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Ratchet (Animated)

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:''Ratchet is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:AniRatchetPromoModel.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Rassa-frassa [[Sari Sumdac|KIDS]] with their [[Bumblebee (Animated)|loud music]] and their [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|rocket-powered axes]]...]]
Before the [[Great War (Animated)|Great Wars]], '''Ratchet''' was a [[Protihex Medical Mechanics University|civilian mechanic]], and one of the best on all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. But war is [[Pit|hell]], and Ratchet learned that all too well. It left him bitter and cynical. After the war, he got himself placed in a dead end position of repairing [[Space bridge|space bridges]], seeing it as a chance to get away from what he had experienced. And in his experience, "hero" is another word for casualty, because that's what most of the heroes ended up being. Still, he knows one when he sees it, and [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] definitely is one.

His main "weapons" are two electromagnets that can extend from his forearms. With them, he can move metal-based objects, levitate downward from high heights, manipulate or tear apart metallic objects in midair, or create magnetic shields. More recently, he won his [[electromagnetic pulse]] generator back from [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] the bounty hunter, a device capable of knocking out a [[Transformer]].

He enjoys grumbling about almost everything, being sarcastic, and having war flashbacks, just like any old man.

But he's not [[Kup (G1)|Kup]].

Honestly.

{{quote|Young bots—can't live with 'em, can't melt 'em down for spare parts.|Ratchet, grumbling and moaning|"[[Transform and Roll Out]]"}}

{{quote|You're a ''tough'' old model, aren't you?|[[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] shows his grudging respect|"[[This Is Why I Hate Machines]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
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:''Voice actor:'' [[Corey Burton]] (English), [[Tōru Ōkawa]] (Japanese), [[Horst Lampe]] (German), [[Dariusz Stach]] (Polish), [[Sidney Lilla]] (Portuguese)

[[Image:BotsofScience-RatchetOilslick.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Millions of years ago, knee-insignia were all the rage.]]
''Millions of years ago, Ratchet arrived at [[Hydrax Plateau]] looking for survivors of a Decepticon chemical attack, which had slaughtered soldiers from both sides. The only survivor was a Decepticon named [[Oil Slick (Animated)|Oil Slick]]. Against orders, Ratchet tried to save his life. Oil Slick, however, revealed he had the formula for an antidote to the chemical, known to the grunts as "[[Cosmic Rust (disease)|cosmic rust"]], but he lacked the equipment to create it. Ratchet warily agreed to help, and as they worked, tried to learn a little bit more about who was fighting. Once the cure was complete, Ratchet used it on Oil Slick, who promptly revealed he had created the cosmic rust, didn't care if his own soldiers got killed, and infected Ratchet before driving off. However, Ratchet had managed to snag some of the antidote, so he used a little on himself and took the rest back to headquarters for mass production, regretfully realizing he'd learned a little bit about a good deception that day.'' {{storylink|The Arrival issue 3#"'Bots_of_Science"|'Bots of Science}}

[[Image:Ratchetanimatedthrill.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Before the gut.]]
Some time later, Ratchet was sent by [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] on a wartime mission to recover Autobot intelligence officer [[Arcee (Animated)|Arcee]], who was carrying important security codes in her memory core. Shortly after he found her, the pair were captured by the [[Decepticon]]-affiliated bounty hunter [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]]. The hunter made a habit of collecting the powers of defeated enemies as trophies and did so with Ratchet's medical EMP device. Before he could attach it, Arcee was able to pass the device to Ratchet, and she begged him to use it on her to wipe the codes and preserve their safety. In the ensuing skirmish with Lockdown, the device accidentally produced a wider blast, erasing Arcee's entire memory. Ratchet would have flashbacks of the incident for centuries to come. {{storylink|The Thrill of the Hunt}}

[[Image:TransWarped-youngRatchetArcee.jpg|left|thumb|250px|In your heeeeeaad, in your heeeeead, zombie zombie zombie-ee-ee...]]

At a certain point, Ratchet was ordered by Ultra Magnus to perform open processor surgery on Arcee to retrieve the access codes. As the operation began, Arcee uploaded the codes into Ratchet's processor, so he was conducted to a secret hangar and introduced to Project Omega a.k.a., Omega Supreme. Perceptor, along with Highbrow and Ultra Magnus, explained that Omega was the Autobots' last line of defense against the Decepticons and that the codes that Arcee was carrying were for Omega's activation. Arcee was supposed to be Omega's mentor to imprint upon and take orders from, but now Ratchet had inherited her role. Hearing that Omega had been built with a simple processor in order to carry out his duties with no remorse, Ratchet refused to teach him to be a weapon of mass destruction and instead tried to instruct him to be an Autobot.

[[Image:TransWarped-Ratchetaltmode.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Ratchet's older than the wheel.]]

Upon winning the Great War against a massive Decepticon onslaught, Omega was damaged extensively and at risk of losing his Spark. Ratchet was able to put him into a modified stasis until he could repair the giant. Before going into stasis, Omega questioned how he could be an Autobot but destroy like a Decepticon. The best assurance Ratchet could offer was, "We do what we must, even though sometimes it doesn't make sense," and he coaxed the giant Autobot to rest. {{storylink|TransWarped}} Ratchet stayed with Omega after he'd been repurposed as a space bridge repair vessel. {{storylink|Endgame, Part I}}

During a routine repair assignment with Optimus Prime's crew, Ratchet was with the group when they found the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]]. His first reaction upon seeing it was to urge the others to throw it through the space bridge. However, events soon overtook them when [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] arrived and tried to claim the AllSpark. The Autobots took their ship through the space bridge, where Prime defeated Megatron, and the crew was forced to go into stasis to avoid injury in a crash-landing on [[Earth]].

Awakening fifty years later, the Autobots went to help battle a renegade nanomachine construct, while Ratchet studied a specimen of the construct on the ship. Learning that it was vulnerable in its command centers, Ratchet sent a kill program to the Autobots to place in the monster. His program worked.

Ratchet had the most difficulty getting used to Earth's customs, as the humans kept interrupting his stasis naps to put parking tickets on him. {{storylink|Transform and Roll Out}} To make things more complicated, those annoying camera bots followed the Autobots everywhere. Always watching, waiting... {{storylink|Home Is Where the Spark Is}}

[[Image:TFA Thrill Hunt Ratchet Lockdown reunion.JPG|left|thumb|300px|Duh-nananana... waw ''waw'' waw.]]

To Ratchet's horrified disbelief, Lockdown appeared on Earth and captured Optimus Prime, intending to hand him over to the vengeful remaining Decepticons for the bounty offered against him. The Autobots attempted a rescue, with Ratchet initially absent due to haunting flashbacks over his last encounter with the bounty hunter. He was forced to intervene after Lockdown eliminated [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]], [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] and [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]]. Ratchet was able to free his commanding officer and retrieve his EMP device, using it to send [[Death's Head (Animated)|Lockdown's ship]] crashing back to Earth. After reinstalling Prime's stolen gadgets, the veteran finally opened up to the younger soldier. {{storylink|The Thrill of the Hunt}}

When the Decepticons [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] and [[Lugnut]] arrived on Earth, the Autobots were quickly bested by the duo. Prime realized that the AllSpark was no longer safe on the planet and decided that they should leave Earth and return to Cybertron. [[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] was not pleased by this, but Ratchet's response was a gruff, "Grow up". When Optimus asked Sari to help, Ratchet was displeased with the thought of working with a "[[protoform]]", but Optimus silenced them by making it an order. Once aboard the Autobots' ship, Sari accidentally opened an airlock, nearly flooding the hold, then admitted that she had tried to sabotage the ship, not wanting them to leave. In a moment of empathy, Ratchet told her the Autobots didn't want to leave either, but they had to, or else the Decepticons would wipe out the humans, including Sari, and Ratchet couldn't live with himself if that happened. With the help of a now-willing Sari, Ratchet brought the ship's weapons back online, defeating Lugnut and Blitzwing. {{storylink|Lost and Found (episode)|Lost and Found}}

[[Image:Megatron Rising 1 Ratchet Blitzwing Key.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Hey! I'm still using that!]]
After receiving a report on increased Decepticon activity from [[Teletran-1]], Optimus ordered Ratchet to remove the [[AllSpark Key]] from Sari's possession forcibly, as it was no longer safe in the hands of a [[Human|dumb stubby]]. Ratchet was hesitant to take the object from the girl, but followed his superior's orders with a gruff, professional "Yessir." After Sari fled the base in tears, Optimus then told Ratchet to take the Key to the Autobots' ship, under [[Lake Erie]], in order to protect the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]] from the Decepticons. Unfortunately, the medibot was intercepted by Blitzwing and Lugnut, who demanded that he hand over the Key. He stoically refused, challenging them to take it from his "cold, offline servo." Icy Blitzwing complied by blasting Ratchet and the surrounding scenery with an ice beam. He switched to Random Blitzwing, made a smart remark, and wrenched the Key (and the arm holding it) from Ratchet.

Despite this handicap, the mechanic was able to break free from his icy prison, report the AllSpark Key's theft to Optimus, single-handedly bring the ship online (pun intended), and still participate later in the [[Megatron Rising - Part 2|final battle]] against [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] and his forces. {{storylink|Megatron Rising - Part 1}}

[[Image:Wreck-garisgoodforonlyonething.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Wreck-Gar wouldn't get off his lawn.]]

While helping to dispose of garbage in the city, Ratchet's crotchety attitude became such a problem that Optimus asked Sari and Bumblebee to help him work on developing a more positive attitude. His experience in helping a [[Spike Witwicky (Animated)|young]] [[Carly Witwicky (Animated)|couple]] who were in the process of making a protoform did not help with his attitude, and things got even worse when some trash-toting nuisance named [[Wreck-Gar (Animated)|Wreck-Gar]] came along, spouting that he was an Autobot. Telling the newly sentient [[Transformer]] that he was only good for garbage, Ratchet unwittingly inspired him to deliver garbage to the people of Detroit. Unfortunately, Wreck-Gar also had a sample of [[Sumdac Systems]]' new and improved nanobots, designed to disintegrate garbage. Fearing what the AllSpark-infused nanites might do, Ratchet apologized to Wreck-Gar, saying that the befuddled newcomer could be whatever he wanted, including a hero. Wreck-Gar did become a hero—after he vacuumed up the microbots, they exploded, causing Wreck-Gar to fall into the river. Ratchet assumed he was dead. When [[Porter C. Powell]] said that Ratchet had ruined his presentation, Ratchet forced him and [[Augustus Edsel|Mayor Edsel]] to make a compromise by threatening to have them join Wreck-Gar in the river. They came to an agreement, and Ratchet assumed that the bystanders were cheering for him, leaving him with the assumption that he ''did'' have people skills. {{storylink|Garbage In, Garbage Out}}

When there are reports of rampages coming from Dinobot Island, Ratchet loans Prowl his EMP Generator as a just-incase measure. When Prowl discovers that a spike is wedged into [[Grimlock (Animated) |Grimlock]]'s foot, Ratchet instructs him on how to use the EMP to remove it. Later, when Prowl decides to go off on his own after Starscream, Ratchet, along with Prime, tells him to turn his shutttle around, but Prowl gets rid of them through fake-static (which Ratchet thought was less-conivincing than Bumblebee's). Later, the Autobots manage to find Prowl (now equipped with his Samurai armor) tied up in the middle of the street, and manage to free him. Ratchet them states that this whole mess was his fault, as he was the one who loaned Prowl the EMP. The Autobots then come across Clone [[#2716057 (Animated) |#2716057]], who tries to propose an alliance with them, but Prowl easily rejects the alliance and attacks the clone. During the fight, Prowl accidentally destroys a bird's nest, which snaps him back to reality, and causes him to realize that he doesn't need the armor, but he won't get rid of it until he captures Clone [[#3370318 (Animated) |#3370318]]. Ratchet then witnesses the revealation that the Starscream clones are armed with bombs, and also witnesses Prowl use his armor to launch the clones into the sky (Right into the flight path of the Decepticons). {{storylink|A Fistful of Energon}}

When Bulkhead was kidnapped by Megatron, Bumblebee brought Autobot intelligence agent [[Blurr (Animated)|Blurr]] to the plant, who revealed that Megatron was building a space bridge to conquer Cybertron from within. Realizing they'd need more firepower, Prime ordered Ratchet and Sari to get the ship operational. Unfortunately, their efforts failed to get it back online. Running out of time, Ratchet decided that they'd need to perform open [[spark]] surgery. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part I}}

After placing the remaining AllSpark fragments in the ship's spark core, Ratchet explained that the ship was once a living Autobot who sacrificed himself to help win the wars. Ratchet's gamble succeeded, and the ship was brought back to life. Getting it to the Decepticons' base, Ratchet and Sari provided enough power (and encouragement) to allow the ship to transform into [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]]. Omega defeated the Decepticons, but sacrificed himself to save the Autobots by being sucked into a blind space bridge portal. Once the Autobots escaped, Ratchet was left to mourn Omega Supreme a second time, but Bulkhead was optimistic that he was still alive, somewhere out in space.

Unfortunately, any effort to locate Omega Supreme was put on hold when Sari noticed that the skin of her right arm had been torn...revealing robotic circuitry underneath! {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part II}}

[[Image:TFAni TransWarped Ratchet Repairs Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Well, if the patient really wants to live, the surgeon never can do anything about it!]]
Because Sari was reluctant to submit to a full diagnostic, Ratchet was only allowed to perform the most basic scans on her. He was able to determine that Sari was part basically organic, but with Cybertronian circuitry. Following a period of no contact with Bulkhead and Bumblebee, who had traveled to the mine to salvage space bridge equipment to contact Cybertron, Ratchet went to check up and help them out. What he found was a damaged Bulkhead and no sign of Bumblebee. Bringing Bulkhead back to the plant, he then attempted to repair Bulkhead, only to have Sari's Key overshadow his medical expertise, leaving him feeling unappreciated. Soon afterward, a giant [[rock creature]] was transported to Detroit after Bulkhead tried to bring back a transwarping Bumblebee. Ratchet equipped his EMP generator, which he hadn't used since he won it back from Lockdown, to help his team take down the creature and rescue Bumblebee, only to witness a newly upgraded Sari defeat the monster and save her friend instead. However, the Key's power overwhelmed Sari and caused her robotic systems to go berserk, blowing up everything she touched and even accidentally attacking Bumblebee. Ratchet initially requested Sari's Key to help him save Bumblebee, but discovered it no longer had any power after Prowl retrieved it. Despite the setback, he managed to save Bumblebee from going offline without the Key's aid. When the others failed their attempts to stop Sari from exploding and save Detroit, Ratchet used his EMP generator to subdue her, even though he was unsure what the effects would have on a technorganic.

Afterward, he operated on Sari to subdue the extra AllSpark energy she had stored in her body. When Omega Supreme reappeared on Earth, Ratchet was shocked to discover that his old friend had been taken over by Starscream and Megatron. Forced to take action, Ratchet upgraded Bumblebee's stingers to a more powerful battle-grade mode, even though such a modification was illegal for non-combat bots. When Optimus ordered Ratchet to reverse Sari's operation in order to use her AllSpark energy against Omega Supreme, Ratchet refused and instead aided his teammates directly in the heat of battle. He tried reasoning with Omega to help the titan gain control of his body, but was afraid that he might have to use his EMP on his old friend. Omega was able to fight off Starscream's control long enough to insist that Ratchet use the EMP to let him sleep again, echoing Ratchet's own advice from the last time the medic had put him in stasis. However, despite Ratchet's new resolve, Starscream's Allspark-fragment-powered consciousness rendered him immune to the blast. Once Bumblebee and Optimus planted a plasma dynamic thruster to make Omega transwarp around space randomly, Ratchet saved the pair from falling to their deaths.
{{storylink|TransWarped}}

Later, when Wasp arrives on Earth, and attacks Bumblebee in the plant, Ratchet witnesses Bumblebee (now colored like Wasp) wake up from the attack. Bumnblebee tries (and fails) to convince the Autobots that it's him, and when he fails, Ratchet prepares to arrest him. Just then, Bumblebee escapes, and the Elite Guard arrive, and make it very clear that they're going to arrest Wasp. Optimus assigns Ratchet to go with him and find Wasp, and while looking for him, they come across [[Jetfire (Animated) |Jetfire]] and [[Jetstorm (Animated) |Jetstorm]], who are also going after Wasp. Prime & Ratchet manage to track them to a dark alley, where they attack them. Their fight is ultimately seized by [[Sentinel Prime (Animated) |Sentinel Prime]], who tells them that Jetfire & Jetstorm are flying Autobots. Ratchet then proceeds to follow Sentinel, [[Jazz (Animated) |Jazz]], and Prime around the city, and responds to Jetstorm's call claiming that Bulkhead and Prowl are Wasp's "fellow-double-agents". Ratchet then witnesses the video-game face-off between Bumblebee(Wasp) and Wasp(Bumblebee) to determine who's who, and also witnesses Wasp threaten Bumblebee's life. When Wasp escapes, Ratchet is one of the many Autobots to run outside, but they find that Bumblebee is now the right colors again, and he also witnesses Sentinel finally accept [[Shockwave (Animated) |Longarm Prime]] is the REAL Decepticon traitor. {{storylink|Where Is Thy Sting?}}

On Christmas Eve, Ratchet was seriously doubting that Santa could deliver billions of presents in just one night, but Sari told him not to worry about it. Later, after drinking oil nog that Sari had made (which was altered by one of Soundwave's toys), Ratchet, along with the rest of the Autobots, suddenly felt very tired, and Ratchet was the first one to head off for a stasis-nap. What was even more mysterious was that, the next morning, the Autobots discover that they had been transformed into humans, and there was no rationale explaination as to why. When Prime suggested that their minds had been implanted into the human bodies, Ratchet questioned where their Cybertronian bodies were. The Autobots then headed off to Sumdac Tower, and while they decided to stop at Burger-Bot for a bite to eat, they hear a noise outside, which turned out to be a Decepticon attack. Ratchet helped Optimus Prime get a woman out of a burning building, but was useless in trying to ward off Starscream, and when Optimus Prime's leg is broken, Ratchet is forced to help get him to a paramedic. The Autobots eventually get to Sumdac Tower (via City Bus), but when they get there, they look up and see none other than...CYBERTRON! Not only that, but after the planet settles, Decepticons begin to swarm from the planet, and Bulkhead states that this can't be happening. Just then, Prime & Prowl figure out that none of it is happening, and that everything was fake, including the Deceptions. When they figure this out, the Autobots discover that they can slag the Decepticons, and that's exactly what they do. After they've defeated the Decepticons, the Autobots manage to transform back into their Cybertronian forms, but just after that, they're attacked by a giant Soundwave. {{storylink|Human Error, Part I}}

After managing to escape the giant Soundwave, the Autobots are transformed back into hmans, much to Ratchet's annoyance. When Bulkhead tries to escape the virtual reality by trashing the virtual city, Ratchet tells him it doesn't work that way, and that they needed to find Soundwave's interface, which just conviently turned up at that point. The Autobots decide to follow the vehicle (driving their respective vehicle modes) but they learn that driving isn't as easy as it loks. Ratchet though disagrees, but he's actually driving backwards (Nice one, Ratchet!). The Autobots evntually corner the vehicle in a drive-in movie-theater parking-lot, but soon learn that htey were lured into a trap, and are successfully reprogramed by Soundwave.Ratchet's body later went up against Snarl, who defeated him by wrapping him up, immobilizing him. Ratchet later joined the Autobots in standing around and watching the Disposal Droids (and Wreck-Gar) clean up the city. {{storylink|Human Error, Part II}}

Later, as Ratchet attempted to calibrate Bulkhead's space bridge to locate Omega Supreme, the bridge powered up and sucked in a visiting [[Carmine Fanzone|Captain Fanzone]]. Seeing a potential problem in this turn of events, Ratchet followed him into the bridge and found himself back on Cybertron. At first overjoyed to be back home, Ratchet's mood soon soured when he discovered that his favorite watering hole, [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]], had been shut down, a victim of the paranoid reign of [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]], who had been placed in charge of the planet following the near-fatal attack on Ultra Magnus by the Decepticon deep-cover agent, [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]]. Just as Sentinel was in the middle of reprimanding Ratchet for bringing Fanzone to the planet, however, Omega Supreme made a sudden appearance in the skies overhead, his body now under the control of Megatron once more. Ratchet's refusal to support Sentinel's plan simply to blast Omega out of the sky left him branded a traitor, and he and Fanzone fled into Cybertron's underground tunnels, where they stumbled upon Shockwave's hideout. In the course of the brief battle that ensued, Ratchet discovered that Shockwave was in search of Arcee, intending to use the activation codes for Omega Supreme stored in her processor to wipe clean his mind and put all of his systems in Megatron's hands. With a little help from [[Jazz (Animated)|Jazz]], Ratchet and Fanzone were able to get to Arcee first, but alas, in the process, they unwittingly wound up leading Shockwave right to her. The pair battled again, and although Ratchet was able to recover Ultra Magnus's stolen [[Magnus Hammer]] from the Decepticon, he failed to prevent Shockwave from escaping with Arcee in his clutches. Despite Sentinel Prime's protestations, Ratchet brought the Magnus Hammer with him back to Earth. {{storylink|This Is Why I Hate Machines}}.

Upon the discovery that Megatron has control of Omega Supreme, Ratchet begins to stress the fact that they need to rescue him and Arcee from the Decepticons, and that they need to use the Magnus Hammer to aid them in doing so. He is shocked when Prime asks him to build him a jetpack, stating that Autobots don't fly (He seems to have forgotten that HIS BEST FRIEND (Omega Supreme) FLIES). Though hesitant, Ratchet, along with Sari and Prof. Sumdac, proceed to build Prime a jetpack that he can use to go up against Megatron. After the failure of the initial test of the jetpack, Ratchet adds stabilizer wings to it, which gives Prime control when he's flying. Unfortunately, the flying Optimus Prime attracted the attention of [[Slipstream (Animated) |Slipstream]] ,who proceeds to shoot Prime out of the sky. Ratchet then simply repairs Prime, and just in time, as just then, the [[Lugnut Supreme]]s arrive on Earth {{storylink|Endgame, Part I}}

Ratchet was sent to the moon with Bumblebee, Bulkhead, and Sari to take back Omega Supreme to stop the Lugnut Supreme drones. With advice from Sari, he was able to reactivate Arcee and in turn able to take control of Omega Supreme. After Starscream's plan came into action, he took Omega Supreme in to try and stop the "Starscream Supremes" from self-destructing, successfully taking down one but unable to take down the other. He was present with Optimus Prime on their return to Cybertron with the Decepticon prisoners, holding Prowl's casket with Bumblebee, Bulkhead, and Jazz.
{{storylink|Endgame, Part II}}

===''Be the Hero'' books===
====''Web of Deception''====
Ratchet and Optimus were in the Autobot ship at the bottom of Lake Erie when it was struck by a number of [[Sparkseeker]] missiles and Prime abducted. Once he recovered, Ratchet was able to detect Lockdown's ship parked near [[Dinobot Island (Animated)|Dinobot Island]]. While the other younger bots went to rescue Prime, Ratchet stayed on board the ship and eventually detected the holotransmitter that [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] was using. He was able to track it back to its source and rescue Prime. {{storylink|Web of Deception}}
====''Time-Quake''====
When strange time effects began taking place across Detroit, Ratchet made special detectors to trace the source of the temporal energy. After Bulkhead and a human discovered the time machine that was causing the odd effects, Ratchet assisted in taking down the perpetrator. {{storylink|Time-Quake}}

===Titan Magazines===
He was the only person to realise the earthquakes plaguing Detroit couldn't be natural as it wasn't on a fault-line. He got to zap the villain responsible, [[Quake-Maker]], once everyone else had done all the hard work. {{storylink|Burnout}}

Ratchet oversaw a mission to Dinobot Island with Sari, Bumblebee and [[Afterburn]], to investigate a Rage virus infection in the Dinobots. Soon after landing, the group were jumped by [[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]] and Ratchet was soon pinned; luckily, Sari reminded him of the magnetic powers he uses all the time, and he was able to get Snarl off.

The Dinobot had stolen his spare oil thermos in the process though and, wanting to see if Afterburn was really up to joining them, lied to his friends and told them a vital component had been ripped out and ''he was dying''. They risked their lives getting the thermos back on top of curing the Dinobots, and after hearing why they'd been made to do it, Afterburn shook Ratchet's hand for being an emotionally manipulative bastard. {{storylink|Ratchet & Grimlock Are DEAD?|Ratchet & Grimlock Are DEAD?}}

==Toys==
===Animated===
[[Image:Ratchetanimatedeluxe.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Gut doesn't fold down as well as it used to...]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-04'''
**''Accessories'': Hammer, wrench, screwdriver, can opener

: First shipping in Wave 2, Ratchet transforms into a stylized ambulance. In robot mode, his "magnets" are simulated by spring-loaded pieces in the underside of his forearms that flip up through his open hands. He also features a veritable arsenal of fixit tools that attach to the undeployed magnets to simulate him holding them, so you too can experience the glee of having the old coot savagely beat someone with a servo-wrench. These tools can store in his backpack in robot mode, but cannot be stored in his vehicle mode.

: The "war wound" on his left forearm is actually a socket into which one may peg the EMP generator included with the deluxe [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] toy. Early releases of the Ratchet toy had the peg slightly too long, forcing the EMP to pop out of the socket. Later releases (basically most everything beyond the original "test market" release) had a shorter peg, allowing the EMP to clip in just fine.

: The original instruction sheet for this toy has an error in step 5, where it depicted the front wheels as staying immobile (i.e., the visible wheel isn't tinted orange), whereas in fact they are part of the front bumper assembly, and swing back in that step along with the bumper.

: This toy would later be [[redeco]]ed to make [[Ratchet (Animated)#Rescue|Rescue Ratchet]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/Ratchet/ratchet.htm More information on Deluxe Ratchet at TFU.info]''

*'''Cybertron Mode Ratchet''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Accessories'': Two shock paddles
[[Image:Animatedtoy-RatchetCybertronMode.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Just take the slaggin' EMP, Lockdown. It doesn't stay in anyway.]]

: Cybertron Mode Ratchet is an entirely new mold based upon his pre-Earth form seen in many flashbacks, particularly when he was younger. (Lockdown's EMP weapon is required to complete the look, though it doesn't stay in very well.) He comes with two "shock paddles" which peg over his fists, and his right fist punches forward when a tab on his elbow is pushed. The "shock paddles" plug into the rear of his vehicle mode.

: Cybertron Mode Ratchet is exclusive to Toys"R"Us, along with Arcee.

: The sprues for this mold included heads for both Ratchet and [[Ironhide (Animated)|Ironhide]], a later release in a new deco.

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[[Image:BumperBattlers Ratchet toy.JPG|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Bumper Battlers, 2008)

: An even ''more'' simplified version of Ratchet, the [[Bumper Battlers]] version also features a spring-loaded transformation from ambulance to robot. However, in this instance, when the front bumper of the ambulance mode is pushed in, the spring-loaded roof/sides of the vehicle flip up to reveal a relief of Ratchet's robot mode (complete with magnet-clamps), as well as activating electronic sound effects.

: Pressing his Autobot sigil activates numerous randomly-selected sound effects and original voice samples, including a very disturbing laugh.

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*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (McDonald's Happy Meal Toy, 2008)
**''McNumber'': ??

: A simple version of Ratchet with a very simple transformation sequence, this toy was (naturally) part of the McDonald's ''Transformers Animated'' Happy Meal promotion.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/McRatchet/ratchet.htm More information on McDonald's Ratchet at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:Ratchetanimatedactivators.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The Grampulance.]]
*'''Autobot Ratchet''' (Activators, 2008)

: A smaller, simpler version of Ratchet, the [[Activators]] Ratchet toy has a spring-loaded [[autotransformation]] [[gimmick]] that springs him from ambulance mode to robot mode in one easy step.

: Pre-release samples of the toy (used for the stock photography seen on the packaging and in online solicitations) show Activators Ratchet to have an unbroken right crest on his head, contrary to his [[character model]]. The final released version of the toy has the broken crest as he should.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/ActRatchet/ratchet.htm More information on Activators Ratchet at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:Animated-toy_RescueRatchet.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Lemony-fresh goodness!]]
*'''Rescue Ratchet''' (Multi-pack, 2008)
**''Accessories'': Hammer, wrench, screwdriver, can opener

: A Target-[[exclusive]] [[redeco]] of Deluxe Ratchet in a yellow and light gray. The photo of the toy on the back of the packaging shows a fairly obvious [[homage]] to the [[Movie (franchise)|live-action movie]] incarnation of [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], with bright green instead of yellow and movie-inspired zig-zagged stripes, but the toy-as-released is in yellow, using the same tampos as the original ''Animated'' deluxe. He comes in a set with two [[Legends Class|Legends-class]] figures, [[Prowl (Animated)#RescueRatchet|Prowl]] and [[Starscream (Animated)#RescueRatchet|Starscream]]. He retains all of his original toy's [[Gimmick|gimmickry]], and features metallic paint on his front bumper. The hinged clip portion of his tools are cast in the same color plastic as he is, to prevent accessory cross-contamination with the original deluxe toy.

: His "magnets" are ''also'' cast in the same yellow plastic, making him look like an aye-aye.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/RescueRatchet/ratchet.htm More information on Rescue Ratchet at TFU.info]''

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*'''Sunstorm VS Autobot Ratchet''' (multipack, 2009)

: Activators Ratchet was packaged with Voyager [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]] in a Target-exclusive multipack. There are no notable differences between this and the original individual release of the toy.

==Trivia==
* The Autobot medical officer was originally conceived as a female robot named [[Red Alert (Animated)|Red Alert]].[http://tformers.com/transformers-interview-transformers-animated/8992/news.html] Even after it was decided to make the character male later in development, he retained the name "Red Alert" until executive producer [[Sam Register]] was able to convince Hasbro that "Ratchet" was a more identifable name for the character. Because of this, Ratchet's final design carries influences from various [[Red Alert (disambiguation)|Red Alert]] incarnations. In particular, [[Derrick J. Wyatt|Derrick Wyatt]] was inspired by the box art for [[Red Alert (G1)|G1 Red Alert]]'s ''[[:Image:BTAAlert toy.jpg|Binaltech Asterisk]]'' incarnation. [http://community.livejournal.com/tf_animated/271043.html#cutid1]
* The "war wound" on his left arm (seen in his main picture, above) was briefly gone after "The Thrill of the Hunt", apparently representing the replacement of his arm-mounted EMP generator. However, it has since returned in several instances. The "real world" reason is probably the animators sticking to the original animation model. Within story context, he apparently didn't carry the EMP generator around as standard until "[[TransWarped]]", when Prowl (who borrowed it [[A Fistful of Energon|once before]]) notes that he hadn't "taken it into battle since [he] got it back from Lockdown." It later emerges ''from'' the wound in "[[Endgame, Part II]]".
* There is a potential contradiction between "[[The Thrill of the Hunt]]" and "[['Bots of Science]]", as both stories depict Ratchet's right-hand chevron being broken off - by Lockdown's haymaker in the former and Oil Slick's roundhouse in the latter. This could be a continuity error, or it could be the case that Ratchet had his chevron broken on one occasion, repaired it, and then after it was broken a ''second'' time he allowed it to remain broken. It would certainly appear that the comic story took place before the Lockdown encounter, since Ratchet still has his EMP generator in ''Bots of Science''. Curiously though, Ratchet's chevron is shown to already have some kind of crack or weld-line running across it prior to Oil Slick's kick, which could indicate that it was already on the verge of breaking.
* The toys of ''Animated'' Ratchet, [[Ratchet (G1)|Generation 1 Ratchet]] and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Movie Ratchet]] are caught in a web of cross-referencing [[Redeco|redecos]]:
** In 2008, the original Generation 1 Ratchet mold got a green redeco as "Ratchet Emergency Green" in obvious reference to his yellowy-green [[Ratchet (Movie)|movie cousin]].
** About the same time, two of movie Ratchet's toys got a red and white ambulance redeco as "Rescue Ratchet" to ape [[Ratchet (G1)|Generation 1 Ratchet]].
** ''Animated'' Ratchet, his original design already referencing both predecessors with Generation 1 Ratchet's chevron and coloring and movie Ratchet's squiggly EEG symbol, had a further homage to the latter with a yellow redeco as (another) "Rescue Ratchet". You'd think they'd all be too busy patching up wounded 'bots to get so much personal detailing done.
* He can pinch with his magnet-clamps.
* He has microscope lenses which can be activated in either eye.
* His windshield chest can act as an image projector in robot mode.{{storylink|This Is Why I Hate Machines}}
* In the Japanese dub, he apparently speaks with a [[Wikipedia:Kagoshima|Kagoshima]] dialect.
* Seriously, he's not [[Kup (G1)|Kup]].

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/Ratchet/ratchet.htm Ratchet at TFU.info]

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Animated characters]]
[[Category:Medics]]
[[Category:Elderly Transformers]]
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Talk:Main Page

2010-05-10T02:56:17Z

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==WHA'PPEN?==

So...what on Earth has happened to the TFWiki? Also, for some reason the old Wikia seems to have gained all of the articles that are now missing from here. (Such as the Season 3 animated stuff)
:Seems to me that we've reverted to a June 2008 version of the database which could be really bad news. Some of my articles [[Macabre]] for example are at the old site but not here, which would make sense since I wrote it in September 2008 before we moved here. I don't even have a login here anymore - Emvee :( [[Special:Contributions/77.102.92.218|77.102.92.218]] 19:31, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::Looks like our brain-damaged friend is back again.
:::There's some more info on the [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=51208&view=findpost&p=1155749 wiki thread in the Allspark forums]. Looks like an upgrade handled very very sloppily. I'm hoping once they restore the old database it'll overwrite the changes made in the interim, seeing as how our favorite Idiot Vandal With No Life is on a rampage. (Sigh.) Wiping out his stupid crap in one go would be priceless. (This is Jeysie, BTW.) --[[Special:Contributions/72.79.219.120|72.79.219.120]] 19:41, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::::Thank Primus. I was worried someone had hacked in and deleted the database. The thought of 6 months work lost filled me with dread. --abates 19:46, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::Ditto. Dread all round here too. Good to know it's in hand. --Emvee [[Special:Contributions/77.102.92.218|77.102.92.218]] 19:48, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::::::You know... assuming it does get overwritten so we don't have to worry about undoing it, watching our pet vandal complain about how the wiki malfunctioning prevents him from vandalizing properly is one of the most morbidly hilarious things I've seen in a while. -Jeysie --[[Special:Contributions/72.79.219.120|72.79.219.120]] 20:07, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Don't I know it, I was just having a laugh at that with the other half :) --Emvee [[Special:Contributions/77.102.92.218|77.102.92.218]] 20:16, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::You know, there are some benefits about this. On the one hand, people don't have to worry about being spoiled about TransWarped. On the other, we get to see Assaulthead self-destruct in rage as he can't vandalize the wiki. However, there is one concern: What if they can't retrieve the lost information? -- (SFH) [[Special:Contributions/67.164.210.225|67.164.210.225]] 20:11, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::::::I'm assuming that Bookworm made a database backup before he started work. Should be fairly simple to upload it again. Which means this conversation never happened. --Emvee [[Special:Contributions/77.102.92.218|77.102.92.218]] 20:16, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::::::I've decided I don't want to think about what happens if he didn't. (Realistically about all we could do is a crapload of trawling through Google's cache, but even then we'd pretty much be seriously hosed.) --Jeysie [[Special:Contributions/72.79.219.120|72.79.219.120]] 20:18, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::::::I didn't spot this thread until right after emailing Suki and Walky (one knows the code well, the other is right by the servers) about the situation (though I figure they already know), as I thought it might have been Assaulthead showing a heretofore hidden hacking genius. (Hey, if Bulkhead can be a space bridge genius...) I hope to heck we don't lose all those months of work. Someone really needs to work on that update process... --Apcog [[Special:Contributions/99.158.0.251|99.158.0.251]] 20:21, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::It would be a real pain if all that work was lost. I hope it's not. How long would it take to get everything back up again? --Tribor

Guys, stop worrying and check out the community portal talk page. That's been restored and its last post was only a couple of days ago. Unless that's the ''only'' page on the enitire wiki that was backed-up, the most that could maybe have been lost is a couple of days' worth. (Okay, as soon as I wrote this, that page got fucked up, too.) The main thing to think about is first-time visitors seeing the site like this. - Magnus Maximus
:I just find it sad that the only person who can log in (with multiple usernames, it seems) is the guy with the (so imaginative) gift for profanity. --Emvee [[Special:Contributions/77.102.92.218|77.102.92.218]] 20:49, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::That's only because he keeps making new accounts every time he shows up, since we keep blocking the old ones.--Apcog [[Special:Contributions/72.48.68.223|72.48.68.223]] 00:15, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

What worries me, is... why is the database even that far back? Even if we somehow lost everything, we should at least be stuck in how the wiki looked when we first arrived, but we've been rolled almost three months before that. (The last edits in the histories all seem to be mid-June 2008, but didn't we move here in mid-September 2008?) --Jeysie [[Special:Contributions/72.79.219.120|72.79.219.120]] 21:02, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
: Yeah, but IIRC we moved in with an older backup and ended up losing a little bit of stuff? -hx [[Special:Contributions/24.30.97.198|24.30.97.198]] 21:14, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::Only a few weeks at most, though, IIRC, not three months' worth. (Not that it really matters if we did lose everything, it just makes me even more worried that this backup/upgrade wasn't done right.) --Jeysie [[Special:Contributions/72.79.219.120|72.79.219.120]] 21:24, 15 March 2009 (EDT)

:::I just don't uderstand why there wasn't a working failsafe in case something like this happened. I mean come on have you ever heard of an SD card or floppy disk? --E-Bot
Somebody set up us the bomb. --Interrobang 21:26, 15 March 2009 (EDT)

Straight up! I agree, it dosesn't make any sense Dawg. Yo but you know i'm still concerned if something like this could happen again, and if the damage could much more worse than it is now. --The Man 21:19, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::::There had been discussion for several months about creating a proper back-up system.
::::No one really thought it was important. *eyeroll* -[[Special:Contributions/207.224.69.82|207.224.69.82]] 23:00, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::I had a look at the page for exporting the database a week or so ago but couldn't work out how to make it give me any data. I kinda wish I'd stuck at it now. Oh well, I'm just hanging out for some sort of official word on what's happening now... --abates 23:09, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::::::Who are we gonna get the offical word from? Admin? I've only been able to track two. This is what really gets me though, I've put more work into this wiki in the past four months than any other time. But I'm kinda doubting that this entire thing was Assualthead, even though his fancy with profanity is some kind of wonderment. I hate worrying because it's like a rocking chair, it gives you something to do but doesn't get you anywhere.--AWT88--[[Special:Contributions/98.19.92.58|98.19.92.58]] 23:25, 15 March 2009 (EDT)
::::::Walky just [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/481400.html blogged] on the matter.
::::::It looks like our host decided to spontaneously upgrade our software without warning or asking us first, forgot to make a database backup while doing so, things got corrupted and now he's slapped in the database we had during transition just to get things working while he digs through the backup archives to find the most up-to-date regular update.
::::::(I am not relaxing until this update is in-hand. That's the kind of flim-flam answer I usually associate with "oops it's all gone" unless I'm informed somethign is going to happen AHEAD of time.) -Derik
:::::::OK, I have [http://www.aldenbates.com/allpages.txt here] a list of all content pages on the Wiki from roughly 4 days ago. I am thinking of writing something to request and save the Google cache of every damn one of them tonight. Actually converting them to Wiki format and restoring them is another matter. --abates 00:34, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
::::::::Google Cache is passable - I tried a few links that I was able to access and they were about at least a week to three weeks off. --lonegamer78 [[Special:Contributions/76.95.138.16|76.95.138.16]] 00:44, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::If you can automate such a thing, I'd say go for it, Abates, just in case. The TV Tropes folks saved their own wiki from a crash with Google's cache, so while it'll be a crapton of work, it'll still be way better than starting over after losing 9 months of work. And if it turns out we didn't need it because Idiot Server guy gets things running again, well... just a little time wasted, then. --Jeysie [[Special:Contributions/72.79.218.38|72.79.218.38]] 01:21, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::Hrm, as I more or less expected, Google throttled me. I'm not sure of a better way to get the cache pages though. :/ --abates 02:26, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

The not-entirely-ultrahorrific news is that the Google cache of every page I've tested for is from March 9th. So at least there IS a record of really everything we've done here; we've only "lost" TransWarped and one or two comic issues.

But for fuck's sake we have to get this nailed down SOON.

First question: is it possible for Google to make a cache of the current lobotomized pages? How long will they rely on their March 9th cache of, say, Kup, before they make a new image of it based on the piece of shit Bookworm reverted us to? Can we ask them to STOP updating?

And does this current incarnation of TFWiki still have the quarter-million implanted redirects to Wikia in it? 'Cos if it does, fuck, we're better off pulling the plug on the site altogether and only putting it back when it's presentable. '''Thylacine 2000''' --[[Special:Contributions/74.73.131.210|74.73.131.210]] 11:03, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

:Agreed. There is absolutely no reason for the site to be up right now. We're begging Google to overwrite their old cache. '''Chip''' [[Special:Contributions/161.203.16.1|161.203.16.1]] 11:39, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

===Another thing comin'===
Okay, people, look here. I don't know jack from shit about databases and backups and servers and whatnot, but what I do know is this:

''This is a fucking catastrophe.''

In the very best possible scenario, we've had a site that's been down all freakin' day. That's if we're very, very lucky, apparently. This is also a site that goes down every single night at 1:10am central time, and stays down from several minutes up to an hour. Every. Single. Night. Like clockwork. This is a known issue and in 6 months, nothing has been done about it.

That's if we're lucky. If we're ''not'' lucky, and I'm seeing no reason to think we are, then we've lost ''eight months of work'', all thanks to some bizarre software update that... does what? Was it even necessary? Was something broken here? Was that whole thing where the site appeared to be working, was that just me hallucinating?

Furthermore, if this required taking down the whole site, ''why on god's green earth was a full backup not made immediately beforehand???''

Daily outages for 6 months, lost backups, no backups before software updates, and a site that's now rudderless. We were supposed to make a clean, sharp, snazzy break from Wikia, show that we'd be better off on our own and didn't need them. At the moment, we instead look like ''idiots'' who can't hack it.

We HAVE advertising money, yes? It is time to find a ''professional'' site host, and PAY THEM for their services so we can in turn get reliable hosting. The free charity hosting thing was very nice, but it seems we've gotten what we paid for. -- repowers, not freakin' signed in.

: Yeah, seriously, what was the server guy ''thinking''? The way this should have been done:
#Ask us first.
#Give at least a week's scheduled warning once we gave permission. (I mean... premiere of the first big TF info in a while kind of is a ''really'' bad time to be doing this sort of thing...)
#Put the wiki in locked-down Maintenance Mode.
#Backup the wiki.
#Upgrade.
#Test it out.
#Unlock the wiki.

:...I'm with you, there's gotta be some webhost we can pay that's better than this silliness. (I'd recommend Dreamhost, but admittedly, while they're more reliable than these folks, I still wouldn't offer it up for more than simple hobby sites.) --Jeysie [[Special:Contributions/72.79.222.241|72.79.222.241]] 23:51, 15 March 2009 (EDT)

:Yeah, this was the ''one reservation'' I had against ditching Wikia - that entrusting our work to some random host would be riskier than a company that does nothing ''but'' wikis. Every time I mentioned it, I was either patted on the head or ignored. Maybe NOW the danger will be taken more seriously. - Jackpot [[Special:Contributions/216.231.37.133|216.231.37.133]] 00:53, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
::In all fairness, this wasn't "some random host." This would be "the guy Walky pays to host Blank Label, where his livelihood resides." --Rosicrucian --[[Special:Contributions/67.232.209.132|67.232.209.132]] 01:15, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
::Not just Walky, but all the other people on BLC. Near as I can tell, this kind of thing has ''never happened'' with the BLC servers before. '''M Sipher'''--[[Special:Contributions/75.177.130.173|75.177.130.173]] 05:38, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
:::And the problem is that Wikia was unreliable too, in entirely different ways. If we'd stayed with them the wiki might be up... but they'd also be randomly breaking things by upgrading without our permission, and screwing around with our content. Personally, I wish we simply had a webhost where we were allowed to do our own backups/upgrades... --Jeysie [[Special:Contributions/72.79.218.38|72.79.218.38]] 01:21, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
::::Well, we had no real reason to suspect this would happen. Walkypedia has been on this same server, with the same hosting and same maintenance guy for years (albeit it's not a wiki of anywhere near this scale). Bookworm had, previously, seemed to have his act together. We just have to hope that he gets it back up, and that he's properly chastised by this.--Rosicrucian, [[Special:Contributions/67.232.209.132|67.232.209.132]] 01:24, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
:::::It's just that... personally, I'm dismayed we were trusting an "outside" IT person to maintain our site anyway. I had thought Suki and Derik were handling things. I mean, If I'm going to host something on my own webspace from a webhost, I'm of the "Take my money, give me webspace, keep the space online, and let me handle the rest" mentality. Or at the very least, not do anything to my site unless I authorize it and I'm there watching... --Jeysie [[Special:Contributions/72.79.218.38|72.79.218.38]] 01:30, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

I beleve that we must do everything in our power to restore the wiki post-hast. Otherwise we will fall behind so far it may set us back weeks even months just to get caught up again. And if I might add that if anyone copied any of the articales we can use that information help fix the problem. I know it sounds complcated but we have to try. To me this not just a wiki it stands for everything Transfomers are. --D.J.Sky 03:35 15 March (2009)
:Ruined FOREVER, you mean? - Magnus Maximus 04:39, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

Aw, jesus, I was ''really'' hoping that when I woke up, this would all have been a dream or something. - - McFeely [[Special:Contributions/78.32.44.57|78.32.44.57]] 06:27, 16 March 2009 (EDT)
:That's exactly what I was hoping McFreely, but sadly it wasn't. I was hoping the site would be back up by now and we'd have four days of work to recreate, but no, it's still down. I mean ''come on'', the half-ass guys over at the wikia have almost everything we've put up in the past four days (not to our quality but still). I don't know guys... I hope it'll be back up by the time I get home from work tonight and might pull an all nighter trying to do what I can.--AWT88--[[Special:Contributions/98.19.92.58|98.19.92.58]] 10:53, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

::It's really a bad nightmare. Oww... I have same feeling with Chris. --(TX55) [[Special:Contributions/61.229.26.192|61.229.26.192]] 11:42, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

===Damage control===
Figured there should be a link here to the discussion Rob started on how to go about fixing all of this: [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Damage Control Central]] - '''Jackpot''' [[Special:Contributions/216.231.37.133|216.231.37.133]] 13:52, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

==ROTF countdown==
I can't remember, but was our ROTF countdown thing automated or did somebody have to manually change the number of days left? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:04, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
:<nowiki>*blink*</nowiki> Yeah, it used to be a countdown in wikicode. *yoinks the countdown back onto the page from the history and feels sheepish for not noticing it got overwritten* --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 09:15, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
::Thank you kindly. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:17, 21 March 2009 (EDT)
:::It's showing 101 days again, which is where it was stuck after the crash. --[[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 00:00, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::::OOps, shall fix. Thanks for the heads up! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:19, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

== Derik's revamp. ==

Looked and worked awesome when you showed me the sample, even better now that it's in proper layout. Kudos, man.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:00, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:Not sure what else was done, but the image banner at the top looks all huge and pixelated now in Firefox on my iMac. This may or may not stem from the revamp.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 03:16, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::It looks mostly spiffilicious, but there's something off on the Continuities/Categories paddings, as the longer titles (External Properties, Full Series Info, and About Continuities) wrap into double lines for me, where they didn't before. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 07:14, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Doesn't happen for me at 1024, haven't tried it at other resolutions. I did notice that the "Full Series Info" anchor link on the Continuities box is now broken.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:56, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::::I've had a chance to look at it on the PC at home, and the banner image looks fine there. The Continuities & Categories titles look fine to me, no line wrapping. Go figure. The anchor link for Full Series Info is indeed messed up, though.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 20:22, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:::::Mrr, maybe it's my font size. I don't know why it's suddenly weird, though, it was fine before.
:::::As for the "Full Series Info", that, and "anyone can edit" and "add to!" in the disambig were all in-page anchor links to various feature boxes' IDs. If Derik changed or forgot to add the IDs on the feature boxes, either that needs to be fixed, or the links need to be fixed. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:20, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

They have ID's-- but not names. (I think 1 or two of the ID's might've changed, I didn't think they were used.) Are you referring to anchors, or...? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:48, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:Yup, anchors. The link in question goes to Main_Page#series for example.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:52, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::The anchors work-- they're set using the id= in the main page text. I apparently changed the "#editing" anchor to "#editing-tips" to make it consistent with the rest of the ID's used on the page. I didn't realize anything actually ''used'' it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:12, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:::And yet, I click on that link, and it's no-go.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:17, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::::Ah. ''Now'' it works. Go figure.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:52, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

I like the ''idea'' of the autosizing banner, but as mentioned previously, it looks really pixel-y and...well, bad. (Never mind that the Decepticon banner has some sort of smudge in the middle of the "K".) I'm looking at it in IE7 at a resolution of 1280x1024, meaning the banner image itself shows up at 1007 pixels wide. But it looks really junky until I shrink the window down so that the image is below 800 pixels. --[[User:Salt-Man Z|Salt-Man Z]] 16:43, 8 April 2009 (EDT)

== Server Slowdown? ==

Still getting some major lag at various times, and not just at the "standard" time of midnight Central Time or so. For at least a couple of hours this afternoon, the wiki was taking too long to respond, delivering server time-out errors, or else generating a blank page. Frankly, until I was able to see it properly again just now, I was worried we had a repeat performance on our hands. I believe Suki/Scout said she was making regular back-ups, which is good. Is this periodic bog-down going to be SOP until/unless we move again, or is Bookworm gonna do something about it?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 20:27, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:I noticed that there were zero edits from 13:45–18:56 this afternoon. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:42, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::Yep, the site was pretty much unreachable for about 5 hours there, along with Blank Label Comics' site. I was beginning to wonder if the server had died completely.
::The favicon seems to have stopped working for me too, though I can't work out why. The image is still there... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:27, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Five ''hours''? Yeesh. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:49, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
::::And no one who knows why has shown up here to explain or communicated the reason to anyone who posts here yet. Lovely. Favicon's still working for me, at least.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:54, 6 April 2009 (EDT)
:::::I called Bookworm in the middle of it to get him to kick the server in the nuts, but I only got his voicemail. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:14, 6 April 2009 (EDT)
::::::Peachy. My confidence is soaring now. Well, at least we know someone here has tried to get his attention.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:40, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

==Been Out for a While==

I figured this would be the best place to do this. First and formost, I'd like to apologize to everyone on the Wiki for not helping in probably our biggest time of need. I have been unable to have internet access for the past few weeks, because the damn hospital wouldn't let me have a computer (and maybe only being able to use one arm on a laptop is pretty damn hard), which means I have been unable to update or edit anything. Hell, today was the first time I was on my Facebook or Myspace for weeks, have finally caught up on Lil'formers and ShortPacked as well.

Anyways, let me explain about these ramblings. Two or three days after the crash--on my way to work--I had some fucking dumbass in a riced Toyota run a red light and T-bone the side of my truck in my door and messed me up pretty good (he fucked himself up as bad as his car) and put me in the hospital. I was pretty damn lucky though, dislocated my shoulder and elbow, factured my forearm and wrist, broke three of my fingers; all on my left arm (and I'm a lefty), cracked four ribs and bruised them too, fractured my tibia and broke my ankle. My right side was farely untouched but still got bruised, oh, and my seatbelt cut into my neck (I've had worse cuts and scars before). This is all probably a bit too much but I figured I needed to explain why I haven't been on here until after everything was fixed.

I do have a few questions now though. 1) I can't log in under my name so do I have to set up a new one? 2) Was everything completely blanked when it came to users (i.e. Page Watch, Contribs., etc.) or can we retrieve that? I guess that's all the questions I can think of right now. Any responses, obviously write on the talk page, or hit me on my IP address Talk Page.--'''AWT88'''--[[Special:Contributions/98.19.92.58|98.19.92.58]] 23:10, 20 April 2009 (EDT)
:Wow, that sucks. I'm glad to hear you're recovering though!
:And no, the user accounts were completely scragged. You'll have to re-register. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:10, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

==ROTF==

Shouldn't the newest thing be the Veiled Threat instead of Defiance #4? --[[Special:Contributions/206.253.51.107|206.253.51.107]] 09:26, 10 May 2009 (EDT)

== Could not connect ==

Was anyone else unable to connect to tfwiki for the last four hours? Are we still having server problems, then?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 14:09, 16 May 2009 (EDT)

I was ''finally'' able to get back on the site after about 6 hours, and noticed there had been ''only one edit in the past 6 hours''. What gives? Has the site been down the entire time, or has everyone been busy at BOTCON?--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 23:38, 29 May 2009 (EDT)
:It's definitely been down all that time for me, at least. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:48, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
::That was downright painful. :( --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:18, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Indeed, its getting to where I see why Wikia is still running, since its actually up half the time[[Special:Contributions/76.240.201.195|76.240.201.195]] 11:56, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

== Dinoforce ==

For some reason, all of the Dinoforce articles show up twice in the Turncoats category. This doesn't happen with any other article in there, so I think maybe it's a facet of that little accented u in their names. They appear to not just be copies of the same article, though, since the talk page for one was the talk page for the other. I'm not sure if this is an in-joke or not, though, so could someone familiar with the articles please address this?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 19:52, 7 June 2009 (EDT)

== Remaining the Fallen? ==

Do we have a lineup of potential Featured Articles for August? I vote for [[Sector Seven]], unless we think it would be a good idea to keep it as-is until the movie leaves theaters..... --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 12:16, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
:Siph suggested [[Micromaster Collection]] a week or two back. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:57, 2 August 2009 (EDT)

:Do we have any featured-level G.I.Joe related articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:31, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
::Not especially... even the complete ones look kind of... limp. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:44, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I think a G.I.Joe article is a good idea...to bad in don't know nearly enough about the show to lap at least one of the articles a feature...--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 16:54, 2 August 2009 (EDT)
::::So, are we going to switch to Micromaster Collection after all? If that doesn't work for some reason, I could also suggest "Shattered Glass" [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]] or [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]] for further potential quirkiness. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 01:59, 5 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::I suggest [[Marissa Faireborn]] to go with our G.I. Joe theme. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:21, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::I second Marissa (and note that it's usually Walky who changes the featured article, and he's on the road which is probably why it hasn't changed. Also, I want to slap an "anatomy doesn't work that way" tag on the current tower ad). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:27, 6 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Yeah, I'll third the Marissa idea (and not just because I did that article up recently!). We're already a week into August, so I'll just change it now before I head out to work. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 06:05, 7 August 2009 (EDT)

==September FA?==
So.... [[Micromaster Collection]]? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:34, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
:I'm down with that. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:45, 30 August 2009 (EDT)
:Anyone wanna put that up? I will tomorrow morning if not! :) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 09:09, 4 September 2009 (EDT)

== DVD field guide ==

Actually, with the column width wouldn't this fit easily in the featured series box?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:57, 22 October 2009 (EDT)
:Maybe, although I think it needs to stay in a nicely prominent spot somewhere and not get "lost". There's already so much info jammed in the Featured Series box already. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:22, 22 October 2009 (EDT)

== Reception in all fiction ==

Just an idea, why not add a reception section to all main fiction pages (comics and series) ala the Animated/UT pages [[User:Eire]] 20,07 Nov 2 09 (UTC)
:I tend to cringe at these, as they're tough to write, inevitably biased, and magnets for vandalism.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:12, 2 November 2009 (EST)
::I kinda agree. Though I DID really enjoy the UT ones (those articles in general were good reads for me, since I missed most of those shows). I think only in cases where the response was very particularly notable should we dip into such opinionated waters. Otherwise, yeah, they're kinda huge moron/troll/vandal bait. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 15:31, 2 November 2009 (EST)
:::That would be my concern as well. If a series had a particularly notable and uniform reception, then it might be worth a write-up. Otherwise, what is there to say? I worry about echo-chamber effects as well. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:40, 2 November 2009 (EST)
::::To be honest, don't we already have some sort of reception section in most of the articles? Beast Wars has the infamous [[Trukk not munky]] reactions and so forth, and Beast Machines has the fandom's dim views on it. Is there any section which already doesn't have some sort of fandom reaction on it? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 16:02, 2 November 2009 (EST)

==Slight reorganization?==
Should we move "Editing Tips" to the left column? The "This Day in History" and "Schedule" boxes are gonna pretty much be longer and longer as time goes on. This is just going to push "Editing" even further down, leaving lots of whitespace. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:45, 8 November 2009 (EST)
:I'd been thinking of that myself. Although I was thinking more of breaking up the list into two sections and just having it sit the full width of the page.
:We could instead or also trim the Featured Series box back down, and/or combine the Categories and Continuities boxes, which I'd also been considering. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:04, 8 November 2009 (EST)
::How about making the "This Day" and "Schedule" boxes like the "Series" - show a few highlights, click for full listing. On the other hand, "Editing Tips" seems like something that should go in or near the "Toolbox". [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:06, 8 November 2009 (EST) (forgot to log in at first)
:::I don't like the idea of condensing either list. Who dictates what's more important? Hell, half the point is to provide more and more jumping-off points to things people might not have thought about normally from the main page. I think simply moving "editing" will suffice. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:12, 8 November 2009 (EST)
::::I can see the point about who decides what's important, but surely it is not necessary to have something in the "Schedule" two and a half years beforehand (premiere of TF3). Showing ~ one month's worth on the main page would probably be enough. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:23, 8 November 2009 (EST)
:::::It's not like anything that far in advance is going to be announced often. Hell, TF3 is about it, and oh joy, you're saving one line. And no, I don't think one month is enough, because honestly, the Schedule tends to get forgotten, and events end up still on there weeks after they were done. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:04, 8 November 2009 (EST)

== Little slow ==

So, what exactly are the differences between tfwiki and transformerswikia? And why the split and stuff?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 04:07, 17 December 2009 (EST)
:See the [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Complaints|complaints]] page as to why we moved. TFWiki is run on an independent server and has almost all of the people who used to edit on th wikia. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:34, 17 December 2009 (EST)

== Just wondering ==

Why is it important to list the advertisements in comic books? I really can't see why?--[[User:LesterX|LesterX]] 20:27, 22 December 2009 (EST)
:Why not? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:46, 22 December 2009 (EST)
::Sometimes they have little blurbs, "This guy is cool because..." They are official info, no? Which characters get the marketing monies and whatsuch. Plus they are usually so condensed, they can represent the character in a waaaay left field manner, kinda like eating condensed soup w/o the cans of water. You get the familiar taste, but in a "-choke-, come again?" manner.[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 20:57, 14 February 2010 (EST)

==Sidebar==
Sidebar is FUBAR in Internet Explorer. See [http://obscuretf.com/TFWikiIESideBar.jpg here], ignoring the swath of stuff cut out from the middle because I didn't feel like printscreening it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 15:33, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:Looking at it... it seems to be some kind of problem with the float on the sidebar. Whether it's due to IE not properly squishing and/or scrollbar-ing the main content section to ensure it fits (the way FF and Opera do), or something wrong with the float declaration itself, I'm not sure, though. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:47, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::In my case, the sidebar's font seemed to have shrunk on the main page but it looks normal when I'm elsewhere. [http://img63.imageshack.us/i/tfwikimainpage.jpg/ Main page] and [http://img685.imageshack.us/i/tfwikisamplebluestreak.jpg/ random page] (okay, Bluestreak's) for comparison. And I'm using Firefox 3.5.7. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 16:16, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I get the same result as Lonegamer with Firefox 3.5.5 and IE 8.0.6001.18865. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 16:22, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::Using IE and yeah, sidebar's hiding way the hell down there somewhere. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 16:30, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::Unfortunately, I suspect this likely is something that can only be fixed by someone with access to the site's CSS/HTML, rather than by wikicode. What's the standard method for summoning Suki or Derik? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:41, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::That should be fixed now... --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:35, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::I can be summoned by a virgin sacrifice or AIM... like it says on my userpage. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:43, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::Ah, that explains it. I don't have AIM or any virgins I'm willing to sacrifice... --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:50, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::Yay, it's normal! --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:58, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== New WFC TFWiki logo image? ==
IMHO, we totally need to add [http://www.gamestop.com/gs/images/bonus/Transformers_Cybertron_bonusLG.jpg a logo of this pic] to our rotation. (I'd do it myself, except I don't have our logo bit to add to it...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:37, 9 February 2010 (EST)
:And I am now content. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:22, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Kudos ==

I'd like to take a nanoclick to say that out of all the various wikis save Wikipedia Prime, and often including Wikipedia Prime, funny or no funny, THIS WIKI HAS IT'S $#!+ TOGETHER. Other Wiki's have about as many users in all as we have SERIOUS/DEDICATED users. ... Does TFWIKI have a fanfare/praise page?[[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 21:08, 14 February 2010 (EST)

== Extremely weird... ==

When I try to set the size of Image:DiacloneSkids.jpg to 300px, it comes out as Image:G1SkyLynx toy.jpg[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:05, 28 February 2010 (EST)
[[Image:DiacloneSkids.jpg|thumb|right|300px|See?]]
: Can't say I'm seeing that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:21, 28 February 2010 (EST)
::Okay, just my computer then. Still weird. It ONLY does it at 300px, not 299, not 301, JUST 300. Guess it's telling me to log off. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:25, 28 February 2010 (EST)
:::Okay, now it's back to normal. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:05, 1 March 2010 (EST)
{{-}}
::::Sounds like an image cacheing issue. Those usually fix themselves in a few hours.
::::(OTOH, I've seen a few instances when a certain resolution's thumbnail is permanently screwed up.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:40, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

== Possible Tweaks... ==

So, I decided I wanted to try and make our Main Page a little less "unbroken sea of text" if I could. I basically consolidated Continuities/Categories into one, as well as merging Editing Tips/Holy Grails into one along with a resurrected "Improvement Drive" idea. I also added in some headers and logos to break things up, and trimmed down the Series list to show just the major fiction. Check it out here: [[User:Jeysie/Main Page]] and give thoughts? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:11, 9 May 2010 (EDT)
:I like the consolidated "Improvement Drive" box and really like the separation of months in the Schedule. On the other hand, I like using logos in theory, but I'm not so sure about how it works in execution. Particularly I'm wary about the logos of the Japan-exclusive series. Having something on our front page that most of our readers can't read seems, well, unideal. Putting the titles under the logos in plain text would fix that, but that'd seem kind of gratuitous under the English logos. I also ''really'' don't like the use of the logo of the first series in a continuity to represent the entire thing in the Continuities box. It makes it look like the one series is the entire continuity, which also makes it look like an unnecessary overlap with the Series box. I think it'd be better to just leave the continuities as text, since it's clearer that way. -- [[User:HotAndCold|HotAndCold]] 22:56, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

FIRRIB

2010-05-03T22:49:26Z

HotAndCold:

{{quote|Yes, in AHM Rumble is RED.|[[Joana Lafuente]] <ref>[http://khaamar.deviantart.com/art/All-Hail-Megatron-9-cover-112520321 Joana LaFuente's response.]</ref>|center=true}}
{{quote|Okay guys, let's get this right this time. Rumble is BLUE, Frenzy is RED!|[[Derrick J. Wyatt]] <ref>[http://derrickjwyatt.blogspot.com/2008/12/first-we-crack-shell.html Derrick Wyatt's opinion]</ref>|center=true}}
{{quote|[Frenzy]'s blue because Hasbro said so.|[[Shane McCarthy]] <ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffvrLk_6Seo#t=28s Shane McCarthy's response during IDW's panel at San Diego Comic-Con 2008.]</ref>|center=true}}
[[Image:Rumble and frenzy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Rumble and Frenzy. Or Frenzy and Rumble. Whatever.]]
An acronym sometimes bandied about by fans, '''FIRRIB''' means "[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] is red, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is blue". The phrase originated on [[alt.toys.transformers]] circa 1994, essentially as a (largely joking) rallying cry for those who favored [[The Transformers (cartoon)|the original cartoon]] over various other media portrayals of the Transformers. In time, the counterpoint '''FIBRIR''' emerged, standing for "Frenzy is blue, Rumble is red". The forms RIBFIR and RIRFIB are also known.

The debate revolves around the colors of the [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Cassette]]s, Rumble and Frenzy. It was [[Hasbro]]'s intent that Rumble be black and red, and Frenzy be two shades of blue. These color schemes are used in the toyline, [[Marvel Comics]] and many storybooks and ancillary media from the early years of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]], and naturally, it was intended for the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon series]] to render the characters in this manner as well (as proven by the show's [[production bible]], which identifies Rumble as the "red robot"). However, as a result of some unspecified error somewhere in production, the two robots had their color schemes swapped, leaving the animated incarnation of Rumble blue, and Frenzy red.

Due to the widespread recognition the cartoon received, the concept of Rumble as the blue robot was ingrained into the minds of many viewers. As such, years later, [[Fandom|fans]] would argue vehemently (though often tongue-in-cheek) over which coloration was "correct", based mainly on their personal preference for the cartoon or comic.

The FIRRIB movement was codified by a [[MUSH]] user and cartoon fan named Scott Wells in 1994<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/7f7aa2ec041325c4/d066fdb5fb0bdaf9?lnk=gst&q=FIRRIB#d066fdb5fb0bdaf9 ATT FAQ file, 1994]</ref>, who coined the acronym FIRRIB. The FIRRIB idea quickly caught on with other cartoon fans on alt.toys.transformers, frequently appearing in signature files; its counterpoint, the comic- and toy-based FIBRIR, soon appeared as well. After endless discussion threads fueled by little more than personal preference, the subject eventually landed in the group's FAQ file as a do-not-ask question.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/75181b5ca5175ca3?&q=FIRRIB+FAQ ATT FAQ file, 1998]</ref>

The Japanese dub of the Generation 1 cartoon rectified the error, making the animation match the toys by simply switching the characters' names around.

As later incarnations of the characters draw on both the cartoon and toys as influences, the waters have become muddier still:

Items in the following table are listed in release order. E.g., the original toys came first.

{|border="0" cellspacing="2" cellpadding="2" style="text-align:left"
!
!Frenzy
!Rumble
|-
![[The Transformers (toyline)|Original toys]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"| Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"| Red
|-
![[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comics]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"| Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"| Red
|-
![[Ladybird Books]]
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"|none
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Kid Stuff]]
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"|none
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[The Transformers (cartoon)|US cartoon]]
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|-
![[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Japanese cartoon]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Dreamwave comics]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity|Devil's Due comics]]
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|-
![[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW comics]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Alternators]] toys
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"|None
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Diamond Select Toys|Diamond Select]]
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|-
![[Music Label]] earphones
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]
|style="color:#000;background:#fff;"|None
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
![[Transformers G1: Awakening|G1: The Awakening]]
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red
|-
|}

It is generally agreed that pointing out Rumble was actually kinda purple in the original cartoon is not helpful (particularly since he still has blue in the places where Frenzy has red). Nor is pointing out the fact that for a brief moment in the movie (when Rumble, Frenzy, [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] jam [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s transmission) ''both'' of them were red. Or that the Marvel US coloring had Rumble as red ''and blue''.

==References==
<references />

==External links==
*[http://www.lilformers.com/index.php/2007/03/20/lil-formers-38-rumblefrenzy/ LilFormers' answer to this dilemma.]

[[Category:Fandom]]

Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-04-30T08:48:35Z

HotAndCold: Undo revision 452608 by 87.232.1.50 (Talk)

[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]

'''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand| Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.<ref name="tfw2005">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]</ref> The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' may be a tie-in to the game and its fiction.

Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&A with Activision]</ref>

The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo DS and personal computers.
{{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}
:{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}

==Synopsis==

[[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]

The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] is searching for a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots. [[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).

==Characters==
At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. The characters available will shift from level to level. Known playable characters include:

'''Autobots'''
*[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) <ref>[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]</ref>
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]
*[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]]
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) <ref>[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]</ref>
'''Decepticons'''
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]
*[[Motormaster]]
*[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]]
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)
*[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1270579997&sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]</ref>, Play.com exclusive in UK)

The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, "things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon."<ref name="tfw2005"/>

...They're totally reading the Wiki, aren't they? Hello, designers!

<center><gallery>
Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.
Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.
Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.
Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.
Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!
Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.
Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.
Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile.
Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?

</gallery></center>

==Features==
* Campaigns will be co-op both online and off for the first time in a Transformers game.
* All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.
* The game will run on the Unreal engine.
* High Moon is prepared to "support the game after release," meaning either patches or downloadable content.
* Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.
* All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.
* Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no "cool down" so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.
* The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. <ref>[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]</ref>

==Production==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips" to you and me).

The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched "typical sci-fi cool stuff" like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips "over and over". While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. <ref>[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]</ref>

==Operation Transmission Recovery==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips/images" to you and me).

There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the "Total Recovered" amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch.

As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
| '''S. No.'''
| '''Blue'''
| '''Yellow'''
| '''Type'''
| '''Description'''
|-
| 1
| 351
| 327
| Video
| Game Trailer (unlocked by default).
|-
| 2
| 018
| 088
| Video
| Starscream flying.
|-
| 3
| 018
| 088
| Image
| Starscream standing.
|-
| 4
| 029
| 209
| Video
| Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.
|-
| 5
| 040
| 328
| Image
| Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.
|-
| 6
| 051
| 110
| Image
| Cybertron .
|-
| 7
| 073
| 190
| Image
| Optimus vs an average Decepticon.
|-
| 8
| 085
| 298
| Video
| Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).
|-
| 9
| 096
| 347
| Video
| A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).
|-
| 10
| 107
| 035
| Image
| Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.
|-
| 11
| 120
| 040
| Image
| Cybertron as seen from a moon.
|-
| 12
| 140
| 201
| Image
| Starscream flying towards Cybertron .
|-
| 13
| 162
| 359
| Image
| A red robot (Ironhide?).
|-
| 14
| 173
| 003
| Image
| A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).
|-
| 15
| 192
| 147
| Video
| Injured Autobot, trying to get up .
|-
| 16
| 203
| 094
| Video
| Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.
|-
| 17
| 214
| 004
| Image
| A city seen from a tunnel .
|-
| 18
| 225
| 199
| Image
| A city tower falling and hitting another tower.
|-
| 19
| 265
| 011
| Image
| Optimus Prime.
|-
| 20
| 284
| 021
| Image
| Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).
|-
| 21
| 295
| 249
| Video
| Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.
|-
| 22
| 306
| 041
| Image
| Cybertron as seen from another moon.
|-
| 23
| 317
| 081
| Video
| City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).
|-
| 24
| 328
| 221
| Video
| Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.
|}

==Toy tie-ins==
[[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Bumblebee. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].

<gallery>
Image:WFC Optimus Prime toy.jpg
Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg
Image:WFC Bumblebee toy.jpg
</gallery>

==Notes==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]
*[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']
*[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']
*[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]
*[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]
*[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']
*[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]

[[Category: Video games]]

Talk:Prowl (G1)

2010-04-22T20:42:06Z

HotAndCold:

I am all for having an entry that consists entirely of "OUR MISSILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!", but is the bold really neccessary? It makes it look like a header. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 02:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Trivia says: ''At OTFCC 2004 that there was no Prowl Alternator in the works''. I'm assumignt here's suppsoed ot be a "_____ stated" int here someplace. Who stated? Hasbro? Aaron Archer? Hooper-X? (I could see Hooper wanting to disappoint a room full of Transfans.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I thought the Prowl2 line was just a joke.

== Past Tense? ==

We probably need a policy statement somewhere (or at least somewhere I can find it) as to whether fictional events are described in present tense (as in the Wikipedia), in past tense (as preferred by at least one of our mods), or in whichever the writer prefers. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

:Apparently I'm no good at keeping track of tense, so people sometimes chastise me after I've filled in the fiction sections. Of course, I didn't even know we had a policy. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, apparently we do need a summary of what tense to use where, 'cuz I can't find anything like that. But to sum up -- Introductory paragraph in present tense, fiction in past tense. Basically, "This is who the character IS, this is what the character DID." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Do we have a consensus on that, or are you speaking ''ex moderata?'' And, how does this apply to non-character pages, like synopses of comics? [[User:JW|JW]] 15:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::::I'd say it's a consensus, as I believe most of the top-contributers write the pages in that way. (For a while, [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] was our "this is how you do a page" project, though it's likely out of date by now for some new developments...) For non-character pages like episode or comic summaries, I'd suggest present tense. I don't think I've actually read enough summary pages close enough to say if they're being written in mostly one tense or the other... but "present" is my off-the-cuff preference. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Most of what we write is past tense, especially when summarizing fiction. It doesn't matter whether it's a character page or an episode/issue page. -- [[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 16:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
::::Walky's rationale makes sense to me, and I agree with Steve that it should apply to episode/issue pages. A story summary is a story summary, and summaries are written by definition after something has happened. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 20:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::See, I'd vote for present tense on the comic/episode summary pages, but past tense when summarizing fiction on character/object/location pages. In the case of the latter, that's the "Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe"-reader in me - it's the character's whole ''history'', as in, what has gone before, so it should be past tense. But when specifically summarizing one, small, condensed piece of fiction, there's that rule of thumb Wikipedia uses that says to use present tense "as this is the way that the story is experienced as it is read or viewed." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:26, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::I find the present tense in story summaries to be a laudable goal-- but often difficult to accomplish. The past tense is more friendly to omniscient narration (because you're looking back on things) and I would have found it vexing to summarize, say, [[The Magnificent Six!]]. in the present-tense while reflecting the narrative ignorance that's central to its slowly revealed backstory. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:49, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

(Resetting the indents...) It's news to me that Wikipedia perfers present tense for summaries. Personally, I think that present tense reporting sounds amateurish. Compare the present Dreamwave text:
{{quote|Prowl was an Autobot from Praxus. After the death of Sentinel Prime, Grimlock called him, Jazz, and others to the ruins of Praxus, where he declared that if the new Prime was insufficient, they would take control of the Autobot military. Prowl was present at the ceremony when Optronix became Optimus Prime, and was restrained by Grimlock when Prime was attacked.}}
To a present-tense rewrite:
{{quote|Prowl is an Autobot from Praxus. After the death of Sentinel Prime, Grimlock calls him, Jazz, and others to the ruins of Praxus, where he declares that if the new Prime is insufficient, they will take control of the Autobot military. Prowl is present at the ceremony when Optronix becomes Optimus Prime, and is restrained by Grimlock when Prime is attacked.}}
Granted, I could rewrite a little bit to make it more elegant...
{{quote|The Autobot Prowl calls Praxus his home. Upon the death of Sentinel Prime, Grimlock summons him, Jazz, and others to the ruins of Praxus, and declares that if the new Prime is insufficient, they will take control of the Autobot military. Later, Prowl attends the ceremony in which Optronix becomes Optimus Prime, and is restrained by Grimlock when Prime is attacked.}}
...but I still think that sounds like it was written by a 12 year old. The past-tense version is more professional and authoritative. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 00:16, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
:''It's news to me that Wikipedia perfers present tense for summaries.''
:It's specified here: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_%28writing_about_fiction%29 Writing About Fiction], under "Contextual presentation". I disagree about it sounding amateurish. [[User:JW|JW]] 00:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
::Wiki's insistence on present tense is part of it's "do not ever ever write in-universe on pain of fucking death" approach. To write a summary of the life and activities of a real person, you write in past tense - so since we write in-universe here, as though these were "real" characters, past tense is appropriate. But when you're writing a summary of a single episode or comic, on it's own page, where you acknowledge that it's fiction, present tense flows better, I think. It's "coming alive," in the here and now, as it were. I don't know about anyone else, but when I write a summary, I've got the episode or comic in front of me, and go through it. It's actually "happening" in front of me as the summary is created, hence, present tense. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 08:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

== Earthforce ==

With Earthforce being in a separate timeline section, should flashbacks from Earthforce that supposedly take place back during the regular UK run (like Prowl's encounter with the Battlechargers) be in the main body of the Marvel timeline or just in the Earthforce section?--[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 03:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:That's something I've wrestled with. They could be considered retroactive additions to canon "before" the timeline split off, or... I dunno. I can see it both ways. I just worry that segregating the flashback material from the context in which they happened is unnecessarily confusing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:04, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

== Reprolabels? ==

Given the minor edit war here over whether to include mention of the Reprolabels set available for the Alternators toys, should we cut ''all'' mention of Reprolabels from the wiki? It's mentioned on five other pages. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:Reprolabels is pretty clearly Not Official. They probably shouldn't be on the Wiki at all. If they are, they should be either on the [[Fandom]] page (I could see mentioning a few sample fandom-based businesses like this, Unicron.com, Justitoys, etc.), or listed in a character's trivia as a response to any outstanding fan controversy surrounding a particular toy -- but that's a very slippery slope, and I'm pretty sure other folks around here would just say Not Official is the whole story, fullstop. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:25, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
::Yeah, especially this particular invocation of Reprolabels is against our policies here. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:47, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

== Universe Prowl Picture? ==

How come there isn't a piccie for Universe (2008) Prowl? Shouldn't there be an official photograph ''somewheres''? Or is Prowl that much of a prick that he doesn't want a pic of his newest figure to be displayed? [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 11:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
:I dunno. Probably no one's done it yet. We ''do'' have 22 years of back material to catch up on you know. Has Hasbro put out official pics? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
::I thought they did. Buggered if I know where they are. [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 11:53, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

==Prowl (Magnaboss)==
Page needs deleating. Furman has said he's established as G1 Prowl in the upcomming IDW BW mini. Same for the other Magnaboss components and their G1 counterparts.
: God DAMMIT Furman...
:: Is there some way to completely remove Furman from Transformers without doing actual physical harm to him? :( --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 22:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

::: Honestly don't see what the big deal is. This guy and his compatriots had ZERO personality anywhere ever, and have long been speculated by fans to be their G1 counterparts, asspecially with the assumed leadership role as counterpart to Tripredacus. I'd a thousand times rather have them be their G1 selves and hence ACTUAL CHARACTERS, than remain blank slates for an eternity. As for Furman he's been doing SPECTACULAR work on the regular IDW books. He's as strong or stronger than he's ever been IMO.

We'll see what else comes down the pike before deleting. Also, I like the false choice you present -- that they can EITHER be the G1 guys OR they can be nobodies forever. Because clearly, making them NEW guys who are ''not'' GEEWUN AGAIN LOOK MORE GEEWUN YOU LIKE GEEWUN RIGHT?! can't ''possibly'' be an option. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:30, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
: As long as they give the writing to Furman, "HAY LUK GUYZ IM PROWL FROM GEEWUN" is the most characterization they could get. --[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 00:43, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

::::That's pretty funny since Furman's pretty much the only guy to ever give Prowl a personality. He was a non-entity in the G1 toon and early comic only furman's work on the later Marvel book and in IDW have ever brought him to life as the by-the-book Prick everyone loves to hate.

:: Do you know of any other non-IDW project pending using these characters? If not, there's just NO justification for not deleating these. In their only fiction ever they ARE new bodies of the G1 characters. Fictional portrail IS what we base these pages on, right? If someone else were schedualed to use the characters as seperate beings soon that would be one thing, but giving them seperate pages simply becasue you happen to dislike the fact that they are the G1 folks is totally without merit and against the principles of presenting the facts that this wiki tries to stand by, IMO.

::As for the choice bit, no choice was intended. I simply stated that these guys were ''"total non-entities fan-speculated to be G1ers"'' for all the years of their existance and now they ''actually difinitivly G1ers'' and between those two states I find the latter much preferable. Sure they could have been non-G1ers, and that would have been fine too, but they have *always* been likely speculated suspects for surviving Autobots and now it's simbly been confirmed. It's not like he made Torca = Ultra Magnus or Bantor = Wreck-gar. It was a very small and acceptable step IMO. If the IDW Profile books come out and are FILLED with G1ers reborn that will be bad, but for these three it's rather appropriate and fitting I'd say.
:::It's not about prowl and co ''per se'', it's about the fact that the autobots are supposed to be '''gone''' or '''extremely rare''' in BW-era. But '''every single''' comic book, or convention story dealing with the BW era has introduced G1 characters int he Beast Era. Scads of them. Soon they will out number the actual Beast Warriors. (I'm not joking, it was only 3 years of a fairly limited assortment with lots of repeat characters.)
:::Beast Wars entire '''thing''' that makes it unique is that G1 is ''over'' and thsoe characters are ''gone.'' But the first thing ''any'' writer does, given a chance to mess with the Beast Era, is introduce more G1 characters.
:::It's like you give a small child with no self-restraint a marshmellow and tell them "Now, the only thing you must remember is ''do not masturbate on the marshmallow.''" And the idea ''consumes'' them, and the next thing you know they're jerking off.
:::Nothing against G1? We'd just prefer BW wasn't ''quite'' so sticky with fanwank. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::::Besides, considering Beast Wars is G1 cartoon canon (Starscream dies in 2005, Nemesis, etc.), shouldn't Prowl and Ironhide be, I dunno.... ''dead''?
:::::Who says its cartoon canon? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::Starscream's ghost, the Nemesis, Energon (Shockwave built an Energon making machine once in the comic, but after Bumblebee blasted it, Energon was never brought up again so...), Megatron becoming Galvatron...
:::::::The energy siphon came up quite regularly in the UK comics. Primus, Unicron, gods not Primacron...
:::::::Bob and Larry always intended it to be a ''new'' continuity that blended the elements of both cartoon and comic. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Doesn't Magnaboss or his components appear in [[Homecoming (issue)|Universe #3]]? --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 13:44, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

:If they do, the I think questions that arise are: 1) are they an alternate reality version (it is Universe after all) and 2) is there anything in the portrayle there that specifically contridicts/prevents them being the G1 characters then too. If not then the pages still need to be merged, I'd say. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:14, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
::Here we are: [[Maximal High Council]]. So, no, not alternate universe. But no details on "G1 or not", I'm sure. Should there be any thought given about Magnaboss' two appearances being from conflicting continuities (3H's comics vs. IDW's Beast Wars comics)? IDW says they're G1, but IDW conflicts with 3H on many other things. Just a though. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 20:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

==Your opinion doesn't matter==
Unfortunately, no matter how stupid certain revalations about the new BW series are, it's happening. The wiki isn't a discussion forum... we'll give boatloads of leeway when it comes to random thoughts being put on talk pages, but really, this isn't the place for heated debate about news. And anonymous user is correct; when the series actually comes out, we'll have to merge the Magnaboss component character pages. As it stands now, it's a non-issue. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 00:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

==Split?==
Could someone create a separate toy page? It's about time, but I'm not sure how to do it properly. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:38, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

== Autobot Insignia ==

It appears to be based off of Prowl's head. No, seriously, take a look. And I think we should make a note of this. [[Special:Contributions/156.3.149.15|156.3.149.15]] 15:58, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
:Not really, no. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:13, 22 April 2010 (EDT)
:It's already mentioned on [[Insignia]] --[[User:HotAndCold|HotAndCold]] 16:42, 22 April 2010 (EDT)

Insignia

2010-04-21T05:32:59Z

HotAndCold:

One of the universals across all Transformers continuities has been the use of '''insignia''' to differentiate members of respective armies, and sometimes sub-factions within armies or even individuals. This was sometimes used as a tactical advantage when Transformers would temporarily wear the symbol of the opposite faction to fool their opponents.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1===
====Marvel comics continuity====
{{noteukonly}}
When [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] was revived by [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after being trapped in a tar pit for four million years, he went into a frenzy and attacked him, until he saw Ratchet's Autobrand and calmed down. {{storylink|Repeat Performance!}}

''[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] was uncomfortable taking orders from [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], who was still wearing a Decepticon insignia.'' {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}} Jetfire officially became an Autobot after going through the [[Rite of the Autobrand]]. To better disguise themselves on Earth, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] installed [[shielding circuitry]] into the Autobots which enabled a metal sheet to cover their Autobot symbols in [[alternate mode]]. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}

The [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] fooled [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] into thinking they were Autobots by wearing fake Autobot symbols. {{storylink|Gone but Not Forgotten!}} The [[Sports Car Patrol]] tricked Ratchet into thinking they were Autobots by wearing counterfeit Autobot symbols—Decepticon and Autobot symbols on a rotating plate so they could switch back and forth. {{storylink|Back from the Dead}}

Megatron spent some time on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s [[Dead End (place)|Dead End]] district as an [[Empties|Empty]]. His mind was damaged and he just wandered about the place until the sight of an Autobot wearing an Autobot symbol snapped him out of it. {{storylink|The Resurrection Gambit!}}

===Beast Wars===

[[Rattrap]]'s Maximal insignia once morphed into a Predacon one (and later back again). No other Transformer showed they could do this, and he only used it for a con. {{storylink|Double Jeopardy}}

When the [[Transmuter]] turned [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] into a Predacon, it automatically changed his insignia as well as giving him a [[redeco]]. {{storylink|Dark Designs (episode)|Dark Designs}} Likewise, [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] gained Decepticon insignia while he was possessed by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]].

{{storylink|Possession}} [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] sported both a Decepticon and Predacon insignia while working as a Predacon secret agent. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}}

[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] ''pulled his insignia off'' like it was a sticker when renouncing his Predacon membership. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

===Unicron Trilogy===
[[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]] could change his insignia from Autobot to Decepticon — an ability he utilised for deceptive purposes. {{storylink|Credulous}} {{storylink|Ship}}

==Generation 1==
===Prehistory===
<gallery>
Image:Ancient Transformer Symbol.png|'''Ancient [[Transformer]]''' ''This ancient symbol was discovered by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. He claims that although Transformers have been split into two races, they are one species.'' {{storylink|Generation One (Dreamwave comic)|Generation One}}
Image:Ancient Autobot Symbol.png|'''Autobot''' ''This symbol appeared on the forehead of [[Ancient Robot]], who spoke to [[Rodimus Prime (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] within the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]].'' {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4|FFoD}}
Image:Fallen faction symbol.png|'''[[The Fallen]]''' ''This symbol was only used on the [[Titanium]] toyline representation of the Fallen. It was not used in [[The War Within]] or any other fiction.''
</gallery>

===Pre-War {{storylink|Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin}}===
<gallery>
Image:Megatron Origin Symbol.png|'''[[Clench (G2)|Clench]]''' ''This symbol was worn by Clench and his team in [[Kaon]]'s [[Gladiatorial combat|illegal pitfights]] prior to the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. After [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] replaced Clench as team captain he retained the symbol for a time before developing the Decepticon insignia as his team emblem.''
Image:Security_symbol_Megatron_Origin.png|'''Security Services''' ''This symbol is used by the Autobot Security Services crew operating under [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] and was seen on the flags draped over the coffins at the state funeral of operatives [[Fastback]] and [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]].''
Image:Ratbat symbol Megatron Origins.png|'''[[Senate]]-related symbol''' ''This symbol was worn by the crew of Senator [[Decimus]]'s ship, as well as by [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] during his senatorial days.''
</gallery>
===The War Within===
<gallery>
Image:War Within Autobot Symbol.png|'''Autobot''' Used in {{storylink|The War Within}} but not {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages|The Dark Ages}}
Image:Decepticon warwithin symbol.png|'''Decepticon''' Used in {{storylink|The War Within}} but not {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages|The Dark Ages}}
Image:Emirate Xeon symbol.png|'''[[Emirate Xeon]]''' ''This symbol appeared on the helmet of the departed politician Emirate Xeon.''{{storylink|The War Within issue 2}}
Image:Ultracon symbol.png|'''[[Ultracon]]''' ''Used by [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]'s group.''{{storylink|War Within: The Age of Wrath|The Age of Wrath}}
</gallery>

===The Great War===
<gallery>
Image:Symbol autobot reg.png|'''[[Autobot]]''' ''It seems likely that in the real world, the Autobot symbol was derived from a stylized drawing of [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s toy's head. In the Marvel Comics continuity, it was known as the "Autobrand" and was seemingly based on the face of the [[Last Autobot]]. In the original animated series, it was a mark of the [[Quintesson]] slave brand.''
Image:Symbol autobot dx edit.jpg|''The Autobot symbol as it appeared on Generation 1 toy packaging.''
Image:Symbol decept reg.jpg|'''[[Decepticon]]''' ''It seems likely that in the real world, the Decepticon symbol was derived from a stylized drawing of [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s toy's head. It has no given origin in either comic or cartoon, but in the latter, it presumably has the same origin as the Autobot symbol.''
Image:DConsym.gif|''The Decepticon symbol as it appeared on Generation 1 toy packaging. Note the bevelled detail in the center of the crest at the top - the model sheet of the symbol created for the [[Generation 1 (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] based on this version misinterpreted it as a third spike, and it appeared in the show rendered in this manner almost universally.''
Image:Shocksymb.jpg|'''[[Cybertron Guard]]''' ''This symbol represents the Decepticons under [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s command charged with Cybertron's security. It was [[Retcon|retroactively]] named in 2007 by TakaraTomy's [[World of Transformers]] website, but unnamed in its original context.'' {{storylink|Divide and Conquer|Divide and Conquer}}
Image:Wreckers symbol.png|'''[[Wrecker|Wreckers]]''' ''This symbol was used by the Wreckers in the [[3H]] Wreckers/Universe comics, and debuted in 2001. It is uncertain if prior incarnations of the team used this insignia or if it came into use after the signing of the [[Pax Cybertronia]].'' {{storylink|Departure|Departure}}
Image:Rubsign inactive.png|'''[[Rubsign]]''' ''Unactivated rubsign.''
</gallery>

===Non-Cybertronian Insignia===
<gallery>
Image:EDC Symbol.png|'''[[Earth Defense Command|EDC]] (cartoon)'''
Image:DW EDC.png|'''[[Earth Defense Command|EDC]] (Dreamwave)'''
Image:Federation of western europe.jpg|'''[[Federation of Western Europe]]'''
Image:Machination logo.png|'''[[Machination]]'''
Image:Quintesson symbol.png|'''[[Quintesson]]''' ''This symbol was featured as part of the decal set for the [[e-Hobby]] exclusive [[Overcharge (G1)|Overcharge]] [[Drone|drones]].''
Image:Blendtron red.png|'''[[Herald of Unicron]]''' ''Used in the [[The Ark: A Complete Compendium of Character Designs]] book to denote Unicron
Image:Z Foundation.png|'''[[Z Foundation]]'''
Image:Zarak Consortium Logo.png|'''[[Zarak Consortium]]'''
Image:Robot-Master faction.png|'''[[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]]'''
</gallery>

===Kiss Players===
''These symbols were used by the [[Sparkbot|Sparkbots]] in '''Kiss Play Position'''.''
<gallery>
Image:Sparkbot Angela symbol.gif|'''[[Angela]]'''
Image:Sparkbot Stardust symbol.gif|'''[[Stardust]]'''
Image:Sparkbot Zangetsu symbol.gif|'''[[Zangetsu]]'''
</gallery>
===Brazilian G1===
''These faction symbols were used in the Brazilian [[Estrela]] releases of the [[Micro Change|Microchange]] "Mini Car Robo" subline molds.''
<gallery>
Image:Optimus symbol.png|'''[[Optimus (faction)|Optimus]]'''
Image:Malignus symbol.png|'''[[Malignus]]'''
</gallery>
==G.I. Joe Crossovers==
<gallery>
Image:Cobralogo.gif|'''[[Cobra]]'''
Image:Joelogo.gif|'''[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]]'''
Image:ActionForce_Logo.jpg|'''[[Action Force (team)|Action Force]] (European version of the brand)'''
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==Generation 2==
<gallery>
Image:Auto-g2.png|'''Autobot''' ''The G2 Autobot symbol seems clearly based on [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. In the Marvel Comics continuity this change may have occurred since the [[Last Autobot]] had come and gone.''
Image:Con-g2.png|'''Decepticon''' ''The G2 Decepticon symbol seems to be a stylized, updated G1 Decepticon symbol. Bludgeon's Decepticons adopted this symbol around 1991, apparently unaware it was also being used by the Cybertronian Empire that they would soon encounter.''
Image:Cybertronian.png|'''[[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian]]''' ''This symbol was used by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus's]] Cybertronian Empire, who considered themselves neither Autobot nor Decepticon.''
Image:Cybertron-federation.png|'''[[Cybertron Alliance]]''' ''This was only used in Japanese continuity to bridge [[Return of Convoy (franchise)|Return of Convoy]] and [[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]].''
</gallery>

==Beast Era==
===Beast Wars===
<gallery>
Image:Maximal symbol.png|'''[[Maximal]]'''
Image:Predacon symbol.png|'''[[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]'''
Image:Mutants symbol.png|'''[[Mutant (BW)|Mutant]]'''
Image:Maximal Guard Insignia.png|'''Maximal Peacekeeper''' ''Worn by knight-like Maximal soldiers/peacekeepers in [[The Ascending|Beast Wars: The Ascending]].''
</gallery>
*'''[[Predacon (G1)]]'''
''These symbols appeared on the walls of a transwarp shunt room used by [[Magmatron]] in IDW's [[The Gathering|Beast Wars: The Gathering]]. Although never explicitly stated, they apparently denote the original Predacon combiner team.''
<gallery>
Image:Razorclaw Symbol.png|'''[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]'''
Image:Tantrum Symbol.png|'''[[Tantrum]]'''
Image:Divebomb symbol.png|'''[[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]]'''
Image:Headstrong symbol.png|'''[[Headstrong]]'''
Image:Rampage symbol.png|'''[[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]]'''
</gallery>

===Beast Wars II===
<gallery>
Image:Moon symbol clean.png|'''[[Moon (BWII)|Moon]]'''
Image:Space pirate seacon sign.jpg|'''Space Pirate [[Seacon (BWII)|Seacons]]'''
</gallery>
===Beast Wars Neo===
<gallery>
Image:Blendtron red.png|'''[[Blendtron]] / [[Herald of Unicron]]'''
</gallery>
===Beast Machines===
<gallery>
Image:Maximal symbol bm.png|'''Maximal'''
Image:Vehicon symbol.png|'''[[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]]'''
Image:Dinobots symbol.png|'''[[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobot]]''' ''This insignia replaced the [[Spark crystal|spark crystals]] of the [[Beast Wars Neo (franchise)|Beast Wars Neo]] toys that were introduced to the Beast Machines toyline.''
Image:Timelines Predacon Symbol.png|'''Predacon ([[Timelines (fiction)|Timelines]])''' ''Worn by [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] in ''[[Dawn of Future's Past]]''.''
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==Car Robots==
<gallery>
Image:Car Robots Destron.png|''Takara used this symbol to represent the Combatron (Decepticon in ''Robots in Disguise'') sub-group in ''Car Robots''—it's an upside-down ''Generation 2'' Autobot symbol, which had been molded into the [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]] toy, a redeco of ''Generation 2'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Laser Optimus Prime]]. The Hasbro version removed them and used the traditional Decepticon symbol. Though it can be briefly seen several times in the cartoon, this symbol does not "exist" in the English version.''
</gallery>
==Unicron Trilogy==
===Armada===
<gallery>
Image:Minicon symbol.png|'''[[Mini-Con]]''' ''This symbol hints at the origins of the Mini-Cons, in that the "M" is echoed in Unicron's face, with the border representing the planet-eater's orbital ring.''
Image:Unicronsymbol dwmtmte.png|'''[[Unicron]]''' ''Used in [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s [[More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|Armada profile book]] to denote Unicron-allied Transformers.''
</gallery>
===Energon===
<gallery>
Image:Energon symbol.svg|'''Energon''' ''Used to denote [[Energon (Energon)|Energon]]. It is a stylized representation of an Autobot [[Energon star]].''
Image:Energon Powerlinx symbol.png|'''[[Powerlinx]] - Black''' ''Used by [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Wing Saber|his]] [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|combiner]] [[Omega Sentinel (Energon)|partners]].''
Image:Energon Powerlinx Gold symbol.png|'''Powerlinx - Gold''' ''Worn by Mega-sized Transformers who can combine with fellow Mega- and Deluxe-sized Transformers.''
Image:Energon Powerlinx Silver symbol.png|'''Powerlinx - Silver''' ''Worn by Deluxe-sized Transformers who can combine with fellow Deluxe- and Mega-sized Transformers.''
Image:Energon Powerlinx Red symbol.png|'''Powerlinx - Red''' ''Worn by Ultra-sized Transformers, who can combine with additional vehicle mode parts to form a "brute mode"''
Image:Energon Powerlinx Blue symbol.png|'''Powerlinx - Blue''' ''Used by the [[Air Team]], the [[Construction Team]], and the [[Destruction Team]].''
Image:Team Ironhide symbol.png|'''[[Team Ironhide]]''' ''An insignia worn by Ironhide and a group of Omni-Cons under his command in an episode of the [[Energon (cartoon)|Energon cartoon]].''
Image:Unicron energon symbol.png|'''[[Unicron]]''' ''Seen in the background of Unicron's transformation sequence in the [[Energon (cartoon)|Energon cartoon]].''
Image:E27 earthfederationlogo.png|'''[[Earth Federation]]''' ''The multi-national organisation that governs [[Earth]] during the 2020s.''
</gallery>
===Cybertron===
<gallery>
Image:Cyber Key symbol Earth.png|'''[[Earth]]''' ''Seen on [[Cyber Key|Cyber Keys]] that belong to Transformers from Earth.''
Image:Cyber Key symbol Velocitron.png|'''[[Velocitron]]''' ''Seen on Cyber Keys that belong to Transformers from the planet Velocitron.''
Image:Cyber Key symbol Jungle Planet.png|'''[[Jungle Planet (Cybertron)|Jungle Planet]]''' ''Seen on Cyber Keys that belong to Transformers from the Jungle Planet.''
Image:Cyber Key symbol Gigantion.png|'''[[Gigantion]]''' ''Seen on Cyber Keys that belong to Transformers from the planet Gigantion.''
Image:Cyber_Key_Combatron.png|'''[[Combatron (planet)|Combatron]]''' ''Seen on Cyber Keys that belong to Transformers from Combatron.''
Image:Cybertron Defence.png|'''[[Cybertron Defense Team]]''' ''Used by [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]], [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]], and [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]], after their collective reconstruction.''
</gallery>

==Live-action movie franchise==
===2007 movie===
''For the 2007 movie, the Autobot and Decepticon factions were rendered in the steely gray seen below. Additionally- the Autobot and Decepticons were strongly associated with the colors blue and red, which led to the Autobot symbol appearing in blue in multiple media. Nonetheless the 'official colors' of said symbols remains red and purple.''
<gallery>
Image:Live action Autobot insignia.png|'''Autobot''' ''The biggest change is that the tops of the eye sockets, horizontal in the G1 symbol, tip down towards the middle in the Movie symbol. There are other minor differences in proportions and angles.''
Image:Live action Decepticon insignia.png|'''Decepticon''' ''The G1 symbol has triangular eyes, as opposed to the skinny diamond eyes in the Movie symbol. Again, there are other minor differences. Perhaps most interesting in this continuity, is that the Decepticon symbol is based upon the face of [[The Fallen]].''
Image:Sector7logo.png|'''[[Sector Seven]]''' ''A Secret organization on earth that is trying to save humanity from the Autobots and Decepticons.''
Image:Elitemountaindewrobots.jpg|'''[[Mountain Dew Robot]]''' ''An elite group of infiltrators determined to steal the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] for their own purposes.''
Image:Stopsector7.gif|'''[[Stop Sector Seven]]''' ''Stop Sector Seven is an organization created to stop Sector Seven. It is headed by [[Agent X]].''
Image:Lunchables brigade symbol.png|'''[[Lunchables Brigade]]''' ''A [[Human|Terran]] radical group advocating the abolition of routine lunches by means of direct mealtime intervention.''
</gallery>

===Revenge of the Fallen===
<gallery>
Image:NEST insignia.png|'''[[NEST]]''' ''Depicted on vehicles and uniforms of NEST personnel. Variations include a version with Autobot insignia over top.''

Image:NEST Global Alliance.jpg|'''[[NEST]]''' ''Insignia used on Autobot toys from the [[NEST Global Alliance]] refresh subline.''
</gallery>

==[[Transtech]]==
<gallery>
Image:Transtech Autobot symbol.png|'''Autobot'''
Image:Transtech Decepticon symbol.png|'''Decepticon'''
Image:Axion Nexus Security Administration symbol.gif|'''[[Axiom Nexus Security Administration]]'''
</gallery>
==Shattered Glass==
''The alternate reality of the [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] timeline posits an army of evil Cybertronians united under the leering visage of a purple insignia badge... though probably not the one you were expecting.''
<gallery>
Image:Autobot Shattered Glass.png|'''Autobot'''
Image:Autobotsecretpolice.png|'''Autobot [[Secret Police]]''' ''Worn by [[Nightbeat (SG)|Nightbeat]] and presumably his subordinates.''
Image:Cust Class Thunderclash Insignia.png|'''Elite Guard''' ''Worn by [[Thunderclash (SG)|Thunderclash]] and presumably his subordinates.''
Image:Decepticon Shattered Glass.png|'''Decepticon'''
Image:SG Elite Guard Ancient.png|'''Elite Guard''' ''Worn by [[Thunderwing (SG)|Thunderwing]] and presumably all pre-war officers of the Elite Guard.''
</gallery>

==Transformers Animated==
<gallery>
Image:Cyb Elite Guard Badge.png|'''[[Cybertron Elite Guard]]''' ''This insignia is used by the elite forces under the command of [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]].''
Image:Sumdac Systems.PNG|'''[[Sumdac Systems]]''' ''The corporate logo of [[Isaac Sumdac]]'s company, as seen in the foyer of [[Sumdac Tower]].''
Image:TFA Autotrooper Badge.png|'''[[Autotrooper]]''' ''Worn by the security and peacekeeping forces of Cybertron.''
</gallery>

==Alternity==
<gallery>
Image:Protector Insignia.png|'''[[Protector]]s''' ''This insignia was seen worn by the [[synthoid]] [[Elita Seven]], a member of the Protectors. Its basis is [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s face, in accordance with his stated function as "Protector."''
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==Star Wars Crossovers==
<gallery>
Image:Alliance Starbird.svg|'''[[Rebel Alliance]]'''
Image:Republic Emblem.svg|'''[[Galactic Republic]]'''
Image:Imperial_Emblem.svg|'''[[Empire]]'''
Image:Sith Logo.jpg|'''[[Sith]]'''
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==Disney Label==
<gallery>
Image:MickeyMouseTransformer.png|'''[[Mickey Mouse]]'''
Image:Donald Disney Label Insignia.png|'''[[Donald Duck]]'''
</gallery>

==Others==
<gallery>
Image:Autotots sigil.png|'''[[Autotot]]'''
Image:Gobots auto symbol.png|'''[[Go-Bots (toyline)|Go-bot]]'''
Image:Playschool Go-Bots G.png|'''[[Go-Bots (toyline)|Go-bot]]'''
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==Unused concepts==
<gallery>
Image:Cobra Decepticon symbol.png|'''Cobra/Decepticon''' ''Used for promotion of [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers|the comic]], not in the actual story.''
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==Files==
* [[:Image:Transformers Symbols.ttf| Transformers Insignias True Type Font]]

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Talk:Dracula

2010-04-16T04:44:51Z

HotAndCold:

I really don't like what's been done to this article. In the Transformers multiverse "Dracula is both a fearsome transforming robot and a famous novel of the same name" is not actually true at all. It is only a novel. I don't understand why characters from a toyline that never happened are being given in-universe write-ups, when they don't exist in-universe. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:19, 2 March 2010 (EST)
:Then do you want to separate them? "Dracula (character)" and "Dracula (novel)"? We've made articles for plenty of characters who never made it past the concept art stage, and written in-universe at that. I don't see why these characters should be excluded just because they're silly. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:27, 2 March 2010 (EST)
::It's not just because they're silly, it's because the article as it stands make it sounds like there's a robot Dracula running around somewhere in the TF universe, when there is actually no such thing. No, we don't need a separate article, the stuff about the never-produced toy from the line that never existed should just be treated like the trivia that it is. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:33, 2 March 2010 (EST)
:::I don't see why [[Albitron]] can have a page but Dracula can't, neither one exists as a TF. But, I do think that having the novel and the character concept on one page is kind of clunky. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:42, 3 March 2010 (EST)
::::I didn't say anything about the characters not having pages. I just don't think the pages should be written in-universe for characters who ''don't exist in-universe''. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 10:55, 3 March 2010 (EST)
::::There's also no reason to think this character would have actually been named Dracula. That just seems unlikely to me. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 18:07, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::The fact that the character was supposed to be part of a "[[Vintage Horror Movie Series]]" would suggest there is a reason to think it would've been named Dracula. Are there any other vampire movies notable enough to be in such a series? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 00:13, 16 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::Nosferatu could be, but this guy is definitely more of a Dracula than a Nosferatu. --[[User:HotAndCold|HotAndCold]] 00:44, 16 April 2010 (EDT)

Personally, I just wish the image caption was [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjv7oEqv92U "Suck your ass on away from here is what you better do! Hope you get sickle cell!"] [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 14:41, 15 April 2010 (EDT)

Transform and Roll Out

2010-04-12T09:45:14Z

HotAndCold: Grammar fixes

{{disambig2|the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]] multi-part episode|the command|roll out}}
{{episode|
|series=Anitoon
|series2=
|image=TFA_TFandRollout_AutobotHeroes.jpg
|caption=''Epic''
|next=Home Is Where the Spark Is
|next2=Sound and Fury
|ep=1, 2 and 3
|next=Home Is Where the Spark Is
|title="Transform and Roll Out"
|airdate=[[December 26]], [[2007]] (US) [[April 3]], [[April 10]], [[April 17]], [[2010]] (JP)
|written by=[[Marty Isenberg]]
|directed by= [[Matt Youngberg]] [[Yutaka Kagawa]] [[Minoru Yamaoka]] [[Makoto Fuchigami]]
|animation studio= [[Mook]]}}
'''When a small crew of maintenance Autobots comes into possession of the powerful AllSpark, a battle with their long-forgotten enemies sends them crashing toward a strange, distant planet known as... ''Earth.'''''

:''Japanese title (Part 1):'' 新章! トランスフォーマー (''Shinshō! Transformer'', "A New Chapter! Transformers")
:''Japanese title (Part 2):'' 英雄、その名はオートボット (''Eiyū, sono na wa Autobot'', "The Heroes Are Called Autobots")
:''Japanese title (Part 3):'' オールスパークの秘密 (''AllSpark no himitsu'', "Secret of the AllSpark")
:''German title:'' "'''Transformieren und Abfahrt'''"
:''Polish title:'' "'''Transformacja i jazda'''" ("Transform and Roll Out")

==Synopsis==
===Part 1===
In deep, deep space, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] watches a history vid of the [[Great War (Animated)|Great War]], prompting [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] to complain about him watching that "junk" when the other members of the crew need assistance. Prime wonders if they were designed for more than repairing [[space bridge]]s. The two 'Bots transform into their vehicle modes and head out into the asteroid field.

[[Image:TFA TFandRollout TheAllsparkdiscovered.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Well... at least there's no mass-shifting.]]
Outside, [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]], dangling from a high rock by his wrecking ball (and becoming quite queasy in the process), is freed by [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], who also ends up taking a tumble. Bumblebee complains about the sheer amount of rocks blocking the space bridge node, and one is shattered unexpectedly by [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]]'s throwing star. Prime gives his troops a speech about teamwork (which Prowl moans at theatrically), but at that point the space bridge lights up, sending rocks and Autobots flying. Fancy footwork by Optimus saves each of his teammates from the debris, and a well-aimed grappling line shuts down the bridge. With his subordinates stunned at their leader's skills, Prime is forced to admit he trained at [[Autobot Academy|Cybertron's military academy]]. Bumblebee's query as to what the heck he's doing on a nowhere maintenance assignment is left unanswered as they notice something glowing in the rubble.

Prime clears away the debris to reveal a large, chest-like object. Ratchet is horrified and immediately demands they throw it back into the space bridge, but an alert from [[Teletran-1]] announces the arrival of a signature consistent with the long-lost [[Decepticon]]s. Ratchet then insists they take the object and just get out of there post-haste.

[[Image:TFA TFandRollout Decepticonship.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Yes, this is a scout ship. Way to go, Magnanimous.]]
On board [[Teletran-1|their ship]], Ratchet finally reveals what they've found: the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]], the source of all Transformer life that was lost centuries ago. Optimus, worried about the oncoming Decepticon signal, contacts the [[Cybertron Elite Guard]] for help. After taking a bit of snark from [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]], Optimus reveals what they found, which shuts Sentinel up fast. Sentinel then puts the crew through to [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]], who tells Optimus Prime to stay put while they send reinforcements... and not to worry about that Decepticon thing. Optimus, considering this to be a really stupid move, orders the crew to start booking it out of there.

[[Image:Ani crew.JPG|left|200px|thumb|Scotty, engage!]]
This proves wise, as the signal is indeed a Decepticon ship—a [[Nemesis (Animated)|command ship]], in fact. The identification markings are ones that Optimus and Ratchet recognize, meaning its commander can only be one person: [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], leader of the Decepticons. On board the Decepticon ship, [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] doubts the AllSpark is aboard the Autobot ship and declares Megatron a fool. [[Lugnut]] denounces Starscream as a traitor, while [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] calls Lugnut an idiot for his blind loyalty and [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] just acts... well, crazy. The Decepticons continue to bicker at each other until Megatron enters, shutting up all of them. The Decepticons chase the Autobot ship, and Starscream volunteers to board them. Megatron quickly shoots that idea down. Just before he leaves, Starscream wishes his commander "luck" with a pat on the back... affixing a bomb to Megatron in the process.

Megatron makes his way to the Autobots' ship and begins to melt his way through its hull. Optimus uses external manipulator arms to grapple with Megatron, until the bomb detonates, sending the ship careening uncontrollably into a space bridge node, which explodes after they go through the gate. Starscream begins to make a speech declaring himself the new Decepticon leader, but the other three have abandoned ship, noting that the fireball from the space bridge explosion is only getting larger. Too late, Starscream realizes the trouble he's in...

An unknown distance away, the Autobot ship reappears above a [[Earth|small blue and green planet]]. Prime checks on his troops, but Megatron has gotten aboard, having survived the explosion, but at the cost of his right arm. Prime uses his grappling line to shut off the gravity, making it more difficult for Megatron to fight. All five Autobots face off against the Decepticon, but he's too strong (though Prowl does manage to cut off Megatron's damaged arm). Prime and Megatron both end up in the storage bay where the AllSpark is... and as the ship enters the atmosphere, Prime is able to blow the hatch and kick the screaming Megatron out of the ship.

[[Image:TFA TFandRollout Arkatmosphere.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Oddly familiar.]]
On a small farm, a young boy hears a thud and runs to where something has landed in a not-too-distant field. He is shocked to find a robotic head staring lifelessly up at him.

Meanwhile, Prime orders his team into emergency stasis pods to prepare for a crash-landing. He manages to steer the ship away from the city below and gets to a stasis pod just before the ship plunges into [[Lake Erie]].

Fifty years later, [[Detroit]] is once again a thriving city, but instead of manufacturing automobiles, robots are the city's stock-in-trade. [[Isaac Sumdac]] is talking to a public school class taking a tour of his facilities, which gets interrupted by Isaac's daughter, [[Sari Sumdac]], and her robot dog, [[Sparkplug (robot dog)|Sparkplug]]. As Sari is carted off to her lessons by a [[Tutor Bot|robot tutor]], Isaac shows the school kids a nanotech lab, just in time to witness a roach infused with microbots grow out of control and start consuming everything in sight. Isaac tries to keep things calm, but the monster bursts out of the lab...

===Part 2===
[[Image:TFA TFandRollout Firefighters monster.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Yeah, watering it will surely stop the beast.]]
The monster continues to grow, absorbing just about everything it touches to increase its size and power. In the process, it destroys a lot of the factory. [[Carmine Fanzone|Captain Fanzone]], the S.W.A.T team, the fire department, ambulances, and robot drones arrive, but the creature absorbs several of the responding vehicles, too. Fanzone uses a bazooka-type weapon and destroys the beast, despite Sumdac's objection. This protest proves well-founded, as the remnants of the creature start flowing back together again, save for one piece that drops into the nearby lake and works its way down to the Autobots' ship, its nanites seeking the absorbable technology there. It infiltrates via a small breach in the outer hull, but thankfully, the ship's intruder alert systems are functional and awaken the Autobots before any damage is done. Examining the situation, they decide to have Teletran-1 give them Earth forms so they can blend in and help out. A probe is launched into the chaos and scans various vehicles, including an ambulance, a police motorcycle, an armored personnel carrier, a fire truck, and [[Captain Fanzone's car]]. Everyone deploys except Ratchet, who remains behind to analyze the sample of alien material.

[[Image:TFA TFandRollout Autobots.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Avengers, ASSEMBLE!]]
During the fight, Bulkhead and Bumblebee spot Sari trying to wrest her security key from Sparkplug's mouth. Mistaking which is owner and which is pet, they approach her, but Bulkhead's greeting only scares her away. She quickly gets nabbed by the monster, but Bumblebee saves her, earning her trust and friendship. Prowl attempts to take on the bug-slug by himself, against Prime's orders, and gets absorbed. Prime orders Ratchet to join them in battle to save Prowl, but the old veteran insists that finding a "cure" code to neutralize the nanites' programming makes more sense than coming out and getting trashed. A somewhat chastened Prime agrees, and Ratchet soon delivers the goods. However, the new program must be uploaded by direct contact—meaning from inside the monster. This means the smallest, fastest one of them has to do it. Bumblebee reluctantly takes on the task. The beast has been using some of Prowl's absorbed intelligence and comm link tech, though, so it knows what they're planning and is now smart enough to fight back. Despite this, Bumblebee succeeds in delivering the code, and the bug dissolves into a dusty shower of deactivated nanites. Prowl is soon uncovered, but he's suffered grave wounds and must be taken back to the Autobots' ship for repairs. Sari pesters Bumblebee to be taken along, and her new friend reluctantly agrees, since there's no time to make her go away quietly.

[[Image:TFA TFandRollout Sari followedmehome.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Bumblebee, having a pet is a big responsibility.]]
Once on board, Sari's refusal to stay still and quiet causes 'Bee some embarrassment. He quickly and discreetly ejects her into a ventilation port and joins the others. However, the port opens onto a shaft that takes Sari right to the chamber where the AllSpark is being kept. Curious, she touches it, and it reacts to her, sending its energies into her security card key and reconfiguring it into [[AllSpark Key|a key of another sort entirely]]. Prime finds her almost immediately thereafter, but with no time left to spare away from Prowl, he has to bring her back with him to the repair table. Ratchet's prognosis is bleak, but the [[AllSpark Key]] abruptly reacts, glowing and tugging her toward Prowl. Bumblebee, seeming to grasp what's happening, helps her onto the table, and as she approaches, her Key reshapes itself to fit into a slot on Prowl's chest. She inserts it, and with a burst of energy, the Autobot ninja is whole again. The Autobots then take Sari home and, after a brief misunderstanding, are made heroes and are even invited to a ceremony.

In outer space, Starscream sits aboard the damaged but functional Decepticon ship, babbling that he will find the AllSpark, even though he's been attempting it on his own for the last fifty solar cycles. The ship's computers then detect the traces of AllSpark-like energy in action, and Starscream learns where the Autobots are...
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===Part 3===
[[Image:Sariprime.jpg|right|150px|thumb|INSERT WHAT WHERE?!]]
The Autobots are later seen trying to fit in. Bulkhead gets firsthand experience in traffic jams, some birds mistake Prowl for the statue of the [[wikipedia:Hazen_S._Pingree|bald guy]] next to him, Bumblebee learns how organics fuel up, and Ratchet can't get a stasis nap without getting a dozen or so parking tickets. Optimus Prime remarks that the Autobots are programmed to respect life, which they always understood to stem from the AllSpark, but as organics are life, they must respect and protect them too. Optimus also expresses curiosity about how little organics are made. Sari's whispered explanation leaves him rather... shocked. The Autobots make a new home base out of a building Sari's dad got out of a merger, an abandoned auto factory that Bumblebee describes as a real fixer-upper—a REAL fixer-upper. All of a sudden, they get alerted to a fire. The Autobots proceed to douse the blaze and save its victims, no problem, unaware they are being watched by Starscream.

The next day, during the inauguration ceremony for the Sumdac [[Fully Automated Rapid Transit System]] (F.A.R.T.S., for short), Starscream enters Earth's atmosphere and takes on a group of fighter jets. He destroys all but one, which he scans. As the civilians and Autobots watch the aerial display of the [[Crimson Angels]], Isaac Sumdac notices there is an extra jet present that he didn't hire. That one jet then leaves the formation and streaks toward the ceremony platform, where it transforms into Starscream, who fires his null-ray cannons at the Autobots.

After a short fight, which the Autobots lose, Starscream knocks out Bumblebee and takes him, Isaac, the mayor, and Capt. Fanzone hostage in the F.A.R.T.S. train, flying it to the top of a very tall tower. He demands that the Autobots deliver the AllSpark if they want him to release the train car. The Autobots don't trust him, but don't want to risk human lives, so Sari offers a plan, but they ignore her. She continues to tell a sob story until the Autobots listen. The Autobots proceed with her plan, and Prowl and Sari fly up to the transit pod to rescue the hostages while the other Autobots keep Starscream busy. Once Starscream realizes what's happening, he takes a brief beating but recovers quickly. Starscream then throws the train—thus keeping his end of the deal—with Sari, Prowl, and Bumblebee on top of/in it. Between Bumblebee's agility and Prowl's thrusters, Sari is rescued and the train lands without much damage. The Autobots then challenge Starscream to a friendly game of Keep Away, during which Starscream almost gets the AllSpark, but Bulkhead gets it instead, because he said he got it. A furious Starscream unleashes a devastating, prolonged (as in nearly 12 seconds) null-ray blast on the Autobots, briefly knocking them all senseless.

[[Image:TFA TFandRollout Prime SS Allsparkactivates.jpg|left|150px|thumb|In the old days, The Touch would have started playing now.]]
With the Autobots down, Starscream takes the AllSpark from Optimus and blows a couple of blocks of Detroit right off the map. Not ready to give up, Optimus climbs all the way up a building to get it back from Starscream, which Starscream doesn't see coming because he was too busy gloating. After a quick back-and-forth exchange of possessing it, both grab it at the same time. As they struggle, the AllSpark opens and emits a strange energy wave that blasts Starscream away.

The explosion has left Prime dangling precariously, and he takes a tremendous plummet to the pavement. He notes weakly that he now knows what it feels like to be a hero, then dies, but Sari uses the AllSpark Key to revive him.<ref>[[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|This is something of an Optimus Prime record]]: Dead after only three episodes, revived a mere 75 seconds later. Way to go.</ref> The Autobots later go about fixing up Detroit, earning the enduring gratitude of the citizenry. Professor Sumdac is also grateful, for the Autobots saved him and Sari, but he fears what will happen if the Autobots—not to mention the rest of the world—were to discover the source of his robotic empire.

Unseen by Sumdac, one of the [[Sensors|optics]] of his source of technology glows in a darkened room. Megatron still functions...
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==Featured characters==
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*[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] (1)
*[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] (2)
*[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] (3)
*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (4)
*[[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] (5)
*[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] (6)
*[[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] (7)

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*[[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] (8)
*[[Lugnut]] (9)
*[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] (10)
*[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] (11)
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] (12)

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*[[Isaac Sumdac]] (13)
*[[Daniel Witwicky (Animated)|Daniel]] (14)
*[[Spike Witwicky (Animated)|Spike]] (15)
*[[Carly Witwicky (Animated)|Carly]] (16)
*[[Sari Sumdac]] (17)
*[[Carmine Fanzone|Captain Fanzone]] (18)

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*[[Teletran-1]] ()
*[[Sparkplug (robot dog)|Sparkplug]] ()
*[[Tutor Bot]] ()
*[[Burger Bot]] ()}}

==Quotes==
"Do you ever get the feeling that you were programmed for something more than just repairing space bridges?" 
"I got a diagnostics program that can delete that feeling like a bad line of code."
:—'''Optimus Prime''''s dreams are crushed to a fine powder by '''Ratchet'''

"Know what? You're even uglier at this angle!"
:—'''Bumblebee''' is about to realize there are some things you should never, EVER, say to a Decepticon.

"Hi, I'm Bumblebee!" 
"I'm Sari." 
"Oh, don't be, I like my name."
:—'''Bumblebee''' and '''Sari''' are off to an awkward start.

"Y'know, all things considered, fixin' space bridges wasn't such a bad gig."
:—'''Bumblebee''', just before embarking on the plan to dissolve the bug monster

"Uh...am I going to be able to ''breathe'' down there?" 
"Oh, sure! ...What's 'breathe'?"
:—'''Sari''' is in good hands with '''Bumblebee'''.

"And to think, Ultra Magnus told me not to be a hero. Is this what it was like in your day?" 
"The Decepticons didn't leave us very much to cheer about."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Ratchet''' at the ceremony

"Enjoy it while you can, 'heroes.' You're about to take a fall."
:—'''Starscream''', watching a news report on the Autobots

"Give up the AllSpark or give up the Earth. How am I supposed to decide?" 
"Heroes are the ones who make the hard choices."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Ratchet''' after Starscream makes his ultimatum

"Let go, Autobot!" 
"Never! The AllSpark is life!" 
"Then, let it end yours!"
:—'''Starscream''' and '''Optimus Prime''', fighting over the AllSpark

"So, this...is what it feels like...to be a hero."
:—'''Optimus Prime''', just before dying

"Fixing bridges? Isn't this where we started out?"
:—'''Bumblebee''', as the Autobots clean up the city

==Home releases==
[[Image:Animatedshort01.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Meet the Press lives on through our young ones.]]
"Transform and Roll Out" was released to DVD by Paramount Home Entertainment on June 17, 2008. The DVD includes all three episodes of the pilot movie and two all-new animated shorts. [[Career Day|The first short]] features Optimus Prime attempting to give a speech at [[Black River Elementary School]]'s career day, but being repeatedly interrupted by nagging questions from [[Daniel Witwicky (Animated)|some little kid]] and overwhelming cheers for him to transform. [[Evel Knievel Jump|The second]] features Bumblebee messing up one of Prowl's cool stunts. Together, the two shorts run just under three minutes.

Target sold an [[exclusive]] version of the DVD with a special bonus disc that included the episode "[[Home Is Where the Spark Is]]."

All three episodes were also condensed and re-told in the [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] paperback "cine-manga" style book ''[[Transformers Animated Volume 1]]''.
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==Notes==
===Japanese version (Part 1)===
*The episode begins with the entire [[Otoboto family]] gathered as Yūka and Tatsuya tell the viewers in unison to watch in a well-lit room (to prevent seizures and damage to your eyesight, you know).

*As the [[title sequence]] begins, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] asks how everyone is doing, then introduces himself as leader of the Autobots. When he realizes nobody knows who he is, he ''assures'' them that he's leader of the Autobots. Then the [[Transformers Evo.|theme song]] starts.

* '''Cut:''' Ratchet and Optimus's conversation as they walk down a hall, where Prime refers to feeling like being meant for "more than just repairing space bridges", and Ratchet's snarky response about deleting that feeling "like a bad line of code".

* '''Cut:''' Bulkhead's comment on their medic being always grumpy, Ratchet responding to Bumblebee's "old man" comment with a smack upside the head and the retort of "I may have one servor in the scrapheap, but I can still hear!".

*The usual cries of "Transform!" and attack names are added in. ([[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]'s "stingers" are now called "Energy Stingers", for instance.) Perhaps most annoyingly, ''every single thing Optimus does'' has the prefix of "Ultra" added to it. In the span of ten seconds, he goes through his "Ultra Anchor", "Ultra Axe" and "Ultra Net" attacks.

* '''Cut:''' After shutting down the space bridge, the following sequence where Ratchet is repairing Bumblebee, Bulkhead commenting about Optimus's moves, Optimus reluctantly admitting that he used to train at the Academy, and Bumblebee saying that he should've been with the Elite Guard.

* '''Cut:''' Ratchet's poking back at Optimus wanting to see some action, Bumblebee pointing out they're repair bots, Optimus correcting on not without backup and Bulkhead in awe on them connecting with Cybertron Command Headquarters.

*[[Teletran-1]] now speaks as though "she" is in a state of perpetual orgasm.

*When the Autobots first happen upon the ''[[Nemesis (Animated)|Nemesis]]'' and all freak over [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], a new [[scene transition]] is added when transitioning into the discussion between the Decepticon forces. A guitar riff of the classic Generation 1 scene transition music is even used.

*[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]]'s "hothead" persona now speaks with a thick American accent, spouting English words like "Hey!" and "Man!"

*New [[commercial bumper]]s have been crafted, featuring stock art of the characters with their voice actors screaming their name, followed by "Transform!"

*'''Cut:''' [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]]'s entire speech on the bridge ("This is a dark day...") followed by him getting caught in the explosion.

*When Bulkhead tumbles into Optimus, following his line "A little warning would have helped!", he screams out "Mommyyyyyyy!" Yeah, Japanese Bulkhead ain't so smart.

*'''Cut:''' After Megatron is kicked from the ship, the establishing shots of Paw Paw (the street sign, the outside of the barn and the scroll across [[Isaac Sumdac]]'s lab).

*'''Cut:''' Following Prime's line "Not until I've steered us clear of this populated sector!", the brief scenes of the Autobots being sealed in their stasis pods.

*'''Cut:''' As soon as the ship crashes into Lake Eerie and leaves a stream of upturned water on the surface, the scenes of the ship sinking and Teletran-1 "initiating emergency stasis mode" on the pods as they turn grey. The episode resumes at the long shot of the sinking ship slowly coming toward the camera, with a new voice-over of Teletran-1 telling the Autobots "good night".

*'''Cut:''' As Isaac Sumdac narrates the history of Detroit and automaton manufacturing, the scene of the trash-collecting automaton has been cut.

*'''Cut:''' The scenes of [[Sari Sumdac|Sari]] pulling the bubblegum off her face, eating it, the crowd reacting in disgust, Isaac Sumdac reacting in frustration, the kid asking Sari what its like to grow up around robots and [[Tutor Bot]] hauling Sari off.

*'''Cut:''' After the cockroach absorbs the nanobot liquid, all the scenes involving Isaac Sumdac explaining the nanobots to the children and the children looking through microscopes at the nanobots. The sequence cuts to the roach growing bigger.

*'''Cut:''' The close-up of Isaac Sumdac saying "Nothing to be concerned about, children!" and the kid remarking that "This accident doesn't look too happy". The sequence cuts to the roach crashing through the window behind him.

*The Otoboto Family segment features [[Hiroyuki Otoboto]] telling his son, [[Tatsuya Otoboto]], about ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'', complete with clips from "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]". Mr. Otoboto then produces a complete set of ''Animated'' Autobot toys. Tatsuya is thrilled, but wouldn't ya know it? [[Megumi Otoboto|Mrs. Otoboto]] comes in with dinner! During mealtime conversation, Mrs. Otoboto makes the mistake of using the word "transform", which inevitably causes Tatsuya to start talking about Transformers, much to the amusement of his father and the annoyance of his older sister, [[Yūka Otoboto|Yūka]]. Tatsuya then causes a "freeze frame" so that he can introduce himself and his family (messing with his father's glasses in the process for his own amusement). Oddly, despite being "frozen", everyone proceeds to blink. As time resumes its normal pace, Hiroyuki wonders what happened to his glasses. He then digs into his dinner, except, oh no! It's too hot! ''Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!''

*During the "next episode" segment, Optimus Prime and Bumblebee proceed to have an argument. Bumblebee thinks Optimus's name is too long and hard to remember. Bumblebee suggests that "[[Convoy]]" would be better, but Prime shoots the idea down immediately. Bumblebee opts to call him "Oputi", since it has fewer syllables. Prime refuses to be called such a name (more fitting for a dog), so Bumblebee settles on "Pu-Pu" after "Opura" is also rejected. Prime refuses that too, thinking it sounds cute, but that it would be hard not to laugh instinctively at it. Bumblebee then tricks Prime into answering to it, which frustrates him even ''further''. The argument proceeds ''past'' the "next episode" segment and straight into the sponsor cards.

===Japanese version (Part 2)===

*Hiroyuki and Tatsuya Otoboto tell the viewers in unison to watch the episode in a well-lit room (with Hiroyuki giving a creepy wink at the end).

*Instead of Optimus introducing at the opening, Bumblebee introduces himself and tells viewers to listen to [[JAM Project]]'s [[Transformers Evo.|cool song]].

*'''Cut:''' The rush of emergency vehicles driving through the city, alongside the following scene of Fanzone getting into his car, preparing to enjoy lunch at Burger Bot, and receiving the emergency call before departing.

*'''Cut:''' Fanzone arriving at Sumdac laboratories, his little dilemma with the broken megaphone, and his first directions to the police force.

*Optimus now has "Ultra Jump" added to his "arsenal" as he distracts the nano-monster.

*Bulkhead now says "''dosukoi''" on occasion, a word usually used by [[Wikipedia:Sumo|sumo wrestlers]].

*'''Cut:''' The left-to-right pan of the ruined laboratory where the tour had taken place.

*'''Cut:''' Much of the flying debris from the monster falling into the ocean.

* During the [[trans-scan|trans-scanning]], Teletran-1 announces the type of vehicle being scanned and the Autobots as they are reformatted.

*'''Cut:''' Fanzone noticing the four vehicles confronting the monster and attempting to call them back before noticing that they are unmanned and include his own car.

*'''Cut:''' Immediately after the previous cut, the scene where Bulkhead and Bumblebee attempt to converse with the police drones while fighting the monster.

*The joke on Sari's name - "I'm Bumblebee." "I'm Sari." "Oh, don't be. I like my name." "No, I mean my name is..." - is somewhat altered. Instead, Bumblebee "corrects" her that he's not "sari".

*'''Cut:''' After Bumblebee takes Sari into the parking garage, Fanzone's and Dr. Sumdac's observation of Bumblebee and his unknown purposes, and the ordering the police drones to save Sari.

*Bumblebee counts off while disabling the police drones, and he has an extra line even though his mouth doesn't move.

*'''Cut:''' Ratchet's comment on Optimus being a "typical [[Autobot Academy|Academy Bot]]", along with a shot of the computer analysis of the monster.

*'''Cut:''' Sari's gasp when Bumblebee is jumping at the monster.

* When Sari reassures Ratchet that humans "don't usually blow up things" with emergency symbols, Ratchet comments about being treated kindly.

*'''Cut:''' After Dr. Sumdac shakes hands with Optimus at the ceremony, Optimus's comment regarding not being a hero, his question to Ratchet about things being "like this in your day", and Ratchet's rather ominous response.

*'''Cut:''' After the ceremony, the foreshadowing scene in which Starscream is seen monologuing in the crashed ''Nemesis'' on the Moon.

*For the Otoboto family segment, Hiroyuki and Tatsuya are playing on the living room carpet with their toys (Hiroyuki and his Optimus Prime against Tatsuya and his Bumblebee). Filled with nostalgia, Hiroyuki begins describing the Autobots and the roles of each character to the audience, only to have Tatsuya beat him to the punch by ending all his sentences. Suddenly, they hear a crashing sound coming from the kitchen. Hiroyuki and Tatsuya rise to the occasion, shout "Transform!" and "change" into Optimus Prime and Megatron t-shirts (accompanied by their own dramatic "transformation" sequences). But before they can battle the forces of Evil stirring up trouble in the kitchen, they first have to sit back down on the living room floor and transform their toys into vehicle mode. (So, what if there was a burglar beating your wife, dude?) As Hiroyuki completes the transformation of his Optimus toy, we are assured that the "adventure" of the Otoboto family will be continued next episode.

*In the "next episode" segment, Bulkhead asks Ratchet about the name "Transformers Animated", and Bulkhead then mistakenly tells viewers to watch "Transformers Anime". Ratchet later jokes about shortening the title to "Tra-Ani" because the original title is a bit long.

===Japanese version (Part 3)===

===Animation or technical glitches===
* Megatron's vehicle mode was depicted flying upside-down, or backwards, or possibly both. To be fair, in space, there is no up and down (and to be even fairer, it's really hard to tell from the toys exactly what ''is'' the front of Megatron's Cybertronian spaceship mode), but that does not excuse the fact that any propulsion system used would be in the ''back'' of the mode.

*When the Autobot get into the stasis pods, Prime, Bulkhead, and Ratchet are on the left side, with Bumblebee, Prowl, and an empty pod on the right, in that order. Yet when they get out later in the episode, Prime, Bumblebee, and Bulkhead are on the left, and the empty one, Prowl, and Ratchet on the right.

* As pre-Earth Prime enters the chamber which will re-format his body into his Earth mode, he walks past Ratchet, who is drawn mostly in his pre-Earth mode, except for the fact that his Cybertronian gut is replaced with his ambulance gut. In the next scene, Ratchet is properly drawn, pre-Earth gut and all.

* When Sari says to the Autobots it is okay to put down their hands, Bulkhead's face is black.

* When Starscream tackles Optimus Prime through a building as the Autobot tries to escape with the AllSpark, Optimus's axe is missing from Starscream's left wing. It reappears moments later for Optimus to retrieve it.

* In at least one scene, Starscream's Earth-form wing is shown with a spike, in the same manner as his Cybertronian body.

===Continuity errors===
* The train Starscream blasts from the tower falls toward the ground very, very slowly.

* When we first meet Starscream, he states that he has been searching for the AllSpark for fifty ''solar'' cycles. In later episodes, a solar cycle is equivalent to a day and a ''stellar'' cycle is used for years. This is the only time a solar cycle has been used to reference years, so either Starscream entered some sort of temporal anomaly or someone messed up. For more <s>confusion</s> information, See [[Cycle|this page]].

* Sumdac is using Megatron's hand as a chair. However, he seems to be using the right hand, which was blown up by Starscream. (It ''could'' have fallen off the Autobots' ship, as it was still clinging to the hull when last seen, but that seems unlikely.)

===Transformers references===
* The title of the episode itself is a [[Roll out|reference to past Transformers lore]].

* Footage from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|G1 cartoon]] episodes "[[War Dawn]]" and "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" is used as history tapes detailing the events of the first [[Great War (Animated)|Great War]], millions of years prior. [[Canon|This]] has been confirmed as purely an in-joke, and should not be taken as linking ''Animated'' to G1, continuity wise.

* The [[Teletran-1|Autobot ship]] here bears a distinct resemblance to the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], albeit with a colour scheme more reminiscent of [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. (As we learn [[A Bridge Too Close, Part II|much later]], there is [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|a very good reason for that]].)

* Bumblebee says "[[Rattrap|We're all gonna die.]]"

* Sari's robotic dog [[Sparkplug (robot dog)|Sparkplug]] is likely named after either [[Sparkplug Witwicky]] from G1, the ''Armada'' Mini-Con [[Sparkplug (Armada)|Sparkplug]], or both.

[[Image:Spikecarlydanielanimated.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Twenty years later, and they're still overdressed.]]
* Characters resembling [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]], [[Carly]], and [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] are seen at a hot dog stand, purchasing some sort of futuristic bunless wieners-on-a-stick. The characters went on to become recurring figures in the background cast of the show, and in "[[Garbage In, Garbage Out]]" it was revealed that their names were... [[Spike Witwicky (Animated)|Spike]], [[Carly Witwicky (Animated)|Carly]] and [[Daniel Witwicky (Animated)|Daniel Witwicky]].

* When Optimus Prime dies, his body fades to grays, just as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Generation 1 Optimus Prime]] did in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. His spark chamber opens in much the same manner as well.

* Teletran-1 (spelled with only one "a" in this universe) dispatches a small satellite very similar to the [[Sky Spy]] satellite used on occasion by the Autobots in the ''Generation 1'' cartoon. The glowing energy "boxes" with which it scans vehicles for the Autobots to transform into are lifted wholesale out of "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".

* At one point, Bulkhead refers to Optimus as "Boss-bot", echoing an epithet used for ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] by the [[Fuzor]] [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]].

===Notes===
* In this episode, [[Tutor Bot]] tries to teach Sari about the [[wikipedia:Smoot-Hawley_Tariff_Act|Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act]], a major economic blunder of the 1930s.
* Bumblebee's voice is slightly different in this episode from how it sounds later, as is Lugnut's voice, which seems very metallic.
* When Prowl gets birdpooped on, he is standing next to a statue of [[wikipedia:Hazen_S._Pingree|Hazen S. Pingree]], four-term mayor of Detroit and one-time governor of Michigan. In real life, the statue is located in Detroit's Grand Circus Park.
* A refurbished Michigan Central Station makes an appearance as the site for the dedication of Detroit's rapid transit system. The real-life station (abandoned since the '80s) was featured in the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 live-action movie]].
* When mocking the Autobots, Starscream actually calls Megatron "the great Megatron" without any sarcasm. Apparently, he'll only give a sincere compliment to his leader when he's insulting something else. Either that or he's just trying to make ''himself'' sound more impressive by building up the reputation of the one he's defeated.
* When Optimus comes back to life, he asks, "Is this the [[Well of All Sparks]]?" and Sari answers, "No, it's Detroit." This is an allusion to the movie ''Field of Dreams'', in which Shoeless Joe Jackson (Ray Liotta) asks Ray Kinsella (Kevin Costner), "Is this Heaven?" and Ray answers, "No, it's Iowa."
* According to responses at a panel at BotCon 2008, the unfortunate acronym for Fully Automated Rapid Transit System was totally unintentional...which makes it that much funnier.
* Ratchet is able to use his front windshield as a video screen.
* Several elements present in this opener were changed/dropped in the main series, including expressive vehicle modes, the replacement of solar cycles with stellar cycles in terminology, the recolouring of Ratchet's magnetism from yellow to pink, and Sari's Key changing shape. However, the expressions on vehicle mode were briefly used again by [[Wasp]] in the episode [[Predacons Rising]].
* During [[Sari Sumdac|Sari's]] "conversation" with the [[AllSpark (Animated)|AllSpark]], it shows her the faces of Ultra Magnus, Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Starscream, then the Cybertronian [[Alternate mode|vehicle modes]] for Optimus and Ratchet, the AllSpark's case and the [[Teletran-1|Autobots' ship]]. Then Sari unknowingly shows the AllSpark a man in a suit, a woman, a boy, the planet [[Earth]], pyramids, purple flowers, a horse, an aircraft with a giant cloud coming from the back, a cell and a DNA strand. The woman has dark skin and red hair like Sari.
* This movie was (lovingly) lampooned at the [[MSTF]] panel for [[BotCon 2008]], along with "[[War Dawn]]", the episode from which most of the "history vid" footage was taken.
* It's Detroit. There are guns everywhere. Why are the humans using ''water'' to take down the monster?
* In this episode, Starscream's engines use a sound effect borrowed from ''The Phantom Menace'': the sound made by Sebulba's podracer engines.

==Home video releases==
;DVD
*2008 — ''Transformers Animated'' — The Battle Begins ([[Pack-in material|Hasbro]]) — Part 1 only.
*2008 — ''Transformers Animated'' — Transform and Roll Out ([[Transformers Animated (cartoon)/home video|Paramount]]) — English and Spanish audio (NTSC version) / English and German audio (PAL version).
*2008 — ''Transformers Animated'' — Transformieren und Abfahrt (Paramount) — English and German audio.

== Footnote ==
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[[Category:Animated episodes]]
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Demolishor (Armada)

2010-04-07T21:09:33Z

HotAndCold: Names get reused all the time. I'm missing what makes Demolishor special in this category.

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{{disambig3|Demolishor}}

:''Demolishor is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Demolishor-AR-DVD.jpg|right|300px|thumb|They were delicious.]]
'''Demolishor''' is a military expert who serves [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] through the [[Unicron Battles]]. He is a very trusted but sometimes very ''dim'' soldier who holds very true-to-[[spark]] values concerning loyalty and devotion to the Decepticon cause. These values sometimes collide with Megatron's ultimately selfish goals, and Demolishor finds himself struggling to reconcile the two.

Ultimately, though, Demolishor never abandons his devotion to the Decepticons as a whole, even if his faith in their leader is shattered.

His [[Mini-Con]] partner is [[Blackout (Armada)|Blackout]].

:''Japanese name'': '''Ironhide''', '''Irontread''' (dump truck body)
:''Polish name'': '''Demolatron''' (''Armada''), '''Destruktor''' (''Energon'')
:''Hungarian name'': '''Pusztító'''
:''Russian name'': '''Разрушитель''' (''Devastator'')

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Armada'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Alvin Sanders]] (English), [[Kōji Yusa]] (Japanese), [[Anders Öjebo]] (Swedish)

[[Image:Palace-Reeeeeaaaach!.jpg|right|200px|thumb|You don't wanna know what's going on below.]]
Demolishor served as Megatron's right-hand military expert until the arrival of [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]], although he often competed with [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] for the title. He was often dense and simple-minded, but very devoted to his cause. Perhaps the most thoughtful action of Demolishor's during this time was to tear through a door Megatron had sealed in order to stop Megatron from destroying Starscream, whom Demolishor valued as a Decepticon ally. Demolishor was seriously damaged by [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|Nemesis Prime]], only to be reformatted into a red/white color scheme via [[Powerlinx]] energy. He would go on to serve in the United Armada against [[Unicron]].

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====''Energon'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Alvin Sanders]] (English), [[Kōji Yusa]] (Japanese), [[Anders Öjebo]] (Swedish), [[Christoph Jablonka]] (German)

[[Image:Demolishor MegSword.jpg|left|180px|thumb|And so Demolishor became the king of England.]]
Following the end of the [[Unicron Battles]], Megatron's death saw the alliance between the Decepticons and Autobots persist. With the establishment of [[Cybertron City (city)|Cybertron Cities]] to mine [[Energon (Energon)|energon]] on Earth, Demolishor was assigned to [[Ocean City]], where he guarded the city's main gate. Despite his frequent complaints and arguments with the humans and Autobots who lived in the city, Demolishor developed something of a friendship with his new allies and grew into his role. Of particular note was his bickering relationship with the inexperienced [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]], who didn't trust him for being a Decepticon, and whom he ridiculed in return for being a greenhorn. {{storylink|Cybertron City (episode)|Cybertron City}}

In the year 2020, when the alien being [[Alpha Quintesson]] created the [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] to steal energon for him, he armed their leader, [[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]], with a sword forged from Megatron's [[spark]]. During a battle at [[Plains City]], the sword was knocked aside and landed in the ground in front of Demolishor, but he could not bring himself to take hold of the weapon. The chance to return to his Decepticon nature versus his new role amongst the Autobots left him conflicted, unsure of what he truly wanted in life. {{storylink|Megatron's Sword}}

Demolishor's dilemma continued when Megatron returned to life and laid siege to Ocean City. {{storylink|Megatron Resurrected|Megatron Resurrected}} When Megatron appeared before him, Demolishor trained his guns on him, struggling to make a decision as Megatron continually taunted him. Eventually, Demolishor caved in and rejoined the Decepticons, departing with Megatron for his headquarters within the inactive corpse of [[Unicron]]. Despite having made this decision, Demolishor's experiences had left him a changed 'bot, and he would be heard to caution Megatron on the frailties of humans. {{storylink|Megatron Raid|Megatron Raid}}

Not longer thereafter, Demolishor participated in a Decepticon attack on the Autobot ship the ''[[Miranda II]]'', which activated its personal [[energon grid]] defense system during the battle. Megatron was caught directly in the path of the grid, galvanizing Demolishor into making a final, fateful decision: He pushed his leader out of the way and took the force of the grid's blast himself. Oddly, Demolishor blamed Optimus for what happened to him and exploded. Nobody seemed to mourn the loss. (They do in the Japanese version, but this was altered in the English dub.) {{storylink|Go for Unicron!}}

Demolishor's body was destroyed, but his spark was salvaged by Megatron, who implanted it within a new body. Megatron used his Unicron-derived powers to wipe Demolishor's memory, removing any trace of his conflicted nature and degenerating him into a simple-minded, ape-like creature, easily excited and prone to grunting and jumping around. {{storylink|The Return of Demolishor|The Return of Demolishor}} Demolishor retained his friendship with [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]], now Snow Cat, to whose level of intelligence he was now much closer. There was occasional cuddling. In the end, Demolishor, along with Snow Cat, did not follow Megatron into the sun. {{storylink|The Sun|The Sun}}

====''Cybertron'' (toy bio)====
Somehow magically back in his original body (no word on whether his mentality recovered as well), Demolishor was left behind on Cybertron during the planetary evacuation, but has kept himself busy by fighting off the [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]] horde. Demolishor has heard rumors that Megatron has once again returned from the dead, but hopes it is not true, as he enjoys not being pushed around by his commander for once.

===Dreamwave comic continuity===
====Dreamwave ''Armada'' comic====
Demolishor was part of Megatron's initial strike force on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], participating on the roundup of Mini-Cons and assault on and devastation of [[Cyber City]]. He kept the Mini-Con [[Crumplezone (Armada)|Crumplezone]] as his personal slave. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 2|Dreamwave Armada issue 2}} Millions of years later, when a Mini-Con signal was broadcast from Earth, Demolishor followed Megatron to the planet and was reformatted into an Earth tank mode (well, not really). {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 4|Dreamwave Armada issue 4}} As he can't fly (or get any rocket thrusters), he couldn't follow Megatron's team to the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], but instead guarded Decepticon base on Earth. He was knocked unconscious by the Autobots. {{storylink|Dreamwave Armada issue 10|Dreamwave Armada issue 10}} Later, in an assault on [[Autobase (G1)|Autobase]], Demolishor knocked [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]] off a mountain road, where he was seriously injured by Megatron. However, he was soon knocked out by [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 2|Worlds Collide, Part 2}} Megatron later made a truce with the Autobots to help fight Unicron, and Demolishor had to release Crumplezone so he could join with the other Mini-Cons.

====''Energon'' comic====
Demolishor wasn't seen much after the battle with Unicron until he was attacked by the ghost-like [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]. {{storylink|Multiplicity, Pt. 3|Multiplicity, Pt. 3}}

===''TransTech''===
Demolishor is part of [[Gutcruncher (G1)|Gutcruncher]]'s inner circle in the underlevels of [[Axiom Nexus]]. He was with Gutcruncher in [[The Blue Deployer]] the night the Action Master took [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]] for a lot of money. {{storylink|Gone Too Far}}
{{note|Demolishor is not explicitly named in the story, but the description matches.}}

==Toys==
===Armada===
[[Image:Armada Demolishor toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Best Decepticon yes-man toy, ever!]]
* '''Demolishor w/ Blackout''' (Deluxe, 2002/2003)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''MD-03'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: Demolishor transforms into an anti-aircraft missile tank of made-up model. In vehicle mode, he has extra [[Mini-Con]] compatibility; there is a seat behind his turret so he can be piloted, plus the space between his treads features a clip/launcher mechanism for his partner [[Blackout (Armada)|Blackout]] in vehicle mode. Attaching a Mini-Con to his left shoulder's [[Powerlinx]] plug in either mode pushes his twin-missile launcher mechanism forward and allows his spring-loaded missiles to be fired.

: The Japanese release of Demolishor uses a different shade of tan, plus paints his face brown rather than black, among other smaller [[Paint operation|paint application]] changes.

* '''Ironhide w/ Search and Land Military Microns''' (Multi-pack, 2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MS-03'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: In Japan, Demolishor was available both separately and in a multi-pack with the [[Land Military Mini-Con Team]]. All toys in the set are identical to their individual releases.

*'''Demolishor''' (Happy Meal toy, 2003)

: An extremely simplified version of the original Demolishor toy, he features a "battle damage" pop-off arm. He can combine with the other Happy Meal Decepticons to form a super vehicle. Kinda.

*'''Demolishor''' (Built to Rule, 2003)
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles

: One of the smaller ''[[Built to Rule]]'' sets, Demolishor's vehicle mode is still an anti-aircraft missile tank, but with only one firing rocket per side, activated by a pressure-launch mechanism using a rotating "drum". He also features working rubber treads. He comes with a building-block version of Blackout.

*'''Powerlinx Demolishor w/ Powerlinx Blackout''' (Deluxe, 2003)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MD-10'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: A late-series [[redeco]] of the original Demolishor in red and off-white. Part of the final wave of the Stateside ''Armada'' product, Demolishor's coloration was finalized after cardback photography was needed, so the card depicts a normal-colored Demolishor.
:This toy was [[repurposing|repurposed]] for Shattered Glass Demolishor.

[[Image:DemolishorNA-ABTR.jpg|right|125px|thumb|WUBBA WUBBA WUBBA.]]
*'''Night Attack Demolishor''' (Built to Rule, 2003)
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles

: Part of the final wave of ''Armada Built to Rule'', the first Demolishor set was redecoed into colors very close to those of the [[Night Attack Mini-Con Team]]. Again, he comes with a similarly colored version of Blackout.

: Night Attack Demolishor did not ship very prominently, but eventually could be found at Toys "R" Us stores for the heavily discounted price of $2 or so.

{{-}}

===Energon===
*'''Demolishor w/ Blackout''' (Deluxe, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SD-02'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: Originally released as part of the regular [[Takara]] ''Super Link'' series, the original Demolishor toy was given a new color scheme of lime green and purple. This version was later released in the US late in the ''Energon'' line as a Kay-Bee stores [[exclusive]] alongside the ''Super Link'' redeco of [[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]].

[[Image:Energon Demolishor toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|MUNKY IS TRUKK]]
*'''Demolishor''' (Deluxe, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SD-11'''
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles

: Demolishor's new body transforms into a large "earth-mover" dump truck. His truck bed contains four spring-loaded missiles, plus four "false", non-firing missiles. His center torso block can rotate forward to bring his launcher over his body for "[[Hyper Mode]]"... which puts his head right in the middle of his sternum. His truck bed also feature two pairs of "dead" Powerlinx plugs to attach Mini-Cons to, one pair on each side of the "flap", allowing for Mini-Con Powerlinxing in both truck and robot modes. According to Hasbro in a Q&A, he was supposed to be a new character named [[Long Haul]].

[[Image:Mcdemolishor.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Good luck finding me.]]
*'''Demolishor''' (Happy Meal, 2004)

: Available only in some Latin America markets, one of the two ''Energon'' McDonald's Happy Meal promos (neither of which were done in the US!) featured a heavily-simplified version of dump-truck Demolishor with a spring-loaded transformation to robot mode.

{{-}}

===Cybertron===
[[Image:Cybertron-toy_Demolishor.JPG|right|250px|thumb|"I'm not [[Roadbuster]]!"]]
*'''Demolishor''' (Deluxe-Class, 2006)
**''Accessories'': 4 missiles, Cyber Planet Key

: A late addition to the line, the original tank mold was redecoed in a more military camo scheme. He does not come with his Mini-Con partner Blackout in this release; instead, he has a new-mold [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]-style [[Cyber Planet Key]], without a molded [[Faction symbols|faction sigil]], plus a Mini-Con-style Powerlinx socket on the back so it can be used to activate his missile launcher. The key has a painted Decepticon sigil, a purple border, and the [[Cyber Key Codes|Key Code]] "'''dt67'''" printed on the back.

{{-}}

===Attacktix===
[[Image:Attacktix-Demolishor.jpg|right|250px|thumb|But our story isn't really about him...]]
*'''Demolishor''' (2006)
**''Attack Type'': Shooter (wide missile)

: Shown at Toy Fair 2006, ''[[Attacktix]]'' Demolishor is based on his ''Energon'' dump-truck body, with a back-mounted missile launcher that shot a wide-headed missile. He was placed in an early mock-up of the starter set, but ultimately only the vehicle-mode [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] piece would end up in the final product. The piece had no sticker on the front as well. And then... that was the last anyone ''saw'' of this piece. It was never shuffled into a later assortment or even mentioned anywhere. What the hell?
{{canceledtoy}}

==Trivia==
* Reportedly, both of the original Demolishor toy's shoulders were to contain spring-loaded missile launchers, but one was removed for cost considerations.
* Powerlinx Demolishor was originally intended to be [[Sixshot]]-inspired, according to [[Aaron Archer]], because Demolishor's gun-hands reminded him of Sixshot. (No, we don't get it, either.) However, the red color scheme got decided on by [[We've]] and implemented first.
[[Image:ARgame-DemoFight.jpg|right|180px|thumb|ARHH!!]]
* Demolishor was originally planned to be in the [[Transformers (PS2)|''Armada'' Playstation 2 game]] as a long-running boss fight in the Antarctic. According to the original storyboards (unlocked in the game by finding the appropriate [[Data-Con]] on the [[Pacific Island]] base), he was the pilot of the crashed starship (instead of [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]), and the player would have first fought him inside the control room of the ship. [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] was then to fire on the ship when Demolishor was near defeat, which would cause the ship to crash into the chasm below. The player would then have to chase Demolishor vertically through the downed ship and into an ice cavern, where he would try and drop stalactites on your head during your final confrontation. Why Demolishor was removed from the game is unknown, though the most likely explanation is time and budget concerns.
* ''Cybertron'' Demolishor's Key Code as printed on the key doesn't work properly, giving the information for the Deluxe-Class [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]. However, the Code "'''D56B'''" gives Demolishor's information.

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Decepticon/Demolishor/demolishor.htm Demolishor at TFU.info]

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MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2010 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2010-04-01T08:47:33Z

HotAndCold:

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' pick a specific version of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron or Starscream. They're already being inducted!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead (Animated), Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe (Armada), Waspinator (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends '''April 21st, 2010'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:19, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

==Poll entries==
* Bluestreak (G1), Drift, Lio Junior, Skyfire (G1), Wheelie (Movie) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:23, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Elita One, Hellbat, Shokaract, Ultra Magnus, Wipe-Out --[[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:31, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Drift, Hot Shot, Shokaract, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:36, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Impactor, Jhiaxus, Liege Maximo, Scrounge, Straxus --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Drift, Hopper, Shokaract, Straxus --[[User:Jhiaxus|Jhiaxus]] 01:45, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bludgeon (G1), Hot Rod (G1), Jazz (G1), Prowl (Animated), Roadhandler (G1) --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:46, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blaster (G1), Nightbeat (G1), Rhinox (BW), Shockwave (G1), Sky-Byte (RID) --[[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 01:49, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dualor, Scorponok, Sky-Byte, Ratchet, Rattrap - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 01:59, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Emirate Xaaron, "Piano Transformer Guy", Wreck-Gar (Animated), Wreck-Gar (G1) [[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 02:07, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Grimlock, Ravage, Soundwave, Waspinator -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 02:12, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
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* Arcee (Animated), Blackarachnia (Animated), Elita One, Ravage, Wreck-Gar (Animated)--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 02:12, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide (Movie), Prowl (Animated), Rhinox, Sky-Byte, Soundwave --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:18, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Devastator, Laserbeak, Ravage, Shokaract, Ultra Magnus --[[User:LV|LV]] 02:21, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Bludgeon (G1), Soundwave (G1), Waspinator, Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 03:02, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bludgeon, Elita One, Impactor, Ratbat, Soundwave -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 03:15, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Overlord (G1), Shockwave (Animated), Sunstreaker (G1), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 03:56, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia, Dinobot, Rattrap, Ultra Magnus, Waspinator --[[User:HotAndCold|HotAndCold]] 04:47, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

Double Dinobot

2010-03-31T06:13:55Z

HotAndCold: The quote actually goes "It appears my revenge must be postponed until next we meet" which is significantly less meta or quotable.

{{episode
|series=BWtoon
|ep=14
|series2=BWJtoon
|ep2=17
|prev2=Dark Designs (episode)
|next2=Spider's Game
|image=Dinobot mirror.jpg
|caption="Hmm. He looks good, but is he tasty...?"
|title="Double Dinobot"
|production company=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|airdate= [[November 5]], 1996
|written by=[[Rowby Goren]]
|directed by=[[John Pozer]]
|animation studio=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|continuity= [[Beast Wars continuity]]
}}

'''Megatron creates a non-transforming clone of Dinobot in an effort to disable Sentinel'''.

:''French title:'' '''Le Clone''' ("The Clone")
:''French-Canadian title:'' '''Double DinoBot'''
:''Japanese title:'' ダイノボットが二人に? (''Dinobot ga Futari ni?'', "Two Dinobots?")
:''Latin-American title:'' '''El Doble de Dinobot'''
:''Italian title:'' '''Il vero e il falso''' ("The real and the fake")

==Synopsis==
[[Image:Double Dinobot Megatron clone.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Isn't he cute?]]
In a scene reminiscent of a certain [[wikipedia:Frankenstein (1931 film)|early horror film]], Megatron creates a velociraptor clone based on the DNA of the [[Maximal]] Dinobot, Clone One, which also possesses a copy of Dinobot's mind.

Terrorsaur attacks the real Dinobot while on patrol, leading the Maximal into a cave where a swift move allows Terrorsaur to escape and bury Dinobot in a cave-in. Meanwhile, Clone One is sent to infiltrate the [[Axalon (BW)|Maximal Base]] in his place. Clone One tells Optimus Primal that there's a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] camp in [[Grid Omega]] and insists Primal himself should go. Primal instead sends the Clone and Rattrap to fix the camp's exact location.

[[Image:Double Dinobot Rattrap clone.jpg|right|200px|thumb|What's funnier? Seeing someone falling off a log, or causing someone to fall of a log and then laughing at them for falling off.]]
Rattrap transforms to attack the alleged base and ''almost'' discovers the Clone's inability to transform, but stands down when the Clone reminds him this is a ''recon'' mission. Rattrap is puzzled by this uncharacteristic show of restraint, but stands down. While crossing an open lava flow, Clone One kicks the bridge out from under Rattrap, apparently sending him to his death.

In the meantime, the real Dinobot digs himself out of the rubble in the cave.

[[Image:Double Dinobot Clone shock.jpg|left|200px|thumb|This is what really wiped out the dinosaurs.]]
Clone One returns to the ''Axalon'' (now crewed only by Optimus Primal) and fakes an injury, telling Primal that they discovered the Predacon camp under cover of a "stealth device" and Rattrap is trapped. Despite having just received a report from Rhinox that Grid Omega shows no signs of Predacon activity, Optimus Primal activates [[Sentinel (BW)|Sentinel]] and leaves to rescue Rattrap. Clone One struggles to deactivate the shield without Dinobot's authorization codes and is repeatedly shocked by Sentinel, who recognises him as Dinobot, but doesn't detect a Maximal spark.

Primal and Cheetor rendezvous in Grid Omega, where they pick up Rattrap's trail. Rattrap, who landed on a chunk of rock, rides it along the lava flow, but is forced to leap for his life when the flow becomes a lava waterfall. He lands up on a ledge and then [[wikipedia:Rocket jumping|grenade jumps]] back to stable ground, where he encounters Cheetor and Primal and informs them of "Dinobot"'s treachery.

Meanwhile, the real Dinobot returns to the Axalon and deactivates the perimeter shield. Clone One believes he has finally succeeded and summons Megatron. The two Dinobots come face to face and are momentarily baffled as their identical reflexes cause them to mirror one another's reactions. Clone One realizes the situation first and attacks, but Dinobot transforms and challenges his clone to a fight. Discovering that his double cannot transform, Dinobot returns to Beast Mode and the two fight on equal terms. The Clone is losing ground, but a lucky blow appears to knock Dinobot unconscious. Clone One eagerly goes to meet Megatron, not realizing that Dinobot was [[wikipedia:Playing possum|playing]] [[Enter the Nightbird|robo-possum]].

[[Image:Double Dinobot Dinobot teeth.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"...Mmmm, he was quite tasty."]]
Dinobot poses as his clone and greets Megatron outside the base and flatters his ego while discovering his plan to ambush the Maximals as they return from Grid Omega then use their own defense grid to finish them off. Dinobot activates the perimeter shield just as Megatron is walking through it, shocking him badly. Megatron initially believes the clone has betrayed him just as Dinobot did, but is cheered to learn that's not the case. With the arrival of the other Maximals, Megatron retreats.

The Maximals survey the damaged command center in dismay and inquire what happened to the clone. Dinobot informs them that it is gone for good…and was 'quite tasty'.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=
*[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] (6)
*[[Optimus Primal]] (7)
*[[Rattrap]] (8)
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (9)
*[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] (10)

|h2=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]|c2=
*[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] (1)
*[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (2)
*[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] (3)
*[[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] (4)
*[[Clone One]] (5)
}}

==Quotes==
"At last, an end to the boredom!"
:—'''Dinobot''', delighted to be attacked

"Peaceful as an R-chamber. Looks like old chopper face is seein' things."
:—'''Rattrap'''

"I just knew I smelled a rat... and it wasn't even me!"
:—'''Rattrap''' jumps to the wrong conclusion.

"What in the Inferno are you?" 
"What you might have been, had you not betrayed Megatron."
:—'''Dinobot''' meets '''Clone One'''

"Ooh, your brilliance is an inspiration to me!" 
"Oh, you are an enchanting creature! I may just clone the rest of my troops."
:—'''Dinobot''' posing as his clone, to '''Megatron'''

'''Rattrap:''' "If there was a clone, then where is he, huh?" 
'''Dinobot:''' "I'm afraid he's gone for good. A shame, really; he was such a handsome creature. And… quite tasty." 
''[Dinobot flicks a piece of flesh from his teeth at Primal and belches loudly. Cheetor gives him a thumbs up.]'' 
'''Optimus Primal:''' "…You're disgusting." 
''[Dinobot smiles]''
:—The Maximals discover the clone's ''deliciously'' gruesome fate.

==Notes==
* Clone One's skin will later be seen on the wall of Dinobot's room. {{storylink|Maximal, No More}} {{storylink|Code of Hero}}
* Megatron was extremely pleased to learn the clone had not betrayed him. Had Dinobot led him to think his clones were unreliable, it probably would have saved the Maximals a lot of trouble…. ''Ah, hindsight.''
* Megatron would clone Dinobot twice more; the [[Cyber raptor|Cyber raptors]] in [[Cutting Edge]] and [[Dinobot II]] in [[Feral Scream Part 1]]. The [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]] would use DNA from Dinobot's spark to create the [[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobots]] in ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]]''.
* The Chamber Dinobot's clone was created in appears to be an extensively refitted Predacon [[CR chamber|R-Chamber]].
* Megatron is seemingly incapable of cloning Dinobot on sunny days with lots of butterflies. SOMEONE has been reading too much [[wikipedia:Mary Shelley|Mary Shelley]], folks.
* When Dinobot first encounters his clone, and the two mimic each other's movements, it is perhaps a reference to the famous mirror scene from the Marx Brothers movie [[wikipedia:Duck_Soup_(1933_film)|Duck Soup.]]

===Trivia===
*While the Dinobot clone is trying to deactivate Sentinel, a holographic Maximal logo appears with [[Cybertronix]] writing under it saying "who is this putz scally user". Then the shot changes to behind the projection as some more text appears next to a diagram that says "hey ian go f**k yourself", making one wonder what either [[Ian Corlett]] or [[Ian Pearson]] did to piss off an animator. Then the words 'Merv Griffin' display.

==Home video releases==
{{note|All releases listed are in English audio unless otherwise noted.}}
;VHS
*1998 — ''Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers'' — There are 2 Dinobots? ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
*2001 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Beginning: Vol. 3 ([[Universal]])
;Laserdisc
*1998 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Predacon Edition (Pioneer LDC) — English and Japanese audio.
;DVD
*2000 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — English and Japanese audio.
*2003 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Complete First Season ([[Kid Rhino]])
*2005 — ''Beast Wars'' — Classic Episodes: Volume 2 — The Saga Continues! ([[Alliance Atlantis]]) — English and French audio.
*2005 — ''Beast Wars'' — The Complete First Season (Alliance Atlantis) — English and French audio.
*2006 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Season 1 ([[Madman Entertainment]])
*2009 — ''The Transformers: Beast Wars'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)

==External links==
*[http://bwtf.com/bw/tvshow/episodes/seasonone/doubledinobot/doubledinobotscript.pdf Double Dinobot Script] on BWTF.com (PDF)

[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]

Power Surge (episode)

2010-03-30T03:28:01Z

HotAndCold: The flickering happens both times, and a little bit of clarification elsewhere while I'm here.

{{episode
|series=BW
|ep=6
|image=Power Surge Terrorsaur pointing.jpg
|caption=Uncle Terror wants '''YOU'''.
|title="Power Surge"
|airdate= [[September 25]], 1996
|production company=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|written by=[[Larry DiTillio]]
|directed by=[[Nicholas Kendall]]
|animation studio=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|continuity= [[Beast Wars continuity]]
|packaged with=[[Waspinator (BW)#Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Waspeeter]]
}}

'''Terrorsaur discovers a cache of energon on a floating mountain that gives him enough power to overthrow Megatron.'''

:''French title:'' '''L'Énergie d'Énergon''' ("The Energy of Energon")
:''French-Canadian title:'' '''Surcharge''' ("Overcharge")
:''Japanese title:'' 空中山脈大爆破 (''Kūchū Sanmyaku Dai Bakuha'', "The Aerial Mountain Explodes")
:''Latin-American title:'' '''Descarga de Energía'''
:''Italian title:'' '''Sete di potere per i Biocombat''' ("Thirst for power for the Biocombats")

==Synopsis==
A wild and free bird majestically soars through the air, experiencing the wonders of aviation as it feels the wind flow around its proud wings. The bird explores its domain with a grace and sincerity and deliciousness. The lattermost attribute is of interest to a hungry Terrorsaur, who quickly swallows the bird as a snack.

[[Image:Power Surge Floating mountain.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Maybe it's made of very light rock?]]
Terrorsaur discovers a [[flying mountain|massive mountain elevated into the sky]]—defying gravity. Flying closer, he discovers the mountain houses an incredible cache of [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. To check the energon's stability, he transforms into his robot mode, at the risk of having raw energon radiation harm his circuits. When he tries to take a sample for study, bolts of pure energy surge though him, greatly enhancing his abilities. Naturally, the first thing the overcharged [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] does is fly back to his base to overthrow Megatron. Luckily, Cheetor also finds the airborne crag, and watches Terrorsaur leaving at top speeds.

[[Image:Power Surge Megatron down.jpg|right|200px|thumb|They just don't make Megatrons like they used to.]]
Outside of the [[Darksyde|Predacons' crashed ship]], Megatron shows his troops some newly installed territorial defenses. Terrorsaur arrives, and flowing with power, immediately announces that he's taking over the Predacons. Megatron obviously disagrees, and the two fight, but the pumped-up Terrorsaur easily blasts Megatron over the edge of a cliff, where he lands in pieces. With the remaining Predacons under his control, Terrorsaur announces the [[Maximals]] are his next target. Cheetor, having followed Terrorsaur from the floating mountain, perceives the new developments as bad news.

Before he can lead the final battle against the Maximals, Terrorsaur finds his new charge has a short life and he must return to the floating mountain to reinvigorate himself. Tarantulas follows in secret, eager to steal the source of Terrorsaur's new capabilities. Scorponok is left alone with Waspinator, so the two begin to re-assemble and repair Megatron.

Cheetor rushes back to the Maximal base and scrambles onto the bridge, where he spits out an incoherent sequence of words vaguely relating to the current crisis. Giving explanations a second try, Cheetor explains the story thus far to his fellow Maximals. Rhinox concludes that the floating mountain isn't totally scientifically impossible, given enough energon. Primal and Rattrap prepare to destroy the entire island.

[[Image:Power Surge Terrorsaur Primal.jpg|left|200px|thumb|The Gutbuster Workout doesn't prove to be quite what Primal thought.]]
A weakened Terrorsaur flaps back to the island; on the ground, Tarantulas climbs a webline up to the suspended formation. Optimus and his cargo, Rattrap, arrive moments later. The two watch Terrorsaur re-charge his systems. To give Rattrap time to plant the explosives, Primal engages Terrorsaur in an airborne chase. Primal swiftly dodges most of what Terrorsaur fires, but eventually is hit by his [[Optic weaponry|optic blasts]]. He lands to deliver the finishing blast to Primal, who is now trapped in his beast mode thanks to energon buildup. But before a final shot can be fired, Terrorsaur's energon enhancements run out again, and he is forced to go for another recharge, promising to return to finish Optimus.

[[Image:Power Surge Optimus Rattrap jump.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Fly my pretties!]]
Rattrap meanwhile, has been tussling with Tarantulas, the two of them staying in their Beast Modes as they wrestle. With a toss of mud, Rattrap blinds Tarantulas and the spider blindly runs off the side of the mountain to the ground far, far below. Rattrap is passed by the flapping Terrorsaur, and concludes that Primal must have lost their bout. Terrorsaur, meanwhile, discovers the timed charges Rattrap left, and flees in panic without recharging.

The explosives detonate, causing the energon crystals to collapse and explode. Before the ground loses form, Optimus arrives to carry Rattrap away from annihilation. With his ratty companion, Primal swan dives off the exploding alp and somehow the two survive thanks to Primal grabbing onto a tree.

Terrorsaur, no longer having the island's resources to rely on, returns home to meet a very, very angry Megatron.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (2)
*[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] (7)
*[[Rattrap]] (8)
*[[Optimus Primal]] (9)

|h2=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]|c2=
*[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] (1)
*[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] (3)
*[[Tarantulas]] (4)
*[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (5)
*[[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] (6)
}}

==Quotes==
"Terrorsaur, you treacherous worm. I'll finish you forever!"
:—'''Megatron''''s famous last words.

"Well?" 
"Well what?" 
"If you're second in command, what is your command?" 
"..."
:—'''Waspinator''' and '''Scorponok'''. Be patient, Waspinator.

"You do know... that was crazy." 
"Eh, sometimes crazy works." 
:—'''Rattrap''' witnesses '''Optimus Primal''' coin his motto.

'''Terrorsaur''': "Blast those Maximals! They destroyed my power source! But at least I got rid of Megatron." 
''[Megatron emerges from the Predacon base, fully repaired]'' 
'''Megatron''': "Well, well. Look who's ''back''." 
'''Terrorsaur''': "Help."
:—'''Megatron''' greets a depowered—and very scared—'''Terrorsaur'''.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical glitches===
* Tarantulas shoots a line up to the floating mountain and begins scurrying up it—yet the mountain is revolving. What is his line anchored to?
===Transformers references===
* Terrorsaur eating the bird in the beginning of the episode may be alluding to his on-package [[bio]], where it is said that he "ingests entire flocks of birds by flying opened mouthed through their flight pattern." He apparently didn't have much of an appetite in this case.
* When Optimus Primal and Rattrap are flying to the mountain, Rattrap complains that if he wanted to fly, he'd have chosen a [[Optimus Primal/toys| bat]] as an altmode.

===Trivia===
* Megatron's line "I thought you already learned your lesson about challenging me, Terrorsaur." suggests there's been a previous example of Terrorsaur battling against Megatron for leadership in a failed coup. This could imply that this episode was meant to be set after 'Double Jepardy'. The absense of the Predacon Autoguns in that episode would seem to reinforce that.
* The Predacon auto guns are introduced in this episode.
* Rattrap plays holographic cards. According to the [[Cybertronix]] text, he's playing old maid.
* Dinobot is mentioned but does not appear.
* Tarantulas's interest in the floating mountain's energon is the first glimpse at his treacherous nature.
* After Terrorsaur informs the rest of the Predacons that "Megatron is scrap" he adds Megatron's practically patented "Yeess".
* When charging on the unstable energon, Terrorsaur appears to flicker in and out of existence. That can't be good.
* When indicating where he saw the floating mountain, Cheetor points to a location in North America.
* A 'Con that want to overthrow his leader? Where have we seen [[Starscream (G1)|this]] before?

==Home video releases==
{{note|All releases listed are in English audio unless otherwise noted.}}
;VHS
*1998 — ''Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers'' — Convoy Disappeared ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
*2001 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Beginning: Vol. 1 ([[Universal]])
;Laserdisc
*1998 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Maximal Edition (Pioneer LDC) — English and Japanese audio.
;DVD
*2000 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — English and Japanese audio.
*2002 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Volume 1 ([[Kid Rhino]])
*2003 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Complete First Season (Kid Rhino)
*2005 — ''Beast Wars'' — Classic Episodes — Where the Beasties Began! ([[Alliance Atlantis]]) — English and French audio.
*2005 — ''Beast Wars'' — The Complete First Season (Alliance Atlantis) — English and French audio.
*2006 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Season 1 ([[Madman Entertainment]])
*2009 — ''The Transformers: Beast Wars'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)

[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]
[[category:Beast Wars Telemocha Series]]
[[Category:Pack-in material]]

Dickbot the blender guy

2010-03-26T23:56:44Z

HotAndCold: Reverting anon's edit. Why remove such sage advice?

{{noname-designation}}
:''Dickbot the blender guy is an [[Allspark Mutation]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Appliancebots2.jpg|thumb|300px|Every single holiday, a dick on a bot. Over at your parents' house, a dick on a bot.]]

'''Dickbot the blender guy''' can't help the way he was born!

==Fiction==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
The blender robot was brought to life when [[Sam Witwicky]] dropped a piece of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]]. Along with his fellow [[Appliancebot]]s, he tried to attack Sam but was blasted by [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] for his troubles.
{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
{{storylink|When Robots Attack!}}

==Notes==
* According to a special feature on the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' DVD, the blender robot was, at least in the concept stages, the "leader" of the appliancebots.
* The blender has a... rather suggestively-placed cannon. [[Lou Precora]], the composite supervisor for [[Digital Domain]], even refers to the blender as "Dickbot, the blender guy" in the special features on the DVD.
* The "[[When Robots Attack!]]" storybook moved the cannon to the [[:Image:ApplianceBotsForward.jpg|blender robot's arm]]. Because, you know. Children. He was also given a red color scheme.
* Don't put your dick in a blender.

[[Category:Allspark Mutations]]
[[Category:Live-action-only characters]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]

User:HotAndCold

2010-03-15T13:22:51Z

HotAndCold: Pretty much speaks for itself?

Hi, I'm HotAndCold and I don't like seeing my name in edit histories as a red link.

Actual content possibly forthcoming?

Toy

2010-03-15T11:02:57Z

HotAndCold: Hardpoint redirects to Peg. It seemed a little redundant to have them both on the list.

[[Image:Early Sales Concept .jpg|right|350px|thumb|It's still like this for us.]]
In contrast to most science fiction franchises, '''toys''' are the core of the [[Transformers brand]], its original reason for being. Most ''Transformers'' fiction exists to showcase, spotlight, promote, and, in general, [[To sell toys|sell toys]]. Merchandise and other non-transforming "artifacts" also generally exist in support of the toy lines.

''Transformers'' toys are generally created and marketed as part of a particular "[[franchise]]" (i.e. ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'', ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', the retroactively-named [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] etc.), a whole merchandising family with associated characters and fiction. However, this article deals with the physical toys themselves, separate from their representation as fictional characters.

Since the brand debuted in 1984, innumerable Transformer toys have been designed, manufactured and marketed. An exact count is difficult due to the varied nature of the toys (for example, does a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] robot and its partner mini-figure count as one Transformer or two? What about minor [[retool]]s and [[Running change|running changes]]?). But even conservative estimates by collectors tend to run into the low thousands.

==Design==
[[Image:Concept-ArmadaMegatron.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Where the hell do you KEEP that enormous cannon, Megatron?]]
Most Transformers are designed as a joint venture between [[Hasbro]] in America, and [[TakaraTomy]] (previously Takara) in Japan. Hasbro typically provides concepts and artistic direction, while Takara(Tomy) handles the engineering tasks of turning the designs into working physical objects. This division of labor is not cut-and-dried, however; the process involves a great deal of back-and-forth communication between the two companies, with staff members from both working in close conjunction and corresponding on a daily basis. The teams travel overseas several times a year to meet in person, alternating between Japan and Rhode Island. The relationship has grown closer and more intense over the years; the two companies now plan their futures together, compromising along the way to meet the differing requirements of their target markets; this includes not only toy designs, but associated storylines as well. <ref name="stoneb">[http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/tidbits/botcon2005.txt Steve-o Stonebraker's Botcon 2005 notes]</ref>

[[Image:Classics cosmos concept.gif|right|200px|thumb|Design concepts for an unproduced Classics Cosmos. If Hasbro makes this, fans will have their babies.]]
The toy design process begins with a range of character types and possible alternate modes. In the days of ''Beast Wars'', for example, a range of about 100 animal forms was considered.<ref name="built1">[http://www.builtstlouis.net/tf/manic/m-botcon.html A guy on the Internet]</ref>

Nearly all ''Transformers'' toys have a minimum of two forms, most commonly a humanoid "robot" form and an [[alternate mode]]. This means that even a fairly simple Transformer is much more complex than the typical action figure. Multiple alternate modes, [[articulation]], and complex transformations can multiply this many times over. TakaraTomy works out the transformation schemes; as of 2002, Takara still did this on paper. Hasbro would then overlay their detailing designs on the drawings. The entire process of taking a toy from concept to finished, mass-produced product takes approximately one year.<ref name="built2">[http://www.builtstlouis.net/tf/manic/m-bc02.html Some random web site]</ref>

Because of their worldwide marketing, Transformers must be designed to meet many widely-varying [[For safety reasons|safety laws]]. This often results in certain limitations, and even changes being made before toys are sold in the highly litigious [[United States of America]] compared to their Japanese releases.

''Related articles:''

* [[Alternate mode]]
** [[Licensed vehicle alternate modes]]
* [[Design flaws]]
* [[For safety reasons]]
* [[Instruction booklet]]
* [[Kibble]]
* [[Play pattern]]
* [[Playskool]]
* [[Scale]]
* [[Transformation (toys)]]
** [[Partformer]]
** [[Shellformer]]
* [[Tonka]]
* [[Unreleased toy]]

==Components==
[[Image:MovieLeader OptimusPrime toy.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Gone are the days when the instructions said, "Flip out rear of vehicle to form legs; pull out arms."]]
Transformer toys contain a "vocabulary" of working parts, joint types, and standardized design items that reappear across many figures. The vast majority are humanoid in their robot mode, and thus require a head, (at least) two arms, two legs and a torso.

The complexity of Transformers toys has grown over time, making several leaps forward during the course of ''[[Generation 2]]'' and ''Beast Wars'', and then again during the [[Transformers (2007)|Movie]] line. G2 introduced complex posability and the notion of toys that could store or hold all of their accessories in both modes; ''Beast Wars'' made these concepts universal, and featured a number of toys with extremely complicated transformations and a maximum number of ball joints, providing a huge range of articulation. Other toy lines would revisit these levels of complexity, particularly ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' and ''[[Alternators]]''.
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''Related articles:''

* [[Articulation]] (see also: ''[[Brick]]'')
* [[Ball joint]]
* [[Ratchet (mechanism)]]
* [[Slide joint]]
* [[Swivel joint]]
* [[Peg]]
** [[5mm post]]
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==Production/Manufacturing==
[[Image:Hotshotprotosuperjaam.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Prototype Hot Shot really likes JaAm!!]]
Though the toys are designed in America and Japan through a collaborative process between Takara and Hasbro, most are manufactured in places like China.

The production process is complex and expensive. Before mass production can begin, a hard-copy [[prototype]] must be created. Steel-cut [[Mold|molds]] can then be made; this is by far the most costly part of the process. Once the molds are cut, one or more test shots are typically created, usually in random colors. If the molds are ready, mass production commences.

The expense of cutting molds is the main reason that retools and recolors are such a common phenomena in ''Transformers''. [[Redeco|recolors]] allow Hasbro and TakaraTomy to capture a greater return on their considerable investment.

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''Related articles:''

* [[For safety reasons]]
* [[Mold]]
** [[Gang-molding]]
** [[Retool]]
** [[Running change]]
** [[Sprue]]
* [[Pre Rub]]
* [[Prototype]] (includes test shots)
* [[Unreleased toy]]

==Materials==
[[Image:BTTracks toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Tracks from the Alternators/Binaltech line. The Japanese version uses die-cast metal for added heft, while the American iteration is all-plastic for added being-able-to-stand-up.]]
The vast majority of the toys are made of plastic, held together with metal screws and pins, along with the occasional adhesive. The plastics used in Transformer construction have generally increased in flexibility and durability over the years, allowing toys to survive child-inflicted trauma that would have destroyed early Generation 1 toys.

Die-cast, used as an accessory material from 1984-1986, has been all but abandoned due to its excessive cost, shipping weight and design limitations, though it has reappeared in the fan-oriented ''[[Binaltech]]'' and [[Titanium Series]] sublines.

''Related articles:''

* [[Die-cast]]
* [[Plastic]]
* [[Rubber tires]]
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==Common gimmicks==
[[Image:Armada airmilitaryteam toys.jpg|right|350px|thumb|The Air Military Team from Armada. The gimmicks: micro-size, ability to "powerlinx" with larger toys, triple-changing, being awesome.]]
[[Image:G1Rollbar toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Not much articulation, but man, can he scoot across your kitchen floor.]]
As if Transformers weren't complicated enough, Hasbro has seen fit to revitalize and enhance the line constantly with numerous special features, commonly referred to in the fandom as ''gimmicks''. These may range from things as simple as a common decorative theme (such as vacuum metalizing on the [[Transmetal]] toys) to complex mechanisms that drive the entire design of a toy. Gimmicks have been a part of ''Transformers'' from Day 1 and continue to provide the line with diversity and interest today.

{{main|Gimmicks}}

===Static gimmicks===
* [[Energon star]]
* [[Light-piping]]
* [[Rubsign]]
* [[Spark crystal]]

===Active gimmicks===
* [[Automorph]]
* [[Autotransform]]
* [[Combiner]]
* [[Cyber Planet Key]]
* [[Flipchanger]]
* [[Light-emitting diode]]
* [[Mini-Con]]
* [[Missile]]
* [[Pull-back motor]]
* [[Soundbox]]
* [[Sparking gimmick]]
* [[Water-squirting gimmick|Water-squirting]]

==Decoration==
[[Image:Sentmaxtoy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|OTFCC-exclusive Sentinel Maximus, a toy heavily slathered in paint operations.]]
Most Transformers are cast in a limited number of plastic colors. To help bring them to life, paint, tampographs, and stickers are commonly used to provide additional color.

Stickers were common during the days of Generation 1, but have mostly dropped out of use due to changing aesthetic tastes and the feasibility of more complex paint operations. Today, [[faction symbol]]s are typically applied via tampograph, with most other details brought out by paint operations.

''Related articles:''

* [[Paint mask]]
* [[Paint operation]]
* [[Redeco]]
* [[Repaint]] (see also: ''[[Black repaint]]'')
* [[Sticker]]
* [[Tampograph]]
* [[Unpaintable plastic]]
* [[Vacuum metallizing]]

==Marketing==
[[Image:BW-MegaPromo.jpg|right|200px|thumb|In the market-driven rush to production, sometimes the wires get a little crossed. This package cross-sell presents other toys in the line... in color schemes that were never mass-produced. Oops!]]
As awesome as the toys themselves may be, they tend to sell better when they represent fictional characters. The marketing engine that promotes the toys is organized into [[Franchise|franchises]], each encompassing a range of related toys with a storyline built around them. A full-blown, flagship franchise typically features an animated cartoon, and often a comic book series as well. These fictional portrayals may also be a source of considerable income for Hasbro/TakaraTomy, but ultimately they exist [[to sell toys]].

The toy packaging also commonly supports the marketing effort, with [[Bio|biographies]] and [[package art]] of the characters, as well as cross-sell ads promoting other toys currently available. Inside the packaging, [[Catalog|catalogs]] and [[Pack-in material|pack-in flyers]] further market other toys.

''Related articles:''

* [[Bio]]
* [[Catalog]]
* [[Commercial]]
* [[Cross-sell]]
* [[Franchise]]
* [[Instruction booklet]]
* [[Package art]]
* [[Pack-in material|Pack-in flyer]]
* [[Robot Point|Robot point]]
* [[Show-accuracy]]
* [[Tech spec]]
* [[To sell toys]]
* [[Trademark]]

==Distribution and retail==
[[Image:Movie Allspark Legends pack.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Packaging! It's elegant, sleek, attractive, and lasts for about five seconds.]]
Once the toys are manufactured and packaged, they are shipped from their place of birth in Asia to America. As of 1998, their first destination is a Seattle distribution warehouse. From there, they proceed to the distribution centers for the various chain stores that sell the toys at retail; at that point, control of distribution is out of Hasbro's hands. On average, it takes six to eight weeks from the time the toys ship from Hasbro to their appearance on retail shelves. <ref name="built1">[http://www.builtstlouis.net/tf/manic/m-botcon.html A guy on the Internet]</ref>

Toy retailers do their best to predict what toys will and won't sell, and order accordingly; however, it is an imperfect process, and slow sellers in one wave of toys can compel a retailer to order fewer toys from the following waves. Retailers are particularly reluctant to order large numbers from the tail-end of a toy line. <ref name="stoneb">[http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/tidbits/botcon2005.txt Steve-o Stonebraker's Botcon 2005 notes]</ref>

Today, the largest distributors of Transformer toys in America are Wal*Mart, Target, and Toys "R" Us, though the toys can also be found at many other stores such Meijer, Kmart, Kohl's, and Walgreens, as well as various regional grocery and drug store chains.

''Related articles:''
* [[Packaging]]
** especially [[Multilingual packaging]] (see also: ''[[JaAm]]'')
* [[Size class]]
* [[Wave]]
* [[Case assortment]]
** [[Blindpacked]]
** [[Chase figure]]
** [[Shortpacking]]
* [[Rebranding]] and [[subline imprint]]s
* [[Exclusive]]
* [[Black Friday (event)|Black Friday]]
* [[Shelfwarmer]]

Common retailers of Transformer toys:
* [[JUSCO]]
* [[KB Toys]] (defunct)
* [[Kmart]]
* [[Sam's Club]]
* [[Target]]
* [[Toys"R"Us]]
* [[Walmart]]
* [[Market six]]

==Secondary market==
In Transformers fandom, "secondary market" refers to the buying and selling of used toys. The original, stereotypical secondary market was the old-fashioned garage sale — you know, the one where your mom sold all your G1 toys for ten bucks while you were off in college.

The secondary market among fans began with internet auctions, primarily on [[alt.toys.transformers]] in the early 1990s. By the late '90s, ATT's primacy as a marketplace had been supplanted by eBay and various fan-run sites. Buyers and sellers also found a bonanza of opportunities at [[BotCon]], with thousands of toys changing hands over the course of a weekend.

Like any economic market, the secondary market has a life of its own. Older toys can be worth hundreds of dollars, depending on their condition, rarity, and popularity, or they may be worth [[Jumpstarter|next to nothing]]. Most toys from ''Beast Wars'' and later [[Franchise|franchises]] tend to be of comparatively lower value, as many adult fans were buying the toys when they were at retail, and have since kept them in pristine or even unopened condition.

''Related articles:''

* [[alt.toys.transformers]]
* [[eBay]]
* [[Fandom]]
* [[MISB]]
* [[Toy scalping]]
* [[Toy swapping]]

{{picsneeded|Screenshot of an eBay listing of a TF going for insane amounts of money}}

==Toy aging==
[[Image:Pretendermonsters-toys-shellrot.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Split open and melt.]]
Transformer toys are, to put it bluntly, not meant to last forever. They are marketed to a fleeting and transitory age group, with the notion that if they survive a few years, their work is done. Thus collectors who have retained Generation 1 toys for many years can find some unexpected surprises as their toys age, regardless of how carefully the toys have been stored. Among the most common problems are:

* plastic discoloration — see ''[[Photodegradation]]''
* cracking of [[rubber tires]] and the rubber tubing on [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]].
* deterioration of the [[Pretender Monster|Pretender Monsters]]' rubber Pretender shells
* chrome flaking, a problem common on the [[Transmetal]] toys — see ''[[Vacuum metallizing]]''.
* deterioration of sub-par [[Plastic|plastics]] that can cause a toy to physically disintegrate — see ''[[Gold Plastic Syndrome]]''.
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==Toys and this site==
[[Image:ROTF RPMs Ratchet.jpg|thumb|right|250px|It's a toy, sure; but is it a ''toy'' toy? In the "toy" sense of the word?]]

Articles on {{SITENAME SHORT}} classify a Transformers product as either a "toy" or "merchandise". The definition of "toy" used here differs a bit from what would generally be considered a toy in other contexts. For our purposes, a Transformers toy is a scaled-down version of a character in a fictional universe. The body shape, [[alternate mode]], colors, deco, [[gimmick]]s, weapons, [[ability|abilities]], [[bio]], and [[Tech Spec]]s can all be generally considered the same for the toy and his fictional counterpart. In all of these categories, there are variances between the toy and the fictional character it represents (the most common being that the fictional character enjoys more [[articulation]] than his toy.) These and other differences decrease the [[Show-accuracy|show-accuracy/toy-accuracy]] of the character.

The {{SITENAME SHORT}} definition of "toy" excludes many products that are not intended to be a version of a character. For example, the [[Mini-Vehicle]]s from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen toyline]] are small cars with a representation of their robot mode molded into the bottom of the vehicle. It is not meant to be a toy version of a fictional character that also has his robot mode on the bottom of his vehicle. Such toys are listed as "merchandise" for the purposes of the wiki.

Non-transformable Transformer toys such as [[Power Bots]] are more of a gray area. With the exception of [[Action Master]]s, such toys are not intended to be a version of the character that cannot transform. It is up to the individual to decide if those toys are not actual versions of a fictional character or if they are a version but are show-inaccurate to the extent that they don't have an alternate mode.

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