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		<title>Talk:Toy swapping</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Editron: /* Toy Swap times three */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Does anyone think this page should be semi-protected or something?  I mean, it&#039;s been &amp;quot;enhanced&amp;quot; a few times in the span of 2 days (probably by the self entitled douche bags the article speaks of).  What&#039;s the consensus?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:47, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Autoconfirm seems appropriate here. If someone has the balls to remove the line about toy-swapping being &amp;quot;undesirable,&amp;quot; let them register for a screen name so we can mock them to their face.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:51, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sounds like a &#039;&#039;much&#039;&#039; better plan to me.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:55, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;forehead smack* Protected the wrong bit of the page! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:01, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Eh, you cool, Chris. I fixed it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 20:07, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62666 Bleargh001] found another case, this one Human Alliance Bee and Sam, where Bee&#039;s replaced with something else. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:27, 18 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I ssem to remember on EBay, 2-3 years ago, an Ultra Magnus in Optimus packaging. I got no record of the listing, and I didn&#039;t buy it, so who knows.[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:41, 21 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Painted piece of wood? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please tell me someone has a picture of that. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Defending the practice==&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone got any links to message boards/usenet/somewhere where an asshole rationalizes doing this?  Or are we just hypothesizing?  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:10, 22 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Does such a thing exist? Or are we just trying for less partiality?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 13:19, 22 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Fosterlager was banned from the Allspark for being real smug about doing this.  Now he&#039;s a TFW2005 mod.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:15, 22 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In retrospect, I think he may have been taking a joke too far and you guys were reeled in. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:21, 23 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Package Swapping? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does swapping packages count as toy swapping? I saw a ROTF Optimus Prime Leader with a first movie leader cardboard inside piece, inside a ROTF box. [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 20:24, 25 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tomatoes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As this page is currently protected (though their doesnt seem to be a lock icon anywhere), I wanted to add http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/183502-lets-see-some-not-so-cool-stuff-transformers-only-edition-73.html#post4708953 to the list.  [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 14:29, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We stopped this article becoming simply a giant list of every instance this happens. We may consider especially weird/outrageous ones, though. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:47, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Just added it. Thanks for the head&#039;s up. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:56, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Image Gallery? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How does an image gallery sound?  Different pics of toy swapping, for more examples.  I have pictures of a Recon Ironhide swapped with a regular ROTF Ironhide, with Transmetal 1 Primal&#039;s gun and some appendages I can&#039;t identify.  I also have a picture of the recent Twins/Sideways HftD Target-Exclusive pack with the TRU-Exclusive Twins (that came with the white Demolishor; didn&#039;t have stickers) and a dark-variant Sideways with no head. {{unsigned|Karhukjnsi}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, check this out:&lt;br /&gt;
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/susp/Toys/egpharm.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kid&#039;s won&#039;t notice? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How would a kid not notice that the toy isn&#039;t the one he wants? Normally, it&#039;s the kids that know what toy they want, while the parents try to find it. It should be that the &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039; won&#039;t notice, because they probably just look at the packaging and match the names and not look at the toy. [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 13:40, 4 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Kids won&#039;t notice if they&#039;re kids who just see &amp;quot;cool-transforming-car-robot toy.&amp;quot; Until they open the package and find that it&#039;s just a silly model car and not a robot. &lt;br /&gt;
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:20, 26 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Heck, my 8 year old brother noticed Movie Bonechruser in DOTM Roadbusters packaging ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.18.164|184.56.18.164]] 16:20, 6 August 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
:Indeed, kids aren&#039;t dumb. But alas, this is a reasoning toy swappers use nonetheless, even though it&#039;s wrong. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:48, 6 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Universe Ironhide==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m pretty sure [http://pics.livejournal.com/shortpacked/pic/002arhxr this] trumps a painted piece of wood, honestly, is there any reason it&#039;s not in the page? (i.e. it has enough, this is not a real case of toy swapping, no one here found it until now, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
:- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:20, 26 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That photo is mine.  It&#039;s not here because it&#039;s fake.  It wasn&#039;t found in a store, but put together by a friend for laughs. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 26 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ah, I thought that might be the case. Made me laugh, though! - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:33, 26 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toy Swap times three==&lt;br /&gt;
I fond this little gem, snapped it and upped it here on the wiki: [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Toy_swap_times3.jpg]&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe we could fit it in somewhere? [[User:Editron|Editron]] 13:21, 16 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Toy_swapping&amp;diff=648169</id>
		<title>Talk:Toy swapping</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-16T17:21:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Editron: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Does anyone think this page should be semi-protected or something?  I mean, it&#039;s been &amp;quot;enhanced&amp;quot; a few times in the span of 2 days (probably by the self entitled douche bags the article speaks of).  What&#039;s the consensus?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:47, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Autoconfirm seems appropriate here. If someone has the balls to remove the line about toy-swapping being &amp;quot;undesirable,&amp;quot; let them register for a screen name so we can mock them to their face.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:51, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sounds like a &#039;&#039;much&#039;&#039; better plan to me.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 19:55, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;forehead smack* Protected the wrong bit of the page! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:01, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Eh, you cool, Chris. I fixed it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 20:07, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62666 Bleargh001] found another case, this one Human Alliance Bee and Sam, where Bee&#039;s replaced with something else. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:27, 18 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I ssem to remember on EBay, 2-3 years ago, an Ultra Magnus in Optimus packaging. I got no record of the listing, and I didn&#039;t buy it, so who knows.[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 23:41, 21 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Painted piece of wood? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please tell me someone has a picture of that. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 14:15, 22 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Defending the practice==&lt;br /&gt;
Anyone got any links to message boards/usenet/somewhere where an asshole rationalizes doing this?  Or are we just hypothesizing?  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:10, 22 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Does such a thing exist? Or are we just trying for less partiality?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 13:19, 22 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Fosterlager was banned from the Allspark for being real smug about doing this.  Now he&#039;s a TFW2005 mod.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:15, 22 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In retrospect, I think he may have been taking a joke too far and you guys were reeled in. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:21, 23 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Package Swapping? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Does swapping packages count as toy swapping? I saw a ROTF Optimus Prime Leader with a first movie leader cardboard inside piece, inside a ROTF box. [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 20:24, 25 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Tomatoes ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As this page is currently protected (though their doesnt seem to be a lock icon anywhere), I wanted to add http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/183502-lets-see-some-not-so-cool-stuff-transformers-only-edition-73.html#post4708953 to the list.  [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 14:29, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We stopped this article becoming simply a giant list of every instance this happens. We may consider especially weird/outrageous ones, though. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:47, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Just added it. Thanks for the head&#039;s up. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:56, 6 April 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Image Gallery? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How does an image gallery sound?  Different pics of toy swapping, for more examples.  I have pictures of a Recon Ironhide swapped with a regular ROTF Ironhide, with Transmetal 1 Primal&#039;s gun and some appendages I can&#039;t identify.  I also have a picture of the recent Twins/Sideways HftD Target-Exclusive pack with the TRU-Exclusive Twins (that came with the white Demolishor; didn&#039;t have stickers) and a dark-variant Sideways with no head. {{unsigned|Karhukjnsi}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, check this out:&lt;br /&gt;
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y70/susp/Toys/egpharm.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Kid&#039;s won&#039;t notice? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
How would a kid not notice that the toy isn&#039;t the one he wants? Normally, it&#039;s the kids that know what toy they want, while the parents try to find it. It should be that the &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039; won&#039;t notice, because they probably just look at the packaging and match the names and not look at the toy. [[User:Bioniclepluslotr|Bioniclepluslotr]] 13:40, 4 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Kids won&#039;t notice if they&#039;re kids who just see &amp;quot;cool-transforming-car-robot toy.&amp;quot; Until they open the package and find that it&#039;s just a silly model car and not a robot. &lt;br /&gt;
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:20, 26 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Heck, my 8 year old brother noticed Movie Bonechruser in DOTM Roadbusters packaging ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.18.164|184.56.18.164]] 16:20, 6 August 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
:Indeed, kids aren&#039;t dumb. But alas, this is a reasoning toy swappers use nonetheless, even though it&#039;s wrong. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:48, 6 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Universe Ironhide==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m pretty sure [http://pics.livejournal.com/shortpacked/pic/002arhxr this] trumps a painted piece of wood, honestly, is there any reason it&#039;s not in the page? (i.e. it has enough, this is not a real case of toy swapping, no one here found it until now, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
:- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:20, 26 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That photo is mine.  It&#039;s not here because it&#039;s fake.  It wasn&#039;t found in a store, but put together by a friend for laughs. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 26 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ah, I thought that might be the case. Made me laugh, though! - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:33, 26 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toy Swap times three==&lt;br /&gt;
I fond this little gem, snapped it and upped it here on the wiki: Toy_swap_times3.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe we could fit it in somewhere? [[User:Editron|Editron]] 13:21, 16 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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