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Talk:Dispensor

2024-08-30T21:20:38Z

Gwl:

You know, I'm hoping they make a toy of this guy, simply because it's delightfully silly. Granted, I'd rather have Signal Lancer, but still... --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 13:39, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

:I know it's silly but I've thought the same thing. I'd love a "Dewbot" in the movie line. Bought in a second. And think of the repaint potential...--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 16:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

::This article needs more Pepsi Convoy referances

== Movie appearance ==
I've heard some of the early reviews mention ol' Dewbot among the allspark created characters--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 04:23, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:there was indeed a Dewbot in the movie, not identical to the game version, but a Dewbot nonetheless.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

As he clearly is a different dewbot, I think the one in the actual movie should have a seperate page!

Yes, I say this just because I want a Dewbot disambig.
Is that so wrong?

:I don't think there's enough to say about either for them to warrent seperate pages. Both arre Dewbots, that's what, matters. Subsection of this page should do.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 00:05, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
::Actually no, both are Mountain Dew Robots, Dewbot (near as I can tell) is the name of the specific MDR in the game. ;) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

==Move to Mountain Dew Robot(s)==
Given the non-Dewbot MDR in the film, and Dew City and such, I think this article should be moved from Dewbot to Mountain Dew Robot or Robots. That way it can comfortably cover all Mountain Dew related Transformers fiction. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
: I'm down with that. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:: I'm comfortable with that, ti will have to be restructured, but that's not a problem. Robot singular BTW.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::: I agree. Mountain Dew Robots would be more ideal because both are Mountain Dew Robots, but the movie version is clearly not the same as the Dewbot in the game. --Kyouraku-taichou 20:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
:::: I worked on the Replaced By Robots Team that created the game version of the Dewbot, and no, they are not the same. The team was supposed to be given the model for the Dewbot, but after waiting weeks and not getting it, they eventually had to just create a new one that looked close to the movie version. If I recall correctly, all they had to go on was a hi-res photo from the movie, but I could be wrong. -- KDR 10:56, 29 December 2007
:::::Really? Booh, I think we were going on it being capitalized in the internal game resourced (Uh, decompil'd it.) Oh well, I guess Dewbot has to go into the Unnamed Characters category.
:::::Any chance you could hook us up with a nice rendering of the game-model? *smiles all hungrylike* -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::Derik, where you get anything about the character being unnamed? Because he uses "the Dewbot" instead od "Dewbot"? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 02:15, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I don't... ''know''. That's somewhat troubling. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Since we have an article called "Pretender" when there are lots, "Mountain Dew Robot" for article on the two of them is right. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 20:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:'''Do not move''' - Keep it where it is. Make a separate page for the movie one if you want to and use a disambig if necessary.[[User:Evan1975|Evan1975]] 19:07, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
::Do you have a rationale for that stance? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm good with the move, but if Dewbot gets a toy, he goes back here and the other stuff stays there.--[[User:chiasaur11|chiasaur11]] 19:08, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

No. Just plain no. They are '''two''' characters. Not one. This page stays.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 21:56, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

: Hold on; if you're saying they are two different characters then saying the page stays doesn't make sense because they are already grouped together. So, I'd believe you would want an entirely new article to be made; not keep it as it is. --Kyouraku-taichou 02:01, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

::Hold the phone! I put this post on another talk page! Click on the "article" button at the top of the screen. Now click "talk" again. It`s a totally new talk page! Sorry , you guys must`ve read my post after this festival of wierdness!

::I ''think'' we agreed awhile ago that this thould actually be ''three'' articles... it's just that no one has gotten around to splitting it yet. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:27, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

:::There is no point in having three articles. There isn't much to say say about Dewbot, and nearly nothing to say about "Dispensor". It's a much cleaner decision to put all the Mountain Dew stuff in a single article. Who that looks up Dispensor is really not going to want to read about Dewbot at the same time? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 14:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

==Mountain dew==
I thought it was spelled Mountain Dew? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 03:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

== Cine Fex Magazine feature. ==

The latest issue of CineFex magazine (with Optimus on the cover) is out on newstands and includes a wonderful clear decent-sized pic of the movie's MDR in bot mode. I didn't have the cash to pick it up to scan it, but it's a great shot if someone else wants to.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

==Uh...==
Shouldn't this page STILL be "Mountain Dew Robots"? Since it is not SOLELY about Dispensor? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:Since Dispensor is getting a toy and a official name and all, I'd suggest splitting this into a page for him, and another for the Capture the Cube game stuff. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 06:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
::[[Dispensor]] and [[Dewbot]], with [[Mountain Dew]] to link the two? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 06:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I've done it, anyway, on the principle that we give articles to things that we have absolutely nothing on. ([[Autotot]]s, [[Unicrons]], [[Rorza, the Rocket-cycle Racer from Rigel III]]...) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 06:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

==Titan Guy==
''*Titan Magazines' ''[[Transformers Comic issue 7]]'' features an Allspark-animated soda can machine, but it's not clear if it is supposed to be Dispensor, or if it's another one that we didn't see before that was just inspired by Dispensor's appearance in the film. It sure as heck doesn't ''look'' like Dispensor, but with this art...''
:Can we get a picture of this guy, either on the issue 7 page or for here? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 21:33, 28 April 2009 (EDT)

==Hasbro are cowards==
Making the toy just a basic-as-heck repaint instead of the vending machine transformer we all know and love [[User:Gwl|GWL]] ([[User talk:Gwl|talk]]) 17:20, 30 August 2024 (EDT)

Talk:Cheetor (ROTB)

2024-08-29T11:39:54Z

Gwl:

Is it really useful to have a trailer screenshot that's so blurry it's impossible to make anything out for the mainpic? I really think it'd be better to just slide the toy image up until we get proper promotional images/character renders, or at least until we get a screenshot that's actually legible. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 23:03, 24 January 2023 (EST)
:I mean, it's Cheetor as we KNOW he appears in the dang movie, not an inherently-inaccurate plastic representation thereof. For now, it's fine. It's fine. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]])
::I would rather even a picture of one of those beast mode zoo standees because at least you can make out what the hell it is. (But we'll inevitably get a robot mode render so it's all moot in the long run.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 23:45, 24 January 2023 (EST)

Just want to say, should we be listing the Deluxe toy under its exclusive release before and primarily over its regular single packed release? Same goes for all the other Jungle Mission toys to be honest. Especially when links from the ROTB toyline main page direct specifically to the single pack entries which don't hold any pertinent info. [[User:Wasp-shot23|Wasp-shot23]] ([[User talk:Wasp-shot23|talk]]) 16:06, 23 April 2023 (EDT)

Is there any details for why the movie changed the gender of Cheetor from Female to Male? [[User: Gwl|GWL]]
:Cheetor has kind of always been male up to this point in official media, you must have mixed him up with some other maximal.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 11:31, 20 August 2024 (EDT)

:ah yeah you're right, somehow confused him with tarantulas [[User:Gwl|GWL]] ([[User talk:Gwl|talk]]) 07:38, 29 August 2024 (EDT)

Talk:Cheetor (ROTB)

2024-08-29T11:39:26Z

Gwl:

Is it really useful to have a trailer screenshot that's so blurry it's impossible to make anything out for the mainpic? I really think it'd be better to just slide the toy image up until we get proper promotional images/character renders, or at least until we get a screenshot that's actually legible. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 23:03, 24 January 2023 (EST)
:I mean, it's Cheetor as we KNOW he appears in the dang movie, not an inherently-inaccurate plastic representation thereof. For now, it's fine. It's fine. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]])
::I would rather even a picture of one of those beast mode zoo standees because at least you can make out what the hell it is. (But we'll inevitably get a robot mode render so it's all moot in the long run.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 23:45, 24 January 2023 (EST)

Just want to say, should we be listing the Deluxe toy under its exclusive release before and primarily over its regular single packed release? Same goes for all the other Jungle Mission toys to be honest. Especially when links from the ROTB toyline main page direct specifically to the single pack entries which don't hold any pertinent info. [[User:Wasp-shot23|Wasp-shot23]] ([[User talk:Wasp-shot23|talk]]) 16:06, 23 April 2023 (EDT)

Is there any details for why the movie changed the gender of Cheetor from Female to Male? [[User: Gwl|GWL]]
:Cheetor has kind of always been male up to this point in official media, you must have mixed him up with some other maximal.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 11:31, 20 August 2024 (EDT)

:ah yeah you're right, somehow confused him with tarantulas
[[User:Gwl|GWL]] ([[User talk:Gwl|talk]]) 07:38, 29 August 2024 (EDT)

Talk:Cheetor (ROTB)

2024-08-29T11:39:08Z

Gwl:

Is it really useful to have a trailer screenshot that's so blurry it's impossible to make anything out for the mainpic? I really think it'd be better to just slide the toy image up until we get proper promotional images/character renders, or at least until we get a screenshot that's actually legible. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 23:03, 24 January 2023 (EST)
:I mean, it's Cheetor as we KNOW he appears in the dang movie, not an inherently-inaccurate plastic representation thereof. For now, it's fine. It's fine. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]])
::I would rather even a picture of one of those beast mode zoo standees because at least you can make out what the hell it is. (But we'll inevitably get a robot mode render so it's all moot in the long run.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 23:45, 24 January 2023 (EST)

Just want to say, should we be listing the Deluxe toy under its exclusive release before and primarily over its regular single packed release? Same goes for all the other Jungle Mission toys to be honest. Especially when links from the ROTB toyline main page direct specifically to the single pack entries which don't hold any pertinent info. [[User:Wasp-shot23|Wasp-shot23]] ([[User talk:Wasp-shot23|talk]]) 16:06, 23 April 2023 (EDT)

Is there any details for why the movie changed the gender of Cheetor from Female to Male? [[User: Gwl|GWL]]
:Cheetor has kind of always been male up to this point in official media, you must have mixed him up with some other maximal.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 11:31, 20 August 2024 (EDT)
:ah yeah you're right, somehow confused him with tarantulas
[[User:Gwl|GWL]] ([[User talk:Gwl|talk]]) 07:38, 29 August 2024 (EDT)

Talk:Cheetor (ROTB)

2024-08-29T11:38:29Z

Gwl:

Is it really useful to have a trailer screenshot that's so blurry it's impossible to make anything out for the mainpic? I really think it'd be better to just slide the toy image up until we get proper promotional images/character renders, or at least until we get a screenshot that's actually legible. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 23:03, 24 January 2023 (EST)
:I mean, it's Cheetor as we KNOW he appears in the dang movie, not an inherently-inaccurate plastic representation thereof. For now, it's fine. It's fine. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]])
::I would rather even a picture of one of those beast mode zoo standees because at least you can make out what the hell it is. (But we'll inevitably get a robot mode render so it's all moot in the long run.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 23:45, 24 January 2023 (EST)

Just want to say, should we be listing the Deluxe toy under its exclusive release before and primarily over its regular single packed release? Same goes for all the other Jungle Mission toys to be honest. Especially when links from the ROTB toyline main page direct specifically to the single pack entries which don't hold any pertinent info. [[User:Wasp-shot23|Wasp-shot23]] ([[User talk:Wasp-shot23|talk]]) 16:06, 23 April 2023 (EDT)

Is there any details for why the movie changed the gender of Cheetor from Female to Male? [[User: Gwl|GWL]]
:Cheetor has kind of always been male up to this point in official media, you must have mixed him up with some other maximal.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 11:31, 20 August 2024 (EDT)
: ah yeah you're right, somehow confused him with tarantulas
[[User:Gwl|GWL]] ([[User talk:Gwl|talk]]) 07:38, 29 August 2024 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers One (film)

2024-08-20T15:23:41Z

Gwl:

<span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:70px;line-height:70px;font-weight:900;">NO DECISIONS ON CONTINUITY FAMILY PLACEMENT WILL BE MADE UNTIL THE MOVIE IS RELEASED.</span>

==Caption theme==
Just putting it out there - the caption theme for this page HAS to be quotes from the 2007 movie, right? Bring us full circle? --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 21:09, 27 April 2023 (EDT)
:For once, I think TFTM would be an appropriate theme. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 22:17, 27 April 2023 (EDT)
::We already do that on the '07 page. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 23:30, 27 April 2023 (EDT)
:Some sort of prequel film - Revenge of the Sith, maybe, if a third Star Wars movie isn't pushing it. But we've only just gotten a cast and a reminder that this is still happening, it's too early to make a real call. [[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] ([[User talk:BattleBlade|talk]]) 03:24, 28 April 2023 (EDT)
::I have an idea, captions from ''The Super Mario Bros. Movie''. Considering that this movie is getting the same treatment for the cast as that movie did. Energizier 02:25, 3 July 2023 (EDT)

==Split characters?==
Just based on the trailer that just dropped, this film's aesthetic and characterisations are radically different from the two live action movie continuities, so should the characters be considered separate and given new pages (example; Optimus Prime (One), Sentinel Prime (One), etc) rather than share them with the already established film character pages? --[[User:Prime Temple|Prime Temple]] ([[User talk:Prime Temple|talk]]) 22:23, 20 April 2023 (EDT)
:No. The difference in characterisations is probably intentional as part of it being a prequel, with them changing dramatically over time. That and the art style do not overwrite the fact that the film is being treated by official sources as a prequel to the already existing films. We can note where details may not line up but unless the creators say otherwise they're considered the same characters here. [[User:Indridcold13|Indridcold13]] ([[User talk:Indridcold13|talk]]) 07:36, 20 April 2024 (EDT)
::Also, there is no such thing as "two live action movie continuities". We already covered a lot this whole topic since 2018. See [[Misconceptions_and_urban_legends_about_Transformers#Bumblebee|here]]. [[User:Grievous Prime|Grievous Prime]] ([[User talk:Grievous Prime|talk]]) 09:06, 20 April 2024 (EDT)
: No. For the billionth time, that's not how this wiki works. Characters are split up by ''major real world franchise'', not "piece of media's internal continuity (or lack thereof)". Otherwise we'd be splitting out every single character's comic-vs-cartoon selves, among other useless divisions that'd only make this wiki more bloated and hard to find information on. And as noted above, this movie is being treated by the makers of ALL these movies as a prequel to said movies. In the RARE instances of "internal" splits (like Wheeljack), those came WELL after the actual piece of media was released, and after a LOT of talk from the makers of said films as to whether or not those are the same characters or not. Not based on "vibes" from a single trailer months before we knew anything of actual substance. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:10, 20 April 2024 (EDT)

I don't really wade into these discussions anymore but my feelings are that as long as Michael Bay and Steven Spielberg remain executive producers, there's really no point to it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:36, 20 April 2024 (EDT)

I see that a lot of new characters have been added, but I don’t see a source. [[User:Chip|Chip]] ([[User talk:Chip|talk]]) 14:36, 26 July 2024 (EDT)

==New Continuity Confirmed==
Josh Cooley himself has confirmed that One is its own continuity, and not part of the live action film series. https://twitter.com/CooleyUrFaceOff/status/1817235351095894510
[[User:Jmcdavid|Jmcdavid]] ([[User talk:Jmcdavid|talk]]) 16:49, 27 July 2024 (EDT)
:We're still choosing to wait until the movie is out and we have the full picture to make the decision how to organize things. Even if it's a new continuity, which is likely where things will end up, we may still choose to keep it as part of the same continuity '''''family''''', similar to how characters in Marvel G1 and Cartoon G1 share a page despite being separate continuities. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:20, 27 July 2024 (EDT)
: Really tired of this dance. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:36, 27 July 2024 (EDT)
: Marvel G1 and Cartoon G1 are part of the family due to shared characters and aesthetic. One is a potpourri of aesthetics, with radically different stories from the tie-in comics for the Bay films, and characters like Airachnid who originated from different continuities. Stop trying to make the Bay films an all-consuming black hole for other Transformers films. [[User:Jmcdavid|Jmcdavid]] ([[User talk:Jmcdavid|talk]]) 17:47, 27 July 2024 (EDT)
::G1 as we categorize it is also a potpourri of aesthetics at this point. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:49, 27 July 2024 (EDT)
:::Unless a bunch of Movieverse characters die and stay dead through the end of One, I don't see how there's anything that would be strong enough to make us knock it out of the already very self-contradicting Movieverse. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:03, 27 July 2024 (EDT)
::Thank you for admitting that this isn't about following how the wiki has organized things for nearly two decades, but "wah Michael Bay". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:12, 27 July 2024 (EDT)
:Same Josh Cooley that on April 18 when asked whether the film is a fresh start, a prequel to the live-action films, or its own thing, replied with: "yes to all of the above" https://comicbook.com/movies/news/transformers-one-director-confirms-new-movies-canon-status. For God's sake stop. Just stop. If we'd categorize the medias solely based on our opinions and/or feelings there would be billions, no wait - '''trillions''', of continuities. Have you seen how many errors, discrepancies and changes of aesthetic there are in the G1 tv series? Then every single episode of the cartoon should be in its own separate canon. Like every studio Hollywood doesn't care about logic, just one thing: money. They kept elements of both the Bay and Knight/Caple movies. The change of aesthetic is irrelevant as much as it was for Origins Wolverine and First Class back in the 2010s for the X-Men movies. [[User:Grievous Prime|Grievous Prime]] ([[User talk:Grievous Prime|talk]]) 10:52, 30 July 2024 (EDT)
:There's a difference between a change in general aesthetic and a simple animation error. Also, in a now deleted tweet, [https://twitter.com/SixoTF Sixo] and the [https://twitter.com/Triple_Takeover Triple Takeover podcast] talked to Lorenzo and he was very clear and on board with the movie being in a new continuity. The fact it was deleted makes things complicated, but I saved screenshots of the whole thing. -[[User:Trashatron|Trashatron]] ([[User talk:Trashatron|talk]]) 19:01, 30 July 2024 (EDT)
::The Aligned continuity changed its "general aesthetic" with every single series, but we don't claim they're irreconcilable just because ''Prime'' looks different from ''Rescue Bots''. I'm another vote in favor of waiting for the movie to actually come out so we can see how much it actually contradicts before we do anything. Also, if you have evidence someone said a relevant thing, post it. Just saying you have screenshots and then not presenting them does nothing to forward your case. --[[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] ([[User talk:Ookalf|talk]]) 19:39, 30 July 2024 (EDT)
::I'll join the discord and post them later. Also, the trailers show the Tomb of the Primes ON Cybertron, meaning they're already dead. Look at the Matrix of Leadership, too. They both can't be on Earth at the same time, since Earth hasn't even formed yet. You can tell at a glance TFOne isn't connected to anything. -[[User:Trashatron|Trashatron]] ([[User talk:Trashatron|talk]]) 20:17, 30 July 2024 (EDT)
::Again, every continuity error is irrelevant as long as the makers of the movies (who share intellectual property with Hasbro, and have a higher saying on the matter than us) treat the final product as part of an already established series. One thing is having a [[personal canon]] supported by fan theories, the other thing is blatantly spreading false and un-confirmed information. I'd like to remember that this wiki is NOT an official website created and supported by either Hasbro and/or Paramount. As such we have literally no right to decide what's canon or not on our own. What we ''can do'' however is writing a specific section in the movie's page where we describe all the inconsistencies and odd creative choices made by Hasbro/Paramount that make hard to see the series as a consistent universe as a whole. Just like we did [[Bumblebee_(film)#Continuity_notes|here]] and [[Transformers:_Rise_of_the_Beasts_(film)#Continuity_notes|here]]. [[User:Grievous Prime|Grievous Prime]] ([[User talk:Grievous Prime|talk]]) 20:38, 30 July 2024 (EDT)

Why is it labelled as Live Action? Isn't it animated CGI? [[User:Gwl|GWL]] ([[User talk:Gwl|talk]]) 11:23, 20 August 2024 (EDT)

Talk:Cheetor (ROTB)

2024-08-20T15:13:53Z

Gwl: turns out that usernames are case-sensitive

User:Gwl

2024-08-20T15:04:19Z

Gwl: Created page with "Hello there, I have been a fan since Beast Wars and followed pretty much everything since, I gave up on the live action movies after Dark of the Moon though"

Hello there, I have been a fan since Beast Wars and followed pretty much everything since, I gave up on the live action movies after Dark of the Moon though

Talk:Cheetor (ROTB)

2024-08-20T15:02:57Z

Gwl: spelled my username incorrect

Talk:Cheetor (ROTB)

2024-08-20T15:02:01Z

Gwl: asking a question