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Talk:Brawl (WFC)

2012-12-22T18:45:18Z

Durge: /* The origin of the double cannon barrels */ new section

== Q/C Issues ==

I just got the retail version on Friday, and I noticed today that he has two left feet. Didn't know if this was an issue that has come up before with this figure, or if mine is an isolated incident.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 22:16, 2 December 2012 (EST)

== The origin of the double cannon barrels ==

Have we discussed the possibility that Brawl's double cannon barrels are actually/also a throwback to the 'attack mode' piece that attaches to the back end of the original G1 toy? Just a thought. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 13:45, 22 December 2012 (EST)

Talk:Megatron (WFC)

2012-02-02T22:56:57Z

Durge: /* Cyberverse commander */ new section

==Name==
I haven't read Exodus, so I don't know if this is in there, but the Transformers.com timeline says that in addition to being a gladiator, Megatron's standard job was laboring in the mines as a worker designated D-16. http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172
: Yes, that's in ''Exodus.'' Everything in the timeline is either from the book or what the book was written from, depending on whichever came first. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:38, 3 July 2010 (EDT)

== Autobot? ==

If he was once good, shouldn't there be an Autobot simbol on the top of the page?—[[User:TOM|TOM]] 15:26, 13 January 2011 (EST)
: No where on this page does it describe Megatron as a former Autobot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:40, 13 January 2011 (EST)
:: He fought along side Optimus Prime during the Great War against Decepticons, before he became one himself. Sounds like an Autobot.--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 18:59, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
:::I recalthat they fought together, but not that they fought "Decepticons" together. A very important distinction. Goingby WfC they both fought the corrupt system together, then split when Megs formed the Cons and Prime formed the Autobots. Don't recal Prime contridicting that.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 19:16, 20 March 2011 (EDT)

== Paring it down ==

I should probably say something here about the edit I just made. I've said it in the past, but I often feel that any fiction sections that are created as the fiction is being produced (so, for the wiki, that's basically the Animated and Prime cartoons) have a great tendency to be overlong, not through anyone's fault, but simply because they're built up week on week, with isolated, perhaps-a-bit-too-detailed episode summaries being added one after the other. Megatron has one of the smallest Prime cartoon sections, since he's only been in like two-thirds of the episodes, but it still seemed ''really'' long for a single 26-episode season with potentially three or four more seasons to be added to it yet as time goes by, and it's nothing compared to some of the Animated ones - and that just sort of sticks out to me, when series of greater length that are written up retroactively after they're done tend to read more quickly and concisely. Obviously, if what I've done offends society and the children, we can revert and I won't object... but frankly, I'm annoyed I couldn't shave off more than 2500 characters. (That WFC section is pretty gigantic too, honestly.) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:32, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
: We are twins who share a mind. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:53, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

== Cyberverse commander ==

Have the CV Commander infront of me. I see no pack-in file card. A few other things; his swordy bladey thingy doesn't peg in to his vehicle mode as per the instructions- hole is too small on the engine/ fusion cannon. This may be just on mine but i'm bringing it up as a potential mold problem if others have it too. Also, the side of the box has 2/004 printed on it. Does this denote that he is the 2nd out of 4 in the CV Commander line? Surely there'll be more than 4 of them? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 17:56, 2 February 2012 (EST)

Optimus Prime (WFC)

2012-01-28T01:03:39Z

Durge: /* Toys */

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{{disambig3|Optimus Prime}}
:''Optimus Prime is the leader of the [[Autobot]]s from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:PrimeOptimus.jpg|thumb|300px|Megatron awakened within him a secret yearning. The slashfic writes itself.]]
The Cybertronian who would become '''Optimus Prime''' was once a simple data clerk, satisfied with his job. It wasn't until he heard of an outspoken gladiator named [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and his call for an upheaval of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s society that he realized he was dissatisfied with his lot in life- and that the oppressive [[caste system]] hindered the freedom of all the sentient beings on Cybertron. Little did he realize that his boss, the archivist [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]], knew of a secret potential within the data clerk, and that Cybertron's history was at a precipice. Once he and Megatron discovered they did not have as much in common as they once believed, the lowly data clerk was promoted by the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]] to be the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]].

Over the centuries, loss and war have led Optimus to appear stern and serious to most. But scratch the surface, and you'll find an individual who greatly cares for his fellow living beings, with a warmth and kindness his closet friends can rely on. You'll also find regret over the loss of a comrade to darkness, and the faintest glimmer of hope that he can be saved.

He is sometimes partnered with Chief [[Charlie Burns]].

{{bigquote|We will [[Theme song|wage our battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons]] wherever it may take us. And one day, we will go home.|Optimus Prime|''[[Transformers: Exodus]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Like all Cybertronians, when Orion Pax emerged from the [[Well of All Sparks]], he was taught how to transform, to select a natural [[alternate mode]], and was put in a [[caste system|caste]]. At the [[Hall of Records]], Orion would read and index information from the [[Communication Grid]], but was forbidden to analyze. That was [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]]'s job, and the two became friends. Orion began monitoring Megatron's transmissions, and began a secret correspondence with him because he agreed with his beliefs. They had intense but friendly debates over the nature of free will and the dangerousness of their ideals, and Megatron suggested Orion learn how to fight for his beliefs. Orion began training with Jazz, learning to fire an [[ion blaster|ion-cannon]] and to fashion his arms into an [[energon-axe|axe]] and a [[Dual Energon Swords|sword]].

Orion made his first trip to [[Kaon]] to meet Megatron in person at his base. Megatron was the only gladiator who gave Orion a warm welcome. Terrorists began bombings in Megatron's name, and he made his first public announcement on the Grid, stating he was not responsible for the attacks and would bring the perpetrators to justice. Orion followed him up with a speech of his own. Orion trusted Megatron, believing if he were responsible for the attacks, he would have wanted to be associated with them. Later, when [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] took him to meet Megatron at an arena beneath the [[Observatory of Iacon]], Orion was shocked to see Jazz in attendance, and that Megatron had heard rumors about the bombings but did nothing to prevent them.

[[Image:War for Cybertron comic - Orion testimony.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Lookin' awful buff and armored for an insignificant young library clerk. One has to wonder if the [[Guilds of Cybertron|Guilds]] may have dropped the ball on this one.]]
When "[[Decepticon]]s" kidnapped [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]], Orion requested Alpha Trion arrange an audience with [[Autobot High Council|High Council]] for him and Megatron now that most Cybertronians. During their hearing in the [[High Council Tower]], Orion rigorously defended their ideals, even reviving the ancient philosophical phrase "[[Autobot]]s" to describe the autonomy his brethren sought. It was then Councilor [[Halogen (WFC)|Halogen]] declared Orion the new [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]: Optimus Prime. An outraged Megatron accused his brother of treachery, and then murdered Halogen. When Optimus ordered the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] to not harm Megatron, Megatron declared Optimus had fallen into the trappings of power the High Council had foisted upon him, and those in attendance dispersed, with the planet forever divided into Autobots and Decepticons.

Optimus forgoed the first engagement of the war, allowing the Decepticons to take [[Fort Scyk]] so he would gain time to recruit more Autobots. Optimus learned from Jazz after the fall of Scyk that he would have to learn to not mourn every soldier. Optimus fought for the first time during the next battle, the siege of the [[Hydrax Plateau]]. The first Cybertronian he ever killed was a former industrial drone named [[Drixco]]. Afterwards Optimus confided to Alpha Trion that the act of killing alone made him feel he was on the wrong side. Despite the efforts of Optimus and [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] the Decepticons conquered the Hydrax Plateau. It was at the stalemate of [[Praxus]] that Optimus gained the indispensable allies [[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]] and [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]]. The first Autobot victory was at [[Kalis]], a vital area due to its fusion reactor that powered Iacon. Optimus, Jazz and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] worked together to bring down the monstrous [[Bruticus Maximus (WFC)|Bruticus Maximus]], but the battle was mostly won due to the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s' absence. As Energon depleted, the war descended into a mere siege of Iacon lasting millions of cycles, and Optimus opted to eject the [[AllSpark]] itself into space: during this battle Optimus gained another great friend in [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]].

Following a lull in the war, the Decepticons began using [[Dark Energon]] and routed the Autobots, but Optimus wisely predicted it was an inefficient resource that would run out soon. To his horror, Megatron and Starscream infiltrated [[Teletraan-1]] to steal the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]], and although Teletraan-1 awakened the legendary [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]] to ferry the Chamber to safety, the Dark Energon-powered Decepticons overpowered the Autobots and used the Chamber to corrupt the [[Core]] of Cybertron and infested the planet with Dark Energon. During the battle, Megatron revealed he had killed Sentinel Prime below the High Council Tower to gain access to the Chamber. Afterwards Prowl picked up a message from Sentinel on the Grid, and Optimus, realizing he had not found Sentinel's body in Iacon, deduced Sentinel was alive. When Optimus, Jazz and Prowl rescued him from Kaon Prison, they found the city strangely deserted. Optimus believed Dark Energon was having a severe effect on Decepticon morale. When they found Sentinel, he was dying. He regretted his overlong reign as Prime, and that the High Council had made the right decision in appointing Optimus Prime. He finally told him he had to go to the Core and purge its corruption of Dark Energon.

After Sentinel's funeral in Iacon, where Optimus was officially appointed Prime after holding the de facto position for so long, he journeyed to the Core with Bumblebee and [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] and removed the Plasma Energy Chamber. It was then a voice from the Core told Optimus he was too late, and the Autobots would have to leave Cybertron as the planet healed itself. But it finally bestowed upon him the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the essence of [[Primus]], explaining that while Sentinel lived, he was still Prime, and that he had been unworthy of the Matrix. It told him that when the day came that they would return to Cybertron, the Core and the Matrix would restore the planet and Optimus would lead the Autobots in an "age of unimagined wonders". Afterwards, Optimus launched [[Ark (WFC)|Project Generation One]], to build a ship—that Jazz dubbed the ''Ark''—to take them to the stars, a plan some Autobots objected to.

But before their exodus, Optimus planned to fool Megatron by gathering every spaceworthy vessel and having them rendezvous at what was apparently the last remaining [[space bridge]] in orbit. Megatron ordered [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] fire on the ships, but Optimus ordered a fallback as he, Jetfire, Jazz, Ironhide, Prowl, Sideswipe and Bumblebee flew the ''[[Eight Track (WFC)|Eight Track]]'' to board the monster and knocked him from orbit by blasting his [[Spark]] containment field. Optimus's team returned to find the ''Ark'' ready at the Well of All Sparks, and bid goodbye to those—including Jetfire, Magnus and Omega—who stayed to fend off Trypticon as he transformed to attack. Optimus also bade farewell to Alpha Trion, who believed [[Vector Sigma]] would protect him when the rest of the planet would be unable to sustain life: it was then Optimus realized Alpha Trion was one of the [[Thirteen|thirteen original Transformers]].

Yet as the ''Ark'' took off the Decepticons overran Iacon and Megatron and his elite boarded Trypticon, who transformed into a ''Nemesis''-class cruiser and pursued the Autobots. Megatron used his and Orion's old frequency to inform Optimus that he would pursue him across the stars and eventually kill him. The ''Ark'' entered the last space bridge and emerged with the ''Nemesis'' gone. They were near a [[Milky Way|spiral galaxy]] and Prowl detected the AllSpark. Knowing the Matrix within would help them find a way home, Optimus vowed that the Autobots would continue to wage their battle across the stars. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

===''Exiles''===
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{{storylink|Transformers: Exiles}}

===''Prime'' comic===
[[Image:PrimeComicOptimus.jpg|left|thumb|200px|]]
From [[Earth]], Optimus sent an encrypted message directing the Autobots to their new world. When [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] landed, Optimus and Bumblebee detected them and came to retrieve them. For Optimus to find them under attack from [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] was no matter, for Optimus crushed the air commander and sent his brawny accomplice running. Optimus picked up the wounded Arcee, and took her through a [[GroundBridge]] to his base for Ratchet to repair her, while informing Cliffjumper that while his journey was over, their battle was just beginning. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (comic)|Prime}}
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===''Prime'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Alfredo Martínez]] (Spain-Spanish), [[Wan-gyeong Seong]] (Korean), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian), [[Reiner Schöne]] (German), [[Blas Garcia]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Dariusz Odija]] (Polish)

[[Image:OneShallRise3-corresponding.jpg|left|thumb|300px|"We'll always be friends forever, won't we?"]]

In the waning years of the [[Golden Age]] of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Orion Pax was a clerk in the [[Iacon]] [[Hall of Records]]. His interests lay with the tales of ancient Cybertron history, but the more he learned about the past, the more he grew concerned about the present. There was a disparity in freedom among the classes of his race, and the ruling class was corrupt and all-powerful. In seeking a solution to this inequity, he found inspiration in the words of a gladiator named [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatronus]], and the two joined forces to end corruption and bring equality to the masses. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} Optimus and Megatron became close allies, almost like brothers. But soon Megatron's ideals would become corrupted, and the two would become bitter enemies. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

[[Image:OneShallRise3-cametobe.jpg|right|thumb|200px|If you squint I look sort of like this in ''[[Fall of Cybertron]].'' Okay, that's a lie.]]

Both Megatronus — now "Megatron" — and Orion Pax appeared before the [[High Council]], and Megatron stated it was his intention to overthrow the High Council by force and instate himself as the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]. But it was Orion's speech that drew their attention. Jealous, Megatron left angrily and began his conquest, which resulted in countless casualties and left the [[Core]] of Cybertron itself [[Dark Energon|poisoned]]. It was Orion's subsequent search for the Core that completed his transformation into Optimus Prime. The Core, the essence of their creator [[Primus]], relinquished the [[Matrix of Leadership]] into his chassis. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

During the war, Optimus encountered [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] at the [[Battle of Technar]] when the Decepticon was sent by Megatron to kill him. {{storylink|Masters & Students}} After Cybertron was abandoned, Optimus Prime's [[Team Prime|elite team]] of Autobots eventually made their way to Earth, where they allied themselves with the [[United States of America|United States]] government. The Autobots were assigned [[William Fowler]] as their liaison, and provided an [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|abandoned missile silo]] as a base in exchange for keeping the Decepticon threat contained. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}}

[[Image:DarknessRising1-fairquestion.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Do you have your grandfather's glasses — er, wait.]]

Around three years later, Prime was out on the road when word reached him that [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] was facing down an entire contingent of Decepticons. Arriving to the battlefield too late, Prime delivered a eulogy for their fallen comrade. Soon after, some humans were caught up in a battle between the Autobots and Decepticons, and Optimus, knowing that they would now be targeted by the Decepticons, had them brought to the Autobot base. There, he told them about the Transformer war and assigned the Autobots to be their individual guardians. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} Presently, the apparent reactivation of Cliffjumper's lifesigns was detected by the Autobots, and they tracked it to a Decepticon Energon mine, where they discovered that Megatron had returned to Earth with Dark Energon, used to revive Cliffjumper as a zombie [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]]. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}} Realizing that Megatron's goal was to create an undead army, Optimus and Ratchet headed to the site of an ancient Transformer battleground on Earth, arriving just as Megatron used a sliver of Dark Energon to reanimate the corpses buried there into a Terrorcon legion. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}} Struggling against the detrimental effects of Dark Energon, the pair cut their way through the Terrorcons, but Megatron escaped before Optimus could get his hands on him.

[[Image:DarknessRising5-OptimusPrimeguns.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Pssst, Prime, your barrel openings are just painted detail.]]

Returning to base, Optimus was disappointed to find that [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] had let the kids go out into battle in his absence, but disturbing intel had been recovered in the process: the Decepticons were planning to use a [[space bridge]] to revive the dead of Cybertron with Dark Energon. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}} [[GroundBridge|GroundBridging]] to the Decepticon's space bridge in Earth orbit, Optimus faced Megatron down in a one-on-one battle while the other Autobots sabotage the bridge, causing it to explode and destroy the Terrorcons, and apparently, Megatron himself. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}

Despite the victory, Optimus regretted not having been able to turn Megatron to the path of peace. When Decepticon activity was detected in an area of the desert, Optimus and Bumblebee investigated, discovering that Starscream had located and reactivated Skyquake. Optimus tried to appeal to the Decepticons to consider a truce now that Megatron had gone, but Skyquake was determined to carry out his late master's wishes and terminate Prime. Optimus and Bumblebee found themselves forced to battle and destroy Skyquake, but they respectfully buried their fallen foe, and Prime lamented the circumstances. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

[[Image:Scrapheap-cloudsbreak.jpg|left|thumb|250px|"Okay, ''now'' I'm ready to call Bulkhead fat."]]
After Bulkhead and Bumblebee found a pod in the [[Arctic]] and brought it back to base, Optimus and Arcee went back to the Arctic to check for clues as to the pod's origin. After some time searching, the temperature sensors Ratchet had given them went off, so Optimus attempted to contact base, only to find the comms were down. The pair sought shelter, but as their temperatures slowly dropped, things looked grim. Just as they were losing hope, the GroundBridge opened and ejected Bulkhead and the swarm of [[Scraplet]]s that had been causing havoc at base. The three Autobots were subsequently able to return home, and Optimus paid tribute to their human friends who had helped eliminate the Scraplets. {{storylink|Scrapheap (episode)|Scrapheap}}

[[Image:Convoy-Optimustrailer.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"This here's Rubber Duck and I'm about to put the hammer down."]]
When Bulkhead's old buddy [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] arrived on Earth, Optimus excused himself from the welcome party and went out on patrol, since "Primes don't party". As such, he missed all the fun when Wheeljack turned out to be a [[Makeshift (Prime)|Decepticon spy]], but he stuck around for the second part to welcome the real Wheeljack, telling the visiting Autobot that he'd always be welcome on Earth. {{storylink|Con Job}} Not long after, when the Autobots were contracted by Fowler to help transport the experimental [[Dynamic Nuclear Generation System]], Optimus carried the device in a [[trailer]] to the rendezvous point, where it was transferred to a train. Unfortunately, the D.N.G.S. became a target for both the Decepticons and the human terrorist organization [[MECH]], and Prime was forced to have his Autobots break cover to fight [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] while he dispatched MECH's leader [[Silas]]. A poor loser, Silas took out the train track ahead and Optimus went into [[maximum overdrive]], grabbing the train and physically halting it. {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

[[Image:Optimuselectrocuted.jpg|thumb|250px|left|[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] were right, I should've gone for this earlier!]]
Tracking an [[Energon Harvester]] to a museum, Optimus Prime and the Autobots were attacked by new Decepticons arrivals [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]], and Prime got the business end of Knock Out's [[Energon prod]], taking him out of the fight long enough for Soundwave to make off with the Harvester. Optimus led the Autobots in following the villains to Greece, and stopped their attempts to harvest an Energon seam there. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}} Prime had another clash Knock Out soon after: when he discovered that Arcee and [[Jack Darby|Jack]] had disobeyed his orders against using powers for personal gain by participating in illegal street races, Optimus intervened, and helped rescued a [[Vince|captive human]] from Knock Out's clutches by ripping the Decepticon's door off. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

[[Image:SickMind-OPinfected.jpg|thumb|250px|right|I woke up late one morning with a black eye. Why the heck does everyone think I'm sick? I could've just been punched in the face. Really hard. ]]
While investigating a crashed Autobot spacecraft, Optimus Prime's hopes of helping any survivors were dashed when the craft turned out to be a corpse-strewn plague ship from which he contracted [[Cybonic plague]], a pathogen engineered by Megatron himself. Arcee and Bumblebee boarded the ''Nemesis'' in search of a cure, and, discovering that Megatron was still alive and in stasis, Bumblebee entered his mind via a [[cortical psychic patch]]. In his dreamworld, Megatron was constantly killing imaginary Optimus Primes, and Bumblebee played on Megatron's desire to kill Optimus himself, rather than have him succumb to the plague, to convince him to hand over the cure. {{storylink|Sick Mind}} After getting back up to full health, Optimus led the Autobots to the Arctic, where Starscream was using a heat ray to melt a glacier in order to access an energon deposit. Prime boldly ploughed through the weapon's beam in order to get close enough to destroy it, but the resultant explosion left him helpless before Starscream—until he was saved at the last moment when the resurrected Megatron arrived to haul Starscream away for punishment. {{Storylink|Out of His Head}}

[[Image:Shadowzone HappymusPrime.jpg|left|thumb|250px|:D]]

Optimus Prime led the Autobots in investigating a Dark Energon energy signature, and found Starscream using the substance to resurrect Skyquake. Fortunately, the additional power conveyed upon Starscream by the Dark Energon was not enough to prevent Optimus Prime from blasting his arm clean off. Presently, a GroundBridge accident catapulted Jack, Miko and [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]] into an alternate dimension, and when the Autobots opened a portal to bring them back, Prime took the Autobots back to the battlefield to protect them from Starscream. {{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}} Optimus's inimitable compassion even extended to Breakdown, when he was captured by the forces of MECH and Optimus determined they would rescue him. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}} Later, Optimus was at the Autobot base when Jack and Arcee brought [[June Darby|Jack's mom]] in to introduce her to everyone. {{storylink|Crisscross}} He was out on a scouting mission with Bumblebee when Ratchet detected a strange magnetic signature that turned out to be a [[Polarity gauntlet]], {{storylink|Metal Attraction}} and also missed out on an adventure in a collapsed mine, but when he heard that Jack had shown mercy to an immobilized Megatron, he was proud of the boy. {{storylink|Raf's Notes#Note15|Raf's Notes}}

[[Image:Partners-StiffOptimus.jpg|thumb|right|250px|We've replaced Optimus with a statue. Think anyone will notice?]]
Exploring the wreck of a crashed [[Harbinger|Decepticon ship]], Optimus Prime and his team fell victim to [[Airachnid]], who paralyzed Prime and Bulkhead with the ship's cargo: an experimental [[Immobilizer]]. Prime would have wound up handed over to Megatron and mounted on the bow of the ''Nemesis'' if not for Bumblebee, who saw the villainess off, and Ratchet, who repaired the damaged device and unfroze the pair. {{storylink|Partners}}
[[Image:StrongerFaster-RatchetPrime.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Who will join me? Who will become stronger, faster, more insubordinate?]]
Lost Cybertronian technology continued to cause problems for Prime and the Autobots when a formula for [[Synthetic Energon]] was beamed from a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] into Bulkhead's mind, putting his life at risk. Refusing to sacrifice Bulkhead despite the advantage the formula would give the Autobots, Prime petitioned Megatron for the return of the cylinder so they could extract the data. In exchange, he would hand it over to the Decepticons, but Megatron refused and destroyed the device after a battle. The formula was subsequently beamed out of Bulkhead's mind into space, {{storylink|T.M.I.}} but when Ratchet proceeded to generate a batch of "SynthEn" and was driven mentally unstable after testing it on himself, he and Optimus came to blows, and Optimus confined him to base. Ratchet instead took off to face Megatron, forcing Prime to lead a team into a Decepticon mine to rescue him. Cured of the SynthEn's effects, Optimus reminded Ratchet that he was a vital member of the team. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}

[[Image:PrimeEp23-PrimeMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Slap slap.]]

Believing that a prophecy in the [[Covenant of Primus]] was soon to come true and that Megatron could regard it as his destiny, Optimus Prime was finally forced to abandon any illusions of turning his old foe to the path of good after the Decepticon leader grievously wounded Raf during a battle over a power source for the villain's new space bridge. Optimus boarded the ''Nemesis'' and called Megatron out for a one-on-one battle that he vowed would be their last. The two ancient enemies fought before a volcano, and Optimus managed to fell Megatron, but just before he could deliver the killing blow, the volcano erupted with Dark Energon. Megatron experienced an increase in power, and turned the tide, {{storylink|One Shall Fall}} but thankfully, the intervention of the other Autobots saved Optimus's life. Retreating to base to review this new nightmare scenario, Optimus recounting the tale of [[Primus]], [[Unicron]] and the [[Thirteen]] to the gathered humans and told them he believed that Earth had formed around the slumbering form of Unicron, who was now in the process of awakening. Examining areas of the planet struck by earthquakes at the moment of the eruption, Optimus soon found himself confronted by Unicron himself, in an avatar formed from rock and stone. He prostrated himself before the Chaos Bringer and tried to plead for the lives of the billions of [[human]]s who dwelt on Earth, but Unicron considered them parasites and attacked Prime with wave after wave of avatars. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

[[Image:OneShallRise2-shake.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Kiss kiss.]]

He ordered the other Autobots ''not'' to come to his aid, so naturally they came anyway. After fighting increasingly larger Unicrons, they came up against one that was too much for them. Just as it was about to step on Optimus, help came in the unlikely form of Megatron, who offered his services in eliminating Unicron and revealed that only the [[Matrix of Leadership]] held by Optimus could achieve that aim. The Autobots returned to base, where the others were horrified that Prime was intending to take up Megatron's offer, but he was resolute that all care would be taken to make sure it was a safe as possible. When Megatron stepped into the base, Optimus and the other Autobots welcomed him appropriately. Before they left on their mission, Optimus presented Jack with the key to the GroundBridge power supply. Optimus, Megatron and the Autobots were soon stepping through the GroundBridge to Earth's core, Unicron himself. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

As they moved through Unicron's internal structure, they came under attack from [[Unicron's antibodies|antibodies]]. Optimus and Megatron fought back to back, though Optimus took time out to rescue Bulkhead from falling. When they reach Unicron's spark chamber, Optimus and Megatron went inside, and, though the dark god possessed Megatron, Optimus unleashed the Matrix, apparently extinguishing Unicron's spark. However the price was high—Optimus's memory was lost and he believed himself to be Orion Pax. Megatron played along, and took him back to the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}
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===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
As the Decepticons slowly conquered Cybertron, Optimus knew they'd try to attack [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] and set up defences at the [[Iacon Energon Refinery]]. Sure enough, Megatron attacked with a small team of Decepticons but the Autobot gunners managed to take out all but Megatron. To Optimus's surprise, Megatron didn't abandon his men, instead rescuing them under heavy fire. When Optimus had the opportunity to take a shot, he hesitated and Megatron's team escaped. For that, Optimus took the blame and was even regarded as a traitor by some. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

Many years, Optimus's team had settled on [[Earth]]. After Ratchet somewhat apologetically unveiled the [[Safe]], Optimus told him to have more confidence in his work. When Bulkhead managed to uncover a hidden nuclear missile and a scouting party of Vehicons neared the base, Optimus, Arcee and Bumblebee went out to greet the Decepticons. While Bumblebee knocked the Vehicons into the air, Prime and Arcee blasted them. They reentered at the base in time to see Fowler arriving with some scientists, and Optimus had some stern words with their liaison about the mystery bomb and its intended purpose, insisting that Fowler take it with him when he left. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.1|The Safe and the Failsafe}}

During some downtime, Prime took the other Autobots and the kids to [[Valley of Fire State Park]]. At Miko's request, he told the story of his battle with Megatron in the Iacon Energon Refinery. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

On [[Christmas]], Fowler reported to Optimus that Megatron and Starscream had taken control of the [[Yamal|NS ''Yamal'']], a nuclear-powered Russian icebreaker. Leaving Arcee and Bulkhead in charge of the base, Optimus took the other Autobots to the ship and attacked Megatron. As Optimus fought Megatron, the Decepticon leader outlined his plan to detonate the ship's reactors with a [[static lance]]. Bumblebee managed to wrest the lance off Starscream and threw it to Optimus who used it to hit Megatron. Once the Decepticons had been dealt with, Optimus's team returned to the base, where they found it had been turned into an impromptu ice skating rink. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

{{spoiler|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|February 2, 2012}}
Optimus was surprised to find the GroundBridge active and asked Bulkhead what the problem was. Bulkhead's denials were undermined by the Vehicons pouring through the bridge, and Optimus led the counter-attack. While Optimus and the others kept the Decepticons busy, Raf and Bumblebee managed to shut down the bridge. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}
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===''Rescue Bots'' pack-in storybooks===
After [[Cody Burns]] helped [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] put out a fire that had threatened Fire Station Prime, Optimus Prime spoke to them through a screen, asking if Cody would join the Rescue Bots. Cody accepted. {{storylink|Prime Alert}}

===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English)
[[Image:RBoptimusprime.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[Playskool]] is the right of all sentient beings.]]
Optimus Prime sent out a call to all Autobots to come to their new home on [[Earth]]. When a team of [[Rescue Bots]] arrived at a military base, Optimus met them there and gave them their new mission: to team up with the Burns family and help them keep [[Griffin Rock]] safe. After presenting them with vehicles to [[scanning|scan]], he introduced them to [[Charlie Burns]] and left them to get acquainted. {{storylink|Family of Heroes}}

The Rescue Bots had trouble learning to work with their new human friends, and they contacted Optimus to tell him as much, but he was confident that they and the humans would learn to work together. {{storylink|Under Pressure}}

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==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian), [[Alfredo Martínez]] (Spain-Spanish)

[[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeconcept.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Steroids are the right of all sentient beings.]]
In the waning days of the war for Cybertron, Optimus spotted a little yellow Autobot in trouble, and defeated the surrounding drone forces. [[Ratchet (Prime)| Ratchet]] arrived on the scene, and Optimus helped up the Autobot scout, who revealed his name was [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]. Bumblebee informed Optimus that the Decepticons had taken control of communication relays, so that the only way to contact Optimus was by messenger. He also informed Optimus that their leader, [[Sentinel Zeta Prime]], was dead. Optimus suspected [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s hand, and was informed by Bumblebee that the [[Autobot High Council]] had gone into hiding because of this. Optimus believed that the Council would emerge during a safer time, and formed a team with Bumblebee and Ratchet.

They drove to the [[Decagon]], where they found [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] battling the forces of [[Starscream (Prime)| Starscream]]. After assisting him in defeating Starscream's army, they confronted Starscream himself within the Decagon. After the trio combated and drove off Starscream, a hologram of Zeta Prime's face appeared in the center of the room, stating that he is being held in the [[Kaon]] prison complex. Optimus took Bumblebee and Sideswipe to the Kaon prison, allowing themselves to be captured so that they could infiltrate the facility. The Decepticons prepared to execute them, but [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] lent a hand so they could escape, though he himself was captured. While sneaking through the corridors, the three managed to free Air Raid, [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]], and others. They continued through the hallways, and finally located the room where Zeta is being held, only to face [[Soundwave (Prime)| Soundwave]]. The Decepticon cowered behind a force field, sending [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]], [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]], and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] out to fight for him, only venturing out to administer needed repairs to his minions. As Soundwave's energy became low, he attempted to drain Zeta Prime, only to be interrupted by Optimus, who took a shot meant for Zeta. Though Soundwave and his minions retreated, the damage was done, and Zeta Prime died before Optimus could free him.

Optimus brought Zeta's corpse to the site of the hiding High Council, where he lay the dead body in the center of the room. Optimus stated that the Autobots craved their guidance, but the Council stated that their mission was to choose the Primes, not to lead them. They then told him that Optimus himself is a Prime, and that he had changed the lives around him. Optimus was then told that Megatron had corrupted the core of Cybertron, and that he was the one that could remove this blight. He took this burden and responsibility, then was told by the Council that he was now Optimus ''Prime'', the last Prime.

[[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeAltmode.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Welcome to the ''Twilight Zone'' Prime.]]
For a new mission, Optimus selected Ironhide and [[Warpath (WFC)|Warpath]], and the team ventured to the entrance of the core, where a corrupted [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]] was being tortured. After a prolonged battle, the Autobots defeated the torturers and freed Omega Supreme from the Dark Energon influence. Omega Supreme escaped, and the Autobots found some [[Space slug|space slugs]] to use as steeds. One long journey later, they reached the core and defeated a corrupted slug. Unfortunately the core itself had become contaminated, and informed Optimus as much. The only solution was for the core to reboot, which would take millions of years, during which the planet would be unusable, and Optimus realized that the Autobots would have to leave their home. Before shutting down, the core revealed the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which it installed inside Optimus Prime's chest.

Optimus arrived back at Iacon, where he ordered all Autobots to evacuate the planet. Megatron announced that everyone must stay or face destruction, and fired a massive cannon installed in the Dark Energon space station. Optimus Prime ordered his Air Commander [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]] to shut down the cannon with his team. They succeeded, and the station crashed into Iacon. Optimus, Bumblebee, and Ironhide discovered that the "space station" wasn't a space station at all: it was the giant Decepticon, [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]]. They managed to defeat the heavily-armed menace, who plunged into a pool of energon. The Autobots celebrated their victory, but noticed that ''they'' have to evacuate as well. Optimus revealed a massive starship they would use called the [[Ark (WFC)|Ark]], a ship still under construction that would allow them to take a part of Cybertron with them across the galaxy. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' Peter Cullen (English)
[[Image:WFCDS Optimus Prime.jpg|thumb|right|124px|Origamimus Prime]]
Optimus was a dock worker who found himself caught up in the war against the Decepticons. With the Decepticons on the hunt for the Omega Key, Zeta Prime sent Optimus and his team to protect the library, knowing he could count on his old friend. When Zeta Prime was later captured by the Decepticons, he attempted to contact Optimus. The data links keeping him in contact with the Autobots were severed, so Bumblebee tracked down Optimus at an Autobot base. Optimus subsequently rescued an [[Autobot rookie]] from Starscream, chasing the Decepticon off before joining up with Jetfire and destroying other intruders at the base. Optimus was felled by a [[laser guard]], but revived with the help of Jetfire and Bumblebee. They completed clearing the base by defeating [[Dirge (WFC)|Dirge]], and Optimus announced that the next step was to retake Iacon.

He and his team entered Decepticon-occupied Iacon and destroyed the Dark Energon corruptors, allowing them to get the Decagon's defense systems back online. While they waited for Zeta Prime to make contact again, Optimus reminded Bumblebee that they couldn't let Megatron win just by giving up. Zeta let them know that he was being held in Kaon Prison, and Optimus's team infiltrated the prison in search of him. After an encounter with [[Onslaught (WFC)|Onslaught]], they ran into Megatron himself, who set more Decepticons on them. When they eventually found Zeta Prime, their leader expired. Optimus returned his body to the High Council, who appointed Optimus the new Prime.

Optimus Prime attempted to solicit [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]]'s help. Grimlock challenged him to a fight to decide whether to join up, but [[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]]'s capture by Decepticons sent the Autobots off on a rescue mission instead. The Autobots tracked Swoop down to a Dark Energon laboratory on the outskirts of Iacon and freed him from Dark Energon contamination. Swoop's services were subsequently offered to the Autobots by Grimlock, who said he'd follow along to protect Swoop. Analysis of core samples by Jetfire and Ratchet indicated that they would need to disable to corrupters preventing it from repairing itself. To this end, Optimus's team traveled to the core and freed it after defeating [[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]].

Realising that the core needed time to repair itself, Optimus ordered the Autobots to evacuate the planet in Arks. He and his team ascended the space bridge to attack the Trypticon space station and take out its main power core. They escaped during the station's plunge towards Cybertron, but as it fell, it transformed. Optimus rallied his men against this new threat, leading the way to the crash site, where the Autobots confronted Trypticon. After the titan's downfall, Optimus and his men left Cybertron in search of a new source of energy. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
:''Voice actor:'' Peter Cullen (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)

Optimus Prime coordinated many of the Autobot campaigns during the war. He dispatched Ironhide and Bumblebee to retrieve a datacore of information about Trypticon from Kaon. He later coordinated the evac measures for Cybertron, personally guarding a supply convoy while Bumblebee ran point and ensuring the safe launch of an airlift whiel the Aerialbots prevented Seekers from taking potshots at it. He also sent the Aerialbots up to Trypticon Station itself when its orbital weapon systems began annihilating the Autobot ranks.

When Trypticon itself fell to Cybertron after the Aerialbot assault, it transformed into a tremendous warbot, and Optimus Prime raced out to meet it. Bumblebee and Ironhide accompanied Prime to the blast site, fighting through numerous Decepticon embankments to reach the monster. Trypticon himself proved to be an implaccable foe, and Optimus coordinated both ground-based flanking attacks and strafing runs by the Aerialbots. Eventually, the mighty menace went down, and Prime saluted Trypticon on his way to extinction. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English)
[[Image:FOC-OptimusPrimetruckart.jpg|right|thumb|200px|]]
[[Image:FOC-GameInformerPrimeBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|"No, not in the chest, you guys! The throat! The throat!"]]
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{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|It's ''[[War Within]]'' but with fewer chinstraps and handvents.]]
*'''Cybertronian Optimus Prime''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)
:*''Accessories'': "blaster" rifle

: Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Optimus Prime transforms from a red, blue, and silver robot into an "armored truck mode." His rifle transforms as well, folding and plugging into the roof of the vehicle mode. The rifle can also peg into his forearms, and, in its compact configuration, can attach to his shoulders via peg holes on the backs of his front tires. The weapon in its compact configuration can also be stored on his robot mode back. Optimus has a stylized sculpted Autobot insignia on his back, as seen in the game, but it is obscured by [[kibble]].

: An undocumented transformation step includes flipping Optimus Prime's knees out in vehicle mode to form a back bumper with tail lights. Oddly, the toy itself and the cardbox art show Optimus Prime with four fingers on each hand, while in the video game Optimus Prime has 5 fingers. The vehicle mode pictured here is minimally mistransformed: The exhaust pipes have not been rotated to hide the indentations against the vehicle body. The instructions show the rifle being plugged in by its shorter peg, but the packaging depicts the rifle stored by its grip, which keeps the weapon higher off Prime's body, but is also more secure.

:Optimus Prime is part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronian [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates via [[Toys"R"Us]].

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#United|Optimus Prime Cybertron Mode]] and [[Darkside Optimus Prime (United)|Darkside Optimus Prime]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/GenerationsOptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm More information on Cybertronian Optimus Prime at TFU.info]''
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===Prime: First Edition===
[[Image:Primetoy-OptimusPrimeMatrixofLeadership.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Step 1: Put Optimus Prime toy inside a wearable Matrix. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit!]]
*'''Matrix of Leadership SDCC Optimus Prime''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Gun, magnet, dignity-removing wearable Matrix packaging

: Matrix of Leadership Optimus Prime is an exclusive to San Diego Comic-Con 2011. The toy comes in a packaging shaped like the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which the owner can wear around his neck, preferably at the convention itself, so passers-by can exclaim WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THAT and then try to get one themselves. The Matrix itself comes packaged in a box that is designed to look like Optimus Prime's chest, and opens accordingly. The chest window doors are sealed with a round magnet.

:The toy itself is an early release of the Deluxe Class Optimus Prime toy from the upcoming "Entertainment Pack" set. There are some deco differences between this release and the later retail release; this version has gray windows instead of blue and is missing some of the silver deco on the helmet and the yellow paint on his lights. His midriff is also darker.
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[[Image:Primetoy-OptimusPrimeEP.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Can transform from truck mode to movie trailer narrator mode and back!]]
*'''Optimus Prime vs Megatron''' (5 figure gift set, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

: A Deluxe-sized Optimus Prime comes with a similarly-scaled [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and PVC figurines of [[Miko Nakadai]], [[Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel]]. Optimus converts from robot mode to his truck mode. He comes with a gun than he can wield with his hands, as well as peg onto his hitch in vehicle mode, with different pegs for either configuration. Similarly to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Voyager Class toys 4|a previous Optimus Prime toy]], he features some [[Kibble#.22Faux-parts.22|faux-kibble]] in the form of his actual windshield chest being covered by sculpted panels featuring his characteristic windshield-chest.
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[[Image:Primetoy-OptimusPrimeVoyager.jpg|right|thumb|300px|And those side-view mirrors go to ''where'' on the truck mode?]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Voyager, 2011)
:''Accessories:'' "[[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] battle sword", "[[plasma cannon]]"
: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' "First Edition" Voyager-Class toys, Optimus Prime transforms into a truck, with a similar (but more complex) transformation to his previous Deluxe-Class toy, complete with a faux-kibble window-chest panel. He comes with a "Cybertronian battle sword" and a "plasma cannon", either of which can [[5mm post|peg]] into his hands. They are stored in vehicle mode by pegging them onto either the trailer hitch, or onto each peg-hole beside it, although the [[instructions]] tell [[you]] to nominally peg the sword facing forwards onto the hitch, with the cannon mounting onto one of the side pegs facing backwards. As with all "First Edition" toys, he features a cardboard stand.

: Amusingly, he features a ''second'' hitch with an equally ''usable'' peg-hole sculpted on his left leg, while he features sculpted side mirrors on the sides of his fake chest... even though the truck mode ''doesn't have'' side mirrors. Huh.

: He is minimally mis-transformed in-[[Packaging|package]] and in the [[stock photo]], as his shoulder guards aren't flipped open. His stock photography also shows his plasma cannon as being solid black, when the final cannon is black speckled with silver paint, with slightly more painted silver details on the tips of the barrels.

: His front leg panels don't tab very securely onto his legs, and adjusting his pivotable feet will inevitably result in the panels detaching. His roof and hood also have connection problems, with the tabs that connect the cab to the roof being painted, making the tabs slightly too thick and long and therefore preventing the roof from tabbing in completely, and with the clips holding the hood halves together being too small to actually allow it to hold together ''at all''. The results of both connection problems are unsightly gaps between the hood and cab, as well as between the hood halves.
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===Rescue Bots===
[[Image:RescueBots-toy_OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Admit it, you want one.]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (2011)
: Optimus Prime transforms from truck to robot in one easy step! Just [[Autotransformation|fold down his legs]] and he'll spring into action! (And then fold his toes up.)
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===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TRURageOverCybertronCybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Rage over Cybertron''' (Multipack, 2011)
:*''Accessories'': "blaster" rifle

:A redeco of Cybertronian Optimus Prime with a translucent red front section, additional (painted) "scratched paint" details, some red paint highlights either omitted or changed to yellow and additional yellow circuitry pattern detailing reminiscent of the jammed abilities/mode lock/EMP effect from the ''War for Cybertron'' game, available in a [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]] three-pack with redecos of Cybertronian Megatron and Cybertronian Bumblebee.

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===Prime: Robots in Disguise===
[[Image:Cyberverse_commander_oprime.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2012)
**'''Accessories''': 2 "battle cannons"
: This Cyberverse-scaled Optimus Prime is cast partly in translucent plastic so that the toy can be lit using the electronic lights featured in the larger playsets. He also comes with two translucent "battle cannon" weapons and a pack-in file card.

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[[Image:PrimeRIDtoy-PrimeVoyager.jpg|right|thumb|300px|The return of Laser Prime sorta!]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Powerizer, 2012)
**'''Accessories''': gun and sword
: An entirely new <strike>Voyager Class</strike> Powerizer Optimus Prime features light-up electronics. A mostly translucent gun contains an LED which can mount either on the shoulder or be pegged into either of Optimus Prime's forearms; the light is activated when the gun's engineering expands [[MechTech]]-style. The forearms are translucent, doubling the lighting effect if the gun is placed in the holes in the arms. Unlike previous Voyager-size Mechtech weapons, the gun cannot be set to stay expanded. This means that Prime is forced to threaten Decepticons with a random block of parts, unless you want to use one hand to permanently unfold his weapon.

: Optimus is also equipped with an opaque sword that he holds in a normal fashion (he is also able to wield it two-handed), unlike his First Edition Voyager toy.

: This is the first Prime Optimus Prime figure released ''not'' to have fake windshield windows on his chest.

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*'''Optimus Prime''' (Weaponizer, 2012)
**'''Accessories''': 2 chainguns
: This <s>Leader Class</s> Weaponizer sized toy is equipped with two chainguns that can pop out of the hood of the vehicle mode, or be mounted on his shoulders in robot mode. <ref>[[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content/fmh-live-coverage-uk-toy-fair-2012-2737/ Live coverage of UK toy fair 2012!]]</ref>

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[[Category: Autobot leaders]]
[[Category: Rescue Bots Autobots]]

==Notes==
[[Image:TFPrimeOptimustruck.jpg|thumb|So, it hasn't got [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|flames]]. [[Ruined FOREVER|It's still not a flat nose truck.]]]]
*''Exodus'' and ''War for Cybertron'' are different continuities within the same "continuity family", so their difference on Optimus Prime's pre-Prime name is not a real contradiction in and of itself. However [[Hasbro]]'s [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 online timeline]—meant as prequel to ''War for Cybertron''—refers to Optimus's pre-Prime name as "Orion Pax" like ''Exodus''. To confuse matters even more, in [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|War for Cybertron]]'' comic, [[Alex Irvine]], in adapting scenes from his novel, still keeps the character's name as "Orion Pax", when it is also meant to occur prior the game's events.
*Optimus is rather forgetful in ''Exodus''. Alpha Trion tells him twice that he had suggested to the High Council that Orion might be the Prime foretold in the [[Covenant of Primus]]. Then he tells Jetfire that the Core told him of Project Generation One, when it was a contingency plan Trion told him about, put in place since the Breaking of the Primes. Then again, leading an army for thousands or millions of years may place a strain on a bot's memory servers.
*Optimus's CG model underwent modifications between "[[Darkness Rising]]" and the first season proper, with his chest windows lowered somewhat during scenes when he is not in battle.
*''Fall of Cybertron''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> truck mode is described by [[High Moon Studios]] principal artist [[Mike Brown]] as a "fist with wheels attached to it." [http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/10/fall-of-cybertron-the-new-optimus-prime.aspx]

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Optimus Prime''' (オプティマス・プライム ''Oputimasu Puraimu'')

[[Category: Autobot leaders]]
[[Category: Generations]]
[[Category: Hall of Fame]]
[[Category: Matrix bearers]]
[[Category: Prime Autobots]]
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[[Category:Transformers (2010) Autobots]]
[[Category: War for Cybertron Autobots]]

Talk:Darth Vader

2012-01-17T19:03:29Z

Durge: /* 2012 smaller size class toys */ new section

Uh... I personally created that .jpg of Attacktix Anakin Skywalker and pre-lava Vader to illustrate the reference to them being the same character in the Attacktix section. If we're not allowed to acknowledge the other toys in the Attacktix line, don't we have to split Vader and Anakin into seperate pages and pretend we don't know they're the same person? --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:22, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
: The non-Transformers Attacktix are none of our business. Only the ones that are in versus packs with TF stuff should be mentioned. Otherwise, we're heading down a path, uh, this wiki cannot follow. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:31, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:: So then, does Anakin Skywalker need to be split off onto his own page with us pretending he's an unrelated character? Because as far as I'm aware, the Anakin and Vader toys that look like exactly the same guy in a line designed to interact with Transformers characters are the only TF-related evidence that they're the same person. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:36, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:Much kudos to you for that image then. I mean, it's Darth Vader fighting Optimus Prime. Could it get much cooler? [A random intruder]

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Vader is appearing in VW ads now. The same Volkswagen who rejected transformers for being too war-related, and not something they wanted to associate themselves with.. Apparently a lord of evil is alright, though.

== 2012 smaller size class toys ==

Both of the smaller size class figures (the y-wing and delta 7B remolds) have made it to toy stores (specificially the Entertainer) in the UK. Have both in front of me. So yeah, the 'scheduled to be released but haven't been yet banner can be got rid of by the approppriate persons.

Talk:Battle Lines, Part 6

2012-01-03T13:50:14Z

Durge: /* So...who is Ultra Magnus? */

I asked Pete Sinclair if we could name pre-First Aid-who's-not-First-Aid "Firster Aid," and he said yes. Does that mean we can make a hilarious page? :D --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:49, 23 December 2011 (EST)
: DO EET. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 18:51, 23 December 2011 (EST)

== So...who is Ultra Magnus? ==

I'm a little confused- Trion says he can only fix dion OR magnum and the finished product is ultra magnus. Who is it who is rebuilt- dion or magnum? Or did Alpha combine the two, given that one of the contenders for the classic 'who is ultra magnus?' question is dion and magnum is very clearly pre-magnus? Bit of a shame for dion to die all over again... [[User:Durge|Durge]] 15:27, 1 January 2012 (EST)
: You are not intended to know. It is intentionally a mystery between the two possibilities. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:44, 1 January 2012 (EST)
:: Bummer. You got any theories on the matter? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 08:50, 3 January 2012 (EST)

Talk:Battle Lines, Part 6

2012-01-01T20:27:51Z

Durge: /* So...who is Ultra Magnus? */ new section

Sentinel Prime (ROTF)

2011-12-27T14:57:07Z

Durge: /* Leader Class toys */

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:''Sentinel Prime is an [[Autobot]] from the [[live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:DOTM-Sentinel-Heatscramble.jpg|300px|thumb|What does [[Spock]] need with a [[Ark (DOTM)|starship]]?]]

'''Sentinel Prime''' hails from an older time, when [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] was the galaxy's crown jewel, and the [[Transformer]] race was full of promise and potential. The only known remaining [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], he personified what a leader should be: wise, compassionate, and a more than worthy warrior. Revered by both Autobot and Decepticon, few would dare stand against his shield and [[Primax Blade]].

But when Sentinel was presumably lost forever on board the [[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], his hand-picked successor, was left to fill his void. The loss of Sentinel signaled the end of Cybertron's golden age, and the planet spiraled deeper into war. Some who recall Sentinel's reign bitterly remember when Transformers were masters of their fate, rather than scattered to the stars and living as exiles. Above all, Sentinel Prime is a staunch nationalist. He loves his home planet with all of his [[Spark]] and will do anything- even go to extremes- to protect it.

{{bigquote|You simply fail to understand that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.|Sentinel Prime|''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''. No, seriously.}}

==Fiction==
===IDW live-action film comics===
[[Image:Foundation1-SentinelPrimeaword.jpg|left|thumb|225px|"That word is ''fart''."]]
Sentinel Prime was a direct descendant of the first Cybertronian, [[Primus]], and was believed to be the last of the [[Prime (rank)|Primes]]. He told tales to his much younger Cybertronian brethren of how the [[Dynasty of Primes]] had called upon a legendary artifact, the star-powered [[AllSpark]], to give life to their world. But the AllSpark had been lost to history, and their world had tumbled through the cosmos without a star to orbit for eons. Sentinel Prime had plans to rectify this, and he gathered followers who believed in his path to a new age of life on Cybertron. With the help of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], and their legions, they searched the planet for the legendary artifact and a way to power it. However, there were the [[Thetacon (tribe)|Thetacons]], a tribe of separatist Transformers who disbelieved in Sentinel Prime's vision, and warred against him and his followers. This conflict ended when, with the help of [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]], a sun to orbit was brought to Cybertron, and the AllSpark discovered and energized.

[[Image:Foundation1 freedom.jpg|right|225px|thumb|"Hey, a body! Buff, tanned... yeah, this is mine alright."]]

Though Sentinel Prime had finally returned the forgotten concept of "freedom" back to Cybertron, he felt he no longer had a part in its path to the future. He was old and tired, and spoke in confidence to Optimus, believing that young Autobot was also part of the Prime lineage and requesting that he take on the mantle of leadership. Though Optimus was too humble to accept, not believing Sentinel's claims about his heritage, Megatron overheard their conversation and became jealous of his "brother." {{storylink|Foundation issue 1|Foundation #1}} Sentinel formulated another plan for Cybertron's future: it would be governed by Optimus's [[Science Division]] and Megatron's [[Defense Force]]. By having Optimus investigate the remains of the Primes' civilization, it would encourage him to believe in his lineage. {{storylink|Foundation issue 2|Foundation #2}}

Alas, after two generations of successful shared leadership, Megatron fell under the sway of [[The Fallen]], and reshaped his Defense Force as the [[Decepticon]]s, declaring war on Cybertron. Sentinel Prime was at the archaeological dig in Simfur when the first strike took place, and was quick to opt for a technique of self-preservation, rather than attempting to save the Science Division's work. Optimus soon arrived to fend the Decepticons off, and revealed that his studies had proven the truth of Sentinel's words: he was indeed a descendant of the Primes. He did not believe that this made him a born leader, but Sentinel impressed upon Optimus the necessity that he take up command of the [[Autobot]]s, that Cybertron might be saved from Megatron's destructive ambitions.

[[Image:Foundation3 sentinels torch.jpg|left|thumb|"Jim... I am, and forever shall be, your friend."]]

As time passed, and the war rolled on with no signs of stopping, Sentinel Prime is forced to make a deal with Megatron to seek out another planet whose resources they can exploit to restore their homeworld. The chosen planet is the resting place of the Primes' Star Harvester. Sentinel recreates the Primes' lost [[space bridge]] technology, fashioning hundreds of pillars that will form a bridge large enough to teleport Cybertron itself across the cosmos {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}{{storylink|Dark of the Moon issue 3}} Sentinel then invented a mysterious "torch" that he promised would end the war. {{storylink|Foundation issue 3|Foundation #3}} The torch had to be brought into contact with the AllSpark to be activated, so the Autobots launched an attack on the Simfur temple to carry out this action while Sentinel stood by with a spacecraft, the [[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]], to await delivery of the active torch. [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita One]] soon returned with the torch, at which point Sentinel instructed Wheeljack to take the [[Ark (Movie)|second Ark]] and collect the remaining Autobots from [[Tyger Pax]], while he himself headed to Simfur to collect Optimus's forces. Upon arrival at Simfur, however, Sentinel's Ark was attacked by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], and was consumed by a huge explosion, leaving all present to believe it, Sentinel, and all aboard had been destroyed. {{storylink|Foundation issue 4|Foundation #4}}

In actuality, Sentinel's Ark had not been vaporized as believed: it had been teleported away by the [[space bridge]] technology it was outfitted with. With all hands knocked into stasis by the explosion, the ship automatically jinked through space and time on a series of random space bridge jumps, until at last, its sensors locked on to the energy of the AllSpark, which had since been ejected from Cybertron and had crash-landed on the planet [[Earth]]. On its penultimate jump, the Ark crossed paths with the Decepticon ship ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'', which had departed Cybertron just as the war was beginning, and was now also following the AllSpark's trail. The Ark materialized from its jump into the same physical space as the ''Nemesis'', crippling both ships beyond repair; the Ark made one final bridge jump, reappearing in the immediate vicinity of Earth in 1962, where it crashed violently onto Earth's [[moon (moon)|Moon]]. All the Autobots aboard perished save for Sentinel himself, who was in the crash vault and remained slumbering in stasis. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 1|Convergence chapter 1}}
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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
When [[Sam Witwicky]] launched into a rambling lecture on the nature of space and time while in a trance brought on by the knowledge of the AllSpark entering his mind, he recalled Sentinel Prime's "expedition" to find Cybertron a new sun, commenting that it took "fourteen galactic convergences" to get an echo. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

===Titan Magazines ''Dark of the Moon'' prequels===

Sentinel is a direct descendant of [[Primus]], the first Cybertronian, and one of the last surviving Primes. With a firm but just hand, he ruled the Autobots before the war. During the war, he named Optimus his successor before departing on a mission into deep space, only for his ship to be shot down by enemy fire...

But his Ark merely crashed somewhere near Earth in 1962, a fragment of it landing in Fiesole, [[Italy]]. When a human discovered it in 2011, [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] tried to prevent the Autobots from getting that fragment and finding their way to the lost Ark. The Autobots finding Sentinel was ''not'' an option for Starscream and the concept unnerved him, while an ominous narrator told us the fragment had the power to make martyrs of the good and bad alike... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 3.1|Fight for Fiesole}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
:''Voice actor'': [[Leonard Nimoy]] (English), [[Nobuyuki Katsube]] (Japanese), [[Arturo Casanova]] (Latin American Spanish)

{{bigquote|So lost are you, Optimus. On Cybertron we were gods. And here... here they call us "machines."}}

[[Image:DOTM-Sentinelsleeps.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Sentinel just can't get to sleep without his security [[pillar]].]]

Long ago, during the war on Cybertron, a heated battle erupted around the [[Ark (DOTM)|''Ark'']], a shuttle commandeered by Sentinel Prime and a small crew, which carried a special, secret cargo that Sentinel claimed would end the war. However, the shuttle was hit in battle, disappeared, and presumed lost forever. In [[1961]], the ''Ark'' hit [[Earth]]'s [[moon (moon)|moon]], crashing there, and its impact was detected by [[NASA]]. This event inspired the [[United States of America]]'s eventual first trip to the moon in [[1969]], which was secretly an attempt to inspect the crashed alien ship. However before Apollo 11 got there, approximately two hundred Decepticons and [[Orbital Assault Carrier]]s raided the Ark, stole the ship's cargo and concealed themselves under the Moon's surface. A Space Bridge Technology called a [[Pillar]]. However they left five Pillars along with Sentinel in the crash vault. When Apollo reached the moon, the crew cut communication with every NASA worker apart from the highest command. They searched the ship and returned to Earth. Though NASA astronauts would make a handful of trips to the moon in the next few years, none would stumble upon the ''Ark''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> crash vault, which contained Sentinel Prime's comatose body and a small fraction of his secret cargo.

In 1972 the moon program was [[Soundwave (ROTF)|mysteriously]] [[Laserbeak (DOTM)|shut down]], thereby preventing the Soviets from landing on the Moon and discovering Sentinel and the Pillars.

The United States government had classified the moon missions' real purpose, even from the Autobots, but a human associate of Col. [[William Lennox]] told him about a detected alien signature. Optimus Prime and a [[NEST]] team travelled to the ruins of [[Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant|Chernobyl]] where Optimus located and identified a piece of technology from the missing ''Ark''. After retrieving the ''Ark'' piece, he confronted the US government for hiding this information from him, and subsequently travelled to the moon with [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] to find and retrieve Sentinel Prime.

[[Image:DOTM-Sentinelendofyourworld.jpg|left|thumb|300px|"You look ridiculous." ''...Except for that glorious mustache...'']]

With Sentinel Prime's comatose body returned successfully to NEST's headquarters, along with five "pillars," Optimus Prime used his [[Matrix of Leadership]] to return Sentinel Prime to operational status. Disoriented, Sentinel attacked Optimus, pushing him to the ground and shoving his [[Primax Blade]] near his face, and after some worried protests from Optimus, Sentinel finally realized his surroundings and disengaged. Although he had to admit that the war for Cybertron had been lost, Optimus tried to console his predecessor with news that they had also recovered the five pillars that were in the crash vault with him, but Sentinel grew further frustrated, as there should have been ''hundreds'' of them. Sentinel explained that the pillars were the anchors of a new [[space bridge]] technology that he had intended to use to bring resources back to Cybertron to replenish it. National Security Director [[Charlotte Mearing]] did not like this idea at all, and announced her intent to take possession of these pillars, as they could be used to bring an army to Earth to destroy it. Sentinel did not like being condescended to by the human. The technology was his, and the humans had no right to it.

[[Image:DOTM-SentinelOptimusMatrix.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"Sorry Optimus, I don't want it. Because when I kill someone, I want them to ''stay'' dead."]]

Optimus gave Sentinel a tour of Earth, culminating in a view of a sunset. Sentinel marvelled at the beauty and the liveliness of the planet as it reminded him of Cybertron in its prime. Optimus took this moment to offer Sentinel back the Matrix of Leadership, believing Sentinel to deserve it more. But Sentinel refused it, as Sentinel was only more experienced long ago on Cybertron, while this new world of Earth was unfamiliar to him.

The Autobots' young human ally, [[Sam Witwicky]] found evidence that led him to believe that the Decepticons possessed the missing pillars and would be coming after Sentinel Prime since they needed him to activate the technology. In an attempt to shield Sentinel from the Decepticons, several Autobots escorted Sentinel Prime back to NEST headquarters. [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and the others successfully fended off a [[Dread (subgroup)|team of Decepticons]], but once Sentinel reached their destination, he unveiled a terrible truth. He had been secretly (and reluctantly) working with Megatron for centuries, and the space bridge was technology Sentinel had created so that he and the Decepticons could bring Earth's resources back to Cybertron so that they could rebuild their dead homeworld. But as both Megatron and Sentinel Prime had ended up in stasis for centuries, this secret plan had gone waylaid... until now, after the Autobots came into control of the Matrix, which could re-activate dead Transformers, and so the Decepticons and their human allies had created a plan to lead Optimus Prime to the Moon where he could retrieve and revive his predecessor for them.

Sentinel punctuated this bombshell by shooting Ironhide in the back repeatedly with his [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] weapon.

{{note|In the [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|novelization]] and [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation|comic book adaptation]], Sentinel kills [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] too. However this was not seen in the film as they were removed from the final cut.}}

As Ironhide crumbled away and died, Sentinel fired at Bumblebee as well, though the scout was able to dodge his blasts. Sentinel dove into NEST headquarters, tore the place apart, and retrieved the five pillars from the compound's vault. An enraged Charlotte Mearing barged in and confronted Sentinel head on and demanded an explanation for his betrayal. Sentinel simply stated that he was a Prime and did not take orders from the humans.

[[Image:DOTMSentinelOptimus.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Give me ''your'' face!]]

As Megatron arrived in truck mode from his exile in [[Africa]], Sentinel Prime set up a small space bridge portal on the Reflecting Pool facing the [[Lincoln Memorial]]. As troops hidden on the Moon began to burst through the portal and scan local vehicle forms, Optimus Prime interrupted Sentinel's work with an angry tackle. Optimus demanded an explanation for Sentinel's betrayal, and Sentinel responded that Optimus never had the resolve to make the tough choices, and that Earth must be sacrificed for Cybertron to be reborn. Sentinel left Optimus to stew in his anger, telling his former protege that he was lucky Sentinel left him alive.

Speaking to the [[United Nations]], Sentinel demanded that the "Autobot rebels" be expelled from Earth and that he and the Decepticons be able to take what resources from Earth they required. The humans wasted no time in agreeing, and the [[Xantium (DOTM)|''Xantium'']] was launched with Earth's remaining eleven Autobots inside... though [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] was waiting in orbit to blast the shuttle to bits.

[[Image:DOTM-SentinelandMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Sentinel and his new hobo friend.]]

Decepticons around the world began positioning the pillars precisely according to Sentinel's instructions as the first brunt of the Decepticons' assault began in [[Chicago]]. Sentinel had chosen a tall, domed building in Chicago's downtown as the focal point of the space bridge. Megatron joined him on the roof of this building, and the Decepticon leader began to gloat about the success of their partnership. Sentinel, however, felt his partner was getting too chummy, and violently reminded Megatron of his place. Sentinel did not work ''for'' Megatron, Megatron worked for ''Sentinel''.

Sentinel and the Decepticons succeeded in occupying Chicago, but the Autobots, who had managed to survive their apparent destruction through subterfuge, arrived in the city to take it back and destroy the space bridge technology. Sentinel activated the space bridge, and a large portal opened in space above Earth, through which the massive planet Cybertron began to materialize. After defeating most of the Decepticon forces, the Autobots caught Sentinel Prime's attention, and their former leader descended from his building perch to battle Optimus Prime. After a prolonged fight, and the removal of one of Optimus's arms, it became obvious that Sentinel was the more powerful of the two.

[[Image:DOTM-allIeverwanted.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Do you really want to hurt me? Do you really want to make me cry?]]

Before Sentinel could deliver the killing blow, however, he came under attack by Megatron, who had been goaded into action by Sam's girlfriend [[Carly Spencer]]. Megatron realized how far he had fallen in power within the past few years, and had decided to once again take his rightful place at the top of the command chain. Sentinel was taken by surprise and amassed critical damage. Though this action by Megatron saved Optimus's life, the Autobot leader refused Megatron's offer of a truce and killed his seemingly eternal foe, leaving Optimus and Sentinel alone once more. Finally, Sentinel seemed to understand how far he himself had also fallen, and apologized for betraying the Autobots as he pleaded for mercy. Optimus countered that Sentinel had, more importantly, betrayed ''himself'' and his professed ideals, and as his former mentor howled at the ruination of his plans, Optimus unceremoniously executed Sentinel Prime with Megatron's fusion shotgun.

{{note|In an earlier draft of the movie's script, Optimus would have turned the tables on Sentinel by killing him with his own cannon, as opposed to using Megatron's Fusion shotgun in the actual film.}}

The deed done, Optimus Prime threw down the weapon in disgust.
{{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

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==Toys==
===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
[[Image:DOTM_CyberverseCommander_SentinelPrime_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|Prime 3:16!]]
*'''Sentinel Prime''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2011)
**''Series'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''002'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''CV05'''
**''Accessories:'' Primax blade, shield

: Sentinel Prime is in the first wave of [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|''Dark of the Moon'']] ''[[Cyberverse]]'' Commander Class toys. He transforms from a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck to robot and back. He comes with his sword and shield, which he can wield in either hand. The sword stores underneath while the shield folds in half and becomes the fire truck roof and boom arm. Because the boom arm has a grip at the middle that allows Sentinel to hold it in shield mode, the grip can be used as a [[C joint]] bar in vehicle mode.

: Because of clearance issues, bringing and folding his arms to his back for vehicle mode can be rather difficult. The shoulders are more likely to pop off the plastic swivels they're on.

: On some (early?) Sentinels, the Rosenbauer logo on the right side of the truck is reversed.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/CommanderSentinelPrime/sentinelprime.htm More information on Cyberverse Commander Sentinel Prime at TFU.info]
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[[Image:DOTM_Cyberverse_Commander_DarkSentinelPrime.jpg|thumb|300px|Welcome to Sunnyside!]]
*'''Dark Sentinel Prime''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2011)
**''Series'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''010'''
**''Japanese ID number:''
**''Accessories:'' Primax blade, shield

: Dark Sentinel Prime is a redeco of the previous ''Cyberverse'' Sentinel Prime. He's... lighter, but has some ''evil''-looking red eyes.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/DarkSentinelPrime/sentinelprime.htm More information on Dark Sentinel Prime at TFU.info]

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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:DOTMtoy-SentinelPrimeVoyager.jpg|right|thumb|300px|There's no fire? There ''will'' be!]]
*'''Sentinel Prime''' (MechTech Voyager, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DA20'''
**''Accessories:'' MechTech Boom Lift/[[Fusion Cannon]]

:Sentinel Prime is in the third wave of ''Dark of the Moon'' ''[[MechTech]]'' Voyagers. He converts from a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck to robot and back. He features an itty-bitty flip out nozzle on his front. His rotating and extending MechTech Boom Lift (which looks like a giant cannon due to the [[5mm post|peg]] at the tip) becomes a Fusion Cannon when a large button is pushed, but only if the button (which is rotatable) has its underside tabs aligned with its respective sockets on the weapon housing. The weapon can be locked in this mode if the button is rotated while pressed. The weapon itself features a MechTech port on each side panel, with the aforementioned peg at the tip of the Boom Lift.

:While his firetruck roof [[kibble]] is intentionally used as wings/a cape, he's still a pretty significant [[shellformer]], flopping nearly his entire firetruck side panels and front (along with his roof) onto his back, with only his wheels, leg panels, and feet being integrated in any way with his vehicle mode.

:Like the Cyberverse Dark Sentinel Prime, this figure's Autobot symbols are deliberately scratched out. However, his box bio remains coy about his true nature.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/VoyagerSentinelPrime/sentinelprime.htm More information on Voyager Sentinel Prime at TFU.info]
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====Leader Class toys====
[[Image:DOTMtoy-SentinelPrimeMechtechLeader.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Live-action hyper goldfish!]]
*'''Sentinel Prime''' (MechTech Leader, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DA02'''
**''Accessories:'' Primax Blade, MechTech Shield/Bladed Blaster

:''MechTech'' Leader Class Sentinel Prime converts from a Rosenbauer Panther 6x6 airport fire truck to robot and back! In vehicle mode, he features a rotating, extending firefighting boom arm, a small flip-up nozzle on the front fender, and siren lights and sounds, activated by a small grey button on the roof of the cabin. There are two [[5mm post]] hole MechTech ports in this mode; the one on the right hand side of the vehicle has a button inside, that when pushed in (by plugging in a MechTech weapon), activates a weapon deploying sound effect. Pressing the cabin roof button in this mode activates a weapon firing sound. Removing the MechTech weapon activates the [[Transformation#The noise|transformation sound effect]].

:A [[Stealth Force]]-style attack vehicle mode can be formed by opening panels on the rearward sides of the vehicle to expose hidden weapons (that look like missiles) and two more MechTech ports, activating the MechTech Shield's Bladed Blaster mode (by pressing the large button on it marked by the [[Cyberglyphics]]) and attaching that to the vehicle MechTech ports, and clipping the Primax Blade's handle into the two tabs on top of the Shield/Bladed Blaster's turret. In a reversal of his Cyberverse toy, Sentinel's double-bladed Primax Blade folds in half and stores underneath the grey panels forming the roof of much of the vehicle, while the MechTech shield is stored under the truck.

:In robot mode, when the button on Sentinel Prime's chest is pushed, his eyes light up, his chin moves and he says "I am Sentinel Prime!" Two more phrases, "Good to see you alive, Optimus." and "What has happened to the [[AllSpark]]?" are heard when a weapon is inserted into the MechTech port with the button inside of it and the chest button pushed. Unfortunately, the [[Canada|Canadian]] release only says "Sentinel Prime" because of language laws. The siren lights and sounds can still be activated by pressing the grey button back and to the left of Sentinel Prime's head.

:In this mode, Sentinel has four more 5mm MechTech ports: one each on either shoulder and one each on either forearm. If that's still not enough, the screw holes under his wrists can accommodate 5mm weapons as well, for a total of eight weapons beyond those included with the figure. The Primax Blade and Shield can both be held via their respective handles in either of Sentinel's articulated hands; the shield can also be plugged into the MechTech port in Sentinel's forearms.

:The red detailing on the shield as seen in the stock photography is not present on the final product.

:The Japanese release comes packed with a character card and an accompanying transparent plastic card of his MechTech weapon for the MechTech Wars online game.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/SentinelPrime/sentinelprime.htm More information on Leader Sentinel Prime at TFU.info]
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==Merchandise==
===Speed Stars===
====Mini Changers====
[[Image:SpeedStars_StealthForce_MiniChangers_Bumblebee&SentinelPrime.jpg|thumb|300px|"''You'' were trying eat the last cheesy puff!"]]
*'''Stealth Force Bumblebee & Sentinel Prime''' (2011)

:This non-transforming toy of Sentinel Prime is packed with a non-transforming Stealth Force Bumblebee.

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[[Image:SpeedStars_StealthForce_MiniChangers_Sideswipe&SentinelPrime.jpg|thumb|300px|Well, that's not how I remember it.]]
*'''Stealth Force Sideswipe & Sentinel Prime''' (2011)

:This non-transforming toy of Sentinel Prime comes with a non-transforming Stealth Force Sideswipe.

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==Notes==
[[Image:DOTM-SentinelPrimetrailer.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Jim, you left me on Genesis. Why did you do that?]]

{{quote|Sentinel Prime is great. He's great...I can't tell you anything else, other than he's great.|Michael Bay<ref>[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1657670/michael-bay-transformers-dark-of-the-moon.jhtml Interview at MTV]</ref>}}

*In an early draft of ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'', time stops as [[Sam Witwicky]] falls down the building [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] smashed, and Sentinel appears to him via the [[AllSpark]]. Sentinel would've clarified the history of the war and the relationship between Optimus and Megatron (expanding on their history as siblings) and given him a clue to defeating Megatron with the Cube.<ref>[http://badflipblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/tf1-amblin.html Blog post] from [[Ken Christiansen]].</ref>

*An early working name for Sentinel Prime for ''Dark of the Moon'' was '''Ultra Magnus'''.<ref>[http://tilallaremine.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/dark-of-the-moon-call-sheets/ Dark of the Moon Call Sheets! at Til All Are Mine blog.]</ref><ref>[http://www.joshnizzi.com/TF3.htm joshnizzi.com]</ref>

*In the debut trailer for the film ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'', Sentinel Prime is seen in a gold and silver color scheme. This shot was redone for the movie proper, and he consistently appears red throughout the film.

*The Rosenbauer Panther fire truck cast as Sentinel Prime was entirely repainted specifically for the film, at a cost of thousands of dollars; real-world aircraft fire-fighting vehicles are required by FAA regulations to have a much lighter color scheme.<ref>[http://www.rosenbaueramerica.com/press/2011/06/rosenbauer-panther-6x6-to-be-f/ Rosenbauer America press release, June 28, 2011]</ref>

*In ''Dark of the Moon'', Sentinel Prime says "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." Leonard Nimoy said the same line in the 1982 film ''[[Wikipedia:Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan|Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan]]'' as [[Spock]], in one of several Star Trek references in the movie.

*Sentinel Prime was physically modelled after [[Wikipedia:Sean Connery|Sean Connery]].<ref>[http://www.awn.com/articles/3d/colossal-transformers-sequel/page/2%2C1 VFXWorld article on ''Dark of the Moon''.]</ref>

*[[Walmart]] had exclusive retailer rights to use Sentinel Prime in their signage and marketing as part of their "Power of the Primes" campaign. <ref>"The Power of Partnership." Walmart World Jun. 2011: 13</ref>
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Sentinel Prime''' (センチネル・プライム ''Senchineru Puraimu'')

==References==
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[[Category:Cyberverse]]
[[Category:Dark of the Moon Autobots]]
[[Category:Primes]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Autobots]]
[[Category:Autobot leaders]]
[[Category:Turncoats]]

Mark Ryan

2011-12-26T18:19:36Z

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{{disambig3|Mark}}
[[Image:Mark ryan.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Wonder if he'll sing the "[[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Camelot Song]]" in [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]'s voice...]]
'''Mark Ryan''' (born [[June 7]], [[1956]]) a multi-talented British actor, singer, writer and director. He is perhaps best known for originating "Nasir" in the cult British TV series: ''Robin Of Sherwood''. Ryan also toured the US with original ''Monty Python'' member [[Eric Idle]], performing at Carnegie Hall and the Hollywood Bowl.

He began working on ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' during filming as the on-set voice of several different robots. This work continued throughout filming and into editing, prior to the actual casting of voice-over talent. He was then cast as the voice of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] during post-production. He would reprise both these roles during production of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''.

==Voice roles==
===''Transformers'' (2007) movie===
* Bumblebee

===''Transformers The Game''===
* [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
* [[Hoist (Movie)|Hoist]]

===''Transformers: Beginnings''===
* Bumblebee

===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
* Bumblebee (his lines were cut from the final movie, but one scene where his voice could be heard was in a promotional video created for ShoWest 2009)
* [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]

===''Revenge of the Fallen'': The Game===
* Bumblebee

==Convention appearances==
* [[BotCon 2009]]
* [[Unofficial conventions | Auto Assembly 2011]] (via Skype)

==External links==
*[http://www.markryan.info/ Official website of Mark Ryan]
*[http://mark-ryan.blogspot.com/ ''Angel In The Dark'', official blog of Mark Ryan]
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0752699/ Mark Ryan on the Internet Movie Database]
*[http://ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=2411 IF Magazine interview, Part 1]
*[http://ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=2418 IF Magazine interview, Part 2]
*[http://therealmtoys.com/wordpressorg/5025/the-realmcast-interview-mark-ryan/ Interview with Mark Ryan at The RealmCast]

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[[Category:Activision]]
[[Category:Convention guests]]
[[Category:DreamWorks]]
[[Category:English voice actors]]

Mark Ryan

2011-12-26T18:18:47Z

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{{disambig3|Mark}}
[[Image:Mark ryan.jpg|thumb|200px|right|Wonder if he'll sing the "[[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Camelot Song]]" in [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]'s voice...]]
'''Mark Ryan''' (born [[June 7]], [[1956]]) a multi-talented British actor, singer, writer and director. He is perhaps best known for originating "Nasir" in the cult British TV series: ''Robin Of Sherwood''. Ryan also toured the US with original ''Monty Python'' member [[Eric Idle]], performing at Carnegie Hall and the Hollywood Bowl.

He began working on ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' during filming as the on-set voice of several different robots. This work continued throughout filming and into editing, prior to the actual casting of voice-over talent. He was then cast as the voice of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] during post-production. He would reprise both these roles during production of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''.

==Voice roles==
===''Transformers'' (2007) movie===
* Bumblebee

===''Transformers The Game''===
* [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
* [[Hoist (Movie)|Hoist]]

===''Transformers: Beginnings''===
* Bumblebee

===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
* Bumblebee (his lines were cut from the final movie, but one scene where his voice could be heard was in a promotional video created for ShoWest 2009)
* [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]

===''Revenge of the Fallen'': The Game===
* Bumblebee

==Convention appearances==
* [[BotCon 2009]]
* [[Unoffical conventions| Auto Assembly 2011]] (via Skype)

==External links==
*[http://www.markryan.info/ Official website of Mark Ryan]
*[http://mark-ryan.blogspot.com/ ''Angel In The Dark'', official blog of Mark Ryan]
*[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0752699/ Mark Ryan on the Internet Movie Database]
*[http://ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=2411 IF Magazine interview, Part 1]
*[http://ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=2418 IF Magazine interview, Part 2]
*[http://therealmtoys.com/wordpressorg/5025/the-realmcast-interview-mark-ryan/ Interview with Mark Ryan at The RealmCast]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Ryan, Mark}}
[[Category:Activision]]
[[Category:Convention guests]]
[[Category:DreamWorks]]
[[Category:English voice actors]]

Talk:Transformers (film)

2011-12-26T18:15:52Z

Durge: /* Furman didnt, Ryan did */ new section

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==TF Refs==
''During the fight between the humans and Frenzy in Hoover Dam's communication room, Reggie brandishes a flamethrower and yells "Buuuurrrnnn!" twice while using it, referencing the Beast Wars character Inferno.''
This sounds like a reeeeeal stretch to me. Unless we've heard from the production crew that this was the intention, it seems a bit too generic to be a true reference. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

:Another thing about the refs. In Mission city Optimus says to Megatron "It's just you and me Megatron". Well, in The Unicorn Battles just before they fight, Galvatron says the same thing to Optimus.--[[User:Closetjedi|Closetjedi]] 02:17, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

::If it's a reference to anything, it's to [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

:::That's true. I had to rewatch it. Also, that reminded me that in the movie Megatron has fallen under the ice, like Skyfire in G1--[[User:Closetjedi|Closetjedi]] 03:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

::::The latter is way too much of a stretch to be a reference. "Ancient thing frozen in ice gets thawed out and comes to life" is a fictional plot device as old as time. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 04:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== (Movie) ==

Why is this not at "Transformers (Movie)" when ''every other article'' relating to this movie which needs a (disambig) uses (Movie)? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:51, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
:Because that would be confusing when there is a [[The Transformers: The Movie]] - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:05, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

== Under 'Notes' ==

Would it be worth noting that there was a rip-off movie called 'Transmorphers' released in 2007 (plus a prequel in 2009 called 'Transmorphers: Fall of Man')? - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 23:28, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
:Maybe a mention in the [[knockoff]]s article would be appropriate, lol -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 02:11, 23 April 2010 (EDT)

== Characters ==

What about the guy who was chained to the post with Simmons, who had his phone on speaker?—[[User:TOM|TOM]] 19:26, 3 January 2011 (EST)

what about the autobot generic who gets sphered by megatron in prime's record of cybertron {{unsigned|92.241.62.70|06:13, 28 January 2011 (EST)}}
:What about him? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 06:19, 28 January 2011 (EST)

== Synopsis ==

Is the "synopsis" section based on the novelization or something? The way I remember the movie, it begins with a brief narration by Optimus Prime, then the largely unexplained (at the moment) attack on Qatar, leading into the movie proper. Or is this page meant to give a more general idea of the movie universe's chronology than a summary of its plot? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 23:41, 8 March 2011 (EST)
:It seems to be a proper synopsis with the flashbacks and background information about Megatron, Archibald Witwicky, and all that front-loaded so it's all in chronological order. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 00:43, 9 March 2011 (EST)
::I'm more concerned about the fact that the synopsis, which is supposed to be written in-universe, begins with "The film opens...". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:45, 9 March 2011 (EST)

== Errors! ==

You're not quoting the Movie, which is weird cos they mostly are of 98% '86 Movie, 2% non-'86 Movie. --[[Special:Contributions/69.19.14.32|69.19.14.32]] 15:10, 29 May 2011 (EDT)

== Furman didnt, Ryan did ==

Can we add near the bottom of the page that whilst Simon isn't a fan of the movies, Mark Ryan said at Auto Assembly 2011 that he is proud of his contributions to the movies? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 13:15, 26 December 2011 (EST)

Cramp

2011-11-05T23:28:46Z

Durge: /* Animation and technical errors */

{{episode|
|series=Armada
|ep=48
|prev=Portent
|next=Alliance
|title="Cramp"
|furigana=しんねん
|japanese=決死
|romaji=Shinnen
|translation=Prepared for Death: Conviction
|image=Starscreamheroicdeath.jpg
|caption=
|production code=TF: A-48
|production company=[[TV Tokyo]], [[Nihon Ad Systems|NAS]]
|writer=[[Akira Okeya]]
|director=[[Osamu Kamijō]], [[Mitsuru Kawasaki]] (asst. dir.)
|animation studio=[[Actas Inc.]]
|airdate=[[September 29]], [[2003]] (English) [[November 28|28 November]] 2003 (Japanese)
|continuity=[[Unicron Trilogy]]
}}

'''Starscream prepares to do whatever it takes to convince Galvatron the threat of Unicron is real.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Image:Starsmack.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Galvatron blasts Starscream with his rarely seen armpit-laser.]]
[[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] pleads to [[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]], hoping to convince his leader that the threat of [[Unicron]] is real (as Starscream has first hand experience in the beast's bowels) and that perhaps an alliance between the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s is the safest course to ensure the survival of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. When Starscream refuses to stop pleading, Galvatron slaps his subordinate into a wall to silence him. The Decepticon leader is confident his military can overcome both the Autobots and Unicron. Starscream continues to stress the danger of Unicron, and Galvatron starts to swing his [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]].

[[Image:Cramp-Starscreamdies.jpg|right|200px|thumb|[[Code of Hero|The rest is... silence]]. Well, [[Energon (cartoon)|not really]], but don't you kinda wish it was?]]
The Autobots are still optimistic, believing there's a chance a diplomatic conference could lead to a truce between the two sides. Which means the Autobots can't take aggressive action against the Decepticons, only defensive. Galvatron, armed with the Star Saber and [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], flies into battle, ready to negotiate with [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] using firepower. Prime responds by combining with [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] and [[Overload (Armada)|Overload]] and heading away from the thick of the battle.

By a [[Megatron statue|monolithic statue of Megatron]], Starscream wonders who is he is and what he needs to do. [[Alexis Thi Dang|Alexis]]'s words of encouragement run through his head.

Away from the armies, Galvatron and Optimus Prime send their men away, leaving the two leaders to battle one on one. Through the battle, Galvatron admits that he still considers Unicron to be an Autobot hoax, and with the Star Saber, he has the upper hand against Prime. As soon as Megatron breaks Prime's metal, an explosion disturbs the showdown. Starscream walks from the smoke.

The rest of the Autobots are struggling to hold their ground, unable to cause any real damage to the Decepticons. Alexis has faith that things will be okay. Thousands of miles away, Unicron's lunar shell peels off and the behemoth attacks the assembled Mini-Con cluster.

[[Image:Cramp-Swindleejects.jpg|left|175px|thumb]]
Starscream quits the Decepticons and challenges Galvatron to one-on-one combat. The two clash, quickly cutting into each other. Starscream displays a show of skill beyond the last time he battled Megatron. Lightning from Unicron carves into the landscape, but the two warriors ignore the weather and continue their struggle. But in an instant, the Star Saber plunges into Starscream's torso, and the impaled Decepticon falls.

Lying with the blade sticking out of him, Starscream speaks earnestly to Galvatron, pointing out that it was Megatron's own arrogance that drove the situation to be what it is. Despite his injury, Starscream stands up and reiterates his wishes for a truce between the two Cybertronian factions against Unicron. His final wish said, Starscream joins with his [[Mini-Con]] to fire his Proton cannons upwards at Unicron. Unicron fires back, disintegrating Starscream, much to both Galvatron and Optimus's shock.

[[Image:Cramp-AlexismournsStarscream.jpg|left|175px|thumb|I never got to tell Starscream that I loved him!]]

Realizing that Starscream was right about the threat of Unicron, Galvatron remembers all the experiences he had with him, and finally decides to join forces with Optimus Prime. He starts off by offering the Star Saber to Optimus.... BUT from the crater Starscream died in, a dark cloud emerges and grabs the Star Saber! The cloud forms into [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], who escapes the two leaders and escapes through the underground portal, making sure to collapse them so he can't be followed. Upon witnessing Sideways's escape, Optimus and Galvatron fear for the worst to come.

Aboard the ''[[Axalon (Armada)|Axalon]]'', Alexis's [[Good Luck Necklace|luck charm]] breaks, and she runs outside to look out the window just to see Starscream's laser blast fade away. Hearing news of Starscream's death over the video screen, the kids become sad, most notably Alexis, who begins crying. She runs out of the room and slams her fist on the window that displays Unicron, in grief. When [[Rad White|Rad]] appears behind her, she smacks his shoulders with her hands, asking why Starscream would do that. Rad does his best to try and console her.
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] (8)
*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] (9)
*[[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]] (10)
*[[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]] (14)
*[[Smokescreen (Armada)|Hoist]] (15)
*[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] (16)
*[[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]] (17)
*[[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] (18)
*[[Overload (Armada)|Overload]] (20)

|c2=
*[[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] (1)
*[[Megatron (Armada)|Galvatron]] (2)
*[[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]] (3)
*[[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]] (4)
*[[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] (5)
*[[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]] (19)

|c3=
*[[Fred (Armada)|Fred]] (6)
*[[Billy (Armada)|Billy]] (7)
*[[Carlos Lopez|Carlos]] (11)
*[[Alexis Thi Dang|Alexis]] (12)
*[[Rad White|Rad]] (13)

|h4=[[Mini-Con]]s|c4=
*[[Sureshock (Armada)|Sureshock]] (22)
*[[Grindor (Armada)|Grindor]] (23)
*[[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]] (24)
*[[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]] (22)

|h5=Other|c5=
*[[Unicron]] (21)
*[[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]] (23)
}}

==Quotes==
"How long have we been adversaries, Optimus? It seems like since the beginning of time. And I suppose I do have a certain respect for you but I digress, you might have fooled Starscream with your little Truce ploy, but I am nobody's fool. Now let's end this charade, shall we?"
:—'''Galvatron''' faces off against Optimus Prime in the 'negotiations'.

"May I suggest that you have lost your mind?!"
:—'''Galvatron''' to Starscream, who has just challenged him to a duel.

[[Image:Cramp-Galvatronregrets.jpg|right|250px|thumb|You'll miss me when I'm gone!]]
"I tried to gain favour from you. But nothing was ever good enough. No matter how many battles I fought, you always found fault. Then I saw how Optimus treated his men, and I realized he was a leader of integrity. Unlike you." 
"You were too weak to ever gain my respect." 
"None of that matters now. You must listen — do as Optimus says and join forces with the Autobots, or else every last one of us is doomed! Please sir... do it for me..."
:—'''Starscream''' pours his spark out to '''Galvatron''' after being impaled by the Star Saber
{{--}}

==Notes==
===Differences with ''Micron Legend''===
[[Image:Cramp - no ML title card.JPG|right|thumb|250px|Foreshadowing? Why, no!]]
* In earlier episodes of ''Micron Densetsu'', the title card usually shows up with Optimus against a white background. In this episode, there's no title card. Instead, the title shows up over Starscream.
* Just before Megatron impales Starscream, the animation is tweaked to make it clear the latter "switched off" his sword, having no intention of blocking the fatal blow. The two of them don't exchange any jibes here, they just say each-other's names and Megatron kneels, realizing what Starscream has done.
* The dialogue after this was also somewhat altered in the dub. Instead of talking about how he unsuccessfully sought to gain favor from his leader, Starscream tells Megatron that he considers him the ultimate warrior and could never hope to defeat him. The voiceover during the montage at the end is mostly a flashback to Starscream yammering about wanting a Minicon and telling Megatron that he'll defeat him.

===Animation and technical errors===
* In the first scene of the episode, Demolishor has four fingers and one thumb on each hand.
* Jetfire shoots Tidal Wave in the eye...with the back of his rifle?

===Transformers references===
* Starscream's death by crumbling into a pile of debris is very similar to the death scene of ''Generation 1'' [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream's]] in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''.

===Real-world references===
* Fred's "The horror!" line is from ''[[Wikipedia:Heart of Darkness|Heart of Darkness]]'', the novel adapted into the film ''[[Wikipedia:Apocalypse Now|Apocalypse Now]]''.

* Megatron gives Starscream one last chance not to fight, and when Starscream declines, Megatron's, "Is that your final answer?" line might be a reference to ''[[Wikipedia:Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?"|Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?]]''.

===Trivia===
* The English-language version of "Cramp" first aired in the United Kingdom on the [[Wikipedia:Sky1|Sky One]] channel, at the time the network was running a round-the-clock promotion of American magician/"endurance artist" [[Wikipedia:David Blaine|David Blaine]]'s controversial London stunt, complete with an obnoxious '''DAVID BLAINE''' on-screen overlay. It aired in the United States on [[December 8]], 2003.
* Optimus calls Starscream's Mini-Con Swindle instead of Zapmaster. So logically, this means that Swindle received a color-change like Starscream did (instead of Starscream exchanging his Mini-Con for a new one in different colors).
* Starscream's photon cannon blasts don't even make it all the way up to Unicron. You can see them dissipate before Alexis's eyes before they reach him. Most heart-wrenching suicide ever?
*The Star Saber is significantly weaker than usual in this episode. Optimus Prime blocked it with his hands and Starscream blocked it with his sword.
*Similarly, Tidal Wave is also significantly smaller and weaker than previously depicted. Jetfire, shown not much smaller than Tidal Wave, in a single movement, shoulder-blocks and lifts off with him.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;DVD
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2003 — ''Transformers: Armada'' — Vol:14 ([[Warner Bros.|Warner Music Video]]) 
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2004 — ''Transformers: Micron Legend'' — Volume 12 ([[Columbia Music Entertainment]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2006 — ''Transformers: Armada'' — Season One: Part Two ([[Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — ''Transformers: Armada'' — The Collector's Edition ([[Universal]]) 
[[Image:Flag of Germany.png|20px|Germany]] 2009 — ''Transformers: Armada'' — Volume Two ([[New KSM]]) — English and German audio.

[[Category:Armada episodes]]

Past

2011-11-05T21:01:27Z

Durge: /* Animation and technical errors */

{{episode|
|series=Armada
|ep=31
|prev=Runaway
|next=Past II
|title="Past"
|furigana=いんねん
|japanese=過去前編
|romaji=Innen
|translation=Past, Part 1: Pretext
|image=past.jpg
|caption=
|production code=TF: A-31
|production company=[[TV Tokyo]], [[Nihon Ad Systems|NAS]]
|writer=[[Shōji Tonoike]]
|director=[[Masayuki Motsumoto]]
|animation studio=[[Actas Inc.]]
|airdate=[[March 29]], [[2003]] (English) [[August 8|8 August]] [[2003]] (Japanese)
|continuity=[[Unicron Trilogy]]
}}

'''An Autobot and a Decepticon arrive from Cybertron, each with histories tied to the Autobot crew.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Image:AWheeljack-Fire.jpg|right|180px|thumb|BURN in the FIRES of Inferno! Maxi—err, Autobot.]]
''Surrounded by flames, [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] tries to lift off a large piece of debris holding down [[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]]'s legs. Over Wheeljack's protest, Hot Shot runs to get additional assistance, leaving his friend waiting. Outside of the flames, Hot Shot's superior refuses to let Hot Shot endanger himself by entering the flames again.''

On [[Earth]], the kids mock [[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]]'s self-introduction. Side Swipe greets [[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]], but Blurr is embarrassed and denies knowing Side Swipe. After coming inside, Side Swipe stands on his own head and calls for help to jog Blurr's memory of the two's meeting.

[[Image:Past Part 1 Side Swipe caught.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Meanwhile, in Robots in Disguise...]]
''On a sunny [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Side Swipe has been suspended upside down (possibly due to a poor attempt at a parachute landing). After a brief name exchange, Blurr blasts the rope holding Side Swipe in place.''

Seeking his savior, Side Swipe followed Blurr to Earth. But Blurr has no interest in the enthusiastic wannabe and walks away. When Side Swipe tries to follow, he stumbles and disturbs Blurr's work. Blurr, [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], and Hot Shot meet and decide that Hot Shot is best suited to becomes Side Swipe's mentor.

[[Fred (Armada)|Fred]] and [[Billy (Armada)|Billy]] play a video game. Billy wins, but both players are scolded by [[Alexis Thi Dang|Alexis]].

Hot Shot walks out into the rain to take Side Swipe under his wing. After the two are introduced, they go to the target range. Side Swipe manages to destroy his target, but without anything close to precision. Outside, Side Swipe displays that he can't transform very fast either.

''Wheeljack, stranded inside of the burning terrain, calls out for help. While Hot Shot doesn't answer, [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] marches from the flames.''

By a pretty lake, Side Swipe and Hot Shot have a heart to heart. Side Swipe explains how he idolizes the dedication of Blurr, but Hot Shot instead suggests Side Swipe set more reasonable goals to find his own identity. A black car monitors the two in secret.

[[Image:ArmadaHotShot Wheeljack sunset.jpg|right|180px|thumb|"Sure would suck if I was trapped in a fire and rescued by Megatron, owing my life to him, forcing us to be on opposite sides."]]

Alexis enjoys Fred and Billy's video game.

Cruising on a highway, the black car aggressively approaches the two [[Autobot]]s. They attempt to ignore him (assuming he's domestic to the planet), but Wheeljack knocks away Side Swipe and shows his defaced Autobot logo to Hot Shot. Side Swipe connects with his [[Mini-Con]] and accelerates to fight back, while Hot Shot remembers:

''On Cybertron, years ago, Hot Shot is appointed the supervisor of an enthusiastic younger bot. In person, Wheeljack's idolization matches Side Swipe's idolization of Blurr. Wheeljack then cryptically mentions the possibility of the two being separated by battle.''

Use of holograms, vanishing, and aggressive driving allow Wheeljack to easily knock Side Swipe off of a cliff on one side of the road. With the younger Autobot out of the way, Hot Shot and Wheeljack are formally reintroduced. Wheeljack disregards Hot Shot's apology for the abandonment on Cybertron and explains how Megatron saved and recruited him. Now the two stand on opposite sides, and Wheeljack faces down Hot Shot with his weapon drawn... and fires.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] (1)
*[[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]] (2)
*"[[Arrogant Autobot officer]]" (3)
*Hot Shot's teammate (4)
*[[Side Swipe (Armada)|Side Swipe]] (5)
*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] (6)
*[[Blurr (Armada)|Blurr]] (7)
*[[Christmas Maximus]] (14)

|c2=
*[[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] (11)

|c3=
*[[Carlos Lopez]] (7)
*[[Rad White]] (8)
*[[Alexis Thi Dang|Alexis]] (9)
*[[Fred (Armada)|Fred]] (10)
*[[Billy (Armada)|Billy]] (11)

|h4=[[Mini-Con]]s|c4=
*[[Nightbeat (Armada)|Nightbeat]] (13)
}}

==Quotes==
"Attention soldier! Side Swipe, as this moment, you will be working under the supervision and guidance of Hot Shot." 
"Under Hot Shot?" 
"That's right kid." 
"Well, who's that?" 
"I am! I'm Hot Shot, you idiot!"
:—'''Hot Shot''' assigns '''Side Swipe''' to himself.

"Prepare yourself, Hot Shot. You're about to get a little surprise from your past. You may have forgotten what you did to me but I will ''never'' forget."
:—'''Wheeljack''' expositing as he drives toward Hot Shot and Side Swipe.

"I think you're mistaken, Hot Shot. I didn't come here for revenge. I'm no longer the Wheeljack you knew. Like I said, I've been reborn. I've become... a Decepticon!" 
"No! It's... not true!" 
"Sorry, but it is. Our friendship's over. Let's forget the past and get on with our lives so we can battle as enemies, understand? There's nothing I can do to change the past."
:—'''Wheeljack''', oddly, claiming he isn't here for revenge, when he's here for revenge.

==Other notes==
===Differences with ''Micron Legend''===
===Animation and technical errors===
* Connecting with his Mini-Con changes Side Swipe's appearance, but in the next overhead shot, they re-use artwork of him before he powerlinked.
* In the shot with multiple Wheeljacks they are all missing their damaged Autobot symbols.
* Additionally, Blurr is missing the Autobot symbol on his chest in Sideswipe's flashback and then in the following scene back at the base.
* While Wheeljack is chasing Hotshot and Side Swipe, in one shot, his small Decepticon symbol is missing.
* When Wheeljack first pulls his weapon out, it's colored grey. In the next shot, it's the proper color of yellow.
* Hot Shot and Wheeljack are drawn without the details that indicate having terrestrial alternate modes. But Megatron is animated in his Earth animation model, instead of the pre-scan animation model he had in "[[First Encounter]]".
* Wheeljack claims that he isn't here for revenge, when the rest of the episode clearly shows he's obsessed with the past and is here to take revenge on Hot Shot. This is perhaps due to translation errors or merely Wheeljack's own twisted perspective.

===Trivia===
*This episode has no opening narration at all.
*One of the members of Hot Shot's team on Cybertron is identical in design to [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]], only... much larger.
*Hot Shot's other superior on Cybertron uses an identical design to [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], but in different colors and much, much smaller.
*Hot Shot's superior in the flashback is voiced by [[Brian Dobson]], but despite the dorkish behavior, it's unlikely he's [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]].
*It's never explained if Wheeljack is teleporting, or using light-manipulation.
*Nor is it explained where Side Swipe picked up his Mini-Con Nightbeat.
*Cybertron is shown to have clouds and an Earth-like atmosphere during daylight scenes in this episode.
*This episode ends on a cliffhanger, with the screen fading to black as Wheeljack points his weapon at Hot Shot, before a gunshot is heard.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;DVD
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2003 — ''Transformers: Micron Legend'' — Volume 8 ([[Columbia Music Entertainment]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2003 — ''Transformers: Armada'' — Vol:10 ([[Warner Bros.|Warner Music Video]]) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2004 — ''Transformers: Armada'' — Flashbacks ([[Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2006 — ''Transformers: Armada'' — Season One: Part Two (Rhino Entertainment) 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — ''Transformers: Armada'' — The Collector's Edition ([[Universal]]) 
[[Image:Flag of Germany.png|20px|Germany]] 2009 — ''Transformers: Armada'' — Volume Two ([[New KSM]]) — English and German audio.

[[Category:Armada episodes]]

Talk:Slamdance (G1)

2011-11-03T22:38:49Z

Durge: /* Vanity? */ new section

God, that's a horrible caption. Good job. (Also, I legitimately hate that art.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
: I am quite proud of my excellent lame. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::Hehehe. Question - can somebody 'legitimately' hate something? Does one need to be a respected art critic to legitimise their informed opinion? Also I decided to use it since I liked the Raindance drawing of the same series, and yeah, I think Slamdance is pretty badly posed. That and the G1 boxart wasn't too flash and Botch didn't have a good scan. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I've got affidavits. I take my hate seriously. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:43, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::::How seriously do you take your hate of Pat Lee art? The bastard's crap for the Aerialbots replaced Don's, the latter of which is, to my knowledge, some of the only decent official art of the individual Aerialbots (unless Jackpot and the other artists have their unpublished takes on the same characters lying around...) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:01, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure what you're talking about; three of the Aerialbots (and the group page) use stills from the cartoon rather than artwork, and neither of the other two use Pat Lee's artwork (in fact, Fireflight's page DOES use Don's art). -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 07:07, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::I was jokingly commenting on Siph's hate in general and asking him how he takes his hate with regards to Pat Lee, if he hates something Don (who is a much better artist) drew. Then I mentioned my personal pet peeve of Pat Lee's Aerialbots art replacing Don's (which was solicited, which is why we used his Fireflight) in the MTMTE books. I wasn't really commenting on existing pics in this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:13, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

== Vanity? ==

Sorry, where exactly does it say that Grand Slam is vain? Only it says in the intro paragraph that Slamdance combines the personality traits of his components and I don't see vanity outlined on Grand Slam's page. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 18:38, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Runamuck (G1)

2011-09-03T22:08:30Z

Durge: /* 2012 TFCC toy */

the stuff under idw is all about marvel. does that need to be fixed?{{unsigned|Name Violation|01:05, 13 April 2009}}
:...er, I don't know what you mean. The stuff under IDW is a direct account of what he did in IDW continuity.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:13, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
::"Runamuck moved to Latveria with the rest of the Decepticons to spark a war between the nations of Latveria and Symkaria using the Psycho-Prism." Latveria is a made up country in marvel. It also talks about Iron man and wolverine. deffinately not IDW. also the Psycho-Prism is in marvel, not IDW→[[User:Name Violation|Name Violation]] 00:00, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
:::big marvel-tf crossover a few years back?--[[User:Zi|Zi]] 00:05, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
:::[[New_Avengers/Transformers]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:15, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

== 2012 TFCC toy ==

Correct me if i'm wrong but in order to get the Runamuck tfcc figure you need to have signed up by march 2012 right? Only March 16th was the sign up date for this year's figure, Side Burn. Simple case of typo? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 07:52, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
:The sign up cut off date is the same each year. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:37, 1 September 2011 (EDT)

Indeed, but it said March 16 2011- that date has already passed and was the date for SideBurn. Someone has since corrected it to 2012 so no worries. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 18:08, 3 September 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Runamuck (G1)

2011-08-30T11:52:54Z

Durge: /* 2012 TFCC toy */ new section

Talk:Sideswipe (Movie)

2011-08-07T00:13:01Z

Durge: /* Paint */ new section

It needs to be added that Sideswipe has a legends toy. I am in posession of it right now.
Cheers! -[[Special:Contributions/74.170.18.35|74.170.18.35]] 09:16, 30 May 2009 (EDT)Proconix

New here. Just wondering why there's a "Not yet released sign at Sideswipe's FAB section. I know i have already seen it on sale for a while -Treadshot A1

== Caption Change Request ==

I'd like to change the caption of the Legends Sideswipe toy to "Whoa! I never even knew I had these driving claws!" because Sideswipe's heels can be unfolded in vehicle mode to resemble the driving claws that Armada Hot Shot had. I don't have the deluxe version so I don't know if that one can do it too. [[Special:Contributions/84.69.143.180|84.69.143.180]] 07:51, 14 September 2009 (EDT)

:No. Captions are an award for contributing. Information first, then the humour. [[User:Metal Gear NOIZE|Metal Gear NOIZE]] 08:59, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
::Well, that's what makes it a Caption Change REQUEST. If enough of us think his caption's funnier (and '''I''' like it, but I'm biased), then it could be changed. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:07, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:::I'm not exactly sold, given that the one we have now is pretty good. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:27, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
::::Okay. Movie Swerve has yet to have a pic for his Legends toy so maybe when he does, the caption could be used there instead. [[Special:Contributions/84.69.143.180|84.69.143.180]] 11:18, 15 September 2009 (EDT)
:::::You mean IF he does.--[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 11:36, 15 September 2009 (EDT)

== Zoolander reference? ==
I noticed that Hasbro said in the March 2010 Q&A answers for [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=d10ab71f63bb8dcedc22cc2162437e6e&showtopic=67971&st=0&p=1496519&#entry1496519 the Allspark] that the Legends class Bluesteel Sideswipe is a "reference to one the team's favorite comedies."
Now, there are two movies with the title "Blue Steel", but those could only be called comedies if you were viciously critical. However, "Blue Steel" also crops up as a fairly prominent term in Zoolander, so that's most likely the movie to which they're referring. Anyone else feel this is worth a mention in the trivia section? -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 20:16, 30 April 2010 (EDT)

== Human Alliance Arms ==

Have been looking at the pegs on the arms and I don't think they're anything to do the human partner figure, in alt mode there's very little clearance between the ground and car. I think the pegs are there just to stop the arms and lower torso scraping the ground. [[User:Iyato|Iyato]] 19:01, 12 March 2011 (EST)

== Light piping ==

My Sidearm Sideswipe has red light-plastic in the back of his head, but he has blue eyes. When held up to a damn powerful light source, however, they glow red. In his stock photography, however, he has one blue and one red eye. Should this info be added to the page?

== Sidearm feet ==
Should it be mentioned that for some reason the feet on Sidearms Sideswipe are extremely movie-accurate if you turn them around and tuck in the now frontal toe bit underneath (using the one now at the back to help support him)? It makes me wonder why the instructions and stock photos (ok the photos for most TF's are nearly always mistransformed anyways) have the feet the 'wrong' way. [[Special:Contributions/86.31.251.98|86.31.251.98]] 09:42, 29 October 2010 (EDT)

== toys ==

should his toys section be moved to a new page or just be kept there?[[User:Rxlthunder|Rxlthunder]] 10:17, 5 March 2011 (EST)
:There's plenty of pages more in need of splitting than this one. Check out [[Special:Longpages]]. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:20, 5 March 2011 (EST)

== Why is this even here? ==

Why isn't this part of [[Sideswipe (ROTF)]]? Or, more accurately, why isn't all of that here? Exactly what makes this nullity different from the ROTF Sideswipe? Should we merge them? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:44, 22 October 2010 (EDT)
:I would say this is separate from ROTF Sideswipe because this guy is specifically a movie-fication of a G1 character for a video game, and the ROTF guy is a different, made-up new guy for the movie who just had the same name slapped on him. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:12, 22 October 2010 (EDT)
::Eh, I say if the 3D Battle Card Swerve and the ROTF Sideswipe retool Swerve can be considered one and the same... Why not this Sideswipe and ROTF Sideswipe? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:10, 22 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Minimize therbligs. There doesn't seem to be any details here that preclude them being the same, so I'd say they are the same. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:49, 23 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Yeah, I'm in favor of taking single-sentence characters within the same continuity family and merging them unless there's evidence they are NOT the same. Didn't ROTF Sideswipe get redone into this colorscheme at some point? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 11:05, 23 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::[[Swerve (Movie)]]. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:11, 23 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::The robot mode looks too similar (except for the wheelfeet) to ROTF Sideswipe to be ignored. I'm in favor of merging the two articles or at least pointing that out in ROTF Sideswipe article- [[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 00:47, 27 October 2010 (EDT).

== DOTM Deluxe Stealth Force? ==

Sideswipe's DOTM Deluxe figure seems to have an undocumented feature. While in alt-mode, you can pull out his arms, have them face the front and kind-of fit tabs sticking out of tabs jutting out from his arms into aligned/matching posts under his alt-mode hood. Kind-of since my figure's tabs don't exactly peg-in securely. In any case, the swords on his arms can now be rotated to the front of the alt-mode. Does this count as an unmentioned Stealth-Mode like deluxe Bumblebee's hood cannons? [[Special:Contributions/175.137.115.140|175.137.115.140]] 13:59, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

== Paint ==

Are we going to mention that the image on the cardback of the DOTM deluxe shows him in a good silver paintjob like his previous deluxes but the toy itself is unpainted? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 20:13, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Silverbolt (G1)

2011-07-10T02:09:49Z

Durge: /* Universe Alt Mode */ new section

The IDW Beast Wars profile books are not out yet, which is why I didn't immediately revert the erasing of Magnaboss Silverbolt's toy information from this article, but... yeah, that's why that was moved here. Apparently, Magnaboss Silverbolt is G1 Silverbolt, and the upcoming IDW BW material is going to say so explicitly. Hooray! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:08, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

:Just revert it and put in a note or a cite. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::Nnnnnnn. Merging the Magnaboss guy with the G1 guy seems really off to me. For ten years, there's been no indication at all that they're related in any way. Then suddenly IDW comes along and says "oh by the way", and we totally erase an entire character from existence? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::If you can tell me anything about Magnaboss Ironhide, Silverbolt, and Prowl as characters, then be my guest. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Oh, like THAT's ever stopped anybody on this Wiki from getting their own page!
::::But anyways, if like some future license holder declares that they're in fact separate characters, then what? (yeah, real likely, I know.) I guess by way of comparison, we don't take the IDW movie adaptation as the final word on who became Cyclonus. The movie still showed what it showed. Why are we treating Magnaboss differently? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::If we ever get any evidence to the contrary, we'll change the page accordingly. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::While I'm not fond of the idea that two thirds of the population of the Beast Wars were guys from G1, I really don't think this is going to be a big issue. I mean Magnaboss Silverbolt never had an especially large amount of screen or page time in any sense. Don't say erased, say amalgamated or combined or integrated.--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 16:08, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Universe Toy ==

he is pretty much a shelfwarmer by now.—[[User:TOM|TOM]] 19:28, 6 January 2011 (EST)

== Universe Alt Mode ==

Came across a page on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_in_fiction) that claims that Silverbolt's Universe toy is actually an XB-70 Valkyrie. There are certainly similarities. Shall we now discuss whether to add this info in?

Talk:Banzaitron (TF 2010)

2011-06-21T14:58:16Z

Durge: /* Warped due to packaging */ new section

What's stopping this guy being G1 Banzai-Tron? None of his bios have movie characters in (save Optimus Prime, who could really be any Optimus Prime), and he doesn't have any fictional appearances...[[Special:Contributions/90.192.94.100|90.192.94.100]] 17:48, 25 February 2011 (EST)
:Because that's speculation, so until he shows up in fiction he's going to be treated as a new character. Besides, G1 Banzai-Tron is a master of Crystalocution and this one is a master of "seven martial arts". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:49, 25 February 2011 (EST)

== Warped due to packaging ==

Was mine the only Banzaitron who's black machine gun was severly warped because it was held in place in packaging from China in a bent position? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 10:58, 21 June 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Shelfwarmer

2011-06-19T15:52:28Z

Durge: /* UK Entertainer shelfwarmers as of June 2011 */ new section

Real Gears move O.K. in my neck of the woods.

Signal flare and Offshoot however, despite their awesomeness, lasted for years.[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]] 03:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I'm not sure the entire Real Gear line could be lumped in as "pegwarmers". I know there's some give and take depending on where you're located, but it's not like there's pegs and pegs of these things just sittin' around for months on end... -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::...well, there are everyplace I've looked since July. I guess it is a regional difference, but if so it's a very stark and extreme one.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say Signal Flare and Offshoot should replace the Real Gears. The Real Gears are moving well, I haven't seen Meantime and the gorilla game controller since I picked up my own. Signal Flare and Offshoot were hanging around well into 2006. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah the way things went over the summer, I don't think one can objectively call ''any'' of the movie toyline "shelfwarmers" in the truest sense. At least in the case of the actual transforming toys rather than all the tie-in merchandise, nearly every store has had trouble keeping them on the shelves.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 04:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Power-Up is the only RGR who I'd say would qualify as a shelfwarmer. Everyone eles moved and moved well... and I've hit a LOT of stores in a fair few states since the movei-line launch. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Swindle and Bonecrusher in Germany. Seriously. I know I might sound like a broken record, but these fuckers are STILL warming the pegs in half a dozen stores I visited over the past few weeks, and that's more than three months after the two of them first came out. One TRU store even still has TWO ENTIRE SHELVES full of them.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Supreme Cheetor and Alternators Swindle should be added to this page, I think. Also, I don't know if it was only my area that was like this, but the stores in my area were LOADED with Drill Bit and Manterror for years, even after Beast Machines was on the shelves and even after Transquito and BW Scavenger finally vanished. Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart (ESPECIALLY K-Mart), even the GROCERY STORES had these guys flooding the shelves for years. They made it hard to get early Beast Machines toys until the stores finally decided to take them off the shelves. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C.V. Reynolds]] 11:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

:Oh, excuse me. I should tried to make my comment actually make some... sense. Yes, Drill Bit and Manterror were on the shelves all through the remainder of Beast Wars, but they didn't cause as much trouble as I made out. Some of the stores were giving more space to Transformers at the time, after all. It did briefly seem like Drill Bit and Manterror were disappearing at one point, but they returned in full before Beast Machines. I believe that the stores may have wanted to take one more try to clear their inventory of an ending line, and put out their remaining shelfwarmers in hopes they might actually sell. Much like in the case of the Fuzors, clearance failed to work for these guys as well. Still don't know if any other places were flooded with Drill Bit or Manterror, though. [[User:71.243.235.10|71.243.235.10]] 11:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC) It logged me out while I was typing my message for some reason, so I'm re-signing. Sorry about that. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C.V. Reynolds]] 11:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

As a random aside, and possibly an isolated case, but I remember as late as... I dunno, but the first waves of Toy Biz Marvel Heroes were out, there were still reasonable piles of Insecticons at some toy stores in the Atlanta area. (Specifically, at a Lionel Toy World near my childhood home - I found them while looking for the first Toy-Biz Daredevil, shoulda bought 'em). [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 02:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This might be pointless to ask, but can we get some verification on the shelfwarmer/pegwarmer status of some of these toys, especially Transformers Movie Stockade? I can verify as a personal eyewitness that Movie version Payload is a pegwarmer (my local Wal-Mart store has about two or three pegs filled with nothing but Payload). However, I've only seen Stockade from time to time, so he seems to be quite popular in my area. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 02:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Current (April 2009) shelfwarmers... ==

The TRU exclusive Mudflap should probably be mentioned, a shelfwarming redeco of a shelfwarmer. Whose bright idea was this?
Also, is it just my area that seems to have unlimited numbers of original deco Animated Lugnuts? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:35, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

It's July and ROTF is out (obviously). Try buying a Voyager Movie 2 anything that isn't fucking Demolishor. I checked pretty much every toyshop worth looking at in London, and only once managed to find Starscream (or indeed anything that wasn't Demolishor).

That's London as in the largest city in the UK. Yeah. {{unsigned|81.154.60.137|16:24, 15 July 2009}}
:Demolishor certainly seems to be around in greater numbers than most other Voyagers here in San Antonio, but I still see a fair number of Starscreams and Stratospheres, a few Megatrons, and sometimes some Optimus Primes. The Fallen and Mixmaster have also shown up, but haven't been refreshed on the shelves as often, at least at the Wal-Marts and Targets to which I've had time to go.
:The point is, while Demolishor may indeed turn out to be shelfwarmer, your local Voyager availability status alone isn't enough to judge. Your situation is regrettable, but not necessarily representative of the situation anywhere beyond London, or at least whatever falls within your definition of "toyshop[s] worth looking at in London".
:Oh—and please don't forget to sign your talk page posts. Click the signature button (second from the right) above the edit window, or type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 18:19, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

=== as for August 2009... ===

While the fifth wave of Animated STILL haven't reached Poland, there's LOTS AND PLENTY of Jazzes, Oil-Slicks (seriously, who would want this guy...?), Snarls (same here - but Swoops have vanished!) and Soundwaves lying around. Damn, they even started to cut these Deluxes' prices by half in some markets. ...but try buying first wave's Prowl for example. I went on a ''damn shopping crusade'' and in the end I settled for an online shop. And international shopping's is ''really'' expensive. At last I found my Prowl in an obscure toy shop, totally by chance, by the way. I bet it was the last copy around. ''And we're talking 'bout the capital here.'' Ah, the bitter joy of being TF fan while living on the Outer Rim of the galaxy.
-- [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 06:28, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

=== As of March 2010 ===
Big Bad Toy Store claims to be sold out of Battle Unicorns. I just looked. (Darn darn darn darn darn. I want that toy. I smell [[Scalping|scalpers]]). [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 23:09, 15 March 2010 (EDT)

== Japanese movie toys ==

Am i the only one who noticed that they are publishing Japanese movie toys in retail now? I noticed it in Belgium, but i have no idea if the rest of Europe/America has the same trend. If so, could this be considered to be such shelfwarmers that they try to get rid of the Japanese toys in time for the ROTF toy line?(not that i'm complaining...clear windows '76 Bumblebee? battle damage Arcee? count me in!)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:23, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

==Titanium Galvatron==
The major shelfwarmer ever? Titanium Galvatron, he has been lying around in my city for years, and only one store got rid of him, by selling himm at $2. In other stores (just one because the other having him closed and they had like 10 of him) there are about 6 or 7 and there's so little chance of him selling out (has been there for 3 years), that I call the place "Galvatron's lair", and to make matters worse, they STILL have the T.E.C.H. line.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)
:Both Titanium Galvatron and the T.E.C.H line are still there, I guess that sets a new record.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 03:38, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
::Might come as a shocker for most of you, but Galvatron is STILL there, he appeared to be gone, but it seems he never left. Might have to buy the little guy afterall and erect an altar in his honor.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 04:40, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Wow! Just wow. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:13, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mudflap ==

In Northern VA, Mudflap, along with the "Tuner" variant are major shelfwarmers. Is this true in any other places?--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:49, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

He does shelfwarm quite well in France - in my sector, anyway (along with Chromia, Skids and Wheelie...) --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 16:04, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
: All over the place here. Some stores, he's at least 90% of the peg contents. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:14, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
::Around here (NC foothills) both twins, in all size classes, are major shelfwarmers. When will movie makers learn that trying to force a "kid appeal" character never works? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:45, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
:::He's all over the place here, too. TRU is sold out of all their new stock except for a few HFTD Legends and one PCC, but Tuner Mudflap still dominates. Here's a thread on seibertron.com about it: http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/tuner-mudflap-killed-wal-mart-s-transformer-section-p1101154.php--[[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 16:04, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
::::I haven't seen him. But then again, I live in Belgium and the local store is full of ROTF Demolishors anyway. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 16:18, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::You know what, Hasbro should never use the name Mudflap again, is cursed. I went to many stores in Texas, Alabama and Florida and every store had Mudflaps and Tuner Mudflaps, in some cases it was the entire Deluxe pricepoint.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 02:00, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
::::::It's not so much the name that's cursed, as much as it's Hasbro releasing what amounts to practically the same toy twice, within a very short timespan. I know they're going for "recognizability" here but ''GEEZ''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:05, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Plus, it's a crappy toy. It makes the previous [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] toy look great by comparison. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:16, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:I wouldn't say "crappy", but Hasbro could of done better. Btw, one of my local Walmart stores in the northern part of South Carolina had plenty of Tuner Mudflaps. Meanwhile, the one closest to me has Sideways and Dead End clogging up the pegs (maybe they should trade some?). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:29, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

== Verbosing/De-verbosing ==

Hey, Loki? My cleanup actually made the page shorter (''not'' more verbose), and cut out a lot of redundant adjectives. I also shortened or split a bunch of run-on sentences. And, some of the original text simply makes no sense, like "As the fandom became more aware of the concept of shelfwarmers and as Hasbro changed its strategies in selling toys to retailers, documenting what is and isn't a shelfwarmer became more and more acute." How can ''documenting'' be made more "acute"? So, instead of a wholesale revert, could you tell me which specific bits of my edit you had problems with? 'Cause I still think the last part of this page needs serious cleanup. Thanks! [[User:JW|JW]] 15:10, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:Looking at a lot of overuse of contractions, quotation marks, and useless parentheses makes it look much less formal like a 14-year-old wrote it. Besides, filesize is not inversely proportionate to the amount of useful information contained within the article; sure you could make it shorter ''and'' cut out verboseness, but it is possible to have more uneeded words with a shorter page by cutting out useful information in favor of the text in question. Special symbols like quotation marks and parentheses should be used sparingly, opt to learn how to use semicolons effectively and how to word sentences to stress certain words or phrases without quotation marks. As for "How can documenting be made more "acute"?", acute means sharp and so can mean clear like a clear command or sentence, resulting in the sentence meaning "Documenting can be made clearer by presenting more accurate information" without so many words by using the word "acute". Also, don't fuss about your edit being reverted. In this case, I reverted it so while you are making a better cleanup the rest of us don't have to read your not up to par changes in the meantime. Although there are [[User:Detour|some]] [[User:Eire|people]] who are very fussy about ''their pages'' being edited in a way they don't necessarily like, I don't revert edits for reasons like that. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 15:29, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::Loki, I'm the author or co-author of a dozen or so books (available through Amazon; tell your friends!), so I do know my way around grammar. And I'm not making a fuss, I'm beginning a discussion. Third, while "acute" does indeed mean "sharp", "severe", "penetrating", "brief", or "sensitive", it does not mean "clear" or "easy" in normal usage. If you can point to an example elsewhere where it's used that way, I'd be enlightened.
::Regardless, thank you for your reply. If I feel a need to edit this page again, I'll start with a strict trim for length, so we can take things one step at a time. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:44, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::If I should cite where acute can mean clear, then you should cite what books you authored because all I have to go on about your knowledge of grammar is that you play with legos, not that making lego creations at your high caliber is a bad thing but it does make me think that grammar is the least of your worries. At least you can spell the word "grammar" as I see not a whole lot of people can around here. Immediately demanding as to why I edited your edits a minute after I made them does seem like you were making a fuss over it, but at least I am not the type to start a mediocre playground argument. Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to "I did this wonderful thing that automatically makes me smart" sounds like you made it up just to try to impress me, however shamelessly and soullessly advertizing it in the same sentence also makes me give you the benefit of the doubt. But do not worry, another user has already put your edit back on top, not that I agree with his edits either. I am not re-reverting that edit because I do not want to look like those who just revert every single revertation without a written reason like [[User:Khajidha|that person]] to any of the moderators. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 16:00, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::I reverted it because JW had clarified several sentences and reduced the verbosity of the paragraph. Also, I question the validity of the grammatical opinions of a person who uses verbose as a verb (I'm giving JW the benefit of the doubt that his section header is simply playing off of your usage). Not to mention that there is no such word as "revertation", it's reversion. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:08, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::Playing? Moi? Thanks for the positive vote, Khajidha. I was worried I'd lost my touch. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:27, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::[[Furmanism|Just what are you playing at]], JW? Sorry, had to do it :) --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:43, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Hey, my Furmanism days are ''over, '''fin-''''' uh, completed. Um. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:46, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::I did change a few things that I felt were still unclear or clunky. I also removed pipes from links that didn't need them ([[retool]]s instead of [[Retool|retools]]).--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:45, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::''then you should cite what books you authored''
::::The first link on my user page is to a bibliography. My real name is also there, and can be used to search on Amazon. Loki, may I ask a personal question? Your writing is very precise and usually correct, but kinda stilted. Is English not your first langauge? For example, "Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to..." is arguably okay, but would much more often be written as, "Hell, writing an argument that boils down to..." or even, "Hell, you wrote an argument that boils down to..." Further, you used "advertizing", which is a very rare spelling of the word, and you didn't capitalize "Lego". So, I ask, because you intend to be this Wiki's "Grammar Nazi", and I'm curious about your bona fides. Please let me know if I offend.
::::(Also, dude, this is a website about robot toys. Getting condescending because I also "play with legos" {sic} is ''inane.'') [[User:JW|JW]] 16:23, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::It's best not to take someone's user name too seriously. I personally couldn't think of anything better as my real name isn't too good and flashy of a screen name. Sure, I may have made a few mistakes here and there but everyone does. English most definitely is my first language, but I have read many a book by some authors who don't have a very good grasp on it plus a few southern local trends do play a subtle part in my method of speech. Usually I do not police my writing on the internet with as much scrutiny as demonstrated in places like in my personal writing or even writing for an academic assignment where editing myself up to par with my own standards requires contant editing in bursts, as you can probably see in my user contributions. Sometimes my train of thought exceeds the speed that I can type at and some words get lost in the [[void]] and don't get typed down and so look horrible. Besides, most of the edits that live up to my screen name are for punctuation like too many commas or misuse of colons and semicolons, though I do rarely alter the structure of a sentence so it sounds ''right'', whatever that may mean to any one person. Overall, you seem more like the kind of person I could get along with... grammatically, of course. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 17:15, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::Lord knows I can be obsessive about commas, too. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:52, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

== Animated shelfwarmers ==

[[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]] and [[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]], anyone? All of the Toys R Us locations I've been to recently (in Canada and the USA) are packed with these guys. While Walmart and Target have gotten rid of Animated products to make room for 2010 and Generations, Toys R Us has the new lines while leaving Snarl and Oil Slick to lie around. Plus, someone above me mentioned them. There were also 11 (I counted) Atomic Lugnuts, but I don't think he's shelfwarming nearly as bad as the other two. Do they deserve a mention in the article? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:36, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
:Around here Snarl is clogging shelves but Oil Slick sells about as well as any other animated figure. The squadrons of Lugnuts (both decos) eventually disappeared after several months. Animated Ratchet is possibly the biggest shelfwarmer at my local TRU. Arcee, Rodimus, even Ironhide disappear instantly, this guy stays and stays. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:04, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
::At my TRU it's the same, with a lone Electrostatic Soundwave as the only non-Cybertronian Ratchet hold out.--[[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 21:16, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Animated is pretty much all sold out where I am. Even the single, solitary Lugnut that had been hanging around for months is gone. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:12, 15 October 2010 (EDT)

== The Retail Cross Reference Conundrum ==

Something I'm not immediately seeing described in brief Google searches or here in this wiki is what I've taken to calling the "Cross Reference Conundrum" and that's when retail cross references (the store's computer system treating different toys of the same class and price as if they were the same item for stocking purposes) forces the unpopular toys to stick around taking up space and filling the store's count and end up blocking the popular ones from either shipping or, in the case of less-than-mindful employees, being stocked despite boxes sitting in the backroom. I work at a retail store that sells Transformers and since a single space can be dedicated to a great many toys from the same size class/price point, the store's quota is filled because it has all it "needs", even if the majority (or heck, even every last one) is some lousy repaint nobody wants to buy. Sure enough, when the space finally does sell down at whatever pathetic pace and the popular ones are restocked, they sell out in no time. I've seen some popular Voyager Class toys sell in mere hours after they were stocked into space previously occupied by other Voyagers that took a few weeks to sell. I swear, the existence of cross references and its unintended survival-of-the-least-popular side effect likely reduces some sales to a fraction of what they would be, and I'm amazed retailers and toy manufacturers like Hasbro tolerate this. (Or am I mistaken and do sales, whether fast or slow always somehow equalize in the end?)

Anyone else note this phenomenon in the world of transformers, or even toys in general? I'm not certain what search terms would bring up discussions about it, but I've even had employees at other, unrelated stores tell me "If we get it, it will appear here, but until these sell down we won't be receiving anymore." or words to that effect. Any on-line references could justify a mention in this article, but without such refs, I'd just be ranting with such an inclusion.

Thanks, {{unsigned|4.254.80.136}}
: That makes a lot of sense, and if we can get a little corroboration would be a valuable contribution to the article. [[User:JW|JW]] 10:14, 6 December 2010 (EST)
::I spoke to a Hasbro rep who was in my local Walmart a few months ago about this. According to her, Walmart uses the system described above where as long as there is product on the shelf new orders won't be made even if all 49 figures are Tuner Mudflaps. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:24, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, that sounds exactly right. Everything is done by item count, and if every Deluxe Transformer whether Generations, HFTD, ROTF, or RTS, is scanned as TRANS DLX FIG then as long as there are an adequate number of TRANS DLX FIG on the shelf, there's no need to put more out. (This also leads to cases where ostensibly JUST Hunt for the Decepticons Deluxes are on sale, but all Deluxes ring up at the sale price.) We just need this clarified and explained by a reliable and citable reference. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 10:48, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::Yeah, I knew my conversation wouldn't be a reliable source, just confirming that the general idea is correct and should be explored. I also think that the different main lines are inventoried seperately, meaning that Generations would get reordered even if HFTD was still clogging shelves. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:56, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Having worked in one of the aforementioned toy departments, I can confirm that Khajidha's information from the Hasbro rep is correct. I believe Khajidha's right about main lines being inventoried separately as well. I left toys before Universe 2003 started so I don't know for sure how concurrent lines are being handled, but I do know that RID, Armada, and Energon were not cross-referenced with each other. Have to wonder who would be a reliable and citable source that would also be willing to verify our information in a reliable and citable way? I don't see Wal-Mart wanting to verify this at such a level. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:10, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::::This sucks. Those Tuner Mudflaps are gonna limit the deluxe stock of Transformers for YEARS! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 17:36, 7 December 2010 (EST)

== UK Entertainer shelfwarmers as of June 2011 ==

Seems that ROTF Mixmaster is still at Entertainer stores across the West Midlands of the UK (possibly nationwide) in bloody fleets. There must've been a massive glut of the middle waves of ROTF because skids, mudflap and chromia did the same and it meant Generations and RTS never made it onto their shelves. HFTD never made it past wave 1. What's truly sad is a recent fleet of those first movie ''unleashed'' Megatron statues have suddenly arrived and nobody gives a toss. Animated Shockwaves and Skywarps did the same last year but those were desireable. They're still trying to clear out the Bumblebee voice changers as well. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 11:52, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

Megatron (SG)

2011-06-11T05:23:36Z

Durge: /* Timelines */

{{factions|sgDecepticon}}
{{disambig3.5|the heroic Decepticon leader|his evil counterpart|Megatron (G1)|Megatron}}
{{disambig3.5|the Thirteen-resurrected version of Megatron|the Unicron-resurrected version of Megatron|Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron}}
:''Megatron is the [[Decepticon leader|nice leader]] of the heroic [[Decepticon]]s in the "[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" [[continuity family]]. After being resurrected and reformatted by [[Nexus Prime]], he is known as '''Galvatron'''.''
[[Image:Megatronshatteredglassprofile.jpg|right|300px|thumb|In the mirrorverse, math isn't evil.]]
'''Megatron''' was a young mathematician who lectured at a university on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. However, he noticed a disturbing trend in the numbers: civil war was certain! His colleagues just called him crazy and laughed it off, but when the maniacal [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] and his evil army of [[Autobot]]s took over Cybertron, Megatron had been waiting in the underground, forming a resistance movement to take back Cybertron and keep the Autobots from conquering the universe and plundering it, as they had done to Cybertron.

When an attempted coup by [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] resulted in [[Cyclonus (SG)|one of his trusted soldiers]] assassinating him, Megatron was resurrected by [[Nexus Prime]] into an even more powerful form known as '''Galvatron'''. Fueled by both the power of [[Thirteen original Transformers|the 13]] and a vision of a healed, peaceful Cybertron granted to him in the [[Allspark]], he is now an even more determined and powerful adversary to the evil Autobots, though the betrayal he suffered sometimes still haunts him.

In both forms, he can wield the mighty [[Rumbler (SG)|Rumbler]] tank, his weapon of choice.

{{quote|Your tyranny ends here, Prime! Cybertronians will once again know the freedom which is their right!|Megatron|"[[Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Shattered Glass===
[[Image:Shatteredglassmegatrondecepticons.jpg|left|250px|thumb|See? So friendly.]]
There were those who opposed the tyranny of Optimus Prime's merciless Autobots, but they were scattered. But there would come a leader, and Megatron emerged from the city of [[Polyhex]] to unite them. After retaking some of Cybertron, Megatron pushed the odds in his favor by inventing the art of [[transformation]] and renaming his forces "Decepticons." However, Optimus Prime was able to duplicate this technology, and intended to use it to conquer other worlds.

As Optimus Prime built his ''[[Ark (SG)|Ark]]'' for this purpose, Megatron and his inner circle planned to derail Prime's attempts at expansion. During a critical moment, the body of what appeared to be one of Optimus Prime's former lieutenants, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], was discovered by them and brought into their Polyhex stronghold. It was discovered that Cliffjumper had traveled from another universe which mirrored their own. After some misgivings, Cliffjumper agreed to aid them in their assault on the ''Ark'' and lent the technology from his [[glass gas]] towards the cause. On the battlefield, Prime was enraged that Cliffjumper had double-crossed him, and Megatron took the shot that was meant for the strange traveler. Cliffjumper was finally convinced of where he stood and backed Megatron whole-heartedly, and after destroying the ''Ark'' and its launching platform, Megatron critically wounded Prime and called his forces into retreat. {{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}}

Sometime later, Megatron led the defense of the [[Arch-Ayr]] fuel dump that the [[Decepticon]]s had recently rediscovered. He ended up being injured enough to be taken out of the fight, and [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]] fussed over and helped repair him. As the situation started looking dire, Megatron considered destroying the fuel dump to keep it out of Autobot hands. Fortunately, [[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] called in the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad]] right at that moment. Megatron was impressed at the squad's skill in beating back the Autobots, but a bit put off by their... enthusiasm.

When the [[Dinobot (SG)|Dinobot]]s' appearance further disrupted the fight and sent the Autobots packing back to [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]], the Decepticons discussed the now running-loose Dinobots. Megatron agreed with [[Dirge (SG)|Dirge]]'s suggestion that they attempt to capture some of them to bolster their own forces. He ordered Starscream to gather a small force of their best mechs and have them commence the "Dinobot Hunt". {{storylink|Dungeons & Dinobots}}

A short time before the launch of the Autobots' ''Ark'', Megatron flew out to the [[Temple of Knowledge]], believing he had been summoned by [[Boltax (SG)|Boltax]]. Instead, it was [[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]] who had lured Megatron into a trap. Ricochet and [[Nightstick (SG)|Nightstick]] subdued the Decepticon leader. The Autobot [[Targetmaster]]s hung Megatron over a pit lined with deathtraps and broadcast a ransom to the Decepticons. Ricochet believed that the Decepticons would not follow the ''Ark'' into space without Megatron. However, the Decepticons chose to send a small force to rescue him while continuing the preparations for departure. Optimus Prime also arrived, angry with Ricochet's plan. The Decepticon Micromasters distracted the Autobots, allowing Megatron to escape his prison. Megatron snatched up Ricochet's weapon, Nightstick, but Nightstick took control of Megatron's arm. Optimus took advantage of the situation, grabbing Megatron's own weapon [[Rumbler (SG)|Rumbler]] and charging at Megatron. Megatron turned, though, and Rumbler's sword severed Megatron's wrist, allowing him to regain control of his arm. Rumbler returned to Megatron's side and the Autobots retreated. {{storylink|Do Over}}
[[Image:SGCyclonus Reunification4.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Cyclonus is a traitor? Yeah, whatever, maybe in OPPOSITE LAND.]]
When [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], and [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] arrived at the Decepticons' base to ask after [[Heatwave]], Megatron welcomed them in, with the proviso that they explain why they were looking for Heatwave and being chased by [[Computron (SG)|Computron]]. After Landquake finished said explanation, Megatron sent [[Cyclonus (SG)|Cyclonus]] to fetch Heatwave. As they waited, he told Aquarius that he looked forward to an alliance between the Decepticons and [[Quintesson]]s. Once Heatwave arrived, Megatron told their visitors that he hoped his "skilled soldier" could answer their questions.

Unfortunately, further discussion was cut short when Megatron was shocked and caught off-guard by Cyclonus opening fire on him, in an assassination plot masterminded by Alpha Trion. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 4}} The traitor Cyclonus was escorted away, but it was too late: Megatron was dead. However, Breakaway believed they could return Megatron to life if the four travelers and Heatwave put their hands on Megatron's body. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}}
[[Image:NexusPrimeRevivesGalvatron TheComingStorm1.jpg|left|250px|thumb|]]
They were successful, as the gestalt members' ministrations resulted in both them being reborn as [[Nexus Prime]], and Megatron being resurrected as Galvatron. The two went out to face down [[Omega Doom]], who had arrived outside of the Decepticon base.

When Nexus Prime went into space to deal with a deadly missile Omega Doom launched towards the sun during the fight, Galvatron stayed behind and led his Decepticons in a defense against the behemoth. Omega Doom was able to defeat all of his attackers and damage Galvatron, but by that time Nexus Prime had finished dealing with the missile, and laid the smackdown on Omega Doom.

As he later received repairs from [[Mixmaster (SG)|Mixmaster]] and [[Scavenger (SG)|Scavenger]], Galvatron told Nexus Prime he respected the gestalt's choice to leave, and gave him use of the [[Stellar Spanner]] they had retrieved from Alpha Trion's laboratory. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}}
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==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[Image:ShatteredGlasstoy-Megatron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Apparently, he carries around a mini [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]] on his arm.]]
*'''Megatron & Rodimus''' (Convention Souvenir 3-Pack, 2008)
**''Accessories'': "Rumbler" Tank-cannon, missile, sword-blade

:Megatron is a [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of Ultra-class ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], with a more heroic color scheme and a new head mold based on an early character model for ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (see below). He comes with [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and [[Divebomb (SG)|Divebomb]] as a bagged set, limited to 1100 pieces.

:Megatron transforms into a silver and black Cybertronic jet with red accents and blue translucents. Included is the "[[Rumbler (SG)|Rumbler]]" tank (which is originally a representation of ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' Megatron's tank form, and a sort-of homage of [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]]), which can plug onto the top of the vehicle mode and can also fire missiles out of its spring-loaded main gun (presumably meant to be a [[fusion cannon]]). [[Super Mode|Hyper Mode]] can be activated by tugging his transparent wing tips outward, which extends the blue sections, raises the upper gray parts of his wings in an "X-wing" configuration, and deploys the red weapons underneath. In robot mode, Rumbler can be attached to either of his arms as a cannon, or it can be flipped around and have a sword attached to the rear of its turret. Like most convention exclusives, the electronics from this accessory have been stripped out to keep costs down.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/BCMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Megatron at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:SGtoy-Galvatron.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Bwah! Free candy and ponies for all Earth children! Bwah!]]
*'''Galvatron & Thundercracker''' (Convention souvenir 2-pack, 2011)
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles, rotor blade, Cyber Planet Key

: Galvatron is a redeco of ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]], and transforms into a gray and purple Eurocopter Dauphin rescue helicopter. His rotor blades spin using a geared push-button, which becomes a spinning-blade weapon mounted on his robot mode's left arm. He has an [[Retractable string gimmick|adjustable tow-hook on a string]], which retracts with the push of a button: this gimmick ends up on his right robot-mode arm. Inserting a [[Cyber Key]] into his back end (backpack in robot mode) swings around a pair of spring-loaded [[missile]] launchers which double as the helicopter's engine exhausts when not deployed (or loaded with missiles, for that matter).

: Galvatron came with ''Shattered Glass'' [[Thundercracker (SG)|Thundercracker]] and both were limited to 1800 pieces. Galvatron's toy was also used for [[Universe (2008 franchise)|''Universe'']] [[Blades (G1)#Universe (2008)|Autobot Blades]], and [[Springer (G1)#Universe (2008)|Springer]].

: Because of the glorious nature of 5mm posts, Galvatron is capable of attaching the tank included with his previous toy to his arm for additional firepower.
{{-}}

==Notes==
[[Image:Earlymegatron.jpg|thumb|right|300px|It's tough to homage anything older.]]
*Megatron's head design is based on the early [[Megatron (G1)|Generation 1 Megatron]] [[character model]] seen in the first Transformers [[commercial]], early issues of the Marvel Comics, and Megatron's Marvel ''Transformers Universe'' profile. Likewise, the helmet colors are derived from the Marvel Comics as well, featuring a black helmet on a silver face. The head was designed by [[Dan Khanna]].
* The [[Fun Publications]] photography incorrectly shows the Rodimus/Megatron set as having come with [[Rampage (SG)|Rampage]] instead of Divebomb.
* Megatron using math to predict future trends is based on [[wikipedia:psychohistory (fictional)|psychohistory]] from [[wikipedia:Isaac Asimov|Isaac Asimov]]'s [[wikipedia:Foundation series|Foundation series]] of novels,<ref>http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=70915#70915</ref> but if we wanted to be cynical about it, we'd probably point out that it's more likely inspired by its then-recent importance in [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]]'s ''Fantastic Four'' ''Civil War'' crossover.
[[Image:Galvatronsgcustom.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Speak softly and carry a big <s>stick</s> tank.]]
* His Galvatron form is based on ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]], but with [[Galvatron (G1)|''Generation 1'' Galvatron]]'s color scheme. The idea was inspired by a customized toy (right) by Fun Publications' [[Jesse Wittenrich]], who painted a Galvatron using the ''[[War Within (toyline)|War Within]]'' [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] he didn't want. He'll be happy to tell you that [[Rumbler (SG)|Rumbler]] can still attach to Galvatron's right arm via the pegs there.
* Galvatron's creation is tied to [[Primus]], mirroring ''Generation 1'' Galvatron's [[Unicron]] origin.
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==References==
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[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Decepticon leaders]]
[[Category:Multi-component Transformers]]
[[Category:Scientists]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass Decepticons]]

Megatron (SG)

2011-06-11T05:22:08Z

Durge: /* Timelines */

{{factions|sgDecepticon}}
{{disambig3.5|the heroic Decepticon leader|his evil counterpart|Megatron (G1)|Megatron}}
{{disambig3.5|the Thirteen-resurrected version of Megatron|the Unicron-resurrected version of Megatron|Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron}}
:''Megatron is the [[Decepticon leader|nice leader]] of the heroic [[Decepticon]]s in the "[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" [[continuity family]]. After being resurrected and reformatted by [[Nexus Prime]], he is known as '''Galvatron'''.''
[[Image:Megatronshatteredglassprofile.jpg|right|300px|thumb|In the mirrorverse, math isn't evil.]]
'''Megatron''' was a young mathematician who lectured at a university on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. However, he noticed a disturbing trend in the numbers: civil war was certain! His colleagues just called him crazy and laughed it off, but when the maniacal [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] and his evil army of [[Autobot]]s took over Cybertron, Megatron had been waiting in the underground, forming a resistance movement to take back Cybertron and keep the Autobots from conquering the universe and plundering it, as they had done to Cybertron.

When an attempted coup by [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] resulted in [[Cyclonus (SG)|one of his trusted soldiers]] assassinating him, Megatron was resurrected by [[Nexus Prime]] into an even more powerful form known as '''Galvatron'''. Fueled by both the power of [[Thirteen original Transformers|the 13]] and a vision of a healed, peaceful Cybertron granted to him in the [[Allspark]], he is now an even more determined and powerful adversary to the evil Autobots, though the betrayal he suffered sometimes still haunts him.

In both forms, he can wield the mighty [[Rumbler (SG)|Rumbler]] tank, his weapon of choice.

{{quote|Your tyranny ends here, Prime! Cybertronians will once again know the freedom which is their right!|Megatron|"[[Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Shattered Glass===
[[Image:Shatteredglassmegatrondecepticons.jpg|left|250px|thumb|See? So friendly.]]
There were those who opposed the tyranny of Optimus Prime's merciless Autobots, but they were scattered. But there would come a leader, and Megatron emerged from the city of [[Polyhex]] to unite them. After retaking some of Cybertron, Megatron pushed the odds in his favor by inventing the art of [[transformation]] and renaming his forces "Decepticons." However, Optimus Prime was able to duplicate this technology, and intended to use it to conquer other worlds.

As Optimus Prime built his ''[[Ark (SG)|Ark]]'' for this purpose, Megatron and his inner circle planned to derail Prime's attempts at expansion. During a critical moment, the body of what appeared to be one of Optimus Prime's former lieutenants, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], was discovered by them and brought into their Polyhex stronghold. It was discovered that Cliffjumper had traveled from another universe which mirrored their own. After some misgivings, Cliffjumper agreed to aid them in their assault on the ''Ark'' and lent the technology from his [[glass gas]] towards the cause. On the battlefield, Prime was enraged that Cliffjumper had double-crossed him, and Megatron took the shot that was meant for the strange traveler. Cliffjumper was finally convinced of where he stood and backed Megatron whole-heartedly, and after destroying the ''Ark'' and its launching platform, Megatron critically wounded Prime and called his forces into retreat. {{storylink|Shattered Glass (issue)|Shattered Glass}}

Sometime later, Megatron led the defense of the [[Arch-Ayr]] fuel dump that the [[Decepticon]]s had recently rediscovered. He ended up being injured enough to be taken out of the fight, and [[Starscream (SG)|Starscream]] fussed over and helped repair him. As the situation started looking dire, Megatron considered destroying the fuel dump to keep it out of Autobot hands. Fortunately, [[Soundwave (SG)|Soundwave]] called in the [[Mayhem Suppression Squad]] right at that moment. Megatron was impressed at the squad's skill in beating back the Autobots, but a bit put off by their... enthusiasm.

When the [[Dinobot (SG)|Dinobot]]s' appearance further disrupted the fight and sent the Autobots packing back to [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]], the Decepticons discussed the now running-loose Dinobots. Megatron agreed with [[Dirge (SG)|Dirge]]'s suggestion that they attempt to capture some of them to bolster their own forces. He ordered Starscream to gather a small force of their best mechs and have them commence the "Dinobot Hunt". {{storylink|Dungeons & Dinobots}}

A short time before the launch of the Autobots' ''Ark'', Megatron flew out to the [[Temple of Knowledge]], believing he had been summoned by [[Boltax (SG)|Boltax]]. Instead, it was [[Ricochet (SG)|Ricochet]] who had lured Megatron into a trap. Ricochet and [[Nightstick (SG)|Nightstick]] subdued the Decepticon leader. The Autobot [[Targetmaster]]s hung Megatron over a pit lined with deathtraps and broadcast a ransom to the Decepticons. Ricochet believed that the Decepticons would not follow the ''Ark'' into space without Megatron. However, the Decepticons chose to send a small force to rescue him while continuing the preparations for departure. Optimus Prime also arrived, angry with Ricochet's plan. The Decepticon Micromasters distracted the Autobots, allowing Megatron to escape his prison. Megatron snatched up Ricochet's weapon, Nightstick, but Nightstick took control of Megatron's arm. Optimus took advantage of the situation, grabbing Megatron's own weapon [[Rumbler (SG)|Rumbler]] and charging at Megatron. Megatron turned, though, and Rumbler's sword severed Megatron's wrist, allowing him to regain control of his arm. Rumbler returned to Megatron's side and the Autobots retreated. {{storylink|Do Over}}
[[Image:SGCyclonus Reunification4.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Cyclonus is a traitor? Yeah, whatever, maybe in OPPOSITE LAND.]]
When [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], and [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] arrived at the Decepticons' base to ask after [[Heatwave]], Megatron welcomed them in, with the proviso that they explain why they were looking for Heatwave and being chased by [[Computron (SG)|Computron]]. After Landquake finished said explanation, Megatron sent [[Cyclonus (SG)|Cyclonus]] to fetch Heatwave. As they waited, he told Aquarius that he looked forward to an alliance between the Decepticons and [[Quintesson]]s. Once Heatwave arrived, Megatron told their visitors that he hoped his "skilled soldier" could answer their questions.

Unfortunately, further discussion was cut short when Megatron was shocked and caught off-guard by Cyclonus opening fire on him, in an assassination plot masterminded by Alpha Trion. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 4}} The traitor Cyclonus was escorted away, but it was too late: Megatron was dead. However, Breakaway believed they could return Megatron to life if the four travelers and Heatwave put their hands on Megatron's body. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}}
[[Image:NexusPrimeRevivesGalvatron TheComingStorm1.jpg|left|250px|thumb|]]
They were successful, as the gestalt members' ministrations resulted in both them being reborn as [[Nexus Prime]], and Megatron being resurrected as Galvatron. The two went out to face down [[Omega Doom]], who had arrived outside of the Decepticon base.

When Nexus Prime went into space to deal with a deadly missile Omega Doom launched towards the sun during the fight, Galvatron stayed behind and led his Decepticons in a defense against the behemoth. Omega Doom was able to defeat all of his attackers and damage Galvatron, but by that time Nexus Prime had finished dealing with the missile, and laid the smackdown on Omega Doom.

As he later received repairs from [[Mixmaster (SG)|Mixmaster]] and [[Scavenger (SG)|Scavenger]], Galvatron told Nexus Prime he respected the gestalt's choice to leave, and gave him use of the [[Stellar Spanner]] they had retrieved from Alpha Trion's laboratory. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Timelines===
[[Image:ShatteredGlasstoy-Megatron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Apparently, he carries around a mini [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]] on his arm.]]
*'''Megatron & Rodimus''' (Convention Souvenir 3-Pack, 2008)
**''Accessories'': "Rumbler" Tank-cannon, missile, sword-blade

:Megatron is a [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of Ultra-class ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], with a more heroic color scheme and a new head mold based on an early character model for ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (see below). He comes with [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and [[Divebomb (SG)|Divebomb]] as a bagged set, limited to 1100 pieces.

:Megatron transforms into a silver and black Cybertronic jet with red accents and blue translucents. Included is the "[[Rumbler (SG)|Rumbler]]" tank (which is originally a representation of ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' Megatron's tank form, and a sort-of homage of [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]]), which can plug onto the top of the vehicle mode and can also fire missiles out of its spring-loaded main gun (presumably meant to be a [[fusion cannon]]). [[Super Mode|Hyper Mode]] can be activated by tugging his transparent wing tips outward, which extends the blue sections, raises the upper gray parts of his wings in an "X-wing" configuration, and deploys the red weapons underneath. In robot mode, Rumbler can be attached to either of his arms as a cannon, or it can be flipped around and have a sword attached to the rear of its turret. Like most convention exclusives, the electronics from this accessory have been stripped out to keep costs down.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/BCMegatron/megatron.htm More information on Megatron at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:SGtoy-Galvatron.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Bwah! Free candy and ponies for all Earth children! Bwah!]]
*'''Galvatron & Thundercracker''' (Convention souvenir 2-pack, 2011)
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles, rotor blade, Cyber Planet Key

: Galvatron is a redeco of ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]], and transforms into a gray and purple Eurocopter Dauphin rescue helicopter. His rotor blades spin using a geared push-button, which becomes a spinning-blade weapon mounted on his robot mode's left arm. He has an [[Retractable string gimmick|adjustable tow-hook on a string]], which retracts with the push of a button: this gimmick ends up on his right robot-mode arm. Inserting a [[Cyber Key]] into his back end (backpack in robot mode) swings around a pair of spring-loaded [[missile]] launchers which double as the helicopter's engine exhausts when not deployed (or loaded with missiles, for that matter).

: Galvatron came with ''Shattered Glass'' [[Thundercracker (SG)|Thundercracker]] and both were limited to 1800 pieces. Galvatron's toy was also used for [[Universe (2008 franchise)|''Universe'']] [[Blades (G1)#Universe (2008)|Autobot Blades]], and [[Springer (G1)#Universe (2008)|Springer]].
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: Because of the glorious nature of 5mm posts, Galvatron is capable of attaching the tank included with his previous toy to his arm for additional firepower.

==Notes==
[[Image:Earlymegatron.jpg|thumb|right|300px|It's tough to homage anything older.]]
*Megatron's head design is based on the early [[Megatron (G1)|Generation 1 Megatron]] [[character model]] seen in the first Transformers [[commercial]], early issues of the Marvel Comics, and Megatron's Marvel ''Transformers Universe'' profile. Likewise, the helmet colors are derived from the Marvel Comics as well, featuring a black helmet on a silver face. The head was designed by [[Dan Khanna]].
* The [[Fun Publications]] photography incorrectly shows the Rodimus/Megatron set as having come with [[Rampage (SG)|Rampage]] instead of Divebomb.
* Megatron using math to predict future trends is based on [[wikipedia:psychohistory (fictional)|psychohistory]] from [[wikipedia:Isaac Asimov|Isaac Asimov]]'s [[wikipedia:Foundation series|Foundation series]] of novels,<ref>http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=70915#70915</ref> but if we wanted to be cynical about it, we'd probably point out that it's more likely inspired by its then-recent importance in [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]]'s ''Fantastic Four'' ''Civil War'' crossover.
[[Image:Galvatronsgcustom.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Speak softly and carry a big <s>stick</s> tank.]]
* His Galvatron form is based on ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]], but with [[Galvatron (G1)|''Generation 1'' Galvatron]]'s color scheme. The idea was inspired by a customized toy (right) by Fun Publications' [[Jesse Wittenrich]], who painted a Galvatron using the ''[[War Within (toyline)|War Within]]'' [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] he didn't want. He'll be happy to tell you that [[Rumbler (SG)|Rumbler]] can still attach to Galvatron's right arm via the pegs there.
* Galvatron's creation is tied to [[Primus]], mirroring ''Generation 1'' Galvatron's [[Unicron]] origin.
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==References==
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[[Category:Convention exclusives]]
[[Category:Decepticon leaders]]
[[Category:Multi-component Transformers]]
[[Category:Scientists]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass Decepticons]]

Talk:The many deaths of Optimus Prime

2011-05-18T12:30:59Z

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==Games?==
I'm just asking, should the [[Movie]] games be counted? [[User:76.169.169.60|76.169.169.60]] 05:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
:I would vote against. Those are more a statement about how games work than about Optimus Prime. [[User:JW|JW]] 12:21, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
So, the [[Transformers The Game]]'s Decepticon campaign doesn't count? Thanks for the reply, though. [[User:76.169.169.60|76.169.169.60]] 00:49, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
:Please indent your replies.
:And, yes, that would be my vote. It's the nature of a game, where one can play both sides, that the guys on the other side are gonna die. It's not intrinsically relevant to the "Optimus dies" trope. [[User:JW|JW]] 01:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

==Megatron's deaths==
I've been wondering, since we've got this article out, should we make one on the deaths and resurrections of Megatron? Let's face it: Old Buckethead's been offed a few times in career as well, often for the same reasons (except maybe the Christ one). Should we document those as well? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'm open to a "The many deaths of Megatron" article, sure. I can think of three or four without trying too hard. [[User:JW|JW]] 21:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::This subject could almost have it's own category, "The Many Deaths of BLANK." Also, why is Optimus Primal included on this page? He's not Optimus Prime. What do people think of him getting his own "The Many Deaths of..." article?--[[User:Suzyprime|Suzyprime]] 23:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I'd much prefer Optimus Primal stay here. He's an Optimus, and was the leading character in his show, so I think he best fits here.
:::As for "The many deaths of BLANK", the thing about Optimus Prime is that a half-dozen ''different'' Optimuses have ''all'' died. Similarly for a handful of Megatrons. But, in the case of (say) Dirge, there's only one Dirge who died a buncha times, so we can cover that on his page. Similarly, the only Jazz who died is the one from the 2007 movie. Optimus and Megs are the only ''major'' cross-continuity characters who have a tradition of dying. (That I can think of.) [[User:JW|JW]] 00:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
::::Does Unicron count?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 02:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:Based on how I understand it, I would say no, since Unicron is just one single entity who travels across the multiverse. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::What about Starscream? He died in G1 and was exorcised from several hosts, and the Unicron Trilogy Starscream died at least twice, didn't he? - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 06:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Maybe we should have a segment at the end like this-
While Optimus Prime is not the only one to die and be reborn like this, he has done so by far the most. Other characters who have done this somewhat regularly are Megatron (list of Deaths and Rebirths), Dirge (list of deaths), Starscream (list of deaths and rebirths).[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 12:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

==Death Of Ginrai==
Now I know he isn't actually Optimus Prime, and only a [s]Pretender[/s] wannabe, but looking at the episode descriptions for Victory, it looks like God Ginrai goes through the exact same process as every other Prime like character, dying then coming back, with a new [s]toy[/s] body, the only difference here being his new body is not very Prime like at all, and he doesn't seem to be the real leader at this point. We have Primal here, so surely we can squeeze in Ginrai's Death too?
[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 12:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:Nop, he is Jinrai not Optimus Prime. Though the darn RTM dub names him Optimus Prime. --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 12:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
:: Not even if we state he is not actually Optimus Prime to avoid confusion? Say...
:::While he is not an actual Optimus Prime, God Ginrai, a "GodMaster" who looks like Optimus Prime (his toy was PowerMaster Optimus Prime) also goes through a similar Death and Rebirth in the Japan Only series of Transformers Victory. His Reborn form looks [[Victory_Leo|nothing]] like Optimus Prime though.[[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 13:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

== crocodile ==

Do we mention the time when Optimus was changed into a crocodile?
:[[Alligatorcon|Alligator]]. And I'd say no, because he wasn't dead. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

== SG Megatron ==

Should we mention him? (Seeing as he's pretty likely to be dead right now.) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 15:09, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

:The page name is ''The many deaths of '''Optimus Prime'''''. Um. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 03:07, 21 September 2009 (EDT)

:True but SG Megs' death is a reference to the fact that the leader of the good guys dies often. Hence why SG Optimus hasn't died (and been reborn) yet- because its the job of this universe's megs. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 08:27, 18 May 2011 (EDT)

== AHM ==

My memory of AHM is hazy but Optimus is pretty close to death for the first few issues right? He might not actually be dead but I noticed his ''death'' in Escalation was mentioned and seeing as how he doesn't actually die there either I took the liberty of adding AHM in. If the higher ups disagree could I at least get an explanation before it gets erased please. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 08:30, 18 May 2011 (EDT)

Talk:The many deaths of Optimus Prime

2011-05-18T12:27:58Z

Durge: /* SG Megatron */

The many deaths of Optimus Prime

2011-05-18T12:25:20Z

Durge: /* IDW Comics continuity */

[[Image:Afterdeath-gameoverman.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Oh, he's gone and died again. Botheration! Most inconvenient.]]
Across the various continuities, '''Optimus Prime dies a lot.''' This happens for various reasons:

* It allows for him to be replaced by [[Hot Rod (G1)|a new character]] (and thus [[To sell toys|a new toy]]).
* It allows for him to come back from the dead in a new body (again, a new toy).
* It's dramatic (in theory).
* It makes him into something of a [[Jesus|Christ]]-figure.
* It allows for numerous [[Optimus Prime memorials|memorials]] to be constructed in his honor (though they're some times built even ''before'' he dies, morbidly enough).

Nearly every continuity family has featured Prime dying at least once; the only exceptions are the Optimus Primes from ''[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' (though [[The Final Battle (RID)|only just]]), ''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' (so far).

Some examples:

==Generation 1 cartoon continuity==
===''Generation 1 cartoon''===
[[Image:Wardawn_orion_dies.jpg|right|210px|thumb|Dying before he's even Optimus Prime (he's that good).]]

* Orion Pax died (or was at least severely damaged by Megatron) and had to be rebuilt into Optimus Prime by [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]]. It's possible that if Orion had not been repaired, Optimus Prime would have ceased to exist. Pax's girlfriend Ariel was also heavily damaged, and rebuilt into [[Elita One]]. They were with their friend [[Dion]] when they were attacked by Megatron, although it is unknown if he was likewise rebuilt.

===''The Transformers: The Movie''===
[[Image:TFTM dead gray Prime.jpg|left|180px|thumb|[[:wikipedia:Oscar Wilde#Release and death|"Either that wallpaper goes, or I do."]]]]
* The best-known example is from ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', in which [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] dies of wounds from his battle with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. Famously, his body turns gray as he dies. ([[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers|Urban legend]] says his body also ''crumbles,'' but no such footage is known to exist.) Being the first time he died, it was actually unexpected.
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===''Kiss Players''===
*Sometime between [[The Transformers: The Movie|2005]] and [[The Transformers (cartoon)|2010]], [[Marissa Faireborn]] revives Optimus using the Galvatron cells in her body. Ultimately, all the cells are put back into Galvatron, and without them, Optimus promptly dies again.

===Season 3===
[[Image:Optimusg1zombie.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Mind if I smoke?"]]
* He returns from the dead twice; first as a zombie under [[Quintesson]] control in "[[Dark Awakening]]" as part of a plan to destroy the Autobots, only to die again when he overcomes the Quintesson control through the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] and possibly the strength of his will, and sacrifices himself to save the Autobots.

* He then was brought to life again in "[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1]]".
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===''The Headmasters''===
[[Image:Headmasters-primedies.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"...I'm dead." "YES, you are!" "You think that's funny, Jennings?!"]]

* In ''[[The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]'', Prime's death in ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was sort-of recreated in a flashback montage at the beginning of "[[Four Warriors Come out of the Sky]]", but not really. Rather than die while taking down his ultimate nemesis in a one-on-one struggle to the death to defend his city, his comrades, the planet Earth, and freedom itself, he just kind of gets randomly shot while in the middle of an ordinary battle outside of [[Ark (G1)|Autobot Headquarters]], and turns gray. Nobody else seems to notice this. It's not clear that Prime himself notices it. It's about the most half-hearted death ever.

* Optimus Prime later died again—in another act of self sacrifice, of course—when he walked into [[Vector Sigma]] and tried to bring it back under control directly in "[[Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime]]". His body turned gray as he died, followed by a (likely only symbolic) scene of him telling [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] that it would be his responsibility to keep leading the Autobots and to continue his work, seen as a transparent, light-haloed figure against the sky and heard in third person narration as Rodimus stared into the sky. (Then again, given the [[Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime|proven]] existence of [[Starscream (G1)|gho]][[Alpha Trion (G1)|sts]]...)
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===''Return of Convoy''===
*The [[Battlestars]] managed to restore Optimus's life with the power of the [[Zodiac]], evolving him into Star Convoy in ''[[The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars]]''.

===''Generation 2''===
* In the Japanese version of ''Generation 2'', Optimus Prime was badly wounded by Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] and almost died, but was resurrected and evolved yet again, this time into [[Laser Rod]] Optimus Prime, by the power of the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]]. {{storylink|G-2 (pack-in comic)|G-2 #13}}

==Marvel Comics continuity==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Pmoptimusprimedeath.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Give me my face!"]]

*In "[[Afterdeath!]]", Prime, after failing to live up to his moral principles while playing a video game, volunteers to be killed. The [[Autobot]]s launch his funeral bier into space. Fortunately, the creator of the video game, [[Ethan Zachary]], saves a backup copy of Prime's mind on a [[floppy disk]]. We first meet this virtual Prime sixteen issues later in "[[Pretender to the Throne!]]". He gets his new [[Powermaster]] body two issues thereafter, in "[[People Power!]]".

*A previous attempt was made at making virtual Prime a new body in "[[Totaled!]]". The body ''spontaneously blew up''.

*About thirty issues later, Prime sacrifices himself to defeat [[Unicron]], in "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]". But he didn't actually die until "[[Still Life!]]". However, his Powermaster partner, [[Hi-Q]], survives, and almost immediately begins babbling about how he's ''really'' Optimus Prime. This turns out to be true, and the [[Last Autobot]] metamorphoses Hi-Q into Prime (with a new [[Action Master]] body) in [[End of the Road! (US)|the last issue of the original Marvel US series]].
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===''Generation 2''===
[[Image:Swarmoptimus.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Unleashing the light of the Matrix upon a great evil. Again.]]
*This Prime wasn't done dying yet. His adventures continued in the G2 comics, and he died defeating the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]] in the final issue of that series, "[[A Rage in Heaven!]]". The Swarm reconstituted him three pages later (in a body based on his then-current [[Combat Hero]] toy).
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==IDW Comics continuity==

*In his first battle with the [[Ore-13]] powered Megatron, Optimus was killed. {{storylink|Escalation issue 5}} Or at least, his ''main body'' was: by quickly downloading his consciousness into [[Combat Deck]] (and then back again), Optimus was able to survive. Being that close to death meant he briefly existed in a limbo state, which got him noticed by [[Nova Prime]] in the [[Dead Universe]]. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6}}
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*He then spends the first half of [[All Hail Megatron]] badly damaged and near death. He is revived however when [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and his crew arrive.

==''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity==
===''Beast Wars'' cartoon===
[[Image:Smelt Prime.JPG|right|200px|thumb|"I'm not quite dead yet! I feel happy!"]]
In ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' and ''[[Beast Machines (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'', you could mark the end of a season by the near-death experience of one [[Optimus Primal|Optimus]] or [[Optimus Prime (G1)|another]]...

*At [[Other Voices, Part 2|the end of the first season]] of ''Beast Wars'', [[Optimus Primal]] piloted a bomb-equipped stasis pod in an attempt to destroy the [[Planet Buster]]. Unfortunately, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] had sealed the pod's hatch, and Optimus blew up with it. [[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)|Early in the second season]] (a few hours later as far as the characters were concerned), [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] managed to unite Optimus's drifting [[spark]] with a [[blank]] [[protoform]], thus bringing him back to life (and in a new [[Transmetal]] body, too).

*At [[The Agenda (Part III)|the end of second season]], the ''Beast Wars'' Megatron came very close to killing the original Optimus Prime. But [[Optimal Situation|Prime didn't ''quite'' die]], so we really shouldn't count it.

===''Beast Machines'' cartoon===
*At [[End of the Line|the end of the first season]] of ''Beast Machines'', Optimus and Megatron had a cataclysmic battle, using the energies of [[Vector Sigma]] and the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]]. This would have destroyed [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], but Optimus took the warring energies into himself and disintegrated. However, his spark was trapped within the [[Oracle]], and the other [[Maximal]]s convinced him to return to the real world at [[Fallout|the start of second season]]. The Oracle kindly gave him a new body (which, believe it or not, was ''not'' a new toy).

*At [[Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|the end of the series]], Optimus gave his life to defeat Megatron once and for all, pushing him into the [[technorganic]] core of the planet. In assorted ancillary media ([[Universe (2003 comic)|convention comics]], [[Beast Wars Reborn|text]] [[Alternators|stories]]), he comes back to life yet again.

(Strangely, the end of the third season of ''Beast Wars'' had no Optimus deaths whatsoever! A half-dozen ''[[Depth Charge (BW)|o]][[Tigerhawk|t]][[Dinobot II|h]][[Inferno (BW)|e]][[Quickstrike (BW)|r]][[Rampage (BW)|s]]'' died, but not Optimus.)

==Robots in Disguise==

[[Optimus Prime (RID)#Notes|He]]'s one of the only Primes that ''didn't'' die! However, it came ''very'' close in [[The Final Battle (RID)|the final battle]], when he planned to sacrifice himself to stop [[Megatron (RID)|Galvatron]].

==Unicron Trilogy==
===''Armada'' cartoon===
[[Image:Sshot-arm-39-4.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Now Optimus, don't go all to pieces. You say you have to split? Well, you're a chip off the ol' block.]]
* In the ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' episode "[[Crisis]]", [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] used his body to block the blast of [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]'s [[Hydra Cannon]], protecting the [[Earth]]. When the cannon's energy is spent, we see Optimus turn grayish-white, then ''actually'' crumble to bits. A bunch of [[Mini-Con]]s use the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] to resurrect him [[Miracle|three episodes later]].
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===''Armada ''comic===
* The corpse of an [[Optimus Prime (Worlds Collide)|Optimus Prime]] (killed by Unicron) from an alternate universe appeared in the ''[[Armada (comic)|Armada]]'' comic issue titled "[[Worlds Collide, Part 1 of 4]]". Yep, practically all we know about this Optimus is that he died. He doesn't turn gray, but his colors are faded.

==''Universe''==
[[Image:Nemesisprimetfuclone.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Technically, this is the clone.]]
* The corpse of an [[Optimus Prime (Balancing Act)|Optimus Prime]] (killed by [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]]) from an alternate universe was cloned by Unicron to create [[Nemesis Prime (Universe 2003)|Nemesis Prime]]. The clone, before he became Nemesis, appeared in ''Cybertron'' comic issue "[[Balancing Act, Part 2]]". Once again, practically all we know about this Optimus is that he died.
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==Movie continuity==
{{Note|Though Optimus Prime doesn't die in the first [[Transformers (2007)|movie itself]], he does consider fusing the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] into his own spark, an action that would destroy them both, if necessary to keep it out of Decepticon hands.}}

===''Transformers The Game''===
In Decepticon mode storyline, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] was beaten to the ground, and as he crawled for the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] smashed his head with his flail ... poor Prime, he gets the most violent death. {{Storylink|Transformers The Game (console)}}

===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===
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Optimus was left in a frozen, ''near''-death state. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
[[Image:ROTF Optimus death.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Shot through the heart, and [[Sam Witwicky|you're]] to blame, you give love a bad name!]]

Perhaps the most brutal Prime death to date. To protect [[Sam Witwicky]], Optimus Prime engaged in a brutal battle with [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] and [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]. Despite "literally" disarming Starscream and destroying Grindor, Optimus is run-through from behind by Megatron and killed. This event causes Sam to follow the symbols the All Spark sliver placed in his mind to find the ancient [[Matrix of Leadership#Live-action film series|Matrix of Leadership]], the only thing that could restore life to Optimus. Unfortunately, it crumbled into dust upon touching it in the [[Tomb of the Primes]] on the border between [[Egypt]] and [[Jordan]]. During the climactic battle in Egypt between [[NEST]] and the Decepticons, Sam was seemingly killed by Megatron, only to be taken to another plane of existence where he met [[Seven Primes|the Primes who died]] to prevent [[The Fallen]] from achieving victory, and they bestowed upon him the true Matrix, which allowed Sam to revive Optimus. {{Storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}
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==''Animated'' cartoon==
[[Image:TFAnimated transformandrollout DEATH.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Dead in the third episode for 75 seconds. It's a new record!]]
In the third part of the ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' movie, "[[Transform and Roll Out]]", [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] dies after his battle with [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]]. Like the Generation 1 Prime before him, he turns gray upon dying. Seventy-five seconds later - for us AND for the characters - [[Sari Sumdac]] uses the mysterious [[AllSpark Key]] to revive him. It's a new record, Primey!
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==''Henkei!'' manga==
{{storylink|A Nightmare, Once Again}}

==See also==
* [[Primus apotheosis]]

* [[Death]]

*[[Prime Spark]] - The short story explores the question of where <s>all</s> [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|most]] of those Optimus-es go when they die. (Answer: someplace dull.)

*[[Ginrai#Victory_cartoon|God Ginrai]] - Often erroneously put in this category

* [[Dirge (G1)]] - The appropriately named, yet very unlucky guy who gets [[:Image:Dirge DeathSerpentor.jpg|killed]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathSwarm.jpg|off]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathTimelines.jpg|in]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathUnicron.jpg|many]] [[:Image:Dirge DeathArmada.jpg|continuities]] (but less than [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]]).

* [[Sentinel Prime (G1)]] - The [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] [[:Image:Sentinel prime lou.jpg|who]] [[:Image:Sentinel prime dw.jpg|must]] [[Megatron Origin issue 4|die]].

* [[Cy-Kill (disambiguation)|Cy-Kill]], who is repeatedly killed COS HE SUCKS LOLOLOLOL.

* [[Starscream]] - [[ Starscream (G1)|He]] [[Starscream (Armada)|dies]] [[Starscream (Animated)|a]] lot

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[[Category:Stories]]

Talk:Kup (G1)

2011-04-28T00:43:24Z

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Does anyone else want to help work on this to make him the Featured Article for June? BotCon ends right as June begins, and Kup is the star of the set, so I thought it might be appropriate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:57, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
:Logical choice. Just looks like he needs his Dreamwave and... er, dang near ''all'' of his cartoon section done. I'm in a G1-cartoon sorta place right now, so I'll take a whack at that part, and the associated Japanese gumpf. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:19, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
::Shouldn't be too hard to get his IDW section up to date, either. I've got those issues sitting around. ...hey, does he HAVE merchandise? He's got a section for it and a stub template... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:21, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
:::...maybe a PVC? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:22, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
::::Nope. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:42, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::No PVC in the HOC-era. No Kabaya kits, no MC Axis, no bottlecap statuettes I think, no MyClones (even wreck-gar got one of those!) no stamping sets... I think Kup might actually have ''no'' merchandise. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:43, 4 May 2009 (EDT)
::::::I am completely apalled. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 14:48, 4 May 2009 (EDT)

Hey, anyone know if Kup's TF Collection "Future Cybertron" bio got translated? Just wondering if it contains any information on how he got bonded to Recoil (operating, that is, on the assumption that in J-continuity, Recoil is a robot from Master). - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:05, 4 May 2009 (EDT)

I say, this is all looking rather spiffy. I've scanned his TFC bio and sent it to Spengs, so if there's anything there, I'll throw that in and we'll be golden. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:48, 8 May 2009 (EDT)

==Targetmaster==
I just bought Kup with Recoil and he has die-cast metal parts just like the original figure. Are we sure there wasn't a run of TM Kup figures where the die-cast was retained? Feel free to blast me if this is a stupid question.[[User:Thirtysilver|Thirtysilver]] 21:55, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
: The TM Kup "Transformers Collection" reissue with Wheelie had die-cast. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:57, 18 July 2009 (EDT)
::My figure's copyright markings say 1986.[[User:Thirtysilver|Thirtysilver]] 05:50, 20 July 2009 (EDT)

== Up drawing thing ==

Fan club magazine is ''not'' part of [[Timelines (franchise)|Timelines]]. Maybe the heading title should be change for that section or have a note added. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 04:34, 5 June 2010 (EDT)

==Wings of honor==

Isn't Wing of honor supposed to go in with the cartoon continuity, so could we move that section up there? --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 06:12, 30 October 2010 (EDT)
:No, it's very similar to the cartoon continuity but there have been intentional deviations. The same can be said of things like Dreamwave and Blackthorn, so we should keep Wings where it is. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 08:21, 30 October 2010 (EDT)
::Well in that case can we move that section away from the cartoon continuity on some other characters pages? --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 09:09, 31 October 2010 (EDT)

== Generations Kup instructions head ==

Does anybody know who the planned retool of Kup is or why the head discrepancy isn't noted in the main article? [[Special:Contributions/134.71.80.204|134.71.80.204]] 18:28, 17 February 2011 (EST) (ZeldaTheSwordsman. P.S., I'm very, very, very sorry)

A '''possible''' retool could be Orion Pax, but as of today, Febuary 24 2011, we don't know who or what '''could''' be re-tooled,(Deceptiscourge45).

== Experience Lad... ==

Anyone mind if the quote at the top is extended to include 'Experience lad, you should learn to appreciate it' as I feel this encapsulates kup a bit more? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 20:43, 27 April 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Energon Harvester

2011-03-16T16:25:27Z

Durge:

Anyone else see a resemblance between this and the Magnificence? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 12:20, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
: They're golden spheres. There is no other correlation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:23, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
: I know, just voicing what i'm seeing. It'd be cool if it's design was based on the Magnificence though right? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 12:25, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5

2011-03-16T16:21:01Z

Durge: /* Furthermore... */ new section

=="All is well, but..."==

Isn't it also stated or at least implied that not only did many of the Decepticons escape, but that they killed most of the Autobots prisoners when they fled? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 22:57, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

== Fort Max ==

Don't have it yet but this page says Max is on life support in the summary, then that his body is still missing in the Errors. Either that needs to be fixed or explained much better. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 09:41, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
:Pretty sure his body wasn't missing, seeing how Ironfist was hauling the damn thing while Pyro sacrificed himself. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:03, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
:: You also see Fort Max laying up next to the door in the panel where Pyro shoots it open. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:23, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

== The go-to guy for repairs... ==

I know Ratchet is the usual go-to guy for repairs in IDW but how can he patch up Springer if he's currently on Earth doing the Bumblebee mini-series? Is Springer on Earth now? Or was this just a typo or something, like Prowl's portrayal in his Spotlight, that doesn't match up well to the other texts set at the same time? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 11:56, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

== Furthermore... ==

Isn't Prowl currently on Earth as well? He's with Hot Rod's/ Rodimus' group building the ship in Seasons in Flight so how can he be in space somewhere chatting to Magnus, then be on Earth BEFORE Magnus seemingly arrives? Have I got my timelines horrendously muddled or something? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 12:21, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Optimus Prime (G1)

2011-03-16T16:12:11Z

Durge: /* Ongoing */

==Splitting==
I am proposing that we split Optimus Prime's toy section off into a separate article - "See list of Optimus Prime (G1) toys" or something equivalent, as Wikipedia does. The article as a whole is really long and is only going to get longer, and it seems like a logical place for a split. Thoughts? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 11:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

:As long as I get to create it, since I largely wrote the toy section myself. You're not stealing my pointless Internet Glory, you jerkfaces. You have the faces of several jerks! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

::I vote "Optimus Prime (G1) toys", rather than List of X. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
:::A disambig ''prior'' to the end of the article? That's crazy-talk!
:::(Of course, the alternative is Optimus Prime toys (G1), which is just plain wrong.) -[[User:69.88.91.218|69.88.91.218]] 16:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Shall I create the new article now? I think its moot if Walky (an admin) votes in favour of it. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Alright, I made the G1 Prime toy article anyway, since scrolling down to make edits in the big Prime page is annoying, and I always need to check to see how pics I use in one section affect the section before or after. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

===Splitting Part 2===
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And neither his cartoon nor Marvel sections are remotely close to finished. We need to consider a way to split a character fiction page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:43, 13 April 2009 (EDT)
: As of right now, his Marvel G1 section alone is too long to be its own page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:38, 18 April 2009 (EDT)
:: Done with Marvel G1 section, pretty sure. Phew! It is now, by itself, 54kb. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:04, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

:My first thought would be to break out the Marvel Comics continuity and G1 cartoon continuity sections into their own pages, as they're likely to be the longest bits. ("Optimus Prime (G1 Marvel Comics)" and "Optimus Prime (G1 cartoon)", perhaps? I don't like the implicaiton of those page names, though, which make it sound like we're designating each of these as separate characters.) A ''See main article:'' link under each header would cover it, similar to what we do for toys and merchandise. (It'd be a nice touch if we could leave like maybe one image alongside each link, so they aren't quite so lost in the shuffle.) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:00, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
::How about "Optimus Prime (G1) Marvel Comics" and "Optimus Prime (G1) cartoon". It doesn't give the impression (as much) that it is a different character and is more like "Optimus Prime (G1) toys". - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:13, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
::: Yeah, that scheme definitely works better. Maybe "Sunbow cartoon" just to make it absolutely clear? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:15, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
:::: Would the Japanese cartoon continuity stuff go in that article as well? --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 21:23, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
:Scout assures us that by "some browsers" it means "Netscape 6 or older," which 0% of our readers are using. However, there's still a practical problem, what with having to scroll past 10 pages to get to other content. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:36, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

::Maybe Japanese stuff should go with the Sunbow stuff, since some part of them are common. But if that happens, the title may become "Optimus Prime (G1) Subow/Japan" or something like that. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 02:52, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
:::"Optimus Prime (G1) cartoon continuity". -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:54, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
::::I'd go with something more like "Optimus Prime in the G1 cartoon." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 15:27, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
:::::"Optimus Prime (G1) fiction (cartoon)" or similar? Character, series identifier, fiction, subfiction identifier. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 19:56, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

===Splitting Part 3===
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This is a joke now. With the server problems, most of the time it doesn't even fully load. It '''''needs''''' to be split. Urgently. "Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics" and...? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 15:43, 1 June 2009 (EDT)
:"Optimus Prime (G1)/Cartoon continuity"? Including all the Japanese stuff? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:47, 1 June 2009 (EDT)
:::The cartoon section adds up to 91 kilobytes, apparently. With change for categories, etc, that would put it alone (excluding the MSTF transcripts) somewhere between third and fifth in the Long pages list behind only [[Starscream (G1)]] [112 kilobytes, another one we should probably look at splitting], Megatron (G1), possibly Kup (G1) and probably the residue of this page. Not entirely sure about working "continuity" into the page title either - it's, to pick one random example, [[Tap-Out (Animated)]] not "Tap-Out (Animated continuity)", after all. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 16:20, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

:: I'm not trying to say that all previously options for splitting this article are bad ideas (I support them, as a matter of fact) but I'm just going to pitch another idea in case we need to go to a plan B or something like that... Maybe we could even split his fiction into seperate time periods? As in "Optimus Prime (G1)/Fiction: 1988-2000" (and yes, I just made up random years up for my example.) I don't know how good an idea that would be, but in any case, even if it's a horrible idea, I always find suggesting alternative solutions to problems like this helps, regardless of whether or not they end up being used... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:09, 1 June 2009 (EDT)
:Personally, I think it'd be best to split it into [[Optimus Prime (G1)]] and [[Convoy]], and to do the same with the other huge character pages, too. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 17:52, 1 June 2009 (EDT)

==Old crap==
I vote that we keep this article blank untill the last possible moment

This isn't a democracy, X-BoB. It's the Internet.
You fail at wiki.

I think this article should be done as soon as possible. Because of, y'know its massive importance and stuff.
[[User:BeastWarrior|BeastWarrior]] 08:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't we refeare to Optimus Prime as Convoy in the articles on the JPN shows?

Sentenial Prime shouldn't be in the first paragraphs, as he's not in all contuities
JMO-X-BoB58

It warrants discussion - after all, he is the most powerful of the Go-Bots...
* save that for Bayformers.

==Dreamwave Continuity==
The article says: "Optimus Prime started life as Optronix (Orion to his friends)"

Does anyone have an issue reference for this (the Orion part)? I admit that my DW knowledge isn't too great, but I don't recall this.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 15:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

It's from the Keepers Trilogy. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:03, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
:That explains it, then. I don't really consider the Keepers Trilogy as canon, never having bothered to read it. However, since it ''is'' official, it's appropriate here.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 17:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

::Canon's a tough call witht he Keepers Trilogy. The Optronix thing, for instance, was originally drafted for Optimus Prime's MTMTE profile (IIRC) but the MTMTE thing was drasticly retooled midway through, and so it didn't make it into the entry-- but apparently Scott Ciencen had access to a draft of it which he used for Prime's backstory.

::As for the Keepers Trilogy's overall continuity... it doesn't mesh any WORSE than the first Dreamwave mini-series. (Faint praise though that be.) Plus it made some definite motions to align itself more closely to the comics continuity at the end of the 3rd book. ...and if I remember my timeline right, Superion's head showed up in Annihilation before it would have been written into TF#0. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

==Stuff==
"Auntie" was, so far as I know, not an acronym. As well, it was definitely the name for the Ark's computer in the US, so I removed the italics as I didn't think those events/reasonings were UK-specific.

As well, the Intraformers competition is not from the UK - it's from Sureshot's Transformers: Universe profile. But as I didn't look it up yet, I wasn't sure if I should un-italize the mention of "before he was named Optimus Prime" that's mentioned with it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 03:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

:Marvel continuity, from the intraformers sharpshooting competition arose, never had a 'pre optimus Prime.' He was always just Optimus Prime. (And was called such even when a junior officer, as seen in the Underbase saga.)
:Optimus Prime was a gifted athlete beginning to study for a medical profession when the war broke out. Presumably the shooting competition was part of Prime's athlete days- shooting is an Olympic sport after all. (Well,part of one.)
:If you want to split the difference on the entry, I suggest changing 'before he was named Optimsu Prime' to either ''before the war began'' or ''before the war began in earnest.'' The latter is only loosely justified by the text of comics continuities (the city-ststes had standaign armies and apparently fought- the great games were suppsoed to be a formalized sublimation of this) but it does have the marit of fitting well with War Dawn (and thus fits the new post* continuities which've come along that smosh both continuities together) without actually being '''wrong''' in the context of its original occourence. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:26, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
::And it's not like civilians don't do shooting sports as a hobby or anything. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 04:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Beast Wars Primal ==

Do we want to include the BW Bat Primal and the first MUNKY Primal as toys of Prime? In all one piece of media Bat Primal appeared in, he was definintly Prime with a new name, and the same can be said for Ultra MUNKY's specs. I can't remember if it's been brought up before, but if it has, I can't find it.
: It's been a topic of discussion, but I think most of it has kept to IRC so far. The red/blue "Convobat" from Japan may even have text on the back that says it's the original Prime, and the purple alligator Megatron that came with it has text that mentions a Walther P38, but we haven't pursued further translation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:56, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
::Actually, we did, and it specifically says on both of them that they used to have those modes and are now animals. The problem, of course, is whether that makes them any more "really" Prime and Megatron than the US versions, or for that matter the Ultra toys in either country. Remember that Japan didn't even get a yes-or-no on whether they were the same guys until Metals. My personal preference would probably be to consider all of them Primal and BW Megs toys, despite how much I want the CD guys to be the G1 characters, or else we get into a bizarre continuum of "bat is Prime/ape is both/TM is Primal" which is confusing and not helpful, I think. -[[User:LV|LV]] 01:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

== Kiss Players ==

This bio says the EDC was bringing Convoy's remains from the battle of Autobot City. I hadnt' seen this in any of the other stuff i read, so could someone confirm that for me? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:06, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
: That info was put in by Swift, who seriously knows his Kiss Players stuff. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

::Thank you Walky. To express my gratitude, I shall try to be less of a dumbass in the future. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

::I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that reputation, but I suppose I brought it on myself. And yeah, lots of KP story material places it as a direct follow-up to the movie.--[[User:Swift|Swift]] 16:39, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Follows the movie- but not trying to be compatale with season 3, right? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Wait, naughty-surfer Marissa Fairborne. That was a stupid question. '''I recind it!''' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::I think it helps that Japanese season 3 takes place 4 years after this, since it's all up in 2010 instead of 2006. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
::::::Oh, right, I forgot, the 5-years-in-which-Daniel-does-not-appear-to-age. That DOES change things. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
:::::::They do seem to be taking pains to make it all sort of fit in. Hot Rod's backstory says he gave up the Matrix and reverted from Rodimus, too. --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 19:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

==Pudding==
MSTF running gag. "First darkness... then... light... then, pudding, I don't know why." Since then, PUDDING has come up in regards to Prime a bit frequently. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

== Parody trivia ==

I don't think we should include in trivia (or anywhere else) all statements done in all the parody. I know the family Guy Jewish Prime is notorious, but if we start including that, we should as well mention Prime turned a movie for prostate cancer prevention. I think canon is difficult enough to determine by itself.
Also, if we had to seriously think about Optimus's religious orientation, he is most probably a [[Primus]] believer. Unless being Jewish for a transformers is about not believing [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] is the new Primus incarnation, but in that case, most of the Transformers are probably Jewish.

:: ... who the fuck put that in there? The idea of Family Guy being TF canon has made me physically ill, thank you. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

::::Agreed. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:02, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

== John Wayne & Abe Lincolln ==

The [[David Wise]] interview on the Kid Rhino DVD's includes a fairly lengthy tangent on why he thinks Optimus Prime was the greatest of the 80's bumper crop of heroic characters, where he says that it's because Prime is a mash-up of Lincoln's ideals and John Wayne's methodology. He was discussing RoOP (which he didn't write) but ''this'' comparison seems to be 'about' his work in season 2. Thing is, I couldn't tell- is the Wayne-Lincoln thing Wise's way of looking at Prime? Something the Sunbow writers room had synthesized by the time season 2 was ramping up? (Prime was much blander in season 1...) Or was it ''always'' part of his character? The original character bios of Prime have it in spades- was there a margin-note that Budinsky (or whoever) jotted down somewhere for Prime 'John Wayne + Lincoln' that other writers followed, or did this realization/synthesis come later?

[http://www.creativescreenwriting.com/expo/speaker_detail.cfm?speakerID=1209 Tom Pope] has a fascinating theory on heroes and societies, and it caught my eye that he thinks the most recent set of heroic archetypes (they come in pairs,) were Wyatt Earp and Lincoln. I ''see'' Tom on occasion, and I think he'd get a kick out of the Optimus Prime thing, but I want to get it right. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

==Cartoon section confusion==
I was advised against segmenting G1 Soundwave's article to reflect his appearance in the Madman comic as it would be a bad trend of splitting established continuities every time a new story or dubious retcon emerges. After viewing the cartoon section of this page, I can see what JW means, because I couldn't tell what the hell was going on. Why are the Japanese comics (even if they are set within their alternate cartoon continuity) directly inserted between G1 Season 1/2 and the 1986 Movie? And then the Teletraan Go Go and Kiss Players crap in between the movie and Season 3/4, which, funnily enough, also uses the Japanese 2010 title, which, as far as I know, we have never used as I am so often reminded that this is a American Transformers wiki. As it stands, the cartoon section of arguably the most important character on this wiki is very confusing. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:Ichh, didnt see this talk post and talked about this on the Soundwave talk page... yeah, I'm all agreeing with this, and stuff. As the American and Japanese animated continuities have just recently become ''very'' different animals as a result of all the extra stuff that's been jammed into the Japanese timeline lately, I'm more in favour of "American animated continuity" and "Japanese animated continuity" being two separate headers. I did this with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] recently (I remember between posts!), and I think it's the tidiest way of representing the information. I'm not doing anything this evening, so I might take a crack at re-working Prime's page to see what we all think... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]]
::A lot of the stuff on Optimus Prime's page is a product of the wiki's very early work. When Japanese/English stuff gets this crazy, it should be separated accordingly. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Roight, I've taken a stab at reorganizing it all. What say we all? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 23:32, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks man, I forgot all about this as I was blocking out the mess of this page from my mind. I think we should have some sort of 'review' policy where we check articles that were created in full in 2006 to see if they still adhere to our current requirements. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

== Weapon ==

Any other weapon he uses other than his standard Rifle?([[User:MARV 2000|MARV 2000]] 23:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC))
:Do his [[Furmanism]]s count? --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:17, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
:Depends on the continuity. In ''[[Stormbringer (comics)|Stormbringer]]'' he uses bunches and bunches of weapons. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

==Name==

Just curious but is a plural version of his name Optimuses or Optimi?
[[User:Proconix|Proconix]]
:"[[Optimus (disambiguation)|Optimuses]]", per [[Megatron (BW)]]. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Okeydoke.[[User:Proconix|Proconix]]

==Cullen in Later Commercials==

Has this been verified? Back in either BotCon 2004 or BotCon 2006 (I don't recall which at the moment), Cullen claimed NOT to have done those late commercials (post-movie). I'm perfectly willing to believe that this is just faulty memory, but wanted to check.--[[Special:Contributions/71.110.188.13|71.110.188.13]] 09:56, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
: Everybody in those later commercials sounded like either Cullen or Michael Bell, so unless they got two imitators of their voices exactly, who couldn't do other voices... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:45, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

== Robot Masters sub-headings ==

The Robot Masters sub-headings are h6s (six =s). They're SMALLER THAN THE BODY TEXT! I think some significant rearrangement of that bit should be considered... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 18:54, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
:I ''hate'' those little things, but really, there's not a lot that ''can'' be logically done. About the only thing to do is bump the whole Japanese cartoon cotinuity up by one header size, but then it ceases to be a sub-header of the "Generation 1 cartoon continuity" (I've done it like that in a few places in the past, purely for... well, ''this very'' aesthetic reason, actually, but I'm pretty sour on the idea now). It ceases to be an issue, mind you, if we split the cartoon off into its own article, where the headers can all move up one (or even two) sizes because of the reduced need for them. And that's looking more and more like something we should really do. Because... well, goddamn. There are still three continuities that need written up, and more that need fleshed out to full! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:39, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
::If this is happening in several articles, then perhaps tweaking the site CSS to increase the size of h5s and h6s should be considered... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 08:36, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
::[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=User:SanityOrMadness/test&oldid=281657 Possible suggestion?] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 08:59, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

== Italian Dubbing ==

Hi, I'm Italian and I'm trying to track the italian Optimus Prime voices.
Yes, I said voices: the "italian Prime" had – at least – 4 different voices thru the four cartoon seasons and the animated movie (maybe 5 voices!). Traking the story of Optimus italian voices is a little bit difficult because of a lack of infos about italian '80 dubbing of the G1 series (saying that is chaotic is an euphemism: we have characters that actually change their voice in a single episode, for example Bumblebee/Maggiolino).
I would like to add a note in Optimus G1 page about this (in my opinion is a nice curiosity about Optimus), but in wich section can I add it?

Moreover, I think that the whole italian '80 dubbing is interesting, because of this "voices chaos": not a single character has the same voice thru the G1 continuity (Megatron/Galvatron at least 2 voices, Starscream at least 3 voices, and so on).

What do you guys think about?

== Alternity ==

Wouldn't it be better to separate the Alternity Optimus from this one? Noting that he used to be G1 Prime? As he does look a fair bit different and has all these crazy powers and stuff. Just an idea. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 10:40, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:From what i get from the story, he's both G1 Optimus Prime and every other optimus prime that joined Alternity...that's the hard part, i think he sould stay here and link other primes(who actualy get fiction) join.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:56, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

== Universe 2.0/action blast ==

Should it be placed here, or will we give that Prime his own article?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:39, 26 September 2009 (EDT)
:Here. His toy was from the Classic series which is part of the G1 continuity family. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:08, 26 September 2009 (EDT)
::Only problem is, i can't add anything because the page is protected.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:53, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

== To Die Game! ==

I'm just wondering why has my addition of the "To Die Game!" fiction been removed? Are we making a separate page for the Silver Alternity Prime or something? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 23:22, 15 October 2009 (EDT)
:For unknown reasons, we appear to be putting the red auto-avatar on this page, and the silver one on his G1 cartoon continuity subpage, where the Binaltech stories reside. I can ''sort of'' see why, but I also think it's going to confuse a lot of folks.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:25, 15 October 2009 (EDT)
::Ah, I see... Maybe we should add a note at the end of the Alternity section then? Something along the lines of "Alternity beings are both individuals and a collective of separate entities. More fiction about Optimus Prime's Alternity collective can be found here." And link to the other section where there's more fiction on him? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 23:30, 15 October 2009 (EDT)
:::It was my understanding that the red one was specifically G1 Optimus Prime, and the silver one was a distinct Prime that's of the Alternity collective. So, yeah, the silver one wouldn't go on this page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:29, 16 October 2009 (EDT)
::::Actually, they're ''both'' G1 Prime. Specifically, the silver one is Binaltech Optimus Prime.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:10, 16 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Yeah, the Silver Prime is specifically G1-cartoon Optimus Prime, hailing from the branched-off Binaltech timeline, so I put his exploits on that article. The red one is from Primax 109.0 Beta, so he shouldn't go on the cartoon continuity page, if you see what I mean. It is, of course, entirely possible that we'll get more Primes and Megatrons down the line, too, who would all go under the basic "Alternity" header of the main character page, unless they were specifically from another pre-existing universe. The addition of a note is a good idea. Alternity is... complicated to write up, I think. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:58, 16 October 2009 (EDT)
::::::It certainly does strain our fiction writeup method when multiple characters are not only all the same guy (IE all Optimus Prime) but all the same guy ''from the same continuity family''. Yeah, from an in-universe perspective an alternate universe is an alternate universe, but our continuity family grouping of character articles makes it especially tricky.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:57, 18 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Do an <nowiki>[[Optimus Prime (Alternity)]]</nowiki> (possibly Convoy, since it's Japanese exclusive) and redirect from both here and any other pages (like the G1toon page) to that with Main article: tags; then split that page by universe-of-origin with explanation where necessary. They're simultaneously merged into one and distinct from each other, yes?
:::::::(Since it's not only multiversal, but - with Elita Seven - there are already non G1 characters, it's not really GEEWUN, per se) -[[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 22:41, 18 October 2009 (EDT)
::::::::If we were to do that, it wouldn't need a parenthetical. The article would reside at <nowiki>[[Masterlord Convoy]]</nowiki>, as he already has an English name that's distinct from Optimus Prime's Japanese name.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:45, 18 October 2009 (EDT)

== Transformer with three modes? ==

Prime is in the [[:Category:Transformers with three modes|Transformers with three modes]] category. I'm trying to think what version of him has three modes. Do we count the Powermaster Prime's super robot as a third mode? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:34, 22 January 2010 (EST)
:Going down the list, it looks like Star Convoy is the main reason. He has robot, truck and base modes without a separate cab robot. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:47, 22 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course. I didn't realize he didn't have a trailer. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:55, 22 January 2010 (EST)

== New statue/bust ==

A newly solicited Powermaster Optimus bust describes as follows..."As depicted in the ''Transformers: Armada'' animated series, ''Power Master Optimus'' shed his merged form and went on to sacrifice himself to defeat Unicron and save all of mankind." It's Diamond Select/Art Asylum, but more importantly, what the hell does that mean for the continuity? Previews April 2010 edition, page 371. [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 00:47, 18 April 2010 (EDT)
:It means that whoever wrote that solicitation copy doesn't know what they're talking about? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:04, 18 April 2010 (EDT)
::Is a Previews considered an official source? Is this gonna be another microcontinuity entry? I'd be tickled pink if the ''Armada'' franchise got tacked onto G1 because of a badly written ad selling a bust that, as likely as not these days, could get cancelled. [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 18:07, 18 April 2010 (EDT)

== Battle Convoy ==

Just curious, in Japan is "Battle Convoy" (Laser Optimus Prime) a different guy? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:15, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
:Not according to the G-2 comics and story pages. Convoy was changed into Battle Convoy by the [[Reconfiguration Matrix]]. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 10:22, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

== Taiwanese names ==

[http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Optimus_Prime_%28G1%29&diff=7288&oldid=7287 They were both added by TX55.] So you'll have to ask him just what exactly the difference is. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 07:14, 21 February 2011 (EST)

== Ongoing ==

Could someone update Prime's appearances in the IDW ongoing fiction please? The current page is at least 5 issues behind the times. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 11:46, 9 March 2011 (EST)
:And why can't you do it? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:00, 9 March 2011 (EST)
::Perhaps he is himself five or more issues behind the times, and his reason for wanting the section updated is so he'll know what's going on? --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 14:41, 9 March 2011 (EST)
:Because I suck at this editing lark and half of what I put up gets taken down for not being good enough. I'd rather a wiki veteran could do it and get it right for those who might just be starting with ongoing and need to know whats happened thus far with prime specifically then for me to put up a half arsed summary that isn't any good to anyone. This is G1 Optimus' page, rookies like me aren't usually welcome. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 12:12, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 5

2011-03-16T15:56:19Z

Durge: /* The go-to guy for repairs... */ new section

The Ascending issue 4

2011-03-16T13:26:44Z

Durge: /* Items of note */

{{comicstory|seriesissue=[[The Ascending|''Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending'']] #4
|prev=The Ascending issue 3
|image=BWAscending-04B.jpg
|caption=Hardhead likes the view, yes he does.
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[January 9]], [[2008]]
|coverdate=November 2007
|written by=[[Simon Furman]]
|art by=[[Guido Guidi]]
|colors by=[[Josh Burcham]]
|colors assist by=[[Andrew Elder]], [[Liam Shalloo]] and [[Josh Perez]]
|letters by=[[Chris Mowry]]
|edits by=[[Andrew Steven Harris]]
|continuity=[[Beast Wars cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''Maximals and Predacons unite on two worlds to stop Shokaract and the rise of Unicron.'''

==Synopsis==
Under Shokaract's instruction, [[Herald of Shokaract|his Heralds]] distribute [[Angolmois]] capsules to the crazed masses of Cybertron, with the intention of using the chaos and negative feelings to power the [[Matrix of Conquest|Anti-Matrix]] in Shokaract's chest. Observing the chaos is Big Convoy, who meets Bump, a "specialist" sent by Lio Convoy. Soon afterward, Big Convoy and his soldiers meet the [[Pack]], along with immigrants from Earth, including Ravage. Ravage chronally displaces himself to consult the time-lost Magmatron. Meanwhile, Lio Convoy requests that Bump study the Angolmois and create a retrovirus to counteract it—enough of it for all of Cybertron. In the netherspace, Magamtron proposes to Ravage a plan: Bring Shokaract to him so that he may be shown the true purpose of his "Ascending". He suggests getting a Maximal to do the suicide mission of placing the [[chronal phase facilitator]] on Shokaract himself.

On Earth, the Angolmois-drunk Razorbeast continues to battle the [[Blendtron]]s. Refusing to let the Blendtrons destroy them all, the left-behind Predacon and Maximal forces unite to take down the gigantic and powerful attackers. Optimus Minor checks on Razorbeast; he is still rational, but the Angolmois threatens his sanity. He tells Optimus Minor that he knows what to do then.

On Cybertron, Ravage has filled in the others about Magmatron's plan. Prowl II and Snarl are tasked with attaching the facilitator onto Shokaract, while others attack him to distract him. In the following battle, many die by Shokaract's hand. Back on Earth, Elephorca is destroyed by Razorbeast and Drancron is kicked into Rartorata's stinger, annihilating the both of them. The only challenge left is Razorbeast, who has now lost his inhibitions. Optimus Minor pleads with Razorbeast to not force his hand.

The battle against Shokaract goes as planned; Snarl and Prowl approach Shokaract while invisible, allowing Snarl to use the facilitator to transport Shokaract into Magmatron's netherspace. Shokaract's Heralds, baffled by his disappearance, are distracted long enough for Ravage to throw a grenade their way, scattering them. Magmatron shows Shokaract his true propose: to be a vessel of [[Unicron]]. Aghast at this revelation, Shokaract rips the Anti-Matrix from his chest, committing "spectacular suicide". This causes a "timelash" that sets Magmatron back into normal space on Cybertron. He delivers the sad news—Razorbeast was euthanized.

Bump delivers the first batch of the anti-Angolmois retrovirus, but he needs a proper lab to mass-produce it. Observing the sorry state of Cybertron, Lio Convoy and Big Convoy hope that no threat comes up while they're focused on rebuilding.

Unfortunately, Megatron has [[Beast Machines (cartoon)|arrived]].

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=
* [[Rockbuster]] (11)
* [[Santon]] (12)
* [[Scuba]] (13)
* [[Motorarm (BWII)|Motorarm]] (10)
* [[Tako Tank]] (14)
* [[Tonbot]] (15)
* [[Gimlet]] (16)
* [[Sharp Edge (BWN)|Sharp Edge]] (17)
* [[Bump]] (18)
* [[Big Convoy]] (19)
* [[Cohrada]] (20)
* [[Stampy]] (22)
* [[Survive]] (21)
* [[Apache]] (23)
* [[Break]] (24)
* [[Drill Nuts]] (25)
* [[Longrack (BWN)|Longrack]] (26)
* [[Lio Convoy]] (27)
* [[Razorbeast]] (31)
* [[Armordillo]] (34)
* [[Bantor]] (35)
* [[Claw Jaw]] (36)
* [[Cybershark]] (37)
* [[Optimus Minor]] (38)
* [[Ramulus]] (39)
* [[B'Boom]] (44)
* [[Stinkbomb]] (46)
* [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (51)
* [[Prowl II]] (52)
* [[Snarl (BW)|Snarl]] (53)
* [[Air Hammer]] (54)
* [[Noctorro]] (56)
* [[Mach Kick]] (59)
* [[Torca]] (60)
* [[K-9]] (62)
* [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] (63)
* [[Bonecrusher (BW)|Bonecrusher]] (64)
* [[Polar Claw]] (66)
|h2=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]|c2=
* [[Archadis]] (7)
* [[Autocrasher]] (8)
* [[Crazybolt]] (9)
* [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (28)
* [[Magmatron]] (29)
* [[Retrax]] (40)
* [[Spittor (BW)|Spittor]] (41)
* [[Terragator]] (42)
* [[Manterror]] (43)
* [[Jetstorm (BW)|Jetstorm]] (45)
* [[Buzzclaw (BW)|Buzzclaw]] (47)
* [[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]] (48)
* [[Powerpinch]] (49)
* [[Snapper]] (50)
* [[Injector]] (55)
* [[Scourge (BW)|Scourge]] (57)
* [[Transquito]] (58)
* [[Insecticon (BW)|Insecticon]] (61)
* [[Manta Ray (BW)|Manta Ray]] (65)
* [[Lazorbeak]] (67)
* [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] (69)
|c4=
* [[Shokaract]] (1)
* [[Starscream (BWII)|Hellscream]] (2)
* [[Antagony]] (3)
* [[BB|Max-B]] (4)
* [[Thrust (BWII)|Thrustor]] (5)
* [[Hardhead (BWN)|Hardhead]] (6)
* [[Elephorca]] (30)
* [[Drancron]] (32)
* [[Rartorata]] (33)
* [[Unicron]] (68)
}}

==Errors==
* Snapper is mistakenly colored as Armordillo in the first panel on page 9.
* Drill Nuts is mistakenly colored as Drill Bit in one scene as Shokaract's Heralds attack him and Polar Claw.

==Items of note==
* Guido Guidi was tasked with the art for this issue due to the departure of [[Don Figueroa]] from [[IDW Publishing]]. Don provided the art for a cover before he left, however.
* On page 13, in the panel below the one in which Shokaract says "It begins." the head and shoulder of movie Optimus Prime is clearly visible.
* Ramulus's line "Let us throw ourselves headlong into the fray!" somewhat parallels a line he spoke in "[[Primeval Dawn]]"—"Lead me to the fray!" As well, Shokaract's line "Heralds... attend me!" is a direct quote from his previous iteration in [[Terminus]].
* Optimus Minor's line "Better to burn out than to fade away" is a quote from the Neil Young song "My My Hey Hey" and was also made famous in the first Highlander film.
* Back when he wrote the ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' section of ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'', Simon Furman noted that Megatron was able to escape his shackles on the Maximals' shuttle because it hit a "time disturbance." While there is nothing in the actual ''show'' that supports this notion, it is apparent that the "timelash" induced by Shokaract's suicide in this issue is the disturbance in question.
* Negative feedback on this issue from a IDW Forum poster caused the usually amiable Furman to snap "No please, don't hold back. I'm starting to understand why Don [Figueroa] quit." He later clarified he didn't mean Don had quit because of negative feedback, but "when you work long and bl**dy hard on something and the first comment you read is that one, it's enough to make a person think, 'why do I even bother'. Don quit for Don's reasons. I'm just saying it's stuff like that makes me think long and hard about the future, that's all." [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?t=3025].

===Deaths===
In typical Furman fashion, many characters die in the battles against the Blendtrons and Shokaract. Those who die are:
*[[Noctorro]], [[Insecticon (BW)|Insecticon]], [[K-9]],and [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] by Shokaract's claw cannons.
*[[Elephorca]], by Razorbeast's mauling.
*[[Buzzclaw (BW)|Buzzclaw]] and an unidentified character, by Rartorata's vomit.
*Possibly [[Bantor]] and [[Manta Ray (BW)|Manta Ray]], being crushed by Drancron.
*[[Drancron]], [[Lazorbeak]], [[Rartorata]], and [[Spittor (BW)|Spittor]] with Drancron being forced into Rartorata's stinger, causing an explosion that destroys all of them.
*[[Prowl II]], by a stray beam.
*[[Shokaract]], committing suicide by ripping the Anti-Matrix out of his chest.
*[[Razorbeast]], fatally shot by Optimus Minor.

===Covers (4)===
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* '''Cover A:''' Shokaract; art by [[Nick Roche]].
* '''Cover B:''' Shokaract and minions; art by [[Don Figueroa]].
* '''Cover RIA:''' Uncolored version of cover A
* '''Cover RIB:''' Uncolored version of cover B

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Talk:Energon Harvester

2011-03-13T16:20:37Z

Durge: New page: Anyone else see a resemblance between this and the Magnificance? ~~~~

Anyone else see a resemblance between this and the Magnificance? [[User:Durge|Durge]] 12:20, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Optimus Prime (G1)

2011-03-09T16:46:54Z

Durge: /* Ongoing */ new section

Talk:Wildrider (Animated)

2011-03-05T14:55:23Z

Durge: /* Wrists */ new section

I'm not sure I understand the "director of the Stunticons" thing. What does it mean? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:43, 24 February 2011 (EST)
:From what Wyatt has said, the Stunticons are entertainers of a sort, a traveling stunt show. "Motormaster's Stunt Convoy" to be exact.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:45, 24 February 2011 (EST)

== Wrists ==

Do we know if they fixed the wrist issue for this toy? Would be disapointing to break a Botcon figure.
[[User:Durge|Durge]] 09:55, 5 March 2011 (EST)

In Darkest Knight

2011-02-28T01:02:10Z

Durge: /* Continuity errors */

{{episode
|series=BMtoon
|ep=17
|image=Silverboltbm.jpg
|caption=I'm Batman.
|title="In Darkest Knight"
|production company=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|airdate=[[March 1]], 2000
|written by=[[Steven Melching]]
|directed by=[[George Samilski]]
|animation studio=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|continuity=[[Beast Wars continuity]]
}}
'''Blackarachnia is finally able to revive Silverbolt, but he doesn't seem too happy about it.'''

:''French title:'' '''Une Sombre Nuit''' ("A Dark Night")
:''French-Canadian title:'' '''Sombre Chevalier''' ("Dark Knight")
:''Japanese title:'' '''野獣の恩返し''' (''Yajū no Ongaeshi'', "The Beast's Gratitude")
:''Spanish title:'' '''El Caballero en la Oscuridad'''
:''Brazillian title:'' '''O Cavaleiro das Trevas''' (''The Dark Knight'')

==Synopsis==
As the [[Grand Mal|big floating head]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s newest body, drifts overhead, [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]] searches through a derelict region of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] for his former friend, the organic [[Noble|Savage/Noble]]. However, his search is cut short by [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] and [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]].

[[Image:DarkestKnight Rattrap's invention.jpg|left|thumb|200px|"Behold my new invention: ''a LIGHT!''"]]
Back at the Maximal base, [[Rattrap]] talks to [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] about his newest invention, combining a [[spark extractor]] with a [[DNA scanner]]. This process, he hopes, could someday be used to restore any of the captured sparks they recover into Transformer bodies. [[Optimus Primal]] and [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] arrive, wondering what's happened to Nightscream. Nobody has seen him for a while, so the team head aboveground to find out where he's gone. However, Blackarachnia has a lingering fascination with Rattrap's new device.

The Maximals find Nightscream surrounded by a pack of [[Motorcycle Drone|cycle drones]] and other [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]]s. A fight to rescue their young member begins. Cheetor uses his blades to glide through the air, fighting the [[Sonic Attack Jet]]s all the while. Rattrap outraces several more cycle drones. Cooking up her own plot, Blackarachnia places Rattrap's device on Jetstorm, hoping to free his spark and reformat him.

Megatron, in his gigantic head, uses his gravity beams to capture Optimus and Cheetor, ending the conflict quickly. Nightscream is left behind, at the mercy of Thrust. Luckily, he is protected by Savage/Noble, who uses both of his tails to damage Thrust. Rattrap sees the strange dragon haul Nightscream's unconscious body away and, suspecting Savage intends to consume the younger Maximal, follows.

[[Image:DarkestKnight Silverbolt reflection.jpg|right|thumb|200px|"Kermit, I would like to have a word about injecting some culture into this show."]]
Blackarachnia leads Jetstorm deeper underground. The jet crashes through one of her webs and into a pool of [[organic goo|organic fluid]]. With the general restrained, the DNA scanner Blackarachnia placed onto him activates and begins to detect local fossils. The scanner passes by several other bones before locking onto a suitable candidate: a skeleton of a prehistoric, condor-like creature. After a painful metamorphosis, the Vehicon once known as Jetstorm is destroyed, and the [[Maximal]] [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] is reborn. He becomes aware of himself and is surprised by his new, [[technorganic]] form. Shocked, disgruntled, and angry, he flies out of the cave in which he was brought back, leaving a confused Blackarachnia behind.

Confronting the renegade Maximal atop a skyscraper, Blackarachnia discovers a change in her lover. Instead of the corny, phrase-spouting 'bot of prehistoric Earth, this new, angry Silverbolt loathes himself. Blackarachnia tries to remind the Maximal of the heroic personality he used to be, but Silverbolt (who is no longer silver) no longer has any connection to those ideals that once defined him. He comes along with Blackarachnia on a trip to rescue Optimus Primal and Cheetor not out of concern for his Maximal pals, but only as a way to confront his former master, Megatron.

Nightscream awakens in an abandoned warehouse, now serving as Savage/Noble's "den". The creature, in his "Noble" form, provides a metallic apple for Nightscream to feed on. Noble has lost his former mental skills, but still seems to like Nightscream and remember him. Rattrap tries to rescue Nightscream quietly but catches Noble's attention. Confused, Noble shifts into his Savage form, causing Nightscream and Rattrap to cheese it.

[[Image:DarkestKnight Optimus Cheetor interrogation.jpg|left|thumb|200px|"I'm a pepper! Don't you want to be a pepper, too?"]]
Inside of the Grand Mal, Cheetor and Optimus are interrogated for information on the Oracle and how Megatron can use it to manipulate the Sparks he holds captive. Blackarachnia and Silverbolt arrive in the same chamber, where Megatron manifests an image of himself, a hologram of the Grand Mal made out of floating masses of data. He explains why he selected Silverbolt's spark to be made into a new general: He believed Silverbolt's sense of honor would let him stay true to Megatron's Vehicon ideology. Blackarachnia argues, hoping Silverbolt understands that friendship and love are more important.

Silverbolt rejects Megatron's dogma and transforms into his new robot mode. His throwing blades heavily damage Megatron's insides. Freed, Primal orders a retreat, but Silverbolt feels it would be better to [[Furmanism|fight and die]]. Blackarachnia uses one of her abilities to stun him so she can drag him out.

[[Image:Blackarachniasilverboltdarkestknight.jpg|right|300px|thumb|A sunset on Cybertron? Crazy!]]
Rattrap and Nightscream are still running from Savage when they find Thrust and his drones standing in their way. The Maximals let Savage take care of the drones, while Silverbolt tosses away Thrust into the water. Primal welcomes Silverbolt back into the Maximals, but the bird just leaves the Maximals, not yet ready to be part of the team. Nightscream argues that Savage/Noble still has the qualities of a good guy inside of him, and Primal decides that the best thing to do is to wait.

That morning, sitting on a skyscraper, Blackarachnia and Silverbolt have another discussion, in which he reveals how he enjoyed being a Vehicon, without having to follow his code of honor. Despite this, Blackarachnia is still ready to reach out to him, and together they return to the Maximals.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Maximal]]s
|c1=
*[[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]] (2)
*[[Rattrap]] (5)
*[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] (6)
*[[Optimus Primal]] (7)
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (8)
*[[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] (11)

|h2=[[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]]s
|c2=
*[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] (1)
*[[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] (3)
*[[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] (4)
*[[Motorcycle Drone|Motorcycle Drones]] (9)
*[[Sonic Attack Jet|Sonic Attack Jets]] (10)

|c4=
*[[Noble]] (11)

}}

==Quotes==
"Nothing noble about us!" 
"But savage? We can do that!"
:—'''Thrust''' and '''Jetstorm'''

"I thought you losers were out of business!" 
"Guess again, bat brain! We're back on the winning team!"
:—'''Nightscream''' and '''Jetstorm'''

"You broke 'em, you bought 'em, kittycat!"
:—'''Jetstorm'''

"What do you want from us?" 
"Oh, nothing much. Just every bit of data on the Oracle to better understand how I can fully exploit the precious sparks in my possession. I anticipate that extracting this information will be slow, painful, and, regrettably...fatal."
:—'''Optimus Primal''' and '''Megatron'''

"How can you stand the sight of me? Look at what I've become!"
:–'''Silverbolt''' doesn't like his new design any more than the rest of us.

"Where do you think you're going? Do you have any idea what I went through to get you back again?"
:—The answer, '''Blackarachnia''', is, "You stole hardware from Rattrap, then kidnapped Jetstorm and brainwashed him."

"You helped me find the light once." 
"I was a fool back then. I ''believed'' in things."
:—'''Blackarachnia''' and '''Silverbolt'''

"Don't listen to him, Silverbolt! He turned you into a monster!" 
"I gave you strength. I gave you power." 
"We gave you friendship! I gave you my heart." 
"I gave you purpose. I gave you ''life!''" 
"''You... gave... me... '''NOTHING!!!'''''"
:-'''Blackarachnia''' and '''Megatron''' play Loyalty-tug-of-war with '''Silverbolt'''.

"Nobody's judging you. You were under Megatron's control. Join us, and you can avenge yourself." 
"You still don't get it, do you? I don't hate Megatron for what he made me do. He freed me from my code of honor, and I revelled in it. Don't you see? I… enjoyed it. I don't know what I am anymore." 
"You are what you've always been – honest, pure, virtuous to a fault." 
[''Blackarachnia takes Silverbolt's hand''] 
"You're taking a huge risk." 
"Considering how well I know the goodness in your heart, it really isn't a risk at all."
:—'''Blackarachnia''' and '''Silverbolt'''

==Notes==
===Animation or technical errors===
* The fossil scanned by Silverbolt is clearly a bat, not a condor, and is a reuse of the CGI model of the fossil Nightscream found in "[[Survivor]]".

===Continuity errors===
* Also, seeing as how Silverbolt looks virtually ''nothing'' like his previous form, it seems somewhat odd that [[Rattrap]] would instantly recognise him without being introduced.
* Remember how in "[[Revelations Part III: Apocalypse]]", Optimus said that changing Rhinox against his will is no better than Megatron? Or in "[[Crossing the Rubicon]]", when he said much the same thing about Blackarachnia herself? Well, either Blackarachnia [[Fallout|''doesn't'' remember]] or it's okay when Jetstorm/Silverbolt has a [[To sell toys|new toy]] out. Then again, going behind everyone's back to do her own thing is possibly the only in-character action she made in the entire show.
* Previously it was a major plot point to maintain robot mode. Now Nightscream is able to maintain robot form while unconscious. Good focus kid.
* Silverbolt is able to transform without any practice. This is not the [[Nightscream (BM)|first]] time, neither will it be the [[Botanica|last]].

===Trivia===
* Vehicons are a superstitious and cowardly lot.
* Regrettably, this episode has nothing to do with Green Lantern. Or Batman.
* This is one of only two episodes in the entire series to feature sunlight. Every other episode happens entirely at night. Wouldn't it be awesome if they did [[wikipedia:Ben_10:_Alien_Force|Ben 10]] that way?
* This is the last episode to show Jetstorm but Silverbolt would be called that name in the remaining episodes by Thrust
* While it's not explicitly saying so, this episode does give a reason for how ''Waspinator'' of all people could influence his Vehicon self to help Blackarachnia but her true love couldn't: it wasn't that he couldn't, he just didn't want to ''stop'' being a villain.
* Silverbolt had previously shown a non-chivalrous, dark side to him from time to time: most notably in "[[Crossing the Rubicon]]" where he intends to murder [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]].

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;DVD
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2005 — ''Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Returns'' — Volume 5 ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Geneon Entertainment]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2006 — ''Beast Machines: Transformers'' — The Complete Series ([[Rhino Entertainment|Rhinomation]]) 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''Transformers: Beast Machines'' — Season Two: Volume One ([[Sony]]) 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — ''Transformers: Beast Machines'' — Complete Season Two (Sony) 
[[Image:Flag of France.png|20px|France]] 2009 — ''Transformers: Beast Machines'' — Intégrale Saison 2 (Sony) — French audio only.

[[Category:Beast Machines episodes]]

Talk:Savage Noble

2011-02-27T19:14:33Z

Durge: Physics!

== Physics! ==

Correct me if i'm wrong but when Blackarachnia fails to enter the Grand Mal and falls from the sky at the begining of the episode she spins a parachute from her web. Except, being made from web, it has holes in it. Surely then the air would go right through and Blackarachnia would fall just as fast (and land just as hard) with physics laughing all the way down.
[[User:Durge|Durge]] 14:14, 27 February 2011 (EST)

The Transformers (toyline)

2011-02-08T16:28:51Z

Durge: /* Innovations and lasting effects */

{{disambig2|the original toyline|other uses of ''The Transformers''|Transformers (disambiguation)}}
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{{bigquote|Look! Two more Transformers to add to our collection!|[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] is excited to find [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]|"[[Starscream's Brigade]]"}}

'''''The Transformers''''' (retroactively called '''Generation One''' or '''G1''') started as a joint venture between two companies: [[Hasbro]] of America and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] of [[Japan]]. After an idea to rebrand and sell Takara's ''[[Diaclone]]'' and ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]'' [[Toy|robot toys]] as a whole new line with a new concept behind it, Hasbro unknowingly would wind up creating what would be one of its longest-running [[franchise]]s.

[[Image:Seekers ad.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Ahh, 1984's book of dreams.]]

In contrast to today's franchises, which tend by design to run 12 to 18 months, ''Generation 1'' was essentially an unbroken line from 1984 to 1991; its logo and packaging format only underwent one major change in that time. Toys tended to linger longer in the line; a few (Starscream, Bumblebee) were even sold for three years in a row (the record for non-re-issues is four years, set by cassettes [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Rewind]], [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]], [[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]], and [[Eject]]). The changing circumstances of retail have made this a thing of the past; toy lines now require yearly rebranding.

The ''Generation 1'' line introduced a number of concepts which would stay with subsequent iterations of the brand. Most prominent among these were [[package art]] showing the character's robot form, [[Tech Spec]]s rating the character's abilities, [[bio]]s giving a personality profile of the character represented by the toy, and (in the Japanese toylines) [[Japanese ID number list|ID numbers]] for each figure to identify them. Other "premiums" which didn't survive the 1980s included [[Robot Point]]s and various mail order exclusives.

In addition to the toy and its weapons and accessories, ''Generation 1'' toys typically included a sticker sheet, instructions showing how to transform the toy and apply the stickers, and a [[Catalog|toy catalog flyer]] showing the entire year's toy line. In the early years of the line, a red plastic "tech spec decoder" and various [[Pack-in material#Mail-order flyers|mail-away offers]] were included as well.

The line began with toys already designed by Takara and other companies, but over time it expanded into numerous original designs and concepts. While its run ostensibly ended after seven years with the advent of ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'', it was resurrected almost a decade later in Japan via the ''[[Transformers Collection]]'' line of reissues, supplemented by [[e-Hobby]]-exclusive reissues and new creations. A year later, Hasbro began retooling many of those reissues and selling them in North America as the ''[[Commemorative Series]]''. Even after Hasbro discontinued that line, TakaraTomy continued selling reissues under the ''[[Encore]]'' label. This toyline has changed direction and focus so many times that a year-by-year breakdown is the only way to get the full picture.

See also:

* Japanese ''Generation 1'' mini-franchise toylines:
** 1985—''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]''
** 1986—''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (toyline)]]''
** 1987—''[[The Headmasters (toyline)]]''
** 1988—''[[Super-God Masterforce (toyline)]]''
** 1989—''[[Victory (toyline)]]''
** 1990—''[[Zone (toyline)]]''
** 1991—''[[Return of Convoy (toyline)]]''
** 1992—''[[Operation Combination (toyline)]]''

* ''[[Generation 1 (European toyline)]]''
* ''[[Generation 1 (Chinese toyline)]]''

==1984==
===Overview===
[[Image:G1Prowl toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Prowl, one of the 1984 line's more iconic toys. In today's secondary market, he's usually found with his roof broken off. Prowl was redecorated to make two other characters as well, which was pretty common in the first two years.]]
The first two years of ''Transformers'' product in America mostly consisted of toys from the two Takara lines. A wide range of sizes and price points, from $3 Mini-Vehicles up to larger toys costing $20 or more, ensured that every kid could pick up at least a few Transformers, and still have a few left for the Christmas wishlist -- a marketing strategy that continues up to the present day.

The early G1 toys were largely marked by attention to vehicle mode detail, rubber tires, the frequent use of [[die-cast]] metal (particularly on larger toys), and a variety of loose parts which had to be kept track of and attached separately. The early toys were also marked by a lack of posability -- not a single one of the [[Autobot Cars|Autobot cars]] had knee joints, and most had feet that were fused together. The Decepticon jets couldn't do anything but raise their arms forward.

The combination of heavy die-cast and the brittle plastics of the time also made many of the toys fragile; toys such as Prowl and Mirage are infamous for winding up broken.

Due to products coming from different pre-existing product lines, the 1984 toys were highly inconsistent in terms of relative [[scale]]. Later years would not do much to mitigate this issue.

Many of the 1984 toys included the pack-in brochure [[Reinforcements from Cybertron!]]

===Autobots===
'''Autobot [[Mini Vehicle|Mini-Cars]]'''

{{columnlist|3|
* [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]]
* [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]
* [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]]
* [[Gears (G1)|Gears]]
* [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]
* [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]}}

{{note|Although the official catalogs and the box artwork depict Bumblebee in yellow and Cliffjumper in red, both toys were actually available in both colors. Additionally, a third toy of a similar design was also available in yellow, and sold on Cliffjumper cards. That toy was not officially marketed by Hasbro as a separate character, but was later dubbed "Bumblejumper" by fans, which was shortened to just "[[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]]" by the time he was officially integrated into the fiction as a character in his own right.}}

'''[[Autobot Cars]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]]
* [[Hound (G1)|Hound]]
* [[Ironhide (G1)/toys|Ironhide]]
* [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Jazz]]
* [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]]
* [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]]
* [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]
* [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]
* [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]
* [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys|Wheeljack]]}}

'''Autobot Commander'''
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]]

===Decepticons===
'''Decepticon [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Cassettes]]'''
* [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] & [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (available as a two-pack)
* [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] & [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]] (available as a two-pack)

{{note|Another Decepticon Cassette, Buzzsaw, was available with Soundwave.}}

[[Image:Redeco.jpg|right|150px|thumb|L to R: Skywarp, Starscream, Thundercracker]]

'''Decepticon [[Seeker (body-type)|Planes]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]
* [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]}}

'''Decepticon Communications'''
* [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] (with [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]])

'''Decepticon Leader'''
* [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron]]

{{-}}

==1985==
:''For the toyline released in Japan this year comprising many of these toys and the 1984 figures, see: [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)]]''

===Overview===
[[Image:1985catalogue-diorama.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The 80s! When toy companies actively encouraged you to play with fire!]]

The initial toyline was wildly successful, making "Transformers" a household word for the rest of the 1980s and leading to an ever-expanding product line. 1985's offerings more than doubled those of 1984. Additional cars, jets, and mini-vehicles were released; many of the standard cars and jets were retooled versions of 1984 toys (or of each other, in the case of Grapple and Inferno.)

The line also veered into mechanical dinosaurs and insects, and futuristic vehicles. Some of these toys were designed and manufactured by companies in competition with Takara, among them Jetfire, the Deluxe Insecticons and the Deluxe Vehicles. These toys are among the few G1 toys with good articulation. However, their conflicting origins doomed most of them never to appear in the cartoon, as Takara did not wish to sponsor a show advertising its competitor's products. See ''[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]'' for more.

This year's toys primary pack-in brochures were "[[Earthlings: THE S.T.A.R.S. need your help now!]], and later [[Have the Decepticons defeated us once and for all?]].

In 1985, the Transformers line (with a few deletions) was ported back to Japan, as [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]].

===Autobots===
'''Autobot [[Mini Vehicle|Mini Vehicles]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]]
* [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]]
* [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]]
* [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]]
* [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]}}

{{note|The "Mini-Cars" were renamed into "Mini-Vehicles" beginning with 1985. The 1984 Mini-Cars/Mini-Vehicles were re-released. 1985 Mini-Vehicles were briefly available with extra [[Mini-spy|Mini-Spies]], later replaced the Autobot symbols with rubsigns like the ones first featured on the Mini-Spies, and later shipments of the rubsign versions were available with iron-on patches. The versions of Bumblebee and Cliffjumper that came with the Mini-Spies were available in both yellow and red; the rubsign versions still featured color variants. The Bumper mold was no longer available.}}

'''[[Autobot Cars]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]]
* [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]
* [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]
* [[Skids (G1)|Skids]]
* [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]]
* [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]
* [[Grapple]]}}

{{note|The 1984 Autobot Cars were re-released. All 1985 Autobot Cars sported rubsigns. The European version of Tracks released by Milton Bradley was originally available in red.}}

'''[[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
*[[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]]
*[[Slag (G1)|Slag]]
*[[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]
*[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]]
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]]}}

'''[[Jumpstarter|Jumpstarters]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
*[[Topspin (G1)|Topspin]]
*[[Twin Twist]]}}

'''Autobot [[Deluxe Vehicle|Deluxe Vehicles]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
*[[Roadbuster]]
*[[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]]}}

'''Autobot Air Guardian'''
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]

'''Autobot Communicator'''
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]

'''Autobot Scientist'''
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]

'''Autobot Motorized Defense Base'''
*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]

'''[[Powerdasher]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* "Drill Type"
* "F-1 Type"
* "Jet Type"}}

{{note|The Powerdashers were only available via mail-order. Figure names are in quotes because these figures were not officially named. Names are taken from the Diaclone versions.}}

'''[[Omnibot (G1)|Omnibots]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
*[[Camshaft (G1)|Camshaft]]
*[[Downshift (G1)|Downshift]]
*[[Overdrive]]}}

{{note|The Omnibots were only available via mail order.}}

'''Promotional toys'''
* "[[PepsiCo|Pepsi]]" Optimus Prime

{{note|A limited-edition variant of Optimus Prime was available with additional "Pepsi" stickers on the trailer. The [[Canada|Canadian]] version sported yet another variant with a large sticker covering the entire side of the trailer.}}

* "Cookie Crisp" Jazz

{{note|A variant of the Jazz toy was available as a Cookie Crisp promotional premium via mail order. Unlike the regular version, the "Martini" decals are missing from the doors.}}

====Notes====
* The entire 1984 lineup was still available in 1985, only now sporting [[rubsign]]s.
* Curiously, though animation models exist, Topspin and Twin Twist were also not shown in the cartoon, or even animated for commercials.

===Decepticons===
'''[[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]
* [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]]
* [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]}}

'''[[Insecticon (G1)|Deluxe Insecticons]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Barrage (Insecticon)|Barrage]]
* [[Chop Shop]]
* [[Ransack (G1)|Ransack]]
* [[Venom (G1)|Venom]]}}

'''[[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]]
* [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]]
* [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]]
* [[Hook (G1)|Hook]]
* [[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]]
* [[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]]
* [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (giftset)}}

'''[[Triple Changer]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]}}

'''Decepticon [[Seeker (body-type)|Planes]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]}}

'''Decepticon Military Operations Commander'''
*[[Shockwave (G1)/toys|Shockwave]]

====Notes====
* The entire 1984 assortment of Decepticons was still available in 1985, in updated packaging, now also sporting rubsigns.
* The Deluxe Insecticons made no appearances in the animated series.

==1986==
:''For the nearly-identical toyline (minus Sky Lynx) released in Japan this year, see: [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers 2010 (toyline)]]''

===Overview===
[[Image:Protectobots-collectallfive.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Collect all five! The little ones are cheap, and you can bug your mom to buy you the big one!]]
1986 broke more ground with multiple [[combiner]] teams, two large "city" robots, and a full-length feature film to push a new crop of toys. By this point, Hasbro had gone through almost all of the "suitable" ''Diaclone'' and ''Microman'' toys, and were using up the last of the pre-existing (yet previously unmade) Takara design concepts, mostly in the form of the [[Scramble City]] combiner teams and the two citybots; thus the toys for ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' became the first original designs developed by Hasbro (and also the first of a ''very'' few times that characters' in-fiction designs predated their toy designs). That year also marked the end of rubber tires and die-cast metal in the toys, as shipping and manufacturing costs dictated an all-plastic approach; many toys from that year were available both with and without rubber and die-cast. Though many fans regard this as a drop in quality, it had the effect of creating much sturdier toys.

Starting with 1986, the first Transformers toys - the Mini-Cassettes, the Triple Changers, the newly introduced Special Teams Mini-Vehicles and the [[Special Teams]] Large Vehicles - were available in mixed assortments that contained both Autobot and Decepticon characters. The 1986 toys are still listed as Autobots and Decepticons for simplicity's sake.

Some assortments of the movie character toys included one of four free [[posters]] promoting the [[Decipher the Decepticon]] contest. Many toys included the S.T.A.R.S. advertisement [[You Have Been Chosen.]] Mini Vehicles included an iron-on patch promoting the [[Prizes in Disguise]] contest.

===Autobots===
'''Autobot [[Mini Vehicle|Mini-Vehicles]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]]
* [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]]
* [[Outback]]
* [[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]]
* [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]
* [[Tailgate]]}}

{{note|Bumblebee, Beachcomber, Seaspray, Cosmos, Powerglide and Warpath were re-released. All twelve 1986 Mini-Vehicles were alternatively available with or without an iron-on patch.}}

'''Autobot [[Autobot Mini-Cassette|Mini-Cassettes]]'''
* [[Rewind]] & [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] (available as a two-pack)
* [[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]] & [[Eject]] (available as a two-pack)

'''[[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]]
* [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]]
* [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]]
* [[Slingshot]]
* [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]
* [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (giftset)}}

'''[[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]]
* [[Groove (G1)|Groove]]
* [[Blades (G1)|Blades]]
* [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]]
* [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]]
* [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (giftset)}}

{{note|The smaller Aerialbots and Protectobots were alternatively available with or without an iron-on patch. Silverbolt and Hot Spot have never been found with a poster.}}

'''[[Triple Changer]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Springer (G1)|Springer]]
* [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]
* [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]}}

{{note|All 1986 Triple Changers were alternatively available with or without a poster.}}

'''[[Autobot Cars]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]]
* [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Hot Rod]]
* [[Kup (G1)|Kup]]}}

{{note|All three 1986 Autobot Cars were alternatively available with or without a poster.}}

'''Heroes'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Rodimus Prime]]
* [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]]}}

'''Autobot [[City Commander|City Commander]]'''
* [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys|Ultra Magnus]]

{{note|A variant version of Ultra Magnus was available exclusively from KB Toys stores, replacing the diecast parts and rubber tires with plastic parts and sporting unpainted heads.}}

'''Motorized Autobot Space Shuttle'''
* [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]

'''Autobot [[City-bot|City]]'''
* [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] with [[Six-Gun]], [[Slammer]], and [[Scamper]]

====Notes====
* A limited edition version of Optimus Prime was available with a "Movie Edition" certificate.
* Sunstreaker, Mirage, Ratchet and Wheeljack, none of which were shipping to regular stores anymore by this point, were made available again via mail order.

===Decepticons===
'''Decepticon [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Mini-Cassettes]]'''
* [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] & Frenzy (available as a two-pack)

{{note|Frenzy was a re-release of the 1986 Decepticon Cassette, now available as a two-pack with the new mold Ratbat rather than with Laserbeak. The two-pack of Ravage and Rumble was also re-released.}}

'''[[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]]
* [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]
* [[Wildrider]]
* [[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]]
* [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]
* [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] (giftset)}}

'''[[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]
* [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]]
* [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]]
* [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]
* [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]}}

{{note|While packaged samples might exist, Bruticus was presumably never officially released in giftset form in the USA. The smaller Stunticons and Combaticons were alternatively available with or without an iron-on patch. Motormaster and Onslaught have never been found with a poster.}}

'''[[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]
* [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]]
* [[Headstrong]]
* [[Tantrum]]
* [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]]}}

{{note|Predaking was never available in giftset form outside of Japan.}}

'''[[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]]'''
* [[Gnaw]]

{{note|All five Predacons as well as Gnaw were alternatively available with or without a poster.}}

'''[[Triple Changer]]s'''
* [[Octane]]

{{note|Blitzwing and Astrotrain were re-released. All 1986 Triple Changers were alternatively available with or without a poster, and Astrotrain and Blitzwing are very difficult to find.}}

'''Decepticon Planes'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]
* [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]}}

{{note|Starscream, Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust were re-released. Only Scourge and Cyclonus have been found with or without a poster. The other four jets in the asortment have never been found with a poster.}}

'''[[Battlecharger]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Runabout]]
* [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]]}}

'''Decepticon [[City Commander]]'''
* [[Galvatron (G1)/toys|Galvatron]]

'''Motorized Decepticon [[City-bot|City]]'''
* [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] with [[Brunt (G1)|Brunt]] and [[Full-Tilt]]

'''[[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
*[[Spectro]]
*[[Spyglass]]
*[[Viewfinder]]}}

{{note|Reflector was only available via mail order.}}

====Notes====
* A limited edition version of Megatron was available with a "Movie Edition" certificate.
* Thundercracker, who was no longer shipping to regular stores by this point, was made available again via mail order.

==1987==
:''For the marginally different toyline released in Japan this year, see: [[The Headmasters (toyline)]]''

===Overview===
[[Image:Technobots-specialteams.jpg|right|250px|thumb|28 dollars?! But in 1987, that was like... um... factor inflation... multiply by 2.1314159... carry the 1... um... a LOT!]]

1987 was dominated by two sublines, the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster]]s. It also marked the peak of the line's ambition, as it introduced the two-foot-tall [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] toy -- still the largest Transformer ever produced and, at nearly $100 in 1987 dollars, still one of the most expensive.

At the other end of the price scale, the $3 Mini-Vehicles of previous years were replaced by the [[Throttlebot]]s. Apart from them, the line was dominated for the first time by fictional vehicle modes (variously explained as "Cybertronian" or "futuristic") and mechanical monsters and beasts.

The smaller carded toys were sometimes available with a rubber [[decoy]] figure, as well as a bonus mini-comic. Larger toys included the pack-in mail-away brochure [[Digital Doom on the Highway to Destruction]].

===Autobots===
'''[[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Afterburner (G1)|Afterburner]]
* [[Nosecone (G1)|Nosecone]]
* [[Strafe (G1)|Strafe]]
* [[Lightspeed (G1 Technobot)|Lightspeed]]
* [[Scattershot (G1)|Scattershot]]
* [[Computron (G1)|Computron]] (giftset)}}

{{note|The Aerialbots and Protectobots were also re-released. All individual Aerialbots, Protectobots and Technobots were alternatively available with or without a rubber decoy.}}

'''[[Throttlebot]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Goldbug]]
* [[Chase (G1)|Chase]]
* [[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]]
* [[Searchlight (G1)|Searchlight]]
* [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]]
* [[Wide Load]]}}

{{note|The Throttlebots were alternatively available with or without a rubber decoy.}}

'''Autobot [[Clone (subgroup)|Clones]]'''
* [[Fastlane]] & [[Cloudraker (G1)|Cloudraker]] (available as a two-pack)

'''Autobot [[:Category:Spies|Double Spy]]'''
* [[Punch (G1)|Punch-Counterpunch]]

'''[[Monsterbot]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Grotusque]]
* [[Doublecross]]
* [[Repugnus (G1)|Repugnus]]}}

'''Large [[Targetmaster]] Autobots'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Pointblank]] with [[Peacemaker]]
* [[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] with [[Spoilsport]]
* [[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]] with [[Pinpointer (G1)|Pinpointer]]
* [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] with [[Haywire]]
* [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] with [[Recoil]]
* [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Hot Rod]] with [[Firebolt]]}}

'''Large [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] Autobots'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] with [[Stylor]]
* [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] with [[Duros]]
* [[Brainstorm]] with [[Arcana]]
* [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] with [[Gort]]}}

'''Headmaster Autobot [[City-bot|Base]]'''
* [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] with [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]], [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] and [[Cog (G1)|Cog/Gasket/Grommet]]

====Notes====
Metroplex, Rodimus Prime, Wreck-Gar, Ultra Magnus and Sky Lynx were also still available. The Autobot Mini-Cassette two-packs of Rewind/Steeljaw and Ramhorn/Eject were re-released.

===Decepticons===
'''[[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]]'''
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* [[Rippersnapper (G1)|Rippersnapper]]
* [[Sinnertwin (G1)|Sinnertwin]]
* [[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]]
* [[Blot (G1)|Blot]]
* [[Hun-Gurrr]]}}

{{note|[[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] was never officially released in giftset form in the USA.}}

{{note|The Stunticons and Combaticons were also re-released. All individual Stunticons, Combaticons and Terrorcons were alternatively available with or without a rubber decoy.}}

'''Decepticon [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Mini-Cassettes]]'''
* [[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]] & [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]] (available as a two-pack)

{{note|The two-pack of Ratbat and Frenzy was also re-released.}}

'''[[Duocon]]s'''
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* [[Battletrap]]
* [[Flywheels]]}}

'''Decepticon [[Clone (subgroup)|Clones]]'''
* [[Pounce]] & [[Wingspan]] (available as a two-pack)

'''Decepticon [[Six Changer]]'''
* [[Sixshot]]

'''Large [[Targetmaster]] Decepticons'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Triggerhappy]] with [[Blowpipe (G1)|Blowpipe]]
* [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]] with [[Caliburst (G1)|Caliburst]]
* [[Misfire]] with [[Aimless]]
* [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] with [[Nightstick (Cyclonus)|Nightstick]]
* [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] with [[Fracas]]}}

'''Large [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] Decepticons'''
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* [[Skullcruncher]] with [[Grax]]
* [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] with [[Vorath]]
* [[Weirdwolf]] with [[Monzo]]}}

'''Headmaster [[Horrorcon]]s'''
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* [[Apeface]] with [[Spasma]]
* [[Snapdragon (G1)|Snapdragon]] with [[Krunk]]}}

'''Headmaster Decepticon [[City-bot|Base]]'''
* [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] with [[Zarak (Nebulan)|Zarak]] and [[Fasttrack (Scorponok)|Fasttrack]]

====Notes====
Galvatron, Trypticon, the Predacons and the Sharkticon figure Gnaw were also still available.

==1988==
:''For the noticeably different toyline released in Japan this year, see: [[Super-God Masterforce (toyline)]]''

===Overview===
[[Image:G1Bomb-Burst toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Bomb-Burst, a typical full-sized Pretender.]]
[[Image:PowermasterOptimusPrime toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Finally! They're selling Optimus Prime again!]]
1988 introduced a new logo design and tagline (More... MUCH more than meets the eye), but otherwise continued the directions of 1987, with a new line of Headmasters and the new [[Powermaster]] gimmicks, and a mixture of realistic and fanciful vehicle forms.

1988 also introduced the [[Pretender]]s, bringing non-transforming figures into the line for the first time. The Pretenders tended to have ''very'' simplified transformations and often unconvincing vehicle modes, though their designs make them among the most well-articulated of all G1 toys. The outer shells, by contrast, rarely featured any articulation beyond a swivel joint at the shoulders.

Other sublines of note included the [[Triggercon]]s, [[Triggerbot]]s, [[Sparkabot]]s and [[Firecon]]s, which took the Throttlebots' place as the line's low-end offerings.

G1 tended to be extremely non-self referential; until 1988, only one existing character, Bumblebee, had ever been revived with a new toy after having his older toy discontinued. That year, however, Hasbro seemingly began to realize the strength of the characters they had developed, as the line featured the return of Optimus Prime in Powermaster form following his death in ''Transformers: The Movie'' two years prior. The following two years would see more 1984/1985 characters return in Pretender and Action Master form.

This year's toys included the pack-in mail-away brochure [[The Autobots Are Under Attack!]].

===Autobots===
'''[[Sparkabot]]s'''
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* [[Fizzle]]
* [[Sizzle (G1)|Sizzle]]
* [[Guzzle (G1)|Guzzle]]}}

'''[[Triggerbot]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Backstreet (G1)|Backstreet]]
* [[Override (G1)|Override]]
* [[Dogfight]]}}

'''Autobot [[Autobot Mini-Cassette|Cassettes]]'''
* [[Grand Slam (G1)|Grand Slam]] & [[Raindance]] (available as a two-pack)

{{note|The Rewind/Steeljaw and Ramhorn/Eject two-packs were also re-released once again.}}

'''Small [[Targetmaster]] Autobots'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Landfill (G1)|Landfill]] with [[Flintlock]] and [[Silencer]]
* [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]] with [[Boomer]] and [[Ricochet (Nebulan)|Ricochet]]
* [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]] with [[Holepunch (G1)|Holepunch]] and [[Tracer (Nebulan)|Tracer]]}}

{{note|The Large Targetmaster Autobots Pointblank, Sureshot and Crosshairs were also still available.}}

'''Small [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] Autobots'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] with [[Muzzle]]
* [[Siren]] with [[Quig]]
* [[Hosehead]] with [[Lug]]}}

{{note|The Large Headmaster Autobots Chromedome, Hardhead, Brainstorm and Highbrow and the Headmaster Autobot Base Fortress Maximus were also still available.}}

'''[[Powermaster]] Autobots'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Getaway]] with [[Rev]]
* [[Slapdash (G1)|Slapdash]] with [[Lube]]
* [[Joyride (Autobot)|Joyride]] with [[Hotwire]]}}

'''Powermaster Autobot Leader'''
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] with [[Hi-Q]]

'''Autobot [[Six Changer]]'''
* [[Quickswitch]]

'''Large Autobot [[Pretender]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Landmine (G1)|Landmine]]
* [[Cloudburst]]
* [[Waverider]]
* [[Groundbreaker]]
* [[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]]
* [[Splashdown]]}}

'''Autobot [[Pretender Beast]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Chainclaw (G1)|Chainclaw]]
* [[Catilla]]}}

'''Autobot [[Pretender Vehicle]]s'''
* [[Gunrunner (G1)|Gunrunner]]

====Notes====
The Autobot Double Spy Punch-Counterpunch, the Autobot Clones two-pack of Fastlane/Cloudraker and the Monsterbots Grotusque, Doublecross and Repugnus were also still available. The Technobots were re-released.

===Decepticons===
'''[[Firecon]]s'''

{{columnlist|3|
* [[Cindersaur]]
* [[Flamefeather]]
* [[Sparkstalker]]}}

'''[[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]
* [[Seawing (G1)|Seawing]]
* [[Nautilator]]
* [[Skalor]]
* [[Tentakil (G1)|Tentakil]]
* [[Snaptrap (G1)|Snaptrap]]
* [[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]] (giftset)}}

{{note|The Piranacon giftset only included five of the six individual Seacons; Nautilator was left out for reasons unknown.}}

{{note|The Terrorcons were also re-released.}}

'''[[Triggercon]]s'''
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* [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]]
* [[Ruckus (G1)|Ruckus]]
* [[Windsweeper]]}}

'''Decepticon Cassettes'''
* [[Squawktalk]] & [[Beastbox (G1)|Beastbox]] (available as a two-pack)

{{note|The Slugfest/Overkill two-pack was also re-released.}}

'''Small [[Targetmaster]] Decepticons'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] with [[Hairsplitter]] and [[Singe]]
* [[Needlenose]] with [[Sunbeam]] and [[Zigzag]]
* [[Quake (G1)|Quake]] with [[Tiptop]] and [[Heater]]}}

{{note|The Large Targetmaster Decepticons Triggerhappy, Slugslinger and Misfire were also still available.}}

'''Small [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] Decepticons'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Horri-Bull]] with [[Kreb]]
* [[Fangry]] with [[Brisko]]
* [[Squeezeplay]] with [[Lokos]]}}

{{note|The Large Headmaster Decepticons Skullcruncher, Mindwipe and Weirdwolf, the Headmaster Horrorcons Apeface and Snapdragon and the Headmaster Decepticon Base Scorponok were also still available.}}

'''[[Powermaster]] Decepticons'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] with [[Hi-Test]]
* [[Darkwing]] with [[Throttle (G1)|Throttle]]}}

'''Powermaster Mercenary'''
* [[Doubledealer]] with [[Knok]] and [[Skar]]

'''Large Decepticon [[Pretender]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Skullgrin]]
* [[Bomb-Burst (G1)|Bomb-Burst]]
* [[Submarauder (G1)|Submarauder]]
* [[Iguanus (G1)|Iguanus]]
* [[Bugly]]
* [[Finback]]}}

'''Decepticon [[Pretender Beast]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]]
* [[Snarler]]}}

'''Decepticon [[Pretender Vehicle]]s'''
* [[Roadgrabber]]

====Notes====
The Deception Clones two-pack of Pounce/Wingspan and the Decepticon Six Changer Sixshot were also still available.

==1989==
:''For the totally different toyline released in Japan this year, see: [[Victory (toyline)]]''

===Overview===
[[Image:G1Thunderwing toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Thunderwing, a Mega Pretender. This toy commands shocking secondary market prices as a result of the character's prominent appearances in the later Generation 1 comics.]]
By 1989, Hasbro's Transformers releases had been effectively split into two almost distinct sub-lines - Pretenders and Micromasters - that were available concurrently, a separation that was stronger from a marketing standpoint than the Autobot/Decepticon distinction from previous years.

The Pretender subline expanded to include [[Pretender Monster|a combiner team]] and increasingly complex gimmicks, including robots with multiple shells, and outer shells which could transform themselves and even combine with their inner robots.

The 1-inch-tall [[Micromaster]]s attempted to capitalize on the popularity of the Micro Machine toyline. They were originally sold in carded 4-member "patrols", and later with various bases and vehicles. Micromasters tended to have realistically styled vehicle forms. Though the first five patrols featured relatively diverse transformation schemes, as the subline proliferated, their designs would become extremely standardized.

===Pretenders===
====Autobots====
'''Small Autobot [[Pretender]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Pincher]]
* [[Doubleheader]]
* [[Longtooth]]}}

'''Autobot [[Pretender Classic]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]]
* [[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]]
* [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Jazz]]}}

'''Autobot [[Legends (G1)|Legends]]'''
{{columnlist|3|
* Bumblebee
* Grimlock
* Jazz}}

{{note|The Legends figures were identical to the Pretender Classics' inner robots, but lacking the Pretender shell. They were exclusively available from KMart stores. Curiously, Jazz and Bumblebee appear to have switched weapons.}}

'''Autobot [[Mega Pretender]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]]
* [[Vroom]]}}

'''Autobot [[Ultra Pretender]]s'''
* [[Skyhammer (G1)|Skyhammer]]

=====Notes=====
* Powermaster Optimus Prime, the Autobot Cassette two-packs of Rewind/Steeljaw, Ramhorn/Eject and Grand Slam/Raindance and the Large Autobot Pretenders were also still available.

====Decepticons====
'''[[Pretender Monster]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Icepick (G1)|Icepick]]
* [[Bristleback]]
* [[Wildfly]]
* [[Scowl]]
* [[Slog]]
* [[Birdbrain]]}}

'''Small Decepticon [[Pretender]]s'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Octopunch]]
* [[Stranglehold]]
* [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]}}

'''Decepticon [[Pretender Classic]]s'''
* [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]

'''Decepticon [[Legends (G1)|Legends]]'''
* Starscream

{{note|The Legends figures were identical to the Pretender Classics' inner robots, but lacking the Pretender shell. They were exclusively available from KMart stores.}}

'''Decepticon [[Mega Pretender]]s'''
* [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]

'''Decepticon [[Ultra Pretender]]s'''
* [[Roadblock (G1)|Roadblock]]

=====Notes=====
* The Decepticon Cassette two-packs of Slugfest/Overkill and Squawktalk/Beastbox and the Large Decepticon Pretenders were also still available.

===Micromasters===
[[Image:Micromaster-sportscarpatrol-toys.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Here a novelty; soon an infestation.]]
====Autobots====
'''[[Micromaster]] Autobot Patrols'''
* [[Off Road Patrol]] ([[Highjump (G1)|Highjump]], [[Mudslinger (G1)|Mudslinger]], [[Powertrain]] & [[Tote]])
* [[Race Car Patrol]] ([[Tailspin]], [[Free Wheeler]], [[Roadhandler (G1)|Roadhandler]] & [[Swindler]])
* [[Rescue Patrol]] ([[Seawatch]], [[Stakeout (G1)|Stakeout]], [[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]] & [[Red Hot]])
* [[Battle Patrol]] ([[Big Shot]], [[Sidetrack]], [[Sunrunner]] & [[Flak (G1)|Flak]])

'''Micromaster Autobot [[Micromaster Transport|Transports]]'''
* [[Erector]] (with [[Crane]])
* [[Overload (G1)|Overload]] (with [[Car carrier trailer]])

'''Micromaster Autobot Stations'''
* [[Hot House]] (with [[Fire station]])
* [[Ironworks]] (with [[Construction station]])

'''Micromaster Autobot Bases'''
* [[Groundshaker]] (with [[ATV]])

'''Micromaster Autobot Rocket Base'''
* [[Countdown (G1)|Countdown]] (with [[Rocket Base|Rocket base]])

====Decepticons====
'''Micromaster Decepticon Patrols'''
* [[Air Strike Patrol]] ([[Nightflight (G1)|Nightflight]], [[Storm Cloud (G1)|Storm Cloud]], [[Whisper (G1)|Whisper]] & [[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]])
* [[Sports Car Patrol]] ([[Detour (G1)|Detour]], [[Blackjack]], [[Hyperdrive (Micromaster)|Hyperdrive]] & [[Road Hugger (G1)|Road Hugger]])

'''Micromaster Decepticon [[Micromaster Transport|Transports]]'''
* [[Flattop (Decepticon)|Flattop]] (with [[Aircraft carrier]])
* [[Roughstuff]] (with [[Military transport]])

'''Micromaster Decepticon Stations'''
* [[Greasepit (G1)|Greasepit]] (with [[Gas station]])
* [[Airwave]] (with [[Airport]])

'''Micromaster Decepticon Bases'''
* [[Skyhopper]] (with [[Helicopter]])

'''Micromaster Decepticon Jet Command Center'''
* [[Skystalker (G1)|Skystalker]] (with [[Interstellar shuttle]])

==1990==
:''For the totally different toyline released in Japan this year, see: [[Zone (toyline)]]''

===Overview===
[[Image:Actionmaster Jazz.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Action Master Jazz, reintroducing a character from the line's early years.]]
Like 1989 before, 1990 also effectively saw two almost distinct Transformers sub-lines being available concurrently: the vastly-expanded Micromasters, and the non-transforming [[Action Master]] figures. The Micromasters came both in the $5 carded patrols and with transforming bases, some of which were quite large. The Actionmasters likewise came as carded figures with small transforming partners, and also with larger boxed vehicles.

The [[Generation 1 (European toyline)|European version of the "G1" line]], which continued after Hasbro had abruptly cancelled the line in the USA, would furthermore add the "Classics" sub-line to the mix.

Waning popularity led to the line's cancellation at this point; ''Transformers'' disappeared from shelves for two years, not returning until the debut of ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''.

===Micromasters===
====Autobots====
'''[[Micromaster]] Autobot Patrols'''
* [[Construction Patrol]] ([[Neutro]], [[Groundpounder]], [[Crumble]] & [[Takedown]])
* [[Air Patrol]] ([[Sky High (Micromaster)|Sky High]], [[Eagle Eye (G1)|Eagle Eye]], [[Blaze Master]] & [[Tread Bolt]])
* [[Monster Truck Patrol]] ([[Hydraulic]], [[Slow Poke]], [[Big Hauler]] & [[Heavy Tread]])
* [[Hot Rod Patrol]] ([[Big Daddy (G1)|Big Daddy]], [[Trip-Up]], [[Greaser]] & [[Hubs]])

'''Micromaster Autobot Combiner Squads'''
* [[Metro Squad]] ([[Wheel Blaze]], [[Roadburner]], [[Oiler]], [[Slide]], [[Power Run]] & [[Strikedown]])
* [[Astro Squad]] ([[Phaser]], [[Blast Master]], [[Moonrock]], [[Missile Master]], [[Barrage (Micromaster)|Barrage]] & [[Heave]])

'''Micromaster Autobot [[Micromaster Combiner Transport|Combiner Transports]]'''
* [[Missile Launcher]] (with [[Retro]] & [[Surge (G1)|Surge]])
* [[Tanker Truck]] (with [[Pipeline]] & [[Gusher]])

'''Micromaster Combiner Autobot Battlefield Headquarters'''
* [[Battlefield Headquarters]] with [[Full-Barrel]] & [[Overflow]]

=====Notes=====
* The Micromaster Transports Overload and Erector, the Micromaster Stations Hot House and Ironworks and the Micromaster Autobot Rocket Base Countdown were also still available.

====Decepticons====
'''[[Micromaster]] Decepticon Patrols'''
* [[Race Track Patrol]] ([[Roller Force]], [[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]], [[Ground Hog]] & [[Motorhead (Decepticon)|Motorhead]])
* [[Military Patrol]] ([[Bombshock (G1)|Bombshock]], [[Tracer (Decepticon)|Tracer]], [[Dropshot (G1)|Dropshot]] & [[Growl (G1)|Growl]])

'''Micromaster Decepticon Combiner Squads'''
* [[Battle Squad]] ([[Meltdown (G1)|Meltdown]], [[Half-Track (G1)|Half-Track]], [[Direct-Hit (G1)|Direct-Hit]], [[Power Punch (G1)|Power Punch]], [[Fireshot (G1)|Fireshot]] & [[Vanquish (G1)|Vanquish]])
* [[Constructor Squad]] ([[Stonecruncher (G1)|Stonecruncher]], [[Excavator (G1)|Excavator]], [[Sledge (G1)|Sledge]], [[Hammer (G1)|Hammer]], [[Grit (G1)|Grit]] & [[Knockout (G1)|Knockout]])

'''Micromaster Decepticon [[Micromaster Combiner Transport|Combiner Transports]]'''
* [[Cannon Transport]] (with [[Terror-Tread]] & [[Cement-Head]])

'''Micromaster Combiner Decepticon Anti-Aircraft Base'''
* [[Anti-Aircraft Base]] with [[Blackout (G1)|Blackout]] & [[Spaceshot]]

=====Notes=====
* The Micromaster Transports Flattop & Roughstuff, the Micromaster Stations Greasepit and Airwave and the Micromaster Decepticon Jet Command Center Skystalker were also still available.

===Action Masters===
====Autobots====
'''Autobot [[Action Master]] Figures'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]] with [[Anti-tank cannon]]
* [[Jazz (G1)/toys|Jazz]] with [[Turbo Board]]
* [[Rad (G1)|Rad]] with [[Lionizer]]
* [[Rollout (G1)| Rollout]] with [[Glitch]]
* [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]] with [[Heli-pack]]
* [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] with [[Flight Pack]]
* [[Jackpot]] with [[Sights]]
* [[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] with [[Push-Button]]
* [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] with [[Hydro-Pack]]
* [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] with [[Tyrannitron]]
* [[Skyfall (G1)|Skyfall]] with [[Top-Heavy]]
* [[Kick-Off (G1)|Kick-Off]] with [[Turbo-Pack]]}}

'''Autobot Action Master Action Blasters'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Turbo Cycle]] with [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]]
* [[Attack Copter]] with [[Over-Run (G1)|Over-Run]]}}

'''Action Master Autobot Vehicles'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Turbo Racer]] with [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys|Wheeljack]]
* [[Attack Cruiser]] with [[Sprocket (G1)|Sprocket]]}}

'''Action Master Autobot Armored Convoy'''
* [[Armored Convoy]] with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]]

====Decepticons====
'''Decepticon [[Action Master]] Figures'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] with [[Wingthing (G1)|Wingthing]]
* [[Treadshot (G1)|Treadshot]] with [[Catgut]]
* [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] with [[Scorpulator]]
* [[Krok (G1)|Krok]] with [[Gatoraider]]
* [[Shockwave (G1)/toys|Shockwave]] with [[Fistfight]]
* [[Banzai-Tron (G1)|Banzai-Tron]] with [[Razor-Sharp]]}}

'''Decepticon Action Master Action Blasters'''
{{columnlist|3|
* [[Off-Road Cycle]] with [[Axer]]
* [[Turbo Jet]] with [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]}}

'''Action Master Decepticon Attack Vehicles'''
{{columnlist|3|
*[[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron]]'s [[Neutro-Fusion Tank]]
*[[Gutcruncher (G1)|Gutcruncher]]'s [[Stratotronic Jet]]}}

==2000==
:''For the line of ''Generation 1'' reissues begun in Japan this year, see: [[Transformers Collection]]''

==2001==
:''For the supplementary, store-exclusive Japanese line of ''Generation 1'' reissues and new creations begun this year, see: [[e-Hobby]]''

==2002==
:''For the North American counterpart to the Japanese ''Generation 1'' revival, see: [[Commemorative Series]]''

==2006==
:''For the ''Titanium Series'' toys with a "Generation 1" sub-label, see: [[Titanium Series]]''

==2007==
:''For the line of ''Generation 1'' reissues begun in Japan this year, see: [[Encore]]''

==2008==
:''For the "Generation 1 Series" toys, see: [[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]''

==Innovations and lasting effects==
Naturally, the original toy line introduced the original "[[gimmick]]" of <strike>[[trademark|transforming]]</strike> [[transformation|converting]]. Aside from that and introducing a plethora of "classic" [[character]]s, there were other notable features coming out of the original line:
*Like transformation itself, spring-fired projectiles were a common feature from the get-go (except where the springs were removed [[For safety reasons]]).
*1985 saw the introduction of the [[combiner]] concept. 1986 expanded on that with the introduction of "Scramble City"-style combiners with interchangeable limbs.
*1985 also introduced [[Triple Changer]]s, the first toys with multiple [[alternate mode]]s. 1987 went a step further with the introduction of [[Six Changer]]s.
*Furthermore, 1985 introduced [[rubsign]]s.
*In the early years, every new toy was designed and marketed as an entirely new [[character]]. Hasbro's policy in this regard changed gradually: 1987's [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Goldbug]] was the first toy to be clearly designed as the same character as 1984's Bumblebee; but despite being marketed as such, he was still sold under a different name. 1988's [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] was the first new toy to be designed as a new version of an older character ''and'' sported the same name. This was followed by the [[Classic Pretender]] in 1989, and then half the [[Action Master]] line-up in 1990.
*In the early years, Hasbro also released a plethora of different gimmicks in multiple assortments each year, some of them shipping in Autobot- or Decepticon-specific assortments and others in mixed assortments. It wasn't until 1989 that Hasbro made their first attempt at streamlining the [[Transformers brand|brand]] into unified gimmicks with (excluding larger toys that shipped all by themselves) mixed Autobot/Decepticon assortments, in this case "[[Pretender]]s" and "[[Micromaster]]s". 1990 followed suit, with the year's entire Transformers output divided into "Micromasters" and "Action Masters".

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[[Image:MarvelUS-19.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Hasbro wasn't quite sure whether to advertise this expensive toy until the fans forced their hand.]]

To understand ''Transformers'' fiction, it is important to understand that it exists '''to sell toys.''' [[Hasbro]] and [[TakaraTomy]] are toy companies, and they are primarily interested in continuing to sell [[Toy|toys]] to children and adults. The cartoons, comic books, etc., mostly exist to make this happen. To be sure, they normally [[Transformers (2007)#Reception|make a profit in their own right]], but this is regarded as mere gravy.

The "to sell toys" effect often distorts the fiction in interesting ways. Primarily, since you can't usually sell someone the same toy twice<ref>Except for repaints of [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]].</ref>, Hasbro and Takara constantly introduce new toys, and often require the creators of the fiction to introduce the new characters into ongoing storylines. Older characters (whose toys are no longer being sold) are shoved aside to make room.

Another effect of "to sell toys" is when the toys have gimmicks which must be explained in the fiction. Sometimes ([[Mini-Con]]s) this is relatively easy, while other times it requires a lot of imagination on the part of the writers (the in-comic explanations for the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster]]s are kinda wonky).

The UK [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|movie-based ''Transformers'' comic]] has taken this to more blatant heights. For its first year, it had a specific four-page feature every week called ''Top Gear'', which exists solely to promote the newest Transformers merchandise. ''Any'' merchandise. This led to readers being told how great [[Optimash Prime]] was. For ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', [[Ironhide (Movie)|''Ironhide himself'']] opened letters pages by telling readers how ''awesome'' the game was and how [[you]] should buy it.

==Casting==
===Huge casts===
[[Image:CosmicRust-BigGroup.jpg|right|300px|thumb|[[Pokeformers|Gotta catch 'em all!]]]]
Hasbro makes a lot of toys at once, and they generally want all of them to appear in their fiction. This can force writers to bring in vast numbers of characters all at once, sometimes with awkward results. Examples include:

* The first issue of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Generation 1 comics]], "[[The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers]]", in which ''twenty-eight'' different robots appeared and introduced themselves, even though only a handful are important to the plot.

* The 1987 ''[[Headmasters (comic)|Headmasters]]'' Limited Series, which introduced over ''sixty'' characters in the course of four issues, including all the first waves of [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster]]s, all their [[Nebulos|Nebulan]] partners, the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]], [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]], and [[Monsterbot]]s.

* The cartoon episode "[[The Rebirth]]" likewise abruptly introduced a deluge of the 1987 toyline characters, mostly the same ones seen in ''Headmasters''.

* In the first four episodes of ''[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'', eighteen characters are introduced in quick succession.

* From #9 onwards, [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan's movie-based ''Transformers'']] has heavily bumped up the cast with new toys. In one example, #17 brought in nine new toys in eleven pages; only one of the five Decepticons got any real focus or dialogue.

===Random casting===
The Hasbro-induced need to show all the toys can also cause stories to suddenly focus on a new character, sometimes dropping ongoing plot threads about older ones. Examples include:

* Season 2 of the cartoon introduced many new characters/buyable toys with no explanation; despite never having been seen before, the story treats them as though they have [[Beachcomber (G1)|been there]] [[Perceptor (G1)|the whole]] [[Tracks (G1)|time]].

[[Image:Decepticonpretenders-behold.jpg|right|200px|thumb|After seven issues, it's finally time for these six dudes to do something!]]
[[Image:Optimusprimeg1preearthmarvel2.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Apparently, the Triggerbots didn't make much of an impression on Prime.]]

* The comic issue "[[Pretender to the Throne!]]" suddenly introduces a dozen Autobots and Decepticons that we've never met before, and follows their adventures. The story adds nothing to the long-range plot that couldn't have been accomplished by using existing characters; these teams were added to the mix to promote their new toys.

* Many issues of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comic]] had cover blurbs in the form "Introducing the _______!", where the blank was whatever the latest line of toys was. The following issues specifically introduce new toys on the cover: [[Repeat Performance!|#8]], [[The Next Best Thing to Being There!|#10]], [[Brainstorm!|#11]], [[Command Performances!|#19]], [[Aerialbots over America!|#21]], [[Crater Critters|#29]], [[The Cure!|#30]], [[Pretender to the Throne!|#40]], [[People Power!|#42]], [[Ca$h and Car-nage!|#46]], [[Club Con!|#47]], and [[Yesterday's Heroes!|#60]]. Throw in a few covers where new characters were pictured but not named, and that's 1/5th of the series.

* In [[Spacehikers!|issue #36]] of the Marvel comics, when [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] decides that he needs help in dealing with [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s inept leadership, he doesn't turn to any of the ''dozens'' of Autobots aboard the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'', which include two combiner teams and Omega Supreme. No, he has to call in his "old buddy"/new toy, [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]].

* In the prelude to the [[Underbase Saga]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] were the lead characters in a story set before the Transformers came to [[Earth]]. But rather than palling around with the likes of Jazz or Prowl, they are instead shown alongside the newest "gimmick" characters, the [[Triggercon]]s and the [[Triggerbot]]s.

* [[Mainframe Entertainment]] planned to use [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] in ''Beast Wars'', but [[Tigatron]] appeared instead because he had an upcoming toy, and to save money as his CGI model was only a slight tweak of [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]'s. <ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/9c79c4226fc6dd28/30c3cdf158ea6e52?lnk=st&q=bob+forward+beast+wars+tigatron+wolfang&rnum=1#30c3cdf158ea6e52 Ben Yee relays some info from Bob Forward in regards to Wolfang being replaced by Tigatron in the Beast Wars cartoon]</ref>

* Rather than revealing stuff about the [[Vok]] and [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]], a long-running subplot, "[[Other Victories]]" spends much of its time telling us how great [[Tigerhawk]] is and how we should buy his toy.

* The [[First (and Second) in Flight|sixth issue]] of ''[[The Arrival]]'' stops following the regular cast so it can flag the awesome cool out-now-in-shops [[Safeguard (Animated)|Safeguard]] toy.

* Prominent generals in [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan's movieverse]] Decepticon army change frequently and without any acknowledgment as new toys jostle for (and gain) space.

===Limited casting===
On the opposite side of things, Hasbro doesn't want to pay to depict characters that aren't selling toys. This can force a story, particularly an animated cartoon, to have a smaller cast than it otherwise might.

[[Image:Metamorphdeceps2.JPG|right|200px|thumb|The full might of the Decepticon army.]]

* The early episodes of ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' featured only the toys available on the shelves. This resulted in two ridiculously small teams going to [[Earth]] for the all-important mission of gathering Mini-Cons, rather inexplicable in story terms.

* [[Armada (Dreamwave comic)|Both the Dreamwave]] and [[Armada (Panini comic)|Panini comics]] suffered exactly the same problem, but it gets worse: [[First Encounter|The first ''Armada'' episode]] reused models of older Transformers as generic background guys to bump numbers up. The comics ''didn't''. So Megatron apparently conquers all of planet Cybertron with an army of three guys, whereas the city/planet defending Autobots are just five blokes.

* Dreamwave would also [[Dreamwave Armada issue 10|feature a scene on Cybertron]], where the ''only'' Autobot who seemed to exist was [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]].

* For the movie prequels, IDW got around this by deciding that [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] was going to be a [[Class Alpha drone unit|series of drones]] instead of one guy, allowing for really big battle scenes despite a then-limited number of toys. {{storylink|Movie Prequel}} (It would later turn out there was ''also'' Dreadwing who was one guy.) Titan Magazines would borrow this, and turn other Decepticons into drone series too.

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==Plot==
===Forced explication===
{{main|Introdump}}

Rather than simply showing up in the background, new toy/characters often overtly introduce themselves, often with a ridiculous description of their special abilities. The Marvel comic is rife with examples, but it shows up across numerous fictions.

[[Image:Introdump decepticons marvelus01.jpg|right|200px|thumb|There's probably three other Decepticons hidden among that lot...]]

* Again, [[The Transformers (issue)|''Transformers'' #1]] has two huge splash pages in which 28 characters do nothing but stand around and tell each other who they are and what they can do.

* The two-part Generation 1 cartoon episode "[[Dinobot Island, Part 1|Dinobot Island]]" features many new 1985 characters getting their own short little introductory scene, often with a characteristic bit of self-description ([[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]]: "I'd rather stay in my stunning auto mode!" [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]: "I'm ''always'' ready for action!" [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]]: "Wow, like, I hope we don't destroy this place before we can study it!")

* "[[The Rebirth]]" has ''three different sequences'' in which large new groups of characters form a lineup and introduce themselves to viewers one after another. Strangely enough, much of this screen- and dialogue-time is given over to Nebulan partners; the "main" Transformer characters get no such introductions, even though they are the items kids would have to purchase to acquire the Nebulan accessories. For instance, [[Spasma]], [[Monzo]], and [[Peacemaker]] (all speaking characters) are introduced by name as part of various lineups, but their in-store hosts [[Apeface]], [[Weirdwolf]], and [[Pointblank]] are never named (and Weirdwolf never even speaks).

* "[[Beast Wars (Part 1)]]" has the Maximals walk on one-by-one admiring their beast modes, loudly explaining their names and showing character traits. This also gives the impression they deliberately changed their names to fit these new beast modes for no apparent reason.

===Gimmicks===
When the toys can do something special, fiction writers must often go out of their way to show the gimmick in action.

* The Headmaster gimmick got [[Headmasters (comic)|an entire Limited Series comic book]] devoted to it.

* The comic issue "[[Pretender to the Throne!]]" features [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] proudly creating the [[Pretender]]s, gloating that they will hide the Decepticons' identities from the Autobots "until it is too late". Not only does the plan not actually work, it's also a plot point with absolutely zero lead-in or build-up—at no point has Scorponok ever expressed concern about his troops being detected by the Autobots, and we've never even met the Pretender characters before. It was brought about solely because the new toys had to be jammed into the story. (The, uh, story of returning Optimus Prime's character to the comic book because he had [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#PMOP|a new toy]].)

* [[Rotor Force]] made their debut in "[[New Dawn]]", and both here and in subsequent ''Generation 2'' issues would primarily fight enemies not with guns like everyone else, but by firing their giant rotors at them. Page 3 of ''New Dawn'' actually shows them having to ''stop and reattach their rotors'' before they can carry on fighting.

[[Image:Mistaken Identity Galvatronscourge.jpg|right|250px|thumb|It's Morphin Time! MASTODON!]]

* ''[[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] had six alternate modes and the cartoon really wanted you to see them, which is why [[Battle Protocol|his first appearance]] is as ''a giant hand for no reason''. It gets sillier when he turns into Galvatron and gains four more modes. In "[[Mistaken Identity]]", he turns into his "Iron Mammoth" form when facing off against [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|a hostile Fortress Maximus]] even though he doesn't ''do'' anything in his form except stand there ''as he was already doing''.

* [[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorm]] and [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]] are the only Autobot jets in the ''Animated'' line. (Not counting the toyless [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]].) To fully big this up, their origin story has it that there have ''never been'' any flying Autobots before, despite them having been in (and won) a long and bitter war with enemies who ''often fly''.

The [[Unicron Trilogy]], noted for its gimmicks in all three toylines, was particularly notorious in this regard:

* The quest for power-enhancing [[Mini-Con]]s practically defined the plot of the ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' cartoon, with both factions out to recruit or capture all the Mini-Cons.

* [[Powerlinx|Powerlinxing]] is shown again and again and again in ''[[Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'', despite having comparatively little relevance to most episode plotlines.

* [[Cyber Key]] powerups are likewise shown repeatedly in ''[[Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]].''

* All three series were also marked by lengthy transformation sequences which highlighted the gimmicks in very toy-accurate animation (and also made production cheaper, thanks to [[Stock footage|recycled footage]]).

===Strange developments===
Shoehorning loads of new characters with new powers can compel the writers to do things with the plot that, in all probability, they otherwise wouldn't.

* Marvel UK had to promote the [[Special Teams]] toys ''before'' they knew how they'd be appearing in the US reprints. To get around this, [[Simon Furman]] wrote a story arc titled ''[[Second Generation!]]'', where [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]], Optimus and Shockwave <strike>watched an advert</strike> saw a Matrix-induced vision of the Special Teams.

* In the US Marvel comics, the simultaneous introduction of the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] and [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] and the introduction of the Pretenders both saw a lot of rigamarole involved in explaining why both the Autobots and the Decepticons had new members with identical numbers/gimmicks at the same time.

* Season 3 of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] almost completely ignored the characters of the previous two seasons that were no longer on toy shelves. The 1985 Autobot cars, for example, are not seen at all. [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and the 1985 Mini-Vehicles, by contrast, show up now and again, as their toys were still shipping. Even Starscream, who was ''dead'', managed to get a couple of Season 3 episodes all to himself; again, his toy sold through 1986.

* [[Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 2]] wrote an entire story devoted to Optimus sternly explaining which Autobots and Decepticons were on sale in [[Germany]] in 1989. The reason he had to? [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]] had ''shot an Autobot''!

* The first thirteen issues of the ''[[Armada (Dreamwave comic)|Armada]]'' comic were focused around the Mini-Cons, with plots often revolving around their desire to be seen as equals and not be enslaved. Then without ''any'' prior set-up, the last five issues turn into a dimension-spanning battle against [[Unicron]]—who had just had a new and expensive toy.

[[Image:Samprowl.jpg|right|100px|thumb|<strike>Upgrades are bad.</strike> Upgrades are GOOD. We have always been at war with <strike>Eurasia</strike> Eastasia.]]

* "[[A Fistful of Energon]]" has [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] learn not to use upgrades, and gives up using powerful samurai armour. But whoops, Hasbro thought "hey, we could make a toy out of that armour"! And so in [[Five Servos of Doom|a later episode]], Prowl ''regains'' it and the show hurriedly claims that the upgrade is fine ''now'' because Prowl realizes now that it's the Autobot, not the upgrade.

* The [[France|French]] decided to be good sports and start using propeller-driven nuclear bombers again, just so [[Octane|Tankor]] could be used ([[All Hail Megatron issue 11]]).

* [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] has been on Earth for a while, in hiding from other Decepticons while he waits for orders from [[the Fallen]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}} Ransack is a member of a race that can scan any object and take its form as a disguise. Ransack moves around in the cunning disguise of ''a 100-year-old plane''. (At least, unlike the previous example, the oldness of the alt-mode was pointed out.)

* In Titan's ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comic, [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] go from being [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee's]] responsibility to bugging [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] to being [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe's]] responsibility in the space of three issues, all to allow each issue to focus on a specific toy-bearing movie star. Similarly, only one or two Decepticons per issue are sent on a mission, when presumably the Fallen might want to send loads of guys to silence the twins.

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===Awkward continuity===
[[Image:Earthforce.jpg|right|200px|thumb|This happened... er.... look just buy the toys, ok?!]]

Sometimes the requirement to feature new toys can be so strong that continuity takes a major backseat and stories are produced that feature combinations of characters that make the story very difficult to slot into the main continuity. The Marvel UK comic was especially prone to this as it could not always foresee where, when and how characters would be introduced:

* The ''[[Transformers Annual 1986]]'' contains many stories featuring toys from the 1985 release long before they were formally introduced in the regular comic, often interacting with other characters who would be out of action by then. As a result few of the stories easily fit the continuity of the weekly comic.
* The demands of Hasbro UK for the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] and [[Targetmaster]]s to be featured heavily even before the US ''[[Headmasters (comic)|Headmasters]]'' mini-series was available meant that both the ''[[Transformers Annual 1988]]'' and the regular strip "[[Worlds Apart!]]" contain a slightly different set of events that are odds with the mini-series.
* The requirement to give prominence to the rereleased toys in the [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] range resulted in one the biggest continuity trainwrecks of all, [[Earthforce]]. Nearly two decades later fans are still uncertain where it fits in continuity, and even [[Simon Furman]] admits to being unsure.<ref>"Looking back, as I try my hardest not to do, it's very hard to tie the Earthforce stories into a specific time frame (in terms of the US continuity), because (if I'm brutally honest) I didn't try too hard to make it work in the first place. By that point, I was just trying to tell a bunch of fun UK stories that didn't necessarily impact on the larger (US) storyline. How was I to know 15 or so years later people would be trying to reconcile it all?" [http://transfans.co.uk/interviews_furman.php TransFans.net - Interviews: Simon Furman - Part 1 'The Past'].</ref>
* Germany's ''[[Transformers Comic-Magazin]]'' started in 1989 and reprinted older Marvel US and UK strips. Since, of course, these would rarely show the current toys, Comic-Magazin ran text stories from #2 that showcased ''completely different'' Transformers that were on Earth at the same time, and just happened not to be seen in the strips.
* Trapped between the need to pimp toys and the problem of not knowing what the plot of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' would be, Titan just threw up their hands and unambiguously set their lead strip in [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)#Alternate universe|an alternate universe]].

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===Power levels===
In order to make new characters seem more ''totally awesome'', they're often depicted as ultra-powerful in their initial appearances. Once they become old news, they frequently seem to lose their super-charged abilities.

* The Generation 1 cartoon introduced [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] as the ultimate threat. Once newer combiner teams came along, however, he was less of a threat, easily defeated at various times by [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and even [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]].

[[Image:Buzzsawyikes4.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Buzzsaw reminds Omega Supreme he's not a new toy any more.]]

* The Marvel comics feature [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] as nigh-invulnerable and ultimately powerful in [[Command Performances!|his début issue]], slaughtering 2/3rds of the Decepticon forces sent to attack him. Just [[Dark Star (issue)|two years later]], he's getting his butt handed to him by the likes of [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], one of his original victims.

* In her first appearance on the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon, [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] effortlessly blasts [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] to pieces. She never displays such a level of power again.

* Similarly, [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] was presented as a huge threat when he first appeared, but just a few episodes later, he seems just slightly tougher than the average Predacon (save for a few notable occasions).

* [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] was actually a credible threat for his first couple of episodes.

* The [[Commandos]] were far more powerful and competent than the Predacons, who were made even ''less'' powerful and competent as episodes went on. Remarkably, this was actually used in the plot, with Megatron focusing on the new toys while the Predacons became underdogs trying to get their old status back and one-up the new guys.

[[Image:ArmTVTidalWave.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Before he shrank in the wash.]]
* ''Any'' new toy character in the Unicron Trilogy cartoons is almost guaranteed to win the day's battle.

* [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]] was a staggering behemoth as big as the sky in his introduction, and his ability to combine with Megatron LITERALLY gave the battle advantage to the Decepticons until his equally powerful counterpart [[Overload (Armada)|Overload]] was introduced. By the time of the ''Energon'' cartoon, Tidal Wave is just this tall guy (but not as tall as he used to be) and is treated as just another Decepticon, even after he gets a body upgrade in the form of "Mirage".

* When the newly redecoed Jetfire and Optimus combine in Dreamwave's Armada comic, they are so powerful ''they can hurt Unicron himself''.

* [[Jungle Planet (Cybertron)|Jungle Planet]] ruler [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]] was incredibly powerful when he was first introduced, but later on, he's getting slaps on the wrist by [[Lori]] and [[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]], and schooled by [[Bud Hansen|Bud]], ultimately becoming more of a sympathetic comedic bumbler than a credible threat.

* The Decepticons in ''Animated'' started off as being so horrifically powerful that the entire Autobot team had to take on a ''single'' one. By Season 3, this no longer happens. Uniquely, this was ''deliberate'' by the writers: they wanted to show the Decepticons as supreme threats, and have the Autobots gradually being better at dealing with them.

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===New bodies===
There's rarely a compelling reason for a Transformer to get a brand-new body in fiction; it's simply to promote a new toy. It has become a default way to keep a popular character on shelves, rather than having to kill them off and introduce a new character to keep moving toys. Sometimes fiction writers are able to work these alterations in elegantly... sometimes not.

[[Image:Bumblebeeskindeep.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Ratchet pulls a Kitty Pryde on Bumblebee.]]

* [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] was rebuilt and upgraded into Goldbug following his near-destruction... and is later rebuilt back into Bumblebee to sell the [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Pretender|new Classic Pretender toy]]. The reason given is that [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] deliberately downgraded Goldbug against his will because he liked his old form better, something Bumblebee is strangely fine with.

* Season 2 of ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' introduced the new [[Transmetal]] toys in short order, requiring some strange sci-fi waffling to explain why members of both teams suddenly got special new bodies. The writers had originally planned to introduce these changes gradually, across the length of Season 2, but Hasbro ordered them to be brought in immediately. (The slow-and-gradual notion would eventually appear during Season 3.)

* The [[Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons feature [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] getting recolored and renamed "Galvatron" ''three times''; at the start of each subsequent series, he's given a different body but called Megatron ''again'', because the name "Megatron" just sells more toys. (This also means Hasbro gets to keep the [[trademark]] "Galvatron".)

* Several times during the Unicron Trilogy, characters get new paint jobs as part of some magical power-up enhancement. These new color schemes exist solely to promote redecorated toys like "[[Ironhide (Energon)|Energon Ironhide]]" or "[[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Powerlinx Hot Shot]]". Even the comics got in on the action, introducing the redecorated versions of [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] and [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus]] during the Unicron arc.

* The three future members of the [[Cybertron Defense Team]] get shot up by Megatron, then transmogrify through the power of [[Burning Justice|BLAZING HEART OF JUSTICE]] into new forms. These new forms, of course, were just hitting shelves at a toy store near you.

* In the course of the [[Transformers (2007)|live-action movie]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] gets irritated at a slight against his alternate mode, and scans a new form. Voila, suddenly he's got ''two'' toys on the shelf!

* When [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''Transformers'' comic originally came out, there were no Generation 1-themed toys to flog, and many characters were given altered designs for the series. Then along came ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'', featuring new toys of Generation 1 characters, and suddenly multiple characters get new, toy-accurate bodies in ''[[All Hail Megatron]]'', for no apparent in-story reason. Later, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] even gets a namechange to ''Silver''streak to fit his toy.

* [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] was originally grey, but when he was reunited with the ''Animated'' Decepticons, he changed his colours to purple while referring to it as his proper look. Why he changed colouration to go undercover was not explained, but it may have something to do with a purple-coloured Shockwave toy being out when that episode aired.

* In ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] start out as an old ice cream truck combiner but after a disastrous mission [[NEST]] decides to upgrade them to new individual [[General Motors]] vehicles. New toys ''and'' product placement!

===Abrupt conclusions===
[[Image:MarvelUSG2-12.jpg|right|150px|thumb|It's the end of the road for Transformers Generation 2! That can't bode well for the toyline.]]

Just as ''Transformers'' fiction lives at Hasbro's pleasure, so too does it die. Falling sales, a change of plans, and standard [[rebranding]] can all cause a storyline to come to a sudden end when Hasbro decides to pull the plug.

* The American Generation 1 cartoon got a somewhat rushed conclusion in the form of "[[The Rebirth]]", rather than a full fourth season.

* The Generation 1 comics were nearly canceled at [[On the Edge of Extinction!|issue #75]], but granted a reprieve. The stay of execution was only temporary, however; with the Generation 1 toyline ending, the comic was terminated a mere five issues later, resulting in a rather hasty concluding plotline.

* Hasbro was only willing to support the [[Generation 2 (Marvel Comics)|''Generation 2'' comic]] for twelve issues, unless it proved an unqualified (perhaps phenomenal) success. Aware of this from the start, writer Simon Furman was able to plot a story arc that reached its finale as the series ended (and poked fun at it with a character whose name is a pun on "[[Jhiaxus (G2)|Gee, axe us]]".)

* The writers of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon reportedly never had any idea if they'd be back for another season. When the axe fell with Season 3, they had only three episodes left to wrap up the whole series.

* Hasbro nearly killed off the just-begun comic series ''The Wreckers'' in 2001, wishing instead for [[3H Productions|3H]] to focus on a ''[[Universe (2003 comic)|Universe]]'' comic advertising its current toyline.

* Even though ''[[Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' wasn't abruptly canceled, Kids WB ended the series on the cliffhanger of the episode "[[Revelation (episode)|Revelation]]", leaving millions of kids tuning in next time only to get a re-run of ''Xiaolin Showdown''. The reason? The Cybertron Defense Team toys hadn't hit stores yet.

* With ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' coming out in June, Titan had to end their alternate universe storyline in May so they could tie in early—an issue earlier than planned. The main strip handled this, with the notable exception of [[Jazz (Movie)#Titan Magazines Transformers movie comics|the Jazz plot arc]] going completely unresolved, but it played havoc with working out the IDW reprints!

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==Death==
===Killing off old product===
[[Image:Tftm1986a.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Guess who's no longer in the Mini Vehicles case assortment?]]
[[Image:Newyorkunderbase.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Publisher's clearing house.]]
[[Image:BW Scorponok Terrorsaur deaths.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Scorponok, Terrorsaur, we're condemning you to a fiery death 'cause Waspinator has a bigger fan club.]]
The most obvious To Sell Toys effect comes from the temporary nature of retail sales. Even in the 1980s, toys rarely stayed on the shelves past two years; today that timespan is much smaller. Once a toy is no longer selling, Hasbro has no interest in supporting fiction about that character—especially when there's newer toys to promote. Therefore, writers are often compelled to remove characters from the story by killing them off. Sometimes this happens through carefully developed story arcs, but it's easier to do it with huge, apocalyptic battles with massive numbers of casualties.

This has become less common in recent years, as Hasbro has come to realize that their target audiences can actually get attached to certain [[character]]s, and might not enjoy seeing them die random, brutal, meaningless [[death]]s.

* In ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', numerous main characters are killed or changed in the movie's first 30 minutes, including [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]. They are replaced by a slew of new characters; in fact, the poster for the movie shows ''only'' new characters (except [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]) and/ or [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]).

* Numerous characters are killed in the Marvel UK comics saga "[[Time Wars (issue)|Time Wars]]". The Grim Reaper seemed to spare either popular characters (Megatron and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]) or newer characters ([[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]], [[Catilla]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], for example.)

* The [[Underbase Saga]] features a super-powerful [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] killing literally ''dozens'' of characters; some place the count over fifty. The survivors were mostly from the [[Pretender]], [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]], and [[Targetmaster]] ranks, those being the then-current toy lines. However, the explanation (Underbase power didn't affect those TFs with organic components) meant that even the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]], new toys at the time and introduced three issues before, met their end.

* The climactic [[On the Edge of Extinction!|battle with Unicron]] 25 issues later killed off many of the Underbase survivors, whose shelf run had ended.

* With its enormously expensive CGI animation, ''Beast Wars'' was particularly vulnerable to toy-based interference. The expense of creating and animating a CGI body model meant that the character roster had to remain fairly constant; the introduction of all-new characters usually required the removal of an equal number of pre-existing characters. And so, [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] die just in time for the arrival of [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] and [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]. (Frustrated with the situation, the writers carefully planned out<ref>http://www.builtstlouis.net/tf/manic/m-botcon.html</ref> the demise of [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]], anticipating that someone would have to be removed to make way for [[Rampage (BW)|newer characters]].) [[Tigerhawk]] was introduced and then killed off within three episodes, due to corporate uncertainty about whether the toy would actually be produced.

* ''[[The Reign of Starscream]]'' would end up killing a large number of Autobots in one issue, after their toys had been around for a while; as they'd not made an appearance in the comics until this mini, this is both an example of Huge Cast ''and'' Product Clearing. {{storylink|The Reign of Starscream issue 5}} It would then go on to bump off some Decepticons, while its sequel ''Alliance'' slaughtered ''hordes'' of Decepticons with old toys. Mowry is the new Furman... {{storylink|Alliance (comic)}}

===Hi-and-die===
[[Image:Chuffer cof.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Likely dialog: "SHEEEAAGH!!"]]
Kids don't want to buy a toy of a character who's dead. So if the plot calls for someone to die, smart money bets on the character who has a toy as the survivor. The guy without a toy, who you've never heard of before? Toast. This is the Transformers version of ''Star Trek's'' infamous [[wikipedia:redshirt_syndrome|redshirt syndrome]].

* This approach was particularly common in the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#UK comics|UK comics]]. Characters created specifically so they could be killed off include Wrecker leader [[Impactor]], Autobot/zombie food [[Chuffer]], Tailgate's Autobot trainee buddies/mutant fodder [[Subsea]] and [[Flattop (Autobot)|Flattop]], and the sixth member of the "Magnificent Six", [[Stampede]].

* The US comics also used this approach on occasion, as with [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s poignantly adorable buddy [[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]].

* The ''Energon'' cartoon introduced [[Padlock (Energon)|Padlock]], whose purpose was to die at [[Shockblast]]'s hands, proving motivation for toy-character [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]].

* ''Animated'' chucked in [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]] so Ratchet could have a tragic past where he failed to save someone. (And ''then'' she got a toy!)

* The [[Transformers Animated (Titan)|''Animated'' comic]] wants to do a story arc about an Autobot who's really a spy and then have him killed. Quick, [[Afterburn|make someone up]]!

* ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron|Exodus]]'' invents hordes of characters solely to populate the story with casualties while preserving the classic characters: [[Chromatron]], [[Gauntlet]], [[Halogen]], [[Drixco]], [[Revo]], [[Catalycon]], and dozens of other unnamed Autobots, Decepticons and [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s.

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===Resurrection===
Killing off a character isn't always toy-motivated; sometimes it's a dramatic plot development. But it can also be a problem if Hasbro decides to make a new toy of that character.

[[Image:Inferno dies agenda2.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Only a flesh wound!]]

* [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] has been resurrected [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|so many times]] that it's practically a defining character trait. His original revival in the cartoon didn't correspond to any actual toy release, but the Marvel comic brought him back specifically to advertise his [[Powermaster]] form. A second death-and-revival introduced his [[Action Master]] body. And a ''third'' death-and-revival in ''Generation 2'' brought him into his [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#G2Hero|Hero]] toy form.

* The Japanese killed off Optimus (or "Convoy" as they called him) in [[The Headmasters (cartoon)|''The Headmasters'']]. A few years later, they not only brought him back with a new toy, {{storylink|The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars}} the ''entire franchise'' for that year was called ''[[Return of Convoy (franchise)|Return of Convoy]]''.

* Numerous "dead" characters were brought back into the Marvel comic series when their Classics and/or Action Master versions were released. Many were "deactivated" rather than outright dead; however, very few ''non'' Action Master characters showed up alongside them.

* The series writers for ''Beast Wars'' considered [[Optimus Primal]] dead and gone at the end of Season 1. Hasbro, however, had a [[Transmetal]] Optimus Primal toy to promote, and so he was returned to life in Season 2. Hasbro wanted him brought back in the first minutes of the season premiere, but the writers managed to convince them that it would be better to do so at the ''end'' of the two-episode story.

* At the end of Season 2 of ''Beast Wars'', [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] was pretty clearly shown being killed—being ''disintegrated''—but in the next season appeared to have just been bruised and cracked, because Hasbro was not ready to have a Mega-scaled toy removed from the series.

* Pretty much ''nobody'' could successfully die in the [[Energon (cartoon)|''Energon'' cartoon]]. [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], [[Demolishor (Armada)|Demolishor]], [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Dagger]], and [[Inferno (Energon)|Inferno]] all die and/or are resurrected from the dead during the course of the show.

* [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]] still had toys out in 2008. The [[bio]] for AllSpark-Enhanced Autobot Jazz states he was brought back from near-death by the AllSpark and is "more powerful than ever". Voila, Jazz comes back from the dead thanks to the AllSpark in Titan's tie-in comic! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 16|Dark Spark}} Optimus even uses the ''term'' "Autobot Jazz" in a later issue... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|Hard Target}}

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===Untouchables===

[[Image:Armorhide_drawhisfire.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Really, they could just stand there making rude noises at Starscream.]]

Obviously, if a character ''does'' have a current toy (or soon will), they're not going to die, even if the plot or common sense indicates they should.

* [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] had betrayed [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] to the Maximals, ruining his greatest shot at victory. As he declared, "There will be no more betrayals!", she would pay the price: being knocked into stasis lock so the Maximals could fix her and she could stay on their team. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}

* Megatron himself was in a prime position to be terminated, as were the Maximals later on, in "[[The Weak Component]]". Since this was only episode 6 and everyone had toys out, the cast politely agreed not to take this opportunity to end a brutal war for the planet.

* Titan's Movie strip was moved to an alternate universe, where you'd [[Rhythms of Darkness!|expect nobody to be safe from death]]. However, most of the cast had toys out, so whether it was a desperate guerrilla fight against Decepticon occupation, the rise of [[Unicron]], a [[Decepticon Civil War]], or the final battle, very few characters bought it. The big exception was [[Divebomb (Movie)|Divebomb]], dying in his first story, but he didn't have a toy in the UK, so he was [[Furmanism|surplus to requirements]].

* Starscream, the end.

==Notable exceptions==
There are, however, a few notable exception to the To Sell Toys effect:

===Toys not released in the relevant market===

[[Image:Swoopg1marvelukfirst.jpg|right|200px|thumb|YOU CAN'T HAVE ME.]]

Occasionally the ''Transformers'' fiction released in a particular country features characters whose toys were not released in that country. The Marvel UK comic featured two variants of this phenomenon:

* Characters inherited from the US strips. Some, such as [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]], [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] and the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]], were given fairly prominent roles in the US stories reprinted in the UK comic and so it was hard to ignore them completely in the UK originated material despite their toys not being around to need advertising. However the decision to develop the Predacons (even before their US appearances were reprinted), to have entire storylines focusing on Swoop, and also to keep Shockwave in continuity even after he'd been (supposedly) killed off in the US comic goes beyond this.

* Characters not featured in the US strips. Bizarrely the UK comic also made use of some characters such as [[Roadbuster]], [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]], [[Chop Shop]] and [[Venom (G1)|Venom]], despite their toys not being available on UK toy shelves. None of these characters were inherited from the US material.

Writer [[Simon Furman]] has since stated that when writing the stories he was generally unaware of which toys were unavailable in the UK: "We largely took our cue from what characters were being introduced into the US storyline. If there was a release schedule for the toys in the UK, we rarely saw it... But in the case of Swoop and the Predacons, I don't think I was consciously aware (at the time) that we were dealing with toys not generally available in the UK. They were just extant characters, and therefore fair game." <ref>[http://transfans.co.uk/interviews_furman.php TransFans.net - Interviews: Simon Furman - Part 1 'The Past'].</ref>

This would happen again with Titan, as foreign exclusives palled around with UK-available toys.

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===Post-Marvel comics===
[[Image:Infiltration 1b.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Hey, Runamuck, it's our first appearance on a comic book cover in twenty years!" "Heh heh, now if only we could appear on toy store shelves..."]]

Both [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] and [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] comics, the two recent holders of the license to publish ''Transformers'' comic books, sometimes produce comics using whichever toy line is current (e.g., Dreamwave's ''[[Armada (Dreamwave comic)|Armada]]'' comic or IDW's [[Transformers (2007)|2007 movie]] tie-ins), and sometimes publish comics using whatever characters they please (e.g., ''[[The War Within]]'' and ''[[Escalation (IDW)|Escalation]]''). The characters in their "discretionary" comics are often not currently available in toy form ([[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]], a current character in IDW's G1 continuity, has only recently had a toy on shelves after twenty years), sometimes are drawn with bodies that have ''never'' been toys (most of the ''War Within'' characters), and sometimes are toys that were never available outside of specific countries ([[Lio Convoy]] in IDW's ''Beast Wars'').

[[Chris Ryall]], IDW Editor-in-Chief and writer of the miniseries adapting the 2007 movie to comics, had stated on IDW's forums that Hasbro does not dictate what comics IDW must make ("Nope, no dictates at all from Hasbro. We put the plan together, send to them for approval.").<ref>http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=69377</ref> By the time of ''All Hail Megatron'', however, the ''Universe'' line came out and Hasbro asked IDW to start using some of those designs. <ref>[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=102461&sid=2298445cdfba342643da80282a95cc7a#102461 Guido reveals the Hasbro request]</ref> This practice seems to have been thrown out for the new Ongoing title.

===New toys, same basic design===

In more recent times (mostly in the case of the [[live-action film series]]), Hasbro use a combination of minor [[redeco]]s and [[retool]]s and sculpts based on the same basic designs to create new toys, instead of giving recurring characters a major design overhaul for the next installment. The fiction then rarely, if ever, acknowledges any of those minor design changes. According to screenwriter [[Roberto Orci]], some people at Hasbro even argued against changing the designs of some returning characters in ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'', so that parents would '''not''' have to buy the same toy twice for their children just because of a minor change or modification to the characters' designs. <ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2186879&postcount=171 Roberto Orci posting at TFW2005.com]</ref> (Hasbro still released new, or modified, toys of those characters, prompting [[completist]]s to buy them as well, and the film gave some of the characters slight tweaks in their [[alternate mode]]s, based on changes in the real-life vehicle designs, which the toys had to incorporate.)

===''Timelines'' Firestar/Flareup===
During the development of the [[BotCon]] [[Descent into Evil]] set, it was discovered that the name "[[Firestar]]" could not be used due to trademark reasons. As such, the toy that would've been her was assigned a new identity as [[Flareup (Timelines)|Flareup]]. [[Ben Yee]] at first wanted to mention in her [[bio]] that Firestar had died, but refrained from doing so because of "fear Hasbro would not appreciate [him] 'killing' one of their characters in any way".<ref>[http://www.bwtf.com/toyreviews/timelines/descent/flareup Flareup toy notes at BWTF.com]</ref>

==Footnotes==
<references/>

[[Category:Toys]]

Talk:2005 IDW timeline

2011-02-01T13:13:28Z

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== Update? ==

I've not yet read AHM, but it looks like this page hasn't been updated for about a year now. It's in desperate need of additions to MaxDino, Revelation, and AHM. We really could do with a sorted out chronology. Anyone up to the task?

== ==

I'm pretty sure it's been explicitly stated that the IDW's Beast Wars title is NOT in continuity with their main G1-based stuff. Even if that weren't incredibly obvious by it's very nature. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

:Hrm, that sounds a bit familiar. Clearly I was thrown by the consistent-with-BW lethal energon fields in the Shockwave Spotlight. I shall remove it from the timeline. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

"6.2 metacycles ago, with 1 metacycle = 13 months" uh, that would make the events of the first Ark happen 80.6 months ago, not 6.7 million years.... --[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 11:52, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
: Forgot the million, sorry. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

== 2006/2007 ==

In the modern era, starting with ''[[Infiltration]]'' in 2006, isn't it sorta indeterminate when 2007 is, comic wise? Sure, ''[[Escalation (IDW)|Escalation]]'' was published in late 2006-2007, but chronologically it starts right after ''Infiltration''/''[[Stormbringer (comics)|Stormbringer]]''. Also, while the miniseries is released over a 6-month span, it actually takes place over a few days (weeks at most). Perhaps we should just combine 2006 and 2007 to 2006+ and just list the events in the order in which they happened. Thoughts? --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 14:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Yeah, I don't really see the kids hanging out with the Autobots for a year between ''Infiltration'' and ''Escalation''...--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
::I thought we got some sort of in-universe date reference in Devastation saying Infiltration was just a few months ago...? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:51, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Where is it stated that Galvatron's re-emergence and the creation of the Scourge's sweeps in "Rebirth" happened PRIOR to AHM? The way it's written it seems that it could very well have happened AFTERWARDS, couldn't it?
:I think that was according to the Continuum reading order. Don't have it in front of me to check though.--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 13:36, 29 January 2010 (EST)
Yeah, but even if it IS in the Continuum, does that thing even COUNT?
:No.
:(I mean, seriously... '''no'''. Even ignoring the errors, it's basically written out-fiction. It adds ''nothing'' to the universe.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:05, 1 February 2010 (EST)
::All we really know for sure is it happened sometime AFTER ''Revelation''. Hopefully the next author that follows up on this can nail down the timeframe. Is Galvatron supposed to be in the Wreckers mini? --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 14:05, 3 February 2010 (EST)

==Clean up?==
The Infiltration/Escalation/Devastation sections seem way too long and detailed for a timeline. Shouldn't things like Sixshot's battle with the Autobots be like one or two sentences long, rather than an issue-by-issue citing of events? I'm asking 'cause it's ''possible'' somebody's trying to verify that the events can really happen at the pace they're portrayed (which is a laudable goal given the current furor over at [[Spotlight: Arcee]]), but I suspect it's mostly a result of things being added piecemeal as each issue comes out, without any re-writing of previous material. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:39, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I agree, a cleanup is in order, and we haven't even added in the events of the last three Spotlights in the current era, yet. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Don't the events of Spotlight Arcee take place before the end of Devastation? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
A few notes - Spotlight Wheelie clearly takes place sometime AFTER all the other ones so far, as the decepticons who die in it are all under Megatron's command in AHM. So that gives us some context to add it. Also I'd argue for Spotlight Kup occuring sometime earlier than listed here. --Sunyavadin
:Wrong on Spotlight Kup. Springer shows up in the comic following the events of Stormbringer. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:32, 17 March 2009 (EDT)
::AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH SO BLOATED WHAT THE HELL. Man, I wanted to clean this up before Continuum comes out, but it's a friiiiiiggin' mess. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:18, 9 November 2009 (EST)

MistaTee, what the hell. Maximum Dinobots does not need a play-by-play. This is a TIMELINE. If we're using more than ten sentences for a five-issue miniseries we're DOING IT WRONG. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:44, 12 November 2009 (EST)
: Follow the example of Megatron Origin's writeup on the timeline. That is ideal. You can really tell where on this page when we started creating it - which stories were already out when we started, versus which stories were coming out as we were updating it. We should always write like the former, not dogpile sentence-by-sentence until we make a monster. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:50, 12 November 2009 (EST)

::Agreed that it needed shortening, but it doesn't even mention the Monsterbots, who basically saved their asses. This is condensed more than Continuum, which is not necessarily a good thing. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:02, 12 November 2009 (EST)
:::Expand it from here, rather than shorten it from the super-long version. This edit is closer to what we desire. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:26, 12 November 2009 (EST)

==Inclusion of Avengers==

Does anyone actually know if this series is still considered (or ever was considered) canon with the other IDW stuff or is it like most comic book crossovers, just random, non-canonical stuff [[User:Eire]] 23.22 Nov 12 09 (UTC)
: It's definitely included. It's been said to be canon, and it ties directly into Spotlight: Ramjet anyway. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:25, 12 November 2009 (EST)
How incredibly depressing...so where were the damn avengers during AHM huh ^_^ Although, SPL: Ramjet went out of its way to not really give you a clue about the connection
:::Where were [[Spider-Man]] and [[Nick Fury]] when the Decepticon Civil War broke into New York City? They called the [[Neo-Knights]] instead! But "[[Prisoner of War!]]" is still canon, even though the letters page asked us to forget about it, please. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:13, 25 November 2009 (EST)
::Out-universe, Marvel seems to (via their "Access") series canonized the idea that there are 3 kind of "naturally occouring" non-amalgamated 'crossovers.'
::#A character crosses from one universe to another, and is totally aware this is not their own universes.
::#Two universes temporarily overlap, including all their histories. Characters from Universe A will remember always having known about characters from Universe B, and may be vaguely aware of the oddity that they somehow always managed to miss one another in the past, but not think anything of it. (all characters occupy the same universe, but the universes remain largely segregated.)
::#Two universes overlap, and the overlap causes large-scale alterations to the universe because if these characters had always co-existed they would have been fundamentally altered by their interaction. (The present looks nothing like the present of either universe.)
::Access sorts out crossovers of Types 1,2 and 4. (4 being Amalgamations, which do not naturally occour.) He may also handle #3 behind-the-scenes, but this has not been established.
::So there '''is''' a mechanism for this crossover to be canon and make perfect sense (IIRC the Marvel line at the time was that these '''were''' the Avengers of earth 616) a Type 2 universe cross-over. They happen naturally from time to time. But that mechanism has only been established in the Marvel comics, not any TF comic, so apparently we're required to remain ignorant of it? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:40, 25 November 2009 (EST)
:::Remain ignorant about what? :P
:::1) I don't know if it is true or not, but our [[New Avengers / Transformers|page on the crossover]] says it can't be Earth 616. 2) I think the wiki sort of treats it like #2 already. How would we treat it differently if we were to acknowledge this canonized idea? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:06, 25 November 2009 (EST)

== AHM Giant Block of Text ==

Why does AHM have a giant block of text that is essentially a recap of two issues? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:56, 25 November 2009 (EST)
:I don't know. I put the cleanup tag for it. But I'm not about to go torture my brain cells reading AHM again to fix it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:24, 25 November 2009 (EST)
::I've trimmed it back to bullet points. :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:37, 26 November 2009 (EST)
:::You rock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:51, 26 November 2009 (EST)

== Drift miniseries ==

I'm right in saying that the Drift miniseries should also be mentioned under the section detailing Drift's defection and meeting with the neutrals right? Only Spotlight: Drift is mentioned currently see...

Talk:Power Surge (episode)

2011-01-24T20:16:11Z

Durge: /* Furmanisms */

== Furmanisms ==

Is it me or does Tarantulus say to Rattrap in this episode- 'You can't win Furman, I am your superior!'? Is this a callout to Simon? It doesn't make a great deal of sense. Primal also says 'Got to...' earlier as well.
--[[User:Durge|Durge]] 14:53, 24 January 2011 (EST)
Ah, it's vermin not Furman- my mistake. Megs says it again in 'Victory'. Sounds very much like Furman though. --[[User:Durge|Durge]] 15:16, 24 January 2011 (EST)

Talk:Power Surge (episode)

2011-01-24T19:53:24Z

Durge: Furmanisms

Talk:Rapido

2011-01-24T19:41:53Z

Durge: /* Worth mentioning? */ new section

==G2 manga?==
I... don't remember Rapido showing up in anything Japanese aside from Ichikawa's "Chronicles" doujin, which, you know, isn't official. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

== Rank ==

Check out his new Tech Specs, now he REALLY outranks everybody: Rank 10+ FTW. Can I or someone else add this up to the notes. please? Or do I have to wait, like the rest of the Club fiction? He is now oficially the Chuck Norris of Transformers![[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 02:32, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

==Altmode==
Because nothing drives me crazy like shoehorning real-world makes onto made-up TF vehicle modes, let me put down in text here that I know the Quasar only lines up so well - but paperwork from the production of Rapido (specifically, early samples of his bio/card art) labels him as "Peugeot". -[[User:LV|LV]] 14:11, 7 December 2010 (EST)

== Worth mentioning? ==

I'm unsure if i'm missing a stage in his transformation but is it worth mentioning that Rapido can barely see over his own car hood chest? Seem's moderately humourous for a rank of 10.

Also, he might be a Peugeot, but I think there's a very small resemblance to a Lancia Stratos in him as well.
--[[User:Durge|Durge]] 14:41, 24 January 2011 (EST)

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)

2011-01-22T21:17:27Z

Durge: /* Transformers references */

{{nav-rotf}}
[[Image:ROTFteaserposter.jpg|right|250px|thumb|You have controlled your fear. Now, release your anger. Only your hatred can destroy me. ]]
{{quote|We had three weeks to get our story and, really, we were going into the movie without a script. It’s tough to do that.|[[Michael Bay]], [http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/01/14/michael-bay-ready-to-make-you-forget-transformers-2-it-was-kind-of-a-mess/ LA Times interview]}}

'''''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''''' is the second film in the [[live-action film series]], a sequel to ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]''. It was released in North America on [[June 24]], [[2009]].

The film is set two years after the events of ''Transformers''. The Autobots have found a home in "NEST", a secret military unit created to eliminate the remaining Decepticons, and Sam is starting college and trying to leave his Transformer-laden past behind. The Decepticons are regrouping, however. Megatron is restored to life, and his master, The Fallen, schemes to activate an energon-producing Solar Harvester on Earth, which will destroy the planet and provide the Decepticons with enough energon to raise an army. The Harvester's location, and the means to activate it, are hidden within Sam's mind, leading the Decepticons to wage war across the Earth as they hunt down the human. Witwicky turns to some unlikely allies to escape and survive. Ultimately, the last of the Primes defeats The Fallen, destroys the Harvester, and proves the Autobots' greatest power is found in their unexpectedly-ancient alliance with the humans.

Director [[Michael Bay]] set out to greatly expand the film's scope with settings ranging across the globe, and a much larger cast of Transformers, with over 40 robots in all.

::::::::::::::::::::{{bigquote|Revenge is mine!|The Fallen}}

:''Japanese title:'' '''''Transformers: Revenge'''''
:''Chinese title (Taiwan):'' ''''''Transformers: The War of Revenge'''''
:''French title:'' '''''Transformers: La Revanche''''' (''Transformers: The Revenge'')
:''German title:'' '''''Transformers: Die Rache''''' (''Transformers: The Revenge'')
:''Italian title:'' '''''Transformers 2: La Vendetta del Caduto''''' (''Transformers 2: The Revenge Of The Fallen'')
:''Polish title:'' '''''Transformers: Zemsta Upadłych''''' (''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Ones'')
:''Russian title:'' '''''Transformery: Mest' Padshikh''''', cyrillic: '''''Трансформеры: Месть падших''''' (''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Ones'')
:''Serbian title:'' '''''Transformersi: Osveta Poraženog''''' (''Transformers: The Revenge Of The Fallen'')
:''Spanish title:'' '''''Transformers: La Venganza de los Caídos''''' (''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Ones'')
:''Swedish title:'' '''''Transformers: De Besegrades Hämnd''''' (''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Ones'')
:''Brazilian title:'' '''''Transformers: A Vingança dos Derrotados''''' (''Transformers: The Vengeance of the Defeated'')
:''Portuguese title:'' '''''Transformers: Retaliação''''' (''Transformers: Retaliation'')

==Synopsis==
In 17,000 B.C., a group of human hunters discover Transformers already on Earth, building [[Solar harvester|a machine]]. [[The Fallen|One of the Transformers]] notices the humans, and his reaction is less than friendly.

Two years after the battle of [[Mission City]], the Autobots have teamed up with the American soldiers, including [[William Lennox|Lennox]] and [[Robert Epps|Epps]], in a secret team named [[NEST]] under the command of the [[United States military|US military]], but also incorporating soldiers from other countries such as the United Kingdom. Officially, the US government still keeps the Transformers' existence a secret.

[[Image:ROTF-Arceethree.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Well, I guess you don't know everything about women yet.]]

NEST is hunting down the Decepticons on Earth. A region of [[Shanghai]], [[China]] is evacuated to allow NEST to deploy with a cover-up of a toxic chemical spill occurring. As soldiers probe the region, they find the heat signature of the Decepticon [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], who transforms and wreaks havoc on the roadways. His discovery prompts his partner, [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]], to escape as well. Sideways is pursued by [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], Skids, and Mudflap, although Sideswipe, waiting for the Decepticon, eventually slices him lengthwise in half. [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] is airlifted to Shanghai and chases Demolishor through the city with [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]. Optimus shoots Demolishor several times in the head, while Ironhide shoots out his wheels, causing him to crash and fall off a bypass, badly injuring himself in the process. Before Optimus kills him, Demolishor delivers the cryptic message: "The Fallen shall rise again."

[[Image:ROTF Sam Cube fragment.jpg|thumb|right|250px|You will go to the Dagobah system. There you will learn from Yoda.]]

Meanwhile, [[Sam Witwicky]] is preparing for his move to college and dealing with his bipolar mother. His father is looking forward to enjoying a holiday in Paris, and [[Mojo]] has a new canine companion named [[Frankie]]. Sam is on the phone to his rather snarky girlfriend, when he finds a splinter of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] lodged in his "D-Day shirt". He experiences a brief flash of images before the splinter burns him. Dropping it, Sam sees the floor catch fire as the splinter burns its way down to the kitchen, where it brings numerous kitchen devices to life. These [[Appliancebot|appliancebots]] make their way to Sam's room and attack. He escapes to the garden, where the bots pin Sam and his father behind the water fountain. After [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] has destroyed the kitchen robots (and part of the Witwickys' house with them), Sam hands the All Spark shard to [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]]. His mother demands Bumblebee leaves. Sam then tells Bumblebee to join the other Autobots, as both of them need to move on. Sam and Mikaela have a slight scuffle over who should say the words "I love you" first, but they kiss and move on. Sam leaves for college, and no one notices a [[Wheelie (ROTF)|toy car]] in the lawn. It detects the splinter and signals [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], who is stationed in orbit around Earth, disguised as a satellite, and Soundwave orders the truck to follow the girl.

Meanwhile, NEST is in a video briefing with [[Morshower|General Morshower]], Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when they are visited by National Security Advisor [[Theodore Galloway]], who has been dispatched to relay the President's concerns over the casualties in Shanghai. As Optimus relays the warning of "The Fallen", Soundwave takes control of the satellite transmitting the message. Galloway dismisses the threat, convinced that the only reason the Decepticons are interested in Earth is because of the presence of the Autobots. Therefore, he suggests that they may leave the planet. Optimus says that, yes, they will, but also warns Galloway that he may be wrong. During the conversation, Galloway reveals the location of the All Spark shard Optimus Prime had picked up after killing [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], and the location of Megatron's remains in the [[Laurentian Abyss]].

Sam arrives at college with his parents and meets his roommate, [[Leo Spitz]], who operates a [[The Real Effing Deal|conspiracy website]] and is convinced that alien robots are hiding on Earth. Sam feigns ignorance and goes to see if he can get another room, but his hunt is interrupted by his father and mother, the latter of whom has unwittingly purchased some marijuana-laced brownies. In the corridor, Leo points out [[Alice]], another student he has the hots for. Sam is more concerned with tracking down his mother, who by now is roaming the school, informing random people about the state of Sam's virginity.

Soundwave dispatches his minion [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] to Earth, where he infiltrates the NEST base on [[Diego Garcia]]. Ravage horks a swarm of [[Microcon (ROTF)|microcons]] into an ventilation outlet, and they swarm down to the chamber where the All Spark shard is being held. There they combine into [[Reedman]], who steals the shard and joins Ravage in a rapid escape.

Although he's due to have a webcam date with Mikaela, Sam is dragged to at a frat party by Leo. He suffers some sort of attack, seeing [[Cyberglyphics|alien symbols]] which he is trying to write on a table with cake icing when he's approached by Alice, who attempts to seduce him. When Bumblebee shows up, she takes a ride with Sam, but Bumblebee does everything he can to convince her to leave, up to and including spraying her with an [[lubricant|unidentifiable yellow liquid]]. Bumblebee then takes Sam to Optimus Prime, who tells him of the theft of the All Spark shard and asks Sam to speak with the government on their behalf. Sam refuses, saying that he has his own problems and does not believe that he is the right person for this task.

[[Image:TheFallen-ROTFNemesis.jpg|thumb|left|250px|What is thy bidding, my master?]]

At the Laurentian Abyss, Ravage meets up with several [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]], who have placed themselves aboard a cargo ship, then dives with them to the bottom of the ocean, where the US military has dumped Megatron's remains. Using the shard and spare parts from [[Scrapmetal (ROTF)|one of the Constructicons]] (who is presumably killed), [[Scalpel (ROTF)|"The Doctor"]] is able to revive Megatron, who promptly travels to one of Saturn's moons, where the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'' is being used as a base by the Decepticons. He is awaited by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], who is overseeing the spawning of a new army of Decepticons. After beating Starscream for leaving him to die, Megatron presents himself to his master, The Fallen. Although Megatron believes he has failed, The Fallen reveals that when the Cube was destroyed, the knowledge within the All Spark was instead transfered to Sam, and with it the means to locate a device capable of creating vast amounts of Energon. The Fallen commands Megatron to retrieve the boy and kill Optimus, the last of the [[Prime (rank)|Primes]] and the only person who can defeat The Fallen.

As he sits in [[Professor Colan]]'s astronomy class, Sam suddenly reads through the entire reference book in a matter of seconds, before interrupting the Professor's lecture to scrawl more of the strange symbols on a blackboard and deliver a speed lecture on higher physics. After the Professor throws him out, he realises that the effects he's been experienceing may be linked to touching the All Spark shard. When he calls Mikaela to warn her not to touch it, the [[Wheelie (ROTF)|the toy-truck Decepticon]] tries to steal the shard, but Mikaela captures the tiny Decepticon. Mikaela promptly boards a plane to see Sam.

Alerted to multiple Decepticon contacts, NEST mobilises, but the Autobots are already on their way somewhere, and refusing to answer calls from their human comrades.

[[Image:ROTF Optimus death.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Afraid I was gonna leave without giving you a goodbye kiss?]]

Leo and Alice find Sam in the dorm room, freaking out and covering the walls with glyphs. Alice pushes Leo outside, and when Mikaela arrives, she finds Sam and Alice in what appears to be an intimate moment. It soon turns out, however, that Alice is a Decepticon as well. Mikaela, Sam and Leo flee as Alice hunts them, devastating the campus library; Mikaela eventually defeats her by slamming her into a tree with a hotwired car. The three humans try to get away but are captured by [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] and delivered to the waiting Megatron in an abandoned building. Megatron orders "The Doctor" to remove Sam's brain in order to access the information from the All Spark shard, but Optimus Prime and Bumblebee arrive to free the three humans. Prime takes Sam and flees, but is soon overtaken by Megatron, Starscream and Grindor. In the subsequent battle, Prime kills Grindor but is impaled by Megatron and dies. The other Autobots arrive, saving Sam and causing Megatron and Starscream to retreat.

With the Decepticons unable to locate Sam on their own, Megatron decides that a show of force is in order to compel the humans to turn Sam over to him. Soundwave relays the mobilization order to the ''Nemesis'' and then tracks down [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky]] in Paris. Decepticons, joined by The Fallen, enter Earth and cause massive damage in their transition forms, destroying a [[United States Navy|naval carrier]] in the [[Atlantic Ocean]] and attacking Paris, kidnapping Sam's parents. In a hijacked TV broadcast around the world, The Fallen reveals his existence to the world's public and demands Sam be surrendered to him. A manhunt for Sam is launched.

[[Image:Rotf t2 simmonsclassified.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Ready are you? What know you of ready?]]

Sam, meanwhile, is hiding out with Mikaela, Leo, Bumblebee and the Autobot twins, [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]. Leo complains loudly about the strange turn his life has taken of late, and Sam rightly tells him to shut the hell up.

The Autobots return to the NEST base, where they are surrounded by the military. Galloway tells them that he has placed in charge of NEST, which is to cease all activities relating to the Decepticons. NEST is being stood down, and they are all to return to Diego Garcia, while the military draws up a coordinated multinational strategy, buying time by negotiating with the Decepticons. Though Lennox tries to argue, it's futile as Galloway pulls rank. Ratchet says the Autobots should leave Earth altogether, but Ironhide points out that it's not what Optimus would want.

Feeling guilty for Prime's death, Sam decides to solve the mystery of the symbols he's been seeing. The Autobots identify the symbols as Cybertronian, but since the language predates their existence, they cannot translate them. Leo eventually suggests they may ask his rival, "[[Robo-Warrior]]", owner of a [[GiantEffingRobots.com|competing website]], for help. To everyone's surprise, Robo-Warrior turns out to be none other than [[Seymour Simmons]], former agent of [[Sector Seven]]. Simmons reveals that the Transformers were on Earth some time ago, as symbols similar to those Sam is obsessed with have been found on numerous excavation sites around the world, and that Sector Seven discovered evidence that several Transformers stayed on Earth for some time. However, in order to read the symbols, they may need a Decepticon. Mikaela then interrogates Wheelie, who identifies the symbols as the Language of the Primes, and suggests they may track down one of the ancient [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]], the Transformers believed to be on Earth. Wheelie identifies one as being nearby, in [[Washington, D.C.]]

[[Image:ROTF behold Jetfire.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Looking? Found someone you have.]]

At the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, they discover an old Decepticon named [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], disguised as an SR-71 Blackbird. After some initial confusion on his part, Jetfire explains he has defected to the Autobots, inspiring Wheelie to follow suit. When Sam finishes writing down the symbols, Jetfire says that they were part of the Seekers' mission, and he opens a [[space bridge]] and teleports himself as well as Sam, Mikaela, Leo, Simmons, Bumblebee and the Twins to [[Egypt]]. He explains that thousands of years ago, the Transformers arrived on Earth on an exploratory mission under their original leaders, the [[Dynasty of Primes|Primes]]. The Primes had come to build a solar harvester, a device which can create [[Energon (fuel)|Energon]], the Transformers fuel, by destroying suns. The Primes had a single rule of never destroying a star with a living bearing world, but one of the Primes, forever known as The Fallen, despised the humans and tried to activate the machine. The Primes were unable to defeat their brother, but instead stole the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the key needed to activate the harvester, and gave their lives to seal it in a tomb made of their own bodies. Jetfire further explains that only a Prime can hope to defeat The Fallen, and with the death of Optimus, they are doomed. Sam suggests that they may use the Matrix to revive Optimus Prime, which is backed up by Jetfire. They head towards Giza, dodging Egyptian police on the way.

In New Jersey, NEST are loading up to return to Diego Garcia when Simmons contacts Lennox to relay information about the new quest, and co-ordinates where they can drop Optimus's body. Lennox and Epps decide to trust the new information and go against their orders. Sam's group passes through a checkpoint, allowing Soundwave to poinpoint their location, but they reach the Pyramids of Giza, where they pick up the next clue, pointing to [[Jordan]].

On the NEST aircraft, Lennox tricks Galloway into bailing out of the plane. Back in the US, General Morshower receives a communique from Lennox, and arranges to have assets in the target area.

In Petra, Sam's group discovers the [[Tomb of the Primes]]. Inside, Sam finds the Matrix, which instantly crumbles into dust into his hands. Sam collects the dust regardless, and he and Mikaela return outside where Simmons and Leo have spotted the NEST team parachuting into Egypt to begin preparing for battle near the pyramids.

[[Image:ROTF_movie_BumblebeevsRampage.jpg|left|thumb|250px|This baby's got a few surprises in her.]]

Before Sam and the others can get back to Lennox and his people, the Decepticons start their attack. Bumblebee, Simmons, Leo, and the Twins draw their fire while Sam and Mikaela make a break for the soldiers. The Constructicons merge into [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]], who proceeds to swallow Mudflap. Mudflap, however, is able to free himself, together with Skids, they try to slow Devastator down. While the Autobots and NEST fight the Decepticons, Starscream leads several other Constructicons in a search for Sam, and intending to use Sam's parents to lure him into a trap. Falling into the trap, Sam offers to hand over the Matrix dust to the Constructicon [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]], but only to stall for time until Bumblebee is able to attack and destroy the Decepticon. Ravage attacks Bumblebee from behind, but is killed as well. Sam then orders Bumblebee to get his parents to safety while he and Mikaela try to reach Optimus Prime's body. A remote drone relays pictures back to Morshower, who launches [[Operation: Firestorm]], ordering an immediate launch of pretty much everything they can muster.

[[Image:ROTF Devastator Mudflap swallow.jpg|thumb|right|250px|How you get so big eating food of this kind?]]

In the meantime, Devastator has begun to to take apart the pyramid that has been built around the Harvester. Simmons calls a navy ship off the coast of Egypt and orders the use of a railgun. Meanwhile, Sam finally meets up with Lennox and Epps, but they're pinned down by [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]]. Jetfire arrives and kills Mixmaster and [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]], but is mortally wounded by the smaller Decepticon. Simmons relays Devastator's coordinates to the Navy, who score a direct hit on the giant with their railgun. Devastator is torn to pieces and topples from the pyramid. After an air strike takes out most of the other Decepticons, Sam makes a dash for Prime's body, but is caught in the blast of a shot fired by Megatron. While paramedics try to reanimate him, the Matrix dust gets spilled across his hand, and Sam encounters the dead Primes in a vision. The Primes tell him that he was destined to find the Matrix and save the life of the last Prime. Sam returns to life, which is enough to get him and Mikaela to admit that they love each other, and the dust in his hand turns back into the Matrix, which which he is able to revive Optimus Prime.

[[Image:TheFallen-ROTFfacegotten.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Perhaps you are not as strong as the Emperor thought.]]
Just then, The Fallen teleports himself next to Optimus Prime, grabs the Matrix, and teleports himself to the pyramid, where he uses the Matrix to activate the Harvester. The soldiers and armored vehicles begin firing on the pyramid, but The Fallen raises the heavy weaponry with his telekinetic powers and destroys it all. Dying, Jetfire offers his parts to Optimus Prime, and then rips out his own Spark. [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]] then proceed to turn Jetfire's remains into a battle armor for Optimus Prime, who is then able to destroy the Harvester. Optimus then faces Megatron and the Fallen. After a brief but intense battle, Optimus defeats Megatron and kills The Fallen. After the death of his master, Megatron, who has been severely damaged in the battle, follows Starscream's suggestion and retreats.

[[Image:ROTF Optimus Sam ship.JPG|right|thumb|250px|Take care, you two. May the Force be with you.]]

With the battle won, the Autobots, NEST, Sam and his friends return to the USA on board an aircraft carrier. Upon his return, Sam continues to attend college, while Optimus Prime sends another message detailing recent events, so the shared past of Humanity and the Autobots will not be forgotten as it was before.
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==Quotes==





"Gotta wonder... if God made us in his image, who made ''him?''"
:—'''Epps''', as Galloway first witnesses Optimus' transformation.

"We've shed blood, sweat, and precious metal together." 
"Soldier, you're paid to shoot, not talk." 
[muttering] "Don't tempt me."
:—'''Epps''' is not really happy with '''Galloway'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s plan to get rid of the Autobots.

"So let me ask: If we ultimately conclude that our national security is best served by denying you further asylum on our planet, will you leave peacefully?" 
"Freedom is your right. If you make that request, we will honor it. But before your President decides, please ask him this: What if we leave, and you're ''wrong''?"
:—'''Galloway''' makes the U.S. government's position on the Autobot refugees clear, while '''Optimus Prime''' counters with a pointed argument of his own

"No, uh, it's just this friend of mine went to get you a tighter shirt." 
"There is no [[tightest shirt|tighter shirt]]! We ''checked''!"
:—'''Sam''' tries to deflect a pair of '''frat boys'''

"Sam, fate rarely calls upon us at a moment of our choosing."
:—'''Optimus Prime''', trying to convince Sam Witwicky to become involved in the conflict once again

"I know you’re pissed. I know you’re pissed because I tried to kill you and it's completely understandable. If somebody tried to kill me, I’d be upset, too."
:—'''Sam Witwicky''' tries to relate with Megatron, to no avail.

"Is the future of our race not worth a single human life?" 
"You'll never stop at ''one''. ''[Unsheathes his left blade]'' '''I'll take you all on!'''"
:—'''Megatron''' tries to justify killing Sam, but '''Optimus Prime''' disapproves based on the potato chip theory. The most epic beatdown of the film ensues.

'''Sam''': "These symbols gotta mean something. Like a message... or a map. A map to an energon source. Can you guys read this?" 
'''Skids''': "''Read?''" 
'''Mudflap''': "Nuh-uh. We don't do a lotta reading."
:—Literacy with '''Skids''' and '''Mudflap'''.

"Beginning. Middle. End. Facts. Details. Condense. Plot. Tell it."
:—'''Simmons''' demands more coherent exposition from Jetfire.

"One man, alone..." 
"Stop saying that!" 
"...Betrayed by the country he loves." 
"Oh, my goodness, I'm in the car with you. You're not alone!"
:—'''Simmons''' being, well, himself, much to '''Leo Spitz'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s distress.

"Now I claim your sun!"
:—'''The Fallen''' does the standard "I claim victory before I have actually won" bit.

"You picked the wrong planet! Give me your ''face!''"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' warns The Fallen of his violent fetish.

"Not to call you a coward, master, but, sometimes, cowards do survive."
:—'''Starscream''' pitches his usual battle plan to an unusually receptive Megatron.

"Our races united by a history long forgotten and a future we shall face together. I am Optimus Prime, and I send this message so that our pasts will always be remembered. For in those memories, we live on."
:—'''Optimus Prime'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s closing narration.

==Main cast==
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*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] ([[Mark Ryan]])*
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] ([[Reno Wilson]])
*[[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] ([[Mark Ryan]])
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] ([[Jess Harnell]])
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] ([[Robert Foxworth]])
*[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] ([[André Sogliuzzo]])
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] ([[Grey DeLisle]])
*[[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]]
|c2=
*[[The Fallen]] ([[Tony Todd]])
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] ([[Hugo Weaving]])
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] ([[Charlie Adler]])
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Reedman]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Scalpel (ROTF)|Scalpel]] ([[John Di Crosta]])
*[[Alice]] ([[Isabel Lucas]])
*[[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] ([[Calvin Wimmer]])
*[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*[[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] ([[Kevin Michael Richardson]])
*[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]]
*[[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]]
*[[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]]
*[[Hightower (ROTF)|Hightower]]
*[[Overload (ROTF)|Overload]]
*[[Scrapmetal (ROTF)|Scrapmetal]]
*[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]
*[[Protoform]] army
*An [[Buffalo MPV Decepticon|unnamed Decepticon]]
*[[Scalpel's assistant]]s
*An [[Insecticon (Movie)|Insecticon]]
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]
|c3=
*[[Sam Witwicky]] ([[Shia LaBeouf]])
*[[Mikaela Banes]] ([[Megan Fox]])
*[[Leo Spitz]] ([[Ramon Rodriguez]])
*[[Seymour Simmons]] ([[John Turturro]])
*[[William Lennox|Major William Lennox]] ([[Josh Duhamel]])
*[[Robert Epps|Master Sergeant Epps]] ([[Tyrese Gibson]])
*[[Judy Witwicky]] ([[Julie White]])
*[[Ron Witwicky]] ([[Kevin Dunn]])
*[[Morshower|General Morshower]] ([[Glenn Morshower]])
*[[Theodore Galloway]] ([[John Benjamin Hickey]])
*[[Graham|SASF Agent Graham]] ([[Matthew Marsden]])
*[[Professor Colan]] ([[Rainn Wilson]])
*[[Fassbinder]] ([[Jonathon Trent]])
*[[Sharsky]] ([[Walker Howard]])
*[[Tova Simmons]] ([[Annie Korzen]])
|c4=
'''[[Appliancebot]]s'''
*[[Dickbot the blender guy]]
*[[Ejector]]
*[[Dyson vacuum cleaner]]
*[[Microwave bot]]
*[[Waffle iron]]
*[[Cappuccino bot]]
*[[Garbage disposal bot]]
*[[Hand mixer]]
*[[Stand mixer]]
*[[CISCO Aironet]]
'''[[Dynasty of Primes|Seven Primes]]'''
*Prime #1 ([[Michael York]])
*Prime #2 ([[Kevin Michael Richardson]])
*Prime #3 ([[Robin Atkin Downes]])
|nonumbering=true
}}

*Bumblebee's lines as spoken by Ryan were cut from the final movie, but one scene where his voice could be heard was in a promotional video created for ShoWest 2009. <ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRIfbFpe_sg Preview footage] from ShoWest 2009 showing Bumblebee "speaking" a line not used in the final cut.</ref>

==Errors==
===Filming / editing / technical errors===
[[Image:ROTF_filmcrewinsideplane.jpg|thumb|300px|Goddamn papparazi get ''everywhere!'']]

*When the Twins crash during their pursuit of Sideways, the pairs' voices are switched, with Tom Kenny's voice coming from Mudflap as he announces he is okay, and Reno Wilson delivering the admonishments as Skids punches him.

*During the Shanghai battle, when the ramp on the NEST C-17 transport is lowering to reveal Optimus Prime in the cargo bay, a filming crew can be seen inside the plane on the left side of screen.

*The vehicle modes the Twins scan already have personalized license plates on them.

*When Sam jumps from the second story of his house to escape the kitchen robots, a stuntperson who does not look much like actor Shia LaBeouf performs the stunt.

*During the scene in which Alice meets Sam at the party Sam gets a drink and the glass is full, then the camera angle changes and the glass is half full/empty then the angle changes again and the glass is full again.

*Bumblebee picks up Sam at a frat party in the evening. He then takes him to a graveyard where it's dawn. (In real life, the graveyard is located in [[Philadelphia]], while the frat party is set a hundred miles north in Princeton. Still, even in [[New Jersey (Earth)|New Jersey]] traffic, the trip wouldn't take ''all night''.)

*During Sam's campus freakout, when he drops his notes on the steps, a blonde woman in a suit can be seen coming down the steps to his left, nearly reaching him. However, when the camera angle shifts, the woman is suddenly at the top of the stairs again.

*As Alice attacks Sam, part of the window behind them is taken up by a fan. When Mikaela throws the tool box, it smashes through a glass pane where the fan had been moments before, with the fan itself now resting against the wall under the ''Bad Boys II'' poster.

*When the Autobots are driving to Sam's college shortly before the Decepticons attack him, Arcee is completely absent from the group, while previously-unseen Jolt shows up in one shot ''in front'' of the others, then when the camera angle changes, he disappears.

*In the flyover shot of the barge on which the four Constructicons sit, a red bulldozer, a concrete mixer, a green dump truck and a yellow front-end loader are visible. After the flyover shot, the yellow loader disappears and is replaced with a yellow Volvo excavator.

*During the North Atlantic sequence, on the submarine [[United States Navy#U.S.S. Topeka (SSN-754)|U.S.S. Topeka]]'s sonar, there are "five contacts" diving down to Megatron's location, and "six contacts" going up after his resurrection. Since one Constructicon was killed to repair Megatron, shouldn't there be only five contacts going up as well? Keep in mind, Scalpel is too small to register on sonar, but Ravage is just large enough.

*When the [[United States Navy#U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71|U.S.S. ''Theodore Roosevelt'']] is sunk by Decepticon [[transition form]]s, its hull number of 71 can be seen on the bridge island. However, when it sinks, a hull number of 74 can clearly be seen on the bow of the landing deck. CVN-74 belongs to the [[United States Navy#U.S.S. John C. Stennis (CVN-74)|U.S.S. ''John C. Stennis'']], a carrier that shows up later in the film and was also the carrier used for filming.

*There is a spiderweb in a tomb that explosively decompressed after being opened to the air for the first time in millions of years.

*While the NEST team and Director Galloway are on the C-17 headed to Egypt, Prime's body appears and disappears from shot to shot.

*When an aide to Morshower shows him a map indicating that Lennox's NEST team have airdropped in Egypt, the location marked is actually on the eastern side of the Red Sea, in Jordan. Oops.

*In the quarry when Devastator forms, the Twins go from grimy and dust covered to showroom floor clean within two shots.

*Once again, the [[wikipedia:MQ-9 Reaper|MQ-9 Reaper]] drone is referred to as the more well-known [[wikipedia:MQ-1 Predator|MQ-1 Predator]]. The drone is powered by a propeller, which can be seen when the (real) drone takes off. However, due to the usage of footage from the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie, when the (CGI) drone approaches the battlefield, the propeller is absent, replaced by a jet engine. Also unfortunate is the fact the real drone with the propeller is white, while the CGI drone is black. Oy.

*As the humans and Autobots run from the bombs being dropped on the Decepticons, a damaged Ironhide ejects the cannon on his left arm. In later shots, the cannon is back on his arm.

===Story / continuity errors===
*Most of the [[NEST]] and [[United States Military|American]] soldiers are seen using small-caliber arms such as assault rifles, machine guns and sniper rifles against the Decepticons, despite the previous film establishing that "high-heat" sabot rounds were the only means of penetrating Decepticon armour. Even if they somehow figured out how to make small caliber ammunition achieve the "high heat" required to damage Decepticon armour, it is extremely unlikely that such low-powered weapons would do any meaningful damage that warrants such widespread usage. After all, in real life, you can't kill a tank with a machine gun, well, unless you're in ''[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]''.

*The notion that a big metal box (containing a complex electronic mechanism shouting to be released) would ever make it through airport luggage screening is a bit on the implausible side. The novelization of the film attributes this to Mikaela's Epic Hotness distracting the guard into just letting her through; she also claims that the box contains expensive mechanic's tools which might look strange in an x-ray. Neither explanation is present in the film itself, however.

*When Alice attacks Sam and his friends, the box Wheelie is imprisoned within is taken along, but the box is not seen when Mikela and Leo escape from the foundry in Bumblebee (the box should still be inside the wreckage of the car Mikaela hotwired at the college).

*Given the Autobots are part of NEST and are dependent on the US Air Force for transportation around the world, it is not clear why Major Lennox had to be alerted to the fact the Autobots were on the east coast of the United States. Do the Autobot normally go on unexplained joyrides?

*Tasers do not cause those tased to go into convulsions.

*Where does Mikaela get the padding and gauze to bandage up Sam's hand?

*When Jetfire teleports to Egypt, Wheelie is seen landing by him, but disappears until the group reaches the border guards. After they arrive at the pyramids, Wheelie is seen rolling in with the quartet of humans, but is never seen again.

*There's no rational reason for Simmons to climb the pyramid after Devastator. It looks like he's enabling the Navy ship to "fire on his position", which is useful when the firer can't see the target. However, as we find out just before the railgun is fired, the ship ''can'' see the pyramid. (And railguns are line-of-sight weapons, anyway.) So, Simmons didn't need to climb; he could have stayed someplace safe, called the ship, and told them, "Take a look at the pyramid, and shoot the giant robot tearing it up." It's also hard to believe he wasn't crushed by the flood of pyramid stones, which at one point are raining down on all four sides of the structure.

===Geographic discontinuities===
{{note|The on-film splicing together of disparate filming locations is a common movie phenomena; however, we wouldn't be good pedants if we didn't point out a few of the more glaring disconnects.}}
* The [[Shanghai]] "industrial district" is... interesting, to say the least. There's a company sign that translates as "Empire Import and Export" (which would be the Chinese equivalent of a US company named "Soviet Import and Export") right next to a huge steel mill, dozens of civilians are being evacuated... and at least [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] thought that a giant mining excavator wouldn't be terribly out of place there.

* The aerial view of [[Princeton University]] is immediately followed by a ground shot of the dormitories at the University of Pennsylvania.

[[Image:ROTFcap-closestone.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"The closest one's in Washington." Washington... New Jersey?]]
* After Lennox is alerted of the Autobot operation on the US east coast, he orders NEST to move out. By the time Optimus Prime is killed in battle with Megatron, it appears Lennox's transport planes are already over the United States, and by the end of the day, the NEST troops are at a US air base. Given the great distance between [[Diego Garcia]] and the United States, the short time it took them to arrive to the US is implausible.

* [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] drops the car with [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]], [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]] and [[Leo Spitz|Leo]] inside into a factory just outside a huge city. Yet when [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] rescue them and flee, they almost immediately reach a huge forest that was nowhere to be seen in the aerial shot of the factory.

* In the basement of Simmons' deli, Wheelie projects dots onto a map of the United States to indicate where the Seekers are located. Simmons' deli is in New York City. One dot hovers over Syracuse, New York. Another hovers over Trenton, New Jersey. Simmons says the closest one is in Washington. There is no dot over Washington.

[[Image:ROTFcap-Pyramidsocean.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The foreshortening is amazing.]]
*When Jetfire is activated at the [[Wikipedia:National Air and Space Museum|Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum]] (actually the [[Wikipedia:Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center|Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center]], an annex of the Smithsonian) in Washington, he leaves the exhibition center and exits into the desert location of the [[Wikipedia:309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group|309th Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (aka The Boneyard)]], which is in Tucson, Arizona. When Jetfire breaks out of the building, we can see a composited image of the Boneyard's rows of planes, so it's arguable that in this universe the middle of Washington DC happens to be a desert full of old planes, and no buildings and... you get the point. Michael Bay actually admits this to be a deliberate choice in his audio commentary for the movie, and suggests that "most people in Taiwan" would probably never notice the error.

* The movie gives the impression that Giza in Egypt and Petra in Jordan are in close proximity to each other—within eyeshot, even. In reality, the two locations are about 416 kilometers (258 miles) apart. What makes this even more problematic is the fact that Egypt and Jordan don't share a common border—there's a country named Israel between them, whose existence isn't even mentioned in the movie...

* Furthermore, the movie gives the impression that the Pyramids of Giza are located near the coast—the soldiers and tanks deployed from hovercraft arrive at the battle site almost immediately. In reality, the closest sea shore, the tip of the Red Sea, is still over 70 miles away from the Pyramids. Worse, when the [[rail gun]] is fired, a monitor screen on board the ''U.S.S. Kidd'' shows footage of the pyramids with the ''ocean in the foreground'', making it appear like they're no more than a mile or two away from the shore. Worse still, this is ''immediately'' followed by a shot of the pyramids that shows ''nothing but desert'' in the direction the rail gun shot is coming from.

==Transformers references==
In addition to carryovers from the previous film, various concepts and characters are derived from previous iterations of Transformers:
* The whole concept of "Transformers disguised as a human" used for [[Alice]] is inspired by the [[Pretender]]s. Roberto Orci even used the term "Pretender" during an interview before the movie's release.<ref name="pretender">[http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00021244.html Aceshowbiz interview with Roberto Orci]</ref> However, a Transformer with an "organic" alt-mode instead of an external shell is a concept more reminiscent of the [[Beast Era]].
* The Generation 1 iteration of [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] is frequently portrayed as switching from Decepticon to Autobot (he's usually a young and technologically up-to-the-minute 'bot, however.)
* [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] and his ejectible minion [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] both have [[Soundwave (G1)|Generation 1]] [[Ravage (G1)|counterparts]]. Movie Soundwave even has the same voice actor as 1984 cartoon Soundwave, using the same voice, though without the synthetic vocal processing that made the cartoon voice so distinctive.
* [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] bears little physical resemblance to his [[Sideswipe (G1)|Generation 1 namesake]], but is a vaguely similar character archetype, and he ''does'' have that characteristic door armor hanging from his elbows.
* Generation 1 [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] was the first [[female Transformer]] with a starring role, and was likewise a pink-colored girlbot. The idea of Arcee the pink girlbot as a motorcycle dates back to ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]''.
* [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], the combined form of the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], was the first [[combiner]] robot in Generation 1 (unless you count [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]]).
* The characters are new, but the names "[[Sideways]]", "[[Demolishor (disambiguation)|Demolishor]]", "[[Mudflap (disambiguation)|Mudflap]]", "[[Skids (disambiguation)|Skids]]", "[[Jolt (disambiguation)|Jolt]]", "[[Rampage (disambiguation)|Rampage]]" and "[[Wheelie (disambiguation)|Wheelie]]" are not. Likewise for the concept of "[[Seeker (disambiguation)|Seekers]]".
* [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]] dying and coming back to life has been done [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|times beyond counting]].
* Prime combining with another 'bot to form a [[Super Mode]] which increases his power (and often gives him flight capabilities) is a trope that has occurred in many recent Transformers series (''Robots in Disguise'', ''Armada'', ''Energon'', ''Cybertron''.) In ''Armada'', a different [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] was his most frequent combination partner. This is the first time the other 'bot had to die for it to happen, though.
* [[The Fallen]] is based on a comic book character that made his debut in the 2004 miniseries [[War Within: The Dark Ages|The War Within: The Dark Ages]]. In fact, according to Hasbro, he is the ''exact'' same [[character]]! ([[Multiversal singularity|It's complicated]].)
* The [[Matrix of Leadership]] is one of the franchise's oldest MacGuffins.
* [[Energon (fuel)|Energon]] (mentioned though never seen) is the Transformers' power source in numerous incarnations, beginning with the original cartoon.
* The concept of a [[protoform]] as the first stage of a Transformer is a reference to the same concept introduced on the ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon.
* Though it is almost certainly not an actual ''reference'' (it's a pretty generic and predictable sci-fi trope), the [[solar harvester]] is quite similar in function to the [[Solar Needle]] from the Generation 1 episode "[[Changing Gears]]", sucking energy from the [[Sun]] to produce energon. Both devices would have destroyed the Sun if allowed to fulfill their function.
* The same is true for Sam having Cybertronian knowledge pumped directly into his brain via a sacred Transformer talisman, which is reminiscent of [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]]'s similar situation in the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] G1 comics.
* A newspaper is sucked into Devastator that headlines a photograph and accompanying article about a mysterious appearance by [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]].
* When Mudflap and Skids first appear in their Ice-Cream Wagon disguise, they play the Transformers [[Theme Song]] in a very "ice-creamish" way.

==Other editions==
*A slightly longer edit was shown in IMAX theaters, which featured some brief additional scenes filmed with special IMAX cameras.<ref name="bayimax">[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5003 Michael Bay's own announcement of the IMAX version]</ref> An exclusive deal with [[Paramount Pictures|Paramount]] resulted in ''[[Wikipedia:Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (film)|Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]]'' not being shown in IMAX theaters until two weeks after the movie's regular theatrical launch.<ref name="imaxpotter">[http://www.collider.com/2009/06/08/transformers-will-keep-harry-potter-off-imax-for-two-weeks/ Collider reporting on the Paramount/IMAX/Harry Pottter deal]</ref>
*It has been suggested that some international versions of the movie had the words "suck my" in the "Decepticons suck my popsicle" slogan on [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap's]] ice cream truck mode blanked out, hence only reading as "(Decepticon logo) [blank space] popsicle". This was not done across the board, however–theaters in those very same countries also showed uncensored versions of the movie. Another explanation for this would be that different theaters simply used different lightings settings, which effectively rendered the words "suck my" (which were written in dark red on a black backdrop to begin with) invisible, with no actual intention of "censorship" behind it.

==Prequel material==
===Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics===
While the Decepticons were disgusted with the pro-Autobot propaganda of Bay's first documentary {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 13|#13's Star Screams}}, they were quite optimistic about the second film. [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] took a strong interest in it, going to the trouble of personally convincing [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] to be in the film {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|15's Star Screams}}.

The Decepticons promised this new documentary would show a glorious Decepticon victory {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 10|#10's Star Screams}}—whether it was in the script or not. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 18|#18's Star Screams}}

Shockingly, even ''they'' were under a non-disclosure agreement regarding the script; Starscream fearfully referred to a greater power keeping him quiet. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 22|#22's Star Screams}} Talking about it could even undermine the Decepticon war effort! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|#23's Star Screams}}

In the same week the film came out, the Decepticons suddenly became unhappy with it and the detente period ended. Bay, Kurtzman, and Orci are once again marked for extermination for their propaganda films. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|#1's Law and Disorder}}

===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
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===Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie comics===

The sinister, unseen figure of the Fallen is secretly gathering a Decepticon army on Cybertron. Skids and Mudflap, slacking off there at the time, accidentally discover this and flee to Earth to warn the other Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Training Day}} An attempt to kill them fails {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}, but due to their rep of telling tall tales, no one believes them. It doesn't help when they accidentally help Grindor escape capture. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}} The Fallen's agent Soundwave decides to use this, and first frames the twins as turncoats {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}, then has them freed by their 'Decepticon allies' so they'll be hunted down.

After a few days of this, the twins began to regret ever getting involved, and Soundwave offered them sanctuary in the Decepticon army and the embrace of the Fallen: an offer they were eager to accept... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

==Adaptations==
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen (comic series)}}
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}}
'''Children's adaptations'''
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen: The Junior Novel}}
{{main|The Last Prime}}
{{main|Operation Autobot}}
{{main|When Robots Attack!}}
{{main|I Am Optimus Prime (ROTF)}}
{{main|Rise of the Decepticons}}
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen: Sound Like the Transformers}}

==Sequels==
Two sequels to the first ''Transformers'' movie were greenlit in the wake of its success, with ''Revenge'' being the first. Although Michael Bay had previously stated that he might need a break from giant space robots before tackling a third film, he confirmed a [[July 1]], [[2011]] release date on his blog.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html Official confirmation of third movie release date from michaelbay.com]</ref>

IDW is going to do a comic sequel, ''[[Nefarious]]'', which is lead into by [[Tales of the Fallen issue 5]].

==Soundtrack==
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen: The Album}}

==Score==
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen: The Score}}

==Home video releases==
{{main|Revenge of the Fallen (film)/home video}}
''Revenge of the Fallen'' was released by [[Paramount Pictures]] on DVD (as both a 2-disc special edition and a regular single disc version) and Blu-ray on [[October 20]]th in the United States,<ref name="comingsoon">[http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=58245 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Hits Blu-ray and DVD Oct. 20!]</ref> and [[November 30]]th in the UK.

==Theatrical posters==
<center><gallery perrow="3">
Image:ROTFteaserposter.jpg|Teaser poster
Image:ROTF Theatrical poster.jpg|Theatrical poster
Image:ROTF International poster.jpg|International poster
Image:ROTF Prime poster.jpg|Prime poster
Image:ROTF bumblebee poster.jpg|Bumblebee poster
Image:ROTF Starscream poster.jpg|Wait...Starscream gets a poster but Megatron doesn't? That's just wrong.
</gallery></center>

==Reception==
{{quote|Transformers: ROTF has mostly gotten pretty hideous reviews, but that's because people don't understand that this isn't a movie, in the conventional sense.|[http://io9.com/5301898/michael-bay-finally-made-an-art-movie Michael Bay Finally Made An Art Movie], Charlie Jane Anders|[http://i09.com i09.com,] [[June 24]], [[2009]]}}
{{quote|[The critics] never seem to understand that I make movies for people to take a ride and escape.|[http://tinyurl.com/nyscnv forum post] by Michael Bay|[http://shootfortheedit.com shootfortheedit.com,] [[June 25]], [[2009]]}}
{{quote|Rarely have critics been more disconnected from what audiences want and love.|John Horn, [http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-bay29-2009jun29,0,6806652.story The Los Angeles Times], [[June 29]], 2009}}
{{quote|I'll take some of the criticism... They're [the Twins] basically gone.|Michael Bay, [http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm USA Today], [[June 11]], 2010}}

''Revenge of the Fallen'' had its world premiere on [[June 8]]th, 2009, in Tokyo, Japan. Michael Bay, Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson, Isabel Lucas and Ramon Rodriguez attended.<ref>[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/47a23fdbb6ddc8ece6a0a6c87ccc2bbe-499.html Japanese Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 8, 2009]</ref>. Other countries such as South Korea<ref>[http://www.michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/f7a7af7e754cfa877a635b95d8908eea-506.html Korean Premiere photos at Michael Bay.com, June 9, 2009]</ref>, the United Kingdom and Germany followed over the course of the next few days. The United States premiere was held on [[June 22]]nd, 2009, in Westwood, California, during the [[Wikipedia:Los Angeles Film Festival|Los Angeles Film Festival]] for the second time.

In the week leading up to the United States release, while the film had been released in Japan and the United Kingdom, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was ranking 38% fresh on [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_revenge_of_the_fallen/ Rotten Tomatoes.com]. As American reviews were added into the ranking on June 24, the movie's freshness slipped slowly to 22%. RottenTomatoes.com's consensus was that "''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' is a noisy, underplotted, and overlong special effects extravaganza that lacks a human touch." Roger Ebert, who had given the ''first'' Transformers film three stars <ref>[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070705/REVIEWS/70620006/1023 Roger Ebert's ''Transformers'' review]</ref>, gave Revenge one star, and remarked that "if you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together." <ref>[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/REVIEWS/906239997 Roger Ebert's ''Revenge of the Fallen'' review] on RogerEbert.com</ref> Todd Gilchrist of Cinematical.com said Michael Bay "has exceeded even the possibilities of sequel-driven 'moreness,' combining his own muscular, high-gloss sensibility with the conventions of blockbusters past, present, and probably future to create a monolithic action masterpiece that feels destined to be the biggest movie of all time." <ref>[http://www.cinematical.com/2009/06/22/review-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen/ Review: Transformers Revenge of the Fallen] on Cinematical.com</ref> Michael Phillips from the Chicago Tribune said "the first, comparatively lucid ''Transformers'' was a headache, but I sort of enjoyed it....''Revenge of the Fallen'' is more like listening to rocks in a clothes dryer for 2½ hours." <ref>[http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/chi-tc-mov-transformers-0623-0624jun23,0,7350387.story 'Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen' stars Shia LaBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel] on chicagotribune.com </ref> Roger Ebert went back for more in a second article, declaring not only that ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was awful, but that it'd [[Ruined FOREVER|ruined action films FOREVER]]. <ref>[http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/06/the_fall_of_the_revengers.html "The Fall of the Revengers"] on suntimes.com</ref> In the face of many harsh responses to his own critique, Mr. Ebert went back a third time, not just deconstructing the film but also declaring that fans who claimed to perceive it as "great" were simply wrong.<ref>[http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/07/i_am_a_brainiac.html I am a Braniac]</ref>

Despite the overwhelmingly negative reviews, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' poised itself quickly as a blockbuster maelstrom. It grossed $16 million in its opening midnight showings alone, an all-time record for Wednesday openings and a second-best for openings on any day of the week behind ''The Dark Knight''. After the full Wednesday was over, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' had grossed $55 million in domestic ticket sales, surpassing the previous Wednesday release record, held by ''Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix'', by over $10 million. <ref> [http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1614673/story.jhtml 'Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen' Breaks Wednesday Box-Office Record] on MTV.com</ref> By the end of the first five days, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' had taken an estimated $201.2 million in the United States, just shy of ''The Dark Knight's'' record $203.8 million 5-day US total. In the same period, international markets took in $186.1 million, bringing the 5-day worldwide total to $387.3 million.<ref name="bomjdebut">[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2601&p=.htm BoxOfficeMojo.com - Weekend Report: ‘Revenge of the Fallen' Rises with Optimal Debut, June 28, 2009]</ref>

Paramount's U.S. exit polling revealed several intriguing facts: While the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie viewership skewed 60-40% toward men over women, the split for the new film was more even at 54% male, 46% female. More than 90% of those surveyed stated that ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was as good as or better than the first ''Transformers'' movie. Surprisingly, about 67% said the film was "excellent", an even better score than for Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman's critically acclaimed 2009 ''Star Trek'' movie.<ref name="exitp">[http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-bay29-2009jun29,0,6806652.story "'Transformers' director Michael Bay as audience darling" by John Horn, Los Angeles Times, June 29, 2009]</ref>

After two weeks in most markets, ''Revenge'' continued to defy critics and dominate the U.S. box office, narrowly defeating ''Ice Age 3: Dawn of the Dinosaurs'' on the Fourth of July weekend, finishing with upwards of $300 million in the U.S. and a similar figure in international markets.<ref name="reutjul7">[http://www.reuters.com/article/filmNews/idUSTRE5671DB20090708 Reuters reporting on Revenge of the Fallen's success around the world, July 7, 2009]</ref> As of September 6, 2009, ''Revenge'' has grossed more than $829 million worldwide (versus $708 million for ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]''), including $400 million from US box offices alone (versus $319 million for the first movie).<ref name="bomjrotf">[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=transformers2.htm ''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' at Box Office Mojo]</ref>

On [[October 20]], ''Revenge'' sold 2 million copies of its DVD/Blu-Ray release in the first 24 hours. <ref>[http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/business/Transformers-Sequel-Transforms-Hollywood-Revenues-65589247.html Transformers Sequel Transforms Hollywood Revenues]</ref>

On April 3rd, 2010, Shia LaBeouf stated that he was confused about many things in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' and in fact, hated the movie. However, he noted that one of the major problems the film faced was working during the writer's strike without a script, and that he had faith that the third film would be an improvement.<ref>[http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/shia-labeouf-confused-by-transformers_1137755 Shia LaBeouf comments on ''Revenge of the Fallen'' at contactmusic.com, April 3, 2010]</ref>

In a June 11th 2010 article about the third Transformers film, Bay and producer [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] now said they'd taken onboard some of the criticism, and cited the writer's strike and the rushed production as a problem; Bonaventura said "we tried to do too many things in the second movie, which didn't give enough time in any one of them". Bay also said he was getting rid of the "dorky comedy", like the Twins, for the third film, and called the Fallen "kind of a (expletive) character". <ref>[http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me USA Today, "Next 'Transformers' is due for a switch"]</ref>

===Awards and recognition===
On February 1, 2009 it was announced that ''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' was nominated for seven [[Wikipedia:Golden Raspberry Award|Golden Raspberry Award]]s.<ref>[http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/02/01/razzie.award.nominations/index.html 'Transformers,' 'Lost' lead worst movie nominees], cnn.com (February 1, 2009) retrieved 02-01-2009</ref> It was awarded three of them, for Worst Picture, Worst Director, and Worst Screenplay. <ref>[http://enewsi.com/movies/190-16933.html 30th Annual Golden Raspberry Award Winners @ENI]</ref> This presumably represents an improvement from 2007 film, which received only one nomination ([[Jon Voight]] in the Supporting Actor category) and no wins.

On February 2, 2009, it also announced that ''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' was nominated for an [[Wikipedia:Academy Award|Academy Award]] for Sound Mixing.<ref>[http://oscar.go.com/ Oscar.com]</ref> On March 7, it lost to ''The Hurt Locker''.

==Controversies==
* A huge flap revolved around the characters of the "Twins", [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]. Many critics and viewers believed them to be racist stereotypes of poorly educated black American teenagers. Much evidence points to the pair actually being stereotypes of poorly educated ''white'' American teenagers, trying their best to sound like hardcore black urban gangsters... though it's ''still'' a racist stereotype of dubious taste. Director Michael Bay, when confronted with those accusations, claimed that the personalities of the two characters had been primarily created in the recording studio by voice actors [[Tom Kenny]] and [[Reno Wilson]]. Wilson (who is African-American himself) was sad to learn his way of speaking was apparently offensive to himself.<ref name="jive"/> Screenwriters Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci confirmed that this portrayal of the characters hadn't been in the script, and admitted that they could understand the controversy.<ref name="racism">[http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/orci-and-kurtzman-respond-to-claims-of-racism-in-transformers-2.php Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman respond to accusations of racism]</ref>

* At least one reviewer claimed to find a repellent "anti-Arab subtext" to the movie's climactic scenes, which involved the damage or destruction of various Middle Eastern landmarks. <ref name="antiarab">[http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/MovieTimes?oid=978078 Chicago Reader review by Andrea Gronvall]</ref> The editors of this wiki are somewhat less than convinced.

* Along the same lines, Chinese viewers reportedly criticized the depiction of Shanghai in the opening scene of the movie. Apparently, depicting an ''industrial area'' as "very shabby" is an "insult" to an entire country, as is the destruction of parts of the city during a battle between alien robots.<ref name="insultchina">[http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90782/6686502.html English-language article from People's Daily Online reporting on the alleged criticism against the movie in China, including rebuttals]</ref> Regardless, ''Revenge'' topped the box office in China, dethroning 1997's ''Titanic'' as the most successful movie of all times there.<ref name="recordchina">[http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118006144.html?categoryid=13&cs=1 Variety reporting on the success of ''Revenge'' in China.]</ref>

* Both professional critics and amateur bloggers noted that the film presents the [[Barack Obama|Obama]] administration as endangering Earth by being wussy, bureacratic, and ignoring the Brave Soldiers. <ref>[http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1906689,00.html Time's review of "Revenge of the Fallen"]</ref><ref>[http://hubpages.com/hub/Transformers-2-Revenge-of-the-Fallen--A-Political-Message A blogger's specific focus on the politics]</ref> <ref>[http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/screen/reviews/Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen-49559047.html Philadelphia Weekly's review of ''Revenge of the Fallen'']</ref><ref>[http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/jjmnolte/2009/06/24/turnabout-transformers-2-takes-a-shot-at-president-obama/ Big Hollywood: Turnabout]</ref>. Some right-wing bloggers and critics were quite happy about this, natch. As Bay had added Obama's name and image to the film as a ''tribute'' to the President, after the two of them met and had a mutually-complimentary conversation <ref>[http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a160272/michael-bay-obama-likes-my-movies.html Michael Bay: 'Obama likes my movies'] at Digital Spy, and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfT7ZF_AUk8 Bay telling the story at a press conference.]</ref>, and the writers are known Democrats <ref>[http://www.wilshireandwashington.com/2009/06/transformers-a-swipe-at-obama.html Variety: "Transformers, a Swipe at Obama?"]</ref>, the implications are probably unintentional and meant to be a [[Autobot High Council|genre trope]] rather than a deliberate dig.

* The Campaign for a Commercial-Free Childhood, a lobbyist group that already complained about the [[Transformers (2007)|first film]], is currently trying to lobby the Federal Communications Commission into tightening regulations for marketing movies rated "PG-13" and associated merchandise to children. The basic reasoning behind their complaints is that ''Revenge'' contains "intense sequences of sci-fi action violence, brief sexual humor, and language" and "would have been rated R fifteen years ago", and yet Hasbro's [[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|associated toys]] are advertised during TV programs aimed at children.<ref name="fccfilter">[http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/08/transformers-movies-get-caught-in-fcc-content-filtering-inquiry.ars Ars Technica article on the CCFC/FCC story.]</ref> Hasbro themselves appear to be still undecided about their official position regarding the more "mature" tone of the movies and its ramifications for the [[Transformers brand|brand's]] public image, having left several questions to this effect unanswered.<ref name="allsparkqa">[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61539 July/August 2009 edition] of the Allspark [[Hasbro Q&A]]</ref><ref name="tformersqa">[http://tformers.com/transformers-hasbro-answers-your-burning-questions-part-v/12149/news.html July/August 2009 edition] of the TFormers Hasbro Q&A</ref>

==Technical details==
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==Production staff==
* Writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] recruited [[Ehren Kruger]] to help them write the screenplay. [[Michael Bay]] and producers [[Don Murphy]], [[Tom DeSanto]], and [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]] also returned.<ref>[http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6372 Transformers 2 Writers Confirmed]</ref>
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==Development details==
===Cast and crew signing on===
On May 30, 2007, a month before the official release of ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'', [[DreamWorks]] announced that two sequels were already being planned.<ref name="spy">[http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a58430/two-transformers-sequels-in-pipeline.html Digital Spy article from May 2007, confirming that two sequels were being planned]</ref> [[Megan Fox]] had already been confirmed for the first of those sequels twelve days earlier<ref name="foxcon">[http://www.mtvmoviesblog.com/2007/05/18/megan-fox-confirmed-for-transformers-sequel/ MTV confirming Megan Fox for the sequel]</ref>, while [[Shia LaBeouf]] had already confirmed his participation in an—at that time still theoretical—sequel in November 2006.<ref name="shias">Rebecca Murray: [http://movies.about.com/od/bobby/a/bobbysl111006_4.htm Interview with Shia LaBeouf from 2006, confirming his participation in a theoretical sequel]</ref> Director [[Michael Bay]], meanwhile, only once briefly questioned his involvement in a sequel in August 2007, when [[Paramount Pictures]] announced that ''Transformers'' would be released on HD DVD, but not on Blu-ray Disc.<ref name="bayhd">[http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/08/21/michael-bay-responds-to-paramounts-abandonment-of-blu-ray-no/ One of many sites reporting Michael Bay's announcement that he would not direct the sequel if the first movie wouldn't be released on Blu-ray]. Bay deleted his original post after changing his mind.</ref> Bay quickly changed his mind, however, and Paramount would later release the first movie on Blu-ray anyway, after the HD DVD had been abandoned.

In September of 2007, Paramount officially announced the first sequel for June 2009.<ref name="reldat">[http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117972852.html?categoryid=1236&cs=1 Variety reporting Paramount's official announcement of the first sequel]</ref> Bay was given a budget of $200 million, and ultimately managed to come in $4 million below that.<ref name="showest">[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/11461/tcid/1 Michael Bay talking the ''Transformers'' sequel at ShoWest“]</ref>

The ''Transformers'' screenwriters, [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]], initially hesitated writing the sequel, but ultimately had a change of mind.<ref name="sciforc">[http://scifiwire.com/2009/03/orci-kurtzman-reveal-tran.php Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman talking to Sci Fi Wire.]</ref> In October 2007, [[Ehren Kruger]] was confirmed as a third writer, who, according to Kurtzman, brought in a "fresh perspective"<ref name="kickoff">[http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/01/14/kicking-off-2009-with-writers-alex-kurtzman-and-roberto-orci-part-two-transformers-2/ Another interview with Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci]</ref>, and who reportedly impressed both director Michael Bay and [[Hasbro]] CEO [[Brian Goldner]] with his knowledge of ''Transformers'' mythology.<ref name="writersr">[http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/zap-transformers2writers,0,1938976.story Zap2it story about the ROTF writers]</ref>

In April 2009, Roberto Orci confirmed that cartoon voice actor [[Frank Welker]] would voice Soundwave.<ref name="welkers">[http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=12917 Roberto Orci confirming Welker as Soundwave]</ref> Welker had previously been considered as [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron's]] voice actor in the first movie, but ultimately Michael Bay had given that part to [[Hugo Weaving]] instead. Both Bay and the writers were also hoping that [[Leonard Nimoy]] could voice a character in the movie.<ref name="sciforc"> Bay later stated that he was nervous of asking his relative Nimoy to voice The Fallen for fear of offending him with the relatively low pay allotted to voice actors.<ref name="nimoy1">[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/04/21/michael-bay-afraid-to-offend-leonard-nimoy-with-transformers-family-reunion-offer/ ''Michael Bay Afraid To Offend Leonard Nimoy With ‘Transformers’ Family Reunion Offer'', MTV.com Movies blog, April 21, 2009]</ref> Even though Nimoy openly asked Bay to simply give him a call,<ref name="nimoy2">[http://www.latinoreview.com/news/leonard-nimoy-to-michael-bay-call-me-6682 Leonard Nimoy To Michael Bay: "Call Me!"], Latino Review</ref> it ultimately never worked out: after watching his guest appearance on ''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_The_Brave_and_the_Bold Batman: The Brave and the Bold]'', Bay selected [[Tony Todd]] - whom he worked with on ''The Rock'' - for the voice of The Fallen instead.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaN2g5i2k2E Interview with The Fallen himself - Tony Todd]</ref>

===Writing and production===
For the movie, Orci and Kurtzman searched the various ''Transformers'' comics and cartoons for "the most elemental bad guy", and eventually found one in [[The Fallen]].<ref name="sciforc"/>

In addition to that, they wanted to include many things in the sequel that hadn't made it into the first movie, including the Decepticon [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]. Likewise, the [[Matrix of Leadership]] had initially been intended to be used in the first movie, but for fear of confusion with the ''Matrix'' movies, the cube had been renamed into the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]]. In return, the Matrix in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' bears more resemblance to the ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] Matrix.

In late 2007, during pre-production for the then-untitled ''Transformers'' sequel, the [[wikipedia:2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike|Writers Guild of America went on strike]], but according to all parties involved, this didn't slow down preparations of the movie much in the long run. Screenwriters Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci turned in their first outline of the script the night before the strike officially began. During the strike, director Michael Bay used the script as a basis for preparing the movie. After the strike had ended, Kurtzman, Orci and Ehren Kruger continued their work on the script, based on Bay's changes.<ref name="kickoff"/> One consequence of this development was that Michael Bay and Hasbro had selected some of the new Transformers characters that were to appear in the movie during the strike, because of the long production run of the toys, while they had legally not been allowed to consult with the screenwriters.<ref name="sciforc"/> The "Twins", [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], are Bay's creation.<ref name="jive">[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/transformers-jivetalking-_n_220005.html Huffington Post article on accusations of racism with the "Twins", and Michael Bay and Reno Wilson's response.]</ref>

In early June of 2008, DreamWorks, Paramount and Hasbro officially confirmed the movie's title to be ''Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen''.<ref name="titleann">[http://www.reserveresult.com/2008/06/transformers-2-revenge-of-fallen.html One of the first announcements of the title, still with a "2" in it]</ref> A few weeks later, Roberto Orci confirmed that there would be no "2" in the title.<ref name="no2orci">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180738-no-2-transformers-2-a.html#post2173364 Roberto Orci confirming that there will be no "2" in the movie's title]</ref>

Principal shooting began in June 2008 in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.<ref name="pennlive">[http://blog.pennlive.com/lvbreakingnews/2008/06/shooting_starts_today_on_trans_1.html Pennlive story about the beginning of ROTF's principal shooting in Bethlehem]</ref> Other shooting sites were Philadelphia, the campus of Princeton University, Long Beach, the Holloman Air Force Base and the White Sands Missile Range in New Mexico. Some scenes were also shot in other countries, at the [[Wikipedia:Egyptian pyramids|Pyramids of Giza]] and in Luxor, Egypt, in Jordan and in Paris.

According to director Michael Bay, ''Revenge'' is the first movie in about 30 years to be given permission to shoot at the Pyramids of Giza, and the first movie ''ever'' to film on top of [[Wikipedia:Petra|Petra]].<ref name="bayclub">[http://www.transformersclub.com/tfrof-intv09.cfm Transformers Collectors' Club interview with Michael Bay]</ref> He obtained permission to film in Egypt by contacting Zahi Hawass, secretary general of Egypt's council of antiquities, who turned out to be a fan of the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie.<ref>[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 The Collider article and video interview with Michael Bay, February 9, 2009]</ref>

During the time of shooting, actor Shia LaBeouf suffered a severe injury of his left hand in a car accident. Ultimately, however, filming was only briefly halted, and his injury worked into the film, thereby not adversely affecting the filming schedule.<ref name="TheList2008">[http://www.list.co.uk/article/10788-shia-labeoufs-transformers-hand/ The List 1 August 2008]</ref> For the movie, director Michael Bay earned himself an entry in the Guiness Book of Records for the "biggest explosion on film with actors present".<ref name="guiness">[http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10579085 New Zealand Herald article mentioning Bay' Guiness Book entry]</ref>

===Sponsors and partners===
====Hasbro====
[[Hasbro]] once again acted both as a licensor and actively participated in the development of the movie. Together with the first ''Transformers'' movie, the ''[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]'' movie ''Rise of the Cobra'' and several other planned movie projects such as ''Monopoly'', ''Stretch Armstrong'' and ''Battleships'', ''Revenge of the Fallen'' marks the beginning of a new company policy for Hasbro, believing that the new "the movie of the toy" strategy will be more lucrative than the old "the toy of the movie" concept, which involves hefty licensing fees.<ref name="brandweek">[http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2009/db20090611_333306.htm Brandweek article on Hasbro's new movie-related business strategy]</ref> Still, director [[Michael Bay]] receives an 8% cut of all toy sales from the ''Transformers'' movies.<ref name="forbesbay">[http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2009/0622/celebrity-09-transformers-michael-bay-making-movies-enemies-money.html Michael Bay article on Forbes.com June 4, 2009]</ref> During the 2007–2008 Writers Guild of America strike, when nobody was legally allowed to consult with the screenwriters, Hasbro and Bay selected several of the new Transformers characters that were to appear in the movie.<ref name="sciforc"/>

====US military====
The [[United States military]] also supported the movie again, providing vehicles, shooting locations and military personnel that appear as extras in the movie.<ref name="milit">[http://www.military.com/entertainment/movies/movie-news/military-unites-with-hollywood-on-transformers?wh=entertainment American Forces Press Service press release about the US military's contribution to ROTF]</ref> Due to scheduling coincidences, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was given a larger support by the US Department of Defense than ''G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra'', which was produced at the same time. <ref name="dod">Jeff Schogol: [http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=62955 Stars and Stripes article about DOD support for ''revenge of the Fallen'' and ''G.I. Joe: Rise of the Cobra'']</ref> Initially, Bay had intended to include German Bundeswehr soldiers in the movie (presumably as members of [[NEST]] or on board the AWACS plane), but even though the soldiers were eager to participate, the German government denied the request.<ref name="szpremiere">[http://newsticker.sueddeutsche.de/list/id/657558 Report from the German press conference (in German laguage)]</ref>

====General Motors====
American car manufacturer General Motors once again provided vehicles that were used by the Autobots as their [[alternate mode]]s. Returning from the first movie were the GMC Topkick ([[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]), the Hummer H2 ([[ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]) and the new Chevrolet Camaro ([[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]), the latter this time as a slightly updated Z/28 model as compared to the first movie's concept car model. Newcomers for ''Revenge of the Fallen'' are all from the Chevrolet brand, namely the Chevrolet Beat ([[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]]), the Chevrolet Trax ([[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]), a new Chevrolet Corvette Stingray concept car ([[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]) and, as a last minute addition, the new Chevrolet Volt electric car ([[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]]).

In total, General Motors provided 67 vehicles, 52 of them being prototypes not intended for sale.<ref name="chevytroubles">[http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2009-06-15-gm-transformers_N.htm USA Today story on Chevrolet's participation in the movie]</ref> As a consequence of the 2007-onwards financial crisis, however, General Motors reduced their financial support for ''Revenge'' in April of 2009.<ref name="horsep">[http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cotown-transformers6-2009apr06,0,5419006.story LA Times story on General Motors cutting their support for ''Revenge of the Fallen'']</ref>

Director Michael Bay estimates that, without the support of General Motors and the military, production of the movie would have cost $10 million more than the $195 million ultimately spent.<ref name="forbesbay"/> Coinciding with the release of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', General Motors reported that sales of the new Chevrolet Camaro were so strong that orders were outrunning the supply, even though the car was being sold above MSRP in many places. A direct connection to the movie, however, could not be proven.<ref name="camarosells">[http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aZCnXEtqqTcc Bloomberg reporting on strong sales for the new Chevrolet Camaro]</ref>

====Product placement====
As in the first movie, numerous companies signed a deal with the filmmakers which allowed for their product being featured in prominent places in the movie. A Mountain Dew vending machine can be seen in [[Leo Spitz|Leo's]] room, computer screens feature visible Cisco logos, [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]] and [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]] intend to communicate via iChat, a huge HSBC logo is seen at Times Squre in New York City, a Budweiser bottle is prominently featured in one of the Paris scenes, CNN is everyone's preferred news channel, and a giant IMAX logo is seen inside the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. In return, Mars heavily advertised ''Revenge of the Fallen'' with their chocolate candy brand M&M's.

===Changes before, during and after production===
*The three Autobot motorcycles were at one point meant to combine into a larger robot, but this was ultimately abandoned for unknown reasons. Concept artwork for this combined mode has surfaced, and this feature was mentioned in the novelization and appears to remain in the toys.

*According to comic book writer [[Simon Furman]], the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] had been in an early draft of the movie's plot, but were dropped from the cast very early in development.<ref>[http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2009/01/29/no-dinobots-in-transformers-2-revenge-of-the-fallen-original-film-consultant-explains-why/ MTV Movie Blog interview with Simon Furman, January 29, 2009.]</ref>

* According to the pre-visualization animation from the movie DVD's bonus material, [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] was originally supposed to have a Lamborghini [[alternate mode]] as compared to the Audi R8 seen in the film.

*[[Springer (ROTF)|Springer]], an Autobot who transforms into a V-22 Osprey, was to be a character in the movie, but was dropped from the cast during production.<ref name="procterdesigns">[http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2772 Ben Procter's movie designs for ROTF]</ref> However, he was dropped so late during production that Hasbro still released [[Legends Class|Legends]] and [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] versions of the character based on the abandoned movie design–in the first waves of their respective assortments, no less.

*Likewise, the Deluxe Class [[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]] and Scout Class [[Depthcharge (ROTF)|Depthcharge]] and [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] toys are based on designs [[Ben Procter]] had originally created for the movie. Breakaway had the early working name "Firestorm", while Ransack was originally conceived as a [[Ford Model T Seeker|Ford Model T]].<ref name="procterdesigns"/>

*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] was originally intended to come to Earth and scan a black Chevrolet Silverado pick-up truck as his new [[alternate mode]]. The Deluxe Class Soundwave toy still retains some elements of this abandoned concept in robot mode, particularly a Cybertronian version of the Chevy grill and small headlights on the lower torso.

*Several plot points about the [[Dynasty of Primes]] were dropped from the final version of the film, but feature prominently in the adaptations. In the original version, the Dynasty was founded by [[Thirteen original Transformers|Thirteen Primes]], eleven of whom were killed by The Fallen, with [[Prima|the sole survivor]] sealing the Matrix in the Tomb of the Primes by himself. The Fallen returned to Cybertron and killed all the Primes' descendants, save the one hidden from him who had no knowledge of his ancestry: Optimus. Additionally, The Fallen would have been revealed to have promised Megatron the powers of a Prime, which Optimus would expose as impossible during the final battle around the harvester, causing Megatron and Starscream to leave The Fallen to his death.

* The Fallen was originally supposed to be trapped inside a triangular sarcophagus as seen in ''[[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]]''. ''Alliance'' writer [[Chris Mowry]] reportedly nearly spilled his coffee when he watched the movie for the first time and saw The Fallen just sitting in a chair inside the [[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]].<ref name="mowryallsp">[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=64301&view=findpost&p=1387145 COmments by Chris Mowry at the Allspark], November 2009</ref>

*One scene that didn't make it into the final movie would have explained [[Alice]]'s sorta-human disguise: In it, [[Leo Spitz|Leo]] watches a TV ad featuring an Alice in Wonderland animatronic from an amusement park, which heavily resembles Alice. The scene was featured in the [[Revenge of the Fallen issue 2|comic adaptation]] and the [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novelization]]. It's unclear if the scene has actually been filmed; however, the movie still features the follow-up scene in which Leo shows up to tell Sam ''something'' about Alice, only to see her robot tongue strangle him.

*Sam was to have been established as a new vessel for the AllSpark, absorbing its knowledge, which would have explained how he managed to get a scholarship to Princeton. When he was dying in Egypt, the knowledge of the AllSpark would then have transferred to the dust within the Matrix of Leadership, which was created by the AllSpark. The movie would have ended with Optimus showing Sam that he'd recovered the Matrix, which now replaced the Cube as the AllSpark's physical form.

*Another possibly dropped plot point involved an explanation for the government's cover-up of the [[Mission City]] battle in the [[Transformers (2007)|first movie]]. The robots would have been declared the creations of a company either named [[McClaren Robotics]] or [[Massive Dynamics]], which allegedly had gone rogue by accident. This is referenced in [[Alan Dean Foster]]'s [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novelization]] of the movie (where the company is named "Massive Dynamics"), the junior novelization ''[[The Last Prime]]'' and [[IDW Publishing]]'s [[Revenge of the Fallen issue 1|comic adaptation]] (where the company is named "McClaren Robotics"). A McClaren sign is also briefly seen in IDW's [[Alliance (comic)|''Alliance'' issue 4]]. An extensive casting call list leaked to the internet in April 2008 listed a "Massive Dynamics CEO" as one of the new characters.<ref name="iesbcall">[http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4663&Itemid=99 Casting call at IESB, April 2008]</ref> Presumably, actor Steve Tom was originally intended to play the character in the movie. His official website is listing him as appearing in ''Revenge'' ever since July 2008<ref name="stevetom">[http://stevetom.com/picsandresume.html Resume of actor Steve Tom]</ref>, even though he isn't actually listed in the film's credits. Back in July 2008, IMDB also listed Tom as playing the role of McClaren Robotics' CEO<ref name="tfwimdbtom">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-casting-steve-tom-as-robotics-ceo-katie-lowes-as-ra-165438/ TFW2005 referencing an (unarchived) IMDB entry for Steve Tom and his alleged role in ''Revenge'']</ref>, wheras Theiapolis Cinema listed him as the CEO of Massive Dynamics at the same time<ref name="theiarotf">[http://cinema.theiapolis.com/movie-2RLF/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen/cast.html Theiapolis Cinema entry for ''Revenge'']</ref>. It's unclear if the scenes featuring Tom were cut or dropped from the script before they were even filmed.

* [[Robert Epps|Epps']] wife, [[Monique Epps|Monique]], was also supposed to appear in the movie together with [[William Lennox|Lennox's]] wife [[Sarah Lennox|Sarah]]. The casting call from April 2008 lists her under the working name "Theresa".<ref name="iesbcall"/> The original plan was that [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]] would contact Epps and Lennox by calling their wives and asking them to pass on information to their husbands. This scene appears in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novelization]] and in IDW's [[Revenge of the Fallen issue 3|comic adaptation]]; in the movie, the wives are never seen, and instead of Sam, it is [[Seymour Simmons|Simmons]] who contacts Epps and Lennox directly.

===Disinformation===
====Persistent fake IMDB synopsis====
In July 2007, only a week after after ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' had premiered in the USA, nearly two years before ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was to premiere and half a year before a ''script'' would actually be written, a "synopsis" for the (at that point still untitled) sequel to ''Transformers'' was posted on IMDB<ref name="imdbsum">[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1055369/synopsis Fake "synopsis" for ROTF on IMDB]</ref>, containing vague guesses for a potential plot direction based on the first movie ([[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] returning to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and taking command of the remaining Decepticons–which would actually happen in [[IDW Publishing|IDW's]] ''[[The Reign of Starscream]]'' comic–and "[[Scorponok (Movie)|Skorpinox]]" [sic] stealing [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron's]] body from a military base, in contrast to the first film's actual ending), including several glaring spelling and grammar errors. The "synopsis" was eventually exposed as the work of ''Next'' and ''xXx: State of the Union'' director Lee Tamahori, who wanted to use it as a pitch to offer himself to [[Paramount Pictures|Paramount]] as a cheaper alternative for [[Michael Bay]].<ref name="tamahori">[http://defamer.gawker.com/hollywood/a-more-personal-kind-of-transformation/breaking-transformers-2-plot-synopsis-revealed-278307.php Gawker's Defamer reporting on the fake "synopsis" from IMDB, and updating with information about its true origins]</ref> Regardless, the "synopsis" was still heavily featured by other websites, including foreign theaters and media<ref name="prosieben">[http://www.prosieben.de/kino_dvd/previews/film/ German TV station feature about ROTF using the fake IMDB "synopsis"]</ref>, despite multiple evidence (trailers, official information provided by Paramount, leaked information about the involvement of a character named "[[The Fallen]]") suggesting that the alleged "plot" was pretty much bunk. The fake synopsis ''still'' persists in some places even after ''Revenge'' has already hit theaters, despite being directly refuted by the film itself.<ref name="dvdlisting">[http://www.comicsandcardsupplies.com/jul091794.html Premature preorder for the ROTF DVD featuring the fake IMDB "synopsis"]</ref>

====Fake treatment====
In October 2007, an alleged treatment for the (at that point still unnamed) ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' sequel surfaced on the internet.<ref name="treat">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2007/10/transfomers-2-leaked-script.html The Transformers Live Action Movie Blog reporting on the alleged treatment], October 2007.</ref> While producer [[Don Murphy]] soon claimed that it wasn't real<ref name="murphyfake">[http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showpost.php?p=1052166&postcount=52 Don Murphy denies the authenticity of the leaked treatment], October 2007.</ref>, [[Michael Bay]]'s website administrator Nelson Lauren countered by suggesting that it wasn't a fan creation<ref name="nelsonfake1">Nelson's deliberately misleading comments regarding the alleged treatment at the [http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=435346&postcount=26 official Live Action Movie boards] and at [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?&showtopic=37905&st=20&p=759450&#entry759450 The Allspark], October 2007.</ref>, then referred to an ambiguous post he had made a few days earlier, in which he had hinted that information might be spread that would not be entirely reliable.<ref name="nelsonfake2">[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1590&postcount=1 Nelson's ambiguous "telling the truth in a false way" post] at the official Michael bay forums, October 2007.</ref> What followed was a brief back-and-forth with Murphy accusing Nelson of "stirring shit up"<ref name="murphynelson">[http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=22721 Don Murphy's response to Nelson's statements], October 2007.</ref>, which prompted Nelson to counter that he had better sources than Murphy<ref name="nelsonsources">[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=37905&st=60&p=761181&#entry761181 Nelson's counter to Don Murphy...] No, we stop here. You get the idea.</ref>.

====Michael Bay's alleged disinformation campaign====
In April 2008, director Michael Bay claimed he had initiated a huge disinformation campaign in order to prevent content details from the movie being revealed to the public before he wanted them to.<ref name="misinf">[http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/a94406/bay-tries-to-fool-transformers-fans.html Mirrored copy of Michael Bay's original claims about his alleged "disinformation campaign"]. Bay apparently deleted his original post from his official message board.</ref> Ultimately, Bay himself turned out to be the main source of genuine disinformation, despite claiming that ''only'' what he said was 100% true. Therefore, the disinformation campaign mostly hinged on fans believing in its existence, and rejecting any genuinely "leaked" information, including set photos, statements by third parties such as [[Hasbro]] or [[IDW Publishing]] and stolen toy [[prototype]]s, as "disinformation". Screenwriter Roberto Orci eventually admitted that the disinformation campaign wasn't really working.<ref name="orcicampaign">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-150.html#post2437185 Roberto Orci confirming Michael Bay's biggest fear: The disinformation campaign doesn't work!]</ref>

In June 2008, when principal shooting had just begun, a call sheet was leaked to the internet<ref name="bethcall">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/bethlehem-call-sheet-cast-tf-and-next.html Leaked call sheet at the Transformers Live Action Movie Blog], June 5, 2008</ref>, which revealed the casting of [[Ramon Rodriguez]] as a character named "[[Leo Spitz|Leo]]", the appearance of an [[Sideways (ROTF)|Audi R8]] and [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] as well as a character with the working name "[[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Stinger]]". Furthermore, an ice cream truck that had just been spotted on the Bethlehem set a day earlier<ref name="bethfirst">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-2-bethlehem-images---update---ironhide-on-set-165046/ Set photos from the Bethlehem shoot at TFW2005], June 4, 2008</ref> was hinted to be two characters only referred to as "[[Skids (ROTF)|The]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Twins]]". Lastly, the call sheet revealed that the next shooting location would be the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, where an SR-71 Blackbird would be revealed to be a Decepticon named [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]]. A character named "[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheels]]" was also supposed to appear in that scene. In July 2008, Bay then claimed that fake scripts, treatments, "wrong schedules and call sheets with fake scenes on them" had been deliberately leaked to the internet.<ref name="bayfakescript">[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44729&postcount=2 Michael Bay's forum post claiming that only he and the writers had seen the script]</ref>

For the longest time, Bay upheld the position that [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] would ''not'' return in ''Revenge of the Fallen''. After concept designs of Megatron's new [[alternate mode]] had surfaced (some of which would later turn out to be designs for the RPM Megatron toy, while the first ones that surfaced were far too advanced for mere "toy" designs<ref name="megsleak">Various leaks of the new Megatron design for ROTF mirrored at the Transformers Live Action Movie Blog, September 2008: [http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/09/tf2-megatron-image.html Robot mode design], [http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/09/megatrons-alt-mode.html concept art for the alternate mode], [http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/09/megatron-toy-pictures.html control drawings for Megatron's RPM vehicle toy]</ref>), Bay insisted that this was "just Hasbro coming up with a new toy", and Megatron would not appear in the movie.<ref name="EmpireFeb2009">''Empire'' magazine issue 236, dated February 2009, pages 68 and 69, article entitled "20 to watch in 2009", written by Nick de Semelyn</ref> Following ''officially released'' evidence to the contrary (including Megatron's brief appearance in the February 1 Superbowl TV spot and the February teaser trailer), screenwriter [[Roberto Orci]] confirmed that Megatron would indeed return.<ref name="mreturns">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-211.html#post3333713 Roberto Orci confirming Megatron's return on TFW2005.com - February 22, 2009]</ref> Shortly afterwards, Bay retracted his claims, but not entirely, suggesting that Megatron would only appear in a flashback scene "from the long lost past", despite the fact Megatron could be seen pinning [[Sam Witwicky]] to the ground in the aforementioned TV spot and teaser trailer. He also denied that Megatron would transform into a tank.<ref name="catoutbag">[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66825&postcount=4 Bay retracting from his claims about Megatron on his forum - March 6, 2009]</ref>

====General Motors and the Chevrolet Volt====
In August 2008, after a Chevrolet Volt vehicle had been spotted on the set of ''Revenge'', General Motors reluctantly admitted having provided the car to the production crew, and that the car would indeed appear in the film, but claimed that it was no production vehicle (i.e. some details may differ from the final car, similar to Bumblebee's Concept Camaro in the first movie). Chevrolet also claimed that the Volt was only used for one or two days of shooting, and that it would only "appear in the movie very briefly", and "not as a Decepticon or Autobot", so it would "not have a Transformer nickname".<ref name="edmundsjolt">[http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=131426 Edmunds Inside Line article on the Chevrolet Volt spotted on the set], August 2008</ref> (While it's true that [[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]] was a last-minute addition to the movie, the car was spotted again later at a different set.<ref name="joltwhite">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/09/chevy-volt-at-white-sands-set.html Set photos from White Sands Missile Range] including the Chevrolet Volt, September 2008.</ref>)

====Edited IDW interviews====
Bay and/or Paramount also tried to have information prematurely revealed by third parties contained after the fact: During San Diego Comic-Con 2008, in an interview on July 25th, comic book writer [[Simon Furman]] revealed that the film would feature a character named [[The Fallen]], which was a character they had created for [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s ''[[War Within: The Dark Ages|The War Within: The Dark Ages]]''.<ref name="furmancbr">[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17412Simon Furman interview with Comic Book Resources], edited version.</ref> Three days later, [[IDW Publishing]] writer [[Chris Mowry]] corroborated the claim in an interview with MTV Splash Page, calling "The Fallen" the main villain of ''Revenge''. [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] was also confirmed in the same interview.<ref name="mowrymtv">[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/28/exclusive-transformers-2-prequel-comic-gives-inside-scoop-on-2009-movie/ MTV Splash Page interviews Chris Mowry], edited version.</ref> Less than a week after this, however, Michael Bay reiterated that everything leaked thus far was part of his alleged disinformation campaign, and that only a handful of people involved with the production of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' had actually seen the script, contradicting IDW's interviews where their representatives confirmed that they had the script. Additionally, Bay claimed the only truth about the film revealed up to that point was Sam going to college.<ref name="bayfakescript"/> Curiously, on August 5th 2008, after a fan had pointed out the contradiction to Bay, all references to The Fallen (and Arcee) were removed from the aforementioned interviews, as well as any references to IDW Publishing having the script.<ref name="interviewsoriginal">[http://tfwiki.net/~fortmax/movie/index.html Mirrored copies of the unedited versions of the interviews.]</ref>

====Other (minor) instances of disinformation and misconceptions====
Other (in)famous instances of disinformation included an alleged sighting of both [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz's]] Pontiac Solstice vehicle mode and voice actor [[Darius McCrary]] on the Bethlehem set<ref name="jazzrumor">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/autobot-jazz-is-back-for-transformers-movie-sequel-165008/ TFW reporting on the alleged sightings of the Jazz Pontiac Solstice and voice actor Darius McCrary], May 2008</ref> (it's ''possible'' that someone mistook an [[Sideways (ROTF)|Audi R8]] or the [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Chevrolet Corvette concept car]] for a Pontiac Solstice, and McCrary ''might'' have genuinely visited the set out of sheer curiosity) and an "update" to a (legitimate) casting call that contained nothing but fake character names and descriptions<ref name="fakecall">[http://spoilertv-movies.blogspot.com/2008/04/transformers-2.html Fake casting call at Spoiler TV], April 2008. Note: Everything up until "CNN Reporter" originates from another, legitimate casting call; everything from "Head of Sector 7" onwards is made up.</ref>, including a funeral director who would allegedly bury [[Seymour Simmons|Simmons]]. It's unclear whether any of these were instances of deliberate disinformation on behalf of Bay, or just attention-seeking fans coming up with made-up "scoops" on their own. Futhermore, three of [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade's]] Saleen Mustang prop vehicles were spotted on a truck bed in Culver City, California, in March 2008, more than two months before principal shooting for ''Revenge'' started.<ref name="vehspotted">[http://www.superherohype.com/news/transformersnews.php?id=6980 Superhero Hype reporting on the spotting of Barricade vehicles in March 2008]</ref> It's unclear if this was an instance of deliberate disinformation, or just a genuine move of the vehicles with no further intention beind it.

==Notes==
*The official title of the film is ''Revenge of the Fallen'' (with a lower-case "t" in "the") even though it is apparently referring to [[The Fallen]] (with a capital "T" in "The").
*Leo's room features posters for [[Wikipedia:Naruto|Naruto]], [[Wikipedia:Cloverfield|Cloverfield]], and [[Wikipedia:Bad Boys 2|Bad Boys 2]].
*During the scenes set in and around the deli in NYC, posters for the bands [[Wikipedia:Catch 22 (band)|Catch Twenty-Two]] and [[wikipedia:Voodoo Glow Skulls|Voodoo Glow Skulls]] are prominently featured.
*Even though ''Revenge'' features mostly domestic voice actors for the foreign market dubs, [[Frank Welker]] voiced [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] not only in English, but also in in a large number of foreign dubs, including the Italian and French versions. As a result, in the Italian dub of the movie, Soundwave speaks with a strange, foreign accent. Welker is also credited for an unspecified voice role in the Latin Spanish dub, most likely Soundwave again. Furthermore, Welker is ''incorrectly'' credited for voicing Soundwave in the German dub, even though German dubbing insiders insist that the voice heard in the actual movie has been provided by someone else ([[Horst Lampe]], who also dubbed ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]]), presumably as a last-minute decision because Welker's "German" performance was considered sub-standard.<ref name="germandub">[http://215072.homepagemodules.de/t511643f11775323-Transformers-Die-Rache-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen-7.html German dubbing board thread about ROTF, with a discussion about Soundwave's voice]</ref> Welker described the entire process of dubbing Soundwave in different languages as "very hard".<ref name="welkernewsarama">[http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090915-Animated-Shorts-Welker.html Newsarama interview with Frank Welker], September 2009.</ref>
*The prequel novel introduced other Autobots into the ranks of [[NEST]]—[[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]], [[Salvage (Movie)|Salvage]], and [[Knock Out (ROTF)|Knockout]]. They were present up until the events directly leading into the Shanghai incident, but were not present for any of the events featured in the film or adaptations. {{storylink|The Veiled Threat}}
* While ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' used 20 terabytes of disk space for visual effects, ''Revenge of the Fallen'' used 154 terabytes.<ref>Robertson, Barbara (2009). Weighty Matters. Computer Graphics World, 32(7), 20-29</ref>
* The Chinese name for ''Revenge of the Fallen'' was called "[[wikia:c:starwars:Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back|Decepticon Strikes Back]]" for a while before the title was changed into "The War of Revenge" in theaters and media in Taiwan around mid to late 2008.

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersmovie.com Dreamworks/Paramount's ''Transformers'' Movie website]
*[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/ Hasbro's ''Transformers'' homepage]
*Designer portfolios: [http://www.joshnizzi.com/ Josh Nizzi], [http://www.ryanchurch.com/images/tf2/04PRO_TF2.htm Ryan Church], [http://skulboyfilmwork.blogspot.com/2009/07/transformers-revenge-of-fallen.html Duncan Crawford], [http://www.paulozzimo.com/ Paul Ozzimo], [http://www.stevejung.net/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4 Steve Jung], [http://conceptartworld.com/?p=2772 Ben Procter], [http://www.seanhaworth.com/SH_Design/Portfolio/Portfolio.html Sean Haworth]
*[http://www.collider.com/entertainment/interviews/article.asp/aid/10866/tcid/1 Interview with Michael Bay 02/09/2009] — Collider.com

==References==
{{Reflist|2}}

[[Category:Real world films]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen]]

Backfire (TF 2010)

2011-01-17T21:58:12Z

Durge: /* Transformers (2010) */

{{faction|autobotfilm}}
{{disambig2|the Autobot from the 2010 Transformers toyline|the Decepticon from Generation 1|Backfire (G1)}}
:''Backfire is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Backfirepackageart2010.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]

While some may see ordinary civilian traffic as an obstacle, the speedy '''Backfire''' has mastered the art of using it to his advantage. Moving vehicles are no different from stationary ones to him as he scours the roads for the elusive [[Oil Pan]].
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==Toys==
===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TF2010-toy_Backfire.jpg|thumb|right|300px|''Isn't there a white knight <strike>upon</strike> who becomes a fiery steed?'']]
*'''Backfire''' (Scout Class, 2010)

:Backfire is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Knock Out (ROTF)|Knock Out]], transforming into a red and white racing motorcycle of undetermined model. In robot mode, he has a non-firing cannon for a right hand. The vehicle side panels, which become leg [[kibble]] in robot mode, are held in place by unbolted pegs and tend to pop off during conversion. It would seem that while all his wave 1 casemates have been found at retail in the UK, Backfire has only appeared in Sainsbury's.

:This mold was also used to make ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Reverb (ROTF)|Reverb]] and [[Trenchmouth]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/Backfire/backfire.htm More information on Backfire at TFU.info]''

[[Category:Toy-only characters]]
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Autobots]]

Talk:Topspin (G1)

2011-01-03T14:50:26Z

Durge: /* Switched Tech Specs? */

So when do we get to learn what line Fan Club Topspin will be released under? I want to put up a stub. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'd be hard-pressed to think he won't be under "Timelines". I mean, weren't Landquake and Breakaway? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
::Pete's promised Breakaway's instructions will say "Classics," and also said that Landquake's "Timelines" categorization was a mistake. It was supposed to be "Cybertron." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:55, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

== Switched Tech Specs? ==

My G1 Topspin box still has the tech spec attached but whereas it says Jumpstarter Topspin, it clearly features Twin Twist in the picture- was this common for all G1 Topspin boxes? Im assuming Twin Twist's tech spec has Topspin on it. --[[User:Durge|Durge]] 09:47, 3 January 2011 (EST)

Ahh, this has already been called up on Twin Twist's page- my mistake. --[[User:Durge|Durge]] 09:50, 3 January 2011 (EST)

Talk:Topspin (G1)

2011-01-03T14:47:35Z

Durge: /* Switched Tech Specs? */ new section

User:Durge

2011-01-03T13:46:50Z

Durge: /* Facts about Durge */

Good day reader.

==Facts about Durge==

*Durge hails from Britain.
*Durge is both a fan of a certain seeker jet that dies a lot and a certain Star Wars bounty hunter that also dies a lot. Durge likes Thundercracker too.
*Durge is not old enough to remember the G1 cartoon and thus he happily defends Beast Wars and Armada from their respective haters. G1 is good too though- the movie especially.
*durge often refuses to type capital letters.
*Durge choses to refer to himself in the 3rd person for no apparent reason.
*Durge thanks you for reading his page- bar weep grah nah weep mini bar to you too :)
*Death does not come to all who cross me- Durge wants every to get along for the good of the TF online community.
*Durge's favourite figure would be his Armada Super Prime. Yes, he's a brick but i grew up with Armada Optimus- thus to me his toy rocks. He also has a big gun.

User:Durge

2011-01-03T00:26:16Z

Durge:

Good day reader.

==Facts about Durge==

*Durge hails from Britain.
*Durge is both a fan of a certain seeker jet that dies a lot and a certain Star Wars bounty hunter that also dies a lot. Durge is also British by birth. Durge likes Thundercracker too.
*Durge is not old enough to remember the G1 cartoon and thus he happily defends Beast Wars and Armada from their respective haters. G1 is good too though- the movie especially.
*durge often refuses to type capital letters.
*Durge choses to refer to himself in the 3rd person for no apparent reason.
*Durge thanks you for reading his page- bar weep grah nah weep mini bar to you too :)
*Death does not come to all who cross me- Durge wants every to get along for the good of the TF online community.
*Durge's favourite figure would be his Armada Super Prime. Yes, he's a brick but i grew up with Armada Optimus- thus to me his toy rocks. He also has a big gun.

User:Durge

2011-01-03T00:22:20Z

Durge: New page: Good day reader. -Durge is both a fan of a certain seeker jet that dies a lot and a certain Star Wars bounty hunter that also dies a lot. Durge is also British by birth. -Durge is not old ...

Good day reader.
-Durge is both a fan of a certain seeker jet that dies a lot and a certain Star Wars bounty hunter that also dies a lot. Durge is also British by birth.
-Durge is not old enough to remember the G1 cartoon and thus he happily defends Beast Wars and Armada from their respective haters. G1 is good too though- the movie especially.
-durge often refuses to type capital letters.
-Durge choses to refer to himself in the 3rd person for no apparent reason.
-Durge thanks you for reading his page- bar weep grah nah weep mini bar to you too :)
-Death does not come to all who cross me- Durge wants every to get along for the good of the TF online community.

Smokescreen (G1)

2011-01-03T00:12:10Z

Durge: /* Generation 1 Series */

{{factions|autobot|autobotg2|unicron}}
{{disambig3|Smokescreen}}
:''Smokescreen is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Continuity family|continuity family]].''

[[Image:Smokescreeng1.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Liar. Cheater. Compulsive gambler. Meet Heroic Autobot Smokescreen, kids!]]
Every Autobot has a purpose, be it as a leader, a warrior, a healer, or a scout. '''Smokescreen'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s purpose, however, is to charm and deceive. His job is to conceal the Autobots' true mission and lead the enemy astray, and he's not above flat-out cheating to get the job done. Off the battlefield, he uses his naturally friendly and sociable nature to get in close with his Autobot comrades... then reports back to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], giving the Autobot leader an on-the-ground perspective on what his troops are thinking.

Smokescreen's armaments are similar to his tactics. If he can't outthink, charm, or just plain outrun you, he'll surround you with a magnetized cloud of smoke, and blast you with his circuit-scrambling weapons while you're stumbling around blindly. Smokescreen affectionately refers to his teammate [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] as "P.G." <ref>The Ballentine [[Find Your Fate Junior]] book [[Desert Flight]]</ref>

:''Portuguese name (Brazil comic):'' '''Cortina'''
:''Portuguese name (Portugal comic):'' '''Cortina de Fumo'''
:''French-Canadian name'': '''Écran de Fumée''' 
:''Hungarian name'': '''Füstfelhő''' (meaning Cloud Of Smoke) 
:''Italian name'': '''Leo'''
:''Russian name'': '''Дымовик''' (Dymovik)'''Smoke-man'''

==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Jack Angel]] (English), [[Masashi Ebara]] (Japanese), [[Juan Carralero]] (Latin American)

[[Image:Smokescreen.jpg|left|200px|thumb|What a blockhead!]]
Smokescreen joined the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s Autobots during their second year after reactivation on Earth. Where he was beforehand remains a mystery. He was first seen watching from the sidelines during the latest disaster caused by the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]' "training". {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} Smokescreen was chosen by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] to join a strike force headed for [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]], after some mysterious temporal disturbances were traced there. They were nearly overrun by the Decepticon invaders on the island, until [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] marshalled a cavalry of rampaging dinosaurs.{{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}}

On their day off, Smokescreen played a game of 2-on-2 with Prime, [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], shooting hoops and shooting the breeze. It, of course, didn't last—soon Optimus Prime summoned a strike force to deal with a Disaster: Code Blue. It should've been a Code Green: green for [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s! Grapple had been conned into building a Solar Power Tower for the Decepticons, and now [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] was protecting it from Autobot interference. Smokescreen stepped up in his role as a diversionary specialist, creeping up on the tower so that Devastator couldn't see him. Once he was close enough, Smokescreen taunted the giant Decepticon into throwing a size 60 kick in his direction, but darted aside at the last moment, letting the tower take the blow instead. An off-balance Devastator was then knocked into the already-damaged tower by the Autobots, bringing it all tumbling down. {{storylink|The Master Builders}}

Smokescreen was part of the Autobot team overseeing the [[Negavator]] project. When the Decepticons staged an ambush on the Negavator convoy in a canyon, Smokescreen was easily the most effective defender out of all the Autobots. As [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] swooped to purloin the unguarded Negavator during the battle, Smokescreen unleashed his magnetic cloud of smoke, completely obscuring the weapon. Megatron ended up flying face-first into the Negavator (Smokescreen - 1, Megatron - 0). The [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s also got caught in his cloud, and the magnetic vapor stuck to them even as they flew free. A few well-placed disruptor beams later, and Smokescreen rendered the jets totally helpless, unable to see or use their radars or instruments for guidance. Smokescreen singlehandedly held off the Decepticon attack until the other Autobots could regroup and drive them off completely. {{storylink|Auto Berserk}}

After Megatron acquired power from the [[Heart of Cybertron]], the Autobots were being slaughtered by his constant barrage of energy beams. At Optimus Prime's request, only Smokescreen could save the day. Once again, Smokescreen managed to blind Megatron with his smoke clouds, leaving the Decepticon leader unable to aim his death rays. Smokescreen was still clipped by a stray shot, but he had valiantly bought the other Autobots enough time to regroup, and their combined laser power collapsed the hillside on top of Megatron, giving them a chance to retreat. For those keeping score, let's call that one a draw. {{storylink|Microbots}}

As the Decepticons attacked a newly-minted solar power plant, Smokescreen and the Autobots arrived to thwart their efforts. Some sustained firepower kept Starscream at bay, and Smokescreen's disruptor beams blew out [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]'s guidance systems. As the hopelessly outmatched Decepticons fled, the human onlookers flocked to the Autobots, showering them with praise and adoration. Of course, 72 hours later, the Autobots were being led into a rocket ship at gunpoint, forced into exile away from planet Earth. Fickle little creatures. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} Smokescreen and the Autobots eventually returned to Earth and cleared their good name, driving off the Decepticons and ending their stranglehold on [[Central City (G1)|Central City]]. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

When the Decepticons kidnapped [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]], Smokescreen volunteered for the rescue mission. Acting in his duty as the Autobots' devious and covert morale officer, Smokescreen showed considerable concern for the laconic [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]]. While [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] shrugged him off as being "a thinker, not a fighter", Smokescreen was a bit suspicious about how Beachcomber was isolating himself from his fellow Autobots. Still, more immediate concerns took precedence: the [[electrum]]-enhanced Decepticon armada. When it became clear that the Decepticons were impervious to their assault, [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] went back to base for reinforcements, and Smokescreen stayed behind to cover his retreat. He unleashed his signature cloud of smoke to discourage the Decepticons, but unfortunately Megatron had learned something from previous fights with Smokescreen, and just ordered his troops to shoot up the cloud until they got 'em. Painfully for Smokescreen, it was a rousing success (Smokescreen - 1, Megatron - 1). He barely managed to stumble weakly back to base and recruit [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] for combat. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon}}

Smokescreen was part of a group of Autobots who confronted the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]]s and their clones during their raid on Earth's food supplies. [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] had produced the largest army of Insecticlones yet, however, and the Autobots were quickly driven away by their sheer numbers. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}} When San Francisco was attacked by an [[Asteroid bird alien|alien creature]], Smokescreen lent his own unique ability to the Autobot defensive effort. Although his smokescreen drove the creature off the streets, it was still only a delaying action until Omega Supreme arrived to drive the alien off planet Earth. {{storylink|The Secret of Omega Supreme}}

After being transported to a planet of giant aliens, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] failed to introduce Smokescreen to the alien boy [[Aron]]. Smokescreen didn't seem to mind. {{storylink|Child's Play (episode)|Child's Play}} After fleeing the planet in a modified toy rocket ship, the group of Autobots were captured by a freelance entrepreneur named [[Bosch]]. Bosch planned to sell them into slavery and make a tidy profit in the bargain. He sealed the Autobots inside special chambers to disable their weapons, their transforming cogs, and their free will. Unfortunately for Bosch, he was low on energon and the last tube failed to operate properly, giving Smokescreen a chance to break free. The Autobot was paralyzed by a ray beam before he could disable Bosch, and so he changed tactics. Smokescreen showed Bosch how to win (well, ''cheat'') at a game of chance, thanks to his built-in override wire. Seeing the profit in Smokescreen's l33t cheating skills, Bosch arranged for them to go to the gambling world of [[Monacus]]. Once they won enough energon chips to pay off Bosch's debts, he would free Smokescreen's fellow Autobots. Problem was, Bosch was virtually spent already, and so the will-sapped Autobots needed to be used as collateral to get enough money up front to play.

On Monacus, no one seemed interested in Bosch and Smokescreen's collateral, until they were forced to deal with the sinister [[Gyconi|Lord Gyconi]], of Gyconi's Pit of Destruction in [[Sheol]]. Gyconi offered them a meager price, at 500% interest to be paid within the hour. Horrible as the deal was, they were forced to take it. At the gambling palace, Smokescreen quickly proved to be just the sort of sucker casinos love to have around. He continued playing long after they had won enough money, and lost it all on one bet when a small Jawa looking creature noticed his "cheatin' wire" and pulled it loose. Well done, Smokescreen.

[[Image:Smokescreen gambler 4.jpg|170px|thumb|right|The best way to cheat is to make ambiguously suggestive comments about your cheating. Extra points for making sly winks and nudging your friends.]]

While drowning their sorrows in the local speakeasy, Smokescreen and Bosch met another Autobot named [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]]. Having left Cybertron long ago, Devcon became a bounty hunter, pursuing Decepticons throughout known space. His recent travels had brought him into the path of [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and some Decepticons from Earth, whom he had traced to Sheol. Parting from Devcon, Smokescreen and Bosch returned to Gyconi's empty-handed. Forced to watch as Gyconi put the Autobots into pit-fighting competition with a horde of [[Animalien]]s, Smokescreen resolved to do something to help his friends. Backing up to the edge of the arena floor in car mode, Smokescreen unleashed his cloud into the pit, ending the fights for the moment. As he and Bosch tried to get away, they were intercepted by Gyconi's Decepticon allies, [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. Luckily, Devcon returned in time to lend them a hand, blowing the 'Cons out of the sky. With the bounty hunter as backup, Smokescreen and Bosch decided to force Gyconi to give back the Autobots (essentially, making them welshers as well as cheats). After the Autobots were safely recovered and reactivated, Smokescreen showed he had learned a valuable lesson about gambling by suggesting the Autobots take in some R & R...at the casino. {{storylink|The Gambler}}

Smokescreen was one of the first Autobots scrambled by the energy creature known as [[Kremzeek]]. He was sent running in circles, jumping between modes and emitting copious amounts of smoke every time he landed in car mode. {{storylink|Kremzeek!}} When [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] and the Constructicons captured several Autobots in their "zone defense", Smokescreen joined [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] and [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] on a mission to get their friends out of the sinister maze. With Powerglide calling out the right route from his aerial vantage point, the two groundbound Autobots easily made their way to the center of the maze. Smokescreen's smoke blinded [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] long enough for Hoist to lasso their damaged friends and begin pulling them to safety. When Blitzwing tried to intervene, the smoke ended up sending him flying into Scrapper while the Autobots got away. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}} Smokescreen was assigned to a guardian convoy when the Autobots were given samples of a new Earth super-fuel to test out. Naturally, Megatron and the Decepticons tried to steal it, but the Autobots largely managed to outmaneuver the Decepticons from the road. When Megatron flew in close and threatened to blow them all to kingdom come by igniting the super-fuel, Smokescreen launched into his signature move. Hey, if it works, it works—Megatron was blinded yet again by the Autobot's magnetic smoke, and flew when he started taking heavy fire from the Autobot convoy (Smokescreen - 2, Megatron - 1). {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} Later on, Smokescreen was among the Autobots who battled the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] in an attempt to retrieve the key to [[Vector Sigma]]. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

Smokescreen was amongst the Autobot participants in the [[Europa 2000]], a charity race from Paris to Istanbul. While the Autobots were ostensibly there to try and win extra money for charity, they were secretly assigned to protect the arrogant American driver [[Auggie Cahnay (G1)|Auggie Cahnay]]. Smokescreen was making good progress in the race until he was rammed off the road by [[Wildrider]] and [[Drag Strip]], then broadsided by the other Stunticons. After crawling back onto the road, he was discovered by [[Bluestreak]]. {{storylink|Trans-Europe Express}}

Although hidden behind [[Hound (G1)|Hound]], Smokescreen was among the Autobots assembled to rescue Perceptor from Fox Creek Canyon. He was temporarily infected with [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|cosmic rust]], but recovered thanks to the miraculous powers of [[Corrostop]] (at least [[Binaltech|this time]]). {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}

{{note|In the original Storyboards for [[The Transformers: The Movie]], it was Smokescreen who lay dead, rather than [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]].}}
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===Japanese cartoon continuity===
====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic====

When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s attacked [[Tokyo]], Smokescreen accompanied [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and a unit of Autobot vehicles to defend the city. After Prime rescued a small boy named [[Kenji]], Smokescreen was put in charge of protecting the child. As Kenji buckled up inside Smokescreen's vehicle mode, the talkative Autobot immediately began yammering on about himself, telling Kenji about his function, vehicle mode and loads of other tedious crap. His speech was cut short by the sudden arrival of [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], however. While [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] and [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] took Menasor's punches to the face, Kenji recommended Smokescreen, Prime and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] drive up a nearby ramp and use the speed and height to punch Menasor in the face. The plan worked swimmingly, as Smokescreen socked Starscream in the chest (somehow transforming to robot mode without crushing Kenji) and sent the Decepticons into retreat. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 1}}

====''Full Throttle Scramble Power!'' comic====
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{{storylink|Full Throttle Scramble Power!}}

====''Story of Binaltech''====
When the Decepticons unleashed [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] on Earth, Smokescreen was one of the many Autobots infected with the virus. As [[Earth Defense Command]] created the [[Genetronic Translink System|Binaltech Project]] in order to help the Autobots, Smokescreen was the first patient to undergo transference into an [[Electro-cell|electro-cell]] powered new body. {{storylink|Story of Binaltech, Chapter 1}} With the help of his fellow Binaltech Autobots, Smokescreen and his new power helped drive the Decepticons off the planet. {{storylink|Arise! Evil Binaltechs}} He remained part of the soldiers based at Autobot City on Earth. As [[Chip Chase]] developed the new Genetronic Translink system, Smokescreen volunteered to be the first Autobot outfitted with the tech. Thanks to the GT system, his spark was transplanted into [[subspace]], allowing him to connect with multiple autonomous Binaltech bodies simultaneously. {{storylink|GT Units Online!}}

Many months later, two Smokescreen GT units served alongside [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] as back-up for [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] as he infiltrated Cybertron. {{storylink|Kill Switch}}

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====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
[[Image:JHeadmasters01SmokescreenEtc.jpg|thumb|]]
Smokescreen was present on [[Athenia]] to hear [[Hound (G1)|Hound]]'s theories about the [[Vector Sigma]] supercomputer. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}}

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===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
[[Image:Skidsgrapplesmokescreenhoisttracks.jpg|left|200px|thumb|He's here to replace [[Bluestreak]].]]
When the Autobot forces on Earth were severely depleted by several battles, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] instructed [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] to construct five additional warriors using a device called the Mind Bank. It seems that before the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] left [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Smokescreen and four other Autobots allowed their minds to be encoded on crystalline containment vessels, in case reinforcements were needed on the starship's mission. Left in storage for the last few million years after the crash, the crystals were miraculously still intact, and the Ark had constructed new Earthen bodies for the Autobots. Upon their revival, Smokescreen and his fellows were entrusted to [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s care, to act as their guide in adapting to Earth roads and customs.

[[Image:Smokescreendriver.jpg|right|100px|thumb|Smokescreen's [[Facsimile construct|facsimile circuitry]] driver is Burt Bacharach!]]
As their training and acclimation mission continued, Prime contacted the group and ordered them on an additional reconnaissance mission to watch out for a Decepticon attempt to steal sonic energy at a local rock concert. Naturally, their "reconnaissance only" mission quickly turned into a battle with [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]], but Smokescreen and the others acquitted themselves well on their first terrestrial mission. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}

''Later, Smokescreen was assigned by Optimus Prime to surreptitiously guard [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] from harm, after the young human personally humiliated the Decepticon commander Shockwave in battle using a mech suit. Taking [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]], and Buster's worried father [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] with him, Smokescreen followed Buster and [[Jesse|Jessie]] to a demolition derby. Smokescreen was fascinated by the spectacle, seeing it as a form of gladiatorial combat. In fact, he was SO fascinated that he reactivated his [[facsimile construct]] circuitry in his front seat without realizing that Sparkplug had climbed back inside. An unpleasant silence followed.'' {{storylink|Devastation Derby!}}

Smokescreen was among the Autobots who witnessed the debut of [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], and he participated in the subsequent attack on the Decepticons' coal strip mine base. Once Bumblebee had extracted combiner technology data from Devastator, Smokescreen and the others retreated. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

''When Optimus Prime, [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] mysteriously vanished in a flash of light, Smokescreen shone under adversity and, alongside the likes of [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and Ironhide, rose to a command position among the Autobots during their battles with the evil [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and his minions. He and the others suffered a severe pounding at the hands of the future Decepticons and the Autobot [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], who had been temporarily turned into a zombie-drone by Galvatron after being taken prisoner. At one point, Jetfire was ready to pack it in and lead the Autobots in a retreat, but Smokescreen rallied them into continuing the fight.'' {{storylink|Target: 2006}}

''Despite Smokescreen's valiance, Optimus Prime wasn't thrilled by how fragile the Autobots were during his absence, so he faked his death to force the Autobots to learn how to carry on without him. Smokescreen was among those who gathered for Prime's "funeral".'' {{storylink|Resurrection!}} Soon after, Optimus Prime died for real, and Smokescreen watched with the other online Autobots as [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] failed to restore their leader to life. {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] was nominated their new leader, and his decisions grew increasingly unpopular among the Autobots. Smokescreen was among those who were visibly not pleased when Grimlock sentenced four [[Earth]] children to death. {{storylink|Spacehikers!}}

Smokescreen joined all of the other Earth-bound Autobots on the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] in watching [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] battle for leadership of the Autobots. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

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[[Image:Smokescreeninferno.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Gotta keep the shippers happy.]]
''In 2008, Smokescreen and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] were assigned a simple taxi mission to bring Autobot ally [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] back home to the planet of [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]]. That "simple mission" turned ugly when they discovered [[Unicron]]'s head, alive and functioning, had taken over the minds of the [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]] populace and was forcing them to rebuild his body. Cutting out in an attempt to get back to Cybertron and warn [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], the Autobots were seen and came under fire from Unicron's puppet, [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]]. Inferno was injured and Wreck-Gar stayed behind to cover their retreat, leaving only Smokescreen to pilot the shuttle back to Cybertron. Without a co-pilot, he was hard pressed to keep the ship in the air AND evade Unicron's other puppets, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]], when they tried to shoot him down before he reached Prime. With the ship going down, Inferno hauled himself out of the medical bay long enough to toss Smokescreen to safety and guide the shuttle down in a suicide crash atop the nearby Decepticon forces.''

''Once Smokescreen made his report, he joined Rodimus, [[Scattershot]] and the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] in returning to Junk to deal with Unicron. While Prime and the Dinobots hit the ground to deal with the Junkions, Smokescreen and Scattershot stayed aboard the shuttle to distract Unicron. Much to Scattershot's dismay, Smokescreen adapted a rather devil-may-care attitude, swooping in too close to Unicron's massive head and barely avoiding his eye-beams. Smokescreen's attitude came from his guilt over leaving Wreck-Gar along on Junk and letting Inferno get killed, but luckily his rashness didn't cause any lasting damage, and Unicron's evil was ultimately contained inside the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]] by Rodimus.'' {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}

''Some months later, Smokescreen was part of the band of Autobots who came to Earth to free [[Autobot City]] from an occupying force of [[Quintesson|Quintessons]].'' {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}
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====''Generation 2''====
Smokescreen was fighting alongside his friend, [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]], and some former [[Wrecker|Wreckers]] against the Cybertronian Empire. However, he suffered heavy damage and was apparently killed in battle. {{storylink|Escalation!}}
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===''Find Your Fate Junior''===
Early in the war, Smokescreen's home back on Cybertron was almost sent flying off into space when the Decepticons attacked with an unstable [[Anti-gravity gun|anti-gravity weapon]]. He recalls this event vividly. {{storylink|Desert Flight}}

===''Universe'' comics===
[[Image:Cauldron-SmokescreenSmokescreen.jpg|right|thumb|200px|]]

During the [[Universe war]], some incarnation of Smokescreen was abducted by [[Unicron]] and placed in the [[Cauldron]] arena, where he was pitted in a duel to the death against [[Smokescreen (Armada)|another Smokescreen]]. He was given a gun to use by [[Striker]], but ended up losing to the crane-Smokescreen's energy spear. After car-Smokescreen was mercilessly executed by his opponent, Unicron feasted on his [[spark]] in order to grow stronger. {{storylink|Abduction}}

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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
[[Image:PassiveAggression_smokescreen.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]
Smokescreen and Inferno were under [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s leadership in the [[Lightning Strike Coalition]] during the Dark Ages. {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages|The War Within: The Dark Ages}}

After the [[Great Shutdown]], Smokescreen returned to civilian life while the Unified Cybertronian government rose up around him. Initially complacent about shared rule with the Decepticons, Smokescreen's optics were opened thanks to the revolutionary actions of the young Autobot [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and his followers. Smokescreen gathered a resistance unit of his own with [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]], and several [[Mini Vehicle|Minibots]]. Several of his compatriots watched the footage of the battle of [[San Francisco]] that [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] had released in an attempt to paint [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and his Autobots as violent savages that must be executed for the good of society. {{storylink|Cold War}} Thanks to his Autobot connections in the [[Triple Changer|Triple Changer Strike Force]], Smokescreen managed to get Prowl and the rest of the Ark's crew released from custody to join up with his cell. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}} Smokescreen fought alongside [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] when the Autobot rebellion launched its insurrection {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (issue)|Countdown to Extinction}}, leading to the end of Shockwave's rule and his corrupt influence, leaving Cybertron under peaceful Autobot control. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}
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===IDW comics continuity===
[[Image:SpotlightBlaster Jazz Smokescreen Landfill.jpg|right|250px|thumb|You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em...]]
Shortly after the Battle of [[Thunderhead Pass]] which saw the apparent end of [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]'s rampage across Cybertron, the Autobot-Decepticon war resumed. Smokescreen was in the trenches with [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Landfill (G1)|Landfill]] waiting for [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s troop-rousing broadcast when the Decepticons began their big push into Autobot territory, coinciding with an attempt on Blaster's life. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}}

Hundreds of years later, Smokescreen had made his way to [[Earth]] and was part of the Autobots under the command of the new Autobot leader [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]. When the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] were used as hired muscle by North Korea to attack the south, [[Skywatch]] deployed the Autobots to assist the beleaguered American and South Korean forces. However, as the [[President of the United States]] had unwittingly declared Cybertronians to be weapons of mass destruction, the Autobots were forced to fight the Combaticons whilst restricted to vehicle mode (albeit with heavy weapons provided by Skywatch). Smokescreen was the first to hit the enemy, riddling [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] with cannon fire and generating smoke to confuse his opponent. Unfortunately, Vortex noted that Smokescreen couldn't see through his own smoke either, and used it against him. After the Combaticons escaped, Smokescreen awaited for repairs while [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] tended to the more seriously damaged. {{Storylink|International Incident Part 2: "Ranks of Bronze"}} The Autobots quickly regrouped and attacked the Combaticons again. Despite some interference from the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]], Smokescreen and the others came out on top. {{storylink|International Incident Part 4: "All My Sins Remembered"}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in comic===
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{{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 12|Henkei! Henkei! #12}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1 Smokescreen toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|He can only get away with those colours because he's from the 1980s.]]
*'''Smokescreen''' (1985, 2002, 2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''45'''
**''Accessories:'' "Electro-Disruptor Rifle", 2 missile launchers (left & right), 3 missiles

:Smokescreen transforms into a Datsun 280ZX Turbo based upon the Electramotive Davendorf/Sharpe touring car. Contrary to popular belief, the 38 decal is not a reversed "83" (often said to be an attempt to avoid legal issues). In truth, the [http://www.a2zracer.com/page84.html real life car has raced under both numbers.] Though Smokescreen is a Datsun 280ZX, he is a [[retool]] of the standard body used by both [[Bluestreak]] and Prowl, featuring a much larger front fender and a rear spoiler but the Mexican IGA variant has a fender and design more akin to Bluestreak and Prowl. He is predominantly blue, red and white in both vehicle and robot modes. Like Bluestreak and Prowl, he features two spring-loaded missile launchers mounted either side of his head, and is armed with a silver "Electro-Disruptor Rifle".

: In 2002, Smokescreen was re-released as part of the [[Transformers Collection]] series in Japan. This version has slightly-altered decals, and fully-functional spring-loaded missile launchers.

: In 2003, Smokescreen was released as part of the Toys "R" Us [[exclusive]] "[[Commemorative Series]]" line in the US. This version of Smokescreen uses a softer, unchromed black plastic for his rifle and missiles owing to [[For safety reasons|breakage issues]], plus his launchers are completely non-firing. He uses the same stickers as the Japanese "bookbox" release.

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===Alternators/Binaltech===
[[Image:Binaltech Smokescreen Toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|We're gellin'! Are you gellin'?]]
*'''Smokescreen''' (2003)
**''Alternator ID number:'' '''1'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-01''',
**''Accessories:'' Turbo intercooler/gun

:''Alternators'' Smokescreen transforms into a 2003 Subaru Impreza WRC rally car, with opening hood, trunk, and all four doors as well as a detailed interior. He also features working steering and rubber tires. His robot mode is based upon his original toy, as well as his cartoon model, but with changes made to reflect modern standards of Transformers toys, as well as his new vehicle mode. He is armed with a laser rifle formed from his turbo intercooler, and has the capacity to mount two spring-loaded rocket launchers on either side of his shoulders, though these were only included with his 2004 ''[[Binaltech]]'' retool, Smokescreen GT.

:There are several major differences between the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''Binaltech'' Smokescreen and Hasbro's ''Alternators'' version. While the ''Binaltech'' version of Smokescreen is constructed partially out of die-cast metal and painted in a metallic electric blue paint job, Hasbro's ''Alternators'' release has plain blue plastic. Additionally, Takara released two [[variant]]s, namely the number 07 Solberg / Mills and the number 08 Makinen / Lindstrom versions of the 2003 WRC car. Hasbro, meanwhile, only released the number 08 version. There have been complaints within the collector community, however, of ''Binaltech'' Smokescreen's paint being very easy to scratch, chip and scrape. (Reportedly, early batchs of the production run were particularly prone to outright ''flaking'', while later batches had somewhat more stable paint jobs)

{{note|Smokescreen was actually a retool of ''Alternators/Binaltech'' [[Bluestreak|Silverstreak]], a stock Subaru WRX. However, the marketing department at Takara felt that the more flashy Smokescreen would make a more suitable debut toy and would grab more attention than the plain silver Streak would.}}
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{{picsneeded|Alternators version of the toy}}

*'''Smokescreen GT''' (Japan 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-07'''
**''Accessories:'' Turbo intercooler/gun, missile launcher with missile

[[Image:Binaltech Smokescreen GT Toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Oh, we're gellin'!]]
:In 2004, Takara retooled Smokescreen for their ''Binaltech'' series into Smokescreen GT. He received a new front end, hood, roof, spoiler and wheels to reflect the changes made to the Team Subaru WRC car in the 2004 World Rally Championship. He also included a single spring-loaded missile launcher (with missile) that could be attached either side of his head via two small holes.

:Like the original ''Binaltech'' Smokescreen release, Smokescreen GT was also released in two variants, reflecting the number 1 Solberg and the number 2 Hirvonen versions of the 2004 WRC car.

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===Universe (2008)===
====Generation 1 Series====
[[Image:Smokescreenuniversedeluxe.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Surprise! He looks like this!]]
*'''Smokescreen''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

: A [[redeco]] of ''Universe'' [[Bluestreak|Silverstreak]] (who is a retool of ''Universe'' [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]), of course. He transforms into a modified [[wikipedia:Nissan_350Z|Nissan 350Z]] and features twin non-removable and non-firing "rocket launchers" that can swing over his robot-mode shoulders. His fold-out gun stores in the car mode's undersides.

: The original version of this mold was used to make ''[[Timelines (franchise)|Timelines]]'' [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] and the Silverstreak retool was made into [[Rapido]].

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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[Image:Henkei Smokescreen.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Smokescreen won his old colors and tasteful layout back in a game of Cybertronian Poker]]
*'''Smokescreen''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-21'''
**''Accessories:'' Gun

:The ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' version of Smokescreen features a more accurate deco to the original Generation 1 toy and has a more [[Show-accuracy|cartoon accurate]] deco compared to ''Universe'' Smokescreen. Like all ''Henkei'' toys, he features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] plastic, including his shoulder-mounted missile launchers and his spoiler.

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==Merchandise==
===Titanium Series===
[[Image:Titanium RM Smokescreen.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Squatmaster Smokescreen]]
*'''Smokescreen''' (3-inch Robot Masters, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Gun, Autobot-sigil display stand

:This version is of the Alternators toy, but lacks the Alternator's Subaru racing deco. While all Titanium mini-figures are somewhat squatty, Smokescreen may, in fact, be the squattiest of them all.

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===Transformers - Mini Bust===
[[Image:Smokescreen statue.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Far from the only person to lose his legs over gambling debts.]]
* '''Smokescreen''' (Diamond Select, 2009)

:Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2009, Smokescreen was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 250 pieces. Smokescreen, along with his "brothers" [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Bluestreak]], is exclusive to online retailer Toyrocket.com. The bust features Smokescreen's electro-disruptor rifle and twin missile launchers. The missile launchers can be attached via magnets on either side of his head. The missile launchers given to Smokescreen do not match the ones on his animation model though the ones given to Bluestreak do. It is unknown if this change was intentional or a mistake.
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==Notes==
[[Image:SubaruSmokescreenprop.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Not cast in the '07 movie.]]
* Smokescreen's original deco has been used for multiple [[Homage|homage]] toys. ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Prowl (Armada)|Prowl]], ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' [[Smokescreen (Cybertron)|Smokescreen]] and [[Transformers (2007)|live-action movie]] [[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]] all use the red-and-blue deco with "38" on the hood, and it was also intended to be used for a canceled ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Smokescreen (unreleased)|Smokescreen]].

*In their December 11, 2003 website Q&A, Hasbro stated that they were intending to release the "#7" [[variant]] of ''[[Alternators]]'' Smokescreen stateside as a running change. However, possibly due to the "#8" version ending up as a [[shelfwarmer]], those plans never came to fruition.

* In late 2005, Subaru displayed a life-size robot-mode prop of ''Binaltech'' Smokescreen GT using body shell parts of the then-current Impreza WRC for a corporate event. Ironically this prop had the same parts fits problems in vehicle mode that the increasingly worn-out ''Binaltech'' Smokescreen and Streak toolings would exhibit in the then-current ''Binaltech Asterisk'' [[Red Alert (G1)|Alert]] release.

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Smokescreen/smokescreen.htm Smokescreen on TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Smokescreen Smokescreen's Universe profile on NTFA.net]

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The Gambler

2011-01-03T00:01:38Z

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{{episode
|image=The Gambler title shot.JPG
|caption="On a warm summer's evenin', on a train bound for nowhere..."
|series=G1toon
|ep=47
|series2=SRLFtoon
|ep2=36
|prev2=The Secret of Omega Supreme
|next2=The Girl Who Loved Powerglide
|title="The Gambler"
|written by=[[Michael Charles Hill]]
|production code=700-46
|airdate=[[November 11]], 1985
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''On the return journey from Aron's world, the Autobots are captured by a gambling-addicted alien and traded away, leaving Smokescreen and the Autobot bounty hunter Devcon to rescue them.'''

:''Japanese title:'' ギャンブル惑星モナカス (''Gamble Wakusei Monacus'', "Monacus, the Planet of Gambling ")
:''Italian title:'' '''Il giocatore''' ("The gambler")

==Synopsis==
{{note|This episode follows the events of "[[Child's Play (episode)|Child's Play]]".}}
[[Image:Gamblerautosintubes.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Every gambler knows that the secret to survivin' is knowin' what to throw away and knowin' what to keep.]]
The Autobots are returning to earth after their adventure on [[Aron]]'s planet, when their "toy rocket" space ship suddenly comes to a halt. They are captured by an alien captain named [[Bosch]]. Bosch deactivates them and intends to sell the Autobots as slaves in exchange for energon. However, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]'s tube malfunctions and he remains functional, though temporarily immobilized.

Smokescreen learns that Bosch is a gambler. After demonstrating his ability to manipulate a slot machine, he takes Bosch's proposition to go to [[Monacus]], a gambling asteroid, and win enough energon to repower Bosch's ship in exchange for the freedom of the rest of the Autobots.

Bosch and Smokescreen end up at the "Pit of Destruction" arena of [[Gyconi|Lord Gyconi]], a local swindler, where they use the Autobots as collateral for a very high-interest loan of energon chips. At a casino, Smokescreen builds up quite a stack of winnings and lets it all ride on one last bet. But one of the casino workers breaks his link with a slot machine and he loses everything. Unable to buy back his friends, Smokescreen vows that Gyconi hasn't seen the last of him.

[[Image:Gamblersmokescreenbets.jpg|right|200px|thumb|You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table. There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done.]]

Meanwhile, [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] arrive on the planet in [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and head towards the city. They are followed by a mysterious blue Autobot.

In a local tavern, Smokescreen meets the mysterious Autobot, who introduces himself as [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]]; he's a bounty hunter searching for Decepticons.

[[Image:Gamblerdevconslizardo.jpg|left|200px|thumb|For a taste of your whiskey, I'll give you some advice.]]

In Gyconi's lair, Ramjet and Dirge shake down the big green frogman for a share of his profits. He invites the two Decepticon planes to stay and watch the upcoming battle in his arena: the Autobots versus the Animaliens. Before the show, Gyconi fixes the fight by giving the Autobots unstable energon which will wear off and make them defenseless.

The fight begins as [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], under Gyconi's control, takes on an ugly red lizard animalien. At first the Autobot leader holds his own, prompting a lot of patrons to bet on him, but then his power runs out and he's overcome. [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] is forced into the arena for the next match, but before it starts, Smokescreen fills the place with smoke and forces everyone out. Ramjet and Dirge chase him down, but he's saved by Devcon.

[[Image:Gambleranimalianfight.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The best that you can hope for is to die in your sleep.]]

Gyconi and the Decepticons load up Astrotrain with energon cubes in order to make a getaway, but Smokescreen, Devcon and Bosch confront them. During a fierce firefight, Smokescreen uses his smoke again to confuse the Decepticons. They take off aboard Astrotrain and Devcon chases after them.

The Autobots are returned to normal and Bosch offers to take them back to earth, but only after a quick stop at casino row.

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==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (1)
* [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] (2)
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (3)
* [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] (4)
* [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] (5)
* [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]] (14)
|c2=
* [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (11)
* [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (12)
* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (13)
|c4=
* [[Bosch]] (6)
* Monacan loan shark (7)
* [[Animalien]] (8)
* [[Slizardo]] (9)
* [[Gyconi]] (10)
}}

==Quotes==
"Arrrgh! I can't even beat my own machine anymore, and I had it fixed so I could cheat!"
:—'''Bosch''' has a stroke of bad luck.

"The name is Smokescreen, and I never walk when I can drive."
:—'''Smokescreen'''

"Ladies and gentlemen! Tonight for the first time anywhere in the galaxies, you will witness the pugilistic spectacle of the millennium!"
:—'''Lord Gyconi''' talks up his gladiator show.

"Now, prepare to meet my friend, Mr. Ionic Displacer."
:—'''Astrotrain'''

==Notes==
===Animation or technical glitches===
*When the autobots are captured and Smokescreen's tube breaks, he's miscoloured. He's back to blue and red as he gets paralyzed by the guard.
*The animation of the tubes opening to release the brainwashed Autobots is just the shot of them closing played backwards — unfortunately this means that Smokescreen appears to be in one of the tubes when he shouldn't be.
*The lowering platform in Gyconi's room is left unanimated, making the Autobots seem to lower into a paving stone.
*When Slizardo and Bosch approach Astrotrain, Slizardo's animation cell does not change, resulting in him appearing much smaller than Bosch.
*When Bosch and Smokescreen are walking together, they are about the same height, however, when Smokescreen transforms, Bosch rides inside him. Then again, mass-shifting is nothing new here

===Continuity errors===
*In terms of airdates, this episode is ''definitely'' played out of order, as we've seen several of the characters that are still trying to escape from Aron's planet in "[[Child's Play (episode)|Child's Play]]" on Earth prior to this one.

===Transformers references===
*Slizardo would eventually return in the season 3 episode "[[Grimlock's New Brain]]" alongside the [[Skuxxoid]].
*Devcon would later be featured in the [[Universe (2003 comic)|''Wreckers'' comic]].
*Astrotrain refers to his ionic displacer rifle by that name.

===Real-world references===
*[[wikipedia:Sheol|Sheol]], the name of Lord Gyconi's part of town, is a Hebrew word that means "the grave", and is sometimes used as a synonym or euphemism for Hell.
*When an alien turns down Bosch's offer of the Autobots as collateral, saying he's "got robots up to [his] eyeballs", he advises Bosch to go see someone named Asimov. [[wikipedia:Isaac Asimov|Isaac Asimov]] was a science-fiction writer known for his stories about robots (duh).
*Monacus is named for the real-world sovereign state of Monaco, famous for its casino.

===Trivia===
* This is one of the only two episodes in which [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] does not appear, the other being "[[The God Gambit]]". Both have Astrotrain and two Seekers in them.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;Laserdisc
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1994 — ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' — Convoy Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1998 — ''The Transformers'' — Autobot Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers'' — DVD Box 1 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2: Vol. 5 (Rhino Entertainment) 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 3: Series 2.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[Image:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Volume 05: Stagione Due Parte Terza ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio. 
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season Two: Part Two (Metrodome) 
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Season Two, Volume Two: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/synopses/the_gambler.html Dossier on the Cybertron Chronicle]

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