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Talk:Barricade (G1)

2017-06-18T18:31:27Z

Hollywood SN:

His alternate mode might well be modelled after one of the early series McLaren MP4s, maybe an MP4/1B - the legs seem to be intended to represent the massive rear wings the cars were running with in 1984.

== IDW Micromasters ==

Barricade is yet another Gorlam Prime Micromaster reimagined as a Cybertronian. How do we want to incorporate both versions? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 12:38, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
:I'd be tempted to suggest putting the WFC-design Barricade at a new article. He isn't really a version of Micromaster Barricade in anything but name... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:29, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
::Haven't read ''[[The Transformers: Punishment|Punishment]]'' but yeah, if the Barricade there is not based on the Micromaster toy, then we've basically just got [[Talk:Dropshot (G1)|this argument]] again. "All the good names are taken", as Roberts says.
::Might have to be one of those weird Kre-O disambiguations like <nowiki>[[Starscream (Armada Kre-O)]]</nowiki>, though, since he's shouldn't be on either the Barricade (WFC) or Barricade (G1) pages. Barricade (IDW WFC)? Or maybe just Barricade (Punishment)? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:55, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
:::What about just Barricade (IDW), a la Goldbug and Buster? --[[User:Sockie|Sockie]] ([[User talk:Sockie|talk]]) 14:01, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
::::He's not the only Barricade in IDW, though -- the Micromaster Barricade appeared in ''[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]''. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 14:57, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
:::::IDW seems to be increasingly utilizing Micromasters as full-sized Transformer characters in their continuity. Barricade certainly isn't the first, and I doubt he'll be the last (he's just the first who doesn't have a Japanese version to be shunted into the Gorlam Prime spot). One solution would be to just no longer consider the Gorlam Prime Micromasters as being the same as the Transformers Micromasters and just create one page for all of them, but that seems like a bit of a nuclear option. Either way, I think this is an issue that goes beyond just Barricade and needs to be dealt with globally, rather than locally for each character. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:24, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
::::::The circumstances for each case ARE different, though:
::::::*[[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]] was a non-issue, because he didn't appear in ''[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]''.
::::::*[[Motorhead (Autobot)|Motorhead]] was unrecognizable as the Micromaster, and just assigned to Motorhead (Autobot).
::::::*[[Dropshot (G1)|Dropshot]] was represented by a toy body-type from the same continuity family, but different franchise, so Dropshot (Universe) got split from (G1).
::::::*Barricade, however, was represented by a body-type from a different continuity family and franchise, so he can't just be put on Barricade (WFC).
::::::*[[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]] was a testament to the Wiki's value: prior to [[Before & After|MTMTE #12]], his Fiction section was ''missing'' his appearance in ''[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]''.
::::::Whether to split the pages, how to split the pages, what disambiguations to use...these change from case to case. Short of ignoring the Gorlam Prime Micromasters altogether somehow, each IDW Micromaster-turned-Bulk needs to addressed individually for those reasons. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 16:50, 26 June 2014 (EDT)4

==Seperate==
Since IDW Full-sized Barricade is based on Movie Barricade and looks nothing like Micromaster Barricade, I say seperate.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 11:22, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 11:29, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
:: I mean, beyond the pointlessness of splitting the page like that, IDW Barricade is based on WFC Barricade (not Movie Barricade), who IS based on Micromaster Barricade! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 11:31, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
:::ok.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:06, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
:::A few years late on this, i support separating the pages, but i want to point out that in no way is WFC Barricade based on G1 Micromaster Barricade, at all. WFC Barricade has shoulder wheels, a gunmetal grey-black color scheme, and kibble reminiscent of door wings, all three of those coming from the 2007 movie Barricade. WFC Barricade and Micromaster Barricade look absolutely nothing alike. The only vague similarity between the two in terms of appearance and characterization is that they're both Decepticons who turn into cars (Not even similar cars either, G1 Barricade turns into a dragster, WFC Barricade into a Cybertronian Police Cruiser). In addition, the IDW Barricade is used in a context referencing 2007 Movie Barricade, once again having nothing to do with the original G1 Barricade. [[User:Hollywood SN|Hollywood SN]] ([[User talk:Hollywood SN|talk]]) 03:49, 18 June 2017 (EDT)
::::WFC Barricade absolutely has G1 Barricade's head. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 04:52, 18 June 2017 (EDT)
:::::Only the general shape and detailings of helmet, but the face is still different, with individual eyes instead of a visor. [[User:Hollywood SN|Hollywood SN]] ([[User talk:Hollywood SN|talk]]) 14:31, 18 June 2017 (EDT)

Talk:Barricade (G1)

2017-06-18T07:51:30Z

Hollywood SN:

Talk:Barricade (G1)

2017-06-18T07:49:37Z

Hollywood SN:

His alternate mode might well be modelled after one of the early series McLaren MP4s, maybe an MP4/1B - the legs seem to be intended to represent the massive rear wings the cars were running with in 1984.

== IDW Micromasters ==

Barricade is yet another Gorlam Prime Micromaster reimagined as a Cybertronian. How do we want to incorporate both versions? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 12:38, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
:I'd be tempted to suggest putting the WFC-design Barricade at a new article. He isn't really a version of Micromaster Barricade in anything but name... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:29, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
::Haven't read ''[[The Transformers: Punishment|Punishment]]'' but yeah, if the Barricade there is not based on the Micromaster toy, then we've basically just got [[Talk:Dropshot (G1)|this argument]] again. "All the good names are taken", as Roberts says.
::Might have to be one of those weird Kre-O disambiguations like <nowiki>[[Starscream (Armada Kre-O)]]</nowiki>, though, since he's shouldn't be on either the Barricade (WFC) or Barricade (G1) pages. Barricade (IDW WFC)? Or maybe just Barricade (Punishment)? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 13:55, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
:::What about just Barricade (IDW), a la Goldbug and Buster? --[[User:Sockie|Sockie]] ([[User talk:Sockie|talk]]) 14:01, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
::::He's not the only Barricade in IDW, though -- the Micromaster Barricade appeared in ''[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]''. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 14:57, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
:::::IDW seems to be increasingly utilizing Micromasters as full-sized Transformer characters in their continuity. Barricade certainly isn't the first, and I doubt he'll be the last (he's just the first who doesn't have a Japanese version to be shunted into the Gorlam Prime spot). One solution would be to just no longer consider the Gorlam Prime Micromasters as being the same as the Transformers Micromasters and just create one page for all of them, but that seems like a bit of a nuclear option. Either way, I think this is an issue that goes beyond just Barricade and needs to be dealt with globally, rather than locally for each character. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 16:24, 26 June 2014 (EDT)
::::::The circumstances for each case ARE different, though:
::::::*[[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]] was a non-issue, because he didn't appear in ''[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]''.
::::::*[[Motorhead (Autobot)|Motorhead]] was unrecognizable as the Micromaster, and just assigned to Motorhead (Autobot).
::::::*[[Dropshot (G1)|Dropshot]] was represented by a toy body-type from the same continuity family, but different franchise, so Dropshot (Universe) got split from (G1).
::::::*Barricade, however, was represented by a body-type from a different continuity family and franchise, so he can't just be put on Barricade (WFC).
::::::*[[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]] was a testament to the Wiki's value: prior to [[Before & After|MTMTE #12]], his Fiction section was ''missing'' his appearance in ''[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]''.
::::::Whether to split the pages, how to split the pages, what disambiguations to use...these change from case to case. Short of ignoring the Gorlam Prime Micromasters altogether somehow, each IDW Micromaster-turned-Bulk needs to addressed individually for those reasons. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 16:50, 26 June 2014 (EDT)4

==Seperate==
Since IDW Full-sized Barricade is based on Movie Barricade and looks nothing like Micromaster Barricade, I say seperate.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 11:22, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 11:29, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
:: I mean, beyond the pointlessness of splitting the page like that, IDW Barricade is based on WFC Barricade (not Movie Barricade), who IS based on Micromaster Barricade! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 11:31, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
:::ok.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:06, 25 October 2015 (EDT)
:::A few years late on this, i support separating the pages, but i want to point out that in no way is WFC Barricade based on G1 Micromaster Barricade, at all. WFC Barricade has shoulder wheels, a gunmetal grey-black color scheme, and kibble reminiscent of door wings, all three of those coming from the 2007 movie Barricade. WFC Barricade and Micromaster Barricade look absolutely nothing alike. The only vague similarity between the two in terms of appearance and characterization is that they're both Decepticons who turn into cars. In addition, the IDW Barricade is used in a context referencing 2007 Movie Barricade, once again having nothing to do with the original G1 Barricade. [[User:Hollywood SN|Hollywood SN]] ([[User talk:Hollywood SN|talk]]) 03:49, 18 June 2017 (EDT)

User talk:Hollywood SN

2017-05-09T18:48:14Z

Hollywood SN: Created page with "'''''( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)'''''"

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Ultra Magnus (Movie)

2017-05-09T18:34:03Z

Hollywood SN:

{{factions|autobot|hofsilver}}
{{disambig3|Ultra Magnus}}
:''Ultra Magnus is an [[Autobot]] from the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''
{{faceless}}
'''Ultra Magnus''' exists, which is maybe just enough for him to deal with at the moment.

==Fiction==
===Titan movie comic===
[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] spoke of Ultra Magnus. {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Transformers Comic #12}}

==Notes==
* Ultra Magnus was used as an early working name for [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] for ''Dark of the Moon''.<ref>[http://tilallaremine.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/dark-of-the-moon-call-sheets/ Dark of the Moon Call Sheets! at Til All Are Mine blog.]</ref><ref>[http://www.joshnizzi.com/TF3.htm joshnizzi.com]</ref>

==References==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:European-original Transformers]]
[[Category:Hall of Fame characters]]
[[Category:Movie Autobots]]

Ultra Magnus (Movie)

2017-05-09T18:32:52Z

Hollywood SN: I get the impression fan mods arent canon, my dude.

{{factions|autobot|hofsilver}}
{{disambig3|Ultra Magnus}}
:''Ultra Magnus is an [[Autobot]] from the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''

'''Ultra Magnus''' exists, which is maybe just enough for him to deal with at the moment.

==Fiction==
===Titan movie comic===
[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] spoke of Ultra Magnus. {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 12|Transformers Comic #12}}

==Notes==
* Ultra Magnus was used as an early working name for [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] for ''Dark of the Moon''.<ref>[http://tilallaremine.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/dark-of-the-moon-call-sheets/ Dark of the Moon Call Sheets! at Til All Are Mine blog.]</ref><ref>[http://www.joshnizzi.com/TF3.htm joshnizzi.com]</ref>

==References==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:European-original Transformers]]
[[Category:Hall of Fame characters]]
[[Category:Movie Autobots]]