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Talk:Razor-Sharp

2016-12-11T11:28:25Z

Kayb: Created page with "If memory serves, isn't he also the only Actionmaster partner to have three colors instead of just two? ~~~~"

If memory serves, isn't he also the only Actionmaster partner to have three colors instead of just two? [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] ([[User talk:Kayb|talk]]) 06:28, 11 December 2016 (EST)

Talk:Japanese Generation 1 cartoon timeline

2014-11-10T05:07:19Z

Kayb: /* First two time entries */ forgot sig

==The chronological order of BW and BW2 in Japanese continuity==
(Maybe I cannot write quite clear, but I still want to say about this.) Uh, this has bothered me for few year after Beast Machines' airing. In my opinion, though it is named "Beast Wars ''Second''", that doesn't means BW2 happens directly after BW's event. Because BW and Beast Machines must be together, and Optimus Primal died in the last, he cannot show up in [[Beast Wars Special Super Lifeform Transformers|"Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger" from BW2 portion]]. Thus, the proper chronological order (maybe) should be (Note: Ignore the BW2 manga):
:Events in Planet Gaia (Lio Convoy and his crew fought Galvatron and his troops) > (Maybe BW Neo can be put there) > BW Megatron stole the Golden Disk > Axalon and Darksyde crash-landed on prehistorical Earth > events in [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|BW]] > Maximal went back to Cybertron but were attacked by Vehicons > events in [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|BM]]
::--[[User:TX55|TX55]] 04:49, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

:...it had been my impression that BW2 and Neo happened 'while' BW was ongoing. They represent events back in the Maximals 'native' time after the Axalon's disappearance, but before Beast Machines occoured. In short-- the airing order more-or-less reflects the order of events.
:(I didn't think BW2 occurring simultaneously to BW/Metals was ever in question.)-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:03, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::One problem with that is that Gaia is supposed to be Earth in the far, far future, after almost all of human civilization is overgrown and forgotten. It doesn't really mesh with the "300 years after the Great War" thing. I assume that's why the timeline's writer(s) placed it somewhere in the indeterminate future. --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 12:21, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Just saw a horrible explanation. The reason that Primal show up in [[Beast Wars Special Super Lifeform Transformers|the BW2 movie]] is because the impact from the explosion of Planet Buster made him warp in to the future Earth "Gaea". As a matter of fact, the explosion kill him instead of the time travelling. Everybody knows BW2 was made before the conclusion of BW. Gees, if this is true/canon(though I hope not), I hope it has be retconned...... Japanese is really TOO ''imaginative''. --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 16:03, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

== References ==

You reference two timelines from the KP-era, fine. Are there translations of them for us to read? Is every event listed here for those two timelines? Did you add anything else in? This is a ''lot'' of content, and I'm having trouble parsing what came from where, even the stuff that looks like old info looks like it's had a lot of new additions to it. (And I still don't get how BW2 took place further in the future than BW-era.)

Also- what was the name of the manga series with the Trigger in it? I can never remember... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
: Everything in the timeline is taken directly from one or both of the ones cited as references at the bottom of the page (when they had two differently expanded versions of the same historical point, we merged them, but otherwise it's pretty much word-for-word). These essentially are the translations of them, as we didn't add anything of our own in. If you're looking for what info came from which timeline, it's primarily from the longer one in the new book collection, but the Autorooper X Atari one included the expanded G1 episode info and a few additional story points about Binaltech, Robot Masters and of course Kiss Players.

: Not sure on the manga series title, though. I'll have to check and get back to you on that. --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 12:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::So essentially- this ''is'' a translated (and merged) timeline. Fair enough. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==To revise or not to revise?==

So here's the question. Some people (myself included) have been fixing the odd typo, grammatical error and link in here. That's fine. But other people have actually been changing or adding to the event listings (I've had to revert a couple that altered what the original material stated). Since what we originally put in here was a literal translation of official material, I'm not sure what the wiki's stance is on further updating it, even with confirmed, non-POV references. What's the word, gang? --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 12:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:I'd stick to what the timeline says. Maybe create a separate article for specifically the Kiss Players timeline and another article for this, plus additions? [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 17:47, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Since this article is, to some degree, acting as a Primary Reference... IMO, ''let'' people revise it and add more stuff to it where warranted. But take a 'virgin' of the timeline and stick it on a sandbox page under this, and put a link to it on this page. "Here is ''just'' the two timelines translated and merged, for reference." -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:Since Swift is familiar with the edits (and I am not) I nominate him to track down an uncorrupted-by-outside-sources version of the article and backup its contents [[Generation 1 cartoon timeline (Japan)/src|here]]. Anyone else may do so if they beat him to it, of course. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:10, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::I'm still not entirely positive that this is the right route to take, but done. It's actually just a cut and paste of the current article - as far as I can tell, the very few inappropriate changes have been removed. However, I'm not positive that we shouldn't just lock off the original instead. Wiki gurus? --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 00:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Neither am I, but if consensus decides against it in the future it's a quick delete-job, and this opens the option. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:I agree with Interrobang. I think that this article should not be altered beyond its original parameters, and would go so far as to suggest locking it from edits completely once all typos have been removed. Can we do that, Skyblitz? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 03:13, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::It's possible; I'll do it if that's the consensus, certainly. I feel it's also worth pointing out that once it's protected, Walky and I will still be able to make edits-- so if there's anything that does need to be changed, it can be brought up here for one of the two to make said edit. Now, if that's necessary, I don't know; I don't feel very strongly on the matter. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 16:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Before we even consider that, the article still needs to indicate the original sources/fiction for all of the facts. Japanese fiction is not my forte, so there's a lot of blanks in that area. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 17:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==Some names==
Uh, I am not sure about this, but I think maybe we should use the original name for the characters in "Car Robot / RID" franchise to avoid getting confused '''SINCE''' ''CR'' is included in JP G1 continuity rather than a single continuity. I suggest ussing "((xxx (RID)|JP name))" instead of just "((xxx (RID)))", like "Optimus Prime (RID)|Fire Convoy", "Ultra Magnus (RID)|God Magnus", and "Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus". (especially Brave Maximus, because I really get confuse few times. ''Man'', I ''really'' hate using ''Classic'' characters' names for ''CR'' guys.) --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 15:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:The fact that Japan is silly enough to make Optimus Prime a separate, unrelated Convoy named Fire Convoy in ''japan'' does not affect our timeline. In RiD Episode 3 the humans recognize Optimus Prime- they don't recognize "Hey, that unrelated transformer who we've never seen before!"
:(I find it surreally pleasing to find that RiD, RM, the weird Manga, and KP have all been integrated into one continuity now. Now ''all'' the stuff that clashes worst with G1 is it's own sub-continuity, which is just surreally crazy. I love it.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

== Needs More Citation! ==

Just reading through this for the first time and there's some bits here at the begining that I think REALLY needs some more explication. Specifically:

'' Oracle reaches a desolate planet in the center of the galaxy and changes it into a verdant world.''

There's no citation in this line at all. I know it's something never seen or hinted at in the original cartoon. Without a source reference it REALLY seems like someone fanficing up a connection with Beast Machines. Can we give this idea an actual Japanese source?

''Oracle senses that in the far future, Primacron will create Tornadron, which can absorb all energy. Oracle summons Grimlock and other beast Transformers from the future to tell them how to destroy the threat.[1]''

This is referenced to "Call of the Primitives", but there is nothing in the English version of that episode at least that hints at any time travel. If the Japanese have decided in some secondary material that there WAS time travel going on there then I think we need a ('''Note:''') to that affect and source.

''The Quintessons immigrate to Oracle's green planet. They obtain Oracle's shell, the Matrix. Oracle, who has the ability to give robots life, is turned into the ultra computer Vector Sigma. His safety key has the power to make organic life into machines, and is used by the Quintessons to transform his world into the machine planet Cybertron.[2]''

This is source referenced to "Key to V.S. 1&2" and "FFoD" but neither of those suggest ANYTHING like what this says. Again, this is all smoshing in Beast Machines ideas and without any actual source reference REALLY, REALLY sounds like fanfic.

I think this is really important stuff to get fixed (or removed) if we want this article to stand up as truthful. Anyone have the refs to support it?
--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

:Zac, did you miss the fact that this page is a direct translation of an official Japanese-published timeline? It's not something a fan knocked together. That said, I'd be willing to wager that all this time travel stuff about Oracle, Vector Sigma and the origin of Cybertron was probably cooked up for the timeline itself, personally, rather than having been established in any previous media. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:02, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, I'd bet the same. The CotP time travel especially smacks to me of needing to explain how Primacron's Assistant could both be Vector Sigma and give the message about Tornadron to the "Primatives" - the timeline's writer(s) must have decided it was easiest for him to just send a message from the past before he became VS. --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 12:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Yeah, I kinda missed that. Or at least I was imagining Japanese timeline as somthing that just gave events in the fiction dates in relation to each other, rather than went into detail explicating things and adding new stuff to this extent. I figured the dates were from the timeline and the explications ours, my fault. :P So all the explications, explanations, and just plain new stuff here all are actually in the timelines, huh. Ok, that's cool. A note as to how the timelines DO invent new stuff and one on the retcon nature of the CoTP time travel bit wouldn't be a bad thing then. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:56, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
::::Yep, it's pretty much a word for word translation and merging of the two published timelines, which only conflicted on one point, mentioned in the article text. Only the citations and occasional clarifying note have been added. --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 16:05, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

==Existence of this article==
This information is ''awesome'' and I am super excited that Quez and Swift prepared it for us. However, I'm not sure that a wiki is the appropriate place for -- as Derik rightly calls it -- primary information. If it stays on the wiki, it should definitely be protected as discussed above, but I think it would be more appropriate for the translated timeline to be hosted elsewhere, someplace "incorruptable", with this article serving as more of a summary/description of the timeline instead of reproducing it in its entirety. The Swifts could probably work it into their Kiss-Kiss site pretty easily, since both timelines come from KP sources, but there are plenty of other places we could stick it instead.

Regarding the citations... Since it merges two different source documents, I'd personally like to see a slightly more meticulous citation scheme. Every entry should probably state which timeline it is culled from (or that it combines items from both), in addition to the already-there cites to stories that the timelines themselves refer to.

--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
:<nowiki>*bolds the link in the messagebox to draw Steve-o's attention to it.*</nowiki> -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:07, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

::Yeah, uh... I already saw that. I still sort of feel like the wiki should not be hosting "primary sources", but should instead report on them. We can just as easily link to your ATT post of the timeline's contents instead of putting it in a subpage. And that doesn't address my feeling that the article should report on / comment on / summarize the timeline instead of reproducing it in its entirety. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

::Hello? There were two new edits today [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Generation_1_cartoon_timeline_%28Japan%29&diff=107964&oldid=106775] [http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Generation_1_cartoon_timeline_%28Japan%29&diff=107966&oldid=107964] that seem to have changed names of things, but I assume that the names Swift had there were carefully chosen to be as correct as possible. Do the edits need to be reverted? I have no idea. This is going to happen constantly as long as the material is posted like this, making the article itself untrustworthy. At the very least, even if the additions are correct, we are misrepresenting the source material by claiming it mentions these things when it doesn't. I reiterate my previous statement that the primary material should not be hosted, at all, on the wiki, and that the article should summarize/discuss the timeline which can be read elsewhere. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

:::We're going to be gone for the next 2 1/2 weeks, so we really have to leave this up to folks more knowledgeable in the ways of wikidom than ourselves. At the time, it seemed like something that belonged here; if that's not the case, then you folks are going to have to make that call. As for the changes Steve-o mentioned, the first one seems to extrapolate more than the original Japanese stated (and it looks like it's already been fixed), but the second is a reasonable alternate translation, and I assume Spengler changed it because of some specific reference. --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 22:36, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

== Logos Prime ==

I take issue with the name, frankly. He's Logos Convoy on a UT world. Most Convoys in Cybertron aren't Primes, so i think this guy's name should be changes back to Logos Convoy. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:31, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
: His name is Logos Prime in Japanese, same as Vector Prime isn't Vector Convoy. There's no character anywhere named "Logos Convoy" (that we know of). --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 23:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

== Additions or not? ==

Er- this is a 'straight translation' of the Japanese timeline, so no one can add anything? ...we've been adding things for ages, that's why there's that little 'box' at the top of the issue linking to an unadulterated copy. AFAIK this is the 'with all additions' article.

(Mind, I agree that Binaltech should be only a small note linking to it's own timeline-- it's a closed timeloop.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

:We have not be "adding things for ages". The additions consist almost entirely of ''references''. Essentially nothing else has been altered. This is a decent time, though, to renew my statement that this content should either be locked from all editing or simply ''summarized'' and discussed, with an external link to the copy on Google Groups or something. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 00:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

== Page protected ==
This article has seen a lot of iffy activity recently, so I have protected it temporarily until a consensus on what to do with it can be reached. I reverted to a state where the only changes since Swift's last attention to it have been the addition of references and an anonymous users' reorganization, to split out the divergent/dead-end Binaltech timeline for easier reading. I am repeating myself endlessly it seems, but here are my thoughts about this page:
#The wiki should not host primary information in the first place. The most sensible place for this timeline is Swift and Quez's Kiss Kiss website, but I would be happy to host it myself simply to settle things.
#If we insist on having the actual timeline here instead of an article *about* it, the page needs to be protected and monitored very closely.
#Changes to the content are obviously not acceptable if we are going to claim it is an official timeline. Changes to the presentation (references, organization) are acceptable. Therefore, having ''two'' copies of the timeline on our site, one which has been enhanced and one which is untouched, is silly. Improvements in presentation might as well be enacted.
I would really appreciate it if other editors would comment on this so it's not just me, Chris, Derik, and some random anonymous person who won't listen to what anybody says to him.
--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 23:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well, er. The impression I got was that this page was essentially the same as other timeline articles, only that most of its content uses an official timeline as a basis. We can add more events as the Japanese pull more stuff out of their ass and we're not claiming that this timeline is official (or shouldn't claim it is). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I would be inclined to agree with the above point that "the wiki should not host primary information." If this timeline is intended as just a straight translation of official material, rather than an article written in our own words ''about'' official material, then that doesn't quite seem to fit in here. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:00, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
::I agree with Steve-o, especially the 3rd. --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 03:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

== 2007 Movie ==

So what happened to that Japanese timeline that claimed the Michael Bay movie was part of the Japanese G1-verse?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 10:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
: We can omit it because the website puts it just to represent what happens in the real world. --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 03:12, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

== Expanding ==

Would anybody mind if I expanded this timeline? As is, it seems substandard compared to other timelines like [[Marvel Comics timeline]] and [[Movie timeline]]. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 18:31, 6 May 2013 (EDT)

== First two time entries ==

Are these accurate? I mean, 15 billion for the big bang, sure, but 12 billion for Primacron, Unicron and Quintessons? Is that what they really said or was it supposed to be 12 million instead? 12 Billion and then the next point is 11 million... what the hell went down for all those billions of years inbetween? [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] ([[User talk:Kayb|talk]]) 00:07, 10 November 2014 (EST)

Talk:Japanese Generation 1 cartoon timeline

2014-11-10T03:58:04Z

Kayb: /* First two time entries */ new section

Talk:Make Tracks

2014-06-28T07:32:03Z

Kayb: /* Drones */

==Incidentals==
Punk 1 (pink hair)

Punk 2 (mohawk)

Winston (stolen car fence)

Detective

Larry (bearded bald guy, voiced by John Stephenson; "Thief" in cast list and dialogue script, Larry in dialogue) - "All right... hold it!" and "Outta the car! Now!"

Buddy (hat and striped shirt, voiced by Casey Kasem; named in cast list and dialogue script) - "The Geddis Brothers'll pay primo for that baby!" and "Larry, there's nobody driving that car!"

Phil Geddis (thin guy, blue suit and dark beard, voiced by Chris Latta; named in cast list and dialogue script) - "You promised us a car by midnight!"

Jim Geddis (fat guy, brown suit and grey beard; named in cast list and dialogue script) - "It is now one minute AFTER midnight!"

Wow, like five named characters that can be done just from the first eight minutes of this episode. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 02:30, 4 December 2009 (EST)

== Drones ==

Does anyone else find it odd that we don't have an article for the Decepticon car drones in this episode? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:51, 7 July 2013 (EDT)
:Is there a designation or term for them in the script? Otherwise maybe "Stolen car drone" would be suitable. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:02, 7 July 2013 (EDT)
::I was looking for an entry of these drones, I take it one doesn't exist yet then? Or is called something else? I don't see one anything listed in the [[Drone]] page. -- [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] ([[User talk:Kayb|talk]]) 03:32, 28 June 2014 (EDT)

File:Eletrix-Jipe.jpg

2014-03-29T12:45:13Z

Kayb: Package card for the Eletrix Jipe toy. ~~~~

Package card for the Eletrix Jipe toy. [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] ([[User talk:Kayb|talk]]) 08:45, 29 March 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Diver (BW)

2013-10-31T11:39:47Z

Kayb: /* toys */

what suffix are we usign for characters? BWII or BW2? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

"BWII" since the title was written with the roman numerals. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 03:38, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

== toys ==

Wasn't there a TVMagazine recolor of this guy in cream and red? I may even have a crummy picture/scan on an old old old backup disk somewhere [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 05:48, 7 September 2010 (EDT)
: This be the one. Does anyone know anything about this magazine scan? [[image:BWII-recolors.GIF]] [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 07:39, 31 October 2013 (EDT)

File:BWII-recolors.GIF

2013-10-31T11:36:15Z

Kayb: Source unknown, likely a Japanese Magazine.

Source unknown, likely a Japanese Magazine.

File talk:MTMTE Full-barrel.jpg

2013-08-03T00:05:33Z

Kayb:

I wanna say this is by Nick Roche[[User:Mojotron|Mojotron]] 20:29, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
:I don't think Nick Roche ever worked for Dreamwave, did he? He not listed among the artists on that issue, at any rate. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:31, 26 April 2012 (EDT)
::Looks more like a Mark Brooks piece to me. [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 20:05, 2 August 2013 (EDT)

Talk:Stripes

2012-04-21T11:54:49Z

Kayb: New page: Do Stripes and Nightstalker have a 'Function'? Or even a tech spec? ~~~~

Do Stripes and Nightstalker have a 'Function'? Or even a tech spec? [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 07:54, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Steelgrave

2010-09-11T11:25:14Z

Kayb:

Did this guy survive the outcome of this particular comic? [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 02:52, 11 September 2010 (EDT)
:The Razor's Edge is a text story, not a comic. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 05:27, 11 September 2010 (EDT)
::Ah ok. Well even so, did Steelgrave survive?[[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 07:25, 11 September 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Steelgrave

2010-09-11T06:52:52Z

Kayb: New page: Did this guy survive the outcome of this particular comic? ~~~~

Did this guy survive the outcome of this particular comic? [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 02:52, 11 September 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Diver (BW)

2010-09-07T09:48:01Z

Kayb: /* toys */ new section

Talk:Radio AM Robot

2010-06-26T01:57:46Z

Kayb:

I may be wrong, but in addition to Megatron and Blaster, doesn't Radio AM Robot take some design cuers from Omega Supreme? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

:I have a photo on my harddrive that shows an angle of the rear of the box if anyone thinks it might be useful at all [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 07:02, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
::What does it show? We could use any images of the alternate mode, pictures of the other released color scheme or any information on Comando Toys. I guess the best thing to do is upload it and then decide whether we need it or not. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:35, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
:::[[Image:RadioAMRobot-Backofbox.jpg|thumb|right]]I've uploaded it. Nothing terribly special as you can see, which is why I figured I'd ask first. I don't have any pics of the alt mode though. I've never seen a pic of the alt mode outside of TFU.info, but I don't think we use their images, right? [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 21:57, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

File:RadioAMRobot-Backofbox.jpg

2010-06-26T01:51:14Z

Kayb: Radio AM Robot, rear side of packaging. Unknown source.

Radio AM Robot, rear side of packaging. Unknown source.

Talk:Radio AM Robot

2010-06-25T11:05:27Z

Kayb:

Talk:Radio AM Robot

2010-06-25T11:02:30Z

Kayb:

Dead End (G1)

2010-06-19T10:12:16Z

Kayb: /* Generation 2 */

{{picsneeded|appearances in comics and such}}
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{{disambig3|Dead End}}
:''Dead End is a [[Decepticon]] [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:MTMTEDeadEnd.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Life! Don't talk to me about life.]]
'''Dead End''' knows that his having an entry in [[Main Page|some database somewhere]] hardly matters. The page will be vandalized. The computers will eventually fail. The data will be lost. The [[Human|species that made it]] will go extinct. Their planet will become barren. The [[sun]] will die out. All suns will die out. The universe will implode again, or expand into nothingness, or be eaten by [[Unicron|a giant evil space-god]]. So what's the point?

Despite this deep knowledge of the dark, inevitable pointlessness of existence, he spends an inordinate amount of time polishing and primping himself. This is something the other Decepticons are sure to tease him about whenever they get the chance, which only depresses him more. If you can actually motivate him to fight, he's a fearless warrior and actually cheers up a little, since trying to save his own life can momentarily distract him from how ultimately brief and pointless it is; the hard trick is getting him motivated in the first place, since in the end we're all doomed. ''Sigh.''

Dead End combines with his fellow Stunticons to form [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], though he doesn't know why he bothers.

{{quote|Face it: we're doomed.|Dead End at any given minute|"[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1]]"}}

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Impasse'''
:''Italian name'': '''Cobra'''

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Phillip Clarke]] (English), [[Masashi Ebara]] (Japanese)

[[Image:KeytoVectorSigmaPt1 bankrobbers DeadEnd.jpg|left|200px|thumb|'Con Day Afternoon]]
Dead End, along with the other Stunticons, was given [[Spark|life]] by Vector Sigma in an attempt by [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] to form a ground based unit. Seeing little choice in the matter, Dead End decided to do what Megatron said. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} The Decepticons returned to [[Earth]] with the newly awakened Stunticons who began wreaking havoc and damaging the Autobots' good name by attacking the US military base containing the experimental rocket fuel. Eventually, the Autobots returned with the newly built [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] whose combined form [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] defeated the Stunticon combiner Menasor. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

[[Image:TransEuropeExpress DeadEnd carjack.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"The Heat Death of the universe is coming, I tell you! COMING!"]]
Despite this defeat, the Stunticons were the key component in Megatron's elaborate scheme to hold a [[Europa 2000|fake charity race]] from Paris to Istanbul so he could steal US driver [[Auggie Cahnay (G1)|Auggie Cahnay]]'s car which would be melted down to house the the powerful [[Pearl of Bahoudin]]. Megatron ordered the Stunticons to eliminate the Autobots protecting Cahnay. While his fellow Stunticons surrounded the brothers [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], Dead End leapt ahead of the racers and transformed, blasting the boxed-in Autobots off the road. They disabled several more racers, but when Dead End set a trap for [[Bluestreak]], the wily gunner managed to escape his attackers. Together, Auggie Cahnay, [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] and Bluestreak defeated Menasor and destroyed the Pearl of Bahoudin. {{storylink|Trans-Europe Express}}

When Megatron was infected with [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] after a trip to the lost Autobot colony of [[Antilla]], the Stunticons were assigned to capture the Autobot scientist [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], who had developed the powerful anti-corrosion [[Corrostop]]. After Megatron cured himself and infected the Autobots with the Cosmic Rust, Menasor attacked the Statue of Liberty in [[New York City]] with the ancient [[Lightning Bug]] heat ray, intent on stopping the Autobots from matter-duplicating more Corrostop from the layer they sprayed on the statue. Superion defeated Menasor and destroyed the Lightning Bug. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}

Caught up in a demolition derby, the Stunticons missed most of the "civil war" between the Decepticons and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]. They arrived at the battle site just as Starscream was declaring victory over Megatron. Dead End didn't particularly care either way, until [[Motormaster]] pointed out that Starscream was insufferable enough already without being in charge, and Dead End quickly conceded that point. The Stunticons formed Menasor and, one Batman *POW* later, [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] was in pieces. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}

On another occasion, Megatron instructed the Stunticons to bring him a series of scientific components for his latest Unbeatable Super Weapon. Dead End and [[Drag Strip]] were assigned to acquire an experimental generator from the U.S. military. The retrieval was successful, but they encountered the Autobots [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] and [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] on the drive to their rendezvous with Megatron. Dead End was disabled by a blast of Tracks' black beam gun, followed by Warpath putting his fist through the Stunticon's roof. Disabled and collected as prisoners of war, the Stunticons were brought back to the Ark and held in captivity while [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and a strike team of Autobots used camouflage paint to mimic the Stunticons and infiltrate Megatron's camp. Special operations agent [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], a cheerful and easy-going robot, assumed Dead End's appearance, which undoubtedly made Dead End feel even worse. The real Stunticons managed to break free, however, and confronted their dopplegangers as Menasor. Ultimately, the Super Weapon was destroyed, and the Decepticons were forced into a retreat. {{storylink|Masquerade}}

[[Image:FFoD3 DeadEnd eating.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Only Swindle would be cagey enough to choose a nihilist as his official taste tester.]]
After the Decepticons were driven off Cybertron in the aftermath of [[Unicron]]'s attack, they fled to [[Chaar]]. Suffering constant energon shortages, they were reduced to fighting among themselves. The Stunticons stuck together, but things were dire. So dire, in fact, that the Decepticons offered up their energon when it was learned that [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] was alive. Dead End warned that they were doomed if they gave up their energon, but [[Wildrider]] countered that if they didn't, they were doomed anyway. Either way, they were doomed. Oh, for God's sake... {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}} When the [[Quintesson|Quintessons]] arrived on Chaar, the other Decepticons cowered in fear. Dead End, however, had had enough. If he was going to die, he would just get it over with. He asked the Quintessons to just make it quick, but they offered energon instead. He deferred to [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]]'s negotiating skills, and when Swindle said to test some of the energon, he agreed. What the [[Pit|heck]], poison would probably be quicker than fuel exhaustion. Fortunately, the energon was untainted, and Dead End agreed to help the Quintessons destroy the Autobots on [[Goo]]. Might as well take a few Autobots with them before they go offline. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}} When they arrived, Galvatron showed up and fired upon the "traitors". Dead End could care less: whether from in front or behind, death was death. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}} After Galvatron seized control of the Decepticons and struck up an alliance with the Quintessons, the Stunticons were part of the Decepticon team attacking the Autobots on Earth. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}

[[Image:BurdenHardesttoBear Stunticons Matrix.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The Matrix is of no use to someone with 24 darkest hours a day.]]
Dead End and the Stunticons fought alongside Galvatron during a scheme to steal [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'s transforming cog, leaving him vulnerable to [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]. When [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] and [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]] infiltrated Trypticon to steal ''his'' transforming cog, the Stunticons were soundly defeated by the two Autobots. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}} Later, after a series of assaults on Japan, Dead End and Wildrider were left behind on Earth to watch for Autobot activity while the others returned to Chaar. Seeing Rodimus Prime driving on a secluded stretch of highway, the two Stunticons went after him, and eventually knocked the Autobot leader off the side of a cliff. This jarred loose the [[Matrix of Leadership]] from Rodimus' chest cavity, and so Dead End and Wildrider took their prize back to Galvatron. {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}}

A short while later, the Stunticons were part of a task force led by Galvatron to stop Rodimus Prime from recovering the body of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] from [[Mark Morgan|two]] [[Gregory Swofford|humans]]. Upon arrival, however, they were met with several [[Hate Plague]]-infected Autobots, and before Dead End could react to the situation, he was tackled and infected by [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}

===Japanese cartoon continuity===
{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in this continuity as detailed above, except the events of 2006 are pushed back to 2010. Japanese continuity inserts several new stories into the resultant gaps in the timeline.}}

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic====
Dead End and the Stunticons decided to have a little fun and tear up a baseball stadium in Japan. Luckily, the Autobots' plucky young ally [[Kenji]] was present to radio for assistance. All the combiner teams assembled, and it was Menasor and Bruticus against Superion and Defensor! Defensor was forced to break apart by the combined Decepticon attack, but Superion and Kenji got the idea to shoot out the Decepticons' legs. [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] and [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] took advantage of the empty combiner ports and took over as Menasor's legs, launching him into the ocean. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5}}

While posing as Autobots, Dead End, [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] and the Stunticons rampaged through the city streets, smearing the good name of their adversaries. Later, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] posed as humans to rally people against the Autobots, and Motormaster's brigade staged an attack on the rally to drive the point home. The Autobot fire engines [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] arrived, however, and used their water hoses to wash off the Decepticons' fake insignia. Enraged, Motormaster planned to combine into Menasor...only to see Dead End and the others were already retreating into the distance. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7}}

====''Scramble City'' cartoon====

Dead End and the Stunticons were summoned by Megatron to put an end to the [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]] project, and succeed where [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] had failed. Their first strike was impressive, holding back Optimus Prime and a cadre of Autobots and shooting the Aerialbots out of the skies. When the Aerialbots formed Superion, Dead End and his teammates followed suit and merged into Menasor. {{storylink|Scramble City}}

====''Story of Binaltech''====

In the early 21st century, the Decepticons gained a temporary advantage by unleashing the [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] virus on the Autobots. Their hated foes turned defeat into victory, however, by creating the revolutionary [[Binaltech|Binaltech Project]] to transfer the sparks of the infected Autobots into powerful new forms. {{storylink|Story of Binaltech, Chapter 1}} In order to gain Binaltech power for themselves, the Decepticons and their human allies the [[Concurrence]] used mind control technology to infiltrate the Binaltech Project, implanting Decepticons into bodies meant for Autobots. Thanks to [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] and the Concurrence, Dead End became the first Decepticon Binaltech warrior, stealing a new frame meant for the injured Autobot [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. {{storylink|Arise! Evil Binaltechs}}

====''The Great Transformer War'' comic====

Galvatron kidnapped [[Doctor Dalton]] of [[Eran]] to upgrade the might of his combiner warriors. When the Autobot combiners arrived to save Dalton, Dead End and his teammates were deployed at high speeds from Motormaster's launcher mode. They met Superion in mid-air, and the force of their deployment enabled the combiner teams to tear him apart. The Stunticons then merged into Menasor to move in for the kill. They were ultimately outwitted by the Autobots, however, who rescued Dalton and safely returned to Metroplex. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====

Dead End and the Stunticons participated in Galvatron's siege on Cybertron. They managed to gain the high ground against the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s and [[Throttlebot]]s, and rained laser fire down on their opponents. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} Dead End and his team formed Menasor to fight their Autobot counterparts, but were steamrolled by the might and firepower of the [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Battleship Maximus]]. Transporting back to Earth, they attempted to interfere with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]'s quest for the Matrix. Dead End and the Stunticons were confronted by the Aerialbots in the desert, but the battle of their combiner forms eventually led them to the Arctic. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}}

When [[Vector Sigma]] began perfecting the new super-metal [[Cybertonuron]] on Cybertron, Galvatron ordered another all-out attack on the planet to seize the metal for the Decepticons before the Autobots could make use of it. Dead End and the Stunticons journeyed to Cybertron with the strike force, and confronted their old enemies, the Aerialbots. The Aerialbots got the drop on Dead End's group by forming Superion and lashing out before the Stunticons could form Menasor as well. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Dead End and the Stunticons were still in a firefight sometime later, as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] passed by looking for [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] and the Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}} In [[San Francisco]], Dead End and the Stunticons assisted Bruticus in using a carnivorous plant to distract the Autobots from [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s plans on [[Zarak (planet)|Zarak]]. They fought against the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s and [[Computron (G1)|Computron]]. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}}

Sometime later, Dead End and the Stunticons gathered in the desert as their Ninja Commander [[Sixshot]] began issuing orders. They assembled as Menasor, and took part in the escalating Decepticon war effort as five separate Autobot outposts were attacked simultaneously at Sixshot's command. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} Dead End was also among the Decepticons who assembled to welcome Scorponok as their new Emperor of Terror following Galvatron's fall. {{storylink|I Risk My Life for Earth}}

====''Zone'' OVA, manga and story pages====

Seeking to create a [[Decepticon Zone]] to counter the [[Micro|Autobot Zone]], [[Emperor of Destruction|Decepticon Emperor]] [[Violen Jiger]] gathered together the Nine Great Demon Generals, upgrading them with powerful new armor and weaponry, then sent them forth to conquer planets. Dead End was among those summoned, but only as a part of Menasor. {{storylink|Zone (story page)|Zone Part 1}} {{storylink|Zone (manga)|Transformers: Zone}} {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
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''When [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] began experiencing strange dreams about new Transformers, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] joined him in his dreamscape, and together the two observed a vision brought on by Buster's brief connection to the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]]. Dead End and his fellow Stunticons were seen transforming into Menasor, and battling the Autobots alongside [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. Unfortunately, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] intercepted the signals for Prime and Buster's shared dream, giving the Decepticons just as much knowledge about these future [[Special Teams]] as the Autobots. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}''

The [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] known as [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] managed to infiltrate the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and plant one of his shells inside Optimus Prime. Thanks to this espionage, [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and Soundwave were able to harness the digital energy of the Creation Matrix when Prime unleashed it. Thus, as the Autobots were bringing life to the new [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]]s Special Team, so too were the Decepticons bringing their new Stunticons on-line. Megatron wasted no time in sending his newly-minted minions out to ruin the Autobots' good name. Dead End and his teammates started an ad hoc demolition derby on a highway, cornering the Autobot [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] while pretending to defend him against the human robot-hunters, [[Circuit Breaker]] and [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. Dead End didn't see much point in even acknowledging the fleshlings, but he was pushed into combat by his leader, [[Motormaster]]. After a combination battle with the Aerialbots, the Stunticons returned to Megatron, their mission to smear the Autobots' reputation with the humans complete. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}

Megatron became more and more unstable over time, especially after Optimus Prime died, but not by his own hands. While the Decepticons traveled convoy to a [[Space bridge]] nexus in the Florida Keys, Megatron rode in gun mode inside of Dead End. He stopped long enough to totally demolish a passing truck that resembled Optimus Prime. Dead End pointed out Megatron's mistake, but his great leader seemed satisfied by the thought that if the truck HAD been Prime, then Prime would certainly be dead now. Even though he already was. Even Dead End's obsession with death wasn't enough to understand Megatron in this state. Once they reached the rendezvous point, Dead End rather eagerly left with [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] while Megatron waited behind for an ambush by Optimus Prime that he was sure was coming. Megatron ended up blowing himself up shortly thereafter, and certainly Dead End and the other Decepticons were none too broken up by that turn of events. {{storylink|Gone but Not Forgotten!}}

With Megatron gone, Dead End and the Stunticons began working for [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], at a tropical island base which was actually a disguised space cruiser. {{storylink|The Desert Island of Space!}} They staged a daring attack against the Autobots on the moon, but were ultimately driven off by [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

=====Earthforce=====
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''Back in action on Earth, Dead End and his Stunticon partner Drag Strip began working for a faction of Decepticons led by Megatron. Megatron had created an ozone-warping rocket, designed to trap heat in the atmosphere which could be tapped for a new source of energy, even though it would virtually destroy all life on Earth. Their plan was interrupted by two Autobots, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]. {{storylink|Starting Over!}} While Wheeljack kept the Stunticons busy, Prowl leapt onto the rocket itself, his weight knocking it off course and causing it to crash before it reached the apex point in the atmosphere it was meant to travel to. Dead End and Drag Strip raced to the crashsite, hoping to retrieve the atmospheric poisons Megatron had loaded it with. At the fallen rocket, however, they ran into [[Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]], who were interested in securing the equipment for their commander, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. The four Decepticons began to tussle, little realizing Prowl had already snuck away and neutralized the cannisters. How droll. {{storylink|Life in the Slow Lane}}''

''At the [[Enclave]], Dead End was seen talking to [[Octane]] early on. Later, after the party descended into violence, he was seen punching out [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] while fighting back-to-back with [[Tantrum]], both of them little realizing they were supposed to be on opposite sides. Probably. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}} During the attack on Autobot Earthbase, Dead End and Breakdown joined the [[Battlecharger|Battlechargers]] in racing in through the wall of laser fire, trying to reach the base and the Autobot soldiers inside defending it. None of them made it, though, so it was all rather pointless in the end. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}} When the Decepticons needed to kidnap the Autobots' human ally, [[Irwin Spoon]], Dead End and the Stunticons ran interference for Motormaster so that he could get away with the human stored inside his cab. After Breakdown took himself out of action, though, only Dead End and Drag Strip were left to stop [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] from catching up with their leader. The two Stunticons raced up onto the rear bumpers of their foes, only to be caught off guard when the Autobots suddenly broke away, sending the Decepticon cars hurtling into the back wheels of their own boss, Motormaster, knocking all of them off the road. {{storylink|End of the Road! (UK)|End of the Road!}}''

{{note|Drag Strip and Dead End are mistakenly named as Shockwave's troops in "[[Life in the Slow Lane]]", just as the Battlechargers are mistakenly identified as working for Megatron.}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''Dead End and the Stunticons attacked [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] on the road in 2003, making an attempt to steal the plans for the upcoming [[Autobot City]]. They were successful, but the plans were a set of fakes, so they ultimately didn't gain anything. An exhausting exercise in futility — bet Dead End droned on about that for days. {{storylink|Ark Duty}}''

''In 2008, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]] were compelled by [[Unicron]] to make an assassination attempt on the Decepticon leader, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. They sealed the door to the audience chamber during the attack, and so [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] summoned the Stunticons as Menasor to break through the door. They eventually did so, and Breakdown and Dead End were about to execute the Decepticon traitors when Death's Head returned with news of Shockwave's demise. Using a series of explosives built into his hover platform as an incentive, the bounty hunter forced Soundwave and the other Decepticons to submit to their leadership. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}''

====Generation 2====
After [[Skullgrin]] was killed on a survey mission by the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]], Dead End was seen among the Decepticons [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] was pumping up into a killing fury. (There was, however, a speech bubble near Dead End's head calling for "Death to the pretenders!" Maybe he meant the G2 Decepticons, or maybe he just didn't like Skullgrin). {{storylink|New Dawn}}
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
At one point during the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Dead End was linked with the Stunticons to become a super-combiner known as Menasor. After the [[Crisis Intervention Accord]]s, though, the Stunticons were forced to disband as a unit to prevent major devastation. To that end, Dead End and Motormaster joined Starscream's [[Predacon (War Within)|Predacons]] separate from their teammates. {{storylink|War Within: The Age of Wrath}}

At some point in Cybertron's recent history, the Stunticons were deemed psychotic and too dangerous to function in society, and as a result were placed into perpetual stasis lock inside of a prison facility. Later, in an attempt to create a diversion while he set his final plans in motion, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arranged for the release of the Stunticons. They formed into Menasor and ran amuck for awhile, until [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and began insulting them. Unable to reconcile with this, the five Stunticons began to bicker with each other over whose fault it was that they were failing, temporarily stopping Menasor and allowing Ultra Magnus to ram the combiner in the chest, forcing him to separate into his component parts and disabling the Stunticons. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}}

===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers'' comics===
Along with his Stunticon comrades, Dead End was sent into 1930's [[Chicago]] when [[Teletran 3]] went haywire. After being reformatted and locked into the shapes of old human cars, they were found and used by a gang of organized criminals for three days. The Stunticons, aside from Motormaster, were then found by a group of members from [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] and [[Cobra]], sent from the future to retrieve the Cybertronians and avoid a temporal holocaust. Dead End was awoken when Breakdown snagged the humans' [[disruption unit]]s and shared them with the others, and the Stunticons promptly attacked their saviors and their Autobot ally, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. After following them in a car chase that led halfway across Chicago, the Stunticons stumbled into Motormaster, at which point everyone was sent back to present-day Cybertron. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2}}

Some time later, Dead End and the other Stunticons joined [[Serpent O.R.]]'s new Decepticon army, and helped capture a team of Autobots and G.I. Joes that followed him to Cybertron. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3}} They later combined into Menasor for an attack on an Autobot peace ceremony. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4}}

===IDW comics continuity===
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[[Image:MegatronOrigin3 DeadEnd Wildrider.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Strangely optimistic for a pessimist.]]
Dead End was one of dozens of Cybertronians who answered the call to join Megatron in [[Kaon]]'s underground pit-fighting ring, and later participated in the first street battle against Autobot forces. He was also...unnervingly ''optimistic'' about his chances of making the team.

Seriously, it was creepy. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3}}

Soon afterwards, Megatron launched his rebellion, and Dead End fought alongside Drag Strip in the ensuing battle. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4}}

Several million years later, Dead End was among the Decepticons left behind on [[Earth]] following a failed invasion. In search of fuel, he assaulted a human gas station and guzzled its precious liquid. {{storylink|Seasons in Flight}} Along with Motormaster and Wildrider, he was then captured and deactivated by [[Skywatch]]. The three Stunticons were eventually rescued by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], who needed all the help he could get in getting off the planet. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}} With Drag Strip already onboard the team, the four Stunticons began helping construct a starship. However, the team still wanted their [[Breakdown (G1)|last member]] back, and Dead End and Motormaster claimed to know where to find him. {{storylink|Seasons in Flight}}

After Breakdown was recovered, Dead End and the others revealed that they didn't just want him back so they could be a big, happy Stunticon family—[[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] had modified the team into combiners, allowing them to merge into [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], kill the Autobots and take the ship for themselves! {{storylink|Enemies of the System}}

However, the Autobots soon figured out Menasor's weakness: his components could barely agree on anything. They focused their attacks on Dead End, which confused and angered the other components, opening Menasor up to be defeated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. The Stunticons were subsequently captured by Skywatch. {{storylink|Earthworks}}

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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1DeadEnd toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed.]]
*'''Dead End''' (1986)
**''Team ID number:'' '''S1'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-54'''
**''Accessories:'' Gun, double cannon, cannon connector

: The original Dead End toy transformed into a maroon Porsche 928. He comes with a black double-barreled laser cannon that attaches to the back of his vehicle mode.

: In robot mode, Dead End's legs transform similarly to [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]'s, flipping and inverting. He is armed with a small black laser pistol. As he was designed with the [[Scramble City]]-style combination, he can form the arm or leg to any similarly-constructed robot combination. Although the 1986 G1 Menasor toy giftset shows Dead End as Menasor's right leg, Dead End's nominal placement is as Menasor's left arm.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/DeadEnd/deadend.htm More information on Dead End at TFU.info]''
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*'''Menasor''' (Giftset, 1986)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-55'''

:Dead End was also available as part of the Menasor giftset.

===Generation 2===
*'''Dead End''' (Stunticon)
**''Team ID number:'' '''S2'''''

[[Image:G2-DeadEnd.jpg|right|thumb|'This paint job was doomed from the start.']]: For the [[Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' line]], Hasbro intended to release [[Redeco|redecoes]] of the Stunticons in 1994, with Dead End being cast primarily in red plastic, with black and blue accents. Ultimately, however, the toys never went into mass production and remained officially unreleased. Only the four limbs are known to have made it to the sample packaging stage, having turned up in very limited numbers over the years (with the exception of G2 [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], who was available at [[BotCon 1994]] in somewhat larger quantities). All the G2 Stunticons are known to catch high prices on the secondary market.<ref>[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/1531/Generation+2/Deadend.html Mirrored photos of Generation 2 Dead End in sample packaging at Transformers @ The Moon]</ref>

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===Alternators===
*'''Dead End''' (2004)
**''Alternator ID number:'' '''6'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-05'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/gun

[[Image:Alternators DeadEnd toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side.]]
: ''Alternators'' Dead End transforms into a fully-painted black Dodge Viper Competition Coupe with silver stripes, red windows and headlights.

: In robot mode he transforms similarly to ''Alternators'' [[Sideswipe (G1)|Side Swipe]], and has [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]'s head, as his tooling was originally designed as the latter Autobot. As a retool of Side Swipe, several of his parts are different, including the hood, wheels, roof, the entire rear end of the car, chest and head. He is armed with a vacuum-metalized silver gun formed out of his engine.

: The main difference between the US ''Alternators'' release of this toy and the Japanese ''Binaltech'' version is that the ''Binaltech'' version is constructed partially out of die-cast metal.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Decepticon/AltDeadEnd/deadend.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Dead End at TFU.info]''
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==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Dead_End Dead End's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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2010-06-19T10:09:47Z

Kayb:

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2010-06-19T08:58:24Z

Kayb:

==Hotspot photo==
Do you have any details about [[:Image:G2-Hotspot.jpg|this photo]] (where it comes from, who owns it ect) ? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:14, 16 June 2010 (EDT)

:I'm afraid not :( It's been on my hard drive for years and years, along with those other G2 stunticon/protectobot pics I put up. I couldn't tell you where I found them. I think I have pic of a carded g2 deadend somewhere too that i could put up as well. [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 04:58, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

First Aid (G1)

2010-06-13T11:21:24Z

Kayb: /* Generation 2 */ corrected my stupid typo.

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:''First Aid is an [[Autobot]] [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:G1 FirstAid TFUprofile.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Damn it, Jim! I'm a doctor, not a pacifist!]]
'''First Aid''' is one of the most empathic and compassionate beings you'll ever meet. He cares deeply about all living things. Heck, he even cares deeply about the "pain" of inanimate objects. A broken or malfunctioning can-opener will earn just as much sympathy and attention as a fellow Autobot. Otherwise, First Aid is a soft-spoken and sometimes overly cautious sort (especially when it comes to the well-being of a fellow Autobot). Still, all the Autobots know he will work long and hard to do his best for them and that their well-being matters to him more than anything, and those are quite comforting thoughts.

First Aid is a member of the subgroup [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] and forms the left arm of the [[combiner]] robot [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]. Maybe that arm never punches anything?

{{quote|I don't believe in fighting. I'm a medic, not a warrior.|First Aid|"[[The Ultimate Weapon]]"}}

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Ambulo'''
:''Italian name'': '''Sirena'''
:''Portuguese Name (Portugal Comic):'' '''Primeiro Socorro'''

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Michael Bell]] (English), [[Kenyū Horiuchi]] (Japanese), [[Massimo Corizza]] (Italian)

[[Image:G1 RevengeofBruticus FirstAid Streetwise help.jpg|left|170px|thumb|"Hey, get out of the road, jerk!"]]

First Aid is an avowed pacifist. When the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] attacked an inhabited city on [[Earth]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] called upon the Protectobots to evacuate the civilians caught in the crossfire. First Aid helped an injured man discovered by Streetwise. Later, as Earth's orbit was diverted to the [[Sun]] by the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], First Aid brought civilians to a meat locker that [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] and Streetwise had commandeered to help the [[human]]s cool down. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}}

First Aid, as part of Defensor, was the arm that wielded the rifle which totally blew up [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. Afterwards, he was with the Protectobots when they saved some window-washers from a burning skyscraper. Later still, First Aid and the other Protectobots were ordered to help defend [[Ark (G1)|Autobot Headquarters]] from a Decepticon attack. They merged into Defensor and activated his useless force field, which almost immediately deactivated, allowing the Decepticons to blast Defensor back into his component parts. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

[[Image:Firstaidfixesmultramagnus.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
In the year 2006, First Aid was on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] for the planet's first peace conference. He participated in a surprise birthday party for [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] along with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], Groove and [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]]. The Combaticons then attacked a nearby shuttle bay, hoping to scrap the ships which would be used to ferry delegates to the conference. First Aid happily blasted away at the Combaticons. After the battle, First Aid was tending to a serious wound Magnus suffered on his back, when he used his own body to shield Wheelie from a Decepticon attack. When attention turned to the damaged shuttle, Ultra Magnus insisted First Aid repair the ship first and deal with his injuries later. Guess he forgot First Aid was a doctor, not a mechanic! (Ol' [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] sure wouldn't have taken no lip — he would have disconnected the patient's vocal processor first.) {{storylink|Surprise Party}}

When [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] took heavy fire over the [[Junkion (planet)|Planet of Junk]], [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] brought him back to Cybertron for repairs. First Aid arrived and began patching up the super-robot. {{storylink|The Big Broadcast of 2006 (episode)|The Big Broadcast of 2006}}

[[Image:G1 UltimateWeapon FirstAid fixingfridges.jpg|left|170px|thumb|You know things are going badly when you find yourself in Silent Hill with an air conditioner as your only companion.]]
The Autobots were asked to help the Dutch authorities deal with French rebels. First Aid wondered why the humans were always fighting amongst themselves. After dispersing the human aggressors, First Aid then helped out [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] when his comrade was shot down by [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. While the Autobots held off the loser-ish Decepticons, First Aid carried Blades back to [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] for repairs. After he finished, the Autobot medic responded to an intruder alert and confronted the Decepticon Swindle stealing Metroplex's [[transformation cog]]. Unfortunately, Swindle managed to make off with his loot because the pacifist Autobot refused to fight back. Despite [[Rodimus Prime (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s attempts to convince him that they didn't expect First Aid to compromise his beliefs, he felt he was a liability to the Autobots and left. After helping [[NUL-A|some old junker robot]] chug down some oil and repair some refrigerators, First Aid received a pep talk from [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]], which convinced him to come back to help the Autobots. While [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] and Metroplex fought it out, First Aid bravely entered the Autobot giant and re-aligned the stolen transformation cog to suit Metroplex, allowing the Autobot city to transform fully and defeat Trypticon. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}

Later in 2006, First Aid transported [[Jessica Morgan]] to County General Hospital after she was injured in a battle between the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] and the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]]. Despite his helping to restore her ability to walk, the fact that First Aid was a robot had some [[Hate Plague|negative consequences]] because [[Mark Morgan|some]] [[Gregory Swofford|people]] are jerks. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}

===Japanese cartoon continuity===
====Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers====
When the Decepticon combiners attacked a baseball stadium in Japan, the Protectobots and Aerialbots raced to the rescue. After attending to the blaze created by [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]'s destruction, First Aid and his team combined into Defensor. However, Defensor's central component was damaged battling Bruticus; with Hot Spot out of action, the Protectobots could not maintain their super-robot form. Getting an idea, the Autobots' human friend [[Kenji]] told [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] to shoot out the legs of the Decepticon super-robots. With their legs damaged, Menasor and Bruticus were left open for First Aid and the other small Protectobots to link up as their new legs, taking over the Decepticons' locomotion, sending them out to sea. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5}}

Later, the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s were paving over a natural island paradise, and the Autobots sent a rescue party to save the wildlife and their friends on the island. Due to the medical needs of the mission, First Aid replaced [[Slingshot]] with the Aerialbots to form Superion. Even linked together, First Aid and the Aerialbots were outclassed against both [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], until [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] generated a hologram of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] to distract the dino-base Decepticon, sending him over a cliff. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 6}}

====''Scramble City'' cartoon====

First Aid and the Protectobots participated in the Scramble City project under Ultra Magnus's direction, working towards the construction of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. After the Decepticons uncovered their secret building site, the Protectobots rode into battle alongside the newly completed Metroplex. First Aid and his comrades arrived and formed Defensor just in time to act as the harbinger of Metroplex and his really big gun. {{storylink|Scramble City}}

====The Great Transformer War====
In 2010, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] kidnapped the scientist [[Doctor Dalton|Dalton]] in order to upgrade his combiner warriors. First Aid and the Protectobots joined forces with the Aerialbots to rescue Dalton from inside Trypticon. Superion was heavily damaged in the first strike run, however, and Hot Spot needed time in his repair bay mode to bring the Aerialbots back to fighting strength. While Blades snuck into Trypticon alone to rescue Dalton, First Aid, Streetwise and Groove defended Hot Spot against both Menasor and Bruticus. They held out long enough for the Aerialbots to be revived. After the Aerialbots distracted the Decepticons, Blades completed his mission and the Autobots rolled out for Scramble City with Dalton in tow. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====

In 2011, Galvatron attacked Cybertron looking to take control of [[Vector Sigma]]. First Aid and the Protectobots were active in Cybertron's defense as Defensor during the assault. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} Later, First Aid's team assembled on Earth at Ultra Magnus's command. Their mission was to stop the Decepticons from interfering with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s, who were searching for the hidden location of the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. On a security sweep, the Protectobots ran across their old nemeses, the Combaticons, and went into battle. The two teams quickly assumed their combined forms as Bruticus and Defensor, as the fighting escalated. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}

When Galvatron made another strike on Cybertron, this time to steal the super-metal [[Cybertonuron]], First Aid and the Protectobots assembled before the [[Space Bridge]] on Earth to be transported into battle. Seeking out the Combaticons on the battlefield, the Protectobots soon formed Defensor and fought once more with Bruticus. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Defensor and Bruticus's battle continued as Defensor delivered a devastating smash to Bruticus's back. For at least part of the battle, the two teams disassembled again for man-to-man combat, {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}}

First Aid and the Protectobots were dispatched to [[Peru]] with the [[Trainbot]]s when a volcano erupted, leaving a mountainside village in dire peril. Their rescue mission was blocked by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. [[Shoki]] and the Trainbots occupied the fiends so that the Protectobots could proceed on to the village and protect the innocent lives. Nevertheless, the Protectobots failed to reach the village, as they were intercepted by the Decepticons' second wave, the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s. True to his devout pacifism, First Aid was not seen engaging in battle until the Protectobots formed Defensor. This left them grouped together and vulnerable, however, to an underhanded attack. Defensor was taken out of action by [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]'s paralysis ray, which was strong enough to force First Aid and the Protectobots apart and leave them completely immobilized. {{storylink|The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts}}

First Aid and the Protectobots were part of a strike team that flew to the [[Moon (moon)|moon]] to disrupt Scorponok's gathering of Decepticons. They immediately formed Defensor upon entering the battle. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}} When the planet [[Sandra]] sent out a distress call asking for energy, the Autobots of Earth responded. While they were loading the Trainbots full of supplies, however, Galvatron and the Decepticons arrived to take the energy for themselves. First Aid and the Protectobots fought back against the enemy, and formed Defensor to counter Devastator on the battlefield. {{storylink|SOS from Planet Sandra}}

After the death of Ultra Magnus, the Autobots were desperately trying to pick up the slack during Sixshot's campaign of destruction around the globe. First Aid and the Protectobots assembled as Defensor to go out and confront Sixshot at one of the attack sites, but they apparently didn't fare too well. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} When the Decepticons seemingly abandoned Earth, First Aid and the Protectobots assisted Spike in rebuilding the planet after the enemy's departure. On one occasion, they located Sixshot's old command base. By combining into Defensor, the Protectobots helped Raiden and Computron obliterate the base, wiping out all trace of the Decepticons' presence. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 1)}}

Following a lengthy period of inactivity, the Decepticons renewed their attacks on Earth. With Fortress still off in space, Spike Witwicky dispatched First Aid and the Protectobots to attend to the threats. In Canberra, [[Australia]], the Protectobots confronted Bruticus at one of Scorponok's new Death Towers. As Defensor, the Protectobots were beaten severely by Bruticus, and First Aid was even knocked out of the arm socket. Using Scramble Power, Defensor switched Streetwise up to his shoulder and reattached First Aid as a leg, still carrying his fireball cannon. Despite this cunning(?) trick, Defensor was defeated by Bruticus. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} As part of Defensor, First Aid participated in the Autobots final battle with Scorponok's Decepticons at the North Pole. He lent his energies to the Headmasters' [[Head Formation]] to revitalize Fortress Maximus at the critical moment. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}

===Marvel comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
First Aid and the other Protectobots were created on Earth by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and the Autobots after they stole a recording of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator's]] combiner transformation sequence and modified it ''(and after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] shared a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-induced vision of the future with the [[Special Teams]] in it) {{storylink|Second Generation!}}.''

[[Image:Firstaid-g1issue26.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Remember: Down the block, not across the street.]]

Having learned of a Decepticon plot to acquire the human-made hydrothermocline, Optimus Prime brought the Protectobots with him to Energy Futures Industries in order to guard the device. After Megatron and the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] arrived ready for a fight, the Transformers allowed themselves to be convinced of a better solution by [[Ethan Zachary]], an employee of EFI. Zachary would upload their minds into a video simulation program known as Multi-World, allowing the Transformers to do battle without damaging the hydrothermocline or the surrounding area. Inside the game world, First Aid and [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] were exploring Vineland when their path was blocked by a web of thick vines. First Aid wanted to blast through, but Streetwise thought better of it and merely lifted the vines out of their way. They were caught off-guard by the Combaticons [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] and [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]], but were then miraculously saved by the living vines they had refrained from destroying moments ago. First Aid then used his [[decrystallizer cannon]] on the Decepticons, making them brittle enough for Streetwise to shatter with a burst from his compressed air cannon.

Apparently, First Aid's pacifism doesn't extend to ''virtual'' combat. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}}

''First Aid was later displaced to [[limbo]] right before [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s eyes, in order to make room for [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]]. {{storylink|Wanted:Galvatron — Dead or Alive!}}''

First Aid later attempted to console a despondent [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after the death of Optimus Prime. Why he didn't help Ratchet try to restore Prime, we'll never know. {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}}

''While not seen on-panel being killed in the [[Underbase Saga]], he was possibly deactivated in that battle, since he was next seen in a life support capsule as Optimus briefly considered using a Matrix fragment to revive him after Ratchet's disappearance. {{storylink|The Greatest Gift of All!}}''

====Generation 2====
When Optimus Prime and Grimlock discovered the threat of the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]], they called in Autobots scattered across the galaxy, including First Aid. And, when Grimlock chose to disobey Prime's directives and make a tactical first strike against [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s ships, First Aid went with him. They were quickly found out and captured, though, leaving it to Optimus to bail them out of trouble. {{storylink|Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|Devices and Desires!}}

Sometime later, First Aid was working with a science team alongside [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]. They attempted to find out what had devastated the population of [[J'asik]], down to the cellular level. Samples taken from the bodies helped the team identify the killer, known as the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]], as an offshoot of the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Swarm (issue)|Swarm}}

===''Transformers in 3-D''===
Following [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s resurrection, First Aid and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] bugged him to come in for a full checkup, which [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] believed was just their way of saying that it was good to have the Autobot leader back. The checkup was interrupted by an alarm, which First Aid announced indicated a Decepticon attack. He took part in the effort to repel [[Sixshot]]'s forces, only for them to retreat on their own, when Prime realised it was just a diversion while Galvatron attacked the Energon plant. {{storylink|The War Against the Destructons, Chapter 1 of 3}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
[[Image:Firstaid-warwithin.jpg|right|150px|thumb|In his younger years, First Aid wore a stylish hoodie.]]
First Aid was on Cybertron with the other Protectobots when they decided to counter the threat of Devastator joining the [[Ultracon]] faction. {{storylink|Escalation (Dreamwave)|Escalation}}

Millions of years later, the Protectobots battled [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] as Defensor when the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] escaped from a penal facility... and lost, big time. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}} Defensor later aided in the Autobot insurrection. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} After the Autobots regained power, First Aid and the Protectobots searched [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s clone lab, finding [[Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] barely alive, having been attacked by [[Sunstorm (G1)|an unknown assailant]]. First Aid was seen administering medical help to the heavily damaged [[Battlecharger|Battlechargers]]. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}}
{{-}}

===IDW comics continuity===
{{spoiler|The Iron Age|June 12}}

In the early days of the war, First Aid was among the extraction team who located the damaged pair of [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] following their skirmish with the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. He performed initial repairs on both of them, bringing Tracks back online. {{storylink|Spotlight: Jazz}}

Sometime later, he was seen chatting with his comrades [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] during a victory celebration. {{storylink|The Iron Age}}

{{-}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''First Aid''' (Protectobot, 1986, 1991)
** ''Team ID number'': '''P4'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-75'''
** ''Accessories:'' "[[Photon pistol]]", "[[Decrystallizer cannon|Dual-Barrelled Decrystallizer Cannon]]" with attachment piece

: First Aid transforms into a Toyota Town Ace/Lite Ace ambulance. Due to the requirements of transformation, there are some significant compromises in the appearance of the vehicle, such as the rather visible hinge joints for the front end and the big gap in the back of the ambulance to facilitate his knee joint. There is a 5mm peg hole at the back to attach his large "Decrystallizer Cannon" to this mode.

:As a [[Scramble City]] robot, First Aid can form the limb of any super robot combination, though his nominal place is as the left arm of Defensor.

: During the initial 1986 run, there were two variants; initial runs had a [[die-cast]] metal chest, while later releases used plastic. When the toy was reissued in the European-[[exclusive]] [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] line, the [[rubsign]] was removed, but the rubsign indentation remained.

: This mold was also used to make [[Safety]] from the [[Guard City]] giftset in the [[Operation Combination (toyline)|''Operation Combination'' toyline]].

===Generation 2===
*'''First Aid'''
[[Image:G2-FirstAid.jpg|right|thumb|They didn't change me much.]]
: The Protectobots were to be released as part of the second wave of combiners in ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''. However, this entire wave was ultimately canceled for unknown reasons. First Aid was to be off-white with seafoam-green robot chest, gold robot parts and a different rescue/ambulance deco. Vanishingly few samples—less than a dozen—of this item made their way outside [[Hasbro]], including some on-card samples, which give him the unit number "P2".
{{canceledtoy}}
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==Trivia==
* First Aid's pacifism is only demonstrated in the original cartoon- his fellow Protectobot Groove is supposed to be the pacifistic one. In his various comic appearances, First Aid seems to have no problems fighting his enemies.

* Although the Protectobots in the Marvel comics are assumed to have been built on Earth (explicitly so in the UK), his advice to [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|death]] sounds like words of experience. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}}
* In the Italian dub, First Aid speaks with a cadence resembling an ambulance siren.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/FirstAid/firstaid.htm First Aid at TFU.info]
* [http://tfarchive.com/comics/misc/universe/tfufirstaid.php First Aid's Universe bio at TFArchive.com]

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First Aid (G1)

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{{disambig2|the Scramble City ambulance from Generation 1|the Micromaster ambulance from ''Universe''|First Aid (Universe)}}
:''First Aid is an [[Autobot]] [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:G1 FirstAid TFUprofile.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Damn it, Jim! I'm a doctor, not a pacifist!]]
'''First Aid''' is one of the most empathic and compassionate beings you'll ever meet. He cares deeply about all living things. Heck, he even cares deeply about the "pain" of inanimate objects. A broken or malfunctioning can-opener will earn just as much sympathy and attention as a fellow Autobot. Otherwise, First Aid is a soft-spoken and sometimes overly cautious sort (especially when it comes to the well-being of a fellow Autobot). Still, all the Autobots know he will work long and hard to do his best for them and that their well-being matters to him more than anything, and those are quite comforting thoughts.

First Aid is a member of the subgroup [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] and forms the left arm of the [[combiner]] robot [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]. Maybe that arm never punches anything?

{{quote|I don't believe in fighting. I'm a medic, not a warrior.|First Aid|"[[The Ultimate Weapon]]"}}

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Ambulo'''
:''Italian name'': '''Sirena'''
:''Portuguese Name (Portugal Comic):'' '''Primeiro Socorro'''

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Michael Bell]] (English), [[Kenyū Horiuchi]] (Japanese), [[Massimo Corizza]] (Italian)

[[Image:G1 RevengeofBruticus FirstAid Streetwise help.jpg|left|170px|thumb|"Hey, get out of the road, jerk!"]]

First Aid is an avowed pacifist. When the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] attacked an inhabited city on [[Earth]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] called upon the Protectobots to evacuate the civilians caught in the crossfire. First Aid helped an injured man discovered by Streetwise. Later, as Earth's orbit was diverted to the [[Sun]] by the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], First Aid brought civilians to a meat locker that [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] and Streetwise had commandeered to help the [[human]]s cool down. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}}

First Aid, as part of Defensor, was the arm that wielded the rifle which totally blew up [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. Afterwards, he was with the Protectobots when they saved some window-washers from a burning skyscraper. Later still, First Aid and the other Protectobots were ordered to help defend [[Ark (G1)|Autobot Headquarters]] from a Decepticon attack. They merged into Defensor and activated his useless force field, which almost immediately deactivated, allowing the Decepticons to blast Defensor back into his component parts. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

[[Image:Firstaidfixesmultramagnus.jpg|right|200px|thumb|]]
In the year 2006, First Aid was on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] for the planet's first peace conference. He participated in a surprise birthday party for [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] along with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], Groove and [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]]. The Combaticons then attacked a nearby shuttle bay, hoping to scrap the ships which would be used to ferry delegates to the conference. First Aid happily blasted away at the Combaticons. After the battle, First Aid was tending to a serious wound Magnus suffered on his back, when he used his own body to shield Wheelie from a Decepticon attack. When attention turned to the damaged shuttle, Ultra Magnus insisted First Aid repair the ship first and deal with his injuries later. Guess he forgot First Aid was a doctor, not a mechanic! (Ol' [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] sure wouldn't have taken no lip — he would have disconnected the patient's vocal processor first.) {{storylink|Surprise Party}}

When [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] took heavy fire over the [[Junkion (planet)|Planet of Junk]], [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] brought him back to Cybertron for repairs. First Aid arrived and began patching up the super-robot. {{storylink|The Big Broadcast of 2006 (episode)|The Big Broadcast of 2006}}

[[Image:G1 UltimateWeapon FirstAid fixingfridges.jpg|left|170px|thumb|You know things are going badly when you find yourself in Silent Hill with an air conditioner as your only companion.]]
The Autobots were asked to help the Dutch authorities deal with French rebels. First Aid wondered why the humans were always fighting amongst themselves. After dispersing the human aggressors, First Aid then helped out [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] when his comrade was shot down by [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. While the Autobots held off the loser-ish Decepticons, First Aid carried Blades back to [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] for repairs. After he finished, the Autobot medic responded to an intruder alert and confronted the Decepticon Swindle stealing Metroplex's [[transformation cog]]. Unfortunately, Swindle managed to make off with his loot because the pacifist Autobot refused to fight back. Despite [[Rodimus Prime (G1)|Rodimus Prime]]'s attempts to convince him that they didn't expect First Aid to compromise his beliefs, he felt he was a liability to the Autobots and left. After helping [[NUL-A|some old junker robot]] chug down some oil and repair some refrigerators, First Aid received a pep talk from [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]], which convinced him to come back to help the Autobots. While [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] and Metroplex fought it out, First Aid bravely entered the Autobot giant and re-aligned the stolen transformation cog to suit Metroplex, allowing the Autobot city to transform fully and defeat Trypticon. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}

Later in 2006, First Aid transported [[Jessica Morgan]] to County General Hospital after she was injured in a battle between the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] and the [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]]. Despite his helping to restore her ability to walk, the fact that First Aid was a robot had some [[Hate Plague|negative consequences]] because [[Mark Morgan|some]] [[Gregory Swofford|people]] are jerks. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}

===Japanese cartoon continuity===
====Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers====
When the Decepticon combiners attacked a baseball stadium in Japan, the Protectobots and Aerialbots raced to the rescue. After attending to the blaze created by [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]'s destruction, First Aid and his team combined into Defensor. However, Defensor's central component was damaged battling Bruticus; with Hot Spot out of action, the Protectobots could not maintain their super-robot form. Getting an idea, the Autobots' human friend [[Kenji]] told [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] to shoot out the legs of the Decepticon super-robots. With their legs damaged, Menasor and Bruticus were left open for First Aid and the other small Protectobots to link up as their new legs, taking over the Decepticons' locomotion, sending them out to sea. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5}}

Later, the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s were paving over a natural island paradise, and the Autobots sent a rescue party to save the wildlife and their friends on the island. Due to the medical needs of the mission, First Aid replaced [[Slingshot]] with the Aerialbots to form Superion. Even linked together, First Aid and the Aerialbots were outclassed against both [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], until [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] generated a hologram of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] to distract the dino-base Decepticon, sending him over a cliff. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 6}}

====''Scramble City'' cartoon====

First Aid and the Protectobots participated in the Scramble City project under Ultra Magnus's direction, working towards the construction of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. After the Decepticons uncovered their secret building site, the Protectobots rode into battle alongside the newly completed Metroplex. First Aid and his comrades arrived and formed Defensor just in time to act as the harbinger of Metroplex and his really big gun. {{storylink|Scramble City}}

====The Great Transformer War====
In 2010, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] kidnapped the scientist [[Doctor Dalton|Dalton]] in order to upgrade his combiner warriors. First Aid and the Protectobots joined forces with the Aerialbots to rescue Dalton from inside Trypticon. Superion was heavily damaged in the first strike run, however, and Hot Spot needed time in his repair bay mode to bring the Aerialbots back to fighting strength. While Blades snuck into Trypticon alone to rescue Dalton, First Aid, Streetwise and Groove defended Hot Spot against both Menasor and Bruticus. They held out long enough for the Aerialbots to be revived. After the Aerialbots distracted the Decepticons, Blades completed his mission and the Autobots rolled out for Scramble City with Dalton in tow. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====

In 2011, Galvatron attacked Cybertron looking to take control of [[Vector Sigma]]. First Aid and the Protectobots were active in Cybertron's defense as Defensor during the assault. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} Later, First Aid's team assembled on Earth at Ultra Magnus's command. Their mission was to stop the Decepticons from interfering with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s, who were searching for the hidden location of the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. On a security sweep, the Protectobots ran across their old nemeses, the Combaticons, and went into battle. The two teams quickly assumed their combined forms as Bruticus and Defensor, as the fighting escalated. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}

When Galvatron made another strike on Cybertron, this time to steal the super-metal [[Cybertonuron]], First Aid and the Protectobots assembled before the [[Space Bridge]] on Earth to be transported into battle. Seeking out the Combaticons on the battlefield, the Protectobots soon formed Defensor and fought once more with Bruticus. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Defensor and Bruticus's battle continued as Defensor delivered a devastating smash to Bruticus's back. For at least part of the battle, the two teams disassembled again for man-to-man combat, {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}}

First Aid and the Protectobots were dispatched to [[Peru]] with the [[Trainbot]]s when a volcano erupted, leaving a mountainside village in dire peril. Their rescue mission was blocked by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. [[Shoki]] and the Trainbots occupied the fiends so that the Protectobots could proceed on to the village and protect the innocent lives. Nevertheless, the Protectobots failed to reach the village, as they were intercepted by the Decepticons' second wave, the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s. True to his devout pacifism, First Aid was not seen engaging in battle until the Protectobots formed Defensor. This left them grouped together and vulnerable, however, to an underhanded attack. Defensor was taken out of action by [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]'s paralysis ray, which was strong enough to force First Aid and the Protectobots apart and leave them completely immobilized. {{storylink|The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts}}

First Aid and the Protectobots were part of a strike team that flew to the [[Moon (moon)|moon]] to disrupt Scorponok's gathering of Decepticons. They immediately formed Defensor upon entering the battle. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}} When the planet [[Sandra]] sent out a distress call asking for energy, the Autobots of Earth responded. While they were loading the Trainbots full of supplies, however, Galvatron and the Decepticons arrived to take the energy for themselves. First Aid and the Protectobots fought back against the enemy, and formed Defensor to counter Devastator on the battlefield. {{storylink|SOS from Planet Sandra}}

After the death of Ultra Magnus, the Autobots were desperately trying to pick up the slack during Sixshot's campaign of destruction around the globe. First Aid and the Protectobots assembled as Defensor to go out and confront Sixshot at one of the attack sites, but they apparently didn't fare too well. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} When the Decepticons seemingly abandoned Earth, First Aid and the Protectobots assisted Spike in rebuilding the planet after the enemy's departure. On one occasion, they located Sixshot's old command base. By combining into Defensor, the Protectobots helped Raiden and Computron obliterate the base, wiping out all trace of the Decepticons' presence. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 1)}}

Following a lengthy period of inactivity, the Decepticons renewed their attacks on Earth. With Fortress still off in space, Spike Witwicky dispatched First Aid and the Protectobots to attend to the threats. In Canberra, [[Australia]], the Protectobots confronted Bruticus at one of Scorponok's new Death Towers. As Defensor, the Protectobots were beaten severely by Bruticus, and First Aid was even knocked out of the arm socket. Using Scramble Power, Defensor switched Streetwise up to his shoulder and reattached First Aid as a leg, still carrying his fireball cannon. Despite this cunning(?) trick, Defensor was defeated by Bruticus. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} As part of Defensor, First Aid participated in the Autobots final battle with Scorponok's Decepticons at the North Pole. He lent his energies to the Headmasters' [[Head Formation]] to revitalize Fortress Maximus at the critical moment. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}

===Marvel comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
First Aid and the other Protectobots were created on Earth by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and the Autobots after they stole a recording of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator's]] combiner transformation sequence and modified it ''(and after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] shared a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-induced vision of the future with the [[Special Teams]] in it) {{storylink|Second Generation!}}.''

[[Image:Firstaid-g1issue26.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Remember: Down the block, not across the street.]]

Having learned of a Decepticon plot to acquire the human-made hydrothermocline, Optimus Prime brought the Protectobots with him to Energy Futures Industries in order to guard the device. After Megatron and the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] arrived ready for a fight, the Transformers allowed themselves to be convinced of a better solution by [[Ethan Zachary]], an employee of EFI. Zachary would upload their minds into a video simulation program known as Multi-World, allowing the Transformers to do battle without damaging the hydrothermocline or the surrounding area. Inside the game world, First Aid and [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] were exploring Vineland when their path was blocked by a web of thick vines. First Aid wanted to blast through, but Streetwise thought better of it and merely lifted the vines out of their way. They were caught off-guard by the Combaticons [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] and [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]], but were then miraculously saved by the living vines they had refrained from destroying moments ago. First Aid then used his [[decrystallizer cannon]] on the Decepticons, making them brittle enough for Streetwise to shatter with a burst from his compressed air cannon.

Apparently, First Aid's pacifism doesn't extend to ''virtual'' combat. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}}

''First Aid was later displaced to [[limbo]] right before [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]'s eyes, in order to make room for [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]]. {{storylink|Wanted:Galvatron — Dead or Alive!}}''

First Aid later attempted to console a despondent [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after the death of Optimus Prime. Why he didn't help Ratchet try to restore Prime, we'll never know. {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}}

''While not seen on-panel being killed in the [[Underbase Saga]], he was possibly deactivated in that battle, since he was next seen in a life support capsule as Optimus briefly considered using a Matrix fragment to revive him after Ratchet's disappearance. {{storylink|The Greatest Gift of All!}}''

====Generation 2====
When Optimus Prime and Grimlock discovered the threat of the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]], they called in Autobots scattered across the galaxy, including First Aid. And, when Grimlock chose to disobey Prime's directives and make a tactical first strike against [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s ships, First Aid went with him. They were quickly found out and captured, though, leaving it to Optimus to bail them out of trouble. {{storylink|Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|Devices and Desires!}}

Sometime later, First Aid was working with a science team alongside [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]. They attempted to find out what had devastated the population of [[J'asik]], down to the cellular level. Samples taken from the bodies helped the team identify the killer, known as the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]], as an offshoot of the Cybertronian race. {{storylink|Swarm (issue)|Swarm}}

===''Transformers in 3-D''===
Following [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s resurrection, First Aid and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] bugged him to come in for a full checkup, which [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] believed was just their way of saying that it was good to have the Autobot leader back. The checkup was interrupted by an alarm, which First Aid announced indicated a Decepticon attack. He took part in the effort to repel [[Sixshot]]'s forces, only for them to retreat on their own, when Prime realised it was just a diversion while Galvatron attacked the Energon plant. {{storylink|The War Against the Destructons, Chapter 1 of 3}}

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
[[Image:Firstaid-warwithin.jpg|right|150px|thumb|In his younger years, First Aid wore a stylish hoodie.]]
First Aid was on Cybertron with the other Protectobots when they decided to counter the threat of Devastator joining the [[Ultracon]] faction. {{storylink|Escalation (Dreamwave)|Escalation}}

Millions of years later, the Protectobots battled [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] as Defensor when the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] escaped from a penal facility... and lost, big time. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}} Defensor later aided in the Autobot insurrection. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} After the Autobots regained power, First Aid and the Protectobots searched [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s clone lab, finding [[Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] barely alive, having been attacked by [[Sunstorm (G1)|an unknown assailant]]. First Aid was seen administering medical help to the heavily damaged [[Battlecharger|Battlechargers]]. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}}
{{-}}

===IDW comics continuity===
{{spoiler|The Iron Age|June 12}}

In the early days of the war, First Aid was among the extraction team who located the damaged pair of [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] following their skirmish with the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. He performed initial repairs on both of them, bringing Tracks back online. {{storylink|Spotlight: Jazz}}

Sometime later, he was seen chatting with his comrades [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] during a victory celebration. {{storylink|The Iron Age}}

{{-}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''First Aid''' (Protectobot, 1986, 1991)
** ''Team ID number'': '''P4'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-75'''
** ''Accessories:'' "[[Photon pistol]]", "[[Decrystallizer cannon|Dual-Barrelled Decrystallizer Cannon]]" with attachment piece

: First Aid transforms into a Toyota Town Ace/Lite Ace ambulance. Due to the requirements of transformation, there are some significant compromises in the appearance of the vehicle, such as the rather visible hinge joints for the front end and the big gap in the back of the ambulance to facilitate his knee joint. There is a 5mm peg hole at the back to attach his large "Decrystallizer Cannon" to this mode.

:As a [[Scramble City]] robot, First Aid can form the limb of any super robot combination, though his nominal place is as the left arm of Defensor.

: During the initial 1986 run, there were two variants; initial runs had a [[die-cast]] metal chest, while later releases used plastic. When the toy was reissued in the European-[[exclusive]] [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] line, the [[rubsign]] was removed, but the rubsign indentation remained.

: This mold was also used to make [[Safety]] from the [[Guard City]] giftset in the [[Operation Combination (toyline)|''Operation Combination'' toyline]].

===Generation 2===
*'''First Aid'''
[[Image:G2-FirstAid.jpg.jpg|right|thumb|They didn't change me much.]]
: The Protectobots were to be released as part of the second wave of combiners in ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''. However, this entire wave was ultimately canceled for unknown reasons. First Aid was to be off-white with seafoam-green robot chest, gold robot parts and a different rescue/ambulance deco. Vanishingly few samples—less than a dozen—of this item made their way outside [[Hasbro]], including some on-card samples, which give him the unit number "P2".
{{canceledtoy}}
{{-}}

==Trivia==
* First Aid's pacifism is only demonstrated in the original cartoon- his fellow Protectobot Groove is supposed to be the pacifistic one. In his various comic appearances, First Aid seems to have no problems fighting his enemies.

* Although the Protectobots in the Marvel comics are assumed to have been built on Earth (explicitly so in the UK), his advice to [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime|death]] sounds like words of experience. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}}
* In the Italian dub, First Aid speaks with a cadence resembling an ambulance siren.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/FirstAid/firstaid.htm First Aid at TFU.info]
* [http://tfarchive.com/comics/misc/universe/tfufirstaid.php First Aid's Universe bio at TFArchive.com]

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[[Category:Headmasters characters]]
[[Category:Medics]]
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2010-06-13T11:20:03Z

Kayb:

Talk:Popular beast alternate modes

2010-05-29T07:40:07Z

Kayb:

If we're going to have this page at all, we're going to have to at least try to respect biological classification: pick levels we deem noteworthy and then stick with them across all groups. "Panther" is not a real animal name. Work in progress... --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 02:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

:Should we just eliminate the common names, then? Everyone should still know what we're talking about if we just say ''Panthera'' and ''Gorilla'', surely. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 02:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

::But they won't automatically know what we're talking about when they see ''Acinonyx'' or ''Ceratotherium''. Though I guess it becomes clear when you list the characters beneath them. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 03:56, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

:Thy, I have to disagree. We are writing this article for random laypeople that want to know about shared beast forms, not biologists. I think the page becomes significantly less useful if we do anything other than refer to the animals at the level at which random uneducated people will refer to them. None of the organization should be erroneous, of course, but random people will know the difference between at least some big cat species, and we should reflect that by splitting the big cats up. Readers will ''care'' whether the altmode is a lion versus a tiger, or perhaps even a polar bear versus some other variety of bear. But most people don't really know or care about different scorpions, for instance, so there is no need to split them up. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

::I agree with Steve, but I think it would serve to identify both ways. If we categorize with general "layman" animal types, we can give a scientific name, perhaps in parentheses, following the Transformer name on each entry into the list. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 04:33, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

:::We don't need to do that after every Transformer's name! I already broke all the vertebrates except "Bats" and "Rhinos" (which need work) down to the genus in parentheses. -[[User:Rotty|Rotty]] 05:27, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Well, then for those for whom it is necessary or pertinent? List the bats and rhinos as bats and rhinos, then specify after each individual's name. For the sake of information. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 05:44, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

==Dinoforce==
Are we to include these guys? Does the disguise of the shell count as an "alternate mode" to the robot, even if it's a mode that doesn't resemble that of the inner altmode (unlike Carnivac and Catilla, who unambiguously do fit on this list)?
Also, while I'm here, the pterosaur shit is really hard because I honestly don't remember which "Swoop" and "Terranotron" came out in BM or Armada and which ones were naming errors on instruction sheets and whatnot. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
:I don't consider a Pretender shell to be a "mode" at all. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:04, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, considering Pretender shells can have modes of their own, not to mention several pretenders already being listed on the virtue of their inner body's alt-mode.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 21:17, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

==Snapdragon==
Anyone feels that though his name has "Dragon", but his altmode looks like kinda dinosaur rather the Dragon. -- [[User:TX55|TX55]] 09:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
: He's not readily identifiable as any sort of creature other than "upright lizardy guy" so no, not really. It's not like he's blatantly a t. rex or what-have-you. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

==Speaking of which...==
I kind of think we should break "Dragons" down to "Traditional Dragons" and "Two-Headed Dragons," since we've got quite a few of those out there (RiD Megs, Hun-Grr, Doublecross, Sinnertwin sorta... I feel like I'm forgetting someone. Anyway, just a thought. I don't think there's any other fantasy monsters that are as common or as identifiable. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
:Singular and Double Dragons?--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 13:44, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
::Multi-headed. Cyb. Scourge has 3 heads. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 15:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

== Megatron in Beast Machines-Dragon Category ==

When he gets angry in beast machines he drops out of the armor and changes to a dragon. Why isn't this in there? It only lists Beast Wars Megatron's Dragon form currently. If there's a good reason I'm missing, please inform me. [[User:Mrhthepie|Mrhthepie]]
:It COULD be because BW Megatron is already listed, much like how Deathsaurus is only listed once instead of twice (his original Japanese toy form and his Botcon exclusive toy). BM Megatron and BW Megatron are the same character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

== Cobrabreast? ==

Who is Cobrabreast? Is he a Beastformer? A Breastmaster component? -[[User:75.168.112.43|75.168.112.43]] 00:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
:Cobrabreast is the Breast Animal/partner of [[Deathcobra (Victory)|Deathcobra]]. --[[User:TX55|TX55]] 00:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
::Er- why is he not mentioned on Deathcobras's page? Or anywhere? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

==Ha ha==
I have this incredible urge to add "homo sapiens" under Primates and list 95% of all Transformers ever. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:Transforers don't transform into humans, they transform into upright bipeds with bilateral symetry.
:...but seriously, add homo sapiens and put all the Pretenders in. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:45, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:: Speaking of Pretenders, should the [[Dinoforce]] be put in under the various dinosaur listings or not, since only their shells are dinosaurs? --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 19:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:::We discussed Dinoforce above, and seemed to come down on "no." Though I guess we could include an asterisked / italicized "so-and-so had a SHELL of a triceratops while not actually turning into one," and so on. If we're going to include ANY of the Pretenders, then I'll go for it. Note, though, that if we do include Pretender shells, the Dinoforce apatosaur will put us over the three-mold threshold for sauropods! --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 21:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

== Horses? ==

Alright, I got a question for you guys, since I can personally see how it could go either way in an argument. So, we only include guys who have at least three different toys/character models/body types into this page. Now as far as horse go, we got two for certain; [[Mach Kick]] and [[Strada]]. And then there's a third one, but I'm still debating with myself wether or not he should count; [[Dropshot (Armada)]]. From what I can tell, he never uses his horse mode in-story, but considering his character model is based off of a toy that does have a horse mode, does that make it count anyways? One would naturally assume he does have a horse mode under his circumstances, but it's still not backed up by officially published fiction... So yes or no, does he count? [[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 20:22, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
:I had forgotten all about Dropshot and never knew about Strada. They both definitely count. Good catch! I'm tempted to include [[Battle Unicorn]] and [[Magna Stampede]] too, though probably not at first....--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 21:59, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
:: Yeah, mythical animals are kinda tricky... I mean, [[Bruticus (RID)]] is classified as dog, so why wouldn't Unicorns be classified as part of the horse familly tree? I'd personally include them in too. :) [[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 22:04, 21 April 2009 (EDT)

== Bovidae != Bovinae ==

Bovines are of the subfamily Bovinae. Goats and antelopes are under the subfamily Caprinae. Thus, while goats are bov''ids'' they are not bov''ines''. Including [[Ramulus]] here seems a bit of a stretch.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:39, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
:I'll change the section title to "Bovids", then. I don't think there's a good reason to exclude them if they already fit into a manageably-sized category that was already there, in this case the family level. We use order-level classification for elephants already. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:11, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

== Ohay! Ice Age Wars ==

So, I just read up on [[Hearts of Steel]] and I noticed the part where the Transformers get prehistoric animal alt-modes... Now, I don't actually own the comics, so I'd be pretty hard for me to do it, but could anyone check what the altmodes of the characters are illustrated as having? Some of them might boost some altmode counts into appearing on this page... Or get included in already existing categories... As far as I can tell, none of them have been counted on this page. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 23:22, 1 May 2009 (EDT)
:...yeah, we forgot all about them. Someone who has the issues or who can point to online scans: help? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:52, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
:: I managed to get my hands on some scans of the comic. :) I'll post them asap. Gimme a few minutes. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 14:11, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

These are all the pictures of the Transformers with beast modes that I could find (aside from a few, which where just redundant close-ups and whatnot). I don't know my G1 characters very well though, so I'm having trouble figuring out who is who...

[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/iceage01.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage02.png]
(this one has two close-ups, since it's a two-page spread; [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage021.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage022.png])
[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage03.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage04.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage05.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage06.png]
[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage07.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage08.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage09.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage10.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage11.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage12.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage13.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage14.png] [http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PotoTheMagnificent/Ice%20Age%20Wars/Iceage15.png]

--[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 14:43, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
:Hrrrff. Thanks for providing those, but that artwork turns out to be really unhelpful. The beast modes are unclassifiable when they're not completely unrecognizable; what does Bumblebee turn into, a ten-foot-tall pillbug? It also doesn't help that all the robot modes look the same, basically the Dery models covered in teeth. We ''might'' be able to nail down Optimus Prime as a mammoth... though now that I think of it, I recall reading somewhere that he's actually supposed to be a sauropod. If anyone can make firm identifications I'm eager to read them, but I have low hopes. Thanks for doing the work on this at any rate; I hope you don't find this discouraging! --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:57, 5 May 2009 (EDT)
Not at all! :) If anything, anyone can pillage and crop those images to fill in some of the characters' pages. I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that the artist for Hearts of Steel confirmed somewhere that Optimus is a Brachiosaurus (this things with the really long necks from the first Jurassic Park movie) and I'm GUESSING that Bumblebee transforms into an Ankylosaurus (the same thing [[Bazooka (BWN)]] and redecos becomes) But yeah, the more I look at it, the more these guys just look like "Generic Prehistoric Monstrosities"... --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 15:03, 5 May 2009 (EDT)

Sorry, this was me, forgot to log in. Shouldn't Cicadacon/BWII Equivelent guy be listed here as well? [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 20:14, 28 May 2010 (EDT)
:Venom and Cicadacon/DJ--that's two molds. We need a third distinct cicada mold before the group can be included. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:44, 28 May 2010 (EDT)
:Oh yeah, forgot the three mold thing [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 03:40, 29 May 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Popular beast alternate modes

2010-05-29T00:14:22Z

Kayb:

Hot Spot (G1)

2010-05-23T01:23:18Z

Kayb: /* Generation 2 */

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{{disambig3|Hot Spot}}
:''Hot Spot is an [[Autobot]] [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]. He is also known as '''Hot Zone'''.''

[[Image:Hotspot-transformersuniverse.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Apparently, the Optimus Prime-like head wasn't enough. He had to have fake windshields on his chest, too.]]
'''Hot Spot''' leads by example. Whether it's a raging battle or a raging fire, he's right in the thick of things—and that's where he's happiest. While many Autobots get into trouble by not thinking in combat, Hot Spot is a natural warrior who excels at fighting on instinct alone. His fellow Protectobots find his endless energy inspiring (though a bit exhausting), letting Hot Spot command even the most philosophically different of robots like [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] and [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] as a tight and effective unit. He's a tough fighter to boot—strong, well-armed and well-armored.

Hot Spot can combine with his fellow [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] to form [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]].

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Calorifêro'''
:''Italian name'': '''Drago'''

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
:''Voice actor'': [[Dan Gilvezan]] (English), [[Kenyū Horiuchi]] (Japanese)

[[Image:G1 RevengeofBruticus HotSpotfightfire.jpg|left|170px|thumb|It's one of 'em newfangled drivin' by 'emselves fire trucks, huyuck!]]
When the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] attacked an inhabited city on [[Earth]], Optimus Prime called upon the Protectobots to evacuate the civilians caught in the crossfire. Later, as Earth's orbit was diverted to the [[sun]] by the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], Hot Spot extinguished the flames engulfing the bone-dry crops of a farmer before quickly driving off to the next fire. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}}

Hot Shot, as part of Defensor, totally blew up [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. Afterwards, he was with the Protectobots when they saved some window-washers from a burning skyscraper, helping [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] extinguish the flames with liquid nitrogen. Later still, Hot Spot and the other Protectobots were ordered to help defend [[Ark (G1)|Autobot Headquarters]] from a Decepticon attack. They merged into Defensor and activated his useless force field, which almost immediately deactivated, allowing the Decepticons to blast Defensor back into his component parts. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

By 2006, the Protectobots had risen to become a major presence in the Autobot army. Hot Spot participated in the liberation of [[Paradron]]. {{storylink|Fight or Flee}} He and [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] were among a group of Autobots who battled the Decepticons on [[Eurhythma]]. {{storylink|Carnage in C-Minor}} On Cybertron, Hot Spot and [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] manned the Autobots' defensive laser batteries when [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]'s ghost launched [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] into their range. Realizing that this "invasion" and the recent assault on [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] were connected with [[Unicron]] getting his eyes back, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] sent Hot Spot, Groove, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Springer]] up to Unicron to investigate. They were repulsed, violently, by Unicron's internal defenses. When Unicron and Starscream enlisted [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] to move the Planet-Eater's head to Cybertron to make it his new body, though, Hot Spot and his team were ready with energon explosives to blast Unicron back out into space. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine}}

[[Image:G1 UltimateWeapon HotSpotStreetwise covering FirstAid.jpg|right|170px|thumb|He regrets the moments he got his arm extensions.]]
One day, the Autobots were asked to help the Dutch authorities deal with French rebels. After dispersing the human aggressors, Hot Spot was concerned about how they could protect the human civilians from the Decepticons and cover First Aid, who was helping the downed [[Blades (G1)|Blades]]. Later, as it turned out the battle was only a diversion to allow [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] to steal Metroplex's [[transformation cog]], Hot Spot, Rodimus Prime and Ultra Magnus tried to reassure First Aid of his value to the Autobots when the pacifist medic failed to stop Swindle. Unfortunately, just as First Aid left, the Autobots were called upon to deal with a rampaging Trypticon. Hot Spot ordered the remaining Protectobots to combine into Defensor even without First Aid to save a train full of civilians. After successfully saving them, Hot Spot tracked down First Aid to a junk yard and convinced the latter of his value to the Autobots. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}

Later in 2006, the Protectobots arrived at the aftermath of the battle between the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] and [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] at [[Mark Morgan]]'s laboratory. They transported the injured [[Jessica Morgan]] to county general hospital and watched over her as the doctors restored her ability to walk with an exo-skeletal structure, enraging the robo-phobic senior Morgan. When Hot Spot tried to explain that they only wanted to help, Morgan shot back that they were only turning her into one of ''them''. This had [[Hate Plague|negative consequences]]. What a jerkface. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}

===Japanese cartoon continuity===
====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comics====
When the Stunticons went on a rampage, attacking a human baseball stadium, the Autobots' human friend [[Kenji]] radioed for help. Hot Spot and the other combiner warriors answered his summons. Afer Hot Spot extinguished the blaze caused by the Decepticon attack, he joined his fellow warriors in forming Defensor and Superion. The sides evened up with the arrival of Bruticus, however, and a critical blow to Defensor's chest damaged Hot Spot, forcing the Protectobots to disengage. Through sheer cunning, the other Protectobots managed to drive off the Decepticons, and Hot Spot survived long enough to receive the proper repairs. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5}}

Later, the Decepticons tried to drive a rift between the humans and Autobots by using their ground-bound members to pose as crazed Autobot attackers. Hot Spot and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] arrived on the scene and used their water sprays to wash off the fake Autobot symbols, revealing the Decepticons underneath. Not beaten yet, Onslaught and Motormaster unleashed a combiner whirlwind attack, but Hot Spot and Inferno whipped their ladders around, sending the Decepticon sub-commanders flying straight into a double kick by Optimus Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7}}

====''Scramble City'' OVA====
Hot Spot and the Protectobots participated in the Scramble City project under Ultra Magnus's direction, working towards the construction of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. After the Decepticons uncovered their secret building site, the Protectobots rode into battle alongside the newly completed Metroplex. Hot Spot and his comrades arrived and formed Defensor just in time to act as the harbinger of Metroplex and his really big gun. {{storylink|Scramble City}}

====''The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms'' comics====
On the planet [[Feminia]], the Autobots had constructed a massive energy tower, so naturally the Decepticons wanted to plunder it. Hot Spot and the Protectobots were present to defend the tower as Defensor, but were easily taken down by [[Predaking]]. They had to be rescued by the mysterious and powerful [[Omnibot]]s. {{storylink|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 5}}

====''The Great Transformer War'' comics''====
When [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] kidnapped the famous scientist, [[Doctor Dalton]], Hot Spot and the Protectobots joined the Aerialbots in speeding to his rescue. They were harshly rebuffed at [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]'s gate, however, by the Combaticons and Stunticons. Superion was torn to shreds, and Hot Spot converted to repair bay mode in order to bring the fallen Aerialbots back on line. His teammates held the line, fending off Bruticus and Menasor while Hot Spot hurried to finish his work, and Blades snuck inside Trypticon to retrieve Dalton. With the Aerialbots repaired and Dalton freed, the Autobots retreated back to Metroplex. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Kazuo Oka]] (Japanese)

In 2011, Galvatron attacked Cybertron looking to take control of [[Vector Sigma]]. Hot Spot and [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] were on the front lines defending Cybertron against the Combaticons. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} As Defensor, Hot Spot's team continued battling on Cybertron for some time. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} Later, Hot Spot and the Protectobots assembled on Earth at Ultra Magnus's command. Their mission was to stop the Decepticons from interfering with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s, who were searching for the hidden location of the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. On a security sweep, the Protectobots ran across their old foes, the Combaticons, and went into battle. The two teams quickly assumed their combined forms as Bruticus and Defensor, as the fighting escalated. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}

When Galvatron made another strike on Cybertron, this time to steal the super-metal [[Cybertonuron]], Hot Spot and the Protectobots assembled before the [[Space Bridge]] on Earth to be transported into battle. Seeking out the Combaticons on the battlefield, the Protectobots soon formed Defensor and fought once more with Bruticus. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Defensor and Bruticus's battle continued as Defensor delivered a devastating smash to Bruticus's back. For at least part of the battle, the two teams disassembled again, as Hot Spot and Blades were seen firing upon the aerial Combaticons again. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}}

Hot Spot and the Protectobots were dispatched to [[Peru]] with the [[Trainbot]]s when a volcano erupted, leaving a mountainside village in dire peril. Their rescue mission was blocked by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. Hot Spot was ready to tear into the enemy, but [[Shoki]] insisted the Protectobots proceed on to the village to protect the innocent lives. Hot Spot relented, but the Protectobots nevertheless failed to reach the village. They were intercepted by the Decepticons' second wave, the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s. Although they formed Defensor, the Protectobots were taken out of action by [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]'s paralysis ray, which was strong enough to leave them completely immobilized. {{storylink|The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts}}

Hot Spot and the Protectobots were part of a strike team that flew to the [[Moon (moon)|moon]] to disrupt Scorponok's gathering of Decepticons. They immediately formed Defensor upon entering the battle. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}} When the planet [[Sandra]] sent out a distress call asking for energy, the Autobots of Earth responded. While they were loading the Trainbots full of supplies, however, Galvatron and the Decepticons arrived to take the energy for themselves. Hot Spot and the Protectobots fought back against the enemy, and formed Defensor to counter Devastator on the battlefield. {{storylink|SOS from Planet Sandra}}

After the death of Ultra Magnus, the Autobots were desperately trying to pick up the slack during Sixshot's campaign of destruction around the globe. Hot Spot and the Protectobots assembled as Defensor to go out and confront Sixshot at one of the attack sites, but they apparently didn't fare too well. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} When the Decepticons seemingly abandoned Earth, Hot Spot and the Protectobots assisted Spike in rebuilding the planet after the enemy's departure. On one occasion, they located Sixshot's old command base. By combining into Defensor, the Protectobots helped Raiden and Computron obliterate the base, wiping out all trace of the Decepticons' presence. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 1)}}

Following a lengthy period of inactivity, the Decepticons renewed their attacks on Earth. With Fortress still off in space, Spike Witwicky dispatched Hot Spot and the Protectobots to attend to the threats. In Canberra, [[Australia]], the Protectobots confronted Bruticus at one of Scorponok's new Death Towers. As Defensor, the Protectobots were beaten severely by Bruticus. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} As part of Defensor, Hot Spot participated in the Autobots final battle with Scorponok's Decepticons at the North Pole. He lent his energies to the Headmasters' [[Head Formation]] to revitalize Fortress Maximus at the critical moment. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
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[[Image:Protectobots-marvel24.jpg|left|thumb|300px]]

Hot Spot and the other Protectobots were created on Earth by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and the Autobots after they stole a recording of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]'s combiner transformation sequence and modified it. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}'' After, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] shared a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-induced vision of the future with the [[Special Teams]] in it. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}''

Hot Spot accompanied Optimus Prime and his fellow Protectobots to [[Energy Futures Industries]], where they squared off against Megatron and the Combaticons to prevent them from stealing the [[hydrothermocline]], a potentially limitless supply of energy. To prevent property damage and potential civilian casualties, the Autobots agreed to be uploaded into a virtual fantasy world in EFI's computer systems by [[Ethan Zachary]], a [[human]] programmer on site. Similarly, the Decepticons agreed so that the hydrothermocline would remain intact. The game scenario was arranged so that the "death" of either Optimus or Megatron would end the game. Once inside "[[Multi-World]]", Hot Spot convinced Optimus Prime to remain behind while the Protectobots eliminated the potential threats. Hot Spot himself did battle with his opposite number, [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]], in the region known as the Slimepit. Despite the hindrance the bog caused, Hot Spot still held true to Autobot ideals and threw himself in harm's way to protect the virtual inhabitants of Multi-World. In turn, they carried him to safety away from Onslaught, giving him the advantage he needed to defeat the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]]. Despite their efforts, though, Optimus Prime ended up dying on this mission, and the Protectobots brought his body back to the Ark. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}}

[[Image:Democracykingofthehill.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]

Hot Spot was one of the several Autobots who watched through a window as [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] futilely tried to repair Optimus Prime's body. {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} After the funeral, Hot Spot and other high-ranking Autobots assembled to nominate a new leader. Hot Spot suggested their nominee possess wisdom just like Optimus Prime, since their late leader knew how and how not to fight. After the Autobots were rescued by the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] from an attack by [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], Hot Spot and the others chose [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] to be their new leader. {{storylink|King of the Hill!}}

[[Image:Hotspot-g1issue35.jpg|left|250px|thumb|"Now I've set the timer to ten seconds, so I'll just get in between you guys and—dammit! Not again!"]]

Under Grimlock's leadership, Hot Spot and the Protectobots were ordered to hunt down and apprehend the AWOL Autobots [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]]. They caught up with the deserters at a used car lot run by [[Big Steve Ludwig|Big Steve]], but a four-way skirmish developed between Blaster, the Protectobots, the Combaticons, and the human-led robot hunters, [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. In the end, Hot Spot and his crew only managed to capture Blaster. {{storylink|Used Autobots}} When a second encounter with the Combaticons endangered the lives of several young humans, Blaster not only saved the children and defeated [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] where [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] failed, but then willingly resubmitted himself to Protectobot custody rather than trying to escape. Impressed with Blaster's actions, Hot Spot decided to defy Grimlock's orders and let him go free. {{storylink|Child's Play (issue)|Child's Play}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
''In 2008, Hot Spot was seen beating the stuffing out of a Decepticon during a major offensive on Cybertron. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!|The Legacy of Unicron!}}''

====Generation 2====
[[Image:Hotspot-g2issue2.jpg|left|180px|thumb|He's a Fahrenheit 451 truck: his job is to start fires.]]
Hot Spot led a team of Autobots sent to [[Earth]] by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] to counter the threat of a [[Cobra]]-rebuilt [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]. Megatron's new form was more than a match for them, however, and nearly all of his team were destroyed. Only Hot Spot and [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] survived the encounter. {{storylink|Final Transformations}}

As the last survivor still on Earth, Hot Spot observed Cobra hauling a trailer of Transformers technology salvaged from the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], and noted that his orders included keeping Autobot tech out of the humans' hands. He single handedly attacked the convoy, drawing fire from numerous Cobra tanks, until he managed to destroy the trailer by ramming it off the side of an embankment. Weary and on the brink of shut-down, Hot Spot self-destructed to keep Cobra from using his own body as a replacement source of technology. {{storylink|All or Nothing!}}

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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
[[Image:Hotspot-warwithin.jpg|right|200px|thumb|My invisible partner already has this dance—]]
After the signing of the [[Crisis Intervention Accord]], many of the special teams went into hiding or broke up to continue fighting on different factions. Hot Spot maintained the Protectobots, one of the late model specials teams, in secret. The group watched the battles rage around them, continuing to help when possible, intervening to uphold CIA where necessary, and trying to overcome the shortcomings of the combination process.

Upon learning that [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] had persuaded the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] to join his [[Ultracon]]s, Hot Spot led his team to the [[Tagan Heights]] to counter the threat of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] by using Defensor. Unfortunately the plan backfired and the battle between the two titans only increased the damage. Proving that five minds are better than one, the team divided and defeated Devastator with an overload of electricity.

Hot Spot was obsessed with overcoming the problem with their combined form. The team's analysis was interrupted by an attack by the [[Chaos Trinity]], as Hot Spot was one of the Four Angles of Dissolution the [[The Fallen|Fallen]] needed to awaken [[Primus]] and draw [[Unicron]] to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. After the previous failure against Devastator, Hot Spot was unwilling to risk using Defensor again, and his team was defeated by the enhanced powers of [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and his allies, [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] and [[Bugly]]. Hot Spot was taken to a subterranean chamber, where energy from his and three others' Sparks served to unlock the seal of Primus. [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], another of the Four, eventually freed himself and rescued Hot Spot in what might have been an embarrassing role reversal... if he'd been awake for it. {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages|The War Within: The Dark Ages}}

During [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s reign over [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], he was later sent to stop [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]'s rampage. Despite merging with his fellow [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] into [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]], he was defeated even with the aid of the [[Omnibot (G1)|Omnibot]]s. {{storylink|War and Peace}}

===Universe: The Wreckers===
[[Image:Hotspot-wreckers.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Leave it to [[Dan Khanna|a fan]] to actually show, for the first time ever, his weapons doing what they're supposed to do.]]
In the not-too-distant future, Hot Spot led a team of [[Targetmaster|Targetmasters]] aboard [[Sky Garry (G1)|Sky Garry]] to back up [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]], and [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]] during an outbreak of [[Nightbird (G1)|crazed female cyber ninjas]]. Fighting a losing battle, Hot Spot personally had to drag Arcee to safety, leaving Wheelie and Daniel behind to grenade themselves to death. Fortunately, their murder-suicide pact also took out the remaining Nightbirds. {{storylink|Departure}}

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===IDW comics continuity===
{{ongoing}}
Sometime before Cybertron was abandoned, Hot Spot was a dispatch officer, searching for viable soldiers to fill out the ranks. When he needed a volunteer for a deep space exploration mission, he reluctantly chose the tiny supply-bot known as [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] for the assignment. {{storylink|Spotlight: Wheelie}}

Two years after the fall of Megatron in [[New York]] city, Hot Spot was seen among the surviving Autobots stranded on Earth. {{storylink|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}}

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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Hot Spot''' (Protectobot, 1986)
**''Team ID number:'' '''P5'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-71'''
**''Accessories'': 2 "Fireball Cannons", 2 mechanical arms, left & right "blast shields", Defensor hip shield, left & right Defensor fists, left & right Defensor footplates

: Hot Spot transforms into a blue Mitsubishi Fuso Great fire engine. As a Scramble City combiner torso, he has a third mode as a "repair bay", somewhat remeniscent of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Powermaster Optimus Prime]]'s combat deck. In this form, he is equipped with waldo arms to "repair" other vehicles. Hot Spot can connect with [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'s city mode in this form as well. Another alternate mode allows him to function as an armored car carrier, by extending his legs in vehicle mode and attaching his guns and Defensor's chest plates; he has deck space to carry a single small vehicle in this form.

: Hot Spot's chest plate was initially made of painted [[die-cast]] metal. However, later runs replaced this with colored plastic. A plastic-chest yellow-eyed version (as opposed to the red eyes on the other releases) has been reported but not confirmed.

: This mold was also used to make [[Fire Chief]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Hotspot/hotspot.htm More information on Hot Spot at TFU.info]''

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*'''Defensor''' (Gift set, 1986)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-76'''

: All five Protectobots were also available in a gift set. It is currently unknown which construction variants came in the set.

===Generation 2===
*'''Hot Spot''' (1994)
[[Image:G2-Hotspot.jpg|right|thumb|That's right, the only photo of this Hot Spot mold on this page is a fuzzy, super-rare unreleased one.]]
**''Team ID number:'' '''P1'''
**''Accessories'': 2 "Fireball Cannons", 2 mechanical arms, left & right "blast shields", Defensor hip shield, left & right Defensor fists, left & right Defensor footplates

: Hot Spot and the other Protectobots were to be [[Redeco|redecoed]] for ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'', but were ultimately canceled. No packaged samples of Hot Spot (or his similarly-unreleased Decepticon counterpart [[Motormaster]]) have surfaced, and only a handful of test-shots are known to exist. He would have been red and orange with a teal chestplate. If you've seen this, you may in fact be glowing with an inner light. Or you're [[Shortround]].

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===Universe (2008)===
====Classic Series====
*'''Special Team Leaders''' (Legends multi-pack, 2008)

: "Hot Zone" (renamed for [[trademark]] reasons) is a redeco of the [[Legends Class|Legends]]-class [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|''Cybertron'' Optimus Prime]], transforming into a futuristic fire truck cab. He was only available in a Target-[[exclusive]] box set with [[Hun-Gurrr|Hun-Grrr]], [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]], [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], and [[Scattershot|Scattorshot]].

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/TFUHotZone/hotzone.htm More information on Hot Zone at TFU.info]''

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===Titanium Series===
[[Image:TitaniumSeries-HotZone.jpg|right|thumb|300px|No, I don't fight [[Megazarak]]. Or [[Defensor (OTFCC)|do I???]]]]
*'''Hot Zone''' (6-inch Cybertron Heroes, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Display stand

:''[[Titanium Series]]'' Hot Zone is a redeco of the 6-inch ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], an idea which thematically calls back to the unreleased [[The Official Transformers Collectors Convention|OTFCC]] ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Defensor (OTFCC)|Defensor]], but otherwise doesn't resemble its deco. (Hot Zone is the super robot decoed like Hot Spot, while OTFCC Defensor's super robot was decoed like Defensor.) Like other Titanium Series toys, Hot Zone is partially constructed of [[die-cast]] metal. His vehicle mode has a ladder which rotates at its base, and two nozzles flip out of the end of the ladder.

:Unlike previous ''Titanium Series'' toys which were subtitled by the fictional universe/continuity they came from, Hot Zone and the other 2009 ''Titanium Series'' redecos are marketed under the 2008-2009 [[Universe (2008 toyline)|''Universe'' line]]. Also, Hot Zone lacks the display stand that previous ''Titanium Series'' toys included.

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==Trivia==
[[Image:G1HotSpotHeads.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Sometimes you feel like a mouth. Sometimes you don't.]]
* Like [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]'s ever disappearing-and-reappearing visor, Hot Spot would occasionally switch between having a [[faceplate]] or having a mouth drawn '''on''' his faceplate in his appearances on the original ''Transformers'' cartoon. The two most prominent instances of him having a mouth occur in "[[Ghost in the Machine]]" and "[[The Ultimate Weapon]]"—episodes that seem to have been animated by two different animation companies, suggesting that Hot Spot's mouth may have come from an alternate [[character model]]. Or, at least, a recurring [[José Delbo|artist mistake]].
* Hot Spot was given an [[homage]] in the ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' line; [[Firebot (Armada)|Firebot]] (a crash-response truck) was redecoed in light blue with red-and-white warning stripes.

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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Hotspot/hotspot.htm Hot Spot's TFU.info profile]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Hot_Spot Hot Spot's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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:''Groove is an <s>dirty hippie</s> [[Autobot]] [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Groove-robotmode.jpg|right|253px|thumb|Lay back and dream on a rainy day.]]
'''Groove''' is a free spirit, man. A full fuel tank and an open sky above him is all this chopper needs to mellow out and enjoy whatever good vibrations the open road brings his way. One relaxed, easy-going dude, Groove is also a bit of a loner in his soul. He doesn't make a lot of attachments to others, preferring the freedom of an empty highway, but he is always sure to be there with the love when his Protectobot teammates need his help. Groove doesn't like combat or conflict in general, and is always ready to give peace a chance.

Groove combines with his fellow Protectobots to form [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]].

:''Pre-production name:'' '''Cruiser'''<ref>[[Sunbow Productions]] cast list entry for "[[The Revenge of Bruticus]]".</ref>
:''French-Canadian name'': '''Le Sillon'''
:''Italian name:'' '''Chips'''

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Osamu Saka]] (Japanese)

[[Image:G1 RevengeofBruticus Groove Streetwise freezer.jpg|left|170px|thumb|If you're fond of sand dunes and salty air...]]
When the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] attacked an inhabited city on [[Earth]], Optimus Prime called upon the Protectobots to evacuate the civilians caught in the crossfire. Later, as Earth's orbit was diverted to the [[Sun]] by the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] and Groove commandeered a meat locker to keep the overheated humans cool. Groove was worried that the humans would freeze in there, but Streetwise assured him that given the constantly rising temperatures outside, the humans would be fine. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}}

Groove, as part of Defensor, totally blew up [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. Afterwards, he was with the Protectobots when they helped save some window-washers from a burning skyscraper, Groove extinguishing the flames with his liquid nitrogen. Later still, Groove and the other Protectobots were ordered to help defend [[Ark (G1)|Autobot Headquarters]] from a Decepticon attack. They merged into Defensor and activated his useless force field, which almost immediately deactivated, allowing the Decepticons to blast Defensor back into his component parts. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

[[Image:G1 GhostintheMachine Groove lockedloaded.jpg|right|170px|thumb|Let this groove / light up your fuse / it's all right, alllll right!]]
In the year 2006, Groove and the Protectobots were frequently active on both Earth and Cybertron. Shortly before the first Cybertronian peace conference, Groove attended a surprise birthday party for [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]]. He was therefore available to help [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and the other Autobots fend off a Combaticon assault on the conference's shuttle bay. {{storylink|Surprise Party}} On another occasion, [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'s eyes were stolen under unusual circumstances at [[Autobot City]], and so [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] had [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] on high alert. When the Decepticon [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] began brazenly flying into their air space, Rodimus ordered Groove and [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] to man the defensive laser batteries and blow him out of the sky.

The pacifistic Groove's response? "Locked and loaded!"

After pummeling Astrotrain with laser fire, the Autobots realized the stolen eyes weren't for [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], but [[Unicron]]. Groove joined Ultra Magnus and a squad of Autobots who traveled aboard [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] to investigate their artificial moon. Unicron awakened while they were inside him, however, and unleashed an electron storm which blasted the Autobots out into space. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine}}

Back on Earth, the Autobots were asked to help the Dutch authorities deal with French rebels. After dispersing the human aggressors by driving at them in a scary fashion, Groove and the other Autobots defended the human civilians and covered First Aid, who was carrying the downed [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] back to [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. Later, it turned out the battle was only a diversion to allow [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] to steal Metroplex's [[transformation cog]]. First Aid left the Autobots when he failed to stop the theft. Unfortunately, just as First Aid left, the Autobots were called upon to deal with a rampaging [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]. Hot Spot ordered the remaining Protectobots to combine into Defensor without First Aid, and they still successfully saved a train full of civilians. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}

Later in 2006, the Protectobots arrived at the aftermath of the battle between the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] and [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] at [[Mark Morgan]]'s laboratory. They transported the injured [[Jessica Morgan]] to County General Hospital and watched over her as the doctors restored her ability to walk with an exo-skeletal structure, enraging the robo-phobic senior Morgan. This had [[Hate Plague|negative consequences]]. What a jerkface. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}

===Japanese cartoon continuity===
====Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers====

Groove and his fellow Protectobots joined forces with the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]]s when the Decepticon combiners attacked a baseball stadium. Hot Spot was damaged in battle, leaving the Protectobots unable to remain combined as Defensor. [[Kenji]], the Autobots' human friend, devised a plan to shoot out the leg components of the Decepticon super warriors. Groove transformed into motorcycle mode and drove Kenji through a flying jump, letting the boy get close enough to [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] to yell out his plan. After Superion zapped out the Decepticons' legs, Groove and his fellow Protectobots slipped on in their place, forcing [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] and [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] to move according to the Autobots' commands. The poor Decepticons were last seen being led out to sea by their own disobedient legs. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5}}

====''Scramble City'' cartoon====

Groove and the Protectobots participated in the Scramble City project under Ultra Magnus's direction, working towards the construction of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. After the Decepticons uncovered their secret building site, the Protectobots rode into battle alongside the newly completed Metroplex. Groove and his comrades arrived and formed Defensor just in time to act as the harbinger of Metroplex and his really big gun. {{storylink|Scramble City}}

====The Great Transformer War====
When [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] kidnapped [[Doctor Dalton]], the famous scientist, the Protectobots and Aerialbots sped off to rescue the doctor from [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]. Working with [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] and [[Motormaster]], however, Trypticon's Scramble City launcher power allowed the Decepticons to disable Superion before he got close enough to attack. With the Aerialbots seriously injured, the Protectobots had to formulate a new plan. Hot Spot quickly got to work in repair bay mode bringing the Aerialbots back to full status. While [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] snuck into Trypticon alone to rescue the doctor, Groove, First Aid and Streetwise had the unenviable task of defending Hot Spot against both Bruticus and Menasor until he could finish his repair work. Although they took a serious pounding, Groove and his valiant comrades held the line long enough for the Aerialbots to recover and Blades to save Dalton. The Protectobots and Aerialbots left Trypticon victorious, and escorted the thankful doctor back to Metroplex, where he began work on the new [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]]. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====

In 2011, Galvatron attacked Cybertron looking to take control of [[Vector Sigma]]. Groove and the Protectobots were active in Cybertron's defense as Defensor during the assault. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} Later, Groove's team assembled on Earth at Ultra Magnus's command. Their mission was to stop the Decepticons from interfering with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s, who were searching for the hidden location of the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. On a security sweep, the Protectobots ran across their old nemeses, the Combaticons, and went into battle. The two teams quickly assumed their combined forms as Bruticus and Defensor, as the fighting escalated. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}

When Galvatron made another strike on Cybertron, this time to steal the super-metal [[Cybertonuron]], Groove and the Protectobots assembled before the [[Space Bridge]] on Earth to be transported into battle. Seeking out the Combaticons on the battlefield, the Protectobots soon formed Defensor and fought once more with Bruticus. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Defensor and Bruticus's battle continued as Defensor delivered a devastating smash to Bruticus's back. For at least part of the battle, the two teams disassembled again for man-to-man combat, {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}}

Groove and the Protectobots were dispatched to [[Peru]] with the [[Trainbot]]s when a volcano erupted, leaving a mountainside village in dire peril. Their rescue mission was blocked by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. [[Shoki]] and the Trainbots occupied the fiends so that the Protectobots could proceed on to the village and protect the innocent lives. Nevertheless, the Protectobots failed to reach the village, as they were intercepted by the Decepticons' second wave, the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s. Groove and the Protectobots briefly struggled with the Headmasters before forming Defensor, but that left them grouped together and vulnerable to an underhanded attack. Defensor was taken out of action by [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]'s paralysis ray, which was strong enough to force Groove and the Protectobots apart and leave them completely immobilized. {{storylink|The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts}}

Groove and the Protectobots were part of a strike team that flew to the [[Moon (moon)|moon]] to disrupt Scorponok's gathering of Decepticons. They immediately formed Defensor upon entering the battle. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}} When the planet [[Sandra]] sent out a distress call asking for energy, the Autobots of Earth responded. While they were loading the Trainbots full of supplies, however, Galvatron and the Decepticons arrived to take the energy for themselves. Groove and the Protectobots fought back against the enemy, and formed Defensor to counter Devastator on the battlefield. {{storylink|SOS from Planet Sandra}}

After the death of Ultra Magnus, the Autobots were desperately trying to pick up the slack during Sixshot's campaign of destruction around the globe. Groove and the Protectobots assembled as Defensor to go out and confront Sixshot at one of the attack sites, but they apparently didn't fare too well. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} When the Decepticons seemingly abandoned Earth, Groove and the Protectobots assisted Spike in rebuilding the planet after the enemy's departure. On one occasion, they located Sixshot's old command base. By combining into Defensor, the Protectobots helped Raiden and Computron obliterate the base, wiping out all trace of the Decepticons' presence. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 1)}}

Following a lengthy period of inactivity, the Decepticons renewed their attacks on Earth. With Fortress still off in space, Spike Witwicky dispatched Groove and the Protectobots to attend to the threats. In Canberra, [[Australia]], the Protectobots confronted Bruticus at one of Scorponok's new Death Towers. As Defensor, the Protectobots were beaten severely by Bruticus. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} As part of Defensor, Groove participated in the Autobots final battle with Scorponok's Decepticons at the North Pole. He lent his energies to the Headmasters' [[Head Formation]] to revitalize Fortress Maximus at the critical moment. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
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[[Image:Groove-savemyself.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Down a crowded avenue.]]
Streetwise and the other Protectobots were created on Earth by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and the Autobots after they stole a recording of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]'s combiner transformation sequence and modified it ''(and after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] shared a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-induced vision of the future with the [[Special Teams]] in it). {{storylink|Second Generation!}}''

After being brought on-line by Optimus Prime, Groove and his team went on a mission to intercept the Decepticons before they could steal the hydrothermocline from a human industrial plant. Both sides ended up agreeing to do battle in a virtual landscape maintained by the powerful computer system at the plant, so that the Decepticons wouldn't damage their prize and the Autobots could insure the safety of innocent lives. Patrolling the computer-generated area of Multi-World known as the Cloud-Steppes, Groove and [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] were attacked by Combaticons [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] and [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]]. When the Decepticon fliers severed the floating roadway Groove was driving on, he shouted at Blades to let him save himself and instead catch the Cloud-Steppers who fell with him. In gratitude, the humanoids unleashed a cloud cover which distracted the Combaticons long enough for Groove to blast them with his photon pistol. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}}

Many months later, Groove happened to put the mode-locked Autobot [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] down in a storm drain. This simple act set in motion a chain of events that led to words like "Spacehikers" and "Cosmic Carnival". It is Groove's secret shame. {{storylink|Child's Play (issue)|Child's Play}}
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====Generation 2====
[[Image:Groove-g2vehicle.jpg|right|150px|thumb|And my soul's been psychedelicized.]]
Groove returned to working with the Autobots after Prime and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] uncovered the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian army]] and their threat to the universe. He participated in Grimlock's ill-fated sabotage attempt on the [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Liege Centuro]]'s warships. {{storylink|Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|Devices and Desires!}} Later, he joined the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] in a training exercise against [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and the Dinobots. {{storylink|The Power and the Glory}}
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
[[Image:Groove-darkages-robot.jpg|left|150px|thumb|War Within! Yeah! What is it good for? Absolutely nothin'!]]
Groove, despite his freewheeling ways, stuck with his team during the [[War Within: The Dark Ages|Dark Ages]] and took part in the battle against Devastator. Groove was the go-between bot for [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] and [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]], taking pride in his great speed. As a team, they toppled the giant. Later, to his credit, Groove was the last Protectobot to be defeated by [[the Fallen]]'s acolytes, with the exception of [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]], whom they were not targeting.

In modern times, Groove and the Protectobots were damaged while battling Menasor as Defensor and had to be rescued by Ultra Magnus and the Wreckers. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}} Defensor later joined the united Autobot forces in overthrowing Shockwave's control of Cybertron. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}} In the aftermath, Groove and the Protectobots processed the forensics at one of Shockwave's labs, where a mysterious energy discharge had disabled the Battlechargers and shot out into the sky. {{storylink|Black Sunshine}}
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{{Note|With [[Dreamwave Productions]]' bankruptcy, the Protectobots never solved this case.}}

===IDW comics continuity===
{{spoiler|The Iron Age|June 12}}

Four million years ago, Groove was a soldier in the Autobot army working under [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. He, [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] held the line to prevent the Decepticon advancement in one of Cybertron's major cities. At the celebration that followed the Autobots' victory, he was seen chatting with [[Gizmo]] and [[Download]]. {{storylink|The Iron Age}}
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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Groove''' (Small Protectobot, 1986)
**''Team ID number:'' '''P2'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-74'''
: Like all Scramble City-style combiner limbs, Groove was sold on a carded package. He was available in 1986 and 1987. He is one of the most ''incredibly'' simplistic Transformer toys ever released, with only his front wheel/handlebar/windshield assembly, his head, and his seat moving during the conversion to robot mode. He has virtually nothing recognizable as legs, only the seat halves split apart to form his feet. His arms are formed from the chrome engine pieces on his sides, which swing up from the shoulder and would otherwise not be recognizable as arms.
: This mold was also used to make [[Sparkride]].

===Generation 2===
[[Image:G2-Groove.jpg|right|thumb|I'm [[Playskool|day-glo playskool]] and yet cost more than your house. Chew on that.]]
* '''Groove''' (Unreleased)
**''Team ID number:'' '''P3'''
:A very orange [[redeco]] of his Generation 1 toy was planned, but was canceled after a few production samples were made.

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==Trivia==
*Sometimes [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] likes to steal Groove's pacifism and run off with it.

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Groove/groove.htm Groove at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Groove Groove's Universe profile at NTFA.net]
*[http://www.seibertron.com/toys/gallery.php?id=850&size=0&start=0 Generation 2 Groove photogallery @ Seibertron.com]

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Wildrider (G1)

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:''Wildrider is a [[Decepticon]] [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:MTMTEWildrider.jpg|right|300px|thumb|When slow people race Wildrider, THE TERRORISTS WIN.]]
What [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] does for air travel '''Wildrider''' does for the roadways. The difference is that the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]] honestly means no harm and this insanely wild-riding [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] most definitely does. Some of his Decepticon comrades suspect him of playing insane to enhance his street cred, but those who have come to know him the best realize that it's no act. Wildrider really is as [[Galvatron (G1)|crazy]] [[Tarantulas|as]] [[Flame (UK comic)|they]] [[Inferno (BW)|come]] and a very real danger to anything on the road with him. Even his fellow Stunticons are wary of driving anywhere near him.

Wildrider combines with his fellow Stunticons to form [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]].

{{bigquote|I'm Wildrider, and I wanna bust something up!|Wildrider, crazy as they come|[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1]]}}

:''French-Canadian name'': '''Faroucho'''
:''Italian name'': '''Squalo'''

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Terry McGovern]] (English), [[Yu Shimaka|Yutaka Shimaka]] (Japanese)

[[Image:TransEuropeExpress riding Wildrider.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Not Mr. Toad.]]
After a failed attempt to steal experimental rocket fuel from [[United States Military]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] realized that while the Decepticons controlled the skies, the Autobots had supremacy on the ground, and so they needed new ground-based warriors who could out-drive and out-fight the Autobots on their terms. [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] was sent to steal various [[human]] vehicles that would be rebuilt in the new Stunticons. The Decepticons journeyed to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], beat the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] out of [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]]'s possession and ordered the [[Vector Sigma|ancient supercomputer]] to give life to the Stunticons. While the other Stunticons pledged their loyalty to Megatron, Wildrider merely stated his desire for destruction. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} Whilst the Autobots were trapped on Cybertron, the Decepticons returned to [[Earth]] with the newly awakened Stunticons, who began wreaking havoc and damaging the Autobots' good name by attacking the US military base containing the experimental rocket fuel. Eventually, the Autobots returned with the newly built [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] whose combined form Superion defeated the Stunticon combiner Menasor. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

When the Autobots got involved in the fake [[Europa 2000]] charity race he had set up, Megatron needed them removed from the playing field to stop any interference with his plans to dig up the [[Pearl of Bahoudin]] and steal an experimental car engine from [[Auggie Cahnay (G1)|Auggie Cahnay]], the top US driver. He had the Stunticons intercept and eliminate the Autobots, and Wildrider helped disable [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] with his fellow Decepticons. [[Bluestreak]] refused to just lay down, though, dodging the Stunticons' ramming attacks and jumping atop Wildrider's hood. The crazy Stunticon eventually shook Bluestreak off by just crashing hood-first into a mountain at over 150 mph. Afterwards, the Stunticons were defeated when Cahnay rammed his car into Menasor’s face. {{storylink|Trans-Europe Express}}

[[Image:CosmicRust Wildrider speedboat.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The Hate Boat/Soon will be making another round...]]
When Megatron was infected with [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] after a trip to the lost Autobot colony of [[Antilla]], the Stunticons were assigned to capture the Autobot scientist [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], who had developed the powerful anti-corrosion [[Corrostop]]. Wildrider drove a speedboat while Drag Strip water skied behind him. After Megatron cured himself and infected the Autobots with the Cosmic Rust, Menasor attacked the Statue of Liberty in [[New York City]] with the ancient [[Lightning Bug]] heat ray, trying to stop the Autobots from [[Matter duplicator|matter-duplicating]] more Corrostop from the layer they sprayed on the statue. Superion defeated Menasor and destroyed the Lightning Bug. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}

After Starscream was banished for yet another failed coup, he returned with a powerful new Decepticon team called the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], who were able to outfight Autobot and Decepticon alike. With Megatron needing a trump card, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] attempted to call on the Stunticons to help, but they refused as they were having a demolition derby with various human-owned cars. However, the Stunticons belatedly arrived after the Combaticons' combined form of [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] defeated [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and forced Megatron to acknowledge Starscream as the new Decepticon leader. Realizing that Starscream would not stop at Megatron, the Stunticons merged into Menasor and disabled Bruticus in one mighty punch. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}

[[Image:Masquerade BreakdownWildriderdefeated.jpg|left|200px|thumb|How mortifrying!!]]
In his next scheme, Megatron charged the Stunticons with bringing him the last key items for his new molecular disrupter cannon. Wildrider and his partner [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] broke into an optics laboratory and robbed a scientist of his experimental lenses for Megatron's weapon. Upon their escape, though, the Stunticons ran into [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], and [[Grapple]] blocking the road. Wildrider took the challenge and managed to just miss hitting the Autobots with his crazy driving, and dodge the missiles fired at him by Inferno. He tested his luck on a second drive-by, though, and was blasted into submission by Hoist. The Stunticons were all captured and imprisoned inside the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], while several Autobots employed camouflage paint to disguise themselves as the Stunticons, in a Trojan Horse ploy to find out what Megatron wanted with the components. The Autobot warrior [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] took Wildrider's place. After the Autobots took off, however, Breakdown managed to free his fellow Stunticons, and they all joined up to form Menasor, easily smashing through the remaining Autobots guarding them. As Menasor, they returned to Megatron and attempted to convince him they were the true Stunticons. Though ultimately successful, the Autobots had made alterations to the stolen components which caused Megatron's weapon to blow up in his face, and the Decepticons beat a hasty retreat. {{storylink|Masquerade}}

[[Image:BurdenHardesttoBear Stunticons Matrix.jpg|right|200px|thumb|And now I am Wildimus Prime!!]]
After their exile to [[Chaar]] in 2006, the Stunticons had been reduced to fighting over scraps of energon with the other Decepticons. When [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] returned with the [[Sweep]]s, Wildrider expressed the threat that they had better have brought some energon with them. When questioned by Dead End what he would do if they hadn't, Wildrider was at a loss. Nevertheless, he donated his share of energon to revive [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}} When the Quintessons arrived offering them energon in exchange for defeating the Autobots, Wildrider was among those Decepticons who were incredulous of the terms due to their weakened state, but signed on regardless. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}}

Later, Wildrider and Dead End got into a street race with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus Prime]] in [[Japan]], ultimately forcing him off the road. After the crash, the two Stunticons found the [[Matrix of Leadership]] had been blown clear by the impact, and Wildrider brought it back to his leader, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}}
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===Japanese cartoon continuity===
{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in this continuity as detailed above, except the events of 2006 are pushed back to 2010. Japanese continuity inserts several new stories into the resultant gaps in the timeline.}}

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic====
Wildrider and the Stunticons decided to have a little fun and tear up a baseball stadium in Japan. Luckily, the Autobots' plucky young ally [[Kenji]] was present to radio for assistance. All the combiner teams assembled, and it was Menasor and Bruticus against Superion and Defensor! Defensor was forced to break apart by the combined Decepticon attack, but Superion and Kenji got the idea to shoot out the Decepticons' legs. [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] and [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] took advantage of the empty combiner ports and took over as Menasor's legs, launching him into the ocean. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5}}

While posing as Autobots, Wildrider, [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] and the Stunticons rampaged through the city streets, smearing the good name of their adversaries. Later, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] posed as humans to rally people against the Autobots, and Motormaster's brigade staged an attack on the rally to drive the point home. The Autobot fire engines [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] arrived, however, and used their water hoses to wash off the Decepticons' fake insignia. Enraged, Motormaster planned to combine into Menasor...only to see Wildrider and the rest of his men were already retreating into the distance. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7}}

====''Scramble City'' cartoon====

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====''The Great Transformer War'' comic====

Galvatron kidnapped [[Doctor Dalton]] of [[Eran]] to upgrade the might of his combiner warriors. When the Autobot combiners arrived to save Dalton, Wildrider and his teammates were deployed at high speeds from Motormaster's launcher mode. They met Superion in mid-air, and the force of their deployment enabled the combiner teams to tear him apart. The Stunticons then merged into Menasor to move in for the kill. They were ultimately outwitted by the Autobots, however, who rescued Dalton and safely returned to Metroplex. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====

Wildrider fought the Autobots on Earth under [[Sixshot]]'s command. They tried to prevent Ultra Magnus's troops from reaching the Space Bridge, but failed. He and the Stunticons soon arrived on Cybertron to participate in Galvatron's siege. They managed to gain the high ground against the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s and [[Throttlebot]]s, and rained laser fire down on their opponents. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} Wildrider and his team formed Menasor to fight their Autobot counterparts, but were steamrolled by the might and firepower of the Battleship Maximus. Transporting back to Earth, they attempted to interfere with Hot Rod's quest for the Matrix. Wildrider and the Stunticons were confronted by the Aerialbots in the desert, but the battle of their combiner forms eventually led them to the Arctic. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}}

When [[Vector Sigma]] began perfecting the new super-metal [[Cybertonuron]] on Cybertron, Galvatron ordered another all-out attack on the planet to seize the metal for the Decepticons before the Autobots could make use of it. Wildrider and the Stunticons journeyed to Cybertron with the strike force, and confronted their old enemies, the Aerialbots. The Aerialbots got the drop on Wildrider's group by forming Superion and lashing out before the Stunticons could form Menasor as well. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Wildrider and the Stunticons were still in a firefight sometime later, as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] passed by looking for [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] and the Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]s. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}} In [[San Francisco]], Wildrider and the Stunticons assisted Bruticus in using a carnivorous plant to distract the Autobots from [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s plans on [[Zarak (planet)|Zarak]]. They fought against the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s and [[Computron (G1)|Computron]]. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}}

Sometime later, Wildrider and the Stunticons gathered in the desert as their Ninja Commander [[Sixshot]] began issuing orders. They assembled as Menasor, and took part in the escalating Decepticon war effort as five separate Autobot outposts were attacked simultaneously at Sixshot's command. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}}

====''Zone'' anime, manga and story pages====

Seeking to create a [[Decepticon Zone]] to counter the [[Micro|Autobot Zone]], [[Emperor of Destruction|Decepticon Emperor]] [[Violen Jiger]] gathered together the Nine Great Demon Generals, upgrading them with powerful new armor and weaponry, then sent them forth to conquer planets. Wildrider was among those summoned, but only as a part of Menasor. {{storylink|Zone (story page)|Zone Part 1}} {{storylink|Zone (manga)|Transformers: Zone}} {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
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====Marvel UK future timelines====
''In 2003, the Stunticons were recruited by [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] to steal some classified documents from the Autobots, about their upcoming plans for [[Autobot City]]. Wildrider and his cronies ran the courier, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], off the side of the road and beat him til he gave up the information. Then they beat up [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] because, well, it was fun. {{storylink|Ark Duty}}''

''In 2008, Wildrider was among the Decepticon soldiers aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] when [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] was leading them in an assault on [[Autobase (G1)|Autobase]]. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}''

====Earthforce====
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''Wildrider worked on Megatron's team when he and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] were vying for control of the Decepticons. He was seen at the [[Enclave]] before the fracas broke out. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}}''

''A poisoned [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] staggered into Wildrider's quarters, and gave him a tape of battle plans to transmit to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Wildrider assumed that Soundwave had been betrayed by traitors in Megatron's faction of Decepticons, and attempted to send the plans in secret. When [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] saw him doing so, however, he assumed that the Stunticon was trying to send them to his rival Shockwave, making him the traitor who had betrayed him to Shockwave earlier. With one blast from his [[fusion cannon]], Megatron promptly killed him. Which was exactly what Soundwave (who had not been poisoned and was, in fact, the traitor) had planned. Harsh. {{storylink|Secrets}}''

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
At some point in Cybertron's recent history, the Stunticons were deemed psychotic and too dangerous to function in society, and as a result were placed into perpetual stasis lock inside of a prison facility. Later, in an attempt to create a diversion while he set his final plans in motion, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arranged for the release of the Stunticons. They formed into Menasor and ran amuck for awhile, until [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and began insulting them. Unable to reconcile with this, the five Stunticons began to bicker with each other over whose fault it was that they were failing, temporarily stopping Menasor and allowing Ultra Magnus to ram the combiner in the chest, forcing him to separate into his component parts and disabling the Stunticons. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}}

===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers'' comics===
Wildrider, the other Stunticons and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] were sent to 1930s [[Chicago]] when [[Teletran 3]] malfunctioned, and were left dormant in the forms of cars from that time. They were soon found and used by a criminal gang led by [[Tommy Fingers]], until a group of [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] and [[Cobra]] members arrived from the future to retrieve the lost Transformers and prevent the apocalypse. Wildrider, Dead End and Drag Strip were awakened by Breakdown, who wasn't so dormant after all, and started chasing Optimus Prime and the humans across the city. Eventually the two groups ran into Motormaster, and everyone were promptly transported back to present-day Cybertron. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2}}

When [[Serpent O.R.]] started reunifying the Decepticons into his own army, Wildrider and the other Stunticons were among his earliest recruits. They helped capture a group of Autobots and Joes that followed Serpent O.R. to Cybertron, then attacked an Autobot peace ceremony in the form of Menasor. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3}} The giant used his Wildrider leg to stomp at least one innocent civilian to death. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4}}

===IDW comics continuity===
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[[Image:MegatronOrigin3 DeadEnd Wildrider.jpg|right|200px|thumb|An optimistic Dead End? A mellow Wildrider?! What is this, some kind of alternate universe?!]]
Wildrider was seen with other Stunticons entering the [[Kaon]] arena to join the newly-formed Decepticons for some good ol' fashioned civil disobedience. He also did us all a favor and told [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] to be quiet because, let's face it, a cheery and optimistic Dead End signals the coming of [[Unicron|the End of Days]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3}}

Millions of years later, Wildrider was among the Decepticons captured by [[Skywatch]] after the Stunticons were abandoned on Earth. Luckily for him, he was soon rescued by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]'s splinter faction of Autobots and Decepticons trying to get off the planet. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}}

Wildrider and [[Drag Strip]] went on a mission to retrieve [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], the only Stunticon missing from their group. They were disgusted to find that their comrade was being driven by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|a human]], and Wildrider rammed him, telling Drag Strip that they could always fix him later. They met with some resistance from the human, but eventually recovered Breakdown and took him back to base. A few hours later, the Stunticons revealed that [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] had given them the ability to combine, and attacked their former Autobot allies in the form of [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. {{storylink|Enemies of the System}}

{{spoiler|Earthworks|May 28}}

However, despite Menasor's power, his effectiveness as a warrior was stunted by the fact that his components kept arguing amongst themselves. The Autobots took note of this weakness and distracted the combiner by targeting the individual Stunticons, and eventually he was taken down by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. Like most of the Decepticons, Wildrider was taken into custody by Skywatch. {{storylink|Earthworks}}

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==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1Wildrider toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|If you don't buy this toy, then the terrorists have... lost, I guess?]]
*'''Wildrider''' (Stunticon, 1986)
**''Team ID number'': '''S3'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-53'''
**''Accessories'': "Scattershot gun", "plasma-energy blaster"

: Wildrider transforms into a dark grey Ferrari 308 GTB sports car. He comes with a large, black double-barreled "plasma-energy blaster" cannon that attaches onto the back of his vehicle mode.

: In robot mode, Wildrider is armed with a black "[[scatter blaster| scattershot gun]]" pistol. He usually forms Menasor's left leg, but as a [[Scramble City]] combiner limb, he can also occupy any other limb position.

*'''Menasor''' (Gift set, 1986)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-55'''

: Wildrider was also made available as part of a full Stunticon five-pack in the US, European and Japanese markets. All of the figures inside were identical to their individual releases.

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===Generation 2===
*'''Wildrider''' (Stunticon, Unreleased)
**''Team ID number:'' '''S5'''

[[Image:G2-Wildrider.jpg|right|thumb|Watch out! I'm bright!]]: For the [[Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' line]], Hasbro intended to release [[Redeco|redecoes]] of the Stunticons in 1994, with Wildrider being cast primarily in yellow plastic, with blue and black accents. Ultimately, however, the toys never went into mass poduction and remained officially unreleased. Only the four limbs are known to have made it to the sample packaging stage, having turned up in very limited numbers over the years (with the exception of ''Generation 2'' [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], who was available at [[BotCon 1994]] in somewhat larger quantities). All the ''Generation 2'' Stunticons are known to catch high prices on the secondary market.<ref>[http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Prototypes/Generation2/StuntsWilderiderProtoMOSC1.html Photos of Generation 2 Wildrider in sample packaging at Toyarchive.com]</ref><ref>[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/1533/Generation+2/Wildrider.html Mirrored photos of Generation 2 Wildrider in sample packaging at Transformers @ The Moon]</ref>

{{canceledtoy}}

===Gentei! Gentei!===
[[Image:Wildrider gentei.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Just give him the [[facial hair|goatee]] and have done with it, really.]]
*'''Stuntron Wildrider''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Rocket engine/missile launcher, flame missile

: An [[exclusive]] item from the "Chara Hobby 2008" show in Japan on August 30th, 2008, Wildrider is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Rodimus]] with a very vaguely Wildrider-inspired color scheme (but retaining all of ''[[Henkei]]'' Rodimus' [[paint applications]], including the flames), transforming into a Dome Zero concept car. His rear "thruster" fires a spring-loaded missile, and the back section can be flipped up to turn it into a roof-mounted weapon. The thruster becomes a hand-held blaster in robot mode, and can also be mounted on his back as a "jetpack". His left arm hides a flip-out (non-spinning) buzzsaw.

: This mold was also used to make the evil ''[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]].

{{note|"Gentei" is Japanese for "exclusive", and a pun on the normal "Henkei!" line-name.}}

==Trivia==
* In 2005, the mold used for ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese ''Binaltech'' line. Originally, Takara intended to name their version of the toy "Wildrider", possibly because the Hasbro version's deco resembled the unreleased G2 Wildrider toy's color scheme. However, Takara ultimately had to abandon that idea because they couldn't get the trademark. Instead, they decided to give the toy an entirely new deco, as the Hasbro toy's deco didn't appear to their ideal of "real-life accuracy". In robot mode, the toy was given a color scheme based on the Transmetal 2 incarnation of Beast Wars [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], with the toy's name being changed to "Black Widow", Takara's name for the character. Ultimately, however, Takara decided to cancel the toy altogether, as they were fearing that another redeco (in addition to the upcoming Binaltech Asterisk toys) would be too repetitive. Plans to release the toy as part of a different line were never picked up again.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/5d6d41f6d6b3f57e/ Doug Dlin relaying a response from Hirofimi Ichikawa regarding the fate of the Honda S2000 redeco at alt.toys.transformers]</ref> [[Arcee (G1)|Then they apparently changed their minds again.]]

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Wildrider/wildrider.htm Wildrider at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Wildrider Wildrider's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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==Aerialbots==
Are you sure they are dead because of Sixshot?([[User:MARV 2000|MARV 2000]] 23:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC))
:They were absolutely NOT killed by Sixshot. They were back up and fighting later on in the battle, and weren't defeated until Blast Off took down Silverbolt and declared "That's the last of the Aerialbots" in part three. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
::Am I misremembering something, or did Sureshot (or maybe Crosshairs?) always have red eyes throughout all three parts? I remembered some Autobot always had red eyes and it struck me as really random.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 05:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
:::That was Crosshairs. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 15:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

==Continuity errors?==
''Soooo.... why do the Autobots rush headlong to meet their attackers instead of [[The Transformers: The Movie|transforming the city to battle station mode]]?''
: It might have something to do with them shutting down Metroplex in TROOP.... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:24, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
::Maybe, maybe not. I've never really been clear on whether Rodimus was ''killing'' Metroplex ("I'm sorry, Metroplex... I ''have'' to do this.") or just turning him off ("One more button and Metroplex is '''safe'''!") At any rate, nobody mentions it onscreen either way. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

== Major problem ==

At the end of the race one of the transformers says that there theory was right that they would function better with human operators but they would have no where to go in robot mode but in the episode where some of the transformers were made into humans at least springer had a compartment in his body for humans to sit in and in the movie hot rod has one as well (I think) so why didn't they think of that?[[Special:Contributions/88.109.249.107|88.109.249.107]] 11:56, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

:Springer's chest compartment seems to be a rarity and more a by-product of his transformation than anything else. I can't recall Hot Rod having a compartment - he basically tosses Daniel in when transforming. Perhaps even Brainstorm couldn't get round an awkward gimmick imposed on the storyline. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 18:08, 31 October 2009 (EDT)

:I was always of the thinknig that the cockpit in Springer's chest was added after the Autobot was turned into a human... [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 01:49, 23 March 2010 (EDT)

The Rebirth, Part 1

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{{episode
|image=Rebirth 1 title shot.JPG
|caption="Guys, I'm serious, we need a water cooler in here to converse about." "Damn it, Goldbug, we're robots. We don't drink water."
|series=G1toon
|ep=96
|title="The Rebirth, Part 1"
|written by=[[David Wise]]
|animation studio=[[AKOM]]
|production code=6701-1
|airdate=[[November 9]], 1987
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''Galvatron invades Autobot City and then Cybertron with a plan to destroy the Autobots forever! This is something new?'''

:''Japanese title:'' ヘッドマスター誕生 (''Headmaster tanjō'', "The Headmasters Are Born")
:''German title:'' '''Die Wiedergeburt, Teil 1''' ("The Rebirth, Part 1")

==Synopsis==
[[Goldbug (G1)|Goldbug]] is talking with the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s at [[Autobot City]]. Things have been quiet for the [[Autobot]]s in the months since the return of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and the [[Hate Plague]] crisis. Not a word has been heard of the [[Decepticon]]s in months. Who knows where they are. The answer? Right at their doorstep. Meanwhile, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] walks into a room to find Optimus on his knees. Optimus claims that he has been having visions since he opened the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]], and it's something big. Goldbug informs Optimus of the approaching Decepticon force, and Optimus realizes that what ever he's been sensing, it's starting right now.

[[Image:Rebirth 1 Autobots Decepticons fight.JPG|left|200px|thumb|A truly epic battle.]]

Leading the Autobots out, the Decepticons attack. The Technobots and the [[Throttlebot]]s take point, but the Decepticons have gotten some new raw power in [[Apeface]] and [[Snapdragon]], while [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] has some fun with [[Lightspeed (Technobot)|Lightspeed]]. However, [[Punch (G1)|Punch]] sees [[Wingspan]] and [[Pounce]] enter into Autobot City. [[Transformation|Transforming]] into Counterpunch, he follows to check up on their progress, where he sees them steal something from the vaults. The Clones quickly dispatch Punch, and take their prize to [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]. Having claimed what they wanted, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] orders a retreat. Optimus, realizing this was a diversion, runs into Autobot City, finding Punch and the vault. Horrified, Optimus orders everyone to board the ships and head for [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

On Cybertron, [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] is racing with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], with [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]] riding in Hot Rod. Blurr, however, loses control, while Daniel shoots several Decepticon targets and wins the race. [[Brainstorm]] claims that this is evidence of his theory that human partners would be able to assist the Autobots in the war with the Decepticons. [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] and [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] are unsure of the idea. However, Optimus contacts the Autobots, telling them Galvatron stole the [[Key to the Plasma Energy Chamber|Key]] to the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]]. This was the forge which was used to create the bodies of the original Autobots. Since the [[Quintesson]] rebellion, the key has been in the safekeeping of the Autobot leaders, who have been tasked with guarding the key with their [[Spark|lives]]. However, Galvatron intends to open the chamber and destroy Cybertron. The Decepticons arrive, and chaos ensues. The [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] are quickly taken down by [[Sixshot]].

[[Image:Rebirth 1 Plasma energy Scourge.JPG|right|200px|thumb|Scourge never gets a break.]]

During the onslaught, Kup and Hot Rod's team notice Scourge heading for the Plasma Energy Chamber. They pursue in an attempt to stop him, but when Scourge opens the chamber, he is nearly killed, but Spike and Cerebros manages to grab the key. The Autobots' ship is hit by a wave of energy from the Plasma Energy Chamber. Their ship is hurled off Cybertron itself. Discovering Scourge, the Decepticons reactivate him. Scourge explains what happened, and a team under [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] heads out to find the Autobots with the key.

[[Image:Rebirth 1 Hive machines.JPG|left|200px|thumb|Oh, this is not going to end well...]]

Meanwhile, the Autobot ship crashes on Nebulon. With the engines fried, the Autobots and the Witwickys decide to look for civilization. They're soon spotted by [[Duros]] and [[Pinpointer (G1)|Pinpointer]], who assume the Autobots are machines controlled by the [[Hive (G1)|Hive]] and alert the rest of their resistance group. The group soon captures the Autobots, and plans to destroy the Autobots with magnetic bombs, even though Spike tries to talk them down. However, the Decepticons show up. Spike finally convinces the Nebulons to release the Autobots. In the subsequent battle, Daniel is injured by Snapdragon, and Hot Rod, Kup, Blurr, [[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]], and [[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] are taken captive. Some of the Autobots pursue them into the forest, but are quickly driven off by machines.

[[Image:Rebirth 1 Autobot heads.JPG|right|200px|thumb|"This will haunt me until the day I die..."]]

Back at the cave, [[Arcana]] and [[Firebolt]] manage to stabilise Daniel's condition, but the boy will have to be connected to life-support machinery. The Nebulan leader [[Gort]] explains that the Hive is a tyrannical group of telekinetics who have used machines to enslave Nebulon. The resistance members know the weak points of the machines, but they just don't have the firepower. Spike thinks that Brainstorm's idea of organic partners just might be the ticket. The Autobots agree to allow the Nebulons to use their heads as suits, except for Cerebros, who walks out, tired of fighting. [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] asks to be Daniel's partner, and Spike agrees. As they remove their heads, Spike declares that they are about to become [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]].

[[The Rebirth, Part 2|To be continued...]]

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==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
* [[Strafe (G1)|Strafe]] (1)
* [[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]] (2)
* [[Lightspeed (Technobot)|Lightspeed]] (3)
* [[Scattershot]] (4)
* [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (5)
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (6)
* [[Afterburner (G1)|Afterburner]] (7)
* [[Nosecone (G1)|Nosecone]] (8)
* [[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]] (9)
* [[Wide Load]] (10)
* [[Searchlight (G1)|Searchlight]] (11)
* [[Chase (G1)|Chase]] (12)
* [[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]] (13)
* [[Punch (G1)|Punch]] (27)
* [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]] (33)
* [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] (34)
* [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] (37)
* [[Pointblank]] (38)
* [[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] (39)
* [[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]] (40)
* [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] (41)
* [[Brainstorm]] (42)
* [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] (43)
* [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]] (44)
* [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] (45)
* [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] (46)
* [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (52)
* [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (53)
* [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (54)
* [[Slingshot]] (55)
* [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (56)
* [[Fastlane]] (60)
* [[Cloudraker (G1)|Cloudraker]] (61)

|c2=
* [[Apeface]] (14)
* [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] (15)
* [[Skullcruncher]] (16)
* [[Snapdragon]] (17)
* [[Weirdwolf]] (18)
* [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] (19)
* [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (20)
* [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] (21)
* [[Sweeps]] (22)
* [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] (23)
* [[Misfire]] (24)
* [[Wingspan]] (25)
* [[Pounce]] (26)
* [[Punch (G1)|Counterpunch]] (28)
* [[Sinnertwin (G1)|Sinnertwin]] (29)
* [[Rippersnapper (G1)|Rippersnapper]] (30)
* [[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]] (31)
* [[Blot (G1)|Blot]] (32)
* [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] (47)
* [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (48)
* [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] (49)
* [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] (50)
* [[Mixmaster (G1)|Mixmaster]] (51)
* [[Sixshot]] (57)
* [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]] (58)
* [[Triggerhappy]] (59)

|c3=
* [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]] (35)
* [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] (36)

|c4=
* [[Gort]] (62)
* [[Duros]] (63)
* [[Stylor]] (64)
* [[Arcana]] (65)
* [[Pinpointer (G1)|Pinpointer]] (66)
* [[Firebolt]] (67)
* [[Recoil]] (68)
* [[Haywire]] (69)
* [[Peacemaker]] (70)
* [[Spoilsport]] (71)
}}

==Quotes==
'''Wingspan:''' "Beat it, Counterpunch! We don't need your help!" 
'''Counterpunch:''' "Fine. ''You'' deal with my Autobot counterpart. I've heard he's nearby." 
''[ducks around the corner, transforms to Punch]'' 
'''Punch:''' "...''Real'' nearby."
:—Punch, master of subtle hints, utters a classic line.

'''Kup''': It might give us the edge if the Decepticons ''did'' return. 
'''Crosshairs''': That's not gonna happen! 
'''Optimus''': Kup! Highbrow! The Decepticons are heading your way! 
'''Kup''': How many of 'em, Prime? 
'''Optimus''': ''All'' of them! 
'''Crosshairs''': 'Course, I ''have'' been wrong on one or two occasions.
:—Crosshairs ''really'' needs to think before he speaks.

"Sixshot, show them what a one-robot army is!"
:—'''Galvatron''' prompts Sixshot to do the old sell-my-toy routine.

"I suppose it's the only meritorious way out of our meretricious situation." 
"Yeah, me too. Like he said."
:—'''Highbrow''' and '''Hardhead''' on becoming Headmasters.

"My one wish... is to ''never'' fight again."
:—'''Cerebros''', so pacifistic he won't even fight to help his friends.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical glitches===
* Daniel is gnawed and thrown around by Snapdragon, and yet, his uniform remains squeaky clean and show no signs of damage despite Daniel's injuries being described as 'severe'. That must be some tough fabric they use in the future.

===Continuity errors===
* Goldbug and the Technobots reminisce about all the "loose parts" knocked from the Decepticons after Optimus Prime was resurrected. When did that happen, exactly?
* Scattershot claims there's "about a hundred" Decepticons heading towards Autobot City, but the attacking force shown on-screen is barely a quarter of that number.
* The outside of the city is already smoking (burning?) before the Decepticons start their attack or fire a single shot.
* Soooo.... why do the Autobots rush headlong to meet their attackers instead of [[The Transformers: The Movie|transforming the city to battle station mode]]?
*An Autobot approaches Brainstorm and co on Cybertron, asking what the discussion is about. His design is that of one of the Targetmaster weapons, who have not yet been created.
* When the Autobots first met the Nebulans (only to get captured by them), why didn't they use the universal greeting? Perhaps the 'Universal Greeting' is only universally recognised by all mechanical lifeforms, and just gibberish to an organic lifeform like a Nebulan. Like a type of computer code. :)

===Transformers references===
* This episode takes place several months after "[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2]]".
* While discussing the Headmaster creation procedure with Chromedome, Brainstorm mentions that it's possible for a Transformer to "download (their memories and personalities) into the auxiliary memory circuits in their chests". Assuming that the aforementioned hardware is a standard feature in all Transformers, it might explain why [[Death|death is just a wee bit inconsistent in fiction]]. Not bad for a throwaway line!

===Miscellaneous trivia===
[[Image:Rebirth1 Hardhead and Blurr.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"Ssh, ssh, ssh. Its alright. Don't struggle. Walk into the light."]]
* "The Rebirth, Part 1", was to be the fourth season premiere, but due to declining interest, it simply was the first of the three final episodes (originally conceived as a ''five''-part story), in which a slew of new characters and concepts were introduced, most notably the US animated version of the Headmasters.
* All these years of Blurr babbling when he panics...and ''Hardhead'' is the only one who thinks to cover his mouth?
* Then again, the animation makes it look like Hardhead is sweeping Blurr off his feet in a passionate French kiss instead of throttling him into silence, so who knows what's really going on?
* Okay. Whose bright idea was it to give Daniel a gun?
*The Japanese dub of all three episodes of "The Rebirth" were released exclusively on laser disk by [[Pioneer]] (and later on DVD as part of their ''[[Transformers 2010 (franchise)|Transformers 2010]]'' box set). The dub for these episodes is unusual in that it primarily features Western names for characters rather than Japanese-exclusive ones. For instance, [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] is referred to by his Western name rather than "Hot Rodimus", [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] is not called "Char" and so on. Some Japanese names are retained, such as [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] being called "Convoy". Even stranger, aside from several primary characters, nearly all the voices are different from the usual Japanese cast.

==Home video releases==
{{note|All releases listed are in English audio unless otherwise noted.}}
;VHS
*1987 — ''Transformers'' — Die Wiedergeburt (Erster Teil) ([[Polyband]]) — German audio only.
*1988 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters: The Rebirth (Parts, 1, 2 & 3) ([[Tempo Video]])
*1989 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters / The Return of Optimus Prime (Tempo Video)
*1991 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters / The Return of Optimus Prime / Cosmic Rust (Tempo Video)
*1998 — ''The Transformers: Generation 2'' — Rebirth: The Movie ([[Malofilm|Behaviour Entertainment]])
*2001 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Heroes: The Rebirth ([[The Original Transformers|Kid Rhino]])
;Laserdisc
*1999 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — English and Japanese audio.
;DVD
*2001 — ''The Transformers: 2010'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — English and Japanese audio.
*2001 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Heroes: The Rebirth ([[The Original Transformers|Kid Rhino]])
*2002 — ''Transformers'' — Complete Original Series: Deluxe Edition ([[Maverick Entertainment|Sony Wonder]])
*2002 — ''Transformers'' — The Rebirth: Parts 1-3 (Sony Wonder)
*2004 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 3 Part 2 & Season 4 (Kid Rhino)
*2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 3 and Season 4 ([[Metrodome]])
*2005 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 6: Series 4 ([[Madman Entertainment]])
*2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome)
*2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)
*2008 — ''Transformers'' — Volume 08: Stagione Tre Parte Seconda e Stagione Quattro ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio.
*2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season's Three & Four {{sic}} (Metrodome)
*2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment)
*2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]])
*2010 — ''The Transformers'' — Seasons Three & Four: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory)

==External link==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/synopses/the_rebirth_part_1.html Dossier at the Cybertron Chronicle]

{{DEFAULTSORT:Rebirth, Part 1}}
[[Category:Generation 1 episodes]]

Pretender

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Kayb: /* Generation 1 (US) */

{{picsneeded|Screen captures from TV commercial (muscle guys)}}

{{bigquote|Pretenders hide the Transformers inside.|Pretenders subline tag}}

[[Image:Skullgrin-packageart.jpg|right|350px|thumb|We don't know exactly how this works, and the artist probably didn't either, but it sure does look cool!]]

Disguise has always been a key component of Transformer operations on other worlds. '''Pretenders''' attempt to take this concept to the next level. Pretenders are Transformers fitted with special external armor shells that can disguise their very nature as robots. Rather than hiding themselves as the machinery or vehicles of a world, Pretender Shells allow a robot to take on the appearance of a native life form itself.

On top of its exploration and infiltration uses, a shell can also function as powerful battle armor, aid in self-repair, and even function independently of its robot as a second combatant mentally controlled by its "wearer". The major drawback of the technology is that the core robot will feel whatever pain is inflicted on the shell, sometimes even more strongly than pain inflicted on the robot itself.

The most common style of Pretender is an inner robot with a single humanoid shell (usually resembling a monster for [[Decepticon]]s or a [[human]] in battle armor for [[Autobot]]s).

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Scorponokpretendertothethrone.jpg|left|250px|thumb|What a pervert.]]

Pretender technology was created by Scorponok and [[Zarak (Nebulan)|Lord Zarak]] to help their troops operate quasi-anonymously on an Earth that had become openly and publicly hostile towards giant alien robots (partially due to the influence of the [[Z Foundation]]). The idea was that giant, organic-looking alien monsters would somehow attract less attention. Strangely enough, he was [[Monstercon from Mars!|right]].
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{{note|Despite Scorponok and Zarak's claims, subsequent stories showed [[Longtooth]] and [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] using Pretender technology long ago in [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]'s past.}}

[[Image:Pretendertothethrone-landmine.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Sproing!]]
This technology was stolen by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] (at the time reduced to a computerized personality) and replicated by the Autobots. The Autobots fashioned their shells after humans, with the stated rationalization that the Decepticons were rather unobservant and wouldn't notice that these humans were many stories tall. Just as strangely, they were also right. The attacking Decepticon Pretenders, encased in their giant, fleshy monster shells, were shocked when the giant, fleshy humans turned out to have Autobots inside them. {{storylink|Pretender to the Throne!}}

[[Image:SkullgrinMonconMars.jpg|left|200px|thumb|When the star wants a "tall latte", he means TALL.]]
Pretender technology allowed Skullgrin to become first a rural legend, then a movie star. Sent to Earth to establish a fuel depot while hidden in his outer shell, he attracted the attention of a B-movie producer, who wrote him into the script of his latest feature. The giant devil-goat monster became a nationwide phenomenon. When Skullgrin revealed his true robotic nature to one of his human co-stars, however, he drew the ire of [[Circuit Breaker]], an encounter which may have ended his movie career. {{storylink|Monstercon from Mars!}}

During the [[Underbase Saga]], the quasi-flesh nature of the Pretenders' outer shells saved them from the energy blasts of the [[Underbase]]-possessed Starscream, even as innumerable Autobots and Decepticons were being destroyed around them. {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}}

''Pretender shells were considered a sufficiently valuable resource that Scorponok was able to offer the technology to Carnivac and Snarler as payment for an assassination job.'' {{storylink|Survivors!}} The job didn't go so well; even two shell-equipped Decepticons weren't enough to defeat Fortress Maximus. {{storylink|The Man in the Machine!}}

[[Image:Nomates.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"No, no, my shell isn't that well-equipped!"]]
The Autobots Landmine and Cloudburst were able to make good use of their Pretender shells while on a mission to acquire spare parts for their fallen comrades. Traveling to a space station where giant humans were common but robots were unwelcome, they were able to bargain for microchips without tipping off their robotic natures. Later, when faced with seeing fellow Autobot Sky Lynx devoured by the [[Mecannibal]]s, Landmine's robot form was able to attack, free Sky Lynx, and then disappear by hiding inside his own shell. The entire scheme would have gone without a hitch if not for a tip-off from [[Hi-Test]] and [[Throttle (G1)|Throttle]], alerting the Mecannibals that the two giant "humans" were in fact robots. {{storylink|Guess Who the Mecannibals Are Having for Dinner?}}

[[Image:Resurrectiongambit-starscreamrevival.jpg|left|150px|thumb|]]
After bargaining their way free from the Mecannibals, Landmine and Cloudburst continued to make use of their shells, negotiating with the inhabitants of the planet [[Femax]], who also just happened to be giant humans. Cloudburst almost got to experience a little giant human nookie, before revealing to the Femaxians' [[First One]] that he was a robot, and therefore not a particularly desirable mate. {{storylink|Recipe for Disaster!}}

Pretender technology showed another face when Megatron returned to power. New shells he had developed would repair and restore even the most severely damaged robots. {{storylink|The Resurrection Gambit!}} Ratchet was compelled to resurrect Starscream with this technology, but also managed to bring back Grimlock, Jazz and Bumblebee; all four now had their own Pretender shells. These new shells not only enabled disguise, but also served as great power-boosting enhancements for their wearers and allowed them to fight in two places at once. {{storylink|All the Familiar Faces!}}

''Thunderwing had his mechanical Pretender shell eons ago on Cybertron, indicating that some form of the technology predated Scorponok's use of it.'' {{storylink|The Magnificent Six!}} ''Thunderwing mostly remained inside his shell, only emerging on rare occasions.'' {{storylink|The Big Shutdown!}}

[[Image:Slog-rhythmsofdarkness1.jpg|right|200px|thumb|An adorable minion of evil.]]
''Carnivac, meanwhile, used his shell in his initial solo assault on the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]. When he was caught off guard, outnumbered and nearly surrounded, he sent the shell on a suicide run, allowing it to be destroyed.'' {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}} ''Though the feedback nearly killed him, the ruse worked, and his pursuers believed him to be dead, allowing him to regain the element of surprise.'' {{storylink|Where Wolf?}}

In an alternate future where Galvatron had triumphed, Pretender technology was still in use by his troops, the [[Pretender Monster]]s. These Pretenders could apparently somehow phase through their shells, without the shells having to split open like most others. {{storylink|Rhythms of Darkness!}}
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===Japanese cartoon continuity===
{{cleanup|January 2009|}}

====''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon====
[[Image:ProtecttheWildAnimals Autobot Pretenders human.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]
Eight thousand years ago, a starship containing the Autobot Pretenders [[Metalhawk]], [[Lander]], [[Diver (Masterforce)|Diver]] and [[Phoenix]] pursued the Decepticon Pretenders [[Blood]], [[Dauros]] and [[Gilmer]] to neolithic-era [[Earth]], where they crashed. Using their Pretender abilities, the Autobots adopted the form of humans. They transformed the very structure of their bodies into an organic equivalent, shrinking down to normal human size to hide in plain sight among burgeoning Humanity. A Pretender could transform from a human in two stages. If he touched his left wrist with his right hand and yelled "suit on!" a battle suit would form over his human form, leaving only his head visible (at which point he resembled his toy's Pretender shell). If he touched his left wrist and yelled "Pretender!" he would morph and [[size changing|size-change]] into a Transformer (the toy's inner-robot).

A Pretender could become trapped in his human form if his arms are forcibly held apart so he could not touch his wrists. {{storylink|Heroism!! The Birth of Super Ginrai}}

The Decepticon Pretenders, on the other hand, adopted the forms of monstrous creatures, becoming feared as demons by early Man. After many battles, the Autobots succeeded in defeating their enemies and sealing them away—Blood in the pyramids of Egypt, Gilmer in the ruins of [[Atlantis]], and Dauros beneath the Nazca Lines in Peru—for thousands of years.

Liberated in the near future by the mysterious Decepticon "god", [[Devil Z]], the three Pretenders entered his service and immediately began to draw the Autobot Pretenders out of hiding, before turning their attention to a series of plans to acquire energy and to disrupt one of the three [[Chōkon Power]]s on Earth. After a string of failures, Devil Z supplanted them with his more powerful Godmaster minions, and although they would often participate in missions, their standing was downgraded and their regularity of appearance on the battlefield diminished. Eventually, they generally only served to supply comic relief, and they departed Earth with the other surviving Decepticons when Devil Z was destroyed.

Along the way, the Autobots had been joined by [[Grand Maximus]], who was not only a Pretender, but a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] as well.

====''Victory'' cartoon====
Pretender technology had advanced to the point that the shells gained sentience, as seen in the shells of the [[Dinoforce]], and could be employed simultaneously with the Transformers' robot modes.

===Dreamwave comics continuity===
Pretender technology was originally developed as a form of additional body armour. Pretender shells could enhance their wearer’s physical strength and resistance to damage. More advanced shell designs could shrink down to human size and enable their wearer to blend into Earth society unnoticed.

It is possible that the Pretender technology was later adapted to develop the [[Maximal]] and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] beast modes.

{{note|Pretenders were only depicted in [[Dreamwave Productions]]'s ''[[More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|Transformers: More Than Meets The Eye]]'' profile books and did not appear in the actual storylines.}}

===IDW comics continuity===
{{ongoing}}
[[Image:Thunderwing stormbringer.jpg|left|150px|thumb|It's just not natural, I tell you!]]

The technology was the invention of the Decepticon [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] and used living tissue painfully culled from live (and quite likely unwilling) subjects to create a powerful symbiotic, living carapace. The goal of this technology was to allow Transformers to survive an impending environmental collapse on their home planet, [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Even [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] rejected the concept as unnatural and repulsive. The first experiences were not that encouraging. Both cases where the technology was implemented ended in disaster, as the melding of the robot's mind with the shell was improperly aligned or hastily executed. Subject one, Thunderwing, became unfathomably powerful but totally insane and destructive, ultimately rendering Cybertron too hostile for Transformer habitation. Subject two, [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]], tried to rush the process and ended up comatose inside his new shell. {{storylink|Stormbringer (comics)|Stormbringer}}

Surprisingly, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]], formerly aghast at the details of what the process entailed, decided that they needed the technology to penetrate the portal at the [[Benzuli Expanse]]. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] was a little hesitant on the subject, but Jetfire managed to convince the [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]]. The Autobots selected for the process were [[Cloudburst]], [[Landmine (G1)|Landmine]], [[Groundbreaker]], and [[Waverider]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Hardhead}}

[[Image:IDWAutobotPretenders.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Robots wearing space suits?]]
After a long process {{storylink|Spotlight: Doubledealer}}, the Technobots finally completed the four shells. Unlike the hideous and pseudo-organic look of Thunderwing and Bludgeon, these shells were simply large, bulky armor suits. Suiting up, Cloudburst's team were able to fight off a raging [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and took the [[Nega-Core]]s through the Expanse into the [[Dead Universe]] for disposal. The shells proved effective in combating the deadly energies of the dimension, protecting the Cybertronians within. However it was apparent that they could only do so for a limited amount of time under such harsh conditions. {{storylink|Spotlight: Sideswipe}}

Later, [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] ordered that Jetfire's research be taken to the [[Kimia Facility]] where the scientists there (along with [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]) were able to create a new body for [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], whose former body hadn't been upgraded in so long that it was incompatible with current tech. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 15|Lost & Found}}

{{note|The term "Pretender" is not used at all during the ''Stormbringer'' series. Instead the term "polydermal grafting" is used to further illustrate how repulsive, grotesque and dangerous the process appears to be.}}
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===Timelines===
[[Black Shadow]] made good use of his Pretender-style [[Crossformer]] shell, which allowed him to simultaneously pursue [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]] and [[Jackpot]] even as they fled in opposite directions. Rather than requiring him to operate it remotely and divide his attention, the entirely robotic shell was equipped with an artificial intelligence which allowed it to function independently, if a bit stiltedly. When Black Shadow's robot form was destroyed, the shell also ceased to function - though this may have been the work of a saboteur, rather than a feature endemic to the shell. {{storylink|Gone Too Far}}

===Shattered Glass===
[[Goldbug (SG)|Goldbug]], [[Grimlock (SG)|Grimlock]], and [[Jazz (SG)|Jazz]] snuck into a Pretender laboratory. There were at least six Pretender shells, including the four [[Classic Pretender]] Shells and two [[:Image:DoublePretenders.jpg|Double Pretender]] Shells.

Also, [[Dirge (SG)|Dirge]] appeared as a Pretender. {{storylink|Shattered Expectations}}

===Revenge of the Fallen===

[[Alice]] tried to get information from [[Sam Witwicky]] by getting close to him, but later she revealed her true nature as a Pretender.

{{note|Alice was not a traditional Pretender in that she transformed into an "organic" humanoid mode instead of having an outer shell. The confirmation of her as a Pretender came from an interview with [[Roberto Orci]].<ref>[http://au.movies.ign.com/articles/944/944836p1.html Transformers 2 Rumor Confirmed]</ref>}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1 (US)===
[[Image:G1Finback toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Finback]]
[[Image:G1Splashdown toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Splashdown]]
*'''Pretenders''' (1988)
{{collist|2|
:*[[Bomb-Burst]]
:*[[Bugly]]
:*[[Cloudburst]]
:*[[Finback]]
:*[[Groundbreaker]]
:*[[Iguanus (G1)|Iguanus]]
:*[[Landmine (G1)|Landmine]]
:*[[Skullgrin]]
:*[[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]]
:*[[Splashdown]]
:*[[Submarauder (G1)|Submarauder]]
:*[[Waverider]]
}}
: The basic Pretenders (often called the "large Pretenders" to distinguish them from the smaller toys released in 1989) are the default: a single robot with a single humanoid shell. The shells split into front and back halves. All are essentially statues, articulated only at the shoulder with swivel joints. The inner robots, by comparison, tend to be highly articulated for their time, though they are generally thin-limbed and have simplistic transformations.

: The large Pretenders were released in two [[wave]]s (Cloudburst, Landmine, Waverider, Bomb-Burst, Skullgrin, and Submarauder making up the first wave, and the remainder the second). Each wave consists of an air, sea, and land themed character for each faction. There is a distinct design variation noticeable between the first and second wave Autobot Pretenders. The first wave shells feature a largely single-color "space suit" style design with the "human" heads partially concealed by the suits. The second wave had brighter, more "Power Ranger"-ish, armor suits with large animal-themed chest plates and fully-visible "human" heads.

: The second wave in general appears to have had production problems or delays; the initial 1988 catalogs omitted their photographs, showing only a "COMING SOON" silhouette (though common in Kenner's Star Wars toyline, such an unfinished "preview" was rare for Transformers); additionally, several of these toys have minor engineering problems, in the form of limbs which don't fold away completely in vehicle mode.

: The first wave of these toys was released in Japan with new names and characterizations, but otherwise unaltered. The second were never sold there.
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[[Image:G1 Chainclaw toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Chainclaw]]
*'''Pretender Beasts''' (1988)
**[[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]]
**[[Catilla]]
**[[Chainclaw]]
**[[Snarler]]
{{main|Pretender Beast}}
: The Pretender Beasts are Pretenders with quadrupedal Earth animal-based shells.
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[[Image:G1 Gunrunner toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Gunrunner]]
*'''Pretender Vehicles''' (1988)
**[[Gunrunner (G1)|Gunrunner]]
**[[Roadgrabber]]
{{main|Pretender Vehicle}}
: The Pretender Vehicles are Pretenders whose shells are vehicles that transform into combat decks for their inner robots.
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[[Image:G1Longtooth toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Longtooth]]
*'''Pretenders''' (1989)
**[[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]
**[[Doubleheader]]
**[[Longtooth]]
**[[Octopunch]]
**[[Pincher]]
**[[Stranglehold]]
: The 1989 Pretenders (often called the "small Pretenders") were sold carded. Like their larger 1988 brethren, the shells are articulated only at the shoulder and split front-back. Their inner robots are much more thick-limbed than the large Pretenders; they are also small, about the same size as the [[Mini Vehicle]]s. A portion of each robot's alternate mode detaches and serves as a weapon or shield for the outer shell, rather than being concealed within. There has been some speculation that the designs for Longtooth and Stranglehold may have been switched between factions at some point, as the former better fits the Decepticon monster motif and the latter better matches the Autobots "human" stylings.
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[[Image:Pretender Grimlock toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Grimlock]]
*'''Pretender Classics''' (1989)
**[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]
**[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]
**[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]]
**[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]
{{main|Pretender Classics}}
:Classic Pretenders are smaller-sized figures of 1984-85 characters, the first subline to focus on reinventing previous characters. The inner robots were also released without their shells as Kmart exclusive [[Legends (G1)|Legends]].
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[[Image:G1Thunderwing toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Thunderwing]]
*'''Mega Pretenders''' (1989)
**[[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]]
**[[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]
**[[Vroom]]
{{main|Mega Pretender}}
: Both the inner robot and the humanoid shell of the Mega Pretenders transform and can combine their alternate modes into a larger vehicle.
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[[Image:G1 Skyhammer toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Skyhammer]]
* '''Ultra Pretenders''' (1989)
**[[Roadblock (G1)|Roadblock]]
**[[Skyhammer (G1)|Skyhammer]]
{{main|Ultra Pretender}}
: The Ultra Pretenders have two Pretender shells. The outermost shell is a large vehicle that can transform into a combat deck for the inner robot. This outermost shell contains a secondary, humanoid Pretender shell that is itself able to transform into a vehicle that can be piloted by its inner robot.
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[[Image:Birdbrain-toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Birdbrain]]
[[Image:Slog-toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Slog]]
*'''Pretender Monsters''' (1989)
**[[Birdbrain]]
**[[Bristleback]]
**[[Icepick]]
**[[Scowl]]
**[[Slog]]
**[[Wildfly]]
{{main|Pretender Monster}}
: The Pretender Monsters are smaller Pretenders with rubbery monster shells. Their inner robots can combine to form [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]].
{{-}}{{anchor|Double Pretenders (unreleased)}}
[[Image:DoublePretenders2.png|right|200px|thumb|...Tarantulas? Optimus Primal?]]
*'''Double Pretenders'''
**Unnamed ape duo.
**Unnamed spider-bandito duo.
: Prototypes for "Double Pretenders", two small robots in one shell, which splits top and bottom at the waist, were designed but never put in production.
{{canceledtoy}}
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===Generation 1 (Japan)===
[[Image:MF-toy Metalhawk.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Metalhawk]]
*'''Pretenders''' (1988)
**[[Blood]]
**[[Dauros]]
**[[Diver (Masterforce)|Diver]]
**[[Gilmer]]
**[[Grand Maximus|Grand]]
**[[Lander]]
**[[Metalhawk]]
**[[Phoenix]]
:The bulk of the Japanese Pretenders are exactly the same as their US counterparts. Metalhawk was an entirely new mold, however, and Grand featured a new-mold Pretender shell designed to hold the existing [[Cerebros (G1)|Cerebros]] mold.
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[[Image:G1Blue Bacchus toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Blue Bacchus. Not to be confused with Violet Vulcan, Silver Saturn, Cyan Cupid, etc...]]
*'''Crossformers''' (1989)
**[[Black Shadow]]
**[[Blue Bacchus]]
{{main|Crossformer}}
: The Crossformers are the Takara counterpart to the Hasbro Mega Pretenders; the shells were remolded to be less organic.
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*'''Dinoforce''' (1989)
**[[Doryū]]
**[[Gairyū]]
**[[Gōryū]]
**[[Kakuryū]]
**[[Rairyū]]
**[[Yokuryū]]
{{main|Dinoforce}}
: The Dinoforce reuses the inner robot forms of the Pretender Monsters, but with cyborg dinosaur outer shells. The inner robots can combine to form [[Dinoking]].

==Notes==
[[Image:TwinTwistPretenderConcept.jpg|right|150px|thumb|..."Drillrider" just didn't sound right.]]
* Despite the fact that nearly all of the toys split front/back, most Marvel Comics portrayals of the Pretenders show the shells splitting down the middle.
* ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide]]'' categorizes humanoid Pretender shells into three types: Human shells with thermostatic plating such as Cloudburst's are "Space-Defense Pretender Shells"; monstrous humanoid shells like Bomb-Burst's are called "Predator-Class Pretender Shells"; and shells like Bludgeon's are "Warrior-Grade Pretender Shells".
* [[Twin Twist]] has been found in a piece of Pretender concept art, which was likely used to pitch the Pretender toy concept. Given that a large number of the first Pretenders transform similarly to Twin Twist, (bend over at the waist) it seems to have been a successful conceptual model.
* In most parts of Europe, the second wave of the large 1988 Pretenders was never released.
* Not to be confused with [[reverse-pretender technology]], where a Human disguises himself as a Transformer.

==External links==
*[http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Prototypes/PretendersDoubleBC96Displ.html Some photos] of unreleased Double Pretenders from [http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Prototypes/Prototypes.html SUPER TOY ARCHIVE]

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:Gimmicks]]
[[Category:Pretenders| ]]
[[Category:Subgroups]]

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I've had these pics on my hard drive for a number of years, I have no idea where I got them from. If anyone knows there they may have come from please let me know so I can edit the description accordingly. [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 02:43, 10 March 2010 (EST)

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Kayb: Unreleased spider and gorilla Double Pretenders. Source unknown.

Unreleased spider and gorilla Double Pretenders. Source unknown.

Galvatron (G1)/toys

2010-03-02T12:43:42Z

Kayb: /* Generation 2 */

Toys of a Galvatronic nature.

See also [[Megatron (G1)/toys]] and [[Galvatron II#Toys]].

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1 Galvatron toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Nobody minds ''his'' [[neon]] orange barrel.]]
* '''Galvatron''' (Decepticon, 1986/1987)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-62'''
**''Accessories:'' Laser Rifle, Particle Cannon, Particle Cannon connector

: Galvatron transforms into a Cybertronic treaded field artillery unit with an alternate hand-held gun mode. Using a 9-volt battery, he has a light-up barrel in cannon or gun mode, light-up eyes in robot mode, and variable electronic warbly noises in any mode. Galvatron is notable as one of the most well-articulated toys in the ''Generation 1'' line, with ratcheting shoulders and hips, as well as swivel waist, elbows, mid-biceps, knees, and ankle joints. He was also armed with a small, black laser rifle.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Galvatron/galvatron.htm More information on Galvatron at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:G1 Reissue Galvatron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|WHO CHANGED MY COLORS?! NGAAAAA!!!!]]
* '''Galvatron''' (Decepticon, 2005)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-62-S'''
**''Accessories:'' Laser Rifle, Particle Cannon, Particle Cannon connector, Mini Matrix necklace.

: The original Galvatron toy was much later [[Redeco|redecoed]] and re-released by [[Takara]] into a sort-of more show-like appearance, being primarily purple instead of gray. His face mold was also slightly [[Retool|retooled]], and he was given new sound effects, including speech clips (in Japanese, naturally). He also came with a Matrix on a chain to be worn around his neck, as in the movie. It also used two AA batteries, rather than the previous 9-volt.

: This version of the mold was later redecoed into the original toy's colors for the [[e-Hobby]]-exclusive [[Galvatron II]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Destron/Galvatron/galvatron.htm More information on Reissue Galvatron at TFU.info]''

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===Universe (2008)===
====Classic Series====
[[Image:Galvatronuniversetoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|And there... on the shoulder... was a HOOK!]]
*'''Galvatron''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:Galvatron transforms into a tank reminiscent of the [http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/merkava.htm Israel Weapons Industries Merkava] main battle tank. The tank shows very little purple on its hull, presumably to keep it a reasonably realistic representation of a real-life tank. The tank likewise has a giant translucent orange laser cannon that can fire a translucent orange missile, also keeping in the spirit of realistic alt-modes. Upon transforming to robot mode, it looks much more like the violently insane Decepticon leader we all know and love, and shows larger areas of metallic purple. Oddly enough, the vehicle mode's wheels are molded in the same translucent orange as the cannon, and then painted over with ''a different shade of orange''. On the tank turret is the slogan "GALV-25", in reference to the [[franchise]]'s 25th anniversary.

:This toy has many undocumented features in the form of small moving parts that play no role in transformation or either mode; most conspicuous are two articulated feet for the tank mode. In one of the [[Hasbro Q&A]] sessions, it was confirmed that these are remnants of an early design version of Galvatron, which would have been at a larger size class and [http://www.toymania.com/news/messages/10873.shtml featured a third mode as a "walking tank."] It is still possible to manipulate his parts into a mode greatly resembling the original concept design.

:Galvatron's transformation is almost insanely complex for a deluxe figure. Expect his arms and legs to pop off regularly during transformation. The arm with the cannon on it is known to pop off realy easy, but is mind-numbingly hard to get back on.

:Hasbro's photo advertising for this figure depicts it in a pose that it cannot actually assume.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/TFUGalvatron/galvatron.htm ''More information on ''Universe'' Galvatron at TFU.info'']

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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[Image:Henkei Galvatron toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|About ten years too late to be the No Limit Records logo.]]
*'''Galvatron''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-06'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:''Henkei! Henkei!'' Galvatron is a redeco of ''Universe'' Galvatron. As with all ''Henkei'' releases, TakaraTomy have attempted to make the toy better resemble his cartoon counterpart, so most of the bright orange plastic from the ''Universe'' toy is now black. The shade of purple used on ''Henkei'' Galvatron is the lighter, lavender shade commonly seen on Takara's Galvatron toys, rather than the deeper purple seen on Hasbro's Galvatron toys. The gray is also lighter and a cooler shade of gray than the warm shade used on the Hasbro version.

:Galvatron features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] plastic, though in Galvatron's case it is the most random and illogical usage of the gimmick yet in the ''Henkei'' toyline. Galvatron's entire tank turret and the equipment on the vehicle side skirts are vacuum-metallized silver, making him one hell of a blingin' tank.

:Also of note, the box art on the back of the packaging shows the mythical third "turret" mode, but has no instructions on how to convert the toy into it.

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==Merchandise==
===Generation 2===
*'''Galvatron''' (Watch, 1993)[[Image:G2GalvatronWatch.png|right|Not only do I tell time, I defy it as well]]
:A Galvatron watch was released in the 1980s in Japan. It was subsequently re-released in 1990s by Takara as merchandise for the [[Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' line]] in the USA. The watch featured Galvatron's torso with a clock in his chest. It included a mechanism whereby when a lever was pushed, the tiny Galvatron torso "transformed" into a full tiny Galvatron figure complete with legs, standing up on the watch band. The figure cannot be removed from the watch, but the arms do rotate.

===Super Hybrid Model===
* '''Galvatron''' (1987, 1997)

[[Image:SHBMGalv1.jpg|left|150px|thumb|I can't transform? This is YOUR fault, Cyclonus!]]
[[Image:SHBMGalv2.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Clearly crazy.]]
: ''[[Super Hybrid Model]]'' Galvatron was the exclusive toy for [[BotCon]] Japan 1997. It is a vinyl figure about 8" tall, styled after his [[Studio Ox]]-modified [[Character model|animation model]]; of the original intended SHBM roster, this is the only one to have ever been officially released. This figure was initially available in two versions: "standard" purple and a translucent orange "lava bath" version limited to 100 pieces. In subsequent years, at least two more versions of this figure would be released for online sale: one that replaced the orange paint on the cannon barrel with an orange molded plastic piece, and another that replaced the entire purple body coloration with royal blue.

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===Super Collection Figure===
[[Image:PVCGalvyMetalChase.jpg|right|150px|thumb|PVC in this case means Probably Very Crazy.]]
* '''Galvatron''' (2001, 2002)

:Galvatron was part of the second "Act" of Takara's ''[[Super Collection Figure|Super Collection Figures]]'', a soft-plastic PVC of his cartoon model in both full-color and all-clear plastics, one each per case of twelve. A metallic-painted version of this figure was one of the chase items in act 6.

===Heroes of Cybertron===
*'''Galvatron''' (2003)

:''Super Collection Figure'' Galvatron was later released as part of Hasbro's ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' series, cast entirely in clear-red plastic then painted over (giving it a lightpipe-like glowing eye effect). He was only available in the third wave of the line.

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===MyClone===
* '''Galvatron''' (2003)

[[Image:MycloneGalv.jpg|right|120px|thumb|He will kill you with adorability.]]
: [[MyClone]] Galvatron is a [[super deformed]] figurine whose parts were interchangable with other ''[[MyClone]]'' figures. He came in standard cartoon colours and lava "chase" versions (referencing his lava bath in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2]]").

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===Transformers Generation 1 Bottlecap Collection===
[[Image:BottlecapGalvatron.jpg|right|120px|thumb|How dare [[Pepsi Convoy]]?!]]
* '''Galvatron''' (2003)

:[[Kabaya]] released a set of 12 non-articulated ''Generation 1'' figures affixed at their feet to screw-on bottlecaps. Galvatron was painted entirely in greys, like all the figures except Optimus Prime and Megatron.

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===Titanium Series===
[[Image:TitaniumGalvatron.jpg|right|100px|thumb|"This pose is too crazy, even for ME!!!"]]
*'''Galvatron''' (3-inch Robot Masters, 2006)

: ''Titanium'' Galvatron is a 3-inch-tall, non-transforming, die-cast metal figurine. He is based heavily on his cartoon model and has articulation in his neck, waist, shoulders, and wrists. His orange cannon and right arm from the elbow down are also removable.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/TitGalvatron/galvatron.htm ''More information on ''Titanium'' Galvatron at TFU.info'']

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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:RobotHeroes Galvatron Sunstreaker.jpg|right|thumb|"Hi, I'm better than you." "Yeah, but I'm crazier than you."]]
* '''Sunstreaker vs. Galvatron''' (2-pack, 2008)

:''Robot Heroes'' Galvatron is an adorably insane super-deformed figurine with articulation at the neck and shoulders. Glitch-tastically, he has a [[:Image:Decepticon_Shattered_Glass.png|red]] [[Transformers (2007)|movie]]-style Decepticon symbol.

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===Transformers - Mini Bust===
[[Image:DiamondGalvBust.jpeg|right|thumb|150px|What Zarak meant by "we shall see..."]]
* '''Galvatron''' (Diamond Select, 2008)
: The first large Galvatron merchandise item to see release in U.S. markets was this bust, sculpted by [[Art Asylum]] and released by [[Diamond Select Toys]] in 2008. It is a static depiction of Galvatron's head and collar region, limited to 1,000 pieces.

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[[Image:DST09_Galvatron_bust.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Hadooken!]]
* '''Galvatron''' (Diamond Select, 2009)
: Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2009, Galvatron was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of Art Asylum and limited to 1,000 pieces. He has his particle cannon posed forward either at an Autobot or perhaps one of his own underlings. His base is the planet devouring [[Unicron]] who originally created him from the dying [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron.]]

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Kayb:

==Mechabots, et al, as their own pages?==
Just about everything we know about the Mechabots, the Bombasticons, and Hyper-Fax is summed up in the following sentence on this page:

''The computer game in which Prime fights includes the "Mechabots" as the good guys, the "Bombasticons" as the bad guys, and "Hyper-Fax" (or possibly "Hyperfax") as the land/city/planet Prime fights to defend.''

With so little info to work with, I set up pages for the Mechabots, et al, as just redirects to this page. Walky asserts they should have their own pages. Opinions? [[User:JW|JW]] 15:11, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

:Giving them individual pages would be most [[Rorza%2C_the_Rocket-cycle_Racer_from_Rigel_III|consistent]]. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 16:21, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

:I'd rather they have individual pages. If anything, it makes them that much easier to find by accident, since they'll so up in Category lists individually. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Not to rehash an old conversation, but I was actually specifically searching the Machobots and Bombasticons just now, so I concur on them getting their own pages :) slash edit, nevermind, as it turns out i've been typing macho, not mecha, into the search pattern, sigh.[[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 01:04, 2 March 2010 (EST)

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Kayb:

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Kayb:

Xetaxxis

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Kayb:

:''Xetaxxis is a planet in the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:QuintessonJournal Xetaxxins.jpg|thumb|right|300px|'We'll soon be back, and in greater numbers!']]
'''Xetaxxis''' hates [[Lanarq]].

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon===
Xetaxxis was plunged deep in a war with neighboring world [[Lanarq]], turning to the [[Quintesson]]s for greater and more destructive weapons. After this war had raged for centuries, devastating both worlds, it came to the point where both races would be wiped out entirely. The [[Autobot]]s arranged for a peace conference, and the Xetaxxins dispatched a delegation to meet with a group of Lanarqens.

Talks quickly broke down, and the Xetaxxins stormed out, promising decisive action. They contacted their Quintesson suppliers, who reported that the weapon they ordered would soon be delivered. This done, the Xetaxxin fleet fired on the Lanarq ships, which responded in kind. The Xetaxxin and Lanarqen delegates resumed brawling, despite the best efforts of [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], until [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] arrived with a [[Quintesson Journal]]. The revelation that the Quintessons had been keeping the war going so they could supply guns to both Xetaxxis and Lanarq effectively ended the war, with both races agreeing to keep to their own worlds. {{storylink|The Quintesson Journal}}

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Waspinator (BW)

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Kayb: /* Trivia */

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{{disambig2|the ill-destined wasp robot from the Beast Era|the ill-destined wasp robot from ''Transformers Animated''|Wasp}}
:''Waspinator is a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[Image:Waspinatorbw.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Waspinator: chew-toy of fate.]]
'''Waspinator''' is the universe's whipping boy. If something goes wrong, it happens to him. If something blows up, he's usually at the epicenter of the explosion. He has been blasted, burned, shot down, torn up, crushed, slashed, smashed, bashed, and otherwise reduced to his component parts times beyond counting. Disturbingly, [[Rattrap]] has taken to collecting his severed components.

Waspinator's not the brightest 'bot in the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]]. Megatron has classified the harebrained Predacon as expendable, much to Waspinator's dismay; he doesn't get much more respect from anyone else, either. His speech quirks don't help: he tends to refer to himself in the third person and to most other people by nicknames like [[Cheetor (BW)|"cat-bot"]] and [[Quickstrike (BW)|"two-head"]]. He's also a bit too fond of the letter "Z". (Those prone to witticisms might say he has a "lizzzzp".)

Waspinator may be dumb, but he's not stupid. He has caught on to his lot in life and tries to avoid his fate as often as possible... but fate always finds him. Thankfully, he's almost supernaturally durable and has survived the most devastating and humiliating of defeats.

{{quote|[[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] blow up, Waspinator must salvage. Waspinator blow up, ''nobody'' salvage! Why universe hate Waspinator?|Waspinator laments his lot in life, "[[Deep Metal]]"}}
:''Japanese name:'' '''Waspeeter''' (ワスピーター ''Wasupītā'')<ref>This particular [[romanization]] was first used on a Japanese ''Beast Wars'' [http://www18.tok2.com/home/jackhama/transformers/bwtcard_1/img/015.jpg trading card], and later reappeared in the opening sequence for the Japanese version of the PSX ''[[Beast Wars: Transmetals]]'' fighting game.</ref> 
:''Bulgarian name:'' '''Osinator''' (Осинатор)
:''French name:'' '''Bourdon''' ("Bumblebee", original toy, Canada), '''Bizznator'''<ref>It is unknown at this time if Waspinator was "Bizznator" in both Quebec and France, or if there were even two separate French dubs of ''Beast Wars'' to begin with. However, it ''is'' definitely known that only Canada got packaging with actual French names on it.</ref> (cartoon, Transmetal, Canada)
:''Chinese name:'' '''Hú-fēng''' (胡蜂, "Wasp", Taiwan), '''Tsāng-yíng''' (蒼蠅, "Fly", Taiwan)
:''Italian name:'' '''Punginator'''
:''Polish name:'' '''Osator'''
:''Russian name:'' '''Ospinator''' (Оспинатор)
:''Spanish name:'' '''Avispaneitor''' (cartoon, spelling uncertain), '''Avispón''' ("Hornet", toy)

==Fiction==
===First wave toy bios===
The Waspinator is a fearsome warrior of monstrous appearance, striking fear with the eerie sound of his ominous buzzing. He strikes down helpless victims using his secret wing missiles, poisoning them with his cyber-sting.{{storylink|Waspinator (BW)#Toys|Waspinator bio}}
He also likes to gang up on his victims with his partner, [[Buzz Saw]]. {{storylink|Buzz Saw#Toys|Buzz Saw bio}}

{{note|The on-package [[Bio|bios]] of the first wave of Beast Wars toys, predate the development of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon and its backstory. They seem to present the characters as a direct continuation of the previous Autobot/Decepticon conflict, with Optimus Primal actually being a new form of Optimus Prime and Megatron being his Generation 1 counterpart, and their battles taking place on present day, [[human]]-inhabited Earth, rather than in the distant past. Once the cartoon launched, the toyline adjusted itself to match that continuity instead, relegating this one to an aborted [[micro-continuity]].}}
===Cartoon continuity===
====Dawn of Future's Past====
[[Image:Waspinatordawn.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Waspy is mi kopilot, but hoo on Sibertron is mi spelcheker?]]
While [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], his [[Dinobot (BW)|lieutenant]], and [[Scorponok (BW)|another underling]] stole a Maximal relic, the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], the Predacon who would later name himself Waspinator stole a ship with the help of an accomplice he nicknamed "[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Beakbot]]." The two had a contest to name the ship, but "Waspinator" lost, and thus the stolen ship was dubbed the ''[[Darksyde]]''. "Waspinator" believed ''Buzzerbot'' would have been a better name. For reasons known only to [[Primus]], Megatron agreed.

After escaping [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the ''Darksyde'' was intercepted by the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' and the ''[[Chromia 10]]'', but after an intense space battle, only the ''Darksyde'' and the ''Axalon'' remained. Megatron ordered "Waspinator" to ''excecute'' their planned [[transwarp]] jump, opening up a portal which both ships entered. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
''Voice Actor'': [[Scott McNeil]] (English), [[Kensō Katō]] (Japanese), [[Ivo Roberto]] (Portuguese), [[Diego Sabre]] (Italian)

[[Image:BeastWars1 Waspinator robotmode.jpg|thumb|left|250px]]
Waspinator, part of Megatron's rogue band of Predacons, landed on an unknown planet with dangerous levels of unstable [[Energon (fuel)|energon]]. To protect themselves from the energon, the Predacons took organic beast modes. In Waspinator's case, he now transformed into a large, green wasp. The first conflict between the stranded Predacons and their Maximal pursuers came when the Maximal [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] stumbled across Waspinator. In a stark contrast to his later career, he actually proved to be a serious threat and had the advantage over the inexperienced Cheetor, pinning the young Maximal down in a canyon. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}}

The Predacons pursued the Maximals and interrupted a fight between [[Optimus Primal]] and [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]. When a stray shot exposed a cache of energon atop a nearby mountain, the Predacons headed for it. Waspinator was teamed with [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] for the first time, in an attempt to slow the Maximals down. They were chased off by a missile from Primal and rejoined the others for a mountaintop battle, wherein Cheetor attempted to have a rematch with Waspinator. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}}

He helped [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and Terrorsaur install some perimeter defenses around the Predacon base. {{storylink|The Web}} When Cheetor ended up in the Predacon base through some sort of freak teleportation system, Waspinator and Scorponok tried to kill him, but only succeeded in blowing themselves up with their own missiles. Little did Waspinator know that he would be blown up numerous times in the adventures to come. {{storylink|Equal Measures}}

[[Image:ChainOfCommand Waspinator gets shot up.jpg|thumb|right|200px|"...and here we see a wild Waspinator in its natural state."]]
Waspinator was part of an attack on the Maximals at the [[Standing Stones]]. He survived that battle, but when an [[Vok Probe|alien probe]] appeared at the circle, he and Megatron attempted to take possession of it, and a pulse of energy zapped them. They turned up, badly damaged, back at the Predacon base. After repairs, Megatron sent Waspinator and Scorponok to guard the circle. The Maximals soon turned up to try and extract Primal from the probe, and Waspinator attempted to sneak up on [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], only for the Maximal to ventilate him with a chaingun. Waspinator fell backwards against a standing stone, activating a sequence which freed Primal from the probe. {{storylink|Chain of Command}}

After Terrorsaur managed to slag Megatron and take leadership of the Predacons, Waspinator and Scorponok promptly fixed Megatron. {{storylink|Power Surge}} When a stasis pod crashed, Waspinator and Terrorsaur went directly to the ''Axalon'' and ambushed Optimus Primal when he emerged to look for the pod. Though they succeeded, Dinobot dropped a huge rock on Waspinator, and Terrorsaur had to help his fellow. Waspinator was still healthy enough to report to Megatron, who sent the pair to capture the pod. On the way, they managed to slow down the Maximals by destroying an ice bridge, but by the time they reached the pod, [[Tigatron]] had already been activated. The new Maximal fought them off. {{storylink|Fallen Comrades}}

[[Image:Better_Mousetrap_Waspinator.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Wazzzzpinator not want to know "who'zzzz there?"]]
In one of Waspinator's few victories, he managed to retrieve the stasis pod which gave birth to [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. When Terrorsaur again deposed Megatron, Waspinator seemed happy to follow his fellow Predacon. {{storylink|Double Jeopardy}} Perhaps that was why he was subsequently assigned with Blackarachnia and Terrorsaur to deliver a [[sonic emitter]] to a location below the ''Axalon''. Dissatisfied with the task, he went to fly around for a bit and mutter to himself, only to give away their position accidentally. Though he returned to the other two Predacons, they were discovered by Tigatron, who destroyed the sonic emitter. {{storylink|A Better Mousetrap}} After Primal was inadvertently turned into a berserker by Scorponok's [[cyberbee]], Waspinator attempted to track down Optimus in the Predacon base, but found himself pulled through a wall and blasted. {{storylink|Gorilla Warfare}}

Waspinator acted as bait for the first test of [[Tarantulas]]'s [[transformation lock lens]]. The test was a success, but Waspinator was slagged by Tigatron. {{storylink|The Probe}} He was later one of the trio who mounted a mock revolt against Megatron to fool the Maximals. The Predacons concealed themselves in a crevasse (where Waspinator apparently spent his nights cuddling Tarantulas like a soft toy) while the Maximals repaired the ''Axalon''. They were discovered by Dinobot, who dropped a large rock on Waspinator and Terrorsaur. Though the latter survived to battle on, Waspinator apparently didn't. {{storylink|Victory (episode)|Victory}}

[[Image:DarkDesigns Waspinator is nuts.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Dancing Queen Bee]]
When [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] had his personality program converted to that of a Predacon, he started surreptitiously taking out the various Predacons. He swung a cargo crate into Waspinator, giving him a concussion. As a result, Waspy flew around in a daze, claiming to be the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] as well as the great [[Ben Yee|Wonko the Sane]]. This dementia was apparently reversed when Cheetor later got annoyed at his yattering and shot him down. One of Waspinator's stray shots subsequently hit the [[Transmuter]], causing it to explode. {{storylink|Dark Designs (episode)|Dark Designs}}

Terrorsaur and Waspinator were hanging around outside the Predacon base during Megatron's experiment to create a [[Clone One|clone of Dinobot]]. {{storylink|Double Dinobot}} The pair attacked Cheetor when the young Maximal was protecting a stasis pod. Cheetor managed to lure Waspinator into flying over an energon geyser, frying his circuits. {{storylink|The Spark}} Perhaps a sign that they hadn't learned their lesson, Waspinator and Terrorsaur attacked Tigatron, only to be blasted by the defense system of a strange [[Brigadoon|flying island]]. Though injured, they were able to return to base to report the find. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}} Following another bout of repairs, the duo headed back for the island, only to run into Primal and [[Rattrap]], who were headed in the same direction. Eventually they did each the island...only for Blackarachnia to trick them into triggering the island's defenses again, resulting in them both being blasted. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 2}}

Tigatron was ambushed on his way to another stasis pod by Waspinator, who managed to get a drop on the tiger. Waspinator's victory was short-lived, as [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] promptly shot his wings off, and he crashed to the ground. {{storylink|Spider's Game}} Waspinator and Terrorsaur stole the ''Axalon''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> [[rectifier coil]], forcing the Maximals remain in their beast modes. Once the Maximals had gone feral and wandered off into the jungle, the Predacons mounted a hunting expedition. The Maximals were able to overcome their programming block, and during the subsequent fight, Rhinox swatted Waspinator out of the air with a ''tree''. {{storylink|Call of the Wild}}

[[Image:Possession_Waspinator.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Give him an orange parka and call him Kenny.]]
After an apparently victorious battle, Waspinator and Scorponok returned to base. However, the Maximals they had attacked were not dead, merely blinded, and Waspinator was soon sent out again, teamed with Terrorsaur, to eliminate them. Unfortunately, even four blind Maximals were more than enough match for them, and both Predacons were sent packing. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}} Things continued to go badly for Waspinator, as during a violent storm, he was possessed by the immortal [[spark]] of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. It took a major [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] explosion to dislodge Starscream's immortal [[spark]] from Waspinator's body. It also had the after-effect of giving Waspinator a headache in his ''whole body''. {{storylink|Possession}}

Waspinator was part of a diversionary attack while Tarantulas tried out his new weapon, an [[energon discharge virus]]. Later on, the Predacons attempted to stop the Maximals getting the antidote and were blasted by Rhinox's enormous fart. {{storylink|The Low Road}} Waspinator teamed up with [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] and Terrorsaur for a fight, only to be roundly trounced by Tigatron. The trio were later able to defeat Dinobot, with Waspinator dealing the final blow, but Optimus Primal turned up and blew both him and Terrorsaur away with one shot. {{storylink|Law of the Jungle}}

[[Image:OtherVoices1 robonoogie.jpg|thumb|200px|right]]
Waspinator caught Tarantulas stealing a [[transwarp cell]] from the ''Darksyde'', but he was unable to stop the spider from leaving, as Tarantulas tossed him a bomb. Waspinator was soon in a multitude of separate pieces. {{storylink|Before the Storm}} Recovered and ready to take revenge on Tarantulas, he was instead sent by Megatron to secure a new alien site. Unfortunately, once he got there, he encountered Rattrap, who saw him off with a "robonoogie" and a kick to the unmentionables. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}} He retired to the ''Darksyde'', where the Predacons monitored the situation with the [[Planet Buster]] weapon which had been revealed from the planet's second moon. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}}

[[Image:ComingFuzors1 Waspinator cubed.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Rube-ik's Cube]]
After the Planet Buster was destroyed, the strange energies of a [[quantum surge]] saturated both ships. Waspinator lost control of his hoversled and was tipped into one of the restoration pools. Bathed in the regenerative fluids, he was prevented from becoming a [[Transmetal]]. He and his newly upgraded leader mounted an attack on the ''Axalon'', but once Waspinator faced a similarly upgraded Cheetor, he soon retreated. {{storylink|Aftermath}} Waspinator was the first to realize that the seemingly unknown planet on which they'd landed was, in fact, [[Earth]]. Dinobot had made the same realization and stole into the ''Darksyde'' to retrieve both of Megatron's disks. Waspinator proposed the two work together to steal the disks, and much to his surprise, Dinobot agreed...and threw him into the security shield. Waspinator was crushed into a cube by the disks' security contraption, leaving Dinobot free to steal the disks unharmed while Waspinator crawled away to the CR chamber using two fingers.

He got himself repaired in time to join Megatron's forces on the battlefield, where they outnumbered Dinobot, Cheetor and Rattrap. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}} He was teamed up with new recruit [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] to attack the ''Axalon'' by air. After asserting his authority over the [[Fuzor]], he was promptly knocked out of the air by Cheetor. He joined the other Predacons as they prepared to finish off the Maximals for good...but was the first victim of a reborn Transmetal Optimus Primal. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}}

Waspinator and [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]] were tasked with constructing a new jamming tower. They constructed it successfully, but while Waspinator proudly reported their success to Megatron, Inferno playfully knocked the tower over on him. {{storylink|Tangled Web}} Another of Waspinator's rare victories came when he shot Silverbolt from behind, causing the Maximal to crash into Dinobot, effectively taking both out. While Inferno took off with Dinobot's prone form, [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] refused to help Waspy carry Silverbolt. A short time later, Rattrap mimicked Quickstrike's voice, tricking Waspinator into picking up a gas mine, and Waspinator's victory was no more. {{storylink|Maximal, No More}}

Waspinator and the rest of the Predacons installed shield generators around another alien site, but the [[Metal Hunter|alien construct]] which appeared zapped everyone, sending him into stasis lock. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 1)}} Megatron took control of the construct and restored all of the Predacons to working order. Waspinator and Inferno retrieved transwarp cells to give the ship transwarp capability. They were later sent out to defend the construct against the Maximals. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 2)}}

[[Image:BadSpark Waspinator defeated.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Not quite what "stick the landing" means.]]
Sent with Blackarachnia to claim another pod, Waspinator didn't last long before he was shot down by Cheetor and landed head first. {{storylink|Bad Spark}} He also took part in the attack on the valley where the [[protohuman]]s were living, but his contribution ended when Dinobot stuffed him head-first into [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]'s main cannon and Rampage exploded. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}

As by Megatron's calculations, the [[transwarp wavefront]] from the Planet Buster explosion would soon be reaching [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the Predacons mounted an attack on the ''Axalon''. The Maximals received reinforcements in the form of Predacon covert agent [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], whose [[transwarp cruiser]] saw the Predacons off. Waspinator was subsequently given a new solo mission by Megatron, and he departed when the Maximals next attacked. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}} Just as he arrived at his [[Mount St. Hilary|destination]], Blackarachnia accidentally hit him with her hoversled, knocking him apart. Waspinator once again started gathering himself together. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}}

Waspinator pulled himself together in time to aid Megatron's escape, after the Predacon leader badly damaged [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. He, Megatron and Inferno headed for the ''Axalon'', but Cheetor and Primal caught up with them, and Waspinator was downed by one shot from Cheetor. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}} After Inferno was blown to bits while attacking the Maximal base, Megatron sent Waspinator to salvage him. Waspinator was less than happy, complaining that no one ever salvaged ''him''. {{storylink|Deep Metal}} He was able to get the drop on Silverbolt when the Maximals were attempting to salvage [[Sentinel (BW)|Sentinel]], and he happily flew off with the module.

{{Quote|Waspinator having good day! Not get shot once!}}

[[Image:Waspinatorigor.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Igor needs to file his nails.]]
Sadly, he didn't get very far before Silverbolt and Rattrap caught up, blasting him out of the air so they could reclaim Sentinel. {{storylink|Changing of the Guard}} After Megatron developed [[cyber raptor]]s, Waspinator and Tarantulas were sent out with a group of them to attack Cheetor and Blackarachnia. The Maximals soon discovered that destroying the raptors' control components sent them wild, and Waspinator was stomped into the ground by an out-of-control dinosaur. {{storylink|Cutting Edge}} Another of Waspinator's increasingly few victories came when he managed to snatch a stasis pod from under the Maximals' noses. He acted as lab assistant as Megatron utilised the [[blank]] [[protoform]] contained in the pod, plus a [[transmetal driver]], to create a new [[Dinobot II|Dinobot]]. Unfortunately, even this victory was short-lived, as a short time later, the device Megatron was using exploded, and Waspinator was caught in the blast. After getting repaired, he made his way to where Megatron was interrogating [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]]...only to be blasted by his own trigger-happy leader. {{storylink|Feral Scream Part 1}}

After Megatron discovered that Cheetor had upgraded himself into a [[Transmetal 2]], he sent Waspinator and Dinobot out to find and capture the kitty. The pair located him in a cave, but as Dinobot began to move in, Waspinator asserted his own leadership...and was shredded by Dinobot. Following another bout of repairs, Waspinator rejoined the hunt, and they eventually found Cheetor again. Waspinator was offhandedly slagged by the Maximal while trying to sneak up. {{storylink|Feral Scream Part 2}}

[[Image:Go with the Flow Waspinator Una.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]
Requiring someone organic to complete the [[disruptor cannon]], Megatron sent Waspinator and Inferno to pick up a protohuman. Waspinator was able to capture [[Una]], but she did quite a bit of damage to him on the flight back. On reaching the mountain hideout, Waspinator reported success and promptly collapsed into a collection of parts. At some point, he got repaired and was able to join in the pursuit of Rattrap and Una as they escaped. He was hit in the face by mud, sending him out of control, crashing into first Inferno, then Dinobot, and allowing the Maximals to escape. The three Predacons were called back to the mountain, where Megatron attempted to use the disruptor cannon, which promptly exploded. {{storylink|Go with the Flow}} Waspinator's next glorious mission was an attack on the Maximal base. Unfortunately for him, his expected backup wasn't there, and he was swatted by Optimus Primal. It had all been a ploy to draw Primal out so that Tarantulas could deliver a device to take control of the Maximal leader. {{storylink|Master Blaster}}

After the destruction of the ''Darksyde'' at [[Tigerhawk]]'s hands, Megatron sent Waspinator, [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]], and [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] on an errand to find a new base, which was really nothing more than pointless busywork while Megatron went to do more important things. As the trio staked out an early [[human]] tribe that had taken up residence in a series of caves, Waspinator decided he'd finally had enough and ripped off his [[insignia|Predacon symbol]], declaring himself out of the Beast Wars.

[[Image:Waspinatorhappyatlast.jpg|left|thumb|250px|Wazzzzpinator happy at last! ...until the [[Beast Machines (cartoon)|next series]].]]
{{quote|I said '''no!''' [[Megatron (BW)|Dragon-Bot]] command '''you,''' [[Sub-Commander]] [[Inferno (BW)|Kiss-Butt]]! Dragon-Bot not command Waspinator! Not any more! Waspinator sick of being evil! Sick of being Predacon! And Waspinator especially sick of getting blown to '''scrap''' all the time! Sooo, Waspinator '''quit!''' As of '''now,''' which means [[Inferno (BW)|Ant-Bot]] and [[Quickstrike (BW)|Two-Head]] can just pucker their mandibles and plant [[Kiss|big, wet, juicy one]] right here on Waspinator's big...fat..stripy...}}

At this point, Waspinator was interrupted by getting blown to scrap by Inferno and Quickstrike. Also, note that this is the first (and only) time that he refers to himself as "I". {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

His parts recovered by the protohuman tribe, Waspinator remained on Earth while all the other surviving Transformers set off for Cybertron, and led the tribe, declaring that he was finally...happy. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}

For a bit, at least.
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====''15 Go! Go!''====

[[Image:Atari meets optimus primal.jpg|125px|thumb|right]]
The time-traveling [[human]] [[Atari Hitotonari]] and the [[Sparkbot]] [[Star Dust]] witnessed a battle between Waspinator and Optimus Primal. However, the two interlopers could not be seen by either of the warriors.

====''Tales of the Beast Wars''====
[[Antagony]] threatened to blast Waspinator if Megatron did not back down. Waspinator's warranty had expired, but it didn't matter as Antagony accidently wasted her last shot when she sneezed. Do we even need to guess what happened to Waspinator? {{storylink|Visitations}}

Later, to his credit, Waspinator was the only Predacon aside from Megatron to not be paralyzed in fear at the sight of a [[Unicron]]-possessed [[Windrazor (BW)|Windrazor]]. Of course, Waspinator had just been blown up for the umpteen millionth time. None of the Maximals expressed satisfaction. They always got Waspinator. Always. {{storylink|Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Paradox}}

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====Transmetal Toy Bio====
Even though the quantum surge has upgraded Waspinator physically, his personality remains the same. He has however found a renewed drive to eliminate the Maximals, accompanied by enhanced speed.
{{storylink|Waspinator (BW)#Toys|Transmetal Waspinator Bio}}
{{note|The on-package [[Bio|bios]] of the Transmetal sub-line presented a micro-continuity where all of the characters receiving a new toy were transmetalized due to the initial quantum surge, instead of a select few.}}

====''Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals''====
{{note|This game takes place in an alternate version of the second season of the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]] cartoon.}}
[[Image:N64Waspinators.jpg|thumb|200px|[[Neon]] Camo Waspinator and Transmetal [[Buzz Saw]]! In stores now!]]
[[Image:TMWaspinator-Render.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Full Metal Yellowjacket]]
''Voice Actor:'' [[Scott McNeil]] (English), ??? (Japanese)

[[Transmetal]] Waspinator joins his fellow Predacons in distributing various one-on-one beat downs to the Maximals. Eventually he got fed up, quit, and became god to early humanity. He did this after ''kicking everyone's ass''. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals}}

{{Note|Waspinator is only available for game play in the Nintendo 64 game. His model was also used to represent the hidden character [[:Image:N64Starscream.jpg|Starscream]].}}

{{note|Each character possessed an alternate ending, displayed if the Nintendo 64 game was beaten with said character. Each character has only their own ending listed on their pages, see the other characters' pages for Waspinator's fate in those outcomes.}}
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====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
An alternate timeline's Waspinator was possessed by Starscream's immortal spark after the later's defeat at the hand of the Maximals. This time around, Starscream was able to hold possession of Waspinator until the Quantum Surge hit Prehistoric Earth, and was able to influence Waspinator's transmetalisation so that the Predacon's third mode would ressemble Starscream's own original fighter jet mode. The two of them bicker constantly over control of the shared body, their two distinct voices audible to whoever hears them argue. {{storylink|Beast Wars Sourcebook}}

====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
''Main article: [[Thrust (BM)]]''
[[Image:Wazzpinator.jpg|right|thumb|180px|Why [[Vector Sigma#Beast_Era|Oracle]] hate Wazzzzpinator?]]
Waspinator grew bored of being a god to the Protohumans and started flicking rocks at their heads. The Protohumans he had ruled over grew tired of his presence and evicted him from their settlement by catapulting him from a tree. After this, Waspinator returned to Cybertron, which "took forever."
{{note|It is unclear just ''how'' Waspinator traveled from prehistoric Earth to future Cybertron, presumably under his own power. Perhaps if he somehow managed to reach escape velocity and traveled to Cybertron at sub-light speed, it would have taken long enough that he would have "caught up" to the main timeline. A concrete explanation would have been provided in the [[Primeval Dawn]] comics, with Waspinator (among many other Earth-bound characters) traveling back to Cybertron via transwarp portal. However, the bankruptcy of [[3H]] meant these final issues were never fully written, much less published, and all we really know about [[authorial intent|what they were going to say]] came from messageboard posts from author [[Dan Khanna]]. Since the material was never completed or published, fans [[personal canon|may not necessarily accept them as storyline facts]] and could thus leave the mechanics of Waspinator's return an unsolved mystery.}}

Once home, his spark was removed and used to power the [[Vehicon general]] [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]. He ''loved'' being a cool biker-bot as he now got respect and was finding [[Blackarachnia (BW)|chicks]] dig the new brooding bad boy schtick!

Influences from his inner spark caused Thrust to save Blackarachnia's life several times, causing her to believe he carried [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]'s spark. {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}} She later tried to bring his original mind back and discovered, to her disgust, that she'd spent all her effort getting Waspinator back. Poor Waspinator was rather upset to find Blackarachnia no longer wanted to "go steady" with him, and briefly had a punch-up with a revived Silverbolt over her honour. {{storylink|The Catalyst}}

Following Blackarachnia's unambigious rejection of him, Waspinator remained in the "background" and let Thrust run the show, until [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] used an [[Spark extractor|extractor]] to remove Waspinator's spark from the body shell. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall}} After Cybertron's [[technorganic]] reformatting (thanks to Optimus Primal, through the cost of his and Megatron's lives) Waspinator returned in his beast mode with Thrust's head, now the size of a standard wasp. He complained to Rattrap about how much he wanted glory and power and never gets what he wants... at which point Rattrap swatted him away. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future}}

{{note|While the suggestions that Thrust was really Silverbolt turned out to be a red herring, his actions raise the question of ''how'' Waspinator's spark could influence Vehicon programming, seemingly due to having a crush, but her true love Silverbolt's ''didn't''.}}

====''Universe'' comic====
After the reformatting of Cybertron, Waspinator came under the command of [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]]. His tiny size and great speed made him an excellent scout and messenger, and he reported to Galvatron that the invading Quintessons had entered a particular canyon that the Predacons had booby-trapped. He seemed very giddy to have a commander who actually found him useful for once. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

Later, Waspinator was part of a team sent to rescue victims of [[Unicron]] who had been transported to an isolated, icy planetoid. {{storylink|OTFCC 2004 Live-Action Script Reading}}
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===''Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars'' Video Game===
Megatron was capable to summon Waspinator forth to the battlefield in his attempts to acquire the super-powerful [[energon crystal]]. {{storylink|Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars: Beast Warriors' Strongest Decisive Battle|Duel Fight Transformers Beast Wars}}
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===''Transformers Legends'' anthology===
The Predacons crashed on Earth in [[Mexico]] around 1,000 BC. Acting on Megatron's orders, Tarantulas and Waspinator enslaved the local [[Natiltec]] tribe, who saw Waspinator as some sort of "wasp-god", and forced them to mine energon. Silverbolt mounted a heroic rescue, struggling with Waspinator as the humans escape. The Natiltec later immortalised the event on a cave wall, which was uncovered some three thousand years later by a team of archaeologists. {{storylink|Fire in the Dark}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[Image:Waspinatorjbwtoy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|The Japanese version is more [[Playskool]].]]
* '''Waspinator''' (Deluxe, 1996/1997)
** ''Japanese ID number'': '''D-3'''
** ''Accessories'': Launcher, 2 missiles

:Waspinator transforms into a large organic wasp. His stinger separates to become a hand-held spring-loaded missile launcher for his robot mode; the bolts are stored on the underside of his insect-wings. His head is on a vertical column that rotates around a horizontal axle; each end has a different head, one "mutant", one "robot". The "mutant" head was used as the base for his CGI model, and thus the norm for his fictional portrayals. The [[Takara]] version of Waspinator uses slightly brighter, more primary colors than the [[Hasbro]] version.

:This mold was later [[redeco]]ed for a "[[Fox Kids]]" version, as well as [[Beast_Wars_10th_Anniversary|both the Hasbro and Takara 10th anniversary versions]] of the character.

:This mold was also used to make [[Buzz Saw]] and [[retool]]ed into [[Dirge (BWII)#Mutant|Dirgegun]].

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[[Image:VS3-CheetorWaspinator.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Catbug is a cat but he's got bugness in his veins.]]
* '''Showdown of the Quickest: Cheetus VS Waspeeter''' (VS pack, 1997)
** ''Japanese ID number:'' '''VS-3'''
** ''Accessories:'' Launcher, 2 missiles

:In Japan, Waspinator was available both separately and in a VS pack with [[Cheetor (BW)/toys#Dx1|Cheetor]]. Both toys are identical to their original releases.

:Currently, it is unknown if the latter "show-like" version of the two toys were ever released in the VS set.

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[[Image:Waspinator-TMtoy.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Contains a tiny bit of Starscream in every mold.]]
* '''Waspinator''' (Deluxe Transmetal, 1998)
** ''Japanese ID number'': '''D-42'''
** ''Accessories'': Stinger-rifle

:Now an almost completely robotic figure, [[Transmetal]] Waspinator transforms into a robotic wasp. He features a [[transportation mode|F-15-like jet mode]], flipping and folding his wings into a fighter-jet configuration as well as flipping a cockpit/nosecone between his insect-head mandibles. Though he appears solid black at first glance, he is actually made of very dark transparent-black/green plastic.

:The Takara version of this toy is almost completely identical, except the "WASPINATOR" [[tampograph]] on his wing was replaced with "DESTRON" and the Predacon sigil.

:This mold was later [[redeco]]ed for a "[[Fox Kids]]" version of the character. It was slated for a ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Waspinator (BW)#Universe_.282003.29|version of Waspinator]], but that set was canceled.

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* '''Hurricane Showdown: Metals Cheetus VS Metals Waspeeter''' (VS pack, 1999)
** ''Japanese ID number'': '''VS-42'''
** ''Accessories'': Stinger-rifle

:In Japan, Transmetal Waspinator was available both individually and in a two-pack with [[Cheetor (BW)#TM1|Transmetal Cheetor]]. The two-pack version was unchanged from the normal individually-packaged one.

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[[Image:Waspinator-FKtoy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Do be a blue bee.]]
* '''Waspinator''' (Deluxe, 1999)
** ''Accessories'': Launcher, 2 missiles

:This toy is a [[redeco]] of the first Waspinator toy. A "[[Fox Kids|FoxKids!]]" sticker on the packaging promoted the cartoon, which was playing on Fox at the time. Like most of the other Fox Kids redecoes, his color scheme was altered significantly, consisting primarily of slate blue and green-gold plastic, with dark blue (barely) translucent parts.

:Hasbro solicitations for this toy gave it the name "Power Flight Waspinator", but this name never made it to final packaging.

:This toy's deco was later used to create the non-toy character [[Buzzbomb]].

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[[Image:BW_FoxKidsTransmetal_Waspinator_toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Why FoxKidzzzz hate Waspinator?]]
* '''Waspinator''' (Deluxe Transmetal, 2000)
** ''Accessories'': Stinger-rifle

:This toy is a [[redeco]] of the Transmetal Waspinator toy. A "Fox Kids!" sticker on the packaging promoted the cartoon, which was playing on Fox at the time. The toy's new deco bears more than a passing resemblance to [[Buzz Saw]].

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===Universe (2003)===
[[Image:Waspinator_unreleased.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Wazzpinator... purple?]]

For a brief time, [[Hasbro]]'s official website checklist featured listings for two "Halloween [[Horrorcon (Universe)|Horrorcon]] Value Packs" that were to be Wal-Mart [[Exclusive|exclusives]]... which also likely explains why they were canceled. (Wal-Mart had taken a good half-dozen exclusives and released them more-or-less simultaneously, leading to a huge glut. A lot of other ''Transformers'' exclusives were canceled during the ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' era.)

In 2004, several test-shots appeared on eBay in a group, among them the Transmetal Waspinator toy with opaque-salmon wings and lavender insect legs. This, presumably, was to have been the ''Universe'' incarnation of Waspinator, as the other toys in the group line up with the names given for the two Halloween sets. He was to come in a "Vs." two-pack with the presumably-[[Autobot]] character [[Nightprowler]].
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===Beast Wars 10th Anniversary===
[[Image:Waspinatortenthtoy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Finally Waspinator come with pieces that aren't Waspinator's!]]
* '''Waspinator''' (Deluxe, 2006)
** ''Accessories:'' Launcher, 2 missiles, Transmutate's head

:This toy is a slight [[redeco]] of the first Waspinator toy to make it closer to Waspinator's cartoon appearance, replacing the gray with green and adding extra gold [[Paint operation|paint applications]]. He came with the head to [[Transmutate (character)|Transmutate]] plus a DVD with the episode "[[Possession]]".

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===Timelines===
[[Image:Waspinator-BC06toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|This works surprisingly well on many levels.]]
* '''Darksyde Megatron and Darksyde Waspinator''' (Bagged set, 2006)
** ''Accessories'': 2-part rifle

:Available [[Exclusive|exclusively]] at the [[BotCon 2006]] event itself, this two-pack represents Waspinator and Megatron before the events of the ''Beast Wars'' show. "Darksyde Waspinator" is a Basic-sized figure, originally used for ''[[Machine Wars]]'' [[Skywarp (G1)#MW|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)#MW|Thundercracker]], which autotransforms to robot mode from a [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#Dassault_Rafale|Dassault Rafale fighter jet]]. (One can surmise, however, that it is meant to represent a Cybertronic design in this case.) His rifle splits into two pieces, which store in the backs of his lower legs.

:This mold was also used to make ''[[Beast Wars II (franchise)|Beast Wars II]]'' [[Dirge (BWII)|Dirge]], ''[[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Skyfire (RID)|Skyfire]], and ''[[Robot Masters]]'' [[Wingstun]].

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===Beast Wars Telemocha Series===
[[Image:Waspinatortelemocha.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Otherwise known as Dr. Wasp Itor.]]
* '''Waspeeter''' (Deluxe, 2007)
** ''Japanese ID number'': '''TM-04'''
** ''Accessories'': Launcher, 2 missiles

:This toy is a ridiculously-extensively-painted redeco of the first Waspinator toy to make it almost completely [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] to Waspinator's cartoon appearance (forgiving mold issues and [[unpaintable plastic]], of course). Due to a manufacturing error, Waspinator's crotch piece is backwards.

:He came with a DVD of the episode "The Aerial Mountains Explode", the Japanese dub of "[[Power Surge]]".

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==Merchandise==
* '''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''' (1997)
:Waspinator was one of the 24 beast warriors to receive a battle card representation for the Beast Wars [[Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game|card game]].

[[Image:Robotheroesrhinoxwaspinator.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Do we ''want'' to know what that is gushing out of his butt?]]
===Robot Heroes===
* '''Rhinox vs Waspinator''' (2008)
:Waspinator was released in the second wave of [[Universe (2008 franchise)|''Universe'']] ''[[Robot Heroes]]'' packed with [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] as part of the "Beast Wars Series." An amalgam of toy and television show depictions, Waspinator has articulation at the neck and shoulders. He suspends himself in the air on a strong stream of fluid launching from his butt. (Okay, it's probably supposed to be a compressed air jet or something, but look at it. Eyuw.)
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==Trivia==
* Ironically, in the original toyline's continuity (which was created before the animated series), Waspinator was profiled as a cruel, cunning, highly skilled warrior who was greatly feared by the Maximals.
* Ever wonder ''why'' Waspinator became the whipping boy of ''Beast Wars''? Early in the series, his buzzing, drawling method of speaking frustrated story editors [[Larry DiTillio]] and [[Bob Forward]], as they found it was taking up too much time out of the episodes. To get around this, but still meet with the requirement that he appear regularly, they took to blasting him to bits so that he wouldn't ''have'' to talk! Of course, this only wound up endearing him to the writers and the fans, and his frequent brushes with destruction became a running gag done for fun, rather than a script requirement. <ref>[http://www.infinitefrontiers.0catch.com/AutoAssembly/BobForward.htm Auto Assembly interview with Bob Forward]</ref>
* Waspinator uses neither of his original toy's heads but rather a made-up one borrowing a few elements from his toy's mutant head while still being very different.
* Waspinator was originally chosen by [[Hasbro]] to be one of the characters killed off for the second season of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon to help make way for new characters ([[To sell toys|read: product]]). However, Forward and DiTillio convinced them to spare Waspinator on the grounds of his popularity with the online fan-base, so [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] and [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] took the plunge instead.
* Waspinator was originally slated to appear in the very first [[Beast Wars: Transformers (video game)|''Beast Wars'' video game]], and even had a character model built. However, he was ultimately unused and only appeared in footage taken from the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon.
* Waspinator appears to be the inspiration for [[Buzzer-Bot]] from the ''[[Go-Bots (toyline)|Playskool Go-Bots]]'' line, as well as the obvious [[Wasp]] character from ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]''.
* As a side note, Waspinator's original toy contains a high number of [[Ball joint|ball]] and [[Swivel joint|swivel joints]], which more than easily separate. Makes him a little more [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]], after all.
* When Waspinator is hit from behind by a stasis pod ship made by Blackarachnia, a toilet is seen falling from Waspinator's smashed body. Now Waspinator need new waste disposal unit!
* According to Waspinator's profile in ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]'', he likes flying and nectar.
[[Image:Waspinatortongue.png|thumb|200px|right|Waspinator's special tongue, there is no other like it!]]
* Waspinator has a yellow [[tongue]] in robot mode.
* While Waspinator ''usually'' refers to other characters by nicknames, he is fairly consistent about calling Megatron and Optimus Primal by their real names. ([[Nemesis Part 1#Quotes|Fairly.]]) He also refers to Inferno by name at least twice, and Tarantulas at least once.
* Waspinator is the only member of the Beast Wars [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] lineup who was there from the beginning and remains alive and unchanged for the entire course of the show.
* Waspinator never once makes a proper landing while in his beast form. However, there are plenty of instances for which he makes ''improper'' landings while in beast form, usually when he's being blasted out of the sky.
* Technically, Waspinator's beast mode is that of a female wasp, given that males do not possess a stinger. He would probably find this objectionable, along with everything else in his life.
* Somebody give this guy a hug.

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Waspinator/waspinator.htm Waspinator at TFU.info]
* [http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d75/binalternator/unreleased/nightprowler_vs_waspinator/ Gallery of Nightprowler vs. Waspinator test-shots]

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Toys of a Galvatronic nature.

See also [[Megatron (G1)/toys]] and [[Galvatron II#Toys]].

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1 Galvatron toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Nobody minds ''his'' [[neon]] orange barrel.]]
* '''Galvatron''' (Decepticon, 1986/1987)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-62'''
**''Accessories:'' Laser Rifle, Particle Cannon, Particle Cannon connector

: Galvatron transforms into a Cybertronic treaded field artillery unit with an alternate hand-held gun mode. Using a 9-volt battery, he has a light-up barrel in cannon or gun mode, light-up eyes in robot mode, and variable electronic warbly noises in any mode. Galvatron is notable as one of the most well-articulated toys in the ''Generation 1'' line, with ratcheting shoulders and hips, as well as swivel waist, elbows, mid-biceps, knees, and ankle joints. He was also armed with a small, black laser rifle

: This toy was later released as the [[e-Hobby]]-exclusive [[Galvatron II]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Galvatron/galvatron.htm More information on Galvatron at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:G1 Reissue Galvatron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|WHO CHANGED MY COLORS?! NGAAAAA!!!!]]
* '''Galvatron''' (Decepticon, 2005)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-62-S'''
**''Accessories:'' Laser Rifle, Particle Cannon, Particle Cannon connector, Mini Matrix necklace.

: The original Galvatron toy was much later [[Redeco|redecoed]] and re-released by [[Takara]] into a sort-of more show-like appearance, being primarily purple instead of gray. His face mold was also slightly [[Retool|retooled]], and he was given new sound effects, including speech clips (in Japanese, naturally). He also came with a Matrix on a chain to be worn around his neck, as in the movie. It also used two AA batteries, rather than the previous 9-volt.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Destron/Galvatron/galvatron.htm More information on Reissue Galvatron at TFU.info]''

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===Universe (2008)===
====Classic Series====
[[Image:Galvatronuniversetoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|And there... on the shoulder... was a HOOK!]]
*'''Galvatron''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:Galvatron transforms into a tank reminiscent of the [http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/merkava.htm Israel Weapons Industries Merkava] main battle tank. The tank shows very little purple on its hull, presumably to keep it a reasonably realistic representation of a real-life tank. The tank likewise has a giant translucent orange laser cannon that can fire a translucent orange missile, also keeping in the spirit of realistic alt-modes. Upon transforming to robot mode, it looks much more like the violently insane Decepticon leader we all know and love, and shows larger areas of metallic purple. Oddly enough, the vehicle mode's wheels are molded in the same translucent orange as the cannon, and then painted over with ''a different shade of orange''. On the tank turret is the slogan "GALV-25", in reference to the [[franchise]]'s 25th anniversary.

:This toy has many undocumented features in the form of small moving parts that play no role in transformation or either mode; most conspicuous are two articulated feet for the tank mode. In one of the [[Hasbro Q&A]] sessions, it was confirmed that these are remnants of an early design version of Galvatron, which would have been at a larger size class and [http://www.toymania.com/news/messages/10873.shtml featured a third mode as a "walking tank."] It is still possible to manipulate his parts into a mode greatly resembling the original concept design.

:Galvatron's transformation is almost insanely complex for a deluxe figure. Expect his arms and legs to pop off regularly during transformation. The arm with the cannon on it is known to pop off realy easy, but is mind-numbingly hard to get back on.

:Hasbro's photo advertising for this figure depicts it in a pose that it cannot actually assume.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Decepticon/TFUGalvatron/galvatron.htm ''More information on ''Universe'' Galvatron at TFU.info'']

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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[Image:Henkei Galvatron toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|About ten years too late to be the No Limit Records logo.]]
*'''Galvatron''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-06'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:''Henkei! Henkei!'' Galvatron is a redeco of ''Universe'' Galvatron. As with all ''Henkei'' releases, TakaraTomy have attempted to make the toy better resemble his cartoon counterpart, so most of the bright orange plastic from the ''Universe'' toy is now black. The shade of purple used on ''Henkei'' Galvatron is the lighter, lavender shade commonly seen on Takara's Galvatron toys, rather than the deeper purple seen on Hasbro's Galvatron toys. The gray is also lighter and a cooler shade of gray than the warm shade used on the Hasbro version.

:Galvatron features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] plastic, though in Galvatron's case it is the most random and illogical usage of the gimmick yet in the ''Henkei'' toyline. Galvatron's entire tank turret and the equipment on the vehicle side skirts are vacuum-metallized silver, making him one hell of a blingin' tank.

:Also of note, the box art on the back of the packaging shows the mythical third "turret" mode, but has no instructions on how to convert the toy into it.

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==Merchandise==
===Generation 2===
*'''Galvatron''' (Watch, 1993)[[Image:G2GalvatronWatch.png|right]]
:A Galvatron watch was released in the 1980s in Japan. It was subsequently re-released in 1990s by Takara as merchandise for the [[Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' line]] in the USA. The watch featured Galvatron's torso with a clock in his chest. It included a mechanism whereby when a lever was pushed, the tiny Galvatron torso "transformed" into a full tiny Galvatron figure complete with legs, standing up on the watch band. The figure cannot be removed from the watch, but the arms do rotate.

===Super Hybrid Model===
* '''Galvatron''' (1987, 1997)

[[Image:SHBMGalv1.jpg|left|150px|thumb|I can't transform? This is YOUR fault, Cyclonus!]]
[[Image:SHBMGalv2.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Clearly crazy.]]
: ''[[Super Hybrid Model]]'' Galvatron was the exclusive toy for [[BotCon]] Japan 1997. It is a vinyl figure about 8" tall, styled after his [[Studio Ox]]-modified [[Character model|animation model]]; of the original intended SHBM roster, this is the only one to have ever been officially released. This figure was initially available in two versions: "standard" purple and a translucent orange "lava bath" version limited to 100 pieces. In subsequent years, at least two more versions of this figure would be released for online sale: one that replaced the orange paint on the cannon barrel with an orange molded plastic piece, and another that replaced the entire purple body coloration with royal blue.

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===Super Collection Figure===
[[Image:PVCGalvyMetalChase.jpg|right|150px|thumb|PVC in this case means Probably Very Crazy.]]
* '''Galvatron''' (2001, 2002)

:Galvatron was part of the second "Act" of Takara's ''[[Super Collection Figure|Super Collection Figures]]'', a soft-plastic PVC of his cartoon model in both full-color and all-clear plastics, one each per case of twelve. A metallic-painted version of this figure was one of the chase items in act 6.

===Heroes of Cybertron===
*'''Galvatron''' (2003)

:''Super Collection Figure'' Galvatron was later released as part of Hasbro's ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' series, cast entirely in clear-red plastic then painted over (giving it a lightpipe-like glowing eye effect). He was only available in the third wave of the line.

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===MyClone===
* '''Galvatron''' (2003)

[[Image:MycloneGalv.jpg|right|120px|thumb|He will kill you with adorability.]]
: [[MyClone]] Galvatron is a [[super deformed]] figurine whose parts were interchangable with other ''[[MyClone]]'' figures. He came in standard cartoon colours and lava "chase" versions (referencing his lava bath in "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2]]").

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===Transformers Generation 1 Bottlecap Collection===
[[Image:BottlecapGalvatron.jpg|right|120px|thumb|How dare [[Pepsi Convoy]]?!]]
* '''Galvatron''' (2003)

:[[Kabaya]] released a set of 12 non-articulated ''Generation 1'' figures affixed at their feet to screw-on bottlecaps. Galvatron was painted entirely in greys, like all the figures except Optimus Prime and Megatron.

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===Titanium Series===
[[Image:TitaniumGalvatron.jpg|right|100px|thumb|"This pose is too crazy, even for ME!!!"]]
*'''Galvatron''' (3-inch Robot Masters, 2006)

: ''Titanium'' Galvatron is a 3-inch-tall, non-transforming, die-cast metal figurine. He is based heavily on his cartoon model and has articulation in his neck, waist, shoulders, and wrists. His orange cannon and right arm from the elbow down are also removable.

::*[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/TitGalvatron/galvatron.htm ''More information on ''Titanium'' Galvatron at TFU.info'']

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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:RobotHeroes Galvatron Sunstreaker.jpg|right|thumb|"Hi, I'm better than you." "Yeah, but I'm crazier than you."]]
* '''Sunstreaker vs. Galvatron''' (2-pack, 2008)

:''Robot Heroes'' Galvatron is an adorably insane super-deformed figurine with articulation at the neck and shoulders. Glitch-tastically, he has a [[:Image:Decepticon_Shattered_Glass.png|red]] [[Transformers (2007)|movie]]-style Decepticon symbol.

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===Transformers - Mini Bust===
[[Image:DiamondGalvBust.jpeg|right|thumb|150px|What Zarak meant by "we shall see..."]]
* '''Galvatron''' (Diamond Select, 2008)
: The first large Galvatron merchandise item to see release in U.S. markets was this bust, sculpted by [[Art Asylum]] and released by [[Diamond Select Toys]] in 2008. It is a static depiction of Galvatron's head and collar region, limited to 1,000 pieces.

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[[Image:DST09_Galvatron_bust.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Hadooken!]]
* '''Galvatron''' (Diamond Select, 2009)
: Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2009, Galvatron was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of Art Asylum and limited to 1,000 pieces. He has his particle cannon posed forward either at an Autobot or perhaps one of his own underlings. His base is the planet devouring [[Unicron]] who originally created him from the dying [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron.]]

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Talk:Clio

2009-12-10T11:41:19Z

Kayb:

Siph, AGAIN, wins the Obscure Award for finding a character '''mentioned''' by a Transformer in an official publication. (So Jealous...) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:06, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't there a news van character that came out of the letters pages as well? [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 06:41, 10 December 2009 (EST)

Talk:Natron

2009-12-10T11:24:42Z

Kayb: /* Names from elsewhere */

So, why the move proposal? I think the guy is saying something closer to "Naytron" but it is hard to tell. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:16, 21 April 2009 (EDT)
:There is a move proposal because it is ''incredibly unlikely'' that he is actually named "Matron". "Nitron" (or maybe "Nightron") are both less crazy alternatives. (Of course, depending on who hears it, the bad guy vehicle could also be "Freezod"...) [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:29, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
::[[wikipedia:Natron|Natron]]? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:42, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Listening to it, it sounds to me like the narrator is just pronouncing "Nitron" poorly. At any rate, I find "Nitron" to be a far better "guess" than "Matron", which means nothing and is derived from nothing. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 01:32, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
::::Nitron sounds as good as anything. It could be related to "nitro" or something. "Matron" does mean something, but it is very un-Transformersy. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 08:32, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

== A proper poll ==

Watch [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCm5bOiI2R8 the commercial,] then post what you think the name is. (Don't read what other people say first, the goal is to gather un-influenced opinions.) '''Important note:''' The name is mentioned ''twice''.

* Natron -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:25, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* Natron (well, Naytron) - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:32, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* I hear it as Nitron or Natron—who is the white car, regardless. (Fixed the caption.) I suspect the article will be moved to "Natron" with a revised caveat about the guesswork for the name.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:47, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
:There isn't actually a white car in the picture. I just noticed. When the lights are on there is a white car and a red car. when the lights are off there is a blue car and a red car. On the box there is a yellow car and a blue car. I wonder if "colors may vary". But the white one is "Matron." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:00, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
::p154 of Alvarez's ''The Unofficial Guide to Transformers 1980's Through 1990's'' [http://emopanda.com/tmp/racing_set.jpg covers the racing kit], which should be helpful here. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:42, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* I hear Nitron/Natron (though, I prefer Nitron). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 12:01, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
** Sounds like "Naytron" to me... Considering that whole "nite glow" gimmick, though, I could get behind the name "Nitron." Sigh... I just wish some official publication could just be produced to clear this up. [[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 13:11, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* I hear "Nay-trahn". Spell as you will. I tried hearing other variations but kept hearing the same. The other sounded to me as "Freezod" --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 13:41, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* The more I listen, the more I hear an "N" sound at the start (yeah, "Matron" is my fault), but that is ''totally'' followed by an aaaayyyy sound, not an "i" sound. So, Natron/Naytron. Despite the sense that "Nitron" makes, it's just not what the guy's saying. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 14:55, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* Yeah, Nay-tron. Certainly we shouldn't be using "Matron," because that's an actual word that's pronounced differently. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:43, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* Natron, which according to my copy of the OED is pronounced the same way as in the advert. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 15:59, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
* Natron. And the other actually sounds more like "Freezog", for what that's worth. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:36, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

::And Natron (the mineral) is a sorta yellowy salt. (Freezon has to be a reference to the pre-production blue colors of the Decepticon toy... it makes ''no'' sense with the final red colors, so logically Natron should mesh up with the pre-production yellow colors.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:06, 23 April 2009 (EDT)
:::Actually, looking at the photos from the Alvarez book, I'd have thought "Freezon" was a bizarre corruption of "Frenzy", since the Decepticon car's face was based on Frenzy's. Doesn't explain how the Prowl-faced car became "Natron", though.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 18:19, 23 April 2009 (EDT)

* I totally hear Naytron. Especially the part where "the race is on ''between Natron'' and Freezon". The n-to-m consonant shift is usually pretty obvious and causes a change in speaking speed and tone--but nothing like that here. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 12:16, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

So are we moving to "Natron" or "Naytron"? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:27, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
:Nātron... More seriously, Naytron looks better by a little bit to me. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:33, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

* If Natron-the-mineral is pronounced the same way as the word the announcer uses in the commercial, then I agree with the notion of putting the article at Natron. However, I think it would help to point out the confusion over the name in the article itself, as well as elaborate our "we think it's Natron because the mineral is yellow and the art/prototype version of the toy was yellow" theory after the move. EDIT: We might also want to include the pronounciation somehow. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:08, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
::My copy of the OED says it's pronounced the same way, though gives a short 'a' as an alternative pronunciation. I'm not sure if there's a standard way, but the OED presents it as "neItr(ə)n" --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:30, 24 April 2009 (EDT)
:::In the absence of an official spelling... would you say that "Naytron" is a less 'ambiguous' spelling? In that it leaves less doubt about the pronunciation? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:44, 14 August 2009 (EDT)

== Names from elsewhere ==

I don't know how accurate this is, but I've heard the Autobot referred to as Glowvolt, and the Decepticon referred to as Burnvolt before, possibly the names they were given in one or more countries outside the US. Has anyone else heard this previously as well? I haven't seen anything to back this up, but it was something I've heard from a couple of folk some years ago, just wondered if there was anything to it. - [[User:Kayb|Kayb]] 06:24, 10 December 2009 (EST)

Talk:Natron

2009-12-10T11:24:00Z

Kayb: /* Names from elsewhere */

Talk:Natron

2009-12-10T11:23:09Z

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