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More than Meets the Eye, Part 1

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|next2=More than Meets the Eye, Part 2
|series3=''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (cartoon)|Transformers: Generation 2]]''
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|image=MTMtE Part1 Prime repair.jpg
|caption=
|title="More than Meets the Eye, Part 1"
|production code=4023
|airdate=[[September 17]], [[1984]]
|written by=[[George Arthur Bloom]]
|animation studio=[[Toei Animation|Toei]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
|packaged with=[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|Optimus Prime]]
}}
'''In search of energy, the Autobots leave Cybertron and are pursued by the Decepticons.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:MTMtE1 Wheeljack and Bumblebee collect energy.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|"That's not that impressive. I can transform too, y'know."]]
On [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], many [[MYA|millions of years ago]], the [[Autobot]]s are on the verge of extinction. Eons of war with the [[Decepticon]]s, their bitter enemies, have drained the planet's once plentiful resources. Autobots [[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] have managed to find a scant few [[Conductor|energy conductors]] and muse that what they've found won't last very long. Bumblebee loads the conductors into Wheeljack and they head back towards [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. However, as they reach the bridge to home base, they run into a Decepticon patrol. Wheeljack's attempt to drive through is cut short by enemy fire, and they're soon literally surrounded by a ring of fire, thanks to the Decepticons' flame throwers. The pair manage to escape the flames and ram their way through the Decepticons, two of whom give chase. The pursuing Decepticons manage to hit Bumblebee with their lasers, and the smaller Autobot is forced to drive aboard Wheeljack. Wheeljack manages to evade the two Decepticons by heading underground and arrives at Iacon. As they enter the fortress, a nearby sensor lamp reveals itself to be [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]], who dispatches [[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]] to do some spying. Also returning to Iacon is [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]], who reports to [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] that he was unable to find any energy in Cybertron's lower regions. Optimus confers with Jazz, [[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]] and [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] on the plan to leave Cybertron on a mission to search for energy elsewhere. Having heard all they need, Laserbeak and Soundwave depart.

[[File:MTMtE1 Ark and Nemesis over Earth.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Starting a long, long tradition of Transformer ships crashing on Earth.]]
Inside [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Cybertron)|their base]], [[Decepticon leader]] [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] plots to intercept the Autobots, and leaves his [[second-in-command|first lieutenant]] [[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] in charge of Cybertron. [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] asserts the war would have been won if the Decepticons were under his leadership.

The Autobots blast off aboard [[Ark (G1)|their spaceship]], and the Decepticons give chase in their [[Nemesis (G1)|Decepticon cruiser]]. The Autobots immediately run into trouble when two large asteroids collide in front of them, resulting in a storm of rock that pelts both ships, until [[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] uses the ship's weapons to clear a path. The Autobots next detect the pursuing ship, but are unable to outrun the Decepticon cruiser, which locks onto them with [[tractor beam]]s. The Autobot ship's lasers are out of power, so the Autobots are forced to instead engage the Decepticons in combat once they board. With no one at the respective helms, both ships drift into [[Earth]]'s gravity well, and despite Prime's best efforts to right the Autobot ship, both vessels spin out of control and crash. The Autobot ship embeds itself in the side of a volcano.

Four million years pass. It is the year 1984, and volcanic activity stirs the half-buried ship, awakening the computer systems aboard. [[Teletraan I]] sends out a [[Sky Spy]] satellite to reconnoiter this new world, and scans examples of terrestrial machinery in order to reformat the Transformers into new [[Alternate mode|alt modes]]. The Decepticon [[Skywarp (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Skywarp]] happens to be the one who is in the path of the repair beam, and thus is awakened first. He revives Megatron, and the other Decepticons follow. Leaving the Autobot ship, Megatron observes that much time has passed since the crash but declares their mission to find energy is unchanged. An impudent Starscream leaves a parting shot, blasting the rocks over the ship in an attempt to bury it further. However, he unwittingly knocks Optimus Prime into the repair beam and the Autobot leader is revived.

[[File:Cliffgun.JPG|thumb|upright=1.1|left|"You see the size of that gun he fired at us? It was bigger than him!"]]
The Decepticons locate a clearing and Megatron puts Starscream in charge of converting the area for the construction of a [[Victory (G1)|new star cruiser]]. Soundwave, Starscream and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] head for a nearby power station to find the needed raw materials. Meanwhile, the Autobots have all been repaired. Optimus Prime announces that they need to find out what the Decepticons are doing, and dispatches [[Hound (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hound]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] to scout the area. Starscream and his team arrive at the power station, where Starscream again grouses about wanting to lead the Decepticons, and has Rumble use his pile drivers to level the plant. Some time later, Hound and Cliffjumper find the Decepticons in the middle of work on their ship. Though Cliffjumper's keen to wade in, Hound listens in as the Decepticons plan to take [[energon cube]]s back to Cybertron. Cliffjumper brashly takes a shot at Megatron, but misses, and Soundwave unleashes Laserbeak in pursuit. Though the pair split up, Laserbeak detaches a laser cannon so he can pursue both Autobots. While Cliffjumper manages to deal with the cannon, Laserbeak blasts Hound, sending him off a cliff.

[[File:MTMtE Part1 OilRig battle.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Do yourself a favor, don't smoke at a Cybertronian waterpark.]]
Autobot medic [[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]] and [[Hauler]] come to fetch Hound. Cliffjumper apologizes for giving away their position as Hound is winched to safety. Meanwhile, Decepticons [[Thundercracker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Thundercracker]] and [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] spot an Earth vehicle approaching. The two human workers find the demolished power station, but while they're puzzling over what happened to it, [[Ravage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ravage]] attacks and frightens them away.

Hound is repaired, and reports what he overheard: that the Decepticons are on the hunt for energy. Prime has Jazz assemble a battle group to go after them and the Autobots roll out. Elsewhere Laserbeak returns to the Decepticon construction site with the news that he's found a new source of energy. The Decepticons attack an off-shore [[oil rig]], where [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] and his son [[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike]] work. The humans attempt to resist, but it's futile and they end up jumping or falling overboard. The Decepticons begin filling energon cubes from the [[oil]] pipeline, but as Megatron is telling Starscream that they will need a lot more energy, the Autobots arrive to spoil their party. A battle erupts on the drilling platform until the Decepticons simply grab what they can and take off. Megatron blasts the rig's supports, tipping it into the ocean and taking the Autobots with it. Another shot ignites the oil, turning the surface of the sea into an inferno. Realizing the humans are in danger, Optimus Prime tries to save Spike and Sparkplug while the Decepticons retreat with their energon plunder.

'''[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2|To be continued...]]'''
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]] (1)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] (2)
*[[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]] (12)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (13)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (14)
*[[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] (15)
*[[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]] (18)
*[[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] (19)
*[[Sideswipe (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sideswipe]] (20)
*[[Teletraan I]] (21)
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]] (24)
*[[Hound (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hound]] (25)
*[[Hauler]] (26)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sunstreaker]] (31)
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] (32)
*[[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] (33)
*[[Mirage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Mirage]] (34)
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (35)
*[[Gears (G1)|Gears]] (36)
*[[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] (37)
|c2=
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (3)
*[[Thundercracker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Thundercracker]] (4)
*[[Skywarp (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Skywarp]] (5)
*[[Sunstorm (G1)|Yellow Seeker]] (6)
*[[Hotlink (G1)|Purple Seeker]] (7)
*[[Bitstream (G1)|Light blue Seeker]] (8)
*[[Nacelle (G1)|Dark blue Seeker]] (9)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (10)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]] (11)
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (16)
*[[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] (17)
*[[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] (22)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (23)
*[[Ravage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ravage]] (27)
|c3=
*[[Joe (MTMTE)|Joe]] and his coworker (28)
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike Witwicky]] (29)
*[[Sparkplug Witwicky]] (30)
}}

==Quotes==
[[File:MTMTE1-JazzProwlPrimeTrailbreaker.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
"Prime told me there'd be days like this." 
"And you didn't believe him?" 
"I do now!"
:—'''Bumblebee''' and '''Wheeljack''' under fire.

"When do we start the search mission?" 
"Soon as you're ready to launch."
:—'''Prowl''' is told to hurry up by '''Optimus Prime'''.

"Fear not, Megatron. Cybertron shall remain as you leave it."
:—'''Shockwave''', more accurate than he realizes.

"Leakin' lubricant!"
:—'''Ironhide'''

"What about materials?" 
"Use your imagination!"
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Megatron'''

"Here's something to keep you warm."
:—'''Megatron''' as he ignites the oil spill.

==Season 5==
{{note|When this episode was rebroadcast in [[The Transformers (cartoon)#Season 5|the fifth season]] of ''The Transformers'', it contained new bookending segments with original story material.}}

[[File:PrimeTakesTommyIntoSpace.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"There's no ''air'' in space!" "But there's an Air in Space Museum!"]]

The young human [[Tommy Kennedy]], a resident of [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], needs help from [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]. He runs out into the middle of a barren wasteland, calling Prime's name. Prime arrives via rocket-boots and, after lifting Tommy up to his head, asks him what's the trouble. As it turns out, Tommy has a "special project" for school that's due soon and only Prime can help him. Optimus inquires what the project is about, but Tommy dodges the question, simply saying that he needs to know how the Autobots arrived on Earth. Prime concedes, "Okay Tommy, I've handled enough emergencies to know that ''some things'' just can't wait." Prime then launches into the tale of how the Autobots and the Decepticons left Cybertron, crash-landed on Earth and began their war for energy anew...

Prime continues into the next part of his story, about their first encounter with humans and whatnot, but Tommy stops him. Tommy says he's out of time and he ''really'' has to get back to Autobot City. Prime offers to give him the ride on the condition that next time they hang out, he tells him the juicy details of this "special project". Prime then blasts off into space with Tommy clinging to his shoulder (and somehow not dying horribly).

{{--}}

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
* As the first pilot episode, this episode establishes several iconic aspects of the cartoon and the entire [[Transformers brand]]. The planet Cybertron and its city Iacon both appear in many other media and continuities. The crash of the Ark and the four-million-year slumber of its inhabitants likewise recur in several other versions of the Generation 1 story.
* The orange Seeker from the "welcoming committee", visible for all of about two seconds, was [[Retcon|retroactively established]] to be the neo-G1 character [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. Other characters in the same shot were later named [[Hotlink (G1)|Hotlink]] (the purple Seeker with the flamethrower), [[Bitstream (G1)|Bitstream]] (the blue Seeker behind him holding his weapon like a rifle), and [[Nacelle (G1)|Nacelle]] (the dark blue Seeker barely visible between Sunstorm and Hotlink).
[[File:Cybertronlaserbeak.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
* We get a look at Cybertronian alternate modes for Bumblebee, Wheeljack, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Jazz, and Soundwave. Meanwhile, Laserbeak is given a Cybertronian ''robot'' mode. Soundwave's toy can totally be configured into that lamp-post mode.
*Trailbreaker's presence alongside Jazz and Prowl on Cybertron is just about the ''only'' indication of his "defense strategist" [[function]] in the cartoon.
*Three episodes from now, we will see that Shockwave was true to his word, and Cybertron has not changed one iota in four million years.
*The Decepticon vessel is last seen spiraling out of control, unpiloted, toward Earth. It will be rediscovered in the Season 2 episode "[[Microbots]]". The unnamed ship would finally be given a title almost 15 years later, when it was referred to as the ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'' in the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'']] episode "[[Nemesis Part 1]]".
*The events of the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon take place during the 4 million years in which the Autobots and Decepticons lie dormant in the wreckage of the Ark... a time frame covered by about 5 seconds of footage in this episode.
[[File:Sky Spy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*As the satellite-like probe (later dubbed a [[Sky Spy]]) leaves the Ark, we see a city skyline in the distance. While the cartoon's animation could never make up its mind about what was around the crashed ship (oceanside cliffs? desert? forests and rivers?), one might take this city to be [[Central City (Earth)|Central City]], later established to have jurisdiction over the land where the Autobot ship rests.
[[File:MTME1 Reflector camera.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Yep, pretty clearly an SLR.]]
[[File:Ratchetg1cartoon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Repair bay optional.]]
*Gadgets and powers:
**Wheeljack deploys a pair of tiny spinning blades from his front bumper, which lets him... drive through fire?
**Laserbeak spies with a pair of cylindrical doodads that come out of the side of his head.
**Rumble demonstrates his earth-quake-making power, which consists of banging the ground with a couple of big pile drivers that replace his arms. This will become one of the cartoon's most frequently-seen special powers, to the point that it eventually would carry over to the Marvel comics as well. (This power also seems to exclude Rumble himself from its effects, as the ground under him never cracks open.)
**Hound pops out a little wrist radar dish that lets him hear what the Decepticons are saying from some distance away.
**Soundwave can display graphics — the space cruiser, in this case — on his chest door.
**Cliffjumper somehow stores on his person a gun that's as big as he is. We don't want to know how he does this. Although it does look like it's collapsible.
**He also has a little cannon that pops out of his vehicle mode's backside. In the original script, this was his [[glass gas]] gun, but in the completed episode, it's merely a laser. His line "it's a gas!" hints at this earlier version, but is rendered out-of-place by the new visuals.
**Laserbeak's cannons are shown to be able to disconnect from him, fly on their own and target Autobots independently. Although an ability actively described in his ''[[The Transformers Universe|Universe]]'' profile, this would be the only time Laserbeak would employ his weapons this way.
**Ratchet is shown splitting into his robot form and his repair bay; however, the repair bay is never seen again.
**Reflector, being a super-advanced space robot, can take a photograph and instantly spit out a paper print of the resulting image. Instant photographs?! It must be THE FUTURE!
**Starscream "activates the <s>noal</s> null ray", which freezes the device it's aimed at.
[[File:Hauler01-sm.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Frank Lloyd ''Wrong''.]]
*A [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]]-like crane named [[Hauler]] is seen with Cliffjumper, recovering Hound; he's never seen again, however. Fans have speculated that this was to be an earlier release of Grapple's toy, aborted for reasons unknown. This is further backed up as previously in the episode, a wrecked Grapple like Transformer can be seen in the Ark before Skywarp is activated.
[[File:Hauler's First Appearance.jpeg|thumb|upright=1.1|A Netflix bingefest on the Ark has crazy consequences.]]
*[[Energon cube]]s make their first appearance here. They have to be compressed before they convert the fuel they have been filled with into energon, at which point they glow a sort of yellowish-white iridescent-y rainbow-y sort of color. The "compressing a stack" aspect of the cubes was quickly done away with after the pilot mini-series, but the rainbow-glow would stick around for a little while before being phased out in favor of a pink-purple coloration that became the standard representation of energon cubes down through ''Transformers'' history.
*Despite being known for the command "Autobots, transform!", Optimus Prime doesn't actually issue it until two episodes later, in [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3|part 3]]. Megatron beats him to it with the less-common counterpart "Decepticons, transform!" command to his troops on the oil-rig. They, however, do not actually transform - just Megatron himself.

===Real-world references===
*As with the corresponding [[The Transformers (issue)|first issue of the Marvel comic]], the here-unnamed [[Mount St. Hilary|volcano]] is certainly inspired by the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens.
*''The Transformers'' made heavy use of the sound effects library that sprung out of the movie ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]''. Fans have a tendency to make tiresome shocked exclamations that Laserbeak sounds like a [[TIE Fighter]]; it is therefore instructive to catalog these sound effects, which are used ''far'' more extensively than just a couple of TIE engine roars. About half a dozen sound effects tend to appear in nearly every episode, and at least a dozen total are known to have been used on ''The Transformers''. In this episode:
**The sound of the [[Death Star]] firing to destroy Alderaan, and Alderaan's subsequent explosion, is used as Skywarp and Thundercracker strafe Bumblebee and Wheeljack, and again as they abandon their pursuit.
**The sound of the Seeker training sphere aboard the ''[[Millennium Falcon]]'', along with [[Luke Skywalker|Luke]]'s [[lightsaber]] humming and igniting, is used as Soundwave begins making energon cubes.
*We also get the lesser-used ''[[Star Trek]]'' sliding door sound effect as Soundwave sends Laserbeak after Hound and Cliffjumper.
** There are also hints of the Sonic Screwdriver sound effect from ''[[Doctor Who]]'', most notably Wheeljack opening and closing his rear door.

===Animation and technical errors===
*In the very first shot, stars are shown passing in front of Cybertron.
*Soundwave's mouthplate doesn't move during his "Autobots are set to launch" line.
[[File:Sunstorm Cartoon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Then again, Thundercracker has ''two'' wings.]]
*The Decepticon "welcoming committee" is a bit confusing:
**The initial shot shows [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Skywarp]], and [[Thundercracker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Thundercracker]]. None of these characters were in this scene in the original script, which just credited the characters as "Decepticons"; Starscream, in particular, is shown to be at Decepticon headquarters in a minute, and the voice that comes out of his mouth ("Autobots! Stop them!") is intended for a generic character and is provided by [[Dan Gilvezan]] instead of [[Chris Latta]].
**All three are absent from the second shot, which shows four new characters: a purple one with a flamethrower, a golden-yellow one, a rich blue one, and a dark navy one.
**The third shot, as Wheeljack bears down on the group, shows a total of five Seekers, all very small figures with block coloring, one purple, one black, and the other three grey. In the very next shot, Wheeljack is shown barrelling through Starscream, Skywarp, and Thundercracker again.
**The final shot of the group sees Thundercracker and Skywarp transforming to pursue them. Though originally scripted only to be generic Decepticons, the pair subsequently have lines in what will become recognizable as their normal voices ("They've gone underground, we'll never catch 'em now!"/"We'd better report back to Megatron," provided by [[John Stephenson]] and [[Frank Welker]] respectively), indicating the script was reworked with the genuine intention of placing the two characters in the scene.
**Less explicable, though, is the voice heard declaring "After them!" just before Skywarp and Thundercracker take off. No speaker is obvious (nobody's mouth is seen moving on-screen) and the line was not in the original teleplay for the episode. Presumably, it was meant to be another generic Decepticon from the group ordering the two into action, but as the line is provided by Frank Welker, the possibility exists that it's supposed to be Skywarp speaking. If so, though, the voice is way off from his normal one, sounding almost exactly like Megatron.
*Bumblebee steps out of Wheeljack and immediately fires a shot in the completely opposite direction from their attackers. Was he testing his gun??
*Bumblebee is repeatedly shown to be a hovercar... yet somehow he's got wheels and an axle when the Seekers manage to hit him.
*Bumblebee is repeatedly shown to be ''wider'' than Wheeljack in [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]], yet he has no trouble driving right into Wheeljack's cargo compartment. He ''keeps'' driving in until he's completely out of sight, even though we can see at least half of the compartment.
*As Wheeljack opens his cargo compartment to let Bumblebee in, the energy conductors clip through his vehicle mode.
*Coloring errors:
**As Megatron gives Shockwave his orders, Starscream is missing his canopy lines, and Soundwave's eject button is blue, while his backpack is white.[[File:MTMTEProwlstreak.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|TakaraTomy later used this shot as a justification for giving ''Masterpiece'' Prowl his shoulder cannons.]]
**Bluestreak is colored like Prowl as the Autobots stumble around in the wake of the asteroid collision; Trailbreaker, meanwhile, has one white and one gray hand.
**Starscream has a red "collar" around his neck as he prepares the tractor beam.
**When the Autobots and Decepticons fight aboard the ''Ark'', there are two Starscreams - one fighting Prowl, the other fighting Ironhide.
**As Starscream fires on the Autobot ship, the top segment of his canopy is red instead of gray in some frames.
**As the gathered Decepticons gaze at the desert from atop the volcano, Skywarp's arm cannon is colored teal.
**Part of Megatron's fusion cannon is white as he says "we'll set up here".
**Soundwave's eject button is blue instead of white as Megatron orders him to plan the new space cruiser.
**After landing at the power plant, Soundwave's eject button is blue, instead of... y'know what? Let's just say the colorists screwed up this little detail ''all the freaking time'', and leave it at that.
**As Starscream talks about his plans with Soundwave and Rumble standing behind him, the tip of Soundwave's shoulder cannon is colored entirely black.
**When Optimus Prime assigns Hound his mission, the establishing shot has Cliffjumper with Bumblebee's yellow colors.
**In the long shot of the Decepticons building their base, Soundwave appears in Sideswipe's colors.
**Cliffjumper's mirror housings are white instead of red as he delivers his "moonbeam" line.
**Ratchet's Autobot symbol is gray before he jumps off the cliff.
**Prime's running light housings are white instead of red as he orders Jazz to organize a battle unit.
**In the pan across the battle unit, Sideswipe's helm is red instead of black, and the top of Trailbreaker's chest is white instead of black.
**The center segment of Megatron's fusion cannon is white as the wrenches & etc. bounce off of him.
**Soundwave's cheekguards are blue instead of white as he starts making energon cubes.
*The retracting segments of Iacon's dome appear to come out of solid, unbroken metal. The interior shot of the bridge also shows the segments retracting incorrectly. Since the ship is upright at a 90-degree angle, the retracting segments should go from camera-right to camera-left, down the length of the ship.
*Sideswipe's missing his shoulder launcher as he mans an Ark console.
[[File:ArkCartoon1.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|If it's supposed to be transparent, then it probably shouldn't be blocking out the scenery behind it.]]
*The Ark's exhaust comes from ''behind'' the thruster ports.
*The Decepticon insignia on the Nemesis is missing its "eyes" as the Ark blasts off.
*Presumably, an impact is supposed to be knocking Jazz out of the pilot's seat; what the animation actually shows, however, is Prime saying "Jazz!", to which Jazz responds by spontaneously flying out of his seat.
*Immediately after a shot of Optimus Prime rallying his troops to prepare to repulse Decepticon boarders ("Prepare for battle!"), the same animation is re-used, but this time with Megatron's voice urging his troops to "Attack! Attack!" When the episode was re-done for the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (cartoon)|Generation 2]]'' series, this scene was amended by placing a shot of Megatron sitting on this throne from earlier in the episode over the image, shouting the command. (In the same shot, Prowl's eye is missing.)
*A shot of Soundwave being kicked out of frame by Ironhide is immediately followed by Soundwave sparring with Ratchet.
*After Ratchet is thrown into the console, Optimus Prime and Megatron enter the frame, struggling with each other. Megatron is missing his fusion cannon in this shot, but it reappears when the angle changes to show them grappling as Prime asks for a status report.
*Ratchet is shown being thrown by Soundwave, but after Optimus Prime asks for a status report, Ratchet is seen fighting with Thundercracker on the other side of the room.
*When Soundwave tosses Ratchet into a console aboard the Ark, the Autobot Medic is sporting a Decepticon symbol in the center of his chest windshield, most likely the result of the animator carrying over Soundwave's design.
*As the above shot pans across the bridge to the right, we see Soundwave has teleported from one side of the bridge to the other, slumped against a console.
*In the pan shot on the Ark when the Transformers find out they're going to crash, there are TWO Soundwaves and TWO Starscreams.
*As the Ark rocks and sends the combatants tumbling, the left arm of the second Soundwave turns into an extended smear of gray paint for a couple of frames.
*The voice that reports about g-forces is Prowl's, but he's struggling with Starscream and doesn't seem to have time to read a console or make a report or anything. Although it's hard to tell due to the ship shaking, Jazz's mouth seems to be moving, and he ''does'' seem to be looking at machinery.
*Quite a few generic robots are mixed in among the identifiable inert Transformers in the crashed ship, including [[Hauler]] and a yellow version of Jazz.
*The land around the volcano changes frequently between shots. Sometimes it's rocky desert; other times it's got forests and a river, sometimes both at once. This trend would continue throughout the whole series.
*When Megatron orders Skywarp to revive the other Decepticons, his voice is missing the metallic echo usually applied to it.
*Megatron is missing his barrel as he speaks to his newly revived troops. In a close-up, he has a "five o'clock shadow", as the central segment of his face is a darker shade than the rest of it.
[[File:Mtmte1 prepare the energon cubes.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*Starscream has no transformation sound as he lands at the power plant.
*Hound's voice carries a soundproof-room echo as he comments on how different Earth is.
*Megatron's mouth doesn't move when he asks who is firing after Cliffjumper attempts to assassinate him.
*Hound says that he got shot in the drive train, but Laserbeak shot him topside. Did the shot go straight through him??
*Reflector's three component robots are standing shoulder-to-shoulder as they turn to look at the truck, but are standing in a line in the next shot.
*After Thundercracker informs Soundwave about the approaching vehicle, there's a [[scene transition]]. The final frame of the scene transition is faded into an image of Sparkplug and Wheeljack working on Optimus Prime from "Divide and Conquer".
*In that scene, when Jazz calls out the Autobots' names, Prowl and Cliffjumper both respond to Hound. Mirage is shown, but when his and Ironhide's names are called, they transform off-screen. Also, Ratchet is already transformed. Finally, near the end, Optimus Prime's headlights are red instead of white, but in the next scene this is corrected.
*Rumble isn't a big guy, but he should at ''least'' be a few feet taller than a human. He's shown the same height as Sparkplug.
*Starscream is missing his wing insignia as Megatron returns to his robot form.
*Ironhide and Starscream are shown sparring with poles, while Prowl and Thundercracker have a shootout from cover. In the very next shot, Ironhide is taking on Skywarp and Thundercracker, while Starscream is now busy with Huffer and Gears, and Prowl is grappling with a Reflector. In the shot after that, Prowl is suddenly free from Reflector and charging toward Skywarp.
*A red robot of indeterminate character model is shown retreating with the Decepticons. It looks a bit like an upside-down Sideswipe.
*When Rumble knocks Spike into the water, his father yells "Pike!" instead of "Spike". Perhaps he was meant to be warning his son about carnivorous fish, but ''of course'' pike live in fresh water, not salt.
*Frank Welker is not listed among the voice actors in the credits sequence. This error would be repeated in the other two parts of the miniseries as well.

===Continuity errors===
[[File:MTMtE Part1 Cybertron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*Later episodes will go to some length to establish that Cybertron is outside of our galaxy. There's even some implication that it's not inside ''any'' galaxy, but that unlikely notion is put to the lie by the very first shots of this episode, which show its surface illuminated by an unseen sun, and the space around it filled with stars.
*Whether for reasons of cost (unlikely considering how much effort was expended on this episode's artwork) or to avoid confusing the kiddies, hardly any of the Transformers were designed to have Cybertronian [[robot mode]]s (Laserbeak is the sole exception). Thus we get the strange phenomena of, for example, Jazz having a Porsche 911 bumper on his chest, four million years before Porsches were invented. This also leads to some strange transformations, with guys like Bumblebee and Wheeljack not having a single part from their vehicle forms visible in their robot modes.
*Soundwave is in robot mode outside of Iacon, not transforming back to lamppost mode until Jazz is practically on top of him. How could Jazz have failed to notice the big blue Decepticon right in front of him?
[[File:Shockwave Hands.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|''My honey my baby Don't put Shockwave upon no shelf She said don't gimme no lines And keep your hands... hand... whatever... to yourself!'']]
*During the scene in [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Cybertron)|Decepticon Headquarters]], Shockwave is consistently drawn with two hands. This may not be an error ''per se'', as he shows up a couple of other times with two hands, and plenty of characters can retract their hands and replace them with various gadgets and weapons. Not to mention that the 4 million year gap between this episode and his next appearance (when his left hand is replaced with a laser cannon) leaves plenty of time for him to have lost and subsequently replaced the hand offscreen. However, this still goes against his toy design and his established character model.
*Two asteroids in deep space just show up out of nowhere and collide? Right by the passing ship? The cosmic improbability beggars the imagination.
*Oddly enough, nobody opens fire during the scuffle when the Decepticons board the Ark... not even Megatron.
*The Transformers' interplanetary cruise is ''incredibly'' short. At no point do they engage any kind of faster-than-light drive, yet somehow they go from Cybertron to Earth in what seems to be a matter of minutes. The only possible gap that might account for this is the scene cut between the Decepticon launch and the asteroid collision.
*The animation would have us believe that the Autobot spacecraft has just been sticking out of the side of this active volcano for ages, without anybody noticing. The intended gist might have been that the eruption uncovered it, but the animation doesn't show it.
*Cliffjumper somehow stores on his person a cannon that's as big as he is.
*Okay, maybe it's not an actual error. But considering how many ordinary Transformers are shown to have enhanced visual abilities (Hot Rod, Rumble, Arcee, etc.) it seems a tad ridiculous that Thundercracker needs to use Reflector's camera mode to zoom in a little bit on the approaching truck. It's ''insanely'' ridiculous that Reflector produces Polaroid prints. He's not even that kind of camera! (More to the point, he should just be able to see what's visible through his own viewfinder.)
*While he is getting repaired by Ratchet, Hound refers to an Energon cube as "some kind of cube", implying that the Autobots don't know what Energon cubes are. The inference that energon cubes are a Decepticon invention holds true for almost the entirety of the pre-movie cartoon, during which time they are never used by the Autobots (something that is even made a plot point in "[[Traitor (episode)|Traitor]]"). We say "almost" because of a contradictory flashback in "[[War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn]]" that shows what appear to be energon cubes being used by Autobots nine million years in the past. By the time of the movie, the Autobots are shown to have begun using the cubes, and continue to do so throughout the third season. It's possible that Hound is a younger Autobot and was not created until after Autobots stopped using Energon cubes. Optimus would know what they are, since he was there back then in "War Dawn".
*How do the Autobots know where the Decepticons are planning to attack? They organize their battle unit before the Decepticons even learn about the [[oil rig|oil platform]]!
*During Jazz's roll-call of the Autobots, he neglects to call out Cliffjumper's name. The little red guy transforms anyway.
*The large cast frequently gave the animators trouble in remembering which secondary characters should or should not be present, especially concerning the Autobots. Thus, we frequently must catalog appearing/disappearing Autobots:
**Jazz's battle group consists of Prowl, Cliffjumper, Trailbreaker, Wheeljack, Mirage, Sunstreaker, Sideswipe, and Ironhide. Even before they've left headquarters, the problems start, as Ironhide disappears and Ratchet takes his place. Ratchet is still with the group when they arrive.
**Bluestreak joins the group as they fly toward the oil rig.
**Huffer and Brawn are with them as they land on the platform.
**Gears is visible in a wide shot of the battle.
*In what ''universe'' is it legal for a fourteen-year-old American kid to be working on an oil rig, even ''with'' his father?
[[File:MTMtE1 spare seeker.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*Until the oil platform attack, the episode has consistently portrayed the Decepticon forces as Megatron, Soundwave, 3 tapes, 3 jets, and 3 Reflectors. Things start to fall apart here, as a dark blue jet is shown diving alongside Thundercracker. It gets ''much'' worse in the following episodes.
*''The Transformers'' had a tendency to frequently exaggerate the capabilities of humans to survive being dropped, punched, swatted, hit, etc. As a main protagonist, Spike Witwicky was especially susceptible to this treatment; thus we catalog the adventures of ''Superhuman Spike!'':
**Spike punches Rumble in the back without breaking or even seeming to hurt his fist.
**Spike survives being bashed aside by Rumble's metal fist without even bruising a rib.
*When Starscream fires his [[null-ray]], ice appears on the machinery that the ray hits. However, a null ray only stops the flow of electricity; it doesn't cause freezing. (Megatron prompts him with the strange command to "activate the null ray", as if it's some external piece of equipment.)
*Flying Autobots:
**In this and the following two episodes, the Autobots are all shown flying just as easily as the Decepticons. Once the show went into full production, this ability mostly disappeared, with occasional exceptions due to special abilities (Wheeljack, Sideswipe, the Dinobots), and some [[Roll for It|scripting]], [[Attack of the Autobots (episode)|animation]] and [[The Master Builders (episode)|sound]] [[Fire on the Mountain (episode)|effect]] screw-ups. The change was, in part, to help distinguish the two forces (and perhaps because it doesn't make sense for the Autobots to drive places if they can just fly there instead).

===Trivia===
*Scenes deleted from the original script to this episode include Ratchet working to repair Bumblebee's damage after he and Wheeljack return to Iacon; Rumble destroying a railroad trestle for more construction materials in addition to the power plant; Skywarp and Thundercracker grumbling about being stuck with grunt work as the Decepticons construct their temporary headquarters; Skywarp finding a frisbee and tossing it back and forth to Starscream before Megatron blasts it to bits; and a scene of Brawn, Huffer and Windcharger trying to fight the oil rig fire, only for the rig to collapse out from under them, setting up the opening scene of the next episode in which Huffer is caught in the wreckage. Other differences include Soundwave being the first Decepticon to be restored by Teletraan I, rather than Skywarp, and Teletraan I bouncing its beams off of human satellites, rather than using a [[Sky Spy]].
*Shockwave's appearance hints that Hasbro was already planning for expansion of the toyline. His toy was not among the initial 28 characters advertised by the 1984 Transformers catalog, yet there he is, making a short appearance that obviously sets up the possibility of future appearances. His toy would be one of the very first 1985 toys to see release, and his character would return in the very first post-pilot episode.
[[File:Cartoon Cybertron Marvel Iacon case 1.jpg|upright=1.95|thumb]]
*The episode ends with a preview of "Part 2". While other multi-part Transformers episodes generally refer to the episode by its title ("Next time, on ''The Transformers'': 'The Ultimate Doom'"), this preview uses the series title, ''The Transformers'', as "More Than Meets the Eye" is a retroactive name for the three-part episode, which began as a mini-series before becoming a regular program.
*Many later episodes would mine this one for recycled footage, particularly the line up of transforming Autobots near the end. Transformation sequences (with and without new backgrounds) from this episode appear in "[[Heavy Metal War]]", "[[Blaster Blues]]", and others. Optimus Prime's transformation sequence from this episode is used in ''dozens'' of episodes.
*Imagery of Cybertron from this episode was used to depict Iacon in the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel story]] "[[And There Shall Come...a Leader!]]". Several buildings are clearly taken from the cartoon, and the most precious comparison has to be the tunnel entrance used by Wheeljack and Bumblebee to get energy conductors to the cartoon's dome-shaped Autobot headquarters, which is exactly the same as the one [[Fusion]] and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] used to get shatter bombs to the [[Great Dome]]. The only difference is that the next piece of road for Fusion and Bluestreak is the same road Wheeljack and Bumblebee drove over before entering the tunnel.
[[File:G2DoubleTargetmasters.jpg|upright=1.95|thumb|The new RCA Colortrak, with Commercial-in-Commercial feature!]]
*The mid-80s [[Family Home Entertainment]] VHS release of "More Than Meets the Eye" was granted the {{w|Film Advisory Board}} Award of Excellence, proudly displayed on the video box cover above. However, this particular "award" does not reflect the ''quality'' of any work submitted, but rather that the work is "family-friendly". Cheeky, that.
*The three parter was released on video in the United Kingdom in 1986 under the title "Arrival from Cybertron".
*Footage from the [[commercial]] featuring the Autobot [[Targetmaster (technology)|Double Targetmaster]] trio was spliced into the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (cartoon)|Generation 2]]'' version of this episode by way of the [[Cybernet Space Cube]]. Outside of this, they never actually appeared in the cartoon.
*Footage from this episode was used to represent a historical video in "[[Transform and Roll Out]]", the opening movie for ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]''.
*In 2016, "Transformers At The Moon" released onto YouTube<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwOQhJ_UA5E</ref> a collection of audio clips from the original Sunbow Productions "unslugged" cassette tapes and included many scenes deleted from the final show. Among the audio is:
** Additional dialogue between Bumblebee and Wheeljack as they approach the Seekers on the bridge to Iacon
** Thundercracker and Sunstorm call out as Wheeljack bears down on them
** A scene in the Autobot base showing Bumblebee being repaired by Ratchet, and Optimus Prime mentioning Jazz is out looking for more energy conductors
** Additional dialogue between Optimus Prime, Jazz, and Prowl regarding the energy situation
** Prowl ordering Gears to give him a countdown
** Megatron telling Starscream his destiny is to be a servant
** Megatron giving the order to blast off
** Trailbreaker mentioning Teletraan-1 can find some sources of energy, and the rest will have to be found via optical sensors; Optimus tells him to use whatever means necessary
** Ironhide and Mirage bemoaning the fact they're on the ''Ark'', away from Cybertron, though for different reasons
** The Decepticons launching a cover protocol to hide their approach on the Autobots; this scene explains why Megatron didn't take Starscream's advice to destroy the ''Ark'': Megatron wanted to follow the Autobots to wherever they could potentially find energy...which doesn't explain why Megatron had the Decepticons board the ''Ark'' a bit later
** Additional dialogue between Optimus and Prowl just before the asteroids collide
** Starscream stating he's glad Rumble is on their side after the latter destroys the substation
** Thundercracker and Skywarp questioning why they're doing grunt work, only to be chewed out by Megatron; Megatron also chews out Starscream for not working
** Starscream rather bluntly refusing to look through Reflector's viewfinder
** Additional dialogue between Cliffjumper and Hound
** Hound noting that Earth is beautiful, and wanting to warn the indigenous people of the Decepticons, a notion that Jazz shoots down due to believing that the people wouldn't believe them, a notion Optimus agrees with
** The oil platform workers looking in fear at the approaching Decepticons; Spike asks "Who are they?", which makes his inflection when he says "WHAT are they?" make more sense
** Huffer moaning that the fire started by Megatron is too far gone, only for Brawn and Windcharger to turn on something that douses it; Brawn tells Windcharger to release more of...whatever it is, but that's all it will give, and Brawn tells Huffer to jump as the rig begins breaking up; Huffer gets stuck, and Brawn (in a voice that sounds more like Spike, probably because Corey Burton hadn't figured out a voice to use for when Brawn is screaming) comes to his aid
** Also on this tape is what [[Wally Burr]] terms "Body English", which consists of various Autobots and Decepticons grunting and groaning during the fight on the oil platform; "Body English" was recorded for Optimus Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Wheeljack, Reflector, all of the Decepticon troops, and the workers
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===Foreign localization===
'''German'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Im Weltraum verschollen'''" (''Generation 2'', "Lost in Space")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[April 30]], [[1994]]

'''Italian'''
:*''Title (dub 1):'' "'''Fuga da Cybertron'''" ("Escape from Cybertron")
:*''Title (dub 2):'' "'''Molto più di quel che appare - I'''" ("More than Meets the Eye - I")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?
::*The 2008 dub renamed Hauler "Grapple" in order to retcon them as the same character.
::*In the 2008 dub, when Rumble is ejected for the first time, Soundwave [[FIRRIB|calls him Frenzy]].

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Chikyū e no Michi'''" (地球への道, "The Road to Earth")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[July 6]], [[1985]]
::*When [[Hotlink (G1)|the Seeker]] fires the ring of flame around [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]] from his flame-thrower, he shouts out the name of his "special attack" in traditional anime-style. It was called the "Fire Attack", by the way.
::*'''Cut:''' Immediately after [[Skywarp (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Skywarp]] says, "Megatron, my leader, we are alive again", a few seconds of the close-up of him and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] staring at each other and the fade away into the next scene is cut. Megatron's line, "Quickly, we must revive the other Decepticons", followed by him carrying and dropping [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]], was also cut. The sequence resumes right after Megatron sets Reflector down next to [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]].
::*"[[Hauler]]" is not referred to by name in this version and most Japanese fans just presumed him to have been [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]]. Most Japanese fans, [[Hirofumi Ichikawa|but not all]].

'''Mandarin'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Dìyī Tiān'''" (第一天, "The First Day")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Portuguese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Mais do Que Os Olhos Veem Parte 1'''" (Brazil, "More than Meets the Eye part 1")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Russian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Ne vsjo tak prosto (Chast' 1)'''" (Не всё так просто (Часть 1), "Not All Is So Simple (Part 1)")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Serbian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Više nego što se vidi prvi deo'''" (''Generation 2'', Више него што се види први део, "More than Meets the Eye Part 1"), "'''Sile zla prvi deo'''" (''Generation 2'', Силе зла први део, "Forces of Evil Part 1")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

===Toys inspired by this episode===
[[File:G1toy-SunstormeHobby.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|right|WHAT HAVE WE DONE]]
*'''''[[Collector's Edition]]'' 89 [[Sunstorm (G1)#Collector's Edition|Sunstorm]] ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]], 2003/2009)'''
:An [[e-HOBBY]] [[exclusive]] redeco of the original ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Starscream]] toy, representing the yellow [[generic]] [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] seen in this episode. In part thanks to being given additional prominence in [[Dreamwave Productions]]' comic books, the character would subsequently spawn a plethora of additional toys, including ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' figures by both Hasbro and Takara. While most "Sunstorm" figures are based on the standard Seeker body-type that transforms into an Earth jet, both the ''[[Titanium Series]]'' "Cybertron Heroes" [[Sunstorm (G1)#Titanium Series|Sunstorm]] figure and the ''[[Legends Class (2005)|Legends]] of [[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Sunstorm (Universe)#Cybertron|Sunstorm]] figure (the latter of which represents the [[Unicron Trilogy]] version of Sunstorm) transform into Cybertronian fighter jets that are heavily inspired by the Seekers' "tetrajet" alternate mode seen in this episode. The original Sunstorm figure was later re-released in 2009, once again exclusive to e-HOBBY.

[[File:MP Prowl.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|right|The shoulder cannons absolutely needed to be justified with an episode screencap… which actually shows an animation error.]]
*'''''[[Collector's Edition]]'' 88 [[Hauler#Collector's Edition|RoadHauler]] (Takara, 2003)'''
:An e-HOBBY exclusive redeco of the original ''Generation 1'' [[Grapple (G1)#Generation 1|Grapple]] toy in a [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]-inspired green color scheme, intended to represent the Grapple lookalike seen in this episode, with the choice for his colors taking inspiration from "[[The Secret of Omega Supreme (episode)|The Secret of Omega Supreme]]" and "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]".

*'''''Masterpiece'' MP-13 [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Soundwave]] (TakaraTomy, 2013)'''
:One of the accessories included with the figure is a display grid that attaches over his chest door: The last page of the instruction booklet features a pair of cutouts you can place underneath the grid to simulate Soundwave projecting them on his chest, one of them being the space cruiser blueprints from this episode.

*'''''Masterpiece'' MP-17 [[Prowl (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Prowl]] (TakaraTomy, 2013)'''
:Although they were technically based on the original ''Generation 1'' toy, TakaraTomy specifically used a screencap from this episode to "justify" the inclusion of shoulder cannons with their ''Masterpiece'' toy of Prowl… a screencap that actually depicts an ''animation error'' with ''[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]]'' colored like Prowl (see above), hence the shoulder cannons.

*'''''Masterpiece'' MP-29 [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Destron Laserwave]] (TakaraTomy, 2016)'''
:Among the other accessories, this figure includes a normal left hand that replaces his laser gun to recreate Shockwave's two-handed appearance in this episode, plus an alternate right hand to recreate the salute he gives to Megatron.

*'''''[[War for Cybertron: Siege (toyline)|War for Cybertron: Siege]]'' (2019)'''
:Representing Cybertronian forms rather than Earth modes, many of the figures from ''Siege'' are either directly based upon or incorporate features or design elements referencing this episode. Voyager [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]] transforms into a tetrajet based on thie episode, [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Soundwave]] has an "easter egg" third mode of "Cybertronian Sensor Lamp", and although ''Siege'' [[Laserbeak (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Laserbeak]] still resembles his more bird-like form, his head design is a direct reference to his cartoon Cybertronian form.

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==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 1985 — ''The Transformers'' — Volume 1: "More than Meets the Eye" ([[Family Home Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1986 — ''The Transformers'' — Arrival from Cybertron ([[Video Gems|A.M.T. Video Gems]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1988 — ''The Transformers'' — Arrival from Cybertron ([[Video Gems|V.I.P. Video Gems]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1991 — ''The Transformers'' — Arrival from Cybertron ([[Video Gems|Little Gems Junior Video Club]]) 
[[File:Flag of Canada.png|20px|Canada]] 1999 — ''The Transformers: Generation 2'' — More than Meets the Eye ([[Malofilm|Seville Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2001 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Exclusively from Blockbuster ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])
;{{w|LaserDisc}}
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1994 — ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' — Convoy Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1998 — ''The Transformers'' — Autobot Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers'' — DVD Box 1 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2002 — ''Transformers: Generation 2'' ([[Maverick Entertainment|Sony Wonder]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2002 — ''Transformers'' — Original Series: Volume Two (Sony Wonder) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2002 — ''Transformers'' — Complete Original Series: Deluxe Edition (Sony Wonder) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''The Original Transformers'' — First Season Collector's Edition ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Volume One (Rhino Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2003 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 1: Series 1 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 1 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2006 — The Best of ''The Transformers'' (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Episodes (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2007 — ''Classic Transformers'' — Series One: Part One (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2008 — ''Transformers'' — Volume 01: Stagione Uno Parte Prima ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season One (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete First Season: 25th Anniversary Edition ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — More than Meets the Eye (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2011 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Original Series (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2014 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete First Season: 30th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2014 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Animated Series (Metrodome)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/season-1/synopses/4023.html Episode Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]

==Footnotes==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]
[[Category:Generation 2 episodes]]
[[Category:MSTF]]
[[Category:Pack-in material]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]

Talk:Wheelie (G1)

2015-11-22T23:41:30Z

Gretnablue: /* Can we please tone down on the rhyming? */

I applaud the profile. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's amazing how many sentences can rhyme without not making sense. [[User:American Girl|American Girl]] 19:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
: Well, on second thought, I applaud the concept of the bio, but think the content is more appropriate for the animated continuity section. It seems to chronicle the circumstances of the movie, and not his personality. (Remember, in Dreamwave, he was never on Quintessa that we saw.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:Point conceded. The new bio's better than mine anyway. The whole entry is much improved. So many horrible rhymes...bwahahahahaha. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

We totally need to complete this entry. This deserves to be a Featured Article. sadly, I'm pretty awful about fiction. I OWN most of it, but don't REMEMBER it very well. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Having just rhymed all through the section I just added, I have no idea how Wheelie keeps it up 24/7. Exhausting! --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 09:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:Rhyming isn't really all that hard if you have the vocabulary of a bard. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed the manga summary to rhyme and keep the gag going. Though I think I write rhymes more like Dr. Seuss than Wheelie...--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

wow, this profile almost makes me wish I didn't use my Wheelie toy as cannon fodder in the late 80's -- great job with the rhymes whoever did this should work for a greeting card company

I'm fine with the rhyming in the article, but the rhythm really needs work. I'd change it, but I'm afraid of being accused of ripping apart large sections of the article for no good reason (see Walky's comment below).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not yet to be Featured==
Sipher, the reason I unfeatured it is because the inconsistency of the rhyme's meter is really embarrassing. If you read the history, you'll see my note. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:Then maybe you should have removed the "Featured Article" Category, which is why I put the tag on it (and is still there as of your last edit). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:: Indeed I should! Meanwhile, history is your friend. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

==Commercial voice==
Walky, Frank Welker never VOICED Scrappy-Doo! He did, however, voice Peewit. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Welker ''did'' voice Zzcooby & Freddy in new show! [[User:Wazzpinator|Wazzpinator]] 18:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

==Italian names==
I don't have the brainpower to add these in rhyme tonight. If somebody could, Wheelie was called Saetta in the dub of TFTM, and... apparently ''Scooter'' in everything else. (At least, it doesn't SEEM to be a joke...) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I apologize. - Chris McFeely, not signed in

== Continuity rhymes ==

"Continuity" doesn't rhyme with "see". [It rhymes with "bitty", to pick an irrelevant-but-accurate example] - 21:39, 16 August 2009 (EDT)
:It also rhymes with "enginuity"! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 20:03, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
::Or even "ingenuity"!--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:27, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Ooh! Here's one that's on-topic, "ambiguity"!! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 07:14, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

== But seriously, folks... ==

...am I going to be hugely unpopular if I state my belief that the article has, at this point, gone way overboard? Rhymes in the section headers, line-breaks all over the place, rhymes being used to describe continuities where he ''didn't rhyme''... I think that this page has long since crossed the line between "fun" and "taking it way too far". Frankly, I would almost be in favour of scaling it back to just having a rhyming opening and captions. A ''lot'' of the fiction section is, to my eyes, suffering because of the demands of the rhyme scheme. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:11, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:All my hard work...unappreciated...:( --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:47, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::But to be serious, I wrote nearly all the rhymes in the fiction portion of the article and created the linebreaks so folks could see the scheme. The rhymes in the fiction headers and continuity notes were some no-username's doing and I've never been very fond of them.
::Still, if many people agree that the humor interferes with the facts, then we can put it to a vote as to whether we get rid of the rhymes in the headers, the rhymes all together or if we just leave it. It may be ''my'' joke, but I'm not going to have a heart attack if others want to change it so it doesn't interfere with the facts (unlike ''some'' members of this Wiki). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Aw, it's not that it's not appreciated, I see what you were doing, but it's... it's like Bonecrusher hate jokes. We started out with them and they were funny when the article was small but then when it was filled in they got really tiresome but people kept dogpiling 'em on anyway, until we had to say "No more". That's sort of what I'm feeling here. The idea worked when the article was small, but when it's full (which it ''isn't'' yet!) I think it gets in the way more than it is fun. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:56, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I need to concur, although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure. At the very least, his summary. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::''I need to concur/although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure.''
:::::Why, there's one right there! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:31, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
But this is the most awesome page on the wiki. It's one of the things people think of when they talk about how awesome our wiki is. It's like getting rid of the teacup ride at Disneyland. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:Or the testicles in ROTF. The ''Awesome'' defense only goes so far, especially in Transformers.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::That's a terrible analogy. When people talk about our wiki, they mention our Wheelie article that is all rhymes, and this is a good thing that they think epitomizes what we stand for and why we're better than other wikis. When people talk about Devastator's balls, it's derisively. I don't understand your comparison. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:46, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::It's simple - Devastator's testicle's are 'awesome.' Bay thinks so. A lot of the moviegoing public though so. Most 'serious' fans thought otherwise. But an awful lot of people laughed and laughed at them, probably more than will ever read this wiki. Just because one group of people thinks something is awesome doesn't keep it from getting in the way of (imparting information / telling a strong story.) The fandom can be be a bit of an insulated community - an echo chamber, if you will. Pointing to anecdotal evidence one way or the other shouldn't be our benchmark. It's much more useful to go back to core principles.
::::But mostly I was seizing on your use of the word ''awesome'' which has been forever commingled with Bay for me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:25, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Well, I think the charm of us writing articles in the personality of the characters extends to more than just this one. [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]], etc., for instance. It can actually be weirdly useful sometimes in conveying information about characters without having to spell it out. But, if it's getting in the way of having an actual informative article in any instance, then it ''does'' need toning down. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

::I agree some of the rhyming should go. The headers, external link, notes and voice actor info in rhyme seems redundant to me, if not annoying. I can somewhat dig the argument not to put rhyme in sections of fiction in which he didn't rhyme, although I'd hate to see it go. But what I think would greatly help this article is a better layout. Currently, the article is all rather statically and confusingly "text-humongous white space-pic". I'd like to see it being connected a tad more by switching the text-pic order every second fiction/rhyme-paragraph (as well as having some of the paragraphs expanded). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:48, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::I think all of the ''paragraphs'' should remain in rhyme. Headers, bullet-point "list" items... no. That's overkill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 12:51, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, mark me down as a compromise vote. Ditch the headers/notes, etc rhymes but keep the fiction section poetry. Partly because I spent a lot of time writing most of it, but also because I don't think the fiction poetry really interferes with the knowledge. The headers and stuff is annoying, though. --'''DrSpengler (at work, can't log in)'''
::::I'll agree with that. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 14:55, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I'd quite happily dump the whole joke, which was never that funny. And it does seriously impede the article. '''Vote NO on this from me''' [[User:Eire]] 20.02 Oct 12 09 (UTC)

==Japanese fiction: Rhyme or Not Rhyme?==

Recently, I've been told to stop writing the Japanese fiction sections in rhyme because Wheelie didn't rhyme in Japan, and that all rhymes should be reverted to standard. I wrote the Japanes fiction sections in rhyme to keep up the theme and flow of the article, and because it was fun, yeah. But if everyone else thinks the Japanese fiction sections should be de-rhymed, then so be it. Let's take a vote. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 12:26, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''AGAINST''' rhyme in the Japanese section. It simply isn't appropriate for that incarnation of the character.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 12:39, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it''' because I like the general theme of the page, it's fun, and because Wheelie only never rhymed because the Japanese language sucks at rhyming (same reason why their poems and music lyrics don't rhyme). The sentence structure just doesn't work in its favor. Just because the Japanese couldn't do it doesn't mean we should follow suit. English rocks at rhyming. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:55, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Here's me voting '''for it''', because if we're going to do a gag, we ought to be consistent with it throughout the article, or it looks half-assed. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:33, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keep it consistent or keep it out. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:38, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Just so there's no confusion, I am obviously '''for it'''. I think the rhymes make the article fun and I believe that having random non-rhyming chunks would break up the flow of the page. And doing it just because Wheelie didn't rhyme in certain continuities isn't worth killing the fun. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:40, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keeps the page consistent and there's already someone willing to do it. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:00, 8 February 2010 (EST)
: I vote '''AGAINST''' all the rhyme. Seriously, you ever sit down and try to exract information from this page? Imagine you're someone who knows nothing of Wheelie. After reading this I guarantee you'll know even less. [[User: Eire]] 18.59 8 Feb 2010
:: Hey, were you the [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_5&diff=414380&oldid=413827 guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason], and so then he [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/593224.html?thread=14980936#t14980936 quit this wiki] because he was treated like shit? You don't get a vote. Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin' river. (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:I vote '''against''' the rhyme, and note that when I first read this page, the break ''away'' from rhyming was hilarious... particularly because the text of the section was written in short, flat deliberately ''boring'' sentences to maximize the contrast. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::Yeah. I don't vote for the lack of rhyming in the Headmasters section for technicality reasons, but because it would be hilarious. Especially if it were written like a petulant little punk. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''AGAINST''' btw. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it''' as I think it'd disrupt the flow, if it was only randomly rhyming.'''--TFDatabase'''
::''Whatever'' policy we adopt, it's not going to be random. If it rhymes, it's for a reason. If it doesn't rhyme (especially in specific sections), it's also for a reason.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 15:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::But it LOOKS random (at least before you know why it was done). Also, it seems weird that TFDatabase gets jumped on for using the same wording Spengs did earlier.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:10, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::::Just a fluke of timing. Nothing more. It's not like I'm constantly on the Wiki monitoring each and every comment that comes on.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 16:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' for the reasons already listed by so many others. Now, if you could find a way to do that section in haiku instead... [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:35, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::That idea is morbidly appealing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:50, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:57, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it'''. As Detour mentioned, Japanese sentence structures don't allow much room for rhyming and the rhyming is unique to Wheelie (like how SG Nightbeat's page is done in Edward G. Robinson's gangster character fashion).
:(Haiku? Good grief...) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:27, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::...so I have an evil sense of humor. You won't hold it against me, will you? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::Not really, but I can imagine the chore of parsing everything down to 5-7-5. Heck, [[Wikipedia:Waka (poetry)#Tanka|tanka]] might be a better option given its 5-7-5-7-7. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' the rhyming, for the reasons already given. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:41, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::'''As do I''', we have it noted that he didn't rhyme in other dubs anyway. [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 17:49, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''against''' rhyming in the Headmasters section. Having that section being assholey makes it even funnier, and Headmasters Wheelie is they guy who wouldn't go along with it simply to be a jerk. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:14, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' rhyming, as otherwise we should probably stick a disclaimer at the start of the Headmasters section because you know others will come along and make it rhyme again later anyway.--[[User:MCRG Again|MCRG Again]] 18:56, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''Against''' rhyming, because the Headmasters section should read like the dialog of the show: boring and stating the obvious, repeatedly. (I'd be for haiku form, though) -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 19:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''FOR''' rhyming because it'd flow badly otherwise. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)

: I would totally support rewriting ''Headmasters'' Wheelie in sarcastic Goth format, if it could be pulled off well. Otherwise.... eh. Having the rhyming is overkill. Not having it is inconsistent. Pick your poison! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:16, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''FOR''' rhyming. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 21:23, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I declare voting over. I'd only be convinced to ditch Spengler's large amounts of work over a technicality is if voting were overwhelmingly in favor of it. Like, near-unanimous. And that certainly isn't the case, so the rhyming stays. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:54, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:Yaayyy! I'm appreciated! I've got tomorrow off work so I'll knock out a few more episodes. If it's any consolation to those who voted against the rhymes, in order to write these fiction summaries I have to actually ''watch'' each episode. A most-terrible fate. So this is a very hollow victory for Spengler. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 22:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Okay, you know what? I seriously retract my earlier moan about the rhyming. Spengler is utterly rocking this, getting across all the relevant info in a way I never thought was possible. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm cookin' MCs like a pound of bacon, yo. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 11:02, 15 February 2010 (EST)

==Featured Article material?==

So, I finally finished the thing. His every fiction section is completed, pics are plentiful and, so far as I know, his toy page is up to snuff (toys aren't my forte', I admit). Do you think this article is worthy of Featured Article status? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:04, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
:Considering Walky already slapped the Featured template on it, apparently it is. ;)
:(It's certainly the most impressive of our self-demonstrating articles, that's for damn sure.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:13, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
::Aw jeez, somehow I completely missed that. My bad! Disregard this! (and thanks, Walky!) --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:18, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

== If we ever get the chance... ==

I'd love to see a picture of Wheelie being attacked by Decepticons on this article with the caption "Oh men of dark and dismal fate, forego your cruel employ! Have pity on my lonely state: I am an orphan boy!" (This is a quote from Gilbert & Sullivan's ''Pirates of Penzance'', for the operatically ignorant.) I realize that there is no good picture for this caption as of now and that this will likely not happen, but I thought I'd just throw that out there. Also, kudos to those brave men and women who endeavored to write this article. You would make your English teachers proud.
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 00:33, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

== Wow ==

I can't even begin to imagine the effort that went into this. Truly epic! - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 10:29, 12 January 2012 (EST)

== Generations toy caption ideas ==

I pity the fool who's no Meister retool!

I pity the fool who ain't a retool!

Reformatted to look like Meister? I think this body is much nicer!

I may look like Jazz, Stepper, Longarm (not Prime)--but do any of them ever bother to rhyme?

I used to be a Minicar; a Jazz retool is better by far!

A Jazz retool can never fail (as long as you ignore the [[scale]])!

[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 02:35, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

== What rhymes with 'orange'? ==

1) This entry is amazing, but 2) all this and no joke about the notorious difficulty of rhyming the word 'orange'?--[[User:Dubbilex|Dubbilex]] 03:29, 30 December 2012 (EST)
:"Door-hinge". I learned that from the Muppets. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:06, 1 March 2013 (EST)
::How about a rhyme for "purple"? "Urkel"? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:09, 1 March 2013 (EST)
:Bloom County recommends "whore binge". [[User:Phasma Felis|Phasma Felis]] 16:49, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

== Can we please tone down on the rhyming? ==

I get that a lot of you have spent a to of time and effort making this entire article rhyme, but can you guys please re-edit parts of this article to tone it down and remove the rhyming in some areas, specifically in the notes and toy section?

A little bit of rhyming would be fine, but to be blunt, the way the article is written is not pleasant to look at and the rhyming just makes the article feel like a chore to read. It gets tiring to read very quickly and I would rather have the information be just available rather then hidden under annoying rhymes.

If not, can we at least have a non-rhyming version of this available via suite, similar to how some of the character articles are split into multiple pages like Main, G1 Cartoon, Toys and Merchandise etc? That way, you can keep the rhyming versions for those who want and a non-rhyming for those who don't want to read this version?

Again, sorry for coming across as a buzz-kill, but I just find the article not fun to read and I don't want to decrypt rhymes just to read the trivia.[[User:Gretnablue|Gretnablue]] ([[User talk:Gretnablue|talk]]) 17:41, 22 November 2015 (EST)

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I applaud the profile. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's amazing how many sentences can rhyme without not making sense. [[User:American Girl|American Girl]] 19:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
: Well, on second thought, I applaud the concept of the bio, but think the content is more appropriate for the animated continuity section. It seems to chronicle the circumstances of the movie, and not his personality. (Remember, in Dreamwave, he was never on Quintessa that we saw.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:Point conceded. The new bio's better than mine anyway. The whole entry is much improved. So many horrible rhymes...bwahahahahaha. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

We totally need to complete this entry. This deserves to be a Featured Article. sadly, I'm pretty awful about fiction. I OWN most of it, but don't REMEMBER it very well. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Having just rhymed all through the section I just added, I have no idea how Wheelie keeps it up 24/7. Exhausting! --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 09:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:Rhyming isn't really all that hard if you have the vocabulary of a bard. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed the manga summary to rhyme and keep the gag going. Though I think I write rhymes more like Dr. Seuss than Wheelie...--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

wow, this profile almost makes me wish I didn't use my Wheelie toy as cannon fodder in the late 80's -- great job with the rhymes whoever did this should work for a greeting card company

I'm fine with the rhyming in the article, but the rhythm really needs work. I'd change it, but I'm afraid of being accused of ripping apart large sections of the article for no good reason (see Walky's comment below).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not yet to be Featured==
Sipher, the reason I unfeatured it is because the inconsistency of the rhyme's meter is really embarrassing. If you read the history, you'll see my note. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:Then maybe you should have removed the "Featured Article" Category, which is why I put the tag on it (and is still there as of your last edit). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:: Indeed I should! Meanwhile, history is your friend. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

==Commercial voice==
Walky, Frank Welker never VOICED Scrappy-Doo! He did, however, voice Peewit. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Welker ''did'' voice Zzcooby & Freddy in new show! [[User:Wazzpinator|Wazzpinator]] 18:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

==Italian names==
I don't have the brainpower to add these in rhyme tonight. If somebody could, Wheelie was called Saetta in the dub of TFTM, and... apparently ''Scooter'' in everything else. (At least, it doesn't SEEM to be a joke...) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I apologize. - Chris McFeely, not signed in

== Continuity rhymes ==

"Continuity" doesn't rhyme with "see". [It rhymes with "bitty", to pick an irrelevant-but-accurate example] - 21:39, 16 August 2009 (EDT)
:It also rhymes with "enginuity"! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 20:03, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
::Or even "ingenuity"!--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:27, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Ooh! Here's one that's on-topic, "ambiguity"!! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 07:14, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

== But seriously, folks... ==

...am I going to be hugely unpopular if I state my belief that the article has, at this point, gone way overboard? Rhymes in the section headers, line-breaks all over the place, rhymes being used to describe continuities where he ''didn't rhyme''... I think that this page has long since crossed the line between "fun" and "taking it way too far". Frankly, I would almost be in favour of scaling it back to just having a rhyming opening and captions. A ''lot'' of the fiction section is, to my eyes, suffering because of the demands of the rhyme scheme. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:11, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:All my hard work...unappreciated...:( --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:47, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::But to be serious, I wrote nearly all the rhymes in the fiction portion of the article and created the linebreaks so folks could see the scheme. The rhymes in the fiction headers and continuity notes were some no-username's doing and I've never been very fond of them.
::Still, if many people agree that the humor interferes with the facts, then we can put it to a vote as to whether we get rid of the rhymes in the headers, the rhymes all together or if we just leave it. It may be ''my'' joke, but I'm not going to have a heart attack if others want to change it so it doesn't interfere with the facts (unlike ''some'' members of this Wiki). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Aw, it's not that it's not appreciated, I see what you were doing, but it's... it's like Bonecrusher hate jokes. We started out with them and they were funny when the article was small but then when it was filled in they got really tiresome but people kept dogpiling 'em on anyway, until we had to say "No more". That's sort of what I'm feeling here. The idea worked when the article was small, but when it's full (which it ''isn't'' yet!) I think it gets in the way more than it is fun. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:56, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I need to concur, although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure. At the very least, his summary. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::''I need to concur/although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure.''
:::::Why, there's one right there! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:31, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
But this is the most awesome page on the wiki. It's one of the things people think of when they talk about how awesome our wiki is. It's like getting rid of the teacup ride at Disneyland. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:Or the testicles in ROTF. The ''Awesome'' defense only goes so far, especially in Transformers.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::That's a terrible analogy. When people talk about our wiki, they mention our Wheelie article that is all rhymes, and this is a good thing that they think epitomizes what we stand for and why we're better than other wikis. When people talk about Devastator's balls, it's derisively. I don't understand your comparison. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:46, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::It's simple - Devastator's testicle's are 'awesome.' Bay thinks so. A lot of the moviegoing public though so. Most 'serious' fans thought otherwise. But an awful lot of people laughed and laughed at them, probably more than will ever read this wiki. Just because one group of people thinks something is awesome doesn't keep it from getting in the way of (imparting information / telling a strong story.) The fandom can be be a bit of an insulated community - an echo chamber, if you will. Pointing to anecdotal evidence one way or the other shouldn't be our benchmark. It's much more useful to go back to core principles.
::::But mostly I was seizing on your use of the word ''awesome'' which has been forever commingled with Bay for me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:25, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Well, I think the charm of us writing articles in the personality of the characters extends to more than just this one. [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]], etc., for instance. It can actually be weirdly useful sometimes in conveying information about characters without having to spell it out. But, if it's getting in the way of having an actual informative article in any instance, then it ''does'' need toning down. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

::I agree some of the rhyming should go. The headers, external link, notes and voice actor info in rhyme seems redundant to me, if not annoying. I can somewhat dig the argument not to put rhyme in sections of fiction in which he didn't rhyme, although I'd hate to see it go. But what I think would greatly help this article is a better layout. Currently, the article is all rather statically and confusingly "text-humongous white space-pic". I'd like to see it being connected a tad more by switching the text-pic order every second fiction/rhyme-paragraph (as well as having some of the paragraphs expanded). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:48, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::I think all of the ''paragraphs'' should remain in rhyme. Headers, bullet-point "list" items... no. That's overkill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 12:51, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, mark me down as a compromise vote. Ditch the headers/notes, etc rhymes but keep the fiction section poetry. Partly because I spent a lot of time writing most of it, but also because I don't think the fiction poetry really interferes with the knowledge. The headers and stuff is annoying, though. --'''DrSpengler (at work, can't log in)'''
::::I'll agree with that. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 14:55, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I'd quite happily dump the whole joke, which was never that funny. And it does seriously impede the article. '''Vote NO on this from me''' [[User:Eire]] 20.02 Oct 12 09 (UTC)

==Japanese fiction: Rhyme or Not Rhyme?==

Recently, I've been told to stop writing the Japanese fiction sections in rhyme because Wheelie didn't rhyme in Japan, and that all rhymes should be reverted to standard. I wrote the Japanes fiction sections in rhyme to keep up the theme and flow of the article, and because it was fun, yeah. But if everyone else thinks the Japanese fiction sections should be de-rhymed, then so be it. Let's take a vote. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 12:26, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''AGAINST''' rhyme in the Japanese section. It simply isn't appropriate for that incarnation of the character.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 12:39, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it''' because I like the general theme of the page, it's fun, and because Wheelie only never rhymed because the Japanese language sucks at rhyming (same reason why their poems and music lyrics don't rhyme). The sentence structure just doesn't work in its favor. Just because the Japanese couldn't do it doesn't mean we should follow suit. English rocks at rhyming. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:55, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Here's me voting '''for it''', because if we're going to do a gag, we ought to be consistent with it throughout the article, or it looks half-assed. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:33, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keep it consistent or keep it out. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:38, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Just so there's no confusion, I am obviously '''for it'''. I think the rhymes make the article fun and I believe that having random non-rhyming chunks would break up the flow of the page. And doing it just because Wheelie didn't rhyme in certain continuities isn't worth killing the fun. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:40, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keeps the page consistent and there's already someone willing to do it. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:00, 8 February 2010 (EST)
: I vote '''AGAINST''' all the rhyme. Seriously, you ever sit down and try to exract information from this page? Imagine you're someone who knows nothing of Wheelie. After reading this I guarantee you'll know even less. [[User: Eire]] 18.59 8 Feb 2010
:: Hey, were you the [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_5&diff=414380&oldid=413827 guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason], and so then he [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/593224.html?thread=14980936#t14980936 quit this wiki] because he was treated like shit? You don't get a vote. Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin' river. (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:I vote '''against''' the rhyme, and note that when I first read this page, the break ''away'' from rhyming was hilarious... particularly because the text of the section was written in short, flat deliberately ''boring'' sentences to maximize the contrast. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::Yeah. I don't vote for the lack of rhyming in the Headmasters section for technicality reasons, but because it would be hilarious. Especially if it were written like a petulant little punk. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''AGAINST''' btw. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it''' as I think it'd disrupt the flow, if it was only randomly rhyming.'''--TFDatabase'''
::''Whatever'' policy we adopt, it's not going to be random. If it rhymes, it's for a reason. If it doesn't rhyme (especially in specific sections), it's also for a reason.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 15:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::But it LOOKS random (at least before you know why it was done). Also, it seems weird that TFDatabase gets jumped on for using the same wording Spengs did earlier.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:10, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::::Just a fluke of timing. Nothing more. It's not like I'm constantly on the Wiki monitoring each and every comment that comes on.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 16:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' for the reasons already listed by so many others. Now, if you could find a way to do that section in haiku instead... [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:35, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::That idea is morbidly appealing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:50, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:57, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it'''. As Detour mentioned, Japanese sentence structures don't allow much room for rhyming and the rhyming is unique to Wheelie (like how SG Nightbeat's page is done in Edward G. Robinson's gangster character fashion).
:(Haiku? Good grief...) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:27, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::...so I have an evil sense of humor. You won't hold it against me, will you? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::Not really, but I can imagine the chore of parsing everything down to 5-7-5. Heck, [[Wikipedia:Waka (poetry)#Tanka|tanka]] might be a better option given its 5-7-5-7-7. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' the rhyming, for the reasons already given. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:41, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::'''As do I''', we have it noted that he didn't rhyme in other dubs anyway. [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 17:49, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''against''' rhyming in the Headmasters section. Having that section being assholey makes it even funnier, and Headmasters Wheelie is they guy who wouldn't go along with it simply to be a jerk. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:14, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' rhyming, as otherwise we should probably stick a disclaimer at the start of the Headmasters section because you know others will come along and make it rhyme again later anyway.--[[User:MCRG Again|MCRG Again]] 18:56, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''Against''' rhyming, because the Headmasters section should read like the dialog of the show: boring and stating the obvious, repeatedly. (I'd be for haiku form, though) -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 19:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''FOR''' rhyming because it'd flow badly otherwise. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)

: I would totally support rewriting ''Headmasters'' Wheelie in sarcastic Goth format, if it could be pulled off well. Otherwise.... eh. Having the rhyming is overkill. Not having it is inconsistent. Pick your poison! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:16, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''FOR''' rhyming. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 21:23, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I declare voting over. I'd only be convinced to ditch Spengler's large amounts of work over a technicality is if voting were overwhelmingly in favor of it. Like, near-unanimous. And that certainly isn't the case, so the rhyming stays. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:54, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:Yaayyy! I'm appreciated! I've got tomorrow off work so I'll knock out a few more episodes. If it's any consolation to those who voted against the rhymes, in order to write these fiction summaries I have to actually ''watch'' each episode. A most-terrible fate. So this is a very hollow victory for Spengler. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 22:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Okay, you know what? I seriously retract my earlier moan about the rhyming. Spengler is utterly rocking this, getting across all the relevant info in a way I never thought was possible. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm cookin' MCs like a pound of bacon, yo. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 11:02, 15 February 2010 (EST)

==Featured Article material?==

So, I finally finished the thing. His every fiction section is completed, pics are plentiful and, so far as I know, his toy page is up to snuff (toys aren't my forte', I admit). Do you think this article is worthy of Featured Article status? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:04, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
:Considering Walky already slapped the Featured template on it, apparently it is. ;)
:(It's certainly the most impressive of our self-demonstrating articles, that's for damn sure.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:13, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
::Aw jeez, somehow I completely missed that. My bad! Disregard this! (and thanks, Walky!) --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:18, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

== If we ever get the chance... ==

I'd love to see a picture of Wheelie being attacked by Decepticons on this article with the caption "Oh men of dark and dismal fate, forego your cruel employ! Have pity on my lonely state: I am an orphan boy!" (This is a quote from Gilbert & Sullivan's ''Pirates of Penzance'', for the operatically ignorant.) I realize that there is no good picture for this caption as of now and that this will likely not happen, but I thought I'd just throw that out there. Also, kudos to those brave men and women who endeavored to write this article. You would make your English teachers proud.
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 00:33, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

== Wow ==

I can't even begin to imagine the effort that went into this. Truly epic! - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 10:29, 12 January 2012 (EST)

== Generations toy caption ideas ==

I pity the fool who's no Meister retool!

I pity the fool who ain't a retool!

Reformatted to look like Meister? I think this body is much nicer!

I may look like Jazz, Stepper, Longarm (not Prime)--but do any of them ever bother to rhyme?

I used to be a Minicar; a Jazz retool is better by far!

A Jazz retool can never fail (as long as you ignore the [[scale]])!

[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 02:35, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

== What rhymes with 'orange'? ==

1) This entry is amazing, but 2) all this and no joke about the notorious difficulty of rhyming the word 'orange'?--[[User:Dubbilex|Dubbilex]] 03:29, 30 December 2012 (EST)
:"Door-hinge". I learned that from the Muppets. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:06, 1 March 2013 (EST)
::How about a rhyme for "purple"? "Urkel"? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:09, 1 March 2013 (EST)
:Bloom County recommends "whore binge". [[User:Phasma Felis|Phasma Felis]] 16:49, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

== Can we please tone down on the rhyming? ==

I get that a lot of you have spent a to of time and effort making this entire article rhyme, but can you guys please re-edit parts of this article to tone it down and remove the rhyming in some areas, specifically in the notes and toy section? A little bit of rhyming would be fine, but to be blunt, the way the article is written is not pleasant to read and the rhyming just makes the article feel like a chore to read. It gets tiring to read very quickly and I would rather have the information be just available rather then hidden under annoying rhymes. If not, can we at least have a non-rhyming page for this, similar to how some of the character articles are split into multiple pages like Main, G1 Cartoon, Toys and Merchandise etc? That way, you can keep the rhyming versions for those who want and a non-rhyming for those who don't want to read this version?[[User:Gretnablue|Gretnablue]] ([[User talk:Gretnablue|talk]]) 17:41, 22 November 2015 (EST)

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I applaud the profile. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's amazing how many sentences can rhyme without not making sense. [[User:American Girl|American Girl]] 19:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
: Well, on second thought, I applaud the concept of the bio, but think the content is more appropriate for the animated continuity section. It seems to chronicle the circumstances of the movie, and not his personality. (Remember, in Dreamwave, he was never on Quintessa that we saw.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:Point conceded. The new bio's better than mine anyway. The whole entry is much improved. So many horrible rhymes...bwahahahahaha. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

We totally need to complete this entry. This deserves to be a Featured Article. sadly, I'm pretty awful about fiction. I OWN most of it, but don't REMEMBER it very well. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Having just rhymed all through the section I just added, I have no idea how Wheelie keeps it up 24/7. Exhausting! --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 09:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:Rhyming isn't really all that hard if you have the vocabulary of a bard. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed the manga summary to rhyme and keep the gag going. Though I think I write rhymes more like Dr. Seuss than Wheelie...--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

wow, this profile almost makes me wish I didn't use my Wheelie toy as cannon fodder in the late 80's -- great job with the rhymes whoever did this should work for a greeting card company

I'm fine with the rhyming in the article, but the rhythm really needs work. I'd change it, but I'm afraid of being accused of ripping apart large sections of the article for no good reason (see Walky's comment below).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not yet to be Featured==
Sipher, the reason I unfeatured it is because the inconsistency of the rhyme's meter is really embarrassing. If you read the history, you'll see my note. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:Then maybe you should have removed the "Featured Article" Category, which is why I put the tag on it (and is still there as of your last edit). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:: Indeed I should! Meanwhile, history is your friend. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

==Commercial voice==
Walky, Frank Welker never VOICED Scrappy-Doo! He did, however, voice Peewit. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Welker ''did'' voice Zzcooby & Freddy in new show! [[User:Wazzpinator|Wazzpinator]] 18:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

==Italian names==
I don't have the brainpower to add these in rhyme tonight. If somebody could, Wheelie was called Saetta in the dub of TFTM, and... apparently ''Scooter'' in everything else. (At least, it doesn't SEEM to be a joke...) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I apologize. - Chris McFeely, not signed in

== Continuity rhymes ==

"Continuity" doesn't rhyme with "see". [It rhymes with "bitty", to pick an irrelevant-but-accurate example] - 21:39, 16 August 2009 (EDT)
:It also rhymes with "enginuity"! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 20:03, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
::Or even "ingenuity"!--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:27, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Ooh! Here's one that's on-topic, "ambiguity"!! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 07:14, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

== But seriously, folks... ==

...am I going to be hugely unpopular if I state my belief that the article has, at this point, gone way overboard? Rhymes in the section headers, line-breaks all over the place, rhymes being used to describe continuities where he ''didn't rhyme''... I think that this page has long since crossed the line between "fun" and "taking it way too far". Frankly, I would almost be in favour of scaling it back to just having a rhyming opening and captions. A ''lot'' of the fiction section is, to my eyes, suffering because of the demands of the rhyme scheme. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:11, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:All my hard work...unappreciated...:( --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:47, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::But to be serious, I wrote nearly all the rhymes in the fiction portion of the article and created the linebreaks so folks could see the scheme. The rhymes in the fiction headers and continuity notes were some no-username's doing and I've never been very fond of them.
::Still, if many people agree that the humor interferes with the facts, then we can put it to a vote as to whether we get rid of the rhymes in the headers, the rhymes all together or if we just leave it. It may be ''my'' joke, but I'm not going to have a heart attack if others want to change it so it doesn't interfere with the facts (unlike ''some'' members of this Wiki). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Aw, it's not that it's not appreciated, I see what you were doing, but it's... it's like Bonecrusher hate jokes. We started out with them and they were funny when the article was small but then when it was filled in they got really tiresome but people kept dogpiling 'em on anyway, until we had to say "No more". That's sort of what I'm feeling here. The idea worked when the article was small, but when it's full (which it ''isn't'' yet!) I think it gets in the way more than it is fun. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:56, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I need to concur, although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure. At the very least, his summary. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::''I need to concur/although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure.''
:::::Why, there's one right there! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:31, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
But this is the most awesome page on the wiki. It's one of the things people think of when they talk about how awesome our wiki is. It's like getting rid of the teacup ride at Disneyland. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:Or the testicles in ROTF. The ''Awesome'' defense only goes so far, especially in Transformers.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::That's a terrible analogy. When people talk about our wiki, they mention our Wheelie article that is all rhymes, and this is a good thing that they think epitomizes what we stand for and why we're better than other wikis. When people talk about Devastator's balls, it's derisively. I don't understand your comparison. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:46, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::It's simple - Devastator's testicle's are 'awesome.' Bay thinks so. A lot of the moviegoing public though so. Most 'serious' fans thought otherwise. But an awful lot of people laughed and laughed at them, probably more than will ever read this wiki. Just because one group of people thinks something is awesome doesn't keep it from getting in the way of (imparting information / telling a strong story.) The fandom can be be a bit of an insulated community - an echo chamber, if you will. Pointing to anecdotal evidence one way or the other shouldn't be our benchmark. It's much more useful to go back to core principles.
::::But mostly I was seizing on your use of the word ''awesome'' which has been forever commingled with Bay for me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:25, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Well, I think the charm of us writing articles in the personality of the characters extends to more than just this one. [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]], etc., for instance. It can actually be weirdly useful sometimes in conveying information about characters without having to spell it out. But, if it's getting in the way of having an actual informative article in any instance, then it ''does'' need toning down. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

::I agree some of the rhyming should go. The headers, external link, notes and voice actor info in rhyme seems redundant to me, if not annoying. I can somewhat dig the argument not to put rhyme in sections of fiction in which he didn't rhyme, although I'd hate to see it go. But what I think would greatly help this article is a better layout. Currently, the article is all rather statically and confusingly "text-humongous white space-pic". I'd like to see it being connected a tad more by switching the text-pic order every second fiction/rhyme-paragraph (as well as having some of the paragraphs expanded). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:48, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::I think all of the ''paragraphs'' should remain in rhyme. Headers, bullet-point "list" items... no. That's overkill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 12:51, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, mark me down as a compromise vote. Ditch the headers/notes, etc rhymes but keep the fiction section poetry. Partly because I spent a lot of time writing most of it, but also because I don't think the fiction poetry really interferes with the knowledge. The headers and stuff is annoying, though. --'''DrSpengler (at work, can't log in)'''
::::I'll agree with that. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 14:55, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I'd quite happily dump the whole joke, which was never that funny. And it does seriously impede the article. '''Vote NO on this from me''' [[User:Eire]] 20.02 Oct 12 09 (UTC)

==Japanese fiction: Rhyme or Not Rhyme?==

Recently, I've been told to stop writing the Japanese fiction sections in rhyme because Wheelie didn't rhyme in Japan, and that all rhymes should be reverted to standard. I wrote the Japanes fiction sections in rhyme to keep up the theme and flow of the article, and because it was fun, yeah. But if everyone else thinks the Japanese fiction sections should be de-rhymed, then so be it. Let's take a vote. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 12:26, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''AGAINST''' rhyme in the Japanese section. It simply isn't appropriate for that incarnation of the character.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 12:39, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it''' because I like the general theme of the page, it's fun, and because Wheelie only never rhymed because the Japanese language sucks at rhyming (same reason why their poems and music lyrics don't rhyme). The sentence structure just doesn't work in its favor. Just because the Japanese couldn't do it doesn't mean we should follow suit. English rocks at rhyming. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:55, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Here's me voting '''for it''', because if we're going to do a gag, we ought to be consistent with it throughout the article, or it looks half-assed. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:33, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keep it consistent or keep it out. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:38, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Just so there's no confusion, I am obviously '''for it'''. I think the rhymes make the article fun and I believe that having random non-rhyming chunks would break up the flow of the page. And doing it just because Wheelie didn't rhyme in certain continuities isn't worth killing the fun. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:40, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keeps the page consistent and there's already someone willing to do it. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:00, 8 February 2010 (EST)
: I vote '''AGAINST''' all the rhyme. Seriously, you ever sit down and try to exract information from this page? Imagine you're someone who knows nothing of Wheelie. After reading this I guarantee you'll know even less. [[User: Eire]] 18.59 8 Feb 2010
:: Hey, were you the [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_5&diff=414380&oldid=413827 guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason], and so then he [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/593224.html?thread=14980936#t14980936 quit this wiki] because he was treated like shit? You don't get a vote. Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin' river. (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:I vote '''against''' the rhyme, and note that when I first read this page, the break ''away'' from rhyming was hilarious... particularly because the text of the section was written in short, flat deliberately ''boring'' sentences to maximize the contrast. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::Yeah. I don't vote for the lack of rhyming in the Headmasters section for technicality reasons, but because it would be hilarious. Especially if it were written like a petulant little punk. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''AGAINST''' btw. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it''' as I think it'd disrupt the flow, if it was only randomly rhyming.'''--TFDatabase'''
::''Whatever'' policy we adopt, it's not going to be random. If it rhymes, it's for a reason. If it doesn't rhyme (especially in specific sections), it's also for a reason.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 15:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::But it LOOKS random (at least before you know why it was done). Also, it seems weird that TFDatabase gets jumped on for using the same wording Spengs did earlier.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:10, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::::Just a fluke of timing. Nothing more. It's not like I'm constantly on the Wiki monitoring each and every comment that comes on.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 16:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' for the reasons already listed by so many others. Now, if you could find a way to do that section in haiku instead... [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:35, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::That idea is morbidly appealing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:50, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:57, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it'''. As Detour mentioned, Japanese sentence structures don't allow much room for rhyming and the rhyming is unique to Wheelie (like how SG Nightbeat's page is done in Edward G. Robinson's gangster character fashion).
:(Haiku? Good grief...) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:27, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::...so I have an evil sense of humor. You won't hold it against me, will you? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::Not really, but I can imagine the chore of parsing everything down to 5-7-5. Heck, [[Wikipedia:Waka (poetry)#Tanka|tanka]] might be a better option given its 5-7-5-7-7. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' the rhyming, for the reasons already given. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:41, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::'''As do I''', we have it noted that he didn't rhyme in other dubs anyway. [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 17:49, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''against''' rhyming in the Headmasters section. Having that section being assholey makes it even funnier, and Headmasters Wheelie is they guy who wouldn't go along with it simply to be a jerk. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:14, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' rhyming, as otherwise we should probably stick a disclaimer at the start of the Headmasters section because you know others will come along and make it rhyme again later anyway.--[[User:MCRG Again|MCRG Again]] 18:56, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''Against''' rhyming, because the Headmasters section should read like the dialog of the show: boring and stating the obvious, repeatedly. (I'd be for haiku form, though) -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 19:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''FOR''' rhyming because it'd flow badly otherwise. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:13, 8 February 2010 (EST)

: I would totally support rewriting ''Headmasters'' Wheelie in sarcastic Goth format, if it could be pulled off well. Otherwise.... eh. Having the rhyming is overkill. Not having it is inconsistent. Pick your poison! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:16, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''FOR''' rhyming. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 21:23, 8 February 2010 (EST)

I declare voting over. I'd only be convinced to ditch Spengler's large amounts of work over a technicality is if voting were overwhelmingly in favor of it. Like, near-unanimous. And that certainly isn't the case, so the rhyming stays. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:54, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:Yaayyy! I'm appreciated! I've got tomorrow off work so I'll knock out a few more episodes. If it's any consolation to those who voted against the rhymes, in order to write these fiction summaries I have to actually ''watch'' each episode. A most-terrible fate. So this is a very hollow victory for Spengler. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 22:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Okay, you know what? I seriously retract my earlier moan about the rhyming. Spengler is utterly rocking this, getting across all the relevant info in a way I never thought was possible. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:58, 15 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm cookin' MCs like a pound of bacon, yo. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 11:02, 15 February 2010 (EST)

==Featured Article material?==

So, I finally finished the thing. His every fiction section is completed, pics are plentiful and, so far as I know, his toy page is up to snuff (toys aren't my forte', I admit). Do you think this article is worthy of Featured Article status? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:04, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
:Considering Walky already slapped the Featured template on it, apparently it is. ;)
:(It's certainly the most impressive of our self-demonstrating articles, that's for damn sure.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:13, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
::Aw jeez, somehow I completely missed that. My bad! Disregard this! (and thanks, Walky!) --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:18, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

== If we ever get the chance... ==

I'd love to see a picture of Wheelie being attacked by Decepticons on this article with the caption "Oh men of dark and dismal fate, forego your cruel employ! Have pity on my lonely state: I am an orphan boy!" (This is a quote from Gilbert & Sullivan's ''Pirates of Penzance'', for the operatically ignorant.) I realize that there is no good picture for this caption as of now and that this will likely not happen, but I thought I'd just throw that out there. Also, kudos to those brave men and women who endeavored to write this article. You would make your English teachers proud.
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 00:33, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

== Wow ==

I can't even begin to imagine the effort that went into this. Truly epic! - [[User:LucidFox|LucidFox]] 10:29, 12 January 2012 (EST)

== Generations toy caption ideas ==

I pity the fool who's no Meister retool!

I pity the fool who ain't a retool!

Reformatted to look like Meister? I think this body is much nicer!

I may look like Jazz, Stepper, Longarm (not Prime)--but do any of them ever bother to rhyme?

I used to be a Minicar; a Jazz retool is better by far!

A Jazz retool can never fail (as long as you ignore the [[scale]])!

[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] 02:35, 26 September 2012 (EDT)

== What rhymes with 'orange'? ==

1) This entry is amazing, but 2) all this and no joke about the notorious difficulty of rhyming the word 'orange'?--[[User:Dubbilex|Dubbilex]] 03:29, 30 December 2012 (EST)
:"Door-hinge". I learned that from the Muppets. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:06, 1 March 2013 (EST)
::How about a rhyme for "purple"? "Urkel"? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:09, 1 March 2013 (EST)
:Bloom County recommends "whore binge". [[User:Phasma Felis|Phasma Felis]] 16:49, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

== Can we please tone down on the rhyming? ==

I get that a lot of you have spent a to of time and effort making this entire article rhyme, but can you guys please re-edit parts of this article to tone it down and remove the rhyming in some areas, specifically in the notes and toy section?

A little bit of rhyming would be fine, but to be blunt, the way the article is written is not pleasant to read and the rhyming just makes the article feel like a chore to read. It gets tiring to read very quickly and I would rather have the information be just available rather then hidden under annoying rhymes.

If not, can we at least have a non-rhyming page for this, similar to how some of the character articles are split into multiple pages like Main, G1 Cartoon, Toys and Merchandise etc? That way, you can keep the rhyming versions for those who want and a non-rhyming for those who don't want to read this version?[[User:Gretnablue|Gretnablue]] ([[User talk:Gretnablue|talk]]) 17:41, 22 November 2015 (EST)