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<div>[[Image:TFU03-toy_Roulette.jpg|thumb|right|250px|From Roulette...]]<br />
[[Image:TFU03-toy_ShadowStriker.jpg|thumb|right|250px|...to a completely different character!]]<br />
[[Image:ROTFLegendsBumblebeeRepaints.jpg|thumb|right|250px|What do you say? A Cliffjumper redeco? BLASPHEMY!]]<br />
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The term '''repaint''' is often used as a synonym for a [[redeco]] by fans, but that usage is technically incorrect. A repaint is a [[toy]] where ''only'' the [[paint operation]]s have been changed while still using the same base plastic colors from a previous incarnation of the sculpt.<br />
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Repaints are in fact a rarity among ''Transformers'' toys since almost all instances of extensive color changes involve a change in the base plastic colors, but they do actually exist. Interestingly enough, the most noteworthy examples of repaints in the Transformers toy line are all store or event [[exclusive]]s. The [[live-action film series]] increased the number of genuine repaints considerably, because Hasbro wanted to keep redecos as the same [[character]]s, and keep deco changes to a minimum to keep the characters easily recognizable for kids. <br />
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*[[Roulette (Universe)|Roulette]] and [[Shadow Striker (Universe)|Shadow Striker]] from the [[OTFCC 2003]] set were repaints of ''each other''.<br />
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*The [[e-HOBBY]] exclusive [[Clamp Down]] was a repaint of ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], with the addition of different [[sticker]]s.<br />
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*The [[Walmart]]-exclusive ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' versions of [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]] and [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]] were repaints of previous ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' releases of these sculpts, Prowl of the original RID release and Side Burn of the "Super"/"New Style" redeco.<br />
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*The Walmart exclusive ''Universe'' [[Spy Changer]] [[Prowl (Spychanger)|Prowl]], himself a redeco of ''Robots in Disguise'' Spy Changer [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl 2]], had his car shell (originally based on ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert's]] deco) repainted into ''Generation 1'' [[Prowl (G1)/toys|Prowl]] for a [[KB Toys]] exclusive [[wave]] of ''Generation 1''-themed Spy Changers in packaging simply branded "Transformers" with no additional title. A year later, those six Spy Changers, including Prowl, were re-released in [[rebranding|rebranded]] ''Universe'' packaging.<br />
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* The original [[Movie (toyline)|''Movie'' toyline]] had [[Target]] exclusive "[[AllSpark#Live-action movie universe|AllSpark]] enhanced" versions of Deluxe Class [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Bumblebee]], [[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]], [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]] and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] which simply add extra "[[AllSpark Power]]" paint operations to the existing decos (although the [[Frenzy (Movie)|Decepticon Frenzy]] figure included with Barricade was a redeco with different plastic colors).<br />
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* The Legends Class toy of ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] and [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] were originally released as part of the [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|2008 ''Universe'' toyline]], but minor repaints were later released as part of the [[Transformers Animated (toyline)|''Animated'' toyline]], included with the Target exclusive [[Lockdown (Animated)|Stealth Lockdown]] and [[Ratchet (Animated)|Rescue Ratchet]], respectively. The other figures included in those packs, [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] also used somewhat different plastic colors along with deco variations, making them redecos.<br />
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* ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' Legends Class Bumblebee saw several repaints that were limited to minor changes to his deco while keeping the basic plastic colors the same, namely Recon Bumblebee, the version available as part of the Target exclusive two-pack with [[Shadow Striker (ROTF)|Shadow Striker]], as well as [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'']] Cyberfire Bumblebee.<br />
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* ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Cyberverse]] Legion Class [[Leadfoot (DOTM)#Cyberverse|Leadfoot]] was slightly repainted for a [[Target]] [[exclusive]] two-pack with a redeco of Cyberverse Commander Class [[Ironhide (Movie)/toys#Cyberverse|Ironhide]].<br />
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* ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] are both completely made from black plastic, then painted their appropriate colors. <br />
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==See also==<br />
*[[Black repaint]]<br />
*[[Redeco]]<br />
*[[Retool]]<br />
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[[Category:Toys]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:FIRRIB&diff=823864Talk:FIRRIB2013-08-29T13:28:46Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
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<div>So, what's the official position, right now?--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 18:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
: There is none. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:59, 17 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
:: Clever of them. But were Frenzy and Rumble featured in Dreamwave or IDW? And if yes, in wich colors? --[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 19:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
::: Dreamwave was inconsistent. IIRC, they were cartoon colors in the stories and toy/comic colors in the MTMTE profile books. They have not appeared yet in IDW. (Alternators Rumble is red, however.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::: Actually, I believe that the few times that they appeared in Dreamwave's comics, they were always together and so it was impossible to tell which was which. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 23:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
::::: If we assume that the use of piledrivers indicates that it was Rumble, then the little fella was blue in the first DW G1 miniseries, but after that, Dark T's right, they were always together and were never singled out, so it's impossible to tell who's who based on colour. Then, they were done in toy colours for MTMTE. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 00:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
:::::: The "Who's who" in the back of the War and Peace TPB identifies them as their toy colors. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC)<br />
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This article should be moved to FIBRIR, with RIBFIR as a redirect. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:47, 1 June 2007 (UTC)<br />
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== Change To Chart ==<br />
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A whole new approach to the chart might better convey the information. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Tufte Tufte] says that if you're trying convey info about color, and you can print in color, you'd be a fool not to use it. Maybe like so?<br />
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<table><br />
<tr><th></th><th>Frenzy</th><th>Rumble</th></tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>US cartoon</th><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">Red</td><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">Blue</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>Japanese cartoon</th><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">Blue</td><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">Red</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>US toys</th><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">Blue</td><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">Red</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>Japanese toys</th><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">Blue</td><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">Red</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>Marvel Comics</th><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">Blue</td><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">Red</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>Dreamwave comics</th><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">Blue</td><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">Red</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>Devil's Due comics</th><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">Red</td><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">Blue</td><br />
</tr><br />
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</table><br />
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(We keep the words "red" and "blue" for people who are blind or just color blind, for those not using color monitors, or using text browsers, etc.) [[User:JW|JW]] 15:22, 20 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:Yes, this chart is much nicer and clearer than the one in the article now. I vote for switching it in immediately.<br />
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If we want to keep the FIBRIR, we could do something like this:<br />
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<table><br />
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<tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>G1 toys</th><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">FIB</td><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">RIR</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>Marvel Comics</th><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">FIB</td><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">RIR</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<th>US cartoon</th><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">FIR</td><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">RIB</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>Japanese cartoon</th><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">FIB</td><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">RIR</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>Dreamwave comics</th><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">FIB</td><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">RIR</td><br />
</tr><br />
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<tr><br />
<th>Devil's Due comics</th><br />
<td style="color:Black;background-color:Red;">FIR</td><br />
<td style="color:White;background-color:Blue;">RIB</td><br />
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</table><br />
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I also removed the Japanese Toy row since the toys were the same in all markets and put the rows in order of release.--[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 17:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
:I'm not entirely certain we ''do'' want to keep FIB and RIR in the chart. I personally think "providing information" is a slightly higher priority than "being a supportive environment for Transformers fans." Actually using the words "Frenzy" and "Blue" provides the information most clearly. Using "FIB" and "RIR" where not necessary is being fannish for its own sake. (Note that I ''do'' think there is a place in this Wiki for fannishness for its own sake, most certainly, but I don't think it should be priority #1.) [[User:JW|JW]] 18:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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I think JW's table is the best option. Use wikitable markup instead of HTML, though. Simpler to look at/edit. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:46, 21 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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:Using Fib or RiR or whatever is MUCH WORSE. The point is clarity. Using JWs original words Red and Blue is much clearer and and simpler and hence much better.<br />
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::Since I'm seeing a lot of approval, and I figured out how to do a colored table in Wiki markup, I'll implement it now. (With FortMax's suggested modification of consolidating the "toys" entries, and doing 'em in release order.) [[User:JW|JW]] 02:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)<br />
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Good thing there was a warning, or I would have changed it to:<br />
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{| border=0 cellspacing=2 cellpadding=2<br />
|<br />
| '''Frenzy'''<br />
| '''Rumble'''<br />
|-<br />
| '''Toys'''<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
|- <br />
| '''Marvel comics'''<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
|-<br />
| '''US cartoon'''<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Purple;" | Purple<br />
|-<br />
| '''Japanese cartoon'''<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
|-<br />
| '''Dreamwave comics'''<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
|-<br />
| '''Devil's Due comics'''<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
|} -[[User:The Ultimate One|The Ultimate One]]<br />
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Not quite. See the new topic I made. [[User:RIBFIR Forever|The RIBFIR Dude]] 20:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==New Chart Includes 1986 Movie==<br />
I know most of you are against the purple, but I think we should make the chart look like this because it includes the 1986 movie where Rumble actually ''was'' blue:<br />
{| border=0 cellspacing=2 cellpadding=2<br />
|<br />
| '''Frenzy'''<br />
| '''Rumble'''<br />
|-<br />
| '''Toys'''<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
|- <br />
| '''Marvel comics'''<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
|-<br />
| '''US cartoon'''<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Purple;" | Purple<br />
|-<br />
| '''Japanese cartoon'''<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
|-<br />
| '''1986 Cartoon Movie'''<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
|-<br />
| '''Dreamwave comics'''<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
|-<br />
| '''Devil's Due comics'''<br />
| style="color:Black;background-color:Red;" | Red<br />
| style="color:White;background-color:Blue;" | Blue<br />
|} -[[User:RIBFIR Forever|The RIBFIR Dude]] 20:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:Personally, I prefer it the way it is. Not least because there's a scene in the movie where they're ''both'' red, and why invite ''more'' confusion? [[User:JW|JW]] 21:15, 6 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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Yeah, but that was just an animation glitch that was only for about two seconds. [[User:RIBFIR Forever|The RIBFIR Dude]] 21:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:And if you watch, you can ''clearly'' see that Rumble is definetly blue and '''not''' purple in the movie. [[User:RIBFIR Forever|The RIBFIR Dude]] 16:28, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Are they actually ''named'' in the movie? In the brief scene where they're two different colors? [[User:JW|JW]] 16:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I'm not sure, but you could check the script and see who said what. ([[Rumble (G1)|The blue one]] said "uncrazimatic") [[User:RIBFIR Forever|The RIBFIR Dude]] 16:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::In the movie, Rumble is exactly the same colors he always is in the cartoon. Maybe you're overestimating how purple cartoon Rumble is. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:37, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:I don't know about that. I'd double check, but my G1 DVDs were on loan from a buddy of mine and I already gave them back. [[User:RIBFIR Forever|The RIBFIR Dude]] 16:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::If you can provide screenshots from the TV cartoon and the movie, showing a substantial difference in coloration, and the appropriate excerpt from the script, I'll reconsider my position on making changes to the table. Otherwise, best to leave things as they are. [[User:JW|JW]] 17:06, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::I don't think I'll end up ever doing that. So we may as well leave it as it is. But keep this on the talk page just in case. [[User:RIBFIR Forever|The RIBFIR Dude]] 17:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::I went ahead and did it, and I don't see any difference between the two. [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
[[image:G1-TVandMovieComparison-Rumble.jpg]]<br />
::::Guy's banned, anyway. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::I think he was remembering the one scene where Rumble says "First we crack the shell, then we crack the nuts inside!" where he ''is'' blue instead of his usual purple. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I&#39;m a GUY)]] 16:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==G2==<br />
I'm pretty sure the unreleased G2 Go-Bot "Rumble" was primarily WHITE. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 13:44, 14 February 2008 (EST)<br />
:He seems equal parts white and red. With teal and black showing up in robot mode. [http://www.allspark.com/gallery/g2gobots/RumbleCar] [http://www.allspark.com/gallery/g2gobots/RumbleBot] --[[User:74.57.3.251|74.57.3.251]] 19:04, 14 February 2008 (UTC) (Detour at work)<br />
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==FIRRIB==<br />
How'd this page end up at FIBRIR, anyway? A search through ATT's archives shows that "FIRRIB" is the most common use (664 occurrences) (and personally, it's the version that springs immediately to mind for me.) FIBRIR is in second place with 346 occurrences. RIRFIB=188; RIBFIR=74. And all that notwithstanding, the original "movement" appears to have been started as FIRRIB (for the obvious purpose of debunking those silly, obviously-totally-wrong toy catalogs, natch.) See [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/7f7aa2ec041325c4/d066fdb5fb0bdaf9?lnk=gst&q=FIRRIB#d066fdb5fb0bdaf9 here].<br />
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So, short version: this page should really be moved. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:FIBRIR FOREVER!<br />
:Or, in a more sensible mode, I wouldn't have a problem with that. [[User:JW|JW]] 15:06, 14 February 2008 (EST)<br />
::I think it should stay as is, solely because there are more instances of FIBRIR. And RIR even when FIP or FITAA. --[[User:74.57.3.251|74.57.3.251]] 21:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC) (Detour)<br />
:::But it's a ''fandom term'', regardless of whether it's accurate or not. The actual original version should be the article's name and central usage. (And anyways, "FIRRIB" flows off the tongue a bit more smoothly than "FIBRIR". : ] -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Yeah, I'd rather see it at FIRRIB, myself. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::In the spirit of the article, I'm going to have to say FIBRIR to that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:FIRRIB may have been coined first, but I would imagine FIBRIR came right on its heels. Considering that FIBRIR is... pretty obviously the more solid position to take (outside of a single albeit prominent continuity) I think it's better for the article to stay where it is. The article covers both the fandom's silly argument ''as well as'' the complete story. And as McFeely's edits put quite nicely, FIRRIB is a mistaken aberration. We shouldn't name the article after it. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 19:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::You're going on the position that there's a "right" and a "wrong" to the whole debate in the first place, which is pretty antithetical to the wiki's general approach to things. They're both right. One's right in the cartoon and a couple of other places, and the other's right elsewhere. <br />
::If not for the FIRRIB position, the entire debate wouldn't exist. Also, the first FIBRIR shows up about 6 months after FIRRIB, in Nov. '94. I don't support naming the article after the secondary, reactionary counter-argument, rather than the position that started and popularized the whole thing, regardless of how "right" or "wrong" one or the other may be. It's like replacing [[Trukk not munky]] with <nowiki>[[PRIME=TRUCK AND PRIMAL=GORILLA]]</nowiki>. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== So what about this? ==<br />
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[[Image:RumbleisRed.jpg|thumb|left|300px]] --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:No, that clearly says "RuNble" is red, so we're obviously dealing with a third cassette here who, uh...WHAT'S THAT BEHIND YOU!?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 20:52, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Maybe "Runble" is [[Enemy (G1)|Enemy]]'s real name. He should team up with [[Plight of the Bumblebee!|Lazerbeak]]. [[User:JW|JW]] 20:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:Teletraan's quoting the production bible. The other Decepticon screens take other quotes out of the bible, too. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::I think this pic should be included in the article, as evidence of how schizophrenic the cartoon production process was, if nothing else. I would crop it to remove the watermarks, first. Did Rumble appear elsewhere in the same episode? [[User:JW|JW]] 16:08, 14 February 2008 (EST)<br />
:::I'm pretty sure Rumble did appear in the episode given that this is where Megatron used everyone's powers. Anyway, I was going to take a screencap of this from my DVDs when I get back to my apartment. The current image is one I yanked off my photobucket account. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::After Megatron punches the ground to cause an earthquake, we see Rumble turn to the other 'Cons and point to himself. At least he didn't give the AREN'T YOU PROUD speeches like Starscream.... --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 21:36, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==IDW==<br />
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Rumble and Frenzy do show up in ''[[The Transformers: Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin]]''. I don't have access to a scanner right now, but I have the comic in front of me. Neither of the two are named, but on page 16 of [[Megatron Origin issue 1|#1]], the little bugger who deploys his pile drivers, who I assume is Rumble, has red markings. So it looks like FIBRIR applies for IDW. If anyone could back this up with a pic, it would be appreciated.--[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 21:29, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
: Who uses piledrivers is not a good way to determine who is whom. In the cartoon, both use piledrivers. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:34, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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::That's why I pointed it out on the talk page. I don't have issues 2-4 with me right now (away from home at school -- issue 1 got mailed to me by a friend), but I don't think they said which one was which anywhere in Origin. Still, I considered this little bit of trivia at least worth discussing. --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 21:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Devil's Due==<br />
Where in the DD Joe crossovers does it indicate which is which? I've pored over the first one, and though both show up, neither seem to be named, unless I missed it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:When Bumblebee punches the blue guy in #3, he says "I don't THINK so, RUMBLE!". - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 23:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Aha. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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==Robot Heroes==<br />
Well, going by the photos released from the Toy Fair, there's gonna be a Robot Heroes Rumble... and he's Red. [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
:And the Diamond Select Toys busts have Rumble blue and Frenzy red. Also, it looks like the red Frenzy comes with Ravage and Blue Rumble comes with Laserbeak and Ratbat. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Movie Frenzy ==<br />
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His only coloring (besides silver, which doesn't really count as a color) is his BLUE EYES. Should that be mentioned here? [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I&#39;m a GUY)]] 15:59, 19 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:This article is only about the G1 characters (despite occasional jokes elsewhere in the wiki). [[User:JW|JW]] 16:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::Oh. But if Rumble is in TF2, and looks just like Frenzy except having red eyes...?[[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I&#39;m a GUY)]] 19:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::If that should happen, I certainly think it would bear mention here. [[User:JW|JW]] 19:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
::::Of course, we've no evidence of that yet.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 19:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
:::::We'll just have to wait and see. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|MR. Q (I&#39;m a GUY)]] 19:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== IDW Comics ==<br />
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Have they actually identified which is which yet in IDW? [[User:JW|JW]] 11:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)<br />
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:'''Warpspeed Hellscream says:''' As of AHM, Rumble is red and Frenzy is blue. Dammit. I believe in the FIBRIR side of this argument. FIBRIR 4ever! [[User:Warpspeed Hellscream|Screamer]] 05:34, 11 September 2009 (EDT)<br />
:And here's my footage of IDW's panel at SDCC 2008. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffvrLk_6Seo At 00:28], you can hear me ask Shane who is who, and the disappointment among the FIRRIB supporters. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 07:47, 11 September 2009 (EDT)<br />
::Er. Shouldn't the FIBRIR supporters be ''happy'' that Frenzy is blue and Rumble is red? ;) (Me, I prefer Rumble as blue, darnit...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:33, 11 September 2009 (EDT)<br />
Ah Crap. '''Warpspeed Hellscream'', aka me, you stupid skid plate. I'm actually FIRRIB. Sorry. Watched G1 cartoon at start of my fandom, so this why.<br />
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== Article namechange? ==<br />
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Just a tiny suggestion, but maybe this page should be renamed "frenzy/rumble controversy" or "RIBFIR and FIBRIR" to avoid the article looking biased? (like i said,just a tiny suggestion) [[User:Rhinox555|Decepticon Rhinox]] 18:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
:I think the less seriously we take this "controversy" the better.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:48, 13 June 2008 (UTC)<br />
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== Shattered Glass Continuity? ==<br />
I know it's a G1 derived continuity, but I don't think it's quite the same as IDW or Dreamwave, and it certainly adds nothing to the FIRRIB argument, because their colors are based on the Autobot mini-cassettes, with no reasoning behind which cassette got which new colors. So in short, I don't think it should be on the chart. Opinions? [[User:Rideonshootingstarxx|Rideonshootingstarxx]] 00:56, 8 July 2009 (EDT)<br />
: I don't really think it should be on the chart, either. Without looking, as I recall, there are a few on there that I think are examples of dogpiling, and not useful information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 8 July 2009 (EDT)<br />
Hmmmmm. I don't know what Kids Stuff is, and I could maybe live without the few Frenzy-less sections (Alternators, Robot Heroes, and that Kids Stuff. Ladybird too?) So maybe cut it down to the sections with BOTH Rumble and Frenzy and um... I don't care for G2 on there either. None of those help with the ARGUEMENT, they just document colors of Rumble and Frenzy. So...? -[[User:Rideonshootingstarxx|Rideonshootingstarxx]] 01:10, 8 July 2009 (EDT)<br />
: Oh, we should definitely keep the Robot Heroes and Alternators things. Those are important. They show that Rumble is red (and that Frenzy is blue is implied). But I agree on G2. G2 and Shattered Glass are irrelevant to the discussion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:56, 8 July 2009 (EDT)<br />
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== The Insecticomics and Lilformers thing ==<br />
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So, uh... are we going to need a consensus on this? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:42, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
:My vote in general? Only go with non-canon comics from people who've actually worked on Transformers. Saves arguments based solely on perception of quality. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:59, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
::Yeah, that's what I thought. Personally, I think Lilformers has a bit more credibility since Matt Moylan has actually worked on Transformers, and Insecticomics is (I believe) a fan comic. But let's wait for more responses before we go ahead. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:01, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
:::It's not just that, it's also that Moylan's comic is a single panel that gets to the point and comically "solves" the question. It's also actual art, and some nice one at that. The Insecticomics thing is 7 panels, five of which are just two characters arguing the matter... and then Inferno shows up and hangs them by their feet. Not exactly what I'd call funny, or even related to the FIRRIB debate beyond the five arguing panels. Plus... it's blurry photos of toys. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:41, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
::::Lilformers yes, Insecticomics no is my vote.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 20:00, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
:::::Detour perfectly summed up the reasons the Insecticomics strip should go away and Lilformers should stay. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:14, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
All right. Five votes and all of them are for Lilformers to stay and Insecticomics to leave. Have we reached a verdict? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 21:27, 11 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
:We have. Innocent! --[[User:Blot|Blot]] 00:15, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
::Release the Sharkticons! --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:23, 12 May 2010 (EDT)<br />
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== WFC ==<br />
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Frenzy and Rumble were featured in War for Cybertron, which has now been confirmed as being a new universe. How does it belong on the article now? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 21:54, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
: It already is in the article, is it not? At least, on the graph. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:55, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
::Yeah, it is, but I was just wondering since the rest of the article seems to be G1-based. And if we do end up including it, what about the other portrayals of the characters? Then again, since the whole debate is mostly rooted in G1, it probably should stay that way. Dragging it into other continuities might be overkill. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 21:57, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
:::I agree with this. They're not from a new continuity so not technically part of the debate (that is, unless TF:Prime stuff later on makes Frenzy blue again). --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:14, 3 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
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== This wiki's stance on the matter. ==<br />
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So would there be any point in mentioning why we've chosen to use the images we have for the character's articles' respective mainpics. [[User:Flydie|Flydie]] 19:24, 31 March 2013 (EDT)<br />
:Because the Marvel Comics image for Frenzy makes for a funny caption while the storybook image for Rumble features a very toy-accurate Rumble punching a hole in Tracks. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:36, 31 March 2013 (EDT)<br />
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== Question about the Japanese cartoon... ==<br />
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Okay, so in the original American TF cartoon Rumble is blue and Frenzy is red while in the Japanese cartoon, Rumble is red and Frenzy is blue. My question is, is the blue robot the same character called by different names in the two markets or does a different character perform the actions of the blue robot in each version? (And, of course, the complementary question applies to the red robot.) --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:57, 7 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
:The Japanese dub just swaps the names back (since that's infinitely easier to do than altering the animation). As a result, in Japan, Frenzy was around all the time doing earthquakes and stuff, whilst Rumble is the guy that hardly ever showed up. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 09:44, 7 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
::I get what was done, I am asking about the question of identity and cross-continuity equivalence. Is the blue guy "doing earthquakes and stuff" the same being under different names in the two continuities or not? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:55, 7 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
:::I think it is probably most likely that Rumble's name is "Frenzy" in Japan, and vice-versa - if they ever got bios in Japan (I have no idea) that would probably help us know. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:26, 7 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
:Rose by any other name and all that, if I understand your question correctly then I think the "blue robot" should be treated as a character on his page, who just happens to trade names with the "red robot" in several media. {{unsigned|KrytenKoro}}<br />
::::I doubt Frumble would have had their bios swapped (is that what you're supposing, essentially?) in Japan just to account for the cartoon mucking up. Far more likely that they just swapped the names back for the cartoon and the Japanese just had to deal with the fact that the sonic attack guy was doing earthquakes, in the same way that the rest of the world just had to deal with the fact that the red guy was blue. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:18, 7 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
:::::So like how the sonic attack guy was doing earthquakes in the US as well? As far as I can recall, red-Frenzy NEVER did any kind of sonic attack thing... just did the same pile-driving earthquake stuff purple-Rumble did. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:49, 7 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
:::::And I just checked Rumble & Frenzy's Japanese techs...<br />
:::::* Original line, Frenzy's does mention the inner drum that messes up enemy circuits. But... Rumble's makes NO mention of the earthquakes WHATSOEVER. Just a machinegun and missile.<br />
:::::* ''TF 2010'' release, I ''only'' see Frenzy on the list, looks like Rumble didn't make it to year 2. The tech retains the inner drum... but adds "Hammer Arm" as a listed weapon.<br />
:::::So yeah. I think that settles that. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:55, 7 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
::::::Huh, so they ''did'' kind of turn Frenzy into earthquake guy. Also, I'd totally forgotten that the show's red guy had piledrivers too. G1 cartoon, you so crazy. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 16:05, 7 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
:::::::I get what Khajidha is saying. Essentially he is pointing out that the chart doesn't give the whole picture.<br />
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!"Frenzy"<br />
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|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red (rarely seen dude)<br />
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue (major character)<br />
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![[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)|Japanese cartoon]]<br />
|style="color:#fff;background:#00f;"|Blue (major character)<br />
|style="color:#000;background:#f00;"|Red (rarely seen dude)<br />
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:::::::The chart flip-flops the characters around at that point. It isn't entirely comparing apples to apples. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:15, 7 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
:So... what does this mean for their character pages? Do they need fixing? Should Rumble's Japanese name be listed as "Frenzy" and Frenzy's Japanese name be listed as "Rumble"? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:57, 4 July 2013 (EDT)<br />
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== Should US Masterpiece get a separate entry on the chart? ==<br />
I feel like it's notable that Hasbro went with the FIBRIR colors since of late, they've been doing their own thing. Even though it's still the Masterpiece line, the way Hasbro handles it, it's effectively a separate entity from the Japanese MP line. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:28, 29 August 2013 (EDT)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Laserbeak_(G1)&diff=823863Laserbeak (G1)2013-08-29T13:21:47Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Masterpiece */</p>
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:''Laserbeak is a [[Decepticon]] [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Mini-Cassette]] and a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br />
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[[Image:Laserbeak-calendar.jpg|right|325px|thumb|Recognizable as the one who does not cannon-blast Omega Supreme.]]<br />
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'''Laserbeak''' is not usually found on the front lines of battle. His chosen role is that of the spy, lurking in unseen corners and inconspicuous perches, snatching up any useful information he can to relay to his [[Soundwave (G1)|superiors]]. He has also been known to serve as an interrogator, using his lasers to carve up helpless prisoners to extract anything and everything they know. On occasion he's even played the role of assassin, striking quickly at unsuspecting (and particularly vulnerable) targets, and vanishing in a flash in the chaos following the attack.<br />
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He much prefers this "hide and sneak" tactic, as to his core, Laserbeak is a coward. Should his weapon's energy reserves start running dry, he starts running for the hills. A sufficiently big threat will also send him screaming off for the horizon at top speed. His self-preservation habit even dictates his attitude towards Decepticon leadership power-shifts: he basically allies himself with whoever's in charge at the moment, a loyalty that can vanish almost instantly once the reins of power change.<br />
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{{bigquote|Lens-headed sneak!|[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]|[[The Transformers (PS2)|''The Transformers'']]}}<br />
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==Fiction==<br />
===Marvel Comics continuity===<br />
====Generation 1====<br />
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[[Image:Introdump decepticons marvelus01.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Laserbeak ''can'' talk, but he just prefers to avoid moments like these.]]<br />
Four million years ago, [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] and a group of Decepticons (which included Laserbeak) attempted to hijack the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], only to fail and fall into deactivation sleep for four million years. In [[1984]], the detonation of the volcano, [[Mount St. Hilary]], reactivated the [[Autobot]]s and Decepticons, unleashing their war on [[Earth]]. Laserbeak was sent to spy on the Autobots, and located a group of them during an outing to a drive-in movie theater. With this information, the Decepticons attacked. {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}} Soon after, Laserbeak participated in a raid on [[Harrison Nuclear Power Plant]] and helped use their bounty to build a [[Fortress Sinister|new headquarters atop a cliffside]]. After construction's completion, Megatron learned of the location of a human who could help the Decepticons convert Earth fuel to a form they could consume, and their leader sent Laserbeak and the others to [[S. Witwicky Auto Repairs & Tow Service]] to retrieve him. However, the Autobots were waiting for them and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] easily repelled Laserbeak's attacks. {{storylink|Power Play!}} Laserbeak returned with the Decepticons to their headquarters with their target, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}} <br />
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[[Image:RaidersoftheLastArk-Laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Pride comes before a fowl.]]<br />
It was discovered that after the Autobots crash-landed on Earth, a rescue ship was sent after them which was buried somewhere in [[United Kingdom|England]]. Laserbeak was among the Decepticons who flocked to the ship in an effort to seize it, but he was fired upon by an [[Ark shuttlecraft]] cannon and ultimately fled with his peers. {{storylink|Man of Iron (issue)|Man of Iron}}<br />
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''After [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] betrayed [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], Laserbeak was among the Decepticons who Megatron assembled to take the traitor down.'' {{storylink|The Enemy Within!}} ''Later, Megatron staged a full-scale assault on the crashlanded Ark. After boasting loudly, Laserbeak was the first casualty, having been blown to bits by Optimus Prime.'' {{storylink|Raiders of the Last Ark}}<br />
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The Decepticons' captive, Sparkplug Witwicky, succeeded in converting Earth fuel into a digestible form for the Decepticons, and with Megatron's forces fully charged, they attacked the Ark ''once again''. Laserbeak and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] were the first to burst through the Ark's hull, but Laserbeak's glory was shortlived. [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] duped him with a visual trick, and the condor fled in fear. Laserbeak was not seen for the duration of the battle. {{storylink|The Last Stand}} Despite Sparkplug Witwicky's assistance, he'd secretly poisoned the Decepticons' converted fuel, resulting in a coup by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] who nursed the fallen Decepticons back to health and subjugated Megatron. Either Laserbeak or Buzzsaw was present during this time.{{storylink|The Worse of Two Evils!}}<br />
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[[Image:Laserbeakwarriorschool.jpg|left|thumb|Laserbeak is Soundwave's bitch.]]<br />
During Shockwave's rule, the new Decepticon leader sent [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (with Laserbeak stowed) to infiltrate [[Blackrock Aerospace Assembly Plant Number One]], where they were carried inside in cassette deck mode by plant workers [[Ferdy and Gabe]]. Once inside, the two quickly besieged the plant's controls and enslaved its workers. {{storylink|Warrior School!}} Laserbeak served many functions during the Decepticons' occupation of this plant, such as squawking, heating up the workers' pizzas, and delivering recorded messages to the [[human]] military poised outside. {{storylink|Brainstorm!}} Laserbeak later accompanied Soundwave and a few of the other cassette-tape Decepticons to aid their impostor Optimus Prime's ambush of the Autobots, though all of them were easily defeated once the real Optimus Prime was restored. {{storylink|Prime Time!}}<br />
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''[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], who was chasing an escaped Ravage, was surrounded by Decepticons in the wilderness. Laserbeak brought the Autobots a memento of their captured friend... an arm! The condor teased the shocked Autobots, telling them that if they wanted the rest of their friend, they knew where to find him. Sensing that there was a trap set for the Autobots, Optimus Prime insisted on springing Bumblebee on his own. Optimus traveled to the Decepticons' hideout, punched Laserbeak in the jaw, and freed Bumblebee.'' {{storylink|Crisis of Command!}} ''During the [[Dinobot Hunt!|Dinobot Hunt]], Laserbeak was charged with watching the progress of the Autobots as they tried to subdue [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] and [[Slag (G1)|Slag]]. He was ordered to not engage his enemies, and after a skirmish he was buried under some rubble. Acting commander Soundwave eventually uncovered him.'' {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}<br />
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[[Image:Laserbeakdeterminescommand.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Autobots pass the Matrix, Decepticons pass the Laserbeak.]]<br />
Unlike the [[Seeker (body-type)|Decepticon Planes]], Soundwave, Laserbeak, and the other animal cassettes remained more loyal to Megatron than to Shockwave, and so when the former [[Decepticon leader]] was discovered in a coal mine, they arrived swiftly to refuel and reclaim him. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}} One of Megatron's first acts upon returning to the Decepticons was to send Laserbeak and Buzzsaw to retrieve Starscream, Thundercracker, and Skywarp. However, he got an irritating surprise when Shockwave decided to accompany the jets. {{Storylink|The Bridge to Nowhere!}} Soon, Megatron attacked the Ark while seemingly all of the Autobots were attacking the Decepticon base, and he took the Seekers and all of the cassette Decepticons (minus [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]) with him. Unfortunately, the Ark was now defended by the newly-built [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. All of the attacking Decepticons except for Laserbeak and Megatron were obliterated, and it was only thanks to the wounded Laserbeak that he and the Decepticon leader escaped with their lives. When they returned to the Decepticon base, Laserbeak perched not on Megatron's shoulder, but Shockwave's, silently acknowledging their true leader. Shockwave rebuked Megatron for his poor command, but Megatron surprised him with a rationalization for his actions. As Shockwave again submitted to Megatron's leadership, Laserbeak exchanged perching positions, signifying the transfer of command. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br />
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[[Image:ITNI film destroyed.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Laserbeak's job was a lot easier back before the Internet.]]<br />
''Journalist [[Joy Meadows]] was gathering evidence that the purported supervillain [[Donny Finkleberg|Robot-Master]] was in fact a fraud initiated by the United States government, but Laserbeak compiled all her evidence and destroyed it.'' {{storylink|In the National Interest}} ''When [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] traveled back in time and defeated Megatron it was once again Laserbeak who signified the transfer of Decepticon command in this manner. After Galvatron returned to the future Laserbeak promptly dug Megatron out from under the ruins of Galvatron's weapon and perched on the restored Decepticon commander.'' {{storylink|Target: 2006}} Laserbeak sat on Megatron's shoulder when the Decepticon leader ordered the [[Battlecharger]]s to deliver a message to Optimus Prime. The bird flew off when Megatron attacked Soundwave with a makeshift metal scepter for questioning his methods. {{storylink|Decepticon Graffiti!}}<br />
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Laserbeak was the one to alert Shockwave and Soundwave to the approach of a human military column on the Decepticons' [[Wyoming base]]. {{storylink|Gone but Not Forgotten!}} In response, the Decepticons transferred operations to their new [[Club Con|island headquarters]], and soon after, following the theft of [[Power Station Alpha]], Laserbeak turned out with the other Decepticons to welcome the forces of [[Cobra]] there. {{storylink|Ashes, Ashes...}} When [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] and the [[Autobot]]s assaulted the island to recover the power station, Laserbeak was among the Decepticons ordered into battle by Shockwave, though true to form, he seemed to chicken out, as he wasn't anywhere to be seen during the fight. {{storylink|...All Fall Down!}}<br />
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When [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] came to Earth, Laserbeak aided him in overseeing his [[Wash and Roll]] car wash empire. Both were chased away when their hypnotized human subjects were shaken free of their programming by [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]]. {{storylink|Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom}}<br />
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[[Image:Jetfireyourehit.jpg|right|thumb|250px|The bitch hierarchy: Soundwave > Laserbeak > Jetfire]]<br />
Years later, after Ratbat had assumed command in the absence of both Megatron and Shockwave, the Decepticons ambushed the Autobots on the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] while [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] were dueling for leadership. Laserbeak counted [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] among his victories, but he and the others were called back to their ship to retreat once Blaster and Grimlock disabled its guidance systems. {{storylink|Totaled!}}<br />
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Ratbat's troops soon met up with [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s troops, which resulted in a Decepticon civil war. Laserbeak and the others were called off the attack, however, when it was revealed that the civil war was instigated by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] to divert attention away from his grab for the [[Underbase]]. After a false start, an unprecedented Autobot/Decepticon alliance was formed to stop Starscream, and Laserbeak was assigned to a team headed by both [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] and Soundwave. Confronting the Underbase-enhanced Starscream in [[Buenos Aires]], Laserbeak met his doom. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br />
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In [[2009]], one possible future saw the Decepticons with control over all of [[North America]] and only a handful of Autobots and humans to oppose them. During a last-ditch Autobot/human raid on their [[New York City|New York]] stronghold, Laserbeak was instrumental in diverting [[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]], first disabling the Autobot and then ordering his comrades to blow him out of the sky. {{storylink|Rhythms of Darkness!}}<br />
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====''Classics''====<br />
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[[Image:CrossingOver4-LaserbeakRavage.jpg|left|thumb|250px]]<br />
When Megatron reactivated on Earth and began building a power base again, Soundwave naturally returned to his side, and Laserbeak naturally came with him. During a battle with the Autobots over a mysterious energy signature, Laserbeak and Ravage were dispatched by Soundwave to follow [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]] and [[Landquake (Timelines)|Landquake]] into the subterranean chamber from whence the signature was emanating. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 3}} The two cassettes launched an attack as soon as they caught up to their quarry, but a volley of return fire clipped Laserbeak and sent him crashing into the pool of [[Rarified Energon]] that was the very energy source that had drawn them there. Ravage escaped; Laserbeak's fate was unrevealed. {{storylink|Crossing Over: Part 4}}<br />
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====''Regeneration One''====<br />
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In [[2012]] Laserbeak had been brought back to some semblance of life as part of Megatron's lobotomised [[zombie]] army. Ambushing the [[Wrecker]]s, Laserbeak and Buzzsaw shot down [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 4}}<br />
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br />
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br />
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Ken Yamaguchi]] (Japanese)<br />
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[[Image:Cybertronlaserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|Lasers? Check. Beak? Check.]]<br />
Laserbeak was the first of the cassette Transformers. {{storylink|Secret Files of Teletraan II}} Prior to his arrival on Earth, Laserbeak had less of an avian shape, resembling instead a stylized jet with an ovoid silhouette and a hooked nosecone. He still transformed into a cassette, which is kind of strange when you consider his "carrier" transformed into a lamp-post and not necessarily any device that played cassettes. But anyway, this Laserbeak often carried out spy missions, able to sneak into places the larger [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] could not manage, including [[Great Dome|Iacon]], the Autobots' headquarters. There, Laserbeak learned of the Autobot mission to seek out new sources of energy away from Cybertron, which prompted a Decepticon interception mission in turn. This led to the whole lot of these spacefaring Transformers crashlanding on Earth and taking a four million-year dirtnap in the heart of a spastic volcano.<br />
[[Image:MTMTE1 laserbeak ejects.jpg|left|225px|thumb|"Please flip the bird...er, tape to Side B."]]<br />
In the year 1984, the Transformers were awakened by volcanic activity, and Laserbeak was reformatted with terrestrial aesthetics in both robot and altmode. His altmode was an audiocassette, while his robot mode was that of a vulture. His missions, though, were largely unchanged, and he continued to serve as a spy.<br />
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Laserbeak was the first Decepticon to tangle with Autobots on Earth when he was dispatched by Soundwave and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] to chase down two snooping Autobot spies, [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]. The Autobots tried to scurry away, splitting up so that Laserbeak couldn't follow both of them. He had the last laugh (or squawk) on them, as he launched one of his laser cannons to follow Cliffjumper remotely while he continued to hound Hound, at least until Cliffjumper gas-bombed the drone. Laserbeak fared better than his cannon, and managed to blast the Autobot snoop off the road. Continuing with his scouting missions, Laserbeak uncovered the oil refinery which served as the Decepticons' first major strike against Earth, and their first battle with the Autobots on our planet. [[Image:MTMTE1 laserbeak vs prime.jpg|right|thumb]] Floating above the main battle, Laserbeak saw a safe chance to be useful, and flew between Megatron and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prime]], pecking at Optimus's face long enough for Laserbeak's glorious leader to take to the skies. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}} When the Autobots attacked the [[Victory (G1)|Decepticons' new space cruiser]] before it could depart, Laserbeak was ejected for warfare (for a change) along with his fellow Cassettes. Being the coward that he is, though, Laserbeak managed to be conspicuously absent throughout the battle, besides a single strafing run from the safety of the air. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}<br><br />
[[Image:Megslaserbeak.jpg|left|thumb|225px|Laserbeak, symbol of Decepticon leadership.]]<br />
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Once the Decepticons dug their space cruiser out of the briny deep, they resumed their attacks on a nearby solar power station. While the others engaged the larger Autobots, Laserbeak kept to squawking around [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]'s head. Later, Laserbeak spied on the Autobots to ensure they took the bait for a trap Megatron had set for them. He tried to help in the cave trap later on, but [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] trapped him instead inside a tiny net. {{storylink|Transport to Oblivion}} After Megatron was accidentally sent to Cybertron following an early [[space bridge]] test, Laserbeak and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] were present to greet Megatron on his return. Laserbeak perched on Megatron's arm, signifying Megatron's resumption of command of the Earthbound Decepticons. Once the Decepticons set their sights on the [[antimatter]] formula, Laserbeak attempted to steal it from [[Chip Chase]] and Bumblebee, but to no avail. {{storylink|Roll for It}}<br />
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[[Image:DivideandConquer_LaserbeakonBrawns_shoulder.jpg|thumb|right|225px|All Brawn and no brains.]]<br />
After [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s strike team blasted Optimus Prime something fierce, Megatron assigned Laserbeak to infiltrate the Ark and ascertain the Autobot leader's true condition. For once, Laserbeak demonstrated his cowardice in Megatron's presence, but reluctantly went forth on his mission. Perhaps looking to prove himself after showing his yellow streak, Laserbeak took some extreme risks. First, he transformed into cassette mode and landed right on the powerhouse [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]]'s shoulder to enter the Autobot base. Then, at Megatron's prodding, he flew down in full sight of the entire Autobot team and fired laser beams straight into Prime's exposed chest cavity. This exacerbated the damage and made the Autobot mission to find a replacement [[cosmitron]] for Prime of great priority. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}<br />
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On another scouting mission in the [[Arctic]] Circle, Laserbeak alerted Megatron to Starscream's bumbling execution of some Autobot prisoners using a weird Morse Code signal. {{storylink|Fire in the Sky}} Later, he joined Soundwave and [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] in gathering information on the [[Great Falls]]. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}}<br />
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When the Decepticons were on a mission in [[South America]], they were temporarily interrupted by an attack from Brawn and [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]. Windcharger soon realized the duo were outclassed fighting so many Decepticons at once, and directed Brawn to pull back. Well, bless his cowardly tin-plated heart, Laserbeak waited until after Windcharger sounded the retreat to get involved, showing great "courage" as he shot the Autobots in the back as they were driving away. Still, never let it be said that Laserbeak doesn't have his uses. When Brawn later returned and stole Megatron's [[fusion cannon]], blasting the Decepticon leader with his own weapon, it was Laserbeak who flew in to retrieve the cannon for his master. Of course, he naturally flew in from ''behind'' Brawn for maximum safety, but really, who could blame him? {{storylink|Fire on the Mountain}} <br />
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One afternoon, while the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] engaged in yet another grab for energy, Soundwave and the Cassettes carried out Operation: Guinea Pig at the Ark. As his partners Rumble and Ravage created a distraction for the present Autobots, Laserbeak swooped in and carried off one of their human comrades, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]]. Laserbeak delivered the human to Megatron and [[Doctor Arkeville]] for testing of their new [[hypno-chip]]. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 1}} After a successful test, Laserbeak flew out to collect more potential slaves for the Decepticons. He also took advantage of a well-placed earthquake to kidnap [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] as well, while Bumblebee was dangling over a crevace. Unfortunately for the beryllium buzzard, [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] was on the scene. His sharpshooting ability blasted Spike right out of Laserbeak's clutches, and drove off the Decepticon spy. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 2}} After the plot to change Cybertron's orbit failed, Laserbeak reported to Megatron about the treachery of Starscream and Doctor Arkeville. Seeking out the traitors, Megatron and the Decepticons ran afoul of the Autobots along the way. To deter pursuit, Megatron led the Autobot cars into a valley of quicksand, hoping they would sink out of his way forever. He left Laserbeak behind to monitor their demise. When [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] started to get his hand free, Laserbeak tried to divebomb the Autobot, only to be blasted by [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]]'s rocket launcher. Stunned, the Decepticon reverted to his cassette mode, and was captured by Jazz. Once the Autobots got free, Jazz used his own audio system to replay Laserbeak's findings, alerting the Autobots to the Decepticons' destination at Arkeville's secret lab. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}} <br />
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On a routine scouting mission, Laserbeak uncovered information about [[Insecticon (G1)|giant robotic insects]] in Bali, and relayed the info to Megatron. {{storylink|A Plague of Insecticons}} When Megatron arranged a bout of single combat between himself and Optimus Prime, Soundwave ejected Laserbeak to watch the festivities along with the rest of the two armies. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}}<br />
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Proving once again that he spends more time at the Ark than with the Decepticons, Laserbeak happened to be on the scene to learn Spike Witwicky was mentally unstable and possessing the powerful "spare" Autobot called [[Autobot X]]. {{storylink|Autobot Spike}} On his next mission, Laserbeak attacked a group of innocent gold prospectors. After he had his fun, though, Soundwave put him back in his cage for awhile. He popped out again later on to take potshots at his favorite weak target, Bumblebee. {{storylink|Changing Gears}} When the Decepticons moved their operations to New York City, Laserbeak was put on Autobot patrol, and alerted Megatron to their enemies' rendez-vous in [[Central Park]]. He was also joined by his flying buddy, [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], for the first time in this battle. {{storylink|City of Steel}} In an attack on the Ark, Laserbeak and the Decepticons were charged with distracting the Autobots while Megatron and Starscream snuck inside to sabotage the Autobots' equipment. Laserbeak bit off more than he could handle with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], though, and ended up being lassoed to the Autobot's rifle. It was a stand-off as Laserbeak fired at Prowl from the air while Prowl tried to drag him to the ground, until Megatron sounded the retreat. Laserbeak cut the wire with his blasts and took off as fast as his little wings could carry him. {{storylink|Attack of the Autobots}}<br />
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Laserbeak's next patrol duty was around the desert laboratory where Megatron was testing his stolen [[electro-cell]]s. He alerted Soundwave the moment he sighted Autobot intruders, then hid inside his cozy chest cavity. {{storylink|Traitor}} When the human girl named [[Carly]] attempted to raid Decepticon headquarters on her own, Soundwave sent Laserbeak up to the surface to capture her. He succeeded, proving once again that he is occasionally strong enough to defeat a single human. He did, however, fail to recapture the [[Wheeljack Instant Immobilizer|Immobilizer]] for the Decepticons soon thereafter. {{storylink|The Immobilizer}} Returning to his spying duties, Laserbeak learned of Spike and Chip's plan for an Autobot road rally for charity. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}} <br />
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Laserbeak and Buzzsaw discovered the city of [[Sub-Atlantica]] on the bottom of the ocean floor, which led to an uneasy alliance between the Sub-Atlanticans and the Decepticons, and the subsequent attack of both parties on [[Washington, D.C.]] In D.C., Laserbeak popped out of Soundwave and was almost immediately shot down by Hound. By the time he was back in the air, the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s had broken through the Decepticon defenses and [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] took out Laserbeak and Buzzsaw with missiles moments after arriving at the battle. Some days it just doesn't pay to come out of the tapedeck. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}}<br />
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In order to gain control over the super-computer [[TORQ III]], Laserbeak was joined by Megatron and Soundwave in his infiltration of the defense compound where the computer was housed. Laser blasting their way to the core, Megatron was able to reprogram the computer to serve only him. Using TORQ to guide them, Megatron arranged for countless oil tankers to converge on Decepticon headquarters. An Autobot scouting party attempting to thwart his plans at the site, but Laserbeak swiped Spike Witwicky in the middle of battle and forced the Autobots to lay down their arms. [[Image:PrimeProblem_laserbeak_scan.jpg|right|thumb|225px]] Luckily, another contingent of Autobots confronted TORQ directly, deactivating the computer, and made their way to Megatron's refinery, freeing their friends. {{storylink|Day of the Machines}} At the unveiling of [[Doctor Fujiyama the Famous Scientist|Doctor Fujiyama]]'s robot ninja, [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird]], Laserbeak stormed the ceremony with Rumble and Frenzy, causing considerable chaos. {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}} <br />
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Despite his well-documented cowardice, Laserbeak is sometimes surprisingly effective in combat. Immediately after Optimus Prime single-handedly disarmed Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp at once in battle, Laserbeak swooped out of the sky and managed to incapacitate Prime just as easily with a hail of laser beams. At Megatron's direction, however, he did not finish the job. Instead, Laserbeak used his recording equipment to create a fully-body holographic scan of the Autobot leader, allowing Megatron to manufacture a [[Optimus Prime clone|perfect duplicate]] of Optimus Prime for his plans. Later on, he also easily overpowered Starscream and unceremoniously dragged him back to Megatron in his talons. Clearly, Laserbeak had been eating some top notch birdfeed that week. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}} <br />
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Laserbeak observed the Autobots observing the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s deep core drilling project. He alerted Megatron to the spies, and the Decepticons rose to the surface to drive off the snoops. {{storylink|The Core}} When the Decepticons assaulted the [[Nova Power Plant]], Soundwave released Laserbeak and Buzzsaw to torment the Autobots. Instead, [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] and Jazz were overjoyed at being part of an "overgrown turkey shoot", and they blasted Laserbeak out of the sky. Laserbeak was also briefly taken over by [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]'s [[cerebro-shell]]s when the Insecticons were at odds with Megatron, but soon recovered. {{storylink|The Insecticon Syndrome}} <br />
[[Image:MMP1_berger_and_laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|225px|"Jerry, you are my favourite."]]<br />
Stationed outside the Autobot base, Soundwave learned of the prehistoric [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]] and its potential for rich sources of energy. At Megatron's behest, he dispatched Laserbeak to follow [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] and the Dinobots to the island and observe. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} One time, he got "over-energized" and crashed beak-first into a sand dune. Did a nice loop-the-loop, though. {{storylink|Microbots}}<br />
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Megatron's next plan involved some masterful manipulation of the power-hungry human named [[Shawn Berger]]. Laserbeak snuck himself into Burger's office in cassette mode, then retrieved the human for a friendly chat with Megatron on a nearby hillside. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} [[Image:MMP2 laserbeak wanna cracker.jpg|left|thumb|225px]] When the Decepticons' plan to turn the people of Earth against the Autobots succeeded, they briefly acted as "friends of the Earth" for Megatron's amusement. Laserbeak and the cassettes went to a local teen dance with Soundwave to mingle with the fleshlings. One of the kids asked if "Laserbeak wanna cracker". Never has a giant, speechless robot bird conveyed so much raw hatred with a single look. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}<br />
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When the Decepticons got involved in a massive scheme with the Insecticons, the Autobots attempted to acquire some [[robotic insecticide]] to use against the enemy. Laserbeak reported their search back to Megatron, who became interested in acquiring the insecticide himself, in case the Insecticons ever proved troublesome. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}} After receiving a distress signal from [[Deceptitran]], the Decepticons arrived to help stop the revolt of the [[Tlalakan]]s. Laserbeak performed some reconnaissance, and uncovered the Autobot allies of the Tlalakans. He also located the secret city of the Tlalakans after a raiding party hit Deceptitran's temple. {{storylink|Sea Change}} <br />
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Laserbeak's keen observational skills failed him when the Autobots disguised themselves as Stunticons in order to get close to Megatron and his latest scheme. His sensors were unable to penetrate the [[camouflage paint]] they used to hide their true identities. {{storylink|Masquerade}} After Megatron infected the Autobots with the [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|cosmic rust]] virus, Laserbeak infiltrated the Ark to bring back visuals of their enemies' suffering. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}} When Starscream finally mouthed off one time too many, Megatron finally kicked him out of the house. Soundwave sent Laserbeak to unceremoniously drop Starscream on an island near Guadalcanal. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}<br />
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[[Image:TFTM_laserbeaks_findings.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Maybe if Autobot Command didn't have so many open windows...]]<br />
One of Laserbeak's greatest claims to fame was that he was partly responsible for the [[Battle of Autobot City]] in [[2005]]. By that point, the Decepticons had succeeded in conquering Cybertron, but the Autobots retained two of its moons and a large force on [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]]. Laserbeak was dispatched to spy on [[Moonbase One]], where he overheard Optimus Prime order a supply ship to acquire [[energon]] for an upcoming assault. Laserbeak took the information back to Megatron, who hijacked the shuttle and used it to attack Autobot City. The battle ultimately resulted in the fatal wounding of Megatron, who was cast adrift in space on the Decepticons' return trip to Cybertron; when the Decepticons began arguing among themselves over who should become the next leader, Soundwave ejected Laserbeak and his other cassettes to fight for his honor. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} <br />
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Later in 2005, during the Decepticons' attempt to prevent a replacement [[transformation cog|transforming cog]] to the Autobot city of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]], Laserbeak was deployed alongside [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] from within the Decepticons' own city-bot, [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], to investigate the crash site of the cog's courier, [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]. They discovered that Sky Lynx and his passengers had survived, and Laserbeak swooped in to take out the cog's carrier [[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]], only to be foiled by a bit of lateral passing. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}<br />
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In [[2006]], when [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] and [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] threatened to mutiny over the continued insane leadership of [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], Laserbeak sided with the would-be rebels. Forced into action by their threats, [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] sought psychiatric aid for Galvatron on [[Torkulon]]. The therapy did nothing to improve Galvatron's demeanour, but nevertheless, the mutiny never happened. {{storylink|Webworld}}<br />
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=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====<br />
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In Japan, Soundwave and his Cassettes made an attack on the lone Autobot scout, [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]. Bumblebee dodged their first attack, and so Laserbeak and his partners went chasing after him. Bumblebee circled back, however, damaging Soundwave's chest compartment so the Cassettes couldn't hide. Laserbeak got caught trying to re-enter his boss, and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] ripped out his magnetic tape instead. Harsh. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 2|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #2}}<br />
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=====Full Throttle Scramble Power!=====<br />
When the Decepticons wreaked havoc across the Earth with their new [[Omega Whip]] cannon, Laserbeak was among the Decepticons out and about gathering up energy the devastation had created.{{storylink|Full Throttle Scramble Power!}}<br />
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=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====<br />
:''Voice actor:'' [[Ken Yamaguchi]] (Japanese), [[Roberto Alexander]] (Spanish)<br />
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[[Image:MysteryPlanetMaster LaserbeakHead.JPG|left|225px|thumb|Such devotion.]]<br />
In the year 2011, when [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] was searching the Earth for the missing [[Matrix of Leadership]], Soundwave ambushed him at the North Pole and deployed Laserbeak and Buzzsaw to draw his fire while he attempted to shoot the Autobot in the back. Blaster and his cassettes intervened, and in the ensuing battle, Soundwave and Blaster destroyed each other. Laserbeak swooped in to recover Soundwave's head, while the other airborne cassettes recovered as many of his pieces as they could, taking them back to Chaar. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}}<br />
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The Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] leader [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] used the technology of planet [[Master (planet)|Master]] to restore Soundwave to life as Soundblaster; Laserbeak and all the other cassettes watched over the reconstruction process, and cheered at their master's revival. Soundblaster was immediately put to work remote-controlling the magnetic [[Madmachine]], and when Blaster—now rebuilt as Twincast—arrived to try and stop him, Laserbeak, Buzzsaw and Ratbat attempted to fend him off. Twincast sent out his own [[Autobot Mini-Cassette|cassettes]] to keep them busy as he successfully saw his mission through. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}<br />
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Laserbeak later spied on the Autobot base on [[Athenia]], observing as the Autobots [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] headed off to Earth to deal with an erupting volcano. He and Soundblaster presented this information to Scorponok, who considered it all part of his plan. {{storylink|The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts}} Soundblaster's standing in the intelligence game proceeded to slip a bit, however, as the new recruit [[Punch (G1)|Counterpunch]] suddenly started providing enemy intel that neither Laserbeak nor any of Soundblaster's cassettes could dig up a trace of. Suitably miffed at the whole affair, Laserbeak and Ravage spied on a meeting between Scorponok and Counterpunch, and went to kick up a fuss with Soundblaster about the matter. Laserbeak advocated getting straight to work trying to put the newbie in his place by upstaging him, and the team all headed to Earth to try to dig up some new info. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}}<br />
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Laserbeak and the other cassettes later patrolled the area around the Decepticon base on [[Master (planet)|Master]], alongside a few Decepticon [[Targetmaster]] partners. {{storylink|Operation: Destroy the Decepticons}}<br />
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After Soundblaster crash-landed following his encounter with [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]]'s "Master Chrome Hurricane-Throw to the End of Hell" attack, Laserbeak and the other animal cassettes (minus [[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]] and [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]) stood stoicly over his groggy form while [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] and [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] panicked at the approach of [[Sixshot]]. {{storylink|The Headmasters issue 8|The Headmasters #8}}<br />
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===Big Looker Storybooks===<br />
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Laserbeak was part of a particularly ferocious battle that left both Autobots and Decepticon badly damaged and low on fuel. Following the fight's end, Laserbeak was among the airborne Decepticons who used what little strength they had left to buzz the Autobots' headquarters, intending to distract them from the hijack of an oil truck that their fellow Decepticons were carrying out nearby. The plan was foiled by space-borne Autobot [[Shooting Star]], who clued the Autobots into the deception. {{storylink|Decepticon Hijack}}<br />
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===Ladybird Books===<br />
[[Image:AutobotsLightningStrike_laserbeak.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A bird in the hand...]]<br />
Laserbeak spied upon the Autobots when they were in the midst of a large construction project, but for all his observations, he was unable to deduce what the large mast that the heroic robots were building actually was. He took his findings back to Megatron, but he couldn't make anything of them, and so had Laserbeak lead Soundwave back to the mast for further study. Even the master communicator couldn't make heads or tails of the structure, so Laserbeak was posted to watch for some sign of Autobot activity that might reveal its purpose. Discovering that an Autobot installation had been built inside the mountain beneath the mas, Laserbeak alerted the other Decepticons, who immediately attacked. Unfortunately for them, it turned out that the mast was a lightning rod, which channeled the electricity of the thunderstorm currently raging right into the mountain chamber, frying the Decepticons and forcing them to retreat, leaving the Autobots none the wiser. {{storylink|Autobots' Lightning Strike}}<br />
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Seeking to learn more about humanity in order to exploit the Autobots' concern for them, Megatron had Laserbeak sent to study human settlements and behavioural patterns. Following a car into a small village, Laserbeak was intruiged by a windmill on a neaby hill, but when he attempted to investigate, he accidentally collided with some high-voltage power lines, which short-circuited his transformation systems and trapped him in cassette mode. He was found the next morning by the engineers who arrived to repair the power lines, but was promptly discarded when they found that the "cassette" contained no music. A young boy found him soon after and brought him home, where the boy's mother added him to a box of cassettes that were taken to a disco at the town hall that night. There, upon insertion into the disc jockey's tape deck, Laserbeak drained the energy from the sound system and re-energized his systems, allowing him to explode from the machinery in bird-form once again. With a mob of villagers hot on his heels, Laserbeak returned to the nearby windmill, which had in his absence become a battleground for the Autobots and Decepticons. In the midst of the battle, Laserbeak was struck by one of the windmills sails. The conflict ended with the windmill's destruction, but the villagers never learned of the Transformers' involvement—the bigger news story on the front page of the [[Paprika Plain|Paprika Plains Informer]] the next day was that of the "Winged Demon" at the disco! {{storylink|Laserbeak's Fury}}<br />
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===''The Transformers'' Adventure Game Books===<br />
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Upon the discovery of a buried flying saucer beneath the new [[Wizard's Cave]] attraction, Laserbeak and Ravage went to [[Disneyland]] to try and salvage any advanced technology. Unfortunately they hadn't counted on [[you]] activating a [[time-sphere]], transporting them four million years back in time. There, they decided to destroy the Autobots lying in stasis aboard the Ark, and, after tangling with the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] and [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], Laserbeak located the flying saucer containing the time-sphere. <br />
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*Laserbeak killed one of the [[time-travelling alien]]s, but the other transported him and Ravage away into the time-stream.<br />
*Laserbeak was transported back to the present day where he escaped, or was possibly lost in time.<br />
*Laserbeak shoots you with his ruby lasers. Without you to stop them, the Decepticons presumably carried out their plan and went on to conquer the Earth. {{storylink|Dinobot War}}<br />
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===The Battle for Planet Earth===<br />
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Thanks to Laserbeak's spying, the Decepticons were alerted to the Autobots searching for energy in [[South America]]. Once the other Decepticons arrived there, they tried to attack the Autobots atop [[Mount Sheelah]]. The volcano erupted, burying all but Laserbeak with lava, and Laserbeak had to return to base to get help. {{storylink|Terror of Mount Sheelah}} He was at the Decepticon base, taking advantage of the human slave labor they had kidnapped, when [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] infiltrated the base. {{storylink|Bumblebee to the Rescue (G1)|Bumblebee to the Rescue}} Laserbeak was left behind to guard the base while the other Decepticons went to attack [[Stanley Lake]] dam. {{storylink|Menace at the Dam}} He was among the Decepticons consulted by [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] for ideas on getting back at the Autobots. After Starscream successfully infiltrated the Autobots by pretending to defect, he sent the Decepticons to [[Mount Levram]] to destroy an [[Deuterium Orbital Laser Tracing System|Autobot super-weapon]], but when Laserbeak and the others returned to their base, it had been destroyed by the Autobots. {{storylink|Espionage!!!!!}}<br />
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===Kids' Comic Special===<br />
Laserbeak joined Soundwave in stealing energy from the town of [[Midville]]. When a team of Autobots showed up to foil their plot, both Decepticons retreated and Laserbeak shot down a nearby tree in to block the ground-based Autobots and give themselves leeway to escape. {{Storylink|The Night the Transformers Saved Christmas}}<br />
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===Find Your Fate Junior===<br />
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Laserbeak snores when he sleeps. It sounds like a little chainsaw! {{storylink|Decepticon Poison}} Also, he can talk. {{storylink|The Invisibility Factor}}<br />
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Laserbeak scouted out the situation on [[Tau-Ursa]], locating a demonstration of [[Monitorus]]'s new invention, and bringing in a full Decepticon attack force. {{storylink|The War Against the Destructons, Chapter 1 of 3}}<br />
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===The Official Transformers: Generation 2 Annual===<br />
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===Dreamwave ''Generation 1'' comics===<br />
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Around 8.2 million years ago, on Cybertron, shortly after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] became the new [[Prime (rank)|Autobot leader]], Laserbeak performed an aerial recon of Iacon, discovering that Prime's first command had been for the Autobots to prepare a fleet of starships to evacuate the planet. {{storylink|The War Within issue 2|The War Within #2}} Not long after, when Starscream briefly usurped command of the Decepticons, he had every scrap of information in Laserbeak's systems forcibly downloaded, in order to learn more about Megatron's plans for Cybertron. {{storylink|The War Within issue 4|The War Within #4}} Megatron soon returned and put Starscream in his place, but then, around 1.2 million years later, the Decepticon leader vanished in a space bridge accident, and control of the Decepticons split into several smaller factions. Laserbeak and the other Cassettes remained with Soundwave, under the command of Shockwave in the primary Decepticon faction. {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages}}<br />
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After the crash of the ''Nemesis'', Laserbeak was reactivated on Earth in 1984 and fought alongside the Decepticons in that pocket version of the greater war. Believed dead after the explosion of the ''[[Ark II]]'', Laserbeak and most of the other Transformers were in fact salvaged and reprogrammed by the human named [[Lazarus]], with the intention of selling them on the black market as weapons of mass destruction. As a demonstration for potential buyers, he had a group of Transformers assault the [[Smitco Oil Refinery]], and had Laserbeak record the images to be played back during the auction. Unfortunately for Lazarus, it was during that selfsame auction that Megatron broke free of his control. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 2|Prime Directive #2}} Megatron subsequently liberated the other Decepticons, and Laserbeak was stationed as lookout at the perimeter of Lazarus's captured Arctic base. Before long, he reported on the approach of Optimus Prime and several other Autobots who had escaped capture by Lazarus. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3|Prime Directive #3}} Laserbeak subsequently joined the Decepticons for a massive attack on San Francisco. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 4|Prime Directive #4}}<br />
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''After Megatron was kidnapped into deep space by the [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]] and Starscream assumed control of the Decepticons, Laserbeak accepted his rule along with Soundwave and the other Cassettes. They set up a new base of operation in the human city of [[Las Vegas]], Nevada. Taking a new tactic, Starscream arranged to work with the humans instead of against them, offering the residents of Sin City fame and fortune, while helping the Las Vegas PD coordinate their anti-crime efforts more effectively. Laserbeak performed constant reconnaissance patrols, reporting to Soundwave when human police officers were needed to perform "preventative maintenance" at potential crisis sites. {{storylink|Transformers: Hardwired|Hardwired}}''<br />
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''Once Megatron returned, the Decepticons were broken into two factions under his and Starscream's control. Remarkably, Laserbeak chose to remain in Las Vegas with Starscream while Megatron and Soundwave left the city with their faction. He was taken prisoner with Starscream's other soldiers by the Keepers once they made Las Vegas their base of operations, and was trapped behind a massive force field. They eventually escaped thanks to the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], and joined a united force of Autobots and Decepticons in assaulting the Keepers' position. Laserbeak joined [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] in performing aerial sweeps and strafing runs during the battle. {{storylink|Transformers: Annihilation|Annihilation}} Later, during a battle with the American military in the Nevada desert, Laserbeak was struck down by [[deconstructionite]] rounds and had to be carried to safety by the [[Omega Sentinel (G1)|Omega Sentinel]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Fusion|Fusion}}''<br />
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===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br />
[[Image:JoevsTF3_seyes_decapitates_lbeak.jpg|right|thumb]]<br />
Laserbeak was one of the many Transformers recovered from the crashed ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' by [[Cobra]]. He was repaired and retrofitted by [[Doctor Mindbender]], who proudly displayed him, Soundwave, and his fellow Mini-Cassettes to [[Destro]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #2}} Laserbeak was released by Soundwave, along with [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], during an attack on the [[SPS Research Facility|SPS Center]]. Laserbeak managed to escape the first wave of [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] defenders and enter the building, gunning down [[Gung-Ho]] and [[Clutch (G.I. Joe)|Clutch]]. Shortly afterwards, he was decapitated by [[Snake-Eyes]]. His body was taken into custody by the Joes. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 3|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers #3}}<br />
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===''Transformers/G.I. Joe''===<br />
[[Image:TFJoe6 laserbeak.jpg|left|thumb|275px]]<br />
Laserbeak was among the Decepticons who lay deactivated on the [[Fera Islands]] for several million years, until [[Cobra]] awakened them and took control of them in 1938. One year later, after Cobra had used the Decepticons to ravage most of [[Europe]], Laserbeak was sent to the spy on how the [[United States of America|United States]] would react. He witnessed the creation of [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]], although [[Duke (G.I. Joe)|Duke]] spotted the spy and opened fire on him. Laserbeak made the human drop his gun by firing a precision laser through his hand, before escaping and reporting his findings to Soundwave. {{storylink|The Line}}<br />
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When G.I. Joe teamed up with the Autobots and attacked the Cobra [[Terrordrome]], Laserbeak was punched by [[Ironhide (G1)|Iron Hide]] {{sic}}. If he survived the battle, he most likely died anyway when the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] was destroyed. {{storylink|The Iron Fist}}<br />
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===The Beast Within===<br />
[[Image:BeastWithin_seekers_laserbeak_destroyed.jpg|right|thumb|275px]]<br />
When the [[Beast (G1)|Beast]] formed, Starscream ordered the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] to attack the behemoth. Laserbeak, thinking that he was a Seeker, joined them, and was smacked along with [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] and [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], blowing up as a result. He blew up real good. {{storylink|The Beast Within}} His corpse would later be one of many that littered the battlefield as Autobot survivors tried to escape the Beast. {{storylink|The Beast Within Part 2, Consequences}}<br />
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===''Transformers Legends''===<br />
Laserbeak and Ravage spied on Starscream after the Seeker's latest falling out with Megatron, and watched Starscream fall off a mountain. After reporting back to Soundwave, they spied some more and got footage of Starscream acting chummy with the Autobots. It was only after he spotted Laserbeak, that the amnesiac Starscream finally regained his memory. {{storylink|Redemption Center}}<br />
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Laserbeak was sent by Soundwave to spy on Swindle, who it turned out had been selling Decepticon weapons to [[Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya|Carbombia]]. Laserbeak reported back to base with a recording of Swindle doing a deal, much to Megatron's rage. {{storylink|Two for the Price of One}}<br />
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===<br />
[[Image:MegsOrigin2 laserbeak bumper.jpg|left|thumb|200px]]<br />
Prior to the outbreak of war on Cybertron, Soundwave and his cassettes were dispatched by Senator Ratbat to approach the infamous underground gladiator [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] with the prospect of an alliance. Upon detecting that Autobot spies [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]] were observing the meeting, Soundwave deployed Laserbeak, Buzzsaw and Ravage to deal with them. Laserbeak pinned Bumper so Soundwave could read his mind. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 2|Megatron Origin #2}} As time passed, Soundwave's loyalties shifted and he truly sided with Megatron when he founded the Decepticon faction and began the civil war. In the uprising that began the conflict, Laserbeak accompanied Soundwave and his other cassettes in executing the [[Senate]] members in [[Kaon]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}} Some time later, he spied on [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]]'s arrest of [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] in [[Nyon]]. {{storylink|Law and Disorder}} During a meeting with Orion Pax, Megatron had Laserbeak replay Soundwave's recording of [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta Prime]]'s plans to drain energy from Nyon's population. {{storylink|Cause and Effect}}<br />
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At a later point in the war, Laserbeak charged the Autobot position with Soundwave and a horde of Decepticons, in a vain attempt to keep them from interfering with an energon convoy headed for Megatron's troops. {{storylink|The Iron Age}}<br />
[[Image:SpotlightSoundwave laserbeak bludgeoned.jpg|right|thumb|225px|Bye-bye, birdie.]]<br />
Four million years later, in 1984, Laserbeak accompanied Soundwave and Ravage to Earth to remotely spy on [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]'s mysterious activities on the planet. Following a pair of [[facsimile construct]]s, Laserbeak discovered Bludgeon's headquarters within [[Mount St. Helens]], and quickly brought Soundwave there. Unfortunately, during the battle, a katana-slash from Bludgeon took Laserbeak down, and he, Soundwave and Ravage were entombed in lava when Bludgeon caused the volcano to erupt to cover his escape. A year later, Laserbeak and Ravage were dug up by a mysterious government organization known as [[Skywatch]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Soundwave}}<br />
[[Image:Devastation6 cassettes captured.jpg|left|thumb|225px]]<br />
Over the following twenty years, Laserbeak and Ravage were reprogrammed by Skywatch to seek out other Transformers. {{storylink|Escalation issue 6|Escalation #6}} After a sudden surge in Transformer activity on Earth, they were released on their first hunt, only for Soundwave—trapped his cassette player mode and in the possession of a human named [[Jimmy]]—to detect their presence and block Skywatch's control signal, freeing his subordinates. {{storylink|Devastation issue 4|Devastation #4}} Locating their master, Laserbeak and Ravage broke into Jimmy's home and carried Soundwave away, but were unable to do anything to repair him. Fortunately, [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]] soon met with them and negotiated a deal to restore Soundwave to his true form. {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 4|Maximum Dinobots #4}} As part of the plan, Laserbeak and Ravage were left lying dormant in a forest to be recaptured by Skywatch, only to awaken and murder their would-be captors as soon as Shockwave freed Soundwave from his condition. {{storylink|Maximum Dinobots issue 5|Maximum Dinobots #5}}<br />
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Laserbeak returned to Soundwave, who in turn returned to Megatron, and a year later the Decepticons attacked [[New York City]]. During the battle, Laserbeak helped destroy some human jets. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1|All Hail Megatron #1}} After some scouting, he learned that the humans were sending ground forces at them, then reported to Soundwave and perched on his shoulder. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 2|All Hail Megatron #2}} He was still on said shoulder when Megatron told Starscream that Soundwave and Laserbeak had been keeping their eyes on the Seeker as he planned his revolt. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10|All Hail Megatron #10}} After the Autobots beat up Megatron, Laserbeak and the other Decepticons fled the planet. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}}<br />
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Three years later, Laserbeak was seen perching on Soundwave's shoulder as he and Shockwave rebuilt Megatron. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 2: Altered Carbon|Altered Carbon}} He was among the Decepticons captured and fitted with [[inhibitor/deterrence chip]]s by the Autobots once the war ended. {{storylink|The Autonomy Lesson}} Soundwave and most of the cassettes were later captured by [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and brought to [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]'s [[Black Room]] {{storylink|The End of the Beginning of the World}} where they were upgraded, with Laserbeak receiving a new data disc alternate mode. {{storylink|The Verge}} Together with Buzzsaw and Ravage he helped capture [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Metalhawk]], then joined the rest of the Decepticons in their conquest of Cybertron. {{storylink|Before the Dawn}} When the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] joined the fray, Laserbeak and Buzzsaw fought with [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] in the air. {{storylink|Plan for Everything}} He was later blasted out of the sky by the turncoat [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]. {{storylink|Heavy Is the Head}}<br />
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===Beast Wars continuity===<br />
====Dawn of Future's Past====<br />
[[Image:Laserbeakbuzzsawdawn.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Iron birds of fortune.]]<br />
At the end of the great war most Decepticons granted amnesty simply retired and vanished from public life. So too would have been the fate of Laserbeak if not for the intervention of the [[Predacon (G1)| Predacon]] [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]]. Divebomb granted Laserbeak, [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] a new lease on life, rebuilding them into members of the new faction of Predacons.<br />
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Predacon [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s theft of the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] was closely watched by Divebomb, who sent Laserbeak and Buzzsaw to ensure Megatron and his rogues reached their destination. [[Buzzsaw and Laserbeak's ship|Their ship]] intercepted the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'', pummelling it with missiles. Before it could come back for another pass, it was fired upon by the ''[[Chromia 10]]'', giving the ''Axalon'' enough time to restore enough power to return fire and completely destroy Laserbeak and Buzzsaw's ship, with the pair inside. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}<br />
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====Recordicons====<br />
While in a bar with Buzzsaw, Laserbeak complained that the bartender had spelled his name with a 'z', which made him look like an illiterate loser. [[Lazorbeak]], sitting nearby, looked unhappy. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #16|Recordicons #16}}<br />
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==Games==<br />
===Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons===<br />
When Optimus embarked on his mission to rescue the Autobots' [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] troops from the Decepticons, Laserbeak could hinder Optimus Prime's progress, by giving him a flat tire, thus stalling him briefly. {{storylink|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons packaging blurb and game}}<br />
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===''Transformers: Mystery of Convoy''===<br />
Lazerbeak was amongst the numerous [[Decepticon]]s seeking [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]'s destruction in order the halt the Autobot's quest. {{storylink|Transformers: Mystery of Convoy}}<br />
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===''The Transformers'' (Commodore 64)===<br />
[[Image:Commmodore64_laserbeak_mirage.jpg|left|thumb|Laserbeak is the vague collection of pixels that don't resemble a pipe.]]<br />
"Lazerbreak" {{sic}} was among the Decepticons who tried to prevent the Autobots from recovering the scattered pieces of their [[Energon cube]]s. Created by the power of [[Robo-Cloning]], innumerable duplicate copies of Lazerbreak bedevilled the Autobots on their quest. {{storylink|The Transformers (Commodore 64)|The Transformers}}<br />
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===''The Transformers (PS2)===<br />
[[Image:TF_PS2_Laserbeak.jpg|thumb|250px|]]<br />
{{bigquote|Laserbeak is a good and faithful servant. He may share with a certain somebody the ability to fly, and the red body and black face too, but that's where the similarities end.|Megatron|''[[The Transformers (PS2)|The Transformers]]''}}<br />
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====Decepticon story====<br />
Laserbeak found the Autobots guarding the [[Ranpas geothermal plant]] and reported it to Megatron. He also snitched on Starscream, who was pilfering the energon cubes the Decepticons had obtained from the following adventure. Later, he found the UFO. {{storylink|The Transformers (PS2)|The Transformers}}<br />
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===''Sector Seven'' game===<br />
[[Image:S7 NBE57.jpg|left|thumb|250px]]<br />
In a strange world where Transformers are a government secret that inspired toys, a cartoon, a [[Transformers (film)|film]] and more, a robot resembling Laserbeak was captured on film by some civilians when he transformed out of his alternate mode as a flash card into a vaguely draconian avian robot mode, remaining at the same diminutive size, and flew away. The footage fell into the hands of [[Sector Seven]], who classified this robot "[[Non-Biological Extraterrestrial|N.B.E.]] 57". {{storylink|Sector Seven (game)|Sector Seven}}<br />
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===''Transformers Legends''===<br />
Laserbeak took part in a covert infiltration of the Autobot base led by Soundwave, allowing them to pass information back to the Decepticons and ensure a string of Decepticon victories. They were eventually uncovered by [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]], and sent packing. {{storylink|Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Covert Operations}}<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
[[Image:LaserbeakG1toy.JPG|right|300px|thumb|Sure, Soundwave comes with that other guy, but you know you want me.]]<br />
*'''Frenzy & Laserbeak''' (Cassette 2-pack, 1984/1985)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right laser guns<br />
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:Originally a ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]'' "Micro Cassette Robo Condor", Laserbeak transforms into a microcassette that can fit into the tape door of the [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] toys. He was released in a two-pack with [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] in Hasbro markets across 1984 and 1985; in the latter year, a heat-sensitive [[rubsign]] was added to the figure. His chromed thruster-blaster add-ons have some very minor mold variations to them, like several other early ''Transformers'' toys... which we're frankly not going to try and catalog which later reissues have which versions because ''argh''.<br />
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:This mold was also used to make [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]], [[Garboil (G1)|Garboil]] and [[Sundor]].<br />
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Laserbeak/laserbeak.htm More information on Laserbeak at TFU.info]''<br />
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[[Image:G1toy_japanese_laserbeaks.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Condor''' (Cassettron, 1985/1986/1987)<br />
**''ID number:'' '''20''' (1985), '''D-60''' (1986), '''D-105''' (1987)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right laser guns, tape case<br />
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:1985 saw [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] release Laserbeak (AKA "Condor") in Japan, all on his lonesome. Like all his cassette contemporaries, he was packaged in a small box, came with a clear tape case he could be "stored" in. He was re-released in Japan in 1986, this time on a blister card, with a new ID number and without his case, and then again in 1987, with his original packaging and case reinstated, with yet another ID number.<br />
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Laserbeak/laserbeak.htm More information on Laserbeak at TFU.info]''<br />
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===The Transformers Collection===<br />
[[Image:TFC_reissue_laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (2003)<br />
**''ID number:'' '''10'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right laser guns, tape case<br />
:The original Laserbeak toy was reissued for the first time as part of Takara's ''[[The Transformers Collection|Transformers Collection]]'' series, coming with a reissue of Soundwave. The set included the tape case from his original Japanese release, but featured noticeably lighter orange stickers in tape mode.<br />
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===Titanium Series===<br />
[[Image:Titaniumtoy laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (6" Cybertron Heroes)<br />
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:Among the smallest of all Transformers, ''Titanium'' Laserbeak is a tiny 1" wide rendition of his cassette form, though without the holes normally seen on tapes. Like the larger Soundwave figure he comes with, his design deviates somewhat from his original design, instead being black with red stripes. He also does not come with his jet pack.<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/TitLaserbeak/laserbeak.htm More information on Titanium Laserbeak at TFU.info]''<br />
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===Timelines===<br />
[[Image:Timelinestoy_laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Laserbeak and Buzzsaw''' (BotCon souvenir set, 2006)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right Energon blades, [[Energon star]]<br />
:A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]] [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]], Laserbeak transforms from a humanoid robot to a robotic bird of prey. He came with a pair of clear-blue blades that can combine to form a large [[energon weapon]], plus a blue Decepticon-style [[Energon star|energon chip]]. He was available only as a poly-bagged set with his mold-mate Buzzsaw, sold as an "at the show" souvenir set at [[BotCon 2006]], limited to 500 pieces.<br />
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:This mold was also used to make the Terrorcon [[Blackout (Terrorcon)|Blackout]].<br />
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Predacon/BCLaserbeak/laserbeak.htm More information on Timelines Laserbeak at TFU.info]''<br />
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===Classics===<br />
[[Image:Classicstoy_laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (Commemorative Edition, 2007)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right laser guns, tape cases<br />
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:Hasbro's first reissue of the original Laserbeak toy came packaged with Soundwave and "Battle" Ravage. The set was originally intended to be part of their ''[[The Transformers: Generation One Commemorative Series|Commemorative Series]]'' of Generation 1 reissues, but when that line was cancelled, it was instead released as part of the ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' toyline. The phrase "Commemorative Edition" is prominently displayed on the front and sides of the box, though, and it remains exclusive to [[Toys"R"Us]], as all Commemorative Edition toys were. Laserbeak features slightly more orangey-red paint on his body than normal, and comes with a tape case for the first time in Hasbro markets. He and Ravage can now both fit inside Soundwave at the same time, as this edition marked the first Hasbro release of Soundwave with the double-wide chest-door created for his Japanese Soundblaster retooling in 1987.<br />
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===Encore===<br />
[[Image:G1toy encore soundwave.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (2007)<br />
**''ID number:'' '''03'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right laser guns, tape case<br />
:TakaraTomy made the original Laserbeak figure available again as part of their new ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' series of reissues. As with his ''Transformers Collection'' reissue, ''Encore'' Laserbeak features lighter orange labels.<br />
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{{anchor|JapaneseMultipack}}[[Image:G1toy_encore19.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Great Cassette Operation vol.3'''<!--Cassette Daisakusen カセット大作戦 --> (2009)<br />
**''ID number'': '''19'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right laser guns, tape case<br />
:A second ''Encore'' reissue of Laserbeak came in the third in a series of cassette multi-packs, together with [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. This version was the first Japanese reissue to reinstate the darker orange stickers of original figure, but now features the more reddish-orange paint seen on Hasbro's ''Classics'' reissue. As with all the cassettes in the set, he came with his now-familiar clear cassette case.<br />
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===Universe (2008)===<br />
[[Image:Universe2008toy soundwave.jpg|right|thumb|]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (2009)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right laser guns, tape case<br />
:In 2009, Laserbeak was included with yet another reissue of Soundwave as part of the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, this time as a [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] exclusive that was prominently offered at [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2009. Laserbeak still sports his more orangey-red paint job, and comes with his weapons and his own cassette case.<br />
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===Generations===<br />
[[Image:Generationstoy-Laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Now when he perches on Megatron's shoulder, everyone topples over.]]<br />
*'''Laserbeak''' (Scout 2012)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right axes<br />
:Laserbeak is a black, silver, and red [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Skystalker (ROTF)#Revenge of the Fallen|Skystalker]]. He transforms from a robot into a flying-wing-style stealth jet drone similar to the [[wikipedia:BAE Corax|BAE Corax]], with large engine intakes on both sides of the fuselage that resemble those of a [[Wikipedia:Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit|Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit]] and sculpted zigzag patterns like those found on an [[Wikipedia:F-22 Raptor|F-22 Raptor]]. Undocumented in the instructions, the two axes that peg into his palms as weapons for his robot mode can also clip directly to his forearms (giving them a superficial similarity to tonfa). For vehicle mode, they integrate into the stealth jet's wings. The robot mode feet are spring-loaded so the heels and toes collapse down and together when the feet are lifted off the ground. Laserbeak's head has been decoed in a way reminiscent of Laserbeak's pre-Earth form seen in Sunbow's ''The Transformers'' TV series.<br />
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:Laserbeak was first released to Asian markets with entirely English ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' packaging, but later was released also in North America in ''Generations'' packaging that was in both English and Chinese to lampshade the toy's origin. <br />
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:This mold was also used to make [[Sunspot]] and Tokyo Toy Show [[exclusive]] Generation 2 [[Smokescreen (G2)#TokyoToyShow|Smokescreen.]]<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/GDOLaserbeak/laserbeak.htm More information on ''Generations'' Laserbeak at TFU.info]''<br />
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[[Image:Generationstoy-FOCLaserbeak.jpg|thumb|300px|]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (Voyager, 2012)<br />
**''Series / number'': '''1 / 001'''<br />
:*''Japanese ID number:'' '''TG13'''<br />
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:{{note|Laserbeak was repurposed from [[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]].}}<br />
: Part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]] [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron|Fall of Cybertron]]'' Voyager Class toys, [[Soundwave (WFC)#GenerationsVoyager|Soundwave]] comes with [[Legends Class]] '''Laserbeak''', who transforms from a "[[data disc]]" into a robotic bird. He is capable of storing in and launching out of Soundwave's chest compartment, and features a [[Flipchanger|fully automatic, spring-loaded transformation]] to bird mode that is triggered when a button on his underside is pressed.<br />
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: This mold was [[redeco]]ed into [[Buzzsaw (FOC)|Buzzsaw]] and [[Sunder (FOC)|Sunder]], and was also [[retool]]ed into [[Ratbat (WFC)|Ratbat]].<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/FOCLaserbeak/laserbeak.htm More information on ''Generations'' Laserbeak at TFU.info]''<br />
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===Masterpiece===<br />
[[Image:Masterpiecetoy-Laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]<br />
*'''Masterpiece Soundwave''' (2012)<br />
:Included with the Masterpiece release of Soundwave is a Masterpiece Laserbeak. The cassette is the same size of the G1 version, but features a very different transformation sequence that gives him a fully show-accurate design. Differently from the original version, the jet thrusters are not separate kibble, but are rather included in the mold. A small tab on his head hides the camera he used in [[The_Transformers:_The_Movie|the 1986 film]]. <br />
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:This mold was later repainted as ''Masterpiece'' [[Buzzsaw_(G1)|Buzzsaw]].<br />
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*'''Masterpiece Soundwave''' (2013)<br />
:Masterpiece Laserbeak is included with the [[Hasbro]] [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] exclusive version of Masterpiece Soundwave. He features a slightly different deco. A clear version of his microcassette case is included.<br />
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===Commemorative Series===<br />
*'''G1 Soundwave with Ravage & Laserbeak''' (2012)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left and right laser guns<br />
:The next reissue of Laserbeak.<br />
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==Merchandise==<br />
===Transformers Milk Caramel===<br />
[[Image:TFcaramel laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Condor''' (1985)<br />
:A small, soft-rubber figurine of Laserbeak—known in Japan as a ''keshigomu''—was available as part of the first wave of [[Kabaya]]'s ''[[Transformers Milk Caramel]]'' line of [[candy toy]]s. He was available in a variety of colours, including white, blue, sky blue, yellow, green and orange, and as a candy toy, came packaged with chocolate-covered caramel candies.<br />
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===Transformers Choco===<br />
*'''Condor''' (1985)<br />
:A solid-color, snap-together model kit of Laserbeak was released by Kabaya as part of their ''[[Transformers Choco]]'' line of candy toys. It was available in various colors, came with candy-coated chocolates, and could fit inside the chest of the larger ''[[Transformers Gum]]'' model kit of Soundwave.<br />
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===Decoy===<br />
[[Image:Decoy_laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Destron Hero Collection 22''' (multi-pack, 1986)<br />
:Laserbeak was among the many characters released by Takara as part of their own larger series of ''keshigomu'' figures. Like all the Decepticons in the series, he was molded in soft purple rubber, and featured a number sculpted into his back that was the sum total of his Tech Specs, for use in the various games that could be played with the figurines. Laserbeak was available as part of a 22-piece box set of Decepticon figures, and later, in a peach coloration randomly packed as part of various other box sets.<br />
:Laserbeak is notable for being the only one of Takara's original 52 ''keshigomu'' who was ''not'' imported by Hasbro as part of their "[[Decoy]]" promotion. Or at least, he is not included on the checklist packaged with the figures; collectors [[Jon Hartman|Jon]] and [[Karl Hartman]] believe it to be possible that Laserbeak was released by Hasbro, so if you have proof of Laserbeak on a Hasbro card, contact them!<br />
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===Super Collection Figure===<br />
[[Image:SCF HOC megatron laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb]]<br />
*'''Megatron w/ Condor''' (2001)<br />
:Released in the fourth wave of Takara's ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]]'' series of PVC figurines, this retool of the first ''SCF'' Megatron figure featured Laserbeak perching on his left arm. Like all the figures in the fourth wave, the pair were available in both standard full color and metallic silver "pewter" versions, one of each of which was available in a standard case of twelve [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] figures. In eight out of every ten cases, the pewter version came packaged with the right arm of the collectable [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] build-a-figure.<br />
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===Heroes of Cybertron===<br />
*'''Megatron with Laserbeak''' (2003)<br />
:The ''Super Collection Figure'' version of Megatron and Laserbeak was later imported by Hasbro as part of their ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' line. Unlike the Japanese figure, they were cast entirely in translucent red plastic and then painted over, save for a spot on Megatron's head that allowed for a [[light-piping]] effect, and came in blister packaging with a profile card. In a moment of alignment with the Japanese version, rare in ''Heroes of Cybertron'', this version of the figure also came with the right arm of the wave's Metroplex build-a-figure.<br />
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Decepticon/HoCMegatronLaserbeak/megatron.htm More information on Heroes of Cybertron Megatron and Laserbeak at TFU.info]''<br />
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===Mega Super Collection Figure===<br />
[[Image:MegaSCF laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb]]<br />
*'''Megatron''' (2002)<br />
**''ID number:'' '''03'''<br />
:A PVC figurine of Laserbeak was included with this five-inch tall Megatron figure. Laserbeak was redoced into Buzzsaw for inclusion with the exclusive metallic redeco of the set available at Hobby Expo 2002 and Wonderfest 2002.<br />
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===Q-Robo Collection===<br />
[[Image:Qrobo_soundwave.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (2003)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Laserbeak<br />
:A super-deformed PVC of Laserbeak was included as an acecssory with the ''[[Q-Robo Collection Figure|Q-Robo Collection]]'' version of Soundwave, which could fit into his chest as if in mid-ejection. Like all the figures in the series, it was sold blindpacked in a plastic capsule, and was also available in a translucent purple color scheme.<br />
::*''[http://snakas.web.fc2.com/figure/q_robo1.htm More information on the Q-Robo Collection at Autobase Aichi]''<br />
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===Generation 1 Figure-Collection===<br />
[[Image:Bottlecap_soundwave.JPG|right|thumb|]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (2003)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-3'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Display base<br />
:Laserbeak sits perched on the shoulder of this Soundwave "bottlecap" figurine, so named because its display base is the size of a bottlecap. It was one of fourteen blindpacked figures available in Kabaya's Transformers [[Generation 1 Figure-Collection]], rendered in a "retro" black and white color scheme, which came packaged with a leaflet personalized with cartoon screen captures.<br />
::*''[http://snakas.web.fc2.com/misc_item/kabaya_bottle.htm More information on the Generation 1 collection at Autobase Aichi]''<br />
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===Palisades Toys===<br />
[[Image:Pallisades laserbeak.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Laserbeak Polystone Mini Statue''' (Action Figure Xpress exclusive, 2005)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Display base<br />
:[[Palisades Toys]] produced a mini-statue of Laserbeak designed to interact with their 6" Soundwave statue release the previous year. Available exclusively through Action Figure Xpress and limited to only 750 pieces worldwide, Laserbeak could perch on Soundwave's outstretched arm, and came with his own small base to stand on so he could be displayed separately.<br />
::*''[http://www.shopafx.com/trexlast.html More information on Laserbeak at Action Figure Xpress]''<br />
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===Transformers - Wall Plaque===<br />
[[Image:Soundwave plaque.jpg|right|thumb]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (Diamond Select, 2006)<br />
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:Released by Diamond Select Toys in 2006, Soundwave was sculpted by [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1,000 pieces. He is seen emerging from the space bridge with Rumble, Laserbeak, and Ravage in tow.<br />
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===Transformers - Mini Bust===<br />
[[Image:Soundwave statue.jpg|right|thumb|An elegant but succinct summation.]]<br />
* '''Soundwave''' (Diamond Select, 2007)<br />
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: Released by [[Diamond Select Toys]] in 2007, Soundwave was sculpted by [[Mark Wong]] of [[Art Asylum]] and limited to 1,000 pieces. The sculpt features both his concussion blaster gun and shoulder cannon with Laserbeak perched on his left shoulder. His tape deck altmode is sculpted on the base of the bust.<br />
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===Attacktix===<br />
[[Image:Laserbeak-atx.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Laserbeak'''<br />
:''[[Attacktix]]'' Laserbeak is a 10-point Trooper-type piece featuring a firing missile launcher on his back. The piece's base is shaped like Soundwave's arm, where Laserbeak rests while not in use. He is attached to the arm with a string, allowing him to take flight and get better shots at enemy pieces.<br />
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:While Hasbro showed off Laserbeak at some conventions, he was ultimately never released. Most of his in-game stats and abilities are as such unknown.<br />
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===Robot Heroes===<br />
[[Image:Robotheroesprowllaserbeak.jpg|right|300px|thumb|CAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWnceled.]]<br />
*'''Prowl vs Laserbeak''' (canceled)<br />
:Seemingly captured in the middle of a wild take, this super-deformed ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' version of Laserbeak —sporting a distinctive orange beak inspired by his original [[package art]]—would have come packaged with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], but was regrettably canceled before release. This two-pack was not the only tail-end ''Robot Heroes'' set to meet this fate, but it was one of only a few to actually be advertised on the packaging of toys that ''did'' make it to the store shelf.<br />
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===G.I. Joe and the Transformers===<br />
[[Image:Sdcc2012_shockwaveaccessories-detail.jpg|thumb]]<br />
*'''Shockwave H.I.S.S. Tank with two figures & Energon''' (2012)<br />
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: An [[exclusive]] release for San Diego Comic-Con 2012, this toy is a [[redeco]] of the 2012 new-[[mold]] ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe: Retaliation]]'' [[HISS tank]] meant to represent [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. It includes the [[Cobra]]s [[Destro|James McCullen Destro XXIV]] and a [[Battle Android Trooper]] with a trolley for carrying [[Energon cube]]s.<br />
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:Destro's accessories include [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] in the form of a non-transforming tape deck and three micro-casettes capable of being placed within the Soundwave toy; red, orange, and gold cassettes that represent [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], Laserbeak, and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]. Just who is meant to be who is unclear.<br />
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==Notes==<br />
*Laserbeak had the preliminary name '''Slazer'''.<br />
*Though Laserbeak is portrayed as a normal audio cassette in the various fictions, his original toy was a microcassette. (Likewise, Soundwave's toy was a microcassette recorder, rather than the "stereo cassette deck" he's stated to be elsewhere.)<br />
[[Image:C64TransformersTitleScreen.jpg|thumb|250px|]]<br />
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]'s toy was sold with Soundwave. [[To sell toys|Consequently]], Buzzsaw had a much lower profile in the cartoon and his [[Tech Spec]] [[function]] of "spy" was open for the taking. Laserbeak was given this role, presumably because he would have more opportunity to spy than to use his own (non-kid-friendly) function of "interrogation".<br />
*Although the Laserbeak and Buzzsaw toys had a standard cassette deco on one side, the cartoon chose to show the bird side in its depictions of their alternate modes, effectively making either side accurate.<br />
*The title screen to Ocean's ''[[The Transformers (Commodore 64)|Transformers]]'' game for the Commodore 64 (see right) depicts either a Laserbeak or a Buzzsaw that is primarily red with gold wings. Get on it, [[e-HOBBY]]!<br />
*It's possible that ''Beast Wars'' [[Lazorbeak]] was intended to be a new form for Laserbeak. Lazorbeak's on-package [[bio]] reads, "Lazorbeak upholds his motto of believing the only good point he likes about the Maximals is their melting point", a reference to Laserbeak's original motto. Also, both use laser weapons which frequently run out of energy.<br />
*The [[Real Gear Robot]] [[Booster X10]] is a Laserbeak [[homage]].<br />
*According to Fun Pub's [[The Transformers Menagerie#Part 1|The Transformers Menagerie Part:1 Cassette Technology]] Laserbeak was the first [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Recordicon]] and was altered from a normal [[Cryo-Condor]] to a full [[Transformer]] capable of changing into a standard [[Datatrax wafer]].<br />
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===Foreign names===<br />
*''Japanese:'' '''Condor''' (コンドル ''Kondoru'')<br />
*''French:'' '''Vautour''' (Canada, "Vulture")<br />
*''Hebrew:'' '''Keren Laser''' (קרן לייזר, "Laser Beam")<br />
*''Hungarian:'' '''Lézercsőr'''<br />
*''Italian:'' '''Gufo''' ("Owl")<br />
*''Mandarin:'' '''Léi-shè Yīng''' (Taiwan, 雷射鷹, "Laser Hawk"), '''Léi-shè Nǐau''' (Taiwan, 雷射鳥, "Laser Bird"), '''Jīgūang Nǐao''' (China, 激光鳥, "Laser Bird")<br />
*''Portuguese:'' '''Lança-Laser''' (Portugal comics, "Lance Laser"), '''Bicolaser''' (Brazil comics, "Nozzle Laser")<br />
*''Swedish:'' '''Laserspanare''' (''More Than Meets The Eye'' parts 1-3, "Laser scout") '''Lasernäbb''' (cartoon, "Laser beak")<br />
*''Russian:'' '''Lazernik''' (Лазерник)<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Laserbeak Laserbeak's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br />
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:''Buzzsaw is a [[Decepticon]] [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Mini-Cassette]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br />
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[[File:G1BuzzsawJapaneseArt.jpg|325px|thumb|He hovers like some vast, predatory bird—if vast, predatory birds struck out in sudden, frightening death from above over and over and over, with no escape.]]<br />
'''Buzzsaw''' is a very ''specific'' kind of artist—he likes to make art out of ''his victims''. He approaches them with reasoned clarity and sophistication, gutting them with what he believes to be inspirational precision. However, his ego is easily wounded, and he's not adept at improvisation. If one of his "masterpieces" is interrupted and he cannot proceed as planned, he would rather retreat to sulk than rethink his approach.<br />
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He will kill you. It's not a matter of ''if'', but a matter of where, when, and how painful it is.<br />
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==Fiction==<br />
===Marvel Comics continuty===<br />
====Generation 1====<br />
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[[File:Buzzsawyikes2.jpg|left|120px|thumb|He shot Gears right in the face!]]<br />
Buzzsaw was among [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s attack party which ambushed the [[Autobot]]s aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], crashing on [[Earth]] 4 million years ago. When the Autobots and Decepticons were revived in [[1984]], Buzzsaw was given the [[alternate mode]] of a gold cassette tape. As Megatron gave a roll call to determine who had survived the crash, Buzzsaw noted that his beak "has carved many an Autobot warrior into a masterpiece of scrap metal." {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}} <br />
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[[File:Buzzsawlaststand.jpg|200px|thumb|Sweet Primus!]]<br />
The Decepticons soon attacked [[Harrison Nuclear Power Plant]] to use as material to build a [[Fortress Sinister|new headquarters]], and Buzzsaw was able to fly through its reinforced concrete walls as if they were paper. It was discovered that the [[human]] ally of the Autobots, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], may know of a way to convert Earth fuel into a form Transformers can use, and so Buzzsaw and the Decepticons led an attack on [[S. Witwicky Auto Repairs & Tow Service|his auto repair shop]]. Though [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] scored a direct hit on Buzzsaw, he was able to return with his fellow Decepticons to their base with Sparkplug. {{storylink|Power Play!}} The human military surrounded the Decepticons' headquarters, and Megatron ordered his warriors to "greet" them. Buzzsaw happily cut through the wings of the fighter jets while disparaging their primitive technology. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}}<br />
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''When [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] fired upon his teammate [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] for eavesdropping on his plot to overthrow Megatron, Buzzsaw and the other Decepticons sought deadly revenge on the Decepticon Air Commander.'' {{storylink|The Enemy Within!}} ''Though Starscream escaped, the Decepticons soon regrouped to attack the Ark. [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] was the first casualty of the raid, which Buzzsaw quickly reported back to Megatron, but their battle was ended prematurely when [[Aunty|Auntie]], the Ark's computer system, magnetized the walls, immobilizing both factions.'' {{storylink|Raiders of the Last Ark}} Buzzsaw also travelled with the Decepticons to the [[United Kingdom]], where he and his teammates attempted to take control of the [[Man of Iron (Autobot)|Man of Iron]]'s ship. When [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] fired upon the ship, destroying it, the Decepticons could no longer take the ship and learn from it the location of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], so they left. Notably, in the battle against the Autobot's ship, Buzzsaw's attacks were [[:Image:Arkshuttle2.jpg|visibly of greater power than his comrades...]] {{storylink|Man of Iron (issue)|Man of Iron}}<br />
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The Decepticons were successful in learning from Sparkplug Witwicky how to convert Earth fuel for themselves, and they attacked the Ark in force. The Autobots were weakened from their own lingering fuel problems, and Buzzsaw noticed that even [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had trouble hitting him with a shot from his rifle. The Decepticons were clearly the imminent victors in this lopsided battle, and as Buzzsaw tore through the head of one of the final remaining Autobots, [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], the Decepticons declared victory. ...Or, they would have, if Sparkplug hadn't poisoned their fuel, causing the Decepticons to stumble over themselves in pain. It was only the surprise arrival of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] that saved Buzzsaw and the others from certain defeat. {{storylink|The Last Stand}}<br />
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[[File:Buzzsawyikes1.jpg|250px|thumb|Holy crap!]]<br />
After Shockwave assumed command and set up shop at [[Blackrock Aerospace Assembly Plant Number One]], Buzzsaw would perch on Shockwave's shoulder and keep his unruly troops in line. {{storylink|DIS-Integrated Circuits!}} Buzzsaw, though unnamed, later accompanied Soundwave and most of the other cassette-tape Decepticons to aid their impostor Optimus Prime's ambush of the Autobots, though all of them were easily defeated once the real Optimus Prime was restored. {{storylink|Prime Time!}}<br />
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[[File:Buzzsawyikes3.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Aieee!]]<br />
Unlike the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]], Soundwave, Buzzsaw, and the other animal cassettes remained more loyal to Megatron than to Shockwave, and so when the former Decepticon leader was discovered in a coal mine, they arrived swiftly to refuel and reclaim him. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}} (Meanwhile, Buzzsaw also supported Shockwave, including his unsuccessful plot to kidnap and brainwash [[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Bumblebee]] into being a Decepticon. {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}) One of Megatron's first acts upon returning to the Decepticons was to attack the Ark while seemingly all of the Autobots were attacking the Decepticon base, and he took the Seekers and all of the cassette Decepticons (minus Ravage) with him. Unfortunately, the Ark was now defended by the newly-built [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. All of the attacking Decepticons except for Laserbeak and Megatron were obliterated. Buzzsaw's destroyed body was kept in storage within the Ark for several years. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br />
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Buzzsaw's body and the others destroyed by Omega Supreme were lifted from the Ark by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] while the rest of the Decepticons (now under leadership of [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]) ambushed the Autobots on the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]]. {{storylink|Totaled!}} <br />
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[[File:Buzzsawyikes4.jpg|250px|thumb|Run for your freakin' lives!]]<br />
Soon a civil war erupted between Ratbat's Decepticons and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s Decepticons, during which Buzzsaw brutally (and literally) disarmed [[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]]. {{storylink|Cold War!}} However, it was discovered that the civil war was instigated by Starscream to distract from his evil intentions for the [[Underbase]]. The Autobots also showed up, as part of Starscream's diversion, and the two Decepticon armies teamed up to destroy them. Just before strafing [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], Buzzsaw cannon-blasted Omega Supreme. However, he had little time to celebrate what may be the single most lop-sided takedown in Transformers history, as he was destroyed by the Underbase-powered [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] soon afterwards. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br />
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====''Regeneration One''====<br />
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[[File:Buzzsaw loose ends 2.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Oh great, now we gotta worry about ''zombie'' Buzzsaw.]]<br />
After his death during the Underbase affair, Buzzsaw's remains were among the many gathered up by the Autobots and stored aboard the Ark. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 3}} After the vessel crashed back to Earth in 1991, Megatron used the medical and scientific knowledge he gained through his mental link with [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] to re-animate Buzzsaw and the other fallen Decepticons as lobotomized [[zombie]] "Ex-Bots", with which he laid waste to the Earth over the following twenty-one years.<br />
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When the Autobot [[Wrecker]]s came to Earth to investigate in [[2012]], Buzzsaw and the other zombies were charged with tracking them down, but were led away from the main group by [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]], [[Leadfoot (G2)|Leadfoot]] and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] running interference. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 2}} [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] was subsequently captured for use as bait to lure in the other Wreckers, and Buzzsaw and his former flying partner Laserbeak took part in ambushing them, blowing big holes in [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 4}} When [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Circuit Smasher]] shut down the [[Aunty|Ark's computer]], the signal animating the zombies cut out, and they all returned to death. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}} After Megatron's defeat, all of the deactivated zombies were piled into a large pit by the Autobots and obliterated from orbit. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}}<br />
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br />
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br />
[[File:Buzzsawcityofsteel.jpg|200px|thumb|There's nowhere to hide!]]<br />
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English), ? (Japanese)<br />
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Buzzsaw first saw duty on Earth during the Decepticon plot to transform [[New York City]] into [[New Cybertron]], appearing with [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] to strafe [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] on the roof of the Constructicons' newly-constructed skyscraper. {{storylink|City of Steel}} Later, the twin cassette condors located the energy-rich underwater city of [[Sub-Atlantica]] for [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]], leading to an alliance between the Decepticons and King [[Nergill]] to conquer [[Washington, D.C.]]. Buzzsaw helped the [[Sub-Atlantica]]ns capture the Autobot [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] when he was investigating the situation. His luck didn't hold out when the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] came to occupied Washington, though: [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] outflew Buzzsaw and Laserbeak, shooting them down with air-to-air missiles. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}}<br />
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When the Decepticons teamed up with the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] to take the [[Nova Power Plant]], [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] unleashed Buzzsaw and Laserbeak on [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]. Laserbeak was quickly shot down, but Buzzsaw managed to avoid the Autobots' laser fire and flew off. Later, he lost control of his faculties when [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] used his [[cerebro-shell]]s to turn the Decepticons against Megatron, before their fearless leader could turn against them. He was presumably restored with the others when Bombshell's excess power was negated. {{storylink|The Insecticon Syndrome}} Soon thereafter, Buzzsaw took part in the Decepticons' attempt to capture the [[Negavator]], trapping Autobots inside their command bunker with a pile of rubble so [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] could steal the weapon. Eventually, however, the Autobots got free and the Decepticons were driven away. {{storylink|Auto Berserk}}<br />
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====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br />
=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====<br />
[[File:JHeadmasters02BuzzsawLaserbeak.jpg|thumb|left|Unfortunately, you're more likely to die of boredom than Buzzsaw in ''Headmasters''.]]<br />
In the year [[2011]], Buzzsaw accompanied Soundwave on his mission to search Earth for the missing [[Matrix of Leadership]], joining Laserbeak in attacking [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] when the young Autobot got in their way. When [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] intervened, a fierce battle ensued that resulted in the death of both communications officers. Buzzsaw, Laserbeak, and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] gathered Soundwave's scattered remains and took them back to the Decepticon base on [[Chaar]]. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} There, the technology of planet [[Master (planet)|Master]], courtesy of Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] commander [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], was used to rebuild Soundwave into Soundblaster, much to Buzzsaw and the others cassettes' joy. Soon after, Twincast—the similarly-rebuilt form of Blaster—and his cassettes arrived on Chaar to stop Soundblaster's remote control of the newest Decepticon weapon, the [[Madmachine]], and Buzzsaw, Laserbeak and Ratbat barred his way. [[Eject (G1)|Eject]], [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]], [[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]], and [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] kept the tapes busy while Blaster progressed on to complete his mission. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}<br />
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Later, Buzzsaw took part in a spy mission to Cybertron, which uncovered that [[Vector Sigma]] was producing a new alloy named [[cybertonuron]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Later still, after the new spy [[Punch (G1)|Counterpunch]] had joined the Decepticon ranks, Buzzsaw joined the other cassettes in grousing about how they were all being shown up by the new guy. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}}<br />
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=====''The Headmasters'' comic=====<br />
Buzzsaw and the rest of the cassettes gathered over a comically-defeated Soundblaster (at the hands of [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]]) as [[Sixshot]] announced his intent to defect from the Decepticons and travel the universe. {{storylink|The Headmasters issue 8|The Headmasters #8}}<br />
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===The Battle for Planet Earth===<br />
{{voiceactor|[[Peter Marinker]] (English)}}<br />
When [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] reported on the Autobot expedition to [[South America]], Buzzsaw was one of the Decepticons [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] took with him to investigate. They soon found [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s team, though Buzzsaw wondered why they were looking into the [[Mount Sheelah|strange hollow mountain]]. The Decepticons attacked their foe, but were forced to land on the other side of the crater, where they kept firing until the Autobots retreated. The reason for the retreat soon became clear, as the volcano erupted, trapping Buzzsaw and the other Decepticons in lava, where they remained while Laserbeak went back to base for help. {{storylink|Terror of Mount Sheelah}}<br />
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===Dreamwave ''Generation 1'' comics===<br />
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[[File:DarkAges-Buzzsaw.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Sir Not-Appearing-in-This-Story]]<br />
Buzzsaw was part of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s Decepticon faction during the [[Dark Ages]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|The Dark Ages}}<br />
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''Buzzsaw was involved with Starscream's occupation of the human city, [[Las Vegas]]. Presumably, he came in under Soundwave's direction. The Decepticons initially worked closely with the Las Vegas Police Department, with Buzzsaw and Laserbeak serving as "watchbirds" to keep an optic open for any unlawful activity in the city limits. Buzzsaw even served as a passive deterrent when necessary, divebombing a hold-up artist named [[Bernie Kalus]] before he could enter the convenience store he had targeted. {{storylink|Transformers: Hardwired|Hardwired}} Later on, after the Autobots had invaded Las Vegas, Buzzsaw tried to eliminate [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and a wounded Bumblebee, but was chased off the hunt when Optimus Prime got involved in the skirmish. When Megatron and Starscream divvyed up the Decepticon forces, Buzzsaw somehow managed to be on BOTH factions simultaneously. In the final fight with the [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]] in Las Vegas, he joined [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], Laserbeak and the Autobot flyer named [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] in performing aerial assaults on the alien beings. {{storylink|Transformers: Annihilation|Annihilation}} Several days later, Buzzsaw and the Decepticons joined the Autobots again in defending against an ambush by the American military in the Nevada desert. The Army had reverse-engineered some Cybertronian technology to create the [[deconstructionite]]s, microchip-sized projectile sprays that drained the Transformers of their processing power on contact. Buzzsaw caught heavy flak in the first salvo, and quickly found himself unable to fly. He was dragged to safety by Megatron himself, but was left incapacitated for some time thereafter. {{storylink|Transformers: Fusion|Fusion}}''<br />
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===''G.I. Joe vs the Transformers''===<br />
[[File:Decepticons art of war issue 4.jpg|thumb|200px|The Decepticons are not running ''into'' battle. They are running ''away'' from Buzzsaw.]]<br />
Buzzsaw was part of the army of Decepticons that surrounded [[Teletran 3]] while several of the building's inhabitants were thrown into various Earth historical periods. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}}<br />
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Buzzsaw was seen again on Cybertron as part of [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]]'s invading forces, assaulting an Autobot peace ceremony alongside [[Sixshot]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}} He was later part of a Decepticon force preparing to fight off a major Autobot-[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] assault. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}}<br />
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===Beast Wars continuity===<br />
====Dawn of Future's Past====<br />
[[File:Laserbeakbuzzsawdawn.jpg|left|200px|thumb|T-REX, WE PUT OUR MINDS TO IT AND TAUGHT OURSELVES ENGLISH!]]<br />
At the end of the great war, most Decepticons who were granted amnesty simply retired and vanished from public life. So too would have been the fate of Buzzsaw if not for the intervention of the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacon]] [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]]. Divebomb granted Laserbeak, Buzzsaw, and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] a new lease on life, rebuilding them into members of the new faction of Predacons.<br />
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Predacon [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s theft of the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] was closely watched by Divebomb, who sent Laserbeak and Buzzsaw to ensure Megatron and his rogues reached their destination. [[Buzzsaw and Laserbeak's ship|Their ship]] intercepted the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'', pummelling it with missiles. Before it could come back for another pass, it was fired upon by the ''[[Chromia 10]]'', giving the ''Axalon'' enough time to restore enough power to return fire and completely destroy Laserbeak and Buzzsaw's ship, with the pair inside. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}<br />
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====Recordicons====<br />
Buzzsaw was in a bar with Laserbeak when the bartender misspelled Laserbeak's name. Buzzsaw prepared himself to hear another rant. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #16|Recordicons #16}}<br />
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===<br />
[[File:MegatronOrigin2-LaserbeakBuzzsawFastback.jpg|thumb|200px|It's a birdemic! WHO WILL SURVIVE??]]<br />
Buzzsaw was seen among Soundwave's cache of cassettes on Cybertron millions of years ago. He and Laserbeak helped catch the Autobot spies [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]] when Soundwave introduced himself to [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 2|Megatron Origin #2}} He later helped devastate the [[Senate]] and free the captured Decepticons in their Trojan Horse play at [[Kaon]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}<br />
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When Soundwave was ambushed by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]] while fleeing from a failed infiltration attempt, he tried to eject Buzzsaw to aid him. Unfortunately for him, Orion smashed his torso in before he was able to. {{storylink|The Hunt for Soundwave}}<br />
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Four million years ago, Buzzsaw charged the Autobot position with Soundwave and a horde of Decepticons, in a vain attempt to keep them from interfering with an energon convoy headed for Megatron's troops. {{storylink|The Iron Age}}<br />
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[[File:UneasyLiesTheHead-Buzzsaw.jpg|left|thumb|250px|A rare maiming that Buzzsaw was not responsible for.]]<br />
During the modern-day invasion of Earth, Buzzsaw participated in the Decepticon attack on [[Beijing]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}} When the invasion failed he escaped Earth onboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], and was seen perched on Soundwave's shoulder while his master tended to their fallen leader, Megatron. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13|Uneasy Lies the Head}}<br />
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Buzzsaw was later among the Decepticons outfitted with [[inhibitor/deterrence chip]]s by the Autobots, {{storylink|The Autonomy Lesson}} Later, Buzzsaw was among a Cybertronian crowd recruited by Starscream to pressure Prowl into revealing one of his secret discoveries below ground on Cybertron. Later underground, they witnessed a [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]] declare that Starscream was the Cybertronian destined to unite their whole race. He and the other Cybertronians celebrated afterwards with Starscream. {{storylink|Primus: All Good Things}} When Megatron returned from a long absence, Buzzsaw and the rest of the Decepticons began rioting in celebration. {{storylink|The Verge}} Together with Laserbeak he herded [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Metalhawk]] into Megatron's clutches before proceeding to participate in the conquest of Cybertron. {{storylink|Before the Dawn}} When the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] joined the fight, the two bird-bots duked it out with [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]]. {{storylink|Plan for Everything}}<br />
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==Games==<br />
===Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons===<br />
When Optimus embarked on his mission to rescue the Autobots' [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] troops from the Decepticons, Buzzsaw could hinder Optimus Prime's progress, by stalling him and giving him a flat tire. {{storylink|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons packaging blurb and game}}<br />
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===''The Transformers'' (Commodore 64)===<br />
Buzzsaw was among the Decepticons who tried to prevent the Autobots from recovering the scattered pieces of their [[Energon cube]]s. Created by the power of [[Robo-Cloning]], innumerable duplicate copies of Buzzsaw bedevilled the Autobots on their quest. {{storylink|The Transformers (Commodore 64)|The Transformers}}<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
[[File:G1toy-Buzzsaw.jpg|thumb|300px|The hook at the end of his beak is so that when he punctures you, you can't just yank him out. You'll rip off a wad of flesh.]]<br />
*'''Soundwave w/ Buzzsaw''' (Decepticon Communicator, 1984/1985/1986)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons"<br />
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:Coming only with the [[Hasbro]] release of [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] (the Japanese version had [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] instead), Buzzsaw transforms from a microcassette to a robotic condor. His cassette mode can fit into the tape compartment of the Soundwave and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] toys. Unlike the other four original Mini-Cassettes, Buzzsaw's deco is unique to the Transformer line rather than originating from [[Micro Change]]. In 1985, a heat-activated [[rubsign]] was added to his cassette-mode front; unlike other toys, this did ''not'' replace his existing Decepticon [[insignia]], located on his head.<br />
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:This mold was also used to make [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], [[Garboil (G1)|Garboil]], and [[Sundor]].<br />
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::*''[http://tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Buzzsaw/buzzsaw.htm More information on Buzzsaw at TFU.info]''<br />
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[[File:G1toy vsz set.jpg|thumb|300px|"I'm not trapped in this box with you guys...you guys are trapped in this box with ME."]]<br />
*'''Sunstreaker & Skids vs Buzzsaw''' (Multi-pack, 1985)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''VSZ'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons", tape case<br />
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:Despite the Japanese cassettes being available singly in Japan, rather than in double-packs as in Hasbro markets, Buzzsaw apparently didn't warrant a solo release, and instead came in a multi-pack with [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. Like most Japanese cassettes (and all future Japanese releases of Buzzsaw), he came with a clear-plastic tape case to be "stored" in.<br />
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[[File:Buzzsawg1toycondor.jpg|300px|thumb|Fort Max's weakpoint may be his shoulder, but Buzzsaw always goes straight for the eyes.]]<br />
*'''Soundblaster w/ Buzzsaw''' (Decepticon, 1987)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-106'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons", tape case<br />
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:During ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (toyline)|Headmasters]]'', Buzzsaw saw re-release as a pack-in with Soundblaster. This version replaces the tape-spool decal with a new sticker featuring [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s weak spot, revealed through the clear-red tape-doors of the Soundblaster and [[Blaster (G1)|Twincast]] toys. Soundblaster himself is given the ID number "D-101", while Buzzsaw is separately labelled as "D-106".<br />
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===The Transformers Collection===<br />
[[File:G1toy TFC buzzsaw.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Soundblaster w/ Buzzsaw and Ravage''' (Transformers Collection, 2005)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''18'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons", tape case<br />
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:The ''Headmasters'' version of Buzzsaw was included in the Soundblaster reissue, though this time the duo also came with a similarly-sticker-altered version of [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]].<br />
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===Timelines===<br />
[[File:Buzzsawtimelinestoy.JPG|300px|thumb|Sure, it seems like an improvement, but he still has to pick everything up in his jaws.]]<br />
*'''Laserbeak and Buzzsaw''' (bagged souvenir set, 2006)<br />
**''Accessories'': Left & right energon blades, Energon star<br />
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:A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]] mold, Buzzsaw gains a humanoid mode along with his robot-falcon form. He came with a set of clear-indigo [[energon weapon]]s that could combine to form a large blade, plus an indigo [[energon star]]. He was available only in a "souvenir" 2-piece set with [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], sold at [[BotCon 2006]], and limited to 500 pieces.<br />
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::*''[http://tfu.info/2006/Predacon/BCBuzzsaw/buzzsaw.htm More information on BotCon 2006 Buzzsaw at TFU.info]''<br />
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===Universe (2008)===<br />
[[File:Universe2008toy soundwave.jpg|thumb]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (2009)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons"<br />
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:In 2009, Buzzsaw was included with yet another reissue of Soundwave as part of the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, this time as a [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] exclusive that was prominently offered at San Diego Comic-Con 2009. Included were his weapons and his own cassette case.<br />
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===Encore===<br />
[[File:G1toy encore cassettes1.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Great Cassette Operation''' (2009)<br />
**''Encore number'': '''15'''<br />
**''Accessories'': Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons", tape case<br />
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:As part of TakaraTomy's ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' [[Generation 1 reissues|Generation 1 reissue]] line, Buzzsaw was released along with [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]], [[Eject (G1)|Eject]] and [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]]. Unlike most ''Encore'' figures, he features no significant differences from his various previous releases.<br />
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===Masterpiece===<br />
[[File:MPtoy-Buzzsaw.jpg|thumb|300px|Whose bright idea was it to give this murderer more articulation??]]<br />
*'''Frenzy and Buzzsaw''' (2013)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Pink tape case<br />
: A [[repaint]] of ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], Buzzsaw transforms from a micro-cassette tape into an accurate-to-the-animation golden condor. He comes packaged with [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], even if we thought [[:Image:Buzzsawyikes1.jpg|he wouldn't hang with him anymore.]]<br />
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*'''Masterpiece Soundwave''' (2013)<br />
:Masterpiece Buzzsaw is included with the [[Hasbro]] [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] exclusive version of Masterpiece Soundwave. He features a slightly different deco. His microcassette case is included, though this time it's clear.<br />
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==Merchandise==<br />
===Mega Super Collection Figure===<br />
[[File:MegaSCF buzzsaw.jpg|thumb]]<br />
*'''Megatron Metallic Ver.''' (2002)<br />
**''ID number:'' '''03-X1'''<br />
:Exclusive to Hobby Expo 2002 and Wonderfest 2002, this PVC figurine of Buzzsaw came packaged with an exclusive metallic version of the ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Mega Super Collection Figure]]'' Megatron. It was redecoed from the Laserbeak included with the original mass-release version of Megatron.<br />
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::*''[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/resources/review/mega+scf/metallic+megatron+/2054 More information on Mega SCF Megatron and Buzzsaw at Transformers @ The Moon]''<br />
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==Notes==<br />
*Though Buzzsaw is portrayed as transforming into a normal audio cassette in the various fictions, his original toy was a ''micro''cassette. (Likewise, Soundwave's toy was a microcassette recorder, rather than the "stereo cassette deck" he's stated to be elsewhere.)<br />
*Buzzsaw's scant appearances in the original animated series come as a result of a note in the [[production bible]] that says he should only "be used occasionally". This, presumably, is due to the fact that his toy was only available packaged with Soundwave, and hence did not need to be advertised via the show. Poor little guy didn't even get an individual bio in there. (No wonder he took it out on everybody.)<br />
[[File:C64TransformersTitleScreen.jpg|thumb|250px|Even Soundwave's chest is terrified of the guy.]]<br />
*Buzzsaw could talk in the Marvel UK Comics, as well as in some episodes of the Japanese Headmasters cartoon (where he even commented on how tired he is of seeing Scourge and Cyclonus always lick Galvatron's feet modules). In all media though, he certainly possesses normal Transformer intelligence.<br />
*The title screen to Ocean's ''[[The Transformers (Commodore 64)|Transformers]]'' game for the Commodore 64 depicts either a Laserbeak or a Buzzsaw that is primarily red with gold wings. Get on it, [[e-HOBBY]]!<br />
*At BotCon 2006, the signboards advertising the Laserbeak/Buzzsaw set incorrectly identified him as "Buzzclaw". This was the only place the error appeared.<br />
*According to Fun Pub's [[The Transformers Menagerie#Part 1|The Transformers Menagerie Part:1 Cassette Technology]] Buzzsaw was part of the second group of [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Recordicons]] created along with Ravage, following the original Laserbeak. He was altered from a normal Cybertronic [[Cryo-Condor]] to a full [[Transformer]] capable of changing into a standard [[Datatrax wafer]].<br />
*Buzzsaw is ''the'' coolest cassette. Don't ''even'' bother arguing.<br />
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===Foreign names===<br />
*''Japanese:'' '''Buzzsaw''' (バズソー ''Bazusō'')<br />
*''French:'' '''Condor''' (Canada)<br />
*''Hebrew:'' '''Zamzam''' (זמזם, "Buzzer")<br />
*''Hungarian:'' '''Körfűrész'''<br />
*''Italian:'' '''Micro'''<br />
*''Portuguese:'' '''Serrote''' (Portugal comics), '''Serra''' (Brazil comics)<br />
*''Russian:'' '''Lobzik''' (Лобзик, "Fretsaw")<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Buzzsaw Buzzsaw's Transformers Universe profile]<br />
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:''Buzzsaw is a [[Decepticon]] [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Mini-Cassette]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br />
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[[File:G1BuzzsawJapaneseArt.jpg|325px|thumb|He hovers like some vast, predatory bird—if vast, predatory birds struck out in sudden, frightening death from above over and over and over, with no escape.]]<br />
'''Buzzsaw''' is a very ''specific'' kind of artist—he likes to make art out of ''his victims''. He approaches them with reasoned clarity and sophistication, gutting them with what he believes to be inspirational precision. However, his ego is easily wounded, and he's not adept at improvisation. If one of his "masterpieces" is interrupted and he cannot proceed as planned, he would rather retreat to sulk than rethink his approach.<br />
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He will kill you. It's not a matter of ''if'', but a matter of where, when, and how painful it is.<br />
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==Fiction==<br />
===Marvel Comics continuty===<br />
====Generation 1====<br />
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[[File:Buzzsawyikes2.jpg|left|120px|thumb|He shot Gears right in the face!]]<br />
Buzzsaw was among [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s attack party which ambushed the [[Autobot]]s aboard the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], crashing on [[Earth]] 4 million years ago. When the Autobots and Decepticons were revived in [[1984]], Buzzsaw was given the [[alternate mode]] of a gold cassette tape. As Megatron gave a roll call to determine who had survived the crash, Buzzsaw noted that his beak "has carved many an Autobot warrior into a masterpiece of scrap metal." {{storylink|The Transformers (issue)|The Transformers}} <br />
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[[File:Buzzsawlaststand.jpg|200px|thumb|Sweet Primus!]]<br />
The Decepticons soon attacked [[Harrison Nuclear Power Plant]] to use as material to build a [[Fortress Sinister|new headquarters]], and Buzzsaw was able to fly through its reinforced concrete walls as if they were paper. It was discovered that the [[human]] ally of the Autobots, [[Sparkplug Witwicky]], may know of a way to convert Earth fuel into a form Transformers can use, and so Buzzsaw and the Decepticons led an attack on [[S. Witwicky Auto Repairs & Tow Service|his auto repair shop]]. Though [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] scored a direct hit on Buzzsaw, he was able to return with his fellow Decepticons to their base with Sparkplug. {{storylink|Power Play!}} The human military surrounded the Decepticons' headquarters, and Megatron ordered his warriors to "greet" them. Buzzsaw happily cut through the wings of the fighter jets while disparaging their primitive technology. {{storylink|Prisoner of War!}}<br />
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''When [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] fired upon his teammate [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] for eavesdropping on his plot to overthrow Megatron, Buzzsaw and the other Decepticons sought deadly revenge on the Decepticon Air Commander.'' {{storylink|The Enemy Within!}} ''Though Starscream escaped, the Decepticons soon regrouped to attack the Ark. [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] was the first casualty of the raid, which Buzzsaw quickly reported back to Megatron, but their battle was ended prematurely when [[Aunty|Auntie]], the Ark's computer system, magnetized the walls, immobilizing both factions.'' {{storylink|Raiders of the Last Ark}} Buzzsaw also travelled with the Decepticons to the [[United Kingdom]], where he and his teammates attempted to take control of the [[Man of Iron (Autobot)|Man of Iron]]'s ship. When [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] fired upon the ship, destroying it, the Decepticons could no longer take the ship and learn from it the location of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], so they left. Notably, in the battle against the Autobot's ship, Buzzsaw's attacks were [[:Image:Arkshuttle2.jpg|visibly of greater power than his comrades...]] {{storylink|Man of Iron (issue)|Man of Iron}}<br />
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The Decepticons were successful in learning from Sparkplug Witwicky how to convert Earth fuel for themselves, and they attacked the Ark in force. The Autobots were weakened from their own lingering fuel problems, and Buzzsaw noticed that even [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] had trouble hitting him with a shot from his rifle. The Decepticons were clearly the imminent victors in this lopsided battle, and as Buzzsaw tore through the head of one of the final remaining Autobots, [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], the Decepticons declared victory. ...Or, they would have, if Sparkplug hadn't poisoned their fuel, causing the Decepticons to stumble over themselves in pain. It was only the surprise arrival of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] that saved Buzzsaw and the others from certain defeat. {{storylink|The Last Stand}}<br />
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[[File:Buzzsawyikes1.jpg|250px|thumb|Holy crap!]]<br />
After Shockwave assumed command and set up shop at [[Blackrock Aerospace Assembly Plant Number One]], Buzzsaw would perch on Shockwave's shoulder and keep his unruly troops in line. {{storylink|DIS-Integrated Circuits!}} Buzzsaw, though unnamed, later accompanied Soundwave and most of the other cassette-tape Decepticons to aid their impostor Optimus Prime's ambush of the Autobots, though all of them were easily defeated once the real Optimus Prime was restored. {{storylink|Prime Time!}}<br />
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[[File:Buzzsawyikes3.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Aieee!]]<br />
Unlike the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]], Soundwave, Buzzsaw, and the other animal cassettes remained more loyal to Megatron than to Shockwave, and so when the former Decepticon leader was discovered in a coal mine, they arrived swiftly to refuel and reclaim him. {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}} (Meanwhile, Buzzsaw also supported Shockwave, including his unsuccessful plot to kidnap and brainwash [[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Bumblebee]] into being a Decepticon. {{storylink|Plight of the Bumblebee!}}) One of Megatron's first acts upon returning to the Decepticons was to attack the Ark while seemingly all of the Autobots were attacking the Decepticon base, and he took the Seekers and all of the cassette Decepticons (minus Ravage) with him. Unfortunately, the Ark was now defended by the newly-built [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. All of the attacking Decepticons except for Laserbeak and Megatron were obliterated. Buzzsaw's destroyed body was kept in storage within the Ark for several years. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}<br />
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Buzzsaw's body and the others destroyed by Omega Supreme were lifted from the Ark by the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] while the rest of the Decepticons (now under leadership of [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]) ambushed the Autobots on the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]]. {{storylink|Totaled!}} <br />
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[[File:Buzzsawyikes4.jpg|250px|thumb|Run for your freakin' lives!]]<br />
Soon a civil war erupted between Ratbat's Decepticons and [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s Decepticons, during which Buzzsaw brutally (and literally) disarmed [[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]]. {{storylink|Cold War!}} However, it was discovered that the civil war was instigated by Starscream to distract from his evil intentions for the [[Underbase]]. The Autobots also showed up, as part of Starscream's diversion, and the two Decepticon armies teamed up to destroy them. Just before strafing [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], Buzzsaw cannon-blasted Omega Supreme. However, he had little time to celebrate what may be the single most lop-sided takedown in Transformers history, as he was destroyed by the Underbase-powered [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] soon afterwards. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br />
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====''Regeneration One''====<br />
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[[File:Buzzsaw loose ends 2.jpg|thumb|left|200px|Oh great, now we gotta worry about ''zombie'' Buzzsaw.]]<br />
After his death during the Underbase affair, Buzzsaw's remains were among the many gathered up by the Autobots and stored aboard the Ark. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 3}} After the vessel crashed back to Earth in 1991, Megatron used the medical and scientific knowledge he gained through his mental link with [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] to re-animate Buzzsaw and the other fallen Decepticons as lobotomized [[zombie]] "Ex-Bots", with which he laid waste to the Earth over the following twenty-one years.<br />
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When the Autobot [[Wrecker]]s came to Earth to investigate in [[2012]], Buzzsaw and the other zombies were charged with tracking them down, but were led away from the main group by [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]], [[Leadfoot (G2)|Leadfoot]] and [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] running interference. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 2}} [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] was subsequently captured for use as bait to lure in the other Wreckers, and Buzzsaw and his former flying partner Laserbeak took part in ambushing them, blowing big holes in [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 4}} When [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Circuit Smasher]] shut down the [[Aunty|Ark's computer]], the signal animating the zombies cut out, and they all returned to death. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}} After Megatron's defeat, all of the deactivated zombies were piled into a large pit by the Autobots and obliterated from orbit. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}}<br />
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br />
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br />
[[File:Buzzsawcityofsteel.jpg|200px|thumb|There's nowhere to hide!]]<br />
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English), ? (Japanese)<br />
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Buzzsaw first saw duty on Earth during the Decepticon plot to transform [[New York City]] into [[New Cybertron]], appearing with [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] to strafe [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] and [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] on the roof of the Constructicons' newly-constructed skyscraper. {{storylink|City of Steel}} Later, the twin cassette condors located the energy-rich underwater city of [[Sub-Atlantica]] for [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]], leading to an alliance between the Decepticons and King [[Nergill]] to conquer [[Washington, D.C.]]. Buzzsaw helped the [[Sub-Atlantica]]ns capture the Autobot [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] when he was investigating the situation. His luck didn't hold out when the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] came to occupied Washington, though: [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] outflew Buzzsaw and Laserbeak, shooting them down with air-to-air missiles. {{storylink|Atlantis, Arise!}}<br />
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When the Decepticons teamed up with the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] to take the [[Nova Power Plant]], [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] unleashed Buzzsaw and Laserbeak on [[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]. Laserbeak was quickly shot down, but Buzzsaw managed to avoid the Autobots' laser fire and flew off. Later, he lost control of his faculties when [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] used his [[cerebro-shell]]s to turn the Decepticons against Megatron, before their fearless leader could turn against them. He was presumably restored with the others when Bombshell's excess power was negated. {{storylink|The Insecticon Syndrome}} Soon thereafter, Buzzsaw took part in the Decepticons' attempt to capture the [[Negavator]], trapping Autobots inside their command bunker with a pile of rubble so [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] could steal the weapon. Eventually, however, the Autobots got free and the Decepticons were driven away. {{storylink|Auto Berserk}}<br />
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====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br />
=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====<br />
[[File:JHeadmasters02BuzzsawLaserbeak.jpg|thumb|left|Unfortunately, you're more likely to die of boredom than Buzzsaw in ''Headmasters''.]]<br />
In the year [[2011]], Buzzsaw accompanied Soundwave on his mission to search Earth for the missing [[Matrix of Leadership]], joining Laserbeak in attacking [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] when the young Autobot got in their way. When [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] intervened, a fierce battle ensued that resulted in the death of both communications officers. Buzzsaw, Laserbeak, and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] gathered Soundwave's scattered remains and took them back to the Decepticon base on [[Chaar]]. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} There, the technology of planet [[Master (planet)|Master]], courtesy of Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] commander [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], was used to rebuild Soundwave into Soundblaster, much to Buzzsaw and the others cassettes' joy. Soon after, Twincast—the similarly-rebuilt form of Blaster—and his cassettes arrived on Chaar to stop Soundblaster's remote control of the newest Decepticon weapon, the [[Madmachine]], and Buzzsaw, Laserbeak and Ratbat barred his way. [[Eject (G1)|Eject]], [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]], [[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]], and [[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]] kept the tapes busy while Blaster progressed on to complete his mission. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}}<br />
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Later, Buzzsaw took part in a spy mission to Cybertron, which uncovered that [[Vector Sigma]] was producing a new alloy named [[cybertonuron]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Later still, after the new spy [[Punch (G1)|Counterpunch]] had joined the Decepticon ranks, Buzzsaw joined the other cassettes in grousing about how they were all being shown up by the new guy. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}}<br />
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=====''The Headmasters'' comic=====<br />
Buzzsaw and the rest of the cassettes gathered over a comically-defeated Soundblaster (at the hands of [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]]) as [[Sixshot]] announced his intent to defect from the Decepticons and travel the universe. {{storylink|The Headmasters issue 8|The Headmasters #8}}<br />
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===The Battle for Planet Earth===<br />
{{voiceactor|[[Peter Marinker]] (English)}}<br />
When [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] reported on the Autobot expedition to [[South America]], Buzzsaw was one of the Decepticons [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] took with him to investigate. They soon found [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]'s team, though Buzzsaw wondered why they were looking into the [[Mount Sheelah|strange hollow mountain]]. The Decepticons attacked their foe, but were forced to land on the other side of the crater, where they kept firing until the Autobots retreated. The reason for the retreat soon became clear, as the volcano erupted, trapping Buzzsaw and the other Decepticons in lava, where they remained while Laserbeak went back to base for help. {{storylink|Terror of Mount Sheelah}}<br />
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===Dreamwave ''Generation 1'' comics===<br />
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[[File:DarkAges-Buzzsaw.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Sir Not-Appearing-in-This-Story]]<br />
Buzzsaw was part of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s Decepticon faction during the [[Dark Ages]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|The Dark Ages}}<br />
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''Buzzsaw was involved with Starscream's occupation of the human city, [[Las Vegas]]. Presumably, he came in under Soundwave's direction. The Decepticons initially worked closely with the Las Vegas Police Department, with Buzzsaw and Laserbeak serving as "watchbirds" to keep an optic open for any unlawful activity in the city limits. Buzzsaw even served as a passive deterrent when necessary, divebombing a hold-up artist named [[Bernie Kalus]] before he could enter the convenience store he had targeted. {{storylink|Transformers: Hardwired|Hardwired}} Later on, after the Autobots had invaded Las Vegas, Buzzsaw tried to eliminate [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and a wounded Bumblebee, but was chased off the hunt when Optimus Prime got involved in the skirmish. When Megatron and Starscream divvyed up the Decepticon forces, Buzzsaw somehow managed to be on BOTH factions simultaneously. In the final fight with the [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]] in Las Vegas, he joined [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], Laserbeak and the Autobot flyer named [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] in performing aerial assaults on the alien beings. {{storylink|Transformers: Annihilation|Annihilation}} Several days later, Buzzsaw and the Decepticons joined the Autobots again in defending against an ambush by the American military in the Nevada desert. The Army had reverse-engineered some Cybertronian technology to create the [[deconstructionite]]s, microchip-sized projectile sprays that drained the Transformers of their processing power on contact. Buzzsaw caught heavy flak in the first salvo, and quickly found himself unable to fly. He was dragged to safety by Megatron himself, but was left incapacitated for some time thereafter. {{storylink|Transformers: Fusion|Fusion}}''<br />
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===''G.I. Joe vs the Transformers''===<br />
[[File:Decepticons art of war issue 4.jpg|thumb|200px|The Decepticons are not running ''into'' battle. They are running ''away'' from Buzzsaw.]]<br />
Buzzsaw was part of the army of Decepticons that surrounded [[Teletran 3]] while several of the building's inhabitants were thrown into various Earth historical periods. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}}<br />
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Buzzsaw was seen again on Cybertron as part of [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]]'s invading forces, assaulting an Autobot peace ceremony alongside [[Sixshot]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}} He was later part of a Decepticon force preparing to fight off a major Autobot-[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] assault. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}}<br />
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===Beast Wars continuity===<br />
====Dawn of Future's Past====<br />
[[File:Laserbeakbuzzsawdawn.jpg|left|200px|thumb|T-REX, WE PUT OUR MINDS TO IT AND TAUGHT OURSELVES ENGLISH!]]<br />
At the end of the great war, most Decepticons who were granted amnesty simply retired and vanished from public life. So too would have been the fate of Buzzsaw if not for the intervention of the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacon]] [[Divebomb (G1)|Divebomb]]. Divebomb granted Laserbeak, Buzzsaw, and [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] a new lease on life, rebuilding them into members of the new faction of Predacons.<br />
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Predacon [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s theft of the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]] was closely watched by Divebomb, who sent Laserbeak and Buzzsaw to ensure Megatron and his rogues reached their destination. [[Buzzsaw and Laserbeak's ship|Their ship]] intercepted the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'', pummelling it with missiles. Before it could come back for another pass, it was fired upon by the ''[[Chromia 10]]'', giving the ''Axalon'' enough time to restore enough power to return fire and completely destroy Laserbeak and Buzzsaw's ship, with the pair inside. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}<br />
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====Recordicons====<br />
Buzzsaw was in a bar with Laserbeak when the bartender misspelled Laserbeak's name. Buzzsaw prepared himself to hear another rant. {{storylink|Recordicons#Recordicons #16|Recordicons #16}}<br />
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===<br />
[[File:MegatronOrigin2-LaserbeakBuzzsawFastback.jpg|thumb|200px|It's a birdemic! WHO WILL SURVIVE??]]<br />
Buzzsaw was seen among Soundwave's cache of cassettes on Cybertron millions of years ago. He and Laserbeak helped catch the Autobot spies [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]] when Soundwave introduced himself to [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 2|Megatron Origin #2}} He later helped devastate the [[Senate]] and free the captured Decepticons in their Trojan Horse play at [[Kaon]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}<br />
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When Soundwave was ambushed by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]] while fleeing from a failed infiltration attempt, he tried to eject Buzzsaw to aid him. Unfortunately for him, Orion smashed his torso in before he was able to. {{storylink|The Hunt for Soundwave}}<br />
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Four million years ago, Buzzsaw charged the Autobot position with Soundwave and a horde of Decepticons, in a vain attempt to keep them from interfering with an energon convoy headed for Megatron's troops. {{storylink|The Iron Age}}<br />
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[[File:UneasyLiesTheHead-Buzzsaw.jpg|left|thumb|250px|A rare maiming that Buzzsaw was not responsible for.]]<br />
During the modern-day invasion of Earth, Buzzsaw participated in the Decepticon attack on [[Beijing]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}} When the invasion failed he escaped Earth onboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], and was seen perched on Soundwave's shoulder while his master tended to their fallen leader, Megatron. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13|Uneasy Lies the Head}}<br />
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Buzzsaw was later among the Decepticons outfitted with [[inhibitor/deterrence chip]]s by the Autobots, {{storylink|The Autonomy Lesson}} Later, Buzzsaw was among a Cybertronian crowd recruited by Starscream to pressure Prowl into revealing one of his secret discoveries below ground on Cybertron. Later underground, they witnessed a [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]] declare that Starscream was the Cybertronian destined to unite their whole race. He and the other Cybertronians celebrated afterwards with Starscream. {{storylink|Primus: All Good Things}} When Megatron returned from a long absence, Buzzsaw and the rest of the Decepticons began rioting in celebration. {{storylink|The Verge}} Together with Laserbeak he herded [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Metalhawk]] into Megatron's clutches before proceeding to participate in the conquest of Cybertron. {{storylink|Before the Dawn}} When the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] joined the fight, the two bird-bots duked it out with [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]]. {{storylink|Plan for Everything}}<br />
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==Games==<br />
===Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons===<br />
When Optimus embarked on his mission to rescue the Autobots' [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] troops from the Decepticons, Buzzsaw could hinder Optimus Prime's progress, by stalling him and giving him a flat tire. {{storylink|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons|Adventure Game: Defeat the Decepticons packaging blurb and game}}<br />
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===''The Transformers'' (Commodore 64)===<br />
Buzzsaw was among the Decepticons who tried to prevent the Autobots from recovering the scattered pieces of their [[Energon cube]]s. Created by the power of [[Robo-Cloning]], innumerable duplicate copies of Buzzsaw bedevilled the Autobots on their quest. {{storylink|The Transformers (Commodore 64)|The Transformers}}<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
[[File:G1toy-Buzzsaw.jpg|thumb|300px|The hook at the end of his beak is so that when he punctures you, you can't just yank him out. You'll rip off a wad of flesh.]]<br />
*'''Soundwave w/ Buzzsaw''' (Decepticon Communicator, 1984/1985/1986)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons"<br />
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:Coming only with the [[Hasbro]] release of [[Soundwave (G1)/toys|Soundwave]] (the Japanese version had [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] instead), Buzzsaw transforms from a microcassette to a robotic condor. His cassette mode can fit into the tape compartment of the Soundwave and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] toys. Unlike the other four original Mini-Cassettes, Buzzsaw's deco is unique to the Transformer line rather than originating from [[Micro Change]]. In 1985, a heat-activated [[rubsign]] was added to his cassette-mode front; unlike other toys, this did ''not'' replace his existing Decepticon [[insignia]], located on his head.<br />
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:This mold was also used to make [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], [[Garboil (G1)|Garboil]], and [[Sundor]].<br />
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::*''[http://tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Buzzsaw/buzzsaw.htm More information on Buzzsaw at TFU.info]''<br />
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[[File:G1toy vsz set.jpg|thumb|300px|"I'm not trapped in this box with you guys...you guys are trapped in this box with ME."]]<br />
*'''Sunstreaker & Skids vs Buzzsaw''' (Multi-pack, 1985)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''VSZ'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons", tape case<br />
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:Despite the Japanese cassettes being available singly in Japan, rather than in double-packs as in Hasbro markets, Buzzsaw apparently didn't warrant a solo release, and instead came in a multi-pack with [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. Like most Japanese cassettes (and all future Japanese releases of Buzzsaw), he came with a clear-plastic tape case to be "stored" in.<br />
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[[File:Buzzsawg1toycondor.jpg|300px|thumb|Fort Max's weakpoint may be his shoulder, but Buzzsaw always goes straight for the eyes.]]<br />
*'''Soundblaster w/ Buzzsaw''' (Decepticon, 1987)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-106'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons", tape case<br />
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:During ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (toyline)|Headmasters]]'', Buzzsaw saw re-release as a pack-in with Soundblaster. This version replaces the tape-spool decal with a new sticker featuring [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s weak spot, revealed through the clear-red tape-doors of the Soundblaster and [[Blaster (G1)|Twincast]] toys. Soundblaster himself is given the ID number "D-101", while Buzzsaw is separately labelled as "D-106".<br />
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===The Transformers Collection===<br />
[[File:G1toy TFC buzzsaw.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Soundblaster w/ Buzzsaw and Ravage''' (Transformers Collection, 2005)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''18'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons", tape case<br />
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:The ''Headmasters'' version of Buzzsaw was included in the Soundblaster reissue, though this time the duo also came with a similarly-sticker-altered version of [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]].<br />
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===Timelines===<br />
[[File:Buzzsawtimelinestoy.JPG|300px|thumb|Sure, it seems like an improvement, but he still has to pick everything up in his jaws.]]<br />
*'''Laserbeak and Buzzsaw''' (bagged souvenir set, 2006)<br />
**''Accessories'': Left & right energon blades, Energon star<br />
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:A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]] mold, Buzzsaw gains a humanoid mode along with his robot-falcon form. He came with a set of clear-indigo [[energon weapon]]s that could combine to form a large blade, plus an indigo [[energon star]]. He was available only in a "souvenir" 2-piece set with [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], sold at [[BotCon 2006]], and limited to 500 pieces.<br />
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::*''[http://tfu.info/2006/Predacon/BCBuzzsaw/buzzsaw.htm More information on BotCon 2006 Buzzsaw at TFU.info]''<br />
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===Universe (2008)===<br />
[[File:Universe2008toy soundwave.jpg|thumb]]<br />
*'''Soundwave''' (2009)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons"<br />
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:In 2009, Buzzsaw was included with yet another reissue of Soundwave as part of the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, this time as a [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] exclusive that was prominently offered at San Diego Comic-Con 2009. Included were his weapons and his own cassette case.<br />
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===Encore===<br />
[[File:G1toy encore cassettes1.jpg|thumb|300px]]<br />
*'''Great Cassette Operation''' (2009)<br />
**''Encore number'': '''15'''<br />
**''Accessories'': Left & right "Twin Mortar Cannons", tape case<br />
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:As part of TakaraTomy's ''[[Transformers Encore|Encore]]'' [[Generation 1 reissues|Generation 1 reissue]] line, Buzzsaw was released along with [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]], [[Eject (G1)|Eject]] and [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]]. Unlike most ''Encore'' figures, he features no significant differences from his various previous releases.<br />
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===Masterpiece===<br />
[[File:MPtoy-Buzzsaw.jpg|thumb|300px|Whose bright idea was it to give this murderer more articulation??]]<br />
*'''Frenzy and Buzzsaw''' (2013)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Pink tape case<br />
: A [[repaint]] of ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], Buzzsaw transforms from a micro-cassette tape into an accurate-to-the-animation golden condor. He comes packaged with [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], even if we thought [[:Image:Buzzsawyikes1.jpg|he wouldn't hang with him anymore.]]<br />
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*'''Masterpiece Soundwave''' (2013)<br />
:Masterpiece Buzzsaw is included with the [[Hasbro]] [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] exclusive version of Masterpiece Soundwave. He features a slightly different deco. His microcassette case is included.<br />
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==Merchandise==<br />
===Mega Super Collection Figure===<br />
[[File:MegaSCF buzzsaw.jpg|thumb]]<br />
*'''Megatron Metallic Ver.''' (2002)<br />
**''ID number:'' '''03-X1'''<br />
:Exclusive to Hobby Expo 2002 and Wonderfest 2002, this PVC figurine of Buzzsaw came packaged with an exclusive metallic version of the ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Mega Super Collection Figure]]'' Megatron. It was redecoed from the Laserbeak included with the original mass-release version of Megatron.<br />
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::*''[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/resources/review/mega+scf/metallic+megatron+/2054 More information on Mega SCF Megatron and Buzzsaw at Transformers @ The Moon]''<br />
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==Notes==<br />
*Though Buzzsaw is portrayed as transforming into a normal audio cassette in the various fictions, his original toy was a ''micro''cassette. (Likewise, Soundwave's toy was a microcassette recorder, rather than the "stereo cassette deck" he's stated to be elsewhere.)<br />
*Buzzsaw's scant appearances in the original animated series come as a result of a note in the [[production bible]] that says he should only "be used occasionally". This, presumably, is due to the fact that his toy was only available packaged with Soundwave, and hence did not need to be advertised via the show. Poor little guy didn't even get an individual bio in there. (No wonder he took it out on everybody.)<br />
[[File:C64TransformersTitleScreen.jpg|thumb|250px|Even Soundwave's chest is terrified of the guy.]]<br />
*Buzzsaw could talk in the Marvel UK Comics, as well as in some episodes of the Japanese Headmasters cartoon (where he even commented on how tired he is of seeing Scourge and Cyclonus always lick Galvatron's feet modules). In all media though, he certainly possesses normal Transformer intelligence.<br />
*The title screen to Ocean's ''[[The Transformers (Commodore 64)|Transformers]]'' game for the Commodore 64 depicts either a Laserbeak or a Buzzsaw that is primarily red with gold wings. Get on it, [[e-HOBBY]]!<br />
*At BotCon 2006, the signboards advertising the Laserbeak/Buzzsaw set incorrectly identified him as "Buzzclaw". This was the only place the error appeared.<br />
*According to Fun Pub's [[The Transformers Menagerie#Part 1|The Transformers Menagerie Part:1 Cassette Technology]] Buzzsaw was part of the second group of [[Decepticon Mini-Cassette|Recordicons]] created along with Ravage, following the original Laserbeak. He was altered from a normal Cybertronic [[Cryo-Condor]] to a full [[Transformer]] capable of changing into a standard [[Datatrax wafer]].<br />
*Buzzsaw is ''the'' coolest cassette. Don't ''even'' bother arguing.<br />
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===Foreign names===<br />
*''Japanese:'' '''Buzzsaw''' (バズソー ''Bazusō'')<br />
*''French:'' '''Condor''' (Canada)<br />
*''Hebrew:'' '''Zamzam''' (זמזם, "Buzzer")<br />
*''Hungarian:'' '''Körfűrész'''<br />
*''Italian:'' '''Micro'''<br />
*''Portuguese:'' '''Serrote''' (Portugal comics), '''Serra''' (Brazil comics)<br />
*''Russian:'' '''Lobzik''' (Лобзик, "Fretsaw")<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Buzzsaw Buzzsaw's Transformers Universe profile]<br />
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:''Slicer is a [[Decepticon]] [[Action Master]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''<br />
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[[Image:G1Slicer-packagingart.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Préparez-vous à être tranché ! Oh-hoh-hoh-hoh-hoh !]]<br />
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'''Slicer''' only knows one thing: attack. This single-mindness has even led to difficulty in relating to his fellow Decepticons; the ever-lasting desire to attack forces Slicer to be cruel and unjust to all. On top of this, Slicer has a very short temper.<br />
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Now, with his transforming [[Action Master Exo-suit|Exo-suit]], Slicer is usually in the front lines, tearing through Autobots with his anger and destruction.<br />
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He is also known as '''Slice'''.<br />
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==Fiction==<br />
===''Wings Universe''===<br />
[[Image:Timelines5-WheeljackSlicer.jpg|left|170px|thumb|Oh fine, [[Fun Publications]], make sure everyone wants two of the one-per-attendee toy! Thanks!]]<br />
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Following the Rebirth, Slicer followed [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] to [[Earth]], where he landed in [[Toulon]], [[France]]. Due to a malfunction with his [[Neuro-Centre Control Unit]], his vocal processor got stuck with the local accent. Soon he fell in with [[Clench (G1)|Clench]]'s [[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|second generation]] of Decepticons, and in 2010, he helped Clench invade the [[Large Hadron Collider]] in [[Switzerland]]. The leader of the Autobot opposition, [[Pyro (G1)|Pyro]], was captured and brought inside, while Slicer, [[Double Punch]], and a team of [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]]s waited outside. <br />
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However, Slicer was temporarily downed when the Decepticons were attacked by Autobot reinforcements. Slicer recovered soon enough and joined the battle. The rest of Clench's troops emerged from the Large Hadron Collider having completed their primary objective, unlocking special powers within themselves using [[forestonite]]. But unfortunately, some of the Autobots also gained special powers, and once [[Sky-Byte (G2)|Sky-Byte]] left with his Sharkticons, Clench was forced to call for a retreat. Along with his Decepticon peers, Slicer fled with a parcel of [[Forestonite]]. Safely away, he made rendezvous with... ''himself''... just outside Rennes, France. Having been contacted earlier, Slicer handed over the Forestonite to [[Wheeljack (SG)|his future self]] to aid in the conquest of the year [[5000]]. In exchange, he was granted the Autobot battle plans for the next seven centuries, with a warning not to alter the timeline too much. He discovered far too late that his mysterious future self had instead bestowed upon him a copy of ''[[Ninja Gladiator]]'' for the [[Magnographix 16]], thus showing he had been swindled. {{storylink|Generation 2: Redux}}<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
[[Image:G1 Slicer toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|He can shoot, run over, stomp and hack into pulp anyone who dares to ask why slicing isn't among the options.]]<br />
*'''Slicer''' (Action Master, 1991)<br />
**''Accessories:'' 2 cannons, 2 blades<br />
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:A [[redeco]] of Action Master [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#ActionMaster|Wheeljack]], Slicer is a non-transforming action figure that is compatible with all other Action Master vehicles and weapons. He comes with a 4WD Assault Vehicle that can transform into an armoured [[Action Master Exo-suit|Exo-suit]]. Slicer was only available in [[Generation 1 (European toyline)|European markets]].<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1991/Decepticon/Slicer/slicer.htm More information on Slicer at TFU.info]''<br />
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===Timelines===<br />
[[Image:Timelinestoy-BC2010Slice.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Baguette not included.]]<br />
*'''Generation 2: Redux''' (BotCon 2010 attendee freebie)<br />
**''Accessories'': Hyper-carbine shotgun, neutronic exhaust gun, missile, spoiler<br />
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: A [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Downshift (Energon)#toys|Downshift]], "Decepticon Slice" transforms into blue rally-deco sports car resembling a Mercedes Benz SLK R170 with red and black stripes. He has a pair of dark red clear-plastic guns: one a spring-loaded missile launcher, one non-firing. These can be hand-held or attached to Slice in various ways in both modes, including on his removable spoiler. He can also form the top or bottom half of any silver or bronze "[[Powerlinx]]" combiner. He was given free to [[BotCon 2010]] Primus Package attendees.<br />
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: The polybag packaging for this toy is labeled "Slicer," but the profile card says "Decepticon Slice." <br />
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: This toy was also redecoed as ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Downshift. The Autobot symbol sculpted into his collarbone is painted purple so that he can be [[repurposing|repurposed]] as ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]].<br />
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::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/BCSlice/slice.htm More information on Decepticon Slice at TFU.info]''<br />
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==Notes==<br />
* Slicer is the basis for the evil ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]]'s colors, and by extension, Dark Energon [[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]]. <br />
* Slicer's ''Timelines'' form's quote is an homage to the French taunter from ''[[Wikipedia:Monty Python and the Holy Grail|Monty Python and the Holy Grail]]'', but with the word "taunt" replaced with "crush".<br />
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<div>When on [[Earth]], a [[Transformer]] typically finds a wide variety of [[human]] vehicles matching their general body plan and size available to adopt as a disguise mode. Although there are many thousands of options available, certain specific models of vehicle, however, are very popular disguises, seeing repeated use across multiple individuals and [[Continuity|continuities]].<br />
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'''TFWiki.net: The Transformers Wiki''' has certain requirements for a vehicle model to be listed here. There must be at least '''three unique toy molds''' (or in-fiction appearances, in the case of non-toy bodies/characters) that share the model. There must also be at least '''one unique character per mold'''. Certain models are "lumped" together, such as the case for the Mazda RX car series, which includes the RX-7 and RX-8 types. This also, of course, takes into account the various fudging of the designs that are done in order to get a robot mode out of the toy, as well as avoid having to pay a licensing fee to the actual manufacturers (in most instances).<br />
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Each mold is listed on its own line, with all different-character decoes/[[Retool|retools]] on the same line. The list is organized in chronological order of toy release.<br />
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This policy is in place mainly due to the rampant use of redecoes as new characters, and is a little out of line with the phenomenon being explored... after all, isn't it kinda weird that out of all the myriad types of fighter jet there are in the world, that the Dassault Rafale in particular seems to pop up so often across soooooo many jet-form toy-characters?<br />
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:''See also'': [[Popular beast alternate modes]], [[Non-vehicle non-beast alternate modes]], [[Licensed vehicle alternate modes]], [[General Motors]]<br />
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==Cars and trucks==<br />
===Chevrolet Camaro===<br />
[[Image:Movie Deluxe 1974 Bumblebee JPtoy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Why couldn't I be an '85 Camaro?"]]<br />
* [[Windbreaker]] - Z28 (third generation)<br />
* [[Side Swipe (RID)|''RID'' Side Swipe]] / [[Bluestreak (G1)|G1 Bluestreak (''Universe'')]] - fourth generation<br />
* [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Movie Bumblebee]] / [[Cliffjumper (Movie)|Movie Cliffjumper]] - 1976 (second generation) <br />
* Movie Bumblebee / Movie Cliffjumper - 2009 (fifth generation)<br />
* ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' (2010) [[Windcharger (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Windcharger]] / ''[[Transformers United]]'' [[Wipe-Out]] (cross between fifth generation Camaro and fifth generation Ford Mustang)<br />
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===Chevrolet Corvette===<br />
[[Image:Alternator Swerve Toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Not-So-Little Red Corvette]]<br />
* [[Tracks (G1)|G1 Tracks]] / [[Road Rage (G1)|G1 Road Rage]] - C3<br />
* [[Freeway (G1)|G1 Freeway]] - C4<br />
* [[Motorhead (Decepticon)|Motorhead]] - C4<br />
* [[Skram (G2)|G1 Skram]] - C3 hot rod<br />
* Tracks (''[[Transformers: Alternators| Alternators]]'') / [[Ravage (G1)|G1 Ravage (first ''Alternators'' body)]] / [[Swerve (G1)|G1 Swerve (''Alternators'')]] - C5 Z06<br />
* ''Movie'' [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] / ''Movie'' [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]] / [[Darksteel]] - 50th Anniversary Stingray Concept <br />
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===Chevrolet Impala===<br />
* [[Impala]] - ninth generation<br />
* [[Leadfoot_(DOTM)|DOTM Leadfoot]] - NASCAR Sprint Cup<br />
* [[Roadbuster_(DOTM)|DOTM Roadbuster]] - NASCAR Sprint Cup<br />
* [[Topspin_(DOTM)|DOTM Topspin]] - NASCAR Sprint Cup<br />
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===Corvette Indy===<br />
[[Image:G1-toy Detour.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Not a bad run of toys for a car that never actually got produced.]]<br />
* [[Detour (G1)|G1 Detour]] / [[Deadhour]]<br />
* [[Speeder]]<br />
* [[Drench (G1)|G1 Drench]]<br />
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===Desert racing buggy===<br />
[[Image:G1-toy_RollerForce.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br />
{{note|"Desert racing buggy" is an admittedly vague grouping, as vehicles of this stripe are made by a variety of manufacturers and further modified by their owners in various idiosyncratic ways, but these examples all follow a relatively uniform shape.}}<br />
* [[Joyride (G1)|Joyride]] / [[Ranger]]<br />
* [[Fizzle]] / [[Wildspark]] / [[Blaze]]<br />
* [[Ruckus (G1)|Ruckus]]<br />
* [[Blacker]] / [[Gripper (G1)|Gripper]]<br />
* [[Jallguar]] / [[Rescue Force 2]]<br />
* [[Roller Force]]<br />
* [[Aquafend]] / [[Jetstorm (G2)|''G2'' Jetstorm]]<br />
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===Dodge Viper (Chrysler)===<br />
[[Image:Alternators DeadEnd toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|[[Dead End (ROTF)|This seems familar.]]]]<br />
* [[Side Burn (RID)|''RID'' Side Burn]] / [[Roulette (Universe)|Roulette]] / [[Shadow Striker (Universe)|''Universe'' Shadow Striker]]<br />
* ''RID'' Side Burn ([[Spy Changer]]) / [[Jazz (G1)|G1 Jazz (''Universe'')]]<br />
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|G1 Sideswipe (''Alternators'')]] / [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End (''Alternators'')]] / [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker (''Alternators'')]]<br />
* [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] ([[IDW Publishing|IDW]] comic -Ations series, non-toy appearance)<br />
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===Ford Mustang===<br />
[[Image:AlternatorsGrimlock_toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Me Grimlock no horsey, me Grimlock king!"]]<br />
* [[Natron]]/[[Freezon]] - third generation<br />
* [[Trip-Up]] - First Generation (1960s hot rod)<br />
* [[Grimlock (G1)|G1 Grimlock (''Alternators'')]] / [[Wheeljack (G1)|G1 Wheeljack (''Alternators'')]] - fifth generation (2005)<br />
* [[Barricade (Movie)|Movie Barricade]] - fifth generation (Saleen S281)<br />
* ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' (2010) [[Windcharger (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Windcharger]] / ''[[Transformers United]]'' [[Wipe-Out]] (cross between fifth generation Mustang and fifth generation Chevrolet Camaro)<br />
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===Funny Car===<br />
[[Image:G1-toy_Sizzle.jpg|right|200px|thumb|SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAAAAAAAY!]]<br />
{{note|The term is used here specifically to represent various [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funny_Car NHRA-style] funny cars, distinguishable by their elongated noses, forward-mounted engines, and large rear wheels. Minor details may vary from toy to toy, but all represent a functionally identical style of vehicle.}}<br />
* [[Sizzle (G1)|Sizzle]] / [[Hotspark]]<br />
* [[Ground Hog]]<br />
* [[Meanstreak]]<br />
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===Lamborghini Countach===<br />
[[Image:G1Clampdown_toy.jpg|thumb|250px|Clamp Down loves messing with Red Alert's head.]]<br />
* [[Sideswipe (G1)|G1 Sideswipe]] / [[Red Alert (G1)|G1 Red Alert]] / [[Clamp Down]] / [[Deep Cover]] / [[Tigertrack]] - LP500S<br />
* [[Sunstreaker (G1)|G1 Sunstreaker]] - LP500S<br />
* [[Breakdown (G1)|G1 Breakdown]] - LP500S<br />
* [[Free Wheeler]] / [[Deadwheeler]] - LP500 Quattrovalvole<br />
* [[Laster]] / [[Flame (Motorvator)|Motorvator Flame]] - 25th Anniversary<br />
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===Lamborghini Diablo===<br />
[[Image:G2toy_gobot_prime.jpg|right|thumb|200px|One of Optimus Prime's lesser-known forms.]]<br />
* [[Neo-Wheel]] / [[Hot Spot (Universe)|''Universe'' Hot Spot]]<br />
* [[Firecracker]] / [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|G1 Optimus Prime (Go-Bot)]] / [[Sideswipe (G1)|G1 Sideswipe (Go-Bot)]] / [[R.E.V.]]<br />
* [[Flash (G1)|Flash]] / [[Spin Road]]<br />
* [[Prowl (RID)|''RID'' Prowl]] / [[Inferno (BW)|''Universe'' Inferno]] / [[Sideswipe (G1)|G1 Sideswipe (''Universe'')]] / [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker (''Universe'')]]<br />
* [[Sparkplug (Armada)|''Armada'' Sparkplug]] / [[Drop-Test]] / [[Atlas]]<br />
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===Le Mans racer===<br />
[[Image:RID-toy Daytonus.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Daytonus]]<br />
* [[Backstreet (G1)|Backstreet]]<br />
* [[Tailspin]]<br />
* [[Deluge (G1)|Deluge]] / [[Drench (G2)|Drench]]<br />
* [[Daytonus]] / [[Wheeljack (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)|''Universe'' Wheeljack]]<br />
* [[Downshift (Armada)|''Armada'' Downshift]] / [[Tailslide]]<br />
* [[Six-Speed]] / [[Hydroplane|Platinum Element]] / [[Socket]] / [[Guardian Speed]] / [[Brake-Neck]]<br />
* [[Rallybot|Race Car Drone]] / [[Schnell Drone]]<br />
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===Mazda RX===<br />
[[Image:AlternatorsShockblast toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Eliminating the RX-8 was illogical."]]<br />
* [[Camshaft (G1)|Camshaft]] - RX-7SA22C<br />
* [[Getaway]] / [[Lightfoot]] - RX-7FC3S<br />
* [[Siren]] / [[Shūta Gō|Goshooter]] - RX-7FC3S<br />
* [[Jazz (G1)|G1 Jazz (''Alternators'')]] / [[Zoom-Zoom]] / [[Shockwave (G1)|G1 Shockwave (''Alternators'')]] / [[Autorooper]] - RX-8<br />
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===Nissan Fairlady Z===<br />
[[Image:alternitytoy blue megatron.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"DO NOT CALL ME [[Drift (G1) |DRIFT]]. DO AS I COMMAND!"]]<br />
* [[Bluestreak (G1)|G1 Bluestreak]] / [[Prowl (G1)| G1 Prowl]] / [[Smokescreen (G1) |G1 Smokescreen]]- 280ZX Turbo<br />
* [[Streetwise (G1)|G1 Streetwise]] / [[Streetstar]] - Z31 300ZX Turbo <br />
* [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak (''Universe'')]] / [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl (''Universe'')]] / [[Rapido|Rapido (''Timelines'')]] / [[Smokescreen (G1) |Smokescreen (''Universe'')]] / [[Streetwise (G1)| Streetwise (''Timelines'')]] - 350Z<br />
* [[Megatron (G1)|G1 Megatron (''Alternity'')]] - 370Z<br />
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===Pontiac Firebird Trans Am===<br />
[[Image:G1Windcharger toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Now all he needs are some underbody neon lights and spinning rims.]]<br />
* [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] / [[Camaro]] / [[Tailgate (G1)|G1 Tailgate]] / [[Rook (Universe)|''Universe'' Rook]] - third generation<br />
* [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] - third generation<br />
* [[Roadhandler (G1)|Roadhandler]] / [[Gunrunner (Zone)|Gunrunner]] - third generation<br />
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===Porsche 928S===<br />
* [[Mini-spy]] Porsche<br />
* [[Dead End (G1)|G1 Dead End]]<br />
* [[Sonic (Zone)|Sonic]]<br />
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===Porsche 959===<br />
* [[Nightbeat (G1)|G1 Nightbeat]] / [[Minerva (Masterforce)|''Masterforce'' Minerva]]<br />
* [[Skystalker (G1)|Skystalker]] / [[Rabbicrater]] / [[Metrobomb]]<br />
* [[Blowout]] / [[Megatron (G1)|G1 Megatron (Go-Bot)]] / [[Frenzy (G1)|G1 Frenzy (Go-Bot)]] / [[Hot Shot (RID)|''RID'' Hot Shot]]<br />
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===Porsche 962===<br />
* [[Backstreet (G1)|Backstreet]]<br />
* [[Tailspin]]<br />
* [[Daytonus]] / [[Wheeljack (G1)|G1 Wheeljack (''Universe'')]]<br />
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===Volkswagen Beetle===<br />
[[Image:G1-toy BugBite-ehobby.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Bumblebee was supposed to be in this picture, but I stuffed him in a locker."]]<br />
* [[Bumblebee_(G1)/toys#Generation 1|G1 Bumblebee]] / [[Volks (G1)|G1 Volks]] / [[Glyph (G1)|G1 Glyph]] / [[Bug Bite (G1)|G1 Bug Bite]]<br />
* [[Goldbug (IDW)|Goldbug]]<br />
* [[Donald Duck]]<br />
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==Military vehicles==<br />
===M1 Abrams===<br />
[[Image:TFU08-toy Treadshot.jpg|thumb|right|250px|A single blue line - the new camouflage.]]<br />
* [[Brawl (Movie)|Movie Brawl/Devastator]] / [[Tankor (ROTF)|ROTF Tankor]] - heavily modified "stealth tank"<br />
* [[Giga|Gigatank]] ([[Overlord (Masterforce)|component of ''Masterforce'' Overlord]])<br />
* [[Megatron (G1)|G2 Megatron]] / [[Megastorm]]<br />
* [[Megatron (G1)|G1 Megatron]] (Hero) / [[Archforce]] / [[Bludgeon (RID)|''RID'' Bludgeon]] / [[Reverse Convoy]] (modified)<br />
* [[Broadside (Classics)|''Classics'' Broadside]] / [[Heavytread (Universe)|Heavytread]] / [[Treadshot (Universe 2008)|''Universe'' Treadshot]]<br />
* [[Guzzle (DOTM)|DOTM Guzzle]]<br />
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===A-10 Thunderbolt II===<br />
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* [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] / [[Bad Boy]]<br />
* [[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]] / [[Windrim]] / [[Hot House]]<br />
* [[Sky Shadow (Energon)|''Energon'' Sky Shadow]] / [[Terradive (Energon)|''Energon'' Terradive]] / [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|''Cybertron'' Skyfall]] / [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|''Universe'' Skydive]] / [[Fireflight (G1)|''Universe'' Fireflight]]<br />
* [[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber (''Cybertron'')]] / [[Wingblade]]<br />
* [[Steel Wind]] / [[Skyglide]] / [[Skyhammer (Universe)|''Universe'' Skyhammer]] / [[Sky Shadow (Universe)|''Universe'' Sky Shadow]]<br />
* [[Storm Cloud]] (''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'')<br />
* [[Thor]]<br />
* [[Powerglide (DOTM)|Powerglide]] (''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]]'')<br />
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{{note|In the [[Devil's Due Press|Devil's Due]] [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers]] comic series, [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], and an unidentifed "conehead" transform into [[Cobra]] [[Rattler]]s, which are heavily-modified versions of the A-10.}}<br />
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===AH-64 Apache copter===<br />
[[Image:Universe cloudraker vehicle.jpg|right|250px|thumb|The copter from the cover of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strike_series Nuclear Strike].]]<br />
* [[Battletrap]] (upper half)<br />
* [[Spinister (G1)|G1 Spinister]]<br />
* [[Tracer (G1 Decepticon)|Decepticon Tracer]] / [[Tracer (ROC)|''Return of Convoy'' Tracer]]<br />
* [[Chain Gun]] / [[Ro-Tor (Universe)|''Universe'' Ro-Tor]]<br />
* [[Powerdive]]<br />
* [[Bulkhead (Energon)|''Energon'' Bulkhead]] / [[Quickstrike (Energon)|''Energon'' Quickstrike]]<br />
* [[Blackout (combiner)|''Energon'' Blackout]] / [[Stormcloud (Energon)|''Energon'' Stormcloud]]<br />
* [[Divebomb (Classics)|''Classics'' Divebomb]] / [[Torque Gain]] / [[Cloudraker (Universe)|''Universe'' Cloudraker]] / [[Vortex (G1)|''Henkei!'' Vortex]] / [[Crosshairs (Universe)|''Universe'' Crosshairs]] - AH-64D version<br />
* [[Shockwave (Movie)|Movie Game Shockwave]]<br />
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===B-1B Lancer===<br />
* [[Windsweeper]]<br />
* [[Blackout (G1)|G1 Blackout]] & [[Spaceshot]] (the two robots combine to form a single vehicle)<br />
* [[Missile Run]] / [[Air Raid (Universe 2003)|''Universe'' Air Raid]]<br />
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===Dassault Rafale===<br />
* [[Storm Cloud]] / [[Skyhopper]]<br />
* [[Hellbat (Victory)|''Victory'' Hellbat]]<br />
* [[Skywarp (G1)|G1 Skywarp (''Machine Wars'')]] / [[Thundercracker (G1)|G1 Thundercracker (''Machine Wars'')]] / [[Dirge (BWII)|''BWII'' Dirge]] / [[Skyfire (RID)|''RID'' Skyfire]] / [[Wingstun]] / [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator (''Timelines'')]]<br />
* [[Ramjet (Armada)|''Armada'' Ramjet]]<br />
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===F-4 Phantom===<br />
* [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]]<br />
* [[Flattop (Decepticon)|Flattop]]<br />
* [[Flywheels]] (Half of him anyway.)<br />
* [[Powerflash]] ([[Mold]] [[Kibble|details]] suggest that this was his [[Alternate mode|altmode]] before becoming an [[Action Master]].)<br />
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===F-14 Tomcat===<br />
[[Image:Universe boltflash vehicle.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Talk to me, Goose."]]<br />
* [[Leozack]] / [[Rescue Force (individual)|Rescue Force]]<br />
* [[Nightflight (G1)]] / [[Airwave]] / [[Nightflight (Zone)]] / [[Overair]]<br />
* [[Thunderwing (Classics)|''Classics'' Thunderwing]] / [[Nightscream (Cybertron)|''Cybertron'' Nightscream]] / [[Noise Effect]] / [[Boltflash]] / [[Slingshot (G1)|''Henkei! Henkei!'' Slingshot]]<br />
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===F-15 Eagle===<br />
* [[Starscream (G1)|G1 Starscream]] / [[Skywarp (G1)|G1 Skywarp]] / [[Thundercracker (G1)|G1 Thundercracker]] / [[Sunstorm (G1)|G1 Sunstorm]] / [[Ramjet (G1)|G1 Ramjet]] (heavily modified with design elements from an F-16XL) / [[Dirge (G1)|G1 Dirge]] (modified) / [[Thrust (G1)|G1 Thrust]] (modified with VTOL fans in wings)<br />
* [[Air Raid (G1)|G1 & G2 Air Raid]]<br />
* [[Talon]] / [[Moon Jet]]<br />
* [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] / [[Thundercracker (SG)|Shattered Glass Thundercracker]]<br />
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===F-16 Fighting Falcon===<br />
* [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|G1 Skydive]]<br />
* [[Dreadwind (G1)|G1 Dreadwind]] / [[Buster (Masterforce)|Buster]]<br />
* [[Needlenose]] - F-16XL<br />
* [[Falcon (OC)|Micromaster Falcon]] / [[Silverbolt (Universe)|Micromaster Silverbolt]]<br />
* [[Windrazor (G2)|Windrazor]]<br />
* [[Aerialbot Scout 1|ROTF Aerialbot Scout 1]] / [[Aerialbot Scout 2|ROTF Aerialbot Scout 2]] ([[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|video game]] only)<br />
* [[Starscream (Prime)|''Prime'' Starscream]]<br />
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===F-22 Raptor===<br />
[[Image:KMartROTFNebularStarscream.jpg|thumb|300px|Starscream flies under a giant blacklight.]]<br />
* [[Fearswoop (G1)|G1 Fearswoop]] - YF-22 prototype<br />
* [[Hooligan (G2)|G2 Hooligan]] / [[Jetfire (G1)|G1 Jetfire (Cyberjet)]] / [[R-Blade]] / [[Wind Sheer (Universe)|''Universe'' Wind Sheer]] / [[Ricochet (Timelines)|''Timelines'' Ricochet]] - Navalized ATF<br />
* [[Megatron (G1)|G1 Megatron (''Machine Wars'')]] / [[Megaplex]] / [[Thrust (BWII)|''BWII'' Thrust]] / [[Wind Sheer (RID)|''RID'' Wind Sheer]] / [[Air Hunter]]<br />
* [[Skywarp (G1)|G1 Skywarp]] / [[Starscream (G1)|G1 Starscream]] / [[Thundercracker (G1)|G1 Thundercracker]] (IDW continuity -Ations series, non-toy appearances)<br />
* [[Starscream (Movie)|Movie Starscream]] / [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Movie Thundercracker]] / [[Skydive (Movie)|Movie Skydive]] (non-toy appearance) / [[Ramjet (Movie)|Movie Ramjet]] / [[Skywarp (ROTF)|Movie Skywarp]]<br />
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{{-}}<br />
<br />
===F-35 Lightning II===<br />
*[[Thrust (Armada)]] / [[Sunstorm (Universe)|''Universe'' Sunstorm]]<br />
*[[Breakaway (ROTF)]] / [[Thrust (ROTF)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Thrust]] / [[Air Raid (Movie)|''Dark of the Moon'' Air Raid]].<br />
*[[Skyquake (Prime)]]<br />
<br />
===F-117A Nighthawk===<br />
[[Image:DeltaSeeker-toy.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Invisible to colorblind radar.]]<br />
* [[Falcon (G1)|Predator Falcon]] / [[Shadow Jet]]<br />
* [[Skyjack]] / [[Air Raid (G1)|G1 Air Raid (Cyberjet/''Universe'')]] / [[Aero Raid]] / [[Delta Seeker]]<br />
* [[Wind Sheer (Armada)|''Armada'' Wind Sheer]] / [[Whisper (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' Whisper]]<br />
* [[Mindwipe (ROTF)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Mindwipe]] / [[Dreadwing (G2)|G2 Dreadwing]] / [[Strafe (TF 2010)|2010 ''Transformers'' Strafe]]<br />
<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
===V-22 Osprey===<br />
[[Image:ROTF-toy SpringerLegend.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]<br />
* [[Makeshift (Armada)|''Armada'' Makeshift]] / [[Bulge]] / [[Impulsor]] / [[Rotor]] / [[Scythe]]<br />
* [[Incinerator (Movie)|Movie Incinerator]]<br />
* [[Ruination (ROTF)|''ROTF'' Ruination]] (non-toy character)<br />
* [[Springer (ROTF)|''ROTF'' Springer]] / [[Blades (ROTF)|''ROTF'' Blades]] / [[Duststorm (TF 2010)|2010 ''Transformers'' Duststorm]]<br />
<br />
{{-}}<br />
<br />
==Miscellaneous==<br />
===Concorde===<br />
* [[Silverbolt (G1)|G1 Silverbolt]]<br />
* [[Sky High (Micromaster)|Micromaster Sky High]]<br />
* [[Supersonic]] / [[Skydive (Universe)|''Universe'' Skydive]]<br />
* [[Jetstorm (Armada)|''Armada'' Jetstorm]] / [[Skull Buster]]<br />
<br />
===Eurocopter Dauphin===<br />
* [[Evac (Cybertron)|''Cybertron'' Evac]] / [[Springer (G1)|"War Within" Springer]] / [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] / [[Megatron (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' Galvatron]]<br />
* [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]]<br />
* [[Blazemaster|''Revenge of The Fallen'' Blazemaster]] / [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] / [[Tailwhip]]<br />
<br />
===Space Shuttle Orbiter===<br />
[[Image:G1 GalaxyShuttle toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|"Tonight on ''Trick My Space Shuttle'', we'll switch out the boring wings for some sweet F-16 ones."]]<br />
<br />
* [[Astrotrain (G1)|G1 Astrotrain]]<br />
* [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] / [[Shuttle Gunner]] / [[Movor]]<br />
* [[Sky Lynx (G1)|G1 Sky Lynx]]<br />
* [[Galaxy Shuttle]]<br />
* [[Mach]]<br />
* [[Blast Master]] & [[Phaser]] (the two robots combine to form a single vehicle)<br />
* [[Raker]] / [[Storm Jet (Universe)|''Universe'' Storm Jet]]<br />
* [[Cosmo]]<br />
* [[Sky Lynx (SG)|Shattered Glass Sky Lynx]]<br />
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<br />
[[Category:Earth]]<br />
[[Category:Toys]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Jet&diff=773949Jet2012-12-23T05:07:00Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Gaiacross */ Not F-15-like... at all.</p>
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<div>{{factions|autobot}}<br />
:''Jet is an [[Autobot]] from an unknown [[continuity family]].''<br />
[[Image:Kabaya toy-GaiaCrossJet.jpg|thumb|400px|From his first cigarette to his last dying day.]]<br />
'''Jet''' (ジェット ''Jetto'') flies! He forms the torso of [[Gaiacross]], so he might be the team's leader. Then again, [[Scrapper (G1)|he might not]].<br />
<br />
==Toys==<br />
===Gaiacross===<br />
* '''Jet''' (Candy toy, 2011)<br />
** ''ID number'': '''1'''<br />
<br />
: Jet is a snap-together [[candy toy]] model kit produced by [[Kabaya]], coming in an individual box packed with a stick of (nasty) gum. He transforms from a robot into a jet fighter via quite a fair amount of "[[partformer|partforming]]".<br />
<br />
: He can also combine with any of his teammates to form the upper or lower body of a two-robot combination. His instructions show his upper-half configuration as part of "Jet[[Flame (Gaiacross)|flame]]", while [[Launcher]]'s instructions show how to put Jet into lower-half form as part of "Launcherjet". He can also form any part of the six-part super-robot Gaiacross, though his nominal placement is as the upper torso.<br />
<br />
: Due to the softer, waxier plastic used by candy-kit toys, all of the Gaiacross robots can be a bit on the floppy side, and can come apart pretty easily. You might consider (lightly) gluing together some of the non-moving parts, like his torso-halves.<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
* There is no information of any kind about Gaiacross besides that he fights Decepticons in some "other dimension".<br />
* Jet looks to be based off the [[Multiforce]] commander [[Wing (Victory)|Wing]] from ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory]]''. The two have a similar alt-mode, and form the same part of their teams' super-robot modes.<br />
<br />
[[Category: Autobots]]<br />
[[Category: Candy toys]]<br />
[[Category: Combiners]]<br />
[[Category:Japanese-original Transformers]]<br />
[[Category: Toy-only characters]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=771818Fireflight (FOC)2012-12-10T18:22:16Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Notes */</p>
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<div>{{faction|autobot}}<br />
{{disambig3|Air Raid}}<br />
{{disambig3|Fireflight}}<br />
{{disambig2|the Autobot jet fighter from the [[Fall of Cybertron]] game franchise|the other Autobot jet fighter of the same name from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|preceding game]]|Air Raid (WFC)}}<br />
:''Air Raid is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (franchise)|Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''<br />
<br />
[[Image:GenerationsFOCFireflight.jpg|350px|thumb|That Autobot sigil on his chest seemed like a good idea at the time, but he forgot to check how it'd look in jet mode.]]<br />
<br />
'''Air Raid<nowiki>'</nowiki>s''' fascination with the natural beauty of his surroundings causes him to be distracted enough to severely impair his gunnery skills. He makes up for this with copious amounts of flak, hoping that will prevent the enemy from advancing.<br />
<br />
==Toys==<br />
===Generations===<br />
*'''Air Raid''' (Deluxe, 2012?)<br />
:''Accessories'': Cannon/sword, sword/hilt<br />
<br />
:Air Raid will be a [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron| Fall of Cybertron]] [[Shockwave (Prime)#Generations|Shockwave]], with a new head, chest, and weapons. Transforming into a cybertronic jet, he would have come with a sword that could be stored on top of the jet in vehicle mode, and a [[5mm post|hand-held]] cannon which can also transform into a sword, as well as form the fuselage of the vehicle. However, during [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2012, the toy that had previously been named Fireflight was re-named to Air Raid with no explanation. In Japan, a redeco of the toy is still being released in the United line as Fireflight, but presumably as G1 [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]].<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
* Air Raid's colors, personality, and pre-production name indicate he was apparently meant to be an homage to Generation 1 [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]]. It has presumably been renamed for copyright reasons.<br />
* Said personality contradicts the established character of [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] from War for Cybertron, so this is listed as a separate character.<br />
<br />
[[Category: Fall of Cybertron Autobots]]<br />
[[Category: Generations]]<br />
[[Category: Headaches]]<br />
[[Category: Toy-only characters]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=771720Fireflight (FOC)2012-12-10T01:04:34Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
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<div>{{faction|autobot}}<br />
{{disambig3|Air Raid}}<br />
{{disambig3|Fireflight}}<br />
{{disambig2|the Autobot jet fighter from the [[Fall of Cybertron]] game franchise|the other Autobot jet fighter of the same name from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|preceding game]]|Air Raid (WFC)}}<br />
:''Air Raid is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (franchise)|Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''<br />
<br />
[[Image:GenerationsFOCFireflight.jpg|350px|thumb|That Autobot sigil on his chest seemed like a good idea at the time, but he forgot to check how it'd look in jet mode.]]<br />
<br />
'''Air Raid<nowiki>'</nowiki>s''' fascination with the natural beauty of his surroundings causes him to be distracted enough to severely impair his gunnery skills. He makes up for this with copious amounts of flak, hoping that will prevent the enemy from advancing.<br />
<br />
==Toys==<br />
===Generations===<br />
*'''Air Raid''' (Deluxe, 2012?)<br />
:''Accessories'': Cannon/sword, sword/hilt<br />
<br />
:Air Raid will be a [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron| Fall of Cybertron]] [[Shockwave (Prime)#Generations|Shockwave]], with a new head, chest, and weapons. Transforming into a cybertronic jet, he would have come with a sword that could be stored on top of the jet in vehicle mode, and a [[5mm post|hand-held]] cannon which can also transform into a sword, as well as form the fuselage of the vehicle. However, during [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2012, the toy that had previously been named Fireflight was re-named to [[Air Raid (FOC)|Air Raid]] with no explanation. In Japan, a redeco of the toy is still being released in the United line as Fireflight, but presumably as G1 [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]].<br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
* Air Raid's colors, personality, and pre-production name indicate he was apparently meant to be an homage to Generation 1 [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]].<br />
<br />
[[Category: Fall of Cybertron Autobots]]<br />
[[Category: Generations]]<br />
[[Category: Headaches]]<br />
[[Category: Toy-only characters]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=771620Fireflight (FOC)2012-12-09T19:55:35Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
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<div>{{faction|autobot}}<br />
{{disambig3|Air Raid}}<br />
{{disambig3|Fireflight}}<br />
{{disambig2|the Autobot jet fighter from the [[Fall of Cybertron]] game franchise|the other Autobot jet fighter of the same name from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|preceding game]]|Air Raid (WFC)}}<br />
:''Air Raid is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (franchise)|Fall of Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''<br />
<br />
[[Image:GenerationsFOCFireflight.jpg|350px|thumb|That Autobot sigil on his chest seemed like a good idea at the time, but he forgot to check how it'd look in jet mode.]]<br />
<br />
'''Air Raid''' is probably a [[Fireflight (G1)|daydreaming Aerialbot]].<br />
<br />
==Toys==<br />
===Generations===<br />
*'''Air Raid''' (Deluxe, 2012?)<br />
:''Accessories'': Cannon/sword, sword/hilt<br />
<br />
:Air Raid will be a [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron| Fall of Cybertron]] [[Shockwave (Prime)#Generations|Shockwave]], with a new head, chest, and weapons. Transforming into a cybertronic jet, he would have come with a sword that could be stored on top of the jet in vehicle mode, and a [[5mm post|hand-held]] cannon which can also transform into a sword, as well as form the fuselage of the vehicle. However, during [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2012, the toy that had previously been named Fireflight was re-named to [[Air Raid (FoC)|Air Raid]] with no explanation. In Japan, a redeco of the toy is still being released in the United line as Fireflight, but presumably as G1 Fireflight. <br />
<br />
==Notes==<br />
* <br />
<br />
[[Category: Generations]]<br />
[[Category: Headaches]]<br />
[[Category: Toy-only characters]]<br />
[[Category: War for Cybertron Autobots]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768907Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-21T14:42:05Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Devil's advocacy */</p>
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<div>== Detour ==<br />
Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
<br />
== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that. Not positive how to best reflect that the Japanese release (with a different deco) is still on, but the US release is renamed Air Raid... obviously the picture should change, though. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:24, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::The thing is, if Takara's handling of United's FOC stuff follows their handling of the WFC stuff, that won't be Fireflight (FOC), it'll be a new toy of Fireflight (G1). So moving on that front is a little premature. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:00, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::: Good point. But... some mention of it should be made. Either here or on the G1 Fireflight page.[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:25, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Devil's advocacy ==<br />
So we've seen the FOC toy's packaging and he is in fact Air Raid...but he's also Fireflight-colored with a Fireflight head and Fireflight's personality and (roughly) tech spec numbers. When Universe Octane came out as an Octane toy in Octane's colors with Octane's personality, we didn't list it as a toy of Tankor (BM). Might this be a situation where the toy is "really" Fireflight even though it's called Air Raid on the package? -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:32, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I'd agree here, it's clearly a last-minute name substitution. I'd support moving the toy back onto Fireflight (FOC. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 17:07, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
: Tankor's case was a case of trademark trouble. I think this instance is closer to Universe 1 Inferno, which was Red Alert in all instances but name. If 3H hadn't made him an iteration of BW Inferno, I'm fairly certain he'd be on some sort of Inferno page, not a Red Alert one. See also Legends of Cybertron red flamy Hot Shot, who is definitely not really Excellion! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:04, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I don't think those situations are the same because a) Universe Inferno didn't have a new Red Alert head and b) Universe Inferno had no bio or tech spec to go from. If he'd been Prowl in Red Alert colors with a new Red Alert head and his bio said he was a paranoid security officer, I think the conversation about where he belonged would probably be longer. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:15, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
Even if this is a last-minute substitution, it's a continuity in which he's never ''been'' Fireflight. Thus, in Aligned it's his original name.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:39, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:But then there ''has'' already been an Aligned Air Raid, who's been characterised and depicted completely differently... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 18:53, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's the source of my only real interest in this. If we had no idea what Air Raid was like in Aligned, whatevs. Smokescreen and Dreadwing and Hardshell are nothing like their previous versions either. But we know what Air Raid is like, and he's not like this. -[[User:LV|LV]] 19:01, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's what I was going to say. The toy doesn't really belong on "Air Raid (WFC)." However, we can't make up stuff and put him on "Fireflight (FOC)." Clearly, this toy is not this continuity's previously established Autobot named Air Raid who has Air Raid's G1 personality. This toy is a different Autobot named Air Raid with Fireflight's G1 personality. I think making a new "Air Raid (FOC)" page is in order while simultaneously shaking our heads wondering why Hasbro makes things complicated. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:17, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::As much as I would hate for there to be more than one Aligned dude with the same name, I'd have to begrudingly agree with the "Air Raid (FOC)" (or even an "Air Raid (Generations)" - since this particular Air Raid has yet to appear in any fiction outside his bio) idea since he's too different from the established "Air Raid (WFC)" guy. <br />
:::But, on the other hand, that would give others who are against the whole "WFC/FOC guys = Prime guys" ordeal of the Aligned continuity a doorway to argue that likes of WFC Breakdown and Prime Breakdown are different enough to coexist as individuals like the two Air Raids would, and would likely demand that there be separate articles for each and such, which would do more harm than good to how we've already got things going here. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:31, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Doesn't the Movie Air Raid page have like four distinct designs on it? Why does a second one break Aligned Air Raid? (Aha. We split off the seeker one, so just three for Movie Air Raid.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:48, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::I guess it's because none of the three non-Seeker Tyran Air Raids contradicted themselves in their bios (though, the ROTF one had no bio anyway, but I can't exactly speak for Takara DOTM Air Raid since I haven't read his bio, but I'm assuming there's no contradiction since he's included on that page with the others), whereas here we have a toy bio portrayal that conflicts with the existing video game portrayal, primarily since how the two portrayals are thought to be contemporaries of each other, in a continuity that seems to have no shared names between more than one character (as far as we have seen thus far).<br />
:::Although, here's a different thought. Even though this toy's packaging uses the FOC sub-label, suppose this guy ''isn't'' an Aligned character and could fall into a generic "Air Raid (Generations)" article like how we current have [[Ruination (Generations)|Ruination]], [[Topspin (Generations)|Topspin]], and [[Whirl (Generations)|Whirl]] at. I propose that, until we can get a more concrete answer as to what the deal of this toy's character is, we go for an "Air Raid (Generations)" disambiguation. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 21:20, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:: For the time being, updated G1 Fireflight and this page to reflect the fact a redeco of the figure IS coming out as a Fireflight. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:51, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
<br />
Okay, so stock photos of the Kreon combiner Superion are out, and Fireflight is renamed to Firestrike, which suggests that this ''is'' a case of trademark trouble. Does this affect how we're treating this guy? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 13:00, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I don't know, but it's only been three years since the ROTF Superion. Funny how fast this stuff happens. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:15, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I think yes... but only so far as declaring that this guy is a separate character. Declaring he is a pre-production name isn't something we can 'do', even if we know it's right. More to the point, there's a question ''which'' name he would "actually" have if he were released, Fireflight or Firestrike? Trying to filter things through "what they would be like if..." is a slippery slope.<br />
::OTOH if (for example) John Barber mentions a Fireflight in one of his FoC comics I would feel comfortable saying "this is that guy". It's the fact we've got no other data points establishing such a character actually exists that's the real trouble.<br />
::...hell with it. We know this isn't Air Raid, let's not pretend he's the same guy. Hasbro didn't even intend that, this was a demonstrably last-second Trademark thing. So he's Air Raid 2, or whatever. And if we get Fireflight mentioned ANYWHERE he moves. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::It just seems kind of hinky to second-guess Hasbro like that. We don't typically incorporate authorial intent, whether it's explicitly stated or otherwise. At least we generally don't beyond notes at the bottom of articles.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 13:35, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::I look at it this way, when stepping out on a ledge you need three good reasons:<br />
::::#He wasn't supposed to be Air Raid (confirmed by preprod name, plus we know there's Trademark problems)<br />
::::#He's not deco'd like Air Raid.<br />
::::#He's got a bio that's almost 180° of Air Raid.<br />
::::Japan repurposing (depurposing? Sidepurposing?) him unaltered as G1 Fireflight doesn't even have to enter into the equation, it's just icing on top. Ditto for the fact he's a homage-character.<br />
::::I just think that's ''enough''. Not to say he's Fireflight, but to say that he's a ''separate'' Air Raid. Which he is, we're all just angsting whether or not there's enough 'evidence' for us to recognize this of if we're going to be shackled by some imaginary standard which '''causes us to willfully misrepresent what's actually happening'''. Because that's what's happening: He's not the same guy. The wiki us supposed to be a helpful guide, not a collection of neatly listed facts assembled with no judgement or common sense to fit some autistic-compulsive itch-bitch that the world will be rendered ruins because "the released name matters above all else!"<br />
::::Shit, in a reverse-case we didn't declare Tankor was a seperate character from Octane. We used our eyes and brains to say "this is a name swap with two names for the same guy." Unfortunately this is a name swap with one name for two guys. This isn't even as bad as [[Air Raid (G1)#Generation_2_2|Air Raid]]/[[Aero Raid]]. (One name, one toy, two different guys.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:03, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::Tankor was at least an easier case because he was being slotted into a continuity where he had fiction. I mean, that's where I'm in agreement with you. If Barber uses this dude as Fireflight, he goes here in a heartbeat.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:09, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::I'd got further and say that if he mentions Fireflight as existing without even seeing him then you can move this guy to Fireflight (FOC). (A loose standard, I admit. Fortunately it's not what we're debating.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:48, 20 November 2012 (EST) <br />
::::: So... seems like there's something of an agreement that this is Air Raid (FOC) and basically wait for the slightest hint of an opportunity to turn him into Fireflight? Am I interpreting that correctly? And seriously, between this guy, Movie-verse Air Raid(s), Universe Legends-class Air Raid getting mis-labeled on the packaging, and the whole Air Raid/Aero Raid thing, is there some sort of curse on the name to never be easy to identify? [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 14:23, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::Unless he appears in the game in this body, I'm inclined to say [[Air Raid (Generations)]] in keeping with how we did the Wreckers with no fictional appearances. I mean, Fall of Cybertron isn't his franchise of origin unless ''he's in it''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:30, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::::The packaging for all of these guys says "FALL OF CYBERTRON" as one of the most dominant pieces of copy. -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::Have you seen this guy's package yet? They dropped "Prime" from Cyberverse Evac's package so the buyer can fit him into the movie continuity if he wants. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:17, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TF2013GEN001&lang=us&CatID= [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 16:22, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::::'''So... [[Air Raid (FOC)]] then?''' I'm pretty convinced, even without appearing in the game, he's in the FOC toyline (like how, well, DotM Air Raid is DotM despite not being in the movie).[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 16:57, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::My bolding, because it's the relevant question. I vote yes. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:48, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::I vote yes. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:08, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::::::Objection to the "(FOC)" disambig. [[Ruination (Generations)|Ruination]], [[Topspin (Generations)|Topspin]], and [[Whirl (Generations)|Whirl]] are in a similar boat as this Air Raid is. "Air Raid (Generations)" is the better choice on account of this guy having made no appearances in any FOC media, as well as the fact that the toyline is called "Generations" and not "Fall of Cybertron". There is no toyline called "Fall of Cybertron". The only thing this guy has appeared in is the Generations toyline, which is also his first '''franchise''' appearance, therefore, he's best known as "Air Raid (Generations)". --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:48, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::::Those guys were not disambiguated FOC because we didn't know what their packaging would look like, so the remote chance existed that they would be G1 or some other non-Aligned versions of the characters. These characters are explicitly identified as being from FOC on their packaging; the "Generations" disambiguation doesn't tell us anything about them. It is less specific and therefore less useful. When we inevitably see that the Wreckers' packages also have "FALL OF CYBERTRON" on them, they should also be moved. -[[User:LV|LV]] 00:54, 21 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::Yeah, I'm going to have to vote yes. As LV pointed out, they're not in the same boat as the Wreckers, since we haven't seen their packaging and have no idea what continuity they're in. And Generations is especially confusing since it would be confused as an update of one of the many other Air Raids out there. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:42, 21 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Also, do we have a term for what Japan is doing? De-purposing? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768852Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-20T21:57:53Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
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Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
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== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that. Not positive how to best reflect that the Japanese release (with a different deco) is still on, but the US release is renamed Air Raid... obviously the picture should change, though. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:24, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::The thing is, if Takara's handling of United's FOC stuff follows their handling of the WFC stuff, that won't be Fireflight (FOC), it'll be a new toy of Fireflight (G1). So moving on that front is a little premature. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:00, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::: Good point. But... some mention of it should be made. Either here or on the G1 Fireflight page.[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:25, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Devil's advocacy ==<br />
So we've seen the FOC toy's packaging and he is in fact Air Raid...but he's also Fireflight-colored with a Fireflight head and Fireflight's personality and (roughly) tech spec numbers. When Universe Octane came out as an Octane toy in Octane's colors with Octane's personality, we didn't list it as a toy of Tankor (BM). Might this be a situation where the toy is "really" Fireflight even though it's called Air Raid on the package? -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:32, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I'd agree here, it's clearly a last-minute name substitution. I'd support moving the toy back onto Fireflight (FOC. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 17:07, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
: Tankor's case was a case of trademark trouble. I think this instance is closer to Universe 1 Inferno, which was Red Alert in all instances but name. If 3H hadn't made him an iteration of BW Inferno, I'm fairly certain he'd be on some sort of Inferno page, not a Red Alert one. See also Legends of Cybertron red flamy Hot Shot, who is definitely not really Excellion! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:04, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I don't think those situations are the same because a) Universe Inferno didn't have a new Red Alert head and b) Universe Inferno had no bio or tech spec to go from. If he'd been Prowl in Red Alert colors with a new Red Alert head and his bio said he was a paranoid security officer, I think the conversation about where he belonged would probably be longer. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:15, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
Even if this is a last-minute substitution, it's a continuity in which he's never ''been'' Fireflight. Thus, in Aligned it's his original name.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:39, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:But then there ''has'' already been an Aligned Air Raid, who's been characterised and depicted completely differently... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 18:53, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's the source of my only real interest in this. If we had no idea what Air Raid was like in Aligned, whatevs. Smokescreen and Dreadwing and Hardshell are nothing like their previous versions either. But we know what Air Raid is like, and he's not like this. -[[User:LV|LV]] 19:01, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's what I was going to say. The toy doesn't really belong on "Air Raid (WFC)." However, we can't make up stuff and put him on "Fireflight (FOC)." Clearly, this toy is not this continuity's previously established Autobot named Air Raid who has Air Raid's G1 personality. This toy is a different Autobot named Air Raid with Fireflight's G1 personality. I think making a new "Air Raid (FOC)" page is in order while simultaneously shaking our heads wondering why Hasbro makes things complicated. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:17, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::As much as I would hate for there to be more than one Aligned dude with the same name, I'd have to begrudingly agree with the "Air Raid (FOC)" (or even an "Air Raid (Generations)" - since this particular Air Raid has yet to appear in any fiction outside his bio) idea since he's too different from the established "Air Raid (WFC)" guy. <br />
:::But, on the other hand, that would give others who are against the whole "WFC/FOC guys = Prime guys" ordeal of the Aligned continuity a doorway to argue that likes of WFC Breakdown and Prime Breakdown are different enough to coexist as individuals like the two Air Raids would, and would likely demand that there be separate articles for each and such, which would do more harm than good to how we've already got things going here. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:31, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Doesn't the Movie Air Raid page have like four distinct designs on it? Why does a second one break Aligned Air Raid? (Aha. We split off the seeker one, so just three for Movie Air Raid.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:48, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::I guess it's because none of the three non-Seeker Tyran Air Raids contradicted themselves in their bios (though, the ROTF one had no bio anyway, but I can't exactly speak for Takara DOTM Air Raid since I haven't read his bio, but I'm assuming there's no contradiction since he's included on that page with the others), whereas here we have a toy bio portrayal that conflicts with the existing video game portrayal, primarily since how the two portrayals are thought to be contemporaries of each other, in a continuity that seems to have no shared names between more than one character (as far as we have seen thus far).<br />
:::Although, here's a different thought. Even though this toy's packaging uses the FOC sub-label, suppose this guy ''isn't'' an Aligned character and could fall into a generic "Air Raid (Generations)" article like how we current have [[Ruination (Generations)|Ruination]], [[Topspin (Generations)|Topspin]], and [[Whirl (Generations)|Whirl]] at. I propose that, until we can get a more concrete answer as to what the deal of this toy's character is, we go for an "Air Raid (Generations)" disambiguation. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 21:20, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:: For the time being, updated G1 Fireflight and this page to reflect the fact a redeco of the figure IS coming out as a Fireflight. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:51, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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Okay, so stock photos of the Kreon combiner Superion are out, and Fireflight is renamed to Firestrike, which suggests that this ''is'' a case of trademark trouble. Does this affect how we're treating this guy? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 13:00, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I don't know, but it's only been three years since the ROTF Superion. Funny how fast this stuff happens. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:15, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I think yes... but only so far as declaring that this guy is a separate character. Declaring he is a pre-production name isn't something we can 'do', even if we know it's right. More to the point, there's a question ''which'' name he would "actually" have if he were released, Fireflight or Firestrike? Trying to filter things through "what they would be like if..." is a slippery slope.<br />
::OTOH if (for example) John Barber mentions a Fireflight in one of his FoC comics I would feel comfortable saying "this is that guy". It's the fact we've got no other data points establishing such a character actually exists that's the real trouble.<br />
::...hell with it. We know this isn't Air Raid, let's not pretend he's the same guy. Hasbro didn't even intend that, this was a demonstrably last-second Trademark thing. So he's Air Raid 2, or whatever. And if we get Fireflight mentioned ANYWHERE he moves. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::It just seems kind of hinky to second-guess Hasbro like that. We don't typically incorporate authorial intent, whether it's explicitly stated or otherwise. At least we generally don't beyond notes at the bottom of articles.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 13:35, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::I look at it this way, when stepping out on a ledge you need three good reasons:<br />
::::#He wasn't supposed to be Air Raid (confirmed by preprod name, plus we know there's Trademark problems)<br />
::::#He's not deco'd like Air Raid.<br />
::::#He's got a bio that's almost 180° of Air Raid.<br />
::::Japan repurposing (depurposing? Sidepurposing?) him unaltered as G1 Fireflight doesn't even have to enter into the equation, it's just icing on top. Ditto for the fact he's a homage-character.<br />
::::I just think that's ''enough''. Not to say he's Fireflight, but to say that he's a ''separate'' Air Raid. Which he is, we're all just angsting whether or not there's enough 'evidence' for us to recognize this of if we're going to be shackled by some imaginary standard which '''causes us to willfully misrepresent what's actually happening'''. Because that's what's happening: He's not the same guy. The wiki us supposed to be a helpful guide, not a collection of neatly listed facts assembled with no judgement or common sense to fit some autistic-compulsive itch-bitch that the world will be rendered ruins because "the released name matters above all else!"<br />
::::Shit, in a reverse-case we didn't declare Tankor was a seperate character from Octane. We used our eyes and brains to say "this is a name swap with two names for the same guy." Unfortunately this is a name swap with one name for two guys. This isn't even as bad as [[Air Raid (G1)#Generation_2_2|Air Raid]]/[[Aero Raid]]. (One name, one toy, two different guys.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:03, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::Tankor was at least an easier case because he was being slotted into a continuity where he had fiction. I mean, that's where I'm in agreement with you. If Barber uses this dude as Fireflight, he goes here in a heartbeat.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:09, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::: So... seems like there's something of an agreement that this is Air Raid (FOC) and basically wait for the slightest hint of an opportunity to turn him into Fireflight? Am I interpreting that correctly? And seriously, between this guy, Movie-verse Air Raid(s), Universe Legends-class Air Raid getting mis-labeled on the packaging, and the whole Air Raid/Aero Raid thing, is there some sort of curse on the name to never be easy to identify? [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 14:23, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::Unless he appears in the game in this body, I'm inclined to say [[Air Raid (Generations)]] in keeping with how we did the Wreckers with no fictional appearances. I mean, Fall of Cybertron isn't his franchise of origin unless ''he's in it''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:30, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::::The packaging for all of these guys says "FALL OF CYBERTRON" as one of the most dominant pieces of copy. -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::Have you seen this guy's package yet? They dropped "Prime" from Cyberverse Evac's package so the buyer can fit him into the movie continuity if he wants. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:17, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TF2013GEN001&lang=us&CatID= [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 16:22, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::::So... [[Air Raid (FOC)]] then? I'm pretty convinced, even without appearing in the game, he's in the FOC toyline (like how, well, DotM Air Raid is DotM despite not being in the movie).[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 16:57, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Also, do we have a term for what Japan is doing? De-purposing? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768850Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-20T21:57:33Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
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<div>== Detour ==<br />
Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
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== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that. Not positive how to best reflect that the Japanese release (with a different deco) is still on, but the US release is renamed Air Raid... obviously the picture should change, though. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:24, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::The thing is, if Takara's handling of United's FOC stuff follows their handling of the WFC stuff, that won't be Fireflight (FOC), it'll be a new toy of Fireflight (G1). So moving on that front is a little premature. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:00, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::: Good point. But... some mention of it should be made. Either here or on the G1 Fireflight page.[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:25, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Devil's advocacy ==<br />
So we've seen the FOC toy's packaging and he is in fact Air Raid...but he's also Fireflight-colored with a Fireflight head and Fireflight's personality and (roughly) tech spec numbers. When Universe Octane came out as an Octane toy in Octane's colors with Octane's personality, we didn't list it as a toy of Tankor (BM). Might this be a situation where the toy is "really" Fireflight even though it's called Air Raid on the package? -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:32, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I'd agree here, it's clearly a last-minute name substitution. I'd support moving the toy back onto Fireflight (FOC. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 17:07, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
: Tankor's case was a case of trademark trouble. I think this instance is closer to Universe 1 Inferno, which was Red Alert in all instances but name. If 3H hadn't made him an iteration of BW Inferno, I'm fairly certain he'd be on some sort of Inferno page, not a Red Alert one. See also Legends of Cybertron red flamy Hot Shot, who is definitely not really Excellion! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:04, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I don't think those situations are the same because a) Universe Inferno didn't have a new Red Alert head and b) Universe Inferno had no bio or tech spec to go from. If he'd been Prowl in Red Alert colors with a new Red Alert head and his bio said he was a paranoid security officer, I think the conversation about where he belonged would probably be longer. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:15, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
Even if this is a last-minute substitution, it's a continuity in which he's never ''been'' Fireflight. Thus, in Aligned it's his original name.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:39, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:But then there ''has'' already been an Aligned Air Raid, who's been characterised and depicted completely differently... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 18:53, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's the source of my only real interest in this. If we had no idea what Air Raid was like in Aligned, whatevs. Smokescreen and Dreadwing and Hardshell are nothing like their previous versions either. But we know what Air Raid is like, and he's not like this. -[[User:LV|LV]] 19:01, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's what I was going to say. The toy doesn't really belong on "Air Raid (WFC)." However, we can't make up stuff and put him on "Fireflight (FOC)." Clearly, this toy is not this continuity's previously established Autobot named Air Raid who has Air Raid's G1 personality. This toy is a different Autobot named Air Raid with Fireflight's G1 personality. I think making a new "Air Raid (FOC)" page is in order while simultaneously shaking our heads wondering why Hasbro makes things complicated. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:17, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::As much as I would hate for there to be more than one Aligned dude with the same name, I'd have to begrudingly agree with the "Air Raid (FOC)" (or even an "Air Raid (Generations)" - since this particular Air Raid has yet to appear in any fiction outside his bio) idea since he's too different from the established "Air Raid (WFC)" guy. <br />
:::But, on the other hand, that would give others who are against the whole "WFC/FOC guys = Prime guys" ordeal of the Aligned continuity a doorway to argue that likes of WFC Breakdown and Prime Breakdown are different enough to coexist as individuals like the two Air Raids would, and would likely demand that there be separate articles for each and such, which would do more harm than good to how we've already got things going here. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:31, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Doesn't the Movie Air Raid page have like four distinct designs on it? Why does a second one break Aligned Air Raid? (Aha. We split off the seeker one, so just three for Movie Air Raid.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:48, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::I guess it's because none of the three non-Seeker Tyran Air Raids contradicted themselves in their bios (though, the ROTF one had no bio anyway, but I can't exactly speak for Takara DOTM Air Raid since I haven't read his bio, but I'm assuming there's no contradiction since he's included on that page with the others), whereas here we have a toy bio portrayal that conflicts with the existing video game portrayal, primarily since how the two portrayals are thought to be contemporaries of each other, in a continuity that seems to have no shared names between more than one character (as far as we have seen thus far).<br />
:::Although, here's a different thought. Even though this toy's packaging uses the FOC sub-label, suppose this guy ''isn't'' an Aligned character and could fall into a generic "Air Raid (Generations)" article like how we current have [[Ruination (Generations)|Ruination]], [[Topspin (Generations)|Topspin]], and [[Whirl (Generations)|Whirl]] at. I propose that, until we can get a more concrete answer as to what the deal of this toy's character is, we go for an "Air Raid (Generations)" disambiguation. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 21:20, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:: For the time being, updated G1 Fireflight and this page to reflect the fact a redeco of the figure IS coming out as a Fireflight. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:51, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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Okay, so stock photos of the Kreon combiner Superion are out, and Fireflight is renamed to Firestrike, which suggests that this ''is'' a case of trademark trouble. Does this affect how we're treating this guy? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 13:00, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I don't know, but it's only been three years since the ROTF Superion. Funny how fast this stuff happens. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:15, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I think yes... but only so far as declaring that this guy is a separate character. Declaring he is a pre-production name isn't something we can 'do', even if we know it's right. More to the point, there's a question ''which'' name he would "actually" have if he were released, Fireflight or Firestrike? Trying to filter things through "what they would be like if..." is a slippery slope.<br />
::OTOH if (for example) John Barber mentions a Fireflight in one of his FoC comics I would feel comfortable saying "this is that guy". It's the fact we've got no other data points establishing such a character actually exists that's the real trouble.<br />
::...hell with it. We know this isn't Air Raid, let's not pretend he's the same guy. Hasbro didn't even intend that, this was a demonstrably last-second Trademark thing. So he's Air Raid 2, or whatever. And if we get Fireflight mentioned ANYWHERE he moves. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::It just seems kind of hinky to second-guess Hasbro like that. We don't typically incorporate authorial intent, whether it's explicitly stated or otherwise. At least we generally don't beyond notes at the bottom of articles.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 13:35, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::I look at it this way, when stepping out on a ledge you need three good reasons:<br />
::::#He wasn't supposed to be Air Raid (confirmed by preprod name, plus we know there's Trademark problems)<br />
::::#He's not deco'd like Air Raid.<br />
::::#He's got a bio that's almost 180° of Air Raid.<br />
::::Japan repurposing (depurposing? Sidepurposing?) him unaltered as G1 Fireflight doesn't even have to enter into the equation, it's just icing on top. Ditto for the fact he's a homage-character.<br />
::::I just think that's ''enough''. Not to say he's Fireflight, but to say that he's a ''separate'' Air Raid. Which he is, we're all just angsting whether or not there's enough 'evidence' for us to recognize this of if we're going to be shackled by some imaginary standard which '''causes us to willfully misrepresent what's actually happening'''. Because that's what's happening: He's not the same guy. The wiki us supposed to be a helpful guide, not a collection of neatly listed facts assembled with no judgement or common sense to fit some autistic-compulsive itch-bitch that the world will be rendered ruins because "the released name matters above all else!"<br />
::::Shit, in a reverse-case we didn't declare Tankor was a seperate character from Octane. We used our eyes and brains to say "this is a name swap with two names for the same guy." Unfortunately this is a name swap with one name for two guys. This isn't even as bad as [[Air Raid (G1)#Generation_2_2|Air Raid]]/[[Aero Raid]]. (One name, one toy, two different guys.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:03, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::Tankor was at least an easier case because he was being slotted into a continuity where he had fiction. I mean, that's where I'm in agreement with you. If Barber uses this dude as Fireflight, he goes here in a heartbeat.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:09, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::: So... seems like there's something of an agreement that this is Air Raid (FOC) and basically wait for the slightest hint of an opportunity to turn him into Fireflight? Am I interpreting that correctly? And seriously, between this guy, Movie-verse Air Raid(s), Universe Legends-class Air Raid getting mis-labeled on the packaging, and the whole Air Raid/Aero Raid thing, is there some sort of curse on the name to never be easy to identify? [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 14:23, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::Unless he appears in the game in this body, I'm inclined to say [[Air Raid (Generations)]] in keeping with how we did the Wreckers with no fictional appearances. I mean, Fall of Cybertron isn't his franchise of origin unless ''he's in it''.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:30, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::::The packaging for all of these guys says "FALL OF CYBERTRON" as one of the most dominant pieces of copy. -[[User:LV|LV]] 15:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::Have you seen this guy's package yet? They dropped "Prime" from Cyberverse Evac's package so the buyer can fit him into the movie continuity if he wants. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:17, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::::::http://www.robotkingdom.com/services/eshop/main.php?action=details&CatType=&II=TF2013GEN001&lang=us&CatID= [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 16:22, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::::So... [[Air Raid (FOC)]] then? I'm pretty convinced, even without appearing in the game, he's in the FOC toyline (like how, well, DotM Air Raid is DotM despite not being in the movie).<br />
::Also, do we have a term for what Japan is doing? De-purposing? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768840Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-20T19:23:53Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Devil's advocacy */</p>
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<div>== Detour ==<br />
Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
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== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that. Not positive how to best reflect that the Japanese release (with a different deco) is still on, but the US release is renamed Air Raid... obviously the picture should change, though. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:24, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::The thing is, if Takara's handling of United's FOC stuff follows their handling of the WFC stuff, that won't be Fireflight (FOC), it'll be a new toy of Fireflight (G1). So moving on that front is a little premature. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:00, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::: Good point. But... some mention of it should be made. Either here or on the G1 Fireflight page.[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:25, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Devil's advocacy ==<br />
So we've seen the FOC toy's packaging and he is in fact Air Raid...but he's also Fireflight-colored with a Fireflight head and Fireflight's personality and (roughly) tech spec numbers. When Universe Octane came out as an Octane toy in Octane's colors with Octane's personality, we didn't list it as a toy of Tankor (BM). Might this be a situation where the toy is "really" Fireflight even though it's called Air Raid on the package? -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:32, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I'd agree here, it's clearly a last-minute name substitution. I'd support moving the toy back onto Fireflight (FOC. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 17:07, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
: Tankor's case was a case of trademark trouble. I think this instance is closer to Universe 1 Inferno, which was Red Alert in all instances but name. If 3H hadn't made him an iteration of BW Inferno, I'm fairly certain he'd be on some sort of Inferno page, not a Red Alert one. See also Legends of Cybertron red flamy Hot Shot, who is definitely not really Excellion! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:04, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I don't think those situations are the same because a) Universe Inferno didn't have a new Red Alert head and b) Universe Inferno had no bio or tech spec to go from. If he'd been Prowl in Red Alert colors with a new Red Alert head and his bio said he was a paranoid security officer, I think the conversation about where he belonged would probably be longer. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:15, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
Even if this is a last-minute substitution, it's a continuity in which he's never ''been'' Fireflight. Thus, in Aligned it's his original name.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:39, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:But then there ''has'' already been an Aligned Air Raid, who's been characterised and depicted completely differently... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 18:53, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's the source of my only real interest in this. If we had no idea what Air Raid was like in Aligned, whatevs. Smokescreen and Dreadwing and Hardshell are nothing like their previous versions either. But we know what Air Raid is like, and he's not like this. -[[User:LV|LV]] 19:01, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's what I was going to say. The toy doesn't really belong on "Air Raid (WFC)." However, we can't make up stuff and put him on "Fireflight (FOC)." Clearly, this toy is not this continuity's previously established Autobot named Air Raid who has Air Raid's G1 personality. This toy is a different Autobot named Air Raid with Fireflight's G1 personality. I think making a new "Air Raid (FOC)" page is in order while simultaneously shaking our heads wondering why Hasbro makes things complicated. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:17, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::As much as I would hate for there to be more than one Aligned dude with the same name, I'd have to begrudingly agree with the "Air Raid (FOC)" (or even an "Air Raid (Generations)" - since this particular Air Raid has yet to appear in any fiction outside his bio) idea since he's too different from the established "Air Raid (WFC)" guy. <br />
:::But, on the other hand, that would give others who are against the whole "WFC/FOC guys = Prime guys" ordeal of the Aligned continuity a doorway to argue that likes of WFC Breakdown and Prime Breakdown are different enough to coexist as individuals like the two Air Raids would, and would likely demand that there be separate articles for each and such, which would do more harm than good to how we've already got things going here. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:31, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Doesn't the Movie Air Raid page have like four distinct designs on it? Why does a second one break Aligned Air Raid? (Aha. We split off the seeker one, so just three for Movie Air Raid.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:48, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::I guess it's because none of the three non-Seeker Tyran Air Raids contradicted themselves in their bios (though, the ROTF one had no bio anyway, but I can't exactly speak for Takara DOTM Air Raid since I haven't read his bio, but I'm assuming there's no contradiction since he's included on that page with the others), whereas here we have a toy bio portrayal that conflicts with the existing video game portrayal, primarily since how the two portrayals are thought to be contemporaries of each other, in a continuity that seems to have no shared names between more than one character (as far as we have seen thus far).<br />
:::Although, here's a different thought. Even though this toy's packaging uses the FOC sub-label, suppose this guy ''isn't'' an Aligned character and could fall into a generic "Air Raid (Generations)" article like how we current have [[Ruination (Generations)|Ruination]], [[Topspin (Generations)|Topspin]], and [[Whirl (Generations)|Whirl]] at. I propose that, until we can get a more concrete answer as to what the deal of this toy's character is, we go for an "Air Raid (Generations)" disambiguation. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 21:20, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:: For the time being, updated G1 Fireflight and this page to reflect the fact a redeco of the figure IS coming out as a Fireflight. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:51, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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Okay, so stock photos of the Kreon combiner Superion are out, and Fireflight is renamed to Firestrike, which suggests that this ''is'' a case of trademark trouble. Does this affect how we're treating this guy? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 13:00, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I don't know, but it's only been three years since the ROTF Superion. Funny how fast this stuff happens. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:15, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I think yes... but only so far as declaring that this guy is a separate character. Declaring he is a pre-production name isn't something we can 'do', even if we know it's right. More to the point, there's a question ''which'' name he would "actually" have if he were released, Fireflight or Firestrike? Trying to filter things through "what they would be like if..." is a slippery slope.<br />
::OTOH if (for example) John Barber mentions a Fireflight in one of his FoC comics I would feel comfortable saying "this is that guy". It's the fact we've got no other data points establishing such a character actually exists that's the real trouble.<br />
::...hell with it. We know this isn't Air Raid, let's not pretend he's the same guy. Hasbro didn't even intend that, this was a demonstrably last-second Trademark thing. So he's Air Raid 2, or whatever. And if we get Fireflight mentioned ANYWHERE he moves. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::It just seems kind of hinky to second-guess Hasbro like that. We don't typically incorporate authorial intent, whether it's explicitly stated or otherwise. At least we generally don't beyond notes at the bottom of articles.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 13:35, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::I look at it this way, when stepping out on a ledge you need three good reasons:<br />
::::#He wasn't supposed to be Air Raid (confirmed by preprod name, plus we know there's Trademark problems)<br />
::::#He's not deco'd like Air Raid.<br />
::::#He's got a bio that's almost 180° of Air Raid.<br />
::::Japan repurposing (depurposing? Sidepurposing?) him unaltered as G1 Fireflight doesn't even have to enter into the equation, it's just icing on top. Ditto for the fact he's a homage-character.<br />
::::I just think that's ''enough''. Not to say he's Fireflight, but to say that he's a ''separate'' Air Raid. Which he is, we're all just angsting whether or not there's enough 'evidence' for us to recognize this of if we're going to be shackled by some imaginary standard which '''causes us to willfully misrepresent what's actually happening'''. Because that's what's happening: He's not the same guy. The wiki us supposed to be a helpful guide, not a collection of neatly listed facts assembled with no judgement or common sense to fit some autistic-compulsive itch-bitch that the world will be rendered ruins because "the released name matters above all else!"<br />
::::Shit, in a reverse-case we didn't declare Tankor was a seperate character from Octane. We used our eyes and brains to say "this is a name swap with two names for the same guy." Unfortunately this is a name swap with one name for two guys. This isn't even as bad as [[Air Raid (G1)#Generation_2_2|Air Raid]]/[[Aero Raid]]. (One name, one toy, two different guys.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:03, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::Tankor was at least an easier case because he was being slotted into a continuity where he had fiction. I mean, that's where I'm in agreement with you. If Barber uses this dude as Fireflight, he goes here in a heartbeat.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:09, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::: So... seems like there's something of an agreement that this is Air Raid (FOC) and basically wait for the slightest hint of an opportunity to turn him into Fireflight? Am I interpreting that correctly? And seriously, between this guy, Movie-verse Air Raid(s), Universe Legends-class Air Raid getting mis-labeled on the packaging, and the whole Air Raid/Aero Raid thing, is there some sort of curse on the name to never be easy to identify? [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 14:23, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Also, do we have a term for what Japan is doing? De-purposing? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768839Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-20T19:23:30Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
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<div>== Detour ==<br />
Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
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== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that. Not positive how to best reflect that the Japanese release (with a different deco) is still on, but the US release is renamed Air Raid... obviously the picture should change, though. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:24, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::The thing is, if Takara's handling of United's FOC stuff follows their handling of the WFC stuff, that won't be Fireflight (FOC), it'll be a new toy of Fireflight (G1). So moving on that front is a little premature. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:00, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::: Good point. But... some mention of it should be made. Either here or on the G1 Fireflight page.[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:25, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Devil's advocacy ==<br />
So we've seen the FOC toy's packaging and he is in fact Air Raid...but he's also Fireflight-colored with a Fireflight head and Fireflight's personality and (roughly) tech spec numbers. When Universe Octane came out as an Octane toy in Octane's colors with Octane's personality, we didn't list it as a toy of Tankor (BM). Might this be a situation where the toy is "really" Fireflight even though it's called Air Raid on the package? -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:32, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I'd agree here, it's clearly a last-minute name substitution. I'd support moving the toy back onto Fireflight (FOC. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 17:07, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
: Tankor's case was a case of trademark trouble. I think this instance is closer to Universe 1 Inferno, which was Red Alert in all instances but name. If 3H hadn't made him an iteration of BW Inferno, I'm fairly certain he'd be on some sort of Inferno page, not a Red Alert one. See also Legends of Cybertron red flamy Hot Shot, who is definitely not really Excellion! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:04, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I don't think those situations are the same because a) Universe Inferno didn't have a new Red Alert head and b) Universe Inferno had no bio or tech spec to go from. If he'd been Prowl in Red Alert colors with a new Red Alert head and his bio said he was a paranoid security officer, I think the conversation about where he belonged would probably be longer. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:15, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
Even if this is a last-minute substitution, it's a continuity in which he's never ''been'' Fireflight. Thus, in Aligned it's his original name.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:39, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:But then there ''has'' already been an Aligned Air Raid, who's been characterised and depicted completely differently... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 18:53, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's the source of my only real interest in this. If we had no idea what Air Raid was like in Aligned, whatevs. Smokescreen and Dreadwing and Hardshell are nothing like their previous versions either. But we know what Air Raid is like, and he's not like this. -[[User:LV|LV]] 19:01, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's what I was going to say. The toy doesn't really belong on "Air Raid (WFC)." However, we can't make up stuff and put him on "Fireflight (FOC)." Clearly, this toy is not this continuity's previously established Autobot named Air Raid who has Air Raid's G1 personality. This toy is a different Autobot named Air Raid with Fireflight's G1 personality. I think making a new "Air Raid (FOC)" page is in order while simultaneously shaking our heads wondering why Hasbro makes things complicated. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:17, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::As much as I would hate for there to be more than one Aligned dude with the same name, I'd have to begrudingly agree with the "Air Raid (FOC)" (or even an "Air Raid (Generations)" - since this particular Air Raid has yet to appear in any fiction outside his bio) idea since he's too different from the established "Air Raid (WFC)" guy. <br />
:::But, on the other hand, that would give others who are against the whole "WFC/FOC guys = Prime guys" ordeal of the Aligned continuity a doorway to argue that likes of WFC Breakdown and Prime Breakdown are different enough to coexist as individuals like the two Air Raids would, and would likely demand that there be separate articles for each and such, which would do more harm than good to how we've already got things going here. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:31, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Doesn't the Movie Air Raid page have like four distinct designs on it? Why does a second one break Aligned Air Raid? (Aha. We split off the seeker one, so just three for Movie Air Raid.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:48, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::I guess it's because none of the three non-Seeker Tyran Air Raids contradicted themselves in their bios (though, the ROTF one had no bio anyway, but I can't exactly speak for Takara DOTM Air Raid since I haven't read his bio, but I'm assuming there's no contradiction since he's included on that page with the others), whereas here we have a toy bio portrayal that conflicts with the existing video game portrayal, primarily since how the two portrayals are thought to be contemporaries of each other, in a continuity that seems to have no shared names between more than one character (as far as we have seen thus far).<br />
:::Although, here's a different thought. Even though this toy's packaging uses the FOC sub-label, suppose this guy ''isn't'' an Aligned character and could fall into a generic "Air Raid (Generations)" article like how we current have [[Ruination (Generations)|Ruination]], [[Topspin (Generations)|Topspin]], and [[Whirl (Generations)|Whirl]] at. I propose that, until we can get a more concrete answer as to what the deal of this toy's character is, we go for an "Air Raid (Generations)" disambiguation. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 21:20, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:: For the time being, updated G1 Fireflight and this page to reflect the fact a redeco of the figure IS coming out as a Fireflight. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:51, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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Okay, so stock photos of the Kreon combiner Superion are out, and Fireflight is renamed to Firestrike, which suggests that this ''is'' a case of trademark trouble. Does this affect how we're treating this guy? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 13:00, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I don't know, but it's only been three years since the ROTF Superion. Funny how fast this stuff happens. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:15, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I think yes... but only so far as declaring that this guy is a separate character. Declaring he is a pre-production name isn't something we can 'do', even if we know it's right. More to the point, there's a question ''which'' name he would "actually" have if he were released, Fireflight or Firestrike? Trying to filter things through "what they would be like if..." is a slippery slope.<br />
::OTOH if (for example) John Barber mentions a Fireflight in one of his FoC comics I would feel comfortable saying "this is that guy". It's the fact we've got no other data points establishing such a character actually exists that's the real trouble.<br />
::...hell with it. We know this isn't Air Raid, let's not pretend he's the same guy. Hasbro didn't even intend that, this was a demonstrably last-second Trademark thing. So he's Air Raid 2, or whatever. And if we get Fireflight mentioned ANYWHERE he moves. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::It just seems kind of hinky to second-guess Hasbro like that. We don't typically incorporate authorial intent, whether it's explicitly stated or otherwise. At least we generally don't beyond notes at the bottom of articles.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 13:35, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::I look at it this way, when stepping out on a ledge you need three good reasons:<br />
::::#He wasn't supposed to be Air Raid (confirmed by preprod name, plus we know there's Trademark problems)<br />
::::#He's not deco'd like Air Raid.<br />
::::#He's got a bio that's almost 180° of Air Raid.<br />
::::Japan repurposing (depurposing? Sidepurposing?) him unaltered as G1 Fireflight doesn't even have to enter into the equation, it's just icing on top. Ditto for the fact he's a homage-character.<br />
::::I just think that's ''enough''. Not to say he's Fireflight, but to say that he's a ''separate'' Air Raid. Which he is, we're all just angsting whether or not there's enough 'evidence' for us to recognize this of if we're going to be shackled by some imaginary standard which '''causes us to willfully misrepresent what's actually happening'''. Because that's what's happening: He's not the same guy. The wiki us supposed to be a helpful guide, not a collection of neatly listed facts assembled with no judgement or common sense to fit some autistic-compulsive itch-bitch that the world will be rendered ruins because "the released name matters above all else!"<br />
::::Shit, in a reverse-case we didn't declare Tankor was a seperate character from Octane. We used our eyes and brains to say "this is a name swap with two names for the same guy." Unfortunately this is a name swap with one name for two guys. This isn't even as bad as [[Air Raid (G1)#Generation_2_2|Air Raid]]/[[Aero Raid]]. (One name, one toy, two different guys.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:03, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::::Tankor was at least an easier case because he was being slotted into a continuity where he had fiction. I mean, that's where I'm in agreement with you. If Barber uses this dude as Fireflight, he goes here in a heartbeat.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 14:09, 20 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::::: So... seems like there's something of an agreement that this is Air Raid (FOC) and basically wait for the slightest hint of an opportunity to turn him into Fireflight? Am I interpreting that correctly? And seriously, between this guy, Movie-verse Air Raid(s), Universe Legends-class Air Raid getting mis-labeled on the packaging, and the whole Air Raid/Aero Raid thing, is there some sort of curse on the name to never be easy to identify? <br />
::Also, do we have a term for what Japan is doing? De-purposing? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:32, 20 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768812Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-20T16:51:39Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Devil's advocacy */</p>
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<div>== Detour ==<br />
Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
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== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that. Not positive how to best reflect that the Japanese release (with a different deco) is still on, but the US release is renamed Air Raid... obviously the picture should change, though. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:24, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::The thing is, if Takara's handling of United's FOC stuff follows their handling of the WFC stuff, that won't be Fireflight (FOC), it'll be a new toy of Fireflight (G1). So moving on that front is a little premature. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:00, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::: Good point. But... some mention of it should be made. Either here or on the G1 Fireflight page.[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:25, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Devil's advocacy ==<br />
So we've seen the FOC toy's packaging and he is in fact Air Raid...but he's also Fireflight-colored with a Fireflight head and Fireflight's personality and (roughly) tech spec numbers. When Universe Octane came out as an Octane toy in Octane's colors with Octane's personality, we didn't list it as a toy of Tankor (BM). Might this be a situation where the toy is "really" Fireflight even though it's called Air Raid on the package? -[[User:LV|LV]] 16:32, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:I'd agree here, it's clearly a last-minute name substitution. I'd support moving the toy back onto Fireflight (FOC. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 17:07, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
: Tankor's case was a case of trademark trouble. I think this instance is closer to Universe 1 Inferno, which was Red Alert in all instances but name. If 3H hadn't made him an iteration of BW Inferno, I'm fairly certain he'd be on some sort of Inferno page, not a Red Alert one. See also Legends of Cybertron red flamy Hot Shot, who is definitely not really Excellion! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:04, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::I don't think those situations are the same because a) Universe Inferno didn't have a new Red Alert head and b) Universe Inferno had no bio or tech spec to go from. If he'd been Prowl in Red Alert colors with a new Red Alert head and his bio said he was a paranoid security officer, I think the conversation about where he belonged would probably be longer. -[[User:LV|LV]] 18:15, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
Even if this is a last-minute substitution, it's a continuity in which he's never ''been'' Fireflight. Thus, in Aligned it's his original name.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|<sup>Talk</sup>]] 18:39, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:But then there ''has'' already been an Aligned Air Raid, who's been characterised and depicted completely differently... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 18:53, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's the source of my only real interest in this. If we had no idea what Air Raid was like in Aligned, whatevs. Smokescreen and Dreadwing and Hardshell are nothing like their previous versions either. But we know what Air Raid is like, and he's not like this. -[[User:LV|LV]] 19:01, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::That's what I was going to say. The toy doesn't really belong on "Air Raid (WFC)." However, we can't make up stuff and put him on "Fireflight (FOC)." Clearly, this toy is not this continuity's previously established Autobot named Air Raid who has Air Raid's G1 personality. This toy is a different Autobot named Air Raid with Fireflight's G1 personality. I think making a new "Air Raid (FOC)" page is in order while simultaneously shaking our heads wondering why Hasbro makes things complicated. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:17, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::As much as I would hate for there to be more than one Aligned dude with the same name, I'd have to begrudingly agree with the "Air Raid (FOC)" (or even an "Air Raid (Generations)" - since this particular Air Raid has yet to appear in any fiction outside his bio) idea since he's too different from the established "Air Raid (WFC)" guy. <br />
:::But, on the other hand, that would give others who are against the whole "WFC/FOC guys = Prime guys" ordeal of the Aligned continuity a doorway to argue that likes of WFC Breakdown and Prime Breakdown are different enough to coexist as individuals like the two Air Raids would, and would likely demand that there be separate articles for each and such, which would do more harm than good to how we've already got things going here. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:31, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::Doesn't the Movie Air Raid page have like four distinct designs on it? Why does a second one break Aligned Air Raid? (Aha. We split off the seeker one, so just three for Movie Air Raid.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:48, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:::I guess it's because none of the three non-Seeker Tyran Air Raids contradicted themselves in their bios (though, the ROTF one had no bio anyway, but I can't exactly speak for Takara DOTM Air Raid since I haven't read his bio, but I'm assuming there's no contradiction since he's included on that page with the others), whereas here we have a toy bio portrayal that conflicts with the existing video game portrayal, primarily since how the two portrayals are thought to be contemporaries of each other, in a continuity that seems to have no shared names between more than one character (as far as we have seen thus far).<br />
:::Although, here's a different thought. Even though this toy's packaging uses the FOC sub-label, suppose this guy ''isn't'' an Aligned character and could fall into a generic "Air Raid (Generations)" article like how we current have [[Ruination (Generations)|Ruination]], [[Topspin (Generations)|Topspin]], and [[Whirl (Generations)|Whirl]] at. I propose that, until we can get a more concrete answer as to what the deal of this toy's character is, we go for an "Air Raid (Generations)" disambiguation. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 21:20, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
:: For the time being, updated G1 Fireflight and this page to reflect the fact a redeco of the figure IS coming out as a Fireflight. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:51, 20 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768811Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-20T16:50:27Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
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:''Fireflight is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Aligned continuity family]].''<br />
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[[Image:GenerationsFOCFireflight.jpg|350px|thumb|That Autobot sigil on his chest seemed like a good idea at the time, but he forgot to check how it'd look in jet mode.]]<br />
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'''Fireflight''' is probably a [[Fireflight (G1)|daydreaming Aerialbot]].<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generations===<br />
*'''Fireflight''' (Deluxe, 2012?)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TG12'''<br />
:''Accessories'': Cannon/sword, sword/hilt<br />
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:Fireflight ''was'' to have been a [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron| Fall of Cybertron]] [[Shockwave (Prime)#Generations|Shockwave]], with a new head, chest, and weapons. Transforming into a cybertronic jet, he would have come with a sword that could be stored on top of the jet in vehicle mode, and a [[5mm post|hand-held]] cannon which can also transform into a sword, as well as form the fuselage of the vehicle. However, during [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2012, the toy that had previously been named Fireflight was re-named to [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] with no explanation. In Japan, a redeco of the toy is still being released in the United line, presumably as G1 Fireflight. <br />
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[[Category: Things that don't exist]]<br />
[[Category: Toy-only characters]]<br />
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{{disambig3|Fireflight}}<br />
:''Fireflight is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br />
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[[Image:DW G1Fireflight.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"Hey guys! I was off on a mission somewhere while you were fighting the [[Giant Purple Griffin]]. Hope that wasn't a problem!"]]<br />
'''Fireflight''' combines a childlike sense of wonder with the soul of a daydreamer, resulting, unfortunately, in one major menace to airborne navigation. Near collisions and crashes come fast and frequent when he's around. If Aerialbots had to be certified to take to the air he'd have been grounded for life long ago. Fireflight means well and has a good heart, he just can't help losing himself in the beauty of the world when seen from the sky. It's hard for his teammates to get too mad at someone so filled with wonder and innocence, but at the same time it's also hard to fly next to someone who's never paying any attention to where he's going.<br />
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Fireflight combines with his fellow [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] to form [[Superion (G1)|Superion]].<br />
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==Fiction==<br />
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br />
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br />
:''Voice actor:'' [[Jeff MacKay]] (English), [[Yoku Shioya]] (Japanese), [[Héctor Vieyra]] (Latin American) <br />
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At one point during the eternal war with the Autobots on Earth, [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] grew fed up with how his opponents ruled the roads and created a group of Decepticon cars known as the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]]. In order to give his new warriors life, he brought them to Cybertron and tracked down the ancient supercomputer, [[Vector Sigma]], to input cybernetic personalities into the Stunticons. Thanks to a series of traps and drones in their way, the Autobots failed to prevent Megatron from succeeding and returning to Earth. Seeking to even the playing field, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] conceived of the idea of retrofitting several broken-down Cybertronian ships into Earthly jets, and bringing them to life as a team of Autobot flyers. With the help of his tech-savvy soldiers, [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], and Prime's own creator, [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], Optimus's plan was enacted and the Aerialbots were born. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}<br />
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[[Image:Fireflightwardawn.jpg|thumb|200px|left|"No, I'm Fireflight. He's Air Raid. I'm the one who needs horse blinders to pay attention."]]<br />
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Because Optimus Prime specified to Vector Sigma that the Aerialbots be given personalities that required them to learn and grow, and make their own decisions, however, Fireflight and his friends were not instantly bound to the Autobot cause. Their sense of pride in their flying ability caused many of them to look down on the other Autobots. As the Aerialbots became impressed with the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]]' flight skills, their wide-eyed nature caused them to fall into a Decepticon trap. Turning the [[Kronosphere]] on the hapless Autobots, Megatron sent the Aerialbots back in time nine million years. Their journey led them to the earliest days of the war, and they personally saw Megatron maliciously gun down unarmed Cybertronians in his quest for power. Fireflight and the other Aerialbots returned to the present with an unshakeable commitment to seeing the Decepticon threat ended. {{storylink|War Dawn}}<br />
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Fireflight and the Aerialbots attended the coating ceremony for the Statue of Liberty, which was being covered with [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]'s new invention, [[Corrostop]], to prevent corrosion. Unfortunately, the Decepticons were just as interested in Perceptor's work, and the Stunticons arrived to kidnap him. Fireflight and the others chased the Stunticons aboard [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] all the way back to the Decepticons' undersea base, but were driven off by the [[Lightning Bug]]. This impressive heat ray zapped Fireflight's wing, and he had to pick up some replacement parts back at the Ark for repairs. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}<br />
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[[Image:CosmicRust Fireflight in trouble.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Okay, so mmmmmaybe carrying extra [[Fire-fog missile|firefog]] ammo into battle was a bad idea.]]<br />
Fireflight's spacey demeanor got his partners in trouble from time to time. As the Aerialbots were searching the Middle East for a squadron of stolen jets, Slingshot and Skydive found the jets being reprogrammed by Megatron and the Decepticons as a remote-controlled air force. The two Aerialbots summoned their fellow flyers, but while Silverbolt and Air Raid turned up quickly, Fireflight was lost out somewhere in the sands for a good portion of the battle with the [[Giant Purple Griffin]], leaving his teammates vulnerable and unable to combine and form Superion. Only after he finally got his head together and followed up on Skydive's signal did the Aerialbots manage to gain the upper hand. {{storylink|Aerial Assault}}<br />
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After the death of Megatron and the retaking of Cybertron, Fireflight and the Aerialbots became part of the Autobot Fleet. When [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]], [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] and Spike were kidnapped to [[Quintessa]], the rescue party alerted the Aerialbots to swoop by for covering fire and pick-up. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 2}} When the Quintessons destroyed their own planet to get at the Autobots, the resulting blast wave destroyed the Aerialbots' ship, sending Fireflight and the rest hurtling through space. Although they clearly survived, Skydive, Fireflight and Slingshot were not seen after the explosion. They eventually impacted on [[Goo 8739B]], and were rescued by [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] and the [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]]. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}}<br />
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{{Note|In the episode "[[Dark Awakening]]", several jets in the Autobot Fleet resembling the Aerialbots' alt modes were destroyed by the Quintessons. Repeatedly. Since the Aerialbots unquestionably survived the attack, it would seem their character models were merely used to build up the size of the fleet, and the casualty figures.}}<br />
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Before long, history repeated itself (literally) as Fireflight and the Aerialbots had another time travel adventure involving Alpha Trion, only this time it involved the ancient Autobot himself traveling into the present from the past, back from when he was merely A3. The Quintessons were experimenting with [[Time Window]] technology when Perceptor and a group of Autobots came across their work. Summoned for reinforcements, [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] arrived with Superion and the other Autobots to drive the Quintessons off the asteroid. As the time window was left open, a robot named A3 materialized on the asteroid. It wasn't until after the Quintessons convinced the Autobots that the window needed to be closed for the sake of the universe, and A3 returned to his own time, that Fireflight and the Aerialbots realized they had once again been in the presence of "the father of the Autobots". {{storylink|Forever Is a Long Time Coming}}<br />
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[[Image:Fireflightfightorflee.jpg|thumb|260px|left|Photo featuring Fireflight finding fireflies while flying.]]Once, Air Raid led the Decepticon duo of [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] into an asteroid field where Fireflight and his fellow Aerialbots were waiting to spring an ambush. The Aerialbots messed the Decepticons up pretty badly, especially after they transformed into Superion. Eventually, Fireflight and the others chased the Decepticons through a strange warp in space. This proceeded to have no consequences for [[Sandstorm (G1)|anyone]] [[Paradron|whatsoever]]. {{storylink|Fight or Flee}}<br />
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Fireflight and the Aerialbots were spending a relaxing day watching home movies on [[Teletraan II]] when things suddenly got serious, as the Autobots' computer off-handedly informed them [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] was never destroyed in his last battle with [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. When they tracked Trypticon to his new staging grounds, Fireflight and the Aerialbots launched from [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]], but the Decepticon presence in [[Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya|Carbombya]] was more than they had anticipated. The Aerialbots made a hasty retreat when confronted with overwhelming firepower, but soon returned with reinforcements and drove the Decepticons from Carbombya. {{storylink|Thief in the Night}}<br />
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During a battle in space, Fireflight and the Aerialbots may or may not have been present. Superion, at least, was surely there on the planet [[Eurythma]]...sometimes. {{storylink|Carnage in C-Minor}}<br />
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[[Image:Fireflightfightorflee2.jpg|thumb|220px|right|"Sensors have turned up evidence of a dot, sir. It appears to be a red one."]]<br />
After [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] took some hostile fire over the [[Junkion (planet)|planet of Junk]], Rodimus Prime dispatched Fireflight and the Aerialbots to investigate. They were caught in a crossfire between the brain-addled Junkions and the Quintessons, who were responsible for messing with the Junkions' air waves, and their minds. Even after becoming Superion, the Aerialbots took heavy fire and had to be brought back to [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] on Cybertron for repairs. {{storylink|The Big Broadcast of 2006 (episode)|The Big Broadcast of 2006}} Later, Fireflight and the Aerialbots were working with Rodimus Prime and Ultra Magnus in Europe to fend off the latest wave of Decepticon attacks. When Trypticon arrived, they played the bi-planes to his [[King Kong]]. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}<br />
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During the Decepticon invasion of Japan, the Aerialbots fought against [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] when he tried to derail a bullet train full of passengers. {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}} Sometime thereafter, Fireflight and the Aerialbots were recruited by Rodimus Prime to rescue the body of Optimus Prime from [[Gregory Swofford|Swofford]] and [[Mark Morgan|Morgan]]. Unfortunately, this only meant they were among the first Autobots exposed to the [[Hate Plague]]. Despite the madness induced by the red dust, the Aerialbots were apparently still willing to form Superion. Superion ran amok, causing serious property damage, infecting [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]], and taking several other Autobots out of action. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}<br />
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When the Decepticons invaded Cybertron searching for the [[Plasma Energy Chamber]], the Aerialbots tried to stop them. Unfortunately, they didn't reckon with [[Sixshot]]. Fireflight was knocked out of the sky when Sixshot turned into a winged wolf and tore his wings right off. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 1}} The [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] then took his [[power pack]] to use as fuel for the giant rocket engine they were constructing for [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}<br />
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====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic====<br />
When the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] confronted Menasor at a baseball stadium, Fireflight and the Aerialbots arrived as back-up. They formed Superion to engage Menasor and [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. After [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] was injured, Superion targeted the Decepticon combiners' legs, shaking them loose and giving the smaller Protectobots a chance to link up with the Decepticon gestalts and override control of their bodies. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #5}} After the Autobots discovered a utopia island paradise, it was besieged by Megatron and the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], who wanted to build an impregnable fortress. [[Kenji]] radioed for help, and Optimus Prime sent Fireflight and the Aerialbots to the rescue. As Superion they fought off [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] using their smarts to outthink the evil warriors. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 6|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #6}}<br />
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====''Scramble City'' cartoon====<br />
Fireflight and the Aerialbots were dispatched from the [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]] project by [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] to aid Optimus Prime in battle with the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] and [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. Their aerial firepower frankly overwhelmed the marauding Decepticons, and sent them home with their transistors between their struts. On his second attempt, Megatron sent the Stunticons, who were considerably more successful in engaging the Autobots. Damaged in jet modes, Fireflight and the Aerialbots chose instead to merge and form Superion. As Superion, they possessed scramble combining abilities, but so did the Stunticons when they formed Menasor. The Aerialbots were in the midst of reconfiguring their limb formation when Fireflight, being... well, a daydreaming idiot, mixed up whether he was supposed to be the right leg or the left. His indecision gave Menasor time to shoot him down, and [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]] assumed the place of Superion's right leg instead, corrupting his programming. Abashed by his boner, Fireflight teamed up with Optimus Prime to assault Menasor, and retook his place as Superion's limb. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}<br />
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====''The Great Transformer War'' comic====<br />
In 2010, Galvatron kidnapped Doctor [[Dalton (G1)|Dalton]] of [[Eran]] to utilize his skills and improve the Decepticons' combiner technology. Fireflight and the Aerialbots joined the Protectobots in assaulting Trypticon, in hopes of rescuing the hostage scientist. Fireflight and his team formed Superion for a first strike, but the Decepticon combiners countered with their deployment modes, launching the Stunticon and [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]] troops with enough force to tear Superion apart. The Protectobots stood guard over [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] as he performed battlefield triage on the Aerialbots in his repair bay mode, bringing them back on-line. Silverbolt then transformed into launcher mode and unleashed Fireflight and the Aerialbots in their own scramble attack, blinding Menasor and Bruticus long enough for the Autobots to escape safely with Dalton. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1|The Great Transformer War #1}}<br />
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====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====<br />
Fireflight and the Aerialbots were stationed at Autobot City on Earth in 2011. When Galvatron attacked Cybertron via the old [[Space Bridge]] network, the Aerialbots were summoned to Cybertron as reinforcements. They soon arrived with the [[Trainbot]]s and quickly joined the battle. Fireflight and his team formed Superion and battled [[Abominus (G1)|Abominus]] and Devastator. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} Later, the combined Aerialbots fought alongside [[Raiden]] and Defensor against the Decepticon combiners, and were nearly crushed when Bruticus collapsed a building on their position. They were bailed out by the arrival of the [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Battleship Maximus]]. When [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] began his search for the [[Matrix of Leadership]] on Earth, Fireflight and the Aerialbots returned to the humans' planet to assist him. They confronted the Stunticons in the desert, pitting Superion against Menasor yet again. The battle was so fierce it eventually carried them to the Arctic where Hot Rod was searching. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}}<br />
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Fireflight and his flying comrades joined the [[Triple Changer]]s in distracting the Decepticons long enough for [[Twincast]] to sneak inside Trypticon and gather data on the [[Madmachine]]. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}} Sometime later, Fireflight and the Aerialbots were on a research vessel that passed near a [[Metamorphose|strange meteorite]]. The meteorite had been altered by Galvatron to produce magnetic warping waves whenever it detected metal, and so it sent the Aerialbots and their ship twisting through space. Although the Decepticons tried to intervene, the Autobots eventually recovered Fireflight and his injured colleagues. {{storylink|Approach of the Demon Meteorite}}<br />
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Following a lengthy repair cycle, Fireflight and the Aerialbots were ready for action when Galvatron and the Decepticons laid siege to Cybertron one last time. Transporting to Cybertron from Earth, they raced into battle (on foot, for some reason). Fireflight and the team got the drop on the Stunticons when they merged into Superion, smashing and scattering the 'Cons before they could form Menasor. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} As the fighting continued, the Aerialbots battled Abominus as Superion and later separated to trade blaster fire with the Stunticons. The warring only came to an end once [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s bombs blew up [[Vector Sigma]] and annihilated the planet.{{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}}<br />
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When [[buridanka|a giant carnivorous plant]] attacked [[San Francisco]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] dispatched Fireflight and the Aerialbots to combat it. Although they made frequent bombing runs on the organism, the Aerialbots were unable to stop it. Only the arrival of [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress]] and his powerful giant [[Transtector]] brought an end to the creature's rampage. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}} Fireflight and the Aerialbots were part of a strike team that flew to the [[Moon (moon)|moon]] to disrupt Scorponok's gathering of Decepticons. They immediately formed Superion upon entering the battle. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}}<br />
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When one of Scorponok's Death Towers emerged in Washington D.C., Fireflight and the Aerialbots were dispatched to investigate it. As part of Superion, Fireflight participated in the Autobots final battle with Scorponok's Decepticons at the North Pole. He lent his energies to the Headmasters' [[Head Formation]] to revitalize Fortress Maximus at the critical moment. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}<br />
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===Marvel Comics continuity===<br />
====Generation 1====<br />
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''Thanks to his previous connection to the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]], [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] began experiencing dreams and visions of new Transformers, beginning with an etching of Superion he made without even being consciously aware of it. {{storylink|Devastation Derby!}} By sharing his visions with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], Buster was able to clarify the images and understand the future of the evolution of the Cybertronian race—amalgam model robots like the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]' [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], capable of a more-streamlined merging into a more powerful form. It was these visions which allowed Optimus Prime and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] to conceive of and construct the Aerialbots. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}''<br />
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Working on a plan to reverse engineer the gestalt technology the Decepticons had used to create Devastator, Optimus Prime and the Autobots staged a daring raid on the Decepticon base of operations, giving [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] enough time to digitally record the Constructicons' electrical transformation pattern for study. {{storylink|Command Performances!}} Working off that blueprint, Wheeljack successfully created Fireflight and the Aerialbots. During the new warriors' testing phase, however, the Autobots were alerted to a Decepticon operation at Hoover Dam. Only the Aerialbots were fast enough to reach the location in time, and so Prime was forced to send them into battle before their programming was completed.<br />
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The unfinished programming quickly proved to be an issue, however—only [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] had received the personality directives that made human safety a top priority. When Fireflight's dogfighting with [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] very nearly caused a deadly avalanche, the Aerialbot leader needed to directly order Fireflight to blast the rocks with his [[fire-fog missile]]s before anyone was killed.<br />
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The Aerialbots eventually turned the tide on the Decepticons and drove them off, giving them time to focus on the energy siphon which was the core of the problem. At Silverbolt's command, they merged into Superion and began dismantling the drill device. A problem arose, however, when [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]'s [[cerebro-shell]] controlled pawn [[Ricky Vasquez]] pointed [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] (in his gun mode) at the giant Autobot. Because the majority of the Aerialbots were not programmed specifically to protect human life, Superion only saw a potential threat that needed to be eliminated. As the human fought against the Decepticons' control, Silverbolt too fought inside Superion's gestalt mind to protect the human. In the end, Silverbolt was forced to disengage Superion to keep him from destroying the human. Luckily, Ricky was more successful and managed to break the cerebro-shell's hold long enough to point Megatron at the drill and destroy it, ending the threat. {{storylink|Aerialbots over America!}}<br />
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After the near disaster at Hoover Dam, Optimus Prime had the Aerialbots shut down and their programming completely erased. Returned to a blank slate, he then inputed fully-programmed personalities for them with the Matrix before their next mission. It, uh...didn't help. In battle with [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] as Superion, the Aerialbots were attacked by [[Circuit Breaker]], deactivated, and captured by [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. It was only a lucky break that they were eventually freed. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br />
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As [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] took over the Autobots, Fireflight and the other Aerialbots took an extended leave of absence from the war, since the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] commander focused Autobot resources on repairing their fallen comrades and prepping the Ark to become spaceworthy again.<br />
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Sometime later, it was Fireflight, [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]], [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] who were the first to respond to a distress call from Buster Witwicky, the Autobots' old human ally who had been prisoner to the Decepticons for nearly a year. This led the combined Autobot and Decepticon forces into battle with [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], who had acquired the nigh-infinite power of the [[Underbase]] for himself. The Aerialbots were his first victims, wiped out in a single blast of cosmic power in the skies over New York City. {{storylink|Dark Star}}<br />
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Along with the other deactivated Autobots aboard the Ark, Fireflight and the Aerialbots were eventually revived by the [[Nucleon]] super-energy Grimlock and the Dinobots recovered from [[Hydrus Four]].<br />
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=====Earthforce=====<br />
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''Fireflight was present with the entire Earthforce team outside Autobot Earthbase when [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] unveiled his brand-new unbreachable defensive system. This was unfortunate, as Wheeljack had forgotten that, once activated, the system could only be turned off from the inside. [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] elected to run the gauntlet and reach the shutdown console inside, and the Aerialbots provided air support for him. Fireflight and his buddies gunned down the [[Acid Bat]]s at the entryway, giving Prowl his chance to get through. {{storylink|The House that Wheeljack Built!}}''<br />
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{{note|Unlike the rest of Earthforce, the return of the Aerialbots (besides Silverbolt) was never explained on panel. Presumably, Wheeljack rebuilt them in the Bodyshop much like he did for [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]].}}<br />
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====Generation 2====<br />
After the defeat of [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and his Decepticons on [[Klo]], the Autobots split into smaller combat units throughout the universe. Once Optimus Prime and Grimlock learned of the threat posed by the second generation [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian army]], though, the Autobot forces reconsolidated under their command. Fireflight and the other Aerialbots were first seen after the Autobots had retreated to an asteroid sanctuary for retraining. They were, um, outsmarted by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]. {{storylink|The Power and the Glory}}<br />
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Later on, Fireflight was fighting with his fellow Aerialbots in the skies of [[Ethos]], defending the planet against genocide by the [[Ethos raiding party|Cybertronian forces]]. Even Skydive's battle plans weren't doing any good, however, and Fireflight was about to give up the fight when the cavalry arrived, in the form of the Decepticon [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] and [[Rotor Force]]. {{storylink|Escalation!}} The Autobot/Decepticon alliance soon stood against the Cybertronians at Autobase on Earth. Fireflight was seen working a one-two combo with [[Slag (G1)|Slag]]—he'd knock jets out of the sky, and the Dinobot would roast 'em when they hit the ground. {{storylink|Total War!}}<br />
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===<br />
At some point in Cybertronian history, roughly around the time of the [[Dark Ages]], Fireflight and his Aerialbot comrades became a combiner subgroup, able to merge to form Superion. Because Superion and his fellow super-robots began causing too much sheer devastation during the war, however, the [[Crisis Intervention Accord]]s were signed by the various factions, prohibiting the use of super-robots. Combiner sub-group members could either join different factions separately (like [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]) or remain together as a neutral, unaligned group (like the Protectobots). What Slingshot and the Aerialbots chose to do is unknown. {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages}}<br />
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At some point in the late 20th century, Fireflight and the Aerialbots joined the crew of the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' in fighting the Decepticons on Earth. and his comrades fought alongside Optimus Prime and his crew until [[Operation Liberation]] eliminated the Decepticon threat in 1999. Tragically, they and the rest of the Autobots were believed destroyed following the explosion of the [[Ark II]], though in reality the ship was sabotaged by the rogue engineer-turned arms dealer Adam Rook, known as [[Lazarus]], and General [[Robert Hallo]], who planned on reprogramming the Transformers into the service of the United States military. The Aerialbots were some of the few Transformers who were not recovered by Lazarus for his reprogramming venture, now aimed at hiring out the Transformers to the highest bidder. Instead, they lay immobile in the Arctic waters until reactivated as Superion in 2002 by Optimus Prime, using the power of the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 2|Prime Directive #2}} <br />
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Fireflight and the Aerialbots in their Superion form, battled the Decepticons in the Northwest Territories of [[Canada]] {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 3|Prime Directive #3}} and again in [[San Francisco]]. However, during the initial skirmish, Superion was broken down into his individual components by the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]], giving the Decepticons an advantage. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 4|Prime Directive #4}} When Megatron failed to convince Optimus Prime to join his cause, Silverbolt and his team were freed and eventually reunified in order to intercept a nuclear missile (launched by General Hallo) headed for the California coastline. Superion, and by extension the Aerialbots, were destroyed in stopping the missile. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 6|Prime Directive #6}}<br />
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Their remains were collected secretly by [[Earth Defense Command]] and held in Area 51. {{storylink|Generation 1 issue 0|Generation 1 #0}}<br />
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===IDW comics continuity===<br />
Early in the war, the Aerialbots responded to Optimus' rallying call for additional support against the Decepticons and fought against the Seekers in the battle that followed. {{storylink|Broadcast}}<br />
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Thousands of years later, Fireflight was among the Autobots poised to fight against [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]'s army on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Led by [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], he and the other Autobot fliers attacked [[Kimia Facility]] and fought with the many [[Sweep]]s defending it. {{storylink|Chaos Part Two: Numbers}} Fireflight and his fellow Aerialbots worked crowd control on the Decepticons after Ratbat was murdered. He later followed Silverbolt's lead along with the rest of the Aerialbots in deserting Bumblebee's fledgling government. {{storylink|Stick Together}}<br />
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{{note|According to Roberts in an online interview Fireflight was intending to join the crew of the [[Lost Light]] during the events of More Than Meets The Eye #1 but was talked out of it at the last minute by "someone with a vested interest." <ref> http://www.craveonline.com/comics/interviews/182693-james-roberts-and-the-transformers-renaissance</ref> }}<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
* '''Fireflight''' (Aerialbot, 1986)<br />
**''Team ID number:'' '''A3'''<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-52'''<br />
**''Accessories'': "[[Photon displacer gun]]"<br />
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: Fireflight transformed into a red F-4 Phantom II with white wings. He could combine with his fellow Aerialbots to form Superion. As a [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style combiner, he could form the arm or leg of Superion, or any other compatible combiner, though his nominal location was as Superion's right arm.<br />
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: Fireflight was available as a European Classics toy in 1990. At around this time he was offered as a mail away by the Weetabix Breakfast Cereal in the UK. [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] [[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] was available in the same offer.<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Fireflight/fireflight.htm More information on Fireflight at TFU.info]''<br />
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*'''Superion''' (Multi-pack, 1986)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-55'''<br />
**''Accessories'': "Photon displacer gun"<br />
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: Fireflight was available by himself or as part of the Superion giftset.<br />
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===Generation 2===<br />
* '''Fireflight''' (Aerialbot, 1994)<br />
**''Team ID number:'' '''A3'''<br />
**''Accessories'':<br />
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:One of the few actual [[repaint]]s of the line, Fireflight retains the same colors as his G1 predecessor, but features more silver paint (primarily on the chest), an Autobot tampograph and different stickers.<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1994/Autobot/Fireflight/fireflight.htm More information on ''Generation 2'' Fireflight at TFU.info]''<br />
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===Classics===<br />
[[Image:Classics2006 Legends Fireflight.JPG|right|300px|thumb|]]<br />
* '''Fireflight''' (Legends, 2006)<br />
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:Fireflight is a red and beige [[redeco]] of [[Legends Class|Legends of Cybertron]] [[Jetfire (Armada)#LOC|Jetfire]], transforming into a cargo plane. In his plane form, the tail section can be swiveled up to form an attack mode. He was going to be named [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]], but the [[trademark]] was unavailable, so his name and identity were changed.<br />
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:The [[redeco]] was also once conceived as [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]], but there was too much white already in the toyline, thus it was changed to Powerglide, and then Fireflight. Identity crisis, anyone?<br />
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:This mold was also used to make ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)#Classic Series|Skydive]].<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Autobot/ClassicsFireflight/fireflight.htm More information on ''Classics'' Fireflight at TFU.info]''<br />
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{{-}}<br />
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===Universe (2008)===<br />
====G1 Series====<br />
[[Image:Universe2008 Fireflight.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]<br />
*'''Superion''' (Multi-pack, 2008)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Shield/double-cannon, Autobot-type [[energon star]]<br />
<br />
:Available only as a component of ''Universe'' Superion, this version of Fireflight is a dark brown and grey redeco of the ''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Sky Shadow (Energon)|Sky Shadow]]/[[Terradive (Energon)|Terradive]] mold, transforming into an A-10 "Thunderbolt" plane. He can also form a leg or arm to any ''Energon''-series "[[Powerlinx]] [[Combiner]]" super robot, though his nominal placement is as the right leg to Superion. He comes with a shield/double cannon that can become a footplate or "hand" for his combined mode, plus a blue "super energon" Autobot-style energon star that fits over his [[spark crystal]]. <br />
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:He shares his mold with fellow Superion pack-mate [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]]. <br />
<br />
:Fireflight was first released, along with the others in this box set, in [[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|2008 ''Universe'']] packaging in Australia and Singapore. The set was later released as a Target-[[exclusive]] set in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Superion (ROTF)|Superion]] packaging for North America. Thus, this toy doubles as [[live-action film series|live-action continuity]] [[Fireflight (ROTF)|Fireflight]].<br />
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:This mold was also used to make [[Fun Publications]] [[Transformers Collectors' Club]]-[[exclusive]] ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Skyfall (Cybertron)|Skyfall]].<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Fireflight/fireflight.htm More information on Fireflight at TFU.info]''<br />
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===United===<br />
<br />
*'''Fireflight''' (Deluxe, 2012?)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TG12'''<br />
:''Accessories'': Cannon/sword, sword/hilt<br />
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:United Fireflight a [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron| Fall of Cybertron]] [[Shockwave (Prime)#Generations|Shockwave]], with a new head, chest, and weapons. Transforming into a cybertronic jet, he would have come with a sword that could be stored on top of the jet in vehicle mode, and a [[5mm post|hand-held]] cannon which can also transform into a sword, as well as form the fuselage of the vehicle. The Hasbro release of the retooled mold (with a different deco but with similar colors) was originally solicited as [[Fireflight (FOC)|Fireflight]], but was re-named to [[Air Raid (WFC)|Air Raid]] with no explanation.<br />
{{--}}<br />
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==Notes==<br />
===Foreign names===<br />
*''Japanese:'' '''Firebolt''' (ファイアボルト ''Faiaboruto'')<br />
*''French:'' '''Boule de Feu''' (Canada, "Fireball")<br />
*''Italian:'' '''Optor'''<br />
*''Mandarin:'' '''Fei Huo''' （China, 飞火, "Flying Fire"）<br />
*''Russian:'' '''Ognemjot''' (Огнемёт, "Flame Thrower")<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Fireflight Fireflight's ''Universe'' profile at NFTA.net]<br />
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[[Category:Aerialbots]]<br />
[[Category:Classics Autobots]]<br />
[[Category:Combiners]]<br />
[[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]<br />
[[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]<br />
[[Category:Mail order items]]<br />
[[Category:Reconnaissance specialists]]<br />
[[Category:The Headmasters Autobots]]<br />
[[Category:Universe (2008)]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768166Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-15T16:25:36Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Un-Canceled? */</p>
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<div>== Detour ==<br />
Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
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== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that. Not positive how to best reflect that the Japanese release (with a different deco) is still on, but the US release is renamed Air Raid... obviously the picture should change, though. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:24, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::The thing is, if Takara's handling of United's FOC stuff follows their handling of the WFC stuff, that won't be Fireflight (FOC), it'll be a new toy of Fireflight (G1). So moving on that front is a little premature. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:00, 15 November 2012 (EST)<br />
::: Good point. But... some mention of it should be made. Either here or on the G1 Fireflight page.[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 11:25, 15 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768153Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-15T14:47:26Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Un-Canceled? */</p>
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<div>== Detour ==<br />
Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
<br />
== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that. Not positive how to best reflect that the Japanese release (with a different deco) is still on, but the US release is renamed Air Raid... obviously the picture should change, though. [[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:24, 15 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Air_Raid_(WFC)&diff=768150Air Raid (WFC)2012-11-15T14:33:11Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Notes */</p>
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<div>{{faction|autobot}}<br />
{{disambig3|Air Raid}}<br />
:''Air Raid is an Autobot from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''<br />
[[Image:WFCAirRaid.jpg|thumb|300px|Now equipped with shoulder mounted ovens.]]<br />
'''Air Raid''' is a headstrong member of the [[Aerialbot (Prime)|Aerialbot]]s who would rather fly into a group of Decepticons instead of gunning them from afar because it's more fun. This attitude often puts him and his comrades in danger, though he almost as often tends to get them out of it.<br />
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==Games==<br />
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (360/PS3/PC)===<br />
:''Voice actor:'' [[Liam O'Brien]] (English), [[Alberto Oliviero]] (Italian)<br />
<br />
During the Decepticons' assault on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], Air Raid and [[Jetfire (WFC)|Jetfire]] assisted [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus]] by fighting off hordes of aerial Decepticons. As part of Optimus's plan to rescue [[Sentinel Zeta Prime|Zeta Prime]] from imprisonment, he and some other Autobots allowed themselves to be captured and taken to [[Kaon]]. Just as they were about to be "recycled", Air Raid appeared outside the prison cell and destroyed their would-be executioners. However, after freeing Optimus' team, he was captured. Optimus, [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]], and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] fought their way through the prison and managed to rescue Air Raid, who helped them stage a prison break for all the Autobots detained in the facility, and showed the way to [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]]'s lab, where Zeta Prime was being held. While Optimus' team rescued Zeta, Air Raid led his fellow Autobots back home to Iacon.<br />
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When [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] began turning his orbital station's cannon on the Autobot position, Air Raid joined Jetfire and [[Silverbolt (WFC)|Silverbolt]] in assaulting the space gun directly. Air Raid had previously been reluctant to follow the acrophobic Silverbolt as Aerialbot leader, and saw himself as a better choice. When the majority of Silverbolt's battle strategies inside the station centered around "Shoot the Decepticons and blow some slag up", though, Air Raid thought better of his appointed leader. As they continued their internal sabotage of the gun, the Aerialbots were suddenly shocked when the gun started ''taunting'' them — it seemed Megatron had incorporated a Cybertronian entity known as [[Trypticon (Prime)|Trypticon]] into the platform's core, giving it a malevolent sentience all its own. It was Air Raid who realized if Trypticon was a Transformer, he'd also have a [[transformation cog|conversion cog]]. Blasting that would revert him back to his primary mode, and stop the bombardments. The Aerialbots destroyed Trypticon's cog just before he got a target lock on Optimus Prime's position, and the newly-transformed giant fell down to the planet below.<br />
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Air Raid and the Aerialbots provided air support for Optimus and the Autobot troops on the ground during their struggle with the monster after he hit Cybertron. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)}}<br />
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Air Raid's default weapon is the Scatter Blaster, which is best suited for close quarters, so picking up a medium-long ranged weapon like the Neutron assault rifle is advised. His abilities are whirlwind, a spinning melee attack, and cloak.<br />
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===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (DS)===<br />
:''Voice actor:'' Liam O'Brien (English)<br />
During the Great War, Air Raid acted as a trainer for [[Autobot rookie|new recruits]], leading them around a course and instructing them in basic combat. After sparring with the Autobots atop a building in Iacon City, Air Raid was happy to follow Optimus into battle. <br />
{{Note|Air Raid is an unlockable character for the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Nintendo DS version of ''War for Cybertron'']] and can replace any of the other characters on the Autobot team. Air Raid can be unlocked by defeating him in the Streets 6 Arena level.}}<br />
{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)}}<br />
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===''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures''===<br />
<br />
When Bumblebee and Ironhide escaped from Kaon prison, Air Raid was on hand to provide air support as they blasted their way outta town. He used his missile system to clear the roads so they could make their way safely back to Iacon.<br />
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Later, Air Raid volunteered for a mission using the intel Ironhide and Bumblebee had recovered from Kaon. The Decepticons controlled a series of tunnels around the Core, feeding power between Trypticon and the Geosynchronous Energon Bridge. With Ironhide directing him on comms, Air Raid flew into the underground tunnels to access the bridge and take it off-line. He made his way through the security station, but attracted a lot of attention in the process, and had to take a new path to escape further underground. Closer to the Core, he fought his way through giant, worm-like creatures before getting back on the path to the Bridge. The final barriers before the Bridge were heavily guarded by a Destroyer and multiple troops, but Air Raid blasted his way through and cut power to the Bridge.<br />
<br />
As the Autobots prepared to evacuate Cybertron, the Decepticons attempted to destroy their supply lines and bring down their transport ships. During one launch, Thundercracker and Skywarp commenced strafing and bombing of the Autobot position, so Optimus Prime dispatched Air Raid and Jetfire to hold off the Seekers. Air Raid prevented Thundercracker from setting off a series of explosives, and then he and Jetfire drove off the Seekers. Unfortunately, the Decepticons managed to get Trypticon back on-line, and the orbital station started taking potshots at the Autobots from the sky. Air Raid and the Aerialbots took to the air, shooting up the energon relay stations that fed power to Trypticon.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately, once Trypticon Station fell to earth, it revealed itself as a massive Transformer, laying waste to Cybertron. As Optimus Prime coordinated the attack from the ground, Air Raid fought from the air until Trypticon finally went down, and the war continued for another day. {{storylink|Transformers: Cybertron Adventures}}<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generations===<br />
[[Image:GenerationsFOCFireflight.jpg|350px|thumb|That Autobot sigil on his chest seemed like a good idea at the time, but he forgot to check how it'd look in jet mode.]]<br />
*'''Air Raid''' (Deluxe, 2012?)<br />
:''Accessories'': Cannon/sword, sword/hilt<br />
<br />
:Air Raid is a [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron| Fall of Cybertron]] [[Shockwave (Prime)#Generations|Shockwave]], with a new head, chest, and weapons. Transforming into a cybertronic jet, he comes with a sword that can be stored on top of the jet in vehicle mode, and a [[5mm post|hand-held]] cannon which can also transform into a sword, as well as form the fuselage of the vehicle. The two weapons can be stored on his robot back, and are capable of combining into a large blade, with the smaller sword splitting open and forming the hilt.<br />
<br />
: This toy was originally solicited as [[Fireflight (FOC)|Fireflight]] when on display at [[BotCon 2012]].<br />
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{{comingsoontoy}}<br />
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==Notes==<br />
* Air Raid's model is usable in ''War for Cybertron'' multiplayer as the Skyraider-type chassis for [[Scientist (WFC)|Scientist]]-class characters. His parts are also available to Scientists in ''Fall of Cybertron'', now classified as Protector-type components.<br />
* Air Raid's toy's bio, being a daydreaming Autobot who is constantly distracted by his surroundings is clearly based on [[Fireflight (G1)|G1 Fireflight,]] reflecting the toy's original name. <br />
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[[Category:Aerialbots]]<br />
[[Category:Generations]]<br />
[[Category:War for Cybertron Autobots]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768146Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-15T14:24:54Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Un-Canceled? */</p>
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<div>== Detour ==<br />
Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
<br />
== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that.[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 09:24, 15 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Fireflight_(FOC)&diff=768144Talk:Fireflight (FOC)2012-11-15T14:23:49Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Un-Canceled? */</p>
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<div>== Detour ==<br />
Sorry, forgot that generations was the toyline that the WFC toys were in.<br />
<br />
== Un-Canceled? ==<br />
Just saw him listed in the 2013 Generations FOC wave 1 set on TFSource. So I take he's not canceled or are they mistaken? [[User:Helli0n|Helli0n]] 21:56, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: ''Prime'' Kup was solicited as Ironhide up until his actual release. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:21, 18 September 2012 (EDT)<br />
: The Japanese version is definitely going to be Fireflight... the page should probably be updated to reflect that.</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Soundwave_(WFC)&diff=766398Talk:Soundwave (WFC)2012-11-05T20:19:38Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Soundwave's blasters */</p>
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<div>== Triple Changer? ==<br />
<br />
Ok, we all know that Soundwave can transform into a Spy Rig-class Cybertronian truck, right? Well, right before his boss fight against Optimus and his team, he is briefly seen in the form of a Cybertronian device similar to a tapedeck, much like his original G1 counterpart's Earth mode. Does this mean he's a Triple Changer or is that just an interface mode like when you use the mounted turrets? --[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 21:19, 4 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
:As per our standards, we do not classify anyone as a "Triple Changer" (proper noun) unless they are specifically labeled as such. Lots of TFs have third modes who are not Triple Changers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:31, 4 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
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== Toy Image ==<br />
<br />
I'm not going to switch out the caption just 'cause I feel like it, but every time I look at the image, all I can think of is, "BECAUSE YOU ARE HEADCRAB SOUNDWAVE!"--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 19:09, 15 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
<br />
==Cybertron Adventures==<br />
<br />
Soundwave discovers that the Autobots have infiltrated the Datacore. Megatron sends him and Barricade to take care of the intrusion. The two speed out, and Soundwave must navigate a highway overgrown with Dark Energon crystals while dealing with swarms of Aerialbots before they can shut off access to the Datacore. An Autobot Destroyer blocks Soundwave's path and brings the roof down, forcing him to take an alternate route. he makes his way to a security station and downloads the information on the Autobots' advance, radioing Barricade to meet him at the assigned coordinates. When Soundwave arrives, though, he finds Barricade in the middle of a shooting gallery. The Autobots are soon joined by an aerial Destroyer, but the pair make short work of it. Soundwave intercepts a data download but cuts it off quickly, and races to intercept the escaping Autobots. Weaving his way through Dark Energon crystals and moving walls (huh?), he reaches the intercept point in time, causing Ironhide and Bumblebee to skid out of control... and right into a fusion blast from Megatron.<br />
This is here because I cant figure out how to put this on the page-- [[<noinclude>User:</noinclude>Kuptrion]]<br />
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== Other Figures ==<br />
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Doesn't WFC Soundwave have an RPM figure and a Stealth Force figure? --[[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 4 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
:I'm pretty sure that RPMs and Stealth Force are exclusive to the movie universe. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:14, 4 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
::Hm, they used his Video game robot mode, and Inferno appears to be from the Classics Universe. Gah, the 2010 line is all screwed up. -- [[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 00:07, 5 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
:::I'd say the Stealth Force figure is the movie guy, even though he has the WFC robot mode and the Animated vehicle mode. His bio talks about how he used to be a satellite and how he's just come down to Earth for the first time. That points to movie continuity to me. (Meanwhile, Stealth Force Silverstreak and Hound are clearly the G1 guys.) ((This should probably go on the Stealth Force page.)) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:48, 5 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
::::Well, given how the RPM/Speed Stars image at the bottom, and the package photography on the Stealth Force toy all represent WFC Soundwave... I'd say they're toys of this Soundwave and not ROTF Soundwave. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:23, 9 October 2010 (EDT)<br />
:::::You're well late, it's discussed on [[Soundwave (ROTF)]]. Still, what with [[repurposing]], we can discuss it here too. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:37, 9 October 2010 (EDT)<br />
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What about the new Legion Class Soundwave. Mold wise it's clearly DOTM Soundwave, but the packaging is for the Prime line with his Prime Bio on the back. [[User:helli0n|helli0n]] 21:27, 6 June 2012 (EDT)<br />
:I don't know much about the bio on the back but the front of the packaging omits the Prime name just like it does for Mirage and Evac. They wouldn't leave them out if they were blatantly meant to be Prime toys. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:45, 10 June 2012 (EDT)<br />
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== Voice Actor ==<br />
<br />
If he doesn't have one then there's no point having it there. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 11:29, 29 November 2010 (EST)<br />
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== Quote ==<br />
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Could we not consider Starscream and Knock Out's exchane in Sick Mind for Soundwave's main quote? It fits with Soundwave's role as... well, the eyes and ears of the Decepticons, as the spy.<br />
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"That blasted Soundwave sees and hears everything."<br />
"The eyes and ears of the Decepticons." {{unsigned|72.190.7.46}}<br />
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==toy picture==<br />
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It's here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/<br />
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It's "reining in", you guys. You ''rein in'' a horse. Reigning is something a monarch does.<br />
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==Shockwave (DOTM)==<br />
<br />
Soundwave (Prime) is silent, he doesn't show any signs of sentience when someones talks to him, except moving his head to say no or yes, he just stands and watches.<br />
He's apparently dangerous : Airachnid seems to have given the autobots the hell of a run in previous episodes, and he owned her.<br />
Shockwave in the movie : the same. ( well apparently in prequel comics he kills and kills and kills. )<br />
Should we point the similarity in the Notes ? Is it on purpose that two of the most popular characters EVER bear similarities or is it a coincidence ? [[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]]<br />
:Well... no. "Soundwave doesn't speak, just like Shockwave in the Dark Of The Moon movie" is really not a noteworthy thing. There's lots of Transformers who don't speak. That doesn't make them identical/homages/noteworthingly similar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 18 February 2012 (EST)<br />
: Decepticons who don't speak in the live-action movies are a dime a dozen. I suppose we could also note that Soundwave (Prime) is just like Movie Blackout, Bonecrusher, Ravage, Scorponok, all seven/eight/nine Constructicons, Sideways, all the protoform warriors, Crowbar, Crankcase, Hatchet... but at that point we're just being friggin' ridiculous, wouldn't you say? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:13, 18 February 2012 (EST)<br />
::Bonecrusher, Demolishor, Mixmaster and Rampage did speak.--[[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 23:04, 22 February 2012 (EST)<br />
:::That is not the point. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:55, 22 February 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Season 2 ==<br />
Is it true that Soundwave is going to start talking in season 2 of ''Prime''?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.102.155|71.162.102.155]] 23:11, 23 February 2012 (EST)<br />
:Well is he?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 16:33, 1 March 2012 (EST)<br />
::You know as much about it as we do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:59, 1 March 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Go-Box ==<br />
<br />
His Go-Box as it appears on message boards etc [http://tfwiki.net/goboxes/SoundwavePrime.png is blank]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:50, 8 March 2012 (EST)<br />
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== Noticed on the deluxe toy ==<br />
<br />
The paint apps on the nose of the vehicle mode look an awful lot like eyes, and the heels of the robot mode feet hinge just under it like a beak. In a sense, his vehicle mode seems to be at least a visual homage to Laserbeak, since Prime Laserbeak looks more like a bat than anything. Worth noting in trivia? --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 16:38, 11 March 2012 (EDT)<br />
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:No, that's just a coincidence. (and really, he doesn't look anything like Laserbeak.)--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 09:57, 12 March 2012 (EDT)<br />
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== "Canons" ==<br />
<br />
Someone might want to go correct that in the Prime toy's mention of the Takara release.<br />
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== Soundblaster ==<br />
<br />
Should'nt we add the Soundblaster and Buzzsaw repaint of the Fall of Cybertron Soundwave toy to the page?<br />
<br />
== RID Soundwave's arms ==<br />
<br />
I just got a deluxe Soundwave the other day, and noticed that mine has an... ''interesting'' use of plastic in the parts of the arms that fold out with the hands on them: On his right arm, this piece is cast in a slightly flexible, but still rigid, plastic (''a la'' Wheeljack's swords), yet on the left arm, it's that annoying soft plastic. Did I get a factory reject, or is this a common curiosity? If all (or even multiple) figures have them, I think it ought to be mentioned on the page.<br />
:- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]</sup> 02:15, 2 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:Managed to compare my Hasbro and TakaraTomy Soundwaves. The Hasbro version features slightly more rigid a plastic head, arms, tail-fins, nose, and Laserbeak wings, while the TakaraTomy version has soft rubbery ones. Interesting. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 06:59, 2 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
::Mine's the Hasbro version. The nose and heels are soft, but they're just in between the two arms in terms of harness, whereas the head seems to match the right arm. The left arm is just weird, though. It's the only part that's made of a plastic ''that soft''. This isn't something that one would have to compare two figures to notice. It's blatantly (and painfully) obvious.<br />
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]</sup> 23:58, 2 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Soundwave's blasters ==<br />
<br />
Should something be added about FoC Soundwave's handheld blaster? It's identical to G1 Prime's Ion Blaster, although it was omitted in the first run of FOC Soundwaves released in Australia (possibly all of them, but we don't know for sure)?[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 15:19, 5 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Soundwave_(WFC)&diff=766397Talk:Soundwave (WFC)2012-11-05T20:19:08Z<p>Larkmarn: /* RID Soundwave's arms */</p>
<hr />
<div>== Triple Changer? ==<br />
<br />
Ok, we all know that Soundwave can transform into a Spy Rig-class Cybertronian truck, right? Well, right before his boss fight against Optimus and his team, he is briefly seen in the form of a Cybertronian device similar to a tapedeck, much like his original G1 counterpart's Earth mode. Does this mean he's a Triple Changer or is that just an interface mode like when you use the mounted turrets? --[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 21:19, 4 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
:As per our standards, we do not classify anyone as a "Triple Changer" (proper noun) unless they are specifically labeled as such. Lots of TFs have third modes who are not Triple Changers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:31, 4 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Toy Image ==<br />
<br />
I'm not going to switch out the caption just 'cause I feel like it, but every time I look at the image, all I can think of is, "BECAUSE YOU ARE HEADCRAB SOUNDWAVE!"--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 19:09, 15 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
<br />
==Cybertron Adventures==<br />
<br />
Soundwave discovers that the Autobots have infiltrated the Datacore. Megatron sends him and Barricade to take care of the intrusion. The two speed out, and Soundwave must navigate a highway overgrown with Dark Energon crystals while dealing with swarms of Aerialbots before they can shut off access to the Datacore. An Autobot Destroyer blocks Soundwave's path and brings the roof down, forcing him to take an alternate route. he makes his way to a security station and downloads the information on the Autobots' advance, radioing Barricade to meet him at the assigned coordinates. When Soundwave arrives, though, he finds Barricade in the middle of a shooting gallery. The Autobots are soon joined by an aerial Destroyer, but the pair make short work of it. Soundwave intercepts a data download but cuts it off quickly, and races to intercept the escaping Autobots. Weaving his way through Dark Energon crystals and moving walls (huh?), he reaches the intercept point in time, causing Ironhide and Bumblebee to skid out of control... and right into a fusion blast from Megatron.<br />
This is here because I cant figure out how to put this on the page-- [[<noinclude>User:</noinclude>Kuptrion]]<br />
<br />
== Other Figures ==<br />
<br />
Doesn't WFC Soundwave have an RPM figure and a Stealth Force figure? --[[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 4 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
:I'm pretty sure that RPMs and Stealth Force are exclusive to the movie universe. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:14, 4 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
::Hm, they used his Video game robot mode, and Inferno appears to be from the Classics Universe. Gah, the 2010 line is all screwed up. -- [[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 00:07, 5 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
:::I'd say the Stealth Force figure is the movie guy, even though he has the WFC robot mode and the Animated vehicle mode. His bio talks about how he used to be a satellite and how he's just come down to Earth for the first time. That points to movie continuity to me. (Meanwhile, Stealth Force Silverstreak and Hound are clearly the G1 guys.) ((This should probably go on the Stealth Force page.)) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:48, 5 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
::::Well, given how the RPM/Speed Stars image at the bottom, and the package photography on the Stealth Force toy all represent WFC Soundwave... I'd say they're toys of this Soundwave and not ROTF Soundwave. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:23, 9 October 2010 (EDT)<br />
:::::You're well late, it's discussed on [[Soundwave (ROTF)]]. Still, what with [[repurposing]], we can discuss it here too. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:37, 9 October 2010 (EDT)<br />
<br />
What about the new Legion Class Soundwave. Mold wise it's clearly DOTM Soundwave, but the packaging is for the Prime line with his Prime Bio on the back. [[User:helli0n|helli0n]] 21:27, 6 June 2012 (EDT)<br />
:I don't know much about the bio on the back but the front of the packaging omits the Prime name just like it does for Mirage and Evac. They wouldn't leave them out if they were blatantly meant to be Prime toys. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:45, 10 June 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Voice Actor ==<br />
<br />
If he doesn't have one then there's no point having it there. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 11:29, 29 November 2010 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Quote ==<br />
<br />
Could we not consider Starscream and Knock Out's exchane in Sick Mind for Soundwave's main quote? It fits with Soundwave's role as... well, the eyes and ears of the Decepticons, as the spy.<br />
<br />
"That blasted Soundwave sees and hears everything."<br />
"The eyes and ears of the Decepticons." {{unsigned|72.190.7.46}}<br />
<br />
==toy picture==<br />
<br />
It's here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/<br />
<br />
It's "reining in", you guys. You ''rein in'' a horse. Reigning is something a monarch does.<br />
<br />
==Shockwave (DOTM)==<br />
<br />
Soundwave (Prime) is silent, he doesn't show any signs of sentience when someones talks to him, except moving his head to say no or yes, he just stands and watches.<br />
He's apparently dangerous : Airachnid seems to have given the autobots the hell of a run in previous episodes, and he owned her.<br />
Shockwave in the movie : the same. ( well apparently in prequel comics he kills and kills and kills. )<br />
Should we point the similarity in the Notes ? Is it on purpose that two of the most popular characters EVER bear similarities or is it a coincidence ? [[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]]<br />
:Well... no. "Soundwave doesn't speak, just like Shockwave in the Dark Of The Moon movie" is really not a noteworthy thing. There's lots of Transformers who don't speak. That doesn't make them identical/homages/noteworthingly similar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 18 February 2012 (EST)<br />
: Decepticons who don't speak in the live-action movies are a dime a dozen. I suppose we could also note that Soundwave (Prime) is just like Movie Blackout, Bonecrusher, Ravage, Scorponok, all seven/eight/nine Constructicons, Sideways, all the protoform warriors, Crowbar, Crankcase, Hatchet... but at that point we're just being friggin' ridiculous, wouldn't you say? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:13, 18 February 2012 (EST)<br />
::Bonecrusher, Demolishor, Mixmaster and Rampage did speak.--[[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 23:04, 22 February 2012 (EST)<br />
:::That is not the point. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:55, 22 February 2012 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Season 2 ==<br />
Is it true that Soundwave is going to start talking in season 2 of ''Prime''?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.102.155|71.162.102.155]] 23:11, 23 February 2012 (EST)<br />
:Well is he?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 16:33, 1 March 2012 (EST)<br />
::You know as much about it as we do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:59, 1 March 2012 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Go-Box ==<br />
<br />
His Go-Box as it appears on message boards etc [http://tfwiki.net/goboxes/SoundwavePrime.png is blank]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:50, 8 March 2012 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Noticed on the deluxe toy ==<br />
<br />
The paint apps on the nose of the vehicle mode look an awful lot like eyes, and the heels of the robot mode feet hinge just under it like a beak. In a sense, his vehicle mode seems to be at least a visual homage to Laserbeak, since Prime Laserbeak looks more like a bat than anything. Worth noting in trivia? --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 16:38, 11 March 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No, that's just a coincidence. (and really, he doesn't look anything like Laserbeak.)--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 09:57, 12 March 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== "Canons" ==<br />
<br />
Someone might want to go correct that in the Prime toy's mention of the Takara release.<br />
<br />
== Soundblaster ==<br />
<br />
Should'nt we add the Soundblaster and Buzzsaw repaint of the Fall of Cybertron Soundwave toy to the page?<br />
<br />
== RID Soundwave's arms ==<br />
<br />
I just got a deluxe Soundwave the other day, and noticed that mine has an... ''interesting'' use of plastic in the parts of the arms that fold out with the hands on them: On his right arm, this piece is cast in a slightly flexible, but still rigid, plastic (''a la'' Wheeljack's swords), yet on the left arm, it's that annoying soft plastic. Did I get a factory reject, or is this a common curiosity? If all (or even multiple) figures have them, I think it ought to be mentioned on the page.<br />
:- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]</sup> 02:15, 2 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:Managed to compare my Hasbro and TakaraTomy Soundwaves. The Hasbro version features slightly more rigid a plastic head, arms, tail-fins, nose, and Laserbeak wings, while the TakaraTomy version has soft rubbery ones. Interesting. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 06:59, 2 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
::Mine's the Hasbro version. The nose and heels are soft, but they're just in between the two arms in terms of harness, whereas the head seems to match the right arm. The left arm is just weird, though. It's the only part that's made of a plastic ''that soft''. This isn't something that one would have to compare two figures to notice. It's blatantly (and painfully) obvious.<br />
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]</sup> 23:58, 2 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== RID Soundwave's arms ==<br />
<br />
Should something be added about FoC Soundwave's handheld blaster? It's identical to G1 Prime's Ion Blaster, although it was omitted in the first run of FOC Soundwaves released in Australia (possibly all of them, but we don't know for sure)?[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 15:19, 5 November 2012 (EST)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Soundwave_(WFC)&diff=766396Talk:Soundwave (WFC)2012-11-05T20:18:42Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
<hr />
<div>== Triple Changer? ==<br />
<br />
Ok, we all know that Soundwave can transform into a Spy Rig-class Cybertronian truck, right? Well, right before his boss fight against Optimus and his team, he is briefly seen in the form of a Cybertronian device similar to a tapedeck, much like his original G1 counterpart's Earth mode. Does this mean he's a Triple Changer or is that just an interface mode like when you use the mounted turrets? --[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 21:19, 4 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
:As per our standards, we do not classify anyone as a "Triple Changer" (proper noun) unless they are specifically labeled as such. Lots of TFs have third modes who are not Triple Changers. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:31, 4 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Toy Image ==<br />
<br />
I'm not going to switch out the caption just 'cause I feel like it, but every time I look at the image, all I can think of is, "BECAUSE YOU ARE HEADCRAB SOUNDWAVE!"--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 19:09, 15 July 2010 (EDT)<br />
<br />
==Cybertron Adventures==<br />
<br />
Soundwave discovers that the Autobots have infiltrated the Datacore. Megatron sends him and Barricade to take care of the intrusion. The two speed out, and Soundwave must navigate a highway overgrown with Dark Energon crystals while dealing with swarms of Aerialbots before they can shut off access to the Datacore. An Autobot Destroyer blocks Soundwave's path and brings the roof down, forcing him to take an alternate route. he makes his way to a security station and downloads the information on the Autobots' advance, radioing Barricade to meet him at the assigned coordinates. When Soundwave arrives, though, he finds Barricade in the middle of a shooting gallery. The Autobots are soon joined by an aerial Destroyer, but the pair make short work of it. Soundwave intercepts a data download but cuts it off quickly, and races to intercept the escaping Autobots. Weaving his way through Dark Energon crystals and moving walls (huh?), he reaches the intercept point in time, causing Ironhide and Bumblebee to skid out of control... and right into a fusion blast from Megatron.<br />
This is here because I cant figure out how to put this on the page-- [[<noinclude>User:</noinclude>Kuptrion]]<br />
<br />
== Other Figures ==<br />
<br />
Doesn't WFC Soundwave have an RPM figure and a Stealth Force figure? --[[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 4 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
:I'm pretty sure that RPMs and Stealth Force are exclusive to the movie universe. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:14, 4 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
::Hm, they used his Video game robot mode, and Inferno appears to be from the Classics Universe. Gah, the 2010 line is all screwed up. -- [[User:Spongezilla|Spongezilla]] 00:07, 5 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
:::I'd say the Stealth Force figure is the movie guy, even though he has the WFC robot mode and the Animated vehicle mode. His bio talks about how he used to be a satellite and how he's just come down to Earth for the first time. That points to movie continuity to me. (Meanwhile, Stealth Force Silverstreak and Hound are clearly the G1 guys.) ((This should probably go on the Stealth Force page.)) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:48, 5 August 2010 (EDT)<br />
::::Well, given how the RPM/Speed Stars image at the bottom, and the package photography on the Stealth Force toy all represent WFC Soundwave... I'd say they're toys of this Soundwave and not ROTF Soundwave. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:23, 9 October 2010 (EDT)<br />
:::::You're well late, it's discussed on [[Soundwave (ROTF)]]. Still, what with [[repurposing]], we can discuss it here too. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:37, 9 October 2010 (EDT)<br />
<br />
What about the new Legion Class Soundwave. Mold wise it's clearly DOTM Soundwave, but the packaging is for the Prime line with his Prime Bio on the back. [[User:helli0n|helli0n]] 21:27, 6 June 2012 (EDT)<br />
:I don't know much about the bio on the back but the front of the packaging omits the Prime name just like it does for Mirage and Evac. They wouldn't leave them out if they were blatantly meant to be Prime toys. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:45, 10 June 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== Voice Actor ==<br />
<br />
If he doesn't have one then there's no point having it there. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 11:29, 29 November 2010 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Quote ==<br />
<br />
Could we not consider Starscream and Knock Out's exchane in Sick Mind for Soundwave's main quote? It fits with Soundwave's role as... well, the eyes and ears of the Decepticons, as the spy.<br />
<br />
"That blasted Soundwave sees and hears everything."<br />
"The eyes and ears of the Decepticons." {{unsigned|72.190.7.46}}<br />
<br />
==toy picture==<br />
<br />
It's here http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-prime-39/transformers-prime-soundwave-wheeljack-and-cliffjumper-at-nycc-173564/<br />
<br />
It's "reining in", you guys. You ''rein in'' a horse. Reigning is something a monarch does.<br />
<br />
==Shockwave (DOTM)==<br />
<br />
Soundwave (Prime) is silent, he doesn't show any signs of sentience when someones talks to him, except moving his head to say no or yes, he just stands and watches.<br />
He's apparently dangerous : Airachnid seems to have given the autobots the hell of a run in previous episodes, and he owned her.<br />
Shockwave in the movie : the same. ( well apparently in prequel comics he kills and kills and kills. )<br />
Should we point the similarity in the Notes ? Is it on purpose that two of the most popular characters EVER bear similarities or is it a coincidence ? [[User:SnipinScientist|SnipinScientist]]<br />
:Well... no. "Soundwave doesn't speak, just like Shockwave in the Dark Of The Moon movie" is really not a noteworthy thing. There's lots of Transformers who don't speak. That doesn't make them identical/homages/noteworthingly similar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 18 February 2012 (EST)<br />
: Decepticons who don't speak in the live-action movies are a dime a dozen. I suppose we could also note that Soundwave (Prime) is just like Movie Blackout, Bonecrusher, Ravage, Scorponok, all seven/eight/nine Constructicons, Sideways, all the protoform warriors, Crowbar, Crankcase, Hatchet... but at that point we're just being friggin' ridiculous, wouldn't you say? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:13, 18 February 2012 (EST)<br />
::Bonecrusher, Demolishor, Mixmaster and Rampage did speak.--[[Special:Contributions/199.60.104.18|199.60.104.18]] 23:04, 22 February 2012 (EST)<br />
:::That is not the point. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:55, 22 February 2012 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Season 2 ==<br />
Is it true that Soundwave is going to start talking in season 2 of ''Prime''?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.102.155|71.162.102.155]] 23:11, 23 February 2012 (EST)<br />
:Well is he?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 16:33, 1 March 2012 (EST)<br />
::You know as much about it as we do. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:59, 1 March 2012 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Go-Box ==<br />
<br />
His Go-Box as it appears on message boards etc [http://tfwiki.net/goboxes/SoundwavePrime.png is blank]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:50, 8 March 2012 (EST)<br />
<br />
== Noticed on the deluxe toy ==<br />
<br />
The paint apps on the nose of the vehicle mode look an awful lot like eyes, and the heels of the robot mode feet hinge just under it like a beak. In a sense, his vehicle mode seems to be at least a visual homage to Laserbeak, since Prime Laserbeak looks more like a bat than anything. Worth noting in trivia? --[[Special:Contributions/72.215.154.250|72.215.154.250]] 16:38, 11 March 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:No, that's just a coincidence. (and really, he doesn't look anything like Laserbeak.)--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 09:57, 12 March 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
== "Canons" ==<br />
<br />
Someone might want to go correct that in the Prime toy's mention of the Takara release.<br />
<br />
== Soundblaster ==<br />
<br />
Should'nt we add the Soundblaster and Buzzsaw repaint of the Fall of Cybertron Soundwave toy to the page?<br />
<br />
== RID Soundwave's arms ==<br />
<br />
I just got a deluxe Soundwave the other day, and noticed that mine has an... ''interesting'' use of plastic in the parts of the arms that fold out with the hands on them: On his right arm, this piece is cast in a slightly flexible, but still rigid, plastic (''a la'' Wheeljack's swords), yet on the left arm, it's that annoying soft plastic. Did I get a factory reject, or is this a common curiosity? If all (or even multiple) figures have them, I think it ought to be mentioned on the page.<br />
:- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]</sup> 02:15, 2 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
:Managed to compare my Hasbro and TakaraTomy Soundwaves. The Hasbro version features slightly more rigid a plastic head, arms, tail-fins, nose, and Laserbeak wings, while the TakaraTomy version has soft rubbery ones. Interesting. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 06:59, 2 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
::Mine's the Hasbro version. The nose and heels are soft, but they're just in between the two arms in terms of harness, whereas the head seems to match the right arm. The left arm is just weird, though. It's the only part that's made of a plastic ''that soft''. This isn't something that one would have to compare two figures to notice. It's blatantly (and painfully) obvious.<br />
::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] <sup>[[User talk:Queso|Complain here]]</sup> 23:58, 2 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
<br />
Should something be added about FoC Soundwave's handheld blaster? It's identical to G1 Prime's Ion Blaster, although it was omitted in the first run of FOC Soundwaves released in Australia (possibly all of them, but we don't know for sure)?</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Powerdive&diff=765199Talk:Powerdive2012-11-01T19:31:52Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
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<div>FWIW, the new Powerdive definitely has a Ransack headsculpt. But he's clearly in Powerdive colors. Maybe his bio will make him Ransack, but otherwise I think we have to assume he's Powerdive with a weird new head. Which happens; Pretender Bumblebee is still Bumblebee and not Cliffjumper. -[[User:LV|LV]] 22:29, 13 July 2012 (EDT)<br />
:That's not entirely true, as with the visor down he looks like he retains Powerdive's "goggles" and rounded noggin. If anything, he's a bizarre twin homage. Also, do we know this head was a pre-tool? It wasn't on Highbrow's instructions.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 02:12, 1 August 2012 (EDT)<br />
:I agree with the "bizarre twin homage" thing. The alt-mode is obviously Ransack, the headsculpt I feel is more Ransack-y, but the name and colors is Powerdive. The bio is pretty unrelated to either, though it does mention detecting and attacking enemies which is also in G2 Powerdive's bio (which is admittedly pretty vague but more than he has in common with Ransack). I hope the US release has a more specific bio. Or a hilariously out of place one, that gives him Leadfoot's bio or something.<br />
::The new head has Ransack's "goggles", not Powerdive's. Powerdive's are rounded. Everything about Powerdive's head is rounded. Ransack has straight edges and angles, just like this new head. The new head has the same complex central part to the helmet. It also has Ransack's sloped cheek pieces. If this toy had been released in Ransack colors like Hasbro US's intention apparently was all along, we're not even having this conversation. (The head was shown at BC as the "pretool" for Highbrow.) There's no question this is intended to be Powerdive - he's the right colors, he has the right bio (he dives) and tech specs and he even has tampos based on Powerdive's - but that's clearly a Ransack head on his shoulders. -[[User:LV|LV]] 11:37, 15 August 2012 (EDT)<br />
::Having gotten the figure finally, he's definitely got Ransack's goggles, not Powerdive's. But yeah, this is Powerdive for sure.</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Wildrider_(G1)&diff=765198Talk:Wildrider (G1)2012-11-01T19:30:02Z<p>Larkmarn: </p>
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<div>Is that the best way to add the info about Dead End's GDO release? Despite the name and bio, the colors and the tech specs are clearly Wildrider, so it could be argued that the intent was to make the figure Wildrider.[[User:Larkmarn|Larkmarn]] 15:30, 1 November 2012 (EDT)</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Talk:Wildrider_(G1)&diff=765197Talk:Wildrider (G1)2012-11-01T19:29:44Z<p>Larkmarn: New page: Is that the best way to add the info about Dead End's GDO release? Despite the name and bio, the colors and the tech specs are clearly Wildrider, so it could be argued that the intent was ...</p>
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<div>Is that the best way to add the info about Dead End's GDO release? Despite the name and bio, the colors and the tech specs are clearly Wildrider, so it could be argued that the intent was to make the figure Wildrider.</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Dead_End_(G1)&diff=765138Dead End (G1)2012-11-01T13:28:00Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Toys */</p>
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<div>{{picsneeded|appearances in comics and such}}<br />
{{factions|decepticon|decepticong2}}<br />
{{disambig3|Dead End}}<br />
:''Dead End is a [[Decepticon]] [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br />
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[[Image:MTMTEDeadEnd.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Life! Don't talk to me about life.]]<br />
'''Dead End''' knows that his having an entry in [[Main Page|some database somewhere]] hardly matters. The page will be vandalized. The computers will eventually fail. The data will be lost. The [[Human|species that made it]] will go extinct. Their planet will become barren. The [[sun]] will die out. All suns will die out. The universe will implode again, or expand into nothingness, or be eaten by [[Unicron|a giant evil space-god]]. So what's the point?<br />
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Despite this deep knowledge of the dark, inevitable pointlessness of existence, he spends an inordinate amount of time polishing and primping himself. This is something the other Decepticons are sure to tease him about whenever they get the chance, which only depresses him more. If you can actually motivate him to fight, he's a fearless warrior and actually cheers up a little, since trying to save his own life can momentarily distract him from how ultimately brief and pointless it is; the hard trick is getting him motivated in the first place, since in the end we're all doomed. ''Sigh.''<br />
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Dead End combines with his fellow Stunticons to form [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], though he doesn't know why he bothers.<br />
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{{quote|Face it: we're doomed.|Dead End at any given minute|"[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1]]"}}<br />
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==Fiction==<br />
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br />
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br />
:''Voice actor:'' [[Phillip Clarke]] (English), [[Masashi Ebara]] (Japanese), [[Héctor Vieyra]] (Latin American), [[Ulrich Bernsdorff]] (German, ''Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1 & 4''), [[Bernd Simon]] (German, ''Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3''), [[Holger Schwiers]] (German, ''The Burden Hardest to Bear''), [[Ulf Jürgen Söhmisch]] (German, Generation 2 Dub)<br />
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[[Image:KeytoVectorSigmaPt1 bankrobbers DeadEnd.jpg|left|200px|thumb|'Con Day Afternoon]]<br />
Dead End, along with the other Stunticons, was given [[Spark|life]] by Vector Sigma in an attempt by [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] to form a ground based unit. Seeing little choice in the matter, Dead End decided to do what Megatron said. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} The Decepticons returned to [[Earth]] with the newly awakened Stunticons who began wreaking havoc and damaging the Autobots' good name by attacking the US military base containing the experimental rocket fuel. Eventually, the Autobots returned with the newly built [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] whose combined form [[Superion (G1)|Superion]] defeated the Stunticon combiner Menasor. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}<br />
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[[Image:TransEuropeExpress DeadEnd carjack.jpg|right|200px|thumb|"The Heat Death of the universe is coming, I tell you! COMING!"]]<br />
Despite this defeat, the Stunticons were the key component in Megatron's elaborate scheme to hold a [[Europa 2000|fake charity race]] from Paris to Istanbul so he could steal US driver [[Auggie Cahnay (G1)|Auggie Cahnay]]'s car which would be melted down to house the powerful [[Pearl of Bahoudin]]. Megatron ordered the Stunticons to eliminate the Autobots protecting Cahnay. While his fellow Stunticons surrounded the brothers [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], Dead End leapt ahead of the racers and transformed, blasting the boxed-in Autobots off the road. They disabled several more racers, but when Dead End set a trap for [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]], the wily gunner managed to escape his attackers. Together, Auggie Cahnay, [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]], [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] and Bluestreak defeated Menasor and destroyed the Pearl of Bahoudin. {{storylink|Trans-Europe Express}}<br />
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When Megatron was infected with [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] after a trip to the lost Autobot colony of [[Antilla]], the Stunticons were assigned to capture the Autobot scientist [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], who had developed the powerful anti-corrosion [[Corrostop]]. After Megatron cured himself and infected the Autobots with the Cosmic Rust, Menasor attacked the Statue of Liberty in [[New York City]] with the ancient [[Lightning Bug]] heat ray, intent on stopping the Autobots from matter-duplicating more Corrostop from the layer they sprayed on the statue. Superion defeated Menasor and destroyed the Lightning Bug. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}<br />
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Caught up in a demolition derby, the Stunticons missed most of the "civil war" between the Decepticons and [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]]. They arrived at the battle site just as Starscream was declaring victory over Megatron. Dead End didn't particularly care either way, until [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] pointed out that Starscream was insufferable enough already without being in charge, and Dead End quickly conceded that point. The Stunticons formed Menasor and, one Batman *POW* later, [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] was in pieces. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}<br />
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On another occasion, Megatron instructed the Stunticons to bring him a series of scientific components for his latest Unbeatable Super Weapon. Dead End and [[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] were assigned to acquire an experimental generator from the U.S. military. The retrieval was successful, but they encountered the Autobots [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] and [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] on the drive to their rendezvous with Megatron. Dead End was disabled by a blast of Tracks' black beam gun, followed by Warpath putting his fist through the Stunticon's roof. Disabled and collected as prisoners of war, the Stunticons were brought back to the Ark and held in captivity while [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and a strike team of Autobots used camouflage paint to mimic the Stunticons and infiltrate Megatron's camp. Special operations agent [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]], a cheerful and easy-going robot, assumed Dead End's appearance, which undoubtedly made Dead End feel even worse. The real Stunticons managed to break free, however, and confronted their doppelgangers as Menasor. Ultimately, the Super Weapon was destroyed, and the Decepticons were forced into a retreat. {{storylink|Masquerade}}<br />
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[[Image:FFoD3 DeadEnd eating.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Only Swindle would be cagey enough to choose a nihilist as his official taste tester.]]<br />
After the Decepticons were driven off Cybertron in the aftermath of [[Unicron]]'s attack, they fled to [[Chaar]]. Suffering constant energon shortages, they were reduced to fighting among themselves. The Stunticons stuck together, but things were dire. So dire, in fact, that the Decepticons offered up their energon when it was learned that [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] was alive. Dead End warned that they were doomed if they gave up their energon, but [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]] countered that if they didn't, they were doomed anyway. Either way, they were doomed. Oh, for God's sake... {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}} When the [[Quintesson|Quintessons]] arrived on Chaar, the other Decepticons cowered in fear. Dead End, however, had had enough. If he was going to die, he would just get it over with. He asked the Quintessons to just make it quick, but they offered energon instead. He deferred to [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]]'s negotiating skills, and when Swindle said to test some of the energon, he agreed. What the [[Pit|heck]], poison would probably be quicker than fuel exhaustion. Fortunately, the energon was untainted, and Dead End agreed to help the Quintessons destroy the Autobots on [[Goo 8739B]]. Might as well take a few Autobots with them before they go offline. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}} When they arrived, Galvatron showed up and fired upon the "traitors". Dead End could care less: whether from in front or behind, death was death. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}} After Galvatron seized control of the Decepticons and struck up an alliance with the Quintessons, the Stunticons were part of the Decepticon team attacking the Autobots on Earth. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}<br />
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[[Image:BurdenHardesttoBear Stunticons Matrix.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The Matrix is of no use to someone with 24 darkest hours a day.]]<br />
Dead End and the Stunticons fought alongside Galvatron during a scheme to steal [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'s transforming cog, leaving him vulnerable to [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]. When [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]], [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]] and [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]] infiltrated Trypticon to steal ''his'' transforming cog, the Stunticons were soundly defeated by the two Autobots. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}} Later, after a series of assaults on Japan, Dead End and Wildrider were left behind on Earth to watch for Autobot activity while the others returned to Chaar. Seeing Rodimus Prime driving on a secluded stretch of highway, the two Stunticons went after him, and eventually knocked the Autobot leader off the side of a cliff. This jarred loose the [[Matrix of Leadership]] from Rodimus' chest cavity, and so Dead End and Wildrider took their prize back to Galvatron. {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}}<br />
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A short while later, the Stunticons were part of a task force led by Galvatron to stop Rodimus Prime from recovering the body of Optimus Prime from [[Mark Morgan|two]] [[Gregory Swofford|humans]]. Upon arrival, however, they were met with several [[Hate Plague]]-infected Autobots, and before Dead End could react to the situation, he was tackled and infected by Ultra Magnus. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}<br />
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====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic====<br />
Dead End and the Stunticons decided to have a little fun and tear up a baseball stadium in Japan. Luckily, the Autobots' plucky young ally [[Kenji]] was present to radio for assistance. All the combiner teams assembled, and it was Menasor and Bruticus against Superion and Defensor! Defensor was forced to break apart by the combined Decepticon attack, but Superion and Kenji got the idea to shoot out the Decepticons' legs. [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] and [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] took advantage of the empty combiner ports and took over as Menasor's legs, launching him into the ocean. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #5}}<br />
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While posing as Autobots, Dead End, [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] and the Stunticons rampaged through the city streets, smearing the good name of their adversaries. Later, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] posed as humans to rally people against the Autobots, and Motormaster's brigade staged an attack on the rally to drive the point home. The Autobot fire engines [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] arrived, however, and used their water hoses to wash off the Decepticons' fake insignia. Enraged, Motormaster planned to combine into Menasor...only to see Dead End and the others were already retreating into the distance. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #7}}<br />
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====''Scramble City'' cartoon====<br />
Dead End and the Stunticons were summoned by Megatron to put an end to the [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]] project, and succeed where [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] had failed. Their first strike was impressive, holding back Optimus Prime and a cadre of Autobots and shooting the Aerialbots out of the skies. When the Aerialbots formed Superion, Dead End and his teammates followed suit and merged into Menasor. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}<br />
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====''Story of Binaltech''====<br />
In the early 21st century, the Decepticons gained a temporary advantage by unleashing the [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] virus on the Autobots. Their hated foes turned defeat into victory, however, by creating the revolutionary [[Binaltech|Binaltech Project]] to transfer the sparks of the infected Autobots into powerful new forms. {{storylink|Story of Binaltech, Chapter 1}} In order to gain Binaltech power for themselves, the Decepticons and their human allies the [[Concurrence]] used mind control technology to infiltrate the Binaltech Project, implanting Decepticons into bodies meant for Autobots. Thanks to [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] and the Concurrence, Dead End became the first Decepticon Binaltech warrior, stealing a new frame meant for the injured Autobot [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. {{storylink|Arise! Evil Binaltechs}}<br />
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====''The Great Transformer War''====<br />
Galvatron kidnapped Doctor [[Dalton (G1)|Dalton]] of [[Eran]] to upgrade the might of his combiner warriors. When the Autobot combiners arrived to save Dalton, Dead End and his teammates were deployed at high speeds from Motormaster's launcher mode. They met Superion in mid-air, and the force of their deployment enabled the combiner teams to tear him apart. The Stunticons then merged into Menasor to move in for the kill. They were ultimately outwitted by the Autobots, however, who rescued Dalton and safely returned to Metroplex. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1|The Great Transformer War #1}}<br />
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====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====<br />
Dead End and the Stunticons participated in Galvatron's siege on Cybertron. They managed to gain the high ground against the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] and [[Throttlebot]]s, and rained laser fire down on their opponents. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} Dead End and his team formed Menasor to fight their Autobot counterparts, but were steamrolled by the might and firepower of the [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Battleship Maximus]]. Transporting back to Earth, they attempted to interfere with [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]]'s quest for the Matrix. Dead End and the Stunticons were confronted by the Aerialbots in the desert, but the battle of their combiner forms eventually led them to the Arctic. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}}<br />
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When [[Vector Sigma]] began perfecting the new super-metal [[Cybertonuron]] on Cybertron, Galvatron ordered another all-out attack on the planet to seize the metal for the Decepticons before the Autobots could make use of it. Dead End and the Stunticons journeyed to Cybertron with the strike force, and confronted their old enemies, the Aerialbots. The Aerialbots got the drop on Dead End's group by forming Superion and lashing out before the Stunticons could form Menasor as well. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Dead End and the Stunticons were still in a firefight sometime later, as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] passed by looking for [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] and the Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}} In [[San Francisco]], Dead End and the Stunticons assisted Bruticus in using [[buridanka|a carnivorous plant]] to distract the Autobots from [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s plans on [[Zarak (planet)|Zarak]]. They fought against the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s and [[Computron (G1)|Computron]]. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}}<br />
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Sometime later, Dead End and the Stunticons gathered in the desert as their Ninja Commander [[Sixshot]] began issuing orders. They assembled as Menasor, and took part in the escalating Decepticon war effort as five separate Autobot outposts were attacked simultaneously at Sixshot's command. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} Dead End was also among the Decepticons who assembled to welcome Scorponok as their new Emperor of Terror following Galvatron's fall. {{storylink|I Risk My Life for Earth}}<br />
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====''Zone'' OVA, comic and story pages====<br />
Seeking to create a [[Decepticon Zone]] to counter the [[Micro|Autobot Zone]], [[Emperor of Destruction|Decepticon Emperor]] [[Violen Jiger]] gathered together the Nine Great Demon Generals, upgrading them with powerful new armor and weaponry, then sent them forth to conquer planets. Dead End was among those summoned, but only as a part of Menasor. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 1}} {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (manga)|Zone}} {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}<br />
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===Marvel Comics continuity===<br />
====Generation 1====<br />
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''When [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] began experiencing strange dreams about new Transformers, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] joined him in his dreamscape, and together the two observed a vision brought on by Buster's brief connection to the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]]. Dead End and his fellow Stunticons were seen transforming into Menasor, and battling the Autobots alongside [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. Unfortunately, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] intercepted the signals for Prime and Buster's shared dream, giving the Decepticons just as much knowledge about these future [[Special Teams]] as the Autobots. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}''<br />
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The [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] known as [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] managed to infiltrate the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and plant one of his shells inside Optimus Prime. Thanks to this espionage, [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] and Soundwave were able to harness the digital energy of the Creation Matrix when Prime unleashed it. Thus, as the Autobots were bringing life to the new [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] Special Team, so too were the Decepticons bringing their new Stunticons on-line. Megatron wasted no time in sending his newly-minted minions out to ruin the Autobots' good name. Dead End and his teammates started an ad hoc demolition derby on a highway, cornering the Autobot [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] while pretending to defend him against the human robot-hunters, [[Circuit Breaker]] and [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. Dead End didn't see much point in even acknowledging the fleshlings, but he was pushed into combat by his leader, [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]. After a combination battle with the Aerialbots, the Stunticons returned to Megatron, their mission to smear the Autobots' reputation with the humans complete. {{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br />
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Megatron became more and more unstable over time, especially after Optimus Prime died, but not by his own hands. While the Decepticons traveled convoy to a [[Space bridge]] nexus in the Florida Keys, Megatron rode in gun mode inside of Dead End. He stopped long enough to totally demolish a passing truck that resembled Optimus Prime. Dead End pointed out Megatron's mistake, but his great leader seemed satisfied by the thought that if the truck HAD been Prime, then Prime would certainly be dead now. Even though he already was. Even Dead End's obsession with death wasn't enough to understand Megatron in this state. Once they reached the rendezvous point, Dead End rather eagerly left with [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] while Megatron waited behind for an ambush by Optimus Prime that he was sure was coming. Megatron ended up blowing himself up shortly thereafter, and certainly Dead End and the other Decepticons were none too broken up by that turn of events. {{storylink|Gone but Not Forgotten!}}<br />
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With Megatron gone, Dead End and the Stunticons began working for [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] and [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], at a tropical island base which was actually a disguised space cruiser. {{storylink|The Desert Island of Space!}} They staged a daring attack against the Autobots on the moon, but were ultimately driven off by [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]. {{storylink|Totaled!}}<br />
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=====Earthforce=====<br />
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''Back in action on Earth, Dead End and his Stunticon partner Drag Strip began working for a faction of Decepticons led by Megatron. Megatron had created an [[Global warming satellite|ozone-warping rocket]], designed to trap heat in the atmosphere which could be tapped for a new source of energy, even though it would virtually destroy all life on Earth. Their plan was interrupted by two Autobots, [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]. {{storylink|Starting Over!}} While Wheeljack kept the Stunticons busy, Prowl leapt onto the rocket itself, his weight knocking it off course and causing it to crash before it reached the apex point in the atmosphere it was meant to travel to. Dead End and Drag Strip raced to the crash site, hoping to retrieve the atmospheric poisons Megatron had loaded it with. At the fallen rocket, however, they ran into [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]], who were interested in securing the equipment for their commander, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. The four Decepticons began to tussle, little realizing Prowl had already snuck away and neutralized the canisters. How droll. {{storylink|Life in the Slow Lane}}''<br />
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''At the [[Enclave]], Dead End was seen talking to [[Octane]] early on. Later, after the party descended into violence, he was seen punching out [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] while fighting back-to-back with [[Tantrum]], both of them little realizing they were supposed to be on opposite sides. Probably. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}} During the attack on Autobot Earthbase, Dead End and Breakdown joined the [[Battlecharger|Battlechargers]] in racing in through the wall of laser fire, trying to reach the base and the Autobot soldiers inside defending it. None of them made it, though, so it was all rather pointless in the end. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}} When the Decepticons needed to kidnap the Autobots' human ally, [[Irwin Spoon (G1)|Irwin Spoon]], Dead End and the Stunticons ran interference for Motormaster so that he could get away with the human stored inside his cab. After Breakdown took himself out of action, though, only Dead End and Drag Strip were left to stop [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] from catching up with their leader. The two Stunticons raced up onto the rear bumpers of their foes, only to be caught off guard when the Autobots suddenly broke away, sending the Decepticon cars hurtling into the back wheels of their own boss, Motormaster, knocking all of them off the road. {{storylink|End of the Road! (UK)|End of the Road!}}''<br />
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{{note|Drag Strip and Dead End are mistakenly named as Shockwave's troops in "[[Life in the Slow Lane]]", just as the Battlechargers are mistakenly identified as working for Megatron.}}<br />
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=====Marvel UK future timelines=====<br />
''Dead End and the Stunticons attacked [[Kup (G1)|Kup]] on the road in 2003, making an attempt to steal the plans for the upcoming [[Autobot City]]. They were successful, but the plans were a set of fakes, so they ultimately didn't gain anything. An exhausting exercise in futility — bet Dead End droned on about that for days. {{storylink|Ark Duty}}''<br />
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''In 2008, [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] and [[Death's Head (G1)|Death's Head]] were compelled by [[Unicron]] to make an assassination attempt on the Decepticon leader, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. They sealed the door to the audience chamber during the attack, and so [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] summoned the Stunticons as Menasor to break through the door. They eventually did so, and Breakdown and Dead End were about to execute the Decepticon traitors when Death's Head returned with news of Shockwave's demise. Using a series of explosives built into his hover platform as an incentive, the bounty hunter forced Soundwave and the other Decepticons to submit to their leadership. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}''<br />
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====Generation 2====<br />
After [[Skullgrin]] was killed on a survey mission by the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronians]], Dead End was seen among the Decepticons [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] was pumping up into a killing fury. (There was, however, a speech bubble near Dead End's head calling for "Death to the pretenders!" Maybe he meant the Cybertronian-Decepticons, or maybe he just didn't like Skullgrin). {{storylink|New Dawn}}<br />
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===Dreamwave comics continuity===<br />
At one point during the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], Dead End was linked with the Stunticons to become a super-combiner known as Menasor. After the [[Crisis Intervention Accord]]s, though, the Stunticons were forced to disband as a unit to prevent major devastation. To that end, Dead End and Motormaster joined Starscream's [[Predacon (War Within)|Predacons]] separate from their teammates. When Starscream announced that they were crashing the peace ceremony between the other factions, Dead End brought up the fact that they were ridiculously outnumbered, but Motormaster told him to either say something positive or shut up. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}}<br />
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At some point in Cybertron's recent history, the Stunticons were deemed psychotic and too dangerous to function in society, and as a result were placed into perpetual stasis lock inside of a [[Detention Banks|prison facility]]. Later, in an attempt to create a diversion while he set his final plans in motion, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arranged for the release of the Stunticons. They formed into Menasor and ran amuck for awhile, until [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and began insulting them. Unable to reconcile with this, the five Stunticons began to bicker with each other over whose fault it was that they were failing, temporarily stopping Menasor and allowing Ultra Magnus to ram the combiner in the chest, forcing him to separate into his component parts and disabling the Stunticons. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}}<br />
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===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers'' comics===<br />
Along with his Stunticon comrades, Dead End was sent into 1930's [[Chicago]] when [[Teletran 3]] went haywire. After being reformatted and locked into the shapes of old human cars, they were found and used by a gang of organized criminals for three days. The Stunticons, aside from Motormaster, were then found by a group of members from [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] and [[Cobra]], sent from the future to retrieve the Cybertronians and avoid a temporal holocaust. Dead End was awoken when Breakdown snagged the humans' [[disruption unit]]s and shared them with the others, and the Stunticons promptly attacked their saviors and their Autobot ally, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. After following them in a car chase that led halfway across Chicago, the Stunticons stumbled into Motormaster, at which point everyone was sent back to present-day Cybertron. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}}<br />
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Some time later, Dead End and the other Stunticons joined [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]]'s new Decepticon army, and helped capture a team of Autobots and G.I. Joes that followed him to Cybertron. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}} They later combined into Menasor for an attack on an Autobot peace ceremony. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}}<br />
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===IDW comics continuity===<br />
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[[Image:MegatronOrigin3 DeadEnd Wildrider.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Strangely optimistic for a pessimist.]]<br />
Dead End was one of dozens of Cybertronians who answered the call to join Megatron in [[Kaon]]'s underground pit-fighting ring, and later participated in the first street battle against Autobot forces. He was also...unnervingly ''optimistic'' about his chances of making the team. <br />
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Seriously, it was creepy. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}} <br />
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Soon afterwards, Megatron launched his rebellion, and Dead End fought alongside Drag Strip in the ensuing battle. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 4|Megatron Origin #4}}<br />
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Several million years later, Dead End was among the Decepticons left behind on [[Earth]] following a failed invasion. In search of fuel, he assaulted a human gas station and guzzled its precious liquid. {{storylink|Seasons in Flight}} Along with Motormaster and Wildrider, he was then captured and deactivated by [[Skywatch]]. The three Stunticons were eventually rescued by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], who needed all the help he could get in getting off the planet. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}} With Drag Strip already onboard the team, the four Stunticons began helping construct a starship. However, the team still wanted their [[Breakdown (G1)|last member]] back, and Dead End and Motormaster claimed to know where to find him. {{storylink|Seasons in Flight}}<br />
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After Breakdown was recovered, Dead End and the others revealed that they didn't just want him back so they could be a big, happy Stunticon family—[[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] had modified the team into combiners, allowing them to merge into [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], kill the Autobots and take the ship for themselves! {{storylink|Enemies of the System}} However, the Autobots soon figured out Menasor's weakness: his components could barely agree on anything. They focused their attacks on Dead End, which confused and angered the other components, opening Menasor up to be defeated by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. The Stunticons were subsequently captured by Skywatch. {{storylink|Earthworks}}<br />
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Dead End would eventually find himself rescued from Skywatch a second time when the other Decepticons returned to Earth and attacked the base where the Stunticons were held. As he drove towards freedom, he made sure to ram Skywatch agent [[Kyle Pennington|Pennington]] on the way. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 1: The Demolished Man}} He later ended up as one of the Decepticons in Autobot captivity on Cybertron. {{storylink|The Autonomy Lesson}} Dead End was part of an angry Decepticon crowd who demanded answers from the Autobots for Ratbat's death.{{storylink|Stick Together}}<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
[[Image:G1DeadEnd toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed.]]<br />
*'''Dead End''' (1986)<br />
**''Team ID number:'' '''S1'''<br />
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-54'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Gun, double cannon, cannon connector<br />
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: The original Dead End toy transformed into a maroon Porsche 928. He comes with a black double-barreled laser cannon that attaches to the back of his vehicle mode.<br />
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: In robot mode, Dead End's legs transform similarly to [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]'s, flipping and inverting. He is armed with a small black laser pistol. As he was designed with the [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style combination, he can form the arm or leg to any similarly-constructed robot combination. Although the 1986 G1 Menasor toy giftset shows Dead End as Menasor's right leg, Dead End's nominal placement is as Menasor's left arm.<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/DeadEnd/deadend.htm More information on Dead End at TFU.info]''<br />
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*'''Menasor''' (Giftset, 1986)<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''D-55'''<br />
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:Dead End was also available as part of the Menasor giftset.<br />
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===Generation 2===<br />
[[Image:G2-DeadEnd.jpg|right|thumb|'This paint job was doomed from the start.']]<br />
*'''Dead End''' (Stunticon)<br />
**''Team ID number:'' '''S2'''''<br />
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:For the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' line]], Hasbro intended to release [[Redeco|redecoes]] of the Stunticons in 1994, with Dead End being cast primarily in red plastic, with black and blue accents. Ultimately, however, the toys never went into mass production and remained officially unreleased. Only the four limbs are known to have made it to the sample packaging stage, having turned up in very limited numbers over the years (with the exception of G2 [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], who was available at [[BotCon 1994]] in somewhat larger quantities). All the G2 Stunticons are known to catch high prices on the secondary market.<ref>[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/1531/Generation+2/Deadend.html Mirrored photos of Generation 2 Dead End in sample packaging at Transformers @ The Moon]</ref><br />
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===Alternators===<br />
[[Image:Alternators DeadEnd toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left side.]]<br />
*'''Dead End''' (2004)<br />
**''Alternator ID number:'' '''6'''<br />
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-05'''<br />
**''Accessories:'' Engine/gun<br />
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: ''Alternators'' Dead End transforms into a fully-painted black Dodge Viper Competition Coupe with silver stripes, red windows and headlights.<br />
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: In robot mode he transforms similarly to ''Alternators'' [[Sideswipe (G1)|Side Swipe]], and has [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]'s head, as his tooling was originally designed as the latter Autobot. As a retool of Side Swipe, several of his parts are different, including the hood, wheels, roof, the entire rear end of the car, chest and head. He is armed with a vacuum-metalized silver gun formed out of his engine.<br />
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: The main difference between the US ''Alternators'' release of this toy and the Japanese ''Binaltech'' version is that the ''Binaltech'' version is constructed partially out of die-cast metal.<br />
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::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Decepticon/AltDeadEnd/deadend.htm More information on ''Alternators'' Dead End at TFU.info]''<br />
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===Generations===<br />
*'''Dead End''' (Scout, 2012)<br />
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:An Asian market exclusive, Dead End is a red and gray [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Brakedown (ROTF)|Brakedown]], transforming into a sports car loosely based on a Lamborghini Gallardo. Notably, despite having the name Dead End and a bio fitting G1 Dead End, the figure's color scheme and Tech Specs are a reference to fellow Stunticon [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]]. <br />
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:Dead End was originally only to be released as part of a big block of toys developed [[exclusive]]ly for release in China and other Hasbro Asia markets. However, [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] picked up Springer as part of a ''massive'' group of ''Transformers'' exclusives for US market release, just in time for the 2012 holiday shopping season.<br />
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:This mold was also used to make the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'' series]] [[Oil Pan]]<br />
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==Notes==<br />
===Foreign names===<br />
*''Japanese:'' '''Dead End''' (デッドエンド ''Deddo Endo'')<br />
*''French:'' '''Impasse''' (Canada)<br />
*''Italian:'' '''Cobra'''<br />
*''Russian:'' '''Tupik''' (Тупик, "Dead End"), '''Chjort''' (Чёрт, "Devil")<br />
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==References==<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Dead_End Dead End's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br />
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[[Category:The Headmasters Decepticons]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Wildrider_(G1)&diff=765136Wildrider (G1)2012-11-01T13:21:43Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Notes */</p>
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{{disambig3|Wildrider}}<br />
:''Wildrider is a [[Decepticon]] [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br />
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[[Image:MTMTEWildrider.jpg|right|300px|thumb|When slow people race Wildrider, THE TERRORISTS WIN.]]<br />
What [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] does for air travel '''Wildrider''' does for the roadways. The difference is that the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]] honestly means no harm and this insanely wild-riding [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] most definitely does. Some of his Decepticon comrades suspect him of playing insane to enhance his street cred, but those who have come to know him the best realize that it's no act. Wildrider really is as crazy as they come and a very real danger to anything on the road with him. Even his fellow Stunticons are wary of driving anywhere near him.<br />
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Wildrider combines with his fellow Stunticons to form [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]].<br />
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{{bigquote|I'm Wildrider, and I wanna bust something up!|Wildrider, crazy as they come|"[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1]]"}}<br />
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==Fiction==<br />
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br />
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br />
:''Voice actor:'' [[Terry McGovern]] (English), [[Yū Shimaka|Yutaka Shimaka]] (Japanese), [[Héctor Vieyra]] (Spanish), [[Hans-Rainer Müller]] (German, "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1"), [[Peter Musäus]] (German, "The Burden Hardest to Bear"), [[Willy Schäfer]] (German, ''Generation 2'' "Starscreams Brigade"), [[Niko Macoulis]] (German, ''Generation 2'' "Masquerade")<br />
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[[Image:TransEuropeExpress riding Wildrider.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Not Mr. Toad.]]<br />
After a failed attempt to steal experimental rocket fuel from [[United States military]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] realized that while the Decepticons controlled the skies, the Autobots had supremacy on the ground, and so they needed new ground-based warriors who could out-drive and out-fight the Autobots on their terms. [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] was sent to steal various [[human]] vehicles that would be rebuilt in the new Stunticons. The Decepticons journeyed to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], beat the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] out of [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]]'s possession and ordered the [[Vector Sigma|ancient supercomputer]] to give life to the Stunticons. While the other Stunticons pledged their loyalty to Megatron, Wildrider merely stated his desire for destruction. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} Whilst the Autobots were trapped on Cybertron, the Decepticons returned to [[Earth]] with the newly awakened Stunticons, who began wreaking havoc and damaging the Autobots' good name by attacking the US military base containing the experimental rocket fuel. Eventually, the Autobots returned with the newly built [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] whose combined form Superion defeated the Stunticon combiner Menasor. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}<br />
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When the Autobots got involved in the fake [[Europa 2000]] charity race he had set up, Megatron needed them removed from the playing field to stop any interference with his plans to dig up the [[Pearl of Bahoudin]] and steal an experimental car engine from [[Auggie Cahnay (G1)|Auggie Cahnay]], the top US driver. He had the Stunticons intercept and eliminate the Autobots, and Wildrider helped disable [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] with his fellow Decepticons. [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] refused to just lay down, though, dodging the Stunticons' ramming attacks and jumping atop Wildrider's hood. The crazy Stunticon eventually shook Bluestreak off by just crashing hood-first into a mountain at over 150 mph. Afterwards, the Stunticons were defeated when Cahnay rammed his car into Menasor’s face. {{storylink|Trans-Europe Express}}<br />
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[[Image:CosmicRust Wildrider speedboat.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The Hate Boat/Soon will be making another round...]]<br />
When Megatron was infected with [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] after a trip to the lost Autobot colony of [[Antilla]], the Stunticons were assigned to capture the Autobot scientist [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], who had developed the powerful anti-corrosion [[Corrostop]]. Wildrider drove a speedboat while Drag Strip water skied behind him. After Megatron cured himself and infected the Autobots with the Cosmic Rust, Menasor attacked the Statue of Liberty in [[New York City]] with the ancient [[Lightning Bug]] heat ray, trying to stop the Autobots from [[Matter duplicator|matter-duplicating]] more Corrostop from the layer they sprayed on the statue. Superion defeated Menasor and destroyed the Lightning Bug. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}<br />
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After [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] was banished for yet another failed coup, he returned with a powerful new Decepticon team called the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], who were able to outfight Autobot and Decepticon alike. With Megatron needing a trump card, [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] attempted to call on the Stunticons to help, but they refused as they were having a demolition derby with various human-owned cars. However, the Stunticons belatedly arrived after the Combaticons' combined form of [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] defeated [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and forced Megatron to acknowledge Starscream as the new Decepticon leader. Realizing that Starscream would not stop at Megatron, the Stunticons merged into Menasor and disabled Bruticus in one mighty punch. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}<br />
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[[Image:Masquerade BreakdownWildriderdefeated.jpg|left|200px|thumb|How mortifrying!!]]<br />
In his next scheme, Megatron charged the Stunticons with bringing him the last key items for his new molecular disrupter cannon. Wildrider and his partner [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] broke into an optics laboratory and robbed a scientist of his experimental lenses for Megatron's weapon. Upon their escape, though, the Stunticons ran into [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], and [[Grapple]] blocking the road. Wildrider took the challenge and managed to just miss hitting the Autobots with his crazy driving, and dodge the missiles fired at him by Inferno. He tested his luck on a second drive-by, though, and was blasted into submission by Hoist. The Stunticons were all captured and imprisoned inside the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], while several Autobots employed camouflage paint to disguise themselves as the Stunticons, in a Trojan Horse ploy to find out what Megatron wanted with the components. The Autobot warrior [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] took Wildrider's place. After the Autobots took off, however, Breakdown managed to free his fellow Stunticons, and they all joined up to form Menasor, easily smashing through the remaining Autobots guarding them. As Menasor, they returned to Megatron and attempted to convince him they were the true Stunticons. Though ultimately successful, the Autobots had made alterations to the stolen components which caused Megatron's weapon to blow up in his face, and the Decepticons beat a hasty retreat. {{storylink|Masquerade}}<br />
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[[Image:BurdenHardesttoBear Stunticons Matrix.jpg|right|200px|thumb|And now I am Wildimus Prime!!]]<br />
After their exile to [[Chaar]] in 2006, the Stunticons had been reduced to fighting over scraps of energon with the other Decepticons. When [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] returned with the [[Sweep]]s, Wildrider expressed the threat that they had better have brought some energon with them. When questioned by Dead End what he would do if they hadn't, Wildrider was at a loss. Nevertheless, he donated his share of energon to revive [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}} When the Quintessons arrived offering them energon in exchange for defeating the Autobots, Wildrider was among those Decepticons who were incredulous of the terms due to their weakened state, but signed on regardless. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}}<br />
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Later, Wildrider and Dead End got into a street race with [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] in [[Japan]], ultimately forcing him off the road. After the crash, the two Stunticons found the [[Matrix of Leadership]] had been blown clear by the impact, and Wildrider brought it back to his leader, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}}<br />
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====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br />
{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in this continuity as detailed above, except the events of 2006 are pushed back to 2010. Japanese continuity inserts several new stories into the resultant gaps in the timeline.}}<br />
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=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====<br />
Wildrider and the Stunticons decided to have a little fun and tear up a baseball stadium in Japan. Luckily, the Autobots' plucky young ally [[Kenji]] was present to radio for assistance. All the combiner teams assembled, and it was Menasor and Bruticus against Superion and Defensor! Defensor was forced to break apart by the combined Decepticon attack, but Superion and Kenji got the idea to shoot out the Decepticons' legs. [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] and [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] took advantage of the empty combiner ports and took over as Menasor's legs, launching him into the ocean. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #5}}<br />
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While posing as Autobots, Wildrider, [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] and the Stunticons rampaged through the city streets, smearing the good name of their adversaries. Later, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] posed as humans to rally people against the Autobots, and Motormaster's brigade staged an attack on the rally to drive the point home. The Autobot fire engines [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] arrived, however, and used their water hoses to wash off the Decepticons' fake insignia. Enraged, Motormaster planned to combine into Menasor...only to see Wildrider and the rest of his men were already retreating into the distance. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #7}}<br />
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=====Scramble City=====<br />
Wildrider and the Stunticons were summoned by Megatron to put an end to the [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]] project, and succeeded where [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] had failed. Their first strike was impressive, holding back Optimus Prime and a cadre of Autobots and shooting the Aerialbots out of the skies. When the Aerialbots formed Superion, Wildrider and his teammates followed suit and merged into Menasor. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}<br />
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=====''The Great Transformer War''=====<br />
Galvatron kidnapped Doctor [[Dalton (G1)|Dalton]] of [[Eran]] to upgrade the might of his combiner warriors. When the Autobot combiners arrived to save Dalton, Wildrider and his teammates were deployed at high speeds from Motormaster's launcher mode. They met Superion in mid-air, and the force of their deployment enabled the combiner teams to tear him apart. The Stunticons then merged into Menasor to move in for the kill. They were ultimately outwitted by the Autobots, however, who rescued Dalton and safely returned to Metroplex. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1|The Great Transformer War #1}}<br />
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=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====<br />
Wildrider fought the Autobots on Earth under [[Sixshot]]'s command. They tried to prevent [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s troops from reaching the Space Bridge, but failed. He and the Stunticons soon arrived on Cybertron to participate in Galvatron's siege. They managed to gain the high ground against the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] and [[Throttlebot]]s, and rained laser fire down on their opponents. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} Wildrider and his team formed Menasor to fight their Autobot counterparts, but were steamrolled by the might and firepower of the Battleship Maximus. Transporting back to Earth, they attempted to interfere with [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]]'s quest for the Matrix. Wildrider and the Stunticons were confronted by the Aerialbots in the desert, but the battle of their combiner forms eventually led them to the Arctic. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}}<br />
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When [[Vector Sigma]] began perfecting the new super-metal [[Cybertonuron]] on Cybertron, Galvatron ordered another all-out attack on the planet to seize the metal for the Decepticons before the Autobots could make use of it. Wildrider and the Stunticons journeyed to Cybertron with the strike force, and confronted their old enemies, the Aerialbots. The Aerialbots got the drop on Wildrider's group by forming Superion and lashing out before the Stunticons could form Menasor as well. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Wildrider and the Stunticons were still in a firefight sometime later, as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] passed by looking for [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] and the Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}} In [[San Francisco]], Wildrider and the Stunticons assisted Bruticus in using [[buridanka|a carnivorous plant]] to distract the Autobots from [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s plans on [[Zarak (planet)|Zarak]]. They fought against the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] and [[Computron (G1)|Computron]]. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}}<br />
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Sometime later, Wildrider and the Stunticons gathered in the desert as their Ninja Commander Sixshot began issuing orders. They assembled as Menasor, and took part in the escalating Decepticon war effort as five separate Autobot outposts were attacked simultaneously at Sixshot's command. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}}<br />
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=====''Zone'' anime, manga and story pages=====<br />
Seeking to create a [[Decepticon Zone]] to counter the [[Micro|Autobot Zone]], [[Emperor of Destruction|Decepticon Emperor]] [[Violen Jiger]] gathered together the Nine Great Demon Generals, upgrading them with powerful new armor and weaponry, then sent them forth to conquer planets. Wildrider was among those summoned, but only as a part of Menasor. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 1}} {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (manga)|Zone}} {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}<br />
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===Marvel Generation 1 comics===<br />
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{{storylink|Second Generation!}}<br />
{{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br />
{{storylink|Totaled!}}<br />
{{storylink|Club Con!}}<br />
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{{charstubfiction}}<br />
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====Marvel UK future timelines====<br />
''In 2003, the Stunticons were recruited by [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] to steal some classified documents from the Autobots, about their upcoming plans for [[Autobot City]]. Wildrider and his cronies ran the courier, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], off the side of the road and beat him til he gave up the information. Then they beat up [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] because, well, it was fun.'' {{storylink|Ark Duty}}<br />
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''In 2008, Wildrider was among the Decepticon soldiers aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] when [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] was leading them in an assault on [[Autobase]].'' {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}<br />
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====Earthforce====<br />
{{earthforcefiction}}<br />
''Wildrider worked on [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s team when he and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] were vying for control of the Decepticons. He was seen at the [[Enclave]] before the fracas broke out.'' {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}}<br />
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''A poisoned [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] staggered into Wildrider's quarters, and gave him a tape of battle plans to transmit to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Wildrider assumed that Soundwave had been betrayed by traitors in Megatron's faction of Decepticons, and attempted to send the plans in secret. When Megatron saw him doing so, however, he assumed that the Stunticon was trying to send them to his rival Shockwave, making him the traitor who had betrayed him to Shockwave earlier. With one blast from his [[fusion cannon]], Megatron promptly killed him. Which was exactly what Soundwave (who had not been poisoned and was, in fact, the traitor) had planned. Harsh.'' {{storylink|Secrets (G1)|Secrets}}<br />
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===Dreamwave ''Generation 1'' comics===<br />
At some point in Cybertron's recent history, the Stunticons were deemed psychotic and too dangerous to function in society, and as a result were placed into perpetual stasis lock inside of a [[Detention Banks|prison facility]]. Later, in an attempt to create a diversion while he set his final plans in motion, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arranged for the release of the Stunticons. They formed into Menasor and ran amuck for awhile, until [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and began insulting them. Unable to reconcile with this, the five Stunticons began to bicker with each other over whose fault it was that they were failing, temporarily stopping Menasor and allowing Ultra Magnus to ram the combiner in the chest, forcing him to separate into his component parts and disabling the Stunticons. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}}<br />
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===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br />
Wildrider, the other Stunticons and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] were sent to 1930s [[Chicago]] when [[Teletran 3]] malfunctioned, and were left dormant in the forms of cars from that time. They were soon found and used by a criminal gang led by [[Tommy Fingers]], until a group of [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] and [[Cobra]] members arrived from the future to retrieve the lost Transformers and prevent the apocalypse. Wildrider, Dead End and Drag Strip were awakened by Breakdown, who wasn't so dormant after all, and started chasing Optimus Prime and the humans across the city. Eventually the two groups ran into Motormaster, and everyone were promptly transported back to present-day Cybertron. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}}<br />
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When [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] started reunifying the Decepticons into his own army, Wildrider and the other Stunticons were among his earliest recruits. They helped capture a group of Autobots and Joes that followed Serpent O.R. to Cybertron, then attacked an Autobot peace ceremony in the form of Menasor. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}} The giant used his Wildrider leg to stomp at least one innocent civilian to death. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}}<br />
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===IDW Generation 1 comics===<br />
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[[Image:MegatronOrigin3 DeadEnd Wildrider.jpg|right|200px|thumb|An optimistic Dead End? A mellow Wildrider?! What is this, some kind of alternate universe?!]]<br />
Wildrider was seen with other Stunticons entering the [[Kaon]] arena to join the newly-formed Decepticons for some good ol' fashioned civil disobedience. He also did us all a favor and told [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] to be quiet because, let's face it, a cheery and optimistic Dead End signals the coming of [[Unicron|the End of Days]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}}<br />
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Wildrider would later go with Breakdown to take out the pirate news broadcaster, Blaster, according to Soundwave's location. They attacked Blaster only to be defeated by the arriving Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Broadcast}}<br />
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Millions of years later, Wildrider was among the Decepticons captured by [[Skywatch]] after the Stunticons were abandoned on Earth. Luckily for him, he was soon rescued by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]'s splinter faction of Autobots and Decepticons trying to get off the planet. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}}<br />
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Wildrider and [[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] went on a mission to retrieve [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], the only Stunticon missing from their group. They were disgusted to find that their comrade was being driven by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|a human]], and Wildrider rammed him, telling Drag Strip that they could always fix him later. They met with some resistance from the human, but eventually recovered Breakdown and took him back to base. A few hours later, the Stunticons revealed that [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] had given them the ability to combine, and attacked their former Autobot allies in the form of [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. {{storylink|Enemies of the System}}<br />
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However, despite Menasor's power, his effectiveness as a warrior was stunted by the fact that his components kept arguing amongst themselves. The Autobots took note of this weakness and distracted the combiner by targeting the individual Stunticons, and eventually he was taken down by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. Like most of the Decepticons, Wildrider was taken into custody by Skywatch. {{storylink|Earthworks}}<br />
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Months later, the Stunticons were freed from their captivity when Decepticons under Megatron's command returned to Earth and attacked the Skywatch facility where they were held. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 1: The Demolished Man}} Then they got to Cybertron and were captured by the Autobots instead. {{storylink|The Autonomy Lesson}}<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
[[Image:G1Wildrider toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|If you don't buy this toy, then the terrorists have... lost, I guess?]]<br />
*'''Wildrider''' (Stunticon, 1986)<br />
**''Team ID number'': '''S3'''<br />
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-53'''<br />
**''Accessories'': "Scattershot gun", "plasma-energy blaster"<br />
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: Wildrider transforms into a dark grey Ferrari 308 GTB sports car. He comes with a large, black double-barreled "plasma-energy blaster" cannon that attaches onto the back of his vehicle mode.<br />
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: In robot mode, Wildrider is armed with a black "[[scatter blaster| scattershot gun]]" pistol. He usually forms Menasor's left leg, but as a [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style combiner limb, he can also occupy any other limb position.<br />
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*'''Menasor''' (Gift set, 1986)<br />
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-55'''<br />
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: Wildrider was also made available as part of a full Stunticon five-pack in the US, European and Japanese markets. All of the figures inside were identical to their individual releases.<br />
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===Generation 2===<br />
*'''Wildrider''' (Stunticon, Unreleased)<br />
**''Team ID number:'' '''S5'''<br />
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[[Image:G2-Wildrider.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Watch out! I'm bright!]]<br />
:For the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' line]], Hasbro intended to release [[Redeco|redecoes]] of the Stunticons in 1994, with Wildrider being cast primarily in yellow plastic, with blue and black accents. Ultimately, however, the toys never went into mass production and remained officially unreleased. Only the four limbs are known to have made it to the sample packaging stage, having turned up in very limited numbers over the years (with the exception of ''Generation 2'' [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], who was available at [[BotCon 1994]] in somewhat larger quantities). All the ''Generation 2'' Stunticons are known to catch high prices on the secondary market.<ref>[http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Prototypes/Generation2/StuntsWilderiderProtoMOSC1.html Photos of Generation 2 Wildrider in sample packaging at Toyarchive.com]</ref><ref>[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/1533/Generation+2/Wildrider.html Mirrored photos of Generation 2 Wildrider in sample packaging at Transformers @ The Moon]</ref><br />
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===Gentei! Gentei!===<br />
[[Image:Wildrider gentei.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Just give him the [[facial hair|goatee]] and be done with it, really.]]<br />
*'''Stuntron Wildrider''' (Deluxe, 2008)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Rocket engine/missile launcher, flame missile<br />
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: An [[exclusive]] item from the "Chara Hobby 2008" show in Japan on August 30th, 2008, Wildrider is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Rodimus]] with a very vaguely Wildrider-inspired color scheme (but retaining all of ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' Rodimus' [[paint operation]]s, including the flames), transforming into a Dome Zero concept car. His rear "thruster" fires a spring-loaded missile, and the back section can be flipped up to turn it into a roof-mounted weapon. The thruster becomes a hand-held blaster in robot mode, and can also be mounted on his back as a "jetpack". His left arm hides a flip-out (non-spinning) buzzsaw.<br />
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: This mold was also used to make the evil ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Side Burn (G1)|Side Burn]].<br />
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{{note|"Gentei!" is Japanese for "exclusive", and a pun on the normal "Henkei!" line-name.}}<br />
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==Notes==<br />
* In 2005, the mold used for ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese ''Binaltech'' line. Originally, Takara intended to name their version of the toy "Wildrider", possibly because the Hasbro version's deco resembled the unreleased ''Generation 2'' Wildrider toy's color scheme. However, Takara ultimately had to abandon that idea because they couldn't get the trademark. Instead, they decided to give the toy an entirely new deco, as the Hasbro toy's deco didn't appear to their ideal of "real-life accuracy". In robot mode, the toy was given a color scheme based on the Transmetal 2 incarnation of Beast Wars [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], with the toy's name being changed to "Black Widow", Takara's name for the character. Ultimately, however, Takara decided to cancel the toy altogether, as they were fearing that another redeco (in addition to the upcoming Binaltech Asterisk toys) would be too repetitive. Plans to release the toy as part of a different line were dropped.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/5d6d41f6d6b3f57e/ Doug Dlin relaying a response from Hirofimi Ichikawa regarding the fate of the Honda S2000 redeco at alt.toys.transformers]</ref> [[Arcee (G1)|Then they apparently changed their minds again.]]<br />
* A redeco of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Brakedown (ROTF)|Brakedown]] in the Asian-exlusive ''[[Transformers:_Generations|Generations]]'' line (later picked up for American release by Toys R Us) in 2012 is named Dead End and has a bio fitting the character's name. However, his color scheme and tech specs are both clearly patterned off of Wildrider. <br />
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===Foreign names===<br />
*''Japanese:'' '''Wildrider''' (ワイルドライダー ''Wairudoraidā'')<br />
*''French:'' '''Faroucho''' (Canada)<br />
*''Italian:'' '''Squalo''' ("Shark")<br />
*''Russian:'' '''Bezumec''' (Безумец, "Madman")<br />
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==References==<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Wildrider/wildrider.htm Wildrider at TFU.info]<br />
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Wildrider Wildrider's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br />
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[[Category:The Headmasters Decepticons]]</div>Larkmarnhttps://tfwiki.duckdns.org/index.php?title=Wildrider_(G1)&diff=765135Wildrider (G1)2012-11-01T13:21:07Z<p>Larkmarn: /* Notes */</p>
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:''Wildrider is a [[Decepticon]] [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''<br />
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[[Image:MTMTEWildrider.jpg|right|300px|thumb|When slow people race Wildrider, THE TERRORISTS WIN.]]<br />
What [[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] does for air travel '''Wildrider''' does for the roadways. The difference is that the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]] honestly means no harm and this insanely wild-riding [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticon]] most definitely does. Some of his Decepticon comrades suspect him of playing insane to enhance his street cred, but those who have come to know him the best realize that it's no act. Wildrider really is as crazy as they come and a very real danger to anything on the road with him. Even his fellow Stunticons are wary of driving anywhere near him.<br />
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Wildrider combines with his fellow Stunticons to form [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]].<br />
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{{bigquote|I'm Wildrider, and I wanna bust something up!|Wildrider, crazy as they come|"[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1]]"}}<br />
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==Fiction==<br />
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===<br />
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====<br />
:''Voice actor:'' [[Terry McGovern]] (English), [[Yū Shimaka|Yutaka Shimaka]] (Japanese), [[Héctor Vieyra]] (Spanish), [[Hans-Rainer Müller]] (German, "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1"), [[Peter Musäus]] (German, "The Burden Hardest to Bear"), [[Willy Schäfer]] (German, ''Generation 2'' "Starscreams Brigade"), [[Niko Macoulis]] (German, ''Generation 2'' "Masquerade")<br />
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[[Image:TransEuropeExpress riding Wildrider.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Not Mr. Toad.]]<br />
After a failed attempt to steal experimental rocket fuel from [[United States military]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] realized that while the Decepticons controlled the skies, the Autobots had supremacy on the ground, and so they needed new ground-based warriors who could out-drive and out-fight the Autobots on their terms. [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] was sent to steal various [[human]] vehicles that would be rebuilt in the new Stunticons. The Decepticons journeyed to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], beat the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] out of [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]]'s possession and ordered the [[Vector Sigma|ancient supercomputer]] to give life to the Stunticons. While the other Stunticons pledged their loyalty to Megatron, Wildrider merely stated his desire for destruction. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} Whilst the Autobots were trapped on Cybertron, the Decepticons returned to [[Earth]] with the newly awakened Stunticons, who began wreaking havoc and damaging the Autobots' good name by attacking the US military base containing the experimental rocket fuel. Eventually, the Autobots returned with the newly built [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] whose combined form Superion defeated the Stunticon combiner Menasor. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}<br />
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When the Autobots got involved in the fake [[Europa 2000]] charity race he had set up, Megatron needed them removed from the playing field to stop any interference with his plans to dig up the [[Pearl of Bahoudin]] and steal an experimental car engine from [[Auggie Cahnay (G1)|Auggie Cahnay]], the top US driver. He had the Stunticons intercept and eliminate the Autobots, and Wildrider helped disable [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] with his fellow Decepticons. [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] refused to just lay down, though, dodging the Stunticons' ramming attacks and jumping atop Wildrider's hood. The crazy Stunticon eventually shook Bluestreak off by just crashing hood-first into a mountain at over 150 mph. Afterwards, the Stunticons were defeated when Cahnay rammed his car into Menasor’s face. {{storylink|Trans-Europe Express}}<br />
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[[Image:CosmicRust Wildrider speedboat.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The Hate Boat/Soon will be making another round...]]<br />
When Megatron was infected with [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]] after a trip to the lost Autobot colony of [[Antilla]], the Stunticons were assigned to capture the Autobot scientist [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], who had developed the powerful anti-corrosion [[Corrostop]]. Wildrider drove a speedboat while Drag Strip water skied behind him. After Megatron cured himself and infected the Autobots with the Cosmic Rust, Menasor attacked the Statue of Liberty in [[New York City]] with the ancient [[Lightning Bug]] heat ray, trying to stop the Autobots from [[Matter duplicator|matter-duplicating]] more Corrostop from the layer they sprayed on the statue. Superion defeated Menasor and destroyed the Lightning Bug. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}<br />
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After [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] was banished for yet another failed coup, he returned with a powerful new Decepticon team called the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], who were able to outfight Autobot and Decepticon alike. With Megatron needing a trump card, [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] attempted to call on the Stunticons to help, but they refused as they were having a demolition derby with various human-owned cars. However, the Stunticons belatedly arrived after the Combaticons' combined form of [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] defeated [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and forced Megatron to acknowledge Starscream as the new Decepticon leader. Realizing that Starscream would not stop at Megatron, the Stunticons merged into Menasor and disabled Bruticus in one mighty punch. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}<br />
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[[Image:Masquerade BreakdownWildriderdefeated.jpg|left|200px|thumb|How mortifrying!!]]<br />
In his next scheme, Megatron charged the Stunticons with bringing him the last key items for his new molecular disrupter cannon. Wildrider and his partner [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] broke into an optics laboratory and robbed a scientist of his experimental lenses for Megatron's weapon. Upon their escape, though, the Stunticons ran into [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]], [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], and [[Grapple]] blocking the road. Wildrider took the challenge and managed to just miss hitting the Autobots with his crazy driving, and dodge the missiles fired at him by Inferno. He tested his luck on a second drive-by, though, and was blasted into submission by Hoist. The Stunticons were all captured and imprisoned inside the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], while several Autobots employed camouflage paint to disguise themselves as the Stunticons, in a Trojan Horse ploy to find out what Megatron wanted with the components. The Autobot warrior [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] took Wildrider's place. After the Autobots took off, however, Breakdown managed to free his fellow Stunticons, and they all joined up to form Menasor, easily smashing through the remaining Autobots guarding them. As Menasor, they returned to Megatron and attempted to convince him they were the true Stunticons. Though ultimately successful, the Autobots had made alterations to the stolen components which caused Megatron's weapon to blow up in his face, and the Decepticons beat a hasty retreat. {{storylink|Masquerade}}<br />
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[[Image:BurdenHardesttoBear Stunticons Matrix.jpg|right|200px|thumb|And now I am Wildimus Prime!!]]<br />
After their exile to [[Chaar]] in 2006, the Stunticons had been reduced to fighting over scraps of energon with the other Decepticons. When [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] returned with the [[Sweep]]s, Wildrider expressed the threat that they had better have brought some energon with them. When questioned by Dead End what he would do if they hadn't, Wildrider was at a loss. Nevertheless, he donated his share of energon to revive [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}} When the Quintessons arrived offering them energon in exchange for defeating the Autobots, Wildrider was among those Decepticons who were incredulous of the terms due to their weakened state, but signed on regardless. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}}<br />
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Later, Wildrider and Dead End got into a street race with [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] in [[Japan]], ultimately forcing him off the road. After the crash, the two Stunticons found the [[Matrix of Leadership]] had been blown clear by the impact, and Wildrider brought it back to his leader, [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}}<br />
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====Japanese cartoon continuity====<br />
{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in this continuity as detailed above, except the events of 2006 are pushed back to 2010. Japanese continuity inserts several new stories into the resultant gaps in the timeline.}}<br />
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=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====<br />
Wildrider and the Stunticons decided to have a little fun and tear up a baseball stadium in Japan. Luckily, the Autobots' plucky young ally [[Kenji]] was present to radio for assistance. All the combiner teams assembled, and it was Menasor and Bruticus against Superion and Defensor! Defensor was forced to break apart by the combined Decepticon attack, but Superion and Kenji got the idea to shoot out the Decepticons' legs. [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] and [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] took advantage of the empty combiner ports and took over as Menasor's legs, launching him into the ocean. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #5}}<br />
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While posing as Autobots, Wildrider, [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] and the Stunticons rampaged through the city streets, smearing the good name of their adversaries. Later, [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] posed as humans to rally people against the Autobots, and Motormaster's brigade staged an attack on the rally to drive the point home. The Autobot fire engines [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] arrived, however, and used their water hoses to wash off the Decepticons' fake insignia. Enraged, Motormaster planned to combine into Menasor...only to see Wildrider and the rest of his men were already retreating into the distance. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #7}}<br />
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=====Scramble City=====<br />
Wildrider and the Stunticons were summoned by Megatron to put an end to the [[Metroplex (G1)|Scramble City]] project, and succeeded where [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] had failed. Their first strike was impressive, holding back Optimus Prime and a cadre of Autobots and shooting the Aerialbots out of the skies. When the Aerialbots formed Superion, Wildrider and his teammates followed suit and merged into Menasor. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}<br />
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=====''The Great Transformer War''=====<br />
Galvatron kidnapped Doctor [[Dalton (G1)|Dalton]] of [[Eran]] to upgrade the might of his combiner warriors. When the Autobot combiners arrived to save Dalton, Wildrider and his teammates were deployed at high speeds from Motormaster's launcher mode. They met Superion in mid-air, and the force of their deployment enabled the combiner teams to tear him apart. The Stunticons then merged into Menasor to move in for the kill. They were ultimately outwitted by the Autobots, however, who rescued Dalton and safely returned to Metroplex. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1|The Great Transformer War #1}}<br />
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=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====<br />
Wildrider fought the Autobots on Earth under [[Sixshot]]'s command. They tried to prevent [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s troops from reaching the Space Bridge, but failed. He and the Stunticons soon arrived on Cybertron to participate in Galvatron's siege. They managed to gain the high ground against the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] and [[Throttlebot]]s, and rained laser fire down on their opponents. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} Wildrider and his team formed Menasor to fight their Autobot counterparts, but were steamrolled by the might and firepower of the Battleship Maximus. Transporting back to Earth, they attempted to interfere with [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]]'s quest for the Matrix. Wildrider and the Stunticons were confronted by the Aerialbots in the desert, but the battle of their combiner forms eventually led them to the Arctic. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}}<br />
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When [[Vector Sigma]] began perfecting the new super-metal [[Cybertonuron]] on Cybertron, Galvatron ordered another all-out attack on the planet to seize the metal for the Decepticons before the Autobots could make use of it. Wildrider and the Stunticons journeyed to Cybertron with the strike force, and confronted their old enemies, the Aerialbots. The Aerialbots got the drop on Wildrider's group by forming Superion and lashing out before the Stunticons could form Menasor as well. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Wildrider and the Stunticons were still in a firefight sometime later, as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] passed by looking for [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] and the Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]]. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}} In [[San Francisco]], Wildrider and the Stunticons assisted Bruticus in using [[buridanka|a carnivorous plant]] to distract the Autobots from [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s plans on [[Zarak (planet)|Zarak]]. They fought against the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] and [[Computron (G1)|Computron]]. {{storylink|Head On!! Fortress Maximus}}<br />
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Sometime later, Wildrider and the Stunticons gathered in the desert as their Ninja Commander Sixshot began issuing orders. They assembled as Menasor, and took part in the escalating Decepticon war effort as five separate Autobot outposts were attacked simultaneously at Sixshot's command. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}}<br />
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=====''Zone'' anime, manga and story pages=====<br />
Seeking to create a [[Decepticon Zone]] to counter the [[Micro|Autobot Zone]], [[Emperor of Destruction|Decepticon Emperor]] [[Violen Jiger]] gathered together the Nine Great Demon Generals, upgrading them with powerful new armor and weaponry, then sent them forth to conquer planets. Wildrider was among those summoned, but only as a part of Menasor. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)|Zone Part 1}} {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (manga)|Zone}} {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}<br />
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===Marvel Generation 1 comics===<br />
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{{storylink|Second Generation!}}<br />
{{storylink|Heavy Traffic!}}<br />
{{storylink|Totaled!}}<br />
{{storylink|Club Con!}}<br />
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====Marvel UK future timelines====<br />
''In 2003, the Stunticons were recruited by [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] to steal some classified documents from the Autobots, about their upcoming plans for [[Autobot City]]. Wildrider and his cronies ran the courier, [[Kup (G1)|Kup]], off the side of the road and beat him til he gave up the information. Then they beat up [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] because, well, it was fun.'' {{storylink|Ark Duty}}<br />
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''In 2008, Wildrider was among the Decepticon soldiers aboard [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] when [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] was leading them in an assault on [[Autobase]].'' {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}<br />
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====Earthforce====<br />
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''Wildrider worked on [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]'s team when he and [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] were vying for control of the Decepticons. He was seen at the [[Enclave]] before the fracas broke out.'' {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}}<br />
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''A poisoned [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] staggered into Wildrider's quarters, and gave him a tape of battle plans to transmit to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Wildrider assumed that Soundwave had been betrayed by traitors in Megatron's faction of Decepticons, and attempted to send the plans in secret. When Megatron saw him doing so, however, he assumed that the Stunticon was trying to send them to his rival Shockwave, making him the traitor who had betrayed him to Shockwave earlier. With one blast from his [[fusion cannon]], Megatron promptly killed him. Which was exactly what Soundwave (who had not been poisoned and was, in fact, the traitor) had planned. Harsh.'' {{storylink|Secrets (G1)|Secrets}}<br />
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===Dreamwave ''Generation 1'' comics===<br />
At some point in Cybertron's recent history, the Stunticons were deemed psychotic and too dangerous to function in society, and as a result were placed into perpetual stasis lock inside of a [[Detention Banks|prison facility]]. Later, in an attempt to create a diversion while he set his final plans in motion, [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] arranged for the release of the Stunticons. They formed into Menasor and ran amuck for awhile, until [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] arrived and began insulting them. Unable to reconcile with this, the five Stunticons began to bicker with each other over whose fault it was that they were failing, temporarily stopping Menasor and allowing Ultra Magnus to ram the combiner in the chest, forcing him to separate into his component parts and disabling the Stunticons. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}}<br />
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===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===<br />
Wildrider, the other Stunticons and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] were sent to 1930s [[Chicago]] when [[Teletran 3]] malfunctioned, and were left dormant in the forms of cars from that time. They were soon found and used by a criminal gang led by [[Tommy Fingers]], until a group of [[G.I. Joe (team)|Joes]] and [[Cobra]] members arrived from the future to retrieve the lost Transformers and prevent the apocalypse. Wildrider, Dead End and Drag Strip were awakened by Breakdown, who wasn't so dormant after all, and started chasing Optimus Prime and the humans across the city. Eventually the two groups ran into Motormaster, and everyone were promptly transported back to present-day Cybertron. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}}<br />
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When [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] started reunifying the Decepticons into his own army, Wildrider and the other Stunticons were among his earliest recruits. They helped capture a group of Autobots and Joes that followed Serpent O.R. to Cybertron, then attacked an Autobot peace ceremony in the form of Menasor. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}} The giant used his Wildrider leg to stomp at least one innocent civilian to death. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 4|The Art of War #4}}<br />
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===IDW Generation 1 comics===<br />
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[[Image:MegatronOrigin3 DeadEnd Wildrider.jpg|right|200px|thumb|An optimistic Dead End? A mellow Wildrider?! What is this, some kind of alternate universe?!]]<br />
Wildrider was seen with other Stunticons entering the [[Kaon]] arena to join the newly-formed Decepticons for some good ol' fashioned civil disobedience. He also did us all a favor and told [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] to be quiet because, let's face it, a cheery and optimistic Dead End signals the coming of [[Unicron|the End of Days]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}}<br />
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Wildrider would later go with Breakdown to take out the pirate news broadcaster, Blaster, according to Soundwave's location. They attacked Blaster only to be defeated by the arriving Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Broadcast}}<br />
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Millions of years later, Wildrider was among the Decepticons captured by [[Skywatch]] after the Stunticons were abandoned on Earth. Luckily for him, he was soon rescued by [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]'s splinter faction of Autobots and Decepticons trying to get off the planet. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}}<br />
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Wildrider and [[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] went on a mission to retrieve [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], the only Stunticon missing from their group. They were disgusted to find that their comrade was being driven by [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|a human]], and Wildrider rammed him, telling Drag Strip that they could always fix him later. They met with some resistance from the human, but eventually recovered Breakdown and took him back to base. A few hours later, the Stunticons revealed that [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] had given them the ability to combine, and attacked their former Autobot allies in the form of [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. {{storylink|Enemies of the System}}<br />
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However, despite Menasor's power, his effectiveness as a warrior was stunted by the fact that his components kept arguing amongst themselves. The Autobots took note of this weakness and distracted the combiner by targeting the individual Stunticons, and eventually he was taken down by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. Like most of the Decepticons, Wildrider was taken into custody by Skywatch. {{storylink|Earthworks}}<br />
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Months later, the Stunticons were freed from their captivity when Decepticons under Megatron's command returned to Earth and attacked the Skywatch facility where they were held. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 1: The Demolished Man}} Then they got to Cybertron and were captured by the Autobots instead. {{storylink|The Autonomy Lesson}}<br />
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==Toys==<br />
===Generation 1===<br />
[[Image:G1Wildrider toy.jpg|right|250px|thumb|If you don't buy this toy, then the terrorists have... lost, I guess?]]<br />
*'''Wildrider''' (Stunticon, 1986)<br />
**''Team ID number'': '''S3'''<br />
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-53'''<br />
**''Accessories'': "Scattershot gun", "plasma-energy blaster"<br />
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: Wildrider transforms into a dark grey Ferrari 308 GTB sports car. He comes with a large, black double-barreled "plasma-energy blaster" cannon that attaches onto the back of his vehicle mode.<br />
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: In robot mode, Wildrider is armed with a black "[[scatter blaster| scattershot gun]]" pistol. He usually forms Menasor's left leg, but as a [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style combiner limb, he can also occupy any other limb position.<br />
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*'''Menasor''' (Gift set, 1986)<br />
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-55'''<br />
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: Wildrider was also made available as part of a full Stunticon five-pack in the US, European and Japanese markets. All of the figures inside were identical to their individual releases.<br />
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===Generation 2===<br />
*'''Wildrider''' (Stunticon, Unreleased)<br />
**''Team ID number:'' '''S5'''<br />
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[[Image:G2-Wildrider.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Watch out! I'm bright!]]<br />
:For the [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' line]], Hasbro intended to release [[Redeco|redecoes]] of the Stunticons in 1994, with Wildrider being cast primarily in yellow plastic, with blue and black accents. Ultimately, however, the toys never went into mass production and remained officially unreleased. Only the four limbs are known to have made it to the sample packaging stage, having turned up in very limited numbers over the years (with the exception of ''Generation 2'' [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], who was available at [[BotCon 1994]] in somewhat larger quantities). All the ''Generation 2'' Stunticons are known to catch high prices on the secondary market.<ref>[http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Prototypes/Generation2/StuntsWilderiderProtoMOSC1.html Photos of Generation 2 Wildrider in sample packaging at Toyarchive.com]</ref><ref>[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-toys/toy-gallery/1533/Generation+2/Wildrider.html Mirrored photos of Generation 2 Wildrider in sample packaging at Transformers @ The Moon]</ref><br />
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===Gentei! Gentei!===<br />
[[Image:Wildrider gentei.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Just give him the [[facial hair|goatee]] and be done with it, really.]]<br />
*'''Stuntron Wildrider''' (Deluxe, 2008)<br />
**''Accessories:'' Rocket engine/missile launcher, flame missile<br />
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: An [[exclusive]] item from the "Chara Hobby 2008" show in Japan on August 30th, 2008, Wildrider is a [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Rodimus]] with a very vaguely Wildrider-inspired color scheme (but retaining all of ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' Rodimus' [[paint operation]]s, including the flames), transforming into a Dome Zero concept car. His rear "thruster" fires a spring-loaded missile, and the back section can be flipped up to turn it into a roof-mounted weapon. The thruster becomes a hand-held blaster in robot mode, and can also be mounted on his back as a "jetpack". His left arm hides a flip-out (non-spinning) buzzsaw.<br />
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: This mold was also used to make the evil ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Side Burn (G1)|Side Burn]].<br />
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{{note|"Gentei!" is Japanese for "exclusive", and a pun on the normal "Henkei!" line-name.}}<br />
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==Notes==<br />
* In 2005, the mold used for ''[[Transformers: Alternators|Alternators]]'' [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese ''Binaltech'' line. Originally, Takara intended to name their version of the toy "Wildrider", possibly because the Hasbro version's deco resembled the unreleased ''Generation 2'' Wildrider toy's color scheme. However, Takara ultimately had to abandon that idea because they couldn't get the trademark. Instead, they decided to give the toy an entirely new deco, as the Hasbro toy's deco didn't appear to their ideal of "real-life accuracy". In robot mode, the toy was given a color scheme based on the Transmetal 2 incarnation of Beast Wars [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], with the toy's name being changed to "Black Widow", Takara's name for the character. Ultimately, however, Takara decided to cancel the toy altogether, as they were fearing that another redeco (in addition to the upcoming Binaltech Asterisk toys) would be too repetitive. Plans to release the toy as part of a different line were dropped.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/5d6d41f6d6b3f57e/ Doug Dlin relaying a response from Hirofimi Ichikawa regarding the fate of the Honda S2000 redeco at alt.toys.transformers]</ref> [[Arcee (G1)|Then they apparently changed their minds again.]]<br />
* A redeco of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' [[Brakedown (ROTF)|Brakedown]] in the Asian-exlusive ''[[Transformers:_Generations|Generations]] line (later picked up for American release by Toys R Us) in 2012 is named Dead End and has a bio fitting the character's name. However, his color scheme and tech specs are both clearly patterned off of Wildrider. <br />
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===Foreign names===<br />
*''Japanese:'' '''Wildrider''' (ワイルドライダー ''Wairudoraidā'')<br />
*''French:'' '''Faroucho''' (Canada)<br />
*''Italian:'' '''Squalo''' ("Shark")<br />
*''Russian:'' '''Bezumec''' (Безумец, "Madman")<br />
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==References==<br />
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==External links==<br />
*[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Wildrider/wildrider.htm Wildrider at TFU.info]<br />
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&amp;char=Wildrider Wildrider's Universe profile at NTFA.net]<br />
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