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		<title>Talk:Dino</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: /* Split Mirage (ROTB)? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Why is this as (Movie) instead of (DOTM)? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 15:56, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Scroll down to the Merchandise section. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:16, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dino? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-ferrari-458-italia-is-172358/&lt;br /&gt;
Is this true, or complete bull?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 16:50, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Supposedly&#039;&#039;, this is pure truth. All I can say is... DEAR GOD, PLEASE NO.&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 23:07, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even if he&#039;s referred to as such in the movie, we usually stick to whatever names Hasbro gives them, as with [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]] and several ROTF Construticons. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:33, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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How about listing &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot; under &amp;quot;foreign names&amp;quot;? Probably not, I think, but it &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; be a good place for it, so I thought I&#039;d throw that out there. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:24, 30 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Then why call him Mirage if he appears to be called Dino?&lt;br /&gt;
:Because the novelization, comic adaptation &#039;&#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039;&#039; toys all refer to him as Mirage. He&#039;s only called Dino in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:02, 30 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alt mode ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is the toy a Ferrari?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 15:56, 7 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hard to tell with all that transluscent plastic drowning out the details. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:01, 7 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deluxe Toy? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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is there gonna be one?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== TF: Prime Cyberverse ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why isn&#039;t his Cyberverse toy mentioned on this page?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:25, 2 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Because it&#039;s possible it would go on a [[Mirage (Prime)]] page.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:35, 2 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think the toy is meant to be the movie incarnation of Mirage, since Mirage toy have the Prime name removed from the box just like Evac and Soundwave&lt;br /&gt;
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== hasbro considers him dino ==&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/549989-mirage-dino-tf4-28.html#post7316102 will the page be renamed or we will keep the Mirage name since the Mirage name was used more than the name Dino?&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://www.transformersclub.com/toyfair12/webfiles/DSC_0023.JPG.html] [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:33, 21 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Early script death ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is there not a note on his proposed death?--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 17:55, 15 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deadpool ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone notice that he looks like Deadpool?[[User:SirSpoonwave|Spoon]] 02:43, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:How? Aside from being black and red, how does he resemble Deadpool? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:10, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::He&#039;s Italian. -[[User:LV|LV]] 09:56, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inaccurate Toys  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are none of the toys for Dino Ferraris? [[User:Skywarp Prime|Skywarp Prime]] ([[User talk:Skywarp Prime|talk]]) 14:21, 16 September 2019 (EDT)Skywarp Prime&lt;br /&gt;
:Legitimate question: how old are you? Not trying to be mean, but almost all of the questions you are asking are answered directly in the article, including this one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:31, 16 September 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I can tell you are mentioning the thing I said on the Fallen page. I was just rather confused with what they were trying to say, and I hadn&#039;t noticed the link to the page explaining the term I didn&#039;t understand. [[User:Skywarp Prime|Skywarp Prime]] ([[User talk:Skywarp Prime|talk]]) 14:43, 16 September 2019 (EDT)Skywarp Prime&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, I&#039;m talking about this article as well. It very clearly states in both the toy and notes section that because Mattel held the Ferrari license at the time for &#039;&#039;Hot Wheels&#039;&#039;, Hasbro couldn&#039;t use the actual car. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:00, 16 September 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve looked very thoroughly in the toys section it does not mention the Mattel licensing issues, however, you were right about it mentioning the problems in the notes section. Is it possible in the future Hasbro could come out with an accurate Mirage figure?&lt;br /&gt;
:Not likely. Mattel would have to lose the Ferrari license and Hasbro would have to then get said license before they could make a toy that actually looked like a Ferrari. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 17:26, 16 September 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move to Dino ==&lt;br /&gt;
I agree with changing his name to &#039;&#039;&#039;Dino&#039;&#039;&#039; as it is the name spoken within the film and he now has three toys supporting this name. If this character was really meant to be called &#039;&#039;&#039;Mirage&#039;&#039;&#039; then I would think that HasTak would make more of an effort to support this which they haven&#039;t. I know he is loosely based off of the G1 character and even early concept art depicted him having the power of invisiblity, but the film itself doesn&#039;t support this ability at all. In conclusion I agree with the move to Dino and having &#039;&#039;&#039;(AKA Mirage)&#039;&#039;&#039; in the opening paragraph of his page. {{unsigned|Fanofcoolstuff27}}&lt;br /&gt;
:In my opinion it&#039;s mostly a matter of what Hasbro considers the &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; name to be. Brawl has consistently been &amp;quot;Brawl&amp;quot; on toys rather than &amp;quot;Devastator&amp;quot;, so I think we can assume that&#039;s still Hasbro&#039;s preference. Dino, by contrast, is now being called Dino rather than Mirage. (We have yet to see any updated toys of Que/Wheeljack, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if somewhere down the line we get an ST &amp;quot;Autobot Que&amp;quot; toy.) --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:19, 13 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oops, thanks for adding my signature, I made sure I had everything in check before posting and that still managed to slip my mind smh. And yeah, I believe Hasbro using &amp;quot;Devastator&amp;quot; for Brawl would also cause too much confusion for fans since we got a &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; Devastator in ROTF. Besides, all early concepts for the character and the naming from Hasbro was originally Brawl anyway, it was Michael Bay (and maybe a few others behind the scenes) who preferred the name Devastator, which I do think is pretty fitting for a tank Decepticon who single-handedly held off the Autobots until the other Decepticons arrived in Mission City.&lt;br /&gt;
::As for Hasbro using certain names as their preference would still indicate that Dino is the name we&#039;ll see the most, since we haven&#039;t seen him being called &amp;quot;Mirage&amp;quot; in any toys, merchandise or fiction since 2012 at the latest. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:50, 13 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::There&#039;s also the change in authority that&#039;s happened at Hasbro since DOTM to consider. Before, it was Aaron Archer and Friends who named the Cyberverse Legion and Speed Stars toys &amp;quot;Mirage&amp;quot; and made the tie-in comics and video games use that name, while its now the current team who are onboard with the onscreen name of &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot;, using it for both the Tiny Turbo Changer and the Studio Series figure, and don&#039;t seem to care all that much about the old team&#039;s insistence of the &amp;quot;Mirage&amp;quot; name. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:59, 13 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That is also very true, it would also explain the retcon with Skipjack now being Devastator&#039;s left leg instead of a yellow Rampage. Not to mention the fact that Hasbro based all the earlier toys for Rampage off of the concept art for the old yellow design and possibly made the connection much like they did with all the other Constructicons (Mixmaster and Long Haul for example) and made Rampage the same character as at the time they didn&#039;t know the finished Rampage in the film was made orange/red. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:13, 13 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, so my position on the name change has been swayed after seeing the images of the kill card props for AOE specifically stating him as &amp;quot;Mirage&amp;quot;. This would indicate that he was only ever called &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot; as a nickname (in-universe of course) due to his Ferrari alternate form. &lt;br /&gt;
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With that cleared up more or less, on a prop used specifically for the film, should we remove the move suggestion at the top of the page? (I&#039;m not entirely sure who added it or when it was added). [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 04:19, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:A minor prop and your speculation are not definitive statements. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 06:55, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fair enough, where do you stand on the name change? [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:37, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I for one believe that DOTM&#039;s namedrop weights more than the AOE&#039;s playing card that we &#039;&#039;barely&#039;&#039; get to see in the movie. We also have more toys named Dino rather than Mirage by now, so I would be okay with the move. [[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 12:35, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Even if &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot; is just his nickname or alias, it can still be the name of this article since its the more prominent moniker. We have Leland Bishop&#039;s article at &amp;quot;Silas&amp;quot;, after all. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 17:17, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, if there&#039;s no objections, I&#039;ll move this in the next few days...? --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:46, 17 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sounds good. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 15:39, 17 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a little weird to me - we haven&#039;t moved all the many G1 characters whose modern toys have different names... --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 08:34, 20 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Those names were changed due to trademark reasons. Dino&#039;s name was used in most fiction and with most of his toys supporting this name, means that it&#039;s the name HasTak prefers to use for the character. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 14:26, 20 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This situation is more in line with the Jetfire/Skyfire debate from back when the character was first introduced in G1 (both names existed since basically the character&#039;s introduction), rather than any recent name changes to characters who had only one name established for decades prior. [[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 14:31, 20 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Split Mirage (ROTB)? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m not sure if this might prove controversial (apologies if so), but it seems reasonable to me to split off ROTB Mirage from this page. Two main reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
*Mirage&#039;s prominence in the marketing for ROTB means this page will likely become popular with casual viewers over the next few months, and it seems needlessly confusing for these people looking for info on the blue Porsche guy named Mirage to be redirected to a page on this red Ferrari guy named Dino (who also goes by Mirage sometimes, please see the notes section to understand why you are on this page)&lt;br /&gt;
*Given that all recent official material has referred to Dino as such, it seems reasonable to assume that Hasbro/Paramount considers the Mirage name obsolete for Dino, and would thus view ROTB Mirage as a different character. Obviously, not working for either company, I can&#039;t be 100% certain on this, and am willing to be proven wrong once the movie releases if they do indeed decide to connect the two.&lt;br /&gt;
Does anyone have any points against the split? It just seems a lot more casual user friendly to keep them separate, at least for now. [[User:BT383|BT383]] ([[User talk:BT383|talk]]) 14:37, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think that makes sense. I would also argue that Wheeljack prrrrrrobably isn&#039;t meant to be the G1-looking guy from Bumblebee &#039;&#039;or&#039;&#039; the Robot Einstein from ROTF, but I guess we don&#039;t actually have any characterisation for Wheeljack yet, so it&#039;s a &#039;&#039;bit&#039;&#039; more ambiguous. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 15:05, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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In this particular situation, I don’t necessarily disagree. What I do disagree with is the notion that just because Hasbro decides something retroactively means we have to bend over backwards to accommodate it. It’s entirely against the point of the wiki to do so, and it’s become more and more of a recurring point that people have tried to push and I for one am absolutely pushing for nipping that sort of behavior in the bud. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:20, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow. Do you mean &amp;quot;Hasbro considers Mirage to be &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot;?&amp;quot; Because that&#039;s more of an instance of &amp;quot;previously, the toys and fiction didn&#039;t line up, so we defaulted to the Toyline Name; but now the fiction name is being used in the toyline, so the one that&#039;s used across both should take precedence&amp;quot;. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:28, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m talking in general. If it weren&#039;t for the ROTB guy, I would not be convinced that because Hasbro keeps calling him Dino, that his namespace should be at Dino. Just because Hasbro does something now doesn&#039;t erase the original intent. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:07, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t it be &amp;quot;(Movie)&amp;quot;, considering that silly 3D card thing? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It should probably be split into 3 segments then. Movie for the 3D Battle Card, Dino for DOTM and Mirage (ROTB) for the one in the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
::Or just have ROTB Mirage have a toggle switch section here so we don&#039;t necassarily have to split. Just like with UT Mirage and Tidal Wave.--[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 21:14, 18 May 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::good god no we&#039;re not splitting the 3D card into its own page --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:05, 18 May 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
We ABSOLUTELY don&#039;t need to put any Mirages at (Movie) because of the card thing. Just &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Mirage (ROTB)&amp;quot;. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 02:51, 19 May 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, the card can go wherever, who cares, but ROTB Mirage absolutely needs to be separated from Dino. [[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 05:58, 20 May 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::True. To play safe tho, let&#039;s just use the approach we took for the &amp;quot;intended to be a different character but was repurposed to be the same guy&amp;quot; Energon characters like Energon roadblock, Energon Mirage etc.[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 06:12, 20 May 2023 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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Surely it is clear enough at this point that ROTB Mirage needs his own page separate from Dino, yes? I mean right now anyone looking up movie info and following the Mirage link from the main article cast list gets sent to this page with its opening paragraph all about the random red guy with the different name from an earlier movie.[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 10:20, 7 June 2023 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Dino</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Why is this as (Movie) instead of (DOTM)? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 15:56, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Scroll down to the Merchandise section. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:16, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dino? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-ferrari-458-italia-is-172358/&lt;br /&gt;
Is this true, or complete bull?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 16:50, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Supposedly&#039;&#039;, this is pure truth. All I can say is... DEAR GOD, PLEASE NO.&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 23:07, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Even if he&#039;s referred to as such in the movie, we usually stick to whatever names Hasbro gives them, as with [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]] and several ROTF Construticons. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:33, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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How about listing &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot; under &amp;quot;foreign names&amp;quot;? Probably not, I think, but it &#039;&#039;might&#039;&#039; be a good place for it, so I thought I&#039;d throw that out there. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:24, 30 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Then why call him Mirage if he appears to be called Dino?&lt;br /&gt;
:Because the novelization, comic adaptation &#039;&#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039;&#039; toys all refer to him as Mirage. He&#039;s only called Dino in the film. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:02, 30 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Alt mode ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is the toy a Ferrari?-[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 15:56, 7 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hard to tell with all that transluscent plastic drowning out the details. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:01, 7 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deluxe Toy? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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is there gonna be one?&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== TF: Prime Cyberverse ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why isn&#039;t his Cyberverse toy mentioned on this page?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:25, 2 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Because it&#039;s possible it would go on a [[Mirage (Prime)]] page.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:35, 2 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I think the toy is meant to be the movie incarnation of Mirage, since Mirage toy have the Prime name removed from the box just like Evac and Soundwave&lt;br /&gt;
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== hasbro considers him dino ==&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/549989-mirage-dino-tf4-28.html#post7316102 will the page be renamed or we will keep the Mirage name since the Mirage name was used more than the name Dino?&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://www.transformersclub.com/toyfair12/webfiles/DSC_0023.JPG.html] [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:33, 21 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Early script death ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is there not a note on his proposed death?--[[Special:Contributions/24.69.64.254|24.69.64.254]] 17:55, 15 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Deadpool ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone notice that he looks like Deadpool?[[User:SirSpoonwave|Spoon]] 02:43, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:How? Aside from being black and red, how does he resemble Deadpool? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:10, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::He&#039;s Italian. -[[User:LV|LV]] 09:56, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inaccurate Toys  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why are none of the toys for Dino Ferraris? [[User:Skywarp Prime|Skywarp Prime]] ([[User talk:Skywarp Prime|talk]]) 14:21, 16 September 2019 (EDT)Skywarp Prime&lt;br /&gt;
:Legitimate question: how old are you? Not trying to be mean, but almost all of the questions you are asking are answered directly in the article, including this one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:31, 16 September 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I can tell you are mentioning the thing I said on the Fallen page. I was just rather confused with what they were trying to say, and I hadn&#039;t noticed the link to the page explaining the term I didn&#039;t understand. [[User:Skywarp Prime|Skywarp Prime]] ([[User talk:Skywarp Prime|talk]]) 14:43, 16 September 2019 (EDT)Skywarp Prime&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, I&#039;m talking about this article as well. It very clearly states in both the toy and notes section that because Mattel held the Ferrari license at the time for &#039;&#039;Hot Wheels&#039;&#039;, Hasbro couldn&#039;t use the actual car. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:00, 16 September 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve looked very thoroughly in the toys section it does not mention the Mattel licensing issues, however, you were right about it mentioning the problems in the notes section. Is it possible in the future Hasbro could come out with an accurate Mirage figure?&lt;br /&gt;
:Not likely. Mattel would have to lose the Ferrari license and Hasbro would have to then get said license before they could make a toy that actually looked like a Ferrari. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 17:26, 16 September 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move to Dino ==&lt;br /&gt;
I agree with changing his name to &#039;&#039;&#039;Dino&#039;&#039;&#039; as it is the name spoken within the film and he now has three toys supporting this name. If this character was really meant to be called &#039;&#039;&#039;Mirage&#039;&#039;&#039; then I would think that HasTak would make more of an effort to support this which they haven&#039;t. I know he is loosely based off of the G1 character and even early concept art depicted him having the power of invisiblity, but the film itself doesn&#039;t support this ability at all. In conclusion I agree with the move to Dino and having &#039;&#039;&#039;(AKA Mirage)&#039;&#039;&#039; in the opening paragraph of his page. {{unsigned|Fanofcoolstuff27}}&lt;br /&gt;
:In my opinion it&#039;s mostly a matter of what Hasbro considers the &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; name to be. Brawl has consistently been &amp;quot;Brawl&amp;quot; on toys rather than &amp;quot;Devastator&amp;quot;, so I think we can assume that&#039;s still Hasbro&#039;s preference. Dino, by contrast, is now being called Dino rather than Mirage. (We have yet to see any updated toys of Que/Wheeljack, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if somewhere down the line we get an ST &amp;quot;Autobot Que&amp;quot; toy.) --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:19, 13 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oops, thanks for adding my signature, I made sure I had everything in check before posting and that still managed to slip my mind smh. And yeah, I believe Hasbro using &amp;quot;Devastator&amp;quot; for Brawl would also cause too much confusion for fans since we got a &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; Devastator in ROTF. Besides, all early concepts for the character and the naming from Hasbro was originally Brawl anyway, it was Michael Bay (and maybe a few others behind the scenes) who preferred the name Devastator, which I do think is pretty fitting for a tank Decepticon who single-handedly held off the Autobots until the other Decepticons arrived in Mission City.&lt;br /&gt;
::As for Hasbro using certain names as their preference would still indicate that Dino is the name we&#039;ll see the most, since we haven&#039;t seen him being called &amp;quot;Mirage&amp;quot; in any toys, merchandise or fiction since 2012 at the latest. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:50, 13 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::There&#039;s also the change in authority that&#039;s happened at Hasbro since DOTM to consider. Before, it was Aaron Archer and Friends who named the Cyberverse Legion and Speed Stars toys &amp;quot;Mirage&amp;quot; and made the tie-in comics and video games use that name, while its now the current team who are onboard with the onscreen name of &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot;, using it for both the Tiny Turbo Changer and the Studio Series figure, and don&#039;t seem to care all that much about the old team&#039;s insistence of the &amp;quot;Mirage&amp;quot; name. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:59, 13 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That is also very true, it would also explain the retcon with Skipjack now being Devastator&#039;s left leg instead of a yellow Rampage. Not to mention the fact that Hasbro based all the earlier toys for Rampage off of the concept art for the old yellow design and possibly made the connection much like they did with all the other Constructicons (Mixmaster and Long Haul for example) and made Rampage the same character as at the time they didn&#039;t know the finished Rampage in the film was made orange/red. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:13, 13 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Alright, so my position on the name change has been swayed after seeing the images of the kill card props for AOE specifically stating him as &amp;quot;Mirage&amp;quot;. This would indicate that he was only ever called &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot; as a nickname (in-universe of course) due to his Ferrari alternate form. &lt;br /&gt;
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With that cleared up more or less, on a prop used specifically for the film, should we remove the move suggestion at the top of the page? (I&#039;m not entirely sure who added it or when it was added). [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 04:19, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:A minor prop and your speculation are not definitive statements. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 06:55, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fair enough, where do you stand on the name change? [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:37, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I for one believe that DOTM&#039;s namedrop weights more than the AOE&#039;s playing card that we &#039;&#039;barely&#039;&#039; get to see in the movie. We also have more toys named Dino rather than Mirage by now, so I would be okay with the move. [[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 12:35, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Even if &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot; is just his nickname or alias, it can still be the name of this article since its the more prominent moniker. We have Leland Bishop&#039;s article at &amp;quot;Silas&amp;quot;, after all. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 17:17, 15 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Okay, if there&#039;s no objections, I&#039;ll move this in the next few days...? --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:46, 17 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sounds good. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 15:39, 17 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a little weird to me - we haven&#039;t moved all the many G1 characters whose modern toys have different names... --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 08:34, 20 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Those names were changed due to trademark reasons. Dino&#039;s name was used in most fiction and with most of his toys supporting this name, means that it&#039;s the name HasTak prefers to use for the character. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 14:26, 20 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This situation is more in line with the Jetfire/Skyfire debate from back when the character was first introduced in G1 (both names existed since basically the character&#039;s introduction), rather than any recent name changes to characters who had only one name established for decades prior. [[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 14:31, 20 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Split Mirage (ROTB)? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m not sure if this might prove controversial (apologies if so), but it seems reasonable to me to split off ROTB Mirage from this page. Two main reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
*Mirage&#039;s prominence in the marketing for ROTB means this page will likely become popular with casual viewers over the next few months, and it seems needlessly confusing for these people looking for info on the blue Porsche guy named Mirage to be redirected to a page on this red Ferrari guy named Dino (who also goes by Mirage sometimes, please see the notes section to understand why you are on this page)&lt;br /&gt;
*Given that all recent official material has referred to Dino as such, it seems reasonable to assume that Hasbro/Paramount considers the Mirage name obsolete for Dino, and would thus view ROTB Mirage as a different character. Obviously, not working for either company, I can&#039;t be 100% certain on this, and am willing to be proven wrong once the movie releases if they do indeed decide to connect the two.&lt;br /&gt;
Does anyone have any points against the split? It just seems a lot more casual user friendly to keep them separate, at least for now. [[User:BT383|BT383]] ([[User talk:BT383|talk]]) 14:37, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think that makes sense. I would also argue that Wheeljack prrrrrrobably isn&#039;t meant to be the G1-looking guy from Bumblebee &#039;&#039;or&#039;&#039; the Robot Einstein from ROTF, but I guess we don&#039;t actually have any characterisation for Wheeljack yet, so it&#039;s a &#039;&#039;bit&#039;&#039; more ambiguous. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 15:05, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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In this particular situation, I don’t necessarily disagree. What I do disagree with is the notion that just because Hasbro decides something retroactively means we have to bend over backwards to accommodate it. It’s entirely against the point of the wiki to do so, and it’s become more and more of a recurring point that people have tried to push and I for one am absolutely pushing for nipping that sort of behavior in the bud. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:20, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not sure I follow. Do you mean &amp;quot;Hasbro considers Mirage to be &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot;?&amp;quot; Because that&#039;s more of an instance of &amp;quot;previously, the toys and fiction didn&#039;t line up, so we defaulted to the Toyline Name; but now the fiction name is being used in the toyline, so the one that&#039;s used across both should take precedence&amp;quot;. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:28, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m talking in general. If it weren&#039;t for the ROTB guy, I would not be convinced that because Hasbro keeps calling him Dino, that his namespace should be at Dino. Just because Hasbro does something now doesn&#039;t erase the original intent. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:07, 13 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Shouldn&#039;t it be &amp;quot;(Movie)&amp;quot;, considering that silly 3D card thing? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:30, 21 February 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It should probably be split into 3 segments then. Movie for the 3D Battle Card, Dino for DOTM and Mirage (ROTB) for the one in the movie.&lt;br /&gt;
::Or just have ROTB Mirage have a toggle switch section here so we don&#039;t necassarily have to split. Just like with UT Mirage and Tidal Wave.--[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 21:14, 18 May 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::good god no we&#039;re not splitting the 3D card into its own page --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:05, 18 May 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
We ABSOLUTELY don&#039;t need to put any Mirages at (Movie) because of the card thing. Just &amp;quot;Dino&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Mirage (ROTB)&amp;quot;. [[User:McBaggins|McBaggins]] ([[User talk:McBaggins|talk]]) 02:51, 19 May 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, the card can go wherever, who cares, but ROTB Mirage absolutely needs to be separated from Dino. [[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 05:58, 20 May 2023 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
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&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this Heatwave:&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F]&lt;br /&gt;
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for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s due to the fact that it uses the [[Evergreen]] art primarily used for G1 media.—[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 17:45, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I get that, but nevertheless, you have Rescue Bots redecos and RB-style new molds, under a label &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; which has already been used for Rescue Bots toys, and even the product description...&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Imagine helping the Autobots save the day! These toys are ready to take to the streets and charge to the rescue! Kids ages 3 and up can pretend there is a dangerous situation unfolding and convert the brave 4.5-inch action figure from a robot to a vehicle they can imagine racing to the scene for a courageous rescue.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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...is straight-up Rescue Bots stuff. So, like I said, I am dubious about grouping this into G1 regards of said art.--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 20:32, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just reads like generic toddler toy writeup. We have things like Buzzworthy Bumblebee and Generations that don&#039;t indicate &amp;quot;continuity families&amp;quot;, so reuse of labeling for young kid toys isn&#039;t really that convincing to me. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:27, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Okay, but since CHT is somewhat like Buzzworthy about disregarding continuity families, couldn&#039;t we still consider at least Prime and Bumblebee to be their Aligned selves? They&#039;re literally the same toys from Rescue Bots being rereleased again after multiple other rereleases, just like the Heatwave toy mentioned above. It&#039;s similar to how we consider the Buzzworthy Crash Combiners to still be their RID selves even though their packaging doesn&#039;t point that out. Grimlock is a little dubious to me but I&#039;m fine with him being either G1 or RBA, and Primal could still follow the &amp;quot;it&#039;s just a new kid-friendly toy of the same old character&amp;quot; logic and be included in the BW character page. Any thoughts? --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 22:37, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::When I said &amp;quot;straight-up Rescue Bots stuff&amp;quot; I meant &amp;quot;this is the same exact text used previously for Rescue Bots product descriptions, which is why it&#039;s about imaging your toys racing to do rescues and so forth.&amp;quot; I mean to me this all reads as Rescue Bots/RBA Continued Just Without The Name, regardless of the art. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::To add an additional point to my argument that these should be classed as RB rather than G1, here&#039;s an Entertainment Earth listing for them as &amp;quot;Transformers Rescue Bots All-Stars Rescan Wave 3&amp;quot; [https://www.entertainmentearth.com/product/transformers-rescue-bots-allstars-rescan-wave-3-case-of-6/hsf0719c] --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:18, 17 March 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Uh, I&#039;ve read this discussion before I got an account, and I thought this might be important, or it might be a different toyline. Idk, because it isn&#039;t listed anywhere on the wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:RBA Classic Heroes Bee.jpeg|thumb|upright=1.22]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::: That&#039;s all I have to say. [[User:ChristalIsMe|ChristalIsMe]] ([[User talk:ChristalIsMe|talk]]) 13:50, 13 August 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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So I am now reversing my earlier argued position that these guys should be classed as Rescue Bots and not G1, given the inclusion of Megatron in the line isn&#039;t very RB-ish and the distinction that can be seen between the earlier &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; toys which still carried Rescue Bots Academy branding and then the later ones which do not. This article still needs updating to reflect that &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; refers to to two things: the earlier RBA toys with the label and then the subsequent on-it&#039;s-own-in-Evergreen-land line. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 18:55, 17 August 2022 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Transformers: Generations (toyline)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: /* Shattered Glass Collection (2021–) */  Exo-Suit, capitalized and everything, is the toy&amp;#039;s official name&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig3|Generations}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Generations 2015 Toyline logo.png|thumb|upright=0.9|Insignia-like logo used on packaging for late 2014-onward &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; toys, in combination with the [[:File:Transformers 2014 logo.png|new generic &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; logo]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Generations&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a branding applied to several collector-oriented toylines. The name was first introduced for a specific line of figures launched in 2010, but as the amount of collector-focused product released by Hasbro has increased over time it has become more of a generic label, used consistently since mid-2012 across multiple different series. &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; was predated by the earlier 2006 &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]&#039;&#039; and 2008 [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|&#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039;]] lines, along with much of the 2010 [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;]] line. These toylines all share a focus on celebrating the history of the brand, creating new toys of older &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; [[character]]s (usually from [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]], but occasionally later series).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Overview==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:ClassicsStarscream toy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9||&#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; Starscream&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Powerglideuniversetoy.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9||&#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; Powerglide&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Although Hasbro had dabbled with nostalgia-based lines in the past—such as with the likes of the 2003 &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]&#039;&#039; line, &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]&#039;&#039;—the back-to-basics approach used by &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; proved an unexpected hit with fans. Conceived as a short line of homages to bide time before the delayed release of [[Transformers (film)|the first live-action &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; film]], &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; modernized many popular characters, and after the runaway success of the first movie Hasbro followed it up with &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039;, expanding its scope to cover characters from the likes of &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]&#039;&#039; for [[Transformers brand|the brand]]&#039;s 25th anniversary. [[TakaraTomy]] released their own version of these lines in the form of &#039;&#039;[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]&#039;&#039;. By the time of &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;, fans widely used the acronym &#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;CHUG&amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Classics, Henkei!, Universe, Generations&#039;&#039;) to refer to these lines as a whole, or as a label for their shared aesthetic—but this acronym quickly stopped being comprehensive as more lines came and went (with various &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; sublines covering the vast majority of toys released in this design paradigm), and never made it into official use.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TF2010 deluxe SpecialOpsJazz.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9||&#039;&#039;Reveal the Shield&#039;&#039; Special Ops Jazz]]&lt;br /&gt;
Between movies, a generic [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toyline]] ran to keep movie-style figures on shelves—but particularly with its &#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2010 toyline)#Hasbro Reveal the Shield subline|Reveal the Shield]]&#039;&#039; [[subline imprint]], which ran concurrently with &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;, Hasbro also used it as an outlet to release even more toys in the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; style. Various molds were [[retool|shared]] between the two lines, such as the [[Tracks (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Turbo Tracks]]/[[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations|Wheeljack]] and [[Wreck-Gar (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Wreck-Gar]]/[[Junkyard (G1)#Generations|Junkheap]] molds. A third concurrent line, [[Power Core Combiners]], also took inspiration from several Generation 1 characters. Most of the toys from this time were released by Takara in their &#039;&#039;[[Transformers United]]&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;[[Transformers United#United EX|United EX]]&#039;&#039; toylines.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; was envisioned as an outlet for toys from Hasbro&#039;s burgeoning [[Aligned continuity family|&amp;quot;Aligned&amp;quot;]] continuity family, with several toys of &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; characters being released in the initial lineup, but the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]&#039;&#039; cartoon wound up getting [[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|a fully-fledged toyline of its own]]. &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; was relaunched in mid-2012 to focus solely on the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; sequel game; though Takara had released the first game&#039;s toys in &#039;&#039;United&#039;&#039; simply as their [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] selves, they too adopted the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; banner for the second game.&lt;br /&gt;
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For the brand&#039;s 30th anniversary, Hasbro again expanded the line&#039;s scope with &#039;&#039;[[Thrilling 30]]&#039;&#039;, which took [[2005 IDW continuity|IDW Publishing&#039;s comic series]] as a principal source of inspiration (even including comics with many of the toys). Much like &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; before it, the line also drew from a wide range of older franchises for the brand&#039;s 30th anniversary, and had releases across the full spectrum of size classes. A couple of waves in, Takara launched &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Transformers Legends]]&#039;&#039; as their equivalent, also releasing redecoes of some of the Voyager toys as part of their &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Cloud]]&#039;&#039; series. Also in 2014, half of the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|Age of Extinction]]&#039;&#039; was delineated separately from the more gimmick-laden assortments, with the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; name appearing on the packaging.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:CombinerWarstoy-Ruckus.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9||&#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; [[Ruckus (G1)#Timelines|Grabuge]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]&#039;&#039; (and its Takara equivalent, &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]&#039;&#039;) was the first &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; line to incorporate a fully-fledged [[play pattern]], and since then every line has had some shared [[gimmick]] across the various size classes. For instance, &#039;&#039;[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]&#039;&#039; brought back the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] concept, with all toys in the line turning into vehicles or bases for the smaller robots. Beginning with &#039;&#039;[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]&#039;&#039;, the longstanding practise of Hasbro and Takara releasing their own distinct versions of the toys was axed, with the toys sold being identical on both sides of the world. These three toylines made up the &#039;&#039;[[Prime Wars Trilogy]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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By this point, the toy market had changed significantly enough since &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; that entire mass-retail lines aimed at collectors were a much safer prospect. The &#039;&#039;Premier Edition&#039;&#039; assortments of the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: The Last Knight (toyline)|The Last Knight]]&#039;&#039; toyline were replaced by &#039;&#039;[[Studio Series]]&#039;&#039;, explicitly under the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; banner once more, a dedicated line of new screen-accurate toys of characters from across the entire [[live-action film series]]. Series 3-5 of &#039;&#039;[[Tiny Turbo Changers]]&#039;&#039; were similarly given the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; logo, co-branded &#039;&#039;Movie Edition&#039;&#039;, and the super-deformed collectible series &#039;&#039;[[Alt-Modes]]&#039;&#039; was entirely sold as &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; product. Meanwhile, the &#039;&#039;[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (franchise)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]&#039;&#039; (not to be confused with the earlier video game, though its first instalment—&#039;&#039;[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]&#039;&#039;—was similarly set on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]) ushered in an age of unprecedented adherence to the [[character model]]s of the &#039;80s. Many toys with Cybertronian alt-modes were heavily retooled with more typical Earth-based vehicle modes for &#039;&#039;[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]&#039;&#039;. Finally, &#039;&#039;[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Kingdom]]&#039;&#039; brought back an unprecedented amount of &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; characters.&lt;br /&gt;
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To make way for those &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; characters, and with the well of onscreen characters from the movies mostly tapped, Hasbro once again turned to their movie line as an outlet for more Generation 1 product—with &#039;&#039;Studio Series&#039;&#039; 86 featuring characters from the animated &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;. Other lines released in this period included the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Collaborative|Collaborative]]&#039;&#039; series of pop-culture crossover figures, the [[Action Master]]-like &#039;&#039;[[Robot Enhanced Design]]&#039;&#039; series, and the &#039;&#039;Titans Return / Legends&#039;&#039; redeco series &#039;&#039;Retro Headmasters&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The mainlines have always been complemented by lines of exclusive redecoes and retools. Beginning with the [[BotCon 2007]] box set, [[Fun Publications]] had often aimed to directly complement Hasbro&#039;s releases with their &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Transformers Timelines]]&#039;&#039; exclusives, offering niche characters in a similar style (sometimes based on unrealised ideas from Hasbro) until their loss of the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; license in 2016, the same/only year Fun Publications toys were primarily branded under &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;, specifically &#039;&#039;Combiner Wars&#039;&#039;. Meanwhile, Hasbro&#039;s &amp;quot;[[#GDO|Global Development Organization]]&amp;quot; released a handful of similar toys in Asian markets, and later began producing budget toys of popular characters via &#039;&#039;[[#Cyber Series (2015–2018)|Cyber Series]]&#039;&#039;. In the west, Hasbro released a variety of redecoes for &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Platinum Edition|Platinum Edition]]&#039;&#039; (which in its later years, was folded into &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;) and the generic 2014 &#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2014 toyline)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; toyline, the latter of which eventually morphed into the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Authentics|Authentics]]&#039;&#039; budget line. Starting in late 2018, Hasbro&#039;s own &#039;&#039;[[Generations Selects (toyline)|Generations Selects]]&#039;&#039; range took over the &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; niche: premium redecoes and retools (usually as more obscure characters) sold in brown cardboard boxes.&lt;br /&gt;
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===TakaraTomy lines===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Transformers: Generations (Japan)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF-UW07-Bruticus.jpg|thumb|upright=0.9||&#039;&#039;Unite Warriors&#039;&#039; Bruticus&#039;&#039;]]&lt;br /&gt;
In Japan, [[TakaraTomy]] employed a constantly-shifting approach to releasing molds sold under Hasbro&#039;s &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; branding. Their first go was &#039;&#039;[[Transformers United]]&#039;&#039;, which sold versions of the toys sold under the original 2010 incarnation of &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;, along with &#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2010 toyline)#Hasbro Reveal the Shield subline|Reveal the Shield]]&#039;&#039; molds. All toys, regardless of provenance, were identified as traditional Generation 1 characters. For whatever reason, TakaraTomy decided to end &#039;&#039;United&#039;&#039;, using &#039;&#039;[[Power Core Combiners]]&#039;&#039; molds to fill the gap (as &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;United EX&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;) till their newer line, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generations (Japan)|Transformers: Generations]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. This line took on the branding and visual elements used by Hasbro, selling the &#039;&#039;Fall of Cybertron&#039;&#039; subline and the first half of &#039;&#039;Thrilling 30&#039;&#039;. This toyline would also see a short life, only lasting a bit longer than a year being being replaced by &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]&#039;&#039;, which cemented its own identity by also releasing [[Transformers Legends (comic)|regular accompanying fiction]] (both online and packed in with toys) that was generally set in [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]. It would also feature many unique figures that had no Hasbro counterpart. Once &#039;&#039;[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]&#039;&#039; came around, TakaraTomy started a new line, &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Unite Warriors|Unite Warriors]]&#039;&#039;, to collect all of the traditional combiner characters while putting their own twists on the &amp;quot;newer&amp;quot; combiners. &#039;&#039;[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]&#039;&#039; did not receive the same treatment, instead being covered wholesale by &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039;. Throughout &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Unite Warriors&#039;&#039;, molds that did not fit TakaraTomy&#039;s paradigm for those lines were shunted to &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)#Adventure Series|Adventure]]&#039;&#039;, the Japanese counterpart to the 2015 &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; toyline.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; continued till &#039;&#039;[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]&#039;&#039;, which heralded a new era of marketing alignment between Hasbro and TakaraTomy where they would sell mostly the same Hasbro-initiated product. This is the situation ever since, with TakaraTomy only eking out a few figures of their own, such as a small series of &#039;&#039;[[Generations Selects (toyline)|Generations Selects]]&#039;&#039; figures and the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Premium Finish|Premium Finish]]&#039;&#039; line—all sold through the [[TakaraTomy Mall]] online store. However, thanks to the marketing alignment, those products are also sold by Hasbro via their [[Hasbro Pulse]] website, allowing Western customers equal access to TakaraTomy product.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Original line (2010–2011)==&lt;br /&gt;
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The initial &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Generations&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; line featured only [[Size class|Deluxe Class]] toys, and included both characters from the concurrently released &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; video game, and “modernised G1” figures in the spirit of the previous &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; toylines. In a first for the franchise, the [[Drift (G1)#Generations|Drift]] toy and its [[Blurr (G1)#Generations|Blurr]] [[retool]] were based directly on designs created by [[Guido Guidi]] for [[2005 IDW continuity|IDW&#039;s comic series]]. The earlier waves of figures sported advertising for [[Hub Network|The Hub]] or &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Deluxe Class===&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Bumblebee (WFC)/toys#Generations|Cybertronian Bumblebee]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Drift (G1)#Generations|Autobot Drift]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys#Generations|Cybertronian Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Thrust (G1)/toys#Generations|Thrust]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Straxus (G1)#Generations|Darkmount]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (WFC)/toys#Generations|Cybertronian Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Red Alert (G1)/toys#Generations|Red Alert]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Soundwave (WFC)/toys#Generations|Cybertronian Soundwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 4&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Blurr (G1)/toys#Generations|Blurr]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Dirge (G1)/toys#Generations|Dirge]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; rowspan=2|[[File:Generationstoy-CybertronianMegatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Deluxe Cybertronian Megatron]]&lt;br /&gt;
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|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 5&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Generations|Cliffjumper]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Skullgrin#Generations|Skullgrin]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Thunderwing (G1)#Generations|Thunderwing]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 6&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations|Scourge]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Kup (G1)/toys#Generations|Sergeant Kup]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 7&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Generations|Thundercracker]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Generations|Wheeljack]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 8&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Warpath (G1)/toys#Generations|Warpath]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 9&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Junkyard (G1)#Generations|Junkheap]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Black Shadow (G1)#Generations|Sky Shadow]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{note|[[Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us]] and online retailers like Entertainment Earth and [[BigBadToyStore]] received special cases containing only Cybertronian Optimus Prime and Cybertronian Bumblebee as a promotional tie in for the release of the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; video game before the general release of the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; toyline.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Exclusives===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:GenerationsAsianDeluxes.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|&#039;&#039;Top&#039;&#039;: Asian market Deluxe packaging&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Bottom&#039;&#039;: North American Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us packaging]]&lt;br /&gt;
In mid-[[2012]], Hasbro&#039;s Asian division released a variety of [[redeco]]es and [[retool]]s in their markets such as [[China]], Singapore, and the Philippines. This lineup, which featured the same general packaging design as the 2010–2011 figures, introduced the first non-Deluxe toys in the line (as &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; had been limited to the Deluxe price point up to that point). Western online retailers referred to these figures under the mysterious term &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;GDO&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;, which was later revealed to be an abbreviation for &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Global Development Organization&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;gdo&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/637547-i-found-out-what-gdo-means.html TFW2005 thread] containing an answer by Hasbro&#039;s customer service regarding the meaning of the term &amp;quot;GDO&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasbro&#039;s United States and Canadian divisions later decided to release all these figures in North America as well, as a &#039;&#039;massive&#039;&#039; batch of [[Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us]] [[exclusive]]s for the 2012 holiday shopping season. Strangely, while the Asian market versions were released in standard English-only packaging, the versions available in the United States and Canada came in [[Multilingual packaging|bilingual]] English/Chinese packaging. Also, the Deluxes came packaged in their [[alternate mode]]s, whereas the Asian versions were packaged in [[robot mode]].&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Note|The Leader Class figures were only released in &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; packaging in Hasbro&#039;s Asian markets. While their United States releases were canceled, they &#039;&#039;were&#039;&#039; released in Canada, albeit in bilingual &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]&#039;&#039; packaging with additional &#039;&#039;[[Movie Trilogy Series]]&#039;&#039; labels for whatever reason.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Legend Class&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Bluestreak (G1)/toys#Generations|Bluestreak]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Hoist (G1)/toys#Generations|Hoist]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Motormaster (G1)#Generations|Motorbreath]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Legends|Thundercracker]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Scout Class&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Brawl (G1)/toys#GDO|Decepticon Brawl]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Dead End (G1)#Generations|Dead End]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Laserbeak (G1)/toys#Generations|Laserbeak]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Sandstorm (G1)#Generations|Sandstorm]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Deluxe Class&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys#Generations|Cliffjumper]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Springer (G1)/toys#Generations|Autobot Springer]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Swerve (G1)#Generations|Swerve]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Wheelie (G1)#Generations|Wheelie]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Voyager Class&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Hot Spot (G1)#Generations|Protectobot Hot Spot]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#Generations|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Powerdive#Generations|Powerdive]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Brawn (G1)/toys#Generations|Brawn]] (&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;canceled&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; rowspan=2|[[File:Transformers china hot spot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Voyager Class &amp;quot;Protectobot Hot Spot&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; named &amp;quot;Hot Zone&amp;quot; unlike previous toys.]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Leader Class&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Generations|Ironhide]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Starscream (Movie)/toys#Generations|Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==&#039;&#039;Fall of Cybertron&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Thrilling 30&#039;&#039; (2012–2014)==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Fall of Cybertron&#039;&#039; (2012–2013)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|Fall of Cybertron}}{{anchor|FOC}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Nav-foc}}&lt;br /&gt;
After a six-month hiatus, the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; line was relaunched in mid-2012, starting out with the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations: Fall of Cybertron&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; toyline with eight Deluxe Class figures, in a line made specifically for characters from the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; videogame. The line continued into 2013, with Legends and Voyager Class figures being introduced too. Unlike the previous [[Legends Class (2005)|Legends Class]], now absorbed into &#039;&#039;[[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]&#039;&#039; under the name &amp;quot;Legion Class&amp;quot;, these new products consisted of two-packs of [[data disc]] [[Deployer (WFC)|Deployer]] figures designed to interact with the Voyager Class [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] mold.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Legends Class (Series 01)&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|001 [[Ravage (WFC)#Generations|Ravage]] &amp;amp; [[Rumble (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Rumble]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|002 [[Frenzy (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Frenzy]] &amp;amp; [[Ratbat (WFC)#Generations|Ratbat]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|003 [[Eject (FOC)#Generations|Eject]] &amp;amp; [[Ramhorn (FOC)#Generations|Ramhorn]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|004 [[Rewind (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Rewind]] &amp;amp; [[Sunder (FOC)#Generations|Sunder]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|[[File:GenerationsFOCRamhorn.JPG|thumb|250px|Legends Ramhorn]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Deluxe Class (Series 01)&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|001 [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys#Fall of Cybertron|Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|002 [[Jazz (WFC)#Generations|Autobot Jazz]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|003 [[Shockwave (WFC)#Generations|Shockwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|004 [[Onslaught (WFC)#Retail|Onslaught]] (PART 1 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|005 [[Swindle (FOC)#Retail|Swindle]] (PART 4 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|006 [[Vortex (FOC)#Retail|Vortex]] (PART 3 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|007 [[Brawl (WFC)#Retail|Decepticon Brawl]] (PART 5 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|008 [[Blast Off (FOC)#Retail|Blast Off]] (PART 2 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|009 [[Kickback (FOC)#Generations|Kickback]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|010 [[Starscream (WFC)/toys#Generations|Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|011 [[Sideswipe (WFC)#Generations|Sideswipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|012 [[Ultra Magnus (WFC)#Generations|Ultra Magnus]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|013 [[Fireflight (FOC)#Generations|Air Raid]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 4&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|014 [[Impactor (Prime)#Generations|Impactor]] (PART 1 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|015 [[Twintwist#Generations|Twintwist]] (PART 5 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|016 [[Topspin (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Topspin]] (PART 2 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|017 [[Roadbuster (Prime)#Generations|Roadbuster]] (PART 4 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|018 [[Whirl (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Whirl]] (PART 3 OF 5!)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|[[File:Generationstoy-Ruination.jpg|thumb|250px|Wave 4 Deluxes combine to form [[Ruination (FOC)|Ruination]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Note|The [[Combaticon (WFC)|Combaticon]] team in wave 2 and the [[Wrecker]] team in wave 4 combine to form [[Bruticus (WFC)|Bruticus]] and [[Ruination (FOC)|Ruination]] respectively. In addition to a sequential ID number, each of these figures also gets an individual number as part of its combiner team; these two number sets are &#039;&#039;completely&#039;&#039; inconsisent with each other. At the very least, the team member numbers are associated with the same mold across both sets.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Voyager Class (Series 01)&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|001 [[Soundwave (WFC)/toys#Fall of Cybertron|Soundwave]] with [[Laserbeak (WFC)#Generations|Laserbeak]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|002 [[Soundwave (WFC)/toys#GenerationsSoundblaster|Soundblaster]] with [[Buzzsaw (FOC)#Generations|Buzzsaw]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|003 [[Grimlock (WFC)#Generations|Grimlock]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|004 [[Blaster (FOC)#Generations|Autobot Blaster]] with [[Steeljaw (FOC)#Generations|Steeljaw]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|[[File:Generations-SoundwaveVoyager.jpg|thumb|250px|Voyager Soundwave with Laserbeak]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Thrilling 30&#039;&#039; (2013–2014)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|Thrilling 30}}{{anchor|T30}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{nav-T30}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:T30 Trailcutter pk US CALA EU.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Most Deluxe figures came with a comic in the US, Australia, New Zealand, and Asia (left). Canadian/Latin American (center) and European (right) releases didn&#039;t.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In mid-2013, &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; was rebranded as &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations: Thrilling 30&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; as part of Hasbro&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Thrilling 30]]&#039;&#039; anniversary campaign, which saw the line return to the &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039;/&#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039;-style updates of older characters. This refresh was notable for introducing close ties with [[IDW Publishing]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; material–many toys were based on designs from comics, and for the US market,&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;region&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Australia, New Zealand, and Hasbro&#039;s Asian markets typically get toys in whatever format is also used for the United States. The markets that traditionally get multilingual packaging are Canada, Latin America, and Europe, which meant no comic books for &#039;&#039;Thrilling 30&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Combiner Wars&#039;&#039;. See the images to the right for a comparison.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; every Deluxe figure was packaged with a comic issue. The format of Legends Class was also changed, now including a vaguely &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; Commander-sized figure with a smaller, triple-changing partner. &#039;&#039;Thrilling 30&#039;&#039; saw two new size classes introduced to the line – 2013 featured the huge Titan Class [[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]] figure, whilst 2014 debuted Leader Class with [[Jetfire (G1)/toys#Generations|Jetfire]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For 2013, toys featured packaging art by [[Clayton Crain]] and the Deluxe pack-in comics were &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: Spotlight|Spotlight]]&#039;&#039; issues. Continuing into 2014, the included issues tied into the &amp;quot;[[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|Dark Cybertron]]&amp;quot; story and [[Phil Jimenez]], who helped plan and draw that event, took over package art duties.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Europe, only the first wave of the Legends and Deluxe price points was ever officially released, exclusive to Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us. However, several UK retailers were later used as a dumping ground for &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the Voyagers, Leader Jetfire, and the last two waves of the Legends as [[parallel import]]s in US (Voyagers and Leader Jetfire) or Canadian/Latin American (Legends) packaging.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Legends Class (Series 02)&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|001 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Thrilling 30|Optimus Prime]] &amp;amp; [[Roller (G1)#Generations|Autobot Roller]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|002 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Generations|Bumblebee]] &amp;amp; [[Blaze Master#Generations|Blazemaster]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 4&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1p1|003 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Thrilling 30|Starscream]] &amp;amp; [[Waspinator (BW)/toys#Generations|Waspinator]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|004 [[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#Thrilling 30|Megatron]] &amp;amp; [[Chop Shop (G1)#Generations|Chop Shop]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 5&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|005 [[Swerve (G1)#Thrilling 30|Swerve]] &amp;amp; [[Sky High (Micromaster)#Generations|Flanker]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|006 [[Cosmos (G1)#Generations|Autobot Cosmos]] &amp;amp; [[Blast Master#Generations|Payload]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 6&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|007 [[Shrapnel (G1)#Generations|Skrapnel]] &amp;amp; [[Reflector (G1)#Generations|Reflector]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|008 [[Tailgate (G1)#Generations|Autobot Tailgate]] &amp;amp; [[Neutro#Generations|Groundbuster]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; rowspan=2|[[File:Generationstoy-T30-LegendsMegatronChopShop.jpg|thumb|250px|Legends Megatron with Chop Shop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 7&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|009 [[Acid Storm (G1)#Generations|Acid Storm]] &amp;amp; [[Venom (G1)#Generations|Venin]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|010 [[Gears (G1)#Generations|Autobot Gears]] &amp;amp; [[Eagle Eye (G1)#Generations|Autobot Eclipse]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 8&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|018 [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#Generations|Nemesis Prime]] &amp;amp; [[Spinister (G1)#Generations|Spinister]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|019 [[Cliffjumper (G1)/toys#Suppressor|Cliffjumper]] &amp;amp; [[Suppressor (Generations)#Generations|Suppressor]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Note|The individual-toy numbering of the Legends Class figures skips the numbers 11-17. The reason for this is unknown; however, the names of two more planned two-packs, &amp;quot;[[Brawn (G1)/toys|Brawn]] &amp;amp; [[Mudslinger (G1)|Mudslinger]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Gnaw (G1)|Gnaw]] &amp;amp; Gnash&amp;quot;, were leaked to the public but were cancelled.}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Deluxe Class (Series 02)&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 5&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|001 [[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#Generations|Trailcutter]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|002 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#T30Deluxe|Orion Pax]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|003 [[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#T30Deluxe|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|004 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#T30Deluxe|Bumblebee]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 6&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|005 [[Hoist (G1)/toys#T30Deluxe|Hoist]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|006 [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#T30Deluxe|Thundercracker]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 7&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|007 [[Dreadwing (G2)#Generations|Dreadwing]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-p1|008 [[Waspinator (BW)/toys#T30Deluxe|Waspinator]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|009 [[Skids (G1)#Generations|Autobot Skids]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|010 [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Goldfire|Goldfire]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 8&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|011 [[Starscream (Armada)/toys#Generations|&#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|012 [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Thrilling 30|Skywarp]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-mc|013 [[Mini-Con Assault Team#Generations|Mini-Con Assault Team]] ([[Heavytread (Generations)#Generations|Heavytread]], [[Runway (Generations)#Generations|Runway]], [[Windshear#Generations|Windshear]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|014 [[Scoop (G1)#Generations|Autobot Scoop]] (w/ [[Holepunch (G1)#Generations|Holepunch]] &amp;amp; [[Tracer (Targetmaster)#Generations|Caliburst]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; rowspan=2|[[File:Generations trailcutter(trailbreaker).jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Deluxe Trailcutter]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 9&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-vh|015 [[Tankor (BM)#Generations|Tankor]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-m1|017 [[Rattrap (BW)/toys#Generations|Rattrap]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 10&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|016 [[Crosscut (Autobot)#Generations|Crosscut]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|018 [[Jhiaxus (G2)#Generations|Jhiaxus]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|019 [[Windblade (G1)#Generations|Windblade]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|020 [[Nightbeat (G1)#Generations|Nightbeat]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 11&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|021 [[Arcee (G1)/toys#Generations|Arcee]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|022 [[Chromia (G1)#Generations|Chromia]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Voyager Class (Series 02)&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|001 [[Springer (G1)/toys#Thrilling 30|Autobot Springer]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|002 [[Blitzwing (G1)/toys#Generations|Blitzwing]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 4&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|003 [[Sandstorm (G1)#Thrilling 30|Sandstorm]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 5&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|004 [[Doubledealer#Generations|Decepticon Doubledealer]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-m1|005 [[Rhinox (BW)/toys#Generations|Rhinox]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 6&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|006 [[Whirl (G1)#Generations|Autobot Whirl]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; rowspan=2|[[File:Generationstoy-VoyagerSpringer.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Voyager Springer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 7&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-p1|007 [[Sky-Byte (RID)#Generations|Sky-Byte]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|008 [[Roadbuster (G1)#Generations|Roadbuster]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 8&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|009 [[Brainstorm (G1)#Generations|Brainstorm]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Larger classes&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Leader Class&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|001 [[Jetfire (G1)/toys#Generations|Jetfire]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Titan Class&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Metroplex (G1)#Generations|Metroplex]] (w/ [[Scamper#Generations|Scamper]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|[[File:Gen-toy Jetfire Leader.jpg|thumb|250px|Leader Class Jetfire]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Exclusives===&lt;br /&gt;
;Convention exclusives&lt;br /&gt;
While these toys premiered at conventions, many also ended up available through other venues, like the [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] online store, and even occasionally at retail in certain chains. See individual entries for more information.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2012&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Bruticus (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Bruticus]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-d1|[[Swindle (FOC)#Generations|Swindle]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-d1|[[Vortex (FOC)#Generations|Vortex]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-d1|[[Brawl (WFC)#Generations|Decepticon Brawl]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-d1|[[Onslaught (WFC)#Generations|Onslaught]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-d1|[[Blast Off (FOC)#Generations|Blast Off]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;San Diego Comic-Con 2013&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Metroplex (G1)#SDCC2013|Metroplex]] with minifigures:}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-a1|[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#SDCC2013|Bumblebee]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-a1|[[Hoist (G1)/toys#Thrilling 30|Hoist]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#SDCC2013|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#SDCC2013|Orion Pax]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-d1|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#Thrilling 30|Thundercracker]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-a1|[[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#SDCC2013|Trailcutter]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Animation-Comic-Game Hong Kong 2013&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Metroplex (G1)#ACGHK2013|Metroplex]] with minifigures:}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-a1|[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#ACGHK2013|Bumblebee]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-a1|[[Hoist (G1)/toys#ACGHK2013|Hoist]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#ACGHK2013|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#ACGHK2013|Orion Pax]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-d1|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#ACGHK2013|Thundercracker]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:{{Bp-a1|[[Trailbreaker (G1)/toys#ACGHK2013|Trailcutter]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|[[File:Generationstoy-T30-Metroplex-HKACGCON.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Animation-Comic-Game Hong Kong Metroplex]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
;Asian market exclusive sets&lt;br /&gt;
The Ultimate Gift Set was also made available as a &amp;quot;shared exclusive&amp;quot; between various online retailers in the United States. [[Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us]] and [[Walmart]] carried it online as well, and some Walmart stores got them on shelves for Christmas.&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Giftset#Ultimate Gift Set|Ultimate Gift Set]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Generations|Combat Hero Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Jazz (G1)/toys#Generations|Autobot Jazz]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#UltimateGiftSet|Thundercracker]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Motormaster (G1)#UltimateGiftSet|Motorbreath]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Specialist: Decepticons&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Astrotrain (G1)/toys#Generations|Astrotrain]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Galvatron (G1)/toys#Generations|Galvatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Octane#Generations|Octane]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Specialist: Autobots&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Hound (G1)/toys#Generations|Hound]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Ironhide (G1)/toys#Generations|Ironhide]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Mirage (G1)/toys#Generations|Mirage]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Autobots Warriors&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Kup (G1)/toys#AutobotWarriors|Kup]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Perceptor (G1)/toys#Generations|Perceptor]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Ratchet (G1)/toys#Generations|Ratchet]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|[[File:Generationstoy-UltimateGiftSet-CombatHeroOptimusPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Combat Hero Optimus Prime]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Fun Publications&lt;br /&gt;
In 2015, Fun Publications released four [[BotCon 2014]] toys in the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;-branded &amp;quot;BotCon Legacy Collection&amp;quot; multi-pack, with the [[Pack-in material|pack-in comic]] &amp;quot;[[Legacy (issue)|Legacy]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;BotCon Legacy Collection&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Apelinq (BM)#Generations|Ape-Linq]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Flamewar (G1)#Generations|Flamewar]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Flareup (G1)#Generations|Flareup]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-p1|[[Shokaract#Generations|Shokaract]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:BotCon2014-Shokaract.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|Shockaract]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Movie lines (2014–)==&lt;br /&gt;
In [[2014]], Hasbro began labeling certain [[live-action film series]] lines with the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; banner.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; (2014)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Nav-aoe}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:HoundPackaging.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Voyager Class Autobot Hound]]&lt;br /&gt;
After the many years of rather complex figures in the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|movie]] [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|toylines]] and realizing that the toys were becoming too complicated for the audiences they were aimed at, Hasbro decided to split the toyline that accompanied the forth installment in the [[live-action film series]] franchise, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|Transformers: Age of Extinction]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, into two different age-appropriate lines. The first was the &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; line which focused on more child-friendly designs, with gimmicks centred around pulling a lever or flicking a switch; activating an automated transformation in one or two simple steps.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The other half was labelled &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;, which the figures were made to similar design standards of the preceding movie toylines, and were designed for a slightly older demographic, much like the previous lines under the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; banner above. Releasing around the same time as [[2015]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; cartoon, the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; lineup was simplified in the way the &amp;quot;Warrior Class&amp;quot; figures were made, using bright colors and minimal transformation steps, in keeping with a simplistic approach for any age to enjoy.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Following on from the approach taken with the &#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; toyline, &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: The Last Knight (toyline)|Transformers: The Last Knight]]&#039;&#039; was also split into two separate age-appropriate lines. The more simplified of the two lines became the &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Turbo Changers&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; and consisted of many of the same styled toys as the &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039; line above. The second, &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: The Last Knight (toyline)#Premier Edition|Premier Edition]]&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; line, while not labelled under the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; banner, was still aimed at an older demographic and followed the same principles that the &#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; line had set before it, even including many redecoes of molds sold in the previous line.&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Movie Edition&#039;&#039; (2018–2019)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Generations-Movie-Edition-logo.jpg|center|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TTC-toy Movie-Edition-Dropkick-Chopper-Mode.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Series 4 Chopper Mode Dropkick]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;{{main|Tiny Turbo Changers#Movie Edition}}&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Originally begun as part of the toyline for &#039;&#039;The Last Knight&#039;&#039; in 2017, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Tiny Turbo Changers]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a line of [[super deformed]], [[blindpacking|blind-bagged]] vinyl figures featuring characters from throughout the entire [[live-action film series]]. The line continued into 2018 under the more general &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Movie Edition&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; label and co-branded with &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; starting with Series 3. The subline ran for two more series into 2019.&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Studio Series&#039;&#039; (2018–)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{nav-studio}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Studio-Series-Voyager-Long-Haul-Box.jpg|thumb|42 &#039;&#039;Revenge of the Fallen&#039;&#039; Voyager Class Long Haul]]&lt;br /&gt;
First revealed at [[Toy Fair]] [[Toy Fair 2018|2018]], &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations: Studio Series&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, a new subline underneath the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; banner that acts as a celebration of over ten years of live-action movies, with characters from every movie represented, variants included. It also coincided with &#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039;, the sixth film in the [[live-action film series]]. All figures come with a cardboard backdrop depicting a notable scene from their respective movie. Backdrops from separate figures representing the same scene are designed to be displayed side by side. With rough robot mode [[scale]] as a line-wide goal, each figure is sized in relation to other toys, even in the same [[size class]]. In 2021&#039;s &#039;&#039;Studio Series&#039;&#039; started to introduce &amp;quot;Generation 1&amp;quot; characters to the line; featuring figures based on characters from &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;, in celebration of the film&#039;s 35th anniversary. These figures feature a different set of ID numbers to the &amp;quot;standard&amp;quot; line, with the figures having an &amp;quot;86&amp;quot; in front of their base number starting at the number &amp;quot;01&amp;quot;, to better differentiate them from the live-action film characters that the line was originally intended for.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Exclusives===&lt;br /&gt;
In 2018, Hasbro released a single exclusive figure for Chinese company JingDong, which was only available on their online shop. Despite being released at the time of &#039;&#039;Studio Series&#039;&#039;, the toy features a generic &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; logo and is packaged in a box with branding similar to &#039;&#039;Cyber Series&#039;&#039; figures which were also initially exclusive to China. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[JD Red Knight]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{--}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==&#039;&#039;Prime Wars Trilogy&#039;&#039; (2015–2018)==&lt;br /&gt;
{{nav-pwt}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; was rebooted in 2015, acting more as branding than a specific toyline, starting with Hasbro&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Prime Wars Trilogy&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. As the name implies, it consists of three sublines, each with its own theme, [[gimmick]] and [[play pattern]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Combiner Wars&#039;&#039; (2015–2016)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|Combiner Wars}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{nav-CombinerWars}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CW Swindle pk US CALA EU.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Like most Deluxe Class figures, Swindle was available with a comic book in the U.S., Australia, New Zealand, and Asia (left), and with a character card in Canada and Latin America (center) as well as Europe (right).]]&lt;br /&gt;
For 2015, the line was given another [[subline imprint]] titled &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations: Combiner Wars&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, which saw Deluxe, Voyager, and some Legends figures able to form [[combiner]] robots. The format for Legends Class was changed once again, dropping the small partner figures of the &#039;&#039;Thrilling 30&#039;&#039; line.&lt;br /&gt;
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The tradition of including IDW comic books with U.S.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;region&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Deluxes continued, whilst Legends, Voyagers, Leaders, and non-U.S.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;region&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; Deluxes gained collector cards featuring art taken either from the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]&#039;&#039; mobile game, or simply the toy&#039;s [[package art]] (which doubles as the comic book cover for the U.S.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;region&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; version). However, due to production schedule problems,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bwtf.com/events/toyfair2015/interview-part1 Interview with Jerry Jivoin at BWTF.com]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Deluxe wave 1&#039;s initial U.S.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;region&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; release featured the collector cards. Along with the concurrently released &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]&#039;&#039; line, &#039;&#039;Combiner Wars&#039;&#039; also heralded the return of [[multilingual packaging]] to the United States&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;region&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; market, now in English, French, Spanish, and Portuguese. The sole exception to this was the Deluxe figures packaged with comic books, which retained English-only packaging.&lt;br /&gt;
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Meanwhile, &#039;&#039;Combiner Wars&#039;&#039; marked the end of the [[Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us]] exclusivity for &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; figures that had been in effect in several European markets since the launch of the original line in 2010 (which had usually resulted in only one wave per assortment ever being released in Europe). Not only did availability and distribution improve tremendously across the board—the &#039;&#039;Combiner Wars&#039;&#039; figures were even released in European markets where &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; figures had previously never been available at all! At the same time, European packaging reduced the number of languages from thirteen to a mere four (English, French, German, and Spanish), resulting in a less cluttered packaging design.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the general retail assortments had run their course, the line was extended for several months via [[giftset]]s of complete teams featuring redecoes and retools, referred to as &amp;quot;Collection Packs&amp;quot; in official promotional materials. Those sets were typically &amp;quot;shared exclusives&amp;quot; between online retailers and the online storefronts of &amp;quot;big box&amp;quot; retailers, though they were also available at brick and mortar retail in several non-U.S. markets.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Titans Return&#039;&#039; (2016–2017)===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TR Chromedome pk USCALA EU.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|&#039;&#039;Titans Return&#039;&#039; Deluxe figures came with a character card in all markets. &amp;quot;US/worldwide&amp;quot; packaging on left, European packaging on right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Mid-2016 introduced a new subline imprint, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations: Titans Return&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (initially touted under the early working name &#039;&#039;Titan Wars&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;titanwars&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Which is &#039;&#039;obviously&#039;&#039; used by many European retailers in official advertising, with annoying persistence.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), with its own new line-wide gimmick: all Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader Class figures include a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]]-style [[Titan Master]] partner, all of which are completely interchangeable. To compensate for the size differences, Leader class figures feature large helmets that cover the Titan Masters, while Voyager class figures have spring-loaded pop-out adornments to &amp;quot;bulk up&amp;quot; their heads. Each Deluxe and Voyager figure&#039;s hand-held weapons can transform and combine to form a &amp;quot;turret&amp;quot; that can be manned by any Titan Master, and which can attach to the base modes of the Leader Class figures.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, a new Titan Master assortment was introduced, each including a single Titan Master, plus a small vehicle or beast. These can transform into a vehicle/beast for the Titan Master to ride, a second vehicle/beast formed by &#039;&#039;combining&#039;&#039; with the Titan Master, and a [[5 mm post|5mm]] weapon for a larger figure to wield. Legends Class figures started out as predominantly [[Mini-Cassette]] characters, which can transform into both a vehicle and a blocky PDA that can fit inside Leader Class figures such as [[Blaster (G1)/toys#TitansReturn|Blaster]]. Starting with Wave 3, this changed into focusing on [[Mini Vehicle]]s which can often carry Titan Master passengers.&lt;br /&gt;
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Though never officially addressed by Hasbro, Deluxes no longer included comic books in any market, thus eliminating the need for English-only packaging entirely, leaving only two types of multilingual packaging, one for Europe and the other for all non-European markets. However, the character cards included with all figures (except for Titan Masters) now featured [[Tech Spec]] stats on their back.&lt;br /&gt;
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Voting for the second Titan Class figure was conducted via Facebook, with fans choosing between a remake of [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Trypticon (G1)#Generations|Trypticon]], or [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.facebook.com/transformers/photos/a.153259298077606.36631.146805978722938/926169094119952/?type=3&amp;amp;permPage=1 November 24 2016 photo]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Trypticon won.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.facebook.com/transformers/photos/a.153259298077606.36631.146805978722938/931380200265508/?type=3 &amp;quot;There truly is nothing that can stand in the way of Trypticon. With your votes, he smashed his way to becoming the next Generations Titans Return Titan Class toy. Mark your calendars, and look for him to hit shelves late 2017.&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Power of the Primes&#039;&#039; (2018)===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:POTP Jazz pk USCALA EU.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|&#039;&#039;Power of the Primes&#039;&#039; Deluxe figures still came with a character card in all markets, each of them containing one of twelve possible combinations between the character and a Prime Master. &amp;quot;US/worldwide&amp;quot; packaging on left, European packaging on right.]]&lt;br /&gt;
First revealed in mid-[[2017]] at [[San Diego Comic-Con]], &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations: Power of the Primes&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, in keeping with the previous two toylines, features a line-wide [[gimmick]]: &amp;quot;[[Prime Master]]s&amp;quot;, small [[Titan Master]]-type figures that represent the sparks of the [[Thirteen|Primes]]. Unlike Titan Masters, Prime Masters are available only in their own pricepoint, where they are packaged with [[Pretender]]-style [[Prime Master|Decoy Armor]], but can interact in some way with all larger assortments.&lt;br /&gt;
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Legends Class figures retain the ability to seat a small figure in alt-mode, whilst the Deluxe and Voyager Class pricepoints see the return of &#039;&#039;[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]&#039;&#039;-style [[Combiner]]s. The combination joints remain unchanged, whilst the hand/foot system is tweaked: all Deluxes now include a hand, and all Voyagers a pair of feet. These accessories also facilitate the Prime Master integration for those size classes: Deluxes can use their hand as chest armor, into which a Prime Master spark mode can slot, and Voyagers can use their feet as forearm bucklers, which similarly fit a Prime Master. All Voyager Class figures also include an [[Enigma of Combination]], shaped like a Prime Master spark mode, that can fit onto their combined mode chest.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, Leader Class figures feature an &amp;quot;Evolution&amp;quot; gimmick, wherein each toy includes a Deluxe-sized character who can &amp;quot;evolve&amp;quot; into a Prime by combining with additional armor. Each Leader includes a uniquely-colored [[Matrix of Leadership]], the central crystal of which can be removed and replaced with a Prime Master.&lt;br /&gt;
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Similar to &#039;&#039;Combiner Wars&#039;&#039; (except for US-released Deluxe Class figures) and &#039;&#039;Titans Return&#039;&#039;, all figures from Legends Class upwards continued to include character cards, except this time there were twelve different [[variant]]s of every character&#039;s card, each containing a [[Prime Master/Combinations|combination]] with one of the twelve Prime Masters.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ahead of the line&#039;s release, a fan vote took place to determine a character who would become a new Prime in both the toyline and accompanying stories, with [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] claiming victory, and a place in the Leader Class assortment.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.facebook.com/transformers/photos/pb.146805978722938.-2207520000.1487463781./1362620857141438/?type=3&amp;amp;theater Optimus Primal&#039;s victory]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==&#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039; (2019–)==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:WFC-Netflix-Nemesis-Prime.jpg|thumb|Nemesis Prime / Fangtron / Giza Spoiler Pack]]&lt;br /&gt;
Beginning in 2019 (though released in late [[2018]] for the holiday season), the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (aka &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations War for Cybertron&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;) follows the pattern of the &#039;&#039;Prime Wars Trilogy&#039;&#039;, having three sub-imprints over a multi-year release schedule. The new branding is unrelated to the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|2010 &#039;&#039;Transformers: War for Cybertron&#039;&#039;]] video game from [[High Moon Studios]], though both similarly cover the early pre-Earth era of the [[Great War (G1)|Autobot-Decepticon war]]. In February 2018, Hasbro launched a [[Fan polls|fan vote]] for a thematic rivalry to be seen as Deluxe Class figures. The choices were [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]] VS [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], [[Needlenose (G1)|Needlenose]] VS [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], and [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] VS [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]. Impactor and Mirage won, but Spinister was produced regardless, with Wheeljack being made in the next chapter of the trilogy, and Tracks in the final.&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039; subline was unveiled by Hasbro at [[Toy Fair 2020]], and launched in conjunction with the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron Trilogy (cartoon)|&#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039; cartoon]] on [[Netflix]]. With the cartoon featuring [[character model]]s based directly on Hasbro&#039;s toy molds, the toyline, in turn, features animation-accurate weathering and extensive deco, though they are often far more battle-damaged than the on-screen model.&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039; label was also used for toy releases that did not fall into a certain chapter, namely the 2020 &#039;&#039;Selects&#039;&#039; product, the crowd-funded [[Unicron/toys#War for Cybertron Trilogy|Unicron]] and the &#039;&#039;[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039; releases.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Siege&#039;&#039; (2019–2020)===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:WFC-Siege-Battle-Master-Blowpipe-Box.jpg|thumb|100px|WFC-S3 Battle Master Blowpipe]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: Siege&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; brought toy engineering to the extreme with relative scale, detail, extra posability, and &#039;&#039;extreme&#039;&#039; show-accuracy, but with Cybertronian alternate modes. Many of the line&#039;s entries feature battle damage paint and combinable weapons, with some Deluxe Class &amp;quot;Weaponizer&amp;quot; figures capable of splitting into additional armament. The figures are littered with [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]] [[5 mm post|5 mm ports]] and 3&amp;amp;nbsp;mm posts, allowing for unlimited craziness.&lt;br /&gt;
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Falling on the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; franchise&#039;s 35h anniversary, &#039;&#039;Siege&#039;&#039; featured the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;35th Anniversary&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; subline imprint.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Earthrise&#039;&#039; (2020)===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TF-WFC-E-Cybertron-Villains-Decepticon-Clones-set.jpg|thumb|WFC-E30 &#039;&#039;Cybertronian Villians&#039;&#039; Decepticon Pounce / Wingspan]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: Earthrise&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; continues the C.O.M.B.A.T. System and the new [[A.I.R. Lock System]], which focuses more on fortification construction than weaponry. As the name implies, many of the 80&#039;s &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; characters are given Earth vehicle modes. A.I.R. Lock System Deluxe Modulators, along with the [[Quintesson]] and [[Mercenary]] factions, were introduced.&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Earthrise&#039;&#039; featured the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Cybertronian Villians&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (from 2018&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]&#039;&#039;) and &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Galactic Odyssey Collection&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; subline imprints. &lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Kingdom&#039;&#039; (2021–2022)===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:WFC-Kingdom-Leader-Class-Megatron-Box.jpg|thumb|WFC-K10 Leader Class Megatron (Beast)]]&lt;br /&gt;
The third and final installment, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations War for Cybertron: Kingdom&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; falls on the 25th anniversary of &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; and the 35th anniversary of &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: The Movie]]&#039;&#039;, seeing heavy influence from both. The chapter sees the addition of the [[Maximal]]s and [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]s, as well as the Core Class replacing the Battle Masters and Micromasters. Silently continuing the C.O.M.B.A.T. System and A.I.R. Lock System, the primary gimmick is the [[F.O.S.S.I.L. Technology]], and the accompany Deluxe Fossilizers. Both classic &#039;90s &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; and &#039;80s &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039; characters are redone with cartoon-accurate engineering and in relative scale amongst their respective series. The toyline also surprisingly stems to &#039;&#039;[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]], [[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars II]]&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]&#039;&#039; characters in its exclusives. &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Kingdom&#039;&#039; featured the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Battle Across Time Collection&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Golden Disk Collection&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; subline imprints.&lt;br /&gt;
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==&#039;&#039;Legacy&#039;&#039; (2022–)==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TFLegacyBulkheadPackagingFront.jpg|thumb|&#039;&#039;Legacy&#039;&#039; Prime Universe Bulkhead]]&lt;br /&gt;
Beginning after the conclusion of the &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039; toyline, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations: Legacy&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (aka &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Legacy&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;) features characters from across the wealth of different &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; [[continuity|continuities]], making it a celebration of the entire &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; series, as opposed to the predominantly-&amp;quot;[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)#Overview|Generation 1]]&amp;quot; oriented character selection of the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; line for the past 6 years. The central [[play pattern]] for this line is the reintroduction of the [[Energon weapon#Legacy|Energon weaponry]] from 2004&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]&#039;&#039; toyline; translucent plastic accessories which can be combined together to form bigger, more elaborate weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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The &#039;&#039;Legacy&#039;&#039; toyline is also set to reintroduce [[combiner]] teams beginning with the [[Stunticon (G1)#Legacy|Stunticon]]s, a first since the ending of the &#039;&#039;[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]&#039;&#039; line.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Miscellaneous lines==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Cyber Series&#039;&#039; (2015–2018)===&lt;br /&gt;
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Three years after a large batch of redecoes and retools had been created for Hasbro&#039;s Asian markets (with North American [[Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us]] branches later picking them up as exclusives), Hasbro&#039;s Global Development Organization (&amp;quot;GDO&amp;quot;) division was given a budget to design entirely new toys. Taking a cue from the [[tail-ender|tail-end]] &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)#BH|Beast Hunters]]&#039;&#039; Deluxe and Voyager Class figures, most of these figures were based on smaller figures from the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2010 toyline)#RTS|Reveal the Shield]]&#039;&#039; [[Legends Class (2005)|Legends Class]], &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Prime (toyline)|Transformers: Prime]]&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;[[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]&#039;&#039; Legion Class, &#039;&#039;Thrilling 30&#039;&#039; Legends Class, and [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)|2015 &#039;&#039;Robots in Disguise&#039;&#039;]] Legion Class ranges, with the designs upsized to roughly Voyager (&amp;quot;Battalion&amp;quot;) and Leader (&amp;quot;Commander&amp;quot;) height, keeping the transformation engineering mostly unchanged. These figures were released in Hasbro&#039;s Asian and Latin American markets in 2015, while a second wave was released two years later in 2017 to the original markets and exclusively to [[Walgreens]] in North America, followed by a third wave of the Battalion assortment in 2018.  The second wave Commander Optimus Prime and Commander Bumblebee figures were also continuously released from 2018 throughout 2020 in North American markets via [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]]. Battalion Grimlock, Megatron, and original deco Commander Optimus Prime were never released to North America.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most Cyber Battalion toys were reissued in 2021, with Wave 2 and 3 exclusive to Hasbro Pulse, and Wave 1 (except Grimlock) repackaged in two &amp;quot;Heroes &amp;amp; Villians&amp;quot; 2-packs exclusive to Amazon in North America.&lt;br /&gt;
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;&#039;&#039;Transformers Cyber Battalion Series&#039;&#039; (2015–2021)&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Cyber Series|Bumblebee]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Grimlock (G1)/toys#Cyber Series|Grimlock]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#Cyber Series|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Cyber Series|Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Starscream (G1)/toys#Cyber Series|Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Prowl (G1)/toys#Cyber Series|Prowl]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Jetfire (G1)/toys#Cyber Series|Jetfire]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Shockwave (G1)/toys#Cyber Series|Decepticon Shockwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Cyber Series|Sideswipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Heroes &amp;amp; Villains (Amazon)&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1d1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#HeroesAndVillains|Optimus Prime]] / [[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys#HeroesAndVillains|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1d1|[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#HeroesAndVillains|Bumblebee]] / [[Starscream (G1)/toys#HeroesAndVillains|Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:TF-Cyber-Battalion-Jetfire.jpg|thumb|250px|Cyber Battalion Jetfire]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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;&#039;&#039;Transformers Cyber Commander Series&#039;&#039; (2015–2017)&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#CyberCommander|Bumblebee]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#CyberCommander|Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#CyberCommanderRedeco|Optimus Prime]] (redeco)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:Cyber-Commander-Optimus-Prime-redeco.jpg|thumb|250px|Cyber Commander Optimus Prime (Wave 2)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Platinum Edition&#039;&#039; (2015–2017)===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:PlatinumRiseOfRodimusPrime.jpeg|thumb|200px|Rise of Rodimus Prime]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Transformers: Platinum Edition}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Platinum Edition&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a collector-oriented toyline that began in [[2013]]. It is composed entirely of [[retool]]s and [[redeco]]es of existing molds, which are presented in premium packaging. In 2015, it got absorbed into the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; toyline and in the process dropped its own unique packaging designs as well as its own logo in favor of the uniform &#039;&#039;Prime Wars Trilogy&#039;&#039; packaging design, reducing the title &amp;quot;Platinum Edition&amp;quot; to a small line in neutral text above the toys&#039; names.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Alt-Modes&#039;&#039; (2016–2017)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Alt-Modes Starscream.jpg|thumb|150px|Starscream]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Alt-Modes&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a line-up of [[blindpacking|blind-boxed]] figures released under the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; line that change from [[super deformed]] robots, with large {{w|Plume (feather)|plume}}-like Autobot or Decepticon [[insignia|faction symbols]] you can flip up on top of their heads, into similarly &amp;quot;chibi&amp;quot; alternate modes with their robot heads still on top. Characters in the line are firmly rooted in &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Masterpiece&#039;&#039; (2015–2017)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Masterpiece-toyline-logo.png|300px|center]]{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF-Masterpiece-SG-Optimus-Prime.jpg|thumb|250px|Shattered Glass Optimus Prime]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;{{main|The Transformers: Masterpiece#Hasbro versions}}&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
In 2015, Hasbro&#039;s &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;The Transformers: Masterpiece&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; line got partially absorbed into the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; toyline as well. These are very expensive and detailed molds aimed at adult collectors, similar to the &amp;quot;CHUG&amp;quot; standard set by the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; line. The line had been running since 2004, but was rebooted in 2011 to what it is today. These are released under Hasbro&#039;s packaging.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, a redeco of &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers: Masterpiece]]&#039;&#039; MP-10 Convoy was redecoed in &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]&#039;&#039; colors, and was also made for Hasbro&#039;s Asian markets. That latter figure is essentially a &#039;&#039;Platinum Edition&#039;&#039; figure in all but its name, using the exact same packaging design and layout of then-concurrent &#039;&#039;Platinum Edition&#039;&#039; packaging except the actual &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Platinum Edition&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; title was replaced by &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Shattered Glass&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Generations Selects&#039;&#039; (2019–)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|Selects}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TF-Generations-Selects-Decepticon-Exhaust-Box.jpg|thumb|250px|&#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy Selects&#039;&#039; Exhaust]]&lt;br /&gt;
Announced in late 2018, &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Generations Selects&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a line of exclusives sold entirely online in the US, and through various brick and mortar retailers in other countries, intersecting multiple thematic sublines of &#039;&#039;Generations.&#039;&#039; The line consists of &amp;quot;special edition&amp;quot; redecoes and retools of &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; figures, packaged in brown cardboard mailer boxes with no mark up. Initially comprising toys initiated by Hasbro, the line-up also included figures initiated by TakaraTomy from 2019 to 2020.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hasbro-initiated figures are packaged in robot mode, while Takara-initiated figures are packaged in vehicle mode, much like most of their recent products.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most TakaraTomy material unfortunately includes the morphological error in English of &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Generation&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; Selects&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Collaborative&#039;&#039; (2019–)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Collaborative.jpg|200px|center]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Collaborative-Ghostbusters-Ectotron-box.jpg|thumb|&#039;&#039;Ghostbusters x Transformers&#039;&#039; Ectotron]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;{{main|Transformers Collaborative}}&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Collaborative&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is an online retailer exclusive subline that began in [[2019]], intended to incorporate properties originating outside of the &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; brand, not unlike the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Crossovers|Crossovers]]&#039;&#039; franchise (2008–2011) before it. &#039;&#039;Unlike&#039;&#039; its predecessor, &#039;&#039;Collaborative&#039;&#039; sometimes includes comprehensive fiction associated with the crossover event, likely to flesh out the wholly new characters created.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;R.E.D. [Robot Enhanced Design]&#039;&#039; (2020–)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Robot Enhanced Design Logo.jpg|200px|center]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF-R.E.D.-Soundwave.jpg|thumb|&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; Soundwave]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Transformers R.E.D.}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers R.E.D. [Robot Enhanced Design]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;, is a line of six-inch scale non-transforming action figures of Transformers characters from across different [[franchises]] and [[continuity|continuities]]. It is intended to be a counterpart to Hasbro&#039;s other 6-inch action figure lines, including &#039;&#039;[[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] Legends&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]: Black Series&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;Power Rangers: Lightning Collection&#039;&#039;. Aesthetically, the line focuses on [[show-accuracy]] in its sculpts. Figures in the line also include extra hands and accessories for display options.&lt;br /&gt;
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The toyline is a [[Walmart]] exclusive in the U.S. and Canada.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Retro Headmasters&#039;&#039; (2020)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|Retro Headmasters}}&lt;br /&gt;
First unveiled at the [[October 16]]th [[Hasbro Pulse#Fan First Friday|Fan First Friday]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkJOmYkcMtY October 16th Fan First Friday]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Retro Headmasters&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a small line consisting of redecoes  of several of the &#039;&#039;Titans Return&#039;&#039; figures, now featuring G1 toy-accurate [[Paint operation|paint applications]] and the originally Japan-exclusive &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; Headmaster faces.  The toys are packaged in nostalgic G1-style packaging (much like the &#039;&#039;Collaborative&#039;&#039; figures or &#039;&#039;[[Vintage (Walmart toyline)|Vintage G1]]&#039;&#039;), but with the original G1 [[package art]] modified to more closely resemble the &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; toy heads.  &lt;br /&gt;
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This series is a Walmart exclusive in the U.S. and Canada, and was also sold exclusively at The Warehouse and Toyworld in New Zealand. &lt;br /&gt;
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|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Chromedome (G1)#Retro Headmasters|Chromedome]] (w/ [[Stylor#Retro Headmasters|Stylor]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Brainstorm (G1)#Retro Headmasters|Brainstorm]] (w/ [[Arcana#Retro Headmasters|Arcana]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Hardhead (G1)#Retro Headmasters|Hardhead]] (w/ [[Duros#Retro Headmasters|Duros]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Mindwipe (G1)#Retro Headmasters|Mindwipe]] (w/ [[Vorath#Retro Headmasters|Vorath]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|[[Highbrow (G1)#Retro Headmasters|Highbrow]] (w/ [[Gort#Retro Headmasters|Gort]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Skullcruncher (G1)#Retro Headmasters|Skullcruncher]] (w/ [[Grax#Retro Headmasters|Grax]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Weirdwolf (G1)#Retro Headmasters|Weirdwolf]] (w/ [[Monzo#Retro Headmasters|Monzo]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
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|[[File:TF-Generations-Retro-Headmasters-Brainstorm.jpg|thumb|250px|Brainstorm (w/ Arcana)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Shattered Glass Collection&#039;&#039; (2021–)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{anchor|Shattered Glass Collection}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{nav-SG|logo=Transformers Shattered Glass Collection Logo.png|size=400px}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF-Shattered-Glass-Collection-Blurr.jpg|thumb|250px|Deluxe Class Blurr]]&lt;br /&gt;
Following the unprecedented release of the [[Optimus Prime (SG)#War for Cybertron Trilogy|Shattered Glass Optimus Prime]] and [[Ratchet (SG)#War for Cybertron Trilogy|Shattered Glass Ratchet]] two-pack in Hasbro&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Generations Selects (toyline)#Hasbro|Generations Selects]]&#039;&#039; 2020 toyline, the [[April 9]]th [[Hasbro Pulse Fan Fest 2021]] unveiled the &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations: Shattered Glass Collection&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; subline, containing more characters from the long-dormant &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]&#039;&#039; continuity. After the online convention, the other four toys (which were given Sideswipe silhouettes) were slowly revealed on Transformers Tuesdays from April to July 2021.&lt;br /&gt;
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Much like &#039;&#039;Generations Selects&#039;&#039;, the &#039;&#039;Shattered Glass Collection&#039;&#039; is composed of &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; redecoes and retools. Costing more than the MSRP of other Deluxe and Voyager Class toys, each figure is accompanied by an issue, with an exclusive UV cover, of [[IDW Publishing]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (IDW)|Shattered Glass]]&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Shards&amp;quot; mini-series. The toys are packaged in uniquely shaped boxes with character art and brief [[bio]]s. The boxes only say &amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot;, with &amp;quot;Shattered Glass Collection&amp;quot; coming from listings and product descriptions. The toyline is exclusive to [[Hasbro Pulse]] in the United States and United Kingdom.&lt;br /&gt;
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|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Assortment 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-sa|[[Blurr (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Blurr]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{bp-sd|[[Megatron (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{bp-sd|[[Starscream (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-sa|[[Goldbug (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Autobot Goldbug]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-sa|[[Jetfire (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Jetfire]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Assortment 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-sa|[[Ultra Magnus (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Ultra Magnus]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-sa|[[Blaster (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Blaster]] &amp;amp; [[Rewind (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Rewind]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-sd|[[Wheeljack (SG)#Shattered Glass Collection|Decepticon Slicer]] with [[Roritchi|Exo-Suit]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Ultra Magnus, Blaster &amp;amp; Rewind, Decepticon Slicer}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Premium Finish&#039;&#039; (2021–)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Premium-Finish-toyline-logo.png|center|100px]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF-Premium-Finish-PFSS-01-Bumblebee.jpg|thumb|250px|PF SS-01 Bumblebee]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{main|Transformers Premium Finish}}&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Premium Finish&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; (トランスフォーマー プレミアムフィニッシュ &#039;&#039;Toransufōmā Puremiamu Finisshu&#039;&#039;) is a TakaraTomy toyline that began in [[2021]]. The first Japan-exclusive line since &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; ended in [[2019]], &#039;&#039;Premium Finish&#039;&#039; seeks to reproduce exact decos based on various media, such as the &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039; cartoon or the &#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039; film. The line is split into &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; (specifically from the &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039;), ID&#039;d as &amp;quot;PF WFC-&amp;quot; and &#039;&#039;Studio Series&#039;&#039;, ID&#039;d as &amp;quot;PF SS-&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Much like TakaraTomy &#039;&#039;Masterpiece&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Generations Selects&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers Golden Lagoon|Golden Lagoon]]&#039;&#039; toys, &#039;&#039;Premium Finish&#039;&#039; toys were imported and re-released by Hasbro for online markets, namely Hasbro Pulse.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Since the toys released during the first phase of the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; toy line were all Deluxe-sized, the difficulty level bar on the front side of the packaging (which indicates how hard it is to convert a toy from mode to mode) denoted each individual toy&#039;s challenge level (Cybertronian Bumblebee, for example, is a Level 4, while Thrust is a Level 2).&lt;br /&gt;
*With the launch of the &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; line in 2010, the plastic-coated wire twist-ties that had been used to secure a toy in its packaging in past toylines, were replaced with rattan tie-downs. The paper-based tie-downs were also used in the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;]] toy line and subsequent toy lines, until they themselves were replaced by tag pins near the middle of 2014.  The tyranny of twist-ties has mercifully never sullied these toys.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers Generations&#039;&#039;&#039; (トランスフォーマー ジェネレーションズ &#039;&#039;Toransufōmā Jenerēshonzu&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Mandarin&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Biànxíng Jīngāng Shìdài Xìliè&#039;&#039;&#039; (Taiwan, 變形金剛世代系列, &amp;quot;Transformers Generation Series&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Generations}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Franchises]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generation 1 franchises]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generations toylines| ]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1599016</id>
		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
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		<updated>2022-03-17T21:18:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this Heatwave:&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F]&lt;br /&gt;
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for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s due to the fact that it uses the [[Evergreen]] art primarily used for G1 media.—[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 17:45, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I get that, but nevertheless, you have Rescue Bots redecos and RB-style new molds, under a label &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; which has already been used for Rescue Bots toys, and even the product description...&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Imagine helping the Autobots save the day! These toys are ready to take to the streets and charge to the rescue! Kids ages 3 and up can pretend there is a dangerous situation unfolding and convert the brave 4.5-inch action figure from a robot to a vehicle they can imagine racing to the scene for a courageous rescue.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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...is straight-up Rescue Bots stuff. So, like I said, I am dubious about grouping this into G1 regards of said art.--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 20:32, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just reads like generic toddler toy writeup. We have things like Buzzworthy Bumblebee and Generations that don&#039;t indicate &amp;quot;continuity families&amp;quot;, so reuse of labeling for young kid toys isn&#039;t really that convincing to me. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:27, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Okay, but since CHT is somewhat like Buzzworthy about disregarding continuity families, couldn&#039;t we still consider at least Prime and Bumblebee to be their Aligned selves? They&#039;re literally the same toys from Rescue Bots being rereleased again after multiple other rereleases, just like the Heatwave toy mentioned above. It&#039;s similar to how we consider the Buzzworthy Crash Combiners to still be their RID selves even though their packaging doesn&#039;t point that out. Grimlock is a little dubious to me but I&#039;m fine with him being either G1 or RBA, and Primal could still follow the &amp;quot;it&#039;s just a new kid-friendly toy of the same old character&amp;quot; logic and be included in the BW character page. Any thoughts? --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 22:37, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::When I said &amp;quot;straight-up Rescue Bots stuff&amp;quot; I meant &amp;quot;this is the same exact text used previously for Rescue Bots product descriptions, which is why it&#039;s about imaging your toys racing to do rescues and so forth.&amp;quot; I mean to me this all reads as Rescue Bots/RBA Continued Just Without The Name, regardless of the art. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::To add an additional point to my argument that these should be classed as RB rather than G1, here&#039;s an Entertainment Earth listing for them as &amp;quot;Transformers Rescue Bots All-Stars Rescan Wave 3&amp;quot; [https://www.entertainmentearth.com/product/transformers-rescue-bots-allstars-rescan-wave-3-case-of-6/hsf0719c] --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:18, 17 March 2022 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Community_Portal&amp;diff=1596639</id>
		<title>MediaWiki talk:Community Portal</title>
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		<updated>2022-03-03T20:07:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: /* What makes a franchise? Or, does &amp;quot;Precursor World&amp;quot; exist? */&lt;/p&gt;
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This is the place for discussion of topics that affect the entire wiki. For less wide-reaching subjects, either use articles&#039; individual talk pages or [https://discord.gg/N99Bygq our Discord server].&lt;br /&gt;
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Some topics that would ordinarily be here have merited their own pages:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Moving From Wikia:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving|Arriving]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving|Leaving]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Complaints|Complaints]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;New Ad Policy:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki:Ads|Ads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bookworm Database-Crash:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Damage Control Central|Damage Control Central]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Project:Bookworm Crash]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving2|Leaving Take 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Server Move:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving2|Arriving Take 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Relicensing:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Relicensing|Relicensing]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Dealing With Vandalism:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Vandalism|Vandalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;GoBots Sister Wiki:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Site Logo revamp ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Up until now, our rotating logo on the main page tends to have a batch of logos pointing to pages from the most recent franchises and series, plus a few from older franchises that we forgot or didn&#039;t bother to remove. I&#039;d like to rework this system a bit to have a more even balance franchise-wise. I think we should have one character for every franchise that has had a cartoon or movie (including the JG1 shows), plus one from each of the major English-language comic runs (Marvel, Dreamwave, IDW1, and IDW2 at the bare minimum). This would be a good way to demonstrate the breadth of the franchise scope of the wiki, and help drive new readers towards legacy content. (Of course, we&#039;d still have a few extra banners based on whatever is currently running for the &amp;quot;Hey, I know that guy!&amp;quot; factor. Would love to get some thoughts on this, and potentially character suggestions for each franchise. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:59, 18 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think this is a great idea! Though, I&#039;m unsure on which characters from each show would be good to use. Like, would we go most popular/memorable characters or just some really random left field obscurities like G1 Skids who appeared in only two episodes of &#039;&#039;The Transformers&#039;&#039;, just to get some more eyes on character articles from franchises newer fans may not be fully aware of? Also, would Japanese-exclusive shows include &#039;&#039;Go!&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Q-Transformers&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Robotmasters&#039;&#039;? If so, maybe even an image from &#039;&#039;Portal&#039;&#039; (the Russian show) would be worthwhile too.  -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 02:47, 18 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Obscure/minor stuff risks just being the GO! Boxes again, and we already have those. For the big logo, best to go with majorish characters from majorish media. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 07:19, 18 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This sounds like a great idea. We could break it down like this: &lt;br /&gt;
G1 Seasons 1 and 2 - Optimus Prime, &lt;br /&gt;
TFTM/G1 Seasons 3 and 4 - Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, &lt;br /&gt;
G1 Marvel - Ratchet, &lt;br /&gt;
Headmasters - Fort Max, &lt;br /&gt;
Masterforce - Minerva, &lt;br /&gt;
Victory - Star Saber, &lt;br /&gt;
Idk if we would do Zone or any of the Japanese G1 stories that came after, &lt;br /&gt;
Beast Wars - Megatron, &lt;br /&gt;
Beast Wars II - Lio Convoy, &lt;br /&gt;
Beast Wars Neo - Magmatron, &lt;br /&gt;
RID/Car Robots - Side Burn, &lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve never read Dreamwave so I don&#039;t know a good character that represents it,  &lt;br /&gt;
Unicron Trilogy - Hot Shot, &lt;br /&gt;
IDW could be broken into a few character reps because of how long it went on, &lt;br /&gt;
IDW Furman Era - IDW Bumblebee, &lt;br /&gt;
IDW Post Furman - IDW Galvatron, &lt;br /&gt;
IDW MTMTE/LL - Nautica, &lt;br /&gt;
IDW RID/OP - IDW Optimus Prime, &lt;br /&gt;
Animated - Bulkhead, &lt;br /&gt;
Movies - Bumblebee, &lt;br /&gt;
WFC Games - Bruticus, &lt;br /&gt;
Prime - Starscream, &lt;br /&gt;
RID15 - Strongarm, &lt;br /&gt;
Cyberverse - Windblade, &lt;br /&gt;
WFC Trilogy - G1 Megatron, &lt;br /&gt;
And then we can have a few slots open for characters from the latest shows/movies. This list would give new readers an idea on how big the franchise truly is and how diverse the characters are. [[User:Paladin Denn|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn|talk]]) 18:03, 5 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Certainly if anyone&#039;s gonna represent CR/RiD&#039;01, it&#039;s gonna be Sky-Byte, the breakout star of the show, and not Side Burn, the Autobot womanizer. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 18:26, 5 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Funilly enough I meant to put him there lol. [[User:Paladin Denn|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn|talk]]) 20:43, 5 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Dreamwave, I&#039;d pick War Within Grimlock.  Certainly Shockwave should be part of 2005 IDW since he&#039;s responsible for the whole sha-bang.--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 18:40, 5 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Splitting Cloud characters ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So now we have some sorta adequate translations, I&#039;m being increasingly convinced that merging them just on the basis of AVP was a mistake and that the Cloud characters should be split out for simplicity and ease of explanation. Notably, the central conceit is far more similar to TransTech than G1—and more different to G1 than Cyberverse, for instance. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 02:44, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I was against it then and I&#039;m against it now. They&#039;re nothing like the TransTech; they are practically nigh identical to the G1 guys, there&#039;s a war going on in their universe, and the &amp;quot;central conceit&amp;quot; of them being multiversal guardians is more akin to Alternity than it is to TransTech, who for the majority of their fiction were at most passive observers. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 07:05, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I am declining to weigh in personally until I finish first pass translations but please at least pretend to look over the translated material before repeating the same arguments. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 12:19, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I have looked over it. Nothing is convincing me that it&#039;s all that separate from G1 stuff. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 12:29, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;War going on&amp;quot; describes most of Transformer fiction. What makes Cyberverse &amp;quot;not G1&amp;quot;, but Cloud G1, other than convenience for us editors? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:02, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: As far as I can tell, there is no basic divergence, aside from Grimlock&#039;s origins, from the Cloud characters to the G1 counterparts. I could point to a fair few examples on the side of Cyberverse that rank higher than that (Grimlock&#039;s presenations, the origins of the Quintessons and Sharkticons, Skywarp, Acid Storm, etc etc.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:23, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::We can be here all day debating over character minutiae, but the point is that Cyberverse ultimately doesn&#039;t diverge that much from G1 in its general premise as opposed to Cloud. G1 is bloated enough as it is; it doesn&#039;t hurt to take out the one thing that doesn&#039;t really fit in and make it its own thing. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:29, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Well that just comes right back to my question: what actually makes Cloud World&#039;s core conceit any different from G1 beyond the fact that they have technology that allows them dimensional travel? Because if it is just that, I simply do not believe that is enough to justify a split for characters who are almost all made to look like and have the same personality as the G1 characters. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:51, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I agree for the sake of wiki presentation. *Cloud* is more like *TransTech* than it is like *Alternity*. *Cloud* characters got to travel to both the G1 and MD worlds as equally separate destinations. TakaraTomy used the *Generations War for Cybertron* moulds as the *United* series, which is G1 and not Aligned by our classification. *Cloud* recycling unused *Generations Fall of Cybertron* toys in a non-Aligned setting strikes me as more evidence that we can allow *Cloud* to live on its own rather than as another G1 setting. And *Cloud* was chosen by e-HOBBY over the competing proposal *Prime Shattered Glass* which would also have been on separate wiki pages despite employing purely redeco mould choiceis. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:08, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not convinced by the idea that them saying &amp;quot;G1 World&amp;quot; is an indicator of separateness when there is also designations for &amp;quot;BW Spacetime&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;MF Spacetime.&amp;quot; Brawn is depicted as practically identical in appearance to G1 Brawn before being upgraded. As for the Prime Shattered Glass choice, I think it&#039;s pretty obvious why that would be completely separate from this particular issue. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:25, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The only reason Brawn is shown as the G1 body is if you take consideration that all Cloud members are drawn according to the latest toy or model available... he got no real toy before that, the only options were either G1 Sunbow, G1 toy or the tiny Universe 2.0 Legends. Now if you remove their appearance and focus on the story, Cloud is still more akin to Transtech than Alternity, Deadlock for example even got to visit the Legends World, a Aligned world (possibly the Adventure toyline) and the Ehobby spin-off dimension (now called Precursor World) -[[User:MahXyme|MahXyme/MahXymal]] ([[User talk:MahXyme|talk]]) 17:55, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes, I am aware of how Cloud repurposings work. Nothing prevents one G1 universe from visiting another. And aside from that, Japan has had barely any non-JG1 cartoon related G1 fiction; of course Cloud World, which isn&#039;t directly JG1 related, would be indicated as different; that doesn&#039;t mean that it&#039;s not able to be categorized as G1. If it were an American storyline, where we have always had multiple G1 storylines, I feel that this would not nearly be as much of a point of contention. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:05, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m in favor of splitting Cloud from G1. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 19:32, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I haven&#039;t read any of the Cloud fiction myself, but I know that if our translation team collectively agrees on something based on the material available, then that&#039;s more than enough convincing for me to agree with them also. In other words, I agree with a split. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:52, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;d vastly prefer if we could get someone like McFeely to weigh in on this. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:56, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::i&#039;m in favour of the split. The cloud people have enough characteristics to distonguist them from theur jg1 counterpatts.--[[User:ZacAttack|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack|talk]]) 20:14, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Alright, seriously, what characteristics are there actually to distinguish them from G1? Because nobody has been able to give me a concrete example so far. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:17, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::dinobot, heavy usage of aligned designs, hellwarp --[[User:ZacAttack|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack|talk]]) 21:36, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Looks like Escargon is the only voice against the split thus far. Still, I suggest the discussion should remain open longer than usual, out of courtesy for people not checking the wiki as regularly given the holiday season.  --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 21:47, 28 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:As the translations are still ongoing, I think the most we can suggest at this time is a note regarding its a classification as a Primax setting by AVP. As more information comes to light I&#039;m becoming increasingly convinced that it was a decision made on shaky logic. Unlike the Alternity there doesn&#039;t seem to be any evidence of these guys being derived in-universe from G1 guys. And as fiction, it&#039;s about a bunch of super advanced parallel universe monitor guys who regularly travel to other universes. If it&#039;s literally just &amp;quot;the cast is mostly recolours of toys with G1 fiction&amp;quot; then maybe we need to start talking about listing the War for Cybertron games as G1 too. [[User:Star Spangled Sam|Star Spangled Sam]] ([[User talk:Star Spangled Sam|talk]]) 01:44, 29 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::What exactly is super-advanced about them beyond SARA, who, as far as I can tell, is a gift from some being and not even their own creation? Because otherwise, they seem to be basic Transformers. Not a single person has been able to tell me that so far, and I&#039;d be far more willing to listen if someone would just spell out what exactly makes them so distinct that means they can&#039;t be G1. It&#039;s not about in-universe stuff, because for all intents and purposes, the characters themselves are nigh-identical to the Generation 1 characters; you look at Cloud Megatron or Cloud Rodimus and it is obvious that, irregardless of whatever the fiction might say, they are being sold as new versions of the G1 characters. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 04:29, 29 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::By the same logic, then why not put the FOC and WFC games under the G1 banner since it heavly takes inspirations from it, same settings (war on cybertron, the resources are becoming low, escaping to another world), closest designs to G1.. hell they were more marketed towards G1 than the Movies and Prime in mind (let&#039;s face it.. that&#039;s what Hasbro always does).. but the further Hasbro tied them to Aligned and they became their own thing.. Cloud is about that, maybe marketed as G1 at first but they became their own thing at the end -[[User:MahXyme|MahXyme/MahXymal]] ([[User talk:MahXyme|talk]]) 13:20, 29 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The WFC games are their own case that, despite what you say, were always clearly a part of Hasbro&#039;s ideas for the Aligned continuity, which is something that I&#039;m not going to bother going into here. Nothing about Cloud registers to me as being somehow so separate that it requires us splitting off things into their own pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:24, 29 December 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Bumping for more opinions. If there&#039;s no overall opposition to it by Friday or so, I&#039;ll start splitting. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:07, 4 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Cloud fiction prominently features the Cloud characters interacting with their own G1 counterparts. If nothing else, it should be split on same basis as [[Galvatron II]]. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 16:50, 4 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::We&#039;ve seen that with other fiction. I&#039;m not sure why it would justify them having their whole separate pages (Galvatron II is a unique case). If that&#039;s what it takes though to not go through some inane total split, though, then fine, whatever. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:03, 5 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:If there is to be movement on this in the immediate future I suppose I should go ahead and weigh in. As the one doing the translation I broadly agree with Riptide. While I am unmoved by philosophical discussions on what constitutes &amp;quot;G1-ness&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Transtech-ness,&amp;quot; I believe it is important to return to our guiding principle of the end user experience. Given the already convoluted nature of the material as well as the cast&#039;s consistent interaction with both various Generation 1 continuities in general and their own incarnations in specific, I believe it will be in the best interests of intelligibility for the reader to split out Cloud from Generation 1. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 11:25, 5 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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We are not going to pretend that these are completely separate from the Generation 1 characters. Put up a suite or a &amp;quot;see [X] article for more information&amp;quot; because it is completely ridiculous to pretend that Cloud is it&#039;s own little continuity. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:38, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. Cloud should be split off entirely. So let&#039;s have an official vote and resolve this. I say &#039;&#039;&#039;Split&#039;&#039;&#039;. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:28, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The articles have already been split. You&#039;ll forgive me if I don&#039;t show confidence in the decision from people who blew me off when I pointed out their original reason for splitting was incorrect (that supposedly the Almanac had come out before Cloud was truly explained, but in fact it had come after almost all of it had been published). [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:35, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This discussion has been open for twelve days. An unofficial tally shows at least 7-to-1 in favor of splitting. No one else has openly agreed with your position. Given that, and that Saix announced days in advance he would start splitting if there was no further discussion, it wasn&#039;t unreasonable for him to begin. But maybe there&#039;s a different split of opinions on the Discord or wherever, so it&#039;s certainly appropriate to ask for an official vote. Beyond that...the decision is just not up to you alone. The point of democracy is for all voices to be heard, not to leave every voice feeling satisfied with the outcome. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 11:08, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I have no idea what&#039;s going on in the Discord server; I&#039;m barred from it. I certainly hope there&#039;s not more discussion going on over there, because I was told that there would be a push to have these sorts of big discussions to be on the wiki. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:42, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::With all due respect: You need to stop putting so much emphasis on the in-universe designation, which AVP itself pointed out was ultimately arbitrary. I understand that AVP and the Almanacs are important to you, but Jim is not infallible, and while I&#039;m sure he had good reasons for calling it &amp;quot;Primax&amp;quot; that&#039;s ultimately just &#039;&#039;his opinion&#039;&#039;. Cloud being &amp;quot;its own thing&amp;quot; isn&#039;t some essential property; it&#039;s a matter of how to organise the wiki in order to make the fiction clear. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:47, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I also vote &#039;&#039;&#039;Split&#039;&#039;&#039; if only because of how better translations now has pointed out various past errors/assumptions/presumptions that needed correcting, and thus updating is needed so as to make things easier to categorize and organize here. Any wiki really worth their salt and wanting to do proper service to their respective franchises&#039; fandoms would do the same. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 14:43, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I &#039;&#039;still&#039;&#039; haven&#039;t got an answer for what makes Cloud so different that makes it &#039;&#039;need&#039;&#039; to be split. If there were a crossover between say, Marvel and Sunbow, nobody in their right mind we should completely separate, say, Huffer from Huffer. I&#039;m willing to admit that I might just be missing something, but nothing in the stories themselves, as far as I can see, suggests it, beyond the aforementioned Cloud World classification, which for me is not enough of a justification. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:33, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Neither Marvel nor Sunbow consists primarily of crossovers with another G1 continuity. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 19:20, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::If that&#039;s the main avenue of justification then frankly I don&#039;t think I&#039;m ever going to agree with that line of reasoning, but I can clearly see I&#039;m outvoted on this. I wish there would have been more people asked before the split was done, though, because I can see that this could very easily end up being another whole &amp;quot;retitling things to FSRLF&amp;quot; situation. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:00, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::We functionally split out Marvel and Sunbow versions for a lot of characters anyway. We&#039;re at the point where we draw lines based on how easy/hard it is for the information to be conveyed, not whether it&#039;s G1 enough or not. We think Cloud, as its own fullblown storyline/premise, falls on the side of &amp;quot;it&#039;s easier to read and parse it if they get their own shebang&amp;quot; instead of burying them in overlong G1 articles. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:11, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m not gonna argue further on this because I recognize it&#039;s a losing battle, but I think that the line of thought of &amp;quot;this one bit of media shouldn&#039;t be kept in an article because it won&#039;t get out there otherwise&amp;quot; sets a bad precedent that could easily be misused in the future. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:39, 8 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Should the Cloud toys also be removed from the G1 character&#039;s pages? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 09:21, 17 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yeah no, It vould be too convoluted, example look at the redirections [[Transformers_Cloud#Toys|there]]... where should each toy be redirected?? + the fiction regarding said toys has their own page now -[[User:MahXyme|MahXyme/MahXymal]] ([[User talk:MahXyme|talk]]) 10:58, 17 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::...What on earth are you talking about? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:16, 17 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Srry I misread his question.. I thought he meant &amp;quot;added&amp;quot; not &amp;quot;removed&amp;quot; from the G1 pages...&lt;br /&gt;
:Not entirely certain what you&#039;re asking, but the eight toys in the Cloud toyline (plus Deadlock) have already been moved to the Cloud pages in conjunction with the fiction, as they solely represent Cloud characters. The remaining Cloud characters repurpose existing toys. The writeups for those toys remain on the original pages with duplicates on the repurpose pages, as is standard practice. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 11:54, 17 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I mean, for example, [[Blaster_(G1)/toys#Generations|G1 Blaster&#039;s toy page]] has FOC Blaster on it, due to FOC Blaster being repurposed as Cloud Blaster. Should that repurposing be removed from G1 Blaster&#039;s page, since Cloud Blaster isn&#039;t considered to be G1 Blaster anymore? [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 12:34, 17 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I believe yeah, the splitting between G1 and Cloud was recent (done last month) so there&#039;s still leftover traces on the wiki, if you can take your time to remove them why not -[[User:MahXyme|MahXyme/MahXymal]] ([[User talk:MahXyme|talk]]) 16:44, 17 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Ok, good. I just wanted to check I wasn&#039;t missing anything. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 17:13, 17 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Oh! Yes those should go, good eye! -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 10:52, 18 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Split Movie Character Toy lists?==&lt;br /&gt;
Just as what happened with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys]] and [[Megatron (G1)/toys]], I suggest we split certain Movie toy pages such as [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys]] and [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys]] as both pages have become excessively bloated. I suggest we separate them by having the original Bay film toylines (07, ROFT, DOTM, AOE, TLK, and any pre SS sub lines) have their own page and starting a new one that Contains SS, BB, and the upcoming ROTB toylines, alongside any future movie toylines until the new page itself becomes heavily bloated [[User:Paladin Denn|Paladin Denn]] ([[User talk:Paladin Denn|talk]]) 18:43, 5 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry for being this late but given that ROTB toys are apparently coming this spring, I suggest you split like one part contains all 5 movies while the other starts with SS and BB until now -[[User:MahXyme|MahXyme/MahXymal]] ([[User talk:MahXyme|talk]]) 15:26, 22 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Multi-part comic stories ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For old Marvel UK multi-part stories like [[Target: 2006]] or [[Time Wars]], we put the whole thing under a single article, but for modern-day ones like each storyline in [[Transformers (2019 comic)]] we have a separate article for each issue. Is there a good reason for the discrepancy, or are the old ones just an artefact of a time in the wiki&#039;s history that didn&#039;t follow our current standards? --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 09:36, 22 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:The thing with that is that it&#039;s a result of how the UK comic was written; there&#039;d be about 8 or so pages per issue, meaning that we&#039;d have a lot of little articles that are easier just grouped together. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:16, 22 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Makes sense, although that&#039;s essentially what we have for [[The Transformers: Autocracy]] et al., which are also 8 pages per issue. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 15:38, 23 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The difference with Autocracy lies mostly in that pretty much all of those issues have a beginning and end, and also have different titles. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:47, 23 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Oh, I always thought our headings on the Marvel UK story pages &#039;&#039;were&#039;&#039; the issue titles. --[[User:Flicky1991|flicky]][[User talk:Flicky1991|1991]] 01:21, 24 January 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Composite characters and page transclusion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is something I&#039;ve had the idea about for a while, but I&#039;ve finally had a look at how the markup for it works and have come up with a proposal.  The pages for [[Greatshot]] and [[Sixshot (G1)]] contain an entirely duplicated section set around the &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; cartoon owing to a retcon that occurred in the much later Legends manga.  This is not an ideal solution because, among other reasons, any edits to Greatshot&#039;s cartoon section necessitates making the same edit to Sixshot&#039;s section.&lt;br /&gt;
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Over in my sandbox, I&#039;ve whipped up the page [[User:TheLastGherkin/Greatshot-test]], containing only the events that happened to both Greatshot and the retconned Sixshot.  By inserting &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{:User:TheLastGherkin/Greatshot-test}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; into the relevant parts of Greatshot and Sixshot&#039;s pages (also sandboxed [[User:TheLastGherkin/Greatshot|here]] and [[User:TheLastGherkin/Sixshot|here]]), the same information is automatically transcluded.  And clicking &amp;quot;Edit&amp;quot; on, for example, the Legends manga section on Sixshot&#039;s page automatically redirects the user to editing that portion of Greatshot-test, thus updating all three pages at once.&lt;br /&gt;
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If we go forward with this, I can see it being used for other characters in similar situations, like BWU [[Wolfang (Maximal)#Beast Wars: Uprising|Wolfang]], or Unite Warriors [[Roller (IDW)#Unite Warriors|Roller]], or putting the lion&#039;s share (pun intended) of [[Victory Leo]]&#039;s fictional appearances back onto Victory Leo&#039;s page.  With refinements, like say a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; explanation for what each subpage is for the layperson (&amp;quot;This page covers the events of the Japanese Generation 1 continuity, where Greatshot and Sixshot are the same individual...&amp;quot;) and maybe a [[:Category:Transcluded pages]], I could see this really working, and it could probably be bent into shape for repurposed toys as well. [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 12:48, 10 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:If we cannot avoid this sort of duplicated information entirely, this does seem like a pretty ideal solve to mitigate the constant peril of copy editing flubs maintaining multiple copies of one write-up entails. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 13:56, 10 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Is there any way to get rid of the &amp;quot;This section is transcluded from another page. To edit it, please edit the transcluded page.&amp;quot; notice? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:06, 10 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::There is! I just put that there manually while experimenting and also to make clear where the transcluded section is.  In practice, since clicking &amp;quot;Edit&amp;quot; on a transcluded section takes you to the source page, a notice like that can be relegated to a commented-out note for editors who click to Edit the entire page (or a larger section). [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 16:16, 10 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Oh, I thought it was automatic software stuff. Whoops, never mind. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:22, 10 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, this works for fiction, but I see it running into issues when it comes to toys. (Thinking of Sixshot/Greatshot, Sixshot always gets toys first with Greatshot as the retool later in the same line.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:14, 10 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve made some tweaks to my sandboxes, including standardising the transcluded page. Are there any objections before I start implementing this (in fiction sections)? [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 07:10, 12 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I sense that there could be an issue in the future where, for whatever reason, these sorts of characters diverge back into separate ones, whether it be through alternate continuities or whatever. Also, in the case of Greatshot, I feel like at the very beginning of his entry, there has to be something different to set up the Sixshot retcon, and just having the same opening text doesn&#039;t do that. 08:57, 12 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::His toy bio that mentions Sixshot as a separate person could go there. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:21, 16 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This could also be applied to Primus and Vector Sigma for their 3H comics sections since they are one and the same in that continuity. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 19:26, 26 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What makes a franchise? Or, does &amp;quot;Precursor World&amp;quot; exist? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So, browsing around the wiki, as one does, and came across this: https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Precursor_World_(franchise)&lt;br /&gt;
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Now, I&#039;m not as well-versed in the Legends + Selects comics, so maybe this is incorrect, but to the best of my understanding, the branding &amp;quot;Precursor World&amp;quot; doesn&#039;t exist — this story was told across Generations Selects and Legends, and no toy or story was ever released branded as &amp;quot;Precursor World&amp;quot;. It doesn&#039;t seem like the name even existed until pretty recently. &lt;br /&gt;
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This...isn&#039;t a franchise, right? It&#039;s a long-running story told across various medium, but it&#039;s not a franchise, and calling it such implies something that isn&#039;t true. &lt;br /&gt;
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Particularly, the idea that there is a &amp;quot;toyline&amp;quot; seems a bit of a stretch. There are only three listed &amp;quot;official&amp;quot; toys, but none of them were released under the &amp;quot;Precursor World&amp;quot; branding (which near as I can tell does not exist) and the list of &amp;quot;repurposings&amp;quot; seems almost entirely just &amp;quot;this toy/characters showed up in this story&amp;quot; which doesn&#039;t seem like anything&#039;s been repurposed to me. The IDW comics used a bunch of existing/prior toys, but that doesn&#039;t create a toyline of that comic series. &lt;br /&gt;
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Am I off base here? --[[User:Spectre|Spectre]] ([[User talk:Spectre|talk]]) 12:16, 3 March 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Okay there&#039;s a lot to unpack here but to begin with every single one of those toys is being repurposed as a separate object/character in a separate setting a la, for example, [[Green Tender Convoy]] and the [[Matrix Buster|Red Matrix]]. Most of the unnamed crowdfillers are minimized to footnotes on existing articles to avoid generating a bazillion stubs. The closest analogue I can give you is the [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|toyline]] for the original &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; iteration of Shattered Glass. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 12:35, 3 March 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I&#039;ll grant that those indeed seem to be repurposings, but the vast majority of toys on this list merely link to the toy entry for the toy on the regular character&#039;s page. I don&#039;t think having a list of members of these groups is bad (it&#039;s good!) but I don&#039;t think this is a toyline. Again, crucially, Shattered Glass has a brand, with the official toys released under that brand, whereas precursor world does not. IDW repurposed WfC/FoC/aligned toys as G1 characters, but this didn&#039;t create a virtual toyline associated with that comic. --[[User:Spectre|Spectre]] ([[User talk:Spectre|talk]]) 12:46, 3 March 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Arguably Shattered Glass toys weren&#039;t really released under their own brand either until the recent Hasbro Pulse stuff, until then the figures were all just released under the &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039; banner or whatever else Fun Pub used at the time - the idea of a singular &amp;quot;Shattered Glass toyline&amp;quot; was just as much of a constructed idea until like a year ago. I can&#039;t say &amp;quot;franchise&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;toyline&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;aren&#039;t&#039;&#039; slightly more non-literal labels than usual in this context, but I do think there&#039;s value in having the info collated like this, and I can&#039;t think of &#039;&#039;better&#039;&#039; labels that aren&#039;t something stupid like &amp;quot;(meta franchise)&amp;quot;. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 12:57, 3 March 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::To be honest, I&#039;m inclined to agree re: Shattered Glass, and would not be opposed to restructuring the toyline page to delineate between the &amp;quot;Shatted Glass Collection&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Shattered Glass toys released via Timelines&amp;quot; or something. Shattered Glass does, however, have a leg up on Precursor World given that every official SG toy was branded as &amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot; in some way, though perhaps not as a &amp;quot;franchise&amp;quot;. The box set is called Shattered Glass, and every official toy was called &amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot;. There&#039;s some nuance there, of course, as arguably those are part of the character&#039;s names ala &amp;quot;Prime Universe Bulkhead&amp;quot; is still a Legacy toy, not a Prime toy, but I&#039;d be happy to have a debate around the best way to frame Shattered Glass stuff given those discrepancies. Allll that said, Shattered Glass is today a franchise, but there have been zero anythings released with Precursor World branding or labeling. --[[User:Spectre|Spectre]] ([[User talk:Spectre|talk]]) 13:06, 3 March 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Precursor World is definitely not a &amp;quot;franchise&amp;quot; and should not have that label. The model to look at here is the [[Beast Wars: Uprising]] article, which gives an overview of the thing, lists it&#039;s stories and toys, but does not use the &amp;quot;franchise&amp;quot; label, and doesn&#039;t &#039;&#039;need&#039;&#039; to use it. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 15:07, 3 March 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Generations_Selects_(toyline)&amp;diff=1593931</id>
		<title>Talk:Generations Selects (toyline)</title>
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		<updated>2022-02-15T01:50:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Split==&lt;br /&gt;
My biggest issue with a split is that HasTak treats the line as a single entity. Some of the Hasbro toys are sold in the Japanese market and the Takara toys are sold in the Western market. It&#039;s very different to Generations Japan where Takara didn&#039;t really know what they were doing with that set of toys until creating the Legends line. The brand-unification is also a big thing to think about too. Unlike the Japanese Generations line, all of the figures shared between the two markets are identical, even if the website listings like to give them different names and ID numbers. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 17:53, 14 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; don&#039;t see the benefit of a split here, especially to a reader. It&#039;s not like the page is massive or unwieldy. All a split would do is introduce needless hoop-jumping for content that is incredibly similar because... pedantry? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:39, 14 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I see no reason for a split. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 20:50, 14 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Official_stop_motion_videos&amp;diff=1593142</id>
		<title>Talk:Official stop motion videos</title>
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		<updated>2022-02-08T18:28:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Is &amp;quot;stop motions&amp;quot; grammatically correct? Is that how the term is used, as a noun? I usually see &amp;quot;stop motion&amp;quot; used as a modifier, &amp;quot;stop motion video&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;stop motion animation&amp;quot; and the like, not just on it&#039;s own as the name of the thing itself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 13:23, 8 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Also, this article really doesn&#039;t need &amp;quot;official&amp;quot; in it&#039;s title, right? It goes without saying that what this wiki covers is official stuff.  --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 13:28, 8 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Official_stop_motion_videos&amp;diff=1593141</id>
		<title>Talk:Official stop motion videos</title>
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		<updated>2022-02-08T18:23:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Is &amp;quot;stop motions&amp;quot; grammatically correct? Is that how the term is used, as a noun? I usually see &amp;quot;stop motion&amp;quot; used as a modifier, &amp;quot;stop motion video&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;stop motion animation&amp;quot; and the like, not just on it&#039;s own as the name of the thing itself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 13:23, 8 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Official_stop_motion_videos&amp;diff=1593140</id>
		<title>Talk:Official stop motion videos</title>
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		<updated>2022-02-08T18:23:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: Created page with &amp;quot;Is &amp;quot;stop motions&amp;quot; grammatically correct? Is that how the term is used, as a noun? I usually see &amp;quot;stop motion&amp;quot; used as a modifier, &amp;quot;stop motion video&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;stop motion animation...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Is &amp;quot;stop motions&amp;quot; grammatically correct? Is that how the term is used, as a noun? I usually see &amp;quot;stop motion&amp;quot; used as a modifier, &amp;quot;stop motion video&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;stop motion animation&amp;quot; and the like, noy just on it&#039;s own as the name of the thing itself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 13:23, 8 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1593004</id>
		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this Heatwave:&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F]&lt;br /&gt;
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for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s due to the fact that it uses the [[Evergreen]] art primarily used for G1 media.—[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 17:45, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I get that, but nevertheless, you have Rescue Bots redecos and RB-style new molds, under a label &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; which has already been used for Rescue Bots toys, and even the product description...&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;Imagine helping the Autobots save the day! These toys are ready to take to the streets and charge to the rescue! Kids ages 3 and up can pretend there is a dangerous situation unfolding and convert the brave 4.5-inch action figure from a robot to a vehicle they can imagine racing to the scene for a courageous rescue.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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...is straight-up Rescue Bots stuff. So, like I said, I am dubious about grouping this into G1 regards of said art.--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 20:32, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just reads like generic toddler toy writeup. We have things like Buzzworthy Bumblebee and Generations that don&#039;t indicate &amp;quot;continuity families&amp;quot;, so reuse of labeling for young kid toys isn&#039;t really that convincing to me. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:27, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Okay, but since CHT is somewhat like Buzzworthy about disregarding continuity families, couldn&#039;t we still consider at least Prime and Bumblebee to be their Aligned selves? They&#039;re literally the same toys from Rescue Bots being rereleased again after multiple other rereleases, just like the Heatwave toy mentioned above. It&#039;s similar to how we consider the Buzzworthy Crash Combiners to still be their RID selves even though their packaging doesn&#039;t point that out. Grimlock is a little dubious to me but I&#039;m fine with him being either G1 or RBA, and Primal could still follow the &amp;quot;it&#039;s just a new kid-friendly toy of the same old character&amp;quot; logic and be included in the BW character page. Any thoughts? --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 22:37, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::When I said &amp;quot;straight-up Rescue Bots stuff&amp;quot; I meant &amp;quot;this is the same exact text used previously for Rescue Bots product descriptions, which is why it&#039;s about imaging your toys racing to do rescues and so forth.&amp;quot; I mean to me this all reads as Rescue Bots/RBA Continued Just Without The Name, regardless of the art. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1593003</id>
		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
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		<updated>2022-02-08T04:21:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this Heatwave:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F]&lt;br /&gt;
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for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s due to the fact that it uses the [[Evergreen]] art primarily used for G1 media.—[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 17:45, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I get that, but nevertheless, you have Rescue Bots redecos and RB-style new molds, under a label &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; which has already been used for Rescue Bots toys, and even the product description...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Imagine helping the Autobots save the day! These toys are ready to take to the streets and charge to the rescue! Kids ages 3 and up can pretend there is a dangerous situation unfolding and convert the brave 4.5-inch action figure from a robot to a vehicle they can imagine racing to the scene for a courageous rescue.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
...is straight-up Rescue Bots stuff. So, like I said, I am dubious about grouping this into G1 regards of said art.--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 20:32, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just reads like generic toddler toy writeup. We have things like Buzzworthy Bumblebee and Generations that don&#039;t indicate &amp;quot;continuity families&amp;quot;, so reuse of labeling for young kid toys isn&#039;t really that convincing to me. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:27, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Okay, but since CHT is somewhat like Buzzworthy about disregarding continuity families, couldn&#039;t we still consider at least Prime and Bumblebee to be their Aligned selves? They&#039;re literally the same toys from Rescue Bots being rereleased again after multiple other rereleases, just like the Heatwave toy mentioned above. It&#039;s similar to how we consider the Buzzworthy Crash Combiners to still be their RID selves even though their packaging doesn&#039;t point that out. Grimlock is a little dubious to me but I&#039;m fine with him being either G1 or RBA, and Primal could still follow the &amp;quot;it&#039;s just a new kid-friendly toy of the same old character&amp;quot; logic and be included in the BW character page. Any thoughts? --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 22:37, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::When I said &amp;quot;straight-up Rescue Bots stuff&amp;quot; I meant &amp;quot;this the same exact text used previously for Rescue Bots product descriptions, which is why it&#039;s about imaging your toys doing racing to do rescues and so forth.&amp;quot; I mean to me this all read as Rescue Bots/RBA Continued Just Without The Name, regardless of the art. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1593001</id>
		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
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		<updated>2022-02-08T04:19:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this Heatwave:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s due to the fact that it uses the [[Evergreen]] art primarily used for G1 media.—[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 17:45, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I get that, but nevertheless, you have Rescue Bots redecos and RB-style new molds, under a label &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; which has already been used for Rescue Bots toys, and even the product description...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Imagine helping the Autobots save the day! These toys are ready to take to the streets and charge to the rescue! Kids ages 3 and up can pretend there is a dangerous situation unfolding and convert the brave 4.5-inch action figure from a robot to a vehicle they can imagine racing to the scene for a courageous rescue.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
...is straight-up Rescue Bots stuff. So, like I said, I am dubious about grouping this into G1 regards of said art.--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 20:32, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That just reads like generic toddler toy writeup. We have things like Buzzworthy Bumblebee and Generations that don&#039;t indicate &amp;quot;continuity families&amp;quot;, so reuse of labeling for young kid toys isn&#039;t really that convincing to me. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:27, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Okay, but since CHT is somewhat like Buzzworthy about disregarding continuity families, couldn&#039;t we still consider at least Prime and Bumblebee to be their Aligned selves? They&#039;re literally the same toys from Rescue Bots being rereleased again after multiple other rereleases, just like the Heatwave toy mentioned above. It&#039;s similar to how we consider the Buzzworthy Crash Combiners to still be their RID selves even though their packaging doesn&#039;t point that out. Grimlock is a little dubious to me but I&#039;m fine with him being either G1 or RBA, and Primal could still follow the &amp;quot;it&#039;s just a new kid-friendly toy of the same old character&amp;quot; logic and be included in the BW character page. Any thoughts? --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 22:37, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::When I said &amp;quot;straight-up Rescue Bots stuff&amp;quot; I meant &amp;quot;this the same exact text used previously for Rescue Bots product descriptions, which is why it&#039;s about imaging your toys doing racing to do rescues and stuff.&amp;quot; --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1592972</id>
		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1592972"/>
		<updated>2022-02-08T01:32:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this Heatwave:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s due to the fact that it uses the [[Evergreen]] art primarily used for G1 media.—[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 17:45, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I get that, but nevertheless, you have Rescue Bots redecos and RB-style new molds, under a label &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; which has already been used for Rescue Bots toys, and even the product description...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Imagine helping the Autobots save the day! These toys are ready to take to the streets and charge to the rescue! Kids ages 3 and up can pretend there is a dangerous situation unfolding and convert the brave 4.5-inch action figure from a robot to a vehicle they can imagine racing to the scene for a courageous rescue.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
...is straight-up Rescue Bots stuff. So, like I said, I am dubious about grouping this into G1 regards of said art.--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 20:32, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1592970</id>
		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
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		<updated>2022-02-08T01:32:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this Heatwave:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s due to the fact that it uses the [[Evergreen]] art primarily used for G1 media.—[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 17:45, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I get that, but nevertheless, you have Rescue Bots redecos and RB-style new molds, under a label &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; which has already been used for Rescue Bots toys, and even the product description...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  &#039;&#039;Imagine helping the Autobots save the day! These toys are ready to take to the streets and charge to the rescue! Kids ages 3 and up can pretend there is a dangerous situation unfolding and convert the brave 4.5-inch action figure from a robot to a vehicle they can imagine racing to the scene for a courageous rescue.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
...is straight-up Rescue Bots stuff. So, like I said, I am dubious about grouping this into G1 regards of said art.--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 20:32, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1592951</id>
		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1592951"/>
		<updated>2022-02-07T22:23:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: trying to get this link working&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this Heatwave:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1592950</id>
		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1592950"/>
		<updated>2022-02-07T22:22:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this [https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F|this Heatwave] for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1592949</id>
		<title>Talk:Transformers: Classic Heroes Team</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Transformers:_Classic_Heroes_Team&amp;diff=1592949"/>
		<updated>2022-02-07T22:19:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: Created page with &amp;quot;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&amp;#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been u...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I am dubious about reclassing these as G1 rather than Rescue Bots. Yes, I know the Rescue Bots name doesn&#039;t appear on the package, but &amp;quot;Classic Heroes Team&amp;quot; has in fact been used by Hasbro for RB characters see this [https://transformers.hasbro.com/en-us/product/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-classic-heroes-team-heatwave-the-fire-bot-converting-toy-4-5-inch-figure-kids-ages-3-and-up:CC54FF1C-EFFE-4E4C-92B3-A53DC88D4A7F}|Heatwave] for example. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 17:19, 7 February 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Ramos&amp;diff=1562028</id>
		<title>Anthony Ramos</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Ramos&amp;diff=1562028"/>
		<updated>2021-10-22T19:29:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: Just trying to clean this up, it originally implied Ramos played Usnavi in the original Broadway run of In The Heights, which is wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:RamosDogs.jpeg|right|thumb|300px|We searched far and wide for him to admit he is a dog person.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Anthony Ramos Martinez&#039;&#039;&#039; (born [[November 1]], [[1991]]) is an American actor and singer. His first claim to fame was originating the dual roles of John Laurens and Philip Hamilton in the Broadway musical &#039;&#039;Hamilton&#039;&#039; by Lin-Manuel Miranda. His success on Broadway would later garner him acting roles in films from the likes of &#039;&#039;Godzilla: King of the Monsters&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;A Star is Born&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Trolls World Tour&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Honest Thief&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;White Girl&#039;&#039; and the theatrical adaptation of &#039;&#039;In the Heights.&#039;&#039; Other ventures of his career includes acting roles on television in &#039;&#039;She&#039;s Gotta Have It&#039;&#039; on [[Netflix]], the revived seasons of &#039;&#039;Will &amp;amp; Grace&#039;&#039; and contributing the soundtrack for &#039;&#039;Space Jam: A New Legacy&#039;&#039; performing the song &amp;quot;The Best&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Roles==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Noah]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Ramos himself was a fan of the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; animated series growing up.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://people.com/movies/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-star-anthony-ramos-says-his-head-exploded-reading-script/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During production of &#039;&#039;Rise of the Beasts&#039;&#039;, Ramos had to acquire a driver&#039;s liscence per [[Steven Caple Jr.]]&#039;s behest.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.buzzfeed.com/joyannjeffrey/anthony-ramos-transformers-drivers-license]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Reference==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6588867/ Anthony Ramos at IMDB]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://twitter.com/ARamosofficial Anthony Ramos on Twitter]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.instagram.com/anthonyramosofficial/ Anthony Ramos on Instagram]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ramos, Anthony}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:DreamWorks]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:On-camera actors]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Ramos&amp;diff=1562023</id>
		<title>Anthony Ramos</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Ramos&amp;diff=1562023"/>
		<updated>2021-10-22T19:23:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: wait no&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:RamosDogs.jpeg|right|thumb|300px|We searched far and wide for him to admit he is a dog person.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Anthony Ramos Martinez&#039;&#039;&#039; (born [[November 1]], [[1991]]) is an American actor and singer. His first claim to fame was originating the dual roles of John Laurens and Philip Hamilton in the Broadway musical &#039;&#039;Hamilton&#039;&#039; by Lin-Manuel Miranda. His success on Broadway would later garner him acting roles in films from the likes of &#039;&#039;Godzilla: King of the Monsters&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;A Star is Born&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Trolls World Tour&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Honest Thief&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;White Girl&#039;&#039; and the theatrical adaptation of &#039;&#039;In the Heights&#039;&#039;, where he reprised his role as Usnavi de la Vega. Other ventures of his career includes acting roles on television in &#039;&#039;She&#039;s Gotta Have It&#039;&#039; on [[Netflix]], the revived seasons of &#039;&#039;Will &amp;amp; Grace&#039;&#039; and contributing the soundtrack for &#039;&#039;Space Jam: A New Legacy&#039;&#039; performing the song &amp;quot;The Best&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Roles==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Noah]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Ramos himself was a fan of the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; animated series growing up.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://people.com/movies/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-star-anthony-ramos-says-his-head-exploded-reading-script/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During production of &#039;&#039;Rise of the Beasts&#039;&#039;, Ramos had to acquire a driver&#039;s liscence per [[Steven Caple Jr.]]&#039;s behest.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.buzzfeed.com/joyannjeffrey/anthony-ramos-transformers-drivers-license]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Reference==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6588867/ Anthony Ramos at IMDB]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://twitter.com/ARamosofficial Anthony Ramos on Twitter]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.instagram.com/anthonyramosofficial/ Anthony Ramos on Instagram]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ramos, Anthony}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:DreamWorks]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:On-camera actors]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Ramos&amp;diff=1562020</id>
		<title>Anthony Ramos</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Anthony_Ramos&amp;diff=1562020"/>
		<updated>2021-10-22T19:22:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:RamosDogs.jpeg|right|thumb|300px|We searched far and wide for him to admit he is a dog person.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Anthony Ramos Martinez&#039;&#039;&#039; (born [[November 1]], [[1991]]) is an American actor and singer. His first claim to fame was originating the dual roles of John Laurens and Philip Hamilton in the Broadway musical &#039;&#039;Hamilton&#039;&#039; by Lin-Manuel Miranda and he later played Usnavi de la Vega in the film adaptation of &#039;&#039;In the Heights&#039;&#039;, also by Miranda. His success on Broadway would later garner him acting roles in films from the likes of &#039;&#039;Godzilla: King of the Monsters&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;A Star is Born&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Trolls World Tour&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Honest Thief&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;White Girl&#039;&#039; and the theatrical adaptation of &#039;&#039;In the Heights&#039;&#039;, where he reprised his role as Usnavi de la Vega. Other ventures of his career includes acting roles on television in &#039;&#039;She&#039;s Gotta Have It&#039;&#039; on [[Netflix]], the revived seasons of &#039;&#039;Will &amp;amp; Grace&#039;&#039; and contributing the soundtrack for &#039;&#039;Space Jam: A New Legacy&#039;&#039; performing the song &amp;quot;The Best&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Roles==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rise of the Beasts]]&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Noah]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*Ramos himself was a fan of the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; animated series growing up.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://people.com/movies/transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-star-anthony-ramos-says-his-head-exploded-reading-script/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*During production of &#039;&#039;Rise of the Beasts&#039;&#039;, Ramos had to acquire a driver&#039;s liscence per [[Steven Caple Jr.]]&#039;s behest.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.buzzfeed.com/joyannjeffrey/anthony-ramos-transformers-drivers-license]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Reference==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6588867/ Anthony Ramos at IMDB]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://twitter.com/ARamosofficial Anthony Ramos on Twitter]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.instagram.com/anthonyramosofficial/ Anthony Ramos on Instagram]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ramos, Anthony}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:DreamWorks]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:On-camera actors]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Community_Portal&amp;diff=1555453</id>
		<title>MediaWiki talk:Community Portal</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=MediaWiki_talk:Community_Portal&amp;diff=1555453"/>
		<updated>2021-09-23T17:10:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: /* Disambigs for TM2 characters */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;__NEWSECTIONLINK__&lt;br /&gt;
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This is the place for discussion of topics that affect the entire wiki. For less wide-reaching subjects, either use articles&#039; individual talk pages or [https://discord.gg/N99Bygq our Discord server].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some topics that would ordinarily be here have merited their own pages:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{chapters|title=Specific Discussion Subjects|align=left|content=&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Moving From Wikia:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving|Arriving]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving|Leaving]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki:Community Portal/Complaints|Complaints]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;New Ad Policy:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki:Ads|Ads]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Bookworm Database-Crash:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Damage Control Central|Damage Control Central]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Project:Bookworm Crash]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving2|Leaving Take 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Server Move:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Arriving2|Arriving Take 2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Relicensing|Relicensing]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;list-header&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Dealing With Vandalism:&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Vandalism|Vandalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/GoBots|Discussion on the place of GoBots in this wiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Transformers_Wiki:Tech|A Not So Brief Summary of the Horrible Things That McFly and Co. Have Done To Keep This Wiki From Melting Down]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==User account created, but no activity==&lt;br /&gt;
Something I&#039;ve noticed when I&#039;d pop in every once in awhile when checking the Recent Changes/User Creation Log is that once a new user account has been created, there&#039;s no activity. Granted, some have been blocked for various reasons (mostly the autoblocks), but I wonder whether there should be anything done to the others (aside of just leaving them alone). Like, delete the username after a certain period of no activity, or would that affect the IP address? I&#039;m reminded of how one user had a history of creating and then camping subreddits, which was against Reddit&#039;s TOS. -- [[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 00:12, 7 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a maintenance script we can run which deletes old users with no edits to their name, ISTR. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 17:20, 7 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That sounds good. -- [[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 20:26, 10 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Minor skin tweak ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The latest version of Firefox was making the scrollbars look funky and blue on our site, so I have put some css in to fix them. Hopefully this should not affect any other browsers, but please let me know if you&#039;re using Chrome or IE7 or something and it is causing a problem. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 20:20, 8 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== 2007 Movie Universe and 2018 Movie Universe ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since Bumblebee is officially a reboot, will we be separating the sections on the movies similar to what has been recently done with the IDW 2005 and 2019 sections? --[[User:Waspscream|Waspscream]] ([[User talk:Waspscream|talk]]) 21:36, 16 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: No, because we don&#039;t know it&#039;s a proper reboot yet, so we have no reason to do so. This has been discussed at length already. [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers#Bumblebee|Please read this.]] -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 23:05, 16 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Prime Wars Placement ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m probably being an idiot and there&#039;s a perfectly valid reason for it, but why aren&#039;t the Prime Wars Trilogy bios placed in character&#039;s G1 Cartoon sections? Is it the slight IDW influence, or not enough evidence that they belong there? --[[User:Waspscream|Waspscream]] ([[User talk:Waspscream|talk]]) 23:16, 26 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Prime Wars Trilogy is a completely separate continuity from the G1 cartoon. The G1 Cartoon sections are for information detailing a character&#039;s exploits in continuities tied directly or nearly directly to that 1984-1987 animated series produced by Marvel Productions and Sunbow Productions, which the Prime Wars Trilogy has no connection to and therefore gets it own separate section on each character&#039;s page. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 23:25, 26 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I could agree to that back when Combiner Wars was out, but by the time of Power Of The Primes, there were a lot of additions, such as Megatron once having been Galvatron and Unicron stuck as a head, that seem to attempt to connect it to the cartoon. At the very least, it&#039;s somewhat tied to the cartoon, even with many incongruities. -- [[User:Waspscream|Waspscream]] ([[User talk:Waspscream|talk]]) 16:20, 27 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s really not. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 16:41, 27 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;quot;Things are referencing the first really huge piece of popular media most people are familiar with&amp;quot; is not exactly slam-dunk proof of &amp;quot;actually part of the same timeline&amp;quot;. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 21:13, 27 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Admittedly, I didn&#039;t explain my opinions very well, but while Megatron being Galvatron is common, the use of it here seems like an attempt to reconcile the series as somewhat connected to the G1 cartoon, on a similar level to Beast Wars, I guess. There were other examples, that was just the first that came to mind. There isn&#039;t really any true proof for it, so I guess I&#039;ll leave it at that. I guess the entire thing is in a grey area free for personal interpretation of where it could belong. I&#039;m kinda new around here, and I&#039;m not trying to start an argument, just get some clarification about what belongs where. -- [[User:Waspscream|Waspscream]] ([[User talk:Waspscream|talk]]) 21:38, 27 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Power of the Primes also hinted that when Unicron turned Megatron into Galvatron, it was by the power of the Matrix of Chaos, a device that did not exist in the G1 cartoon and thus which was not used by Unicron to turn Megatron into Galvatron in the 1986 movie. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:39, 28 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And that Unicron was destroyed in ancient times by the Requiem Blaster, a thing that very much did not happen in the original cartoon. (And for the record, we don&#039;t treat Beast Wars as a direct cartoon followup either since it blends elements from both Marvel and Sunbow.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:57, 28 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: I am aware of that. -- [[User:Waspscream|Waspscream]] ([[User talk:Waspscream|talk]]) 22:13, 29 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Given the prominence of the G1 cartoon, it is not surprising that so many later stories make reference to it or homage it. But that&#039;s all that this is, referencing and homages. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 08:13, 28 January 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Franchise pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted to float an idea regarding our franchise pages. They&#039;re typically pretty sparse and some which aren&#039;t are just plain paragraphs of text with lists. What do people think about formatting the franchise pages more like the main page? I&#039;ve made an [[User:Abates/Franchise sandbox|example sandbox]]. I used Rescue Bots Academy as an example, since we currently have it linked on the sidebar, so there&#039;s boxes for the cartoon, toyline, major characters, and a featured article (which I think would be best as a random article rather than manually being changed each month). --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:46, 20 March 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I like this a LOT. That said, how would this template handle pages with way more information like Beast Wars? Also, a suggestion made on the Discord was for the featured article to change between premade selections similar to the [[Main Page/disambig|main page disambiguation template]] or [[multilingual packaging]]. Would that be worth exploring? -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:34, 20 March 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That was my thinking as to how the featured article section would work. As for something like Beast Wars, probably everything below, say, &amp;quot;A dramatic change&amp;quot; could stay as is. The idea is to present the main info in a more appealing manner, but there&#039;s nothing to say we couldn&#039;t have more conventional sections further down. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:39, 20 March 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Source namespace ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We currently have a bunch of source documents which have names like &amp;quot;Angry Birds Transformers bios/src&amp;quot;. It&#039;s possible to create a Source namespace so instead they would be at names like &amp;quot;Source:Angry Birds Transformers bios&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Advantages: Everything that&#039;s an official document would be all in one namespace, searchable independently of mainspace articles.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Disadvantages: We wouldn&#039;t be able to have a namespace article with a title starting &amp;quot;Source:&amp;quot;, but I think it&#039;s unlikely to be an issue. We have [[Source]] which is a redirect, but I don&#039;t believe it would be affected.&lt;br /&gt;
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What does everyone think? --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:32, 26 April 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Makes sense to me. There&#039;s a lot of online-only text that&#039;s disappeared from official websites (Legends card game, Robotmasters, Cloud, lots of bios, etc.) Preserving this stuff would help in the future. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 19:38, 26 April 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m in agreement. I think the pros heavily outweigh the cons, and I&#039;m sure we can find a workaround if there&#039;s a story title that starts with &amp;quot;Source&amp;quot; down the line. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:57, 26 April 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If there aren&#039;t any objections then, I&#039;ll get it set up! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:55, 27 April 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Should we add a category for &amp;quot;Toy of the Year&amp;quot; winners of the Hall of fame? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing that we already have categories for &amp;quot;Hall of Fame characters,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Hall of Fame creators,&amp;quot; we probably should make a category for the &amp;quot;Toy(s) of the Year(s).&amp;quot; Just my opinion. [[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 17:03, 1 May 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Minor edits ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just wanted to post a reminder about minor edits, because I&#039;ve seen people mark edits as minor which I don&#039;t think should be considered minor. Minor edits are things like spelling and grammar corrections, formatting corrections, and the like. If you&#039;re adding an entire sentence to an article or a whole new note, it shouldn&#039;t be marked minor. We&#039;ve got a brief section on this here: [[Help:Style guide#Minor and major edits]]. I&#039;m not looking to single anyone out, just post a reminder because it seems to be more common recently. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:09, 3 May 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Japanese ID number&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
I dunno if &amp;quot;uncomfortable&amp;quot; is the right word, but &amp;quot;Japanese ID number&amp;quot; feels off for a variety of reasons, including these toys not being sold ONLY in Japan. I&#039;m increasingly thinking there&#039;s a better option for this info in the toy entries.&lt;br /&gt;
*For entries that cover both the Hasbro and Takara versions, &amp;quot;Takara ID number&amp;quot; works better. (Conversely, those handful of Hasbro toys w/ numbers, &amp;quot;Hasbro ID number&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
*For entries about toys ONLY released in Takara lines, just plain old &amp;quot;ID number&amp;quot; should suffice.&lt;br /&gt;
I realize this is... a buttload of changes across the wiki, and not a top priority or anything, but maybe something folks can pick up here and there while making other edits in the relevant sections. Thoughts? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:50, 5 May 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do Euro-Classics get their own listing or not? ==&lt;br /&gt;
We are currently very inconsistent on whether [[Classics (Europe)]] counts as a G1 toy release as distinct as a Targetmaster or Pretender upgrade.  Look at [[Sunstreaker (G1)/toys]] and [[Prowl (G1)/toys]] and compare to [[Sludge (G1)]] or [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys]].  I think they should all be listed distinctly - that the Sunstreaker approach is right.  Is there any reason why we wouldn&#039;t do this?    --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 20:26, 5 May 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think it&#039;s just that no one has bothered to do it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 21:07, 5 May 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Pretty much. A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT of old stuff on this wiki -particularly the toy entries- needs to be dusted off and looked at and brought up to modern standards/consistency. But that&#039;s a pretty dang involved process and while it seems many of us have more spare time now, it&#039;s still... a kinda draining, droning way to spend it. (I&#039;ve been tackling BW but hoofta, it&#039;s a lot.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 00:01, 6 May 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
;I brought this up years ago, I think I updated some of them, and there wasn&#039;t really any resistance I&#039;m aware of.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 08:04, 30 May 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== TF Car Robots concept materials? ==&lt;br /&gt;
Z226_JUPITER on [https://twitter.com/Z226_JUPITER Twitter] had been tweeting several behind-the-scenes stuff on &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Car Robots]]&#039;&#039;, namely design notes, storyboards, and [https://twitter.com/Z226_JUPITER/status/1258406704334532614 height chart], like how the Almanacs were for Animated. One of the more recent [https://twitter.com/Z226_JUPITER/status/1260473367192317955 tweets] noted a possible 176-page book being released, as well a PDF version. Unfortunately, I don&#039;t know anyone here who&#039;s fluent in Japanese to be able to better ask Z226_JUPITER about it, much less how a copy could be obtained to further supplement the wiki here for non-Japanese readers. One thing is that I don&#039;t know if this is something like a fan-release thing or something OKed by Takara, given how there have been the occasional official doujinshi/fan-supplemented materials green-lit by companies. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 17:42, 14 May 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve crossposted this to the Discord server and one of our Japanese speaking users there (Star-Spangled Sam) volunteered to look into it. Abates and I looked at it a bit too, and found that Z226_Jupiter has a link in his Twitter profile to his works on booth.pm. That site appears to be a place for self publishing fan works and related to Pixiv, a Japanese site which is similar to DeviantArt. The book can be purchased from that site. As for whether it has any approval from TakaraTomy, that&#039;s unclear so far. The description when run through Google Translate reads like the speaker is not affilated with TT (which makes sense given this is a fanwork) but beyond that there&#039;s no indication. We&#039;re waiting to see what Sam comes up with. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 14:34, 3 June 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Much kudos. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 18:52, 5 June 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New bot proposal ==&lt;br /&gt;
After some discussion on the Discord about the need for a new bot and having been thinking about writing one for awhile now, I&#039;ve put together a proposal for how a new bot would work, and what kinds of things it might likely do. This done with the idea that [[User:Deceptitran|Deceptitran]]&#039;s functionality would need to be replaced, given [[User:Derik|Derik]]&#039;s infrequent appearances these days and no else having access to run Deceptitran. There&#039;s also a distinct possibility Deceptitran isn&#039;t functional at the moment as the URL for the Emopanda site Derik was using for hosting things externally (I presume this includes Deceptitran) is abandoned.&lt;br /&gt;
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The way I see it, the bot could run a number of recurring tasks at different intervals, plus any one time &amp;quot;on demand&amp;quot; requests from Wiki editors/staff. Requests would made by editing a subpage of the bot&#039;s user page and filling out a template. This would be much the same as link fix requests worked with Deceptitran. &lt;br /&gt;
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Every 15-30 minutes, the bot would check it&#039;s user page for new &amp;quot;on demand&amp;quot;/&amp;quot;editor generated&amp;quot; requests and process them. &lt;br /&gt;
For these requests, I see two levels of approval they could go through: 1. Request approval and 2. Result approval. The former would be approval of the request before any processing occurs. The latter would be approval of the results of a request before the bot actually makes any changes on the Wiki. &lt;br /&gt;
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I think the first level of approval could be handled by checking Wiki rights/permission of the requesting user. A bot request approval permission could be created and assigned to any trusted non-mod or Admin user. Then only requests from those users, mods and admins would be processed. This would prevent anons and other untrusted accounts from using the bot for nefarious purposes without requiring active moderation of the request submissions by a human.&lt;br /&gt;
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Result approvals would be to prevent the bot from making tons of errant changes. Someone would have to manually go through the list of changes proposed by the bot to see if anything looks wrong. To limit the amount of time we have to spend looking over stuff like this, I think it would make sense to make this a requirement only for requests that would produce a minimum (10? 20?) number of changes. This limit could be gradually increased as we become more confident in the bot&#039;s logic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Verification of these changes would be done by logging into a site running on my hosting service, same as the bot would be. As for who would do it, I am willing to do it and/or we could set it up for any mods/admins that would like to. I&#039;ve also thought about the possibility of having email notifications for when a request needs to be reviewed.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve come up with the following ideas for what kinds of tasks could be done on demand:&lt;br /&gt;
::Link fixing&lt;br /&gt;
::Category tagging/untagging&lt;br /&gt;
::Section reordering by header level&lt;br /&gt;
::Mass page moving&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the recurring on demand processing job, I&#039;ve come up with some other recurring jobs that I think might be beneficial:&lt;br /&gt;
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::At least once a day:&lt;br /&gt;
:::Page deletion&lt;br /&gt;
:::Welcoming users (placing the welcome template on their talkpage)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fix redirects&lt;br /&gt;
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::Daily:&lt;br /&gt;
:::Remove stale dated templates&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m open to any other ideas on what tasks we&#039;d like to have the bot perform. I&#039;d also like to hear some thoughts on which tasks should get added as functionality first.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 14:34, 3 June 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==G2 Go-Bots mold templates==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey y&#039;all, I just knocked out a set of mold templates for the original six G2 Go-Bot toolings, I think I&#039;ve gotten everything consistent as far as how to refer to stuff, but it&#039;s a little idiosyncratic because unlike say, the CW limb guys, you&#039;ve got a case where Motormouth was released in two slightly different but clearly distinct plastic colors (clear vs opaque) and then RID Ironhide/CR Ox had multiple different uses of the tooling in different colorways, all intended to be the same character, which I&#039;m struggling to think of a comparable situation. If someone else wants to go over the nomeclature I used (especially for the various store exclusive redecos) be my guest.&lt;br /&gt;
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If I&#039;m feeling REALLY masochistic, I might try to do a template like this for the Armada Mini-Con toolings, which are probably &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; Seeker level of reused. &#039;&#039;&#039;EDIT TO ADD:&#039;&#039;&#039; If I were to do the UT Mini-Cons, would the mold templates use the names the toys were sold under (e.g. &amp;quot;X-Dimension Sail&amp;quot;) or the names that were retroactively applied by Ask Vector Prime? I&#039;m inclined towards the former and to not even mention the retronyms, because otherwise the box gets really cluttered. I sort of flirted with this with 2003 Universe Camshaft and Hoist, who were just straight reissues of KB W.A.R.S. and Ironhide, but at least they were available on shelves under those names. I didn&#039;t bother with the Prowl and Ironhide that were retroactively &amp;quot;declared&amp;quot; to be Red Alert and Trailbreaker because who cares, lol. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 14:44, 10 July 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Mold templates are indeed geared to names of toys themselves. As you point out, a Japanese-exclusive toy should not use an English retronym. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:37, 10 July 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::As someone who wrote a lot of bios that gave Japanese Mini-Cons &amp;quot;western&amp;quot; names, yeah, use the names the toys were sold under. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:09, 10 July 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scheduled downtime ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Our web host has notified me of some downtime scheduled for August 7 at 3AM UTC, so the site will be unavailable for a period at that time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 02:18, 17 July 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Reminder that this is later this week! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 18:45, 2 August 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scoop bastard template ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since we have changed the caption bastard template to caption happy, do we wish to change the scoop bastard template as well? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:32, 17 July 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done and done. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 10:55, 17 July 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Privacy Policy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noticed we have an unofficial, unadopted privacy party that&#039;s over a decade old. I raised the question in more detail on [[Project talk:Privacy policy|its talk page]], but it seems like something that should at least have a discussion and official outcome of some sort.--[[User:Cosmos1|Waverod ✈️]] ([[User talk:Cosmos1|talk]]) 20:26, 23 July 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== World of Warships article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
When Warships first announced this back in August, I was laughing so hard at the reactions. I&#039;m a bit surprised to not see even a stub article about it.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnGP42M6Dig Announcement trailer] on August 3, 2020.&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/general-news/one-shall-stand/ News announcement] on August 3, 2020 with a one-page comic of Optimus and Bumblebee.&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/sales-and-events/transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye/ September 4, 2020 news update], showing off more assets and another one-page comic of Megatron and Rumble (red).&lt;br /&gt;
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I suppose any Warships players here and at the discord would have a field day. (I don&#039;t play it, I only knew of it through another WW2-theme online game franchise from Japan.) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 05:39, 12 September 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Officially approved YouTube videos ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here are some official videos undocumented on this wiki. Can they be documented? &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Counter656 Hasbro approved stop motion videos&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
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[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-wLsNdu7tFM Masterpiece Bumblebee stop motion] &lt;br /&gt;
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[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m_gEL-qGBoI Movie Masterpiece Ratchet stop motion] &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;HISHE Bumblebee&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZ6W5EQ9cw HISHE Bumblebee video] &lt;br /&gt;
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It is approved by Paramount:&lt;br /&gt;
[https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/paramount-approved-how-bumblebee-should-have-ended-video-featuring-jon-bailey/43183/] &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Pewdiepie video&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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It is sponsored by Earth Wars. The original video is deleted but here is the mirror. The original upload didn&#039;t have subtitles):&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mwRbBD1SIjE Pewdiepie video] &lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Lumaken Earth Wars stop motion&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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In the description, he says that this is a collaboration with the SpaceApe Games (Earth Wars developer):&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xF-F4FlRc3I Lumaken stop motion]&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 18:47, 18 September 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:First two are for sure good, as they were produced for Hasbro (and are even mirrored on the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVnDLnA9mro Transformers YouTube channel]). I&#039;m hesitant at best about HISHE and Lumaken, and absolutely against Pewdiepie&#039;s. Also, if we were to document all &amp;quot;approved&amp;quot; videos, we&#039;d have to include every video where Hasbro ever sent an outlet or YouTuber a product for review, and that would be tantamount to lunacy because of just how many videos that would include. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:18, 18 September 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think in regards to reviewers, they can get individual pages and have their approved videos be listed on those pages corresponding to the reviewer in question.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 19:51, 18 September 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Again documenting every outlet/individual and instance in which they&#039;ve been sponsored or sent something would be far too much of an undertaking, and these people are only tangentially related at best. For example, IGN has been sent press kits for TF games, been granted interviews with devs, and received toys for review, but they don&#039;t get their own article; we just link to the content where appropriate, like in a game&#039;s development section. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:05, 18 September 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Even then, the videos I&#039;ve posted above all have some sort of narrative. That&#039;s far more distinctive than simple reviews and there are less approved narrative-based videos than approved review videos, so it wouldn&#039;t be as hard to document. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I think there&#039;s precedeence to this idea as this wiki documents videos on the official Transformers Youtube channel featuring narrative such as How to Ride your Dinobot but not every other video posted on that channel (most of which aren&#039;t short narrative based videos).--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 20:58, 18 September 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::We can&#039;t go documenting everything that Transformers has sponsored or we&#039;d be here all millennium. If they&#039;re hosted on the official Transformers YouTube account, then that&#039;s something Hasbro produced and worth mentioning. But otherwise, it&#039;s tantamount to trying to list every single instance where a Transformers commercial has aired on TV. There&#039;s been episodes of TV shows sponsored by Transformers too. It&#039;s notable that Transformers has sponsored things in general and the types of things they&#039;ve sponsored. But the individual things are not notable on their own unless Hasbro or a licensee produced it or paid someone else to produce it. HISHE might have an argument as the content creator asserts that Paramount approved it. The other two not on the official channel don&#039;t. Not really sure what SpaceApe&#039;s involvement was with the Lumaken video, but it seems like some of their people helped with filming or effects. That said, the video isn&#039;t corporately sponsored and thus their involvement does not appear to qualify the video as being an official production. Pewdiepie&#039;s has no Hasbro or licensee involvement whatsoever, it&#039;s just a paid ad. They bought airtime essentially. He just happened to theme the video around the advertisement. BIG no on that one. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 22:24, 18 September 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New game &amp;quot;Transformers: Battlegrounds&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For the PlayStation, and [https://collider.com/transformers-battlegrounds-review-release-date/ Collider did a hands-on preview of it], saying that it&#039;s based on Cyberverse. See also the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUun-tEbF5Q trailer], with [https://twitter.com/Outright_Games/status/1308034152202211334 October 23, 2020] release date. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] ([[User talk:Lonegamer78|talk]]) 19:13, 21 September 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Featured Article nominations ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We now have a page for nominating articles to be picked as future Featured Articles: [[Transformers Wiki:Featured Article Nominations]]. While there&#039;s no guarantee that your suggestion will be picked, that&#039;s no reason not to make your voice heard! --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 20:16, 3 October 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== T-Beast ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey all, I was just wondering if the T-Beast Art books were official publications through TakaraTomy? If they are, how come we haven&#039;t made pages for them on this wiki? I would make the pages if I knew much about them, but as I can&#039;t read or speak Japanese, I&#039;d much rather leave that job for someone who knows more about them or who can translate any of whats in the books. I&#039;ve watched Emgo316&#039;s review on the books on youtube and with the overuse of official names (sometimes &#039;&#039;Engrish&#039;&#039; translated) and faction insignias, it would suggest to me that it is a TakaraTomy publication. I know we won&#039;t cover the 3rd party molds based off of the designs from the books because *gasp* that&#039;s blasphemous, but the books are worth mentioning. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 02:05, 27 October 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Those aren&#039;t official liscenced product. We wished they were, but they&#039;re not. [[User:ZacAttack|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack|talk]]) 02:19, 27 October 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Interesting. It&#039;s really strange that they got away with having the insignias and names printed in the book without running into licensing issues. Anyways, thanks for clearing that up! :) [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 02:52, 27 October 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it&#039;s different in Japan. Might be wrong, but I think it&#039;s different. --[[User:ZacAttack|ZacAttack]] ([[User talk:ZacAttack|talk]]) 03:08, 27 October 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Iron Man in commercial ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can I add this commercial appearance to Iron Man page? Both ROTF Megatron and Endgame Iron Man appear in the same commercial.&lt;br /&gt;
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[https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/sky-advert-featuring-bayverse-rotf-megatron.1202802/ commercial].--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 10:34, 1 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Can the ROTF viral sites be documented in a source page?  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Realeffingdeal and Gianteffingrobots.com. Though they will be incomplete since not all of it is saved (especially the second site). I want to archive the surviving images and the posts regardless.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 13:11, 1 November 2020 (EST).&lt;br /&gt;
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:Go for it, why not? I wish I&#039;d been able to archive some of the other tie-in web content that&#039;s now long since gone. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 13:10, 4 December 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Any luck on finding the Holy Grails? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that they are called &amp;quot;Holy Grails&amp;quot; for a reason, but just for curiosity, and because the Holy Grail tab hasn&#039;t been updated for a while (or at least I think it hasn&#039;t), how is it going with the Holy Grails? P.S: I expected it to be hard, and also, what does it mean with &amp;quot;Kiss Players radio play translations&amp;quot;? Is it as in language translation? Supacool9[[User:Supacool9|Supacool9]] ([[User talk:Supacool9|talk]]) 20:09, 19 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Discission about things on the &amp;quot;Holy Grails&amp;quot; and the attempts to find them, can be found [[Talk:Main Page/holy-grails|here]].[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 22:32, 3 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::PS: make sure you sign your username by adding four tildes (&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;) at the end, and it will do it automatically.[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 22:32, 3 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Operation Skyfire ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should a page be made for this cancelled movie? [https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/lets-talk-about-operation-skyfire.1149480/ Operation Skyfire forum thread]--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 14:55, 12 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A moratorium on expanding toy entries? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There&#039;s been some discussion on the Discord recently about entries for newly-released toys getting clogged up with overlong crufty notes, as a result of people rushing in to expand the entries as soon the figure starts trickling out into the wild. I thought it could be worth discussing ways of combating these editing habits – a potential idea I&#039;d had was a moratorium on expanding entries for newly-released toys, similar to what we did to curb poor editing habits in relation to the Facebook Ask Vector Prime? Maybe do it relative to the first US retail sighting or something? Thoughts welcome! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 18:35, 27 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:For starters, I&#039;m gonna suggest immediate reversion of any claims of &amp;quot;widespread&amp;quot; defects or quality/sensitivity of pieces for the first month or two of release, so as to determine if it&#039;s *actually* a widespread issue and not someone adding personal commentary on the state of their own toy. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:00, 27 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with this, I see mentionings of supposed &amp;quot;widespread&amp;quot; issues mentioned on here all the time that don&#039;t have sufficient evidence to back up these claims. [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420&#039;s]] idea of holding off for a month or so would probably be a good solution for this. It gives enough time for people to have a figure in-hand long enough to compare and document issues, allowing for us to have a better idea of whether these are as widespread as claimed or whether this is just one out of several million that has had issues with their personal figure. Especially when some people are buying stolen products long before their expected release and note issues that probably aren&#039;t even on the finished product and could possibly just be a result of a stolen test-shot.  [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:20, 27 November 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m going to agree with the &amp;quot;&amp;quot;&amp;quot;widespread&amp;quot;&amp;quot;&amp;quot; issues notes needing to be held off on, but I&#039;m not sure that waiting to just fill out basic info for an entry is going to actually curb the &amp;quot;overlong crufty&amp;quot; parts. That&#039;s... just a standard writing/editing issue that can affect toy writeups done years after a toy&#039;s release, or character profile entries, or etc. It&#039;s part of why I&#039;ve been trying to &amp;quot;formalize&amp;quot; toy writeups a bit, a kind of &amp;quot;info goes in more or this order, try not to jump around between mode-features, paragraph breaks for X Y Z&amp;quot;. Try and keep things less review-y and rambly. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 20:23, 3 December 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Just gonna throw out [[Fasttrack_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron:_Earthrise]] as a recent example. Open with place in toyline, altmode, altmode/robot features... new paragraph for tertiary mode features to keep the first paragraphs from being too chunky.--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 03:23, 4 December 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Messing around with mold templates ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As seen [[User:Hooper_X/SANDBALLS/Template:G1BumblebeeMold|here for G1 Bee]], [[User:Hooper_X/SANDBALLS/Template:G1CliffjumperMold|here for the rest of the 84 minibots]], [[User:Hooper_X/SANDBALLS/Template:G1CombaticonMolds|here for the Combaticons]] and [[User:Hooper_X/SANDBALLS/Template:G1SeekerMold|here for the G1 Seekers]]. There doesn&#039;t seem to be a consistent way to manage significant retools - the Classics Seeker template makes a lot of distinctions, while the Universe Sunstreaker template treats all the retools as one consistent toy. I&#039;m also trying to figure out how to thread the needle on the weird international variants of the minicars, like the &amp;quot;Huffer in Pipes colors&amp;quot; that supposedly came out in Greece and also came out in a different set of &amp;quot;Pipes colors&amp;quot; in Mexico... I&#039;m gonna leave some time for y&#039;all to comment and cogitate on it before I actually start adding these things all over the place. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 13:13, 4 December 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:The difference between the &#039;&#039;Classics&#039;&#039; Starscream template and the &#039;&#039;Universe&#039;&#039; Sunstreaker template is simple—if there has been a significant change to the body besides just a new head tooling and accessories, then there is a new group to sort by body style. That is how I reorganised the &#039;&#039;Combiner Wars&#039;&#039; network of templates. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:56, 4 December 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::That works for me - as for the different colored international minibots, I&#039;ve made a go of it [[User:Hooper X/SANDBALLS/Template:G1CliffjumperMold|here]] where I&#039;ve broken them down by distributor in alphabetical order, then each colorway in parentheses after. What I&#039;d really love would be little flag emoji to represent the relevant nations - Argentina for Antex, Peru for Lynsa, etc. We could waive these for Hasbro&#039;s worldwide releases I suppose. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 12:57, 7 December 2020 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Changing format of some older pages. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey everyone, it had been discussed earlier today on Discord that the G1 [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] page is in need of a complete revamp. Suggestions had been made to archive the original format of the page to keep the joke alive and available for those who still wish to see and admire it, while starting fresh in our standard character page format. It is nothing against the running joke per se, it mainly boils down to the rhyming starting to take its toll on the information that the page is supposed to present to readers of the wiki. I myself, before joining the wiki and even now, always avoid the page like a plague, as it is hard to navigate and actually obtain any information from, which goes against what the page is intended to do.&lt;br /&gt;
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That doesn&#039;t mean all of the rhyming has to go, it is still welcome in the opening paragraph and image captions, but general consensus on Discord is that it could do to be more informative. I also believe that the long-running joke is starting to take its toll on editors adding any new additions while trying to keep with the rhyming format and quite frankly, I believe that to be another downfall to the article since the wiki is made to be as accessible as possible for anyone to edit and it just adds another layer of complications. I bring this up here rather than on the talk page as it has also been suggested that the same be done to G1 [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]&#039;s page too for the same reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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I advice that you please make these discussions on the individual talk pages: &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Talk:Wheelie (G1)]]&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;[[Talk:Rewind (G1)]]&#039;&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Feel free to bring up any other pages worth making similar changes to &#039;&#039;&#039;here&#039;&#039;&#039; as there is bound to be others that could do to be looked over too.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you and Happy 2021 to all! -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:53, 1 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;&#039;Just a quick follow up after reading back over what was said on Discord:&#039;&#039;&#039; We could possibly keep the pages as is and keep them as the featured articles they are currently, while having a suite with a link to a more informative version, therefore keeping the jokes and also having a variant that actually makes &amp;quot;sense&amp;quot;. Funny still wins as the main page and the other can be for readers to actually learn something more about the characters. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 06:39, 1 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I&#039;m for redoing both into normal prose. Save the jokes for the intro. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:36, 1 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== All the human collaborators should have a page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Human collaborators is the concept of [[Human]]s being allied with the [[Decepticon]]s. It exists since the beginning of the brand, brought to existence in the [[Megatron&#039;s Master Plan]] Duology from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Transformers G1 cartoon]] and appeared for the last time in [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Transformers: Dark of the Moon]], With DOTM 10th year anniversary on the horizon, i&#039;m thinking of creating a page for all them. In fact i&#039;m creating a sandbox about it and i want to know if its a good idea to do that or not. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 14:21, 18 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Our existing &amp;quot;Category:Humans&amp;quot; is in pretty bad shape.  It&#039;s divided into dozens of subcategories already so that the &amp;quot;main&amp;quot; listing is nowhere near a single comprehensive list.  Instead people went and added subgroups like &amp;quot;Classified Humans&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Military Humans&amp;quot; and many many etc.  From an educational resource perspective it would probably be more useful to streamline the category we already have.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:41, 18 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Okay i&#039;ll streamline the &amp;quot;Category:Humans&amp;quot; but how am i supposed to do that? --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 15:42, 18 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Decepticon human collaborators have been around a lot longer than just season 2 of G1. [[Doctor Arkeville]] was actually the first Decepticon ally. Even then, characters collaborating with Decepticons had been around in the years in between G1 and DOTM. the Marvel G1 comics, Dreamwave comics, IDW comics and such, more than likely had a lot of instances where that was a thing too (I&#039;m not too familiar with a lot of those comics). &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; had some of the human villains working with the Decepticons on some occassions too.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As for the human collaborators page, I don&#039;t feel that a separate page needs to be made, there was never a collective group or organization of them, just occassional cases of random people being told what to do while more or less being held at gun point, or on some occassions, given the sweet promise of world domination. I think if anything, Thylacine&#039;s idea of making a subcategory would probably be your best bet, but a better name would be &amp;quot;Decepticon allied humans&amp;quot; or something. As far as I&#039;m aware, there is no page for Autobot allied humans (which there are crap tons of), so there is really no point in making one for the Decepticon allies. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:10, 18 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: It most certainly is not &amp;quot;my idea to make a new subcategory.&amp;quot;  We have too many subcategories already.  Most of them are dumb and are at the expense of having a useful, comprehensive Human category.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:09, 18 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:There really is little to no point to a page for this concept; a category will do. That&#039;d just be opening up for countless list-pages of random Things People In Fiction Sometimes Do, and this wiki is historically not keen on list pages. There&#039;s a lot of stuff characters do/are that don&#039;t have pages just because the concept is too vague, too broad, or too obvious that a page would not actually provide any new information (or comedy potential) on how its use within &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; fiction is different from the immediately obvious. There&#039;s no page for &amp;quot;ninjas&amp;quot; (that just links to the Category), but &amp;quot;Cyber-Ninja Corps&amp;quot;, a very specifically-defined group of ninjas, does get a page.&lt;br /&gt;
:And... look, not to sound mean, but... if you have no idea how a big major overhauling project might be done, maybe you should leave that task to someone else. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 18:40, 18 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Besides &amp;quot;bad guys&amp;quot; like Shawn Berger or Doctor Arkeville, does Spike count when he went nuts as Autobot Spike and used Megatron to fire on the Autobots? Or do [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] count when the Autobots had a truce with the Decepticons against a [[Dark Star|cosmically-powered Starscream]]? Or take [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]]: he joined G.I.Joe and worked with them. Does that make all of G.I. Joe human collaborators? I hope not. If someone has to think this hard about who actually belongs to a category, it will actually clutter up the wiki instead of clarify relationships. Everything that &#039;&#039;could&#039;&#039; be grouped doesn&#039;t necessarily benefit from a page or category. It may be worth noting briefly &#039;&#039;on individual character pages&#039;&#039; about some characters&#039; tendencies to work with Decepticons. [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 19:31, 18 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Okay it seems a page won&#039;t really be necessary, so i won&#039;t do it. But i&#039;m until now trying to know how am i supposed to streamline the &amp;quot;Category:humans&amp;quot;? --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 22:37, 18 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Coming up with the answer to your question is the bulk of the task itself. It&#039;s a lot of work and there&#039;s no immediately obvious and clear approach. If you&#039;d like to try something, use a sandbox and communicate with us here. If you need a lot of guidance, it&#039;s best to leave it to someone else like Sipher said.  [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 22:14, 19 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think i&#039;ll create a category called &amp;quot;Human Collaborators&amp;quot;, but only after the &amp;quot;Category:humans&amp;quot; is streamlined, which is something someone must do here since i don&#039;t know how to do this and by doing so will help this wiki a lot. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 19:56, 21 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I honestly think that is the &#039;&#039;opposite&#039;&#039; of what we need. The first thing to be done after streamlining should not be the addition of more subcategories. The point has been made that there are too many human subcategories already, and I agree. You seem very intent on specifically adding information about Decepticon-allied humans. Keep in mind that this is not an official faction. This is effectively like creating a category about &amp;quot;Humans With Yellow Boots and Blue Pants and Hard Hats&amp;quot;. Yes, that group exists, but unless it&#039;s very funny, we don&#039;t need it. Going forward, I recommend focusing on contributing to what the wiki lacks (say, by adding information on our pages with stubs) instead of searching for differences without distinction. [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 21:04, 21 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Finishing the &amp;quot;Story sections&amp;quot; in the Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (PS2/Wii) and (PSP) pages. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The story of the PSP and PS2/Wii versions of Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen video game must be concluded and i wanted to do this myself, but i&#039;m having difficulties due to my family and i making preparations to move out. So the question is: Can someone insert the synopsis of the remaining chapters of each version of the game here? Because if you can it will help this wiki a lot. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 15:25, 31 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: That is entirely contingent on whether or not any of the regular contributors own the game or a system to play it on. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 21:07, 31 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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What&#039;s the matter? can&#039;t someone see it on Youtube and then write what they&#039;ve saw on the articles? Because that&#039;s how i got the information about the story of the games i insert here. In fact that&#039;s how i got the necessary info to create the [[Quest for Optimus Prime]] and [[MechTech Wars]] online games and to insert the story of [[Transformers: Shadows Rising]]. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk:Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 21:14, 31 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You know, petulantly whining at other people to do work there is absolutely no rush on, on a site done on a volunteer basis, doesn&#039;t really get any of it done faster. Tends to &#039;&#039;dis&#039;&#039;incentivize people to do it, actually. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 01:42, 1 February 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The pages have been stubs for this long, I doubt having them being left a little longer will hurt anyone. They&#039;re bound to still be there once you&#039;re done moving and have more free time on your hands. There&#039;s no rush. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:33, 1 February 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Micro-Sized ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey all, was wondering if we should make a page/archive for the Mini-Con/Micro-Sized profiles from the Collectors&#039; Club website and magazine?&lt;br /&gt;
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They seem to be rather important pieces of fiction for a lot of those Mini-Cons and I feel we should have some form of proper write ups or a proper link to archives of the profiles themselves at the very least. Half the character pages have the profiles summed up in brief opening paragraphs but some people (me included) may want to read some of the online profiles which the Collectors&#039; Club website doesn&#039;t appear to have anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just an idea I thought might be interesting to look into. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:04, 31 January 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, but... is it legal for us to archive that material? I honestly don&#039;t know what the current status is of fiction produced under FP (or 3H, for that matter). Does Hasbro &amp;quot;own&amp;quot; it? Does Brian Savage? Does anybody? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 12:48, 24 February 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fun Publications produced that material under license from Hasbro and TakaraTomy. I assume Hasbro owns it just as they enable their current comic partner IDW to reprint Marvel and Dreamwave material. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 12:57, 24 February 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New signups temporarily suspended ==&lt;br /&gt;
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New signups have been temporarily suspended due to excessive vandalism. Apologies for the inconvenience. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 04:04, 28 February 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:And now they should be back on. Thank you for your patience. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:46, 7 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reducing negative &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; episode notes. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alrighty, since the wiki has been taking a pretty neutral approach to things over recent years and we had already decided on reducing excessive sarcasm and negativity to the &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; cartoon page, I feel the episode pages should probably follow suit.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m just started my annual rewatch of the show and I&#039;m going to add, subtract and alter things like I did in the &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; episode pages after each watch. I&#039;m already making a start on removing pieces of sarcasm listed as &amp;quot;trivia&amp;quot; that &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; doesn&#039;t need to be highlighted and is only there for the sake of bashing the show.&lt;br /&gt;
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That being said, errors, plotholes, continuity issues etc. are fine, but the &amp;quot;pain count&amp;quot; sections probably should either be removed or be relabelled as &amp;quot;stock phrase count&amp;quot; or something along those lines. I&#039;m personally still alright with the caption jokes and quote jokes, but the excessive &amp;quot;This character sucks because the show sucks.&amp;quot; is definitely a no go.&lt;br /&gt;
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After a disscussion on Discord, it had also been suggested that we list common stock phrases from the Unicron Trilogy on a separate page much like we do for [[Furmanism]]s. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 03:25, 2 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Before anyone goes to the trouble of creating an entire &amp;quot;Energonisms&amp;quot; page, it is worth examining whether the series is well-known or well-liked enough for that to be worthwhile.  Furman wrote hundreds of comics &amp;amp; scripts across multiple series and about 25 years; his repeat phrases are more noticeable and important.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 07:36, 2 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I still disagree with the concept of &amp;quot;Furmanisms&amp;quot;. They&#039;re just pulpy phrasing. It&#039;s hardly unique to him. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:14, 2 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ll be honest, the Furmanisms page is filled with rather common oldschool comicbook phrases that aren&#039;t &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; unique to him or &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; for that matter. You can almost guarantee that those phrases have been used in even older comics from the 60s, like &#039;&#039;X-Men&#039;&#039; for example. Hell, they&#039;ve possibly been used in material even older than that. I generally stay clear of anything that makes references to that page, because it is full of blurred lines. Perhaps this should also be a topic for discussion. In terms of Energonisms, I personally don&#039;t agree with it either, but I thought I better bring it up for those who aren&#039;t on Discord.&lt;br /&gt;
:::My main concern right now is whether we should remove the &amp;quot;pain count&amp;quot; sections from the episode pages. As I&#039;ve been binging the show and updating episode info, I&#039;ve been working around them, but they still hold a heavy tone of negativity while everything else around them has been altered to the neutral tone. I&#039;ve tried to think of a better title to use in its place, but the further through the episode pages I go, the more excessively negative it seems to get. Yes there are a &#039;&#039;lot&#039;&#039; of stock phrases used, but if people start to include other ones that haven&#039;t already been listed—and there are quite a few—pretty soon we&#039;re gonna end up with entire dub scripts for the episodes listed lol. As for stock footage counts, it&#039;s common in practically every Japanese &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; series (From BWII onwards at the very least), so listing them is just another example of adding things to bash the show. Our [[Transformers Wiki:Captions#Captions and jokes we&#039;re sick of|captions/jokes policies]] also state that &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; jokes are pretty much frowned upon by today&#039;s wiki standards.&lt;br /&gt;
:::As I am writing this post, it has also occured to me that &#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s episode pages have pain counts that follow the same outline too (listing stock phrases and stock footage), so perhaps we should look into removing those for the same reasons. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 06:11, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I feel it should be pointed out that many of the stock phrases from Energon (&amp;quot;Uh...&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Huh?&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Let&#039;s do it!&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Wait up!&amp;quot; etc.) were first used by the same dubbing team back in Armada. If any new page is going to be created for those phrases, it&#039;s only fair that those from Armada (and probably from Cybertron too) be included since those phrases are not exclusive to Energon even if it&#039;s in that show that they&#039;re the worst offender. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 09:58, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I agree with removing the pain counts and overall negativity from the UT-related pages, while I disagree with creating the &amp;quot;Energonisms&amp;quot; page because that would neuter our efforts to remove said negativity. I also never cared for Furmanisms so I don&#039;t even see a reason for that page to still exist tbh. [[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 13:11, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I don&#039;t think there&#039;s a need for Energonisms, but I think Furmanisms need to stay based solely on the fact that they&#039;re a known factor and both Furman and other creators have leaned into their existence in self-referential and parodical ways, enough that it makes sense to have a page explaining them. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:34, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::It&#039;s funny you say that, Fritz. &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; was the first place to use the stock phrases, yet the episode pages were absent of any pain counts or any real negativity in general. As for &#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039;, listing the pain counts on those pages seems to hold the same weight as the negativity I pruned down on the main &#039;&#039;Armada&#039;&#039; page a couple of weeks ago. They seem to be an outdated case of critisms that were made when the show first came out. In my experience, &#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039;, while still not perfect, still remains the pretty widely enjoyed out of the three shows among the Facebook groups and stuff I&#039;ve been in.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::At the end of the day, I don&#039;t feel it&#039;s really the wiki&#039;s place to tell people how to feel towards something. It&#039;s one thing to mention issues and critisms, but when you&#039;re pushing personal opinions onto the reader, making them steer clear of the show entirely instead of letting them form their own opinions, it doesn&#039;t really help keep the history of the brand we&#039;re supposed to be documenting alive. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 15:28, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The keyword there is &amp;quot;outdated.&amp;quot;  Energon is from 2003 and the &amp;quot;pain count&amp;quot; stuff was probably all written in 2007 or so.  In 2021 no one is creating canon with ironic joking references to a hypothetical Energonism, and even if they did, the whole source of complaint is that the dialogue is so interchangeable and empty that if someone were to say it in a future series it would probably just be seen as unrelated new bad dialogue.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:44, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::So I guess we&#039;re all pretty much on the same page here then. From the response I got on Discord a few days ago and the repsonse here, it seems pretty clear that the &amp;quot;Pain counts&amp;quot; should go. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 16:11, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Totally agree with you there, Fanofcoolstuff27. I watched &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039; for the first time just last year and actually enjoyed the latter a lot. At the time I felt that the pain counts were harming my own enjoyment of reading the wiki after watching each episode and I even consider removing them by myself. So I&#039;m glad this is finally up for debate and other people are agreeing on getting rid of them. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 16:27, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I think this kind of went off on a big digression about &amp;quot;Energonisms&amp;quot; and personal liking of the series, but I think this is enough consensus to reduce the negativity of the Energon articles. (The episodes could use better summaries as well.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:35, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:The pain counts can go, but I&#039;m 100% against removing the overal tone of negativity. Like it or not, Energon is a dull show with an objectively mediocre dub, and consistently remains the most disliked of any televised Transformers cartoon. To try and soften that in the Energon articles almost feels like a disservice to 20 years of near-universal fan rejection. (And the reason we say not to make Energon jokes on the caption page was because they were getting excessive across the whole wiki. That said, while other pages shouldn&#039;t be saddled with such jokes, there&#039;s no reason to sugarcoat things on the Energon articles themselves.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 16:41, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed, and definitely on that last point. Energon is garbage in any language, and I feel we do a disservice to act like it&#039;s not a rushed, cheap, ugly job by the lowest bidder that runs out of plot halfway through its episode count and has to start over even BEFORE you take into account the first-draft English dub. And yes, the captions page remark about it and many other objects of derision is mostly about the &#039;&#039;unoriginality&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;over-use&#039;&#039; of adding &#039;&#039;new&#039;&#039; joke captions about it, not &amp;quot;it&#039;s wrong&amp;quot;. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:35, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::See, my issue here isn&#039;t neccessarily the negativity itself, more the overuse of it. I&#039;ve already taken it upon myself to remove silly pieces of &amp;quot;trivia&amp;quot; that aren&#039;t trivia at all and are more just an attempt to bash a bad show. You can mention all of it&#039;s flaws and whatever, there is no problem with that. It&#039;s the constant nitpickiness that is added, when just about &#039;&#039;every&#039;&#039; Transformers show has more or less the &#039;&#039;exact&#039;&#039; same issues. The line between openly pointing out issues in one show and turning a blind eye to those same issues in other shows is &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; blurred.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Given our recent response on Discord towards the removal of &amp;quot;Pain counts&amp;quot; from the Energon episode pages, perhaps we could at least settle with a mid-ground compromise. My proposal: The removal of stock footage from the counts. It&#039;s not exclusive to Energon at all, so listing them as a &#039;&#039;bad&#039;&#039; thing builds a pretty poor case. Yeah, there is a &#039;&#039;lot&#039;&#039; of stock footage use, but the show is to sell Transformers toys, so highlighting the brand&#039;s main attraction is hardly a crime. BWII, BWN, RID/Car Robots, Robot Masters, Armada/Legends of the Microns, Energon/Super Link, Cybertron/Galaxy Force, Animated, Go!, RID 2015 and I wanna say Cyberverse (?) are all guilty of using stock footage. Only about three of them are English-speaking original shows, while the rest of them are Japanese shows. It&#039;s practically been a tradition to include stock footage transformations and combinations at this point. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:31, 5 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Voice actor categorization ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I really don&#039;t like the idea of putting voice actors into company categories based on shows or games they&#039;ve appeared in (see [[:Category:Activision]] or [[:Category:DreamWorks]] for example). This seems a little disingenuous, considering that none of these are employees of these companies, but rather freelance. Furthermore, this doesn&#039;t include all the different shows&#039; production companies, but rather more like picking and choosing at random. If you were to categorize them at all, I would either do so based on the studio the series was recorded at (such as Voicebox or Studiopolis) or make new &amp;quot;(show) voice cast&amp;quot; categories. (But honestly, my first choice would be to not do so at all.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:17, 6 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:How about we create nested categories such as &amp;quot;Category:Activision freelancers&amp;quot;? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 01:34, 22 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;Category:Activision voice actors&amp;quot;? Maybe something similar with other videogames or tv series&#039;/movies? &amp;quot;Category:____ voice actors&amp;quot;. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 02:39, 22 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Energon Terrorcons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m having issues with the way we have the &#039;&#039;Energon&#039;&#039; Terrorcon pages currently set up. The pages have a lot of misinformation being spread within them and between them and I&#039;m not entirely sure how we should handle it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The show presents three different colour variants/breeds/races of flying Terrorcon: Divebomb, a &amp;quot;Stealth Divebomb&amp;quot; (which is the Command Ravage colour palette placed on Divebomb), and the Shadowhawk Cosmo Type/Blackout colour scheme. I&#039;ve just gone and removed the stealth colour scheme write ups from Blackout&#039;s page as they are clearly not the same thing and it would fall under potential citogenesis.&lt;br /&gt;
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My proposal for this issue would be to move &amp;quot;Blackout (Terrorcon)&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Shadowhawk Cosmo Type&amp;quot; and just make mention of the Energon dubs&#039; cock up with the names as a note or that an individual Terrorcon named &amp;quot;Blackout&amp;quot; is also among them. Much like &amp;quot;Command Ravage&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Shadowhawk Cosmo Type&amp;quot; is also an official name and it&#039;s my understanding that if Hasbro names aren&#039;t available, we generally opt for the Takara names instead (e.g. [[Mirror]]), and because &amp;quot;Blackout&amp;quot; is referred to as an individual rather than a race/breed, it would be hard to use that as an offical English-language designation. I also don&#039;t feel that there would be enough to warrant an individual Shadowhawk Cosmo Type page and a Blackout page, as they&#039;d contain most of the same information.&lt;br /&gt;
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Secondly, I&#039;m wondering if the stealth decoed Divebombs warrant their own page under a nickname title? e.g. [[Watchdog (G1)]]. They are clearly a different breed to the two aforementioned races and with the Command Ravages being present alongside them, it only seems fair to mark them on a separate page too. If others agree, I was thinking maybe &amp;quot;Stealth Divebomb&amp;quot; or something, as the title—unless &#039;&#039;Super Link&#039;&#039; has a better term used in the episode?&lt;br /&gt;
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Thirdly, and the least important of noting on this list of issues: The Planet Q natives featured in the flashback (before the planet was destroyed) use both the Shadowhawk Cosmo Type model and a recoloured version of the Battle Ravage model in the same colours. Do these Battle Ravage redecos warrant a page or is a note on the respective mold pages enough for them?&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank Primus that the Insecticons and Cruellocks don&#039;t suffer from this issue of multiple breeds/repaints presented on-screen.&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me know what you think. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:49, 10 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I would make a &amp;quot;Shadowhawk Cosmo Type&amp;quot; article for that color scheme in general, but keep the Blackout article for that specific individual. All of the other weird color schemes like &amp;quot;Shadowhawk Desert Type&amp;quot; could just go on the regular article, with notes pointing out their existence. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:35, 10 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sounds like a plan. I&#039;ll get a sandbox started for the Cosmo Type Terrorcons. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 15:44, 10 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Excessively long toy pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Let&#039;s face it. A few pages such as &amp;quot;[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Megatron (G1)/toys]]&amp;quot; have become so long that they can slow down a device just to be loaded. Will we allow indefinite expansion such that page scrolling time will balloon further? We need to do some kind of split that will set up a second page for many years to come. Some months back, there was a discussion on the Discord server suggesting the start of &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; in 2010 as a useful dividing boundary. Thoughts? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:38, 13 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree with the split from &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 17:36, 13 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::If no one is against this split, I might make a start on it now because I was editing the G1 Prime page before and I was worried it was going to make Chrome crash with how long it was taking just to load the previews for my edits. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 07:22, 14 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Regarding Megatron, I propose splitting out all non-transforming gun mode accessories that were available with other figures into their own page. There are a &#039;&#039;lot&#039;&#039; of those, and they don&#039;t need to clutter up a page along with the transforming figures.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 07:59, 30 May 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Template:quote and Template:bigquote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do we have both of these? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:39, 16 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:the big one looks much better and less confusing. i suggest getting rid of the normal one. --[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 07:48, 16 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:While I find the big one hideously obnoxious and would suggest getting rid of it.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 11:32, 16 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:sorry, it turns out that for some reason, the normal quotes were not showing up properly on my computer. but now they are. now the big quotes do seem kinda unnecessary.  --[[User:GobotsFanForever|GobotsFanForever]] ([[User talk:GobotsFanForever|talk]]) 21:11, 16 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Merge or not to merge the ROTF toyline and N.E.S.T. Global Alliance pages. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should merge the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|ROTF toyline]] and the N.E.S.T. Global Alliance pages, since they&#039;re both from the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]] movie, along with the fact that some toys from that [[subline imprint]] are in the ROTF page. Besides, the reason why users here want their pages to be merged is the same from the [[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]] and The Unicron Battles, which by the time of this talk, they&#039;re already merged. --[[User:Cybertron Forever|Cybertron Forever]] ([[User talk: Cybertron Forever|talk]]) 16:52 18 March 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m down with that. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 02:40, 22 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==All those Takara BW-era-ish named weapon pages==&lt;br /&gt;
So this caught my eye... we have a buncha pages for the various named weapons from the BW2/Neo-era toys, and... do we need them at all? Do these pages actually contain enough unique information to justify them? I mean, we got individual pages for Archadis&#039;s &amp;quot;[[Wing Gundread]]s&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;[[Wing Bomb]]s&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Founder Shot]]&amp;quot;, and not a one of them has anything that the actual Archadis page doesn&#039;t cover. Seems like most of these don&#039;t have any special effects like the &amp;quot;torque rifle&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;electro-scrambler&amp;quot; and such; it makes more sense to have those pages since the special effects are all right there without having to sift through non-weapon info, which feels like a good resource for writing purposes to see how these special weapons were used. But if they&#039;re all just normal old blasters and swords and whatnot, the individual pages are basically just severely chainsawed versions of the character pages. Feels kind of pointless and wasteful of the reader&#039;s time to point them at these pages. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:27, 30 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:After going through it all, I&#039;m starting to think this is a valid point. Half of these weapons wouldn&#039;t even have enough information to fill a page to be quite honest—and that&#039;s after filling the fiction stubs too. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 08:24, 31 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==New Molds are Not News==&lt;br /&gt;
It quickly gets repetitive for toy entries to say such-and-such is a new mold.  I think we should have &amp;quot;new mold&amp;quot; be the default, unsaid expectation, instead pointing out when toys are retools / redecos.  &amp;quot;Actually a new mold&amp;quot; should be saved for occasions when something looks or is widely perceived to be a remold but actually isn&#039;t (i.e. Smokejumper / Energon Starscream).  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 16:03, 7 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Agreed.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 16:58, 7 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 17:54, 7 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Impending upgrade ==&lt;br /&gt;
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My intention is to attempt an upgrade of the wiki&#039;s core software tomorrow. It is not going to be a large jump in versions, so I don&#039;t anticipate it will break anything, but you never know. I&#039;ll post again here closer to the time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 05:17, 23 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:In, let&#039;s say, around about three hours. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:16, 24 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ten minute warning! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 02:49, 24 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
All done. Please go about your business. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 03:20, 24 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Change to combiner team member lists? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Inspired by some comments Chris was pointing out from his new Aerialbot video, I was thinking about how we could better contextualise the various extra/alternate members most combiner teams have wound up with over the years, rather than simply putting them all in a plain list that can, for instance, wrongfully give the impression that Balloon is a noteworthy Aerialbot and not a literal joke. Put together a sandbox to show what I was thinking: [[User:Jalaguy/Sandbox/Aerialbot]] - thoughts? I think this is one of those occasions - like Unicron&#039;s history and stuff - where going out-of-universe for a bit is the best way of communicating important context to the reader. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 12:15, 24 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request and code review for adding JS-based tabbed tables == &lt;br /&gt;
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A few of us were inspired by the tabbed tables on other wikis. For example, [https://www.khwiki.com/Xehanort the Kingdom Hearts wiki], a main character has tables that contain &amp;quot;Profile&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Journal&amp;quot; tabs. This request is strictly about tabs, not general infoboxes. I pulled the relevant JS and CSS and created a [[Template:Tab]], and added the custom JS and CSS to my user page, and things seem fine. The tabifier only relies on jQuery, so we don&#039;t need to add anything extra. I have videos of the behavior on our Discord too.&lt;br /&gt;
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Would it be possible for an admin (abates?) to review the proposed additions, and if approved, merge them into the page load?&lt;br /&gt;
:JS: https://github.com/tf-wiki-discord/wiki-utils/blob/main/tabber.js&lt;br /&gt;
:CSS: https://github.com/tf-wiki-discord/wiki-utils/blob/main/tabber.css&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for reviewing/considering! [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 13:22, 29 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What&#039;s the intention to use tabs for? My main reservation would be with user experience. E.G. putting stuff behind a tab hides it from a browser search, so if a user googles a term and ends up on a page where the mention of that term is hidden behind a tab, they might not be able to find it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:57, 29 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::One intended use-case would be supplementary. For most Transformers, I can imagine a &amp;quot;tabbed mainpic&amp;quot;, one tab being bot mode and the other being the alt mode. I&#039;m thinking particularly about a &#039;&#039;[[The Transformers Universe|Transformers Universe]]&#039;&#039; or Dreamwave&#039;s &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets the Eye]]&#039;&#039;, where bot mode and alt mode are viewable together as a single visual unit. And this is extendable to triple- or multi-changers, or can be ignored for Action Masters. This use is not restricted to mainpic use either. I don&#039;t think images of alt modes being hidden behind a tab is worse than things are now. [[User:Saix|Saix]] and [[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] may want to weigh in here. [[User:Prime Radiant|Prime Radiant]] ([[User talk:Prime Radiant|talk]]) 19:42, 29 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This is essentially a prelude to a more specific policy proposal once we get the machinery up and running and start working with it but I believe this concept of a &amp;quot;tabbed image&amp;quot; to display all modes of a character model, toy, etc without compromising readability to be perhaps the most potent utility of this technology. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 20:25, 29 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I can see this possibly being useful for toys that end up with multiple modes used within fiction like any of the &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Generations Selects&#039;&#039; characters with canonized &amp;quot;fan-modes&amp;quot; that get a little crazy to document in a single image or maybe having the Hasbro and Takara variants in a tabbed system?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The only thing I find that could potentially go wrong using a tab system at the top of an article for robot and alt modes, is the fact that G1 characters (as an example)—especially in the JG1 fiction—have been through multiple bodies with multiple vehicle modes. Even G1 Prime hasn&#039;t been the same exact flat-nosed cab for the 35+ years between American continuities. So this still kinda falls under the whole &amp;quot;prioritizing one thing over the rest&amp;quot; argument that the info box discussion created on Discord. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 20:42, 29 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I don&#039;t want to get too ahead of ourselves on the specifics of implementation at this juncture but I will say we&#039;ve gone round on the philosophy of potential &amp;quot;alt mode mainpics&amp;quot; a bit on the Discord and I believe it would be important to emphasize consistency with the character model selected for the bot mode mainpic as opposed to getting lost in the weeds of a character&#039;s &amp;quot;one true alt mode&amp;quot; or what have you. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 21:29, 29 April 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New bot account on site ==&lt;br /&gt;
I wanted to give a heads up that we have a new bot account on the site: [[User:FuncGammaBot]]. This account is owned by the developer of the WikiClientLibrary library that [[User:Teletraan-X]] uses for logging in to the site. The developer asked to use us for testing his code against MediaWiki 1.19 because Fandom no longer has a 1.19 site for them to test against. I consulted with abates and since he had no issues with the developer using us for unit tests, I let them know it was okay. Unit tests are automated code tests that are run to make sure that: A. a new code fix works and B. that said new code fix doesn&#039;t break something else. This testing will allow the library to continue workinga and thus Teletraan-X to continue working while on TFWiki is on version 1.19. The account will only be interacting with it&#039;s own sandbox and not making any edits to actual content pages or the like. I wanted to let everyone know so they aren&#039;t wondering what this weird account is doing only editing sandbox pages.  --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] ([[User talk:Tigerpaw28|talk]]) 15:46, 17 May 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Establishing gallery pages for characters ==&lt;br /&gt;
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So it seems we (and creators) have run into problems with poor references (especially regarding alternate modes) and there&#039;s the simple fact that there&#039;s a huge lack of &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; central resource for official &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; renders and art (aka assets)—especially for older media like &#039;&#039;Beast Machines&#039;&#039;. In that regard, I&#039;m proposing we create gallery pages for at least characters with multiple bodies and incarnations and also serve as a repository for art. I&#039;ve created [[User:Saix/Megatron (BW)/gallery|an example for Beast Megatron]] that I hope will illustrate what I imagine those galleries to look like. Any thoughts or concerns about this? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:33, 27 May 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Technically correct but needlessly vague section headers, unhelpful &amp;quot;fiction first&amp;quot; format ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I stumbled across this on the [[Cyclonus&#039;s Armada]] page. For reasons unknown to me, the section that covers how Marvel&#039;s comic adaptation of the 1986 animated movie handled Cyclonus and &amp;quot;his Armada&amp;quot; is placed under the not-so-obvious header &amp;quot;Marvel future timelines&amp;quot;, with a storylink leading to &amp;quot;Judgment Day!&amp;quot;, which I have to click in order to find out that it&#039;s actually not a UK future timeline story, but the comic adaptation of the movie. This is not helpful. Especially when there&#039;s currently still a deeplink further down in the &amp;quot;Origins&amp;quot; section that links to a now-defunct &amp;quot;Marvel The Transformers: The Movie comic adaptation&amp;quot; section.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I feel like the &amp;quot;Cyclonus&#039;s Armada&amp;quot; section is suffering from the &amp;quot;fiction first, real life background information later&amp;quot; format. In cases where the subject of a page is a major conundrum that&#039;s more notable for the mystery surrounding it than for its fictional portrayal itself, I propose we should ingore the standard and put the background information above the fiction sections in order to make those pages more accessible to casual readers I&#039;m not sure yet if that should be applied to [[Swerve (Chevy)]] as well.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 08:30, 30 May 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Krunix (G1)]] might also benefit from an &amp;quot;explanation first&amp;quot; format. Not quite sure yet regarding [[Mister Johnson]].--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 08:53, 30 May 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Repurpose notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to add a bit to the repurposed toys note to identify where this happened? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:09, 9 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That is a logical course of action. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 04:26, 18 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Beast Era parentheticals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As already discussed here on [[Talk:Silverbolt (G1)#Earth Wars BW Silverbolt IS NOT G1 SILVERBOLT|jetliner Silverbolt&#039;s talk page]], &#039;&#039;Earth Wars&#039;&#039; has clarified the need to reestablish the original Magnaboss toy trio as their own individuals with separate pages. For some consistency, what is our take on how the parentheticals will work out when Fuzors and Transmetals have not appeared outside the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; franchise? &lt;br /&gt;
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Is this preferable?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Silverbolt (G1), Silverbolt (BW eagle), Silverbolt (BW Fuzor), Prowl (G1), Prowl (BW lion), Prowl (BW Transmetal 2)&lt;br /&gt;
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Or is this preferable?&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Silverbolt (G1), Silverbolt (BW eagle), Silverbolt (Fuzor), Prowl (G1), Prowl (BW lion), Prowl (Transmetal 2)&lt;br /&gt;
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Should the Fuzor and owl still have &amp;quot;BW&amp;quot;? I point out that such labelling does serve as a handy signal for readers as to which franchise a wiki URL belongs. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:20, 12 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;(BW Transmetal 2)&amp;quot; is definitely too long. In Owl Prowl&#039;s case, he either ought to stay at &amp;quot;Prowl II&amp;quot; (due to the complications of his past, or in consistency with Transmetal 2 Dinobot similarly being at &amp;quot;Dinobot II&amp;quot;), or be moved to either &amp;quot;Prowl (BW owl)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Prowl (BW TM2)&amp;quot;, or just &amp;quot;Prowl (TM2)&amp;quot;. Of those choices, I&#039;m leaning towards either &amp;quot;Prowl (BW owl)&amp;quot; since it would be consistent with &amp;quot;Prowl (BW lion), or &amp;quot;Prowl (TM2)&amp;quot; since Transmetals 2 are still just a BW-only thing. The latter would also enable the lion to be as &amp;quot;Prowl (BW)&amp;quot;, unless that&#039;s too misleading since he isn&#039;t the only BW Prowl, in which case &amp;quot;(BW lion)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;(BW owl)&amp;quot; would be the most concise.&lt;br /&gt;
:As for the Silverbolts, I&#039;ve given my piece about them, but for a recap, I&#039;m for &amp;quot;Silverbolt (BW eagle)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Silverbolt (BW Fuzor)&amp;quot;, with &amp;quot;Silverbolt (BW)&amp;quot; redirected to the latter. While the Fuzor is unquestionably the more prominent of the two, the eagle came first and was, for a whole year, the only BW Silverbolt in existence at the time. He has every right to the &amp;quot;(BW)&amp;quot; tag just as much as the Fuzor does. Keeping &amp;quot;(BW)&amp;quot; in the title of both makes it immediately clear that both are BW-original characters without ever having to read the article.&lt;br /&gt;
:Frankly, I am not a fan of &amp;quot;(Magnaboss)&amp;quot; as a tag since, to the uninformed, &amp;quot;Silverbolt (Magnaboss)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Prowl (Magnaboss)&amp;quot; make it look like we&#039;re saying that this Silverbolt and this Prowl are each &amp;quot;a Magnaboss&amp;quot;, which is misleading for anyone who doesn&#039;t know who or what Magnaboss is. Sure, it only takes a second to read their articles, but &amp;quot;(BW eagle)&amp;quot; and (BW lion) are more direct and to the point, instantly getting the message across that they both originated from BW.&lt;br /&gt;
:And if the eagle gets to keep &amp;quot;BW&amp;quot; in its tag, then certainly the Fuzor should as well since, as mentioned, he is the more prominent of the two BW Silverbolts and shouldn&#039;t be forced to lose his &amp;quot;BW&amp;quot; to the eagle, even if the eagle has just as much right to it. Ergo, they both can share. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:51, 13 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I vote for the first option except for Prowl the Owl, who I think works best as Prowl (BW Owl). &lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m personally thinking &amp;quot;Prowl (BW)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Prowl (TM2)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Silverbolt (eagle)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Silverbolt (Fuzor)&amp;quot;. To me it just needlessly over complicates things by having &amp;quot;(BW eagle)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;(BW Fuzor)&amp;quot; because we don&#039;t go &amp;quot;[[Swerve (Universe)|Swerve (Universe -insert whatever specifics here-)]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Swerve (Chevy)|Swerve (Universe Chevy)]]&amp;quot;, we try to keep the character page titles as short and sweet as possible. With that, I&#039;d also propose that we move &amp;quot;Dinobot II&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Dinobot (TM2)&amp;quot; because I don&#039;t recall him ever being referred to by that name in the cartoon and it certainly wasn&#039;t the name given to the toy. As far as I can tell that was just something the sourcebook added to differentiate between multiple characters with the same name (e.g. Magnaboss II and Silverbolt II). We&#039;ve also tried to move away from those sourcebook naming conventions due to a lot of them being incorrect or misleading in the wider scheme of things, especially for the Japanese characters. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 01:48, 13 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::TM2 Dinobot was referred to as &amp;quot;Dinobot 2&amp;quot; in the Dreamwave Summer Special and as &amp;quot;Dinobot II&amp;quot; in Beast Wars Sourcebook.  It&#039;s not a thing we made up.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 08:14, 18 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I continue to be opposed to inventing &amp;quot;compound tags&amp;quot; that aren&#039;t canonical terms.  &amp;quot;Magnaboss&amp;quot; is a canonical term, just as much as &amp;quot;Stunticon,&amp;quot; and I don&#039;t think it&#039;s so confusing to potential readers seeing it that they wouldn&#039;t think to click the link and understand just how it was possible.  My votes:  Silverbolt (G1), Silverbolt (Magnaboss), Prowl (Magnaboss), Prowl (TM2), Silverbolt (Fuzor).  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:51, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::As I had just stated on [[Talk:Silver Bolt]] and [[Talk:Prowl (Magnaboss)]], I&#039;m actually in favour of using the &amp;quot;(Magnaboss)&amp;quot; parentheticals for all three of the Magnaboss components, after seeing how it looks as an actual page title. It unifies them and is simple and the most effective imo. I am still 100% against using the animal alt-modes in the titles as it just looks unprofessional and made up, as Thylacine had more or less pointed out. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:38, 18 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If we &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; have to, we could always make it &amp;quot;(BW Magnaboss)&amp;quot; as a happy medium. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:42, 18 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::That&#039;s redundant. &amp;quot;Magnaboss&amp;quot; is simple and straight to the point. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 10:09, 18 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rethinking Shattered Glass as a franchise/continuity family ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Between the “Shards” mini-series, the new Generations Selects toys, and an increasing amount of high end collector statues, it seems like the concept of a &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; mirror universe isn’t going away any time soon.  All mirrorverse fiction since the original comic has latched onto the title “Shattered Glass”, even when that name hasn’t been applied to that particular fiction, creating “ghost” franchises like “Shattered Glass &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039;” and “Shattered Glass &#039;&#039;Movie&#039;&#039;”.  Given that these have no bearing on actual franchises – there’s no “real” “Shattered Glass &#039;&#039;Cybertron&#039;&#039;”, for example – I’m proposing that we treat “Shattered Glass” as less of a series of franchises and more as one big continuity family.&lt;br /&gt;
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b) big concepts that span numerous franchises go on one article, e.g. [[Autobot]], [[Decepticon]], [[Cybertron (planet)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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c) sometimes two characters from different continuity families share a page when they are either straight up the same guy ([[Side Burn (RID)]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)]]), or when their appearance is so negligible that it’s barely worth splitting them ([[Buckshot]], [[Reachout (TF 2010)]])&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the above, I propose that all of “Shattered Glass” be treated as one continuity family, with subheadings for G1 (the club fiction, “Expectations”, “Recordicons”, SD SG, “Shards”), &#039;&#039;Animated&#039;&#039; (lithographs, bios), &#039;&#039;Movie&#039;&#039; (&#039;&#039;Forged to Fight&#039;&#039;, high-end statues/merchandise), and whatever other mirror universes are concerned.  Character articles should be moved to (SG) namespaces and merged where appropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
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I’ve whipped up a rough concept for Optimus Prime in my [[User:TheLastGherkin/Sandbox:Shat|sandbox]].  Let me know what you think of this idea below or on the Discord server. [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 07:29, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: Absolutely against this. It might be fine for Prime, but there is nothing linking SG Goldbug with SG Animated Bumblebee, for example. We can stand having a few smaller articles, not everything should be merged. We aren&#039;t Wikipedia, and I don&#039;t want to see this implemented. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:54, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I kinda like this idea, &#039;&#039;but&#039;&#039; I can also see where this could get &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; complicated, &#039;&#039;very&#039;&#039; fast, it&#039;s definitely not a &amp;quot;one size fits all&amp;quot; type of solution, as Escargon has stated. If nothing else, I think a continuity family page for SG (if we don&#039;t already have one) would be a good idea to have the concept laid out in the one place, since it has been used all across the franchise, but combining character articles and such is definitely looking like a possible issue. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 10:07, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Bumblebee would be the exception.  An ideal SG Bumblebee article would start with a G1 section to the effect of &amp;quot;Bumblebee was small and looked like Cliffjumper; for more information see Goldbug (SG)&amp;quot; followed by the two relatively similar, quiet-spoken backstabber versions from Animated and Forged to Fight. [[User:TheLastGherkin|TheLastGherkin]] ([[User talk:TheLastGherkin|talk]]) 10:16, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m really not sure about that. What&#039;s the point of folding them together if you&#039;re going to split one of the most prominent ones out? It&#039;s all or nothing, in my opinion. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 10:19, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Even more than that, there&#039;s characters like Rhinox; there&#039;s nothing linking the gag character with the morally ambiguous TransTech one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:22, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::And before anyone brings up classic examples like Marvel v Sunbow guys, those were characters based on the same toys. Not quite the same with SG guys. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:24, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The one thing I agree is that we should have a page compiling all Shattered Glass universes and listing them the same way we do with continuity family pages, like [[Movie continuity family]] for example. Put SG G1 as the &amp;quot;major continuity&amp;quot; and the others as minor. We need this page because most (if not all) SG pages direct to [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass (franchise)]] and that&#039;s just plain wrong when we&#039;re dealing with SG Animated or SG Movie. All character pages should remain separate, but a singular SG page explaining everything is more than needed. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 12:54, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: On that I absolutely agree. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:11, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oof, no. Now, &amp;quot;Shattered Glass&amp;quot; might could use a page for it as a CONCEPT, sticking to out-of-universe discussion of it and how it&#039;s been applied to stuff outside the original series. But... not this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 17:19, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I mean, sure, we don&#039;t have to treat it as &amp;quot;one big continuity&amp;quot;, explaining how the concept expanded is enough. I just think that a page simply listing all instances of a new SG-based universe is going to be important as time goes on if the concept keeps getting revisited. &#039;&#039;And&#039;&#039; would make more sense as a linked page than to link SG Movie Optimus to the original SG franchise page when they have no real connection. It&#039;s as wrong as if we claimed that &amp;quot;[[Fire Prime]] is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|RID]] Animated continuity family&amp;quot;. Unless we just use the current SG page for these purposes, but I don&#039;t see that as the better option. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 19:10, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Honestly, if the aim of this is to try and clear up minor pages people don&#039;t want, surely it would make more sense to merge the Shattered Glass versions with the ones they&#039;re explicitly spinning off from - ie merge SG Animated into Animated pages. (I am not suggesting this as an actual idea.) Shattered Glass is just the transformers name for &amp;quot;evil mirror version&amp;quot; which stuck around, and no-one is saying we should merge all Nemesis Primes from every continuity family together because they share conceptual DNA and a name. [[User:AkibaSilver|AkibaSilver]] ([[User talk:AkibaSilver|talk]]) 19:26, 14 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Japanese retail ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the process of whipping up a comprehensive list of campaign items (those &amp;quot;buy toy X or Y amount of merchandise and you get this fancy exclusive redeco for free&amp;quot; thingies), the current progress of which can be seen [[User:Nevermore/Sandbox/Campaign item|here]], I&#039;ve discovered that a lot of the writeups for those individual items are oftentimes based on very rough Google translations, and never fixed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a result, I&#039;ve encountered several instances of the same store being given multiple different names, such as &amp;quot;Eiden&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Ideon&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Eidon&amp;quot; for Edion (which is the spelling in the company&#039;s website URL and official logo), or even worse, &amp;quot;White Peony&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Shirobotan&amp;quot; (or &amp;quot;Shiro Botan&amp;quot;) for Hakubotan (again, the spelling in the company&#039;s website URL).&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, there is the occasional bad grammar such as &amp;quot;He was an exclusive in Japan to Edion toy counter&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Japanese stores like [...] Yamada Denki toy department&amp;quot;, sometimes chains like &amp;quot;AEON&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;EDION&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;BIC Camera&amp;quot; are spelled in ALLCAPS, and the original writeups made it seem like &amp;quot;Hakuhinkan Toy Park Ginza&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Shiro Botan Ishinomaki&amp;quot; were both the names of chains with multiple stores, when in fact the stores in question were supposedly specific stores, namely the Hakuhinkan Toy Park main store &#039;&#039;in&#039;&#039; Ginza (Toyko&#039;s main shipping district) and the Hakubotan store inside the Aeon mall &#039;&#039;in&#039;&#039; Ishinomaki.&lt;br /&gt;
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I assume these inconsistencies are the result of different people adding those writeups, but geez, what a mess.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 07:39, 16 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:AAAAAND it turns out that AEON and JUSCO are one and the same company. JUSCO used to be a subsidiary of the larger AEON orporation, but the JUSCO stores in Japan all changed their name to AEON in 2011.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 08:46, 16 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Weapons==&lt;br /&gt;
Lately I&#039;ve been going through (mostly) old Marvel stuff to nail down in-fiction appearances of G1 weapons - see [[Electro-kinetic blaster]], [[Plasma-shell shotgun]], and [[Thermal melter]] for examples. I&#039;m thinking of adding something to the Notes section similar to the &amp;quot;Gadgets and Powers&amp;quot; we do for cartoon episodes but for weapon shout-outs in the comics, perhaps titled &amp;quot;Courtesy of my...&amp;quot; as a more ordered way of keeping track of them. Does anyone have any feelings on that one way or the other? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] ([[User talk:Emvee|talk]]) 08:48, 18 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Talk:Transformers Legends (comic)#Controversy section]]-if somebody&#039;s willing to take this up, I&#039;d appreciate it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:03, 22 June 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Separate voice actor categories by series?==&lt;br /&gt;
This is just an off-the-cuff idea, but would it be useful create categories for voice actors that appear in a specific TF series? For example, Peter Cullen would be under &amp;quot;TF 1984 voice actors&amp;quot; (or however we&#039;d title it) and &amp;quot;Prime voice actors,&amp;quot; David Kaye in &amp;quot;Beast Wars voice actors&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Animated voice actors&amp;quot; and so on and so forth. I&#039;m not suggesting these would replace the &amp;quot;English voice actors&amp;quot; category, they would just be in addition to it. Now, granted, I don&#039;t know if we would/should separate any Japanese (and other languages) voice actors and make separate categories for each language, which would probably get out of hand or be too much. Or we just lump the non-English VAs with the English ones for each series. Again, this is just a random idea I had and thought I would put it out there for consideration. I totally understand if there is no need or desire for such a thing to be implemented. [[User:Turborun|Turborun]] ([[User talk:Turborun|talk]]) 20:59, 1 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hershey&#039;s Kisses Treasure Surprise ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just stumbled across some of these that I had forgotten that I had received for Christmas. They are tiny figurines of TF characters packed with four Hershey&#039;s Kisses in a light blue clamshell container with a cardboard label wrapper (white card, printed with yellow background to the logos and pictures). The packaging says &amp;quot;Collect all five!&amp;quot; I have only two, but each had a different figurine: Optimus Prime and Starscream. The packaging also shows Bumblebee. To my eyes, the Starscream looks like the Classics design, but they are pretty generic (and my eyes ain&#039;t that great). Has anybody else seen these? Where should they be documented? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:47, 11 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;ve seen them around in the occasional CVS as well, actually; the full list is Optimus, Megatron, Bumblebee, Starscream, and Grimlock, and they all seem to be Evergreen/Cyberverse designs. As for where they should go, I&#039;m honestly not sure. Probably a small page of its own similar to Candy Toy, and a quick write-up in each character&#039;s toy or merch section, though I&#039;m not sure whether to list them as G1 or Cyberverse. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:21, 11 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::To my understanding we&#039;ve been putting anything Evergreen-inspired under G1, except when they&#039;re specifically labeled as Cyberverse. So if the packaging only says &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; and not &amp;quot;Cyberverse&amp;quot;, I think they belong to G1. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 12:51, 11 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reintegration of Hasbroverse wiki content ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think we should consider migrating the content from the IDW Hasbro Wiki back here. The addition of another wiki made sense as a preemptive measure when the shared universe was first announced and we had no idea how long it was going to run, but with just two years of content, there really didn&#039;t end up being all that much, and a sizable chunk of the non-TF books and related content live here already, either fully or partially. The number of links out on [[Rom]]&#039;s page, for example, is rather low. Plus it just looks kinda silly when we have issues [[Wrath of Karza issue 1|#1]], [[Wrath of Karza issue 4|#4]], and [[Wrath of Karza issue 5|#5]] of a series on the wiki, but not {{i|Wrath of Karza issue 2|#2}} or {{i|Wrath of Karza issue 3|#3}}. The only major sticking point is all of the pre-Revolution G.I. Joe issues, which would be a *big* ask to include. I&#039;d be curious to get other folks&#039; thoughts on the matter, though. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 01:16, 23 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the Hasbroverse is Transformers centric enough to be moved to TFwiki, with GI Joe possibly being an exception.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 01:26, 23 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: I’m fine with post-Revolution stuff being incorporated. It still drives me bonkers that the last Visionaries story isn’t covered here despite 95% of that storyline being here. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 02:00, 23 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::As for pre-Revolution G.I. Joe, we don&#039;t include all of Marvel G.I. Joe either despite both the G1 and G2 crossovers. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] ([[User talk:Dark T Zeratul|talk]]) 05:04, 23 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It sorta makes sense now.  I doubt there will be an attempt to make another shared universe anytime soon.  I assume there&#039;s a semi-reliable Joe wiki we could link to for the pre-Revolution/post Transformers material, if necessary. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 10:06, 23 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sensible. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 13:06, 23 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think the current IDW Hasbroverse wiki could just be converted to solely IDW Joe, since I don&#039;t believe the general G.I. Joe wiki is very comprehensive. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:25, 23 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The general GI Joe wiki is nearly moribund. As an admin there, I invite anyone who wants to to come in and help. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 15:58, 23 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Can&#039;t help with this at all but sounds good, have at it [[User:Notsoalex|--notsoalex]] ([[User talk:Notsoalex|talk]]) 00:25, 25 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Echoing others that folding in the remainder of the content between Revolution and Unicron is just sensible and we can cross the Joe bridge when we come to it. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 10:49, 25 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;m gonna leave the discussion open for a few more days to make sure everyone who wants a say can have one, but this seems pretty unanimous so far. That said, while I&#039;m thinking of it, what do we want to do about Jem? The stance on coverage over there is &amp;quot;{{i|Jem and the Holograms (franchise)#Canonicity of Jem in the IDW Hasbro Universe|the characters are canon to Hasbroverse, but the books and stories themselves are not, but we&#039;re going to cover them anyway}}&amp;quot;. Thus as something that&#039;s kinda-sorta-but-not-really related, is that too far outside of scope to carry over, or should those articles be migrated too? -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:08, 26 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I wouldn&#039;t include Jem (or Clue) here. Only media actually in continuity with IDW TF. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:52, 26 July 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, that&#039;s good enough for me. I&#039;m starting a [[User:Cyberlink420/IDWSandbox|central hub]] to keep track of all that pages that need to be moved over or merged with existing pages. Please add to this list as you find pages that need migrating or complete the process. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:37, 6 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Further discussion on this topic has moved to [[User talk:Cyberlink420/IDWSandbox|this page]]; please provide your input.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:57, 6 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Pre-&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; repurposing documentation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey all, I had been wondering if we should document the repurposings of left over pre-&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; products in the toy sections instead of the notes sections? Or even both maybe?&lt;br /&gt;
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I threw together a quick &#039;&#039;&#039;[[User:Fanofcoolstuff27/sandbox/Pre-Transformers toys|sandbox]]&#039;&#039;&#039; of a couple of ideas I had. The first was just listing them all under the blanket term-header &amp;quot;Pre-&#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; and the other was using their actual franchise of origin as a header (e.g. Diaclone, Micro Change, Microman, etc.).&lt;br /&gt;
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I just figured that since we document fictional toys of characters that appear in comics etc. under the toy sections, wouldn&#039;t it also make sense to add the repurposed Pre-G1 toys? It especially makes sense (to me at least) when a lot of those toys or characters appeared in fiction long before any e-HOBBY, MP or Selects releases of those characters were made, and some of them haven&#039;t received official &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; updates at all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me know your thoughts. --[[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 00:07, 1 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I believe the central debate here will be whether we consider these toys &amp;quot;in-scope.&amp;quot; I do think this structure would generally be more user friendly than what we&#039;re doing at present if folks do not consider it a bridge too far. With regards to your sandbox, I would say the most sensible title structure would be the bottom one, as there&#039;s no sense in playing coy about the names of these toylines, with &amp;quot;Transformers&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Pre-Transformers&amp;quot; supertitles when applicable. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 14:08, 4 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Creating a foreign name list ==&lt;br /&gt;
A complete list page of all so far known foreign names and phrases. Grouped by continuity families, factions and priority. (First Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream...)&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[Transformers_Wiki:Policies#We_Hate_Lists]] --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:45, 6 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Generations subline toy headers on character pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe this has received enough support on Discord and on &amp;quot;[[Talk:Transformers: Generations (toyline)]]&amp;quot;, but I am reiterating on the Community Portal for everyone in general. It has become clear that Hasbro considers &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; a catch-all branding for many unrelated lines. Thusly, though I suggested the fix in the first place, it no longer makes sense for us in a post-&#039;&#039;Prime Wars Trilogy&#039;&#039; world to lump together many indented subline headers underneath &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;. Concordantly, a lone &#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; figure such as [[Overlord (G1)#Titans Return|&#039;&#039;Titans Return&#039;&#039; Overlord]] can afford to lose the &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; label in favour of &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Titans Return&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; alone. As a proof-of-concept of restoring plain chronological series order, I just overhauled &amp;quot;[[Galvatron (G1)/toys]]&amp;quot;. This eliminates the ridiculous placement of the &#039;&#039;Generations Selects&#039;&#039; figure above the &#039;&#039;Kingdom&#039;&#039; figure due to technically being labelled on packaging as &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039; in tandem with the HasLab Unicron pack-in minifigure. In addition, the entry for the &#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; figure is physically nearer to the entry for the contemporary &#039;&#039;Titans Return&#039;&#039; counterpart, and &#039;&#039;Kre-O&#039;&#039; can now naturally come in release order before post-&#039;&#039;Thrilling 30&#039;&#039; series. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 04:50, 30 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That honestly looks so much better. I&#039;ve gone and done the same with &amp;quot;[[Megatron (G1)/Generations toys]]&amp;quot; so we have an idea on how it would look implemented on split out pages. I&#039;ve also shifted the G2 Megatron repaints that were originally categorized under &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;War for Cybertron: Siege&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; respectively to the &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Generations Selects&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; header with Super Megatron. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 05:21, 30 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::In addition to simply reorganizing the toy headers, we really ought to be treating &amp;quot;Generations&amp;quot; like we treat &amp;quot;Timelines&amp;quot;, only using it for Generations 2010 to Thrilling 30 while everything from Combiner Wars onward should be using their respective line names, including with their own disambigs. There are too many uses of &amp;quot;(Generations)&amp;quot; tags in instances where the much more direct &amp;quot;(CW)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(TR)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(POTP)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(Selects)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(Siege)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(Earthrise)&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;(Kingdom)&amp;quot; would be far more concise. Generations stopped being the name of its own line as soon as Combiner Wars took it out of the toy packaging&#039;s main title logo and moved it to a tiny little brand logo in the corner.&lt;br /&gt;
::Even the tie-in media for Combiner Wars through now never used the &amp;quot;Generations&amp;quot; name. The cartoons were &amp;quot;Transformers: Combiner Wars&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Transformers: Titans Return&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Transformers: Power of the Primes&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;Transformers: War For Cybertron Trilogy&amp;quot;. The comic events for Combiner Wars and Titans Return were the same only minus the &amp;quot;Transformers:&amp;quot; part. Even in the TV commercials for each line called them &amp;quot;Transformers: Combiner Wars&amp;quot; and so on, never calling them &amp;quot;Transformers Generations: Combiner Wars&amp;quot; etc.&lt;br /&gt;
::These aren&#039;t subline imprints, they&#039;re their own lines, and ought to be treated as such, right down to having disambiguation tags like &amp;quot;(CW)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(TR)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(POTP)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(Siege)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(Earthrise)&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;(Kingdom)&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;(Selects)&amp;quot;. In the cases of FOC and Thrilling 30, those did keep the title as &amp;quot;Transformers: Generations&amp;quot;, so those &#039;&#039;were&#039;&#039; subline imprints and should stay as such. It also works to distinguish between Archer Era Generations (a toyline) and Warden Era Generations (an umbrella term/category).&lt;br /&gt;
::The current people at Hasbro call these &amp;quot;Generations lines&amp;quot; in the sense that they are each their own line belonging to an umbrella term/category rather than being the same single line that Generations used to be before the changeover of Hasbro teams in 2014-2015. It&#039;s basically become how like we would say that Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Japanese Beast Wars, and Car Robots (and arguably Animorphs) are all &amp;quot;Beast Era lines&amp;quot;, or like how we&#039;d say Armada, Energon, and Cybertron are all &amp;quot;Unicron Trilogy lines&amp;quot;, or like Movie 1, ROTF, DOTM, AOE, TLK, and Bumblebee are all &amp;quot;Movieverse lines&amp;quot;. Even things like half of the AOE line and all of Studio Series are officially considered &amp;quot;Generations lines&amp;quot; despite the obvious connotations of &amp;quot;Generations&amp;quot; that most fans do not associate with the Movieverse lines. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 11:26, 30 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;m fine with changing the section headers and disambigs. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:41, 30 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::So I&#039;m taking that we&#039;re also changing Movieverse toy sections from &amp;quot;Generations&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Studio Series&amp;quot;. I&#039;m down with that. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 15:11, 30 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hmm, you raise an interesting point. How might we implement something like this to, say, [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys]], which has multiple different &amp;quot;Generations&amp;quot; headers and sub-headers between one-half of AOE&#039;s line, the whole of Studio Series/Movie Edition/Premium Finish, and a portion of Buzzworthy Bumblebee? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:12, 31 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::My solution is, we leave the AOE portion just as it is, as it&#039;s already placed separately from the rest of Generations and in the right chronological order, and the &amp;quot;Generations&amp;quot; header is necessary there to separate those toys from the &amp;quot;Robots in Disguise&amp;quot; ones. Studio Series, Movie Edition and Premium Finish should get promoted to their own lines just like CW, TR, POTP etc, and as for Buzzworthy we should just change the &amp;quot;Generations&amp;quot; header to &amp;quot;Studio Series&amp;quot;. If we all agree on this, I&#039;d like to help implementing these changes myself. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 01:14, 31 August 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==How old should my account be?==&lt;br /&gt;
To make captions? [[User:Grimbee|Grimbee]] ([[User talk:Grimbee|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s not about age. Captions are meant to be a reward for users who actually put in the hard work adding proper content to the wiki. And considering you&#039;ve barely contributed (and most of the things you HAVE posted are jokes, one-sentence articles, or talk page messages telling &#039;&#039;other people&#039;&#039; to do things), doing so would be in poor taste at best. Honestly, if you&#039;re only here because you want to add captions, you&#039;re better off going somewhere else. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:30, 6 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Streamlining disambig headers==&lt;br /&gt;
Several on the Discord have voiced assent, so I am bringing the topic here. Our current system for putting disambig headers is unintuitive and overly complex. It creates situations like movie Sentinel who is stuck at (ROTF) thanks to a one line mention, as well as the completely jumbled mess of Aligned, with character pages at (Exodus) or (WFC) or sometimes just (Aligned) etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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My proposal is we streamline this by just having everybody at the continuity they hail from, not the piece of it. All movie characters at (Movie) and all Unicron Trilogy characters at (Unicron Trilogy) or possibly (UT). An argument I&#039;ve seen for the current system is that it specifies which part of the family somebody comes from, but the fiction section already shows what parts they are in. &lt;br /&gt;
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Characters like RID15 Grimlock or Prime Breakdown would be exceptions to this, of course, potentially maybe suite them with the other of their name in that continuity for convenient wiki searching.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh God a thousand times yes. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 11:19, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I have advocated for this move before so I vote in favor.&lt;br /&gt;
There&#039;s also a set precedent with Strongarm (G1) being moved from Strongarm (BWU) for the sake of reader friendliness.&lt;br /&gt;
Simplifying the disambigs will reduce the amount of initials and individual disambigs one has to go through when searching a specific character.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m leaning against. Under the current system everything is handled the same way, with a limited number of (G1 Autobot) type clarifiers, but if you go by continuity family first, there are &#039;&#039;so&#039;&#039; many situations that would need further disambiguation that you&#039;d lose all consistency.&lt;br /&gt;
:Just think how many Beast Era characters alone reuse G1 character names - you&#039;ve instantly got huge swathes of characters who are gonna need further disambiguation. So then you potentially have a situation of &amp;quot;Terrorsaur (G1)&amp;quot; versus &amp;quot;Inferno (BW)&amp;quot;, where guys originating in the same thing have got a random assortment of disambig tags. So maybe you make an exception for Beast Era and use (BW) and (BM) by default, but then you&#039;re starting to get half way back to the current system... &lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m not really convinced of an &amp;quot;ease of searching&amp;quot; logic because that&#039;s not what disambig tags are for, they&#039;re just a technical thing because we can&#039;t name multiple pages the same thing. If you&#039;re looking for a certain Hound, you can just type &amp;quot;Hound&amp;quot; into the search bar and pick the right one off a nice disambig page list, you don&#039;t have to try and guess at what the disambig is. (And while it obviously shouldn&#039;t be a main reason for any decisions, the amount of link changes and page moves this would require would be absolutely insane.) [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 11:34, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I definitely agree with &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; throwing BW/BM characters down the G1 hole and then having to build ladders of exceptions back out for every name reuse.  If we&#039;re going to try this at all, start with something that would need the fewest ad hoc fixes possible.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 12:11, 17 September 2021 (EDT)  &lt;br /&gt;
:Not voting one way or another, but just wanted to say that the (WFC)/(Prime) and (Movie)/(ROTF)/(DOTM)/(etc) distinctions are the ones that have actually bothered me in the past. These are the ones where many prominent characters from later instalments share pages with super minor ones from the previous instalments. Conversely, I don&#039;t like the idea of merging (BW) and (BM). But creating merges for (Aligned) and (Movie) would solve a lot of headaches. (And, as a side note, the acronym WFC refers to SO many things now.) —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 11:47, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Instead of trying to change &#039;&#039;almost everything&#039;&#039; with a few exceptions, why not just simply zero in on making &amp;quot;(Aligned)&amp;quot; the main exceptional change? Since it&#039;s probably the one that needs the treatment of this proposal the most. For the characters who share names, I&#039;d say neither would get to use the &amp;quot;(Aligned)&amp;quot; tag out of fairness. Like how we currently  have the two BW Silverbolts at disambigs other than &amp;quot;(BW)&amp;quot;. The two Sideswipes would remain at &amp;quot;(WFC)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;(RID)&amp;quot;, for instance. Same with the two Grimlocks, the two Kickbacks, the two Bludgeons, etc. Luckily, I think most shared-name cases are either with equally minor characters or equally major characters, the biggest exception I see being the Prime and COP Predakings. Maybe a suite could link those two together (along with all the other Prime and COP Predacons) since while each is their own separate person the implication of each Prime one being cloned from the COP ones suggests a biological connection between each one. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 11:48, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: I think the whole system could use serious overhaul but I definitely see the value in taking baby steps. Aligned seems to be the one that has the worst current system and the easiest fix so I&#039;m all for giving it a shot. If it works, great, if not we&#039;ve learned something. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 12:00, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Thinking more about this, I&#039;m beginning to feel that maybe not &#039;&#039;every&#039;&#039; single-named Aligned character necessarily needs the &amp;quot;(Aligned)&amp;quot; tag. Some do, certainly, like those who have appeared across nearly all of the fiction spanning all of the eras. Optimus, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, Jazz, who were in all/most of the games, books, &#039;&#039;and&#039;&#039; cartoons should get it. But if someone was only in the games, or only in one cartoon, then maaaaaybe they should be considered less of a priority for the &amp;quot;(Aligned)&amp;quot; tag. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 12:24, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think I would prefer just moving over the video game characters (and that dumb pop-up disambig) to &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot;. That was the main spine to Aligned, and it&#039;s weird how we got pedantic over video games and pretended they were &amp;quot;franchises&amp;quot;. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:32, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
In favor of tackling Aligned first, then thinking about other continuity headings later and separately. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 12:44, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just ran the numbers, and if we were to roll with this plan, 296 character pages would need to be moved from their current disambig to &amp;quot;(Aligned)&amp;quot;, while 48 would be left as is due to someone or something else with the same name in that continuity. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:09, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I am for this change. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:42, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I am down for starting with moving Aligned characters. I think this would help tremendously, especially if it expands to G1 and more (almost made me wish it had a better name but what ya gonna do) [[User:Notsoalex|--notsoalex]] ([[User talk:Notsoalex|talk]]) 15:49, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with using Alligned as the guinea pig for all the reasons stated above. [[User:MrRald|MrRald]] ([[User talk:MrRald|talk]]) 17:21, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It sounds like a good idea to me in the long run. Aligned always felt messy as it is now, with so many different potential origin points for characters. I imagine a newer fan might find it confusing.[[User:ParadoxFactor|ParadoxFactor]] ([[User talk:ParadoxFactor|talk]]) 18:07, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Absolutely &#039;&#039;against&#039;&#039; using &amp;quot;Aligned&amp;quot;. It&#039;s not an official designation, it&#039;s never been an official designation, and while it&#039;s entrenched enough that there&#039;s little point in expunging all our uses of it, we shouldn&#039;t be using it for disambiguations. That said, considering WFOC to be part of the Prime franchise is something I could get behind. As to an overall &amp;quot;disambiguate by continuity family&amp;quot; approach... mmmnnh I&#039;m not dead-set against it, but it&#039;s been debated many, many times in the past, and the decision&#039;s always come down to &amp;quot;franchise not family&amp;quot;. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:54, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I agree with avoiding &amp;quot;Aligned&amp;quot; for disambigs. Folding WFC, FOC, and COP into Prime would solve a lot of people&#039;s issues with the Aligned disambigs, I think. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 20:06, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That&#039;s treating a symptom and not the disease. Pretending that they&#039;re from a different franchise because if you&#039;re too strict about which franchises &#039;count&#039; you get gibberish is a bandaid. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 22:03, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I dunno, WFC, Exodus and Prime were all treated as being part of the same initiative back when they first came out, right? &amp;quot;Prime&amp;quot; is the only part of that with actual franchise branding, so I don&#039;t think it&#039;s unreasonable to consider them part of the same thing. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 21:15, 19 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It&#039;s absolutely not unreasonable to consider them all part of the same thing. But that thing is Aligned, not Prime. WFC was absolutely not Prime branded. And that&#039;s the whole point of this. IMO. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 23:01, 19 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::While we&#039;re focused on using Aligned as a guinea pig, it should be mentioned, however, &amp;quot;aligned&amp;quot; IS just a word. I watched an interview with FJ Desanto and he mentioned Hasbro wishes Cyberverse and WFC to match up since they are part of an aligned continuity, so key moments should match up like Optimus throwing the Allspark. Idk verbatim but I&#039;m sure I can find it, and I&#039;m SUPER sure they used aligned [[User:Notsoalex|--notsoalex]] ([[User talk:Notsoalex|talk]]) 11:34, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hypothetically, potentially, in an imaginary alternate universe... is it possible to switch everything back?  The next live-action movie is going to be about Beasts and so is its tie-in media.  If they invent Movie Manterror and Movie Tigatron, then we&#039;re going to have to disambig the prior characters as being from G1 and not BW.  And, uh, no.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:41, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:BW is not going to be folded back into G1, period. Any BW characters stay (BW), and in that hypothetical scenario, those pages would get moved to Manterror (BW) and Tigatron (BW). -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 13:46, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::But then we&#039;re using a blatant double standard out of sentimental favoritism, on a huge, un-ignorable, wiki-wide scale.  And we shouldn&#039;t do that.  If we&#039;re going to keep the distinctiveness of Beast Wars, we should keep that of Victory.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:20, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The next movie isn&#039;t going to be a Beast Wars movie, though. It&#039;s going be a &amp;quot;Rise of the Beasts&amp;quot; movie. Any new Manterror or Tigatron introduced in that movie would have a &amp;quot;(ROTB)&amp;quot; tag. If the movie was to be called &amp;quot;Transformers: Beast Wars&amp;quot;, &#039;&#039;then&#039;&#039; we&#039;d have a problem. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 14:26, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The title of the movie isn&#039;t the point.  Once there is a shared character name, all with that name get disambigs.  There is no &amp;quot;default&amp;quot; Inferno.  So once we have to disambig everyone effected, either we stay consistent with our Sept2021 system and disambig &amp;quot;old&amp;quot; Tigatron and Manterror as G1, or we work with multiple different systems for the same function on the same wiki based on subjective favoritism mostly shaped by how old people were when they first found the hobby.  EDIT:  actually it isn&#039;t hypothetical, if we&#039;re sticking with the Sept2021 system then Quickstrike (BW) and Depth Charge (BW) must now be disambigged as G1, or we&#039;re saying after about 20 hours that we&#039;re already largely ignoring our new system but still keeping it around to create confusion.  Welcome to Hell.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:32, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Huh? Isn&#039;t the Beast Era as a whole already treated as a special case, an umbrella thing, in the same vein as say, &amp;quot;Unicron Trilogy&amp;quot;? I know on a strict continuity sense it&#039;s all quote unquote Primax, but the point of this move is a &amp;quot;let&#039;s not be nerds about this&amp;quot; thing. AOE Lockdown being at Lockdown (ROTF) is kinda weird; that&#039;s what this is about. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 15:13, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Beast Era is definitely a special case, otherwise we would have BW Megatron on a different page than G1 Megatron. (And don&#039;t say &#039;but they met each other&#039; because Transformers meet other versions of themselves all the time.) There are also things like [[Strongarm (G1)]] and I do note that we don&#039;t have [[Trypticon (G1)]] under [[Trypticon (Scramble City)]] even though he appeared there before anywhere else. We make exceptions all the time when it makes sense to do so. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 15:27, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::BW and BM and their Japanese spinoffs are within the G1 continuity family, no more or less than Masterforce is within G1, no more or less than AOE and ROTF are both within Movie.  Unicron Trilogy is its own continuity family, like Movie and G1; it is a higher category than Beast Era.  I don&#039;t think we&#039;ve ever made a policy of &amp;quot;treating the Beast Era as a special case&amp;quot; to the degree that we dissolve some major franchises of origin but not others.  That doesn&#039;t make it easier, because it creates &#039;&#039;dozens to hundreds&#039;&#039; of exceptions that everybody has to actively remember forever, and if someone ever asks why we&#039;re doing it, the answer is just &amp;quot;We like the cartoon from 1999 better than the cartoon from 2003, and &#039;&#039;make sure you remember that&#039;&#039;, maybe tie a rubber band around your finger or make up a little rhyme to help you.&amp;quot;  &#039;&#039;&#039;We should really turn back, gang&#039;&#039;&#039;.  We just passed Obsidian (G1), Blastcharge (G1), Hamerstrike (G1), Strika (G1), Tankor (G1)....--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:35, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, so, I was tentatively in favour of the change to the WFC/FOC disambigs on the basis of them being games rather than franchises, but I had forgotten that there were Generations (etc) toys released with that branding. I am very much against disambiguating based on continuity, and &#039;&#039;especially&#039;&#039; using an unofficial name like Aligned for that. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 19:03, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Related tangent—an idea I had was to simplify (Headmasters), (Masterforce), (Victory), and (Zone) to just (G1), with obvious exceptions like the Zone faction-switch Microtransformers (and I guess Ricochet since there&#039;s already a G1 Ricochet &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;maybe we should move that to Stepper&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;). The same would apply for (BWII) and (BWN) to (BW). Both eras were functionally sold under the general G1 and BW lines by Takara, after all.&lt;br /&gt;
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And the various (SL), (Adventure), (LOTM), etc disambigs would default to their Hasbro counterpart lines. This thing is being more pedantic than we need to. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 15:04, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As someone who has been slowly going through and changing all of our JG1 toy headers to the accurate F!SRLT ones, I am all for this simplification. [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 18:41, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Likewise. Much more straightforward for the casual reader. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 18:53, 17 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:So under the proposed system, would it be the main page saying &amp;quot;Star Saber (G1)&amp;quot;, nothing changed further?  Or would that disambig page now additionally say &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;G1&#039;&#039; Star Saber&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Star Saber, the Supreme Commander from G1&amp;quot;?  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:59, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Either way is fine to me. I&#039;m not that invested in disambiguation wording. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:26, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is an obviously good idea. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 17:25, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
This is definitely a change for the better.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is a pretty straightforward extension of the toy section streamlining initiative already underway. I echo others that this would absolutely be a win for reader accessibility. No sense hairsplitting by what is essentially country of origin. -[[User:AzimuthAcolyte|AzimuthAcolyte]] ([[User talk:AzimuthAcolyte|talk]]) 18:19, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m in favour of this, yeah, assuming &amp;quot;if there&#039;s a preexisting G1 character of the same name, we keep the JG1 subline disambig&amp;quot;. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:49, 18 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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i&#039;m glad i looked away for exactly two days and we&#039;ve decided to just start recategorizing the entire damn wiki under continuity family rather than franchise of origin --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:24, 19 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:goddamn we deliberated longer on splitting out non-G1 versions of the magnaboss guys... and this was kind of a major-ass overhaul --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:29, 19 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::As I said, I&#039;m in favour of this change — rooted in &amp;quot;Japan treated all the various lines as part of the G1/BW franchises&amp;quot;, not &amp;quot;reorganising based on continuity family&amp;quot; — but, yeah, it&#039;s been THREE DAYS. We absolutely can&#039;t treat &amp;quot;well there wasn&#039;t any disagreement&amp;quot; as basis to make these kinds of sweeping changes so quickly. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 21:18, 19 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
While I am in favor of what&#039;s been done, it seems to highlight the problem I have with us using Discord. The presentation of this proposal here seemed to me to imply that the discussion on Discord had favored it and it was pretty much good to go. I assumed that Walky and others who had previously opposed such moves had weighed in there. I really don&#039;t agree with the idea of discussions that affect the wiki being held off site. It&#039;s too &amp;quot;secret cabal&amp;quot; for me. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:50, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:THANK YOU.  The Discordification of the wiki is one of the worst things to ever happen to it.  Every major change made here should be based on a discussion that is held &#039;&#039;here,&#039;&#039; with a transparent and permanent record of it.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:55, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made this argument back when major decisions were being made on the Allspark wiki thread. Once the Discord was launched, and I was told major decisions would not be made on another webpage but an entirely different platform I would have to download in order to follow, I chose to quit contributing for a year. I agree that it smells of &amp;quot;secret cabal&amp;quot;. Decisions about wiki content and policies should be made on the wiki, visible to everyone. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 10:04, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Policy on the Discord has always been that regardless of any discussion there, all major changes should be brought up and discussed here on the talk pages to have everything on record and avoid this very scenario. That&#039;s why this thread even exists. The recent moves are not &amp;quot;secret cabal&amp;quot;, it&#039;s one person rushing into things before due process had a chance to run its course. (And Thylacine and Xaaron, considering I&#039;ve seen you both post in the AllSpark thread, another source for off-site wiki discussion that now no longer has a record thereof, I don&#039;t think you have room to criticize the &amp;quot;Discordization&amp;quot; of the wiki. If you choose to participate in off-site discussion on one site but think another is over the line, that&#039;s exclusively on you.) -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:25, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I participated in the AllSpark wiki thread because it was often necessary to be involved &#039;&#039;there&#039;&#039; about decisions &#039;&#039;here&#039;&#039;, while also advocating that that shouldn&#039;t be the case at the same time. I can&#039;t point to the occasional rant I had about it on Allspark anymore after their attack, but you can see here in Archive65, &amp;quot;Other versions of character&amp;quot; where I complain about people announcing major changes on Allspark instead of the Community Portal. And, like Thy said, at least I could find the Allspark discussions. I tried to learn Discord during the Allspark/Pete thing, and I found it impossible to find/follow a conversation that was only hours old at the time. So, once the process of off-site discussions was both something I disagreed with AND something I couldn&#039;t follow even if I tried, I stopped being involved in the site community. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 12:18, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::There was never a major change made based on the AS thread, there &#039;&#039;certainly&#039;&#039; wasn&#039;t the pervasive attitude of &amp;quot;Why are you reverting such-and-such, this was already worked out on the Discord&amp;quot; for the AS thread, and also at least the AS thread was in the same format as our wiki pages so you could go back and quickly follow the sequence of a threaded discussion from years ago if you&#039;d wanted to.  Stuff on Discord scrolls away if you&#039;re not looking and unless someone specifically searches for it they&#039;d never even see the discussion at all.  You are correct that the AS thread now has no record - but that is a bug, not a feature, as it was erased along with the entire Allspark board, and I don&#039;t expect anyone will try to make a new one, precisely because such vulnerabilities are now obvious.   --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 11:47, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, Discord doesn&#039;t require you to download anything; you can [https://discord.com/ use the browser-based version] just fine. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 11:36, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I think Discord is a fine place to brainstorm, drum up support for an idea, figure out what some of the pros and cons are of any given proposal. But enthusiastic support for an idea on Discord should not be taken as a reason to bypass discussion here. I&#039;m enthusiastically in favor of this change and even I think it was implemented too quickly. Discord people (of whom I&#039;m one), voicing your support and reasoning there is no substitute for voicing it here. But I&#039;d like to push back on the notion that there&#039;s anything secret about it, it&#039;s a very open forum and can be fantastic for hashing out half-formed thoughts without having to take such a black-and-white stand on every issue. I think Saix just jumped the gun. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 11:49, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Just chiming in as one of the Discord mods to say that we have been trying our best to direct important changes here. I think the instantaneous nature of the Discord makes it easy to end up in a rush over things. However, I think the &amp;quot;live&amp;quot; nature of it has genuinely helped reduce the number of heated arguments like those that happen on talkpages/threads, because miscommunications seem to happen less often and can be cleared up faster; it&#039;s a shame that it&#039;s introduced problems of its own. The intent absolutely isn&#039;t to obfuscate! Speaking historically, the reason the wiki Discord was made was to try and merge two groups of editors—those posting in the Allspark thread, and those posting in the Allspark Discord—which, honestly, was a status quo that much more closely (if inadvertently) resembled a secret cabal. The current setup is broadly an improvement over that; it&#039;s not perfect, but hopefully people can get used to the &amp;quot;brainstorm there, table here&amp;quot; approach we&#039;ve been trying to push and we&#039;ll see less of these problems over time, rather than more. —[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 12:40, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::When it comes to off-site discussions, we have always been directed by both the admins of the wiki and the moderators of the Discord server to bring our topics up either here or on the respective talk pages. The input here always gets taken as the &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; vote no matter what, whereas most discussions on Discord are as Jim and Wads have said, just throwing around ideas and brainstorming, which can be very beneficial for filtering out the &amp;quot;dumb&amp;quot; and/or half-formed ideas before presenting the well-thought out ones here. That being said, Saix&#039;s actions yesterday should not be taken as the collective work of any off-site discussions. Most of us weren&#039;t even aware that he had already started moving stuff until Walky brought up his concerns here after the fact. But yeah, it seems that the Discord&#039;s instantaneous real-time reply system has made a few of us forget that talk page and portal discussions aren&#039;t as fast and that some users aren&#039;t around every hour of every day, leaving us with moments where things get changed a little &#039;&#039;too&#039;&#039; hastily before everyone has had a chance to see it or respond to it. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 12:53, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::We should probably move all of the talk about off-site discussion to a different header, as it seems we&#039;ve gone overboard with it. --[[User:DDog|DDog]] ([[User talk:DDog|talk]]) 12:59, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, just to make things very clear and stop discussions getting mixed up: &#039;&#039;&#039;this section is about the proposal to use (G1) disambigs for late-JG1 and (BW) disambigs for BWII/BWN, &#039;&#039;because they are considered the same franchise in Japan&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;. BWII toys were sold under &#039;&#039;Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers&#039;&#039;, Victory was sold under &#039;&#039;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&#039;&#039;. This has nothing to do with the &amp;quot;disambiguate by continuity family&amp;quot; proposal, which is in the section &#039;&#039;above&#039;&#039; this one. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:59, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Also moving Japanese franchise disambigs to their American counterparts (e.g. LOTM to Armada, Adventure to RID2015, etc.), except in instances where two characters with the same name exist. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:17, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have reinserted those remarks where they belonged. The &amp;quot;disambig by continuity instead of by franchise because Japan&amp;quot; is no longer a &amp;quot;proposal,&amp;quot; &#039;&#039;it has already happened,&#039;&#039; and I think it&#039;s a mistake that rather seriously breaks the wiki which is why I asked several times for it to be undone, at least until people could vote on it in the light of day. I do not see &amp;quot;because Japan&amp;quot; as a worthwhile reason. Once we create &amp;quot;Overlord (G1),&amp;quot; there is no internally consistent reason to have a &amp;quot;Quickstrike (BW).&amp;quot; Someone born in 2003 who never heard of &#039;&#039;any&#039;&#039; Transformers pre-Animated will have no idea why we are breaking up certain series or characters, and for them to get it they&#039;ll have to learn a lot of background about Transformers &#039;&#039;before they can start actually learning about Transformers.&#039;&#039; Upthread I saw a bunch of people say the equivalent of &amp;quot;Obviously this is a great idea!&amp;quot;, with none of them explaining exactly what was so great about it. Would anyone care to start? Preferably after this radical change has been reversed, so people can decide in good faith whether or not it&#039;s good instead of feeling like they have to come to terms with a diktat that was forced on them? Thanks. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 19:52, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Moving back because you&#039;re continuing to miss the point. Moving late JG1 to G1 and BWII/Neo to BW isn&#039;t being done by continuity family, it&#039;s because they were being sold as G1/BW toys. They&#039;re not franchises, they&#039;re sublines. By the same token, if we have Overlord (Masterforce), we should move Darksteel (Prime) to Darksteel (Beast Hunters). The treatment of JG1 and JBW as full franchises in place of sublines is rooted in misunderstanding from over a decade ago, and the passage of time has allowed us to gain a better understanding of what these lines actually were. Hence why JG1&#039;s and JBW&#039;s toyline pages were merged back into their parent toyline pages &#039;&#039;a year ago&#039;&#039;. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 20:02, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also going to point out that Overlord was at Overlord (G1) &#039;&#039;until&#039;&#039; 2009. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:03, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If toy packaging and instructions support &amp;quot;flattening&amp;quot; the G1s and BWs into G1 and BW, then, okay, fine.  That IS how we do things.  That is the letter of our law.  What sent off my alarm bells is the flattening, which felt very &amp;quot;we&#039;re changing fundamentally how we&#039;re organizing things,&amp;quot; away from franchise-of-origin, and also the doing it in two days.  I actually didn&#039;t see the ACTUAL &amp;quot;let&#039;s do this by continuity family&amp;quot; discussion one subheader above until later!  Which I guess is alarm bells vindicated, I dunno.  And that&#039;s a whole other thing.  But: It&#039;s just, like, if you&#039;re going to move literally hundreds of pages... give it more than two days.  Give me a heads up, even.  (Though I really have a feeling Saix wanted to get this done before I found out.  It&#039;s a feeling.)  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:25, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Entirely fair. I will say that I think that, while the pages &#039;&#039;shouldn&#039;t&#039;&#039; have been moved to begin with, I don&#039;t think we should go through the huge ordeal of moving them back until we &#039;&#039;have&#039;&#039; come to an agreement on this just to prevent a repeated back-and-forth mass-page-move. (Of course, if people agree that the pages should be at (Masterforce) et al, absolutely move them back.) --10:05, 21 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::JG1 and JBW series are repeatedly listed as franchises all over this wiki, including on the [[Franchise]] page and on their own pages.  If the argument is &amp;quot;the instructions say Japanese-G1-font-then-Victory, so it&#039;s just a subline of G1 and not its own thing,&amp;quot; then we are still very much hurled into the same problem I&#039;ve been talking about.  The late-G1 &amp;quot;Thunderclash windshield&amp;quot; logo is used on G2 and BW, so Blackarachnia is every bit as G1 as is Deathsaurus.  Or are we basing this on ad hoc judgments of how prominent the older logo is, whether it&#039;s on the top or the bottom or bigger or smaller or what color they use?  I also notice that [[Return of Convoy]] was &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; re-disambigged into G1, even though the packaging for [[Grandus (ROC)]] has the same &amp;quot;Fight! etc&amp;quot; livery and proportions as the other JG1 lines.  If next week two people started to agitate for BW to get re-tagged as G1 because of the instruction font precedent, our only argument against that would be &amp;quot;No, we like BW too much for that&amp;quot; (but don&#039;t worry, we wouldn&#039;t be expected to reclassify Beast Machines, because that didn&#039;t use the late-G1 font.  So Obsidian stays within Beasts, but Blackarachnia doesn&#039;t, it&#039;s easy to remember, surely friendly to new users....)  This was not carefully reasoned through, and anything done by an automated script can be undone the same way.  By rights people should have to make a tight and comprehensive argument both of why this change would improve the wiki and why it definitely won&#039;t reclassify other long-recognized franchises into mere sublines of G1 that now just get called G1.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::(EDIT - moving the Overlord/Darksteel point to the end.  It seems nearly all of the TF:Prime:Beast Hunters line were clearly designated as such &#039;&#039;except&#039;&#039; for Darksteel and some other Target dudes who were just TF:Beast Hunters.  Really don&#039;t think people want to argue for dissolving a half-dozen long-recognized franchises because of that.  That is literally the opposite of what &amp;quot;exception&amp;quot; means.--[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:04, 22 September 2021 (EDT)      &lt;br /&gt;
:::::For what it&#039;s worth, &#039;&#039;Return of Convoy&#039;&#039; was the only real line to branch out from the JG1 toyline, even if just a little. Everything before that was &#039;&#039;strictly&#039;&#039; F!SRLT, with sub-branding used for specific cases (e.g. &#039;&#039;The Headmasters&#039;&#039; for Headmaster characters, including the ones from the Masterforce cartoon, &#039;&#039;Targetmaster&#039;&#039; was used for Targetmaster characters, &#039;&#039;Seacons&#039;&#039; for the Seacons, etc, etc). &#039;&#039;Scramble City&#039;&#039; was the only exception to this, with it being used for Metroplex, Trypticon, Ultra Magnus and Galvatron, instead of just the combiners. &#039;&#039;Super-God Masterforce&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;Zone&#039;&#039; were titles that were never used in the toyline at all. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 10:24, 22 September 2021 (EDT)  &lt;br /&gt;
::::::I second Thylacine&#039;s proposal to include the ROC guys in the move to G1. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 10:26, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Oh, I wasn&#039;t against a move for the ROC guys to G1, just pointing out the weird branding that was JG1. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 10:29, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::nobody actually do that for at least 20 seconds --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 10:43, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::I didn&#039;t move the ROC guys because I forgot about them, not because of any particular reasoning. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:17, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Thank you for making that clear.  So we are left without the sub-brand / logo issue altogether, back at square one.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 12:57, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Are we? If the toylines don&#039;t have any mention of Masterforce, Victory, Zone et al, that feels like strong evidence for those franchises being part of G1 in Japan, exactly like Beast Hunters. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but it seems like your main point of objection is &amp;quot;well, we&#039;ve always done it like this&amp;quot;... but that was because Western fandom was previously &#039;&#039;unaware&#039;&#039; that JG1 was all one large toyline. I don&#039;t think the idea is to change the disambigs while changing nothing else about our coverage; we should probably update &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; of the way we cover these sub-series rather than treating them as their own full franchises like we currently do. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 13:35, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::Because the ROC thing undermines that.  If the other JG1 lines have no unique logos specifically on the boxes and instructions, and that&#039;s why they were merged into one big thing, then we&#039;ve now been told several times that ROC does have those but the person who made the merge only left them out of the merge purely by accident and several pro-mergers are saying ROC should also be merged now.  It looks like there isn&#039;t clear agreement on what the grounds for inclusion are.  I am not against changing &amp;quot;what we&#039;ve always done&amp;quot; as a matter of pure principle, but treating all of those series the way we treat subline imprints pretty radically changes the meaning of that concept. There are no other sublines (i.e. Powerlinx Battles, Primus Unleashed) that have completely separate storylines, settings, and casts.  We&#039;d surely have to keep their write-ups separate anyway, just as we do with the many many Optimus Primes that Hasbro considers to be all the same guy.  What is the benefit of the change, to us and our readers?  And if we &#039;&#039;are&#039;&#039; including ROC with the logo that was supposedly of equal importance that maybe it shouldn&#039;t be included but nevermind, why doesn&#039;t this suck in G2 and BW? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 14:55, 22 September 2021 (EDT)            &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::I actually think that it&#039;s debatable whether ROC should be included, same as with Operation Combination. I will note that G2 is &amp;quot;Transformers: G-2&amp;quot; and BW is &amp;quot;Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot;; neither has the &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot; branding that was given to the entire rest of JG1, which firmly delineates them as separate from the original line. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 15:06, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::Should have been clearer:  my concern is about G2/BW disambigs being tipped into USG1, which would become in-bounds if the supposedly important distinct-toy-branding-of-ROC-keeping-it-out-of-JG1 was decided not to matter anymore.  If we&#039;re making these judgments based on the level of labeling that makes something a distinct franchise, we need to be consistent.  Can we at least agree on that guardrail?  I&#039;m still not embracing it - we all know Masterforce et al have their own very distinct logos that we would continue to display - but at least can understand it.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 15:29, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::Note that several Return of Convoy Autobot Micromasters also share the same names as their G1 Decepticon Micromaster counterparts, so many of those won&#039;t be receiving the &amp;quot;(G1)&amp;quot; tag anyway. But nonetheless, all of those toys were still sold under the &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot; toyline logo. The secondary &amp;quot;Return of Convoy&amp;quot; logo they had was no different that the other secondary logos had by previous FSRLTF toys, such as &amp;quot;Scramble City&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;The Headmasters&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Targetmaster&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;Godmaster&amp;quot;. Thy, it really seems you&#039;re only harping on this because you can&#039;t grasp the idea that one toyline had five different cartoons in Japan (and another single toyline later had four different cartoons), when the idea of one show per cartoon has only been a thing in Hasbro&#039;s markets; a concept that Japan was never beholden to. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 16:14, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::::Specifically, the only ROC characters that would be moved are Sky Garry and Grandus. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:34, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::::By my read - and please tell me if I got this wrong - Fanofcoolstuff says ROC is distinctive enough that it wouldn&#039;t be merged into G1, Riptide says it&#039;s a real debate and probably shouldn&#039;t merge, Saix said it would have been merged but got left out by accident, and Sabrblade says it&#039;s not so distinct after all and &amp;quot;nonetheless&amp;quot; will at least partially merge.  And that was all in one day.  To be very clear, I don&#039;t care about ROC.  This is probably the longest conversation about ROC in world history.  But since a whole shitton of stuff just got G1-ified, whatever can prevent that suddenly got very important!  My point all along has been that if having a distinct-ish logo and storyline can still see a series get disambig merged one level up, then G2 and BW can be disambigged as G1 and we don&#039;t really have anything stopping that from happening except personal favoritism.  Someone could ask next week &amp;quot;why NOT re-disambig G2 as G1?&amp;quot; and just from today&#039;s conversation I really do not see how we would have an answer.  What, is the G2 toyline or cartoon more distinct from G1 than Victory was?  We need a clear consistent disambig system that we can explain to newcomers under which Victory is G1 now and Beast Wars Neo is BW now but G2 and BW cannot be turned into G1 now.  Do we have that system now?  If so, what is it based on?  If you think it&#039;s at all self-evident, it isn&#039;t.  Maybe I &#039;&#039;can&#039;t&#039;&#039; grasp it - but if that&#039;s the case, I am not so special that I would expect to be the only one.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 18:16, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::::::This is all a fair point, and I am sincerely glad for the dissenting opinion! I guess the question is &amp;quot;at what point does the Generation 1 &amp;quot;franchise&amp;quot; stop being a franchise&amp;quot;? In Japan, at least, I would argue that the answer to that question is &amp;quot;when they stopped using Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot;; that seems like the clearest delineation, given that that puts it at the same place we consider to be the dividing line in the US (between the Micromasters and G2). If we consider FSRLTF to be the Japanese name for the G1 franchise, just like &amp;quot;Micron Legend&amp;quot; is to Armada and &amp;quot;Adventure&amp;quot; is to RID15, then there&#039;s a clear divider that means G2 and BW can&#039;t be considered part of it. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 18:39, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::::::: I freely admit that I wasn&#039;t entirely convinced at first, but after considering the issue for a few days I&#039;ve ultimately decided that this consolidation is the right move. When the wiki was still taking shape in the late 2000s, individual franchise components were still very insular--chopped up, sequestered away, and written under the assumption that characters and concepts would likely never be revisited in any meaningful way, or backported into American &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; culture. Look at [[Deathsaurus (G1)|Deathsaurus]]&#039;s article for a good example of this: not just &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039;, but also &#039;&#039;Zone&#039;&#039;, Dreamwave, &#039;&#039;Timelines&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;Wings Universe&#039;&#039;, two IDW universes, and even a random cameo in the original Marvel timeline thanks to TF &#039;84. It seems weird to disambiguate by his franchise of origin when almost 64% of the headers in his page have nothing to do with &#039;&#039;Victory&#039;&#039;, or even Japanese G1 at all! We don&#039;t, for instance, disambiguate [[Windblade (G1)]] by &amp;quot;Windblade (IDW)&amp;quot;, even though here&#039;s arguably &#039;&#039;more&#039;&#039; instance to do so, particularly when it comes to the hordes of continuity-transplanted characters who keep showing up in stuff like IDW2 and the crossover comics.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::::::: We all know that Hasbro and its licensees don&#039;t view &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; canon and continuity the same way we do, and this has led to an increasing amount of bleed between different stories--between stuff like IDW&#039;s ongoing comic stories freely pulling from whatever catches their fancy, and FunPub stuff like Beast Wars Uprising and AVP, I think that this debate &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039; probably go beyond the intricacies of packaging minutiae... but, well, now I feel like I&#039;m conflating these two separate proposals together, so for the time being I think that reorganizing the JG1 characters like this is a good thing.[[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 18:49, 22 September 2021 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::::::: It&#039;s also worth noting that the [[List of Japanese ID numbers#Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers|ID numbers]] for the toys keep counting up all the way through Return of Convoy, furthering the argument that these are all part of one larger toyline. [[List of Japanese ID numbers#Beast Wars|Same with Beast Wars]]. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 19:00, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::::::Thy, you keep confusing &amp;quot;G1&amp;quot; the toyline (known in Japan as &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot;) with &amp;quot;G1&amp;quot; the continuity family. G2 and BW are part of the latter, yes, but both are &#039;&#039;not&#039;&#039; part of the former. And &amp;quot;Return of Convoy&amp;quot; is basically a [[subline imprint]], like what &amp;quot;The Unicron Battles&amp;quot; was for Armada. It&#039;s the same toyline with just an extra logo. And as Cyberlink says above, it continues the same ID numbering system as the rest of the FSRLTF line. G2 and BW were both separate toylines from G1 in both Japan and in Hasbro&#039;s markets. For Japan, neither were &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: G-2&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars&amp;quot;, they were just &amp;quot;Transformers: G-2&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers&amp;quot; (losing both the &amp;quot;Fight!&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Robot&amp;quot; parts of the FSRLTF title, even). And each even used a separate ID numbering system from that of FSRLTF. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 01:45, 23 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just want to make it clear AGAIN that I was never against the move of (ROC) to (G1). I was just simply pointing out how the packaging is &#039;&#039;slightly&#039;&#039; different. I apologize if I made that unclear. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 19:28, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I want to apologize for igniting this whole thing. My Sunday boredom and rush to get things done got the best of me, and I&#039;m sorry. If it&#039;s decided to revert my moves, I&#039;m fully willing to undo all of my edits, when I can get the time. (Sorry for the late reply, I&#039;m very busy with irl stuff for this week and the next.) [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:22, 21 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I realize most of the conversation was around the JG1 disambig, but I really don&#039;t like the suggestion to collapse the other Japanese line disambigs into the US lines. Using Adventure as an example, Cosmos was released in Adventure — he&#039;s not an RiD character, having no presence in the RiD version of the line. I know we tend to lean on the US version of things as the source of truth, but this to me feels like it implies something that isn&#039;t true. [[User:Spectre|Spectre]] ([[User talk:Spectre|talk]]) 20:41, 22 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disambigs for TM2 characters ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While we&#039;re still on the topic of page moves and titles and what not, I figured I should bring up these two cases that have bugged me for a while now.&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally feel that we should move &amp;quot;[[Dinobot II]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Prowl II]]&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Dinobot (TM2)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Prowl (TM2)&amp;quot;, respectively. These two were not given the Roman numeral suffix things (for lack of a better term) until the IDW Beast Wars Sourcebooks which were written what, 10 or so years after the fact?&lt;br /&gt;
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Both the toy packaging for the pair and their bios never gave them that title and I&#039;m pretty sure Dinobot was never called &amp;quot;Dinobot II&amp;quot; in the BW cartoon (granted, I haven&#039;t watched it in about 2 years, so I could be wrong). It just feels incredibly weird that we&#039;re naming these two after the Sourcebook names and not their original names.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:MrRald|MrRald]] had also brought up on Discord that the fiction surrounding Prowl II and Prowl (TM2) should be split, but I personally think that we should keep them together as it&#039;s the same character, just with a different origin, which is no different to say any G1 character between Marvel, IDW and the cartoon, etc. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 22:41, 19 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree with this change because the use of Dinobot II and Prowl II in the titles gives the wrong idea that these names have been used much more often than they actually have. Also there&#039;s always the possibility that someone will use those names in an official capacity just because they saw them on this wiki, and I think that&#039;s something we should try to avoid. --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] ([[User talk:Fritz|talk]]) 00:02, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The Sourcebook didn&#039;t even use the &amp;quot;II&amp;quot; in anything outside of the page titles and the Credits Index. Not in any of the biographical information for any of the &amp;quot;II&amp;quot; characters. In fact, the Credits Index goes the extra mile of placing each &amp;quot;II&amp;quot; inside a set of parentheses like &amp;quot;(II)&amp;quot;, as if to say &amp;quot;These are each the second character listed with a shared name, but the &#039;II&#039; isn&#039;t actually part of their names.&amp;quot; --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 00:48, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Prowl-II-the-owl-and-Binaltec-car was such a chore to put together, the only thing worse would be finding a way to take it apart - and both halves would need to refer to one another so much they would take up more space and cause more confusion than the single article currently is.  Let&#039;s leave it alone.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 09:52, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, as stated above I&#039;m personally not for a split. I think MrRald also has plans on bringing it up on the talk page itself, so I&#039;ll leave that discussion more up to him to bring up. But what&#039;s your thoughts on the moves to &amp;quot;(TM2)&amp;quot;? -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 11:35, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Are either &amp;quot;Dinobot II&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Prowl II&amp;quot; canonically-published names, or are they convenient shorthand this wiki made up?  [[Beast Wars Universe]] says &amp;quot;TM2 Dinobot&amp;quot;, the [[BotCon 2002]] postcard set says &amp;quot;Dinobot (Transmetal 2)&amp;quot;.  I don&#039;t own BW Sourcebook.  In general I side with names that are official (even if obscure) over those we made up.  --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 13:03, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::They were used officially, but only in the Sourcebooks for the most part. In Prowl&#039;s case, the Sourcebook use was kinda pseudo-retconned into being the JG1 version of the character, with AVP building onto the story and solidifying him as part of the Binaltech stuff. But other than that, both prowl and Dinobot have appeared in more pieces of fiction without the &amp;quot;II&amp;quot; in the name. -- [[User:Fanofcoolstuff27|Fanofcoolstuff27]] ([[User talk:Fanofcoolstuff27|talk]]) 13:30, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Turns out &amp;quot;Dinobot II&amp;quot; was used in Earth Wars. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 17:52, 20 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Before Dinobot II with the Roman Numeral in the Sourcebook, Dinobot 2 was used in the Dreamwave Summer Special title page for &amp;quot;Ain&#039;t no Rat.&amp;quot; --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 13:10, 23 September 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Crash of the Titan</title>
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		<updated>2021-06-07T14:47:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: /* Trivia */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{episode|&lt;br /&gt;
|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy]]&#039;&#039; ep 104&lt;br /&gt;
|image=CrashOfTheTitan both classes.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
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|prev=Space Party&lt;br /&gt;
|next=&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Crash Of The Titan&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[June 15]], [[2020]] (UK)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[[June 5]], [[2021]] (US)&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Allspark Animation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writer=[[Kevin Burke]] &amp;amp; [[Chris Wyatt]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Boulder Media Studio]]&lt;br /&gt;
|director=[[Pete Slattery]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;With time running out before Citadel Secundus crash-lands on Earth, the Rescue Bot recruits gather some old friends to roll to the rescue.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
As [[Citadel Secundus]] heads out-of-control towards [[Earth]], [[Wedge (RBA)|Wedge]] sends a distress transmission. All of the other [[Autobot]]s are paralyzed by the anti-[[energon]] field, with him the only one online thanks to a shield emitter he managed to grab. On Earth, [[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl]] and [[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]] puzzle over what to do, and Whirl hits on the idea of using [[Griffin Rock]]&#039;s new satellite dishes to try and control Secundus remotely. Hot Shot rushes off to get the encryption key from [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] before remembering Heatwave is on board Secundus, and [[Cody Burns]], who has the other key, is out of contact on a campout. Hot Shot laments that they&#039;ve always had the whole team for rescues, but Whirl has an idea for that too, and starts contacting some of the other Bots they&#039;ve encountered.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While Whirl picks up [[Slash (RBA)|Slash]] and [[Brushfire (RB)|Brushfire]], Hot Shot convinces [[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]] to help and finds [[Sludge (FOC)|Sludge]] and [[Snarl (FOC)|Snarl]] playing in a junkyard. Meanwhile Wedge has scrounged up two more shield emitters, which unfortunately aren&#039;t powerful enough to restore the teachers, but he uses them on [[Medix (RB)|Medix]] and [[Hoist (RB)|Hoist]]. On Earth, Whirl briefs their new recruits who are skeptical they&#039;ll be able to help until Hot Shot gives them a pep talk. They send Slash to find Cody, while Brushfire clears a landing spot for Secundus. Sludge and Snarl are given the task of realigning the satellite dishes, while Laserbeak helps Whirl and Hot Shot rewire the controls at the Academy. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On Secundus, Medix and Hoist are worried about their situation as well, but Wedge encourages them. Slash finds Cody and heads back to base with him, arriving as Whirl and Hot Shot are finishing up the rewiring. The Bots on Secundus get communications going and contact the Academy. Whirl and Hot Shot let them know the plan, and Medix realizes they need to get Secundus into receive mode for it to work. Working together, the recruits and their friends successfully take control of Citadel Secundus, pulling him out of the crash moments before he can hit [[Milford]]. The sudden course change sends Wedge flying, causing him to disconnect a vital cable, but he&#039;s able to reconnect it and restore control in just enough time to avoid Secundus hitting a building. Hot Shot lands the Titan safely next to the Academy.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] congratulates the recruits on their work and invites Slash, Brushfire, Sludge, Snarl and Laserbeak to join the Academy as a new class of recruits, making Laserbeak an Autobot in theprocess. When Medix asks how everyone will fit, it&#039;s revealed that Citadel Secundus is now an addition to the Academy. Hot Shot and Whirl show off the sculpture they&#039;ve made, which they reconfigure into a Rescue Bot insignia, with Hot Shot expressing his gratitude for everything the faculty has done and his optimism for the future of the Academy.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[&#039;Til all are one]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Citadel Secundus]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wedge (RBA)|Wedge]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blades (RB)|Blades]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Boulder]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chase (RB)|Chase]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Perceptor (Prime)|Perceptor]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (WFC)|Ratchet]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grimlock (RID 2015)|Grimlock]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Medix (RB)|Medix]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hoist (RB)|Hoist]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl]] (12)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]] (13)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Slash (RBA)|Slash]] (14)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]] (15)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brushfire (RB)|Brushfire]] (16)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sludge (FOC)|Sludge]] (17)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snarl (FOC)|Snarl]] (18)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (19)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] (21)&lt;br /&gt;
|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cody Burns]] (20)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[H.B. Luskey|Mayor Luskey]] (22)&lt;br /&gt;
|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tough Luck Chuck]] (23)&lt;br /&gt;
|}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Ugh, I believe I may have caroused too vigorously.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Medix&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;We helped out on a couple of rescues, but that was mostly by accident.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Mostly? &#039;&#039;Entirely!&#039;&#039;&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Sludge&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Snarl&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*Slash was previously seen in &amp;quot;[[The Tracker]]&amp;quot;, while Brushfire was introduced in &amp;quot;[[Brushfire (episode)|Brushfire]]&amp;quot;, and is still in [[Australia]]. Laserbeak was rescued from a ship in &amp;quot;[[More Than Meets The Eye (RBA)|More Than Meets The Eye]]&amp;quot;, and has been hanging out at the Academy since, albeit mostly unseen. Sludge and Snarl have had semi-regular appearances since their introduction in &amp;quot;[[Mission Dinobot]]&amp;quot;, most notably carrying out a rescue on their own in &amp;quot;[[Dino-mite Duo]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Citadel Secundus]] becomes an addition to the Academy, just like Wedge desired back in &amp;quot;[[The Lonely Titan]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*TBA&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
*The title is a play on the 1981 fantasy adventure film &#039;&#039;{{w|Clash of the Titans (1981 film)|Clash of the Titans}}&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
*TBA&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*With this final episode, &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots Academy&#039;&#039; officially ties with its [[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|predecessor]] for greatest number of episodes produced of any &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; show. However, if you want to get &#039;&#039;technical&#039;&#039;, the original &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; featured 22-minute episodes as opposed to &#039;&#039;Academy&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&#039;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;s 11 minutes, so it could be argued the former is twice as long even though the numbers are the same on paper.&lt;br /&gt;
*Also with this final episode, the [[Aligned_continuity_family|Aligned continuity]] comes to an end. As the episode released on June 15, 2020, in the UK, falling two days short of the 10-year anniversary of the [[Transformers:_War_for_Cybertron_(games)|&#039;&#039;War for Cybertron&#039;&#039; games]], it &#039;&#039;almost&#039;&#039; manages to succeed in making the continuity last a decade, as was originally planned. &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;decade&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[Hasbro Q&amp;amp;A/January 2011: Answers|TFWiki.net Hasbro Q&amp;amp;A, Jan. 2011]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, it wouldn&#039;t air in the United States for nearly an additional year, debuting on Discovery Family on June 5, 2021, easy surpassing the decade goal in it&#039;s primary market.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
*TBA&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
{{epstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Rescue Bots Academy episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Dino-mite_Duo&amp;diff=1505245</id>
		<title>Dino-mite Duo</title>
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		<updated>2021-05-09T02:06:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: /* Real-world references */&lt;/p&gt;
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|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy]]&#039;&#039; ep 95&lt;br /&gt;
|image=&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=One Of Our Dragons Is Missing&lt;br /&gt;
|next=The Lonely Titan&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Dino-mite Duo&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[June 9]], [[2020]] (UK)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[[May 8]], [[2021]] (US)&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Allspark Animation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writers=[[Kevin Burke]] &amp;amp; [[Chris Wyatt|Chris &amp;quot;Doc&amp;quot; Wyatt]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Boulder Media Studio]]&lt;br /&gt;
|director=[[Ray Quigley]]&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;When the Rescue Bots and recruits are all away from the Academy, Sludge and Snarl are put in charge.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Grimlock (RID 2015)|Grimlock]], [[Snarl (FOC)|Snarl]] and [[Sludge (FOC)|Sludge]] find the recruits packing up boxes, which [[Medix (RB)|Medix]] says is equipment for their volcanology field trip to a tropical island. [[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]] is disappointed that they&#039;re not just taking a holiday, but [[Perceptor (Prime)|Perceptor]]&#039;s holographic presentation on diamonds gives him enthusiasm again. Perceptor and the recruits head out, only for the alarm to go off — [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] and [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] arrive with the news there are meteors heading towards [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon City]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and they need Grimlock&#039;s help. Unfortunately this means Sludge and Snarl are the only ones left to look after the academy, so Heatwave reluctantly leaves them in charge.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The pair start off by skateboarding through the academy, and progress to using the racing track as a water slide, misusing the wind tunnel, and demolishing a sim city in Hero Hall. They&#039;re resting in the middle of the mess they&#039;ve made when the alarm goes off. There&#039;s a construction incident at [[Mount Griffin]] and the [[Rescue Bot]]s are needed, however Sludge is perturbed when Snarl claims he and Sludge are Rescue Bots. Snarl is sure they can handle whatever&#039;s happening... until they arrive at the site, see the unstable construction platform and realize they&#039;re out of their depth. For lack of any better ideas, the two Dinobots scale the mountain behind the platform and somehow manage to jump over to it. Using a girder as a makeshift seesaw, Snarl gets Sludge to the crane at the top and Sludge uses it to pick up Snarl. Swinging from the crane, Snarl uses his tail to move the platform back to a stable position. The saved humans cheer the two Dinobots.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Heatwave and the others return through the [[space bridge]], bracing themselves to see what chaos they&#039;re going to come back to, only to find Snarl and Sludge cleaning and claiming nothing at all went wrong. Perceptor arrives back with the recruits, and Hot Shot&#039;s comment about pressure allowing gems to form causes the two Dinobots to laugh, before quickly getting back to cleaning.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
{{featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grimlock (RID 2015)|Grimlock]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Snarl (FOC)|Snarl]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sludge (FOC)|Sludge]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Perceptor (Prime)|Perceptor]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hoist (RB)|Hoist]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wedge (RBA)|Wedge]] (8)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Medix (RB)|Medix]] (9)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] (10)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] (11)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c3=&lt;br /&gt;
*Foreman (12)&lt;br /&gt;
*workers (13)&lt;br /&gt;
|}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I studied lava once too.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I already told you, being stuck in hardened lava for two years isn&#039;t the same as studying it.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Sludge&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Grimlock&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Oh no! What did we do?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Whatever it is, I blame Snarl.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I do too.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Snarl&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Sludge&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;That&#039;s us! Rescue Bots!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;And totally not just their weird friends.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Snarl&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Sludge&#039;&#039;&#039; triumphant.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*TBA&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*Grimlock name-drops Swoop in a conversation with Sludge and Snarl.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
*The scene where Sludge and Snarl climb and demolish simulated buildings is reminiscent of the arcade game &#039;&#039;Rampage&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
*TBA&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
*TBA&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
*TBA&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
{{epstub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Rescue Bots Academy episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Hot_Shot_(Prime)&amp;diff=1494345</id>
		<title>Talk:Hot Shot (Prime)</title>
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		<updated>2021-03-26T02:59:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: /* Split */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Mainpic ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots Academy&#039;&#039; comes out, does that design get used for his main image? I know the rule is &amp;quot;first Earth body&amp;quot;, but that&#039;s been ignored with some characters like Lockdown so he could have a picture of his AOE self at the top of his article, rather than his ROTF design. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 11:25, 13 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We don&#039;t really know yet if RBA Hot Shot is even gonna be able to be considered the same guy as Prime Hot Shot or a different guy like RID 2015 Grimlock and Sideswipe are from their Cybertron game namesakes. It&#039;s all just &amp;quot;wait and see&amp;quot; at the moment. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 14:52, 13 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I feel like there&#039;s no way Hot Shot won&#039;t be the same guy. Grimlock and Sideswipe were basically new characters (and were even originally intended to be new characters), while both Prime and RBA Hot Shot are thoroughly based on UT Hot Shot. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 16:55, 13 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::...Unless RBA Hot Shot turns out to be a little kid-bot, which he and his fellow new recruits look like, as opposed to Prime Hot Shot being a young adult-bot who fought in wars as a Wrecker. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 17:49, 13 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I mean, yes, their histories will inevitably be incompatible. That doesn&#039;t mean that they need to be considered separate characters; the Sideswipes were split because they had nothing in common but their name and &amp;quot;red car&amp;quot;, not because one was around before the war and one wasn&#039;t. --[[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 17:55, 13 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Erm, well, that kinda was at least part of why Sideswipe and Grimlock were split. As in, we feel that the Jazz from the games/books and the Jazz from RID are the same guy since he and Bee are old pals and we definitely know Bee is the same across the games/books/shows/etc., but while WFC Sideswipe was a compatriot of Jazz and Bee in the war, RID Sideswipe was not.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I mean, if your argument for the Prime and RBA Hot Shots being unquestionably the same guy (even at a point when we barely know anything about RBA Hot Shot at all, if I might add) is that they&#039;re both based on the same source character of UT Hot Shot, then, well, the exact same could be said of the WFC and RID Sideswipes both being based on G1 Sideswipe, with the added bonus of RID Sideswipe&#039;s characterization even being the closest we&#039;ve ever come to seeing the &amp;quot;brash, loosely-obedient, crafty rebel&amp;quot; personality described in both G1 Sideswipe&#039;s original Bob Budiansky-written profile and his Dreamwave MTMTE profile properly depicted in story form.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::We&#039;re kinda passed the point of &amp;quot;every same-named version of each character in Aligned is the same single person&amp;quot; that was more enforced during the tenure of Aaron Archer&#039;s team rather than the more loose and &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;largely indifferent&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; laid-back approach towards Aligned that John Warden&#039;s team seems to have. We&#039;re just going to have to wait and see if RBA Hot Shot can really be considered the same person as Prime Hot Shot or not. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 20:47, 13 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&amp;quot;the Sideswipes were split because they had nothing in common but their name and &amp;quot;red car&amp;quot;. And it appears there&#039;s nothing in common but Hot Shot&#039;s name between these two &#039;bots. - [[User:TBR|TBR]] ([[User talk:TBR|talk]]) 04:40, 14 October 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Split==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I think it looks like Hot Shot (Prime) and Hot Shot (RBA) should be split. Same principle as [[Whirl (FOC)|Whirl the Wrecker]] and [[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl the Academybot]] in aligned continuity. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 09:35, 4 June 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you very much. But, tell me: what is the motivation that drives everybody to consider the two characters the same? Forgive me, but English is not my first language. [[User:RoboWarriorPrime|RoboWarriorPrime]] ([[User talk:RoboWarriorPrime|talk]]) 09:58, 07 June 2019&lt;br /&gt;
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:I&#039;m not sure I agree with splitting them. They&#039;re both the same Hot Shot archetype whereas the two Whirls have different personalities and looks. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 19:08, 7 June 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yeah, I&#039;m not so sure now either. At first I thought Hot Shot being a pre-existing Wrecker was a good reason to assume he was a different &#039;bot in-universe from the Rescue Bots Academy rookie. But I thought that came from his toy&#039;s bio card, when actually the Hot Shot (Prime) toy bio just sounds like a generic up-and-coming &#039;bot. If the Wrecker thing just comes from a BotCon Script Reading, I&#039;m less inclined to call THAT characterization a reason for a split. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 22:21, 7 June 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::While I wouldn&#039;t mind a split, I&#039;m pretty sure that the reason Hot Shot was made a Wrecker in that BotCon script reading was because, at the time, this Wiki treated Prime Hot Shot and WFC Rodimus as the same person because of the WFC games naming Rodimus &amp;quot;Hot Shot&amp;quot;, and &#039;&#039;that&#039;&#039; was due to both the name &amp;quot;Hot Rod&amp;quot; still being unavailable at that point in time and a desire by Hasbro to not call the game character &amp;quot;Rodimus&amp;quot; because, at that point in time in the game character&#039;s life, he wouldn&#039;t be named &amp;quot;Rodimus&amp;quot; yet and Hasbro wanted to tell the story of how he would become Rodimus later on (which they never did), so the name &amp;quot;Hot Shot&amp;quot; was used in the games as an alternative to &amp;quot;Hot Rod&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::BUT, the unofficially published prose story &amp;quot;Bumblebee at Tyger Pax&amp;quot; had mentioned a character named &amp;quot;Rodimus&amp;quot; as a member of the Wreckers, but as mentioned, that story was unofficial. Still, as it was considered pseudocanon, it seems that the BotCon script reading tried to at least acknowledge the Wrecker Rodimus from that story by making the officially-named &amp;quot;Hot Shot&amp;quot; character (who, as I said, was considered the same guy as &amp;quot;Rodimus&amp;quot; back then) into a Wrecker, in order to weave things back together.&lt;br /&gt;
:::BUUUUUUUT, then the novel &amp;quot;Retribution&amp;quot; came out later and used the &amp;quot;Rodimus&amp;quot; name for the WFC guy after all, in spite of the previous notion of Hasbro wanting the character to not be named &amp;quot;Rodimus&amp;quot; yet. &#039;Course, by that point, the old Hasbro brand team was on its way out and being replaced by the new one that didn&#039;t take as much interest in the Aligned media as the previous team did, so the &amp;quot;Rodimus&amp;quot; thing didn&#039;t really matter much anymore.&lt;br /&gt;
:::So, at the end of it all, Prime Hot Shot and WFC Hot Shot (now definitively named &amp;quot;Rodimus&amp;quot; despite the games naming him &amp;quot;Hot Shot&amp;quot; for the reason previously given) were split out from each other as separate characters, and the events of &amp;quot;Bumblebee at Tyger Pax&amp;quot; got canonized by Ask Vector Prime, leaving us now with two different Aligned guys named &amp;quot;Hot Shot&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Rodimus&amp;quot; who are both members of the Wreckers. And that&#039;s all &#039;&#039;before&#039;&#039; Rescue Bots Academy went and did it&#039;s &#039;&#039;own&#039;&#039; take on Hot Shot. &#039;&#039;Phew!&#039;&#039; --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 14:19, 8 June 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::...Prime Hot Shot was a Wrecker entirely because we thought it&#039;d be cool if he was a Wrecker and it fit the story we wanted to tell. We could physically not give less of a shit about some spinoff game&#039;s name fuckery. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:16, 8 June 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::He&#039;s small, young and without weapons. He OBVIOUSLY is a new character, maybe one of those born after Optimus&#039;s sacrifice during Predacons Rising. [[User:RoboWarriorPrime|RoboWarriorPrime]] ([[User talk:RoboWarriorPrime|talk]]) 09:01, 04 August 2019&lt;br /&gt;
::::::It does seem odd that a Wrecker would be a new recruit to a non-combat unit and that he&#039;d be recruited while playing school-yard games with his friends. However, there&#039;s currently no evidence one way or the other that it&#039;s a separate character. Since it can be neither confirmed nor denied officially, and they have the same name and (roughly) similar personalities, keeping them together is the most appropriate editing policy to follow. Lots of &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; situations have been proven otherwise in the past. For example, &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]&#039;&#039; was treated as G1, including by High Moon Studio. But Hasbro and later High Moon interviews official put it in the then newly announced [[Aligned continuity family]], disproving its &amp;quot;obvious&amp;quot; G1 nods. Given how almost every single installment of every single piece of media has a &amp;quot;Continuity Errors&amp;quot; section with at least a handful of examples, &amp;quot;because it doesn&#039;t add up&amp;quot; is unfortunately not a reliable reason to argue over discrepancies. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream|talk]]) 16:18, 8 October 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Reviving this discussion. I move in favour of splitting &#039;&#039;Prime&#039;&#039; versus RBA Hot Shot in parallel with FOC versus RBA Whirl to capture how the latter not only have very different characterisation but also feel like postwar births even if not explicitly clarified as such. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 10:34, 19 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes. Split them. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 22:59, 25 March 2021 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Brushfire (episode)</title>
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|otherseries=&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy]]&#039;&#039; ep 83&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Brushfire Brushfire brushfire.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|caption=[[W:2019–20 Australian bushfire season|Topical!]]&lt;br /&gt;
|prev=Helicopter Heroes&lt;br /&gt;
|next=The Ties That Bind (episode)&lt;br /&gt;
|title=&amp;quot;Brushfire&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|airdate=[[June 1]], [[2020]] (UK)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;[[March 20]], [[2021]] (US)&lt;br /&gt;
|production company=[[Allspark Animation]]&lt;br /&gt;
|writer=[[Ciarán Morrison]] &amp;amp; [[Mick O&#039;Hara]]&lt;br /&gt;
|animation studio=[[Boulder Media Studio]]&lt;br /&gt;
|director=[[Ray Quigley]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Whirl has got so used to being part of a team that she doesn&#039;t like to make decisions without them, even though she is perfectly capable of doing so.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Synopsis==&lt;br /&gt;
Trudging through a mine, [[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl]] finds an intersection for some mine cart tracks and reports her discovery to [[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]]. She&#039;s not confident enough in knowing which lever to pull and unfortunately as a consequence, the mine cart crashes shortly after the rest of the recruits arrive. The simulation fails, only for a distress call to arrive on the same frequency as the sim generator, meaning it&#039;s been sent by a Cybertronian. Joined by [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]], they pinpoint the source of the signal as somewhere in [[Australia]], and their teacher dispatches them to respond to the SOS.&lt;br /&gt;
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The recruits arrive in the Australia outback, and Whirl spots a nearby farm. They arrive to find it&#039;s been abandoned, but also encounter the source of the distress call, fellow [[Autobot]] [[Brushfire (RB)|Brushfire]]. Mobs have been terrorizing a local town, and, assuming Brushfire means people, the recruits are ready to help disperse them while in disguise. The mobs in question turn out to be [[kangaroo]]s, as demonstrated when a mob of them rampages past the recruits. The kangaroos are coming from three directions, so the team splits up to investigate.&lt;br /&gt;
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Brushfire and Whirl follow the trail back and find a fire blazing. Whirl contacts [[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]] for fire support, but the other two groups have found their own fires to fight. Whirl and Brushfire manage to extinguish their fire, but the others have less luck and have to retreat to the farm. The remaining fires combine into a firestorm, and the recruits are at a loss without a source of water. Brushfire luckily has knowledge of using divining rods to find underground water and has created a version with Cybertronian scanning tech. They locate water, and while Medix and Whirl search for buckets, Whirl finds and rescues a baby roo trapped by a ring of flames — finally realizing she doesn&#039;t have to look to others for help every time. With the water source located, the recruits put out the firestorm. The recruits invite Brushfire to the academy, but she&#039;s happy being on her own... for now.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Featured characters==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl]] (1)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Shot (Prime)|Hot Shot]] (2)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Medix (RB)|Medix]] (3)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hoist (RB)|Hoist]] (4)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wedge (RBA)|Wedge]] (5)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]] (6)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brushfire (RB)|Brushfire]] (7)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Remember guys, this isn&#039;t Griffin Rock, so we need to keep a low profile with the locals.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;What locals?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:—&#039;&#039;&#039;Hot Shot&#039;&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;&#039;Wedge&#039;&#039;&#039; on the vast tracts of nothing that make up the Australian desert.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Continuity notes===&lt;br /&gt;
*This episode marks the in-fiction debut of Brushfire, who had previously been a toy-only character during the original Rescue Bots series. As that toyline tended not to include bios, this episode also is the first time her gender is established.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Transformers references===&lt;br /&gt;
*TBA&lt;br /&gt;
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===Real-world references===&lt;br /&gt;
*Brushfire is familiar with the human practice of [[W:Dowsing|dowsing]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Animation and technical errors===&lt;br /&gt;
*TBA&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trivia===&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign localization===&lt;br /&gt;
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==Home video releases==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Rescue Bots Academy episodes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Megatron (Cyberverse)</title>
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:&#039;&#039;Megatron is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers: Cyberverse (franchise)|Cyberverse]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:CyberverseMegatron.jpg|thumb|300px|Don&#039;t tell him he doesn&#039;t have his back cannon, or he&#039;ll shoot the text down below!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; arose from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]&#039;s [[Gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial]] arenas, and has never forgotten the lessons that he learned there. Not only is he utterly ruthless in combat, unafraid to fight dirty, and able to brutally put down any would-be pretenders to the throne, but in his new career as [[Decepticon leader]] he&#039;s able to effortlessly spin rhetoric, work a crowd, and carefully indulge his theatrical side to gain supporters. But despite his natural charisma, Megatron dreams of a new era when all of Cybertron is united under one banner—an era when he&#039;ll no longer have to rely on the disparate, dysfunctional personalities that comprise the [[Decepticon]]s to enforce his will upon the galaxy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron may be a tyrant, but he&#039;s no slavering monster—he knows when to advance, when to retreat, and even respects his former friend [[Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)|Optimus Prime]] enough to enter into occasional peace talks. And, somewhere far beneath his exterior, there still pulses the [[spark]] of a humble &#039;bot who just wanted what was best for Cybertron... a trait that&#039;s both his greatest strength and his biggest shortcoming.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{voiceactor|[[Marc Thompson]] (English), [[Shigeru Chiba]] (Japanese)|[[Erwin Grunspan]] (French, season 1), [[Robert Dubois]] (French, season 2), [[Peter Reinhardt]] (German), [[Maurizio Trombini]] (Italian), [[Javier Gámir]] (Castilian Spanish), [[Enrique Cervantes]] (Latin-American Spanish), [[Johan Hedenberg]] (Swedish)}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Megatron - Cyberverse - Megatron Is My Hero promo.jpg|thumb|left|250px|There&#039;s a little of him in all of us.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Eons ago, Megatron was a [[Gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial champion]] on Cybertron, besting numerous powerful opponents, including [[Devastator Maximus]] whose [[brain module]] he crushed. {{storylink|Trials}} While Megatron&#039;s raw strength served him well in the gladiatorial pits, it was his charisma which netted him a large following of admirers from all flocks of life. {{storylink|Megatron Is My Hero}} Among his followers was [[Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)|Optimus]], a file clerk who began to author Megatron&#039;s speeches to his following. {{storylink|Maccadam&#039;s}} At a rally, Megatron dubbed his movement &#039;[[Decepticon]]s&#039;, and swore to create a new Cybertron that would bring equal rights to all citizens. As his power base grew however, Megatron&#039;s personality took a darker turn, eventually declaring [[Great War (Cyberverse)|open war]] on Optimus and his own followers. {{storylink|Megatron Is My Hero}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Among Megatron&#039;s early acts was the execution of the [[Autobot High Council|High Council]]. {{storylink|Matrix of Leadership (episode)|Matrix of Leadership}} Once [[Shadow Striker (Cyberverse)|Shadow Striker]] had captured Optimus Prime, she intended to ship him to Megatron until [[Bumblebee (Cyberverse)|Bumblebee]] freed his leader. {{storylink|Shadowstriker (episode)|Shadowstriker}} Megatron selected [[Drift (Cyberverse)|Deadlock]] to act as a spy for the Decepticons. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron III}} To sell the ruse, Megatron followed him to [[Maccadam&#039;s Old Oil House|Maccadam&#039;s]] where he attempted to slay the traitor to serve as an example to others. Before he could however, [[Maccadam]] stormed into the room and transformed into his monstrous [[alternate mode]], the mere sight of it cowing Megatron into retreating. {{storylink|Maccadam&#039;s}} Over the course of the war, Megatron would meet with Optimus several times to discuss a peaceful resolution to the conflict but the two were unable to come to a satisfactory compromise. {{storylink|Parley}} Megatron also befriended the poetic Decepticon [[Sky-Byte (Cyberverse)|Sky-Byte]]. {{storylink|Infinite Vendetta}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cyberverse Decepticon Plankowners (Cyberverse - Megatron Is My Hero).jpg|thumb|300px|&amp;quot;Imagine seven million people all wanting to die together.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Once the Decepticons had taken [[Vector Sigma]], Megatron sought to use the supercomputer to reprogram the [[AllSpark]] and have it birth a new generation of loyal Decepticons. When Bumblebee discovered this, he was brought before Megatron who sadistically tore out the scout&#039;s [[voice box]] to prevent him from reporting what he&#039;d learned. {{storylink|Megatron Is My Hero}} Despite Megatron&#039;s best efforts, the Autobots did manage to learn of his plan, managing to seize the AllSpark and send it through a [[space bridge]]. {{storylink|Allspark (Cyberverse)|Allspark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the year [[2007]], Megatron tracked the AllSpark to [[Earth]], and sent [[Slipstream (Cyberverse)|Slipstream]]&#039;s [[Seeker (Cyberverse)|Seeker]] squad there to retrieve it. Catching wind of this intel, the Autobots on Cybertron sent [[Windblade (Cyberverse)|Windblade]] to retrieve the artifact first only for her to come across the missing Bumblebee. Upon learning that her friend was suffering from amnesia, the [[cityspeaker]] attempted to use a [[cortical psychic patch]] to help him make sense of his memories. Among them was an undamaged memory of Megatron; however she was unable to access it before the patch malfunctioned and shut her out. {{storylink|Fractured}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Once Windblade had begun making headway in fixing Bumblebee&#039;s mind, the scout began to remember Megatron in the earliest days of his revolution causing him to idealize the Decepticon leader as a hero. With Windblade&#039;s help however, he was able to remember the tyrant Megatron had become, being left to wonder how he could have ever considered the Decepticon someone to look up to. {{storylink|Megatron Is My Hero}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Mad Megs (Cyberverse - Maccadam&#039;s).jpg|thumb|left|300px|&amp;quot;Now back there if you got a problem you tell Wally. And he tells everyone in town, brings it out in the open, no more problem.&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
After Slipstream had consistently failed in her mission, [[Shockwave (Cyberverse)|Shockwave]] hacked into Bumblebee&#039;s cortical psychic patch and trapped the scout in a false memory that painted him as a Decepticon spy aboard the [[Ark (Cyberverse)|&#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039;]] who had sabotaged the ship at Megatron&#039;s direct order. {{storylink|Sabotage}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the [[Decepticon fleet]] invaded Earth, Megatron led the [[Nemesis (Cyberverse)|&#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039;]] to the organic planet. {{storylink|Eruption}} {{storylink|Bad Moon Rising}} The Cybertronians eventually became known to [[human]]kind. During a battle against Windblade, Megatron was caught on camera tripping over a powerline, winning the dubious honor of #3 on [[TOP3WEEKLY]]&#039;s &amp;quot;TOP ROBOT FAILS!!&amp;quot; video. {{storylink|Sea of Tranquility}} During this time, he also dueled Optimus Prime at an industrial complex, their battle being observed by [[Cheetor (Cyberverse)|Cheetor]]. {{storylink|Spotted}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cyberverse - Bad Moon Rising - Megatron Going Tank.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Just kids having fun.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Eventually, Megatron decided that Earth wasn&#039;t worth conquering and ordered a [[Planet Smasher]] built on the [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. When a battle broke out, Megatron first used his tank mode to shoot up the Autobots before Optimus Prime engaged him in melee combat, the Autobot managing to score a nasty gash on Megatron&#039;s right leg, prompting the tyrant to call Starscream for air support. Though his order went unheeded, Megatron managed to escape the battle and make it to the [[force field]]. After tossing Starscream around, he demoted him by making Slipstream the new leader of the [[Seeker (Cyberverse)|Seekers]]. When the Autobots brought down the Planet Smasher&#039;s force field, Megatron ordered the Decepticons to retreat into a lunar bunker. {{storylink|Sea of Tranquility}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the bunker&#039;s control room, Shockwave activated his back-up plan of using [[planetary engine]]s to slam the moon into the Earth so they could find the AllSpark in the debris field. Content with the plan, Megatron tried to order Slipstream to guard the [[Nemesis (Cyberverse)|&#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039;]] before his wound got the better of him. As he tried to get back up, a furious Starscream attacked him, firing all his [[missile]]s at point-blank range before beating the tyrant into [[stasis lock]], ordering that he be left behind when the control room was set to self-destruct. Surviving the explosion, though left heavily charred by it, Megatron made his way back to his flagship and enacted a swift and brutal vengeance against Starscream, ending with him firing the full might of his [[fusion cannon]] at the Seeker&#039;s back, deactivating him. After briefly regarding Starscream&#039;s prone form, he dumped the traitor&#039;s body out onto the lunar surface and ordered the Decepticons away from the moon. {{storylink|Bad Moon Rising}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Ordering his flagship down on an island, Megatron broadcasted a propaganda video to the human race regarding Starscream&#039;s demise, before he offered the position of [[second-in-command]] to whichever one of his troops brought him the head of Optimus Prime. When [[Clobber (Cyberverse)|Clobber]] and [[Lockdown (Cyberverse)|Lockdown]] brought him the bound [[Hot Rod (Cyberverse)|Hot Rod]], Megatron tried to use the Autobot as a bargaining chip with Optimus only for the youth to break free from his bonds and escape the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039;. Though Megatron targeted the Autobot with the onboard weapons, he was distracted by the sight of a creature jumping through a [[GroundBridge]]. {{storylink|Bring Me The Spark Of Optimus Prime}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After every GroundBridge had been mapped, the AllSpark was located in [[Africa]], Megatron stepping through a portal to collect it. Finding not only that his troops had not accompanied him but Optimus waiting for him, Megatron briefly dueled his opposite before they were both greeted by Cheetor, Guardian of the AllSpark who subjected both leaders to the &amp;quot;the trials&amp;quot; to determine who was worthy of the AllSpark. After a failed knowledge trial, Cheetor granted each leader [[spark armor]], Megatron&#039;s formed from a helicopter, and they came to blows. Megatron eventually got the upper hand, pinning Optimus down for execution only for the Prime to hold him at gunpoint, being willing to kill them both. As this happened, no one noticed a still alive Starscream sneak in and steal the AllSpark until it was too late. Though he managed to save face with Optimus, Megatron returned to the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; to commence a search for Starscream. {{storylink|Trials}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As Shockwave tried to locate the missing Vector Sigma, the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; came under attack from the Autobots, Megatron sending out his entire [[drone]] force to meet them. As Megatron dueled Optimus on the hangar deck, Cheetor loudly announced that the AllSpark was not on the ship, forcing Megatron to reveal the truth and cursing Cheetor, whose lunar GroundBridge had healed Starscream&#039;s otherwise fatal injuries. {{storylink|Dark Birth}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreeing to peace talks, Megatron had the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; return to [[Mount St. Hilary]] for negotiations. Despite their soldiers&#039; idiosyncrasies, Megatron and Optimus made initial strides only for discussions to abruptly end when Grimlock threw Shockwave through a wall and onto the negotiation table, Megatron ordering his troops away. {{storylink|Parley}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; returned to its island, it came under attack from Starscream&#039;s [[scraplet]] horde. Fighting his traitorous second on the bridge, Megatron was paralyzed by the beasts but managed to send out a garbled distress signal. When Cheetor defeated Starscream and broke the paralysis, Megatron allowed the Autobots to go free. {{storylink|Starscream&#039;s Children}} As the ship was slowly repaired, Megatron chose to motivate Shockwave to speed up the process by threatening to replace him with Soundwave. Megatron soon came under attack from Shockwave&#039;s severed hand before the scientist himself arrived, presenting Megatron with a [[drone controller]] that he could use to control Starscream&#039;s creatures. {{storylink|Secret Science}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Shockwave explained the perfected drone controller, the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; came under attack from [[Jetfire (Cyberverse)|Jetfire]]. Unamused, Megatron told the bombastic Autobot to go play somewhere else. Soon afterwards, a still alive Sky-Byte arrived, recounting the gloriousness of the civilizations he&#039;d destroyed before requesting the Decepticons&#039; aid to destroy Jetfire (offering Megatron the head). Though an appealing prospect to Megatron, he denied to get involved in favour of continuing their search for the AllSpark. Jetfire soon returned, now clad in spark armor, and abducted Megatron. When Optimus called to reveal he&#039;d had a similar encounter with Sky-Byte, Megatron directed everyone to meet a colosseum. Encouraging the two arch-enemies to settle their feud once and for all, Megatron amusedly watched Jetfire and Sky-Byte kill each other even as their fight unearthed magma deposits. When Jetfire got the upper hand, Megatron encouraged the Autobot to strike the killing blow only for him to retreat back to the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; so that Optimus&#039; wounds could be tended to. As Sky-Byte climbed out of the hole, Megatron held him a gunpoint and forced him to reveal the AllSpark&#039;s location. {{storylink|Infinite Vendetta}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cyberverse I Am The Allspark Megatron.jpg|300px|thumb|left]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When Sky-Byte led the Decepticons back to the GroundBridge nexus, Megatron again found the Autobots had beaten him there before an AllSpark empowered Starscream arrived, arresting everyone&#039;s motor functions and forcing them to bow before him. Unimpressed by the Seeker&#039;s pettiness, Megatron openly mocked his former second&#039;s incompetence and failing streak before the Seeker began extracting all their [[spark]]s. Salvation came when Optimus Prime unleashed the [[Matrix of Leadership]] on Starscream, blasting the AllSpark out of him. Quick to recover, Megatron retrieved the artifact only to be assaulted by the now feral scraplets, losing his hold on it. Megatron soon found himself fighting Grimlock, with their duel destabilizing the chamber. Though Megatron managed to initially kick the Dinobot away and make a last-ditch effort to get the AllSpark he was blindsided by the recovered Grimlock who sent him hurtling down a chasm. {{storylink|I Am The Allspark}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Detecting the launch of several [[Autobot shuttle]]s, Megatron ordered the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; to meet them, deploying several [[Decepticon scout ship]]s to engage the smaller crafts. Though the Autobot ships were quickly destroyed, the AllSpark was not found in their debris field. Fortunately for the Decepticons, Sky-Byte had seen through the ruse and launched a one-bot attack on the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039;, giving the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; enough time to intercept. Ordering the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; destroyed, Megatron unleashed the full might of the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; on its Autobot counterpart only for Cheetor to heal it with the AllSpark allowing the nimbler ship to slip past. To prevent the Autobots from entering Earth&#039;s [[space bridge]], Shockwave used a hard-light [[hologram]] to simulate its destruction, the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; instead rocketing off into deep space. Pleased with Shockwave&#039;s ploy, Megatron ordered the &#039;&#039;Nemesis&#039;&#039; through the portal and to Cybertron. {{storylink|Escape From Earth}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Megatron eventually managed to convert the [[Threshold of the Well]] into his personal fortress and capture [[Chromia (Cyberverse)|Chromia]], forcing her to send out a false distress call to the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; by threatening to offline [[Perceptor (Cyberverse)|Perceptor]]. When the Autobot ship emerged from Cybertron&#039;s space bridge, Megatron praised the Autobot femme before rallying his troops for battle. {{storylink|The Crossroads}} {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron I}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As the &#039;&#039;Ark&#039;&#039; entered the atmosphere, Megatron ordered it destroyed via a [[laser snare]] before the Autobots revealed themselves to still be alive, having anticipated the attack. Ordering the whole of his army into action, Megatron led the charge in the final battle of the Great War, initially providing artillery with [[Alpha Strike]] before he squared off against Optimus. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron II}} Optimus eventually managed to push past Megatron, only for the Prime to discover the scraplet trap that Megatron had laid. Pressing his advantage, Megatron pinned his foe against a wall before he called in upscaled, war-ready versions of [[Shockwave&#039;s drones]] to surround the Autobots. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron III}}&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the Autobots managed to push past the drones, just as they both destroyed Vector Sigma and returned the AllSpark to Cybertron&#039;s core. Though Optimus declared this the end of the Great War, Megatron refused to surrender, and ordered Shockwave to destroy the AllSpark. While Shockwave was able to corrupt the artefact, Cheetor sacrificed himself to re-purify it, bringing life and peace back to Cybertron. Enraged, Megatron lunged at Optimus only to be sent flying back into his own scraplet trap. {{storylink|Battle For Cybertron IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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This would not be the end of Megatron, however. When the [[Quintesson]]s invaded Cybertron, Megatron was among the Transformers captured and subjected to their virtual reality as his spark was drained. Within the simulation, Megatron was Grand Marshal of a parade that celebrated his victory over the Autobots. When [[Dead End (Cyberverse)|Dead End]] broke free, he found Megatron&#039;s body and tried to physically free him from the loop to no avail. {{storylink|The Dead End}} Perceptor managed to free the Cybertronian race by hacking into the parade&#039;s source code and introducing a flock of [[Air Hammer (Cyberverse)|Air Hammers]], everyone retreating from the compound to Maccadam&#039;s. {{storylink|The Scientist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Even after it was found that the Quintessons were draining the AllSpark to gestate their new [[Judge (Cyberverse)|Judge]], Megatron refused to fight alongside the Autobots. {{storylink|The Alliance}} Sulking in [[Iaconus]]&#039;s stasis hold, Megatron was approached by Dead End who brought news that the Quintessons had the technology to traverse the [[multiverse]]. Eager to steal the [[multiverse drive]] and conquer other realities, Megatron joined in the attack on the Quintesson ship. When the group found the drive, they were confronted by the Scientist whom Megatron promptly shot dead only for the alien to reveal multiple backup bodies. Contemptuously blasting a path through them all, Megatron led [[Wheeljack (Cyberverse)|Wheeljack]] and Dead End to the Judge&#039;s escape ship where the two Decepticons threw out the Autobot before sailing away into the multiverse. {{storylink|The Judge (episode)|The Judge}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Travelling eternity, Megatron reformatted himself into a Cybertronian vehicle mode and gained the ability to manipulate exotic energy. {{storylink|The End Of The Universe IV}} In one universe, Megatron encountered [[Megatron X (Cyberverse)|a version of himself]] that had won the Great War. Horrified by his counterpart, Megatron stole his Matrix of Leadership, losing an optic in the process, and fled back to his native reality with his counterpart&#039;s servants, [[Astrotrain (Cyberverse)|Astrotrain]] and the [[Insecticon (Cyberverse)|Insecticons]]. {{storylink|Silent Strike}} Arriving back home to find that Starscream was the new Quintesson Judge, Megatron combined the power of his stolen Matrix with its local counterpart, their energy overwhelming Starscream and finally killing him. Knowing that his alternate self would come looking for him, Megatron declared a ceasefire and ordered the Autobots to one half of Cybertron while he and his forces would occupy the other. {{storylink|The End Of The Universe IV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As Megatron began his preparations for the arrival of &amp;quot;the Other One&amp;quot;, Bumblebee and [[Whirl (Cyberverse)|Whirl]] were discovered in Decepticon territory. Though Megatron was ready to execute them for this, Optimus pointed out that the Decepticons&#039; holding of Windblade constituted its own treaty violation. Not having the time to deal with this, Megatron agreed to release the Autobots. {{storylink|Enemy Line}} When the former Autobot [[Wildwheel]] began making his way through Decepticon territory, Megatron confronted him when he caused a ruckus while riding on [[Kickback (Cyberverse)|Kickback]]. Hearing that Wildwheel wanted Optimus, Megatron led him to the border, across which he could find his former commander, and offered the turncoat a spot in the Decepticons. If he survived. {{storylink|Wild Wild Wheel}} To make ready for the coming fight, Megatron assigned Dead End and Astrotrain to construct a weapon capable of blasting its targets to [[Transwarp|unspace]]. {{storylink|Rack &#039;n&#039; Ruin &#039;n&#039; Ratchet}}&lt;br /&gt;
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As the battle neared, Megatron attempted to have the spirits of the alternate [[Thirteen]] aid him to no avail. Despite acquiring a handheld version of the dimensional ray from Astrotrain, the Insecticons had decided to cut their losses and fled Cybertron. Returning to the control room, Megatron ordered the dimensional shields raised when the Other One&#039;s [[Perfect Decepticon]]s began teleporting in. Soon afterwards, the Autobots arrived, Optimus claiming that Megatron&#039;s Matrix had to be destroyed only for the tyrant to call in his favour for aid before the master race of Decepticons materialized. {{storylink|Silent Strike}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After explaining that the invaders were Perfect Decepticons albeit under the command of the Other One, Megatron bestowed multiversal energy on his troops, allowing them to defeat the invaders. When another wave teleported in, Megatron blasted them to unspace using his personal dimensional ray. Lowering his guard, Megatron was then attacked by the Other One when he arrived. Disarmed of his new weapon, he was mortally wounded by his stronger counterpart, who soon telekinetically ripped the Matrix from his body, deactivating him. Megatrons last words were an encouragment towards Optimus to defeat his alternate self. {{storylink|The Other One}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====Alternate universes====&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;See [[Megatron X (Cyberverse)|Megatron X]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Games==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Transformers: Battlegrounds&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Marc Thompson]] (English)|[[Marc Bretonnière]] (French), [[Peter Reinhardt]] (German), [[Roberto Draghetti]] (Italian), [[Jose Ignacio Baliño]] (Spanish)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Cyberverse===&lt;br /&gt;
====Tiny Turbo Changers====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Tiny Turbo Changers, 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Series&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;1, 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Bag Code&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;J&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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: Released in Series 1 of &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; [[Tiny Turbo Changers]], Megatron changes from  a stubby little tank to a robot in a few steps. Like many of his other toys, he features an &amp;quot;energon mace&amp;quot; molded in place of his left hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Megatron was also released in Series 2 of the line without changes.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Scout Class====&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TF-Cyberverse-Scout-Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You call that a tank?]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Scout Class, [[2018]])&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Action Attack&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Fusion Mace&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]&#039;&#039; Scout Class Megatron is a Scout scale toy that transforms from a robot to &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;a robot sitting down&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; a &amp;quot;transformational&amp;quot; mode in six easy steps. His Action Attack gimmick causes an [[Energon mace]] to pop out of his right arm when triggered.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Prototype photos depict him having a silver painted body which are not featured in the final product.&lt;br /&gt;
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====1-Step Changers====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cyberverse-2018-One-Step-Changer-Megatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Now THIS is a tank!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (1-Step Changer, 2018)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Released as part of the second wave of the &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; [[Transformers: Cyberverse (toyline)#1-Step Changers|One-Step changers]], this Megatron is an all-new mold, sharing a similar transformation scheme with the [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#OneStepROTF|One-Step changer Megatron toy]] from [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)|the &#039;&#039;Age of Extinction&#039;&#039; toyline]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TF-Cyberverse-One-Step-Megatron-(New).jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (1-Step Changer, 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese Name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Turbo Change Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese Release Date&#039;&#039;: August [[2019]]&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;TCV-08&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Action Attack&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Fusion Mega Shot&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: Missile&lt;br /&gt;
:A second mold for One-Step Changer Megatron features an Action Attack which extends - but does not launch - a red blast effect from his cannon. His transformation consists of flipping his tank rear to the front to release his arms and chest. Inexplicably a large part of this mechanism on his underside is painted silver while the rest of the figure is flat grey plastic. It&#039;s possible this is due to the fact it was cast in the same red plastic as his cannon parts.&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (1-Step Changer, 2020)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Action Attack&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Fusion Mega Shot&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:This Megatron is an extensive retool of the original &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; One-Step Changer, transforming into a Cybertronian tank as seen in the third season. The retooling includes a duel fusion cannon action attack, which slings both tank mode barrels over his shoulders and into firing position.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Warrior Class====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cyberverse-Warrior-Megatron.jpg|thumb|300px|&amp;quot;The funnelweb spider can kill a man in eight seconds, just by lookin&#039; at him!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Warrior Class, 2018)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Action Attack&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Fusion Mace&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; Warrior Class Megatron is a Deluxe-sized mold that transforms from tank to robot mode in 9 steps. Pushing the switch on his back raises his left arm while activating his launching &amp;quot;Fusion Mace&amp;quot; gimmick, which launches his flail with a short string, which must be retracted manually. Due to the simplified transformation, Megatron&#039;s arms end up sticking out from his tank mode, and his hips &amp;amp; thighs are visible at the front, making his crotch &#039;&#039;vulnerable&#039;&#039; in vehicle mode.&lt;br /&gt;
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: His lower legs have a tendency to fall off, as they are held in with nearly flat plastic nubs. The red paint on his mace arm has a tendency to flake with transformations, as does the black paint on the back of his hips.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:TF-Cyberverse-2018-BCA-Warrior-Cybertronian-Megatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron (Cybertronian Mode)&#039;&#039;&#039; (Warrior Class, 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Action Attack&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Fusion Mace&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:This Warrior Class Megatron is a redeco/retool of the figure above, featuring Cybertronian-based parts (mostly on the legs), and a double-barreled Fusion Cannon for extra firepower, which results in his vehicle mode resembling [[Brawl (WFC)|&#039;&#039;War for Cybertron&#039;&#039; Brawl]]&#039;s tank form. Deco-wise, his thighs, and the Action Attack switch are molded in black plastic, and he features additional pink paint apps on his torso and arms. &lt;br /&gt;
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:As with current Transformers toys, this item is first released at Hong Kong Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us shops before Hasbro would announce them.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Ultimate Class====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF-Cyberverse-Ultimate-Class-Megatron.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|No wonder you have so many accidents around here, the steering wheel&#039;s on the wrong side of the tank!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Ultimate Class, 2018/2019)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese Name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Fusion Cannon Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese Release Date&#039;&#039;: July [[2019]]&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;TCV-07&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Action Attack&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Fusion Mega Shot&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; Ultimate Class Megatron is a roughly Leader Class-sized toy that transforms from a heavily G1-inspired robot to tank in around eleven steps. He comes with a  &amp;quot;Fusion Mega Shot&amp;quot; Action Attack gimmick,&amp;lt;ref name=io9&amp;gt;[https://io9.gizmodo.com/these-new-transformers-cyberverse-figures-are-fantastic-1823007404 These New Transformers Cyberverse Figures Are Fantastic Callbacks to the Original &#039;80s Toys] at io9.gizmodo.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which unfolds the cannon into an elongated pink barrel when the button to his left is pushed, reminiscent of a similar attack used by [[Megatron (Movie)|his live action counterpart]]. Additionally, he has an autotransforming head reveal activated when his waist is swing down, though his arms still need to be in turret mode for it to work correctly. Due to this feature, he has no neck swivel, despite the depiction in his stock render.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Megatron is unusual for his size in lacking elbows. Otherwise, he features ratcheted swivels and outward hinges in his hips, hinged knees, and shoulders with forward and lateral joints. Despite his Fusion Cannon being permanently attached to his arm, his right fist still has a covered-up hole for 5 mm pegs. Due to his transformation scheme, Megatron can also achieve a &amp;quot;transformational mode&amp;quot; like his Scout Class toy.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Unfortunately, some of the hips&#039; ratcheting gear teeth had a tendency to snap off after many poses, which also forces Megatron to slightly lean forward, especially when he&#039;s in his Action Attack position.&lt;br /&gt;
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:This toy is one of the items that was released as part of Hasbro&#039;s Transformers 35th Anniversary promotional mailer box.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://news.tfw2005.com/2019/05/21/transformers-35th-anniversary-promo-box-in-hand-388546&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Megatron also saw a re-release in the third wave.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Elite Class====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF-Cyberverse-Elite-Class-Megatron.jpg|upright=2|thumb|Figure comes with corpse of &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; Spinister.]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Elite Class, 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese Name&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;Battle Rotor Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese Release Date&#039;&#039;: October ???, [[2019]]&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;TCV-19&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Spark Armor&#039;&#039;: Chopper Cut&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; Elite Class Megatron is a smaller, Warrior Class-sized, less Action Attack-laden new mold with more articulation that transforms from robot to a tank that is evocative of his Warrior Class toy, complete with &#039;&#039;vulnerable robot mode crotch&#039;&#039; in tank mode. He comes with his signature Fusion Cannon and a &amp;quot;[[Chopper Cut]]&amp;quot; Spark Armor accessory that is modeled after an attack chopper that can form battle armor in robot mode. Like all Elite Class toys, the accessory also comes with a unique built-in helmet. When flipping down the piece with the alternate head while attaching the Spark Armor, a spring-loaded gimmick is activated causing the propeller to spin and two additional arms to flip out, one with a built-in mace and the other you can attach the included Fusion Cannon to. This configuration causes the original robot arms to dangle awkwardly at the sides, but this can be remedied by bending the arms at the elbows to a 45-degree angle and rotating the lower arms until the fists point straight towards the back, streamlining the look of the armored robot mode. Much like the later Deluxe Class figure below, Megatron himself has a removable Fusion Cannon.&lt;br /&gt;
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:In November 2019, Megatron was released as one of TakaraTomy Mall&#039;s &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Christmas Set&amp;quot; offers along with Grimlock.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Deluxe Class====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TF-Cyberverse-2018-Deluxe-Class-Megatron.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|[http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Transformers Rad, Rad Robotank]]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Deluxe Class, 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Build-a-Figure part&#039;&#039;: Maccadam&#039;s torso&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese Release Date&#039;&#039;: [[August]] [[2020]]&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID Number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;02&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: Fusion Cannon, 2-piece effect part, 2 missile pods.&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Action Attack&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Fusion Mega Shot&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Released as part of the &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; [[Transformers: Cyberverse (toyline)#Deluxe Class|Deluxe Class]] lineup, this Megatron is a show-accurate mold that is more poseable than most of his previous releases. He also comes with an 2-piece effect part that is compatible with his Fusion Cannon and 2 missile pods that go on his turret sides and the sides of his legs.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Megatron suffers from a number of design flaws: Some of his joints are loose (notably the head), while the arms and legs are prone to popping off during transformation. Early prototypes of the figure, as well as some promotional renders, gave him a smug-looking smirk while the final figure has a more neutral expression.&lt;br /&gt;
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:In Japan, Megatron was released as a TakaraTomy Mall exclusive. The catalog reveals that he was intended to be sold for the regular markets (hence the &amp;quot;TCV-29&amp;quot; ID Number) with a February 2020 release date. Like the rest of the figures, he is released in a windowless, monochrome packaging.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Battle Call====&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Battle Call Trooper, 2020)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: Fusion cannon, body armor, scythe, blade weapon, &lt;br /&gt;
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:Released as part of the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]&#039;&#039;&#039;s Battle Call subline, the Trooper Class Megatron is a roughly deluxe-sized figure and can transform into a Cybertronian tank. This toy&#039;s transformation scheme and engineering are based on Megatron&#039;s Deluxe class toy, but simplified a bit. Unusual for a toy of this size, the tank mode does not feature any rolling wheels.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Like his sub-line&#039;s brethren, Megatron features a &amp;quot;Battle Call&amp;quot; voice-activated gimmick, wherein if you flip the on-switch on his shoulder and shout really loud at him (or just blow on his torso), the electronic light in his chest glows slightly brighter and sometimes flashes. His armor&#039;s helmet is molded to resemble Galvatron. He includes two blades that can fold down into scythes, and a green arm blade that can be mounted on 5 mm ports on his body (with a gnarly skull molded into it). The scythe weapons can also be connected to the arm blade to form a larger weapon/ornament that attaches to his fusion canon.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Buzzworthy Bumblebee&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (2021)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Spark Armor&#039;&#039;: Chopper Cut&lt;br /&gt;
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:Elite Class Megatron and Chopper Cut were re-released as part of the cross-&#039;&#039;Generations&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039; subline, with no notable changes.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Merchandise==&lt;br /&gt;
===McDonalds===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal Toy, 2018)&lt;br /&gt;
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*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Happy Meal Toy, 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
:As a second Happy Meal promotion for &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039;, Megatron is a 4-inch-tall non-transforming figure with articulation at the hips and arms. As an [[Action Master]]-esque play feature, he includes a small helicopter (reminiscent of his Elite Class toy, albeit in grey rather than purple) that can be separated from its propeller and reattached into various pins around his body as weapons or pieces of armor.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Burger King===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (Burger King Toy, 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oddly enough released just one month before the aforementioned Happy Meal toy, Burger King&#039;s take on Megatron is a non-transforming figure that also looks rather reminiscent to his Elite Class toy with the inclusion of some purple helicopter parts and a detachable propeller on his back. His hips and arms are articulated, making him the only one of the four &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; Burger King figures with all three points of articulation being independently available.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Quidd-evergreen-Megatron-robot-mode.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3]]&lt;br /&gt;
*As with some of the &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; cast, Megatron&#039;s design is based on the [[evergreen]] design (at right) also used for his [[Megatron (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]], with some minor stylistic tweaks.&lt;br /&gt;
*Megatron speaks with a peculiar accent, somewhere between Irish and American. Perhaps this is the [[Tarn (polity)|Tarnian]] accent his [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|IDW incarnation]] was known for?&lt;br /&gt;
*Megatron&#039;s mace on the toys are pink, similar to [[:File:Mtmte2 shermandam.jpg|the Generation 1 cartoon&#039;s purple]]. The actual cartoon coloration in &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039;, however, is red. This is similar to how on Optimus Prime&#039;s toys his axe is coloured orange, but in the cartoon is actually blue.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Japanese dub gives &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; Megatron a similar personality to the Japanese dub version of &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]. Unsurprising, considering they&#039;re voiced by the same guy. This could be deliberate, as the Japanese dub of Optimus Prime is voiced by the Japanese dub actor of [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]].&lt;br /&gt;
*An unproduced concept saw Megatron&#039;s left forearm open into a large blaster.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign names===&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Japanese:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Megatron&#039;&#039;&#039; (メガトロン &#039;&#039;Megatoron&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Mandarin:&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;&#039;Wēi Zhèn Tīan&#039;&#039;&#039; (China, 威震天, &amp;quot;Extremely Prestigious&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Heaven-shaking Might&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
{{OtherVersions&lt;br /&gt;
 |charname=Megatron&lt;br /&gt;
 |disambig=Megatron (disambiguation)&lt;br /&gt;
 |body=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], the evil Decepticon leader from [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]], the less-than-proactive six-changer Predacon leader from [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]], the cosmically power-hungry Decepticon leader from the [[Unicron Trilogy]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the violent and murderous Decepticon leader from the [[live-action film series]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], the cruel but suave tyrant from &#039;&#039;[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]], the evil and sadistic Decepticon leader from the [[Aligned continuity family]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Gladiators]]&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Grimlock_(RID_2015)&amp;diff=1409131</id>
		<title>Talk:Grimlock (RID 2015)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;===Rescue Bots Academy?===&lt;br /&gt;
So, what do we do with [https://news.tfw2005.com/2019/05/09/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-new-stock-images-academy-rescue-team-4-pack-and-rescan-assortment-new-rescan-grimlock-toy-387997#images &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots Academy&#039;&#039; Grimlock], previewed [https://www.seibertron.com/events/fullsize.php?event_id=621&amp;amp;size=2&amp;amp;image=0 at Toy Fair]? Since he doesn&#039;t obviously correspond to either &#039;&#039;RID&#039;&#039; (2015) or &#039;&#039;FOC&#039;&#039; Grimlock, do we just give him his own page as a &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;toy-only&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; separate character until we find out otherwise? [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 06:53, 9 May 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:He&#039;s not a toy-only character. He&#039;s been in the show&#039;s intro since the start. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 08:29, 9 May 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Okay, but the question still stands. [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: His characterization seems to be more in line with FOC, given he&#039;s shown to be old friends with other FOC Dinobots. I suggest we move him to FOC Grimlock. {{unsigned|Drift2341156887}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::No. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 02:00, 9 May 2020 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
RBA Grimlock is RID Grimlock. He has the same basic personality, he explicitly references events and characters from RID, name-dropping Scowl and Underbite in his debut episodes. It&#039;s not ambiguous at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 09:06, 9 May 2020 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1381923</id>
		<title>Main Page/featured-series</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1381923"/>
		<updated>2019-12-02T15:51:13Z</updated>

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[[File:Bumblebeelogo.jpg|250px|link=Bumblebee (franchise)]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cyberverse 2018 logo.png|200px|link=Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[I Am The Allspark]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Escape From Earth]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Transformers- Rescue Bots Academy logo.jpg|100px|link=Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Best Bots Forever Part 1]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Best Bots Forever Part 2]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:IDW Transformers Jan 2019 logo.png|225px|link=IDW Publishing]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; #14: &amp;quot;[[The Change In Your Nature Part Two]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Galaxies|Galaxies]]&#039;&#039; #3: &amp;quot;[[Constructicons Rising, Part 3]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1379860</id>
		<title>Main Page/featured-series</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1379860"/>
		<updated>2019-11-17T14:31:07Z</updated>

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[[File:Bumblebeelogo.jpg|250px|link=Bumblebee (franchise)]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cyberverse 2018 logo.png|200px|link=Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Spotted]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Secret Science]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Transformers- Rescue Bots Academy logo.jpg|100px|link=Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Flying Hunk-A-Junk]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Into the Depths]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:IDW Transformers Jan 2019 logo.png|225px|link=IDW Publishing]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; #14: &amp;quot;[[The Change In Your Nature Part Two]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Galaxies|Galaxies]]&#039;&#039; #2: &amp;quot;[[Constructicons Rising, Part 2]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Main Page/featured-series</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1372637"/>
		<updated>2019-09-28T15:22:19Z</updated>

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[[File:Bumblebeelogo.jpg|250px|link=Bumblebee (franchise)]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cyberverse 2018 logo.png|200px|link=Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Bring Me The Spark Of Optimus Prime]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Trials]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Transformers- Rescue Bots Academy logo.jpg|100px|link=Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Tyrannosaurus Wrecked]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Dino Hard]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:IDW Transformers Jan 2019 logo.png|225px|link=IDW Publishing]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; #12: &amp;quot;[[Nautica: Home]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Galaxies]]&#039;&#039; #1: &amp;quot;[[Constructicons Rising, Part 1]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers/Ghostbusters]]&#039;&#039; #4: &amp;quot;[[Ghosts of Cybertron Part 4]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Main Page/featured-series</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1371756"/>
		<updated>2019-09-22T02:56:11Z</updated>

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[[File:Bumblebeelogo.jpg|250px|link=Bumblebee (franchise)]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cyberverse 2018 logo.png|200px|link=Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[The Visitor]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Bring Me The Spark Of Optimus Prime]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;[[Hack Attack]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Life of the Party]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; #12: &amp;quot;[[Nautica: Home]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[[Transformers/Ghostbusters]]&#039;&#039; #4: &amp;quot;[[Ghosts of Cybertron Part 4]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Transformers &#039;84 issue 0|&#039;&#039;Transformers &#039;84&#039;&#039; #0]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Main Page/featured-series</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1370786"/>
		<updated>2019-09-15T21:29:55Z</updated>

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[[File:Bumblebeelogo.jpg|250px|link=Bumblebee (franchise)]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cyberverse 2018 logo.png|200px|link=Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Bad Moon Rising]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[The Visitor]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;[[Balloon Up a Tree]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[The Mystery of Dragon Mountain]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; #11: &amp;quot;[[The Cracks Beneath Your Feet Part Five]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;[[Transformers/Ghostbusters]]&#039;&#039; #4: &amp;quot;[[Ghosts of Cybertron Part 4]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Transformers &#039;84 issue 0|&#039;&#039;Transformers &#039;84&#039;&#039; #0]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Bring_Me_The_Spark_Of_Optimus_Prime&amp;diff=1368105</id>
		<title>Talk:Bring Me The Spark Of Optimus Prime</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-31T13:03:39Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;This appears to be the correct spelling for the title as shown on the episode itself, despite it not being standard title formatting. We should still keep the episode here, I think. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:02, 24 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Uh, the episode&#039;s title as I&#039;m looking at it right now is &amp;quot;Bring Me The &#039;&#039;&#039;Spark&#039;&#039;&#039; Of Optimus Prime.&amp;quot; Spark, not head, is also the line Megatron says in the ep itself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:07, 30 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmm...the title might differ between regions. We should wait for the US broadcast and go with whatever that version uses. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:16, 31 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The screenshot I saw definitely said &amp;quot;Head&amp;quot;, so I&#039;m very confused. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 02:43, 31 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Are the titles we have now not just translations of foreign ones? Like I&#039;d be surprised if an English-language TF episode called itself &amp;quot;Starscream&#039;s Children.&amp;quot; - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 07:09, 31 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Trying to avoid spoilers here but having seen through episode six that title makes perfect sense. &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 09:01, 31 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Bring_Me_The_Spark_Of_Optimus_Prime&amp;diff=1368104</id>
		<title>Talk:Bring Me The Spark Of Optimus Prime</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-31T13:01:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This appears to be the correct spelling for the title as shown on the episode itself, despite it not being standard title formatting. We should still keep the episode here, I think. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:02, 24 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Uh, the episode&#039;s title as I&#039;m looking at it right now is &amp;quot;Bring Me The &#039;&#039;&#039;Spark&#039;&#039;&#039; Of Optimus Prime.&amp;quot; Spark, not head, is also the line Megatron says in the ep itself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:07, 30 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hmm...the title might differ between regions. We should wait for the US broadcast and go with whatever that version uses. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 00:16, 31 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The screenshot I saw definitely said &amp;quot;Head&amp;quot;, so I&#039;m very confused. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 02:43, 31 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Are the titles we have now not just translations of foreign ones? Like I&#039;d be surprised if an English-language TF episode called itself &amp;quot;Starscream&#039;s Children.&amp;quot; - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 07:09, 31 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Uh, trying to avoid spoilers here but having seen through episode six that title makes perfect sense. &lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 09:01, 31 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Transformers:_Cyberverse_(cartoon)&amp;diff=1368057</id>
		<title>Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-31T03:18:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{disambig2|the 2018 animated series|the 2011 toyline|Cyberverse (toyline)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{nav-cyberverse}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cyberverse show promo image.jpg|thumb|right|upright=2.4|&amp;quot;This, Bumblebee, is my archive of all the experiences you&#039;ve begged me to remove from your life. I call them &#039;Bumblebee&#039;s Mind Blowers&#039;!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Cyberverse&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a [[computer-generated imagery|computer-animated]] series developed by [[Boulder Media Studio]]. It debuted on the [[Cartoon Network]] app and website on [[August 27]], [[2018]], and made its television premiere on Cartoon Network on [[September 1]], 2018. The story is divided into chapters: Chapter One ran for 18 episodes in 2018, while a second chapter is targeted for a late [[2019]] release. Unlike nearly every prior &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; TV series, episodes are only 11 minutes in length as opposed to 22 minutes.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The series focuses on the adventures of [[Bumblebee (Cyberverse)|Bumblebee]]; having damaged his memory chips, he and [[Windblade (Cyberverse)|Windblade]] must recover his missing memories in order to help him remember his mission on [[Earth]]. Unfortunately, the [[Decepticon]]s are after their friends.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://comicbook.com/2017/10/14/transformers-cyberverse-animated-first-look/ Exclusive: Your First Look At The New Transformers: Cyberverse Animated Series]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The series is intended to &amp;quot;focus more on characters and their mythology&amp;quot; and utilizes the &amp;quot;[[evergreen]]&amp;quot; character designs. It is set in a new continuity and is not a sequel to any previous series.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Storyline==&lt;br /&gt;
During the war on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)|Optimus Prime]] and a team including Bumblebee have left the planet to search for the [[AllSpark]]. The [[Decepticon]]s catch wind that the ancient artifact is on [[Earth]], and leave to investigate, which forces Windblade to take a one-way [[space bridge]] journey there herself. Unable to find any trace of the [[Ark (Cyberverse)|Ark]] or Optimus Prime, she manages to find her old friend Bumblebee. However, he is suffering from amnesia and has no recollection of who he is or how he got there. With the pair being pursued relentlessly by Decepticons, Windblade must help Bumblebee unlock and repair his damaged memories of the war and his journey to Earth so that they can locate Optimus and the AllSpark before their enemies do.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Main cast==&lt;br /&gt;
(Recurring characters only.)&lt;br /&gt;
{{Featuredcharacters&lt;br /&gt;
|c1=&lt;br /&gt;
;Main Cast&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bumblebee (Cyberverse)|Bumblebee]] ([[Jeremy Levy]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Windblade (Cyberverse)|Windblade]] ([[Sophia Isabella]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Jake Tillman]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Grimlock (Cyberverse)|Grimlock]] ([[Ryan Andes]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Other Recurring&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ratchet (Cyberverse)|Ratchet]] ([[Todd Perlmutter]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wheeljack (Cyberverse)|Wheeljack]] ([[Billy Bob Thompson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hot Rod (Cyberverse)|Hot Rod]] ([[Travis Artz]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chromia (Cyberverse)|Chromia]] ([[Latonia Phipps]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prowl (Cyberverse)|Prowl]] ([[Dick Terhune]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin (Cyberverse)|Rack&#039;n&#039;Ruin]] (Jeremy Levy)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Perceptor (Cyberverse)|Perceptor]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Arcee (Cyberverse)|Arcee]] ([[Jaime Lamchick]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Cheetor (Cyberverse)|Cheetor]] ([[TJ Nelson]])&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--*[[Jetfire (Cyberverse)|Jetfire]] (Jeremy Levy)--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c2=&lt;br /&gt;
;Main Antagonists&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Megatron (Cyberverse)|Megatron]] ([[Marc Thompson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Starscream (Cyberverse)|Starscream]] (Billy Bob Thompson)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shockwave (Cyberverse)|Shockwave]] (Ryan Andes)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shadow Striker (Cyberverse)|Shadow Striker]] ([[Deanna McGovern]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
;Other Recurring&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Soundwave (Cyberverse)|Soundwave]] ([[Marc Swint]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Slipstream (Cyberverse)|Slipstream]] ([[Lianne Marie Dobbs]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thundercracker (Cyberverse)|Thundercracker]] ([[Ben Bott]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Nova Storm (Cyberverse)|Nova Storm]] ([[Saskia Marx]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Acid Storm (Cyberverse)|Acid Storm]] (Jaime Lamchick)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Thrust (Cyberverse)|Thrust]] ([[Tomas Virgadula]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ramjet (Cyberverse)|Ramjet]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Drift (Cyberverse)|Deadlock]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Shockwave&#039;s drones]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lockdown (Cyberverse)|Lockdown]] ([[Mike Rose]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clobber (Cyberverse)|Clobber]] (Saskia Marx)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bludgeon (Cyberverse)|Bludgeon]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--*[[Sky-Byte (Cyberverse)|Sky-Byte]]--&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
|c4=&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Teletraan-1 (Cyberverse)|Teletraan-1]] (Mike Rose)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Teletraan-X (Cyberverse)|Teletraan-X]] (Mike Rose)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Maccadam]] (Dick Terhune)&lt;br /&gt;
|nonumbering=true}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Episodes==&lt;br /&gt;
===Chapter One (2018)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{collist|3|&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Fractured]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Memory (Cyberverse)|Memory]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Allspark (Cyberverse)|Allspark]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[The Journey]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Whiteout]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Megatron Is My Hero]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Cube (episode)|Cube]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Terminal Velocity]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Shadowstriker]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Maccadam&#039;s]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Sabotage]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Teletraan-X (episode)|Teletraan-X]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Matrix of Leadership (episode)|Matrix of Leadership]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Siloed]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[King of the Dinosaurs]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[The Extinction Event]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Awaken Sleeping Giants]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Eruption]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Chapter Two: Power of the Spark (2019)===&lt;br /&gt;
{{collist|3|&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Sea of Tranquility]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Bad Moon Rising]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[The Visitor]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Bring Me The Head Of Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)|Bring Me The Head Of Optimus Prime]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Trials]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Dark Birth]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Parley]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Starscream&#039;s Children]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Spotted]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Secret Science]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Infinite Vendetta]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[I Am The Allspark]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Japanese Release==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Transformers_Cyberverse_Japanese_Press_Release.jpg|thumb|upright=2.4]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{stub}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; draws some concepts from the &#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039; film, released a few months after &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; debuted; in particular, the plot point of Bumblebee&#039;s amnesia is lifted directly from the film, as is the &amp;quot;honeycomb&amp;quot; design of Bumblebee&#039;s internal readouts.&lt;br /&gt;
*The show&#039;s premiere episodes, &amp;quot;[[Fractured]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;[[Memory (Cyberverse)|Memory]],&amp;quot; were both put up on Cartoon Network&#039;s mobile app and website several days before their U.S. television premiere. All subsequent episodes of the show were uploaded the day before they were aired on television, followed by a release on Hasbro&#039;s YouTube channel the day after, region-locked to United States users; following a weekend without any videos due to American Thanksgiving, the YouTube release moved to the &#039;&#039;next&#039;&#039; Sunday after airing starting with episode 13. Cartoon Network&#039;s app/website split each episode into two separate parts, each with a generic title card, and were numbered as such.&lt;br /&gt;
*While the first season was aired at a rate of one episode per week in the United States, in Canada, &#039;&#039;two&#039;&#039; episodes aired every week in a half-hour block. Consequently, &amp;quot;[[Megatron Is My Hero]]&amp;quot; through &amp;quot;[[Maccadam&#039;s]]&amp;quot; all premiered on Canadian television ahead of their US broadcasts. In fact, the entire rest of the first season was initially scheduled to debut in Canada over the following weeks, but it was all pulled and replaced with re-runs, presumably because someone US-side didn&#039;t like how far ahead they were getting! However, the show still couldn&#039;t catch a break, as the next two episodes premiered on the Xfinity X1 service more than two weeks before they aired on television, with the remaining Chapter One episodes each airing in Singapore at least a week ahead of their US broadcast. This unfortunate scheduling continued during Chapter Two&#039;s broadcast, with the season premiering in France two weeks ahead of its US broadcast and airing at a rate of four new episodes each weekend.&lt;br /&gt;
*With the exception of a kid in &amp;quot;[[Teletraan-X (episode)|Teletraan-X]]&amp;quot;, modern day Earth in &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; is almost completely devoid of humans.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNXV9Mb7egjGaHNJzo0ed7muDDKJ5rhA0 &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;Transformers Cyberverse&#039;&#039;: Animated Shorts&amp;quot; playlist on Hasbro&#039;s YouTube channel] (US only)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/transformers-cyberverse/ &#039;&#039;Transformers Cyberverse&#039;&#039; episodes on Cartoon Network&#039;s website] (US only)&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhWipIfRhqz0_k6ZEWjs4icCnSOVcZUBq &#039;&#039;Transformers Cyberverse&#039;&#039; playlist on TakaraTomy&#039;s YouTube channel] (JP only)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://news.tfw2005.com/2017/08/03/tfw2005-coverage-hasbro-media-investor-day-2017-346226 &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039; first teased at Hasbro Media And Investor Day 2017]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Cyberverse}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cyberverse (2018)| (cartoon)]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Television series]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Bring_Me_The_Spark_Of_Optimus_Prime&amp;diff=1368056</id>
		<title>Talk:Bring Me The Spark Of Optimus Prime</title>
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		<updated>2019-08-31T03:09:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This appears to be the correct spelling for the title as shown on the episode itself, despite it not being standard title formatting. We should still keep the episode here, I think. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:02, 24 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Uh, the episode&#039;s title as I&#039;m looking at it right now is &amp;quot;Bring Me The &#039;&#039;&#039;Spark&#039;&#039;&#039; Of Optimus Prime.&amp;quot; Spark, not head, is also the line Megatron says in the ep itself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:07, 30 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Bring_Me_The_Spark_Of_Optimus_Prime&amp;diff=1368055</id>
		<title>Talk:Bring Me The Spark Of Optimus Prime</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Bring_Me_The_Spark_Of_Optimus_Prime&amp;diff=1368055"/>
		<updated>2019-08-31T03:07:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This appears to be the correct spelling for the title as shown on the episode itself, despite it not being standard title formatting. We should still keep the episode here, I think. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 00:02, 24 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Uh, the episode&#039;s title as I&#039;m looking at it right now is &amp;quot;Bring Me The &#039;&#039;&#039;Spark&#039;&#039;&#039; of Optimus Prime.&amp;quot; Spark, not head, is also the line Megatron says in the ep itself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 23:07, 30 August 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Trenchfoot&amp;diff=1356406</id>
		<title>Talk:Trenchfoot</title>
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		<updated>2019-06-26T23:21:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;I believe Trenchfoot is [[Pinpointer (G1)]], Crosshair&#039;s Targetmaster. Both have a yellow visor, turn into double barreled guns, have dark grey legs, and red torsos. The yellow visor and two barrels puts this over the similarly colored [[Peacemaker]]. Another pointer is that in the Decepticon Phantomstrike Squadron set, one of the Targetmasters belongs to Spinister. This almost perfectly mirrors if Trenchfoot was Pinpointer, as Spinister and Crosshairs are in the same wave, and they both have their respective targetmaster in opposing mulitpacks that are meant to be paired up. [[User:Notirishman|--notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 13:57, 26 June 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Agreed&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:FireChief420|FireChief420]] ([[User talk:FireChief420|talk]]) 17:01, 26 June 2019 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:I &#039;&#039;suspect&#039;&#039; this is true, but I don&#039;t there&#039;s enough evidence right now to definitively make this case on the wiki. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 19:21, 26 June 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>KilMichaelMcC</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1331018</id>
		<title>Main Page/featured-series</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1331018"/>
		<updated>2019-03-16T14:47:48Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;div align=&amp;quot;center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{|cellpadding=&amp;quot;5&amp;quot; cellspacing=&amp;quot;0&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Bumblebeelogo.jpg|250px|link=Bumblebee (franchise)]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Digital release&#039;&#039;&#039;: March 19 — &#039;&#039;&#039;DVD/Blu-Ray release&#039;&#039;&#039;: April 2&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cyberverse 2018 logo.png|200px|link=Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Eruption]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:IDW Transformers Jan 2019 logo.png|225px|link=IDW Publishing]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers (2019 comic)|Transformers]]&#039;&#039; issue #1: &amp;quot;[[The World In Your Eyes Part One]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;noinclude&amp;gt;[[Category:Main Page templates]]&amp;lt;/noinclude&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:Derik</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;=Archive=&lt;br /&gt;
My complete user talk history (including archived years) is viewable at: [[User talk:Derik/Archive]]. &lt;br /&gt;
=[[User_Talk:Derik/2006|2006]] (Archived)=&lt;br /&gt;
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* Walky: &amp;quot;Storylinks shouldn&#039;t float!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Continuity range box (proposal)&lt;br /&gt;
* Explicit continuity drilldown (proposal)&lt;br /&gt;
* Passive-aggressive edit memos are not good communication&lt;br /&gt;
* [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] own the the G2 annual, but hasn&#039;t scanned it.&lt;br /&gt;
* Derik confirms he&#039;s [http://www.grnrngr.com/essay1.html this guy].&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=[[User_Talk:Derik/2007|2007]] (Archived)=&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[User:Rotty]] demands I be banned because i voted for a different wikia in a poll for a weekly feature.&lt;br /&gt;
* Don&#039;t post spoielrs from novels&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Crockalley]] calls my userpic &#039;the cutest catboy he&#039;s ever seen.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* Screed at people in a series of edit memos is impolite.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Image:EDC_Zodiac.jpg Autotrooper divisions]&lt;br /&gt;
* Derik should remember that is it not other users jobs to fix his opinionated edits.&lt;br /&gt;
* Descriptive filenames are better.&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
=[[User_Talk:Derik/2008|2008]] (Archived)=&lt;br /&gt;
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*Don&#039;t put templates in categories&lt;br /&gt;
*Mosaics are not canon&lt;br /&gt;
*Undermining the Wikia adblock.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Archive is incomplete due to the [[Project:Bookworm Crash|Bookworm Crash]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=2009=&lt;br /&gt;
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==Post restoration Wikia link clean up==&lt;br /&gt;
I recall you telling us last year about something you did that would remove all 250,000-odd links that wikia inserted into every page and every revision of every page. Would you be able to do the same again after we&#039;ve restored our articles? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:00, 18 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I made alterations to the &#039;&#039;import&#039;&#039; script, so they never even &#039;&#039;got&#039;&#039; to our database.  They&#039;re &#039;&#039;in&#039;&#039; now, they need to be edited out one by one.&lt;br /&gt;
:...I&#039;ll look at maybe setting up an edit script.  27,000+ individual edits in history.  JOY.  :p&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, for God&#039;s Sake :(  So it needs to be done manually? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:30, 18 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::After I saw this (there&#039;s really no way to get them out the history?), I looked to see if [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser|AutoWikiBrowser]] could be used to start zapping the Wikia links - no dice, apparently http://tfwiki.net/w2/api.php is out-of-line with http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php and [[wikipedia:Wikipedia_talk:AutoWikiBrowser/User_manual|it needs to be the same]]. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 10:59, 18 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Uhhh... I don&#039;t have a webcomic. And my name&#039;s not Tim.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don&#039;t think too hard about it.  I&#039;ve been calling one of our admins Doug for a year and he never bothered to correct me.  (His name is Alan... I think.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:42, 23 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Franchise Navigation Templates ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I figure that as long as I&#039;m going through everything, I might as well update all the templates to the new look, right?&lt;br /&gt;
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Question, though: Did I assume right that the plain links above the navigation templates are supposed to be links to the continuity families? (Like, it says &amp;quot;Generation 1&amp;quot; above the Generation 1 template, and &amp;quot;Live action film series&amp;quot; above the 2K7 and ROTF ones.) That stumped me a little when I got to the Headmasters template. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 04:34, 24 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:They are inconsistent.&lt;br /&gt;
:The nav above the 2007 movie (pre-crash) should be &amp;quot;ready,&amp;quot; in terms of HTML.  IIRC The CSS for the new design was recovered. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:01, 24 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, I already updated the 2K7, ROTF, and G1 navs based on the cache files that used those templates. I just figured that I might as well update the other franchise headers to use the same format while I was at it (I hate pink, what can I say?) but was stumped over how to translate that one bit of the new template. That line in the G1 and movie templates ends up being readable as a continuity family link, so I was wondering if you meant it that way, so I know how to adapt it to other franchises. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 06:43, 24 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A FYI ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.emopanda.com/cleanupbot/ - linked from [[:Category:Cleanup by month]] - needs to be updated to fix &#039;&#039;our&#039;&#039; cleanup count, rather than The Other Place&#039;s. [Plus, I suspect it may overwrite the category on the page, so please make sure it leaves it in [[:Category:Wiki cleanup]]. Although I half more than half a mind to just move the subcats from C:CbM to C:WC and save a redundant layer...] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 15:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t think it actually updates their account either, it hadn&#039;t worked since the Monaco upgrade.&lt;br /&gt;
:Hrm... you did just give me an idea though!&lt;br /&gt;
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And a question: Is it safe to put &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{speedy}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; on the twelve month templates at the start of [[:Category:Real-world_events_by_day]]? They don&#039;t APPEAR to be used, but I&#039;d like to double-check that [[Template:Cal-date]] doesn&#039;t use them in any way first. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 16:55, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nope!  They&#039;re used for navigation!  Clicking on a month in the date nav brings you to the 12-month calendar, because [[July]] redirect to [[Calendar]].  But clicking the &amp;quot;NEXT-MONTH&amp;quot; button takes you to [[Template:August]], which is &#039;&#039;just&#039;&#039; the month of August, unlike [[August]], which is the full 366 day calendar.&lt;br /&gt;
:The idea being... if you click next-month, you&#039;re looking for a near-ish date.  And if you click on the month itself, you&#039;re looking to navigate within the full year.  Separating the two display options out with templates actually does (or at least &#039;&#039;should&#039;&#039;) make quickly navigating dates much easier, more &amp;quot;natural&amp;quot; to how people are likely to search dates. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:42, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, could you do something to stop them appearing on [[Special:Unusedtemplates]], if they&#039;re actually necessary, then?&lt;br /&gt;
::It seems a hellava bodge to be using a template as, in effect, a page - can&#039;t you just change the links from (e.g.) &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[July]] to [[Calendar|July]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; and put the &amp;quot;Templates&amp;quot; in the namespace where they belong? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 19:10, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ll look into it. Part of the reason it&#039;s set up like this is simply-- this is the way ti was set up before the crash.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:16, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Admittedly I was thinking before the crash that if the Month links on the day pages are getting redirected to the calendar, they should, well, just actually link directly to the calendar. And the months should be actual pages, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
::::In fact, is it possible to have noinclude on a regular page? Because then we could have each of the months be a proper regular page with all of the day pages transcluded into it in noinclude tags, then have that page be transcluded where it needs to be in order to show just the calendar part.&lt;br /&gt;
::::(Um. When we have time to actually work on this sort of thing, I mean.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:32, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::This thing you describe is possible...  I will think about it, it&#039;d require some re-jiggering, and at least 320 edits.  (Every day&#039;s page would have to have its code changed.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Tell you what though-- I &#039;&#039;do&#039;&#039; know a way to get the month templates off the Unused templates page! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:01, 28 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hey ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you worked pretty hard on figuring out [[Staff Sergeant Tracy]]&#039;s name , [[Talk:United States Air Force|help me with this]] :) --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:33, 7 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a Deceptitran request. Could links to &amp;quot;Revelation (comic issue)&amp;quot; please move to &amp;quot;Revelation (War and Peace)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Revelation (Dreamwave issue)&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Revelation (The Dark Ages)&amp;quot;? Thanks! - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{deceptitran&lt;br /&gt;
|from=&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;Revelation (comic issue)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|to=Revelation (War and Peace)&lt;br /&gt;
|name= - Starfield 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
|comment=I have a Deceptitran request. Could links to &amp;quot;Revelation (comic issue)&amp;quot; please move to &amp;quot;Revelation (War and Peace)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Revelation (Dreamwave issue)&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Revelation (The Dark Ages)&amp;quot;? Thanks! - Starfield 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{deceptitran&lt;br /&gt;
|from=&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;Revelation (Dreamwave issue)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|to=Revelation (The Dark Ages)&lt;br /&gt;
|name= - Starfield 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
|comment=I have a Deceptitran request. Could links to &amp;quot;Revelation (comic issue)&amp;quot; please move to &amp;quot;Revelation (War and Peace)&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Revelation (Dreamwave issue)&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Revelation (The Dark Ages)&amp;quot;? Thanks! - Starfield 21:23, 13 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== The LongArm of the bot... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Cybertron_Elite_Guard&amp;amp;diff=271888&amp;amp;oldid=267284&lt;br /&gt;
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Huh? Even besides the fact that it [[Talk:Shockwave (Animated)#Capital A|seems to have been decided]] that the TransWarped credit was an aberration and the page has been reverted to small-a mode... wouldn&#039;t it have made more sense to change the link to [[Shockwave (Animated)]] in the first place? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 23:11, 15 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The bot is automated to detect moves and change links accordingly. Since somebody moved [[Longarm Prime|Longarm Prime]] to [[Longarm Prime|LongArm Prime]] (despite the fact that it was a redirect), the bot acted accordingly. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:43, 15 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, I add them manually.  (I have it scrap the move log for recent moves and choose which ones to add to the queue.)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just assumed someone knew what they were doign when they moved LongArm.  Not correct?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:56, 15 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== In search of a less stupid cleanup tag. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A quandary. I&#039;d &#039;&#039;like&#039;&#039; to make the cleanup tag template automatically datestamp if you neglect to specify one, via currentmonthname and currentyear variables, so it ends up in the proper category. However... if I subst those in the template itself, it will be forever April 2009. If I leave them variables, the date the tag was applied will not be preserved. Thoughts?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 19:05, 21 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This thing you say... I do not believe it is possible.  The problem is that {{currentday}} will always be updated when the page re-caches.  You need the page editor to either enter &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; or a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;subst:&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; command for this sort of &amp;quot;expansion&amp;quot; to happen.&lt;br /&gt;
:The only solution I&#039;ve ever thought of would be to have an off-site &#039;bot monitor pages in a category &amp;quot;Pages with undated...&amp;quot; and make edits to those pages, adding the dates to the templates.  The results wouldn&#039;t be perfect, but they&#039;d be more-or-less right.&lt;br /&gt;
:But that seems like a LOT of work for the result. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:56, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think I may have found the trick:&lt;br /&gt;
:::&#039;&#039;A less versatile method for multilevel substitution is with a pair of includeonly tags: they can be used to prevent substitution on the page itself, while not having any effect when transcluding the page. Substitution is prevented by having the template call inside these tags. Substitution is also prevented by having one or both tags anywhere in the template call except inside a parameter definition. Thus the tag(s) can be before, inside, or after &amp;quot;subst:&amp;quot;, or inside or after the template name. The positions of the two tags only influence the rendering of the template page itself. If the closing tag is put immediately after the opening tag the full wikitext is rendered, e.g.&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{&amp;lt;includeonly&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/includeonly&amp;gt;subst:tc}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; is shown as {{&amp;lt;includeonly&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/includeonly&amp;gt;subst:tc}}&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[wikipedia:Help:Substitution#Includeonly]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Plausible?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 02:21, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I&#039;ve read this documentation before, and it makes my head hurt.&lt;br /&gt;
:::How does that help us? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:27, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::On further examination, it doesn&#039;t unless the template containing those includeonly tags is &#039;&#039;also&#039;&#039; substituted. Which leaves us no closer. Drat. I shall delve deeper into the nature of transclusion and substitution and pray I don&#039;t inadvertently become a cultist of Azathoth.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 02:30, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The problem is you want to substitute on the page itself-- you want a &#039;flattened&#039; date.  So that means the editor needs to put in the &amp;quot;subst:.&amp;quot;  (Or more simply, a &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;~~~~~&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;,) it can&#039;t be optionally assigned by the template if non-present, because that would require the template reaching &#039;up&#039; into the page it&#039;s included on to make changes to the base text. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:39, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
We could, I suppose, create something to the effect of &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{lazycleanuptag}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; which forces substitution and only outputs &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cleanup|{{subst:currentmonthname}} {{subst:currentyear}}|}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; ...but that seems like going &#039;round Robin Hood&#039;s barn to get there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 02:35, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:And of course misses the point entirely of plunking a date tag in when people forget to do so, the original point of this exercise. It is for the most part &#039;&#039;admitting defeat&#039;&#039;.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 02:36, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::See, I didn&#039;t think that was how that worked.  See if you can make that work, with exactly that substitution.  If it does we at least have a starting point. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:43, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It does work. In that if I use the includeonly trick on the subst bits in that, and &#039;&#039;also&#039;&#039; subst the shell template itself, said template would then leave in the article text &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{cleanup|April 2009}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;, being a multi-level substitution as described in the mediawiki help. But, as I said above, it &#039;&#039;only&#039;&#039; works if the template using the includeonly trick is also substituted. The date variables get rendered flat, and the lazy cleanup template also gets reduced to standard wiki text, but any templates it calls aren&#039;t substituted, and thus still render as genuine transclusions.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 02:50, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The problem with that approach being that [[wikipedia:Help:Substitution#Forced_substitution|forced substitution]] is pretty much nonexistent, beyond a simple nag message.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 02:56, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bot request for image tagging==&lt;br /&gt;
I&#039;ve noticed that all of the images that haven&#039;t had their descriptions restored have the text &amp;quot;Importing image file&amp;quot; instead.  Can we have Deceptitran replace all instances of that phrase in the image namespace with &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;quot;{{bookworm|5}}&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;?  I think that&#039;ll make that part of the recovery process go much quicker. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 18:09, 24 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Link me an example file! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:00, 24 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[[:Image:Stargatebattles_starscream_and_his_ghost.jpg|Perfect example]].  Oh, and I was thinking about it, and it&#039;s probably best to replace the phrase with &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;quot;{{bookworm|5|Description and copyright info}}&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; just to make sure it&#039;s clear. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 20:25, 24 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==BW Neo Models ==&lt;br /&gt;
So, I&#039;m looking for future projects, and BW II / BW Neo seem like likely candidates.  A while back, while we were debating, you posted scans of Deadend http://www.emopanda.com/tmp/deadend_model.jpg that showed several angles.  Do you still have access to that book, and would you be willing/able to make some high quality scans? Also, does the book cover the secondary characters like Survive, Bazooka, Bump, Hydra, Sharp Edge. Randy and Sharp Edge?  --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 01:05, 2 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Beast Wars II Encyclopedia|Beast Wars II Guidebook]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Big Convoy (full++)&lt;br /&gt;
**Longstickupass (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Break (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Stampy (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Chorada (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Heinrad (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Mach Kick (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Lockbuster (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Randy (full-ish)&lt;br /&gt;
**Bump (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Sharpedge (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Survive (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**True One (fron + transformation)&lt;br /&gt;
**High Council (single shot)&lt;br /&gt;
**Magmatron (&#039;&#039;&#039;front and magamasaur only&#039;&#039;&#039;, toy control art for other modes)&lt;br /&gt;
**Guildart (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Saberback (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Dead End (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Sling (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Archadis (robot front/back only, toy control art for beast mode)&lt;br /&gt;
**Hydra (single shot of robot mode only)&lt;br /&gt;
**Hardheaded old fart (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Crazybolt (single shot of robot mode only)&lt;br /&gt;
**Bazooka (&#039;&#039;&#039;control art for all modes, no character models&#039;&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
**Vector Sigma (concept sketch)&lt;br /&gt;
**Yukikaze (3 views)&lt;br /&gt;
**Fuzzy seal things from episode 3 (front on both characters)&lt;br /&gt;
**Yukikaze Shuttle (multiple angles)&lt;br /&gt;
**Concept art of CR-chambers&lt;br /&gt;
**Hideos Spider Monster from episode 9 (partial model set)&lt;br /&gt;
**Star Upper (robot + beast, same model seen on his article now-- I colored it for that.)&lt;br /&gt;
**NAVI unit (3 angles + claw detail)&lt;br /&gt;
**Killerpunch (illo of his arm shooting only-- no proper models)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Beast Wars Theatrical Special Film Book|Beast Wars II Movie Guidebook]]&lt;br /&gt;
**Lio Convoy (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Apache (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Tasmania Kid (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Bighorn (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Scuba/Ikard (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Diver (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Insectrons (Full set, but partially obscured.  I have their colroed character models in another book to recover detail from...)&lt;br /&gt;
**Tripledacus (front only + head detail)&lt;br /&gt;
**Jointrons (&#039;&#039;&#039;low&#039;&#039;&#039; resolution, front and beast only)&lt;br /&gt;
**Artemis (several angles)&lt;br /&gt;
**Moon (rabbit only)&lt;br /&gt;
**Galbatron (full+)&lt;br /&gt;
**Megastrom (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Starscream (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**BBB (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Dirge (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Thrust (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Autorollers x4 (front, back, + 1 isometric vehicle view)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Beast Wars Neo Big Encyclopaedia]] (despite the name, it is small-format)&lt;br /&gt;
**Majin Zarak (monster/aircraft)&lt;br /&gt;
**Lio Convoy (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Apache (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Tasmania Kid (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Bighorn (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Diver (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Scuba/Ikard (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Taco Tank (full-- with that name you&#039;d think it belonged to the Jointrons...)&lt;br /&gt;
**LioJr.Skywarp/Santon/Magnaboss (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Galbatron (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Gigastrom (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Hellscream (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**MaxB (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Dirgegun (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Thrustol (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Optimus Primal (full)&lt;br /&gt;
**Majin Zarak (full)&lt;br /&gt;
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That&#039;s what I have for BW-era character models...&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Major stuff missing:&#039;&#039;&#039; Killerpunch, all the Seacons (I have the colored models though-- you can see them on their pages on the wiki.)  Some &#039;sets&#039; are less-than-complete, but might be filled out if you were able to pull lineart back out of the color models.  (I have several guidebooks that include colored models-- usually partially obscured by text but potentially useful.)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am looking for:&lt;br /&gt;
* BWII Manga v 2&lt;br /&gt;
* Car Robots encyclopedia (whatever its name is-- there was a mini-guidebook published for car that included a bunch of character models.  I didn&#039;t buy it when I had the chance, which I&#039;ve eternally regretted.)&lt;br /&gt;
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...that&#039;s probably a more complete answer than you expected.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:40, 2 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Beast Wars II Super Encyclopedia]] has &#039;&#039;colored&#039;&#039; models for all the pre-angolmois guys, including the missing Seacons.  (front angles in both modes only)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Beast Wars Neo Guidebook of Fuckwin has colored models of &#039;&#039;everyone&#039;&#039;.  Front angles only again.&lt;br /&gt;
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Both of these would require some work-- even assuming it&#039;s possible to extract lineart from them, they&#039;re partially obscured by text and boxes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:56, 2 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:... aaaaand that is why you kick SO much ass!  It looks like between the art I&#039;ve already got and these guide books, there is VERY little that&#039;s missing.  Thankfully, I&#039;ve got Killerpunch (one of the few ancillary characters from Neo I do have).  It looks like, assuming you&#039;re willing to make some scans / bring some books to Botcon for me to scan, you fill in pretty much all the gaps that I&#039;ve got.  Generally, I CAN extract lineart from color models when necessary, but it isn&#039;t my first choice.  Looks like I&#039;d be interested in: &lt;br /&gt;
::Lockbuster (full)&lt;br /&gt;
::Randy (full-ish)&lt;br /&gt;
::Bump (full)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sharpedge (full)&lt;br /&gt;
::Survive (full)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hydra (single shot of robot mode only)&lt;br /&gt;
::True One (fron + transformation)&lt;br /&gt;
::Vector Sigma (concept sketch)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fuzzy seal things from episode 3 (front on both characters)&lt;br /&gt;
::Concept art of CR-chambers&lt;br /&gt;
::Hideos Spider Monster from episode 9 (partial model set)&lt;br /&gt;
::Star Upper (robot + beast, same model seen on his article now-- I colored it for that.)&lt;br /&gt;
::Gigastrom (full)&lt;br /&gt;
::Optimus Primal (full)&lt;br /&gt;
::Majin Zarak (full)&lt;br /&gt;
:Plus, from [[Beast Wars II Super Encyclopedia]], colored Seacons.  From Beast Wars Neo Guidebook of Fuckwin, colored Hydra and Bazooka.  That would give full model sets for nearly everyone.  Poor Hydra (he&#039;s so lonely) and Bazooka may be the only ones who wind up with just fronts.  Ironic, since they&#039;ll be more work than the others.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Do you have my email address?  Cheers!  --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:38, 2 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, I could use better shots of Guiledart&#039;s dinosaur mode too. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:24, 3 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ads tot he list.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Do you need these toot-sweet, or can it take a few days?  (Just determines how much cleanup work I do.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:24, 3 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Ideally I&#039;d get it before Botcon.  Thanks for the help.  --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:21, 3 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The New Merge Template ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...*dies laughing* Is all. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:20, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Template:Source ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Trying to get it to match our new copyright tags, and have been mostly successful. Two problems. Trying to flatten out the if statements has met with less than perfect results, and the H2 tag there has forced me to use a bit of a kludge to prevent the TOC from being rendered IN the template. Hoping to get it in the same nice canary yellow and orange color scheme the original box you made for original sources used. Could you have a gander at it?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:28, 12 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Revenge of the Fallen books. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can&#039;t say as I really think [[Talk:I Am Optimus Prime (Robot Heroes)|this]] is one.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 02:40, 19 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== mfghrthr54tjtyj6t7kj67k5 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Seriously, stop bunging a Merge with Spotlight: Sixshot template on random pages, along with the other drunken stuff you&#039;ve been doing tonight like the &amp;quot;Quatuar&amp;quot; page. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 22:24, 27 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m practicing for my drunken rampage during Botcon. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:36, 27 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Earthforce/US timeline ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:&#039;&#039;Note: this is not speculation, the UK Letters page confirm the US timeline is a result o the Timestorm.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
Which issue? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 20:18, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I lost my notes on the UK Letters Page when my laptop was stolen-- ask Jim Sorrenson, he&#039;s researched the letters pages more recently than I.  They say it at least twice.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:40, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot work ==&lt;br /&gt;
Task: Scour the Wiki for all the myriard variant spellings of &amp;quot;Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us&amp;quot;, change them all to Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us (no reversed &amp;quot;R&amp;quot;, no spaces, standard quotation marks), make the first mention a Wiki link. Leave the [[Toys&amp;quot;R&amp;quot;Us]] page itself alone, especially the introductory paragraph.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:41, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can your bot handle creating links as well as changing them? I was thinking it&#039;d be nice to go through and link up all dates that aren&#039;t linked already. Would promote the date pages and make it easier to catch everything that belongs on each date page. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:54, 12 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:There is a concern that blindly linking to anything that looks like a date will cause more trouble than it solves.  What if the text is part of a text link?  For example, in disambigs, it&#039;s quite common to say &#039;&#039;in &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Transformers (2007)|the 2007 movie]]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; portion of the...&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:There is no simple way to prevent it from making a mess of those.  :(  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:58, 13 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Not the years, the months and days. Like &amp;quot;January 1&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;May 15&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;August 8&amp;quot;, etc. I guess those could show up in links too, but I think it&#039;d be a much rarer occurrance. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 23:08, 13 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::...potentially.  I&#039;ll look into it if Scout ever fixes the pagelisting utility I use to generate a master list. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:06, 14 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bot Request ==&lt;br /&gt;
I was trying to manually swap out [[Beast (planet)|Beest]] with [[Beast (planet) | Beast]] but the wiki delays have got me down.  Any chance you can bot it? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:10, 7 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure.  When did the spelling change though?  I thought Dreamwave&#039;s spelling ruled.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:13, 7 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, we may well have gotten them all.  Spelling change was by (small) consensus, based on Metrodome and The Ark using the traditional spelling.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 17:23, 7 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, I&#039;m not really sure why we moved it either. We have a name that doesn&#039;t require a parenthetical, which was used in English-language media. It can rightly be considered the English name of the planet. I don&#039;t know what moving it to a name that needs a parenthetical gains us.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 17:24, 7 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Avoiding a disambiguation parenthetical shouldn&#039;t be a reason for deciding the name of an article-- it leads to stupidity like &amp;quot;All Spark.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
::::But yeah... I get Jim&#039;s point of &amp;quot;two English-language sources for Beast,&amp;quot; but they&#039;re both out-fiction sources that&#039;re just aping the Japanese name.  (Quality of sources vs. quantity, I guess.)  I prefer Dreamwave&#039;s spelling both because it has primacy and because it&#039;s less dumb (I&#039;m not fond of Japan&#039;s dead-literal names) without really being a &#039;renaming.&#039;  The fact it removes the need for disambiguation is a plus, but not an active factor.&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;And it&#039;s worth pointing out that &amp;quot;Beast (G1)&amp;quot; isn&#039;t a very good parenthetical for the Dinobot combiner when Beest has appeared in Dreamwave&#039;s Transformers Generation 1 comics.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don&#039;t actually care enough to &#039;&#039;contribute&#039;&#039; to that debate, but feel cree to carbon-copy my comments if they seem helpful.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:16, 7 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Void==&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously, how do you undo that transparency? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:42, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;Opacity:.5;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:49, 19 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I have no idea where that setting is or how you&#039;re changing it without it registering in the History, but I do appreciate that you&#039;ve changed it back.  Thank you.  (As the one who came up with the gag of the page in the first place, I&#039;m a little defensive of it.) - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:12, 21 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It&#039;s not on the page-- it&#039;s in the sitewide CSS.  I have a [http://emopanda.com/tmp/tfwiki_tmp_global.css rapid-development CSS file] loaded off &#039;&#039;my&#039;&#039; web-space as an include in TFWiki&#039;s &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;common.css&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; file.  The ideas is that since only admins can edit &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;common.css&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; and since I do a fair amount of our template work... I have a file that can be easily edited, so you can make 50-60 changes while testing/developing template code.&lt;br /&gt;
:::In &#039;&#039;theory&#039;&#039; you could do this by yourself and then tell people to edit their personal .css file so they could see the changes... but in &#039;&#039;practice&#039;&#039; the result is that only 5 people would ever bother, even for major proposed changes-- and twice that number would look at a proposed template and say &amp;quot;it looks messed up&amp;quot; because they were lacking the .css for &#039;em.&lt;br /&gt;
:::(When Rosh and Jessye were developing styles for Monacobook and the main page, we just threw their code into the temp file so everyone could see it and respond easily.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If something&#039;s &#039;&#039;really&#039;&#039; wild and out there, it can be tested using [[User:Derik/kired_tools|Kired Tools]], and is only visible to users who&#039;ve installed the tools... but KT came later-- and anyway for 90% of stuff the rapid-development file is better-suited.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The idea is that &#039;&#039;eventually&#039;&#039; CSS changes, once they&#039;re completely solid, will migrate to the central common.css file.  In practice... some of this code has been there for more than a year-- but I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve gone more than 3 days &#039;&#039;without&#039;&#039; making some sort of edit to the file-- either for a new template or to accommodate a minor template tweak someone else wanted.  The &amp;quot;button&amp;quot; code for example (used for the previous/next buttons) has been tweaked slightly with every new template that uses it.  (Eventually I&#039;ll probably gut it and we&#039;ll get a generalized version made which can migrate to &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;common.css&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Oh-- and to answer your question re: the void specifically... you can set styles for &#039;&#039;specific pages&#039;&#039;.  The Void was an extreme example.  A much simpler one: our main page doesn&#039;t display the redundant &amp;quot;Main Page&amp;quot; title which was competing with the acctual &#039;&#039;site title&#039;&#039; (TFWiki.net) in the visual hierarchy.&lt;br /&gt;
:::So yeah... that&#039;s basically it.  If you require quick CSS changes or a test you can bug me.  I, in turn, have to be careful and play nice with the &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;demi&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;-godlike power entrusted in me, or I have it taken away.  (I&#039;ve been warned a couple times about the limits of what I should and shouldn&#039;t do.)  Net-net, everyone benefits and TFWiki.net has some of the nicer-looking templates out there.&lt;br /&gt;
:::...this is long.  I hope it answers your questions.  The seedy underbelly of TFWiki.net developers, with off-site archives and changes that don&#039;t show up in history!  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:20, 22 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Oh and before I forgety-- I suggest installing [http://getfirebug.com/ Firebug].  It&#039;s awesome-- and it woudl have todl you right away &#039;where&#039; the code that was baffling you on the void page was coming from.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:28, 22 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot Oddities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve noticed during the SG switch that sometimes, while fixing one link, the bot will at the same time revert a previously changed link &#039;&#039;back&#039;&#039; for some reason. Check out [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Talk%3AMain_Page&amp;amp;diff=345155&amp;amp;oldid=345142 this diff], for instance. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:32, 6 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The two edits were made to the same page 4 seconds apart.  Probably one was made by the 1-a-minute crontab script and the other was made by the speed-editor (which runs in-browser) and they tripped over one another&#039;s feet.  (I&#039;ll turn off the 1-a-minute editor.  The in-browser speed editor should force all the edits to execute in sequence instead of parallel.)&lt;br /&gt;
:You say &#039;sometimes,&#039; have you seen it anywhere else?  Normally that would only happen once in a blue moon.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:45, 6 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, sometimes right now, at least, due to the huge volume of link changes we&#039;re running. If you go to the Recent Changes page and show the bot edits, and skim down through it, you can see various instances on a number of pages where the size difference is (0) instead of a negative multiple of 13, meaning it fixed one link but reverted another. (Or there&#039;s 2 edits, but the size diff is only -13, etc.)&lt;br /&gt;
::Here&#039;s just [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Shattered_Glass_%28issue%29&amp;amp;action=history one page as an example], you can see the instances where the size doesn&#039;t change, and they seem to match up to the quirky reverts. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:56, 6 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::...great, I&#039;m running up against caching lag then. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:28, 6 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I think when I&#039;m done I&#039;ll just re-up all the moved pages &amp;quot;Move all the links again.&amp;quot;  Only this time instead of 1,400 links, it&#039;ll find maybe 30 loose ones.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ultimately if I re-architectured the &#039;bot to do &#039;&#039;all&#039;&#039; the pending relinks on a given page instead of making multiple edits the problem would go away.  I looked at making such a change this afternoon, but the code changes involved were too complicated.  :p  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:31, 6 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Faction Icons==&lt;br /&gt;
Derik, per [[Template_talk:Factions]], trying to swap out the Armada Unicron symbol for the Blendtron Unicron symbol ... how would I do that? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:43, 11 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That&#039;s done on [[template:factions/icons]].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 11:46, 11 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I can&#039;t figure out how, just from that link. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:26, 11 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Mazenoise got it. Once the cache refreshes, the pages should reflect this.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 12:28, 11 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Thanks.  (Sorry for your real estate, Derik.) --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:54, 11 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Eh, no problem.  I point out that [[User:Derik/kired tools|Kired Tools]] adds as &#039;purge&#039; button @ the top of an article after the &#039;watch&#039; button, which enables you to force a page to re-cache with a single click.  (&#039;&#039;Quite&#039;&#039; useful when making changes to templates... you don&#039;t have to wait for them to re-cache to see how the result looks.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:05, 11 August 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Template numeracy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just curious, is there a simple way to perform operations on a numeric template variable?&lt;br /&gt;
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That is, if the template has a variable &#039;&#039;x&#039;&#039;, can the template be made to spit out x+1 and x-1? And, taking it a stage further, can it be made to spit these out as a fixed number of digits (that is, if x=5, can it be made to spit out x+1 as 06 and x-1 as 04 without any further intervention?) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 17:29, 6 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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 &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{#pad: {{#expr: 1 + 2}} |4|0}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; &#039;&#039;&amp;amp;lt;!-- Pad to 4 characters using &amp;quot;0&amp;quot; the result of the expression&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:ParserFunctions Relevant link with more info.]  (This and other useful links can be found in the last section of my userpage.  You want anything called &amp;quot;functions.&amp;quot; )-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:44, 6 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thanks, I managed to figure out the rest from that :) [It was just to have autogenerated back/forward links on the Marvel cover templates, given that I didn&#039;t want to edit 97 pages by hand again and I hadn&#039;t been able to figure it out originally. There&#039;s still a slight question of styling, but meh, it&#039;ll do now] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 22:13, 6 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sun Raid==&lt;br /&gt;
I posted the audio of Sun Raid on my Yahoo Video page. It was among the requests. Credit to Retro Robot Radio and positive feedback would be appreciated. [http://video.yahoo.com/watch/5920762/15412501] [[Special:Contributions/69.14.142.90|69.14.142.90]] 17:32, 7 September 2009 (EDT&lt;br /&gt;
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:What a piece of work are you,&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:how noble in reason,&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:how infinite in faculties,&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:in form and moving how express and admirable,&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:in action how like an angel,&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:in apprehension how like a god! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:07, 8 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, I just meant give it 5 stars in the Yahoo Video ratings and maybe say &amp;quot;thanks for posting this&amp;quot; in the user comments on that page. I&#039;d been searching for Sun Raid for ages. I think I just need the audio for Decepticon Hostage now. [[Special:Contributions/207.181.17.24|207.181.17.24]] 16:58, 9 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I guess this is a job for the bot==&lt;br /&gt;
Transfans.net relocated to transfans.co.uk lately, there&#039;s a thread about it here: http://transfans.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=112756 - we have a bunch of links to their scans of the UK comic letters pages, so we&#039;ll need to sort them before the redirects go away. Cheers, [[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:07, 15 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Navmenu Work in Progress ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Jeysie/Navmenu]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry I&#039;m taking so long on it, but I can only wrestle with IE for so long before I want to start kicking things, and my cat doesn&#039;t deserve that.&lt;br /&gt;
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(And yeah, I know the design is ugly... that&#039;s not my strong point. I figure once the functionality&#039;s done, the design can be tweaked.)&lt;br /&gt;
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(...wait, why did I name this &amp;quot;navmenu&amp;quot;? It&#039;s not a freaking navmenu. Oh well, whatev.) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:09, 25 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Uh, why include {{tl|HMcover}}, {{tl|MarvelUScover}} and {{tl|MarvelG2cover}}? They&#039;re all done - there&#039;s only 4, 80 and 13 (respectively) of each and they&#039;re all uploaded in the right places (unlike the Marvel UK covers, where 91 covers need moved for naming errors [[:Image:MarvelUK-264.jpg|large]] and [[:Image:MarvelUK-319.jpg|small]]. Also, someone needs to figure out the UK copyright situation on them enough to write {{tl|MarvelUKcover}} and {{tl|MarvelUKinterior}}.). Even if you wanted to upload a new version, you wouldn&#039;t need to insert those templates all over again.&lt;br /&gt;
:[And I can&#039;t tell, since I don&#039;t have the JS plugins/etc - does the code just spurt out stuff like &amp;lt;font face=&amp;quot;monospace&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{MarvelUSinterior}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;, or does it include the variables? And if this is for file &#039;&#039;uploading&#039;&#039;, why {{tl|badimage}} and the replacedimage template?) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 19:34, 25 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because I just grabbed every single template in the Image Templates category. I don&#039;t actually know if all of those templates are useful or not, I was just interested in the core functionality of the thing. Since the HTML code is just a simple list, those folks who do know what is and isn&#039;t useful can easily remove (or add) stuff as needed.&lt;br /&gt;
::And, right now all it does is insert the basic template code itself sans variables, using the same wiki code that the Edit Tools bit uses. Derik will have to add back in the JS, as I don&#039;t know jack about JS. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:43, 25 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
It spurts out the same code test that is displayed.  If we convert the template to javascript (which, to be fair, can be done AFTER the design) we can re-rig it so that it spits out the template WITH all the variables listed and ready to be filled in to make it easier to use.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:23, 26 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Re: your Internet Explorer questions... do they perhaps relate to IE not properly registering mouseover events on objects other than A&#039;s? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:48, 26 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, IE7 can handle that (at least, it can in the test case... I&#039;m hoping that the wiki&#039;s DOCTYPE and whatnot won&#039;t screw with it somehow), and there&#039;s a relatively easy tweak known as &amp;quot;behaviors&amp;quot; that can duplicate the functionality in IE6. It&#039;s more just IE being irritating in how it handles general display compared to FF and Opera, especially when you&#039;re fooling around with &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;position:absolute&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 19:52, 26 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;*shrug*&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;  IE&#039;s stupidity has mostly gone unconscious for me-- I&#039;ve spent a decade dealing with it.  Most of the time I code on Firefox now, and go back and fix any display issues... but that only works because I automatically avoid the types of conflicts that cause IE&#039;s worst problems, so no fundamental re-coding it needed, just tweaks. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:56, 26 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Yeah, I usually try to avoid the more problematic stuff too, but there&#039;s no getting around using position when doing CSS menus. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 20:00, 26 September 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Note to self... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As of {{now|15:34, 20 October 2009 (EDT)}} there are 34,321 pages and 3,229 reirects on the wiki. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:34, 20 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Another bot request==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is it somehow possible to have Deceptitran add [[:Category:Images by Nelson Yomtov]] to every Marvel US image? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 06:38, 27 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hmmm... do they all share a common category?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:22, 27 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, there&#039;s [[:Category:Marvel US interior images]], which would make this a lot simpler than I thought. The only thing remaining after that would be to hunt down all those images that don&#039;t have the {{tl|MarvelUSinterior}} template on them.. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 07:30, 27 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Working on it. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 11:21, 27 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::er- you realize that we have 2,283 images on the wiki with NO description other than &amp;quot;Importing Image File&amp;quot;?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 08:25, 27 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could you &#039;&#039;post&#039;&#039; that list somewhere, by any chance? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 11:21, 27 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I&#039;m running some DB queries on my own server now related to it.  (I also want to catch all the images whose description is &amp;quot;&amp;quot;; a totally blank page.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Once &#039;&#039;that&#039;s&#039;&#039; in place, &#039;&#039;then&#039;&#039; I&#039;m going to re-code the &#039;bot (it&#039;s currently broken) into something more robust which can better handle our needs (Deceptitran 1.0 would stubbornly refuse to fix some links, wouldn&#039;t fix the in-template pagelinks we use, etc.) and use it to flag all the problem images.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You know-- in between doing 6 &#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039; things, like working out a proposal for a total re-think on infobox layout, and a template for ad-hoc category tagging articles related to maintenance projects, writing a generic content-syndication script... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:13, 27 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Would it be easy enough to make the bot just go through changing &amp;quot;Importing Image File&amp;quot; (and the blank pages) to {{tl|Bookworm}} for now? - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 15:23, 27 October 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::That&#039;s essentially what I&#039;ve got planned, yes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trolls ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I read your essay on trolls a while back, and I thought it was one of the most concise and clear explanations of troll behavior in a wiki setting that I&#039;ve seen. If it&#039;s okay with you, I&#039;d like to present it as an unofficial essay on the wiki&#039;s I work on (obviously crediting you). So&lt;br /&gt;
#Is that fine with you?&lt;br /&gt;
#Could you provide a link to the original essay, both for crediting and because I&#039;m stupid and can&#039;t find it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 14:17, 7 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sure, is it the &amp;quot;agree to disagree is not collaborate understanding&amp;quot; rant around Soundwave&#039;s profile you&#039;re looking for?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:21, 11 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh man, I just realized I never replied to this. I apologize for my rudeness; yes, it was the one about Soundwave&#039;s profile.[[Special:Contributions/68.58.56.172|68.58.56.172]] 01:11, 9 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Year subpages ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As I&#039;ve been filling out the year pages, I&#039;ve noticed that very few of the &amp;quot;subpages&amp;quot; for the year pages have been filled out. And those that have been filled out, don&#039;t seem to contain any information that isn&#039;t already found on the main year pages. What was the intent of those pages? As is, they seem redundant. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 16:16, 15 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Trash &#039;em!  We&#039;ve struggled to figure out what to do with the &amp;quot;year&amp;quot; pages.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:00, 21 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ok. You&#039;re only saying to trash the subpages, I hope? I think the year pages are still valuable as lists of what was released that year. And by the by, have you seen what I did with [[1985]] or [[1986]] yet? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:59, 21 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yeah, there was this sort of vague idea that the year pages ought to be highly structured... but it just hasn&#039;t worked out in practice (no one does the work) to the year pages have languished.  If they&#039;re finally turning &#039;&#039;into&#039;&#039; something then by all means feel free to trash those early experiments and impose the &#039;&#039;&#039;working&#039;&#039;&#039; structure. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:55, 21 November 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suite template ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I made a minor tweak to the suite template, which I&#039;ve currently got at [[User:Abates/suitetest]].  The reason for it is because the suite template as it&#039;s currently engineered seems to generate bogus entries in the WantedPages list for &amp;quot;Optimus Prime (G1)/Merchandise/suite&amp;quot; and so on.  As you&#039;re the resident template guru, I thought I&#039;d better check with you before storming ahead and implementing it, in case there was some drawback I hadn&#039;t thought of with regards to the way I&#039;ve done it.  The only problem I can think of offhand is if it&#039;s used on an article with a / in it, for instance if we had &amp;quot;Transformers/G.I. Joe/Gallery&amp;quot;. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:57, 9 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bot request - redirects cat==&lt;br /&gt;
;Disregard.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Now that you&#039;ve got D&#039;tran back up and working, could you possibly ask him to add any and all redirect pages into Category:Redirects to stop them clogging up [[Special:Uncategorizedpages]], please? - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 04:05, 11 December 2009 (EST)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:I&#039;m confused - I don&#039;t see any redirects in the Uncategorized Pages list! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:31, 11 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::You know what? You&#039;re right. I must be thinking of something else, but I can&#039;t think what it is. Ignore me. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 04:43, 11 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I probably SHOULD do that with all the recursive redirect templates though... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:18, 29 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rounded corners stuff ==&lt;br /&gt;
Thought I&#039;d mention the little thing that the next version of Opera will support the &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;border-radius&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; property (since IIRC we just have FF &amp;amp; Safari&#039;s proprietary rounded border properties). IE still sucks, of course. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 09:13, 22 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ayep, Opera 10.5 definitely has rounded border support. I added tweaks of all of the border-radius things I could find to [[User:Jeysie/monacobook.css|my personal CSS]]. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:15, 8 March 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==PSX Transmetals==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, Derik. The Playstation version of the Transmetals fighting game won&#039;t emulate on my machine. Would you be able to get shots of the player 2 color schemes for the various characters in it, like you did Windrazor? (Is there really only one secondary color scheme per character in the PS version? The N64 game went crazy with &#039;em. I still need to finish screenshotting those...) -- [[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 08:47, 26 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[http://emopanda.com/tmp/transmetals/ This] is a page I was working on in 2003 documenting the Tranemetals game which I never got finished.  You can download [http://emopanda.com/tmp/transmetals/transmetals.rar a rar of the whole directory here], which includes full-res TGA&#039;s of my master screenshots (well, most of &#039;em.  It&#039;s kinda a mish-mash.)&lt;br /&gt;
:Have at thee!  You&#039;re free to use anything there!  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:23, 26 January 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t suppose you know if there&#039;s a way to reskin a particular page, and only that page? I&#039;m trying to do that on another wiki. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 08:58, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Every page on a wiki has a unique class associated witht he base &amp;amp;lt;BODY&amp;amp;gt; element based on its name.  For the main page, this class is &amp;quot;page-Main_Page&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:So to hide the page title on the main page (which would otherwise supurfulously read &amp;quot;Main Page,&amp;quot; and our analytics indicated were causing users to think they were not truly at the siteroot) we use the following css:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;.page-Main_Page .firstHeading {&lt;br /&gt;
     display:none;&lt;br /&gt;
}&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope that&#039;s helpful!  You cna find the class-identifier from a page by viewing the source or (easier IMO) using the Firebug extension.  (But if you&#039;re not a developer, the Firebug extension may be confusing.)  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:56, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sorry, but that makes no sense. You see, I&#039;m trying to do something similar to what you were trying to do with [[Shattered Glass (franchise)]] at one point. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 03:48, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;.page-Shattered_Glass_franchise&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
::It&#039;s a css class that is assigned to the document root dynamically by the mediawiki software which reflects the name of the page.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:52, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Right.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sorry, but I&#039;m kinda stuck with the Monaco skin right now, and this stubbornly refuses to work. The closest I ever got was accidentally turning all the text on the target page white. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 04:37, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Have you tried hitting it?  Try hitting it. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 04:51, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Assuming you&#039;re working with your personal styles page...&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Many default mediawiki styles are flagged with the &amp;quot;do not override&amp;quot; debug-code.  This is terrible practice, but they did it, not us.  Many others are id-prefixed (which gives them precedence.)  This is &#039;&#039;&#039;good&#039;&#039;&#039; practice.  Both are annoying.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Try something like &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;.page-Shattered_Glass_franchise #content h1.firstHeading&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; (where .firstHeading is whatever class you&#039;re trying to affect.  More specific rules has precedence, so adding the tag to the class may help too.)  If it&#039;s still un-cooperative you can use the debug code in the rule.  &amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;background-color:pink !important;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::This, incidentally, is why I use Firebug; it shows you what rules are overriding what. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:43, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Actually, I&#039;m working with the main .css file (One of the perks of being an &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;almighty god&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; admin.) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:58, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::By &amp;quot;main&amp;quot; I assume you mean common.css, not the skin base file.  (IIRC the skin file requires FTP access to change.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::What are you trying to do?  Maybe I can help.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:10, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I&#039;m actually stuck with Wikia, so I&#039;m working with MediaWiki:monaco.css.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Anyway, I&#039;m (pretty much) running a wiki about a text-based RPG on a forum you have most likely never heard of before, and we just introduced a mirrorverse. &lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I&#039;m trying to change the skin&#039;s colours (which are maroon-ish and grey, if that helps), to light blue and slightly darker gray, thus giving an &amp;quot;inverted colours&amp;quot; appearance&amp;quot; on that page and that page only. If it&#039;s possible to reverse the link colours too (blue links are red, red links are blue), that would be nice. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 04:57, 17 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::shift-refresh to clear your cache if you&#039;re not seeing the colors.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;.page-User_talk_Derik #content{&lt;br /&gt;
	background-color:#cccccc !important;&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;br /&gt;
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.page-User_talk_Derik #content a.new{&lt;br /&gt;
	color:#5A3696 !important;&lt;br /&gt;
}&lt;br /&gt;
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.page-User_talk_Derik #content a{&lt;br /&gt;
	color:#CC2200 !important;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::The basic principle involved should be clear enough.  Let me know when you&#039;ve seen this so I can remove it from TT1&#039;s master CSS file.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:28, 18 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::I have it. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 03:02, 19 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::And, quite annoyingly, it is still not working. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 07:25, 19 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::Install the [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843 firebug plugin].  Use it to highlight the affected element.  It will show you which CSS rules apply to that element, and which are overriding each other.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:27, 20 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==GoBot Wiki spam==&lt;br /&gt;
FYI: Your user page and a couple of others on [http://gbwiki.covertutopia.com/wiki/Main_Page GoBots wiki] has been spammed. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:38, 15 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Your userpage ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When did this wiki get horribly fused with the wiki where I actually &#039;&#039;am&#039;&#039; an admin and have access to the site css? :)&lt;br /&gt;
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(No, really. Fix that when you get around to it.) --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 11:30, 20 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot Request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:We need to nuke all the sub-categories in Category:Functions named &amp;quot;foo specialist&amp;quot;. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 12:46, 11 March 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== common_tmp.css versus the css on emopanda ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey! [[User:Derik/Common tmp.css]] and tfwiki_tmp_global.css on emopanda are both included in common.css at the moment.  I would have simply removed one as mostly they&#039;re duplicates of each other, but it looks like you&#039;d added stuff (e.g. the feed icons) to your emopanda copy which isn&#039;t in common_tmp.css.  Should I move the new styling into common_tmp.css and remove the emopanda file from common.css? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:00, 11 March 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== emopanda malware warning. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m getting a malware warning off emopanda when I load the site in chrome (I had to remove the call to the css file on there from common.css). The warning I got linked to [http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http://emopanda.com/&amp;amp;client=googlechrome&amp;amp;hl=en-US this page] so you can check it out. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:38, 29 August 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:...odd.  I wonder if my host got infected?  I haven&#039;t touched a thing on the site.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:28, 7 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request for info ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey there, I&#039;m Dr Ishmael, an admin at GuildWiki.  We are currently in the planning stages of leaving Wikia, and you were mentioned as a good resource to contact for advice on the technical details of this process.&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically, it was mentioned that when TFwiki moved, you initially had a form of cross-site authentication in place so that Wikia users could re-register their usernames here with the same password.  I was wondering if you could give me any specifics on how that was implemented (I&#039;ve written similar code before in Perl, so I&#039;m familiar with the idea), or even if you still had the code lying around that you could send me.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you have any additional advice about this or any other aspect of moving a wiki, we would certainly appreciate the help.  Feel free to [[Special:Emailuser/Dr ishmael|email me]] directly or [[Wikia:c:guildwars:User:Dr ishmael|contact me at GuildWiki]].  Thanks!  [[User:Dr ishmael|Dr ishmael]] 13:35, 1 October 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: A friendly anon posted at GuildWiki to direct me to your LJ posts about the move.  I think they cover everything I had questions about so far.  However, Wikia is now using a fancy AJAX-based login page (Special:Signup) and I don&#039;t know if Special:UserLogin still functions or not (going to the URL just redirects to Special:Signup, but it might still accept POST requests).  If I run into any problems adapting the code for the new login page, I may be back with more questions.  [[User:Dr ishmael|Dr ishmael]] 15:28, 1 October 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Good luck!  It&#039;s kinda cool to see other people telling Wikia where they can shove it. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:03, 1 October 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I&#039;m a bureaucrat at the Might and Magic Wiki which is also in the process of telling Wikia where &amp;quot;it&amp;quot; belongs and moving elsewhere. Love the new interface here and its strong resemblance to Monaco: I wanted to ask whether it would be considered a violation of any laws/goodwill if we shamelessly copy it as a template (and if so, whether we could inquire about related technical help around here during the transfer)? Thanks! --[[User:Dubiel|Dubiel]] 18:15, 23 October 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=2011=&lt;br /&gt;
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== Monaco-book skin ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi! I am User:KrytenKoro at kingdomhearts.wikia.com, and we recently moved to khwiki.net . We are trying to install monaco, but our host said that wikia&#039;s version is too buggy to use, so we wanted to use tfwiki&#039;s monaco-book as an alternative. From what I can tell, you worked on that skin some, and I was hoping that you could help our host ([http://khwiki.net/User_talk:porplemontage here]) get that installed. If there&#039;s anything I can do to help, please don&#039;t hesitate to ask, and if I&#039;m bugging the wrong person, I apologize. Thanks! [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:KrytenKoro KrytenKoro]14:23, 9 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You want to ask [[User:Rosicrucian]] about that.&lt;br /&gt;
:(I imagine we&#039;re fine with it-- we internally refer to our skin as &amp;quot;Monacobook&amp;quot; because it&#039;s a deliberate hybrid.)  But Ros is the guy who did all the heavy lifting putting the skin together, so you&#039;d want to ask him for guidance. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:47, 10 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Our skin took kind of a weird path to get here. The stuff that went into it &#039;&#039;started&#039;&#039; as me futzing around with reskinning Monaco, then when it became obvious that too much of Monaco was tied into weird Wikia specific stuff, I shifted to reskinning Monobook. The thing to realize about coming up with mediawiki skins is that really all it takes is some basic knowledge of CSS and enough spare time to throw up a working file in your userspace and bang away at it until you get something you like. Really, I haven&#039;t &#039;&#039;radically&#039;&#039; changed anything in Monobook, and CSS files are pretty human-readable on purpose. I mean seriously, I think maybe the most &amp;quot;different&amp;quot; thing we did was applying patterns to the various header bars and finding a way to substitute graphics in the place of the sidebar header text. If you mean just straight-up &amp;quot;how to install skins in MediaWiki&amp;quot; there is actually [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Skins/From_Meta a very good tutorial] on that already in the MediaWiki documentation. As I don&#039;t think I did anything too special with our skin, I personally don&#039;t have much qualms if you appropriate the basic structure and make it your own. Just familiarize yourself with what a CSS file looks like, and bear in mind the stuff I did is going to point rather obviously to assets on this server, so your own reskinned version will of course have to substitute new graphics and their respective paths in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 23:00, 10 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks![[Special:Contributions/12.53.10.226|12.53.10.226]] 18:49, 17 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I feel kind of stupid for asking this, but where is your actual monacobook code?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 15:10, 22 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::[http://tfwiki.net//w2/skins/monacobook/tt1.css Here].--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 23:03, 26 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Template:Disbox? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, Derik, is Template:Disbox actually in use for anything?  I&#039;m trying to clean up Uncategorized Templates.  [[User:JW|JW]] 09:55, 13 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s a legacy of a proposed change to how the disambig pages were done.&lt;br /&gt;
:Feel free to trash it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:28, 13 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Camera==&lt;br /&gt;
Love you Derik. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 19:37, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robot Masters online comic ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you happen to have the last three chapters of it? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:01, 27 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don&#039;t know how the chapters break... I have 26 pages, does that help?&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R05AMS85 Here&#039;s everything I have from Robotmasters.]&lt;br /&gt;
:(I think I&#039;m gonna limit myself to talk pages for awhile.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:32, 27 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::26 should be the right number (two pages per chapter). Thank you! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:04, 27 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Glad I could be helpful!  Does this mean there is going to be coverage for the RM comics?&lt;br /&gt;
:::Please let me know if the red thing Victory Leo emerges from is the Bloody Zone, will you?&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, it occurs to me that even if we&#039;re holding off on the unsubbed BWII/Neo episodes for accuracy, we could probably manage 1-sentence summaries on top and cast lists.  Make the articles less spare and at least slightly useful.&lt;br /&gt;
:::(Uh, I&#039;m not suggesting you to do that, I&#039;m just thinking aloud.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:25, 27 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, I&#039;ve increased the amount of information on [[Robotmasters (online manga)|the individual pages]], but they still lack synopses because I&#039;m uneasy about making them when I have little clue what the characters&#039;re saying (not to mention the accompanying [[User:Lonegamer78/Sandbox#Robot_Masters_online_comic_text_portions|prose]]).&lt;br /&gt;
::::The panel you&#039;re talking about is artistic license to show Victory Leo having an internal dialogue; it&#039;s not literal, as is also indicated by the giant floating head. That&#039;s common to Japanese media. (He&#039;s also, uh, already there.) The only visual example of the Blastizone I&#039;ve found is [[:Image:Robot Masters comic Blastizone.jpg|this]]. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:46, 27 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What&#039;s the onomatopoeia?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:59, 28 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::There doesn&#039;t appear to be any mention of the Blasty Zone by name anywhere in the comics. (mind you, I mostly skimmed through looking for the proper katakana) The onomatopoeia used for Primal&#039;s appearance appears to be &amp;quot;Buon&amp;quot;. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:08, 28 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I mention because &#039;&#039;other&#039;&#039; than the Bleed (which seems to share certain attributes with Bloody Zone) I always thought the Blasty Zone sounded like a Boom Tube.  Among a Boom Tube&#039;s other attributes... it &#039;&#039;changes the size&#039;&#039;&#039; of anything that travels through it to fit the local environments.  (Giants come through human-sized and vice-versa.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I&#039;m not even &#039;&#039;beginning&#039;&#039; to suggest any connection there-- I just think it&#039;s funny.  :)  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:34, 28 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Do you still have the comics anywhere? Megaupload has imploded since you posted that link, and I&#039;d like #11-13 and #2 of the pack-in comic for completion&#039;s sake? [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 20:02, 29 September 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Maybe useful website?===&lt;br /&gt;
Just so you don&#039;t have to strain your eyes when looking at blurry kanji, [http://xeel.aikotoba.jp/storage/index.html this site] has a [http://xeel.aikotoba.jp/storage/bwn/glossary.html glossary of BWN stuff]. It&#039;s... pretty much the only site I&#039;ve found that goes in any depth about BWII and BWN. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:40, 4 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Kersweet!  Matching kanji when it doesn&#039;t OCR will be &#039;&#039;much&#039;&#039; easier than trying to figure out the radical combinations.  Thanks !?&#039;&#039;!&#039;&#039; -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:44, 4 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bot test ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder how this handles:&lt;br /&gt;
* [[トランスフォーマー カーロボッ|multibyte link]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Petro-Rabbit|トランスフォーマー カーロボッ]] - multibyte visible&lt;br /&gt;
* [[トランスフォーマー カーロボッ|トランスフォーマー カーロボッ]] - multibyte both&lt;br /&gt;
* [[トランスフォーマー カーロボッ]] simple multibyte link&lt;br /&gt;
* {{storylink|Petro-Rabbit|トランスフォーマー カーロボッ}} - multibyte storylink&lt;br /&gt;
* {{storylink|トランスフォーマー カーロボッ|トランスフォーマー カーロボッ}} - multibyte both&lt;br /&gt;
* {{storylink|トランスフォーマー カーロボッ}} simple multibyte storylink&lt;br /&gt;
-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:46, 20 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Redirect fix list for bot==&lt;br /&gt;
:Matrix Quest (Marvel) - Matrix Quest&lt;br /&gt;
:Dark Designs (episode) - Dark Designs&lt;br /&gt;
:Showdown (episode) - Showdown&lt;br /&gt;
:Dark Star (issue) - Dark Star&lt;br /&gt;
:All Fall Down (issue) - All Fall Down&lt;br /&gt;
:Primal Scream (issue) - Primal Scream&lt;br /&gt;
:Fallen Angel (issue) - Fallen Angel&lt;br /&gt;
:Time Wars (issue) - Time Wars&lt;br /&gt;
:Way of the Warrior (issue) - Way of the Warrior&lt;br /&gt;
:The Best of Simon Furman - The Transformers: The Best of Simon Furman&lt;br /&gt;
:Greatest Battles of Optimus Prime and Megatron - The Transformers: Greatest Battles of Optimus Prime and Megatron&lt;br /&gt;
:Best of Optimus Prime - The Transformers: Best of Optimus Prime&lt;br /&gt;
:All Hail Megatron - The Transformers: All Hail Megatron&lt;br /&gt;
:The Arrival - Transformers Animated: The Arrival&lt;br /&gt;
:The Ascending - Transformers: Beast Wars: The Ascending&lt;br /&gt;
:Beast Wars Sourcebook - Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook&lt;br /&gt;
:Defiance - Transformers: Defiance&lt;br /&gt;
:Destiny - Transformers: Destiny&lt;br /&gt;
:Escalation (IDW) - The Transformers: Escalation&lt;br /&gt;
:Evolutions - The Transformers: Evolutions&lt;br /&gt;
:The Gathering - Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering&lt;br /&gt;
:Foundation - Transformers: Foundation&lt;br /&gt;
:Infiltration - The Transformers: Infiltration&lt;br /&gt;
:Last Stand of the Wreckers - The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers&lt;br /&gt;
:Maximum Dinobots - The Transformers: Maximum Dinobots&lt;br /&gt;
:Megatron Origin - The Transformers: Megatron Origin&lt;br /&gt;
:Movie Adaptation - Transformers: Movie Adaptation&lt;br /&gt;
:Movie Prequel - Transformers: Movie Prequel&lt;br /&gt;
:Nefarious - Transformers: Nefarious&lt;br /&gt;
:The Reign of Starscream - Transformers: The Reign of Starscream&lt;br /&gt;
:Balancing Act (issue) - Balancing Act&lt;br /&gt;
:Revenge of the Fallen (comic series) - Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation&lt;br /&gt;
:Rising Storm - Transformers: Rising Storm&lt;br /&gt;
:Saga of the Allspark - Transformers: Saga of the Allspark&lt;br /&gt;
:Spotlight (comics) - The Transformers: Spotlight&lt;br /&gt;
:Stormbringer (comics) - The Transformers: Stormbringer&lt;br /&gt;
:Target 2006 (IDW) - The Transformers: Target: 2006&lt;br /&gt;
:Tales of the Fallen - Transformers: Tales of the Fallen&lt;br /&gt;
:Devastation (IDW) - The Transformers: Devastation&lt;br /&gt;
:Claster - Claster Television&lt;br /&gt;
:Headmasters (comic) - The Transformers: Headmasters&lt;br /&gt;
:Generation One (Dreamwave comic) - Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave) &lt;br /&gt;
:The War Within - Transformers: The War Within&lt;br /&gt;
:War Within: The Dark Ages - Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages&lt;br /&gt;
:War Within: The Age of Wrath - Transformers: War Within: The Age of Wrath&lt;br /&gt;
:Makoto (Stargate Battles) - Makoto (Star Gate)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Cool - Transformers Animated: The Cool&lt;br /&gt;
:The Stargate Battles (issue) - The Battle of the Star Gate&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not all of them, but sizable enough to take a while. Additions are forthcoming. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:29, 28 October 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;tt&amp;gt;BOT: replacing (1) links to &amp;quot;The Gathering&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;Transformers: Beast Wars: The Gathering&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/tt&amp;gt; — should be  [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering]] with a comma, not a colon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 06:59, 4 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::But that looks silly! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:50, 4 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The comma only applies to The Gathering, not The Ascending. (Blame the indicia.) [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 22:39, 4 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I remember when indicia was something we used to make formal titles &#039;&#039;better&#039;&#039;, not worse.  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:59, 5 November 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think Deceptitran might need some tweaking when it comes to storylinks [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Herald_of_Unicron&amp;amp;diff=658987&amp;amp;oldid=636642] It&#039;s turning &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{storylink|Y}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; into &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{storylink|X|Y|}}X|&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; in some places. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:57, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::...fucking hell.  IT&#039;S the  SAME DAMN CODE it&#039;s had for 3 years!  Why would it...?&lt;br /&gt;
::Has it been doing it all over?  I am very confused by this.&lt;br /&gt;
::&#039;&#039;*sigh*&#039;&#039;  Anyway, it&#039;s not running now.  I&#039;m going to be gone for a day or two, I&#039;ll look at it then.  I&#039;m sorry man.  :(  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:05, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Hey, it could have been worse - there&#039;s no data loss after all! (though with the amount of backups we have, even that wouldn&#039;t have been a problem) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:17, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Was it just that BW link it was doing it on?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:48, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Unfortunately no. Looks like it was anywhere a title was in a storylink. I fixed a bunch of War Within storylinks last night. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 13:53, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::$%^&amp;amp;*(  How long has it been doing that for?!  I know it wasn&#039;t last week.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::&#039;&#039;*sigh*&#039;&#039; This is probably a result of changes to make it work on links within templates.  But they shouldn&#039;t affect storylinks!&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I&#039;ll probably just roll the entire &#039;bot back to a previous version.  (Assuming I can find where I &#039;&#039;put&#039;&#039; the previous version.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:48, 7 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==NetJet==&lt;br /&gt;
What are the odds of you being able to track down a workable rip/ROM/whatnot of [[Transformers Battle Universe]]? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:52, 13 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I see zero references to Net Jet ROM&#039;s or rips online, so probably no.&lt;br /&gt;
:I assume the online servers are no longer active?  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:54, 13 November 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Bloody Zone draft you did ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did you want to keep that? If so, you should probably move it to User space or something. Also the gender-icons template you did has been up for deletion for a few months, so, er, ditto? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 04:16, 17 December 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nah, trash &#039;em both.&lt;br /&gt;
: (Though I still think it&#039;s retarded that our article on the Bleed pretends we don&#039;t know what it is.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:35, 17 December 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Sorry, I shouldn&#039;t say retarded.  It&#039;s differently abled. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:21, 17 December 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suite code ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m trying to replicate the suite code [http://www.khwiki.net/Riku here], and I copied the common.css from [http://tfwiki.net/wiki/User:Derik/Common_tmp.css here] to [http://www.khwiki.net/MediaWiki:Common.css here]. However, as you can see on the test article, the &amp;quot;suite&amp;quot; first line isn&#039;t as thin as it is on the tfwiki. Do you recognize this bug, and can you give me any pointers on fixing it?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 23:37, 23 December 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=2012=&lt;br /&gt;
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== Google+ ==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, I made a Google+ page for the wiki. Can you update the main page to also include the Google+ picture link next to the other social network links? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Use this!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 21:38, 8 October 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Relevant article to your current efforts==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Intelligence officer]]. [[Special:Contributions/24.211.29.87|24.211.29.87]] 22:44, 22 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:blah.  Gratitude though.  I think I&#039;ll finish the article &#039;&#039;then&#039;&#039; go back and merge the two.  Thank you!!  -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:48, 22 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ladybird scans at green-ranger==&lt;br /&gt;
Hey, Derik -- Long time! I just got an email from somebody about my old book scans site informing me that the Ladybird scans you put on green-ranger.com are gone! Have they been relocated, or are they down right now? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 08:41, 31 July 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I certainly don&#039;t have them, but the internet is full of packrats.  From the TFG pastebin:&lt;br /&gt;
 Ladybird books #1-10 + Movie - http://www.sendspace.com/file/s65zfe&lt;br /&gt;
 Ladybird books Audio Tapes #1-10 + Movie - http://www.sendspace.com/file/n8z67h&lt;br /&gt;
:-Derik&lt;br /&gt;
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== New Bot Shots battle game armors ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noticed they added two more armor sets (Minotaur and Dragonscale) if you wanna grab images of &#039;em for our article. Also any chance you could grab better images of Skystalker, Buzzclaw, Hydrax and Hun-Gurrr off there? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:55, 19 August 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Template:Spoiler implementation on another wiki ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;ve tried patching this template in at Hellboy wiki, but I&#039;m fumbling around because it&#039;s not working. Could you give me any guidance?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 10:24, 22 May 2014 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=2016=&lt;br /&gt;
Gasp! Can it be? &lt;br /&gt;
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Welcome back to the land of moving parts. Drop me a line at some point. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 19:49, 22 March 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==How can I edit the template?==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello, Derik. I am tjdnf1995, a newcomer in this wiki. I&#039;m from South Korea and name&#039;s Jin-bo Sim. So just call me Jin-bo.&lt;br /&gt;
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I&#039;m going to add a South Korean voice actor on [[Demolishor (ROTF)]] page without deleting any other actors. I added the korean actor on [[template:voiceactor]], too. But when I saved my edit, there was nothing but only original actor and spanish voice actor. So I changed the queue. Then, the Spanish actor is disappeared. That really makes me angry. I tried to edit the template, but I couldn&#039;t because of its mechanism was hard to find. How do I find and edit it? --[[User:Tjdnf1995|Tjdnf1995]] ([[User talk:Tjdnf1995|talk]]) 12:04, 13 June 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;Pre-Requiem continuity&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
That&#039;s not a thing! --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 14:31, 14 March 2019 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>War for Cybertron: Siege</title>
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[[File:WFC-Siege-Poster-ArkLaunchAutobots.jpg|thumb|250px|The stege begins.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;War For Cybertron: Siege&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a [[subline imprint]] of the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]&#039;&#039; toyline, and the first portion of the &#039;&#039;[[War for Cybertron Trilogy]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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First revealed in mid-[[2018]] at [[San Diego Comic-Con]], &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron: Siege&#039;&#039;, in keeping with the installments of the &#039;&#039;[[Prime Wars Trilogy]]&#039;&#039;, features a line-wide [[gimmick]]: weaponry. Most Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader Class figures each come with at least one or two weapons that can transform, combine, and/or be placed into any [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]] posts, [[5 mm post]]s littered all over their bodies, essentially an updated version of the [[Powerlinx]] system. Another line-wide feature is battle-damaged paintjobs on Deluxe-and-up figures to fit with the gritty &amp;quot;war&amp;quot; aspect. Returning to this toyline are [[Micromaster]]s, which are bundled in two packs, replacing the Legends Class of the last half-decade, and are now able to combine into large weapons as well as transform into their vehicle form. This size class is also used for Soundwave&#039;s minions, who can turn into cassettes or be used as a shield with fold-out pegs. Replacing the [[Prime Master]]s from [[Power of the Primes (toyline)|the last toyline]] are &amp;quot;[[Battle Master]]s&amp;quot;, small [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]]-type figures that can combine with other weapons and figures. They include additional &amp;quot;Fire Blast&amp;quot; effect pieces that can be placed onto other weapons included with other size classes, as well as hardpoints on the figures themselves to simulate being &#039;shot&#039; or on the back of vehicles to simulate &amp;quot;rocket boosters&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;speed&amp;quot;, depending on the effect part. Each effect part attaches via a 3 mm hole, or in most cases, 5 mm posts too. Some Deluxe Class figures are classified as &amp;quot;Deluxe Weaponizers,&amp;quot; which can be disassembled into multiple weapons to be used in the C.O.M.B.A.T. System. Leader Class figures are very similar to &#039;&#039;Power of the Primes&#039;&#039;, in which smaller figures come with additional armor that can be be added to vehicle mode or robot mode to increase their size to become the height of a Leader Class figure.&lt;br /&gt;
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The boxes of the figures have black-light revealed [[Alphabet#Generation 1 alphabets|cybertronian script]] on them which can be put into the &amp;quot;[[Found a hidden code?]]&amp;quot; game on the Transformers website.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===General retail===&lt;br /&gt;
====Battle Masters====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S1 [[Firebolt (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Firedrive]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S2 [[Lionizer (G1)#Generations|Lionizer]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S3 [[Blowpipe (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Blowpipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S16 [[Pteraxadon#Generations|Pteraxadon]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S17 [[Aimless (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Aimless]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Future waves&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S30 [[Caliburst (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Caliburst]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S31 [[Smashdown#War for Cybertron: Siege|Smashdown]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Battle-Master-Lionizer.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Battle Master Lionizer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Beyond wave 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Micromasters====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S4 [[Roadhandler (G1)#Generations|Roadhandler]] &amp;amp; [[Swindler#Generations|Swindler]] ([[Race Car Patrol#Generations|Race Car Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S5 [[Storm Cloud (G1)#Generations|Storm Cloud]] &amp;amp; [[Whisper (G1)#Generations|Visper]] ([[Air Strike Patrol#Generations|Air Strike Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S6 [[Big Shot#Generations|Autobot Topshot]] &amp;amp; [[Flak (G1)#Generations|Flak]] ([[Battle Patrol#Generations|Battle Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S18 [[Laserbeak (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Laserbeak]] &amp;amp; [[Ravage (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ravage]] ([[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Soundwave Spy Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S19 [[Red Hot#Generations|Red Heat]] &amp;amp; [[Stakeout (G1)#Generations|Stakeout]] ([[Rescue Patrol (G1)#Generations|Rescue Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Future waves&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S32 [[Blackjack#War for Cybertron: Siege|Decepticon Blackjack]] &amp;amp; [[Hyperdrive (Micromaster)#Generations|Hypderdrive]] ([[Sports Car Patrol#Generations|Sports Car Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Micro-Master-Battle-Patrol.jpg|thumb|300px|Micromasters Autobot Topshot and Flak]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Deluxe Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S7 [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Sideswipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S8 [[Cog (G1)#Generations|Cog]] (Weaponizer)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S9 [[Hound (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Autobot Hound]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S10 [[Flywheels#War for Cybertron: Siege|Skytread]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S20 [[Chromia (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Chromia]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S21 [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ironhide]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S22 [[Six-Gun#Generations|Autobot Sixgun]] (Weaponizer)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S23 [[Prowl (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Prowl]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Brunt (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Brunt]] (Weaponizer)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S35 [[Red Alert (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Red Alert]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S36 [[Reflector (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Refraktor]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 4&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S41 [[Barricade (IDW)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Barricade]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S42 [[Impactor (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Autobot Impactor]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S43 [[Mirage (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Autobot Mirage]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; rowspan=4|[[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Deluxe-Cog.jpg|thumb|300px|Deluxe Class Weaponizer Cog]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Beyond wave 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Voyager Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S11 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S12 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S24 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S25 [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Soundwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S38 [[Springer (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Autobot Springer]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S39 [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Thundercracker]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFCS-Voyager-Soundwave.jpg|thumb|300px|Voyager Class Soundwave - Operation: Illumination.]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Beyond wave 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Leader Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S13 [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ultra Magnus]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S14 [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Decepticon Shockwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|witrh=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S40 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#S40|Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFCS-Leader-Shockwave.jpg|thumb|250px|No [[Onyx Prime]] armor? We. were. [[The Falling, Chapter 3: The Ground|ROBBED!]] (Leader Class Decepticon Shockwave)]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Wave 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Commander Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S28 [[Jetfire (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Jetfire]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFC-Siege-WFCS28-Commander-Jetfire.jpg|thumb|300px|Commander Class &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Skyfire&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; Jetfire]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Titan Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S29 [[Omega Supreme (G1)#Generations|Omega Supreme]] (w/ [[Countdown (G1)#Generations|Autobot Countdown]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFC-Siege-WFCS29-Titan-Omega-Supreme.jpg|thumb|300px|Titan Class Omega Supreme [[Devastator (G1)|(He&#039;s doomed)]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Exclusives===&lt;br /&gt;
====Store exclusives====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TBD&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S15 [[Greenlight#Generations|Autobot Greenlight]] &amp;amp; [[Dazlestrike#Toys|Dazlestrike]] {{sic}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFC-Siege-Deluxe-Greenlight-&amp;amp;-Battle-Master-Dazlestrike-multipack.jpg|thumb|250px|Deluxe Class Greenlight plus Dazlestrike]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Selects&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
Following in the footsteps of [[Arcee (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Arcee]], [[Grotusque#Generations|Grotusque]], and the three &#039;&#039;[[Prime Wars Trilogy]]&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Special Edition&amp;quot; figures in 2018, Hasbro debuted a special &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generations#Selects|Selects]]&#039;&#039; deco of Voyager Class Megatron at [[Toy Fair 2019]] to celebrate the &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039;. Announced at [[Toy Fair 2019]], Combat Megatron was exclusively available in the United States via online retailers such as [[BigBadToyStore]], [[Entertainment Earth]], TFSource, and Hasbro&#039;s new replacement for [[Hasbro Toy Shop]], [[Hasbro Pulse]].&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Hasbro Pulse&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d2|WFC-GS01 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#GS01|Combat Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:Selects-Voyager-CombatMegatron.jpg|thumb|250px|Voyager Class Combat Megatron]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==&#039;&#039;Siege&#039;&#039; (TakaraTomy)==&lt;br /&gt;
Like &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: The Last Knight (toyline)| The Last Knight]]&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;[[Studio Series]]&#039;&#039;, [[TakaraTomy]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;Transformers Siege&#039;&#039; (トランスフォーマー シージ) toyline sees their new &amp;quot;brand unification&amp;quot; strategy in full effect. As such, Takara &#039;&#039;Siege&#039;&#039; toys are completely identical to their [[Hasbro]] counterparts, just released in different waves and given new &amp;quot;ID&amp;quot; numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[February 23|Feb 23]], [[2019]])&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-01 [[Firebolt (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Firedrive]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-02 [[Lionizer (G1)#Generations|Lionizer]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-03 [[Roadhandler (G1)#Generations|Roadhandler]] &amp;amp; [[Swindler#Generations|Swindler]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-04 [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Sideswipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-05 [[Cog (G1)#Generations|Autobot Cog]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-06 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-07 [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ultra Magnus]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[March 30|Mar 30]], 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-08 [[Blowpipe (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Blowpipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-09 Autobot [[Big Shot#Generations|Topshot]] &amp;amp; [[Flak (G1)#Generations|Flak]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-10 [[Storm Cloud (G1)#Generations|Storm Cloud]] &amp;amp; [[Whisper (G1)#Generations|Visper]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-11 [[Flywheels#War for Cybertron: Siege|Skytread]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-12 [[Hound (G1)/toys#Generations|Autobot Hound]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-13 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-14 [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Shockwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[April 27|Apr 27]], 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-15 [[Aimless (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Aimless]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-16 [[Laserbeak (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Laserbeak]] &amp;amp; [[Ravage (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ravage]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-17 [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ironhide]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-18 [[Six-Gun#Generations|Autobot Six-Gun]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-19 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 4&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[May 25]], 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-20 [[Pteraxadon#Generations|Pteraxadon]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-21 [[Red Hot#Generations|Red Heat]] &amp;amp; [[Stakeout (G1)#Generations|Stakeout]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-22 [[Chromia (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Chromia]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-23 [[Prowl (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Prowl]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-24 [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Soundwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; rowspan=4|[[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Leader-Ultra-Magnus.jpg|thumb|300px|Leader Class Ultra Magnus (Hasbro and TakaraTomy versions are the same)]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 5&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[July 26]], 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-25 [[Brunt (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Brunt]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-26 [[Jetfire (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Jetfire]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Everything beyond wave 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*The names of many individual figures from this line were revealed by listings on [[Walmart]] and [[Amazon (website)|Amazon Australia]] prior to being formally unveiled by Hasbro at conventions.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Siege&#039;&#039; toys debuted at the tail end of October 2018 with the Voyager Class available from U.S. comic stores and private dealers, followed up by Battle Masters at [[Target]] on November 4, 2018.&lt;br /&gt;
*Deluxe Class Red Alert was accidentally revealed by Hasbro by being featured as the &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; figure in the [[stock photography|stock CG render]] showcasing the use of Brunt&#039;s Weaponizer parts released during New York Comic-Con in October 2018. Full on stock renders were found on different websites, such as [[Target]] and [[Amazon]] leading to [[Toy Fair 2019]], midway through February, where his existence was finally acknowledged. &lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Transformers:_Rescue_Bots_Academy_(cartoon)&amp;diff=1327856</id>
		<title>Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)</title>
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[[File:RescueBotsAcademyPoster.jpeg|thumb|right|250px|More rescues, more bots.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is an animated cartoon series developed by [[Boulder Media Studio]] as a sequel to &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Transformers: Rescue Bots]]&#039;&#039;, with [[Ben Ward]] as the lead writer. The series had a special advance premiere on [[December 8]], [[2018]], with the remaining episodes scheduled to begin airing on [[January 5]], [[2019]] on [[Discovery Family]] in the US and [[Pop TV]] in the UK. Two 52 episode seasons are currently planned, and like &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Transformers: Cyberverse]]&#039;&#039;, each episode runs for 11 minutes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://tvshowscancelled.com/transformers-rescue-bots-academy-renewed-for-season-2-by-discovery-family/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The voice cast of &#039;&#039;Rescue Bots&#039;&#039; did not reprise their roles, with existing characters being re-cast with voice actors from the same [[New York]]-based casting pool as &#039;&#039;Cyberverse&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Intended for more of a preschool audience than its predecessor, the series follows the first class of the new [[Rescue Bot Training Center|Rescue Bot Training Academy]], learning from the more experienced [[Rescue Bot]]s how to respond to emergency situations and become heroes.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{bigquote|&#039;&#039;Earth needed help and they answered the call,&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;No rescue too big, no hero too small.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;Recruits come to learn from the best of the best,&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;They&#039;ll be Rescue Bots too, if they pass the test!&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;|The [[theme song]].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cast==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl]] ([[Courtney Shaw]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Medix (RB)|Medix]] ([[Adam Andrianopoulous]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hoist (RB)|Hoist]] ([[Alan Trinca]])&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Chase (RB)|Chase]] ([[Frank Cwiklik]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Boulder]] ([[Keyon Williams]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Blades (RB)|Blades]] ([[Michael Hansen]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Episodes==&lt;br /&gt;
{{see|List of Rescue Bots Academy episodes}}&lt;br /&gt;
===Season 1 (2018-2019)===&lt;br /&gt;
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#&amp;quot;[[Recruits Part I]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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#&amp;quot;[[If at First...]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Tough Luck Chuck (episode)|Tough Luck Chuck]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Whirl&#039;d View]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Plan Bee]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[The Bot Who Cried Rescue]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Mount Botmore]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Mission Inaudible]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Glitch (episode)|Glitch]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Five Into Four]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Rescue Promo]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Blame Game]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Surprise, Medix!]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[The TX3000]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Little Bot Peep]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Driving a Wedge]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[The Big, Small Rescue]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Go, Team, Go!]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[About a Rock]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Dog Stray Afternoon]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Duck Luck]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Flight School]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Battle of the Bots]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#&amp;quot;[[Screen Time]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Season 2 (2020)===&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1327855</id>
		<title>Main Page/featured-series</title>
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Bump_(BW)&amp;diff=1323478</id>
		<title>Bump (BW)</title>
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:&#039;&#039;Bump is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (franchise)|Beast Wars Neo]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BWNeo Bump card1.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Bump sat alone in a boggy marsh/totally motionless except for his spark!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;Bump&#039;&#039;&#039; (バンプ &#039;&#039;Banpu&#039;&#039;) is exceedingly reserved in character. He rarely shows any extremities in emotion in any way, be it positive or negative. He believes only in [[Atechnogenesis|science]] and considers [[Religion|Cybertronian religions]] and beliefs to be nothing more than over-hyped fairy tales.&lt;br /&gt;
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The only time Bump is really happy is when he’s retreated into his own private little world of theorems, where he can perform all the experiments he wants without the distractions of others. Though quiet and oftentimes shy, Bump is still good-natured and respectful. Though responsible for many of their greatest weapons, he left the Maximal army when he grew tired of being limited to constructing machines of war. He now works on commission and only on projects that catch his interest. He&#039;s quite frugal with his pay and invests it all right back into his studies.&lt;br /&gt;
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Bump possesses many advanced sensors in his hands and is a quick-draw champion, but has very little actual combat experience.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fiction==&lt;br /&gt;
===&#039;&#039;Beast Wars Neo&#039;&#039; cartoon===&lt;br /&gt;
{{voiceactor|[[Eiji Takemoto]] (Japanese)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:BWN 19 Bump.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Small things so sad that birds could land]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Bump was a civilian scientist with no taste for warfare, so he immersed himself in researching the desert planet of [[Tasumo]]. Despite his civilian status, he brooked no interruption of his work, and would respond forcefully to such interference with his Claw Blaster beam gun and flail Chain Bomber weapons.&lt;br /&gt;
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When [[Big Convoy]]&#039;s Maximals landed on Tasumo in search of another [[Angolmois]] capsule, Bump was thoroughly annoyed at the interruption. So while they were away from their ship, he stole pieces of it and took them back to his lab. The Maximals returned and discovered the theft, then followed the tracks left on the ground from the dragged pieces to Bump&#039;s laboratory. A brief standoff followed, but eventually, Bump reluctantly agreed to show them the capsule he kept in a storehouse. As he did, the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] [[Guiledart]] and [[Sling (BWN)|Sling]] attacked and stole the capsule. (Curiously, Bump didn&#039;t seem to mind this destruction of his property as much as he did the Maximals&#039; landing.) The capsule turned out to be so decrepit that its energy had already transferred to another capsule, which didn&#039;t sit well with the Predacons. They were beaten away and the capsule was retrieved when Big Convoy arrived, so their opinion didn&#039;t amount to much. After the Maximals departed, they discovered Bump had also disconnected their ship&#039;s turbo mechanisms, hindering their pace, and they could only marvel at his sheer power. {{storylink|Bump the Physicist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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After the defeat of [[Unicron]], Bump returned to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], where he helped with reconstruction but was caught up in one of Big Convoy and [[Magmatron]]&#039;s tussles. {{storylink|Graduation Ceremony!!}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW &#039;&#039;Beast Wars&#039;&#039; comics===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Ascending Bump.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Mud flowed up into Bump&#039;s [[beast mode|pajamas]]/he totally confused all the passing [[Piranacon (G1)|piranhas]]!]]&lt;br /&gt;
Bump was hired by [[Lio Convoy]] for a rather unenviable task. After helping [[Big Convoy]] locate Lio&#039;s [[Pack|crew]], he was told to use the [[Angolmois]] that [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] acquired from [[Rartorata]] to develop a cure. The unenviable part: He needed to make enough for all of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Sigh. [[Unicron]] and his accursed [[Shokaract|vessel]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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After Shokaract was defeated, Bump finished the first batch of antidote. He could start mass-producing as soon as he had a proper lab. However, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] had [[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|other plans...]] {{storylink|The Ascending issue 4|The Ascending #4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Legends&#039;&#039; comic===&lt;br /&gt;
When [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] was turned into a real Transformer, Doctor Bump had a look at him and recognized the change as a symptom of [[Transformers sickness]], explaining the ailment was caused by surrounding yourself with &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; stuff. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 1|Bonus Edition Vol. 1}} He later diagnosed [[Optimus Primal (BW)|Optimus Primal]] with the same ailment, but this time his patient protested as unlike Rattrap he didn&#039;t collect &#039;&#039;Transformers&#039;&#039; toys. Without skipping a beat, Bump changed his diagnosis, telling Primal his transformation was caused by eating too many [[banana]]s. A mystery of modern medicine, to be sure. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 2|Bonus Edition Vol. 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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When Arcee also came in a case of Transformers sickness, Bump said she got it from Rattrap&#039;s toys and recommended that she throw them all out, but she angrily refused to discard her nephew&#039;s cherished toys. {{storylink|Transformers Legends: Arcee Chapter|Arcee Chapter}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===&lt;br /&gt;
{{first|[[New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen|Optimus Prime #1]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:NewCybertronPart1-BumpMidnightExpress.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Is Bump fast asleep or rockin&#039; out with the band?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Hailing from the colony world of [[Eukaris]], Bump and his best friend [[Gimlet]] were young Transformers who regularly attended religious sermons delivered by the [[Fateweaver]] [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. {{storylink|Time Will Rust}} While the colonies and their inhabitants had developed cultures that deified the [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]s, Bump suffered from a private crisis of faith regarding the [[Thirteen]] and their lineage, secretly wondering if perhaps the Primes were just ordinary &#039;bots like any other. {{storylink|Primeless, Part 2}} When [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] put out a call for help keeping the peace on [[Earth]] after his annexation of the planet into the [[Council of Worlds]], however, Bump stowed whatever doubts he had and joined Gimlet on their new mission, arriving shortly after Prime&#039;s defeat of [[Baron Karza]]. Soon, Bump and the other [[Colonist Soldiers|colonist squadmates]] took to wearing [[mouthplate]]s in honor of their leader. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:NewCybertronPart1-Bump.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Bump was limp and lonely and needed a shove/ Bump slipped on a [[kiss]] and tumbled into [[Transformer romance|love]]!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On one of their earliest missions, the colonists were deployed to [[Mexico City]] with [[Aileron]] to uphold the [[Tyrest Accord]] by locating and neutralizing a cache of stolen Cybertronian weapons. Their presence sparked an anti-Cybertronian protest that quickly turned into an all-out riot; sent in to control the crowds, [[Midnight Express (RID)|Midnight Express]] was shot by a protester wielding one of the black market guns. The severity of the situation prompted Optimus to intervene, bringing reinforcements in the shape of [[Soundwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Soundwave]], [[Arcee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Arcee]], and [[Jazz (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Jazz]], who swiftly dealt with the problem. Back aboard [[Metrotitan (Zone)|Autobot City]], the assembled colonists continued to praise their leader, which annoyed even Aileron. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen|To Walk Among the Chosen}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Bump and the other colonists later watched on as Optimus returned to base after opening a diplomatic channel with the recently-arrived [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]]s, and immediately bombarded their leader with questions about the new arrivals. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 2: A Lonely Pillar on the Plain|A Lonely Pillar on the Plain}} The colonists genuflected as Optimus Prime returned to Earth from Cybertron, much to their leader&#039;s dismay, and later watched on as [[Pyra Magna]] and Optimus fought over Prime&#039;s agnosticism regarding the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Bump joined the other Autobots as Optimus Prime negotiated a summit with several [[human]] governments... only to be interrupted by the Junkions, who sicced a horde of [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]]s on the event. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 4: Dance Among the Shadows|Dance Among the Shadows}} Bump participated in the battle to repel the Junkions from Metrotitan&#039;s deck, watching in awe as Optimus ordered his Titan to transform and seize the [[Quintesson Cruiser|Junkion mothership]]. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 5: Future Glories Lost|Future Glories Lost}} &lt;br /&gt;
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After Optimus Prime brokered a new ceasefire between the Junkions and Autobots, Bump and the other Transformers journeyed to [[Marshall Islands|Bikini Atoll]] to start the construction of &amp;quot;[[Little Cybertron]],&amp;quot; a permanent settlement on Earth for the Junkions. {{storylink|New Cybertron End: Feel Safe Without Regrets|Feel Safe Without Regrets}} The colonists took a break from construction to hold a funeral for the fallen [[Oiler]], who had perished in the battle. Their efforts did little to console Oiler&#039;s grieving sister [[Slide]]. {{storylink|The Next Day, and the Next}} &lt;br /&gt;
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A few days later, the colonists had started to grow bored of life on the island, and had taken to ignoring the Junkions after hours, preferring to hang out on the beach and feed the Sharkticons. After another day of hard work, they rolled out to do just that... unwittingly leaving Slide, who could no longer transform, behind in the dust. {{storylink|What It&#039;s Really Like}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:PrimelessPart1-ScaredColonists.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Bump lingered last in line for brains/And the one he got was sorta rotten and insane.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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When Earth formally joined the Council of Worlds, Bump and the other colonists joined Aileron in Metrotitan&#039;s [[space bridge|Space Bridge]] chamber to watch the proceedings from Earth — only for [[Joe Colton|Baron Ironblood]]&#039;s attack on Iacon to deactivate the space bridge and cut Earth off from Cybertron. With Prime and his retinue stranded on Cybertron, Aileron took command and brought the colonists with her on a mission to find Jazz, mostly to keep them from jeopardizing the delicate situation even further. The team tracked Jazz to the small [[Mexico|Mexican]] city of [[Oaxaca]], were they ran afoul of more humans wielding black-market Cybertronian guns. Falling back to the edge of the city, Bump watched as Slide and Aileron argued about Prime&#039;s motivations and their next course of action. As they headed north, the colonists began criticizing Aileron&#039;s decision to find Jazz over tracking down illegal arms shipments, right before a nearby explosion alerted them to Jazz, pinned down by more gun-wielding humans. {{storylink|Primeless, Part 1}} &lt;br /&gt;
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The colonists quickly intervened and managed to drive back most the humans on intimidation alone save for [[Mateo Chavez|one]], who, with some persuasion, took them back to a nearby ghost town to meet with the suppliers: the Decepticons [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], who had been using their [[holomatter]] avatars to facilitate an arms trade by smuggling weapons off [[Sanctuary Station]]. Realizing that any kind of punitive actions would only inflame delicate Autobot-Decepticon tensions, Aileron decided to cover up the situation entirely, with Jazz leaving to pursue his own mission. The colonists returned to Autobot City with the Decepticons and their stolen weapons in tow, with none of the other Autobots any the wiser about what had transpired. {{storylink|Primeless, Part 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The defeat of the [[Iron Ring]] allowed Iacon to reestablish contact with Autobot City; with the space bridge restored, Bump and most of the other colonists went to Cybertron to watch Optimus Prime preside over [[Sideswipe (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Sideswipe]]&#039;s funeral. {{storylink|The Dead Come Home, Part 1 (of 2)|The Dead Come Home, Part 1}} &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some time later, he and the other colonists returned to Autobot City, and argued with Slide about Prime&#039;s motives while the Prime himself presided over the opening of an energon mine in [[Kentucky]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of Primes}} As a new crisis on Cybertron unfolded, Metrotitan himself abandoned Earth and space bridged to Cybertron, leaving the colonists behind. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 3: The Ground|The Ground}} With nowhere else to go, they retreated to Little Cybertron to await further orders; while there, however, alarming news reports began to trickle in: Cybertron had abruptly lost contact with Velocitron. This was only the beginning: it quickly became apparent that [[Unicron/Generation 1|something]] was deliberately destroying the colonies, and both [[Devisiun (planet)|Devisiun]] and Bump&#039;s homeworld of Eukaris were the next to go.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The loss of her home galvanized Slide into action, and the Devisen grimly announced that it was time to end Prime&#039;s reign. {{storylink|Unstopped and Unstoppable}} To show that she hadn&#039;t forgotten her Autobot comrades, the way Prime seemingly had, Slide and the other colonists boarded [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] and stormed the [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] outpost by [[Mount Rushmore]] to rescue Jazz from human captivity. The team quickly ran up against the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s; when an emotional Gimlet smashed a human [[VAMP]] and fatally wounded [[Mainframe (G.I. Joe)|Mainframe]], he was sliced in half by [[Slag (G1)|Slug]] and instantly killed. Bump cradled his friend&#039;s body in his arms as Slug realized what he&#039;d done. {{storylink|Time Will Rust}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===&#039;&#039;Beast Wars: Uprising&#039;&#039;===&lt;br /&gt;
Bump was a member of the [[Resistance]] during the [[Grand Uprising]]. He oversaw the execution of [[Operation: Amputation]] with the Resistance leaders after the [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicon]] threat became clear. He provided numbers and logistic support to the analysis of available troops versus known Vehicon numbers. {{storylink|Derailment}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===Beast Wars Neo===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BWN-toy Bump.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|He&#039;s Bump, he&#039;s Bump, he&#039;s Bump!/what&#039;s in his [[Brain module|head]]?]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Bump&#039;&#039;&#039; (Basic, 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;C-38&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Chain Bomber&amp;quot; mace/leg, &amp;quot;Claw Blaster&amp;quot; blaster/leg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: A [[redeco]] of the &#039;&#039;[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]&#039;&#039; [[Armordillo#Beast Wars|Armordillo]] mold, Bump transforms into a Brazilian giant armadillo. He shifts to robot mode with a spring-loaded one-step transformation. His left rear beast-mode leg separates to form a non-firing blaster, while the right leg becomes a [[mace|chain-and-mace]] melee weapon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: This mold was also used to make [[Psycho-Orb#Robotmasters 2|Psycho-Orb]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::*&#039;&#039;[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Cybertron/Bump/bump.htm More information on Bump at TFU.info]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}{{anchor|VsPack}}&amp;lt;!--極限 = &amp;quot;Utmost Limits&amp;quot;? &amp;quot;Extremity&amp;quot;? --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:BWN-toy VS38box.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|He&#039;s Bump, he&#039;s Bump, he&#039;s Bump/He might be [[Death|dead]]!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;&#039;Utmost Limits Showdown: Bump VS Bazooka&#039;&#039;&#039; (Vs pack, 1999)&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Japanese ID number&#039;&#039;: &#039;&#039;&#039;VS-38&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
**&#039;&#039;Accessories&#039;&#039;: &amp;quot;Chain Bomber&amp;quot; mace/leg, &amp;quot;Claw Blaster&amp;quot; blaster/leg&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Bump was available both individually and in a two-pack with the Predacon [[Bazooka (BWN)#VsPack|Bazooka]]. Both toys were identical to their individual releases.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{-}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*His robot mode appears for all of seven seconds during the &#039;&#039;Beast Wars Neo&#039;&#039; cartoon series.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Beast Wars Maximals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars Neo Maximals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Beast Wars: Uprising Maximals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Eukaris]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 Autobots]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Japanese-original Transformers]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Legends Maximals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Medics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Resistance]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Scientists]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>War for Cybertron: Siege</title>
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[[File:WFC-Siege-Poster-ArkLaunchAutobots.jpg|thumb|250px|The stege begins.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;War For Cybertron: Siege&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039; is a [[subline imprint]] of the &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]&#039;&#039; toyline, and the first portion of the &#039;&#039;[[War for Cybertron Trilogy]]&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
First revealed in mid-[[2018]] at [[San Diego Comic-Con]], &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron: Siege&#039;&#039;, in keeping with the installments of the &#039;&#039;[[Prime Wars Trilogy]]&#039;&#039;, features a line-wide [[gimmick]]: weaponry. Most Deluxe, Voyager, and Leader Class figures each come with at least one or two weapons that can transform, combine, and/or be placed into any [[C.O.M.B.A.T. System]] posts, [[5 mm post]]s littered all over their bodies, essentially an updated version of the [[Powerlinx]] system. Another line-wide feature is battle-damaged paintjobs on Deluxe-and-up figures to fit with the gritty &amp;quot;war&amp;quot; aspect. Returning to this toyline are [[Micromaster]]s, which are bundled in two packs, replacing the Legends Class of the last half-decade, and are now able to combine into large weapons as well as transform into their vehicle form. This size class is also used for Soundwave&#039;s minions, who can turn into cassettes or be used as a shield with fold-out pegs. Replacing the [[Prime Master]]s from [[Power of the Primes (toyline)|the last toyline]] are &amp;quot;[[Battle Master]]s&amp;quot;, small [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]]-type figures that can combine with other weapons and figures. They include additional &amp;quot;Fire Blast&amp;quot; effect pieces that can be placed onto other weapons included with other size classes, as well as hardpoints on the figures themselves to simulate being &#039;shot&#039; or on the back of vehicles to simulate &amp;quot;rocket boosters&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;speed&amp;quot;, depending on the effect part. Each effect part attaches via a 3 mm hole, or in most cases, 5 mm posts too. Some Deluxe Class figures are classified as &amp;quot;Deluxe Weaponizers,&amp;quot; which can be disassembled into multiple weapons to be used in the C.O.M.B.A.T. System. Leader Class figures are very similar to &#039;&#039;Power of the Primes&#039;&#039;, in which smaller figures come with additional armor that can be be added to vehicle mode or robot mode to increase their size to become the height of a Leader Class figure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The boxes of the figures have black-light revealed [[Alphabet#Generation 1 alphabets|cybertronian script]] on them which can be put into the &amp;quot;[[Found a hidden code?]]&amp;quot; game on the Transformers website.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Toys==&lt;br /&gt;
===General retail===&lt;br /&gt;
====Battle Masters====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S1 [[Firebolt (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Firedrive]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S2 [[Lionizer (G1)#Generations|Lionizer]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S3 [[Blowpipe (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Blowpipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S16 [[Pteraxadon#Generations|Pteraxadon]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S17 [[Aimless (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Aimless]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Future waves&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S30 [[Caliburst (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Caliburst]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S31 [[Smashdown#War for Cybertron: Siege|Smashdown]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Battle-Master-Lionizer.jpg|thumb|200px|Battle Master Lionizer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Beyond wave 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Micromasters====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S4 [[Roadhandler (G1)#Generations|Roadhandler]] &amp;amp; [[Swindler#Generations|Swindler]] ([[Race Car Patrol#Generations|Race Car Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S5 [[Storm Cloud (G1)#Generations|Storm Cloud]] &amp;amp; [[Whisper (G1)#Generations|Visper]] ([[Air Strike Patrol#Generations|Air Strike Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S6 [[Big Shot#Generations|Autobot Topshot]] &amp;amp; [[Flak (G1)#Generations|Flak]] ([[Battle Patrol#Generations|Battle Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S18 [[Laserbeak (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Laserbeak]] &amp;amp; [[Ravage (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ravage]] ([[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Soundwave Spy Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S19 [[Red Hot#Generations|Red Heat]] &amp;amp; [[Stakeout (G1)#Generations|Stakeout]] ([[Rescue Patrol (G1)#Generations|Rescue Patrol]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Micro-Master-Battle-Patrol.jpg|thumb|300px|Micromasters Autobot Topshot and Flak]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Deluxe Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S7 [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Sideswipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S8 [[Cog (G1)#Generations|Cog]] (Weaponizer)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S9 [[Hound (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Autobot Hound]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S10 [[Flywheels#War for Cybertron: Siege|Skytread]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S20 [[Chromia (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Chromia]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S21 [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ironhide]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S22 [[Six-Gun#Generations|Autobot Sixgun]] (Weaponizer)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S23 [[Prowl (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Prowl]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Brunt (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Brunt]] (Weaponizer)}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S35 [[Red Alert (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Red Alert]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|[[Reflector (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Refraktor]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 4&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S42 [[Impactor (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Autobot Impactor]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S43 [[Mirage (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Autobot Mirage]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; rowspan=4|[[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Deluxe-Cog.jpg|thumb|300px|Deluxe Class Weaponizer Cog]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Beyond wave 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Voyager Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S11 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S12 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S24 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S25 [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Soundwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S38 [[Springer (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Autobot Springer]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S39 [[Thundercracker (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Thundercracker]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFCS-Voyager-Soundwave.jpg|thumb|300px|Voyager Class Soundwave - Operation: Illumination.]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Beyond wave 1}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Leader Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S13 [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ultra Magnus]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|WFC-S14 [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Decepticon Shockwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|witrh=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S40 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#S40|Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFCS-Leader-Shockwave.jpg|thumb|250px|No [[Onyx Prime]] armor? We. were. [[The Falling, Chapter 3: The Ground|ROBBED!]] (Leader Class Decepticon Shockwave)]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|Wave 2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Commander Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S28 [[Jetfire (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|&amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Sky&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt;Jetfire]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFC-Siege-WFCS28-Commander-Jetfire.jpg|thumb|300px|Commander Class &amp;lt;strike&amp;gt;Skyfire&amp;lt;/strike&amp;gt; Jetfire]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====Titan Class====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S29 [[Omega Supreme (G1)#Generations|Omega Supreme]] (w/ [[Countdown (G1)#Generations|Autobot Countdown]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFC-Siege-WFCS29-Titan-Omega-Supreme.jpg|thumb|300px|Titan Class Omega Supreme]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Exclusives===&lt;br /&gt;
====Store exclusives====&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;TBD&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|WFC-S15 [[Greenlight#Generations|Autobot Greenlight]] &amp;amp; [[Dazlestrike#Toys|Dazlestrike]] {{sic}}}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:WFC-Siege-Deluxe-Greenlight-&amp;amp;-Battle-Master-Dazlestrike-multipack.jpg|thumb|250px|Deluxe Class Greenlight plus Dazlestrike]]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====&#039;&#039;Selects&#039;&#039;====&lt;br /&gt;
Similarly to the three &#039;&#039;[[Prime Wars Trilogy]]&#039;&#039; &amp;quot;Special Edition&amp;quot; figures in 2018, Hasbro debuted a special &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Generations#Selects|Selects]]&#039;&#039; deco of Voyager Class Megatron at [[Toy Fair 2019]] to celebrate the &#039;&#039;War for Cybertron Trilogy&#039;&#039;. Announced at [[Toy Fair 2019]], Combat Megatron was exclusively available in the United States via online retailers such as [[BigBadToyStore]], [[Entertainment Earth]], TFSource and Hasbro&#039;s new replacement for [[Hasbro Toy Shop]], [[Hasbro Pulse]].&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Hasbro Pulse&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d2|WFC-GS01 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#GS01|Combat Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[File:Selects-Voyager-CombatMegatron.jpg|thumb|250px|Voyager Class Combat Megatron]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==&#039;&#039;Siege&#039;&#039; (TakaraTomy)==&lt;br /&gt;
Like &#039;&#039;[[Transformers: The Last Knight (toyline)| The Last Knight]]&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]&#039;&#039;, and &#039;&#039;[[Studio Series]]&#039;&#039;, [[TakaraTomy]]&#039;s &#039;&#039;Transformers Siege&#039;&#039; (トランスフォーマー シージ) toyline sees their new &amp;quot;brand unification&amp;quot; strategy in full effect. As such, Takara &#039;&#039;Siege&#039;&#039; toys are completely identical to their [[Hasbro]] counterparts, just released in different waves and given new &amp;quot;ID&amp;quot; numbers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| style=&amp;quot;margin-left:1em;&amp;quot; width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 1&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[February 23|Feb 23]], [[2019]])&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-01 [[Firebolt (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Firedrive]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-02 [[Lionizer (G1)#Generations|Lionizer]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-03 [[Roadhandler (G1)#Generations|Roadhandler]] &amp;amp; [[Swindler#Generations|Swindler]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-04 [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Sideswipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-05 [[Cog (G1)#Generations|Autobot Cog]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-06 [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Optimus Prime]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-07 [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ultra Magnus]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 2&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[March 30|Mar 30]], 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-08 [[Blowpipe (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Blowpipe]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-09 Autobot [[Big Shot#Generations|Topshot]] &amp;amp; [[Flak (G1)#Generations|Flak]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-10 [[Storm Cloud (G1)#Generations|Storm Cloud]] &amp;amp; [[Whisper (G1)#Generations|Visper]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-11 [[Flywheels#War for Cybertron: Siege|Skytread]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-12 [[Hound (G1)/toys#Generations|Autobot Hound]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-13 [[Megatron (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Megatron]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-14 [[Shockwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Shockwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 3&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[April 27|Apr 27]], 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-15 [[Aimless (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Aimless]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-16 [[Laserbeak (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Laserbeak]] &amp;amp; [[Ravage (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ravage]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-17 [[Ironhide (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Ironhide]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-18 [[Six-Gun#Generations|Autobot Six-Gun]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-19 [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 4&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[May 25]], 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-20 [[Pteraxadon#Generations|Pteraxadon]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-21 [[Red Hot#Generations|Red Heat]] &amp;amp; [[Stakeout (G1)#Generations|Stakeout]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-22 [[Chromia (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Chromia]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-23 [[Prowl (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Prowl]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-24 [[Soundwave (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Soundwave]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot; rowspan=4|[[File:War-for-Cybertron-Siege-Leader-Ultra-Magnus.jpg|thumb|300px|Leader Class Ultra Magnus (Hasbro and TakaraTomy versions are the same)]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|width=&amp;quot;20%&amp;quot; valign=&amp;quot;top&amp;quot;|&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Wave 5&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; ([[July 26]], 2019)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ul class=&amp;quot;iconlist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-d1|SG-25 [[Brunt (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Brunt]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bp-a1|SG-26 [[Jetfire (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Jetfire]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ul&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
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|}&lt;br /&gt;
{{comingsoontoy|All waves}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
*The names of many individual figures from this line were revealed by listings on [[Walmart]] and [[Amazon (website)|Amazon Australia]] prior to being formally unveiled by Hasbro at conventions.&lt;br /&gt;
*&#039;&#039;Siege&#039;&#039; toys debuted at the tail end of October 2018 with the Voyager Class available from U.S. comic stores and private dealers, followed up by Battle Masters at [[Target]] on November 4, 2018.&lt;br /&gt;
*Deluxe Class Red Alert was accidentally revealed by Hasbro by being featured as the &amp;quot;core&amp;quot; figure in the [[stock photography|stock CG render]] showcasing the use of Brunt&#039;s Weaponizer parts released during New York Comic-Con in October 2018. Full on stock renders were found on different websites, such as [[Target]] and [[Amazon]] leading to [[Toy Fair 2019]], midway through February, where his existence was finally acknowledged. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Generations| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Subline imprint]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Toylines]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1323308</id>
		<title>Main Page/featured-series</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Main_Page/featured-series&amp;diff=1323308"/>
		<updated>2019-02-18T06:45:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: &lt;/p&gt;
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[[File:Bumblebeelogo.jpg|250px|link=Bumblebee (franchise)]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;[[Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee]]&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Digital release&#039;&#039;&#039;: March 19 — &#039;&#039;&#039;DVD/Blu-Ray release&#039;&#039;&#039;: April 2&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Cyberverse 2018 logo.png|200px|link=Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)]] &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;[[Eruption]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:IDW Transformers Jan 2019 logo.png|225px|link=IDW Publishing]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Historia]]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Star Trek vs. Transformers]]&#039;&#039; #4: &amp;quot;[[Prime&#039;s Directive, Part Four]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;[[Transformers: Bumblebee - Go For the Gold]]&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;{{gb|Go-Bots}}&#039;&#039; {{gb|Go-Bots issue 3|#3}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;[[The TX3000]]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
		<id>https://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Tigerhawk&amp;diff=1320323</id>
		<title>Talk:Tigerhawk</title>
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		<updated>2019-02-05T17:51:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;KilMichaelMcC: /* Tiger Hawk and Razorclaw */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==CGI beast mode==&lt;br /&gt;
:I appreciate the artsy silhouette, but this article needs one good screencapture of him in beast mode to show what he looked like.  There were some differences between toy and show model.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:39, 28 December 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Predacon==&lt;br /&gt;
If only they did the same thing to [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I was just thinking...since Robot Je-I mean Tigerhawk&#039;s beast mode is made up of traits from two separate animals, shouldn&#039;t he technically be classified as a Fuzor? -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 17:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:If he&#039;s not called a Fuzor, then he&#039;s not a Fuzor. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 18:57, 26 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Was he ever actually called a Transmetal 2 in anything besides his box?--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 03:28, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Probably not, but it still counts.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:57, 27 October 2007 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==fuzor==&lt;br /&gt;
When I when to a TF website, I read something about tigerhawk and it was mentioned to be a transmetal fuzor. [[User:Black rhino ranger|Black rhino ranger]] 10:00, 17 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Did you see the discussion IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING YOUR COMMENT?  Tigerhawk was never called a fuzor in official materials.  Ergo, he is not a fuzor for the purposes of this Wiki.  The end.  [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 11:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The Notes say that the allspark almanac says he&#039;s a fuzor but I can&#039;t find where it says so. --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 14:10, 28 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hehehe... that&#039;s in the crossword.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 14:13, 28 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 14:14, 28 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I glare in your general direction, Jim. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:57, 28 July 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Wheels? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The wheels on the tops of Tigerhawk&#039;s wings...is that a leftover from his aborted &amp;quot;third mode&amp;quot;?  I don&#039;t see them mentioned in the actual text here... --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 00:41, 3 May 2013 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Tiger Hawk and Razorclaw ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Why are the Tigerhawk and Razorclaw articles paired, for lack of a better term?--[[User:Metalstar|Metalstar]] ([[User talk:Metalstar|talk]]) 12:47, 5 February 2019 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Know tha you can read Razorclaw&#039;s article and see the reason for yourself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] ([[User talk:KilMichaelMcC|talk]]) 12:51, 5 February 2019 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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