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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;font size = 5&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;We do not care about set leaks.  Do not tell us who you saw on the set.  Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care.  Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Release date ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up.  --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Image ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don&#039;t know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro&#039;s Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They&#039;d see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m not too crazy about the image, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s too terribly bad [it&#039;s nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15&#039;s skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that&#039;s the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro&#039;s public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It&#039;s a cell phone quality photograph, but it&#039;s got Prime in.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that&#039;s what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn&#039;t cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I&#039;d need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Pretty!  We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I&#039;m just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Did I say &#039;grainy&#039;? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== James Avery as Silverbot? ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Actor Info ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool&#039;s prank on someone&#039;s part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it&#039;s not like she&#039;s above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don&#039;t see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who&#039;ve done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn&#039;t surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I&#039;m just still skeptical that TF3&#039;s script is going to be less horrible than TF2&#039;s.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it&#039;s not &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That&#039;s why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible Titles? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::That&#039;s still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they&#039;re in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn&#039;t this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Not really. For example, the &amp;quot;Ratchet&amp;quot; could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren&#039;t officially released photos. This isn&#039;t an &amp;quot;OMG look what I know that you don&#039;t site&amp;quot; trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I don&#039;t think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Doesn&#039;t matter. Those aren&#039;t OFFICIAL photos. They weren&#039;t released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they&#039;re intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his &#039;&#039;new&#039;&#039; colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Nope, we still don&#039;t count &#039;em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. &amp;lt;Cheetor&amp;gt; PERIOD. &amp;lt;Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s not a case of not believing they&#039;re in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It&#039;s a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don&#039;t include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Right. This info might be &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot;, but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I&#039;m sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But  as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I&#039;ve no reason to believe that they won&#039;t appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn&#039;t that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Megan Fox ==&lt;br /&gt;
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.&lt;br /&gt;
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3&lt;br /&gt;
:Reuters.com states it&#039;s due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html&lt;br /&gt;
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question.  Here&#039;s the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::For those who don&#039;t feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== DINOBOTS? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that &#039;&#039;I can&#039;t answer that question&#039;&#039; which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:His deflection of the question  doesn&#039;t &amp;quot;pretty much&amp;quot; confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren&#039;t confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign.&amp;quot; But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren&#039;t. That&#039;s the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So in short, &#039;&#039;wait&#039;&#039; until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== SIDESWIPE ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;NO.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; We&#039;ve been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disclaimer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== MARK RYAN ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don&#039;t know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;
:That doesn&#039;t seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he&#039;s always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can&#039;t add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don&#039;t start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: We saw Barricade on set during ROTF&#039;s filming.  Guess who wasn&#039;t in the movie?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes that&#039;s true.But Ratchet, sideswipe, and prime were seen during a big chase scene in chicago with a camera crew.hmmmmm.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 01:47, 15 July 15 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is Micheal Bay, he probably drives to work every day in a huge car chase, firing an uzi out of his window.  Besides, just because they were being filmed doesn&#039;t mean they will actually be in the movie.  They could easily be cut later.  Plus, it is NOT an OFFICIAL SOURCE. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 01:50, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Correct. And we only add officially-released information. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 06:51, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The simple reason is that this is an archive of things that &amp;quot;have happened&amp;quot; in the Transformers universes, until the movie is released it &amp;quot;hasn&#039;t happened yet&amp;quot;. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And Barricade &#039;&#039;wasn&#039;t&#039;&#039; on set during ROTF&#039;s filming. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:18, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;We saw Barricade on set during ROTF&#039;s filming.  Guess who wasn&#039;t in the movie?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:actually, we did&#039;t. His altmode was seen 2 months before filming {{unsigned|24.253.95.14}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Carly? ==&lt;br /&gt;
do this Count has offical Confirmation or not? http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?7552-Every-Little-Girl-Should-Be-Told-That-She-s-Pretty-Even-if-She-s-Not.&amp;amp;p=143091#post143091&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m so baffled by this I forgot the overblown &amp;quot;NO&amp;quot; reaction I had planned. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:20, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?7566-Transformers-3-Chicago-Set-Photos I guess it&#039;s official now.] Also, his news post on Bay&#039;s site apparently reveals [https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/6e7f5a008e98162953abdfdfca1d32e8-612.php the name of the Ferrari Autobot]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:36, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Darn, I was pulling for a Bewitched-esque &amp;quot;No, Mikaela&#039;s always looked like this&amp;quot;. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:48, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::He edited the front page news. Now it says the Ferrari is parked on Rush Street. That&#039;s a weird screw up... --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:19, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Optimus&#039; Trailer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been multiple pictures and videos of a semi truck with flames driving a trailer which heavily resembles [[Optimus]]&#039; trailer from G1.  The truck is a different truck than the two previous films which does support his redesign.  Should we mention it?&lt;br /&gt;
:What were the sources of those pictures? Were they from Paramount? From mainstream news programs? From some guy hiding in the bushes and taking pictures with his cell phone? ONLY officially released information may go on this page. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:53, 22 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Soundwave&#039;s Return==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it safe to put Soundwave on the character list since his head was seen on set?&lt;br /&gt;
:As the page says, repeatedly and in big letters, SET LEAKS DO NOT COUNT.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 00:49, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Is there any way that the Edit button could be rerouted to a page that only reads (and perhaps states audiably) &amp;quot;If your info is from a set leak, don&#039;t post it here!&amp;quot;? I know that&#039;s virtually impossible, but I (and I&#039;m certain quite a number of those here) are frustrated that these scoop hounds don&#039;t seem to understand what &amp;quot;officially released information&amp;quot; is. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 08:24, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The page itself is semi-protected, which already keeps our signal-to-noise pretty good.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 13:24, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rush ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where&#039;s Rush? He&#039;s official, in the movie and confirmed. He should be on the character list&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:02, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Source? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:17, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I haven&#039;t seen Geddy Lee in any of these pictures. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 13:19, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who&#039;s Geddy Lee? And it DID say Rush was the red ferrari but they must have changed it. That does not make it wrong. You cant just put a character in and remove it when it was confirmed before. Rush seems accurate and its clear they could not miss out the &amp;quot;st&amp;quot; the first time round. Its pure logic. --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Now it says that the Ferrari is parked on Rush Street. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That is NOT logic. It&#039;s quite possible that a picture could have been labeled Rush (no &amp;quot;St&amp;quot;) as an indication of location. This note could easily have been misinterpreted by someone who didn&#039;t know the location as a name and posted. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You are perhaps aware of Michael Bay&#039;s admission that he likes to spread misinformation right up to the day his movies are released?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 13:38, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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OK so lots of people were mislead as well. And who is Geddy Lee and what has he got to do with the movie? --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:45, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Geddy Lee is the lead singer for the rock band Rush. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:45, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Rush is in this movie, I will line up for tickets. &amp;quot;Closer to the heart!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:41, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Page edit == &lt;br /&gt;
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I was correcting a grammar error when the human list (and Sam Witwicky) were deleted, moving everyone else to the Decepticons. Can anyone help? -- [[User:Shackwave123|Shackwave123]] 9:33, 28 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jolt ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know this isn&#039;t confirmed but look at this. [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/310669-tf3-info-regarding-jolt-confirmed-i-am-100-certain-details-inside.html|[1]] But it may be helpful in the future! [[User:Erimal|Erimal]] 22:06, 29 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;font size = 5&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;We do not care about set leaks.  Do not tell us who you saw on the set.  Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care.  Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Release date ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up.  --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Image ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don&#039;t know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro&#039;s Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They&#039;d see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m not too crazy about the image, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s too terribly bad [it&#039;s nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15&#039;s skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that&#039;s the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro&#039;s public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It&#039;s a cell phone quality photograph, but it&#039;s got Prime in.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that&#039;s what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn&#039;t cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I&#039;d need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Pretty!  We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I&#039;m just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Did I say &#039;grainy&#039;? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== James Avery as Silverbot? ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Actor Info ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool&#039;s prank on someone&#039;s part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it&#039;s not like she&#039;s above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don&#039;t see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who&#039;ve done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn&#039;t surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I&#039;m just still skeptical that TF3&#039;s script is going to be less horrible than TF2&#039;s.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it&#039;s not &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That&#039;s why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible Titles? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::That&#039;s still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they&#039;re in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn&#039;t this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Not really. For example, the &amp;quot;Ratchet&amp;quot; could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren&#039;t officially released photos. This isn&#039;t an &amp;quot;OMG look what I know that you don&#039;t site&amp;quot; trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I don&#039;t think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Doesn&#039;t matter. Those aren&#039;t OFFICIAL photos. They weren&#039;t released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they&#039;re intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his &#039;&#039;new&#039;&#039; colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Nope, we still don&#039;t count &#039;em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. &amp;lt;Cheetor&amp;gt; PERIOD. &amp;lt;Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s not a case of not believing they&#039;re in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It&#039;s a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don&#039;t include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Right. This info might be &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot;, but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I&#039;m sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But  as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I&#039;ve no reason to believe that they won&#039;t appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn&#039;t that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Megan Fox ==&lt;br /&gt;
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.&lt;br /&gt;
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3&lt;br /&gt;
:Reuters.com states it&#039;s due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html&lt;br /&gt;
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question.  Here&#039;s the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::For those who don&#039;t feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== DINOBOTS? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that &#039;&#039;I can&#039;t answer that question&#039;&#039; which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:His deflection of the question  doesn&#039;t &amp;quot;pretty much&amp;quot; confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren&#039;t confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign.&amp;quot; But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren&#039;t. That&#039;s the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So in short, &#039;&#039;wait&#039;&#039; until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== SIDESWIPE ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;NO.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; We&#039;ve been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disclaimer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== MARK RYAN ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don&#039;t know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;
:That doesn&#039;t seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he&#039;s always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can&#039;t add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don&#039;t start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: We saw Barricade on set during ROTF&#039;s filming.  Guess who wasn&#039;t in the movie?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes that&#039;s true.But Ratchet, sideswipe, and prime were seen during a big chase scene in chicago with a camera crew.hmmmmm.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 01:47, 15 July 15 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is Micheal Bay, he probably drives to work every day in a huge car chase, firing an uzi out of his window.  Besides, just because they were being filmed doesn&#039;t mean they will actually be in the movie.  They could easily be cut later.  Plus, it is NOT an OFFICIAL SOURCE. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 01:50, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Correct. And we only add officially-released information. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 06:51, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The simple reason is that this is an archive of things that &amp;quot;have happened&amp;quot; in the Transformers universes, until the movie is released it &amp;quot;hasn&#039;t happened yet&amp;quot;. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And Barricade &#039;&#039;wasn&#039;t&#039;&#039; on set during ROTF&#039;s filming. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:18, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;We saw Barricade on set during ROTF&#039;s filming.  Guess who wasn&#039;t in the movie?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:actually, we did&#039;t. His altmode was seen 2 months before filming {{unsigned|24.253.95.14}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Carly? ==&lt;br /&gt;
do this Count has offical Confirmation or not? http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?7552-Every-Little-Girl-Should-Be-Told-That-She-s-Pretty-Even-if-She-s-Not.&amp;amp;p=143091#post143091&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m so baffled by this I forgot the overblown &amp;quot;NO&amp;quot; reaction I had planned. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:20, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?7566-Transformers-3-Chicago-Set-Photos I guess it&#039;s official now.] Also, his news post on Bay&#039;s site apparently reveals [https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/6e7f5a008e98162953abdfdfca1d32e8-612.php the name of the Ferrari Autobot]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:36, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Darn, I was pulling for a Bewitched-esque &amp;quot;No, Mikaela&#039;s always looked like this&amp;quot;. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:48, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::He edited the front page news. Now it says the Ferrari is parked on Rush Street. That&#039;s a weird screw up... --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:19, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Optimus&#039; Trailer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been multiple pictures and videos of a semi truck with flames driving a trailer which heavily resembles [[Optimus]]&#039; trailer from G1.  The truck is a different truck than the two previous films which does support his redesign.  Should we mention it?&lt;br /&gt;
:What were the sources of those pictures? Were they from Paramount? From mainstream news programs? From some guy hiding in the bushes and taking pictures with his cell phone? ONLY officially released information may go on this page. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:53, 22 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Soundwave&#039;s Return==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it safe to put Soundwave on the character list since his head was seen on set?&lt;br /&gt;
:As the page says, repeatedly and in big letters, SET LEAKS DO NOT COUNT.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 00:49, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Is there any way that the Edit button could be rerouted to a page that only reads (and perhaps states audiably) &amp;quot;If your info is from a set leak, don&#039;t post it here!&amp;quot;? I know that&#039;s virtually impossible, but I (and I&#039;m certain quite a number of those here) are frustrated that these scoop hounds don&#039;t seem to understand what &amp;quot;officially released information&amp;quot; is. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 08:24, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The page itself is semi-protected, which already keeps our signal-to-noise pretty good.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 13:24, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rush ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where&#039;s Rush? He&#039;s official, in the movie and confirmed. He should be on the character list&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:02, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Source? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:17, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I haven&#039;t seen Geddy Lee in any of these pictures. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 13:19, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who&#039;s Geddy Lee? And it DID say Rush was the red ferrari but they must have changed it. That does not make it wrong. You cant just put a character in and remove it when it was confirmed before. Rush seems accurate and its clear they could not miss out the &amp;quot;st&amp;quot; the first time round. Its pure logic. --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Now it says that the Ferrari is parked on Rush Street. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That is NOT logic. It&#039;s quite possible that a picture could have been labeled Rush (no &amp;quot;St&amp;quot;) as an indication of location. This note could easily have been misinterpreted by someone who didn&#039;t know the location as a name and posted. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You are perhaps aware of Michael Bay&#039;s admission that he likes to spread misinformation right up to the day his movies are released?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 13:38, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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OK so lots of people were mislead as well. And who is Geddy Lee and what has he got to do with the movie? --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:45, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Geddy Lee is the lead singer for the rock band Rush. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:45, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Rush is in this movie, I will line up for tickets. &amp;quot;Closer to the heart!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:41, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Page edit == &lt;br /&gt;
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I was correcting a grammar error when the human list (and Sam Witwicky) were deleted, moving everyone else to the Decepticons. Can anyone help? -- [[User:Shackwave123|Shackwave123]] 9:33, 28 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jolt ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know this isn&#039;t confirmed but look at this. [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/310669-tf3-info-regarding-jolt-confirmed-i-am-100-certain-details-inside.html|[1]] But it may be helpful in the future! [[User:Erimal|Erimal]] 22:06, 29 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jolt ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know this isn&#039;t confirmed but look at this. [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/310669-tf3-info-regarding-jolt-confirmed-i-am-100-certain-details-inside.html|[1] But it may be helpful in the future! [[User:Erimal|Erimal]] 22:06, 29 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;font size = 5&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;We do not care about set leaks.  Do not tell us who you saw on the set.  Unless you can [[Help:Official info|source it in an official press release or reputable news source]], we do not care.  Please stop telling us who you saw in set photography.&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Release date ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This page claims a release date of 1 July 2011, yet one of the sources given ([http://tformers.com/transformers-/11777/news.html]) gives a release date of 4 July 2012. Which is correct? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:25, 6 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: That Tformers source is from months ago, before the release date was moved up.  --[[Special:Contributions/67.149.197.71|67.149.197.71]] 12:59, 6 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks. [[Special:Contributions/199.90.28.195|199.90.28.195]] 15:21, 6 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ik hoop dat Transformers 3 is heel beter dan RotF. Of anders... [[Special:Contributions/71.254.158.28|71.254.158.28]] 22:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Image ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Wikipedia has a picture of a Transformers 3 titlecard. Should it be put here too? And Megan Fox should be added to the cast list.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 22:48, 3 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:[https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/a2bd79bb4c222b807e27707aaf1497e6-570.html michaelbay.com] does confirm Megan Fox, so she could be included with the reference, but I don&#039;t know where that image came from. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:56, 3 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Said titlecard would be from Hasbro&#039;s Investor Day presentation back on November 5. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 23:44, 3 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, then somebody put those things here already --[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 20:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m waiting...--[[Special:Contributions/142.32.208.231|142.32.208.231]] 15:06, 14 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
just take off the picture its inapropriote for the kid users {{unsigned|208.102.3.1|15:53, 12 June 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:The movies themselves are pretty kid-inappropriate. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 16:00, 12 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::a silhouette of a woman is not appropriate for kid users? They&#039;d see worse on billboards. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:21, 12 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m not too crazy about the image, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s too terribly bad [it&#039;s nothing compared to some of the Kiss Player stuff or the drawing of Wheelie lifting Teletraan-15&#039;s skirt; that stuff troubles me (yes, I know that&#039;s the nature of the Kiss Player beast)]. Besides, I have a feeling that the James Bond-ish pic will be removed as soon as we get some pics of the movie posters (might still see it on the Rosie article, though). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:52, 12 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I can add a photo of promotional poster/sign/thing that was part of Hasbro&#039;s public-facing booth display at Licensing Expo 2010 (it was next to a Bumblebee Camaro and a life-sized Bumblebee replica). It&#039;s a cell phone quality photograph, but it&#039;s got Prime in.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 17:42, 20 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You might want to just upload the picture, then ask on its Talk Page if it cuts the mustard for this wiki (that&#039;s what I did for my pics of Movie Payload; good thing I did because it didn&#039;t cut the mustard). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 20:05, 20 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://skitch.com/wednesday/djnmu/tf3-poster-shot-a I can do that.] I&#039;d need to crop it down a bit. [[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 01:07, 21 June 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Pretty!  We can definitely use that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 21 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Grainy, but purty. I know I&#039;m just a commoner here, but I believe it can be used until a sharper image is available. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:14, 21 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Did I say &#039;grainy&#039;? It looks much better when shrunk down. Good job, Walky, and thanks, Wednesday. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:32, 21 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== James Avery as Silverbot? ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://unscripted.ca/episodes/show/136] --[[User:Eagc7]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Actor Info ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...is that seriously for real and not an early April Fool&#039;s prank on someone&#039;s part? Because... WTF? Who ever heard of Frances McDormand and John Malkovich doing anything in a Transformers movie? XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hey now. Mrs. McDormand was in Aeon Flux, so it&#039;s not like she&#039;s above Hollywood fluff. And John Malkovich is in Jonah Hex and did things like Johnny English in the past. The Transformers film franchise attracted Hugo Weaving, Jon Voight and Robert Foxworth before them, so I don&#039;t see why other notable actors being cast would be such a shock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:14, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Weaving and Foxworth, at least, are both actors who&#039;ve done mainstream scifi franchise stuff before, so I wasn&#039;t surprised by them at all, actually. But I always thought of McDormand and Malkovich as being more artsy movie types. (Maybe I&#039;m just still skeptical that TF3&#039;s script is going to be less horrible than TF2&#039;s.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:30, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes, well, as I pointed out, it&#039;s not &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; they do. McDormand was in Aeon Flux. Malkovich is in a comic book film and was in a Rowan Atkinson comedy once, just to name a few. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:37, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;Michael Bay signs biiiiiiiig paycheck* That&#039;s why :p --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:31, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::John Malkovich should totally play Dr. Arkeville.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:41, 22 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Possible Titles? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Has anyone else heard these rumours about the possible titles: Rise of The Primes/Unicron/Galvatron. It is unlikely to be true, but should it be put in the notes, maybe? [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 14:27, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We do not talk about crackpot rumours on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::As soon as we get an official title, perhaps some of the rumored titles could be noted. Some, not all of them (maybe one or two likely titles and one off-the-wall one). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 22:54, 30 March 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Twins, Ironhide and Ratchet on TF3 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-3-on-set-pictures---a-new-look-for-ratchet-169662/&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/first-behind-the-scenes-video-from-transformers-3-169679/ --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 0:13, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:These are not official sources. A Humvee does not mean Ratchet WILL get a new paintjob, and a flying car does not indicate the Twins being in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:43, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well one guy sayed that skids Would Apepar and throw a car (samrt car) it he sayed that before the video apepared and the video Looks like what he syaed but like you sayed they not offical source, still --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] 01:15, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Bay Confirms tiwns are nto in tf3, but still the chevy spark/beat were spotted on set http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html--[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::That&#039;s still not an official source. If you can find a link where Bay or someone involved with the production says they&#039;re in, then that would do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:35, 11 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/new-transformers-3-on-set-pictures---including-a-clear-view-of-ratchets-new-look-169900/ Isn&#039;t this enough to prove that Ratchet and Ironhide will return?--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 04:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Not really. For example, the &amp;quot;Ratchet&amp;quot; could just be a fire department truck assigned as part of a NEST unit. Or it could have been painted up after the second movie in expectation of him being used in the third, but before a decision was made not to use him. The bottom line is that those aren&#039;t officially released photos. This isn&#039;t an &amp;quot;OMG look what I know that you don&#039;t site&amp;quot; trying to beat everyone to the punch by making half-baked predictions, it is an archive of what has been officially shown. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I don&#039;t think so. That ambulance is too similar. Hummer H2 and Autobot symbol on it. Autobot symbols are only used in Autobot alternate mode vehicles. NEST vehicles have no symbols or they have NEST logo. And what about Ironhide? Images are excatly enough to confirmation. These should be enough. There are no more proofs needed.--[[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 22:46, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Doesn&#039;t matter. Those aren&#039;t OFFICIAL photos. They weren&#039;t released by Hasbro, Bay or anyone who has any control over things. They are, in effect, STOLEN intellectual property and DO NOT belong here. Whether your contentions turn out to be true or not is irrelevant. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:39, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Not only that, Michael Bay and others are on the record that they&#039;re intentionally spreading false info. Remember how there were sightings of Barricade around the time RotF was filming? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:06, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The pics have been confirmed and both ratchet and Ironhide have official pics with them being next to optimus prime and bumblebee and Ratchet still has his &#039;&#039;new&#039;&#039; colors. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 16:27 8 June 2010 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Nope, we still don&#039;t count &#039;em unless Michael, Don, Nelson, or anyone directly affiliated/working on TF3 comes up and says so. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:29, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Why is this such a hard concept. Unless any new photo/news is released by Hasbro itself or one of the authorities in charge of the film it does not go on the wiki. &amp;lt;Cheetor&amp;gt; PERIOD. &amp;lt;Cheetor).--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 17:13, 8 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Meh noone blevies they are i nmovie, WELL Lets wiat til lfilmngi begisn and you guys will see these pcis are REAL!!! {{unsigned|Eagc7|20:11, 10 June 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s not a case of not believing they&#039;re in the movie. I would say most people believe it. It&#039;s a case of these pictures being leaked information without official confirmation. And we don&#039;t include that sort of info on the wiki. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Right. This info might be &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot;, but sometimes leaked info is less obvious and open to interpretation. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and no leaked info ever is pretty clear. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:00, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have no idea will the Twins really appear or not. But I&#039;m sure Ratchet and Ironhide would still return. Bay has denied appearance of the Twins twice. But  as he or anyone lese part of the production says nothing to it, I&#039;ve no reason to believe that they won&#039;t appear. - [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 14:32, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::True, but you have no official evidence that they will appear. Therefore, the wiki remains silent on their appearance or non-appearance in TF3. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:42, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Looks like someone misunderstood. My point wasn&#039;t that their names should be added to the cast list.- [[User:CAJH|CAJH]] 15:44, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Then what the heck WAS your point? This whole thread has been about whether or not these characters are confirmed as part of the cast of the new movie! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Megan Fox ==&lt;br /&gt;
She was reportediy axed due to a want not to have Sam tied down with a love intrest.&lt;br /&gt;
http://movies.yahoo.com/news/usmovies.accesshollywood.com/megan-fox-dropped-from-transformers-3&lt;br /&gt;
:Reuters.com states it&#039;s due to Bay and company wishing to go a different direction. http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64J04920100520 Bottom line, Fox is gone. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:32, 19 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That news about Fox(cited) should probably be front and center in her own article, rather than down the bottom in trivia. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 01:11, 20 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Shockwave Has villian and FInal Film in the franchise ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/308221-transformers-3-movie-details-possible-spoilers-2.html&lt;br /&gt;
:The above link is to the second page of a forum thread about an article ABOUT the article in question.  Here&#039;s the actual article: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:21, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::For those who don&#039;t feel like reading through it: no more goofball humor; twins are basically gone; new love interest for Sam; Shockwave is new villain; involves USA/USSR space race; characters who die stay dead this time. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:30, 10 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== DINOBOTS? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In a interview with Josh Duhamel was asked if the dinobots are going to be in TF3,and he sayed that &#039;&#039;I can&#039;t answer that question&#039;&#039; which pretty much confirms that the Dinobots are going to be in it like they did with devastator in ROTF.so can we add them? {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 02:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:His deflection of the question  doesn&#039;t &amp;quot;pretty much&amp;quot; confirm anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:39, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
How so, he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign. {{unsigned|98.204.17.1}} 11:27, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s not official confirmation. Besides, Josh Duhamel is just an actor; for all we know, Lennox might not interact with the Dinobots. He might not even know who the Dinobots are. For now, they aren&#039;t confirmed. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:32, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;he is playing coy and by now its common sense that when they do that it means its coming.Mis-information campaign.&amp;quot; But he could be acting that way to make you think he means the Dinobots are in it when they really aren&#039;t. That&#039;s the thing about mis-information campaigns, you never really know what it all means until the movie comes out. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:17, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So in short, &#039;&#039;wait&#039;&#039; until Paramount or Bay or other reporting agencies outright says either the Dinobots are going to show up or not. Better accuracy that way. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:44, 13 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== SIDESWIPE ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sideswipe was spotted on set.And YES michael bay and crew members were their so can we count that as confirmination? --[[User:Primetime]] 13:49,18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Source? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:52, 18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Transformers 3 - Update # 12 ( Filming Locations, Mark Ryan Interview and more!) --[[User:Primetime]] 13:55,18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Dear God. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:56, 18 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I Found a video with Be,, swipe and ferrari on set can i psot it? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]]&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;NO.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; We&#039;ve been over this countless times before, for the first film and for Revenge of the Fallen and now for this: We do not post anything that has not been officially released or revealed by Hasbro, Paramount or Michael Bay. This video was shot without authorization by onlookers on set and is not official. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:03, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disclaimer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we need using a disclaimer/notice on the page&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers_3_(film) for reference]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; (not only the talk page), too? Since some users (especially new comers or anons) usually edit the page without reading the talk page first. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 04:55, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:An excellent idea. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 12:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== MARK RYAN ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Mark Ryan the previous voice for bumblebee sayed in a interview that he was going to be doing several voices for characters(possible bumblebee).Since we don&#039;t know who he will be voicing but this is OFFICIAL can we put this in the notes section or take it in consideration?You can find the interview on the site.--[[User:Primetime]] 13:36, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/&lt;br /&gt;
:That doesn&#039;t seem to say anything about him doing the on-screen voices, just that on-set voices (as he&#039;s always done). Bumblebee is not a guarantee, either. His only known line as Bumblebee in ROTF was cut. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:54, 19 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So let me get this straight...ummmm...so we can&#039;t add characters that were seen in videos or set pics.It safely confirms them so It seems strange that we cant add them it seems a little too...uptight(e.g.Ratchet,Primes G1 style trailer).Don&#039;t start bashing me and chewing me out.I just need a calm and good reason why.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 1:20, July 15 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: We saw Barricade on set during ROTF&#039;s filming.  Guess who wasn&#039;t in the movie?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:26, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes that&#039;s true.But Ratchet, sideswipe, and prime were seen during a big chase scene in chicago with a camera crew.hmmmmm.--[[User:Saberblade|Saberblade]] 01:47, 15 July 15 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is Micheal Bay, he probably drives to work every day in a huge car chase, firing an uzi out of his window.  Besides, just because they were being filmed doesn&#039;t mean they will actually be in the movie.  They could easily be cut later.  Plus, it is NOT an OFFICIAL SOURCE. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 01:50, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Correct. And we only add officially-released information. --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 06:51, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The simple reason is that this is an archive of things that &amp;quot;have happened&amp;quot; in the Transformers universes, until the movie is released it &amp;quot;hasn&#039;t happened yet&amp;quot;. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And Barricade &#039;&#039;wasn&#039;t&#039;&#039; on set during ROTF&#039;s filming. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:18, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;We saw Barricade on set during ROTF&#039;s filming.  Guess who wasn&#039;t in the movie?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:actually, we did&#039;t. His altmode was seen 2 months before filming {{unsigned|24.253.95.14}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Carly? ==&lt;br /&gt;
do this Count has offical Confirmation or not? http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?7552-Every-Little-Girl-Should-Be-Told-That-She-s-Pretty-Even-if-She-s-Not.&amp;amp;p=143091#post143091&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m so baffled by this I forgot the overblown &amp;quot;NO&amp;quot; reaction I had planned. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:20, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?7566-Transformers-3-Chicago-Set-Photos I guess it&#039;s official now.] Also, his news post on Bay&#039;s site apparently reveals [https://michaelbay.com/newsblog/files/6e7f5a008e98162953abdfdfca1d32e8-612.php the name of the Ferrari Autobot]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:36, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Darn, I was pulling for a Bewitched-esque &amp;quot;No, Mikaela&#039;s always looked like this&amp;quot;. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:48, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::He edited the front page news. Now it says the Ferrari is parked on Rush Street. That&#039;s a weird screw up... --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:19, 20 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Optimus&#039; Trailer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been multiple pictures and videos of a semi truck with flames driving a trailer which heavily resembles [[Optimus]]&#039; trailer from G1.  The truck is a different truck than the two previous films which does support his redesign.  Should we mention it?&lt;br /&gt;
:What were the sources of those pictures? Were they from Paramount? From mainstream news programs? From some guy hiding in the bushes and taking pictures with his cell phone? ONLY officially released information may go on this page. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:53, 22 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Soundwave&#039;s Return==&lt;br /&gt;
Is it safe to put Soundwave on the character list since his head was seen on set?&lt;br /&gt;
:As the page says, repeatedly and in big letters, SET LEAKS DO NOT COUNT.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 00:49, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Is there any way that the Edit button could be rerouted to a page that only reads (and perhaps states audiably) &amp;quot;If your info is from a set leak, don&#039;t post it here!&amp;quot;? I know that&#039;s virtually impossible, but I (and I&#039;m certain quite a number of those here) are frustrated that these scoop hounds don&#039;t seem to understand what &amp;quot;officially released information&amp;quot; is. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 08:24, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The page itself is semi-protected, which already keeps our signal-to-noise pretty good.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 13:24, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rush ==&lt;br /&gt;
Where&#039;s Rush? He&#039;s official, in the movie and confirmed. He should be on the character list&lt;br /&gt;
--[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:02, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Source? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:17, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I haven&#039;t seen Geddy Lee in any of these pictures. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 13:19, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Who&#039;s Geddy Lee? And it DID say Rush was the red ferrari but they must have changed it. That does not make it wrong. You cant just put a character in and remove it when it was confirmed before. Rush seems accurate and its clear they could not miss out the &amp;quot;st&amp;quot; the first time round. Its pure logic. --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Now it says that the Ferrari is parked on Rush Street. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That is NOT logic. It&#039;s quite possible that a picture could have been labeled Rush (no &amp;quot;St&amp;quot;) as an indication of location. This note could easily have been misinterpreted by someone who didn&#039;t know the location as a name and posted. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:34, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You are perhaps aware of Michael Bay&#039;s admission that he likes to spread misinformation right up to the day his movies are released?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 13:38, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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OK so lots of people were mislead as well. And who is Geddy Lee and what has he got to do with the movie? --[[Special:Contributions/92.238.181.196|92.238.181.196]] 13:45, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Geddy Lee is the lead singer for the rock band Rush. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:45, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If Rush is in this movie, I will line up for tickets. &amp;quot;Closer to the heart!&amp;quot; -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:41, 24 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Page edit == &lt;br /&gt;
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I was correcting a grammar error when the human list (and Sam Witwicky) were deleted, moving everyone else to the Decepticons. Can anyone help? -- [[User:Shackwave123|Shackwave123]] 9:33, 28 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jolt ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know this isn&#039;t confirmed but look at this. [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/310669-tf3-info-regarding-jolt-confirmed-i-am-100-certain-details-inside.html|[1]] But it may be helpful in the future! [[User:Erimal|Erimal]] 22:06, 29 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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:&#039;&#039;Sideswipe is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Revenge of the Fallen Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|Also known as &#039;&#039;&amp;quot;Stabby McWheelfeet&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; is true to his function of Warrior. Though proficient with guns, he prefers melee combat to ranged weapons, and will employ any maneuver it takes to get close enough to the enemy to use his arm-mounted [[Cybertanium]] swords.  His agile, wheel-legged form more than allows for this. His tactics are merciless and he&#039;s utterly unapologetic about this—war, after all, is &#039;&#039;messy&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, and he&#039;s also not vain at &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039;: those alt modes of his are chosen for speed only. It&#039;s a &#039;&#039;total coincidence&#039;&#039; that the fastest one just &#039;&#039;happens&#039;&#039; to be a sleek, sexy, concept model that&#039;s better than &#039;&#039;your&#039;&#039; car, honest! &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|Transformers: The Movie Universe]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote2|Damn, I&#039;m good.|Sideswipe|[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quote2|I am a warrior. I bleed conflict.|Sideswipe|[[Tales of the Fallen issue 2]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===IDW &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; movie comics===&lt;br /&gt;
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When Sideswipe joined the Autobots he trained under the veteran warrior [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], learning the arts of war. After his training was complete, he went on to become the protector of a settlement of displaced Autobots. This settlement was found by the pitiless [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], who slaughtered them nearly to a bot. Sideswipe was ashamed, not only over having failed to protect his charges, but also because he had lived to tell the tale.{{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]&#039;s Autobots left [[Mission City]], they left a homing beacon in a junk yard near the metropolis to attract any Autobots who might have heard Prime&#039;s rallying call to [[Earth]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 3}} Sideswipe was among those few that answered the beacon and had hidden themselves in the junk yard. Once discovered, they were brought to [[Diego Garcia]] to train with the other Autobots and [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]]&#039;s soldiers in defense of their new home. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}} However, Sideswipe proved a loose cannon as he continued his vendetta against Demolishor when the Decepticon turned up in [[Montevideo]], [[Uruguay]]. Showing little regard for humans in pursuing his quarry, Sideswipe&#039;s actions prompted Ironhide to arrive on the scene to rein him in. The younger Autobot was openly insubordinate towards Ironhide, warning him not to get in the way. Ultimately all the old veteran could do was to serve as damage control during Sideswipe&#039;s singleminded pursuit. Ultimately more reinforcements from [[NEST]] arrived, and Demolishor fled the scene. In the aftermath, Sideswipe saw the fear and mistrust the humans regarded him with because of his violent actions. Understanding this, he was forced to admit that Ironhide&#039;s admonishment of him was correct. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Sideswipe didn&#039;t have long to wait for another shot at his nemesis. Soon enough, Demolishor had been sighted in [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|&#039;&#039;Skids? Mudflap? Hhh.&#039;&#039; What have I ever done to deserve &#039;&#039;this&#039;&#039;?|Sideswipe on his training position, [[Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune]]}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Titan4_Sideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|250px|&amp;quot;Look, you guys are the Jar Jar Binks of this franchise.  There&#039;s &#039;&#039;always&#039;&#039; room for improvement.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike most Autobots, Sideswipe—part of a younger generation built during wartime—was made to fight. He was born during the war and with full knowledge of the Cybertronian battlefield, designed solely for killing. He&#039;s master of the quick-change transformation! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Sideswipe&#039;s profile}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Sideswipe served as a combat instructor at NEST&#039;s Scottish base, and had to put [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] back through basic training—something he was fed up of. As far as he was concerned, they should&#039;ve been put on charge for causing [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to escape and he should have better things to do. He dealt with this by putting the twins through simulated combat after simulated combat, finally cracking it up to maximum setting, before [[Ravage (ROTF)|someone knocked him out]].&lt;br /&gt;
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When he came to, the twins were babbling about how a mysterious and long-vanished Decepticon working for [[Soundwave (ROTF)|another mysterious Decepticon]] had done it and tried to kill them! Sideswipe was having none of it, viewing this as implausible and believing the twins knocked him out in revenge for training and were covering themselves. Between this and Grindor, he was becoming suspicious of them... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Following the training, poor Sideswipe took them to [[Diego Garcia]] and continued to be pestered by them for a meeting with Prime. Not trusting them and ignoring their babble about some &amp;quot;[[the Fallen|dude]]&amp;quot;, he tried to discourage them, only for the two to sneak off behind his back. Sighing, he went in pursuit... and saw them distract Prime before a [[Scorponok (Movie)|Decepticon attacked]], &lt;br /&gt;
Skids tripped over Prime before he could take charge, and Mudflap handed a weapon to [[Sideways (ROTF)|an escaping prisoner]]! When Optimus remarked that someone must&#039;ve compromised security, Sideswipe fingered the twins: their actions clearly showed they were turncoats! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Sideswipe would be part of the team tracking down the twins {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Outlaw Blues}}, and would later be surprised when they were tracked down to [[North Carolina]]... and were &#039;&#039;fighting&#039;&#039; two Decepticons? Why, if he didn&#039;t know better, he&#039;d think they were fighting the two &#039;cons they&#039;d helped! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}} &lt;br /&gt;
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After the Autobots tracked the twins to the Decepticon&#039;s base, it became clear they &#039;&#039;weren&#039;t&#039;&#039; traitors after all and &#039;&#039;had&#039;&#039; been framed. Did Sideswipe apologise? Hell no, he instead had a scary amount of fun slaughtering [[Purple generic drones|drones]] and had to be told off by Ironhide for excessive bloodlust. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, after [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|the twins turned out to have told the truth about this &amp;quot;Fallen&amp;quot; guy]], Sideswipe was with Ironhide cleaning up the remaining Decepticons on Earth. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.11|Spare Parts!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[André Sogliuzzo]] (English) [[Akio Ohtsuka]] (Japanese) &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Sideswipe-ROTFdamnImgood.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Damn, he&#039;s good... at killing [[Sideways (ROTF)|fleeing cowards]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sideswipe was one of the Autobots sent to [[Shanghai]] when Decepticon energy signatures were detected, but he was initially held in reserve. As [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] managed to flee from [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] and [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Twins]] in vehicle mode, [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]] ordered Sideswipe deployed. Sideswipe immediately sped in and quickly changed to robot mode. Catching up with Sideways by dexterously skating on his wheel-feet, Sideswipe somersaulted over the Decepticon, threw his right blade in the Decepticon&#039;s hood, and then dragged the blade in the opposite direction, tearing Sideways apart. Sideswipe took a moment to reflect on the success of his kill. &lt;br /&gt;
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Afterwards, he returned with the other Autobots to [[NEST]]&#039;s base in Diego Garcia, where he witnessed Director [[Theodore Galloway]] air the [[Barack Obama|President&#039;s]] concerns over the recent spate of Decepticon activity, and how the Autobots remaining on Earth might be the cause of it.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark shard]] was stolen by [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] from NEST&#039;s secured bunker and Decepticons were detected heading towards [[Sam Witwicky]] at [[Princeton University]], Sideswipe and the other Autobots were deployed to intercept, but arrived too late: [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] had died protecting the human boy from the resurrected [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF Sideswipe in Egypt.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The &amp;quot;Where&#039;s Sideswipe?&amp;quot; series of books never really caught on.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Autobots and NEST arrived at a [[United States of America|United States]] air base to discover that they were no longer welcome, following renewed Decepticon aggression after Prime&#039;s death, and that they were ordered to return to Diego Garcia. The emotionally overwhelmed Autobots nearly came to blows with their former allies but finally agreed to stand down and remain on Earth. When Major Lennox learned Witwicky had come up with a way to possibly resurrect Optimus Prime, NEST travelled to [[Egypt]] instead. Sideswipe, who had been covered in a cargo net while being transported in vehicle mode, relished the chance to cut through his bonds when deployed from the air. He fought off many Decepticons during [[Operation: Firestorm]], and bore witness to Sam resurrecting Optimus Prime with the [[Matrix of Leadership]], and the death of [[The Fallen]]. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Toy bios===&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the war, Sideswipe was a major competitor in the [[gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial games]]. Years of training made him a master at fencing, something he viewed as an art to be celebrated through battle. When war broke out, he was sickened by the Decepticon&#039;s slaughter and vowed to use his fencing skills to defend the innocent. {{storylink|#Robot Replicas|Robot Replica Sideswipe}} Before he enlisted with the Autobots, Sideswipe traveled the galaxy in search of the most proficient warriors and devastating martial arts he could find, leading to him becoming an Autobot combat instructor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Sideswipe Battle Bio]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He&#039;s also a raw, untrained guy! Used to battling alone, he was given over to [[Robert Epps]] to be trained as a team player. The two have become good friends, and Sideswipe is now more dangerous than ever. {{storylink|#Human Alliance|Sideswipe / Tech. Sergeant Epps}} &lt;br /&gt;
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When the [[Hooligan (G2)|hooligan]] [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]] gained new powers and threatened Earth, Sideswipe was dispatched with Mudflap to take the giant Decepticon down. {{storylink|The Fury of Fearswoop}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cyber Missions===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Bronco D. Jackson]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Sideswipe_twin-pistols.JPG‎|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
Tracking Megatron to a disused factory with Optimus, Sideswipe complained about the dust until Optimus told him to be quiet.  Optimus&#039;s scans turned up nothing, but Megatron soon revealed himself, batting Sideswipe aside.  The young Autobot quickly recovered and joined Megatron in sword combat, even stabbing the Decepticon leader in the foot mid-sentence.  Megatron subsequently brought the roof down on the two Autobots and escaped, though neither Autobot was harmed. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Later, Sideswipe was pursuing [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] in [[Scramble City (city)|Scramble City]], and took a turn to let the Decepticons think they had lost him, in truth following them to the facility they were heading for. After crumpling Frenzy into a ball and batting him back at Barricade, Sideswipe engaged the larger Decepticon, but was stopped with fire suppression equipment that froze him to the databanks. As the Decepticons were able to escape, Sideswipe broke free and learned that they had stolen NEST&#039;s defense deactivation codes. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 6}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Soon after, he was able to discover a wounded Ratchet back in [[Mission City]] and took him back to [[Diego Garcia]] to be repaired. While Ratchet was getting fixed up, Sideswipe traded in his shattered blades for new blasters. While they did that, [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] arrived and threatened Sideswipe during target practice. Apparently, he had enough- he was able to shoot the [[EMP]] blaster off of Lockdown&#039;s wrist and back to Ratchet, who was fully operational. Lockdown, now without a blaster weapon, pushed Sideswipe aside and fled, much to Sideswipe&#039;s dismay, but Ratchet assured him that he was headed straight for the medical bay. There, he saw an out-cold Lockdown laying on an operating table, all the while stating he couldn&#039;t look. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 7}} &lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; - The Game===&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Voice actor:&#039;&#039; [[Nolan North]] (English)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_Sideswipe_DLC.jpg|thumb|250px|Silver or red, yer dead.]]&lt;br /&gt;
====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Note|Sideswipe was absent from the released game, but on [[August 27]], [[2009]], was made available as a playable character (for multiplayer games) as optional downloadable content for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3 owners. The pack also included a red alternate colour scheme for Sideswipe, as a homage to his [[Generation 1]] [[Sideswipe (G1)|counterpart]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====PSP====&lt;br /&gt;
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{{note| Sideswipe is one of several Autobots that can be played with during the campaign mode of the game, and thus has no real story of his own apart from the events mentioned below.}} &lt;br /&gt;
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=====Autobot campaign=====&lt;br /&gt;
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: Sideswipe managed to get ambushed by the Decepticon forces during the battle in Shanghai, and the Autobots had to move out to save their comrade, leaving the All Spark fragment in the Decepticons&#039; hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
====Legends Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF-toy_SideswipeLegends.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hey! I have real feet now!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;EZ-06&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[Legends Class]] Sideswipe transforms into a tiny Corvette Stingray concept car. As a Legends toy, he features a simplified transformation sequence that results in swords that consist entirely of door [[kibble]] and barely-noticeable reliefs of his wheel-feet.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This toy was [[redeco]]ed into &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/LegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF-toy_SideswipeFoF.jpg|thumb|300px|[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] as his partner... Screwed, or not screwed?]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;The Fury of Fearswoop&#039;&#039;&#039; (Figure multi-pack, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A &amp;quot;battle damaged&amp;quot; deco version of Legends Sideswipe was available in the [[Walmart]]-exclusive &amp;quot;[[The Fury of Fearswoop]]&amp;quot; 3-pack together with a similarly &amp;quot;battle damaged&amp;quot; version of Legends [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and Deluxe class [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]]. That the set uses a pair of Legends-class cars and a Deluxe-class jet means the toys are in a roughly-correct scale to each other... which is borked by the story, in which Fearswoop is supposedly much huger than normal thanks to some unnamed mystic artifact. &lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/WMLegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on &amp;quot;Fury of Fearswoop&amp;quot; Sideswipe at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF-toy_Legends_BluesteelSideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Was the painter sleeping at the controls?!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bluesteel Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Legends, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Bluesteel&amp;quot; Sideswipe is a metallic blue redeco of Legends Sideswipe, also featuring some minor detail changes, including finally painting his fake wheel-feet to make them stand out.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Deluxe Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTFSideswipe 2009 Deluxe.jpg|right|300px|thumb|His heroes are [[Tigatron]] and [[wikipedia:Edward Scissorhands|Edward Scissorhands]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RA-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sideswipe transforms into a silver Corvette Stingray concept car.  In this mode, he sits so low that it&#039;s difficult to roll him without scraping his undercarriage, unless you perform some careful shaping after transforming him. Sideswipe&#039;s [[Mech Alive]] gimmick is in his knees—bending his legs causes the blue armor plates on his knees to extend.  He does have wheels in his feet like his character model, but the toy&#039;s feet have been designed in such a way that it can stand alone. Rounding out his robot-mode awesomeness, his hips have an &amp;quot;invisible joint&amp;quot; and moving pistons, while his &amp;quot;blades&amp;quot; are geared to spin out in unison. He is &#039;&#039;totally awesome&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sideswipe&#039;s instructions aren&#039;t clear as to how his torso is supposed to connect with his chest in robot mode.  The torso piece has a square peg on top of it and there is a corresponding square hole between the two screws holding the front of his chest together.  Getting his torso section in front of his arm struts can be a somewhat snug fit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This mold was [[retool]]ed into &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].&lt;br /&gt;
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::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Sideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF_Deluxe_StrikeMissionSideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|&amp;quot;Well basically, I just copied the Sideswipe we have now.  And this racing stripe here I feel is pretty sharp.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Strike Mission Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This redeco of Sideswipe features red translucent windows, a large black racing stripe running down the center of the car and fading black stripes on the doors. Like many Autobots in the NEST Global Alliance &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; toyline refresh, he features a version of the NEST logo [[tampograph]]ed on him.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This deco is also the basis for the [[Gravity Bot]]s [[#GravityNitro|&amp;quot;Nitro&amp;quot; Sideswipe toy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Human Alliance====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF_HumanAlliance_Sideswipe_Epps.jpg|thumb|300px|Training with Sergeant Epps really beefed him up!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe / Tech. Sergeant Epps&#039;&#039;&#039; (Human Alliance, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;RA-22&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Like all [[Human Alliance]] figures, Sideswipe is designed to allow his accompanying human figure, in this case [[Robert Epps]], to ride inside.&lt;br /&gt;
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:While in many ways simply a larger version of the Deluxe toy, it has several changes. The wheeled feet may now fold out into a stand system, allowing Sideswipe to stand without having to balance on the wheels, or be left as is to retain a more rounded look, and his blades are now rubberized to prevent injury. The sword-hands can also be slotted into a gear system connected to the front wheels, which causes them to spin as the wheels are turned. Like the Deluxe figure, the HA Sideswipe is something of a [[shellformer]] and suffers from an excessive amount of kibble, as nearly the entire top of the vehicle mode is folded up into a backpack, with only the rear bumper being incorporated as Sideswipe&#039;s chest. The passenger&#039;s seat may either be used as a seat for Epps, or turned into a missile launcher slung over Sideswipe&#039;s left shoulder.&lt;br /&gt;
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:A great deal goes unmentioned in the instructions: in addition to the seats behind Sideswipe&#039;s shoulders, there are pegs on both forearms that a Human Alliance human figure can stand on or have plugged into their back, but neither are accomplished very well; the pegs also interfere with free rolling in vehicle mode, scraping on the ground. There is a fold-out handle under the swiveling rear window section, which seems to serve no purpose; it&#039;s possible to fold this section over Sideswipe&#039;s head (and, by extension, any human figure sitting behind his shoulder), but the handle doesn&#039;t line up with anything. There are also small tabs that fold out of Sideswipe&#039;s waist to make him more movie-accurate. Finally, Sideswipe has a battle mask; or rather, his normal head &#039;&#039;&#039;is&#039;&#039;&#039; his battle mask. A thin sliver in the middle of his face flips back to reveal his &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; face. It looks...odd. It&#039;s probably best to leave the thing down and never speak of this feature.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fast Action Battlers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Sideswipe ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Has anyone seen my proportions?]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle Blade Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Fast Action Battler, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
: This roughly Deluxe-sized version of Sideswipe is a kid-friendly version with a simpler transformation, transforming from a Corvette Stingray car to a simplified version of his robot mode presented in the &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; movie. His main [[gimmick]] is his spring-loaded arm-blades which automatically swing down when pulled upward.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Night Blades Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Fast Action Battler, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF-toy_FAB_NightBladesSideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Haven&#039;t found my proportions yet, but look at this cool deco I found!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: This [[redeco]] of Battle Blade Sideswipe colors his car mode dark gray and light green. His robot-mode bits remain silver.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Battle Chargers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTFSideswipe BattleChargers 2009.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He secretly envies the original [[Battlecharger]]s for having better feet.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Battle Charger, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Part of the [[Robot Powered Machines]] subline, Battle Charger Sideswipe is a cutesified Corvette Stingray with a [[pull-back motor]]. When pulled back and let go, his roof flips open and his robot mode pops out.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Hyper Speed Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Battle Charger, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hyper Speed Sideswipe is a white redeco of Battle Charger Sideswipe with black details here and there.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Gravity Bots====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF-toy SideswipeGravity.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Before he joined the army, Sideswipe was picked on a lot for his &amp;quot;mass problem&amp;quot;.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Gravity Bot, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;GB-04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Part of the second wave of [[Gravity Bot]]s, Sideswipe uses gravity-activated [[autotransformation]] to turn into a [[super deformed]] Corvette Stingray when laid on his back. When the car is stood back up, it transforms back into its boxy robot mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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: The toy features no [[articulation]] whatsoever, but that doesn&#039;t matter because he&#039;s awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:ROTF-toy_GravityBots_NitroSideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Nitro Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Gravity Bot, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
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: A [[redeco]] of regular Gravity Bot Sideswipe, Nitro Sideswipe features maroon windows and black stripes and wheels, very similar to the [[size class|Deluxe Class]] [[#StrikeMission|&amp;quot;Strike Mission&amp;quot; Sideswipe toy]]. He of course retains the same awesome play feature.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Robot Replicas====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RobotReplicas_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|200px|I haven&#039;t sliced anyone up in awhile, I gots the Blue Blades!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Robot Replicas, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
:Robot Replicas Sideswipe is a non- transforming, but highly detailed and articulated interpretation of his robot mode from the movie. He features highly posable legs, arms, feet, head, waist, neck and shoulders, making him both an awesome kid&#039;s toy and display piece.&lt;br /&gt;
:Funnily enough, despite the Robot Replica promise of total movie-accuracy, his arm-blades are [[For safety reasons|considerably shortened]] and are a weird metallic blue colour, rather than the silver/gray you might expect.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Power Bots====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF-toy_PowerBots_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Crikey!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (Power Bots, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[Power Bots]] Sideswipe is a bulky, non-transforming toy for younger children. He features limited articulation in his limbs and head, two very blunt swords, and various playing sound clips and flashing lights. He has an North Americanised [[Australia]]n accent!&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers (2010)===&lt;br /&gt;
====Deluxe Class toys====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:SidearmSideswipeToy2010.jpg|thumb|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sidearm Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039;  (Deluxe, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;AA-06&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:This new mold of Sideswipe is designed for greater robot mode accuracy compared to his original Deluxe class mold, and replaces his swords with twin hand-held pistols (which were briefly used during the Egypt battle in &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;). Additionally, the guns can be attached to flip-up panels in vehicle mode. Sideswipe has toe and heel spurs so that he can balance on a flat surface without falling over, a problem that the previous Deluxe Sideswipe suffered. &lt;br /&gt;
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:Hasbro added a red deco design to the front of the car and red windows in an effort to differentiate him from the previous Sideswipe mold. The Japanese [[TakaraTomy]] release of Sidearm Sideswipe drops the red vehicle mode decos in favour of keeping the silver paint on his wheels, which Hasbro dropped due to budgetry reasons. &lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Hunters Rumble&#039;&#039;&#039; (Target Figure 2-pack, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This [[Target]]-exclusive bundle includes redecos of &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; Deluxe-class Sideswipe and a [[Movie (toyline)|&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; (2007)]] Deluxe-class [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
====RPMs—Robot Powered Machines====&lt;br /&gt;
=====Speed Series=====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RPM_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;04 of 04&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;[[Robot Powered Machines]]&#039;&#039; Sideswipe is a small, non-transforming car with his robot mode sculpted underneath. Said robot mode has his swords colored red, for some reason. The car&#039;s wheels feature through-axle construction for speedy racing on flat surfaces.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Although a stolen [[prototype]] that surfaced in 2008 was pretty accurate to the Corvette Stingray car from the movie, the actual RPM Sideswipe toy has been severely altered and looks more like an Aston Martin. Unfortunately, Mattel was able to secure exclusive rights for releasing a Concept Stingray model car at a 1:64 scale for their &#039;&#039;Hot Wheels&#039;&#039; line (the toy was recently released as part of the &amp;quot;2010 New Models&amp;quot; lineup).&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe vs. Wreckloose&#039;&#039;&#039; (2010)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Number:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;01 of 06&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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:A redeco of RPM Sideswipe with red stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his roof. It was only available in a two-pack with [[Wreckloose (ROTF)|Wreckloose]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Robot Heroes===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Robotheroessideswipesideways.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Still needs training wheels.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Sideswipe and Sideways&#039;&#039;&#039; (2009)&lt;br /&gt;
: Sideswipe is part of the first wave of &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]&#039;&#039; figures and is packaged versus [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]].  He has rotational articulation at both shoulders, but his head is molded into his torso.  In order to stand up, the figurine must rest its weight on one of his arms.  &lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Robotheroestwinswidewaysprimedemolishorsideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|&amp;quot;Damn, I&#039;m cute.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Shanghai Shootout&#039;&#039;&#039; (Multi-pack, 2009)&lt;br /&gt;
:Shanghai Shootout replicates the opening action scene from &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039;, featuring figurines of [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]/[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] (ice cream truck), [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] (vehicle mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], and Sideswipe (vehicle mode).  Demolishor is a slightly-oversized figure and the centerpiece of the box set.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Trivia==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:ROTF Sideswipe concept art.jpeg|thumb|right|300px|There was a time he would have had feet.]]&lt;br /&gt;
* On June 11, 2008, blurry camera phone photos from the set of &#039;&#039;[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]&#039;&#039; offered the first look at Sideswipe&#039;s vehicle mode, which was believed to be a 2009 Chevrolet Corvette XR1 at that time.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;fairmont&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-concept-car-at-fairmont-park-base.html Blurry set photos from Fairmont Park]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ten days later, leaked photos offered a better look at the car being painted by Saleen, which was now revealed to be a never-seen-before Corvette model.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;corvettesaleen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://jalopnik.com/396734/transformers-corvette-concept-z28-bumblebee-get-a-close+up Photo of the Corvette being painted by Saleen at Jalopnik]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On August 7, 2008, Jalopnik claimed having received information that the car was a so-called &amp;quot;Corvette Centennial Concept&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name&amp;quot;centennial&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://jalopnik.com/5034285/exclusive-the-transformers-mystery-car-is-the-corvette-centennial-design-concept Jalopnik&#039;s story on the &amp;quot;Corvette Centennial Concept&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[General Motors]] finally admitted the car&#039;s existence at the Chicago Auto Show in February of 2009, now confirming that it was, in fact, a new Corvette Stingray concept.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Thanks to that whole [[General Motors]] bankruptcy thing, Sideswipe may be the closest we&#039;ll ever get to seeing a &#039;&#039;real&#039;&#039; Stingray.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Rumored names for Sideswipe in the early days of the movie shooting were &amp;quot;Hot Rod&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;upclose&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://jalopnik.com/398892/up+close-photos-of-mystery-corvette-concept-from-new-transformers-movie More shots of the Corvette at Jalopnik], July 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (which might have been a case of fans simply suggesting a random name and other fans subsequently treating it as gospel) and &amp;quot;Stinger&amp;quot;. The latter originated with a (real) call sheet leaked in June 2008, which suggests that &amp;quot;Stinger&amp;quot; was an actual working name.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bethcall&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/bethlehem-call-sheet-cast-tf-and-next.html Leaked call sheet at the Transformers Live Action Movie Blog], July 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Sideswipe was announced as a new downloadable character for the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 versions of Revenge of the Fallen, alongside [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]. He is the only downloadable character with a G1 homage skin, which makes him twice as awesome.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Sideswipe&#039;s Cybertronian mode was revealed in [[Tales of the Fallen]], as well as the fact he arrived on Earth in November 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* According to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] in Law and Disorder, he has a relative called [[Sunstreaker (ROTF)|Sunstreaker]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.13|#13&#039;s Law and Disorder}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* He has been confirmed to appear in [[Transformers 3]] as a convertable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:NEST]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Martial artists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Transformers 2010 toyline characters]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Erimal</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=User:Erimal&amp;diff=481226</id>
		<title>User:Erimal</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-21T00:13:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Erimal: New page: Hi, I&amp;#039;m Erimal.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hi, I&#039;m Erimal.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Erimal</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Talk:Cyclonus (Animated)</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-15T17:38:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Erimal: /* Just An Alternate Theory */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Toys ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Due to the great similarity between this incarnation of Cyclonus and his &#039;&#039;[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]&#039;&#039; counterpart, [[Hasbro]] announced that it will not be designing an &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; version of the toy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Does this comment mean that the Universe Cyclonus toy has been [[repurpose]]d as Animated Cyclonus? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:05, 23 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, it means that Hasbro generally has declined to make an Animated figure compete against a Universe counterpart, and vice versa.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:15, 23 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Thought that might be it, but the other seemed a possibility so I wanted it cleared up. Thanks. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:49, 23 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Just An Alternate Theory ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Though the hints in Almanac 2 mostly point to Cyclonus being from Animated&#039;s future, I feel obliged to say that one could also interpret them to mean that he&#039;s [[Cyclonus (G1)]], having somehow gotten dumped into the wrong universe.  The fact that he looks much more like his G1 counterpart than any other Animated character also supports this.  I think there are enough &amp;quot;from the future&amp;quot; nuances to his story that we should stick with that interpretation, but I figured I&#039;d mention my crazy alternate theory here...  [[User:JW|JW]] 20:15, 2 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I don&#039;t think that&#039;s possible.  If he were G1 Cyclonus, he wouldn&#039;t have Starscream algorithms in his programming but, y&#039;know, Bombshell.  (Or Skywarp if we want to open up THAT debate again.)  And it would make his internal clock being wrong something of a non sequitur.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:54, 2 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Here&#039;s my theory: When [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]] were floating in space, they met Unicron. Unicron turned Skywarp into Cyclonus and Thundercracker into Scourge sometime in the future. Then Megatron was turned into Galvatron. Cyclonus was somehow sent to the past and that&#039;s where we are now. [[User:Erimal|Erimal]] 13:38, 15 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Erimal</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II</title>
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		<updated>2010-07-14T19:34:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Erimal: /* Chapter 1 - Autobots */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Comicstory|&lt;br /&gt;
|seriesissue=&#039;&#039;Transformers Animated:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;The AllSpark Almanac Volume 2&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|image=AllSparkAlmanacIIcover.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=This is where Hasbro&#039;s planning to ultimately release Blackout.&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]&lt;br /&gt;
|written by=[[Jim Sorenson]] and [[Bill Forster]]&lt;br /&gt;
|date=[[June 30]], [[2010]]&lt;br /&gt;
|illustrated by=&lt;br /&gt;
|continuity=[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]&lt;br /&gt;
|pagecount=220&lt;br /&gt;
|price=$19.99 USD&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac&lt;br /&gt;
|ISBN=ISBN 1600106838&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
ISBN 978-1600106835&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{bigquote|Now listen up all you palookas out there! Yer gonna shell out yer dough, yer gonna buy this here book and yer gonna like it. Capish?|[[Dirt Boss (Animated)|Dirt Boss]], the rear cover of The AllSpark Almanac Volume 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac Volume 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is proof of a loving, nonspecific deity that delights in shattering readers&#039; pants and brains.  Again.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Contents==&lt;br /&gt;
*Foreword, by [[Matt Youngberg]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Introduction by the Authors&lt;br /&gt;
*Chapter 1:  [[Autobot]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*Interstitial A:  Size Comparison Charts&lt;br /&gt;
*Chapter 2:  [[Decepticon]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*Interstitial B:  [[Transformers Animated (franchise)#Japanese release|&#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; in Japan]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Chapter 3:  Events&lt;br /&gt;
*Interstitial C:  Style Guides&lt;br /&gt;
*Chapter 4:  Culture&lt;br /&gt;
*Interstitial D:  [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)#Episodes|Shorts]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Chapter 5:  [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Interstitial E:  Deleted Scenes&lt;br /&gt;
*Chapter 6:  Settings&lt;br /&gt;
*Interstitial F:  [[Transformers Animated: The Game|The Video Game]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Chapter 7:  Project Omega&lt;br /&gt;
*Interstitial G:  [[The Arrival]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Foreword by [[Eric Siebenaler]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Section I: Toy Design&lt;br /&gt;
*Section II: Animation&lt;br /&gt;
*Section III: Season Four&lt;br /&gt;
*Section IV: Toy Gallery&lt;br /&gt;
*Section V: Packaging Art&lt;br /&gt;
*Section VI: The Cast&lt;br /&gt;
*Afterword, by [[Aaron Archer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Acknowledgments&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chapter 1 - Autobots==&lt;br /&gt;
Chapter one covers all Autobots who appear in the third season of the cartoon and beyond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{collist|3|&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|&amp;quot;Wingblade&amp;quot; Optimus Prime]] by Megatron&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]] by Jetstorm&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorm]] by Jetfire&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Safeguard (Animated)|Safeguard]] by Sentinel Prime&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Yoketron]] by Jazz&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alpha Trion (Animated)|Alpha Trion]] by Sentinel Prime&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Kup (Animated)|Kup]] by Optimus Prime&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Perceptor (Animated)|Perceptor]] by Shockwave&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wheeljack (Animated)|Wheeljack]] by Perceptor&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mainframe (Animated)|Mainframe]] by Wheeljack&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rodimus Prime (Animated)|Rodimus Prime]] by Kup&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brawn (Animated)|Brawn]] by Ironhide&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Shot (Animated)|Hot Shot]] by Red Alert&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Red Alert (Animated)|Red Alert]] by Hot Shot&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grandus (Animated)|Grandus]] by Rosanna&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Beachcomber (Animated)|Beachcomber]] by Rattletrap&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Highbrow (Animated)|Highbrow]] by Shockwave&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Warpath (Animated)|Warpath]] by Flareup&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dug Base]] by Wheelie&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dai Atlas (Animated)|Dai Atlas]] by Ultra Magnus&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sky Garry (Animated)|Sky Garry]] by Alpha Trion&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rattletrap]] by Warpath&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Seaspray (Animated)|Seaspray]] by Sentinel Prime&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Autotrooper|Autotroopers]] by Alpha Trion&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Botanica (Animated)|Botanica]] by Tracks&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wheelie (Animated)|Wheelie]] by Seaspray&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pipes (Animated)|Pipes]] by Huffer&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Huffer (Animated)|Huffer]] by Pipes&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cosmos (Animated)|Cosmos]] by Bulkhead&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tracks (Animated)|Tracks]] by Beachcomber&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Powerglide (Animated)|Powerglide]] by Blitzwing&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mirage (Animated)|Mirage]] by Cliffjumper&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Glyph (Animated)|Glyph]] by Volks&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tap-Out (Animated)|Tap-Out]] by Glyph&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chase (Animated)|Chase]] by Carrera&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Freeway (Animated)|Freeway]] by Sedan&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Searchlight (Animated)|Searchlight]] by Furão&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Volks (Animated)|Volks]] by Tap-Out&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Carrera (Animated)|Carrera]] by Bumper&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Furao|Furão]] by Chase&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hubcap (Animated)|Hubcap]] by Freeway&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sedan (Animated)|Sedan]] by Hubcap&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumper (Animated)|Bumper]] by Searchlight&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flareup (Animated)|Flareup]] by Warpath&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lightbright]] by Dug Base&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lickety-Split]] by Lightbright&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rosanna (Animated)|Rosanna]] by Grandus&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Steeljaw (Animated)|Steeljaw]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Zaur]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[[Ramhorn (Animated)|Ramhorn]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sari Sumdac]] by Ratchet&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wasp]] by Bumblebee}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 16 - [[Yoketron]] has learned and, subsequently, taught the arts of [[Crystalocution]], [[Diffusion]], [[Tekkaido]], and [[Circuit-Su]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 17 - The art of [[Kup (Animated)|Kup]] depicts him with a [[Cigar#IDW comics continuity|cy-gar]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 18 - [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] comments on sitting &amp;quot;not ten [[Units of length|mechanometers]]&amp;quot; across from [[Perceptor (Animated)|Perceptor]] in [[Autobot High Council#Transformers: Animated|High Council]] meetings.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 19 - [[Mainframe (Animated)|Mainframe]] is credited with solving [[Extempaxia|Extempaxia&#039;s]] fourth conjecture.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 20 - Kup refers to [[Rodimus Prime (Animated)|Hot Rod&#039;s]] flame deco as making him look &amp;quot;like he&#039;s the [[Pit]]-Damned [[The Fallen|Fallen]].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 22 - In [[Ironhide (Animated)|Ironhide&#039;s]] anecdotes about [[Brawn (Animated)|Brawn]], he makes mention of the [[Tower of Pion]], [[Ballobot|ballobots]], and [[Widow&#039;s Cafe Cybertronian|Widow&#039;s Cafe]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 24 - [[Red Alert (Animated)|Red Alert&#039;s]] hand has been replaced with a [[Transfer Interlink]]. She graduated top of her class at [[Polyhex|Polyhex Medical Mechanical]], and created the vaccine for [[Gold Plastic Syndrome]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 26a - Reportedly, [[Beachcomber (Animated)|Beachcomber]] is into [[Syk|syk]], [[Simultronic|simultronics]], [[Angolmois]], and [[Crysmag metal|crysmag]], among other substances.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 26b - Shockwave recounts the last meeting he had with [[Highbrow (Animated)|Highbrow]] in the [[Manganese Mountains]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 29a - [[Rattletrap]] can apparently get unlicensed [[Shock Pop]] datatrax and forged [[S.T.A.R.S.]] idento-cards for the right price.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 29b - [[Seaspray (Animated)|Seaspray]] fought in the War of the Waves on [[Antilla]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 30a - [[Botanica (Animated)|Botanica]] rid [[Daffodil II]] of a [[Morphobot]] infestation.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 30b - [[Wheelie (Animated)|Wheelie]] was found orphaned in [[Quintesson]] territory.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 33 - Most of [[Cliffjumper (Animated)|Cliffjumper&#039;s]] run-up on [[Mirage (Animated)|Mirage]] portrays a [[Traitor|major lack of trust]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 34 - [[Glyph (Animated)|Glyph]] apparently studied the technological evolution of the inhabitants of the [[Gorlam Prime|Gorlam system]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 36a - [[Tap-Out (Animated)|Tap-Out]] accuses [[Volks (Animated)|Volks]] of being a &amp;quot;[[Sam Witwicky|LadiesBot217]]-type.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 36b - [[Carrera (Animated)|Carrera&#039;s]] run-up mentions [[Cybertronian sport#The Iacon 5000|the Iacon 5000]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 36c - [[Furao|Furão&#039;s]] name means &amp;quot;ferret&amp;quot; in Old [[Malignus]]. He was stationed aboard the &#039;&#039;[[Flash Frenzy]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 37 - [[Bumper (Animated)|Bumper&#039;s]] ship crash-landed on [[Bhul]].&lt;br /&gt;
* Pg 38 - [[Lickety-Split]] is a fan of the [[Galactic Olympics]], and would like to win a [[Golden Disk (disambiguation)|Golden Disk]] in the Tour de [[Orgenon Cluster|Orgenon]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chapter 2 - Decepticons==&lt;br /&gt;
Chapter two covers all Decepticons who appear in the third season of the cartoon and beyond.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{collist|3|&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wasp|Waspinator]] by Blackarachnia&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Strika (Animated)|General Strika]] by Lugnut&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]] by Cyclonus&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cyclonus (Animated)|Cyclonus]] by Scalpel&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blackout (Animated)|Blackout]] by Megatron&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Spittor (Animated)|Spittor]] by Oil Slick&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dirt Boss (Animated)|Dirt Boss]] by Scrapper and Mixmaster&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave&#039;s Avatars]] by Prowl&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratbat (Animated)|Ratbat]] and [[Laserbeak (Animated)|Laserbeak]] by Soundwave&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Reflector (Animated)|Reflector]] by Blackarachnia&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Straxus (Animated)|Lord High Governor Straxus]] by Strika&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Slapper (Animated)|Slapper]] by Swindle&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stretch]] by Porter C. Powell&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Flip Sides (Animated)|Flip Sides]] by Blurr&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scalpel (Animated)|Scalpel]] by Perceptor&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Magnificus (Animated)|Magnificus]] by Starscream}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chapter 3 - Events==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[TransWarped]] as a page from Sari&#039;s diary and Team Chaar&#039;s report to Shockwave&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Three&#039;s a Crowd]] as an Autobot Incident Report by Bulkhead&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Where Is Thy Sting]] as an Autobot Incident Report by Bumblebee&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Five Servos Of Doom]] as an Autobot Incident Report by Prowl&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Predacons Rising]] as an Autobot Incident Report by Optimus Prime&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Human Error, Part I]] as Soundwave&#039;s Internal Log&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Human Error, Part II]] as Scrapper&#039;s diary&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Decepticon Air]] as an Autobot Incident report by Optimus Prime&lt;br /&gt;
*[[This Is Why I Hate Machines]] as Ratchet&#039;s Internal Log&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Endgame, Part I]] as an Autobot Incident Report by Optimus Prime and Starscream&#039;s Internal Log &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Endgame, Part II]] as an Autobot Incident Report by Optimus Prime&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chapter 4 - Culture==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chapter 5 - Deleted Scenes==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chapter 6 - Settings==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Chapter 7 - Project Omega==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Literary elements==&lt;br /&gt;
Including the copyright information, title page, foreword and afterwords, notes from the authors and acknowledgments.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
* Cover artist [[Marcelo Matere]] recreates some of his own [[package art]] on the cover.  That&#039;s probably a first. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Hiroyuki Otoboto]]&#039;s quote contains 「思ったよりも本のサイズが大きくてびっくり！」 (&amp;quot;I was amazed—the book was even bigger than I expected!&amp;quot;), which was manga artist [[Naoto Tsushima]]&#039;s reaction that he tweeted after importing the [[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|first volume.]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://twitvideo.jp/00VMB Tsushima&#039;s TwitVideo with &amp;quot;The AllSpark Almanac&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* The cover depicts Bumblebee playing with Roll Out Command Optimus Prime, but the box beside him is that of Prime&#039;s Voyager-sized toy. It also depicts the Leader Class Bulkhead&#039;s buzzsaw on the wrong arm.&lt;br /&gt;
* On the back cover, the quote for Hiroyuki is mistakenly written as 「小さい頃、超ロボット生命体 トランスフォーマーの本この本に等しかったな。懐かしいない... 思ったよりも本のサイズが大きくてびっくり！」 (&amp;quot;When I was young, [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]] did have a book that was something like this. I didn&#039;t miss it... I was amazed—the book was even bigger than I expected!&amp;quot;). The correct form should have been 「小さい頃、『超ロボット生命体 トランスフォーマー』の本この本に等しかったない。懐かしいな... 思ったよりも本のサイズが大きくてびっくり！」 (&amp;quot;When I was young, &#039;Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&#039; didn&#039;t have a book that was something like this. How nostalgic... I was amazed—the book was even bigger than I expected!&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
* On p. 52, the text says that [[Blackout (Animated)|Blackout]] &amp;quot;bristles with ordinance&amp;quot;.  &amp;quot;Ordinances&amp;quot; are local laws; &amp;quot;ordnance&amp;quot; is weaponry.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/digipedia/annotatedalmanac2.html The Annotated AllSpark Almanac II], a 98% complete listing of the hidden references in the book&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Scrapmetal (ROTF)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Erimal: /* Screen shot of technical errors */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Does it really need to be &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Ze&#039;&#039;&#039; little one&amp;quot;? As opposed to &amp;quot;Little one&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Little Constructicon&amp;quot;? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:24, 13 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Probably for comic effect since that&#039;s all he&#039;s been identified as in the film itself, not unlike The Fallen constantly having the &amp;quot;The&amp;quot; preceeding the name, or other such articles. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:26, 13 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It has the benefit of leaving no question who the article refers to.&lt;br /&gt;
::Also-- I&#039;m not entirely sure about the &amp;quot;looks liek Scrapper, but has a different altmode.&amp;quot;  The scene in the film is clearly the product of two different &#039;shoots,&#039; with backgrounds and vehicle positions not matching up, and the long shots showing different vehicles than the close-ups.  A lot of the confusion about The Little One&#039;s identity comes from that-- there&#039;s a truss crane in some of the shots that&#039;s simply not there in others.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:22, 13 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Perhaps, but in the shots it&#039;s featured in, it has a blatant Decepticon sigil on its side. We see no such thing with the loader. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:25, 13 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Our best evidence, if we take everything 100% literally, is that he&#039;s a triple-changer and transformed between shots. Or scanned a new altmode between shots. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:54, 13 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Our best evidence, if we take everything literally, is that G1 Soundwave is a triple-changer capable of transforming into a perfect facsimile of Sideswipe&#039;s robot mode between shots.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It&#039;s a good thing we &#039;&#039;don&#039;t&#039;&#039; take everything 100% literally, because the inability to recognize a mistake as a mistake would be crippling.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:07, 14 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It seems too unlikely to me that a red excavator transforms into a Scrapper-like robot - for one thing, there&#039;s no known example of a Transformer changing colour between modes in the Movieverse. It&#039;s possible that Scavenger was originally intended to join the others before they finalised his alt-mode, as occurs in some of the adaptations such as &#039;&#039;Rise of the Decepticons&#039;&#039; where the main image on the ROTF Constructicons page comes from. Given that the vehicle-shots before Devastator transforms don&#039;t match up with the transformation itself, I&#039;m of the opinion that it&#039;s another editing goof and &#039;ze little one&#039; is simply a Scrapper unit. (Which, given Rampage is smaller than him, puts Scalpel&#039;s eyesight into question...) [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 08:18, 30 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The excavator is yellow, not red. It&#039;s not Scavenger&#039;s ginormous altmode, it&#039;s a smaller, yellow Volvo excavator. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:30, 30 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Oops, you&#039;re right, my bad. I still think it&#039;s a editing goof, but the alt mode being smaller and the same colour does add more credibility to the theory. [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 18:14, 30 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Wait, how did an allspark fragment revive someone killed by the WHOLE allspark?&lt;br /&gt;
:::Maybe because he was alive when he got killed but was dead when he got revived (I know it sounds obvious but keep reading because I don&#039;t mean it like that) just like electricity, when your alive it kills you (stops your heart) but when you are dead (with a stopped heart) it brings you back to life (restarts your heart). Lightning is actually more powerful than a defibrillator.[[Special:Contributions/90.198.156.78|90.198.156.78]] 13:33, 28 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The same way a cup of coffee jolts you up but a hundred cups kills you. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:02, 14 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Jetfire indicated that Energon has some anti-entropic qualities.  Mass doses will blow shit out, but lower doses can bring stuff to life.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Just like unleashign the full power of the matrix can nuke Unicron, but a tiny fragment of the Matrix&#039;s finite power can act as an &#039;extra life.&#039;  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:07, 14 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Would it be at all possible to ask Orci, Bay, or any of the other reliable sources on this in the same manner we ask Wyatt things? If not, could someone remember to bring it up at the next interview with them (if there&#039;s room)? The compromise we&#039;re using works for now, but it is kind of iffy, and a clear explanation from someone in charge should clean this right up.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:35, 16 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Not that I&#039;m against that or anything... But it seems blatantly obvious just from the context of the movies. &amp;quot;No Optimus! Don&#039;t put the cube in your chest! It&#039;s PURE ENERGY!&amp;quot; *Sam puts cube in Meg&#039;s chest* &amp;quot;Aaaaaaaaaargh!&amp;quot; *melt melt melt melt melt* (by the way, heat is a form of energy). Considering the cube was used to power up all of Cybertron... Yeah, the whole thing was probably too much for anyone to handle all at once. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 03:49, 16 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t think Orci would be interested in that like Wyatt. In [http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2009/07/ask-orci-final-edition.html an interview] he was asked to clarify Devastator and he said, &amp;quot;I suppose since we didn&#039;t commit either way, I wouldn&#039;t want to tie the hands of future writers with my non-canon opinion.&amp;quot; - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:13, 16 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Screentime ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Rampage and Demolisher got whole scenes to themselves, and Mixmaster at least had that thing on top of the Brooklyn Bridge, as well as being the focus of every panning scene with the Constructicons. Long Haul I think was also there for a while in the scene with Simmons, and is easily more idenitifiable than the other Constructicons in most of the scenes including them. Honestly, even if ze little one &#039;&#039;was&#039;&#039; Scrapper, he got barely any screentime whatsoever - I had to be looking for him in the desert scene, once I knew he appeared there, to even see him, and Hightower and Overload didn&#039;t appear at all in robot form. As such, I don&#039;t think that the Q&amp;amp;A thing can be claimed to explicitly identify Scrapper as distinct from ze little one with the wording it uses.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 05:41, 12 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ze little one body-type as left leg ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, right from the start, I&#039;ll admit this is completely baseless speculation. However, with the exception of Kickback (who might share Rampage&#039;s alt-mode, both being bulldozers), there are no other Constructicons that only have a single body-type, and it&#039;s been noted in several places that a single Rampage is too small to create Devastator&#039;s left leg. ZLO is a yellow tracked construction vehicle with a similar mass to Long Haul, and since we never see exactly what becomes the left leg in the movie...&lt;br /&gt;
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I know there isn&#039;t a Volvo excavator in the scene where Devastator forms, but then, there&#039;s only one bulldozer and it&#039;s commonly thought that at least two Rampages make up Devastator, and the vehicles-rolling-up section doesn&#039;t match the transformation section of the scene anyway. I also know that all the official information on Devastator lists Rampage as the left leg component, but then the film contradicts that &#039;&#039;anyway&#039;&#039; as it clearly shows him becoming the left hand, and if two Rampages do form the leg then that also contradicts the single-Rampage-as-leg canon. Might as well throw out crazy ideas since there&#039;s no official consensus on which Constructicon does what. [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 06:48, 15 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Is all this speculation neccesary? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is kinda pointless. Does it really matter what his actual name is? There are hundreds of other autobots and decepticons on Earth in this (like most, if not every) continuity that haven&#039;t been even talked about in the fiction, of course with not one being given a name. So what&#039;s the difference if this character has an actual name? {{unsigned|70.100.243.71}}&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s fun. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:53, 2 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Screenshot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Not sure if this is any good to anyone - [http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f269/TomPrankerd/ZeLittleOne.jpg]&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:The Ideon|The Ideon]] 03:54, 28 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Looks pretty good to me, especially since we don&#039;t have a mainpic for this guy yet. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 11:20, 3 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scrapper, Ze Little one and constructicons ==&lt;br /&gt;
On the ship we see 2 shots. A short shot with a wheel loader and several shots with the Volvo excavator. The Excavator has longer shots (more screntime), clearly has a Decepticon logo and even gets a close up and even movement. Therefore it is safe to assume that the loader only see for a very short time in a overhead shoot is a mistake and the excavator is the corect alternate mode. So this means that this robot can&#039;t be Scrapper because Scrapper is a wheel loader.&lt;br /&gt;
Judging on Devastors proportions Scrapper is one of the bigger constructicons, bigger then Mixmaster and Rampage so couldn&#039;t be referred to as &#039;little one&#039;. Note that the loose Long Haul is a diffirent (bigger) truck type then the combining truck so can&#039;t be used for reference. Scrapper is seen in the desert battle and chasing Sam and Mickaela in the village so was clearly not dead (well untill being bombed by aircraft).&lt;br /&gt;
It is unclear whethere there are multiple contructicons of each body type. The combining vehicles were never seen in robot mode nor do they speak or show any signs of being seperate sentient beings, they simply combine. Devastator could simply be a seperate robot with an alt mode that splits into several construction vehicles.&lt;br /&gt;
Although the appearance of Grindor and a Decepticon identical to Bonecrusher indicates that it is possible to have multiple identical Transformers (unless these were in fact revived Blackout and Bonecrusher). If Devstators components are seperate robots then some of them would have survived as not all of Devastators parts were destroyed.&lt;br /&gt;
There is a concept art by [[Paul Ozzimo]] shows a robot similar to Scrapper but who has clearly tracks (on his right arm and seen on the right side of his back) instead of wheels.&lt;br /&gt;
Parts of Ze little one were used to repair Megatron, which after that Transformed into a tracked vehicle, indicating the constructicon killed had tracks. But perhaps they also used parts of Brawl&#039;s body. But if Brawl&#039;s body was close why would they bother to kill a constructicon and use his parts? Maybe they used a spark to revive Megatron and Brawl was dead for to long for it to be usefull.{{unsigned|84.105.192.220|07:47, 3 October 2009}}        &lt;br /&gt;
scrapmetal is also seen side hightotwer. {{unsigned|66.157.50.68}}&lt;br /&gt;
:When? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:35, 21 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Screen shot of technical errors ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I got a [http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3291/2mkv002332703.jpg pic] which can be used for [[Ze little one#Trivia]] and [[Revenge of the Fallen (film)#Filming / editing / technical errors]]. But it still need another image (in which ze little one&#039;s alt mode is a Volvo excavator) to be made into a picture like [[:Image:Grimlockhead_ud2.jpg|this]]. (I haven&#039;t got DVD, so I can&#039;t finish the job. Thus I can only provide a picture.) --&#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#00FA9A&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TX55&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;SUP&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;[[User talk:TX55|&amp;lt;span style= &amp;quot;color:#0000CD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;TALK&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;]]&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/SUP&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 02:52, 21 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;d like an image actually of Scrapper in robot mode jumping off the boat ahead of the others: so eager, yet so doomed. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 04:03, 21 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Umm, I looked at the Main pic with Scrapmetal underwater and at the top of legs, he has wheels of a front loader there, and he has feet that of Scrapper&#039;s. [[User:Erimal|Erimal]] 16:46, 11 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Size ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It looks to me like the smallest Constructicon was Mixmaster. Is this an error?--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 18:47, 17 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not ze little one ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Im pretty sure that this guy is bigger than Scrapper and Mixmaster. So calling him Ze little one would be an error.--[[User:LesterX|LesterX]] 17:26, 13 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s the only designation we have for the character. Also, you don&#039;t have to be the smallest Constructicon to die. You just need to be the slowest. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:58, 13 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==We have a name.==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.tfviews.com/news/main/hasbro-q-and-a/641]. [[User:Onslaught Six|Onslaught Six]] 21:51, 23 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, what do you know? We actually have a name that is both Transformerish &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; descriptive! -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:53, 23 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That is so not fair!  Why couldn&#039;t we get THAT Hasbro guy to answer our Constructicons Q&amp;amp;A question?! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:56, 23 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Hasbro appreciates the fans&#039; enthusiasm and support of the Transformers brand.  To that end, Hasbro now solicits questions on a bi-monthly basis from leading fan web sites.  Hasbro looks forward to responding to your questions!&lt;br /&gt;
:::(or to put it another way, NO) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:02, 24 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No clue, frankly I was surprised they answered it at all. I asked on a whim because we couldn&#039;t come up with anything better. I actually fully expected &amp;quot;We dunno! There is no name!&amp;quot; [[User:Onslaught Six|Onslaught Six]] 01:53, 24 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:His name is very descriptive. It could serve as his complete known bio! But they could have been a little more definitive. &amp;quot;On our side, we like to call &#039;Ze Little One&#039; Scrapmetal.&amp;quot; Is that an official name or an official designation? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:01, 24 December 2009 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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