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Leathurkatt: /* Other Types of Rabid Fantards? */

Why do I get the feeling that this page is going to become a war zone? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's raping our childhoods? [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 00:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

What we should do is find that New York Post (or whichever is the NY tabloid) article about the guy who proudly refuses to watch the movie, and made the vaugley threatening comment that Hollywood shouldn't mess with HIS childhood. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought people were more mad over the fact that movie Optimus had a mouth...?
:I doubt it. He wasn't even the first one. Optimus Primal and Cybertron Optimus Prime both had mouths. - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 07:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, on TFW, at least, using this term is now equatable to using the N-word in the minds of a number of fans... Any other board have this problem, and if they do, should this be added?[[Special:Contributions/67.242.198.238|67.242.198.238]] 22:15, 15 January 2010 (EST)
:I have to admit, I'd be a bit put out if I discovered my sister was dating a Geewunner. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:24, 15 January 2010 (EST)
:It is? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 06:57, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::Then those fans are stupid. And obviously fat white guys. Now, if the term is a bannable offense somewhere, that might be worth caring about. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:30, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::Uh, yeah. While that's not the worst "first-world problems" bullshit I've ever heard in my life, it's pretty high up there, just as much as "raped my childhood". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:44, 16 January 2010 (EST)

== We need a article on fan snark ==

It's heavily implied but never outright stated...while we have pages dedicated to deader than dirt catchphrase unearthed on decade old newgroups posts. To make a long story short, after reading this wiki for years I think the snarks come off as more bitter and loud than they whiners they dump on. {{unsigned|67.159.36.27}}
:We have a page for a deader-than-dirt catchphrase? Which one? --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 12:00, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
::I think this refers to this page. I also think this anon may have been Cliffjumper. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:46, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Ah, see, I was thinking the anon was somehow under the impression that "Trukk not munky" was long-forgotten or something. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 10:50, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

::::The anon wasn't me. But feel free to continue second-guessing things. [[Special:Contributions/79.74.86.73|79.74.86.73]] 07:14, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

== Anyone have a copy of that first use? ==

It seems like Cliffjumper retracted his old post where he first used the term "Geewun" sometime in July, so the link to it isn't all that informative anymore. Is there some kind of copy or cached version we could link to instead? --[[Special:Contributions/161.253.51.49|161.253.51.49]] 10:11, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

P.S. to the above- Judging by the content of the recently edited version of Cliffjumper's post, I think he doesn't like this page all that much. Ironic, isn't it?--[[Special:Contributions/161.253.51.49|161.253.51.49]] 10:18, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
:I don't see what Cliffjumper's problem is. We aren't making fun of the fact that people mis-remember, we are making fun of people who place their flawed memories above the facts even when the facts are carefully explained to them. It is this inability to accept error and change that is worthy of derision not their ignorance (in the pure, non-pejorative sense of lack of knowledge) that we are railing against. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:25, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
::I don't get it either, because it's exactly as Khajidha says. We aren't making fun of people for misremembering. We're making fun of them for not being able to ADMIT that they are or even could possibly be misremembering when presented with sound reasoning for why. I found an archived version at the Wayback Machine and changed the link. Should we note the reason for using the archived version? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:44, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
::I don't see why not- linking to the version that was up earlier just confused me, which is why I brought this up earlier. --[[Special:Contributions/161.253.51.49|161.253.51.49]] 11:07, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

== The ultimate Geewunner ==

[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/615489-what-characters-killed-g1.html Transformers was ruined FOREVER in 1985!]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 14:38, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

== Cracked.com ==

Would it be worth mentioning that any article cracked.com makes that touches on Transformers has a clear Geewun viewpoint? I can provide examples if necessary, but a quick search of "transformers" or "michael bay" should be sufficient.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 14:08, 28 August 2012 (EDT)
:No, not really. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:57, 28 August 2012 (EDT)

== Other Types of Rabid Fantards? ==

Are there fan group terms that center on people who '''only like''' certain continuities like Movie verse, TFA, Unicron Trilogy, or whatever to the exclusion of all else? The only terms I keep coming across are Geewunners and Geewhiners. If there are, why not at least list them either within the [[Fandom page]] or make a page for just the terms for different kinds of fans? Thus far, these are all the terms for fan groups I've come across:

<blockquote>TRANSFANS: Your average Transformers fan. 
TRANSGEEKS: Transfans who get into the deeper aspects of TF, such as character back stories, Cybertronian history, technical aspects, and even Cosplay and Role Playing. 
SLAGGING TRANSFANS: Militant TF fans who rage their hostility at anything not TF related, especially anything MLP related. These are also the same people who rage at other TF fans because they like or don't like certain characters, continuities, whatever; or rage at anyone who has/doesn't have certain TF related toys/merchandise. They also pull the "I'm better than you" card against other fans. 
GEEWUNNERS: Militant TF fans who rage their hostility at anything not G1 related or anyone who doesn't like G1. These are a subgroup of Slagging Transfans. 
GEEWHINERSs: Especially whiny Geewunners who often pull the victim card whenever someone uses the "Geewunners" term. 
TRANSWHORE: Rabid TF fans who have an obsessive desire to do anything Transformers to the point of distraction and with such great intensity to the point of fetishism. This obsession is often to the exclusion of all else. 
SPARKERS: Typically adult TF fans who are not afraid of the more "sexual" aspects of the fandom, generally to PG13 rating, including TF romances and relationships. "Well, at least you acknowledge the fact that TF's, though fictional, have emotions and relationships."
These can include fans who fall in love with certain characters beyond simply being a favourite. 
HIGH VOLTAGE SPARKERS: Typically adult TF fans who take TF to the level of XXX rating. This can also include fans who want to/like to have sex with their TF's.</blockquote>

Are there others I was not aware of that I have not yet found? Incidentally, I chose to use the term SLAGGING instead of the F-Word to keep it less offensive to others, especially since I've never seen contemporary swearing on the wiki (outside of the S-Word reference from the 1986 movie). [[User:Leathurkatt|Lifetime Transfan since 1984.]] 17:14, 18 May 2013 (EDT)

Talk:GEEWUN

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Leathurkatt:

Why do I get the feeling that this page is going to become a war zone? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 23:15, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's raping our childhoods? [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 00:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

What we should do is find that New York Post (or whichever is the NY tabloid) article about the guy who proudly refuses to watch the movie, and made the vaugley threatening comment that Hollywood shouldn't mess with HIS childhood. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:18, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

I thought people were more mad over the fact that movie Optimus had a mouth...?
:I doubt it. He wasn't even the first one. Optimus Primal and Cybertron Optimus Prime both had mouths. - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 07:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, on TFW, at least, using this term is now equatable to using the N-word in the minds of a number of fans... Any other board have this problem, and if they do, should this be added?[[Special:Contributions/67.242.198.238|67.242.198.238]] 22:15, 15 January 2010 (EST)
:I have to admit, I'd be a bit put out if I discovered my sister was dating a Geewunner. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 23:24, 15 January 2010 (EST)
:It is? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 06:57, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::Then those fans are stupid. And obviously fat white guys. Now, if the term is a bannable offense somewhere, that might be worth caring about. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:30, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::Uh, yeah. While that's not the worst "first-world problems" bullshit I've ever heard in my life, it's pretty high up there, just as much as "raped my childhood". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:44, 16 January 2010 (EST)

== We need a article on fan snark ==

It's heavily implied but never outright stated...while we have pages dedicated to deader than dirt catchphrase unearthed on decade old newgroups posts. To make a long story short, after reading this wiki for years I think the snarks come off as more bitter and loud than they whiners they dump on. {{unsigned|67.159.36.27}}
:We have a page for a deader-than-dirt catchphrase? Which one? --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 12:00, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
::I think this refers to this page. I also think this anon may have been Cliffjumper. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:46, 25 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Ah, see, I was thinking the anon was somehow under the impression that "Trukk not munky" was long-forgotten or something. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 10:50, 26 September 2011 (EDT)

::::The anon wasn't me. But feel free to continue second-guessing things. [[Special:Contributions/79.74.86.73|79.74.86.73]] 07:14, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

== Anyone have a copy of that first use? ==

It seems like Cliffjumper retracted his old post where he first used the term "Geewun" sometime in July, so the link to it isn't all that informative anymore. Is there some kind of copy or cached version we could link to instead? --[[Special:Contributions/161.253.51.49|161.253.51.49]] 10:11, 24 September 2011 (EDT)

P.S. to the above- Judging by the content of the recently edited version of Cliffjumper's post, I think he doesn't like this page all that much. Ironic, isn't it?--[[Special:Contributions/161.253.51.49|161.253.51.49]] 10:18, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
:I don't see what Cliffjumper's problem is. We aren't making fun of the fact that people mis-remember, we are making fun of people who place their flawed memories above the facts even when the facts are carefully explained to them. It is this inability to accept error and change that is worthy of derision not their ignorance (in the pure, non-pejorative sense of lack of knowledge) that we are railing against. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:25, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
::I don't get it either, because it's exactly as Khajidha says. We aren't making fun of people for misremembering. We're making fun of them for not being able to ADMIT that they are or even could possibly be misremembering when presented with sound reasoning for why. I found an archived version at the Wayback Machine and changed the link. Should we note the reason for using the archived version? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:44, 24 September 2011 (EDT)
::I don't see why not- linking to the version that was up earlier just confused me, which is why I brought this up earlier. --[[Special:Contributions/161.253.51.49|161.253.51.49]] 11:07, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

== The ultimate Geewunner ==

[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/615489-what-characters-killed-g1.html Transformers was ruined FOREVER in 1985!]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 14:38, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

== Cracked.com ==

Would it be worth mentioning that any article cracked.com makes that touches on Transformers has a clear Geewun viewpoint? I can provide examples if necessary, but a quick search of "transformers" or "michael bay" should be sufficient.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 14:08, 28 August 2012 (EDT)
:No, not really. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:57, 28 August 2012 (EDT)

== Other Types of Rabid Fantards? ==

Are there fan group terms that center on people who '''only like''' certain continuities like Movie verse, TFA, Unicron Trilogy, or whatever to the exclusion of all else? The only terms I keep coming across are Geewunners and Geewhiners. If there are, why not at least list them either within the [[Fandom page]] or make a page for just the terms for different kinds of fans? Thus far, these are all the terms for fan groups I've come across:

<blockquote>TRANSFANS: Your average Transformers fan.
TRANSGEEKS: Transfans who get into the deeper aspects of TF, such as character back stories, Cybertronian history, technical aspects, and even Cosplay and Role Playing.
SLAGGING TRANSFANS: Militant TF fans who rage their hostility at anything not TF related, especially anything MLP related. These are also the same people who rage at other TF fans because they like or don't like certain characters, continuities, whatever; or rage at anyone who has/doesn't have certain TF related toys/merchandise. They also pull the "I'm better than you" card against other fans.
GEEWUNNERS: Militant TF fans who rage their hostility at anything not G1 related or anyone who doesn't like G1. These are a subgroup of Slagging Transfans.
GEEWHINERSs: Especially whiny Geewunners who often pull the victim card whenever someone uses the "Geewunners" term.
TRANSWHORE: Rabid TF fans who have an obsessive desire to do anything Transformers to the point of distraction and with such great intensity to the point of fetishism. This obsession is often to the exclusion of all else.
SPARKERS: Typically adult TF fans who are not afraid of the more "sexual" aspects of the fandom, generally to PG13 rating, including TF romances and relationships. "Well, at least you acknowledge the fact that TF's, though fictional, have emotions and relationships."
These can include fans who fall in love with certain characters beyond simply being a favourite.
HIGH VOLTAGE SPARKERS: Typically adult TF fans who take TF to the level of XXX rating. This can also include fans who want to/like to have sex with their TF's.</blockquote>

Are there others I was not aware of that I have not yet found? Incidentally, I chose to use the term SLAGGING instead of the F-Word to keep it less offensive to others, especially since I've never seen contemporary swearing on the wiki (outside of the S-Word reference from the 1986 movie). [[User:Leathurkatt|Lifetime Transfan since 1984.]] 17:14, 18 May 2013 (EDT)

Talk:True fan

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Leathurkatt: