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Dreadlocktronus: /* Theft of the Golden Disk (is he a Constructicon?) */ new section

[[File:Dinobotbwx.jpg|right|thumb|replaced main image]]
So, do we call the clone a seperate character? But for Rampage's death, he would have... remaiend so, but it becoems complicated with DB posessing his own clone, and the two never really... existed side-by-side enough to require seperate pages... And yet- by Wiki standards we seem to consider clones seperate dudes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

TM2 Dinobot ''is'' a separate character. I don't think it's complicated at all, regardless of his totally unexplained personality change in the finale. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

<nowiki>*lick*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 09:17, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

For Dinobot's TM2 entry, notarize that it's a Predacon clone created by Megatron, and decidedly not the original. In it's story background, simply say that 'Originally, an episode was planned which showed Rattrap uploading the original Dinobot's memories into the clone. This episode was not made, however, leaving a serious plot hole for the final season of Beast Wars, and the handling of the Dinobot TM2 character.' --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:<nowiki>*scratches head*</nowiki> Soo... if you make a new body for Dinobot and load his memories into it off a data backup, it's a new character. But if you make a new body for '''Optimus Prime'''... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

:: Point being is that we never actually SEE Dinobot II's memory implant (aside from a very well done fan-comic), so he's still a completely seperate being (a literal twin brother), as far as the cartoon's involved. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

:: No one ever "made a new body ''for'' Dinobot," Megatron created a clone of the original that would be loyal to him, and gave it life with half of someone else's spark. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
::: What he said. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:12, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

::::Oh! Liek prowl and Chip! Why didn't you jsut say so? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

How would the *other* Dinobot clone fit in? You know, the one that he ate?

I would give "Double Dinobot" a new page.
P.S. What about a line or two about the Cyber-Raptors?[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 00:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

IIRC, Dinobot's nontransforming clone was officially named 'Clone One.' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:01, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Dillonburg?! --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 16:56, 23 May 2017 (EDT)

===Character entries===
They should be written "in universe," without breaking the fourth wall. Meaning no "But Jhiaxus how do you live, I thought you died in G2 #11." Never reference the name of an episode out-right. However, you can put the little footnote links to episode pages instead, as I have demonstrated. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

::Ah. I see, I'll make sure to do that in the future. [[User:Tantrum|Tantrum]] 17:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but am I the only one who thinkks ldans died to an hero sounds awful

No. That's the ''joke''. --[[User: EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 13:29, 24 January 2007

Yes, but it doesn't suit the feel of the article

== Attention, Kitbashers! ==

I've noticed through several kitbash websites that A lot of people like to kitbash Dinobot's head, making it much more show accurate. Is there anyone who is willing to do this for a commission? If so, contact me via my discussion page. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

== Protection (Main Caption) ==

We should probably get this article protected so people will stop changing the main caption. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
:Needs more Worf captions. Dinobot is Worf.

I personally think the main caption is a needlessly obscure reference to a totally obscure fanfic, and should be replaced by something, y'know, ''funny,'' instead of being treated as sacred. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 20:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:Anyone? [[User:JW|JW]] 13:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But that fanfic ''is'' funny. The entire thing is comedy gold! --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'll stipulate that, but the question is whether the joke makes sense to a sufficient number of the readers of this wiki. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Not all jokes around here are by consensus. There's a ton of 'em that I don't get at all, but I assume ''someone'' does. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::::On the one hand, a wiki is nothing ''but'' consensus.
::::More to the point, the quote in question may be contentious enough to warrant its replacement. I.e., it may be dragging the article down. However, I'll grant that, unless there's a lot of support for changing it, and someone suggests a brilliant candidate, it should probably stand. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:34, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:But the problem is that anyone hardly knows it, even the fans. I saw it after i was wondering why the caption was a link...unless i'm missing something here.--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:24, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:The quote is from a very well-known bad fanfic, and there is a link to that fanfic right there with the quote. We don't generally pick our captions on the basis of what is understandable by the most people, but even if we did, the fact that there is a link ''right there'' means it has more explanation than a great many of our jokes. It may be a relatively obscure fanfic now, but nearly anybody who used to read alt.toys.transformers will know of it, and that's not exactly a small group. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:22, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
::I submit that the percentage of current readers of this wiki who were readers of a.t.tf back in the day is probably smaller than you imagine. Still, I'll let the matter rest, since some of the bastions of this wiki clearly love the silly thing. [[User:JW|JW]] 03:30, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

== Mc Dinobot now a new character, kinda ==

The IDW profile book actually gave MC Dinobot a story, wich is neat, but where does that info go? He was apparently a second failed attempt (between [[Double Dinobot]] and [[Dinobot II]]) by Megs to clone Dinobot. IDW puts him as a subsection of Dinobot II. We give D2 and Double Dino each their own pages, so do we now give him one too? Thoughts?--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:47, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

: on a totaly unrelated note, megatron sure likes to clone the guy, does he?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

== About Animated... ==

You know, it's funny? We now have a BlackArachnia in the new Animated... I've been hearing rumors (through this site, actually) about Waspinator coming into this... I could actually come to enjoy Animated with these BW crossovers if Dinobot was also invited to the party somehow, too. Wishful thinking, I suppose. Of course, if that happened... *sighs* you'd have to also bring in Rattrap, I suppose. Part of what made Dinobot so remarkable, almost legendary in TF history aside from his sense of honor... is the verbally-adversarial friendship between Dinobot and Rattrap. It actually reminds me of Spock and McCoy from Star Trek. Next to G1 itself... Dinobot is the one and ONLY thing about Transformers, that I truly miss. (Any and all outside idea suggestions have been deleted by the anonymous author.)

[[Special:Contributions/68.9.151.104|68.9.151.104]] 17:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)Anonymous

:I feel safe in assuming that a restriction against outside ideas would be written such that there is no loophole for anonymous suggestions. It would be "No suggestions period".
:Also, even as an anonymous user, you still are granted a user Talk page for correspondance. Please read yours. This sort of discussion that you've started is not what article Talk pages on the Wiki are for; they are for discussing improvements to the site. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 17:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

== Dirk Dinobot ==

I was wondering if there was any truth to the rumour that a fan asked Scott McNeil to sign a copy of Dirk Dinobot at a con?
* If it's not true, it is now. http://www.youtube.com/user/TJOmega#p/u

== Misassembly? ==

The entry on Dinobot's original toy claims that the arms were misassembled. I've had mine for so long that I wouldn't remember whether I'd fixed anything, but I've been looking at pictures of carded Dinobots and I'm just not seeing the problem. Can someone explain what I should be looking for? [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 21:55, 27 December 2013 (EST)

== Theft of the Golden Disk (is he a Constructicon?) ==

In Theft of the Golden Disk, Dinobot transforms into an excavator. Why would he have this alt mode if he could have a, let's say, a tank as his alt mode. He might as well be a decent of the Constructicons (or the Dinobots... Who knows?).

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Fire in the Sky

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{{episode
|series=G1toon
|ep=7
|series2=SRLFtoon
|ep2=62
|prev2=Masquerade
|next2=Fire on the Mountain (episode)
|image=FireintheSky DecepticonsrepairingSkyfire.jpg
|caption=Er, guys, I'm not sure that fire is in the ''sky''.
|title="Fire in the Sky"
|production code=#700-04
|airdate=[[December 8]], 1984
|written by=[[Dick Robbins]], [[Bryce Malek]] and [[Alfred A. Pegal]]
|animation studio=[[Toei Animation|Toei]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}
'''While siphoning the Earth of its energy, the Decepticons uncover a long-lost colleague of Starscream.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:FireintheSky snowball.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|This snow isn't as fun as Spike said it was!]]
What's this? A blanket of snow over the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s volcano? The Autobots and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike]] engaged in a snowball fight? In July? In the middle of the desert? Something is amiss with the world's weather. According to [[Teletraan I]]'s scans, temperatures are 40 degrees below normal and falling rapidly.

[[File:FireintheSky Reflector draincrystal.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Im in ur ice cave, steamcleanin ur crystal]]
Somewhere inside the [[Arctic|Arctic Circle]], the Decepticons have tapped a crystal shaft leading directly to the [[Earth's core]] to siphon the planet's heat energy into [[energon cube]]s. While excavating the icy caverns surrounding the crystal, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] uncovers a Transformer frozen in the ice. [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] recognizes it as his old colleague [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]].

The Autobots finally pinpoint the source of the Earth's energy drain, and Teletraan I confirms Decepticon activity surrounding a crystal outgrowth in the Arctic Circle. [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] hastily assembles an assault team, and they [[roll out]], with Spike and [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] accompanying.

The Decepticons have hauled the frozen titan out of the ice and proceed to repair it. Starscream explains his past: [[MYA|millions of years ago]], before the final falling out between the Autobots and Decepticons, Starscream and Skyfire were both explorers. They were charting an unknown planet, Earth, when a storm separated the two and Skyfire was lost.

Skyfire awakens and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] welcomes him to the Decepticon cause. Though Skyfire is grateful for having been thawed out, he shows doubts about being a warrior rather than a scientist. He commits to the cause out of loyalty to Starscream. When the Autobots arrive in the Arctic, Skyfire targets them for destruction.

[[File:FireintheSky Skyfires magicAutobotsymbol.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|A changing faction symbol? It's Sideways! Get him!]]
Skyfire opens fire, scattering the Autobots. Spike tumbles through the ice into the arctic waters. Sparkplug pulls him out, but they are trapped on an ice floe. They cry out for help. Skyfire is intrigued by the new lifeforms and tries to befriend them, not realizing that they are terrified by Decepticons. Spike and Sparkplug try to explain that it's the Decepticons that are the true monsters. The naïve Skyfire takes the humans to Megatron to prove the Decepticons' good intentions. Megatron and Starscream promptly imprison Spike and Sparkplug behind bars of ice, and plan their execution, leaving Skyfire troubled.

Optimus leads his Autobot team into the icy caverns, but a cave-in splits the team in two. Prime's group finds the humans and frees them, while the other team—including [[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]], [[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]], [[Hound (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hound]] and [[Gears (G1)|Gears]]—find the crystal shaft tap. Megatron discovers this second group and has his soldiers capture them. To test Skyfire's loyalty, Starscream orders Skyfire to execute the captives. Skyfire refuses, and in a fit of rage, Starscream blasts his old friend. Starscream then blasts the prisoners to pieces.

Well, not really. Once again, one of Hound's holograms has saved the day, creating the illusion of blasted Autobot parts. When Starscream departs, Hound drops the illusion. An ailing Skyfire awakens and is pleased to see the Autobots functioning. The desperate Autobot teams unite as Ratchet repairs the fallen titan. [[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]] spies Ratchet's work and reports to Megatron. The Decepticon leader chews out Starscream for failing to kill the prisoners. Megatron orders his soldiers to attack.

[[File:FireintheSky Memorial.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|"Rest in peace, Skyfire." "[[Fire on the Mountain (episode)|I'm not dead!]]" "I can still hear his voice on the wind... *sniff*"]]
As the battle progresses, Prime and Megatron each grab shards of crystals and engage in a duel. Skyfire appears on the battlefield, and Megatron orders him to attack Prime. Skyfire refuses, and proudly declares himself an Autobot, attacking Megatron and his Decepticons instead.

The battle takes to the air as Starscream and Skyfire engage in an aerial dogfight. A midair collision sends Skyfire out of control. In a last ditch effort, his blasts bury the crystal, but Skyfire crashes into the ice. The Autobots mourn Skyfire's heroic sacrifice.
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Hound (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hound]] (4)
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] (5)
*[[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]] (6)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (7)
*[[Gears (G1)|Gears]] (8)
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]] (14)
*[[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] (15)
|c2=
*[[Skywarp (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Skywarp]] (9)
*[[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] (10)
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (11)
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (12)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (13)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (17)
*[[Thundercracker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Thundercracker]] (18)
*[[Ravage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ravage]] (19)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]] (20)
|c3=
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike Witwicky]] (1)
*[[Sparkplug Witwicky]] (16)
}}

==Quotes==
"Not snowman, Spike. Snowbot! There's a flurry in a hurry!"
:—A snow-covered '''Jazz''', surprising Spike

"Okay, Spike. You rat on me, I'll splat on you!"
:—'''Bumblebee''', after Spike warns Ratchet about Bumblebee's incoming snowball

[[File:FireintheSky Gears crashes through ice.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Ironically, Gears is the one with the junk in his trunk. Well, truck bed, anyway.]]
"Ironhide's carrying too much lead in his caboose!"
:—'''Ratchet''', predating the "junk in the trunk" standard after they all fall through an ice sheet

"Lucky for you my laser has a defrost cycle."
:—'''Cliffjumper''' breaks Spike and Sparkplug out of an ice prison.

"Well, I'll be reprogrammed with a rivet roller."
:—'''Ironhide''' reveals yet another unusual piece of Cybertronian technology.

"I'm a scientist, not an executioner!"
:—'''Skyfire''' objecting to Starscream's demand that he execute the captives.

"You shall pay for your treachery!"
:—'''Starscream''' to Skyfire. You know what, Starscream-- never mind.

"He won't be forgotten, Spike. He will live forever... so long as freedom exists. We shall remember you, Skyfire."
:—'''Optimus Prime'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s eulogy for Skyfire

==Notes==
===Production information===
* First draft script: 9th July 1984
* Script revised by [[Ron Friedman]]: 11th July 1984
* Final script: 19th July 1984
* Returned to the US for telecine: 30th November 1984

===Animation or technical glitches===
[[File:FireintheSky Gears AninconvienientTruth.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|ManBearPig - I'm serial!]]
*Jazz laughs at Spike's "I get the drift" line in Cliffjumper's voice.
*His voice apparently stolen by Jazz, Cliffjumper oophs and grunts in a Don Messick voice as he bangs into a tree. It's similar to the "What does it instantly immobilize?" flub from the later episode "[[The Immobilizer]]".
*As Optimus Prime muses about how the heat from the [[Earth's core]] is being drained away, Gears can be seen in the background sitting in front of a console with a very small screen. But during the closeup of Gears, the screen is ''much'' larger. The screen also makes a mechanical whirring noise as the view pans across a native village, as if the screen itself were moving.
*While Megatron and Starscream are talking at the energon cube-filler machine, Reflector places an already-filled energon cube at the machine, seemingly to have it filled. In the same shot, another Reflector bot's chest is all gray.
*Rumble's mouth moves after Skywarp taunts him, but rather uncharacteristically, he doesn't actually say anything.
[[File:Fire in the sky.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"If I talk to you for two minutes, I consider you my friend."]]
*Coloring errors:
**As Starscream berates Skywarp and Rumble for standing around, Skywarp's cockpit fringe is gray instead of black, and Rumble's eyeband is gray.
**"Give him 50,000 volts" - Starscream's "collar" is red instead of gray.
**As Soundwave deploys the electrical device, his face is misdrawn with a strangely pointy faceplate, and his eyeband is colored gray instead of red.
**"I knew him once" - the tip of Starscream's gun turns the same blue as his glove as he gestures.
**"Hail Cybertron!" - Skyfire's face is white instead of gray.
**Skyfire's Decepticon symbol alternates between red and purple throughout the episode, but it is mostly red.
**As the Autobots roll toward Skyfire in profile, Jazz's fenders are colored windshield blue.
**"I'll take you to Megatron, my leader" - red Decepticon symbol on Skyfire again.
**Spike and Sparkplug's fur hats are beige instead of brown as they look at each other in fear.
**"We'd better find Optimus and the others before..." Ironhide's backside is entirely dark gray; there should be some red and light gray.
**"With pleasure, Megatron!" The bridge of Starscream's nose is light gray; it should be dark gray.
**In the wide shot of Ratchet repairing Skyfire, Skyfire's got a red Decepticon symbol yet again.
**Skywarp's nosecone is all orange as he transforms and takes off.
**Prime's bumper is yellow as he spins around to transform his trailer.
**Skyfire's thruster nozzles are white as he approaches the crystal.
**As the Autobots cheer for Skyfire's apparent victory, Optimus Prime's whole torso is colored blue.
*The first bit of Skyfire that's sticking out of the ice doesn't correspond to any actual part on his body.
*After Starscream melts away more of the ice, that first part of Skyfire is no longer sticking out.
*While watching the Sky Spy's footage, Spike describes a "weird light", but the screen shows nothing of the sort. The big, green, not-a-light crystal is plain as day, though.
*When the Autobots roll out, the background is moving far too quickly, making them appear to be sliding across frame while transforming. It doesn't help that they aren't drawn very well, either.
*Appearing / disappearing Autobots:
**Only Prime, Jazz, Ironhide and Hound are shown rolling out. Gears shows up in the convoy on the way to the north pole. Cliffjumper, Ratchet and Bumblebee finally show up when the group transforms in front of Skyfire.
*In Skyfire's memory monitor, a distant shot shows Starscream looking like a short, dumpy version of [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]].
*When Skyfire first wakes up and asks where he is, Starscream's mouth appears to be moving, but he isn't actually saying anything. In the same shot, the back of Thundercracker's head is white instead of black.
*The base of Megatron's fusion cannon is the same silver as his arm, as he introduces himself to Skyfire.
*When the Autobots stop in front of Skyfire, they're ''tiny'' - maybe as tall as his feet.
*When Spike yells for help, one of Hound's laser blasts comes out of mid-air instead of his gun.
[[File:Skyfire-Valkyrie-Arm-FitS.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Gotta admit it... that boy has really gotten a lot better.]]
*When Skyfire picks up Spike and Sparkplug, his entire right arm, including his gun, is drawn as the Macross Valkyrie-styled arm from his [[Jetfire (G1)#Notes|original animation model]].
*In a rather odd shot set up, Skyfire is too big to fit into a cave that Megatron and Starscream stand in. He's forced to peer through the cave's opening.
*After Starscream shoots his hand, Skyfire has an extra line on his face that makes him look like an old man (the same trick later used to distinguish [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] from his Rodimus Prime persona.) His arm jointing seems oddly drawn, as well.
*When Bumblebee tells Optimus that he can't find Ironhide and the others, the animation makes him look like he's floating a foot or two above the ground.
*Prime clearly drives into the caves without his trailer. When Bumblebee reports in, Prime does have his trailer. In the next shot, he lacks the trailer again. His smokestacks are rendered as thin red lines, too.

**Later, during the big fight at the end, Prime's trailer appears again so he can use its weapons.
*Gears is missing his forearm as he and the others peer at the green crystal.
*As Hound gets to his feet, he leaves a copy of his missile launcher behind, briefly giving him ''two'' launchers. In the same shot, Ratchet's mouth goes missing.
*Megatron's missing his back gun barrel as he spins 180 at the waist.
*Optimus is shown mouthing Megatron's order to Skyfire (to destroy Optimus Prime!)
*Starscream fires strange cross-hatch lasers at Skyfire. As he swoops in, a purple Autobot symbol is briefly visible on his wing.
*Spike and Sparkplug are both shown mouthing Spike's "Belt him in the burners" line.

===Continuity errors===
*This episode's basic premise is one of the most bizarre and scientifically ludicrous conceits ever created by the cartoon - namely, the idea that draining the energy of the Earth's core would somehow severely and instantly affect its climate, causing plummeting temperatures worldwide. If internal heat generates the planet's climate, why would there be big frozen zones at the poles? Doesn't Earth actually have a big [[Sun|external heat source]] that would offset the devastating loss of this (infinitesimal) heat source?

*Teletraan I says the global average temperature has dropped by 40 degrees. To put that in context, the average temperature was about 8 degrees less than the present day ''during the last ice age.''
*What exactly do green crystals have to do with the Earth's core?
*Superhuman Spike:
**Spike not only survives (without bruising, or bleeding) a watermelon-sized snowball headshot (to the face) powerful enough to knock him off a cliff, but also rolling down said cliff with enough velocity to knock over several full-sized Autobots without so much as breaking a bone. In fact, he just gets up and is *smiling*!
**Spike falls and nearly drowns in Arctic water, and somehow is not overcome by hypothermia. It probably helps that both he and his clothes dry out about five seconds after being pulled out.
**Both Spike and Sparkplug seem none the worse for wear after being casually tossed onto solid ice by Starscream.
*Someone forgot that the Seekers have a pre-Earth design; in a flashback to millions of years ago, Starscream is shown transforming into his F-15 jet mode (millions of years before his arrival on Earth, or the invention of jets). The script for the episode ''did'' call for a Cybertronian [[alternate mode]], but evidently the animators didn't get the message.
*The Autobots can apparently drive from the United States to the Arctic in a fairly short amount of time.
*Just where did Skyfire get this whole "evil Autobots" notion, anyway? Did he miss that whole "conquer the universe" bit in Megatron's speech?
*The ad hoc icicle 'prison' created for Spike and Sparkplug first contains gaps clearly large enough for them to be able to escape through.
*Gears says that his group had better go find Optimus before they're discovered by the Decepticons. The group then stands around doing nothing until, sure enough, they're discovered by the Decepticons.
[[File:FireintheSky Reflector formation.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|And then there's this. [https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1193470528620765186?s=20 Did the script call for this]? What the hell?]]
*Couldn't four Autobot prisoners overpower their captors (Starscream and Skyfire) with relative ease? Heck, Hound's still got his missile sitting there, ready to go!
*Starscream is apparently dumb enough to think that 2 piddly little null ray blasts are enough to reduce four Autobots to scrap.
*It's never adequately explained where Skyfire got an Autobot badge from. And he tears the old one off like it's made of paper.
*Why was Skyfire's whole sacrifice even necessary? Couldn't the Autobots have buried the crystal from the ground?

===Rhino DVD release===
[[File:G1toon starscream and skyfire.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|"Are you happier having a [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|red symbol]] [[Starscream (WFC)|than a purple one]], Starscream?" "Yes! It is far more exciting! And it goes so well with my red highlights!"]]
*At the beginning of the episode, the snow falls upwards and many snow effects are missing.
*In many (more) instances, Skyfire's symbol is miscolored.
*Right after he wakes up, Skyfire has a red Decepticon insignia in his chest in one shot, before they actually imprint the symbol on him.
*When Starscream blasts Skyfire, the laser blast is missing.
*The chapter stops for this episode on the Rhino DVD are Opening / Snowbot / At the Arctic Circle / "Destruction to Autobots" / An Illusion / Skyfire is Gone

===Continuity notes===
*Aside from astroseconds, Transformers also use astrominutes as units of time.
*Gadgets and powers:
**Soundwave can transform his right forearm into a cylindrical electricity firing module capable of generating a million volts.
**Ratchet uses the same forearm-mounted laser scalpel that he had in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]".
**Laserbeak uses his forehead-mounted microphone... to broadcast a signal.
**Megatron receives that signal with a flashing of his pectoral rectangle things, a trope that will show up again in "Countdown to Extinction".
**Megatron can rotate his lower torso 180 degrees, which makes for some cool hand-to-hand combat maneuvers.
[[File:Combat deck.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|And inside of it is an even smaller trailer.]]
*Prime's [[Combat Deck (G1)|Combat Deck]] cannons make a rare appearance in this episode, emerging from a non-transformed trailer. Strangely they roll out on their own trailer.
*The first appearance of Skyfire, obviously.
*"We shall remember you, Skyfire!" Optimus solemnly vows. Yeah, especially [[Fire on the Mountain (episode)|next time we need a ride somewhere]].

===Real-world references===
*"It's educational, kids!" - we get an appearance of the Aurora Borealis.
*''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects:
**''[[Millennium Falcon]]'' engine burst as the Seekers transform and take off.
**[[Death Star]] super laser as they launch their attack a second later.
**Exploding [[X-wing Fighter]] (or an explosion aboard the Death Star) as the Autobots flee from Decepticon bombs.
**Clashing [[lightsaber]]s as Ratchet gets blasted away from Skyfire.
**[[TIE Fighter]] roar as Skywarp and Thundercracker crash.
**Clashing lightsabers again as Prime knocks Megatron's cannon away.
**''Falcon'' engine burst as Skyfire takes off.
**X-wings and TIE Fighter as Skyfire aims for the crystal.

===Trivia===
*This episode was produced as the seventh in the season, though it aired after the eighth-produced episode, "[[S.O.S. Dinobots]]".
*During the original recording of the episode, Skyfire was referred to by his original name of Jetfire, but due to his [[Jetfire (G1)#Why "Skyfire"?|name change]], several lines had to be re-recorded prior to airing. Clips of these original recordings later surfaced in early 2017.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhjuPydGVvE Transformers Fire In The Sky Extended and Deleted Scene Audio - YouTube]</ref>
*This episode contains the first time that Prime gives the famous "Transform and roll out" order.
*Strangely, the official [[Sunbow Productions]] cast list entry for "Fire in the Sky" names "Decepticon Workers" who "resemble Skywarp" as silent characters ("no dialogue") appearing in the episode. No such legion of Skywarps actually appears.
*Spike and Sparkplug have fashionable fur-lined cold-weather [[hard hat]]s with ear flaps.
*Skyfire gets what may be the only internal monologue in the entire series, as he reflects unhappily on the Decepticons ethos.
*Although the series is admittedly never ''completely'' consistent with the surroundings of [[Ark (G1)#Autobot Headquarters|Autobot Headquarters]], the type of cactus seen in the opening scenes of this episode is a {{w|Saguaro|saguaro}}. While this particular cactus is often depicted as a visual shorthand for the American Southwest, it is actually native to the Sonoran Desert, giving support to the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (manga)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]] manga's claim that Autobot Headquarters is located in [[Arizona]].
*If you don't get a laugh out of Megatron nonchalantly beaning Starscream with an energon cube, there's no hope for you.

===Foreign localization===
'''Brazilian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Fogo no Céu'''" ("Fire in the Sky")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Italian'''
:*''Title (dub 1):'' "'''Sfida tra i ghiacci'''" ("Challenge in the Ice")
:*''Title (dub 2):'' "'''Fiamme nei cieli'''" ("Flames in the Skies")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Skyfire no Saisei'''" (スカイファイヤーの再生, "Skyfire's Resurrection")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[September 26]], [[1986]]
:*The Japanese ordering of this episode places it toward the end of the series. This was done as it featured Skyfire prominently and with his toy being of [[Bandai]] design (and not sold in Japan as a Transformer), that caused some legal concerns amongst Takara (many of Skyfire's smaller scenes in other episodes were cut entirely). Though the episodes featuring him as a main character were eventually shown, the scripts were not reworked to adjust to the new chronological placement, simply being more or less direct translations of the original English versions.
:*'''Cut:''' After Jazz makes his "snow fair" joke, the pan across to Bumblebee has been cut.
:*'''Cut:''' After Cliffjumper crashes ino the snow-covered tree, the scene of him shaking his head, Hound sliding by and crashing into a cactus have been cut.
:*'''Cut:''' The scene of Gears pointing to his monitor and blaming the snow on the Decepticons and Prime walking up and bending forward have been cut.
:*'''Cut:''' After Megatron makes his speech about gathering enough Energon cubes to conquer the universe, the pan across the ice cave toward Rumble has been cut.
:*'''Cut:''' Following Teletraan-1's line, "Abnormally large energy expenditure in the Artic Circle", the scene of the monitor panning across the frozen tundra toward the large green crystal cone has been cut.
:*'''Cut:''' After the Autobots all transform and leave the Ark, the scene of Prime driving next to the cliffside and Spike's line, "Arctic Circle, here we come" have been cut.
:*'''Cut:''' After Starscream tosses Spike and Sparkplug to the ground, the following scene of him pointing his arm gun toward them and the humans reacting in horror have been cut. The sequence resumes as his firing on the roof of the ice cave to create the ice bars.
:*'''Cut:''' Once Soundwave ejects Ravage at Megatron's command, the scene of Megatron pointing Ravage in a certain direction and Ravage charging down the cave have been cut. The sequence resumes at the inward pan of the empty cave and Jazz's line about "searching these tunnels for astro-minutes".
:*'''Cut:''' Immediately following ''that'' scene, the scene of Megatron sitting down and spinning an Energon cube in his hand has been cut. The sequence resumes at his blinking chest.

'''Mandarin'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Tiān Huǒ '''" (天火, "Sky Fire")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Russian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Ogonj v nebe'''" (Огонь в небе, "Fire in the Sky")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Serbian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Vatra na nebu'''" (Ватра на небу, "Fire in the Sky")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

===Toys inspired by this episode===
*'''''[[War for Cybertron: Siege (toyline)|Siege]]'' Commander Class WFC-S28 [[Jetfire (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Jetfire]] ([[Hasbro]], 2019)'''
:This figure, a perfectly [[Show-accuracy|accurate representation]] of the Skyfire character model, comes with a spinning chest insignia to represent him either as an Autobot or a Decepticon.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 1985 — ''The Transformers'' — Volume 4: "Fire in the Sky" ([[Family Home Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of Canada.png|20px|Canada]] 1995 — ''The Transformers'' — The Autobots vs. The Decepticons ([[Malofilm]])
;{{w|LaserDisc}}
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1995 — ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' — Megatron Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers'' — Decepticon Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers'' — DVD Box 2 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2002 — ''Transformers'' — Original Series: Volume Three ([[Maverick Entertainment|Sony Wonder]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2002 — ''Transformers'' — Complete Original Series: Deluxe Edition (Sony Wonder) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''The Original Transformers'' — First Season Collector's Edition ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Volume Two (Rhino Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2003 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 1: Series 1 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 1 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — ''Classic Transformers'' — Series One: Part One (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2008 — ''Transformers'' — Volume 01: Stagione Uno Parte Prima ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season One (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete First Season: 25th Anniversary Edition ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2011 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Original Series (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2014 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete First Season: 30th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2014 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Animated Series (Metrodome)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/season-1/synopses/700-04.html Episode Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]
*[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UIPkWDamqgeOnKIdKdaJ08uLkVBOiB_c First draft episode script, as submitted 9th July 1984]
*[https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sbYnz8khCyf5FmvdmiSpnI4P8cHJp5_Q Full episode script as finalised on 19th July 1984]

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