Nova Storm (G1)

2019-08-18T09:51:31Z

Jeddostotle7: /* Generations */ correcting error saying Starscream and Skywarp have the same head, when they actually have different heads (Starscream's is neutral while Skywarp's is slightly sneering)

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{{disambig2|the Generation 1 Decepticon|the ''Cyberverse'' Decepticon|Nova Storm (Cyberverse)}}
:''Nova Storm is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Rainmakers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Nova Storm is the yellow one on the right.]]

One of the formidable [[Rainmaker]]s, '''Nova Storm''' is equipped with armor that allows him to survive volcanic environments or even the {{w|chromosphere}} of a star for short periods of time.

==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
When a group of [[Autobot]]s (and [[Chip Chase]]) journeyed to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to fetch a [[cosmitron]] for a wounded [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] sent the [[Rainmaker]] trio to make things difficult for our heroes with some [[acid rain]].

Guess what? They failed. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
[[File:Nova_Storm_AskVectorPrime.jpg|thumb|right|That spear is specifically for stabbing people who call him [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].]]

The Rainmakers were among the deadliest subordinates of [[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] on Cybertron and Earth in many [[universal stream]]s.

The [[Primax 509.28 Epsilon]] iteration of Nova Storm once nearly hit [[Vector Prime]] with his [[Trilithium Crystal Cannon]]s. This Nova is one of the few bots able to withstand the presence of Sunstorm. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/13}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:TF-Generations-WFC-S-Rainmaker-3-pack-Nova-Storm.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Seeker Acid Storm''' / '''Seeker Ion Storm''' / '''Seeker Nova Storm''' (multipack, 2019)
**''ID number'': '''WFC-S'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''TBA'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''TBA'''
**''Accessories:'' 6 "HPI [[Null-ray|Null-Ray]] Laser Launchers"
:This ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege (toyline)|Siege]]'' three-pack version of Nova Storm is a redeco of [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]] from the same line, transforming from a heavily Generation 1-inspired robot to a Cybertronian 'tetrajet' based on the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]]' appearance in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" and back; although the jet mode has the robot legs sticking out from the undercarriage. He includes two "HPI Null-Ray Laser Launchers," which can mount on his upper arms, or under the wings in jet mode, and comes with the other Rainmakers, all based on their appearance in "[[Divide and Conquer]]". All three feature battle damage and use the smirkless head sculpt used by Starscream

:This set was made available at general retail in US Target stores without prior announcement from Hasbro. Release venues elsewhere have yet to be announced.

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==Merchandise==
===The Loyal Subjects===
[[File:TLSRainmakers.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Make it Rain. (Nova Storm is on the left)]]
* '''Rainmakers''' (2013)
**''Accessories:'' Pegged wings, blasters
:''[[The Loyal Subjects]]'' Nova Storm (though he had not yet received his name) is a 3-inch non-transforming vinyl figure designed by Les Schetkoe. He comes in the "Rainmakers" set alongside [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] and [[Ion Storm]]. The set comes in a retro box and was released in a limited run of 500 pieces.
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==Notes==
* Despite the many different designations thought up by fans, the yellow and the blue Rainmakers went officially unnamed for over 30 years until a [[2015]] entry of the Facebook edition of [[Ask Vector Prime]] named the yellow one Nova Storm and the blue one [[Ion Storm]].
* The term "rainmakers" was originally used by [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] as a colloquial description of their actions. However, repeated [[Fandom|fan usage]] has turned this into a widely accepted name for the group, which was eventually made official as such by Hasbro's bio for [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]].
*A common piece of [[fanon]] identified the all-yellow Rainmaker as the partially yellow [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. However, even taking into consideration the haphazard coloring typically given to generic Seekers, chances were in favour of their not being the same guy. After being asked the question during the August 2010 Q&A, Hasbro confirmed that the yellow Rainmaker was not Sunstorm, but did not give him a name at that time.<ref>[http://www.asmzine.com/geekly-rewind/2010/07/26/hasbro-transformers-qa-july-2010-answers August 2010 Q&A on ASMzine:] ''"When the right opportunities arise, the other Seekers seen in the original television series such as Acid Storm have been named and given official backgrounds. Unfortunately, not every character that has appeared on screen has made the transition into other forms of media or even product. Because of this fact, there has been no official backgrounds created for these characters."''</ref>

==References==
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[[Category:Generation 1 cartoon Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Seekers]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege Decepticons]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Decepticons]]

Ion Storm

2019-08-18T09:51:03Z

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Ion Storm is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Rainmakers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Ion Storm is the blue one in the middle.]]

One of the formidable [[Rainmaker]]s, '''Ion Storm''' is an electrokinetic, able to personally generate [[Electromagnetic pulse|EMP]]s.

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==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
When a group of [[Autobot]]s (and [[Chip Chase]]) journeyed to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to fetch a [[cosmitron]] for a wounded [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] sent the [[Rainmaker]] trio to make things difficult for our heroes with some [[acid rain]].

Guess what? They failed. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
[[File:Ion_Storm_AskVectorPrime.jpg|thumb|right|No, the other [[Thundercracker (G1)|blue one]]. The ''other'' other [[Dirge (G1)|blue one]]. The '''''other''''' ''other'' other [[Bitstream (G1)|blue one]].]]

The Rainmakers were among the deadliest subordinates of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] on Cybertron and Earth in many [[universal stream]]s. [[Vector Prime]] considered himself fortunate to have never encountered an iteration of Ion Storm. Vector Prime noted, though, that in the case of [[Primax 509.28 Epsilon]], if Ion Storm tried to disable all electronics in an area, then Ion Storm's EMP would affect himself as well. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/13}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:TF-Generations-WFC-S-Rainmaker-3-pack-Ion-Storm.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Seeker Acid Storm''' / '''Seeker Ion Storm''' / '''Seeker Nova Storm''' (multipack, 2019)
**''ID number'': '''WFC-S'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''TBA'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''TBA'''
**''Accessories:'' 6 "HPI [[Null-ray|Null-Ray]] Laser Launchers"
:This ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege (toyline)|Siege]]'' three-pack version of Ion Storm is a redeco of [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]] from the same line, transforming from a heavily Generation 1-inspired robot to a Cybertronian 'tetrajet' based on the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]]' appearance in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" and back; although the jet mode has the robot legs sticking out from the undercarriage. He includes two "HPI Null-Ray Laser Launchers," which can mount on his upper arms, or under the wings in jet mode, and comes with the other Rainmakers, all based on their appearance in "[[Divide and Conquer]]". All three feature battle damage and use the smirkless head sculpt used by Starscream.

:Bizarrely, his stock photos depict [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Thundercracker's]] alt-mode.

:This set was made available at general retail in US Target stores without prior announcement from Hasbro. Release venues elsewhere have yet to be announced.

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==Merchandise==
===The Loyal Subjects===
[[File:TLSRainmakers.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Make it Rain. (Ion Storm is on the right)]]
* '''Rainmakers''' (2013)
**''Accessories:'' Pegged wings, blasters

:''[[The Loyal Subjects]]'' Ion Storm (though he had not received his name yet) is a 3-inch non-transforming vinyl figure designed by Les Schetkoe. He comes in the "Rainmakers" set alongside [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] and [[Nova Storm (G1)|Nova Storm]]. The set comes in a retro box and was released in a limited run of 500 pieces.
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==Notes==
*Despite the many different designations thought up by fans, the yellow and the blue Rainmakers went officially unnamed for over 30 years until a [[2015]] entry of the Facebook edition of [[Ask Vector Prime]] named the yellow one [[Nova Storm (G1)|Nova Storm]] and the blue one Ion Storm.
*The term "rainmakers" was originally used by [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] as a colloquial description of their actions. However, repeated [[Fandom|fan usage]] has turned this into a widely accepted name for the group, which was eventually made official as such by Hasbro's bio for [[Acid Storm (G1)#Universe (2008)|Acid Storm]]'s ''Universe'' toy.

[[Category:Generation 1 cartoon Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Seekers]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege Decepticons]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Decepticons]]

Acid Storm (G1)

2019-08-18T09:50:36Z

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{{disambig2|the Generation 1 Decepticon|the ''Cyberverse'' Decepticon|Acid Storm (Cyberverse)}}
:''Acid Storm is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:G1AcidStorm.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|"What is this 'camouflage' of which you speak?"]]

'''Acid Storm''' is something of an oddity among the Decepticons. He's more than happy to stay buried in the ranks, a largely anonymous soldier among a sea of [[Seeker (body-type)|very similar bots]], rather than try and make a big name for himself. This is somewhat baffling, as his intelligence, data gathering skills, charisma and ability to manipulate localized weather patterns to create [[acid rain]] could possibly propel him up the ranks.

But for whatever reason, he stays in his role as one of the [[Rainmaker]]s rather than striking out on his own.

{{bigquote|I'm a '''green guy'''—that's like literally my '''whole thing'''.|Acid Storm on his place in the world|"[[Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie]]"}}

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==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
[[File:DivideandConquer RainmakersJetModes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0|The original [[triangle formation]].]]
When a group of [[Autobot]]s (and [[Chip Chase]]) journeyed to Cybertron to fetch a [[cosmitron]] for a wounded [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] sent the [[Rainmaker]] trio, including Acid Storm, to make things difficult for our heroes with some [[acid rain]].

Guess what? They failed. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}

====Controverse====
When the Decepticons interceded in the trial of [[Primacron]], [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] and Acid Storm engaged in a bombing run to shake up the Galactic Courts. {{storylink|Controverse}}
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====''Wings Universe''====
[[File:AcidStormfliesintocombat-ACommonFoe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|right]]
{{Wingsnote}}
Acid Storm was at [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s side shortly before the latter ordered a retreat from [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 6}}

Millions of years later, Acid Storm was part of the united Autobot and Decepticon forces that helped repel back the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian]] invasion of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{Storylink|A Common Foe}}

====''Deviations''====
In an alternate timeline where [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] killed [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] in the [[Battle of Autobot City]], Acid Storm followed the newly upgraded [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megascream]] in his attack on [[Autobot]] shuttles leaving [[Earth]]. They were recalled back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] when [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]] ate [[Moonbase One]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: Deviations|Deviations}}
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===''Classics''===
[[File:AtFightsEnd-OverkillDragstripAcidStorm.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|He's in the background, just the way he likes it.]]
After the war officially ended on [[Klo]], Acid Storm was one of the handful of [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]'s Decepticons who scattered to the far corners of the universe. He, [[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]], and [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]] were waiting on a dusty planet when [[Springer (G1)|Springer]]'s rogue team of Autobots attempted to hunt them down. {{storylink|At Fight's End}}
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===2005 IDW continuity===
{{First|[[All His Engines|''The Transformers'' vol. 1 #7]]}}

[[File:IDWTF7-SunstormAcidstorm.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|12782 is the loneliest number.]]
Early in the war, Acid Storm was among the Seekers who led [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]]'s hostage negotiation party to [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]'s base in the [[Rust Sea|Rust Spot]]. {{storylink|Omega's Conundrum}}

Three years after [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]] was defeated on [[Earth]], Acid Storm was among those Decepticons who managed to escape the human homeworld and was now under the command of the (self-proclaimed) Decepticon leader [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]]. However, with the lack of resources, poor morale and Starscream's weak leadership, the Decepticons largely collapsed into anarchy and resorted to cannibalism with not enough [[energon]] to go around. After another pointless patrol, Acid Storm and [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]] dejectedly sat in front of what remained of the ship that carried them to the asteroid that they now called home. {{Storylink|All His Engines}}

[[File:HeartLikeAWheel AcidStormAndBombshell.jpg|thumb|upright=1.7|left|Acid Storm only wears his nice Masterpiece body when he's rooting through garbage.]]
When [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Hot Rod]] finally tracked the Decepticons to their asteroid, Acid Storm was the first one to detect the Autobot craft but did not have time to plan a counter-attack himself. While he was still panicking, [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] used the base defenses to blow the Autobot out of the sky, causing pieces of it to fall on them in the process. The two Decepticons then went to search the wreckage for anything useful, only to find that Hot Rod was still alive, and heavily armed to boot. Acid Storm was quickly taken out of action by a shot to the back. {{Storylink|Heart Like a Wheel}} Once Megatron was finally repaired, he took back leadership from Starscream and held an impassioned speech to Acid Storm and the others that roused their spirits once more. {{storylink|Spotlight: Megatron}}

Later, Acid Storm was one of the many Decepticons in Autobot captivity on Cybertron. {{storylink|The Autonomy Lesson (issue)|The Autonomy Lesson}} He was put to work alongside other [[Decepticon]]s in "waste reclamation". {{storylink|Devisive}} Later, Acid Storm was among a Cybertronian crowd recruited by Starscream to pressure Prowl into revealing one of his secret discoveries below ground on Cybertron. Later underground, they witnessed a [[Titan (group)|Titan]] declare that Starscream was the Cybertronian destined to unite their whole race. He and the other Cybertronians celebrated afterwards with Starscream. {{storylink|Primus: All Good Things|All Good Things}}

[[File:CityonFire DecepticonsRejectStarscream.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|right|They call him Acid cuz' he brings that ''burn''.]]

When Megatron appeared for the first time since the war ended, Acid Storm and the other Decepticons stopped the Autobots from executing him on the spot, then realized that this was their chance to oust the Autobots and return to the good old days. Starscream tried to stop them from rioting with rousing speech about change, but Acid Storm told him to stuff it and walked off with his mates to torch some buildings. {{storylink|City on Fire}} They then marched straight to the Autobot prison, where they made short work of the guards and liberated Megatron from captivity. {{storylink|The Verge}} As Megatron led the Decepticons in a new attempt to conquer Cybertron, Acid Storm participated in the battle with the defending Autobots. {{storylink|Plan for Everything}} The battle ended with a Decepticon defeat, and all Decepticons who wouldn't renounce their faction were banished into the wilderness, including Acid Storm. {{storylink|Shockpoint}}

After the destruction of Iacon, Acid Storm became one of many down-trodden Decepticons living in a ghetto outside of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. When [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] stopped by the ghetto only to be harassed by an angry mob, Acid Storm joined in but tried to stop [[Sparkstalker]] from needlessly angering the Prime. {{storylink|City of Steel (issue)|City of Steel}} Acid Storm was also involved in a second attack on Prime when he visited the ghetto again. {{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}}

[[File:tf44 just looking.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.5|THIS Decepticon veteran just read ONE pamphlet. You won't BELIEVE what happens next!]]
On the streets of Iacon, Acid Storm accepted one of the Camiens' pamphlets on the Word of the Primes. Still, he remained a Decepticon at his core, and attended the rally held by Needlenose and Galvatron for the Decepticon cause. {{storylink|The Transgressors}} As Galvatron addressed Acid Storm and the united listeners, the Decepticon army was officially reborn on Cybertron. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 1: Aphelion|Aphelion}} Acid Storm and the others marched on the Space Bridge and used it to attack the Autobots trapped behind Blackrock's onyx field aboard the ''Ark-7''. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}} As the ''Ark-7'' crashed to Earth, Acid Storm and the Decepticons prepared for their invasion but found themselves facing Autobots {{storylink|Conquerors Part 4: Perihelion|Perihelion}} and the [[People's Liberation Army Mecha Force]]. Acid Storm was freaked out to see the Chinese kill one of his comrades. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 1: Once Upon a Time on Earth|Once Upon a Time on Earth}}

[[File:ItsBeginningToAndBackAgain TeamGalvatronus.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.6]]
Acid Storm met back up with Galvatron's forces on the submerged ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'' and was deployed to defend the ship from Optimus Prime and [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]]'s combined forces. When [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] and [[Victorion]] began to give the enemy an advantage, Galvatron manipulated the [[Enigma of Combination]] source code spread across the entire planet to merge Acid Storm with several other troops into [[Galvatronus (Generations)|Galvatronus]]. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 4: It's Beginning To And Back Again|It's Beginning To And Back Again}} A short time later, Superion's efforts broke Galvatron's control of the Enigma and Galvatronus de-combined. Acid Storm was left dazed and was abandoned as Galvatron and [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] made their escape. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 5: As Above...So Below|As Above...So Below}} He was later seen being taken into custody by the combined Autobot and Decepticon force. {{storylink|White Light}}

[[File:OPAnnual2018 AcidStormNewLines.jpg|thumb|upright=1.0|left|Leave your stupid comments in your pocket!]]
He was evidently eventually released, and selected by [[Thundercracker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Thundercracker]] to play the lead role in his [[Starscream: The Movie (film)|biopic of Starscream]]. However, Acid Storm ended up leaving the project due to dissatisfaction with being painted gray every day and the constant rewrites, forcing Thundercracker to take on the role in his stead; as he left, Acid Storm was frustrated to learn that they could've been digitally recoloring him the whole time. {{storylink|Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie}}

After [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]] had been outed as [[Horri-Bull]]'s killer, Acid Storm led the manhunt for the [[Outlier (group)|outlier]] before he noticed [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]] sneaking around with the Decepticons asking the ex-chancellor to resume leadership of the faction. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 5: Endless Forever|Endless Forever}} After giving a small speech and [[Nemesis (BWII)|Nemesis]] had flown off, Starscream agreed and led the Decepticons away to draw up new plans. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 6: Unforgivable|Unforgivable}} As Starscream outlined his plans to [[Decepticon Vengeance Division|regroup]] with the scattered Decepticon cells, Acid Storm felt compelled to point out that they were holed up in [[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]]'s corpse which Starscream claimed made for a good metaphor. {{storylink|Unstopped and Unstoppable}}

When [[Caminus (planet)|Caminus]] came under attack by [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]], Acid Storm joined the Cybertronian fleet in engaging the Chaos Bringer's Maximal army. {{storylink|Last Stand (Unicron)|Last Stand}}
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===''Transformers: The Ultimate Pop-Up Universe''===
[[File:Pop-UpPowerglideAVP.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8]]
Acid Storm was one of the many Decepticons who pursued the [[AllSpark]] to Earth. He participated in an enormous battle against the Autobots in a human settlement. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Pop-Up Universe|The Ultimate Pop-Up Universe}}
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===''TransTech''===
[[File:Seeker-Shinai-CMW.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66]]
Acid Storm was one of many offworlders in [[Axiom Nexus]]'s Under City. Acid Storm was part of a crowd in [[Seeker-Shinai]] that [[Megatron (Movie)|C-81]] attempted to disperse through intimidation. Unfortunately, all the Seekers present were too stunned to see a "Megatron" in Axiom Nexus to budge. {{storylink|Cybertron's Most Wanted}}
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====Ask Vector Prime====
[[File:Acid StormAVP.jpg|thumb|"No. Layers. Onions have layers. Ogres have layers."]]
[[Vector Prime]] noted that Acid Storm and his Rainmaker colleagues were Shockwave's formidable enforcers on Cybertron and Earth in many universes. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime/07/13}}
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===''Star Trek vs. Transformers''===
[[File:PrimesDirectivePart5-AcidBath.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left]]
When [[World War III]] consumed [[Earth]], the [[Decepticon]]s fled the blighted planet aboard [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], trailing the Autobots aboard [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]. When the two [[Titan (group)|Titans]] reached [[Cygnus Seven]], the Decepticons attacked, the battle sending Maximus hurtling into the planet and causing everyone to fall into [[stasis lock]]. Eventually, the [[Federation]] moved onto Cygnus Seven with a survey team accidentally rousing Maximus's autonomic systems. By random chance, the repair beam first struck [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] who proceeded to revive the other Decepticons and lead an attack on the surface. {{storylink|Prime's Directive, Part Two}} Acid Storm joined his fellow Seekers in attacking the mining colony before the Decepticons were scared away by a [[photon torpedo]] barrage from the [[USS Enterprise|USS ''Enterprise'']]. {{storylink|Prime's Directive, Part One}}

When the Decepticons invaded [[Kronos]], Acid Storm unleashed his acid on [[Spock]] and [[Sulu]]'s [[Crewbot]]s before being shot down by [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]]. When the Decepticons were defeated, Acid Storm was taken into custody by the [[Klingon Empire]]. {{storylink|Prime's Directive, Part Five}}

==Games==
===''Bot Shots Battle Game!''===
[[File:BotShotsGame Cybertropolis.jpg|thumb||300px|"I ''HATE'' to ''RAIN'' on your parade—wait, NO I DON'T! BAHAHAHA!!"]]
Acid Storm and his gang of troublemakers reduced the once-vital city of [[Cybertropolis]] to burning ruins. Through [[you]]r Bot Shot's efforts were he and his gang defeated, and Cybertropolis was allowed to prosper once more. {{storylink|Bot Shots Battle Game!}}

{{Note|Acid Storm is also one of the many random Bot Shots the player can encounter in the game. He can also be purchased in the "Bot Shop"... provided one defeats a Super Bot in the [[Sonic Canyons]] arena first.}}
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===''Transformers Legends''===
Acid Storm was among the Seekers who went on a worldwide rampage, until they were thwarted by the Autobots. {{storylink|Robots in the Sky}} Acid Storm was part of a number of reinforcements who arrived on a battlefield and joined the conflict already in progress. {{storylink|By Land, Sea, or Air}}

Following the restoration of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Acid Storm and [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] attempted to ambush a group of Autobots who were exploring the changes to their world. The pair were promptly captured and sent to a detention facility. {{storylink|The Autonomy Lesson (Legends)|The Autonomy Lesson}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:Battle-Tactics-Acid-Storm.jpg|thumb|upright=2]]
Acid Storm participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He appeared in multiple different bodies:
*''(Generations) Acid Storm'' — This Common character could be recruited by collecting 8 units of Cybermetal.
*''(Universe) Acid Storm'' — This Uncommon character could be recruited by collecting 75 units of Cybermetal, and 36 units of transmetal.
*''(Masterpiece) Acid Storm'' — This Super Rare character could be recruited by collecting 250 units of Cybermetal, 75 units of Transmetal, 50 exclusive cores, and 5 cores of this character. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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===''Transformers: Frontiers''===
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===''Transformers: Bumblebee Overdrive''===
Acid Storm was in command of the third Decepticon base attacked and destroyed by the Autobots during a series of raids. He fought the invader using his air advantage, but was eventually defeated. {{storylink|Transformers: Bumblebee Overdrive}}
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==Toys==
===Universe (2008)===
{{anchor|Universe(2008)}}
[[File:Universe AcidStorm toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The Seeker redeco you weren't expecting.]]
*'''Acid Storm''' (Deluxe Class, [[2008]])
**''Series'': Classic Series
**''Accessories:'' Left & right missile launchers, 2 missiles
:Part of the second wave of [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|2008 ''Universe'']] Deluxe Class toys, Acid Storm is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|Starscream]], transforming into an {{w|F-15 Eagle}} fighter jet, though with a canopy like that of an {{w|F-14 Tomcat}}. He comes with a pair of spring-loaded [[missile]] launchers that can peg via [[5mm post]] onto his biceps, hands, and wings.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/TFUAcidStorm/acidstorm.htm More information on Acid Storm at TFU.info]''
{{ClassicsSeekerMold}}
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===Kre-O===
[[File:KreO-Toy AcidWingKreon.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Can only be combated with an antacid blaster.]]
*'''Acid Wing''' (Kreon Micro-Changer, [[2013]])
**''Collection'': '''2'''
**''Bag number'': '''***** 70'''
**''Accessories'': Logo brick (2013), logo plate (2016 only), 2 clip-on rifles
:As part of the second wave of [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] [[Micro-Changer]]s, '''Acid Wing''' is a Kreon mini-figure with parts to rebuild him into a bright green jet. He shares the same parts and construction as the preview wave's [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]], though his instructions do not have you use the extra jet-mode bricks to assemble a funky two-handed double blaster for his robot mode like you do with Sunstorm. You can anyway, though. We're not here to tell you how to play with your imagination-expanding building-brick-based figures.

: This Collection was still in circulation at "dollar" stores and drug stores up through 2015. They eventually lost the individual-identifying bag codes, but other changes were hidden inside the bag. The 2015 releases replaced the 2x4 logo stand-brick with a new 3x4 logo plate. The Kreon was also given the slight [[retool]]ing to the arm seen in the 2014 Kreons, making the "cuff" parts more sharp-cornered and better adapted to being used as studs. Some of the add-on pieces may also be slightly off-color, possibly due to a change in factories in mid-production.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/Kre-OAcidWing/acidwing.htm More information on Acid Wing at TFU.info]''
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{{Anchor|2016}}
* '''Acid Wing''' (Kreon Micro-Changer, [[2016]])
**''Collection'': '''2'''
**''Accessories'': Logo plate, 2 clip-on rifles

:In 2016, Collection 2 was re-released in a whole new production run for Dollar General stores in the US as part of a large collection of re-released ''Kre-O'' sets. But where most of these releases are nigh-identical to the originals, the re-released Micro-Changer blind-bags use the almost-entirely-retooled 2015 Kreon, with slightly-differently-hued plastics than the originals. (It is possible for some of the add-on pieces to be in the older hues.) Acid Wing's torso [[tampograph]] underwent a slight color change, replacing the dark gray with solid black, though the leg tampos remain dark gray.

:Sadly, this release has no individual-identification code on the bag, requiring you to use the feel-through-the-bag method or just buy blind and hope.
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===Bot Shots===
[[File:Bot_Shots_Acid_Storm_toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"Whoops, you can't play anymore. Game's been canceled on account of '''ME!'''"]]
*'''Nemesis Prime / Megatron / Acid Storm''' (Multi-pack, [[2012]])
**''Series'': '''1'''
**''Number'': '''Super Bot 006'''
***''Fist strength'': '''420'''
***''Blaster strength'': '''905'''
***''Sword strength'': '''285'''
:Part of the first wave of ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' Series 1 three-packs, Acid Storm is a [[redeco]] of [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Starscream]], transforming into a teeny fighter jet very ''very'' vaguely like an [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#F-22 Raptor|F-22 Raptor]], with a [[Autotransformation|spring-loaded automatic transformation]] to robot mode triggered when his nosecone is pressed. He has a "spinner" in his chest that shows his three attack types and power levels. As a "Super Bot", he is cast in translucent green plastic, and has more lopsided stats. He comes with [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Megatron]] and [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Bot Shots|Nemesis Prime]].

:This mold was also redecoed into [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]], [[Slingshot (G1)|Quickslinger]], and [[Fireflight (G1)|Autobot Firestrike]], and was [[retool]]ed into [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Bot Shots|Skywarp]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/BSAcidStorm/acidstorm.htm More information on ''Bot Shots'' Acid Storm at TFU.info]''

===Masterpiece===
[[File:TRU Masterpiece Acid Storm.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|The Seeker redeco you ''really'' weren't expecting.]]
* '''Acid Storm''' (2013)
**''ID number:'' '''MP-01'''
**''Japanese release date:'' '''[[2013]]-[[October 3|10-03]]'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-11A'''
**'''08 OF 30'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 cannons, 2 missile racks, pilot figurine, gun clip, two-piece display stand

:''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Acid Storm is a [[Toys"R"Us]]-[[exclusive]] redeco of [[Starscream (G1)/toys#MP11|MP-11 Starscream]] (himself a heavy retool of [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-3 Starscream]]), but without the coronation gear. He transforms into an F-15 Eagle fighter jet, and features numerous built-in [[gimmick]]s, such as an opening panel at the top-center of the jet, adjustable thrust vectors, a sculpted radar hidden in his nosecone, and an opening canopy. In [[robot mode]], he features missile pods hidden in his chest.

:For accessories, his non-firing cannons are attached to extending armatures so that they don't have to be [[Partformer|removed]] for transformation, but they each have a 5mm post, and can be easily detached via [[ball joint]]. He also comes with two missile racks which peg via 5mm post onto ports on his wings, provided the cannons (which normally mount there in [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]]) are removed. Also included is a pilot figurine that can fit in his cockpit, and he additionally has a clip that is intended to mount underneath the cockpit and hold the [[Megatron (G1)/toys#20th Anniversary/Masterpiece|Megatron gun]] initially included with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#20th Anniversary/Masterpiece|''20th Anniversary'' Optimus Prime/''Masterpiece'' MP-1 Convoy]]. Finally, he comes with a two-piece stand, which has two peg-holes to store two of his weapons, and can be configured for either robot or vehicle mode.

:On the sides of his cockpit, he sports [[tampograph]]ed names of a pilot and a co-pilot: "'''MSGT.''' [Master Sergeant] '''B 'Vicious' Vala'''" (after Hasbro designer Bobby Vala<ref name="vala">[http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobbyvala Bobby Vala] at Linkedin</ref>) and "'''SSGT.''' [Staff Sergeant] '''Etipsone'''" (after graffiti artist Etipsone<ref name="etipsone">[http://studioetipsone.tumblr.com/post/57476728414 Etipsone's Tumblr], explicitly discussing Masterpiece Acid Storm</ref>).

:Acid Storm's [[instructions]] neglect to mention ''numerous'' steps of his transformation, such as the fact that the strut his nosecone is attached to is on a [[slide joint]] that allows it to slide into the cockpit more and help compact his [[kibble]] backpack. It also fails to mention the fact that he has heels hidden in compartments just in front of his thrusters, and that his tail-fin/rear wing assemblies are also on slide joints, allowing them to slide up and allow his toes and heels to both touch the surface at once. To make matters worse, his instructions only tell you how to transform him into vehicle mode... despite the fact that ''he's packaged in vehicle mode.''

:Acid Storm, along with fellow ''Masterpiece'', [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#HasbroMasterpiece|Soundwave]], was first released in limited numbers in conjunction with [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2013. Acid Storm was later made available in [[TakaraTomy]]'s markets as a "[[USA Edition]]" of sorts, still exclusive to Toys"R"Us. While the figure itself was unchanged, the [[packaging]] was altered to change his ID number, among other things. Common to both versions is a designated number marking him as part of the ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' line.

:Acid Storm's original deco would have been significantly different, such as featuring a different pilot and co-pilot ("'''MSGT. [[Bill Rawley|Bill 'Brawlin' Brawley]]'''" and "'''SSGT. Mark 'Tag' Maher'''"), and being far more busy. He would have had numerous additional tampographs, such as a reference to him being part of the "'''924th Rainmakers'''", a reference to a "'''[[Toxitron (disambiguation)|Toxitron]] [[File:Con-g2.png|15px]] Weapons System'''", "'''[[Bring the rain|Bringing the Pain Rain]]'''", and even [[My Little Pony|Rainbow Dash]]'s cutie mark!<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-masterpiece-47/alternate-mp-acid-storm-design-from-boss-fight-studios-at-njcc-178252/ Alternate MP Acid Storm Design From Boss Fight Studios at NJCC 2013, from TFW2005]</ref>

:The original MP-3 version of this mold was redecoed into [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-6 Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|MP-7 Thundercracker]], while the MP-11 version of this mold was also redecoed into [[Sunstorm (G1)#Masterpiece|MP-11S Sunstorm]] and [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|''Transformers'']] [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Masterpiece Thundercracker]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/MPAcidStorm/acidstorm.htm More information on ''Masterpiece'' Acid Storm at TFU.info]''

{{MPSeekerMold}}

===Generations===
====Thrilling 30====
{{anchor|GenLegends}}
[[File:TFGenerations Legends Acid Storm.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The Seeker redeco you were kind of expecting by this point.]]
*'''Acid Storm with Venin''' (Legends Class, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' 2 cannons
:Part of the seventh wave of 2012-onwards ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Legends Class toys, ''[[Thrilling 30]]'' Acid Storm is a [[redeco]] of Legends Class [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Thrilling 30|Starscream]]. He is roughly the same size as a ''[[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]'' Commander Class toy. Based on a [[Guido Guidi]] [[Seeker (body-type)|seeker]] concept for [[IDW Publishing]], Acid Storm transforms from a hybrid F-15/F-22 style jet. He features a fold out front landing gear, [[5 mm post|5mm-compatible]] hands, and back/roof, and has [[C joint|3mm-compatible]] upper arm ports. He comes with two removable cannons that have both 5mm and 3mm pegs.

:Acid Storm is partnered with [[Venin]], a redeco of [[Waspinator (BW)/toys#Generations|Waspinator]], who can transform into a wasp-er, a cicada, a robot with 3mm-compatible hands, and a gun with 5mm handle. He has an [[autotransformation]] feature that folds up his wings when his gun barrel is extended.

:This mold was also used to make ''Generations [[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#CWLegends|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#CWLegends|Skywarp]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Decepticon/GenAcidStorm/acidstorm.htm More information on ''Generations'' Acid Storm at TFU.info]''
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====Alt-Modes====
[[File:Alt-Modes AcidStorm.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Ahhh! My body!]]
*'''Acid Storm''' (Alt-Modes, 2016)

:A redeco of ''[[Alt-Modes]]'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Alt-Modes|Starscream]], Acid Storm is a super deformed toy whose body transforms into a jet when the Decepticon faction symbol on his head is flipped. He was [[Blindpacking|blind-boxed]] and available in one of the first three cases of the toyline.

:This mold was also used to make ''Alt-Modes'' [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Alt-Modes|Thundercracker]], [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Alt-Modes|Skywarp]], and [[Sunstorm (G1)#Alt-Modes|Sunstorm]], and would have been retooled into [[Dirge (G1)/toys#Alt-Modes|Dirge]].
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====War for Cybertron: Siege====
[[File:TF-Generations-WFC-S-Rainmaker-3-pack-Acid-Storm.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Now comes in lime.]]
*'''Seeker Acid Storm''' / '''Seeker Ion Storm''' / '''Seeker Nova Storm''' (multipack, 2019)
**''ID number'': '''WFC-S'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''TBA'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''TBA'''
**''Accessories:'' 6 "HPI [[Null-ray|Null-Ray]] Laser Launchers"
:This ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege (toyline)|Siege]]'' three-pack version of Acid Storm is a redeco of [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]] from the same line, transforming from a heavily Generation 1-inspired robot to a Cybertronian 'tetrajet' based on the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]]' appearance in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" and back; although the jet mode has the robot legs sticking out from the undercarriage. He includes two "HPI Null-Ray Laser Launchers," which can mount on his upper arms, or under the wings in jet mode, and comes with the other Rainmakers, all based on their appearance in "[[Divide and Conquer]]". All three feature battle damage and use the smirkless head sculpt used by Starscream.

:This set was made available at general retail in US Target stores without prior announcement from Hasbro. Release venues elsewhere have yet to be announced.

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==Merchandise==
===The Loyal Subjects===
[[File:TLSRainmakers.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Make it Rain.]]
* '''Rainmakers''' (2013)
**''Accessories:'' Pegged wings, blasters
:''[[The Loyal Subjects]]'' Acid Storm is a 3-inch non-transforming vinyl figure designed by Les Schetkoe. He comes in the "Rainmakers" set alongside unnamed [[Ion Storm|blue]] and [[Nova Storm (G1)|yellow Seekers]]. The set comes in a retro box and was released in a limited run of 500 pieces.
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===Tiny Titans===
[[File:TinyTitans-Series6-Acid_Storm.jpg|right|thumb]]
*'''Acid Storm''' (Tiny Titans, 2016)
**''Series'': '''6'''
**''Number'': '''3/12'''

: Part of the sixth and final assortment of ''[[Tiny Titans]]'' [[blindpacking|blindpacks]], this version of Acid Storm is a very small, soft-plastic figure of him in robot mode... and is an entirely different mold from normal ''Tiny Titans'' [[Starscream (G1)/merchandise#Tiny Titans|Starscream]]. Amazing!

: He includes a collectible card that renders him in the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)|2015 ''Robots in Disguise'']] styling. The card includes a scan-badge for the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (mobile game)|''Robots in Disguise'' mobile game]], which unlocks a random amount of Energon "currency" and a randomized bonus power-up item.
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==Notes==
[[File:DivideAndConquer-AcidStormMonitorGreyDetails.jpg|frame]]
*Acid Storm isn't solid green in ''every'' shot of "Divide and Conquer"—in the monitor shot he first appears in, he has grey intakes and a green-grey upper chest that matches his helmet. Oddly enough, the intakes are one of the areas that were left the basic green on his ''Universe'' toy.
*Although explicitly based on the green Rainmaker from "Divide and Conquer", Acid Storm's near-fluorescent green in the cartoon was specifically toned down to fit better into the quasi-realism of the 2008 ''Universe'' toyline.
*Acid Storm's basic camo pattern was designed by [[Aaron Archer]], a relatively rare occurrence for the time given Archer's high hierarchical status within Hasbro. The specifics of Acid Storm's ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' deco were then fleshed out and finalized by designer [[Bill Rawley]].
*According to [[Hasbro]]'s [[BotCon 2008]] panel, Acid Storm was originally to be named '''Rainmaker''', then '''Acid Rain''', but those names didn't clear [[Trademark|legal]].
*Acid Storm's "hyperion3 cannon" is based on one of the email addresses of ''Transformers'' fan [[Matthew Karpowich]], aka "[[User:Monzo|Monzo]]", much as Acid Storm's bio itself is based in part on him (notably the data-gathering aspect). This is the second ''Universe'' toy to shout-out to him, the first being [[Onslaught (G1)#Universe (2008)|Onslaught]].
*Acid Wing's instruction sheet spells his name as a single word, '''Acidwing'''. We go with what's on the bag-back, the two-word version.
*The ''[[Transformers: Kre-O Character Encyclopedia|Kre-O Character Encyclopedia]]'' bizarrely categorizes Acid Wing as a [[Predacon (Prime)|Predacon]]. No, we don't know either.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Acid Storm''' (アシッドストーム ''Ashido Sutōmu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Suānbào''' (Taiwan, 酸暴, "Acid Storm"), '''Liúsuānyǔ''' (China, 硫酸雨, "Sulfuric Acid Rain")

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Bot Shots Decepticons]]
[[Category:Classics Decepticons]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Seekers]]
[[Category:Generation 1 cartoon Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generations]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Decepticons]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Decepticons]]
[[Category:Kre-O Decepticons]]
[[Category:Kreons]]
[[Category:Masterpiece]]
[[Category:Toys "R" Us exclusives]]
[[Category:TransTech Decepticons]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege Decepticons]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Decepticons]]

Rainmaker

2019-08-18T09:50:02Z

Jeddostotle7: correcting error saying Starscream and Skywarp have the same head, when they actually have different heads (Starscream's is neutral while Skywarp's is slightly sneering)

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''The Rainmakers are a [[Decepticon]] [[subgroup]] from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Rainmakers.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|All the colors of the rainbow, except for one...]]
The Decepticons known colloquially as the '''Rainmakers''' are part of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s [[Cybertron Guard|forces]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Each one is a [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] with a bright, single-color paint job. (The green member, [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]], did find a more exciting palette.) They retain their original Cybertronic "tetrajet" alternate modes.

As their name implies, they can make rain. [[Acid rain|''Acid'' rain]].

The group consists of:
*[[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]]
*[[Ion Storm]]
*[[Nova Storm (G1)|Nova Storm]]

==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
[[File:DivideAndConquer-RainmakersMonitorGreyDetails.jpg|thumb|Just For Jets™ gets rid of grey in one easy shot change!]]
When a group of [[Autobot]]s and [[Chip Chase]] journeyed to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to fetch a [[cosmitron]] for a wounded [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], Megatron sent the trio to make things difficult for our heroes with a dose of [[acid rain]].

Guess what? They failed. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}
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===Ask Vector Prime===
[[Vector Prime]] noted that the Rainmakers were among the deadliest subordinates of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] on Cybertron and [[Earth]] in many [[universal stream]]s, including [[Primax 509.28 Epsilon]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/13}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:TF-Generations-WFC-S-Rainmaker-3-pack.jpg|upright=2|thumb]]
*'''Seeker Acid Storm''' / '''Seeker Ion Storm''' / '''Seeker Nova Storm''' (multipack, 2019)
**''ID number'': '''WFC-S'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''TBA'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''TBA'''
**''Accessories:'' 6 "HPI [[Null-ray|Null-Ray]] Laser Launchers"
:Released as a 3-pack, the Rainmakers are a redeco of the ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege (toyline)|Siege]]'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]] from the same line, transforming from a heavily Generation 1-inspired robot to a Cybertronian 'tetrajet' based on the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]]' appearance in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" and back; although the jet mode has the robot legs sticking out from the undercarriage. Each includes two "HPI Null-Ray Laser Launchers," which can mount on their upper arms, or under the wings in jet mode, All three feature battle damage and use the smirkless head sculpt used by Starscream.

:This set was made available at general retail in US Target stores without prior announcement from Hasbro. Release venues elsewhere have yet to be announced.

{{-}}

==Merchandise==
===The Loyal Subjects===
[[File:TLSRainmakers.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Make it Rain.]]
*'''Rainmakers''' (2013)
**''Accessories:'' Pegged wings, blasters

:''[[The Loyal Subjects]]'' Rainmakers are a set of three 3-inch non-transforming vinyl figures designed by Les Schetkoe. The set includes [[Acid Storm (G1)#The Loyal Subjects|Acid Storm]] and the two then yet to be named Rainmakers, and comes in a retro box with a limited run of 500 pieces.
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==Notes==
*The term "rainmakers" (or perhaps "rain makers") was originally used by [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] as a colloquial description of their actions. However, repeated [[Fandom|fan usage]] has turned this into a widely accepted name for the group, which was eventually [[Canonizing|made official]] as such by Hasbro's 2008 toy bio for Acid Storm.
*Despite the many different designations thought up by fans, the yellow and the blue Rainmakers went officially unnamed for over 30 years until a 2015 entry of the Facebook edition of [[Ask Vector Prime]] (contributed by [[Brandy Dixon]], [[Betsy Blackie]], and [[Jim Sorenson]]) named the yellow one [[Nova Storm (G1)|Nova Storm]] and the blue one [[Ion Storm]].
*A common piece of [[fanon]] identified the all-yellow Rainmaker as the partially yellow [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. However, even taking into consideration the haphazard coloring typically given to generic Seekers, chances were in favour of their not being the same guy. After being asked the question during the August 2010 Q&A, Hasbro confirmed that the yellow Rainmaker was not Sunstorm, but did not give him a name at that time.<ref>[http://www.asmzine.com/geekly-rewind/2010/07/26/hasbro-transformers-qa-july-2010-answers August 2010 Q&A on ASMzine:] ''"When the right opportunities arise, the other Seekers seen in the original television series such as Acid Storm have been named and given official backgrounds. Unfortunately, not every character that has appeared on screen has made the transition into other forms of media or even product. Because of this fact, there has been no official backgrounds created for these characters."''</ref>
*Further confusion arose during [[BotCon 2013]], when figures of Sunstorm and his newly named companions from "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]", [[Bitstream (G1)|Bitstream]] and [[Hotlink (G1)|Hotlink]], were released in an exclusive three pack titled "Rainmakers". However, [[Fun Publications]] employees subsequently confirmed that the pack's title was in error, and that there was no intention to link the "welcoming committee" to the trio from "[[Divide and Conquer]]".
*The acid rain only affected the Autobots. Chip Chase was utterly unharmed. Make of ''that'' what you will.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:Generation 1 subgroups]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Seekers]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege subgroups]]
[[Category:Wings Universe subgroups]]

Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)

2018-11-30T22:07:34Z

Jeddostotle7: /* 1993 */

{{nav-G2}}
Two years after the [[The Transformers (toyline)|original ''Transformers'' toy line]] petered out in the US, [[Hasbro]] revamped the series with 1993's '''''Transformers: Generation 2''''', the first "reboot" of the franchise. With a mix of classic popular characters, vintage toys, all-new [[gimmick]]-laden molds, and bodacious 90s color schemes, Hasbro hoped to recapture some of the financial success that had been lost with age and competition.

''Generation 2'' saw more-or-less simultaneous release in the US and European markets, but Japan would not start the line (or even have any ''Transformers'' product at all on shelves, for that matter) until 1995.

Unfortunately, the revamping failed to give the franchise the jumpstart it needed, despite having created several benchmarks that ''Transformers'' lines still follow to this day. In a desperate bid to save ''Transformers'' from ending for good, Hasbro chose to end the line in its third year, and [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|go in a completely new direction]]...

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==Overview==
[[File:G2Prime toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|Optimus Prime's first G2 toy, essentially a re-release of the original toy but with a new [[soundbox]] and weapons.]]
Initially, the line heavily featured re-releases of several [[The Transformers (toyline)|"Generation 1" toys]] (as the pre-''Generation 2'' series quickly became known to the [[fandom]]), with tweaked decos and new accessories, alongside several molds that had been recently released as part of the European-market line. But after that initial year, all-new product quickly outnumbered reworked old product, and the line pushed its design and engineering to levels far beyond the original series.

''Generation 2'' also sought to follow changing trends in the toy market in a broader sense. It put a much larger focus on keeping "main" characters (particularly [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]) readily available on shelves with a variety of toys at different price points, as most of the successful competing toy lines of the '90s were focused on a core cast of characters, rather than the massive ever-changing casts of the '80s.

Unfortunately, the series debuted to lackluster sales, despite featuring many fan-favorite toys that hadn't been available for years. Some fans blamed [[Neon|color selections]], but it seems ''far'' more likely that it was simply a case of bad timing combined with too much product "your older brother has in the attic". Even the later new molds didn't help much, nor the little changes made as the line went on, such as removing [[insignia|faction symbols]] from the toys (supposedly kids didn't quite "get" them at the time, possibly due to the mix of symbols in the early line), or packaging frippery like the "[[Real Action Pop-Ups 3-D Transformer Trading Card]]"s that came with larger later toys.

[[File:G2toy laser optimus prime.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.5|Laser Rod Optimus Prime, the last Optimus toy of the line, all-new with a metric truckload of gimmicks.]]
Kids simply weren't into robots that turned into "real" vehicles at the time, it seems, and the "older nostalgic" market (which can rarely sustain a [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|major toy brand]] at nationwide retail even today) was downright microscopic at the time. Being up against the then-new ''[[Saban Entertainment|Mighty Morphin Power Rangers]]'', the still-popular ''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles'' (whose overall garish color schemes give lie to the idea that colors are what sank ''Generation 2''), and the ever-growing popularity of home video game consoles that sucked kids away from ''all'' toys added to the line's woes. The lack of a proper, network-backed "advertainment" cartoon was also a factor, as the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (cartoon)|repackaged '80s-series episodes branded as "''Generation 2"]] didn't advertise the majority of the actual toyline, and was stuck in syndication hell to boot where ''Power Rangers'' and ''Ninja Turtles'' got steady network play. Ironic, given a strong advertising cartoon was a major contributor to the success of the original ''Transformers'' series over its [[GoBots|biggest competitor]].

''Generation 2'' was ended after about two and a half years, with several new products trapped in development limbo. A handful saw release Europe, Australia, and New Zealand (namely the [[Power Master]]s), but most of those canceled new molds stayed unreleased for years.

As Hasbro had recently acquired former competitor [[Kenner]], and the ''Transformers'' franchise was facing extinction, the decision was made to shift the boys'-toy production to Kenner and take ''Transformers'' in a wildly different direction to hopefully revitalize the seemingly-tired concept... ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]''.
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==Hasbro US line==
===1993===
The line started off fairly modest, at least by production standards. A mix of classic products in new decos, sometimes with new accessories, and all-new new molds that had seen developed for release the same year as part of the European "Generation 1" line (which had not actually ended yet), with a large completely new mold in the form of huge tank Megatron. This series started using [[light-piping]] for the robot eyes, a minor gimmick that would become a standard in ''Transformers'' toys for a good two decades following.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Mini Vehicle|Mini-Cars]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Beachcomber (G1)#Generation 2|Beachcomber]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Bumblebee]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Hubcap (G1)#Generation 2|Hubcap]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Seaspray (G1)#Generation 2|Seaspray]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Axelerator|Small Cars]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Rapido#Toys|Rapido]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Skram (G2)#Toys|Skram]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Turbofire#Toys|Turbofire]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Windbreaker#Toys|Windbreaker]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Skyscorcher|Small Jets]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Afterburner (G2)#Toys|Afterburner]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Eagle Eye (G2)#Toys|Eagle Eye]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Terradive (G2)#Toys|Terradive]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Windrazor (G2)#Toys|Windrazor]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Bonecrusher (G1)#Generation 2|Bonecrusher]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Hook (G1)#Generation 2|Hook]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Long Haul (G1)#Generation 2|Long Haul]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Mixmaster (G1)#Generation 2|Mixmaster]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Scavenger (G1)#Generation 2|Scavenger]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Scrapper (G1)#Generation 2|Scrapper]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:G2 Gobots toy.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|Color Changer Gobots]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Color Changer]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Deluge (G2)#Toys|Deluge]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Drench (G2)#Toys|Drench]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Gobots#Toys|Gobots]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Jetstorm (G2)#Toys|Jetstorm]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Autobot Cars|Cars]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Inferno (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Inferno]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Jazz (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Jazz]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Sideswipe]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Grimlock]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Slag (G1)#Generation 2|Slag]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Snarl (G1)#Generation 2|Snarl]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Decepticon Planes|Jets]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Ramjet (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Ramjet]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Starscream (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Starscream]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Leaders'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Watches'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Autobot (G2)#Toys|Autobot]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Galvatron (G1)/toys#Merchandise|Galvatron]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Scorpia (G2)#Toys|Scorpia]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Superion (G1)#Watch|Superion]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/merchandise#Watch|Ultra Magnus]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{-}}

===1994===
Come the line's second year, designs were getting more ambitious. While redecoes of "[[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]" style combiners filled out the lower price-point ranks, completely new molds were being worked on with extensive [[gimmick]]s.

Two nigh-line-wide changes to how the toys were being produced were made this year, both of which would become standards in ''Transformers'' from here on out: enhanced robot mode [[articulation]], and the move away from customer-applied [[sticker]]s in favor of factory-applied [[tampograph]]s. Even the re-used "Generation 1" molds for this year lost their sticker sheets.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Air Raid (G1)#Generation 2|Air Raid]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Fireflight (G1)#Generation 2|Fireflight]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Silverbolt (G1)#Generation 2|Silverbolt]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)#Generation 2|Skydive]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Slingshot (G1)#Generation 2|Slingshot]]}}
</ul class="iconlist">
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Blast Off (G1)#Generation 2|Blast Off]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Brawl (G1)#Generation 2|Brawl]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Onslaught (G1)#Generation 2|Onslaught]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Swindle (G1)#Generation 2|Swindle]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Vortex (G1)#Generation 2|Vortex]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Rotor Force]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Leadfoot (G2)#Toys|Leadfoot]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Manta Ray (G2)#Toys|Manta Ray]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Powerdive#Toys|Powerdive]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Ransack (G2)#Toys|Ransack]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Laser Rod]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Electro#Toys|Electro]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Jolt (G2)#Toys|Jolt]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Sizzle (G2)#Toys|Sizzle]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Volt#Toys|Volt]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=3|[[File:G2 Jolt toy.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|Laser Rod Jolt]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Hero (G2)|Heroes]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Hero|Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#HeroOptimusPrime|Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Others'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Dreadwing (G2)#Toys|Dreadwing]] with [[Smokescreen (G2)#Toys|Smokescreen]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[BotCon 1994]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Breakdown (G1)#Generation 2|Breakdown]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]]''' (''canceled'')
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Dead End (G1)#Generation 2|Dead End]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Drag Strip (G1)#Generation 2|Drag Strip]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Motormaster (G1)#Generation 2|Motormaster]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Wildrider (G1)#Generation 2|Wildrider]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]]''' (''canceled'')
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Blades (G1)#Generation 2|Blades]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[First Aid (G1)#Generation 2|First Aid]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Groove (G1)#Generation 2|Groove]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Hot Spot (G1)#Generation 2|Hot Spot]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Streetwise (G1)#Generation 2|Streetwise]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{-}}

===1995===
For the 1995 releases, Hasbro quietly dropped the ''Generation 2'' moniker from the toys' packaging. Gone were '80s-toy redecoes, everything this year was a brand-new mold... or a redeco of a brand-new mold introduced this year. In fact, 1995 was the first year that ''Transformers'' really got into extensive same-line redecos as a budgetary procedure, as well as using "major" character names on toys of dubious semblance to their namesakes in order to retain [[Trademark]] on them. The enhanced articulation of the prior year's Laser Rods got refined further with the Cyberjets' extensive use of [[ball joint]]s, which would become ''the'' standard for ''Transformers'' toys up to the present day.

Unfortunately, this was also the final year of ''Generation 2'', and a great many items advertised in toy catalogs ended up unreleased. Some in-package samples have made it out. Despite most of this unreleased product being redecoes of existing molds, their scarcity means that all of them still demand big bucks on the secondary market, ''especially'' the few new molds.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]] Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Blowout#Toys|Blowout]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Double Clutch (G2)#Toys|Double Clutch]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Firecracker#Toys|Firecracker]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Gearhead#Toys|Gearhead]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[High Beam#Toys|High Beam]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Motormouth#Toys|Motormouth]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Go-Bots Wave 2'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Go-Bot|Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#GobotOptimusPrime|Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Go-Bots Wave 3'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Frenzy (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Frenzy]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Go-Bot|Bumblebee]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Ironhide]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Mirage]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Go-Bot|Sideswipe]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Soundwave]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Go-Bots Wave 4''' (''canceled'')
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Hound (G1)/toys#G2Gobot|Hound]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Rumble (G1)#Generation 2|Rumble]]}}
*"[[Daytonus#Toys|GTP Racer]]"
*"[[Prowl (RID)#Prowl2|911 Police Car]]"
*"[[Side Burn (RID)#Spychanger|Black Viper]]"
*Unidentified purple car
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=4|[[File:HooliganG2-toy.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|Cyberjet Hooligan]][[File:G2toy ATB megs and screamer.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|ATB Megatron and Starscream]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Cyberjet]]s Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Hooligan (G2)#Toys|Hooligan]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Skyjack (G2)#Toys|Skyjack]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Space Case (G2)#Toys|Space Case]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Cyberjets Wave 2'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Air Raid (G1)#Cyberjet|Air Raid]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Jetfire (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Jetfire]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Strafe (G1)#Generation 2|Strafe]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Laser Cycle]]s Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Road Pig (G2)#Toys|Road Pig]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Road Rocket (G2)#Toys|Road Rocket]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Laser Cycles Wave 2''' (''canceled'')
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Jazz (G1)/toys#LaserCycle|Jazz]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#LaserCycle|Soundwave]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Auto Roller]]s Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Dirtbag#Toys|Dirtbag]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Roadblock (G2)#Toys|Roadblock]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Auto Rollers Wave 2''' (''canceled'')
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#G2General|General Optimus Prime]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Hound (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Sgt. Hound]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Auto Rollers Wave 3''' (''canceled'')
*[[Autolauncher#Toys|Unknown APC]]
*[[Autojetter#Toys|Unknown jet]]
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Leaders'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#ATB|Megatron]] with [[Starscream (G1)/toys#ATB|Starscream]] (limited release)}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#LaserOptimusPrime|Laser Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[BotCon 1995]] exclusives'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Nightracer (G2)#Toys|Nightracer]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Watches'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Blast Off (G1)#Generation 2 2|Blast Off]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/merchandise#Generation 2|Megatron]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Hero (G2)|Combat Heroes]]''' (''canceled'')
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys|Combat Hero Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Combat Hero Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Other canceled stuff'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Greasepit (G2)|Greasepit]] and the [[Go-Bots Racing Rig]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{Note|ATB Megatron with Starscream '''was''' released at retail, but only to test markets in Ohio in '''very''' limited quantities. The toy was never available as a wide release, so it's effectively as rare as the unreleased stuff.}}
{{--}}

==Hasbro European line==
The whole European ''Generation 2'' situation is a little weird.

[[The Transformers (European toyline)|''Transformers'']] didn't end in most European markets when the US line did, with roughly two years of product released after the franchise (temporarily) closed shop in the US. The normal, un-sublined ''Transformers'' series continued in 1993, but shared many new molds with the 1993 US ''Generation 2'' line (albeit in different colors, sometimes as different characters), as well as the new "G2" Autobot and Decepticon faction symbols. ''Technically'', these releases are still "Generation 1".

In 1994, Hasbro UK and Hasbro International followed Hasbro US's lead and changed the branding to the new ''Generation 2'' name, and re-released much of the 1993 product as well as "new" items from the US line. This, mixed with the slow spread of information online at the time, has led many fans to overall consider ''all'' of the new-sigil 1993 product to be "Generation 2".

Which is fair enough, but this list will ''only'' contain the product released under the actual ''Generation 2'' banner.

Most toys were available in two different [[multilingual packaging]] [[variant]]s: English/Spanish/Portuguese and French/Dutch/German. In addition, [[GiG]] distributed figures in Italian-only packaging.

===1994===
The overwhelming bulk of this year's product was made up of repackaged re-releases of 1993 product from both the European and American toylines, the latter being "new" to most European markets, and newly-developed toys released concurrently with the American market.

This year's releases started the trend of the European toys having extremely condensed on-package [[bio]]s, as some specs only had the figure's name, function, and motto. Many quotes were changed from their previous releases as well.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Sparkabot]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Fizzle#Generation 2|Blaze]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Flamefeather (G1)#Generation 2|Flamefeather]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Sizzle (G1)#Generation 2|Sizzle]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Sparkstalker#Generation 2|Sparkstalker]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Axelerator]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Turbofire#Toys|Hotrider]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Rapido#Toys|Rapido]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Skram (G2)#Toys|Skram]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Windbreaker#Toys|Zap]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Skyscorcher]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Eagle Eye (G2)#Toys|Hawk]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Afterburner (G2)#Toys|Snipe]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Terradive (G2)#Toys|Terradive]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Windrazor (G2)#Toys|Tornado]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Rotor Force|Rotorbots]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Powerdive#Toys|Blade]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Ransack (G2)#Toys|Blitz]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Leadfoot (G2)#Toys|Hot Foot]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Manta Ray (G2)#Toys|Piranha]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:Blaze-toy.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|Sparkabot Blaze]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Aquaspeeder]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Aquafend#Toys|Aquafend]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Deluge (G1)#Toys|Deluge]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Jetstorm (G1)#Toys|Jetstorm]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Speedstream#Toys|Speedstream]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Stormtrooper (G1)|Stormtroopers]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Aquablast#Toys|Aquablast]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Drench (G1)#Toys|Drench]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Hydradread#Toys|Hydradread]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Rage (G1)#Toys|Rage]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Lightformer]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Deftwing#Toys|Deftwing]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Ironfist (G1)#Toys|Ironfist]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Trakkon]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Calcar#Toys|Calcar]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Fearswoop (G1)#Toys|Fearswoop]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Laser Rod|Illuminators]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Electro#Toys|Electro]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Sizzle (G2)#Toys|Fireball]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Jolt (G2)#Toys|Hotrod]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Volt#Toys|Volt]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Autobot Cars|Heroics]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Jazz (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Jazz]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Inferno (G1)#Generation 2|Inferno]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Sideswipe]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Decepticon Planes|Skyraiders]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Ramjet (G1)#Generation 2|Ramjet]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Starscream (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Starscream]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Grimlock]] (blue deco only)}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Slag (G1)#Generation 2|Slag]] (green deco only)}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Snarl (G1)#Generation 2|Snarl]] (red deco only)}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:G2-toy Hydradread.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|Stormtrooper Hydradread]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Hero (G2)|Heroes]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Archforce#Toys|Archforce]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Sureshot (G2)#Toys|Sureshot]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Obliterator]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Clench (G1)#Toys|Colossus]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Pyro (G1)#Toys|Spark]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Leaders'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Optimus Prime]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Dreadwing (G2)#Toys|Stealth Assault]] with "[[Smokescreen (G2)#Toys|robot/jet fighter]]"}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|}
{{-}}

===1995===
Come the line's second year, it fell pretty much into line with the US series, with only a single exclusive sub-group.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Go-Bot (G2)|Gobots]] Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Blowout#Toys|Blowout]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Double Clutch (G2)#Toys|Double Clutch]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Firecracker#Toys|Firecracker]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Gearhead#Toys|Gearhead]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[High Beam#Toys|High Beam]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Motormouth#Toys|Motormouth]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Gobots Wave 2'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Frenzy (G1)#Generation 2|Frenzy]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Go-Bot|Bumblebee]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Ironhide]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Mirage (G1)#Generation 2|Mirage]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Go-Bot|Sideswipe]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Soundwave]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Cyberjet|Mini-Jets]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Hooligan (G2)#Toys|Hooligan]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Skyjack (G2)#Toys|Skyjack]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Space Case (G2)#Toys|Space Case]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Power Master|Powermasters]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Bulletbike (G2)#Toys|Bulletbike]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Ironhide (G1)/toys#PowerMaster|Ironhide]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Meanstreak#Toys|Meanstreak]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Staxx#Toys|Staxx]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:G2-toy Meanstreak.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Powermaster Meanstreak]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Laser Cycle|Lasercycles]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Road Pig (G2)#Toys|Road Pig]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Road Rocket (G2)#Toys|Road Rocket]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Auto Roller]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Dirtbag#Toys|Dirtbag]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Roadblock (G2)#Toys|Roadblock]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Leader'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#LaserOptimusPrime|Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{--}}

==Takara ''G-2'' line==
[[File:G2_Japanese_Logo.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5]]
'''''Transformers: G-2''''' was [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s first foray back into Transformers after ending the line in [[1992]] with ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (franchise)|Operation Combination]]''. Available for only the latter half of [[1995]], ''G-2'' did not include any of the Generation 1 molds (including the later European ones) which were in the American and European lines, only the more poseable toys newly created for the line. Each release came with a [[Transformers: G-2 (pack-in manga)|pack-in comic]].

Virtually none of the toys in ''G-2'' have significant differences from the Hasbro releases outside of packaging. Only the [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bot]]s have deco changes. The [[Cyberjet]]s each came with an extra [[sticker]] sheet to customize the toys, but are otherwise identical. While prototypes for "enhanced" Cyberjets with add-on armor have since surfaced, they never made it beyond prototype.

''G-2'' was not a major financial success for Takara. As a result, the planned spin-off ''[[Block Town]]'' was canceled, and there was another short ''Transformers'' drought in Japan until the introduction of ''[[Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers|Beast Wars]]'' in [[1997]].
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{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bots]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Go-Bot|Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Soundwave]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#GobotOptimusPrime|Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Cyberjet]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Aero Raid#Toys|Aero Raid]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Hooligan (G2)#Toys|Hooligan]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Jetfire (G1)#Generation 2|Jetfire]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Skyjack (G2)#Toys|Skyjack]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Space Case (G2)#Toys|Space Case]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Strafe (G2)#Toys|Strafe]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Laser Cycle]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Road Pig (G2)#Toys|Road Big]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Road Rocket (G2)#Toys|Road Rocket]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Laser Rod]]s'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Volt#Toys|Autovolt]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Electro#Toys|Effectro]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Sizzle (G2)#Toys|Firebot]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Jolt (G2)#Toys|Hot Row]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:AeroRaid-stickers.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|Aero Raid's extra stickers]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Hero (G2)|Heroes]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Hero|Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#HeroOptimusPrime|Convoy]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Aerial Bombing Officer'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Dreadwing (G2)#Toys|Dreadwing]] & [[Smokescreen (G2)#Toys|Smokescreen]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Supreme Commander'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#LaserOptimusPrime|Battle Convoy]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{-}}

==Massive amounts of concept stuff==
[[File:G2SludgeBoxart.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|I got my spine, I got my Orange Sludge.]]
[[File:UnmadeVideoCameraMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Camcorder Megatron?]]

In the years since ''Generation 2'' ended, numerous ultimately-unused concepts have come to light, showing what might have been were more molds available, were budgets bigger, ''et cetera''. These range from redecoes of old toys to all-new mold prototypes, and a few real oddities.

;Redecoes
*Orange [[:File:G2SludgeBoxart.jpg|Sludge]], bright green [[:File:Swoop iconic.jpg|Swoop]], and a delightfully tiger-striped version of [[:File:G2GrimlockArtwork.jpg|Grimlock]].
*"[[Sandstorm (G2)|Sandstorm]]", a desert-themed redeco of Ramjet.
*"Black death Starscream" [[:File:G2BlackDeathStarscreamMockup.jpg|art mockups]] and [[:File:G2BlackDeathStarscreamProductionColor.jpg|production color sample]].
*Hand-painted samples of a jungle-themed [[:File:G2SSJungleprotojet.jpg|Starscream]] and a blue sky-themed [[:File:WhizBangNavyRamjetRedeco.jpg|Ramjet]], both of whom could be new characters for all we know.
*A green and purple [[:File:G2MirageVaultArt.jpg|Mirage]] and a yellow and turquoise [[:File:UnmadeG2SideswipeMockup.jpg|Sideswipe]].
*Recolored card art of [[Power Master]] [[Ironhide (G1)#PowerMaster|Ironhide]], in yellow and blue, attached to packaging mock-ups bearing the names "Belzone", "Light Speed", and "[[Pothole]]".

;Toy prototypes
*A resin prototype of a [[Unproduced G.I. Joe Transformer|transforming six-wheeled APC]] capable of carrying a [[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]] figure.
*A [[customizing|kitbashed/hand-painted]] mock-up of the large [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Megatron tank mold]] as a video camcorder.
*Takara had prototypes of the Cyberjet molds with add-on armor pieces on display at a toy convention, but those clearly never happened.

;???
*The [[Solarbot]], an item mentioned on some late-series card samples but otherwise we know literally nothing about what it was supposed to be.
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==Post-''Generation 2'' releases==
As time has passed and fandom attitudes have changed, the once-often-poo-pooed ''Generation 2'' line has become a go-to source for a more quirky nostalgia-grab, particularly as a source for [[redeco]] color schemes for modern toys, though some do end up as new-character [[homage]]s.

;Hasbro
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|''Universe'' (2003)]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Space_Case (G2)#Universe (2003)|Space Case]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|''Universe'' (2008)]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|"Aerial Rivals" ([[Air Raid (G1)#Universe (2008)|Air Raid]], [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)#Universe (2008)|Skydive]])}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Inferno (G1)#Universe (2008)|Inferno]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Skyjack (G2)#Universe (2008)|Skyfall]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|''Transformers'' (2010)]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[Transformers: Generations| Generations]]'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Dreadwing (G2)#Generations|Dreadwing]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Powerdive#Generations|Powerdive]]}}
{{Bp-a2|"Ultimate Gift Set" ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#UltimateGiftSet|Combat Hero Optimus Prime]], [[Jazz (G1)/toys#UltimateGiftSet|Autobot Jazz]])}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=3|[[File:Generations-Combiner-Wars-Generation-2-Superion.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|''Combiner Wars'' shared-exclusive Superion.]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] / [[BigBadToyStore]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Bruticus (G1)#WFC|Bruticus]] ([[Blast Off (G1)#FOCgiftset|Blast Off]], [[Brawl (G1)#G22012|Brawl]], [[Onslaught (G1)#G2BoxSet|Onslaught]], [[Swindle (G1)#Amazon|Swindle]], [[Vortex (G1)#FOCgiftset|Vortex]])}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]''''' (exclusives)
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Bruticus (G1)#CombinerWarsG2|Bruticus]] ([[Blast Off (G1)#G2BruticusSet|Blast Off]], [[Brawl (G1)#G2BruticusSet|Brawl]], [[Onslaught (G1)#G2BruticusSet|Onslaught]], [[Swindle (G1)#G2BruticusSet|Swindle]], [[Vortex (G1)#GenerationsG2|Vortex]])}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Menasor (G1)#GenerationsG2|Menasor]] ([[Blackjack#GenerationsG2|Blackjack]], [[Wildrider (G1)#GenerationsG2|Brake-Neck]], [[Breakdown (G1)#GenerationsG2|Breakdown]], [[Dead End (G1)#GenerationsG2|Dead End]], [[Drag Strip (G1)#GenerationsG2|Dragstrip]], [[Motormaster (G1)#GenerationsG2|Motormaster]])}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] ([[Air Raid (G1)#GenerationsG2|Air Raid]], [[Fireflight (G1)#GenerationsG2|Firefly]], [[Powerglide (G1)#GenerationsG2|Powerglide]], [[Slingshot (G1)#GenerationsG2|Quickslinger]], [[Silverbolt (G1)#GenerationsG2|Silverbolt]], [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)#GenerationsG2|Skydive]])}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Diac#Generations|Diac]] & [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#TRVoyager|Optimus Prime]]}}
{{Bp-a2|"Chaos on Velocitron" [[Refractor#Generations|Refractor]] & [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#ChaosOnVelocitron|Laser Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[Kre-O]]'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|Autobot Assault [[Devastator (Kre-O)#OrangeDevastator|Devastator]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Devastator (Kre-O)#YellowDevastator|Constructicon Devastator]]}}
</ul>
|}
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;Hasbro via [[Fun Publications]]
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[BotCon 2010]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2d2|"Generation 2: Redux" ([[Breakdown (G1)#Timelines|Breakdown]], [[Clench (G1)#Timelines|Clench]], [[Pyro_(G1)#Timelines|Autobot Spark]], [[Streetwise (G1)#Timelines|Streetstar]])}}
{{Bp-a2d2|[[Rapido#Timelines|Rapido]] & [[Cindersaur (G1)#Timelines|Cindersaur]] 2-pack}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Timelines|Sideswipe]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Transformers Collectors' Club]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|"Club Crossover Exclusive" ([[Megatron (G1)/toys#ClubCrossover|Megatron]])}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Fisitron (Timelines)#Toys|Fisitron]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Nightracer (G2)#Timelines|Nightracer]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Ramjet (G1)/toys#Timelines|Ramjet]]}}
*[[Solarbot#Shattered Glass|Solarbot]]
{{Bp-d2|[[Starscream (G1)/toys#Timelines|Starscream]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[BotCon 2013]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Electro#Timelines|Autobot Electrons]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:TL-toy Rapido.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|BotCon 2010 Rapido]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[BotCon 2014]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Kreon]] [[Breakdown (G1)#Kre-OG2|Breakdown]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[BotCon 2015]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Timelines|General Optimus Prime]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Hound (G1)/toys#Timelines|Sgt. Hound]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[BotCon 2016]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Ratchet (G1)/toys#BotCon2016|Autobot Ratchet]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Transformers Figure Subscription Service|Transformers Figure Subscription Service 5.0]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#DoublePretender|Double Pretender Optimus Prime]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#Timelines|Double Pretender Megatron]]}}
</ul>
|}
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;TakaraTomy
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[e-HOBBY]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#G-2|Laser Ultra Magnus]]}}
*[[Solarbot#Shattered Glass|Solarbot]]
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[Hybrid Style]]'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#THS02B|Convoy Black Version]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|''Transformers'' (2010)]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Dreadwing (G2)#TokyoToyShow|Dreadwing]] & [[Smokescreen (G2)#TokyoToyShow|Smokescreen]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[Transformers United]]'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#UnitedG2|Laser Optimus Prime]]}}
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#UnitedTank|Tank Megatron]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:Masterpiece-MP12G-G2Lambor.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|''Masterpiece'' G2 Lambor]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[Transformers Chronicle|Chronicle]]'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#ChronicleEZHero|Megatron]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[Transformers United|United EX]]'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Roadblock_(G2)#United_EX_2|Dozermaster]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Manta Ray (G2)#United EX 2|Marinemaster]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Rapido#United EX 2|Racemaster]] Prime Mode}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a2|[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#G2Masterpiece|Bumble G-2 Ver.]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#G2Masterpiece|Lambor G-2 Ver.]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/toys#LG63|G2 Megatron]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{--}}

==Notes==
*A ''Generation 2'' exists within the fictional [[Unicron Trilogy]] universe, as a ''toyline''! According to the online [[Cyber Key Codes|Cyber Key Code]] bio for the [[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] Decepticon, [[Shortround (Cybertron)|Shortround]], he is an avid toy collector whose prize pieces are [[Generation 2 Defensor and Menasor]]. However, it is not specified whether or not these items are actually ''Transformers'' toys like their real world counterparts.

{{DEFAULTSORT:Generation 2 (toyline)}}
[[Category:Earth culture]]
[[Category:Generation 2| Generation 2 (toyline)]]
[[Category:Toylines]]

Titan Master

2018-11-08T05:49:09Z

Jeddostotle7: Correcting link for Ptero

[[File:crashbash_titan_master.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|[[Squeezeplay (G1)|Crashbash]].]]

'''Titan Masters''' are a diminutive breed of [[Transformer]]. Long ago, this ancient and mysterious group of Transformers worked within the gigantic bodies of the [[Titan (IDW)|Titans]], maintaining their complicated systems as the Titans journeyed across the [[galaxy]]. The Titan Masters were created as gifts, intended to be shared with other civilizations that the Titans might meet in their journeys. Each Titan Master possesses a unique [[Spark]] that allows them to transfer their innate powers into the bodies of other Cybertronians by forming their head, not unlike the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]].

With the resurgence of the Titans themselves, the Titan Masters, long forgotten by Cybertronian civilization at large, have re-emerged from the realm of myth and legend and joined the modern era of the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s... representing a Pandora's grab-bag of superpowers sure to unleash earth-shaking results.

==Fiction==
===''Titans Return'' marketing material===
When the universe was still forming, before [[Autobot]]s or [[Decepticon]]s existed, the giant spaceship robots known as Titans were created and sent out to discover the powers and mysteries of the universe. Each Titan was crewed by Titan Masters, tiny robot caretakers charged with up-keeping their systems. The Titan Masters also had a greater purpose: Each had a unique superpower they could grant to other Transformers, a gift intended to forge links with other civilizations they might discover. The Titans and their crews were eventually forgotten by all but a few power-hungry and entirely unsuccessful legend hunters. Until the Titans mysteriously returned, and the Titan Masters partnered up with Autobots and Decepticons alike. [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] vowed that the Decepticons would use the Titan Masters to rule the universe!

This new conflict quickly spread across the Transformer's universe. On [[Velocitron]] the Speed Planet's biggest race of the year was interrupted in the final lap. Blurr, a previous champion of all Velocitron's major races, had teamed up with Titan Master [[Haywire|Hyperfire]] at his wheel. They vied with [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] for the lead when the Decepticon tracker Scourge and an allied Titan Master [[Squeezeplay (G1)|Crashbash]] attacked, trying to capture their assigned target: Hyperfire. Luckily Powermaster [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] and [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] were on hand to try and stop them.

Meanwhile, searching for info on the mysterious return of the Titans and their crews, [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] followed a trail of clues to the "Beast Planet" [[Eukaris]]. Amid jungle covered buildings Alpha Trion and the Titan Master [[Grimlock (G1)|Clobber]] located a mysterious ancient artifact that was linked to the Titans and Titan Masters. [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] led [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Weirdwolf (G1)|Wolfwire]], and the Titan Master [[Apeface]] in an ambush to steal the artifact.

On [[Caminus]], the Decepticon [[Skullcruncher (G1)|Skullsmasher]] aided by Titan Masters Grax and Terri-bull infiltrated the planet and stole the codes to the intergalactic [[Space bridge|Space Bridge]] network for the Decepticons. An Autobot spy team lead by [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] detected the theft. Blaster, [[Stripes]], [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] and the Titan Master [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] chased down the thieves and battled for the codes in Caminus' streets.

Later, back on Cybertron, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] led an all out assault. [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] Astrotrain, Skullsmasher, [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], among others, pressed the attack while Powermaster Prime, Chromedome, Highbrow, Wheelie, Blaster and Hardhead were among the defenders. The battle was interrupted when what first seemed like an earthquake attack by Rumble was actually the landscape itself transforming into the Legendary Titan: [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], so large he uses two levels of Titan Master. {{storylink|Titans Return: The Power of the Titan Masters}}

Later, back on Velocitron a new race was held. The prize? The power to temporarily control the speed of anything, even time itself. The Autobots sent a team lead by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Laser Prime]]. At his command - [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]] (a Quantum Engineer to supercharge their engines), [[Fastlane|Fastclash]] (a decoy and escape artist, to confuse pursuit and leave it in a wreck) and [[Quickswitch]] (a mercurial assault warrior). Rodimus Prime finished the race first and claimed the prize for the Autobots, but there was a catch! To gain the power he was transformed into a Titan Master himself, able to grant it to another. The Autobots faced a firefight to evade the Cons and leave the planet. Laser Prime saved the day, useing his Laserpoint System to open a portal away from the world of speed. <ref>''Titans Return'' Chaos on Velocitron pack-in poster bios and story blurb</ref>

In the depths of space the monster Titan [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] and his Titan Master [[Wipe-Out|Necro]] traveled in starship mode between worlds, landing as a dark fortress or a terrible giant beast, brining doom and ultimate destruction wherever they passed. Trypticon ever hungered for Titan Masters to devour the way another robot would Energon cubes, and the macabre Necro longs to harvest and devour the sparks of all Transformers who cross his dark path.
{{storylink|Trypticon (G1)#Titans Return|''Titans Return'' Trypticon on-package blurb}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:TitansReturn Infinitus Sentinel.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.2]]
The Titan Masters were an ancient race, dating back to the time of the [[Thirteen Tribes]]. {{storylink|White Heat}} Their diminutive stature belied their frighteningly alien physiology; not only could they puppeteer the decapitated bodies of any larger Transformer, but they had the ability to consume the [[Spark]]s of their victims as an alternative source of energy. {{storylink|Ten to Midnight}} Their power lay in the ability to summon and control the [[Titan (IDW)|Titan]]s of ancient Cybertron, who were instinctually drawn to follow their commands. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (IDW)|Ghost in the Machine}} Some possessed the ability to fly under their own power, {{storylink|Enter The Shadow}} and, unlike other Cybertronians, they could selectively shut down parts of their body to cope with discomfort. {{storylink|Power and Glory}}

At least two Titan Masters survived until the present day. [[Infinitus]], who had served his master [[Nexus Prime]] during the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]], took on a new identity after the death of his Prime and became [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], "dying" during his first battle with [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. {{storylink|White Heat}} Following the creation of [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] on [[Earth]], Infinitus was roused from his slumber and vowed to "purify" Cybertron from Decepticons and colonists. {{storylink|The Last Autobot}}

[[Sovereign]], the herald of [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Onyx Prime]], was dispatched to Earth to find the lost [[Enigma of Combination]]. Disguised as a [[human]], he eventually took on the alias [[G.B. Blackrock|Garrison Blackrock]]. {{storylink|White Light}} He remained unaware of his true heritage until Sentinel Prime travelled to Earth and forcibly re-awoke Sovereign from his human disguise. Although Sentinel Prime planned to use an army of undead Titans to cleanse his homeworld, he and Sovereign were defeated by [[Fortress Maximus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Fortress Maximus]], [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]], [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]], [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], and [[Beak]]. Sovereign was reverted to his Blackrock persona and Sentinel was killed. {{storylink|Ten to Midnight}} "Blackrock" would go on to use his Titan Master powers extensively during the search for the [[Talisman (G1)|Talisman]] and [[Merklynn|Garrison Kreiger]]. {{storylink|Crisis Intervention}} After receiving encouragement from the spectre of [[Atomic Man|Mike Power]], Blackrock used his abilities to summon [[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] and transmit a curative pulse, amplified by the Titan's personal Space Bridge, returning the [[Dire Wraith]] mutates to human form. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (IDW)|Ghost in the Machine}}
{{-}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
In the ten thousand years following the [[Grand Uprising]], the subclasses of [[Cyberdroid]] ([[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]]s, [[Powermaster]]s) were misremembered as the "Titanmasters". [[Lio Convoy]] was thought to have been Titanmaster partners with the mech called [[Moon (BWII)|Moon or Mecha Usagi]], though this was unconfirmed. {{storylink|The Inexorable March}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
====Titans Return====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Titan Master'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Squeezeplay (G1)#Generations|Crashbash]] with dragon/tyrannosaur}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Siren (G1)#Generations|Loudmouth]] with hovercar/hovertank}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Nightbeat (G1)#TitansReturn|Nightbeat]] with jet/drilltank}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Horri-Bull#Generations|Terri-Bull]] with tank/jet}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Apeface#Generations|Apeface]] with gorilla/jet}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Brawn (G1)/toys#TitansReturn|Brawn]] with hovercraft/treaded jeep}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Clobber]] with dragon/tyrannosaur}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Flywheels#Generations|Skytread]] with tank/jet}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Swoop (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Autobot Ptero]] with pteranodon/jet}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Fangry (G1)#Generations|Decepticon Fangry]] with winged wolf/dragon}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Overkill (G1)#Generations|Overboard]] with dragon/tyrannosaur}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Lione#Generations|Sawback]] with lion/jet}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Shuffler#Generations|Autobot Shuffler]] with elephant/tank}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Repugnus (G1)#Generations|Repugnus]] with insectoid monster/blade shield}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Ramhorn (G1)#Titans Return|Ramhorn]] with rhinoceros/tank}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:TF-Generations-Titans-Return-Titan-Master-Shuffler.jpg|thumb|250px|Titan Master Shuffler]]
|}

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Deluxe'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Grax#Generations|Grax]] with [[Skullcruncher (G1)#Generations|Skullsmasher]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Duros#Generations|Furos]] with [[Hardhead (G1)#Generations|Hardhead]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Fracas#Generations|Fracas]] with [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Scourge]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Haywire#Generations|Hyperfire]] with [[Blurr (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Blurr]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Stylor#Generations|Autobot Stylor]] with [[Chromedome (G1)#Generations|Chromedome]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Monzo#Generations|Monxo]] with [[Weirdwolf (G1)#Generations|Wolfwire]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Vorath#Generations|Vorath]] with [[Mindwipe (G1)#Generations|Mindwipe]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Gort#Generations|Xort]] with [[Highbrow (G1)#Generations|Highbrow]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Arcana#TitansReturnIndividual|Autobot Teslor]] with [[Brainstorm (G1)#TitansReturnIndividual|Brainstorm]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Firebolt (G1)#Generations|Firedrive]] with [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Autobot Hot Rod]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Daburu (Generations)#Generations|Daburu]] with [[Doublecross#Generations|Autobot Twinferno]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Blowpipe (G1)#Generations|Blowpipe]] with [[Triggerhappy (G1)#Generations|Triggerhappy]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Rev#Generations|Autobot Throttle]] with [[Getaway#Generations|Autobot Breakaway]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Convex#Generations|Convex]] with [[Perceptor (G1)#Titans Return|Perceptor]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Recoil (G1)#Generations|Flintlock]] with [[Kup (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Sergeant Kup]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Freezeout (Generations)#Generations|Freezeout]] with [[Topspin (G1)#Generations|Autobot Topspin]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Gatoraider#Generations|Gatorface]] with [[Krok (G1)#Generations|Decepticon Krok]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Chasm#Generations|Chasm]] with [[Quake (G1)#Generations|Decepticon Quake]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Aimless (G1)|Aimless]] with [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Scorchfire#Generations|Scorchfire]] with [[Windblade (G1)#Titans Return|Windblade]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Flameout#Generations|Flameout]] with [[Twin Twist#Generations|Twin Twist]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Caliburst (G1)|Caliburst]] with [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]]}}
</ul>
|}

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Voyager''' ([[2016]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Infinitus#Generations|Autobot Infinitus]] with [[Sentinel Prime (G1)#Generations|Sentinel Prime]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Nucleon (Generations)#Generations|Nucleon]] with [[Galvatron (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Galvatron]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Darkmoon#Generations|Darkmoon]] with [[Astrotrain (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Astrotrain]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Sovereign#Generations|Autobot Sovereign]] with [[Alpha Trion (G1)#Generations|Alpha Trion]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Doomshot#Generations|Doomshot]] with [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Diac#Generations|Diac]] with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#TRTripleChanger|Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Blunderbuss#Generations|Blunderbuss]] with [[Broadside (G1)#Generations|Broadside]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Murk#Generations|Murk]] with [[Octane#TitansReturn|Octone]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Hazard#Generations|Decepticon Hazard]] with [[Blitzwing (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Blitzwing]]}}
|}

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Leader'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Twin Cast#Generations|Twin Cast]] with [[Blaster (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Autobot Blaster]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Hi-Q#Generations|Autobot Apex]] with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Powermaster Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Soundblaster (Generations)#Generations|Soundblaster]] with [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Soundwave]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Revolver#Generations|Decepticon Revolver]] with [[Sixshot#Generations|Six Shot]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Ominus#Generations|Ominus]] with [[Black Shadow (Victory)#TitansReturn|Sky Shadow]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Giga#Generations|Dreadnaut]] with [[Overlord (Masterforce)#Generations|Decepticon Overlord]]}}
</ul>
|}

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Titan'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Emissary (Generations)#Generations|Emissary]] with [[Cerebros (G1)#Generations|Cerebros]] & [[Fortress Maximus (G1)#Generations|Fortress Maximus]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Wipe-Out#Generations|Necro]] with [[Full-Tilt (G1)#TitansReturn|Full-Tilt]] & [[Trypticon (G1)#TitansReturn|Trypticon]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=3|[[File:TF-Titans-Return-Necro.jpg|200px|thumb|[[Wipe-Out|Necro]]]]
|}

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Titan Force (2016)'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Infinitus#TitanForce|Autobot Infinitus]] & [[Sentinel Prime (G1)#TitanForce|Sentinel Prime]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Windblade (G1)#TitanForce|Windblade]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Brainstorm (G1)#TitanForce|Brainstorm]] & [[Arcana#TitanForce|Autobot Teslor]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Fortress Maximus Convention Edition (2016)'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Emissary (Generations)#Generations|Emissary]] & [[Cerebros (G1)#Generations|Cerebros]] & [[Fortress_Maximus_(G1)/toys#Generations|Fortress Maximus]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Primitive Skateboarding (2017)'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Primitive Skateboarding|Optimus Prime]] & [[Shreddicus Maximus#Generations|Shreddicus Maximus]]}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:TR-toy ShreddicusMaximus.jpg|thumb|250px|Primitive Skateboarding Leader Class Shreddicus Maximus and Optimus Prime]]
|}

{|style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Walgreens]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Arcana#TitansReturnIndividual|Autobot Teslor]] & [[Brainstorm (G1)#TitansReturnIndividual|Brainstorm]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|Chaos on Velocitron ([[Dynamus#Generations|Dynamus]] & [[Quickswitch#Generations|Quickswitch]], [[Refractor#Generations|Refractor]]
& [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#ChaosOnVelocitron|Laser Prime]], [[Parsec#Generations|Parsec]] & [[Nautica (G1)#Toys|Autobot Nautica]], [[Fastlane#Generations|Fastclash]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#ChaosOnVelocitron|Rodimus Prime]])}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[BigBadToyStore]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{bp-a1d1|Siege on Cybertron ([[Ginrai (human)#Generations|Ginrai]] & [[Magnus Prime#Toys|Magnus Prime]], [[Haruma_Gō#Generations|Professor Go]] & [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)#Generations|Metalhawk]], [[Fathom#Generations|Fathom]] & [[Tidal Wave (G1)#Generations|Tidal Wave]], [[Pounce#Generations|Pounce]], [[Thunderwing (G1)#SiegeOnCybertron|Thunderwing]])}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Hasbro Toy Shop/ToysЯUs'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Daniel Witwicky (G1)#Generations|Leinad]] & [[Arcee (G1)/toys#Titans_Return|Arcee]] with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Titans_Return|Ultra Magnus]]}}
{{Bp-a1d1|[[Fengul]] & [[Grotusque]] with [[Scorponok (G1)/toys#Generations|Scorponok]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:TF-Generations-Titans-Return-Brainstorm-(Individual-Release).jpg|thumb|250px|Walgreens exclusive Deluxe Class Brainstorm and Autobot Teslor.]]
|}

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Special Edition''' ([[2018]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Dastard#Toys|Dastard]] & [[Repugnus (G1)#SpecialEdition|Repugnus]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:TF-Generations-TR-Deluxe-Class-Repugnus.jpg|thumb|250px|Special Edition Deluxe Class Dastard and Repugnus]]
|}

====Studio Series====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Deluxe''' ([[2019]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|39 [[Cogman#Deluxe|Cogman]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:Studio-Series-MV5-39-Deluxe-Cogman.jpg|thumb|250px|Deluxe Class Cogman]]
|}
{{note|Although [[Thundercracker (Movie)#Generations|Thundercracker]] lacks a Titan Master of his own, the non-transformable head can be removed and replaced with one, which can also ride in his jet mode's cockpit.}}

===Tribute===
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Evolution 2-Pack''' ([[2017]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Tribute2Pack|Orion Pax]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:TF-Tribute-2-pack-Orion-Pax.jpg|thumb|250px|Deluxe Class Orion Pax]]
|}

===The Last Knight===
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Deluxe''' ([[2017]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Cogman#Deluxe|Cogman]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:TLK-DeluxeCogman.jpg|thumb|250px|Deluxe Class Cogman]]
|}
{{note|Although [[Nitro_Zeus#The_Last_Knight|Decepticon Nitro]] lacks a Titan Master of his own, the non-transformable head can be removed and replaced with one, which can also ride in his jet mode's cockpit.}}

===Bumblebee===
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Leader''' (2018)
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Soundwave (ROTF)#Bumblebee|Soundwave]] & [[Doombox]]}}
|
|[[File:Bumblebee-Greatest-Hits-Doombox.jpg|thumb|250px]]
|}
{{--}}

==Notes==
*In a nod to the conceptual origins of the Titan Masters, the blueprint-style design on the inside of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' packaging features an image of [[Nebulos]], with lines branching out to images of Titan Masters.
*While there are standardised elements to ensure line-wide compatibility, the exact design of both Titan Master heads and sockets varies from figure to figure. As a result, some combinations will result in a vice-like grip, and others in a loose, wobbly connection, even when using the Titan Master originally packaged with the figure. Looser connections can often be improved by rotating the Titan Master's head 180 degrees – this causes the tabs inside the socket to press directly onto the sides of the head (rather than sitting into the notches designed for them), creating a tighter grip.

===Foreign names===
*''French'': '''Maître Titan'''
*''Portuguese'': '''Mestre Titã'''
*''Spanish'': '''Maestro Titán'''

==See also==
*[[Headmaster (technology)]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Generation 1 subgroups]]
[[Category:Gimmicks]]
[[Category:Technology]]
[[Category:Titan Masters| ]]
[[Category:Titans Return]]

Talk:Raksha

2018-10-11T20:52:53Z

Talk:Raksha

2018-10-11T05:11:02Z

Jeddostotle7: /* Does anyone know what happened to her? */

Talk:Raksha

2018-10-11T05:10:33Z

Jeddostotle7:

Toy scalping

2017-08-06T02:24:32Z

Jeddostotle7: /* How scalpers work */

[[File:Jazzscalper.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|"I'm just trying to help out a few fellow fans!"]]
'''Scalping''', in the context of toy collecting, refers to the practice of deliberately buying multiples of the same (usually "rare" or "popular", oftentimes both) toy with the intention of creating an artificial scarcity. Subsequently, the ''scalper'' will sell the toys again (usually on [[eBay]]), for a price much higher than the original store price, knowing that the high demand, coupled with the rarity of the toy (which is at least in part due to the scalping), will result in buyers being desperate enough to pay the prices the scalper asks for. In essence, scalpers are scum.

== Origin of the term ==
The term "scalping" in its original sense refers to the practice of removing the scalp of a human being, usually a defeated enemy, to claim it as a trophy. Later, the term would also be adopted to refer to a [[wikipedia:Scalping (trading)|practice of market manipulation]] in the context of trading in securities and commodities, not completely unlike what ''toy'' scalpers do. "Scalping" is also sometimes used to describe the practice of [[wikipedia:ticket resale|ticket reselling]], which is very much like toy scalping.

== How scalpers work ==
Being a scalper means having a good advance feeling for which toys will become popular and ship in [[Shortpacking|low enough numbers]] to make scalping actually a profitable business. Nothing is more annoying for a scalper than buying several dozen ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' [[Sunstreaker (G1)/toys#Alternators|Sunstreaker]] toys and then finding out that Hasbro just sent another huge shipment of the same toy to stores. Obviously, it's hard to sell a toy for $50 on eBay when the same toy is [[Shelfwarmer|warming shelves]] at [[Walmart]] stores that offer it for $20.

Many scalpers actually arrange their daily time schedules around their scalping activities. They know when a truck will arrive bringing in new stuff, and then take all the "hot" toys straight out of the case. As a result, many of those toys never even end up on the store shelf (or the peg) to begin with, hence making it outright impossible for normal customers to "compete" with the scalpers (e.g. purchasing the desired toys at the store). Some scalpers are actually store employees themselves, which helps their cause even more.

== Scalping in other countries ==
Scalping toys is not limited to North America, apparently. Reports from Far Eastern Asia, where toy collecting is also a popular hobby in many countries, seem to suggest that the problem might actually be even ''worse'' there than it is in the USA. On the other hand, there is no substantial evidence that indicates that systematic scalping is a common practice in Europe beyond a few individuals. Some countries' legal restrictions for "private" selling of unopened goods in large quantities might be responsible to some degree.

== External links ==
*[http://www.alteredstatesmag.com/mar2000/columns/dvd_scalping.shtml Essay about the problems of toy scalping at Altered Stages Magazine]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20100110094743/http://www.articulateddiscussion.com/post/Scalped!-Interview-with-the-Enemy.aspx Interview with two toy scalpers at Articulated Discussion]
*[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=89528 First hand account of an encounter with highly organized scalpers]

[[Category:Fan terminology]]
[[Category:Fandom]]
[[Category:Toys]]

Talk:Tracks (G1)

2016-07-22T07:03:59Z

Jeddostotle7: /* Can we get rid of the pointless gay jokes in the intro? */

What's the source of this Tracks quote? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Heck if I know. A google search brought up nothing, so I've removed it until we can source it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
::[http://www.allspark.com/interviews/michael-mcconnohie-audio-interview-20050211.html Heh.] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Direct to eBay exclusive?

That's a joke, based on the rarity of Alt. Tracks. [[User:202.7.183.131|202.7.183.131]] 04:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

What about a Gay Transformers Catagory? There's probably enough to warrent one, Shockfleet, BWII Starscream, BB etc. etc. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

But Tracks isn't gay...I mean, TFs don't have sex anyway. Maybe my bio notes of his massive powers and handsome styling were unclear...*confused* [[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 20:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:Categorically, NO! There is no official basis for "gay" Transformers, and the topic is beyond the appropriate purpose of this Wiki.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC) (P.S. The reference to Raul doesn't belong in the main bio, either. It belongs in the "Animated Continuity" section.)
::Point conceded. I blame a.t.t. for warping my mind... --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 21:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Frankly I think all the of innuendo in that bio should be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Aw. I'm a *huge* fan of it. And it's technically not breaking any rules... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::The problem I have is that "gay Tracks" is a fandom construct. I am certainly guilty of using the concept to make jokes, but the character doesn't actually ever demonstrate romantic interest in other male characters. A page full innuendo to that effect stikes me as misleading. But, that's just my opinion. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::See, the entry is no more gay than Tracks is. He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not too concerned about what's there. If it's not clearly a fan-construct, I'll not raise a huge fuss. But it is indeed full of innuendo that may not be appropriate. For example:

:::::::"well-endowed with a sleek, muscular, and tastefully decorated..."
:::::::"He is able to launch two flaming incendiary missiles from long and durable launcher tubes."
:::::::"embracing his enemies in darkness, unaware of the Autobot until he strikes from behind, and leaves them moaning on the cold ground!"
:::::::"Tracks can also fly like a butterfly by deploying his secret, hidden wings from their protective closet."

:::::::You get the idea. Technically accurate, but purposedly written in such a way as to play up the "gayness" of it all. I don't think it's cool.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I am confused by this statement: "He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate." I don't understand how it's accurate to say that Tracks acts like he's gay. Here, as before, I am defining gay as demonstrating a romantic interest in characters that share his gender. Tracks doesn't do that. Hell, I think there's a better case to be made that Red Alert and Sandstorm are gay than Tracks is, depending on how one interprets their feelings for Inferno and Octane, respectively. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::You're quite right, of course;in fact, since Tracksy can't get along with his buddies, he has even less opportunity to show any kind of affection for them than Optimus Prime, and nobody every accused Prime of towing dual trailers. I also know very well that Tracks' voice actor (I'm not good with their names) was trying to portray him as an Ivy League snob. The trouble is that this conspires with his Bud-given personality to rather comic effect, and lends him a certain poncy air...and that was what I was trying to portray in the bio. I think.--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::As a gay Transformers fan, I have to say the whole intro/bio thing bothers me. It was funny for the first line or so, and then it became like an episode of "Are You Being Served" - tired, unnecessary, distracting from the actual information, and makes me want to stab you in the eye with Convoy's smokestacks. You managed to fill several paragraphs with gay innuendo loosely anchored by actual facts about the character - congratulations. Now how about writing it properly? It is a) unwarranted, since Tracks has already been established as 'not gay', and even if he was, b) it invokes unfair stereotypes, such as predatory sexual behaviour. So you're perpetuating two myths; one about Tracks and one about gays. Why not keep that whole blue Bluestreak figure myth thing going while you're at it? I don't see you putting lines into every "straight", "male" Transformer's bio about wanting to "something" their "something" with Arcee. Bottom line: grow up; if you want to be taken seriously as a Transformers resource, act like it.[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 16:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I was going to ask who decided it was a good idea to hijack Tracks' page and transform- oh I'm sorry, convert it into a walking pack of sex innuendos, but I see this is actually an ongoing debate, as old as the Wiki itself.
If I may throw in my two cents' worth, it was funny the first time, in a 'Dafuq did I just read' sort of way, but seeing it every time I go on the page has become a little annoying. It feels like the jokes are getting in the way of the information a little, and the way some of it reads is plain stupid. I think if I hadn't previously read the 'proper' version of his write-up, I would be super confused, and even as it is, the article implies that he's some sort of sex maniac [[Rattrap_(BW)|who likes making inappropriate jokes]].
Just my two cents! [[User:Poteto-Man|Poteto-Man]] ([[User talk:Poteto-Man|talk]]) 21:22, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:I struggle to see how this is an "ongoing" argument when nothing has posted on this talk page for four years.-[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 22:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)

==Gay jokes==

I don't have a problem with allusions to Tracks' fan-constructed homosexuality, but I think that the number of references in the bio has reached and surpassed the saturation point. Also, the fact that this Transformers Wiki is so easily found in a google search recommends that any gay jokes be kept to a tasteful minimum. We have to remember that Transformers is a toy line aimed primarily at children, and as such, the potential audience must be considered. As it stands, there are 14 references and double entendres in the 4 paragraphs that make up the largest part of the bio. This is a serious issue. (Kizudarake on the Allspark)

:I'm not sure how any kid who doesn't or shouldn't know what this stuff means would even realize it's innuendo in the first place. Innuendo only works if you're already in on the joke. What five-year-old who doesn't understand that "shaft" is a euphemism for "penis" is going to stumble across this page and realize, "Oh, hey, this article is about gay sex!" This is not a serious issue. Certainly not on a wiki with ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' of all things included. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::But the "Mommy, what's this word mean?" effect can cause some serious problems, and complaints.(Kizudarake from The Allspark)
:::I'll say. Like why isn't the kid's online activity being monitored more closely? At any rate, the proper way to go about this, after having your changes reverted like 30 times, and being told 30 times to cut it out, is clearly not to do it again just now as we're having this discussion. How many times do you have to be told? Take a vacation! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed. It's not the Wiki's job to account for lazy parenting. [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 06:43, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:I'm really not understanding your comment that "this is a serious issue". The innuendo will go over the head of anybody that doesn't already know that gay people exist. If a parent gets upset that their child read something that acknowledges the existence of gay people, then that's too bad. It's to the kid's benefit and the parent is a moron. If you are worried about the effect these jokes will have, you are welcome to disavow your involvement with this Wiki, which is easy because, you know, you ''have'' no involvement at all with this Wiki anyway except for having a weird issue with one particular article. The article's not going to change and it's not your problem. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 18:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::I think what it comes down to is how the TF Wiki wants to be taken. If it wants to be taken seriously, the Tracks article needs to be re-written to a more "professional" standard. However as is the Wiki is largely humorous, and as such the Tracks article is mostly fine, although some of the jokes are stupid. The downside is that it somewhat compromises the integrity of the Wiki. --Debbie Downer
:::AFAIK, we do have a syste of review for such jokes- and the standard we use is- 'if the jokes get in the way of delivering the information, they have to go.' But hand-in-hand with that we have 'please don't make this joyless.' Have you seen [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie's]] entry? That is ''beautiful''. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::: "Professional"? You mean like Wikipedia? Absurdly solemn, extraordinarily opinionated despite a facade of gormless neutrality, unreliable on anything remotely political, and totally boring? We definitely want to keep our distance from that. Part of our mission here is to poke holes in the more inflatable fans, and the humor is quite useful for that, and the other part is to be the Hitchhiker's Guide To Transformers. We don't want to be the Encyclopedia Galactica. (N.B. I mean no disrespect to the great idea behind Wikipedia, but too many of their editors are only interested in grinding their personal axes. It's great for a lot of stuff, but unfortunately fails utterly at anything in the field of sociology, or as I said, anything political. But their 'neutrality' has very little to do with the accuracy or lack thereof of each article. Give me humor with accuracy over solemn half-truths any day.) --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 13:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::: And our info goes into more detail, anyway, compared to the regular TF wikipedia. I mean we talk about toys. TOYS! Alot of people act as though toys hardly matter in Transformers. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Re: joyless, I suggest you examine who is actually getting the joy; whether you are just entertaining yourself, or the visitors themselves are actually being delighted and amused by it, because I think you might be giggling your rear-end assembly off in a room full of crickets chirping. If the former, I recommend you find better ways of getting your various jollies. BTW, "taken seriously" in terms of readers believing the stuff posted here, not "Mr Boring". You can be be an authorative source without being dull and uninteresting. But with crap like this, why would we believe anything posted in this wiki? You're obviously just putting up whatever junk you feel like. The opposite of "absurdly solemn" doesn't need to be "pointlessly juvenile". You've already accomplished integration of some clever writing style in many articles, as well as funny captions to pictures. Then there's this. Be clever, don't be a joke. It's a real turnoff.[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 17:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Totally entertaining myself, of course. A would-be joker must be prepared to be the only one to laugh, sometimes. True enough that there are other alternatives to absurd solemnity, but I don't think the TF-Wiki approach is pointlessly juvenile. I prefer to think of it as slyly sophomoric. Besides, even Shakespeare had his share of cheap jokes and lowbrow humor. And besides besides that, I really think that we all respect viewpoints more if we know who is expressing them, regretable as this feeling may be in its lack of objectivity. (Besides x3 that, this particular article seems to amuse one or two people, which I can't really understand, since it's a straightforward presentation of his tech spec bio. Oh well.) --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::Political correctness sucks. Thanks alot, America. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Political correctness nothing. How about even-handed accuracy? G1 Ironhide's clearly Southern. Why isn't he characterised as out there drinking from a jug with XXXX on it, and beating up on Chromia? If Tracks had been established as gay, I would not have a problem with a couple of jokes or references, since there are jokes and references about just about all the characters. But a) once again, he's not, and we know that<nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>, but it seems that you're prepared to perpetuate a myth (and, frankly, look stupid, like you didn't actually know that he wasn't) for the purposes of a cheap laugh, and b) if he was, is that all you can come up with to write about him? Several paragraphs about him being gay. Devastator's entire introduction isn't that long. (G1) Optimus Prime's introduction isn't that long. Ultimately the reason this article is such a problem is that it is uncharacteristic of the site. it doesn't fit in because you don't go on and on and on for paragraphs about every character's most obvious characteristic. You've singled out the 'gay' one. Where's the phallus jokes about Perceptor? Where are the racial analogies directed at the Predacons or the Constructicons? They're the same color you know, and they stick together. Literally. Come on, I dare you. I'm totally disappointed, not even a single thing about the location of the G1 Megatron toy's trigger in bot mode. And BTW, I did say that I found it funny for the first line or so, but after that it was just completely pointless and unnecessary. We get it, you think he's gay, geez, move on with your life. You know what they say - if you obsess about it, you probably are one. (And that comes from one.) I'm not asking for special treatment here, just that you give Tracks the same rights, consideration and respect you would give any other character - however little that may be. (You're not the only one who can play the analogy). Okay, great, now you made me go on and on....[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 17:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Oy gewahlt, 59.167.133.165 (Too long, imma call you Leader-1). First of all, Leader-1, nobody wrote paragraphs about Tracks being gay. Tracks is, in fact, not gay. He is a robot, with no evidence of sexuality at all, and a fairly antisocial robot at that. However, as I said way up there, his personality as given in the Universe profile, coupled with his cartoon voice, and a bunch of amusing coincidences, have led to harmless little jokes like this. Nobody actually thinks he's homosexual. This article tries to emulate the Tracks we know by being a straightforward recitation of his bio notes, with a bunch of unfortunate and, dare we say, mildly amusing double-entendres. You, Leader-1, do admit you found it funny for the first line. Well, some of us don't just want a short, sly joke, and that seems to include most people who read this. Now, as for fairness, I don't think anybody escapes the Deadly Snarkage around here. I suggest clicking "Random Page" a bunch of times and reading some more of the bios. All right, Leader-1? Can we all be friends, and can we less-dignified groundlings continue to have our fun?--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::: I'm sorry 59.167.133.165, I must be missing something... you say Tracks isn't gay and we know that... how?
:::::::: Was there some Japanese re-release that listed his function as muffler-diver? Did he have a girlfriend? (Not that that's necessarily a disquaifier, as the West Coast Avengers' Living Lightning prooves...)
:::::::: Or are you one of those gaycists who insists that any character without a sexuality established to the contrary is straight?
:::::::: I am not necessarily arguing that Tracks ''is'' gay, but the tone of your arguments is really bothering me. You begin with the slurs against southerners that '''don't''' match Ironhide's exhibited behavior, and then object to the jokes that '''are''' based on Tracks exhibited behavior. So provide a source. What are you basing your Tracks-is-straight statements on? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::Hmm, yeah, just what I expected outta you. I think I was right the first time about the word "juvenile". You actually don't see how anyone could have an issue with the sheer volume in this article, do you? That's just the kind of person who should work as an editor.[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 17:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::''just what I expected outta you?'' That's pretty fucking rude 59.167.133.165, coming from an anonymous poster. So was it 'what you expected' to be asked to cite some sources and form an actual counter-argument beyond 'I don't like it'? And what do you mean 'should work as an editor'? This is a ''wiki''. We're ''all'' editors jackass. I'm a lowest-rank registered user (And one that spends much of his time baiting the admins to boot.) You seem to believe that when a bunch of people disagree with you it's because they're a cabal of close-knit friends acting as a group to quash all other opinions.
::::::::::Stop to consider, just for a moment, that it's possible that the ''reason'' large numbers of people are disagreeing with you is because... they actually ''do'' disagree with you.
::::::::::You want the article changed? '''So change it'''. It's a stub! The entire fiction section is 3 sentences! Rewrite the entire article whole-cloth as a nice, serious '''comprehensive''' history of the character! We mess with stubs because it's fun and inconsequential-- they're just stubs after all! We don't play around with comprehensive model-articles, because it reduces their level of uninformativeness.
::::::::::Or maybe you just don't '''want''' to document Tracks' major appearances because they involve him hanging aroung with a guy who, a dance club and being the victim of a hate-crime by Grimlock in his full-on incorrigible football-hooligan mode. (Which probably ''was'' a black-humored gay joke-- Furman once made a reference to Carmen Curlers's after all, he's not clueless.) Which is it, and have you stopped beating your wife?
:::::::::: Maybe the reason ''I'm'' stubbornly disagreeing with you (beyond my normal contrariness) is because you're demanding that others alter the article to meet your way of thinking instead of altering and improving it ''yourself'' to better serve ''everyone's'' purpose. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::As a gay knee-jerk liberal (and overeducated jampot) I would like to volunteer that I find the Tracks article funny.
:::::::And frankly, I'm offended by 59.167.133.165's attempts to remove all references to homosexuality from the wiki. Clearly he is a gay-racist and a deaf discriminator. I will sue him. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::::The one valid point Leader-1 might have here is that the predatory stuff was a bit much. Of course, it was also rather funny, but after some thought I cooked up a substitute that isn't too bland. Of course if we don't let any group get offended we are going to have to take out pretty much [[Outback (G1)|half this Wiki]], blandify everything else, and delete every reference to ''[[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]''. :) To Leader-1 the bold IP address, I would like to say that I am rather more amused than offended, especially by your implication that Southerners are all drunks who beat their wives.

:::::::::Derik: I hardly think it is reasonable to get pissed at Mr. IP Address for not attempting to edit the article himself, as he probably assumed -- quite correctly -- that any edit that removed the gay jokes would be instantly reverted. I'd say attempting to discuss the matter first on the talk page was actually the correct course of action.

:::::::::Anyway, Autobus Prime took out the line about Tracks "striking forcefully from behind" when he his enemies are "unaware," and then Dark T Zeratul put it back in. I'm going to take it back out again, and hope it stays out, as after all the joke is supposed to be that Tracks is gay, not that he's a rapist. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::::::Yes, gay jokes are one thing, rape ones are another altogether. I'm not overly fond of all the gay jokes here (some of them simply because they're not exactly fresh), but even with the innuendo, the actual facts of each sentence are clear. I don't think that this should be a super-dry po-faced encyclopaedia, but I think the most important is that a reader does learn what she or he didn't know about the subject afore. I think this article manages that. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 10:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

==Red Euro version==
The latest edit [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tracks&curid=1638&diff=30142&oldid=30141] claims that Tracks was released a second time (in blue) in Europe "due to poor sales". Is there any actual evidence for that? It sounds like fan supposition. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds like a question suited for Maz more than anyone else.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
::I put in a reference to the relevant article by Maz. - [[User:Ducktimus|Ducktimus]] 04:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Blue Euro Tracks: [http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/669/autobotcartracks01bk8.jpg Image 1], [http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1702/autobotcartracks02ae7.jpg image 2], [http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9867/autobotcartracks03rx1.jpg image 3]. Tracks is the only G1 toy other than Optimus Prime who I was able to find evidence for both an "MB" and a "Hasbro" release in Europe. Add to that the fact that blue Tracks is the only Autobot Car in Euro-Hasbro packaging to use 1985 back-of-the-box art rather than the 1986 mural used by the other Euro-Hasbrobots from 1986, it would seem that he was the first one to go into production.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
::::''Adding to the mystery is the fact that Tracks was released in the US with a 1984 back-of-the-box mural, despite being a 1985 release.'' [http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/ToysTracksMIB.html DEBUNKED]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know who just added that last line, but it's damn near perfect.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
==Yes/No==
Foppish yes,gay no.Not exactly butch though,that's for sure. As for the sex issue,why would mechanoids need to have genders,since their Quintesson masters don't show any overtly sexual characteristics either.[[User:ChoHIlqoq|ChoHIlqoq]] 01:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:And yet they do, since [[Female Transformers]] exist. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

So he's metrosexual. [[User:70.59.197.234|70.59.197.234]] 21:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

==unofficial, more G1 transformation?==
is it worth noting that RTS Tracks' back kibble can be folded up with the clip-on weapons extended out to resemble his G1 version more closely? [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 19:29, 29 January 2011 (EST)

==Can we get rid of the pointless gay jokes in the intro?==
Please? There's really no reason to have it be like that anymore - those jokes may have been funny back in 2006, but they just come off as "ha ha effeminate = gay = funny" in 2016. It's puerile and stupid. Most of the rest of the article, as far as I saw, seems fine; even the gay jokes in the captions and such aren't really denigrating in that "ha ha gays funny" way the intro is. It's just the intro that's irksome. [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] ([[User talk:Jeddostotle7|talk]]) 20:49, 19 July 2016 (EDT)
:Agreed with the sentiment, though I still think some of the sexual innuendo is funny. I've gone ahead and tried to preserve most of it, while getting rid of the "haha gay" stuff. Can't say I'm really that great on picking up all the slang for that though. Was anything missed? --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 23:19, 19 July 2016 (EDT)
::Honestly, it probably needs a full-scale re-write. Without the overt jokes, the language just reads as strange. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 06:52, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
:::There are still a bunch of gay jokes, it looks like some had their punchlines removed but the setups remain, which is just awkward and conspicuous. We can't go both ways in this article, if we're going to play it straight we've got to go all-in. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:05, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
::::I hate you for those puns.
::::That said, yeah, I vote full rewrite. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 08:13, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
:::::I tried really hard to hide it. Let's pray it works. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:23, 20 July 2016 (EDT)
::::::Honestly, I didn't expect a change of this scale in this short of a time since I mentioned it. Looking at the new intro courtesy of Thylacine, it gets rid of the pointless gay jokes and makes fun of how full of himself he is, and does it pretty well. It might not be perfect, but it's much better than before. Bang-up job. [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] ([[User talk:Jeddostotle7|talk]]) 03:03, 22 July 2016 (EDT)

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What's the source of this Tracks quote? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Heck if I know. A google search brought up nothing, so I've removed it until we can source it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
::[http://www.allspark.com/interviews/michael-mcconnohie-audio-interview-20050211.html Heh.] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Direct to eBay exclusive?

That's a joke, based on the rarity of Alt. Tracks. [[User:202.7.183.131|202.7.183.131]] 04:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

What about a Gay Transformers Catagory? There's probably enough to warrent one, Shockfleet, BWII Starscream, BB etc. etc. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

But Tracks isn't gay...I mean, TFs don't have sex anyway. Maybe my bio notes of his massive powers and handsome styling were unclear...*confused* [[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 20:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:Categorically, NO! There is no official basis for "gay" Transformers, and the topic is beyond the appropriate purpose of this Wiki.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC) (P.S. The reference to Raul doesn't belong in the main bio, either. It belongs in the "Animated Continuity" section.)
::Point conceded. I blame a.t.t. for warping my mind... --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 21:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Frankly I think all the of innuendo in that bio should be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Aw. I'm a *huge* fan of it. And it's technically not breaking any rules... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::The problem I have is that "gay Tracks" is a fandom construct. I am certainly guilty of using the concept to make jokes, but the character doesn't actually ever demonstrate romantic interest in other male characters. A page full innuendo to that effect stikes me as misleading. But, that's just my opinion. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::See, the entry is no more gay than Tracks is. He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not too concerned about what's there. If it's not clearly a fan-construct, I'll not raise a huge fuss. But it is indeed full of innuendo that may not be appropriate. For example:

:::::::"well-endowed with a sleek, muscular, and tastefully decorated..."
:::::::"He is able to launch two flaming incendiary missiles from long and durable launcher tubes."
:::::::"embracing his enemies in darkness, unaware of the Autobot until he strikes from behind, and leaves them moaning on the cold ground!"
:::::::"Tracks can also fly like a butterfly by deploying his secret, hidden wings from their protective closet."

:::::::You get the idea. Technically accurate, but purposedly written in such a way as to play up the "gayness" of it all. I don't think it's cool.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I am confused by this statement: "He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate." I don't understand how it's accurate to say that Tracks acts like he's gay. Here, as before, I am defining gay as demonstrating a romantic interest in characters that share his gender. Tracks doesn't do that. Hell, I think there's a better case to be made that Red Alert and Sandstorm are gay than Tracks is, depending on how one interprets their feelings for Inferno and Octane, respectively. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::You're quite right, of course;in fact, since Tracksy can't get along with his buddies, he has even less opportunity to show any kind of affection for them than Optimus Prime, and nobody every accused Prime of towing dual trailers. I also know very well that Tracks' voice actor (I'm not good with their names) was trying to portray him as an Ivy League snob. The trouble is that this conspires with his Bud-given personality to rather comic effect, and lends him a certain poncy air...and that was what I was trying to portray in the bio. I think.--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::As a gay Transformers fan, I have to say the whole intro/bio thing bothers me. It was funny for the first line or so, and then it became like an episode of "Are You Being Served" - tired, unnecessary, distracting from the actual information, and makes me want to stab you in the eye with Convoy's smokestacks. You managed to fill several paragraphs with gay innuendo loosely anchored by actual facts about the character - congratulations. Now how about writing it properly? It is a) unwarranted, since Tracks has already been established as 'not gay', and even if he was, b) it invokes unfair stereotypes, such as predatory sexual behaviour. So you're perpetuating two myths; one about Tracks and one about gays. Why not keep that whole blue Bluestreak figure myth thing going while you're at it? I don't see you putting lines into every "straight", "male" Transformer's bio about wanting to "something" their "something" with Arcee. Bottom line: grow up; if you want to be taken seriously as a Transformers resource, act like it.[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 16:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I was going to ask who decided it was a good idea to hijack Tracks' page and transform- oh I'm sorry, convert it into a walking pack of sex innuendos, but I see this is actually an ongoing debate, as old as the Wiki itself.
If I may throw in my two cents' worth, it was funny the first time, in a 'Dafuq did I just read' sort of way, but seeing it every time I go on the page has become a little annoying. It feels like the jokes are getting in the way of the information a little, and the way some of it reads is plain stupid. I think if I hadn't previously read the 'proper' version of his write-up, I would be super confused, and even as it is, the article implies that he's some sort of sex maniac [[Rattrap_(BW)|who likes making inappropriate jokes]].
Just my two cents! [[User:Poteto-Man|Poteto-Man]] ([[User talk:Poteto-Man|talk]]) 21:22, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:I struggle to see how this is an "ongoing" argument when nothing has posted on this talk page for four years.-[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 22:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)

==Gay jokes==

I don't have a problem with allusions to Tracks' fan-constructed homosexuality, but I think that the number of references in the bio has reached and surpassed the saturation point. Also, the fact that this Transformers Wiki is so easily found in a google search recommends that any gay jokes be kept to a tasteful minimum. We have to remember that Transformers is a toy line aimed primarily at children, and as such, the potential audience must be considered. As it stands, there are 14 references and double entendres in the 4 paragraphs that make up the largest part of the bio. This is a serious issue. (Kizudarake on the Allspark)

:I'm not sure how any kid who doesn't or shouldn't know what this stuff means would even realize it's innuendo in the first place. Innuendo only works if you're already in on the joke. What five-year-old who doesn't understand that "shaft" is a euphemism for "penis" is going to stumble across this page and realize, "Oh, hey, this article is about gay sex!" This is not a serious issue. Certainly not on a wiki with ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' of all things included. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::But the "Mommy, what's this word mean?" effect can cause some serious problems, and complaints.(Kizudarake from The Allspark)
:::I'll say. Like why isn't the kid's online activity being monitored more closely? At any rate, the proper way to go about this, after having your changes reverted like 30 times, and being told 30 times to cut it out, is clearly not to do it again just now as we're having this discussion. How many times do you have to be told? Take a vacation! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed. It's not the Wiki's job to account for lazy parenting. [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 06:43, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:I'm really not understanding your comment that "this is a serious issue". The innuendo will go over the head of anybody that doesn't already know that gay people exist. If a parent gets upset that their child read something that acknowledges the existence of gay people, then that's too bad. It's to the kid's benefit and the parent is a moron. If you are worried about the effect these jokes will have, you are welcome to disavow your involvement with this Wiki, which is easy because, you know, you ''have'' no involvement at all with this Wiki anyway except for having a weird issue with one particular article. The article's not going to change and it's not your problem. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 18:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::I think what it comes down to is how the TF Wiki wants to be taken. If it wants to be taken seriously, the Tracks article needs to be re-written to a more "professional" standard. However as is the Wiki is largely humorous, and as such the Tracks article is mostly fine, although some of the jokes are stupid. The downside is that it somewhat compromises the integrity of the Wiki. --Debbie Downer
:::AFAIK, we do have a syste of review for such jokes- and the standard we use is- 'if the jokes get in the way of delivering the information, they have to go.' But hand-in-hand with that we have 'please don't make this joyless.' Have you seen [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie's]] entry? That is ''beautiful''. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::: "Professional"? You mean like Wikipedia? Absurdly solemn, extraordinarily opinionated despite a facade of gormless neutrality, unreliable on anything remotely political, and totally boring? We definitely want to keep our distance from that. Part of our mission here is to poke holes in the more inflatable fans, and the humor is quite useful for that, and the other part is to be the Hitchhiker's Guide To Transformers. We don't want to be the Encyclopedia Galactica. (N.B. I mean no disrespect to the great idea behind Wikipedia, but too many of their editors are only interested in grinding their personal axes. It's great for a lot of stuff, but unfortunately fails utterly at anything in the field of sociology, or as I said, anything political. But their 'neutrality' has very little to do with the accuracy or lack thereof of each article. Give me humor with accuracy over solemn half-truths any day.) --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 13:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::: And our info goes into more detail, anyway, compared to the regular TF wikipedia. I mean we talk about toys. TOYS! Alot of people act as though toys hardly matter in Transformers. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Re: joyless, I suggest you examine who is actually getting the joy; whether you are just entertaining yourself, or the visitors themselves are actually being delighted and amused by it, because I think you might be giggling your rear-end assembly off in a room full of crickets chirping. If the former, I recommend you find better ways of getting your various jollies. BTW, "taken seriously" in terms of readers believing the stuff posted here, not "Mr Boring". You can be be an authorative source without being dull and uninteresting. But with crap like this, why would we believe anything posted in this wiki? You're obviously just putting up whatever junk you feel like. The opposite of "absurdly solemn" doesn't need to be "pointlessly juvenile". You've already accomplished integration of some clever writing style in many articles, as well as funny captions to pictures. Then there's this. Be clever, don't be a joke. It's a real turnoff.[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 17:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Totally entertaining myself, of course. A would-be joker must be prepared to be the only one to laugh, sometimes. True enough that there are other alternatives to absurd solemnity, but I don't think the TF-Wiki approach is pointlessly juvenile. I prefer to think of it as slyly sophomoric. Besides, even Shakespeare had his share of cheap jokes and lowbrow humor. And besides besides that, I really think that we all respect viewpoints more if we know who is expressing them, regretable as this feeling may be in its lack of objectivity. (Besides x3 that, this particular article seems to amuse one or two people, which I can't really understand, since it's a straightforward presentation of his tech spec bio. Oh well.) --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::Political correctness sucks. Thanks alot, America. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Political correctness nothing. How about even-handed accuracy? G1 Ironhide's clearly Southern. Why isn't he characterised as out there drinking from a jug with XXXX on it, and beating up on Chromia? If Tracks had been established as gay, I would not have a problem with a couple of jokes or references, since there are jokes and references about just about all the characters. But a) once again, he's not, and we know that<nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>, but it seems that you're prepared to perpetuate a myth (and, frankly, look stupid, like you didn't actually know that he wasn't) for the purposes of a cheap laugh, and b) if he was, is that all you can come up with to write about him? Several paragraphs about him being gay. Devastator's entire introduction isn't that long. (G1) Optimus Prime's introduction isn't that long. Ultimately the reason this article is such a problem is that it is uncharacteristic of the site. it doesn't fit in because you don't go on and on and on for paragraphs about every character's most obvious characteristic. You've singled out the 'gay' one. Where's the phallus jokes about Perceptor? Where are the racial analogies directed at the Predacons or the Constructicons? They're the same color you know, and they stick together. Literally. Come on, I dare you. I'm totally disappointed, not even a single thing about the location of the G1 Megatron toy's trigger in bot mode. And BTW, I did say that I found it funny for the first line or so, but after that it was just completely pointless and unnecessary. We get it, you think he's gay, geez, move on with your life. You know what they say - if you obsess about it, you probably are one. (And that comes from one.) I'm not asking for special treatment here, just that you give Tracks the same rights, consideration and respect you would give any other character - however little that may be. (You're not the only one who can play the analogy). Okay, great, now you made me go on and on....[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 17:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Oy gewahlt, 59.167.133.165 (Too long, imma call you Leader-1). First of all, Leader-1, nobody wrote paragraphs about Tracks being gay. Tracks is, in fact, not gay. He is a robot, with no evidence of sexuality at all, and a fairly antisocial robot at that. However, as I said way up there, his personality as given in the Universe profile, coupled with his cartoon voice, and a bunch of amusing coincidences, have led to harmless little jokes like this. Nobody actually thinks he's homosexual. This article tries to emulate the Tracks we know by being a straightforward recitation of his bio notes, with a bunch of unfortunate and, dare we say, mildly amusing double-entendres. You, Leader-1, do admit you found it funny for the first line. Well, some of us don't just want a short, sly joke, and that seems to include most people who read this. Now, as for fairness, I don't think anybody escapes the Deadly Snarkage around here. I suggest clicking "Random Page" a bunch of times and reading some more of the bios. All right, Leader-1? Can we all be friends, and can we less-dignified groundlings continue to have our fun?--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::: I'm sorry 59.167.133.165, I must be missing something... you say Tracks isn't gay and we know that... how?
:::::::: Was there some Japanese re-release that listed his function as muffler-diver? Did he have a girlfriend? (Not that that's necessarily a disquaifier, as the West Coast Avengers' Living Lightning prooves...)
:::::::: Or are you one of those gaycists who insists that any character without a sexuality established to the contrary is straight?
:::::::: I am not necessarily arguing that Tracks ''is'' gay, but the tone of your arguments is really bothering me. You begin with the slurs against southerners that '''don't''' match Ironhide's exhibited behavior, and then object to the jokes that '''are''' based on Tracks exhibited behavior. So provide a source. What are you basing your Tracks-is-straight statements on? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::Hmm, yeah, just what I expected outta you. I think I was right the first time about the word "juvenile". You actually don't see how anyone could have an issue with the sheer volume in this article, do you? That's just the kind of person who should work as an editor.[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 17:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::''just what I expected outta you?'' That's pretty fucking rude 59.167.133.165, coming from an anonymous poster. So was it 'what you expected' to be asked to cite some sources and form an actual counter-argument beyond 'I don't like it'? And what do you mean 'should work as an editor'? This is a ''wiki''. We're ''all'' editors jackass. I'm a lowest-rank registered user (And one that spends much of his time baiting the admins to boot.) You seem to believe that when a bunch of people disagree with you it's because they're a cabal of close-knit friends acting as a group to quash all other opinions.
::::::::::Stop to consider, just for a moment, that it's possible that the ''reason'' large numbers of people are disagreeing with you is because... they actually ''do'' disagree with you.
::::::::::You want the article changed? '''So change it'''. It's a stub! The entire fiction section is 3 sentences! Rewrite the entire article whole-cloth as a nice, serious '''comprehensive''' history of the character! We mess with stubs because it's fun and inconsequential-- they're just stubs after all! We don't play around with comprehensive model-articles, because it reduces their level of uninformativeness.
::::::::::Or maybe you just don't '''want''' to document Tracks' major appearances because they involve him hanging aroung with a guy who, a dance club and being the victim of a hate-crime by Grimlock in his full-on incorrigible football-hooligan mode. (Which probably ''was'' a black-humored gay joke-- Furman once made a reference to Carmen Curlers's after all, he's not clueless.) Which is it, and have you stopped beating your wife?
:::::::::: Maybe the reason ''I'm'' stubbornly disagreeing with you (beyond my normal contrariness) is because you're demanding that others alter the article to meet your way of thinking instead of altering and improving it ''yourself'' to better serve ''everyone's'' purpose. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::As a gay knee-jerk liberal (and overeducated jampot) I would like to volunteer that I find the Tracks article funny.
:::::::And frankly, I'm offended by 59.167.133.165's attempts to remove all references to homosexuality from the wiki. Clearly he is a gay-racist and a deaf discriminator. I will sue him. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::::The one valid point Leader-1 might have here is that the predatory stuff was a bit much. Of course, it was also rather funny, but after some thought I cooked up a substitute that isn't too bland. Of course if we don't let any group get offended we are going to have to take out pretty much [[Outback (G1)|half this Wiki]], blandify everything else, and delete every reference to ''[[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]''. :) To Leader-1 the bold IP address, I would like to say that I am rather more amused than offended, especially by your implication that Southerners are all drunks who beat their wives.

:::::::::Derik: I hardly think it is reasonable to get pissed at Mr. IP Address for not attempting to edit the article himself, as he probably assumed -- quite correctly -- that any edit that removed the gay jokes would be instantly reverted. I'd say attempting to discuss the matter first on the talk page was actually the correct course of action.

:::::::::Anyway, Autobus Prime took out the line about Tracks "striking forcefully from behind" when he his enemies are "unaware," and then Dark T Zeratul put it back in. I'm going to take it back out again, and hope it stays out, as after all the joke is supposed to be that Tracks is gay, not that he's a rapist. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::::::Yes, gay jokes are one thing, rape ones are another altogether. I'm not overly fond of all the gay jokes here (some of them simply because they're not exactly fresh), but even with the innuendo, the actual facts of each sentence are clear. I don't think that this should be a super-dry po-faced encyclopaedia, but I think the most important is that a reader does learn what she or he didn't know about the subject afore. I think this article manages that. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 10:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

==Red Euro version==
The latest edit [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tracks&curid=1638&diff=30142&oldid=30141] claims that Tracks was released a second time (in blue) in Europe "due to poor sales". Is there any actual evidence for that? It sounds like fan supposition. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds like a question suited for Maz more than anyone else.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
::I put in a reference to the relevant article by Maz. - [[User:Ducktimus|Ducktimus]] 04:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Blue Euro Tracks: [http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/669/autobotcartracks01bk8.jpg Image 1], [http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1702/autobotcartracks02ae7.jpg image 2], [http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9867/autobotcartracks03rx1.jpg image 3]. Tracks is the only G1 toy other than Optimus Prime who I was able to find evidence for both an "MB" and a "Hasbro" release in Europe. Add to that the fact that blue Tracks is the only Autobot Car in Euro-Hasbro packaging to use 1985 back-of-the-box art rather than the 1986 mural used by the other Euro-Hasbrobots from 1986, it would seem that he was the first one to go into production.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
::::''Adding to the mystery is the fact that Tracks was released in the US with a 1984 back-of-the-box mural, despite being a 1985 release.'' [http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/ToysTracksMIB.html DEBUNKED]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know who just added that last line, but it's damn near perfect.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
==Yes/No==
Foppish yes,gay no.Not exactly butch though,that's for sure. As for the sex issue,why would mechanoids need to have genders,since their Quintesson masters don't show any overtly sexual characteristics either.[[User:ChoHIlqoq|ChoHIlqoq]] 01:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:And yet they do, since [[Female Transformers]] exist. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

So he's metrosexual. [[User:70.59.197.234|70.59.197.234]] 21:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

==unofficial, more G1 transformation?==
is it worth noting that RTS Tracks' back kibble can be folded up with the clip-on weapons extended out to resemble his G1 version more closely? [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 19:29, 29 January 2011 (EST)

==Can we get rid of the pointless gay jokes in the intro?==
Please? There's really no reason to have it be like that anymore - those jokes may have been funny back in 2006, but they just come off as "ha ha effeminate = gay = funny" in 2016. It's puerile and stupid. Most of the rest of the article, as far as I saw, seems fine; even the gay jokes in the captions and such aren't really denigrating in that "ha ha gays funny" way the intro is. [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] ([[User talk:Jeddostotle7|talk]]) 20:49, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Tracks (G1)

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Jeddostotle7:

What's the source of this Tracks quote? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
:Heck if I know. A google search brought up nothing, so I've removed it until we can source it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:29, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
::[http://www.allspark.com/interviews/michael-mcconnohie-audio-interview-20050211.html Heh.] -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Direct to eBay exclusive?

That's a joke, based on the rarity of Alt. Tracks. [[User:202.7.183.131|202.7.183.131]] 04:34, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

What about a Gay Transformers Catagory? There's probably enough to warrent one, Shockfleet, BWII Starscream, BB etc. etc. [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:47, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

But Tracks isn't gay...I mean, TFs don't have sex anyway. Maybe my bio notes of his massive powers and handsome styling were unclear...*confused* [[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 20:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:Categorically, NO! There is no official basis for "gay" Transformers, and the topic is beyond the appropriate purpose of this Wiki.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC) (P.S. The reference to Raul doesn't belong in the main bio, either. It belongs in the "Animated Continuity" section.)
::Point conceded. I blame a.t.t. for warping my mind... --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 21:24, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Frankly I think all the of innuendo in that bio should be removed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::Aw. I'm a *huge* fan of it. And it's technically not breaking any rules... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:34, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::The problem I have is that "gay Tracks" is a fandom construct. I am certainly guilty of using the concept to make jokes, but the character doesn't actually ever demonstrate romantic interest in other male characters. A page full innuendo to that effect stikes me as misleading. But, that's just my opinion. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
::::::See, the entry is no more gay than Tracks is. He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::::::I'm not too concerned about what's there. If it's not clearly a fan-construct, I'll not raise a huge fuss. But it is indeed full of innuendo that may not be appropriate. For example:

:::::::"well-endowed with a sleek, muscular, and tastefully decorated..."
:::::::"He is able to launch two flaming incendiary missiles from long and durable launcher tubes."
:::::::"embracing his enemies in darkness, unaware of the Autobot until he strikes from behind, and leaves them moaning on the cold ground!"
:::::::"Tracks can also fly like a butterfly by deploying his secret, hidden wings from their protective closet."

:::::::You get the idea. Technically accurate, but purposedly written in such a way as to play up the "gayness" of it all. I don't think it's cool.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 00:02, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::I am confused by this statement: "He's never said to be, but he sure acts like it. In that way, this write-up is completely accurate." I don't understand how it's accurate to say that Tracks acts like he's gay. Here, as before, I am defining gay as demonstrating a romantic interest in characters that share his gender. Tracks doesn't do that. Hell, I think there's a better case to be made that Red Alert and Sandstorm are gay than Tracks is, depending on how one interprets their feelings for Inferno and Octane, respectively. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::You're quite right, of course;in fact, since Tracksy can't get along with his buddies, he has even less opportunity to show any kind of affection for them than Optimus Prime, and nobody every accused Prime of towing dual trailers. I also know very well that Tracks' voice actor (I'm not good with their names) was trying to portray him as an Ivy League snob. The trouble is that this conspires with his Bud-given personality to rather comic effect, and lends him a certain poncy air...and that was what I was trying to portray in the bio. I think.--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::::::As a gay Transformers fan, I have to say the whole intro/bio thing bothers me. It was funny for the first line or so, and then it became like an episode of "Are You Being Served" - tired, unnecessary, distracting from the actual information, and makes me want to stab you in the eye with Convoy's smokestacks. You managed to fill several paragraphs with gay innuendo loosely anchored by actual facts about the character - congratulations. Now how about writing it properly? It is a) unwarranted, since Tracks has already been established as 'not gay', and even if he was, b) it invokes unfair stereotypes, such as predatory sexual behaviour. So you're perpetuating two myths; one about Tracks and one about gays. Why not keep that whole blue Bluestreak figure myth thing going while you're at it? I don't see you putting lines into every "straight", "male" Transformer's bio about wanting to "something" their "something" with Arcee. Bottom line: grow up; if you want to be taken seriously as a Transformers resource, act like it.[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 16:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I was going to ask who decided it was a good idea to hijack Tracks' page and transform- oh I'm sorry, convert it into a walking pack of sex innuendos, but I see this is actually an ongoing debate, as old as the Wiki itself.
If I may throw in my two cents' worth, it was funny the first time, in a 'Dafuq did I just read' sort of way, but seeing it every time I go on the page has become a little annoying. It feels like the jokes are getting in the way of the information a little, and the way some of it reads is plain stupid. I think if I hadn't previously read the 'proper' version of his write-up, I would be super confused, and even as it is, the article implies that he's some sort of sex maniac [[Rattrap_(BW)|who likes making inappropriate jokes]].
Just my two cents! [[User:Poteto-Man|Poteto-Man]] ([[User talk:Poteto-Man|talk]]) 21:22, 13 January 2016 (EST)
:I struggle to see how this is an "ongoing" argument when nothing has posted on this talk page for four years.-[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 22:06, 13 January 2016 (EST)

==Gay jokes==

I don't have a problem with allusions to Tracks' fan-constructed homosexuality, but I think that the number of references in the bio has reached and surpassed the saturation point. Also, the fact that this Transformers Wiki is so easily found in a google search recommends that any gay jokes be kept to a tasteful minimum. We have to remember that Transformers is a toy line aimed primarily at children, and as such, the potential audience must be considered. As it stands, there are 14 references and double entendres in the 4 paragraphs that make up the largest part of the bio. This is a serious issue. (Kizudarake on the Allspark)

:I'm not sure how any kid who doesn't or shouldn't know what this stuff means would even realize it's innuendo in the first place. Innuendo only works if you're already in on the joke. What five-year-old who doesn't understand that "shaft" is a euphemism for "penis" is going to stumble across this page and realize, "Oh, hey, this article is about gay sex!" This is not a serious issue. Certainly not on a wiki with ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' of all things included. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::But the "Mommy, what's this word mean?" effect can cause some serious problems, and complaints.(Kizudarake from The Allspark)
:::I'll say. Like why isn't the kid's online activity being monitored more closely? At any rate, the proper way to go about this, after having your changes reverted like 30 times, and being told 30 times to cut it out, is clearly not to do it again just now as we're having this discussion. How many times do you have to be told? Take a vacation! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:::Agreed. It's not the Wiki's job to account for lazy parenting. [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 06:43, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:I'm really not understanding your comment that "this is a serious issue". The innuendo will go over the head of anybody that doesn't already know that gay people exist. If a parent gets upset that their child read something that acknowledges the existence of gay people, then that's too bad. It's to the kid's benefit and the parent is a moron. If you are worried about the effect these jokes will have, you are welcome to disavow your involvement with this Wiki, which is easy because, you know, you ''have'' no involvement at all with this Wiki anyway except for having a weird issue with one particular article. The article's not going to change and it's not your problem. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 18:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::I think what it comes down to is how the TF Wiki wants to be taken. If it wants to be taken seriously, the Tracks article needs to be re-written to a more "professional" standard. However as is the Wiki is largely humorous, and as such the Tracks article is mostly fine, although some of the jokes are stupid. The downside is that it somewhat compromises the integrity of the Wiki. --Debbie Downer
:::AFAIK, we do have a syste of review for such jokes- and the standard we use is- 'if the jokes get in the way of delivering the information, they have to go.' But hand-in-hand with that we have 'please don't make this joyless.' Have you seen [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie's]] entry? That is ''beautiful''. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::: "Professional"? You mean like Wikipedia? Absurdly solemn, extraordinarily opinionated despite a facade of gormless neutrality, unreliable on anything remotely political, and totally boring? We definitely want to keep our distance from that. Part of our mission here is to poke holes in the more inflatable fans, and the humor is quite useful for that, and the other part is to be the Hitchhiker's Guide To Transformers. We don't want to be the Encyclopedia Galactica. (N.B. I mean no disrespect to the great idea behind Wikipedia, but too many of their editors are only interested in grinding their personal axes. It's great for a lot of stuff, but unfortunately fails utterly at anything in the field of sociology, or as I said, anything political. But their 'neutrality' has very little to do with the accuracy or lack thereof of each article. Give me humor with accuracy over solemn half-truths any day.) --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 13:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::: And our info goes into more detail, anyway, compared to the regular TF wikipedia. I mean we talk about toys. TOYS! Alot of people act as though toys hardly matter in Transformers. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:50, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::Re: joyless, I suggest you examine who is actually getting the joy; whether you are just entertaining yourself, or the visitors themselves are actually being delighted and amused by it, because I think you might be giggling your rear-end assembly off in a room full of crickets chirping. If the former, I recommend you find better ways of getting your various jollies. BTW, "taken seriously" in terms of readers believing the stuff posted here, not "Mr Boring". You can be be an authorative source without being dull and uninteresting. But with crap like this, why would we believe anything posted in this wiki? You're obviously just putting up whatever junk you feel like. The opposite of "absurdly solemn" doesn't need to be "pointlessly juvenile". You've already accomplished integration of some clever writing style in many articles, as well as funny captions to pictures. Then there's this. Be clever, don't be a joke. It's a real turnoff.[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 17:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Totally entertaining myself, of course. A would-be joker must be prepared to be the only one to laugh, sometimes. True enough that there are other alternatives to absurd solemnity, but I don't think the TF-Wiki approach is pointlessly juvenile. I prefer to think of it as slyly sophomoric. Besides, even Shakespeare had his share of cheap jokes and lowbrow humor. And besides besides that, I really think that we all respect viewpoints more if we know who is expressing them, regretable as this feeling may be in its lack of objectivity. (Besides x3 that, this particular article seems to amuse one or two people, which I can't really understand, since it's a straightforward presentation of his tech spec bio. Oh well.) --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::Political correctness sucks. Thanks alot, America. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::Political correctness nothing. How about even-handed accuracy? G1 Ironhide's clearly Southern. Why isn't he characterised as out there drinking from a jug with XXXX on it, and beating up on Chromia? If Tracks had been established as gay, I would not have a problem with a couple of jokes or references, since there are jokes and references about just about all the characters. But a) once again, he's not, and we know that<nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki>, but it seems that you're prepared to perpetuate a myth (and, frankly, look stupid, like you didn't actually know that he wasn't) for the purposes of a cheap laugh, and b) if he was, is that all you can come up with to write about him? Several paragraphs about him being gay. Devastator's entire introduction isn't that long. (G1) Optimus Prime's introduction isn't that long. Ultimately the reason this article is such a problem is that it is uncharacteristic of the site. it doesn't fit in because you don't go on and on and on for paragraphs about every character's most obvious characteristic. You've singled out the 'gay' one. Where's the phallus jokes about Perceptor? Where are the racial analogies directed at the Predacons or the Constructicons? They're the same color you know, and they stick together. Literally. Come on, I dare you. I'm totally disappointed, not even a single thing about the location of the G1 Megatron toy's trigger in bot mode. And BTW, I did say that I found it funny for the first line or so, but after that it was just completely pointless and unnecessary. We get it, you think he's gay, geez, move on with your life. You know what they say - if you obsess about it, you probably are one. (And that comes from one.) I'm not asking for special treatment here, just that you give Tracks the same rights, consideration and respect you would give any other character - however little that may be. (You're not the only one who can play the analogy). Okay, great, now you made me go on and on....[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 17:21, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Oy gewahlt, 59.167.133.165 (Too long, imma call you Leader-1). First of all, Leader-1, nobody wrote paragraphs about Tracks being gay. Tracks is, in fact, not gay. He is a robot, with no evidence of sexuality at all, and a fairly antisocial robot at that. However, as I said way up there, his personality as given in the Universe profile, coupled with his cartoon voice, and a bunch of amusing coincidences, have led to harmless little jokes like this. Nobody actually thinks he's homosexual. This article tries to emulate the Tracks we know by being a straightforward recitation of his bio notes, with a bunch of unfortunate and, dare we say, mildly amusing double-entendres. You, Leader-1, do admit you found it funny for the first line. Well, some of us don't just want a short, sly joke, and that seems to include most people who read this. Now, as for fairness, I don't think anybody escapes the Deadly Snarkage around here. I suggest clicking "Random Page" a bunch of times and reading some more of the bios. All right, Leader-1? Can we all be friends, and can we less-dignified groundlings continue to have our fun?--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 17:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::: I'm sorry 59.167.133.165, I must be missing something... you say Tracks isn't gay and we know that... how?
:::::::: Was there some Japanese re-release that listed his function as muffler-diver? Did he have a girlfriend? (Not that that's necessarily a disquaifier, as the West Coast Avengers' Living Lightning prooves...)
:::::::: Or are you one of those gaycists who insists that any character without a sexuality established to the contrary is straight?
:::::::: I am not necessarily arguing that Tracks ''is'' gay, but the tone of your arguments is really bothering me. You begin with the slurs against southerners that '''don't''' match Ironhide's exhibited behavior, and then object to the jokes that '''are''' based on Tracks exhibited behavior. So provide a source. What are you basing your Tracks-is-straight statements on? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::::Hmm, yeah, just what I expected outta you. I think I was right the first time about the word "juvenile". You actually don't see how anyone could have an issue with the sheer volume in this article, do you? That's just the kind of person who should work as an editor.[[User:59.167.133.165|59.167.133.165]] 17:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::''just what I expected outta you?'' That's pretty fucking rude 59.167.133.165, coming from an anonymous poster. So was it 'what you expected' to be asked to cite some sources and form an actual counter-argument beyond 'I don't like it'? And what do you mean 'should work as an editor'? This is a ''wiki''. We're ''all'' editors jackass. I'm a lowest-rank registered user (And one that spends much of his time baiting the admins to boot.) You seem to believe that when a bunch of people disagree with you it's because they're a cabal of close-knit friends acting as a group to quash all other opinions.
::::::::::Stop to consider, just for a moment, that it's possible that the ''reason'' large numbers of people are disagreeing with you is because... they actually ''do'' disagree with you.
::::::::::You want the article changed? '''So change it'''. It's a stub! The entire fiction section is 3 sentences! Rewrite the entire article whole-cloth as a nice, serious '''comprehensive''' history of the character! We mess with stubs because it's fun and inconsequential-- they're just stubs after all! We don't play around with comprehensive model-articles, because it reduces their level of uninformativeness.
::::::::::Or maybe you just don't '''want''' to document Tracks' major appearances because they involve him hanging aroung with a guy who, a dance club and being the victim of a hate-crime by Grimlock in his full-on incorrigible football-hooligan mode. (Which probably ''was'' a black-humored gay joke-- Furman once made a reference to Carmen Curlers's after all, he's not clueless.) Which is it, and have you stopped beating your wife?
:::::::::: Maybe the reason ''I'm'' stubbornly disagreeing with you (beyond my normal contrariness) is because you're demanding that others alter the article to meet your way of thinking instead of altering and improving it ''yourself'' to better serve ''everyone's'' purpose. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

:::::::As a gay knee-jerk liberal (and overeducated jampot) I would like to volunteer that I find the Tracks article funny.
:::::::And frankly, I'm offended by 59.167.133.165's attempts to remove all references to homosexuality from the wiki. Clearly he is a gay-racist and a deaf discriminator. I will sue him. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:14, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::::The one valid point Leader-1 might have here is that the predatory stuff was a bit much. Of course, it was also rather funny, but after some thought I cooked up a substitute that isn't too bland. Of course if we don't let any group get offended we are going to have to take out pretty much [[Outback (G1)|half this Wiki]], blandify everything else, and delete every reference to ''[[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]''. :) To Leader-1 the bold IP address, I would like to say that I am rather more amused than offended, especially by your implication that Southerners are all drunks who beat their wives.

:::::::::Derik: I hardly think it is reasonable to get pissed at Mr. IP Address for not attempting to edit the article himself, as he probably assumed -- quite correctly -- that any edit that removed the gay jokes would be instantly reverted. I'd say attempting to discuss the matter first on the talk page was actually the correct course of action.

:::::::::Anyway, Autobus Prime took out the line about Tracks "striking forcefully from behind" when he his enemies are "unaware," and then Dark T Zeratul put it back in. I'm going to take it back out again, and hope it stays out, as after all the joke is supposed to be that Tracks is gay, not that he's a rapist. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

::::::::::Yes, gay jokes are one thing, rape ones are another altogether. I'm not overly fond of all the gay jokes here (some of them simply because they're not exactly fresh), but even with the innuendo, the actual facts of each sentence are clear. I don't think that this should be a super-dry po-faced encyclopaedia, but I think the most important is that a reader does learn what she or he didn't know about the subject afore. I think this article manages that. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 10:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

==Red Euro version==
The latest edit [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Tracks&curid=1638&diff=30142&oldid=30141] claims that Tracks was released a second time (in blue) in Europe "due to poor sales". Is there any actual evidence for that? It sounds like fan supposition. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
:Sounds like a question suited for Maz more than anyone else.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
::I put in a reference to the relevant article by Maz. - [[User:Ducktimus|Ducktimus]] 04:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Blue Euro Tracks: [http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/669/autobotcartracks01bk8.jpg Image 1], [http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1702/autobotcartracks02ae7.jpg image 2], [http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9867/autobotcartracks03rx1.jpg image 3]. Tracks is the only G1 toy other than Optimus Prime who I was able to find evidence for both an "MB" and a "Hasbro" release in Europe. Add to that the fact that blue Tracks is the only Autobot Car in Euro-Hasbro packaging to use 1985 back-of-the-box art rather than the 1986 mural used by the other Euro-Hasbrobots from 1986, it would seem that he was the first one to go into production.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
::::''Adding to the mystery is the fact that Tracks was released in the US with a 1984 back-of-the-box mural, despite being a 1985 release.'' [http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/ToysTracksMIB.html DEBUNKED]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 21:56, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't know who just added that last line, but it's damn near perfect.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:34, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
==Yes/No==
Foppish yes,gay no.Not exactly butch though,that's for sure. As for the sex issue,why would mechanoids need to have genders,since their Quintesson masters don't show any overtly sexual characteristics either.[[User:ChoHIlqoq|ChoHIlqoq]] 01:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:And yet they do, since [[Female Transformers]] exist. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

So he's metrosexual. [[User:70.59.197.234|70.59.197.234]] 21:06, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

==unofficial, more G1 transformation?==
is it worth noting that RTS Tracks' back kibble can be folded up with the clip-on weapons extended out to resemble his G1 version more closely? [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 19:29, 29 January 2011 (EST)

==Can we get rid of the pointless gay jokes in the intro?==
Please? There's really no reason to have it be like that anymore - those jokes may have been funny back in 2006, but they just come off as "ha ha effeminate = gay = funny" in 2016. It's puerile and stupid. Most of the rest of the article, as far as I saw, seems fine; even the gay jokes in there aren't really that denigrating in that "ha ha gays funny" way the intro is. [[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] ([[User talk:Jeddostotle7|talk]]) 20:49, 19 July 2016 (EDT)

Bruticus (G1)

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:''Bruticus is a [[Decepticon]] [[combiner]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Bruticusg1guido.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''They all combine and kick Superion's behind'' ''As the big, bad, battlin' Bruticus!'']]
'''Bruticus''' is the combined form of the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] team. A terrifying sight on the battlefield, Bruticus is among the strongest of all Transformers. He can pulverize a suspension bridge with a single 14,000 psi punch. He can lift up to 500,000 pounds. His armor is impervious to most artillery and radiation.

He's also dumb as a sack of hammers. But as far as Decepticon combiners go, that's [[Devastator (G1)|not]] [[Menasor (G1)|a]] [[Abominus (G1)|problem]]. In fact, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] wishes that he had an army of Bruticuses, and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] is thankful that he doesn't.

Bruticus is composed of:

*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (leader)
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]
*[[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]
*[[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]]
*[[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]]

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Roger C. Carmel]] (English), [[Yū Shimaka|Yutaka Shimaka]] (Japanese) |[[Edgar Wald]] (Spanish), [[Thomas Rau]] (German, "Fight or Flee", "The Burden Hardest to Bear"), [[Thomas Albus]] (German, ''Generation 2'' "Starscream's Brigade", "The Revenge of Bruticus"), [[Willy Schäfer]] (German, ''Generation 2'', "Fight or Flee")}}

[[File:Bruticus cartoon.jpg|left|135px|thumb|"Bruticus crush... Bruticus destroy human who draw Bruticus wrong!"]]
Bruticus became active for the first time during a battle between [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s rogue Decepticon brigade and Megatron's forces. Anticipating [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s expected moves, he waited for his former leader to order the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] to merge into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. Starscream then unleashed his surprise—he similarly ordered the Combaticons to form the mighty Bruticus. Though extremely low in intelligence, even by the standards of combined robots, he was also extremely powerful, easily defeating Devastator and sending the remaining Decepticons loyal to Megatron into retreat. Unfortunately, the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] arrived and formed [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], who launched an attack from behind, quickly subduing Bruticus. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}

[[File:Revenge of bruticus 2 threratenShockwave.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|"Bruticus want be drawn proper!"]]
Starscream and the Combaticons were banished from [[Earth]] on an asteroid, and the group quickly had a falling-out. After Starscream left, the Combaticons attacked [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], easily defeating [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and his drones. Thirsting for revenge, the Combaticons reprogrammed the [[space bridge]] to pull Earth closer to the Sun, in the hopes of destroying it and every Transformer there. The Autobots and Decepticons temporarily joined forces to retake Cybertron and prevent Earth's destruction, and with Starscream's help, they deactivated the Combaticons once they formed Bruticus through a failsafe device built into the treacherous giant's back. [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and Megatron agreed that Bruticus must be destroyed, but the Decepticon leader fooled the Autobots by using Shockwave's holographic simulator to make it appear as though Bruticus was destroyed, when in reality the combiner was reprogrammed to be loyal only to Megatron. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}}

[[File:Revenge of bruticus 16 brains.jpg|left|135px|thumb|"See! Bruticus head not empty!"]]
Soon afterwards, during Megatron's latest scheme on Earth involving the theft of fighter aircraft using Middle-Eastern criminals, the Combaticons were called into service to defend Megatron's [[Giant Purple Griffin]], a large... thing that apparently pumped oil. Or something. Struggling against the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], the Combaticons formed Bruticus, yet were still knocked over when the Autobot planes twisted a tow cable around his legs. The Decepticon combiner was finally defeated when the Aerialbots ignited the nearby oil wells, causing a massive explosion that sent Megatron, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and Bruticus flying away. {{storylink|Aerial Assault}}

Later, Bruticus was walking down the street, minding his own business (i.e. attacking a human city) when BAM! Bruticus was destroyed in battle with [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (man, this guy can't seem to catch a break). Only Swindle survived, and he sold the remains of his comrades to various mercenaries and [[El Presidente|third-world dictator-types]], only to be forced to locate and rebuild the Combaticons by Megatron. The reformed Bruticus was then defeated when Megatron's [[orbit disruptor cannon]] was overloaded by the human-built [[B.O.T. (G1)|B.O.T.]], once again sending the Decepticon flying into the sky. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

[[File:Bruticus punch planebot.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|"Bruticus punch planebot so hard, make artist draw all over cel!"]]
For some reason, in the year 2006 the Combaticons were idly hanging around as Bruticus during the Decepticon occupation of [[Paradron]]. He served as something of a comic foil for [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]], acting as straight-man while Galvatron delivered witticisms that were completely lost on the giant warrior. Also... that old line about "losing your head if you weren't attached to it"? Apparently, you can lose a foot even if it was attached, because [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] was seen manning a molecular cannon while Bruticus was in the control room with Galvatron. If you don't watch those feet, they just run right off on their own. {{storylink|Fight or Flee (episode)|Fight or Flee}}

During a Decepticon invasion of Japan, Bruticus was battling Defensor near a dojo. He enraged his opponent by negligently putting the humans in danger with their combat and, once [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] arrived to back up Defensor, Bruticus split into the individual Combaticons and fled. {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}}

Invading [[Gregory Swofford|Swofford]] and [[Mark Morgan|Morgan]]'s lab, Bruticus was the first Decepticon infected by the [[Hate Plague]]. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}
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=====''Wings Universe''=====
{{Wingsnote}}
Combination technology was something the [[Decepticon Warlord]] [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] had long tinkered with, since the days of his fortress in [[Gygax]]. Although his early experiments were discontinued thanks to the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Autobot Elite Guard]], he remained interested in the idea, and eventually found the perfect means to implement it. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 36|Bruticus's ''Wings Universe'' profile}}

When the Combaticons were swayed to joining forces with Deathsaurus they received various upgrades. They demonstrated the most potent of these upgrades when they were surrounded by their former comrades in the Elite Guard and combined into Bruticus. The combiner then proceeded to crush their former commanding officer Sentinel Major with one mighty hand. This prompted the other Elite Guardsmen to attack in search of vengeance. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 5}}

Tragically for the Guard, Bruticus proved to be virtually unstoppable and easily wiped out several of the Elite Guard teams before [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]]'s Strike Team arrived. Despite the heroic efforts of [[Ironfist (G1)|Ironfist]] and [[Over-Run (G1)|Over-Run]], Bruticus quickly slew them before [[Dion]] managed to blind the mighty combiner and force him to separate. This forced the Combaticons to retreat, but not before killng Metalhawk as well. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 6}}

The Combaticons underwent repairs at Deathsaurus's base, but shocked to learn that the repairs included a remote activation for their combination into Bruticus. The combiner, confused and still blinded from his battle, lashed out at the Constructicons repairing him, and they were forced to use the override they'd fitted to stop the giant in his tracks. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 1}} {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} During the battle to defend the base against the Elite Guard, the Combaticons again attempted to form Bruticus, only to be promptly blasted. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

====Japanese cartoon continuity====
=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' manga=====
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=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' story pages=====
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=====''The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers'' manga=====
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=====Scramble City=====
{{voiceactor|[[Yū Shimaka]] (Japanese)}}

[[File:SCcelMenSupBrut.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Et tu, Bruticus?]]
In 1986, the Autobots and their human allies worked diligently on their "Scramble City" project, a giant mobile fortress. Several Decepticons under the command of Starscream were dispatched to attack the secret construction site, but were defeated by the Aerialbots. Due to Starscream's failure to stop the Aerialbots, the Stunticons were quickly sent in, and soon in the battle formed Menasor. Menasor managed to corrupt Superion's formation by shooting one of ''his own'' limbs onto his opponent, rendering Superion vulnerable. However, he was soon stopped, and Superion regained his balance. Eventually, the Combaticons came in to help Menasor (though not willingly), forming Bruticus. The two tag-teamed against Superion, but were both stopped when [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City itself]] was brought into battle to end the conflict. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}
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=====''The Great Transformer War'' manga=====
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=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
{{voiceactor|[[Michitaka Kobayashi]] (Japanese), [[Ryōichi Tanaka]] (Japanese, ep 13)}}

[[File:HeadOn RaidenVsBruticus.JPG|left|upright=1.1|thumb|"Bruticus duel with light... poles."]]
Bruticus joined up with several other Decepticon combiners during a Decepticon assault on Cybertron, {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} but they were all driven away by [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} When the Combaticons were sent out to stop [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] from finding the [[Matrix of Leadership]], they clashed with the Protectobots again. Both teams combined, but Defensor eventually blasted the mountain behind Bruticus, who was buried in the ensuing rockfall. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}} While defending [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] against intruders, the Combaticons formed Bruticus to fight back against the incoming [[Superion (G1)|Superion]]. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}

Bruticus scuffled with Defensor yet again during a new attack on Cybertron, {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} but was defeated by a flying punch to the neck. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}} Next up, Bruticus was set with ambushing any Autobots who came to stop [[buridanka|a giant carnivorous plant]] planted by the Decepticons in [[San Francisco]]. When the [[Trainbot]]s arrived, Bruticus and [[Raiden (Headmasters)|Raiden]] did battle with energy swords. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}}

Bruticus was formed by the Combaticons as part of Sixshot's major strike on Earth. He attacked an Autobot outpost as four other outposts were being assaulted simultaneously by the other Decepticons. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}}

On the planet [[Master (planet)|Master]], Bruticus later helped a group of Decepticons lead Fortress Maximus away from their base. {{storylink|The Zarak Shield Turns the Tide}} Later, back on Earth, he stood by and laughed as [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] sank the luxury liner ''[[Queen World]]'' off the coast of Lisbon, Portugal. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} Finally, Bruticus participated in the large-scale battle with the Autobots at the North Pole, and was seen holding down [[Computron (G1)|Computron]] so [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] could kick him. When [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s energy-absorbing satellite started tearing the Earth apart, Bruticus retreated into the atmosphere to watch the results alongside the rest of the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}

=====''Zone''=====
Over fifteen years later, after several more Decepticon leaders had come and gone, the faction came under the rulership of the supernatural entity [[Violen Jiger]]. This mysterious creature's first action was to recruit a team of [[Nine Great Demon Generals]] from Decepticon history; Bruticus was enlisted as his "Flame General" and outfitted with new armor and weaponry to make him even more powerful than before. The generals were charged with acquiring the two objects needed for Violen Jiger's ultimate goal: the Autobot super-fuel [[Energon Z]], and the enigmatic, life-giving energy source, the [[Zodiac]].

{{note|By the time of ''Zone'', Japanese cartoon continuity had already branched off in two similar but distinct directions a few years beforehand. One branch was depicted in the ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'', ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' and ''Zone'' animated series, while the other was told through their respective [[manga]] and [[story page]]s as published in ''[[TV Magazine]]''. As such, there are two discrete versions of the ''Zone'' story that both spin out of the cartoon timeline, detailed individually below.}}

======''Zone'' cartoon======
:''Voice actor:'' [[Yukimasa Kishino]] (Japanese)

Bruticus was selected by [[Violen Jiger]] as one of his Nine Great Demon Generals, given the rank of Flame General and rebuilt with more powerful armor and weaponry. However, he did jack squat with it; while he joined [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]], [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] and [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] on a raid for [[Energon Z]] on planet [[Micro|Zone]], he did not engage in battle at any time, though he was seen leaving with his comrades when the battle was over. {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}

======''Zone'' manga and story pages======
[[File:BruticusZone1.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|"Bruticus finally drawn right... with fire."]]
Seeking to create a [[Decepticon Zone]] to counter the [[Micro|Autobot Zone]], [[Emperor of Destruction|Decepticon Emperor]] [[Violen Jiger]] gathered together the [[Nine Great Demon Generals]], upgrading them with powerful new armor and weaponry, then sent them forth to conquer planets. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 1}}

Flame General Bruticus was the first to encounter the [[Autobot]]s when he attacked the planet [[Feminia]]. He was defeated by the combined might of the [[Rescue Patrol Team]], [[Super Car Patrol Team]], [[Battle Patrol|Battle Patrol Team]], [[Galaxy Rocket]] and [[Moonradar (Zone)|Moonradar]]. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 2}}

The Generals then united to attack planet Feminia once again, this time destroying it utterly. Violen Jiger next charged his Generals with collecting [[Energon Z]] and the all-powerful [[Zodiac]], which he intended to use to fuel his conquest. [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]], [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], Bruticus and [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] attacked planet Zone, defeating the Micromaster teams and stealing their Energon Z core. The Micromasters pursued them into space, only to be stopped by [[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]] and his energy web. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (manga)|Transformers: Zone}}

The Generals later schooled [[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] and the [[Metrosquad]] in the ways of evil, making them more than formidable foes for the Powered Masters. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 7}}
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===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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''In a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-induced vision, [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] saw the future, where Autobot and Decepticon [[Special Teams]] battled over Earth's resources. One such team was the Combaticons, who merged into the massive warrior, Bruticus. Unfortunately for the Autobots, [[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]] managed to tap into this induced dream, allowing the Decepticons to see the same possibilities the Autobots did. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}''

{{note|The implication, especially in the UK comics, is that Bruticus and the Combaticons were built on Earth by the Decepticons. They were presumably brought on-line with the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]]s using the same Matrix-tap device [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] used to activate the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]]. None of this was shown on-panel, however, and some contradictions do exist.}}

[[File:Bruticus-ukcard.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|"Where Bruticus helmet go?"]]
Megatron and the Combaticons invaded [[Energy Futures Industries]] with the intent of stealing the powerful [[hydrothermocline]]. Confronted by Optimus Prime and the Protectobots, Megatron attempted to prove the superiority of his forces by ordering them to combine into... Bruticus! His gloating was cut short, however, when the Protectobots demonstrated the equally impressive ability to combine into... [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]! Fortunately for all sides, the fleshling [[Ethan Zachary]] arrived with a solution that didn't involve Bruticus and Defensor going at it until the entire complex (and the hydrothermocline) was annihilated. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}}

The Combaticons formed Bruticus in a northern [[California]] railyard to battle the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], who subsequently formed [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]. The two soon battled to a standstill, as Bruticus's sonic stun gun proved no match for Defensor's force field, but the Decepticon eventually managed to topple his foe by smacking him around with an ''entire train''. Bruticus then noticed [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], who claimed to have left the [[Autobot]]s, and seemingly killed [[Sammy Wainwright|a child]] to prove it. Bruticus was so impressed that he didn't notice Blaster toppling a power line on him, blasting him into his component parts. {{storylink|Child's Play (issue)|Child's Play}}

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===The Special Teams===
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===''Transformers/G.I. Joe''===
Bruticus was created in [[1939]] as part of a plot by [[Destro]] and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] to overthrow their [[Cobra Commander|respective]] [[Megatron (G1)|leaders]]. A fusion of human and Cybertronian technology, Bruticus had no mind of his own, and was made only to follow his creators' orders. {{storylink|Wolves}} Later, when the combined forces of [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] and the Autobots were moving against [[Cobra]], Destro betrayed Starscream and activated Bruticus, ordering him to destroy everyone. Screaming that he hated everything and that he only wanted to "sleep again", Bruticus went on a wild rampage and caused an avalanche. As the giant swept aside any Autobot resistance, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] deduced that Bruticus was an artificial creation and wasn't really "alive" like the other Transformers. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] saw only one way to stop him—destroying the [[Matrix of Leadership]] that was connected to the lifeforce of all Transformers. On Prime's orders, [[Snake-Eyes]] let Bruticus smash the Matrix, causing a flash of light that destroyed the raging giant. {{storylink|The Iron Fist}}

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[File:BlackSunshine Bruticusdamaged.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|"Bruticus suntan lotion no work!"]]
Mighty Bruticus created from members of [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]. But then [[Optimus Prime (G1)|truckbot]] and [[Megatron (G1)|bossbot]] go away, thought killed, though not by Bruticus. Robots make [[Crisis Intervention Accord|deal]] which make Combaticons not work together. Bruticus not like deal, but components agree, forcing Bruticus to go to sleep... {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}} {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages}}

[[Starscream (G1)|Starbot]] later take components to [[Earth|fleshie world]]. Bruticus defeat puny Autobots, make Starbot compliment, Bruticus happy. But bi-polar Starbot call Bruticus stupid, make Bruticus sad. Components attack [[Ark (G1)|Autobot base]], and form Bruticus, but Autobots blow up base. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}} Starbot yell at Bruticus, but not Bruticus fault. Soon, Bruticus components damaged in battle by [[Sunstorm (G1)|Burning bot]], Starbot order components to form mighty Bruticus! Bruticus try to smash Burning bot, but Burning bot too fast. ARGH! Bruticus head blown up by [[Mini Vehicle|Little Bot]] [[Orion|spaceship]]! Bruticus go to sleep... {{storylink|Black Sunshine}}

[[File:RouteofAllEvil Bruticus.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"Give purse to BRUTICUS!"]]
Later, components training by fighting [[Sky Lynx (G1)|egobot]] when [[Predaking (G1)|strangebot]] interrupt. Components recognize danger, and form Mighty Bruticus! Strangebot attack Bruticus! Bruticus ANGRY! Bruticus try to stop strangebot guns, but strangebot use foot-gun to hurt Bruticus!

Coward Starbot fly away like coward. Strangebot, open wings like birdbot and chase, but Bruticus stop birdbot. Bruticus want birdbot to DIE! No! Stupid gun, broken! Birdbot hurt Bruticus again, and Bruticus go to sleep... {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

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===The Beast Within===
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===''Alternity''===
Bruticus, amongst others, was empowered by a higher-dimensional [[Megatron (G1)#Alternity|Megatron]] in order to be pitted against a higher-dimensional [[Optimus Prime (G1)#Alternity|Optimus Prime]]'s [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|avatar]] in a cross-dimensional "game full of death and suffering". {{storylink|To Die Game!}}

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===''Transformers: All Spark''===
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{{storylink|Another Episode, Part 1}} {{storylink|Another Episode, Part 2}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Mystery of Convoy''===
As [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] searched for the truth behind [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s death, he battled Bruticus in a game of death and suffering. {{storylink|Transformers: Mystery of Convoy}}
====''Mystery of Convoy'' strategy guide manga====
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{{storylink|Transformers (Mystery of Convoy)|Transformers (Mystery of Convoy) strategy guide comic}}

===''Transformers: The Headmasters''===
When the Decepticons captured some of the Autobots' greatest warriors, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and Bruticus stood guard over [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] on Cybertron. They were defeated and their prisoners were rescued by [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] and the other freed Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers: The Headmasters (video game)|Transformers: The Headmasters}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[File:Bruticus toy.jpg|130px|thumb|"Rargh... many transform Bruticus wrong... and blame Bruticus design..."]]
*'''Bruticus''' (Multi-pack, 1986, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-69'''

: Bruticus is formed from all five Combaticon toys. The four smaller Combaticons attach via sockets in Onslaught's shoulders and the bottom of his feet. Fists and feet pads attach onto the four limbs, and Bruticus is completed with a large chest plate and a helmet covering Onslaught's head. He wields Onslaught's [[sonic stun-gun]] in battle. The gun can also be stored on his backpack using two rectangular pegs which hold the gun in place via its targeting sight. As with all [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style [[combiner]] teams, his limbs can be rearranged into any slot of one's choosing.

: In most markets, only the individual Combaticons were released, and the [[giftset]] was only available in Japan and Italy.

: The individual Combaticons were re-released in various European markets as part of the "[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]" line in 1991, and a Bruticus giftset was reissued by [[TakaraTomy]] in Japan in 2009.

: This mold was redecoed and later retooled to make ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Operation Combination (toyline)|Operation Combination]]'' [[Battle Gaia (OC)|Battle Gaia]], and [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'']]/''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Bruticus/bruticus.htm More information on Bruticus at TFU.info]''
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===Generation 2===
[[File:G2bruticus.jpg|130px|thumb|"Bruticus feel... pretty?"]]
*'''Onslaught''' (1994)
*'''Blast Off''' (1994)
*'''Brawl''' (1994)
*'''Swindle''' (1994)
*'''Vortex''' (1994)

: During ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' in 1994, only the individual Combaticons were released. ''Generation 2'' Bruticus is a [[redeco]] of the original Bruticus toy, or more accurately, a redeco of the entire Combaticon team. Functionally, he is nearly identical to the original toy, other than being slightly enhanced by a missile launcher (the same launcher that came with Jazz and Sideswipe) and a post-hole in Onslaught's backpack which allows the launcher to be stored there.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1994/Decepticon/Bruticus/bruticus.htm More information on ''Generation 2'' Bruticus at TFU.info]''

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[[File:G2toy-BruticusAmazon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"You all laugh when Bruticus wear these colors before. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!?"]]
*'''Bruticus''' (Box set, 2012)
**''Accessories'': Sonic Cannon

: This version of Bruticus comes as a gift set, [[exclusive]] to [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] and [[BigBadToyStore]]. Packaged in a ''Generation 2''-styled box complete with hand-painted character art, it contains [[redeco]]es of all five ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]] [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'' [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticons]] in their Generation 1 doppelgangers' ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' colors, complete with with ''Generation 2'' Decepticon insignia.

: Preorders for the set began on [[July 6]] of 2012 via Amazon (BigBadToyStore would not put up theirs until much later), and the final product was shipped out in early/mid-November. This may be considered a tie-in to Amazon's preorder bonus for the game: a "''Generation 2''"-themed skin for Bruticus. This set was also available at normal retail in Australia.

: These molds were [[retool]]ed into ''Fall of Cybertron'' [[Ruination (FOC)|Ruination]].

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===Universe (2008)===
[[File:Universe-ROTF-toy BruticusMaximus.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"Why Bruticus no have hands?"]]
*'''Bruticus Maximus''' (2008)
**''Series:'' '''G1 Series'''
: ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Bruticus, now named Bruticus Maximus (presumably for [[trademark]] reasons), is a redeco of the [[Destruction Team]]/[[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]] combiner from ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]''. While [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] and [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] retain their previous modes of tank and helicopter respectively, [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] is now the combiner's second tank, and [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] a sand-colored helicopter.

[[File:Tf universe 25th bruticus a.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb]]
:Like [[Superion (G1)#Universe (2008)|Superion]], Bruticus Maximus, despite being initially intended as a ''Universe'' [[Target]] [[exclusive]], was only released in ''Universe'' packaging in some non-American markets such as Australia and Singapore. Instead, Target stores (and Zellers stores in Canada) received an unchanged version of the toy in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' packaging, still named [[Bruticus Maximus (ROTF)|Bruticus Maximus]], with all the individual components retaining their names as well.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TargetBruticusMaximus/bruticusmaximus.htm More information on Bruticus Maximus at TFU.info]''
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===Encore===
*'''Bruticus''' (2009)
:In 2009, the Generation 1 set was reissued under the ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' line, using the [[retool]]ed molds from the ''Car Robots'' and ''Robots in Disguise'' lines.

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===United===
*'''Bruticus Maximus''' (2012)

:Released exclusively in Takara's Asian markets, this redeco of the ''Energon'' Bruticus Maximus set has colours similar to the previous ''Universe'' (2008)/''Revenge of the Fallen'' release, but with a much greater emphasis on G1-accuracy. Additionally, the hand/feet/weapons previously cast in translucent coloured plastic are now opaque grey.

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==Notes==
[[File:EuroClassicsBruticus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|First person to insert a "Don't shoot the caption" gag gets summarily banned.]]
* Much like the individual Combaticons who form him, Bruticus's animation model has a design difference from the toy. In his case, the chest plate is drawn to look like it is formed from [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]'s wings, while the rest of the shuttle forms Bruticus's arm.
* The packaging of the 1991 [[The Transformers (European toyline)|European]] [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] release of the original Onslaught toy depicted Bruticus and the Combaticons in (mostly) new color schemes, despite the fact that the actual toys looked identical to their original releases. While it may never be known for certain, it has been theorized that these colors were the cause of an error with the hue settings of the [[stock photography|stock photos]], rather than a legitimate attempt to [[redeco]] the Combaticons.
* Several attributes of [[Action Master Elite]] [[Turbo Master]], including his face and chest plate, suggest that he was originally intended to be Bruticus. However, according to ''[[Transformers Generations]]'', at one point a non-transforming version of Action Master Bruticus was planned, which would have looked significantly different from [[Turbo Master]].
* For every version of the original Bruticus mold, the packaging art depicts the Brawl figure on backwards.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Bruticus''' (ブルーティカス ''Burūtikasu'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Hún Tiān Bào''' (China, 浑天豹)
*''Italian:'' '''Multiforce''' (toy)
*''Portuguese:'' '''Brutus''' (Brazil comic)
*''Russian:'' '''Grubikus''' (Грубикус)

==External links==
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Bruticus Bruticus's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Detritus (G1)

2013-10-27T03:04:53Z

Jeddostotle7: /* Generation 1 */

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{{disambig2|the Generation 1 Junkion|the Aligned Junkion|Detritus (Prime)}}

:''Detritus is a [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Detritus-card.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Three easy payments, an offer you can't refuse.]]

Leaving his homeworld of [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]] behind, '''Detritus''' (デトライタス ''Detoraitasu'') has become a mercenary, selling his services to either side of the [[Autobot]]/[[Decepticon]] conflict. Rumor has it that his appearance on the battlefield turns the tide of victory to the side that employs him... when in reality, Detritus simply bides his time until he is positive which side is likely to win anyway, then offers to join that side. Like all Junkions, Detritus is capable of repairing heavy damage to himself with whatever scrap metal he can get a hold of.

Detritus's ultimate goal is to use his earnings to build his own army and overthrow [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] as the leader of the Junkions. In the meantime, he's hooked up with the Decepticons under the alias '''Roadmaster''' to make use of their stolen [[Power Core Combination]] technology.

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==Fiction==
===''United EX''===
[[Image:UnitedEX6 destruction regeneration.jpg|left|thumb|250px]]
Hired by the Decepticons to join the forces of their new [[Master Chaos]] sub-group, Detritus was upgraded into a new form with enhanced regenerative capabilities that allowed him to draw the scrap material his race could use to repair themselves to his body through magnetism, and supplied with the first team of Decepticon-created [[Power Core Combination|Power Core]] drones, the Road Drones. Lurking in a landfill, the newly-dubbed "Roadmaster" ambushed [[Tread Bolt|Jetmaster]] and [[Kakuryu|Grimmaster]] as the two Autobots returned to their headquarters from [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]]. Focusing his attention on Grimmaster, he halfheartedly tried to talk the former Decepticon into returning to the fold, but, upon being rebuffed, was all too happy to demonstrate his new drone force and improved regeneration abilities. {{storylink|Destruction and Regeneration}}
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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1-toy Detritus.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Detritus''' (Junkion, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''77'''
**''Accessories'': Rifle, 12.7mm machinegun, missile launcher, 3 missiles, spare tire, spare tank

: A [[redeco]] of the Generation 1 toy [[Hound (G1)#Toys|Hound]], Detritus transforms into a Mitsubishi J59 off-road vehicle. He came with an entirely new [[sticker|decal]] sheet to make him fit the Junkion aesthetic better, which also includes both Autobot and Decepticon faction sigils. He also lacks most of the chrome of the original version, retaining only the chrome on his headlamps. As a Japanese release, his spring-loaded missile launcher is fully operational. He was only available though [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s [[e-HOBBY]] service.

: The decals for this set are printed on glossy paper rather than foil, with fairly weak adhesive. As such, the decals designed to fold around corners do not like to ''stay'' folded. Glue may be necessary.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Destron/Detritus/detritus.htm More information on Detritus at TFU.info]''

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===United EX===
[[Image:Unitedtoy roadmaster.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
*'''Roadmaster Prime Mode''' ([[October 27|10-27]]-[[2012]])
**''ID number'': '''EX 03'''
**''Accessories'': Junker Drone, Trasher Drone, Waster Drone, Scrapper Drone

: Roadmaster is a [[redeco]] of the ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' [[Mudslinger (PCC)|Mudslinger]] toy, transforming into a monster truck of indeterminate model. He also has a "Prime Mode" where he becomes the torso of a super robot, capable of using any auto-transforming Power Core Combiner drone-machine molds for limbs.

: He comes with four color-coordinated "wasteland" vehicle drone-limbs, redecos of the [[Destructicon (PCC)|Destructicon]]s. Each one has a square socket for a Power Core Combiner connection; when attached via the blue plugs on a Commander figure, the vehicles automatically transform into a super-robot limb, and snaps back to vehicle mode when disconnected. Despite the universal connector, each drone can only form one limb type (but can be swapped from left to right):

:*'''Junker Drone''' — Leg (Roadmaster's left)
:*'''Trasher Drone''' — Leg (Roadmaster's right)
:*'''Waster Drone''' — Arm (Roadmaster's left)
:*'''Scrapper Drone''' — Arm (Roadmaster's right)

: Roadmaster's mold was also used to make [[Salvage (Movie)|Salvage]]. The Junker and Trasher Drones were also used to make two of the [[Stunticon (PCC)|Stunticons]].

==Notes==
* Detritus's e-HOBBY toy features [[facial hair]]. Though hard to see, his face has a small, painted goatee.
* Detritus' instruction sheet uses photos of the normal Hound toy for the step-by-step instructions. The "main" picture and decal application photos, however, use Detritus. The sheet uses extremely simple names for his weapons, but the bio card has much more fanciful terms. His hand-held rifle is the "phase disruptor", his launcher fires "armor-piercing rocket ammunition", and his vehicle-mode rear cannon is the "beam machinegun".
* The ''United EX'' story does not ''explicitly'', out-and-out ''say'' that Roadmaster is Detritus, but that's about the only way it ''doesn't'' connect the two.

==External links==
* [http://www.tf-1.com/articles/reissue_frame.php?art=Detritus e-HOBBY Detritus toy article at TF-1.com]
* [http://www.allspark.com/content/view/10766/37/ Roadmaster's box-back translated at Allspark.com]

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[[Category:Junkions]]
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Beachcomber (Animated)

2013-07-22T03:47:39Z

Jeddostotle7:

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{{disambig3|Beachcomber}}
:''Beachcomber is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Beachcomber-tfa-model.jpg|right|190px|thumb|"DUDE! I saw a [[Vast predatory bird|bird]]. It was, like, pretty."]]
Meet '''Beachcomber'''. Beachcomber's the dude. Beachcomber waves "hi". Beachcomber is nice. He wants to be everyone's friend. He also takes drugs, like [[syk]], [[simultronic]]s, [[Angolmois]], and [[crysmagnetal|crysmag]].<ref>''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II]]''</ref> Unfortunately, good things do not happen to Beachcomber. Poor guy.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
[[Image:Beachcomber-crowd.JPG|left|thumb|150px|Dude, those colors are pretty.]]
Beachcomber once got his map protocols mixed up, and crashed in [[Tracks (Animated)|Tracks]]'s garage. Tracks threw him out without even scratching his own paintjob. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II}}
Beachcomber was part of the crowd cheering during [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel]]'s speech.{{storylink|Decepticon Air}}
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==Notes==
*Beachcomber was originally intended to debut in a scene with [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] during "[[TransWarped]]", in which he died horribly, turning gray and crumbling into dust.<ref>[http://www.formspring.me/DerrickJWyatt/q/1008942236 Derrick J Wyatt responding to a question about Beachcomber on Formspring]</ref> The scene was recorded, with Beachcomber being voiced by [[Tom Kenny]], who would provide a surfer type of voice. It was cut from the show for reasons unknown, other than being cut for time.

*[[Derrick J. Wyatt]] mourns the loss of said scene, having expressed his lack of fondness for Beachcomber on several occasions.{{Fact|date=July 2012}} [[Jim Sorenson]] also says he's not alone in this hatred.<ref>[https://twitter.com/SentinelPrime/status/3579478369 Jim Sorenson replying to Almanac sequel questions.]</ref> Poor hippie.
**However, Derrick's dislike of Beachcomber has lessened considerably in recent months.<ref>[http://www.formspring.me/DerrickJWyatt/q/1330014111]</ref>

*Derrick J. Wyatt has also provided some tips about how to play Beachcomber for an RP group on Twitter, suggesting he should be dumber and more stoned, also claiming that his processor should be "totally fried." Oh, Derrick.<ref>[https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1634860485 Derrik J. Wyatt, replying to a comment about a Beachcomber RP account.]</ref>

==References==
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[[Category:Animated Autobots]]
[[Category:Cartoon-only Transformers]]