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Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

2025-09-23T13:26:21Z

John Pannozzi:

[[File:TMNT-Infestation-2.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|"[[A Tribe Called Quest|Can I kick it? Yes you can]]!"]]
The '''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles''' are a quartet of, as the name suggests, mutated crime-fighting turtles. These heroes in a half-shell consist of the four brothers:
*[[Leonardo]]
*[[Donatello]]
*[[Raphael]]
*[[Michelangelo (TMNT)|Michelangelo]]

==Fiction==
===''Infestation 2''===
The world of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was one of many universes invaded by the [[Elder God]]s. {{storylink|Infestation 2 issue 1|Infestation 2 #1}}

==Toys==
===''Collaborative''===
[[File:CollaborativePartyWallop figure.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Likely the closest we can get to a Transformers answer to the ''[[Nintendo|Mario]] and [[Sonic the Hedgehog (character)|Sonic]] at the Olympics'' series.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{bp-multi|'''Party Wallop''' (2024)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': 5 skullcaps (Party Wallop, Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael, Michelangelo), 2 katana, bo staff, 2 sai, 2 nunchaku, mini-pizza
{{toydesigner|[[Amy Bence]] (packaging artist), [[Matthew Cohen]] (photography)}}<ref>[[March 28]], [[2024]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlrpW_ZFKvE Hasbro Pulse | Transformers 40th Anniversary Fanstream | March 28, 2024] on YouTube, with [[Ben MacCrae]], [[Evan Brooks]], [[Mark Maher]], [[Kelly Rose]], and [[Matt Ferguson]].</ref>
:''[[Transformers Collaborative|Collaborative]]'' [[Party Wallop]] is a roughly-Voyager-sized toy, transforming from a humanoid-turtle-like robot into the Turtles' "Party Wagon" vehicle, based on its design in the original {{w|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series)|1987 cartoon series}}. In van mode, the roof-mounted (non-firing) guns and side-mounted red "lights" can rotate/elevate, plus the ends of the cannons are [[Fire Blast effect]]-compatible. The logo/shield in the van's front center can pop off, revealing a tiny personal pan pizza.

:In robot mode, Party Wallop has a ''lot'' of display options available. Party Wallop's head pops apart above the "muzzle", to be replaced with one of five different skullcaps: a baseline green for default Party Wallop, then four others with "bandanas", one each in one of the Turtles' colors (Leo in blue, Donnie in purple, Raph in red, Mikey in orange). The currently unused skullcaps can be stored in Party Wallop's back assembly/shell. The Wagon's entire front end can stay attached to the robot's torso, or be removed and placed on his back, revealing a more turtle-plastron-like torso design. This sub-torso features a rotating belt buckle, each side displaying one of the four Turtle's initials (L, D, R, M) in their trademark colors to match the chosen bandana (or not, go nuts).

:On top of that, he comes with Cybertronian versions of each of the boys' signature weapons: Leo's katanas, Donnie's bo staff, Raph's sais, and Mikey's nunchaku. All seven of these weapons can be stored in both robot and vehicle mode, with a series of tabs and [[5 mm post]]s/holes allowing all of them to be readily accessible for battle in robot mode, not merely stuffed into his back-shell.

==Notes==
*The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have seen a handful of ''Transformers'' characters inspired by their likenesses, including some [[Acolyte of Unicron|Unicron cultists]] featured in the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comic]], and a few [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbirds]] in ''[[Transformers: The Wreckers]]'' [[Departure|#1]] wearing their bandanna colors.
*Though a true crossover event with both ''TMNT'' and ''Transformers'' has yet to happen properly, both franchises have had a surprising amount of production overlap. Some of the more notable instances of this include:
**[[David Wise]], one of ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]]'' cartoon's most prolific writers, later went on to act as the 1987 ''TMNT'' {{w|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series)|animated series}}' head writer, writing and/or script-editing nearly all of the series' 193 episodes. [[David Wise#Recycle-o-matic|As he tended to do]], some of his ''TMNT'' scripts recycled elements (and even ''an entire episode plot'' in [[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide|one instance]]) from his ''Transformers'' scripts.
**[[Dreamwave Productions]], riding high from the success of their various ''Transformers'' comics, acquired the comic license for ''TMNT'' in 2003 and put out a [[Peter David]]-written ongoing based on the {{w|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2003 TV series)|concurrently-running animated series}} in June; however, it was suddenly canceled ([[Pat Lee#Business practices|three guesses as to why]]) and ended in December with its seventh issue. [[IDW Publishing]] has held the license since 2011, and they came ''very close'' to having both franchises meet: ''[[Infestation 2]]'' saw the Elder Gods invade the worlds of both ''[[Hearts of Steel]]'' and their own ''TMNT'' {{w|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (IDW Publishing)|continuity}}, while the events of ''[[The X-Files: Conspiracy: The Transformers|The X-Files: Conspiracy]]'' take place in a universe where the Ninja Turtles and the ''Hearts of Steel'' Transformers co-exist, though neither event saw one franchise interact with the other.
**[[Michael Bay]] served as producer for the short-lived live-action duology released by [[Paramount Pictures]] (whose parent company, Paramount Skydance Corporation, has owned the ''TMNT'' franchise as a whole since 2009) under their [[Nickelodeon|Nickelodeon Movies]] banner from [[2014]] to [[2016]] in a two-year span. Actress [[Megan Fox]] was prominently featured in these movies as ''Turtles'' mainstay, reporter April O'Neil, and the second film features a brief scene in which Michelangelo interacts with a [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] cosplayer.
**[[TakaraTomy]] also imported and localized the ''TMNT'' shows and toys and both regular Transformers sound directors [[Yoshikazu Iwanami]] and [[Keiichirō Miyoshi]] have directed the dubs for different ''TMNT'' shows.
*Other franchises ''TMNT'' has crossed over with include ''[[Power Rangers (group)|Power Rangers]]'', ''[[Batman]]'', ''[[Kurama|Naruto]]'', ''[[Code Red|Stranger Things]]'', ''[[Mattel|Masters of the Universe]]'', ''[[Ghostbusters]]'', ''[[Street Fighter II × Transformers|Street Fighter]]'', ''[[Godzilla]]'', ''[[Archie Andrews|Archie]]'', ''[[The X-Files: Conspiracy: The Transformers|The X-Files]]'', and countless other Nickelodeon properties.
*In the [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|letters page]] of [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|Marvel UK]] [[The Void! (US)|issue #318]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] replied to a reader that the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] received [[Television|TV]] broadcasts—both [[human]] and [[alien]]—and his favourite was "Pupal-stage not-quite-normal hand-to-hand combat pelagic reptiloids", though this was a rough translation.

==External links==
*{{w|Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles}} at Wikipedia

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Skydance Media

2025-09-23T13:24:00Z

John Pannozzi:

[[File:Skydance Media 2020.png|thumb|350px|]]
'''Skydance Media''' (originally known as '''Skydance Productions''') is an [[United States of America|American]] production company based in Santa Monica, California. Founded by David Ellison in [[April 4]], [[2006]], the company specializes in films, animation, television, video games, and sports. Since 2025, it is part of '''Paramount Skydance Corporation'''.

==History==
In 2006, Skydance Productions was formed by David Ellison, which released their first film ''Flyboys'' that same year, starring Ellison and co-financed with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.<ref>http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/08/david-ellison-raises-350-million-to-cofund-movies-with-paramount.html</ref> Also in 2006, Skydance entered a five-year partnership to co-produce and co-finance films with [[Paramount Pictures]] starting in fall 2009, and renewed the agreement twice extending to 2021. Before the start of August 2010, Skydance hired Dana Goldberg, formerly of Village Roadshow Pictures, to oversee development and production. In August 2010, due to the Paramount partnership and an equity investment by Ellison's father and Oracle Corporation co-founder and chairman Larry Ellison, who was then the sixth richest person in the world, Skydance raised $350 million in equity and credit to co-finance its films. On October 25, 2011, Skydance tried to sign its own first production client with [[Alex Kurtzman]] and [[Roberto Orci]] of K/O Paper Products, but the deal was never materialized.<ref>https://variety.com/2011/film/news/kurtzman-orci-eye-move-to-skydance-1118045035/</ref> On March 2014, Don Granger joined the company as the EVP of Feature Productions, a newly created position; he reports to Dana Goldberg who is the company's chief creative officer.<ref>https://deadline.com/2014/03/don-granger-takes-exec-veep-post-at-david-ellisons-skydance-productions-banner-693499/</ref>

In January 2022, Skydance formed a multi-year feature film deal with Apple TV+, ending its deal with Paramount. However, they will continue to work with Paramount on franchises such as ''Mission: Impossible'', ''[[Star Trek]]'', ''Top Gun'', ''[[T-800|Terminator]]'', ''Jack Ryan'', and ''[[Live-action film series|Transformers]]''.<ref>https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/david-ellison-skydance-apple-films-1235078773/</ref> By July 2024, Skydance signed a merger deal with Paramount Global.<ref>https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/paramount-skydance-merger-agreement-approval-joint-venture-streaming-1236067261/</ref>

==Films==
*[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]] (2023)

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Companies]]

Pluto TV

2025-09-23T13:21:17Z

John Pannozzi:

[[File:Pluto TV logo 2020.svg.png|thumb|250px]]

'''Pluto TV''' is a free ad-supported streaming service owned by Paramount Skydance Corporation. It primarily offers a selection of programming content through digital linear channels designed to emulate the experience of traditional broadcast programming.

==History==

Pluto TV was originally co-founded by Thomas V. Ryan, Ilya Pozin and Nick Grouf in 2013 and launched its website in 2014. Originally owned by Pluto Inc., it was developed to provide curated channels of existing online content, offering a slate of nearly 100 categorized channels featuring content from various video-sharing platforms and additional content provided through partnerships with original web content services and television networks (including Funny or Die, QVC, and RocketJump)<ref>https://variety.com/2014/digital/news/pluto-tv-launches-live-web-video-service-with-backing-from-utas-jeremy-zimmer-terry-semel-1201150269/</ref>. The number of channels would expand over the years.

In 2017, Pluto launched a video-on-demand offering featuring a library of licensed television shows and movies from distributors such as [[Sony]] and [[Paramount Pictures]]<ref>https://variety.com/2017/digital/news/pluto-tv-on-demand-free-spotify-1202427136/</ref>. On October 1st, 2018, Pluto TV expanded to other parts of Europe with a platform on Sky's Now TV in the [[United Kingdom|UK]]<ref>https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2018/10/02/pluto-tv-makes-european-debut-on-now-tv-in-the-uk/</ref>. On December 4th, 2018, it expanded to Germany and Austria, also through an agreement with Sky<ref>https://www.mediaplaynews.com/pluto-tv-bows-service-in-germany-austria/</ref>.

On January 22nd, 2019, Viacom announced their intention of buying Pluto TV from Pluto Inc., with the deal being completed on March 4th<ref>https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/viacom-acquires-free-streaming-platform-pluto-tv-340-million-1178191/</ref>. On March 18th, Viacom announced plans to launch Pluto TV worldwide<ref>https://deadline.com/2019/03/viacom-pluto-tv-avod-1202577324/</ref>. On May 1st, Pluto TV introduced branded channels based on Viacom-cable outlets and other Viacom properties, including content from Paramount and [[Nickelodeon]]. These channels focus primarily on archival content and series that Pluto TV has acquired from other content providers<ref>https://variety.com/2019/digital/news/viacom-newfronts-pluto-tv-channels-originals-slate-1203200042/</ref>.

On August 13th, 2019, National Amusements announced that Viacom and [[CBS]] Corporation, which had split into two separate companies in 2005, would re-merge to become ViacomCBS. Pluto TV already had CBS News' 24/7 streaming network CBSN prior to the announcement<ref>https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/cbs-viacom-strike-deal-recombine-1075545/</ref>.

On February 3rd, 2020, ViacomCBS announced that Pluto TV would launch in South America, at the end of March, offering 17 channels available in Spanish and Portuguese at launch.<ref>https://deadline.com/2020/02/pluto-tv-sets-latin-america-launch-in-march-with-brazil-coming-by-year-end-1202849672/</ref> The service was expected to launch in Brazil in December 2020 but was launched on November 17th instead.<ref>http://vcfaz.tv/pluto-tv-adianta-lancamento-e-ja-esta-disponivel-no-brasil/</ref> On October 8th, ViacomCBS announced Pluto TV's launch in Spain, Italy and France.<ref>https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/viacomcbs-pluto-tv-spain-france-italy-movistar-plus-1234797184/</ref> On November 29, 2021, ViacomCBS announced that Pluto TV would launch in Sweden, Norway and Denmark by 2022 as part of a joint venture with Nordic Entertainment Group.<ref>https://variety.com/2021/streaming/global/pluto-tv-nent-group-viafree-1235121007/</ref> On May 18, 2022, Pluto TV launched in the Nordics.<ref>https://www.aussieosbourne.com/2022/05/pluto-tv-paramount-company-launches-in.html</ref> On June 8th, Paramount Global (formerly ViacomCBS<ref>https://www.paramount.com/press/viacomcbs-unveils-new-company-name-global-content-slate-and-international-expansion-plans-for-paramount-at-investor-event</ref>), and Corus Entertainment announced that Pluto TV will launch in Canada in the Fall.<ref>https://www.corusent.com/media-centre/press-releases/pluto-tv-to-launch-with-corus-in-canada-this-fall/</ref> On the 29th, it was announced that a Transformers-themed channel created by Nickelodeon would launch on June 13. <ref>https://thestreamable.com/news/what-s-coming-to-pluto-tv-in-june-2022-including-star-trek-beyond-zoolander-transformers-tv</ref> Currently the United States, Latin American, Brazilian, United Kingdom, French, Italian, and Nordic versions are available.

==On demand ''Transformers'' shows==
*''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers: Original Series]]'' (except ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'')
*''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers Beast Wars]]''
*''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers: Beast Machines]]''
*''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Transformers: Armada]]''
*''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Transformers: Energon]]''
*''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Transformers: Cybertron]]''
*''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers: Animated]]''
*''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots]]'' (Season 4)
*''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Transformers: Cyberverse]]'' (Seasons 3 and 4, listed separately)

==Notes==
*Despite ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise (2015)]]'' being on the Transformers TV channel since its launch, it has remained unavailable as an on-demand title.

==External links==

*[https://pluto.tv/ Pluto TV website]
*[https://pluto.tv/en/live-tv/60fb053712f22a0007ff14d2 Watch Transformers TV on Pluto TV]

==References==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category: Streaming platforms]]

Paramount Pictures

2025-09-23T13:17:53Z

John Pannozzi:

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{{disambig2|the film studio|the digital streaming service|Paramount+}}
[[Image:Paramount Pictures 2022.svg|thumb|200px|Wematanye!]]
'''Paramount Pictures''' is the [[United States of America|American]] film company that co-produces and distributes the [[live-action film series]] with [[DreamWorks]], as well as ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]'' on their own. Founded on [[May 8]], [[1912]], it is one of the oldest major Hollywood film studios.

Paramount's parent company, '''Paramount Skydance Corporation''', also owns [[Nickelodeon]], and ad-based streaming service [[Pluto TV]], which in 2022 launched the dedicated channel [[Transformers TV]]. Series that air on the channel include all eight shows currently featured on [[Tubi]], along with ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Transformers: Cyberverse]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]''.<ref>[https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/transformers-tv-streaming-channel-launches-on-pluto-tv/ ComicBook.com: Transformers TV Streaming Channel Launches on Pluto TV]</ref>
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==Home entertainment==
Paramount's [[home video|home entertainment]] division handles the DVD and Blu-ray releases of the live action films, as well as the ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'', ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' and ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' series.

===''Energon'' and ''Cybertron''===
Paramount released a handful of ''Energon'' and ''Cybertron'' collections in the United States in 2004 and 2005, with each released simultaneously on VHS and DVD (the VHS releases featuring two episodes each, the DVDs adding a further two "bonus" episodes each). For these releases, several episodes were re-dubbed to fix numerous mistakes that occurred in the episodes that were broadcast, as well as throwing in some new dialogue. This is particularly noticeable on the first release, ''The Battle for Energon''.

The first two ''Energon'' volumes were later released in PAL format in Australia and the UK, with each volume again being released simultaneously on VHS and DVD, but with the difference that the VHS releases also included the DVDs' bonus episodes. The first ''Cybertron'' collection was also released in Australia and the UK on DVD, but not VHS. The ''Energon'' volumes 3 and 4, and the later ''Ultimate Collection'' box sets, were not released outside of the United States.

*'''''Transformers: Energon'' — Volume 1: The Battle For Energon''' (US: [[October 12]], 2004 / AUS: [[April 7]], 2005 / UK: [[June 27]], 2005)
:Contains the episodes "[[Cybertron City (episode)|Cybertron City]]" and "[[Energon Stars]]".
:DVD and PAL VHS releases also include the bonus episodes "[[Scorpinok (episode)|Scorpinok]]" and "[[Megatron's Sword]]".
*'''''Transformers: Energon'' — Volume 2: The Return Of Megatron''' (US: October 12, 2004 / AUS: [[July 7]], 2005 / UK: [[August 29]], 2005)
:Contains the episodes "[[Megatron Resurrected]]" and "[[Megatron Raid]]".
:DVD and PAL VHS releases also include the bonus episodes "[[Starscream the Mysterious Mercenary]]" and "[[Battle of the Asteroid Belt]]".
*'''''Transformers: Energon'' — Volume 3: Shockblast Unleashed''' ([[February 22]], 2005)
:Contains the episodes "[[Shockblast: Rampage]]" and "[[Open Fire!]]".
:DVD release also includes the episodes "[[Ripped Up Space]]" and "[[Protection]]".
*'''''Transformers: Energon'' — Volume 4: Omega Supreme''' (February 22, 2005)
:Contains the episodes "[[Crash Course]]" and "[[Omega Supreme (episode)|Omega Supreme]]".
:DVD release also includes the episodes "[[A Heroic Battle]]" and "[[The Power of Unicron]]".
<center><gallery>
Image:Energon Battle for Energon DVD.jpg|'''''Energon'' — Volume 1: The Battle for Energon'''
Image:Energon Return of Megatron DVD.jpg|'''''Energon'' — Volume 2: The Return of Megatron'''
Image:Energon Shockblast Unleashed DVD.jpg|'''''Energon'' — Volume 3: Shockblast Unleashed'''
Image:Energon Omega Supreme DVD.jpg|'''''Energon'' — Volume 4: Omega Supreme'''
</gallery></center>
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*'''''Transformers: Cybertron'' — A New Beginning''' (US: [[September 13]], 2005 / AUS: [[July 6]], 2006 / UK: [[April 10]], 2006)
:Contains the episodes "[[Haven]]" and "[[Hidden (Cybertron)|Hidden]]".
:DVD release also includes the bonus episodes "[[Landmine (episode)|Landmine]]", and "[[Space (episode)|Space]]".
*'''''Transformers: Cybertron'' — The Ultimate Collection''' ([[July 22]], 2008)
:7-disc box set containing all 52 episodes of the series.
:Initial pressings contained an error on the first disc, resulting in 7 minutes of footage being missing from the episode "Hidden". In response to this issue, on [[September 5]], 2008, Paramount offered to replace defective discs for affected customers.
*'''''Transformers: Energon'' — The Ultimate Collection''' ([[December 16]], 2008)
:7-disc box set containing the 51 episodes that were dubbed into English, despite having been advertised as including "all 52 episodes".<ref>[http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Transformers-Energon-The-Ultimate-Collection/10563 TV Shows on DVD announcing the ''Energon'' DVD boxset.]</ref>
:The set features the re-dubbed DVD versions of the first few episodes rather than the broadcast ones, and also finally corrects the titles of "[[Imprisoned Inferno|Improsoned Inferno]]" and "[[Decepticon Army|Deception Army]]".
<center><gallery>
Image:Cybertron New Beginning DVD.jpg|'''''Cybertron'' — A New Beginning'''
Image:Cybertron Ultimate Collection DVD.jpg|'''''Cybertron'' — The Ultimate Collection'''
Image:Energon Ultimate Collection DVD.jpg|'''''Energon'' — The Ultimate Collection'''
</gallery></center>
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===''Transformers'' (film)===
{{main|Transformers (film)/home video}}
[[Image:2007Movie 2-disc DVD.jpg|thumb|200px|]]
;<big>DVD</big>
*'''''Transformers''''' (2007)
*'''''Transformers'' — Two-Disc Special Edition''' (2007)
*'''''Transformers'' — Two-Movie Mega Collection''' (US, 2009)
*'''''Transformers'' — The Complete Collection: Mega Edition''' (UK, 2009)
*'''''Transformers'' Trilogy''' (2011)
;<big>HD DVD</big>
*'''''Transformers'' — Two-Disc Special Edition''' (2007)
;<big>Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Transformers'' — Two-Disc Special Edition''' (2008)
*'''''Transformers'' — Two-Movie Mega Collection''' (US, 2009)
*'''''Transformers'' — The Complete Collection: Mega Edition''' (UK, 2009)
*'''''Transformers'' Trilogy''' (2011)
*'''''Transformers'' Limited Edition Collector's Trilogy''' (2012)
{{-}}

===''Transformers Animated''===
{{main|Transformers Animated (cartoon)/home video}}
;<big>United States</big>
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Transform and Roll Out''' (2008)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Season One''' (2008)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Season Two''' (2009)

[[Image:Animated TARO DVD.jpg|thumb|150px|]]
;<big>Australia / UK</big>
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Transform and Roll Out''' (2008)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume One: Blast from the Past''' (2008)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Two: Lost and Found''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Three: Megatron Rising''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Four: Mission Accomplished''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Five: Fistful of Energon''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Six: Black Friday''' (2009)

;<big>Germany</big>
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Transformieren und Abfart''' (2008)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Eins: Drachenkämpfer''' (2008)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Zwei: Die alten Waffen''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Drei: Megatrons Auferstehung''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Vier: Mission erfüllt''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Fünf: Der doppelte Starscream''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Volume Sechs: Schwarzer Freitag''' (2009)

;<big>Japan</big>
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 1''' (2010)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 2''' (2010)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 3''' (2010)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 4''' (2010)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 5''' (2010)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 6''' (2011)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 7''' (2011)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 8''' (2011)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 9''' (2011)
*'''''Transformers Animated'' — Vol. 10''' (2011)
{{-}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
[[Image:ROTF-DVD-2disc.jpg|thumb|150px|]]
{{main|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)/home video}}
;<big>DVD</big>
*'''''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen''''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' — 2-Disc Special Edition''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers'' — Two-Movie Mega Collection''' (US, 2009)
*'''''Transformers'' — The Complete Collection: Mega Edition''' (UK, 2009)
*'''''Transformers'' Trilogy''' (2011)
;<big>Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' — Two-Disc Special Edition''' (2009)
*'''''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' — Two-Disc Big Screen Edition''' (US, 2009)
*'''''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' — Digital Copy Special Edition''' (UK, 2009)
*'''''Transformers'' — Two-Movie Mega Collection''' (US, 2009)
*'''''Transformers'' — The Complete Collection: Mega Edition''' (UK, 2009)
*'''''Transformers'' Trilogy''' (2011)
*'''''Transformers'' Limited Edition Collector's Trilogy''' (2012)
{{-}}

===''Dark of the Moon''===
{{main|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)/home video}}
;<big>DVD</big>
*'''''Transformers: Dark of the Moon''''' (2011)
*'''''Transformers'' Trilogy''' (2011)
;<big>Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Transformers: Dark of the Moon'' — Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy''' (2011)
*'''''Transformers: Dark of the Moon'' — 3D Limited Edition''' (2012)
*'''''Transformers'' Trilogy''' (2011)
*'''''Transformers'' Limited Edition Collector's Trilogy''' (2012)

===''Age of Extinction''===
{{main|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)/home video}}
;<big>DVD</big>
*'''''Transformers: Age of Extinction''''' (2014)
;<big>Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Transformers: Age of Extinction'' — Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy''' (2014)
*'''''Transformers: Age of Extinction'' — Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy''' (2014)

===''The Last Knight''===
{{main|Transformers: The Last Knight (film)/home video}}
;<big>DVD</big>
*'''''Transformers: The Last Knight'' — DVD + Digital''' (2017)
;<big>Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Transformers: The Last Knight'' — Blu-ray + DVD + Digital''' (2017)
*'''''Transformers: The Last Knight'' — Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray + DVD + Digital''' (2017)
;<big>Ultra HD Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Transformers: The Last Knight'' — Ultra HD Blu-ray + Blu-ray + Digital''' (2017)

===''Bumblebee''===
{{main|Bumblebee (film)/home video}}
;<big>VHS</big>
*'''''Bumblebee''''' (2019)
;<big>DVD</big>
*'''''Bumblebee''''' (2019)
;<big>Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Bumblebee'' — Blu-ray + DVD + Digital''' (2019)
*'''''Bumblebee'' - Steelbook''' (2019)
;<big>Ultra HD Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Bumblebee'' — Ultra HD Blu-ray + Blu-ray + Digital''' (2019)
*'''''Bumblebee'' - Ultra HD Blu-ray + Blu-ray Steelbook''' (2019)

===''Rise of the Beasts''===
{{main|Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)/home video}}
;<big>DVD</big>
*'''''Transformers: Rise of the Beasts''''' (2023)
;<big>Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Transformers: Rise of the Beasts'' — Blu-ray + Digital''' (2023)
;<big>Ultra HD Blu-ray</big>
*'''''Transformers: Rise of the Beasts'' — Ultra HD Blu-ray + Digital''' (2023)
*'''''Transformers: Rise of the Beasts'' — Ultra HD Blu-ray + Blu-ray + Digital Steelbook''' (2023)
*'''''Transformers'' — 4K Two-Movie Mega Collection''' (US, 2023)

===''EarthSpark''===
In a surprising move, seven years after [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015_cartoon)/home video#Shout.21 Factory|the last]] ''Transformers'' animated series season set release on home video in the United States, Paramount began releasing the first season of ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|EarthSpark]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s on DVD in [[2023]], with the first set's release timed to tie-in with the theatrical release of ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]''.

*'''''Transformers: EarthSpark'' — Season 1: Episodes 1-10''' (US: [[May 16]], 2023 / CAN: May 16, 2023)
:Contains the episodes "[[Secret Legacy, Part 1]]" through to "[[Age of Evolution, Part 2]]".
*'''''Transformers: EarthSpark'' — Season 1: Episodes 11-26''' (US/CAN: [[February 13]], [[2024]])
:Contains the episodes "[[Hashtag: Oops]]" through to "[[The Last Hope, Part 2]]".
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Image:EarthSpark Season 1 Part 1 DVD.jpg|'''''EarthSpark'' — Season 1: Episodes 1-10 '''
Image:EarthSpark Season 1 Part 2 DVD.jpg|'''''EarthSpark'' — Season 1: Episodes 11-26 '''
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==Notes==
*Before the theatrical release of the film ''{{w|IF (film)|IF}}'', the Paramount Pictures YouTube account released a short video showing various animated characters from Paramount related properties auditioning to be imaginary friends. One attending was the ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (franchise)|Rise of the Beasts]]'' version of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeCCpEel5sc</ref>
*Other media owned or distributed by Paramount includes ''[[Star Trek]]'', ''[[Maverick (Collaborative)|Top Gun]]'', the first four ''[[Indiana Jones]]'' movies, the first two ''[[Iron Man]]'' films, ''[[Thor]]'', ''[[Captain America|Captain America: The First Avenger]]'', the ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'' movies (since 2009), and the live-action ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'' and ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog (character)|Sonic the Hedgehog]]'' franchises.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Companies]]
[[Category:Home entertainment]]

Nickelodeon

2025-09-23T13:17:25Z

John Pannozzi:

[[File:NickLogo.jpeg|right|300px|thumb|They say if you stare at this logo for long enough, you can actually hear the barbershop quartet, no joke.]]
'''Nickelodeon''' (often referred to as '''Nick''' for short) is a cable channel dedicated to children's programming, owned by Paramount Skydance Corporation. The first of its kind, the network launched on [[April 1]], [[1979]], and became a global juggernaut in the 1990s by showcasing its live-action programming and in-house animated cartoons (dubbed as "Nicktoons") dedicated to families worldwide. The Nicktoon lineup include the likes of ''Rugrats'', ''Doug'', ''The Ren & Stimpy Show'', ''[[Carlos Alazraqui|Rocko's Modern Life]]'', ''Hey Arnold'', ''The Angry Beavers'', ''[[Tom Kenny|SpongeBob SquarePants]]'', ''[[Tara Strong|The Fairly OddParents]]'', ''Invader Zim'', ''[[Mark Hamill|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'', ''The Loud House'', and countless others, alongside live-action programming such as ''The Adventures of Pete & Pete'', ''All That!'', ''Kenan & Kel'', ''iCarly'', and from 2011-2021, [[Hasbro]]'s own ''[[Power Rangers]]''. They are also the current owners of the ''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'' and ''[[Frank Welker|Garfield]]'' franchises.

Nickelodeon later expanded to establish programming blocks outside of their main demographic, launching "Nick Jr." for pre-schoolers, "TeenNick" for teenagers, "Nick at Nite" for prime-time television, and "NickRewind" for older programming. Since 1988, Nickelodeon has held its own awards ceremony called the "Kids' Choice Awards", in which the likes of [[Dwayne Johnson]], [[Josh Duhamel]], [[Mark Wahlberg]], [[John Cena]], [[Tom Kenny]] and [[Bill Fagerbakke]] have served as hosts and the former four men had been slimed in the time-honored tradition of the brand. In 1995, the Nickelodeon Movies production company was launched, with sister studio [[Paramount Pictures]] distributing their films.

Relevant to this wiki, they are co-producing the ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' cartoon in conjunction with [[Entertainment One]] and [[Hasbro Entertainment]], released in [[2022]] on [[Paramount+]] and Nickelodeon.<ref>[https://deadline.com/2021/02/nickelodeon-orders-transformers-animated-comedy-series-hasbro-franchise-1234700661/ Deadline article]</ref>

==Social media posts==
In [[December]] [[2022]], many of Nickelodeon's Instagram accounts promoted ''EarthSpark'' airing on Paramount+ by posting pictures of classic Nicktoons characters as converting robots. Though most of them are traced from pre-existing ''Transformers'' art, they all lack the copyright indicia to suggest these were authorized by Hasbro, so they're kind of in a legal grey area since they have been otherwise okayed by the company that produces the current ''Transformers'' cartoon. We've mirrored them all here below, due to the impermanent nature of social media, and just because we think they're neat.

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File:SpongeBob Transformer.jpeg|{{w|SpongeBob SquarePants (character)|SpongeBob SquarePants}} (''{{w|SpongeBob SquarePants}}'')<ref>{{citesocial|quote=do you need a boating license to turn into one?|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl2QmmcL02J/|name=SpongeBob SquarePants|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=7}}</ref>
File:Patrick Bot.jpg|{{w|Patrick Star}} (''{{w|SpongeBob SquarePants}}'')<ref>{{citesocial|quote=No, this is PATRICK BOT|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl2NgtwrH5P/|name=Patrick Star|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=7}}</ref>
File:Nicktoons crossover Garfield.jpg|{{w|Garfield (character)|Garfield}} (''{{w|Garfield}}'')<ref>{{citesocial|quote=a lasagna making bot... so Garfield |link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl17UrYLKAW/|name=Garfield|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=6}}</ref>
File:Nicktoons crossover Zuko.jpg|{{w|Zuko}} (''{{w|Avatar: The Last Airbender}}'')<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Zuko’s bot is totally fire 🔥|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl17NZnLRs5/|name=Avatar: The Last Airbender|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=6}}</ref>
File:Nicktoons crossover Angelica.jpg|Angelica Pickles (''{{w|Rugrats}}'')<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Angelica's a really cool bot|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl18AXzr1rD/|name=Rugrats|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=6}}</ref>
File:Cosmo and Wanda Transformers.jpeg|Cosmo and Wanda (''{{w|The Fairly OddParents}}'')<ref>{{citesocial|quote=a MAGICAL conversion|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl2EIIzrKrE/|name=Fairly OddParents|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=6}}</ref>
File:TMNT Raphael Transformer.jpg|[[Raphael]] (''[[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]]'')<ref>{{citesocial|quote=teenage mutant ninja bot|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl2BftILmh6/|name=Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=6}}</ref>
File:Nicktoons crossover Loud House.jpg|Lana and Lola Loud (''{{w|The Loud House}}'')<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Lana and Lola as robot twins? What could go wrong? 🤖|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl17bxprSkx/|name=The Loud House|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=6}}</ref>
File:Nicktoons crossover Nigel Thornberry.jpg|Nigel Thornberry (''{{w|The Wild Thornberrys}}'')<ref name=Nigel>{{citesocial|quote=Nigel Thornberry’s bot? SMASHING!|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl16_i_LCAg/|name=NickRewind|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=6}}</ref>
File:Nicktoons crossover Arnold.jpg|Arnold Shortman (''{{w|Hey Arnold!}}'')<ref name=Nigel/>
File:Nicktoons crossover CatDog.jpg|CatDog (''{{w|CatDog}}'')<ref name=Nigel/>
File:Nicktoons crossover Goddard.jpg|Goddard (''{{w|Jimmy Neutron (franchise)|Jimmy Neutron}}'')<ref name=Nigel/>
File:Nicktoons crossover GIR.jpg|GIR (''{{w|Invader Zim}}'')<ref name=Nigel/>
File:Nicktoons crossover Jenny.jpg|Jenny Wakeman (''{{w|My Life as a Teenage Robot}}'')<ref name=Nigel/>
File:Nicktoons crossover Big Nate.jpg|Nate Wright (''{{w|Big Nate (TV series)|Big Nate}}'')<ref name=Nate>{{citesocial|quote=let our imagination run wild with these Nicktoon bot conversions!|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl3f64BtahM/|name=Nickelodeon Animation|site=Instagram|year=2022|month=12|day=7}}</ref>
File:Nicktoons crossover Gwyn.jpg|Gwyn (''[[Star Trek]]: {{w|Star Trek: Prodigy|Prodigy}}'')<ref name=Nate/>
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==Notes==
*To promote ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''{{'}}s theatrical release, the channel held [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry0OYmI_1f0 a contest] where prizes included a home sound system, copies of the [[The Transformers: The Movie - Original Motion Picture Soundtrack|soundtrack]] (and other [[Scotti Bros. Records]] releases) and a "drawing from the actual movie". For its home video release, they'd run the "[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XoRnqG-skc Super Saturday Spring Training] sweepstakes, where the prizes included a copy of either the movie or a copy of ''[[My Little Pony]]: The Movie''. Ironically at this point, the channel was largely against the kind of violence that shows like the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon itself]] and ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'' were promoting, so no word on whether or not they approved of Optimus Prime dying.
*Even before ''EarthSpark'', a "Transformers Universe" area was featured in the Nickelodeon social game ''[[Nicktropolis]]'' in 2008. The network's British and Irish channel also held the broadcast rights for ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'' during its premiere overseas that year.
*''Transformers'' has also had a regular presence at the Nickelodeon Kids' Choice Awards, via either promotions for upcoming films or nominations for different categories, though the franchise has yet to actually win any competitive awards.
**''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' was nominated for "Favorite Movie" at the 2008 KCAs.
**At the 2010 KCAs, ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' was nominated for "Favorite Movie", while [[Shia LaBeouf]] and [[Megan Fox]] were nominated for "Favorite Movie Actor" and "Favorite Movie Actress" respectively.
**To promote ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]]'', [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] appeared via video at the 2014 KCAs and warned host Mark Wahlberg that he was in danger of being slimed by [[Jack Reynor]]. Ultimately, Optimus ended up turning the tables and sliming Reynor himself.
**At the 2015 KCAs, ''Age of Extinction'' was nominated for "Favorite Movie", with Mark Wahlberg nominated for "Favorite Movie Actor". ''[[Angry Birds Transformers (mobile game)|Angry Birds Transformers]]'' was also nominated for "Most Addicting Game".
**[[Isabela Merced]] appeared at the 2017 KCAs to present one of the categories, as well as to premiere a preview clip of ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|The Last Knight]]''.
**At the 2023 KCAs, Optimus Prime was given a Lifetime Achievement Award, presented to him by his ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts]]'' co-stars [[Anthony Ramos]], [[Dominique Fishback]], and [[Pete Davidson]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i_-f1bc7VrM</ref>
**At the 2024 KCAs, [[Chris Hemsworth]], [[Brian Tyree Henry]], and [[Keegan-Michael Key]] revealed a new clip from ''[[Transformers One (film)|Transformers One]]''.
*In July 2024, the official ''SpongeBob SquarePants'' YouTube channel uploaded a [https://youtube.com/watch?v=9pTzo-2pyy0 new entry] in their ''SpongeBob: Reimagined'' series that reinterpreted a scene from the season 1 episode "Karate Choppers" in ''Transformers'' style, complete with transforming robotic versions of SpongeBob and Sandy.
*French voice actor [[Yoann Sover]] is one of the TV hosts of Nickelodeon France.

==References==
{{Reflist}}

==External links==
*[https://www.nick.com/ Official website]
*{{w|Nickelodeon|Nickelodeon at Wikipedia}}
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MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2025-07-26T17:11:47Z

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==The Thirteen and the other conversation we've been waiting for==

Over the last few years, the Thirteen have played a major role in multiple ''Transformers'' stories. However, this prominence—combined with Hasbro's increasingly loose approach their in-universe lore—has also led to increasingly divergent portrayals of the group and its individual members.

Around 2015, we took the step of consolidating all the different incarnations of the Thirteen on one page for each, with the rationale that the characters were former [[multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]], and mostly shared similar backstories and personalities between incarnations. However, even at the time, this was not a completely ideal comporomise. Most notably, the various [[Alpha Trion]]s were not consolidated into one, partly due to length and partly because the existence of his [[Alpha Trion#Shattered Glass|murderously insane evil counterpart]] represented a massive contradiction to the entire notion.

However, over the years, multiple authors have drastically reinterpreted the Thirteen and their story. The role of "Thirteenth Prime" has been filled by multiple contradictory characters—[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], [[Zeta Prime (One)|Zeta Prime]], [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]—and individual depictions of the Primes themselves have grown increasingly divergent. "Shattered Glass" Alpha Trion is no longer the outlier, but rather an increasing trend: for instance, ''Transformers One'' features a completely heroic Megatronus who never becomes The Fallen, a Liege Maximo that looks nothing like Loki, and an incarnation of Nexus Prime that does not seem to be a combiner. With these data points in mind—and the potential for even further divergence in the coming years—I and several other editors feel that it may be time to reorganize our Thirteen coverage, splitting them out into individual [[continuity family]]-based incarnations the way we would for stock characters like [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (disambiguation)|Bumblebee]], etc.

However, if we do adopt this approach, some further problems would need to be solved.

* '''How do we handle toys?''' With a few exceptions like ''Revenge of the Fallen'' The Fallen, the toys of the Thirteen are clearly meant to be somewhat continuity-agnostic. ''Age of the Primes'' Solus Prime is about as faithful to her depiction in ''The Covenant of Primus'' as it is to ''One'' or any of the IDW comics in which she appears. Even if we count them as "repurposes" across multiple pages, the format of the wiki means they'd have to be based ''somewhere''...

* '''FunPub stuff''': The Vector Prime of "Ask Vector Prime" is clearly meant to be a version of the same Vector Prime who appeared in the ''Cybertron'' cartoon, but at the same time makes reference to off-camera events, such as a time when he and the Thirteen lived in Ancient Greece—would we make a separate "FunPub" page for the Thirteen, or try and work these events onto Unicron Trilogy pages when necessary? Other similar problems exist: "[[Coalescence]]" is a story that features a movie universe Fallen jumping into the world of ''Shattered Glass'', and AVP established that "The Evil One" of GoBots fame, is another alternate-universe incarnation of The Fallen/Megatronus.

Feedback on this proposal is appreciated! [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 11:50, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:From my point of view, I think as it stands right now my thoughts on the Thirteenth Prime stuff is that I absolutely understand the concerns, but for me personally it kind of falls into the same view as like, IDW Primus being Rung, which I think our current model handles fairly well. For the other Primes, I'm tempted to say that like...as it stands, there's about as much divergence there as like, Unicron as he's depicted in The Last Knight (not really shown to be aggressive beyond being called Cybertron's enemy), and as it stands right now, I don't think that's enough to say there should be a full-on split, but I do think it's worth thinking about future-proofing. And I suppose my main concern right now about pushing ahead too soon is in the event there's some fiction accompanying the Age of the Primes stuff; certainly, the fact that we're getting a toy of the Fallen with the Megatronus name but with the original Dreamwave design does make me hesitant that there might be some further consolidation of disparate elements; and I remember that last time we did this in the early 2010s was that we figured the idea of the Aligned Primes not having any connections to the others was going to be the standard going forward, which turned out not to be the case, and I figure it might be worth considering if something like that happens again. But! I am open to ideas of how to implement this if we do go for it; I think the suite options we have for Primus and Unicron work perfectly fine if we go for something like that. Just figure it's worth considering the stuff I've brought up here first. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 12:35, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::Right now, I'm leaning toward the camp of not splitting them out for all the reasons you've given. I look at our current situation and, while not perfect, I feel that things can be tidied up simply with some "Conceptual history" sections for the pages that need them. The aforementioned Vector Prime is a particular case not just for everything stated about him above, but because [[Vector Prime: In the Beginning|his very first Fub Pub appearance]] written by [[Forest Lee]] leans so heavily far into the multiversal aspect of the character that it doesn't treat him like he is a native to the Cybertron cartoon universe but rather to the whole multiverse itself. Similarly, Nexus Prime was also continuity-agnostic by his very nature from the ground up. The safest solution for splitting him out would be to classify his Fun Pub incarnation under "(Timelines)" (the previous "(Classics)" tag we had him under was bleh), but that's typically a last-resort tag we have tried to avoid in the past.
::Regarding The Fallen, while he does tend to be evil in a majority of his depictions, and has had a few outlier cases where he either didn't go bad at all (TF One) or was the victim of other's manipulations (Covenant), it's implied that the majority of those evil versions weren't always evil from the start, and only went bad later. The TF One version of Megatronus never turned to the dark side, but one could argue that he was murdered before he ever would have gotten the chance to. ;-)
::Regarding the Thirteenth Prime and various conflicting the depictions, we solved that issue by simply creating the "[[Thirteenth Prime]]" article to explain everything there.
::You mention the situation with Alpha Trion, and I get it. The biggest reasons for simply not merging all of his pages together were that A) he was never originally meant to be one of the Thirteen since the original Dreamwave-based lore for the Thirteen had them all die before A3 was even born, and B) his Shattered Glass self. I used to be a proponent for keeping all of his versions separate because of A, but in the time since then we've had more and more depictions of him as a 13er who were all still pretty much the same as his traditional pre-Aligned depictions. If we were to merge all of his versions together, a "Conceptual history" section for him could explain the whole "Sometimes he's a 13er, sometimes he's not" situation.
::BUT, there still remains his SG version, which I wouldn't feel comfortable putting on the same page as his other versions. Reaching back to the [https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Transformers:_Shattered_Glass_(franchise)#Separate_Continuity.3F original discussion] about how to handle the SG characters, I find myself still agreeing with those like Steve-o who pointed out how awkward "'''Continuity X''': Bumblebee loves humans and does lots of funny and cute stuff to help save the universe. '''Continuity Y''': Bumblebee loves humans and does lots of different but still funny and cute stuff to help save the universe. '''Shattered Glass''': Bumblebee is hardcore evil and wants to kill you for no particular reason. '''Continuity Z''': Bumblebee loves humans and does yet another set of funny and cute stuff to help save the universe." reads as a page. But, there is one thing we have nowadays that we did not have back when that original discussion was held and makes me wonder how differently the conversation might have gone if they had existed back then: Subpages. Looking at our [[Primus]] and [[Unicron]] articles, I find it to be a very fair and workable compromise that their respective SG versions are placed not on their respective main pages but as subpages for each. Doing the same for SG Alpha Trion were we to merge all of the non-SG A3's together could be a valid solution too, in my eyes. Unlike others, I don't see subpages as an annoying evil that much be dealt with and eliminated, but as a handy tool to work around tricky situations like this.
::Had they even existed back then, it's very possible that ALL SG characters may have ended up on subpages for their positive polarity counterparts instead of separate pages entirely. And since then, SG has grown to expand not just beyond the original Fun Pub SG G1 continuity but to other non-G1 SG continuities, like for the Movies, Animated, and Cybertron, forcing us to create such unsightly tags as "(SG Movie)", "(SG Animated)", and "(SG Cybertron)", when subpages could have prevented that with "(Movie)/Shattered Glass" or "(Animated)/Shattered Glass" and so on.
::But, I'm getting off topic. Backing up to the Thirteen, I'm for keeping the Thirteen together. In addition to what all I've said above, the Age of the Primes toys seem to be treating them as the standard or definitive versions of the Thirteen that apply for every version/universe/continuity, pulling from all across the board rather than sticking to a single depicted version of them. Prima has his Aligned body but the Sunbow Powerful Robot's head. The Fallen is just the Dreamwave design but with Aligned Megatronus's weapons from the books and RID 2015 cartoon. Micronus is likely to be based on his RID 2015 design which was itself based on the Aligned design. The statue group artwork makes Amalgamous looks more like his TF One design than his Aligned design. Vector Prime is just straight-up Cybertron Vector Prime. And Star Convoy was never one of the Thirteen in any version before now. Yet, all these disparately-sourced designs are being treated as if they all belong to the same group no matter what continuity they come from. So keeping them together as they are would just make it easier for us to not have to split hairs over which versions of which 13ers these are supposed to be when the answer would simply be "all of the above" (and we wouldn't have to put multiple entries of the same toy on, like, six or seven different characters' pages that would have to maintained equally across all of those pages). This model makes this particular version of the group feel inherently multiversal, with each member either originating from a different universe as each other, or being a multiversal hybrids comprised of different aspects of different versions of them from across the dimensions, as if Hasbro is trying to say that the AOTP versions represent *every* version of the Thirteen (minus Star Optimus, of course, since we know he's not a member in every version of this group). --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:01, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:::As somebody who's pushed for this split for a long time, I'm obviously all for it. I feel we can easily determine where the toys go based on their main inspirations (Fallen is G1 Dreamwave, Micronus is Aligned RID, etc) are or just make the links go to the G1 pages (since G1 is effectively the wastebasket taxon of this franchise anyway). For the FunPub stuff, we can either do it Sideways style or just do it like we do for Kre-O and ancillary stuff: place them based on the characterization/design used by the work. Multiversal Vector Prime is pretty much just Cybertron Vector Prime (and the TransTech incarnation from the last portion of AVP can be split out).
:::I am pretty much opposed to "subpages" because that is just duplicating the parentheses system we already have just for the sake of pedantry. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:03, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:::Fully agree with both Escargon and Sabrblade, and their reasoning. I am biased against splits pretty much as a matter of cause, but the Thirteen ''in particular'' have for most of their history (including now, in the continuity-agnostic ''Age of the Primes!)'' been defined by their multiversal nature. I just don't think a split would be helpful. —[[User:The Wadapan|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 16:05, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::::So we need to wait five years of more non-multiversal stories to have this discussion again? That doesn't make sense. The COP version of the Thirteen weren't characterized as singularities in the first place, regardless; only FunPub cared about that aspect (and not even with the usual lineup we have now) and they tossed it because they realized it was an unworkable concept in this franchise and it's unlikely to ever get resurrected. It's been nearly a decade since the Shroud (the concept only existed from 2009-2015). You bring up AOTP but toylines clearly don't and never thought about those characters in terms of our organizational schema. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:19, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:I think we can probably leave the most of the old content together, since it might be a mess to split them apart and much of that content is based on the Covenant mythos anyway. I feel new iterations of the Thirteen (post-POTP?) should get their own pages, like ''Earthspark'' Quintus and the ''One'' Primes (particularly Megatronus since he's quite different). Though I suppose that begs the question of what to use in the parentheses for their current pages... —[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 13:10, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::How much of it is actually sticking to the Covenant? IDW1 had them be regular guys and some pre-Covenant stuff (notably Megatronus/Fallen) is more prominent for the character and not really compatible. Other Aligned stuff has also influenced other "continuity families", but we're not merging those articles, so I don't really see why this is different regarding the Thirteen. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:49, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:I’m against splitting pages, mostly because The Thirteen haven’t had enough drastic and unique depictions of them to stop “breaking the rules” for them and give them split pages.
::> The Thirteen haven’t followed the traditional convention of “every character gets a new page for that universe’s depiction”, mostly because of the whole multiversal singularity issue. Now while that concept isn’t used in fiction anymore, ''Age of the Primes'' seems to lean towards having a standard, continuity-agnostic depiction of the Thirteen from which future teams can use as the foundation of their depictions.
::> Escargon and Sabrblade make some good points regarding subpages, particularly with the example of the standard '''“Primus = God”''' and '''Rung (G1)''' incarnations. Rung is a distinct and unique take on the Primus character whose backstory is incompatible with virtually every other Primus incarnation, so placing him on the same page as the Primus of the Marvel Comics, or Cybertron, or the Aligned continuity, wouldn’t seem right.
::> ''The Covenant of Primus'' has been the foundation of every depiction of the Thirteen since it was released. Certain things might be modified, such as the 2005 IDW’s take on them, but even those Primes still follow certain story beats: Megatronus kills Solus, Liege Maximo is a manipulator, Prima’s role as the leader and his conflict with Megatronus, etc. ''One'' offers a depiction of the Thirteen who don’t enter a War of the Primes situation, but because we don’t really get any more information about them besides how they died, I wouldn’t say that they’re distinct enough or important enough to warrant their own pages.
::> Then there’s the fact that a lot of the Primes either have had very small roles or haven’t had any real importance to the franchise in several years: '''Micronus'''’s last big role was a few episodes in ''Robots in Disguise'' and a clever tie-in to the Microspace of the 2005 IDW universe. '''Onyx'''’s only big role was in the ''Covenant'', mostly thanks to '''[[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|this guy]]''' taking his place in another universe. Onyx has a few mentions in ''Cyberverse'', but I don’t think that alone should be the reason for splitting his page up. '''Nexus Prime''' and '''Vector Prime''' haven’t really done anything notable since the Shroud. '''Solus Prime''' has seen some prominence thanks to IDW's Caminus and ''Power of the Primes'', but those depictions again don’t stray too far from the ''Covenant''. '''Amalgamous Prime''' has had virtually no exploration as a character. The most we’ve gotten for him is a much easier-to-look-at design in ''One''.
::> Character-wise, story-wise… they’re all still heavily based on the ''Covenant''. Even '''Quintus Prime'''’s ''Earthspark'' depiction (with his more human-looking face) is based on his “Johnny Appleseed, made the Quintessons” lore established from the ''Covenant''. Now if we had a full group of the Thirteen from a Shattered Glass universe or had some “What-If?” incarnations of the characters that made them very different… splitting pages would make more sense to me.
::> A lot of the Thirteen have also maintained a consistent visual look to them since their introduction: all the Primes introduced in the Covenant have kept their look (Alchemist’s Lenses, Onyx’s face, Solus’ hair and color scheme), and every version of Megatronus seems to have a Decepticon insignia face, flames, and/or both. While ''One'' may have changed some color schemes (Liege Maximo missing his green), I don’t think just having a different color scheme and nothing else different warrants a new page.
::> I like the idea of conceptual history sections for now, and as I said on ''The Fallen''’s talk page, I think the beginning to his page needs a general rewrite from its “frozen in 2009” version. But until drastic new interpretations of those characters are created, if a member of the Thirteen has a single page… we should keep it as a single page --[[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 16:33, 7 December 2024 (EST)
: Splitting them would simply be a bigger headache. They're rather like Primus and Unicron where they're "bigger picture" characters (only this time around designed ''very specifically'' to '''''be''''' as such) and it's best to treat them as such, and really, there's not enough material to BOTHER splitting for most of them. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:29, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::Since it's related to this subject, it should probably also be mentioned here that there have recently been two discussions happening on the talk page for [[The Fallen]]. One about changing that article's mainpic and the other about moving the page's name to Megatronus. As of now, nothing has come out of either discussion, but I feel the results of this a bigger discussion may have an effect on either of those two smaller ones. Speaking as one who is in favor of not splitting out the Thirteen, my thoughts on these two smaller topics are that a good compromise would be to keep the article at its current name since many Megatronuses still become The Fallen, but replace the mainpic with The Fallen's Age of the Primes toy packaging art (as it depicts him in his original first body from Dreamwave but armed with his now-signature weapons from Aligned media, serving as a sort of visual overview for the character's history), along with a rewrite of his intro at the top of the page to be more all-encompassing, and the inclusion of a new "Conceptual history" section to give a proper overview of his different depictions. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 19:29, 7 December 2024 (EST)
:::I'm going to second this. I've mulled it over a little bit and while there is an argument to be made for splitting them out, I feel that 12 of the 13 primes really don't warrant it. They just haven't had as much an impact on the story and while it could be future proofing to split them, until we get prominent appearances from them I don't think it's a viable option right now. Megatronus is clearly the exception to this rule. I don't know if there's a clean solution to dealing with him at the moment. Part of me thinks maybe we should suite out the Movie and RiD versions since those are his too big appearences to date. At the bare minimum though I think we should use either his Dreamwave or Age of Primes art as the mainpic. It's his first body and I think it's influenced more designs than his RoTF design has. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 22:57, 7 December 2024 (EST)
::::Erm, no. Neither his Movie or RiD sections (certainly not the latter) are big enough to warrant subpages for either. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:57, 8 December 2024 (EST)
:::I'm also of the opinion that a split would be a massive hassle for very little gain, but I do feel we should move The Fallen to Megatronus. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 06:54, 8 December 2024 (EST)
::::To me, renaming the page to Megatronus feels like renaming an Optimus Prime page to Orion Pax. The name was created to tell us what he was called ''before'' he became The Fallen, like how Orion Pax was what Optimus was called before he became Optimus Prime. TF One Megatronus never became The Fallen but he's an anomaly, not a new standard. As of now, the only impact TF One Megatronus has had on the brand is the official reveal video for Age of the Primes describing the very Dreamwave/Aligned-based AOTP version as "the most powerful Prime," while also putting a grim, pronounced emphasis on "The Fallen" when referring to him as "Megatronus... The Fallen". --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:16, 8 December 2024 (EST)
::::: '''Yes''' to changing The Fallen's mainpic back to the DW-style character design, huge-ass '''No''' to changing the page name; the Optimus/Orion comparison is spot-on. (And as to below... yes. The Thirteen are absolutely "set dressing that walks like a man" and best to approach them as such.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:11, 8 December 2024 (EST)

:After meditating upon this a while I think I've come to agree with the broad majority above that splitting each member of the Thirteen would hurt more than it would help. The way I see it what we should be striving for here is the approach that involves the least "hallucinating data" within our organizational system, and splitting will require making a lot of different calls on what "counts" to formulate micro-characterizations for dozens of serial continuity transplants, none of which do much individually, while obfuscating the larger context they are gesturing towards. Fundamentally what we may be running up against here is that the closest most of these guys have to a true "home continuity" as we typically think of it is... the brand bible. They are set dressing that walks like a man.

:To go one step further, if we want to talk future-proofing I would advocate formalizing the approach of treating them as a squad of mini-Unicrons/Primuses such that:

::1) My suggestion for the issues currently plaguing the Fallen (and to a lesser degree Trion) would be to make "Conceptual History" sections more or less standard issue across the board for the Thirteen, laying out swerves in characterization and appearance as they happened rather than trying to pry them apart ''or'' smoosh them together.

::2) I think it's worth revisiting merging Alpha Trion for consistency. In the decade+ since Prime cludged him into the lineup, Alpha Trion has consistently appeared as a member of the Thirteen, an insubstantial cameo, or both in pretty much every continuity he's appeared, and looking backwards I cannot help but notice that the fact that there's next to no meaningful daylight between his depictions has been the running gag of his [[Alpha Trion|disambiguation page]] since day one. If Shattered Glass remains a sticking point the Unicron/Primus style suite split approach is a reasonable compromise.

:I wouldn't say I'm married to any of this and counter-counter-proposals are welcome, but that's my two cents. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 14:08, 8 December 2024 (EST)
:I think just put a line at the end of the fallens intro article that says "while mostly a bad guy, there exists at least one universe (link to TF one section) where he's managed to defy all logic and be...good for once).[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 21:53, 8 December 2024 (EST)

I'm for splitting the Thirteen, for the same reasons Saix gave. If that doesn't work, I think the versions of Alpha Trion should be merged. It's the inconsistency that drives me batty. [[User:Boingus|--Boingus]] ([[User talk:Boingus|talk]]) 22:12, 8 December 2024 (EST)

===Checkpoint? (01/18/2025)===
This topic seems to have gotten as much interaction as it's going to get, so to take stock before it falls off the agenda completely:

:*'''Votes for splitting the Thirteen across the board:''' 4 (Locoman, Saix, BlueJayWarrior, Boingus)
:*'''Votes against:''' 8 (Escargon, Sabrblade, Wadapan, Daytonjhammon, M Sipher, Exim93, Dark T Zeratul, AzimuthAcolyte)

That seems like a pretty resounding 2:1 "no," but the discussion also generated some possible compromises/suggestions for future-proofing:

:*'''Votes for more widespread use of "Conceptual History" sections:''' 3 (Sabrblade, Daytonjhammon, AzimuthAcolyte)
:*'''Votes to merge Alpha Trion (with potential SG suite) for consistency:''' 3 (Sabrblade, AzimuthAcolyte, Boingus)

Lastly it generated some cross-bleed from the debates on [[Talk:The Fallen|The Fallen's talk page]] about some updates now that we're 16 years out from his [[live-action film series]] star turn:

1) Moving the page to "Megatronus":
:*'''For:''' 1 (Dark T Zeratul)
:*'''Against:''' 2 (Sabrblade, M Sipher)

2) Swapping back to a Dreamwave-style mainpic:
:*'''For:''' 3 (Sabrblade, Ezim93, M Sipher)

If anyone wants to try to resuscitate the mega-split speak now. If not, thoughts on the compromise proposals?

The Fallen discussion should probably return to his own page. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 13:33, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:My stances remain unchanged on all of the above. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:55, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::I'd be fine with splitting, but if we don't, we ''absolutely'' need to merge the Alpha Trions. There's no good justification for the others being together and him being split.
::As for the Fallen... I feel the need to point out that it's not ''just'' One Megatronus that didn't use the name. EVERY toyline and piece of media in the last decade — RID15, the Prime Wars cartoons, the POTP toy, the offhand mentions in Cyberverse — have used "Megatronus", completely dropping the idea that he stopped being Megatronus and became the Fallen. It's evidently how Hasbro thinks of the character; the Studio Series toy provides plenty of evidence that they ''could'' have just called the AOTP toy "The Fallen" if they'd wanted to. -[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 15:51, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:::I am also pro-merging Alpha Trions with a SG subpage along the lines of what we do for Primus and Unicron. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:11, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::::I disagree that we need to put SG Trion on a separate page. Just have his Shattered Glass section open with "In the mirror universe of Shattered Glass, Alpha Trion was..." --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:58, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::::I'm pro merging Alpha Trion as well and adding conceptual history. Fallen/Megatronus discussion I'm good with taking back to his page. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 16:20, 18 January 2025 (EST)

:Here's my 5 cents. We are under no obligation to be consistent with how we treat the members of the Thirteen. If it makes sense for the characters, we can have Alpha Trions on separate pages because he has a long rich history of appearances in wide and varied media, including media in which he is not a member of the Thirteen, and we can also have Amalgamous Prime on one page because he doesn't. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:48, 18 January 2025 (EST)
::I'm in agreement with this. "Consistency" is nice until it isn't, and merging Alpha's pages... isn't. I feel like that's just gonna result in a clusterfuck. "Conceptual history" is fine to add, but frankly I feel like only like... maybe only a third of the 13 would even ''need'' it. There's really not a lot to most of these. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:07, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:::I'm curious what would be the negative result of merging Alpha Trion's pages. The thing is that they ''are'' basically all identical barring the Shattered Glass version, and even that one is functionally the same guy, just evil. RID01, Energon, Animated and ROTF Alpha Trion are all footnotes, which just leaves us with G1 Trion (sometimes of the Thirteen), Aligned Trion (of the Thirteen), Cyberverse Trion (of the Thirteen) and One Trion (of the Thirteen). Is there some complicating factor that I'm missing...? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:38, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:::: Honestly, I think this just sold me on the idea of merging all the Alpha Trion pages, including the Shattered Glass version, into one page. A Conceptual History section could explain his development from sage to member of the Thirteen, with a paragraph about his Shattered Glass version. [[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 00:02, 19 January 2025 (EST)
:::::As I stated above, I used to be firmly against the idea of the Alpha Trions being merged, because of the facts that he wasn't originally supposed to be one of the Thirteen (a ship that has long since sailed), he was never a singularity like the other 13ers were (which no longer matters at all now since that concept was done away with), and he has a Shattered Glass version (but so too do Primus and Unicron, now, and their pages have set a good workable precedent for how to deal with SG versions of "set dressing characters" like them and the Thirteen). But now, as time goes on, the more it begins to feel like we're just keeping the Alpha Trions separate for more pedantic reasons than are necessary, especially since the AOTP toyline looks to be drawing influence from all continuities for its specific roster of the Thirteen, as if to say that the AOTP toys of the Thirteen represent *all* versions of the Thirteen (meaning AOTP Alpha Trion will represent *all* Alpha Trions).
:::::Sipher mentioned that conceptual history sections would only benefit a small number of the Thirteen, and, well, yes, that is a true statement. But the idea wouldn't be to give ''all'' of the Thirteen conceptual history sections, just the few that would need it. And a merged. But there being only a few that would need it no less diminishes the need of those few.
:::::However, I definitely draw the line at putting SG characters on the same webpages as their non-SG counterparts, as I go back to [https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Transformers:_Shattered_Glass_(franchise)#Separate_Continuity.3Fthe original discussion about that very subject] and all the reasons given there (particularly from Steve-o, whom I already quoted above) for why SG characters should '''not''' share a webpage with their non-SG counterparts. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:47, 19 January 2025 (EST)
::::I feel like "they're all basically the same" is a charge that can be leveled at a lot of characters who are present in multiple continuity families. I'm all in favour of keeping non-entities to one page each, but Alpha Trion meets the threshold for actually having enough detail to have separate articles. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:32, 19 January 2025 (EST)
:My votes: No to splitting the 13 articles, yes for conceptual history, no to merging Trion (maybe expanding his disambig a la Sideways'?), no to moving the Fallen, maybe to changing his mainpic (compare to UT or Aligned characteers with major body changes - UT generally sticks with the Armada bodies, but Aligned favours Prime bodies over WFC). [[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] ([[User talk:BattleBlade|talk]]) 18:01, 18 January 2025 (EST)
:I also think that it wouldn´t be appropriate to separate the pages of the thirteen and that the articles about Alpha Trion should be merged, after he become one of the 13 he has been mostly the same across all media. --[[User:MikeOsix|MikeOsix]] ([[User_talk:MikeOsix|talk]]) 20:57, 18 January 2024 (EST)
My vote is that we should keep Prime pages *mostly* non-split- I do, however, think there is merit to a "Conceptual History" part, going over different variations of the characters over the Years. I originally wanted Alpha's pages to be kept apart- but after some talking, I figure it's best for him to also enjoy a conceptual history rather than a disambiguation page. (I still love Disambiguation pages though.)
On The Fallen's page getting a Dreamwave-style picture: I give it a hard thumbs up. That seems to be the design Hasbro is sticking with compared to the skeleton-furnace guy from the movies. -- [[User:OptiMay Primal|OptiMay Primal]] ([[User talk: BattleBlade|talk]]) 21:54, 18 January 2024 (PST)
:I cannot see any benefit to smushing all of the Alpha Trion articles together. Every time this happens, we get a lengthy, unfocused mess of a page that wards off attempts at maintenance because it's so large. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:16, 19 January 2025 (EST)
::I'm personally against merging all the Trions, but I could be convinced if someone sandboxes a merged page first as a proof of concept. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:59, 24 January 2025 (EST)
At Cyberlink's suggestion, I've slapped together a rough prototype of a merged Alpha Trion suite broadly mirroring the Fallen's setup that can be seen–
:*'''[[Alpha Trion|HERE]]'''
Intro etc not final, of course. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 16:27, 24 January 2025 (EST)
:I like this. It's no longer or less focused than [[Unicron]], for example. I'm still kind of dubious about the need to exclude Shattered Glass versions from these cross-continuity characters, but at least SG Trion is more substantial than SG Unicron. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:31, 24 January 2025 (EST)
:Posting to confirm I'm in favor of this. [[User:Ezim93|Ezim93]] ([[User talk:Ezim93|talk]]) 12:49, 25 January 2025 (EST)
:Yeah I like it too, when so many of his incarnations are so similar the unified article feels more user friendly [[User:LenaPrime|LenaPrime]] ([[User talk:LenaPrime|talk]]) 12:57, 25 January 2025 (EST)
:Adding that I think this works pretty well. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 18:42, 25 January 2025 (EST)
:Thought I'd stick my two cents in. I think this would work. If Unicron can have a merged page like this, then it should certainly work for Trion. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 23:44, 25 January 2025 (EST)
I've also started working on prototypes of rewrites / updates to Prima and The Fallen's pages, which can be seen...
:*'''[[User:Daytonjhammon/Sandbox/Prima|HERE for Prima]]''' and '''[[User:Daytonjhammon/Sandbox/The Fallen|HERE for The Fallen]]'''.
Discussion for The Fallen should probably stay on his [[Talk:The Fallen|own talk page]], but I'm linking them here since both have "conceptual history" sections I've drafted up. [[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 13:50, 26 January 2025 (EST)

===Checkpoint 2 (05/05/2025)===
This definitely fell way off the agenda but there was sufficient interest that I believe it is worth circling back. Following Dayton's excellent work on Prima and the Fallen's Conceptual History section going live, the final point of order remains the prospect of merging Alpha Trion (with SG suite) to reflect his Aligned-forward characterization and bring him in line with the other 12 + 2 (Thirteen, Primus, Unicron) "man-shaped set dressing" characters.

Again, a full mock-up of this concept can be seen-

:*'''[[Alpha Trion|HERE]]'''

The current tally stands at:

:*'''Votes for merging Alpha Trion into one cross-continuity article with SG sub-page:''' 12 (Sabrblade, AzimuthAcolyte, Boingus, Broadside, Escargon, Ezim93, Daytonjhammon, MikeOsix, OptiMay Primal, LenaPrime, IGEBM13, Hilfam)
:*'''Votes against:''' 5 (abates, M Sipher, BattleBlade, Saix, Cyberlink420)

That's overwhelming support a ways past 2:1. Does anyone care to answer a last call for comment?

Suggestions or concerns for the prototype are particularly welcome. For my part I would appreciate assistance drafting a Conceptual History section. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 14:18, 5 May 2025 (EDT)
: Chipping in to reiterate that I'm in favour, though I'm unconvinced that the SG subpage is necessary. I do recognise that it's in line with how we currently treat Unicron, but like... is there anything we gain from having it be a separate page that we couldn't get from just putting "in one mirror universe, alpha trion was a real sicko!" at the top of the section? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 18:20, 6 May 2025 (EDT)
::On principle alone, I'm against putting SG characters on the same pages as their non-SG counterparts, no matter what. The day we make such allowance for just one of them is the day we open the floodgates for potentially doing that for any and all SG characters. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 19:54, 6 May 2025 (EDT)
:::The (SG) system is simple. What exactly does messing with it accomplish? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:28, 8 May 2025 (EDT)
::::See, my understanding was not that SG characters are "special exceptions", it's that we treat Shattered Glass as its own continuity family (and likewise SG Animated, et al). It's not "messing with" the system to put the SG version of a character on a cross-continuity family page for that character. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:53, 13 May 2025 (EDT)
:::::It's messing with what Thylacine mentions for the sake of insisting on making categorization exceptions for the Thirteen. It's not useful to either editor or reader, especially if we're going to do the pointless lateral move that is "/Shattered Glass" anyway. (SG) is straightforward and easy to parse as opposed to "here's the explicitly negative AU guy buried here because arbitrary wiki reasons". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:42, 13 May 2025 (EDT)
:::Looks like it doesn't matter anymore, but the difference between SG and non-SG material - the whole fact that SG exists to be an irreconcilable opposite to G1 - is more fundamental and important than the sum total of all appearances and history of at least 10 of the 13. We should not be wiping away important conceptual distinctions for the sake of unimportant asterisk characters who basically only ever existed in a list. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:59, 13 May 2025 (EDT)

== International Sightings ==

So, as of late, mentions of "toy appeared in (non-US country) without prior announcement" type lines have been getting purged from the wiki. This makes me wonder: am I allowed to even mention them anymore when a new toy appears somewhere? I'm not really sure why these relatively harmless information lines are getting removed, nor am I really a fan of it, but if I can't mention them anymore I will happily oblige.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 21:04, 7 January 2025 (EST)
:They're being removed because "toy first showed up at a random store in Asia" is not useful information. That's how toy retail has worked for decades. Hasbro deigning to announce some product doesn't make it the standard. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:57, 7 January 2025 (EST)
::Oh, ok, I'll keep that in mind from now on.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 23:11, 7 January 2025 (EST)

==First revealed at (some regular online update)==
On a similar note to the international sightings, what do people think of "toy was first revealed in Hasbro Instagram post / Fans First Friday / Pulse livestream of whatever date," etc.? We note this constantly, because it's another fact to include about a just-announced toy nobody owns yet. A year later it looks unimportant. Is this something we like and value, or more of a space-filing habit? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 07:34, 8 January 2025 (EST)
:I think it's a lot of blather, but at least it's documenting Hasbro marketing as opposed to random retail appearances. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:25, 8 January 2025 (EST)
: I'm lukewarm at best on 'em. But often these announcements are followed up almost immediately by pre-orders opening up through official channels, and that feels a bit more... noteworthy. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 12:31, 8 January 2025 (EST)
: Seems pretty relevant to me! There's value in preserving a toy's history, after all. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 10:14, 6 April 2025 (EDT))

==Update Navigation==
Should the Navigation sidebar be changed to replace [[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]] with [[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]] or should we wait a bit?--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 20:49, 2 February 2025 (EST)
:Good question. I think we could change it now since almost all of wave 1 is out at retail over in Asia, but I’ll wait for someone higher than me to make the final decision lol - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 23:10, 5 February 2025 (EST)

==Adding a "Transformers in [Country name]" section to country articles==
So, by some weird coincidence, a lot of my edits in these past months have involved expanding on the quirks of how individual aspects of the Transformers brand were represented in countries like [[Brazil]], [[Argentina]], [[Greece]], and [[Portugal]] - however; something that I've noticed is that there's usually no comprehensive summary of this information in the actual pages we have for those countries, with most or all of it being restricted to the individual articles regarding those things instead (for instance; Argentina had a whole three companies that produced Transformers toys with [[Antex]], [[Comando Toys]], and [[Lynsa]], but none of them are even mentioned in Argentina's page!). As such, and in the spirit of making our wiki more international, I propose that we add a small section to every country page specifically regarding the presence of the Transformers brand within it.

Some information that could go into these sections, if available (naturally, not ''everything'' here needs to be mentioned):
* When Transformers media first premiered in the country
* When Transformers toys first released in the country
* Previous releases of [[pre-Transformers]] in the country, if any (e.g.; Italy's ''Trasformer'', the UK's ''Convertors'', Finland's ''Diaclone'', etc.)
* Brands that might have made toys or merchandise for Transformers in the country, if any (e.g.; [[Estrela]] in Brazil, [[IGA]] in Mexico, [[GiG]] in Italy, [[El Greco]] in Greece, etc.)
* Notable figures, variants, and/or entire toylines that are exclusive to the country, if any (obviously, a fully comprehensive list would be difficult for a country like Japan, but it seems feasible for others here.)
* Transformers media that's unique to the country, if any (again; it would be hard to form a comprehensive list for Japan or the US, but it might not be too difficult elsewhere.)
* Peculiar quirks and factoids regarding the distribution of Transformers toys in the country, if any (e.g.; Galaxy Shuttle releasing in Italy, Star Saber releasing in Portugal, Spain's translated G1 blister cards, [[Sonokong]]'s many odd releases of Transformers toys in South Korea, etc.)
* Transformers-connected artists that were born in the country (e.g.; Brazil's [[Marcelo Matere]], Spain's [[José Avilés]], etc.)
* Perhaps some notable aspects of the fandom in the country (e.g., fan organizations, conventions - whether they're [[Convention|official]] or [[Unofficial conventions|unofficial]] - etc.)

Editing these sections could also make for a pretty fun multinational effort: certainly, Transformers fans from all over the world have pretty unique knowledge about the brand in their regions that's undocumented until now, and it would be pretty cool for them to visit the pages for their respective countries and see a section that basically invites them to add that knowledge. If this idea seems acceptable then I would be happy to move ahead with introducing the section to some of the countries that I'm most familiar with (mostly in Europe and Latin America) - let me know what everyone else thinks! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 10:07, 6 April 2025 (EDT))
:I like this idea! I think it’ll be really helpful for both readers and the site’s general organization to have information about international Transformers products and media on their respective countries’ pages. I’m not too well-versed in the foreign aspects of the brand outside of Japan, but I do know one piece of information we can add to Russia’s page is that ''Masterforce'' was the first show to air there :D - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 10:47, 6 April 2025 (EDT)
::I had no idea about that, how interesting! Hopefully more people can give the go-ahead to this. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 11:04, 6 April 2025 (EDT))
:::This strikes me as a proposal with a lot potential if we can get enough manpower behind it. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 17:00, 6 April 2025 (EDT)
:I've made versions of this proposed section for the Portugal, Spain, and Brazil pages, and posted them on [[User:FortressMaxxing/Sandbox|my sandbox]]. Any thoughts would be welcome! Also, shouldn't we maybe add the country flags to their respective pages? The Wikipedia SVGs are on public domain, so I guess we could just import those. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 09:43, 7 April 2025 (EDT))
::I like the way these early write-ups look, it could prove very interesting. Though we should only add the country flags if they appeared in fiction, as we do with the [[Soviet Union]] or [[United States of America]]. Otherwise it's just not important. Every country has a flag, you don't need to come ''here'' to look at them or find out their capital cities, populations, national birds, etc. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:01, 7 April 2025 (EDT)
:::I mean, if we're also to discuss the "meta" details of Transformers in the country - meaning that the pages are no longer restricted to just fiction - then I think it makes sense to at least have a country flag up on the opening paragraph, no? I'm not saying we need to add an Wikipedia-like infobox with the capital and population count and whatever else, but if we also have stuff like logos for companies in their respective pages then it makes sense to at least have what's basically the largest and most important international identifier that a country has attached to a page about it. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 11:29, 7 April 2025 (EDT))
:Given how there seem to be no objections to this project, I hope that it's fine to begin adding these sections to their respective pages during this weekend. I have added entries for Argentina, Italy, and Greece [[User:FortressMaxxing/Sandbox|to my sandbox]], so, together with the other three I previously shared; that will be six "The Transformers franchise in X country" sections coming from me - hopefully others will also be interested in adding similar sections to the pages of whatever countries they're most familiar with! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 18:37, 11 April 2025 (EDT))
::I think the names could be simplified to "Transformers in X". [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:51, 11 April 2025 (EDT)
:::That was actually close to the previous name I had in this topic ("The Transformers in X") before renaming it because I thought it could be a little ambiguous, haha - but actually, I think you're right, "Transformers in Brazil" / "Transformers in Greece" / etc. does sound better and I guess all the ambiguities are kinda cleared up in context of the contents of the sections themselves! "Transformers in X" it shall be then, I've now again renamed this topic accordingly. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 20:06, 11 April 2025 (EDT))
::::Yeah, it could be an ambiguous statement by itself, but we're not making "Transformers in Brazil" for all the fictional times Transformers characters appeared in Brazil because that's already covered by [[Brazil]] itself. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:29, 11 April 2025 (EDT)
:Ayo, I posted the first batch of "Transformers in X" sections a few days ago in the [[Portugal]], [[Spain]], [[Italy]], [[Greece]], [[Brazil]], and [[Argentina]] pages! There are still way more countries that need a similar level of development and since I won't be able to do all of them alone, I wanted to highlight at least the most important ones in the hopes that maybe other users will have an interest in working on them. So, here are '''the pages that most urgently need a "Transformers in X" section''' (plus '''some of the things they should mention'''):

* [[Japan]], obviously: The birth of the transforming robot as a Japanese cultural product (see [[Yonezawa Toys|Yonezawa]] and some of the later transforming robot toys leading up to Takara's Cosmo Countach and eventually the Diaclone Car Robots), the country's transition from Diaclone to Transformers, the introduction of the original show to Japan, a brief mention of the original media and toylines that were only released there, an assessment of the popularity of the franchise in Japan relative to other 'giant robot'-centric media like Gundam and NGE (Also, I've noticed that there is already a small "non-fiction" section that briefly touches on the importance of Japan to the Transformers: it could be used as a starting basis, and I guess that it also suggests someone already had the idea for a similar wiki-project!)
* The [[United States of America|United States]], also quite obviously: Brief summarization of the birth and sustained popularity of the Transformers brand in America, the most prominent retail exclusives that were only launched in U.S. stores, BotCon and all the other big fan conventions
<s>* [[United Kingdom]]: Received a pair of pre-Transformers toylines with the Grandstand Convertors and Tandy's Galactic Man, the UK Marvel Transformers comic, large conventions like TFNation and TFUKcon</s> '''(Done!)'''
* [[France]]: Received a pre-Transformers toyline with [[Joustra|Ceji / Joustra]] releasing Diaclone, Orli Jouet's Robotrack, later Joustra-made G1 Transformers toys, original cartoon had a [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itPo0Q9zmrc|a pretty funky unique theme song], major national toy company [[Majorette]] would briefly become a Transformers licensee in the 2000s
* [[Finland]]: Received a pre-Transformers toyline with Takara directly releasing Diaclone, "black Tracks" was unique to it (and later homaged with [[Loudpedal]])
* [[China]]: Hasbro factories, the Chinese G1 reissue toyline, the commercial success of Age of Extinction and how it brought about a sharp rise in the popularity of Transformers across the country, [[Nezha: Transformers (franchise)|Nezha]]
* [[South Korea]]: The unusual line-ups of [[Young Toys]] and [[Sonokong]], the mystery of [[ToonTown]]
* [[Mexico]]: [[IGA]] and their unique variants of G1 figures
* [[Venezuela]] (which somehow doesn't exist yet despite [[Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 17|already having an in-fiction mention]]?): [[Rubiplas]] made some unique Mini-Vehicles
<s>* [[Peru]]: [[Lynsa]] released multiple unique Mini-Vehicles in both countries, Museo Transformers</s> '''(Done!)'''
* [[Chile]]: Also received [[Lynsa]] Mini-Vehicles
* [[Vietnam]]: Major manufacturing hub for Transformers toys '''(Work in progress)'''
* [[Germany]]: GAMA's "Trans Robot" (pre-Transformers Omega Supreme), had the biggest Transformers convention in continental Europe until it dissolved not too long ago

:On an unrelated note, check out these fancy new GoBoxes down below! If anyone wants to do more in this style (quirky collage of country flag, plus national iconography, plus a Transformer toy that's emblematic of that specific country in some way) then that'd be pretty sweet! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 17:47, 16 April 2025 (EDT))
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::Hey, I noticed that a lot of your claims aren't really sourced, it would be nice if you could cite your sources for us. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 08:01, 21 April 2025 (EDT)
:::For sure! A lot of what's been added to these pages isn't cited because it is already discussed at greater length in their respective articles (and usually cited in said articles) - nonetheless; I will go ahead and add a more extensive round of sources soon. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 12:54, 21 April 2025 (EDT))
:::: Great! Remember to post about that here when it happens. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 13:45, 21 April 2025 (EDT)
::::: All done, I've provided as many citations for whatever information's more obscure or not as well-documented in the English web as I could! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 16:21, 21 April 2025 (EDT))
:::::: Thank you! I appreciate it, though I have noticed that your source about Portuguese people seeing Star Convoy on retail is only available to members of the Facebook group. I understand that information for things like this is hard to come by so if can't change it it's alright but it would be great if you could list a publicly available source instead. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 08:58, 22 April 2025 (EDT)
::::::: Oops, I didn't realize that Transformers Portugal was private on Facebook - but let this not be a problem, because I've just added a translated screenshot to that citation instead! Although I must also add that, unfortunately, I don't know how to really cite the later portion of that trivia - that Star Convoy is also really common on the Portuguese secondary market - because this is basically the product of my own personal experience of living in Portugal and seeing at least four loose Star Convoys on the Portuguese secondary market in the past couple of years across various occasions, all of them being the original version with the white trailer rather than the later reissue (thus suggesting that they come from the aforementioned retail distribution), and all of them being sold for really cheap prices rounding just ~20-40 euros from people who clearly did not know about this being an unusual toy (I got one myself one circa ~2022!). It's just that I frankly didn't know how to cite this in the page (Would "[[User:FortressMaxxing|This editor]] can attest to seeing an inordinate amount of Portuguese Star Convoy copies on the secondary market" be too anecdotal of a reference to have?), so... There's that. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 13:04, 22 April 2025 (EDT))
:::::::: Don't worry, the fist citation should be enough, now's the time to move on to the rest of the countries. I'm a bit busy at the moment but I might be able to take on the UK write up. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 13:53, 22 April 2025 (EDT)
::::::::: Sweet, I'll be excited to see what you write up! Tell us here when you do :) ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 13:58, 22 April 2025 (EDT))
:I made a first draft of the UK write-up at my sandbox [[User:Wildstrike/Sandbox/United_Kingdom|here]]. It is not at all done I'm passing this through the people to make sure I didn't get anything wrong, and to hear out any suggestions. Also I didn't mention the Tandy's Galactic Man figure because it doesn't seem to be exclusive to to the UK. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 11:14, 26 April 2025 (EDT)
::Hey, it's good, short but very well-cited! I do think Galactic Man merits at least a brief one-line mention since apparently the UK was the only other territory beyond the U.S. where it was released in (and also the UK Galactic Man might be slightly different, per how the pre-TF page describes him as [[Pre-Transformers#Pre-Transformers lines|"''almost'' identical"]]?), but otherwise, I have no disagreement with the information presented here. Very curious to see how you're gonna expand on that draft! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 18:46, 27 April 2025 (EDT))
:::Okay, I did a bit of research and according to the [https://astromagnum.blogspot.com/2024/04/galactic-man-tandy-radio-shack-shackwave.html Astro Magnum] blog the Tandy version of Galactic Man has slightly different packaging, different stickers, and is made of materials more resistant to the yellowing prevalent in the Radio Shack versions of the toy. I'll be sure to edit the draft when I have time. Also, I found about an [https://batterseapowerstation.co.uk/retailers/transformers/ official transformers store] at the Battersea power station which I plan on incorporating at some point. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 11:49, 28 April 2025 (EDT)
:Ooohh, here's a pretty cool thing that I found out which definitely should be added to the Peru page: there's a mall [https://www.facebook.com/MuseoTF with a Transformers toy museum within it], and apparently it's been in operation since 2020! It even features a display specifically for [https://scontent.flis9-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/483676983_1040341464571272_305592738604936521_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=127cfc&_nc_ohc=OsCqdAxWZTQQ7kNvwGe1-WQ&_nc_oc=Adn6enKyI9P6hsp1VO2t492l7iu8t1CtWQCm3bbMYXOemGAOpKTj-0fB96Co-Jhqnm4&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent.flis9-1.fna&_nc_gid=0aKRlr6ClLSdhzhjlFM8cA&oh=00_AfFq1ClChLr67ItyZAhHBe0MPRKxcrRFUfQLY48v0THRPA&oe=68149CCC Transformers stuff made in Peru], which I think would be a great photographic addition to the article :) ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 20:36, 27 April 2025 (EDT))

:I've finally expanded my write-up (link [[User:Wildstrike/Sandbox/United_Kingdom|here]]), and would like to receive comment on it if possible. As for the ''Transformers'' store I mentioned above, I'm not quite sure how to incorporate it into the rest of the article and am debating just leaving it in the notes section. [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 12:06, 30 May 2025 (EDT)
::Hey, sorry for taking so long to review it but it's good! I think the Transformers store can be added as its own small (even if one-line) paragraph in the section, no need to throw it all the way down to notes when it's a definitely pretty relevant to the history of Transformers in the UK. Regardless, I'd say it's time to go live with that section! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 00:24, 12 June 2025 (EDT))
:::It's finally live baby! As you may have noticed, I decided to expand the section a little bit more and mention some of the other British people that have worked on Transformers over the years as well as [[BotCon Europe 1999]], I hope you're happy with all the changes. — [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 15:05, 12 June 2025 (EDT)
:Per recent edits, I'm scratching out the UK and Peru pages off the list, as they now also have proper "Transformers in [Country]" sections (great job on the UK one by the way, it's pretty extensive and rich in information and I feel like I learned quite a few new things with it!). I also added Germany and Vietnam to the list, so if any TF fans from those nationalities are around to see this some help in filling those out wold be greatly appreciated! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 08:22, 18 June 2025 (EDT))

== Size of this page ==

Could someone archive the last year on this page? It's getting ridiculously long and is hard to scroll through. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 19:48, 15 April 2025 (EDT)
:Done. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:25, 15 April 2025 (EDT)

== ToonTown / Korean Transformers that might or might not be bootlegs ==
Hey, so... What do we do about [https://x.com/tfwiki/status/1036114311142363136?lang=ar this], and [https://lmb3.net/2024/12/29/blog-2500-toy-review-transformers-korean-modified-optimus-prime/ this], and [https://tformers.com/daily-prime-korean-generation-2-optimus-prime-gold-watch/43599/news.html this], and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYJ8Nev7DGo this]? It basically seems like there's a massive ambiguity as to whether or not these toys are bootlegs, and while at least one of them (see the recently-edited "Globo" section on the [[knockoff]] page) has distinct bootleg origins, it's also worth remembering that there is [[Radio AM Robot|at least one known case of a bootleg being later rebranded into an official Transformers toy]], so... Maybe this is not much of an indicator?

In the replies to that first tweet, there's a person who says that "[https://x.com/tfwiki/status/1036114311142363136/ Hasbro's legal stance is that if it has their copyright on the box, it is an official product. This is what they've told me in the past when inquiring about other products]". Assuming that this is the case, and given that all of these have a Hasbro copyright on their packaging despite how genuinely weird they are, should we add them to their respective character pages, as well as maybe creating a separate page for ToonTown as a Transformers-associated company? The [[Soundwave (G1)/merchandise#Transformers Gum|Soundwave]] and [[Starscream (G1)/merchandise#Transformers Gum|Starscream]] ''Transformers Gum'' tabs already mention their ToonTown releases, so it seems like it kind of follows to add the others, no? I've left them a mention on the knockoff page as of now, but it would be good to get a final decision as to where exactly they should stay on this wiki. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 21:58, 19 April 2025 (EDT))
:Decades ago, [[Raksha]] wrote that the Toon Town stuff had been released in both South Korea and Taiwan (https://web.archive.org/web/20080917123934fw_/http://www.plumed-serpent.com/swartifacts.html). Added to what you wrote above, I believe that is the sum of all the knowledge we have on the issue, so it would be hard to write an article about it. I agree that since we have the Soundwave and Starscream stuff, the other confirmed releases are fair game to include too. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:18, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
::Here's another one, this time not saying Toon Town, still showing the "real" logos and symbols, and said by its owner to be a knockoff: https://toy-wizards.com/2019/03/16/super-rare-korean-transformers-toys-at-tf-con-and-the-conspiracy-theory-behind-them/?amp I'm really drawing a blank on Toon Town and it is possible we will never get enough verified info to be worth an article here. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:53, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
:::One more source for now: http://fredsworkshop.com/vkorea.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:57, 7 May 2025 (EDT)

::::Argh, another, and with even more links at the bottom, and were no closer to a conclusive truth. http://fredsworkshop.com/vkorea5.html --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 19:05, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
:::::For what it's worth, I think it'd be good to have a page laying out the ambiguity of the matter, explaining what we know and how hard to verify it all is. Sorta like the [[unknown Generation 1 animation studios]]. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 19:35, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
:::::: Yeah, I'd agree with this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:45, 7 May 2025 (EDT)
::::::: Seconding this, it seems like we have more than enough to at least create an article about this weird company that explains the ambiguity. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 01:15, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
:Alright, as per the above discussion, the [[ToonTown]] article is now up! I didn't go over every source mentioned here yet and therefore still haven't added every ToonTown-branded figure to it (and neither to the character pages, the currently existing wikilinks just to go their broader toy sections for now), but hopefully this is a good start. Would love to see your contributions to this page, if you have any to give! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 09:09, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
::Update, the remaining ToonTown toys and merchandise that I could find has also been added. Turn out to be a shorter affair than expected! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 09:53, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
:::Thank you for setting this up so quickly! I am doing my best to state very clearly that these might or might not be legit, that if they're knockoffs they aren't like your typical ones... The last thing I'd ever want would be for this wiki to give people the sense that fake stuff was real, but we can present the nebulous case and leave it to readers to judge. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:58, 8 May 2025 (EDT)
::::All good! This is just such an interesting case that it does really feel like it needs to be in the wiki insofar as we don't know whether or not they're fake. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 11:07, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
::Hey, Google Lens led me to the discovery of another ToonTown oddity and I'd love some community help in finding out more about it before it's added into the article: [https://m.blog.naver.com/eoiipp/130144214329 This Optimus Prime model kit] doesn't appear to be based on any Kabaya / Transformers Gum kit that I know of (and the Transformers Gum section on the Optimus merchandise page says that his ToonTown kit comes as a pack-in with Starscream rather than being a standalone like this one), and in fact; he actually looks to be fairly sizable and complex compared to the usual Kabaya affair. On [https://m.totoy.com/product/%EB%AF%B8%EB%8B%B4%EC%82%B0%EC%97%85-%ED%8A%B8%EB%9E%9C%EC%8A%A4%ED%8F%AC%EB%A8%B8-g2-%EB%A1%9C%EB%B4%87-%ED%8A%B8%EB%A0%88%EC%9D%BC%EB%9F%AC-%EC%98%B5%ED%8B%B0%EB%A8%B8%EC%8A%A4-%ED%94%84%EB%9D%BC%EC%9E%84/5333/ this listing] for the same kit, you can zoom in and see what seems to be the usual ToonTown / 3D Licensing International markings, but most importantly; both of those links identify him as being made by a company called "Midam Industry" which even seems to have its own unique logo on the upper right corner of the toys (albeit it's pretty difficult to make out with how low-res all these pictures are), but that I can't find anything about them on the web. Does anyone know more about this Midam Industry Optimus, as well as maybe potentially being aware of other kits from the same series? Cheers! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 16:46, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
:::After searching for a little while, I believe that this is, in fact, the only Transformers kit released by Midam Industry (although it has a handful of variants!), thus; it - as well as a Midam Industry entry - has been added to their respective pages. I've taken the liberty to classify it as a toy rather than a piece of merchandise since it is, for the standards of a Transformers model kit, actually a fairly elaborate and fully-transforming model that doesn't really seem to count as "merchandise" in the same way that Transformers Gum stuff does (it doesn't even come with any food!) - hopefully others will be in agreement on this. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 19:16, 8 May 2025 (EDT))
::::And, just as I thought I was done with editing the ToonTown page for the day, I realized that the packaging for these kits advertises other kits, even though no pictures of those seem to be available. Aw well, duty calls... ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 19:31, 8 May 2025 (EDT))

== Proposing a "The Transformers (Latin American toylines)" page ==
So the title is self-explanatory, but basically; I've noticed that our Generation 1 navbox is missing the many, many Latin American Transformers G1 toylines like those produced by [[Estrela]], [[Antex]], [[Lynsa]], [[IGA]], etc. Since there might be way too many for them to all to be individually listed in the navbox, and since we already have the "[[The Transformers (toyline)]]" (for the US toyline), "[[The Transformers (European toyline)]]", "[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1 (Japanese toyline)]]", and "[[The Transformers (Chinese toyline)]]" pages all on the navbox, shouldn't we also make a "The Transformers (Latin American toylines)" page where we list all of the known releases from the various Latin American toylines, with the eventual addition of some "Main article" tags for the manufacturers of each of those toylines? ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 19:49, 24 April 2025 (EDT))
:I don't think the toyline or name was consistent across Latin America, so it would be more "Generation 1 toylines in Latin America"?
::That's fair, it is true that most of them removed the 'The' prefix and were usually just called ''Transformers''. Since we don't use the ''The Transformers'' name for the Japanese toyline page then it does make sense to also not use it in this instance. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 22:33, 24 April 2025 (EDT))
:[[Generation 1 toylines in Latin America|Page has been made!]] ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 17:17, 25 April 2025 (EDT))

== Free Comic Book Day Worst Bot Ever preview ==

I know it’s standard procedure not to create articles for comic issues until the issue actually comes out, even if a small preview is officially released online. But I’m wondering if the Ballpoint preview issue should be an exception? It is just the online page preview Skybound put out a few months ago (I believe with a couple new pages), but since it is an officially released physical comic issue that new fans will be picking up and wanting to research, I figure there’s an argument to create the article now with what we know and simply update it when the graphic novel proper comes out. For now, the article would cover what’s in the FCBD issue, and when it comes out proper we’d add to/replace it with a full synopsis and include a note about how the first 16 pages were released on FCBD. Thoughts? [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 16:58, 3 May 2025 (EDT)

== Shattered Glass and cross-continuity-family pages ==

Felt like this was worth being discussed in its own section, so: at present, [[Unicron]], [[Primus]] and [[Alpha Trion]] all have dedicated "Shattered Glass" subpages suited out. They're unique in this respect; every other page for concepts that span multiple continuity families keep the Shattered Glass versions on the same page as everything else. A good example is [[Spark]]; even though Embers have a different name and are supposedly fundamentally different in the mirror universe, they still share a page. If we're going to treat Unicron, Primus and the Thirteen like cross-continuity concepts, rather than how we treat most characters, then I don't think we should make an exception to that for Shattered Glass.

To be clear, '''this is NOT proposing that we merge all Shattered Glass characters into their G1 counterparts'''. My position is that Shattered Glass is its own continuity family, and so we keep their pages separate, and I don't think there's something special about Shattered Glass that makes it an exception to what we're doing with the cross-continuity pages. Input would be appreciated. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:52, 14 May 2025 (EDT)
: I agree. Especially because Primus and Unicron have about a paragraph's worth of information on them each. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 18:21, 14 May 2025 (EDT)
: SG is different enough that the character pages should be separated somehow. Otherwise it’d be jarring for those unfamiliar with SG to have the one batshit crazy evil Alpha Trion in and amongst all the nice ones. Personally, I’m on the same boat as Sabrblade back up in the Thirteen discussion from a few months ago. I think suite pages are a useful tool, not a necessary evil. It’s somewhat subjective, but I can see suite pages used in this way for other cross-continuity concepts where one universe diverges far enough from the norm. [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 18:49, 15 May 2025 (EDT)
::Moreso than one crazy evil [[Star Saber (G1)|Star Saber]] in and among all the nice ones? I don't think you're giving readers enough credit, frankly. If we opened the section "In one mirror universe, Alpha Trion was not a kindly mentor, but a cruel manipulator" I don't think anyone would think twice. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:25, 15 May 2025 (EDT)
:::Touché. [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 02:04, 16 May 2025 (EDT)
:I was waiting to weigh in until the Alpha Trion merge was fully complete, but I now feel comfortable saying this strikes me as basically reasonable, both conceptually and in terms of the small volume of material involved. The Fallen's [[The Fallen#Shattered Glass|''Shattered Glass'' content]] is already folded into his main page by necessity, after all. I do think people might feel less skittish if we more clearly telegraphed that the 13+2 were unique character/concept article hybrids not to be used as precedent down the food chain. Maybe something like:
::* Category:Concept-Characters
::*With a description like, "These subjects act as facets of the ''Transformers'' brand's baseline worldbuilding first and characters in their own right second. For the defunct fictional concept riffing on this phenomenon, see [[multiversal singularity]]."
:Is that anything? --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 18:20, 26 May 2025 (EDT)
::I like that idea. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 20:52, 26 May 2025 (EDT)
:::Seems like an excellent idea to me! --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 00:07, 27 May 2025 (EDT)
::::Yeah, seems alright for now. However, I do think it's worth having some kind of plan in place in case a concept-character winds up getting expanded on in the future. — [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 04:50, 2 June 2025 (EDT)
::::: I do like the category idea. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:51, 5 June 2025 (EDT)
Last call for objections before I go ahead with this? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 16:01, 12 June 2025 (EDT)
:I think there's an exception to be made for Alpha Trion, as the SG page is pretty long, and still incomplete, but otherwise, yeah; was surprised by how short SG Primus and Unicron's articles are. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 16:24, 12 June 2025 (EDT)
:: It's not very long compared to the rest of the page, especially considering the toys are already on Trion's toys page. I feel like if we were gonna split a section off for length reasons it'd be Generation 1. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 20:55, 12 June 2025 (EDT)

== Interwiki link request ==

Having reached another milestone in my ongoing project to document the non-''Transformers'' [[back-up strips]] printed in the Marvel UK book, I'd like to request that tfuk.app (<tt><nowiki>https://tfuk.app/wiki/$1</nowiki></tt>) gets added to the interwiki table. Thanks. [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 11:11, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
:Goddamn, this is an incredible amount of work: more than being added to the interwiki table, it frankly feels worthy of being pinned into the "sister wikis" section on the opening page. Great job! ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 12:08, 20 May 2025 (EDT))
::Seconding Fortress on front page sister wiki status, frankly. --[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 12:31, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
::Thirded on adding it to the sister wikis list, that’s amazing. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 16:07, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
::Fourthing! -- [[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 10:19, 21 May 2025 (EDT)
:That seems eminently reasonable: [[tfuk:Main Page|The Transformers UK Appendix]] --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:15, 20 May 2025 (EDT)
::Thank you! [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 17:32, 20 May 2025 (EDT)

== Skybound’s Marvel compendium edits ==

So I’ve got Skybound’s [[The Transformers Compendium Volume 1]] in hand and am reading it. I was under the impression that Skybound was, for the most part, just using IDW’s Classics reprint with maybe some polish here and there, but comparing Skybound’s version to the wiki notes about IDW classics edits, there are actually several changes from those that are going to need to be noted on each issue’s article. (For instance, the Wheeljack/Hoist panel comparison on [[I, Robot-Master!]] has a new color scheme to add to it.) Are we gonna want to make a new section on each article underneath the “Classics edits” one? Are we gonna want to wait until the Kickstarter-exclusive versions come out so we can do it all at once? (I’m just talking about differences I’ve noticed while ''skimming'' articles; I imagine there are lots more. This is the first time I’ve read the comic and thus I don’t have originals/IDW reprints to directly compare to. Just something I wanted to bring to your guys’ attention.) [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 02:04, 1 June 2025 (EDT)
:Making a new section under "Classics Edits" seems like the best move. As for the second question, I feel it would be best if we started making note of the changes now so that there will be less work to when the Kickstarter exclusives do release. — [[User:Wildstrike|Wildstrike]] ([[User talk:Wildstrike|talk]]) 04:58, 2 June 2025 (EDT)

== Continuity of origin listings? ==
I happened to see the [[Sentius Magnus]] and [[Sentius Malus]], and that sent me looking to see if there were any other new characters unique to [[Transformers: Earth Wars|Earth Wars]]. When I couldn't find any such listing, I realized I don't think we have any real way to identify original characters by their original continuity. Might it make sense to have, say, categories for brand-new characters that originated in each continuity? i.e. "Earth Wars original characters" or "IDW 2005 original characters" or "Marvel comics original characters", etc? Or, if not categories, some way of compiling that information? Also, to be clear, I wouldn't consider characters that began as toys to be original to whatever fiction they first appeared in; this would just be for the likes of the aforementioned Sentius twins, or [[Xaaron]], or [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]], or [[Tarn (G1)|Tarn]]. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 06:29, 16 June 2025 (EDT)
:I think that would be a good idea, and very helpful organization-wise. (Also, you’re correct in that there are no other TFEW-original characters beyond maybe SB Optimus Prime and SB Megatron.) - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 09:09, 16 June 2025 (EDT)
: I feel that would be unnecessary, fans can find it out by looking at the work page. [[User:Vrung|Vrung]] ([[User talk:Vrung|talk]]) 16:53, 16 June 2025 (EDT)
::Unless there's a way I missed, the only way to "figure it out" by looking at the work page is to individually check the pages for every single listed character appearance to see if they've ever appeared anywhere else. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 20:33, 16 June 2025 (EDT)

==Concept characters and sorting by continuity family==
Based on discussions above, I've implemented [[:Category:Deep lore characters|Category:Concept characters]] to cover things like the Thirteen and Primus and Unicron. However, I've noticed that these pages seem to have been rearranged so they aren't sorted by continuity family, except in the case of the movie and Aligned families? I gather that it's to "preserve the flow of conceptual development", but that seems silly when we have "conceputal history" sections on the relevant characters. Other concept pages (e.g. [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] are sorted by family, so this just seems unintuitive. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 19:49, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:I agree; we've always tried to sort concepts and ideas by continuity family and it's more confusing if we start arbitrarily enforcing this standard on some pages but not on others. [[User:Locoman|Locoman]] ([[User talk:Locoman|talk]]) 20:00, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
::I concur that how we've been organizing big pages like this by continuity family makes sense, especially if they have "Conceptual history" sections. Like, it's weird to jump around from a G1 section, to a Beast Era section, to a UT section, and then back to a G1 section, then to a Movie section, then Aligned, then back to another G1, then back to another Movie, then back to G1 again, then Cyberverse, then G1 again, then another Movie, and so forth. Just let the "Conceptual history" sections do their job. And if there isn't one, then, well... why not make one? They only ''enhance'' each article that has one. I'd say an article like "[[Cybertron (planet)]]" could definitely benefit from a good "Conceptual history" section of its own. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 20:00, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:::Agreed on all fronts. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:20, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
I think if we're going to have cross-continuity pages for whatever reason, because the "continuity family" thing isn't working... why then organize the pages that way? "G1 continuity family" is a unit of wiki organization, not a Real Thing either narratively or creatively, unlike Aligned or Movieverse. That feels like trying to have our cake and eat it—either we're organizing things by continuity family or we aren't. IDW Megatronus is more linked to Aligned Megatronus than Dreamwave Fallen. Why does it make sense to put IDW and Dreamwave together in terms of the character? Forget arbitrary wiki categorization for a minute and ask what's the intended throughline there. Are we presenting the character's evolution in a logical way or are we simply sticking to continuity families because arbitrary wiki organization? (Also an excessive amount of tiny headers as you force them all down one level looks awful.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:00, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:I don't buy that "movieverse" is any less arbitrary than "G1 continuity family". None of the Alpha Trion entries sorted under "movie continuity family" have anything to do with each other. I would argue that using continuity families for these pages provides a reasonable measure of organisation to make it easier to find specific fiction entries rather than having to scroll through the entire history of the character. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 21:19, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
::Not to beat the dead horse, but that's why we had separate pages in the first place. Movieverse fiction uses the movies as the fundamental springing board for their narrative (and is especially relevant to the Fallen). G1 does not have that and is purely organized by aesthetics and convenience. Why are Cyberverse, EarthSpark, and Wild King not "G1" while IDW1 is? Arbitrary convenience. Which is fine, but it still drills in the point that it's not a meaningful categorization narratively or creatively, especially if we're going to eschew it at the article level regardless. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:51, 18 June 2025 (EDT
:::I simply think we should be consistent about how we sort fiction sections within "concept" articles. To use [[Cybertron (planet)]] as an example again, should we no longer organise the fiction entries on that page by continuity family? If you think so, fine, but I think that's a poor idea. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 21:55, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
::::That page seems to eschew the Fiction header in the first place (which does take care of my tiny header complaint, I suppose), so it's not quite consistent to begin with. But I don't really consider location and character pages to have the same considerations; Cybertron is pretty much the same across all continuities (backstory varies, yes, but mechanical homeworld of the Transformers is always the status quo) while characters are always shifting, changing, and bringing forward new ideas into next iterations. (Gun to my head, yes, I would prefer chronological, but planet articles are not a priority to me.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 22:09, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:::::Right, but the thing about the Thirteen et al is that they ''don't'' have the same considerations as other characters, so we treat them the same as other cross-continuity concept articles. I don't think they should have their own unique format that's the only thing on the wiki that ''completely'' eschews continuity families for organisation. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:59, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
Two questions: 1. Are we talking about just the organization of Thirteen/Primus/Unicron pages or across the board, new standard for all pages? 2. For either side (organize by continuity family vs organize by chronology/release date), are there examples of pages with either formatting that can serve as proof of concepts or visuals that show why that specific way is the better one? [[User:Daytonjhammon|Daytonjhammon]] ([[User talk:Daytonjhammon|talk]]) 21:15, 18 June 2025 (EDT)

Bit of an aside but is there a different or more distinct category name we could use? For me and most tf fans I know "Concept characters" brings to mind "concept art" characters, aka unused designs and the like. I think renaming it to "Cross-continuity concept characters" or something similar would make it clearer. —[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 22:39, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
:That would be fine by me, yeah. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 22:59, 18 June 2025 (EDT)
::Yeah, this was the problem that jumped out at me when I first saw the term proposed. Some other suggestions: continuity-agnostic, pan-continuity, meta-continuity, conceptual, lore, mythological, cosmological, multiversal, archetypal, foundational. I don't have a strong preference, just throwing these out there. —[[User:The Wadapan|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 12:54, 19 June 2025 (EDT)
:::conceptual, lore, and mythological feel a bit too... intangible ig? multiversal is way too close to multiversal singularity imo. I'd say continuity-agnostic, pan-continuity or meta-continuity would all be good. (personally leaning towards meta-continuity) [[User:Arren1234|--Arren Meuchel]] ([[User talk:Arren1234|talk]]) 14:41, 19 June 2025 (EDT)

I'm definitely sympathetic towards [[User:Saix|Saix]] with regards to this specific change. The Thirteen are pretty much the tentpole for the "aligned" worldbuilding which pretty much marked the ''end'' of continuity families in the traditional sense, from a creative perspective at Hasbro (not that the concept was one they were considering to begin with). As he says, everything is G1 now, IDW is aligned, ''Cyberverse'' is IDW, and so on. After consideration I prefer the way he's laid it out. ''However'', there's also obviously an argument to be made from a wiki-consistency standpoint, and I want to state for the record that I don't think such a major reorganisation of those pages' contents should have been implemented without a consensus being reached on talkpages ''first''. This should have been a sandboxed proposal, not just something that was done hoping nobody would notice or care enough to raise an objection themselves. —[[User:The Wadapan|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 12:54, 19 June 2025 (EDT)

I apologize if I'm a bit off-base here, since I haven't been following these discussions as closely as some, but it seems to me that there are fundamentally two different things that are being presented here: the evolution of the character concept, and the actual fictional history of the various iterations of the character. If that's the case, wouldn't a good solution be to make a separate section for the former while continuing to organize the latter by continuity family like every other page? -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 14:57, 19 June 2025 (EDT)

== Commentary trivia ==

Something I find a bit sad is commentary sounding Trivia having to be deleted from episode pages. Those are funny and can be interesting to see, shame they also hog space. Can there be a middle ground where I cam dump them into, say, wild king episodes Synopsis without sounding...unprofessional? (Because the commentary is one of the best parts of some episode descriptions...)[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 00:02, 3 July 2025 (EDT)

== Mentioned characters ==

Something I did back when I was revamping our coverage of the BotCon/Club stuff was add a "mentioned characters" section to the notes; for examples, see [[Cybertron's Most Wanted]], [[Gone Too Far]], and other stories linked to on the [[Transformers Timelines (fiction)]] page. It's something that we lack on other pages, and I think that it's worth implementing; in particular, when looking through some of James Roberts' work recently for a side project, I was struck by how often characters that otherwise never appear on page are mentioned. What I wanna propose is adding something like to this our media pages in general.

The Problem: I think that the benefits speak for themselves, but it does also come against the fact that we have hundreds (if not thousands) of episodes/comics/other media by this point, and that it's going to be a non-trivial amount of work getting this up to speed. For that reason, I don't really think a template is the best way to go about, especially if they're going to be sitting empty until someone goes back to read those comics or rewatch that episode or whatever. What I do think might be worth considering is that we add in something about doing it for media pages in their notes section here on out, so that we can have a headstart on at least the currently published stuff; once it becomes something feasible for a template on various pages, then I think we can revisit that idea. For my end, I've been contemplating a re-read of the comics for a few years now, and I'm more than happy to add stuff over the time I do that.

If anyone has any suggestions or comments, please respond here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:22, 9 July 2025 (EDT)
:I always liked how Wookieepedia lists every proper noun in "Appearances" sections ([https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_V_The_Empire_Strikes_Back#Appearances example]). I think this concept should expand to include locations, weapons, et al.—basically everything we would make a page for. Yes, it's work to add stuff, but that's editing. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 10:32, 9 July 2025 (EDT)
::That sounds like something that could be pretty beneficial information-wise, even if it’s a lot of work. I can definitely start doing something like it for my ''Earth Wars'' write-ups as I go through the event stories. - [[User:IGEBM13|IGEBM13]] ([[User talk:IGEBM13|talk]]) 10:49, 9 July 2025 (EDT)
:I definitely remember thinking—back when you were regularly working on the Fun Publications pages—that your exhaustive approach to filling out the notes sections with mentioned characters and concepts was ''really useful'', but that it could stand to be formalised in some way. As you say, it'd be a huge amount of work to bring articles for even the most popular stories up to that standard. —[[User:The Wadapan|wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 11:20, 9 July 2025 (EDT)
::I agree this is something it would be valuable to do going forwards. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]])

== Plagiarism on the other site ==
Basically every EarthSpark character page on the other site is a copy-paste of our own. Some of Cyberverse too. Do we care about this? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:34, 11 July 2025 (EDT)
:I think the important first question is whether there's any attribution (though I assume the answer will be no). -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 15:53, 11 July 2025 (EDT)
::As in, "this was written by TFWiki" or "this is a unique article we here at Fandom invented"? We can see which users have been doing the copy-pasting. There's one in particular who pasted in Earthspark content (just choose a character), another who has been doing some weapons (i.e. [[Electro-scrambler]]). I know full well that fan wikis tend to get copied, so if our position is to simply disregard everything Fandom does, we can stick to that. But their site has, supposedly, had a black-and-white policy dating right back to the split that copying from us is not allowed. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:29, 12 July 2025 (EDT)
:::I think it could be to try and make the fandom wikis page look as good the pages here are. I confess, I did the same to bulbapedia and the fandom pokemon wiki.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 13:12, 12 July 2025 (EDT)
:::I see no reason to not make a stink about it to whatever passes for admin there. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 13:14, 12 July 2025 (EDT)
::::Thylacine - According to CC BY-SA 3.0, they are free to copy our material as long as they provide credit that it was copied from us. If they ''don't'' do that, and I'm very much assuming they don't, then we should absolutely raise hell about it, as M Sipher suggests.
::::As an example, after Wowpedia moved to wiki.gg and became Warcraft Wiki, Fandom put a blanket ban on linking to wiki.gg (for bullshit reasons) and so we've been aggressively deleting any Wowpedia pages that were copied from us because they are functionally unable to provide proper attribution and their staff fucked up and never depowered one of our admins. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 14:31, 13 July 2025 (EDT)a
:::::They are definitely not providing any credit, and they also still have ''as their very first listed policy'' "no copying from Wikipedia or TFWiki." transformers dot fandom dot com/wiki/Transformers_Wiki:Policies#Plagiarism --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:29, 13 July 2025 (EDT)

Their site lists four admins, of whom two are obviously long retired. One who was last active in May is the source of some of the plagiarism, and also showed themself to be unresponsive to multiple direct questions posted on their wall by Fandom higher-ups. That leaves the one who was last active in June. I wrote that one a message summarizing all this as best I can, bearing in mind that systematically comparing pages on some other peoples' wiki is not at all something I am interested in doing. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:02, 14 July 2025 (EDT)
:Honestly, failing any response from their admins (which I will imagine will be the case), I think anyone happening to spot plagiarised material can happily just go ahead and delete it on the spot, citing their own policy of not copying from TFWiki. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:11, 14 July 2025 (EDT)
::A response: transformers dot fandom dot com/wiki/Message_Wall:Moviejunkie2009

::I msged the other suggested admins, no response. I did NOT msg the suggested Fandom "community manager" because they have no reason to help us, if anything I expect their response would be to simply erase the relict, circa-2008 anti-plagiarism policy that the current community knows nothing about.

::I do ''not'' enjoy scanning their New Articles page every day and maxing out my allowed daily edits by blanking the neverending incoming pasted pages. I am going to stop doing this. It pisses me off that a zero-effort community can ignore its own rules and steal our work, but it feels even worse to compulsively devote my free time to marginally cleaning up a zero-effort community's messes. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 20:07, 17 July 2025 (EDT)

== The General commercial with Bumblebee and Shaq ==

I think we should have information on this commercial for The General with Bumblebee and Shaq:

https://tformers.com/watch-bumblebee-shaq-acting-up-in-new-the-general-insurance-spot/55134/news.html
--[[User:John Pannozzi|John Pannozzi]] ([[User talk:John Pannozzi|talk]]) 13:11, 26 July 2025 (EDT)

April 10

2025-07-09T03:58:50Z

John Pannozzi:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|4|10}}</noinclude>

* '''???? —''' [[Marco Viloria]] (Mexican voice of [[Mandroid]]) is born.
* '''[[1937]] —''' [[Hans Teuscher]] (German voice of [[Theater Landlord]]) is born.
* '''[[1948]] —''' [[Angelo Nicotra]] (Italian voice of [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1]] [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and also [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[General Whalen]]) is born.
* '''[[1950]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (toyline)|Transformers: Beast Awakening]]'' brand ambassador [[Akiko Wada]] is born.
* '''[[1958]] —''' [[François Berland]] (French voice of [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] in ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|EarthSpark]]'') is born.
* '''[[1959]] —''' [[Yukiyoshi Ōhashi]] (writer for the ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'', ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Car Robots]]'' cartoons) is born.
* '''[[1960]] —''' [[Fátima Noya]] (Brazilian voice of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] and ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' [[Anna Baranova]]) is born.
* '''1960 —''' [[Cecília Lemes]] (Brazilian voice of [[June Darby]] and [[D. Greene]]) is born.
* '''[[1961]] —''' Composer [[Silvio Amato]] is born.
* '''1961 —''' [[James Taylor]] (director of the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' episode "[[Revelations Part I: Discovery]]") is born.
* '''[[1963]] —''' Musician [[Kal Swan]] is born.
* '''[[1967]] —''' Comic editor [[David Wohl]] is born.
* '''[[1968]] —''' [[Marcelo Coutinho]] (Brazilian voice of [[Slipstream (RID)|Slipstream]]) is born.
* '''[[1973]] —''' Singer [[Jun Yoneya]] is born.
* '''[[1977]] —''' Voice actress & ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' episode writer [[Stephanie Sheh]] is born to punish [[you]] in the name of the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]].
* '''[[1981]] —''' [[Perla Liberatori]] (Italian voice of [[Misha Miramond]]) is born.
* '''[[1998]] —''' Hitomi Arae of the [[Tokyo Girls' Style]] idol group is born.
* '''1998 —''' [[Lorenzo Crisci]] (Italian voice of [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]]) is born.
* '''1998 —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' series premieres in the [[United Kingdom]].
* '''[[2006]] — ''' The second show in the [[Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|''Kiss Players'' radio drama series]] airs in [[Japan]] on the "[[Lyrian]] Moe-tchao" program.
* '''2006 —''' ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]] — [[Paramount Pictures#Energon and Cybertron|A New Beginning]]'' is released on DVD in the UK by [[Paramount Pictures]].
* '''[[2010]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' episode "[[Transform and Roll Out|The Heroes Are Called Autobots]]" debuts in Japan.
* '''[[2013]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Regeneration One|Regeneration One]]'' [[Natural Selection, Part Five|#90]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2016]] —''' Fourth and final day of [[BotCon 2016]] in Louisville, Kentucky.
* '''2016''' — The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[Graduation Exercises]]" premieres on [[Cartoon Network]] UK.
* '''[[2023]] —''' Final day of the ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] & [[Optimus Primal (ROTB)|Optimus Primal]] World Tour in [[Singapore]].
* '''2023 —''' Street date for the ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (toyline)|Rise of the Beasts]]'' toyline.
* '''[[2024]] —''' ''[[Transformers (2023 comic)|Transformers]]'' [[Transformers (2023) issue 7|#7]] is released by [[Image Comics]] and [[Skybound Entertainment]].
* '''2024 —''' [[TakaraTomy]] officially reveals [[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Transformers Masterpiece]] MP-60 [[Ginrai]] & MPG-9 Super Ginrai
* '''2024''' —[[Transformers Night (The Masked Singer episode)|The Transformers Night episode of ''The Masked Singer'']] premieres on [[Fox]].
* '''[[2025]] —''' Preorders for the Premium Collectibles Studios Museum Scale [[Unicron]] Statue go up.

April 10

2025-07-09T03:58:18Z

John Pannozzi:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|4|10}}</noinclude>

* '''???? —''' [[Marco Viloria]] (Mexican voice of [[Mandroid]]) is born.
* '''[[1937]] —''' [[Hans Teuscher]] (German voice of [[Theater Landlord]]) is born.
* '''[[1948]] —''' [[Angelo Nicotra]] (Italian voice of [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1]] [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and also [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[General Whalen]]) is born.
* '''[[1950]] —''' ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (toyline)|Transformers: Beast Awakening]]'' brand ambassador [[Akiko Wada]] is born.
* '''[[1958]] —''' [[François Berland]] (French voice of [[Optimus Prime (ES)|Optimus Prime]] in ''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|EarthSpark]]'') is born.
* '''[[1959]] —''' [[Yukiyoshi Ōhashi]] (writer for the ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'', ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Car Robots]]'' cartoons) is born.
* '''[[1960]] —''' [[Fátima Noya]] (Brazilian voice of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] and ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'' [[Anna Baranova]]) is born.
* '''1960 —''' [[Cecília Lemes]] (Brazilian voice of [[June Darby]] and [[D. Greene]]) is born.
* '''[[1961]] —''' Composer [[Silvio Amato]] is born.
* '''1961 —''' [[James Taylor]] (director of the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' episode "[[Revelations Part I: Discovery]]") is born.
* '''[[1963]] —''' Musician [[Kal Swan]] is born.
* '''[[1967]] —''' Comic editor [[David Wohl]] is born.
* '''[[1968]] —''' [[Marcelo Coutinho]] (Brazilian voice of [[Slipstream (RID)|Slipstream]]) is born.
* '''[[1973]] —''' Singer [[Jun Yoneya]] is born.
* '''[[1977]] —''' Voice actress & ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' episode writer [[Stephanie Sheh]] is born to punish [[you]] in the name of the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]].
* '''[[1981]] —''' [[Perla Liberatori]] (Italian voice of [[Misha Miramond]]) is born.
* '''[[1998]] —''' Hitomi Arae of the [[Tokyo Girls' Style]] idol group is born.
* '''1998 —''' [[Lorenzo Crisci]] (Italian voice of [[Nightshade (ES)|Nightshade]]) is born.
* '''1998 —''' The ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' series premieres in the [[United Kingdom]].
* '''[[2006]] — ''' The second show in the [[Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|''Kiss Players'' radio drama series]] airs in [[Japan]] on the "[[Lyrian]] Moe-tchao" program.
* '''2006 —''' ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]] — [[Paramount Pictures#Energon and Cybertron|A New Beginning]]'' is released on DVD in the UK by [[Paramount Pictures]].
* '''[[2010]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' episode "[[Transform and Roll Out|The Heroes Are Called Autobots]]" debuts in Japan.
* '''[[2013]] —''' ''[[The Transformers: Regeneration One|Regeneration One]]'' [[Natural Selection, Part Five|#90]] is released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''[[2016]] —''' Fourth and final day of [[BotCon 2016]] in Louisville, Kentucky.
* '''2016''' — The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[Graduation Exercises]]" premieres on [[Cartoon Network]] UK.
* '''[[2023]] —''' Final day of the ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (film)|Rise of the Beasts]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] & [[Optimus Primal (ROTB)|Optimus Primal]] World Tour in [[Singapore]].
* '''2023 —''' Street date for the ''[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts (toyline)|Rise of the Beasts]]'' toyline.
* '''[[2024]] —''' ''[[Transformers (2023 comic)|Transformers]]'' [[Transformers (2023) issue 7|#7]] is released by [[Image Comics]] and [[Skybound Entertainment]].
* '''2024 —''' [[TakaraTomy]] officially reveals [[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Transformers Masterpiece]] MP-60 [[Ginrai]] & MPG-9 Super Ginrai
* '''2024 —[[Transformers Night (The Masked Singer episode)|''' The Transformers Night episode of ''The Masked Singer'']] premieres on [[Fox]].
* '''[[2025]] —''' Preorders for the Premium Collectibles Studios Museum Scale [[Unicron]] Statue go up.

Beastformers (franchise)

2025-02-16T03:36:48Z

John Pannozzi: /* Battle Beasts */

{{disambig2|the franchise|the species|Beastformer (species)}}
 
{{nav-beastformers}}
 
[[Image:BEASTFORMERS BACKcomp.JPG|right|upright=2.33|thumb|Collect every one of these incredible creatures who battle for fun! (''Subject to availability and Takara's whims'')]]

'''''Transformers: Beastformers''''' (トランスフォーマービーストフォーマー ''Toransufōmā Bīsutofōmā'')—later just '''''Beastformers''''', dropping the ''Transformers'' branding in its second year—is a sub-line/spin-off of the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'' toyline released in 1987, concurrent with the ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)#1987 (The Headmasters)|The Headmasters]]'' series. The series focuses on the titular [[Beastformer (species)|Beastformer]]s, a race of alien anthropomorphic animals from the planet [[Beast (planet)|Beast]], whose struggles intersect with those of the Transformers.

The toyline at the center of this series had been released in [[Hasbro]]'s markets the previous year, as 1986's '''''Battle Beasts'''''; the toys were developed jointly by the two companies, as most of the ''Transformers'' line was at this point. ''Battle Beasts'' had no fictional ties to ''Transformers'' whatsoever (it barely had fiction ''at all''), but as the toys are overwhelmingly identical between the two markets, most western fans consider them to be functionally the same thing as ''Beastformers'', and don't care if their "[[White Leo]]" is technically a "Pirate Lion". But since ''Beastformers'' is the one genuinely tied to ''Transformers'', this wiki defaults to using the Takara names, and only covers the Hasbro iteration of the line in brief for comparison.

==Fiction==
===''Beastformers''===
[[File:RebellionBeast Wheelie Daniel captured.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1|"I demand to speak to my lawyer."]]
''Transformers: Beastformers'' got its big fictional push with a {{w|backdoor pilot}} episode early in the [[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|''Headmasters'' cartoon]], "[[Rebellion on Planet Beast]]". In it, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] helps the evil [[Alligatron]] in his attempted takeover of Beast in exchange for prisoners of war, and the heroic Beasts put out a call for help from the Autobots, with of course the good guys winning in the end. After this episode, the series never returned to planet Beast again. A few toy-based Beastformers appeared as prisoners in a later episode, and a cartoon-original Beastformer played a small but vital role in yet another, but otherwise, that one episode makes up the bulk of original ''Transformers''-era ''Beastformers'' fiction. The Autobots and Decepticons return to Beast in a special installment of the [[Transformers: The Headmasters (manga)|''Headmasters'' comic]], "[[The Decisive Battle of Planet Beast!]]", although this would later be seemingly ignored/forgotten.

Outside of these handful of ''Transformers'' appearances, the main story of ''Beastformers'' was told through text stories included in numerous [[Beastformers catalog|pack-in pamphlets and catalogs]], which fleshed out the world of Beast a bit more. While at first tying in to the ''Headmasters'' episode (such as including the [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]] and [[Repugnus (G1)|Repugnus]]), those stories would eventually drop connections to ''Transformers'' as the ''Beastformers'' brand tried to establish its own identity.

[[File:Legends White Lune.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1|[[White Lune]], a new character from the Beastformers' 2017 ''Legends'' storyline.]]
When the series was given a soft-reboot sequel and rebranding as just ''Beastformers'' in 1988, the lore of planet Beast got even deeper, finally properly tying in the toys' Fire/Wood/Water theme that the previous fiction had all but ignored. The series introduced the [[Three Wise Ones]], ancient entities who founded planet Beast and were the progenitors of the [[Laser Beast]] race that later spawned the Beastformers. The [[Gems of Motion and Stillness|six gems balancing the powers of Fire, Wood and Water]] they left behind had become unbalanced due to the prior war (now ended) and were causing natural disasters. Worse still, said disasters flooded the subterranean home of the still-extant Laser Beasts, who moved to the surface and started a war of conquest. Once again, this story was mostly told through packaging blurbs and pack-in materials, with the characters' included bio cards expanding on the various societies of planet Beast. There were two "big" pieces of new fiction, in the form of two issues of the ''[[Hero Special]]'' mook (magazine/book) series: ''[[Hero Special 4: Beastformers]]'' and ''[[Hero Special 12: Laser Beasts]]''. Aside from character bios and setting text, these also featured fumetti "photonovel" comics assembled from photographs of the actual toys set up in diorama environments, telling the tales of major moments in the Beastformers' past and present (minus those pesky Transformers).

And after that, a whole lot of nothing as the ''Beastformers'' line ended. While there would be a few unnamed cameos in ''Transformers'' media here and there (mostly in Hasbro-backed media, amusingly enough), these rarely amounted to more than a single panel or obtuse reference in text. However, in 2017, the ''Beastformers'' story was picked up again in the [[Transformers Legends (comic)|''Transformers Legends'' comic]], beginning in "[[LG51 Doublecross Prologue|Vol. 47: LG51 Doublecross Prologue]]", continuing from the unconcluded Beastformer/Laser Beast war that had been untouched for the better part of three decades... notably tying it back to ''Transformers'' pretty extensively.
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===''Battle Beasts''===
[[File:BattleBeasts comic 1.GIF|upright=1|thumb|Blackthorne's ''Battle Beasts'' #1. Nobody you know ever owned this.]]
By contrast (and really only here for comparison/completion's sake), Hasbro's ''Battle Beasts'' was uncharacteristically light on any form of fiction for toylines of the time, especially Hasbro's. The cardbacks largely just advertised the Fire/Wood/Water play gimmick with a slight in-universe flavor. The characters' names were not even readily available to kids, with the only source to name them all being a mail-away poster... in fact, the cardbacks even said that each beast had two identical doppelgangers with different elements, so were all three [[Killer Fish|carp beasts]] named "Killer Carp", or...?

Comics publisher [[Blackthorne Publishing|Blackthorne]], the people responsible for the very short-lived ''[[Transformers in 3-D]]'' comics, put out a black-and-white ''Battle Beasts'' comic which was more successful than their ''Transformers'' one, in that it made it to ''four'' issues before being canceled. Good luck finding copies. Or even scans.

The comic is set on an unnamed planet inhabited by sentient, armored animals, each imbued with the power of one of the three elements: Water, Fire and Wood. Their powers and the health of their world are maintained by the Soulspirit, a ghostly figure that—strangely for a planet of talking animals—appears to be [[human]]. By keeping her animal charges and their nature totems in harmony, the Soulspirit helps maintain a balance that prevents the return of her ancient enemy Ruhin, the sludgy lord of chaos. An evil plot by the totem-switching, mind-controlling crime lord [[Green Chameles|Chameleon]], and his minions [[Devilbat|Blitzkrieg Bat]], [[Graysharp|Rocky Rhino]], and [[Cuttledeep|Cutthroat Cuttlefish]], disrupts the Soulspirit's planetary totem renewal ritual: the subsequent psychic totem disruption drives every creature on the planet insane and makes them start viciously attacking each other. The only beasts spared from this madness are Chameleon's forces and a small group of heroes ([[Drillfrog|Horny Toad]], [[Night Owl|Knight Owl]], and [[Bonga|Gargantuan Gorilla]]) who had already tried and failed to stop him. With their world now plunged into madness and nonstop war, the heroic faction must journey to find the one being on the planet—the near-mythical [[White Leo|Sunburst Warrior]]—who can restore the harmony and sanity of the Battle Beasts. But they must hurry, because the disruption of the balance of nature has also revived the evil Ruhin!

Not ''too'' unlike the 1988 ''Beastformers'' setup, by pure coincidence.

Additionally, in the UK, a ''Battle Beasts Special'' was published by [[Egmont]] in 1987 <ref>https://www.comics.org/series/116158/</ref>, and around the same time, ''Battle Beasts Annual 1988'' was published by World Distributors <ref>https://www.comics.org/issue/1766471/</ref>.

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==Toys==
[[File:BF-toy FireWaterWood.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|1) You hear that commercial in your head, admit it. 2) That lower row was the absolute ''$#!+'' to 80s kids. Major playground bragging rights.]]
Battle Beasts/Beastformers are soft-plastic figures of anthropomorphic animals in high-tech armor, each about 1.5 inches tall, with swivel-jointed shoulders and a weapon accessory. The fist-holes and weapon handles are 3 mm wide, making them compatible with numerous later ''Transformers'' toys, particularly the [[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse/Legion-class]] toys.

Both beast and weapon have an ID number molded into them, making matching easy; this would turn out to be incredibly helpful, as ''Beastformers'' is somewhat notorious for mismatching weapons and beasts. You'd get the right weapon more often than not, but "not" still happened a lot. While this was actually turned into part of the line's gimmick in its second incarnation (matching weapon and beast gave advantages in the attached dice-based game), it's unknown why this happened a good ''year'' prior to the game's introduction.

Each figure features a "Battle Emblem" [[rubsign]] that shows one of three "elemental powers": Fire, Water or Wood. Since the symbols were heat-activated, it was (mostly) impossible to determine what each toys' symbol was until they were freed from their packaging. These rubsigns were key to a simple rock-paper-scissors-style battle game: Fire burned Wood, Wood floated on Water, Water put out Fire. A fourth power, Burstsun, was a rare special power introduced later in the line; decades later, this would be reused as the personal emblem of the otherwise unrelated [[Solarbot]].

As ''Beastformers'', they were packaged in individual boxes with bio cards; the design of both would change multiple times over the course of the year (detailed below). These were typically set out in large display boxes holding 36 individual figures. ''Battle Beasts'' packaged them as two-packs with semi-randomized pairings (we're not about to try and suss out all the patterns) and no personal information whatsoever, with only a mail-away poster providing names for the beasts once the first three series were released. Both companies also put out multi-packs and larger vehicles; ''Beastformers'' vehicles came with specific pack-in characters, while ''Battle Beasts'' simply tossed in a random figure.

''Most'' of the normal ''Battle Beasts'' product was eventually released in ''Beastformers''. Both lines have a number of variants and toolings not available in the other, though ''Beastformers'' certainly has more individual figures all told, thanks to the late-run [[Laser Beast]] releases (only about half of which saw very short-lived and limited distribution in Hasbro markets). As noted, the overwhelming majority of the toys are physically identical between the Hasbro and Takara markets, with the only recurring difference between all toys a small manufacturing sticker added to the soles of the Takara toys (which tends to fall off and get lost over time).
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===''Transformers: Beastformers'' (1987)===
====Series 1====
[[Image:SnakeBomb-MIB.jpg|right|upright=.67|thumb|You can't keep me in here! I have to fight He-Man!]]
The initial assortment of Beastformers were packaged in ''Transformers''-style boxes, with Autobot-allied beasts in red boxes and Decepticon-allied in purple, with the familiar grid pattern below. These boxes are otherwise generic, with no individual names or marking on the packaging whatsoever, with a plastic window to show the beast inside. These were shipped in display cases of thirty-six individual boxes, with "Pack A" and "Pack B" styles: each case had twelve different beasts packed at three each, with six beasts unique to each case.

Like the other ''Headmasters'' toys of the time, each one also came with an individual bio card, with a painted character image on a red or purple grid on the front, and character data and line-art of the toy on the back. The cards were held in black sleeves to keep them hidden while in-package, as there was a chance the card would instead be the rare "[[Holography Mirror]]" card instead, with a hologram image [[Platinum Tiger]]'s toy on the front. It appears that this card was randomly packed in one box per case, but this has not been confirmed.

Oddly, despite the toys themselves having ID numbers molded into them (and their weapons), the bio cards do not have any form of ID number for the characters whatsoever, despite the other toys in the ''Transformers'' line having them.

The sleeves also contained a questionnaire pamphlet, and by sending five of these (filled out of course) to the address provided, the sendee would be entered into a drawing to win a [[Gnaw (G1)#Toys|Sharktron]] toy, which was not available in the normal-retail Takara ''Transformers'' line.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Pack A figures'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Alligatron#Toys|Alligatron]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Battle Bear#Toys|Battle Bear]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Big Serow#Toys|Big Serow]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Drillfrog#Toys|Drillfrog]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Elephan#Toys|Elephan]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Flykick#Toys|Flykick]]}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Golder#Toys|Golder]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Killer Fish#Toys|Killer Fish]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Snakebomb (Beastformers)#Toys|Snakebomb]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[White Leo#Toys|White Leo]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Wildthunder#Toys|Wildthunder]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Yellow Giraffe#Toys|Yellow Giraffe]]}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Pack B figures'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Beafox#Toys|Beafox]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Black Turtle#Toys|Black Turtle]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Bonga#Toys|Bonga]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Devilbat#Toys|Devilbat]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Grayox#Toys|Grayox]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Graysharp#Toys|Graysharp]]}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
?? 
?? 
?? 
?? 
?? 
?? 
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:BF-toy White Leo.jpg|upright=1|thumb|[[White Leo#Toys|White Leo]], face of the franchise.]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Mail-away prizes'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Sharkticon (species)#Toys|Sharktron]]}}
|}{{-}}

====Series 2====
At this point, ''Beastformers'' boxes changed to using green behind the grids for both sides, but kept the Autobot/Decepticon markings. The upper-right "flap" of the box also added the "Pack" letter of the shipping case, each one indicating a different randomly-packed prize card:

:'''C''' — The "[[Secret Photo]]" card featuring White Leo
:'''D''' — The "[[Bewitching Serpent Seal]]" card featuring Cobrander

Just as before, each case had six unique beasts, with twelve re-released Series 1 toys filling out the other halves. Once again kids could send away five filled-out pack-in questionnaires to enter a prize draw for a Transformer not available at retail, this time the "Firebot" [[Repugnus (G1)#Toys|Repug (aka Monsterbot Repugnus)]].

The pack-in bio cards also got a redesign at this point, with the returning characters' cards getting the change as well. The front of the card replaced the grid background with a forest backdrop framing a yellow sky, with the painted portrait in the middle. The nametags and cardbacks were otherwise the same style as before.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Pack C figures'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Bullorn#Toys|Bullorn]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Brown Gyro#Toys|Brown Gyro]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Dark Raccoon#Toys|Dark Raccoon]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Smileduck#Toys|Smileduck]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Strong Hippo#Toys|Strong Hippo]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Wavemoose#Toys|Wavemoose]]}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|Beafox (re-release)}}
{{Bp-d1|Black Turtle (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|Bonga (re-release)}}
{{Bp-d1|Devilbat (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|Flykick (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|White Leo (re-release)}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Pack D figures'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Beavop#Toys|Beavop]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Jungaroo#Toys|Jungaroo]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Power Jaguar#Toys|Power Jaguar]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Power Nozzle#Toys|Power Nozzle]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Red Octo#Toys|Red Octo]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Sea Iron#Toys|Sea Iron]]}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|Alligatron (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|Battle Bear (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|Big Serow (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|Golder (re-release)}}
{{Bp-d1|Killer Fish (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|Yellow Giraffe (re-release)}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|[[File:BF-toy RedOcto.jpg|thumb|upright=1|[[Red Octo#Toys|Red Octo]]]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Mail-away prizes'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Repugnus (G1)#Toys|Repug]]}}
|}{{-}}

====Series 3====
With the third wave release, the line expanded slightly, with a new multi-pack (including [[exclusive]] variations of the two leader figures), as well as a transforming "[[Fortress (Beastformers)|Fortress]]" that unfolds into a large playset.

The packaging for this series did not change at all outside of the "Pack" letters, and again, each case had six all-new beasts and six re-releases. The rare prize card was the same for each Pack type: the "VS [[Holography Mirror]]", a ''double'' hologram card showing Platinum Tiger or Green Chameles depending on which way your turned it. Repug even stuck around as the mail-in-drawing prize.

While the packaging didn't change much, the bio cards for the new characters did change in one very significant way: they no longer used the fully-painted character images, instead using the comic-style line-art used for the Hasbro ''Battle Beasts'' checklist-poster. The re-released characters, however, kept the "series 2" style cards.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Pack E figures'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Green Chameles#Toys|Green Chameles]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Iguanamonss#Toys|Iguanamonss]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Razorkukku#Toys|Razorkukku]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Strong Panda#Toys|Strong Panda]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Ultragas#Toys|Ultragas]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Undergroun#Toys|Undergroun]]}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|Alligatron (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|Beafox (re-release)}}
{{Bp-d1|Devilbat (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|Flykick (re-release)}}
{{Bp-d1|Killer Fish (re-release)}}
{{Bp-a1|White Leo (re-release)}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Pack F figures'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Baboon#Toys|Baboon]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Cuttledeep#Toys|Cuttledeep]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Eagle Killer#Toys|Eagle Killer]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Junior Dragon#Toys|Junior Dragon]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Night Owl#Toys|Night Owl]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Polar Battle Bear (Beastformers)#Toys|Polar Battle Bear]]}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
?? (re-release) 
?? (re-release) 
?? (re-release) 
?? (re-release) 
?? (re-release) 
?? (re-release)
|
|width="20%" valign="top", rowspan=2|[[File:BF-toy Iguanamonss.jpg|upright=1|thumb|[[Iguanamonss#Toys|Iguanamonss]]]][[File:BF-toy StrongPanda.jpg|upright=1|thumb|[[Strong Panda#Toys|Strong Panda]]]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Multi-packs'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1d1|Burstsun Special Set (type 1) ([[White Leo#Toys|Burstsun White Leo]], [[Black Jaguar#Toys|Black Jaguar]], [[Būpink#Toys|Būpink]], [[Dog Hunter#Toys|Dog Hunter]], [[Dream Eater#Toys|Dream Eater]], [[Muskhorn#Toys|Muskhorn]], [[Pangol#Toys|Pangol]], [[Slo#Toys|Slo]], [[White Cow#Toys|White Cow]], [[Udan#Toys|Udan]])}}
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{{Bp-a1d1|Burstsun Special Set (type 2) ([[Alligatron#burstsun|Ghost Alligatron]], Black Jaguar, Būpink, [[Crowmax#Toys|Crowmax]], [[Earthhog#Toys|Earthhog]], [[Mingo Kid#Toys|Mingo Kid]], Pangol, Slo, White Cow, Udan)}}
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Fortress'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Red Phoenix#Toys|Red Phoenix]] (w/ [[Flykick#Toys|Flykick]])}}
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Mail-away prizes'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Cobrander#ceramic|Ceramic Special Cobrander]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Repugnus (G1)#Toys|Repug]]}}
|}

{{note|The Burstsun Special set comes with two different sets of figures, but you don't know which set you get until you open it up. Yes, you had to get both sets for a complete collection. The non-White-Leo/Alligatron figures would be made available again later, with different bio cards.}}

Those familiar with ''Battle Beasts'' have probably noticed quite a few omissions in the above lists. Despite multiple checklists and promotional materials showing the full range of 76 figures found in ''Battle Beasts'', only 54 of them appear to have actually been released in ''Transformers: Beastformers''. Yes, even characters who ''appeared in the Beastformers episode of the Transformers anime'' were skipped in the ''Transformers'' line. Most of those missing toys ''would'' see release in the next version of the ''Beastformers'' toyline....


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===''Beastformers'' and ''Beastformers: Laser Beasts'' (1988)===
[[File:BF-toy Series4Boxes.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb]]
[[File:BF-toy Unarchy-Symbol.jpg|right|thumb|Laser Beast [[Unarchy]], with symbol [[gimmick]] on display.]]
In 1988, ''Beastformers'' became its own line, all ''Transformers'' branding excised from the packaging, now branded with the tagline "Role-Playing! Animal Army!!" (ロールプレーイング!アニマル軍団!! ''Rōru Purēingu! Animaru Gundan!!'', rendered as "Role Playing Animal Team" in English on the packaging). Importantly, this series saw the release of almost all the ''Battle Beasts'' figures that the ''Transformers: Beastformers'' line skipped, though in exchange many ''Transformers''-era figures didn't make the jump to the "RPG" line.

While the figures were still (mostly) released in individual boxes, the packaging got a near-total redesign, though the forest backdrop from the previous series' cards remained. These boxes showed maps of planet Beast on the back, made up of thirty-eight kingdoms, each ruled by two Beastformer warriors in a post-Transformers-war setting. These boxes are again generic, now across the entire line. Early versions of the boxes (Packs G and H) advertised the possibility that the included bio card inside could instead be a rare holofoil card with a "Burstsun" Battle Emblem packed into a small baggie on its back for you to affix to the Beastformer of your choice, but later (and seemingly more common) releases dropped all "rare card" promos and the "Pack" markings, and added a sticker on the bottom-front with the toy's name on it.

The pack-in cards were similarly reworked. While they still used the line art from the ''Transformers'' era cast poster, the art was completely recolored to be more accurate to the actual toys, plus some characters who were drawn with incorrect weapons got edited art with the correct ones. The back of these cards have a ''lot'' more character information, and details on the powers of their "[[MVP Weapon]]" including rules and point values for the new "[[Beastformers Role-Playing Game]]" for the line. Pack-in catalogs contained rules for the dice-based battle game. And the ID numbers on the toys were finally added to the cards and name-stickers.

At this point, many Beastformers were also made available in [[gacha|gashapon capsule machines]] for the same price as the normal boxed toys (200 yen). These toys lacked bio cards, and came with completely random weapons. More importantly, there were rare all-white/cream "Rare Type" versions of (supposedly) fifteen of the gashapon Beastformers, which nowadays go for a couple hundred dollars a pop. However, only twelve white/cream versions have been confirmed so far, and all of them from the original ''Transformers'' "series 1" lineup. (It is also up for debate as to how many of the normal toys were available in gacha machines: the included paperwork does not say how many were available, and also shows Brown Gyro, a Beastformer not available in the RPG line... but we've already established that Takara's ''Beastformers'' paperwork is pretty unreliable so maybe even that "15 white Beasts" thing is incorrect and there were only ever 12.)

At some point in this series, the Beastformers' rubsigns underwent a change. Later samples of the toys (as well as late-run Hasbro ''Battle Beasts'' releases) could have Battle Emblems that revealed ''full color'' Fire/Water/Wood illustrations rather than the mood-ring-style black outlines against a multi-hued backdrop. (It does not appear that there was ever a full-color Burstsun symbol.)

The standalone ''Beastformers'' line saw a major expansion of available product. The ''Battle Beasts'' motorized "Battle Chariots" and remaining two transforming "Transport Stations" were released in Japan as the "[[Head Hunter]]s" and "[[Fortress (Beastformers)|Fortress]]es" respectively, plus a re-release of the prior Red Phoenix Fortress in this new packaging style.

But most importantly, this series also introduced the '''[[Laser Beast]]s''' (レーザービースト, ''Rēzā Bīsuto'') subline, tagged "Role-Playing! Neo Animal Army!!" (ロールプレーイング!ネオアニマル軍団!! ''Rōru Purēingu! Neo Animaru Gundan!!'', rendered as "Role Playing Neo Animal Team" in English). This new faction of evil warriors emerged from an underground kingdom when the planet's three elements were out of balance and destroyed their home. Rather than having rubsigns, these beast warriors have [[light-piping|clear marbles that would reveal their randomly-installed Fire/Wood/Water element when looked through into a light source]]. And instead of melee weapons, they came with large rifles. A number of new mini-vehicles and multi-packs were also released for this series. Laser Beast packaging was different, with a shadowy-blue theme and strange alternate versions of the planet's continents shown on the hidden inner box-flaps. Oh, also they cost 50 yen more than the 200-yen Beastformers, sold in cases of 24 (12 beasts packed 2 each, a completely different lineup in each case).

The Laser Beasts were intended to be released in Hasbro's markets as the '''Shadow Warriors''', but they never made it to a wide release: packaged samples of the twelve "series 1" toys have been found, plus some even rarer samples of "Battle Chargers", individually-sold Shield Battlers that included characters who weren't sold as Shield Battlers in Japan. Because of this, as well as the somewhat short lifespan of the line at this point, Laser Beasts routinely go for hefty amounts on the secondary market even in Japan, easily demanding hundred-plus price tags apiece... ''especially'' the second series of individually-boxed figures and box sets.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="99.3%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Beastformers''' (Pack G)
*1 [[White Leo#Toys|White Leo]] (re-release)
*4 [[Flykick#Toys|Flykick]] (re-release)
*19 [[Hedgehog#Toys|Hedgehog]]
*20 [[Badshark#Toys|Badshark]]
*21 [[Bowdog#Toys|Bowdog]]
*22 [[Rabbit Kid#Toys|Rabbit Kid]]
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*23 [[Bluehorse#Toys|Bluehorse]]
*24 [[Giader#Toys|Giader]]
*25 [[Violethorn#Toys|Violethorn]]
*26 [[Bombsheep#Toys|Bombsheep]]
*27 [[Deaspider#Toys|Deaspider]]
*28 [[Crabhit#Toys|Crabhit]]
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Beastformers''' (Pack H)
*49 [[Flying Attacker#Toys|Flying Attacker]]
*50 [[Platinum Tiger#Toys|Platinum Tiger]]
*55 [[Koala Gray#Toys|Koala Gray]]
*69 [[Zebra Ball#Toys|Zebra Ball]]
*71 [[Duck Diver#Toys|Duck Diver]]
*75 [[Peguinis#Toys|Peguinis]]
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|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*??
*??
*??
*??
*??
*??
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|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=6|[[File:BF-toy RabbitKid.jpg|upright=1|thumb|[[Rabbit Kid#Toys|Rabbit Kid]]]][[File:BF-toy Peguinis.jpg|upright=1|thumb|[[Peguinis#Toys|Peguinis]]]][[File:BF-toy Tigerburn.jpg|upright=1|thumb|Laser Beast [[Tigerburn#Toys|Tigerburn]]]][[File:BF-toy WoodBeetle.jpg|uprhgt=1|thumb|[[Wood Beetle]] Fortress]][[File:BF-toy GreatestConfrontation box.jpg|upright=1|thumb|Beast Planet's Greatest Confrontation Set]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Beastformers''' (''Name-sticker box'')
*1 White Leo (re-release)
*2 [[Big Serow#Toys|Big Serow]] (re-release)
*4 Flykick (re-release)
*5 [[Killer Fish#Toys|Killer Fish]] (re-release)
*11 [[Battle Bear#Toys|Battle Bear]] (re-release)
*12 [[Devilbat#Toys|Devilbat]] (re-release)
*13 [[Bonga#Toys|Bonga]] (re-release)
*15 [[Alligatron#Toys|Alligatron]] (re-release)
*16 [[Beafox#Toys|Beafox]] (re-release)
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|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*17 [[Black Turtle#Toys|Black Turtle]] (re-release)
*35 [[Jungaroo#Toys|Jungaroo]] (re-release)
*43 [[Cuttledeep#Toys|Cuttledeep]] (re-release)
*45 [[Junior Dragon#Toys|Junior Dragon]] (re-release)
*46 [[Night Owl#Toys|Night Owl]] (re-release)
*53 [[Strong Panda#Toys|Strong Panda]] (re-release)
*54 [[Shield Dragon#Toys|Shield Dragon]]
*55 [[Koala Gray#Toys|Koala Gray]] (re-release)
*57 [[Black Jaguar#Toys|Black Jaguar]] (re-release)
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|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*58 [[Dream Eater#Toys|Dream Eater]] (re-release)
*59 [[Cobrander#Toys|Cobrander]]
*60 [[Baboon#Toys|Baboon]] (re-release)
*61 [[Dog Hunter#Toys|Dog Hunter]] (re-release)
*62 [[Būpink#Toys|Būpink]] (re-release)
*63 [[Razorkukku#Toys|Razorkukku]] (re-release)
*64 [[Muskhorn#Toys|Muskhorn]] (re-release)
*65 [[Pangol#Toys|Pangol]] (re-release)
*66 [[Slo#Toys|Slo]] (re-release)
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|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*67 [[Earthhog#Toys|Earthhog]] (re-release)
*68 [[White Cow#Toys|White Cow]] (re-release)
*69 [[Zebra Ball#Toys|Zebra Ball]] (re-release)
*70 [[Eagle Killer#Toys|Eagle Killer]] (re-release)
*71 [[Duck Diver#Toys|Duck Diver]] (re-release)
*72 [[Crowmax#Toys|Crowmax]] (re-release)
*73 [[Mingo Kid#Toys|Mingo Kid]] (re-release)
*75 [[Peguinis#Toys|Peguinis]] (re-release)
*76 [[Udan#Toys|Udan]] (re-release)
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Gashapon white versions'''
*1 [[White Leo#White|White Leo]]
*2 [[Big Serow#White|Big Serow]]
*3 [[Golder#White|Golder]]
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*4 [[Flykick#White|Flykick]]
*5 [[Killer Fish#White|Killer Fish]]
*11 [[Battle Bear#White|Battle Bear]]
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*12 [[Devilbat#White|Devilbat]]
*13 [[Bonga#White|Bonga]]
*15 [[Alligatron#White|Alligatron]]
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*16 [[Beafox#White|Beafox]]
*17 [[Black Turtle#White|Black Turtle]]
*18 [[Yellow Giraffe#White|Yellow Giraffe]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Laser Beasts''' (series 1)
*77 [[Blue Eagle#Toys|Blue Eagle]]
*78 [[Sparkshark#Toys|Sparkshark]]
*79 [[Sairon#Toys|Sairon]]
*80 [[Unarchy#Toys|Unarchy]]
*81 [[Tigerburn#Toys|Tigerburn]]
*82 [[Condorassin#Toys|Condorassin]]
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|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*83 [[Groundwolf#Toys|Groundwolf]]
*84 [[Flysailor#Toys|Flysailor]]
*85 [[Zariganian#Toys|Zariganian]]
*86 [[Rainbow Sam#Toys|Rainbow Sam]]
*87 [[Sur#Toys|Sur]]
*88 [[Brainmouse#Toys|Brainmouse]]
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Laser Beasts''' (series 2)
*89 [[Brown Lion#Toys|Brown Lion]]
*92 [[Hustlebear#Toys|Hustlebear]]
*95 [[Dragon Seahorn#Toys|Dragon Seahorn]]
*97 [[Sea Panic#Toys|Sea Panic]]
*98 [[Puzzlecolor#Toys|Puzzlecolor]]
*100 [[Scopecougar#Toys|Scopecougar]]
|
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*104 [[Jeerermonkey#Toys|Jeerermonkey]]
*105 [[Hornhead#Toys|Hornhead]]
*106 [[Monkeyfighter#Toys|Monkeyfighter]]
*107 [[Flying Dragon#Toys|Flying Dragon]]
*108 [[Kickback (LB)#Toys|Kickback]]
*110 [[Green Rayfer#Toys|Green Rayfer]]
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Battlecruisers'''
*[[Battle Buzzsaw]] (w/ [[Dinogator#Toys|Dinogator]])
*[[Battle Eagle]] (w/ [[Skybat#Toys|Skybat]])
*[[Battle Savanna]] (w/ [[Slag King#Toys|Slag King]])
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|width="20%" valign="top"| 
*[[Battle Drill#prizes|Battle Drill]] (yellow) (w/ [[Skullgrotes#Toys|Skullgrotes]]{{fact}})
*Battle Drill (red) (w/ [[Kingbuster#Toys|Kingbuster]])
*Battle Drill (blue) (w/ Kingbuster)
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Head Hunters'''
*[[Sheep Hunter]] (w/ [[Rabbit Kid#Toys|Rabbit Kid]])
*[[Stag Hunter]] (w/ [[Bombsheep#Toys|Bombsheep]])
*[[Tiger Hunter]] (w/ [[Platinum Tiger#Toys|Platinum Tiger]])
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Fortresses'''
*[[Red Phoenix]] (w/ [[Flykick#Toys|Flykick]])
*[[Shocking Shark]] (w/ [[Strong Hippo#Toys|Strong Hippo]])
*[[Wood Beetle]] (w/ [[Wavemoose#Toys|Wavemoose]])
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Multi-packs'''
* Perfect 6 Set ([[Crystal Killer Fish#Toys|Crystal Killer Fish]], [[Baboon#Toys|Baboon]], [[Cobrander#Toys|Cobrander]], [[Eagle Killer#Toys|Eagle Killer]], [[Shield Dragon#Toys|Shield Dragon]], and either [[Demonkey#Toys|Demonkey]] or [[Little Serow#Toys|Little Serow]])
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|width="20%" valign="top"| 
* [[Shield Battler-6]] ([[Grencats#Toys|Grencats]], [[Fighthorn#Toys|Fighthorn]], [[Battlefennec#Toys|Battlefennec]], [[Killerhound#Toys|Killerhound]], [[Stronghurricane#Toys|Stronghurricane]], [[Manteaufrenzy#Toys|Manteaufrenzy]], Red & Gray [[W Battler]]s)
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|width="20%" valign="top"| 
* Beast Planet's Greatest Confrontation Set ([[Platinum Tiger#Toys|Platinum Tiger]] w/ [[Tiger Hunter#Toys|Tiger Hunter]], [[Yellow Giraffe#Toys|Yellow Giraffe]], [[Golder#Toys|Golder]], vs [[Skullgrotes#Toys|Skullgrotes]] w/ gold [[Battle Drill#Toys|Battle Drill]], [[Kingbuster#Toys|Kingbuster]], [[Salmomancer#Toys|Salmomancer]])
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Other merch'''
* [[Beastformers Battlefield Map]]
|}

Finally... if you've been keeping track, you may have noticed that there are ''still'' two Battle Beasts/Beastformers missing from these lists. It does appear that, despite being in numerous checklists and whatnot across two different iterations of the line, even getting full "RPG" style bios, [[Scout Mouse]] and [[Yellow Camelus]] were ultimately never released in Japan.
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===''Transformers Legends''===
After three decades of nothing, new toys of ''Beastformers'' characters were released in Takara's ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Transformers Legends]]'' toyline, as the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] partners to the new [[Monsterbot (G1)|Monsterbot]] toys. These molds were originally designed for Hasbro's ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' line, and while the small robots were modeled after the ''Beastformers'' characters, Hasbro chose to give them different names, treating them as Cybertronians who just happened to look that way. Takara, however, took the last step and directly named them after their sculpt inspirations, and made it ''very'' explicit that they were the same characters in the attached [[Transformers Legends (comic)|pack-in/online manga]], and made some other toys out to be new forms for ''Beastformers'' characters as well.

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''General retail'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|LG51 [[Doublecross#Legends|Targetmaster Doublecross]] (w/ [[White Leo#Legends|White Leo]] & [[White Lune#Toys|Haywire]])}}
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|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|LG64 [[Seaspray (G1)#Legends|Seaspray]] & [[Tigerburn#Legends|Lione]]}}
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''[[TakaraTomy Mall]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|LG-EX [[Repugnus (G1)#LGEX|Repug]] & [[Grotusque#Legends|Grotes]] (w/ [[Platinum Tiger#Legends|Platinum Tiger]] and [[Hedgehog#Legends|Hedgehog]])}}
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|width="20%" valign="top"|
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|[[File:Legendstoy-LG51-Doublecross head.jpg|thumb]]
|}
{{note|While the packaging calls the toys "Haywire" and "Lione", the associated manga made those toys out to be new forms for [[White Lune]] and (temporarily at least) [[Tigerburn]], respectively. [[Skullgrotes]] was shown to take over [[Shuffler]]'s body, using the ''Titans Return'' Shuffler head that didn't get released in Japan. [[Scopecougar]] got a similar new body, merging with [[Toraizer]] to create a nonexistent redeco of Lione.}}

==Notes==
* Due to the manufacturing processes of the time, there are a ''lot'' of ''very'' minor variations for many toys in the Hasbro ''Battle Beasts'' line, particularly in the first Series; most of these boil down to "slightly lighter/darker plastic/paint tone" and "slightly glossier/matte paint" and the occasional "company info printing difference". This is on top of the more immediately-obvious larger variants (largely found in Series 2), like changed armor colors. It's uncertain how many of these variants were also present in the ''Beastformers'' run, not helped by many of them appearing in ''Beastformer'' catalogs and other materials.
* The "RPG" era pack-in fliers with the game rules hint at a possible [[Campaign item|promotional campaign]] that never was. In the section about the MVP Weapon use, it mentions something called "Gold Power" ({{ruby|G|ゴールド}}パワー ''Gōrudo Pawā''), which is tied to "lamé weapons" (ラメ武器 ''rame buki''). But all it says about this is "Its power is not yet known to anyone"; no mention of this is ever made in any other ''Beastformers'' material going forward, and the reprinted game rules in the ''[[Hero Special 4: Beastformers]]'' mook omits that bit entirely. It sounds like Takara had plans to offer special "metallic" weapons at some point, and "store-specific promotional campaign" seems a likely outlet. But, in the absence of any other information on these, that's just speculation.
* At the 2009 [[San Diego Comic-Con|Comic-Con]], it was announced that Diamond Select, the producer of Minimates, bought the Battle Beasts [[trademark]]. [http://battlebeasts.blogspot.com/2010/02/battle-beasts-return-look-at-comic-con.html] In 2012, [[IDW Publishing]] [http://battlebeasts.blogspot.com/2012/04/press-release-dump-diamond-select-toys.html released a ''Battle Beasts'' miniseries] based on the Minimates, completely unrelated to ''Transformers''... or the original ''Battle Beasts'', for that matter.
* TakaraTomy's ''[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/beastsaga/ Beast Saga]'' toyline shares many similarities to ''Beastformers'', including being set on Beast and featuring several returning characters, but is not considered a direct continuation of the latter. [http://www.saikyojump.com/topics-beast/index.html A manga] began serialization in ''Saikyo Jump'' in early 2012, and was adapted into [http://www.beastsaga.tv/ an anime] in January 2013, though the story is again unrelated to ''Transformers''.

===Foreign names===
*''French:'' '''Les Dragonautes''', '''Comba Nimaux''' (Canada)
*''Portuguese:'' '''Bestias de Combate'''

==External links==
*[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1Lt0Tgm47d8GTpBwvGx32y6JqzKHVY408TwetdlHVg/edit?usp=sharing Google Doc of transcripts & translations of Beastformers bios & pack-in/packaging materials]
*[http://www.toyarchive.com/BattleBeasts/BattleBeasts1.html Battle Beasts info at Super Toy Archive]
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5O26Dtubh0 Toy commercial on YouTube]

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[[Category:The Headmasters]]
[[Category:Other Hasbro properties]]
[[Category:Other TakaraTomy properties]]

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{{TVWorldcap|The [[Momotarō Dentetsu]] stage.}}

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{{TVWorldcap|[[World Fighters|World Fighter]] [[Yūgo Ōgami]].}}

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{{TVWorldcap|[[World Fighters|World Fighter]] [[Yūgo Ōgami]] in human form.}}

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{{TVWorldcap|[[World Fighters|World Fighter]] [[Binbōgami]].}}

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{{TVWorldcap|[[World Fighters|World Fighter]] [[Momotarō]].}}

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{{TVWorldcap|[[World Fighters|World Fighter]] [[Yūgo Ōgami]].}}

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{{TVWorldcap|[[World Fighters|World Fighter]] [[Yūgo Ōgami]] in human form.}}

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{{TVWorldcap|[[World Fighters|World Fighter]] [[Binbōgami]].}}

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{{TVWorldcap|[[Binbōgami]]'s "Mini-Bonbi" form (edited for content).}}

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{{TVWorldcap|[[Momotarō]]'s Color 1 portrait on the character select screen.}}

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John Pannozzi:

{{disambig3|Spike}}
:''Spike is a dragon from [[My Little Pony]].''
[[File:TheMightiestDinobot-GrimlockHoldsSpike.jpg|upright=1.3|thumb|He has a better track record against combiners than the entire Autobot faction.]]

'''Spike''' is a young [[dragon]] and the royal advisor to Princess [[Twilight Sparkle]], with whom he shares a sibling bond. [[Equestria]]n dragons have a possibly undeserved reputation for being assholes, but Spike is generally a pretty nice kid, if a little lacking in self-confidence.

==Fiction==
===IDW crossover artwork===
[[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] once cosplayed as Spike. {{storylink|Arcee/Greenlight: Run#Covers (5)|Transformers #18 WonderCon 2020 variant cover}}

===''My Little Pony/Transformers''===
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Inspiring}} {{storylink|The Flyin' Fox Trot}} {{storylink|Finale (Friendship in Disguise!)|Finale}} {{storylink|The Magic of Cybertron}} {{storylink|The Mightiest Dinobot}} {{storylink|Finale (The Magic of Cybertron)|Finale}}}}

==Notes==
*The ''Friendship Is Magic'' version of Spike, featured in all the appearances listed above, was voiced by [[Cathy Weseluck]], and by [[Motoko Kumai]] in its Japanese dub. Other incarnations of the character have been voiced by fellow Transformers alumni [[Charlie Adler]], [[Brian Drummond]], [[Tabitha St. Germain]], and [[Martin Roach]].

==External links==
*[[Wikia:mlp:Spike|Spike]] at the My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Wiki

[[Category:My Little Pony characters]]

Neverending Struggle

2024-04-19T06:06:04Z

John Pannozzi:

{{episode
|series=SRLFtoon
|ep=58
|title="Neverending Struggle"
|japanese=おわりなき死闘
|romaji=Owari Naki Shitō
|airdate=[[August 29]], 1986
|continuity=[[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters

}}
==Notes==
*This is a Japanese-exclusive [[clip show]], composed of footage from a collection of unknown episodes.

*You will probably ''never'' see it, as it was not included on [[Pioneer]]'s {{w|LaserDisc}} or DVD sets of the series and may never be made available on home video.

{{epstub}}
[[Category:Clip shows]]
[[Category:Generation 1 episodes]]

Devastator, the Giant Warrior

2024-04-19T06:02:26Z

John Pannozzi:

{{episode
|series=SRLFtoon
|ep=57
|title="Devastator, the Giant Warrior"
|japanese=巨人兵デバスター
|romaji=Kyojin Hei Devastor
|airdate=[[August 15]], 1986
|continuity=[[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
}}

==Notes==
*This is a Japanese-exclusive [[clip show]], using footage from unknown episodes (but which probably include "[[Heavy Metal War]]", "[[The Master Builders (episode)|The Master Builders]]" and/or "[[The Core]]").

*You will probably ''never'' see it, as it was not included on [[Pioneer]]'s {{w|LaserDisc}} or DVD sets of the series and may never be made available on home video.

{{epstub}}
[[Category:Clip shows]]
[[Category:Generation 1 episodes]]

Desperate Battle on Dinobot Island

2024-04-19T05:59:17Z

John Pannozzi:

{{episode
|series=SRLFtoon
|ep=56
|title="Desperate Battle on Dinobot Island"
|japanese=ダイノボット島の死闘
|romaji=Dinobot-tō no Shitō
|airdate=[[August 8]], 1986
|continuity=[[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]}}

==Featured characters==
{{Featuredcharacters

}}
==Notes==
*This is a Japanese-exclusive [[clip show]], combining footage from "[[Dinobot Island, Part 1|Dinobot Island," Parts 1]] and [[Dinobot Island, Part 2|2]] into one episode.

*You will probably ''never'' see it, as it was not included on [[Pioneer]]'s {{w|LaserDisc}} or DVD sets of the series and may never be made available on home video.

{{epstub}}
[[Category:Clip shows]]
[[Category:Generation 1 episodes]]

War Without End (episode)

2024-04-19T05:56:47Z

John Pannozzi:

{{disambig3|War Without End}}
{{episode
|series=SRLFtoon
|ep=55
|title="War Without End"
|Japanese=果てしなき戦い
|romaji=Hateshinaki Tatakai
|airdate=[[August 1]], 1986
|continuity=[[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters

}}
==Other notes==
*This is a Japanese-exclusive [[clip show]], but what episodes it contains clips from are unknown.
*And will probably remain that way, as it was not included on [[Pioneer]]'s {{w|LaserDisc}} or DVD sets of the series and may never be made available on home video.

{{epstub}}
[[Category:Clip shows]]
[[Category:Generation 1 episodes]]

October 11

2024-04-19T05:53:37Z

John Pannozzi:

<noinclude>{{cal-date|10|11}}</noinclude>

* '''19?? —''' Musician [[Psychic Lover|Yoffy]] is born.
* '''[[1946]] —''' Brazilian Voice actor [[Antônio Moreno]] is born.
* '''[[1954]] —''' Spanish voice actor and director [[José María Carrero]] is born.
* '''[[1955]] —''' [[Kyōko Tongū]] (voice of [[Holi]]) is born.
* '''[[1964]] —''' [[Hirohiko Kakegawa]] (Japanese voice of [[Rumble (G1)|Frenzy]] in ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]'') is born.
* '''[[1970]] —''' [[Constance Zimmer]] (voice of [[Strongarm (RID)|Strongarm]] on ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'') is born.
* '''[[1973]] —''' [[Daisuke Sakaguchi]] (Japanese voice of [[Ped (RID)|Ped]] and [[Hishoumaru]]) is born, and wants [[Cinnamon Toast Crunch]].
* '''[[1975]] —''' [[Noah Nelson]] (voice of [[Transformers The Game]] [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]) is born.
* '''[[1980]] —''' [[Tomokazu Sugita]] (Japanese voice of [[Drift (RID)|Drift]] and [[Q-Transformers: Mystery of Convoy Returns (cartoon)|Q-Transformers: Mystery of Convoy Returns]] [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]) is born. Niiiiiiiiiice.
* '''[[1982]] —''' [[Kristy Wu]] ([[Windblade (RID)|Windblade]] on ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'') is born.
* '''[[1985-''' The ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'' [[clip show]] episode "[[Birth of the Transformers!]]" premieres in [[Japan]].
* '''[[1988]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' episode "[[Super Ginrai Gets Blown Away in the Desert!?]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[1989]] —''' Actor [[Hugo Brunswick]] (European French voice of young [[Seymour Simmons]] in the ''[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]'' movie) is born.
* '''[[1992]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[Head On!! Fortress Maximus|Fortress Maximus's Gigantic New Being!]]" airs in Malaysia.
* '''[[2000]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Car Robots]]'' episode "[[Power to Burn!|Invoke! Double Matrix]]" premieres in Japan.
* '''[[2001]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[The Secret of the Ruins]]" premieres in the US (wildly out of order).
* '''[[2002]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' episode "[[Carnival]]" premieres in the [[United States of America|US]].
* '''[[2004]] —''' ''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Transformers]] — Season 1'' is released on DVD in the [[United Kingdom|UK]] by [[Metrodome]], packaged with a Free Collector's Tin.
* '''[[2005]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' episode "[[Sand]]" premieres in the US.
* '''[[2007]] —''' [[Sony]] releases ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers: Beast Machines: Die komplette Season 2]] on DVD in [[Germany]].
* '''[[2008]] —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'' episode "[[Velocity (episode)|Velocity]]" premieres in Latin America.
* '''2008 —''' The ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' episode "[[Home Is Where the Spark Is]]" premieres in [[Italy]].
* '''2008 —''' [[Lorenzo Tarantelli]] (Brazilian voice of [[Kris Díaz]]) is born.
* '''[[2009]] —''' Jimmie Johnson wins the [[NASCAR]] Pepsi 500 at Auto Club Raceway in Pomona, [[California]]. Television coverage is sponsored by ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'', available on DVD on [[October 20]]th!
* '''[[2010]] —''' The [[My Chemical Romance]] promo single "[[The Only Hope for Me is You]]" is released by [[Warner Bros.|Reprise Records]].
* '''2010 —''' Writer [[Evan Somers]] dies at age 52.
* '''[[2011]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Transformers: Prime]]'' wave one toys officially released.
* '''2011 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode "[[Out of His Head]]" premieres in [[South Korea]].
* '''[[2012]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers Prime]]'' episode "[[Operation Bumblebee, Part 1]]" premieres in [[Italy]].
* '''[[2013]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode "[[Scattered]]" premieres in [[Brazil]].
* '''2013 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode "[[Minus One]]" premieres in [[Germany]].
* '''[[2015]] —''' The ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' episode "[[One of Our Mini-Cons Is Missing]]" premieres in [[Japan]].
* '''[[2017]] —''' ''[[First Strike]]'' [[First Strike issue 5|#5]], ''[[G.I. Joe vol. 5|G.I. Joe]]'' [[G.I. Joe vol. 5 issue 9|#9]], and ''[[Optimus Prime (comic)|Optimus Prime]]'' [[Primeless, Part 1|#11]] are released by [[IDW Publishing]].
* '''2017''' — The two-part series finale of ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'', "[[Upgrades]]" and "[[Transformations]]", premieres in [[Italy]].
* '''[[2019]] —''' [[Robert Forster]] (voice of [[Bryce]]) passes away at age 78 from brain cancer.
* '''2019 —''' The ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'' episode "[[Parley]]" premieres on the [[Cartoon Network]] app.
* '''[[2022]] —''' ''[[The Art and Making of Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' artbook is released by [[Viz Media]].
* '''2022 —''' The ''[[Transformers Roleplaying Game Core Rulebook]]'' hardcover is released by [[Renegade Game Studios]].

Birth of the Transformers!

2024-04-19T05:51:17Z

John Pannozzi:

{{episode
|series=SRLFtoon
|ep=14
|title="Birth of the Transformers!"
|japanese=トランスフォーマー誕生!
|romaji=Transformer Tanjō!
||airdate= [[October 11]], 1985
|continuity=[[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters

}}
==Notes==
*This episode is a Japanese-exclusive [[clip show]], presumably combining "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1|More Than Meets the Eye," Parts 1]], [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2|2]] and [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3|3]] into one episode.
*You will probably ''never'' see it, as it was not included on [[Pioneer]]'s {{w|LaserDisc}} or DVD sets of the series and may never be made available on home video.

{{epstub}}
[[Category:Clip shows]]
[[Category:Generation 1 episodes]]

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2024-04-13T02:32:04Z

John Pannozzi:

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2024-04-13T02:30:07Z

John Pannozzi:

User:John Pannozzi

2024-04-13T00:02:52Z

John Pannozzi:

Like [[Hasbro]], I'm from [[Rhode Island]].

MediaWiki talk:Community Portal

2024-04-13T00:01:48Z

John Pannozzi: /* Will we get an article on The Masked Singer? */ new section

King

2023-10-12T03:56:39Z

John Pannozzi:

{{factions|{{factions/icons|custom=Burger-king.jpg|cSize=30px|cLink=Burger King}}}}
{{disambig3.5|the Cybertronian that burns inside with flame-broiling deliciousness|the Cybertronian that burns inside with universe-destroying evil|The Fallen|King}}
:''The King is an unaffiliated [[Transformer]] from the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:RotF Transform Your Way Promo King.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Arrrr, that'll replace the [[Orcanoch|whale]] in me nightmares.]]

After crashing to [[Earth]] in [[1954]], the '''King''' scanned a broiler for his [[alternate mode]] and became [[Burger King]]'s Flame-Broiling Culinary Engineer. Despite having a "Conversation" [[Tech Spec]] rank of 0, he somehow revealed his burgering secrets to the Burger King scientists, and stayed hidden on Earth for decades, waiting for the arrival of his fellow Transformers from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. It is possible that the King is the mastermind behind the [[BBQ Double Stackticon]]!

The King is frightening as all hell.

{{quote|The Transformers? They've been here a long, ''long'' time.|[[Seymour Simmons]]|[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}

==Commercial appearances==
When a lucky customer who had just left a Burger King proclaimed that he had a winning Transform Your Way scratch-off ticket, King dutifully transformed into robot mode and burst through the restaurant's wall to deliver the prize: a pallet bearing one million dollars in cash. The bespectacled winner was quite pleased with this development. The restaurant's manager was not. He emerged from the massive hole King had just made to declare that a million dollars was about how much it would take to fix this mess, to which King simply shrugged in response. The manager further informed King that this time outside of his normal duties counted as his break. King seemed quite dejected to hear this.

In a similar incident, another customer had also won a million dollars, but his associate remained unconvinced until King once again transformed and burst through the restaurant's wall and conveniently found an armored car in mid-travel, halting it and ejecting its rear doors with a single strike from his mighty fist. After noting that the bills that ejected from the rear door were not a million dollars, King proceeded to tip the rest of the car's contents onto the ground. The customer's associate remarked amazingly that the customer had even won a security guard that had spilled out along with an undetermined amount of cash. {{storylink|Commercial/Revenge of the Fallen#Burger King|Transform Your Way television commercials}}

==Tech Specs==
[[Image:RotF Burger King Broiler-bot by Josh Nizzi.jpg|thumb|right|Put it in me, Scott.]]

*'''Strength''': 8
*'''Speed''': 6
*'''Regalness''': 10
*'''Conversation''': 0
*'''Creepiness''': 7.5
*'''Heat''': 10
*'''Stealth''': 2
*'''Balance''': 1

==Notes==
* Burger King itself was also established in 1954, so it is likely that it was the culinary technology the King shared that allowed the fast food chain to get off the ground.
* King was designed by [[Josh Nizzi]], just like the robots in the film itself.

[[Category:Engineers]]
[[Category:Promotion-only Transformers]]
[[Category:Kings]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Transformers]]
[[Category:Food mascots]]

Robik

2023-10-12T03:44:22Z

John Pannozzi:

[[File:NinjaGladiators-Robik.jpg|thumb|200px|]]

The pious '''Robik''' is a kind-hearted robot who can't stand to see bad things happen. He can defend himself with his chrono-rapture shield.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
Robik could be selected as a playable character in the video game ''[[Ninja Gladiator]]''. In the game's story, Robik stood up to the occasion when [[Metro City]] was overrun with [[Inhumanoid]]s. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

==Notes==
*Robik is based on Gizmo, a robotic character in the Christian cartoon, ''{{w|Superbook (1981 TV series)|Superbook}}''. For ''The AllSpark Almanac II'', Robik was recolored (mostly—a "screenshot" on the fictional game's packaging uses the original red color) and renamed, using the character's Ukrainian name.
*[[Cathy Weseluck]] voiced Gizmo in the 2011 ''Superbook'' reboot.

[[Category:Animated characters]]
[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:Robots]]

My Mother the Car

2023-10-12T03:43:42Z

John Pannozzi:

'''''My Mother the Car''''' is a [[television]] show from [[Earth]].

==Fiction==
===Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics===
In his attempts to contact the electromagnetic essences of long-dead [[Decepticon]]s, [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] constructed numerous receivers, antennas, and other equipment but only managed to pick up a few stray broadcast signals bouncing around outer space from some Earth television programs of the 1950s and 60s, of which ''My Mother the Car'' was his favorite. {{storylink|The Transformers Universe (Marvel)|Mindwipe's ''Universe'' profile}}

==External links==
*''{{w|My Mother the Car}}'' at Wikipedia

[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:Marvel Generation 1]]
[[Category:Television programs]]

Felina

2023-10-12T03:40:20Z

John Pannozzi:

[[File:NGFeistyFelina.jpg|thumb|200px|]]

'''Felina''' is a feisty cat lady.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
Felina could be selected as a playable character in the video game ''[[Ninja Gladiator]]''. She had weak attacks, but could use the multi-hit "SWAT Claw Strike". {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

==Notes==
*Lt. Felina Feral is a character from the 1990s cartoon, ''{{w|SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron}}''.

[[Category:Animals]]
[[Category:Animated characters]]
[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]

Category:Crossover toylines

2023-10-12T03:37:52Z

John Pannozzi:

Toylines that combine ''Transformers'' with other franchises or brands.

[[Category:Crossovers]]
[[Category:Toylines]]
[[Category:Multi-property brands]]

Frankenstein's monster

2023-10-12T03:34:24Z

John Pannozzi:

{{factions|decepticon}}
[[File:Collaborative-Frankentron-package-art.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|PUTTIN' ON THE RITZ!!!]]
'''Frankenstein's monster''' is a monster brought to life by [[Frankenstein|Doctor Frankenstein]]. In some realities where he is a robot constructed from desecrated Cybertronian corpses, this frightening mishmash of spare parts instead goes by the name '''Frankentron'''.
{{TOCclear}}
==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
[[File:Autobot spike - frankenstein's monster.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb|Fire BAD!]]
{{voiceactor|[[Peter Cullen]] (English)}}
While [[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike]] recovered from a serious operation, one that left his mind in the body of [[Autobot X (G1)|Autobot X]], he watched a movie on [[Teletraan I]]. The movie featured an inanimate being made of mis-matching parts and an evil brain. [[Frankenstein's assistant|A hunched creature]] begged the creator of the behemoth, Dr. Frankenstein, not to reanimate the grotesque parody of life. The Doctor, however, thought that the creature would be grateful for the giant and powerful body given to him and vivified the monster. As it started to growl, the voice of the hunchback shrieked at Frankenstein that he had created a monster. {{storylink|Autobot Spike}}

The monster was one of the creatures conjured up by [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]]'s dreams, and used by the [[Quintesson]]s to menace [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]], [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], and the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. {{storylink|Nightmare Planet}}
{{-}}
==Toys==
===''Collaborative''===
[[File:CollaborativeFrankentron.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.66|"It's okay if you just call me Frankentron instead of Frankentron's Monster. I really don't mind."]]

<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Frankentron''' ([[2023]])}}</ul>
:* ''Accessories'': Tesla coil, [[Blast effect|lightning effect]]

: ''[[Collaborative]]'' Frankentron is a retool of ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' [[Impactor (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Impactor]], transforming into a Cybertronian tank. In place of Impactor's gun, he comes with a large [[Nikola Tesla|Tesla coil]], which can be plugged into his vehicle mode turret to create a fantasy lightning gun. As this is a crossover with [[Universal Studios]], the toy is specifically meant to call back to the {{w|Frankenstein (1931 film)|1931 ''Frankenstein'' film}}. Among its remolded parts, Frankentron's new hands are in a default horizontal position, and the [[package art]] makes clear this is meant to represent the movie monster's arms-out staggering posture.

: Frankentron was [[exclusive]] to [[Amazon (website)|Amazon.com]], with small quantities available on [[Hasbro Pulse]].
{{comingsoontoy}}
{{--}}

==External links==
*{{w|Frankenstein's monster}} at Wikipedia

[[Category:Collaborative Decepticons]]
[[Category:Earth culture]]
[[Category:Generation 1 cartoon humans]]
[[Category:Monsters]]
[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:External properties]]

Old Soldier

2023-10-12T03:32:35Z

John Pannozzi:

[[File:NGOldSoldier.jpg|thumb|200px|]]

The '''Old Soldier''' is a pretty tough coot. He can use his stone skin to attack others.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
The Old Soldier could be selected as a playable character in the video game ''[[Ninja Gladiator]]''. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

==Notes==
*The Old Soldier is based on Hudson, a character in the Disney cartoon, ''{{w|Gargoyles (TV series)|Gargoyles}}''. For ''The AllSpark Almanac II'', the Old Soldier was recolored and given a generic description to avoid legal trouble.

[[Category:Animated characters]]
[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:Disney properties]]

Truancy-bot

2023-10-12T03:31:22Z

John Pannozzi:

{{factions|ozsa}}

[[File:Withered Hope Truancy-bot.jpg|thumb|]]

'''Truancy-bot''' is a member of the [[Axiom Nexus]] [[Axiom Nexus Security Administration|Security Administration]]

==Fiction==
===''TransTech''===
Truancy-bot was part of the group investigating the discovery of [[Comet]]'s body. He may have been part of the security unit that confronted [[Demolishor (TransTech)|General Demolishor]] in the [[Heap]]. {{storylink|Withered Hope}}

==Notes==
*Truancy-bot is a character from ''{{w|The Perry Bible Fellowship}}''.
*Truancy-bot is unnamed in "[[Withered Hope]]", only appearing in a piece of art.

==External links==
*[https://pbfcomics.com/comics/truancy-bot/ "Truancy bot" strip]

[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:TransTech characters]]

House (entity)

2023-10-12T03:30:27Z

John Pannozzi:

{{disambig3|House}}
{{faceless}}

'''House''' is a malevolent entity that dwells in the [[Unspace|the void between universes]], one of many eldritch creatures that might threaten an unwary dimensional traveller.

==Fiction==
===''TransTech''===
[[Rhinox (TransTech)|Rhinox]] identified House as one of the many beings responsible for consuming the remnants of destroyed universes and maintaining the overall health of the [[multiverse]]. {{storylink|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News Reporter|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News, 2015/08/16}}

[[Vector Prime]] had encountered House in the past, but refused to give any details about the experience. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/09/06}}

==Notes==
*House originates from the ''[[Doctor Who]]'' episode, "{{w|The Doctor's Wife}}".

==External links==
*[[wikia:tardis:House (The Doctor's Wife)|House]] at the TARDIS

[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]
[[Category:Real-world cultural references]]
[[Category:TransTech characters]]

Brett

2023-10-12T03:28:07Z

John Pannozzi:

[[File:NGBrett.jpg|thumb|200px|]]

'''Brett''' is a [[human]] with wheels attached to his limbs for some reason. His "Molecular Beam" headlights can be used to attack opponents.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
Brett could be selected as a playable character in the video game ''[[Ninja Gladiator]]''. He was regarded as the fastest character in the game. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

==Notes==
*Brett Matthews is the protagonist of the 1984 cartoon, ''{{w|Turbo Teen}}'', well-known for a contextless clip showing Brett's transformation into a sportscar.

[[Category:Animated humans]]
[[Category:Warner Bros. properties]]

2022

2022-12-15T01:46:25Z

John Pannozzi: /* Deaths */

{{yearofthe|2022}}
The year '''2022''' (MMXXII) is the 39th year since the [[Transformers brand]] began.

{{see|Transformers timeline}}

==Events==
===Fiction===
*TBD

===Non-fiction===
*[[June 13]] — [[Pluto TV]] launches the free, 24/7 ad-based [[Transformers TV]] channel.

====Conventions====
{{note|Several of the long-time conventions were battered by the COVID-19 virus and forced to reschedule or cancel in the past 2 years. This has led to a decreased 2022 schedule.}}
*[[BotCon]] 2022: August 25–28
*Dairycon 2022: April 8–9
*RetCon 2022: April 30
*TFcon Toronto 2022: July 8–10
*TFCon Los Angeles 2022: March 11–13
*TFCon Chicago 2022: October 21–23
*TFExpo 2022: July 22–23
*TFNation 2022: August 12–14

====Deaths====
*[[January 6]] -[[Tony Tallarico Sr.]]
*[[January 15]] — [[Michel Ruhl]]
*[[January 31]] — [[Ekkehardt Belle]]
*[[February 1]] - [[Isaac Bardavid]]
*[[February 3]] — [[Pedro D'Aguillon Jr.]]
*[[February 14]] — [[Tony Fuochi]]
*[[February 28]] — [[Kirk Baily]]
*[[March 30]] — [[Stephen Keener]]
*[[June 2]] — [[José Luccioni]]
*[[June 23]] — [[Chūmei Watanabe]]
*[[July 2]] — [[Mike Reynolds]]
*[[July 23]] — [[Jered Barclay]]
*[[July 24]] — [[Franco Zucca]]
*[[October 10]] — [[Ayhan Kahya]]
*[[November 1]] — [[Antônio Moreno]]
*[[November 3]] — [[Danny Bulanadi]]
*[[November 4]] — [[Jan Spitzer]]
*[[November 14]] — [[Kiyoyuki Yanada]]
*[[November 19]] — [[Jason David Frank]]
*[[November 25]] — [[Martine Reigner]]
*[[December 6]] — [[Ichirō Mizuki]]
{{--}}

==Print==
===Comics===
====IDW====
* ''[[Transformers: Best of Optimus Prime]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Wreckers—Tread & Circuits]]'' #4 (of 4 issues)
* ''[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]'' #39–43 (ongoing)
* ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars]]'' #12–17 (ongoing) + [[Beast Wars Annual|Annual]]
* ''[[Transformers: King Grimlock]]'' #5 (of 5 issues)
* ''[[Transformers: War's End]]'' #1–4 (of 4 issues)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of Megatron]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of Hot Rod]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Last Bot Standing]]'' #1–4 (of 4 issues)
* ''[[Transformers: Fate of Cybertron]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of the Beasts]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of the Rarities]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass II]]'' #1–5 (of 5 issues)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of Bumblebee]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of Starscream]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of Arcee]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of Grimlock]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of Shockwave]]'' (one-shot)
* ''[[Transformers: Best of Windblade]]'' (one-shot)

===Books===
* TBD

==Collections==
===Comics===
====IDW====
* ''[[My Little Pony/Transformers: The Magic of Cybertron]]''
* ''[[Transformers (2019 comic)#Collections|Transformers, Vol. 4: Declaration of War]]'' Hardcover
* [[Transformers: Beast Wars|''Beast Wars'': Volume 1]] TPB
* ''[[The Transformers: The IDW Collection Phase Three: Volume 2]]'' Hardcover
* ''[[Transformers (2019 comic)#Collections|Transformers, Vol. 5: Horrors Near and Far]]'' Hardcover
* [[Transformers: Beast Wars|''Beast Wars'': Volume 2]] TPB
* ''[[Transformers: King Grimlock]]'' Hardcover
* ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (IDW)|Transformers: Shattered Glass]]'' TPB
* ''[[The Transformers: The IDW Collection Phase Three: Volume 3]]'' Hardcover
* ''[[Transformers (2019 comic)#Collections|Transformers, Vol. 6: War's End]]'' Hardcover

====[[Villagebooks]]====
*TBD

==Media==

===Television===
*''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)|Transformers: BotBots]]''
*''[[Transformers: EarthSpark (cartoon)|Transformers: EarthSpark]]'' episodes 1–10

===Video games===
* ''[[Transformers Beyond Reality]]''

==Toys==
===Hasbro===
====''[[Transformers: BotBots (toyline)|BotBots]]''====
*TBA
{{-}}

====''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]''====

=====''[[Transformers Collaborative|Collaborative]]''=====
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Maverick (Collaborative)#2022|Maverick]] (re-release)}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#Collaborative|Megatron H.I.S.S. Tank]] and [[Baroness#Collaborative|Baroness]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Tonkanator]] [[giftset|gift set]]}}
{{Bp-a1d1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Street Fighter II × Transformers|Optimus Prime]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Ryu]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> vs [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Street Fighter II × Transformers|Megatron]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[M. Bison]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Street Fighter II × Transformers|Hot Rod]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Ken Masters|Ken]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> vs [[Arcee (G1)/toys#Street Fighter II × Transformers|Arcee]] <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Chun-Li]]<nowiki>]</nowiki>}}</ul>

{{-}}

=====''[[Transformers R.E.D.|R.E.D. [Robot Enhanced Design]]]''=====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 5'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Knock Out (Prime)#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Knock Out]] (''Transformers: Prime'')}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Ultra Magnus]] (''Transformers'')}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 6'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Galvatron (G1)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Galvatron]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Shockwave (G1)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Shockwave]] (''Transformers'')}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 7'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (WFC)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Megatron]] (''Transformers: Prime'')}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (WFC)/merchandise#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Optimus Prime]] (''Transformers: Prime'')}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#R.E.D._.5BRobot_Enhanced_Design.5D|Thundercracker]] (''Transformers'')}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|}{{-}}

=====''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom]]''=====
====== Store exclusives ======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Golden Disk Collection'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-m1|Chapter 3: Enter the Mutant Warrior}}
:{{Bp-m1|[[Tigatron#GDC|Mutant Tigatron]]}}
{{Bp-p1|Chapter 4: The Terrorfying {{sic}} Conclusion}}
:{{Bp-p1|[[Terrorsaur (BW)#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Terrorsaur]]}}
</ul>
|}

=====''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]''=====
======Exclusives======
*TBD
{{-}}

=====''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)#Shattered Glass Collection|Shattered Glass Collection]]''=====
<ul class="icon-list">
{{Bp-sa|[[Jetfire (SG)#Generations|Jetfire]]}}
{{Bp-sa|[[Ultra Magnus (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Ultra Magnus]]}}
{{Bp-sa|[[Blaster (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Autobot Blaster]] – [[Rewind (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Autobot Rewind]]}}
{{Bp-sd|[[Wheeljack (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Decepticon Slicer]] & [[Exo-Suit (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Exo-Suit]]}}
{{Bp-sd|[[Flamewar (SG)|Decepticon Flamewar]] & [[Fireglide]]}}
{{Bp-sd|[[Soundwave (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Soundwave]] (with [[Ravage (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Ravage]] and [[Laserbeak (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Laserbeak]])}}
</ul>
{{comingsoontoy|Soundwave}}

{{-}}

=====''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]''=====
======Core Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#Legacy|Autobot Hot Rod]] ([[package refresh]] of ''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Kingdom]]'' figure)}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Iguanus (G1)#Legacy|Iguanus]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Legacy|Skywarp]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 2'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#Legacy|G2 Universe Megatron]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#LegacyCore|Optimus Prime]] (package refresh of ''Kingdom'' figure)}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Legacy|Shockwave]]}}
</ul>
|
|}
{{-}}

======Deluxe Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Arcee (WFC)#Legacy|Prime Universe Arcee]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Drag Strip (G1)#Legacy|Decepticon Dragstrip]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Kickback (G1)#Legacy|Kickback]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Skids (G1)#Legacy|Autobot Skids]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 2'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Elita One (G1)#Legacy|Elita-1]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Knock Out (Prime)#Legacy|Prime Universe Knock-Out]]}}
{{Bp-p1|[[Tarantulas (BW)/toys#Legacy|Predacon Tarantulas]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Wildrider (G1)#Legacy|Decepticon Wild Rider]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 3'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Pointblank#Legacy|Autobot Pointblank]] (w/ [[Peacemaker#Legacy|Autobot Peacemaker]])}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Crankcase (G1)#Legacy|Crankcase]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Dead End (G1)#Legacy|Dead End]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Skullgrin#Legacy|Skullgrin]]}}
</ul>
|
|}

{{-}}

======Voyager Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Blaster (G1)/toys#Legacy|Autobot Blaster]] & [[Eject (G1)#Legacy|Eject]] (package refresh of ''Kingdom'' Autobot Blaster & Eject)}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Bulkhead (Prime)#Legacy|Prime Universe Bulkhead]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 2'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d2|[[Jhiaxus (G2)#Legacy|G2 Universe Jhiaxus]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Legacy|Soundwave]] (minimally redecoed re-release of ''Siege'' Soundwave)}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 3'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-p1|[[Inferno (BW)#Legacy|Predacon Inferno]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Starscream (Armada)/toys#Legacy|Armada Universe Starscream]]}}
</ul>
|
|}

======Leader Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Galvatron (G1)/toys#Legacy|Galvatron]] (minimally redecoed re-release of ''Kingdom'' Galvatron)}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Legacy|Laser Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 2'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Blitzwing (G1)/toys#Legacy|Blitzwing]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 3'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-p2|[[Megatron (BW)/toys#Legacy|Transmetal II Megatron]]}}
</ul>
|
|}

{{-}}

======Commander Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Motormaster (G1)#Legacy|Decepticon Motormaster]]}}
</ul>
|
|}
{{-}}
======Titan Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Metroplex (Cybertron)#Legacy|Cybertron Universe Metroplex]]}}
</ul>
|
|}
{{-}}

======Exclusives======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''Buzzworthy Bumblebee''' (Target)'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-m1|[[Dinobot (BW)/toys#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Heroic Maximal Dinobot]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Bluestreak (G1)/toys#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Autobot Silverstreak]]}}
{{Bp-p1|[[Terrorsaur (BW)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Evil Predacon Terrorsaur]]}}
*Creatures Collide ([[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#CreaturesCollide|Autobot Goldbug]], [[Ransack (G1)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Ransack]], [[Skywasp#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Skywasp]], [[Scorponok (BW)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Predacon Scorponok]])
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Other Target exclusives'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Security Officer (G1)#Legacy|Red Cog]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Hasbro Pulse'''
<ul class="iconlist">
*A Hero is Born ([[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Legacy|Orion Pax]] and [[Alpha Trion (G1)#Legacy| Alpha Trion]])
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''HasLab'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{bp-a1|Victory Saber ([[Star Saber (G1)/toys#HasLab|Autobot Star Saber]], [[Victory Leo#HasLab|Victory Leo]], [[Holi#HasLab|Holi]], [[Fire#HasLab|Fire]])}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top" rowspan=2|
|-
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''Velocitron Speedia 500 Collection'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Blurr (G1)/toys#Legacy|Blurr]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Burn Out (Diaclone)#Legacy|Diaclone Universe Burn Out]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Clampdown (G1)#Legacy|Diaclone Universe Clampdown]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Cosmos (G1)#Legacy|Autobot Cosmos]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Override (Cybertron)#Legacy|Cybertron Universe Override]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"| 
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Hauler#Legacy|Road Hauler]]}}
{{Bp-a2|[[Road Rocket (G2)#Legacy|G2 Universe Road Rocket]]}}
{{Bp-cm|[[Scourge (RID)#Legacy|Robots in Disguise 2000 Universe Scourge]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Other Walmart exclusives'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{bp-p1|[[Buzz Saw (BW)#Legacy|Buzzsaw]]}}
{{bp-a1|[[Nightprowler#Legacy|Autobot Nightprowler]]}}
{{bp-p1|[[Sandstorm (BW)#Legacy|Predacon Sandstorm]]}}
</ul>
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''''Wreck N' Rule Collection'''''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-wr|[[Bulkhead (Prime)#WreckNRule|Prime Universe Bulkhead]]}}
{{Bp-wr|[[Impactor (G1)#Legacy|Comic Universe Impactor]] and [[Spindle]]}}
{{Bp-wr|[[Leadfoot (G2)#Legacy|G2 Universe Leadfoot]] and [[Masterdominus]]}}
{{Bp-wr|[[Springer (G1)/toys#Legacy|Autobot Springer]]}}
{{Bp-wr|[[Twin Twist (G1)#Legacy|Diaclone Universe Twin Twist]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{comingsoontoy|Victory Saber}}

{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Shared exclusives'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Scorponok (G1)/toys#Generations Selects|Black Zarak]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Cyclonus (G1)/toys#Generations Selects|Cyclonus]] & [[Nightstick (G1)#Generations Selects|Nightstick]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[DK-2 Guard]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Breaker (G1)|DK-3 Breaker]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Lift-Ticket (Diaclone)#Generations Selects|Lift-Ticket]]}}
</ul>
|
|}

{{-}}

=====''[[Studio Series]]''=====
======Deluxe Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 15'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|80 [[Brawn (ROTF)#Studio Series|Brawn]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-a1|81 [[Wheeljack (Movie)#Studio Series|Wheeljack]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-a1|82 [[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#SS82|Autobot Ratchet]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-a1|86-11 [[Perceptor (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Perceptor]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 16'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|84 [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#SS84|Ironhide]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-a1|85 [[Arcee (Movie)#SS85|Arcee]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 17'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|86-16 [[Arcee (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Arcee]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
{{Bp-a1|87 [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#SS87|Bumblebee]] (''Dark of the Moon'')}}
{{Bp-d1|88 [[Sideways (ROTF)#Studio Series|Sideways]] (''Revenge of the Fallen'')}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|
|}

{{-}}

======Voyager Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 15'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|83 [[Soundwave (ROTF)/toys#SS83|Soundwave]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 16'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|86-14 [[Junkyard (G1)#Studio Series|Junkheap]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 17'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|89 [[Thundercracker (Movie)#SS89|Thundercracker]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-d1|90 [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#SS90|Galvatron]] (''Transformers: Age of Extinction'')}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 18'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|86-17 [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Ironhide]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
</ul>
|}
{{-}}

======Leader Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 8'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|86-12 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Coronation Starscream]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 9'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|86-15 [[Sludge (G1)#Studio Series|Dinobot Sludge]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 10'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|91 [[The Fallen/toys#Studio Series|The Fallen]] (''Revenge of the Fallen'')}}
</ul>
|}
{{-}}

======Core Class======
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 1'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Shockwave (Movie)#SSBB|Shockwave]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Ravage (ROTF)#SSBB|Ravage]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 2'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Spike Witwicky (G1)#Studio Series|Exo-Suit Spike Witwicky]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
|
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 3'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Autobot Ratchet]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Laserbeak (DOTM)#SSCore|Laserbeak]] (''Dark of the Moon'')}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Wheelie (G1)#SSCore|Autobot Wheelie]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
|
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 4'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Laserbeak (DOTM)#SSCore|Laserbeak]] (''Dark of the Moon'')}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Rumble (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Decepticon Rumble (Blue)]] (''The Transformers: The Movie'')}}
|}
{{comingsoontoy|Laserbeak}}

{{-}}

======Multi-Packs and Exclusives======
*TBD
{{-}}

====''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]''====
*Shared releases with Takara.
{{see|#Masterpiece 2}}
{{-}}

====''[[Vintage (Walmart toyline)|Vintage Beast Wars]]''====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-m1|[[Tigatron#Vintage Beast Wars|Tigatron]]}}
{{Bp-m1|Maximal [[Cybershark#Vintage Beast Wars|Cybershark]]}}
{{Bp-m1|Maximal [[Wolfang (Maximal)#Vintage Beast Wars|Wolfang]]}}
{{Bp-p1|[[Terrorsaur (BW)#Vintage Beast Wars|Terrorsaur]]}}
{{Bp-p1|[[Retrax#Vintage Beast Wars|Predacon Retrax]]}}
{{Bp-p1|[[Scorponok (BW)#Vintage Beast Wars|Scorponok]]}}
</ul>
|
|}
{{-}}

===TakaraTomy===


====''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]''====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|MP-55 [[Nightbird (G1)#Masterpiece|Nightbird Shadow]] ([[February 28]])}}
{{Bp-a1|MP-53+ [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Masterpiece|Senator Crosscut]] ([[March 26]])}}
{{Bp-a1|MPG-01 [[Shouki#Masterpiece G Series|Trainbot Shouki]] ([[June 25]])}}
{{Bp-a1|MPG-02 [[Getsuei#Masterpiece G Series|Trainbot Getsuei]] ([[September 24]])}}
{{Bp-a1|MP-56 [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Trailbreaker]] (December)}}
{{Bp-d1|MPM-13 [[Blackout (Movie)#MPM13|Decepticon Blackout]] & [[Scorponok (Movie)#MPM13|Scorponok]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{Comingsoontoy|Beyond MPG-02}}
{{-}}

====''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom#Kingdom (TakaraTomy)|Transformers Kingdom]]''====
=====General Retail=====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 10''' ([[January 29]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-p1|KD-17 [[Scorponok (BW)#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Scorponok]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 11''' ([[February 26]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|KD-18 [[Red Alert (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Red Alert]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 12''' ([[March 26]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-m1|KD-14 [[Tigatron#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Tigatron]]}}
{{Bp-a1|KD-19 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#K11|Optimus Prime with Trailer]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 13''' ([[June 25]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-p1|KD-20 [[Waspinator (BW)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Waspinator]]}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 14''' ([[July 30]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|KD-21 [[Blaster (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Autobot Blaster]] & [[Eject (G1)#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Eject]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{-}}

=====Exclusives=====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="30%" valign="top"|'''[[TakaraTomy Mall]]'''
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1m1|KD EX-10 [[Skywarp (BW)#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Maximal Skywarp]] & [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Sideswipe]]}}
{{Bp-d1|KD EX-11 [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Soundwave]]}}
{{Bp-m1|KD EX-12 [[T-Wrecks#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Maximal T-Wrecks]]}}
{{Bp-a1m1|KD EX-13 [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Maximal Grimlock]] & [[Mirage (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Mirage]]}}
{{Bp-a1|KD EX-14 [[Slammer#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Autobot Slammer]]}}
{{Bp-a1|KD EX-15 [[Pipes (G1)#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Autobot Pipes]]}}
{{Bp-m1|KD EX-16 [[Shadow Panther#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Shadow Panther]]}}
{{Bp-a1|KD EX-17 [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys#K43|Hot Rod]]}}
</ul>
|}
{{-}}

====''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)#Japanese release|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]''====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 11''' ([[January 29]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|WFC-20 [[Sparkless#SparklessSeeker|Sparkless Seeker]] (w/ [[Caliburst (G1)#War for Cybertron Trilogy|Sparkless Caliburst]] and [[Singe#War for Cybertron Trilogy|Sparkless Singe]])}}
</ul>
|
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 12''' ([[February 26]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-qu2|WFC-21 [[Deseeus Army Drone#War for Cybertron Trilogy|Deseeus Army Drone]]}}
</ul>
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====''[[Generations Selects (toyline)#TakaraTomy|Selects]]''====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|[[March 26]]
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Scorponok (G1)/toys#Generations Selects|Black Zarak]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Artfire#Generations Selects|Artfire]] & [[Nightstick (Headmasters)#Generations Selects|Nightstick]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Galvatron (G1)/toys#Generations Selects|Galvatron]]}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|[[June 25]]
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|[[Lift-Ticket (Diaclone)#Generations Selects|Lift Ticket]]}}
</ul>
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====''[[Transformers Premium Finish|Premium Finish]]''====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 4''' ([[January 29]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|PFSS-04 [[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#Premium Finish|Ratchet]]}}
{{Bp-d1|PF WFC-04 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Premium Finish|Starscream]]}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 5''' ([[July 30]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|PFSS-05 [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#PFSS05|Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
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====''[[Studio Series#Studio Series (TakaraTomy)|Studio Series]]''====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 26''' ([[February 26|Feb 26]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|SS-73 [[Thrust (Movie)#Studio Series|Thrust]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-74 [[Jolt (ROTF)#Studio Series|Jolt]] (''Revenge of the Fallen'')}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 27''' ([[April 30|Apr 30]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|SS-75 [[Perceptor (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Perceptor]] (''The Transformers: The (1986) Movie'')}}
{{Bp-d1|SS-76 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Studio Series|New Destruction Emperor Starscream]] (''1986 Movie'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-77 [[Sideswipe (Movie)/toys#SS78|Sideswipe]] (''Revenge of the Fallen'')}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 28''' ([[May 28]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|SS-78 [[Ravage (ROTF)#SSBB|Ravage]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-d1|SS-79 [[Shockwave (Movie)#SSBB|Shockwave]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-80 [[Ratchet (Movie)/toys#SS82|Autobot Ratchet]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-d1|SS-81 [[Soundwave (ROTF)/toys#SS83|Soundwave]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 29''' ([[June 25|Jun 25]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|SS-82 [[Sweep (G1)#Studio Series|Decepticon Sweep]] (''1986 Movie'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-83 [[Brawn (ROTF)#Studio Series|Brawn]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-84 [[Wheeljack (Movie)#Studio Series|Wheeljack]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 30''' ([[August 27|Aug 27]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|SS-85 [[Spike Witwicky (G1)#Studio Series|Exo-Suit Spike Witwicky]] (''1986 Movie'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-86 [[Arcee (Movie)#SS85|Arcee]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-87 [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#SS84|Ironhide]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-88 [[Junkyard (G1)#Studio Series|Junkheap]] (''1986 Movie'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-89 [[Sludge (G1)#Studio Series|Dinobot Sludge]] (''1986 Movie'')}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 31''' (October, ??)
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|SS-90 [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#SS87|Bumblebee]] (''Dark of the Moon'')}}
{{Bp-d1|SS-91 [[Sideways (ROTF)#Studio Series|Sideways]] (''Revenge of the Fallen'')}}
{{Bp-a1|SS-92 [[Arcee (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Arcee]] (''1986 Movie'')}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 32''' (November, ??)
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|SS-93 [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#SS90|Galvatron]] (''Age of Extinction'')}}
{{Bp-d1|SS-94 [[Thundercracker (Movie)#SS89|Thundercracker]] (''Bumblebee'')}}
</ul>
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{{comingsoontoy|Everything beyond wave 30}}{{-}}

====''[[Transformers: Legacy#Legacy (TakaraTomy)|Legacy]]''====
{| style="margin-left:1em;" width="100%"
|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 1''' ([[July 30]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|TL-01 [[Skids (G1)#Legacy|Skids]]}}
{{Bp-d1|TL-02 [[Drag Strip (G1)#Legacy|Dragstrip]]}}
{{Bp-a1|TL-03 [[Bulkhead (Prime)#Legacy|Autobot Bulkhead]]}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 2''' ([[August 27]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|TL-04 [[Kickback (G1)#Legacy|Kickback]]}}
{{Bp-a1|TL-05 [[Arcee (WFC)#Legacy|Arcee]]}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 3''' ([[September 24]])
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|TL-06 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Legacy|Laser Optimus Prime]]}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 4''' ([[October]] ??)
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|TL-07 [[Wildrider (G1)#Legacy|Wild Rider]]}}
{{Bp-d1|TL-08 [[Knock Out (Prime)#Legacy|Knock Out]]}}
{{Bp-d2|TL-09 [[Jhiaxus (G2)#Legacy|Jhiaxus]]}}
{{Bp-d1|TL-10 [[Blitzwing (G1)/toys#Legacy|Blitzwing]]}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 5''' ([[November]] ??)
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-p1|TL-11 [[Tarantulas (BW)/toys#Legacy|Tarantulas]]}}
{{Bp-a1|TL-12 [[Elita One (G1)#Legacy|Elita-1]]}}
{{Bp-d1|TL-13 [[Motormaster (G1)#Legacy|Motormaster]]}}
</ul>
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|width="20%" valign="top"|'''Wave 6''' ([[December]] ??)
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-a1|TL-14 [[Metroplex (Cybertron)#Legacy|Metroplex]]}}
</ul>
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{{comingsoontoy|Beyond Wave 3}}

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Fictional events by year]]