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Mirror

2026-05-09T21:05:33Z

Kadeo: /* Age of the Primes */ added information about Mirror's limb kibble as it's odd I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere yet.

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:''Mirror is a Mini-Con [[combiner]] from the [[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family]].''
[[File:MirrorArmada2.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I never knew how ugly I look from here]]

'''Mirror''' (ミラー ''Mirā'') is the combined form of the Mini-Cons [[Rook (Armada)|Rook]] and [[Crosswise (Armada)|Crosswise]], the partners of the enigmatic [[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]]. Little is known about this tiny [[combiner]]'s personality or abilities, as he is generally seen only as a passenger for the treacherous [[Bulk]]'s vehicle mode, generally separating when his master transforms so that one of his halves can form Sideways's head.

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Armada'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Paul Dobson]] (English)}}
[[File:Conspiracy-Hot Shot vs Sideways.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
When Sideways arrived on [[Earth]], Mirror was riding him wearing a holographic disguise to make him look like a [[human]] clad in biker gear. When Sideways transformed, the rider retracted the disguise and split in half. His [[Rook (Armada)|top half]] became Sideways's head. His [[Crosswise (Armada)|bottom half]] vanished. {{storylink|Gale}} From then on, Mirror usually transformed from Sideways's head to ride him in motorcycle mode, though he once vanished from the scene to allow [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] to ride Sideways in battle. Later, as Sideways was speaking privately with [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] without either Mini-Con head present, he spoke in two different voices, though it is unclear if one of the voices was Mirror's. Soon after, Sideways revealed his allegiance to the Decepticons by switching heads. {{storylink|Credulous}}

In another battle, Hot Shot caused Sideways to crash, sending Mirror tumbling. Hot Shot taunted the rider for not having a seat belt. {{storylink|Conspiracy}}

After Megatron had been tossed down a crevasse by Optimus, Sideways and his driver helped haul him out. Megatron had been gravely injured by his fall though, forcing the Decepticons to retreat nonetheless. {{storylink|Trust (Armada)|Trust}}

When the last member of the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom Shield]] trio, [[Downshift (Armada)|Downshift]], became active on his own, Sideways and his rider were forced to give chase to the speedy little ‘bot. Though they were blown out of the race by [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]], the Decepticons did manage to snag the Mini-Con. {{storylink|Reinforcement}} When Megatron challenged to a decisive clash, Sideways worried that the Decepticons would end the Cybertronians' war prematurely while both the Skyboom Shield and the Star Saber were in his hands. Sideways and his rider rushed Red Alert in the middle of the battle in order to feign defeat, so that they could sneak away, and Sideways could sabotage his own team's victory. {{storylink|Decisive Battle}}

[[File:DetectionMirrorTransPhase.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Ia, ia! Cthulhu ftagn!]]

Sideways next planned to shake up the Decepticons' power structure. After planting the seeds of doubt on Megatron's competency within Demolishor's head, he and his rider sped off to allow them to take root on their own. They then came to Starscream to similarly goad him into challenging Megatron for leadership of the Decepticons. The plot was ultimately unsuccessful, though it did strengthen morale in the Decepticons' ranks. {{storylink|Rebellion (Armada)|Rebellion}}

Shortly thereafter, Sideways tried to hack the Autobot base computer, only to encounter Rad, Alexis, and Carlos attempting to destroy the equipment to stop him. He transported them to a digital universe, where a digital manifestation of Sideways, complete with rider, greeted them. Sideways taunted the children by first telling them that the Autobots only ever humored them in letting them "help," and then by declaring that they would forever be trapped in cyber-space. The children did escape though, leaving Sideways to beg forgiveness from his true master... [[Unicron]]! {{storylink|Chase (episode)|Chase}}

Henceforth, Sideways settled with helping the other Decepticons on the battlefield in a more conventional manner, despite this only leading to more losses. When [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] joined Megatron's unit, Sideways showed concern over this new addition... and with good reason; Thrust was the first to notice Sideways and his rider sneak off to converse with his unseen master. {{storylink|Tactician}} But Sideways had yet to notice that Thrust suspected he was up to no good, and participated in another of the tactician's ambushes on the Autobots. As soon as Optimus and Jetfire displayed their ability to combine, Sideways and his rider scampered away from the fight. {{storylink|Linkup}}

On the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], Sideways initiated a plan intended to turn the Decepticons against each other, then snuck off by himself into an underground cave. Mirror separated from his robot mode, and the two began to make a report to an unseen Unicron. They were interrupted, and Mirror quickly transformed back into Sideways's head. Sideways fled to the surface, where he was confronted by [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]]. They fought, but when Sideways started to lose, he turned into [[Trans-phase mode|a cloud of static]]. This angered [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], who proceeded to chop up the cloud of static with the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]]. The cloud reformed itself into an image of Mirror's head, taunted Megatron, and floated up into the sky. {{storylink|Detection}}

Later, the ghostly head of Mirror briefly reappeared on the Moon. He began a conversation with Thrust while fully manifesting into Sideways. {{storylink|Mars (episode)|Mars}}

[[File:Sideways dead.jpg|right|thumb|200px]]

Later still, inside Unicron, the [[Mini-Con]]s broke the spell Unicron had over them. This enraged Sideways, and he transformed and attacked the Mini-Cons. Optimus Prime blasted Sideways and Mirror with the [[Requiem Blaster (Armada)|Requiem Blaster]]. The heavily damaged Mirror vowed revenge before the life blinked out of his eyes. {{storylink|Origin}}

====''Linkage''====
Sideways and Mirror provided the [[Speed Chaser Team]] with [[Ravenus]] and the [[Doomstone]] in order to stop a group of rogue Mini-Cons from unlocking the [[Master Key]]. Mirror personally handed the Doomstone over to [[Top Gear]]. {{storylink|Linkage Part 8}}

===Dreamwave ''Armada'' comic===
While Rook and Crosswise were capable of controlling their combined mode on their own, it was just as common for Sideways to somehow manifest his personality through it and control his Mini-Con partners directly. Using this method, Sideways performed spying and sabotage missions on the [[Mini-Con Moonbase]] without ever having to visit it in person. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye: Transformers: Armada|More Than Meets The Eye}}

===Ask Sideways===
Known liar Sideways claimed he met his Mini-Cons on {{w|Tinder (app)|Tinder}}. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Sideways, 2015/06/28}}
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==Toys==
===''Armada''===
[[File:Arm-toy Mirror.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|So if Rook is good, and Crosswise is evil, then what the heck am I?]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Sideways with Crosswise and Rook''' (Super-Con, 2002)}}</ul>
:*''Takara/Sonokong ID number'': '''MX-01'''
:*''Takara release date'': [[April 24]], 2003
{{toydesigner|[[Aaron Archer]] (Hasbro), [[Takashi Kunihiro]] (Takara)}}

: Available only with ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Sideways (Armada)#Toys|Sideways]], "Mirror" (unnamed in the [[Hasbro]] release, the name comes from the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] version) is the combined form of Sideways's [[Mini-Con]] partners [[Rook (Armada)#Toys|Rook]] and [[Crosswise (Armada)#Toys|Crosswise]]. Rook forms the upper half, while Crosswise forms the lower half. In this mode, he can ride Sideways's motorcycle mode, secured by the tab on his hip, and even (loosely) grip the handlebars.

: The initial run of Hasbro's Sideways toys gave both Mini-Cons red paint accents. A [[variant|running change]] was made very early in the run to give Crosswise purple accents; Sideways was also altered to swap around which faction symbol each Mini-Con revealed in his chest-window when attached to him as a head, with now-purple Crosswise now revealing a Decepticon symbol, as depicted in the [[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|''Armada'' cartoon]].

: All releases of the Takara ''Legends of the Microns'' "Double Face" and all releases of the Sonokong ''Eunha Yeongung: Cybertron'' "Double Face" use the animation-matching Crosswise/purple/Decepticon-head setup.

: There is a persistent mis-assembly across all releases: according to the instructions (and animation model), Crosswise's thighs are on backwards, putting the molded tech detailing that is supposed to be on the front of the combined robot's legs on the back, leaving the detail-less backs of his legs up front. Luckily, it's easy enough to pop off the [[ball joint]]s and swap them around so the detailing shows up on Mirror's front; Crosswise's lower legs are basically identical so swapping them changes nothing.

: This mold-set was also used to make [[Nightcreeper]].

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<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Sideways with Crosswise and Rook''' (Super-Con, 2003)}}</ul>
:*''Release date'': [[November 28]], 2003

: In November of 2003, US [[Toys"R"Us]] stores had special bonus pack Max-Con toys, which came with a single bonus Mini-Con attached to the card over their sticker, for ''less'' than the price as a normal Max-Con, during their [[Black Friday (event)|post-Thanksgiving-day]] sale.

: Sideways could come with one of the [[Destruction Mini-Con Team#Toys|Destruction Mini-Con Team]] members: [[Buzzsaw (Armada)#Toys|Buzzsaw]], [[Drill Bit (Armada)#Toys|Drill Bit]], or [[Dualor (Armada)#Toys|Dualor]].

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<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-multi|'''Bonus Pack''' (2003)}}</ul>

:[[Kmart]] stores offered "Bonus Packs" later in the line's run, which were basically just a normal-release Super-Con and Mini-Con Team pack clamshelled together for ''slightly'' less than the cost of the two individually.

: Sideways has been found packed with the [[Destruction Mini-Con Team#Toys|Destruction Mini-Con Team]] and the [[Street Action Mini-Con Team#Toys|Street Action Mini-Con Team]].
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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:AOTP Armada Mirror.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Rook's head becomes a giant nipple. Now you can't unsee it.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Sideways''' (Voyager Class, [[2026]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Rook's legs, Crosswise's arms
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Tomoki Tatsumi]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMdjxMNBa7k Footage of the joint Hasbro/McFarlane Toys/Iron Studios panel] at [[CCXP#2025|CCXP 2025]] with [[Nate Purswell]] and [[Emily Bader]], recorded at the "Oficina dos Joes" YouTube channel</ref>

:Included with ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' Voyager Class [[Sideways (Armada)#AOTPArmada|Sideways]], "Mini-Con Combiner Mirror" is a somewhat faithful update of his original ''Armada'' design, formed by combining [[Rook (Armada)#Age of the Primes|Rook]] and [[Crosswise (Armada)#Age of the Primes|Crosswise]]. The same color discrepancies found on his two components carry over (including strangely Crosswise's yellow eyes despite Rook including red), and Rook's head (admittedly hilariously) ends up jutting out of his chest. Unlike the original toy, Rook's legs and Crosswise's arms [[partformer|must be removed]] for the combination. The leftover limbs can be stored on the sides of Sideways's legs/motorcycle mode, or stored on Mirror's back via a 3mm port on the back of Crosswise's face. Undocumented in his instructions, Rook's legs have slots on the sides to allow Crosswise's arms to connect to them and form a single piece similar to the "weapon" mode of the original Crosswise. In another undocumented (and possibly unintentional) feature, Mirror is capable of holding this limb weapon as Rook's hands are 3mm-compatible. Of course, Mirror can still ride Sideways in motorcycle mode.

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==Notes==
*"Mirror" is the combined form's Japanese name, fitting in with his components' Japanese names—Shadow and Bright. For a while, this rider had no official English-language name; the closest he had being the descriptor "'''Rider'''" from the toy's instructions. Eventually, with the release of the ''Age of the Primes'' toy, the rider was officially dubbed 'Mirror' in English.
*The cartoon version tends to present Mirror as a [[Triple Changer]] of sorts, transforming from the Crosswise head to the Mirror robot mode, and from there to the Rook head. In his first appearance only, he is seen separating to form Sideways's head—don't blink, you'll miss it!—but the extra Mini-Con that should have been left over is nowhere to be found. Neither Rook's nor Crosswise's individual robot mode is ever shown.
*One scene in "[[Credulous]]" briefly shows Sideways not wearing either Mini-Con as a helmet. He speaks in two distinct voices—one is his normal voice and one appears low-intelligence. Immediately after, Crosswise appears from off-screen and becomes his helmet. Any significance this may have between Sideways and his Mini-Cons is unclear. The line was not present in the Japanese version of the episode. In another scene, Sideways in vehicle mode speaks normally even though his rider is absent.
*While not entirely certain, it is implied in the cartoon (more so in the Japanese version) that Mirror is really Sideways, and the actual motorcycle's identity is unknown. This is evident by how Mirror is shown to deliver his lines, although it isn't easy to say for sure since he doesn't have a moving mouth. In Sideways's death scene, however, it is pretty clear that he is speaking in Mirror's body.
*Mirror's combined form (or at least his toy) bears a striking resemblance to the original {{w|Kamen Rider}} (the colors replicating the boots and helmet and the waist piece resembling the transformation belt), which is likely an intentional homage given Sideways' alternate mode is a motorcycle, which was a central aspect early on in the franchise.

===Foreign names===
*''Korean:'' '''Mirror''' (미러 ''Mireo'')

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Age of the Primes characters]]
[[Category:Armada Mini-Cons]]
[[Category:Combined forms]]
[[Category:Unicron-related characters]]

Breakaway (Collaborative)

2026-04-05T21:14:10Z

Kadeo: fix ussf link

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{{disambig3|Breakaway}}
:''Breakaway is an [[Autobot]] from the {{w|United_States_Soccer_Federation|USSF}} (via [[Transformers Collaborative|Collaborative]]).''
{{mainpic}}

'''Breakaway''' knows how to score.

==Toys==
===''Collaborative''===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Breakaway''' ([[2026]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' soccer ball, display stand

: ''[[Transformers Collaborative|Collaborative]]'' Breakaway transforms from a USSF soccer ball to a somewhat tall Deluxe-sized robot. The figure includes a concave display stand to display it in ball mode, as well as a small soccer ball that can mount on the tip of either of the figure's feet via a [[Fire Blast effect]]-compatible 3 mm peg. The soccer ball accessory is hinged, and can open up to fit over the figure's fist.

==Notes==
*While the name "Breakaway" is not new to ''Transformers'', a breakaway in soccer terminology is when when an attacker with the ball evades the opposing team's defenders to go one-on-one with the goalie for a scoring opportunity.

[[Category:Athletes]]
[[Category:Collaborative Autobots]]

User:Kadeo

2026-02-08T06:33:39Z

Kadeo:

I think Coolsville SUCKS!

year #2 of waiting for Studio Series Gamer Edition Warpath

Powerglide (G1)

2026-02-04T15:05:14Z

Kadeo: /* Age of the Primes */ rubsign is just (neat) painted detail according to the pulse fanstream

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{{disambig3|Powerglide}}
:''Powerglide is an [[Autobot]] [[Mini-Vehicle]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:MTMTEPowerglide.jpg|upright=1.95|thumb|He's sick of getting the bronze medal in the Ego Olympics. Sunstreaker and Tracks never let him live it down.]]

'''Powerglide''', unlike most Autobots, can fly under his own power, and it goes straight to his pointy head. Give him any excuse and awaa-aa-aay he goes, dashing off into the stratosphere at 500 mph—but not in a straight line. No, Powerglide is an aerial acrobat, able to perform stunts other Transformer planes would never dream of. Barrel rolls, tail stands, death spirals, screaming 3200-mph powerdives: none of these are too tough for this Autobot barnstormer, and if he has an audience, be they friendly or enemy, he is guaranteed to put on the air show of their lives.

Yet this seeming frivolity has saved his life countless times in combat. Powerglide is lightly armed with small [[concussion weapon|concussion bombs]] and a nose-mounted [[thermal beam]], and the former is practically useless in the air. Furthermore, his speed and power, impressive as they are, are vastly outclassed by most [[Seeker (body-type)|aerial Decepticons]]. Like the flying aces of World War I, Powerglide resorts to dogfighting maneuvers, using his flying skills to confuse and evade the enemy. This tactic works very well.

In fact, Powerglide's skill only aggravates his greatest weakness. He is good, and he knows it, and he misses no chance to show it. If this means he will seek out ever tougher foes to prove his mettle—then he'll do that, even if it kills him. Some day, it might.<ref>Generation 1 Powerglide toy bio and Marvel profile in ''[[The Transformers Universe (Marvel)|The Transformers Universe]]'' #2</ref>

Sometimes he is a member of the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]].

{{bigquote|And awaa-aa-aay we go!|Powerglide, pretty much all the time|"[[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Michael Chain]] (English), [[Hirotaka Suzuoki]] (Japanese), [[Kenyū Horiuchi]] (Japanese, "A Prime Problem"), [[Masashi Ebara]] (Japanese, ''2010'')|[[Yang Wenyuan]] (Chinese),[[Giorgio Locuratolo]] (Italian), [[Carlos Nieto]] (Latin-American Spanish, first voice), [[Javier Pontón]] (Latin-American Spanish, second voice), [[Peter Musäus]] (German, "The Girl Who Loved Powerglide"), [[Bernd Simon]] (German, "Hoist Goes Hollywood"), [[Reinhard Brock]] (German, "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5"), [[Hans-Rainer Müller]] (German, "Ghost in the Machine"), [[Crock Krumbiegel]] (German, most of the ''Generation 2'' dub), [[Christoph Jablonka]] (German, Generation 2 dub of "The Revenge of Bruticus"), [[Georges Atlas]] (European French), [[François Leccia]] (European French, "Blaster Blues" & "The Golden Lagoon"), Unknown (European French, "Dinobot Island, Part 1" & "The Master Builders"), [[Jacques Ferrière]] (European French, "A Prime Problem"), [[Olivier Destrez]] (European French, "Starscream's Brigade"), [[Mário Jorge Andrade]] (Portuguese), [[Waldir Fiori]] (Portuguese, "The Revenge of Bruticus"), [[Paulo Flores]] (Portuguese, "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5")}}
[[File:DinobotIsland1 Powerglide.jpg|thumb|left|Where did I come from?! Where did YOU come from?! Yeah, what do you say to that?!"]]
Powerglide was a brash barnstormer with a penchant for spouting gung-ho sayings like "And awaaa-aaa-aay we go!". He literally appeared out of ''nowhere'' to save [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] when the boy had been thrown overboard [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s spaceship, after the latter's plan to use a clone of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] to destroy the Autobots failed. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}}

[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and Powerglide were sent on a reconnaissance mission to investigate some strange energy readings out at sea. Inside the temporal anomaly, they discovered a [[Dinobot Island (G1)|prehistoric island]] inhabited by [[dinosaur (dinosaur)|dinosaurs]]. Powerglide had to save Bumblebee from an aggressive pterodactyl, then attempted to repair Bumblebee's damaged [[jet pack]], before abandoning it and flying Bumblebee off the island. Later, after it was decided that the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] should be relocated to the island, Powerglide led the large brutes and Spike to the island. After Spike unwittingly got himself into several dangerous situations, Powerglide flew him back home. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}}

[[File:MasterBuilders Powerglide jet mode.jpg|thumb]]
Called on to find [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], Powerglide soon located the pair working on their [[Solar Power Tower]] with the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]. He reported back to Optimus and later took part in the battle to destroy the tower, attacking [[Devastator (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Devastator]] and dogfighting with [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. {{storylink|The Master Builders (episode)|The Master Builders}} Though he was damaged during an unsuccessful attempt to prevent the Decepticons retrieving the [[Heart of Cybertron]], Powerglide volunteered to carry [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]'s miniaturised team and drop them off on Megatron's body. To his surprise, he found the Decepticons in a state of inebriation due to over-energizing. He dropped off his cargo and made a clean getaway, despite Megatron taking a shot at him. {{storylink|Microbots}}

All of the Autobots were exiled from Earth after being framed by the Decepticons. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} They ended up being set on a collision course with the [[Sun]], but at the last minute, were able to return to Earth and kick Decepticon tailpipe. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

[[File:DesertionDinobots1 Powerglide no head.jpg|thumb|left|Little known fact: Powerglide was the first Headmaster.]]
After a disastrous battle at an airport, Powerglide helped [[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] and Grapple reconstruct a building, only for it to be demolished by Grapple's inaccurate placing of the roof. Ironhide and Powerglide had a laugh at their friend's expense, but it soon turned out that the problem was more serious than a minor glitch—the Autobots were suffering by [[Cybertonium]] depletion. Powerglide's symptoms included his head falling off. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}}

When Megatron's latest plan blocked radio transmissions all over Earth, Powerglide, Spike and [[Carly (G1)|Carly]] helped Optimus guide commercial aircraft safely to the ground. They were attacked by [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], leaving Prime incapacitated and Powerglide in danger of crashing. Spike used a spare [[jet pack|rocket pack]] to stabilise Powerglide's flight, and the Autobot was able to pick up Optimus and carry him back to base. There, Carly made emergency repairs, and they took [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] to the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], where they watched Optimus and Megatron fight. {{storylink|Blaster Blues}}

[[File:GoldenLagoon Powerglide seashore.jpg|thumb]]
Powerglide was part of a group of Autobots taking a walk along a beach when they were attacked by Decepticons. As the battle raged on, [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] found a pool of [[Electrum]] and, once coated with the stuff, became impervious to the Autobot weapons. While [[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] and Perceptor were captured, Powerglide and the others escaped. Powerglide was part of the retaliatory mission; however, the rest of the Decepticons had already coated themselves in Electrum, rendering anything the Autobots could do ineffective. Damaged, Powerglide washed up on the shore in time to spy the Decepticons utilising the pool of Electrum, enabling him to fly back to base and warn the Autobots. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon (episode)|The Golden Lagoon}}

The Autobots set up a sting operation in [[New York City]] to apprehend car thieves, of which Powerglide was a part. He and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] chased Starscream into a shopping mall, but the two Autobots were unable to prevent him from getting away. {{storylink|Make Tracks}} Cosmos suggested Powerglide lead an assault on the Constructicons, who were working on an asteroid, but, to Powerglide's disappointment, Prime went to talk to Omega Supreme instead. Powerglide later helped defend [[San Francisco]] from an [[asteroid scorpion|alien creature]] unleashed from the asteroid. {{storylink|The Secret of Omega Supreme (episode)|The Secret of Omega Supreme}} During a coup by [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]], Powerglide spied on what the triple changers were up to and was able to rescue Spike when the city was flooded. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}

[[File:SearchAlphaTrion Powerglide and Moonracer.jpg|thumb|left|Their 4 million year reunion. And yes, he cheats on her the very next episode.]]
After Megatron demanded Optimus Prime's surrender in exchange for [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]], Powerglide was among the Autobots who followed him to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Once there, he was disbelieving of Starscream's claim that Optimus Prime had been destroyed. During their vengeful attack on the Decepticons, Powerglide met up with his old friend [[Moonracer (G1)|Moonracer]]. {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}

[[File:Pgalove.jpg|thumb|"Don't worry, I won't hug her too hard."]]
Soon after hooking up with Moonracer, he saved the fleshling female [[Astoria Carlton-Ritz]] from being kidnapped by Ramjet, Thrust and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]. He was assigned to escort her back to Autobot HQ, but they were again attacked by the coneheads, who injured Powerglide and snatched Astoria. After receiving some repairs from [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], Powerglide set off for the Decepticon [[Sky Platform]] to rescue Astoria. Caught in the platform's security field, Powerglide was helped by Astoria herself, who destroyed an energy tower. Unfortunately the damage left the platform plummeting out of control, but Powerglide was able to rig it to crash into the [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Earth)|Decepticon base]].

Afterwards, it seemed as though Powerglide had developed feelings for Astoria, much to the amusement of the other Autobots. The only lasting result was a series of flashing lights under his chestplate in the form of a stylized heart. What purpose this served (other than being disturbing) is not immediately clear. {{storylink|The Girl Who Loved Powerglide}}

[[File:Hoist goes hollywood1.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"Hey, human, when I'm in jet mode, you fit in my head."]]
After thoroughly embarrassing himself by accidentally destroying several sets and props in an attempt to show off, Powerglide was among [[Sunstreaker (G1)|several]] [[Tracks (G1)|egotistical]] [[Warpath (G1)|Autobots]] who demanded to be given a role in a movie that [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] was starring in. Initially, his "role" amounted to crashing into a STORE while in jet mode (supposedly to stop "the crooks"). Soon afterwards, Powerglide and the other would-be-actor Autobots asked Hoist to talk to the [[Attack of the Alien Robots director|director]] to get them some "real" acting roles. After reworking the movie into ''[[Attack of the Alien Robots]]'', the director had the Autobots given cheesy alien face masks. Powerglide remarked that the role was "the pits", and that he would rather do the stunt crashes. In a later scene, Powerglide demonstrated his rather wooden acting "skills". Guess he was better suited for stunts. {{storylink|Hoist Goes Hollywood (episode)|Hoist Goes Hollywood}}

Powerglide was one of the Autobots who volunteered to rescue Perceptor from the Decepticons. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}} He took part in the defence of headquarters against another attack by the Decepticons, only to be puzzled when Megatron almost immediately called a retreat. After some investigation, it turned out Starscream had stolen some [[personality component]]s to create the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]. Powerglide set out to find the rebel Decepticons, and soon found them fighting Megatron's forces at the [[Amalgamated Water and Power Plant]] {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}} During a massive attack on a human city by the Insecticons, Powerglide dropped Spike and Perceptor off in the battle zone, so the pair could warn the Autobot leader about strange signals coming from Cybertron. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}}

Powerglide and the rest of the Minibots tried to repel the Decepticons' [[Trypticon (G1)|new mobile assault base]]—and failed. When the colossal 'con took several direct hits and seemed to be falling apart, Powerglide cheerfully reported that they had destroyed it—then in his shock, just happened to [[To sell toys|narrate aloud]] that it had a reptilian mode too. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}

[[File:GhostinMachine Powerglide and Bumblebee.jpg|thumb]]
Powerglide appeared to have been destroyed during a disastrous Autobot attack on the [[Quintesson]]s led by a resurrected, reprogrammed Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Dark Awakening (episode)|Dark Awakening}} However, he was later among the Autobots who attempted to stop [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and Starscream's [[Spark|ghost]] from stealing [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'s [[Sensor|eyes]], so he must have gotten better. Unfortunately, a blind Metroplex accidentally shot him down, but Warpath saved him. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (G1)|Ghost in the Machine}}

{{note|The above appearance in "Dark Awakening" is likely a result of a careless animation team using the animation model of Powerglide to represent an Autobot spaceship rather than Powerglide himself, as the footage of "his" destruction is used twice during the battle sequence.}}
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====''The Transformers'' public service announcements====
When three boys dismissed a girl who wanted to join them in skateboarding around a park, Powerglide flew down from above and admonished them for their sexist assumptions about the girl's skateboarding ability. He then urged her to show what she could do, as she demonstrated her impressive skills to the boys' amazement. Powerglide once again reminded them not to pass premature judgment on others. {{storylink|Public service announcement#Transformers public service announcements|Don't Jump To Conclusions}}

====''TV Magazine'' comic continuity====
=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====
[[File:Powerglide minibot combiner.jpg|thumb|left|250px]]

Arriving in Tokyo, [[Japan]], Powerglide intervened on [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]'s attack on [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and the Autobots' human friend, [[Kenji]]. Instead of shooting the Decepticon from the air, Powerglide zoomed in close and decked Ravage with a partially transformed hand. PG then grabbed Kenji and flew off, leaving Bumblebee alone to face [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] and his cassettes. For some reason. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 2|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #2}} Later, Powerglide was also present when Optimus Prime was showing Kenji around the Autobots' base in Japan. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 4|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #4}}

While surveying the desert, Powerglide came across the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] hunting down an innocent [[Battle Dog|dog]]. He interfered with their mission, but took heavy firepower shielding the animal with his own body. Seriously injured, Powerglide transformed in a desperate attempt to keep the dog alive just a little longer inside his cockpit. Surprisingly, the puppy managed to operate his control console and keep Powerglide moving long enough for a [[Mini Vehicle|Minibot]] patrol to respond to his SOS. It seemed that Megatron had incorporated powerful energy inside the puppy as a plot to conquer Earth. In order to avoid being used by the Decepticons, the puppy sacrificed himself to channel massive amounts of [[Scramble Power]] into Powerglide. [[Minibot combiner|United as one]], Powerglide and the Minibots used Scramble Power to deliver a mighty blow against [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]], defeating the Combaticons. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 8|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #8}}

=====''The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms'' comic=====
Powerglide was stationed at Autobot City in 2010. He welcomed a group of children visiting the Autobot base as they were being shown around by Ultra Magnus. {{storylink|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 3|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers #3}}

====Full Throttle Scramble Power!====
Powerglide accompanied the massive Autobot reinforcements called in to counter Megatron's nefarious [[Omega Wave Cannon]]. {{storylink|Full Throttle Scramble Power!}}

====''The Battle of the Star Gate''====
Powerglide was led to Japan by Optimus Prime, along with a small team of other Autobots, to stop the Decepticons' latest Energon-gathering scheme. Optimus ordered him to pursue Astrotrain to prevent the Decepticons from escaping with their loot. In the end, a duplicate Starscream appeared and took off with the Energon cache along with his other self. {{storylink|Activation}}

Powerglide was amongst the Autobots who once more confronted Megatron and his Decepticons at the ''[[Trigger]]'' in Earth orbit. When Starscream combined himself with the ''Trigger'' to create a powerful new body for himself, Powerglide had to contend with the volley of asteroids thrown towards both Autobots and Decepticons from Starscream's star gate. He was then almost sucked into a portal to a black hole when Starscream neared defeat, but was instead sent plummeting down to Earth when Optimus and Megatron worked together to defeat Starscream. {{storylink|The Battle of the Star Gate}}

====''Wings Universe''====
{{Wingsnote}}
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Powerglide was present at the first "meeting" of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 6}}
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===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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[[File:Powerglidereadytoblastoffrightnow.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|We bet you are. Don't be crude, Powerglide.]]
Powerglide was a member of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]'s [[Cybertron Seven|resistance cell]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] during the reign of [[Straxus (G1)|Straxus]]. Like most of his comrades, he found more inspiration in [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s bravado than the calculated caution of Perceptor. When their untrustworthy scout, [[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]] went missing, Powerglide and his peers fell in line with Blaster's plan to find and rescue him, overruling Perceptor. After much searching, all but Blaster had given up on Scrounge, but Powerglide had stayed to secretly shadow Blaster, allowing the air-capable Autobot to deliver him to safety out of the [[smelting pool]] (regrettably leaving Scrounge behind). This act gave Perceptor's small group of Autobots the first good news they had heard in eons, for Scrounge had handed them evidence that [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] lived. {{storylink|The Smelting Pool!}}

[[File:Powerglideblastercybertronic.jpg|thumb|Cybertronic altmode: paper airplane]]
Further reconnaissance by Blaster and Powerglide revealed startling news—the Decepticons were building a [[space bridge]]! As this would spell certain doom for both Cybertron and [[Earth]], a desperate raid on Straxus's [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]] fortress was launched. This attack was mostly successful, as it leveled Darkmount and ended in Straxus's destruction, but Powerglide and the rest of his Autobot comrades had to retreat to Earth over the Space Bridge as it self-destructed. Here they were greeted immediately by a group of humans. {{storylink|The Bridge to Nowhere!}} Though Megatron and his troops spotted the Autobots upon their materialization on Earth, the Decepticons were distracted by a more pressing mission at the time, and left without attacking the new arrivals. {{storylink|Command Performances!}} However, the humans belonged to the anti-robot attack team, [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. While Powerglide and the other Autobots, unfamiliar with how things worked on Earth, tried to talk to their vehicles, RAAT deployed "electric snow" missiles to disorient the Transformers. Powerglide's group was then too dazed to fight back, and were captured with the help of [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]]. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}} Powerglide and his fellows were disassembled, with their heads getting mounted on the wall of RAAT's headquarters. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}} The Autobots were only given a chance at freedom after Circuit Breaker was forced to elicit their aid to defeat the [[Battlecharger]]s. Powerglide and the other Autobots' components were combined to form a [[Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit|jury-rigged robot]] that Circuit Breaker used to stop the duo while they were defacing the status of liberty. After [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] were sent packing, Powerglide and the Autobots were allowed to go free. {{storylink|Decepticon Graffiti!}}

''Following [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] back to the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], Powerglide and the others got lost after their guide spontaneously vanished into [[limbo]]. Even worse was the reason for the disappearance—[[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] had returned to the present. Unlike most of his fellows, Powerglide actually managed to get a good shot in before Galvatron knocked the circuits out of him. {{storylink|Fallen Angel}} After Galvatron was forced into retreat by the vagrant [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]], Perceptor's team finally managed to reach the Ark, where they learned of Optimus Prime's apparent demise at the hands of the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. Powerglide attended Prime's funeral and assimilated into Earth's depleted Autobot forces, though it was soon revealed that Prime's death was a ruse. {{storylink|Resurrection!}} ''

[[File:Blasterbeourleaderplease.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|"Is this the line for the mutiny?"]]
When Optimus Prime died ''(for real)'' after a digital battle with [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], Powerglide observed with the other Autobots as [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] failed to successfully repair their fallen leader. After attending Prime's ''(real)'' funeral, a criminal known as the [[Mechanic]] turned the Ark's new security systems on the mourning Autobots, with devastating results. Though Powerglide was counted among the wounded due to this incident, Ratchet was able to best the intruder and vowed to fix all of the Autobots post-haste afterwards. {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} Powerglide was at the receiving end of massive firepower once more when [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] attacked the Ark. Had it not been for the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots']] timely intervention, the behemoth would have likely reduced all of the Autobots' forces to scrap. {{storylink|King of the Hill!}} [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]], Prime's successor in leadership, turned out to be a self-interested tyrant, but he did help get the Ark repaired and off of Earth, a large process that Powerglide contributed to by feeding [[Energon cube]]s to their new [[Geothermal Generator]]. {{storylink|Child's Play (issue)|Child's Play}} Nevertheless, Powerglide was among the Autobots who begged Blaster to overthrow him, but the mutiny didn't pan out, as the Dinobots were able to get Blaster to surrender to them after they endangered some of his [[Spacehikers|human allies]]. {{storylink|Spacehikers!}} Later, Blaster and Grimlock battled for supremacy on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], as Powerglide and the other Autobots cheered Blaster on. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

Some time after Optimus Prime's return, Powerglide was among several Autobots who responded to [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]]'s distress call near the Decepticons' [[Club Con|arctic base]]. However, this was a trap, and Powerglide was shot down in battle by some Decepticon aerial aces, including [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]] and the ever-frightening [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]. {{storylink|Dark Star}} He was identified as deactivated several weeks later. {{storylink|Yesterday's Heroes!}}
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====''Regeneration One''====
{{NoteRG1}}
[[File:Lancer one crew war to end all wars.jpg|thumb|The Autobots came to regret watching the new G.I. Joe movies.]]
Following the final battle with the Decepticons, the ''[[Warworld]]'' and the [[Blitz Engine]]s, Powerglide discovered [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]'s body on the surface of Cybertron and hurried over to notify the freshly minted [[Hot Rod (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Rodimus Prime]]. When they realised that the Decepticon leader was still alive Prime had Powerglide notify a medic, leaving the Minibot to marvel with [[Kup (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Kup]] at their leader's new-found maturity. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 1}} Later, Powerglide took part in the assault against [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s forces at the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], as part of the crew of ''[[Lancer One]]'' alongside [[Scattershot (G1)|Scattershot]], [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] and [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] under the command of [[Wheeljack (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Wheeljack]]. Although they successfully carried out their mission, Jhiaxus was prepared for them and the Autobots' attack fell to pieces shortly afterwards. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 3}}
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===''Big Looker'' storybooks===

Powerglide did a reconnaissance flight over Decepticon headquarters before the Autobots stormed the base to get the cerebro-shelled [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] back. {{storylink|Insecticon Attack!}}
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===''Find Your Fate Junior''===
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====Dinobots Strike Back====
In one micro-continuity-nexus in which four of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] were taken over by [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell's]] [[cerebro-shell]]s, Powerglide was part of the Autobot attack force if Optimus Prime chose to attack immediately. He dropped a small concussion bomb near [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]], bringing the Stegosaurus to his knees. This prompted [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] to spew a jet of fire at Powerglide, which he managed to dodge.

In an alternate ending, Powerglide was part of a full-scale land, air, and sea assault on the Decepticons' secret base in [[Mount Lomas]]. With a little backup from [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], he apparently took down all of Megatron's warrior jets with his thermal beam, giving the ground force the cover they needed to storm the base and torch the superfuel lab. {{storylink|Dinobots Strike Back}}

====Earthquake====
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While the rest of the Autobots were discussing how nice the recent lull in Decepticon activity was, the fidgety Powerglide longed for the evil robots to surface once more, so that he'd get a chance to "teach them a thing or two."

In one possible sequence of events, Powerglide got his wish when Beachcomber returned to Autobot base from his day off, having discovered a secret Decepticon fortress. Powerglide, Beachcomber and Windcharger were sent out to investigate whatever ploy the Decepticons were hatching. Once the three Autobots arrived at the cliff face that concealed the Decepticons' base, the three of them debated on which course of action they should take. Powerglide advocated for walking in through the front door.

If the three Autobots decided to walk through the main entrance, Windcharger was promptly crushed by the fortress's doors, which then let loose a swarm of Decepticons. Rumble was tricked into causing an earthquake, which brough down the Decepticons and their fortress in one fell swoop. Beahcomber and Powerglie then retrieved the damaged Windcharger.

If the trio decided instead to look for an alternate entrance into the Decepticon fortress, they discovered a narrow passageway hidden behind bushes and scrubs. Beachcomber's squad went into the passage and emerged in storage room. Leading out of the storage room was a passage not unlike the one from which they had just emerged, and a brightly lit corridor. Powerglide opted to investigate the brightly lit corridor.

In one possible sequence of events where Powerglide investigated the base on his own, he was captured by the Decepticons and reprogrammed to lead them to the Autobots’ headquarters. The Autobots, unprepared for a surprise attack were felled one by one.

If Beachcomber decided to explore the brightly lit corridor with Powerglide, the pair soon found the entire fortress to be eerily silent, until they heard Megatron expositing his plan to Soundwave. Beachcomber and Powerglide learned that the Decepticons planned to use a Destruction Beam to create a fault line near Center City, which would in turn be exploited by Rumble's earthquake-inducing abilities to destroy the entire area. With this knowledge, Powerglide and Beachcomber raced out of the fortress, meeting up with Windcharger en route, and returned to Autobot headquarters. The Autobots then decided to split up in two groups, one to attack the Decepticons’ fortress, the other to stop Rumble in Center city. Powerglide was assigned to the secondary team.

If the secondary team was tasked with attacking the Decepticons’ fortress, they were able to stealthily infiltrate the base and discover the Decepticon's lab. In one possible version of the events that followed, the Autobots were then able to redirect the Destruction Beam back to its source, destroying the Decepticons and their base.

In another version of these events, Megatron called his troops to him so they could all partake in Cosmos's dismemberment. Before the Decepticons were able to begin, Cosmos spotted the secondary team hiding nearby. Surrounding the Decepticons, the secondary team engaged their enemies. Though the Autobots defeated the Decepticons, they were unable to interfere with the Destruction beam. The beam reached its target, and Center City was destroyed. Though the Autobots were able to gain control of the Decepticon fortress and destroy the lab, they were not able to wipe out all of the evil robots, and enjoyed a pyrrhic victory at best.

Alternatively, if Beachcomber decided to have Windcharger, Powerglide and himself each investigate a different area of the Decepticons’ fortress, Beachcomber would get himself captured, leading to his teammate's capture. Powerglide was ordered executed by Buzzsaw while the Decepticons carried on with their evil deeds. {{storylink|Earthquake (book)|Earthquake}}
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====Desert Flight====
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Powerglide was part of a group of the Autobots’ best scouts, led by Optimus on a fuel-finding mission. When the convoy came to a sudden halt, Powerglide's engines stalled an he nearly crashed before the Autobots’ newest adventure had even begun. Thankfully, Windcharger used his magnetic powers to halt Powerglide's decent. Back at a safe altitude, Powerglide offered to go check out the distant explosion that had caused the Autobots to suddenly halt in the first place. Optimus declined Powerglide's offer, opting to send Cosmos to investigate instead.

If Cosmos radioed his findings to Optimus immediately, Optimus's convoy moved in to investigate a nearby Decepticon base. As they approached it, the Autobots noted a nearby human settlement before their earthbound forces began floating in mid-air. Evidently, the phenomenon was caused by a Decepticon anti-gravity weapon.

If Optimus ordered his troops to come to the humans’ aid, they found themselves taking part in a struggle in futility, as the entire town was near-weightless, meaning they couldn't put the humans anywhere where they wouldn't float away once more. Then, the Autobots heard Decepticons approaching. Helpless in their current position, the Autobots were quickly eradicated by the Decepticons.

If Optimus ordered his troops to attack the Decepticon base, they soon reached an area free of the anti-gravity beam's influence. Flying ahead of the group, Powerglide was on the receiving end of Thrust's surprise attack. Undeterred, Powerglide charged Thrust, ready for a game of chicken. Having psyched out his opponent, Powerglide was able to quickly finish him off, before circling back and downing Ramjet. Losing their advantage quickly, the Decepticons retreated. But with the battle over, the Autobots noticed a small human boy at their feet. The Autobots then headed for the Decepticon base, with their stowaway. Megatron delivered an ultimatum; if the Autobots did not surrender Optimus Prime to the Decepticons immediately, he would use his gravity beam to have the nearby humans float off into space.

If the Autobots decided to continue with their initial plan to simply attack the Decepticon base, a decision Powerglide was all too happy to support, their advance was halted by a force field. Megatron then fired his beam in all directions, causing a ripple effect that sent everything not fastened down to the Earth's surface to float helplessly out into space.

Alternatively, the Autobots could concoct a plan where Optimus would pretend to allow himself to be taken prisoner, per Buddy's suggestion. In actuality, most of the Autobots were hidden away inside Optimus's trailer. Powerglide and Cosmos were themselves waiting outside the base for Windcharger to disable the forcefield from within.

In the event that Windcharger successfully turned the forcefield off, Powerglide burst into the base, guns ablaze, and foiled a sneak attack Megatron was about to perform upon Optimus. He then evaded an attack from both Ravage and Frenzy, causing the two Decepticons to crash into one another.

In the event that Buddy tampered with the gravity gun in the ensuing battle, the Autobots would emerge victorious.

In the event that Buddy instead entered a space-time anomaly created throughout the course of the battle, the Autobots would lose their fight against the Decepticons, and Powerglide wound up either injured or dead.

In a completely different possible sequence of events, wherein Cosmos had taken off to explore the Decepticon base on his own, The Autobot convoy were surprised to see two Cosmoses flying back towards them some time later. Both Cosmoses declared themselves to be the real one, and urged Optimus to destroy the other.

If Optimus destroyed the wrong Cosmos, the duplicate obliterated Smokescreen and the rest of the Autobots with the [[proton bomb]] it housed within its body.

If Optimus destroyed the duplicate Cosmos, the real one would inform the Autobots of the Decepticons’ schemes, and the convoy would roll out to take on their adversaries. They were soon met by a squad of flying Decepticons, but were at a strict disadvantage against their adversaries as their vehicle modes possessed no weapons. The Autobots nonetheless managed to fight their way to the Decepticons’ base, one way or another, and defeated the Decepticons by using their own gravity weapon against them. {{storylink|Desert Flight}}
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====Decepticon Poison====
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As the Autobots were refuelling, they were interrupted by Red Alert, who warned the others that he had spotted nearby. All Autobots who had taken their fill of their newest batch of fuel found themselves unable to Transform, and correctly deduced that the Decepticons had poisoned their fuel supply. In a possible sequence of events wherein Optimus returned from the Decepticons’ lab with the antidote to the poison, the Autobot leader informed his troops of the Decepticons’ next plot. The evil robots were planning poison a nearby water reservoir in order to turn humans into mindless slaves. If Optimus decided to end his troops to the water reservoir to prevent this attack, Powerglide was amongst the group of Autobots that found the reservoir swarmed by Decepticons upon their arrival.

Seeing an opportunity to show off his aerial skills, Powerglide took off, announcing that he would lead the Decepticons on a wild goose chase. Optimus protested, ordering Powerglide to stay with the group.

If Powerglide continued despite Optimus's orders, he effortlessly dodged enemy fire only to mess things up when he downed Frenzy with a [[cluster bomb]], causing the barrels of poison the Decepticon was carrying to explode into the water reservoir.

If Powerglide did as he was told, he and the other Autobots attempted to lure the Decepticons away from the reservoir and into some nearby woods, where they would have some cover against the Decepticons. {{storylink|Decepticon Poison}}
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====Autobot Alert!====
[[File:AutobotAlertCyclonusonscreen.jpg|thumb|left]]
Powerglide was in Metroplex city when an Autobot Alert sounded.

In one possible scenario, Powerglide was selected alongside Mirage, Swoop, Jazz and Prowl, to join Ultra Magnus on an orbital mission to both rescue Cosmos and halt a Decepticon plot to take over Earth's broadcast satellites.After donning special space gear for solar protection, the team took off and headed towards Cosmos's last coordinates. Arriving in orbit, Powerglide was the first to spot Cosmos drifting in the blackness of space. But looming nearby was also Cyclonus, Galvatron's ship. Powerglide and Mirage retrieved the Autobot saucer with the help of magnetic cables. Ultra Magnus ordered his troops to train all of their weapons on Cyclonus for a full-frontal assault. Doubting the wisdom of this plan, Powerglide pulled Swoop aside and suggested that they instead attempt a sneak attack on Cyclonus.

If the Autobots went along with Ultra Magnus's plan, Powerglide and the rest of the Autobots were horrorstruck when Galvatron himself emerged from Cyclonus, followed by an army of multiwing jet fighters. Ppwerglide and the others were left drifting helplessly into space as the Decepticons tore their shuttle apart.

If Swoop and Powerglide went ahead with their own plan, Powerglide worked on distracting Cyclonus with his fancy maneuvers while Swoop moved in position to use his superior firepower. With all of Cyclonus's attention trained onto Powerglide, Swoop was successful in destroying the Decepticons’ transmission apparatus, bringing their plot to an end.

In a completely different possible scenario, wherein Ultra Magnus agreed to prioritize theft of the coded message, Powerglide was part of the captive audience that listened to Kup divulge information about an ancient Autobot formula. Powerglide took off towards the Autobots’ desert research centre along with a number of other Autobots. Once there, they learned from Springer that the Cybertite sphere containing the formula was discovered by humans during the 16th century. If the Decepticons had decoded Springer's message, they would be searching off the coast of California, where the ship containing the sphere had sunk. If they hadn't decoded the message, the Decepticons would still be digging in the nearby crater.

If Ultra Magnus decided to assume that the Decepticons had already decrypted the message, he ordered his forces to split up to more efficiently address the situation. Powerglide was sent ahead to scout out the California coast. Arriving ahead of the land-bound Autobots, Powerglide was able to quickly spot the sunken ship which held the cybertite sphere, and signalled the other Autobots about his find. The Autobots then needed to decide whether they would raise the ship themselves, or try and ambush the Decepticons after they had done so. {{storylink|Autobot Alert!}}
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====The Invisibility Factor====
[[File:Sarah Sanders.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|"Ultra Magnus, who stacked all that box art in the doorway?"]]
In one possible scenario, the Decepticons gained control of an [[Invisibility Device]]. When the invisible Decepticons attacked Metroplex city, Powerglide and the rest of the Autobots were reduced to scrap metal, unable to fight the unseen enemy.

In another scenario, where the Autobots gave up searching for a ship with invisibility capabilities, Powerglide and the rest of the Autobots within Metroplex were caught by surprise by a fleet of identical ships swooping down upon them. The Autobots were all destroyed as Galvatron gloated of his victory.

In yet another possible scenario, Powerglide participated in a battle against the Decepticons when the evil robots attacked Metroplex while using Invisibility Devices. Thanks to the Invisibility Device's inventor, [[Sarah Sanders]], the Autobots were in possession of an [[Invisibility Scrambler]] to counteract the Decepticons’ Invisibility Device. Anticipating the Decepticons’ attack, the Autobots successfully defeated the evil robots when they came. {{storylink|The Invisibility Factor}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[File:Powerglideoutbackwarwithin.jpg|100px|thumb|left|The paper-airplaneness of his Dreamwave Cybertronic altmode is unknown.]]
Powerglide was operational during the early days of the war, and was seen in [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] shortly after [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]'s demise. After Optimus had ordered an Autobot exodus from Cybertron, Powerglide helped load up some crates in preparation for their departure. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} When the Decepticons attacked [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Powerglide was advised by [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] mid-battle, who told him to target [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]'s lateral fuel line to deliver maximum damage to his opponent. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}}

In the modern era, Powerglide was a member of one of the later-formed Autobot resistance cells on Cybertron, in communication with [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] along with several other [[Mini Vehicle|Minibots]]. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (issue)|Countdown to Extinction}} He participated in the final insurrection which threw [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and his Decepticons out of power on Cybertron. Afterwards, he was assigned to [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s command and traveled to Earth on a supply run aboard the starship ''[[Orion]]''. While en route, the ''Orion'' received an emergency transmission from the ''Ark'': the Earthbound Autobots were under attack from the Decepticons! {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}}

[[File:Powerglidenightofthecombaticons.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb|Bumblebee needs a smaller command chair.]]
The ''Orion''<nowiki>'</nowiki> simple supply mission ended with heavy combat against the amazingly-powerful clone, [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]], who overloaded the ''Orion'' with energy, causing it to crash. The ''Orion''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s crew walked away from their rough landing unharmed however, and Sunstorm left in pursuit of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Powerglide and his team set about repairing their ship, and accomplished the task in a few hours. The Autobots were getting ready for some well-earned rest when Starscream returned, now accompanied by [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}} Recognizing the greater threat that Sunstorm posed, the Autobots agreed to ally themselves with [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] in order to deal with him. Powerglide might have raised a complaint to being assigned to guard their new "partner", but Starscream betrayed them and deactivated Powerglide's unit so fast, it's hard to be sure he even had a chance to speak up. {{storylink|The Omega Effect}}

[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] presumably got him back online in time to help with the construction of [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]]. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}
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===''The Beast Within''===
Powerglide participated in a savage battle against the Decepticons, though he did not fare too well, and got blasted out of the sky by Astrotrain early during the conflict. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}
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===2005 IDW continuity===
{{First|[[Chaos Part Two: Numbers|''Transformers vol. 1'' #26]]}}

[[File:Powerglide Life After the Big Bang.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.3|I was on the ''Lost Light''?]]
Powerglide was among the Autobots poised to fight against [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]]'s army on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Led by [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], he and the other Autobot fliers attacked [[Kimia Facility]] and fought with the many [[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]] defending it. {{storylink|Chaos Part Two: Numbers|Numbers}}

Once the battle was won and the war was over, Powerglide joined the crew of the ''[[Lost Light]]'' to participate in the search for the [[Knights of Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|Hangers On}} {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} He spent some time in [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'s bar where he was confused by [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]]'s drunken antics. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} When [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] was unleashed within the ship, Powerglide joined the rest of the crew in trying to defeat him. {{storylink|Under Cold Blue Stars}} After Swerve's bar was trashed by [[Legislator]]s and Swerve was considering closing down, Powerglide and several other Autobots cheered him up and helped him rebuild. {{storylink|No Guns, No Swords, No Briefcases}}

[[File:TheWorldofTomorrow-AlphaBravo.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|HE SAID THE THING.]]
Powerglide left the crew of the ''Lost Light'' after [[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|Dark Cybertron]], and would later volunteer to act as a member of [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] in an effort to provide [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]] with a [[combiner]] to defend against [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|The World of Tomorrow}}

He was present when Wheeljack received the [[Enigma of Combination]] from [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]]. [[Alpha Bravo]] and Powerglide were both exposed to the energies of the artifact, granting them the power to combine with the other Aerialbots as part of the new Superion; in Powerglide's case, he gained the ability to transform into Superion's gun. {{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}}

As part of Starscream's political maneuvers, Powerglide and the new Aerialbots were deployed to [[Caminus (planet)|Caminus]] to stop Menasor. Superion was able to dispatch the Stunticon combiner, blasting him using gun-mode Powerglide. {{storylink|The Sum and Its Parts}} Following a clash with Devastator, Superion was briefly reduced to his components, although Starscream thought otherwise and forcibly reintegrated the Aerialbots back into Superion. {{storylink|Mistakes and Mayhem}}

Much to Optimus Prime's concern, Superion hadn't separated since the fight with Devastator; [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]] commented that for all intents and purposes Superion ''was'' the new default form for the Aerialbots. {{storylink|You, Me, and the Universe}}

[[File:EdgeOfTheEarth AerialbotsAttacked.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.5|On a team with [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] and [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]], Powerglide is suddenly one of the cautious, responsible guys.]]
As Superion joined Optimus Prime's Autobots on Earth, he disassembled into his individual Aerialbot components from time to time. Powerglide and the Aerialbots performed a "bombing" run in the arid desert, releasing payloads that caused dramatic botanical growth where they fell, providing food to support the local humans. Powerglide and the Aerialbots then fled the air resistance they faced, reluctantly holding to Prime's orders to not engage any human counter-strikes. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 2: Edge of the Earth|Edge of the Earth}}

During a conflict with [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]], however, the ancient Decepticon manipulated the power of the Enigma of Combination through the Onyx Interface's source code, creating new combiners under his control and disrupting existing ones. As a natural-born combiner, uncreated by the Enigma, Superion had some immunity. He copied and isolated the Onyx code into his own core-processor then dismantled himself, neutralizing the Onyx code so long as the Aerialbots remained separated. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 5: As Above...So Below|As Above...So Below}} Powerglide and the other discombobulated Aerialbots were recovered from the site of the ocean battle {{storylink|White Light}} and returned to the newly established [[Metrotitan (G1)|Autobot City]] to recover. {{storylink|White Heat}}

Powerglide and the Aerialbots returned to Cybertron and took to the skies when [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Onyx Prime]] descended on their homeworld aboard [[Nemesis (BW)|Nemesis]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 2: Another Mine|Another Mine}} During the battle with [[Unicron]], he combined with his fellow Aerialbots into Superion to help defeat the planet-eater for good. {{storylink|Ceremony}}
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===''BeCool'' shorts===
{{voiceactor|[[Takanori Yagi]] (Japanese)}}
'''Red Jet''' (赤のジェット機 ''Aka no Jettoki'') was a smug and self-assured flyer. {{storylink|The Self-Introduction Chapter}} Nevertheless, he managed to get lost in a forest, only to find [[Bumblebee (G1)|Yellow Sports Car]]... who was also lost. Together, they agreed to find their way out. The observing [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Trailer]] wondered why Red Jet didn't just fly out. {{storylink|The Story of the Lost Plane!}}

Red Jet was later part of the audience for ''Quiz! BeCool'', {{storylink|The Story of Quiz! BeCool}} and witness to the filming of a movie interrupted by the fire brigade thinking it was a real emergency. {{storylink|The Story of the Fire Brigade Dispatch!}}

===''Kre-O'' bio===
Powerglide was a supersonic daredevil and aerial acrobatic ace, but also a huge attention-seeking showoff—he didn't see the point of pulling off his amazing stunts unless he had an audience. His dream was to appear on his favorite show, ''[[KREONS Have Talent!]]''. {{storylink|Transformers: Kre-O Character Encyclopedia}}

===''Transformers vs. G.I. Joe''===
Powerglide was stationed within [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] when both [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] and a mind-controlled [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] attacked the Autobot city. He bore witness to [[Hot Rod (G1)|Imhotep Rodimus]] seizing leadership from Grimlock in the middle of the siege. {{storylink|Everybody Hates Metroplex}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[War World: Prime|''Transformers'' #25]] (mentioned); [[Lord of Misrule: Test Flight II|#32]] (full)}}
[[File:TestFlightII-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5]]
A former member of [[Strika's Heavies]], Powerglide threw his lot in with the Autobots during the Decepticon uprising and was sent to rouse his former comrade [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] from stasis. {{storylink|War World: Prime|Prime}}

====Alternate future====
In the future ruled by [[Exarchon]], Powerglide was one of the last resistors alongside [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Swift (G1)|Swift]], and [[Blackjack (G1)|Blackjack]]. Energon had run dry, forcing them to forfeit their alt modes to stay charged purely on [[Nucleon (substance)|nucleon]]. They discovered the temporally-displaced [[Jumpstream]], but Powerglide was killed by [[Triggerhappy (G1)|Triggerhappy]] as Exarchon's loyalists descended on them. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Test Flight II|Test Flight II}}

===''Transformers vs. The Terminator''===
By the year [[2029]], the Decepticons had wiped out the Autobots and devastated the planet Earth, with Powerglide having died from a crash landing, his shattered wreckage half-buried beneath a collapsed [[Los Angeles]] freeway near other Cybertronian bodies. {{storylink|Enemy of My Enemy Part One}}

==Commercial appearances==
*Powerglide and [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] were pinned down on the battlefield by the Decepticon triple-changers, [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. Thankfully, the new recruits [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] arrived on the scene and were able to chase off the Decepticon aggressors. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Sandstorm, Broadside, Octane|Sandstorm, Broadside, and Octane commercial}}
*Powerglide and the Aerialbots received a message from Optimus Prime alerting them that [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] was wreaking havoc in a human city, and that the threat was "bigger than ever." The Aerialbots combined into Superion to better combat the Decepticon, with Powerglide delivering the first blow in his gun mode. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#2015|Transformers Generations: Combiner Wars commercials}}

==Games==
===''Bot Shots Battle Game!''===
[[Image:Bsbg-powerglide.jpg|thumb]]
Powerglide participated in numerous one-on-one matches against other Autobots and Decepticons, using his fists, his sword, or his gun to defeat his opponents. Sometimes, he even faced off against himself! {{storylink|Bot Shots Battle Game!}}

===''Transformers Legends''===
Part of a small task force led by Hound, Powerglide took part in a kerfuffle against the Decepticons and [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]]. The outcome of the fight was unclear. {{storylink|By Land, Sea, or Air}}

Powerglide was injured, and had [[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], and [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] come to his aid. The trio were delayed when they became friendly with the Constructicons, but after the sudden but inevitable betrayal, the three Autobots took him to safety. {{storylink|The Master Builders (Legends)|The Master Builders}} Powerglide fought against the combined Decepticon and Quintesson forces when they attacked Cybertron. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness: Part 3}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:BattleTacticsPowerglide.jpg|thumb|left|300px|He has a [[Kre-O]] cannon and he's not afraid to use it!]]

Powerglide participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was a Common character that could be recruited by collecting 24 units of Cybermetal. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
[[File:PowerglideEarthWars.jpg|thumb|upright=2|WHEEEEEEEEE!]]
To say Powerglide delights in his aerial prowess is a huge understatement.
He loves showing off his dazzling airborne virtuosity, and isn't above a bit of gratuitous grandstanding. He's equally happy performing for friend or foe, as long as he gets the requisite appreciation.
But deep down, Powerglide's bravado covers up for his lack of speed in aerial mode, and low strength in robot mode. {{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars| Powerglide Bio}}

When Silverbolt and the other Aerialbots came to earth, Powerglide combined with the others and formed the gun that Superion holds. He helped in destroying many Decepticon Headquarters. {{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars|Combiner Wars Campaign}}

*'''Class''': Air
*'''Lowest Star Rating:''' 1 star
*'''Weapons''': Powerglide uses a flamethrower to burn defenses.
*'''Ability: Bombing Run''': Drops 12 grenades in a line causing high damage to targets!
**'''Cost''': 4 ability points +1 for reuses.
[http://wiki.transformersearthwars.com/character:powerglide Powerglide at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]
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===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Powerglide was a substitute Aerialbot, who sometimes served as Superion's gun. {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}}

==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
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[[File:G1-toy Powerglide.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Kids went nuts for this level of articulation in 1985.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Powerglide''' (Mini-Vehicle, [[1985]])}}</ul>
:*''Takara ID number:'' '''C-62'''
{{toydesigner|[[Masaki Maruyama]] (TakaraTomy)}}

:Released in the second year of [[Hasbro]]'s ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' line, [[Mini-Vehicle]] Powerglide transforms into an [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#A-10 Thunderbolt|A-10 Thunderbolt II]] ground-attack jet (better known by its nickname "Warthog"), deformed to keep proportion with the previous year's "penny-racer" styled Mini Cars. He is notable for being one of the earliest Autobots with an aerial [[alternate mode]]. Due to his transformation, Powerglide has more [[robot mode]] articulation than any other Mini Vehicle. His head can turn, his shoulders have what amounts to universal joints, and his elbows bend.

: There are some very minor variants of this toy, involving the company stamping on the back of his mono-leg: he can have "© Takara 1984 Japan", "© Takara Co. LTD 1984 Japan", or the latter with "© Hasbro 1984" added above the Takara info.

: In the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] line, Powerglide was not part of the initial 1985 "pre-movie" series (despite being in the pre-movie cartoon), but premiered in 1986's post-movie ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)#1986 (Scramble City and 2010)|Transformers 2010]]'' line. Like all of the smaller toys sold by Takara at the time, he was packaged in a small box and came with a collector's card inside, rather than on a bubble card.

: A variant of Powerglide was made by [[El Greco]] and released only in [[Greece]] under his localized name of "Keravnόs", now bearing a lighter and slightly more saturated shade of red. As with other El Greco Mini-Vehicles, his faction sticker is missing and his other sticker is slightly different.

: This mold was also used to make [[Bad Boy#Toys|Bad Boy]].

::*''[http://www.transformerland.com/wiki/toy-info/transformers-g1-mini-vehicles-powerglide/715/ Patent info, price guide, and further reading on Powerglide at Transformerland.com]''
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Autobot/Powerglide/powerglide.htm More information on Powerglide at TFU.info]''
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===''The Transformers Collection''===
[[File:G1Powerglide toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The first Transformers toy that can stand with his arms akimbo. Appropriate!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Minibot Team''' (Multi-pack, [[2004]])}}</ul>
:*''ID number:'' '''12'''
{{toydesigner|[[Pat Lee]] (packaging artist)}}

:In January of 2004, Powerglide was reissued in a ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' six-pack with [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#The Transformers Collection|Bumble]], [[Cosmos (G1)#The Transformers Collection|Adams]], [[Gears (G1)#The Transformers Collection|Gears]], [[Huffer (G1)#The Transformers Collection|Drag]], and [[Warpath (G1)#The Transformers Collection|Warpath]].

: The only notable difference between this release and the original is the addition of a factory-applied Autobot [[insignia]] sticker to the top of his chest, similar to the original box art depiction.

:This entire set was redecoed to make the "[[G1 GoBots]]" set: Powerglide was used to make [[Bad Boy#Collector's Edition|Bad Boy]].
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===''Universe'' (2008)===
[[File:Powerglideuniversetoy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Someone's been eating their Wheaties. ''(Hasbro version pictured)'']]
[[File:Transformers-universe-usa-edition-powerglide.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|''(TakaraTomy version pictured)'']]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Powerglide''' (Ultra Class, [[2008]])}}</ul>
:*''Series'': Classic Series
:*''Accessories:'' Chaingun/[[missile]] launcher, "thermal beam" missile
{{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro), [[Takio Ejima]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Marcelo Matere]] (packaging artist)}}

:Although now upsized to an Ultra Class toy with electronics, ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Powerglide still transforms into a jet resembling an A-10. In order to preserve some semblance of realism in his [[Alternate mode|altmode]], however, he is mostly off-white in color, with red trim. His noggin, at least, is still entirely red, and even has an off-center cannon barrel sculpted into it in homage to his original toy, even though here, his head ''doesn't'' become the nosecone.

:In vehicle mode, pressing the prominent orange button on the jet's fuselage triggers three electronic sound effects (an engine ignition, a swooping noise and a barrage of machine-gun fire that persists for as long as you hold down the button, the same ones are used for Universe [[Silverbolt (G1)#Universe (2008)|Silverbolt]]), accompanied by red LEDs in the turbines and cockpit. During transformation to robot mode, the classic transformation sound effect is triggered as the torso is moved into place; it plays in reverse as he is transformed back to vehicle mode. In robot mode, pressing the orange button triggers the machine-gun sound effect only, with newly-exposed lights illuminating Powerglide's eyes as well as those seen in jet mode.

:In robot mode, Powerglide features a wide range of articulation, and can wield in his hand the thermal missile launcher which mounts under his jet mode nosecone. In what can only be described as one of the most hilarious homages in ''Transformers'' history, Powerglide's chestplate can flip up to [[:File:Ultra powerglide heart.jpg|reveal]] the raised [[:File:Powerglide heart.jpg|image]] of [[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide|a heart]].

:Rather unfortunately, his small feet and top-heaviness make him difficult to pose and stand up.

:His [[instructions]] omit a useful step: pulling the lower legs down to expose the knees and increase his height.

:The Japanese [[TakaraTomy]] version of Powerglide was released in American ''Universe'' packaging as a [[USA Edition]] toy. He is redecoed in mostly red with white detailing, essentially reversing most of the colour layouts, to better match his appearance in the original ''The Transformers'' cartoon. He retains the same [[tampograph]]ed unit-markings as the Hasbro version.

:This mold was also used to make ''Universe'' [[Storm Cloud (G1)#Universe (2008)|Stormcloud]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/TFUPowerglide/powerglide.htm More information on ''Universe'' Powerglide at TFU.info]''

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[[File:Universe2008toy-PowerglideRed.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|More [[show-accuracy|show-accurate]] than the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] version!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Powerglide''' (Ultra Class, [[2009]])}}</ul>
:*''Series'': Generation 1 Series
:*''Accessories:'' Chaingun/missile launcher, "thermal beam" missile
{{toydesigner|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

:The second version of ''Universe'' Powerglide is a [[Walmart]]-[[exclusive]] red redeco similar to TakaraTomy's Japanese release of this sculpt, but with some significant differences in color layout. In an effort to make the toy more [[show-accuracy|accurate to the cartoon]], the arms are cast in light gray plastic, unlike the all-red arms on the Japanese version.

:His tailfins sport tampographed "NA W4Y W3 60" markings, which reads "And away we go!"

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/TFUPowerglide/powerglide.htm More information on Walmart Powerglide at TFU.info]''
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===''Bot Shots''===
[[File:Bot_Shots_Powerglide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Powerglide''' (2012)}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''1'''
:*''Number'': '''B013'''
:**''Fist strength'': '''700'''
:**''Blaster strength'': '''770'''
:**''Sword strength'': '''150'''

:Part of the fourth wave of ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)|Bot Shots]]'' Series 1 single-packs, Powerglide is a teeny little jet with a spring-loaded automatic transformation to robot mode triggered when his nosecone is pressed. He has a "spinner" in his chest that shows his three attack types and power levels. His head is similar to ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Powerglide (DOTM)|Powerglide]].

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)#Bot Shots|Skydive]] and [[Air Raid (G1)#Bot Shots|Air Raid]], and its chest and head pieces were used for ''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' [[Jinbu]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BSPowerglide/powerglide.htm More information on Powerglide at TFU.info]''

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[[File:BotShots 3pack Powerglide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Skyquake / Jetfire / Powerglide''' (Multi-pack, 2012)}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''1'''
:*''Number'': '''BP008'''
:**''Fist strength'': '''740'''
:**''Blaster strength'': '''345'''
:**''Sword strength'': '''525'''

:Part of the second wave of ''Bot Shots'' Series 1 three-packs, this is a redeco of Powerglide in a brighter shade of red, with silver [[Paint operation|paint detail]]s, a brighter blue for the canopy, and a darker blue for the eyes. He comes in a three-pack with [[Skyquake (Prime)#Bot Shots|Skyquake]] and [[Jetfire (G1)/toys#BotShot3Pack|Jetfire]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BS3pkPowerglide/powerglide.htm More information on three-pack Powerglide at TFU.info]''

===''BeCool''===
[[File:BotShots_BeCool_RedJetPowerglide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Red Jet (Powerglide)''' (2012)}}</ul>
:*''ID number'': '''B05'''

:''[[Bot Shots (toyline)#BeCool|BeCool]]'' "Red Jet" is practically identical to the multi-pack version of ''Bot Shots'' Powerglide, the only difference being that his stickers don't depict power levels but instead drawings of his vehicle mode, a travel bag and an airline pilot's hat.
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===''Kre-O''===
[[File:Kre-O-Toy Powerglide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Powerglide''' (Kreon Micro-Changer, 2013)}}</ul>
:*''Collection'': '''2'''
:*''Bag number'': '''***** 73'''
:*''Accessories'': Logo brick, 2 clip-on rifles
{{toydesigner|[[Ed Masiello]] (Hasbro)}}

:As part of the second wave of [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] ''[[Kre-O]]'' [[Micro-Changer]]s, Powerglide is a [[Kreon]] who can be rebuilt into an airplane. He reuses [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Mirage]]'s helmet and [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Starscream]]'s arm guns.

: This Collection was still in circulation at "dollar" stores and drug stores up through 2015. They eventually lost the individual-identifying bag codes, but other changes were hidden inside the bag. The 2015 releases replaced the 2x4 logo stand-brick with a new 3x4 logo plate. The Kreon was also given the slight [[retool]]ing to the arm seen in the 2014 Kreons, making the "cuff" parts more sharp-cornered and better adapted to being used as studs. Some of the add-on pieces may also be slightly off-color, possibly due to a change in factories in mid-production.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Autobot/Kre-OPowerglide/powerglide.htm More information on Kreo Powerglide at TFU.info]''

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<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Kreon Class of '85''' (Kreon figure set, 2015)}}</ul>
:*''Set number'' '''B5152'''
:*''Voted'': Will Do Anything on a Dare
:*''Accessories'': Small pistol

: [[Kreon Class of '85]] Powerglide has his deco much more heavily based on the [[#Generation 1|original Powerglide toy]], plus his helmet is now the pointy jet-nosecone type. Like the rest of the set, he uses the almost-totally-[[retool]]ed 2015 style of Kreon body.

:This box set of thirty Kreons was a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2015 [[exclusive]], with leftovers being sold on [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online after the show.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/SDCCKre-OPowerglide/powerglide.htm More information on SDCC Kreo Powerglide at TFU.info]''

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<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Powerglide''' (Kreon Micro-Changer, 2016)}}</ul>
:*''Collection'': '''2'''
:*''Accessories'': Logo plate, 2 clip-on rifles

:In 2016, Collection 2 was re-released in a whole new production run for Dollar General stores in the US as part of a large collection of re-released ''Kre-O'' sets. But where most of these releases are nigh-identical to the originals, the re-released Micro-Changer blind-bags use the almost-entirely-retooled 2015 Kreon, with slightly-differently-hued plastics than the originals. (It is possible for some of the add-on pieces to be in the older hues.) Powerglide's head has changed from light gray plastic to a metallic silver, and his light gray [[tampograph]]s have similarly gone shiny silver.

:Sadly, this release has no individual-identification code on the bag, requiring you to use the feel-through-the-bag method or just buy blind and hope.
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===''Combiner Wars''===
{{anchor|Generations}}
[[File:CW-toy Powerglide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Autobot Powerglide''' (Legends Class, [[2015]])}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] (Hasbro)}}

:Released in the first wave of ''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Legends Class figures, Powerglide is a [[Triple Changer]]-[[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]], transforming into (what else?) a jet resembling an A-10 Thunderbolt II and some kind of "super gun" with rocket launchers on the sides. The back of his box shows him being held by [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)#Combiner Wars|Deluxe Class Skydive]], but since he's very big to be handled by a Deluxe figure, it should be used by [[Superion (G1)#Combiner Wars|Superion]] (as suggested in his instructions), either of its own or stuck on the top of Silverbolt/Superion's own gun to make a bigger weapon.

:Unfortunately, Powerglide's weight places a great deal of strain on Superion's (and every other combiner's) arms, making him virtually impossible to be held in a firing pose without drawing the arm or entire figure down. Because of the ball-in-socket joints in his hips and knees and the small size of the tabs that hold his legs together in jet and gun modes, his legs are extremely prone to flexing and separating in those modes. Lastly, Powerglide's ankles cannot fully unfold due to mold obstruction, which causes him to look as if he's always bending his knees forward.

:Powerglide includes a collector card featuring art from the "[[By Land, Sea, or Air]]" episode of ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]''.

:This mold was redecoed into ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)|Adventure]]'' [[Powerglide (RID)#Toys|Powerglide]], and retooled into [[Viper (CW)#Toys|Viper]] and ''Adventure'' [[Dogfight (RID)#Toys|Dogfight]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/CWPowerglide/powerglide.htm More information on Combiner Wars Powerglide at TFU.info]''

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[[File:CW-toy PowerglideG2.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb| Now comes in more Grey instead of Red]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Superion''' (Collection Pack, 2016)}}</ul>

: This version of ''Combiner Wars'' Powerglide sports a new, made-up ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''-like deco (basically his two main colors swapped, similar to the ''Generation 2'' version of [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Sideswipe]])... minus the [[Vacuum metallizing|vac-metal chrome]], of course. Just ''imagine'' the silver is chromed. He does have a huge ''Generation 2'' Autobot symbol in wicked-awesome bright orange and yellow though!

: He was only available as part of a ''Generation 2''-themed [[Superion (G1)#CWG2|Superion]] [[giftset]], officially dubbed a "Collection Pack", along with [[Silverbolt (G1)#CWG2|Silverbolt]], [[Air Raid (G1)#CWG2|Air Raid]], [[Fireflight (G1)#CWG2|Firefly]], [[Slingshot (G1)#CWG2|Quickslinger]], and [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)#CWG2|Skydive]]. The set was (at least in theory) a "shared exclusive" between various online retailers (such as [[Hasbro Toy Shop]], [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]], [[BigBadToyStore]], and Entertainment Earth) and the online storefronts of major "big box" retailers (such as [[Toys"R"Us]], [[Walmart]], [[Target]], and [[Kmart]]). It was still available at general retail in Hasbro's Asian markets, though.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2016/Autobot/CWPowerglide/powerglide.htm More information on Combiner Wars G2 Powerglide at TFU.info]''
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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:AOTP Powerglide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Will I have to wait another 3 years to get a new toy of my [[Moonracer (G1)|girlfriend]] again?]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Autobot Powerglide''' (Deluxe Class, [[2026]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Blaster, [[Attack of the Alien Robots|Alien Robot mask]]
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref>[[February 3]], [[2026]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWSj4wlnqM Transformers Age of the Primes Deep Dive | In-Hand Look at the New Wave | February 2026] on YouTube, with [[Evan Brooks]], [[Mark Maher]] and [[Nate Purswell]].</ref>

:Part of the second 2026 wave of ''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes]]'' Deluxe figures, "Autobot Powerglide" is an animation-accurate version of the character, transforming into a proportionally questionable approximation of an A-10 ground-attack jet. Interestingly, the deco features a non-functional painted [[Rubsign]] in vehicle mode. He comes with a blaster inspired by the [[generic Autobot laser pistol]], which he was sometimes seen using in the cartoon. The blaster does not share a mold with any of the previously-released versions of this weapon. He also comes with a wearable alien mask based on the generic mask worn by several Autobots in the cartoon episode "[[Hoist Goes Hollywood (episode)|Hoist Goes Hollywood]]" that slots over the face and can also combine with his blaster.

:In a reference to [[The Girl Who Loved Powerglide|another episode]], Powerglide's robot mode chest can open up to reveal a sculpted and painted heart-shaped collection of lights. In a toy-based reference, his jet mode's sculpted detail includes a non-functioning [[rubsign]].

:When the figure was first revealed at a Hasbro China event, it was displayed with two blaster accessories, but the final figure only features a single blaster.
{{comingsoontoy}}
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==Merchandise==
===''Transformers Gum''===
[[File:Kabaya_DX_Fort_Max_Sky_Base.JPG|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Sky Base + Powerglide''' (2012)
**''Accessories'': [[Master Sword#Merchandise|Master Sword]]

:Part of the first wave of the ''[[Transformers Gum#DX kits|Transformers Gum DX]]'' series, the Sky Base is a snap-together model kit of a battle station with a turret, runway, and some kind of antenna – though in reality, it’s [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]’s right arm and leg pegged together, and the antenna is the [[Master Sword]]. Also included is a small, [[partformer|partsforming]] figure of Powerglide, accurate to his original toy. The kit must be assembled from unpainted blue, gray, red, and white sprues, a spring, and customer-applied stickers to provide all of the non-molded details. It also comes with something that could charitably be called chewing gum.
:The Sky Base has its own action feature: the small box at the far end of the runway is a springloaded launcher, and with a press of a button, Powerglide can be deployed along the runway. This kit can combine with the [[Windcharger (G1)#Transformers Gum|Command Base]] and the [[Fortress Maximus (G1)#GumDX|Launcher Base]] to create a fully transformable [[Fortress Maximus (G1)#Gumbined|Fortress Maximus]], with the Sky Base providing the Master Sword for use as an accessory.
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{{anchor|GIJoeandTF}}
===''G.I. Joe and the Transformers''===
[[File:2016 SDCC Powerglide.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Look! It's that guy! That flies that plane!]]
*'''Scarlet vs Zartan & Autobot Powerglide vs Soundwave''' (Box set, 2016)
**''Accessories:'' two engine covers, two additional battle damaged panels, six PL-MK48 wave-sensor [[cluster bomb]]s, two cluster bomb racks, two LORADS constant scan ion-seeking missiles, two OE-119 electro-optical renegade missiles, four AEA-56 quick-thrust short-range missiles

:Exclusive to the [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] booth at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2016 and the Hasbro Toy Shop website, "Autobot Powerglide" is a redeco of the [[Cobra]] [[Rattler]] vehicle first released in ''G.I. Joe'' back in 1984. As with many ''Joe'' vehicles, he is partially disassembled in box; the two covers on top of the engines and two panels on the fuselage are designed to be removable, revealing mechanical detailing underneath. Two replacement fuselage panels with sculpted battle damage are included, to simulate the plane having been shot to pieces. A total of fourteen missiles and bombs are included, with seven pegging underneath each wing. Also included is a sheet of decals for additional details, and a profile card featuring Powerglide's [[Combiner Wars (franchise)|''Combiner Wars'']] card artwork.

:Powerglide can seat two figures: one in his opening cockpit, and another in the rotating gunner seat midway down his fuselage. As a VTOL aircraft, Powerglide's wings feature a rotational joint at the engine. He also features a spinning Gatling gun in the nose cone, and fold-out landing gear.

:The set also includes a redeco of an equally non-transforming Cobra [[HISS tank]] colored as [[Soundwave (G1)/merchandise#HISS|Soundwave]] and figures of ''G.I. Joe'' characters [[Scarlett#VSZartan|Scarlett]] and [[Zartan#G.I. Joe and the Transformers 2|Zartan]].

::*''[https://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/16/powerglide/ More information on Autobot Powerglide at YoJoe.com]''
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==Notes==
[[File:NowIKnow.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|"We need an adult!" "I am an adult."]]
*In the episode "[[Dinobot Island, Part 1]]" Bumblebee tells Powerglide about the different types of dinosaurs, implying he wasn't on Earth when the Dinobots were constructed or just wasn't paying attention. Note that when and how most of the 1985 characters came to be on Earth was never explained in the cartoon.
*Powerglide has the honor of being the only Generation 1 character whose alternate mode was based on a specific make of a real life vehicle (airborne or ground-based) to have multiple new toys which all retain the same alternate mode (artistic license for the sake of circumventing licensing issues nonwithstanding), even extending to an [[Powerglide (DOTM)|alternate universe counterpart]]! This can also be considered a testament to the {{w|Fairchild Republic A-10 Thunderbolt II|A-10 Thunderbolt II}}, which has been in service since 1976, despite repeated attempts at shutting down the A-10 program as a cost-cutting measure.
*The most progressive alteration to Powerglide's alternate mode thus far is the vehicle from the 2016 ''[[G.I. Joe and the Transformers (toyline)|G.I. Joe and the Transformers]]'' set... which is a redecoed Cobra Rattler, itself a modified A-10 Thunderbolt II.
*Despite this, the original cartoon often interprets his alternate mode as a large civilian plane with a cargo hatch and a cockpit large enough to hold two seats.
*Powerglide makes an appearance in one of the five Transformers [[public service announcement]]s, speaking out against gender discrimination.
*3200 miles per hour is Mach 4.16, MUCH faster than ANY modern combat jet, let alone a real A-10 Thunderbolt II... not that jet-based alt modes are known for realism.
*Michael Chain based Powerglide's voice on the legendary {{w|Jackie Gleason}}, most specifically his performance as Ralph Kramden from ''[[The Honeymooners]]'', the source of his recurring catchphrase. If that doesn't mean anything to you, then the sitcom character was also the inspiration for Fred Flintstone from ''{{w|The Flintstones}}.''
**The characterization would be reused in a more antagonistic fashion years later by [[Dragstrip (WFC)|Dragstrip]] in [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|''Transformers: Robots in Disguise'']], including the catchphrase.
*Powerglide was intended to have a leading role in IDW's ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' until he briefly appeared in "[[Chaos (IDW)|Chaos]]", making a "trapped underground for millions of years" story unworkable for him, and his place in the narrative was given to Tailgate instead.
[[File:Classics2006 Legends Fireflight.JPG|upright=1.66|thumb]]
* ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Fireflight (G1)/toys#Classics|Fireflight]], a [[redeco]] of ''[[Legends Class (2005)|Legends of Cybertron]]'' [[Jetfire (Armada)#LOC|Jetfire]], was originally intended to be Powerglide, but Hasbro apparently could not secure the [[trademark]] at the time.
* The Takara [[Toys"R"Us]] Japan exclusive promotional [[Mini-Con|Micron]] [[Skyglide]], another red A-10, is seemingly an [[homage]] to Powerglide.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Powerglide''' (パワーグライド ''Pawāguraido'')
*''French:'' '''Survolo''' (Canada)
*''Greek:'' '''Keravnόs''' (Κεραυνός, "Thunderbolt")
*''Hungarian:'' '''Motorszárny''' ("Motorwing")
*''Italian:'' '''Jumbo'''
*''Mandarin:'' '''Tòng-lì Huá-Hsiáng''' (Taiwan, 動力滑翔, "Power Glide"), '''Huáxiángjī''' (China, 滑翔机, "Glider")
*''Portuguese:'' '''Planador''' (Portugal comics), '''Planador''' (Brazil comics)
*''Russian:'' '''Vetrorez''' (Ветрорез, "Windcut")

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Powerglide idw concept art.jpg|IDW ''More than Meets the Eye'' robot mode concept art
File:Powerglide idw concept art alt form.jpg|IDW ''More than Meets the Eye'' vehicle mode concept art
File:EW-skin-Powerglide-G2.jpg|''Generation 2''-themed skin on ''Combiner Wars''-based robot mode in ''Earth Wars'' mobile game
File:EW-skin-Powerglide-Shadow.jpg|''Earth Wars'' "Shadow" skin
</gallery>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Age of the Primes Autobots]]
[[Category:Bot Shots Autobots]]
[[Category:Classics Autobots]]
[[Category:Combiner Wars Autobots]]
[[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Earth Wars Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Aerialbots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 cartoon Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toy Autobots]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Transformers]]
[[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]
[[Category:Kreons]]
[[Category:Lost Light crew]]
[[Category:Marvel Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Mini Vehicles]]
[[Category:Regeneration One Autobots]]
[[Category:SDCC exclusives]]
[[Category:Targetmasters]]
[[Category:Transformers Roleplaying Game Autobots]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Autobots]]
[[Category:Wal-Mart exclusives]]

Talk:Mirror

2025-12-06T21:15:32Z

Kadeo: aotp mirror name confirmation

Re: "Twins" - I don't buy it. He's called "Rider" in the instructions, and that's at least as valid a name as "Twins". -[[User:LV|LV]] 02:09, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

== AOTP Mirror English name confirmation ==

Product shots of the back of AOTP Voyager Sideways box officially call the mini-con rider 'Mirror' for the first time in English. Edited the first note to reflect this although I don't know which website would make the best source for product shots. Hasbro pulse seems like the best option initially but they remove listings after a while so it wouldn't be the most future-proof source. [[User:Kadeo|Kadeo]] ([[User talk:Kadeo|talk]]) 16:15, 6 December 2025 (EST)

Mirror

2025-12-06T21:11:31Z

Kadeo: /* Notes */ Altered the first note to make mention of the fact the name 'Mirror' has officially been canonized as the English language name for this minicon as seen on the back of AOTP Armada Sideway's box.

{{factions|minicon|unicron}}
:''Mirror is a Mini-Con [[combiner]] from the [[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family]].''
[[Image:MirrorArmada2.jpg|right|250px|thumb|I never knew how ugly I look from here]]

'''Mirror''' (ミラー ''Mirā'') is the combined form of the Mini-Cons [[Rook (Armada)|Rook]] and [[Crosswise (Armada)|Crosswise]], the partners of the enigmatic [[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]]. Little is known about this tiny [[combiner]]'s personality or abilities, as he is generally seen only as a passenger for the treacherous [[Bulk]]'s vehicle mode, generally separating when his master transforms so that one of his halves can form Sideways's head.

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Armada'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Paul Dobson]] (English)}}
[[File:Conspiracy-Hot Shot vs Sideways.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
When Sideways arrived on [[Earth]], Mirror was riding him wearing a holographic disguise to make him look like a [[human]] clad in biker gear. When Sideways transformed, the rider retracted the disguise and split in half. His [[Rook (Armada)|top half]] became Sideways's head. His [[Crosswise (Armada)|bottom half]] vanished. {{storylink|Gale}} From then on, Mirror usually transformed from Sideways's head to ride him in motorcycle mode, though he once vanished from the scene to allow [[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] to ride Sideways in battle. Later, as Sideways was speaking privately with [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] without either Mini-Con head present, he spoke in two different voices, though it is unclear if one of the voices was Mirror's. Soon after, Sideways revealed his allegiance to the Decepticons by switching heads. {{storylink|Credulous}}

In another battle, Hot Shot caused Sideways to crash, sending Mirror tumbling. Hot Shot taunted the rider for not having a seat belt. {{storylink|Conspiracy}}

After Megatron had been tossed down a crevasse by Optimus, Sideways and his driver helped haul him out. Megatron had been gravely injured by his fall though, forcing the Decepticons to retreat nonetheless. {{storylink|Trust (Armada)|Trust}}

When the last member of the [[Skyboom (Armada)|Skyboom Shield]] trio, [[Downshift (Armada)|Downshift]], became active on his own, Sideways and his rider were forced to give chase to the speedy little ‘bot. Though they were blown out of the race by [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]], the Decepticons did manage to snag the Mini-Con. {{storylink|Reinforcement}} When Megatron challenged to a decisive clash, Sideways worried that the Decepticons would end the Cybertronians' war prematurely while both the Skyboom Shield and the Star Saber were in his hands. Sideways and his rider rushed Red Alert in the middle of the battle in order to feign defeat, so that they could sneak away, and Sideways could sabotage his own team's victory. {{storylink|Decisive Battle}}

Sideways next planned to shake up the Decepticons' power structure. After planting the seeds of doubt on Megatron's competency within Demolishor's head, he and his rider sped off to allow them to take root on their own. They then came to Starscream to similarly goad him into challenging Megatron for leadership of the Decepticons. The plot was ultimately unsuccessful, though it did strengthen morale in the Decepticons' ranks. {{storylink|Rebellion (Armada)|Rebellion}}

Shortly thereafter, Sideways tried to hack the Autobot base computer, only to encounter Rad, Alexis, and Carlos attempting to destroy the equipment to stop him. He transported them to a digital universe, where a digital manifestation of Sideways, complete with rider, greeted them. Sideways taunted the children by first telling them that the Autobots only ever humored them in letting them "help," and then by declaring that they would forever be trapped in cyber-space. The children did escape though, leaving Sideways to beg forgiveness from his true master... [[Unicron]]! {{storylink|Chase (episode)|Chase}}

Henceforth, Sideways settled with helping the other Decepticons on the battlefield in a more conventional manner, despite this only leading to more losses. When [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] joined Megatron's unit, Sideways showed concern over this new addition... and with good reason; Thrust was the first to notice Sideways and his rider sneak off to converse with his unseen master. {{storylink|Tactician}} But Sideways had yet to notice that Thrust suspected he was up to no good, and participated in another of the tactician's ambushes on the Autobots. As soon as Optimus and Jetfire displayed their ability to combine, Sideways and his rider scampered away from the fight. {{storylink|Linkup}}

[[Image:DetectionMirrorTransPhase.jpg|left|thumb|200px| Ia, ia! Cthulhu ftagn!]]

On the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], Sideways initiated a plan intended to turn the Decepticons against each other, then snuck off by himself into an underground cave. Mirror separated from his robot mode, and the two began to make a report to an unseen Unicron. They were interrupted, and Mirror quickly transformed back into Sideways's head. Sideways fled to the surface, where he was confronted by [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]]. They fought, but when Sideways started to lose, he turned into [[Trans-phase mode|a cloud of static]]. This angered [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], who proceeded to chop up the cloud of static with the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]]. The cloud reformed itself into an image of Mirror's head, taunted Megatron, and floated up into the sky. {{storylink|Detection}}

Later, the ghostly head of Mirror briefly reappeared on the Moon. He began a conversation with Thrust while fully manifesting into Sideways. {{storylink|Mars (episode)|Mars}}

[[Image:Sideways dead.jpg|right|thumb|200px]]

Later still, inside Unicron, the [[Mini-Con]]s broke the spell Unicron had over them. This enraged Sideways, and he transformed and attacked the Mini-Cons. Optimus Prime blasted Sideways and Mirror with the [[Requiem Blaster (Armada)|Requiem Blaster]]. The heavily damaged Mirror vowed revenge before the life blinked out of his eyes. {{storylink|Origin}}
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====''Linkage''====
Sideways and Mirror provided the [[Speed Chaser Team]] with [[Ravenus]] and the [[Doomstone]] in order to stop a group of rogue Mini-Cons from unlocking the [[Master Key]]. Mirror personally handed the Doomstone over to [[Top Gear]]. {{storylink|Linkage Part 8}}

===Dreamwave ''Armada'' comic===
While Rook and Crosswise were capable of controlling their combined mode on their own, it was just as common for Sideways to somehow manifest his personality through it and control his Mini-Con partners directly. Using this method, Sideways performed spying and sabotage missions on the [[Mini-Con Moonbase]] without ever having to visit it in person. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye: Transformers: Armada|More Than Meets The Eye}}

===Ask Sideways===
Known liar Sideways claimed he met his Mini-Cons on {{w|Tinder (app)|Tinder}}. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Sideways, 2015/06/28}}
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==Toys==
===''Armada''===
[[File:Arm-toy Mirror.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|So if Rook is good, and Crosswise is evil, then what the heck am I?]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Sideways with Crosswise and Rook''' (Super-Con, 2002)}}</ul>
:*''Takara ID number'': '''MX-01'''
:*''Takara release date'': [[April 24]], 2003
{{toydesigner|[[Aaron Archer]] (Hasbro), [[Takashi Kunihiro]] (Takara)}}

: Available only with ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Sideways (Armada)#Toys|Sideways]], "Mirror" (unnamed in the [[Hasbro]] release, the name comes from the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] version) is the combined form of Sideways's [[Mini-Con]] partners [[Rook (Armada)#Toys|Rook]] and [[Crosswise (Armada)#Toys|Crosswise]]. Rook forms the upper half, while Crosswise forms the lower half. In this mode, he can ride Sideways's motorcycle mode, secured by the tab on his hip, and even (loosely) grip the handlebars.

: The initial run of Hasbro's Sideways toys gave both Mini-Cons red paint accents. A [[variant|running change]] was made very early in the run to give Crosswise purple accents; Sideways was also altered to swap around which faction symbol each Mini-Con revealed in his chest-window when attached to him as a head, with now-purple Crosswise now revealing a Decepticon symbol, as depicted in the [[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|''Armada'' cartoon]].

: All releases of the Takara ''Legends of the Microns'' "Double Face" use the animation-matching Crosswise/purple/Decepticon-head setup.

: There is a persistent mis-assembly across all releases: according to the instructions (and animation model), Crosswise's thighs are on backwards, putting the molded tech detailing that is supposed to be on the front of the combined robot's legs on the back, leaving the detail-less backs of his legs up front. Luckily, it's easy enough to pop off the [[ball joint]]s and swap them around so the detailing shows up on Mirror's front; Crosswise's lower legs are basically identical so swapping them changes nothing.

: This mold-set was also used to make [[Nightcreeper]].

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<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Sideways with Crosswise and Rook''' (Super-Con, 2003)}}</ul>
:*''Release date'': [[November 28]], 2003

: In November of 2003, US [[Toys"R"Us]] stores had special bonus pack Max-Con toys, which came with a single bonus Mini-Con attached to the card over their sticker, for ''less'' than the price as a normal Max-Con, during their [[Black Friday (event)|post-Thanksgiving-day]] sale.

: Sideways could come with one of the [[Destruction Mini-Con Team#Toys|Destruction Mini-Con Team]] members: [[Buzzsaw (Armada)#Toys|Buzzsaw]], [[Drill Bit (Armada)#Toys|Drill Bit]], or [[Dualor (Armada)#Toys|Dualor]].

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<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-multi|'''Bonus Pack''' (2003)}}</ul>

:[[Kmart]] stores offered "Bonus Packs" later in the line's run, which were basically just a normal-release Super-Con and Mini-Con Team pack clamshelled together for ''slightly'' less than the cost of the two individually.

: Sideways has been found packed with the [[Destruction Mini-Con Team#Toys|Destruction Mini-Con Team]] and the [[Street Action Mini-Con Team#Toys|Street Action Mini-Con Team]].
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===''Age of the Primes''===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Sideways''' (Voyager Class, [[2026]])}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Tomoki Tatsumi]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMdjxMNBa7k Footage of the joint Hasbro/McFarlane Toys/Iron Studios panel] at [[CCXP#2025|CCXP 2025]] with [[Nate Purswell]] and [[Emily Bader]], recorded at the "Oficina dos Joes" YouTube channel</ref>
{{toystub}}
{{comingsoontoy}}

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==Notes==
*"Mirror" is the combined form's Japanese name, fitting in with his components' Japanese names—Shadow and Bright. For a while, this rider had no official English-language name; the closest he had being the descriptor "'''Rider'''" from the toy's instructions. Eventually, with the release of Age of the Primes Armada Sideways, the rider was officially dubbed 'Mirror' in English.
*The cartoon version tends to present Mirror as a [[Triple Changer]] of sorts, transforming from the Crosswise head to the Mirror robot mode, and from there to the Rook head. In his first appearance only, he is seen separating to form Sideways's head—don't blink, you'll miss it!—but the extra Mini-Con that should have been left over is nowhere to be found. Neither Rook's nor Crosswise's individual robot mode is ever shown.
*One scene in "[[Credulous]]" briefly shows Sideways not wearing either Mini-Con as a helmet. He speaks in two distinct voices—one is his normal voice and one appears low-intelligence. Immediately after, Crosswise appears from off-screen and becomes his helmet. Any significance this may have between Sideways and his Mini-Cons is unclear. The line was not present in the Japanese version of the episode. In another scene, Sideways in vehicle mode speaks normally even though his rider is absent.
*While not entirely certain, it is implied in the cartoon (more so in the Japanese version) that Mirror is really Sideways, and the actual motorcycle's identity is unknown. This is evident by how Mirror is shown to deliver his lines, although it isn't easy to say for sure since he doesn't have a moving mouth. In Sideways's death scene, however, it is pretty clear that he is speaking in Mirror's body.
*Mirror's combined form (or at least his toy) bears a striking resemblance to the original Kamen Rider (the colors replicating the boots and helmet and the waist piece resembling the transformation belt), which is likely an intentional homage given Sideways' alternate mode is a motorcycle, which was a central aspect early on in the franchise.

===Foreign names===
*''Korean:'' '''Mirror''' (미러 ''Mireo'')

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Age of the Primes characters]]
[[Category:Armada Mini-Cons]]
[[Category:Combined forms]]
[[Category:Unicron-related characters]]

User:Kadeo

2025-11-17T01:40:45Z

Kadeo: created my userpage

I think Coolsville SUCKS!

year #1 of waiting for Studio Series Gamer Edition Warpath

Talk:Ruined FOREVER

2025-11-17T01:33:53Z

Kadeo: /* Generative AI */

BEFORE YOU SUGGEST ANY OTHER ADDITION: 
This page is NOT for anything someone complained about online sometime. This page is for ''exceptionally notable and sizable instances of vast numbers of fans having hugely negative knee-jerk reactions to things that turned out to not be the end of the world at all.'' Think ''very'' hard about what you're about to suggest. It probably doesn't belong on this page.
::-The Management

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==Regarding deletion==
I see no point to having this article. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:11, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:There are 4 instances of Ruined Forever on [[Transformers timeline|this page]] alone. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:16, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

::I see no point to having those, either. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:::JaAm has a page. 'Ruined Forever' is used ironically within the fandom- and this is clearly marked as a fandom article just like [[True fan]] is. Ruined Forever is clearly more prominent than [[Dull surprise]], though possibly not as widely as [[Neon]]. (Which now that I look at it need its opening quote reformatted...) My entire impetus for creating it was that Sntint made an ironic Ruined Forever joke on a talk page and I was like- "huh, why dont' we have a page for that?" (Well, also I wanted to wash the bad tast of [[Don Murphy|Don Murray]] out of my brain.)
:::Ruined Forever appears to rest comfortably within the range of existing articles on the Wiki, but I am content to allow others to decide. If a majority think it's not relevant to Transformers the article can be deleted, as always. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:37, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I say it's as relevant as Playskool, neon, and FIRRIB. {{unsigned|Terrocon Blot}}
:::::And Derik on the rebound to make me feel dumber. It's not enough that I misspelled my own screenname, he's also got to sign my posts for me. Damn that Derik. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWN. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 07:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I vote for keeping the page. As already stated, a number of other pages already exist to explain similar fandom colloquialisms. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 13:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:I don't see this article as explaining anything. It seems to exist purely to ridicule fandom behavior that we don't like, and thus I see no point to keeping it. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it needs to stay too. Where else would terms like ''Ruined FOREVER'', [[Furmanism]], and Chewed caramels be documented for all time, if not here?--[[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 14:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Do these fandom terms need to be ones that are famous/infamous, known or used widely? Then how about TFW2005's 'HE TELL ME' (in reference to that guy who claimed Peter Cullen was cast as RID Prime)? TFW2005 is probably the most prominent of the Transformers fan sites, as well as the one that Hasbro seems to unofficially prefer. I personally never even heard of 'dull surprise' until I read it on this wiki. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::Nor I. But I don't think we're just documenting memes-- each of these articles, Truk !Munky, Chewed caramels even JaAm are 'about' a belief/response/tendency in fandom- not just the phrase used to illustrate it. Dull Surprise is a belief the masturbatory praise heaped on Superstar Funana was undeserved, JaAm is about the backlash against Dreamwave's style-over-sanity lack of visual storytelling, Truk not Monkey encompasses both knee-jerk hatred of BW and frustration about knee-jerks, and Chewed caramels ''seems'' to be about a desire that all TF toylines subscribe to some broad interpretation of G1's design aesthetic. I doubt anyone put ''conscious thought'' into this, but the fandom-meme articles people found worthy of creating aren't ''just'' about the phrase- they're about phrases that expresses something larger about how fans relate to Transformers.
::(I'm not familiar with 'HE TELL ME' and where it may fall with this.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Personally, I think dull surprise is way too limited in use (basically just #wiigii! as far as I know) to really belong here, but Derik does sort of have a point about the article being about a little more than that. I also don't know "HE TELL ME" but it sounds like something worth considering -- claims of unnamed inside sources and all that. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Oops, it was actually Peter Cullen as Armada Prime. The posts (being from 2002), no longer exists, but fortunately blitz_64 managed to save the posts for posterity [http://www.geocities.com/blitz_64/HETELLME.html The Saga of HE TELL ME and GoOP].

::::Actually, Steve-o, I'd say "Secret Inside Sources" would be a more appropriate meme/article to describe that last one. Having never heard of "HE TELL ME", and seeing that few others apparently have either, I'm not sure it's as much a meme as "Secret Inside Sources" is.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 13:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Around the same period, I recall some other idiot who claimed to be a Hasbro photographer and described crazy things like the Mini-Cons becoming body armour and Prime's minicon transforming into his Matrix. These claims, while totally false, were important because they apparently spurred Aaron to emerge as ORSON and totally destroy that other dude, IIRC. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::I remember that quite vividly indeed. The guy who claimed to be the photographer actually revealed himself over [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=26415&st=20&p=551756&#entry551756 at the Allspark this year], actually. Oh yeah, and I think the animu thing was 4Chan leakage [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=animu].--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
I say we keep it. [[User:Compy-Rex|Compy-Rex]] 18:55, 16 March 2008 (UTC)Compy-Rex
:If this page is deleted I will cry. [[User:(Undecided)|(Undecided)]] 05:14, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

==Usage==
Has "ruined forever" ever been used seriously by fans? While it describes a real and annoying sentiment, I'm not sure I like basing an article on a phrase that was sarcastic in the first place. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Seconded. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 18:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:I'm sure something very similar, at least, has been used. But regardless, you say that it describes a real sentiment, so, what's the problem? Can you recommend a better title for the article? Or are you saying the article shouldn't exist at all? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::Well, my vote is for not existing at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
::: I (and a number of others) used to think "Rapeing my childood" was only used for sarcastic reasons. Then I read the thread on the promo poster for Transformers Animated, which had a number or people using the seriously. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:Has Trukk not Munky ever been used in a non Ironic/Sarcastic way? It's still a catchphrase used by the fandom, as is this. Both rate articles under the fandom category, IMo.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

:The '''scream your head off in outraged panic''' / '''call for mass-firings or send death threats over something that has/will ruin/ed TF''' ''behavior'' of this article certainly was in evidence during Beast Machines- and I think the "sky is falling" aspect is amply evidenced by the sheer ''number'' of times fans have declared TF ruined forever. (And, clearly, been wrong every time, or every time but 1 depending on your belief system.)
:If you have some other title you'd prefer for this article like 'Clicken-Little Syndrome' by all means propose it and see what people think, but the article speaks to a genuine (and highly mockable) aspect of fandom psychology.
:And frankly, while the ''behavior'' itself is worthy of ridicule, the ''reason'' for it- an exaggerated concern for the health and future of the brand- is actually kinda ''endearing'' and speaks well of fans. At least their ''hearts'' are in the right place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

==Paul Dini==

I think accusing the fandom of saying the art style of Paul Dini ''the writer'' being used for Animated will "RUIN TRANSFORMERS FOREVER" is making the article simply too mean-spirited. I've never seen any individual display the idiocy we're accusing the fandom of with that line. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 05:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

I have.
Scary, scary stuff.

Also, the last line of the entry seems to cut a little into the humor by overexplaining. Replace it with a "general hasbro idiocy" linking to "transformers" or somesuch?

==Marked for deletion.==

This is getting out of hand.

This page has become the epicenter of an edit war that has gone on for nearly a week now. As of the time of this writing, only six other pages link to this article. While I fully support the light tone of Teletraan I, and I understand that some explanation of aspects of the fandom complete the Wiki, I believe this particular article and debate at this point only detracts from the issue.

I DO agree that it was biased in the form in which it existed before our anonymous editor "friend" decided to change it, but I do not think that matters any longer. This article does not add anything inherently positive to the wiki, indeed, it does not chronicle anything positive ''or'' negative about Transformers itself at all. Its relation to Transformers is tangential at best.

By deleting this, we would not lose anything except the beginnings of what appear to be the modern equivalent of a Usenet flamewar. Deleting it, I believe, can only benefit Teletraan I. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 12:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

:I whole-heartedly agree. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::I agree. I didn't feel this article was necessary, and I still don't. I agree that the fandom is full of idiots who never bothered to grow up after 1986, but our mockery of them doesn't belong in the wiki. Not to say that Mister "integrity of the characters" is right, though. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 12:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm putting in a vote for keeping it. It's a fun article to read, and it speaks a lot of truth in it's wonderfully snarky way.--[[User:Gouki|Gouki]] 12:32, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Snarkyness can be fun but this article is just pushing it, IMO. [[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::I think it should stay, it's funny. Also, if you delete it then the terrorists win.
::::::I would keep it. I think it describes a real sentiment, that needs to be pointed out as overblown. [[User:JW|JW]] 13:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
The edit war was only between registered users and a single unregistered dude. I've fixed things, at least for the moment, by protecting the page from unregistered editors. If you're gonna get in a pissy editing war, we'd damn well better know who you are. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:Our anonymous friend is from the Netherlands, if anybody cares. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 14:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

This "Ruined FOREVER" article is stupid and don't make any sense. Its just shit

: [[Seafood Louis]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:00, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if the opinion of an anon means anything, but I think this article is freaking hilarious. I was talking with a friend about TF:Animated and he said that the girl with the transforming bike 'ruined it permanently' so I linked him this article. He laughed and said, 'ok, well maybe I'm over-reacting.'

I think the article is funny and provides valuable perspective. {{unsigned|66.167.253.76}}
: Well said, citizen. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:Well, you've cancelled out the other anon from earlier, at any rate. And yeah, I agree with your assessment of it.--[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 22:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
:Same --[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]]

I happen to think this article is incredibly useful in charting the tendency for all fans everywhere (but especially TF fans) to react in comical and hyperbolic ways. I think the breadth of what people determine can/has ruined TF forever automatically makes the article an amusing and insightful look for the novice fan into the fandom's reactionary past.

Indeed, I actually have shown this article to people just coming back (or getting into) TF. It's inspired about as many laughs as it has genuine curiosity as to what the fandom and franchise are like as entities. Isn't that the idea of this wiki? I would think reference materials as to the history of the fandom, good and bad, are always a boon.

(and that aside, I just think it's really, really funny)

.... Aaaaaaand I had to go and screw up. Bah. That's me above. --[[User:Cmdr Crayfish|Cmdr Crayfish]] 10:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

==Where do we draw the line?==
How do we stop this from becoming just a giant list of everything that anyone has ever expressed any dislike for ever? Why, for instance, is ''The Beast Within'' in there? Or Gonzo (which I thought was generally accepted as at least ''better'' than We've, even if not as good at Mainframe)? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:I've kinda been watching this list grow with some mild irritation- it went from about 1 item for every 2 years to ''twice'' that in fairly short order, and that bothers me.
:I've sorta resolved to edit the list down this October, pruning it (so to speak) with some opportunity for people to say what should stay and what should go.
:The Beast Within has to stay though- at the ''very'' least it ruined the Dinobots forever- now whenever George Rodd brings up combiner Dinobots we have to grudgingly admit they're canon. Also, it was the reason for the article's creation in the first place. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
::Why wait? If we want this to be a list of developments that prompted widespread fury that lingered for years, we can shorten it to "Actionmasters, BW, BM, Armada, Hallit, and Bay," and perhaps a few others, right now. Then a "Trivia" note saying that The Beast Within really DID ruin Transformers, or at least Dinobots, forever. Just a thought... but yeah, having every single series in there dilutes the point. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:12, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Problem is, how do you decide what deserves to be listed as ruining TF forever, if none of it really did in the first place. I've seen just about everything listed there used as an example of why ____ TF series/movie/toyline will fail--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, Thy, I'd append your list with a general "*-masters" thing, as a lot of armchair CEOs claim that the entire -master trend killed the line, not the fact that it had, you know, run its course. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 14:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
:::I'll just basically agree with Thy and Hoop that whatever's listed here should have a certain "endurance" as a scapegoat. The turnaround of opinion on Animated was what, two weeks? "* Masters" certainly counts, as should Pretenders. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

:::What, a simple a Google newsgroup search for [http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22killed+transformers%22&start=10&sa=N&scoring=d&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&|"killed transformers"] ain't enough? /:] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 05:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

:I doubt I'd get objections if I added it, but I'd like to throw it by the community: Should we readd [[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 04:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

::I really think Animated should stay in there, if only because it's '''such a dramatic departure.''' Turn around was fast, but the initial reaction was strong. I mean, for the first time in fifteen years of being a fan, I actually found myself muttering "My god... they've finally done it. It's ruined..." --[[User:70.190.251.10|70.190.251.10]] 05:07, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

beast wars didnt reuin tf beast machines sorta did but it was still quite good ,if u ignore some minor things - Unsigned post by [[User:80.6.180.141|80.6.180.141]]
:You're missing the point of the article, then. The point is that every time something new comes along, the fandom screams about how it will ruin Transformers forever, when in reality it's usually the opposite. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 22:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

==Last Deletion Locked in?==
Spotted a couple of points on the list removed by [[Special:Contributions/Teletraan|someone who seems to like deleting stuff just because]], but when I tried to restore the page, it was already locked. Were his edits accepted, then?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:There are two facets to this. First, without occasional pruning, the list in this article tends to grow, and grow, and grow. Every now and then, someone has to come along and cut it back. Since this is a wiki, the question of what gets cut is made by the person willing to do the cutting.
:The second facet is that the items cut were in fact less core to the "ruined forever" concept. "Runined forever" is a cry that springs up whenever ''something new is added to the Transformers brand'' by HasTak, and it happens every single time. Thus, the fans ''can't'' ruin TF forver, because they don't add new canon. And, while HasTak ''can'' ruin TF forever, it's because they're the only ones who can do so. I.e., one of the cut items was in error, and one was redundant. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:54, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Fair enough, I suppose. It was a combination of both the deletions and the person who committed them that made me question their validity.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 17:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yah, user Teletraan is not exactly a primo contributor. Still, this particular edit seems (at minimum) defensible. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

==Masters of the Universe link==
I've never, ever been interested in MOTU, so I have no idea what was the cause of the revamp line's failure, but given the extreme slant of the article, I can only assume it failed because it concentrated on collectors rather than kids. If so, why does it link to a Wikipedia article that cites Mattel's ''"excessive focus on attempting to mass-market the line to a new generation of children rather than focusing on a safer collector-based approach"'' as the reason for the line's failure? Am I missing something or does that sound like the line tanked because it focused on selling toys to kids rather than what this article is railing against? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 11:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
: Guess who wrote the Wikipedia article. (Hint: It wasn't kids.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

:: The fact is the line failed, no one can say *exactly* why. There are reasons for both oppinions.

::'''Fact:''' The line DID court fans rather than kids in many ways. It didn't reinvent the boat but took the exact looks, exact characters, and in some cases even exact stories the fans clamored for and did them again, only better, prettier, smarter, and more "realisticly". In that respect it was pretty much EXACTLY what older fans of '80s properties clamor for, and said fans generally loved it. But for whatever reason it never caught on with '''actual kids''' in the way the simple, campy, primitive, bowlegged original did. So some see that and blame the line's failure on the older fan mentality.

::'''Also Fact:''' Mattel tried to sell the toyline the way they had Batman. I.E. A million goofy variations on He-man and Skelator (and one or two others) and everyone else was almost impossible to find or didn't get a figure at all. This was very much NOT what collectors wanted. Many blame it for the line's failure at retail, arguing that part of what made the original a hit where the huge variety of strange and different warriors and monsters that Mattel had left out this time in favor of flooding the shelves with He-man repaints and ill-concieved alterations (The entire wave of "samori repaints on stilts" is often pointed to, but are only one of many examples.) Some see this and blame an ill-concieved inapropriate retail stratagy aimed at marketing to kids having crippled the line's retail appeal.

::Personally I think there's some truth to BOTH. For whatever reason (timing, approach, luck,) the older fan oriented cartoon never clicked with the kiddies, '''AND''' the Batman-style retail stratagy was a bad choice for a MOTU type toyline. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:17, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

:::Yes, that was the feeling I got, that is there is no clear cut side to 'blame', and in this case, I think we should ditch the Masters of the Universe link, given the information there contradicts the slant of this article, and in any case it's not a clear cut case of 'it's all the collectors fault'. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Hrm, there's some legitimate thought there... but it ruins the G.I. Joe comparison. (Why catering to adult collectors and abandoning attempts at reinvention is a losing strategy in the long run necause ther old dudes die off and uyou're not bringing new fans in.)
::::For what it's worth, I meant from design and marketing- I agree that the actual toyline was schitzophrenic- alternating between a slavish adherence to the original designs and case assortments aimed at kida who weren't watching the cartoon.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Here's an idea - how about one of you guys (who actually know about MOTU) edit the wikipedia article so it's more balanced, so we don't end up looking like idiots in this article? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I think it's worth noting that even in today's environment, the military has ''some'' pull to kids. Not so much the gay, gay fur-bikini barbarians. Sword-and-sorcery has some appeal nowadays, but mostly when it's very Japanesey kids-anime-style. (One could also note that the "big" Joe revival frankly isn't very big. It's pretty damn low-key, really, where He-Man was some major-league THIS WILL BE BIG!!! Lower expectations = greater chance of meeting and exceeding them.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, I'd also imagine that production costs on the 25th anniversary Joe figs are pretty darn reasonable on Hasbro's bookkeeping. They've done similar lines for Star Wars for decades, so they know what they're doing.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
::I'm really annoyed that the GI Joe 25th line isn't available here, because Hasbro AU's last attempt to revive GI Joe in Australia totally tanked. If you can believe it, Toys R Us stores here languished under piles of unsold Cobra Trooper 6-packs, which, as I've read in forums, collectors were fighting over. They're not on pegs anymore, so I guess they've been shredded or incinerated by now.--[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:28, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

So have we decided on this link yet? The Wikipedia link still contradicts the snarky joke link of this article. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:It's always going to, because there will always, ''always'' be enough people who are going to make sure that the bullshit boogeyman "CASE RATIOS!! CASE RATIOS!!! KIDS WANTED ALL THOSE OBSCURE ONE-EPISODE GUYS AND USELESS MINOR VILLANS!!!!!" (while patently ignoring the fact that if you can't sell your ''two primary characters in the line'', maybe there's something wrong with your franchise, not case ratios... it'd be like if a Batman line couldn't sell toys of Batman) is squarely blamed for MOTU's failure. Frankly, I'd say just add a note to OUR article saying "ignore the bullshit about case ratios. Kids just didn't want a line about a boring gay man in a fur bikini." --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

::Ignoring your general disdain for He-man here, and even the whole case ratio issue, the fact remains that saying (as our snark does) that the newer He-man line "catered exclusively to older collectors" and that this caused its failure is both unprovable, AND very widely disputed. I'd say we should remove the link on those issues alone. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 15:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC) (-'''Edit:''' On a side-note, given the apparent success of the 25th ann. line and the coming movie, the critical G.I.Joe link in there may soon be meaninglessly out of date as well...)

:::And this is my point - we'll start looking like idiots who can't even get our facts or jokes straight if we insist on keeping these links. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I see Zac's point- but I think he's reacting to something that's not in the article. We're holding the MOTU reboot as an example of a line that abandoned all attempt at reinvention. Since there ''was'' not reinvention in the reboot line, at all, this should not be up for dispute.
:::We do not say that this is ''why'' the line failed. It probably ''was'', but we don't say that. We merely hold it up as an apporach that's probably unhealthy for Transformers to follow.
:::So to be really blunt-- I don't care what whiny fanboys may have edited Wikipedia to say in support of their view that the line was perfect and viable the way it was. '''A)''' That's masturbatory. '''B)''' It's not what this article is talking about, so it's simply not relevant. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:00, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::But it says 'cater exclusively to the old-school collectors', which the line evidently did not do. In which case, regardless of if we are holding up as an approach that TF should not follow, it's not a good example in the context of the very joke-link, especially if it sends the reader to an article that disputes the joke. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::In this context, that 'catering' refers to design, not case assortments. We're discussing ''reinvention''. One does not 'reinvent' case assortments! And in terms of designs, characters etc... MOTU ''did'' cater. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:31, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::More to the point- we're discussing changign the content on ''this'' page because highly dubious artument on Wikipedia disagrees with something ''we're not even saying here''.
:::::If Wikipedia had a bullshit argument we were actually refuting I might kinda understand this. But we're not! We are actually arguing about removing a link to an article because fanboys have jizzed across it in ways that contradict things our article ''doesn't'' say, but which 'might run through that same fanboy's mind as they read our article.'
:::::While '''I''' clearly feel the fanboy argument is specious-at-best '''it doesn't matter'''. We say it catered to collectors. That's it! '''It's just an example of one extreme a toyline can take.''' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

== Why? ==

Why is The [[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]] series , [[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]] series, the [[The Transformers: The Movie|Movie]], and [[Exclusive]]s listed here?[[User:Autobot Soundwave|Autobot Soundwave]] 19:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:Because fans reacted [[Trukk not munky|very]] [[Pokeformers|negatively]] to a lot of these things, which went on to become major successes. It's satire. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 19:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
:Because they ruined Transformers forever, of course.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 19:16, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

== Adding to the list ==

The Cliff Notes version: there's very little reason to.

The full version: Contrary to what [http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_FOREVER many people think], this is not a list of [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER everything Transformers ever]. It is not even a list of everything Transformers that fans have ever complained about. It is a list of the relative handful of times that something ground-shaking and new has come along, something totally different from what's gone before, something that's not exactly like 1984, that causes people to complain that Transformers has irrevocably jumped the shark and begun sinking into an irreversible oblivion. All this doomsaying is then typically followed by the franchise surging back to life as the awful horrible new thing turns out to be a smashing success. Alternately, the horrible new thing quietly fades away while the franchise chugs along to the next new thing.

Thing is, anybody who's stuck with Transformers to this point is used to these reinventions. Perspective has grown long enough that plenty of fans now understand that anything they don't like will be gone in a year or two. Maybe I'm biased 'cause I only read the Allspark boards and they're fairly intelligent, but cries of RUINED FOREVER are increasingly rare these days.

I don't see why Drift is on the list. Plenty of people think he sucks, but nobody's claiming he's going to bring down the whole franchise. ''All Hail Megatron'' would be a better candidate, because people (including myself!) ''are'' claiming that IDW's whole storyline has been permanently destroyed by it. (You could also make a case for ''Energon'' ("bad anime"), ''Prime Directive'' ("MATURE ADULT XXX" or "Buckets of Blood" or "Pat Lee"), and/or Dreamwave ("The Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man", "Superstars", "Bankruptcy").

I don't see why stolen prototypes are on the list. Yeah, some of us make a fuss over them. Y'know why? Because HASBRO THEMSELVES HAS SAID THEY ARE A THREAT TO THEIR BUSINESS. There's no ridiculously overblown grasping-at-straws fandom absurdity to mock here.

And I'd need to see a LOT of linked posts before I'd accept ROTF on the list. I can't fathom someone having complaints about ROTF that didn't also apply to the first movie. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 12:10, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

:There are new complaints about ROTF - about [[Mudflap (ROTF)|these]] [[Skids (ROTF)|two]].--[[Special:Contributions/172.162.17.159|172.162.17.159]] 08:34, 10 August 2009 (EDT)
::I agree with Repowers 100%. If anything, I think the list could use some trimming. Are people complaining about the Twins? Sure! Is ANYONE saying that Transformers, as a franchise, is over/tainted? Umm ... not that I've heard. Certainly no substantial block of the fandom.
::And stolen prototypes, while I DO think people make a somewhat biggish deal about them, don't really belong on the list either. A: as Repowers points out, Hasbro itself has legitimized the concern. B: people getting annoyed about something is NOT the same as saying that the Transformers brand is beyond recovery. Hell, even AHM seems like a stretch. I think that most of the fandom has gained enough hindsight to know that, at worst, AHM represents a change in direction for *IDW'S* story, but certainly not the end of Transformers as we know it. Hell, ROTF and Animated were contemporary, and both were tremendous successes.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 09:48, 10 August 2009 (EDT)

I'm not sure we we can't have Energon on this list, seeing all the complaints on this very wiki, but, eh.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 08:00, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:I disagree. I've read on here that people LIKED it at first, but eventually lost faith/the will to live after watching it. The list chronicles the events which work the OTHER way around. [[User:Metal Gear NOIZE|Metal Gear NOIZE]] 09:07, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
::Yeah, I'd say the list has nothing to do with how good something is, but more with complaints from the fandom and especially even before the thing in question has been released. Having said that, does RiD really warrant a place on the list? Was there really that much of a commotion about it? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 10:10, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:::I'm surprised "G1 Bayformers", aka Don Figueroa's new drawing style isn't on this list, given that almost every single opinion on it I found was a flame.....--[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:30, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
::::I loath it to the core of my petty, petty being... but i don't see it as something that will kill or taint the franchise. Kiss-Player is still squicking people ''years'' later... the fact the Japanese owners basically licensed TF loli guro porn is something that genuinely shocks people and lessens their opinion of TF as a whole-- especially since it's not one of those 'worse than it sounds' things, the closer you look, the more disturbing it actually gets. An unpleasant art style inflicted on the comparatively small comic-book audience... just isn't in the same ballpark.
::::I think it's harmed ''IDW'''s Transformers brand equity... people seem a lot more skeptical and a lot more negative of editorially-generated jerking around of the TF brand, because they've now repeatedly dumped directions they committed to in order to chase imaginary gains that never materialized-- apparently heedless of the negative baggage piled on the story in the process. (One more major reset in pursuit of some sort of magical deckchair configuration the editors are convinced is more important than telling good stories... and I might as well be reading DC!) But not the brand overall. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 05:46, 13 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Not to get all chat roomy here, but... what he said. Oh dear lord, WHAT HE SAID. (Derik, have you posted that sentiment to IDW's boards?) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:49, 13 October 2009 (EDT)

==How about that B.O.T episode==

To many fans, it's considered to be the worst G1 episode ever, so I think it should be placed here. [[User:Dinoman96|Dinoman96]] 17:23, 23 November 2009 (EST)
:Yea, but this isn't a list of what people just call "bad" - it's a list of the things that threw the fandom into a colossal uproar and actually caused people to say Transformers was ruined forever, more for the fact that they were drastically or outlandishly new and different than for their actually being of poor quality. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:46, 23 November 2009 (EST)

==Drift==
Shouldn't we add [[Drift (G1)| this Mary Sue]] to Runied FOREVER? {{unsigned|24.62.9.241}}
:No. He hasn't ruined anything forever. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 23:55, 17 August 2010 (EDT)
:Maybe you should read the page above before you add to it. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:02, 18 August 2010 (EDT)

==A quick question (not about adding additional items)...==

Anyone else think that a funnier name for ''Prime'' would be Bayformers Teen Titans? I ask because we've got Bayformers and Teen Titans on the list, and Bayformers Animated kind of throws off the flow. [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 20:03, 16 December 2010 (EST)
:To me at least, "Bayformers Animated" flows much better than "Bayformers Teen Titans". --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 20:04, 16 December 2010 (EST)
::A fair point. I meant it more in the manner of fitting with what else was in the article. Not a big deal either way, I suppose. [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 20:12, 16 December 2010 (EST)

== Parodies of this page in other media ==

Just in case you didn't noticed it, this page has been parodied several times and in different media:

* http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DarthWiki/RuinedFOREVER (As noted, this wiki is the trope namer for "Ruined FOREVER")
* http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1224448/ruined-forever.aspx
* http://www.helloweenboard.com/topic/4063-seven-sinner-discussion-thread/page__view__findpost__p__336072
* http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47999&page=1
* http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wookieepedia:Ruined_FOREVER
* http://www.librarium-online.com/forums/warmachine/163237-blight-spreading-nites-cryx-blog.html#post1416664
* http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Ruined_FOREVER
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:I love how the Wookiepedia people completely missed the point. [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 12:40, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
::...their version seems basically the same sarcastic treatment as ours. Are you reading a different page? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:43, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
:::They seemed a lot more concerned with insignificant detail than this wiki is. However, in retrospect, "completely missed the point" was a bit strong on my part. Maybe the Star Wars fandom is more temperamental than we are? [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 12:49, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
::::"''MAYBE''", he says! :D - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:54, 18 May 2011 (EDT)
: Not really parodies, more just... versions. [[User:Esser-Z|Esser-Z]] 11:40, 29 December 2011 (EST)
::Adaptations. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:54, 29 December 2011 (EST)

== Literal for once ==

Pat Lee. --[[Special:Contributions/96.225.181.135|96.225.181.135]] 21:31, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
: Transformers survived him, so not really literally, no. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:00, 16 April 2012 (EDT)
:: The franchise as a whole, but not Dreamwave. Or his reputation. --[[Special:Contributions/96.225.181.135|96.225.181.135]] 21:17, 17 April 2012 (EDT)
::: Not the point of the page. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 21:20, 17 April 2012 (EDT)

== Autobots who didn't turn into cars ==

[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/615489-what-characters-killed-g1.html Transformers was ruined FOREVER in 1985!] Seriously.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 14:39, 17 June 2012 (EDT)
:TFW2005 ruined Transformers forever.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 15:07, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

== Dark of the Moon ==
*The first and second movies by Michael bay are on the list, but why not the third. Lots of people complained about the third one. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 07:49, 11 August 2012 (EDT)
::Getting on this page takes more than simple complaints. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:16, 11 August 2012 (EDT)

== Rescue Bots ==
I propose adding rescue bots to this list, only listed as rescue heroes, or Eureka. [[User:Bookwormdalek|Bookwormdalek]] 20:26, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
:...but it's universally beloved. Surely no Transformers fan could hate ''fun''?! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:51, 12 December 2012 (EST)
::While I agree that in moderation fun is enjoyable, its creation did cause the standard "Ruined FOREVER" response that would deem it necessary to add to the page in the best interests of keeping an accurate database. [[User:Bookwormdalek|Bookwormdalek]] 18:29, 30 June 2013 (EDT)
:::...Which died down about a week later, with only the few stubborn mules of the fandom remaining intolerant of it. This list contains things that have had lasting backlash that ran deep. Rescue Bots never got such deep-filled hatred as the things covered by this list. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:09, 1 July 2013 (EDT)

== Windblade ==
Given the kerfuffle a certain segment of the fanbase made over Windblade, ahould she and/or her series be added to this list? And if so, as what? [[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] ([[User talk:Nemesis Primal|talk]]) 22:10, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
:This is just me, but I'd say we wait a bit more and see how her series and its portrayal of her character are received first. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 22:22, 20 April 2014 (EDT)
::You know this fandom better than I do... I'm not always active in forums or anything... so I'll defer to your judgement. But from what I heard, the drama got really stupid at some points. [[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] ([[User talk:Nemesis Primal|talk]]) 21:45, 21 April 2014 (EDT)
:::The loudmouths are a minority at this point, people are being really vocal about how much they're enjoying the book. People are being mixed about whether they like the writing or the art more, but in general I'm seeing a favorable response to the art and an appreciation for its snappy writing. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 22:06, 21 April 2014 (EDT)
::::IMO the drama was less to do with Windblade and more about the "brief conflict" between Scott and Furman referenced on ''Spotlight: Arcee'''s page - the worst criticism of Windblade I've seen is that she's kinda dull so far (and that was from me). I remember Drift raising far more ire when he was introduced and Drift isn't listed here. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 02:58, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
:::::That's because IDW shilled Drift as "super cool" and that he'd be "their Wolverine". Windblade, on the other hand, wasn't shilled as a super cool "Wolverine", which is probably why she's been received better than Drift was.[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] ([[User talk:Spin-Out|talk]]) 21:11, 1 May 2014 (EDT)

== Masterpiece Star Saber's English-language bio for the Australian release ==

Wow, the nerdrage over a little bonus addition for a limited run official import of a Japanese toy that references established IDW fiction is ''amazing''. If that bio doesn't ruin Transformers FOREVER, nothing can.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 18:11, 4 February 2015 (EST)
:As always, my instinct in a situation like this is to wait for at least 3-4 months to see if there is widespread and sustained griping. Many people want to find a way to include, well, virtually everything on this page, and most TF franchises just don't get that level of sustained vitriol to warrant inclusion.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 23:20, 4 February 2015 (EST)
::I don't think we even need to be that conservative. Nobody is going to claim that one regional release of one toy has ''ruined the entire Transformers franchise''. There's no new innovation or franchise re-invention going on here. It's just one bio on one toy and some people raging for a day or two.
::As I've said before, RUINED FOREVER is not just "BUHR ME FAN HATE THING". It's "This new and different thing means that Transformers cannot and will not ever be good again" (add "because new things are bad" as needed), followed by Transformers surviving, thriving, and continuing to be good. In this age of live action movies, there's not much left that can shake the franchise to its core like that. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] ([[User talk:Repowers|talk]]) 00:04, 5 February 2015 (EST)

== DOTM Soundwave and Wheeljack cancelled in USA ==

Is that ruined forever? Many fans compalined about them cancelled and how they got too many Bumblebees.[[User:Pat|Pat]] ([[User talk:Pat|talk]]) 06:43, 10 February 2015 (EST)
:No, that is not "ruined forever". Ruined Forever is large scale complaining about things that have supposedly irredeemably damaged the brand. And the complaining has to continue for a long period of time. Fans were upset about this, but it didn't drag on for years and years. Or even months and months. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 06:52, 10 February 2015 (EST)

== Autobot Megatron ==

Alot of fans were really upset with Megatron joining the autobots...That can be considered as a `RUINED FOREVER".
[[User:Hyruk|Hyruk]] ([[User talk:Hyruk|talk]]) 16:21, 10 February 2015 (EST)
:This doesn't sound like something that happened. --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] ([[User talk:Nu-Priest|talk]]) 18:13, 10 February 2015 (EST)
::Megatron never joined the Autobots ([[Megatron (SG)|though there is a mirrorverse Megatron of course]]) but we don't talk about fanfics, only official fiction.[[User:Pat|Pat]] ([[User talk:Pat|talk]]) 08:34, 12 February 2015 (EST)
:::Go read the IDW comics, it happened. Or wait for [[Megatron (G1)/toys#Leader|this toy]]. But again, this is nowhere near the level of complaining that is necessary for Ruined Forever. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 08:58, 12 February 2015 (EST)
::::But what's wrong if Megatron is an Autobot? It's supposed to be nice because that means there are no Decepticons and no war.[[User:Pat|Pat]] ([[User talk:Pat|talk]]) 03:45, 13 February 2015 (EST)
:::::Which would pretty much END the fiction. No conflict, no drama, no story.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:02, 13 February 2015 (EST)

In the allinged continuity, he becomes an Autobot in the Beast Hunters Predicons Rising movie. [[User:Markatron|Markatron]] ([[User talk:Markatron|talk]]) 23:09, 1 August 2015 (EDT)

=="Radical Feminist SJWs"==

Can we remove this entry from the list? It just seems like pointless flamebait to me- not to mention that in my experience, practically nobody believes that female Transformers "ruined" the brand. I mean, you have some people (including the mighty Simon Furman himself) who find the idea of gender in a race of robots kinda silly because, well, they're robots- an opinion I personally disagree with but still understand- but in all my time as a Transformers fan I've never seen ANYONE having the sort of knee-jerk reaction to the existance of female Transformers that this entry is implying, even on the 4chan Transformers threads.

Plus, quite aside from anything else, it's an open invitation for LOLDRAMA and not even that funny.[[User:Squigsquasher|Squigsquasher]] ([[User talk:Squigsquasher|talk]]) 12:43, 19 September 2015 (EDT)

* As far as I can tell, the only people who had trouble with it were the writers for some of the comics, under the justification that as automata, Transformers shouldn't have genders. That said, no one complained and after Arcee's head-turning introduction to the series, more of them showed up without incident, meaning either a shift in attitude or pressure from Hasbro.

: So yeah, pretty much. Don't need it. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream|talk]]) 14:44, 11 December 2015 (EST)

Nnnnnyeah, that one's staying.
http://fucknotfw2005.tumblr.com/post/125522205664
http://fucknotfw2005.tumblr.com/post/124075222269
http://fucknotfw2005.tumblr.com/post/122682384287
http://fucknotfw2005.tumblr.com/post/129784394268
http://fucknotfw2005.tumblr.com/post/128712971726
http://fucknotfw2005.tumblr.com/post/121195549217
There is literally an entire Tumblr dedicated to cataloging angry reactions to women in Transformers and how "social justice" is ruining it further. Hundreds of entries. If you missed all of it, then you're blessed! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 15:13, 11 December 2015 (EST)
:I mean, seriously, this is one of the few entries on the page that can [http://fusion.net/story/182445/misogynistic-fans-cant-deal-with-the-new-female-transformers/ actually be supported by articles] [http://www.avclub.com/article/hasbro-declares-war-boys-announcing-female-transfo-218595 on non-Transformers websites]. It belongs on here more than most others, if this were a wiki which was going for any kind of Wikipedia-style notability. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 15:16, 11 December 2015 (EST)
:: Well, my day is ruined forever. I could seriously have gone my whole life without learning about this tumblr.--[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 15:20, 11 December 2015 (EST)
Meh, most of the posts linked in that Tumblr (or at least the ones you linked) seemed to be fairly reasonable, and far from the outright disgust that usually accompanies cries of "RUINED FOREVER". Heck, there were actually a few fairly valid points here and there amidst the "I disagree with the direction IDW is taking the franchise" posts (most notably that men might be better at managing/marketing a boy-oriented toyline, just as women might be better for girl-oriented toylines). Unless "Ruined FOREVER" now means "Not everyone agrees this is a 100% good thing" I still think it's a pretty petty, unnecessary addition to an otherwise decent article. Now if you want real Ruined Forever butthurt just look at the reactions to Alpha Bravo, Offroad, Rook and Blastoff-as-a-jet.

Also, you aren't helping your case any by linking to clickbait articles. C'mon, we're better than this.--[[User:Squigsquasher|Squigsquasher]] ([[User talk:Squigsquasher|talk]]) 17:08, 20 December 2015 (EST)
:...wow. Now this entry is staying even more. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:18, 20 December 2015 (EST)
I beg your pardon? Is simply stating the fact that the cited sources did not display a particularly vicious level of backlash, especially compared to, say, the absolute atomic butthurt experienced by the fandom due to the existence of Alpha Bravo and the other CW newbies, now some kind of capital offence? I certainly don't think I said anything that even remotely deserved that level of condescension.--[[User:Squigsquasher|Squigsquasher]] ([[User talk:Squigsquasher|talk]]) 17:44, 20 December 2015 (EST)
::No, no, he needed to use more condescension. You're agreeing with some awful-ass bigoted shit. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:58, 20 December 2015 (EST)
:::Yeah, I was toning it down, really. Because the contention that new Combiner components complaints were somehow more vicious and awful than the shit leveled at the existence of more female TFs, including female TFs who don't look like metal Barbies (adding a nice layer of transphobia to the mix) is patently ridiculous, repulsive horseshit, and you are NOT going to win this one, so just stop now. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:01, 20 December 2015 (EST)

Both those websites linked push agendas up the asshole, and pulling shit off some obscure Tumblr page doesn't really help one's argument. Also, it's funny seeing Walky defend entry. Why don't we compromise? Remove the shit about feminism and SJWs and replace it with something like... "More female Transformers"? It makes the people mad look like strawmen, but it's a start. ~~[[User:TheTFGeek]]~~ ([[User talk:TheTFGeek:talk]])
:Oh, and I won't be able to reply immediately because I'll be hitting the hay soon. Please take into consideration my idea and try to act civilized (not that you all aren't). Oh, and apologies for attacking you like that, Walky. ~~[[User:TheTFGeek|TheTFGeek]]~~
::Hahahahah "agendas" hahahahhahahahah no. No, it is not going away. Coddling bigoted, misogynistic shit is not "civilized", its scummy and won't be tolerated here. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:38, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:::I would sooner raze this website to the ground than allow something I pay for to coddle smallminded 4chan concern trolling about "agendas." It stays. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 03:57, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::::Shit, I was trying to act nice and compromise, but, alright, have it your way. Also, M, are you telling me you really can't tell when news sites push agendas? ~~[[User:TheTFGeek|TheTFGeek]]~~
:::::Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahah --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 12:32, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::::::Hahhhhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha this fool won't actually argue with me and has to reply in a insulting manner hahahahahahahahah ~~[[User:TheTFGeek|TheTFGeek]]~~
:It's interesting how nobody's ever asked that this article be more polite about fans who hate Beast Wars or the live-action films or whatever. No, it's just the fans who hate female characters who deserve that! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 07:31, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:Gamergate has finally reached our shores. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 09:19, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::I had a good feeling someone would bring that up... ~~[[User:TheTFGeek|TheTFGeek]]~~
:::I wonder why. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:38, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:I'm unclear regarding how the obscurity or otherwise of the tumblr page is relevant when it is reposting stuff people have said on a major Transformers fan site. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 14:56, 21 December 2015 (EST)
::My two Euro-Cents: Do I ''personally'' need female Transformers? Not necessarily. Do I hate the concept of female Transformers? Hell no. Do I oppose the introduction of more female Transformers characters? Not if they're written well, which they seem to be for the most part. (I particularly enjoy Nautica!) Is the backlash hilariously over the top? Absolutely. Is it indicative of misogyny deeply rooted in many members of our jolly little fandom? Definitely. Does it belong on this page? Well, of course.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 17:13, 21 December 2015 (EST)

==Locked==
If ever there was a page that deserved to be locked, it's this one. The idea that it needs some debate before we go ahead and add something here is a good one, and I hope it stays that way indefinitely. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 08:37, 21 December 2015 (EST)
:Thank you for listening to me instead of laughing at my posts and automatically assuming I'm a troll. I'd add some insulting stuff in this next sentence, but I don't want to further agitate people. ~~[[User:TheTFGeek|TheTFGeek]]~~
::Right, I just got an idea for a bullet point; combining Dinobots, which were summarily Ruined FOREVER to the fandom after [[The Beast Within]]. It's pretty clear that that topic should probably be on here under a bullet point, at least to me. [[User:MaximalBroadjaw|MaximalBroadjaw]] ([[User talk:MaximalBroadjaw|talk]]) 17:00, 17 February 2016 (EST)

== Combiner Wars ==

Anyone else think Combiner Wars (cartoon) should be added to the list? [[User:Jcbynum1|Jcbynum1]] 23:11, 27 September 2016 EST
:No, the point of this list is things which whiners ridiculously claim have ruined Transformers but in fact have not. Terribly made productions are a separate thing. You don't see the RotF film on here with its dismally low critical reception, do you? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 23:19, 27 September 2016 (EDT)
:Sipher gave a big fat NO to that previously, so it's a no go. This page isn't for everything terrible or everything new, just specific stuff that was widely, irrationally feared by the fandom to spell certain irreparable doom for the Transformers brand. As bad as the CW cartoon was, it was hyped up with much anticipation and hailed by some as a sort of Second Coming of G1 in cartoon form. People were dying to see this cartoon and were thinking it could be the greatest thing ever, the very opposite of the "Ruined FOREVER" concept. And once it came out, while people saw how bad it was, they still knew that it wouldn't ruin the brand like they thought the things on this page would. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 23:21, 27 September 2016 (EDT)

== Apparently IDW is adding another to the list ==

According to some people 'stuck in 1984', shall we say, at least, [[Rom the Space Knight|Multi-property crossovers]] are Ruining FOREVER! Transformers as a stealth way to phase out all the 1984-introduced characters we know and love. - [[User:TBR|TBR]] ([[User talk:TBR|talk]]) 04:26, 8 October 2016 (EDT)
:Once again, the list's entry requirements are not a simple as "some people complained about it". (If they were, literally everything the brand has ever done would be on the list.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 05:19, 8 October 2016 (EDT)

== HasCon ==
Given the fans' unfavorable reaction to the newest convention, any hopes for adding this to the page? [[User:FigureGunplaFan|FigureGunplaFan]] ([[User talk:FigureGunplaFan|talk]]) 13:21, 13 June 2017 (EDT)
:Has Hascon been actually accused being something that will "ruin the Transformers brand forever", or have the negative reactions just been a general dislike of some of the con's aspects? If only the latter, then no, it wouldn't be added to this page. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:53, 13 June 2017 (EDT)
::Well, looks like HasCon is spared from the fires of this page. [[User:FigureGunplaFan|FigureGunplaFan]] ([[User talk:FigureGunplaFan|talk]]) 02:23, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
:::Great, that omission has made this page worthless. "Transformers: Ruined FOREVER" ruined FOREVER. [[User:Cosmos1|Cosmos1]] ([[User talk:Cosmos1|talk]]) 23:30, 22 October 2017 (EDT)
::::At this point I would support the removal of the list of things that have ruined Transformers forever, just to make it easier to keep the page from being indiscriminately added to. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:06, 23 October 2017 (EDT)
:::::It's already locked so only administrators can edit the page. I think bringing prospective items here means we can limit what's added all right, even if some people are going to disagree with the outcome of the discussion. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:42, 23 October 2017 (EDT)
::::::I for one was trying to make a joke. I'm not really concerned about HasCon being on this page. [[User:Cosmos1|Cosmos1]] ([[User talk:Cosmos1|talk]]) 10:17, 26 October 2017 (EDT)

== Hasbro acquiring TakTom ==
Oh boy, this is a big one. This is going to be mentioned to this page in the future if this happens. https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/speculation-hasbro-looking-to-acquire-takara-tomy/39978/ (NOTE: This is speculation) [[User:FigureGunplaFan|FigureGunplaFan]] ([[User talk:FigureGunplaFan|talk]]) 10:25, 8 November 2017 (EST)
UPDATE: Yup, that "Unifying the Brands" happened. [[User:FigureGunplaFan|FigureGunplaFan]] ([[User talk:FigureGunplaFan|talk]]) 21:45, 26 December 2017 (EST)

== Cade's quote in TLK ==
Should you add Cade's "That is ''not'' Optimus" quote in this page as a meta reference to the fans and the page? [[User:FigureGunplaFan|FigureGunplaFan]] ([[User talk:FigureGunplaFan|talk]]) 21:45, 26 December 2017 (EST)

== Beast? ==

Given the frequency of the two subjects popping up together, I am actually curious. Has anyone ever accused the Beast of ruining the franchise forever? Or is it one of those thankfully obscure things that only really comes up on this wiki and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBZDj3DwXD4 The Cinema Sins review of ''Power Rangers''?] --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream|talk]]) 17:14, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:I think it's one of those things that isn't obscure among TFdom, but it's also not exactly mainstream media like most of the things on that list.
:It prob belongs on this list, tho. [[User:Crossfire|'''Cross''']][[User talk:Crossfire|'''fire''']] 18:35, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
::The point of this list is not "bad things in the Transformers franchise" but "things the fandom overreacted to". Nobody cared about the Beast because it's a British pack-in comic that has zero influence on anything. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 18:42, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:::Have you... ''seen'' the Beast, Saix? I don't know if I'd say "no influence"...
:::But in all seriousness, he is correct. Pretty much anyone who goes on a TF news-site or the like can be exposed to mainline show or comic and react to it. The Beast is more one of those things that only hardcore fans (and/or us wiki editors) really understand the reference to. It's horrifying, but not "controversial". [[User:Crossfire|'''Cross''']][[User talk:Crossfire|'''fire''']] 22:09, 3 April 2018 (EDT)

== Toy Distributions in 2020 ==

Looks like this example has potential given the negative reactions regarding Hasbro's lack of distribution in some countries like the UK. [[User:FigureGunplaFan|FigureGunplaFan]] ([[User talk:FigureGunplaFan|talk]]) 04:52, 8 October 2020 (EDT)
: No. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 07:50, 8 October 2020 (EDT)
:: (Late response) Okay, I understood. But I'm also here to remind you that the responses to the exclusives these days are alarmingly clear. [[User:FigureGunplaFan|FigureGunplaFan]] ([[User talk:FigureGunplaFan|talk]]) 21:49, 26 October 2020 (EDT)

== NFTs ==
Yup. <big>'''''Definitely'''''</big> [https://news.tfw2005.com/2022/03/07/transformers-x-funko-nft-collection-series-1-announced-451207?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter new entry worthy]. [[User:FigureGunplaFan|FigureGunplaFan]] ([[User talk:FigureGunplaFan|talk]]) 22:32, 7 March 2022 (EST)
:Probably not for this page, because this is a sarcastic list of things that people overreact to but turn out to not be that bad in the long run. NFTs don't quite fit that, being unironically and unabashedly terrible. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 22:49, 7 March 2022 (EST)
::Yeah, no. NFTs are ''objectively'' shit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:57, 7 March 2022 (EST)
:::Okay. Maybe I should SERIOUSLY read the page carefully next time. [[User:FigureGunplaFan|FigureGunplaFan]] ([[User talk:FigureGunplaFan|talk]]) 00:03, 8 March 2022 (EST)

== MOTU no longer a good example ==
In the years since the intro was written, Netflix She-Ra and "kid" He-Man have shown that that property can be rebuilt to appeal to new, more diverse audiences. GIJoe still entombed in amber, though. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 08:51, 17 May 2022 (EDT)
:Honestly, Joe as the sole punchline without Mickey or MOTU feels more effective anyway. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 12:08, 17 May 2022 (EDT)

== Possible addtion - Pronouns? ==
Considering the uproar about Nightshade's pronouns being mentioned like, twice, maybe we could add Pronouns to the list and tag them? (Cue all those people saying that EarthSpark is indoctrinating children lol)
Or add Nightshade to the "SJW" part, since "woke" and "SJW" are pretty much used synonymously nowadays -- [[User:Thunderwave|Thunderwave/Bwans_Art]] ([[User talk:Thunderwave|talk]]) 18:51, 3 January 2024 (EST)
: I don't see any mention of that storm in a teacup on <s>his</s> their page, and frankly I'm disinclined to give the matter any oxygen. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:26, 3 January 2024 (EST)
:: "His"? --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 20:40, 3 January 2024 (EST)
:::guh it's been a long day --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:42, 3 January 2024 (EST)
:::: Valid, let's leave this topic to the whiners on Reddit and X... fingers crossed they'll get used to it in season 2! -- [[User:Thunderwave|Thunderwave/Bwans_Art]] ([[User talk:Thunderwave|talk]]) 23:03, 3 January 2024 (EST)
:Late to this discussion, but "PRONOUNS!!!" definitely needs to be on this article. The outrage around Nightshade might not have seemed as big as it was because those kinds of people have so many constant meltdowns over the most banal things that it's almost impossible to pay attention to any single one of them, but it definitely made a lot of losers angry regardless, there are videos with hundreds of thousands of views on it. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 06:59, 22 October 2025 (EDT))

=="Mario movie"?==
For TF1? I heard that comparison thrown around a lot especially early on. [[User:Liliesrobots|Liliesrobots]] ([[User talk:Liliesrobots|talk]]) 13:31, 8 October 2024 (EDT)
:No! The fans ''LOVE'' this movie. It's like the polar ''opposite'' of what this page is about. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 13:35, 8 October 2024 (EDT)
::Fans in general love this movie but people still bitch about it, and the page is about that minority of bitchy fans, right? [[User:Liliesrobots|Liliesrobots]] ([[User talk:Liliesrobots|talk]]) 15:05, 8 October 2024 (EDT)
:::Sabr is right; this page is for stuff that had ''overwhelming'' discourse surrounding it and/or a not insignificant number of people saying it ruined the franchise, not just a loud minority. TF1 doesn't qualify under any stretch of the imagination. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:28, 8 October 2024 (EDT)

== Possible Addition: Poor Marketing? (for tf one) ==

It’s no secret by now that poor marketing killed any chance of TF one’s success. The trailers made everyone think it was gonna be a generic kids movie, and it threw many people off, me included. And since TF one bombed, Hasbro pulled their funding and the movie franchise is left in limbo. But what do yall think?--[[User:Trashatron|Trashatron]] ([[User talk:Trashatron|talk]]) 17:03, 23 June 2025 (EDT)
:Again, please refer to the top of this talkpage. --[[User:Broadside|Broadside]] ([[User talk:Broadside|talk]]) 17:28, 23 June 2025 (EDT)

==F*nko Pops==

Honestly, just make the "Things that are actually, objectively terrible" page link to the entire Funko Pop page, and add an "(Especially this)" as parenthesis follow-up with a wikilink to the NFT section instead. Funko Pops are legitimately some of the most abhorrent abominations to have been unleashed upon this cruel and uncaring world, seeing walls of these things plastering gentrified comic book shops makes me sick to my stomach, and I support any and all slander against these objectively, empirically, factually, unquestionably horrible wastes of plastic. When Steve Buscemi said "Do you think God stays in heaven because he, too, lives in fear of what he's created here on earth?", I am pretty much 100% sure that Pops were what he was referring to. ([[User:FortressMaxxing|FortressMaxxing]] ([[User talk:FortressMaxxing|talk]]) 06:53, 22 October 2025 (EDT))

==Generative AI==
We've now got at least [[Transformers_(2023)_issue_13#Errors|three]] [[Transformers_(2023)_issue_25#Errors|known]] [[Mbilia Studios|instances]] of Generative AI being used in official Transformers-branded product. Instead of making the Objectively Terrible link go to just NFTs, I suggest making its own section of bullet points within or below the [[Ruined FOREVER#See also|"See also"]] section. This bullet list likely would only have three bullets until something comes along and causes worse environmental damage than Gen AI and NFTs have done so far. 
The proposed list, as follows: 
Things that are ''actually'', ''objectively'' terrible
*[[Funko Pop!#And then there's all those dreaded NFTs|Non-Fungible Tokens]]
*[[Transformers_(2023)_issue_13#Errors|Generative]] [[Transformers_(2023)_issue_25#Errors|AI]]
*[[Mbilia Studios|<s>A money laundering scheme</s> $3800 statues]]
[[User:Singularity|Singularity]] ([[User talk:Singularity|talk]]) 18:59, 8 November 2025 (EST)

:I agree with this. [[User:Kadeo|Kadeo]] ([[User talk:Kadeo|talk]]) 20:33, 16 November 2025 (EST)

Talk:Brawl (G1)

2025-11-16T21:12:57Z

Kadeo: aotp brawl bruticus ankle tilt issue

Okay, so Art of War, issue 3. The Decepticon HQ is referred to as the "TEMPORARY BASE OF THE NEW DECEPTICON ARMY". I personally don't read that as calling out the "New Decepticon Army" as a proper noun, meriting its own article. Thoughts? [[User:Chip|Chip]] 18:28, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:Me either. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:30, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:Brawltww.jpg|left|thumb|150px|This... is my BOOMSTICK!]]
Hey! I saw a tank called the Mammoth Tank. The vehicle mode Brawl turn into is looking like a Mammoth Tank from C&C. Did you put something from C&C on the Transformers Wiki?!! This is a Transformers Wiki not its rival the C&C Wiki!
(Spearhead 03:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

== Trivia Time ==

The first item in the Trivia section doesn't make sense, but I can't figure out what the original writer was trying to say.

:"Early models of the team were a bit more accurate to the toys{{m-}}except for the heads, oddly enough, where the show models are quite accurate"...

Wait...so the early show models of the team were more accurate to the toys, except for the heads, meaning the show model heads are inaccurate. Then it says the show models' heads are quite accurate. What?

And if you take out the part framed by em-dashes, which should still leave a complete sentence, you get:

:"Early models of the team were a bit more accurate to the toys have shown up in various sourcebooks, though Brawl's is still off in some very odd ways."

I'm guessing this is supposed to be two sentences. The first would end at the word "toys", and the second would start off something like "These early models have shown up..." However, it's possible the author didn't mean to refer to those early models for the second sentence, so I'm hesitating to rewrite.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== War for Cybertron... ==

Is the Brawl in WfC considered him or a separate character? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 15:24, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:As far as I know, all WFC characters are considered G1. I could be mistaken, though. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:02, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::Having looked around more, I now know that I am DEAD WRONG. WFC is now being considered part of the (Prime) continuity family, which means the character in War for Cybertron is Brawl (Prime) -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:13, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::You were right until today, further information and consideration led to the decision to split Prime/WFC/Exodus from G1. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:36, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::::So I was right on time with my question! I was just wondering why there wasn't even a placeholder mention of the WFC appearance. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:36, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

== AOTP Brawl's Bruticus ankle tilt stress marks ==

A lot of AOTP Brawl figures people are getting their hands on early have stress marks on Bruticus' ankle tilt joint. And for the record these don't seem to be factory samples or anything, they're fully boxed copies sold ahead of the retail date. This doesn't seem to be an isolated incident, so it's probably worth noting. (specific example; The Display Case with Nate on Youtube purchased two copies, both had the stress mark.) Supposedly there is a 'fix' by loosening the screw, although I haven't heard any evidence of this working. -[[User:Kadeo|Kadeo]] ([[User talk:Kadeo|talk]]) 16:12, 16 November 2025 (EST)

Dinobot (BW)/toys

2025-11-01T21:28:31Z

Kadeo: /* Legacy */ fixes reference link error (oops)

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[[File:Kingdom Golden Disk Dinobot becomes a masimal.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|]]

All '''Dinobot''' toys have honor!

==Toys==
===''Beast Wars''===
{{twoimages|File:BW-toy Dinobot.jpg|File:BW-toy DinobotTakara97.jpg|w1=300|w2=300|caption=Left: Wasn't he in [[Jurassic Park|''Jurassic Park'']]? (Hasbro version) Right: Let's hide the legs in beast mode by making them bright translucent orange! (Second Takara version)}}
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe Class, [[1996]])
**''Takara ID number:'' '''C-4'''
**''Takara release date:'' July [[1997]]
**''Accessories:'' "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon]]", sword
{{toydesigner|[[Takio Ejima]] (TakaraTomy), [[Masakatsu Saito]] (concept artist)}}

:Part of the first wave of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' product, Dinobot transforms into what his bio claims is a "vicious ''[[Popular beast alternate modes|Velociraptor]]''". His tail detaches and separates to form a gear-powered, spinning blade "cyber-slash tail weapon", while the central "tail bone" separates to be used as a sword. The entire assembly can store in [[robot mode]] by flipping down the tail-mount and pegging the blade's base to the peg on his lower back. Like all early Deluxe-and-up ''Beast Wars'' toys, he has a "mutant mask", halves of a dino-skull that flip up to cover his more robotic head. Thankfully these pieces are not pinned in, and can be easily removed for better clearance and show-accuracy.

:The original Dinobots shipped on cards with "rocky"-shaped bubbles. Later (and more numerous) assortments moved to a smooth, rounded bubble, leading the first packaging type to become sought-after collectibles on the secondary market. The second packaging variant also saw a slight difference in the toy's tooling, leaving a blank square cut out of his abdomen mold for a [[rubsign]] in preparation for [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Beast Wars|his 1997 redeco]].

:Takara's initial release of the toy was identical to the [[Hasbro]] version (save packaging, of course). In January 1998, Takara [[redeco]]ed many of the ''Beast Wars'' toys and re-released them in slightly more show-like tones; Dinobot's distressingly pinkish skin was changed to tan, his orange robot eyes became red, his flat blue face became metallic blue, his orange dinosaur eyes became white, and his helmet was painted in metallic gold. This version also features the blank square for a rubsign.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BJ's-Wholesale-Club-Dinobot-and-Tigatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Deluxe Beast Assortment (Dinobot and Tigatron)''' (two-pack, 1996)
**''Accessories:'' "Cyber-slash tail weapon", sword

:Sold exclusively at [[BJ's Wholesale Club]], Dinobot was released alongside [[Tigatron]] in a two-pack card.

:Both toys are identical to their individual releases.

::*''[https://www.shmax.com/product_details/9280/dinobot_and_tigatron_deluxe_beast_assortment_two_pack More infromation on Shmax.com]''

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[[File:VS4-DinobotTarantuas.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|I prefer to package my toys the old-fashioned way... BRUTALLY!!!]]
*'''Kyōbō no Taiketsu: Dinobot VS Tarans''' (VS pack, 1997)
**''ID number:'' '''VS-4'''
**''Accessories:'' "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon]]", sword

:In Japan, Dinobot was available both as an individual and in a "Ferocious Showdown" (凶暴の対決 ''Kyōbō no Taiketsu'') two-pack with "[[Tarantulas (BW)/toys#VS4|Tarans]]". Both toys in this set were identical to their individual, nigh-identical-to-the-Hasbro-versions releases.

:Both the original toy and Takara's later "more show-like" redeco of Dinobot was released via this VS set.<ref>[https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1418228061464678400 Dinobot and Tarans VS pack comparison.]</ref>

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*'''Gold Dinobot''' (Multi-pack "Lucky Draw", [[1998]])
**''Accessories:'' "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon]]", sword

: In 1998, ''[[TV Magazine]]'' offered a gold chrome Dinobot as a prize. Where he was part of a set of other gold ''Beast Wars'' toys of the 5 main Maximals characters.
::*''[https://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/japanesebeastwars.html More information at Soundwaves Oblivion]''

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[[File:Mcdinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Transforms from ''Velociraptor'' to wolfman.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Happy Meal Transmetal, 1998)
**''McNumber'': '''6'''

:Part of the second [[McDonald's]] ''Beast Wars'' Happy Meal promotion, [[Transmetal]] Dinobot transforms into a robotic ''Velociraptor''. To tie in with the chrome plastic [[gimmick]] of the retail Transmetal toys, parts of his [[beast mode]] are cast in glittery metallic plastic. Like the other McDonald's toys from this assortment, he shares nothing in common with his previous body other than [[alternate mode]] choice.

:This toy was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] by [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' to represent an [[Dinobot (Transmetal)|initial prototype]] of Dinobot's evil clone, [[Dinobot II]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Transmetal Dinobot at TFU.info]''

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[[File:FK-Dinobot-toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Eww...perhaps using the power sander to buff his scales wasn't a good idea.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Fox Kids Deluxe, [[1999]])
**''Accessories:'' "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon]]", sword

:Part of the first wave of "[[Fox Kids]]" redecoes (so called because of the callout on the package to the Fox Kids programming block where the cartoon had recently moved), this version of Dinobot is more dark brown than the original, with red stripes instead of the original's brown, with a red robot mode face and green eyes. This toy uses the [[retool]]ed mold with the shoulder ratchets and the (unused) "[[rubsign|energon chip]]" space that were created for ''Beast Wars'' [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Beast Wars|Grimlock]].

:Hasbro solicitations named this toy "Live Wire Dinobot",<ref>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.toys.transformers/C30fV9dqOK0/gPO8D3N_PAUJ</ref> but the name never made it to final packaging.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Maximal/FKDinobot/fkdinobot.htm More information on Fox Kids Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===''Beast Wars 10th Anniversary''===
[[File:BW10Dinobot toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He disagrees with everything that ''T. rex'' says, but you know they're best friends.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Beast Wars 10th Anniversary, [[2006]])
**''Accessories:'' "Energo-drill" sword, spinning blade tail weapon, Transmutate left arm
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (packaging artist)}}

:This release is yet another redeco of the original Dinobot toy. Though the ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]'' line's aim was "[[show-accuracy]]", the resulting Dinobot toy confused some fans, with its dark brown base color, odd placement of blue, and, mostly, the metallic green on his bone-like decorations. Like the other ''10th Anniversary'' toys, he has a faction symbol tampoed on his body; in Dinobot's case, there's a Maximal logo on the left side of his robot chest. Like Fox Kids! Dinobot, this toy has the Energon Chip indent and shoulder ratchets that were added for ''Beast Wars'' Grimlock.

:''Beast Wars 10th Anniversary'' Dinobot came with the left arm to the "build-a-bot" figure [[Transmutate (BW)|Transmutate]], plus a DVD containing the obvious Dinobot-themed episode, "[[Code of Hero]]".

:Unfortunately, Dinobot is ''highly'' susceptible to [[Gold Plastic Syndrome]]. Just about any part of this Dinobot is made of metallic plastics that collectively hit their expiration dates around [[2013]], making him highly fragile. The neck, helmet halves, shoulder ratchets, and hip joints are usually the first to snap.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on 10th Anniversary Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===''Timelines''===
[[File:Botcon2006Dinobot toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|[[Can You Dig It?|Can you dig it?]]]]
*'''Dawn of Future's Past''' (Multi-pack Deluxe, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Golden Disk Key
{{toydesigner|[[Joe Moore]] (concept artist)}}<ref>{{citesocial|quote=For Dinobot, they wanted a figure that felt like a dinosaur in both modes. Armada Hoist was a fairly easy pick. This one is probably the most dramatic change from concept to final, where they wanted a much darker look. Concept and final.|link=https://twitter.com/Joe_Toyark/status/1370241085067436035|site=Twitter|name=Joe Moore|year=2021|month=03|day=11}}</ref>

:Part of the five-toy [[BotCon 2006]] [[exclusive]] boxed set (along with [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]], [[Optimus Primal (BW)/toys|Optimus Primal]], [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]], and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]), ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' "Darksyde Dinobot" is a redeco of the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Longrack (Cybertron)|Longrack]] mold, itself a [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Smokescreen (Armada)#Hoist|Hoist]]. Dinobot uses almost all of Longrack's new-mold parts save for the head; Hoist's head had originally been based on Dinobot's in the first place!<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Cybertron Scourge... is that... that's the... backhoe guy. *Mimes Hoist's arm gimmick.* Yeah, his head is very much like Dinobot, I think I did design it like that. I don't know why. But I like that look. [Could you think of him as the Unicron Trilogy's Dinobot?] Yeah you totally could. Definitely with those colors, it even has that veliciraptor color vibe that they were using back then.|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToNlyjgeZc&t=445s|name=Aaron Archer|site=''The Toy Armada''|title=Toy Armada Friday Night LIVE - General discussion|year=2023|month=03|day=24}}</ref> He transforms into a Cybertronic excavator. Inserting a [[Cyber Key]] or [[Cyber Key|Golden Disk Key]] into his shoulder assembly unlocks a shovel-punch attack activated by pressing on the plunger mechanism above the key port. Like Longrack, he does ''not'' come with a [[Mini-Con]] partner. The color scheme is partially based on his ''10th Anniversary'' toy.

:The original version of this mold was also used to make ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Ransack (Universe 2003)|Ransack]].

::*''[https://twitter.com/Joe_Toyark/status/1370241085067436035 Designer commentary on Darksyde Dinobot from Joe Moore on Twitter]''
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Predacon/BCDinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Darksyde Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===''Beast Wars Telemocha Series''===
[[File:Japanese10thDinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|At last, I CAN TALK!]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, 2006)
**''ID number:'' '''TM-05'''
**''Accessories:'' Dino Sabel, Cyber Shield

:Celebrating Japan's 10th anniversary of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' (one year later than the West), the ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Beast Wars Telemocha]]'' version of Dinobot is yet another (and final?) redeco of the venerable tooling, including the shoulder ratcheting added to the previous Hasbro versions. While definitely more [[Show-accuracy|accurate to the CGI model]] than the Hasbro [[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|10th Anniversary]] version from the previous year, most of its color-scheme decisions favor the robot mode, such as bronze/gold shoulder joints. The result of this is a less consistently colored beast mode than the Hasbro version. It is the first (and only) version of the mold to place deco on the "mutant mask" halves.

:Though there are some colors dropped between the transition from CGI model to toy, Telemocha Dinobot does currently hold the prize for the sheer number of paint applications used on this mold, and by a large margin. Perhaps most significant to many fans, however, is that this version of Dinobot has a mouth, if only in the form of a paint operation.

:This release of Dinobot came with a DVD containing the ''Beast Wars'' episode... "A Terrifying New Weapon!", the Japanese dub of "[[The Probe]]" and not "Code of Hero".
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Cybertron/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Telemocha Dinobot at TFU.info]''
{{BWDinobotMold}}
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===''Universe'' (2008)===
[[File:Dinobotuniversedeluxe.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Just in time for the original mold to be practically cheese by now.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, [[2009]])
**''Series'': '''Beast Wars Series'''
**''Accessories:'' Tail/missile launcher, missile/sword
{{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro), [[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Dinobot transforms into a brown and amber ''Jurassic Park''-style ''Velociraptor'' with a robot mode styled heavily after the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' CGI model, including a face with a nose and mouth. His transformation has been altered to produce more human-like proportions, with his robot legs now becoming the raptor legs and the arms hiding mostly inside the torso. He also sports a fully show accurate robot head which can be raised to a 45 degree angle as well as turn. On his chest is a panel that can swap between a Maximal symbol, a Predacon symbol and a blank third panel (for the beast mode head). His [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] double opposable thumbs can be swapped out for "proper" fists. His tail still detaches and splits to become a weapon, but no longer rotates. Instead, it fires a missile shaped like his sword from the cartoon, which can be held as a sword by either the regular fist or claw hands. The tail can also clip onto his back for storage.

:Further referencing his change in allegiance, his packaging identifies him as a Predacon, while his bio treats his defection to the Maximals as a future event.

:This toy was also later [[repurposing|repurposed]] as ''Beast Wars Shattered Glass'' [[Dinobot (BWSG)|Dinobot]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Predacon/TFUDinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Universe Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===''Henkei! Henkei!''===
[[File:Henkei Dinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"Then I'll be brief! Oh, happy dagger, this is thy sheath. There rust and let me die."]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, 2009-[[March 12|03-12]])
**''ID number:'' '''C-16'''
**''Accessories:'' Tail/missile launcher, missile/sword
{{toydesigner|[[Naoto Tsushima]] (packaging artist)}}

:The ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' release of Dinobot is in more traditional colors than the Hasbro version, decoed in brown with several tan stripes, plus blue and golden detailing. Clear red plastic replaces the clear orange found on the ''Universe'' version. Like all ''Henkei! Henkei!'' releases he features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum metallized]] parts, particularly his missile/sword.
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===''Device Label''===
[[File:DeviceLabel-Dinobot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Sorry, you've been replaced.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Device Label, 2009)

:Dinobot would have transformed from a working USB laser mouse into a brown and gold mechanoid raptor, but an early [[BigBadToyStore]] solicitation for him was almost immediately supplanted by a solicitation for "[[Trypticon (G1)#Device Label|Dinosaurer]]" (Trypticon), once better information was had.
{{canceledtoy}}
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===''Masterpiece''===
[[File:TF-Masterpiece-BW-MP-41-Dinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|What a piece of work is Dinobot! How noble in reason! How infinite in... currency.]]
* '''Dinobot (Beast Wars)''' ([[2018]]-[[July 28|07-28]])
**''ID number:'' '''MP-41'''
**''Accessories:'' [[Cyber-slash tail weapon|Cyber Shield]], Dino Sabel, 4 robot faces, beam effect, [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], disk stand, disk adapter, base adapter (beast mode), base adapter (robot mode), base A, base B, base arm
{{toydesigner|[[Yuki Ohshima]] (concept artist)}}

: ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Dinobot transforms from a show-accurate ''Velociraptor'' to a show-accurate robot. It scales correctly with the other ''Masterpiece Beast Wars'' figures. Unlike Primal or Cheetor, Dinobot features printed details and a coat of chip-resistant paint, making him a lot more durable.

: Dinobot also comes with many accessories: first, his two trademark weapons—his tail weapon with working spinning gimmick and the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]]. The Disk is fully detailed, complete with the "The Sounds of Earth" label sculpted on it. Dinobot also comes with 4 different faces for the robot (serious, smirking, smiling and growling); the latter one has clear eyes that can glow via an LED inside his head; a switch will allow the eyes to light up both in red and green. To complement the latter option, the figure also comes with an extra piece that represents Dinobot's eye beams. The light-up feature is fueled by two LR44 batteries (not included). The raptor head can also emote, but needs no extra pieces: a panel on top of the head can be flipped to replace the regular eyes with a second, narrower pair. A final accessory, a stand is formed by a 2-piece base that can be united in multiple directions, the regular arm and 3 extra attachments: one is to hook the Golden Disk onto the base, one is for Dinobot's robot mode and the last one is a cradle to place Dinobot's raptor mode on the stand. Much like the new ''Masterpiece Movie Series'' figures, Dinobot's robot mode mouth can open and close.

: Due to a [[design flaw]] on the initial release, moving Dinobot's robot shoulders through their normal outward range of motion carries a risk of breaking off a small ridge inside the ratchet joint due to an overly strong spring. Lubricating the joints with grease or dish soap can prevent the issue, and it was rectified on later releases with a weaker spring and slightly thicker ridge within the ratchet.

: Some Dinobot figures drain the battery power unusually fast, with some owners reporting that batteries died less than two days after installation and with minimal use.
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===''War for Cybertron: Kingdom''===
[[File:WFC-Kingdom Voyager Dinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Rattrap's "Dino-Butt" insult seems to have taken on a new meaning 25 years later.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Voyager Class, [[2021]])
**''Hasbro ID number'': '''WFC-K16'''
**''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''KD-08'''
**''TakaraTomy release date'': [[June 26]], 2021
**''Accessories'': "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon#Generations|Cyber slash tail weapon]]"<ref>[https://hasbropulse.com/products/transformers-generations-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-voyager-wfc-k18-dinobot "Tail detaches from raptor mode during conversion and becomes his Cyber Slash tail weapon and sword accessories."]</ref>, sword, Golden Disk card
{{toydesigner|[[Shogo Hasui]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Ken Christiansen]] (concept artist)}}

:Released to commemorate the 25th anniversary of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'', ''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom]]'' Dinobot is a Voyager Class-sized mold that transforms from a cartoon-accurate robot into a ''[[Jurassic Park]]''-accurate ''Velociraptor'' in 28 steps. His hands have a [[5 mm post|5 mm port]] that can hold both his weapons and can close to hold objects (for example: the Golden Disks associated with the [[Ark (G1)#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Titan Class Ark]]). He also has 5mm ports under his heels and one under his back-[[kibble]]. His tail can detach and split into two components: his Cyber Slash tail weapon, and his signature sword. The sword's tip is molded with the same texture as Dinobot's skin, presumably to better blend in as the tail tip in beast mode. Due to the Cyber Slash weapon connection, the sword cannot be held by other Transformers toys with traditional 5mm port hands. The Cyber Slash weapon can store in robot mode by attaching to the same port as beast mode. Much like most of the toyline, Dinobot comes with one of four possible holographic [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] cards for his wave, which reveals a [[Source:Golden Disk destinies|possible destiny]] of a key character, Dinobot being one of them. Dinobot's packaging labels him as a Predacon instead of a Maximal, though the toy itself has no faction symbols.

:The toy was announced using photos of the actual toy with no alterations, while his packaging's [[:File:Kingdomtoy-Dinobotpackaging.jpg|stock renders]] feature some different colors and are missing some transformation seamlines.

:Unfortunately, the [[Unpaintable plastic|nylon plastic]] used to mold Dinobot's forearms has been reported to [[Photodegradation|yellow]] over time, giving them a green-ish tint.

:Dinobot was later retooled as ''Kingdom'' [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Maximal Grimlock]].
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===''Buzzworthy Bumblebee''===
[[File:TF-Legacy-Buzzworthy-Bumblebee-Dinobot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|And I say, "Dinobot, you are ''bad guy'', but this does not mean you are bad ''guy''."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-m1|'''Heroic Maximal Dinobot''' (Voyager Class, [[2022]])}}</ul>
:*''Series'': ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]''
:*''Accessories'': Cyber-slash tail weapon, sword

: Part of the cross-franchise ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]]'' subline, "Heroic Maximal Dinobot" is a [[:File:BW-toy Dinobot.jpg|1996 toy-inspired]] redeco of the above ''Kingdom'' figure with [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Maximal Grimlock]]'s head sculpt.

: Like the above Kingdom figure, the nylon plastic used for various parts of Dinobot's body is prone to rapid yellowing, including while still in [[mint in sealed box|unopened packages]]. Despite the "Heroic Maximal" prefix, his instruction manual has a Predacon symbol before his name.

: As with other figures in its line, Heroic Maximal Dinobot was exclusive to [[Target]] in the United States.
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===''Legacy''===
A listing for a Core Class version of Dinobot was solicited for Legacy United as 'Tra Gen Legacy UNI Core BW Dinobot'.<ref>[https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/2025-generations-listings-united-wave-5-age-of-the-primes.1259609/]</ref> This figure got as far as being tooled, but due to the cancellation of the Core size class, plans to release during Legacy fell through.<ref>[https://tfwikicommunity.wordpress.com/2025/10/29/a-stampede-of-hooves-and-tires-my-saturday-with-the-hasbro-team-mcm-comic-con-25/ TFWiki community interview with Evan, 'Unreleased toys' section].</ref>
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===''Beast Wars Again''===
[[File:TF-BW-Again-JP-BWVS-06-Dinobot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|]]
*'''Gyakushin no Taiketsu''' ([[January 27]], [[2024]])
**''ID number'': '''BWVS-06'''
**''Accessories'': [[Cyber-slash tail weapon#Beast Wars Again|Cyber slash tail weapon]], sword
{{toydesigner|[[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Hidetsugu Yoshioka]] (packaging artist)}}

:Released as part of the ''[[Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again|Beast Wars Again]]'' line, the "Treacherous Showdown" (逆心の対決) set contains Dinobot and and [[Tarantulas (BW)/toys#Beast Wars Again|Tarans]]. Dinobot is a redeco of [[#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|''Kingdom'' Dinobot]] in more cartoon-accurate colors. He comes with an unpainted [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|''Voyager'' Golden Disk]] reused from the ''Masterpiece'' release.
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==Merchandise==
===''Beast Wars'' puzzle===
*'''Beast Wars Transformers 200 piece puzzle''' (puzzle, 1996)

:A [[Beast Wars Transformers Jigsaw Puzzle|200-piece puzzle]] from [[Milton Bradley]] featured art of Dinobot and [[Razorbeast]] fighting [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] and [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]. It was very chrome-foil-y! [http://tfmuseum.com/tf-00081.html]
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===Kabaya===
[[File:BWmerch-KabayaDinobotkit.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|Hope you like putting stickers over molded detail!]]
*'''Dinobot''' (candy toy model kit, 1997)

:Part of the second wave of [[Kabaya]] model kits (which included Cheetor, Rattrap, and Terrorsaur), Dinobot is a peg-together model kit. The parts come on pink and yellow sprues, plus there are stickers, instructions for assembly, and a stick of terrible gum. Transformation involves removing the tail, robot legs, and robot arms, and pegging them elsewhere as needed.
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[[File:BWmerch-KabayaDinobotfigurine.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Eat it, other [[Transformers Hall of Fame|Hall of Fame]] nominees! But don't eat the candy. Or raw chicken.]]

*'''Dinobot''' (candy toy, 1997)
:A tiny plastic Dinobot figurine molded onto an irregularly-shaped stand was released by Kabaya. Labeled toy 6 of 6, the other characters in his wave were Cheetor, Rattrap, Megatron, Optimus Primal, and Rhinox. They were also available in smokey translucent plastic? [http://tfmuseum.com/tf-01805.html] As always, terrible candy is included.
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*'''Dinobot''' (candy toy, 1997)
:A tiny superdeformed Dinobot was also available from Kabaya. It's way too adorable. [http://tfmuseum.com/tf-00714.html]
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===''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''===
[[File:Dinobotmutatingcard.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''' (1997)

:Dinobot was one of the 24 beast warriors to receive a battle card representation for the Beast Wars [[Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game|card game]].
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===First 4 Figures===
[[File:BWDinobot minibust.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Legs are for the weak.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (<s>2006</s> unreleased)
{{toydesigner|[[Ryan Bailey]] (sculptor){{fact}}}}

:First revealed in 2006 at both the UK<ref>[https://news.tfw2005.com/2006/01/25/first4figures-beast-wars-and-transformers-vs-g-i-joe-statuesbusts-4267 "First4Figures Beast Wars and Transformers VS. G.I. Joe Statues/Busts"] at TFW2005.com</ref> and New York [[Toy Fair]]s,<ref>[https://tformers.com/transformers-/5568/news.html "Toy Fair 2006 - First4Figures TF & GI Joe Statues& Busts"] at tformers.com</ref> this was to be a 7-inch tall resin bust of Dinobot released as part of a ''Beast Wars'' tenth anniversary series by model company [[First 4 Figures]]. Dinobot is depicted from waist upwards and mounted on a Maximal-themed pedestal, and is sculpted to be accurate to his ''Beast Wars'' cartoon design, including his sword.

:Mini busts in the planned ''Beast Wars'' line were designed to reflect the scale of the characters as seen in the cartoon, and each was set to be limited to 1,996 pieces, in a nod to the franchise's year of origin.<ref name=ASM>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070806062058/http://toyfair06.asmzine.com/first4figures/report.html "First4Figures Limited Transformers Statues and Busts Info!"] at ASMzine.com (archived)</ref> Dinobot was among the first intended to be released (likely the second, given the presence of finalised stock images but absence of a full product listing) in July 2006, though after a series of delays, he and the rest of the ''Beast Wars'' bust line were cancelled, with First 4 Figures citing a challenging marketplace and lack of retailer interest.
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===Prime 1 Studio===
[[File:Prime 1 Studio Premium Masterline Beast Wars Megatron.jpg|upright=1.11|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (2017)
**''ID Number'': '''PMTFBW-02''' / '''02EX''' (exclusive)

:[[Prime 1 Studio]] ''Premium Masterline'' [[Megatron (BW)/toys#Prime 1 Studio|Megatron]] is a highly detailed statue of Megatron's robot mode posing over the bits of a destroyed Dinobot.
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===''ReAction''===
*'''Dinobot''' (2023)
**''Accessories'': Sword, cyber-slash tail weapon

: Released in the seventh wave of [[Super7]]'s line of multi-property 3.75-inch "retro" action figures, ''[[Super7#ReAction|ReAction]]'' Dinobot is a non-converting figure based on his [[Mainframe]] [[character model]], with 5 points of articulation (swivel neck, shoulders, hips).

: Dinobot comes packaged on a small cardback that mixes the design of the original ''Beast Wars'' packaging with some nostalgic elements resembling [[Kenner]]'s ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' action figures from the late 1970s to early '80s.
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==Notes==
*Dinobot's original toy was designed to supplant a failed lion Transformer counterpart to Cheetor that ended up being, understandably, too similar to Cheetor. A dinosaur's entry into the Maximals was justified by pointing out that the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] had been good guys in Generation 1.<ref>[http://obscuretf.com/hhk/BC04interviews.html Botcon 2004 Interview with Vinnie D'Alleva], p1-2</ref>
[[File:Dinobottoycommercial.jpg|thumb|An abandoned deco?]]
*In the first ''Beast Wars'' toy commercials, Dinobot had a slightly different deco than the final toy. He was browner, rather than pinker, and had thicker stripes.
*Some fans are inclined to yank off Dinobot's mutant mask pieces, since he doesn't have them on the television show, they get in the way during transformation, and they're easily removable. Ten years later, Hasbro thought so, too, in their stock photography for ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]'' Dinobot.
*Unlike many pairs of ''Beast Wars'' redecoes, Dinobot and Grimlock were both drawn with the same regular head in their Hasbro packaging art, rather than one having the mutant mask on for a distinctive contrast.
*An actual (i.e. non-McDonald's affiliated) Transmetal Dinobot apparently made it to concept art stages, but not much further. Several elements of the design were recycled for Transmetal [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]].
*Dinobot's toy curiously has six toes on each foot. Since his legs form his [[robot mode]] arms, not only does this mean he's left with two thumbs, but also a tiny, barely noticeable finger molded near his wrist. The double thumbs got carried over onto his animation model, yet his in-show beast mode appears to only have three toes. Between all this, it has to be said that real-life raptors had no more than four toes on each of their feet.
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==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:BWRConcept04.jpg|''Beast Wars'' Dinobot control art
File:TMDinobotConcept.jpg|Transmetal Dinobot concept art
</gallery>

==References==
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[[Category:Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Again]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Telemocha Series]]
[[Category:BotCon exclusives]]
[[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]
[[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]
[[Category:Kreons]]
[[Category:Legacy Maximals]]
[[Category:Masterpiece]]
[[Category:McDonald's exclusives]]
[[Category:Target exclusives]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Toys"R"Us exclusives]]
[[Category:Transmetals]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Kingdom Predacons]]

Talk:Dinobot (BW)/toys

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Kadeo: /* Legacy Core Dinobot */ forgot signature (oops)

===Legacy Core Dinobot===
After reading the TFWiki community interview with Evan, I wrote a little bit about core class Dinobot. Admittedly, this is my first major edit, so it may not be 100% perfect. I'm still new to all the markup so any assistance would be appreciated. I used the uncertain toy template instead of cancelled since the article's wording makes it seem like it's a possibility, but 'it didn’t seem like something they were actively looking at.' could also mean it's just been quietly cancelled. From what I remember the hastak designers did say that more core class releases were a possibility if they could find where to put them, though, so.. yeah. -[[User:Kadeo|Kadeo]] ([[User talk:Kadeo|talk]]) 17:26, 1 November 2025 (EDT)

Talk:Dinobot (BW)/toys

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Dinobot (BW)/toys

2025-11-01T21:19:01Z

Kadeo: /* Toys */ Added information about the canceled Legacy core class Dinobot, which was confirmed to exist by Evan in an interview with the TFWiki Community blog.

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[[File:Kingdom Golden Disk Dinobot becomes a masimal.jpg|upright=1.5|thumb|]]

All '''Dinobot''' toys have honor!

==Toys==
===''Beast Wars''===
{{twoimages|File:BW-toy Dinobot.jpg|File:BW-toy DinobotTakara97.jpg|w1=300|w2=300|caption=Left: Wasn't he in [[Jurassic Park|''Jurassic Park'']]? (Hasbro version) Right: Let's hide the legs in beast mode by making them bright translucent orange! (Second Takara version)}}
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe Class, [[1996]])
**''Takara ID number:'' '''C-4'''
**''Takara release date:'' July [[1997]]
**''Accessories:'' "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon]]", sword
{{toydesigner|[[Takio Ejima]] (TakaraTomy), [[Masakatsu Saito]] (concept artist)}}

:Part of the first wave of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' product, Dinobot transforms into what his bio claims is a "vicious ''[[Popular beast alternate modes|Velociraptor]]''". His tail detaches and separates to form a gear-powered, spinning blade "cyber-slash tail weapon", while the central "tail bone" separates to be used as a sword. The entire assembly can store in [[robot mode]] by flipping down the tail-mount and pegging the blade's base to the peg on his lower back. Like all early Deluxe-and-up ''Beast Wars'' toys, he has a "mutant mask", halves of a dino-skull that flip up to cover his more robotic head. Thankfully these pieces are not pinned in, and can be easily removed for better clearance and show-accuracy.

:The original Dinobots shipped on cards with "rocky"-shaped bubbles. Later (and more numerous) assortments moved to a smooth, rounded bubble, leading the first packaging type to become sought-after collectibles on the secondary market. The second packaging variant also saw a slight difference in the toy's tooling, leaving a blank square cut out of his abdomen mold for a [[rubsign]] in preparation for [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Beast Wars|his 1997 redeco]].

:Takara's initial release of the toy was identical to the [[Hasbro]] version (save packaging, of course). In January 1998, Takara [[redeco]]ed many of the ''Beast Wars'' toys and re-released them in slightly more show-like tones; Dinobot's distressingly pinkish skin was changed to tan, his orange robot eyes became red, his flat blue face became metallic blue, his orange dinosaur eyes became white, and his helmet was painted in metallic gold. This version also features the blank square for a rubsign.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BJ's-Wholesale-Club-Dinobot-and-Tigatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Deluxe Beast Assortment (Dinobot and Tigatron)''' (two-pack, 1996)
**''Accessories:'' "Cyber-slash tail weapon", sword

:Sold exclusively at [[BJ's Wholesale Club]], Dinobot was released alongside [[Tigatron]] in a two-pack card.

:Both toys are identical to their individual releases.

::*''[https://www.shmax.com/product_details/9280/dinobot_and_tigatron_deluxe_beast_assortment_two_pack More infromation on Shmax.com]''

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[[File:VS4-DinobotTarantuas.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|I prefer to package my toys the old-fashioned way... BRUTALLY!!!]]
*'''Kyōbō no Taiketsu: Dinobot VS Tarans''' (VS pack, 1997)
**''ID number:'' '''VS-4'''
**''Accessories:'' "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon]]", sword

:In Japan, Dinobot was available both as an individual and in a "Ferocious Showdown" (凶暴の対決 ''Kyōbō no Taiketsu'') two-pack with "[[Tarantulas (BW)/toys#VS4|Tarans]]". Both toys in this set were identical to their individual, nigh-identical-to-the-Hasbro-versions releases.

:Both the original toy and Takara's later "more show-like" redeco of Dinobot was released via this VS set.<ref>[https://twitter.com/tfwiki/status/1418228061464678400 Dinobot and Tarans VS pack comparison.]</ref>

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*'''Gold Dinobot''' (Multi-pack "Lucky Draw", [[1998]])
**''Accessories:'' "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon]]", sword

: In 1998, ''[[TV Magazine]]'' offered a gold chrome Dinobot as a prize. Where he was part of a set of other gold ''Beast Wars'' toys of the 5 main Maximals characters.
::*''[https://www.soundwavesoblivion.com/japanesebeastwars.html More information at Soundwaves Oblivion]''

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[[File:Mcdinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Transforms from ''Velociraptor'' to wolfman.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Happy Meal Transmetal, 1998)
**''McNumber'': '''6'''

:Part of the second [[McDonald's]] ''Beast Wars'' Happy Meal promotion, [[Transmetal]] Dinobot transforms into a robotic ''Velociraptor''. To tie in with the chrome plastic [[gimmick]] of the retail Transmetal toys, parts of his [[beast mode]] are cast in glittery metallic plastic. Like the other McDonald's toys from this assortment, he shares nothing in common with his previous body other than [[alternate mode]] choice.

:This toy was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] by [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' to represent an [[Dinobot (Transmetal)|initial prototype]] of Dinobot's evil clone, [[Dinobot II]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Transmetal Dinobot at TFU.info]''

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[[File:FK-Dinobot-toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Eww...perhaps using the power sander to buff his scales wasn't a good idea.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Fox Kids Deluxe, [[1999]])
**''Accessories:'' "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon]]", sword

:Part of the first wave of "[[Fox Kids]]" redecoes (so called because of the callout on the package to the Fox Kids programming block where the cartoon had recently moved), this version of Dinobot is more dark brown than the original, with red stripes instead of the original's brown, with a red robot mode face and green eyes. This toy uses the [[retool]]ed mold with the shoulder ratchets and the (unused) "[[rubsign|energon chip]]" space that were created for ''Beast Wars'' [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Beast Wars|Grimlock]].

:Hasbro solicitations named this toy "Live Wire Dinobot",<ref>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.toys.transformers/C30fV9dqOK0/gPO8D3N_PAUJ</ref> but the name never made it to final packaging.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Maximal/FKDinobot/fkdinobot.htm More information on Fox Kids Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===''Beast Wars 10th Anniversary''===
[[File:BW10Dinobot toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He disagrees with everything that ''T. rex'' says, but you know they're best friends.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Beast Wars 10th Anniversary, [[2006]])
**''Accessories:'' "Energo-drill" sword, spinning blade tail weapon, Transmutate left arm
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (packaging artist)}}

:This release is yet another redeco of the original Dinobot toy. Though the ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]'' line's aim was "[[show-accuracy]]", the resulting Dinobot toy confused some fans, with its dark brown base color, odd placement of blue, and, mostly, the metallic green on his bone-like decorations. Like the other ''10th Anniversary'' toys, he has a faction symbol tampoed on his body; in Dinobot's case, there's a Maximal logo on the left side of his robot chest. Like Fox Kids! Dinobot, this toy has the Energon Chip indent and shoulder ratchets that were added for ''Beast Wars'' Grimlock.

:''Beast Wars 10th Anniversary'' Dinobot came with the left arm to the "build-a-bot" figure [[Transmutate (BW)|Transmutate]], plus a DVD containing the obvious Dinobot-themed episode, "[[Code of Hero]]".

:Unfortunately, Dinobot is ''highly'' susceptible to [[Gold Plastic Syndrome]]. Just about any part of this Dinobot is made of metallic plastics that collectively hit their expiration dates around [[2013]], making him highly fragile. The neck, helmet halves, shoulder ratchets, and hip joints are usually the first to snap.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on 10th Anniversary Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===''Timelines''===
[[File:Botcon2006Dinobot toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|[[Can You Dig It?|Can you dig it?]]]]
*'''Dawn of Future's Past''' (Multi-pack Deluxe, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Golden Disk Key
{{toydesigner|[[Joe Moore]] (concept artist)}}<ref>{{citesocial|quote=For Dinobot, they wanted a figure that felt like a dinosaur in both modes. Armada Hoist was a fairly easy pick. This one is probably the most dramatic change from concept to final, where they wanted a much darker look. Concept and final.|link=https://twitter.com/Joe_Toyark/status/1370241085067436035|site=Twitter|name=Joe Moore|year=2021|month=03|day=11}}</ref>

:Part of the five-toy [[BotCon 2006]] [[exclusive]] boxed set (along with [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]], [[Optimus Primal (BW)/toys|Optimus Primal]], [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]], and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]), ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' "Darksyde Dinobot" is a redeco of the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Longrack (Cybertron)|Longrack]] mold, itself a [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Smokescreen (Armada)#Hoist|Hoist]]. Dinobot uses almost all of Longrack's new-mold parts save for the head; Hoist's head had originally been based on Dinobot's in the first place!<ref>{{citesocial|quote=Cybertron Scourge... is that... that's the... backhoe guy. *Mimes Hoist's arm gimmick.* Yeah, his head is very much like Dinobot, I think I did design it like that. I don't know why. But I like that look. [Could you think of him as the Unicron Trilogy's Dinobot?] Yeah you totally could. Definitely with those colors, it even has that veliciraptor color vibe that they were using back then.|link=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToNlyjgeZc&t=445s|name=Aaron Archer|site=''The Toy Armada''|title=Toy Armada Friday Night LIVE - General discussion|year=2023|month=03|day=24}}</ref> He transforms into a Cybertronic excavator. Inserting a [[Cyber Key]] or [[Cyber Key|Golden Disk Key]] into his shoulder assembly unlocks a shovel-punch attack activated by pressing on the plunger mechanism above the key port. Like Longrack, he does ''not'' come with a [[Mini-Con]] partner. The color scheme is partially based on his ''10th Anniversary'' toy.

:The original version of this mold was also used to make ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Ransack (Universe 2003)|Ransack]].

::*''[https://twitter.com/Joe_Toyark/status/1370241085067436035 Designer commentary on Darksyde Dinobot from Joe Moore on Twitter]''
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Predacon/BCDinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Darksyde Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===''Beast Wars Telemocha Series''===
[[File:Japanese10thDinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|At last, I CAN TALK!]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, 2006)
**''ID number:'' '''TM-05'''
**''Accessories:'' Dino Sabel, Cyber Shield

:Celebrating Japan's 10th anniversary of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' (one year later than the West), the ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Beast Wars Telemocha]]'' version of Dinobot is yet another (and final?) redeco of the venerable tooling, including the shoulder ratcheting added to the previous Hasbro versions. While definitely more [[Show-accuracy|accurate to the CGI model]] than the Hasbro [[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|10th Anniversary]] version from the previous year, most of its color-scheme decisions favor the robot mode, such as bronze/gold shoulder joints. The result of this is a less consistently colored beast mode than the Hasbro version. It is the first (and only) version of the mold to place deco on the "mutant mask" halves.

:Though there are some colors dropped between the transition from CGI model to toy, Telemocha Dinobot does currently hold the prize for the sheer number of paint applications used on this mold, and by a large margin. Perhaps most significant to many fans, however, is that this version of Dinobot has a mouth, if only in the form of a paint operation.

:This release of Dinobot came with a DVD containing the ''Beast Wars'' episode... "A Terrifying New Weapon!", the Japanese dub of "[[The Probe]]" and not "Code of Hero".
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Cybertron/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Telemocha Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===''Universe'' (2008)===
[[File:Dinobotuniversedeluxe.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Just in time for the original mold to be practically cheese by now.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, [[2009]])
**''Series'': '''Beast Wars Series'''
**''Accessories:'' Tail/missile launcher, missile/sword
{{toydesigner|[[Bill Rawley]] (Hasbro), [[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Dinobot transforms into a brown and amber ''Jurassic Park''-style ''Velociraptor'' with a robot mode styled heavily after the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' CGI model, including a face with a nose and mouth. His transformation has been altered to produce more human-like proportions, with his robot legs now becoming the raptor legs and the arms hiding mostly inside the torso. He also sports a fully show accurate robot head which can be raised to a 45 degree angle as well as turn. On his chest is a panel that can swap between a Maximal symbol, a Predacon symbol and a blank third panel (for the beast mode head). His [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] double opposable thumbs can be swapped out for "proper" fists. His tail still detaches and splits to become a weapon, but no longer rotates. Instead, it fires a missile shaped like his sword from the cartoon, which can be held as a sword by either the regular fist or claw hands. The tail can also clip onto his back for storage.

:Further referencing his change in allegiance, his packaging identifies him as a Predacon, while his bio treats his defection to the Maximals as a future event.

:This toy was also later [[repurposing|repurposed]] as ''Beast Wars Shattered Glass'' [[Dinobot (BWSG)|Dinobot]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Predacon/TFUDinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Universe Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===''Henkei! Henkei!''===
[[File:Henkei Dinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"Then I'll be brief! Oh, happy dagger, this is thy sheath. There rust and let me die."]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, 2009-[[March 12|03-12]])
**''ID number:'' '''C-16'''
**''Accessories:'' Tail/missile launcher, missile/sword
{{toydesigner|[[Naoto Tsushima]] (packaging artist)}}

:The ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' release of Dinobot is in more traditional colors than the Hasbro version, decoed in brown with several tan stripes, plus blue and golden detailing. Clear red plastic replaces the clear orange found on the ''Universe'' version. Like all ''Henkei! Henkei!'' releases he features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum metallized]] parts, particularly his missile/sword.
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===''Device Label''===
[[File:DeviceLabel-Dinobot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Sorry, you've been replaced.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Device Label, 2009)

:Dinobot would have transformed from a working USB laser mouse into a brown and gold mechanoid raptor, but an early [[BigBadToyStore]] solicitation for him was almost immediately supplanted by a solicitation for "[[Trypticon (G1)#Device Label|Dinosaurer]]" (Trypticon), once better information was had.
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===''Masterpiece''===
[[File:TF-Masterpiece-BW-MP-41-Dinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|What a piece of work is Dinobot! How noble in reason! How infinite in... currency.]]
* '''Dinobot (Beast Wars)''' ([[2018]]-[[July 28|07-28]])
**''ID number:'' '''MP-41'''
**''Accessories:'' [[Cyber-slash tail weapon|Cyber Shield]], Dino Sabel, 4 robot faces, beam effect, [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], disk stand, disk adapter, base adapter (beast mode), base adapter (robot mode), base A, base B, base arm
{{toydesigner|[[Yuki Ohshima]] (concept artist)}}

: ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Dinobot transforms from a show-accurate ''Velociraptor'' to a show-accurate robot. It scales correctly with the other ''Masterpiece Beast Wars'' figures. Unlike Primal or Cheetor, Dinobot features printed details and a coat of chip-resistant paint, making him a lot more durable.

: Dinobot also comes with many accessories: first, his two trademark weapons—his tail weapon with working spinning gimmick and the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]]. The Disk is fully detailed, complete with the "The Sounds of Earth" label sculpted on it. Dinobot also comes with 4 different faces for the robot (serious, smirking, smiling and growling); the latter one has clear eyes that can glow via an LED inside his head; a switch will allow the eyes to light up both in red and green. To complement the latter option, the figure also comes with an extra piece that represents Dinobot's eye beams. The light-up feature is fueled by two LR44 batteries (not included). The raptor head can also emote, but needs no extra pieces: a panel on top of the head can be flipped to replace the regular eyes with a second, narrower pair. A final accessory, a stand is formed by a 2-piece base that can be united in multiple directions, the regular arm and 3 extra attachments: one is to hook the Golden Disk onto the base, one is for Dinobot's robot mode and the last one is a cradle to place Dinobot's raptor mode on the stand. Much like the new ''Masterpiece Movie Series'' figures, Dinobot's robot mode mouth can open and close.

: Due to a [[design flaw]] on the initial release, moving Dinobot's robot shoulders through their normal outward range of motion carries a risk of breaking off a small ridge inside the ratchet joint due to an overly strong spring. Lubricating the joints with grease or dish soap can prevent the issue, and it was rectified on later releases with a weaker spring and slightly thicker ridge within the ratchet.

: Some Dinobot figures drain the battery power unusually fast, with some owners reporting that batteries died less than two days after installation and with minimal use.
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===''War for Cybertron: Kingdom''===
[[File:WFC-Kingdom Voyager Dinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Rattrap's "Dino-Butt" insult seems to have taken on a new meaning 25 years later.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Voyager Class, [[2021]])
**''Hasbro ID number'': '''WFC-K16'''
**''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''KD-08'''
**''TakaraTomy release date'': [[June 26]], 2021
**''Accessories'': "[[Cyber-slash tail weapon#Generations|Cyber slash tail weapon]]"<ref>[https://hasbropulse.com/products/transformers-generations-war-for-cybertron-kingdom-voyager-wfc-k18-dinobot "Tail detaches from raptor mode during conversion and becomes his Cyber Slash tail weapon and sword accessories."]</ref>, sword, Golden Disk card
{{toydesigner|[[Shogo Hasui]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Ken Christiansen]] (concept artist)}}

:Released to commemorate the 25th anniversary of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'', ''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom]]'' Dinobot is a Voyager Class-sized mold that transforms from a cartoon-accurate robot into a ''[[Jurassic Park]]''-accurate ''Velociraptor'' in 28 steps. His hands have a [[5 mm post|5 mm port]] that can hold both his weapons and can close to hold objects (for example: the Golden Disks associated with the [[Ark (G1)#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Titan Class Ark]]). He also has 5mm ports under his heels and one under his back-[[kibble]]. His tail can detach and split into two components: his Cyber Slash tail weapon, and his signature sword. The sword's tip is molded with the same texture as Dinobot's skin, presumably to better blend in as the tail tip in beast mode. Due to the Cyber Slash weapon connection, the sword cannot be held by other Transformers toys with traditional 5mm port hands. The Cyber Slash weapon can store in robot mode by attaching to the same port as beast mode. Much like most of the toyline, Dinobot comes with one of four possible holographic [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] cards for his wave, which reveals a [[Source:Golden Disk destinies|possible destiny]] of a key character, Dinobot being one of them. Dinobot's packaging labels him as a Predacon instead of a Maximal, though the toy itself has no faction symbols.

:The toy was announced using photos of the actual toy with no alterations, while his packaging's [[:File:Kingdomtoy-Dinobotpackaging.jpg|stock renders]] feature some different colors and are missing some transformation seamlines.

:Unfortunately, the [[Unpaintable plastic|nylon plastic]] used to mold Dinobot's forearms has been reported to [[Photodegradation|yellow]] over time, giving them a green-ish tint.

:Dinobot was later retooled as ''Kingdom'' [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Maximal Grimlock]].
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===''Buzzworthy Bumblebee''===
[[File:TF-Legacy-Buzzworthy-Bumblebee-Dinobot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|And I say, "Dinobot, you are ''bad guy'', but this does not mean you are bad ''guy''."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-m1|'''Heroic Maximal Dinobot''' (Voyager Class, [[2022]])}}</ul>
:*''Series'': ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]''
:*''Accessories'': Cyber-slash tail weapon, sword

: Part of the cross-franchise ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]]'' subline, "Heroic Maximal Dinobot" is a [[:File:BW-toy Dinobot.jpg|1996 toy-inspired]] redeco of the above ''Kingdom'' figure with [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Maximal Grimlock]]'s head sculpt.

: Like the above Kingdom figure, the nylon plastic used for various parts of Dinobot's body is prone to rapid yellowing, including while still in [[mint in sealed box|unopened packages]]. Despite the "Heroic Maximal" prefix, his instruction manual has a Predacon symbol before his name.

: As with other figures in its line, Heroic Maximal Dinobot was exclusive to [[Target]] in the United States.
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===''Legacy''===
A listing for a Core Class version of Dinobot was solicited for Legacy United as 'Tra Gen Legacy UNI Core BW Dinobot'.<ref>[https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/2025-generations-listings-united-wave-5-age-of-the-primes.1259609/]</ref> This figure got as far as being tooled, but due to the cancellation of the Core size class, plans to release during Legacy fell through.<ref>[https://tfwikicommunity.wordpress.com/2025/10/29/a-stampede-of-hooves-and-tires-my-saturday-with-the-hasbro-team-mcm-comic-con-25/l TFWiki community interview with Evan, 'Unreleased toys' section].</ref>
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===''Beast Wars Again''===
[[File:TF-BW-Again-JP-BWVS-06-Dinobot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|]]
*'''Gyakushin no Taiketsu''' ([[January 27]], [[2024]])
**''ID number'': '''BWVS-06'''
**''Accessories'': [[Cyber-slash tail weapon#Beast Wars Again|Cyber slash tail weapon]], sword
{{toydesigner|[[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Hidetsugu Yoshioka]] (packaging artist)}}

:Released as part of the ''[[Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers Again|Beast Wars Again]]'' line, the "Treacherous Showdown" (逆心の対決) set contains Dinobot and and [[Tarantulas (BW)/toys#Beast Wars Again|Tarans]]. Dinobot is a redeco of [[#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|''Kingdom'' Dinobot]] in more cartoon-accurate colors. He comes with an unpainted [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|''Voyager'' Golden Disk]] reused from the ''Masterpiece'' release.
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==Merchandise==
===''Beast Wars'' puzzle===
*'''Beast Wars Transformers 200 piece puzzle''' (puzzle, 1996)

:A [[Beast Wars Transformers Jigsaw Puzzle|200-piece puzzle]] from [[Milton Bradley]] featured art of Dinobot and [[Razorbeast]] fighting [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] and [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]. It was very chrome-foil-y! [http://tfmuseum.com/tf-00081.html]
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===Kabaya===
[[File:BWmerch-KabayaDinobotkit.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|Hope you like putting stickers over molded detail!]]
*'''Dinobot''' (candy toy model kit, 1997)

:Part of the second wave of [[Kabaya]] model kits (which included Cheetor, Rattrap, and Terrorsaur), Dinobot is a peg-together model kit. The parts come on pink and yellow sprues, plus there are stickers, instructions for assembly, and a stick of terrible gum. Transformation involves removing the tail, robot legs, and robot arms, and pegging them elsewhere as needed.
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[[File:BWmerch-KabayaDinobotfigurine.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Eat it, other [[Transformers Hall of Fame|Hall of Fame]] nominees! But don't eat the candy. Or raw chicken.]]

*'''Dinobot''' (candy toy, 1997)
:A tiny plastic Dinobot figurine molded onto an irregularly-shaped stand was released by Kabaya. Labeled toy 6 of 6, the other characters in his wave were Cheetor, Rattrap, Megatron, Optimus Primal, and Rhinox. They were also available in smokey translucent plastic? [http://tfmuseum.com/tf-01805.html] As always, terrible candy is included.
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*'''Dinobot''' (candy toy, 1997)
:A tiny superdeformed Dinobot was also available from Kabaya. It's way too adorable. [http://tfmuseum.com/tf-00714.html]
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===''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''===
[[File:Dinobotmutatingcard.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''' (1997)

:Dinobot was one of the 24 beast warriors to receive a battle card representation for the Beast Wars [[Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game|card game]].
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===First 4 Figures===
[[File:BWDinobot minibust.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Legs are for the weak.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (<s>2006</s> unreleased)
{{toydesigner|[[Ryan Bailey]] (sculptor){{fact}}}}

:First revealed in 2006 at both the UK<ref>[https://news.tfw2005.com/2006/01/25/first4figures-beast-wars-and-transformers-vs-g-i-joe-statuesbusts-4267 "First4Figures Beast Wars and Transformers VS. G.I. Joe Statues/Busts"] at TFW2005.com</ref> and New York [[Toy Fair]]s,<ref>[https://tformers.com/transformers-/5568/news.html "Toy Fair 2006 - First4Figures TF & GI Joe Statues& Busts"] at tformers.com</ref> this was to be a 7-inch tall resin bust of Dinobot released as part of a ''Beast Wars'' tenth anniversary series by model company [[First 4 Figures]]. Dinobot is depicted from waist upwards and mounted on a Maximal-themed pedestal, and is sculpted to be accurate to his ''Beast Wars'' cartoon design, including his sword.

:Mini busts in the planned ''Beast Wars'' line were designed to reflect the scale of the characters as seen in the cartoon, and each was set to be limited to 1,996 pieces, in a nod to the franchise's year of origin.<ref name=ASM>[https://web.archive.org/web/20070806062058/http://toyfair06.asmzine.com/first4figures/report.html "First4Figures Limited Transformers Statues and Busts Info!"] at ASMzine.com (archived)</ref> Dinobot was among the first intended to be released (likely the second, given the presence of finalised stock images but absence of a full product listing) in July 2006, though after a series of delays, he and the rest of the ''Beast Wars'' bust line were cancelled, with First 4 Figures citing a challenging marketplace and lack of retailer interest.
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===Prime 1 Studio===
[[File:Prime 1 Studio Premium Masterline Beast Wars Megatron.jpg|upright=1.11|thumb|]]
*'''Megatron''' (2017)
**''ID Number'': '''PMTFBW-02''' / '''02EX''' (exclusive)

:[[Prime 1 Studio]] ''Premium Masterline'' [[Megatron (BW)/toys#Prime 1 Studio|Megatron]] is a highly detailed statue of Megatron's robot mode posing over the bits of a destroyed Dinobot.
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===''ReAction''===
*'''Dinobot''' (2023)
**''Accessories'': Sword, cyber-slash tail weapon

: Released in the seventh wave of [[Super7]]'s line of multi-property 3.75-inch "retro" action figures, ''[[Super7#ReAction|ReAction]]'' Dinobot is a non-converting figure based on his [[Mainframe]] [[character model]], with 5 points of articulation (swivel neck, shoulders, hips).

: Dinobot comes packaged on a small cardback that mixes the design of the original ''Beast Wars'' packaging with some nostalgic elements resembling [[Kenner]]'s ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' action figures from the late 1970s to early '80s.
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==Notes==
*Dinobot's original toy was designed to supplant a failed lion Transformer counterpart to Cheetor that ended up being, understandably, too similar to Cheetor. A dinosaur's entry into the Maximals was justified by pointing out that the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] had been good guys in Generation 1.<ref>[http://obscuretf.com/hhk/BC04interviews.html Botcon 2004 Interview with Vinnie D'Alleva], p1-2</ref>
[[File:Dinobottoycommercial.jpg|thumb|An abandoned deco?]]
*In the first ''Beast Wars'' toy commercials, Dinobot had a slightly different deco than the final toy. He was browner, rather than pinker, and had thicker stripes.
*Some fans are inclined to yank off Dinobot's mutant mask pieces, since he doesn't have them on the television show, they get in the way during transformation, and they're easily removable. Ten years later, Hasbro thought so, too, in their stock photography for ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]'' Dinobot.
*Unlike many pairs of ''Beast Wars'' redecoes, Dinobot and Grimlock were both drawn with the same regular head in their Hasbro packaging art, rather than one having the mutant mask on for a distinctive contrast.
*An actual (i.e. non-McDonald's affiliated) Transmetal Dinobot apparently made it to concept art stages, but not much further. Several elements of the design were recycled for Transmetal [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]].
*Dinobot's toy curiously has six toes on each foot. Since his legs form his [[robot mode]] arms, not only does this mean he's left with two thumbs, but also a tiny, barely noticeable finger molded near his wrist. The double thumbs got carried over onto his animation model, yet his in-show beast mode appears to only have three toes. Between all this, it has to be said that real-life raptors had no more than four toes on each of their feet.
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==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:BWRConcept04.jpg|''Beast Wars'' Dinobot control art
File:TMDinobotConcept.jpg|Transmetal Dinobot concept art
</gallery>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Again]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]
[[Category:Beast Wars Telemocha Series]]
[[Category:BotCon exclusives]]
[[Category:Henkei! Henkei! Autobots]]
[[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]
[[Category:Kreons]]
[[Category:Legacy Maximals]]
[[Category:Masterpiece]]
[[Category:McDonald's exclusives]]
[[Category:Target exclusives]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Toys"R"Us exclusives]]
[[Category:Transmetals]]
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Kingdom Predacons]]

Talk:Superion (G1)

2025-10-01T21:47:11Z

Kadeo: AOTP Superion's

Can we get a new main image for Superion? The open mouth thing scan is better suited for the Dreamwave section of this page. I think something from the MTMTE profile books would do nicely, as well any well-drawn official modern image of him, to be honest. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:29, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
: It might have to be his boxart. There isn't any well-drawn official modern image of him that I'm aware of. Well, at least not any from the front where he's not getting his ass kicked by [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

::None of the UK covers had a decent shot of him?
::(I personally dislike Superion's boxart, I'd prefer... something else.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:42, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

:::His G1 boxart unfortunately kind of sucks, too. Didn't he get anything in DW's MTMTE? I found [http://www.squarecn.com/member/169336/6/superion.jpg this while trawling google]. It looks like it was drawn by Don Figueroa. Kinda Pat-Lee-puffy but not too bad. I couldn't figure out how to get rid of the watermark and wasn't sure of its legitimacy so I didn't use it. Any ideas? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:43, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
::::Definitely not Don. It's Pat Lee. (Or Rob Ruffolo on a good day, hard to tell.) ((As I said, no ''well-drawn'' official modern image of him that I'm aware of.)) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

::::Crap, why did I say Don? Especially when I said Pat Lee immediately afterwards? *slaps head* Oh well. Is it good enough for our usage? Otherwise we're stuck with rather bad G1 boxart, a well-drawn but bad angle of Superion from a Predaking poster, or G1 comic art that doesn't necessarily represent him correctly. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::I was hoping to avoid that art, but, okay, I guess. It's the least of several evils. (And as long as we don't use [http://www.tfw2005.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1294/size/big/cat/1084 this], I'm very fine!] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Man, Superion keeps getting screwed-over. He has a bad G1 toy. Bad boxart. He keeps getting his ass kicked in the cartoon. No good TF artist wants to draw a picture of him that isn't his back. Bad artists are all too eager to draw him. But like you said, its the lesser of the evils to use an okay Pat Lee-type drawing than a truly bad one. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:20, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

==Additional pic==

Extra Pat Lee pic. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 02:26, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

==Marvel Comics==
Anyone going to update this? I don't know much of anything about Superion in the G1 comics, much less how "angst angst angst" works into it, since that's like 50% of Furman's G1 character work anyway.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 00:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
::I'd've thought 'angst' was more the field of Silverbolt himself than his combined form with his teammates (and even then not by that much). --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 09:14, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

==Universe (2008)==
I once saw Superion in his universe packaging in the US. Strangely enough, it was at a ToysRus. Note that it was only one time, but he must have seen some US release. Maybe it was some kind of freak shipping accident on Hasbro's part?

==Generations Combiner Wars==
Replaced the stock Hasbro image, which was slightly mistransformed and kind of unflattering to the toy, with two of my own pics, which are freely given to TFWiki. You folks can go ahead and watermark them if you want to keep them. [[User:Smf2045|Smf2045]] ([[User talk:Smf2045|talk]]) 12:15, 13 July 2016 (EDT)

== Limb Positions ==

I actually became more active on here just for this; I'm that neurotic. Anyway, I redid the order so it matches both the cartoon and the toys. I don't know why they were previously (and horrendously, I might add) out of sinc with all of that. I hope I'm not stepping on any toes here. [[User:Banannixx|Banannixx]] ([[User talk:Banannixx|talk]]) 01:07, 15 October 2020 (EDT)

== AOTP 'arm cannon' functionality ==

AOTP Superion features square pegs on the arm (and square holes on the blaster), which, in addition to securing his blaster in the 5mm port on his fist, also allow the gun to be attached directly to the top of the arm like it's sometimes depicted (https://tfwiki.net/wiki/File:KTVS2_superion_vs_menasor.jpg). Worth noting? [[User:Kadeo|Kadeo]] ([[User talk:Kadeo|talk]]) 17:47, 1 October 2025 (EDT)

Triggerhappy (G1)

2025-05-07T17:49:24Z

Kadeo: /* The Transformers */ fixed typo 'Tagetmaster' to 'Targetmaster'

{{factions|decepticon|exarchon}}
{{disambig3|Triggerhappy}}
:''Triggerhappy is a [[Decepticon]] [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:G1Triggerhappy boxart.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|We cool, G? Eh? Eh? Alriiiight.]]
'''Triggerhappy''' is a nutball. You get them in the Decepticons from time to time. He's generally found [[Humanization|drooling]] and/or giggling wildly. He's been that way ever since an incident at [[Decepticon boot camp]], in which he was firing while surfing on his [[hoverboard]], but fell off and hit his head. He remained firing all the while and ended up disintegrating half a dozen other Decepticons. The camp commander was impressed and graduated Triggerhappy on the spot. Nobody is sure if it's an act or if he suffered [[processor]] damage in the fall. What is known is that he pays very little attention to where he's shooting but LOVES the sound his gun makes when fired. Good idea arming him there, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]].

Triggerhappy is [[Binary bonding|binary-bonded]] with [[Blowpipe (G1)|Blowpipe]], the conniving, envious brother-in-law of [[Nebulan]] leader [[Zarak (G1)|Zarak]].

{{bigquote|We probably shouldn't have shot him. I mean me. I shouldn't have shot him. Maybe. Right? Hard to say.|Triggerhappy reflects on casually shooting his ride, ''[[Rise of the Decepticons: Tremors|Tremors]]}}

==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Charlie Adler]] (English), [[Ken Narita]] (Japanese)|[[Georges Atlas]] (European French), [[Francis Lax]] (European French, supporting voice in "The Rebirth, Part 2")}}
[[File:TheRebirth1 TriggerhappySlugslinger.jpg|left|thumb|How is he supposed to drool when he doesn't have a mouth?]]
Triggerhappy was one of several Decepticon jets serving under [[Scourge (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Scourge]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cyclonus]] when they attacked [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] as part of a diversion while the Decepticon Clones stole the Key to the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]]. After Scourge successfully activated the chamber on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] (and inadvertently sent a shuttle full of Autobots and the key halfway across the galaxy), Triggerhappy, [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]], and [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]] were among the Decepticon unit sent to retrieve the key. Following the Autobots to [[Nebulos]], Triggerhappy attacked the Autobums, welcoming them to the scrapyard that they would become should he succeed in destroying them. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}}

Though the Decepticons managed to capture several Autobots, they were soon overwhelmed by new [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster technology]] the Autobots developed with the Nebulan rebels. After making a deal with the Hive, the Decepticons underwent [[binary bonding]] as well, and Triggerhappy was given a new partner who blows hard and fast. Armed with this new skill, Triggerhappy and his [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]] companions successfully helped reacquire the Chamber's key. While waiting for Zarak to complete modifications to [[Scorponok (G1)|his city]], Triggerhappy declared a possible gasket-blowing event was imminent should he be made to wait any longer. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 2}}

Triggerhappy and the other Targetmasters returned to Cybertron just in the nick of time to save Galvatron from the remainder of the Autobot forces. Galvatron was less than impressed by their new Hive partners, however, and addressed Triggerhappy directly when he berated them for letting organics inhabit their bodies, despite the fact Triggerhappy wasn't a Headmaster. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}
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===Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Michihiro Ikemizu]] (Japanese)}}
[[File:HM 30 Blowpipe bonded with Triggerhappy.jpg|thumb]]
Triggerhappy and his partners, Misfire and Slugslinger, were frequent opponents of the Autobot trio under [[Pointblank]]'s command. When all of them were engaged in combat over several space-faring denizens of planet [[Master (planet)|Master]], a massive explosion caught everyone off-guard. Triggerhappy and his partners and foes alike were transformed into Targetmasters, somehow fused together in pairs with each of the smaller Master Transformers by the explosion. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 1)}}

{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 2)}} {{storylink|The Master Sword Is in Danger!!}} {{storylink|The Zarak Shield Turns the Tide}} {{storylink|Operation: Destroy the Decepticons}} {{storylink|Duel on the Asteroid}} {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}}}

====''Legends'' comic====
As one of the Decepticons stationed on Earth in the 1980s, Triggerhappy participated in the battle for the [[Transform Super Cog]] where his crazed firing in random directions kept his allies staying far, far away. He fled into space following Slugslinger's failed attempt at usurping [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] as [[Decepticon leader]]. {{storylink|Slugslinger's Ambition}}

In [[2021]], Triggerhappy and the Decepticon Targetmasters fought for Scorponok when he sought to create [[plasma energy]] by detonating a [[black hole]], hoping the ensuing energy wave would let them bond with the Autobots' Targetmaster partners as well. Instead, the explosion shrunk their bodies and caused their partners to vanish. {{storylink|Targetmaster Chapter Prologue}} Like other victims, the Targetmasters converted their heads into small [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] bodies and traveled to the [[Legends World]], where they kidnapped [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] and forced him to use his [[10.2 ultra-drill|ultra-drill]] to teleport their Targetmaster partners to them. The partners were overloaded with plasma energy, however, forcing Trion to scatter them across the Legends World. {{storylink|Mutant Targetmaster Birth Chapter}}

Triggerhappy began running a shooting gallery to earn money for a [[transtector]], though his love for guns compelled him to help his customers shoot the targets, leaving him giving away the prizes. He was eventually approached by [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and asked for his help in capturing the supercharged Blowpipe, who was rampaging through [[Akihabara|Neo Akihabara City]]. Granted a transtector by the local police force, Triggerhappy subdued and regained Blowpipe, then agreed to work for the police force since the position allowed him to fire guns a lot. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 49|Bonus Edition Vol. 49}} He was charged with interrogating Misfire following the latter's arrest, but was disappointed in his comrade's aim and started teaching him how to shoot guns instead. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 52|Bonus Edition Vol. 52}} Triggerhappy later used Blowpipe's mutant ability to make a larger duplicate of the [[Repug Armor]] that could fit [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 53|Bonus Edition Vol. 53}}

Triggerhappy was touched by [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and [[Blurr (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blurr]]'s reunion at the police station, which distracted him from Blowpipe being stolen by the [[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]]. {{storylink|TF Legends Late Xmas Present Chapter|Late Xmas Present Chapter}} When Slugslinger got his hands on [[Caliburst (G1)|Caliburst]], he swiftly betrayed Triggerhappy and Misfire, knocking them out with [[anti-electron]]s and stealing their Targetmaster partners. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 55|Bonus Edition Vol. 55}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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[[File:Decepticon targetmasters brothers in armor.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4]]
Triggerhappy participated in a raid on an Autobot city on Cybertron, ending with its incineration. Several prisoners of war were captured by his squad, and Triggerhappy openly mocked the captives as they were marched towards their doom in the [[smelting pool]]. The procession was interrupted by an Autobot ambush led by [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]; the Decepticons were overwhelmed, and their commander, [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], ordered a retreat so that they might live to fight another day. {{storylink|Ring of Hate!}}

The Decepticons eventually managed to storm the Autobots' base, only to find it already evacuated. Though confused at first, they learned that their foes had fled to the planet [[Nebulos]]. Triggerhappy and the others made their way to the alien world, where they met with one of the locals, [[Zarak (G1)|Lord Zarak]], who enlisted them in ridding his planet of the Autobots. {{storylink|Broken Glass!}} ''During this meeting, Triggerhappy had to exert what little self-control he had to prevent himself from reducing the fleshy Nebulans to smoldering piles of ash with his [[photon-pulse gun]]s.'' {{storylink|Doomsday for Nebulos}} Learning that several of the Autobots were holed up in [[Koraja]], Triggerhappy participated in a full-scale assault on the city. In retaliation, Fortress Maximus and four other Autobots emerged, having underwent a [[binary bonding]] process. Thanks to the newfound power this upgrade afforded them, the Autobot [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] sent the Decepticons into a panicked retreat. {{storylink|Broken Glass!}}

After the Autobots also developed [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]] technology, the Decepticons managed to reverse-engineer the process, and had five of their own members binary bond their weapons to Nebulan partners. Triggerhappy was among those selected, with [[Blowpipe (G1)|Blowpipe]] becoming his pistol. He was put into action soon afterwards, as their Autobot prisoners managed to break free. Despite Triggerhappy's best efforts to shoot straight, the enemy soldiers escaped. {{storylink|Brothers in Armor!!}} ''After capturing the Autobot Targetmasters, Triggerhappy and the other Decepticons ambushed [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]], [[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] so that Scorponok could capture one of them to examine the Headmaster process more closely. However, while Scorponok busied himself studying Highbrow, the remaining Autobot Headmasters were able to free their Targetmaster comrades and turn the tables on the Decepticons.'' {{storylink|Worlds Apart!}}

[[File:Targetmasters final conflict.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6]]
''Thanks to a bug previously planted in the Autobots' headquarters, the Decepticons learned that their enemies had manufactured a fuel convertor that would allow them travel to [[Earth]]. They put together a plan to steal it. Triggerhappy, Slugslinger, and Misfire approached Fortress Maximus under the pretense that they had a message to deliver: Scorponok wanted to challenge him to a death match, and whoever emerged victorious would be declared triumphant in the greater conflict. Maximus accepted, unaware that the duel was merely a distraction. As it raged, Slugslinger snuck into Brainstorm's lab and made off with the fuel convertor. Once this was done, the duel came to a premature end, the Decepticons made their way off-world, and the Autobots were forced to follow.'' {{storylink|The Final Conflict}}

{{note|The events in this UK story differ in significant ways to the [[The Transformers: Headmasters|Headmasters]] mini-series.}}

Shortly afterwards the Decepticons left [[Nebulos]] and pursued the Autobots aboard the ''[[Steelhaven (G1)|Steelhaven]]'' to [[Earth]]. {{storylink|Brothers in Armor!!}}

''When Highbrow managed to decapitate Scorponok and escaped with his head, Triggerhappy was among several Decepticons who pursued, catching up to him just as he neared the Autobots' spaceship. As they forcefully retrieved their leader's head, the Decepticons witnessed several Autobots materialize from the future, leading to some infighting among the Autobots' ranks. Irritated over being left out of the battle, Scorponok's Decepticons were about to join in, only for the bulk of them to be temporarily shunted off to [[Limbo]] when [[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]]'s troops from the year [[2009]] arrived in [[1989]]. Triggerhappy was one of the few left behind. A tenuous alliance was then brokered between the Autobots and Decepticons from both eras in order to combat the more pressing threat of the super-Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. However, when [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ultra Magnus]] accidentally shot Scorponok while he was attacking Galvatron, Triggerhappy and the other Decepticons turned on the Autobot. While Optimus Prime dealt with the mad Galvatron, Triggerhappy and the other Decepticons carried their leader to safety.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}}

Scorponok was repaired, and next took his troops to meet with [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]'s Decepticons at their Arctic base. While Scorponok and a small entourage were receiving a guided tour of said base, they learned that Ratbat was purposely withholding information about the legendary [[Underbase]] from them. Enraged by the deceit, Scorponok stormed back towards his ship, where the rest of his troops were waiting, only for his path to be barred by Ratbat's cronies. Seeing this take place, Triggerhappy and [[Hun-Gurrr (G1)|Hun-Grr]] decided to lead their shipmates in an assault and come to Scorponok's aid. Decepticon clashed against Decepticon until those on both sides of this civil war came to realize that [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] had engineered the whole debacle to get to the Underbase himself. {{storylink|Cold War!}}

Starscream was in time defeated, and Triggerhappy continued to serve under Scorponok as he acquired leadership over all Earth-bound Decepticons. Following a distress signal issued by the [[Air Strike Patrol]], Scorponok led his minions into battle against Optimus Prime's Autobots within the [[MacDill Air Force Base]]. Strangely, Optimus called for all his troops to return to the Ark while he remained behind. Scorponok was suspicious, but wouldn't allow himself to pass up the opportunity to vanquish his enemy. Triggerhappy and the others rushed Optimus Prime as he tried to stop Scorponok from firing on the shuttlecraft, but Prime, who was quickly becoming frustrated with the day's events, was able to overpower all of them. As Optimus pleaded to Scorponok to stop fighting and determine the mastermind who was pulling their strings, they were interrupted by a huge hint: Starscream had arrived, reborn as a [[Pretender]]. {{storylink|All the Familiar Faces!}} Triggerhappy was among the first to fall to the new arrival's might, gunned down as Starscream proclaimed he was carrying out [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s will. {{storylink|Skin Deep}}

[[File:US69EyeofStorm.JPG|upright=1.66|thumb|left|"And you, stand up straight! You're making us all look uncivilized!"]]
Later during the war on Earth, Triggerhappy got sick of Scorponok's command, especially after he let that maniac Starscream back into the Decepticons. Triggerhappy couldn't stand working with Starscream, so he and [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] left Scorponok's Decepticons, only to ironically be strong-armed by Starscream himself into joining his and [[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]]'s auxiliary army, which also included [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]], [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]], and [[Ravage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ravage]]. {{storylink|Eye of the Storm}} Though Mindwipe was more vocal on the subject, Triggerhappy was clearly displeased with being forced into this new group. Shockwave made it clear that, should the pair not fight at their side, they would be terminated. As such, Triggerhappy joined in on an attack on Scorponok's [[New Jersey base]]. {{storylink|Surrender!}} The base was easily collapsed on itself, though this did little to assuage Triggerhappy and Mindwipe's fears that Scorponok may yet rise up to destroy them all. Pitying their cowardice, Starscream urged the others to help him dig out whatever survivors they may find, and offer them a choice: join them or be destroyed. Unfortunately, the first to be excavated was indeed Scorponok. Shockwave ordered Triggerhappy and the others to rush Scorponok, but the latter's ultra-dense armor proved invulnerable to their laser fire. Triggerhappy was easily tackled down by his opponent, who then moved on to duelling Shockwave in the nearby river. {{storylink|...All This and Civil War 2}}

The coup was interrupted when [[Primus]] summoned all the Transformers of Earth to Cybertron to do battle with [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|Out of Time!}} Triggerhappy and the other teleported Transformers witnessed Primus, speaking through the body of [[Emirate]] [[Xaaron]], tell the history of their supernatural war with the Dark God. {{storylink|The Void! (US)|The Void!}}

====''Regeneration One''====
{{NoteRG1}}
When Scorponok used the [[Gene Key]] to virtually conquer Cybertron, Triggerhappy was seen hunting for the dissident [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Four}}

====''Transformers '84''====
As part of the forces under [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s command, Triggerhappy took part in a bombing run against [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s troops after the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'' had been lost. {{storylink|Secrets & Lies issue 3|Secrets & Lies #3}}

===''The Headmasters'' comic===
[[File:HM issue 7 Decepticon Targetmasters.jpg|thumb]]
Triggerhappy and the Decepticon Targetmasters attempted to disrupt the Autobots' efforts to put out a blazing fire on Earth. The Autobots' split focus left them vulnerable, until the Battleship Maximus extinguished the entire fire in one sweep. [[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet]] and [[Artfire]] then turned their full attention on Triggerhappy and his allies, driving them from the scene. {{storylink|The Headmasters issue 7|The Headmasters #7}}

===''Transformers in 3-D''===
While [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] used his [[Nullification Cannon]] on Cybertron's [[energon]] suppliy, Triggerhappy was part of a team lead by [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]] that carried out a diversionary attack. Triggerhappy was punched out by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|The War Against the Destructons, Chapter 1 of 3}}

===Ladybird Books continuity===
Triggerhappy was among the Decepticons who traveled to [[Nebulos]] in search of energy. When they discovered a wealth of cosmic energy at the pole, Triggerhappy reminded [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]] that if used it to kill all the Autobots, they wouldn't have anyone to fight. When their energy collection attempt required them to move [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] to the pole, the Autobots melted the ice under their base, causing it to sink. {{storylink|Decepticons at the Pole}}

===Toy pack-in material===
When Optimus became stranded on Cybertron's hemisphere of darkness with his memory damaged, Triggerhappy joined a small strike force of Decepticons called S.T.O.P. ([[Seek and Terminate Optimus Prime]]) to either destroy or recruit the amnesic Autobot leader. {{Storylink|Optimus Prime Is Back}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Stormbringer issue 4|''Stormbringer'' #4]]}}
[[File:Blot and Triggerhappy The End of the Beginning of the World.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|left]]
Triggerhappy was part of the crew of the ''[[Thanatos]]'', commanded by [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]] and the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. He begrudgingly gave aid to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] and the [[Wreckers]] while battling [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] in order to preserve their home planet of Cybertron and show the Autobots how war was really done. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 4|Stormbringer #4}}

Much later, Triggerhappy appeared among the Decepticons imprisoned on Cybertron after the war with [[D-Void]]. {{storylink|The Autonomy Lesson (issue)|The Autonomy Lesson}} Triggerhappy was part of an angry Decepticon crowd who demanded answers from the Autobots for [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]'s death. {{storylink|Stick Together}} He joined up with [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]], who was trying to lead the Decepticons back into war, only to be killed by [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] while guarding their base. {{storylink|The End of the Beginning of the World}}
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===''United''===
[[File:FierceFightingOnPlanetNebulos-StraxusDecepticons.jpg|thumb]]
A [[nano-virus]] that afflicted most Autobots save the [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]] and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] required [[Ricochet (Headmasters)|Ricochet]] to lead a team to [[Nebulos]] for an anti-virus. However, the nano-virus was merely a ploy by the Decepticons to draw out the Targetmasters and Headmasters to abduct their [[Nebulan]] partners, so when the Autobots arrived on Nebulos, Triggerhappy and several other Decepticons were waiting for them! Triggerhappy and the others quickly fell into disarray, unfortunately, when their leader Straxus was singled out and defeated. {{storylink|The Fierce Fighting on Planet Nebulos}}

===''TransTech''===
During the conflict between the [[Screaming Eagles]] and [[S.K.A.R.]] in [[Primax 806.30 Gamma]], Triggerhappy's Targetmaster partner was the human arms-dealer [[Rampage (G.I. Joe)|Rampage]], using technology derived from the old [[I.R.O.N.|I.R.O.N. Army]]. The Decepticons and their human allies were ultimately defeated by [[Sgt. Savage]]'s Screaming Eagles and the Autobots. {{storylink|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News Reporter|Andromeda - Axiom Nexus News, 2016/05/01}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[The Change In Your Nature Part Three|''Transformers'' #15]] (mentioned); [[Rise of the Decepticons: Tremors|#21]] (full)}}

[[File:Tremors-Triggerhappy.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.5|”Say my name”.{{-}} “You’re Triggerhappy”.{{-}} “You’re god damn right!”]]
Once exiled from Cybertron, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] found Triggerhappy and brought him home to join [[The Rise]], a terrorist cell devoted to destabilizing society as part of the [[Decepticon|Ascenticon]] cause. Violent and unstable, Shockwave identified him as one of the true "maniacs" under his command. {{storylink|The Change In Your Nature Part Three}}

[[Rage (G1)|Rage]] was forced into the task of transporting Triggerhappy along with [[Quake (G1)|Quake]], [[Fangry (G1)|Fangry]], [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] inside [[Roughstuff]]'s trailer to another remote base before a groundquake hit sent them falling into a chasm. As Rage tried to get the situation under control, Triggerhappy made a nuisance of himself by shooting Roughstuff and denying them their only way back out. When Frenzy spotted a group of geologists spying on them, Triggerhappy was the first to confront them and shot [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] when the geologist didn't say his name, as the geologist had never ''met'' Triggerhappy before. He kept himself busy by dodging [[Landmine (G1)|Landmine]] until [[Firestar (G1)|Novastar]]'s new counterterrorism team arrived to stop them, then promptly flew away before [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] could catch up. {{storylink|Rise of the Decepticons: Tremors|Tremors}}

====Alternate future====

In the dark future ruled by [[Exarchon]], Triggerhappy fought for the Threefold Spark. He remained obsessed with getting people to say his name, prompting the rebel [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] to finally shut him up by calling him—and rendering him -- "Headless". {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Test Flight II}}
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==Commercial appearances==
*When the Transformers' war resumed its course on [[Nebulos|Nebulon]], Triggerhappy could be seen fighting alongside his fellow Decepticon [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]] against their Autobot counterparts, while [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] grappled in the distance. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Headmaster comic book|Headmaster comic book commercial}}
*Triggerhappy and [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] battled [[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] and [[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]] in the middle of a mechanical city. Triggerhappy strafed Sureshot from above until the Autobot transformed into robot mode and began firing back. Triggerhappy mirrored Sureshot's actions, leading to Sureshot tackling Triggerhappy and both combatants losing grip on their guns. Triggerhappy and Sureshot continued to grapple while their guns transformed and did the same. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Targetmasters|Targetmasters commercial}}

==Games==
===''The Transformers'' (PS2)===
{{Note|Triggerhappy is a non-playable character. He appears among the legion of Decepticon duplicates in the Autobot campaign.}}
{{storylink|The Transformers (PS2)|The Transformers}}

===''Transformers Legends''===
Triggerhappy was caught up in a [[Quintesson]] plot to disrupt the [[Galactic Olympics|Galactic Games]]. {{storylink|The Galactic Games}}

===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
[[File:EW-Triggerhappy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]

Triggerhappy arrived on Earth at the same time as [[Six-Gun|Sixgun]]. {{Storylink|Bullet Storm}}
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==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
[[File:G1-toy Triggerhappy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Got an AK-47, well, you know it makes me feel all right!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Triggerhappy''' (Targetmaster, [[1987]])}}</ul>
:*''Takara name'': '''Triggerharpy'''
:*''Takara ID number'': '''D-88'''
:*''Accessories'': "[[Blowpipe (G1)#Toys|Blowpipe]]" Targetmaster partner/"[[Compression cannon|Compressed Air Cannon]]"
{{toydesigner|[[Richard Marcej]] (packaging)}}

: Released in the fourth year of Hasbro's US ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' toyline (third year in Europe and in Takara's ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'' line), Targetmaster Triggerhappy transforms into a blue Cybertronic fighter craft with large, dual off-white cannons on either side his body and four wing-mounted thrusters, making him look kinda-sorta-vaguely like an [[X-wing Fighter]] from ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]''. His large fighter cannons swing up to the sides of his arms in [[robot mode]], but the hinges aren't strong enough to deal with their weight, so they have a tendency to flop down. This does, though, give him some sweet blasters for arms, which he'd probably appreciate.

: His Targetmaster partner, Blowpipe, can be stored in a socket on the rear of the fighter, just in front of where his head is stored.

: Like the other Targetmasters, the Takara release of "Triggerharpy" lacks a [[rubsign]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1987/Decepticon/Triggerhappy/triggerhappy.htm More information on Triggerhappy (with Blowpipe) at TFU.info]''
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===''Titans Return''===
[[File:TF-Generations-Titans-Return-Deluxe-Triggerhappy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"Mr. Triggerhappy, not every situation requires your patented approach of shoot first, shoot later, shoot some more and then when everybody's dead try to ask a question or two."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Blowpipe & Triggerhappy''' (Deluxe Class, [[2016]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': "Blowpipe" Titan Master, 2 blaster weapons.
{{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] (Hasbro)}}

: Part of the third wave of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' Deluxes, Triggerhappy transforms into a Cybertronian starfighter of pretty similar design to his original toy, just a lot sleeker. He has [[5 mm post]] holes on the underside of his wings and the inside of his built-in non-firing blasters, accessible in robot mode. The holes on his shoulders can also accept 5mm posts, but are covered by his wings or blasters in both modes. Like most ''Titans Return'' figures, he has a port for a generic pose/flight stand on his backside. Triggerhappy's transformation is surprisingly complex compared to most ''Titans Return'' Deluxe figures, with most of the parts shifting by way of swivels that rotate the entire body in multiple directions.

: His robot head (which now sports his animation/comic model faceplate) is formed by his [[Titan Master]] partner, [[Blowpipe (G1)#Titans Return|Blowpipe]], who can sit inside Triggerhappy's cockpit when the larger robot is in jet mode. Blowpipe can also sit in the gap formed when Triggerhappy's two blasters are combined into a super-weapon (which ends up looking a lot like the original Blowpipe's gun mode). Unlike most Deluxe and larger figures, however, there does not appear to be a way to mount the combined weapon in vehicle mode that doesn't severely unbalance it. Despite coming with a pair of guns, most official pictures, such as the one on his box, only show his vehicle mode with one attached gun.

:Triggerhappy was [[retool]]ed with a new head into [[Metalhawk (G1)#Titans Return|Metalhawk]]. His legs were also used for [[Misfire (G1)#Titans Return|Misfire]] and [[Slugslinger (G1)#Titans Return|Slugslinger]], who are otherwise completely new figures from the crotch up. The elements that became Misfire were then even further modified into ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Sonic Bomber (G1)#Legends|Sonic Bomber]].
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===''Legends''===
[[File:LG49-Triggerhappy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|No, world, you put ''your'' hands up!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Targetmaster Triggerharpy (Targetmaster Triggerhappy)''' (Deluxe Class, [[2017]])}}</ul>
:*''ID number'': '''LG49'''
:*''Release date'': [[October 28]], 2017
:*''Accessories:'' Headmaster unit, "[[Blowpipe (G1)#Legends|Blowpipe]]" Targetmaster

: Released in the twenty-second wave of TakaraTomy's ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' toyline, "Targetmaster Triggerharpy" is a [[redeco]] and slight [[retool]] of the above ''Titans Return'' mold. The most important change is the new 5 mm port on his chest where his [[Decepticon]] insignia used to be, giving his newly-molded [[Blowpipe (G1)#Legends|Blowpipe]] Targetmaster a centered place to mount on Triggerharpy's jet mode.

: Since he now has the Targetmaster partner, he does not include the guns from the original Hasbro release.
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==Merchandise==
===Transformers Trading Card Game===
[[File:W3RaiderTriggerhappy.jpg|thumb]]
*'''Raider Triggerhappy, Air Force-Gunner''' (2019)
**'''Wave 3: War for Cybertron: Siege I'''
**''Rarity: '''''UT'''
**''Card Number: '''''T39/T48'''
**''Stars: ''8

:Raider Triggerhappy, Air Force-Gunner is one of forty-eight double-sided character cards available in Wave 3 of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]], War for Cybertron: Siege I.

:The card's art reuses line-art from the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' mobile game. The artwork is recolored seemingly to match the aesthetic of the ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' toyline's packaging art.
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==Notes==
[[File:Triggerhappy heads.JPG|thumb|The guy on the left went on to {{w|Shredder (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles)|bigger and better}} things]]
[[File:Hasbro1988CatTriggerhappy.jpg|thumb|Blasthappy? Triggerblast?]]
*For some reason Triggerhappy's [[character model]] in the comics and cartoon differs from that of his toy and [[package art]]. He has a [[Mouthplate|faceplate]] in his fictional appearances, and normal eyes, giving him a ninja-like face. His toy features a normal face with comic-[[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]]-style "shades".
*The 1987 and 1988 North American [[catalog]]s featuring Triggerhappy depict him using a non-final toy—one whose head is blatantly a hand-painted copy of [[Blaster (G1)/toys|Blaster]]'s!

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Triggerharpy''' (トリガーハーピー ''Torigāhāpī''),<ref>Triggerhappy's name in classic Japanese Generation 1 media inexplicably is not a plain adaptation of "happy" but rather "harpy". Given that Misfire and Slugslinger's names experienced no changes in localisation, "Triggerharpy" may be the result of a typo or misreading being carried forward.</ref> '''Triggerhappy''' (トリガーハッピー ''Torigāhappī'')
*''French:'' '''Déclic''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Efestus'''
*''Mandarin:'' '''Bānjī''' (China, 扳机, "Trigger")
*''Hungarian:'' '''Lődöző''' ("who shoots a lot in a short time", different form of "lövöldöző")

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Generation 1 cartoon Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toy Decepticons]]
[[Category:Gunners]]
[[Category:Headmasters]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Decepticons]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Decepticons]]
[[Category:Legends Decepticons]]
[[Category:Marvel Generation 1 Decepticons]]
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Bruticus (G1)

2025-04-11T17:45:21Z

Kadeo: /* Energon Universe */ removed spoiler tag

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:''Bruticus is a [[Decepticon]] [[combiner]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:Bruticusg1guido.jpg|upright=2.3|thumb|''They all combine and kick Superion's behind'' ''As the big, bad, battlin' Bruticus!'']]
'''Bruticus''' is the combined form of the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] team. A terrifying sight on the battlefield, Bruticus is among the strongest of all Transformers. He can pulverize a suspension bridge with a single 14,000 psi punch. He can lift up to 500,000 pounds. His armor is impervious to most artillery and radiation.

He's also as dumb as a sack of hammers. But as far as Decepticon combiners go, [[Devastator (G1)|mental]] [[Menasor (G1)|problems]] [[Abominus (G1)|aren't terribly]] [[Dinoking|uncommon]]. In fact, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] wishes that he had an army of Bruticuses, and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] is thankful that he doesn't.

Bruticus is composed of:

*[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] (torso)
*[[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] (left arm)
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] (left leg)
*[[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] (right arm)
*[[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (right leg)

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Roger C. Carmel]] (English), [[Yū Shimaka|Yutaka Shimaka]] (Japanese) |[[Lin Dongfu]] (Chinese), [[Edgar Wald]] (Spanish), [[Thomas Rau]] (German, "Fight or Flee", "The Burden Hardest to Bear"), [[Thomas Albus]] (German, ''Generation 2'' "Starscream's Brigade", "The Revenge of Bruticus"), [[Willy Schäfer]] (German, ''Generation 2'', "Fight or Flee"), [[Serge Lhorca]] (European French), [[Georges Atlas]] (European French, "Aerial Assault"), [[Marcos Miranda]] (Portuguese), [[Ayrton Cardoso]] (Portuguese, "Fight or Flee")}}

[[File:Starscreamsbrigade megatron grabbed.jpg|160px|left|thumb]]
Bruticus became active for the first time during a battle between [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s rogue Decepticon brigade and Megatron's forces. Anticipating [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s expected moves, he waited for his former leader to order the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] to merge into [[Devastator (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Devastator]]. Starscream then unleashed his surprise—he similarly ordered the Combaticons to form the mighty Bruticus. Though extremely low in intelligence, even by the standards of combined robots, he was also extremely powerful, easily defeating Devastator and sending the remaining Decepticons loyal to Megatron into retreat. Unfortunately, the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] arrived and formed [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], who launched an attack from behind, quickly subduing Bruticus. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}

[[File:Bruticus cartoon.jpg|thumb|"Bruticus crush... Bruticus destroy human who draw Bruticus wrong!"]]
Starscream and the Combaticons were banished from [[Earth]] on an asteroid, and the group quickly had a falling-out. After Starscream left, the Combaticons attacked [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], easily defeating [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and his drones. Thirsting for revenge, the Combaticons reprogrammed the [[space bridge]] to pull Earth closer to the Sun, in the hopes of destroying it and every Transformer there. The Autobots and Decepticons temporarily joined forces to retake Cybertron and prevent Earth's destruction, and with Starscream's help, they deactivated the Combaticons once they formed Bruticus through a failsafe device built into the treacherous giant's back. [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and Megatron agreed that Bruticus must be destroyed, but the Decepticon leader fooled the Autobots by using Shockwave's holographic simulator to make it appear as though Bruticus was destroyed, when in reality the combiner was reprogrammed to be loyal only to Megatron. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}}

[[File:Revenge of bruticus 2 threratenShockwave.jpg|left|thumb|"Bruticus want be drawn proper!"]]
Soon afterwards, during Megatron's latest scheme on Earth involving the theft of fighter aircraft using Middle-Eastern criminals, the Combaticons were called into service to defend Megatron's [[Giant Purple Griffin]], a large... thing that apparently pumped oil. Or something. Struggling against the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], the Combaticons formed Bruticus, yet were still knocked over when the Autobot planes twisted a tow cable around his legs. The Decepticon combiner was finally defeated when the Aerialbots ignited the nearby oil wells, causing a massive explosion that sent Megatron, [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and Bruticus flying away. {{storylink|Aerial Assault}}

Later, Bruticus was walking down the street, minding his own business (i.e. attacking a human city) when BAM! Bruticus was destroyed in battle with [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (man, this guy can't seem to catch a break). Only Swindle survived, and he sold the remains of his comrades to various mercenaries and [[El Presidente|third-world dictator-types]], only to be forced to locate and rebuild the Combaticons by Megatron. The reformed Bruticus was then defeated when Megatron's [[orbit disruptor cannon]] was overloaded by the human-built [[B.O.T. (G1)|B.O.T.]], once again sending the Decepticon flying into the sky. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

[[File:Revenge of bruticus 16 brains.jpg|left|thumb|"See! Bruticus head not empty!"]]
For some reason, in the year 2006 the Combaticons were idly hanging around as Bruticus during the Decepticon occupation of [[Paradron]]. He served as something of a comic foil for [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]], acting as straight-man while Galvatron delivered witticisms that were completely lost on the giant warrior. Also... that old line about "losing your head if you weren't attached to it"? Apparently, you can lose a foot even if it was attached, because [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] was manning a molecular cannon while Bruticus was in the control room with Galvatron. If you don't watch those feet, they just run right off on their own. {{storylink|Fight or Flee (episode)|Fight or Flee}}

During a Decepticon invasion of Japan, Bruticus was battling Defensor near a dojo. He enraged his opponent by negligently putting the humans in danger with their combat and, once [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] arrived to back up Defensor, Bruticus split into the individual Combaticons and fled. {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}}

Invading [[Gregory Swofford|Swofford]] and [[Mark Morgan|Morgan]]'s lab, Bruticus was the first Decepticon infected by the [[Hate Plague]]. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}
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====Japanese cartoon continuity====
=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' story pages=====
Bruticus and Menasor were defeated in battle with Defensor and the Aerialbots. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (story page)|F!SRLT #13}}

=====Scramble City=====
{{voiceactor|[[Yū Shimaka]] (Japanese)}}

[[File:SCcelMenSupBrut.jpg|thumb|Et tu, Bruticus?]]
In 1986, the Autobots and their human allies worked diligently on their "Scramble City" project, a giant mobile fortress. Several Decepticons under the command of Starscream were dispatched to attack the secret construction site, but were defeated by the Aerialbots. Due to Starscream's failure to stop the Aerialbots, the Stunticons were quickly sent in, and soon in the battle formed Menasor. Menasor managed to corrupt Superion's formation by shooting one of ''his own'' limbs onto his opponent, rendering Superion vulnerable. However, he was soon stopped, and Superion regained his balance. Eventually, the Combaticons came in to help Menasor (though not willingly), forming Bruticus. The two tag-teamed against Superion, but were both stopped when [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City itself]] was brought into battle to end the conflict. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}

=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
{{voiceactor|[[Michitaka Kobayashi]] (Japanese), [[Ryōichi Tanaka]] (Japanese, ep 13)}}

[[File:HeadOn RaidenVsBruticus.JPG|left|thumb|"Bruticus duel with light... poles."]]
Bruticus joined up with several other Decepticon combiners during a Decepticon assault on Cybertron, {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} but they were all driven away by [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} When the Combaticons were sent out to stop [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] from finding the [[Matrix of Leadership]], they clashed with the Protectobots again. Both teams combined, but Defensor eventually blasted the mountain behind Bruticus, who was buried in the ensuing rockfall. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}} While defending [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] against intruders, the Combaticons formed Bruticus to fight back against the incoming [[Superion (G1)|Superion]]. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}

Bruticus scuffled with Defensor yet again during a new attack on Cybertron, {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} but was defeated by a flying punch to the neck. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}} Next up, Bruticus was set with ambushing any Autobots who came to stop [[buridanka|a giant carnivorous plant]] planted by the Decepticons in [[San Francisco]]. When the [[Trainbot]]s arrived, Bruticus and [[Raiden]] did battle with energy swords. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}}

[[File:Hm35 Bruticus holding Computron.jpg|thumb]]
Bruticus was formed by the Combaticons as part of Sixshot's major strike on Earth. He attacked an Autobot outpost as four other outposts were being assaulted simultaneously by the other Decepticons. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}}

On the planet [[Master (planet)|Master]], Bruticus later helped a group of Decepticons lead Fortress Maximus away from their base. {{storylink|The Zarak Shield Turns the Tide}} Later, back on Earth, he stood by and laughed as [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] sank the luxury liner ''[[Queen World]]'' off the coast of Lisbon, Portugal. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} Bruticus participated in the large-scale battle with the Autobots at the North Pole, and held down [[Computron (G1)|Computron]] so [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] could kick him. When [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s energy-absorbing satellite started tearing the Earth apart, Bruticus retreated into the atmosphere to watch the results alongside the rest of the Decepticon forces. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}

=====''Zone'' cartoon=====
{{voiceactor|[[Yukimasa Kishino]] (Japanese)}}

Over fifteen years later, after several more Decepticon leaders had come and gone, the faction came under the rulership of the supernatural entity [[Violengiguar]]. This mysterious creature's first action was to recruit a team of [[Nine Great Demon Generals]] from Decepticon history; Bruticus was enlisted as his "Flame General" and outfitted with new armor and weaponry to make him even more powerful than before. Seeking to create a [[Decepticon Zone]] to counter the [[Micro|Autobot Zone]], Violengiguar sent his generals forth to conquer planets. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 1}} Bruticus was the first to encounter the [[Autobot]]s when he attacked the planet [[Feminia]]. He was defeated by the combined might of the [[Rescue Patrol Team]], [[Super Car Patrol Team]], [[Battle Patrol|Battle Patrol Team]], [[Galaxy Rocket]] and [[Moonradar (G1)|Moonradar]]. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 2}}

The Generals later schooled [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]] and the [[Metrosquad]] in the ways of evil, making them more than formidable foes for the Powered Masters. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 7}}

Bruticus did little with the new power Violengiguar gave him; while he joined Abominus, Menasor, and Overlord on a raid for [[Energon Z]] on planet [[Micro|Zone]], he was not seen to engage in battle at any time. His comrades waded through the barrage of firepower unleashed by Zone Base, fending off attacks by the Micromasters, and tore the Energon Z power core out of the base. Bruticus then joined his comrades in escaping with their prize, which they handed off to the other generals to take to Earth as they searched for the Zodiac there. {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}

=====''Legends'' comic=====
When the [[Cybertron Alliance]] fell apart due to the [[human]]s murdering [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s [[Kiloton|friend]], Bruticus answered Megatron's call for war. {{Storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Metroplex)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}

=====''Generations Selects Special Comic''=====
In [[2050]], Bruticus and the Decepticons joined the revolution of the [[Selector]]s against their human masters. The [[Quintesson]]s and the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcon]]s sided with the humans, and [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] attacked all while craving Angolmois Energy. In battle with a scrambled version of [[Computron (G1)|Computron]], Abominus crashed into Bruticus and Menasor and stole some of their limb components to make an even stronger version of himself. {{storylink|Abominus comic 2}}

====''TV Magazine'' comic continuity====
=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====
When Superion and Defensor teamed up to take on Menasor as he was attacking a baseball stadium, Bruticus stepped in to aid his fellow Decepticon combiner. After a short skirmish, the Decepticons seemed assured a victory, until Bruticus got his legs knocked off. [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] and [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] then latched onto the stumps and blasted Bruticus away, dumping him in the Pacific Ocean, far away from Japan. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #5}}

The Combaticons pursued a dog imbued with Decepticon super-science until [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] interfered. They combined into Bruticus as a unit of Autobot [[Mini Vehicle|Minibots]] came to aid Powerglide, but the dog granted the awesome energy within it to Powerglide, allowing him to [[Minibot combiner|combine with the other Autobots]] and blow Bruticus away. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 8|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #8}}

=====''The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers''=====
In the year [[2010]], Bruticus participated in a Decepticon attack on the planet Feminia, battling alongside Devastator and Menasor against their Autobot counterparts Superion, Defensor and Omega Supreme. The fight was fairly evenly matched until Galvatron called up his ace-in-the-hole, [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]], whose power was unmatched by any of the Autobots... except for the [[Omnibot (G1)|Omnibots]], who essentially tied Predaking's shoelaces together until he fell over, straight into Bruticus and his chums, sending them all toppling to the ground and knocking them to bits.{{storylink|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 5|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers #5}}

=====''The Great Transformer War''=====
After tearing Superion into his component Aerialbots, the Combaticons merged into Bruticus and joined Menasor in defending [[Trypticon (G1)|Dinobase]] against incursion by the Protectobots. While his men kept the pair busy, [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] used his repair bay mode to fix up the injured Aerialbots, who then blinded the giants with their dazzling "Scramble Shot" fly-by attack. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1|The Great Transformer War #1}}

=====''Zone'' comic=====
[[File:BruticusZone1.jpg|thumb|"Bruticus finally drawn right... with fire."]]
The Decepticons came under the rulership of the supernatural entity [[Violengiguar]]. This mysterious creature's first action was to recruit a team of [[Nine Great Demon Generals]] from Decepticon history; Bruticus was enlisted as his "Flame General" and outfitted with new armor and weaponry to make him even more powerful than before. Seeking to create a [[Decepticon Zone]] to counter the [[Micro|Autobot Zone]], Violengiguar sent his generals forth to conquer planets. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 1}} Bruticus was the first to encounter the [[Autobot]]s when he attacked the planet [[Feminia]]. He was defeated by the combined might of the [[Rescue Patrol Team]], [[Super Car Patrol Team]], [[Battle Patrol|Battle Patrol Team]], [[Galaxy Rocket]] and [[Moonradar (G1)|Moonradar]]. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 2}}

The Generals later schooled [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]] and the [[Metrosquad]] in the ways of evil, making them more than formidable foes for the Powered Masters. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 7}}

The [[Nine Great Demon Generals]] united to attack planet Feminia, destroying it utterly. Violengiguar next charged his Generals with collecting [[Energon Z]] and the all-powerful [[Zodiac]], which he intended to use to fuel his conquest. Bruticus, together with [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]], [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], and [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]], attacked planet Zone; striking quickly, they stole the Energon Z before the local [[Micromaster]] teams could even muster a defense. As they gloated over their success, the tiny Autobots transformed [[Zone Base]] to try and mount a counterattack, and the generals fled with their prize. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (manga)|Zone}}
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====''The Animated Movie''====
[[File:TAM TPB Gestalt Fight.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4]]
During the [[Battle of Autobot City]] in 2005, Bruticus and Menasor staged an attack on [[Ark (G1)|Autobot Headquarters]], occupying the attentions of Omega Supreme, Superion, and Defensor and preventing them from coming to the aid of their comrades in the besieged city. {{storylink|Transformers: The Animated Movie|The Animated Movie trade paperback}}
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====''Wings Universe''====
{{Wingsnote}}
[[File:ComingStorm5-Bruticus.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.1|awww tell us how you REALLY feel]]

Combination technology was something the [[Decepticon Warlord]] [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]] had long tinkered with, since the days of his fortress in [[Gygax]]. Although his early experiments were discontinued thanks to the [[Elite Guard|Autobot Elite Guard]], he remained interested in the idea, and eventually found the perfect means to implement it. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 36|Bruticus's profile in Club magazine #36}}

When the Combaticons were swayed to joining forces with Deathsaurus they received various upgrades. They demonstrated the most potent of these upgrades when they were surrounded by their former comrades in the Elite Guard and combined into Bruticus. The combiner then proceeded to crush their former commanding officer Sentinel Major with one mighty hand. This prompted the other Elite Guardsmen to attack in search of vengeance. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 5}}

Tragically for the Guard, Bruticus proved to be virtually unstoppable and easily wiped out several of the Elite Guard teams before [[Metalhawk (G1)|Metalhawk]]'s Strike Team arrived. Despite the heroic efforts of [[Ironfist (G1)|Ironfist]] and [[Over-Run (G1)|Over-Run]], Bruticus quickly slew them before [[Dion (G1)|Dion]] managed to blind the mighty combiner and force him to separate. This forced the Combaticons to retreat, but not before killing Metalhawk as well. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 6}}

The Combaticons underwent repairs at Deathsaurus's base, but shocked to learn that the repairs included a remote activation for their combination into Bruticus. The combiner, confused and still blinded from his battle, lashed out at the Constructicons repairing him, and they were forced to use the override they'd fitted to stop the giant in his tracks. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 1}} {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} During the battle to defend the base against the Elite Guard, the Combaticons again attempted to form Bruticus, only to be promptly blasted. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}
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===Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics===
{{noteukonly}}
[[File:Bruticus-ukcard.jpg|upright=0.95|thumb|"Where Bruticus helmet go?"]]
''In a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-induced vision, [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] saw the future, where Autobot and Decepticon [[Special Teams]] battled over the [[Pullen Power Plant]]. One such team was the Combaticons, who merged into the massive warrior, Bruticus. Unfortunately for the Autobots, [[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]] managed to tap into this induced dream, allowing the Decepticons to see the same possibilities the Autobots did.'' {{storylink|Second Generation!}} {{storylink|The Special Teams Have Arrived}}

[[File:G1 Child'sPlay Defensor.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.7|"Bruticus DESTROY hobo's home!"]]
Megatron and the Combaticons invaded [[Energy Futures Industries]] with the intent of stealing the powerful [[hydrothermocline]]. Confronted by Optimus Prime and the Protectobots, Megatron attempted to prove the superiority of his forces by ordering them to combine into... Bruticus! His gloating was cut short, however, when the Protectobots demonstrated the equally impressive ability to combine into... [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]! Fortunately for all sides, the fleshling [[Ethan Zachary]] arrived with a solution that didn't involve Bruticus and Defensor going at it until the entire complex (and the hydrothermocline) was annihilated. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}} ''These events were observed by the [[time travel]]ling [[Dicet Alpha-zero]].'' {{storylink|The Quest!}}

The Combaticons formed Bruticus in a northern [[California]] railyard to battle the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]], who subsequently formed [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]. The two soon battled to a standstill, as Bruticus's sonic stun gun proved no match for Defensor's force field, but the Decepticon eventually managed to topple his foe by smacking him around with an ''entire train''. Bruticus then noticed [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], who claimed to have left the [[Autobot]]s, and seemingly killed [[Sammy Wainwright|a child]] to prove it. Bruticus was so impressed that he didn't notice Blaster toppling a power line on him, blasting him into his component parts. {{storylink|Child's Play (issue)|Child's Play}}
{{--}}

===The Special Teams===
Upon the Combaticons’ creation, Bruticus was imbued with Starscream's violent, criminal personality. When the Combaticons encountered Menasor and Defensor battling one another after being sent to the [[Pullen Power Plant]], Onslaught ordered to rest of his team to merge with him to form Bruticus. Bruticus was then urged by Menasor to aid him in taking down Defensor before the Aerialbots got a chance to merge into their combined formed as well. The opening was lost as the Aerialbots combined immediately, and stood next to Defensor, ready to take on their opponents. Bruticus took on Defensor while Menasor squared off against Superion. Bruticus was defeated by Defensor when he become momentarily distracted by Menasor mid-battle. {{storylink|The Special Teams}}

===Toy pack-in material===
Bruticus participated in a tumultuous battle on a moon base. He and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] shot at [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] as they entered the conflict. {{storylink|Decipher the Decepticon}}

===St. Michael ''The Transformers'' Sticker Book===
{{notemultipath}}
The Combaticons, and by extension Bruticus, were part of the crew of Decepticons serving under Galvatron near the planet Barrenikon when they shot down a ship captained by Ultra Magnus. The Combaticons only merged once in one possible scenario that followed, where they found [[you]] stuck in a quicksand hole in a swamp. Bruticus took you to the Decepticon ship as his prisoner. Though you tried to start a conversation with him to pass the time, Bruticus remained silent the entire journey to the ship's hold. {{storylink|The Transformers Sticker Book (St. Michael)|The Transformers Sticker Book}}

===''Transformers/G.I. Joe''===
[[File:Bruticus-Wolves.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0|Attack ''of'' titan.]]
Bruticus was created in [[1939]] as part of a plot by [[Destro]] and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] to overthrow their [[Cobra Commander|respective]] [[Megatron (G1)|leaders]]. A fusion of human and Cybertronian technology, Bruticus had no mind of his own, and was made only to follow his creators' orders. {{storylink|Wolves}} Later, when the combined forces of [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] and the Autobots were moving against [[Cobra]], Destro betrayed Starscream and activated Bruticus, ordering him to destroy everyone. Screaming that he hated everything and that he only wanted to "sleep again", Bruticus went on a wild rampage and caused an avalanche. As the giant swept aside any Autobot resistance, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] deduced that Bruticus was an artificial creation and wasn't really "alive" like the other Transformers. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] saw only one way to stop him—destroying the [[Matrix of Leadership]] that was connected to the lifeforce of all Transformers. On Prime's orders, [[Snake-Eyes]] let Bruticus smash the Matrix, causing a flash of light that destroyed the raging giant. {{storylink|The Iron Fist}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[File:BlackSunshine Bruticusdamaged.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|"Bruticus suntan lotion no work!"]]
Mighty Bruticus created from members of [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]. But then [[Optimus Prime (G1)|truckbot]] and [[Megatron (G1)|bossbot]] go away, thought killed, though not by Bruticus. Robots make [[Crisis Intervention Accord|deal]] which make Combaticons not work together. Bruticus not like deal, but components agree, forcing Bruticus to go to sleep... {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}} {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages}}

[[Starscream (G1)|Starbot]] later take components to [[Earth|fleshie world]]. Bruticus defeat puny Autobots, make Starbot compliment, Bruticus happy. But Starbot call Bruticus stupid for letting other bots get away, make Bruticus sad. Bruticus attack [[Ark (G1)|Autobot base]], but Autobots blow up base. Starbot angry at Bruticus again because Starbot wanted base in one piece. {{storylink|Night of the Combaticons}} Starbot yell at Bruticus, but not Bruticus fault. Soon, Bruticus components damaged in battle by [[Sunstorm (G1)|Burning bot]], Starbot order components to form mighty Bruticus! Bruticus try to smash Burning bot, but Burning bot too fast. ARGH! Bruticus head blown up by [[Mini Vehicle|Little Bot]] [[Orion|spaceship]]! Bruticus go to sleep... {{storylink|Black Sunshine}}

[[File:RouteofAllEvil Bruticus.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"Give purse to BRUTICUS!"]]
Later, components training by fighting [[Sky Lynx (G1)|egobot]] when [[Predaking (G1)|strangebot]] interrupt. Components recognize danger, and form Mighty Bruticus! Strangebot attack Bruticus! Bruticus ANGRY! Bruticus try to stop strangebot guns, but strangebot use foot-gun to hurt Bruticus!

Coward Starbot fly away like coward. Strangebot, open wings like birdbot and chase, but Bruticus stop birdbot. Bruticus want birdbot to DIE! No! Stupid gun, broken! Birdbot hurt Bruticus again, and Bruticus go to sleep... {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

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===''The Beast Within''===
The Combaticons merged to form Bruticus in order to fight [[Beast (G1)|The Beast]] during a particularly violent battle between the Autobots and the Decepticons. He didn't last too long against the Dinobot gestalt. {{storylink|The Beast Within}}
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===''Mystery of Convoy''===
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====''Mystery of Convoy'' strategy guide manga====
Though Bruticus tried to sneak up on Ultra Magnus to blast him with his shoulder beam, the Autobot evaded his blast. Ultra Magnus then managed to hit Bruticus's forehead upon returning fire. Having received a blow to his weak spot, Bruticus was defeated. {{storylink|Transformers (Mystery of Convoy)#Stage 7: Watch Out for Bruticus's Shoulder Beam!|Watch Out for Bruticus's Shoulder Beam!}}

====''Alternity''====
Bruticus, amongst others, was empowered by a higher-dimensional [[Megatron (G1)#Alternity|Megatron]] in order to be pitted against a higher-dimensional [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#Alternity|Optimus Prime]]'s [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|avatar]] in a cross-dimensional "game full of death and suffering". {{storylink|To Die Game!}}
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===''Transformers: All Spark''===
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{{storylink|Another Episode, Part 1}} {{storylink|Another Episode, Part 2}}

===''Kre-O'' online comic===
The Combaticons attacked the Autobots in the form of Bruticus, only to halt the assault because [[Vortex (G1)#Kre-O|Vortex]] didn't want to be there, he wanted to be home and guard the Decepticon base. In order to make him happy again, the other three Combaticons separated and went home with him. {{storylink|New Military Unit Combaticon! Bruticus, Combine!}} Bruticus later helped [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] put the finishing touch on [[Megatron (Kre-O)|Megatron]]'s new solar power tower, only to drop the ball and wreck the tower instead. {{storylink|Megatron's Ambition!? The Solar Tower Is Built!}} When the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] tried to capture Swindle, he combined with his buddies to form Bruticus, only for the giant to be promptly defeated by the Protectobots' own combined form, [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]. {{storylink|Bad at Fighting? Rescue Team Protectobots, Dispatch!}}

At some point, Bruticus, Devastator and [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] attacked [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] and were faced with [[Superion (G1)|Superion]]. Making use of [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]'s fear of heights, the three scared Superion by throwing him into the air, but were defeated after the Autobot combiner re-combined onto the ground and rolled into their legs. {{storylink|Kre-O Micro-Changers Combiners comic}}

===''Transformers vs. G.I. Joe''===
The Combaticons cast aside their [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] disguises and merged into Bruticus to join in the attack on the [[United Nations]]. He clashed with both Joes and [[GIJONIN]], using the helicopter blades on his arm to mow down the ninjas. {{storylink|Expelled from the Garden}}
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===2005 IDW continuity===
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[[File:TheLineBetweenUs Bruticus rampage.jpg|thumb|The [[Combiner Wars (event)|war's]] over, but better late than never.|left|upright=1.5]]
Bruticus was formed when Onslaught needed to search through the mind of a brain-dead Swindle for damaging information on [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]]. After getting the [[Enigma of Combination]] from [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]], the Combaticons merged into the gestalt but were unable to properly form a combined mind due to Swindle. The combiner almost mindlessly rampaged throughout Iacon, constantly muttering that everything must burn. Vortex reveled in the power that they wielded as Bruticus, Brawl was wallowing in pain after feeling Swindle's death, Blast Off struggled to keep them all together, and Onslaught dug through Swindle's memories. As Bruticus rampaged, [[Ironhide (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ironhide]] and his security forces were called in put him down, while [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] and [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] tried to reason with Bruticus to coax out the information they had on Starscream. Bruticus promptly backhanded Windblade out of the sky and when he was about to blast Chromia, Ironhide shot a rocket at his head, blowing it to pieces and sending the Combaticons back to their components. {{storylink|The Line Between Us}}

Later, when the [[Mistress of Flame]] wanted [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] released to Camien custody, she suggested Swindle or [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] could be handed over instead to face justice for their crimes. Wanting to keep Menasor and Bruticus on his side, Starscream opted to release Chromia. {{storylink|Heavy}} To bring Bruticus under control, Starscream had the [[Jungle Planet (colony)|Eukarian]] [[Mnemosurgery|mnemosurgeon]] [[Airachnid (G1)|Airachnid]] try to manipulate the Combaticons' minds so that Bruticus would be loyal only to him. Because the Combaticons minds had imprinted on each other during their combination, Airachnid found them more susceptible to the process, and thus had them believe that they had always been working for Starscream, using the inside man Blast Off to cover any holes in the story. As a result, the Combaticons came to believe that their forming of Bruticus had been a last-ditch attempt to save Swindle's life with Starscream's approval. {{storylink|The Price of You}}
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===''Prime Wars Trilogy'' marketing material===
[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] created Bruticus. {{storylink|Shockwave (G1)/toys#CombinerWars|Combiner Wars Shockwave toy bio}}

===''Win If You Dare''===
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Transformers: Bumblebee - Win If You Dare|Win If You Dare}}}}

===''Transformers/Ghostbusters''===
Bruticus was among the many Decepticons who unsuccessfully tried to defend Cybertron from [[Gozer]]. {{storylink|Ghosts of Cybertron Part 2}}

===Energon Universe===
[[File:TF2023 no. 16 - BruticusVsDevastator.jpg|right|300px|thumb]]
After a failed attempt at merging during a battle aboard the downed ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'', {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 9|Transformers #9}} the Combaticons, after being recruited by Starscream, were finally able to form Bruticus during a battle against Soundwave's team of Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 15|Transformers #15}} Not to be outdone, Soundwave ordered the Constructicons to to merge into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. The titanic warriors fought as their respective leaders tussled below, all watched from a distance by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and the [[Autobot]]s. In a spurt of rage, Prime fired on the Decepticons with his [[fusion cannon]], causing the dam they were fighting on to collapse. Bruticus and Devastator continued their battle even as they were pushed on by the raging river. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 16|Transformers #16}}

Eventually arriving in [[Seattle]], the Decepticons' civil war continued, with Bruticus getting the top of the Space Needle thrown at them by Devastator and receiving an uppercut for good measure. The city itself suffered catastrophic damage during the fight as the Autobots rushed to save as many humans as they could from being crushed underfoot by the grappling giants. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 17|Transformers #17}} Bruticus broke off the fight with Devastator to rescue the downed Starscream, but this distraction allowed Devastator to RKO Bruticus off a skyscraper and into the pavement. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 18|Transformers #18}}
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==Commercial appearances==
[[File:TF-G1-Commercial-Combaticon-Bruticus.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb]]
* The Combaticons formed Bruticus in order to take on [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. As his opponent changed into robot mode, Bruticus took to the skies to better avoid the citybot's weapons-fire. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 1#Bruticus and Metroplex|Bruticus and Metroplex commercial}}
* Bruticus battled [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] in the suburbs while a small boy cheered on the Autobot. A particularly powerful blow from his opponent knocked Bruticus's arms off, but they quickly reattached themselves to that the duel could continue. {{storylink|Commercial/Generation 2#Aerialbots and Combaticons|Generation 2 Aerialbots and Combaticons commercial}}
* During a massive battle between Kreons, the Combaticons combined into Bruticus. He and [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] then proceeded to send the Autobots fleeing for their tiny lives. {{storylink|Commercial#Kre-O|KRE-O Transformers Micro Changers and Combiners Construction Sets commercial}}

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==Games==
===''Transformers: Mystery of Convoy''===
Bruticus guards the exit from the [[Glacier Zone]], floating in a dark void with three hovering platforms, and launching fireballs aimed at Autobot positions. His armor makes him invulnerable, save for a conveniently glowing weak spot on his forehead. {{storylink|Transformers: Mystery of Convoy}}

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===''Transformers: The Headmasters''===
When the Decepticons captured some of the Autobots' greatest warriors, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] and Bruticus stood guard over [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] on Cybertron. They were defeated and their prisoners were rescued by [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] and the other freed Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers: The Headmasters (video game)|Transformers: The Headmasters}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:Battle-Tactics-Bruticus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
Bruticus participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. He was a Super Rare combiner that could be recruited to a team if all of his components were at max level. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
[[file:BruticusEarthWars.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Bruticus, Fanmode ACTIVATE!]]

To gain another Combiner, Megatron and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] enlisted the Combaticons, despite some of their complaints. When Bruticus first successfully formed, he boasted that he beat anyone. Starscream sent him out to battle [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]] just so he could soften him up for the other 'cons to finish the job. {{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars}}

*'''Class''': Combiner
*'''Lowest Star ratings''': 3 Star
*'''Weapons''': Bruticus usually smashes things with his Fists and feet. He sometimes shoots small laser blasts out of his knuckles.
*'''Abilities:''':
**'''Earth Shatter''': Smash into the earth sending a shockwave of damage in a line towards the target area! Deals 600% more damage to Walls!
**'''Frantic Rage''': Gain 30% movement speed, 30% damage reduction, and close range Splash radius, and attack with +50% more damage for the next 10 seconds!
**'''Shockfire Missiles''' (4 star): Fire 4 rockets dealing a large amount of damage and disabling all defenses around the blast radius!

[http://wiki.transformersearthwars.com/character:bruticus Bruticus at Transformers: Earth Wars Wiki]
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===''Transformers Roleplaying Game''===
Bruticus was a monstrous warrior who sacrificed his components’ brainpower for extra brawn. {{storylink|Decepticon Directive}} [[Termagax]] identified Bruticus as an example of a dysfunctional combiner, noting that he possessed none of the tactical acumen of his individual components. {{storylink|The Enigma of Combination}}

==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
{{anchor|Generation 1}}
[[File:Bruticus toy.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb|"Rargh... many transform Bruticus wrong... and blame Bruticus design..."]]
*'''Bruticus''' (Multi-pack, [[1986]], [[1991]], [[2009]])
**''Takara ID number:'' '''D-69'''

:''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' Bruticus is formed from all five Combaticon toys. The four smaller Combaticons attach via sockets in Onslaught's shoulders and the bottom of his feet. Fists and feet pads attach onto the four limbs, and Bruticus is completed with a large chest plate and a helmet covering Onslaught's head. He wields Onslaught's [[sonic stun-gun]] in battle. The gun can also be stored on his backpack using two rectangular pegs which hold the gun in place via its targeting sight. As with all [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)#1986 (Scramble City and Transformers 2010)|Scramble City]]-style [[combiner]] teams, his limbs can be rearranged into any slot of one's choosing.

:The package art of Bruticus has the leg formed by Brawl face forward. Having him face backward like his in-show (look at the right picture) doesn't affect the stability of the gestalt.

:Along with Metroplex, Menasor, Defensor, and Superion, Bruticus was designed for an aborted ''[[Diaclone]]'' subline that would have been called ''[[Diaclone#Jizai Gattai|Jizai Gattai]]'' (自在合体 "Limitless Combination"), which was shelved to make way for the ''Transformers'' line.

:In most markets, only the individual Combaticons were released, with the [[giftset]] only made available in Japan and Italy. The Italian box layout was based very closely on the standard Hasbro combiner giftsets at that time, down to the inclusion of a Hasbro product code number; but unlike the other [[GiG]] combiner giftsets, "Multiforce" lacked the Hasbro logo on the front of the box, and the individual components sported Takara numbers from D-64 to D-68 before their names.

:The individual Combaticons were re-released in various European markets as part of the "[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]" line in 1991, and a Bruticus giftset was reissued by [[TakaraTomy]] in Japan in 2009.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Bruticus/bruticus.htm More information on Bruticus at TFU.info]''
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===''Generation 2''===
[[File:G2-toy Bruticus.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Fruit Chewticus]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d2|'''[[Onslaught (G1)#Generation 2|Onslaught]]''' (Combaticon, [[1994]])}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d2|'''[[Blast Off (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Blast Off]]''' (Combaticon, 1994)}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d2|'''[[Brawl (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Brawl]]''' (Combaticon, 1994)}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d2|'''[[Swindle (G1)#Generation 2|Swindle]]''' (Combaticon, 1994)}}</ul>
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d2|'''[[Vortex (G1)#Generation 2|Vortex]]''' (Combaticon, 1994)}}</ul>

: Released in the second year of ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'', the Combaticons were redecoed (minus any customer-applied stickers) and re-released, but only sold as individuals. Functionally, he is nearly identical to the original toy, other than being slightly enhanced by a hand-held spring-loaded missile launcher (the same launcher that came with [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Jazz]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Generation 2|Sideswipe]] the previous year) and a post-hole in Onslaught's cannon-backpack which allows the launcher to be stored there. All of the toys are all-plastic versions, no die-cast metal at all.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1994/Decepticon/Bruticus/bruticus.htm More information on ''Generation 2'' Bruticus at TFU.info]''
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[[File:G2toy-BruticusAmazon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"You all laugh when Bruticus wear these colors before. WHO'S LAUGHING NOW!?"]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d2|'''Bruticus''' (Multi-pack, [[2012]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Multi-part "Sonic Cannon"
{{toydesigner|[[Andrew Franks]] (deco artist)}}

: This version of Bruticus comes as a gift set, [[exclusive]] to [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] and [[BigBadToyStore]]. Packaged in a ''Generation 2''-styled box complete with hand-painted character art, it contains [[redeco]]es of all five ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]] [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'' [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticons]] in their Generation 1 doppelgangers' ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' colors, complete with ''Generation 2'' Decepticon insignia. While Onslaught forms the torso, the remaining team members can serve as any of the four limbs, though the official configuration has Vortex as the left arm, Blast Off as the right arm, Brawl as the left leg, and Swindle as the right leg. The individual weapons the Combaticons have can be combined into a "Sonic Cannon" for Bruticus to wield via [[5 mm post]].

: Like the original releases of the mold, this Bruticus also possessed some balance issues. This is mostly caused by having all of the Combaticons being Deluxes, Onslaught included. Although the 4 limb Combaticons can assume either an arm or foot position, certain members fare very poorly in certain modes, such as Brawl as an arm or Blast Off as a leg, which creates further balancing problems for Bruticus.

: Preorders for the set began on [[July 6]] of 2012 via Amazon (BigBadToyStore would not put up theirs until much later), and the final product was shipped out in early/mid-November. This may be considered a tie-in to Amazon's preorder bonus for the ''Fall of Cybertron'' game: a "''Generation 2''"-themed skin for Bruticus. This set was also available at normal retail in Australia.

: These molds were [[retool]]ed into ''Fall of Cybertron'' [[Ruination (FOC)#Toys|Ruination]].
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===''Universe'' (2008)===
[[File:Universe-ROTF-toy BruticusMaximus.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"Why Bruticus no have hands?"]]
*'''Bruticus Maximus''' ([[2008]])
**''Series:'' '''G1 Series'''

:''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' Bruticus, now named "Bruticus Maximus" (presumably for [[trademark]] reasons), is a redeco of the [[Destruction Team]]/[[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]] combiner from ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]''. While [[Brawl (G1)#Universe (2008)|Brawl]] and [[Vortex (G1)#Universe (2008)|Vortex]] retain their previous modes of tank and helicopter respectively, [[Blast Off (G1)#Universe (2008)|Blast Off]] is now the combiner's second tank, and [[Swindle (G1)#Universe (2008)|Swindle]] a sand-colored helicopter. As a redeco of an ''Energon'' combiner, Bruticus Maximus feature universal connection points for the limbs, allowing many different combinations and even swapping of limbs from different ''Energon'' Combiner teams.

[[File:Tf universe 25th bruticus a.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb]]
:Like [[Superion (G1)#Universe (2008)|Superion]], Bruticus Maximus, despite being initially intended as a ''Universe'' [[Target]] [[exclusive]], was only released in ''Universe'' packaging in some non-American markets such as Australia and Singapore. Instead, Target stores (and Zellers stores in Canada) received an unchanged version of the toy in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' packaging, still named [[Bruticus Maximus (ROTF)|Bruticus Maximus]], with all the individual components retaining their names as well.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TargetBruticusMaximus/bruticusmaximus.htm More information on Bruticus Maximus at TFU.info]''
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===''Encore''===
[[File:BruticusG1-Encore.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Bruticus''' ([[2009]])
**''ID number'': '''16'''

:In 2009, the Generation 1 set was reissued under the ''[[Transformers Encore]]'' line, using the [[retool]]ed molds from the first ''Robots in Disguise'' release with Onslaught's launcher mechanism from his original Japanese release.
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===''United''===
[[File:United Bruticus Maximus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Bruticus Maximus''' (Multi-pack, [[November 7]], 2012)

:Released exclusively in Hasbro's Asian markets, this redeco of the ''Energon'' Bruticus Maximus set has colours similar to the previous ''Universe''/''Revenge of the Fallen'' release, but with a much greater emphasis on G1-accuracy. Additionally, the hand/feet/weapons previously cast in translucent coloured plastic are now opaque grey.

:While unconfirmed, it seems likely that this release was conceived to satisfy then-high collector demand for the original ''Universe'' Bruticus Maximus set, a result of the unofficial Explorer and Munitioner upgrade kits released for the figure by "[[IP theft|third party]]" company FansProject. Of course, as unlicensed product, the kits were not acknowledged in any official marketing material for the re-released toy.
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===''Kre-O''===
[[File:KreO-Toy Bruticus.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|Bruticus feel.... Tiny?]]
*'''Decepticon Bruticus''' (Micro-Changer Combiner, 2013)
**''Set number'': '''A2225'''
{{toydesigner|[[Ed Masiello]] (Hasbro)}}

:One of the first ''[[Kre-O]]'' [[Micro-Changer]] combiner sets, Bruticus includes four [[Kreon]]s: [[Onslaught (G1)#Kre-O|Onslaught]], [[Brawl (G1)#Kre-O|Brawl]], [[Vortex (G1)#Kre-O|Vortex]], and [[Swindle (G1)#Kre-O|Swindle]]. These four component Kreons can be rebuilt into their alternate modes or taken apart and combined into Bruticus.

:Like all Micro Changer combiner sets, Bruticus comes with only ''one'' Kre-O display brick, and a sticker sheet composed of his leg, arm and right shoulder details and a ''Kre-O'' logo. Due to the limb stickers being slightly transparent, applying them into the black-colored leg parts could render the details being semi-transparent. The instructions also did not mention where you should put the ''Kre-O'' logo sticker. Also, Bruticus's combined mode's waist part is somehow prone to falling off from the assembly while posing, and he has a problem standing straight due to how the legs are constructed.

:Despite Blast Off's exclusion from the set, he was later released in the first wave of blind bag figures and, with enough creativity, can be combined into Bruticus.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/Kre-OBruticus/bruticus.htm More information on Bruticus at TFU.info]''

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*'''Combiner Robot Mega Pack''' (3-pack, 2016)
**''Set number'': '''???'''
**''Pieces'': '''245'''

:3 years later, the 3 Micro-Changer combiners, Superion, Bruticus, and Menasor were reissued and released as a 3-pack. The toys were unchanged from their individual releases.

===''Combiner Wars''===
[[File:CWBruticus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|OH [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|SWEET]] [[Bruticus (WFC)#Generations|MERCIFUL]] DAY!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''[[Onslaught (G1)#Combiner Wars|Onslaught]]''' (Voyager Class, [[2016]])}}
{{Bp-d1|'''[[Blast Off (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Decepticon Blast Off]]''' (Deluxe Class, 2016)}}
:{{Bp-d1|'''[[Blast Off (G1)/toys#PWTSE|Decepticon Blast Off]]''' (Special Edition, 2018)}}
{{Bp-d1|'''[[Brawl (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Brawl]]''' (Deluxe Class, 2016)}}
{{Bp-d1|'''[[Swindle (G1)#Combiner Wars|Swindle]]''' (Deluxe Class, 2016)}}
{{Bp-d1|'''[[Vortex (G1)#Combiner Wars|Decepticon Vortex]]''' (Deluxe Class, 2016)}}
{{Bp-d1|'''[[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Decepticon Shockwave]]''' (Legends Class, 2016)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Shogo Hasui]] (TakaraTomy)}}

:''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Bruticus is formed from all five Combaticon figures and [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Shockwave]]. Designed in the "Scramble City" style, all four Deluxe Combaticons can each become either an arm or a leg, and come with double-barrelled guns that can transform into either a foot or a fist to complete the limb. The stock photography shows Blast Off and Vortex as arms and Swindle and Brawl as legs. Shockwave transforms into the combiner robot's handheld weapon, but his overall weight makes it largely impossible for him to be held by any combiner in a firing pose without falling over or pulling the arm down. Even worse, as Onslaught is retooled from [[Hot Spot (G1)#Combiner Wars|Hot Spot]], Bruticus retains [[Defensor (G1)#Generations|Defensor]]'s forward-lean problem. Unlike Defensor however, the leaning problem can be resolved by turning Bruticus's thighs inward, forcing the pelvis armor to push against Onslaught's knees and correcting his posture, although this will force Bruticus into a strange A-legged stance.

:A promotional CGI render of the combined mode has Bruticus slightly mistransformed, having Blast Off's legs facing knees forward in his arm mode, which would leave Bruticus' left arm without a double elbow. Though difficult, it is ''possible'' to arrange Vortex's rotors in a shield-like position.

:Like [[Defensor (G1)#Generations|Defensor]] before him, all four limbs were released in the same wave, making it much easier to complete a set. He is also the first "classic" combiner in the ''Combiner Wars'' series to not have a "replacement" member. However, Blast Off was relegated to a simple redeco of [[Slingshot (G1)#Combiner Wars|Quickslinger]], leaving him with a different alt-mode (a jet instead of a space shuttle) and an inaccurate head. In 2018 Hasbro released a redeco of the Unite Warriors version of Blast Off ([[Bruticus (G1)#Unite Warriors|see below]]) as a more accurate replacement.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2016/Decepticon/CWBruticus/bruticus.htm More information on ''Combiner Wars'' Bruticus at TFU.info]''

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[[File:CW-toy Bruticus G2.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|TASTE THE RAINBOW. TASTE IT!!!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Bruticus''' (Collection Pack, 2016)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Weapons/combiner extremities, Onslaught's two guns, Blast Off's gun, Vortex's gun, Brawl's barrel rifle, Swindle's gun

: The whole <s>metamorphin' Dudicus</s> big, bad, battlin' Bruticus team was redecoed in their ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' colors (though [[Onslaught (G1)#CWG2|Onslaught]]'s black portions are now a super-dark brown), packed with a sorta-generically ''Generation 2''-esque, vaguely-[[Action Master]]-version-ish deco'd version of [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Combiner Wars|Shockwave]]. However, despite being (broadly) accurate in their base colors, all of the Combaticons have Generation 1 insignias, while Shockwave comes with the movie version of the Decepticon faction symbol.

: There is no ''Generation 2''-colored version of the Space Shuttle Blast Off toy, sorry. You only get the jet.

: Weirdly, the ''backs'' of the antennae on Bruticus's head are painted silver, rather than the front where they'd be far more noticeable/make any amount of sense. On the other hand, the original ''Generation 2'' Bruticus had unpainted antennae, so hey.

: This version of the combiner was only sold as a complete team in a big box set, which also included a poster and a collector card based on the packaging art. This set was sold "exclusively" through multiple online outlets, though it eventually found its way to closeout retailers like TJ Maxx and Ross the following holiday season for well below its original price, alongside more or less all of the other "Collection Pack" semi-exclusives in the line.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2016/Decepticon/CWG2Bruticus/bruticus.htm More information on Generation 2 ''Combiner Wars'' Bruticus at TFU.info]''
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===''Unite Warriors''===
[[File:TF-UW07-Bruticus.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|So cartoon accurate his chest is based on what some people would call an animation error!]]
*'''Bruticus''' (giftset, [[June 25]], [[2016]])
**''ID number:'' '''UW-07'''
{{toydesigner|[[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}

:The Japanese ''[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]'' release of [[#Combiner Wars|''Combiner Wars'' Bruticus]] comes in a much more cartoon-accurate color scheme, with a recolored chest plate, and color matching hand/foot/gun pieces for [[Swindle (G1)#Unite Warriors 2|Swindle]] and [[Brawl (G1)#Unite Warriors 2|Brawl]]. He has a completely new mold in the form of [[Blast Off (G1)#Unite Warriors 2|Blast Off]] as a space shuttle, rather than the recolored jet mold of his Hasbro release. [[Vortex (G1)#Unite Warriors 2|Vortex]] also includes the more cartoon-accurate four-bladed rotor blades as opposed to the two-bladed rotors his Hasbro version carried over from the Alpha Bravo mold. Shockwave is not included with this release, as the ''Unite Warriors'' line does not utilize Legends Class molds, though you could pair Bruticus with the cycloptic scientist's [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Legends|''Legends'' release]] if you wish.

:The giftset included a [[collector coin]] when purchased from select retailers outside Japan.

===''Age of the Primes''===
*'''Bruticus''' ([[2025]]/[[2026]])
**'''1 of 5: [[Vortex (G1)#Age of the Primes|Combaticon Vortex]]'''
:With the reveal of Vortex at the New York Toy Fair 2025, confirmation of a new Bruticus in the [[Transformers: Age of the Primes|''Age of the Primes'']] toyline naturally followed. Teased on the side of Vortex's packaging, Bruticus is a cartoon accurate figure and will presumably utilize the frame combiner system devised by ''Legacy'' [[Menasor (G1)#Legacy|Menasor]] and later used for ''Age of the Primes'' [[Superion (G1)#Age of the Primes|Superion]], with the limb bots attaching to a skeletal Bruticus formed by [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]].
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==Merchandise==
===''Transformers Character Card''===
[[File:Transformers Character Card Bruticus and Defensor.jpg|upright=1.3|thumb|]]
*'''Guardian & Bruticus Set''' ([[December]], [[2023]])
**''ID number:'' '''71 & 72'''

:Released as part of the tenth wave of the [[e-HOBBY]] exclusive ''[[Transformers Character Card]]'' series, this pair of holographic trading cards depict super-deformed art of "[[Defensor (G1)|Guardian]]" (with his components [[Blades (G1)|Blades]], [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]], [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]], [[Groove (G1)|Groove]], and [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]]) and Bruticus (with ''his'' components [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]], [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]], [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]], [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] and [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]) along with [[bio|character profiles]] and [[Tech Spec|tech specs]].
::*''[[Source:Transformers Character Card#72|Translation of Bruticus's Transformers Character Card]]''

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==Notes==
[[File:G1-Combaticon-early-patent-sketches.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2]]
[[File:EuroClassicsBruticus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|First person to insert a "Don't shoot the caption" gag gets summarily banned.]]

* Much like the individual Combaticons who form him, Bruticus's [[character model]] has a couple of oddities, due to the majority of it being based on unfinished, vague toy design sketches (at right) instead of actual toy references.
** Bruticus's chest plate is drawn to look like it is formed from parts of [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]]—mainly his wings, but the central portion of the chestplate is drawn to look like his shuttle cockpit hull, with the orientation of its details reversed. Certain detailed combination sequences, seen in "[[Aerial Assault]]," "[[The Revenge of Bruticus]]", and "[[B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.]]", actually show Blast Off's wings disconnecting and moving into place as the chestplate, but these sequences also misinterpret some of Bruticus's details, and wind up depicting the two wheels at the base of the chestplate, which are supposed to be part of Onslaught's torso, as being connected to the plate and hence part of Blast Off.
** While Bruticus' toy has wheels on the back of its thighs, his cartoon model only depicts this detail on his ''left'' thigh, almost certainly a product of his rear-view character model being designed without the toy for reference, like multiple other season 2 characters—not that it matters much in practise, as the odd detail is almost consistently omitted from his actual in-show appearances.
** Bruticus has two head designs in the cartoon: the detailed one seen in his full-body character model, which features in most of his animated appearances, and a simplified, more angular one that appears consistently in "[[The Revenge of Bruticus]]" and "[[Fight or Flee (episode)|Fight or Flee]]," and in select brief scenes of other episodes.
* The packaging of the 1991 [[The Transformers (European toyline)|European]] [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] release of the original Onslaught toy depicted Bruticus and the Combaticons in (mostly) new color schemes, despite the fact that the actual toys looked identical to their original releases. While it may never be known for certain, it has been theorized that these colors were the cause of an error with the hue settings of the [[stock photography|stock photos]], rather than a legitimate attempt to [[redeco]] the Combaticons.
* Several attributes of [[Action Master Elite]] [[Turbo Master]], including his face and chest plate, suggest that he was originally intended to be Bruticus. However, according to ''[[Transformers Generations (guidebook)|Transformers Generations Deluxe]]'', at one point a non-transforming version of Action Master Bruticus was planned, which would have looked significantly different from [[Turbo Master]].
* For every version of the original Bruticus mold, the packaging art depicts the Brawl figure on backwards.
*''Earth Wars'' Bruticus's character model is a (more proportionate) recreation of his ''Combiner Wars'' toy.
* ''Earth Wars'' Bruticus's Earth Shatter ability is most likely a reference to his [[Bruticus (WFC)|''Fall of Cybertron'' counterpart]]'s shockwave ability, given how it affects a large area and do mass amounts of damage. The same could also be said about Shockfire Missiles, during his boss fight in the final few parts of ''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'', in which the cannons on his back to deal damage to the player, though in this case you can actually do it ''while'' using him.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Bruticus''' (ブルーティカス ''Burūtikasu'')
*''Italian:'' '''Multiforce''' (toy and season 3)
*''Mandarin:'' '''Bruticus''' (Taiwan, 布魯提卡斯 ''Bùlǔtíkǎsī''), '''Hùn Tiān Bào''' (Mainland China, 混天豹)
*''Portuguese:'' '''Brutus''' (Brazil comic)
*''Russian:'' '''Grubikus''' (Грубикус)
*''Polish:'' '''Tępak''' (TM Semic Comic, "Dunderhead")

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Carnivac (G1)

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{{disambig3|Carnivac}}
:''Carnivac is a [[Decepticon]] [[Pretender Beast]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:G1 Carnivac MTMTE.jpg|upright=1.8|thumb|The only thing more awesome than a wolf is a wolf with a robotic transforming wolf inside it!]]
'''Carnivac''' is an unpredictable Decepticon who can be as much a danger to his own comrades as he is to the [[Autobot]]s. That's because Carnivac lives by his own code of justice, one that supersedes concepts like "allegiance" and "duty". He'll savagely tear enemies to shreds with a smile on his face one moment, and form alliances with them in the next. Proud of his warrior heritage, Carnivac mostly judges individuals by their actions and not by what badge they're wearing. This wolf-in-wolf's clothing is a fierce ally to fight alongside...and a terrifying force to be hunted by.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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[[File:Uk203 cover detail.jpg|left|upright=0.75|thumb|I've got just the thing to take care of that headache.]]
''As part of the Decepticons' [[Mayhem Attack Squad]], Carnivac was dispatched to Earth to deal with the threat posed by the deranged future Decepticon [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. Carnivac was under orders to team up with [[Springer (G1)|Springer]]'s [[Wreckers]], but to kill any Autobots left standing after the battle was over. But the Mayhems were decimated by Galvatron, who had allied himself with a [[Straxus (G1)|clone of Megatron]], until only Carnivac and [[Catilla (G1)|Catilla]] remained. During the course of the battle, Carnivac and Springer each saved the other's life, and a warrior's bond began to form between the two foes.'' {{storylink|Time Wars}}

[[File:Carnivac and snarler us51.jpg|thumb|Scorponok also spilled a bucket of gold paint on him.]]
''After the chaos of the [[Time Wars]], the pair joined up with [[Snarler]] and made contact with Earth's local Decepticon commander, [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], who outfitted them with synthoplasmic Pretender shells in return for taking on a mission from him. Monitored from a distance by Catilla,'' Carnivac and Snarler were sent to track down and destroy [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]], the human [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] component of [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]. After locating the boy's Headmaster control helmet in a junkyard, they tracked him to a ski slope, where Spike was enjoying a vacation with his friend [[Cliff Dietz|Clifford Dietz]]. The two Decepticons gave chase, but their prey was able to use the terrain to his advantage, and evaded his pursuers until he was able to summon the body of Fortress Maximus from the orbiting [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] by mental command. Without his head component however, Fortress Maximus was sluggish. Carnivac and Snarler enjoyed blasting him and the environs, until Spike retrieved his helmet and once rejoined with the massive Autobot. Once more in full possession of his mental capacities, Maximus sent the two Decepticons running. {{storylink|The Man in the Machine!}}

''Left on Earth with no contact from the Decepticons on Cybertron, Carnivac and his companions realized that they had been abandoned by their own kind. At the same time, much the same problem was being faced by the remnants of the Wreckers. Remembering the bond they'd established, Carnivac sought them out with the possibility of another alliance. Snarler, however, was disgusted by the entire affair and vowed to see Carnivac hunted down and killed if he should fraternize any further with the Autobots.''

''When an array of monstrous creatures conjured up by [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] threatened to cause the destruction of the [[Hudden Nuclear Power Plant]], Carnivac and Catilla both defied Snarler and united with Springer's crew to stop the monsters. Springer extended an offer for the two to join the Autobots, and while Catilla accepted, Carnivac said that he would only join Springer's group on his own terms, as a Decepticon. Together, the mismatched group formed the [[Survivors]].'' {{storylink|Survivors!}}

[[File:WayOfTheWarrior CarnivacTransforms.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Code of Fido]]
''Snarler re-established contact with Cybertron and put together a new Mayhem Attack Squad for the express purpose of hunting down the traitorous Carnivac and Catilla. Carnivac, meanwhile, was already finding it difficult to fit in with the other Autobots and chafed under Springer's leadership. Departing for some alone time, Carnivac stumbled across a Decepticon [[Hellhound]] mechanoid attacking [[Dallas]], [[Texas]] and destroyed it, but this proved to have been a ploy to expose him to the Mayhem Attack Squad.'' {{storylink|Way of the Warrior}}

''When the army intervened in the ensuing conflict, Carnivac used the distraction to flee into the desert, but was tracked by the Mayhems and wound up in another conflict in the small village of [[Los Gravos]], [[Mexico]].'' {{storylink|Survival Run}}

''Carnivac held his own, and though he ultimately proved no match for all of the Squad at once, he was saved by the sudden appearance of the other Survivors. As Catilla pounced upon [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] to prevent him from finishing Carnivac, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] impaled Catilla on his sword, killing him. Carnivac swore revenge.'' {{storylink|A Savage Place!}}

=====Earthforce=====
{{note|Earthforce doesn't really fit into post-"[[The Primal Scream|Primal Scream]]" continuity without some heavy beating. This means the last part of the Survivors story didn't take place—though unless Carnivac suddenly mellowed out over the murder of his friend, it can be assumed he did something similar to "Wolf in the Fold!" in regular continuity. Somewhen.}}
[[File:Carnivac-uk comic shell.jpg|thumb|Nice doggie... cute little pooch... maybe I got a Milk Bone or something...]]
Some time later, after the formation of the Autobot [[Earthforce]], Carnivac tracked down the Mayhem Attack Squad and took out their weakest link [[Needlenose (G1)|Needlenose]] first, using his target's tendency to "cry wolf" to his advantage. {{storylink|Cry Wolf!}}

Next, he targeted Bludgeon, but he underestimated his foe's abilities and allowed the fight to go on too long, allowing the rest of the Mayhems to arrive on the scene. Escaping into the compound, Carnivac separated from his Pretender shell and allowed it to be destroyed by a blast from Spinister, leaving the Decepticons to believe he had been killed. {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}}

As Snarler inspected his remains alone, Carnivac struck, crushing him with debris. The Autobot Earthforce soon arrived and were met in battle by Bludgeon, [[Stranglehold]], and [[Octopunch (G1)|Octopunch]]. Spinister watched from afar, and when he attempted to depart, Carnivac killed him with a single blast. With Bludgeon's team defeated, Carnivac revealed his deception to the Earthforce and stayed them from killing the remaining Mayhems. [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] was impressed by his merciful action and welcomed him into the Earthforce, but Carnivac merely laughed, saying that it was not mercy, but rather torture, by denying them the warrior's deaths they desired. He may have been an Earthforce member, but he was, after all, still an "Evil Decepticon". {{storylink|Where Wolf?}}

Carnivac remained with Earthforce, however, joining them to attack Starscream as he attempted to steal an oil tanker for fuel. Starscream commented that Carnivac's attack was pathetic and easily avoidable, but Carnivac was merely acting as a distraction for a follow-up attack by Skids, which nailed Starscream and drove him off. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}

====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
Carnivac joined [[Darkwing (G1)|Darkwing]]'s squad of Decepticons as they raided [[Nevada Alpha]] to acquire its supply of nuclear missiles. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 8|"Save Nevada Alpha"}}

====''Classics''====
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Twenty years after the battle of [[Klo]], Carnivac and Snarler had joined [[Overlord (G1)|Gigatron]]'s Decepticons on [[Earth]], and were present when Gigatron's team attacked the Autobots' [[Ironworks (facility)|Ironworks]] headquarters for their hidden [[Rarified Energon]] reserves. {{storylink|Invasion Prologue}}

They were plotting a second assault when invaders from [[Primax -408.24 Epsilon|another dimension]] complicated the plans. The Decepticons found themselves allied with the forces of good, defending their hunting ground on Earth from [[Ultra Magnus (SG)|evil Autobots]] who wanted to destroy the entire world. {{storylink|Invasion (issue)|Invasion}}

====''Regeneration One''====
{{NoteRG1}}
[[File:Mayhem attack squad destiny.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|An American Werewolf in Traffic.]]
Carnivac, Snarler, and [[Roadblock (G1)|Roadblock]] assembled at [[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]]'s command as the Mayhem Attack Squad on Cybertron. The Autobot communications officer [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] had discovered Soundwave's subliminal agitator signal in Cybertron's undernet, and Soundwave needed him silenced. The Mayhems moved to eliminate Blaster while he recovered at the [[Garage]]. When they struck, however, the Mayhems were overwhelmed by Blaster and his fellow patients, allowing Blaster to spread word of Soundwave's deception. {{storylink|Destiny, Part Two}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[File:Predaconstww.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb|left|Where's Wolfo?]]
Before the war broke out, Carnivac and Catilla worked together as private investigators. During the course of the war Carnivac changed from a noble spirit to a demented lunatic who unsettled everyone around him. His fellow Decepticons weren't sure what the cause was, beyond maybe a hit to his cerebral circuitry, and Carnivac didn't care. {{storylink|Transformers: More than Meets the Eye}}

Carnivac and his partner Snarler were members of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s faction of [[Predacon (War Within)|Predacons]], named after the great [[Predacon (G1)|Decepticon warlords of times past]]. Carnivac participated in the assault on the [[Tyger Pax]]. He was disappointed that their first [[Defunct|victims]] died so easily, but his disappointment was cut short when [[X-Warlock]] was killed and their opponents were able to quickly regroup. Carnivac himself was subdued by [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], while the combined might of the Autobot, Decepticon, and [[Ultracon]] factions proved too much for the Predacon forces. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}}

After the disappearance of Megatron and the ''Nemesis'', Carnivac was among the Decepticon soldiers serving under Shockwave. He, along with most other guzzlers on both sides, was tricked into an all-out brawl by [[Skystalker (G1)|Skystalker]], who hoped to take over Cybertron once the less energy-efficient bots had eliminated one another. {{storylink|Victims of the Revolution}}
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===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Stormbringer issue 4|''Stormbringer'' #4]]}}

[[File:Stormbringer4 DCon groundforces.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|I wouldn't wanna be off-panel.]]
Born an [[outlier (group)|outlier]], Carnivac possessed the special ability to paralyze and even temporarily control other Cybertronians' bodies through a sonic "howl". However, sustained utilization of this ability was somewhat draining on Carnivac himself. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 2|Sins of the Wreckers #2}} Carnivac and [[Stakeout (G1)|Stakeout]] once worked for [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ultra Magnus]], bringing cross-factional justice to the war. After a time, Carnivac defected to the Decepticons. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3|Sins of the Wreckers #3}}

Carnivac was stationed on board the ''[[Thanatos]]''. When [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] returned to decimate Cybertron once more, Carnivac joined the battle under [[Headstrong (G1)|Headstrong]]'s command, serving as ground forces backing up [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] and the Wreckers in their struggle. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 4|Stormbringer #4}}

After the war, Carnivac became a commander in a secret society known as [[Mayhem Attack Squad|Mayhem]] and they set out to take out the "ruling class" of both factions that had wronged them. They made contact with the mad scientist [[Tarantulas (BW)#2005 IDW continuity|Tarantulas]], who offered them spark signature-shielding [[Chimeracon]] bodies to disguise themselves on Earth, as long as they started their mission by abducting [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]] for him. Familiar with Prowl's shady wheelings and dealings, Carnivac happily put Mayhem at Tarantulas' beck-and-call and gained a new organic wolf [[beast mode]]. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 2|Sins of the Wreckers #2}} {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3|Sins of the Wreckers #3}}

[[File:Sinsofthewreckers2 Carnivac barks at the moon.jpg|left|upright=1.8|thumb|''The Howling VIII: Project Metalbeast.'']]

When the Wreckers came looking for Prowl, Carnivac used his sonic howl to shoot [[Springer (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Springer]] down and introduced himself. He calmly explained to Springer (and a listening [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]]) what Mayhem were fighting for and that the Wreckers should be with him on this. Impactor was not impressed with how quickly Carnivac abandoned his fellow Mayhem member [[Polar Claw]] to be killed- the cause seemingly being more important than helping a comrade in peril. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 2|Sins of the Wreckers #2}}

[[File:sotw3 Carnivac and Stakeout.jpg|upright=0.9|thumb|"Diiid... I do... good?"]]

After a ferocious battle, Carnivac ordered the Mayhems to retreat back to [[Tidal Wave (G1)|Tidal Wave]], who served as their mobile base. Tidal Wave got stuck in mid-mode during the fight after Stakeout was swallowed by him, and Carnivac was dismayed to learn his old friend had been badly crushed by Tidal Wave's massive [[transformation cog]]. Carnivac tried to comfort the dying Autobot and they reminisced about old times serving under Ultra Magnus together. At Stakeout's request, Carnivac took his old partner's hand and remained at his side until he passed. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3|Sins of the Wreckers #3}}

When the Wreckers launched a strike on [[Tor|Tarantulas' base]] in the [[Noisemaze (dimension)|Noisemaze]], Tarantulas ordered Carnivac and the Chimeracons to destroy the intruders. There, they clashed with Impactor, [[Guzzle (G1)|Guzzle]], and [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]], and Carnivac found himself in battle with the former leader of the Wreckers. Things started going wrong when an irritated Tidal Wave pushed himself into the Noisemaze despite Carnivac's protests, his sheer mass threatening to collapse the entire dimension.{{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 4|Sins of the Wreckers #4}}

[[File:SinsoftheWreckers CarnivacShutsTidalWaveDown.jpg|left|upright=1.6|thumb|Carnivac has no time for a [[Transformers (Armada PS2)|boss fight]].]]
As the Noisemaze began to come down, the Wreckers deliberately force-fed Tidal Wave a heap of [[Obtenteum]], knowing that the super-fuel would drive him into a berserker rage. Carnivac used his powers on his comrade to force Tidal Wave back into his whale mode, but the massive gravitational forces associated with his transformation ultimately destroyed the Noisemaze once and for all. Carnivac and the other Chimeracons managed to escape the maze before its collapse and with their benefactor Tarantulas apparently dead, Impactor joined Mayhem and vowed to help Carnivac topple the 'bots in power. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 5|Sins of the Wreckers #5}}

Despite their new partnership, Carnivac chafed when Impactor quickly took over the leading role in Mayhem. The two came up with a plan to further discredit Cybertronian/human relations on Earth by framing an Autobot for assassinating a prominent politician. To that end, Impactor went deep undercover in the [[President of the United States]]' motorcade, and Carnivac seized upon his absence to reassert control of Mayhem. Going ahead with the frame-up scheme without Impactor, Carnivac specifically picked Springer to use as their fall-guy. Carnivac had him kidnapped and targeted anti-Cybertronian provocateur Megan Guiglione as the human Impactor's friend would kill. Controlling Springer with his outlier ability from the shadows, Carnivac made the [[Triple Changer]] take a shot at Guiglione in front of her supporters at a rally, only to unintentionally reveal that she was actually [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]] in a new Chimeracon alt-mode. Unwilling to let Springer be killed by Overlord, the other undercover Mayhem members present engaged, and were swiftly massacred. When Impactor arrived on the scene, a weakened and shame-faced Carnivac came out of hiding, admitting how badly he had screwed up. Impactor vowed to kill him once they had returned to their base with the disabled Springer.

[[File:RequiemoftheWreckers CarnivacMessageReceived.jpg|upright=0.6|thumb|Good bad dog.]]
Once they had returned and Carnivac had recharged, Impactor slugged him and demanded answers. Carnivac tried to justify his actions and aired out the full extent of Impactor's involvement in planning the original scheme in front of a horrified Springer. Springer denounced both Impactor and Carnivac, specifically telling the wolf that he expected better from someone who had served with Ultra Magnus and Stakeout. Springer and Impactor departed shortly thereafter to rescue the captive [[Verity Carlo]] from Overlord, leaving Carnivac to reflect on his actions. Springer's words seemed to have an effect on him, as he later showed up to stymie Overlord with a sonic howl at a critical moment in the following battle, allowing Springer to defeat the [[Phase Sixer]] once and for all. A somber Carnivac was later among those who received Springer's final message before entering the [[Timemaze]], being referred to by the Wrecker as someone who had proven able to make a great difference in the world. {{storylink|Transformers: Requiem of the Wreckers|Requiem of the Wreckers}}

===A Tale of the Pretenders===
With other Decepticon Pretenders, Carnivac was active in ancient [[Japan]]. One day, they came across three [[human]] siblings and threatened them. The oldest managed to escape and Carnivac afterwards pursued the remaining two with [[Iguanus (G1)|Iguanus]] while the other Decepticons followed. They were about to do bad things to the humans when [[Metalhawk (G1)|Metalhawk]] leapt to the rescue. Other Autobot Pretenders soon followed and the Decepticons were fought off. {{storylink|A Tale of the Pretenders}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
[[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] considered Carnivac to be a trusted ally and included him in a list of potential recruits for a new team of Wreckers. {{storylink|Tread & Circuits Part 4}}

===Energon Universe===

[[File:TF2023 no18 CarnivacShredhead.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Sorry, but [[Not Carnivac|Is Carnivac]] this time.]]
Stationed on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] near the [[Well of All Sparks|Well of Sparks]], Carnivac joined [[Bitstream (G1)|Bitstream]] and [[Hotlink (G1)|Hotlink]] in attacking [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]], [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], and [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]]. After a grenade stunned the Autobots, Carnivac told Hotlink to hold off on shooting Bluestreak, but only so Carnivac could transform into beast mode and feed on him instead. His meal was interrupted by a [[Shredhead|black van]], who immediately crashed into him. With the Autobot's foot pinning him down, Carnivac could only cry to Bitstream for help as Shredhead killed him with their energy sword. {{storylink|Transformers (2023) issue 18|Transformers #18}}
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==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
{{anchor|Generation 1}}
[[File:CarnivacG1Toy.gif|thumb|upright=1.66|He's hungry like the wolf!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Carnivac''' ([[Pretender Beast]], [[1988]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Wolf Pretender shell, tail, left & right shell shoulder armor, [[anti-thermal cannon]]
{{toydesigner|[[Masakatsu Saito]] (concept artist)|[[Richard Marcej]] (packaging)}}
:Released in the fifth year of the original ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' toyline (fourth year in European markets), Carnivac transforms into a robotic wolf. Inthis mode he folds up to fit inside his bestial outer [[Pretender]] Shell, which is modeled after an organic gray timber wolf with mechanical armor. His anti-thermal cannon can be attached to the shell or robot in any mode.

:Despite Carnivac having bronze-colored plastic, he does not suffer from [[Gold Plastic Syndrome]], as it is not of the swirled metallic variety. The color of the flexible plastic used on the tail and shoulder pads, however, tends to fade over time, though the plastic itself does not seep plasticizer like the later [[Pretender Monster]]s.

:No version of this mold or character was released in Japan.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1988/Decepticon/Carnivac/carnivac.htm More information on Carnivac at TFU.info]''
::*''[http://www.botchthecrab.com/archive/instructions/decepticon/1988/instr_carnivac.jpg Instruction booklet for Carnivac at Botchthecrab.com]''
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===''Age of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-AOTP-Deluxe-Carnivac.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Comeback of the century.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-wrmas|'''Carnivac vs. Fisitron''' (Multi-pack, [[2025]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': [[Survivor (AOTP)#Toys|Decepticon Survivor]] Titan Master, Blaster, Tail/Sword
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro)}}<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viJopRdWtZA ''Transformers'' panel] at [[Megacon Orlando#2025|Megacon Orlando 2025]] with [[Emily Bader]] and [[Evan Brooks]], recorded at the "V-man" YouTube channel.</ref>
:''[[Transformers: Age of the Primes|Age of the Primes]]'' Carnivac is a redeco of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' [[Weirdwolf (G1)#Titans Return|Wolfwire]] in the colors of the original toy's inner robot, with a new wolf tail/sword and blaster. He comes with his [[Titan Master]] partner, “[[Survivor (AOTP)#Toys|Decepticon Survivor]],” who transforms into a head based on Carnivac's head as it was drawn in “Time Wars,” and can sit inside a cockpit in the beast mode's rump. Amusingly, Carnivac's wolf head does not sport any retooling to accomodate the original toy's visor eyes; instead, the visor is merely painted over the original head that still retains its separate eyes.

:It is unknown if Carnivac retains any of the quality control issues of the original mold.

:Carnivac was released in a two-pack with [[Ironfist (G1)#Age of the Primes|Fisitron]], as part of the "Wreck 'n Doom Collection", which was exclusive to [[Amazon]] in the US and available in limited quantities on [[Hasbro Pulse]]. The set was teased at Megacon Orlando 2025 before being officially revealed at that year's [[Toy Fair|New York Toy Fair]].
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==Merchandise==
===''Transformers Character Card''===
[[File:Transformers Character Card Carnivac and Pretender Starscream.jpg|upright=1|thumb]]
*'''Carnivac & Starscream Set''' ([[November 1]], [[2022]])
**''ID number:'' '''35 & 36'''
:Released as part of the fifth wave of the [[e-HOBBY]] exclusive ''[[Transformers Character Card]]'' series, this pair of holographic trading cards depict super-deformed art of Carnivac and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] in his [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Pretender|Pretender body]] along with [[bio|character profiles]] and [[Tech Spec|tech specs]].
::*''[[Source:Transformers Character Card#35|Translation of Carnivac's Transformers Character Card]]''
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==Notes==
[[File:Carnivac headcomps.jpg|thumb|That's the way we became the Pretender Bunch.]]
*Carnivac's [[character model]], such as it was, varied a ''lot'' during the course of the Marvel comics, even when accounting for the widely variable styles of the UK book's many artists (see right). Sometimes he changed appearances under the same artist and even in the same issue. Although virtually no rendition of him bore any resemblance to his toy's head, often his head is derived from his instruction booklet art.
*His personality is likewise at odds with the crazed lunatic portrayed by his [[bio]]; though he originally plans to kill Springer and the Wreckers "smiling", in practice he is more of an honorable warrior, eventually taking up an Autobot-like role of protecting the innocent.
*If you've ever wondered why Carnivac's beast mode [[character model]] has an enormous cannon on top or why his rifle has a 5mm hole straight through it, it's because [[:File:G1_Carnivac_early_beast_shell.jpg|the rifle was originally mounted between the two backpack sections on top of the wolf, sliding on via a 5mm rod inside the shell]]. This was likely simplified just to make the rifle accessible to the robot in the same way as the other Pretender Beasts, without having to split the whole shell every time.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Carnivac''' (カーニバック ''Kānibakku'')
*''Italian:'' '''Ghigno''' ("Sneer")
*''Hungarian:'' '''Boncoló''' ("Dissector")

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[https://twitter.com/NickRoche/status/695727387535867904 Nick Roche's reference sketch for ''Sins of the Wreckers'' Carnivac]

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Lokos

2025-04-08T17:29:48Z

Kadeo: Added note about Lokos appearing in SS86 Optimus Prime's instructions. I don't know how to do hyperlinks properly so I didn't add any.

{{factions|{{factions/icons|custom=Z_Foundation.png|cSize=27x30px|cLink=Z Foundation}}|decepticon}}
:''Lokos is a [[Decepticon]]-allied [[Nebulan]] [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Lokos MTMTE.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Who you tryin' to get crazy with, ese? Don't you know I'm Lokos?!]]
'''Lokos''' is a veteran smuggler and air pirate by trade. He loves the power being a Headmaster gives him access to and uses it for his own enrichment. His partner [[Squeezeplay (G1)|Squeezeplay]] is fine with that as long as it means he gets to smash stuff. Lokos prefers doing things the sneaky way, but on the other hand, there is something quite enjoyable about holding the reins while such a monster machine goes to town.

Despite holding the awesome job of "air pirate" he styles his hair very much in the fashion of [[McDonald's|Ronald McDonald]].

He transforms into the head of Squeezeplay.

==Fiction==
===Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics===
[[File:Krebbriskolokos.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|(Right) Clearly the X-Men villain Arcade has wandered into the wrong room.]]

Lokos was recruited into the Decepticons on Nebulos and paired with Squeezeplay in the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] process. After arriving on Earth, he helped [[Zarak (G1)|Lord Zarak]] set up the [[Z Foundation]], a front company for the [[Decepticon]]s on [[Earth]]. Lokos went under the alias "Mr. L." Impenetrable disguise, really.

In an effort to attack the Autobots from a new angle, the Z Foundation began offering a $50,000 reward for the capture or destruction of any Transformer (they apparently drew no distinction between the factions in order to avoid arousing suspicion). Along with the similarly disguised [[Brisko]] and [[Kreb]], Lokos schooled a quartet of bounty hunters on the Transformers they would be hunting. Codenamed the [[Roadjammers]], these humans were equipped with [[jammer]] devices to prevent transformation or independent action by a single robot. Mr. L and his compatriots dispatched the Roadjammers to the [[Shawungunk Mountains]] area of New York, on a "hot tip" that some Autobots were in the vicinity. (In fact, they were prisoners of war released into the wild from a Decepticon detention facility on Cybertron, in order to test the Roadjammers' effectiveness.)

The Roadjammers indeed proved ''highly'' effective, capturing the Autobots [[Fizzle]], [[Sizzle (G1)|Sizzle]], and [[Backstreet (G1)|Backstreet]] in one afternoon. However, they were also too curious for their own good. After snooping around the Z Foundation, they discovered the inert bodies of Squeezeplay and the others' Decepticon partners. Catching their new employees in their investigation, Lokos and his partner unveiled their true forms and merged with the Decepticons. Unfortunately, the Roadjammers' tech-head [[Felix]] had rigged their jammers to control ''two'' Transformers instead of one apiece, placing both the Decepticons ''and'' Autobots under their control. Lord Zarak and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] were forced to intervene directly in the matter, which led to the escape of the Autobots and Roadjammers before Squeezeplay and his fellow Headmasters were freed. {{storylink|Ca$h and Car-nage!}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
When [[Squeezeplay (G1)|Squeezeplay]] perished in a [[Resistance]] attack on [[Tarn (polity)|Tarn]], he regretted that Lokos wasn't close enough to help him experience the majesty of his own death. {{storylink|Head Games}}

==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
[[File:G1-toy Lokos.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|One Lokos: A quarter the strength, still tastes like hobo pee.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Squeezeplay''' (Headmaster, 1988)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Richard Marcej]] (packaging)}}

: Released in the fifth year of the ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|The Transformers]]'' toyline (fourth year in the European line), Lokos is the Headmaster unit of Squeezeplay, forming the larger robot's head in its humanoid mode. Inserting him (or any other Headmaster unit) into Squeezeplay's neck will activate a spring-loaded mini-[[Tech Spec]] meter which gives readouts for Speed, Strength and Intelligence. Though ''all'' Headmaster heads plugged into Squeezeplay will display Lokos's Speed, Strength, and Intelligence readings (4, 8, 5) due to them being on one large sliding plate, plugging Lokos into any 1987-release Headmaster is designed to still activate individual tumblers in the older toys.

: Like all of the 1988 Headmaster partners, Lokos has Squeezeplay's face plainly visible on his back, lacking the face-obscuring flip-down panel of the larger 1987 Headmasters.

:Squeezeplay and Lokos were released in Japan as ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)#1988 (Super-God Masterforce)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' [[Cancer (G1)|Cancer]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1988/Decepticon/Lokos/lokos.htm More information on Lokos at TFU.info]''
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===''Titans Return''===
[[File:Crashbash titan master.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Sentinel Prime says you're a [[robo-chicken]], so you're a robo-chicken, recruit!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Crashbash''' (Titan Master, [[2016]])}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Gun/Dragon/Dinosaur
{{toydesigner|[[John Warden]] (Hasbro)|[[Emiliano Santalucia]] (concept artist)}}

{{note|Crashbash is based on Squeezeplay's head, and can be considered a new toy of Lokos.}}

: Part of the first wave of Titan Master figures in the ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' subline, Crashbash (renamed for trademark reasons) can interact with other figures from the line. As a robot he can ride on Legends Class figures in their alt modes, and can be plugged on every Deluxe, Voyager, or Leader figure. He comes with his vehicle partner, that can transform into a dragon (which can be ridden by Crashbash in bot mode), a dinosaur (which is completed by Crashbash forming its lower jaw and arms) or a gun that can be used by larger figures...although it looks like a dinosaur lying down and shooting with its butt and feet, but you can remove the Titan Master in gun mode anyway.

: The instructions had a slight error: The wing/stomach parts were shown closed in steps 6-8, even they told you to open them in step 5. Although stock renders had the dinosaur head's eyes being painted blue, the final product painted them lime.

: As with most Titan Master vehicle accessories, care must be taken with the gun mode's handle: the handle fits tightly in many 5mm-compatible closed hands, and combined with the handle's lack of metal pin running through the joint, removing it by force causes the handle to pop out of the joint. This is incredibly common when inserting the gun mode into the base modes of leader class toys like Blaster and Soundwave, whose holes are too small for Crashbash's post. Get some pliers ready.

: Crashbash was originally designed by [[Emiliano Santalucia]] as a new character, and sported an original head mode design. The mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Overkill (G1)#Generations|Overboard]] and retooled into [[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Clobber|Clobber]]. Takara released the head as [[Cancer (G1)#Legends|Cancer]] along with [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Legends|Shockwave]], while its partner was redecoed as [[Butla]] and [[Servant]], [[Skullcruncher (G1)#Legends|Skull]] and [[Mindwipe (G1)#Legends|Wipe]]'s partners. The partner also served as the model for the non-toy ''[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]'' incarnation of the [[Diagnostic Drone#Beast Wars: Uprising|Diagnostic Drone]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2016/Decepticon/TRCrashbash/crashbash.htm More information on ''Titans Return'' Crashbash at TFU.info]''
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===''Legacy''===
[[File:LegacyLokos.jpg|upright=0.66|thumb|One Doritos Lokos Taco, please]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{bp-multi|'''Prime Universe Cliffjumper VS Beast Wars Universe Tarantulas, G1 Universe Squeezeplay, Cyberverse Universe Tarn''' (Multi-pack, [[2024]])}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Mark Maher]] (Hasbro), [[Shogo Hasui]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref>[[March 28]], [[2024]]'s [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlrpW_ZFKvE Hasbro Pulse | Transformers 40th Anniversary Fanstream | March 28, 2024] on YouTube, with [[Ben MacCrae]], [[Evan Brooks]], [[Mark Maher]], [[Kelly Rose]], and [[Matt Ferguson]].</ref>

: ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]'' "G1 Universe Lokos" is a [[retool]] of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' [[Vorath#Toys|Vorath]], transforming into a head for his pack-in partner "[[Squeezeplay (G1)#Legacy|G1 Universe Squeezeplay]]", though his new tooling is based much more closely on the animation models for ''Masterforce'' Cancer. Even the smaller robot head has the large face-shield of Cancer's cartoon armor rather than the mouthplate-and-eyes form of the original toy.

: Lokos and Squeezplay came in a [[Target]]-[[exclusive]] four-pack, along with [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Legacy|Prime Universe Cliffjumper]], [[Tarantulas (BW)/toys#United|Beast Wars Universe Tarantulas]], and [[Tarn (Cyberverse)#Legacy|Cyberverse Universe Tarn]].

::*''[https://www.instagram.com/p/C52AN8xMxYI/ Designer commentary on ''Legacy'' Lokos from Mark Maher on Instagram]''
==Notes==

• ''Legacy'' Lokos appears in Studio Series 86 Optimus Prime's instructions, demonstrating how Roller can seat Titan Masters.

==References==
{{reflist}}

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Holomatter

2025-02-28T15:56:29Z

Kadeo: Changed Whirl's holomatter 'Mac-10's to 'Uzi's because i'm a gun nerd and the guns are very clearly uzis and not mac 10s.

[[File:Ratchet Holomatter.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Please state the nature of the [[Pīpō|medical emergency]].]]
'''Holomatter''' is a solid-light projection technology, used by [[Autobot]]s operating on alien worlds. Holomatter projectors can create projected facsimiles of native species which are too small or [[Human|fleshy]] for the Autobots to mimic with their mechanical [[Alternate mode|altmodes]]. The avatar isn't just a friendly image to fool human beings; it's also the Autobot equivalent of a remotely operated vehicle, allowing Autobots to go places and perform actions that would otherwise be prevented by their size and the need to camouflage their true identities. Having an avatar in a location is like the Autobot being there themself. An avatar can function up to at least 400 miles away from the controlling Autobot, even when separated by solid walls.

The avatar is created and maintained by "holomatter generators". They can cause the avatar to blink into sudden existence with no warning. Holomatter avatars can be intangible, or as solid as a real object. Much like [[Pretender]] shells before them, holomatter avatars carry a strong connection to the consciousness of its generating Autobot. Damage to the avatar can cause severe impairment to the controlling Autobot if their consciousness is not withdrawn in time. Holomatter disguises are also limited by their operator's understanding of the lifeform they mimic.

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
All the Autobots operating covertly on [[Earth]] used holomatter avatars to act as their [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] drivers. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 1|Infiltration #1}} Through a lack of understanding of humans, the holomatter avatars of the Autobots wore a fixed smile which their human friends found creepy, and the male Autobots [[Bumblebee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Bumblebee]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Sunstreaker]] had female avatars. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 3|Infiltration #3}}

[[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]] was able to deliver a massive electrical surge at very close range through his holomatter avatar. This was powerful enough to stun [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]], though at the cost of burning out Ratchet's holomatter generators. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 2|Infiltration #2}}

After [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] arrived on Earth, [[Hunter O'Nion|Hunter]] gave the Autobots a "crash course in Earth culture"; [[Jazz (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Jazz]] noted that the Autobots never realized that humans found the smiles of their avatars disturbing. After this, the Autobots' holomatter avatars became much more expressive. {{storylink|Escalation issue 1|Escalation #1}}

In a [[Psycho-Prism]] fueled battle between Autobots and [[Avengers]], [[Bumblebee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Bumblebee]] used his avatar to distract [[Luke Cage]]. [[Wolverine (Marvel)|Wolverine]] was not fooled since the holomatter projection gave off no scent. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two}} After that misunderstanding was resolved, vehicle mode Autobots used their holomatter avatars to carry on conversations with the Avengers and [[Doctor Doom]]. {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Two|Man and Machine, Parts Two,}} {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Three|Three,}} {{storylink|Man and Machine, Part Four|and Four}}

Holomatter could be detected by devices called "holomatter readers", which the [[Machination]] possessed. {{storylink|Escalation issue 4|Escalation #4}} Ironhide's avatar was capable of lifting [[Verity Carlo]] and [[Jimmy Pink]] at the same time, and he could increase the size of his avatar to over 9' (3m) tall so as to manhandle the pair through a hole in the ceiling. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6|Escalation #6}}

[[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] and [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] used their holomatter avatars to trick [[Sandra (G1)|Sandra]] into coming with them, to help in their investigation of [[Spike Witwicky (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Spike]]. {{storylink|Police Action Part 2: Only Forward|Only Forward}}

Over time, the long-range projection of holomatter avatars fell out of common use because of the energy cost and total concentration required (as well as the fact that hair never looked right). Ratchet used this technology to distract the traitorous [[Pharma (G1)|Pharma]] during their fight, and used it to retrieve the cure to the [[Red Rust]] virus when Pharma dropped it off Delphi's roof. {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}}

[[Rung (G1)|Rung]] and [[Brainstorm (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Brainstorm]] modified the holomatter avatars of the ''[[Lost Light]]'' crew to better reflect their personalities. The avatars were used during a trip to [[Hedonia]] to avoid annoying some of the more mech-unfriendly locals. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}} Several crew members later used their holomatter avatars to search for [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] on the bartender's projection of Earth. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}

The [[Scavengers (G1)|Scavengers]] used holomatter avatars to blend in with the natives on [[Magisteria VI]]. {{storylink|Some Of My Best Friends Are Autobots}} [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] and [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] disguised themselves as [[M.A.S.K.]] agents on a visit to Earth, but their poor grasp of human design led to some issues. {{storylink|Nothing Will Ever Be the Same Again!}}

====Known avatars====
<gallery widths="150px" heights="100px">
File:Bluestreak Avatar.jpg|'''[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]]'''—An ambiguously brown young woman in fashionably ripped, pink/purple clothes. Wears hoop earrings, a studded belt with Autobot belt buckle, and a blue MP3 player with headphones. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:Bumblebeeholomatter.jpg|'''[[Bumblebee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Bumblebee]]'''—Brunette white/Hispanic female in a tank top and jeans, based on {{w|Lindsay Lohan}}.<ref name=idea>[https://web.archive.org/web/20160322111449/http://www.protodepot.com/archive/2007_11_01_archive.html Idea: Holomatter Projection]</ref> {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration ''et al''}}
File:TheOneWhereTheyGoToEarth-chromedome.jpg|'''[[Chromedome (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Chromedome]]'''—Young, gangly white man with blond hair, wearing a red sweater, khaki pants, and a white overshirt. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:TheOneWhereTheyGoToEarth-cyclonus.jpg|'''[[Cyclonus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Cyclonus]]'''—Stern, handsome woman of Middle Eastern or South Asian descent, dressed like a Victorian school teacher in various shades of purple. Features a hair accessory that evokes his horns. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:PrimelessPart2-HolomatterAvatars.jpg|'''[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]]''' and '''[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]'''—Vincent Vega and Jules Winnfield from {{w|Pulp Fiction}}. {{storylink|Primeless, Part 2}} Given their later affinity for movie making, {{storylink|Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie}} it's possible this was a deliberate choice.
File:OnlyForward Holomatter Groove.jpg|'''[[Groove (G1)|Groove]]'''—White police officer in black uniform with a white helmet, riding Groove's motorcycle mode. {{storylink|Police Action Part 2: Only Forward}}
File:Hotrodholomatter.jpg|'''[[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Hot Rod]]'''—Heavily built white man with brown hair in a ponytail and a shirt unbuttoned to expose his chest. Basically {{w|Steven Seagal}}, then. {{storylink|The Transformers: Devastation|Devastation}}
File:MTMTE43 Rodimus's holoavatar.jpg|Later, as '''Rodimus''', he was <s>the physical embodiment of the 80s</s> a young, white male with a flame tattoo and [[Marty McFly]]'s outfit (with the addition of an [[Autobot]] T-shirt and minus most of the sleeves). {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:Infiltration6 Holomatter Ironhide.jpg|'''[[Ironhide (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ironhide]]'''—Older "military brass-type" white male with well-groomed silver hair and mustache and a gray suit. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration ''et al''}}
File:Infiltration6 Holomatter Jazz.jpg|'''[[Jazz (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Jazz]]'''—Young black male with a close-cropped fade and a thin chin goatee. Wears a black suit and grey tie. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration ''et al''}}
File:MTMTE43 the old man.jpg|'''[[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]'''—Elderly white man resembling a retired super-villain, with a scarred and lined face resembling the [[Decepticon]] insignia. Wears a long coat and a skull belt buckle (and initially carried a Decepticon insignia cane). {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:MTMTE Revolution-alex.jpg|'''[[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]]'''—"Alex 'Anti-Spill' Higgins", a male [[M.A.S.K.]] agent in armour loosely resembling Misfire. Lacking the necessary knowledge to replicate a human visage, "Alex"'s face is a poorly-composited cyclopean affair. {{storylink|Nothing Will Ever Be the Same Again!}}
File:TheOneWhereTheyGoToEarth-nautica.jpg|'''[[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]]'''—White woman with short, auburn hair, wearing a purple turtleneck and a mechanic's overalls, equipped with a tool belt and googles around her neck. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:TheOneWhereTheyGoToEarth-nightbeat.jpg|'''[[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]]'''—{{w|Idris Elba}} as {{w|Luther (TV series)|Luther}}, a handsome, bearded black man, wearing a dark trenchcoat, blue shirt, and yellow tie. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:Primeholomatter.jpg|'''[[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]]'''—A well-built white trucker with a brown beard and a blue or red shirt and cap. Modelled after {{w|Ulysses S. Grant}}.<ref name=idea/> {{storylink|The Transformers: Escalation|Escalation}}
File:Infiltration6 Holomatter Prowl.jpg|'''[[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]'''—A "federal agent"-type: ginger hair, receding hairline, middle-aged white male with dark sunglasses and a gray suit. In short: {{w|Horatio Caine}}. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration ''et al''}}
File:Ratchetholomatter.jpg|'''[[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]]'''—Blond, middle-aged, sightly hefty white male. Wears an EMT uniform, minus the jacket. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration ''et al''}}
File:MTMTE13 Rewind's holomatter avatar.jpg|'''[[Rewind (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Rewind]]'''—Blond, spiky-haired, young white male with goatee, wearing cargo pants and a black T-shirt for {{w|The Divine Comedy (band)|The Divine Comedy}}. Carries a video camera. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}}
File:MtMtE13 Holomatter Rung.jpg|'''[[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'''—A tall, thin, bespectacled white nebbish with graying hair, wearing a green sweater vest, dark shirt, and an orange formal suit and cap. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}}
File:MTMTE13 cvrA Rung.jpg|Later, Rung appears as a short, thin, red-haired white man in a dark, patterned waistcoat, a wingtip-collared shirt with rolled up sleeves, a salmon cravat, tan trousers, and gloves. Wears steampunk-ish spectacles, and sometimes a brown overcoat. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:Magisteria vi some of my best friends are autobots.jpg|'''[[Scavengers (G1)|Scavengers]]'''—At least three of the team, including [[Fulcrum]], had avatars resembling the inhabitants of [[Magisteria VI]]. {{storylink|Some Of My Best Friends Are Autobots}}
File:MtMtE13 Holomatter Skids.jpg|'''[[Skids (G1)|Skids]]'''—A white male with a floppy brown side parting and a prominent chin. Dressed in a blue suit jacket, and trousers, a red V-neck sweater, and a blue bow tie. Essentially a palette swap of {{w|Matt Smith}} as the [[Doctor (Doctor Who)|Eleventh Doctor]]. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}}
File:TheOneWhereTheyGoToEarth Skids shut up.jpg|Skids' second avatar is straight up just {{w|Christopher Eccleston}} as the [[Doctor (Doctor Who)|Ninth Doctor]]: a gaunt, middle-aged white man with close-cropped black hair and prominent ears and nose. Wears a leather jacket, a red V-neck top, and jeans. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:MTMTE13 cvrA Skids.jpg|At some stage, Skids may have had an avatar of a blond, middle-aged white man with an aquiline nose and a sharp grey suit. Basically {{w|Daniel Craig}} as {{w|James Bond}}. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues|Cybertronian Homesick Blues (cover only)}}
File:MTMTE Revolution-dennis.jpg|'''[[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]]'''—"Dennis 'Suds' Taylor", a towering female M.A.S.K. agent in armour resembling Spinister. Underneath is another helmet, showing a total lack of imagination is not such a bad thing after all. {{storylink|Nothing Will Ever Be the Same Again!}}
File:OnlyForward Holomatter Streetwise.jpg|'''[[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]]'''—A white police man in full uniform. Has a sensible, brown hairstyle and aviators. {{storylink|Police Action Part 2: Only Forward}}
File:Infiltration6 Holomatter Sunstreaker.jpg|'''[[Sunstreaker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Sunstreaker]]'''—Conventionally attractive, white adult woman with blonde hair and minimalist makeup. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration}}
File:Huntstreaker.jpg|After becoming a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]], Sunstreaker's avatar is a copy of his partner [[Hunter O'Nion]], while the actual Hunter is secreted away somewhere in Sunstreaker's vehicle mode. {{storylink|The Transformers: Maximum Dinobots|Maximum Dinobots}}
File:CybertronianHomesickBlues-holomatterswerve.jpg|'''[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'''—A short, rotund white male "surfer" type with prominent body hair, wearing a Hawaiian shirt, shorts, sandals, and wraparound sunglasses. On [[Hedonia]], he carried Tailgate around in a papoose (see below). {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}}
File:TheFrailGaze Oh boy.jpg|At some point during the ''[[Lost Light]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s second voyage, Swerve allowed his body to fall into neglect, and he interacted with the crew solely through an avatar of himself. This only became evident to his crewmates when his avatar vanished while he was tending bar. {{storylink|The Frail Gaze}}
File:TheOneWhereTheyGoToEarth Planet Swearth.jpg|As his condition worsened, a combination of factors led to Swerve's overloading holomatter generator to create a life-size replica of Earth as depicted in an amalgam of his favourite sitcoms. Rodimus dubbed the planet "[[Swearth]]". {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:TheOneWhereTheyGoToEarth Three Swerves Yes.jpg|Swearth's inhabitants included a trio of wacky room-mates: priest Ted, dermatologist Sheldon, and schlubby comedian Jerry–each of whom represented a facet of Swerve's personality, with their infighting representing his self-loathing. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:TheOneWhereTheyGoToEarth Amalgam Swerve.jpg|After becoming aware of his predicament, Swerve's three avatars recombined into a more conventional representation of Swerve, now with longish, swept back hair, a white V-neck Tee, a light grey, unbuttoned shirt, and jorts. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:MtMtE13-BabyTailgate.jpg|'''[[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]]'''—A white infant with a curl of blond hair, wearing a blue frilly romper and a white hat with the letter "T" on it. Has a pacifier. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}}
File:TheOneWhereTheyGoToEarth Tailgate avatar.jpg|Tailgate's later avatar is a pale female toddler with white hair, wearing a dungaree dress, long socks, and Mary Janes. The "T" hat now better resembles a sailor cap, and a blue visor hangs down beneath it. {{storylink|The One Where They Go to Earth}}
File:SpotlightUltraMagnus_MagnusHoloavatar.jpg|'''[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ultra Magnus]]''' infiltrates the [[Zarak Consortium]] building by replicating at least four of its employees, all of whom are peach-skinned, white-eyed [[Nebulan]]s. They include an armoured security guard, a besuited director of marketing, a man in a HAZMAT suit, and a scientist in a white labcoat. {{storylink|Spotlight: Ultra Magnus}}
File:MtMtE13-VerityMagnus.jpg|Ultra Magnus later chooses to make his avatar a copy of his old friend, [[Verity Carlo]]. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}}
File:Infiltration6 Holomatter Wheeljack.jpg|'''[[Wheeljack (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Wheeljack]]'''—Balding "mad scientist"-type older white male with blond/white hair, glasses, goatee, and a white Nehru jacket. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration ''et al''}}
File:Whirlholomatter.jpg|'''[[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]]'''—A young white girl with blue pigtails, an eyepatch, and a missing front tooth. Wears a pale T-shirt, dungaree shorts, knee-high stripey socks, and Mary Janes. Alarmingly, carries two Uzi machine pistols. {{storylink|Cybertronian Homesick Blues}}
File:PredestinationABeginnersGuide WhirlBraidingHair.jpg|Whirl's later avatar is a teenaged punk version of the former, adding twin-pronged eyebrows, studded fingerless gloves, spiky arm- and knee-pads, combat boots, and chains. Wears a watch on each wrist (aww). {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}}
</gallery>

===Live-action film series===
The Decepticons [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] maintained their ruse of being human-driven vehicles by using a holographic pilot or driver known as [[Moustache Man]]. {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}} [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] created a holo-driver for himself in the likeness of [[Peter Cullen]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 1|Alliance #1}} [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] and [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]] each used a holographic rider. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}} [[Mohawk]] sported a holographic rider. {{storylink|Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|The Last Knight}}

<gallery>
File:Movie MustacheMan.jpg|Blackout, Barricade, Starscream
File:AllianceOptimusHoloDriver.jpg|Optimus Prime
</gallery>

===Unicron Trilogy bios===
[[Strongarm (Cybertron)|Strongarm]] was equipped with a holomatter projector.<ref>[http://www.transformersclub.com/ Official Transformers Collectors' Club site] members' section, Micro-Sized Online! Mini-Con Profiles, 2007/03/02</ref>

===Ask Vector Prime===
The [[Thirteen]] and the [[Guiding Hand]] visited Earth in the days of ancient [[Greece]], utilizing holomatter to interact with the humans while the Thirteen themselves sat at the top of [[Mount Olympus|a mountain]] since Earth technology at the time was not developed enough for them to be able to assume inconspicuous disguises. Their presence on Earth inspired the legends of the {{w|Twelve Olympians}}. [[Vector Prime]] presented himself as {{w|Hermes}}; [[Prima]] as {{w|Zeus}}; [[Onyx Prime|Onyx]] as {{w|Artemis}}; [[Last Autobot|Autonomous Maximus]] as {{w|Apollo}}; [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] as {{w|Ares}}; [[Nexus Prime|Nexus Maximus]] as {{w|Hera}}; [[Liege Maximo|Liege]] as {{w|Aphrodite}}; [[Solus Prime]] as {{w|Hephaestus}}; [[Alpha Trion (WFC)|Alpha Trion]] as {{w|Athena}}; and [[Alchemist Prime]] as {{w|Dionysus}}; [[Epistemus]] as {{w|Demeter}}; [[Adaptus]] as {{w|Poseidon}}; and [[Mortilus]] as {{w|Hades}}.

Vector Prime sometimes had difficulty finding depictions of himself and his fellow Olympians that did not trip the [[Axiom Nexus Auto-Censors]], due to frequent depictions of his external socket configuration. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/14}}

After the Shroud, the Vector Prime of [[Nexus 208.0 Epsilon]] was dispatched to Nebulos, where he planned to disguise himself as a factory and use his holomatter avatar to interact with the locals. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/11/01 }} Taking the appearance of an elderly Caucasian human male, dressed in a dark suit with accompanying opera cape, Vector's hope was his apparent status as a non-native would cover any gaps in his knowledge of the planet to the native Nebulans. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime|Ask Vector Prime, 2016/02/15}}

<gallery>
File:Hermes.jpg|Vector Prime
File:Prima's Holomatter Avatar Zeus.jpg|Prima
File:AutonomousApolloAVPHolomatter.jpg|Autonomous Maximus
File: OnyxArtemisAVPHolomatter.jpg|Onyx Prime
File:AphroditeLiegeMaximoAVP.jpg|Liege Maximo
File:HephaestusSolusPrimeAVP.jpg|Solus Prime
File:DionysusAlchemistPrimeAVP.jpg|Alchemist Prime
File:DemeterEpistemusAVP.jpg|Epistemus
File:AresMegatronusAVP.jpg|Megatronus
File:HeraNexusPrimeAVP.jpg|Nexus Prime (right) with Prima
File:PoseidonAdaptusAVP.jpg|Adaptus
File:HadesMortilusAVP.jpg|Mortilus
File:AthenaAlphaTrionAVP.jpg|Alpha Trion
</gallery>

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
Human-built [[second-born intellect]]s such as [[Screwball]] and [[Pox]] interacted with their organic [[Confederated Terran Colonial Fleet|CTCF]] colleagues through holomatter avatars, which could be easily and quickly customized to encompass a wide variety of contradictory and sometimes fantastical appearances. {{storylink|Intersectionality}} {{storylink|The Inexorable March}}

==Toys==
===''Masterpiece''===
*'''Loudpedal''' ([[2016]])
:A recolor of the Raoul figurine released with ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Tracks (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Tracks]], this time Raoul is done up in his deco from "[[Auto-Bop]]" but is otherwise the same. Technically, this figure represents '''C Shadow''', the human musician alter-ego of [[Loudpedal]]'s holomatter avatar.

*'''Reboost''' ([[2021]])
:''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Reboost]] includes a colorless transparent repaint (''de''paint?) of the [[Spike Witwicky (G1)#MP47|Spike Witwicky]] figure included with [[Hound (G1)/toys#Masterpiece|Hound]] which represents a holomatter avatar.

==Notes==
*Holomatter bears a resemblance to the [[solid light simulation]]s from the Marvel comics, also created by Simon Furman, based on TV show ''Red Dwarf''.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Holobussitsu avatar''' (ホロ物質アバター ''horobussitsu abatā''), '''holomatter avatar''' (ホロマター・アバター ''horomatā abatā''), '''solid light avatar''' (ソリッドライト・アバター ''soliddo raito abatā'')

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Cybertron technology]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) technology]]
[[Category:Movie technology]]

Talk:Mini-Vehicle

2025-02-27T13:20:21Z

Kadeo: /* FFOD part 5 */

==Untitled==
Is 'Minibots' actually an official term? I'm pretty sure they were never called that in any catalogues or fiction. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 21:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:I had the same question.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:16, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:I believe it was used in the Marvel comics, at least early on. Does anybody have them handy? I mostly read 'em at the library or from the used-to-was scan archives online. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 21:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:: The toy catalogs list them as Minicars and then Mini Vehicles, as toys like Powerglide and Cosmos were added. If it's not from there, I wonder where "Minibots" came from. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::"Minicars" I'm quite familiar with. Perhaps we should change the name? That still leaves "Mini Vehicles" but it's reasonably clear, as Walky suggests, that this is simply because the year 2 "mini-whatevers" were no longer cars. "Minibots" may be an attempt to bridge the gap, but then we must consider it a "fan" term.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

What was the Takara reissiue called? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 23:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget the Sparkler Mini-Bots. That, at least, is official.

er, that was me. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 00:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Folks:

Hm. I couldn't find the term "Minibot" in any of my comic issues, but then I don't have many, and none of them are the 'character' pieces that I (think I) remember the term from. It may be a fan term, but it's a fan term with wide comprehension, so perhaps we should keep using it, and try to find the history of the term, as was done with 'seeker'? I don't think 'fan' terms are a bad thing; after all, the fans are the 'scholars' of this branch of knowledge, and if a fan term is in common use then why not use it? Comprehension is the important thing with language, and even logic or consistency must bow before it, except with the French, but who counts them, really! --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 11:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

: I think we should have the main page at "Mini Vehicles" (sp?), and redirects at "Minicars" and "Minibots", and mention that "Minibots" is a fan term, at least until someone can find any offical mateial that says otherwise. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

::Fortmax -- Well, I for one tend to respectfully disagree on this. I guess we are looking at this from different angles: enlightening the heathens vs. pandering to the masses. It's true that a fan term (if this is indeed a fan term) doesn't have the 'canonical' sanction of the official one, but I believe that in this case the term "Minibots" has the widest recognition, and will be clear to the most people, which (I believe) is what an encyclopedia such as this is all about. For a similar example, take the term 'combiner'. I believe, though I am not sure, that the only canonical term used was 'special teams' (until recent times, that is) but the fan term is understood by many more people. On the other hand, the question of promoting the proper term is a valid one. Hmm. I need to find time to go to the library and read up on my early G1 comics. The phrase 'the little yellow Minibot' comes to mind, somehow. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 18:12, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Sorry, Autobus, but the others are right. "Minibot" deserves a section in the fandom category, but it's not an official term, and so we shouldn't use it on the Wiki. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::"Combiner" was used in an official capacity during ''RiD''. So, even if it was originally a fan term (I would guess so), it is now canonical. "Special team" is a more restrictive term, applying only to Scramble City combiners. Regarding Seeker: that term is now official also, although just barely, I will admit. Prior to its inclusion in a War Within comic, there was a movement within the fandom to switch from Seeker to Skyraider, a term with an official basis (beyond just appearing in one JC Penny's catalog) and a more accurately evocative feel. As others have noted, I absolutely think the term Minibot should be mentioned in the Mini Vehicles article, and there should be a Minibot article to redirect here. We don't want to obscure the term, we just want to give preference to the official one. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll get right on that a few hours ago. ;) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:09, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

In the UK Comic, they were pretty consistently called 'Mini-Autobots'. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 03:48, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the term "Minibot" WAS used officially at least once... in the Marvel UK comics, issue #44, Laserbeak refers to Bumblebee as a Minibot.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f321/venjix/laserbeak_minibot_panel.jpg

== Category:Mini Vehicles ==
''(Originally at Talk:Fastback)''

I know he shares a character model with Outback, but I'm not sure he belongs in the Mini Vehicle category. "Mini Vehicle" is kind of a toy-only concept it—doesn't really mean anything in the comics, so I don't think comic-only characters belong. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:13, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

:Perhaps we should take this to the Mini Vehicle talk page, given this is talk about the definition of 'Mini Vehicle'. My opinion is that whatever shares a mold with the officially designated Minibots (a term, btw, used in fiction in the Marvel comics, so that's one argument against the removal of Wipe-Out from the category at least) can be classified a Minibot, whether they have a toy or not. Much as fiction doesn't do much with the concept, it doesn't completely ignore it either. And also, I'm pretty sure there's no telling whether a Mini Vehicle has to be an Autobot or not - I'm pretty sure faction never was part of their definition. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:19, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
::Yes it should be discussed there. Right now Fastback, [[Wipe-Out]], [[Subsea]], and [[Flattop (Marvel)|Flattop]] are not listed as Mini Vehicles on the Mini Vehicle page. Maybe they should be added. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 02:35, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
::Also [[Sedan (Robocar)]]. He is a Robocar. Whatever a Robocar is, it doesn't appear to be a Mini Vehicle. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 02:56, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
:::I figured Sedan was good to go as Mini Vehicle, seeing as he appears to be a more or less official release of Bumper. Now, unless that is not agreed upon, we only have the fiction-only characters left to discuss: Subsea, Flattop, Fastback and Wipe-Out. As stated before, while fiction doesn't do much with the whole idea of Minibots, it is not entirely ignorant of it either, sometimes naming the group or otherwise intentionally teaming them up. As such, I feel that just because there is no toy, that does not mean fiction-only characters automatically are not Mini Vehicles. Especially in the case of mold-sharers Fastback and Wipe-Out I'd find it off not to declare them Minibots as well, given that "height & vehicle altmode" pretty much are the only defining traits for Minibots that we know of. Moreso, "Autobot", far as I know, is not a Mini Vehicle trait, even if most belong to that category. What with [[Talk:Malignus (G1)|Malignus=Decepticon]] and those characters apparently viewed/stated to be Mini Vehicles, I think the intro paragraph should be altered to reflect that. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:19, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
::::[[Sedan (Robocar)|Sedan]] is a "Robocar." I have no idea what that is. The Takara [[G1 GoBots|GoBots]] use Mini Vehicle toys but are something completely different. Robocars could also be something completely different as far as I know. I really don't know how Marvel UK treats Mini Vehicles (what makes a Mini Vehicle a Mini-Vehicle fictionally?) I haven't read [[Underworld!]], but Flattop and Subsea seem like good candidates since they are teamed with another Mini Vehicle and are all the same height. But unless they are all called Mini Vehicles in the issue, that is circumstantial evidence.
::::As for Wipe-Out, Shockwave asked Ratbat for one Decepticon warrior and Ratbat sent two. So Wipe-Out might be a guy that just comes along with Trypticon, like [[Full-Tilt (G1)|Full-Tilt]]. In which case he might be more of a component transformer. But Wipe-Out seems fully autonomous, so I don't know. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:41, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::I am not familiar with the GoBots' story. Did they keep their original bodies or did they adapt them when they came to the G1 verse? Because in the latter case I'd say there's room to consider them Mini Vehicles too.
:::::Aside from the earlier description, I don't think there's any clear definition for "Mini Vehicle" ever given in-fiction. Members of the toy-group get named 'so' once in a while, but that's about it. Only the name appears a straight answer to what they are.
:::::Even better, all of the Autobots appearing in Underworld! are Mini Vehicles: Tailgate, Outback and Pipes. Since Flattop and Subsea are of the same height and story-circumstance... well, you know my opinion.
:::::In the case of Wipe-Out, it seems to me the guy is Trypticon's personal servant. Where the cityformer goes, he goes (because he has no other use), so if you send Trypticon as "one", you automatically get two (well, until the end of KotH at least). There is no hint he'd be a part of Trypticon like Full-Tilt is.

== "altered them to match the local life forms" ==

That line from the write up of the [[G1 GoBots]] would seem to me to indicate the possibility that the new forms of the characters are Mini Vehicles as well. At least enough so that a mention should be made somewhere on this page. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:33, 10 December 2009 (EST)
:That might mean they disguised themselves as Mini Vehicles, but they are still GoBots—for example: they are still cyborgs. So maybe a "disguised as Mini Vehicles" section? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:44, 10 December 2009 (EST)
::Sounds good to me. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:46, 10 December 2009 (EST)

== UK comic ==

The "Notes" section in [[Underworld!]] sound kinda like "Mini-Autobots" might have been acknowledged in the comic something relevant to fiction and not just the toys. I never read the issue. Are the cadets called "Mini-Autobots" or anything? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:20, 18 October 2010 (EDT)

== Mexican releases ==
Should we list the Mexican variants? Especially seeing as how one has been retconned into a proper character, [[Rest-Q]]. --[[User:Terrortron|Terrortron]] 22:46, 20 December 2010 (EST)

== Variant Cliff & Bee? ==

hey all, been a while since i've been around, but i was just perusing some articles, and noticed that no mention is made of Yellow Cliffjumper or Red Bumblebee on the Mini Vehicle page. It seems kinda like a glaring oversight, so i thought there may be a reason they were left out and should ask before adding them. They are referenced on the individual CJ & BB pages, so it seems rather curious. o_O [[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 15:50, 7 April 2012 (EDT)

== 1st release case count ==

What was the case count on the first year minicars? Was it 6 (1 per case of each) or 12 (2 per case) or something else? Could this be why Bumper was bumped? Just an attempt to make a more convenient distribution of figures? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 21:18, 21 February 2019 (EST)

== "M" for Mysterians? ==
With the info revealed in Chris McFeely's new video on some previously unknown aspects of the history of the Transformers brand, Muffy and the Mysterians, that the toys that would later become Brawn, Huffer, Windcharger, and Gears may have been designed not originally by Takara, but by Knickerbocker for their Mysterians line and somehow the designs made it to Takara, and the stylized "M" molded on those 4 of the original 7 Microchange robots may not stand for for "Microchange" as originally thought, but for "Mysterians", should the notes section of this page be updated to reflect that? --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] ([[User talk:Jeddostotle7|talk]]) 01:19, 18 August 2020 (EDT)

== Name/Move Proposal ==
The 1985 US pack-in catalog (the main image on the page) is the only instance of "Mini-Vehicle" not having a hyphen in it. The hyphen is present in the 1985 Hasbro Toy Fair catalog, the 1985 UK pack-in catalog, the pre-1986 and final 1986 Hasbro Toy Fair catalogs, and the 1986 pack-in catalog. By preponderance of evidence, this page needs to be moved, and... something done with the "Mini-Vehicle" redirect that goes to [[Robot Powered Machines]]. Compared to the G1 subgroup, nobody's ever going to look those up. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 17:07, 19 June 2023 (EDT)
:I agree. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:27, 22 August 2023 (EDT)
::Yeah, the lack of a hyphen feels like a very "old wiki" thing that should be corrected. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 23:13, 22 August 2023 (EDT)
:::Good idea. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 17:08, 11 August 2024 (EDT)

== FFOD part 5 ==

Should the Mini-Vehicle crew led by Warpath and Pipes in FFOD part 5 be mentioned anywhere? It was made entirely up of mini-vehicles. Maybe a tongue-in-cheek 'The original Ark Volcano Base was staffed seemingly entirely by mini-vehicles as of 2005, as they were the only autobots to respond to Trypticon's assault on the Volcano.' in the fiction section. -[[User:Kadeo|Kadeo]] ([[User talk:Kadeo|talk]]) 08:20, 27 February 2025 (EST)

Talk:Mini-Vehicle

2025-02-27T13:20:09Z

Kadeo: /* FFOD part 5 */

==Untitled==
Is 'Minibots' actually an official term? I'm pretty sure they were never called that in any catalogues or fiction. - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 21:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:I had the same question.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:16, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:I believe it was used in the Marvel comics, at least early on. Does anybody have them handy? I mostly read 'em at the library or from the used-to-was scan archives online. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 21:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:: The toy catalogs list them as Minicars and then Mini Vehicles, as toys like Powerglide and Cosmos were added. If it's not from there, I wonder where "Minibots" came from. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
:::"Minicars" I'm quite familiar with. Perhaps we should change the name? That still leaves "Mini Vehicles" but it's reasonably clear, as Walky suggests, that this is simply because the year 2 "mini-whatevers" were no longer cars. "Minibots" may be an attempt to bridge the gap, but then we must consider it a "fan" term.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 21:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

What was the Takara reissiue called? [[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 23:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't forget the Sparkler Mini-Bots. That, at least, is official.

er, that was me. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 00:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Folks:

Hm. I couldn't find the term "Minibot" in any of my comic issues, but then I don't have many, and none of them are the 'character' pieces that I (think I) remember the term from. It may be a fan term, but it's a fan term with wide comprehension, so perhaps we should keep using it, and try to find the history of the term, as was done with 'seeker'? I don't think 'fan' terms are a bad thing; after all, the fans are the 'scholars' of this branch of knowledge, and if a fan term is in common use then why not use it? Comprehension is the important thing with language, and even logic or consistency must bow before it, except with the French, but who counts them, really! --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 11:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

: I think we should have the main page at "Mini Vehicles" (sp?), and redirects at "Minicars" and "Minibots", and mention that "Minibots" is a fan term, at least until someone can find any offical mateial that says otherwise. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:07, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

::Fortmax -- Well, I for one tend to respectfully disagree on this. I guess we are looking at this from different angles: enlightening the heathens vs. pandering to the masses. It's true that a fan term (if this is indeed a fan term) doesn't have the 'canonical' sanction of the official one, but I believe that in this case the term "Minibots" has the widest recognition, and will be clear to the most people, which (I believe) is what an encyclopedia such as this is all about. For a similar example, take the term 'combiner'. I believe, though I am not sure, that the only canonical term used was 'special teams' (until recent times, that is) but the fan term is understood by many more people. On the other hand, the question of promoting the proper term is a valid one. Hmm. I need to find time to go to the library and read up on my early G1 comics. The phrase 'the little yellow Minibot' comes to mind, somehow. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 18:12, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
:::Sorry, Autobus, but the others are right. "Minibot" deserves a section in the fandom category, but it's not an official term, and so we shouldn't use it on the Wiki. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:14, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:::"Combiner" was used in an official capacity during ''RiD''. So, even if it was originally a fan term (I would guess so), it is now canonical. "Special team" is a more restrictive term, applying only to Scramble City combiners. Regarding Seeker: that term is now official also, although just barely, I will admit. Prior to its inclusion in a War Within comic, there was a movement within the fandom to switch from Seeker to Skyraider, a term with an official basis (beyond just appearing in one JC Penny's catalog) and a more accurately evocative feel. As others have noted, I absolutely think the term Minibot should be mentioned in the Mini Vehicles article, and there should be a Minibot article to redirect here. We don't want to obscure the term, we just want to give preference to the official one. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll get right on that a few hours ago. ;) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:09, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

In the UK Comic, they were pretty consistently called 'Mini-Autobots'. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 03:48, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the term "Minibot" WAS used officially at least once... in the Marvel UK comics, issue #44, Laserbeak refers to Bumblebee as a Minibot.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f321/venjix/laserbeak_minibot_panel.jpg

== Category:Mini Vehicles ==
''(Originally at Talk:Fastback)''

I know he shares a character model with Outback, but I'm not sure he belongs in the Mini Vehicle category. "Mini Vehicle" is kind of a toy-only concept it—doesn't really mean anything in the comics, so I don't think comic-only characters belong. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:13, 29 October 2009 (EDT)

:Perhaps we should take this to the Mini Vehicle talk page, given this is talk about the definition of 'Mini Vehicle'. My opinion is that whatever shares a mold with the officially designated Minibots (a term, btw, used in fiction in the Marvel comics, so that's one argument against the removal of Wipe-Out from the category at least) can be classified a Minibot, whether they have a toy or not. Much as fiction doesn't do much with the concept, it doesn't completely ignore it either. And also, I'm pretty sure there's no telling whether a Mini Vehicle has to be an Autobot or not - I'm pretty sure faction never was part of their definition. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:19, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
::Yes it should be discussed there. Right now Fastback, [[Wipe-Out]], [[Subsea]], and [[Flattop (Marvel)|Flattop]] are not listed as Mini Vehicles on the Mini Vehicle page. Maybe they should be added. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 02:35, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
::Also [[Sedan (Robocar)]]. He is a Robocar. Whatever a Robocar is, it doesn't appear to be a Mini Vehicle. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 02:56, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
:::I figured Sedan was good to go as Mini Vehicle, seeing as he appears to be a more or less official release of Bumper. Now, unless that is not agreed upon, we only have the fiction-only characters left to discuss: Subsea, Flattop, Fastback and Wipe-Out. As stated before, while fiction doesn't do much with the whole idea of Minibots, it is not entirely ignorant of it either, sometimes naming the group or otherwise intentionally teaming them up. As such, I feel that just because there is no toy, that does not mean fiction-only characters automatically are not Mini Vehicles. Especially in the case of mold-sharers Fastback and Wipe-Out I'd find it off not to declare them Minibots as well, given that "height & vehicle altmode" pretty much are the only defining traits for Minibots that we know of. Moreso, "Autobot", far as I know, is not a Mini Vehicle trait, even if most belong to that category. What with [[Talk:Malignus (G1)|Malignus=Decepticon]] and those characters apparently viewed/stated to be Mini Vehicles, I think the intro paragraph should be altered to reflect that. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:19, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
::::[[Sedan (Robocar)|Sedan]] is a "Robocar." I have no idea what that is. The Takara [[G1 GoBots|GoBots]] use Mini Vehicle toys but are something completely different. Robocars could also be something completely different as far as I know. I really don't know how Marvel UK treats Mini Vehicles (what makes a Mini Vehicle a Mini-Vehicle fictionally?) I haven't read [[Underworld!]], but Flattop and Subsea seem like good candidates since they are teamed with another Mini Vehicle and are all the same height. But unless they are all called Mini Vehicles in the issue, that is circumstantial evidence.
::::As for Wipe-Out, Shockwave asked Ratbat for one Decepticon warrior and Ratbat sent two. So Wipe-Out might be a guy that just comes along with Trypticon, like [[Full-Tilt (G1)|Full-Tilt]]. In which case he might be more of a component transformer. But Wipe-Out seems fully autonomous, so I don't know. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:41, 29 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::I am not familiar with the GoBots' story. Did they keep their original bodies or did they adapt them when they came to the G1 verse? Because in the latter case I'd say there's room to consider them Mini Vehicles too.
:::::Aside from the earlier description, I don't think there's any clear definition for "Mini Vehicle" ever given in-fiction. Members of the toy-group get named 'so' once in a while, but that's about it. Only the name appears a straight answer to what they are.
:::::Even better, all of the Autobots appearing in Underworld! are Mini Vehicles: Tailgate, Outback and Pipes. Since Flattop and Subsea are of the same height and story-circumstance... well, you know my opinion.
:::::In the case of Wipe-Out, it seems to me the guy is Trypticon's personal servant. Where the cityformer goes, he goes (because he has no other use), so if you send Trypticon as "one", you automatically get two (well, until the end of KotH at least). There is no hint he'd be a part of Trypticon like Full-Tilt is.

== "altered them to match the local life forms" ==

That line from the write up of the [[G1 GoBots]] would seem to me to indicate the possibility that the new forms of the characters are Mini Vehicles as well. At least enough so that a mention should be made somewhere on this page. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:33, 10 December 2009 (EST)
:That might mean they disguised themselves as Mini Vehicles, but they are still GoBots—for example: they are still cyborgs. So maybe a "disguised as Mini Vehicles" section? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:44, 10 December 2009 (EST)
::Sounds good to me. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:46, 10 December 2009 (EST)

== UK comic ==

The "Notes" section in [[Underworld!]] sound kinda like "Mini-Autobots" might have been acknowledged in the comic something relevant to fiction and not just the toys. I never read the issue. Are the cadets called "Mini-Autobots" or anything? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:20, 18 October 2010 (EDT)

== Mexican releases ==
Should we list the Mexican variants? Especially seeing as how one has been retconned into a proper character, [[Rest-Q]]. --[[User:Terrortron|Terrortron]] 22:46, 20 December 2010 (EST)

== Variant Cliff & Bee? ==

hey all, been a while since i've been around, but i was just perusing some articles, and noticed that no mention is made of Yellow Cliffjumper or Red Bumblebee on the Mini Vehicle page. It seems kinda like a glaring oversight, so i thought there may be a reason they were left out and should ask before adding them. They are referenced on the individual CJ & BB pages, so it seems rather curious. o_O [[User:Evil-yuusha|Evil-yuusha]] 15:50, 7 April 2012 (EDT)

== 1st release case count ==

What was the case count on the first year minicars? Was it 6 (1 per case of each) or 12 (2 per case) or something else? Could this be why Bumper was bumped? Just an attempt to make a more convenient distribution of figures? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 21:18, 21 February 2019 (EST)

== "M" for Mysterians? ==
With the info revealed in Chris McFeely's new video on some previously unknown aspects of the history of the Transformers brand, Muffy and the Mysterians, that the toys that would later become Brawn, Huffer, Windcharger, and Gears may have been designed not originally by Takara, but by Knickerbocker for their Mysterians line and somehow the designs made it to Takara, and the stylized "M" molded on those 4 of the original 7 Microchange robots may not stand for for "Microchange" as originally thought, but for "Mysterians", should the notes section of this page be updated to reflect that? --[[User:Jeddostotle7|Jeddostotle7]] ([[User talk:Jeddostotle7|talk]]) 01:19, 18 August 2020 (EDT)

== Name/Move Proposal ==
The 1985 US pack-in catalog (the main image on the page) is the only instance of "Mini-Vehicle" not having a hyphen in it. The hyphen is present in the 1985 Hasbro Toy Fair catalog, the 1985 UK pack-in catalog, the pre-1986 and final 1986 Hasbro Toy Fair catalogs, and the 1986 pack-in catalog. By preponderance of evidence, this page needs to be moved, and... something done with the "Mini-Vehicle" redirect that goes to [[Robot Powered Machines]]. Compared to the G1 subgroup, nobody's ever going to look those up. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 17:07, 19 June 2023 (EDT)
:I agree. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:27, 22 August 2023 (EDT)
::Yeah, the lack of a hyphen feels like a very "old wiki" thing that should be corrected. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 23:13, 22 August 2023 (EDT)
:::Good idea. [[User:Hilfam|Hilfam]] ([[User talk:Hilfam|talk]]) 17:08, 11 August 2024 (EDT)

== FFOD part 5 ==

Should the Mini-Vehicle crew led by Warpath and Pipes in FFOD part 5 be mentioned anywhere? It was made entirely up of mini-vehicles. Maybe a tongue-in-cheek 'The original Ark Volcano Base was staffed seemingly entirely by mini-vehicles as of 2005, as they were the only autobots to respond to Trypticon's assault on the Volcano.' in the fiction section. [[User:Kadeo|Kadeo]] ([[User talk:Kadeo|talk]]) 08:20, 27 February 2025 (EST)

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