communications officer [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] was attempting to control the minds of humans through hypnotic music broadcast through a series of tiny clones of himself. Optimus Prime upgraded his trailer with a huge pair of speakers, and proceeded to drive around, broadcasting a counter-frequency that undid the villain&#039;s brainwashing. {{storylink|Music Label}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note|The [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|2007 Takara timeline]] placed the events of the &#039;&#039;[[Music Label]]&#039;&#039; storyline in the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Generation 1 cartoon continuity]], but Optimus Prime&#039;s role in the story is therefore made impossible, as he was dead in that universe in 2007. However, given the way the timeline is unhelpfully laid out, it&#039;s not impossible that this adventure may take place not in the mainstream timeline, but in the branched-off parallel dimension of the &#039;&#039;[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Binaltech|Binaltech]]&#039;&#039; storyline, where Optimus did not die.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Henkei! Henkei!&#039;&#039; pack-in comics===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 1}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 2}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 3}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 4}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 7}} {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 11}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Henkei! Henkei!&#039;&#039; Bun Bun manga===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Enter! The Transformers}} {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Appears!}} {{storylink|Kingdom of Giants}} {{storylink|The Enemy from the Arctic}} {{storylink|Wataru&#039;s Power}} {{storylink|Optimus Prime&#039;s Secret}} {{storylink|Time of Resurrection}} {{storylink|Creation! The New Emperor of Destruction!!}} {{storylink|The Threat of Galvatron}} {{storylink|Revenge (issue)|Revenge}} {{storylink|A Nightmare, Once Again}} {{storylink|To the Sea of Stars}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Alternity===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Alternity ultimate silver optimus.jpg|right|125px|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 2007, the Optimus Prime of [[universal stream]] Primax 109.0 Beta encountered a mysterious messenger from another world: [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Alternity|another incarnation of himself]] from a parallel dimension who left him with a warning. Two years hence, Megatron would bring the terrifying super-dimensional lifeform known as the &amp;quot;Beast of Time&amp;quot;, [[Hytherion]], into their dimension to destroy Earth. The only thing that could battle Hytherion was the power of the super-evolved multi-dimensional race of Cybertronians known as the [[Alternity (species)|Alternity]]. Prime agreed that when the danger appeared, he would join the Alternity in the fight.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sure enough, in 2009, when Hytherion&#039;s colossal claw-marks appeared on planets throughout the solar system, Prime&#039;s other-dimensional incarnation returned, bringing with him a &amp;quot;Vibrant Red&amp;quot; Vector 109 [[auto-avatar]] with which Prime fused. In that instant, he was reborn as part of the Alternity, a manifold being who encompassed all the different incarnations of Optimus Prime through the multiverse at once. Prime reached his hands heaveanward and peeled back the layers of reality, exposing the gargantuan fanged maw of Hytherion looming above the Autobots. {{storylink|From Here to Alternity}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Optimus battled alongside the Alternity to fend off the beast, when unexpectedly, [[Megatron (G1)#Alternity|Megatron]] overwrote the beast&#039;s higher functions with his own. At first, it seemed that Hytherion had been killed, but a newly empowered Megatron (in two bodies) appeared and declared that, now possessing a power that rivaled the Alternity&#039;s, he challenged his opponents to take him on or see the multiverse itself burn. {{storylink|To Mega Therion}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|Alternity beings are both individuals and a collective of separate entities. More fiction about Optimus Prime&#039;s Alternity collective can be found [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Alternity|here]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Robot Heroes&#039;&#039; comic===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:IDW I am Optimus Prime battle.jpg|left|thumb|300px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|I Am Optimus Prime (Robot Heroes)|I Am Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&amp;quot;Universe&amp;quot; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
: &#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Ron Hayden]] (English)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Actionblast1matrix.jpg|left|thumb|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime narrates the events of what happened before the Ark crashed on earth. He explains that the heroic Autobots are fighting a war against the Evil decepticons who oppress freedom on Cybertron for the life giving energy known as Energon. He also mentions that he became the new leader of a long line of Autobot leaders by the discovery of the Matrix. On there quest for more Energon, they were chased by Decepticons onto the planet known as Earth and crashed on it. When they got out of the ark, Optimus Prime scanned his truck altmode and states the war will not end on Earth. {{Storylink| Action Blast 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Both Optimus Prime and Bumblebee race down a street in an unknown desert wile having an argument with Bumblebee about Energon. He orders Bumblebee to scan the surroundings to find the location where the Decepticons are hiding now, and to be careful for possible scouts. When Bumblebee notes what they are doing, Prime speculates that what they might be planning is to convert the energy into Energon, and orders Bumblebee to make a diversion. During the time Bumblebee and Cyclonus are fighting, Prime made a surprise attack and takes out Cyclonus with his Ion-axe, and turns his attention to Megatron. When both Decepticons flee, Prime tells Bumblebee they did a good job(in front a burning Gas station), and both Autobots get back on the move.{{storylink|Fight for Energon}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commercial appearances==&lt;br /&gt;
Optimus Prime has appeared in more [[Commercial|television commercials]] than any other Transformer... just as with everything else. He has been voiced by Peter Cullen in every animation segment in which he&#039;s had a speaking role.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Toycommercial-firstPrime.jpg|right|thumb|My wheels don&#039;t disappear!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* He was one of the featured characters in the first ever appearance of the Transformers anywhere, an advertisement for the first issue of [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|the Generation 1 comic]]. He arrives in the midst of a desert battle as the Decepticons attacked a power plant on Earth, driving to back up his troops in defending it. He strikes a rather iconic pose as he transforms and fires, which would be replicated and copied numerous times in the early years of the franchise. This first commercial used nonfinal versions of the characters&#039; [[character model]]s; Optimus Prime, for example, still had wheels on his legs. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9-7RjhFzpM]&lt;br /&gt;
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* In a commercial for the [[Triple Changer]]s, Optimus confronts Astrotrain on a desert battlefield, but the Triple-Changer escapes under fire from other Autobots. Shortly afterward, Prime uses Perceptor&#039;s microscope mode to examine a fragment of Decepticon battle armor. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WssZjIsUIU]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Prime and Jazz are shown fighting Megatron in the desert in an ad for the 1985 cars, whom he summons to help out with the battle. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WssZjIsUIU]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Prime narrates two commercials around the time of &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;, describing the action as [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] battles [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]], and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] take on the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X-10pud7DY] &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Toycommercial-PowermasterOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|An integral part of Powermaster Prime&#039;s transformation is Joyride shooting lightning bolts through his pointed finger.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Prime was prominently featured in the ad for the first comic issue featuring the [[Powermaster]]s. On the rocky plains where practically every Transformer battle ever seems to happen, Prime arrives in his Powermaster body to back up three of his troops against Dreadwind and Darkwing. He&#039;s shown combining with [[Hi-Q]] and transforming, attacking with his trailer&#039;s battle station mode, then combining with the trailer to continue the attack. Who wins? Find out in [[People Power!|Marvel Comics]]! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voX_KNNxNCI]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:OptimusQuickswitchCommercial.jpg|right|thumb|Optimus Prime is so giving, he even gives other Transformers time in his commercials.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Prime also features briefly in [[Quickswitch]]&#039;s ad; in a battle on the moon, Quickswitch transforms to gun mode and is wielded by Powermaster Optimus Prime.&lt;br /&gt;
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* An abbreviated ad for Powermaster Prime uses footage from both the Marvel Comic and Quickswitch commercials.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Prime&#039;s Powermaster body shows up yet again in the [[Classic Pretender|Pretender Classic]]s ad. He comes under attack in the darkened streets of the city, prompting the narrator to explain that he needs the greatest Transformers ever! Prime then welcomes back Bumblebee and Jazz in their Pretender forms. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mahbq-FnSPY]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Powermaster Prime and [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]] are the representatives from each faction that [[Doubledealer]] doublecrosses! Everyone wonders who that guy is that Prime&#039;s talking to... He looks kinda suspicious!&lt;br /&gt;
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* Optimus features prominently in the first [[Action Master]] commercial; he&#039;s shown surrounded by a circle of his troops, and challenges them to give up their transforming powers to become faster, stronger, more alive! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeNf3jQ1zdw]&lt;br /&gt;
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* A stock intro was used for several Micromaster commercials, with Optimus opening his fist to reveal a Micromaster city within.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hotrodpatrolcommercial.jpg|right|thumb|Prime wants to know if they can transform, because he sure can&#039;t!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* A similar sequence in another Micromaster ad has Prime opening his fist to find the [[Hot Rod Patrol]] inside. He and Jazz check them out, and Optimus wonders if they can transform. &lt;br /&gt;
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* In an ad for the Micromaster micro bases, a battle rages outside an Autobot base, and Prime watches impassively as Bumblebee and Jazz pull two [[Interstellar shuttle|captured]] [[Attack Copter|vehicles]] into the base. Prime is the first to notice that the vehicles are transforming and shooting things. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Prime and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] are the stars of the first &#039;&#039;[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]&#039;&#039; commercial, animated with [[Computer-generated imagery|CGI]]. Prime is shown driving down a road in his &#039;&#039;Generation 2&#039;&#039; colored truck mode. He rocket-launches up into the air to transform, then has a brutal fight with Ramjet. Despite getting a hole blasted in his chest, he wins the fight and fires his gun into the air in triumph. Non-speaking.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Prime also is shown briefly in a commercial for the new Megatron tank toy. He transforms and finds his head in a target crosshairs. In the subsequent toy segment, Prime&#039;s toy is shown getting completely trashed by that of Megatron. Non-speaking.&lt;br /&gt;
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* And finally, Prime got his own rap segment. He&#039;s shown in his Combat toy body, waiting for Megatron as he attacks a human subdivision. Prime converts to robot form, blows up Megatron&#039;s weapon at point blank range, and slugs it out with him. Apparently emerging victorious, is next shown sitting next to an identical truck, which the live-action kid mistakes for the real thing. The real Prime then transforms and picks up the kid, inspecting the human with his cold, lifeless, flashing red optics. Prime is once again voiced by Peter Cullen in this commercial.&lt;br /&gt;
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Prime also appeared in commercials for &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; products other than the toys themselves...&lt;br /&gt;
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* In the ad for [[Coleco]]&#039;s [[Power Cycle]], Optimus Prime shoots &#039;&#039;at&#039;&#039; a child riding the titular cycle, but misses. This footage is recycled from the advertisement for the comic.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Prime delivers a load of shoes to schoolchildren in a South American ad for [[Bata]]&#039;s licensed &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; footwear.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Call of the Future&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{storylink|Transformers: Call of the Future}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; - The Game===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3_PC_G1OptimusPrime_DLC.jpg|thumb|200px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Peter Cullen]]&lt;br /&gt;
====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====&lt;br /&gt;
{{Note|On [[August 27]], [[2009]], Optimus Prime was one of a handful of downloadable characters in a DLC pack for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Transformers: War for Cybertron&#039;&#039; video game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice Actor:&#039;&#039; Peter Cullen&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:WarforCybertron-Primeart.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Tell that Wendy&#039;s lady that we found the beef.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After his home city-state of [[Iacon]] was attacked by Decepticons, Optimus Prime stepped up.  He joined the war, and soon found himself a respected and prominent participant of it.  He&#039;s not yet leader of the Autobots, but regardless he&#039;s focused completely on ending the war.  He carries his signature [[Ion blaster]] and can transform into a truck-like Cybertronian tank.  {{storylink|War for Cybertron}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Optimus Prime (G1)/toys}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Main article: [[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* According to [[Bob Budiansky]], longtime comics writer [[Denny O&#039;Neil]] named Optimus Prime prior to Budiansky being brought on to the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; project.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Optimus Prime&#039;s Japanese name is &amp;quot;Convoy&amp;quot;, which is named after his original name &amp;quot;Battle Convoy&amp;quot; in the [[Diaclone]] toyline, because the name &amp;quot;Optimus Prime&amp;quot; is difficult for Japanese kids to remember and pronounce. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Figure-Oh&#039;&#039;&#039; No. 114&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*According to an early &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|Universe]]&#039;&#039;-style profile published in &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers Comics Magazine]]&#039;&#039;, Optimus Prime&#039;s &amp;quot;official&amp;quot; nicknames were at one point considered to be &amp;quot;Autobot Commander&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Chief&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Big Boss&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Roller&amp;quot;. As far as it is known, no piece of fiction has ever purposely addressed him using these nicknames, though it&#039;s a fair bet he&#039;s been called &amp;quot;chief&amp;quot; at least once or twice anyway.&lt;br /&gt;
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* He [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|allegedly]] hates the music of [[wikipedia:Mötley_Crüe|Mötley Crüe]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to the staff of &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039;, Optimus Prime became a space explorer in the [[Beast Era]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Beast Wars Universe]] ISBN 978-4766938005&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Optimusprime-mom.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Prime&#039;s mom knows how to write in cursive.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* By the time Optimus Prime appeared in &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]&#039;&#039;, his 3D model from &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; had apparently been lost, leading the animators to use a faceplated Optimus Primal head as a quick replacement to save time and budget.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Aside from occasionally having Alpha Trion as a father figure, Optimus Prime may have a mother! In an advertisement for [[Pepsi Convoy]] that shows him in a refrigerator (along with [[Destron Pizza]]), a note attached to a nearby piece of Tupperware reads:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Dear Convoy&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Warm it before you eat&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Mom&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Although the ad itself is for Pepsi Convoy, he is a separate character, and it can be assumed that the note was left for Convoy/Optimus Prime himself.&lt;br /&gt;
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* The first wave of Dreamwave posters in 2001 identified Optimus Prime as [http://www.comicden.com/merch/posters.htm &amp;quot;Captimus Primus&amp;quot;], which is tantalizingly close to making some sort of sense.&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to EJ Su, Optimus Prime&#039;s [[Holomatter|Holomatter avatar]] is modeled after [[wikipedia:Ulysses_S._Grant|Ulysses S. Grant]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.protodepot.com/archive/2007_11_01_archive.html Idea: Holomatter Projection]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* As of [[All Hail Megatron issue 13|All Hail Megatron #13]], Optimus has a mouth underneath that [[faceplate]] of his.&lt;br /&gt;
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* This Optimus Prime, along with the original [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] makes a cameo appearance as one of the four elders who began the [[Space Bridge]] project in the &#039;&#039;[[Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; episode [[Balance]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;amp;char=Optimus_Prime Optimus Prime&#039;s Universe profile at NTFA.net]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;amp;char=Optimus_Prime_PM Powermaster Optimus Prime&#039;s Universe profile at NTFA.net]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Footnotes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Action Masters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Alternators]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Alternity characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Attacktix]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Autobot leaders]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Classics characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Combiners]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Convention exclusives]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:E-Hobby]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 2 characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ghosts]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Go-Bots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Headmasters characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Henkei! Henkei! characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Kiss Players characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Machine Wars characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Mail order exclusives]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Matrix bearers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Multi-component Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Powermasters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Return of Convoy characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Robot Masters characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rulers of Cybertron]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Titanium Series]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Toys &amp;quot;R&amp;quot; Us exclusives]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Transformers with three modes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Zombies]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Bumblebee (Movie)/toys</title>
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&lt;div&gt;==Split AGAIN?==&lt;br /&gt;
Apparently this page is 52 KB, which is fuckoff huge by Wiki standards.  I propose splitting it into Bumblebee/toys and Bumblebee/merchandise.  Any opposition?  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:31, 15 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:52 kB isn&#039;t that large—only old browsers have trouble editing. 100 kB is a better point to split it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:27, 15 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Leader Bumblebee==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/285964-5th-rotf-leader-class-mold.html&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it time to add a new sub section? [[User:Dinoman96|Dinoman96]] 13:13, 4 January 2010 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: The Ride&#039;&#039;&#039; is a theme park attraction planned to open in early 2011 at [[Universal Studios]] in Hollywood and Singapore.&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the [[live-action film series]], the ride will feature giant animatronic robots, High Definition 3D film footage, and conventional special effects.&lt;br /&gt;
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The ride uses the same technology the popular Amazing Adventures of [[Spider-man]] thrill ride over at the Islands of Adventure theme park in the Universal Orlando Resort. So that most likely means there will not be a Transformers attraction in the Sunshine State.&lt;br /&gt;
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And there was many crying from the [[fandom|fans]] that live in Florida.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/10/20/transformers-the-ride-at-universal-studios/ Slashfilm article]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/transformers%20the%20ride_1084190 Contactmusic.com article]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: The Ride&#039;&#039;&#039; is a theme park attraction planned to open in early 2011 at [[Universal Studios]] in Hollywood and Singapore.&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the [[live-action film series]], the ride will feature giant animatronic robots, High Definition 3D film footage, and conventional special effects.&lt;br /&gt;
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The ride uses the same technology the popular Amazing Adventures of [[Spider-man]] over at the Islands of Adventure theme park in the Universal Orlando Resort. So that most likely means there will not be a Transformers attraction in the Sunshine State.&lt;br /&gt;
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And there was many crying from the [[fandom|fans]] that live in Florida.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/10/20/transformers-the-ride-at-universal-studios/ Slashfilm article]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/transformers%20the%20ride_1084190 Contactmusic.com article]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: The Ride&#039;&#039;&#039; is a theme park attraction planned to open in early 2011 at [[Universal Studios]] in Hollywood and Singapore.&lt;br /&gt;
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Based on the [[live-action film series]], the ride will feature giant animatronic robots, High Definition 3D film footage, and conventional special effects.&lt;br /&gt;
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The ride uses the same technology the popular Amazing Adventures of [[Spiderman]] over at the Islands of Adventure theme park in the Universal Orlando Resort. So that most likely means there will not be a Transformers attraction in the Sunshine State.&lt;br /&gt;
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And there was many crying from the [[fandom|fans]] that live in Florida.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/10/20/transformers-the-ride-at-universal-studios/ Slashfilm article]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/transformers%20the%20ride_1084190 Contactmusic.com article]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Regarding deletion==&lt;br /&gt;
I see no point to having this article. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:There are 4 instances of Ruined Forever on [[Transformers timeline|this page]] alone. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I see no point to having those, either. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::JaAm has a page.  &#039;Ruined Forever&#039; is used ironically within the fandom- and this is clearly marked as a fandom article just like [[True fan]] is.  Ruined Forever is clearly more prominent than [[Dull surprise]], though possibly not as widely as [[Neon]].  (Which now that I look at it need its opening quote reformatted...)  My entire impetus for creating it was that Sntint made an ironic Ruined Forever joke on a talk page and I was like- &amp;quot;huh, why dont&#039; we have a page for that?&amp;quot;  (Well, also I wanted to wash the bad tast of [[Don Murray]] out of my brain.) &lt;br /&gt;
:::Ruined Forever appears to rest comfortably within the range of existing articles on the Wiki, but I am content to allow others to decide.  If a majority think it&#039;s not relevant to Transformers the article can be deleted, as always.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I say it&#039;s as relevant as Playskool, neon, and FIRRIB. {{unsigned|Terrocon Blot}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And Derik on the rebound to make me feel dumber.  It&#039;s not enough that I misspelled my own screenname, he&#039;s also got to sign my posts for me.  Damn that Derik.  YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWN.  --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 07:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I vote for keeping the page.  As already stated, a number of other pages already exist to explain similar fandom colloquialisms. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 13:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don&#039;t see this article as explaining anything. It seems to exist purely to ridicule fandom behavior that we don&#039;t like, and thus I see no point to keeping it. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it needs to stay too. Where else would terms like &#039;&#039;Ruined FOREVER&#039;&#039;, [[Furmanism]], and [[Chewed caramels]] be documented for all time, if not here?--[[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 14:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Do these fandom terms need to be ones that are famous/infamous, known or used widely? Then how about TFW2005&#039;s &#039;HE TELL ME&#039; (in reference to that guy who claimed Peter Cullen was cast as RID Prime)? TFW2005 is probably the most prominent of the Transformers fan sites, as well as the one that Hasbro seems to unofficially prefer. I personally never even heard of &#039;dull surprise&#039; until I read it on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Nor I.  But I don&#039;t think we&#039;re just documenting memes-- each of these articles, Truk !Munky, Chewed caramels even JaAm are &#039;about&#039; a belief/response/tendency in fandom- not just the phrase used to illustrate it.  Dull Surprise is a belief the masturbatory praise heaped on Superstar Funana was undeserved, JaAm is about the backlash against Dreamwave&#039;s style-over-sanity lack of visual storytelling, Truk not Monkey encompasses both knee-jerk hatred of BW and frustration about knee-jerks, and Chewed caramels &#039;&#039;seems&#039;&#039; to be about a desire that all TF toylines subscribe to some broad interpretation of G1&#039;s design aesthetic.  I doubt anyone put &#039;&#039;conscious thought&#039;&#039; into this, but the fandom-meme articles people found worthy of creating aren&#039;t &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; about the phrase- they&#039;re about phrases that expresses something larger about how fans relate to Transformers.&lt;br /&gt;
::(I&#039;m not familiar with &#039;HE TELL ME&#039; and where it may fall with this.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Personally, I think dull surprise is way too limited in use (basically just #wiigii! as far as I know) to really belong here, but Derik does sort of have a point about the article being about a little more than that.  I also don&#039;t know &amp;quot;HE TELL ME&amp;quot; but it sounds like something worth considering -- claims of unnamed inside sources and all that.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oops, it was actually Peter Cullen as Armada Prime. The posts (being from 2002), no longer exists, but fortunately blitz_64 managed to save the posts for posterity [http://www.geocities.com/blitz_64/HETELLME.html The Saga of HE TELL ME and GoOP]. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually, Steve-o, I&#039;d say &amp;quot;Secret Inside Sources&amp;quot; would be a more appropriate meme/article to describe that last one.  Having never heard of &amp;quot;HE TELL ME&amp;quot;, and seeing that few others apparently have either, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s as much a meme as &amp;quot;Secret Inside Sources&amp;quot; is.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 13:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Around the same period, I recall some other idiot who claimed to be a Hasbro photographer and described crazy things like the Mini-Cons becoming body armour and Prime&#039;s minicon transforming into his Matrix. These claims, while totally false, were important because they apparently spurred Aaron to emerge as ORSON and totally destroy that other dude, IIRC. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I remember that quite vividly indeed.  The guy who claimed to be the photographer actually revealed himself over [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26415&amp;amp;st=20&amp;amp;p=551756&amp;amp;#entry551756 at the Allspark this year], actually.  Oh yeah, and I think the animu thing was 4Chan leakage [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=animu].--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
I say we keep it. [[User:Compy-Rex|Compy-Rex]] 18:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)Compy-Rex&lt;br /&gt;
:If this page is deleted I will cry. [[User:(Undecided)|(Undecided)]] 05:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Usage==&lt;br /&gt;
Has &amp;quot;ruined forever&amp;quot; ever been used seriously by fans? While it describes a real and annoying sentiment, I&#039;m not sure I like basing an article on a phrase that was sarcastic in the first place. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Seconded. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m sure something very similar, at least, has been used.  But regardless, you say that it describes a real sentiment, so, what&#039;s the problem?  Can you recommend a better title for the article?  Or are you saying the article shouldn&#039;t exist at all?  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, my vote is for not existing at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I (and a number of others) used to think &amp;quot;Rapeing my childood&amp;quot; was only used for sarcastic reasons. Then I read the thread on the promo poster for Transformers Animated, which had a number or people using the seriously. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Has Trukk not Munky ever been used in a non Ironic/Sarcastic way? It&#039;s still a catchphrase used by the fandom, as is this. Both rate articles under the fandom category, IMo.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The &#039;&#039;&#039;scream your head off in outraged panic&#039;&#039;&#039; / &#039;&#039;&#039;call for mass-firings or send death threats over something that has/will ruin/ed TF&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;behavior&#039;&#039; of this article certainly was in evidence during Beast Machines- and I think the &amp;quot;sky is falling&amp;quot; aspect is amply evidenced by the sheer &#039;&#039;number&#039;&#039; of times fans have declared TF ruined forever.  (And, clearly, been wrong every time, or every time but 1 depending on your belief system.)&lt;br /&gt;
:If you have some other title you&#039;d prefer for this article like &#039;Clicken-Little Syndrome&#039; by all means propose it and see what people think, but the article speaks to a genuine (and highly mockable) aspect of fandom psychology.&lt;br /&gt;
:And frankly, while the &#039;&#039;behavior&#039;&#039; itself is worthy of ridicule, the &#039;&#039;reason&#039;&#039; for it- an exaggerated concern for the health and future of the brand- is actually kinda &#039;&#039;endearing&#039;&#039; and speaks well of fans.  At least their &#039;&#039;hearts&#039;&#039; are in the right place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Paul Dini==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think accusing the fandom of saying the art style of Paul Dini &#039;&#039;the writer&#039;&#039; being used for Animated will &amp;quot;RUIN TRANSFORMERS FOREVER&amp;quot; is making the article simply too mean-spirited. I&#039;ve never seen any individual display the idiocy we&#039;re accusing the fandom of with that line. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 05:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have.&lt;br /&gt;
Scary, scary stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the last line of the entry seems to cut a little into the humor by overexplaining. Replace it with a &amp;quot;general hasbro idiocy&amp;quot; linking to &amp;quot;transformers&amp;quot; or somesuch?&lt;br /&gt;
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==Marked for deletion.==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is getting out of hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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This page has become the epicenter of an edit war that has gone on for nearly a week now.  As of the time of this writing, only six other pages link to this article.  While I fully support the light tone of Teletraan I, and I understand that some explanation of aspects of the fandom complete the Wiki, I believe this particular article and debate at this point only detracts from the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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I DO agree that it was biased in the form in which it existed before our anonymous editor &amp;quot;friend&amp;quot; decided to change it, but I do not think that matters any longer.  This article does not add anything inherently positive to the wiki, indeed, it does not chronicle anything positive &#039;&#039;or&#039;&#039; negative about Transformers itself at all.  Its relation to Transformers is tangential at best.&lt;br /&gt;
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By deleting this, we would not lose anything except the beginnings of what appear to be the modern equivalent of a Usenet flamewar.  Deleting it, I believe, can only benefit Teletraan I. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 12:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I whole-heartedly agree. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree. I didn&#039;t feel this article was necessary, and I still don&#039;t. I agree that the fandom is full of idiots who never bothered to grow up after 1986, but our mockery of them doesn&#039;t belong in the wiki. Not to say that Mister &amp;quot;integrity of the characters&amp;quot; is right, though. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 12:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m putting in a vote for keeping it. It&#039;s a fun article to read, and it speaks a lot of truth in it&#039;s wonderfully snarky way.--[[User:Gouki|Gouki]] 12:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Snarkyness can be fun but this article is just pushing it, IMO. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think it should stay, it&#039;s funny.  Also, if you delete it then the terrorists win.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I would keep it.  I think it describes a real sentiment, that needs to be pointed out as overblown.  [[User:JW|JW]] 13:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
The edit war was only between registered users and a single unregistered dude.  I&#039;ve fixed things, at least for the moment, by protecting the page from unregistered editors.  If you&#039;re gonna get in a pissy editing war, we&#039;d damn well better know who you are.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Our anonymous friend is from the Netherlands, if anybody cares. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 14:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This &amp;quot;Ruined FOREVER&amp;quot; article is stupid and don&#039;t make any sense. Its just shit&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[Seafood Louis]].  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if the opinion of an anon means anything, but I think this article is freaking hilarious. I was talking with a friend about TF:Animated and he said that the girl with the transforming bike &#039;ruined it permanently&#039; so I linked him this article. He laughed and said, &#039;ok, well maybe I&#039;m over-reacting.&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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I think the article is funny and provides valuable perspective. {{unsigned|66.167.253.76}}&lt;br /&gt;
: Well said, citizen.  [[User:JW|JW]] 16:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, you&#039;ve cancelled out the other anon from earlier, at any rate.  And yeah, I agree with your assessment of it.--[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 22:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same --[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I happen to think this article is incredibly useful in charting the tendency for all fans everywhere (but especially TF fans) to react in comical and hyperbolic ways. I think the breadth of what people determine can/has ruined TF forever automatically makes the article an amusing and insightful look for the novice fan into the fandom&#039;s reactionary past.&lt;br /&gt;
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Indeed, I actually have shown this article to people just coming back (or getting into) TF. It&#039;s inspired about as many laughs as it has genuine curiosity as to what the fandom and franchise are like as entities. Isn&#039;t that the idea of this wiki? I would think reference materials as to the history of the fandom, good and bad, are always a boon.&lt;br /&gt;
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(and that aside, I just think it&#039;s really, really funny)&lt;br /&gt;
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.... Aaaaaaand I had to go and screw up. Bah. That&#039;s me above. --[[User:Cmdr Crayfish|Cmdr Crayfish]] 10:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Where do we draw the line?==&lt;br /&gt;
How do we stop this from becoming just a giant list of everything that anyone has ever expressed any dislike for ever?  Why, for instance, is &#039;&#039;The Beast Within&#039;&#039; in there?  Or Gonzo (which I thought was generally accepted as at least &#039;&#039;better&#039;&#039; than We&#039;ve, even if not as good at Mainframe)? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve kinda been watching this list grow with some mild irritation- it went from about 1 item for every 2 years to &#039;&#039;twice&#039;&#039; that in fairly short order, and that bothers me.&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve sorta resolved to edit the list down this October, pruning it (so to speak) with some opportunity for people to say what should stay and what should go.  &lt;br /&gt;
:The Beast Within has to stay though- at the &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; least it ruined the Dinobots forever- now whenever George Rodd brings up combiner Dinobots we have to grudgingly admit they&#039;re canon.  Also, it was the reason for the article&#039;s creation in the first place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Why wait?  If we want this to be a list of developments that prompted widespread fury that lingered for years, we can shorten it to &amp;quot;Actionmasters, BW, BM, Armada, Hallit, and Bay,&amp;quot; and perhaps a few others, right now.  Then a &amp;quot;Trivia&amp;quot; note saying that The Beast Within really DID ruin Transformers, or at least Dinobots, forever.  Just a thought... but yeah, having every single series in there dilutes the point.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Problem is, how do you decide what deserves to be listed as ruining TF forever, if none of it really did in the first place. I&#039;ve seen just about everything listed there used as an example of why ____ TF series/movie/toyline will fail--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, Thy, I&#039;d append your list with a general &amp;quot;*-masters&amp;quot; thing, as a lot of armchair CEOs claim that the entire -master trend killed the line, not the fact that it had, you know, run its course.  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 14:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ll just basically agree with Thy and Hoop that whatever&#039;s listed here should have a certain &amp;quot;endurance&amp;quot; as a scapegoat. The turnaround of opinion on Animated was what, two weeks? &amp;quot;* Masters&amp;quot; certainly counts, as should Pretenders. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::What, a simple a Google newsgroup search for [http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22killed+transformers%22&amp;amp;start=10&amp;amp;sa=N&amp;amp;scoring=d&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;|&amp;quot;killed transformers&amp;quot;] ain&#039;t enough? /:] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 05:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I doubt I&#039;d get objections if I added it, but I&#039;d like to throw it by the community: Should we readd [[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 04:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I really think Animated should stay in there, if only because it&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;such a dramatic departure.&#039;&#039;&#039; Turn around was fast, but the initial reaction was strong. I mean, for the first time in fifteen years of being a fan, I actually found myself muttering &amp;quot;My god... they&#039;ve finally done it. It&#039;s ruined...&amp;quot; --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 05:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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beast wars didnt reuin tf beast machines sorta did but it was still quite good ,if u ignore some minor things - Unsigned post by [[User:80.6.180.141|80.6.180.141]]&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re missing the point of the article, then.  The point is that every time something new comes along, the fandom screams about how it will ruin Transformers forever, when in reality it&#039;s usually the opposite. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 22:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Last Deletion Locked in?==&lt;br /&gt;
Spotted a couple of points on the list removed by [[Special:Contributions/Teletraan|someone who seems to like deleting stuff just because]], but when I tried to restore the page, it was already locked.  Were his edits accepted, then?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There are two facets to this.  First, without occasional pruning, the list in this article tends to grow, and grow, and grow.  Every now and then, someone has to come along and cut it back.  Since this is a wiki, the question of what gets cut is made by the person willing to do the cutting.&lt;br /&gt;
:The second facet is that the items cut were in fact less core to the &amp;quot;ruined forever&amp;quot; concept.  &amp;quot;Runined forever&amp;quot; is a cry that springs up whenever &#039;&#039;something new is added to the Transformers brand&#039;&#039; by HasTak, and it happens every single time.  Thus, the fans &#039;&#039;can&#039;t&#039;&#039; ruin TF forver, because they don&#039;t add new canon.  And, while HasTak &#039;&#039;can&#039;&#039; ruin TF forever, it&#039;s because they&#039;re the only ones who can do so.  I.e., one of the cut items was in error, and one was redundant.  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fair enough, I suppose.  It was a combination of both the deletions and the person who committed them that made me question their validity.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yah, user Teletraan is not exactly a primo contributor.  Still, this particular edit seems (at minimum) defensible.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Masters of the Universe link==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve never, ever been interested in MOTU, so I have no idea what was the cause of the revamp line&#039;s failure, but given the extreme slant of the article, I can only assume it failed because it concentrated on collectors rather than kids. If so, why does it link to a Wikipedia article that cites Mattel&#039;s &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;excessive focus on attempting to mass-market the line to a new generation of children rather than focusing on a safer collector-based approach&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; as the reason for the line&#039;s failure? Am I missing something or does that sound like the line tanked because it focused on selling toys to kids rather than what this article is railing against? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Guess who wrote the Wikipedia article.  (Hint: It wasn&#039;t kids.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The fact is the line failed, no one can say *exactly* why. There are reasons for both oppinions. &lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;Fact:&#039;&#039;&#039; The line DID court fans rather than kids in many ways. It didn&#039;t reinvent the boat but took the exact looks, exact characters, and in some cases even exact stories the fans clamored for and did them again, only better, prettier, smarter, and more &amp;quot;realisticly&amp;quot;. In that respect it was pretty much EXACTLY what older fans of &#039;80s properties clamor for, and said fans generally loved it. But for whatever reason it never caught on with &#039;&#039;&#039;actual kids&#039;&#039;&#039; in the way the simple, campy, primitive, bowlegged original did. So some see that and blame the line&#039;s failure on the older fan mentality.&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;Also Fact:&#039;&#039;&#039; Mattel tried to sell the toyline the way they had Batman. I.E. A million goofy variations on He-man and Skelator (and one or two others) and everyone else was almost impossible to find or didn&#039;t get a figure at all. This was very much NOT what collectors wanted. Many blame it for the line&#039;s failure at retail, arguing that part of what made the original a hit where the huge variety of strange and different warriors and monsters that Mattel had left out this time in favor of flooding the shelves with He-man repaints and ill-concieved alterations (The entire wave of &amp;quot;samori repaints on stilts&amp;quot; is often pointed to, but are only one of many examples.) Some see this and blame an ill-concieved inapropriate retail stratagy aimed at marketing to kids having crippled the line&#039;s retail appeal. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Personally I think there&#039;s some truth to BOTH. For whatever reason (timing, approach, luck,) the older fan oriented cartoon never clicked with the kiddies, &#039;&#039;&#039;AND&#039;&#039;&#039; the Batman-style retail stratagy was a bad choice for a MOTU type toyline. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:17, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yes, that was the feeling I got, that is there is no clear cut side to &#039;blame&#039;, and in this case, I think we should ditch the Masters of the Universe link, given the information there contradicts the slant of this article, and in any case it&#039;s not a clear cut case of &#039;it&#039;s all the collectors fault&#039;. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Hrm, there&#039;s some legitimate thought there... but it ruins the G.I. Joe comparison.  (Why catering to adult collectors and abandoning attempts at reinvention is a losing strategy in the long run necause ther old dudes die off and uyou&#039;re not bringing new fans in.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::For what it&#039;s worth, I meant from design and marketing- I agree that the actual toyline was schitzophrenic- alternating between a slavish adherence to the original designs and case assortments aimed at kida who weren&#039;t watching the cartoon.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Here&#039;s an idea - how about one of you guys (who actually know about MOTU) edit the wikipedia article so it&#039;s more balanced, so we don&#039;t end up looking like idiots in this article? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it&#039;s worth noting that even in today&#039;s environment, the military has &#039;&#039;some&#039;&#039; pull to kids. Not so much the gay, gay fur-bikini barbarians. Sword-and-sorcery has some appeal nowadays, but mostly when it&#039;s very Japanesey kids-anime-style. (One could also note that the &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; Joe revival frankly isn&#039;t very big. It&#039;s pretty damn low-key, really, where He-Man was some major-league THIS WILL BE BIG!!! Lower expectations = greater chance of meeting and exceeding them.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I&#039;d also imagine that production costs on the 25th anniversary Joe figs are pretty darn reasonable on Hasbro&#039;s bookkeeping. They&#039;ve done similar lines for Star Wars for decades, so they know what they&#039;re doing.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m really annoyed that the GI Joe 25th line isn&#039;t available here, because Hasbro AU&#039;s last attempt to revive GI Joe in Australia totally tanked. If you can believe it, Toys R Us stores here languished under piles of unsold Cobra Trooper 6-packs, which, as I&#039;ve read in forums, collectors were fighting over. They&#039;re not on pegs anymore, so I guess they&#039;ve been shredded or incinerated by now.--[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So have we decided on this link yet? The Wikipedia link still contradicts the snarky joke link of this article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s always going to, because there will always, &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; be enough people who are going to make sure that the bullshit boogeyman &amp;quot;CASE RATIOS!! CASE RATIOS!!! KIDS WANTED ALL THOSE OBSCURE ONE-EPISODE GUYS AND USELESS MINOR VILLANS!!!!!&amp;quot; (while patently ignoring the fact that if you can&#039;t sell your &#039;&#039;two primary characters in the line&#039;&#039;, maybe there&#039;s something wrong with your franchise, not case ratios... it&#039;d be like if a Batman line couldn&#039;t sell toys of Batman) is squarely blamed for MOTU&#039;s failure. Frankly, I&#039;d say just add a note to OUR article saying &amp;quot;ignore the bullshit about case ratios. Kids just didn&#039;t want a line about a boring gay man in a fur bikini.&amp;quot; --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ignoring your general disdain for He-man here, and even the whole case ratio issue, the fact remains that saying (as our snark does) that the newer He-man line &amp;quot;catered exclusively to older collectors&amp;quot; and that this caused its failure is both unprovable, AND very widely disputed. I&#039;d say we should remove the link on those issues alone. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 15:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC) (-&#039;&#039;&#039;Edit:&#039;&#039;&#039; On a side-note, given the apparent success of the 25th ann. line and the coming movie, the critical G.I.Joe link in there may soon be meaninglessly out of date as well...)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And this is my point - we&#039;ll start looking like idiots who can&#039;t even get our facts or jokes straight if we insist on keeping these links. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I see Zac&#039;s point- but I think he&#039;s reacting to something that&#039;s not in the article.  We&#039;re holding the MOTU reboot as an example of a line that abandoned all attempt at reinvention.  Since there &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; not reinvention in the reboot line, at all, this should not be up for dispute.  &lt;br /&gt;
:::We do not say that this is &#039;&#039;why&#039;&#039; the line failed.  It probably &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039;, but we don&#039;t say that.  We merely hold it up as an apporach that&#039;s probably unhealthy for Transformers to follow.&lt;br /&gt;
:::So to be really blunt-- I don&#039;t care what whiny fanboys may have edited Wikipedia to say in support of their view that the line was perfect and viable the way it was.  &#039;&#039;&#039;A)&#039;&#039;&#039; That&#039;s masturbatory.  &#039;&#039;&#039;B)&#039;&#039;&#039; It&#039;s not what this article is talking about, so it&#039;s simply not relevant. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::But it says &#039;cater exclusively to the old-school collectors&#039;, which the line evidently did not do. In which case, regardless of if we are holding up as an approach that TF should not follow, it&#039;s not a good example in the context of the very joke-link, especially if it sends the reader to an article that disputes the joke. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::In this context, that &#039;catering&#039; refers to design, not case assortments.  We&#039;re discussing &#039;&#039;reinvention&#039;&#039;.  One does not &#039;reinvent&#039; case assortments!  And in terms of designs, characters etc... MOTU &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; cater. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::More to the point- we&#039;re discussing changign the content on &#039;&#039;this&#039;&#039; page because highly dubious artument on Wikipedia disagrees with something &#039;&#039;we&#039;re not even saying here&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If Wikipedia had a bullshit argument we were actually refuting I might kinda understand this.  But we&#039;re not!  We are actually arguing about removing a link to an article because fanboys have jizzed across it in ways that contradict things our article &#039;&#039;doesn&#039;t&#039;&#039; say, but which &#039;might run through that same fanboy&#039;s mind as they read our article.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:::::While &#039;&#039;&#039;I&#039;&#039;&#039; clearly feel the fanboy argument is specious-at-best &#039;&#039;&#039;it doesn&#039;t matter&#039;&#039;&#039;.  We say it catered to collectors.  That&#039;s it!  &#039;&#039;&#039;It&#039;s just an example of one extreme a toyline can take.&#039;&#039;&#039; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is The [[Armada (franchise)|Armada]] series , [[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]] series, the [[The Transformers: The Movie|Movie]], and [[Exclusives]] listed here?[[User:Autobot Soundwave|Autobot Soundwave]] 19:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because fans reacted [[Trukk not munky|very]] [[Pokeformers|negatively]] to a lot of these things, which went on to become major successes. It&#039;s satire. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because they ruined Transformers forever, of course.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adding to the list ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Cliff Notes version: there&#039;s very little reason to.&lt;br /&gt;
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The full version: Contrary to what [http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER many people think], this is not a list of [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER everything Transformers ever].  It is not even a list of everything Transformers that fans have ever complained about.  It is a list of the relative handful of times that something ground-shaking and new has come along, something totally different from what&#039;s gone before, something that&#039;s not exactly like 1984, that causes people to complain that Transformers has irrevocably jumped the shark and begun sinking into an irreversible oblivion.  All this doomsaying is then typically followed by the franchise surging back to life as the awful horrible new thing turns out to be a smashing success.  Alternately, the horrible new thing quietly fades away while the franchise chugs along to the next new thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thing is, anybody who&#039;s stuck with Transformers to this point is used to these reinventions.  Perspective has grown long enough that plenty of fans now understand that anything they don&#039;t like will be gone in a year or two.  Maybe I&#039;m biased &#039;cause I only read the Allspark boards and they&#039;re fairly intelligent, but cries of RUINED FOREVER are increasingly rare these days. &lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t see why Drift is on the list.  Plenty of people think he sucks, but nobody&#039;s claiming he&#039;s going to bring down the whole franchise.  &#039;&#039;All Hail Megatron&#039;&#039; would be a better candidate, because people (including myself!) &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; claiming that IDW&#039;s whole storyline has been permanently destroyed by it.  (You could also make a case for &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;bad anime&amp;quot;), &#039;&#039;Prime Directive&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;MATURE ADULT XXX&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Buckets of Blood&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Pat Lee&amp;quot;), and/or Dreamwave (&amp;quot;The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Superstars&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Bankruptcy&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t see why stolen prototypes are on the list.  Yeah, some of us make a fuss over them.  Y&#039;know why?  Because HASBRO THEMSELVES HAS SAID THEY ARE A THREAT TO THEIR BUSINESS.  There&#039;s no ridiculously overblown grasping-at-straws fandom absurdity to mock here.&lt;br /&gt;
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And I&#039;d need to see a LOT of linked posts before I&#039;d accept ROTF on the list.  I can&#039;t fathom someone having complaints about ROTF that didn&#039;t also apply to the first movie. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 12:10, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:There are new complaints about ROTF - about [[Mudflap (ROTF)|these]] [[Skids (ROTF)|two]].--[[Special:Contributions/172.162.17.159|172.162.17.159]] 08:34, 10 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with Repowers 100%.  If anything, I think the list could use some trimming.  Are people complaining about the Twins? Sure! Is ANYONE saying that Transformers, as a franchise, is over/tainted? Umm ... not that I&#039;ve heard.  Certainly no substantial block of the fandom.  &lt;br /&gt;
::And stolen prototypes, while I DO think people make a somewhat biggish deal about them, don&#039;t really belong on the list either.  A: as Repowers points out, Hasbro itself has legitimized the concern.  B: people getting annoyed about something is NOT the same as saying that the Transformers brand is beyond recovery.  Hell, even AHM seems like a stretch.  I think that most of the fandom has gained enough hindsight to know that, at worst, AHM represents a change in direction for *IDW&#039;S* story, but certainly not the end of Transformers as we know it.  Hell, ROTF and Animated were contemporary, and both were tremendous successes.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 09:48, 10 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure we we can&#039;t have Energon on this list, seeing all the complaints on this very wiki, but, eh.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 08:00, 14 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. I&#039;ve read on here that people LIKED it at first, but eventually lost faith/the will to live after watching it. The list chronicles the events which work the OTHER way around. [[User:Metal Gear NOIZE|Metal Gear NOIZE]] 09:07, 14 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I&#039;d say the list has nothing to do with how good something is, but more with complaints from the fandom and especially even before the thing in question has been released. Having said that, does RiD really warrant a place on the list? Was there really that much of a commotion about it? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 10:10, 14 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m surprised &amp;quot;G1 Bayformers&amp;quot;, aka Don Figueroa&#039;s new drawing style isn&#039;t on this list, given that almost every single opinion on it I found was a flame.....--[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:30, 14 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I loath it to the core of my petty, petty being... but i don&#039;t see it as something that will kill or taint the franchise.  Kiss-Player is still squicking people &#039;&#039;years&#039;&#039; later... the fact the Japanese owners basically licensed TF loli guro porn is something that genuinely shocks people and lessens their opinion of TF as a whole-- especially since it&#039;s not one of those &#039;worse than it sounds&#039; things, the closer you look, the more disturbing it actually gets.  An unpleasant art style inflicted on the comparatively small comic-book audience... just isn&#039;t in the same ballpark.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think it&#039;s harmed &#039;&#039;IDW&#039;&#039;&#039;s Transformers brand equity... people seem a lot more skeptical and a lot more negative of editorially-generated jerking around of the TF brand, because they&#039;ve now repeatedly dumped directions they committed to in order to chase imaginary gains that never materialized-- apparently heedless of the negative baggage piled on the story in the process.  (One more major reset in pursuit of some sort of magical deckchair configuration the editors are convinced is more important than telling good stories... and I might as well be reading DC!)  But not the brand overall.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Not to get all chat roomy here, but... what he said.  Oh dear lord, WHAT HE SAID. (Derik, have you posted that sentiment to IDW&#039;s boards?) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:49, 13 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==How about that B.O.T episode==&lt;br /&gt;
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To many fans, it&#039;s considered to be the worst G1 episode ever, so I think it should be placed here. [[User:Dinoman96|Dinoman96]] 17:23, 23 November 2009 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==Regarding deletion==&lt;br /&gt;
I see no point to having this article. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:There are 4 instances of Ruined Forever on [[Transformers timeline|this page]] alone. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I see no point to having those, either. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::JaAm has a page.  &#039;Ruined Forever&#039; is used ironically within the fandom- and this is clearly marked as a fandom article just like [[True fan]] is.  Ruined Forever is clearly more prominent than [[Dull surprise]], though possibly not as widely as [[Neon]].  (Which now that I look at it need its opening quote reformatted...)  My entire impetus for creating it was that Sntint made an ironic Ruined Forever joke on a talk page and I was like- &amp;quot;huh, why dont&#039; we have a page for that?&amp;quot;  (Well, also I wanted to wash the bad tast of [[Don Murray]] out of my brain.) &lt;br /&gt;
:::Ruined Forever appears to rest comfortably within the range of existing articles on the Wiki, but I am content to allow others to decide.  If a majority think it&#039;s not relevant to Transformers the article can be deleted, as always.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I say it&#039;s as relevant as Playskool, neon, and FIRRIB. {{unsigned|Terrocon Blot}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And Derik on the rebound to make me feel dumber.  It&#039;s not enough that I misspelled my own screenname, he&#039;s also got to sign my posts for me.  Damn that Derik.  YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWN.  --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 07:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I vote for keeping the page.  As already stated, a number of other pages already exist to explain similar fandom colloquialisms. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 13:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don&#039;t see this article as explaining anything. It seems to exist purely to ridicule fandom behavior that we don&#039;t like, and thus I see no point to keeping it. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it needs to stay too. Where else would terms like &#039;&#039;Ruined FOREVER&#039;&#039;, [[Furmanism]], and [[Chewed caramels]] be documented for all time, if not here?--[[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 14:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Do these fandom terms need to be ones that are famous/infamous, known or used widely? Then how about TFW2005&#039;s &#039;HE TELL ME&#039; (in reference to that guy who claimed Peter Cullen was cast as RID Prime)? TFW2005 is probably the most prominent of the Transformers fan sites, as well as the one that Hasbro seems to unofficially prefer. I personally never even heard of &#039;dull surprise&#039; until I read it on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Nor I.  But I don&#039;t think we&#039;re just documenting memes-- each of these articles, Truk !Munky, Chewed caramels even JaAm are &#039;about&#039; a belief/response/tendency in fandom- not just the phrase used to illustrate it.  Dull Surprise is a belief the masturbatory praise heaped on Superstar Funana was undeserved, JaAm is about the backlash against Dreamwave&#039;s style-over-sanity lack of visual storytelling, Truk not Monkey encompasses both knee-jerk hatred of BW and frustration about knee-jerks, and Chewed caramels &#039;&#039;seems&#039;&#039; to be about a desire that all TF toylines subscribe to some broad interpretation of G1&#039;s design aesthetic.  I doubt anyone put &#039;&#039;conscious thought&#039;&#039; into this, but the fandom-meme articles people found worthy of creating aren&#039;t &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; about the phrase- they&#039;re about phrases that expresses something larger about how fans relate to Transformers.&lt;br /&gt;
::(I&#039;m not familiar with &#039;HE TELL ME&#039; and where it may fall with this.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Personally, I think dull surprise is way too limited in use (basically just #wiigii! as far as I know) to really belong here, but Derik does sort of have a point about the article being about a little more than that.  I also don&#039;t know &amp;quot;HE TELL ME&amp;quot; but it sounds like something worth considering -- claims of unnamed inside sources and all that.  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oops, it was actually Peter Cullen as Armada Prime. The posts (being from 2002), no longer exists, but fortunately blitz_64 managed to save the posts for posterity [http://www.geocities.com/blitz_64/HETELLME.html The Saga of HE TELL ME and GoOP]. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Actually, Steve-o, I&#039;d say &amp;quot;Secret Inside Sources&amp;quot; would be a more appropriate meme/article to describe that last one.  Having never heard of &amp;quot;HE TELL ME&amp;quot;, and seeing that few others apparently have either, I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s as much a meme as &amp;quot;Secret Inside Sources&amp;quot; is.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 13:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Around the same period, I recall some other idiot who claimed to be a Hasbro photographer and described crazy things like the Mini-Cons becoming body armour and Prime&#039;s minicon transforming into his Matrix. These claims, while totally false, were important because they apparently spurred Aaron to emerge as ORSON and totally destroy that other dude, IIRC. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I remember that quite vividly indeed.  The guy who claimed to be the photographer actually revealed himself over [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26415&amp;amp;st=20&amp;amp;p=551756&amp;amp;#entry551756 at the Allspark this year], actually.  Oh yeah, and I think the animu thing was 4Chan leakage [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=animu].--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
I say we keep it. [[User:Compy-Rex|Compy-Rex]] 18:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)Compy-Rex&lt;br /&gt;
:If this page is deleted I will cry. [[User:(Undecided)|(Undecided)]] 05:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Usage==&lt;br /&gt;
Has &amp;quot;ruined forever&amp;quot; ever been used seriously by fans? While it describes a real and annoying sentiment, I&#039;m not sure I like basing an article on a phrase that was sarcastic in the first place. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Seconded. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m sure something very similar, at least, has been used.  But regardless, you say that it describes a real sentiment, so, what&#039;s the problem?  Can you recommend a better title for the article?  Or are you saying the article shouldn&#039;t exist at all?  --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, my vote is for not existing at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I (and a number of others) used to think &amp;quot;Rapeing my childood&amp;quot; was only used for sarcastic reasons. Then I read the thread on the promo poster for Transformers Animated, which had a number or people using the seriously. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Has Trukk not Munky ever been used in a non Ironic/Sarcastic way? It&#039;s still a catchphrase used by the fandom, as is this. Both rate articles under the fandom category, IMo.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The &#039;&#039;&#039;scream your head off in outraged panic&#039;&#039;&#039; / &#039;&#039;&#039;call for mass-firings or send death threats over something that has/will ruin/ed TF&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;behavior&#039;&#039; of this article certainly was in evidence during Beast Machines- and I think the &amp;quot;sky is falling&amp;quot; aspect is amply evidenced by the sheer &#039;&#039;number&#039;&#039; of times fans have declared TF ruined forever.  (And, clearly, been wrong every time, or every time but 1 depending on your belief system.)&lt;br /&gt;
:If you have some other title you&#039;d prefer for this article like &#039;Clicken-Little Syndrome&#039; by all means propose it and see what people think, but the article speaks to a genuine (and highly mockable) aspect of fandom psychology.&lt;br /&gt;
:And frankly, while the &#039;&#039;behavior&#039;&#039; itself is worthy of ridicule, the &#039;&#039;reason&#039;&#039; for it- an exaggerated concern for the health and future of the brand- is actually kinda &#039;&#039;endearing&#039;&#039; and speaks well of fans.  At least their &#039;&#039;hearts&#039;&#039; are in the right place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Paul Dini==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think accusing the fandom of saying the art style of Paul Dini &#039;&#039;the writer&#039;&#039; being used for Animated will &amp;quot;RUIN TRANSFORMERS FOREVER&amp;quot; is making the article simply too mean-spirited. I&#039;ve never seen any individual display the idiocy we&#039;re accusing the fandom of with that line. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 05:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Scary, scary stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the last line of the entry seems to cut a little into the humor by overexplaining. Replace it with a &amp;quot;general hasbro idiocy&amp;quot; linking to &amp;quot;transformers&amp;quot; or somesuch?&lt;br /&gt;
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==Marked for deletion.==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is getting out of hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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This page has become the epicenter of an edit war that has gone on for nearly a week now.  As of the time of this writing, only six other pages link to this article.  While I fully support the light tone of Teletraan I, and I understand that some explanation of aspects of the fandom complete the Wiki, I believe this particular article and debate at this point only detracts from the issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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I DO agree that it was biased in the form in which it existed before our anonymous editor &amp;quot;friend&amp;quot; decided to change it, but I do not think that matters any longer.  This article does not add anything inherently positive to the wiki, indeed, it does not chronicle anything positive &#039;&#039;or&#039;&#039; negative about Transformers itself at all.  Its relation to Transformers is tangential at best.&lt;br /&gt;
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By deleting this, we would not lose anything except the beginnings of what appear to be the modern equivalent of a Usenet flamewar.  Deleting it, I believe, can only benefit Teletraan I. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 12:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I whole-heartedly agree. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree. I didn&#039;t feel this article was necessary, and I still don&#039;t. I agree that the fandom is full of idiots who never bothered to grow up after 1986, but our mockery of them doesn&#039;t belong in the wiki. Not to say that Mister &amp;quot;integrity of the characters&amp;quot; is right, though. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 12:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m putting in a vote for keeping it. It&#039;s a fun article to read, and it speaks a lot of truth in it&#039;s wonderfully snarky way.--[[User:Gouki|Gouki]] 12:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Snarkyness can be fun but this article is just pushing it, IMO. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think it should stay, it&#039;s funny.  Also, if you delete it then the terrorists win.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I would keep it.  I think it describes a real sentiment, that needs to be pointed out as overblown.  [[User:JW|JW]] 13:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
The edit war was only between registered users and a single unregistered dude.  I&#039;ve fixed things, at least for the moment, by protecting the page from unregistered editors.  If you&#039;re gonna get in a pissy editing war, we&#039;d damn well better know who you are.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Our anonymous friend is from the Netherlands, if anybody cares. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 14:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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This &amp;quot;Ruined FOREVER&amp;quot; article is stupid and don&#039;t make any sense. Its just shit&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[Seafood Louis]].  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know if the opinion of an anon means anything, but I think this article is freaking hilarious. I was talking with a friend about TF:Animated and he said that the girl with the transforming bike &#039;ruined it permanently&#039; so I linked him this article. He laughed and said, &#039;ok, well maybe I&#039;m over-reacting.&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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I think the article is funny and provides valuable perspective. {{unsigned|66.167.253.76}}&lt;br /&gt;
: Well said, citizen.  [[User:JW|JW]] 16:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, you&#039;ve cancelled out the other anon from earlier, at any rate.  And yeah, I agree with your assessment of it.--[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 22:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Same --[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I happen to think this article is incredibly useful in charting the tendency for all fans everywhere (but especially TF fans) to react in comical and hyperbolic ways. I think the breadth of what people determine can/has ruined TF forever automatically makes the article an amusing and insightful look for the novice fan into the fandom&#039;s reactionary past.&lt;br /&gt;
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Indeed, I actually have shown this article to people just coming back (or getting into) TF. It&#039;s inspired about as many laughs as it has genuine curiosity as to what the fandom and franchise are like as entities. Isn&#039;t that the idea of this wiki? I would think reference materials as to the history of the fandom, good and bad, are always a boon.&lt;br /&gt;
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(and that aside, I just think it&#039;s really, really funny)&lt;br /&gt;
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.... Aaaaaaand I had to go and screw up. Bah. That&#039;s me above. --[[User:Cmdr Crayfish|Cmdr Crayfish]] 10:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Where do we draw the line?==&lt;br /&gt;
How do we stop this from becoming just a giant list of everything that anyone has ever expressed any dislike for ever?  Why, for instance, is &#039;&#039;The Beast Within&#039;&#039; in there?  Or Gonzo (which I thought was generally accepted as at least &#039;&#039;better&#039;&#039; than We&#039;ve, even if not as good at Mainframe)? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve kinda been watching this list grow with some mild irritation- it went from about 1 item for every 2 years to &#039;&#039;twice&#039;&#039; that in fairly short order, and that bothers me.&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve sorta resolved to edit the list down this October, pruning it (so to speak) with some opportunity for people to say what should stay and what should go.  &lt;br /&gt;
:The Beast Within has to stay though- at the &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; least it ruined the Dinobots forever- now whenever George Rodd brings up combiner Dinobots we have to grudgingly admit they&#039;re canon.  Also, it was the reason for the article&#039;s creation in the first place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Why wait?  If we want this to be a list of developments that prompted widespread fury that lingered for years, we can shorten it to &amp;quot;Actionmasters, BW, BM, Armada, Hallit, and Bay,&amp;quot; and perhaps a few others, right now.  Then a &amp;quot;Trivia&amp;quot; note saying that The Beast Within really DID ruin Transformers, or at least Dinobots, forever.  Just a thought... but yeah, having every single series in there dilutes the point.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Problem is, how do you decide what deserves to be listed as ruining TF forever, if none of it really did in the first place. I&#039;ve seen just about everything listed there used as an example of why ____ TF series/movie/toyline will fail--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, Thy, I&#039;d append your list with a general &amp;quot;*-masters&amp;quot; thing, as a lot of armchair CEOs claim that the entire -master trend killed the line, not the fact that it had, you know, run its course.  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 14:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ll just basically agree with Thy and Hoop that whatever&#039;s listed here should have a certain &amp;quot;endurance&amp;quot; as a scapegoat. The turnaround of opinion on Animated was what, two weeks? &amp;quot;* Masters&amp;quot; certainly counts, as should Pretenders. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::What, a simple a Google newsgroup search for [http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22killed+transformers%22&amp;amp;start=10&amp;amp;sa=N&amp;amp;scoring=d&amp;amp;ie=utf-8&amp;amp;oe=utf-8&amp;amp;|&amp;quot;killed transformers&amp;quot;] ain&#039;t enough? /:] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 05:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I doubt I&#039;d get objections if I added it, but I&#039;d like to throw it by the community: Should we readd [[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 04:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I really think Animated should stay in there, if only because it&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;such a dramatic departure.&#039;&#039;&#039; Turn around was fast, but the initial reaction was strong. I mean, for the first time in fifteen years of being a fan, I actually found myself muttering &amp;quot;My god... they&#039;ve finally done it. It&#039;s ruined...&amp;quot; --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 05:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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beast wars didnt reuin tf beast machines sorta did but it was still quite good ,if u ignore some minor things - Unsigned post by [[User:80.6.180.141|80.6.180.141]]&lt;br /&gt;
:You&#039;re missing the point of the article, then.  The point is that every time something new comes along, the fandom screams about how it will ruin Transformers forever, when in reality it&#039;s usually the opposite. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 22:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Last Deletion Locked in?==&lt;br /&gt;
Spotted a couple of points on the list removed by [[Special:Contributions/Teletraan|someone who seems to like deleting stuff just because]], but when I tried to restore the page, it was already locked.  Were his edits accepted, then?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:There are two facets to this.  First, without occasional pruning, the list in this article tends to grow, and grow, and grow.  Every now and then, someone has to come along and cut it back.  Since this is a wiki, the question of what gets cut is made by the person willing to do the cutting.&lt;br /&gt;
:The second facet is that the items cut were in fact less core to the &amp;quot;ruined forever&amp;quot; concept.  &amp;quot;Runined forever&amp;quot; is a cry that springs up whenever &#039;&#039;something new is added to the Transformers brand&#039;&#039; by HasTak, and it happens every single time.  Thus, the fans &#039;&#039;can&#039;t&#039;&#039; ruin TF forver, because they don&#039;t add new canon.  And, while HasTak &#039;&#039;can&#039;&#039; ruin TF forever, it&#039;s because they&#039;re the only ones who can do so.  I.e., one of the cut items was in error, and one was redundant.  [[User:JW|JW]] 15:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fair enough, I suppose.  It was a combination of both the deletions and the person who committed them that made me question their validity.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yah, user Teletraan is not exactly a primo contributor.  Still, this particular edit seems (at minimum) defensible.  [[User:JW|JW]] 17:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Masters of the Universe link==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve never, ever been interested in MOTU, so I have no idea what was the cause of the revamp line&#039;s failure, but given the extreme slant of the article, I can only assume it failed because it concentrated on collectors rather than kids. If so, why does it link to a Wikipedia article that cites Mattel&#039;s &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;excessive focus on attempting to mass-market the line to a new generation of children rather than focusing on a safer collector-based approach&amp;quot;&#039;&#039; as the reason for the line&#039;s failure? Am I missing something or does that sound like the line tanked because it focused on selling toys to kids rather than what this article is railing against? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
: Guess who wrote the Wikipedia article.  (Hint: It wasn&#039;t kids.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;Fact:&#039;&#039;&#039; The line DID court fans rather than kids in many ways. It didn&#039;t reinvent the boat but took the exact looks, exact characters, and in some cases even exact stories the fans clamored for and did them again, only better, prettier, smarter, and more &amp;quot;realisticly&amp;quot;. In that respect it was pretty much EXACTLY what older fans of &#039;80s properties clamor for, and said fans generally loved it. But for whatever reason it never caught on with &#039;&#039;&#039;actual kids&#039;&#039;&#039; in the way the simple, campy, primitive, bowlegged original did. So some see that and blame the line&#039;s failure on the older fan mentality.&lt;br /&gt;
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::&#039;&#039;&#039;Also Fact:&#039;&#039;&#039; Mattel tried to sell the toyline the way they had Batman. I.E. A million goofy variations on He-man and Skelator (and one or two others) and everyone else was almost impossible to find or didn&#039;t get a figure at all. This was very much NOT what collectors wanted. Many blame it for the line&#039;s failure at retail, arguing that part of what made the original a hit where the huge variety of strange and different warriors and monsters that Mattel had left out this time in favor of flooding the shelves with He-man repaints and ill-concieved alterations (The entire wave of &amp;quot;samori repaints on stilts&amp;quot; is often pointed to, but are only one of many examples.) Some see this and blame an ill-concieved inapropriate retail stratagy aimed at marketing to kids having crippled the line&#039;s retail appeal. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Personally I think there&#039;s some truth to BOTH. For whatever reason (timing, approach, luck,) the older fan oriented cartoon never clicked with the kiddies, &#039;&#039;&#039;AND&#039;&#039;&#039; the Batman-style retail stratagy was a bad choice for a MOTU type toyline. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:17, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Yes, that was the feeling I got, that is there is no clear cut side to &#039;blame&#039;, and in this case, I think we should ditch the Masters of the Universe link, given the information there contradicts the slant of this article, and in any case it&#039;s not a clear cut case of &#039;it&#039;s all the collectors fault&#039;. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Hrm, there&#039;s some legitimate thought there... but it ruins the G.I. Joe comparison.  (Why catering to adult collectors and abandoning attempts at reinvention is a losing strategy in the long run necause ther old dudes die off and uyou&#039;re not bringing new fans in.)&lt;br /&gt;
::::For what it&#039;s worth, I meant from design and marketing- I agree that the actual toyline was schitzophrenic- alternating between a slavish adherence to the original designs and case assortments aimed at kida who weren&#039;t watching the cartoon.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Here&#039;s an idea - how about one of you guys (who actually know about MOTU) edit the wikipedia article so it&#039;s more balanced, so we don&#039;t end up looking like idiots in this article? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it&#039;s worth noting that even in today&#039;s environment, the military has &#039;&#039;some&#039;&#039; pull to kids. Not so much the gay, gay fur-bikini barbarians. Sword-and-sorcery has some appeal nowadays, but mostly when it&#039;s very Japanesey kids-anime-style. (One could also note that the &amp;quot;big&amp;quot; Joe revival frankly isn&#039;t very big. It&#039;s pretty damn low-key, really, where He-Man was some major-league THIS WILL BE BIG!!! Lower expectations = greater chance of meeting and exceeding them.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah, I&#039;d also imagine that production costs on the 25th anniversary Joe figs are pretty darn reasonable on Hasbro&#039;s bookkeeping. They&#039;ve done similar lines for Star Wars for decades, so they know what they&#039;re doing.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m really annoyed that the GI Joe 25th line isn&#039;t available here, because Hasbro AU&#039;s last attempt to revive GI Joe in Australia totally tanked. If you can believe it, Toys R Us stores here languished under piles of unsold Cobra Trooper 6-packs, which, as I&#039;ve read in forums, collectors were fighting over. They&#039;re not on pegs anymore, so I guess they&#039;ve been shredded or incinerated by now.--[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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So have we decided on this link yet? The Wikipedia link still contradicts the snarky joke link of this article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s always going to, because there will always, &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; be enough people who are going to make sure that the bullshit boogeyman &amp;quot;CASE RATIOS!! CASE RATIOS!!! KIDS WANTED ALL THOSE OBSCURE ONE-EPISODE GUYS AND USELESS MINOR VILLANS!!!!!&amp;quot; (while patently ignoring the fact that if you can&#039;t sell your &#039;&#039;two primary characters in the line&#039;&#039;, maybe there&#039;s something wrong with your franchise, not case ratios... it&#039;d be like if a Batman line couldn&#039;t sell toys of Batman) is squarely blamed for MOTU&#039;s failure. Frankly, I&#039;d say just add a note to OUR article saying &amp;quot;ignore the bullshit about case ratios. Kids just didn&#039;t want a line about a boring gay man in a fur bikini.&amp;quot; --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ignoring your general disdain for He-man here, and even the whole case ratio issue, the fact remains that saying (as our snark does) that the newer He-man line &amp;quot;catered exclusively to older collectors&amp;quot; and that this caused its failure is both unprovable, AND very widely disputed. I&#039;d say we should remove the link on those issues alone. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 15:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC) (-&#039;&#039;&#039;Edit:&#039;&#039;&#039; On a side-note, given the apparent success of the 25th ann. line and the coming movie, the critical G.I.Joe link in there may soon be meaninglessly out of date as well...)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And this is my point - we&#039;ll start looking like idiots who can&#039;t even get our facts or jokes straight if we insist on keeping these links. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I see Zac&#039;s point- but I think he&#039;s reacting to something that&#039;s not in the article.  We&#039;re holding the MOTU reboot as an example of a line that abandoned all attempt at reinvention.  Since there &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; not reinvention in the reboot line, at all, this should not be up for dispute.  &lt;br /&gt;
:::We do not say that this is &#039;&#039;why&#039;&#039; the line failed.  It probably &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039;, but we don&#039;t say that.  We merely hold it up as an apporach that&#039;s probably unhealthy for Transformers to follow.&lt;br /&gt;
:::So to be really blunt-- I don&#039;t care what whiny fanboys may have edited Wikipedia to say in support of their view that the line was perfect and viable the way it was.  &#039;&#039;&#039;A)&#039;&#039;&#039; That&#039;s masturbatory.  &#039;&#039;&#039;B)&#039;&#039;&#039; It&#039;s not what this article is talking about, so it&#039;s simply not relevant. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::But it says &#039;cater exclusively to the old-school collectors&#039;, which the line evidently did not do. In which case, regardless of if we are holding up as an approach that TF should not follow, it&#039;s not a good example in the context of the very joke-link, especially if it sends the reader to an article that disputes the joke. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::::In this context, that &#039;catering&#039; refers to design, not case assortments.  We&#039;re discussing &#039;&#039;reinvention&#039;&#039;.  One does not &#039;reinvent&#039; case assortments!  And in terms of designs, characters etc... MOTU &#039;&#039;did&#039;&#039; cater. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::More to the point- we&#039;re discussing changign the content on &#039;&#039;this&#039;&#039; page because highly dubious artument on Wikipedia disagrees with something &#039;&#039;we&#039;re not even saying here&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If Wikipedia had a bullshit argument we were actually refuting I might kinda understand this.  But we&#039;re not!  We are actually arguing about removing a link to an article because fanboys have jizzed across it in ways that contradict things our article &#039;&#039;doesn&#039;t&#039;&#039; say, but which &#039;might run through that same fanboy&#039;s mind as they read our article.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:::::While &#039;&#039;&#039;I&#039;&#039;&#039; clearly feel the fanboy argument is specious-at-best &#039;&#039;&#039;it doesn&#039;t matter&#039;&#039;&#039;.  We say it catered to collectors.  That&#039;s it!  &#039;&#039;&#039;It&#039;s just an example of one extreme a toyline can take.&#039;&#039;&#039; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is The [[Armada (franchise)|Armada]] series , [[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]] series, the [[The Transformers: The Movie|Movie]], and [[Exclusives]] listed here?[[User:Autobot Soundwave|Autobot Soundwave]] 19:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because fans reacted [[Trukk not munky|very]] [[Pokeformers|negatively]] to a lot of these things, which went on to become major successes. It&#039;s satire. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Because they ruined Transformers forever, of course.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adding to the list ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Cliff Notes version: there&#039;s very little reason to.&lt;br /&gt;
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The full version: Contrary to what [http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER many people think], this is not a list of [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER everything Transformers ever].  It is not even a list of everything Transformers that fans have ever complained about.  It is a list of the relative handful of times that something ground-shaking and new has come along, something totally different from what&#039;s gone before, something that&#039;s not exactly like 1984, that causes people to complain that Transformers has irrevocably jumped the shark and begun sinking into an irreversible oblivion.  All this doomsaying is then typically followed by the franchise surging back to life as the awful horrible new thing turns out to be a smashing success.  Alternately, the horrible new thing quietly fades away while the franchise chugs along to the next new thing.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thing is, anybody who&#039;s stuck with Transformers to this point is used to these reinventions.  Perspective has grown long enough that plenty of fans now understand that anything they don&#039;t like will be gone in a year or two.  Maybe I&#039;m biased &#039;cause I only read the Allspark boards and they&#039;re fairly intelligent, but cries of RUINED FOREVER are increasingly rare these days. &lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t see why Drift is on the list.  Plenty of people think he sucks, but nobody&#039;s claiming he&#039;s going to bring down the whole franchise.  &#039;&#039;All Hail Megatron&#039;&#039; would be a better candidate, because people (including myself!) &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; claiming that IDW&#039;s whole storyline has been permanently destroyed by it.  (You could also make a case for &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;bad anime&amp;quot;), &#039;&#039;Prime Directive&#039;&#039; (&amp;quot;MATURE ADULT XXX&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Buckets of Blood&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Pat Lee&amp;quot;), and/or Dreamwave (&amp;quot;The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Superstars&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Bankruptcy&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t see why stolen prototypes are on the list.  Yeah, some of us make a fuss over them.  Y&#039;know why?  Because HASBRO THEMSELVES HAS SAID THEY ARE A THREAT TO THEIR BUSINESS.  There&#039;s no ridiculously overblown grasping-at-straws fandom absurdity to mock here.&lt;br /&gt;
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And I&#039;d need to see a LOT of linked posts before I&#039;d accept ROTF on the list.  I can&#039;t fathom someone having complaints about ROTF that didn&#039;t also apply to the first movie. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 12:10, 25 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:There are new complaints about ROTF - about [[Mudflap (ROTF)|these]] [[Skids (ROTF)|two]].--[[Special:Contributions/172.162.17.159|172.162.17.159]] 08:34, 10 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with Repowers 100%.  If anything, I think the list could use some trimming.  Are people complaining about the Twins? Sure! Is ANYONE saying that Transformers, as a franchise, is over/tainted? Umm ... not that I&#039;ve heard.  Certainly no substantial block of the fandom.  &lt;br /&gt;
::And stolen prototypes, while I DO think people make a somewhat biggish deal about them, don&#039;t really belong on the list either.  A: as Repowers points out, Hasbro itself has legitimized the concern.  B: people getting annoyed about something is NOT the same as saying that the Transformers brand is beyond recovery.  Hell, even AHM seems like a stretch.  I think that most of the fandom has gained enough hindsight to know that, at worst, AHM represents a change in direction for *IDW&#039;S* story, but certainly not the end of Transformers as we know it.  Hell, ROTF and Animated were contemporary, and both were tremendous successes.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 09:48, 10 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not sure we we can&#039;t have Energon on this list, seeing all the complaints on this very wiki, but, eh.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 08:00, 14 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. I&#039;ve read on here that people LIKED it at first, but eventually lost faith/the will to live after watching it. The list chronicles the events which work the OTHER way around. [[User:Metal Gear NOIZE|Metal Gear NOIZE]] 09:07, 14 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I&#039;d say the list has nothing to do with how good something is, but more with complaints from the fandom and especially even before the thing in question has been released. Having said that, does RiD really warrant a place on the list? Was there really that much of a commotion about it? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 10:10, 14 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m surprised &amp;quot;G1 Bayformers&amp;quot;, aka Don Figueroa&#039;s new drawing style isn&#039;t on this list, given that almost every single opinion on it I found was a flame.....--[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:30, 14 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I loath it to the core of my petty, petty being... but i don&#039;t see it as something that will kill or taint the franchise.  Kiss-Player is still squicking people &#039;&#039;years&#039;&#039; later... the fact the Japanese owners basically licensed TF loli guro porn is something that genuinely shocks people and lessens their opinion of TF as a whole-- especially since it&#039;s not one of those &#039;worse than it sounds&#039; things, the closer you look, the more disturbing it actually gets.  An unpleasant art style inflicted on the comparatively small comic-book audience... just isn&#039;t in the same ballpark.&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think it&#039;s harmed &#039;&#039;IDW&#039;&#039;&#039;s Transformers brand equity... people seem a lot more skeptical and a lot more negative of editorially-generated jerking around of the TF brand, because they&#039;ve now repeatedly dumped directions they committed to in order to chase imaginary gains that never materialized-- apparently heedless of the negative baggage piled on the story in the process.  (One more major reset in pursuit of some sort of magical deckchair configuration the editors are convinced is more important than telling good stories... and I might as well be reading DC!)  But not the brand overall.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Not to get all chat roomy here, but... what he said.  Oh dear lord, WHAT HE SAID. (Derik, have you posted that sentiment to IDW&#039;s boards?) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:49, 13 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==How about that B.O.T episode==&lt;br /&gt;
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To many fans, it&#039;s considered to be the worst G1 episode ever, so I think it should be placed here.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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