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Talk:Nemesis Prime (disambiguation)

2012-10-14T04:41:23Z

Heriald of Primus:

There is a Nemesis prime from Dreamwaves [[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]] series. Should we have an article on this guy?--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 20:27, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
*[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|Dark Ages]] of [[Transformers: War Within: The Age of Wrath|Age of Wrath]]? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:30, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
:There is no Nemesis Prime in the Dreamwave comics. There was a 3" Titanium War Within Nemesis Prime (repaint of TWW Prime) displayed at Comic-Con last year, but it was never released. It should be mentioned as an unreleased toy of [[Nemesis Prime (G1)]], but should not get its own page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

::But the two are different characters! Should we just put a small "we have no clue who or what this guy is nor why he`s here" notice on the disambiguation page?--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 19:33, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Define "different characters." They're both black repaints of Optimus Prime who live in the Generation 1 continuity family named Nemesis Prime, and one of them wasn't even produced, keeping us from knowing anything specific about him, storywise, beyond that. The unreleased G1 Titanium should be a footnote on the [[Nemesis Prime (G1)]] page. Even beyond that, having [[Shockwave (G1)|conflicting versions of the same guy]] isn't really reason to split up the page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

== Classics ==

[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/classics-11/comic-con-exclusive-classics-nemesis-prime-confirmed-164278/ Holy crap we're getting to many of these guys!]--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 21:54, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Nemesis prime custum bio.ALL COPYRIGHT TO HASBRO AND TAKARA/TOMY!!!Transformers nemesis prime custum
In the last days of the war the Decepticons had Joined the Quintessons.This partnership was one make in The pit itself because the Quintessons had Ideas that were horrific and pleaseing to the Decepticons.The Quintessons came up with the Idea to make the perrfect worrieor to be the new decepticon leader.They took they took the powerchips from the decepticons that had speceial powers and created a Mind chip from the now dead Megatron and Galvatron 2.They also used the though to be legend Destruction matrix.They placed the chips and the Matix into a copy of Optimus prime's body.The result was the first prime to be made from the Decepticon side Nemesis prime! A skilled leader like megatron With the power of Galvatron 2 and the seeker comanders he lead the Decepticons into a new great war so bad that Primus was not sure the Autobots would win.So did what he had to do he unleashed his secret weapon The last Autobot as well as thenewest prime from a time ruled by Nemesis prime timelose.To help the Autobots in the last battle between the Decepticons.The Decepticons were all defeated and Nemesis was traped in power drain pod on their war ship that was set to selfdestruct.They thought it was all over but as Nemesis flowed in space he found him self at the head of unicron who was thought to be long dead.Nemesis used his Matrix to rebuild Unicron.In exchange for his help Unicron gave him a peace of his power and placed a symbol on his face plate that ment he was his herild.This last battle forced Primus to finaly transform and face his brother once again.Nemesis beat Optimus and was about to kill him.Timelose prime came to save him and they battled to the death. Nemesis drove himself into unicron's spark causeing them to fusi and gave him the uperhand and riped the matrix out of Prim's chest and destroid it.Timelose then used the time zone keys to reformate Optimus with the power of the universe star.But that was still not enough and Nemesis beat Optimus in just a few minutes.Timelose atacked Nemesis with all his might and broke his faceplate.His anger and hatred for Nemesis erupted and activated his spark fire a secrert weapon of the prime's.He finished of Nemesis grabed Optimus and escaped Unicrons body. Primus Took down the weakend Unicron once and for all with his creator smash.But 5 years later Optimus started feeling uneasy at night.He started having dark thoughts and went into stasis lock for no aparent reason.Then one night he felt a massive amount of pain his body began to change him finger became sharpe and what happened to him was that Nemesis had posesed him and was transforming him into his new body.Nemesis went on a rampage and but turned back into Optimus at dawn.Inside they fought for controll but Nemesis was to strong for him.Omega supreme found Nemsis and held him off for Wheeljack to finish building the spark remover.Knowing he could kill Optimus. They traped Nemesis in the pod and almost took Optimus's spark with him.Nemesis's spark mutated in to his new body with the dna he got from prime.Now insted of being a cybord of him he was dna speeking his son.The three battled and knocked out Nemesis.Seeing as they could not kill him they locked him up in a chamber that was made of Omega energon,red energon and normal energon.The reaction keeps him from using his powers.He is now siting humoresly in the autobot counsle roomand as of yet has never broken out

User:Heriald of Primus

2012-10-14T03:27:57Z

Heriald of Primus:

Nemesis prime custum bio.ALL COPYRIGHT TO HASBRO AND TAKARA/TOMY!!!Transformers nemesis prime custum
In the last days of the war the Decepticons had Joined the Quintessons.This partnership was one make in The pit itself because the Quintessons had Ideas that were horrific and pleaseing to the Decepticons.The Quintessons came up with the Idea to make the perrfect worrieor to be the new decepticon leader.They took they took the powerchips from the decepticons that had speceial powers and created a Mind chip from the now dead Megatron and Galvatron 2.They also used the though to be legend Destruction matrix.They placed the chips and the Matix into a copy of Optimus prime's body.The result was the first prime to be made from the Decepticon side Nemesis prime! A skilled leader like megatron With the power of Galvatron 2 and the seeker comanders he lead the Decepticons into a new great war so bad that Primus was not sure the Autobots would win.So did what he had to do he unleashed his secret weapon The last Autobot as well as thenewest prime from a time ruled by Nemesis prime timelose.To help the Autobots in the last battle between the Decepticons.The Decepticons were all defeated and Nemesis was traped in power drain pod on their war ship that was set to selfdestruct.They thought it was all over but as Nemesis flowed in space he found him self at the head of unicron who was thought to be long dead.Nemesis used his Matrix to rebuild Unicron.In exchange for his help Unicron gave him a peace of his power and placed a symbol on his face plate that ment he was his herild.This last battle forced Primus to finaly transform and face his brother once again.Nemesis beat Optimus and was about to kill him.Timelose prime came to save him and they battled to the death. Nemesis drove himself into unicron's spark causeing them to fusi and gave him the uperhand and riped the matrix out of Prim's chest and destroid it.Timelose then used the time zone keys to reformate Optimus with the power of the universe star.But that was still not enough and Nemesis beat Optimus in just a few minutes.Timelose atacked Nemesis with all his might and broke his faceplate.His anger and hatred for Nemesis erupted and activated his spark fire a secrert weapon of the prime's.He finished of Nemesis grabed Optimus and escaped Unicrons body. Primus Took down the weakend Unicron once and for all with his creator smash.But 5 years later Optimus started feeling uneasy at night.He started having dark thoughts and went into stasis lock for no aparent reason.Then one night he felt a massive amount of pain his body began to change him finger became sharpe and what happened to him was that Nemesis had posesed him and was transforming him into his new body.Nemesis went on a rampage and but turned back into Optimus at dawn.Inside they fought for controll but Nemesis was to strong for him.Omega supreme found Nemsis and held him off for Wheeljack to finish building the spark remover.Knowing he could kill Optimus. They traped Nemesis in the pod and almost took Optimus's spark with him.Nemesis's spark mutated in to his new body with the dna he got from prime.Now insted of being a cybord of him he was dna speeking his son.The three battled and knocked out Nemesis.Seeing as they could not kill him they locked him up in a chamber that was made of Omega energon,red energon and normal energon.The reaction keeps him from using his powers.He is now siting humoresly in the autobot counsle roomand as of yet has never broken out

Talk:Female Transformer

2012-10-09T21:56:39Z

Heriald of Primus: /* Gallery */

== Strika ==

There seems to be some vehemence about Strika's status (or not) as a female.

While I agree that there is no 'definitive' evidence that Strika is female, neither is there 'definitive' evidence that most TFs are male, yet we have no difficulty accepting that fact. To dismiss the (in my view) quite reasonable assumption that Strika is female as 'fan-conjecture' ignores a number of common-sense factors:

* The fact that in the cartoon she was voiced by female voice actor - there is no instance I can recall of a female TF character being voiced by a male actor or vice versa.

* That she is referred to as Obsidian's consort (rather than associate) is not insignificant. There is a nuance of meaning in the term that implies that they are not merely associates, but their relationship would be more similar to that of husband and wife, or domestic companions. The primary meaning of consort is the spouse of a monarch, which would sit well with Obsidian's perceived status.

On this basis, I think that it is reasonable to assert that Strika is intended to be a female character until there is conclusive evidence to the contrary. Perhaps she should be included in this listing, with a disclaimer about lack of formal evidence. To do otherwise would smack of legalistic hair-splitting.

:...I wasn't aware this was even in doubt. It'd require a fairly baroque misreading of Beast Machines to make Strika a dude. (BWR might change that.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
: I was also unaware. How can she not be a girl? ''Her tech spec calls her a girl.'' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
: I'd like to third this "what the hell?". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

::...what do you mean fan-conjecture? He identifies her as his consort. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:::http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consort 
:::Of the SIX DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS, several of which are military in nature, only ONE is romantic. And again, there is absolutely fuck-all outside of one word with multiple accurate non-romatic applications to suggest any form of romance between the two. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

::::Really? Huh, I didn't think any of the other definitions actually fit...
::::''1. a husband or wife; spouse, esp. of a reigning monarch. Compare PRINCE CONSORT , QUEEN CONSORT.
::::''2. one ship accompanying another.
::::''3. a. a group of instrumentalists and singers who perform music, esp. old music. b. a group of instruments of the same family, as viols, played in concert.
::::''4. a companion, associate, or partner.
::::''5. accord or agreement.
::::That leaves us #1 or #4... on reflection, the way Obsidian says it really '''does''' fit #4 better. *checks TF ultimate guide* Huh, there it calls her his cohort, which again seems to support Obsidian meant she was his partner, not sexytime toy.
::::Perhaps there should be a note on the Strika page? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::Er... perhaps there should be a Strika page? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

::::::Ah, I think I follow something of the "WTF?" I have created - the conjecture is not about Strika's status as a female, but about the nature of the relationship with Obsidian implied from this. Apologies for this misreading.

::::::Having said this, some fundamental points remain - yes, there are 6 definitions of consort, but these are not equal or interchangeable - the most common or accepted usage of the term is almost always the one defined first.

::::::If the creators of Beast Machines had intended a more neutral relationship like associate, partner or companion, they could easily have used those words, and thus have prevented this current debate. However, the fact that they chose to use the word consort does make certain implications far more reasonable. There have been few (if any) female TFs introduced who did not have some manner of romantic or intimate entanglement. Since there is little doubt of Strika's gender, it is reasonable on this basis to assert that Obsidian and Strika were in an interdependent relationship similar to a marriage. Whether this included physical intimacy is neither here nor there, since many marriages can be founded on mutual attachment without intimacy. We can debate the nature of romance until the cows come home, though this wiki is probably not the best forum for this.

::::::So, relationship or not? --[[User:Sofaman|Sofaman]] 12:20, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

::::::::It's been awhile since I watched BM... (I hope to get the DVD set for Christmas) but did Obsidian ever show any affection for Strika? Any sign or romantic involvement aside from calling her his consort? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
::::::::: Not really. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

== "femme" ==

Wasn't this term used already officially? (I remember being irate about something a few weeks back...) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

It sounds better than "fembot" at any rate. That term evokes images of Futurama. - [[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]]
:Austin Powers comes to mind first, actually. Images of Futurama would be awesome. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:39, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

::I'd have to double-check my Transformers: Decepticons DS game, but I think Barricade uses the term "fembot" as an insult to Create-a-Bot at one point. If so, "fembot" has been used in an official capacity, unfortuately. I still think "femme" without the bot suffix sounds a lot better. -- [[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]]
:::Fembot's certainly been used officially. Rattrap said it in "Nemesis," and Downshift's Cyber Key bio mentioned his "femmebot lifebond partner." I know of no uses of "femme" on it's own in canon. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Really, the Austin Powers fembots are a pop culture reference to the Bionic Woman fembots. Right down to the faceplates falling off.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 07:23, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
===origin of the term===
OK let's explain that. The way the female transformers are called "femme" is really a reference to the french language in a pun way. You see, "dude" can be translated in French by "mec", which is a slang for "homme" (the french word for "man"). Also, "mec" sound a lot like "mech" (which, but you all know that, is a slang term that refer to battle robots). And there you have it: English word "mech", (which sound like the french word "mec" which means "man" or rather "dude") refers to male robot while the French word "femme" also (used sometimes in English, as in "femme fatale") is used to refer to female transformers, in opposition to mech->mec(French word)->dude->male transformers.
So, the fandom term "femme" does effectively come from a bilingual English-French pun (Mech<->Mec). --[[User:81.242.224.75|81.242.224.75]] 15:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:The problem is, we really need two cites there. First, we need a cite proving that fans ''do'' in fact use "mech" and "femme" in fanfic to refer to male and female Transformers. Then, we need a cite saying that they explictly got this from the French words "femme" and "mec", and not, say, from Ratrap referring to Blackarachnia as an "emasculatin' fembot", from the Futurama "fembots", from the Austin Powers "fembots", or from the Bionic Woman "fembots".
:So, if you can provide a link to some proof of either of those things, we'd be delighted to have it. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::well for your second point, the term in discussion is "femme" not "fembot", no need to melt the two everybody know the term "femme fatal". As for your first point, while I have meet the term several time in different fiction, it is not that often used, so Icouldn't really provide the origin personally. Also, please not that I didn't povide the femme<->mech explanation, I just read it and only further explain the logical link between those two words. Ho and sorry to have missed the footnote, didn't have noticed it. --[[User:81.242.224.75|81.242.224.75]] 15:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

::: I don't care enough about this to DO IT, but might I suggest that someone who wanted to try and make that case go through the records of the old Alt.transformers.fanfic usenet group from the early days of the fandom and try and track down the earliest uses of the terms in this way, and then see if any of those writers could still be found in the much larger and more disparate fandom of today so they might be asked where they got it from. Who knows if it'd work, but I think it's your only shot at "proof".

::::I don't know about the French Connection, but if you look here, at [http://www.fanfiction.net/cartoon/Transformers_Beast_Wars/|Fanfiction.net's Transformers/Beast Wars section], you'll find LOTS of stories that use the terms "Mech" and "Femme". I especially recommend [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3739984/1/Sparks_and_Plasma|"Sparks and Plasma"], [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3743427/1/What_Time_We_Have_Left|"What Time We Have Left"] and [http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3789925/1/Night_Fire|"Night Fire"] as examples of stories that deal with male/female TF relationships in a tastefully and well-written way. --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 15:57, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

One other thing tough. The online translator may be wrong. I have never ever herd the word "mec" used to refer to "pimp". There may be a confusion with "mac" who can basically be translated by "mack". But for "mec" the most accurate translation is "dude" never seen it used for "pimp". --[[User:81.242.224.75|81.242.224.75]] 16:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:Please use the Preview button so that you can make your comments using one edit instead of three.
:[http://books.google.com/books?id=-BcYAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq=mec+french+pimp&source=web&ots=5k0ZgdPptF&sig=oIappLss_TdlXGAoliETFT6U5b4&hl=en This says mec = pimp.]
:
:[http://www.ideaswise.com/international_advertising.html Point 14 here says the same.]
:[http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=235&aid=75329 "He was a pimp, or in the French slang, a 'mec.'"]
:[http://stomptokyo.com/movies/irma-la-douce.html Also see the classic movie Irma La Douce, in which Jack Lemmon ends up as Shirley MacLaine's mec.]
:[[User:JW|JW]] 16:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:: Indeed, I found it too, it seems that the word effectively refer to pimp but in a more positive way (it actually can be translated as "official" lover of the prostitute). But nowadays, it is almost never used in that way and is only used for "dude". [http://www.cnrtl.fr/lexicographie/mec?]--[[User:81.242.224.75|81.242.224.75]] 16:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

No offense, but I don't know if it's within the scope of the wiki to delve this deeply into fanfiction culture.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:24, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:Or French culture, for that matter.
:Anyway, I really don't think the current section of the page devoted to this should get any larger, but I think the brief mention we have is okay.
:Plus, the "mech = pimp" bit amuses me. (Corollary: I'm easy to amuse.) [[User:JW|JW]] 16:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:As I have said before,I didn't put the fandom part, I just mentioned the French origin of the term.--[[User:81.242.224.75|81.242.224.75]] 16:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

== Decepticon Females ==
Should we have a section in here about the relative scarcity of unqualified female Decepticons in high-profile franchises? ("Unqualified" in the sense of "not former Autobots gone bad".) [[User:JW|JW]] 14:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

: I think that would be a good idea, considering there's only 3 I can think of in North American releases -- Strika in Beast Machines, Flamewar in the Timelines comics (though those were BotCon exclusives so probably don't count) and Thunderblast in Cybertron. We need more bad girls that have always been bad, and will stay that way. I like the idea of '''SPOILERS''' Blackarachnia in Animated being Elita-1, but I would still like to see more pure Decepticon femmes as well. A movieverse Decepticon femme would be cool too.

:Hell, I'm just happy that Hasbro's finally realizing that girls [http://www.lilformers.com/comic0075.php] play with Transformers too. --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 22:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::Well, Strika wasn't a ''Decepticon,'' and she (like Obsidian) might have been an Autobot before becoming a Vehicon. [[User:JW|JW]] 22:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Strika's faction, and indeed her role in Cybertron's history, are maddeningly vague.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Okay, so that makes just one female Decepticon who has stayed a Decepticon EVER in any cartoon, and she's ...well, Thunderblast. *Sigh*. At least I can pretend my Arcee black repaint is Flamewar. --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 22:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

== "In fiction" articles ==
I was kind of wondering, this is one of the few articles not really written "in fiction". Large parts of it are "behind the scenes" kind of thing which are usually reserved to the Notes section. "Originally Simon Furman stated that he would not use female Transformers in IDW..." "Arcee was originally going to be featured as part of the cast of the Transformers film, but was cut..."

Are there some articles, like this one, where this is OK? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:32, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

I've been wanting to rewrite this article for ages for stuff like this, but well, I suck at writing. As far as I can see, this article has no justification to be an exception to the standards. I'd strongly prefer to see it become look more like a regular "trait"-article (like [[Mini-Cassette]] and [[Triple Changer]]). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:35, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

:I think this article is just fine the way it is, and an "in-universe" rewrite wouldn't improve it in any way. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:00, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
:: We do have some out-of-universe articles because they tend to work better that way, such as [[Spark]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:30, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

== Gallery ==
Is it just me, or would the gallery of toys work better on the [[List of female Transformers]] page? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:48, 9 December 2009 (EST)

:At the very least, it should be on its own page, or, alternatively, a category, so there isn't 800kb of images on there. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:22, 9 December 2009 (EST)

::Maybe a subpage/suite-type thing? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:24, 9 December 2009 (EST)

:::To be honest, I don't see why we need it at all. We already have a list of female characters which links to all of their articles which have toy pictures at the bottom. Why the need to see them all in one place? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:41, 9 December 2009 (EST)

::::I actually agree, but wasn't sure if others did. I brought it up because (if it really needs to be kept) this doesn't seem like the proper place to keep it. Your suggestion of a category is looking better and better. Anyone else want to weigh in? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:44, 9 December 2009 (EST)

:::::...I could note that we already ''have'' a [[:Category:Female Transformer toy images|Female Transformer toy images]] category... --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:56, 9 December 2009 (EST)

::::::Probably best to remove the gallery and just insert a link to the category page, then. Of course, I still feel it should be on the "List" page instead of this one. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:00, 9 December 2009 (EST)

:::::::There is little harm in having a link to a category in multiple places. --[[Special:Contributions/63.203.180.99|63.203.180.99]] 18:29, 9 December 2009 (EST)

::::::It's okay to be removed from the page, but I'd prefer moving to [[Female Transformer/toys]] as a subpage. [[:Category:Female Transformer toy images|Female Transformer toy images]] category can only show the image, but it is less organized (unlike [[Unreleased toy/gallery]] {{m-}} it doesn't include any link/character name/product name such as "[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia]]". (I create a toylist is because not all female characters have their own toys.) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 20:02, 9 December 2009 (EST)

:::::::As it is now, I don't see much point in keeping the toy gallery. However, I'd like to see it get a subpage if the bigger picture of feamle toy history can be put it as a "to sell toys"-explanation to why the fiction regarding female TFs is as it is. How female characters didn't/don't sell as well as male characters, cancellation of Beet Papil's toy, the lack of (non-redeco) toys for many female TFs, cancellation of Arcee's toys, the reason for Nightracer's existence, etc. Something like that should give a gallery a good reason to exist. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:10, 10 December 2009 (EST)
::::::::Just a quick note to let y'all know that I've just added a "Female Transformers toy" tag to all the Female TF toy images on the wiki. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:15, 13 December 2009 (EST)
===Archives===
Temporarily files which may be used for a subpage in some day.

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me want more fembots now

==Romances==
Should the romance section possibly be moved to its own article? It seems to be quite a bit large for a subsection of this one, and could reasonably be expanded upon. Some material from [[Reproduction]] might be relevant to such a new article as well. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:03, 26 December 2009 (EST)
:That might not be a bad idea... considering we have articles for stuff like relatives, reproduction, "sexuality" in the Humanization article, and robot/squishie romances, it seems like an odd omission to not really have a dedicated robot/robot romance article. Or rather, currently all of our robot/robot romance stuff is kind of scattered around in various places of said other articles. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:47, 26 December 2009 (EST)

:Actually, I have been wanting to write a "Romance" (because "Sexuality" is only a bit less correct term) article for quite some time, merging this article's Romance section, Robot-Fleshling romance and a bit from the Humanization article's Sexuality section into one (and adding a much-needed list of those cases in which a Transformer's interest didn't go to something alive). However, thus far I have not found the time to get to it. Would greatly appreciate to see someone else make a start. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:48, 26 December 2009 (EST)
:P.S., you know, if no one else does it within twelve hours, I will kick myself to finally do it. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:04, 26 December 2009 (EST)
::<strike>[[User:Ninjabot33/Romance|Done]]. Feel free to give advice in it's talk page 'cos it's not that great. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 17:55, 13 January 2010 (EST)</strike>
:::You may want to join forces with Geewunling: "User:Geewunling/Romance-Sandbox" --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 18:03, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::Now that page has already been made that sandbox is no longer needed. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 12:20, 2 February 2010 (EST)
::::If you want to ditch it entirely, you can stick a <tt>'''{{tl|speedy}}'''</tt> tag (for speedy delete) on the top of the page with a note that you don't need it, and that will let the admins know to delete it. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:47, 2 February 2010 (EST)

==Ratchet==
I feel the fact that G1 Ratchet was [[:Image:G1RatchetSexchange.jpg|originally going to be female]] needs to be brought up on this page somehow. I'm at a loss as to how, though. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 10:52, 31 December 2010 (EST)
:It should, but then again, this page is lacking a lot. I've tried several months ago to make a [[User:Geewunling/FemaleTF-Sandbox|completely new fT article]], but quit when I realized the design wasn't working. Still have to pick it up again, but in the meantime everyone else is invited to edit it or drop suggestions on the talk page. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:43, 31 December 2010 (EST)

User:Heriald of Primus

2012-09-25T01:07:20Z

Heriald of Primus:

This is my Nemesis prime custom bio I made-In the last days of the war the Decepticons had Joined the Quintessons.This partnership was one make in The pit itself because the Quintessons had Ideas that were horrific and pleaseing to the Decepticons.The Quintessons came up with the Idea to make the perrfect worrieor to be the new decepticon leader.They took they took the powerchips from the decepticons that had speceial powers and created a Mind chip from the now dead Megatron and Galvatron 2.They also used the though to be legend Decepticon matrix.They placed the chips and the Matix into a copy of Optimus prime's body.The result was the first prime to be made from the Decepticon side Nemesis prime! A skilled leader like megatron With the power of Galvatron 2 and the seeker comanders he lead the Decepticons into a new great war so bad that Primus was not sure the Autobots would win.So did what he had to do he unleashed his secret weapon The last Autobot as well as the most loyal and good hearted of the 13 primes to help the Autobots in the last battle between the decepticons.The Decepticons were all defeated and Nemesis was traped in power drain pod on their war ship that was set to selfdestruct.They thought it was all over but as Nemesis flowed in space he found him self at the body of unicron who was thought to be long dead.Nemeis used his Matrix to rebuild Unicron and Unicron gave him new power because of his in exchange for his help Unicron gave him a peace of his powered a symbol on his face plate of Unicrons face that ment *to serve evil*.This last battle force Primus to finaly transform and face his brother once again.Nemesis beat Optimus and was about to kill him when Optimus's Hotrod came to save him and they battle to the death. Nemesis drove himself into unicron's spark causeing them to fusi and gave him the uperhand and riped the Matrix out of Optimus's chest and killed him Hotrod took it and and placed it in his chamber and became Rodimus prime onece again.He finished of Nemesis and at the same time Primus used his creator smash and blew up Unicrons head and caused him to inplode.hope someone likes it!

User:Heriald of Primus

2012-09-23T02:02:44Z

Heriald of Primus:

This is my Nemesis prime custom bio I made-In the last days of the war the Decepticons had Joined the Quintessons.This partnership was one make in The pit itself because the Quintessons had Ideas that were horrific and pleaseing to the Decepticons.The Quintessons came up with the Idea to make the perrfect worrieor to be the new decepticon leader.They took they took the powerchips from the decepticons that had speceial powers and created a Mind chip from the now dead Megatron and Galvatron 2.They also used the though to be legend Decepticon matrix.They placed the chips and the Matix into a copy of Optimus prime's body.The result was the first prime to be made from the Decepticon side Nemesis prime! A skilled leader like megatron With the power of Galvatron 2 and the seeker comanders he lead the Decepticons into a new great war so bad that Primus was not sure the Autobots would win.So did what he had to do he unleashed his secret weapon The last Autobot as well as the most loyal and good hearted of the 13 primes to help the Autobots in the last battle between the decepticons.The Decepticons were all defeated and Nemesis was traped in power drain pod on their war ship that was set to selfdestruct.They thought it was all over but as Nemesis flowed in space he found him self at the body of unicron who was thought to be long dead.Nemeis used his Matrix to rebuild Unicron and Unicron gave him new power because of his in exchange for his help Unicron gave him a peace of his powered a symbol on his face plate of Unicrons face that ment *to serve evil*.This last battle force Primus to finaly transform and face his brother once again.Nemesis beat Optimus and was about to kill him when Optimus's dauter Cycleblade came to save him and they battle to the death. Nemesis drove himself into unicron's spark causeing them to fusi minds and gave him the uperhand and riped the Matrix out of Optimus's chest and killed him Cycleblade took it and and placed it in her spark chamber and became Nitra prime.she finished of Nemesis and at the same time Primus used his creator smash and blew up Unicrons head and caused him to inplode.hope someone likes it!

Talk:Big Convoy (BW)

2012-09-22T04:19:15Z

Heriald of Primus:

I sure as hell never heard anyone call him "Maximus Prime". Besides, "Optimus Primeval" is better anyway. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 08:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

*The only Maximus Prime I know of is the dude who used to mod at Seibertron. I don't think it's ''that'' widely spread a term among the fandom. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 16:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

**Additionally, using "Maximus Prime" makes it kinda hard for people to know what the fuck you're talking about. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 16:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I came up with a name for him and realy like it Gigantus prime like gigantic and Optimus prime

User:Heriald of Primus

2012-09-22T04:12:48Z

Heriald of Primus: New page: This is my Nemesis prime custom bio I made-In the last days of the war the Decepticons had Joined the Quintessons.This partnership was one make in The pit itself because the Quintessons ha...

This is my Nemesis prime custom bio I made-In the last days of the war the Decepticons had Joined the Quintessons.This partnership was one make in The pit itself because the Quintessons had Ideas that were horrific and pleaseing to the Decepticons.The Quintessons came up with the Idea to make the perrfect worrieor to be the new decepticon leader.They took they took the powerchips from the decepticons that had speceial powers and created a Mind chip from the now dead Megatron and Galvatron 2.They also used the though to be legend Decepticon matrix.They placed the chips and the Matix into a copy of Optimus prime's body.The result was the first prime to be made from the Decepticon side Nemesis prime! A skilled leader like megatron With the power of Galvatron 2 and the seeker comanders he lead the Decepticons into a new great war so bad that Primus was not sure the Autobots would win.So did what he had to do he unleashed his secret weapon The last Autobot as well as the most loyal and good hearted of the 13 primes to help the Autobots in the last battle between the decepticons.The Decepticons were all defeated and Nemesis was traped in power drain pod on their war ship that was set to selfdestruct.They thought it was all over but as Nemesis flowed in space he found him self at the body of unicron who was thought to be long dead.Nemeis used his Matrix to rebuild Unicron and Unicron gave him new power because of his in exchange for his help Unicron gave him a peace of his powered a symbol on his face plate of Unicrons face that ment *to serve evil*.This last battle force Primus to finaly transform and face his brother once again.Nemesis beat Optimus and was about to kill him when Optimus's dauter Cycleblade came to save him and they battle to the death. Nemesis drove himself into unicron's spark causeing them to fusi minds and gave him the uperhand and riped the Matrix out of Optimus's chest and killed him Cycleblade took it and and placed it in her spark chamber and became Nitra prime.she finished of Nemesis and at the same time Primus used his creator smash and blew up Unicrons head.Hope someone will like it!