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Grimlock (Animated)

2017-11-08T01:54:54Z

Kyogreswimming: /* Animated */ - You know you can cram the sword in his mouth, right?

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:''Grimlock is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:TFAnimated Grimlock.jpg|right|256px|thumb|Some people got collar and cuffs, me Grimlock got collar and brass knuckles.]]
'''Grimlock''' is a ''Tyrannosaurus rex'' in charge of a small, three-mech group of dinosaur transformers known as the [[Dinobot (Animated)|Dinobots]]. Born from a fusion of Earth and Cybertronian technology, with some [[AllSpark]] intervention thrown in, he's a force to be reckoned with. A little short on brains (at first he didn't actually realise he was a Transformer) and a lot short on temper, Grimlock's answer to a problem is usually the simplest: squash it, slash it, bite it, burn it, or eat it.

Physically, Grimlock is one of the most powerful Transformers, with enough brute strength to give even the likes of Megatron pause for thought. In his [[beast mode]], his powerful jaws and flame breath give him excellent short- and long-range combat abilities, while his flaming sword is an effective weapon in [[robot mode]]. Factor in his temper, and facing Grimlock can be a terrifying experience.

Currently, Grimlock and his fellow Dinobots are living on [[Dinobot Island (Animated)|an island]] in Lake Erie, hidden there by [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] and [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] from the rest of the world. But don't think he's not willing to come to the mainland, find the biggest 'Con around and feed 'em their own chassis after he's eaten his fill of it. After all, him Grimlock badass.

{{bigquote|No one tell me Grimlock how to fight!|Grimlock, rebel without a cause|"[[Black Friday (episode)|Black Friday]]"}}

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[David Kaye]] (English), [[Keiji Fujiwara]] (Japanese)|[[Alexander Kovriznyh]] (Russian), [[Dieter Memel]] (German), [[Mario Zucca]] (Italian), [[Ricardo Soto]] (Latin American Spanish, seasons 1 and 2), [[Maciej Walentek]] (Polish, episodes 6, 12, 15, 17, 23, 26), [[Juha Paananen]] (Finnish)}}

[[File:Grimlockanimatedinskin.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|Cars shot me T-rex, out come me Grimlock! Him [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]] sure blew it.]]
Grimlock, [[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]], and [[Swoop (Animated)|Swoop]] were originally theme park animatronic displays that [[Isaac Sumdac (Animated)|Isaac Sumdac]] upgraded with the help of [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] and a flash of [[spark]] from the [[AllSpark Key]]. When they came online, Grimlock dubbed himself the Dinobot leader, despite Megatron's commands. However, [[Tutor Bot]] brought up videos on how cars use fossil fuels. Grimlock believed this to mean that cars ate [[dinosaur (dinosaur)|dinosaurs]], and Megatron convinced them to destroy the "fossil feeders", including the only thing worse than cars...cars and trucks that turn into robots.

[[File:Grimlockanimatedbeastmode.jpg|right|upright=0.85|thumb|Me Grimlock beginning to [[Repeat Performance!|hate black sticky stuff!]]]]
As the Dinobots raged against the machines, the Autobots drew them away from the city towards a park. Finally getting out of his funk, [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]] managed to throw them into a parking lot that their fire breath had melted into tar, trapping the Dinobots. After their defeat, they were imprisoned in an energy cage and were scheduled for meltdown. Believing they had life and were not just some mindless machines, [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] freed the Dinobots with the help of Bulkhead and secretly relocated them to an island.

Dwelling within the peaceful forest, Grimlock dubbed cars and trucks bad, but nature good—until two birds pooped on him. Redubbing
nature stupid, Grimlock expected the two birds to fight like Dinobots, but they escaped! Tail twitching and stomach opening, Grimlock [[Transformation|transformed]], shocking Snarl and Swoop. He drew a [[Sword|huge, blazing sword]] and decided he liked the results. {{storylink|Blast from the Past}}

He was later forced by the villain [[Meltdown (Animated)|Meltdown]] to attack Sari's would-be rescuers, Prowl and Bulkhead. Once Meltdown was trapped and unable to hurt him, he demonstrated he'd learned to transform and joined his fellow Dinobots in threatening the acid-thrower. However, before Meltdown could be hurt, Grimlock's attention was diverted to [[Colossus Rhodes]] and two of Meltdown's mutants, and he and the other Dinobots beat up on them instead. {{storylink|Survival of the Fittest}}

Shortly after this, the Autobots learned that the [[Decepticon]]s were mobilizing, and Bulkhead spilled the beans on the Dinobots' location. Seriously pissed, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Prime]] had them take him to [[Dinobot Island (Animated)|Dinobot Island]], where he tried to convince the Dinobots to help them fight the Decepticons. Grimlock was...uninterested, to say the least. He told Prime that Dinobots didn't need robots to fight, but that they would destroy robots. When Prime pointed out that the Dinobots ''were'' robots, this seemed to compel them to fight each other. When Grimlock gives an order, the Dinobots carry it out without question. {{storylink|Megatron Rising - Part 1}}

[[File:Animated cartoon Grimlock Sentinel Prime.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Me Grimlock say you jerk!]]
When Optimus brought [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel]] to see [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|his damaged ship]], which had crashed into Dinobot Island as a result of [[Megatron Rising - Part 2|a recent Decepticon attack]], the Dinobots showed up. Optimus advised the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guardsbots]] that as long as the Dinobots weren't provoked, they wouldn't attack. Sentinel thought they were just primitive scrap heaps and acted like it. Grimlock responded by transforming, taking out his sword and knocking the jerk flying. Alas, neither he nor the other Dinobots could withstand the elemental lightning summoned by Ultra Magnus, Bot of Thunder. {{storylink|The Elite Guard}}

[[File:T-Rex Ambush Predator.JPG|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Prowl learned T-rex defensive tactics from ''[[Jurassic Park]]''. Sadly, Grimlock never watched that movie.]]
Later, reports reached the Autobots of rampages on Dinobot Island, and Optimus sent Prowl and Bulkhead, the only two Autobots the Dinobots accepted, to investigate. Prowl's disbelief at the idea that the territorial but relatively peaceful Dinobots would be going on rampages was quickly dispelled when a furious Grimlock burst from the bushes and charged. He easily thrashed the two Autobots, and in his rage would have roasted a nest full of baby birds if Prowl hadn't used [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]]'s loaned [[Electromagnetic pulse|EMP]] generator to drop the massive beast. But a blast that would have knocked out an Autobot for a while merely dropped Grimlock for a moment, and a few seconds later, he began to wake up. Upon examination, it was revealed that Grimlock had a large piece of metal embedded in his foot, and the pain had driven him mad. Prowl used the EMP generator to loosen the shard while Bulkhead yanked it out, and an exhausted Grimlock collapsed and allowed the Autobots to fix him up. {{storylink|A Fistful of Energon}}

[[File:TFA Black Friday ME GRIMLOCK IN LOVE.jpg|left|thumb|I, Grimlock, am hot-headed when in love, wot.]]
When [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] washed ashore after the defeat of Megatron, the Dinobots took her in as one of their own. Ever the [[wikipedia:Alpha (biology)|alpha male]], Grimlock was quick to remind Swoop and Snarl that "Spider-Lady like me Grimlock best" (he was taller than them), and was not above using violence to drive the point home. After Blackarachnia discovered Meltdown's genetic research, she had the Dinobots take Meltdown from prison. When the Autobots arrived to investigate, Prowl and [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] were poisoned with venom, and Grimlock accompanied Optimus Prime to the mainland to help him find the [[Genetic modifier|genetic thingy]] that Meltdown needed.

[[File:Animated Black Friday Grimlock Prime Powell.jpg|right|thumb|Me Grimlock will love you and hug you and feed you and pet you and hug you and love you and call you George.]] Grimlock refused to listen to Prime's claims that Blackarachnia was using them, and he tore through the city to show the "puny humans" that "Dinobots rule". Arriving at [[Sumdac Tower]], Grimlock threatened [[Porter C. Powell]] with becoming lunch, which convinced the businessman to surrender the modifier. When the two Autobots returned to the island, Meltdown turned the tables on them, planning to remove Blackarachnia's technological half and leave him with an organic Transformer. To delay Grimlock and Prime, Meltdown sicced [[Fusion creature|his experiments]] on them. Grimlock nearly burned down half the forest while fighting "bad bat", but the other Dinobots arrived and helped them defeat the monsters while Prime put out the fire. After Prime defeated Meltdown, Blackarachnia urged him to hold her, causing Grimlock to attack Prime in jealousy. However, it was a trick to allow Blackarachnia time to escape, as Prime had predicted. Practically in tears, Grimlock begged Blackarachnia to return, saying he loved her, but all for naught. {{storylink|Black Friday (episode)|Black Friday}}

He later looked on as an oil rig with the Constructicons appeared out of nowhere and exploded off Dinobot Island. {{storylink|Three's a Crowd}}

Grimlock and the Dinobots once again fall under Blackarachnia's sway. After having Swoop abduct [[Wasp]] she orders the Dinobots to stand guard. Sentinel Prime, along with [[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorm]] and [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]], sneak onto Dinobot Island to retrieve Wasp. Sentinel tells the Jet twins to create a diversion to get the Dinobots away from the enterance so he can sneak into Blackarachnia's lab. Grimlock is tricked into chasing Jetstorm and was [[to sell toys|defeated off camera]]. {{storylink|Predacons Rising (Animated)|Predacons Rising}}

Later when Sari went to get the help of the Dinobots to fight [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]], Grimlock and Swoop refused to help her. When she asked about Snarl, Grimlock told her they kicked him out after he decided to become [[Scrapper (Animated)|Scrapper]]'s pet. {{storylink|Human Error, Part II}}

===Titan ''Animated'' comic===
[[File:Titan23 Grimlockvsswoop.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|ONLY ME GRIMLOCK have speaking parts!]]

One day, it was raining really badly and making Grimlock's joints all stiff. Grimlock hate that! Then [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|that small girl thing]] came to Dinobot Island; Grimlock almost ate her as a trespasser, but then she said the Dinobots could stay in the Autobots' base until it stopped raining and all they had to do in return was hit [[Starscream (Animated)|some annoying guy]] and [[Starscream clone (Animated)|his clones]]. Plus, he got a souvenir in the form of a ripped off clone arm. Sari Grimlock's friend!

[[Simon Furman|Grimlock]] thinks there should be clones of ''him'' as the world needs more Grimlock! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 17|Dino-MIGHT!}}

Another day, the other Dinobots were sick and it made them attack Grimlock! Grimlock get hurt! Grimlock send an distress signal to other Autobots by means unknown! Small girl thing save him with [[AllSpark Key|even smaller glowy thing]], so he not eat her. {{storylink|Animated Comic issue 2|Ratchet & Grimlock Are DEAD?}}

Bah! Swoop keep questioning Grimlock! ''HOW DARE'' he disagree with Grimlock! Grimlock kick Swoop out of Dinobots! Bah! How dare Swoop... oh, cows ''do'' give milk like Swoop said? Well... Swoop still sucks, shut up Snarl! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Divebomb}}
{{--}}

===Animated shorts===
[[File:BulkheadandGrimlock.gif|thumb|right|upright=1.15|Me Grimlock like fetch, let's play again. <br> Did me Grimlock really just say that?]]

Grimlock eagerly played fetch with Bulkhead using a tree. [[Animation error|Then it disappeared]]. {{storylink|Catch}}

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===''The Cool'' comic===
[[File:TheCoolPrimeGrimWrestle01.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left]]

When [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]] and [[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]] attacked Dinobot Island, the Dinobots responded immediately to the threat. Grimlock was particularly annoyed by Soundwave's sonic attacks and smashed the villain with his tail. The Decepticons were quickly driven off. [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] attempted to greet the Dinobots and thank them for their aid, but Grimlock responded simply by attacking Prime and demanding he leave as well. After a while, the two resolved their differences, the Dinobots promising to help the Autobots in time of battle, and parted as friends. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 3}}

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==Toys==
===Animated===
[[File:Grimlock Animated Toy.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Me Grimlock like. But want crown accessory.]]
*'''Grimlock''' (Voyager, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-17'''
**''Accessories'': Flaming sword

: Part of the third wave of ''Animated'' Voyagers, Grimlock transforms into a robotic [[Popular beast alternate modes|''Tyrannosaurus rex'']] with a spring-loaded chompy-jaw. A mechanized switch in the right [[robot mode]] wrist interacts with a spring-loaded feature in his fiery sword, revealing pop-out flames when the wrist is tilted. Purely by coincidence, a peg on his left leg is the exact right size to serve as a [[Powerlinx]] port for any [[Mini-Con]].

: The [[Instructions|instruction sheet]] for this toy has an error in step two, in which his mid-back region (with the three hash marks on either side) is shown as both unfolding backwards to form part of his feet ''and'' staying where it is. Also, despite a claim on the packaging that Grimlock's sword can be fitted into his [[beast mode]]'s mouth to simulate breathing fire, it does not actually tab in anywhere; however, you can still cram it in his mouth to get the same effect.

: Some Grimlocks have been reported with legs that are impossible to shorten into arms for robot mode. Others contract, but the two halves of the thighs/shoulders start to separate when they do. Others still have no problem. It looks like a quality control issue rather than a running change to fix the problem, as the most recently bought Grimlocks still suffer with this issue.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/Grimlock/grimlock.htm More information on Grimlock at TFU.info]''

{{-}}{{Anchor|Goldfire}}
[[File:Animated-toy Goldfire Grimlock.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|Recession? What recession? Me Grimlock just Goldman-Sachs executive.]]
*'''Goldfire Grimlock''' (Voyager)
**''Accessories'': Flaming sword

: Goldfire Grimlock appears to be a [[redeco]] of his Voyager toy, sporting a gold and black color scheme, with a few silver parts too. Me, Grimlock, King!

{{canceledtoy}}

{{-}}{{anchor|Activator}}
[[File:ActivatorGrimlock.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Tonight, on Jurassic Fight Club: Nanotyrannus!]]
*'''Grimlock''' (Activator, 2008)

: Part of the third assortment of [[Activators]], this is a smaller, simplified version of the larger Grimlock toy. He features a spring-loaded [[Autotransformation|auto-transformation]] from beast to robot mode.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/ActGrimlock/grimlock.htm More information on Activators Grimlock at TFU.info]''

{{-}}{{Anchor|Fireblast}}
[[File:Animated-toy FireblastGrimlock.JPG|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Me Grimlock not [[The Fallen|Fallen]], Me Grimlock King!]]
*'''Fireblast Grimlock''' (Activator, 2009)

: A fiery redeco of Activators Grimlock with details based on cracked volcanic rock.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/ActFireblastGrimlock/grimlock.htm More information on Fireblast Grimlock at TFU.info]''

{{-}}{{anchor|AnimatedSuperCollection}}
[[File:AnimatedSuperCollectionVol2Grimlock.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Animated Super Collection Vol. 2''' (multipack, 2010)

: Released on [[October 2]]nd in Japan, the "Animated Super Collection Vol. 2" giftset contained slight redecos of Activators Grimlock, [[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]], [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] and [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]]. The Autobot insignia on Grimlock's left flank went from silver to a more traditional red and white.

:While the [[stock photography]] of the individual toys showed Animated Super Collection Grimlock as being darker grey and bronze than its American counterpart, this seems to have been a trick of the lighting, as the released toy remained its standard colors.

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==Notes==
* Grimlock took his name by forming a portmanteau out of a sentence spoken by Megatron: "My prospects are '''grim''', '''lock'''ed in this prison of a lab." Who knew he had it in him? For the entirety of seasons 1 and 2, he was the only Dinobot in the cartoon to have a name. This changed when Snarl finally received his name from Scrapper in mid-season 3. (Swoop wasn't named in the show at all.)
* He's still the only ''Animated'' Dinobot actually to speak. He may not talk pretty, but maybe he deserves some credit for making it THAT far.
* "Megatron Rising, Part 2" almost had a scene where Megatron fought (and thrashed) the Dinobots on Dinobot Island. It was cut for time.
* Grimlock's [[Mario Zucca|Italian voice actor]] is the same as [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]'s; a deliberate casting choice.
* And likewise goes for his [[Keiji Fujiwara|Japanese voice actor]]! Grimlock even shares the same verbal tic as Japanese Dinobot; a habit of saying "dā" at the end of his sentences.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Grimlock''' (グリムロック ''Gurimurokku'')

[[Category:Animated Autobots]]
[[Category:Dinobots]]
[[Category:Hall of Fame characters]]

Talk:Inferno (BW)

2017-04-27T14:00:20Z

Kyogreswimming: /* Vehicon bio */

Should we bother with foreign names if they're the same as the English and spelled the same way? I'd drop the French name (keeping the Spanish), but I can be convinced otherwise, if there's some technicality I'm overlooking. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

: That's what I've been doing. I mean, we don't list "Japanese name:" for all the characters who didn't get a name-change in Japan. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

== TM Scavenger ==

What are we going to do with regards to Transmetal Scavenger? All signs point to Scavenger actually being Inferno: the Beast Wars Metals toy is called "Inferno" and Scavenger's specs certinly act like Scavenger is a pre-existing character. Also, aside from the Ultra Transmetals, all of the Transmetal characters (including McDonalds) had pre-transmetal toys, and were featured in the show.

I've heard the reason Hasbro/Kenner changed the name to Scavenger was because of the Inferno colonies warming store shelves. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

:That's a footnote for his Toys section (a secton frequently unused, as people just stick a TFU.info link in the External links.)
:I think the theory just as you put forth (inferno warming shelves) ie pretty well documented by this point, and no one seems to disagree that's probably the reason. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

: Scavenger's a separate dude. IDW BW comic. The whole "originally designed to be" thing can and should be noted, and the "Metals Inferno" toy should definitely be part of this entry... but the US version ain't Inferno. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

::The IDW BW comic sucked so bad. -[[User:LV|LV]] 20:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Yes. Yes, it did. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

::::But Claw Jaw was awesome in it! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I recall when I bought TM Scavenger it rang up Inferno on the receipt.

==Personality==
I always figured that Inferno's beast mode overrode his personality because hotswapped Inferno's personality chip in mid-programming. [[User:216.151.95.158|216.151.95.158]] 16:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)(Jameel)

== Unreleased Toy? ==

Some time ago, I recall seeing photos of Botcon 2006 Waspinator being shown with a red redeco of RID Towline, intended to represent Inferno's pre-beast wars form. Yet now, I can find no evidence of such photos. Does anyone else recall seeing such photos?
[[User:Megatronacepticon|Megatronacepticon]] 05:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
: You might be thinking of [[Inferno (BW)#Universe toy bios|this]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:: Cheers, but that wasn't it. [[User:Megatronacepticon|Megatronacepticon]] 08:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

The bit about the general life a drone ant is interesting, but irrelevant to Inferno. Inferno's beast form is not a drone; it's a worker. Nevermind the anatomical differences (drones typically have wings), but Inferno's personality doesn't match that of a drone either. Inferno identifies himself as a "soldier and defender of the colony," which matches the duties of a female worker ant, which are sterile, and thus cannot mate.--[[User:General Cicadacon|General Cicadacon]] 13:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

==Vehicon bio==
I question the canon-icity of this item. Was the bio officially approved by Hasbro? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:Eh. I assumed that since it was a product of BotCon, it was official. I think the fact that those "official customs" exist should still be noted ''somewhere'' (if only for the fact that they're totally obscure) if we decide to delete this page.

:Maybe they're in the same limbo as [[Nightracer (G2)|Nightracer]]? [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

:If the bio was never approved, that should be noted. Otherwise, the page is okay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Let's all agree that Inferno has identity issues, alright?- Kyogreswimming

== Trivia error ==

"Like Waspinator, Inferno's beast mode is female, as the only male ants are the kings, which Inferno, due to his lack of wings, clearly is not. So, like Waspinator (and to some extent Tigatron), he has the distinction of being a guy in a girl's body. " This is utterly fabricated, male ants do not have wings, male ants never even leave the hive. They only mate with queens. There's no such thing as "kings" with fire ants either. Inferno is indeed "female", but in behavior, it has nothing to do with the lack of wings.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 11:15, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
:They have wings, just like queens, they leave the hive, fly off together with the young queens find each other, mate, land, loose their wings and start a new hive, and die, being a male ant and Wasp sucks. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:18, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
::This is the first I've ever heard that ants have "kings." They have drones! Google search for "Ant king" turns up nothing but cartoon titles. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:22, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Excactly, what was the person who added that trivia smoking?--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 16:41, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I think certain species of termites have kings, however... Termites aren't ants [[User:Mecheon|Mecheon]] 21:45, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

==Split?==

I didn't add the tag, but I see Eire put it up about a month and half ago. And so far, there's been no discussion. Since both non-Predacon Infernoes are from alternate dimensions, it seems like we should split them off the same way we have [[Galvatron II]]. I'd say they're the exact same case: A character that starts off identical to the standard character but then their timeline changes and thus changes them. Unless of course, Galvatron II was split off for length and not content, in which case my argument holds no water. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 00:29, 19 September 2009 (EDT)
:It was decided a while before the crash that alternate ''Universe'' dudes were to be merged into their respective articles. Galvatron II only gets his own page because he got a toy that made him an unique iteration of the character. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:16, 19 September 2009 (EDT)
::Right-- the alternate would be to have BM Tankorr in Rhinox's article, but not Universe Tankor... who is Rhinox.
::(This gets a tad complicated in multiverse-spanning adventures when characters meet themselves... but we've mostly avoided those problems thus far.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:31, 19 September 2009 (EDT)

==Extra pic==
Not sure if keep or go. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 11:17, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

[[File:Infernobwpostcard.jpg|thumb|left]]

Talk:Inferno (BW)

2017-04-27T13:59:53Z

Kyogreswimming: /* Vehicon bio */

Should we bother with foreign names if they're the same as the English and spelled the same way? I'd drop the French name (keeping the Spanish), but I can be convinced otherwise, if there's some technicality I'm overlooking. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

: That's what I've been doing. I mean, we don't list "Japanese name:" for all the characters who didn't get a name-change in Japan. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

== TM Scavenger ==

What are we going to do with regards to Transmetal Scavenger? All signs point to Scavenger actually being Inferno: the Beast Wars Metals toy is called "Inferno" and Scavenger's specs certinly act like Scavenger is a pre-existing character. Also, aside from the Ultra Transmetals, all of the Transmetal characters (including McDonalds) had pre-transmetal toys, and were featured in the show.

I've heard the reason Hasbro/Kenner changed the name to Scavenger was because of the Inferno colonies warming store shelves. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

:That's a footnote for his Toys section (a secton frequently unused, as people just stick a TFU.info link in the External links.)
:I think the theory just as you put forth (inferno warming shelves) ie pretty well documented by this point, and no one seems to disagree that's probably the reason. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

: Scavenger's a separate dude. IDW BW comic. The whole "originally designed to be" thing can and should be noted, and the "Metals Inferno" toy should definitely be part of this entry... but the US version ain't Inferno. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

::The IDW BW comic sucked so bad. -[[User:LV|LV]] 20:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Yes. Yes, it did. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

::::But Claw Jaw was awesome in it! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I recall when I bought TM Scavenger it rang up Inferno on the receipt.

==Personality==
I always figured that Inferno's beast mode overrode his personality because hotswapped Inferno's personality chip in mid-programming. [[User:216.151.95.158|216.151.95.158]] 16:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)(Jameel)

== Unreleased Toy? ==

Some time ago, I recall seeing photos of Botcon 2006 Waspinator being shown with a red redeco of RID Towline, intended to represent Inferno's pre-beast wars form. Yet now, I can find no evidence of such photos. Does anyone else recall seeing such photos?
[[User:Megatronacepticon|Megatronacepticon]] 05:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
: You might be thinking of [[Inferno (BW)#Universe toy bios|this]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:: Cheers, but that wasn't it. [[User:Megatronacepticon|Megatronacepticon]] 08:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

The bit about the general life a drone ant is interesting, but irrelevant to Inferno. Inferno's beast form is not a drone; it's a worker. Nevermind the anatomical differences (drones typically have wings), but Inferno's personality doesn't match that of a drone either. Inferno identifies himself as a "soldier and defender of the colony," which matches the duties of a female worker ant, which are sterile, and thus cannot mate.--[[User:General Cicadacon|General Cicadacon]] 13:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

==Vehicon bio==
I question the canon-icity of this item. Was the bio officially approved by Hasbro? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:Eh. I assumed that since it was a product of BotCon, it was official. I think the fact that those "official customs" exist should still be noted ''somewhere'' (if only for the fact that they're totally obscure) if we decide to delete this page.

:Maybe they're in the same limbo as [[Nightracer (G2)|Nightracer]]? [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

:If the bio was never approved, that should be noted. Otherwise, the page is okay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Let's all agree that Inferno has identity issues, alright?

== Trivia error ==

"Like Waspinator, Inferno's beast mode is female, as the only male ants are the kings, which Inferno, due to his lack of wings, clearly is not. So, like Waspinator (and to some extent Tigatron), he has the distinction of being a guy in a girl's body. " This is utterly fabricated, male ants do not have wings, male ants never even leave the hive. They only mate with queens. There's no such thing as "kings" with fire ants either. Inferno is indeed "female", but in behavior, it has nothing to do with the lack of wings.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 11:15, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
:They have wings, just like queens, they leave the hive, fly off together with the young queens find each other, mate, land, loose their wings and start a new hive, and die, being a male ant and Wasp sucks. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:18, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
::This is the first I've ever heard that ants have "kings." They have drones! Google search for "Ant king" turns up nothing but cartoon titles. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:22, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Excactly, what was the person who added that trivia smoking?--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 16:41, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I think certain species of termites have kings, however... Termites aren't ants [[User:Mecheon|Mecheon]] 21:45, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

==Split?==

I didn't add the tag, but I see Eire put it up about a month and half ago. And so far, there's been no discussion. Since both non-Predacon Infernoes are from alternate dimensions, it seems like we should split them off the same way we have [[Galvatron II]]. I'd say they're the exact same case: A character that starts off identical to the standard character but then their timeline changes and thus changes them. Unless of course, Galvatron II was split off for length and not content, in which case my argument holds no water. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 00:29, 19 September 2009 (EDT)
:It was decided a while before the crash that alternate ''Universe'' dudes were to be merged into their respective articles. Galvatron II only gets his own page because he got a toy that made him an unique iteration of the character. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:16, 19 September 2009 (EDT)
::Right-- the alternate would be to have BM Tankorr in Rhinox's article, but not Universe Tankor... who is Rhinox.
::(This gets a tad complicated in multiverse-spanning adventures when characters meet themselves... but we've mostly avoided those problems thus far.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:31, 19 September 2009 (EDT)

==Extra pic==
Not sure if keep or go. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 11:17, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

[[File:Infernobwpostcard.jpg|thumb|left]]

Talk:Inferno (BW)

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Kyogreswimming: /* Vehicon bio */

Should we bother with foreign names if they're the same as the English and spelled the same way? I'd drop the French name (keeping the Spanish), but I can be convinced otherwise, if there's some technicality I'm overlooking. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

: That's what I've been doing. I mean, we don't list "Japanese name:" for all the characters who didn't get a name-change in Japan. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

== TM Scavenger ==

What are we going to do with regards to Transmetal Scavenger? All signs point to Scavenger actually being Inferno: the Beast Wars Metals toy is called "Inferno" and Scavenger's specs certinly act like Scavenger is a pre-existing character. Also, aside from the Ultra Transmetals, all of the Transmetal characters (including McDonalds) had pre-transmetal toys, and were featured in the show.

I've heard the reason Hasbro/Kenner changed the name to Scavenger was because of the Inferno colonies warming store shelves. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

:That's a footnote for his Toys section (a secton frequently unused, as people just stick a TFU.info link in the External links.)
:I think the theory just as you put forth (inferno warming shelves) ie pretty well documented by this point, and no one seems to disagree that's probably the reason. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

: Scavenger's a separate dude. IDW BW comic. The whole "originally designed to be" thing can and should be noted, and the "Metals Inferno" toy should definitely be part of this entry... but the US version ain't Inferno. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:28, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

::The IDW BW comic sucked so bad. -[[User:LV|LV]] 20:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

:::Yes. Yes, it did. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

::::But Claw Jaw was awesome in it! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I recall when I bought TM Scavenger it rang up Inferno on the receipt.

==Personality==
I always figured that Inferno's beast mode overrode his personality because hotswapped Inferno's personality chip in mid-programming. [[User:216.151.95.158|216.151.95.158]] 16:08, 2 November 2007 (UTC)(Jameel)

== Unreleased Toy? ==

Some time ago, I recall seeing photos of Botcon 2006 Waspinator being shown with a red redeco of RID Towline, intended to represent Inferno's pre-beast wars form. Yet now, I can find no evidence of such photos. Does anyone else recall seeing such photos?
[[User:Megatronacepticon|Megatronacepticon]] 05:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
: You might be thinking of [[Inferno (BW)#Universe toy bios|this]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:: Cheers, but that wasn't it. [[User:Megatronacepticon|Megatronacepticon]] 08:01, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

== Trivia ==

The bit about the general life a drone ant is interesting, but irrelevant to Inferno. Inferno's beast form is not a drone; it's a worker. Nevermind the anatomical differences (drones typically have wings), but Inferno's personality doesn't match that of a drone either. Inferno identifies himself as a "soldier and defender of the colony," which matches the duties of a female worker ant, which are sterile, and thus cannot mate.--[[User:General Cicadacon|General Cicadacon]] 13:15, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

==Vehicon bio==
I question the canon-icity of this item. Was the bio officially approved by Hasbro? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
:Eh. I assumed that since it was a product of BotCon, it was official. I think the fact that those "official customs" exist should still be noted ''somewhere'' (if only for the fact that they're totally obscure) if we decide to delete this page.

:Maybe they're in the same limbo as [[Nightracer (G2)|Nightracer]]? [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

:If the bio was never approved, that should be noted. Otherwise, the page is okay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Let's all agree that Inferno has identity issues, alright? --[[User:Kyogreswimming|Kyogreswimming] 10:41, 27 April

== Trivia error ==

"Like Waspinator, Inferno's beast mode is female, as the only male ants are the kings, which Inferno, due to his lack of wings, clearly is not. So, like Waspinator (and to some extent Tigatron), he has the distinction of being a guy in a girl's body. " This is utterly fabricated, male ants do not have wings, male ants never even leave the hive. They only mate with queens. There's no such thing as "kings" with fire ants either. Inferno is indeed "female", but in behavior, it has nothing to do with the lack of wings.--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 11:15, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
:They have wings, just like queens, they leave the hive, fly off together with the young queens find each other, mate, land, loose their wings and start a new hive, and die, being a male ant and Wasp sucks. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:18, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
::This is the first I've ever heard that ants have "kings." They have drones! Google search for "Ant king" turns up nothing but cartoon titles. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:22, 18 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Excactly, what was the person who added that trivia smoking?--[[Special:Contributions/86.87.28.191|86.87.28.191]] 16:41, 21 June 2009 (EDT)
::::I think certain species of termites have kings, however... Termites aren't ants [[User:Mecheon|Mecheon]] 21:45, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

==Split?==

I didn't add the tag, but I see Eire put it up about a month and half ago. And so far, there's been no discussion. Since both non-Predacon Infernoes are from alternate dimensions, it seems like we should split them off the same way we have [[Galvatron II]]. I'd say they're the exact same case: A character that starts off identical to the standard character but then their timeline changes and thus changes them. Unless of course, Galvatron II was split off for length and not content, in which case my argument holds no water. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 00:29, 19 September 2009 (EDT)
:It was decided a while before the crash that alternate ''Universe'' dudes were to be merged into their respective articles. Galvatron II only gets his own page because he got a toy that made him an unique iteration of the character. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:16, 19 September 2009 (EDT)
::Right-- the alternate would be to have BM Tankorr in Rhinox's article, but not Universe Tankor... who is Rhinox.
::(This gets a tad complicated in multiverse-spanning adventures when characters meet themselves... but we've mostly avoided those problems thus far.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:31, 19 September 2009 (EDT)

==Extra pic==
Not sure if keep or go. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 11:17, 8 July 2013 (EDT)

[[File:Infernobwpostcard.jpg|thumb|left]]