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New World Order

2020-07-22T23:53:31Z

Kaizo Zhang 15: /* Covers (5) */

{{disambig2|the Dreamwave issue|the IDW issue|New Worlds Order}}

{{Comicstory|
|seriesissue=[[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|''Transformers: Generation 1'']] #1
|prev=Transformers Volume 2 Preview
|next=Brothers' Burden
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|title="New World Order"
|image=G1_Vol.2_Issue1_1.jpg
|caption=Autobots, prepare to atta—WHOA. What is WITH my hand?
|publisher=[[Dreamwave Productions]]
|date=[[April 16]], [[2003]]
|coverdate=April 2003
|writer=[[James McDonough|Brad Mick]]
|penciler=[[Pat Lee]]
|inker=[[Rob Armstrong]]
|colorist=[[Espen Grundetjern]], [[Alan Wang]], [[Rob Ruffolo]]
|letterer=[[Paul Villafuerte]]
|editor=
|continuity=[[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Dreamwave continuity]]
|Chronology=[[Dreamwave timeline|Modern era]]
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'''The Autobots and Decepticons battle in Alaska, but soon find out the war is over—Shockwave has united Cybertron!'''

==Synopsis==
At the shores of [[Alaska]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] tries to recall how he and the [[Autobot]]s arrived in their current predicament—trying to recover an Autobot vessel when they were ambushed by the [[Decepticon]]s. When Prime manages to get the advantage against [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], the vessel opens and from it emerges [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], who brings news that the war on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] is over.

But before Scourge can explain, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arrives and blasts him out of commission, but validates his claims of Cybertron's unification. He explains that while the Autobots and Decepticons were on [[Earth]], he united Cybertron and had come to Earth to take the stranded [[Transformer]]s home as prisoners—but Megatron reacts negatively and the skirmish restarts.

[[File:Shockwavedwwarandpeace.jpg|left|275px|thumb|Shockwave masterminds EVERYTHING.]]
Shockwave releases the [[Triple Changer]]s to subdue the Earthbound Transformers. A pair of missiles of from Shockwave's henchman, [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] takes out Megatron, but before Blitzwing can injure Optimus, [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] arrives and bends Blitzwing's cannon out of shape. Despite Grimlock's arrival, Shockwave's side of the conflict gets the upper-hand thanks to their technological superiority. Optimus orders [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] to use his force fields to cover the Autobots' retreat. With the Autobots gone and Megatron disabled, [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] and the rest of the Decepticons surrender.

Away from the conflict, Optimus and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] agree that Prowl will remain in the area with [[Hound (G1)|Hound]], [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], Trailbreaker, and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] as a reconnaissance team, while Optimus and the other Autobots will return to the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] for repairs and further deliberations on how to handle the recent developments.

The Decepticons are loaded into Shockwave's ship, which takes off to return to Cybertron, leaving behind Blitzwing to meet up with [[Security Team Dion]], who will round up the Autobots. [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] are dispatched to monitor Megatron's body in the loading bay while the rest of the Earth Decepticons are loaded into stasis to undergo re-education, despite Starscream's reservations.

In the Ark, [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] listen to the Autobots' debate about what their next move should be. [[Gears (G1)|Gears]] is willing to give peace a chance to return to Cybertron, while [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] disagrees, refusing to forgive the Decepticons for their past crimes. Grimlock arrives and characteristically suggests that it's time for action.

In Alaska, Prowl's team is hunted by [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], as Prowl radios for help from the Ark, Mirage stops him and introduces [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|the leader]] of Security Team Dion.

In space, Megatron tries to awaken aboard Shockwave's ship, but Starscream opens the bay doors, dropping Megatron out of the ship. Rumble and Frenzy hold on, as Starscream fires one last shot at Megatron, blasting off his helmet.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (2)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (4)
*[[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] (5)
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] (7)
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (8)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] (11)
*[[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] (13)
*[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] (14)
*[[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] (18)
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (20)
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] (21)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (22)
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (23)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (24)
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (25)
*[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (26)
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (30)
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] (31)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (34)

|c2=
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (1)
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (3)
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (6)
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (9)
*[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] (10)
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (12)
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (15)
*[[Octane]] (16)
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (17)
*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (19)
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (27)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (28)
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] (29)
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (32)
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (33)
}}

==Quotes==
"Accept it. I am your superior in every conceivable way."
:—'''Shockwave''' enforces Megatron's resignation as leader

"Tell us, Commander Shockwave, where do we sign up?"
:—'''Starscream''' switches allegiance...surprise, surprise

"Remember, Starscream, that I am completely aware of your treacherous history and lack the patience to tolerate it."
:—'''Shockwave''' makes a conclusion that Megatron never could.

"Is that who I think it is?" 
"It better not be! I can't believe that dino-dummy has got the bearings to show his backstabbing mug around here."
:—'''Ratchet''' and '''Ironhide''' groan at Grimlock's return

==Notes==
[[File:DWG1V2Autobotpromo.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|right|Hey, colorist, we changed the writer. Different story now, please change the background on the cover.]]
[[File:DWG1V2Decepticonpromo.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|right|What do you mean, "half the characters either don't appear in this story or are fighting for different sides"?]]
*The standard "Autobot" and "Decepticon" covers for this issue were originally solicited with different colors (and lacking the portions that feature the Triple Changers). Notable changes, aside from minor coloring details on the robots (such as a stronger "fading" effect for characters in the background, added white "shine" effects, corrected colors for Bumblebee's arms and weird white borders around the characters) affect the background, changing the brown color of the rocky terrain to white, presumably in order to reflect the "arctic" setting of the opening scene of this issue, and completely changing the clouds.
*It's not like the characters depicted on the covers are particularly indicative of the content, but... why is there a [[Powerdasher]] ([[Aragon|the car type]]) on the Autobot cover? That's beyond random, even for a cover that also features [[Overdrive]].
*Also, why does Blaster have mechanical levers for extracting his hands on his forearms? That's an extreme level of [[show-accuracy|toy-accuracy]].

===Continuity notes===
*Gadgets and powers:
**Sideswipe uses his pile-driver arms to knock Octane off-balance.
**Trailbreaker uses his forcefield
*The [[Transformers Volume 2 Preview|last time we saw Optimus Prime]], he had fallen down from a cliff in the desert following what appeared to be some sort of seizure. An expository paragraph inside the front cover of this issue connects that scene to the otherwise confusing beginning of this issue. This paragraph was omitted in the trade paperback collections. ''Whups.''
*The Autobot vessel was last seen on the final pages of the [[Prime Directive|first Dreamwave miniseries.]]
*The reason Scourge was in an Autobot vessel was unexplained until the [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|Generation 1 ongoing comic.]] That he has a Decepticon symbol, despite never being one, never gets an explanation.
*A rare moment of character exploration for Bluestreak brings up the destruction of his home city.
*In his argument with Bluestreak, Gears brings up mankind's fear and hatred of the Autobots, a major theme of the previous miniseries.
*It is revealed that Wheeljack survived death by blowing his energy reserves to stop the metal virus in the [[Prime Directive|previous miniseries]], although Jazz does make mention of it being a very near thing.
*Ironhide's enmity toward Grimlock is due to Grimlock's time serving with the Decepticons in the [[Prime Directive|previous miniseries.]]

===Transformers references===
*[[Security Team Dion]] derives its name from [[Dion (G1)|Dion]], a friend of Orion Pax who some crazy people [[Personal canon|thought]] might be the same person as [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], but come on that's just crazy talk that only a fool would buy into.
*No less than three references to the [[The Transformers: The Movie|animated movie]] occur in the last pages, including two directly cribbed lines (an "I still function" from Megs, and a "how it pains me" from Starscream).

===Other trivia===
*The "[[Wavelengths]]" page features an article from the desk of [[Pat Lee]], wherein he mentions that he penciled one page in bed with a fever. The photo shows him holding a {{w|Wobbuffet}}.

===Errors===
*In the [[Prime Directive|previous miniseries]], Grimlock ripped off the Autobot [[insignia]] on his chest when he defected to the Decepticons. At the end of the miniseries, Grimlock, still with a gaping hole in his chest, abandoned the Decepticons again but didn't accept Optimus Prime's offer to join the Autobots again either, instead deciding to wander off on his own. Yet when he comes to aid the Autobots in this issue, he suddenly sports a Decepticon insignia on his chest.
* Shockwave introduces himself by name, which is kind of unnecessary since everyone present should already know who he is.
{{--}}

===Covers (5)===
*A three-page wide foldout Autobot cover, featuring the Autobots facing off against Blitzwing, Octane, and Astrotrain. Art by [[Pat Lee]].
*A three-page wide foldout Decepticon cover, featuring the Decepticons facing off against Broadside and Sandstorm. The Decepticon cover could connect to the Autobot cover to form an image six pages wide. Art by Pat Lee.
*An incentive Shockwave cover that dealers could order for every 25 regular issues ordered. The Shockwave cover could fit between the Autobot and Decepticon covers.
*A holofoil cover featuring Megatron, released a week after the regular covers. Art by Pat Lee.
*A limited-to-7000 [[Dynamic Forces]] cover by [[Bill Sienkiewicz]], released a month after the issue first hit stands.

<gallery>
File:G1 Vol.2 Issue1 1 full.jpg|Autobot cover
File:G1 Vol.2 Issue1 2 full.jpg|Decepticon cover
File:G1 Vol.2 Issue1 Foil full.jpg|Foil cover
File:G1 Vol.2 Issue1 DF.jpg|Dynamic Forces cover
</gallery>

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*[[Dreamwave Armada issue 10|''Transformers: Armada'' #10]] (back interior cover)
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*''Sandscape'' #4 (back interior cover)
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===Reprints===
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[[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 issues]]

The War Within issue 1

2020-07-17T06:30:32Z

Kaizo Zhang 15: /* Quotes */

{{comicstory|seriesissue=''[[Transformers: The War Within]]'' #1
|next=The War Within issue 2
|image=DW TWW 1.jpg
|caption="I'm even more of a wimp than Orion Pax!"
|publisher=[[Dreamwave Productions]]
|date=[[October 9]], [[2002]]
|coverdate=October 2002
|story=[[Simon Furman]]
|pencils=[[Don Figueroa]]
|inks=[[Elaine To]] & Don Figueroa
|colors=[[Rob Ruffolo]]
|graphic design=[[Kevin Lee]]
|letters=[[Dreamer Design]]
|editorinchief=[[Roger Lee]]
|assistant editor=[[Matt Moylan]]
|chronology=[[Dreamwave timeline|Early war]]
|continuity=[[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Dreamwave continuity]]
}}

'''Following the death of Sentinel Prime, the Council of Ancients chooses an unlikely successor.'''

==Synopsis==
The [[Autobot]] [[Prime (rank)|leader]], [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] is killed in battle. A while later, in the [[Vaults]] of the [[High Council Pavilions]] in [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] relates scuttlebutt about how the old Prime died to indifferent archivist Optronix, who just wants to be left to his work. Bluestreak thinks Optronix has a cushy position.

Over in [[Polities of Cybertron|Orbital Torus State]] [[Altihex]], [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s team of Autobots is in trouble. [[Overhaul (G1)|Overhaul]] dies with a hole blasted through him, the latest victim of the Autobot/Decepticon war. As Grimlock orders his men to hold their position, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] reports that the [[Skysled]] evac unit is having trouble—a group of [[Neutral]]s are refusing to evacuate. [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] radios from the transport that [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] are incoming, but Grimlock doesn't have the resources to provide assistance, and the two [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] destroy the building full of Neutrals. [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] drags Bumblebee onto the ship, telling him Altihex is lost. As Grimlock prepares to withdraw, he complains that they need a leader with some balls.

Meanwhile, in the [[Chamber of the Ancients]], the [[Council of Ancients]] is telling Optronix that they've selected him to succeed Sentinel Prime. Though he protests to Councillor [[Gravitas]] that a mistake has been made, the council is firm that the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] has made its choice and attempt to convince him it's a good idea.

[[Image:Optronix optimus.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]
[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] arrive in [[Praxus]] and wait in what was once the [[Helix Gardens]], both saddened at the devastation the Decepticons have wrought on the area. Grimlock soon arrives with his squad and a message—if the new Prime is unsuitable, they'll depose him and install themselves as leaders.

In the [[Oracle Tank]], in Iacon's [[Stellar Galleries]], Optronix asks the Keeper for answers, believing that they should leave [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] for the [[Decepticon]]s. A short time later, he's back in the Chamber of the Ancients for the inauguration ceremony. Only a true Prime can contain the Matrix, and Optronix does, being augmented by the Matrix's power into [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. No sooner is this done than a Decepticon assassination squad moves to strike. [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] tries to block them and has his right arm sliced off by [[Umbra]]. While [[Backbite (G1)|Backbite]] struggles with Bumblebee and Grimlock, Umbra transforms to gun mode. Before [[Darklight]] can fire Umbra, he's slammed to the ground by Optimus. Kup and [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] take out Backbite, but Grimlock holds the other Autobots back, as he wants to see how Optimus handles the remaining two Decepticons.

Optimus manages to twist Umbra's attack so that his blade fatally pierces Darklight. As Prime tries to question Umbra, the assassin merely says that the Autobots are all doomed, and then self-terminates. Though the other Autobots celebrate Prime's easy victory, their elation quickly turns to dismay, as their new leader announces that he doesn't feel that Cybertron is worth fighting for and orders the Autobots to evacuate the planet.

However, Megatron has other ideas...

==Featured characters==
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*[[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix/Optimus Prime]] (2)
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] (3)
*[[Overhaul (G1)|Overhaul]] (4)
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (5)
*[[Kup (G1)|Kup]] (6)
*[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] (7)
*[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (8)
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (9)
*[[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] (12)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] (13)
{{!}}style="background:transparent;border:0px" valign="top"{{!}}
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (14)
*[[Gravitas]] (17)
*[[Kudon]] (18)
*[[Vraz]] (19)
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (20)
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (21)
*[[Guardian robot|Guardian robots]] (22)
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] (29)
{{!}}}
|c2=
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (10)
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (11)
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] (15)
*[[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] (16)
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (23)
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (24)
*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (25)
*[[Darklight]] (26)
*[[Umbra]] (27)
*[[Backbite (G1)|Backbite]] (28)
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (30)
}}

==Quotes==
"They say he took his sweet time, killed Prime diode at a time. They say—" 
"They say a lot, don't 'they'."
:—'''Bluestreak''' and '''Optronix'''

"If Council choose wrong, if new Prime falter...then we seize his title, his power...by show of ''force''!"
:—'''Grimlock''' plans ahead

"If it's me you want..." 
"It's your ''head'', actually. On a spike. Megatron has decreed it."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Darklight'''

'''Bumblebee''': "Awesome!" 
'''Tracks''': "If I ''ever'' doubted—" 
'''Jazz''': "You ''are'' the man!"
:—The '''Autobots''' react to the fighting skills of their new Prime

==Notes==
*The biggest contribution ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' made to ''Transformers'' is that most of the characters were given "new" body designs for Cybertronian alt-modes, due to the fact that it takes place long before they arrived on Earth. While this has become the norm (and a lot of those bodies may now try to look pretty Earth-y), ''The War Within'' was the first time it had ever been done and got the [[fandom]] cheering.
*This is both the first of [[Dreamwave Productions]]' tales about the early days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] and also the first Dreamwave Productions comic Simon Furman wrote.
*One of the buildings in the first establishing two-page panel of Iacon has "Transformers" written in Japanese katakana lettering on the side of it (specifically the main part of the ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]'' logo).
*In the same panel, the [[alternate mode]] of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] makes a cameo.
*[[Diagnostic Drone]]s can be seen in the archives.
*The term [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]] is used in official [[canon]] for the first time.

===Errors===
*Thundercracker has Skywarp's colors as he shatters the building windows (he addresses Skywarp by name), and Skywarp has Thundercracker's colors a panel later. Both errors were fixed for the trade paperback collection.

===Covers (3)===
*'''Regular Cover:''' Wraparound foldout of the story's major characters; art by [[Don Figueroa]], colors by [[Alan Wang]]
*'''Incentive Cover:''' Lenticular image of Optimus Prime transforming, art by Don Figueroa.
*'''New Dimension Comics exclusive:''' Cover with a profile of War Within Optimus by [[Pat Lee]]. 450 copies had the profile in gold foil, 99 in "platinium foil". These issues also came with a postcard showing the lenticular image.

<gallery>
File:DW TWW 1.jpg|Transformers version of ''The Phantom Menace'', but actually a good story and no Jar-Jar.
File:DW TWW 1 hologram.jpg|Glitchy picture, but it is the lenticular cover.
File:warwithin_goldfoil.jpg|Hard to make out, but Optimus is on there.
</gallery>

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===Reprints===
In addition to [[Transformers: The War Within#Collections|collections of the full series]].
* '''''[[The Transformers: The Best of Don Figueroa]]''''' HC ([[August 1]], [[2007]]) ISBN 1600100813 / ISBN 978-1600100819
* '''''[[The Transformers: Best of Optimus Prime]]''''' TPB ([[June 2]], [[2010]]) ISBN 1600106668 / ISBN 978-1600106668
<gallery>
File:BestofDon.jpg|'''''Best of Don Figueroa'''''; art by [[Don Figueroa]] and [[Alan Wang]]
File:BestofOptimus.jpg|'''''Best of Optimus Prime'''''; art by [[Livio Ramondelli]]
</gallery>

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[[Category:War Within issues]]

Talk:Bonecrusher (Armada)

2020-07-07T22:41:33Z

Kaizo Zhang 15: /* Shall we mention that his actual toy is a little bit different from the stock image? */

== Misassembly? ==

So I noticed on my Bonecrusher figure has a left crotch piece on his right side making the crotch look asymmetrical. Was this a common thing on Bonecrusher figures and its redecos? --[[User:Wildstreak|Wildstreak]] ([[User talk:Wildstreak|talk]]) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (EDT)

Well, I have [[Scattor (Armada)#Toys|Scattor]], and his crotch is fine. (That is the weirdest sentence I have ever typed.)--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 14:11, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
:Well I have the Thunderblast figure and his crotch is fine. I also noticed that the ''Bomb Ultimate Edition'' picture here is as asymmetrical in the same way mine is. Maybe it is just Bonecrusher that has this issue? --[[User:Wildstreak|Wildstreak]] ([[User talk:Wildstreak|talk]]) 16:05, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
::It looks like the [[:File:Bonecrusher armada toy.jpg]] might be displaying this same issue? Comparing it to [[:File:Arm-toy BonecrusherUltimate.jpg]], the Ultimate one has divots above both legs instead of just the right leg. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:04, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
:::According to all other pictures of this toy sculpt I could find, it's the bulge in the center that's meant to be symmetrical, not the divots. Additionally, the rear sports a single raised rectangle on the right "buttock"... which is what the Bomb Ultimate Edition in our current photo has in place of the other half of the bulge, so I can only conclude that it's got two of the same pelvis half joined to itself and therefore is the misassembly. [[User:Bag of Magic Food|Bag of Magic Food]] ([[User talk:Bag of Magic Food|talk]]) 02:37, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

== Shall we mention that his actual toy is a little bit different from the stock image? ==

As many people may have already noticed, the stock image's (not the art) red missile as well as the entire launcher arm is different from his actual toy.

In the stock image, the missile head has a cross and is flatter than the actual toy, and the launcher has some red paint on it. (Same applies to [[Scattor (Armada)#Toys|Scattor]], his redeco.) You can find those stock images on the back of Land Military Team's box and in the included comic book (First wave minicons only, probably).
--[[User:Kaizo_Zhang_15|Kaizo_Zhang_15]] ([[User talk:Kaizo_Zhang_15|talk]]) 17:56, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Bonecrusher (Armada)

2020-07-07T22:01:07Z

Kaizo Zhang 15: /* Shall we mention that his actual toy is a little bit different from the stock image? */

== Misassembly? ==

So I noticed on my Bonecrusher figure has a left crotch piece on his right side making the crotch look asymmetrical. Was this a common thing on Bonecrusher figures and its redecos? --[[User:Wildstreak|Wildstreak]] ([[User talk:Wildstreak|talk]]) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (EDT)

Well, I have [[Scattor (Armada)#Toys|Scattor]], and his crotch is fine. (That is the weirdest sentence I have ever typed.)--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 14:11, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
:Well I have the Thunderblast figure and his crotch is fine. I also noticed that the ''Bomb Ultimate Edition'' picture here is as asymmetrical in the same way mine is. Maybe it is just Bonecrusher that has this issue? --[[User:Wildstreak|Wildstreak]] ([[User talk:Wildstreak|talk]]) 16:05, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
::It looks like the [[:File:Bonecrusher armada toy.jpg]] might be displaying this same issue? Comparing it to [[:File:Arm-toy BonecrusherUltimate.jpg]], the Ultimate one has divots above both legs instead of just the right leg. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:04, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
:::According to all other pictures of this toy sculpt I could find, it's the bulge in the center that's meant to be symmetrical, not the divots. Additionally, the rear sports a single raised rectangle on the right "buttock"... which is what the Bomb Ultimate Edition in our current photo has in place of the other half of the bulge, so I can only conclude that it's got two of the same pelvis half joined to itself and therefore is the misassembly. [[User:Bag of Magic Food|Bag of Magic Food]] ([[User talk:Bag of Magic Food|talk]]) 02:37, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

== Shall we mention that his actual toy is a little bit different from the stock image? ==

As many people may have already noticed, his red missile as well as the entire launcher arm is different from his actual toy to the stock image.

In the stock image, the missile head has a cross and is flatter than the actual toy, and the launcher has some red paint on it. (Same applies to [[Scattor (Armada)#Toys|Scattor]], his redeco.)
--[[User:Kaizo_Zhang_15|Kaizo_Zhang_15]] ([[User talk:Kaizo_Zhang_15|talk]]) 17:56, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Bonecrusher (Armada)

2020-07-07T21:59:48Z

Kaizo Zhang 15: /* Shall we mention that his actual toy is a little bit different from the stock image? */

== Misassembly? ==

So I noticed on my Bonecrusher figure has a left crotch piece on his right side making the crotch look asymmetrical. Was this a common thing on Bonecrusher figures and its redecos? --[[User:Wildstreak|Wildstreak]] ([[User talk:Wildstreak|talk]]) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (EDT)

Well, I have [[Scattor (Armada)#Toys|Scattor]], and his crotch is fine. (That is the weirdest sentence I have ever typed.)--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 14:11, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
:Well I have the Thunderblast figure and his crotch is fine. I also noticed that the ''Bomb Ultimate Edition'' picture here is as asymmetrical in the same way mine is. Maybe it is just Bonecrusher that has this issue? --[[User:Wildstreak|Wildstreak]] ([[User talk:Wildstreak|talk]]) 16:05, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
::It looks like the [[:File:Bonecrusher armada toy.jpg]] might be displaying this same issue? Comparing it to [[:File:Arm-toy BonecrusherUltimate.jpg]], the Ultimate one has divots above both legs instead of just the right leg. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:04, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
:::According to all other pictures of this toy sculpt I could find, it's the bulge in the center that's meant to be symmetrical, not the divots. Additionally, the rear sports a single raised rectangle on the right "buttock"... which is what the Bomb Ultimate Edition in our current photo has in place of the other half of the bulge, so I can only conclude that it's got two of the same pelvis half joined to itself and therefore is the misassembly. [[User:Bag of Magic Food|Bag of Magic Food]] ([[User talk:Bag of Magic Food|talk]]) 02:37, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

== Shall we mention that his actual toy is a little bit different from the stock image? ==

As many people may have already noticed, his red missile as well as the entire launcher arm is different from his actual toy to the stock image.

In the stock image, the missile head has a cross and is flatter than the actual toy, and the launcher has some red paint on it. (Same applies on [[Scattor (Armada)#Toys|Scattor]], his redeco.)
--[[User:Kaizo_Zhang_15|Kaizo_Zhang_15]] ([[User talk:Kaizo_Zhang_15|talk]]) 17:56, 7 July 2020 (EDT)

Talk:Bonecrusher (Armada)

2020-07-07T21:59:32Z

Kaizo Zhang 15: /* Misassembly? */

== Misassembly? ==

So I noticed on my Bonecrusher figure has a left crotch piece on his right side making the crotch look asymmetrical. Was this a common thing on Bonecrusher figures and its redecos? --[[User:Wildstreak|Wildstreak]] ([[User talk:Wildstreak|talk]]) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (EDT)

Well, I have [[Scattor (Armada)#Toys|Scattor]], and his crotch is fine. (That is the weirdest sentence I have ever typed.)--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 14:11, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
:Well I have the Thunderblast figure and his crotch is fine. I also noticed that the ''Bomb Ultimate Edition'' picture here is as asymmetrical in the same way mine is. Maybe it is just Bonecrusher that has this issue? --[[User:Wildstreak|Wildstreak]] ([[User talk:Wildstreak|talk]]) 16:05, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
::It looks like the [[:File:Bonecrusher armada toy.jpg]] might be displaying this same issue? Comparing it to [[:File:Arm-toy BonecrusherUltimate.jpg]], the Ultimate one has divots above both legs instead of just the right leg. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 23:04, 29 March 2020 (EDT)
:::According to all other pictures of this toy sculpt I could find, it's the bulge in the center that's meant to be symmetrical, not the divots. Additionally, the rear sports a single raised rectangle on the right "buttock"... which is what the Bomb Ultimate Edition in our current photo has in place of the other half of the bulge, so I can only conclude that it's got two of the same pelvis half joined to itself and therefore is the misassembly. [[User:Bag of Magic Food|Bag of Magic Food]] ([[User talk:Bag of Magic Food|talk]]) 02:37, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

== Shall we mention that his actual toy is a little bit different from the stock image? ==

As many people may have already noticed, his red missile as well as the entire launcher arm is different from his actual toy to the stock image.

In the stock image, the missile head has a cross and is flatter than the actual toy, and the launcher has some red paint on it. (Same applies on S[[Scattor (Armada)#Toys|Scattor]], his redeco.)
--[[User:Kaizo_Zhang_15|Kaizo_Zhang_15]] ([[User talk:Kaizo_Zhang_15|talk]]) 17:56, 7 July 2020 (EDT)