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MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2013 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2013-05-24T18:24:49Z

Karhukjnsi: editing my entry

ÒThis is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' vote for a specific version of '''Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, Dinobot, Ironhide, Ratchet, Soundwave, Waspinator, Grimlock, Jazz, Shockwave or Wheeljack.''' They've already been inducted!
#However, '''you CAN vote''' for '''''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] or [[Optimus Primal]]'''! Hasbro considers them separate!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe, Terrorsaur (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends at 4pm on '''[[May 31]]st, 2012'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

==Poll entries==


*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Chromedome, Fortress Maximus, Omega Supreme, Rewind --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:35, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Barricade, Devastator, Ravage, Sideways, Ultra Magnus -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:47, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Galvatron, Megatron (BW), Overlord, Sky-Byte, Unicron [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 12:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Ratbat, Ravage, Rhinox, Wreck-Gar [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 12:56, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blurr, BW Megatron, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Whirl [[User:Fireshot|Fireshot]] 12:59, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bruticus, Devastator, Primus, Rattrap, Unicron [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 13:17, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hot Shot, Menasor, Springer, Tarantulas, Tracks [[User:Phantom_Dusclops'92|Phantom Dusclops'92]] 13:29, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Botanica, Fortress Maximus, Swindle, Swoop, Ultra Magnus - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee (Prime)]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron (Beast Wars)]], [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage (Beast Wars)]], [[Rattrap]], [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle (Animated/G1)]] --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hound, Ratbat, Sideswipe, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 13:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Impactor, Scrounge, Straxus, Ultra Magnus, Venom --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime --[[User:Anguirus|Anguirus]] 14:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Tarantulas -- [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 14:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)



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MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2013 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2013-05-24T18:23:14Z

Karhukjnsi: /* Poll entries */

ÒThis is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' vote for a specific version of '''Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, Dinobot, Ironhide, Ratchet, Soundwave, Waspinator, Grimlock, Jazz, Shockwave or Wheeljack.''' They've already been inducted!
#However, '''you CAN vote''' for '''''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] or [[Optimus Primal]]'''! Hasbro considers them separate!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe, Terrorsaur (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends at 4pm on '''[[May 31]]st, 2012'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

==Poll entries==


*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Chromedome, Fortress Maximus, Omega Supreme, Rewind --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:35, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Barricade, Devastator, Ravage, Sideways, Ultra Magnus -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:47, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Galvatron, Megatron (BW), Overlord, Sky-Byte, Unicron [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 12:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Ratbat, Ravage, Rhinox, Wreck-Gar [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 12:56, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blurr, BW Megatron, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Whirl [[User:Fireshot|Fireshot]] 12:59, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bruticus, Devastator, Primus, Rattrap, Unicron [[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 13:17, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hot Shot, Menasor, Springer, Tarantulas, Tracks [[User:Phantom_Dusclops'92|Phantom Dusclops'92]] 13:29, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Botanica, Fortress Maximus, Swindle, Swoop, Ultra Magnus - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee (Prime)]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron (Beast Wars)]], [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage (Beast Wars)]], [[Rattrap]], [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle (Animated/G1)]] --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hound, Ratbat, Sideswipe, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 13:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Impactor, Scrounge, Straxus, Ultra Magnus, Venom --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime --[[User:Anguirus|Anguirus]] 14:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Rattrap, Tarantulas -- [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 14:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)



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Omni Saber

2012-10-07T20:48:11Z

Karhukjnsi: Description from page 341 of Exiles.

The '''Omni Saber''' is yet another sword that [[Nexus Prime]] likes to carry around. It is described as being "black as space" and reflects no light. ''Dark''...

==Fiction==
===''Exiles''===

{{stub}}

[[Category:Artifacts of the Primes]]
[[Category:Blades]]
[[category:Prime weapons]]

Cyber Caliber

2012-10-07T20:30:42Z

Karhukjnsi: Added information from page 353 of Exiles.

The '''Cyber Caliber''' is one of [[Artifacts of the Primes|the relics]] of [[Thirteen]]. It is a large, powerful, and exceedingly sharp sword, and it is powerful enough that Nexus Prime was willing to sacrifice himself as to ensure its safety.

==Fiction==
===''Exiles''===
The Cyber Caliber was created by [[Solus Prime]]. After the defeat of [[Liege Maximo]], [[Nexus Prime]] took custody of the relic and decided it must be hidden away till it could not be done without. He separated himself into five beings, each carrying and guarding a fragment of the Cyber Caliber. Much later, a newly reformed Nexus Prime granted it to [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]], who used it to fight [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] to a standstill on the planet [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]]. After the [[Requiem Blaster]] was fired from the ''[[Trypticon (Prime)|Nemesis]]'', the Cyber Caliber had disappeared, blown away by the explosion.{{Storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

==Notes==
*[[Vector Prime]]'s sword, known as "[[Rhisling]]" in his bio in the [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 5|Club magazine]], was called "Cyber Caliber" in the instructions for his toy.
* Before anyone gets technical on us, yes, we know it's supposed to be spelled "Calib'''u'''r" after Excalibur, as "caliber" is used for the diameter of a gun barrel. But that's the spelling Hasbro uses, so there's nothing we can do about it.

[[Category:Artifacts of the Primes]]
[[Category:Prime weapons]]

Chaos Edge

2012-10-07T20:21:25Z

Karhukjnsi: The sword did not explicitly appear from within any part of Nexus Prime's body, and I added specific wording from the book. (Pages 357 and 358 respectively).

The '''Chaos Edge''' is one of the many swords carried by [[Nexus Prime]].

==Fiction==
===''Exiles''===

Nexus Prime held this sword (appearing from nowhere) to threaten the rogue pirate captain [[Thundertron]], but refrained from actually using it, as he sensed that the pirate captain would "have a role to play in the question of the [[AllSpark]]". {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

[[Category:Artifacts of the Primes]]
[[Category:Blades]]
[[Category:Prime weapons]]

Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)

2012-08-22T12:36:50Z

Karhukjnsi: Got VA names right out of the Credits.

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'''''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''''' is a direct sequel to the 2010 game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)| War for Cybertron]]'' that was released on [[August 21]], [[2012]]. Published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]] and developed by [[High Moon Studios]], the game is a continuation of the events of ''War for Cybertron'', It explores the [[Autobot]]s' attempts to escape from a rapidly deteriorating [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] aboard the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'', as well as the gradual downfall and collapse of the remnants of Cybertronian society. A side story also focuses on the creation of the [[Dinobot (FOC)| Dinobots]].

==Featured characters==
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{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus_Prime_(Prime)|Optimus Prime]] <ref>[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/10/06/november-cover-revealed-transformers-fall-of-cybertron.aspx November Cover Revealed]</ref> ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]] ([[Troy Baker]])
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] ([[Keith Szarabajka]])
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] ([[Nolan North]])
*[[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] ([[Troy Baker]])
*[[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] ([[Gregg Berger]])
*[[Hound (Prime)|Hound]] <ref>[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/26/play-transformers-fall-of-cybertron-multiplayer-on-july-31 Transformers: Fall of Cybertron - G1 Optimus Vignette]</ref>
*[[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]] (Mark Allan Stewart)<ref>[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/21/transformers-resurrecting-
the-dinobots.aspx Resurrecting the Dinobots.]</ref>
*[[Slug]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Sludge (FOC)|Sludge]]
*[[Snarl (FOC)|Snarl]]
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]]
*[[Warpath (WFC)|Warpath]] ([[Jamieson Price]])
*[[Perceptor (Prime)|Perceptor]] (Jim Ward)
*[[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Ultra Magnus (Prime)|Ultra Magnus]] <ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/attachments/transformers-video-game-discussion/27314578d1345329191-full-game-being-played-live-right-now-um.jpg]</ref>
*[[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Metroplex (FOC)|Metroplex]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]]) <ref>November 2011 GameInformer</ref>
|c2=
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]])
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] ([[Sam Riegel]])
*[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]])
*[[Onslaught (WFC)|Onslaught]] ([[Travis Willingham]])
*[[Vortex (FOC)|Vortex]] (Dave Boat)
*[[Swindle (FOC)|Swindle]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Blast Off (FOC)|Blast Off]] ([[Keith Silverstein]])<ref name="ArtofApocalypse">[http://tformers.com/transformers-fall-of-cybertron-exclusive/16903/news.html Transformers: Fall of Cybertron Exclusive Art of the Apocalypse Preview], December 2011</ref>
*[[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]] ([[Nolan North]])<ref name="ArtofApocalypse"/>
*[[Bruticus (Prime)|Bruticus]] ([[Nolan North]])
*[[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]]
*[[Sharpshot]] ([[Steve Blum]])
*[[Kickback (FOC)|Kickback]] ([[Troy Baker]])
*[[Hardshell]]
*[[Rumble (Prime)|Rumble]] ([[Keith Silverstein]])<ref>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ2oWKGOcxQ&list=FLcq7kqQpk6QT-sn9f9IKKtg&index=2&feature=plpp_video</ref>
*[[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]]
*[[Leaper]]
*[[Guardian (FOC)|Guardian]]
*[[Wall Crawler]]<ref>[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/20/clever-devils-the-enemies-and-ai-of-fall-of-cybertron.aspx The AI of War for Cybertron]]</ref>
*[[Dragstrip]]
*Quake
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Gameplay==
In an extensive interview with London's ''The Metro'', [[Matt Tieger]] spoke at length about the gameplay improvements ''Fall of Cybertron'' would feature. Tieger acknowledged ''War of Cybertron''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s story was undermined by designing the game levels first, and then finding ways to build the story around it. The story in Fall of Cybertron will also be given depth by Teletraan 1 terminals throughout the game, designed to give the player more information on the backstory of characters, events, etc. This time, the story's first act focuses on the Autobots, the second on the Decepticons and then returns to the Autobots, as opposed to having essentially two games about each faction that did not offer a different experience. Tieger promised the locations would offer the player more freedom, a sense of breathing space between gunfire gameplay segments, and the choice of whether to pass obstacles in robot or alternate mode (rather than forcing them to race to the next part of the map). Unique weaponry befitting each character's original [[tech spec]]s were also promised, as well as more unique locations, with artists rendering different types of "rusted, pitted, steel, nickel, chrome" metal environments.<ref>[http://www.metro.co.uk/tech/games/884575-transformers-fall-of-cybertron-exclusive-interview-planetary-reboot Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron exclusive interview - planetary reboot]</ref>

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official Website]
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/10/06/november-cover-revealed-transformers-fall-of-cybertron.aspx November cover revealed: Fall of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/07/transformers-high-moon-studios-tour.aspx Transformers: High Moon Studio tour] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/10/fall-of-cybertron-the-new-optimus-prime.aspx Fall of Cybertron: The New Optimus Prime] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/games/transformers_fall_of_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2011/10/14/grimlock-rises-in-transformers-fall-of-cybertron-teaser-trailer.aspx Grimlock Rises In Transformers: Fall of Cybertron Teaser Trailer] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/12/behind-the-crosshairs-the-weapons-of-transformers.aspx Behind the Crosshairs: The Weapons of Transformers] @ GameInformer
*[http://youtu.be/Tn4ECyCExeg Fall of Cybertron Teaser 01] @ YouTube
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/13/the-illustrated-tour-of-cybertron.aspx The Illustrated Tour of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/17/directing-transformers-fall-of-cybertron.aspx The Story And Direction Of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/19/animating-the-transformers.aspx Animating The Transformers] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/20/clever-devils-the-enemies-and-ai-of-fall-of-cybertron.aspx The Enemies & AI Of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/21/transformers-resurrecting-the-dinobots.aspx Transformers: Resurrecting The Dinobots] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/24/fall-of-cybertron-deep-character-dive-jazz.aspx Fall Of Cybertron Deep Character Dive: Jazz] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/26/the-transformers-timeline.aspx The Transformers Timeline] @ Game Informer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/26/true-to-character-transformer-fall-of-cybertron.aspx True To Form: Safeguarding The Transformers License] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/28/creating-the-sounds-of-the-transformers.aspx Creating The Soundscape Of Transformers] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/31/larger-than-life-designing-transformer-s-set-piece-moments.aspx Larger Than Life: Designing Fall of Cybertron's Set Piece Moments] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/11/02/transformers-fall-of-cybertron-gameplay-roundtable.aspx Transformers: Fall of Cybertron Gameplay Roundtable] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.gameinformer.com/b/podcasts/archive/2011/11/03/tfse.aspx Special Edition Podcast: Transformers: Fall of Cybertron] @ GameInformer
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVsINYfFG5Q Fall of Cybertron Cinematic Teaser Trailer] @ YouTube
*[http://www.spike.com/events/video-game-awards-2011/world-premiere-trailers/ul8dqy Fall of Cybertron Cinematic Trailer] @ Spike TV ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3E358n7pcI Mirrored] @ YouTube)
*[http://www.gamespot.com/transformers-fall-of-cybertron/videos/transformers-fall-of-cybertron-official-trailer-6368583/ Fall of cybertron Official Gameplay Trailer] @ Gamespot

==Footnotes==

{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Aligned video games]]
[[Category:Fall of Cybertron]]

Triangulation

2012-05-13T07:03:10Z

Karhukjnsi: Something interesting about Starscream unearthing the Apex Armor.

{{episode|
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|prev=Tunnel Vision
|next=Triage
|image=
|caption=
|title="Triangulation"
|airdate=[[May 12]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[David McDermott]]
|directed by=[[Todd Waterman]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''Optimus Prime hunts for relics in Antarctica and finds himself caught between shifting alliances.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] notes that the second relic is in [[Antarctica]], and [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] volunteers to head there. In the ''[[Harbinger]]'', [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] is about to operate on himself to insert his new [[transformation cog|T-cog]] when the ship's computer picks up the fact that the [[Decepticon]]s are dispatching teams to four locations. At the [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Autobot base]], [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] departs through the [[GroundBridge]]. [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] announces he's heading for the Antarctic, and announces that [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] will need backup on his mission—[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]].

Starscream uses a GroundBridge remote control to head to the Antarctic on a hoversled. He's quickly spotted by Dreadwing and some [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] who knock him off his sled. Starscream at first mistakes Dreadwing for Skyquake, and soon has some cuffs slapped on him. The group trudges through the snow to where the relic is located, to find it has already been dug out of the ice and is gone. The Vehicons start searching and find vehicle tracks. They're approached by Optimus, who demands the return of the relic, and the standoff quickly turns into a firefight. After Prime takes out two of the Vehicons and scores a hit on Dreadwing, the Decepticon starts breaking out heavier weapons, and proves to be formidable with a sword. They take a dive off a cliff, following which Optimus brings the ice crashing down, burying Dreadwing. With Starscream's help, Optimus takes care of the remaining two Vehicons, and demands Starscream lead him to the relic.

Optimus and Starscream take a long walk through the ice and snow until they finally reach a human base. Optimus radios home and gets [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]] to evacuate the human base so he can safely retrieve the relic. Meanwhile, Dreadwing breaks free of the ice and heads out to find Prime. With the base clear, Optimus and Starscream venture inside to find the relic still frozen in a chunk of ice. They're interrupted by Dreadwing. While Optimus and Dreadwing fight, Starscream sets about liberating the relic, which turns out to be the [[Apex Armor (Prime)|Apex Armor]]. Outside, Dreadwing has Optimus on the ropes and is about to strike when Starscream, now wearing the armor, crashes out of the building.

Both Dreadwing and Optimus attack the rogue Decepticon, but he swats them aside, repeatedly. Optimus suggests to Dreadwing that they will need to cooperate to defeat Starscream. While Dreadwing flies around, Optimus slaps a bomb onto Starscream, but the Apex Armor proves invulnerable even to that. Optimus realizes that Starscream still has a vulnerability—his lack of flight. While Optimus keeps Starscream's attention once more, Dreadwing plants explosives on the ground, and just as Starscream works out that the pair are up to something, the bombs detonate. Starscream disappears into a hole blasted in the ice. With no relic left to claim, Dreadwing and Optimus go their separate ways, though Dreadwing swears to terminate Optimus next time.

At the bottom of the ocean below, Starscream walks along, still protected by the Apex Armor.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (5)
* [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (6)
* [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (8)

|c2=
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (1)
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (2)
*[[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] (3)
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (4)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (10)

|c3=
* [[Raf Esquivel]] (7)
* [[William Fowler]] (9)
|}}

==Quotes==

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===

===Continuity errors===

===Continuity notes===
* This episode happens concurrently with the previous episode and, presumably, with the following two.
* Starscream refers to [[Orion Pax, Part 2 | helping Orion Pax regain his memory and giving]] [[Crossfire | information]] to the Autobots.
* Starscream mistakes Dreadwing for [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]], whom he saw die in "[[Masters & Students]]", then attempted to revive in "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]".
* Starscream enjoyed [[Darkness Rising, Part 1|killing Cliffjumper]] and claims he will reunite Dreadwing with his "beloved twin".
* Dreadwing is still pissed at [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Prime]] for Skyquake's demise.
* Optimus refers to how he offered Skyquake a chance of redemption, as well as expressing remorse for the Decepticon's demise from "Masters & Students".

===Transformers references===
* The Apex Armor is a reference to the [[Apex Armor (G1)|item of the same name]] from Generation 1, first introduced with the ''[[Commemorative Series]]'' reissue of the [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#ApexArmorPrime|Powermaster Optimus Prime]] toy and later appearing in the [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] comics.

===Real-world references===
* People actually do put flags around archaeological sites in desolate wastelands, in order to find them again.

===Trivia===
* This is the first episode in which [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] does not make an appearance.
* Starscream's priorities must be pretty messed up if he wants to wait until '''after''' he's confronted the Decepticons to install his T-cog and regain his weaponry and ability to transform.
* Dreadwing reveals that he has a sword. Whilst a sword has been shown to be included with his toy, this is the first time he has ever used it in-series.
* The Apex Armor is black, silver, and gold—a direct indication that it was created by Solus Prime, one of the Thirteen.
* Either Dreadwing really knows how to handle a blade, or he was just showing off.
* The Apex Armor was established in ''[[Exiles]]'' as a relic of Solus Prime; however, Starscream calls it armor of "Decepticon origin". Maybe he isn't all that knowledgeable on the Thirteen?

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[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Orion Pax, Part 1

2012-04-17T15:41:25Z

Karhukjnsi: An interesting note I actually thought had already been up, at least, that's how I interpreted it when I saw the episode.

{{disambig3|Orion Pax}}
{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 27
|prev=One Shall Rise, Part 3
|next=Orion Pax, Part 2
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|title="Orion Pax, Part 1"
|airdate=[[February 18]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[Nicole Dubuc]]
|directed by=[[Vinton Heuck]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

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'''Megatron manipulates the impaired Optimus into joining the Decepticons.'''

==Synopsis==
With the [[Autobot]]s back at base after [[Unicron]]'s defeat, [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] grimly outlines the situation and speculates that [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] has reverted to Orion Pax, his pre-Prime self.

On the ''[[Nemesis (Prime)|Nemesis]]'', [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] makes a ship-wide announcement that Orion Pax is to be treated as a guest. [[Airachnid]] doesn't think it's wise to let an Autobot on board, but Megatron isn't concerned and has his own plans for Orion. Elsewhere on the ship, [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] affixes a new [[Decepticon]] [[insignia]] to Orion's shoulder.

[[William Fowler|Fowler]] wonders why they can't just track down Optimus's signal, but Ratchet says it hasn't been on their sensors since they left the [[Earth]]'s core. They must find some way to track down Optimus regardless, so they can somehow restore his memory. The best bet seems to be to use the [[Key to Vector Sigma]], but the problem is, [[Vector Sigma]]'s on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

Megatron begins to fill Orion Pax in on what's been happening, spinning a yarn about how Orion has been a captive of the Autobots, who are led by the Warlord Ratchet. Orion is shocked at the images Megatron shows him of a war-ravaged Cybertron.

[[June Darby|June]] announces that there's no way [[Jack Darby|Jack]] is going to Cybertron, but Ratchet says only Jack can use the key to access Vector Sigma. The point's moot anyway, as they don't have any way to get to Cybertron. As [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]] points out, the [[GroundBridge]] barely made orbit, though [[Miko Nakadai|Miko]] wonders why Ratchet can't just "turbo-charge" it.

With Megatron finished "informing" Orion, the latter vows to help the Decepticons overcome Ratchet and the Autobots. Megatron has [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] remove any incriminating evidence from the ship's data core so Orion can be put to work furthering the Decepticon cause without any risk of him finding anything embarrassing.

[[Sierra]] turns up at [[KO Burger]] to visit Jack as he works at the drive through, confused that she never sees him outside school. Their discussion is interrupted by [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] picking him up as his shift ends. Sierra jumps to the obvious conclusion after hearing the female voice, and seems unconvinced by Jack's claim that it's his mother. Arcee reports that they haven't detected Optimus yet.

Megatron discusses their new comrade with Knock Out, specifically his task to decrypt records stolen from the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] archives near the end of the War. Knock Out wonders if they shouldn't beef up the security, but Megatron feels that Orion will work better if he feels he is not under threat. In any case, Orion's workstation has been located close to the [[energon]] storage, which is under heavy guard.

Back at [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|base]], Ratchet is "tinkering" with the GroundBridge.

Orion has managed to decode some of the data from the Iacon archives, giving coordinates on Earth of stashed Cybertronian technology, possibly weapons. He is puzzled by the absence from the ''Nemesis'' of [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] who is mentioned in the documents as being Megatron's second-in-command, but Megatron claims Starscream is dead. Megatron returns to the bridge, where he tells Soundwave he's concerned that Orion will soon learn the truth.

Fowler contacts the Autobots to let them know that the Decepticons are attacking one of the military bases they hit two months before. Bumblebee, Bulkhead and Arcee respond, finding Knock Out and Breakdown in the process of stealing a power source. As the pair GroundBridge out, Arcee races through after them and begins speeding through the ''Nemesis'', bashing Vehicons and hunting for Optimus. Soundwave soon relays her presence to Megatron, and though Airachnid offers to deal with it, Megatron sends Soundwave to ensure the Autobot is escorted off the ship. Alerted by the fighting, Orion emerges from his quarters, but Soundwave manages to GroundBridge Arcee off the ship just before Orion can see her.

Deposited somewhere Arctic, Arcee is soon back at base admitting she didn't succeed in determining the location of the ship or whether Optimus was even aboard. Fowler makes a brief call to yell at them for the human casualties at the base, and tensions among the Autobots soon spill over into arguing. Jack, however, believes they can commandeer the Decepticon [[space bridge]] once it's complete, and use it to reach Cybertron. The Autobots are doubtful, but determined to try and find the space bridge.

Meanwhile, [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] sneaks back on board the ''Nemesis'' to steal a stack of [[energon cube]]s. Though he deals with the Vehicons guarding the energon storage, more are on their way, and he's forced to duck into a nearby room. His relief is momentary, as he finds himself face to face with Optimus Prime.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (1)
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (2)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (3)
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (4)
|c2=
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (10)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (11)
*[[Airachnid]] (12)
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|"Orion Pax"]] (13)
*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (14)
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (15)
*[[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] (17)
|c3=
*[[William Fowler]] (5)
*[[June Darby]] (6)
*[[Jack Darby]] (7)
*[[Miko Nakadai]] (8)
*[[Raf Esquivel]] (9)
*[[Sierra]] (16)

|c4=
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (18)

}}

==Quotes==
"—and the first to address him as Optimus Prime will have their voice box torn out."
:—'''Megatron''' makes plain the penalty for failure.

"Your mom looks good in leather, on your bike..."
:—'''Sierra''' is unconvinced that [[Arcee (Prime)|the girl on the motorcycle]] is really Jack's mom

"One question, Megatron, why are we called 'Decepticons'?" 
"Another craven Autobot scare tactic. The name was meant to demonize us. Instead, we wear it as a badge of honor. For if speaking the truth is deception, then we are gladly guilty."
:—"'''Orion Pax'''" is (ironically) deceived by '''Megatron'''.

"Bulkhead—" 
"What? ''You needed that?!''"
:—'''Ratchet''' is eternally frustrated, and '''Bulkhead''' should invest in a punching bag.

"Whoa, that's a pretty good idea!" 
"Oh, well if ''Miko'' thinks it's a good idea..."
:—'''Miko''' gets no respect from '''Arcee'''

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
*During his first appearance, the scar on Starscream's right cheek is missing. In the next scene however, it's suddenly there. It also disappears when the lights are flickering after he killed two Vehicons.
*The Vehicons fail to notice that Starscream is flying in formation behind them, and don't hear him land with them inside the ship, even though on both occasions Starscream is no more than a dozen or so meters behind them.

===Continuity notes===
* Fowler refers to the "microchip in his butt" that allows the government to track him, which was previously used for that purpose by the Autobots in "[[Darkness Rising, Part 3]]".
*Starscream's absence is finally acknowledged by Megatron after his supposed capture in "[[Partners]]". He evidently realized that Starscream may have betrayed him again and ordered him to be detained if he returned.
*Megatron refers to Ratchet as the "Doctor of Doom", as the Autobot medic called himself in "[[Stronger, Faster]]".
*The Decepticons previously attempted to seize the same power source in "[[One Shall Fall]]", which according to Agent Fowler, was two months before this episode.
*Starscream still has the scar on his right cheek inflicted by Arcee in "[[Partners]]".

===Continuity errors===
*Ratchet says that Optimus' signal never reappeared at the end of "[[One Shall Rise, Part 3]]", even though it did.

===Transformers references===
*In summarizing his version of history for Orion, Megatron uses the rather specific terminology of "exodus" and "war for Cybertron", pretty blatantly alluding to the [[Transformers: Exodus|novel]] and [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|video game]]. In particular, the first name-drop is kinda forced, as the word isn't even used correctly: Megatron says they are "in exodus on another world", but he means [[Transformers: Exiles|"exile"]].
*Fowler calls Orion a "librarian" in disbelief that he has lost his memories: this was Megatron's favored insult for Optimus in ''Exodus''.
*Megatron refers to the storming of the Hall of Records in the final days of the war for Cybertron; ''Exodus'' climaxed with the Decepticons storming Iacon, and, in ''[[Transformers: Exiles| Exiles]]'', the building is occupied.
*Ratchet remarks that if the government shuts down [[Autobot Outpost Omega One]], then maybe they'll "fire them into space", a fate that befell the Autobots when they fell out of favour with humanity in both the Generation 1 cartoon episode "[[Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1|Megatron's Master Plan]]" and the ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]'' film. His other suggestion, that they be shipped off to "some island", feels like a reference to either the Autobots' presence on [[Diego Garcia]] during ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', or to ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'', the cast of which operates on an isolated island (this episode's writer, Nicole Dubuc, is also the head writer for ''Rescue Bots'', strengthening the potential allusion).
*Arcee remarks that perhaps Optimus gave Jack the Key to Vector Sigma because he thought there was "more to Jack than meets the eye".

===Trivia===
*A 12-minute sneak preview of this episode was made available On Demand on [[February 10]], 2012.
*Polygon resolved the issue of the seemingly empty [[Jasper]] with roving cars!
*Arcee nearly blew her cover while balancing in the drive-thru without her [[Sadie|holographic driver]] touching the ground. Earth bikes can't do that, Arcee.
* One has to wonder why Megatron would have told Optimus that Starscream was dead, if he was also prepared for Starscream to return alive.
* The Decepticon GroundBridge seems to be able to open anywhere inside the ship, since Arcee enters in the middle of one hallway, only to be sent back out at the end of a completely different one.
*Despite [[Out of His Head|previously]] beating Starscream to a pulp for his attempted betrayal, Megatron still allows Airachnid to serve as his subordinate - though his brief scolding of her implies he's well aware of her treachery. This would indeed [[Crossfire|eventually]] catch up to Airachnid.

[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Grill (episode)

2012-04-15T20:26:23Z

Karhukjnsi: Noticed Wheeljack wasn't talked about, despite Fowler directly talking to him in 'Loose Cannons'.

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|next=Armada (episode)
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|caption=
|title="Grill"
|airdate=[[April 14]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[Duane Capizzi]]
|directed by=[[Kevin Altieri]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''Agent Fowler has some explaining to do under the threat of military tribunal and Team Prime's termination.'''

==Synopsis==
[[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]] steps into [[Bryce|General Bryce]]'s office to provide some explanations. Bryce first asks about [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]]'s recent death, and Fowler clarifies that the body the military have is [[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|Nemesis Prime]], though Bryce has trouble swallowing it. Fowler explains a bit about [[MECH]] and wonders if some of MECH's men are special forces like [[Silas]]. Under further questioning, Fowler relates more about the [[Autobot]]s and their war, and his own involvement in helping [[Team Prime]]. Bryce asks him to run through the identities of the Autobots in Team Prime, and comes to the death of [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]. Bryce reiterates that all they have to go on regarding Optimus Prime's recent defection to the [[Decepticon]]s is Fowler's report, and the current debriefing is a result of concerns about the potential danger the Autobots pose, with the possibility of a military tribunal later.

Fowler insists that the Autobots are very careful about protecting [[human]]s, but lets slip about the kids. He quickly covers the mistake by claiming they're civilians working with the Autobots and valuable team members, carefully leaving out the fact that they're minors. Bryce seems mollified, but asks why [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] hasn't been terminated yet, which leads Fowler to mention [[Unicron]]. Bryce decides that Fowler needs a psychological evaluation, though after Fowler clarifies that he didn't say "unicorn", the evaluation is called off. Fowler also relays how both [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] and [[Airachnid]] have gone rogue, and that the Autobots have gained valuable intel from the former. Though he says Optimus thinks [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] could be converted, Fowler doesn't agree. When questioned about Optimus's recent defection, Fowler is confident that Optimus is firmly an Autobot. He mentions the current Decepticon hunt for ancient Transformer artifacts, and has Optimus himself look through the window and converse with Bryce. General Bryce is convinced and dismisses Fowler.

==Featured characters==
(Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in clips from previous episodes.) 
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (4)
* ''[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]'' (12)
* ''[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]'' (13)
* ''[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]'' (17)
* ''[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]'' (19)
* ''[[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]]''
* ''[[Tailgate (Prime)|Tailgate]]''

|c2=
*''[[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]]'' (7)
*''[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]]'' (11)
*''[[Decepticon Miner]]s'' (18)
*''[[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcons]]'' (20)
*''[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]'' (21)
*''[[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]]'' (22)
*''[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'' (25)
*''[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'' (27)
*''[[Airachnid]]'' (28)
*''[[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]]'' (29)
*''[[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]]'' (31)
*''[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]]'' (32)

|h3=Humans
|c3=
* [[Bryce|General Bryce]] (1)
* [[Daley|Private Daley]] (2)
* [[William Fowler]] (3)
* ''[[MECH Surgeon]]'' (6)
* ''[[Silas]]'' (8)
* ''[[MECH Commando]]'' (9)
* ''[[MECH Navigator]]'' (10)
* ''[[Miko Nakadai]]'' (14)
* ''[[Jack Darby]]'' (15)
* ''[[Raf Esquivel]]'' (16)
* ''[[Museum security guard|Guard]]'' (23)
* ''[[June Darby]]'' (24)

|c4=
* ''[[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|Nemesis Prime]]'' (5)
* ''[[Scraplet]]s'' (26)
* ''[[Unicron]]'' (30)
|}}

==Quotes==
'''Fowler''': General Bryce here just needs to confirm the state of your health and welfare. 
'''Optimus''': I am fine, General Bryce. How are you? 
'''Bryce''': I'm well, uh, soldier.
:—'''Agent Fowler''' has '''Optimus Prime''' set the record straight with '''General Bryce'''.

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
* Being a [[clip show]], this episode shows bits from virtually every episode of the series up to this point.
* Like Miko, General Bryce mistakes Unicron with a unicorn.
* Fowler referenced the title of "[[Loose Cannons]]" while talking to General Bryce.

===Trivia===
* As previously revealed on the package of the Ultimate Opponents Entertainment Pack, [[Silas]]'s real name is Leland Bishop. Newly revealed in this episode is his former military rank of Colonel.
* Aside from all the clips shown in this episode, the only Transformer appearing physically in this episode is Optimus Prime.
* We finally get an explanation for why Fowler can fly a jet without a flight suit. At some point (most likely before "[[Darkness Rising, Part 1]]"), Ratchet modified the air pressure regulators in Fowler's jet. Fowler also makes a comment about the jet being a VTOL, which explains the maneuvers it made in "[[Loose Cannons]]".
* Interestingly enough, when Bryce asks Fowler for a headcount of the Autobots, [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] isn't mentioned despite Fowler's knowledge of his presence on Earth (he even had a face-to-face discussion with Jackie!).

[[Category:Clip shows]]
[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Seeker (body-type)

2012-03-25T22:17:23Z

Karhukjnsi: Pretty sure you're mixing up Skyquake with Dreadwing, Dreadwing IS a Seeker, Skyquake, the green one, has not been delcared as such. Otherwise, show me such packaging.

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[[Image:Seekers.png|right|300px|thumb|Well, they keep the toy-repainting fans off the streets, at least. (Generic Seekers from, clockwise: 1) MtMtE Part 3, 2) sticker sheet, 3-6) Five Faces of Darkness)]]

The term '''Seeker''' refers to [[Decepticon]] jet troopers who share [[Starscream (disambiguation)|Starscream]]'s [[body-type]] but with different colors or minor variations in wing and head shapes. This is most clearly and commonly known from ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'', but any franchise with a Starscream is almost [[To sell toys|inevitably]] going to feature a similar "family" of [[redeco]]ed jet-formers.

The word "Seeker" hovered a long time in a strange gray area between official and fan-coined terms. It seems to have originated in ''extremely'' obscure official or semi-official writing, but somehow became widely used among fans. ''(See [[#Origin of the term|below]].)'' In 2002, the term appeared in dialog from the first issue of ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' from [[Dreamwave Productions]], [[Canonizing|making it truly official]] after years of controversy. It has subsequently appeared in many other places such as on toy packaging, books, and in other stories.

==Generation 1 Seekers==
===Originals===
[[Image:MainSeekers.gif|300px|thumb|right|The original Seekers]]
In Generation 1, there were six Seekers originally given names and characterization: [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]. The first three, the season one Seekers, had animation designs done primarily by [[Shōhei Kohara]].
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===Coneheads===
[[Image:ConeheadsGenerations1.jpg|200px|thumb|right|The Coneheads.]]
The last three Generation 1 Seekers are usually designated as "[[Conehead]]" Seekers by fans for their distinctive transformation that leaves the jet nosecone pointing up. The animation models for the Conehead Seekers were designed by [[Floro Dery]].
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===Skyraiders===
[[Image:WingsofHonor-Skyraiders.jpg|right|thumb|250px|New guys, same ol' body-type.]]
The term "Skyraiders" (see [[#Alternate terms|alternate terms]]) was assigned to the prototypical Starscream-like air warriors that [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] developed at the very beginning of the war. The ranks of the Skyraiders did not seem to include any of the usual Seekers, but instead comprised other flying Decepticon characters. In addition to Skyquake himself, the Skyraiders were [[Leozack]], [[Hellbat (Victory)|Hellbat]], [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]], and [[Guyhawk]].
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===And all the rest===
[[Image:MTMTEGenerics-OilField.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Aw, not "[[When Continents Collide]]" again...]]
In the Generation 1 cartoon there were large numbers of [[generic]], unnamed Seekers in addition to the named characters. They came in a wide variety of colors, from extra duplicates of Starscream or one of the other named guys, to original and distinct looks all their own. They seem to have formed the bulk of the Decepticon forces on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], as well as among [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s initial troops on [[Earth]]. They gradually became less common, perhaps as a result of casualties... or the cartoon's production team becoming more careful, or more-likely having more "actual" Decepticons to work with as the toy line expanded. (Extra [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] units and alternate color cassettes were also used along with these Seekers, early on, to fill out the comparatively thin Decepticon ranks.)

These unsung Seekers would be recognized years later in ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' toy form as the [[Air Warrior]]s (all using the common lavender/white color scheme). Soon afterward, the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] ''Generation One'' comic series introduced an army of similarly-colored Seeker drones.

[[Image:AirWarriors MTMtE.jpg|right|200px|thumb|You talking to me? Or him? Or the other one?]]

Around the same time, another background Seeker was also given a new life through toys and Dreamwave comics: [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. This yellow-orange Seeker was a nameless background character in the first episode of the ''Transformers'' cartoon, until [[e-Hobby]] turned him into an [[exclusive]] toy (available with an [[Autobot]] also based on a [[Hauler|first-episode cameo]]). Now [[Hasbro]] [[Sunstorm (disambiguation)|can't get enough of him]]. Another generic Seeker was given attention: [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]]. Like Sunstorm before him, he was based on one of the background Seekers from the original cartoon, in this case the episode "Divide and Conquer" (see below).
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Unnamed Seekers with their own distinct color schemes appear in the following episodes as noted below:

[[Image:Sunstorm Cartoon.jpg|250px|thumb|One for all, and all for one. Sunstorm and co. attack.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]"
:In the "return to [[Great Dome|Iacon]]" scene on Cybertron, five to seven Seekers appear (wide shots depict a group of five, but the close-ups give us seven distinct color schemes.) The first three are (as far as colors are concerned) Skywarp, Starscream (with a deeper voice), and Thundercracker. In a following shot, we see a lavender Seeker with a flamethrower pack, a medium-blue Seeker with white trim, holding his arm gun like a rifle, a yellow/orange Seeker who would become Sunstorm... and lurking in the back, a very dark-blue Seeker with white trim barely visible, but there if you look.

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[[Image:MmteSeekers2.gif|250px|thumb|Lots of generic Seekers from this one.]]
* "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]" and "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3|Part 3]]"
:The mother lode of unnamed Seekers. Especially if you like variations of blue and lavender. Crowds of them appear at the start of the final battle. At least six different Seekers of various shades and decos of blue and at least four of various shades and decos of lavender (two with black tail fins in jet mode, two with white). Also, a blue variant (seen in the picture above) missing his wings and shoulder vents appears in "Part 3".

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[[Image:DivideandCon.gif|300px|thumb|Divide and Conquer Seekers]]
* "[[Divide and Conquer]]"
: Avert your eyes! One deep blue, one eye-burning bright green, and one garishly bright yellow. This trio is often referred to by fans as "the [[Rainmaker]]s" because they started an [[acid rain]] shower to irritate a group of [[Autobot]]s. The green jet in this grouping was made into the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] character, whose name was initially supposed to be "Rainmaker", then "Acid Rain".

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[[Image:UltimateDoom.gif|300px|thumb|Ultimate Doom Seekers]]
* "[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 3]]"
: Two blue variants and one really nice looking pine-green Seeker appear as part of Shockwave's forces trying to prevent the rescue of [[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

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* "[[Five Faces of Darkness]]"
: One all-gray Seeker, one with [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]'s coloration, and one with [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]'s. There's also an interesting Conehead variant. (All of which appear in the main image above.)

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[[Image:NotDirge.gif|200px|thumb|Dark Awakening Seeker]]
* "[[The Transformers: The Movie]]" & "[[Dark Awakening]]"
: One season 1-style [[:Image:DirgeseekerTFMovie.jpg|Seeker]] with Dirge's colors appears in jet mode in the attack on Autobot City in the movie, and next to the actual Dirge in the episode.

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* Puffy stickers
: A sheet of Transformer puffy stickers featured a rare generic with a Starscream-based color scheme. He is pictured above as well.

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* [[Transformers: Punch-Out Book]]
: In addition to Starscream, Skywarp and numerous identical copies of both of them, this construct-it-yourself battle scene features two distinct color schemes. Each features a solid grey body with solid color wings and tail wings: one red, one yellow.

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* [[Project Brain Drain]]
: While Ramjet, Thrust and Dirge are named and Skywarp is identifiable, there are numerous unnamed Seekers including a second individual with Thrust-style wings.

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[[Image:Returntocybertron-seeker.jpg|200px|thumb|Return to Cybertron Seeker.]]
* "[[Return to Cybertron]]"
: This relatively obscure [[Sticker Adventures]] tale gives us a brief glimpse of a Seeker with a Thundercracker/Skywarp mix; blue body, purple tailfins and wing stripes. You can't tell much more about him, given that he is A: partially obscured and B: exploding.

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[[Image:PretenderClassicsBoxArt.jpg|150px|thumb|"Classic Pretender" Seekers.]]
* [[Classic Pretender]] [[Package art|box art]]
: The box art (also used for adverts in the Marvel UK comic) for this line of toys shows Starscream attacking his Autobot counterparts alongside three others sharing his body-type. All have a silver front half in jet mode, while one has green rear fins, one has red and one is in shadow.
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[[Image:TFcommagdivebombvsjhi.jpg|right|100px|thumb|]]
* [[Transformers Comic-Magazin]] [[Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 18|Issue 18]]
: The German comic, well known for its often wacky coloring, contained a Seeker with a color scheme [[Jhiaxus|suspiciously familiar]].

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===IDW comics continuity===

Seekers are elite officers in the Decepticon army, and are expected to fulfill a leadership role on the battlefield in commanding other Decepticon troops. Seekers are expected to show absolute loyalty to the Decepticon cause. {{storylink|Seasons in Flight}} {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}

The seekers all take on the same body type out of respect to their commander, Starscream, and hold a position of prestige within the Decepticon ranks {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}}

[[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] are Seekers, although they may be using a different definition of the term. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 14|All Hail Megatron #14}}

{{note|Confusingly, the human organisation [[Skywatch]] referred to [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] as "Seekers".}}

==UK Generation 2 comic==
[[Image:G2UKWarWithoutEndJetGuy.jpg|thumb|]]
An unnamed seeker with a light blue body with white face, light red helmet and thighs, and yellow cockpit cover was hanging around when Megatron boarded the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. {{storylink|War Without End (issue)|War Without End}}

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==Unicron Trilogy Seekers==
According to one minor source in ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', when any Transformer converts to a jet, he is called a "seeker"<ref>''[[Transformers Armada: The Awakening]]'' DK Readers book.</ref>. But the closest specific characters to the Generation 1 Seekers are this universe's own [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]/[[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]/[[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] trio. All three even used the same toy mold in their first release, although Skywarp was heavily [[Retool|retooled]] from the others (including getting an entirely new-mold [[Mini-Con]] partner). While new Decepticon-allied jet characters named [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]] and [[Ramjet (Armada)|Ramjet]] were released in ''Armada'', they each had their own unique molds. However, whereas Ramjet was simply the Mini-Con partner of [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], Thrust was a [[bulk]] who even had a VTOL engine in jet mode, a conehead and vertically-oriented wings in robot mode. Although Thrust's original toy was green, redecos looked a bit more like his G1 incarnation. It was also redecoed into ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]].

Though only Starscream appeared in the follow-up franchise, ''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'', several Seekers appeared in the final portion of the Unicron Trilogy, ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]''. Starscream was back in a form heavily inspired by ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' Starscream design (itself based on the "tetrajet" (see below)), while Thundercracker received a completely different body. A Skywarp was also released as a redeco of Thundercracker.

Further, the ''[[Legends Class|Legends of Cybertron]]'' Starscream toy, a tiny, simplified version of his main toy, was redecoed three more times: [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]] as a giveaway at [[ComicCon 2005]], [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] as a giveaway at [[BotCon 2005]], and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]] as part of the last wave of the LOC line at retail.

==Live-action movie franchise Seekers==

In the letters page for [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan's tie-in comic]], the movie versions of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]], and [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] were first referred to as Seekers—by Starscream himself, no less. [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] was noticeably absent from Starscream's list, despite also being a jet and Thundercracker also being the name/body for a line of drones. This left it unclear what a Seeker ''is''. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|#9's Star Screams}}

The term was used twice in IDW movie comics, meaning different things—[[Seeker (Movie)|Starscream's crack unit]], and [[Seeker (ROTF)|ancient spacefaring Transformers]].

In the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|movie sequel]], Jetfire describes himself as a Seeker. One of the early categories of Transformers, they were created to seek out stars which could be harvested for energon. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

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==Shattered Glass==
The term is taken to refer to [[Seeker (SG)|a group of evil Autobots with car alternate modes who share the same color of black]].

==Animated continuity==
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==Aligned continuity==
The Seekers were a pre-existing group long before the formation of the Decepticons. There is some indication that the Seekers are an elite group of the best of the best fliers, although what (if anything) distinguishes a Seeker from any other flying Transformer is open to question. They tend to mostly, though not always, share a common design.

In an effort to placate the eternally fueding cities of [[Vos]] and [[Tarn]] each was given something of value. Vos thus became the home of the [[Air Commander|Cybertronian Air Command]] home base of the Seekers. [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] was one of their leaders before the war, and [[Autobot High Council|High Councilor]] [[Contrail]] seems to have been another. The Seekers were employed in ancient times to guard the secret of [[Dark Energon]] hidden aboard [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon Station]]. They kept this charge even when Starscream allied with the Decepticons, though for the most part they remained largely independent in the civil war.

[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]], apparently upset at being pulled away from the [[Crystal City]], manuvered Vos and Tarn into destroying each other, wiping out most of the Air Commanders that formed the basis of Starscream's power and bolstering his own position as Second-in-command.

In the aftermath of this betrayal, many of the surviving Seekers from Vos joined the Autobots, becoming the [[Aerialbot (WFC)|Aerialbot]]s. [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] was one notable Seeker who defected from the Decepticons to the Autobots, helping them exploit their own flight skills further.

As part of his power play with Starscream, Megatron sent gladiators to kill many of the Air Command's scientists to finally take control of Trypticon away from the Seekers. ''{{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}''

'''Known Seekers:'''
*Starscream
*[[Skywarp (WFC)|Skywarp]]
*[[Thundercracker (WFC)|Thundercracker]]
*Jetfire
*Contrail
*[[Bitstream]]
*[[Hotlink]]
*[[Nacelle]]
*[[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]]
*[[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]]

==Origin of the term==
Although "Seeker" is the most well-known name for these Decepticons, the reason for its wide use is a bit of a mystery.

[[Image:Seekers ad text.jpg|left|197px|thumb|No, you fool, we're following orders: We were told to scour the countryside, so we're scouring it.]]

There are only two known official uses of the term in 20th century, both of them in department-store advertisements from the [[1984]] holiday season. The J.C. Penney catalog (sometimes called a "wishbook") featured a page dedicated to ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' that included this statement in its description of Starscream: "Airplane with sensational F-15 styling scours the countryside searching for Autobots. When they're found, the Seekers set out to destroy them." It also said [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] "sends out messages to the Seekers and other Decepticons".<ref>J.C. Penney 1984 wishbook [[:Image:Seekers ad.jpg|(full-page scan)]]</ref> Additionally, the now-defunct discount retail chain Zayre put out an ad in November 1984 listing Starscream and either Thundercracker or Skywarp as "Decepticon Seeker".<ref name="savead">Zayre 1984 ad [http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf84.html (scan at The Vintage Space Toaster Palace)]</ref>

Some fans interpret those two seemingly-unrelated instances to mean that the capitalized term "Seeker" was handed down by [[Hasbro]] in promotional materials, and those retailers happened to run with it. It's impossible to know one way or the other with any certainty, but the most curious aspect is that the online ''Transformers'' fan community was already using the word in the early '90s, when the [[fandom]] was just getting on its feet. Were those obscure toy ads strong enough in the fandom's collective memory to determine common parlance almost ten years after the fact? Or were there more official usages that have since disappeared?

Even the '90s-era fandom didn't know where the term had come from, as evidenced by confused conversations from that time on [[alt.toys.transformers]].<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/e885ffdf4355e933/13eeeeae7e2483b7?tvc=17 alt.toys.transformers thread from 1996 about the origin of "Seeker"]</ref> While no one cited those toy ads, there were plenty of ''wrong'' answers, which may explain the term's staying power. The strongest of those erroneous explanations was that it had come from the phrase "[[Ferak|hunter-seeker skyship]]" used in [[The Smelting Pool!|issue 17]] of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel US comic]]. However, the Decepticons it is applied to are shown only in their flight modes, which look nothing like the jets in question. In fact, the Coneheads make their first appearance in the same issue, and their Cybertronian flight modes appear very similar to their [[Earth]] jet forms (if not completely identical), and completely ''different'' from the craft which are referred to as hunter-seekers. The only real connection between the hunter-seekers we were shown and the "Seekers" is that there's more than one of them and they fly.

During this phase of questionable canonicity, fans flirted with other terms such as "Skyraider" ''(see [[#Alternate terms|below]])'', but in 2002 [[Simon Furman]] used "Seeker" in a Dreamwave comic script, which sealed the deal of officiality and set the tone not just for the fandom, but for the ''Transformers'' fiction that came afterwards as well.

==Alternate terms==
[[Image:86Planes.jpg|thumb|left|200px|I don't know what to call you, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], but I know "plane" isn't it.]]

The most obvious alternate name for these Transformers—and the one generally used by toy [[Pack-in material|pack-in]] [[catalog]]s—is '''[[Decepticon Planes]]'''. While usually clear enough from context, this term has the weakness that there are many Decepticon planes who do not share this body-type. Also, the term is rarely, if ever, used outside of toy-specific contexts. The first [[United Kingdom|UK]] toy pack-in catalog referred to the group as '''strike planes'''.<ref>First UK toy catalog [http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/img/toysheets/g1/uksheet01/1.jpg (scan at Transformers @ The Moon)]</ref> In Japan, they were called '''Jetrons'''.

Within the fiction, the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] episode "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" features [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] calling Thundercracker a '''Deceptijet'''. And the 1985 audio book "[[Sun Raid]]" has Megatron ordering the '''Deceptiplanes''' (Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker) to break off an attack. The audio book "[[Jaws of Terror]]" referred to them as "Decepticon superjets."

[[Image:Tetrajet seekers.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Did you ever wonder why we had to run for shelter...]]

For a long time, it has been common among fans to refer to the Seekers' cartoon Cybertronian forms (from the episode "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" among others) as '''tetrajets''' because their shape resembles a [[wikipedia:tetrahedron|tetrahedron]], a pyramid with a triangular base.

If there was ever an official term that could've given "Seeker" a run for its money, it was the one used on the [[Europe]]an ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' packaging of Starscream and Ramjet: '''Skyraiders'''.<ref>Starscream and Ramjet's European ''Generation 2'' packaging [http://www.cobraislandtoys.com/tf/1992/starscreamg2boxfront.jpg (photo at Cobra Island Toys)]</ref> That term also appeared in those characters' profiles in the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (Fleetway)|UK ''Generation 2'' comic]]. When the modern fandom dug this information up, "Seeker" was still considered a fan-generated term, so there was a push to supplant it with "Skyraider". But Furman's use of "Seeker" in the then-current Dreamwave comics, coupled with the rediscovery of the J.C. Penney wishbook, put a damper on that movement. Some years later, the term "Skyraider" was officially resurrected to describe the jet warriors in the [[BotCon 2009]] set "[[Wings of Honor]]" (based on the [[Starscream_(Armada)#Energon|''Energon'' Starscream mold]]). [[Skyquake (G1)|Skyquake]] was indicated as the body-type's developer.

==Games==
===''Transformers: Mystery of Convoy''===
{{storylink|Transformers: Mystery of Convoy}}
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===Transformers: Cybertron Adventures===
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{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

==Toys==
{{note|Because of the bodytype-sharing nature of the Seekers, this section includes only molds that have been decorated as two or more Seeker characters, omitting a large number of molds unique to a single character.}}
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Redeco.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The original Seekers.]]
* '''[[Decepticon Planes]]''' (1984)
{{collist|3|
:* [[Skywarp (G1)/toys|Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys|Thundercracker]]
}}

* '''Decepticon Planes''' (1985)
{{collist|3|
:* [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]
}}

:The original Seeker mold was the [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#F-15 Eagle|F-15]] ''[[Diaclone]]'' design, noted for its detailed jet mode, extremely limited robot-mode articulation, and the need to remove/add many parts during transformation.

:The mold was initially decorated as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker. In 1985, Ramjet, Dirge and Thrust were created out of this mold, each with unique new wing toolings and color schemes. Redecorated [[retool]]s of the mold also appeared in ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' as Starscream and Ramjet, featuring new accessory [[soundbox]]es.

:This mold subsequently has been extensively reissued and redecorated; see [[Starscream (G1)/toys|Starscream (G1) toys]] for a ridiculously long list of examples. The reissues have included the original six characters as well as the retro-Generation-1 character [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].

* '''[[Action Master]]s''' (1990)

:This non-transforming action figure mold was sold as Starscream, and later redecorated as Thundercracker for the European market.

===''Machine Wars''===
[[Image:MWSkywarp.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Machine Wars'' Skywarp]]
* '''Basic''' (1997)

:A small [[Flipchanger|flipchanger]] mold, originally intended for ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'', was issued as Thundercracker and Skywarp.

===''Armada''===
* '''Max-Con''' (2002)

:An all-new mold sold at the $20 price point was originally issued as ''Armada'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]], redecorated as ''Armada'' [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]], and retooled as ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)|Skywarp]]. The retooled version was later issued as the new character [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] in the first ''Universe'' toy line.

===''Smallest Transforming Transformers''===
[[Image:STFStarscream toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Smallest Transforming Transformers'' Starscream]]
:The ''Smallest'' line, issued in Japan in 2003, featured a reduced-scale version of the original Generation 1 Seeker mold.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker, and retooled as Thrust.

===''Robot Masters''===
:A new Seeker mold was created for Japan's ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' subline. It is based on the original toy, but redesigned at a smaller size and with enhanced articulation.

:It was issued as Starscream, Skywarp and Thundercracker.

===''Titanium''===
[[Image:TitaniumHeroesWWThundercracker.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Titanium'' Thundercracker]]
:A new Seeker mold created for the ''[[Titanium Series]]'' subline features a Cybertronian-based alternate mode, derived from the characters' appearance in ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' (itself loosely based on the original pyramid jets seen in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".) This mold has been issued as Thundercracker, Starscream, Skywarp (a convention exclusive), Sunstorm, and Thrust (a Target Exclusive).

===''Cybertron''===
* '''Legends of Cybertron''' (2006)

:A tiny version of the Voyager mold, issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and redecorated as ''Universe'' [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]], ''Armada'' [[Skywarp (Armada)#LOC|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (LOC)|Sunstorm]], and Generation 1 [[Ramjet (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)#Universe_.282008.29|Thrust]].
:A small version of the Deluxe mold was available as [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]] and was redecoed as [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|Starscream]] for the ''[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' toyline.

* '''Deluxe''' (2006)

: Though Thundercracker wasn't the same mold as Starscream in this series, his deluxe toy was redecoed as Skywarp.

* '''Voyager''' (2006)

:This mold, based on G1 Starscream's ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' appearance, was issued as ''Armada'' Starscream, and later redecorated as Generation 1 Dirge.

===''Classics''===
[[Image:Henkei Thundercracker toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Thundercracker]]
* '''Deluxe''' (2006)

:An all-new mold at the $10 price point, the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Seeker design retains the F-15 alternate mode, but with a new transformation scheme and modern articulation.

:Like the original, this mold has been redecorated and retooled numerous times. In addition to the original six Seekers, it has also been issued as the character [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]]. The various uses of this mold have occurred in the ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei!]]'', ''[[Universe (2008)|Universe]]'', ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' toylines in addition to its original release in ''Classics''. Versions of this mold have been mass retail releases, store exclusives, specialty exclusives, convention exclusives and fan club exclusives.

{{collist|3|
:* [[Ramjet (G1)#Classics|''Classics'' Ramjet]]
:* [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|''Classics'' Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Classics (2006)|''Classics'' Starscream]]
:* [[Dirge (G1)#Timelines|''Timelines'' Dirge]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)#Thrust|''Timelines'' Thrust]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)#Timelines|''Timelines'' Ramjet (G2)]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys|''Timelines'' Thundercracker]]
:* [[Thundercracker (SG)|''Timelines'' Thundercracker (SG)]]
:* [[Dirge (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|''Gentei! Gentei!'' Dirge]]
:* [[Ramjet (G1)#Henkei! Henkei|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Ramjet]]
:* [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Skywarp]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Starscream]]
:* ''Henkei! Henkei!'' Ghost Starscream
:* [[Thrust (G1)#Gentei! Gentei!|''Gentei! Gentei!'' Thrust]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Henkei! Henkei!|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Thundercracker]]
:* [[Acid Storm (G1)|''Universe'' Acid Storm]]
:* [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Starscream]]
:* [[Dirge (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Dirge]]
:* [[Thrust (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Thrust]]
:* [[Thundercracker (G1)#Generations|''Generations'' Thundercracker]]
}}

===''Masterpiece''===
:A larger-scaled, highly complex mold. Issued as Starscream in 2005, with later retools as Skywarp, Thundercracker and most recently Ghost Starscream, with transparent parts.

===Movie (2007)===
* '''Legends'''

[[Image:Movie Legends Starscream.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]]
:This Legends-class mold is a highly simplified, low-cost version of Starscream in his F-22 Raptor body. As such, he has a greatly compromised transformation sequence due to the smaller parts count, with limited articulation and detailing. In addition to numerous redecoes sold as Starscream, it was also used to make ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]].
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* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Movie Voyager Starscream toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|''2007 Live Action Movie'' Starscream]]
:The mold used for the [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' live-action movie]] [[Size class|Voyager]] class [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] figure was retooled and redecoed into [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] (as well as a G1 recolor of Starscream.) For the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' line of toys, the original mold and the retool were recolored again as [[Ramjet (Movie)|Ramjet]] and [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Skywarp]] respectively.

* '''Fast Action Battler'''

:The [[Fast Action Battlers]] version of Starscream was recolored into Ramjet in 2007.
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===''Animated''===
* '''Legends'''

: The tiny [[Legends Class]] Starscream mold was recolored into clear versions of Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, Ramjet and [[Starscream Clone Black Version|a black clone]].

* '''Voyager'''

[[Image:Animated Skywarp Voyager.jpg|right|200px|thumb|''Animated'' Skywarp]]
:The Voyager class [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] from [[Transformers Animated (toyline)|Animated]] was recolored into two of his [[Starscream clone (Animated)|clones]], [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]] and [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]], with a third one, [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]], going unreleased.

* '''Activators'''

: Starscream's [[Activators]] mold, a smaller, auto-transforming design based on the larger toy, was recolored into Thundercracker, [[Dirge (Animated)|Dirge]], Skywarp and [[Ramjet (Animated)|Ramjet]], also based on the clones from the cartoon.

===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
[[Image:ROTF Voyager Starscream.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
* '''Voyager'''

:''Revenge of the Fallen'' Voyager class Starscream is far more accurate to the movie model in both modes than the previous movie's Voyager mold, with a more dramatic transformation scheme to boot. He was only redecoed as himself.

===''Transformers (2010)''===
[[Image:Chronicletoy ez thundercracker.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
* '''Legends'''

:[[Legends Class]] Starscream is a new sculpt based on his Generation 1 jet appearance with many fuselage details borrowed from the [[#Masterpiece|Masterpiece version]]. This sculpt was also used to make ''[[Chronicle]]'' [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Chronicle|Thundercracker]], Starscream, and [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Chronicle|Skywarp]].
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[[Image:ROTF-toy leader Starscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''Transformers 2010'' Starscream]]
* '''Leader'''

:Like the various figures released earlier, Leader-class Starscream transforms into an officially licensed Lockheed-Martin F-22 Raptor fighter jet. He possesses electronic lights and sounds. He was later redecoed into his Movie [[Masterpiece]] version.

===''Dark of the Moon''===
* '''Deluxe'''

:This all-new sculpt transforms into a surprisingly accurate F-22 Raptor while hiding the robot mode parts much better than previous molds. It was later redecoed into [[Thundercracker (Movie)#Dark of the Moon|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (ROTF)#Dark of the Moon|Skywarp]].
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==Merchandise==
[[Image:HoC 3H Seeker Set.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[Starscream (G1)|I]] am [[Thundercracker (G1)|he]] as [[Skywarp (G1)|you]] are he as you are me and [[Air Warrior|we]] are all together.]]
===''Super Collection Figure''===
:A small, PVC plastic figure based on the Seekers' animation model design. It was imported from Takara in the 2002 ''Heroes of Cybertron'' line.

:It was issued as Starscream, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Sunstorm, and as a six-pack of the three original seekers and three generic light purple [[Air Warrior|Air Warriors]]. It was retooled and redecorated as Ramjet, Thrust and Dirge.

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===''Titanium Series''===
[[Image:TitaniumRM Starscream.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Stop, in the name of love...]]

: A small, non-transforming die-cast metal figurine, based upon the Generation 1 cartoon appearance of the Seekers was available decoed as either Starscream or Thundercracker.
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===''MyClone''===
[[Image:MyCloneRamjet.jpg|right|100px|thumb|''Myclone'' Ramjet]]
:A super-adorable figurine mold of Starscream was issued for this line, and redecorated as the [[chase figure]] Thundercracker. A Coneheads mold was also available, issued as Ramjet and chase figure Dirge, and retooled as Thrust.
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===Palisades===
[[Image:PalisadesStarscream.jpg|thumb|]]
:Issued in 2005, this six-inch-tall polystone statue with articulated head and arms was sculpted by [[3L Creation Group]] from a design by [[George Tremarco]]. It was later redecoed as Skywarp, Sunstorm, Thundercracker, and the Ghost of Starscream.
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===''Robot Heroes''===
[[Image:Robot Hero Skywarp.jpg|right|120px|thumb|Robot Heroes Skywarp]]
:Another super-adorable figurine of Starscream, this time launching himself into the air. Redecorated as Skywarp and Thundercracker. A Thrust mold from the same line has yet to be redecorated.
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===''3D Battle-Card Game''===
[[Image:3DBattleCard_Thundercracker.jpg|thumb|right|250px|]]
:This release is a 38-point "Uncommon" piece from the [[3D Battle-Card Game]] composed of punch-out parts from two different cards that can be reconfigured to make a robot or a fighter jet. The parts layout was used to produce Movie versions of [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] (as well as non-Seeker characters [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] and [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]]) in the initial release and Generation 1 [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] in the "Energon Wars" expansion set.
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==Notes==
[[Image:BC05InfiltrationCoverSeekette.jpg|thumb|250px|VOGUE!]]
*''Generation 2'' concept art revealed in the ''[[Transformers Vault]]'' book shows an unreleased desert camo variant on the Ramjet toy (previously seen in toy mock-up form) that would have been named [[Sandstorm (G2)|Sandstorm]].

*A mostly black and grey mock-up of ''Generation 2'' Starscream was also seen from the same source as the Sandstorm mock-up. This toy has "[[:Image:G2BlackDeathStarscream.jpg|Black Death]]" written on the nosecone and may perhaps have also been intended as a new character of that name.

*Another mock-up deco variant of the Starscream toy in [[:Image:G2SSJungleprotojet.jpg|jungle colors]] is also known to exist. As with "Black Death" Starscream and previously mentioned desert camo Ramjet, this may have been intended to be a new character.

*Lastly, ''another'' mock-up deco variant of the Ramjet toy in [[:Image:WhizBangNavyRamjetRedeco.jpg|cloud camo]] is also known to exist. As with all the above mock-up decoes, this may have been intended to be a new character.

* The Transformers [[fandom]] has long mused upon the possibility of female Seekers (and produced countless [[Wikipedia:Mary Sue|self-insertion characters]] that are variants on the theme). A piece of [[Hasbro]] concept art of what appeared to be a female Seeker design appeared on the [[BotCon 2005]]-exclusive cover of [[Infiltration issue 0|Infiltration #0]], but the idea didn't fully see fruition until ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]], the first '''[[canon]]ical''' female character to share a body template with a Starscream. This development is either great or horrible, depending on your perspective.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Jetron''' (ジェットロン ''Jettoron'')

==References==
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[[Category:Decepticon subgroups]]
[[Category:Fandom]]
[[Category:Generation 1 subgroups]]
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[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]
[[Category:Wings Universe subgroups]]

Seeker (body-type)

2012-03-25T07:51:16Z

Karhukjnsi: Skyquake actually isn't referred to as a Seeker, only Dreadwing was "captain of a Seeker armada". What they both were: "fiercely loyal to the Decepticon cause", not explicitly Seekers.

Loose Cannons

2012-03-25T07:49:03Z

Karhukjnsi: Only Dreadwing was referred to as "a captain of a Seeker armada" not Skyquake. Though the twins are equally "fiercely loyal" to the Decepticon cause.

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 32
|prev=Operation Bumblebee, Part 2
|next=Crossfire
|image=
|caption=
|title="Loose Cannons"
|airdate=[[March 24]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[David McDermott]]
|directed by=[[Scooter Tidwell]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''A legendary Autobot returns to Earth to look for a new Decepticon, but Optimus finds that something is not right with the rogue Bot.'''

==Synopsis==
[[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]] calls the Autobots, furious about another fight with possible collateral damage. Though all of them are present at base, [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] posits that the fighters may be infighting Decepticons. However, a video feed shows otherwise, for the two are an unidentified [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]]-like Decepticon—and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] ! Though [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] is thoroughly excited, Fowler demands that the situation be handled pronto.

Outside of Omaha, Wheeljack battles it out with the 'Con. Agent Fowler hovers over the scene and demands stoppage, but is fired upon by Wheeljack. The 'Bot is hit in the shoulder, and falls back as Agent Fowler supplies suppressive fire. A GroundBridge opens up, and the Autobots step out. They aid Wheeljack, and fire upon the Decepticon, who takes cover. Agent Fowler flies overhead, and the Decepticon seizes the opportunity to scan his vehicle. He runs toward a gas station, and Wheeljack aims his blasters at him. Despite Optimus and Bulkhead's cautioning, he fires, and the station explodes as the Decepticon transforms and flies off. Though Wheeljack believes that the 'Con—revealed as [[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]]—rigged it to explode, he is informed otherwise. Though the Wrecker is eager to give pursuit, Optimus tells him that, while on Earth, it would be wise to respect his authority.

Back at base, Ratchet repairs Wheeljack. He apologizes for the collateral damage, but says that his pursuit of Dreadwing warranted it. He starts into the story of his pursuit. Originally, he was looking for Autobot refugees, but when the one he had found— the former Wrecker Seaspray—is blown to bits by one of Dreadwing's bombs, he made it his mission to track the rogue 'Con down. After several solar systems worth of pursuit, Wheeljack caught up with him on Earth. Optimus recounts his own knowledge of Dreadwing—he was a captain of a Seeker armada, and Skyquake's twin. He also infers that Dreadwing's mission is to pay allegiance to Megatron. Wheeljack is eager to get out and kick Dreadwing's tailpipe, but Optimus reels him in, saying that any action taken against the Decepticons must be carefully planned on this foreign planet. This infuriates the Wrecker, who can't fathom the idea of doing nothing. Agent Fowler walks in and admonishes Wheeljack for nearly blowing their cover, and demands that Prime keep a closer watch on his troops. Wheeljack doesn't take well to being called part of the team, and walks off, followed by Bulkhead. Optimus explains Wheeljack's disregard for authority by his inclusion in the Wreckers, a unit that operated outside of normal command.

Somewhere mountainous, Dreadwing holds a laser beacon that continues into the sky. The Nemesis arrives, and he boards. Megatron welcomes his loyalty, but Dreadwing reveals that he was brought to Earth with another purpose as well. He says that he and his twin, Skyquake, shared a split spark, and that he could feel across the galaxy when his brother was released from stasis—and when his spark was extinguished. This information is confirmed by Megatron, and Dreadwing vows to make every Autobot on Earth pay. Megatron avows that they will—eventually, under his terms. He advises the Seeker to obey him, for his best interests.

As Wheeljack works on his [[Jackhammer (Prime)| ship]], Bulkhead attempts to change his mind about the planet. Wheeljack lists the comrades they'd lost in battle, but Bulkhead takes is as all the more reason that they must stick together. Wheeljack doubts Optimus's integrity, but Bulkhead stands firmly by him. Inside the Jackhammer, a challenge comes through over the commlink from Dreadwing. Wheeljack straps in to meet the 'Con, and Bulkhead gets in as well. They jet off to meet their challenger.

Dreadwing faces off against Wheeljack, both determined to finish their business. They exchange fire, and Dreadwing runs and jumps into a crevice. The Wrecker gives pursuit, and Dreadwing avails him of the "surprises" he's left—proximity bombs, scattered all throughout the crevice. He dodges them with ease, and pins the 'Con against a dead end. Bulkhead reveals himself atop the crevice, preventing Dreadwing from flying off. However, he has one last trick up his sleeve—one last bomb, placed meters from Bulkhead's position. It explodes, burying the two under the exploded cliff face as he flies off.

At base, Ratchet finds Bulkhead's transmission over a thousand miles away. At Optimus's inquiry, he says that no response has been made.

In the crevice, Optimus helps Wheeljack out of a pile of boulders. Though Optimus acknowledges that he cannot force Wheeljack to obey his orders, he reprimands the rebel for endangering the safety of one of ''his'' troops. Ratchet informs Optimus over comm that Bulkhead's signal has moved.

Wheeljack and Optimus fly to Bulkhead's location, a shipping depot. They find him in an unfortunate predicament, strapped to a crate with a bomb wired into his chest. Wheeljack gets to work defusing the bomb, but it proves a challenging prospect, as it is laced with all sorts of failsafes.

Dreadwing looks on, with Optimus in his sights. He receives a transmission from Megatron, and tells his leader that he is pursuing his destiny. Megatron responds by saying that Optimus is not so easily beaten.

Bulkhead tries to stop Wheeljack from continuing his attempts to defuse the bomb. He notices that Optimus is gone, and Wheeljack again deprecates Optimus for fleeing when the situation gets hot.

Megatron allows Dreadwing to continue his plan, out of respect for his deceased brother. He disconnects, and muses to Soundwave that he does not expect him to come back. Dreadwing notices that Optimus is not there anymore, and Optimus chooses to announce himself. He appeals to the Decepticon's sense of honor, saying that his master does not respect chivalry and honor as he and his brother did. Dreadwing refuses the offer of defection, and fires upon Prime, who escapes into the maze of containers.

Bulkhead pleads with Wheeljack to leave, but it falls on deaf ears. He says that the only bot who knows how to defuse the bomb is Dreadwing. Wheeljack remarks on the encroaching blaster fire, when he is delivered an uppercut by Bulkhead. The big bot tears out of his restraints, and runs away from his friend.

Dreadwing continues to spar with Optimus, but loses him from his sights.

Bulkhead runs toward the water, apologizing in advance to the sea life, when Wheeljack jumps out and tries to stop him. He is no match for the huge 'Bot, and is pushed along with him. He appeals to Bulkhead, agreeing with the fact that only Dreadwing can defuse the bomb—and that Optimus knows it as well.

The Seeker slowly searches the dock. Suddenly, he hears a scream, and above him, Optimus comes crashing down on top of him with a shipping crane. Pinned, Dreadwing is forced to listen again to Optimus's proposal to defuse the bomb, which is now standing right beside him. Dreadwing is unfazed, saying that he would rather destroy himself and all three Autobots to avenge his brother. Optimus calls his bluff, and says that they too will die in fire with their brother. He grudgingly accepts, and defuses the bomb. However, not about to leave empty handed, Dreadwing sets off the many bombs he had placed throughout the port, and flies off. Wheeljack wonders who will clean that up.

On the ''Nemesis'', Megatron gloats about Dreadwing's defeat, but seems mildly surprised that the Seeker still lives. Dreadwing, in the wake of his defeat, pledges his total loyalty to Megatron.

At the base, now addressing Optimus as "Commander," Wheeljack apologizes for his misjudgment about him earlier. All the Autobots, sans Ratchet, try to convince Wheeljack to stay. He says he'll explore the planet, to see if it's right for him. However, Bulkhead tells him that he has to have an Earth alternate mode.

Outside, Wheeljack transforms, and drives off into the distance.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (2)
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (3)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (4)
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (5)
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (6)
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] (8)
|c2=
*[[Dreadwing (Prime)|Dreadwing]] (7)
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (9)
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (10)
*[[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] (flashback) (11)
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (flashback) (12)
|c3=
*[[Agent Fowler]] (1)
}}

==Quotes==
"Not this again!"
:—'''Agent Fowler''' gets carjacked for the third time.

'''Wheeljack''': You know Wreckers don't call for backup. 
'''Wheeljack''' and '''Bulkhead''': They call for clean-up! 
:—The remaining Wreckers provide an alternative to "Wreck and Rule!"

"I will be quite surprised if we ever set eyes upon Dreadwing again."
:—'''Megatron''' putting his faith into his soldier.

"Sorry, Jackie. It's 'cause I love ya."
:—'''Bulkhead''' shows the tough love.

"Sorry, fishies!"
:—'''Bulkhead''', the Autobot environmentalist.

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===

===Continuity notes===
* This episode features the first on-screen use of the term [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]].
* Soundwave shows scenes of Optimus and Bumblebee's fight with Skyquake in "[[Masters & Students]]".
* Arcee references "Masters & Students" and "[[Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone]]".

===Transformers references===
* Wheeljack namedrops former Wreckers [[Impactor (Prime)|Impactor]], [[Roadbuster (Prime)|Roadbuster]], [[Rotorstorm (Prime)|Rotorstorm]], and [[Pyro (Prime)|Pyro]]. The first two are traditional Wreckers, and the latter two were introduced as Wreckers in ''[[Last Stand of the Wreckers]].'' Seaspray being a Wrecker is a new addition.
* Wheeljack also namedrops [[Sandokan]].
* Dreadwing is referred to as a [[Seeker]].
*Optimus explains how the [[Wreckers]] are a separate team faction from the Autobots.

===Real-world references===

===Trivia===
*Agent Fowler needs to stop flying that jet around Decepticons who look like they turn into jets.
*Wheeljack finally takes an Earth-based vehicle mode. Seems like he's on Earth to stay.
*Dreadwing's proximity bombs have plates resembling his wings. Perhaps they're his trademark symbol for each location he visits--though it doesn't last when it explodes.

{{epstub}}
[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Kup (WFC)

2012-03-19T07:37:29Z

Karhukjnsi: Except, the head is not new, look at the Cyberverse Ironhide, they both have the same style head.

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Kup}}
:''Kup is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCDS Kup universal greeting.jpg|thumb|right|174px]]
'''Kup''' is an Autobot squad commander active during the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]]. [[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]] doesn't like working with him for some reason.

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Ed O'Ross]] (English)
Before departing for a mission to get some data links working again, [[Autobot rookie|a newly trained Autobot]] had a brief exchange with Kup over a communications monitor that consisted of the elderly Autobot uttering the [[universal greeting]]. Once the youth got the links up and running, he contacted [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] who told him he was being reassigned to Kup's team. The recruit looked forward to the exciting times he'd experience being on Kup's team. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers Online''===
Kup thought very highly of [[Zhòng Chuí Tiě Wèi]]. {{Storylink|Transformers Online}}

==Toys==
===Prime===
*'''Sergeant Kup''' (Deluxe Class, 2012)
: Sergeant Kup is a redeco of [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]].<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/transformers-generations--movie-series-asia-exclusives-174569/]</ref>
{{comingsoontoy}}

==Notes==
*In the Nintendo DS version of ''War for Cybertron'', Kup's only appearance is in an easter egg within the game. In the tutorial level, after speaking with [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] and [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]], walk over to the wall with three monitors on the right. Approach the middle monitor, and Kup appears for a chat.
*Whether the recruit survives to actually end up on Kup's squad depends on whether you're playing the Autobot or Decepticon variant of the game. The latter does not turn out well for him.

==Footnotes==
<references />

[[Category:Upcoming toy releases]]
[[Category:Prime Autobots]]
[[Category:Transformers Online Autobots]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Autobots]]

Talk:Forge of Solus Prime

2012-03-18T23:57:59Z

Karhukjnsi:

== Shouldn't the title just be "Forge (Solus Prime)" ==

Since it's "The 'Forge' of [[Solus Prime]]', we don't title [[Core]] as "Core of Cybertron", we also have no problem making [[Star Saber (Prima)]], since there is another "[[Forge]]" and other "[[Star Saber (disambiguation)|Star Saber]]"s, respectively --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 19:57, 18 March 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Forge of Solus Prime

2012-03-18T23:54:17Z

Karhukjnsi:

== Shouldn't the title just be "Forge" ==

Since it's "The 'Forge' of [[Solus Prime]]', we don't title [[Core]] as "Core of Cybertron" --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 19:54, 18 March 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Forge of Solus Prime

2012-03-18T23:54:00Z

Karhukjnsi: New page: == Shouldn't the title just be "Forge", since it's "The 'Forge' of Solus Prime', we don't title Core as "Core of Cybertron" --~~~~

== Shouldn't the title just be "Forge", since it's "The 'Forge' of [[Solus Prime]]', we don't title [[Core]] as "Core of Cybertron" --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 19:54, 18 March 2012 (EDT)

Operation Bumblebee, Part 2

2012-03-18T23:45:29Z

Karhukjnsi: Never took it that the T-Cog was too heavy, but rather that Starscream's his bitch.

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 31
|prev=Operation Bumblebee, Part 1
|next=Loose Cannons
|image=OperationBumblebee2-Forge.jpg
|caption=Whoever holds this hammer, if they be worthy, shall possess the power of [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]].

|title="Operation Bumblebee, Part 2"
|airdate=[[March 17]], [[2012]]
|written by=[[Nicole Dubuc]]
|directed by=[[Vinton Heuck]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''Bumblebee discovers that MECH and Starscream are responsible for his troubles; Ratchet confronts demons from his Cybertronian past.'''

==Synopsis==
With [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] on a medical bed, [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] tells [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] off for taking the scout into battle. When Bumblebee comes around, he faces Ratchet's ire as well, and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] grounds Bumblebee until his [[transformation cog|T-cog]] can be recovered. Ratchet has another idea though—he offers to donate his own T-cog in a transplant. Though Optimus is uncertain, Ratchet convinces him.

[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] is pleased with the new device [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] has secured—a [[force field]] generator—although Megatron's demonstration leaves him startled.

Elsewhere, [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] and [[Silas]] find an [[energon]] deposit, though Silas would appreciate it if Starscream didn't talk so much.

Ratchet selects [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] to do the operation, though she's less than enthusiastic. She starts by putting Ratchet in induced [[stasis lock|stasis]], but before she can do the same for Bumblebee, an alarm signals the appearance of another relic from the [[Vaults of Iacon]]. Optimus calls a halt to the operation so he, Arcee and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] can investigate. No sooner have they left than [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]] contacts the base. He's disappointed only Bumblebee's there to take his call, but passes on the news that he's got the possible coordinates of a [[MECH]] base. Unable to understand Bumblebee, he searches for someone who speaks English, but Ratchet is barely coherent, still recovering from stasis. [[Jack Darby|Jack]] volunteers to pass the message on.

Optimus and his team reach the top of a mountain to find Knock Out and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] uncovering the [[Forge of Solus Prime]]. With it, the Autobots could conceivably create a new T cog for Bumblebee.

MECH infuses the newly-found energon into their creation, but as it begins to stir, Bumblebee bursts through the door. Though unarmed, Bumblebee throws an industrial-sized barrel at Starscream, knocking him flat, and proceeds to shrug off the weapons fire from the MECH goons.

As Knock Out and Breakdown free the forge, the Autobots charge them. While Bulkhead tackles Breakdown, Optimus and Arcee find they have a bit of a problem getting past Knock Out's shield generator, and he pushes them back towards the edge of the cliff.

Bumblebee knocks a bunch of MECH troopers flat, jumps on their robot and tears his T-cog from its innards. No sooner is this done than he's hit by a blast from Starscream. As MECH withdraw, Starscream grabs the T-cog and threatens to destroy it.

Ratchet recovers, only to find Fowler shouting at him about MECH coordinates, and the kids reveal Bumblebee has gone to deal with it.

Meanwhile, Bumblebee has had enough of Starscream's gloating and belts the ex-Decepticon, knocking him flat. As the T-cog flies up into the air, Bumblebee jumps for it, but a quick blast by Starscream spells the end of that attempt. While Starscream leaves, Bumblebee is left with his shattered T-cog. Starscream meets up with MECH outside the compound, but Silas is less than impressed with him for losing the T-cog, and Starscream is soon surrounded by MECH troops.

Optimus and Arcee are forced back to the cliff edge. While Breakdown is distracted by their predicament, Bulkhead takes the opportunity to grab the Forge of Solus Prime and smack the Decepticon with it. Breakdown lands on Knock Out and for a few moments Bulkhead stands triumphant, at least until Megatron steps out of the [[GroundBridge]] and blasts him. Collecting the Forge, the Decepticons leave. Ratchet reports the situation with MECH to Optimus.

Starscream comes around to find MECH gone. When he sees Optimus's team arrive at the MECH base, he tries to transform, only to find his T-cog had been taken, and runs off panicking into the woods. Meanwhile, Bumblebee walks out to join his comrades, sadly holding his own damaged T-cog. Optimus radios Ratchet to prepare for surgery.

On the ''[[Nemesis (Prime)|Nemesis]]'', Megatron attempts to use the Forge, only to discover that it requires the power of a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] to work.

Ratchet finishes operating, restoring Bumblebee's old cog. Though Bumblebee's first few attempts to transform fail, he eventually manages it, and takes Raf for a drive. Ratchet, for his part, seems happy that it worked.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (1)
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (2)
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (4)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (5)
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (6)
|c2=
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (7)
*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (8)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (9)
*[[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] (15)
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (16)
|c3=
*[[Raf Esquivel]] (3)
*[[Silas]] (10)
*[[Jack Darby]] (12)
*[[Miko Nakadai]] (13)
*[[William Fowler]] (14)
|c4=
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (11)
}}

==Quotes==

"You and I both know there exists a way to make him whole again." 
"A transplant. But that would require a donor." 
"You need look no further than the Autobot standing before you."
:—'''Ratchet''' tells '''Optimus Prime''' that he is willing to make a sacrifice.

"...I think I just leaked a little transmission fluid."
:—'''Knock Out''' sums up how intimidating his master truly is.

"Do you ever not speak?"
:—'''Silas''' says what we're all thinking to Starscream.

"Mine's bigger!"
:—'''Bulkhead''' compares hammers with Breakdown.

"Time to jet! Because I ''can''!"
:—'''Starscream''', who really should learn to keep his mouth shut.

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===
*Once again, Starscream's eyes are completely red for the first half of the episode. It's only after Bumblebee hits him with a barrel that they are only red circles. Maybe hitting him with a heavy object is the key to making them normal.

===Continuity errors===

===Continuity notes===
*Once more, Starscream mentions being the one to "offline" [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]].
*In the previous episode, the [[MECH Surgeon]] is shown to be able to lift (and run with) Bumblebee's T-cog without much difficulty. Silas tells Starscream to bring it with him, instead of just picking it up and taking it himself; he's even standing right in front of it. Then again, Silas could just be exerting dominance onto Starscream, metaphorically flexing his "I'm the leader" muscles.

===Transformers references===
* While delirious, Ratchet refers to [[Fuzor]]s, and even names [[Bantor (Prime)|Bantor]], a reference to [[Bantor (BW)|''Beast Wars'' Bantor]].
* Optimus mentions [[Solus Prime]], one of the [[Thirteen]].
* Knock Out unfavorably compares the results of Megatron's failed forging experiment to a "[[Fortress Maximus (disambiguation)|Fortress-Maximus]] Grade [[Nucleon Shock Cannon]]".
* Megatron once again calls Optimus by his pre-Prime name "Orion Pax" from the previous episodes during his gloating.

===Real-world references===
*Knock Out broadly references award shows such as the Oscars and Emmys.
*"Put a tiger in your tank" was a slogan of [[wikipedia:Exxon|Exxon]].

===Trivia===
* Ratchet's random (and awkward) gibberish while in stasis is similar to Fowler's random sayings in "[[Darkness Rising, Part 4]]", and "[[Darkness Rising, Part 5|Part 5]]".
* When Agent Fowler relays the information on MECH's whereabouts to Bumblebee, he says it really slowly and condescendingly, as if he believes Bumblebee has trouble understanding English, rather than just mute. Fowler's kind of a jerk.
* During the fight in the hangar, Bumblebee punches several MECH soldiers, sending them flying through the air with enough force to break the lenses on the prototype. The Autobots must not be trying to use minimum force on MECH; it is very, ''very'' unlikely any of those soldiers survived the blows Bumblebee gave them. Then again, Bumblebee might have been holding a small grudge against them.

[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Talk:Transformers: Prime (toyline)

2012-03-12T21:01:33Z

Karhukjnsi:

Optimus and Megatron toys were revealed at Toy Fair: http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/more-transformers-prime-toys-revealed-optimus-prime-megatron-and-humans-171432/ —[[User:TOM|TOM]] 21:40, 7 February 2011 (EST)
: Yes, we're well aware: [[Miko Nakadai]], [[Jack Darby]], [[Raf Esquivel]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:15, 7 February 2011 (EST)

== SDCC 2011 new toy pics ==

Hasbro stock photos for four new figures - http://comics.ign.com/articles/118/1183012p1.html --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 22:36, 20 July 2011 (EDT)

== Wave numberings ==

Are we certain that the Deluxes Vehicon and Terrorcon Cliffjumper are part of the Robots in Disguise waves and are not part of the First Edition waves? After all, at NYCC 2011, Hasbro stated that the Wheeljack, Soundwave, new mold Bumblebee, and new mold Cliffjumper figures were Robots in Disguise Wave 1. Couldn't these two be "First Edition Wave 3"? SDCC 2011 showed them to be "Wave 3" figures, and they're coming out before the four mentioned "RiD Wave 1" figures. So, what's the story behind putitng them in the RiD main line instead of the FE line? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 22:59, 26 November 2011 (EST)

== Japanese Exclusives? ==

Not going to worry about adding it to the article now (I'm sure someone with more local cred will do it), but how should the new "Prime Targetmaster Companions" from Japan, Skywarp, and the other handful of Japanese-only toys so far announced going to be handled? Just treat them in a similar vein to the (now old) [[Robots in Disguise]] line? - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 18:25, 20 January 2012 (EST)
:I think only the ones that have no Hasbro counterparts should be listed in some fashion. The rest that are still relatively similar to the Hasbro versions shouldn't be listed, since we didn't do that for the Animated toyline page. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:13, 21 January 2012 (EST)

== Separating the First Edition toys from the Robots in Disguise toys ==

Does anyone else think there should be separated individual sections for the First Edition toys and the Robots in Disguise toys? I mean, it might seem a little neater to put all nine First Edition releases by themselves in one section and then all the Robots in Disguise toys below them in a second section, as right now we have them wrapping around each other with things looking a little confusing. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 22:33, 20 January 2012 (EST)

: Seems to be how things are organized on other pages with similar themes (Unicron Battles, etc.). I went ahead and separated them out. Probably should add the 'upcoming item' tags to a few entries here. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 23:29, 20 January 2012 (EST)
:: And now that's done. I didn't add the macro to the first wave of RiD toys, since they're apparently coming out in the UK already and should be in release in the US any time now. I also didn't do anything about the "Movers" since I have no clue about them. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 23:36, 20 January 2012 (EST)

== Gun Jumping? ==
: I didn't think we could/should use store pre-orders as 'verification' of upcoming assortments until they were confirmed. RobotKingdom has had errors in their pre-order information in the past, and some of these products (such as the Bot Shots) don't appear to be Prime products at all. While some of the upcoming material seems obvious (Voyager Megatron), shouldn't we wait for a little more confirmation? There's a reason I didn't put up Skywarp just yet, after all... - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 00:46, 21 January 2012 (EST)
::[[Help:Official info#What constitutes official information?]] Though, if there are indeed any errors in this information, feel free to make any necessary corrections. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:53, 21 January 2012 (EST)
:::Well, the RobotKingdom link doesn't identify the branding of the Bot Shots toys, so those should not be here yet. Also, RobotKingdom is NOT currently on the 'first source' list that you cited. (Again, not trying to be difficult here, just that pre-order information has been burned before, particularly from RobotKingdom). At the very least, the Bot Shot assortment should be removed for the time being, and I think there should be a note added about the sources of future wave information be placed for the time being. This is an admin call, though, so I'm not going to make the edit. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 01:00, 21 January 2012 (EST)
::::Yeah, I wasn't too certain on those, which is why I didn't link them to any specific version of those characters. But, you're right, we'll need the voice of one higher up to decide. Though, Walky did just add [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Silas&diff=680511&oldid=677105 this bit] to Silas' page, so... yeah, I'm stumped. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:05, 21 January 2012 (EST)

== Just a few observations... ==

For one, I'm confident that 'Robots in Disguise' is simply referring to the Deluxe/Voyager price-point figures, the same way that 'MechTech' was used in the Dark of the Moon toyline. Note how only Deluxe/Revealers and Voyager/Powerizers have the 'Robots in Disguise' logo, as well as red details on the packaging, while Legion and Commander have 'Cyberverse', green detailing and no sign of 'Robots in Disguise' anywhere on them. The use of 'Robots in Disguise' for the ENTIRE mainline seems erroneous to me. Secondly, I'm also wondering if perhaps 'Revealers' and 'Powerizers' are simply tentative size-classes. The packaging for the figures still read 'Deluxe' and 'Voyager', and likewise, the Argos catalogue itself lists them as Deluxe and Voyager. I wonder if the Revealer/Powerizer names are actually, like 'CyberTech' and 'Megaverse', terms not being used officially, yet are still in the computer systems for Argos (when picking up my reserved Wheeljack, the Argos worker listed it as 'one Prime Revealer', yet his packaging states him to be Deluxe). I am not a member of any of the online Transformers communities, so I thought it best to raise the point here. If I'm in the wrong, by all means gloss over the non-member's random comments! {{unsigned|90.205.85.159 }}

== Is the BigBadToyStore a credible source? ==

I noticed recently that the BBTS have a page for Japanese 'Prime' figures, including several listed that I don't think have been confirmed anywhere else. TFW2005 have pointed it out and listed the figures by size class, including the new ones. [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 19:48, 26 January 2012 (EST)

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/menu.aspx?menu=2819&category=8098

http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/new-japanese-prime-toy-listings-on-bbts-174235/

: BBTS is very credible, as far as being a secondary source. The only issue here is that we don't know, for sure, what all these Japanese releases actually are just yet. "Dreadwing" seems to be their version of "Skyquake", based on its listing. "Bikon" seems to be a very, very badly romanized version of "Vehicon". "Skywarp" is likely a redeco of the deluxe "Starscream" figure. All of this, of course, could be completely wrong. But, there's no harm, just yet, in just waiting until either Takara updates its page or we start seeing toy pictures. - [[User:Vanguard|Vanguard]] 14:31, 30 January 2012 (EST)

== First Edition line cancelled? ==

[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-first-editions-officially-canceled-for-the-us-174249/ According to TFW2005, BBTS, and TFSource,] Hasbro has pulled the plug on First Edition ''Prime'' figures.
:- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 16:47, 28 January 2012 (EST)

== Arms Micron are listed here twice ==

They were already listed under the First Edition exclusives as Japanese exclusives, and now they gone and had their own section added in, repeating them. Just to clarify, which Arms Micron are First Edition exclusives and which aren't? Where is line drawn for them? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:34, 1 February 2012 (EST)

== Mirage, Evac and Soundwave ==

According to the packaged images, these guys don't actually use the Prime name on their packagings... should they be considered a separate toyline, or is this new TFP toyline actually a Transformers catch-all line that just uses the Prime subtitle where necessary? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:44, 18 February 2012 (EST)

== Cyberverse "Series 2" What is 1 ==

So, bought Prime Cyberverse Ratchet today. In a number of places on his package it says he is "Series 2: 004". But he's wave 1 of Prime toys. Does that mean these are Series 2 counting Movie Cyberverse as "Series 1"? If so we should probably note it. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 14:44, 21 February 2012 (EST)

== Weaponizer ==

Are Weaponizers Leader-class?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 15:24, 27 February 2012 (EST)
:They are Leader class-sized, but are their own distinctive class priced at the Ultra price point. -- Sabrblade (not logged in) 15:30, 27 February 2012 (EST)

== Guess ==
Given how Kup is a retool of Ironhide, isn't it a safe bet to say that Ironhide is in Wave 4? --[[Special:Contributions/12.164.240.144|12.164.240.144]] 13:04, 12 March 2012 (EDT)
:There's nothing to directly indicate that Kup is a retool of Ironhide, we do see that he's a redeco, the head on the Cyberverse Ironhide and the Revealer Kup look very similar in the "fireman's helmet" shape, it may not be a retool. There's also no guarantee that Kup will be out AFTER Ironhide; this could be a similar situation to Generations Wheeljack/RtS Turbo Tracks, where Tracks was a redeco and retool of Wheeljack, but Wheeljack came out later. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 17:01, 12 March 2012 (EDT)

Transformers: Prime (toyline)

2012-03-11T19:53:25Z

Karhukjnsi: Sergeant Kup and Rumble were revealed to be Wave 5 at Cybertron Con.

{{Nav-Prime}}

The '''''Transformers: Prime''''' toyline hit shelves in [[November]] [[2011]]. Originally, [[Hasbro]] played coy with the series receiving a toyline at all, emphasizing that it was a television series first and foremost. There were initial plans to release a small assortment of three Deluxe figures ([[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]], [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] and [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]) in the ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' line before they were moved into the expanded "First Edition" launch line.

The ''Transformers: Prime'' toys released in 2012 will bear the "Robots in Disguise" subtitle.

==First Edition (2011)==
===Deluxe class===
[[Image:Primetoy-ArceeDeluxe.jpg|thumb|Arcee, a Wave 1 Deluxe figure]]
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Arcee (Prime)#FirstEdition|Arcee]]
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)#FirstEdition|Bumblebee]]
*[[Starscream (Prime)#FirstEdition|Starscream]]

'''Wave 1.5'''
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)#FirstEdition|Cliffjumper]]

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)#Terrorcon|Terrorcon Cliffjumper]]
*[[Vehicon (Prime)#FirstEdition|Vehicon]]

===Voyager class===
[[Image:Primetoy-BulkheadVoyager.jpg|thumb|Bulkhead, a Wave 1 Voyager figure]]
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)#FirstEdition|Bulkhead]]
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#FirstEdition|Optimus Prime]]
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===Entertainment Pack===
:*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#EntertainmentPack|Optimus Prime]] vs. [[Megatron (Prime)#EntertainmentPack|Megatron]] (w/ [[Jack Darby#EntertainmentPack|Jack Darby]], [[Miko Nakadai#EntertainmentPack|Miko Nakadai]], and [[Raf Esquivel#EntertainmentPack|Raf Esquivel]])

===Exclusives===
[[Image:Primetoy-OptimusPrimeMatrixofLeadership.jpg|thumb|Optimus Prime in Matrix packaging exclusive to 2011 San Diego Comic-Con]]
'''SDCC Exclusive'''
*[[Matrix of Leadership]] [[Optimus Prime (Prime)#SDCC2011|Optimus Prime]]
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'''NYCC Exclusive'''
[[Image:NYCC-Arcee-Bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Pretty in Pink, she is not.]]
*'''[[Bumblebee (Prime)#NewYork|Bumblebee]] and [[Arcee (Prime)#NewYork|Arcee]], Includes [[Raf Esquivel#NewYork|Raf Esquivel]] and [[Jack Darby#NewYork|Jack Darby]]'''
:Arcee is a [[redeco]] of Deluxe Class Arcee in pink and white [[Arcee (G1)|''Generation 1'' Arcee colors]] and comes with a New York taxicab [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] and NY-themed [[Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel]] figurines. They were sold exclusively at New York Comic-Con 2011.
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'''Japanese Exclusive'''
*[[Megatron (Prime)#FirstEdition|Megatron]] (single pack release of Deluxe class Megatron from the Entertainment Pack released in Hasbro's territories)
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==Robots in Disguise (2012)==
===Deluxe class===
The Deluxe size class gains a dynamic "head reveal" gimmick that has become the universal feature of the figures, whether they be spring-loaded, gear-operated, or simply strategically revealed at the right time by folding down the right panel. Internally, these figures were referred to by Hasbro as "Revealers" due to this gimmick, but the official name remains "Deluxe Class".

'''Wave 1'''
*[[Soundwave (Prime)#Revealer|Soundwave]]
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)#Revealer|Wheeljack]]
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)#Revealer|Bumblebee]] (Second mold)
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)#Revealer|Cliffjumper]] (Second mold)

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Ratchet (Prime)#Revealer|Autobot Ratchet]]
*[[Arcee (Prime)#Revealer|Arcee]] (Second mold)
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'''Wave 3'''
*[[Knock Out (Prime)#Revealer|Knock Out]]
*[[Vehicon (Prime)#Revealer|Vehicon]] (Second mold)
*[[Hot Shot (Prime)#Toys| Hot Shot]] (retool of RID Bumblebee)
{{comingsoontoy}}

'''Wave 4'''
{{comingsoontoy}}

'''Wave 5'''
*[[Rumble (WFC)#Prime|Rumble]] <ref>[http://www.toyzandgamez.com/transformers-prime-revealer-rumble-pre-order.html Preorder for Deluxe Rumble]</ref><ref name="CybertronCon12">[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/562581-more-hasbro-transformers-toy-reveals-cybertroncon-2012-a.html#post7413335 Pictures from Cybertron Con '12 on TFW2005, March, 2012</ref>
*[[Kup (WFC)#Prime|Sergeant Kup]] (Redeco of Ironhide)<ref name="CybertronCon12"/>
{{comingsoontoy}}

'''Future Waves'''
*[[Ironhide (Prime)#Revealer|Ironhide]] <ref>[http://www.toyzandgamez.com/transformers-prime-revealer-ironhide-pre-order.html Preorder for Deluxe Ironhide]</ref>
*[[Dead End (WFC)#Revealer|Dead End]]<ref>[http://www.toyzandgamez.com/transformers-prime-revealer-dead-end-pre-order.html Preorder for Deluxe Dead End]</ref>
*[[Airachnid#Revealer|Airachnid]] <ref>[http://www.toyzandgamez.com/transformers-prime-revealer-airrachnid-pre-order.html Preorder for Deluxe Airachnid]</ref>

===Voyager Class===
The Voyager class figures acquire a universal gimmick shared in the form of a spring-loaded [[MechTech]]-style transforming weapon partially constructed from translucent plastic, which also features an LED that moves into place and is activated when the weapon is deployed. The figures themselves also feature translucent plastic in various spots throughout their bodies, so that when the weapon is in place and deployed, the moving LED creates the idea of energon power "flowing" from the character's bodies into their weapons. Internally, these figures were referred to by Hasbro as "Powerizers" due to this gimmick, but the official name remains "Voyager Class".

'''Wave 1'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#Powerizer|Optimus Prime]] (Second mold)
*[[Megatron (Prime)#Powerizer|Megatron]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

'''Future waves:'''
*[[Skyquake (Prime)#Powerizer|Skyquake]]
*[[Starscream (Prime)#Powerizer|Starscream]]
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)#Powerizer|Bulkhead]] (Second mold) <ref>[http://www.toyzandgamez.com/transformers-prime-powerizers-bulkhead-pre-order.html Preorder for Voyager Bulkhead]</ref>
*[[Dreadwing (Prime)#Powerizer|Dreadwing]] <ref>[http://www.toyzandgamez.com/transformers-prime-powerizers-dreadwing-pre-order.html Preorder for Voyager Dreadwing]</ref>
{{comingsoontoy}}

===Weaponizers===
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#Weaponizer|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)#Weaponizer|Bumblebee]]<ref>[[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content/fmh-live-coverage-uk-toy-fair-2012-2737/ Live coverage of UK Toy Fair 2012]]</ref>
{{comingsoontoy}}

===Entertainment Pack===
*[[Starscream (Prime)#EntertainmentPack|Starscream]] vs. [[Bumblebee (Prime)#EntertainmentPack|Bumblebee]] (w/ [[Silas#Toys|Silas]] and [[MECH]] soldier)
{{comingsoontoy}}
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==Cyberverse==
===Legion===
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Arcee (Prime)#Cyberverse|Arcee]]
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)#Cyberverse|Bumblebee]]
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)#Cyberverse|Cliffjumper]]
*[[Ratchet (Prime)#Cyberverse|Autobot Ratchet]]
*[[Vehicon (Prime)#Cyberverse|Vehicon]]

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Breakdown (Prime)#Cyberverse|Breakdown]]
*[[Evac (Ride)#Cyberverse|Evac]]
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

===Commander===
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)#Cyberverse|Bulkhead]]
*[[Megatron (Prime)#Cyberverse|Megatron]]
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#Cyberverse|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Starscream (Prime)#Cyberverse|Starscream]]

'''Future waves'''
*[[Ironhide (Prime)#Cyberverse|Ironhide]]
*[[Dreadwing (Prime)#Cyberverse|Dreadwing]]
{{comingsoontoy}}

===Vehicle===
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Star Hammer]] with [[Wheeljack (Prime)#Cyberverse|Wheeljack]]
*[[Energon Driller]] with [[Knock Out (Prime)#Cyberverse|Knock Out]]
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===Base===
'''Wave 1'''
*Optimus Maximus<ref>[[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content/fmh-live-coverage-uk-toy-fair-2012-2737/ Live coverage of UK Toy Fair 2012]]</ref>
{{comingsoontoy}}

==Japanese Exclusives==

*[[Skywarp (Prime)|Skywarp]] (redeco of Deluxe Starscream)

===[[Arms Micron]]===
*[[Aimless (Prime)|Aimless]] - redeco of ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' [[Throttler]]
*[[Blowpipe (Prime)|Blowpipe]] - redeco of ''Power Core Combiners'' [[Groundspike]]
*[[Peaceman (Prime)|Peaceman]] - redeco of ''Power Core Combiners'' [[Chopster]]
*[[Firebolt (Prime)|Firebolt]]

'''Future waves:'''
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee Sword]]
*[[Gob]]
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime Blaster]]
*[[Zad]]

==Merchandise==
*'''Optimus Prime Stand-up Mover'''
*'''Bumblebee Stand-up Mover'''

===Roleplay===
* [[Bumblebee (Prime)#ionblaster|Bumblebee Ion Blaster]]

====Battle Masks====
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] Battle Mask
* [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] Battle Mask
{{comingsoontoy}}

====Energon Helmet====
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] Energon Helmet
{{comingsoontoy}}

==Footnotes==
{{Reflist}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:Prime (toyline)}}
[[Category: Prime| ]]
[[Category:Toylines]]

Kup (WFC)

2012-03-11T19:41:48Z

Karhukjnsi: The head is not new, look at the Cyberverse Ironhide, both that and Kup have that "fireman's" helmet sort of look.

{{faction|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Kup}}
:''Kup is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCDS Kup universal greeting.jpg|thumb|right|174px]]
'''Kup''' is an Autobot squad commander active during the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]]. [[Hot Shot (WFC)|Hot Shot]] doesn't like working with him for some reason.

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Ed O'Ross]] (English)
Before departing for a mission to get some data links working again, [[Autobot rookie|a newly trained Autobot]] had a brief exchange with Kup over a communications monitor that consisted of the elderly Autobot uttering the [[universal greeting]]. Once the youth got the links up and running, he contacted [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] who told him he was being reassigned to Kup's team. The recruit looked forward to the exciting times he'd experience being on Kup's team. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Toys==
===Prime===
*'''Sergeant Kup''' (Deluxe Class, 2012)
: Sergeant Kup is a redeco of [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]].<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-generations-classics-30-35/transformers-generations--movie-series-asia-exclusives-174569/]</ref>
{{comingsoontoy}}
==Notes==
*Kup's presence is limited to the Nintendo DS version of ''War for Cybertron''. He is referenced in dialogue, but appears only in an easter egg within the game. In the tutorial level, after speaking with [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] and [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]], walk over to the wall with three monitors on the right. Approach the middle monitor, and Kup appears for a chat.
*Whether the recruit survives to actually end up on Kup's squad depends on whether you're playing the Autobot or Decepticon variant of the game. The latter does not turn out well for him.
==Footnotes==
<references />

[[Category:Upcoming toy releases]]
[[Category:Prime Autobots]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Autobots]]

Vector Sigma

2012-03-04T19:40:10Z

Karhukjnsi: More specific wording concerning the TFP cartoon. The book and show may not line up entirely, but this wording leaves it open, since we do not know directly where the actual computer is under.

[[Image:VectorSigmaG1.jpg|right|400px|thumb|A Clockwork Orange]]

'''Vector Sigma''' is an ancient and incredibly powerful multiversal super computer which exists across many (conceivably all, though this is speculative) universes. Collectively these multiversal nodes are networked together as the "Vector Sigma Gestalt".<ref>[[Crossing Over: Part 6]]</ref>

Vector Sigma is generally shaped like a faceted orb. It frequently acts out the will of [[Primus]], and among its other abilities is the infusing of inanimate [[Transformer]] bodies with [[Spark|new life]]. Activating it requires a [[Key to Vector Sigma|special circuit key]], and possession of the key brings great power.

Hundreds of years in the future, some Vector Sigma nodes would be protected behind a shell program called the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]].

{{quote|I am Vector Sigma. Before Cybertron was, I was.|Vector Sigma upon activation|"[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1]]"}}

==Known multiversal nodes==
The [[Caretaker]], an independent computer designed by Vector Sigma to aid the Autobot [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]] was able to uplink to the larger multiversal Vector Sigma Gestalt. It gave a 10 digit numerical designation to each reality where Vector Sigma had a node. (The caretaker also speaks of a "central hub" that the [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] portion of the Marvel Comics continuity was too far away from for Caretaker to function properly.)

=== Continuities with Vector Sigma "nodes" ===
*141.207.6.661 - A [[Unicron Trilogy]] universe<ref>Specifically, the Unicron Trilogy universe [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], and possibly also [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]] and [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] are from. Whether this is the [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] comic Unicron Trilogy, the cartoon Unicron Trilogy, or a hybrid of the two is a [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|subject of debate]].</ref>
*585.354.3.116 - The ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]]'' universe, potentially also the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] universe<ref>The [[Caretaker]] notes that the Unicron Trilogy hub and this hub recently had "disruptions", which seems to indicate the [[Unicron Singularity]]'s effects on the Unicron Trilogy and ''Universe''. The Generation 1 cartoon universe is a universe very similar to this one, if they are not indeed the very same.</ref>
*216.333.8.616 - The (a?) [[Transtech]] universe
*[[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s ''Generation 1'' comic universe
*''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' cartoon universe
*A [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (fiction)|Shattered Glass]] universe, where the node is known as the [[Omega Terminus]]
*''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' cartoon universe
*The Compu-Core within the Robotix world of Skalorr.<ref>Gee, wonder where [[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|this]] originates.</ref>
*[[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s Generation 1 comic universe
*The ''[[Transformers: Exodus|Exodus]]'' universe

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Corey Burton]] (English), [[Toshio Ishii]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Ktvs prime and trion.jpg|left|thumb]]

Described as the "mega-computer" which gave all Transformers life, Vector Sigma resides in a spherical chamber deep within the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Its origins are unknown, save for the cryptic sentence it speaks upon being activated, whereupon it pronounces that before Cybertron existed, it did.

In 1985, seeking to combat the [[Autobot|Autobots]]' rule of the roads, Megatron created the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] and brought them to Cybertron with the intent of having Vector Sigma program them with true cybernetic personalities. Requiring Vector Sigma's [[Key to Vector Sigma|activation key]] to bring the computer online, he stole it from [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] and successfully completed his plan. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} In retaliation, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] constructed his own new team, the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], but Megatron had already returned to Earth with the key still in his clutches, leaving the Autobots unable to reactivate Vector Sigma. As a first-generation product of Vector Sigma, Alpha Trion shared the mega-computer's computation matrix, and sacrificed himself by merging his lifeforce with it. This action reactivated the computer long enough for Optimus Prime to instruct it to program the Aerialbots with life.

Shortly thereafter, it was revealed that the key possessed another power—the bizarre ability to generate an energy beam that "de-energizes" organic matter, transforming it into lifeless metal. Megatron attempted to use this power to turn Earth into a new Cybertron, but his plans were thwarted and the key destroyed. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

After draining the energies of the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to cure the [[Hate Plague]] in 2006, Optimus Prime began to suffer premonitions of some unseen future disaster. Believing that these visions were coming to pass with the Decepticons' theft of the [[Key to the Plasma Energy Chamber|key]] to the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}}, Prime used the empty shell of the Matrix to reactivate Vector Sigma, so that he could communicate with the spirit of Alpha Trion, still living within the computer, in hopes that the old sage could provide answers. Alpha Trion indicated that the recent conflict that had erupted around the Chamber had, in fact, been engineered by Vector Sigma as a means of bringing about a new Golden Age of Cybertron. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 2}} The plan ultimately succeeded when the chamber's energies were released, forcing Earth's sun to go supernova, only for the excess solar energy to be rerouted into Vector Sigma by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] and the Autobots' [[Nebulan]] allies, thereby re-energizing the planet. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3|The Rebirth, Part 3}}

====Japanese cartoon continuity====

{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in Japanese continuity as detailed above, save for the fact that the events of 2006 take place in 2010, and "The Rebirth" does not occur. The nature and origins of Vector Sigma were heavily revised in a major [[retcon]] in 2007, when events of the ''[[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' [[Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|radio drama]], along with a [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)|timeline]] published in the ''[[Kiss Players/15 Go! Go! Compilation]]'', merged the computer with several other concepts from across ''Transformers'' fiction, including [[Oracle (G1)|Primacron's assistant]] (also known as the Oracle) and [[Primus]]. As a consequence, it is now a ''very'' different entity than in the English version of the same episodes—or any other continuity for that matter. Japanese continuity also incorporates the events of the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'' cartoon, which are not strictly part of English cartoon continuity, and as such, are listed under a separate header in this article.}}

=====''Kiss Players''=====
[[Image:Oracle COTP thumb.gif|right|thumb|All hail the shiny sparkly cotton candy mass.]]
Vector Sigma began life as "the [[Oracle (G1)|Oracle]]", an ape-like [[Primitive]] robot created by the ancient genius, [[Primacron (G1)|Primacron]]. The Oracle possessed the power to bring robotic beings to life, and hence played an important role in Primacron's experiments. Those experiments, however, eventually resulted in the creation of [[Unicron]], who turned on his creator and destroyed the Oracle's body in the course of his attack. The Oracle's essence persevered, however, and, encased within a protective shell, fled to a dead planet at the center of the universe, which he proceeded to transform into a verdant, living world. However, he could sense that in the future, Primacron would go on to create another universal danger in the form of [[Tornedron]], and so summoned the Primitive Transformers of the future back through time to his planet, where he instructed them in how to destroy the threat. {{storylink|Call of the Primitives}}

{{note|This time travel was inserted by the previously mentioned retcon and is not alluded to at all in the episode itself. It would seem to exist purely to prevent the Oracle's role in the episode from conflicting with everything else the retcon sets out to do.}}

[[Image:TGGPrimus2.jpg|left|150px|thumb|]]

At some undefined point later in his life, the Oracle reached into the future again when he became aware of a plot by Unicron's servants, the [[Sparkbot]]s to resurrect their evil master following his destruction in the year 2005. The Sparkbots had duped the humans [[Marissa Faireborn]], [[Shaoshao Li]] and [[Atari Hitotonari]] into helping them gather Unicron's splintered [[Angolmois|lifeforce]] from throughout space and time, telling them that the fragments they were gathering were actually parts of the "[[Allspark (disambiguation)|Allspark]]". {{storylink|Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|Kiss Players radio drama #40}} After the girls had gathered up several fragments of Unicron's lifeforce, the Oracle decided to take an active hand, and began stealing away the fragments before the girls could claim them. {{storylink|Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|Kiss Players radio drama #45}} Unaware of the true nature of the situation, the girls gave chase through time aboard [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus]], but they wound up crashing into the "[[Wall of Time]]" and were hurled into the parallel universe of the "[[Unicron Trilogy]]". {{storylink|Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|Kiss Players radio drama #47}} The Oracle personally rescued the girls from each of the different time periods they had wound up in {{storylink|Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|Kiss Players radio dramas #48-50}} and brought them back to their home universe to explain what was really going on, appearing in the form of a giant golden robot and introducing himself to them as "Primus". The team proceeded to pursue the Sparkbots back to prehistoric [[Earth]], where Primus prevented the resurrection of Unicron, sealed his lifeforce within the planet and created Brave Maximus to serve as a guardian. When the girls asked Primus what their future would be, he did not deign to reply, and returned them to their proper place in time before returning to his world and settling down to rest... by transforming into the familiar golden spherical form of Vector Sigma. {{storylink|Transformers: Kiss Players (radio drama)|Kiss Players radio drama #50}}

As Primus slept, the [[Quintesson]]s discovered his planet and invaded it, subjugating Primus and obtaining the shell that had held his essence, which went on to become the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Using Primus's shackled powers, the Quintessons transformed his planet into the metallic Cybertron, and began creating their own race of robotic slaves, which eventually became the Transformers. {{storylink|Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)}}
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=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
[[Image:VectorSigmaHM.jpg|left|thumb|The exterior of the Vector Sigma chamber, as seen in ''The Headmasters''.]]
One year after Optimus Prime drained the energies of the Matrix to cure the [[Hate Plague]], in 2011, the loss of the Matrix's energy caused Vector Sigma to destabilize, threatening Cybertron with destruction. The Decepticons—their forces bolstered with the recent addition of [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] warriors from the planet [[Master (planet)|Master]]—sought to take advantage of the chaos that ensued, seeking to gain control of the unstable computer, thereby bringing Cybertron under their dominion again. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}}

[[Image:VectorSigmaHM2.jpg|right|thumb|Vector Sigma itself in Headmasters, sporting a slightly different look than in the original series.]]

Determined to save the planet at any cost, Optimus Prime fought his way through the tunnels leading to Vector Sigma's chamber, led by the ghost of Alpha Trion, while [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and a group of Autobot Headmasters began searching for the Matrix, which had been left on Earth to recharge itself using the planet's natural energy. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} Although they were successful in their mission, and the Matrix was even recharged by Alpha Trion, they were not fast enough to re-stabilize Vector Sigma with it, forcing Optimus Prime to sacrifice his life (again) by merging with the computer and restoring it to normal. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}

Not long thereafter, Vector Sigma began a series of experiments to create a new super-alloy. [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundblaster]] and his cassettes were able to penetrate Vector Sigma's chamber and learn of the experiments, which in turn prompted Galvatron to launch an all-out attack on Cybertron to secure the new alloy, [[Cybertonuron]], for himself. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} However, Galvatron's ally, Headmaster leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], was not enthused at the idea of Galvatron acquiring such a powerful weapon, and determined to keep the metal out both his hands and those of the Autobots through means most drastic—the total destruction of Cybertron itself. Powerful bombs were planted in Vector Sigma's chamber, and although the Autobots learned of the plot, they were unable to stop it, and Cybertron was reduced to a burnt-out husk. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}}

=====''Beast Wars Returns'' cartoon=====
:''See [[Vector Sigma#Beast Machines cartoon|Beast Machines cartoon]], below.''

=====''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoon=====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Chie Hirano]] (Japanese)
[[Image:Neo-VectorSigma.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Vector Sigma's Blue Period.]]

Hundreds of thousands of years into the future, long after Cybertron had been restored following its decimation in [[Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2 |2011]], Vector Sigma appeared to be in charge of the planet, handing down orders via the [[Convoy Council]]. It was under Vector Sigma's orders that [[Big Convoy]] was removed from solo warrior duty and placed in charge of a group of unruly Maximal new recruits. By means of Big Convoy's [[Energon Matrix]], Vector Sigman would occasionally possess Big Convoy for a brief instant in order to give words of wisdom and encouragement to the Maximal new recruits. {{storylink|Big Convoy, Move Out}} Big Convoy, initially very distant and anti-social, gradually became more compassionate as Vector Sigma's actions began to rub off on him.

After being resurrected by the [[Blendtron]]s, [[Unicron]] traveled to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] with the intention of transforming it into his new body. He briefly achieved this goal by possessing Vector Sigma and overriding it. His scheme would have worked, however, he allowed himself to be lured out of Vector Sigma by Big Convoy, the Maximal recruits, [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Magmatron]]. Unicron underestimated their power and was destroyed. Now free, Vector Sigma oversaw the reconstruction of Cybertron by the united forces of the Maximals and the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]].

===Beast Era===
====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Carol Savenkoff]] (English), [[Nobutoshi Canna]] (Japanese), [[Emanuela Damasio]] (Italian), [[Martina Treger]] (German)

[[Image:Oracle (The Reformatting).jpg|right|thumb|225px|The Oracle usually appears outwardly like a ball of "outer space", but many things can be displayed on its fluid surface. A swirling mass of sparks is another common visual.]]

Three hundred years after the end of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] between the Autobots and Decepticons, Vector Sigma had faded into legend until it was rediscovered by [[Optimus Primal]] and his small band of [[Maximal]]s while they were on the run from [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], who had conquered the entire planet. By this point in time, however, Vector Sigma had become outfitted with an additional layer of "security" that helped to mediate access to its power: the "[[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]]", a "shell program" of sorts that would only allow Transformers with a "receptive [[spark]]" to access Vector Sigma. To protect Primal's Maximals from the effects of the [[transformation virus]] Megatron had used to conquer Cybertron, the Oracle reformatted them into new [[technorganic]] forms {{storylink|The Reformatting}}

[[Image:Vector sigma core.jpg|left|225px|thumb|A Diagnostic Drone interfaces with the Vector Sigma core, which appears very similar to the Generation 1 Vector Sigma.]]

Through the Oracle and Vector Sigma, Optimus Primal came to commune with the [[Allspark]], the extradimensional source of all Transformer life to which the computer was revealed to be connected, and believed that it was the will of the Allspark that Cybertron be restored to its organic beginnings. {{storylink|Survivor}} In truth, Primal was incorrect—the Oracle actually desired a ''balance'' between the organic and the technological—but it would take the disastrous unleashing of Vector Sigma's power to make him realize this. When Megatron's treacherous general, [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], discovered that Vector Sigma lay at the heart of the Oracle, he used the sparkless [[Diagnostic Drone]] to access Vector Sigma and withdraw the code for the mega-computer's key. {{storylink|The Key}} Arming the [[Tank Drone]]s at his command with the power of the Key to Vector Sigma, Tankor had Megatron unleash the key's energies upon Cybertron, in order to purge any trace of organic matter from the world by converting it into metal. Optimus Primal countered by unleashing the power of the Plasma Energy Chamber, and two enegies violently cancelled eachother out. {{storylink|End of the Line}} Primal was killed by the energy backlash and travelled to the Allspark, but chose not to join it, now understanding what the Oracle truly desired. Primal returned to reality via the Oracle, and the computer—Vector Sigma core and all—vanished. {{storylink|Fallout}}

====3H comics====
The Oracle was revealed to have been a shell program constructed by the [[Quintesson]]s in an attempt to harness the power of Vector Sigma (which the Quintesson [[Al-Badur]] described as "the ultimate physical embodiment" of Primus) and cut off its connection to the Transformers it birthed. Using the Oracle, the Quintessons allegedly fed Optimus Primal the visions and information necessary to orchestrate the technorganic reformatting of Cybertron, believing that it would leave the Cybertronians weak and disoriented, opening the planet up to an easy conquest. {{storylink|Disclosure}} In actuality, however, it was the Quintessons themselves who were being manipulated, by Primus, who used the greedy aliens to instigate this great evolutionary leap for his children. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
Vector Sigma was the internal computer of Primus, which he used to analyze what was happening in the universe via information gained from the [[Sonic Canyons]]. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}} After taking control of Cybertron, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] attempted to access Vector Sigma and download its information, but concluded that he needed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to initiate an uplink. Capturing Optimus Prime, he forcibly removed the Matrix from the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]] and initiated a complete download. {{storylink|War and Peace}} However, the information was so great that it overwhelmed Shockwave's multiple secondary computers, spilling into whatever available memory it could find, including the as yet-to-be activated [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|Generation One}}

===''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===
[[Image:ForcedFusion RID vectorsigma.jpg|right|thumb]]
[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] was chosen by Vector Sigma (also known as "the Allspark") to carry the [[Matrix of Leadership]] and lead the Autobots. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus: Forced Fusion!}}
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===''Animated''===
Although never actually seen, Vector Sigma's existence was noted by [[Yoketron (Animated)|Yoketron]]. Like the more-famous [[AllSpark]], it possessed the ability to create Transformer life, and was used to continue the growth of the Cybertronian race after the AllSpark was jettisoned into space to end the [[Great War (Animated)|Great War]]. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The Allspark Almanac II}}

===Live-action film series continuity===
[[Image:VectorSigma-DOTM.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Yep, this is very live-action film-y looking, yessirree.]]
The great historian [[Alpha Trion (ROTF)|Alpha Trion]] preserved important datatracks from Vector Sigma, the "Cybertronian Database". Some of these datatracks told of a handful of battles on the planet [[Earth]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Cyber Missions|Cyber Missions}} Vector Sigma also, more appropriately, held records of the Transformer race's long history, its artifacts and terminology, and its most important combatants. <ref>Transformers.com's ''Dark of the Moon'' website</ref>
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===Aligned continuity===
====''Exodus''====
Vector Sigma had become a myth. Many believed it was located within the [[Sonic Canyons]], although a few of Cybertron's elite knew it was located beneath [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. When the [[Decepticon]]s bombed the Sonic Canyons, they bombed the area where an entrance to Vector Sigma was said to be located, causing outrage among Cybertronians. When the Autobots left Cybertron on the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'', [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] opted to remain behind, believing the computer would keep him alive. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

===='''Prime''' cartoon====
{{spoiler|Orion Pax, Part 3|March 10, 2012}}
The entrance to Vector Sigma was, unbeknownst to the [[Decepticon]]s, located beneath their capital of [[Kaon]]. It remained there untouched throughout the [[Great War (Prime)|Great War]] until [[Jack Darby]] and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] followed the [[Key to Vector Sigma]]' to it. In the chamber below the planet's surface, Jack used the Key to activate the supercomputer and began to download the contents of the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Despite an attack of [[scraplet]]s, the download was successful, and Vector Sigma disappeared back into the depths. {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 3}}

===IDW Generation 1 comics===
[[Image:ChaosGalvatronVectorSigma.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"I did it thirty-five minutes ago."]]

According to [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], Vector Sigma was "essentially erased" when Cybertron was rendered a dead and uninhabitable world by [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]. {{storylink|Ironing Out the Details}} It was at the very core of Cybertron. The psychotic [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], being manipulated by the [[D-Void]] through the [[Darkness (G1)|Heart of Darkness]], believed that destroying Cybertron would save the universe when, in fact, it would merge it with the [[Dead Universe]], killing all forms of life. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] attempted to stop him, but were too late to prevent him from feeding the Heart of Darkness into Vector Sigma. While [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]], [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] fought with Galvatron, Rodimus convinced an initially reluctant Optimus that the only way to save Cybertron and the universe was to release the [[Matrix of Leadership]] inside Vector Sigma. Agreeing, Prime leapt into Vector Sigma, opening the Matrix and preventing the assault of the Dead Universe on Cybertron and the rest of the universe. {{storylink|Chaos Part Four: Genesis}}
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==Merchandise==
[[Image:VectorSigmaBotcon07b.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Long have you hunted me. Long have I eluded you.]]
* A hollow plastic Vector Sigma, packaged with a removable Circuit Key and a clear "hovering effect" display stand, was a special souvenir item offered [[Exclusive|exclusively]] at [[BotCon 2007]].
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==Notes==
* According to episode writer [[David Wise]] at various conventions (such as [[BotCon 2009]]), he was instructed to include Vector Sigma when writing "[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1|The Key to Vector Sigma]]" as part of the [[Hasbro]] episode mandates. Not knowing what Vector Sigma was, he pressed story editor [[Bryce Malek]], who in turn had to go to Hasbro to learn that Vector Sigma was "the computer that gave all the Transformers personalities". This caused Malek to respond: "Well, it didn't do a very good job, did it!" Of course, this does raise the question of ''where'' the Vector Sigma concept originated, as nothing like it was ever used by [[Bob Budiansky]] in the Marvel comics or toyline [[bio]]s.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Vector Sigma''' (ベクターシグマ ''Bekutā Shiguma'')

==References==
<references />

==See also==
*[[Primus]]
*[[Allspark]]

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/2007/VectorSigma/VectorSigma/vectorsigma.htm Vector Sigma on TFU.info]

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Orion Pax, Part 3

2012-03-04T19:37:29Z

Karhukjnsi: More specifically, it was the "entrance" to Vector Sigma.

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'''Jack and Arcee undertake a dangerous mission on Cybertron to access Vector Sigma, while Orion begins to rebel against Megatron.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Jack Darby|Jack]] and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] walk through [[Kaon]], guided by the light of the [[Key to Vector Sigma]]. They come upon a circular clearing, and the key glows intensely, indicating that they must be close. Suddenly, the ground begins to shake, and cracks appear in the surface. The duo watch in awe as a passageway rises from the ground, its door illuminated the same as the Key. It opens, but just as the two are about to enter, an enormous creature rears up from atop the passage. Arcee's [[Autobot]] symbol catches its eye, and it charges her, Arcee's minute strength doing nothing to injure it. She is quickly incapacitated, and the creature notices Jack, giving temporary pursuit until distracted by Arcee. Jack radios [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] and is told that the creature is an [[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]], one of many sentries left to guard the dead [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Arcee tells Jack to go, to his surprise, but he realizes the necessity. As he enters, the door closes behind him.

On the ''[[Nemesis (Prime)|Nemesis]]'', [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] inquires as to [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion]]'s progress on [[Project Iacon]]. Orion says it's tough work, but Megatron says otherwise, revealing to him that all of his unsanctioned research has been recorded. Orion takes the opportunity to ask about his reported affiliation with the Autobots, but Megatron merely tells him to get back to work. Orion decides that enough is enough, and erases his progress in the archives. Megatron laughs, and shows the clerk that he has been recorded and documented in his pursuits. [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] intrudes, to show Megatron that one of their sentries came online on Cybertron. Orion asks how anything is alive on the planet, but Megatron tells him to continue his work-or be terminated.

Back on Cybertron, Arcee tangles with the enormous bug, but is no match for its brute strength. Finished with her, the Insecticon turns its attention to the fleshling, and breaks its way into the tunnel.

In the depths of the tunnel, Jack hears a [[Scraplet|familiar noise]], and uproots a metal bar for protection.

Back on the ''Nemesis'', Megatron reviews the reports with Soundwave. He learns of the [[space bridge]]'s activation, its endpoint, and the fact that it is still active. He quickly deduces the Autobots' plan.

In Cybertron's gullet, Jack arrives at the chamber of [[Vector Sigma]]. He proceeds to the center of a circular platform, where he places the Key. The entire chamber begins to transform and glow with the Key's energy, and the enormous supercomputer reveals itself, and begins to transfer its energy to the Key.

On the ''Nemesis'', Orion is hassled by the guards. He appeals to their "good nature", saying that he believes Megatron will use the information he is agglomerating for nefarious purposes. Good-old fashioned police brutality ensues as the helpless clerk is kicked and punched by his guards.

In the chamber, Jack is antsy about the speed of his download. His problems lie beyond his dial-up, however, because behind him, a horde of Scraplets has just taken notice of the ''very'' alive metal before him in the form of the Key to Vector Sigma. Jack is helpless to fend them off, and they begin to snack on the download port. He reports frantically on his position to ground control

In the space bridge chamber, however, the Autobots have bigger fish to fry as Megatron steps out of a [[GroundBridge]] to them. Ratchet vows to protect their charges, and the battle begins, Megatron easily flooring every Autobot, Ratchet and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] twice.

On Cybertron, Arcee awakes to find a Scraplet chewing on her foot. She blasts it off, and notices the opened passage—and the absent Insecticon. Transforming, she speeds into the passageway.

Jack valiantly smashes the Scraplets as they feed, but is unable to stop their progress towards the Matrix. Another problem presents itself behind him in the form of the Insecticon. It charges towards him, but stops in its tracks, staring at the key. Jack realizes why, and the Scraplets suddenly become a blessing. He formulates an idea, pulling a Scraplet off the Key and pointing it at the aggressor. The Insecticon turns tail as it realizes what's happening, but the Scraplets give chase and latch on, quickly chewing through the giant insect as it falls to its doom, limbs disconnected. The download completes, and Jack retrieves the key. Arcee finally arrives, and the two depart.

The [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]] guards continue to beat down Orion, and one of them lets slip that it's a privilege to beat the former leader of the Autobots. Orion pleads with them to stop, and in his defense, he accidentally transforms his arms into blasters. Realizing they're in trouble, the guards fire on Pax, but he quickly dispatches them both.

Arcee and Jack arrive at the space bridge portal, and radio Ratchet about their position. Total silence on the comm tip them off that something is wrong, and, undetected on the other end of the portal, Megatron waits to end the lineage of the Primes. However, he is surprised by the sudden arrival of Orion Pax, who vows that, no matter what his heritage might be, his spark is aligned with the Autobots. He deploys his blades, and charges for Megatron, but is quickly defeated. Megatron says that he has much to learn, and prepares to kill him, but Arcee speeds through the bridge and collides with him, sending them both flying. In the light of the bridge, Jack presents the Key to Orion, who hesitates, but accepts his destiny.

The Key begins to upload the Matrix to its host. Megatron, preoccupied with fighting Arcee, notices this, and desperately runs at him. However, Orion Pax—now ''Optimus Prime''—isn't ready to go down again, and trounces his enemy. A GroundBridge portal opens up, and the Autobots retreat.

At base, the Autobots and humans rejoice at their reunion. Noticing his Decepticon symbol, Optimus asks Ratchet what had happened. He replies that it was their darkest hour, but at every point along the way, Optimus was truly an Autobot at spark.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (2)
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (8)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (15)
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (16)
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (17)

|c2=
*[[Insecticon (Prime)|Insecticon]] (3)
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (9)
*"[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]]" (10)
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (11)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] (14)

|c3=
*[[Jack Darby]] (1)
*[[June Darby]] (4)
*[[Miko Nakadai]] (5)
*[[Raf Esquivel]] (6)
*[[William Fowler]] (7)

|c4=
*[[Scraplet]]s (12)
*[[Vector Sigma]] (13)

}}

==Quotes==
"This is...Wow."
:—History only remembers the good ones, '''Jack'''.

"Why did it have to be Scraplets?"
:—'''Bulkhead''' channels Harrison Ford.

"Hey guys—the main course!"
:—'''Jack''' directs the Scraplets to their other menu choices.

"Megatron—''be gone!''"
:—'''Optimus Prime''', before delivering the most awesome series of punches in the entire series.

==Notes==
===Animation and technical errors===

===Continuity errors===
*Who GroundBridged Optimus to Megatron?

===Continuity notes===
*The scraplets seem a ''lot'' nastier in this episode, chewing so fast as to render a hulking robot limbless in a matter of seconds. This is ''not'' an error, as many factors could contribute, such as the scraplets' inability to find living metal on the barren Cybertron and the ancient state of the Insecticon.
*Optimus still has the broken sword from waaaaay back in "[[One Shall Fall]]". It would seem that the Decepticons neglected to repair it. Or rather, neglected to mention that he had weapons in the first place.
*Fowler seems to be rather... attached to June as of late. Either [[Transformers Comic issue 4.3|the comics]] messed up, or somebody needs to give her husband some love.

===Transformers references===
* Ratchet references ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' by referring to an event as "our darkest hour", as he did before in "[[Darkness Rising, Part 5]]".
* Bulkhead calls Megatron a "bucket head", a reference to [[Megatron (G1)|the original Megatron]].
* The Insecticon's insect mode resembles a large rhinoceros beetle, [[Bombshell (G1)|like]] [[Salvo|several]] [[Barrage (Insecticon)|other]] [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticons]].
*Seen through the Scraplets' point-of-view, the sphere of Vector Sigma is seen in its faceted orb appearance common to many continuities.

===Real-world references===
*Bulkhead's line bemoaning the Scraplets on Cybertron is a paraphrase of the oft-referenced "Why did it have to be snakes?" line from ''Raiders of the Lost Ark''.

===Trivia===
*Look closely at the arena circle in Kaon: it's the same arena as seen in "One Shall Rise, Part 3". Ironic that the entrance to Vector Sigma lay beneath Megatron's feet at that moment.

[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Talk:Vector Sigma

2012-03-02T01:29:14Z

Karhukjnsi:

This is '''entirely''' speculation:

Vector Sigma MAY have originally been one of the other Thirteen original Transformers constructed by Primus before he became the planet Cybertron.

First, we have the quote "I am Vector Sigma. Before Cybertron was, I was". This would allow both Primus and Vector Sigma to exist in the same timeline.

Secondly, we have the similarity in names between Vector Prime and Vector Sigma. At this stage, the only other of the Thirteen we know of is "The Fallen", who's original name is lost to (or rather, was removed from) the ages.

Potentially, Vector Sigma's alt mode could have been that of a computer system, and the ability (as well as the need, or desire) to transform lost over time.

As I said, speculation bordering on manic fanfiction, which is why it's here on the discussion page, rather than in the article. Comments? Proof against?

*IIRC Vecter Sigma looked the same in Headmasters, the pic you have is just it's chamber as viewed from the outside. Perhaps we can add something about the Oricle being a quint creation X-BoB58

X-BoB is right about that first picture just being the outer chamber. I've added a picture of the computer itself. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 06:56, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
:What about in Transformers Cybertron, Primus wasn't able to talk all that well with lesser beings. However, Vector Sigma can. He most likely created Vector Sigma as a go between with his creations. When Primus turned into Cybertron, he stopped communicating with Vector Sigma so it just went right along like nothing happened, blissfully communicating with the lesser beings. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 16:09, 19 September 2010 (EDT)

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In Robots in Disguise, Optimus Prime mentions that Vector Sigma chose him to carry the Matrix. Should we mention that here, or should there be a separate Vector Sigma (RiD) entry? Everything else on this page is cumulative across several shows in one single continuity, so it would be out of place in that regard... but the throw-away line in RiD isn't exactly an article-filling piece of information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:29, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Probably just add a note to the end of the current article then, as it is currently - if something turns up that nesecitates a longer RID specific article, it can always be moved later. - TTK

In Nippon, Hightower once served as a guard for vector Sigma- but I dont' think, with the way CR fot filtered into RiD, that's th sort of thing you'd mention here, even though the Build team came over relatively intact- it'd goon Hightower's individual page as a note about a bit of character history from is JP version. -D-rok

==I AM ALSO KNOW AS THE ORACLE==
[[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 03:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Does this mean that Cybertron itself is a featured article? --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 17:11, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

== Soooo... Japanese Stuff then... ==

It wasn't too hard to work the basics of the new JTF timeline stuff into the [[Oracle (G1)]] article since it was brief, but this one seems a little trickier to me since Vector Sigma has a lot more other appearences to work around. Anyone have a good idea on how to get the JTF stff in here smoothly? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:It probably needs a ground-up rewrite to accommodate what was done in the Fun Pub comics. That having been done... I think VS/the Oracle still forms a 'straight line' of continuity, most of this can probably be folded back into the new article -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==Oracle==
The more I write articles, the more I think the Oracle and Vector Sigma should be separate articles. The Oracle is a separate program wrapped around Vector Sigma, whether you buy the whole Quints-made-it stuff or not. I think the Oracle merits its own article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:50, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
:I do agree, but I haven't watched ''Beast Machines'' since it originally aired, so I can't really get around to writing the article [[User:Interrobang|—‽]] 22:57, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Vector Sigma in Aligned ==

So... is the Core of Cybertron the same as Vector Sigma? Exiles seems to imply that VS is another name for the core. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 22:29, 6 November 2011 (EST)
:I think we should wait till we see what the dealio is with the Key to Vector Sigma in the cartoon. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:45, 6 November 2011 (EST)
::Well, now we know they're different. Interestingly though, while Exodus says it's under Iacon, in TFP, the Key leads Jack and Arcee to Kaon. The sections of Exodus and TFP should be merged under an "Aligned" section, but now I ask, before or after the IDW G1 section?

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2012 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2012-02-27T03:02:52Z

Karhukjnsi: Votes

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' vote for a specific version of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, Dinobot, Ironhide, Ratchet, Soundwave, or Waspinator. They've already been inducted!
##You '''also''' can't vote for '''Grimlock, Jazz or Shockwave'''. They're being automatically inducted this year!
#'''However, you CAN vote for ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] or [[Optimus Primal]]! Hasbro considers them separate!'''
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe, Terrorsaur (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends at 3pm on '''[[March 1]], 2012'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:25, 23 February 2012 (EST)

==Poll entries==


*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Blaster, Perceptor, Rumble --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:32, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Barricade, Devastator, Laserbeak, Ravage, Sideways --[[User:LV|LV]] 12:34, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bluestreak, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Ravage, Wheeljack --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 12:41, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Hot Rod, Ratbat, Ravage, Skywarp--[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 12:44, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Barricade, Bulkhead, Rattrap, Sideways, Sky-Byte [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:58, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blaster, Hot Rod, Perceptor, Scorponok, Wheeljack {{unsigned|84.13.39.130}}
*Demolishor, Megatron (BW), Scorponok, Sideways, Sky-Byte. [[User:Rayqui|Rayqui]] 13:14, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Cyclonus, Hot Rod, Jetfire, Kup, Rhinox - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 13:21, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Kup, Prowl (G1), Scorponok (G1), Sunstreaker, Swindle --[[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 13:32, 23 February 2012 (EST)
* Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Hot Rod, Megatron (BW), Swindle --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:41, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage, Unicron --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:47, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rampage (BW), Sky-Byte [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:54, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Megatron (BW), Minerva (Masterforce), Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rhinox {{unsigned|50.10.61.121}}
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Laserbeak, Prowl, Sky-Byte --[[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 14:07, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blades, Hot Rod, Kup, Megatron (BW), Smokescreen --[[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 14:11, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bruticus, Fortress Maximus, Omega Supreme, Skywarp, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 14:19, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Rhinox, Sky-Byte --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:22, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Cliffjumper, Cyclonus, Prowl, Ultra Magnus, Wheeljack --[[User:AutoUIMagnus299|AutoUIMagnus299]] 14:37, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Hot Rod, Jetfire, Omega Supreme, Prowl --[[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:57, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Depth Charge, Quickstrike, Rattrap, Rhinox, Wreck-Gar --[[User:Femmes Rule!|Femmes Rule!]] 15:01, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Prowl, Rodimus Prime, Scorponok, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Magaroja|Magaroja]] 15:19, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Hot Spot, Quickmix, Searchlight, Silverbolt, Steeljaw --[[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] 15:35, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Astrotrain, Bruticus, Rumble, Skywarp, Thundercracker --[[User:crown of starscream|crown of starscream]] 16:02, 23 Febuary 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Ravage, Sky-Byte --[[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 15:36, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Paddles, Piano Transformer Guy, Scrounge, Silverbolt (BW)--[[Special:Contributions/184.56.30.163|184.56.30.163]] 15:40, 23 February 2012 (EST))
*Metroplex, Mudflap (movie), Predaking, Sunstorm (G1), Trypticon {{unsigned|94.7.56.6}}
*Blitzwing (Animated), Ironfist, Straxus, Ultra Magnus, Wreck-Gar --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 16:02, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Jetstorm (BM), Lugnut (Animated), Megatron (BW/BM), Optimus Primal, Roadbuster.--[[Special:Contributions/96.237.141.219|96.237.141.219]] 16:31, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Cliffjumper, Fortress Maximus, Optimus Primal, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 16:36, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Cliffjumper, Jetfire, Prowl [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 16:37, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Laserbeak (DOTM), Megatron (BW), Ravage, Unicron. [[Special:Contributions/95.151.0.33|95.151.0.33]] 17:04, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Fortress Maximus, Ginrai, Prowl, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] 17:06, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Impactor, Ironfist, Overlord, Straxus, Tarantulas --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:25, 23 February 2012 (EST)
* Bulkhead, Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Sunstorm --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:34, 23 February 2012 (EST)
* Blurr, Rattrap, Tarantulas, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Russellestate|Russellestate]] 19:02, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Inferno (BW), Rampage (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle --[[Special:Contributions/72.187.230.66|72.187.230.66]] 19:08, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Megatron (BW), Nightbeat, Sentinel Prime (Animated), Sky-Byte, Thunderwing--[[Special:Contributions/74.110.211.53|74.110.211.53]] 19:24, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Laserbeak(G1), Optimus Primal, Predaking, Primus, Ultra Magnus (G1).If combiners count.If not then Warpath--[[User:Gamemaster|Gamemaster]] 7:53, 23 February 2012
*Rampage (BW), Rattrap, Scorponok (BW), Tarantualas (BW), Terrorsaur (BW) [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 19:57, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Cheetor (Beast Era), Ginrai, Megatron (Beast Era), Optimus Primal, Thunderwing --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 20:03, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bluestreak, Chromia, First Aid, Prowl, Ravage--[[User:al_cielo|al_cielo]] 20:02, 23 February 2012
*Jetfire, Landmine, Sky lynx, Smokescreen, Swoop--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 20:08, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Botanica (both BW and Animated), Firestar, Moonracer, Perceptor (Animated), Slipstream (Animated). If Botanica doesn't count, put Chromia in her place. --[[User:Firestar_of_Kalis|Firestar_of_Kalis]] 15:22, 23 February 2012 (HST)
*[[Blackarachnia]], [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]], [[Sentinel Prime (DOTM)|Sentinel Prime]] -- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 20:42, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Wheeljack. ----[[Special:Contributions/71.17.207.182|71.17.207.182]] 20:59, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Skybyte --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:59, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*[[Barricade]], [[Bulkhead]], [[Hot Rod]], [[Megatron (BW)]], [[Rattrap]] -- [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 02:34, 25 February 2012 (EST)
* Arcee, Bulkhead, Optimus Primal, Ironhide, Sky-byte --(Dinobotairfeather)
*Jetfire, Megatron(BW), Rampage(BW), Sari Sumdac(She counts), Sentinel Prime [[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 21:52, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead (Prime), Prowl (G1), Thundercracker (G1 and Cybertron), Ultra Magnus (RID), Wheeljack (G1) --[[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 22:19, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Cyclonus (G1), Galvatron (G1), Rampage (BW), Silverbolt (BW), Sky-Byte --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:34, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*[[Arcee]], [[Blackarachnia]], [[Firestar]], [[Moonracer]], [[Sunstreaker]] --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 22:35, 23 February 2012 (EST)
* Bombshell (G1), Cyclonus (G1), Demolishor (Armada), Scourge (RID), Swerve (G1) --[[User:Thunderweb|Thunderweb]] 23:17, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Brawn (G1), Megatron (BW), Ravage (SG), Sunstorm (G1), Ultra Magnus (G1) {{unsigned|74.37.238.167}}
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]], [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] --[[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 00:47, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Barricade, BlackArachnia, Thunderwing, Wheeljack, Wreck-Gar[[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 01:11, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Lugnut, Rotorstorm, Sixshot, Swindle, Wheeljack --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 01:36, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Prowl, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus, Wheeljack {{unsigned|N2977R}}
*Bludgeon (G1), Megatron (Beast Wars), Scorponok (G1), Thunderwing (G1), Unicron -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 04:19, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Kup, Rattrap, Wreck-Gar --[[User:Cr85747|Cr85747]] 4:47, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Omega Supreme, Overlord, Ratbat, Sideways, Sky-Byte - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:25, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Blades, Cliffjumper, Hot Shot, Rampage(BW), Thundercracker [[User:Wasp-shot23|Wasp-shot23]] 06:53, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Astrotrain (G1), Blitzwing (G1), Bombshell, Laserbeak (G1), Rumble (G1) --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 09:26, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Cosmos, Ironfist, Repugnus, Swerve, Tailgate -- JediFlaherty 11:50, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Cheetor, Devastator, Ravage, Sky-Byte -- [[User:Rav|Rav]] 14:51, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Laserbeak, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 16:25, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bonecrusher, Devastator, Leadfoot, Roadbuster, Sky-Byte --[[User:Atomic Horse|Atomic Horse]] 17:47, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Devastator, Megatron (BW), Omega Supreme, Rattrap --[[User:Endgame|Endgame]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee(g1),Blitzwing(g1/animated),Bulkhead(animated/prime),Cyclonus(g1),Predaking(g1)--[[User:Bardock12|Bardock12]] 18:11, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bludgeon, Overlord, Prowl, Ultra Magnus, Wreck-Gar --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:47, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Crosswise, Hotshot, Vehicon (Prime), Wheeljack [[Special:Contributions/74.90.6.206|74.90.6.206]] 19:06, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus, Unicron {{unsigned|64.121.173.16}}
*Arcee, Barricade, Ironfist, Prowl, Thundercracker --[[User:TrashTalk|TrashTalk]] 01:33, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
*Alpha Trion, Arcee (Prime), Bulkhead, Prowl (Animated), W heeljack -- [[Special:Contributions/134.161.85.66|134.161.85.66]] 00:18, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Cyclonus, Kup, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Starscream0625|Starscream0625]] 00:24, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Bomb-Burst (G1), Cosmos, Warpath, Wheelie (G1), Wreck-Gar (G1 and Animated) {{unsigned|115.135.229.16}}
*Cliffjumper, Cyclonus, Hot Rod, Kup, Skywarp {{unsigned|98.132.183.140}}
*Megatron (BW), Nightbeat, Rattrap, Skullgrin, Springer - [[User:Danja|Danja]] 10:56, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Kup, Megatron (BW), Rattrap, Sky-Byte --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 11:19, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Blitzwing, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Sky-Byte --[[User:TrentTroop|TrentTroop]] 12:04, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Cyclonus, Galvatron, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus --[[Special:Contributions/50.138.134.40|50.138.134.40]] 12:29, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Hot Shot, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Amadeus Windfall|Amadeus Windfall]] 12:52, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Swindle -- GR
*Blaster, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Ravage, Skids --[[User:Chip|Chip]] 13:50, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee,Blackarachnia,Cliffjumper,Megatron(BW),Straxus---Abdullah
*Prowl, Roadbuster, Springer, Soundwave, Thundercracker --[[User:Shafau|Shafau]] 14:07, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Drift, Laserbeak, Megatron (BW), Thundercracker (G1), Wheeljack. {{unsigned|98.232.210.235}}
*Blurr, Bulkhead, Jetfire, Unicron, Wheeljack --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 14:51, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Broadside, Bulkhead, Jetfire, Megatron (BW), Unicron [[User:ShinRa Actual|ShinRa Actual]] 15:49, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Hot Rod, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte [[User:MrBlud|MrBlud]] 20:19, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Ironhide (movie), Jazz, Megatron (TF:P), Ratchet, Ultra Magnus (G1)--nikikt
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Lockdown, Omega Supreme, Scourge(RiD) -- [[User:Assey|Assey]] 23:20, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Devastator, Scorponok, Wheeljack, Wreck-Gar -- {{unsigned|24.3.231.149}}
*Cyclonus, Hot Rod, Optimus Primal, Sky-Byte, Wheeljack -- [[User:Anguirus]]
*Liokaiser, Metal Hawk, Minerva, Six Shot, Star Saber -- [[user:XenoStryker|XenoStryker]]
*Darkwing, Dreadwind, Impactor, Swindle, Xaaron - [[Special:Contributions/94.195.192.254|94.195.192.254]] 03:46, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Unicron -- [[user:Daith]]
*Bulkhead, Scourge (RiD), Sideways, Sky-Byte, Wheeljack -- [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] 07:46, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Knock Out, Prowl, Skywarp, Sunstreaker, Thundercracker--[[User:TheHappyShark|TheHappyShark]] 09:27, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage, Shokaract--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:47, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Blaster, Guzzle, Megatron (BW), Ravage --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 12:12, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Carnivac, Straxus, Swindle, Under-3, Xaaron [[User:Blueshift|Blueshift]] 12:18, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Rattrap, Ravage, Scorponok, Swoop, Thundercracker {{unsigned|24.21.71.55}}
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle [[Special:Contributions/75.89.162.254|75.89.162.254]] 15:23, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Black Zarak, Erector, Fortress Maximus, Minerva, Swindle -- Star Sabre James 14:35 February 26, 2012 (CST)
*Fortress Maximus, Minerva, Prowl, Skywarp, Swindle -- Lowlight 14:46 February 26, 2012 (CST)
*Blitzwing, Lockdown, Overlord, Prowl, Wheeljack {{unsigned|Astrotrain85}}
*Bludgeon, Metalhawk, Minerva, Unicron, Thunderclash {{unsigned|Aernaroth}}
*Bulkhead, Cliffjumper, Hot Shot, Ultra Magnus, Wheeljack -- [[User:Thedude|Thedude]] 17:21, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Devastator, Rodimus Prime, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:PsychoAndy|PsychoAndy]] 18:08, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Jetfire, Optimus Primal, Prowl (G1), Silverbolt (BW), Superion -- [[Pizzle]] 18:20, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Sky-Byte, Star Saber, Swindle, Thundercracker -- [[User:Terrortron|Terrortron]] 19:05, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Ravage, Sky-Byte, Swindle [[User:Pencoin|Pencoin]] 19:59, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Brawl, Hot Shot, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Swindle -- [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 22:02, 26 February 2012 (EST)


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Talk:Mini-Con

2012-02-02T20:22:19Z

Karhukjnsi:

Did Unicron actually create the Mini-Cons using human souls? I was under the impression that it was the contact with Rad, Alexis and Carlos that made Mini-Con souls part human, and was entirely outside Uni's design. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 19:25, 6 April 2006 (PDT)

Uhhh... Siph? (I was goign from memory. Really, Iw as mostly interested int he fact Mini-cons appear to have lost their vast powers in favor of Merely Reasonable powers post-Armada, otherwise why wasnt' everyone running to the Mini-cons in Energon?) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:28, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Hm. Soundwaves Fan Club bio says Unciron created the Mini-Cons. The FC comic and Cybertron cartoon take place in the DW comic universe. Whee. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

:I'm gonna go out on a limb, blame the Unicron Singularity, and then look the other way. Anyone else? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

:::Even Galaxy Force seems confused on this, talking like the mini-cons were born after the fall of Planet X(1400 years ago) yet are referred to as having been there in ancient times. Maybe the current mini-cons on Gigantion are second generation, the first batch having been destroyed by Planet X or evolved into larger Transformers.

The Cybertron dub makes absolutely no mention as to when the Gigantion Mini-Cons "arrived". For all the show tells us, they could have been on the ''Lemuria'' with the others. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

==Classics==

Okay. quick question... Any info at all on the Classics Mini-Cons? Did they fall into the comics continuity from another dimension? Are they analogous to Micromasters? Did Unicron barf them up after a few hits in the gut from the Matrix? Do they even exist? In any case, I'm gonna go ahead and start a Classics section on the page, and give it a "We don't know anything." filler paragraph, just so there's something in this article mentioning that they're there. --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 18:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, the club's "New World" story gave data on cybertronian mini-cons, and was free to non club members.

Can we have some data on it here?--[[User:Chiasaur11|Chiasaur11]]

== Uhh..... ==

Why is Lugnut in "Things that are not Mini-Con"? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:51, 3 September 2009 (EDT)
*His arms have mini-con style ports.-Hida Atarasi

== Cassettes ==

From the [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette]]s page - "In addition to being retconned as deployers, Soundwave's [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] bio also presented Ravage, Laserbeak and all of Soundwave's other partners as [[Mini-Cons]]. That'll rattle a few cages. [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/movie-news/TRANSFORMERS-HALL-OF-FAME-Nominee-1.cfm]" How does that get worked in here? I don't really see where it fits best. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:47, 3 May 2010 (EDT)

==Symbol==
[[Image:TFTM-Unicronalternatehead.jpg|thumb|right]]
Okay, I'm not sure why McFeely reverted my edit about the symbol reflecting the design of Unicron's helmet to restore the previous version stating that the helmet reflects the design of the symbol. Unicron predates Mini-cons by over a decade. If one looks like the other it is the younger looking like the older. In the picture to the right, the dark grey section of Unicron's head comes out from his chin, proceeds upward to the top of his head and is divided by a point descending from his orange mohawk. I had always interpreted the Mini-con symbol as a stylization of that aspect of Unicron's head, is there something I'm missing? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:22, 10 March 2011 (EST)

==Movie==
are wheelie and brains not mini cons too? how about reedman? how about the itty bitty energizer bunny from hell?[[Special:Contributions/24.67.59.249|24.67.59.249]] 11:21, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

:Is there any source or toy supporting Moive-verse Frenzy is a Mini-Con? --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 07:30, 5 October 2011 (EDT)

== Aligned Continuity ==

Soundwave's minions are now Minicons, according the Exodus novel. Shouldn't this be mentioned here? Or... perhaps a new Minicon page be created, dealing with characters in the new aligned continuity? [[User:Ultra Magnotron|Ultra Magnotron]] 14:03, 28 October 2011 (EDT)
: No... we generally keep all factions on the same page. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 13:53, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

== G1 cartoon ==

As seen in the 80's cartoon and Marvel comics, [[Soundwave (G1)]] has his little guys come out of his chest, like [[Frenzy (G1)]], [[Rumble (G1)]], and [[Laserbeak (G1)]]. [[Frenzy (WFC)|Their]] ''[[Rumble (WFC)|Prime]]'' [[Laserbeak (Prime)|counterparts]] are said to be mini-cons. I always thought their G1 counterparts were mini-cons too. Just like I thought the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] were all [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s brothers or clones. My brother also says [[Frenzy (Movie)]] is [[Barricade (Movie)]]'s minicon? Are they minicons are not? Shouldn't it atleast be noted somewhere that the G1 little guys aren't minicons if they aren't? Just asking?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.96.209|71.162.96.209]] 20:58, 30 January 2012 (EST)
: I don't think that's necessary. They're not Mini-Cons because Mini-Cons didn't exist until 2002. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:06, 30 January 2012 (EST)

== Spelling of "Minicon" concerning the Aligned continuity family. ==

I spent a fair amount of time changing "Mini-Con" to "Minicon" (the specific spelling seen in the "Exodus" novel) on several articles concerning "Minicon" in the Aligned universe, and M Sipher decided to revert every single one. What gives? Is this not a similar example to "Dino" vs "Mirage" depending on where it comes from? Even the "Mini-Con" article mentions the "Minicon" spelling for the Aligned continuity family, explicitly pointing out that there is no dash. I'm trying to keep it accurate , so why was it reverted (to M Sipher) and I move for it to be reverted back to how I set it (to the mods). --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 20:53, 1 February 2012 (EST)
: Alex Irvine can't even keep the facts of his own book straight. And we've had many misparsings on official side-stuff for a long time now ("BlackArachnia" from many sources comes to mind immediately). Hasbro also does not have a Trademark for "Minicon", they have "Mini-Con". The original move is jumping the gun. I move for no massive changes to be made until we see how HASBRO is labeling them, and since, well, it looks like Prime will have Mini-Cons in it... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:23, 2 February 2012 (EST)
::Trademarks are absolutely irrelevant to this subject, this wiki has continuously gone with what was officially used until directly proven otherwise. The spelling may have been "Mini-Con" in the past, but seeing as how there has been NOTHING to oppose that, it should be "Minicon" on the various Aligned-based pages until proven otherwise. Even the [[Minicon#Aligned|Aligned section on the Mini-Con page]] has had the specific mentioning of the "no dash" for a considerable amount of time and I don't see you going after that (or my edits from "The Fallen" to "the Fallen" concerning the Aligned continuity family, for that matter). We have not directly seen anything otherwise that opposes the notion that "Minicon" is the currently standing official spelling for the race of Transformers in the Aligned continuity family. If we do see that "Mini-Con" ends up being officially used on the various products, then the changes can be met as necessary, but we HAVE directly seen "Minicon" be used in the Aligned continuity family. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 15:22, 2 February 2012 (EST)

Talk:Mini-Con

2012-02-02T01:53:45Z

Karhukjnsi: /* Spelling of "Minicon" concerning the Aligned continuity family. */ new section

User talk:M Sipher

2012-02-02T01:44:39Z

Karhukjnsi: /* Woah woah woah, why revert my "Minicon" edits? */ new section

AMBIGUITY IS THE FLAVOR OR LIFE!

YOU WOULD ROB US OF OUR MYSTERIES!

Dumping everything written was not required, unless Wikipedia automatically saves what I have written somewhere.

==Autobot Officer==

Uh. Oopsies? Didn't know you were getting pics, too. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 21:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

== Americanised spelling ==
Hi there, PacifistPrime the originator of the [[Scale]] article here. Thanks for cleaning up some of the typos. However, is it really neccessary to "correct" all my spelling by changing it to Americanised spelling? Is there actually a rule here that one has to use American spelling instead of, well... to be frank: the way the rest of world's users of the English Language spell? No offence intended, just asking. Let me know. [[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]]
:I would think "yes", since this is an Amerocentric wiki and consistency looks professional. I don't realistically believe we'll ever achieve that because there are too many people from too many regions contributing, and further there are a lot of variations in how people type regardless of what area they're from. I can't stand putting two spaces between sentences, but I wouldn't be offended if someone changed a page I worked on to use them. -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

==What edit are you talking about?==
If you're talking about my submission about Blackarachnia's telekinesis, it is NOT baseless speculation; she did use telekinesis in Master Blaster against Rampage, and although they never said where she got it, it is very likely that the psychic link she had with Tarantulas was upgraded during her Transmetalization. Watch the episode; you'll see Blackarachnia's eyes glow green, levitate an I-beam, and fling it at Rampage. The episode was right after Crossing the Rubicon (where Blackarachnia became a TM2), and 18 episodes after Tangled Web, when Blackarachnia forced Tarantulas to terminate their mind link after four episodes (and in case you want to contest it, Other Visits made a mention of the mind link, and how it worked both ways, meaning that BA had some remnants of the link, at the very least some of Tarantulas' memories, if not some other side effects).[[User:66.233.183.59|66.233.183.59]] 15:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
:I'm not Sipher, but I agree that it's speculation that doesn't belong here. Her glowing eyes echo the glowing tendrils involved in Cheetor's TM2-ification. It's a Transmetal 2 thing, and I see nothing whatsoever to connect it with the former mental link she shared with Tarantulas. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:21, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

== Beast Wars Video Game ==

Hey Siph- I finally picked up a copy of the BW Game off e-bay (the original snap I made was from the demo.)

I'm nto very far into it (finding time this summer is tough) but thus far there's been no mention of the Skriix. Were they named in the game booklet or something? ('cuz i lack the booklet.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
: I'm trying to remember WHERE they were named. It might have been promotional materials. It's not in the booklet, I know that... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:52, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
::I theeeeeenk it might've been in one of the pre-mission "briefings" that came up before you started each level. Level... three, I want to say? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:53, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Okay, then I just haven't played it enough to get that info. Thanks!
:::Was there anything of value at all in the booklet that I'm missing out on? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:13, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

ok, but what about those pages that are wanted?

you can't say a whole lot about say the third episode of Five Faces of Darkness can you?

other than that, what do you think of my wording?

and btw, theres a weird random page about weather in london but wasn't deleted, joke I'm not aware of maybe?
--[[User:DracoJesi|DracoJesi]] 18:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

==Image upload issues==
Are you having any problems with image uploads? For some reason the wiki isn't uploading my images onto the server. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:28, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

==Twirl toy image==
Can you upload a photo of her robot and vehicle modes? Preferably against a 'neutral' background to fit with the rest of the toy pics. She is too awesome to go without toy photos, methinks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

==Megatron's Brazilian Voice Actor==
Howdy ho! Hey, you said that the information about Megatron's voice actor in the film was on the wrong place when i put it on his page.
Where would be the right place?
I was thinking that maybe if i mentioned that José Santacruz plays a REALLY monstrous Megs, much similar to the one Hugo Weaving did, maybe it could go where i originally intended?
Thanks for the time.--[[User:akumateukuma|akumateukuma]] 11:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

==Rartorata==
I don't really appreciate the "fuck you" in your edit summary, Siph. After the last round of discussion in October I thought -- due to lack of voiced disagreement -- that the names were going to be toned down to just ones that sound at least slightly like his real name, which personally I consider quite important. I reverted an anonymous change to the article which went against that "rule", and now you're cursing me out. That is quite uncool. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:21, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

==Create-A-Bot's Alt-modes==

I'm currently reworking the format and putting it in a more relevant form. It's not that it isn't important, but that the method in which it was added was inappropriate. I believe the original version went something like this.

"Just like his heroic counterpart, Create-A-Bot can adapt into numerous forms that can change his status, but several of his forms cannot be accessed in the game, but can be obtained by WiFi points by visiting the official Activition website. The altmodes are..."

and then listed them in a long and hard to read cluster. This not only is confusing, but also give the impression that ALL of the alt-modes have to be unlocked. So, instead of having a list, I am going to add an easier to read section in each article.

- ''Update'': The sections have been finished and added. Sorry about before, I guess I just forgot to leave a message on the Discussion page about it. -- [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 04:04, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Prowl Redirect ==

The wiki's lack of warning strikes again. I have made certain to preview every edit I do, looking for a warning that I'm editing an outdated version of the page. While I was making that edit, you redirected the page. When I previewed my edit, it gave no warning that anything had changed, so I submitted it—which undid the move. At least the new redirect included my clean-up...--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 05:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

== Robot Heroes ==

There are clear packaging pics of all that are on TFW2005 (I think, I went from Seibertron.com). Not sure where from, but it isn't like they've been secretly leaked to me.

[[User:Ragingtsunami726|Ragingtsunami726]] 02:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

: So... stolen. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's some links, right here

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=161976

http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&album=8828&dispsize=800&start=0

http://seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12219

Anyone and their mother can see them. I see nowhere that they've been stolen and find it hard to believe Hasbro wouldn't have seen the pics after a day or two, considering Stealth Bumblebee. We've seen Cheetor, Rattrap, and Megatron before anyway. I'm leaving them there. [[User:Ragingtsunami726|Ragingtsunami726]] 02:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:We've seen them because they were ''stooooooooooooooolen''. They have ''noooot'' been officially announced by Hasbro or any official sales solicitations anywhere. Therefore, they are not to be put on this wiki until they are. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:42, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

We saw the prototypes (Not Blackarachnia) months ago. They've been on this Wiki with the exception of Blackarachnia for months. If I absolutly cannot add her and the confirmed lineups, I will change it back to the way it was before. The protos have been and still are available for the rest and have been for months. I think, THINK they were from Botcon, but I'm unsure. Comic-Con? [[User:Ragingtsunami726|Ragingtsunami726]] 02:46, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, several were shown at Botcon 2007; maybe at Comic-Con too, I dunno. But for the ones that weren't, our own policy (specifically [[Help:Coming_soon]] ) means we need to leave them alone until there's something official. Without a hard and fast policy, there's no fair way to declare what should and shouldn't be here when gray areas arise. Besides which, we're not trying to be a news site. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:54, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Is that a good compromise? There is no info there that seems unacceptable to me. I apologize for getting off on the wrong foot. The article on Smash Bros. Brawl on Wikipedia has made me defensive. [[User:Ragingtsunami726|Ragingtsunami726]] 03:01, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==You don't get to annoy and rule-break your way back to good graces.==
Unless you're me, that is. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:16, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

==Weird bootleg minicons==
Are you still looking for the various KO minicons? A store by me has the purple/yellow Star Saber team, the constructicon-esque Military team, and the weird combining remolds, if you're still interested. Also, they have inexplicably huge amounts of WCW Nitro cologne. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 20:03, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

==Anchors==
Have you noticed that each anchor line inserts a new blank line into the page formatting? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 08:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
:I see four choices: 1) accept the extra blank formatting line, 2) put the anchors at the end of the last line of the preceding section, 3) dirty up the code by replacing the blank formatting lines with the anchor template lines, or 4) put the anchor code at the end of the "title" section it anchors to, which may result in the page link manifesting with its section title scrolled off the screen. For OP G1, for the purposes of getting my Stormbringer trivia edit in, I'm going with 2, for now. I'll fix it when we've got a decision. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:15, 14 February 2008 (EST)

== Telemocha episodes ==

Let's see,
:TM-01 Primal: 02
:TM-02 Megatron: 04
:TM-03 Cheetor: 05
:TM-04 Waspinator: 06
:TM-05 Dinobot: 09
:TM-06 Blackarachnia: 10
:TM-07 Corada: 11
:TM-08 Arcadis: 20
:TM-09 Rhinox: 03
:TM-10 Wolfang: 08
:TM-11 Tigatron: 07
:TM-12 Gimlet: 12
:TM-13 Motorarm: 21
:TM-SP Primal: 01 & 15
:TM-SP Megatron: 13 & 14

So far, that's episodes 1-15, 20, and 21 --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

== New Mini-Con ==

Just a heads-up: If you haven't heard yet, there's another Mini-Con/Micron store exclusive due from Japan. Starting March 13, the first 10 customers to buy J-release TF Classics toys at any Toys "R" Us get a free Skyglide, a red recolor of Steelwind from the Clear Skies Team, probably meant to homage Powerglide. (This is from ''Figure King'' #121, according to Autobase Aichi. I don't think there are any images in the article.) I'm not sure where this info should be put into the wiki. There doesn't seem to be enough info to set up an article of its own yet. A "coming soon" notice on the main Mini-Con page until we know more, maybe?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 20:06, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

== Mech Version ==

I tried a Google search and didn't find anything right off. I DID find Yahoo Japan auction listings which listed it in kana as メッキ, which is definitely "chromed" and not "mech". Point me to the site, please?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 21:14, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
: That's the kana on TakaraTomy's page for the set http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/other/index.html ... but isn't that kana "Meh-(shorten next)-ki"? "Mech"? Wouldn't "chromed" be an entirely different set of kana? The ones used for "Chromebite"? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
::No. Check it out by copy-pasting the katakana into the translation box at Jim Breen's. While クローム isn't unknown in Japan (Heck, it's what they call Stylor), the general term for chrome-plated parts is メッキ. (Technically, it's 鍍金 or 滅金, but perhaps because those can also be pronounced "tokin" and mean "pretense", it's usually rendered in katakana.) I first figured that by seeing it used in instructions for snap-together model kits which included such pieces. "Mech" is usually rendered メカ, as in short for "mechanism".--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

== Heroes of Cybertron Cat? ==

Hey, are you going to populate a Heroes of Cybertron category? Dirge currently is all alone there, and I was about to delete the cat from his page to help clean up the Wanted Cats page. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
: Why the fuck would you delete it? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:: First of all, I'm here to discuss the matter ''before'' I do anything rash, so I don't think I deserve the swearing. Chill.
:: Second of all, I considered deleting the link to the cat because the cat doesn't exist, and there's no demonstrable desire for it to exist, as shown by the fact that there's only one article in it.
:: But, third, if you were intending to fill out the category, so that it reaches the minimum number of entries we require to justify a category, I fully support you in that. I'm just asking if that's your plan, or if you expect other people to take care of it. [[User:JW|JW]] 18:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

==this may sound awkward...==
r u a guy or a girl? if it says anywhere on ur talk page, i just kinda skimmed thru it.i always assumed u were a girl, but decided not 2 call u 1. if u know what happened last time [[User:Inferno'sQueen|someone's]] gender was mistaken. [[User:American Girl|American Girl]] 20:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
: Yes, he is a girl. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 20:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
::You can tell by Sipher's pink armor plating.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:29, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:If he's a girl, then he's in serious need of [[Greg Sepelak|electrolysis]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== "lay odds?" ==

what odds? [[User:ShinkisRule|ShinkisRule]] 15:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:y'know, ya still haven't answered the question..[[User:ShinkisRule|ShinkisRule]] 15:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
::And yet by pestering him, ''you'' have.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
:::huh? [[User:ShinkisRule|ShinkisRule]] 19:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== Soundwave edits by 143.239.7.2 ==

Okay, the whole Gurren Lagan/gattai history business is drawing parallels that are either speculative or outside the intended scope of the wiki. (A note might be made somewhere of Soundwave's combining method, though. Is it unique within TF lore?) However, why excise the directly TF-related material—i.e., noting the homages to the original Soundwave?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 23:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
:I think that's the section Sipher removed due to (as I believe he put it) being "blatantly obvious."--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

==Scourge Edit==

That's the second time that my trivia post for RiD Scourge was deleted. It's a valid point, and I dunno why you guys are refusing to allow it, especially since there seems to be no qualms on here with making tranny jokes about Override or Airazor. Kind of hypocritical, ne?
[[User:64.13.101.210|64.13.101.210]] 23:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
: No, not at all. Because Airazor and Override did legitimately, officially change genders in translation. Scourge... drumroll... ''has always been male, and has never ever ever been officially hinted as having the remotest female whatever ever''. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:13, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== Yeah, I'm spamming ==

Canvassing a few talkpages here so we can get folks to weigh in and finalize the potential Wiki image policy. Your input would be appreciated at [[Transformers Wiki talk:Images]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

== blocking help ==

Lets just say a acount has been blocked, and I cant even edit my talk page. Could you
tell me whats up. [[User:F1 fan|F1 fan]] 04:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

== Please Provide More Details ==
...as to why you removed the army building reference in the Starscream clone article. A simple rephrasing could have eliminated any problems you have with the word "Clearly". I dont mean to seem bitchy/pushy, but I really think that it was a good contribution to the article. [[Talk:Starscream clone (Animated)]] --[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 04:30, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

==Ironhide==
I read your thing about Botcon, very interesting. But the chances that Ironhide's southern accent doesn't originate from Cullen's are very low indeed. If you listen to the two voices, Ironhide's voice in Animated has a slightly different style. The most likely explanation is that the idea of the accent was taken from Cullen's 'Hide, while the sound of the accent was modelled on the other guys. And both should be noted in page. Something like "The idea of a southern accent is most likely based on G1 Ironhide, however the particular variant/vernacular(whatever) is based on such and such". [[User:GWolfv2]] 19.20 May 31st
: No. I'm goddamn sick of over-reaching desperate "THIS MUST BE GEEWUN REFERENCE". Especially when we're talking about an analogue to a G1 character... at BEST, it's "no shit, Sherlock" (you mean a guy based on G1 Ironhide has slightly-G1-Ironhide-like traits?! NOOO!), at worst, it's a desperate grab for a non-reference. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
::Ugh...well, I said my piece...nice to know you're keeping your head and not getting worked up over nothing btw [[User:GWolfv2]] 22.01 May 31st
:::Nice to know you're supporting the spread of idiotic misinformation. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hey ==

As the only staff member online at the moment as far as I know, can you make a decision about the latest Animated episode's title? We have two separate groups of editors working on two different articles for this episode. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:31, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

== Original photo watermark ==

Hey, I'm working on finishing cleaning up the Magmatron photos I took before the crash. Do you still have that TFWiki watermark template handy?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:07, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

== Thanks ==

for fixing up the Stormbringer description I did. I think my original edit summary was lost, but I had basically only done that because I thought it was important in explaining why Optimus got over feeling unworthy - and you summed it up a lot better than I ever could.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 14:38, 16 May 2009 (EDT)

==Yo==
[[Image_talk:Alt-toy_AiKuruma.jpg]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:48, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

== Vandalism warning ==

Guess who's back. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 18:42, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

== Awesome job, man. ==
{{gigantionaward}}
Really love the style you're doing the Micromaster Combiner toy photos in. Nicely done.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:22, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
: I concur. I think you deserve one of those prizes for services to the wiki. Excellent, excellent work. Keep it up! 08:10, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
::Well, I proposed the TFWiki Funbux as our official monetary reward. I too concur on a great you did. I especially like how you indication which half is which character in the combined vehicle pics. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:35, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
:::I actually made what amounts to a TFWiki "barnstar" once. And yep, Siph deserves it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 09:13, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

==Showdown translations==
Hey, Sipher. Just to save you time and a headache, I already translated the Showdown names, they're at [[Japanese ID number list#Beast Wars]]. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:01, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

== Linkage ==

I just wanted to thank you for going in and adding the megadata (like pub data) to the Linkage articles... I was trying to figure out when it was published yesterday, and I had to go back to some of your original ''usenet'' posts to confirm it spanned 2003 and 2004. (I suspected it did... but you know... that's not the same as being sure.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:26, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

BTW, I'm curious as to why you have them as <nowiki>[[Micron Legend 3]]</nowiki>, <nowiki>[[Micron Legend 6]]</nowiki>, and such, because that makes me think we'll be directing to the DVDs themselves... --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:33, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
:Because we ''will'' be, like I said when I reverted them? The individual DVDs totally should have their own articles. I think it's stupid to NOT have articles on the individual home releases of whatever. If we have articles on trade paperbacks, we should have articles on the home videos. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:30, 9 August 2009 (EDT)
::Ah. My bad. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 05:33, 9 August 2009 (EDT)

== Hey, ==

Is "Image:PsychoOrb-toy.jpg" one of yours? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:46, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
:Yes. I actually have a shadowless, watermarked version of that... and several others... that I just haven't gotten around to uploading. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:35, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

== IDW Dates ==

To answer your question... while the solicitations of course give an idea of what will come out at ''some'' point during a month, usually we only get one month's worth of specific dates around the end of the previous month/beginning of that month via Tipton's blog and IDW's newsletter.

...so I guess the short answer is "no, we don't have specific dates for December or January stuff yet". Although we should get November's dates soon. I guess we could put in question-marked placeholders based on the solicitations... --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:27, 25 October 2009 (EDT)

== Beast Wars Returns airdates ==

[http://anime_list.at.infoseek.co.jp/list/2004/11.html The site] Jon T referred me to had all the listings and from what I could tell going by the months I know the show premiered in Japan, plus the consistency between the airdates, it all looks legit to me. So I scrolled through each month, matched up the Japanese titles with the ones on this site to make sure the Japanese and Western episode orders were the same, and here are all the original Japanese airdates for the series:

*The Reformatting 2004/11/ 6
*Master of the House 2004/11/ 7
*Fires of the Past 2004/11/13
*Mercenary Pursuits 2004/11/14
*Forbidden Fruit 2004/11/20
*The Weak Component 2004/11/21
*Revelations Part I: Discovery 2004/11/27
*Revelations Part II: Descent 2004/11/28
*Revelations Part III: Apocalypse 2004/12/ 4
*Survivor 2004/12/ 5
*The Key 2004/12/11
*The Catalyst 2004/12/12
*End of the Line 2004/12/18
*Fallout 2004/12/19
*Savage Noble 2004/12/25
*Prometheus Unbound 2004/12/26
*In Darkest Knight 2005/ 1/ 1
*A Wolf in the Fold 2005/ 1/ 2
*Home Soil 2005/ 1/ 8
*Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike 2005/ 1/ 9
*Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search 2005/ 1/15
*Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege 2005/ 1/16
*Spark of Darkness 2005/ 1/22
*Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral 2005/ 1/23
*Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall 2005/ 1/29
*Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future 2005/ 1/30

Have at them. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 09:19, 19 December 2009 (EST)

==Kiss Purge==
Good show on the Kiss Player == HORRIBLE purge. Some people (read: most people) don't seem to understand restraint.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:54, 2 March 2010 (EST)

==FemTF article==
Ehrm, sorry if I am being pushy, but some time ago you said you wanted to take a look at what you could improve on [[User:Geewunling/FemaleTF-Sandbox|my draft XXL]] for a new femTF page. I'll have finished up education duties in about a week and would like to continue and finally be done with the damn thing, so if it's possible you can take a look at it by then/around that time, I'd be really grateful. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:41, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

== Pst ==

There's a link to "Mass delete" at the bottom of the list of [[Special:Specialpages]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:32, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

== Edits ==

So overall, I saw several minor adjustments to the pages I made today, and I've noted them for any pages I make in the future. I didn't see any major revisions, though. Are the pages I did mostly okay, as long as I keep an eye out for the things you had to come behind me and fix? [[User:Skyshock Thunderblast|Skyshock Thunderblast]] 23:01, 9 July 2010 (EDT)

== Crankstart and suffering... ==

http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Crankstart&diff=prev&oldid=461445

*retires to a safe distance* :p - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 22:51, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
: [[Transformers_Wiki:Caption#Captions_and_jokes_we.27re_sick_of]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:04, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

== Silas and meltdown ==

The MECH agent piloting the helicopter outright said that the D.N.G.S. didn't meltdown after Prime's trailer was destroyed by the Vehicons. So Silas does know about the meltdown thing. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 13:22, 5 March 2011 (EST)
:There's a world of difference between knowing a radioactive thing will meltdown and knowing that it would be a ''five-state'' meltdown. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:28, 5 March 2011 (EST)

== Congrats ==

You nabbed my obvious sock.

And ''only'' my obvious sock. The not-so-obvious one is still out there, waiting to be found.....

-Blackout-

==Divebomb==
Naw, that's Space Case again. You can ''juuust'' see the blue snakeskin grid deco alongside his cockpit. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:13, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

==Khon==
In "Dungeons & Dinobots", would Khon be a new location or a typo of Kaon? (P.S., please say the former) [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 10:05, 9 July 2011 (EDT)

== ... ==

What constant steam of negativity? <strike>And a death ray is really negative!!</strike> [[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] 12:05, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

== Spam ==

Does [[User talk:Dynamic|THIS]] count as Spam?--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 13:18, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

==Albitron==
You wouldn't happen to know what magazines MiB advertised Albitron and Swoop in, would you? Tracking those down to get scans of them seems like something to do. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 19:15, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

== Power Core Combiners ==

Just a shout out, I love your PCC fig pics, they look awesome! [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 11:05, 4 November 2011 (EDT)

== Quizno's Talking Oven... ==

I totally agree with your opinion on that commercial. [[Special:Contributions/50.36.116.49|50.36.116.49]] 14:51, 12 December 2011 (EST)

== Woah woah woah, why revert my "Minicon" edits? ==

In the Aligned universe the spelling for the word is "Minicon" rather than "Mini-Con" why would you undo all that since we have EVIDENCE presented in the novels of the spelling? It's the same thing as "Dino" vs "Mirage" for the specific forms of fiction. It's changed as it is presented, and in this case "Minicon" is the correct one. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 20:44, 1 February 2012 (EST)

Bumblebee (WFC)

2012-02-01T04:28:15Z

Karhukjnsi: Added the "Minicon" category back in, guessing it's something to do with the Micron?

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:''Bumblebee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:PrimeBee.jpg|thumb|300px|"I don't understand why I sleep all day..."]]
'''Bumblebee''' is a young and eager Autobot, one of the last generation to be created before the loss of the [[AllSpark (Prime)|AllSpark]]. He's full of energy and determination to do the right thing, and can always be counted on to volunteer for action. His small size matched with his impressive speed make him an excellent scout and messenger.

He's been on Earth longer than any other Autobot, and he's grown to like and understand [[human]]s, particularly [[Raf Esquivel]] and [[Axel Frazier]]. If you're a Decepticon and you want to threaten any humans, you better not think you can get away with it just because Bumblebee's small and can't talk: he can't talk because his voicebox was ''destroyed'' in combat and he's still kept fighting, because Bumblebee will take any risk and make whatever sacrifice ''necessary'' to win the war.

{{quote|Bumblebee, it wouldn't kill you to exercise caution.|[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Bumblebee was part of the last generation of Cybertronians that emerged from the [[Well of All Sparks]] after it had stopped producing life in a lull at the beginning of the [[Autobot]]-[[Decepticon]] war. Like all born during the war, he joined the Autobots. He became part of [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]]'s inner circle with [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]], [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] and [[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]], and also befriended [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]], learning first aid skills from him in the few battles they fought together.

When Optimus ejected the [[AllSpark]] from the Well into space, Bumblebee distracted [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] at [[Tyger Pax]], and paid the ultimate price when the tyrant destroyed his vocoder. Ratchet repaired it, but Bumblebee was only able to speak from time to time. When Megatron stole the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] underneath the [[Autobot High Council|High Council Tower]], Bumblebee followed him to the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] below the ruins of [[Crystal City]] and witnessed him use it to corrupt Cybertron's [[core]] with [[Dark Energon]].

Bumblebee informed Optimus of what he saw, but first he had to serve as part of the extraction unit in Optimus's rescue of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] from [[Kaon]]. Afterwards Optimus, Bumblebee and [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]] journeyed to the core through the Well. Due to the heavy build up of Dark Energon, Bumblebee found it a distressing experience and lost it when they reached the core, silently tearing out the protruding Corruption Spikes. Though fearful of what would happen, Optimus was able to remove the Chamber and begin Cybertron's healing.

Back at [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Optimus announced [[Ark (Prime)|Project Generation One]] to evacuate Cybertron, for the planet could not sustain a fraction of the life it currently supported if it were to survive. Bumblebee boarded the ''[[Eight Track (Prime)|Eight Track]]'' with the other elite Autobots and drew out and entered [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]]. Avoiding Trypticon's corridor drones and [[Minicons]] they blew up the Dark Energon Facility, causing him to crash. Bumblebee boarded the ''Ark'', which flew him and his friends through the last [[space bridge]] to a [[Milky Way|spiral galaxy]] with the AllSpark detected nearby. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

===''Exiles''===

After passing through the unstable [[Space Bridge]], Bumblebee and the Autobots aboard the Ark found themselves in the vicinity of a Cybertronian colony world called [[Velocitron]]. Bumblebee was part of Optimus Prime's initial landing team, who made contact with the planet's rulers, [[Override (Prime)|Override]] and [[Ransack (Prime)|Ransack]]. It was a time of great stress between Velocitron's rulers, and the Autobots' arrival from mythical Cybertron only exacerbated the situation. Although the Autobots secured an ally in Override, they left Velocitron on the brink of civil war during their departure.

The next leg of their journey through the Space Bridge brought the Autobots to fabled [[Junkion]], a world composed entirely of space junk. Bumblebee and the Autobots met [[Wreck-Gar (Prime)|Wreck-Gar]] and his ever-busy people, the Junkions, who maintained an entire planet made of derelict ships and space junk that gravitated together over time. Optimus Prime's Matrix-induced visions led him on a quest through one of the four Space Bridge nodes surrounding Junkion, and he selected Bumblebee and [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]] to accompany him. Through the Bridge they came across the lonely tomb of [[Solus Prime]], fabled artifacer of the [[Thirteen]]. Her holographic spirit was called forth by the Matrix and informed the Autobots that the [[Requiem Blaster (Prime)|Requiem Blaster]], most deadly of her creations, rested on Junkion and must be kept out of Decepticon hands.

Returning to Junkion, Bumblebee joined the other Autobots in a struggle with the Decepticons aboard the newly arriving ''Nemesis''. The Requiem Blaster was uncovered inside a ship at the planet's core. A weapon capable of drawing infinite power from nearby stellar sources, the Requiem Blaster had its own gravity field, and had literally been the core around which Junkion's "junk" had formed. The fighting over the Requiem Blaster ripped the planet apart, but both sides eventually called off the melee and abandoned the Blaster after learning the location of the Allspark itself. Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and the rest of the Autobots boarded the Ark and began the long race to reach their civilization's greatest prize before Megatron could. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles}}

===''Prime'' comic===
[[Image:PrimeComicBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|]]
Bumblebee and Optimus were on [[Earth]] when they detected [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]'s arrival and went to their rescue. After Optimus crushed [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], Bumblebee sent the Decepticon flying with a single punch, and escorted the others back to base. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (comic)}}
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===''Prime'' cartoon===

[[Image:Predatory-ArceeBeeCliff.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]
During the Great War, Bumblebee and Cliffjumper invaded [[Airachnid]]'s lair to rescue Arcee and [[Tailgate (Prime)|Tailgate]]. Bumblebee blasted a couple of Vehicons, but they were too late to save Tailgate. They carried Arcee out as she told them she'd been unable to save her partner. {{storylink|Predatory}}

Bumblebee was patrolling a desert area when Optimus ordered everyone back to [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|base]] so that they could use the [[GroundBridge]] to provide Cliffjumper with backup. They did so, but arrived at the battle site too late — Cliffjumper had been taken by the Decepticons, and apparently killed. The Autobots held a brief memorial for their friend.

[[Image:Bumblebee Bulkhead Arcee Darkness Rising 1.jpg|left|thumb|350px|''Voice actor:'' [[Snake-Eyes]] (English)]]

When Arcee and [[Jack Darby]] were pursued by Decepticons, Bumblebee joined in the chase as it moved onto the freeway. After a brief attempt to slow the Decepticons, he joined Arcee in facing the foe in a drainage canal, accidentally crushing a toy car belonging to [[Raf Esquivel|Rafael Esquivel]]. During the fight Bumblebee was knocked to the ground, and only Raf's timely distraction allowed him to temporarily get the better of the Decepticons, until [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] arrived and helped them scare the Decepticons off.

Optimus was disappointed that humans had gotten involved, and had Bumblebee and Arcee bring them back to the base. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} When [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] detected Cliffjumper's signal, Bumblebee was part of the team that went to try and rescue their comrade. Though he and the others valiantly fought through the multitudes of Decepticons at an energon mine, their mission was ultimately a failure, and they had to return to base hastily as the mine exploded. Prime later assigned him to watch over Raf to keep the boy safe from the Decepticons. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}}

[[Image:DarknessRising3-BumblebeeArceevehicles.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Drive on the right side of the road, Bumblebee!]]

The next day, Bumblebee discovered that he was a lot better than Raf at computer games, though Raf blamed it on Bumblebee's greater experience in driving. When they reached the base, Optimus and Ratchet left on a mission, placing Arcee in charge. Arcee promptly went out out on patrol, taking Bumblebee with her and leaving Bulkhead in charge. As they drove through the Nevada desert, Bulkhead reported that [[William Fowler|Fowler]] had been abducted by the Decepticons. When it turned out there was no one left at base to bridge them back, Arcee and Bumblebee were forced to drive there. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}

[[Image:DarknessRising4-Bumblebeeshoot.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Sting like a bee = die by fire]]

Bumblebee and Arcee arrived at the Decepticon ship in time to rescue Raf and Jack from a pair of Decepticons. They quickly located Bulkhead and Miko, also moving through the ship, but after it became obvious that the humans were in too much danger as they fought their way through the ship, the Autobots cleared out a room for them to hide out in. They eventually reached the brig where Fowler was being held, and Bumblebee and Bulkhead burst through the main door while Arcee slipped in through a top vent. A standoff ensued, until Fowler distracted Starscream long enough for the Autobots to start firing. Starscream thusly chased off, the Autobots took off with Fowler and rescued the kids on the way out. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}

Once the Autobots had located the whereabouts of the Deepticon [[space bridge]] — Earth orbit — Optimus, Bulkhead, Arcee and Bumblebee used the GroundBridge to reach it. They were spotted by Megatron and Starscream, who sent a force of flying Decepticons to attack them. While they battled, Ratchet determined a way to destroy the space bridge, so Bumblebee, Arcee and Bulkhead went to implement the plan. They committed the necessary act of sabotage before Megatron fired on them. Bumblebee collected Arcee on his way to jumping into the GroundBridge and carried her back to base where she recovered enough to stand on her own. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}

[[Image:Masters&Students-BeeQuake.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Bumblebee comes up with his own version of punch buggy blue.]]
Bumblebee helped Raf with his science project, building a small replica of a volcano while they discussed how Bumblebee had not yet risen to the rank of Warrior. As Optimus pointed out, Bumblebee still had much to learn before he could reach that level. Optimus subsequently picked Bumblebee to go on a mission to investigate Decepticon activity, but warned the smaller Autobot to hold back. When Optimus came to blows with [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]], Bumblebee decided to disregard the earlier order and charged into battle. Though he was no match for Skyquake, he and Optimus led the Decepticon into a trap and seemed victorious, until Skyquake [[scanning|scanned]] Fowler's jet. Bumblebee managed to end the fight by jumping onto Skyquake's jet form and causing critical damage, jumping to Fowler's jet as Skyquake crashed to the ground. After some repairs, Optimus commended him on his performance. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Bulkhead and Bumblebee discovered a strange pod in the [[Arctic]] which they brought back to base. When the kids arrived at base, Bumblebee was keen to play some videogames with Raf, but he and Bulkhead were roped into helping Ratchet repair the GroundBridge, which broke shortly after Optimus and Arcee used it to go to the Arctic. The cause of the problem was revealed when Raf found a [[Scraplet]], which started gnawing on Bumblebee. Raf killed it with a crowbar before it could do much more damage, but Bumblebee ended up having to search the base with Raf for more of the Scraplets. After finding quite a lot of Scraplets, they returned to the control room, where another mass of them overwhelmed Bumblebee, Bulkhead and Ratchet. Though the kids were able to get rid of the attacking Scraplets, Bumblebee was out of it for the rest of the incident, and ended up on a repair bed, being tended to by the kids. {{storylink|Scrapheap (episode)|Scrapheap}}

When [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] landed on Earth, Bulkhead, Arcee and Bumblebee turned out to welcome him and arrived in time to see him trash some Vehicons. The Autobots celebrated their new friend's arrival, and Bumblebee and Raf danced The Robot to Miko's guitar playing. He also stood around a lot while Bulkhead proved that "Wheeljack" was a Decepticon spy and the real Wheeljack turned up. After everything was resolved, the Autobots had another party to welcome the real Wheeljack, and Bumblebee got to bust out some more dance moves. He and Arcee turned out with Bulkhead to see Wheeljack off when the Autobot returned to space. {{storylink|Con Job}}

[[Image:Convoy-Bumblebeeboxing.jpg|thumb|left|250px|[[Jazz (Movie)|YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME?! YOU WANT A PIECE?!]] And please don't say you want two, because I know you're not Megatron. ]]

Bumblebee took part in the Autobot convoy to transport Fowler's [[Dynamic Nuclear Generation System]] across the US countryside. When [[MECH]] attacked them, he bashed into one of the cars they were using, flipping it over. The Autobots successfully passed the D.N.G.S. over to a train, but were shortly after confronted by a squadron of flying Vehicons, and were forced to return to their robot modes to fight. Bumblebee got to try out some boxing moves on a Vehicon, but while the Autobots were occupied, MECH made another attempt to obtain the D.N.G.S. which was foiled by Optimus. {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

When an [[Energon Harvester]] was located in a museum, the Autobots surrounded the building while the kids went in to steal it. [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] appeared at the front of the museum to attack Optimus, and as Breakdown charged at the museum, Bumblebee and Arcee attempted to stop him. Bumblebee was hit by a missile, sending him tumbling, and then by Arcee who'd just missed catching another missile. He, Arcee and Prime later attempted to track down the Decepticons before the Harvester could be used, but they ended up coming to Bulkhead's rescue after he found and stopped the Decepticons himself. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}

[[Image:SpeedMetal-BBvsBreakdown.jpg|thumb|250px|I want a new dance partner.]]
When Arcee refused to go street racing with Jack, Bumblebee was more receptive, though they asked Raf's permission beforehand. Unfortunately also participating in the race was Knock Out, who started firing on Bumblebee. After calling base and letting them know what was up, Bumblebee used an oil slick to slow down Knock Out, and hid under a bridge. They would have escaped detection had another human, [[Vince]], not confronted Jack about apparently pulling out of the race, and Vince was subsequently captured by Knock Out. After Arcee and Bulkhead arrived, the three Autobots pursued Knock Out to a storage facility, where Bumblebee and Bulkhead were ambushed by Breakdown. They defeated Breakdown and caught up with Knock Out. The other 'Con had already been stopped by Optimus, who was very interested in some explanations. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

When Optimus was infected with [[Cybonic plague]], Bumblebee and Arcee GroundBridged to the ''Nemesis'' to find a cure. Bumblebee discovered Megatron had survived their last battle and was recovering in sickbay. Unable to find the cure on the Decepticons' computer, Bumblebee offered to use the [[cortical psychic patch]] to enter Megatron's mind and locate it. Finding himself in a [[Kaon]]ian dreamscape, Bumblebee saw Megatron killing Optimus repeatedly. Megatron realized he could not harm Bumblebee and demanded to know why he was intruding on his mind. Bumblebee reminded him of the space bridge explosion and implored him to give him the cure, playing on his desire to kill Optimus for real rather than have him succumb to a virus. Megatron showed him the cure but demanded Bumblebee help him out of his stasis lock. Ratchet was recording what Bumblebee saw though, and because they had the cure, Arcee disconnected Bumblebee and GroundBridged back to base. However, Megatron's spark had left his body and escaped into Bumblebee's... {{storylink|Sick Mind}}

[[Image:OutOfHisHead-evileye.jpg|left|thumb|250px|He is no longer the boy you once knew, [[Obi-Wan Kenobi|Obi-Wan]].]]
Bumblebee began to experience visions of Megatron, causing him to stop dead during a basketball game with Bulkhead. After Megatron forced him to crush one of Ratchet's devices, Bumblebee told Ratchet about the visions, and Ratchet induced a power down to give Bumblebee's mind time to recover. Bumblebee reactivated, under the control of Megatron, and, retrieving a piece of Dark Energon from an old battlefield, bridged to the Decepticon warship over the Arctic. Although Ratchet and Raf tried to stop him, even managing to get Bumblebee to reassert control for a few moments, Bumblebee successfully brought Megatron back online and transferred his mind back to his body. Free of Megatron's influence, Bumblebee beat a hasty retreat with Ratchet and Raf. Later at base, Ratchet checked Bumblebee was completely free of Megatron, and the small Autobot thanked Raf for coming to help him. {{Storylink|Out of His Head}}

After a Dark Energon signature was detected, Optimus took a team including Bumblebee to investigate. They instead found Starscream trying to resurrect Skyquake. During the ensuing conflict, the Autobots discovered their human friends had followed them to the battlefield, and the three kids were caught in a freak GroundBridge accident, causing them to disappear.The Autobots returned to base to try and locate their friends, but it wasn't until Bumblebee suggested trying to ring the kids that they found Miko's cellphone, and the kids were able to send a text to it. Ratchet subsequently engineered a portal to rescue the kids from the other dimension they'd become trapped in. {{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}

When Breakdown was captured by MECH, Bumblebee and the others were more than happy to leave them to it, but Optimus insisted that they rescue the Decepticon to avoid Cybertronian technology falling into MECH hands. The team arrived in [[Kamchatka Peninsula]] and Bumblebee spotted some vehicle tracks, but they opted to follow the energon signal Ratchet had detected instead. After they escaped the bomb that the trace led them to, the team tracked down Bulkhead in time to chase off Starscream and some Vehicons. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}}

Arcee and Bumblebee were in the middle of a fight with some Vehicons when Arcee got a call informing her she had to be in Jack's garage ASAP. After checking if Bumblebee could handle it, Arcee left. Evidently he was able to, as he was later in the Autobot base when Jack and Arcee turned up with [[June Darby]]. {{storylink|Crisscross}}

[[Image:Partners-BeepunchesAirachnid.jpg|thumb|250px|Booya!]]
Bumblebee was part of the team that investigated the wreck of a crashed [[Harbinger|Decepticon ship]] and found Airachnid and Starscream. He guarded the bound Starscream while the others decided what to do with the Decepticon. Prime, Bulkhead and Bumblebee went to check out the rear half of the ship, crashed some distance away, and were ambushed by Airachnid who had found an experimental weapon named the [[Immobilizer]]. She froze Prime and Bulkhead, but Bumblebee managed to trick her by kicking up a dust cloud with his guns, and then pretending to be frozen after she fired the Immobilizer into it. Once she turned her back, he crept up and sucker punched her before blasting the Immobilizer. After she fled, Bumblebee went back to find Arcee, and interrupted her when she was about to offline Starscream. They returned the pieces of Immobilizer to base, along with Bulkhead and Optimus, and Ratchet was able to repair the device and unfreeze their comrades. {{storylink|Partners}}

Bumblebee accompanied Prime and Arcee as they tried to retrieve a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] before the Decepticons did. Ultimately the Decepticons made off with the cylinder, and later Bumblebee listened as Ratchet told them the cylinder's contents had ended up in Bulkhead's brain, though the Autobots were excited to find that the equations being scrawled by Bulkhead were a set of formula for synthetic energon. Unfortunately it later turned out that the data was eating Bulkhead's brain. Bumblebee and Arcee accompanied Optimus on an unsuccessful attempt to get the cylinder back from Megatron, and they ended up fighting a bunch of Vehicons. Later they came to Miko and Bulkhead's aid to save the pair from Knock Out and Breakdown, and were present when Miko managed to rouse the comatose Bulkhead with her guitar. {{storylink|T.M.I.}}

During a mission to stop Knock Out and Breakdown who were transporting energon, Bumblebee, Prime and Bulkhead were separated from Arcee. They caught up to find that Ratchet had already dealt with the Vehicons who'd been attacking Arcee, and they returned to base where Ratchet revealed he'd taken the synthetic energon he'd been working on. Ratchet, amped up on the substance, insisted on going on their next mission, which meant Bumblebee got left at base operating the GroundBridge. The other Autobots returned minus Ratchet, who had gone to tackle Megatron on his own. Once they'd gotten a fix on Ratchet's signal, they left Bumblebee at base again. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}

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Bumblebee was taking Raf to play with Raf's remote-control car when he was called on to join the battle at a military base. Unfortunately Megatron found them before he could drop Raf off, and Bumblebee was hit by a blast from Megatron's cannon. Though Bumblebee himself was mostly unaffected, Raf was gravely injured. Bumblebee arrived at the battle and had to be restrained from attacking Megatron so he and Arcee could take Raf back to base. Bumblebee watched helplessly as Ratchet and June Darby tried to save the boy. At one point, the frustration became too much, and he knocked a chunk out of the wall with his fist, but Arcee talked him down, and eventually Ratchet worked out that an energon infusion would save Raf. Bumblebee gave some of his own energon for the procedure, which was ultimately successful. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}}

After the other Autobots saved Optimus from Megatron, Bumblebee bridged them back to base. June decided to take Raf to the hospital, and didn't intend to bring him back, so Bumblebee had to sadly watch them drive from the base. When it transpired that the Dark Energon volcano was causing global disasters, he went to find June and Raf, and managed to save them from a tornado by grabbing the front end of their car. After he returned to base with them, the assembled Autobots and humans worked out that [[Unicron]] was at the center of the Earth. He and the other Autobots began investigating the sites of the earthquakes Unicron had generated. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Though Optimus ordered the other Autobots to remain at base, Bumblebee, Arcee and Bulkhead joined him anyway. They fought increasingly larger stone Unicrons, until they encountered a huge one which Bumblebee thought might be the real thing but Prime told him wasn't. He and Bulkhead zoomed behind it to try and blast it, but it knocked them both aside as if they were nothing. To their surprise, help came in the form of Megatron who blasted the giant before it could crush Prime, and offered to help them fight Unicron. When Optimus gave the trio the choice of whether to accompany him and Megatron to Earth's core, Bumblebee opted to go for Raf's sake. He, Arcee and Bulkhead greeted Megatron to the Autobot base by aiming their guns at him. Before long, they stepped through the GroundBridge once again, this time into Earth's core. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

As they made their way through Unicron's internals, they encountered [[Unicron's antibodies|antibodies]] which aggressively attacked them. When during the fight Bulkhead almost fell to his doom, Bumblebee grabbed his arm and held him long enough for Optimus to help. He, Bulkhead and Arcee remained outside Unicron's spark chamber to hold off the antibodies, but after Unicron's defeat, they entered to find Optimus had lost his memory. The trio had to GroundBridge back to base without their leader. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}
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===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
Bumblebee took part in the testing of Ratchet's newly developed [[Safe]]. After Bulkhead uncovered a nuke which attracted the attention of some Vehicons, Bumblebee, Optimus and Arcee went out to deal with the 'Cons. As Bumblebee knocked the Vehicons into the air, Optimus and Arcee blasted them, though Bumblebee was less than happy with the arrangement as he wanted to get to shoot them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.1|The Safe and the Failsafe}} Optimus took the other Autobots, including Bumblebee, on a trip to [[Valley of Fire State Park]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

Bumblebee was playing video games with Raf when Fowler reported that the Decepticons had commandeered a [[Yamal|nuclear-powered ship]] near [[Antarctica]]. Optimus, Bumblebee and Ratchet GroundBridged to the ship, but on arrival Ratchet was knocked out by Starscream's [[static lance]]. Bumblebee attacked the Decepticon, dodging a swipe of the lance and then delivering a kick. Once he had possession of the lance, Bumblebee threw it to Optimus, who used it to defeat Megatron. After guiding the ship to its destination, the trio returned to base, which had been turned into an ice rink for some reason. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

Raf and Bumblebee stopped off at [[Plug and Play]] to pick up Raf's copy of ''[[Invasionauts II]]''. Later at the base, Bumblebee found that Raf had let a bunch of Vehicons into the base, and was about to shut the [[GroundBridge]] down, when Raf stopped him. Raf, who had been temporarily hypnotised by the game, instead shut the bridge down in a way that sucked the remaining Vehicons back through and kept the location of the base concealed from the enemy. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor'': [[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English), [[Renato Novara]] (Italian)

[[Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|The time has come and so have I... I'll laugh last 'cause you came to die.]]
During the Decepticons siege of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon City]], Bumblebee volunteered to be a message courier when communications became unreliable. Bumblebee was searching for the one called [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] when he was caught by a pair of Decepticons, only to be saved by Optimus and [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]. Informing Optimus of the death of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Ratchet to a command center where they were contacted by [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]], who was leading the aerial counterattack and wanted Zeta to activate the [[planetary gun]]s. After informing Jetfire of Prime's death, Bumblebee helped Optimus and Ratchet make their way to the orbital defenses control room, where they activated the guns. Their next stop was the [[Decagon]], where they could reestablish communications and coordinate Iacon's defense. They hit serious Decepticon resistance, including several [[Decepticon war machine]]s, but ultimately, with help from Jetfire and [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]], the three made their way to the Decagon, where they faced the last obstacle: [[Air Commander|Sky Commander]] [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. Beating the traitorous Seeker, Bumblebee witnessed a desperate communication from Zeta Prime, who was being held in the [[Kaon]] [[Kaon Prison Complex|Prison Complex]]. Optimus resolved to rescue Zeta, and Bumblebee accompanied him.

[[Image:WFC_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"Autobots... [[Johnny Yong Bosch|It's Morphin' Time?"]]]]
Bumblebee, Optimus, and [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] allowed themselves to be captured raiding supplies outside Kaon, and taken to the prison within the city. [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] ordered them taken to recycling. Bumblebee didn't think that sounded bad, until Sideswipe told him to consider ''what'' they were recycling. As they made their way through the prison, Bumblebee's horror grew, until he was in a near panic when they placed against the firing wall. Fortunately, [[Air Raid (Prime)|Air Raid]] finally arrived and killed the [[Heavy Soldier]]s about to execute them. Air Raid was forced to let himself be captured to let the others escape. Finally finding some weapons, the three made their way to a [[wall crawler]] and descended into the prison. Bumblebee asked if this was good or bad, and Optimus replied that it was purely a matter of perspective, while Sideswipe said he was enjoying himself. Soon, they reached a room where Megatron revealed that he had allowed Zeta's message to be broadcast simply to lure Optimus into a trap. After they fought off some Decepticons, Megatron simply teleported them to a prison cell without their weapons. Fortunately, Optimus managed to break the wall with his axe, freeing them. Optimus then explained he could not open the other prisoners' cells, despite Bumblebee's pleas. Heading to retrieve Air Raid, the three Autobots rescued the flier, who took them to the control which would open all the prison's hard locks. Unfortunately, Zeta was trapped under the facility, so the control wouldn't release him. While Air Raid took the freed Autobots back to Iacon, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Sideswipe underground to free Zeta, racing through the caverns as the Decepticons blew out the ground. Reaching Zeta Prime's cell, Optimus, Bumblebee, and Sideswipe had to fight through Soundwave's minions to rescue the Autobot leader, but Soundwave stole some of Zeta's life energy and fled, killing the Prime. Taking his body back to Iacon, Bumblebee and Sideswipe bore witness to the [[Autobot High Council]] declaring that Optimus was now Optimus [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], leader of the Autobots.

During the evacuation of Cybertron, Megatron used Trypticon Station to fire on the Autobots' escape pods. After the Aerialbots destroyed Trypticon's conversion cog and sent him plummeting to the planet's surface, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus Prime and Ironhide to look for the crash site. Once Trypticon was found to still function, Bumblebee assisted in fighting him, overloading his shoulder cannons with energon batteries and destroying his heat vents. After greatly damaging Trypticon, Oprimus Prime declared Trypticon had lost and knocked him into an energon lake with his axe. Afterward, Bumblebee was present at the unveiling of the Ark, where he reminded Optimus Prime that Megatron was "still out there". {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' Johnny Yong Bosch (English)
{{quote|Watch out, Decepticons! I'm kinda a big deal!|Bumblebee, making you glad he can't talk in the cartoon.}}
[[Image:WFCDS Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|89px|Small, but noisy.]]
When a distress call from Zeta Prime was received by the Autobots, they sent Bumblebee to find Optimus so they could repair the communications system. Bumblebee and Optimus were seen battling Decepticons together by an Autobot rookie when he arrived at the Autobot base. When Optimus was later disabled by [[laser guard]]s, Bumblebee was instrumental in reviving him, and helped him defeat [[Dirge (WFC)|Dirge]]. After the Autobots retook [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Bumblebee exploded verbally at Ironhide, complaining that they'd already lost the war. Optimus told him that that attitude was just what Megatron wanted.

Prime's transmissions led the Autobots to infiltrate Kaon Prison, a place Bumblebee found terrifying to the point where Ironhide had to try and calm him and Optimus told them both to quiet down. They eventually found Zeta Prime, in time for their leader to expire. After Optimus was made the new Prime, the Autobots tried to enlist the help of [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] and [[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]]. Bumblebee slyly goaded Grimlock into challenging Optimus to a contest, however instead the Autobots ended up rescuing Swoop who'd been kidnapped by the Decepticons. The Autobots were forced to venture down to Cybertron's core to disable the Dark Energon corruptors, so that Cybertron's core could begin repairing itself, however the planet was left unable to sustain Transformer life.

As the Autobots began to evacuate in arks, Trypticon station began firing on them. Optimus prepared to take a team to the station to attack it from the inside, and Bumblebee was the first to volunteer to go along. They infiltrated the station and destroyed its power core, causing it to plunge from orbit. To the Autobots' surprise, the station transformed into a monster which Bumblebee found terrifying, but he still took part in the battle to destroy it. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
:''Voice actor'': Johnny Yong Bosch (English), [[Renato Novara]] (Italian)

In order to find out more about "Trypticon", Bumblebee and Ironhide were ordered to infiltrate a Decepticon datacore and extract the info stored inside it. Looking for a back way in, Ironhide uncovered a transit shaft, but it was too small for him to reconnoiter. Splitting up, Bumblebee took the shaft while Ironhide circled around to find another way in. Inside the datacore, they retrieved the intel on Trypticon, but were unable to escape without being noticed. The ruckus they raised in Kaon caught Megatron's attempt, and he arrived to fell both Autobots before they made it out of the city-state. Megatron subjected Bumblebee to a neural scanner to forcibly extract Autobot secrets from his mind. Bumblebee struggled to resist the scanner, but still unwillingly gave up some intel before Ironhide broke them both free. They eventually made it out of Kaon in one piece, thanks in part to the air support provided by Air Raid.

After the power supply was cut off to Trypticon from the Geosynchronous Energy Bridge, the Autobots began to prep supplies for their evacuation of the planet. On one such supply convoy, Bumblebee ran defensive reconnaissance to protect the convoy from Decepticon attack. Bumblebee blamed himself for allowing the decepticons to access his mind using the neural scanner, and was extra dedicated to the mission in his effort to redeem himself, even if only in his own eyes. He uncovered an ambush plot on the roadway, and alerted Optimus to the threat. Taking point, he intervened on several other ambush attempts along the way.

After Trypticon Station fell to Cybertron's surface and revealed itself as a gi-normous transforming creature, Bumblebee joined Optimus Prime and Ironhide in racing to the crash site to finish him off. They were separated during the journey, and had to fight through multiple Decepticon vanguards before even reaching Trypticon. Eventually, it was the combined firepower and teamwork of the Autobot forces that brought down the dangerous dinosaur. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}
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===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===

[[Image:FOC-GameInformerPrimeBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Oh my God, they killed Kenny! You bastards!]]
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He stars in ''Tron 3.0.'']]
*'''Cybertronian Bumblebee''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)
:*''Accessories: '' handgun
: Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Bumblebee transforms from a yellow and black robot into a "Cybertronian courier mode." His toy comes with a handgun and features two wrist-mounted flip-out blades. The handgun (described in the packaging only as "weapon") can be stored inside his rear bumper in either robot or vehicle mode. Bumblebee's head appears to have [[Light-piping]]. However his eyes are painted over in blue, thus rendering the gimmick neutered. Due to the nature of his design, his legs are generally loose at the mid-thigh transformation joint.
:Bumblebee is part of the first wave of ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronian [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates in the United States via [[Toys"R"Us]].

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[United (toyline)|United]]'' [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#United|Bumblebee Cybertron Mode]] and [[retool]]ed into ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] and ''United'' [[Cliffjumper (G1)#United|Cliffjumper Cybertron Mode]]. In fact, Bumblebee's instructions depict him with Cliffjumper's head, revealing the retool before it was officially announced.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/GenerationsBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Cybertronian Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TRURageOverCybertronCybertronianBumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|The Grid. A digital frontier. I tried to picture clusters of information as they moved through the computer.]]
*'''Rage over Cybertron''' (Multipack, 2011)
:*''Accessories'': handgun

:A [[redeco]] of Cybertronian Bumblebee with most of the original version's black plastic changed to gray, clear blue headlights and rims, a red tint for the windows, most of the red paint details changed to blue and additional blue circuitry paint details resembling the "overshield" effect from the ''War for Cybertron'' game, available in a [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]] three-pack with redecos of Cybertronian Optimus Prime and Cybertronian Megatron.
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===Prime: First Edition===
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*'''Bumblebee and Arcee, Includes Raf Esquivel and Jack Darby''' (NYCC 2011 exclusive)
:[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] is a [[redeco]] of Deluxe Class Bumblebee (see below) as a New York taxicab and comes with a pink [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] and NY-themed [[Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel]] figurines. They were sold exclusively at New York Comic-Con 2011.
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[[Image:Primetoy-BumblebeeDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Pirates radio clips ''and'' Jazz's transformation scheme.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' ("First Edition" Deluxe Class, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Arm-mounted weapon, stand

: Part of the first wave of "First Edition" ''Prime'' figures, this Deluxe-sized incarnation of Bumblebee transforms into a yellow muscle car. An arm-mounted blaster can be pegged into either of his forearms or stowed underneath the vehicle mode. As with other "First Edition" ''Prime'' figures, he comes with a cardboard display stand which sits at the bottom of the packaging.
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===Rescue Bots===
[[Image:RescueBots Bumblebee toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Dear God, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|they're]] [[Bumblebee (Animated)|crossbreeding!]]]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (2011)
:Bumblebee transforms into a yellow muscle car which presumably can be used by the humans in the rescue team to speed to problem sites, while staying within the speed limit, of course. Tugging either end of the vehicle will [[autotransformation|autotransform]] him back into robot mode.
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[[Image:RescueBots Garage Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Bumblebee enjoys hiding underneath cars that look like him.]]
*'''Bumblebee Rescue Garage''' (2011)
**''Accessories:'' Bumblebee, Axel Frazier
:The [[Bumblebee Rescue Garage]] comes with a smaller Bumblebee toy not unlike an [[Robot Powered Machines|RPM]] or [[Speed Stars]] toy in function. Standing the vehicle on end reveals Bumblebee's robot mode embossed on its underside. The back of Bumblebee's car mode also has a cavity in which the included Axel Frazier figure can ride.
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===Prime: Robots in Disguise===
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*'''Bumblebee''' (Revealer, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' 2 arm-mounted weapons
: Part of the first wave of "Robots in Disguise" ''Prime'' figures, this is a seemingly entirely-new Bumblebee figure, apart from the "First Edition" version, though it shares some engineering.

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*'''Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

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*'''Starscream vs. Bumblebee''' (2012)

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*'''Bumblebee''' (Weaponizer, 2012)
**''Accessories:''

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*'''Bumblebee Sword''' (Micron, 2012)

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==Merchandise==
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*'''Bumblebee Ion Blaster''' (2012)

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==Notes==
* [[Alex Irvine]] wrote the short story ''[[Bumblebee at Tyger Pax]]'', expanding on how Bumblebee lost his vocoder in ''Exodus''.
* [[Jeff Kline]] said why Bumblebee lost his voice will be revealed in season two of ''Prime'',<ref>[http://collider.com/roberto-orci-jeff-kline-interview-transformers-prime/75039/ Collider interview]</ref> though [[Duane Capizzi]] broke the suspense when he said it would be for the same reason as ''Exodus''.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/bonus-q--a-with-transformers-prime-creators---answered-171430/ TFW Q&A]</ref>
*In the end credits for WFC, Bee drives up, and '''HALF''' of the Autobots get out. Weird.
* Bumblebee's [[license plate]] in "[[Speed Metal]]" is "'''936 SOH'''".

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Bumblebee''' (バンブルビー ''Banburubī'')

==References==
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Zado

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:''Zad is a [[Decepticon]]-allied [[Minicon#Aligned|Minicon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

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'''Zad''' (ザド ''Zado'') is a li''za''r''d'' that transforms into an axe weapon.

==Toys==
===Prime===
*'''Zad''' (Micron, 2012)

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Peaceman

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:''Peaceman is an [[Autobot]] [[Minicon#Aligned|Minicon]] from the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)| Prime]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Prime-toy PeacemanWeb.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Maybe it should be "Pieceman".]]

'''Peaceman''' (ピースマン ''Pīsuman'') helps the Autobots with his ability to go choppy-choppy. He's part of a group of Minicons known as the [[Arms Micron]]s, due to their melee-weapon alternate modes.

==Toys==
===Prime===
*'''Autobot Peaceman''' (Arms Micron, [[December 28|12-28]]-[[2011|11]])

: Peaceman is a [[redeco]] of [[Chopster]], transforming into a double-bladed battle-axe that can be held by any figure with a reasonably deep [[5mm post|5mm post-hole]] in their hand. He was only available as part of the ''Transformers: Prime'' "Arms Micron Present Campaign", with the purchase of 3000 yen's worth of ''Prime'' "First Edition" toys at Japanese [[Toys"R"Us|Toys"R"Us]] stores on December 28, 2011.

: Though his instructions (likely) do not mention it, as a Chopster redeco he also has a mounted-artillery-piece configuration, as well as an "armor mode", both of which use his [[Powerlinx]] socket as mounting points. Since no ''Prime'' figures really make use of Powerlinx plugs, obviously these modes don't work so well with those toys.

: This mold was also used to make [[Razorbeam]].

==Notes==
* Peaceman is named for the [[Targetmaster]] [[Peaceman (Headmasters)|Peaceman]].
* Peaceman is also one of several Japanese toys to have the "Autobot" prefix attached to his name for reasons we haven't yet figured out.

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Optimus Prime (WFC)

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:''Optimus Prime is the leader of the [[Autobot]]s from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:PrimeOptimus.jpg|thumb|300px|Megatron awakened within him a secret yearning. The slashfic writes itself.]]
The Cybertronian who would become '''Optimus Prime''' was once a simple data clerk, satisfied with his job. It wasn't until he heard of an outspoken gladiator named [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and his call for an upheaval of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s society that he realized he was dissatisfied with his lot in life- and that the oppressive [[caste system]] hindered the freedom of all the sentient beings on Cybertron. Little did he realize that his boss, the archivist [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]], knew of a secret potential within the data clerk, and that Cybertron's history was at a precipice. Once he and Megatron discovered they did not have as much in common as they once believed, the lowly data clerk was promoted by the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]] to be the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]].

Over the centuries, loss and war have led Optimus to appear stern and serious to most. But scratch the surface, and you'll find an individual who greatly cares for his fellow living beings, with a warmth and kindness his closet friends can rely on. You'll also find regret over the loss of a comrade to darkness, and the faintest glimmer of hope that he can be saved.

He is sometimes partnered with Chief [[Charlie Burns]].

{{bigquote|We will [[Theme song|wage our battle to destroy the evil forces of the Decepticons]] wherever it may take us. And one day, we will go home.|Optimus Prime|''[[Transformers: Exodus]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Like all Cybertronians, when Orion Pax emerged from the [[Well of All Sparks]], he was taught how to transform, to select a natural [[alternate mode]], and was put in a [[caste system|caste]]. At the [[Hall of Records]], Orion would read and index information from the [[Communication Grid]], but was forbidden to analyze. That was [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]]'s job, and the two became friends. Orion began monitoring Megatron's transmissions, and began a secret correspondence with him because he agreed with his beliefs. They had intense but friendly debates over the nature of free will and the dangerousness of their ideals, and Megatron suggested Orion learn how to fight for his beliefs. Orion began training with Jazz, learning to fire an [[ion blaster|ion-cannon]] and to fashion his arms into an [[energon-axe|axe]] and a [[Dual Energon Swords|sword]].

Orion made his first trip to [[Kaon]] to meet Megatron in person at his base. Megatron was the only gladiator who gave Orion a warm welcome. Terrorists began bombings in Megatron's name, and he made his first public announcement on the Grid, stating he was not responsible for the attacks and would bring the perpetrators to justice. Orion followed him up with a speech of his own. Orion trusted Megatron, believing if he were responsible for the attacks, he would have wanted to be associated with them. Later, when [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] took him to meet Megatron at an arena beneath the [[Observatory of Iacon]], Orion was shocked to see Jazz in attendance, and that Megatron had heard rumors about the bombings but did nothing to prevent them.

[[Image:War for Cybertron comic - Orion testimony.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Lookin' awful buff and armored for an insignificant young library clerk. One has to wonder if the [[Guilds of Cybertron|Guilds]] may have dropped the ball on this one.]]
When "[[Decepticon]]s" kidnapped [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]], Orion requested Alpha Trion arrange an audience with [[Autobot High Council|High Council]] for him and Megatron now that most Cybertronians. During their hearing in the [[High Council Tower]], Orion rigorously defended their ideals, even reviving the ancient philosophical phrase "[[Autobot]]s" to describe the autonomy his brethren sought. It was then Councilor [[Halogen (WFC)|Halogen]] declared Orion the new [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]: Optimus Prime. An outraged Megatron accused his brother of treachery, and then murdered Halogen. When Optimus ordered the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]] to not harm Megatron, Megatron declared Optimus had fallen into the trappings of power the High Council had foisted upon him, and those in attendance dispersed, with the planet forever divided into Autobots and Decepticons.

Optimus forgoed the first engagement of the war, allowing the Decepticons to take [[Fort Scyk]] so he would gain time to recruit more Autobots. Optimus learned from Jazz after the fall of Scyk that he would have to learn to not mourn every soldier. Optimus fought for the first time during the next battle, the siege of the [[Hydrax Plateau]]. The first Cybertronian he ever killed was a former industrial drone named [[Drixco]]. Afterwards Optimus confided to Alpha Trion that the act of killing alone made him feel he was on the wrong side. Despite the efforts of Optimus and [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] the Decepticons conquered the Hydrax Plateau. It was at the stalemate of [[Praxus]] that Optimus gained the indispensable allies [[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]] and [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]]. The first Autobot victory was at [[Kalis]], a vital area due to its fusion reactor that powered Iacon. Optimus, Jazz and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] worked together to bring down the monstrous [[Bruticus Maximus (WFC)|Bruticus Maximus]], but the battle was mostly won due to the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seeker]]s' absence. As Energon depleted, the war descended into a mere siege of Iacon lasting millions of cycles, and Optimus opted to eject the [[AllSpark]] itself into space: during this battle Optimus gained another great friend in [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]].

Following a lull in the war, the Decepticons began using [[Dark Energon]] and routed the Autobots, but Optimus wisely predicted it was an inefficient resource that would run out soon. To his horror, Megatron and Starscream infiltrated [[Teletraan-1]] to steal the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]], and although Teletraan-1 awakened the legendary [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]] to ferry the Chamber to safety, the Dark Energon-powered Decepticons overpowered the Autobots and used the Chamber to corrupt the [[Core]] of Cybertron and infested the planet with Dark Energon. During the battle, Megatron revealed he had killed Sentinel Prime below the High Council Tower to gain access to the Chamber. Afterwards Prowl picked up a message from Sentinel on the Grid, and Optimus, realizing he had not found Sentinel's body in Iacon, deduced Sentinel was alive. When Optimus, Jazz and Prowl rescued him from Kaon Prison, they found the city strangely deserted. Optimus believed Dark Energon was having a severe effect on Decepticon morale. When they found Sentinel, he was dying. He regretted his overlong reign as Prime, and that the High Council had made the right decision in appointing Optimus Prime. He finally told him he had to go to the Core and purge its corruption of Dark Energon.

After Sentinel's funeral in Iacon, where Optimus was officially appointed Prime after holding the de facto position for so long, he journeyed to the Core with Bumblebee and [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] and removed the Plasma Energy Chamber. It was then a voice from the Core told Optimus he was too late, and the Autobots would have to leave Cybertron as the planet healed itself. But it finally bestowed upon him the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the essence of [[Primus]], explaining that while Sentinel lived, he was still Prime, and that he had been unworthy of the Matrix. It told him that when the day came that they would return to Cybertron, the Core and the Matrix would restore the planet and Optimus would lead the Autobots in an "age of unimagined wonders". Afterwards, Optimus launched [[Ark (WFC)|Project Generation One]], to build a ship—that Jazz dubbed the ''Ark''—to take them to the stars, a plan some Autobots objected to.

But before their exodus, Optimus planned to fool Megatron by gathering every spaceworthy vessel and having them rendezvous at what was apparently the last remaining [[space bridge]] in orbit. Megatron ordered [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] fire on the ships, but Optimus ordered a fallback as he, Jetfire, Jazz, Ironhide, Prowl, Sideswipe and Bumblebee flew the ''[[Eight Track (WFC)|Eight Track]]'' to board the monster and knocked him from orbit by blasting his [[Spark]] containment field. Optimus's team returned to find the ''Ark'' ready at the Well of All Sparks, and bid goodbye to those—including Jetfire, Magnus and Omega—who stayed to fend off Trypticon as he transformed to attack. Optimus also bade farewell to Alpha Trion, who believed [[Vector Sigma]] would protect him when the rest of the planet would be unable to sustain life: it was then Optimus realized Alpha Trion was one of the [[Thirteen|thirteen original Transformers]].

Yet as the ''Ark'' took off the Decepticons overran Iacon and Megatron and his elite boarded Trypticon, who transformed into a ''Nemesis''-class cruiser and pursued the Autobots. Megatron used his and Orion's old frequency to inform Optimus that he would pursue him across the stars and eventually kill him. The ''Ark'' entered the last space bridge and emerged with the ''Nemesis'' gone. They were near a [[Milky Way|spiral galaxy]] and Prowl detected the AllSpark. Knowing the Matrix within would help them find a way home, Optimus vowed that the Autobots would continue to wage their battle across the stars. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

===''Exiles''===
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===''Prime'' comic===
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From [[Earth]], Optimus sent an encrypted message directing the Autobots to their new world. When [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] landed, Optimus and Bumblebee detected them and came to retrieve them. For Optimus to find them under attack from [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] was no matter, for Optimus crushed the air commander and sent his brawny accomplice running. Optimus picked up the wounded Arcee, and took her through a [[GroundBridge]] to his base for Ratchet to repair her, while informing Cliffjumper that while his journey was over, their battle was just beginning. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (comic)|Prime}}
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===''Prime'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Alfredo Martínez]] (Spain-Spanish), [[Wan-gyeong Seong]] (Korean), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian), [[Reiner Schöne]] (German), [[Blas Garcia]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Dariusz Odija]] (Polish)

[[Image:OneShallRise3-corresponding.jpg|left|thumb|300px|"We'll always be friends forever, won't we?"]]

In the waning years of the [[Golden Age]] of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Orion Pax was a clerk in the [[Iacon]] [[Hall of Records]]. His interests lay with the tales of ancient Cybertron history, but the more he learned about the past, the more he grew concerned about the present. There was a disparity in freedom among the classes of his race, and the ruling class was corrupt and all-powerful. In seeking a solution to this inequity, he found inspiration in the words of a gladiator named [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatronus]], and the two joined forces to end corruption and bring equality to the masses. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} Optimus and Megatron became close allies, almost like brothers. But soon Megatron's ideals would become corrupted, and the two would become bitter enemies. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

[[Image:OneShallRise3-cametobe.jpg|right|thumb|200px|If you squint I look sort of like this in ''[[Fall of Cybertron]].'' Okay, that's a lie.]]

Both Megatronus — now "Megatron" — and Orion Pax appeared before the [[High Council]], and Megatron stated it was his intention to overthrow the High Council by force and instate himself as the next [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]. But it was Orion's speech that drew their attention. Jealous, Megatron left angrily and began his conquest, which resulted in countless casualties and left the [[Core]] of Cybertron itself [[Dark Energon|poisoned]]. It was Orion's subsequent search for the Core that completed his transformation into Optimus Prime. The Core, the essence of their creator [[Primus]], relinquished the [[Matrix of Leadership]] into his chassis. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

During the war, Optimus encountered [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]] at the [[Battle of Technar]] when the Decepticon was sent by Megatron to kill him. {{storylink|Masters & Students}} After Cybertron was abandoned, Optimus Prime's [[Team Prime|elite team]] of Autobots eventually made their way to Earth, where they allied themselves with the [[United States of America|United States]] government. The Autobots were assigned [[William Fowler]] as their liaison, and provided an [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|abandoned missile silo]] as a base in exchange for keeping the Decepticon threat contained. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}}

[[Image:DarknessRising1-fairquestion.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Do you have your grandfather's glasses — er, wait.]]

Around three years later, Prime was out on the road when word reached him that [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] was facing down an entire contingent of Decepticons. Arriving to the battlefield too late, Prime delivered a eulogy for their fallen comrade. Soon after, some humans were caught up in a battle between the Autobots and Decepticons, and Optimus, knowing that they would now be targeted by the Decepticons, had them brought to the Autobot base. There, he told them about the Transformer war and assigned the Autobots to be their individual guardians. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} Presently, the apparent reactivation of Cliffjumper's lifesigns was detected by the Autobots, and they tracked it to a Decepticon Energon mine, where they discovered that Megatron had returned to Earth with Dark Energon, used to revive Cliffjumper as a zombie [[Terrorcon (Prime)|Terrorcon]]. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}} Realizing that Megatron's goal was to create an undead army, Optimus and Ratchet headed to the site of an ancient Transformer battleground on Earth, arriving just as Megatron used a sliver of Dark Energon to reanimate the corpses buried there into a Terrorcon legion. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}} Struggling against the detrimental effects of Dark Energon, the pair cut their way through the Terrorcons, but Megatron escaped before Optimus could get his hands on him.

[[Image:DarknessRising5-OptimusPrimeguns.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Pssst, Prime, your barrel openings are just painted detail.]]

Returning to base, Optimus was disappointed to find that [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] had let the kids go out into battle in his absence, but disturbing intel had been recovered in the process: the Decepticons were planning to use a [[space bridge]] to revive the dead of Cybertron with Dark Energon. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}} [[GroundBridge|GroundBridging]] to the Decepticon's space bridge in Earth orbit, Optimus faced Megatron down in a one-on-one battle while the other Autobots sabotage the bridge, causing it to explode and destroy the Terrorcons, and apparently, Megatron himself. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}

Despite the victory, Optimus regretted not having been able to turn Megatron to the path of peace. When Decepticon activity was detected in an area of the desert, Optimus and Bumblebee investigated, discovering that Starscream had located and reactivated Skyquake. Optimus tried to appeal to the Decepticons to consider a truce now that Megatron had gone, but Skyquake was determined to carry out his late master's wishes and terminate Prime. Optimus and Bumblebee found themselves forced to battle and destroy Skyquake, but they respectfully buried their fallen foe, and Prime lamented the circumstances. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

[[Image:Scrapheap-cloudsbreak.jpg|left|thumb|250px|"Okay, ''now'' I'm ready to call Bulkhead fat."]]
After Bulkhead and Bumblebee found a pod in the [[Arctic]] and brought it back to base, Optimus and Arcee went back to the Arctic to check for clues as to the pod's origin. After some time searching, the temperature sensors Ratchet had given them went off, so Optimus attempted to contact base, only to find the comms were down. The pair sought shelter, but as their temperatures slowly dropped, things looked grim. Just as they were losing hope, the GroundBridge opened and ejected Bulkhead and the swarm of [[Scraplet]]s that had been causing havoc at base. The three Autobots were subsequently able to return home, and Optimus paid tribute to their human friends who had helped eliminate the Scraplets. {{storylink|Scrapheap (episode)|Scrapheap}}

[[Image:Convoy-Optimustrailer.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"This here's Rubber Duck and I'm about to put the hammer down."]]
When Bulkhead's old buddy [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] arrived on Earth, Optimus excused himself from the welcome party and went out on patrol, since "Primes don't party". As such, he missed all the fun when Wheeljack turned out to be a [[Makeshift (Prime)|Decepticon spy]], but he stuck around for the second part to welcome the real Wheeljack, telling the visiting Autobot that he'd always be welcome on Earth. {{storylink|Con Job}} Not long after, when the Autobots were contracted by Fowler to help transport the experimental [[Dynamic Nuclear Generation System]], Optimus carried the device in a [[trailer]] to the rendezvous point, where it was transferred to a train. Unfortunately, the D.N.G.S. became a target for both the Decepticons and the human terrorist organization [[MECH]], and Prime was forced to have his Autobots break cover to fight [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicons]] while he dispatched MECH's leader [[Silas]]. A poor loser, Silas took out the train track ahead and Optimus went into [[maximum overdrive]], grabbing the train and physically halting it. {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

[[Image:Optimuselectrocuted.jpg|thumb|250px|left|[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] were right, I should've gone for this earlier!]]
Tracking an [[Energon Harvester]] to a museum, Optimus Prime and the Autobots were attacked by new Decepticons arrivals [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]], and Prime got the business end of Knock Out's [[Energon prod]], taking him out of the fight long enough for Soundwave to make off with the Harvester. Optimus led the Autobots in following the villains to Greece, and stopped their attempts to harvest an Energon seam there. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}} Prime had another clash Knock Out soon after: when he discovered that Arcee and [[Jack Darby|Jack]] had disobeyed his orders against using powers for personal gain by participating in illegal street races, Optimus intervened, and helped rescued a [[Vince|captive human]] from Knock Out's clutches by ripping the Decepticon's door off. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

[[Image:SickMind-OPinfected.jpg|thumb|250px|right|I woke up late one morning with a black eye. Why the heck does everyone think I'm sick? I could've just been punched in the face. Really hard. ]]
While investigating a crashed Autobot spacecraft, Optimus Prime's hopes of helping any survivors were dashed when the craft turned out to be a corpse-strewn plague ship from which he contracted [[Cybonic plague]], a pathogen engineered by Megatron himself. Arcee and Bumblebee boarded the ''Nemesis'' in search of a cure, and, discovering that Megatron was still alive and in stasis, Bumblebee entered his mind via a [[cortical psychic patch]]. In his dreamworld, Megatron was constantly killing imaginary Optimus Primes, and Bumblebee played on Megatron's desire to kill Optimus himself, rather than have him succumb to the plague, to convince him to hand over the cure. {{storylink|Sick Mind}} After getting back up to full health, Optimus led the Autobots to the Arctic, where Starscream was using a heat ray to melt a glacier in order to access an energon deposit. Prime boldly ploughed through the weapon's beam in order to get close enough to destroy it, but the resultant explosion left him helpless before Starscream—until he was saved at the last moment when the resurrected Megatron arrived to haul Starscream away for punishment. {{Storylink|Out of His Head}}

[[Image:Shadowzone HappymusPrime.jpg|left|thumb|250px|:D]]

Optimus Prime led the Autobots in investigating a Dark Energon energy signature, and found Starscream using the substance to resurrect Skyquake. Fortunately, the additional power conveyed upon Starscream by the Dark Energon was not enough to prevent Optimus Prime from blasting his arm clean off. Presently, a GroundBridge accident catapulted Jack, Miko and [[Raf Esquivel|Raf]] into an alternate dimension, and when the Autobots opened a portal to bring them back, Prime took the Autobots back to the battlefield to protect them from Starscream. {{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}} Optimus's inimitable compassion even extended to Breakdown, when he was captured by the forces of MECH and Optimus determined they would rescue him. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}} Later, Optimus was at the Autobot base when Jack and Arcee brought [[June Darby|Jack's mom]] in to introduce her to everyone. {{storylink|Crisscross}} He was out on a scouting mission with Bumblebee when Ratchet detected a strange magnetic signature that turned out to be a [[Polarity gauntlet]], {{storylink|Metal Attraction}} and also missed out on an adventure in a collapsed mine, but when he heard that Jack had shown mercy to an immobilized Megatron, he was proud of the boy. {{storylink|Raf's Notes#Note15|Raf's Notes}}

[[Image:Partners-StiffOptimus.jpg|thumb|right|250px|We've replaced Optimus with a statue. Think anyone will notice?]]
Exploring the wreck of a crashed [[Harbinger|Decepticon ship]], Optimus Prime and his team fell victim to [[Airachnid]], who paralyzed Prime and Bulkhead with the ship's cargo: an experimental [[Immobilizer]]. Prime would have wound up handed over to Megatron and mounted on the bow of the ''Nemesis'' if not for Bumblebee, who saw the villainess off, and Ratchet, who repaired the damaged device and unfroze the pair. {{storylink|Partners}}
[[Image:StrongerFaster-RatchetPrime.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Who will join me? Who will become stronger, faster, more insubordinate?]]
Lost Cybertronian technology continued to cause problems for Prime and the Autobots when a formula for [[Synthetic Energon]] was beamed from a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] into Bulkhead's mind, putting his life at risk. Refusing to sacrifice Bulkhead despite the advantage the formula would give the Autobots, Prime petitioned Megatron for the return of the cylinder so they could extract the data. In exchange, he would hand it over to the Decepticons, but Megatron refused and destroyed the device after a battle. The formula was subsequently beamed out of Bulkhead's mind into space, {{storylink|T.M.I.}} but when Ratchet proceeded to generate a batch of "SynthEn" and was driven mentally unstable after testing it on himself, he and Optimus came to blows, and Optimus confined him to base. Ratchet instead took off to face Megatron, forcing Prime to lead a team into a Decepticon mine to rescue him. Cured of the SynthEn's effects, Optimus reminded Ratchet that he was a vital member of the team. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}

[[Image:PrimeEp23-PrimeMegatron.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Slap slap.]]

Believing that a prophecy in the [[Covenant of Primus]] was soon to come true and that Megatron could regard it as his destiny, Optimus Prime was finally forced to abandon any illusions of turning his old foe to the path of good after the Decepticon leader grievously wounded Raf during a battle over a power source for the villain's new space bridge. Optimus boarded the ''Nemesis'' and called Megatron out for a one-on-one battle that he vowed would be their last. The two ancient enemies fought before a volcano, and Optimus managed to fell Megatron, but just before he could deliver the killing blow, the volcano erupted with Dark Energon. Megatron experienced an increase in power, and turned the tide, {{storylink|One Shall Fall}} but thankfully, the intervention of the other Autobots saved Optimus's life. Retreating to base to review this new nightmare scenario, Optimus recounting the tale of [[Primus]], [[Unicron]] and the [[Thirteen]] to the gathered humans and told them he believed that Earth had formed around the slumbering form of Unicron, who was now in the process of awakening. Examining areas of the planet struck by earthquakes at the moment of the eruption, Optimus soon found himself confronted by Unicron himself, in an avatar formed from rock and stone. He prostrated himself before the Chaos Bringer and tried to plead for the lives of the billions of [[human]]s who dwelt on Earth, but Unicron considered them parasites and attacked Prime with wave after wave of avatars. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

[[Image:OneShallRise2-shake.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Kiss kiss.]]

He ordered the other Autobots ''not'' to come to his aid, so naturally they came anyway. After fighting increasingly larger Unicrons, they came up against one that was too much for them. Just as it was about to step on Optimus, help came in the unlikely form of Megatron, who offered his services in eliminating Unicron and revealed that only the [[Matrix of Leadership]] held by Optimus could achieve that aim. The Autobots returned to base, where the others were horrified that Prime was intending to take up Megatron's offer, but he was resolute that all care would be taken to make sure it was a safe as possible. When Megatron stepped into the base, Optimus and the other Autobots welcomed him appropriately. Before they left on their mission, Optimus presented Jack with the key to the GroundBridge power supply. Optimus, Megatron and the Autobots were soon stepping through the GroundBridge to Earth's core, Unicron himself. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

As they moved through Unicron's internal structure, they came under attack from [[Unicron's antibodies|antibodies]]. Optimus and Megatron fought back to back, though Optimus took time out to rescue Bulkhead from falling. When they reach Unicron's spark chamber, Optimus and Megatron went inside, and, though the dark god possessed Megatron, Optimus unleashed the Matrix, apparently extinguishing Unicron's spark. However the price was high—Optimus's memory was lost and he believed himself to be Orion Pax. Megatron played along, and took him back to the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}
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===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
As the Decepticons slowly conquered Cybertron, Optimus knew they'd try to attack [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] and set up defences at the [[Iacon Energon Refinery]]. Sure enough, Megatron attacked with a small team of Decepticons but the Autobot gunners managed to take out all but Megatron. To Optimus's surprise, Megatron didn't abandon his men, instead rescuing them under heavy fire. When Optimus had the opportunity to take a shot, he hesitated and Megatron's team escaped. For that, Optimus took the blame and was even regarded as a traitor by some. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

Many years, Optimus's team had settled on [[Earth]]. After Ratchet somewhat apologetically unveiled the [[Safe]], Optimus told him to have more confidence in his work. When Bulkhead managed to uncover a hidden nuclear missile and a scouting party of Vehicons neared the base, Optimus, Arcee and Bumblebee went out to greet the Decepticons. While Bumblebee knocked the Vehicons into the air, Prime and Arcee blasted them. They reentered at the base in time to see Fowler arriving with some scientists, and Optimus had some stern words with their liaison about the mystery bomb and its intended purpose, insisting that Fowler take it with him when he left. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.1|The Safe and the Failsafe}}

During some downtime, Prime took the other Autobots and the kids to [[Valley of Fire State Park]]. At Miko's request, he told the story of his battle with Megatron in the Iacon Energon Refinery. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

On [[Christmas]], Fowler reported to Optimus that Megatron and Starscream had taken control of the [[Yamal|NS ''Yamal'']], a nuclear-powered Russian icebreaker. Leaving Arcee and Bulkhead in charge of the base, Optimus took the other Autobots to the ship and attacked Megatron. As Optimus fought Megatron, the Decepticon leader outlined his plan to detonate the ship's reactors with a [[static lance]]. Bumblebee managed to wrest the lance off Starscream and threw it to Optimus who used it to hit Megatron. Once the Decepticons had been dealt with, Optimus's team returned to the base, where they found it had been turned into an impromptu ice skating rink. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

Optimus was surprised to find the GroundBridge active and asked Bulkhead what the problem was. Bulkhead's denials were undermined by the Vehicons pouring through the bridge, and Optimus led the counter-attack. While Optimus and the others kept the Decepticons busy, Raf and Bumblebee managed to shut down the bridge. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}

{{spoiler|Transformers Comic issue 4.5|March 2, 2012}}
Optimus shared Jack's suspicions about some recently exploded schools, and had the Autobots check out the other schools in the area. Sure enough, the schools came under attack by [[MECH]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.5|School is... Out!}}
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===''Rescue Bots'' pack-in storybooks===
After [[Cody Burns]] helped [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] put out a fire that had threatened Fire Station Prime, Optimus Prime spoke to them through a screen, asking if Cody would join the Rescue Bots. Cody accepted. {{storylink|Prime Alert}}

===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English)
[[Image:RBoptimusprime.jpg|right|thumb|150px|[[Playskool]] is the right of all sentient beings.]]
Optimus Prime sent out a call to all Autobots to come to their new home on [[Earth]]. When a team of [[Rescue Bots]] arrived at a military base, Optimus met them there and gave them their new mission: to team up with the Burns family and help them keep [[Griffin Rock]] safe. After presenting them with vehicles to [[scanning|scan]], he introduced them to [[Charlie Burns]] and left them to get acquainted. {{storylink|Family of Heroes}}

The Rescue Bots had trouble learning to work with their new human friends, and they contacted Optimus to tell him as much, but he was confident that they and the humans would learn to work together. {{storylink|Under Pressure}}

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==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian), [[Alfredo Martínez]] (Spain-Spanish)

[[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeconcept.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Steroids are the right of all sentient beings.]]
In the waning days of the war for Cybertron, Optimus spotted a little yellow Autobot in trouble, and defeated the surrounding drone forces. [[Ratchet (Prime)| Ratchet]] arrived on the scene, and Optimus helped up the Autobot scout, who revealed his name was [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]. Bumblebee informed Optimus that the Decepticons had taken control of communication relays, so that the only way to contact Optimus was by messenger. He also informed Optimus that their leader, [[Sentinel Zeta Prime]], was dead. Optimus suspected [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s hand, and was informed by Bumblebee that the [[Autobot High Council]] had gone into hiding because of this. Optimus believed that the Council would emerge during a safer time, and formed a team with Bumblebee and Ratchet.

They drove to the [[Decagon]], where they found [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] battling the forces of [[Starscream (Prime)| Starscream]]. After assisting him in defeating Starscream's army, they confronted Starscream himself within the Decagon. After the trio combated and drove off Starscream, a hologram of Zeta Prime's face appeared in the center of the room, stating that he is being held in the [[Kaon]] prison complex. Optimus took Bumblebee and Sideswipe to the Kaon prison, allowing themselves to be captured so that they could infiltrate the facility. The Decepticons prepared to execute them, but [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] lent a hand so they could escape, though he himself was captured. While sneaking through the corridors, the three managed to free Air Raid, [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]], and others. They continued through the hallways, and finally located the room where Zeta is being held, only to face [[Soundwave (Prime)| Soundwave]]. The Decepticon cowered behind a force field, sending [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]], [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]], and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] out to fight for him, only venturing out to administer needed repairs to his minions. As Soundwave's energy became low, he attempted to drain Zeta Prime, only to be interrupted by Optimus, who took a shot meant for Zeta. Though Soundwave and his minions retreated, the damage was done, and Zeta Prime died before Optimus could free him.

Optimus brought Zeta's corpse to the site of the hiding High Council, where he lay the dead body in the center of the room. Optimus stated that the Autobots craved their guidance, but the Council stated that their mission was to choose the Primes, not to lead them. They then told him that Optimus himself is a Prime, and that he had changed the lives around him. Optimus was then told that Megatron had corrupted the core of Cybertron, and that he was the one that could remove this blight. He took this burden and responsibility, then was told by the Council that he was now Optimus ''Prime'', the last Prime.

[[Image:WFC-OptimusPrimeAltmode.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Welcome to the ''Twilight Zone'' Prime.]]
For a new mission, Optimus selected Ironhide and [[Warpath (WFC)|Warpath]], and the team ventured to the entrance of the core, where a corrupted [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]] was being tortured. After a prolonged battle, the Autobots defeated the torturers and freed Omega Supreme from the Dark Energon influence. Omega Supreme escaped, and the Autobots found some [[Space slug|space slugs]] to use as steeds. One long journey later, they reached the core and defeated a corrupted slug. Unfortunately the core itself had become contaminated, and informed Optimus as much. The only solution was for the core to reboot, which would take millions of years, during which the planet would be unusable, and Optimus realized that the Autobots would have to leave their home. Before shutting down, the core revealed the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which it installed inside Optimus Prime's chest.

Optimus arrived back at Iacon, where he ordered all Autobots to evacuate the planet. Megatron announced that everyone must stay or face destruction, and fired a massive cannon installed in the Dark Energon space station. Optimus Prime ordered his Air Commander [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]] to shut down the cannon with his team. They succeeded, and the station crashed into Iacon. Optimus, Bumblebee, and Ironhide discovered that the "space station" wasn't a space station at all: it was the giant Decepticon, [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]]. They managed to defeat the heavily-armed menace, who plunged into a pool of energon. The Autobots celebrated their victory, but noticed that ''they'' have to evacuate as well. Optimus revealed a massive starship they would use called the [[Ark (WFC)|Ark]], a ship still under construction that would allow them to take a part of Cybertron with them across the galaxy. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' Peter Cullen (English)
[[Image:WFCDS Optimus Prime.jpg|thumb|right|124px|Origamimus Prime]]
Optimus was a dock worker who found himself caught up in the war against the Decepticons. With the Decepticons on the hunt for the Omega Key, Zeta Prime sent Optimus and his team to protect the library, knowing he could count on his old friend. When Zeta Prime was later captured by the Decepticons, he attempted to contact Optimus. The data links keeping him in contact with the Autobots were severed, so Bumblebee tracked down Optimus at an Autobot base. Optimus subsequently rescued an [[Autobot rookie]] from Starscream, chasing the Decepticon off before joining up with Jetfire and destroying other intruders at the base. Optimus was felled by a [[laser guard]], but revived with the help of Jetfire and Bumblebee. They completed clearing the base by defeating [[Dirge (WFC)|Dirge]], and Optimus announced that the next step was to retake Iacon.

He and his team entered Decepticon-occupied Iacon and destroyed the Dark Energon corruptors, allowing them to get the Decagon's defense systems back online. While they waited for Zeta Prime to make contact again, Optimus reminded Bumblebee that they couldn't let Megatron win just by giving up. Zeta let them know that he was being held in Kaon Prison, and Optimus's team infiltrated the prison in search of him. After an encounter with [[Onslaught (WFC)|Onslaught]], they ran into Megatron himself, who set more Decepticons on them. When they eventually found Zeta Prime, their leader expired. Optimus returned his body to the High Council, who appointed Optimus the new Prime.

Optimus Prime attempted to solicit [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]]'s help. Grimlock challenged him to a fight to decide whether to join up, but [[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]]'s capture by Decepticons sent the Autobots off on a rescue mission instead. The Autobots tracked Swoop down to a Dark Energon laboratory on the outskirts of Iacon and freed him from Dark Energon contamination. Swoop's services were subsequently offered to the Autobots by Grimlock, who said he'd follow along to protect Swoop. Analysis of core samples by Jetfire and Ratchet indicated that they would need to disable to corrupters preventing it from repairing itself. To this end, Optimus's team traveled to the core and freed it after defeating [[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]].

Realising that the core needed time to repair itself, Optimus ordered the Autobots to evacuate the planet in Arks. He and his team ascended the space bridge to attack the Trypticon space station and take out its main power core. They escaped during the station's plunge towards Cybertron, but as it fell, it transformed. Optimus rallied his men against this new threat, leading the way to the crash site, where the Autobots confronted Trypticon. After the titan's downfall, Optimus and his men left Cybertron in search of a new source of energy. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
:''Voice actor:'' Peter Cullen (English), [[Marco Balzarotti]] (Italian)

Optimus Prime coordinated many of the Autobot campaigns during the war. He dispatched Ironhide and Bumblebee to retrieve a datacore of information about Trypticon from Kaon. He later coordinated the evac measures for Cybertron, personally guarding a supply convoy while Bumblebee ran point and ensuring the safe launch of an airlift whiel the Aerialbots prevented Seekers from taking potshots at it. He also sent the Aerialbots up to Trypticon Station itself when its orbital weapon systems began annihilating the Autobot ranks.

When Trypticon itself fell to Cybertron after the Aerialbot assault, it transformed into a tremendous warbot, and Optimus Prime raced out to meet it. Bumblebee and Ironhide accompanied Prime to the blast site, fighting through numerous Decepticon embankments to reach the monster. Trypticon himself proved to be an implaccable foe, and Optimus coordinated both ground-based flanking attacks and strafing runs by the Aerialbots. Eventually, the mighty menace went down, and Prime saluted Trypticon on his way to extinction. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Cullen]] (English)
[[Image:FOC-OptimusPrimetruckart.jpg|right|thumb|200px|]]
[[Image:FOC-GameInformerPrimeBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|"No, not in the chest, you guys! The throat! The throat!"]]
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{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|It's ''[[War Within]]'' but with fewer chinstraps and handvents.]]
*'''Cybertronian Optimus Prime''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)
:*''Accessories'': "blaster" rifle

: Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Optimus Prime transforms from a red, blue, and silver robot into an "armored truck mode." His rifle transforms as well, folding and plugging into the roof of the vehicle mode. The rifle can also peg into his forearms, and, in its compact configuration, can attach to his shoulders via peg holes on the backs of his front tires. The weapon in its compact configuration can also be stored on his robot mode back. Optimus has a stylized sculpted Autobot insignia on his back, as seen in the game, but it is obscured by [[kibble]].

: An undocumented transformation step includes flipping Optimus Prime's knees out in vehicle mode to form a back bumper with tail lights. Oddly, the toy itself and the cardbox art show Optimus Prime with four fingers on each hand, while in the video game Optimus Prime has 5 fingers. The vehicle mode pictured here is minimally mistransformed: The exhaust pipes have not been rotated to hide the indentations against the vehicle body. The instructions show the rifle being plugged in by its shorter peg, but the packaging depicts the rifle stored by its grip, which keeps the weapon higher off Prime's body, but is also more secure.

:Optimus Prime is part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronian [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates via [[Toys"R"Us]].

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#United|Optimus Prime Cybertron Mode]] and [[Darkside Optimus Prime (United)|Darkside Optimus Prime]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/GenerationsOptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm More information on Cybertronian Optimus Prime at TFU.info]''
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===Prime: First Edition===
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[[Image:Primetoy-OptimusPrimeMatrixofLeadership.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Step 1: Put Optimus Prime toy inside a wearable Matrix. Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit!]]
*'''Matrix of Leadership SDCC Optimus Prime''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Gun, magnet, dignity-removing wearable Matrix packaging

: Matrix of Leadership Optimus Prime is an exclusive to San Diego Comic-Con 2011. The toy comes in a packaging shaped like the [[Matrix of Leadership]], which the owner can wear around his neck, preferably at the convention itself, so passers-by can exclaim WHERE THE HELL DID YOU GET THAT and then try to get one themselves. The Matrix itself comes packaged in a box that is designed to look like Optimus Prime's chest, and opens accordingly. The chest window doors are sealed with a round magnet.

:The toy itself is an early release of the Deluxe Class Optimus Prime toy from the later "Entertainment Pack" set. There are some deco differences between this release and the later retail release; this version has gray windows instead of blue and is missing some of the silver deco on the helmet and the yellow paint on his lights. His midriff is also darker.
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[[Image:Primetoy-OptimusPrimeEP.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Can transform from truck mode to movie trailer narrator mode and back!]]
*'''Optimus Prime vs Megatron''' (5 figure gift set, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

: A Deluxe-sized Optimus Prime comes with a similarly-scaled [[Megatron (Prime)#EntertainmentPack|Megatron]] and PVC figurines of [[Jack Darby#EntertainmentPack|Jack Darby]], [[Miko Nakadai#EntertainmentPack|Miko Nakadai]], and [[Raf Esquivel#EntertainmentPack|Raf Esquivel]]. Optimus converts from robot mode to his truck mode. He comes with a gun than he can wield with his hands, as well as peg onto his hitch in vehicle mode, with different pegs for either configuration. Similarly to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Voyager Class toys 4|a previous Optimus Prime toy]], he features some [[Kibble#.22Faux-parts.22|faux-kibble]] in the form of his actual windshield chest being covered by sculpted panels featuring his characteristic windshield-chest.
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[[Image:Primetoy-OptimusPrimeVoyager.jpg|right|thumb|300px|And those side-view mirrors go to ''where'' on the truck mode?]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Voyager, 2011)
:''Accessories:'' "[[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] battle sword", "[[plasma cannon]]"
: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Prime]]'' "First Edition" Voyager-Class toys, Optimus Prime transforms into a truck, with a similar (but more complex) transformation to his previous Deluxe-Class toy, complete with a faux-kibble window-chest panel. He comes with a "Cybertronian battle sword" and a "plasma cannon", either of which can [[5mm post|peg]] into his hands. They are stored in vehicle mode by pegging them onto either the trailer hitch, or onto each peg-hole beside it, although the [[instructions]] tell [[you]] to nominally peg the sword facing forwards onto the hitch, with the cannon mounting onto one of the side pegs facing backwards. As with all "First Edition" toys, he features a cardboard stand.

: Amusingly, he features a ''second'' hitch with an equally ''usable'' peg-hole sculpted on his left leg, while he features sculpted side mirrors on the sides of his fake chest... even though the truck mode ''doesn't have'' side mirrors. Huh.

: He is minimally mis-transformed in-[[Packaging|package]] and in the [[stock photo]], as his shoulder guards aren't flipped open. His stock photography also shows his plasma cannon as being solid black, when the final cannon is black speckled with silver paint, with slightly more painted silver details on the tips of the barrels.

: His front leg panels don't tab very securely onto his legs, and adjusting his pivotable feet will inevitably result in the panels detaching. His roof and hood also have connection problems, with the tabs that connect the cab to the roof being painted, making the tabs slightly too thick and long and therefore preventing the roof from tabbing in completely, and with the clips holding the hood halves together being too small to actually allow it to hold together ''at all''. The results of both connection problems are unsightly gaps between the hood and cab, as well as between the hood halves.

:The Japanese release of this figure features slightly different colours for greater [[show accuracy]], including darker reds and blues, and a more metallic silver plastic.

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===Rescue Bots===
[[Image:RescueBots-toy_OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Admit it, you want one.]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (2011)
: Optimus Prime transforms from truck to robot in one easy step! Just [[Autotransformation|fold down his legs]] and he'll spring into action! (And then fold his toes up.)
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===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TRURageOverCybertronCybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Rage over Cybertron''' (Multipack, 2011)
:*''Accessories'': "blaster" rifle

:A redeco of Cybertronian Optimus Prime with a translucent red front section, additional (painted) "scratched paint" details, some red paint highlights either omitted or changed to yellow and additional yellow circuitry pattern detailing reminiscent of the jammed abilities/mode lock/EMP effect from the ''War for Cybertron'' game, available in a [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]] three-pack with redecos of Cybertronian Megatron and Cybertronian Bumblebee.

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===Prime: Robots in Disguise===
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[[Image:Cyberverse_commander_oprime.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Cyberverse Commander, 2012)
**'''Accessories''': 2 "battle cannons"
: This Cyberverse-scaled Optimus Prime is cast partly in translucent plastic so that the toy can be lit using the electronic lights featured in the larger playsets. He also comes with two translucent "battle cannon" weapons and a pack-in file card.

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[[Image:PrimeRIDtoy-PrimeVoyager.jpg|right|thumb|300px|The return of Laser Prime sorta!]]
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Powerizer, 2012)
**'''Accessories''': Gun and sword
: An entirely new <strike>Voyager Class</strike> Powerizer Optimus Prime features light-up electronics. A mostly translucent gun contains an LED which can mount either on the shoulder or be pegged into either of Optimus Prime's forearms; the light is activated when the gun's engineering expands [[MechTech]]-style. The forearms are translucent, doubling the lighting effect if the gun is placed in the holes in the arms. Unlike previous Voyager-size Mechtech weapons, the gun cannot be set to stay expanded. This means that Prime is forced to threaten Decepticons with a random block of parts, unless you want to use one hand to permanently unfold his weapon.

: Optimus is also equipped with an opaque sword that he holds in a normal fashion (he is also able to wield it two-handed), unlike his First Edition Voyager toy.

: This is the first Prime Optimus Prime figure released ''not'' to have fake windshield windows on his chest.

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*'''Optimus Prime''' (Weaponizer, 2012)
**'''Accessories''': 2 chainguns
: This <s>Leader Class</s> Weaponizer sized toy is equipped with two chainguns that can pop out of the hood of the vehicle mode, or be mounted on his shoulders in robot mode. <ref>[[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content/fmh-live-coverage-uk-toy-fair-2012-2737/ Live coverage of UK toy fair 2012!]]</ref>

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{{anchor|Minicon}}
*'''Optimus Prime Blaster''' (Micron, 2012)

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==Notes==
[[Image:TFPrimeOptimustruck.jpg|thumb|So, it hasn't got [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|flames]]. [[Ruined FOREVER|It's still not a flat nose truck.]]]]
*''Exodus'' and ''War for Cybertron'' are different continuities within the same "continuity family", so their difference on Optimus Prime's pre-Prime name is not a real contradiction in and of itself. However [[Hasbro]]'s [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=7fd5ecd9-19b9-f369-1041-a7635be83172 online timeline]—meant as prequel to ''War for Cybertron''—refers to Optimus's pre-Prime name as "Orion Pax" like ''Exodus''. To confuse matters even more, in [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|War for Cybertron]]'' comic, [[Alex Irvine]], in adapting scenes from his novel, still keeps the character's name as "Orion Pax", when it is also meant to occur prior the game's events.
*Optimus is rather forgetful in ''Exodus''. Alpha Trion tells him twice that he had suggested to the High Council that Orion might be the Prime foretold in the [[Covenant of Primus]]. Then he tells Jetfire that the Core told him of Project Generation One, when it was a contingency plan Trion told him about, put in place since the Breaking of the Primes. Then again, leading an army for thousands or millions of years may place a strain on a bot's memory servers.
*Optimus's CG model underwent modifications between "[[Darkness Rising]]" and the first season proper, with his chest windows lowered somewhat during scenes when he is not in battle.
*''Fall of Cybertron''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> truck mode is described by [[High Moon Studios]] principal artist [[Mike Brown]] as a "fist with wheels attached to it." [http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/10/10/fall-of-cybertron-the-new-optimus-prime.aspx]

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Optimus Prime''' (オプティマス・プライム ''Oputimasu Puraimu'')

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Micronus Prime

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Karhukjnsi: Changing Category of "Mini-Con" to the Aligned used "Minicon".

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The "'''Minicon Prime'''" is the first [[Minicon]] and one of the [[Thirteen]].<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2011-hasbro-story-building-panel-172316/ TFW coverage of Botcon 2011 Hasbro Story Building Panel]</ref>

==Fiction==
===''Prime'' cartoon===

According to legend, at the beginning of time, [[Unicron]] and [[Primus]] battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Till, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

==References==
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Gobu

2012-02-01T04:22:45Z

Karhukjnsi: Changing instances of "Mini-Con" to the Aligned used "Minicon", also linking to the Aligned section of the "Mini-Con" page.

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:''Cobe is a [[Decepticon]]-allied [[Minicon#Aligned|Minicon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

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'''Cobe''' (コブ ''Kobu'') is a ''cob''ra that transforms into a chainsaw weapon.

==Toys==
===Prime===
*'''Cobe''' (Micron, 2012)

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Bumblebee (WFC)

2012-02-01T04:20:37Z

Karhukjnsi: Don't know why he was put in the "Minicon" category.

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{{disambig3|Bumblebee}}
:''Bumblebee is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:PrimeBee.jpg|thumb|300px|"I don't understand why I sleep all day..."]]
'''Bumblebee''' is a young and eager Autobot, one of the last generation to be created before the loss of the [[AllSpark (Prime)|AllSpark]]. He's full of energy and determination to do the right thing, and can always be counted on to volunteer for action. His small size matched with his impressive speed make him an excellent scout and messenger.

He's been on Earth longer than any other Autobot, and he's grown to like and understand [[human]]s, particularly [[Raf Esquivel]] and [[Axel Frazier]]. If you're a Decepticon and you want to threaten any humans, you better not think you can get away with it just because Bumblebee's small and can't talk: he can't talk because his voicebox was ''destroyed'' in combat and he's still kept fighting, because Bumblebee will take any risk and make whatever sacrifice ''necessary'' to win the war.

{{quote|Bumblebee, it wouldn't kill you to exercise caution.|[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Bumblebee was part of the last generation of Cybertronians that emerged from the [[Well of All Sparks]] after it had stopped producing life in a lull at the beginning of the [[Autobot]]-[[Decepticon]] war. Like all born during the war, he joined the Autobots. He became part of [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]]'s inner circle with [[Jazz (Prime)|Jazz]], [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]] and [[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]], and also befriended [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]], learning first aid skills from him in the few battles they fought together.

When Optimus ejected the [[AllSpark]] from the Well into space, Bumblebee distracted [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] at [[Tyger Pax]], and paid the ultimate price when the tyrant destroyed his vocoder. Ratchet repaired it, but Bumblebee was only able to speak from time to time. When Megatron stole the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] underneath the [[Autobot High Council|High Council Tower]], Bumblebee followed him to the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] below the ruins of [[Crystal City]] and witnessed him use it to corrupt Cybertron's [[core]] with [[Dark Energon]].

Bumblebee informed Optimus of what he saw, but first he had to serve as part of the extraction unit in Optimus's rescue of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]] from [[Kaon]]. Afterwards Optimus, Bumblebee and [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]] journeyed to the core through the Well. Due to the heavy build up of Dark Energon, Bumblebee found it a distressing experience and lost it when they reached the core, silently tearing out the protruding Corruption Spikes. Though fearful of what would happen, Optimus was able to remove the Chamber and begin Cybertron's healing.

Back at [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Optimus announced [[Ark (Prime)|Project Generation One]] to evacuate Cybertron, for the planet could not sustain a fraction of the life it currently supported if it were to survive. Bumblebee boarded the ''[[Eight Track (Prime)|Eight Track]]'' with the other elite Autobots and drew out and entered [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]]. Avoiding Trypticon's corridor drones and [[Minicons]] they blew up the Dark Energon Facility, causing him to crash. Bumblebee boarded the ''Ark'', which flew him and his friends through the last [[space bridge]] to a [[Milky Way|spiral galaxy]] with the AllSpark detected nearby. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

===''Exiles''===

After passing through the unstable [[Space Bridge]], Bumblebee and the Autobots aboard the Ark found themselves in the vicinity of a Cybertronian colony world called [[Velocitron]]. Bumblebee was part of Optimus Prime's initial landing team, who made contact with the planet's rulers, [[Override (Prime)|Override]] and [[Ransack (Prime)|Ransack]]. It was a time of great stress between Velocitron's rulers, and the Autobots' arrival from mythical Cybertron only exacerbated the situation. Although the Autobots secured an ally in Override, they left Velocitron on the brink of civil war during their departure.

The next leg of their journey through the Space Bridge brought the Autobots to fabled [[Junkion]], a world composed entirely of space junk. Bumblebee and the Autobots met [[Wreck-Gar (Prime)|Wreck-Gar]] and his ever-busy people, the Junkions, who maintained an entire planet made of derelict ships and space junk that gravitated together over time. Optimus Prime's Matrix-induced visions led him on a quest through one of the four Space Bridge nodes surrounding Junkion, and he selected Bumblebee and [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]] to accompany him. Through the Bridge they came across the lonely tomb of [[Solus Prime]], fabled artifacer of the [[Thirteen]]. Her holographic spirit was called forth by the Matrix and informed the Autobots that the [[Requiem Blaster (Prime)|Requiem Blaster]], most deadly of her creations, rested on Junkion and must be kept out of Decepticon hands.

Returning to Junkion, Bumblebee joined the other Autobots in a struggle with the Decepticons aboard the newly arriving ''Nemesis''. The Requiem Blaster was uncovered inside a ship at the planet's core. A weapon capable of drawing infinite power from nearby stellar sources, the Requiem Blaster had its own gravity field, and had literally been the core around which Junkion's "junk" had formed. The fighting over the Requiem Blaster ripped the planet apart, but both sides eventually called off the melee and abandoned the Blaster after learning the location of the Allspark itself. Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, and the rest of the Autobots boarded the Ark and began the long race to reach their civilization's greatest prize before Megatron could. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles}}

===''Prime'' comic===
[[Image:PrimeComicBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|]]
Bumblebee and Optimus were on [[Earth]] when they detected [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] and [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]'s arrival and went to their rescue. After Optimus crushed [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], Bumblebee sent the Decepticon flying with a single punch, and escorted the others back to base. {{storylink|Transformers: Prime (comic)}}
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===''Prime'' cartoon===

[[Image:Predatory-ArceeBeeCliff.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]
During the Great War, Bumblebee and Cliffjumper invaded [[Airachnid]]'s lair to rescue Arcee and [[Tailgate (Prime)|Tailgate]]. Bumblebee blasted a couple of Vehicons, but they were too late to save Tailgate. They carried Arcee out as she told them she'd been unable to save her partner. {{storylink|Predatory}}

Bumblebee was patrolling a desert area when Optimus ordered everyone back to [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|base]] so that they could use the [[GroundBridge]] to provide Cliffjumper with backup. They did so, but arrived at the battle site too late — Cliffjumper had been taken by the Decepticons, and apparently killed. The Autobots held a brief memorial for their friend.

[[Image:Bumblebee Bulkhead Arcee Darkness Rising 1.jpg|left|thumb|350px|''Voice actor:'' [[Snake-Eyes]] (English)]]

When Arcee and [[Jack Darby]] were pursued by Decepticons, Bumblebee joined in the chase as it moved onto the freeway. After a brief attempt to slow the Decepticons, he joined Arcee in facing the foe in a drainage canal, accidentally crushing a toy car belonging to [[Raf Esquivel|Rafael Esquivel]]. During the fight Bumblebee was knocked to the ground, and only Raf's timely distraction allowed him to temporarily get the better of the Decepticons, until [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] arrived and helped them scare the Decepticons off.

Optimus was disappointed that humans had gotten involved, and had Bumblebee and Arcee bring them back to the base. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}} When [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] detected Cliffjumper's signal, Bumblebee was part of the team that went to try and rescue their comrade. Though he and the others valiantly fought through the multitudes of Decepticons at an energon mine, their mission was ultimately a failure, and they had to return to base hastily as the mine exploded. Prime later assigned him to watch over Raf to keep the boy safe from the Decepticons. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 2}}

[[Image:DarknessRising3-BumblebeeArceevehicles.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Drive on the right side of the road, Bumblebee!]]

The next day, Bumblebee discovered that he was a lot better than Raf at computer games, though Raf blamed it on Bumblebee's greater experience in driving. When they reached the base, Optimus and Ratchet left on a mission, placing Arcee in charge. Arcee promptly went out out on patrol, taking Bumblebee with her and leaving Bulkhead in charge. As they drove through the Nevada desert, Bulkhead reported that [[William Fowler|Fowler]] had been abducted by the Decepticons. When it turned out there was no one left at base to bridge them back, Arcee and Bumblebee were forced to drive there. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}

[[Image:DarknessRising4-Bumblebeeshoot.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Sting like a bee = die by fire]]

Bumblebee and Arcee arrived at the Decepticon ship in time to rescue Raf and Jack from a pair of Decepticons. They quickly located Bulkhead and Miko, also moving through the ship, but after it became obvious that the humans were in too much danger as they fought their way through the ship, the Autobots cleared out a room for them to hide out in. They eventually reached the brig where Fowler was being held, and Bumblebee and Bulkhead burst through the main door while Arcee slipped in through a top vent. A standoff ensued, until Fowler distracted Starscream long enough for the Autobots to start firing. Starscream thusly chased off, the Autobots took off with Fowler and rescued the kids on the way out. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}

Once the Autobots had located the whereabouts of the Deepticon [[space bridge]] — Earth orbit — Optimus, Bulkhead, Arcee and Bumblebee used the GroundBridge to reach it. They were spotted by Megatron and Starscream, who sent a force of flying Decepticons to attack them. While they battled, Ratchet determined a way to destroy the space bridge, so Bumblebee, Arcee and Bulkhead went to implement the plan. They committed the necessary act of sabotage before Megatron fired on them. Bumblebee collected Arcee on his way to jumping into the GroundBridge and carried her back to base where she recovered enough to stand on her own. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}}

[[Image:Masters&Students-BeeQuake.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Bumblebee comes up with his own version of punch buggy blue.]]
Bumblebee helped Raf with his science project, building a small replica of a volcano while they discussed how Bumblebee had not yet risen to the rank of Warrior. As Optimus pointed out, Bumblebee still had much to learn before he could reach that level. Optimus subsequently picked Bumblebee to go on a mission to investigate Decepticon activity, but warned the smaller Autobot to hold back. When Optimus came to blows with [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]], Bumblebee decided to disregard the earlier order and charged into battle. Though he was no match for Skyquake, he and Optimus led the Decepticon into a trap and seemed victorious, until Skyquake [[scanning|scanned]] Fowler's jet. Bumblebee managed to end the fight by jumping onto Skyquake's jet form and causing critical damage, jumping to Fowler's jet as Skyquake crashed to the ground. After some repairs, Optimus commended him on his performance. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Bulkhead and Bumblebee discovered a strange pod in the [[Arctic]] which they brought back to base. When the kids arrived at base, Bumblebee was keen to play some videogames with Raf, but he and Bulkhead were roped into helping Ratchet repair the GroundBridge, which broke shortly after Optimus and Arcee used it to go to the Arctic. The cause of the problem was revealed when Raf found a [[Scraplet]], which started gnawing on Bumblebee. Raf killed it with a crowbar before it could do much more damage, but Bumblebee ended up having to search the base with Raf for more of the Scraplets. After finding quite a lot of Scraplets, they returned to the control room, where another mass of them overwhelmed Bumblebee, Bulkhead and Ratchet. Though the kids were able to get rid of the attacking Scraplets, Bumblebee was out of it for the rest of the incident, and ended up on a repair bed, being tended to by the kids. {{storylink|Scrapheap (episode)|Scrapheap}}

When [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] landed on Earth, Bulkhead, Arcee and Bumblebee turned out to welcome him and arrived in time to see him trash some Vehicons. The Autobots celebrated their new friend's arrival, and Bumblebee and Raf danced The Robot to Miko's guitar playing. He also stood around a lot while Bulkhead proved that "Wheeljack" was a Decepticon spy and the real Wheeljack turned up. After everything was resolved, the Autobots had another party to welcome the real Wheeljack, and Bumblebee got to bust out some more dance moves. He and Arcee turned out with Bulkhead to see Wheeljack off when the Autobot returned to space. {{storylink|Con Job}}

[[Image:Convoy-Bumblebeeboxing.jpg|thumb|left|250px|[[Jazz (Movie)|YOU WANT A PIECE OF ME?! YOU WANT A PIECE?!]] And please don't say you want two, because I know you're not Megatron. ]]

Bumblebee took part in the Autobot convoy to transport Fowler's [[Dynamic Nuclear Generation System]] across the US countryside. When [[MECH]] attacked them, he bashed into one of the cars they were using, flipping it over. The Autobots successfully passed the D.N.G.S. over to a train, but were shortly after confronted by a squadron of flying Vehicons, and were forced to return to their robot modes to fight. Bumblebee got to try out some boxing moves on a Vehicon, but while the Autobots were occupied, MECH made another attempt to obtain the D.N.G.S. which was foiled by Optimus. {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

When an [[Energon Harvester]] was located in a museum, the Autobots surrounded the building while the kids went in to steal it. [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] appeared at the front of the museum to attack Optimus, and as Breakdown charged at the museum, Bumblebee and Arcee attempted to stop him. Bumblebee was hit by a missile, sending him tumbling, and then by Arcee who'd just missed catching another missile. He, Arcee and Prime later attempted to track down the Decepticons before the Harvester could be used, but they ended up coming to Bulkhead's rescue after he found and stopped the Decepticons himself. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}

[[Image:SpeedMetal-BBvsBreakdown.jpg|thumb|250px|I want a new dance partner.]]
When Arcee refused to go street racing with Jack, Bumblebee was more receptive, though they asked Raf's permission beforehand. Unfortunately also participating in the race was Knock Out, who started firing on Bumblebee. After calling base and letting them know what was up, Bumblebee used an oil slick to slow down Knock Out, and hid under a bridge. They would have escaped detection had another human, [[Vince]], not confronted Jack about apparently pulling out of the race, and Vince was subsequently captured by Knock Out. After Arcee and Bulkhead arrived, the three Autobots pursued Knock Out to a storage facility, where Bumblebee and Bulkhead were ambushed by Breakdown. They defeated Breakdown and caught up with Knock Out. The other 'Con had already been stopped by Optimus, who was very interested in some explanations. {{storylink|Speed Metal}}

When Optimus was infected with [[Cybonic plague]], Bumblebee and Arcee GroundBridged to the ''Nemesis'' to find a cure. Bumblebee discovered Megatron had survived their last battle and was recovering in sickbay. Unable to find the cure on the Decepticons' computer, Bumblebee offered to use the [[cortical psychic patch]] to enter Megatron's mind and locate it. Finding himself in a [[Kaon]]ian dreamscape, Bumblebee saw Megatron killing Optimus repeatedly. Megatron realized he could not harm Bumblebee and demanded to know why he was intruding on his mind. Bumblebee reminded him of the space bridge explosion and implored him to give him the cure, playing on his desire to kill Optimus for real rather than have him succumb to a virus. Megatron showed him the cure but demanded Bumblebee help him out of his stasis lock. Ratchet was recording what Bumblebee saw though, and because they had the cure, Arcee disconnected Bumblebee and GroundBridged back to base. However, Megatron's spark had left his body and escaped into Bumblebee's... {{storylink|Sick Mind}}

[[Image:OutOfHisHead-evileye.jpg|left|thumb|250px|He is no longer the boy you once knew, [[Obi-Wan Kenobi|Obi-Wan]].]]
Bumblebee began to experience visions of Megatron, causing him to stop dead during a basketball game with Bulkhead. After Megatron forced him to crush one of Ratchet's devices, Bumblebee told Ratchet about the visions, and Ratchet induced a power down to give Bumblebee's mind time to recover. Bumblebee reactivated, under the control of Megatron, and, retrieving a piece of Dark Energon from an old battlefield, bridged to the Decepticon warship over the Arctic. Although Ratchet and Raf tried to stop him, even managing to get Bumblebee to reassert control for a few moments, Bumblebee successfully brought Megatron back online and transferred his mind back to his body. Free of Megatron's influence, Bumblebee beat a hasty retreat with Ratchet and Raf. Later at base, Ratchet checked Bumblebee was completely free of Megatron, and the small Autobot thanked Raf for coming to help him. {{Storylink|Out of His Head}}

After a Dark Energon signature was detected, Optimus took a team including Bumblebee to investigate. They instead found Starscream trying to resurrect Skyquake. During the ensuing conflict, the Autobots discovered their human friends had followed them to the battlefield, and the three kids were caught in a freak GroundBridge accident, causing them to disappear.The Autobots returned to base to try and locate their friends, but it wasn't until Bumblebee suggested trying to ring the kids that they found Miko's cellphone, and the kids were able to send a text to it. Ratchet subsequently engineered a portal to rescue the kids from the other dimension they'd become trapped in. {{storylink|Shadowzone (episode)|Shadowzone}}

When Breakdown was captured by MECH, Bumblebee and the others were more than happy to leave them to it, but Optimus insisted that they rescue the Decepticon to avoid Cybertronian technology falling into MECH hands. The team arrived in [[Kamchatka Peninsula]] and Bumblebee spotted some vehicle tracks, but they opted to follow the energon signal Ratchet had detected instead. After they escaped the bomb that the trace led them to, the team tracked down Bulkhead in time to chase off Starscream and some Vehicons. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}}

Arcee and Bumblebee were in the middle of a fight with some Vehicons when Arcee got a call informing her she had to be in Jack's garage ASAP. After checking if Bumblebee could handle it, Arcee left. Evidently he was able to, as he was later in the Autobot base when Jack and Arcee turned up with [[June Darby]]. {{storylink|Crisscross}}

[[Image:Partners-BeepunchesAirachnid.jpg|thumb|250px|Booya!]]
Bumblebee was part of the team that investigated the wreck of a crashed [[Harbinger|Decepticon ship]] and found Airachnid and Starscream. He guarded the bound Starscream while the others decided what to do with the Decepticon. Prime, Bulkhead and Bumblebee went to check out the rear half of the ship, crashed some distance away, and were ambushed by Airachnid who had found an experimental weapon named the [[Immobilizer]]. She froze Prime and Bulkhead, but Bumblebee managed to trick her by kicking up a dust cloud with his guns, and then pretending to be frozen after she fired the Immobilizer into it. Once she turned her back, he crept up and sucker punched her before blasting the Immobilizer. After she fled, Bumblebee went back to find Arcee, and interrupted her when she was about to offline Starscream. They returned the pieces of Immobilizer to base, along with Bulkhead and Optimus, and Ratchet was able to repair the device and unfreeze their comrades. {{storylink|Partners}}

Bumblebee accompanied Prime and Arcee as they tried to retrieve a [[Cybertronian data cylinder]] before the Decepticons did. Ultimately the Decepticons made off with the cylinder, and later Bumblebee listened as Ratchet told them the cylinder's contents had ended up in Bulkhead's brain, though the Autobots were excited to find that the equations being scrawled by Bulkhead were a set of formula for synthetic energon. Unfortunately it later turned out that the data was eating Bulkhead's brain. Bumblebee and Arcee accompanied Optimus on an unsuccessful attempt to get the cylinder back from Megatron, and they ended up fighting a bunch of Vehicons. Later they came to Miko and Bulkhead's aid to save the pair from Knock Out and Breakdown, and were present when Miko managed to rouse the comatose Bulkhead with her guitar. {{storylink|T.M.I.}}

During a mission to stop Knock Out and Breakdown who were transporting energon, Bumblebee, Prime and Bulkhead were separated from Arcee. They caught up to find that Ratchet had already dealt with the Vehicons who'd been attacking Arcee, and they returned to base where Ratchet revealed he'd taken the synthetic energon he'd been working on. Ratchet, amped up on the substance, insisted on going on their next mission, which meant Bumblebee got left at base operating the GroundBridge. The other Autobots returned minus Ratchet, who had gone to tackle Megatron on his own. Once they'd gotten a fix on Ratchet's signal, they left Bumblebee at base again. {{storylink|Stronger, Faster}}

[[Image:PrimeEp23-BumblebeeRaf.jpg|thumb|left|250px]]
Bumblebee was taking Raf to play with Raf's remote-control car when he was called on to join the battle at a military base. Unfortunately Megatron found them before he could drop Raf off, and Bumblebee was hit by a blast from Megatron's cannon. Though Bumblebee himself was mostly unaffected, Raf was gravely injured. Bumblebee arrived at the battle and had to be restrained from attacking Megatron so he and Arcee could take Raf back to base. Bumblebee watched helplessly as Ratchet and June Darby tried to save the boy. At one point, the frustration became too much, and he knocked a chunk out of the wall with his fist, but Arcee talked him down, and eventually Ratchet worked out that an energon infusion would save Raf. Bumblebee gave some of his own energon for the procedure, which was ultimately successful. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}}

After the other Autobots saved Optimus from Megatron, Bumblebee bridged them back to base. June decided to take Raf to the hospital, and didn't intend to bring him back, so Bumblebee had to sadly watch them drive from the base. When it transpired that the Dark Energon volcano was causing global disasters, he went to find June and Raf, and managed to save them from a tornado by grabbing the front end of their car. After he returned to base with them, the assembled Autobots and humans worked out that [[Unicron]] was at the center of the Earth. He and the other Autobots began investigating the sites of the earthquakes Unicron had generated. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Though Optimus ordered the other Autobots to remain at base, Bumblebee, Arcee and Bulkhead joined him anyway. They fought increasingly larger stone Unicrons, until they encountered a huge one which Bumblebee thought might be the real thing but Prime told him wasn't. He and Bulkhead zoomed behind it to try and blast it, but it knocked them both aside as if they were nothing. To their surprise, help came in the form of Megatron who blasted the giant before it could crush Prime, and offered to help them fight Unicron. When Optimus gave the trio the choice of whether to accompany him and Megatron to Earth's core, Bumblebee opted to go for Raf's sake. He, Arcee and Bulkhead greeted Megatron to the Autobot base by aiming their guns at him. Before long, they stepped through the GroundBridge once again, this time into Earth's core. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

As they made their way through Unicron's internals, they encountered [[Unicron's antibodies|antibodies]] which aggressively attacked them. When during the fight Bulkhead almost fell to his doom, Bumblebee grabbed his arm and held him long enough for Optimus to help. He, Bulkhead and Arcee remained outside Unicron's spark chamber to hold off the antibodies, but after Unicron's defeat, they entered to find Optimus had lost his memory. The trio had to GroundBridge back to base without their leader. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}
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===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
Bumblebee took part in the testing of Ratchet's newly developed [[Safe]]. After Bulkhead uncovered a nuke which attracted the attention of some Vehicons, Bumblebee, Optimus and Arcee went out to deal with the 'Cons. As Bumblebee knocked the Vehicons into the air, Optimus and Arcee blasted them, though Bumblebee was less than happy with the arrangement as he wanted to get to shoot them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.1|The Safe and the Failsafe}} Optimus took the other Autobots, including Bumblebee, on a trip to [[Valley of Fire State Park]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

Bumblebee was playing video games with Raf when Fowler reported that the Decepticons had commandeered a [[Yamal|nuclear-powered ship]] near [[Antarctica]]. Optimus, Bumblebee and Ratchet GroundBridged to the ship, but on arrival Ratchet was knocked out by Starscream's [[static lance]]. Bumblebee attacked the Decepticon, dodging a swipe of the lance and then delivering a kick. Once he had possession of the lance, Bumblebee threw it to Optimus, who used it to defeat Megatron. After guiding the ship to its destination, the trio returned to base, which had been turned into an ice rink for some reason. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.3|Ice Breaker}}

Raf and Bumblebee stopped off at [[Plug and Play]] to pick up Raf's copy of ''[[Invasionauts II]]''. Later at the base, Bumblebee found that Raf had let a bunch of Vehicons into the base, and was about to shut the [[GroundBridge]] down, when Raf stopped him. Raf, who had been temporarily hypnotised by the game, instead shut the bridge down in a way that sucked the remaining Vehicons back through and kept the location of the base concealed from the enemy. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor'': [[Johnny Yong Bosch]] (English), [[Renato Novara]] (Italian)

[[Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|The time has come and so have I... I'll laugh last 'cause you came to die.]]
During the Decepticons siege of [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon City]], Bumblebee volunteered to be a message courier when communications became unreliable. Bumblebee was searching for the one called [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] when he was caught by a pair of Decepticons, only to be saved by Optimus and [[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]. Informing Optimus of the death of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Ratchet to a command center where they were contacted by [[Jetfire (Prime)|Jetfire]], who was leading the aerial counterattack and wanted Zeta to activate the [[planetary gun]]s. After informing Jetfire of Prime's death, Bumblebee helped Optimus and Ratchet make their way to the orbital defenses control room, where they activated the guns. Their next stop was the [[Decagon]], where they could reestablish communications and coordinate Iacon's defense. They hit serious Decepticon resistance, including several [[Decepticon war machine]]s, but ultimately, with help from Jetfire and [[Ironhide (Prime)|Ironhide]], the three made their way to the Decagon, where they faced the last obstacle: [[Air Commander|Sky Commander]] [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]. Beating the traitorous Seeker, Bumblebee witnessed a desperate communication from Zeta Prime, who was being held in the [[Kaon]] [[Kaon Prison Complex|Prison Complex]]. Optimus resolved to rescue Zeta, and Bumblebee accompanied him.

[[Image:WFC_Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|left|200px|"Autobots... [[Johnny Yong Bosch|It's Morphin' Time?"]]]]
Bumblebee, Optimus, and [[Sideswipe (Prime)|Sideswipe]] allowed themselves to be captured raiding supplies outside Kaon, and taken to the prison within the city. [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] ordered them taken to recycling. Bumblebee didn't think that sounded bad, until Sideswipe told him to consider ''what'' they were recycling. As they made their way through the prison, Bumblebee's horror grew, until he was in a near panic when they placed against the firing wall. Fortunately, [[Air Raid (Prime)|Air Raid]] finally arrived and killed the [[Heavy Soldier]]s about to execute them. Air Raid was forced to let himself be captured to let the others escape. Finally finding some weapons, the three made their way to a [[wall crawler]] and descended into the prison. Bumblebee asked if this was good or bad, and Optimus replied that it was purely a matter of perspective, while Sideswipe said he was enjoying himself. Soon, they reached a room where Megatron revealed that he had allowed Zeta's message to be broadcast simply to lure Optimus into a trap. After they fought off some Decepticons, Megatron simply teleported them to a prison cell without their weapons. Fortunately, Optimus managed to break the wall with his axe, freeing them. Optimus then explained he could not open the other prisoners' cells, despite Bumblebee's pleas. Heading to retrieve Air Raid, the three Autobots rescued the flier, who took them to the control which would open all the prison's hard locks. Unfortunately, Zeta was trapped under the facility, so the control wouldn't release him. While Air Raid took the freed Autobots back to Iacon, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus and Sideswipe underground to free Zeta, racing through the caverns as the Decepticons blew out the ground. Reaching Zeta Prime's cell, Optimus, Bumblebee, and Sideswipe had to fight through Soundwave's minions to rescue the Autobot leader, but Soundwave stole some of Zeta's life energy and fled, killing the Prime. Taking his body back to Iacon, Bumblebee and Sideswipe bore witness to the [[Autobot High Council]] declaring that Optimus was now Optimus [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], leader of the Autobots.

During the evacuation of Cybertron, Megatron used Trypticon Station to fire on the Autobots' escape pods. After the Aerialbots destroyed Trypticon's conversion cog and sent him plummeting to the planet's surface, Bumblebee accompanied Optimus Prime and Ironhide to look for the crash site. Once Trypticon was found to still function, Bumblebee assisted in fighting him, overloading his shoulder cannons with energon batteries and destroying his heat vents. After greatly damaging Trypticon, Oprimus Prime declared Trypticon had lost and knocked him into an energon lake with his axe. Afterward, Bumblebee was present at the unveiling of the Ark, where he reminded Optimus Prime that Megatron was "still out there". {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' Johnny Yong Bosch (English)
{{quote|Watch out, Decepticons! I'm kinda a big deal!|Bumblebee, making you glad he can't talk in the cartoon.}}
[[Image:WFCDS Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|89px|Small, but noisy.]]
When a distress call from Zeta Prime was received by the Autobots, they sent Bumblebee to find Optimus so they could repair the communications system. Bumblebee and Optimus were seen battling Decepticons together by an Autobot rookie when he arrived at the Autobot base. When Optimus was later disabled by [[laser guard]]s, Bumblebee was instrumental in reviving him, and helped him defeat [[Dirge (WFC)|Dirge]]. After the Autobots retook [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Bumblebee exploded verbally at Ironhide, complaining that they'd already lost the war. Optimus told him that that attitude was just what Megatron wanted.

Prime's transmissions led the Autobots to infiltrate Kaon Prison, a place Bumblebee found terrifying to the point where Ironhide had to try and calm him and Optimus told them both to quiet down. They eventually found Zeta Prime, in time for their leader to expire. After Optimus was made the new Prime, the Autobots tried to enlist the help of [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] and [[Swoop (WFC)|Swoop]]. Bumblebee slyly goaded Grimlock into challenging Optimus to a contest, however instead the Autobots ended up rescuing Swoop who'd been kidnapped by the Decepticons. The Autobots were forced to venture down to Cybertron's core to disable the Dark Energon corruptors, so that Cybertron's core could begin repairing itself, however the planet was left unable to sustain Transformer life.

As the Autobots began to evacuate in arks, Trypticon station began firing on them. Optimus prepared to take a team to the station to attack it from the inside, and Bumblebee was the first to volunteer to go along. They infiltrated the station and destroyed its power core, causing it to plunge from orbit. To the Autobots' surprise, the station transformed into a monster which Bumblebee found terrifying, but he still took part in the battle to destroy it. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
:''Voice actor'': Johnny Yong Bosch (English), [[Renato Novara]] (Italian)

In order to find out more about "Trypticon", Bumblebee and Ironhide were ordered to infiltrate a Decepticon datacore and extract the info stored inside it. Looking for a back way in, Ironhide uncovered a transit shaft, but it was too small for him to reconnoiter. Splitting up, Bumblebee took the shaft while Ironhide circled around to find another way in. Inside the datacore, they retrieved the intel on Trypticon, but were unable to escape without being noticed. The ruckus they raised in Kaon caught Megatron's attempt, and he arrived to fell both Autobots before they made it out of the city-state. Megatron subjected Bumblebee to a neural scanner to forcibly extract Autobot secrets from his mind. Bumblebee struggled to resist the scanner, but still unwillingly gave up some intel before Ironhide broke them both free. They eventually made it out of Kaon in one piece, thanks in part to the air support provided by Air Raid.

After the power supply was cut off to Trypticon from the Geosynchronous Energy Bridge, the Autobots began to prep supplies for their evacuation of the planet. On one such supply convoy, Bumblebee ran defensive reconnaissance to protect the convoy from Decepticon attack. Bumblebee blamed himself for allowing the decepticons to access his mind using the neural scanner, and was extra dedicated to the mission in his effort to redeem himself, even if only in his own eyes. He uncovered an ambush plot on the roadway, and alerted Optimus to the threat. Taking point, he intervened on several other ambush attempts along the way.

After Trypticon Station fell to Cybertron's surface and revealed itself as a gi-normous transforming creature, Bumblebee joined Optimus Prime and Ironhide in racing to the crash site to finish him off. They were separated during the journey, and had to fight through multiple Decepticon vanguards before even reaching Trypticon. Eventually, it was the combined firepower and teamwork of the Autobot forces that brought down the dangerous dinosaur. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}
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===''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''===

[[Image:FOC-GameInformerPrimeBumblebee.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Oh my God, they killed Kenny! You bastards!]]
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{{storylink|Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianBumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He stars in ''Tron 3.0.'']]
*'''Cybertronian Bumblebee''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)
:*''Accessories: '' handgun
: Based on his appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', Bumblebee transforms from a yellow and black robot into a "Cybertronian courier mode." His toy comes with a handgun and features two wrist-mounted flip-out blades. The handgun (described in the packaging only as "weapon") can be stored inside his rear bumper in either robot or vehicle mode. Bumblebee's head appears to have [[Light-piping]]. However his eyes are painted over in blue, thus rendering the gimmick neutered. Due to the nature of his design, his legs are generally loose at the mid-thigh transformation joint.
:Bumblebee is part of the first wave of ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' Deluxes, but he and Cybertronian [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] shipped ahead of their two other wavemates in the United States via [[Toys"R"Us]].

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[United (toyline)|United]]'' [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#United|Bumblebee Cybertron Mode]] and [[retool]]ed into ''[[Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]] and ''United'' [[Cliffjumper (G1)#United|Cliffjumper Cybertron Mode]]. In fact, Bumblebee's instructions depict him with Cliffjumper's head, revealing the retool before it was officially announced.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/GenerationsBumblebee/bumblebee.htm More information on Cybertronian Bumblebee at TFU.info]''
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===Transformers (2010)===
[[Image:TRURageOverCybertronCybertronianBumblebee.jpg|thumb|300px|The Grid. A digital frontier. I tried to picture clusters of information as they moved through the computer.]]
*'''Rage over Cybertron''' (Multipack, 2011)
:*''Accessories'': handgun

:A [[redeco]] of Cybertronian Bumblebee with most of the original version's black plastic changed to gray, clear blue headlights and rims, a red tint for the windows, most of the red paint details changed to blue and additional blue circuitry paint details resembling the "overshield" effect from the ''War for Cybertron'' game, available in a [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]] three-pack with redecos of Cybertronian Optimus Prime and Cybertronian Megatron.
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===Prime: First Edition===
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[[Image:NYCC-Arcee-Bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Bumblebee and Arcee, Includes Raf Esquivel and Jack Darby''' (NYCC 2011 exclusive)
:[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] is a [[redeco]] of Deluxe Class Bumblebee (see below) as a New York taxicab and comes with a pink [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] and NY-themed [[Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel]] figurines. They were sold exclusively at New York Comic-Con 2011.
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[[Image:Primetoy-BumblebeeDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Pirates radio clips ''and'' Jazz's transformation scheme.]]
*'''Bumblebee''' ("First Edition" Deluxe Class, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Arm-mounted weapon, stand

: Part of the first wave of "First Edition" ''Prime'' figures, this Deluxe-sized incarnation of Bumblebee transforms into a yellow muscle car. An arm-mounted blaster can be pegged into either of his forearms or stowed underneath the vehicle mode. As with other "First Edition" ''Prime'' figures, he comes with a cardboard display stand which sits at the bottom of the packaging.
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===Rescue Bots===
[[Image:RescueBots Bumblebee toy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Dear God, [[Bumblebee (Movie)|they're]] [[Bumblebee (Animated)|crossbreeding!]]]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (2011)
:Bumblebee transforms into a yellow muscle car which presumably can be used by the humans in the rescue team to speed to problem sites, while staying within the speed limit, of course. Tugging either end of the vehicle will [[autotransformation|autotransform]] him back into robot mode.
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[[Image:RescueBots Garage Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Bumblebee enjoys hiding underneath cars that look like him.]]
*'''Bumblebee Rescue Garage''' (2011)
**''Accessories:'' Bumblebee, Axel Frazier
:The [[Bumblebee Rescue Garage]] comes with a smaller Bumblebee toy not unlike an [[Robot Powered Machines|RPM]] or [[Speed Stars]] toy in function. Standing the vehicle on end reveals Bumblebee's robot mode embossed on its underside. The back of Bumblebee's car mode also has a cavity in which the included Axel Frazier figure can ride.
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===Prime: Robots in Disguise===
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*'''Bumblebee''' (Revealer, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' 2 arm-mounted weapons
: Part of the first wave of "Robots in Disguise" ''Prime'' figures, this is a seemingly entirely-new Bumblebee figure, apart from the "First Edition" version, though it shares some engineering.

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[[Image:Cyberverse_legion_bb.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Bumblebee''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

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{{anchor|EntertainmentPack}}
*'''Starscream vs. Bumblebee''' (2012)

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*'''Bumblebee''' (Weaponizer, 2012)
**''Accessories:''

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*'''Bumblebee Sword''' (Micron, 2012)

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==Merchandise==
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*'''Bumblebee Ion Blaster''' (2012)

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==Notes==
* [[Alex Irvine]] wrote the short story ''[[Bumblebee at Tyger Pax]]'', expanding on how Bumblebee lost his vocoder in ''Exodus''.
* [[Jeff Kline]] said why Bumblebee lost his voice will be revealed in season two of ''Prime'',<ref>[http://collider.com/roberto-orci-jeff-kline-interview-transformers-prime/75039/ Collider interview]</ref> though [[Duane Capizzi]] broke the suspense when he said it would be for the same reason as ''Exodus''.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/bonus-q--a-with-transformers-prime-creators---answered-171430/ TFW Q&A]</ref>
*In the end credits for WFC, Bee drives up, and '''HALF''' of the Autobots get out. Weird.
* Bumblebee's [[license plate]] in "[[Speed Metal]]" is "'''936 SOH'''".

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Bumblebee''' (バンブルビー ''Banburubī'')

==References==
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Rumble (WFC)

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{{disambig3|Rumble}}
:''Rumble is a [[Decepticon]] [[Minicon#Aligned|Minicon]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)| War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFC Rumble intro.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Look everyone; no hands!]]
As a loyal Minicon warrior under [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'s command, '''Rumble''' loves using his quake-producing armament to shake up the opposition. Though he is most often found by the side (or rather, ''inside'') of his powerful commander, Rumble can be a surprisingly effective warrior on his own, throwing even warriors like [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)#War for Cybertron video game|Optimus]] for a tumble!

He is [[FIRRIB|blue!]]

{{bigquote|Get ready to ''crumble''... before ''Rumble!''|Rumble on his own awesomeness|''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]''}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Soundwave sent Rumble and [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]] to search for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] in [[Crystal City]]. Afterwards they attended [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]]'s hearing with the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Silverstein]] (English)

Following the defeat of [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]] in the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] [[Vaults]], the [[Autobot]] leader was transferred to [[Kaon]] prison facility where he was tortured by Soundwave. In the hopes of luring [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] to Kaon, [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and Soundwave orchestrated events that allowed Zeta Prime to send a message to the Autobots revealing of his survival. Even though the Autobots recognized it for the trap it was, Optimus nevertheless led [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sidewipe]] allowing themselves to be captured and briefly imprisoned. They broke free, releasing all of the other Autobots in the prison and fought their way to Soundwave's laboratory. Soundwave protected himself behind an impenetrable forcefield and unleashed Rumble, [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]], and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] upon the Autobots. Any attempt by Optimus and his team to free Zeta was met with a gleeful attack by Rumble and his compatriots. However, when they received damage, Soundwave was forced to leave his protective shield to administer repairs, leaving him open to attack. Eventually, Soundwave and his minions were soon overwhelmed and had to retreat but not before mortally wounding Zeta Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*Rumble and Frenzy are described as communicating in coded beeps in ''Exodus'', but we are told that they can speak normally when they choose to.

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Ravage (WFC)

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:''Ravage is a [[Decepticon]] [[Minicon#Aligned|Minicon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
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'''Ravage''' is one of [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'s Minicon minions. He may resemble a cat.

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Like all of Soundwave's minions, Ravage would prowl around [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s [[Kaon]] headquarters, keeping an eye on his [[gladiatorial combat|gladiators]]. Soundwave considered Ravage and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] more valuable than [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]], so he did not send them to search for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] in [[Crystal City]]. He let them roam around the audience during Megatron and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]]'s hearing with the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. Like the other Minicons, Ravage gets restless when Soundwave makes intense calculations and isn't allowed out. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

==Notes==
*He is only mentioned once when Soundwave infiltrates Crystal City.

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Ratbat (WFC)

2012-02-01T04:18:11Z

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:''Ratbat is a [[Decepticon]] [[Minicon#Aligned|Minicon]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)| War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCcomicEliteGuard.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

'''Ratbat''' was the [[Minicon]] representative for the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]] in the days before the great war. He was well known for being corrupt and in the pocket of the wealthy elite. The general opinion was that he believed only what he was paid to, and only while the payment was good. When the war began he left that position, along with fellow Council member [[Contrail]], to join Megatron's Decepticons.

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===

Ratbat generally made useless interjections during [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]]'s hearing before the High Council, humiliating Orion when he joked he could imagine an end to their session when the young librarian complained the [[caste system]] had rendered the society imaginationless. Ratbat became more serious when Halogen began to concur with Orion and Megatron's beliefs, and was informed that no matter what, it was the beginning of the end for the castes.

Ratbat then mentioned attempts to find the [[Matrix of Leadership]] had been made by the rebels, and uncharacteristcally commented since it had not been found, the Matrix was unwilling to give itself up. This in turn led to the Council's unanimous vote for Orion to become Optimus Prime and be given the quest to find it. An enraged Megatron killed [[Halogen]], declared war and called the Decepticons to follow him. Optimus noticed Ratbat boarded Contrail and left with the Decepticons. During the war [[Polyhex]], Ratbat's home, quickly fell to the Decepticons. Teracycles later, Ratbat's cowardly survival was notable enough for [[Teletraan-1]] to inform [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]] of it. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

==Notes==
* What exactly Contrail and Ratbat were doing is rather unclear. It seems very likely they were already of Megatron's camp, given that they leave with the rest of the "secret" Decepticons in the Council Chambers at the end of that confrontation. If so, their outward aggression during procedures was probably intentional, masking leading questions to influence the direction of the meeting... But if ''that'' is so, why did they then vote for Orion Pax as the new Prime? This was clearly not part of the infuriated Megatron's plan. Yet regardless of this apparent betrayal they felt safe enough leaving with Megatron's Decepticons.
**When asked on Twitter, [[Alex Irvine]] said "Megatron knows that sometimes you have to say one thing and do another... don't think there are hard feelings [between him and the senators]."[http://twitter.com/alexirvine/status/36061638025023488]

* Ratbat is described as being the Minicons's representative to the Council. So it's not surprising that he's often described as being tiny and scampering. As of the end of the story, he's also the only Minicon that is depicted talking, versus communicating in beeps and tones. ([[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] and [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]] are said to be able to, but use the coded beeps and tones when it's quicker or more efficient.)

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Laserbeak (WFC)

2012-02-01T04:16:35Z

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:''Laserbeak is a [[Decepticon]] [[Minicon#Aligned|Minicon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCLaserbeak.jpg|thumb|300px|The clearest shot of him in the whole game.]]

Of the [[Deployer (Prime)|Deployer]]s who stand with [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]], '''Laserbeak''' may say the least, but he quickly distinguishes himself, as his powerful laser attacks can pin down an [[Autobot]] attack force... when it isn't cutting them to shreds.

==Fiction==
===''Exodus'' novel===
Megatron despised Soundwave's minions, including Laserbeak. Regardless, Soundwave found Laserbeak more valuable than [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] and [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]], and when Soundwave did some intense thinking, his Minicons inside got restless. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

===''Prime'' cartoon===
[[Image:Deployer DarknessRising3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Origamicon.]]
When Soundwave intercepted a message from [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]], Soundwave released Laserbeak (which was resting on his chest) to bring Fowler to the ''[[Nemesis (Prime)|Nemesis]]''. After chasing Fowler's helicopter, the drone grabbed Fowler with his tentacles and returned to the Decepticon ship. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}

[[Image:Laserbeakface.jpg|right|thumb|250px|This is bird?]]

After Soundwave picked up a possible signal from [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], who was previously assumed dead, [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] went to investigate. Untrusting of Starscream, Soundwave decided to keep an eye on him by sending Laserbeak after him. After finding Megatron, Starscream intended to allow Megatron to perish, but was forced to reconsider when he discovered Soundwave's Minicon watching him. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

While proving a point to [[Airachnid]], Soundwave unleashed Laserbeak, who zoomed around the ''Nemesis'' bridge and shot her a couple of times. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}
{{--}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===

When the captive [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] were brought before Soundwave in the Kaon Prison, Laserbeak swooped down and perched on his master's arm. It soon turned out, however, that Prime's team had allowed themselves to be captured so they could rescue [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], and as they escaped and made their way through the prison, Laserbeak could be spotted lurking in the shadows, watching their progress, at three different locations. By the time Prime's group made it to Soundwave's laboratory, where Zeta Prime was being held Laserbeak had reunited with his master, and joined Soundwave in battling the Autobots. Laserbeak served as Soundwave's last line of defense in the clash, ejecting from his chest and screeching across the lab at high speeds, blasting laser bursts onto the Autobots below. He was eventually downed, however, and accompanied Soundwave in a hasty retreat, but not before Soundwave fatally wounded Zeta Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
Lazerbeak{{sic}} recorded a communication between Zeta Prime and the Autobots, allowing the Decepticons to pinpoint the Autobot leader's probable location so they could obtain the [[Omega Key]]. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Toys==
===Prime===
[[Image:Primetoy-SoundwaveDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Deluxe, 2012)
:Laserbeak comes as an accessory.

{{-}}
==Notes==
*The [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|home console version]] of ''War for Cybertron'' has a trophy/achievement that is received by shooting the three hidden Laserbeaks in Kaon Prison Break.
*Laserbeak's appearance in ''War for Cybertron'' appears to be based off [[Laserbeak (G1)|his G1 counterpart's]] Cybertronian form from "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".
*Hasbro referred to the Deployer in ''Prime'' as Laserbeak at [[BotCon 2011]].

[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
[[Category:Prime Minicons]]
[[Category:Spies]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Minicons]]

Frenzy (WFC)

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Karhukjnsi: Changing instances of "Mini-Con" to the Aligned used "Minicon", also linking to the Aligned section of the "Mini-Con" page.

{{faction|decepticon|minicon}}
{{disambig3|Frenzy}}
:''Frenzy is a [[Decepticon]] [[Minicon#Aligned|Minicon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFCFrenzy.jpg|thumb|right|180px|I stayed out in the sun too long, OK?]]

'''Frenzy''' is one of [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'s loyal minions. Though aggressive, Frenzy has a bit of a Napoleon complex and really hates being reminded of his size.

[[FIRRIB|And he's red!]]

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Soundwave sent Frenzy and [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] to search for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] in [[Crystal City]]. Afterwards they attended [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]]'s hearing with the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Keith Silverstein]] (English)
When [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]], and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] came to rescue [[Zeta Prime]] from imprisonment in [[Kaon]], they ran into Soundwave, who released Frenzy in defense. Frenzy put up a fight and didn't take kindly to comments about his size. Despite this, the Autobots managed to defeat Frenzy, and Soundwave recalled him. Although Soundwave was defeated, he and his minions were able to escape after attacking Zeta Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Notes==
*Rumble and Frenzy are described as communicating in coded beeps in ''Exodus'', but we are told they can speak normally when they choose to.

[[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]
[[Category:Spies]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Minicons]]

Laserbeak (WFC)

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Karhukjnsi: Seeing as how the Soundwave toy has been released, I removed the "Coming Soon" bit.

{{faction|decepticon|minicon}}
{{disambig3|Laserbeak}}
:''Laserbeak is a [[Decepticon]] [[Mini-Con]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:WFCLaserbeak.jpg|thumb|300px|The clearest shot of him in the whole game.]]

Of the [[Deployer (Prime)|Deployer]]s who stand with [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]], '''Laserbeak''' may say the least, but he quickly distinguishes himself, as his powerful laser attacks can pin down an [[Autobot]] attack force... when it isn't cutting them to shreds.

==Fiction==
===''Exodus'' novel===
Megatron despised Soundwave's minions, including Laserbeak. Regardless, Soundwave found Laserbeak more valuable than [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] and [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]], and when Soundwave did some intense thinking, his Minicons inside got restless. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus}}

===''Prime'' cartoon===
[[Image:Deployer DarknessRising3.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Origamicon.]]
When Soundwave intercepted a message from [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]], Soundwave released Laserbeak (which was resting on his chest) to bring Fowler to the ''[[Nemesis (Prime)|Nemesis]]''. After chasing Fowler's helicopter, the drone grabbed Fowler with his tentacles and returned to the Decepticon ship. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}}

[[Image:Laserbeakface.jpg|right|thumb|250px|This is bird?]]

After Soundwave picked up a possible signal from [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], who was previously assumed dead, [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] went to investigate. Untrusting of Starscream, Soundwave decided to keep an eye on him by sending Laserbeak after him. After finding Megatron, Starscream intended to allow Megatron to perish, but was forced to reconsider when he discovered Soundwave's Minicon watching him. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

While proving a point to [[Airachnid]], Soundwave unleashed Laserbeak, who zoomed around the ''Nemesis'' bridge and shot her a couple of times. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}
{{--}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===

When the captive [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]], [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] and [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] were brought before Soundwave in the Kaon Prison, Laserbeak swooped down and perched on his master's arm. It soon turned out, however, that Prime's team had allowed themselves to be captured so they could rescue [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], and as they escaped and made their way through the prison, Laserbeak could be spotted lurking in the shadows, watching their progress, at three different locations. By the time Prime's group made it to Soundwave's laboratory, where Zeta Prime was being held Laserbeak had reunited with his master, and joined Soundwave in battling the Autobots. Laserbeak served as Soundwave's last line of defense in the clash, ejecting from his chest and screeching across the lab at high speeds, blasting laser bursts onto the Autobots below. He was eventually downed, however, and accompanied Soundwave in a hasty retreat, but not before Soundwave fatally wounded Zeta Prime. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
Lazerbeak{{sic}} recorded a communication between Zeta Prime and the Autobots, allowing the Decepticons to pinpoint the Autobot leader's probable location so they could obtain the [[Omega Key]]. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

==Toys==
===Prime===
[[Image:Primetoy-SoundwaveDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Deluxe, 2012)
:Laserbeak comes as an accessory.

{{-}}
==Notes==
*The [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|home console version]] of ''War for Cybertron'' has a trophy/achievement that is received by shooting the three hidden Laserbeaks in Kaon Prison Break.
*Laserbeak's appearance in ''War for Cybertron'' appears to be based off [[Laserbeak (G1)|his G1 counterpart's]] Cybertronian form from "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".
*Hasbro referred to the Deployer in ''Prime'' as Laserbeak at [[BotCon 2011]].

[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
[[Category:Prime Mini-Cons]]
[[Category:Spies]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Mini-Cons]]

Thirteen

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Karhukjnsi: Changed "The Fallen's" to "the Fallen's" as it concerns the Aligned continuity, where the capitalization in "the" is different.

{{disambig2|the group of ancient Transformers |the comic series that might never be published|Transformers: The Thirteen}}
[[Image:Original13.jpg|center|500px|thumb|Guess the one on fire!]]
{{quote|We are the 13, the first, the forgotten, each of us serving a function vital to the survival of the universe. Each of us designated a Prime and given a function to serve during the long march of infinity.|Vector Prime|"[[Vector Prime: In the Beginning]]"}}

The '''Thirteen''' are the first Transformers created by [[Primus]], in imitation of [[Unicron]]'s [[transformation]] abilities. Rightfully huge and powerful [[multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]] like their creator, each was designated a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]],<ref>A Hasbro Q&A response would later try to alter this. See Notes above.</ref> and given an aspect of the [[multiverse]] to guide over, as well as manning Primus's physical form—planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. But power corrupts, and many of the Primes betrayed one another—with [[The Fallen|one]] even siding with Unicron—until few remained, secretly aiding or manipulating the next generations of [[Transformer]]s.

==Conceptual history==
[[Image:BW Covenant.jpg|left|thumb|The [[Covenant]] shares a very similar base concept with the Thirteen, and may have been the original inspiration for them.]] Despite how often their importance is trumpeted, the fact of the matter is, the concept of the Thirteen hasn't actually been around that long, hasn't been related in much detail, and hasn't been presented in a very linear manner. The development of the concept is described in this section to minimize confusion; for details of their history and actions in specific bits of fiction, see below.

The very earliest seeds of the Thirteen can probably be found in material produced by [[3H Productions]] for [[BotCon]], most notably 2000's "[[Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Covenant]]". This story introduces the undeniably similar concept of the [[Covenant]], a group of twelve zodiac-themed Transformers who are the first creations of [[Primus]], created as a test-run for the Transformer race. Despite the basic similarity between the Covenant and the Thirteen, though, the two groups have not been connected, and those same stories by 3H would ultimately contradict the later lore of the Thirteen by introducing [[Primon]], a Matrix-bearer who preceded [[Prima]], which should not be possible.
[[Image:Vectorprimeut.jpg|right|thumb|[[Fun Publications]] established [[Vector Prime]] to be a member of the Thirteen in 2005.]]
It was in the pages of 2004's ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'' that the mysterious "Thirteen Original Transformers" were first spoken of, and their basic origin was laid down: they were the first Transformers created by Primus to battle Unicron, and their number included [[Prima]], the first Matrix bearer from the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics series]] and [[The Fallen]], an enigmatic servant of Unicron from [[Dreamwave Productions]]' 2003 comic, ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages]]''. The book also noted that if ''[[Alignment]]'' had been published, the [[Liege Maximo]], an ancient evil Cybertronian from the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (Marvel)|''Generation 2'' comics]], would have been counted among them as well. Although it was the creator of all three of these characters, [[Simon Furman]], who wrote the guide, it remains unknown whether the Thirteen were Furman's idea, created for the guide, which would later be taken and run with by Hasbro, or a Hasbro-initiated concept that Furman included at their direction. Furman also created the Covenant, but it is similarly unknown whether or not he was deliberately drawing upon his old idea when he introduced the Thirteen in this book.

The concept of the Thirteen quietly bubbled under for the next year, until another element was added with the introduction of [[Vector Prime]] in 2005's ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' series. Although presented merely as a very ancient Autobot in the original Japanese version of the ''Cybertron'' cartoon, Hasbro envisioned him as one of the Thirteen, and writer [[Forest Lee]] made this explicit in [[Vector Prime: In the Beginning|the first story]] produced for the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]]. This story also introduced the idea that all of the Thirteen were Primes, and that each had a specific function or purpose; Vector Prime's was stewardship of time, while a 2007 [[bio]] written for The Fallen's ''[[Titanium Series]]'' toy would later reveal he was the overseer of entropy.
[[Image:NexusPrimeflankedbyotherPrimes.jpg|left|thumb|Fun Publications also introduced the first [[combiner]], [[Nexus Prime]].]]
While it was not immediately apparent, Hasbro had put a plan in motion for the Thirteen with the Collectors' Club comic: across the next five years, five separate robots were introduced who were gradually revealed to components of a combiner, [[Nexus Prime]], who was one of the Thirteen. During this five-year span, the subject of the Thirteen often came up at BotCon Q&A sessions, during which the idea of them being [[multiversal singularity|multiversal singularities]] solidified.

Also during this time, current Transformers comic license holders [[IDW Publishing]] spoke often of a potential comic book mini-series about the Thirteen to be written by Simon Furman, but this was eventually nixed, with Furman noting in 2009 that this was because it had "become more of a Hasbro thing than an IDW thing."<ref>[http://hombreimaginario.deviantart.com/art/Interviews-10-Simon-Furman-130246343 Furman talks about the Thirteen in an interview on DeviantArt]</ref> Hasbro's desire to control and fully conceptualize the story of the Thirteen was further made evident when, after Fun Publications' [[Image:TransformersVault-Prima.jpg|right|thumb|The new design for [[Prima]] was revealed at [[BotCon 2010]].]] Nexus Prime story concluded in the same year, they effectively took "custody" of the character as part of their future plans. This control, however, was evidently not all-encompassing: also in 2009, the Fallen made a surprising appearance as the titular villain of the second-live action Transformers film, ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', where he was a member not of a group of thirteen, but only ''seven'' Primes. Hasbro's [[Hasbro_Q&A/October_2009#AllSpark.com|October 2009 online Q&A]] retroactively justified this by explaining that while all the Thirteen were Primes, only seven actually had the word "Prime" ''in their names''.

Eventually, in 2010, the grand scope of the new [[Aligned continuity family]] became the "delivery method" for Hasbro's long-percolating tale of the Thirteen. The novel ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]'' revealed [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] to be one of the Thirteen, and although this proved a bit questionable, as he had previously been shown to have an alternate evil "[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" self, which a multiversal singularity should not, it did confirm the earlier allegation that not all the Primes had "Prime" in their name. The novel also revealed the Fallen's real name to be Megatronus Prime, and his pre-Fallen design was revealed at [[BotCon 2010]], along with new designs for Prima, Vector Prime, Alpha Trion and the Liege Maximo, the latter now officially canonized as a member of the group. A year later, at [[BotCon 2011]], [[Solus Prime]] was also named and revealed, and it was explained that each of the Thirteen represented one aspect of the Transformer race, their ranks also including a beast-mode Transformer and a [[Minicon]]. Solus would later factor into the ''[[Transformers: Exiles]]'' novel, which also introduced [[Amalgamous Prime]] and [[Alchemist Prime]]. Right around this time, the story of the Thirteen finally made the leap to the small screen, when, after years of being consigned to fan-targeted comics and convention panels, their origin tale was told in the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' episode, "[[One Shall Rise, Part 1]]".

And that's the story... so far!
{{--}}

==Members==
[[Image:OneShallRise1-WellofAllSparks.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
The following members of the Thirteen have been revealed:

*'''[[Prima]]''', the first [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix-bearer]] and first Transformer born from Cybertron, leader of the 13.<ref>''Sentinel Prime was one of a dynasty of Primes, stretching back to the original '''13 Transformers''' and their leader, Prima.'' — ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'' (2005) 1st ed p15, "Sentinel Prime"</ref> He was a warrior of light who used a [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] with the Matrix as its hilt.
*'''Megatronus Prime''', formerly the guardian of entropy and warrior of darkness, now a [[herald of Unicron]] known as '''[[The Fallen]]'''.
*'''[[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]]''' who can see the past, present, and future, and who holds the [[Covenant of Primus]] and the [[Quill]]. He maintains a close relationship with Primus through [[Vector Sigma]].
*'''[[Vector Prime]]''', the guardian of space and time who spent most of his life outside the multiverse, observing it and occasionally stepping in to help.
*'''[[Nexus Prime]]''', the first and greatest combiner, unpredictable, fascinated by change, and a lighthearted prankster.
*'''[[Solus Prime]]''', a [[female Transformer|female]] weaponsmith.
*'''[[Liege Maximo]]''', the ultimate evil counterforce of good.<ref>Liege Maximo was confirmed in [[Simon Furman]]'s "[[Alignment]]" story as one of the Thirteen, but that story was "unofficial" and of debatable canonicity. He was later confirmed by Hasbro to be amongst the Thirteen, as part of their "Once Upon a Time on Cybertron" project at [[BotCon 2010]].</ref>
*'''[[Alchemist Prime]]''', co-founder of Cybertronian civilization.
*'''[[Amalgamous Prime]]''', the trickster
*The [[Beast Prime|first Transformer with a beast mode]]<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=79726 AllSpark.com live transcript of Archer and Alvarez's 2011 BotCon panel]</ref>
*The [[Minicon Prime|first Minicon]]<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/conventions-15/botcon-2011-hasbro-story-building-panel-172316/ TFW coverage of Botcon 2011 Hasbro Story Building Panel]</ref>

==Fiction==

===Dreamwave ''Generation 1'' comics===
[[Image:Thefallen.jpg|right|thumb|250px]]
[[The Fallen]] was thwarted in his attempt to sabotage Primus's physical form, and the Thirteen allegedly died after casting The Fallen and his master Unicron through a [[black hole]] into another dimension. In truth, The Fallen was imprisoned in another dimension, while [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] kept watch over the Transformers in the [[Well of All Sparks]] while Primus entered his eternal sleep to hide Cybertron from Unicron. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}}

===Fun Publications===
Vector Prime aided the Autobots in finding the [[Cyber Planet Key]]s to close the [[Unicron Singularity]]. He regularly reported their progress to [[Alpha Trion (Energon)|Alpha Trion]], but during one visit Unicron's servants [[Ramjet (Universe)|Ramjet]] and [[Nemesis Prime (Universe)|Nemesis Prime]] attacked. {{storylink|Balancing Act}} [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] came to Cybertron looking for clues to his past, only to be attacked by [[Scorponok (Energon)|Dark Scorponok]], {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 2}} but his forcefield protected him. Ramjet offered him clues to his past in exchange for his <s>soul</s> service. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 3}} They went to Primus's spark core to destroy him with the [[Dead Matrix]], but Vector and [[Sentinel Maximus]] fought back. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Part 4}} Ramjet said he would stop trying to kill Primus if Vector aided them in restoring the balance by resurrecting Unicron, but he refused. {{storylink|Balancing Act, Pt 5}} Skyfall tried to save Ramjet but his forcefield only ignited an explosion that killed Ramjet. {{storylink|Revelations Part 1}} Vector had drones repair Skyfall and found [[Omega Prime]]—Trion's creation from a [[Viron]] universe—had helped Sentinel defeated Nemesis. Omega's presence saddened Vector, as it confirmed the multiverse was falling apart, and he left. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}

Skyfall was helping Sentinel repair Vector Sigma, when [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]] informed him he had found a twenty million cycle old carving of him and another bot. {{storylink|Revelations Part 4}} Immediately during a battle between [[Mini-Con]] Autobots and Decepticons, Skyfall found Landquake. {{storylink|Revelations Part 5}} The two seemingly vanished when Unicron attacked, {{storylink|Revelations Part 6}} when they had been transported to [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]]'s universe, {{storylink|Crossing Over, Part 1}} and the trio and went through a [[space bridge]] {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}} to find [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] in [[Axiom Nexus]]. [[Cheetor (TransTech)|Cheetor]] and [[Silverbolt (TransTech)|Silverbolt]] introduced the trio to [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]]. However, [[Shockwave (TransTech)|Shockwave]] had Breakaway quietly subdued and taken to his laboratory. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 1}} Skyfall and Landquake realized Breakaway was gone, but Alpha Trion told them to come with him if they wanted to rescue their brother from the evil TransTechs. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 2}} He explained he was not from this dimension and was part of a resistance movement, introducing them to Topspin, whose job was to transfer their [[lowtech]] followers' sparks into their TransTech counterparts. Realizing Topspin was one of their kin, Skyfall and Landquake agreed to help. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 3}} [[Nightscream (TransTech)|Nightscream]] found Breakaway was being held near the portal to Alpha Trion's dimension, {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 4}} and his acolytes attacked, rescuing Breakaway {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 5}} and entering the transwarp device. Alpha Trion explained to Skyfall he was the key to the reunification, and stabbed and killed him as they entered his universe. {{storylink|Transcendent: Part 6}}
[[Image:Reunification5-arisenexusprime.jpg|left|thumb|350px]]
Despite his claim his was a peaceful world, Alpha Trion shot [[Downshift (SG)|Downshift]], and Breakaway realized Skyfall had been killed by an energy blade rather than shot from behind as the old Autobot claimed. Alpha Trion's troops arrived, took the four components and he proclaimed he would kill them all—as reunification still worked with one of them dead—and that his reign would begin. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 1}} Landquake manipulated the raw energon and used smokebombs to escape with Topspin and Breakaway carrying Skyfall. Weeks later, after trying unsuccessfully to revive Skyfall, {{storylink|Reunification: Part 2}} the [[Quintesson]] [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] appeared to take them to [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 3}} Landquake explained their situation to the Decepticons, and Megatron asked [[Cyclonus (SG)|Cyclonus]] to bring [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]], but then Cyclonus, revealing himself to be an agent of Alpha Trion, assassinated Megatron. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 4}} Breakaway suggested they use their powers to revive Megatron, and found themselves in a white space with Skyfall and Primus. They made their choice: Nexus Prime was reborn. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}} Nexus resurrected Megatron as Galvatron and defeated [[Omega Doom]]. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}} Using Galvatron's gift of the [[Stellar Spanner]], Nexus and Aquarius began dimension-hopping to find the shards of the [[Star Saber (Prima)|artifact]] he had been entrusted with, so he could complete his memories. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 1}}
{{-}}
===Live-action film series===
{{main|Dynasty of Primes}}
[[Image:ROTF-sixprimes.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The Primes in the Matrix/Allspark/surreal part of Primus's imagination.]]
The Primes were the guardians of the [[AllSpark]], charged with replenishing it. They commanded [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]] and [[Constructicon (ROTF)|workers]] to find stars and replenish the AllSpark with their energy. The Fallen began seeing himself as the AllSpark's chosen one and began destroying solar systems with sentient life to replenish the Cube. His brothers warned him not to do it again, so The Fallen tried it again on [[Earth]] to lure them. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 3|Tales of the Fallen #3}} The Fallen slaughtered all his brothers bar Prima himself, who gathered his brothers' lifeforce to trap The Fallen in his [[sarcophagus]]. Prima sacrificed himself to form a [[Tomb of the Primes|tomb]] with his brothers' bodies to hide the Matrix. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}}

A long time passed, and The Fallen was eventually dug up. From his prison, he pushed [[Megatron (Movie)|High Protector Megatron]] into forming the Decepticons. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2|Defiance #2}} Thousands of years later, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], the sole surviving descendant of the Primes to survive The Fallen's rampage, {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen issue 3|Revenge of the Fallen #3}} had been killed. The Primes appeared to [[Sam Witwicky]], giving him the Matrix to revive Optimus, and Optimus avenged The Fallen's brothers by killing him. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

{{note|The ''Revenge of the Fallen'' adaptations have thirteen Primes. While designs were made for twelve non-Fallen Prime heads, the finished film shows only seven Primes, and this change was followed in ''[[Transformers: Tales of the Fallen|Tales of the Fallen]]'' and [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|the Titan magazine]]. Prima's appearance was retconned by Hasbro at [[BotCon 2010]].}}

===Aligned continuity===

{{note|"Anything you know from past generations of the brand may or may not be factual in the new continuity."<ref>[[Hasbro Q&A/September 2010: Answers|Hasbro Q&A, September 2010: {{SITENAME SHORT}}]]</ref><ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74182 Hasbro Q&A, September 2010: AllSpark.com]</ref>}}

[[Image:OneShallRise1-TheThirteen.jpg|left|thumb|400px|They're not a fan of direct lighting.]]

Legend says that [[Primus]] created the Thirteen to defeat [[Unicron]]. The Thirteen succeeded, and Unicron's defeated form was cast by them into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Statues of the Thirten were created at some point after they defeafed Unicron {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

What is known about the Primes is that their war made "enemies of brothers, murderers of lovers, heroes of the insignificant, and cowards of the mighty". Allegiances formed and broke apart: Megatronus refused to bow before his brothers, and he believed he would be vindicated someday despite his destructive methods. The murder of one sent them across the stars, to battle among themselves for billions of cycles. Finally, there came a time when Prima had to relinquish the Matrix. Afterwards, the [[Covenant of Primus]] decreed Cybertron could only have one Prime at a time.

[[Image:OneShallRise1-Thirteenattack.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Three seconds of one episode made up for a lifetime of lack of Thirteen images.]]

[[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] remained on Cybertron, recording these events into the Covenant, and the Primes became myths doubted by [[Jazz (WFC)|some]]. Alpha Trion retreated into becoming the Archivist of the [[Hall of Records]] when [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Sentinel Prime]], the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]] and the [[Guilds of Cybertron]] ignored his protests about the [[caste system]]. The Matrix did not bestow itself onto another until the unworthy Sentinel died, and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] was imbued with it, while his nemesis had become known as [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], who like his namesake had come to destroy that he believed in. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}
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==Notes==

*''Transformers: The Ultimate Guide'' asserts that all of the Thirteen were destroyed in the early battle between Primus and Unicron, but the statement was disproven by the book itself, since it recounted how The Fallen was not destroyed but exiled to a transdimensional prison from which he later escaped. Fun Publications comics would later depict Vector Prime as the sole surviving member of the Thirteen, and then go on to introduce Nexus Prime as a co-survivor alongside him.

* ''The Ultimate Guide'' made mention of a rumor on Cybertron that [[Maccadam]] — proprietor of [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]] — was supposedly one of the 13 and that his bar existed outside the normal flow of space-time. The prose story "[[Prime Spark]]" confirms the latter half of that rumor, depicting the bar as a multiversal nexus of sorts, but it makes no revelations about Maccadam himself. [[Aaron Archer]] has declared that when the full identities of the Thirteen are revealed [[soon|in the foreseeable future]], Maccadam will not be among them. Moral of the story: rumors are dumb.

*According to the words the [[Last Autobot]] spoke "Since Cybertron's Creation, I have slumbered within the planet, awaiting a time long foreseen by your creator, Primus", it can be inferred that the Last Autobot might be one of the Thirteen.

* The ''[[Beast Wars Reborn]]'' text story establishes that [[Soundblaster (Cybertron)|Logos Prime]]—also known as Soundblaster—is an "ancient", has incredible powers over space and time, and is "one of [Vector Prime's] own", which all combine with his title to strongly suggest that he is one of the Thirteen. Additionally, the silhouetted image of the Thirteen produced by [[Yuji Kaida]] for [[TakaraTomy]]'s ''[[World of the Transformers]]'' web site (written by [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]], author of the ''Beast Wars Reborn'' story) includes a shadowed figure closely resembling Logos Prime, seemingly cementing TakaraTomy's (or at least Ichikawa's) intention that he be part of the group. However, a non-committal Hasbro Q and A [[Hasbro_Q%26A/May_2010:_Answers|answer]] suggests that they won't be including him in their definitive canonical list of Thirteen.

*In Hasbro Q&A on October, 2009 from [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=63609 ''The Allspark Forum''], The Thirteen are referred to as "the Original Epic Warriors of Cybertron" by Hasbro.

*The notion of the Primes being originally huge is similar to early ''Revenge of the Fallen'' concepts where the Fallen dwarfed Optimus and was almost the size of a pyramid, as evident from [[Defiance issue 4|''Defiance'' #4]] and the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novelization]].

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Nexus Prime

2012-02-01T03:51:40Z

Karhukjnsi: Information concerning the Samsung phone.

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[[Image:NexusPrimeflankedbyotherPrimes.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Insert batteries where?!]]
One of the [[Thirteen]], '''Nexus Prime''' was created to guard [[Rarified Energon]] by [[Primus]] shortly after he assumed his planet form, and was known for being an honorable and good-natured warrior.

He is sometimes, unfortunately, known as '''Nexus Maximus'''.

==Fiction==
===Fun Publications===
Nexus Prime, [[Vector Prime]], and [[Alpha Trion (disambiguation)|Alpha Trion]] made a decision to scatter Nexus Prime across the cosmos to conceal the location of the remains of [[Prima]]'s [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]] sword, a weapon that could destroy star systems. Using the blade of the Star Saber, Nexus Prime was cut into five other robots: [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]], [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]], [[Breakaway (Classics)|Breakaway]], [[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]], and [[Heatwave (Timelines)|Heatwave]], who were subsequently lost to the ages.

But the skills of Nexus Prime are needed once again, and now that his components have been called together by Primus, he searches the multiverse for the components to the Star Saber sword, armed with his masterful control over all uses of [[energon]], and ability to manipulate [[spark]]s.

====''Classics''====
[[Image:Clubcombinercarving.jpg|200px|thumb|They drew his limbs arranged incorrectly!]]
The [[Caretaker]] told its components that Nexus Prime was "designated a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]", like the other original thirteen. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 6}}

====Shattered Glass====

When Landquake, Breakaway, Topspin, and Heatwave made an attempt to use their powers to revive the recently-assassinated [[Megatron (SG)|Megatron]], they were transported—along with a revived Skyfall—to the presence of [[Primus]] in the "afterlife". He gave them a choice of living (or staying dead) as they were, or being reborn as what they were meant to be. After the gestalt members made their deliberations, Primus declared, "The choice is made. Arise, Nexus Prime," as they started the transformation. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 5}}

[[Image:OmegaDoomNexusPrimeGalvatron.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Behold the fingers my toy totally doesn't have!]]

Nexus Prime reformatted the dead Megatron into the powerful Galvatron, investing in him some of the power of the Thirteen. The two exited the Decepticon stronghold to counter [[Omega Doom]]'s offensive, but they were forced to split up when Doom launched a starkilling missile into Cybertron's sun. Though his Decepticon components protested leaving the battle, Nexus Prime knew saving this Cybertron's star system was of more immediate importance. Regardless, he was too late in stopping the missile, and its energies began to destroy the sun. Nexus began to concentrate.

Nexus returned to Cybertron triumphant, having used his own powers to negate those of the starkilling missile, and he made short work of Omega Doom, saving Galvatron in the nick of time. Though there was more on this Cybertron to do, such as finishing [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]] once and for all, Nexus Prime knew he had to leave for another universe. After saying goodbye to [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], he entered a portal with [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]], trusting fate to bring him to the correct destination. {{storylink|Reunification: Part 6}}

====''Wings Universe''====
Nexus Prime and Aquarius traveled from world to world, but without finding what Nexus Prime was looking for. Eventually, the pair arrived on a [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] where they were attacked by a group of smaller Decepticons who thought they had an easy mark. Though Nexus Prime was unwilling to use his more supernatural powers, lest he draw unwanted attention towards himself, he was still able to easily beat their attackers. As they left the group of dazed Decepticons behind, Nexus Prime and Aquarius wandered through a Cybertronian marketplace. Finally, Nexus Prime began to drop hints about what [[Star Saber (Prima)|mysterious artifact]] he was looking for; he hadn't yet clued Aquarius in. Ultimately, Nexus Prime spotted a shipping container with an [[Cybertron Elite Guard]] symbol on it. This unlocked a memory in the ancient Transformer, allowing him to determine their next destination. He and Aquarius vanished through another portal to yet another Cybertron, his future travels to be potentially unchronicled. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 1}}

===''Prime'' cartoon===
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According to legend, at the beginning of time, [[Unicron]] and [[Primus]] battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Till, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

===''Exiles''===
Known as the "Wizard of Forms", Nexus Prime was all about change and mutability. (A trait he shared with the trickster [[Amalgamous Prime]].) He was the first and greatest combiner, and able to merge together any robots into new combined forms at will, or separate himself into multiple independent components. When standing alone, his body seems to shift or be overlaid with ever changing forms and combinations he might take.

Powerful, proud, and frequently unpredictable even to those who knew him best, Nexus Prime was also full of good humor and could even be a bit of a prankster at times (though [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] reports not recalling ever having laughed at one of his jokes). He was the "mad experimenter" of the Thirteen. Nexus was fascinated by changing states of matter and the creation of new elements in solar forges. This shared affinity for creation lead [[Solus Prime]], the "Maker" of the Thirteen, to have special (some have speculated, romantic) feelings for Nexus, which in turn seems to have earned him the enmity of [[The Fallen|Megatronus Prime]] and [[Liege Maximo]]. Megatronus killed Solus Prime in an act of rage, one that drove a wedge between the remaining Thirteen.

After the defeat of Liege Maximo's schemes, Nexus Prime took custody of many of Solus Prime's creations, including the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]], the [[Cyber Caliber]], the [[Blades of Time]], and his own [[Omni Blade]]. The Omni Blade was a part of Nexus Prime's body, and he secreted the Cyber Caliber away inside his form as well before splitting himself into five component robots: [[Clocker (Prime)|Clocker]], [[Mainspring]], [[Chaindrive]], [[Pinion]], and [[Cannonspring]]. Each component held a fraction of the Cyber Caliber within themselves, and was also charged with guarding one of the Blades of Time. Only by assembling the Blades of Time and using them to open a gateway to the hollow realm of Vector Prime could the power of the Cyber Caliber as well be reassembled. What happened to the Star Saber is unknown (perhaps intentionally) but Alpha Trion believed that Nexus Prime left it in the care of another before separating himself.

The sub-selves of Nexus Prime scattered throughout the colony worlds of Cybertron. They remained apart for so long that each forgot their true nature, and no longer recalled being part of Nexus Prime or the Thirteen. All but Cannonspring even forgot their duty to safeguard the Blades of Time and the Cyber Caliber. Clocker and Mainspring wound up on [[Velocitron]], where they remained slightly out of place as mechanics instead of the speed-driven racers who ruled the planet. Pinion ended up on [[Junkion]], assimilating well into the culture (perhaps because the Junkion way of constantly reusing materials appealed to the subconscious preference of Nexus Prime for change). Chaindrive found himself on Cybertron, and eventually became part of the Autobot resistance movement alongside [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]] and Alpha Trion after the Ark's departure. Cannonspring ended up in a crippled ship in Cybertron's deep orbit, until the prospector [[Axer (Prime)|Axer]] triggered some latent transwarp energy on board, transporting them both to Junkion. Cannonspring remained inert for over a million years inside his ship after they crashed.

Nexus Prime began to come together once more thanks to the Matrix, which directed Optimus Prime through space to the various colony worlds. As the Ark came to Velocitron, Optimus discovered two pieces of the Blades of Time and fatefully agreed to bring Clocker and Mainspring on the next leg of his journey when they asked. On Junkion, Prime encountered Pinion while recovering a third Blade, and the fourth was retrieved from Axer. Meanwhile, back on Cybertron, Alpha Trion and [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] concocted a method of sending a scout after Optimus Prime by keying residual Space Bridge energy to the signature of the Matrix. Instinctively, Alpha Trion decided Chaindrive was the proper choice, and he brought with him the fifth Blade. Once all five Blades and the other four components assembled on Junkion, the combined energy was enough to rekindle the inert Cannonspring, bringing him back to full functioning and allowing them to reassemble into Nexus Prime.

Displaying the ability to hold more weapons than an armory, Nexus Prime pulled forth his Omni Blade and passed the Cyber Caliber over to Optimus Prime. Although he refused to kill anyone, Nexus Prime essentially held off the Decepticons and the [[Star Seeker]]s for a time, on intimidation alone. As [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] and [[Thundertron]] left to pursue other goals, Nexus Prime reclaimed his swords and gave some last words of encouragement to Optimus Prime before splitting himself once more. Reduced to a set of five protoforms, Nexus Prime vanished into space and the annals of history once more. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

{{Note|While the connection between Aligned continuity and the rest of the multiverse is often tenuous, this ending leaves open the possibility that Nexus Prime next moved through time, space and dimensions to become the five robots depicted in the [[Fun Publications]] storyline.}}

==Toys==
===Cybertron, Classics, and Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-NexusMaximus.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Remember to use the instructions! You don't want to put something in the wrong hole.]]
*'''Nexus Maximus''' (2009)
:Nexus Maximus is composed of his five team members, with Heatwave forming his central body component. His limbs' [[energon weapon]]s form his hands and feet. Similarly to [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'s [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-type combiner teams, Nexus Maximus (as well as [[Superion Maximus]], [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]] and [[Constructicon Maximus]]) features universal connection points for the limbs, allowing many different combinations and even swapping of limbs from different teams. His combined form's head was [[retool]]ed to give him a unique one, which is an amalgamation of visual elements of its components' own heads: Skyfall's eyes, Landquake's chin, Breakaway's forehead, Topspin's "mohawk", and Heatwave's "ears".

:Nexus Maximus is the combined form of the first five [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] freebie toys: Skyfall, Landquake, Breakaway, Topspin, and Heatwave.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/TFCCNexusMaximus/nexusmaximus.htm More information on Nexus Maximus at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
*It's hard to say what toyline Nexus Prime is from, as his components are from multiple franchises. How often does that happen?
*Nexus Prime's backstory bears a noticeable similarity to that of [[wikipedia:Voltron|Voltron]].
*Fun Publications stated at [[BotCon 2009]] that the official limb arrangement for Nexus Prime is that of the configuration in his instructions. With Landquake as the right arm, Breakaway as the left arm, Topspin as the right leg, and Skyfall as the left leg. Why he was depicted in a different arrangement in the caverns around the [[Caretaker]] no one knows.
*Ironically, despite being labeled as an Autobot, a majority of the Transformers that make up Nexus Prime are Decepticons, albeit ones that are [[Landquake (Timelines)|disenchanted by the Decepticon cause]], [[Topspin (Classics)|misled by deceitful leaders]], or [[Heatwave (Timelines)|a completely different kind of Decepticon]].
*Nexus Prime's TFCC profile mentions that he "no longer has an [[alternate mode]]", due to being split apart for so long and then reassembled.
*With his components released one at a time, one per year, he's the combiner toy it took the longest to complete in an official capacity.
*Nexus Prime is the second character in Transformers history to share a name with a mobile phone (the first being Optimus Prime, with the release of the LG Optimus). "Nexus Prime" was the production name for the "Galaxy Nexus" produced by Samsung for Google's "Nexus" line of Android OS-based phones.

===Naming issues===
[[Fun Publications]] originally submitted the possible names '''Prime Nexus''' and '''Maximus Prime''' to [[Hasbro]] for the character (reflecting the fact that the character is a Prime in-fiction), Hasbro rejected these, apparently because they are feeling protective towards the use of the name Prime (despite previously having approved the fiction that already named him a Prime, written by their own [[Forest Lee]]). Hasbro suggested merging the non-Prime segments of the two names instead... oops.

Apparently neither Hasbro nor Fun Publications did their research when naming Nexus Maximus, because there is another product which shares that name and was, as of [[May 24]], [[2009]], the top Google result (websites relating to this character have since surpassed it and the product page no longer exists). While it is definitely a "toy", it is most assuredly not intended for ages 5 and up. According to the Fun Publications Club panel at [[BotCon 2009]], Hasbro did a search for the name with "safe search" on, causing them to not see... well, ''that''.

When he finally appeared in person in fiction, his name was given as indeed being Nexus Prime. Which makes much better sense story-wise but deprives us of many cheap and easy joke opportunities. [[Pete Sinclair]] [http://www.transformersclub.com/members/transforum/msgs.cfm?forum=30&msg=116291 posted an image] on the [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] forums of [[Aquarius (SG)|Aquarius]] blaming the "Nexus Maximus" name on a bad translation by [[Beta Maxx]].

(The debate is still on as to whether Nexus Maximus constitutes a choking hazard.)

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Soundwave (WFC)

2012-02-01T03:45:29Z

Karhukjnsi: Ehh, removed "outwardly" from "demanded". Also a little cleanup concerning the pre-Earth story during "One Shall Rise pt 3."

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:''Soundwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:Soundwave Prime.jpg|thumb|300px||Despite appearances, that is not a [[mouthplate]].]]
'''Soundwave''' is the spy master of the Decepticons. One of [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s earliest followers, and, many believe, instrumental to his rise, he uses his tentacles and a veritable army of [[Mini-Con|Minicon]] [[Deployer (Prime)|Deployer]]s to learn everything there is to know about his allies and his enemies. He was never very chatty, but these days, on Earth, he's become near silent, communicating by playing back recordings of other people's conversations. He just sneaks about, patiently looking for Autobot transmissions and creeping [[Starscream (Prime)|you]] out. Since the incapacitation of Megatron, Soundwave acts as a restraint on [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], reining in his rather volatile emotions, and ensuring that Starscream's less than subtle ambitions are held in check.

Soundwave has the ability to receive transmissions from anywhere on the planet, bar the shielded Autobot Base. This allows him to spy on every being on the planet in the hopes of picking up Autobot-related communications.

{{quote|Watch out for the quiet ones.|[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]]|"[[One Shall Rise, Part 3]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Soundwave was a gladiator from [[Kaon]] who almost bested [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] in combat, an act that created mutual respect between the two. Soundwave saw in Megatron a desire to return to the swashbuckling spirit of the [[Golden Age]] of Cybertron, when Cybertronians emerged from the [[Well of All Sparks]] having to escape from the [[Underworld]]'s monsters rather than being put into a [[caste system|caste]]. He was appointed Megatron's lieutenant with [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]. Though Megatron despised Minicons, Soundwave insisted on having them around to spy on their gladiators, including the time when Megatron's librarian friend [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]] came to visit. He was suspicious of Orion and even asked permission from Megatron to tail him as he returned to [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]].

After [[Decepticon]]s bombed Cybertron in Megatron's name, Soundwave sent [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] to search for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] in [[Crystal City]] (a place which design he always found self indulgent). Soundwave was not sure whether he should have bothered, as he was not superstitious and wondered what use a piece of a [[Star Saber (Prima)|broken sword]] could be. Instead he got chilling indications Crystal City's scientists were planning to revive [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]].

[[Image:WFCcomicDecepticons.jpg|thumb|250px|"Yeah, this look is cool now, but I don't think I'll have it ''forever'': I mean, who'd like to see things looking the same for over twenty five years, right guys? ...guys?"]]

Soundwave attended Orion and Megatron's hearing before the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. During this meeting, Soundwave helped to sow discord and tension by loudly shouting his complaints over security breaches that, in truth, he himself had caused. The Council noted that they were aware someone had tried to find the Matrix, and they appointed Orion [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] and requested he find it. This tore Orion and Megatron's movement in two.

During the final days of the war, Soundwave and his minions' research changed the fate of Cybertron. It was they who found the areas of the [[DataNet]] that [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] had overlooked and not deleted, revealing the existence of [[Dark Energon]] on [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] Station. It was he who remembered the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] below Crystal City that allowed for the mass transportation of Dark Energon between Cybertron and Trypticon. And it was the evidence he got from Rumble and Frenzy when they infiltrated Crystal City that revealed the existence of the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] and its two [[Code Key]]s, which enabled Megatron to poison the [[Core]] of Cybertron.

When Optimus removed the Chamber from the Core, beginning the planet's slow healing process, Soundwave boarded the ''Nemesis'' with Megatron, [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] and [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]] to pursue the Autobot ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'' into the unknown reaches of space. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

===''Exiles''===
Soundwave regained consciousness onboard the ''Nemesis'' after emerging from the energy field created by the Space Bridge explosion over Cybertron. While Megatron demanded a status report, Soundwave was already deep at work in a console attempting to determine the answer. Along with Starscream and Megatron, Soundwave examined the tracking reports and confirmed Starscream's assumption that the ''Ark'' was likely not too far away.
{{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

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===''Prime'' cartoon===
When a gladiator calling himself Megatronus vowed to challenge Cybertron's leadership, Soundwave was his first follower and chief amongst them. Soundwave remained at Megatronus' side, now Megatron, as the conflict escalated into a war. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

During the Decepticon attack on [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]], Soundwave intercepted [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]'s comms talk. He later played it back to Starscream, prompting the Decepticon leader to send the drones after her. He later detected transmissions coming from deep space, that prompted the Decepticons to fire up the [[space bridge]], allowing Megatron to return. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}}

[[Image:DarknessRising5-Soundwaveturn.jpg|right|thumb|200px|He's not shuttershy. He's also not Fluttershy.]]
Shortly after Megatron left the ship on a mission, Starscream wondered aloud if Megatron had a touch of space madness, and Soundwave reminded him that their absent leader was still in charge. Starscream told him to step up global surveillance. Soundwave subsequently intercepted a transmission from [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]] and, on Starscream's order, dispatched [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] to capture the agent to learn the location of the [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Autobot base]]. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}} When the Autobots attacked the ''Nemesis'' to retrieve Fowler, slaughtering dozens of their soldiers, Soundwave hid. He simply watched when Megatron returned and took his fury out on Starscream on the bridge for not waiting on his command. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}

Starscream sent Soundwave to a radio telescope array in [[Texas]] as they needed to use the array to target the space bridge at [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Soundwave hacked into the computer network at the site, but after he had lined up the dishes, someone realigned them. In response to Starscream's demands as to what was happening, he tapped into the base's security system and discovered that the Autobots' three human friends were in a nearby room, similarly accessing the computer. He extended a tentacle into the room they were in and attacked them. When [[Miko Nakadai|Miko]] tried to chop the tentacle with an ax, Soundwave took it from her and used it to sever the computer system's hardline, locking the dishes on Cybertron. The three kids entered the room in time to see him leaving, and Miko and Soundwave snapped photos of each other.

[[Image:MastersStudents-Soundwavesradar.jpg|thumb|left|200px|See how much more convincing I am as a [[:Image:Cybertronsoundwave.jpg|communications tower]] with this look?]]

Because of Soundwave's success, the Autobots resorted to sabotaging the space bridge, blowing it up and taking Megatron with it. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}} At Starscream's order, Soundwave activated the comm system so Starscream could give a speech to the troops, declaring himself leader. Failing to impress the Vehicons, Starscream pressed Soundwave's sensors into locating [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]], a Decepticon secreted in a pod in the desert. Starscream and Soundwave reactivated Skyquake, only to find he wasn't receptive to Starscream's leadership. Soundwave detected a Decepticon signal from the site where the space bridge exploded, and when Starscream went to investigate, Soundwave sent Laserbeak to keep Starscream honest while he himself filmed the battle between Skyquake and two Autobots. Though the fight ended detrimental to the Decepticon cause, Soundwave was able to ensure that Starscream returned Megatron's barely-functioning body to the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Soundwave intercepted a transmission from [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] who was heading for Earth. At Starscream's order, he downloaded the necessary information to [[Makeshift (Prime)|Makeshift]], who took on Wheeljack's form and infiltrated the Autobot base. As Starscream and Soundwave paid a visit to the captive Wheeljack, Soundwave prevented his leader from terminating their prisoner, as he might be of use later. The two 'Cons retired to the ship's top deck to wait for Makeshift to activate the [[GroundBridge]], however Wheeljack broke free and started trashing the Vehicons. When Wheeljack escaped through the ground bridge and sent back Makeshift with his grenade activated, Soundwave and Starscream made sure to get well clear before he exploded. {{storylink|Con Job}} During another Autobot operation, Soundwave listened in on their comms chatter, prompting Starscream to send some Vehicons to attack. {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

[[Image:Deusex-Soundwavecrouching.jpg|thumb|250px|And that's why there's no [[Ratbat (WFC)|Ratbat]].]]

When [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] mentioned seeing an [[Energon Harvester]] in a fresco in [[Greece]], Soundwave was able to track the device's location to a museum. Breakdown and [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] kept the Autobots busy in front of the museum while Soundwave sneaked in the back. He ran into Raf and Jack, who were already in the process of stealing the Harvester, and grabbed it from them before making a getaway in his vehicle mode. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}

[[Image:SickMind-Soundwaveobjects.jpg|thumb|250px|left|"Let me see some tenderness connected with a death, or that dark chamber, Spirit, which we left just now, will be forever present to me."]]

Starscream and Knock Out made a concerted attempt to convince Soundwave that Megatron was beyond saving, and that the only option left to them was euthanasia. Soundwave remained skeptical, and pointed out the patch cable that Arcee and Bumblebee was using to access Megatron's brain. Megatron's life support was damaged during the ensuing confusion, and though it seemed Starscream and Knock Out were content to leave Megatron flat-lining, Soundwave pressured them into reconnecting the cable sustaining their master. {{storylink|Sick Mind}}

After Megatron's resurrection, Soundwave kept him informed regarding Starscream's activities, including his attempt to resurrect Skyquake with the Dark Energon shard ripped from Megatron's chest, and the loss of his arm. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}} Soundwave watched as Breakdown was captured by [[MECH]], and reported back to Starscream. He was on the bridge of the ''Nemesis'' when Starscream passed the news on to Megatron, who was less than impressed that Breakdown had been taken by a bunch of humans. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}} He detected the magnetic anomaly caused by the [[polarity gauntlet]], causing Megatron to send Breakdown to go look for it. {{storylink|Metal Attraction}}

Megatron and Starscream headed to a stripped Energon Mine to discover mining drills still there. Starscream attempted to blame this on Soundwave. Megatron told Starscream that Soundwave had been filling him in on the second-in-command's activities. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}} Soundwave listened to Starscream's confessions after Megatron nearly terminated the second-in-command. {{storylink|Partners}}

When the new Decepticon space bridge was nearing completion, Soundwave supplied a diagram of the last component they needed. After they obtained said component, Megatron left the ship on a mission of his own. [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] began searching the ship for the Decepticon leader and Megatron instructed Soundwave to send Prime to him. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}}

[[Image:SoundwavePlayingSparkbeat..jpg‎|thumb|200px|He's playing Dubstep.]]

Soundwave translated tremors coming from the Earth's core into sound, revealing it to be a heartbeat. Megatron did not appreciate this, as it was making his head hurt. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

After Megatron left the ship to talk to [[Unicron]], Soundwave monitored the comms channels for his master's return. When [[Airachnid]] suggested considering a future without Megatron, Soundwave ominously looked at her. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

[[Image:Soundwavelayingdownthelaw.jpg‎|thumb|200px|left|YOU! SHALL NOT! PASS!]]
Soundwave continued to try to find some sign of Megatron. When Airachnid announced Megatron wasn't coming back and ordered the ship to [[Regulon Four]], Soundwave decided it was time to lay down the law. He defied Airachnid, who angrily attacked him, but the Decepticon spy master quickly proceeded to <strike>defeat</strike> <strike>demolish</strike> humiliate Airachnid. Upon Unicron's defeat, Soundwave detected Megatron's signal and activated the GroundBridge, bowing in respect with the other Decepticons as Megatron entered the bridge of the ship. He had to hold Breakdown back when they saw that Megatron was accompanied by Optimus Prime. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}
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===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
[[Image:Titan4.2 Soundwave listen.jpg|thumb|right|200px| You look different, Soundwave. Did you do something different with your entire face?]]
During the war, Soundwave took part in a mission led by Megatron to invade [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] and destroy the [[Iacon Energon Refinery]]. The team had barely made it in before Soundwave detected that they'd been spotted and the five Decepticons had to take cover. Following a failed gambit which expended the other three team members, Megatron gave Soundwave a bomb. While his leader caused a distraction, Soundwave ran to plant the bomb, only to be struck by blasts from [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|one of the defenders]]. Megatron picked up his wounded second-in-command and helped him to safety, along with the other three Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

Megatron and Soundwave somehow slipped some code into ''[[Invasionauts II]]'' to hypnotise Raf into opening the GroundBridge so they could send Vehicons through. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}

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==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]] (English), [[Claudio Moneta]] (Italian)
[[Image:Soundwave WfC GameInformer Concept Art.jpg|300px|Fans loved this but apparently Soundwave wasn't a G1 fan. |thumb|right]]
Soundwave took control of the orbital station [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] was posted at, helping [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] to reach the [[Dark Energon]] by establishing a forward base within the station. He then directed Megatron to a Data Matrix Center in order to find a route to the Dark Energon that had not been blocked by Starscream.

Later, Soundwave notified Megatron that access to the core was impossible, as it was guarded by the Omega Gate. He and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] accompanied Megatron as they led the assault on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], through which they would find and take the [[Omega Key]], opening the Omega Gate and allowing the core to be infused with Dark Energon. On their way to the [[Stellar Galleries]], Soundwave reported [[sniper (WFC)|sniper]]s, and after taking them down, Megatron infused the entrance with Dark Energon and took his team into the security station. Soundwave noticed that the batteries fed the security grid, and the trio infused each of them with Dark Energon, deactivating the security measures. Soundwave then detected the Omega Key behind their next door, and after opening it, the Decepticons arrived at the Stellar Galleries. They opened the container, finding not the key, but a message from [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], who announced that he had taken the Omega Key, anticipating Megatron's plan. Zeta sent Autobot attack forces against them, but they were swiftly taken down. Megatron ordered Soundwave to trace Zeta Prime's broadcast, and Soundwave found it came from 12.7 cycles ahead. He then noted a weak wall, and the Decepticons broke it down and entered the cities' subsystems, providing a direct route to Zeta, and the Omega Key.

The group descended down a shaft and went through a tunnel, avoiding trains on the way, and after breaking down a door in a ventilation area, they were ambushed by Autobot cloakers. Soundwave dispatched them and infused Dark Energon into the batteries. Megatron congratulated him, and then ordered him to unlock the exit. Soundwave obliged, and the trio found themselves in another tunnel. Breakdown challenged Soundwave to a race, to which the Decepticon responded, in his trademark monotone, "Negative." Tough crowd. Rushing through the tunnel, this time full of moving trains, the group came to a station where they infiltrated Iacon's lower levels. Soundwave detected the Omega Key at last, and suggested proceeding through the logistics station. Roughing it through the Autobot attackers, Soundwave finally determined that the key was beyond the train tunnels.

Soundwave and his teammates arrived at Iacon's main streets, where they met up with [[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]] outside of Zeta Prime's vaults, which were impervious to the small amount of Dark Energon Megatron was capable of channeling. After Megatron's squad helped Brawl clear the area, Brawl called in the Dark Energon bombers, but they were spectacularly shot down by the planetary guns. Brawl suggested disabling them, and Soundwave assisted in carrying out the plan. Autobots advanced all around, but Soundwave and the others managed to hold them off until the next wave of bombers arrived, clearing the street and destroying the Vault doors. Soundwave joined the others on their way to the entrance, but the squad was intercepted by a [[Destroyer (WFC)|Destroyer]]. Soundwave and Breakdown split from Megatron to flank him, and eventually they rendered him non-functional. Inside the vault, they avoided Zeta's traps and finally reached the Omega Key—but it too was a trap. Zeta then attacked them, using a giant hologram and controlling the chamber to his advantage, dropping the ceiling and sending holographic brutes to attack for him while safe within an impenetrable energy shield. (Even during the battle, Soundwave was impressed by the creation of endless energon clones, to which Breakdown responded, roughly, "NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD!") Soundwave's dorkiness proved useful in discerning the weakness of Zeta's machines—that the core rapidly overheated after prolonged use, and needed to open up in order to cool, rendering it vulnerable to attack. After the battle, Megatron plucked from Zeta's hand the "key"...which started to blink its lights and chirp. Zeta Prime informed them that the "key" he was actually a device that activated the real key: [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]].

As the three Decepticons flew away to track Omega, Soundwave noticed that the "key" was coming for them. Omega Supreme attacked, and thrust the Decepticons' star cruiser into a wall. Crash-landing, Megatron had a change of plans; force Omega Supreme to open the Omega Gate. Soundwave noticed a [[Decepticon Drop Ship]] across the bridge, but when the squad went to investigate, Omega Supreme intercepted them. Soundwave reported that his weapons were ineffective; Megatron told his soldiers to destroy the bridge supports, causing Omega Supreme's vast bulk to collapse it. But he transformed to his ship mode, flew back up, and forced the Decepticons to retreat inside. In a frenzy, Breakdown noted that the next door was locked, and Soundwave proposed that Dark Energon could open the door, which it did. Inside, Soundwave picked up a transmission from Starscream, who announced that he would be replacing the "deceased" Megatron as Decepticon leader. Enraged, Megatron threatened Starscream, but Soundwave informed his leader that communication to the surface had been cut off, so Starscream could not hear him.

The trio arrived at the lift, but found it to be locked down. Breaking the locks got the lift back to working condition, but on their way up, Omega Supreme returned and blasted it, forcing the Decepticons down the shaft at breakneck speed. Omega was still out there, so the emergency brakes' destruction was the Decepticons' only hope. At the bottom, they continued their journey to find a way to fight Omega Supreme—Soundwave noted that at the top of the tower were several heavy weapons emplacements which could at least theoretically damage Omega—but Omega Supreme didn't know the meaning of the word quit. (He really doesn't; not much in the processor department.) He grabbed the Decepticons, but Soundwave helped out in shooting Omega Supreme's hand, forcing him relinquishing the three from his grasp. They retreated inside a fortified Autobot position, and in order to prevent detection, Soundwave jammed their signals. Slaying the Autobots inside who dared attempt to counterattack, Soundwave unlocked the exit, which only let in more Autobots. They too, met their demise, but as Soundwave and his comrades escaped, he noticed that the Autobots' security was countering the effects of Dark Energon. Destroying the sentries turned to be a worthwhile solution, but then the Decepticons had to deal with Omega Supreme mining road. Soundwave's sensors indicated the presence of a bridge nearby, and though Breakdown was unsure, Megatron was willing to follow Soundwave's advice. Once again, Omega Supreme continued to stalk them, but Soundwave led his group to an alternate route...a dead end, to be precise, which Megatron was irritated with. Soundwave revealed that breaking a structurally-weak sealed doorway nearby took them to Iacon maintenance tunnels leading straight to the bridge terminal. When they arrived through the power conduits, Soundwave and the others fought through more Autobots and finally activated the bridge.

Racing across the bridge, they barely avoided Omega Supreme's pursuit, and Soundwave located another cargo lift that would transport them straight to the heavy ion turrets. On the lift he picked up several Autobot/Decepticon signals, a sign they were approaching the battle on the surface. Soundwave participated in the slugfest, and his analysis proved that the turrets nearby had enough firepower to legitimately damage Omega Supreme. Then, he showed no mercy using the turrets to breach Omega's armour and finally topple him to the ground below.

Soundwave, Breakdown, and Megatron followed Omega, and at the bottom, they were surprised to see him survive and transform into his mighty robot mode. Soundwave noted that energon batteries produced from within Cybertron were the source of Omega's limitless endurance, and further advised the team on battling Omega; avoiding his tractor beams would allow them to live, and his turrets were vulnerable, making them the prime target. When the turrets were blown, Soundwave saw that the batteries were being used to repair them, and so it became an objective to corrupt them with Dark Energon. When Omega Supreme used the batteries to heal himself, he was instead weakened, allowing the Decepticons to critically injure him. Omega Supreme was still alive even after all of that, but much weaker. Soundwave observed that his chest plating had been damaged, and Megatron ordered Soundwave and Breakdown to blast it, and Omega Supreme fell at last. Soundwave advised Megatron that now would be a good time to corrupt Omega with Dark Energon, but Megatron told Captain Obvious to shut up and did as he would have done even if Soundwave hadn't brought it up, laughing all the way.

After Cybertron's Core had been infected with Dark Energon, Soundwave was reassigned as head of [[Kaon]]'s prison, and watched over (i.e., tortured) Zeta Prime in his spare time. [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]], [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] and [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] led an Autobot breakout and battled Soundwave's minions [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]], [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]]. Soundwave himself sustained heavy damage leaving the safety of his position to revive and retrieve each Minicon, showing uncharaceristic concern for other living beings. Eventually, defeated and critically damaged, Soundwave desperately attempted to restore himself by absorbing life force from Zeta's very own spark. His attempt to fully heal was halted by Optimus, who even took a shot from the Decepticon intended to finish off Prime. Although Soundwave and his minions fled, the damage had already been done and Zeta Prime expired moments later. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]] (English)
Soundwave hacked into the Autobot mainframe and, while Megatron and some other Decepticons kept the Autobots distracted, downloaded intel indicating the location of the Trypticon space station. As they approached the station in Megatron's ship, Soundwave reported that the inhabitants were taking up defensive positions and docking would not be possible. Though Megatron was confident they could ram the station, Soundwave turned out to be right, and they could only get close enough to drop a small team off on the debris surrounding the station. When the station was conquered and Dark Energon in Megatron's hands, Soundwave suggested it might be a good idea to test the stuff prior to use. It turned out to be unstable, and he warned it could result in destruction of its host. The Decepticons set up Kaon Prison as a testing ground and, after eleven failures, established that the Dark Energon could be used. When Barricade asked what happened to the failures, Soundwave would only say that their remains laid in the prison and creepily ask Barricade to get in the chair so he too could be infused with Dark Energon.

Trypticon station required more power, so the Decepticons sent a team to Cybertron's core to reactivate the Energon Bridge. Soundwave did not anticipate the activation of latent defense systems, triggered by the Decepticon presence, because he hadn't studied the same ancient files as Starscream. Megatron ordered Soundwave to give Starscream whatever he needed, and they succeeded in activating the bridge. Soundwave reported that they were only at 37% power — the Autobots had severed the bridge's link to the core using the Omega Key. Lazerbeak intercepted an Autobot transmission indicating that Zeta Prime was hiding the Omega Key, and Megatron ordered Soundwave to assemble a strike force to obtain it. They managed to find and defeat the Autobot leader, but the Omega Key he had was only the key to awaken the real key — Omega Supreme. Once the Decepticons fought their way through the Autobot defenses, Soundwave reported they had reached Omega Supreme himself. The Decepticons defeated the giant, reestablished the link to the core and infused it with Dark Energon. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]] (English), [[Claudio Moneta]] (Italian)

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{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

===''Terrorcon Defense''===
[[Image:SoundwaveTerrorconDefense.jpg|300px|thumb|As awesome as he looks here, he's probably waltzing off after Bumblebee blasted him ''again''.]]
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{{storylink|Transformers Prime: Terrorcon Defense}}
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==Commercial appearances==
[[Image:WFC Gamestop Commercial.jpg|left|150px|thumb|The toy can do this if you try hard enough.]]
[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] arrived to a location where [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], and Soundwave were battling Autobots. Megatron left, leaving Shockwave in charge. Shockwave ordered Soundwave to [[Transformation|Transform]]. Soundwave changed into Cybertronian boombox mode and played [[The Touch]]. {{storylink|Commercial#War for Cybertron|GameSpot's commercial for their Shockwave multiplayer exclusive}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianSoundwave.jpg|thumb|300px|No [[Soundwave (Animated)|giant guitar]] this time!]]
*'''Cybertronian Soundwave''' (Deluxe, 2010)
:*''Accessories:'' two "weapons"

: This toy is based on Soundwave's appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', transforming into a Cybertronian SUV-type vehicle. Soundwave comes with his classic shoulder launcher and rifle, both of which can store inside his opening chest, approximating the visual of cassette spools. The weapons can also attach to either side of the vehicle mode. Soundwave's head features a [[light-piping]] gimmick, but the effect is largely neutered by his painted visor.

: This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#United|Soundwave Cybertron Mode]].
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===Prime: Robots in Disguise===
{{anchor|Revealer}}
[[Image:Primetoy-SoundwaveDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Toy doesn't talk, just like in the tv show!]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Revealer, 2012)
:*''Accessories:'' [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]]

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{{anchor|Cyberverse}}
*'''Soundwave''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
:*''Accessories:''

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==Notes==
[[Image:TfprimeSoundwavePredator.jpg|thumb|But can he replay footage of "[[Operation: Firestorm]]"?]]
*Soundwave transforms into a Cybertronian car during gameplay of ''War for Cybertron'', and his toy does the same, having only one alternate mode. However, in a ''War for Cybertron'' cutscene, the Gamestop commercial for Shockwave, and the end credits for ''War for Cybertron'', he is additionally shown to transform into a Cybertronian boombox, which the toy can technically do with some fiddling.

*Despite his toy and concept art appearance, Soundwave has a ''yellow'' visor in-game. [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Generation 1|''Hmmm''...]]

*His ''Prime'' alt-mode, on the other hand, is an unmanned aerial vehicle with a similar design to the General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper.

*According to the [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] biography, Soundwave [[Perceptor (Animated)|deleted his emotions to process information more quickly]], and is susceptible to [[Cyber Missions 1|too many sonic booms]].

*[[Duane Capizzi]] said Soundwave can speak, but just chooses not to. The decision was to contrast Soundwave with the overly talkative Starscream,<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/bonus-q--a-with-transformers-prime-creators---answered-171430/ TFW2005 Q&A January 2011]</ref> and at [[BotCon 2011]], the staff compared Soundwave to [[Boba Fett]]. Sorry, [[Frank Welker| Frank]], only [[Megatron (Prime)| one character]] for now...

* Soundwave's prehensile tentacles are remniscient of [[Soundwave (ROTF)|another Soundwave]], although they are significantly less naughty.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Soundwave''' (サウンドウェーブ ''Saundowēbu'')

==References==

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[[Category:Generations]]
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[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
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Soundwave (WFC)

2012-02-01T03:42:55Z

Karhukjnsi: Adding information from Soundwave's endeavors in Exiles.

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:''Soundwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[Image:Soundwave Prime.jpg|thumb|300px||Despite appearances, that is not a [[mouthplate]].]]
'''Soundwave''' is the spy master of the Decepticons. One of [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]'s earliest followers, and, many believe, instrumental to his rise, he uses his tentacles and a veritable army of [[Mini-Con|Minicon]] [[Deployer (Prime)|Deployer]]s to learn everything there is to know about his allies and his enemies. He was never very chatty, but these days, on Earth, he's become near silent, communicating by playing back recordings of other people's conversations. He just sneaks about, patiently looking for Autobot transmissions and creeping [[Starscream (Prime)|you]] out. Since the incapacitation of Megatron, Soundwave acts as a restraint on [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], reining in his rather volatile emotions, and ensuring that Starscream's less than subtle ambitions are held in check.

Soundwave has the ability to receive transmissions from anywhere on the planet, bar the shielded Autobot Base. This allows him to spy on every being on the planet in the hopes of picking up Autobot-related communications.

{{quote|Watch out for the quiet ones.|[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]]|"[[One Shall Rise, Part 3]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Exodus''===
Soundwave was a gladiator from [[Kaon]] who almost bested [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] in combat, an act that created mutual respect between the two. Soundwave saw in Megatron a desire to return to the swashbuckling spirit of the [[Golden Age]] of Cybertron, when Cybertronians emerged from the [[Well of All Sparks]] having to escape from the [[Underworld]]'s monsters rather than being put into a [[caste system|caste]]. He was appointed Megatron's lieutenant with [[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]. Though Megatron despised Minicons, Soundwave insisted on having them around to spy on their gladiators, including the time when Megatron's librarian friend [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Orion Pax]] came to visit. He was suspicious of Orion and even asked permission from Megatron to tail him as he returned to [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]].

After [[Decepticon]]s bombed Cybertron in Megatron's name, Soundwave sent [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] to search for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] in [[Crystal City]] (a place which design he always found self indulgent). Soundwave was not sure whether he should have bothered, as he was not superstitious and wondered what use a piece of a [[Star Saber (Prima)|broken sword]] could be. Instead he got chilling indications Crystal City's scientists were planning to revive [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]].

[[Image:WFCcomicDecepticons.jpg|thumb|250px|"Yeah, this look is cool now, but I don't think I'll have it ''forever'': I mean, who'd like to see things looking the same for over twenty five years, right guys? ...guys?"]]

Soundwave attended Orion and Megatron's hearing before the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. During this meeting, Soundwave helped to sow discord and tension by loudly shouting his complaints over security breaches that, in truth, he himself had caused. The Council noted that they were aware someone had tried to find the Matrix, and they appointed Orion [[Prime (rank)|Prime]] and requested he find it. This tore Orion and Megatron's movement in two.

During the final days of the war, Soundwave and his minions' research changed the fate of Cybertron. It was they who found the areas of the [[DataNet]] that [[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]] had overlooked and not deleted, revealing the existence of [[Dark Energon]] on [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]] Station. It was he who remembered the [[Geosynchronous Energon Bridge]] below Crystal City that allowed for the mass transportation of Dark Energon between Cybertron and Trypticon. And it was the evidence he got from Rumble and Frenzy when they infiltrated Crystal City that revealed the existence of the [[Plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]] and its two [[Code Key]]s, which enabled Megatron to poison the [[Core]] of Cybertron.

When Optimus removed the Chamber from the Core, beginning the planet's slow healing process, Soundwave boarded the ''Nemesis'' with Megatron, [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] and [[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]] to pursue the Autobot ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'' into the unknown reaches of space. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

===''Exiles''===
Soundwave regained consciousness onboard the ''Nemesis'' after emerging from the energy field created by the Space Bridge explosion over Cybertron. While Megatron outwardly demanded a status report, Soundwave was already deep at work in a console attempting to determine the answer. Along with Starscream and Megatron, Soundwave examined the tracking reports and confirmed Starscream's assumption that the ''Ark'' was likely not too far away.
{{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

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===''Prime'' cartoon===
When a gladiator calling himself Megatronus vowed to challenge Cybertron's leadership, Soundwave was his first follower and chief amongst them. Soundwave remained at Megatronus, now Megatron's side as the conflict escalated into a war. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

During the Decepticon attack on [[Cliffjumper (Prime)|Cliffjumper]], Soundwave intercepted [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]'s comms talk. He later played it back to Starscream, prompting the Decepticon leader to send the drones after her. He later detected transmissions coming from deep space, that prompted the Decepticons to fire up the [[space bridge]], allowing Megatron to return. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 1}}

[[Image:DarknessRising5-Soundwaveturn.jpg|right|thumb|200px|He's not shuttershy. He's also not Fluttershy.]]
Shortly after Megatron left the ship on a mission, Starscream wondered aloud if Megatron had a touch of space madness, and Soundwave reminded him that their absent leader was still in charge. Starscream told him to step up global surveillance. Soundwave subsequently intercepted a transmission from [[William Fowler|Agent Fowler]] and, on Starscream's order, dispatched [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]] to capture the agent to learn the location of the [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|Autobot base]]. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 3}} When the Autobots attacked the ''Nemesis'' to retrieve Fowler, slaughtering dozens of their soldiers, Soundwave hid. He simply watched when Megatron returned and took his fury out on Starscream on the bridge for not waiting on his command. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 4}}

Starscream sent Soundwave to a radio telescope array in [[Texas]] as they needed to use the array to target the space bridge at [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Soundwave hacked into the computer network at the site, but after he had lined up the dishes, someone realigned them. In response to Starscream's demands as to what was happening, he tapped into the base's security system and discovered that the Autobots' three human friends were in a nearby room, similarly accessing the computer. He extended a tentacle into the room they were in and attacked them. When [[Miko Nakadai|Miko]] tried to chop the tentacle with an ax, Soundwave took it from her and used it to sever the computer system's hardline, locking the dishes on Cybertron. The three kids entered the room in time to see him leaving, and Miko and Soundwave snapped photos of each other.

[[Image:MastersStudents-Soundwavesradar.jpg|thumb|left|200px|See how much more convincing I am as a [[:Image:Cybertronsoundwave.jpg|communications tower]] with this look?]]

Because of Soundwave's success, the Autobots resorted to sabotaging the space bridge, blowing it up and taking Megatron with it. {{storylink|Darkness Rising, Part 5}} At Starscream's order, Soundwave activated the comm system so Starscream could give a speech to the troops, declaring himself leader. Failing to impress the Vehicons, Starscream pressed Soundwave's sensors into locating [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]], a Decepticon secreted in a pod in the desert. Starscream and Soundwave reactivated Skyquake, only to find he wasn't receptive to Starscream's leadership. Soundwave detected a Decepticon signal from the site where the space bridge exploded, and when Starscream went to investigate, Soundwave sent Laserbeak to keep Starscream honest while he himself filmed the battle between Skyquake and two Autobots. Though the fight ended detrimental to the Decepticon cause, Soundwave was able to ensure that Starscream returned Megatron's barely-functioning body to the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Soundwave intercepted a transmission from [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]] who was heading for Earth. At Starscream's order, he downloaded the necessary information to [[Makeshift (Prime)|Makeshift]], who took on Wheeljack's form and infiltrated the Autobot base. As Starscream and Soundwave paid a visit to the captive Wheeljack, Soundwave prevented his leader from terminating their prisoner, as he might be of use later. The two 'Cons retired to the ship's top deck to wait for Makeshift to activate the [[GroundBridge]], however Wheeljack broke free and started trashing the Vehicons. When Wheeljack escaped through the ground bridge and sent back Makeshift with his grenade activated, Soundwave and Starscream made sure to get well clear before he exploded. {{storylink|Con Job}} During another Autobot operation, Soundwave listened in on their comms chatter, prompting Starscream to send some Vehicons to attack. {{storylink|Convoy (episode)|Convoy}}

[[Image:Deusex-Soundwavecrouching.jpg|thumb|250px|And that's why there's no [[Ratbat (WFC)|Ratbat]].]]

When [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] mentioned seeing an [[Energon Harvester]] in a fresco in [[Greece]], Soundwave was able to track the device's location to a museum. Breakdown and [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] kept the Autobots busy in front of the museum while Soundwave sneaked in the back. He ran into Raf and Jack, who were already in the process of stealing the Harvester, and grabbed it from them before making a getaway in his vehicle mode. {{storylink|Deus ex Machina}}

[[Image:SickMind-Soundwaveobjects.jpg|thumb|250px|left|"Let me see some tenderness connected with a death, or that dark chamber, Spirit, which we left just now, will be forever present to me."]]

Starscream and Knock Out made a concerted attempt to convince Soundwave that Megatron was beyond saving, and that the only option left to them was euthanasia. Soundwave remained skeptical, and pointed out the patch cable that Arcee and Bumblebee was using to access Megatron's brain. Megatron's life support was damaged during the ensuing confusion, and though it seemed Starscream and Knock Out were content to leave Megatron flat-lining, Soundwave pressured them into reconnecting the cable sustaining their master. {{storylink|Sick Mind}}

After Megatron's resurrection, Soundwave kept him informed regarding Starscream's activities, including his attempt to resurrect Skyquake with the Dark Energon shard ripped from Megatron's chest, and the loss of his arm. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}} Soundwave watched as Breakdown was captured by [[MECH]], and reported back to Starscream. He was on the bridge of the ''Nemesis'' when Starscream passed the news on to Megatron, who was less than impressed that Breakdown had been taken by a bunch of humans. {{storylink|Operation: Breakdown}} He detected the magnetic anomaly caused by the [[polarity gauntlet]], causing Megatron to send Breakdown to go look for it. {{storylink|Metal Attraction}}

Megatron and Starscream headed to a stripped Energon Mine to discover mining drills still there. Starscream attempted to blame this on Soundwave. Megatron told Starscream that Soundwave had been filling him in on the second-in-command's activities. {{storylink|Rock Bottom}} Soundwave listened to Starscream's confessions after Megatron nearly terminated the second-in-command. {{storylink|Partners}}

When the new Decepticon space bridge was nearing completion, Soundwave supplied a diagram of the last component they needed. After they obtained said component, Megatron left the ship on a mission of his own. [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] began searching the ship for the Decepticon leader and Megatron instructed Soundwave to send Prime to him. {{storylink|One Shall Fall}}

[[Image:SoundwavePlayingSparkbeat..jpg‎|thumb|200px|He's playing Dubstep.]]

Soundwave translated tremors coming from the Earth's core into sound, revealing it to be a heartbeat. Megatron did not appreciate this, as it was making his head hurt. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

After Megatron left the ship to talk to [[Unicron]], Soundwave monitored the comms channels for his master's return. When [[Airachnid]] suggested considering a future without Megatron, Soundwave ominously looked at her. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 2}}

[[Image:Soundwavelayingdownthelaw.jpg‎|thumb|200px|left|YOU! SHALL NOT! PASS!]]
Soundwave continued to try to find some sign of Megatron. When Airachnid announced Megatron wasn't coming back and ordered the ship to [[Regulon Four]], Soundwave decided it was time to lay down the law. He defied Airachnid, who angrily attacked him, but the Decepticon spy master quickly proceeded to <strike>defeat</strike> <strike>demolish</strike> humiliate Airachnid. Upon Unicron's defeat, Soundwave detected Megatron's signal and activated the GroundBridge, bowing in respect with the other Decepticons as Megatron entered the bridge of the ship. He had to hold Breakdown back when they saw that Megatron was accompanied by Optimus Prime. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}
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===Titan Magazines ''Prime'' comics===
[[Image:Titan4.2 Soundwave listen.jpg|thumb|right|200px| You look different, Soundwave. Did you do something different with your entire face?]]
During the war, Soundwave took part in a mission led by Megatron to invade [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] and destroy the [[Iacon Energon Refinery]]. The team had barely made it in before Soundwave detected that they'd been spotted and the five Decepticons had to take cover. Following a failed gambit which expended the other three team members, Megatron gave Soundwave a bomb. While his leader caused a distraction, Soundwave ran to plant the bomb, only to be struck by blasts from [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|one of the defenders]]. Megatron picked up his wounded second-in-command and helped him to safety, along with the other three Decepticons. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.2|War Story}}

Megatron and Soundwave somehow slipped some code into ''[[Invasionauts II]]'' to hypnotise Raf into opening the GroundBridge so they could send Vehicons through. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 4.4|Tinker, Tailor, Gamer, Spy!}}

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==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]] (English), [[Claudio Moneta]] (Italian)
[[Image:Soundwave WfC GameInformer Concept Art.jpg|300px|Fans loved this but apparently Soundwave wasn't a G1 fan. |thumb|right]]
Soundwave took control of the orbital station [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] was posted at, helping [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] to reach the [[Dark Energon]] by establishing a forward base within the station. He then directed Megatron to a Data Matrix Center in order to find a route to the Dark Energon that had not been blocked by Starscream.

Later, Soundwave notified Megatron that access to the core was impossible, as it was guarded by the Omega Gate. He and [[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]] accompanied Megatron as they led the assault on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], through which they would find and take the [[Omega Key]], opening the Omega Gate and allowing the core to be infused with Dark Energon. On their way to the [[Stellar Galleries]], Soundwave reported [[sniper (WFC)|sniper]]s, and after taking them down, Megatron infused the entrance with Dark Energon and took his team into the security station. Soundwave noticed that the batteries fed the security grid, and the trio infused each of them with Dark Energon, deactivating the security measures. Soundwave then detected the Omega Key behind their next door, and after opening it, the Decepticons arrived at the Stellar Galleries. They opened the container, finding not the key, but a message from [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]], who announced that he had taken the Omega Key, anticipating Megatron's plan. Zeta sent Autobot attack forces against them, but they were swiftly taken down. Megatron ordered Soundwave to trace Zeta Prime's broadcast, and Soundwave found it came from 12.7 cycles ahead. He then noted a weak wall, and the Decepticons broke it down and entered the cities' subsystems, providing a direct route to Zeta, and the Omega Key.

The group descended down a shaft and went through a tunnel, avoiding trains on the way, and after breaking down a door in a ventilation area, they were ambushed by Autobot cloakers. Soundwave dispatched them and infused Dark Energon into the batteries. Megatron congratulated him, and then ordered him to unlock the exit. Soundwave obliged, and the trio found themselves in another tunnel. Breakdown challenged Soundwave to a race, to which the Decepticon responded, in his trademark monotone, "Negative." Tough crowd. Rushing through the tunnel, this time full of moving trains, the group came to a station where they infiltrated Iacon's lower levels. Soundwave detected the Omega Key at last, and suggested proceeding through the logistics station. Roughing it through the Autobot attackers, Soundwave finally determined that the key was beyond the train tunnels.

Soundwave and his teammates arrived at Iacon's main streets, where they met up with [[Brawl (WFC)|Brawl]] outside of Zeta Prime's vaults, which were impervious to the small amount of Dark Energon Megatron was capable of channeling. After Megatron's squad helped Brawl clear the area, Brawl called in the Dark Energon bombers, but they were spectacularly shot down by the planetary guns. Brawl suggested disabling them, and Soundwave assisted in carrying out the plan. Autobots advanced all around, but Soundwave and the others managed to hold them off until the next wave of bombers arrived, clearing the street and destroying the Vault doors. Soundwave joined the others on their way to the entrance, but the squad was intercepted by a [[Destroyer (WFC)|Destroyer]]. Soundwave and Breakdown split from Megatron to flank him, and eventually they rendered him non-functional. Inside the vault, they avoided Zeta's traps and finally reached the Omega Key—but it too was a trap. Zeta then attacked them, using a giant hologram and controlling the chamber to his advantage, dropping the ceiling and sending holographic brutes to attack for him while safe within an impenetrable energy shield. (Even during the battle, Soundwave was impressed by the creation of endless energon clones, to which Breakdown responded, roughly, "NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD!") Soundwave's dorkiness proved useful in discerning the weakness of Zeta's machines—that the core rapidly overheated after prolonged use, and needed to open up in order to cool, rendering it vulnerable to attack. After the battle, Megatron plucked from Zeta's hand the "key"...which started to blink its lights and chirp. Zeta Prime informed them that the "key" he was actually a device that activated the real key: [[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]].

As the three Decepticons flew away to track Omega, Soundwave noticed that the "key" was coming for them. Omega Supreme attacked, and thrust the Decepticons' star cruiser into a wall. Crash-landing, Megatron had a change of plans; force Omega Supreme to open the Omega Gate. Soundwave noticed a [[Decepticon Drop Ship]] across the bridge, but when the squad went to investigate, Omega Supreme intercepted them. Soundwave reported that his weapons were ineffective; Megatron told his soldiers to destroy the bridge supports, causing Omega Supreme's vast bulk to collapse it. But he transformed to his ship mode, flew back up, and forced the Decepticons to retreat inside. In a frenzy, Breakdown noted that the next door was locked, and Soundwave proposed that Dark Energon could open the door, which it did. Inside, Soundwave picked up a transmission from Starscream, who announced that he would be replacing the "deceased" Megatron as Decepticon leader. Enraged, Megatron threatened Starscream, but Soundwave informed his leader that communication to the surface had been cut off, so Starscream could not hear him.

The trio arrived at the lift, but found it to be locked down. Breaking the locks got the lift back to working condition, but on their way up, Omega Supreme returned and blasted it, forcing the Decepticons down the shaft at breakneck speed. Omega was still out there, so the emergency brakes' destruction was the Decepticons' only hope. At the bottom, they continued their journey to find a way to fight Omega Supreme—Soundwave noted that at the top of the tower were several heavy weapons emplacements which could at least theoretically damage Omega—but Omega Supreme didn't know the meaning of the word quit. (He really doesn't; not much in the processor department.) He grabbed the Decepticons, but Soundwave helped out in shooting Omega Supreme's hand, forcing him relinquishing the three from his grasp. They retreated inside a fortified Autobot position, and in order to prevent detection, Soundwave jammed their signals. Slaying the Autobots inside who dared attempt to counterattack, Soundwave unlocked the exit, which only let in more Autobots. They too, met their demise, but as Soundwave and his comrades escaped, he noticed that the Autobots' security was countering the effects of Dark Energon. Destroying the sentries turned to be a worthwhile solution, but then the Decepticons had to deal with Omega Supreme mining road. Soundwave's sensors indicated the presence of a bridge nearby, and though Breakdown was unsure, Megatron was willing to follow Soundwave's advice. Once again, Omega Supreme continued to stalk them, but Soundwave led his group to an alternate route...a dead end, to be precise, which Megatron was irritated with. Soundwave revealed that breaking a structurally-weak sealed doorway nearby took them to Iacon maintenance tunnels leading straight to the bridge terminal. When they arrived through the power conduits, Soundwave and the others fought through more Autobots and finally activated the bridge.

Racing across the bridge, they barely avoided Omega Supreme's pursuit, and Soundwave located another cargo lift that would transport them straight to the heavy ion turrets. On the lift he picked up several Autobot/Decepticon signals, a sign they were approaching the battle on the surface. Soundwave participated in the slugfest, and his analysis proved that the turrets nearby had enough firepower to legitimately damage Omega Supreme. Then, he showed no mercy using the turrets to breach Omega's armour and finally topple him to the ground below.

Soundwave, Breakdown, and Megatron followed Omega, and at the bottom, they were surprised to see him survive and transform into his mighty robot mode. Soundwave noted that energon batteries produced from within Cybertron were the source of Omega's limitless endurance, and further advised the team on battling Omega; avoiding his tractor beams would allow them to live, and his turrets were vulnerable, making them the prime target. When the turrets were blown, Soundwave saw that the batteries were being used to repair them, and so it became an objective to corrupt them with Dark Energon. When Omega Supreme used the batteries to heal himself, he was instead weakened, allowing the Decepticons to critically injure him. Omega Supreme was still alive even after all of that, but much weaker. Soundwave observed that his chest plating had been damaged, and Megatron ordered Soundwave and Breakdown to blast it, and Omega Supreme fell at last. Soundwave advised Megatron that now would be a good time to corrupt Omega with Dark Energon, but Megatron told Captain Obvious to shut up and did as he would have done even if Soundwave hadn't brought it up, laughing all the way.

After Cybertron's Core had been infected with Dark Energon, Soundwave was reassigned as head of [[Kaon]]'s prison, and watched over (i.e., tortured) Zeta Prime in his spare time. [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]], [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] and [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] led an Autobot breakout and battled Soundwave's minions [[Frenzy (WFC)|Frenzy]], [[Rumble (WFC)|Rumble]] and [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]]. Soundwave himself sustained heavy damage leaving the safety of his position to revive and retrieve each Minicon, showing uncharaceristic concern for other living beings. Eventually, defeated and critically damaged, Soundwave desperately attempted to restore himself by absorbing life force from Zeta's very own spark. His attempt to fully heal was halted by Optimus, who even took a shot from the Decepticon intended to finish off Prime. Although Soundwave and his minions fled, the damage had already been done and Zeta Prime expired moments later. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]] (English)
Soundwave hacked into the Autobot mainframe and, while Megatron and some other Decepticons kept the Autobots distracted, downloaded intel indicating the location of the Trypticon space station. As they approached the station in Megatron's ship, Soundwave reported that the inhabitants were taking up defensive positions and docking would not be possible. Though Megatron was confident they could ram the station, Soundwave turned out to be right, and they could only get close enough to drop a small team off on the debris surrounding the station. When the station was conquered and Dark Energon in Megatron's hands, Soundwave suggested it might be a good idea to test the stuff prior to use. It turned out to be unstable, and he warned it could result in destruction of its host. The Decepticons set up Kaon Prison as a testing ground and, after eleven failures, established that the Dark Energon could be used. When Barricade asked what happened to the failures, Soundwave would only say that their remains laid in the prison and creepily ask Barricade to get in the chair so he too could be infused with Dark Energon.

Trypticon station required more power, so the Decepticons sent a team to Cybertron's core to reactivate the Energon Bridge. Soundwave did not anticipate the activation of latent defense systems, triggered by the Decepticon presence, because he hadn't studied the same ancient files as Starscream. Megatron ordered Soundwave to give Starscream whatever he needed, and they succeeded in activating the bridge. Soundwave reported that they were only at 37% power — the Autobots had severed the bridge's link to the core using the Omega Key. Lazerbeak intercepted an Autobot transmission indicating that Zeta Prime was hiding the Omega Key, and Megatron ordered Soundwave to assemble a strike force to obtain it. They managed to find and defeat the Autobot leader, but the Omega Key he had was only the key to awaken the real key — Omega Supreme. Once the Decepticons fought their way through the Autobot defenses, Soundwave reported they had reached Omega Supreme himself. The Decepticons defeated the giant, reestablished the link to the core and infused it with Dark Energon. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}

===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Isaac C. Singleton, Jr.]] (English), [[Claudio Moneta]] (Italian)

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{{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}

===''Terrorcon Defense''===
[[Image:SoundwaveTerrorconDefense.jpg|300px|thumb|As awesome as he looks here, he's probably waltzing off after Bumblebee blasted him ''again''.]]
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{{storylink|Transformers Prime: Terrorcon Defense}}
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==Commercial appearances==
[[Image:WFC Gamestop Commercial.jpg|left|150px|thumb|The toy can do this if you try hard enough.]]
[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]] arrived to a location where [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]], and Soundwave were battling Autobots. Megatron left, leaving Shockwave in charge. Shockwave ordered Soundwave to [[Transformation|Transform]]. Soundwave changed into Cybertronian boombox mode and played [[The Touch]]. {{storylink|Commercial#War for Cybertron|GameSpot's commercial for their Shockwave multiplayer exclusive}}
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianSoundwave.jpg|thumb|300px|No [[Soundwave (Animated)|giant guitar]] this time!]]
*'''Cybertronian Soundwave''' (Deluxe, 2010)
:*''Accessories:'' two "weapons"

: This toy is based on Soundwave's appearance in the video game ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron]]'', transforming into a Cybertronian SUV-type vehicle. Soundwave comes with his classic shoulder launcher and rifle, both of which can store inside his opening chest, approximating the visual of cassette spools. The weapons can also attach to either side of the vehicle mode. Soundwave's head features a [[light-piping]] gimmick, but the effect is largely neutered by his painted visor.

: This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#United|Soundwave Cybertron Mode]].
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===Prime: Robots in Disguise===
{{anchor|Revealer}}
[[Image:Primetoy-SoundwaveDeluxe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Toy doesn't talk, just like in the tv show!]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Revealer, 2012)
:*''Accessories:'' [[Laserbeak (Prime)|Laserbeak]]

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{{anchor|Cyberverse}}
*'''Soundwave''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2012)
:*''Accessories:''

{{comingsoontoy}}
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==Notes==
[[Image:TfprimeSoundwavePredator.jpg|thumb|But can he replay footage of "[[Operation: Firestorm]]"?]]
*Soundwave transforms into a Cybertronian car during gameplay of ''War for Cybertron'', and his toy does the same, having only one alternate mode. However, in a ''War for Cybertron'' cutscene, the Gamestop commercial for Shockwave, and the end credits for ''War for Cybertron'', he is additionally shown to transform into a Cybertronian boombox, which the toy can technically do with some fiddling.

*Despite his toy and concept art appearance, Soundwave has a ''yellow'' visor in-game. [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#Generation 1|''Hmmm''...]]

*His ''Prime'' alt-mode, on the other hand, is an unmanned aerial vehicle with a similar design to the General Atomics MQ-9 Reaper.

*According to the [[Transformers Hall of Fame]] biography, Soundwave [[Perceptor (Animated)|deleted his emotions to process information more quickly]], and is susceptible to [[Cyber Missions 1|too many sonic booms]].

*[[Duane Capizzi]] said Soundwave can speak, but just chooses not to. The decision was to contrast Soundwave with the overly talkative Starscream,<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/bonus-q--a-with-transformers-prime-creators---answered-171430/ TFW2005 Q&A January 2011]</ref> and at [[BotCon 2011]], the staff compared Soundwave to [[Boba Fett]]. Sorry, [[Frank Welker| Frank]], only [[Megatron (Prime)| one character]] for now...

* Soundwave's prehensile tentacles are remniscient of [[Soundwave (ROTF)|another Soundwave]], although they are significantly less naughty.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Soundwave''' (サウンドウェーブ ''Saundowēbu'')

==References==

<references/>

[[Category:Generations]]
[[Category:Gladiators]]
[[Category:Hall of Fame]]
[[Category:Prime Decepticons]]
[[Category:Spies]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron Decepticons]]

Transformers: Exiles

2012-02-01T03:29:46Z

Karhukjnsi: I have no idea why Soundwave wasn't listed.

{{Comicstory
|seriesissue=''Transformers: Exiles''
|prev=Transformers: Exodus
|next=
|title=
|image=TransformersExiles.jpg
|caption= ''Does it feel like a trial?'' 
''Does it trouble your mind the way you trouble mine?'' 
''Does it feel like a trial?'' 
''Now you're thinking too fast'' 
''You're like marbles on glass''

|publisher=[[Del Rey Books]]
|price=$7.99 (US)
|date=[[October 4]], [[2011]]
|writer=[[Alex Irvine]]
|continuity=[[Aligned continuity family]]
|ISBN=ISBN 0345519868 ISBN 978-0345519863
|pagecount=384
}}
'''As the Autobots search for the Allspark in the depths of space, Optimus must discover the secrets of the Thirteen.'''

==Synopsis==

Following the destruction of Cybertron's last working [[space bridge|Space Bridge]], [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] and his crew aboard the ''[[Ark (WFC)|Ark]]'' find themselves teleported into interstellar space. However, Optimus's [[Matrix of Leadership]] projects a star map, which guides them to the long-lost world of [[Velocitron]], one of the colony worlds that was abandoned millennia ago and left to its own devices. Taking a small group of [[Autobot]]s, Prime discovers that the planet is still inhabited by a culture of speed-obsessed Cybertronians. Encountering [[Ransack (Prime)|Ransack]], a surly co-ruler of the planet, he and his party travel to [[Delta]], the main capital of the planet. There, Optimus sees the full extent of Velocitronian culture—a hyper-specialized lifestyle that has eschewed all other forms of transport besides wheels—and meets [[Override (Prime)|Override]], the other ruler of the planet, who won her position through a race.

The Velocitronians falsely believe that the Cybertronians have arrived to save them. Override confines in Optimus Prime that their society is gradually collapsing; not only is their sun in its final period of its life, they have been running short on planetary resources for a while. Nevertheless, they are preparing for the great [[Speedia]] race to determine the fastest Velocitronian. As he watches the race, Optimus mulls over the fact that these races are similar to the gladiatorial matches that allowed [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] to begin his rise to power. As a way of showing the Velocitronians that the Autobots are powerful, Optimus orders [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]] to fly over the race as it ends ([[Blurr (Prime)|Blurr]] is the winner), which awes most of the Velocitronians but only angers Ransack.

Eventually, the other Autobots land the ''Ark'' at Delta and commence repairs on their ship. Optimus Prime takes advantage of this to explore the world of Velocitron, traveling with a young Velocitronian named Clocker to the remnants of the planet's Space Bridge.

Meanwhile, Ransack and his bodyguard are contacted by another mysterious Cybertronian, who only goes by the name "[[Makeshift (Prime)|777]]". 777 tells them about the coming [[Decepticon]]s and Megatron, which intrigues Ransack and his group.

Meanwhile at the Space Bridge, Optimus Prime communes with the Matrix, which shows him a cryptic vision—but, at the same time, allows him to encounter a mysterious piece of metal, which Optimus believes to be a part of the mythical [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]]. However, the two come under fire from a group of Decepticon sympathizers. [[Clocker (Prime)|Clocker]] and Optimus manage to escape and return to Delta. However, both Clocker and another Velocitronian mechanic named [[Mainspring]] decide to leave with Optimus aboard the ''Ark''.

Upon returning to Delta, Optimus consults with the other Autobots about the meaning of the metal shard. They are interrupted by Blurr, who realizes that the trophy he won at Speedia contains a similar shard. Not long afterwards, the ''Ark'' is sabotaged. As the Autobots try to repair it, Ransack strikes with his acolytes, trying to wrest leadership from Override. Override responds in kind, and as the Autobots try to escape from Cybertron, Velocitron is plunged into civil war.

The Autobots manage to escape, and find themselves in orbit around an even stranger world; a planet of garbage and trash called [[Junkion (planet)|Junkion]]. Optimus and a small crew encounters an eccentric bot named [[Wreck-Gar (Prime)|Wreck-Gar]], who claims to be the leader of the scavenging tribes on the world. His mind temporarily cleared by the power of the Matrix, he and the other [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]] pledge their allegiance to Optimus and vow to help repair the ''Ark''.

Meanwhile, the ''[[Nemesis (Prime)|Nemesis]]'', having also been transported into interstellar space by the Space Bridge, pick up the ''Ark''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s trail and make preparations to land on Velocitron, where they believe the Autobots are.

As repairs commence on the ''Ark'', Optimus Prime travels down into the depths of Junkion, discovering a mysterious ship. The Matrix projects another map, directing him to the last of Junkion's functional Space Bridges. Upon reaching the surface, he requests use of a ship from Wreck-Gar. However, [[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]] discovers that [[Shearbolt]]—a trader that the Autobots encountered early on, had been killed before the Autobots landed, causing Optimus to suspect that there may be a [[Shifter]] aboard. At the same time, [[Axer (Prime)|Axer]], an ex-Decepticon stranded on Junkion through a Space Bridge mishap, tries to convince Wreck-Gar to turn against them. While both groups begin scavenging parts to repair a ship, Optimus discovers another mysterious artifact about to be incinerated, but manages to save it at the last second.

Meanwhile, on Velocitron, Override and her cadre of loyalists are visited by an enigmatic group of pirates, who claim to be looking for Cybertronians. Their arrival ignites tensions and causes the civil war to redouble.

Simultaneously, on Junkion, Prowl manages to track and trace Axer, interrogating him about Shearbolt's killing. From his testimony, Optimus Prime and [[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]] manage to deduce that [[Hound (Prime)|Hound]] is the Decepticon Shifter, and manage to lure him into a trap. He is taken prisoner by the Junkions. Meanwhile, the ''Nemesis'' arrives on Velocitron. Megatron encounters several Decepticon-allied Velocitronians, including Ransack, and gains several new followers. However, the ''Nemesis'' almost immediately makes preparations to leave for Junkion, in pursuit of the Autobots.

Optimus Prime, Silverbolt, [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]], and Jazz travel through the Space Bridge, reaching a new region of space that contains the tomb of weaponsmith [[Solus Prime]]. A hologram of Solus Prime appears and warns Optimus and the others to leave immediately. However, a messenger from Cybertron—a young Autobot named [[Chaindrive]], teleported there by [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]]—appears and gives Optimus two more pieces of the artifact, which Optimus realizes are the [[Blades of Time]]. Assembling them correctly, he contacts [[Vector Prime]], who informs him about the nature of the [[Requiem Blaster (Prime)|Requiem Blaster]] and its location, which is sought by Axer. Returning to Junkion, the party arrives just in time for the ''Nemesis'' to appear, launching an attack on both the Autobots and Junkions.

As the fight rages across Junkion, Axer manages to escape down to the core of Junkion, discovering the Requiem Blaster. However, when he moves it, the gravitational disturbance it creates begins to tear Junkion apart from the inside out. Reporting to Megatron, the Blaster is grafted to the hull of the ''Nemesis''. The disturbances awaken another Junkion named [[Cannonspring]]. Cannonspring, Mainspring, [[Pinion]], Clocker, and Chaindrive unite into the mythical [[Nexus Prime]]. Nexus contacts Optimus and bestows upon him the [[Cyber Caliber]], a legendary sword. Megatron and Optimus duel atop a bridge, with Optimus ultimately triumphant. However, at that moment, he receives a vision of the [[AllSpark|Allspark]]'s location, and begins to retreat towards the ''Ark'' to pursue it. The Requiem Blaster overheats, and is jettisoned by the Decepticons.

The [[Star Seeker]]s too arrive on Junkion as part of their quest. Taking Wreck-Gar and many of his Junkions prisoner, they force the natives to weld a Space Bridge to the hull of their ship. Axer is also taken aboard as a hostage, but manages to convince [[Thundertron]], their captain, to keep him alive so that he may lead them to more Cybertronians. The hunt for the Allspark continues, but the Star Seekers are now also in pursuit...

==Characters==

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*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Ultra Magnus (WFC)|Ultra Magnus]]
*[[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]]
*[[Prowl (Prime)|Prowl]]
*[[Jazz (WFC)|Jazz]]
*[[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]]
*[[Perceptor (Prime)|Perceptor]]
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]
*[[Springer (Prime)|Springer]]
*[[Makeshift (Prime)|Hound]]
*[[Ironhide (Prime) |Ironhide]]
*[[Wheeljack (Prime) |Wheeljack]]
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*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]]
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]
*[[Shockwave (WFC)|Shockwave]]
*[[Makeshift (Prime)|Makeshift]]
*[[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]]
*[[Thundercracker (WFC)|Thundercracker]]
*[[Skywarp (WFC)|Skywarp]]
*[[Lugnut (WFC)|Lugnut]]
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*[[Alpha Trion (Prime)|Alpha Trion]]
*[[Vector Prime]]
*[[Solus Prime]]
*[[Nexus Prime]]
** [[Clocker (Prime)|Clocker]]
** [[Mainspring]]
** [[Chaindrive]]
** [[Cannonspring]]
** [[Pinion]]

|h4=[[Star Seeker]]s|c4=
*[[Thundertron]]
*[[Brimstone (Prime)|Brimstone]]
*[[Cannonball (Prime)|Cannonball]]
*[[Sandstorm (Prime)|Sandstorm]]
*[[Axer (Prime)|Axer]]

|h5=Others|c5=
'''[[Velocitron]]ians'''
*[[Override (Prime)|Override]]
*[[Blurr (Prime)|Blurr]]
*[[Backfire (Prime)|Backfire]]
*[[Ransack (Prime)|Ransack]]
*[[Hightail (Prime)|Hightail]]
*[[Armco]]
*[[Syncol]]
*[[Blueshift]]

'''[[Junkion (species)|Junkion]]s'''
*[[Wreck-Gar (Prime)|Wreck-Gar]]
*[[Shearbolt]]
*[[Detritus (Prime)|Detritus]]
*[[Arclight]]
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Transformers references==

* The entire book revisits the idea of lost Cybertronian colony worlds; something was initially explored in the ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' franchise. Velocitron and many of its inhabitants are re-imagined versions of ''Cybertron'' Velocitronians.
* Junkion first appeared in the [[Generation 1]] continuity family.
* Wreck-Gar's cheerful proclamation of "that's what I'm good for, garbage!" recalls [[Wreck-Gar (Animated)|a different Wreck-Gar]] and his perceived lot in life.
* The [[universal greeting]] is used several times in the book.
* Alpha Trion mentions that the Star Saber may be made up of three smaller robots; in its ''Armada'' incarnation, the [[Star Saber (Armada)|Star Saber]] was just that.
* The idea of a Decepticon with an Autobot alt-mode [[Punch (G1)|is not]] [[Shockwave (Animated)|a new idea.]]

==Notes==
* Irvine said that the [[space bridge]]s will play an important part in the sequel, "and they lead to some [[Velocitron|unexpected]] [[Junkion (planet)|places]]". The focus remains on [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], but the [[Thirteen|original Thirteen Primes]] and their Artifacts "comes to play in this book too, but in unexpected ways".<ref>[http://www2.unicron.com/2011/2011-interviews/308-unicroncom-interview-with-transformers-exodus-author-alex-irvine.html 2011 Unicron.com interview with Alex Irvine]</ref>
* Originally, the title was going to incorporate ''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)| Prime]]''.<ref>[http://twitter.com/alexirvine/status/50528392700899328 Irvine's Tweet].</ref>

===Errors===
*In chapter three and the start of chapter four, the first team sent down to Velocitron is composed of Prime, Bumblebee, Jazz and Perceptor, with Perceptor getting several bits of analytical dialogue. But from page 23, Silverbolt suddenly replaces Perceptor, and has an important role in the climax of the Speedia race.
*Similarly, page 25 identifies the second Velocitron landing team as Sideswipe, Hound, Ironhide and Prowl, but from page 29, Ironhide is replaced with Ratchet.
*At the end of chapter five, Optimus Prime and Clocker drive away and leave the monolith behind, but then at the start of chapter seven, they're suddenly back in front of it again as if they'd never left.
*Page 209 makes the claim that Makeshift cannot even change his facial expressions while in the statis field, but the rest of his interrogation scene repeatedly describe him doing just that.
*On page 218, Optimus decides to have Silverbolt provide the transport for the mission to the space bridge, rather than using the ship they had previously salvaged. This notion is carried through, with the Aerialbot described as carrying Prime and Bumblebee into orbit (p. 234), and they subsequently move around the space graveyard without a ship. However, when the group departs from Solus Prime's tomb, they go "''back to the ship''", and are said to board the salvaged spacecraft with Sideswipe at the helm (p. 267). This doesn't last long, as when they enter the other space bridge and return to Junkion (p. 271), it is back to just the "''four bots''" (Chaindrive has joined them), with no ship.
*On page 276, Sideswipe joins the conversation, despite Ratchet and Jazz being the only Autobots described as joining up with Optimus' party.
*It's never explained how exactly Optimus manages to travel to Velocitron's south pole and back in such a short time.
*The final few chapters have a lot of trouble with the names of swords. While the rest of the book talks about the fragments of the [[Star Saber (Prima)|Star Saber]], once Nexus Prime is formed, the sword he produces and gives to Optimus Prime is called the "[[Cyber Caliber]]". Logically, one might immediately assume that this is a different sword and that the Star Saber is still out there somewhere else, but when the fight is over, the sword is broken up into fragments like the Star Saber and integrated into each of Nexus's components, and in the epilogue, Alpha Trion again refers to Nexus Prime as possessor of the Star Saber. Similarly, Nexus Prime's personal blade is at first called the "Omni Saber" in one instance, and then in the subsequent two instances of it being named, is called the "Chaos Edge". Alex has confirmed via Twitter that the Saber and Caliber are seperate swords not an error (so he claims at least), whether the same is true of the other two and Nexus is toting ''four unrelated swords'' around inside him, who can say...

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Exiles-Alex-Irvine/dp/0345519868/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1300978654&sr=8-1 Amazon.com page]
*[http://www.randomhouse.com/book/198675/transformers-exiles-by-alex-irvine Random House page]

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The Fallen

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Karhukjnsi: Changing "The Fallen" to "the Fallen" concerning the Aligned continuity.

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[[Image:HeatScramble-TheFallen.jpg|right|300px|thumb|The second movie was his revenge against all of us.]]

If the [[Thirteen|first Transformers]] were [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s disciples, then '''The Fallen''' is its Judas. At the dawn of time, he was '''Megatronus Prime''', one of a brotherhood of vastly powerful beings dedicated to the well-being of their world. But The Fallen would gain his current moniker by turning against his brother [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]s and his purpose to pursue his own ends. His frightening form is a metal cage for primal, burning forces of [[Unicron|chaos]], giving him the appearance of a living furnace. These cauldron-like forces purged him of what empathy and morality remained.

The Fallen is immensely powerful. He commands mystic, entropic arts, and when at full strength he can un-make creation at his focused will. He is rarely defeated; at best he is contained, where he waits with eternal patience for the chance to unleash his dark powers once again. Though he has at times been imprisoned between dimensions, this rarely lasts. When his power is at its height The Fallen can open [[space bridge]]s and travel between dimensions and realities at will.

If there is any reprieve, it is that there is only one of him. Like his brothers, The Fallen is a [[multiversal singularity]],<ref>[[Forest Lee]], [[BotCon 2009]]</ref> meaning that in all of the vast [[Continuity|multiverse]], he has no alternate-universe doppelganger. He may appear different in different realities but that is merely surface, it is always the same singular force of eldritch evil beneath. In several realities he is the originator of the [[Decepticon]]s, the catalyst that prompted [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] to claim power for himself rather than the greater good. While the exact details of his past are complicated beyond the understanding of mortals,<ref>See [[Hasbro Q&A/July 2009: Answers|Hasbro Q&A/July 2009: Answer #3]] for more information.</ref> two things remain consistent: He is bad news, and he's on fire.

{{quote|You... you're from ''before''. Aren't you?|[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] on The Fallen|"[[Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation]]"}}

==Origins==
As explained in more detail in the appropriate sections below, The Fallen has been given different origin stories in several of the different continuities in which he has appeared. At first glance, these may seem to be in conflict, but they are simply another facet of his nature as a singularity. The Fallen and other beings of his type do not experience reality in the same manner as lesser, linear beings. With the complicated loops and twists of time and dimension, he is quite capable of possessing different origins in the different realities he enters and still remaining one singular entity. To paraphrase Walt Whitman: Does he contradict himself? Very well, then he contradicts himself. He is large. He contains multitudes.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave ''Generation 1'' comics===
[[Image:Thefallen.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Ah, you know it's funny, these people, they go to sleep, they think everything's fine, everything's good... They wake up the next day and they're on fire.]]

When Primus and Unicron first battled as planets, Primus created the first 13 Transformers to assist him in planet mode. The Fallen's original purpose as one of the 13 was to oversee entropy, the orderly dissolution of all things in preparation for the next creation. But the concept of destruction fascinated him too much, and he lost sight of the goal of rebirth and the necessity of restraint. His investigations into the dark sciences led him to Unicron, to whom he gave himself.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/titanium/the-fallen/1126/2/9/ Fallen's ''Titanium Series'' on-package bio]</ref> Corrupted by Unicron, the Fallen then tried to sabotage his creator's body. This attempt ended in failure, and "The Fallen" fled to his master, but there was little refuge to be found: They were both sucked into a [[black hole]]. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}}

Approximately 7 million years before the 21st century, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] were lost in a [[space bridge]] accident. This accident weakened the barrier between reality and [[underspace|the dimension]] in which The Fallen was trapped, allowing The Fallen to eventually break free and return to Cybertron.

[[Image:Thefallenseeksfour.jpg|thumb|300px|Hey, The Fallen, ever heard of Tums?]]

The Fallen immediately set about initiating the "[[Unbinding]]", an event which required four particular Transformers, who would function as "angles in the geometry of dissolution". To help him round up the required Transformers, the Fallen recruited a [[Chaos Trinity|trio of Decepticon outcasts]], [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]], and [[Bugly]], who hungered for a command of [[Dark science|the occult]]. The Fallen promised them all manner of dark powers in exchange for serving him. Leading his three followers to a hidden room within Cybertron, he named [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] as the first of the angles to be gathered. {{storylink|Fragmentation}}

The Fallen and company proceeded to construct a strange machine within the [[Well of All Sparks]] in preparation for the Unbinding. Unfortunately, Bludgeon and friends got impatient for more than The Fallen's praise and demanded a more tangible reward: the arcane power he had promised them. The Fallen responded by grabbing Bludgeon’s head and giving him a mere glimpse of what he sought: images of a fiery vortex, demonic faces, stabbing swords and a human skull engulfed Bludgeon. The Fallen stated that this was but a peek inside a dark door he would fully open if they served him well. This left Bludgeon suitably inspired to begin hunting down their targets.

[[Image:Thefallengrimlock.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Someone should tell Grimlock this more often.]]

Bugly and Mindwipe leaked information to draw the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] out into combat with [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], while Bludgeon hatched a plot to snare both Grimlock and [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. {{storylink|Escalation}} Bludgeon, Bugly, and Mindwipe ambushed Jetfire as he attempted a cross-faction meeting with [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. When Grimlock crashed the party earlier than they expected, however, The Fallen himself had to intervene and caught Grimlock’s blazing energo-sword in his bare hand. {{storylink|Revelation (The Dark Ages)|Revelation}}

Grimlock took one punch from The Fallen yet still got back up, so The Fallen grabbed him by the shoulders and unleashed a huge blast of energy that put the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] leader out cold. Shocked by the display, Jetfire surmised that The Fallen predated the Golden Age, which impressed The Fallen, but he still knocked Jetfire out cold. He dragged Grimlock and Jetfire away and commanded his followers to gather the third angle while he handled the fourth. The Fallen singlehandedly abducted [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] from his well-guarded holding cell in Autobot headquarters, shrugging off attacks by some of the Autobots' best warriors and causing their weapons to corrode away into uselessness with a mere gesture. Bludgeon's team, meanwhile, succeeded in acquiring [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] from the Protectobots.

[[Image:Fallenmoreonfire.jpg|right|thumb|250px|The Fallen somehow sets himself ''more on fire''.]]

All four angles were strapped to the device in the Well of All Sparks. Launching into full B-movie villain mode, The Fallen theatrically monologued to the awakening Jetfire that they were casualties in the war of the Gods, and would be used to break the Seal of Primus, after which "all chaos will follow". {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}}

The Fallen continued his villainous monologue, apparently directing it not at Jetfire but at Primus himself, as the four Transformers' unique sparks were drained to unlock the Seal of Primus. A combined army of forces from several factions defeated the Chaos Trinity and penetrated The Fallen's operation. By the time they reached the door, The Fallen was satisfied that the Transformers were too late, until Jetfire arranged a force-field to surround the Seal. The Fallen was further impressed that Jetfire understood enough to try to contain the Seal, but his distraction cost him victory: the God of Light himself was subsequently roused from his slumber where he saw The Fallen. With a gesture of his radiant hand, Primus engulfed his wayward creation in a torrent of searing energy that was then sucked back into the Seal of Primus. {{storylink|Conflagration}}

{{note|The Fallen would've returned in a one-shot story entitled "[[The Enemy Within]]", when in the present, Jetfire discovers Shockwave broke the Seal for his cloning experiments. The Fallen's essence escaped and corrupted [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]], and following his death, passed into Jetfire. Dreamwave's bankruptcy meant the story was never published.}}

===''Cybertron'' comic===
[[Image:Vectorprimeut.jpg|thumb|140px|Back, and to the left.]]
[[Vector Prime]]'s reminiscences of his mission and history included standing with his fellow 13 original Transformers, The Fallen's silhouette visible in their ranks. {{storylink|Vector Prime: In the Beginning}}
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===Live-action film series===
====IDW ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics====
[[Image:Defianceissue4-creation.jpg|left|thumb|150px|Look [[Prima|familiar]]?]]

According to what The Fallen told [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] as part of the latter's recruitment, The Fallen and his brothers were the first creations of the [[AllSpark]]. The planet that would become [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] was mostly barren, but as the AllSpark gradually shaped Cybertron around them and gave The Fallen and his brothers power beyond measure, the AllSpark became depleted. They learned that the its power could be replenished by harvesting the energy of stars, but they were unable to locate new stars to suit their purposes, despite their amazing ability to travel between dimensions using triangular "[[sarcophagus|sarcophagi]]". {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}}

The Fallen believed the AllSpark spoke only to him, telling him of a grander destiny than that of his brothers. He was its "chosen one." {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}} The AllSpark granted The Fallen a race of [[Transformer|workers]] that had a power of their own: They could change their forms! Some, called "[[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]]", could even change into interstellar crafts that could locate stars for them. The [[Dynasty of Primes]], as the entities and their descendants were known, would then come and build a harvester which would destroy the star and send its power to the AllSpark. The Dynasty tempered their search with the rule of sparing stars with inhabited worlds, but The Fallen believed that the Dynasty's compassion would ultimately doom the Cybertronians to inevitable extinction. As he sought a way to fix this problem, The Fallen came to think evil thoughts. What if there were no other Primes to share the AllSpark with? What if its power was his alone? {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}}

[[Image:JetfireROTF-TalesoftheFallen.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm trustworthy!]]

The Fallen began to court some Transformers to his side. He selected a small number of the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] drones to do his bidding in private, ultimately in service of subverting the Dynasty of Primes in favor of his own agenda. He called this group the Decepticons. [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], The Fallen's most trusted and capable Seeker, began to unwittingly harvest the stars of inhabited star systems; the two would scan a system together, but The Fallen would report that his search areas were devoid of life. This practice got The Fallen and Jetfire into trouble with the other Primes, and so The Fallen began to sow seeds of mistrust in Jetfire. He claimed the Primes' refusal to sacrifice life to save their own planet would be its downfall, and that an army must be readied in case the Primes betrayed them all. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 3|Tales of the Fallen #3}}

[[Image:TalesoftheFallen4-theyshallpay.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Yummy yummy I've got hate in my tummy!]]

The Fallen attempted to build a Star Harvester on his own, powered by a counterfeit [[Matrix of Leadership]] he had constructed. However, it was unstable, and the resulting explosion infused The Fallen with power he had never known. He now burned with dark, unimaginable powers from within. The Fallen, feeling a darker sense of purpose that complemented his darker powers, traveled from world to world to world, killing scores of organisms and assimilating their technology, and leaving the dry husks of planets in his wake. He evolved, and during his ascension he planned for the eventual battle with his brothers. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}}

As Jetfire joined the Decepticons, The Fallen took them to a planet named Earth, and they built a [[Star Harvester]] to claim the [[Sun]]. However, it, too, harbored life: The Fallen was building the harvester there to either bait his brothers into taking action (while he was prepared to kill them all) or to remain in limbo. Either way, he won! Jetfire finally turned against his master, just as the remaining Primes arrived, falling into the traitor's trap. The Fallen warped Jetfire and his other underlings away and faced his brothers alone. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 3|Tales of the Fallen #3}}

[[Image:TalesoftheFallen4-notlikethis.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Ever since he was a child, he was hated by triangles.]]

The battle between The Fallen and the other Primes was costly. They did not expect The Fallen to have so much power, and one by one they fell by his wretched hand. He had "expanded [his] consciousness—absorbed the mental mass of a hive intelligence seventy trillion strong, probed the neural functions of creatures that swim in unrefined thought..." Since last they met, he was "so much more" than they were. The Fallen was able to grab weapons from his stockpile through personal dimensional portals, and one by one he murdered his brothers until there was only one Prime left to oppose him. With one last desperate gamble, the final Prime fled, and he and The Fallen warped from location to location; The Fallen thought this Prime was merely stalling, but he was gravely mistaken. The final Prime had gathered up the bodies of his defeated brothers, and when at last he had collected them all and The Fallen was weak from overteleportation, he used their combined lifeforce to banish The Fallen forever. The Fallen was trapped through a sarcophagi to another dimension, where he crashed into a desolate landscape, swearing revenge. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}}{{storylink|Foundation issue 2}} Back on Earth, the harvester was covered by the [[Human|natives]] with a pyramid. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}}

Knowledge of this was lost through the ages, and the Dynasty of Primes became little more than a myth. Eons later, a mysterious pylon was found buried on Cybertron by modern-day Transformers and delivered to Megatron's private quarters. Unbeknownst to them all, this was the sarcophagus of The Fallen, and upon activation, it healed the grievously-wounded Cybertronian military leader and established contact between him and its prisoner. Filled with a new resolve to destroy those who sought out the AllSpark, Megatron's optics were tinted red by the encounter. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 2|Defiance #2}} In the aftermath of Megatron's ruthless battle against a band of aliens seeking the AllSpark, The Fallen further counseled him to seize control of Cybertron to make way for The Fallen's return. He also told him that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] sought the AllSpark for himself, and Megatron immediately decided that Optimus and his followers deserved to be killed for this transgression. {{Storylink|Defiance issue 3|Defiance #3}}

[[Image:Defiance4_Megatron_TheFallen.jpg|thumb|300px|left|All right, who changed the thermostat!?]]

But simply taking the planet would not be enough. The Fallen also ordered Megatron to build a [[Nemesis (Movie)|space cruiser]] to seek out the Matrix, which he said was a prerequisite to his return. As the ship's construction came to an end, The Fallen told Megatron the story of his origin (recounted above) and his plans regarding the harvester on Earth. The Fallen ordered Megatron to put his sarcophagus on the ship and then stay behind to fight Optimus's forces and safeguard the AllSpark. [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] and a majority of the Decepticon soldiers crewed the ship.
Meanwhile on Cybertron, civil war raged between Optimus's Autobots and Megatron's Decepticons, a war which eventually led to the AllSpark being launched into space. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}} {{storylink|Foundation issue 3|Foundation #3}}

The ''Nemesis'' came across the AllSpark's energon signature, to Soundwave's disbelief. The Fallen began speaking to Soundwave just as a [[Ark (DOTM)|ship]] crashed into the ''Nemesis'', and disappeared once more through a portal. After landing the ship on a dead planet, Soundwave was commanded to pursue the ship via the portal — that The Fallen recognized as a [[space bridge]] — it left behind. {{storylink|Convergence chapter 1}} Later, Megatron found the abandoned ''Nemesis'' during his pursuit of the AllSpark. He once again spoke with The Fallen, who was furious that Megatron had taken this detour. He ordered him to resume the chase immediately, confident that the Cube would guide them to the harvester. Megatron obeyed, leaving the sarcophagus in the barren wreckage. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4|Defiance #4}}

Thousands of years later, Soundwave returned, having recovered a space bridge [[pillar]] from the Autobot ship. The Fallen informed Soundwave of Megatron's visit, and Soundwave deduced Megatron was one of the Cybertronians rumored to held captive by the humans, prompting him to return. The Fallen then used the pillar to warp space and time, leaving his prison at last... {{storylink|Convergence chapter 4}}
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====''I Can Read''====
[[Image:TheFallen-RiseoftheDecepticons.jpg|left|thumb|200px|I can has face?]]
[[Image:TheFallen-thrownintospace.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Maybe Prime doesn't want your stupid face!]]
The Fallen is the most powerful and evil of Decepticons, but he has been asleep for ages. But now he's woken up, and he has designs on Earth! Will he and Megatron be too powerful to defeat? {{storylink|Rise of the Decepticons}}

The Fallen flies towards Earth. Since he feeds on energy, he is more powerful than even Megatron! He plans to absorb the energy of the Sun.

Thankfully, Optimus Prime and his Autobots are here to stop him. Ultimately, The Fallen is thrown through a portal leading into outer space. {{storylink|I Am Optimus Prime (ROTF)|I Am Optimus Prime}}
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====''Transformers: The Movie Universe''====
The original Transformers, all of them Primes, were united by a directive that safeguarded all life, and as such they refused to utilize the harvester on the inhabited Earth. One of their number, however, decided "I want Energon!" and slaughtered his brothers so he could harvest the Sun. He threw away his original name and became the Fallen. In the end, he slaughtered all of his brethren, but they were still able to imprison him in a pocket dimension and save the Earth. In the process, his appearance had changed to a terrifying, cage-like exostructure burning with chaotic energies from the universe's creation, forces that had purged him of all morality. Since his body was never meant to contain the unholy power flowing through it, he had to steadily vent that energy to ensure his own continued existence. This created the visual effect of a constant fiery nimbus.

While effectively harmless to the universe outside his prison, his powers remained vast: He could generate space bridges spontaneously, as well as focus his energies into discrete blasts that could unmake creation itself. Were he ever able to escape, he would be a supremely powerful danger. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|The Movie Universe}}

====Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics====
The worst of the worst, he makes Devastator look like a puppy with a bad tummy! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|#3's Contents section}}

Legend has it that the first seven Transformers were created by [[Primus]], but the Fallen believes them to be creations of the AllSpark. Their task was to harvest Energon for the AllSpark without endangering alien life, but the Fallen cared nothing for the [[Human|puny meatsacks]] of Earth and tried to harvest the Sun! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|The Fallen Profile}} His duped servant Jetfire watched in horror as the Fallen imprisoned the other six Primes! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Jetfire Profile}} However, the Primes still managed to sacrifice themselves to hide the Creation Matrix, key to the AllSpark, while the Fallen was imprisoned in a pocket dimension on one of Saturn's moons... until Megatron released him! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|The Fallen Profile}}

[[Image:Titan1_FallenStarscream.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Behold my <s>resting</s> mighty hand!]]

The sinister figure of the Fallen made contact with [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] soon after Megatron's death, using him to organise the Decepticon army and lay the groundwork for his return, his... revenge! He ordered Starscream and his forces to go to Cybertron and await further instruction, and promised that once the Matrix was found, [[Earth]] would ''burn''! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Training Day}}

But then that fool Starscream allowed [[Skids (ROTF)|two]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Autobots]] to escape to Earth with vital intelligence! Luckily, the Fallen had agents there, and despatched [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] to deal with them. He angrily warned Starscream not to fail again, grrrr! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

However, due to his imprisonment, the Fallen could only communicate with his generals and not Ransack directly... and so [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], his Earth-side operative, secretly began to take his ''own'' actions! But in an act of cosmic irony, the very twins the Fallen wanted killed ended this treacherous scheme. Ransack intended to inform the Fallen {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}} [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|but failed]]...

{{note|The following events occur in the Law and Disorder continuity.}}

The Fallen suffers from iron barnacles in the folds of his armour... and if YOU are an Autobot sympathiser, you will be forced to clean them out! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|#7's Law and Disorder}}
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====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Tony Todd]] (English), [[Banjō Ginga]] (Japanese), [[Bert Franzke]] (German), [[Gabriel Pingarrón]] (Latin American-Spanish)

[[Image:TheFallen-ROTFwithPrimes.jpg|thumb|left|350px|''Ocupado!'']]
Nineteen thousand years ago, The Fallen accompanied [[Dynasty of Primes|his brother Primes]] to [[Earth]] in an attempt to harvest the [[Sun|star]] it orbited. Just as they had completed construction of the [[Star Harvester]], however, The Fallen discovered [[Human|a primitive race of hunters]]. The Primes invoked their rule of the sanctity of life and refused to activate the harvester, but The Fallen despised the humans as simple insects and attempted to activate the Harvester. A great battle took place, but ultimately, The Fallen was defeated and the remaining Primes hid themselves and the [[Matrix of Leadership]], and The Fallen's harvester was concealed within a pyramid in [[Egypt]]. The Fallen dispatched the [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]] to locate the Matrix, but they proved unable and he eventually abandoned them. The Fallen became known as the first [[Decepticon]], and he became the master of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], leader of the faction. He employed Megatron in the pursuit of the [[AllSpark]], but after Megatron's defeat at [[Mission City]], the AllSpark was reduced to a mere fragment.

[[Image:TheFallen-ROTFNemesis.jpg|right|thumb|350px|Honey, I'm home!]]

Upon Megatron's revival he traveled to the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'', where The Fallen stayed in a life-support chair while [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] oversaw the creation of a new army of Decepticons. Prostrating himself before the Fallen, Megatron said that he had failed his master and their race by allowing the AllSpark to be destroyed. Amused by his disciple's misinformation, The Fallen revealed that the cube was merely a vessel, while the knowledge within the AllSpark was instead placed within the mind of the human who had challenged Megatron, [[Sam Witwicky]]. With the knowledge within Sam's mind, they could find the Star Harvester and the Matrix needed to activate it. Megatron asked permission to avenge himself and reclaim the AllSpark, but The Fallen asked for patience, though he could understand his desire, as The Fallen himself hungered to return to the wretched planet where his brother Primes had betrayed him. The Fallen also explained that the only threat to him was the last surviving Prime, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]]. Since Optimus would protect Sam, The Fallen ordered Megatron to capture the boy and draw out the Prime.

Megatron's plan was partially successful: although the boy escaped, Optimus came to defend him and died in the process. The Fallen sensed his death and was very pleased, knowing that the time to strike was now. When the Decepticons traveled to the Earth's surface in [[transition form|re-entry mode]]s, The Fallen accompanied them, destroying an [[United States Navy#U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt (CVN-71)|aircraft carrier]] as well as attacking several cities. As the aircraft carrier sank into the ocean, The Fallen quietly intoned that revenge was finally his. The Fallen tapped into Earth's communication network, and announced the presence of the Transformers on Earth on worldwide television, demanding the "human hive" hand over Sam.

[[Image:ROTF Fallen headchop.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Can't. Take. Our. Sun. Unless you got buns, hon! And, oh man, he don't.]]
Unfortunately, Sam was in Egypt hunting for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] after being told it might be able to revive Optimus. He succeeded, but moments after Prime's resurrection, The Fallen appeared amongst the assorted NEST troops, pinning Optimus and stealing the Matrix. He then teleported to the now uncovered harvester, and as he inserted the Matrix into the machine, declared that his brothers had failed as he now claimed the Sun. While it charged, the humans attempted to destroy the harvester with their heavy weapons. Unimpressed with their display, The Fallen demonstrated his considerable power by destroying the attacking military forces with telekinesis, then raised a blockade of debris to prevent an air strike, but a super-powered Optimus Prime, now fused with [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], destroyed the harvester, knocking The Fallen to the ground below.

[[Image:TheFallen-ROTFfacegotten.jpg|300px|thumb|right|"Bali mangti kali ma, mukti degi kali ma, kali ma, kali ma, KALI MA!"]]

Facing the last Prime, The Fallen commanded Optimus to join his brothers in death, but it quickly became apparent that Optimus was strong enough to face The Fallen. Megatron came to the aid of his master, but was quickly dispatched. Although The Fallen managed to rip off one of Prime's thrusters and strike him with it, Optimus soon impaled The Fallen with his own spear, then demanded his face, tearing it off. As The Fallen tried to flee, Optimus Prime punched through his abdomen, crushing his spark core and killing The Fallen, as a wounded Megatron watched in horror. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

{{note|The [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novelization]] and [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation|comic adaptation]], based on early drafts of the script, provide more backstory for The Fallen, such as his hunt for the descendants of his brother Primes, and his promise to Megatron that he would make him a Prime—something Optimus exposes as a lie during their final battle, as one can only be born a Prime, leading Megatron to abandon his teacher.}}
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===Aligned Continuity===

{{note|"Anything you know from past generations of the brand may or may not be factual in the new continuity. Going forward in the modern continuity there is 1 Fallen."<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74182 Hasbro Q&A, September 2010: AllSpark.com]</ref>}}

====Aligned novels====
Megatronus Prime conceived the idea of the [[Requiem Blaster (Prime)|Requiem Blaster]], a weapon so powerful that it dwarfed all other weapons in existence. With great reluctance, [[Solus Prime]] agreed to forge the weapon for Megatronus, and even then only after Megatronus convinced other members of the Thirteen to petition her on his behalf as well. Even after the weapon was completed, Solus Prime showed great reluctance in allowing it to remain in existence. After demonstrating its awesome power to the Thirteen, she asked for a vote as to whether the Requiem Blaster should be destroyed. Megatronus Prime led the group who voted in favor of retaining the Blaster, and they won by the slimmest of margins, 7-to-6.

At some later date, Megatronus Prime killed Solus Prime in a fit of rage, and became the Fallen, forever more. The reason for the murder is not fully known at this point, although Solus did favor [[Nexus Prime]] over others in the Thirteen, a fact that had stirred jealousy in Megatronus in the past. {{storylink|Transformers: Exiles|Exiles}}

[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]], who took his name to inspire fear, took a favorable view of the Fallen, considering him the one member of the Thirteen who refused to bow down to the others and would carve his own destiny. {{storylink|Transformers: Exodus|Exodus}}

====''Prime'' cartoon====

[[Image:OneShallRise1-WellofAllSparks.jpg|left|thumb|300px]]
According to legend, at the beginning of time, Unicron and Primus battled each other for eons, with neither side remaining victorious for long. Until, that is, Primus created the [[Thirteen]]. These Thirteen defeated Unicron and cast him into space. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

A [[Megatron (Prime)|gladiator]] would name himself after Megatronus before shortening his name to simply "Megatron". {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}} {{storylink|Exodus}}

At some point statues of Megatronus Prime and his brothers were made. They were placed in the chamber of the High Council. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 3}}

When [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] proclaimed to Optimus Prime that he wished to change sides, [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] sarcastically claimed that he had been [[lobbing]] with the Fallen. {{storylink|Partners}}

{{note|According to slides shown at [[BotCon 2010]], Megatronus is a large, dark robot with a Decepticon symbol-inspired head. He wields a red and black [[fusion cannon]] and is known as the Warrior of Darkness to [[Prima]]'s Warrior of Light.<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/7430/20/ AllSpark.com description of BotCon 2010 Hasbro designers' panel]</ref> As the Fallen, his body is shrouded in flames.}}

==Games==
===Transformers: Battle for the Matrix===

{{Note|Battle for the Matrix is a simplified retelling of the events of [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]. It can be played from the perspective of either Bumblebee or Optimus Prime. The final battle is against Megatron and the Fallen at the [[Star Harvester]].}}
[[Image:The Fallen battleforthematrix.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Behind you!]]
The Fallen tried to defend the Sun Harvester from some Autobot attackers. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle for the Matrix}}
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===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[James Arnold Taylor]]
[[Image:ROTF_360PS3PC_TheFallen.jpg|thumb|250px|I shall light this holy ring, release its cleansing flame, and burn a path into the divine beyond!!! ...Wait, what game is this again?]]
====Xbox 360/PS3/PC====
=====Decepticon campaign=====

With Optimus Prime seemingly defeated, The Fallen and the Decepticons journeyed to Egypt, where he uncovered the Star Harvester from inside the Great Pyramid of Giza and commenced his plans to destroy the Sun. However, the last of the Primes had survived his battle with Megatron and now revealed to the enraged Decepticon leader that The Fallen had betrayed him. The Fallen's promise to Megatron that he would make his student a Prime would never be fulfilled, as Primes were born, not made. Megatron demanded what he had been promised, but the Fallen, disgusted with the creature that he no longer needed, attacked. Righteous indignation fueled Megatron through this battle, and ultimately, he ended The Fallen's mastery over the Decepticons by impaling him through his head and letting the corpse fall into the depths of the Star Harvester. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}

=====Autobot campaign=====

Optimus Prime had survived his battle with Megatron and merged with the parts of Jetfire, and now this new, powered-up form faced the might of The Fallen at the Great Pyramid. Optimus's ancestor mocked this young upstart who dared to face his elder, telekinetically throwing debris at the Autobot, summoning great bursts of energy from the ground, and unleashing an army of Decepticon drones. However, Optimus Prime's new armour more than enabled him to survive this onslaught, and as he rained energy slugs into The Fallen, the ancient Cybertronian called out to Megatron for help, but to no avail, for his student had since learned of The Fallen's treachery. Optimus ended The Fallen's reign of terror by impaling him through his head and letting the corpse fall into the depths of the Star Harvester. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}

===Transformers Autobots/Decepticons===
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{{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: Autobots/Decepticons}}

===Revenge of the Fallen (mobile game)===
The Fallen sent [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and some Decepticon forces to [[Shanghai]] to retrieve a fragment of the [[AllSpark]]. Starscream returned successful, and The Fallen sent him to NEST HQ as a diversion. The Fallen himself used the AllSpark shard to resurrect [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] as part of the ongoing plan to gain possession of the [[Matrix of Leadership]] so they could reactivate the "[[Star Harvester|Great Machine]]". The Fallen sent Megatron to [[Egypt]], but when the other Decepticons fell, he himself put in an appearance. The Fallen was confident that [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] had worn himself out fighting Megatron, however Optimus channeled the power of the Matrix into a single blast, destroying The Fallen. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Glu)}}

====Wii/PS2====
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{{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Wii/PS2)}}

==Toys==
===Titanium Series===
[[Image:Thefallentitanium.JPG|right|thumb|300px|Hey, Stegmutt! Mister The Fallen is ON FIRE!]]
*'''Fallen''' (6-inch Cybertron Heroes, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Display stand
: Instead of being based on his comic appearance, the Fallen toy is loosely based on [[Don Figueroa]]'s design for pre-[[Earth]] [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] as seen in ''[[The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration]]'' and ''[[The Transformers: Stormbringer|Stormbringer]]'', though obviously with The Fallen's head and deco. He transforms into a Cybertronic tank. Sadly his tank form doesn't hold together well, nor does he have actual hands, just blocks with holes in them. His side-mounted cannons can peg into his forearms in robot mode, or be held in his fists. He wears a faction symbol of his own effigy. The Fallen is, by a fraction of an inch, the tallest (and the bulkiest) of the 6" Titanium Series figures.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Unicron/TheFallen/thefallen.htm More information on The Fallen at TFU.info]''
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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-TheFallenLegends.jpg|right|thumb|300px|''*high-pitched helium voice*'' "I am the Faaallllleeeen!"]]
*'''The Fallen''' (Legends, 2009)
:Part of wave 3 of the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends Class toys, The Fallen transforms from robot mode to a Cybertronian Destroyer. For whatever peculiar reason, his legs are sculpted backwards, with the front (kneecaps and all) being on the back and vice versa. This is ''not'' a factory assembly error, however, as swapping the legs makes him impossible to transform, so it can only be chalked up to miscommunication somewhere along the line. As with all wave three Legends figures, the photo on the back of the figure's packaging shows a mistransformed robot mode, where the vehicle nosecone is not folded up against his back.
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[[Image:ROTF_Legends_TheFallen_Lawson.jpg|thumb|300px|What, how dare they make me so small?! I was worshipped as a ''GOD!'']]
*'''Soundwave / EZ Collection The Fallen''' (2009)
:Available exclusively at the Lawson's convenience store in Japan (and the only way to obtain this figure via TakaraTomy), this version of Legends class The Fallen is the same as the Hasbro release, despite earlier pictures showing different [[paint operation]]s. The Deluxe-class Preview Soundwave it comes with is unchanged from the regular release.
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====Voyager Class toys====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-TheFallenVoyager.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Smokin'!]]
*'''The Fallen''' (Voyager, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-10'''

:Part of wave two of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Voyager Class figures, The Fallen transforms from a robot into a "Cybertronian Destroyer" mode. The robot mode features several "slide-out energy absorption panels" on his head and arms which can either be deployed or hidden. In addition to that [[Mech Alive]] feature, his feet are spring-actioned so that when the toy is not standing on a surface (in other words, in jet mode), the toes ball up together. Setting the robot back down on a flat surface will splay the toes open again.

:There are rubbery connectors that attach his arms to his torso that increase accuracy to his visual portrayal in the live-action film, but this restricts his arm movement severely.

:There are at least two features to the toy not addressed on his instructions: first, the panels over the robot's forearms, which can be moved forward to cover the hands in vehicle mode; secondly, curved spikes which are normally in line with the upper legs can be rotated to point forward.
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[[Image:ROTFtoy-GatheringattheNemesis.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hi, I'm the same!]]
*'''Gathering at Nemesis''' (Toys "R" Us-exclusive box set, 2009)
: This version of The Fallen comes with a silver Voyager Class Megatron from the first movie toyline and a ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Soundwave [[redeco]]ed in predominantly blue as an homage to the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave]]. The Fallen has no color differences compared to the original release.
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[[Image:ROTFtoy-TheFallenVoyagerorange.jpg|right|thumb|300px|CAUTION: HOT]]
*'''The Fallen''' (Voyager, 2009)

: A Target-[[exclusive]] redeco of The Fallen in black and orange (with translucent red) was released just before Thanksgiving weekend 2009 along with two other Target-exclusive Transformers sets. The fire-like deco likely homages The Fallen's beginnings as a creature perpetually aflame. He was packaged in a clear hexagonal package in robot mode, and his original Voyager Class packaging bio was used again, unaltered.
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*'''The Fallen Blazing Edition''' (2010 Tokyo Winter wonder Festival exclusive)

: This version is very close to the Target-exclusive redeco, but with translucent plastic instead of opaque.
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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-TheFallenRobotReplica.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Yes! We come from France!]]
*'''The Fallen''' (Robot Replica, 2009)
:This nonconvertible figurine of The Fallen boasts several points of articulation, a faithful replication of the robot mode, and little else. Like the Voyager Class toy, the forearms can be attached to the struts leading from his torso (here via a tiny balljoint), severely restricting his arm poseability, but increasing accuracy to his film design.
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===Transformers (2010)===
*'''The Victory of The Fallen''' (K-mart exclusive multi-pack, 2010)
[[Image:TF2010toy-VictoryofTheFallen.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Some victory for The Fallen would be novel!]]
:An orange and black redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends Class The Fallen is part of a Legends 5-pack that includes redecoes of Legends Class [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|Optimus Prime]], [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], [[Starscream (Movie)/toys|Starscream]], and [[Megatron (Movie)/toys|Megatron]]. It's exclusive to [[Kmart]].

:The set included a "Most-Wanted Decepticons" collectors card that featured The Fallen. It provided a code to enter into the "[[Hunt for the Decepticons]]" website to reveal the end of the story set up on the back of the package. Surprise, it's just the live-action film's ending, with no victory for The Fallen whatsoever. There is no truth in advertising!
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[[Image:TF2010toy-TheFallen.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You'd be blue, too, if you had a removable face!]]
*'''The Fallen''' (Voyager, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' Staff

:The Fallen is a blue and teal [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of Voyager ''Revenge of the Fallen'' The Fallen, with new (and more [[Show-accuracy|movie-accurate]]) hands and head. The new face is removable, revealing a skull beneath, allowing for "give me your face" reenactment possibilities. The new head also allows for a much greater range of motion for several posing options compared to the original head. He is the first toy of The Fallen to come with the "Command Staff" he wielded in the film, which necessitated the hand remolds so he could hold it. The staff folds in half and pegs underneath the toy in vehicle mode.
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==Merchandise==
===Missile Mania Board Game===
*'''The Fallen'''
: The Fallen is one of eight characters featured in the [[Missile Mania]] board game, represented by a small standee adorned with artwork of the character.
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===7-11 Slurpee tie-in merchandise===
[[Image:ROTFmerchandise-TheFallenstraw.jpg|right|thumb|150px|''Great'' Transformers tie-in merchandise or the ''greatest'' Transformers tie-in merchandise?]]
*'''The Fallen'''
: The Fallen will help you uncreate your Slurpee with this Slurpee straw topper figurine! Comes attached to a straw in a baggie and is available at your local 7-11 while supplies last!
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===Burger King===
[[Image:ROTFmerchandise-BurgerKingTheFallen.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Flame grilled to perfection]]
*'''The Fallen Flip-Out''' (2009)
:An embossed [[Giant Decepticon insignia|plastic Decepticon insignia]], which flips up into a flat representation of The Fallen with some shoulder articulation. The Fallen, naturally, has flames behind him.
::*''[http://www.toynewsi.com/news.php?catid=242&itemid=14653 More information on The Fallen at Toy News International]''
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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robotheroesmegatronfallenprimejetfireironhide.jpg|300px|thumb|right|Whoa, who ordered the extra-large The Fallen?]]
*'''Battle for the Fallen''' (box set, 2009)
:This ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' box set of figures comes with The Fallen, Megatron (tank mode), Optimus Prime and [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] combined, and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] (truck mode). He is twice as large as a regular ''Robot Heroes'' figure, and has simple swivel joints in his arms and face.
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==Notes==
[[Image:Fallenpatlee.jpg|right|thumb|150px|I'm The Fallen, and I can't get up!]]
*The Fallen design was created by [[Pat Lee]], his first (and only) original Transformers character. ([[Simon Furman]] created the concept, see next item.) The early design concept not only lacked The Fallen's characteristic mouthplate, but differed incredibly from the final product. Envisioned as a medieval, ancient-looking Transformer, he glowed like a furnace, though he was not depicted as being perpetually on fire until [[Andrew Wildman]] penciled his appearances in ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages]]'' and the colorists caught on.
*The Fallen was also used to recycle some of Simon Furman's unused [[Last Autobot]] plans.[http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/tidbits/otfcc2004.txt]
*When questioned about him constantly being aflame, ''[[War Within (comic)|War Within]]'' writer Simon Furman stated that The Fallen is always on fire "because it looks cool."
[[Image:Thefallentank.jpg|right|thumb|150px|The Judasmobile.]]
*The Fallen's Dreamwave comics [[alternate mode]], a tank, though designed, was never used in-fiction. Similarly, The Fallen is said to have ''no'' alternate mode in IDW comics, and he does not actually transform in the film.
*Very little of The Fallen's backstory was given in his first fictional appearances, leaving much of ''The Dark Ages'' somewhat confusing on its own. Helpful inserts from the ''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' profile books and DK's ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'', published around the same time, spelled out more. Eventually, the packaging profile printed on his Titanium figure gave the rest. Oh, and then years later, he was the titular villain of a summer blockbuster film.
* The proper treatment of his name, with its capital-T "The", is established both in the comics and the ''Ultimate Guide''. The one dissenting source is his on-package [[bio]], which simply calls him "'''Fallen'''" (as in, "'''Fallen''' forgot his real name long ago"). The reason for this awkward treatment is unknown, though the usual culprits behind toy-name oddities - [[trademark]] issues - are suspected.
* The Fallen can speak Spanish.<ref>Fanclub-exclusive Mini Mayhem strip, March 19, 2007</ref>
*During San Diego Comic-Con 2008, in an interview on July 25th, [[Simon Furman]] claimed that ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'' would feature a character called the Fallen, which was a character they created for Dreamwave's ''The War Within: The Dark Ages''.<ref>[http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17412 Simon Furman confirms The Fallen is a character in an interview with Comic Book Resources (Fallen details removed)]</ref> Three days later, [[IDW Publishing]] writer [[Chris Mowry]] corroborated the claim in an interview with MTV Splash Page, calling "The Fallen" the main villain of the film.<ref>[http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/28/exclusive-transformers-2-prequel-comic-gives-inside-scoop-on-2009-movie/ MTV Splash Page interviews Chris Mowry (Fallen details removed)]</ref> Less than a week after this, however, [[Michael Bay]] reiterated that everything leaked to that point was part of their misinformation campaign and that only a handful of people involved with the production of ''Revenge'' had seen the script, contradicting IDW's interviews where their representatives confirmed that they had the script.<ref>[http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showpost.php?p=44729&postcount=2 A post made by Michael Bay on his forum]</ref> Curiously, on August 5th 2008, after a fan posted on Michael Bay's forum pointing out the contradiction, all references to The Fallen were removed from the aforementioned interviews, as well as any references to IDW Publishing having the script.
*Voice actor [[James Arnold Taylor]] was originally cast as The Fallen in the film version of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' (which led to him getting the same role in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen: The Game]]''), but was replaced by [[Tony Todd]] in the final edit of the film, [http://jamesarnoldtaylor.com/blog/2009/06/transformers-voices_24.html to his disappointment.]
*Along with James Arnold Taylor, [[Leonard Nimoy]] (the voice of [[Galvatron (G1)| G1 Galvatron]]) was considered to be the voice of The Fallen himself. However, [[Michael Bay|the director]] was worried that he would have paid him too little money. So, Nimoy, who wanted to be in Transformers since his role as Galvatron, was nixed. Nimoy finally played another Transformer when cast as [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] in ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''.
[[Image:TheFallen-ROTFstaff.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Give him the stick! Don't give him the stick!]]
*The Fallen's "Command Staff" (also known as the "Void Scepter"<ref>[http://www2.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/cybertronian-database.cfm#/characters/the-fallen The Fallen's bio at Hasbro.com]</ref>) seemed to be a later addition to the film, as the staff made no appearances in secondary fiction and was not included with The Fallen's original toy releases. The later Voyager class figure includes said staff, and the toy's hands were retooled to be able to hold it.
*[[Paul Ozzimo]] and [[Josh Nizzi]] designed Earth modes for The Fallen to take on in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', but like many of the Decepticons he does not assume one in the finished film. Ozzimo clarified on his website he was to turn into a [[Wikipedia:Aurora (aircraft)|Aurora]] stealth bomber, the alleged modern replacement for the [[Jetfire (ROTF)|SR-71 Blackbird]].
*Various on-package [[Hasbro]] [[bio]]s for the Fallen in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline utilize the derogatory term "flesh slugs" for humanity; the term originally appeared in the same manner in the 1980s ''[[Inhumanoids]]'' cartoon, based on another toyline by Hasbro.
*The Fallen was originally going to be ''huge'' in ''Revenge of the Fallen'': the novelization describes him as making Optimus look like an infant, and ''Defiance'' issue 4 depicts him as about the size of a pyramid. In the finished film, Fallen is only slightly bigger than Optimus and Megatron, and ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]'' clarifies he is 42 feet tall. And then at BotCon 2010, it was revealed the Primes were originally "rightfully huge"...
*Michael Bay doesn't actually like the Fallen, calling him "kind of a (expletive) character".<ref>[http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2010-06-11-Transformers11_ST_N.htm?csp=usat.me USA Today, "Next 'Transformers' is due for a switch"]</ref>
*In early drafts of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', the Fallen doesn't appear in person until the climax, communicating with Megatron aboard the ''Nemesis'' via an interdimensional window. This led to the [[sarcophagus]] storyline in the comics, where only discovering the harvester's location would free him. When dropped from the film to give the character more screentime, it led to a massive plot hole that was only finally resolved by [[John Barber]] in the [[Convergence chapter 4|fourth chapter]] of ''[[Transformers: Convergence|Convergence]]''.
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===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''The Fallen''' (ザ・フォールン ''Za Fōrun'')

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Talk:The Fallen

2012-02-01T03:15:13Z

Karhukjnsi: /* Capitalization concerning the Aligned continuity. */ new section

That bit about how the Fallen was created by Pat Lee? In the latest edition of Wayward's [http://www.insecticons.com/insecticomics.html Insecticomics] it is said that it was actually Furman who created the character, that Lee just did the design. When I asked her about it, she posted this [http://p206.ezboard.com/fthepaddedcell71381frm19.showMessage?topicID=2995.topic&index=107 transcript] which backs that up. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:46, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

OK so I just left line in the trivia, cos I thought it was funny.
* So he's the henchman of a evil being, has mystical supernatural powers, is a badass and is on fire? Someone might want to file a law suit.

Can it stay or should I take it back down?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 09:33, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

..I don't even get that. [[User:AlwaysWrong|AlwaysWrong]] 22:44, 10 June 2009 (EDT)
:It was removed, it contained a link to the wikipedia article for Ghost Rider[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 09:33, 22 June 2009 (EDT)

==Head==
Anyone notice that his head is very Soundwave-y? When i first saw him, i clearly recognized his head as soundwave's with added badassery.--[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 05:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

==Disambig time?==
http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=59522272-D56F-E112-4C783175A8BBBAD6

Ah-heh.

(SOMEBODY IN THAT MOVIE DAMN WELL BETTER BE ON FIRE.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

==Fallen, Bludgeon and Megs==

I don't know about Bludgeon, but there is a connection between the Fallen and Megs: IDW Megatron's Cybertronian body is based off of the Fallen, right down to the design of the Fusion Cannon. [[User:GWolfv2]] 21.07 June 11

== Defiance issue 4 Fallen's backstory ==

Defiance issue 4 is out. [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/revenge-of-the-fallen-prequel-comic-defiance-4-provides-potential-movie-spoilers-167267/ TFW2005.com has posted all the Fallen-relevant spoilers from issue 4, but beware, if you're avoiding Defiance, this spoils the Fallen's crazy scheme in the movie]. The backstory for the Fallen seems fairly different to the Fallen we know. So are they still the same guy? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:56, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
:Still appears to be a member of the Thirteen, still appears to betray them, still apparently serves a force that devours planets/stars.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:12, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
::But from what I understand of the "multiversal singularity" characters thing, there's just one Fallen, so the guy created by Primus who eventually serves Unicron is also a guy created by a Cube who serves nobody but himself and is building solar towers to replenish the Cube. Or is the currently-untold story of the 13 vague enough that this still works? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:20, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
::It does seem pretty distinct. One's a "created by mighty power source, got selfish, betrayed his brothers, now want to kick off where things went wrong" other "created as a multiversal control for entrophy and warrior against Unicron. Switched sides. Most dangerous servant of the ultimate evil ever". [[User:Eire]] 21.21 Apr 8 2009 (UTC)
:I don't trust a 3rd party summary written by someone who may not fully understand the story to accurately represent what's actually in the story. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:44, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
::In any case, I suspect we are probably going to need to wait to see what the movie itself has to say before making a decision on this. It may expand on what is presented in the comic, it may contradict it in some way, it could make it easier to tie this version in with the previous mythos or may firmly separate it, etc. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:54, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
:::I don't think we would have to wait until the movie if the comic is fairly clear on the matter. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:59, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
::::I think we do, because as I said, we have no way of knowing in advance how well the actual movie will line up with the comic. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:05, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
:The Fallen is one thing, but what about definite "multiversal singularity" Primus? Does the AllSpark=Primus in the movieverse? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:59, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
::The AllSpark has been designated a [[sacred implement]] in Japanese fiction.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:07, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
:::It is not uncommon for Transformers to have no knowledge of Primus or Unicron. For every world where they have a full-blown religion to fill them in, you have one where the Transformers have neither heard of either-- remember in [[The Transformers: The Movie]] Hot Rod and Kup had never even heard Unicron's name before. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:06, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
Did they not mention that the Fallen calls himself and his other pals "trans-dimensional beings"? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:48, 8 April 2009 (EDT)
:Not the mention [http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2009-04-01-transformers-first-look_N.htm this interview] affirming he's the original and was "banished to another dimension." -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:06, 15 April 2009 (EDT)
::I think what they mean by that is that he's stuck in that stupid pylon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:15, 15 April 2009 (EDT)

==The Fallen gets Power Plans!==
[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2009/05/transformers-movie-universe-preview.html] Preview page from the upcoming DK Ultimate Movie Guide, which is totally written by Furman. It establishes a few important things. The Fallen is an "omniversal tyrant." He betrayed his fellow Primes to serve the source of his new "chaotic" powers "from the very birth of the universe," forces which seek to replace morality with a "void." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:06, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
:If Nimoy is cast as him, it will be the second time in his career that he'll be playing some sort of servant of Unicron. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:36, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

== Subject Seperation ==

Will you make a separate page the live action version of the Fallen? --Some Random User guy {{unsigned|69.230.53.229|00:50, May 20, 2009 EDT}}
:As we far as we know, the Fallen is a multi-dimensional being that can... you get the picture. If this Fallen is established as a seperate being, then maybe.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 01:01, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
::And as seen in Walky's post above this, the DK guide establishes the Fallen as an "Omniversal tyrant". That more or less means the Fallen is one of those characters who can travel between dimensions, and there's only one of him. Thus, we consider ROTF Fallen to be the same guy as Dreamwave comics Fallen, unless the movie says otherwise (and it obviously won't). --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 02:36, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
::Despite the brain-bending problems this creates with the other 12, yes. Are they all birthed by the AllSpark then? That's not what The Ultimate Guide says... (We'll figure it out. Expect the backpedaling, qualifications and clarifications to begin trickling in this fall.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:15, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
:::You know, the movie universe could have two individuals named the Fallen. I mean, it's not a real name, but rather a sort of title, right? Why couldn't the omniversal tyrant and some douchebag that came from the AllSpark live in the same universe? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 04:26, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
:::'''Two''' dimension-hopping flaming ancient Primes who discarded their name in favor of being called "The Fallen" after betraying their 12 fellow Primes, the oldest of Transformers?
:::We already have the Covenant and the Thirteen. Don't make this ''more'' complicated. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:39, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
:::I personally think they should be seperated. I mean, he's been trapped in that relic, or whatever it exactly is, for a really long time. How could he of shown up in the IDW series? And, the other 12 sacrificed themselves, so, how could they exist either? -[[User:VakamaMetruNui|VakamaMetruNui]] 09:29, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
::::(The Dreamwave series, not the IDW series.) That's really easy to explain. The DW Fallen was also trapped in a dimension, same as the Movie one. He was able to break free of it due to a space bridge accident, and was apparently banished back to it by Primus. (He would have returned if DW hadn't gone bankrupt, so he wasn't dead.) Who knows how time and space work in there. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:11, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::Unicron keeps showing up in new places yet always gets defeated in more or less the same way; why should his gothy wanna-be have it any better? Since his "real" origin was as a creation of Primus, perhaps the entire Movie AllSpark / Movie Original 13 was something the Fallen himself put together later--he tried his own hand at being a god, while actually not claiming credit for it but just inserting himself among the lineup, like Keyser Soze. Or maybe he used his woowoo omniversal magic to sense that some other god was about to create the AllSpark, and then he twisted the whole process to his own ends. Who knows. And if all that sounds like a deus-ex-machina, remember that that is LITERALLY what he is. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 10:24, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
[[Image:Defianceissue4-creation.jpg|right|thumb|100px|What dimension did this happen in? The movie-verse? Not necessarily.]]
::::::I think splitting the page of a known dimension-hopper goes against common sense. Without a really good reason, of course. I don't think there is a good reason yet. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:47, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::::At BotCon 2009, Hasbro copy-writer Forest Lee stated once again (at the Collectors' Club panel) that the Original 13 are all multiversal singularities. Apparently the upcoming movie hasn't changed his mind! So let's hold on to our current setup for the time being. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:11, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::He didn't state this before, IIRC he stated that they were ''probably'' Multiversal singularities before.
::::::::Do you or anyone (Steve) have an exact working on his statement this weekend? It's worth citing it on the 13 page. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:52, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::I don't, no. And Steve-o wasn't there this weekend, so we are without his meticulous information-gathering. He did specifically say that the original 13 were multiversal singularities, though. It was in response to someone asking if Shattered Glass The Fallen would be icy. Forest said that as one of the 13, The Fallen doesn't have any multiverse counterparts. There's just one of him, the same as Vector Prime and the others. (Trent noted that he liked to believe that if the Fallen were to ever wander into the Shattered universe, his flames would turn to ice, much to his confusion.)--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:53, 2 June 2009 (EDT)
Is there evidence that supports ROTF Fallen is the same as the character in The War Within?--[[User:TOM|TOM]] 13:20, 29 August 2010 (EDT)
:Evidence in the form of fictional stories? No. Apparently not. It is all shadow evidence as far as I can tell. Word of mouth at conventions and [[Hasbro Q&A/July 2009: Answers|a Hasbro Q&A]]. Should the wiki hang its hat on such shadow evidence? Or would the "multiversal singularity" thing be better put in the "notes" section until it shows up in fiction? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:53, 29 August 2010 (EDT)
::If this Wiki wants to wait on merging Alpha Trions I suggest your side doesn't split the G1, UT, ROTF and Prime versions of Prima, Megatronus, Liege or Vector. And it wouldn't call it shadow evidence considering Megatronus explicitly described his brothers as able to traverse dimensions, or Vector and Nexus being the sole versions of those characters flying about the timelines. "[[Reunification: Part 5|All Cybertrons are yours.]]" [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:15, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

== Movie altmode ==

FYI: If we get Hasbro photography depicting a toy with an altmode (we have!) and the paragraph in question is describing that toy, then ''the presence of said altmode is officially confirmed''. I don't know under what logic you can say otherwise.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:10, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
:Remember Scorponok's robot mode? I believe the debate is whether or not The Fallen's vehicle mode was something invented for the toyline. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 20:48, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
::Except the altmode description was removed from the toy section. The toy has an altmode. Plain as day. Thus the section describing that toy ought to mention said altmode.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:07, 22 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Ah, right then. Well... most of what I said can be salvaged, assuming this argument comes up outside the toy section. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 21:14, 22 May 2009 (EDT)

== Decepticon symbol ==

I see there is a Decepticon symbol on The Fallen's page for a long while, is this something related to his toy(s)? Thanks. (I can't reach my Titanium Fallen now, so... ) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 11:24, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
: His ROTF toy packaging consistently labels him a Decepticon. He helped Megatron START the Decepticon faction in the live-action continuity. And the Decepticon faction symbol is based on his face. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:35, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

:::So it is really due to the ROTF. Thanks. ;-D --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:55, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

::What they said.
::I notice the Beast-machines Dinobots symbol links to the Dinobots disambig page-- was it used tor the Wal-Mart Dinobots as well? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:56, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

==Mainpic==
When the Wikia site comes up on Google, it also has a secondary link, which is their version of this page. Our secondary link is [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|''Animated'']], which is unfortunately now a bit less relevant than theirs. (Notably, they've even rebranded their site to have a Movie look.) Happily, our [[The Fallen]] is much better than theirs because we've expanded the DW section, and they still haven't written ANYTHING about the prequel comics. Plus, y'know, there's [[:Image:WikiaAdInsert_TheFallen.jpg|the stuff that made us leave in the first place]]. But in the interests of sealing the relevancy deal, I suggest we change the mainpic to be The Fallen's ROTF body. That way even at a GLANCE a viewer can see which one is more up-to-date. What do you all think? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:23, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:I support this. We've got good promo renders of it. Let's do it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:29, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
:Sounds good to me, I say go for it. Maybe change it back when the movie buzz fades down, but for now, yeah, totally. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:44, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
::Heh, so they merged the articles back. TX55 was an editor here. Doesn't he notice the borked layout of the images? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:00, 4 June 2009 (EDT)

===New main pic===
[[Image:ROTF The Fallen promotional 1.jpg|thumb|right|250px|You dare photograph me?! I am a a Prime!]]
Swap the current one for a promotional shot from [[Josh Nizzi]]'s website? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 13:58, 21 July 2009 (EDT)
:Naw, I prefer the one we have now. Flashier. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 14:12, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

==Grargh fiction==
Do we really need to separate out his various DK Ultimate Guide and Titanium information into their own little sections. Can't we throw those into the beginning of the Dreamwave continuity section and cite them appropriately? This page is now a real friggin' chore to read and understand. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:58, 6 June 2009 (EDT)
:Yeah, it sorta feels like it's... out of order. Cause, it is. Fictionally. I mean, I grok what Jackpot has done - he's put it in publication order, which I know is an approach that he's generall favoured in the past, but to me, it just doesn't "read" right. (Also, I am totally about to ruin the "he is on fire" joke. Watch me go!) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:05, 6 June 2009 (EDT)
::I feel a little weird about combining them like that, but I don't full-on object. I don't think there's ever been precedent for putting toy-bio info into a comic-series summary, but in this case there was clearly intent behind the bio to make it mesh, and there are no variant ''War Within'' "continuities." All I can do is note that it's unorthodox and move along.
::Oh, and Walky, thanks for restoring the continuity-family headers. My theory is that since our default organizational model is to separate our articles based on continuity family, whenever we break that "rule," we should call it out.
::- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 16:49, 7 June 2009 (EDT)

==Really not buying the 'multiversal singularity' thing here==
Recently, I saw the new movie and....... I don't see how it could possibly be the same character as in Dreamwave's comics.
Not only is his entire backstory different, but his motives also seem different and the film also makes mention that The Fallen was a member of 8 original leaders (if I remember correctly), as opposed to 13.
Not to mention his radically different appearance (the other 'multiversal singularities' at least all looked alike) and abilities.

Unless the writers find a way of explaining how this could be possible, I don't see how it makes any form of sense.
:The fact it's 8 and not 13 is the first sign that the writers ''intend'' to explain it. They're backpedaling away from making it "The 13" because it creates ''way'' to many problems.
:We all basically agree that it makes not sense now, but this ('''very''' last-minute) change strongly indicates that it ''will'' make sense, and that Hasbro's story-gurus has finally figured out how they intend to make it fit. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:33, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
::I seriously doubt that Hasbro's story-gurus had any imput whatsoever on the contents of the movie itself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:35, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Yes, I think that rather than being The 'Multiversal Singularity' Fallen, The (ROTF) Fallen is just a 'fallen' Prime who is subsequently and coincidentally called "The Fallen". He happens to have the same name, like Prowl, Prowl, Prowl, Prowl and Prowl.[[Special:Contributions/218.214.49.189|218.214.49.189]] 21:02, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
::::That's nice, but Hasbro's packaging bio writer is saying that's not the case. Thus we have to go with what he says. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:09, 23 June 2009 (EDT)
So... Doesn't this mean that since he died in the movie, he has died in all universes forever, since he is a "multiversal singularity"?[[Special:Contributions/76.251.230.101|76.251.230.101]] 19:59, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:When a multiversal singularity "dies" in one universe, he'll reappear in another universe --[[Special:Contributions/72.64.107.124|72.64.107.124]] 20:02, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::I've seen that idea expressed on the Wiki before, but I've never seen a source for it. Basically... says who? In fact, most of what we "know" about multiversal singularities comes not from the fiction itself, but from creator comments. I don't agree with putting [[authorial intent]] on that high a pedestal, especially when its results are flat-out nonsensical. I think that at best, author-intent should get a Note, not define central aspects of how we describe characters. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 20:16, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Hear hear! Besides, saying that a character is a multiuniversal singularity only lasts until someone else says he's not. Then we get a weird state of 'he's mostly a multiuniversal singularity, except where he isn't' situation. I think this sort of notion warrants about as much consideration as a Madman DVD book saying that Cyclonus categorically was Skywarp - we note it, then we go on with the rest of our lives. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 20:37, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::::There's at least some indication that Mowry and Furman are going to attempt to reconcile the multiversal singularity thing, or at least hang a lampshade on it and run with it, in [[Transformers: Tales of the Fallen|Tales of the Fallen]]. We may get our answer soon.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:09, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::''saying that a character is a multiuniversal singularity only lasts until someone else says he's not''
:::::Bingo. No matter how much people might like Forrest's ideas, it's just as much "authorial intent" whenever anybody else at Hasbro or IDW or Bay's workshop says something that contradicts him. We know he's multiversal, or "omniversal," whatever, because one of the movie guidebooks says so. I try not to think too hard about the "13-whoops-7-Primes" clusterfuck. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 21:48, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::I think the idea of Multiversal Singularities dieing in one universe and appearing in another has 2 sources: 1) Unicron - He's a multiversal singularity and this is demonstrably how he works, and 2) Vector Prime - After his death in the UT he's seen again in the final credits battling Galvatron again. Granted it's supposition, but I think that's the basis for the idea.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.72.27|76.28.72.27]] 21:22, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::::Unicron's many deaths constitute one of the reasons why the multiversal-singularity idea is generally thought to be nonsensical. The idea that he "respawns" every time he's destroyed is a rationalization somebody here came up with; it's never been shown to ''happen'' in the fiction. And Vector Prime's case barely applies; he wasn't destroyed the way Unicron or The Fallen were; he just permanently phased outside of normal time because he overexerted his temporal powers. It was presumably in this non-time limbo that he battled Galvatron again, and where he will be forever. Ultimately, I think Rosicrucian's right: We should wait until "Tales of the Fallen" comes out before we make any hard-and-fast calls on the subject. But I've [[Talk:Unicron#"Respawning"?|long thought]] that we should be more rigorous about letting the fiction alone define "multiversal singularity" instead of the authors, and I'll be more than happy if future information radically changes what we think it means. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:43, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::The bio for TRU-excl. Universe Unicron says he travels through multiple dimensions and that whenever he dies he comes back to life. I don't think it says he has to be reobrn in a different dimension than the one he just died in, but honestly, once they've officialized and published the "multidimensionality and immortality" aspect, precisely where he is at ANY given moment in any life doesn't matter. But that's just Unicron--there's nothing as cut-and-dried in published form for the rest of them, I don't think. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:08, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::Ah, that's interesting. Let's [http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3254/2856639219_b4fb44b44e.jpg?v=0 take a look]... Hm, it actually sounds more like Vector Prime's existence than the hoppity-hop-from-universe-to-universe model that's been the wiki party line. Unicron "floats through the non-space between dimensions, reaching out with his sensors to find the universe with the most energy. Those dimensions he finds suitable, he consumes." Also, "He has been defeated or destroyed countless times, yet he always returns [...] for [...] He is evil incarnate, and as long as there is evil, there is Unicron." It sounds like, whereas Vector Prime is stuck outside of time and can only send messages (or swords) into the timestream, Unicron can actually manifest himself in a very real and devastating way. But they share some essential transcendent nature, which to me is a bit more sensical than the more linear model. I read it to mean that basically he can keep coming back because he's always got one foot outside of normal space-time, and destroying a specific incarnation will never be enough. It's not a full "death." Plus he's got that strange relation to the concept of evil, which is backed up in the ''Armada'' cartoon when only Galvatron's death and the resulting end of the war could destroy him. As you say, I don't know how this would apply to The Fallen or others, but one thing at a time... - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 00:06, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::::It's not particularly relevant, but I just want to point out that Vector Prime ''did'' actually die, in the sense that his linear lifespan came to an end point. He continues to exist because ''prior'' to his death, he spent most of his existence outside of the timestream, and since time has no meaning there, he will ''always'' be there, watching and guiding. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:55, 4 August 2009 (EDT)

== Change of appearance ==

From TF; The Movie Universe
{{quote|The Fallen butchered and betrayed his brother Primes, disowning his given name in favor of one befitting his new, terrifying appearance.|[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]] p86|"The Fallen"}}
Late intot he game, we have the idea that The Fallen may have changed his appearance. (And since his appearance is really no different than the other Primes... it begs the question what the hell this is talking about.)

Oh, and Walky was wondering abotu the curiously-regular panes of transparent plastic on The Fallen toy's shoulders... accordign to the guidebook, he has "Energon Distribution arcs" in his shoulders-- I think they're actually supposed to represent some sort of energy blade. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:44, 21 June 2009 (EDT)

== Unreliable narrator ==

So I saw the ROTF film. It really doesn't clash with the Multiversal Singularity thing too bad... it's Defiance that's the real problem. And I'm beginning to think that Definace just had a ''serious'' case of "unreliable narrator."

Let's assume (for a moment) that the Fallen ''was'' lying about parts of his backstory to Megatron. He certainly didn't mention Primus or Unicron (so we know he left stuff out) and we know he was snowing Megatron about making him a Prime (something you apparently have to be born to in the Movieverse.) He's ALREADY demonstrably lying, so lets throw out everything he said about his own origins, and assume he's actually the same dimension-hopping spanish-speaking nutjob we know and love-- what would the universe 'look' like?

Logically, The Fallen {{redact|''traveled'' to this universe and integrated himself with it-- somehow convincing the six Founding Primes of the universe that he was one of them. He then secretly endeavored to murder them all, destroy the Earth and seize ultimate power for himself using the sun harvester.}}

Of course, if this was '''actually''' what happened, and The Fallen is lying... you'd expect there to be some ''indicator['' of this in the IDW comics.

[[Image:Ros03 cuberitual.png|thumb|250px]]
Oh hey, look at that! It's the ancient illustration Starscream was trying to replicate in "Reign of Starscream"! The ''only'' piece of evidence from the era of the original Primes that ''doesn't'' come from our Unreliable Narrator. And what does it show?
{{redact|'''Six''' Primes surrounding the AllSpark cube as it is renewed by the Sun Harvester. '''Not''' seven.}} -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:55, 24 June 2009 (EDT)
:As much as I really want to make this all work, I don't know if I want to go the Unreliable Narrator route. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:18, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::Neither do I... but if IDW chooses to quietly change the 13 primes to the 7 in their Movie Spotlight books... at ''that'' point the Fallen's retelling of history becomes much more actively wrong, and this bit from Reign of Starscream fits quite nicely.
::I figured it was worth highlighting as a possibility. It wouldn't be appropriate to present it as "fact" until IDW gets a crack at it. (It seems almost inevitable that there are Retcons Comings.) But i was pleased to discover that there's at least one ''fairly'' clean way here to make things more-or-less fit, and it ties into some pre-established continuity arond Starscream's plan with the [[Replica AllSpark]], which is a definite plus in terms of making the change less jarring. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:27, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Your way probably works better than my "the other 6 Primes were busy." But still, that's fanon until Forest Lee gets a crack at it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:31, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::...That leaves me a little worried that we're putting our hopes on IDW. Especially since they caused quite a few of the problems. And lets not even get into their record of continuity consistency in okaying [[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:34, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::But '''nothing''' the movies is 100% consistent with one another. Did you notice Leo mentioned the big fight from the 2007 movie took place in '''L.A.'''? And the IDW comics aren't in continuity with the ''first'' movie in a strict sense either-- Reign of starscream dedicated a page to re-doing the "gathering of the 'cons" from the dfirst movie ''just'' so they could assert "no, he's called BRAWL damnit." Or the helicopter being shot down over <strike>Afganistan</strike> America.
:::::Frankly, I think think the wiki would be best off is we weaned ourselves of this tendency to present the IDW comics as somehow "the primary continuity." They're definitely bound up tightly with the movies... but they ''aren't'' in perfect continuity with them-- and it's not just oddities, it's outright deliberate contradiction, like the Brawl thing. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:57, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::Until I get an official reasoning to change continuity flow of various fiction, I'd rather leave the articles as they are. Brawl thing - who cares, really? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 04:36, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::::By which you mean "structured differently than every other fiction section on the wiki." ;)
:::::::(I'm not really pushing for the restructure either. Just talking in general terms.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:54, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I'm set in my ways, dagnabbit. Yeah, the movie kind of started the movement of supporting fiction such as comic books and novels more or less directly being in continuity with the primary fiction, something we saw later in Animated. As opposed to the traditional TF method of having comics and cartoons and books all going in completely different directions. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:26, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

::::You've got it backwards. The Mowry-penned stuff has some of the best internal consistency of the entire continuity.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:37, 25 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Right, Mowry was foreshadowing the RotF plot in the second issue of Reign of Starscream, before ''anything'' had leaked. And he seems to have a pretty clear idea where almost ''every'' character "was" before and after the war, how they're related to one another, etc. He also did a ''lot'' of ground work to make the game drones fit right. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:57, 25 June 2009 (EDT)

== Voyager toy ==

The Voyager toy has slidable gauntlets, shinguards, and some kind of firey thing under the shinguards, but none of these are called out in the instructions, or seem to serve any point in either mode. Should this be mentioned in the article, and if not, does anyone know what the deal with them is?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 20:50, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

== "saturn"? ==

Especially because the novel specifically says it's not Saturn, can we get rid of this? Unless it was revealed in an interview or on a toy bio or something, all the movie shows is that it's on the moon of a ringed planet - without specifically identifying it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 19:22, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:I think it has to be Saturn unless it is a plot hole. Megatron just flies there in about a day or so. It has to be in the solar system, I think. Megatron was never shown to have a personal space bridge like Jetfire. Can Megatron travel faster-than-light? Possibly, but the space bridge seems to be this universe's faster-than-light technology. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:57, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::I recall seeing something about how Megatron can travel interstellar distances, but that he's supposed to be one of the few Transformers who can. Additionally, we see the Decepticons travel to Earth in transition form, implying that they are coming from somewhere in the solar system. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:59, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Yes, Megatron can travel interstellar distances, but in a day or two? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:02, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::::And return with Starscream and Grindor? And have The Fallen and a buttload of new Hatchlings arrive not soon after? They can't be lightyears away. That'd basically be Yet Another Plothole. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:09, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::According to the Ultimate Guide, The Fallen actually can do something like a space bridge, so wouldn't it be possible for the Fallen to have brought them to the final battle? Unless the Fallen can only do personal transport.
:::::For Grindor, though, do we know he was actually on the Nemesis?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:47, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::I thought someone might suggest that about The Fallen, so I didn't argue that point. I think that if he has the ability to space bridge armies across interstellar distances I would wonder why he would need the Nemesis at all. Starscream also made it to the Nemesis but he had a little longer, he could have hailed a space taxi or something. I think the movie strongly implies the Decepticons traveled by protoform from a relatively short distance and landed on the aircraft carriers. Even The Fallen. He seems to have traveled by protoform. Maybe space bridging long distances uses too much energy? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:13, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::"Saturn" appears to have a nebula in the background in the movie.
:::::::Which means that unless you can provide a cite for it being Saturn, it's not Saturn. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:51, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

==Power of a Prime?==
Why is that important? --[[User:Boba Fett|Boba Fett]] 20:15, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:Why is pointing out the differences between the film itself and its adaptations important? Is that what you're asking? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:19, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:Why IS information about a Transformer in a Transfomers wiki important, I wonder? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:50, 12 July 2009 (EDT)
:The novel and comics are similar enough to the movie that they don't merit their own sections on the page, so the few significant differences that DO crop up need to go SOMEWHERE. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 20:53, 12 July 2009 (EDT)

==Main Pic==

Since the standard practice to to have the main image use the body the character first appeared in, rather than their most recent or more well known, shouldn't the main pic here be his Dreamwave body? [[User:Eire]] 23.45 18 Aug 09 (UTC)
:In this case it was changed so that movie visitors wouldn't reach the page and go "who the hell is this guy?" as well as to visually distinguish our article from Wikia's.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:25, 18 August 2009 (EDT)

==Leader Class==

I found a clip on Youtube about a Leader class The Fallen toy. It's extremely close to the CGI version in design and look and it comes with a staff. I think it's a fanmade one, but it's definitely worth noticing. I have proof. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q142a9Fl9_c]--[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 09:49, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
: Yeah, that's a custom by FrenzyRumble. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:51, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

== Image:Vectorprimeut.jpg ==

OK, who put that there? The Fallen isn't even on it. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:07, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
: Read the caption and come back to me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:09, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
::I just wasted two seconds on reading a caption which I have already memorized, and another ten on checking the image again. The Fallen is NOT on the image. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:19, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
:::...yes he is. See the guy behind Vector Prime? His silhouette matches The Fallen's. Pay special attention to the little spikey hangy-things on his crotch, plus the shape of his head. And don't talk to ME about wasting time. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:21, 20 October 2009 (EDT)
::::My bad. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:26, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

== Unable to edit ==
I noticed that I am unable to edit The Fallen page why is that. Also I thing the sarcophagus should have its own link and that it should be edited to make it more appropiate. --[[User:Naruotfox94|Narutofox94]] 10:04, 14 November 2009

== Lawson Exclusive EZ Fallen??? ==

Just noticed the pic of the 'Lawson exclusive' EZ figure.

Apparently the version of EZ Fallen released in the 2-pack with Soundwave was actually the standard US version, and the Takara-Tomy picture was incorrect. Unless anyone has an official source (in-hand pictures, on-line sales listings etc) that says the Japanese version of the Legends figure is any different from the US colours, I'd recommend deleting this photo. [[Special:Contributions/213.123.203.109|213.123.203.109]] 09:03, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:... that doesn't make any sense. If we don't have any in-hand photos, how do we know it's the SAME as the US release? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 10:10, 1 December 2009 (EST)
::So what you're saying is that we have this exclusive Legends Fallen, now released in Japan. You'd think it might show up ''somewhere''? But there's not a squeak of it on YouTube, on eBay, or for that matter ANY Transformers retailer or website you can care to name (trust me, I've checked). I realise it's supposedly an exclusive, but I can't think of another occasion in all my years of collecting when a figure's been commercially released and yet NO-ONE has seen it. As I say, I think it's just a bad photograph.

::Also, note that the two supposed 'exclusives' in this Lawson offer were Mudflap and The Fallen... which haven't actually been released in Japan as part of the main EZ line (nor have they been announced as forthcoming). So it would make sense that these are the standard US versions, which were Lawson store exclusives in Japan. Just like how ROTF Deluxes Dead End, Swerve and Stalker Scorponok were on general sale in the US but store exclusives in Japan.

::I seem to recall pictures of Takara Deluxe Ravage and Voyager Mixmaster with different paint apps too (extra purple on Ravage and a different coloured head on Mixmaster) - yet both releases ended up the same as their US counterparts. Early photos of the Takara combiner Devastator (shown in Hyber Hobby and Dengeki Hobby) has the US grey face that was later changed to red in Japan. We now know that the Deluxe red Rampage has a movie-accurate silver shovel, not the red one we saw in the early pictures. My point here is that promotional photos are notoriously unreliable.

::I realise I'm on shaky ground here - It's very difficult to prove something ''doesn't'' exist. But I think at the very least the point should be made on the page that this so-called redeco has never - to anyone's knowledge - been sighted outside of a low-res photo on the Takara website. And possibly never will.[[Special:Contributions/91.104.167.124|91.104.167.124]] 13:55, 7 December 2009 (EST)
:::This strikes me as a question that would easily be resolved if we had actual contact with the Japanese fanbase.... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:01, 7 December 2009 (EST)
::::OK, after a bit of research, I've discovered that the US and Japanese versions of these legends are IDENTICAL. There are pictures on TFW2005 (I think you need to be a member to sign into the forums) [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/281376-rotf-takara-v-hasbro-comparisons.html] So this page ''does'' need to be changed, as does Mudflap's.[[Special:Contributions/91.104.167.124|91.104.167.124]] 17:20, 7 December 2009 (EST)

== Page Quote ==

To be fair... whether or not it should be changed to LesterX's idea, the current quote does suck. It says pretty much zero about the Fallen's personality or motivation or purpose or anything. All it says is that he's from some past time period, which is true of every 13 member. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:21, 7 January 2010 (EST)
:I never was crazy about it but it does do a good job of summing up a pretty major aspect of the character. I'm gonna go through all his comic appearances and have a look for a better one (can't think of one from the movie) [[User:Eire]] 00.00 Jan 08 2009 (UTC)
::Change the top quote all you want, but "kali ma" is so not going away for another damn "Give me your face" joke. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:05, 7 January 2010 (EST)
:::No argument from me on ''that'' regard. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:14, 7 January 2010 (EST)

==Separate==
I recommend that this page be split into two different pages, as the backgrounds differ. (I would type in a label, but the thing won't let me) [[User:Cold Rod|Cold Rod]] 16:23, 17 May 2010 (EDT)
: I recommend you learn what [[multiversal singularity]] means. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:38, 17 May 2010 (EDT)
::Of which the movie version is not. [[Special:Contributions/74.78.77.122|74.78.77.122]] 12:41, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::::I would like to laugh at this, because do you see that big pile of text on [[multiversal singularity]]? That was taken from a Hasbro response ABOUT SPECIFICALLY MOVIE THE FALLEN. The original question was "If The Fallen is a multiversal singularity, how can we reconcile these various different movie-originated versions of him, like in the novelization and childrens storybooks?" And then we got that answer. So to say that the answer does not pertain to movie The Fallen betrays a monumental ignorance of the subject at hand. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:11, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Prove it. According to Hasbro multiversal singularities can have different backgrounds in different universes and still be the SAME character. Confusing, but true. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:43, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::::So they look exactly the same then? they have the same background? [[Special:Contributions/74.78.77.122|74.78.77.122]] 12:56, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Somebody sign this guy up for a course in logic. Or at least ENGLISH. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:58, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::Seriously, read the [[multiversal singularity]] page. Specifically "multiversal dynamics". - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:00, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::::You said '''can''', not '''do'''. There's a difference. '''Can''' means possibly. '''Do''' means certainly. It doesn't prove their one and the same. The one bathed in fire isn't a Decepticon. In addition, Teletraan 1 (the other wiki) split theirs. [[Special:Contributions/74.78.77.122|74.78.77.122]] 13:05, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Then go annoy them and leave us alone. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:08, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Besides, the other wiki is pretty much abandoned by this community. They're now almost independent. Not only that, but I'm pretty sure Hasbro said they were the same character. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 13:09, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Yes, can. The Fallen has different backgrounds in different universes, but is still a singularity. Other singularities have the same background in different universes. Thus, singularities CAN have different backgrounds. Also, what Teletraan 1 does is not an argument that will go over well here. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:10, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::To cut a long story short, we're treating them as the same because Hasbro writer [[Forest Lee]], who's basically responsible for all the multiversal singularity stuff, ''says they are'', and has offered an explanation for how that works. And yes, kindly refrain from holding up ''anything'' Teletraan-1 does as a basis for how we should do things. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::I thank the other wiki a billion times for separating their Fallen pages, because Google sure likes our page way better now! (and that was fairly immediate) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:07, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Google still prefers Wikia if you add "Transformers" to your search terms for "The Fallen", at least from what I can tell. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:18, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

== Multiversal Clean Up ==

Some people's stubborn refusals to understand his nature aside, I think the article as written right now might contain a few too many "artifacts" from when we were still rather unsure of the Fallen's Multiversal Singularity status and how it worked. The "Origin" section for instance seems to exist entirely to present his differing origins as being a conflict while not mentioning at all that Hasbro's explanation on how singularities work explains any conflict away.

I think the page could use a slight "refresh" (the Origin section especially) to really make it clearer that all the differing apperences, actions, and even origins are all part and parcel of how a mulitversal singularity works and not mistakes or continuity conflicts.

Didn't want to try to touch/alter such a potentially controversial article without feeling people out on the idea first though. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:43, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

:Anyone have any real feelings on this one way or another? If no, I may attempt a clean up as discribed above in the near future. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 13:03, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
::I'm inclined that it gets a "refresh", given the "stubborn refusals to under his nature". MUL-TI-VERSE, how hard is it to understand? Oy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:39, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
:::What is this 'multiverse' of which you speak? Is that a breakfast cereal?--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:44, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
::::A wonderful porridge filled with all the vitamins and minerals (some necessary, some superfluous, and some bad for the waistline) for growing protoforms, from the same company that produces Garbage O's! :B --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:49, 27 May 2010 (EDT)

==Megatronous Prime==
Where the hell did the person who put The Fallen's real name as Megatronous Prime? Which comic or whatever included his real name did that person learn that?
:I believe it was mentioned in the [[Transformers: Exodus|Exodus novel]]. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:32, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::I wonder if that's a reference to the Covenant of Primus... "I am alpha and omega, the beginning and the end. I am that which is, which was, and is yet to come...and you will know my name is Megatron when I lay my vengeance upon you!" Sounds like it could be about the Fallen to me. If that's the case, other Megatrons may have named themselves after him to show how hardcore they are. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:58, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

===Appearance===
Dark, Decepticon symbol face, did he look like Soundblaster? Considering that [[Soundblaster (Cybertron)|Soundblaster]] might or might not be one of the 13, feels like an odd coincidence. I guess we'll have to wait to find out if that actually means anything. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 11:43, 4 September 2010 (EDT)
:No. He looked like this squat, ornately-carved boxy monstrosity whose whole body vaguely looked like a 'Con symbol, the face much moreso, with a big right-arm cannon. Hasbro said in a previous Q&A answer that we should not assume Logos Prime is one of the 13. I would not be surprised if that character never matters again. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:09, 4 September 2010 (EDT)
::Considering Logos Prime can alter his appearance at will, and that Soundblaster is only one of those forms, Logos Prime can basically be any of the other 13 that he wants. Hell, maybe he's the Fallen. </fanon> --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:36, 4 September 2010 (EDT)
:::I put up this section hoping for it to turn out that way. I think I should maybe discuss this on a messageboard. [[User:Item42|Item42]] 20:52, 4 September 2010 (EDT)

==Megatronus vs Megatronus Prime==
When Hasbro did their Thirteen concept art presentation at BotCon, pre-The Fallen was just "Megatronus" rather than "Megatronus Prime". I assume this was intentional, as the only Thirteener to otherwise have "Prime" as part of his name in the line-up was Vector Prime. I don't know how this factoid should be incorporated, though. Just in Notes? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 11:07, 12 July 2010 (EDT)

== Life support chair ==

Where did this info come from? It wasn't clarified in the movie.--[[Special:Contributions/96.54.128.212|96.54.128.212]] 16:49, 23 December 2010 (EST)

== A little request ==

Can we have some notes to compare and contrast Fallen's tie-in IDW comics, game, and promo-render forms with the one presented in the final movie? Or at least, can someone explain to me here on this talk page? I know they're different...but I just can't put my finger on how (probably because of the drought of good full body screencaps of him in ROTF) and it's kind of bugged me for a while now. - [[User:Tyrannolodon|Tyrannolodon]] 11:09, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

== Disciples vs. Apostles ==

''"If the first Transformers were Cybertron's '''disciples''', then The Fallen is its Judas."'' I changed this to "apostles" a short time ago, and my edit was undone with this message as accompaniment: ''"The reference is to''' Jesus' twelve disciples'''. Not all of them became apostles, and not all apostles had been disciples."'' I believe there is a confusion here between "apostle" ("one who is sent forth") and "disciple" (student). The apostles were Jesus' twelve chosen: Peter, Andrew, James the Greater, John, Phillip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James the Lesser, Thaddeus, Simon, and Judas (Judas was later replaced by Matthias, and the title was also granted to Paul and Barnabas). The disciples were simply the followers of Jesus: the first Christians. Since this page refers to the Twelve, the reference should say "apostle." And if anyone wants a source for all this (other than my Catholic upbringing), I'll list the Bible, CatholicAnswers, and my religion teacher (a Dominican sister who DEFINITELY knows what she is talking about). Sorry for the religion lesson, but I'm 99.9% sure that "apostle" is the right word here.
:-[[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] - 2:30 PM, 8 June 2011 A.D.
::You must not have listened carefully. Judas Iscariot was a disciple of Jesus, but he was never an apostle. Because he was not sent forth to teach after Jesus death and resurrection. At least that's the way it was explained in the Baptist Churches I grew up in.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:36, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
:::The only part of Judas sent forth was his intestines. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:44, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
:Does that really apply anymore anyway? There is now the [[Liege Maximo]] so there would be two Judases. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:51, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
::I'm still wondering if there is any actual evidence (the two being specifically mentioned as being somewhere at the same time for instance) that The Fallen isn't the Liege Maximo. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:52, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
:::Uh, the relevant panels at the last two BotCons? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:52, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
::::What exactly was said at the panels, what I've heard didn't sound definitive. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:58, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::What was said is "This is The Liege Maximo. He's one of the 13. Here is Megatronus Prime, another member of the 13. Later, Megatronus Prime becomes this guy, The Fallen." Each of those three entities had their own art. Liege Maximo looked drastically different from Megatronus/Fallen. And... I'm pretty sure The Fallen isn't going to be two different members of the 13. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:27, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::Okay, that is clear. Given that it was stated that they are separate, my question is invalidated. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:19, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
I beg to differ, [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]]: he was sent forth '''before''' Jesus' death. [http://www.biblestudytools.com/rsv/luke/passage.aspx?q=luke+9:1-6 Luke 9:1-6] gives one account of this. Judas was one of the Twelve, AKA the apostles. Also, hee hee... intestines.
:-[[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 3:01 PM, 8 June 2011 A.D.
::I'm not arguing that he wasn't sent forth before Jesus's death, I'm arguing that "the apostles" are those sent forth AFTER Jesus's death. Paul was an apostle, never a disciple. Judas was a disciple, never an apostle (by the definition I gave). Since Fallen = Judas, apostle is not a good term to use here. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:04, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
:::Perhaps [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apostle the dictionary definition] can settle this? Note the list of the Twelve.
::::-[[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 15:59, 8 June 2011 (EDT) 3:59 PM, 8 June 2011 A.D.
:::::I really think this is a Catholic vs Protestant thing. To a Protestant hearing the word Apostle applied before Jesus's death seems weird. Do a google search for "12 Disciples" and look how many Protestant sources use that formulation. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:07, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::Whereas to a Catholic, "12 Disciples" sounds just plain uneducated (no offense intended). So what shall be done here? (All definitions I see in dictionaries still list Judas among the apostles.) -[[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 16:31, 8 June 2011 (EDT)

I'm gonna go out on a whim here and say we should have it compare the Thirteen to the Archangels and that The Fallen is their Lucifer. At least Judas was remorseful enough to kill himself. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 17:02, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
:Lucifer was not an Archangel. He was a Seraph. In fact, the Archangels are the second-lowest in the nine choirs. -[[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 18:23, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
::My point still stands: I had considered changing the comparison from Judas to Lucifer ages ago but opted not to out of respect for the lead ItsWalky wrote. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 18:35, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
::I don't think "Lucifer was not an Archangel" is something that's universally agreed upon, especially since a lot of that stuff is, well, apocryphal. Googling "Lucifer Archangel" sure brings up a lot of stuff about how Lucifer is an Archangel, for example. I think you need to start stating these things with less certainty. There's a lot of Christian mythology, and it all doesn't agree with itself. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:38, 8 June 2011 (EDT)
:::To be perfectly honest, I ''can't'' state these things with less certainty. Being Catholic, I am obligated to believe what the Church teaches. I'm actually quite surprised and fascinated to see some of these other views that I'd never heard of before. But, in Catholic teaching (which we just so happen to regard as objective reality, not just our opinion), Judas was an apostle and Lucifer was the highest of the angels and thus a Seraph. I do hope I don't sound rude or inconsiderate or <insert negative adjective here>, because I don't mean to be. I'm simply pointing out what I thought was an error (that being said, I preferred the Judas comparison to the Lucifer one; [[Unicron]] would make a better Satan parallel). -[[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 20:11, 8 June 2011 (EDT)

==The Fallen's plan in movie continuity==
Now forgive me if this was explained in any of the more recent IDW stuff (I don't own any comics past the ROTF adaptation), but has the Fallen's initial plan with Megatron ever been explained beyond: '''1. Find star harvester, 2. Find Matrix, 3. ???, 4. Control power of the AllSpark'''? By the timeframe of ROTF, the plan is evidently to use energon from the harvester to revitalise the AllSpark-less Cybertron, but this clearly wasn't their original intention. Thanks, [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 17:48, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

== Split? ==

I know that the Fallen is a multiuniversal singularity, but I honestly think the Movie incarnation of The Fallen should get a seperate page. I think the character's article is getting way too long and I think we should split that section. Like [[Optimus Prime (G1)]] gets a page for his appearances in the cartoon and Marvel Comics continuities, I believe that should happen here. We should split the section into an article titled <nowiki>[[The Fallen (Movie)]]</nowiki> or <nowiki>[[The Fallen (ROTF)]]</nowiki> or <nowiki>[[The Fallen/Live-action film continuity family]]</nowiki>.[[Special:Contributions/72.70.64.11|72.70.64.11]] 11:21, 8 November 2011 (EST)

:I know this has been discussed before. I, like you, believe it is possible for all Fallen's to actually be 1 Fallen, but I believe the film incarnation should get a seperate page anyway because this article is getting way too long.[[Special:Contributions/72.70.64.11|72.70.64.11]] 11:26, 8 November 2011 (EST)
::49 kb is not that particularly long. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:18, 8 November 2011 (EST)

== Exodus-Exiles ==

Should the two sections be merged to better represent the in-continuity chronological order?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 13:46, 1 December 2011 (EST)

== Capitalization concerning the Aligned continuity. ==

I don't have "Exodus" so readily available at the moment, but in "Exiles" the capitalization is "the Fallen", more used as an adjective than a name (likely as the "Fallen Prime"). I'm willing to do this, but I move for all mentions of "the Fallen" concerning the Aligned universe be written with the lower case "t", just as "Mini-Con" is "Minicon", or the whole "Brawl/Devastator" movie thing. Not all will be "the Fallen" (like in the movies that DOES have the capitalization) just information with the Aligned continuity family. --[[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 22:15, 31 January 2012 (EST)

Transformers: Prime (toyline)

2012-01-27T06:15:37Z

Karhukjnsi: Seeing as how they're now out (not just in the UK), figured to remove the "Coming Soon" bit.

{{Nav-Prime}}

The '''''Transformers: Prime''''' toyline hit shelves in [[November]] [[2011]]. Beforehand, there had been much doubt as to whether there would be a toyline, partially because of the complex CG designs, and [[Hasbro]] considered releasing Optimus, Bumblebee and Starscream in the ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' line before deciding the show warranted its own label. The first few waves released bear a "First Edition" label, with upcoming toys in 2012 bearing a "Robots in Disguise" subtitle.

==First Edition (2011)==

===Deluxe class===
[[Image:Primetoy-ArceeDeluxe.jpg|thumb|Arcee, a Wave 1 Deluxe figure]]
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Arcee (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Arcee]]
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Bumblebee]]
*[[Starscream (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Starscream]]

'''Wave 1.5'''
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Cliffjumper]]

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)#Terrorcon|Terrorcon Cliffjumper]]
*[[Vehicon (Prime)#Prime|Vehicon]]

===Voyager class===
[[Image:Primetoy-BulkheadVoyager.jpg|thumb|Bulkhead, a Wave 1 Voyager figure]]
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)#Voyager Class toys|Bulkhead]]
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#Voyager Class toys|Optimus Prime]]

===Entertainment Pack===
:*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#EntertainmentPack|Optimus Prime]] vs. [[Megatron (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Megatron]] (w/ [[Jack Darby]], [[Miko Nakadai]], and [[Raf Esquivel]])

===Exclusives===
[[Image:Primetoy-OptimusPrimeMatrixofLeadership.jpg|thumb|Optimus Prime in Matrix packaging exclusive to 2011 San Diego Comic-Con]]
'''SDCC Exclusive'''
*[[Matrix of Leadership]] [[Optimus Prime (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Optimus Prime]] (Deluxe, 2011)
{{-}}
'''NYCC Exclusive'''
[[Image:NYCC-Arcee-Bumblebee.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Pretty in Pink, she is not.]]
*'''Bumblebee and Arcee, Includes Raf Esquivel and Jack Darby'''
:Arcee is a [[redeco]] of Deluxe Class Arcee in pink and white [[Arcee (G1)|''Generation 1'' Arcee colors]] and comes with a New York taxicab [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] and NY-themed [[Jack Darby]] and [[Raf Esquivel]] figurines. They were sold exclusively at New York Comic-Con 2011.
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'''Japanese Exclusive'''
*'''[[Arms Micron]]'''
**[[Aimless (Prime)|Aimless]] - redeco of ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' [[Throttler]]
**[[Blowpipe (Prime)|Blowpipe]] - redeco of ''Power Core Combiners'' [[Groundspike]]
**[[Peaceman (Prime)|Peaceman]] - redeco of ''Power Core Combiners'' [[Chopster]]
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==Robots in Disguise (2012)==
===Cyberverse===
====Legion====
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Arcee (Prime)#Cyberverse|Arcee]]
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)#Cyberverse|Bumblebee]]
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)#Cyberverse|Cliffjumper]]
*[[Ratchet (Prime)#Cyberverse|Autobot Ratchet]]
*[[Vehicon (Prime)#Cyberverse|Vehicon]]
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'''Wave 2'''
*[[Breakdown (Prime)|Breakdown]]
*[[Evac (TF 2010)|Evac]]
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]]
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====Commander====
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)#Cyberverse|Bulkhead]]
*[[Megatron (Prime)#Cyberverse|Megatron]]
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#Cyberverse|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Starscream (Prime)#Cyberverse|Starscream]]
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'''Future waves'''
*[[Ironhide (Prime)#Cyberverse|Ironhide]]
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====Vehicle====
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Star Hammer]] with [[Wheeljack (Prime)#Cyberverse|Wheeljack]]
*Energon Driller with [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]]
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====Base====
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Optimus Maximus]]<ref>[[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content/fmh-live-coverage-uk-toy-fair-2012-2737/ Live coverage of UK Toy Fair 2012]]</ref>

===Revealers===
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Soundwave (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Soundwave]]
*[[Wheeljack (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Wheeljack]]
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Bumblebee]] (Second mold)
*[[Cliffjumper (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Cliffjumper]] (Second mold)

'''Wave 2'''
*[[Ratchet (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Autobot Ratchet]]
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]]
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'''Wave 3'''
*[[Knock Out (Prime)#Deluxe Class toys|Knock Out]]
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]] (Second mold)
*[[Hot Shot (WFC)| Hot Shot]]
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===Powerizers===
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#Prime: Robots in Disguise|Optimus Prime]] (Second mold)
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]]
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'''Future waves:'''
*[[Skyquake (Prime)#Voyager Class toys|Skyquake]]
*[[Starscream (Prime)#Voyager Class toys|Starscream]]
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===Weaponizers===
'''Wave 1'''
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)#Prime: Robots in Disguise|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)#Prime: Robots in Disguise|Bumblebee]] <ref>[[http://www.fullmetalhero.com/content/fmh-live-coverage-uk-toy-fair-2012-2737/ Live coverage of UK Toy Fair 2012]]</ref>

===Entertainment Pack===
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] vs. [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (w/ [[Silas]] and [[MECH]] soldier)
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==Merchandise==
*'''Optimus Prime Stand-up Mover'''
*'''Bumblebee Stand-up Mover'''

===Bot Shots===
====Bot Shots====
*Bumblebee
*Starscream
*Sentinel Prime
*Optimus Prime
*Barricade
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====Bot Shots Big Rig====
*Optimus Prime
*Megatron
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===Roleplay===
* [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] Ion Blaster

====Battle Masks====
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] Battle Mask
* [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] Battle Mask
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====Energon Helmet====
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] Energon Helmet
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[[Category:Toylines]]

====Footnotes====
{{Reflist}}