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Talk:Ultra Magnus (RID)

2012-11-12T06:16:56Z

HydraDW: /* Black Version */ new section

Er, weren't Sam's Club RiD Prime and Magnus sold separately, rather than as a two-pack? I guess I could be crazy, but... --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 20:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
: No, you're right. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

== First Non-Redeco? ==

Was this guy's first toy the first UM toy that wasn't a Prime redeco? [[User:JW|JW]] 21:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, yes he is.--[[User:Autobot Soundwave|Autobot Soundwave]] 18:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
::If you want to be strict, G1 Ultra Magnus wasn't a Prime redeco so much as the last of the Diaclone redecos.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

== Black Version ==

I'm quite sure that the black God Magnus was offered in TV Boy, as it was never pictured in TV Magazine. Also, there's definitely no Dark God Fire Convoy giftset. The original clear giftset was TRU Japan exclusive, and the packaging wouldn't have been used for a contest such as this. Were the black Fire Convoy and Magnus just offered together?
[[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 01:16, 12 November 2012 (EST)

Talk:Dungeons & Dinobots

2012-07-30T08:11:02Z

HydraDW: /* Another error? */ new section

==Side Burn==

I love the idea of RID Side Burn ending up in SG after the Universe comics, but I'm having problems. Why is Side Burn his RID self, but, according to this wiki, Demolishor is just some SG version of the character?

"he already had an Earth mode" - Not quite right. He altered his form in anticipation of the Decepticons' journey to Earth, just like many other Autobots, including Goldbug and Rodimus.

"so far he's the only character, short of Crasher and Demolishor, who isn't based on someone from G1" - In other words, he's not the only character who isn't based on G1. A spoiler for Eye in the Sky, the latest club story: ----------- Fred & Billy appear, mirror counterparts to the Armada characters. The list of non-G1 characters is growing. The authors of Do Over specifically mention that G1 Cliffjumper doesn't know of a G1 counterpart to SG Demolishor. Does this mean that SG Demolishor is actually Armada Demolishor, or that SG isn't wholly alternate-G1? Just some thoughts that have been stewing in my head for a while. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 15:21, 14 May 2009 (EDT)

So, to revive this discussion: Shouldn't he be SG Side Burn until he's revealed to be RID Side Burn? I see the evidence, but there's still some gray room. And even in the face of "it's so obvious!", isn't it kind of a spoiler to say so here for those who wouldn't have guessed? I mean, I'm fine with the trivia note, but unequivocally stating that he's RID Side Burn in the Featured Characters list makes me uncomfortable. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 14:13, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:Spoilers for what? This story? Then don't read the page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:22, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
::Spoiler for any future story that explicitly revels that he's RID Side Burn, assuming they're building up to such a revelation. And if they're not, then I'm not so sure about absolutely stating that he's RID Side Burn. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 18:44, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:::If it's obvious from the story itself, it's not a spoiler for a future story. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:20, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

Alright, this is ridiculous. My edit to the Featured Characters section has been reverted, and yet, the link to the SG Side Burn article at the top of the page remains. Which Side Burn are we assuming this is? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 16:11, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

::I would imagine that's a leftover from my synopsis some weeks ago that Walky hasn't notice yet. --[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 18:44, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

== Chromedome ==

What is this I hear about an SG Chromedome in D&D? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 05:49, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:Near the end of the story, Prime threatened to hang Blurr on "the shelf" next to Cromedome for failing to capture Grimlock.
:“Tell me why I shouldn’t rid myself of your incompetence, and let you join Chromedome on the shelf. You two will have a lot to talk about for a very long time.”
:--[[User:Crockalley|Crockalley]] 14:49, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

== Where to Put the Preview? ==

So I ordered a couple back issues of the TFCC mag recently and was a bit surprised to find that the preview for this story in issue #22 actually is a whole scene that's not in the actual text story. So... I'm thinking it should get summarized somewhere, but wasn't sure where in relation to this page. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:13, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

== Another error? ==

One of the newly-intelligent Grimlock's lines is "Like most precarious children, I am merely bored." Isn't this a malapropism of the word "precocious?" "Precarious" would mean in danger, and is normally only used towards situations or places, not individuals. [[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 04:11, 30 July 2012 (EDT)

Talk:A Gift from the Planet of Scrap

2012-07-10T02:27:01Z

HydraDW: /* "Planet Scrap" */

=="Planet Scrap"==
It would have been better translated as "the Scrap Planet", like I did before. It's a descriptor for Junk (e.g. スクラップ惑星ジャンク, "Scrap Planet Junk"). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:40, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

About the Thunder Cross comment, the joke seems to have gone over the head of the wiki writer. The Japanese for Santa is サンタクロース. Scrapheap renders it as サンタークロス since he's a Transformer not familiar with human culture. The original translator redered this as "Thunder Cross," whereas I used the more transformer-y "Sander Claw" in order to make the nature of the joke more apparent in the localization. Neither one is an error. [[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 22:27, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

Doryu (G1)

2012-05-02T07:25:08Z

HydraDW:

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{picsneeded|Toy; fictional appearances}}

:''Doryū is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory]] portion of [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Doryu.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Oddly enough when considering his English dub name, he always seems to be smiling.]]

'''Doryū''' (ドリュウ) smaaaaaaaaaaart. Doryū can laugh. Doryū throw coconut good. Doryū make good [[Dinoking]] leg. Doryū... ummmm... Doryū... is Doryū. Doryū is good soldier... when Doryū can find battle.

==Fiction==
===''Victory'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor'': [[Masashi Hironaka]] (Japanese), [[Hikaru Midorikawa]] (Japanese, episode 31)

{{charstubfiction}}

===''Victory'' comic===
Doryū and the Dinoforce rode their Pretender shells into battle, ransacking the planet Earth. They attempted to escalate the devastation by forming [[Dinoking]], but were stopped cold by the power of [[Landcross (Victory)|Landcross]]. {{storylink|Magnificent! Our Friend, Star Saber!}}

Doryū stood watch as [[Kakuryū]] went through his daily fitness routine. {{storylink|Warrior of Love, Star Saber!}}

As the Autobots infiltrated the Decepticon Space Stronghold, their sudden appearance scattered Doryū and the Dinoforce. The fighting soon ceased as the Decepticons revealed they only sought energy for their families, including the adorable [[Baby Dinoforce|Dinobabies]]. {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}

==Toys==
===Victory===
*'''Doryū''' (Dinoforce, 1989)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-325'''
**''Accessories'': Stegosaurus shell, shell back, "Stego Gun", Dinoking footplate

: Doryū's inner robot shares the same mold as the [[Pretender Monster]] [[Scowl]], transforming into a howler monster. He comes with a rubbery cyborg stegosaurus Pretender-type shell in which he can be stored. He was available both individually and in a large Dinoking box-set.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Destron/Doryu/doryu.htm More information on Doryu at TFU.info]''

*'''Dinoking''' (Multi-pack, 1989)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-328'''

: All six members of [[Dinoforce]] were available both in individual boxes, and in a complete six-piece gift set.

==Notes==
*''Doryū'' corresponds with 土竜, meaning "Earth Dragon", although that word is usually read as ''mogura'', referring to the mole animal.
* The Dinoforce shells are notable for developing a green patina on the painted-gold portions, as well as a slimy texture over their whole surface over time. What causes this is unknown, but ''ick''. Even previously-unopened samples will develop this nastiness. While some water and a little bit of hand-soap should take care of the slime, there's not much to be done about the green discoloration.

* The ''Victory'' anime depicted the Dinoforce members as carrying melee weapons, rather than the blasters the toys actually came with.

===Foreign names===
*''English:'' '''Scowl''' ([[Omni Productions]] dub)

{{DEFAULTSORT:Doryu}}
[[Category:Dinoforce]]
[[Category:Turncoats]]

Solitarium

2012-04-16T04:38:49Z

HydraDW:

[[Image:Solitarium-GB.jpg|right|180px|thumb|My chakras will be INVINCIBLE!]]

'''Solitarium''' (ソリタリュウム ''Soritaryūmu'') is a type of ore discovered on [[Earth]] in the early 21st century. Small amounts of it can be used to craft powerful weaponry, or to give a temporary boost to the power of a Transformer.

==Fiction==
===''Robot Masters''===
Solitarium was littered all around [[Earth]], with no explanation of what it was or where it came from. One thing was clear, and that was that the [[Decepticon]]s wanted their hands on it.

====Pack-in comic====
[[Gigant Bomb]] installed a chunk of solitarium in his chest, vastly increasing his power to the point where even [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Optimus Primal]] couldn't scratch him. However, [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]] soon arrived and sliced the piece of solitarium in two, forcing the Decepticon to retreat. {{storylink|The Victory Warriors Enter!!}}

====Online comic====
[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] created four melee weapons from pure solitarium, which he then fashioned into the [[Arsenal Force]]. {{storylink|Starscream Grins 3 Times...}}

====Cartoon====
A large deposit of solitarium was discovered beneath a large city, and as a result, the city came under attack by the Decepticons. When Prime and Primal's "Double Prime Tornado" met with [[Megatron (BW)|Beast Megatron]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Rebirth Megatron]]'s "Double Megatron Tornado", the energy produced by the attacks reacted with the Solitarium and caused it to flood out all over the city's streets. {{storylink|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters (episode)|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters}}

===''TransTech''===
Solitarium is a controlled substance in the city of [[Axiom Nexus]]. When he apprehended [[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]], [[Stungun (TransTech)|Stungun]] accused the [[Action Master]] of being on the energy in addition to [[nucleon]]. {{storylink|Gone Too Far}}

===''Animated''===
[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] wields a solitarium ultra-axe. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|The AllSpark Almanac}}

==Toys==
===Robot Masters===
Most toys in the ''Robot Masters'' line came with a new accessory. Six of these were explicitly forged from solitarium...

*RM-04 [[Wrecker Hook (RM)|Wrecker Hook]]'s "Boost Hammer"
*RM-06 [[Air Hunter]]'s "Sacred-Cut Sword 'Armorkiller'"
*RM-08 [[Wingstun]]'s "Jamming Trident"
*RM-09 [[Psycho-Orb]]'s "Calamity Defenser"
*RM-13 [[Smokesniper]]'s "Radial Pod"
*RM-14 [[Gigant Bomb]]'s "Pulverizer"

The Hammer, Sword, Trident and Defenser could be combined to form the [[Arsenal Force]] megaweapon. Though it is not explicitly shown, the Pod and Pulverizer can also be added to the mix.

100 sets of special clear-red versions of these four weapons were made available as a contest prize (along with red versions of the three Autobot guns), as second place in the same contest where [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Cybertron Base]] was first prize.

Each of the mail-away "Limited Black Version" ''Robot Masters'' toys came with a chrome-gold version of one of the four Arsenal Force weapons.

*RM-01 [[Optimus Prime (G1)#_Robot_Masters_2|Optimus Prime]] - Gold Calamity Defenser
*RM-02 [[Megatron (BW)#_Robot_Masters_2|Megatron]] - Gold Sacred-Cut Sword "Armorkiller"
*RM-11 [[Optimus Primal#_Robot_Masters_2|Optimus Primal]] - Gold Boost Hammer
*RM-12 [[Starscream (G1)#_Robot_Masters_2|Starscream]] - Gold Jamming Trident

There are other new accessories in ''Robot Masters'' that are not explicitly solitarium weapons. The nameless missile launcher included with Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Optimus Primal (and their [[redeco]]es) could be considered a solitarium weapon.

Additionally, the extra chromed weapons from the first ''Robot Masters'' Autobots are the same transparent plastic as the solitarium weapons underneath the chrome coat. These were included in the contest-prize weapon set in clear-red without the chrome coating, so perhaps those versions are forged from solitarium.

*RM-03 [[Mirage (G1)#_Robot_Masters_2|Mirage's]] "JS Laser Gun"
*RM-05 [[R-Blade]]'s "Flare Gun"
*RM-07 [[Bound Rogue]]'s "Type 93"

==Notes==
* A more detailed history for Solitarium was developed during the planning stages for ''Robot Masters'', which explained that the substance actually came from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. When the planet was transported into Earth's orbit during the events of "[[The Ultimate Doom]]", it crossed Earth's Roche Limit (the boundary at which point a smaller planetary body will start to break up due to the effects of a larger body's gravity) before being blasted off into space, and during that time, the Solitarium was the first thing to break away from the planet. Scattered into space, some of it eventually fell on Earth, setting up the events of ''Robot Masters'' and explaining its rather sudden appearance in the early 21st century, when the story is set. Of course, precisely none of this information found its way into the finished storyline.
* It has been speculated that the new-mold weapons in ''Robot Masters'' are actually unused accessories from the [[Takara]] "LED Powers" ''Microman'' series, which was abruptly cancelled in late 2000. The last section of the line included transparent plastic weapons that could be combined to form armor or larger weapons for the individual Microman figures. The handle size is also identical between the solitarium parts and the "Shining Tector" Microman weapons.

{{stub}}

[[Category:Animated substances]]
[[Category:Contest prizes]]
[[Category:MacGuffins]]
[[Category:Power sources]]
[[Category:Robot Masters]]
[[Category:Substances]]
[[Category:TransTech]]

Solitarium

2012-04-16T04:37:54Z

HydraDW:

[[Image:Solitarium-GB.jpg|right|180px|thumb|My chakras will be INVINCIBLE!]]

'''Solitarium''' (ソリタリュウム ''Soritaryūmu'') is a type of ore discovered on [[Earth]] in the early 20th century. Small amounts of it can be used to craft powerful weaponry, or to give a temporary boost to the power of a Transformer.

==Fiction==
===''Robot Masters''===
Solitarium was littered all around [[Earth]], with no explanation of what it was or where it came from. One thing was clear, and that was that the [[Decepticon]]s wanted their hands on it.

====Pack-in comic====
[[Gigant Bomb]] installed a chunk of solitarium in his chest, vastly increasing his power to the point where even [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Optimus Primal]] couldn't scratch him. However, [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]] soon arrived and sliced the piece of solitarium in two, forcing the Decepticon to retreat. {{storylink|The Victory Warriors Enter!!}}

====Online comic====
[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] created four melee weapons from pure solitarium, which he then fashioned into the [[Arsenal Force]]. {{storylink|Starscream Grins 3 Times...}}

====Cartoon====
A large deposit of solitarium was discovered beneath a large city, and as a result, the city came under attack by the Decepticons. When Prime and Primal's "Double Prime Tornado" met with [[Megatron (BW)|Beast Megatron]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Rebirth Megatron]]'s "Double Megatron Tornado", the energy produced by the attacks reacted with the Solitarium and caused it to flood out all over the city's streets. {{storylink|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters (episode)|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters}}

===''TransTech''===
Solitarium is a controlled substance in the city of [[Axiom Nexus]]. When he apprehended [[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]], [[Stungun (TransTech)|Stungun]] accused the [[Action Master]] of being on the energy in addition to [[nucleon]]. {{storylink|Gone Too Far}}

===''Animated''===
[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] wields a solitarium ultra-axe. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|The AllSpark Almanac}}

==Toys==
===Robot Masters===
Most toys in the ''Robot Masters'' line came with a new accessory. Six of these were explicitly forged from solitarium...

*RM-04 [[Wrecker Hook (RM)|Wrecker Hook]]'s "Boost Hammer"
*RM-06 [[Air Hunter]]'s "Sacred-Cut Sword 'Armorkiller'"
*RM-08 [[Wingstun]]'s "Jamming Trident"
*RM-09 [[Psycho-Orb]]'s "Calamity Defenser"
*RM-13 [[Smokesniper]]'s "Radial Pod"
*RM-14 [[Gigant Bomb]]'s "Pulverizer"

The Hammer, Sword, Trident and Defenser could be combined to form the [[Arsenal Force]] megaweapon. Though it is not explicitly shown, the Pod and Pulverizer can also be added to the mix.

100 sets of special clear-red versions of these four weapons were made available as a contest prize (along with red versions of the three Autobot guns), as second place in the same contest where [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Cybertron Base]] was first prize.

Each of the mail-away "Limited Black Version" ''Robot Masters'' toys came with a chrome-gold version of one of the four Arsenal Force weapons.

*RM-01 [[Optimus Prime (G1)#_Robot_Masters_2|Optimus Prime]] - Gold Calamity Defenser
*RM-02 [[Megatron (BW)#_Robot_Masters_2|Megatron]] - Gold Sacred-Cut Sword "Armorkiller"
*RM-11 [[Optimus Primal#_Robot_Masters_2|Optimus Primal]] - Gold Boost Hammer
*RM-12 [[Starscream (G1)#_Robot_Masters_2|Starscream]] - Gold Jamming Trident

There are other new accessories in ''Robot Masters'' that are not explicitly solitarium weapons. The nameless missile launcher included with Optimus Prime, Megatron, and Optimus Primal (and their [[redeco]]es) could be considered a solitarium weapon.

Additionally, the extra chromed weapons from the first ''Robot Masters'' Autobots are the same transparent plastic as the solitarium weapons underneath the chrome coat. These were included in the contest-prize weapon set in clear-red without the chrome coating, so perhaps those versions are forged from solitarium.

*RM-03 [[Mirage (G1)#_Robot_Masters_2|Mirage's]] "JS Laser Gun"
*RM-05 [[R-Blade]]'s "Flare Gun"
*RM-07 [[Bound Rogue]]'s "Type 93"

==Notes==
* A more detailed history for Solitarium was developed during the planning stages for ''Robot Masters'', which explained that the substance actually came from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. When the planet was transported into Earth's orbit during the events of "[[The Ultimate Doom]]", it crossed Earth's Roche Limit (the boundary at which point a smaller planetary body will start to break up due to the effects of a larger body's gravity) before being blasted off into space, and during that time, the Solitarium was the first thing to break away from the planet. Scattered into space, some of it eventually fell on Earth, setting up the events of ''Robot Masters'' and explaining its rather sudden appearance in the early 21st century, when the story is set. Of course, precisely none of this information found its way into the finished storyline.
* It has been speculated that the new-mold weapons in ''Robot Masters'' are actually unused accessories from the [[Takara]] "LED Powers" ''Microman'' series, which was abruptly cancelled in late 2000. The last section of the line included transparent plastic weapons that could be combined to form armor or larger weapons for the individual Microman figures. The handle size is also identical between the solitarium parts and the "Shining Tector" Microman weapons.

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[[Category:Animated substances]]
[[Category:Contest prizes]]
[[Category:MacGuffins]]
[[Category:Power sources]]
[[Category:Robot Masters]]
[[Category:Substances]]
[[Category:TransTech]]

Victory Leo

2012-04-10T01:30:38Z

HydraDW:

{{picsneeded|toys}}
{{factions|autobot}}
:''Victory Leo is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:Victory leo.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[For safety reasons|He painted the ends of his guns orange to trick the Decepticons into thinking they're toys.]] Tricky, tricky, tricky...]]

'''Victory Leo''' (ビクトリーレオ ''Vikutorī Reo'') is a wild and powerful Autobot warrior who works alongside [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]].

{{note|Exactly who Victory Leo is varies between continuities. See below for details.}}

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Victory'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Hiroshi Takemura]] (Japanese)

After the events of the [[Masterforce War]] on Earth, the [[Transtector]] formerly bonded to the human [[Ginrai]]—now having taken its human partner's name as its own, becoming known as Ginrai itself—joined with the Autobot forces in space, where he became good friends with [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] and his adopted human son, [[Jean Minakaze]]. Before long, Star Saber was appointed Supreme Commander of the Autobots, while Ginrai became commander of the Defense Force for Space Sector Two. {{storylink|The Brave Hero of the Universe - Star Saber}} Operating out of a base in the G Nebula, Ginrai's time was occupied battling the Decepticon forces under Overlord's control, so much so that Star Saber occasionally had to respond to emergencies in Sector Two, such as a [[Breastforce]] attack on planet [[Micro]]. {{storylink|Planet Micro - The Mysterious Warrior}}

[[Image:Godginrai vs deathsaurus.jpg|thumb|left|180px|]]

Feeling guilty over taking up Star Saber's time in such a manner, Ginrai was quick to come to his aid when the newly reunited Breastforce [[combiner]] [[Liokaiser]] proved too much for Star Saber to handle, {{storylink|Unite! Liokaiser}}and also later when Star Saber was lured into a trap on Earth by Decepticon [[Emperor of Destruction]] [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]. Confronting Deathsaurus in battle, Ginrai was struck by a blast from the villain's Living-Metal-Destroying Cannon and badly damaged. {{storylink|A Deadly Battle}}

[[Image:Deadginrai.jpg|right|thumb|180px|Cosplaying as Prime is a risky business.]]

Despite the best medical efforts of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], and [[Minerva (Masterforce)|Minerva]], Ginrai's body was left useless and immobile. Due to a slip by Perceptor, however, he learned of the existence of a reconstruction process conceived by Star Saber that would allow him to become a power-up for the Autobot leader. Star Saber refused to allow him to submit to the process, revolted at the notion of using his close friend's body in such a way, but Ginrai insisted. Perceptor and Wheeljack brought his life functions to an end, and then restored him to Star Saber's specifications as '''Victory Leo'''. {{storylink|Ginrai Dies!!}}

An unfortunate side-effect of the process left Victory Leo's mind and body unbalanced; immediately after his transformation, he began to run wild in his lion mode, displaying a more wild, feral nature than God Ginrai ever had, leaving Jean dismayed at the apparent loss of the being he had considered his friend. {{storylink|Fight!! Victory Leo}} When Jean was trapped in a collapsed building as Victory Leo battled the Breastforce, however, his pleas for help reached Victory Leo, and some measure of balance returned to his mind, leading him to rescue Jean. {{storylink|Awaken! Victory Leo}}

[[Image:AwakenVictoryLeo Victory Leo raging cannon.jpg|thumb|left|240px]]
When Deathsaurus threatened the Earth with orbital missile strikes if the Autobots interfered in the Decepticons' energy-gathering raids, Victory Leo had to be forcibly held back by the [[Brainmaster]]s to prevent him from attacking their enemies and dooming the planet. Star Saber came to the rescue with a new unification circuit implanted within his body. With this new component, he and Victory Leo could combine their bodies into Victory Saber. In the form of a combined jet, Victory Saber soared into space at a faster rate than Deathsaurus had predicted, and then in their combined robot form, destroyed the satellite controlling the missiles. {{storylink|The Tide Is Turned! The Ultimate Weapon, the Victory Unification}}

When Jean's school was attacked by the Dinoforce, Victory Leo departed from Shuttle Base to defend it, meeting up with Star Saber on the way. They arrived on Earth in time to see Gōryū capture Jean's [[Illumina II|new mech]]. Unable to fight back while the Dinoforce held a hostage, Victory Leo and Star Saber had little choice but to face enemy fire, until Jean unleashed smoke grenades from his mech to escape. The Dinoforce combined into Dinoking, prompting Star Saber and Victory Leo to form Victory Saber and win the day. {{storylink|Jean - Defend the Campus!!}}

[[Image:Victory32 Victory Leo beast mode.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"Let's go Voltron Force!"]]
Despite his proven battle prowess, Victory Leo was still not entirely the being Ginrai had been, retaining a more violent, short-tempered personality which sometimes brought him into conflict with the other Autobots, who, in turn, did not trust him as much as they had Ginrai. When Breastforce member [[Leozack]] impersonated Star Saber, Victory Leo realized that something was wrong, but none of his teammates believed him. Even when Victory Leo tried to stop Leozack from taking Victory Saber's combination information, the Autobots thought he was a traitor, until the real Star Saber showed up and Leozack was exposed, gaining Victory Leo his comrades' trust. {{storylink|A Mystery?! The Deception of the Base Bombs}}

When Deathsaurus finally succeeded in reactivating his colossal, planet-destroying battle fortress, Victory Leo and Star Saber combined into Victory Saber and took to space to try and stop the deadly craft, only to be knocked out by its weapons and crash, unconscious, on its surface. {{storylink|The Wrath of the Resurrected Giant Fortress!}} Recovering as it transformed into its "Destroyer Mode," Victory Saber attacked again but was confronted by Breastforce combiner Liokaiser. At the same time, Jean arrived in his mobile mech with information that could destroy the fortress, and Victory Saber separated so that Star Saber could follow him into the fortress. Victory Leo took on Liokaiser and defeated him by hurling him into the fortress's cannon barrel. Jean then succeeded in beginning the fortress's destruction, and Deszaras, defeated by Star Saber, set the craft on a collision course with Earth. Forming Victory Saber once again, the two heroes successfully destroyed the fortress and saved the planet. {{storylink|Showdown! The Fortress vs the Victory Unification}}
{{--}}

====''Zone cartoon''====
[[Image:Victorysaber feminia destruction.jpg|left|200px|thumb|And no one showed the slightest concern for Victory Leo's well-being. Jerks.]]
When planet [[Feminia]] was being attacked by [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]], [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], Victory Leo accompanied Star Saber, but only as a part of Victory Saber. Victory Saber was rescued by Dai Atlas and Sonic Bomber but the Zone base had been attacked by Overlord, Menasor, Abominus, [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] and [[Scorponok (G1)#Super-God Masterforce cartoon|BlackZarak]] and the [[Energon Z]] was stolen. Victory Saber put Dai Atlas in charge of the mission to find the Energon and stop the Decepticons. He was later seen again as part of Victory Saber when [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]] was appointed new [[Supreme Commander]]. {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}
{{-}}

====''Robot Masters''====
=====Pack-in comic=====
{{charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|The Victory Warriors Enter!!}}

=====Cartoon=====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Yūto Kazama]]

When Star Saber went back in time to 2004, Victory Leo went with him and fought with him against the Decepticons.
{{storylink|Fight! The Group of the Strongest Commanders!}}
{{storylink|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters (episode)|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters}}

=====Online comic=====
{{charstubfiction}}

===''Victory'' comic===
When the father of [[Jean Minakaze|Jean]] and [[Patty Minakaze]], a famed mineralogist, discovered a powerful ore called [[gurunium]], the substance was used to build a new Autobot: Victory Leo. When Mr. Minakaze and his wife were killed in a Decepticon attack, Jean went to go live with [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] while Patty went with Victory Leo.

Some years later, as Star Saber fell to a combined attack from [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], [[Dinoking]] and [[Liokaiser]], Victory Leo at last arrived with Patty as reinforcements. His gurunium body allowed him to merge with Star Saber via the "Victory Combination", allowing the pair to become [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]]. {{storylink|The Strongest Partners, the Combination of Victory!}}

To combat the threat of Victory Saber, Deathsaurus forced the slaves of planet [[Guard]] to construct a mech unit for his son called [[Solon Kitakaze (Victory)|King Solon]]. As Victory Saber arrived to free the people of Guard, Deathsaurus combined with King Solon to form [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|King Zaras]]. The two foes proved to be evenly matched, with their battle raging on for hours, until Solon was momentarily distracted by Patty. Victory Saber then bested King Zaras, destroying the King Solon mech unit. {{storylink|Mighty! Victory Saber}}

Soon afterward, Victory Saber, [[Laster]] and [[Braver]] found themselves in a losing battle against Deathsaurus and Liokaiser on [[Earth]]. Luckily, the [[Victories]] arrived (with newest member, Solon) and used their "Five Stars of Victory" attack to transfer their unique abilities into their corresponding Transformer. Patty transferred the power of her ''love'' into Victory Leo, giving him the boost Victory Saber needed to send the Decepticons packing back to their [[Planet-Destroying Fortress|Space Stronghold]]. {{storylink|Shine! The Five Stars of Victory}}

From the Space Stronghold, the Decepticons initiated their all-out attack on Earth. Victory Leo helped fend off the Decepticons as Star Saber took out Deathsaurus (well, really, [[Leozack]] did that) and the [[Breastforce]]. With the battle won, it was revealed that the Decepticons had been fighting for the survival of all the Decepticon civilians living within the Space Stronghold. From atop Victory Leo's shoulder, Patty invited all the Decepticon families to live in peace on [[Victory (planet)|Planet V]]. And so the war ended. {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}

===''Transformers PD Type'' comic===
[[Image:PDType Victory Leo trounce.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Victory Leo, seen here moonlighting as a Spanish soccer announcer.]]
Arriving on the battlefield, Victory Leo merged with Star Saber to form Victory Saber... only to ruin Victory Saber's speech by growling constantly. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##2 "He's Here! Victory Saber!!"|He's Here! Victory Saber!!}} After Star Saber's tuna gambit failed on Liokaiser, he called Victory Leo to ask him for assistance. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##5 "Don't Lose! Star Saber!!"|Don't Lose! Star Saber!!}} Facing off against [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and Deathsaurus, Victory Leo transformed to lion mode and trounced them! At least until Megatron tossed him a giant ball of yarn, and the Decepticons ran away while he was distracted. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##6 "Tough as Nails! Victory Leo!"|Tough as Nails! Victory Leo!}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Victory===
[[Image:G1toy victory leo.jpg|right|thumb|400px|[[JAM Project| V-I-C-T-O-R-Y! Three-Two-One-Zero, never give up! Oh yeah]]!]]

*'''Victory Leo''' (1989)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-327'''
**''Accessories:'' V-Lock Cannon, 2 V-Lock Rifles, 3 missiles

: Victory Leo transforms into a black, yellow and white robotic winged lion. Both modes are dominated by the missile-firing V-Lock Cannon that rises from his back between his wings in alternate mode, or plugs into his hip in robot mode. A flying alternate mode was created for the character by the production staff of the animated series, and the toy is capable of being configured into this form, though it is just a block with wings on.

:Victory Leo combines with Star Saber, sold separately, to become Victory Saber.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Cybertron/VictoryLeo/victoryleo.htm More information on Victory Leo at TFU.info]''
{{-}}
*'''Victory Saber''' (1989)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-328'''

: Victory Leo was also available in a gift set with Star Saber. Victory Leo can combine with Star Saber by plugging into the aft end of his flight mode, thus becoming a huge booster section, or by disassembling and connecting to Star Saber's robot mode. His legs and chest compress into a pair of "platform boots" that connect to the base of Star Saber's feet, while his other components form a winged backpack that aims his twin cannons over Star Saber's shoulders. In this mode, Victory Saber can also wield the V-Lock Rifle.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Cybertron/VictorySaber/victorysaber.htm More information on Victory Saber at TFU.info]''

===Robot Masters===
*'''Victory Leo''' (2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-16'''

:A smaller, simplified version of the Victory Leo toy, the ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' version of the figure arms Victory Leo with a new, yellow gun. It has stupid, floppy legs.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/VictoryLeo/victoryleo.htm More information on ''Robot Masters'' Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

*'''Victory Saber''' (2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-17'''

:Victory Leo was also available in a two-pack with the ''Robot Masters'' version of Star Saber, with whom he could still combine to form Victory Saber, in both jet and robot modes. The two figures in this pack featured a more metallic paint job than their standard releases.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/VictoryLeoRM17/victoryleo.htm More information on ''Robot Masters'' RM-17 Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

*'''Victory Saber''' (eHobby exclusive, 2005)

:An "evil recolor" of the Victory Saber two-pack complete with Decepticon symbols, this black, purple, teal and bronze redeco represents the two heroes in "optical camouflage" paint jobs for use on an undercover mission to investigate Decepticon dealings in the Middle East black market.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Destron/VictoryLeo/victoryleo.htm More information on black Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

==Merchandise==
===Mega SCF===
*'''Victory Leo''' (2002)

[[Image:Mega SCF Victory Leo.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"Why can't I transform?!"]]
:A non-transforming action figure of Victory Leo. He came with additional parts and could join with Mega SCF Star Saber to form Victory Saber.
{{--}}
===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robot Heroes Victory Saber Dessaras.jpg|right|thumb|300px|For the last time, I don't want to hear about your fanfic!]]
*'''Victory Saber''' / '''Dessaras''' (unreleased)

:A surprise entry in the ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' series, this [[super deformed]] figurine depicts Victory Leo combined with Star Saber as Victory Saber, packaged with an equally adorable Deathsaurus, sporting another new name variant. Originally discovered amongst [[Walmart|Wal-Mart]] store computer listings in mid-2008, the ill-fated Victory Saber and Deathy failed to materialize before the ''Robot Heroes'' line was canceled.
{{canceledtoy}}

==Notes==
* Victory Leo's "flight mode" as seen in the ''Victory'' cartoon (like [[Sixshot]]'s "Wingwolf" mode, [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]'s "space jet" mode and [[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]]'s "Hydra" mode before it) is not part of the original toy's official instructions, as it was created by the production staff of the anime by fiddling around with it.

===Foreign names===
*''Russian:'' '''Pobedonosec''' (Победоносец, "Victorious")

[[Category:Cats]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Robot Masters Autobots]]
[[Category:Transformers with three modes]]
[[Category:Victory Autobots]]
[[Category:Zone Autobots]]

Talk:Gigant Sniper

2012-04-04T03:00:07Z

HydraDW: New page: Since he started out in 2025, I changed "20th century" to "early 20th century". ~~~~

Since he started out in 2025, I changed "20th century" to "early 20th century". [[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 23:00, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

Gigant Sniper

2012-04-04T02:54:13Z

HydraDW:

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:''Gigant Sniper is a [[Decepticon]] combiner from the [[Robot Masters]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

When the [[Decepticon]] [[Gigant Bomb]] time-travelled to [[Earth]]'s [[2004|early 21st century]], he discovered the ability to combine with that era's [[Smokesniper]] into the massive "high mobility fortress"<ref>http://web.archive.org/web/20080209012609/http://megazarak.hp.infoseek.co.jp/japaspe/robot/masters.html</ref> '''Gigant Sniper''' (ギガントスナイパー ''Gigantosunaipā''). With Gigant Bomb's sheer power, Smokesniper's skill, and an arsenal including a devastating missile-launching cannon as well as the [[solitarium]] Pulverizer and Radial Pod, Gigant Sniper has no reason to fear any [[Autobot]]—except the two-man combiner [[Star Saber|Victory Saber]], who as luck would have it followed Gigant Bomb back from [[2025]].

==Fiction==
===''Robot Masters'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Toshitsugu Takashina]] (Gigant Bomb) / [[Masayuki Katō]] (Smokesniper)

[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] rode atop Gigant Sniper as he pursued [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. Unfortunately for the Decepticons, [[Lio Convoy]] knocked Megatron off and Victory Saber used his Saber Blade to break the superjet back into his component members. {{storylink|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters (episode)|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters}}

===''Robot Masters'' online comic===

In an aerial battle over solitarium, Victory Saber proved more powerful than Gigant Sniper. {{storylink|Bonds Stronger than Steel}} The two had a rematch, but Victory Saber won again, and this time Gigant Bomb and the rest of the time-displaced Decepticons were sent home, ensuring Gigant Sniper's inactivity for at least twenty years. {{storylink|And Then}}

==Toys==
===Robot Masters===
*'''Smokesniper''' and '''Gigant Bomb''' (2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM13''', '''RM14'''
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles, 2 missile launchers, Radial Pod (Smokesniper) 12 missiles, Pulverizer (Gigant Bomb)

: A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] and [[Smokescreen (G2)|Smokescreen]], Gigant Sniper transforms into a "flying wing" style stealth bomber with under-slung six-missile gatling cannon. Removing Smokesniper from the rear of the jet automatically folds Gigant Bomb's wings to begin his transformation to Cybertronic tank mode.

: Unique to this release are the solitarium weapons "Pulverizer", a hand-held non-firing cannon, and "Radial Pod", a hand-held non-firing...box...thing. The two weapons can combine, but not into anything that looks like anything.

: The same mold is used by [[BB]] and [[Dreadwind (RID)|Dreadwind]]. The mold was also intended to be used for [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron]] in ''Generation 2'', but was never released. It was also [[repurposing|repurposed]] for ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Darkwind (SG)|Darkwind]] and [[Dreadwind (SG)|Dreadwind]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Destron/GigantBomb/gigantbomb.htm More information on Gigant Bomb at TFU.info]''
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Destron/Smokesniper/smokesniper.htm More information on Smokesniper at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
*Gigant Sniper's name is pronounced with a pair of hard G's: "gai-gant". ''Gigant'' is a German word meaning "giant" as a noun.
*This is the only release of the Dreadwing/Smokescreen mold that was not sold as a two-pack.

==References==
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[[Category:Combined forms]]
[[Category:Japanese-original Transformers]]
[[Category:Robot Masters Decepticons]]
[[Category:Zone Decepticons]]

Talk:Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle

2012-04-03T07:47:16Z

HydraDW:

....okay. This is Japanese kata-whatever overkill. This is going to be Englished and moved. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
: All right. Moved it around a bit. Each character already gets their foreign names listed on their individual pages, so there's no reason to bring them up elsewhere. Damn, I wish this thing had a shorter title. To link it, you have to remember a whole freakin' novel. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
::Could we simply abbreviate it to "Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle"? That's no different than simply saying "Mystery of Convoy". We could reserve the novella title as a redirect.
::On the subject of making phrases more manageable, I'm tempted to reduce "Super Certain Kill Technique" to "Super Deathblow", which isn't quite as literal but is MUCH less awkward. I'm not sure how attached everyone is to the kitsch of the longer version, though.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 18:42, 11 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Well, we could remove the "Transformers", since [http://dorando.emuverse.com/images/beast-wars_00.png it isn't in the game itself]. I'm not enamored with the idea of outright removing words in the title of the game just because it'd look prettier, though. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:59, 11 July 2009 (EDT)

This supposed "certain kill technique" is the same expression that's typically translated as "Special Move." As it is, it's extremely literal and clunky. And in fact, it is just a strong special move, and not a Fatality or something like that. How would "Super Finisher" or "Super Finishing Move" be as an alternative? [[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 03:47, 3 April 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Galvatron II

2012-03-23T03:35:19Z

HydraDW:

Uh where's the part where he fights G2 Ultra Magnas in what could be an expansion of the Jpn-Animated continuity 's G2?

*I'm afraid I don't know what you're referring to. Where did this happen? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 00:54, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
: The eHobby toy is [http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?&port=33301&req=PRODUCT&code=tfce_35explicitly the Marvel Comics Galvatron II]. I don't, however, think it has anything to do with the Japanese animated continuity. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
:: "Consistency is victory!"
"Ultra Magnus once lost his life in a Decepticon attack. When he did, as he had briefly been the bearer of the Matrix, his soul was invited to join those guardians of wisdom beyond that of the present world, but it did not seem to him that he truly belonged there. '''Now, aware of Galvatron II putting the galaxy in crisis by commanding a fearsome mobile battle fortress,''' he has used Optimus Prime's "Matrix of Reconfiguration" and achieved his own resurrection!
Abilities:
Programmed with a new combat structure, Ultra Magnus normal form now possesses power rivaling his original large robot mode, on top of which he has complete control over a battle station equipped with a diverse array of armaments. He can also feed energy from his laser core into the gun and longsword that are his personal weapons, providing them enormous destructive power (http://www.e-hobby.co.jp/cgi-bin/omc?&port=33301&req=PRODUCT&code=tfe23)."

On second look this story does appear to have some US G2 in it, what with the fleet of War Worlds
:Specifically, as has been noted before, it seems to be referencing the unofficial Transforce convention story "Alignment," which had Galvatron II and a fleet of War Worlds. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
::The line "he had briefly been the bearer of the Matrix" Seems to suggest that this takes place in a spinoff from a timeline in which TFTM has occoured, which should weed out many Comic Timelines, plus there's the mention of the Reconfiguration Matrix, which IIRC Was only in the G2 Manga and some US Bios.
:::The [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] is FROM the US bios, so I don't see it as proof that this exists in Japanese animated continuity, especially since it was used the same year in BotCon 2005 Ironhide's bio. The Reconfiguration Matrix is just a commonly-used artifact which originated from the G2 era. (You're X-Bob, aren't you?) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm an idiot, I somehow misread this Talk page as "Galvatron BWII". Whoah is me. -[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 01:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

I would just like to say that the last line in the trivia is one of the best line's I've ever read. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 00:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

== Gold Filagree ==

I'd like to see a picture of this dude's toy with the aforementioned stickers. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:18, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

== Name ==

I don't really think "Galvatron II" is the best name for this article. First, it wasn't his in-fiction name. Nobody went around calling him Galvatron II. Second, even if it were really his name, it is his Japanese name. When we have an English name for a character we use that. Having said that, I appreciate the need for him to have is own page, and maybe there aren't better alternatives. But how about one alternative: this page would work well as a sub-page of "Galvatron (G1)", such as [Edit: "Galvatron (G1)/Rhythms of Darkness!"] for instance. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:23, 18 November 2009 (EST)
: If a character has a real name somewhere that keeps them from being, for example, "Galvatron (G1)/Rhythms of Darkness," we should use that name. I don't care if it's Sumerian. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:58, 18 November 2009 (EST)
::This. I'm not sure why in the world you prefer something as hideous as "Galvatron (G1)/Rhythms of Darkness!" to the simple and official "Galvatron II". And appending "II" to the name does not make it a "Japanese name". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:59, 18 November 2009 (EST)
:::If my suggestion is too ugly, that's fine. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:51, 18 November 2009 (EST)
Dude. His English name is "Galvatron". Nobody in English fiction called him "Galvatron II." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:20, 18 November 2009 (EST)
: The Japanese fiction did not create the name, but borrowed it from "[[Alignment]]," which is as English as it gets. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:24, 18 November 2009 (EST)
::Our policies are more "firm suggestions" than "absolute laws." Galvatron II was only canonically published in Japan, but it's more canonical than anything else we could possibly call him, so the exception to the rule of English supremacism should stand. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:26, 18 November 2009 (EST)
:::That also. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:32, 18 November 2009 (EST)
::Doh! I forgot about Alignment. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:12, 18 November 2009 (EST)
:"Galvatron II" is as much a name as "Galvatron (G1)" is. "II" is not part of the character's actual name, but a disambiguation used in official sources. And you'll note that the very first sentence in the article names the character simply "Galvatron". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:31, 18 November 2009 (EST)
::::Then what do we call the Galvatron from Aspects of Evil which came between Galvatron I and Galvatron II? He can't be either of them. [[Special:Contributions/95.148.8.38|95.148.8.38]] 14:53, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

== Perchance to Dream ==

I'm willing to say that the non-Time Wars Galvatron who showed up in the "Perchance to Dream" stories is actually [[Galvatron II]]. We know he's not Galvatron I, as he says as much, and the PtD stories are part of the [[Earthforce]] continuity, which references vaguely plans Furman had in mind for the US comic, but ultimately ended up being incompatible. Now, it's impossible to reconcile the timeline between these two iterations of the character for that reason, but I do think the PtD stuff should be in its own section on this page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:27, 23 January 2010 (EST)
:I think... and I'm not getting them out to check right now, but I THINK... that one of the "history of Marvel UK" sections included in the Titan TPs outright says that the PtD Galvatron is Galvatron II. And while they're uncredited, I'm fairly sure Furman wrote those himself. I always thought it made a lot of sense, anyway - if one assumes that this is Galvatron II, then essentially, it's a timeline branch - in one branch, he goes to Cybertron abd the US comic storyline happens, but in the other, he instead goes to the Ark and stars in PtD instead, then Earthforce happens (because Galvatron never does his thing with Emirate Xaaron to make Unicron suspicious, causing him to speed to Cybertron instead of taking his time, leaving the room Earthforce needs to occur).- [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:35, 23 January 2010 (EST)
::Yeah, that seals it. The Dinobot Hunt trade says that the PtD Galvatron "is the alternate-reality Galvatron from US #67." So. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:52, 23 January 2010 (EST)
:::Nice sleuthing, wiki-folk!--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:34, 23 January 2010 (EST)

==That last trivia note==

Um, I may be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that Galvatron II didn't dimension-hop into the timeline before Galvatron I's creation. He dimension-hopped into Japanese G-2, right? Which takes place after Zone in 2015 or so? So, uh, I feel like we need to nix that bit, but I want to be sure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 24 January 2010 (EST)
:Well, Ichikawa's retcon made it so that the Galvatron who appeared in various story pages alongside Megatron and Prime was a dimension-hopping Galvatron II (we even have a fiction section for it right there) and I don't think any of those story pages were retconned into taking place after G-2. So it looks like Galvatron II did a couple hops. First to the pre-2005 point in the timeline so he could act as Megatron's subordinate in those old story pages, then he either hopped again or took the long way and waited so he coule appear in the post G-2 bios and mini comics. Either way, the Galvatron seen in those story pages was retconned into Galvatron II, and those pages take place pre-2005, so I don't think that trivia note is exactly inaccurate. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 08:45, 24 January 2010 (EST)

In one of the Japanese childrens book series (Kodansha no Terebi Ehon #93), the Galvatron appearing is in his toy colors all the way through. There are not two different Galvatrons within the story. Could this be considered an appearance of II, or just normal Galvatron in toy colors? [[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 23:35, 22 March 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Three Wise Ones

2012-03-21T03:12:50Z

HydraDW: New page: Since there is no official translation as of yet, wouldn't "Three Sages" be a more conventional translation? "Wise One of Fire," etc., sounds especially odd. ~~~~

Since there is no official translation as of yet, wouldn't "Three Sages" be a more conventional translation? "Wise One of Fire," etc., sounds especially odd. [[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 23:12, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Arms Micron

2012-03-16T05:32:52Z

HydraDW: New page: I don't see why the team needs to be referred to as plural "Arms Micron," which is admittedly awkward, when Microns plural are normally given an "S." With katakana, an "S" sound is typical...

I don't see why the team needs to be referred to as plural "Arms Micron," which is admittedly awkward, when Microns plural are normally given an "S." With katakana, an "S" sound is typically not added at the end even for plural things, and the descision is often made in the translation.
As "Arms Microns," I really don't see anything too unwieldy about the name. They're Microns that turn into weapons (arms), hence the name. [[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 01:32, 16 March 2012 (EDT)

Reconfiguration Matrix

2012-03-12T08:12:40Z

HydraDW:

:''The Reconfiguration Matrix is a device in the ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:G2StoryPageReconfigurationMatrix1.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Since when has Prime needed a reason for coming back to life?]]
The '''Reconfiguration Matrix''' (or '''Internal Reconfiguration Matrix''') is a device within [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] which allows him to transform his body into numerous entirely distinct robot and vehicle modes.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-images/tech-specs/Generation-2-Tech-Specs/1995-Transformers-Tech-Specs/Optimus_Prime__1995-USA1_.jpg.html Optimus Prime's ''Generation 2'' Go-Bot on-package bio]</ref> It can also reconfigure the bodies of others and even produce new bodies for dissociated [[spark]]s.

==Fiction==
===''Generation 2'' toy bios===
Using his internal reconfiguration matrix, Optimus Prime was "recently" able to convert himself into different vehicle modes. The fastest of these new forms by far was his [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bot]] one! {{storylink|Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Go-Bot Optimus Prime bio}}

===Japanese cartoon continuity===
====''G-2'' story pages and pack-in comic====
[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] formed a research team which studied the properties of the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and eventually discovered the Reconfiguration Matrix mechanism within it. {{storylink|Transformers: G-2 (story page)|G-2 Part 5}}

In an epic battle with [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], Optimus Prime's weaponry was disabled by [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]]. He was then badly injured by an attack from [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] and [[Smokescreen (G2)|Smokescreen]]. Megatron finally administered the fatal blow and believed his enemy was finally finished. The sparks of past Autobot leaders within the Matrix of Leadership then activated the Reconfiguration Matrix, reviving Optimus Prime as Battle Convoy. {{storylink|Transformers: G-2 (pack-in manga)|G-2 #13}}

====e-HOBBY comics====
When [[Galvatron II]] threatened the galaxy with a mobile battle fortress, the deceased Matrix-bearer [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] became aware of it from within the Matrix. He reached out to Optimus Prime and used the Autobot leader's Reconfiguration Matrix to resurrect himself in a new [[Laser Rod]] body. Magnus also gained the ability to convert into other forms (such as his original body).<ref>[http://www.e-hobbymagazine.com/english/museun_en/2647.html Ultra Magnus's e-HOBBY toy bio]</ref>

===Descent into Evil===
Optimus Prime used the Reconfiguration Matrix to generate a new form for [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] after he was badly damaged at the battle of [[Moon Base Four]].<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/database/character.php?char_id=3320 Ironhide's ''Timelines'' toy pack-in bio]</ref>

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Saikōsei Matrix''' (再構成マトリクス ''Saikōsei Matorikusu'', "Reconfiguration Matrix")

==References==
<references />

[[Category:Beast Wars]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:Generation 2]]
[[Category:Matrices]]

Talk:MP-1B Cybertron Commander / Convoy Black Ver.

2012-03-09T05:54:18Z

HydraDW:

MP Black Convoy is not Optimus Prime, so he goes on another page.

Maybe [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Dann]]'s? Ahehehehaha? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:15, 18 January 2010 (EST)
:I guess? I'm just not sure whether we need a new character page for... "Convoy Black Ver." or whatever his name is. We have [[Prowl II]], even though that's Chase's brain. (Admittedly, that example has more complex stuff going on.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:32, 18 January 2010 (EST)

:The toy's bio notes that the "Black Convoy" bodies are called "Eldedroids". The figure appearing in the comic appears to be but one of these mass-produced robots, with the mind of "Dann" controlling it. Also, that's probably [[Diver (Masterforce)|Diver]], rather than [[Waverider]], bein' J-toon continuity and all! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:23, 18 January 2010 (EST)
::Doesn't Laser Magnus's backstory include [[Galvatron II]], a Marvel Comics guy who commanded [[Warworld]]s and wore the [[Creation Matrix]] around his neck? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:06, 18 January 2010 (EST)
:::And who was stated to have come from another dimension. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:09, 18 January 2010 (EST)
::::And Ironhide is alive despite never getting a Binaltech toy which might explain his reappearance, and the American character Splashdown is there just for shits and giggles? (Actually, considering Diver and Waverider are separate pages, shouldn't allegedly Japanese Splashdown get his own?) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:40, 18 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Arguably! On Ironhide, the Binaltech story chapters strongly imply that most, if not all, of the Autobots were transferred to Binaltech bodies, in addition to just those few who got toys. But as I've just recently written over in the story chapters pages, we really don't know what happened in the "mainstream" cartoon universe during that time period after the Binaltech story was diverged off. But it's not like this is me making up the fact that this is in J-continuity, the 2007 timeline put the e-Hobby story with Laser Magnus and Galvy II and black-body THS Prime in there! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:06, 18 January 2010 (EST)
We should also link the weird techno whale creature. Hopefully we'll get a name for him in the next six pages? Maybe? He doesn't look like either a [[Klud]] or [[Hytherion]]... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:39, 18 January 2010 (EST)
:It's presumably just a native lifeform altered by the Decepticons. (Looks more like a gulper eel to me.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:09, 18 January 2010 (EST)

Aw man, I just read this and on the last page, I saw goatse. I need a new brain. Though if we ever needed a site image to send to hotlinkers... --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 18:20, 18 January 2010 (EST)

I won't be making any edits myself, but here are a few details about this story that have been misinterpreted:
The Pretender is Splashdown, not Diver, per the authorial intent of Hidetsugu Yoshioka. This is why he's the same size as Waverider in shell, and not human-sized. The implication being that both Diver and Splashdown exist in J-cartoon continuity, with the major difference being that Diver uses an Earth Gather to miniaturize himself, whereas Splashdown doesn't.
The Eldedroid in this story is not controlled by Daniel, but instead imbued with a personality created based on Daniel. This is why he says "The human..." and so on.[[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 00:54, 9 March 2012 (EST)

Talk:Wingthing (G1)

2012-03-09T01:07:14Z

HydraDW: /* Re: Wingthing's gender */ new section

Since Wingthing's Animated counterpart is female, are we sure this one is a guy? --[[Special:Contributions/75.82.9.197|75.82.9.197]] 02:02, 29 December 2011 (EST)
:It doesn't work that way. [[Red Alert (Animated)]] is female but [[Red Alert (G1)]] is not. - [[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 10:56, 29 December 2011 (EST)
::But is there any evidence that this Wingthing is definitely male? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:08, 29 December 2011 (EST)
:::It's a different continuity family, so it's irrelevant. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 29 December 2011 (EST)
::::I understand that, I'm just curious if this Wingthing's gender is established or simply assumed. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:39, 29 December 2011 (EST)
:::::Unless this article is missing something, the only information about Wingthing is in Soundwave's tech spec bio. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:42, 29 December 2011 (EST)
::::::If the tfu.info page is an accurate transcription, there is no indication of Wingthing's gender in that bio. Should we desex this article? Or just add a note that he is used for convenience and is not to be considered definitive? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:46, 29 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::I suppose you'd have to do that with every character whose gender isn't clear. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:01, 29 December 2011 (EST)
::::::::I imagine the upcoming Encore release is a good opportunity for a gendered pronoun. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:06, 29 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::Hasbro wouldn't secretly give Soundwave a female robotic sidekick. If Wingthing is ever made female it would be a retcon. If Regeneration One is issue 81 I fully expect to read all about these Action Master Partner creatures. Their gimmick is on deck. But I'm not holding my breath. - [[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 15:04, 29 December 2011 (EST)
::::::::You can't retcon something that was never established, Starfield. (And considering how Furman hates cooties, I'm not looking to him for additional female characters.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:08, 29 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::Wingthing especially wouldn't be female in a Marvel continuity story. (Man, ''Recordicons'' strips set in Classics could potentially double the number of chicks.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:08, 29 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::Try going back in time to 1991 and asking an eleven year old owner of Soundwave if making Wingthing a girl would be a retcon. Hasbro just didn't make female Transformer toys back in the G1 era. Much less secretly female Transformers. It didn't happen. But we don't know much of anything about Action Master partners. A lot of their bios make them sound beast-like. If they are some sort of Cybertronian wildlife they could be male and female. Even in Marvel. - [[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 15:32, 29 December 2011 (EST)
::::::::::A 11 year old in 1991 is not going to know what "retcon" is, much less be concerned over the gender of their robot bat toy. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:56, 29 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::::Transformers are male until proven otherwise. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:08, 29 December 2011 (EST)
::::::::::::I guess my point is that our mission statement is to accumulate all official information on TFs and only official information on TFs. If there is no explicit mention of gender for a particular character, using a gendered pronoun is actually using unofficial information. Now, if Thy's statement has any official standing that would invalidate my point, but otherwise it seems we should not used gendered pronouns for characters that have not been stated as such in official sources or should use them but place a note on the page that such pronouns are only used for convenience and are subject to being changed in the event of explicit evidence. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:36, 29 December 2011 (EST)
:::::::::::::My stance is, I really doubt Bob Budiansky thought Wingthing was a chick when he wrote AM Soundwave's bio. Until someone comes along and uses the pronounless bio as an opportunity to create a female, Wingthing is male by default, just judging by the era Wingthing was created in. We're kidding ourselves if we believe that these G1 guys are possibly girls just because no pronouns are used. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:28, 29 December 2011 (EST)

== Re: Wingthing's gender ==

Not only is Wingthing not female, the bio card for the Japanese reissue makes it very clear that Wingthing is a non-sentient drone imbued with a personality simulation program. We may or may not assume by extension that all Action Master partners are drones, depending on where you want to go with that. [[User:HydraDW|HydraDW]] 20:07, 8 March 2012 (EST)

Dark Nova

2012-03-08T13:03:59Z

HydraDW:

:''Dark Nova is a weird alien thingy from the [[Return of Convoy (franchise)|Return of Convoy]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]] who later becomes '''Star Giant'''.''

{{faction|decepticon}}

[[Image:DarkNova3.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Bossa Nova!!]]
'''Dark Nova''' (ダークノヴァ ''Dāku Nova'') is a mysterious supernatural entity from outer space who sides with the [[Decepticon]]s against the [[Autobot]]s. Known as the "Ultimate Emperor", he revived [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], upgrading him into [[Megatron (G1)|Super Megatron]], and later merged with him to become the '''Star Giant''' (星の巨人 ''Hoshi no Kyojin''). He commands armies of [[Novaroid]] drones and [[Galaman]] troopers, which make up the bulk of his forces.

==Fiction==
===''The Battlestars'' story pages===
Almost immediately following the defeat of [[Violen Jiger]], Dark Nova rose to take his place as [[Decepticon]] [[Emperor of Destruction|Emperor]] and began unleashing his hordes of [[Galaman]] warriors upon the universe. [[Autobot]] [[Supreme Commander]] [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]] realized that the only one capable of defeating Dark Nova was [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and ordered the [[Battlestars]] to use the [[Zodiac]] to revive the legendary commander. {{storylink|Zone (story page)|Zone Part 10}} {{storylink|The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars Part 1}}

To thwart the Battlestars, Dark Nova abducted the body of Optimus Prime and cloned it as the sinister [[False Convoy]]. With the help of [[Grandus (ROC)|Grandus]], the Battlestars defeated False Convoy. {{storylink|The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars Part 3}} The Battlestars then invaded the Decepticon planet [[Lucifer]], rescued Prime's body and used the Zodiac to resurrect him as Star Convoy. {{storylink|The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars Part 4}}

[[Image:StarGiantRobot1.jpg|left|250px|thumb|''Bossa Nova''?]]

To counter the threat of Star Convoy, Dark Nova did one better: He beamed a blast of weird energy down to the frozen corpse of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] in the North Pole, resurrecting and upgrading him into [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Super Megatron]]. {{storylink|The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars Part 6}} From the [[Dark Nebula]], Dark Nova snickered with glee as Super Megatron led the Galaman forces in raiding the Earth of all its energy. Super Megatron was subsequently driven from the planet by Star Convoy. {{storylink|The Battlestars (manga)|The Battlestars special}}

Eventually, Star Convoy defeated Super Megatron, resulting in Dark Nova providing another upgrade, this time into Ultra Megatron. Dark Nova then revealed himself to aid Ultra Megatron in battle. {{storylink|The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars Part 8}} Ultra Megatron was ultimately defeated as well. Irritated, Dark Nova merged with Ultra Megatron, resulting in the '''Star Giant'''. {{storylink|The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars Part 9}} He proved nearly indestructible from the outside, so Star Convoy, [[Grandus (ROC)|Grandus]] and [[Sky Garry (ROC)|Sky Garry]] allowed themselves to be eaten. Inside the Star Giant's tummy, they began tearing him apart. After doing a fatal amount of damage, the trio escaped just as Star Giant detonated. The only piece of Star Giant which survived the explosion was a portion of his head, which happened to be housing the remains of Ultra Megatron, allowing the Emperor of Destruction to survive. {{storylink|The Battlestars (story page)|The Battlestars Part 10}}
{{--}}

==Notes==
[[Image:DarkNovaCron1.jpg|right|225px|thumb|Er... Chevy Nova?]]
[[Image:DarkNovaRobot1.jpg|right|225px|thumb|Excellent!]]

*The first ''Return of Convoy'' toy catalogue [[story page]] depicted Dark Nova as an ominous, spectral figure looking '''very''' much like [[Unicron]]. However, none of the text boxes in the story so much as ''mentioned'' the name "Unicron", and the actual ''The Battlestars'' magazine story pages and manga made no connection to Unicron whatsoever. This leads many to wonder whether Dark Nova is ''actually'' connected to Unicron or if it was just an early concept dropped from the actual fiction. The [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)/src|Japanese timeline]] included with the ''[[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' manga made note of this by saying "The Great Emperor Dark Nova, who looks very similar to Unicron, appears", though offered no further connection. Interestingly, the Star Giant suffers a fate almost identical to Unicron's. Coincidence or creative bankruptcy?

*In the second catalogue [[story page]], Dark Nova's robot mode made its one and only appearance (and in an itty-bitty picture, at that). This mode was never used in the story pages published in ''[[TV Magazine]]''. Additionally, this story page shows Dark Nova being defeated in an altogether different way, being ripped in two by Star Convoy as the latter drives over him in truck mode.

*"Hoshi no Kyojin" (星の巨人), the Japanese characters from which the "Star Giant" name derive, appear to be an intentional reversal of "Kyojin no Hoshi" (巨人の星), which is...the title of a classic Japanese baseball manga and anime, otherwise known as ''[[wikipedia:Star of the Giants|Star of the Giants]]''. Why this was done is anyone's guess, and Dark Nova's like or dislike of baseball never really came up in the extant ''The Battlestars'' fiction.

[[Category:Decepticon leaders]]
[[Category:Emperors]]
[[Category:Fiction-only characters]]
[[Category:Japanese-original characters]]
[[Category:Return of Convoy Decepticons]]
[[Category:Unicron-related characters]]

Talk:Sideswipe (G1)

2012-03-08T12:32:11Z

HydraDW:

I didn't cut and past that bio, and where else are we going to discuss that bio's contibution to canon? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 02:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Just... you know, a crazy suggestion, but perhaps on a page for the character who's inhabiting Sideswipe's spare body? He's a separate dude, so he gets a separate page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:56, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

There is some abiguity as to whether or not that whole "separate dude" thing is actually real, Walky. It's something I've been meaning to ask Doug/Ichikawa about for a while, actually.
ALSO, "e-hobby" is not a fiction. It's not a story. All it has is bios. IF e-hobby Sideswipe is in fact a nrew dude, then it goes on a new dude's page. If it's not, then the overview of that bio goes in the TOY section when the e-hobby release is discussed.
--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]

"ALSO, "e-hobby" is not a fiction."
It's still canon
"He's a separate dude"
That's the first I've heard of this theory, Care to eleaberate? I thought NY Lambor represented the new body that they put his spark into after he died(offscreen) in the movie?

What e-Hobby bio? the ones he and red Alert had ages ago? they reprented, IIRC, nto reissues but specifically later incarnations of the character, but they were the same characters. TFPulp had translations and their different cardart back in the day. -[[User:Derik|Derik]]

It DOESN'T MATTER if it's canon... IT'S NOT '''FICTION''' as presented in this wiki and therefore should '''NOT''' go in the "Fiction" section. This is not a difficult premise at all. - [[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]]

???

I am highly skeptical of [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Sideswipe_(G1)&diff=21647&oldid=21646 this revision]. Aren't there other Japanese names that are basically just the altmode name? Why would this one have a special double meaning? Also, wouldn't Lambor and Rambo have different "o" sounds, making them not the same word after all? It just sounds like something some fan noticed once and now there are people treating it like it was intentional or meaningfgul... --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:In Japanese, "bo" is "bo". The character is always pronounced the same. The only difference between Lambor and Rambo is the "ru" at the end of Lambor. Ligier/Mirage is the only other one with a reference to his car mode. Besides, considering how reflective it is of Sideswipe's character (at least the reckless part), I don't see why it couldn't get a mention. There's no confirmation on the Nine Great Demon Generals' name being a word pun yet it's included in the article. {{unsigned|70.55.211.39}}
::I don't know if this conclusion is even remotely true, but it is correct that the pronounciation is the same. Lambor is actually pronounced like "Rambo" would be in English, with the syllable "ru" at the end. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 17:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::How about the fact that the film ''First Blood'' was released in Japan in December of 1982, less than two years before this name would have been applied to the toy? Assuming 70.55.211.39 is correct that Rambo is now a "Japanese word", would it have been that soon after the movie? Was Rambo an instant and widespread pop culture phenomenon in Japan? I would be alright with a trivia notice saying that the names are pronounced very similarly, and that this ''may'' not be coincidence, but I think actually attributing any intent is a huge stretch. Perhaps 70.55.211.39 / 70.55.211.238 is an expert on Japanese fads in the 1980s, but since I am not I am reluctant to treat Rambo like it was a popular word at the time. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 17:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Rambo has always been a Japanese word. ''First Blood'' was released in Japan under the name ''Rambo'' because it was noticed the character's last name was the same as their word for violence. The kanji for it is 乱暴, look it up. Anyway, I did a revision, leaving it up to speculation. Also linked to the Nine Great Demon Generals and the Autorooper to point out it wouldn't be a standalone case of Takara doing a word pun like that... I think it's interesting enough to go in the trivia, mostly because it fits the character's personality, if it was attributed to a guy like Wheeljack then I wouldn't have bothered but Sideswipe as far as his original tech specs go do portray him as violent and reckless character. [[User:70.55.211.39|70.55.211.39]] 18:28, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Ahhh. See, it makes a lot more sense when you explain that "rambo" has always been a Japanese word, and that it's not a pun on the name of an American movie's lead character. I am satisfied with the current wording. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I have a question: Does anyone know what happened to Sidewsipe and Sunstreaker after the movie. It would appear that neither of them actually died in battle, so did they sirvive in the animated continuity? Did they appear in seasons 3 or 4? Thanks. --[[User:Mcada|Mcada]] 06:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
:Sideswipe just didn't appear in the movie to my knowledge, and Sunstreaker and his doppleganger appear to have survived, though neither, like most of the original cast, were seen much, if at all again in Season 3. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
::Sideswipe was planned to appear in the movie but his scene didn't go beyond storyboarding. As for Sunstreaker, his only post-movie appearance was in a Headmasters episode, according to the info on wikipedia. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 09:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Cool... thanks! --[[User:58.106.158.219|58.106.158.219]] 11:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

==Extra Pic==
Dunno where else this could go. Am considering deleting it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:53, 27 November 2009 (EST)
:I'm all for deleting it. It's from a shameful era of TF art. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:57, 27 November 2009 (EST)
::Even though I uploaded it (at the time we only had some crappy box art of Sideswipe, IIRC), I concur. Plus, I am all for differentiating ourselves from Wikia (I wonder if I can convince TX55 to let me change the main image of some wikia articles.) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:42, 27 November 2009 (EST)

==New Year's Sideswipe==
Did we ever establish whether New Year's Sideswipe was really a new guy inhabiting Sideswipe's spare body? If it was debunked, we should mention it in Notes. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 23:46, 31 July 2010 (EDT)

: I'm pretty sure that they're the same person. -- [[User:CountFrankenBot|CountFrankenBot]]

To clear up the New Year Sideswipe issue, he is the original Sideswipe, with his life functions being returned to his original body after the G2 period. This was shortened in a way on the card that became very confusing, making direct reference to his past reckless nature, but calling him a "whole new Sideswipe." I published the full version of the bio on the e-HOBBY Museum, which makes specific references to other series such as Battlestars and G2, and explains that he returned to his previous body-type with the intention of owning up to his past faults. Both NY Sideswipe and Red Alert are ostensibly based in the post G2 period that later became the setting for many of e-HOBBY's stories.

Talk:MP-1B Cybertron Commander / Convoy Black Ver.

2012-03-08T12:22:58Z

HydraDW: