Talk:Starscream (G1)/toys

2011-01-25T04:56:45Z

Ihateyawning: /* Recent Starscream toys */ new section

==Pretender Starscream Request==
I don't have Pretender Starscream to test this, but I see the entry says the tail fin guns can't be stored, which I'm fairly sure is wrong. I believe the fin guns can peg into the holes on either side of the upper part of the rifle. Can anyone verify this for me?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 22:17, 4 August 2010 (EDT)

==Secret Starscream==
Nakas of Autobase Aichi has put forth the idea that "Secret Starscream", like Super Collection Figure Skywarp, was never actually sent out due to the bankruptcy of Keibunsha, the publisher. I *think* either the Binaltech And TF Collection book or one of the Generations 2009 books shows Secret Starscream, but I'd have to check to be sure, and I'm not sure what exactly is said about the piece either way. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 20:31, 10 December 2009 (EST)
:Ah-ha. It was in Generations 2009 volume 2.

:[http://obscuretf.com/tfscans/SecretStarscream.jpg Secret Starscream]

:Anyone want to take a crack at what that says? (At least we can get rid of the red speculation 'til then.) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:33, 12 December 2009 (EST)

== Transmetal Waspinator ==

I think it should also be considered a Starscream toy due to its portrayal in fiction. Trust me in this one.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 20:47, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: Which fiction? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:42, 28 February 2010 (EST)
::Probably the Sourcebook... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:47, 28 February 2010 (EST)
:::*facepalm* --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:12, 28 February 2010 (EST)
::::Was that a yes?--[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 21:41, 16 August 2010 (EDT)
:::::Considering that Optimus Primal gets a bunch of random entries on his toys page, because he gets a new body for five seconds in some Japanese text stories, shouldn't we put both Waspinator's Regular beast and Transmetal body on this page? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:40, 9 January 2011 (EST)
::::::Wait... it just hit me... Starscream possesses a bunch of bot's in his ghost appearances, doesn't he? Urgh. What a nightmare... Maybe just a note or something... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 16:43, 9 January 2011 (EST)
:::::::I'd go with notes. Starscream possesses these others, their bodies are still their own. On the other hand, if a character ("Character A") is given a new body all his own that is a duplication of another character ("Character B")'s body the toy representing that body should be considered as a repurposed toy for Character A. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:12, 9 January 2011 (EST)

== Alternate caption idea ==

I think perhaps a funnier caption for his first Masterpiece toy would be "[[Puppet|I look like.... Thundercracker.]]" [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 19:05, 22 July 2010 (EDT)

== GID MW Starscream Missiles ==

I have an odd variant of the MW Starscream figure that includes Glow-In-The-Dark missiles. The stock in South Eastern CT (as well as who-knows-where-else) seemed to include these in good numbers, as the original that I bought (and still have) included them, as did a second example that I sent to Orson Christensen/Sidecutter (of Captured Prey) in trade (or if my memory is failing, he may have verified that the one he bought in KY also included them...in any event, he confirmed that I didn't have the only one)

I have always assumed (since they're not standard) that this was just an example of lax QC on the line, and someone tossed GID plastic pellets into the hopper because it was pretty close in color to the right plastic and no one noticed.

In any event, I recently pulled the box with MW Screamer out of storage and tonight I verified that I really really do have phosphorescent missiles. I tried a few different things to take a picture but haven't had much luck. Any suggestions on how to provide photographic proof are welcome, or if the powers-that-be are willing to accept my tale on faith, I could just add a note to the entry...
--[[User:Destrongerlupus|Destrongerlupus]] 21:10, 16 November 2010 (EST)

== Recent Starscream toys ==

By the way why there is a rubsign on a G1 toy that comes with lots of accessories including fists, null rays, wings, tail rudders, tails, thrusters, landing gear and the Decepticon planes era Starscream? I thought rubsigns are introduced in reveal the shield?([[User:Ihateyawning|Ihateyawning]] 23:56, 24 January 2011 (EST))

Talk:Autobot Cars

2011-01-25T04:45:41Z

Ihateyawning: /* Transformers the Movie */

Uh...what? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:08, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

:...yeah, my thoughts exactly. I'm sure the group of larger 1984-5 guys WERE propably officially called this as a group at some point but I don't think it needs a page, and definately not one like this...--[[User:71.235.142.128|71.235.142.128]] 00:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Tell me what wrong with it?
:I think the page should exist, since it is a proper subgroup, but "most of the Autobots are in this group"? I think that's kind of not true. A lot. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Then instead of deleting it how 'bout editing it? Although I do know what Autobots are in the sub group so I'll get there eventually. I'll do it right now if you want? there are thousands of lists that say what characters are in it so I know I'll get that correct.

Just please don't delete this. PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

I am working my butt off to pt this together just edit it for god's sake if it is in bad quality.
:This was a fine request. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

You know what fine!!! Even if it does get deleted I'm going to just do it again.
:This was not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

OK. I'm not going to freak if you keep this off the article. But there are more transformers in the subgroup than just the generation 1 guys. there are also guys like Robots in disguise characters. just answer me and tell me if I should put those guys in this article. But I think I should. [[User:76.253.95.147|76.253.95.147]] a.k.a. creator of this article
:If this distinction reaches across continuities, how ''do'' you define who goes in it?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::I have a list copied off the internet of all members from all different continuities and their jobs. we could divide it up for every continuity. But just tell me if I should put the rest of the characters.
:::You have a list... off of the internet? And why should we treat this list as reliable?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:47, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::Well because it is off multiple sites and one site actually has a member who knows about almost everything transformers
:::::So let me get this straight, the requirements for being an "Autobot Car" are:
:::::*Be an Autobot
:::::*Be a car.
:::::Because if that's correct, that's ''nearly all of them''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::No they have to not be mini vehicles like Bumblebee Brawn or Huffer and actually there are very few in the Robots in Disguise series but I know what characters go in so just give me a straight answer. yes or no.
:::::::The bottom line is that you are telling us these go in because you say they go in, without any reliable source to show ''why''. So why should we?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::::just please don't think I'm a jerk. If you want a list go to www.seibertron.com

"Autobot Cars" were nothing more than a 'subgroup' sold by the catalogs from 1984 through 1986. As such, they could warrant their own 'division' as a relatively harmless descriptor (like 'Decepticon Jets', or 'Autobot Minibots', though they were never in any subgroup other than plain ol' 'Autobot' in any fiction. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] - who keeps forgetting the sign-off shorthand.
:I'm aware of that much, and in those terms I have no trouble with the article. But this guy is claiming there are figures ''outside'' of that period of time that merit inclusion, and I'm trying to get him to tell me ''why''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::I've already gone through this PLEASE don't delete it and tell me if I can add more characters that ''are'' in the subgroup
did you go onto the site and look at the subgroup members cause it does say the characters
:Unless you know Seibertron.com's source, we're still back at square one.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::The member says (or at least claims) that he knows almost everything about transformers because he went to all the conventions and saw all the episodes.
:::Then that's hearsay. We can't accept that.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
OK then delete if you need to but just keep in mind this is just my first article so delete if needed.
:Well, I'm not saying that the article needs to be deleted. I'm fully willing to accept that it's a marketing term used from '84 to '86, having had a vague remembering of the catalogs from that period using that term. The only thing I was getting on you about is the notion that it was used as a marketing term since. It could well have been, but we'd need something to back that up.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 00:43, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::As far as I can tell, the only way the 'Autobot cars' in RID were mentioned 'as a group', either through the cartoon, promo material, or through Hasbro's packaging, was 'Autobot Brothers'. The lot of them, in turn, were sold as 'Deluxe Autobots', based on their price point. --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]
::Also wik - don't rely on Seibertron.com for squat. :) --[[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]]

Give me one of the Autobot Brothers names. would Side burn or X-Brawn be one of them!!??

:Yes.

so maybe i should just create a whole different article on Autobot Brothers and put the rest g1 guys in now.

==This info's in the wrong place.==
Soooooooo..... since this is basically a group defined SOLELY by the toy catalogs, and never mentioned, named, or otherwise demonstrated in any fiction ever.... why isn't it just part of a page about the toy catalogs? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:58, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== Transformers the Movie ==

Okay did almost all the Autobot cars get killed off in the Movie and Bumblebee, Cliffjumper and Jazz are the only ones surviving?

By the way why is Optimus Prime in Autobot cars? He's a '''truck''' not a car and same thing for Grapple, inferno and of course ratchet is an ambulance and ironhide is a mini van and springer turns into a cat as well.([[User:Ihateyawning|Ihateyawning]] 23:45, 24 January 2011 (EST))

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