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And [http://tgtfiles.target.com/transformers3/swf/TT3Shell.swf this], while it still works, will take you to the site itself. See also [http://tgtfiles.target.com/transformers3/swf/TT3Application.swf here] and [http://tgtfiles.target.com/transformers3/xml/config.xml here]. EDIT: Ah, [http://www.target.com/c/favorite-characters-Transformers/-/N-5tdvx#?lnk=Utility_FAVCH_103011_X3Y1|X3Y1&intc=274866|null here] is the main site. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 11:02, 5 November 2011 (EDT)

== Canada Stores ==

I am just throwing this out there I edited the page so here it says that there aren't any stores in Canada well I changed it to say there aren't '''many''' stores because I actually have a local one over here in St.Albert,AB

Target

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'''Target''' is a major North American retailer (although it does not have many stores in [[Canada]] yet). They have had a lot of ''Transformers'' [[Exclusive|exclusives]] over the years.

There is also an Australian Target store chain that has officially no connection to the US Target company except the name. Target Australia has also carried many ''Transformers'' toys as exclusives as far as the Australian market was concerned.

==List of Target exclusive toys==
{{note|This list only refers to the United States market. Over the years, a lot of toys that were exclusive to Target stores in the USA were available at Zellers stores on Canada, and as mass retail releases in other places such as Australia or Europe.}}
===Beast Machines===
* [[Magmatron]] (minimally-altered version of ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (toyline)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' Magmatron)

===Robots in Disguise===
* [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]] (redeco of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Transmetal 2]] [[Megatron (BW)/toys|Megatron]])
* [[Dreadwind (RID)|Dreadwind]] and [[Smokejumper]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] and [[Smokescreen (G2)|Smokescreen]])

===Universe (2003)===
*[[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime]] (redeco of ''Beast Wars Neo'' [[Big Convoy]])
*[[Overbite (Universe)|Overbite]] & [[Repugnus (Universe)|Repugnus]] two-pack (redecos of ''[[Beast Wars II (toyline)|Beast Wars II]]'' [[Starscream (BWII)|Hellscream]] and ''Beast Wars'' [[Buzzclaw (BW)|Buzzclaw]])
*[[Long Haul (Universe Ultra)|Long Haul]] & [[Hightower (Universe Ultra)|Hightower]] two-pack (redecos of ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Heavy Load (RID)|Heavy Load]] and [[Hightower (RID)|Hightower]])
* [[Bonecrusher (Universe Ultra)|Bonecrusher]] & [[Scavenger (Universe Ultra)|Scavenger]] two-pack (redecos of ''Robots in Disguise'' [[Wedge]] and [[Grimlock (RID)|Grimlock]])

{{note|The three two-packs above were originally planned to be released as wave 4 of the Universe Ultra assortment. They were briefly listed, but not actually ''sold'' on HasbroToyShop.com before the deal to release them through Target was reached.}}

===Cybertron===
*Critical Path Pack ([[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] and [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]])
*Drag Race Pack ([[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]] and [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]])
*Ground to Air Blast Pack ([[Crosswise (Cybertron)|Crosswise]] and [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]])

{{note|These three two-packs featured unchanged versions of the Deluxe Class toys of the same names.}}

*[[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]] with bonus Mini-Cons [[Razorclaw (Cybertron)|Razorclaw]] and [[Steamhammer (Cybertron)|Steamhammer]]
*[[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]] with bonus Mini-Cons [[Sky Lynx (Cybertron)|Sky Lynx]] and [[Thunderblast (Mini-Con)|Thunderblast]]
*[[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] with bonus Mini-Cons [[Shockwave (Cybertron)|Shockwave]] & [[Tankor (Cybertron)|Tankor]]

{{note|These three bonus packs featured unchanged versions of the Voyager Class and Mini-Con Class toys of the same names.}}

*Legends 4-Pack (unchanged [[Legends Class|Legends of Cybertron]] [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]], [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]], [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] and [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]])

===Classics===
*Battle for Autobot City: [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys|Ultra Magnus]] vs [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (redecos of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]])

===''Transformers'' (2007)===
====Scout Class====
'''Wave 1'''

*[[Hardtop (Movie)|Hardtop]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Hardtop (Cybertron)|Hardtop]])
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]])
*[[Signal Flare (Movie)|Signal Flare]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Signal Flare (Energon)|Signal Flare]])

'''Wave 2'''

*[[Strongarm (Movie)|Strongarm]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]])
*[[Skyblast (Movie)|Skyblast]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]])
*[[Clocker (Movie)|Clocker]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Clocker (Cybertron)|Clocker]])

'''Wave 3'''

*[[Armorhide (Movie)|Armorhide]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Armorhide (Cybertron)|Armorhide]])
*[[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]])
*[[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]])

'''Wave 4 (Allspark Power Wave 1)'''

*[[Warpath (Movie)|Warpath]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Overhaul]])
*[[Storm Surge (Movie)|Storm Surge]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Shortround]])
*[[Crosshairs (Movie)|Crosshairs]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]])

====Single releases====
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|Robo-Vision Optimus Prime]] (redeco of Voyager Class Optimus Prime)
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]] ([[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]-[[homage]] redeco of Deluxe Class Autobot Jazz)
*[[Starscream (Movie)/toys|Starscream]] (Generation 1-homage redeco of Voyager Class Starscream)
*[[AllSpark Power|AllSpark]] [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Bumblebee]] (redeco of Concept Camaro Deluxe Class Bumblebee with "Allspark Power" blue accents in robot mode)
*AllSpark Autobot Jazz (redeco of Deluxe Class Autobot Jazz with "Allspark Power" blue accents in robot mode)
*AllSpark [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]] (redeco of Deluxe Class Decepticon Brawl with "Allspark Power" blue accents in robot mode)
*AllSpark [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] with [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] (redeco of Deluxe Class Barricade with "Allspark Power" blue accents in robot mode and red Frenzy)
*Deep Space Starscream (redeco of Voyager Class Starscream)

====Multipacks====
*"Evolution of a Hero" two-pack (regular Deluxe Class "Classic Camaro" Bumblebee & battle damaged "Camaro Concept" Bumblebee)
*"Generations Legends" four-pack (unchanged versions of Movie [[Legends Class]] Optimus Prime, Legends of Cybertron [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]], Movie Legends Class [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], Legends of Cybertron [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]])
*"Ultimate Optimus Prime 3-Pack" (contains [[Titanium Series]] 3" "Robot Mode" Optimus Prime, "Vehicle Mode" Optimus Prime and [[Protoform]] Optimus Prime)
* Optimus Prime Battle Rig Blaster with bonus Fast Action Battler Power Hook Optimus Prime

{{note|The above bonus pack featured unchanged versions of the Optimus Prime Battle Rig Blaster and Fast Action Battler toys.}}

* Screen Battles — "Freeway Brawl" (contains a minor redeco of Voyager Class Optimus Prime and an unchanged Deluxe Class [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]])
* Screen Battles — "Battle Over [[Mission City]]" (contains a redeco of Voyager Class Megatron and an unchanged Deluxe Class Final Battle Jazz, simply named "Autobot Jazz" here)

===Animated===
*[[Lockdown (Animated)|Stealth Lockdown]] with [[Legends Class]] [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] and Legends Class [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Optimus Prime]] (redeco of Deluxe Class Lockdown with minor redecos of Legends Class toys)
* [[Ratchet (Animated)| Rescue Ratchet]] with Legends Class [[Starscream (Animated)| Starscream]] and Legends Class [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (redeco of Deluxe Class Ratchet with minor redecos of Legends Class toys)
* [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] with Activators [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (redeco of Voyager Class Shockwave. Activators Bumblebee was unchanged.)
*[[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]] with Activators [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (redeco of Voyager Class Starscream. Activators Ratchet was unchanged.)

===Universe (2008)===
'''Legends 5-packs'''

*Aerial Rivals (Classic Series), contains:
**[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]])
**[[Blades (G1)|Autobot Blades]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]])
**[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]])
**[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]])
**[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron Starscream)
*Special Team Leaders (Classic Series), contains:
**[[Hot Spot (G1)|Autobot Hot Zone]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]]; an update of Hot Spot, not named so due to [[Trademark|trademark issues]])
**[[Hun-Gurrr]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]])
**[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]])
**[[Scattershot (G1)|Scattorshot]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Vector Prime]]; an update of Scattershot, not named so due to trademark issues)
**[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]])

'''Voyager Deluxe Comic 2-packs'''

*Autobot Ambush (G1 series), contains:
**[[Roadbuster (G1)|Autobot Roadbuster]] (redeco of Cybertron Defense [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]])
**[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' Voyager Starscream)
*Standoff Beneath the Streets (War Within series), contains:
**[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]])
**[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' Voyager [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]])

'''Titanium Series'''
*[[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Zone]] (redeco of ''Robots in Disguise'' Optimus Prime)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (redeco of ''War Within'' Optimus Prime)
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (redeco of ''War Within'' Thundercracker)

{{note|These three figures were released in 2009, well after ''Transformers'' product had ceased being released in the Titanium Series proper. The packaging co-brands them as both ''Universe'' and [[Titanium Series]] toys.}}

===Revenge of the Fallen===
*[[Superion (ROTF)|Superion]] giftset, contains:
**[[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]]
**[[Airazor (ROTF)|Airazor]]
**[[Fireflight (ROTF)|Fireflight]]
**[[Silverbolt (ROTF)|Silverbolt]]
**[[Skydive (Movie)|Skydive]]
*[[Bruticus Maximus (ROTF)|Bruticus Maximus]] giftset, contains:
**[[Blast Off (ROTF)|Blast Off]]
**[[Brawl (ROTF)|Decepticon Brawl]]
**[[Onslaught (ROTF)|Onslaught]]
**[[Swindle (ROTF)|Swindle]]
**[[Vortex (ROTF)|Vortex]]
{{Note|Superion and Bruticus Maximus were originally intended to be released in ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' packaging, and were released that way in various Asian and Oceanian countries, but for the US market, Target asked Hasbro to put them in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' packaging instead.}}
*[[The Fallen]] ("burning" [[redeco]])

* "[[Straightaway Shootout]]" five-pack (Legends Class), contains:
:*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
:*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]
:*[[Runamuck (ROTF)|Runamuck]]
:*[[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]]
:*[[Sparkcrusher]]

* "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" Legends Class 2-Pack
:*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]/[[Shadow Striker (ROTF)|Shadow Striker]]
:*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Rally Mudflap]]/[[Skids (ROTF)|Offroad Skids]]
:*[[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]]/[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]

===Transformers (2010)===
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*"Crash Landing Attack" two-pack (Deluxe Class), contains:
**[[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Bumblebee]]
**[[Thrust (ROTF)|Thrust]]
*"High-Speed Spy Battle" two-pack (Deluxe Class), contains:
**[[Skids (ROTF)|Autobot Skids]] & [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]
**[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]
*"Hunters Rumble" two-pack (Deluxe Class), contains:
**[[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]
**[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]
*"Rotorwash Rumble" two-pack (Deluxe Class), contains:
**[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]
**[[Tailwhip]]

===Dark of the Moon===
*"Bumblebee vs Megatron" contains:
**[[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Cyberverse|Bumblebee]] (Cyberverse Legion)
**[[Megatron (Movie)/toys#Cyberverse|Megatron]] (Cyberverse Commander)
*"Leadfoot and Ironhide" contains:
**[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] (Cyberverse Legion)
**[[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Cyberverse|Ironhide]] (Cyberverse Commander)
*[[Arcee (Movie)#Dark_of_the_Moon|Arcee]] (Deluxe class)
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 4|Bumblebee]] (Deluxe Class)
*[[Jazz (Movie)#Dark_of_the_Moon|Autobot Jazz]] (Deluxe Class)
*[[Space Case (DOTM)|Space Case]] (Deluxe Class)
*[[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#Voyager Class toys 4|Autobot Ratchet]] (Voyager Class)
*[[Starscream (Movie)/toys#Voyager Class toys 4|Starscream]] (Voyager Class)
*[[Leadfoot (DOTM)#Human Alliance|Leadfoot]] / [[Sergeant Detour]] and [[Steeljaw (DOTM)|Steeljaw]] (Human Alliance)

==List of non-toy Target exclusives==
===Movie (2007)===
* Optimus Prime transforming gift card
* ''Transformers''-themed version of [[Stratego]]
* ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' movie DVD with exclusive [[Planetfall (Movie)|bonus comic]]

==Unreleased toys==
===[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]===
*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]] with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Mini Optimus Prime]]
* [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]] & [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]]
{{Note|The larger Optimus Prime and Megatron toys would have been redecos of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' Leaders Class toys, the smaller toys would have been United States releases of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s [[Smallest Transforming Transformers]] figures.}}

===[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]===
* [[Drench (SG)|Drench]] vs. [[Smokescreen (unreleased)|Smokescreen]] ([[Battle in a Box]])
{{Note|The "Drench" redeco of ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]] was eventually released by the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] as the [[BotCon 2008]] exclusive ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]]. The "Smokescreen" redeco of ''Armada'' [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]] , on the other hand, remains unreleased.}}
===[[Movie (toyline)|Movie (2007)]]===
* [[Backtrack (Movie)|Backtrack]]
* [[Gunbarrel (Movie)|Gunbarrel]]
* [[Reverb (Movie)|Reverb]]

===[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers (2010)]]===
*"The Ravage Infiltration" multi-pack includes:
**[[Rollbar (RPM)|Rollbar]] (redeco of [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]])
**[[Flak (TF 2010)|Flak]] (redeco of [[Scattorshot (ROTF)|Scattorshot]])
**[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage (Legends class)]]
**Three human soldier mini-figures

{{note|This set never came out through North American Target stores, but was released in the United Kingdom as an exclusive to the Sainsbury's supermarket chain.}}

*"Sideways Sneak Attack"
**[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways (Deluxe Class)]] (battle damage deco based upon his death scene.)
**[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee (Legends Class)]]
**[[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia (Legends Class)]]
**[[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One (Legends Class)]]

===[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]===
*"Autobot Team Racers" contains:
:*[[Leadfoot (DOTM)#AutobotRacers|Leadfoot]] (MechTech Deluxe Class)
:*[[Topspin (DOTM)#AutobotRacers|Topspin]] (MechTech Deluxe Class)

==Notes==
* Target teamed with Hasbro to promote the toyline for the live-action ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' movie in its stores, working more closely with the company than perhaps any other retailer in the brand's history. Side effects of this included the [[Robo-Vision]] promotion, the transforming [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|Optimus Prime]] Target gift card, and Target donating a gift pack (containing a free $5 gift card and comic) to every pre-registered attendee of [[BotCon 2007]].
* Luckily for Canadian Transformers fans, most Target exclusive toys in recent years have been available either at general retail in Canada, or at [[wikipedia:Zellers|Zellers]]. The acquisition of many of the leases of Zellers stores by Target means this situation will change by 2014.
* [[Tania Gunadi]], the voice of [[Miko Nakadai]] in ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'', has recently done a Target Commercial where she's an elementary school teacher.

==See Also==
* [[Market six|"Market Six"]]
==External links==
*[http://www.target.com/ Official Target website]

[[Category:Companies]]
[[Category:Target exclusives| ]]
[[Category:Retailers]]

Target

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[[Image:OnlyAtTarget.png|right|350px]]

'''Target''' is a major North American retailer (although it does not have any stores in [[Canada]] yet). They have had a lot of ''Transformers'' [[Exclusive|exclusives]] over the years.

There is also an Australian Target store chain that has officially no connection to the US Target company except the name. Target Australia has also carried many ''Transformers'' toys as exclusives as far as the Australian market was concerned.

==List of Target exclusive toys==
{{note|This list only refers to the United States market. Over the years, a lot of toys that were exclusive to Target stores in the USA were available at Zellers stores on Canada, and as mass retail releases in other places such as Australia or Europe.}}
===Beast Machines===
* [[Magmatron]] (minimally-altered version of ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (toyline)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' Magmatron)

===Robots in Disguise===
* [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]] (redeco of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Transmetal 2]] [[Megatron (BW)/toys|Megatron]])
* [[Dreadwind (RID)|Dreadwind]] and [[Smokejumper]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] and [[Smokescreen (G2)|Smokescreen]])

===Universe (2003)===
*[[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime]] (redeco of ''Beast Wars Neo'' [[Big Convoy]])
*[[Overbite (Universe)|Overbite]] & [[Repugnus (Universe)|Repugnus]] two-pack (redecos of ''[[Beast Wars II (toyline)|Beast Wars II]]'' [[Starscream (BWII)|Hellscream]] and ''Beast Wars'' [[Buzzclaw (BW)|Buzzclaw]])
*[[Long Haul (Universe Ultra)|Long Haul]] & [[Hightower (Universe Ultra)|Hightower]] two-pack (redecos of ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Heavy Load (RID)|Heavy Load]] and [[Hightower (RID)|Hightower]])
* [[Bonecrusher (Universe Ultra)|Bonecrusher]] & [[Scavenger (Universe Ultra)|Scavenger]] two-pack (redecos of ''Robots in Disguise'' [[Wedge]] and [[Grimlock (RID)|Grimlock]])

{{note|The three two-packs above were originally planned to be released as wave 4 of the Universe Ultra assortment. They were briefly listed, but not actually ''sold'' on HasbroToyShop.com before the deal to release them through Target was reached.}}

===Cybertron===
*Critical Path Pack ([[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]] and [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]])
*Drag Race Pack ([[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]] and [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]])
*Ground to Air Blast Pack ([[Crosswise (Cybertron)|Crosswise]] and [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]])

{{note|These three two-packs featured unchanged versions of the Deluxe Class toys of the same names.}}

*[[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]] with bonus Mini-Cons [[Razorclaw (Cybertron)|Razorclaw]] and [[Steamhammer (Cybertron)|Steamhammer]]
*[[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]] with bonus Mini-Cons [[Sky Lynx (Cybertron)|Sky Lynx]] and [[Thunderblast (Mini-Con)|Thunderblast]]
*[[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] with bonus Mini-Cons [[Shockwave (Cybertron)|Shockwave]] & [[Tankor (Cybertron)|Tankor]]

{{note|These three bonus packs featured unchanged versions of the Voyager Class and Mini-Con Class toys of the same names.}}

*Legends 4-Pack (unchanged [[Legends Class|Legends of Cybertron]] [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]], [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]], [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] and [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]])

===Classics===
*Battle for Autobot City: [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys|Ultra Magnus]] vs [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (redecos of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]])

===''Transformers'' (2007)===
====Scout Class====
'''Wave 1'''

*[[Hardtop (Movie)|Hardtop]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Hardtop (Cybertron)|Hardtop]])
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] (redeco of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]])
*[[Signal Flare (Movie)|Signal Flare]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Signal Flare (Energon)|Signal Flare]])

'''Wave 2'''

*[[Strongarm (Movie)|Strongarm]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]])
*[[Skyblast (Movie)|Skyblast]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]])
*[[Clocker (Movie)|Clocker]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Clocker (Cybertron)|Clocker]])

'''Wave 3'''

*[[Armorhide (Movie)|Armorhide]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Armorhide (Cybertron)|Armorhide]])
*[[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]])
*[[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]])

'''Wave 4 (Allspark Power Wave 1)'''

*[[Warpath (Movie)|Warpath]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Overhaul]])
*[[Storm Surge (Movie)|Storm Surge]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Shortround]])
*[[Crosshairs (Movie)|Crosshairs]] (redeco of ''Energon'' [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]])

====Single releases====
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|Robo-Vision Optimus Prime]] (redeco of Voyager Class Optimus Prime)
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]] ([[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]-[[homage]] redeco of Deluxe Class Autobot Jazz)
*[[Starscream (Movie)/toys|Starscream]] (Generation 1-homage redeco of Voyager Class Starscream)
*[[AllSpark Power|AllSpark]] [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Bumblebee]] (redeco of Concept Camaro Deluxe Class Bumblebee with "Allspark Power" blue accents in robot mode)
*AllSpark Autobot Jazz (redeco of Deluxe Class Autobot Jazz with "Allspark Power" blue accents in robot mode)
*AllSpark [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]] (redeco of Deluxe Class Decepticon Brawl with "Allspark Power" blue accents in robot mode)
*AllSpark [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] with [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] (redeco of Deluxe Class Barricade with "Allspark Power" blue accents in robot mode and red Frenzy)
*Deep Space Starscream (redeco of Voyager Class Starscream)

====Multipacks====
*"Evolution of a Hero" two-pack (regular Deluxe Class "Classic Camaro" Bumblebee & battle damaged "Camaro Concept" Bumblebee)
*"Generations Legends" four-pack (unchanged versions of Movie [[Legends Class]] Optimus Prime, Legends of Cybertron [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]], Movie Legends Class [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], Legends of Cybertron [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]])
*"Ultimate Optimus Prime 3-Pack" (contains [[Titanium Series]] 3" "Robot Mode" Optimus Prime, "Vehicle Mode" Optimus Prime and [[Protoform]] Optimus Prime)
* Optimus Prime Battle Rig Blaster with bonus Fast Action Battler Power Hook Optimus Prime

{{note|The above bonus pack featured unchanged versions of the Optimus Prime Battle Rig Blaster and Fast Action Battler toys.}}

* Screen Battles — "Freeway Brawl" (contains a minor redeco of Voyager Class Optimus Prime and an unchanged Deluxe Class [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]])
* Screen Battles — "Battle Over [[Mission City]]" (contains a redeco of Voyager Class Megatron and an unchanged Deluxe Class Final Battle Jazz, simply named "Autobot Jazz" here)

===Animated===
*[[Lockdown (Animated)|Stealth Lockdown]] with [[Legends Class]] [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] and Legends Class [[Optimus Prime (Animated)/toys|Optimus Prime]] (redeco of Deluxe Class Lockdown with minor redecos of Legends Class toys)
* [[Ratchet (Animated)| Rescue Ratchet]] with Legends Class [[Starscream (Animated)| Starscream]] and Legends Class [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (redeco of Deluxe Class Ratchet with minor redecos of Legends Class toys)
* [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] with Activators [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (redeco of Voyager Class Shockwave. Activators Bumblebee was unchanged.)
*[[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]] with Activators [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (redeco of Voyager Class Starscream. Activators Ratchet was unchanged.)

===Universe (2008)===
'''Legends 5-packs'''

*Aerial Rivals (Classic Series), contains:
**[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]])
**[[Blades (G1)|Autobot Blades]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]])
**[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]])
**[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]])
**[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron Starscream)
*Special Team Leaders (Classic Series), contains:
**[[Hot Spot (G1)|Autobot Hot Zone]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]]; an update of Hot Spot, not named so due to [[Trademark|trademark issues]])
**[[Hun-Gurrr]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]])
**[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Leobreaker]])
**[[Scattershot (G1)|Scattorshot]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Vector Prime]]; an update of Scattershot, not named so due to trademark issues)
**[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (redeco of Legends of Cybertron [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]])

'''Voyager Deluxe Comic 2-packs'''

*Autobot Ambush (G1 series), contains:
**[[Roadbuster (G1)|Autobot Roadbuster]] (redeco of Cybertron Defense [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]])
**[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' Voyager Starscream)
*Standoff Beneath the Streets (War Within series), contains:
**[[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]])
**[[Springer (G1)|Springer]] (redeco of ''Cybertron'' Voyager [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]])

'''Titanium Series'''
*[[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Zone]] (redeco of ''Robots in Disguise'' Optimus Prime)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (redeco of ''War Within'' Optimus Prime)
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (redeco of ''War Within'' Thundercracker)

{{note|These three figures were released in 2009, well after ''Transformers'' product had ceased being released in the Titanium Series proper. The packaging co-brands them as both ''Universe'' and [[Titanium Series]] toys.}}

===Revenge of the Fallen===
*[[Superion (ROTF)|Superion]] giftset, contains:
**[[Air Raid (Movie)|Air Raid]]
**[[Airazor (ROTF)|Airazor]]
**[[Fireflight (ROTF)|Fireflight]]
**[[Silverbolt (ROTF)|Silverbolt]]
**[[Skydive (Movie)|Skydive]]
*[[Bruticus Maximus (ROTF)|Bruticus Maximus]] giftset, contains:
**[[Blast Off (ROTF)|Blast Off]]
**[[Brawl (ROTF)|Decepticon Brawl]]
**[[Onslaught (ROTF)|Onslaught]]
**[[Swindle (ROTF)|Swindle]]
**[[Vortex (ROTF)|Vortex]]
{{Note|Superion and Bruticus Maximus were originally intended to be released in ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' packaging, and were released that way in various Asian and Oceanian countries, but for the US market, Target asked Hasbro to put them in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' packaging instead.}}
*[[The Fallen]] ("burning" [[redeco]])

* "[[Straightaway Shootout]]" five-pack (Legends Class), contains:
:*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]
:*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]
:*[[Runamuck (ROTF)|Runamuck]]
:*[[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]]
:*[[Sparkcrusher]]

* "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" Legends Class 2-Pack
:*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]/[[Shadow Striker (ROTF)|Shadow Striker]]
:*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Rally Mudflap]]/[[Skids (ROTF)|Offroad Skids]]
:*[[Smokescreen (Movie)|Smokescreen]]/[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]

===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TargetHuntersRumble.jpg|thumb|250px|"Are ''you'' Username Ladiesman217?" "No." "Oh. Never mind."]]

*"Crash Landing Attack" two-pack (Deluxe Class), contains:
**[[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Bumblebee]]
**[[Thrust (ROTF)|Thrust]]
*"High-Speed Spy Battle" two-pack (Deluxe Class), contains:
**[[Skids (ROTF)|Autobot Skids]] & [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]
**[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]
*"Hunters Rumble" two-pack (Deluxe Class), contains:
**[[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]
**[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]
*"Rotorwash Rumble" two-pack (Deluxe Class), contains:
**[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]
**[[Tailwhip]]

===Dark of the Moon===
*"Bumblebee vs Megatron" contains:
**[[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Cyberverse|Bumblebee]] (Cyberverse Legion)
**[[Megatron (Movie)/toys#Cyberverse|Megatron]] (Cyberverse Commander)
*"Leadfoot and Ironhide" contains:
**[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] (Cyberverse Legion)
**[[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Cyberverse|Ironhide]] (Cyberverse Commander)
*[[Arcee (Movie)#Dark_of_the_Moon|Arcee]] (Deluxe class)
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 4|Bumblebee]] (Deluxe Class)
*[[Jazz (Movie)#Dark_of_the_Moon|Autobot Jazz]] (Deluxe Class)
*[[Space Case (DOTM)|Space Case]] (Deluxe Class)
*[[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#Voyager Class toys 4|Autobot Ratchet]] (Voyager Class)
*[[Starscream (Movie)/toys#Voyager Class toys 4|Starscream]] (Voyager Class)
*[[Leadfoot (DOTM)#Human Alliance|Leadfoot]] / [[Sergeant Detour]] and [[Steeljaw (DOTM)|Steeljaw]] (Human Alliance)

==List of non-toy Target exclusives==
===Movie (2007)===
* Optimus Prime transforming gift card
* ''Transformers''-themed version of [[Stratego]]
* ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' movie DVD with exclusive [[Planetfall (Movie)|bonus comic]]

==Unreleased toys==
===[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]===
*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]] with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Mini Optimus Prime]]
* [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]] & [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]]
{{Note|The larger Optimus Prime and Megatron toys would have been redecos of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' Leaders Class toys, the smaller toys would have been United States releases of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s [[Smallest Transforming Transformers]] figures.}}

===[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]===
* [[Drench (SG)|Drench]] vs. [[Smokescreen (unreleased)|Smokescreen]] ([[Battle in a Box]])
{{Note|The "Drench" redeco of ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Wheeljack (Armada)|Wheeljack]] was eventually released by the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] as the [[BotCon 2008]] exclusive ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]]. The "Smokescreen" redeco of ''Armada'' [[Hot Shot (Armada)/toys|Hot Shot]] , on the other hand, remains unreleased.}}
===[[Movie (toyline)|Movie (2007)]]===
* [[Backtrack (Movie)|Backtrack]]
* [[Gunbarrel (Movie)|Gunbarrel]]
* [[Reverb (Movie)|Reverb]]

===[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers (2010)]]===
*"The Ravage Infiltration" multi-pack includes:
**[[Rollbar (RPM)|Rollbar]] (redeco of [[Dune Runner (ROTF)|Dune Runner]])
**[[Flak (TF 2010)|Flak]] (redeco of [[Scattorshot (ROTF)|Scattorshot]])
**[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage (Legends class)]]
**Three human soldier mini-figures

{{note|This set never came out through North American Target stores, but was released in the United Kingdom as an exclusive to the Sainsbury's supermarket chain.}}

*"Sideways Sneak Attack"
**[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways (Deluxe Class)]] (battle damage deco based upon his death scene.)
**[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee (Legends Class)]]
**[[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia (Legends Class)]]
**[[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One (Legends Class)]]

===[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]===
*"Autobot Team Racers" contains:
:*[[Leadfoot (DOTM)#AutobotRacers|Leadfoot]] (MechTech Deluxe Class)
:*[[Topspin (DOTM)#AutobotRacers|Topspin]] (MechTech Deluxe Class)

==Notes==
* Target teamed with Hasbro to promote the toyline for the live-action ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' movie in its stores, working more closely with the company than perhaps any other retailer in the brand's history. Side effects of this included the [[Robo-Vision]] promotion, the transforming [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|Optimus Prime]] Target gift card, and Target donating a gift pack (containing a free $5 gift card and comic) to every pre-registered attendee of [[BotCon 2007]].
* Luckily for Canadian Transformers fans, most Target exclusive toys in recent years have been available either at general retail in Canada, or at [[wikipedia:Zellers|Zellers]]. The acquisition of many of the leases of Zellers stores by Target means this situation will change by 2014.
* [[Tania Gunadi]], the voice of [[Miko Nakadai]] in ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'', has recently done a Target Commercial where she's an elementary school teacher.

==See Also==
* [[Market six|"Market Six"]]
==External links==
*[http://www.target.com/ Official Target website]

[[Category:Companies]]
[[Category:Target exclusives| ]]
[[Category:Retailers]]

Talk:Onslaught (WFC)

2013-04-06T14:46:39Z

GalvatronTerror: /* Deluxe instead of Voyager? */ new section

Are we actually treating him as a Constructicon? As it says on the Exodus page that seems likely to have been a typo. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 08:30, 17 July 2010 (EDT)
:I was wondering that myself. Unless it is revealed that he was a Constructicon who was reformatted into a more "combative" mode, it seems that that should be dropped. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:33, 17 July 2010 (EDT)

==Most played DLC character==
*I saw a lot of TF WFC fans playing Onslaught then other DLC characters. Should we consider that Onslaught is the most played DLC character of this game. [[Special:Contributions/81.131.235.156|81.131.235.156]] 19:17, 17 November 2010 (EST)
:That's really just pointless trivia, and it's pretty subjective since I, personally, don't see Onslaught that much. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 19:20, 17 November 2010 (EST)

== About the picture captions... ==

I think the caption for the first picture should be changed. Because he has been confirmed as a roaring dudicus. --[[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] 09:31, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

==G2 deco repurpose?==
Although I understand that the G2 deco is the G1 character, because of the box info, if the G2 deco ends up as DLC for the FOC game, then wouldn't that mean they repurposed the G2 toy into the WFC character? [[Special:Contributions/71.238.50.144|71.238.50.144]] 07:37, 23 July 2012 (EDT)
:Given one of the skins is blatantly G1 Prime, I would imagine not. Unless you want to say that G1 Prime was repurposed into Aligned Prime, and no one wants that. Also, the G2 skin for Bruticus doesn't have G2 symbols, for whatever that's worth. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:23, 23 July 2012 (EDT)
:DLC often includes things from different continuity families, like the various G1 bodies available for the movie games. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:12, 23 July 2012 (EDT)
::Concur. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:16, 23 July 2012 (EDT)
:::I have pictures of Onslaught and the rest of the Combaticons toys if you want to add them to Onslaught's and the Combaticons' toy sections.[[User:The Grimlock Prime|The Grimlock Prime]] 19:49, 20 September 2012 (EDT)
:::: Was it not clear enough the first time you asked, that the Amazon/BBTS deco is a representation of G1 Bruticus? The picutres are already on [[Onslaught (G1)|Generation 1 Onslaught]]'s page! This discussion was settled months ago. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:10, 20 September 2012 (EDT)
:::::Oh. Sorry about that. I had just checked on G1 Bruticus's page and not on the G1 Onslaught page.[[User:The Grimlock Prime|The Grimlock Prime]] 20:16, 20 September 2012 (EDT)

== Deluxe instead of Voyager? ==

Why does the toy have a Deluxe class size and not a Voyager the toy would be so much better if they had done that now who agrees with me?
[[User:GalvatronTerror|GalvatronTerror]]

User talk:GalvatronTerror

2012-06-13T02:42:09Z

GalvatronTerror: Removing all content from page

Talk:Shelfwarmer

2012-05-06T21:50:27Z

GalvatronTerror:

Real Gears move O.K. in my neck of the woods.

Signal flare and Offshoot however, despite their awesomeness, lasted for years.[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]] 03:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

:Yeah, I'm not sure the entire Real Gear line could be lumped in as "pegwarmers". I know there's some give and take depending on where you're located, but it's not like there's pegs and pegs of these things just sittin' around for months on end... -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::...well, there are everyplace I've looked since July. I guess it is a regional difference, but if so it's a very stark and extreme one.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
::I'd say Signal Flare and Offshoot should replace the Real Gears. The Real Gears are moving well, I haven't seen Meantime and the gorilla game controller since I picked up my own. Signal Flare and Offshoot were hanging around well into 2006. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah the way things went over the summer, I don't think one can objectively call ''any'' of the movie toyline "shelfwarmers" in the truest sense. At least in the case of the actual transforming toys rather than all the tie-in merchandise, nearly every store has had trouble keeping them on the shelves.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 04:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Power-Up is the only RGR who I'd say would qualify as a shelfwarmer. Everyone eles moved and moved well... and I've hit a LOT of stores in a fair few states since the movei-line launch. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:26, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Swindle and Bonecrusher in Germany. Seriously. I know I might sound like a broken record, but these fuckers are STILL warming the pegs in half a dozen stores I visited over the past few weeks, and that's more than three months after the two of them first came out. One TRU store even still has TWO ENTIRE SHELVES full of them.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:57, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Supreme Cheetor and Alternators Swindle should be added to this page, I think. Also, I don't know if it was only my area that was like this, but the stores in my area were LOADED with Drill Bit and Manterror for years, even after Beast Machines was on the shelves and even after Transquito and BW Scavenger finally vanished. Wal-Mart, Target, K-Mart (ESPECIALLY K-Mart), even the GROCERY STORES had these guys flooding the shelves for years. They made it hard to get early Beast Machines toys until the stores finally decided to take them off the shelves. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C.V. Reynolds]] 11:15, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

:Oh, excuse me. I should tried to make my comment actually make some... sense. Yes, Drill Bit and Manterror were on the shelves all through the remainder of Beast Wars, but they didn't cause as much trouble as I made out. Some of the stores were giving more space to Transformers at the time, after all. It did briefly seem like Drill Bit and Manterror were disappearing at one point, but they returned in full before Beast Machines. I believe that the stores may have wanted to take one more try to clear their inventory of an ending line, and put out their remaining shelfwarmers in hopes they might actually sell. Much like in the case of the Fuzors, clearance failed to work for these guys as well. Still don't know if any other places were flooded with Drill Bit or Manterror, though. [[User:71.243.235.10|71.243.235.10]] 11:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC) It logged me out while I was typing my message for some reason, so I'm re-signing. Sorry about that. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C.V. Reynolds]] 11:33, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

As a random aside, and possibly an isolated case, but I remember as late as... I dunno, but the first waves of Toy Biz Marvel Heroes were out, there were still reasonable piles of Insecticons at some toy stores in the Atlanta area. (Specifically, at a Lionel Toy World near my childhood home - I found them while looking for the first Toy-Biz Daredevil, shoulda bought 'em). [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 02:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

This might be pointless to ask, but can we get some verification on the shelfwarmer/pegwarmer status of some of these toys, especially Transformers Movie Stockade? I can verify as a personal eyewitness that Movie version Payload is a pegwarmer (my local Wal-Mart store has about two or three pegs filled with nothing but Payload). However, I've only seen Stockade from time to time, so he seems to be quite popular in my area. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 02:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Current (April 2009) shelfwarmers... ==

The TRU exclusive Mudflap should probably be mentioned, a shelfwarming redeco of a shelfwarmer. Whose bright idea was this?
Also, is it just my area that seems to have unlimited numbers of original deco Animated Lugnuts? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:35, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

It's July and ROTF is out (obviously). Try buying a Voyager Movie 2 anything that isn't fucking Demolishor. I checked pretty much every toyshop worth looking at in London, and only once managed to find Starscream (or indeed anything that wasn't Demolishor).

That's London as in the largest city in the UK. Yeah. {{unsigned|81.154.60.137|16:24, 15 July 2009}}
:Demolishor certainly seems to be around in greater numbers than most other Voyagers here in San Antonio, but I still see a fair number of Starscreams and Stratospheres, a few Megatrons, and sometimes some Optimus Primes. The Fallen and Mixmaster have also shown up, but haven't been refreshed on the shelves as often, at least at the Wal-Marts and Targets to which I've had time to go.
:The point is, while Demolishor may indeed turn out to be shelfwarmer, your local Voyager availability status alone isn't enough to judge. Your situation is regrettable, but not necessarily representative of the situation anywhere beyond London, or at least whatever falls within your definition of "toyshop[s] worth looking at in London".
:Oh—and please don't forget to sign your talk page posts. Click the signature button (second from the right) above the edit window, or type four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 18:19, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

=== as for August 2009... ===

While the fifth wave of Animated STILL haven't reached Poland, there's LOTS AND PLENTY of Jazzes, Oil-Slicks (seriously, who would want this guy...?), Snarls (same here - but Swoops have vanished!) and Soundwaves lying around. Damn, they even started to cut these Deluxes' prices by half in some markets. ...but try buying first wave's Prowl for example. I went on a ''damn shopping crusade'' and in the end I settled for an online shop. And international shopping's is ''really'' expensive. At last I found my Prowl in an obscure toy shop, totally by chance, by the way. I bet it was the last copy around. ''And we're talking 'bout the capital here.'' Ah, the bitter joy of being TF fan while living on the Outer Rim of the galaxy.
-- [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 06:28, 29 August 2009 (EDT)

=== As of March 2010 ===
Big Bad Toy Store claims to be sold out of Battle Unicorns. I just looked. (Darn darn darn darn darn. I want that toy. I smell [[Scalping|scalpers]]). [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 23:09, 15 March 2010 (EDT)

== Japanese movie toys ==

Am i the only one who noticed that they are publishing Japanese movie toys in retail now? I noticed it in Belgium, but i have no idea if the rest of Europe/America has the same trend. If so, could this be considered to be such shelfwarmers that they try to get rid of the Japanese toys in time for the ROTF toy line?(not that i'm complaining...clear windows '76 Bumblebee? battle damage Arcee? count me in!)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:23, 25 April 2009 (EDT)

==Titanium Galvatron==
The major shelfwarmer ever? Titanium Galvatron, he has been lying around in my city for years, and only one store got rid of him, by selling himm at $2. In other stores (just one because the other having him closed and they had like 10 of him) there are about 6 or 7 and there's so little chance of him selling out (has been there for 3 years), that I call the place "Galvatron's lair", and to make matters worse, they STILL have the T.E.C.H. line.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:16, 30 December 2009 (EST)
:Both Titanium Galvatron and the T.E.C.H line are still there, I guess that sets a new record.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 03:38, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
::Might come as a shocker for most of you, but Galvatron is STILL there, he appeared to be gone, but it seems he never left. Might have to buy the little guy afterall and erect an altar in his honor.-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 04:40, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Wow! Just wow. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:13, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

== Mudflap ==

In Northern VA, Mudflap, along with the "Tuner" variant are major shelfwarmers. Is this true in any other places?--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:49, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

He does shelfwarm quite well in France - in my sector, anyway (along with Chromia, Skids and Wheelie...) --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 16:04, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
: All over the place here. Some stores, he's at least 90% of the peg contents. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:14, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
::Around here (NC foothills) both twins, in all size classes, are major shelfwarmers. When will movie makers learn that trying to force a "kid appeal" character never works? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:45, 6 July 2010 (EDT)
:::He's all over the place here, too. TRU is sold out of all their new stock except for a few HFTD Legends and one PCC, but Tuner Mudflap still dominates. Here's a thread on seibertron.com about it: http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/tuner-mudflap-killed-wal-mart-s-transformer-section-p1101154.php--[[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 16:04, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
::::I haven't seen him. But then again, I live in Belgium and the local store is full of ROTF Demolishors anyway. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 16:18, 21 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::You know what, Hasbro should never use the name Mudflap again, is cursed. I went to many stores in Texas, Alabama and Florida and every store had Mudflaps and Tuner Mudflaps, in some cases it was the entire Deluxe pricepoint.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 02:00, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
::::::It's not so much the name that's cursed, as much as it's Hasbro releasing what amounts to practically the same toy twice, within a very short timespan. I know they're going for "recognizability" here but ''GEEZ''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:05, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Plus, it's a crappy toy. It makes the previous [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]] toy look great by comparison. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:16, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:I wouldn't say "crappy", but Hasbro could of done better. Btw, one of my local Walmart stores in the northern part of South Carolina had plenty of Tuner Mudflaps. Meanwhile, the one closest to me has Sideways and Dead End clogging up the pegs (maybe they should trade some?). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:29, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

== Verbosing/De-verbosing ==

Hey, Loki? My cleanup actually made the page shorter (''not'' more verbose), and cut out a lot of redundant adjectives. I also shortened or split a bunch of run-on sentences. And, some of the original text simply makes no sense, like "As the fandom became more aware of the concept of shelfwarmers and as Hasbro changed its strategies in selling toys to retailers, documenting what is and isn't a shelfwarmer became more and more acute." How can ''documenting'' be made more "acute"? So, instead of a wholesale revert, could you tell me which specific bits of my edit you had problems with? 'Cause I still think the last part of this page needs serious cleanup. Thanks! [[User:JW|JW]] 15:10, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:Looking at a lot of overuse of contractions, quotation marks, and useless parentheses makes it look much less formal like a 14-year-old wrote it. Besides, filesize is not inversely proportionate to the amount of useful information contained within the article; sure you could make it shorter ''and'' cut out verboseness, but it is possible to have more uneeded words with a shorter page by cutting out useful information in favor of the text in question. Special symbols like quotation marks and parentheses should be used sparingly, opt to learn how to use semicolons effectively and how to word sentences to stress certain words or phrases without quotation marks. As for "How can documenting be made more "acute"?", acute means sharp and so can mean clear like a clear command or sentence, resulting in the sentence meaning "Documenting can be made clearer by presenting more accurate information" without so many words by using the word "acute". Also, don't fuss about your edit being reverted. In this case, I reverted it so while you are making a better cleanup the rest of us don't have to read your not up to par changes in the meantime. Although there are [[User:Detour|some]] [[User:Eire|people]] who are very fussy about ''their pages'' being edited in a way they don't necessarily like, I don't revert edits for reasons like that. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 15:29, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::Loki, I'm the author or co-author of a dozen or so books (available through Amazon; tell your friends!), so I do know my way around grammar. And I'm not making a fuss, I'm beginning a discussion. Third, while "acute" does indeed mean "sharp", "severe", "penetrating", "brief", or "sensitive", it does not mean "clear" or "easy" in normal usage. If you can point to an example elsewhere where it's used that way, I'd be enlightened.
::Regardless, thank you for your reply. If I feel a need to edit this page again, I'll start with a strict trim for length, so we can take things one step at a time. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:44, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::If I should cite where acute can mean clear, then you should cite what books you authored because all I have to go on about your knowledge of grammar is that you play with legos, not that making lego creations at your high caliber is a bad thing but it does make me think that grammar is the least of your worries. At least you can spell the word "grammar" as I see not a whole lot of people can around here. Immediately demanding as to why I edited your edits a minute after I made them does seem like you were making a fuss over it, but at least I am not the type to start a mediocre playground argument. Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to "I did this wonderful thing that automatically makes me smart" sounds like you made it up just to try to impress me, however shamelessly and soullessly advertizing it in the same sentence also makes me give you the benefit of the doubt. But do not worry, another user has already put your edit back on top, not that I agree with his edits either. I am not re-reverting that edit because I do not want to look like those who just revert every single revertation without a written reason like [[User:Khajidha|that person]] to any of the moderators. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 16:00, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::I reverted it because JW had clarified several sentences and reduced the verbosity of the paragraph. Also, I question the validity of the grammatical opinions of a person who uses verbose as a verb (I'm giving JW the benefit of the doubt that his section header is simply playing off of your usage). Not to mention that there is no such word as "revertation", it's reversion. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:08, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::Playing? Moi? Thanks for the positive vote, Khajidha. I was worried I'd lost my touch. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:27, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::[[Furmanism|Just what are you playing at]], JW? Sorry, had to do it :) --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 16:43, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Hey, my Furmanism days are ''over, '''fin-''''' uh, completed. Um. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:46, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::I did change a few things that I felt were still unclear or clunky. I also removed pipes from links that didn't need them ([[retool]]s instead of [[Retool|retools]]).--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:45, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::''then you should cite what books you authored''
::::The first link on my user page is to a bibliography. My real name is also there, and can be used to search on Amazon. Loki, may I ask a personal question? Your writing is very precise and usually correct, but kinda stilted. Is English not your first langauge? For example, "Hell, writing an argument that is boiled down to..." is arguably okay, but would much more often be written as, "Hell, writing an argument that boils down to..." or even, "Hell, you wrote an argument that boils down to..." Further, you used "advertizing", which is a very rare spelling of the word, and you didn't capitalize "Lego". So, I ask, because you intend to be this Wiki's "Grammar Nazi", and I'm curious about your bona fides. Please let me know if I offend.
::::(Also, dude, this is a website about robot toys. Getting condescending because I also "play with legos" {sic} is ''inane.'') [[User:JW|JW]] 16:23, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::::It's best not to take someone's user name too seriously. I personally couldn't think of anything better as my real name isn't too good and flashy of a screen name. Sure, I may have made a few mistakes here and there but everyone does. English most definitely is my first language, but I have read many a book by some authors who don't have a very good grasp on it plus a few southern local trends do play a subtle part in my method of speech. Usually I do not police my writing on the internet with as much scrutiny as demonstrated in places like in my personal writing or even writing for an academic assignment where editing myself up to par with my own standards requires contant editing in bursts, as you can probably see in my user contributions. Sometimes my train of thought exceeds the speed that I can type at and some words get lost in the [[void]] and don't get typed down and so look horrible. Besides, most of the edits that live up to my screen name are for punctuation like too many commas or misuse of colons and semicolons, though I do rarely alter the structure of a sentence so it sounds ''right'', whatever that may mean to any one person. Overall, you seem more like the kind of person I could get along with... grammatically, of course. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 17:15, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::::::Lord knows I can be obsessive about commas, too. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:52, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

== Animated shelfwarmers ==

[[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]] and [[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]], anyone? All of the Toys R Us locations I've been to recently (in Canada and the USA) are packed with these guys. While Walmart and Target have gotten rid of Animated products to make room for 2010 and Generations, Toys R Us has the new lines while leaving Snarl and Oil Slick to lie around. Plus, someone above me mentioned them. There were also 11 (I counted) Atomic Lugnuts, but I don't think he's shelfwarming nearly as bad as the other two. Do they deserve a mention in the article? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:36, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
:Around here Snarl is clogging shelves but Oil Slick sells about as well as any other animated figure. The squadrons of Lugnuts (both decos) eventually disappeared after several months. Animated Ratchet is possibly the biggest shelfwarmer at my local TRU. Arcee, Rodimus, even Ironhide disappear instantly, this guy stays and stays. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:04, 13 October 2010 (EDT)
::At my TRU it's the same, with a lone Electrostatic Soundwave as the only non-Cybertronian Ratchet hold out.--[[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 21:16, 14 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Animated is pretty much all sold out where I am. Even the single, solitary Lugnut that had been hanging around for months is gone. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 02:12, 15 October 2010 (EDT)

== The Retail Cross Reference Conundrum ==

Something I'm not immediately seeing described in brief Google searches or here in this wiki is what I've taken to calling the "Cross Reference Conundrum" and that's when retail cross references (the store's computer system treating different toys of the same class and price as if they were the same item for stocking purposes) forces the unpopular toys to stick around taking up space and filling the store's count and end up blocking the popular ones from either shipping or, in the case of less-than-mindful employees, being stocked despite boxes sitting in the backroom. I work at a retail store that sells Transformers and since a single space can be dedicated to a great many toys from the same size class/price point, the store's quota is filled because it has all it "needs", even if the majority (or heck, even every last one) is some lousy repaint nobody wants to buy. Sure enough, when the space finally does sell down at whatever pathetic pace and the popular ones are restocked, they sell out in no time. I've seen some popular Voyager Class toys sell in mere hours after they were stocked into space previously occupied by other Voyagers that took a few weeks to sell. I swear, the existence of cross references and its unintended survival-of-the-least-popular side effect likely reduces some sales to a fraction of what they would be, and I'm amazed retailers and toy manufacturers like Hasbro tolerate this. (Or am I mistaken and do sales, whether fast or slow always somehow equalize in the end?)

Anyone else note this phenomenon in the world of transformers, or even toys in general? I'm not certain what search terms would bring up discussions about it, but I've even had employees at other, unrelated stores tell me "If we get it, it will appear here, but until these sell down we won't be receiving anymore." or words to that effect. Any on-line references could justify a mention in this article, but without such refs, I'd just be ranting with such an inclusion.

Thanks, {{unsigned|4.254.80.136}}
: That makes a lot of sense, and if we can get a little corroboration would be a valuable contribution to the article. [[User:JW|JW]] 10:14, 6 December 2010 (EST)
::I spoke to a Hasbro rep who was in my local Walmart a few months ago about this. According to her, Walmart uses the system described above where as long as there is product on the shelf new orders won't be made even if all 49 figures are Tuner Mudflaps. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:24, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, that sounds exactly right. Everything is done by item count, and if every Deluxe Transformer whether Generations, HFTD, ROTF, or RTS, is scanned as TRANS DLX FIG then as long as there are an adequate number of TRANS DLX FIG on the shelf, there's no need to put more out. (This also leads to cases where ostensibly JUST Hunt for the Decepticons Deluxes are on sale, but all Deluxes ring up at the sale price.) We just need this clarified and explained by a reliable and citable reference. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 10:48, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::Yeah, I knew my conversation wouldn't be a reliable source, just confirming that the general idea is correct and should be explored. I also think that the different main lines are inventoried seperately, meaning that Generations would get reordered even if HFTD was still clogging shelves. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:56, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Having worked in one of the aforementioned toy departments, I can confirm that Khajidha's information from the Hasbro rep is correct. I believe Khajidha's right about main lines being inventoried separately as well. I left toys before Universe 2003 started so I don't know for sure how concurrent lines are being handled, but I do know that RID, Armada, and Energon were not cross-referenced with each other. Have to wonder who would be a reliable and citable source that would also be willing to verify our information in a reliable and citable way? I don't see Wal-Mart wanting to verify this at such a level. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:10, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::::This sucks. Those Tuner Mudflaps are gonna limit the deluxe stock of Transformers for YEARS! --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 17:36, 7 December 2010 (EST)

== UK Entertainer shelfwarmers as of June 2011 ==

Seems that ROTF Mixmaster is still at Entertainer stores across the West Midlands of the UK (possibly nationwide) in bloody fleets. There must've been a massive glut of the middle waves of ROTF because skids, mudflap and chromia did the same and it meant Generations and RTS never made it onto their shelves. HFTD never made it past wave 1. What's truly sad is a recent fleet of those first movie ''unleashed'' Megatron statues have suddenly arrived and nobody gives a toss. Animated Shockwaves and Skywarps did the same last year but those were desireable. They're still trying to clear out the Bumblebee voice changers as well. [[User:Durge|Durge]] 11:52, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

==Epic shelfwarmer fail==
At my locale SuperStore I found the last Animated toy and it is 2012!!!! I'm about to buy it

Talk:Sentinel Prime (Animated)

2012-05-06T20:54:34Z

GalvatronTerror:

Where is this sourced from?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 20:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Re: Where's this sourced from? ==

It's sourced from the NTFA clip of Animated. Keep the article. [[User:72.194.91.250|72.194.91.250]]
# Please use spoiler tags when describing things in unaired episodes.
# Please adhere to the style guide. That means writing in-universe, so using phrases "as seen at NTFA" in the fiction section is right-out wrong.
# I love donuts.
:--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
::Can I blame this this sort of writing on the Wikipedia? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Personally I had to ask because it had been added by you-know-who, and was a direct copy of [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 03:56, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

His main image caption goddamn well better be '''''SPOOOOOOON!!!'''''. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:55, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
:Granted --[[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 01:05, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Surely, this cartoon will be the Epic Battle of the Chins. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 01:25, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

:Agreed, but we all know [[Starscream (Animated)|Chinscream]] will win. --[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 17:14, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

: Allright, who changed the awesome cations of this page?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 16:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::I know I changed the main image quote from "SPOOOOOOON!" to another caption. However the caption that I changed it to was still a Tick quote, specifically from "The Tick vs. The Tick." I considered it appropriate.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::I still think the original caption of his first image to be better fitting with "spoon!" below it. I just can't see that he would willingly call himself a jerk with that huge ego.(because his high and mighty statues, i would even bet he will hate humans.)--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 17:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:::Ah, but that jerk line's another Tick reference. And a much more fitting one might I add, just based on Sentinel Prime's personality as we've seen it. [[User:155.33.129.146|155.33.129.146]] 17:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::We can always save the "SPOOOOOOOOOON" quote for when we inevitably have an image of him in battle. As it was the Tick's battle cry, it would be quite appropriate in that context. - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 01:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I can agree with that point, even though I think "'''''SPOOOOOOON!'''''" is quite funny (being one of those naturally funny words and all). With the other image caption, I changed it from "Party at my starship..." into "...THE GUN SHOW" because I thought it seemed more appropriate because of his transformation. Just watch the transformation and see what you think.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 04:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

==changing jerk to dick==

: Why does someone change all the words with jerk in it into dick? I'm not the one doing it, but it's annoying to see 1à edits of it on the "recent changes" list. And why bother with something like that anyway?--[[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]] 19:26, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
::Some anon keeps doing it. I think it's an attempt to use a stronger word than jerk. Personally, I prefer jerk, since I'd rather not have little kids come here looking for info and start using it in sentences. Kids shouldn't pick up swear words on the internet...they should hear them at school, from television, and from their parents, like the rest of us were. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

== Mainpic ==

Good ''gawd'', can we find an official model sheet for the big blue guy yet? I'm getting really sick of staring at that postage stamp sized promo headshot of his, but I can't seem to dredge anything up in my searches for a better image.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:07, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know who uploaded it, but there's one sitting up top now. Also, this isn't his main pic, but does anyone else think that his Cybertronian robot form looks striking similar to his Earth one? I mean, all the other characters' bodies had signicant changes to them when they adopted Earth forms (or is he more along the lines of the G1 cartoon where their Cybertronian and Earth bodies were identical). Just wanna throw that out there.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 16:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::He has about the same amount of differences. He gained the plow-shoulders, the grill on his back, etc.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:40, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::What I'm getting at is that his pre-Earth body looked like it had the plow shoulders, not sure about the grill because I didn't get a good look at his back. The lights look the same, I think his entire body looks the same.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 16:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
::::His pre-earth body doesn't have the weird skull-face thing he has on his chest on earth, and the details on his forearms are different.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 17:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::You mean he doesn't have the wings on the Autobot emblem
::::::No, I mean he doesn't have the creepy yellow headlight/eyes--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 00:52, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

==Phobia==

What do you think we should call his phobia for organic life? I suggest [[wikipedia:Zoophobia|Zoophobia]], a fear of animals, since he sees humans as little more than animals. Organic-phobia may not be right since we haven't really seen how he acts around other types of organics, like plants. - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 00:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:I don't know. I was trying to use the language they use in the fiction, and I wasn't sure if organophobia was a word. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:34, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::"Organophobia" is perfectly valid, since both "organic" and "phobia" are from the Greek. It's also the most descriptive word, since "organics" is the word ''he'' uses. [[User:JW|JW]] 00:36, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Fair enough. Maybe we should even make an article on organophobia. Are there any other TF characters with it? - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 00:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Was Sinnertwin specifically afraid of small organics, or just anything small? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::[[Rippersnapper (G1)|Rippersnapper]] and [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] both displayed...a revulsion of organic life, at least. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 03:29, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

==Tick quotes==

I think we need to use more of em for the captions. Unfortunately I'm not that familiar with em so...[[User:GWolfv2]] 19.31 May 25th
:Hey, I kinda support the idea, too. [http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/The_Tick Wikiquote] has a whole bunch of them, so, I might see if we can do this.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 20:30, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

==Picture and Caption request==

: This article needs a picture were jetstorm/jetfifre drag Sentinel on there magnet grapple with his arms crossed, with the caption "welcome to jerk air!".--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 10:59, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

==Redirect question/suggestion==

Could we have jerk or Jerk (or both) redirect to Sentinel's page? I think it'd be funny at least. Or would that be considered an inappropriate use of humor? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 19:42, 17 April 2009 (EDT)
:No. ("Jerk" and "jerk" are the same thing. Articles don't start with lowercase letters.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:47, 17 April 2009 (EDT)
::Aaaaaand we've been trying to cut down on redirects that aren't likely search terms, including those just for yuks.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:52, 17 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Ok, fair enough. Just wanted to check to see what the policy was on that, since I didn't see it mentioned in the help section. Consider this case closed. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:26, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

== Protected ==

I was wondering why the page is protected. Is there something wrong with Sentinel? (Besides he's the biggest slaggin jerk ever)

==Why does he hate Optimus==
Honstely he acts like a retard to Prime

Talk:Starscream (Animated)

2012-05-06T20:49:56Z

GalvatronTerror: /* Continuity */

Not being very familiar with Gundam, I tried to find images of the fighter that [[User:66.114.66.77]] has added. What I found was [http://www.mahq.net/Mecha/gundam/0083/lineart/rx-78gp03s-corefighter2-sp.jpg this], which doesn't have swept-forward wings at all. What am I missing? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:11, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

How is he a fucking Su-47 Berkut? What does he look like? Where is his fucking vehicle mode photo?
:Again, the toy isn't out yet. We've seen some at Comic Con, but that one was painted up as Thundercracker, and was a hand-painted proto to my knowledge. We can't really put much up until there's more official stuff.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:55, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
:: No, it was painted as Starscream. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 01:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Starscream is dark blue now?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 02:07, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
::::He certainly is in the clips we've seen... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:55, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Weird.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 02:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::Starscream is not so blue in actual screen grabs from the animation here: http://derrickjwyatt.blogspot.com/2007/07/transformers-animated-at-comic-con-2007.html --[[User:Swindle|Swindle]] 03:12, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::::[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=13435 If you say so!] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Considering the quality of the screen grab on Swindle's link is better than on yours, I'd tend to agree with him more. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::Eyedropping that one ALSO gives you blue. Starscream is also blue in [[Eric_Siebenaler]]'s Animated art for the next issue of the Collector's Club magazine, as seen in a recent upload here. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Re: Starscream being blue now: Why not? He's already been black, dark grey, copper green, tan, and black and purple.
:::::::::::If you look at it, you can see that all the decepticons has that basic purple color on them, so they look more like a whole military-unit raither then a bunch of rapair-bots. -[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 16:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

His toy next year once it comes out or something will be mighty expensive. Hey I saw his jet mode and it looks like a Cybertronian Jet based off a Su-47 Berkut.([[User:Anti-Spammer|Anti-Spammer]] 20:15, 31 October 2007 (UTC))
:His toy is a Voyager-class figure. As such, you're looking at around the $20 range, just like all the other Voyagers. It'll still be less expensive than the Ultra/Leader/Supreme toys, if any.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 20:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Geez, that picture of him makes him look twice as conniving and backstabbing than he ever was in G1.

== I have an image of his toy ==

Here it is. I need help with the caption, though. Any ideas? [[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 14:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[[Image:Starscream_toy.jpg|right|thumb|200px|The not-so-Crimson Chin?]]
:Lotta watermarks on that. Got one without? [[User:JW|JW]] 14:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

And a watermark is.....? [[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 15:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
:Those words superimposed on the image. In any case, we cannot use this image on the wiki, as the toy pictured there was ''stolen''. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

::Stolen?!? I had no idea. So sorry. Can you fill me in on the details? [[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 15:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
:::That is a test shot of a toy made by the factories to test the toy for painting and safety, or are just pre-production versions. They were likely swiped as they are usually destroyed afterwards. Hasbro and TakaraTomy do not like these being leaked and distributed around because poor posing/incorrect transformation in these sorts of photos or incomplete colours/paint may impact negatively on the perception of the final retail toy. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Got it. Again, really sorry. [[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 15:37, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

== Quote? ==

How come the dramatic "Do not try to deceive a Decepticon" quote isn't used. That sounds really cool. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] 15:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:I personally think the "solemn face" quote better captures Starscream's personality.
:Also, the ''very first thing'' you did upon getting an account here was to change that quote. We prefer that new users make more substantive contributions before tweaking the frippery. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

::Hmm... I guess the "solemn face" ''is'' more Starscream-ish. However, I have also uploaded a screencap for [[Roll Out (online game)]] and fixed a grammar mistake on this talk page. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] 15:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::We appreciate your efforts, and we look forward to your future contributions.
:::However, on Talk pages, I'd strongly recommend against editing other people's comments. Fixing grammar mistakes in articles is wonderful, but you shouldn't edit other people's Talk page comments, unless there is some ''serious'', page-breaking problem in them. In this particular case, your edit was harmless, but I wouldn't do it again. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

And then Starscream was undead.

Thanks for the tip. ; ) [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] 15:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

== A reminder to editors: Spoilers Warnings Please! ==

Earlier, somebody put up spoilers for Mission Accomplished without any sort of header or warning. I've added the warning now. Just a reminder to editors to put warnings on new episodes. I'm pretty sure that the newest US episode is the rule, right? --[[User:Netbug009|Netbug009]] 05:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:That is correct. Spoiler tags for the newest US episode, and no spoilers in the intro paragraph whatsoever.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 05:37, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
:::My bad!

== Toy ==

Does anyone know if a starscream toy will be released in show accurate colors?

== Starscream's Cockpit ==

Anyone else think Starscream's cockpit looks vaguely like Spongebob's tie? --[[Special:Contributions/75.181.69.137|75.181.69.137]] 23:29, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Null rays ==
In the Toy Bio to be specific, he has sonic strikers. Where did it ever say nulls antways[[Special:Contributions/76.68.69.253|76.68.69.253]] 19:35, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
My friend has the toy it says his guns are Sonic Blast strikers or something like that, not Null-rays. I think we should take off animated on the null ray page and say he has sonic blast strikers (or something like that. It isn;t a null ray)!
:His [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/animated/default.cfm?page=Bio&character=starscream Hasbro website bio] says he has "Nullray Cannons." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Has this ever happene before? which one is accurate? Is there a protocol for this? When a user gets the toy? [[Special:Contributions/76.68.69.253|76.68.69.253]] 20:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:They've been referred to both on the Hasbro website and the cartoon itself as null rays. Stop freaking out.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:48, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::What episode was it reffered to as null rays? And could the sonic thing be noted in the toy section as an error or something? it is interesting. An thundercrackerish. [[User:Cycloneprime|Cycloneprime]] 20:50, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::It's not even an error. His Hasbro bio refers to ''both'' his nullrays and the fact that he "creates a sonic scream that make [sic] powerful sonic blasts of sound that can send enemies spinning through the atmosphere." This is a non-issue.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
OK, but it refers to the weapon as a sonic shock blaster and doesn't mention nullrays [[User:Cycloneprime|Cycloneprime]] 21:20, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:The sonic sreams it refers to aren;t guns, the Profile says Sonic Shock Blaster, and the hasbro sight says nullray cannons not null ray. Which Slagging episode has that line! Tell me! i'll stop arguing if I see that part.{{unsigned|Cycloneprime|20:18, 13 June 2008}}
::Dude, just let it go. There are things worth getting all Aspergers about. This isn't one of them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:42, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, But someone earlier said it was in a line in an episode, can anyone tell me what episode? My friend is going to post an image of the bio I think, so I will just ask for the episode untill then. On another note, he has flipout rist blasters when you push the sonic shock blaster forward (that is what it says)[[User:Cycloneprime|Cycloneprime]] 20:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::Also, even the sonic screams could be noted as a thundercracker homage. The bio seems to be inaccurate, as it says Prime can barely take screamer out, but this isn;t supported elsewhere. Different Continuity?{{unsigned|Cycloneprime|20:59, 13 June 2008}}
:::You are giving me ''such'' a headache.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:19, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I suggest you rewatch [[Transform and Roll Out!]] part 3. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Thank you Walky [[User:Cycloneprime|Cycloneprime]] 21:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Transform and Roll Out! is where Prime "can barely take Screamer out." I have no idea where it referenced his null rays. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I think screamer would of won without the plot device, but oh well. Until I find out what episode it is in, i'm not counting that evidence. Would an image of the bio help my case? is the hasbro bio considered more canon then the toy bio? "Oh well. More where they came from"--[[User:Cycloneprime|Cycloneprime]] 22:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:MAybe this means no thundercracker? and I think the Bio problem should be noted somewhere--[[User:Cycloneprime|Cycloneprime]] 23:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
::Just...stop. You're overthinking this.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:52, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Continuity ==

Shouldn't the Takara toys be moved to [[Starscream (Movie)/toys]]? Like [[Hot Rod (Henkei!)]] is seperate from [[Hot Shot (Armada)]]?
: There is absolutely no evidence that Animated takes place in the movie continuity. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:43, 18 August 2010 (EDT)
Actually it does in Japan (not be rude or any thing)

== Voice Simulatity ==

Why the Hell does he sound like Ice King from "Adventure Time"? {{[[Special:Contributions/184.56.27.61|184.56.27.61]] 01:23, 28 May 2011 (EDT)}}