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Megastar

2023-11-17T01:53:08Z

Leo1452: Wrong Scourge. See what confusion happens when an entire wiki insists on using dub names?

:''The ''Megastar'' is a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] starship from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'']] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Megastar01.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Oddly enough, not the only spaceship that can do punchbuggies.]]
The '''''Megastar''''' is the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] starship and mobile command center. It is equipped with [[transwarp cell]]s and also capable of moving underwater and underground; the versatile craft is constantly on the move to avoid detection by [[Autobot]]s. The ship has a throne room for [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]], living quarters for the crew, [[energon]] smelters, and special vats for converting other energy sources into energon. The ship's arsenal includes missiles and beam weapons, and it also has a shield that can reflect incoming beam weapons back at attackers. With this technology, the huge vessel is able to defeat even the hitherto-undefeated [[Omega Prime]]. The ''Megastar''{{'}}s most obvious physical characteristics are its two huge, humanoid arms, one of which ends in a five-fingered fist, the other in a two-pronged claw.

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon====
[[File:SecretWeaponD5 Megastar bridge.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]
The ''Megastar'' burned up most of its energy reaching [[Earth]]. Consequently, the Predacons were forced to try to raid [[human]] energy sources while keeping the base on the move to avoid detection. While it was parked on the sea floor, the Predacons gathered up a large amount of torch-sized batteries which Megatron announced were useless. {{storylink|An Explosive Situation}} They stole the [[Plutonium Energy Generator]] and brought it back to the ''Megastar'', only to find they'd been duped by the Autobots. {{storylink|Spychangers to the Rescue}} They parked the ''Megastar'' on the undersea [[Black Pyramid]], which they hoped to tap for energy, but had to abandon the site when the Autobots found them. {{Storylink|The Hunt for Black Pyramid}}

[[Kenneth Onishi|Doctor Onishi]] was held prisoner aboard the ship while the Predacons tried to extract information from him. {{storylink|The Secret of the Ruins}} The ship's computers decoded one of the doctor's [[floppy disk]]s, sending the Predacons on another wild goose chase. {{Storylink|Secret Weapon: D-5}} Megatron could control his [[Mega-Laser Cannon]] from the ship, but was forced to steer away from the area when the [[Spychanger]]s destroyed the cannon, for fear the power they wielded could cause the ship to crash. {{Storylink|Mirage's Betrayal}}

[[File:TheDecepticons Megastar lurking.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
The ''Megastar''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> instruments picked up [[Dorie Dutton]]'s news story about the [[Cave of the Dragon]], inadvertently leading the Predacons to another dead end. {{storylink|The Ultimate Robot Warrior}} They used the ''Megastar'' for transport around the [[United States of America]] after stealing some [[protoform]]s which they [[Reformatting|reformatted]] into [[Decepticon]]s. {{storylink|The Decepticons}} Megatron subsequently monitored the Decepticons' work from the ''Megastar'' bridge as they tried unsuccessfully to destroy [[Sherman Dam]]. {{Storylink|Commandos}} Having shot [[Movor]] into space, the Decepticons communicated with him using the ship's computer. {{storylink|Attack from Outer Space}}

The ''Megastar'' computers were evidently also hooked in to the [[Internet]], as [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] used them to discover he was a jellyfish via an online fish test. {{storylink|The Fish Test}} They parked the ship on [[Easter Island]] once {{storylink|Ultra Magnus: Forced Fusion!}} and also in the [[Arctic]]. {{storylink|Power to Burn!}} Their interrogation of Doctor Onishi finally saw paydirt in the form of the location of [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Fortress Maximus]], {{storylink|Fortress Maximus (episode)|Fortress Maximus}} but soon after, while the ship was parked near the pyramids, Sky-Byte removed Onishi from the ship as part of a plan and accidentally handed him back to the Autobots. {{Storylink|Koji Gets His Wish}}

[[File:Surprise Attack Megastar hand.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]
The ship was parked near some old ruins when Megatron decided to lead his forces in trying to obtain the [[Orb of Sigma]]. {{storylink|Peril from the Past}} Megatron's disappearance resulted in [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]] taking command of the ''Megastar'', briefly. {{Storylink|Maximus Emerges}} After Megatron returned as Galvatron, he hid the ship in a deep sea trench while they tried to take control of Fortress Maximus. {{Storylink|The Human Element}} They used the ship's computer to review their past defeats in the hopes of learning something. {{storylink|Mystery of the Ultra Magnus}} An attempt to kidnap [[Koji Onishi]] instead resulted in Koji's friend [[Carl (RID)|Carl]] being taken aboard the ''Megastar''. {{storylink|Mistaken Identity}}

During a heated battle, [[Megatron (RID)|Galvatron]] expanded until he was able to graft his hand mode onto one of the ''Megastar''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s arms. Thus augmented, the ship was able to brawl [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Fortress Maximus]] into an apparent stalemate. However, Maximus's tremendous firepower was apparently enough to destroy the ''Megastar'', and it was last seen bursting into flames and crashing and sinking beneath a lake. {{storylink|Surprise Attack!}}

====Dreamwave ''Robots in Disguise'' comic====
Megatron, Scourge, and Sky-Byte were in the nondescript "Decepticon base" when Megatron ordered his two subordinates to go steal a nuclear generator. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus...to the Rescue?}}
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===Toy bio continuity===
Megatron developed a new "emissary mode" body to combine with his space cruiser and even the Autobots' [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|secret defense fortress]] {{storylink|Megatron (RID)#Megabolt|Megatron Megabolt toy bio}} courtesy of help from the time-traveling criminal [[Cryotek (RID)|Cryotek]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 30 September 2015}}

==Notes==
*Whenever it appears in an episode, the ''Megastar'' is always in a completely different location than its last appearance. The second episode of ''Robots in Disguise'' establishes that the ship requires stolen/converted energy in order to move. This implies that (despite all appearances to the contrary) the Predacons actually manage to steal a considerable amount of energy during their stint on Earth, albeit while off-screen.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Destronger Idōkichi''' (デストロンガー移動基地, "Destronger Mobile Base")

[[Category:Decepticon bases]]
[[Category:Predacon starships]]
[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) locations]]

Alpha Trion/Generation 1

2022-03-19T16:18:23Z

Leo1452: typo

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:''Alpha Trion is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:AlphaTrionG1-Legendsartclean.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|I'm sure I'm just a wise old sage and nothing any more complicated or cosmic than that!]]
'''Alpha Trion''' is one of the oldest living Transformers, and with that age comes a nuanced understanding of his race and their place within the universe. In his youth, he went by the name '''A-3''', and in this time, he helped lead the enslaved Cybertronians in their rebellion against their cruel masters, the [[Quintesson]]s. As a result, he was instrumental in first establishing [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] as an independent planet.

In his older years, he has found a comfortable role in serving as advisor to other Transformers. Though not taking part in the battles of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]], he is firmly on the side of the Autobots, serving as a mentor and guide, especially to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]]. He is an enigmatic old robot, though he is known to be the guardian of [[Vector Sigma]] and the custodian of its [[Key to Vector Sigma|circuit key]]. His sage-like manner paints him in almost a mystic tone, and possible connections between Alpha Trion, [[Primus]], and the history of Cybertron itself have boosted him into legendary status.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[John Stephenson]] (English), [[Corey Burton]] (English, "War Dawn"), [[Tony Pope]] (English, "Forever Is a Long Time Coming"), [[Osamu Saka]] (Japanese), [[Toshio Ishii]] (Japanese, "War Dawn"), [[Hiroshi Naka]] (Japanese, "The Rebirth")|[[Chen Chun]] (Chinese), [[Wolfgang Mascher]] (German, "The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2" and "The Rebirth, Part 2"), [[Ramón Rocabayera]] (Spain-Spanish), [[Alejandro Abdalah]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Serge Bourrier]] (European French), [[François Leccia]] (European French, "The Search for Alpha Trion"), [[Albert Augier]] (European French, "The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2"), [[Georges Atlas]] (European French, "The Rebirth, Parts 2 & 3"), [[Magalhães Graça]] (Portuguese), [[Jomeri Pozzoli]] (Portuguese, "The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2")}}

[[File:YoungA3.jpg|left|thumb|Silverbolt never misses a chance to check out A-3's rugged mustache.]]
11 million years ago, a mechanoid named A-3 was part of the [[Autobot Rebellion|rebellion]] against the [[Quintesson]]s on a [[Cybertron (planet)|factory world]], creating a device called the [[Coder Remote]] that would stop their [[Dark Guardian]]s. Due to a timerift created by Quintessons from the future, he was briefly pulled from his position in the [[Empty Lands]] into the year 2006. Fortunately, his partner [[Beta (G1)|Beta]] managed to start the rebellion as scheduled, and A-3 was soon returned by future [[Autobot]]s to fulfill his role in Cybertronian history. {{storylink|Forever Is a Long Time Coming (episode)|Forever Is a Long Time Coming}}

[[File:Alphatrionagesbackwards.jpg|thumb|He grew a beard, picked up the Matrix, shaved his beard, and then built Optimus, apparently.]]
Years later, he would be given the [[Matrix of Leadership]] by the dying [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], but Alpha Trion himself did not become Autobot leader. It would sit in his possession, unused, until the coming of the next Autobot leader. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4}} In the meantime, Alpha Trion developed plans to rebuild Autobots to better combat the escalating [[Decepticon]] menace.

The next Autobot leader would actually come to ''him'' when a [[Aerialbot (G1)|group of time-travelers]] lugged a dying youth named Orion Pax to his repair center. Reluctant at first, Alpha Trion sensed a strong spirit in Orion Pax, and decided to rebuild him entirely... into [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]. When Prime asked if Alpha Trion could rebuild his fallen girlfriend Ariel as well, Alpha Trion agreed, and mused that [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]] would be a good name for a female warrior. {{storylink|War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn}}

[[File:AlphaTrion.jpg|left|thumb|Alpha Trion has secret liquor stashes in the strangest of places.]]

Over the intervening millennia, Alpha Trion's two greatest creations, whether by design or coincidence, forgot their relationship to the ancient Autobot. Five million years after his creation, Optimus Prime was lost when his spacecraft crash-landed on prehistoric Earth, but Alpha Trion kept in contact with Elita One, acting as a sagely advisor to her team of [[Female Autobots]] as they spent the following four million years stealing [[energon]] from [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. Eventually, in the Earth year 1985, Shockwave caught the Female Autobots in the act and tracked them back to their headquarters, prompting Elita One to consult with Alpha Trion on a course of action. Trion suggested they move their headquarters, telling Elita to scout for a new location alone, but in the event that she encountered the Decepticons, warned her not to use her life-draining time-freezing power. Alas, Elita was captured, and used by the Decepticons to lure Optimus Prime into a trap. To save her beloved's life, Elita used her fatal power, and the Autobot leader was forced to track Alpha Trion to [[Alpha Trion's base‎|his secret base]] in hopes that he could save her. Alpha Trion repaired her to the best of his ability, but revealed to Optimus Prime that only Prime could save Elita by interfacing to her with his power filter. An astonished Optimus Prime stated that only his creator could know that! {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}}

[[File:Ktvs prime and trion.jpg|thumb|"Hey"]]

A short time later, while he was looking for a [[10.2 ultra-drill|misplaced tool]], Alpha Trion was attacked in his workshop by [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and his Decepticons, who demanded that he hand over the [[Key to Vector Sigma]]. Trion pled ignorance, but Megatron knew better, and the elderly Autobot was soon overpowered while the Decepticons made off with the key. Alpha Trion was rescued from the chunk of metal the Decepticons left him stuck in by Optimus Prime and the Autobots, and after his injuries were repaired by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], he journeyed with them into Cybertron's depths, leading the way to Vector Sigma's chamber. Their way, however, was barred by [[Centurion droid]]s that Megatron used the Key to command, and Alpha Trion helped reactivate some discarded worker robots to fight the droids off. The droids had done their job, however, and prevented the Autobots from reaching Megatron before he used Vector Sigma to bring his newest Decepticons, the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] to life. To combat these new land-based Decepticons, Optimus Prime hit on the idea of creating some new aerial Autobots, and Alpha Trion set to work reconstructing some Cybertronian aircraft. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1}} When the work was done, Alpha Trion professed that he had another key to Vector Sigma "on him," and he would use it to reactivate the computer so that it could bring the jets to life. His "key," however, was his own life force: as a first generation product of Vector Sigma, his computation matrix could interface with the computer and bring it back online, at the cost of his own continued existence. Optimus Prime tried to stop him, but Alpha Trion refused to listen, reminding Prime that he was his creator and insisting that the jets were more important than he was. Prime relented, and Alpha Trion merged with Vector Sigma, which activated and brought the new [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] to life. Before Prime and the Autobots departed for Earth, Alpha Trion spoke to them through Vector Sigma, warning them of a fact merging with the computer had revealed to him: on Earth, the Key to Vector Sigma had even greater power. {{storylink|The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2}}

Many years later, when the [[Hate Plague]] was raging throughout the universe in the year 2006, Optimus Prime entered the Matrix to consult the ancient Autobots within on a possible cure. Alpha Trion was the first Prime spoke to, but he had no information to give, save a warning that Prime should take care on his journey into the Matrix, lest he be unable to return. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2}}

The following year, after the Decepticons stole the [[Key to the Plasma Energy Chamber]], Optimus Prime used the Matrix to reactivate Vector Sigma so that he could converse with Alpha Trion, hoping that the old sage knew something more about what was going on. Alpha Trion revealed to Prime that Vector Sigma had ''allowed'' [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] to become aware of the key's existence, as the chamber was key to the dawning of a new [[Golden Age]] for Cybertron... as was the merging of an [[Cerebros (G1)|Autobot]]'s life with that of a [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|human]]'s. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 2}} Alpha Trion appeared to Optimus one final time, urging him to preserve the key at all costs, as it would be vital in fulfilling Vector Sigma's prophecy. {{storylink|The Rebirth, Part 3}}

====Japanese cartoon continuity====
{{note|The events of the Generation 1 cartoon occur in the Japanese timeline as described above, except that the events of 2006 take place instead in 2010, and "The Rebirth" does not occur. Japanese continuity inserts many additional stories into the timeline.}}

=====''Generations Selects Special Comic''=====
The consciousness of [[Primus]] observed Beta and A3 drive the Quintessons off of their planet. {{storylink|Generations Selects Special Comic Finale Part 2|Finale 2}}

=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
{{voiceactor|[[Masaharu Satō]] (Japanese)}}

[[File:AlphaTrionGhost.jpg|thumb|Alpha Trion's Spooooooky Ghost]]
In the year 2011, one year after Optimus Prime released the energy of the Matrix to cure the Hate Plague, Vector Sigma began to destabilize as a result. Optimus Prime voyaged into the planet's depths to try and bring the computer back under control, but the mission seemed doomed to failure, as he did not have the Matrix to help him. While the other Autobots searched Earth for the Matrix, which had been hidden away to recharge, the spectral form of Alpha Trion appeared to Optimus Prime to help lead him through the many dangers blocking the path to Vector Sigma's chamber. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} When they finally reached their goal, however, it turned out the Decepticons had beaten them there. [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] was not far behind, with the recovered Matrix in his grasp, and when the young Autobot arrived, Alpha Trion instructed him to hold the talisman aloft. Trion's ethereal form flowed into the Matrix, completing its recharging process and transforming [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] back into Rodimus Prime, who joined Optimus in thrashing the Decepticons. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}
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=====Wars manga=====
The incorporeal Alpha Trion sensed a threat to [[Vector Sigma]] from inside the Matrix, and rematerialized on the physical plane to address the problem. He discovered [[The Fallen]] attempting to steal and assume the power of Vector Sigma for himself. Downplaying his own importance, Alpha Trion attempted to advise [[Shouki]] and the other Autobot defenders present. {{storylink|Train Wars}}

Upon recovering Vector Sigma from the Fallen, Alpha Trion once again sacrificed his physical form to merge with Vector Sigma, giving it the drive necessary to reformat Shouki into a "train bazooka" mode, powerful enough to defeat the Fallen. {{storylink|Train Wars 2}}

=====''G-2'' story pages=====
[[File:G2StoryPageReconfigurationMatrix1.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left]]
When Optimus Prime was fatally injured in battle with Megatron, the spirits of Alpha Trion and former leaders residing within the Matrix activated its [[Reconfiguration Matrix]] mechanism, reviving Prime as Battle Convoy. {{storylink|Transformers: G-2 (story page)|G-2 Part 5}}
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=====''Legends'' comic=====
Alpha Trion and the Matrix—possibly the Reconfiguration Matrix again—had a hand in Rodimus Prime's transformation into a [[Micromaster]]. {{storylink|Transformers 2015 Tailgate/G1 Mini-Con Chapter|Tailgate/G1 Mini-Con Chapter}}

To counter the rise of [[Galvatron II]], Battle Convoy contacted the spirit of Alpha Trion within the Matrix and requested his help in reviving [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]. Locating Magnus among the spirits of former leaders residing in the Matrix, Trion convinced him he was needed in the world of the living and entered his chest, using his unique connection with the Matrix to act as a substitute Matrix and bring both himself and Magnus back to life. Trion was restored in a tiny body that popped out of Magnus's chest. {{storylink|LG14 Ultra Magnus Prologue#Resurrection Chapter|Resurrection Chapter}} Granted the ability to predict the future by his merging with Vector Sigma, Alpha Trion then foresaw that Megatron would return to his evil ways in the [[Legends World]] he had settled in. Seeking to stop this, the sage himself traveled to this other universe, using his diminutive body to disguise himself as a janitor at the [[Axalon Trading Company]] while waiting for Megatron to make his move. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 14|Bonus Edition Vol. 14}}

When the employees of Axalon Co. got curious about Metroplex—who'd ended up as their new office building after getting summoned into the Legends Universe—Alpha Trion taught them about the city-bot's past. He accidentally blew his cover by explaining he knew this much because he was from "the other world", though fortunately(?) the employees wrongly assumed he meant the world of the dead. {{storylink|LG14 Ultra Magnus Prologue#The Mysterious Knowledgeable Grandpa Chapter|The Mysterious Knowledgeable Grandpa Chapter}} Alpha Trion was present when Megatron made his move, teaming up with [[Megatron (Armada)|Armada Megatron]] to conquer the Legends World. {{storylink|LG14 Ultra Magnus Prologue#The Autumn Megatron Festival Chapter|The Autumn Megatron Festival Chapter}} In response, he cast his disguise aside and used an [[10.2 ultra-drill|ultra-drill]] to summon Ultra Magnus from their home universe. At first Magnus told Trion to get back in his chest, but the sage assured him he no longer needed Trion's Matrix power but had to rely on his own strength. After the Megatrons were defeated by Magnus, Alpha Trion confirmed to a curious [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] that he could indeed predict the future, and had had a vision of the imminent arrival of [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird Shadow]], [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], and [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]] as well. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 14|Bonus Edition Vol. 14}}

Alpha Trion later confirmed to a curious Rattrap that his new body was a [[Mini-Con]]-type one, though he got defensive when asked to display the third weapon mode Mini-Cons are supposed to have. Transforming into his hovercar mode, he claimed it was ''clearly'' a shield and displayed its usefulness by shielding Ultra Magnus from a barrage of lasers. Unfortunately his size meant he only took a fraction of the blasts, and Magnus was gunned down. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus Sequel#Alpha Trion Chapter|Alpha Trion Chapter}} Armada Megatron later bought an Ultra Magnus toy in order to examine it for the Autobot's weaknesses, defending his purchase of a non-Mini-Con toy to [[Starscream (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Armada Starscream]] by pointing out the Alpha Trion accessory. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus Sequel#Armada Megatron Chapter|Armada Megatron Chapter}}

Thanks to Alpha Trion's premonitions, the Autobots were prepared for Slipstream's arrival in the Legends World and easily defeated her. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 16|Bonus Edition Vol. 16}} While doing janitor work at [[Tera-Kura Co.]], he overheard Megatron talk about his plan to steal energy from people, and summoned [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] into the Legends World as reinforcement. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 17|Bonus Edition Vol. 17}} When [[Starscream (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Armada Starscream]] attempted to sacrifice himself to prevent [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] from destroying the Legends World, Alpha Trion opened a portal to Starscream's home universe and brought forth [[Alexis Thi Dang|Alexis]] to stop him. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 18|Bonus Edition Vol. 18}}

Alpha Trion was later contacted by the [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] of his home universe, who requested to be brought to the Legends World. {{storylink|LG19 Sprung Prologue}} Following Springer's arrival, Trion had his ultra-drill stolen by a jealous [[Tigatron]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 19|Bonus Edition Vol. 19}} He was later caught up in Megatron's attack on the city when the Decepticon briefly returned to being Galvatron. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 23|Bonus Edition Vol. 23}} Aware that Alpha Trion contained the power of the Matrix, [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] had [[Scourge (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Scourge]] capture the sage as part of a bid to take over Tera-Kura, but he was freed when the Matrix energies overloaded and exploded Scourge's [[transtector]]. He went on to teach Scourge and his [[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]] how to be proper janitors. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 26|Bonus Edition Vol. 26}} When Tera-Kura purchased Metroplex from Axalon, Alpha Trion joined the Decepticon company so that he could stay with Metroplex. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 31|Bonus Edition Vol. 31}}

Alpha Trion was pretty careless with his ultra-drill; after Tigatron, it was also stolen by [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 33|Bonus Edition Vol. 33}} and [[Weirdwolf (G1)|Weirdwolf]] to serve their own needs. {{storylink|LG-43 Trypticon Project Chapter}} He was present when [[Ginrai (human)|God Ginrai]] tried to force his way into Tera-Kura Co., {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 42|Bonus Edition Vol. 42}} and later had his drill nabbed again by [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Magna Convoy)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}} When Weirdwolf's Decepticon faction attacked Tera-Kura to nab Metroplex's [[transformation cog]], Alpha Trion did his best to fight off [[Apeface]]. {{storylink|LG43 Trypticon Mobilization Chapter: Decepticon Civil War|Decepticon Civil War}} Weirdwolf used the cog to rebuild [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], so Trion responded by summoning [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]], who had previously bested the monster. Following Trypticon's defeat, he also called for the [[Disaster Relief Team]] to rebuild [[Akihabara]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 43|Bonus Edition Vol. 43}} Alpha Trion was later kidnapped by [[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]], [[Triggerhappy (G1)|Triggerhappy]] and [[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]], who forced him to summon the six [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmaster]] partners lost in the G1 World. He did as instructed only to find that the Targetmasters were emitting lethal amounts of [[plasma energy]], so he instead put the drill in reverse and scattered the six across the Legends World for everyone's safety. {{storylink|Mutant Targetmaster Birth Chapter}}

During a battle between Ultra Magnus and [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]], Alpha Trion entered Magnus's chest to lend him his power. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 50|Bonus Edition Vol. 50}} He contacted the [[Wrecker]]s for help when the city came under attack from a [[Zamojin (species)|Zamojin]]-controlled Windblade. {{storylink|Jumpstarter Chapter|LG65 Twin Twist Prologue}} During the battle with [[Majin Zarak]], whom fate decreed could not be destroyed, Alpha Trion hooked his ultra-drill up to [[Twin Twist]]'s Drill Base in order to generate a giant portal that Zarak could be pushed through. Megatron then had him open portals all over the Legends World so the doomed world's citizens could be evacuated to the G1 World. {{storylink|Targetmaster Chapter Finale: Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part Two|Legends World in Imminent Danger! Part Two}}

====''Wings Universe''====
{{Wingsnote}}

[[File:BattleLines6-stasishibernationpods.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.67]]

After the ''[[Van De Graaff]]'' was shot down on [[Beta-Nine]], the proemial Alpha Unit of the [[Elite Guard]] managed to retrieve its cargo. The [[Matrix of Leadership|mysterious item]] was then delivered by [[Magnum]] to its custodian, Alpha Trion. {{storylink|Wings of Honor}}

Over the next ten years, the Decepticon insurrection became more fierce. Councilor Magnum continued to champion his Elite Guard, a series of strike teams dedicated to hunting down the [[Decepticon Warlord]]s to cut the many heads off the serpent. Councilor Alpha Trion, however, favored his own Prime Initiative, a general of sorts who would oversee the entire Autobot army as a unified force against the Decepticons. {{Storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 2}}

Despite their political differences, Alpha Trion and Magnum worked together as the situation called for it. When a group of civilian scientists and historians needed demolitions assistance at a dig site in [[Median]], Alpha Trion requested the help of Magnum's Elite Guard for the job. Of course, he neglected to mention some of the finer points of the mission, but such is politics. {{storylink|Flames of Yesterday}}

After [[Dion (G1)|Dion]] and [[Magnum]] were injured in a Decepticon attack, they were taken to Alpha Trion. He was only able to save one of them, rebuilding the survivor into [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]. As the war drained Cybertron's energy to dangerously low levels, Optimus left the planet on a mission to find more energy. Alpha Trion prepared stasis pods within which most of the remaining Autobot population would hibernate. As they placed the other Autobots in the pods, he warned [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] that remaining online during periods of low energy as he intended to do would greatly accelerate the aging process. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 6}}

When Optimus Prime and the other Autobots aboard the Ark were considered lost, Alpha Trion set about uniting the divided Cybertronian through other means. Using the remains of a Decepticon deep-space shuttle, he built [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] and brought him to life with the power of Vector Sigma, instructing the super-computer to imbue him with a need to unite Cybertron under one banner. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 44|''Wings Universe'' Jhiaxus profile}}

Centuries later, after the [[Great Transformation]], [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] dedicated himself to interfacing with the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]] in search of guidance from [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]]. After many failed attempts, Cheetor finally succeeded, instead meeting with Alpha Trion. Trion told Cheetor of his true destiny: to lead Cybertron into a new age of peace. Cheetor accepted his destiny and thus merged with Alpha Trion, becoming Alpha Trizer. {{storylink|Hoist the Flag|Alpha Trizer's profile}} In [[2984]] C.E. as Alpha Trizer engaged in combat against the [[Star Seeker]]s, the faces of Optimus Primal and Alpha Trion flashed through his mind. {{storylink|Hoist the Flag}}

====''Deviations''====
In an alternate timeline where [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] killed [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] in the [[Battle of Autobot City]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] ended up sacrificing himself to defeat [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megascream]] and [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]. In the following [[Autobot]] celebration, Optimus Prime saw a vision of Alpha Trion and Rodimus Prime as equals within the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] and swore to never question its ways. {{Storylink|Transformers: Deviations|Deviations}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Letters page continuity====
[[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] said that the events of "War Dawn" sounded like it happened, though he'd "never heard of this Alpha Trion character but then who am I?" {{storylink|Flashback!|268's Dread Tidings}}

===3H comics===
[[File:DepartureBetrayal-AlphaTrion.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|Alpha Trion was various lions for all of two seconds, in one person's mind.]]
In the distant past, during the Cybertronians' rebellion against their Quintesson oppressors, A-3's mettle was tested in an encounter with a [[Dark Guardian]]. {{storylink|Disclosure}}

During [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s rule of Cybertron, Alpha Trion was seemingly resurrected and/or reformatted as a lion by the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]] to guide [[Primal Prime]] and his [[Wrecker]] in much the same way as he aided many previous Autobot leaders. {{storylink|Departure}} It is unclear whether this new form ever existed physically; its only appearance was as a vision in Primal Prime's head. {{storylink|Betrayal}} The ancient Autobot reached out and made contact with Primal Prime's spark, but his messages came through garbled and incomplete. Of the small amount of information he was able to transmit to Primal Prime was the fact that the Wreckers should believe in Primus's vision, and that their creator sometimes worked in mysterious ways... {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

[[File:Alphatrionuniverse.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|He said he was reformatted into a [[beast mode]], but he was lyin'.]]
Alpha Trion did not make a physical appearance after this enigmatic reintroduction until [[Unicron]] posed a new threat to the balance of the multiverse. Alpha Trion, though technically still merged with [[Primus]]/[[Vector Sigma]]/Whatever, was again in his original body (but now with a cape!). He/they pulled Cybertron's greatest hero, [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]], back from the dead in order to rescue recently abducted Cybertronians from the center of the Chaos Bringer. {{storylink|Abduction}}

Thoug Primal was at first taken aback by the enormity of the task he had been assigned, Alpha Trion's pontification goaded him on in accepting the mission. When Primal succeeded at this monumental task, {{storylink|Escape (Universe)|Escape}} he confronted the [[Maximal Elder]]s with one of his overblown speeches and was thrown in jail. Alpha Trion sent [[Snarl (BM)|Snarl]] to stage a small rescue of his own, and Primal was returned to the center of Cybertron. Here, Alpha Trion presented Primal with a window into the past, present, and future of the [[Transformer afterlife|Allspark]], from which he could pluck any warrior, whether they be living or dead. Primal chose [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depthcharge]] and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], the former of whom rejected Primal's calling. Alpha Trion quieted Primal's disappointment, letting Depthcharge go, expecting him to return of his own accord. To take his place, Alpha Trion pulled [[Omega Prime]] from [[Viron 903.0 Beta|a Viron universe]]. {{storylink|Homecoming (Universe)|Homecoming}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[File:Alphatriondw.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Most people kill their prizes before hanging them on their wall. Shockwave is not most people.]]
Eons ago, Alpha Trion kept watch over the Transformers when Primus entered his eternal sleep to hide Cybertron from Unicron. However, a nomadic alien race eventually conquered Cybertron, and Alpha Trion was forced into hiding. Thousands of Transformers were slaughtered, and Alpha Trion was unable to act. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ultimate Guide}} Alpha Trion performed actions that would make him known as the savior of his race. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}}

Alpha Trion was attached to the supercomputer Vector Sigma, and was its caretaker from the [[Golden Age]] to the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. He was considered the only Transformer capable of accessing all of the computer's functions. In his position, he disagreed with the [[Council of Ancients]]' esoteric mysticism, wishing to make the Transformers' place in the cosmos more known. {{Storylink|Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye #8}} Despite this, he was a secret guiding force behind the Council and its selection of Primes. He was fond of [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], both with whom he had a special bond. {{Storylink|Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye #1}}

After the [[Great Shutdown]], [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] was awakened. Soon after, he met [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]], who somehow led the [[Decepticon]] to Alpha Trion. Alpha Trion was incapacitated and hung on a wall in Shockwave's laboratory for analysis, to assist Shockwave in his attempt to control Vector Sigma. The ancient Cybertronian constantly foiled his attempts to analyze him; nevertheless, Shockwave swore that the savior of their race would become its "greatest destroyer". {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} As Shockwave's plans reached fruition, the last remaining "ancient program" for him to decode was Alpha Trion. However, Shockwave's machinations were foiled by his apparent and untimely demise. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}

Alpha Trion's last days were recorded to be deep within Cybertron, preparing the Transformers and Cybertron for their darkest hour. {{Storylink|Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye #1}}

===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
[[File:Historyofcybertron.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Trukk... and munky?]]
When [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] downloaded some of [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s memories, he saw Alpha Trion and his role in the [[Cybertronian Civil Wars|rebellion]] against the [[Quintesson]]s. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 1|The Art of War #1}}
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===2005 IDW continuity===
:*''First Appearance:'' [[Megatron Origin issue 3|''Megatron Origin'' #3]] (cameo); [[Any Old Iron|''Transformers: Ironhide'' #3]] (full appearance)

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In the years that followed the departure of the [[Knights of Cybertron]], Alpha Trion emerged as one of the [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]s, leading one of the [[Thirteen Tribes]] some twelve million years ago. He was well known as a chronicler and record-keeper of Cybertronian history; {{storylink|The Crucible}} though he did not have the same heroic reputation as the other Primes, he was a well-versed historian, librarian, and orator. {{storylink|White Light}} In his youth, he studied some of the mythical [[Artifacts of the Primes|artifacts]] that would come to be wielded by the Primes, such as the ancient [[Enigma of Combination]], {{storylink|The Nothing Man}} and learned as much as he could about the primitive tribes that inhabited prehistoric Cybertron. {{storylink|Omega's Conundrum}}

Alpha Trion would join forces with four other Primes: [[Alchemist Prime|Alchemist]], [[Vector Prime|Vector]], [[Solus Prime|Solus]], and [[Nexus Prime]], and together they established a village they called the [[Crystal City]]. As a storyteller and keeper of legends, Trion encouraged the tribes to work together by regaling them with tales of [[Primus]] and the [[Guiding Hand]], believing that the kernels of truth passed down through his tales could inspire others to perform great deeds.

[[File:OriginMyths-AlchemistPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|"Go home Alchemist, you're drunk."]]

Their early efforts were threatened by the advancing armies of the [[Darklands]]; shortly after the Darklanders slaughtered [[Septimus Prime]] and sacked [[Protihex|Protohex]], another Prime, going by the name of "[[Onyx Prime|Onyx]]", arrived to propose an alliance, bringing with him his comrade [[Liege Maximo]] and an army of [[Beast mode|bestial]] warriors. "Onyx" professed scorn for Trion's belief in the Guiding Hand, but Trion spoke to him privately and made him see the inspirational power that his stories possessed. Onyx pressed him to convince the other Primes into allying with him; once united, their forces took to the field against the Darklanders. As the battle raged, events took an unexpected turn when three [[Titan (group)|Titans]] emerged from the depths of the planet. In the impromptu ceasefire, Onyx was able to reach the enemy leader [[The Fallen|Megatronus]] and convince him to lay down arms and agree to a proper truce. {{storylink|Origin Myths}}

The other Primes never learned the truth about Onyx Prime: the bestial Prime was an identity of convenience assumed by a time-travelling [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]]; using Megatronus as a catspaw, he had deliberately engineered the war between the Darklanders and the Crystal City in order to bring the Primes together under a single banner, one of many historical paradoxes he would engineer using his foreknowledge of Cybertron's long history. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

In the ensuing celebration, Trion soon became wary of his new ally: "Onyx" had begun telling "stories" of his own, thus seeding history with more paradoxes, including the "[[Dark Cybertron (prophecy)|Dark Cybertron]]" prophecy that his younger self would one day study and attempt to bring about. Trion's concerns were echoed by the Darklander warrior [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]], who believed that the Primes would eventually grow drunk on their own superiority and become tyrants. Trion solemnly told Arcee that it would be the job of their followers to keep the Primes in check. {{storylink|Origin Myths}}

[[File:OmegasConundrum-Metroplex.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Because he's the wise sage Cybertron deserves, but not the one it needs right now.]]

Determined to see as much of his planet as he could before it all changed, Trion befriended the Titan [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]], and the pair set off to explore and chart Cybertron. {{storylink|Omega's Conundrum}} Over the next two million years, the initial coalition of Primes were joined by five more, and thus united the Primes became the alliance known as the [[Thirteen]], led by [[Prima]]. {{storylink|Heavy}} In the ensuing era of peace, Trion became known as "The Trion" and developed his famed reputation for storytelling. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of Primes}} Other Primes had grown arrogant, however and began spreading rumors that only a Prime could kill another Prime, to ensure their reign would last forever. {{storylink|The Crucible}} None of the twelve Primes ever suspected that "Onyx Prime" had continued to manipulate them, and, as he had once brought them together, planned to tear them apart once more. Indeed, "Onyx" soon realized that he could permanently keep Trion's suspicions at bay simply by spinning one convincing story after another. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

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"Onyx" set his plans in motion by encouraging Prima to commission an interstellar mission of goodwill, designed to share the "enlightened" civilization of Cybertron with their neighbors. Alpha Trion joined the voyage as its official record-keeper, and joined by [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and his [[Guardian robot|Omega Sentinels]], the Cybertronian expedition set off for the organic world of [[Antilla]], its resources making it ripe for colonization. When the detachment arrived however, the [[Antillan]]s fought back against the invaders. Over the course of this brief war, "Onyx"—despite Trion's misgivings—announced that this world now belonged to Alpha Trion, the first of Cybertron's thirteen "colonies". When recording these events however, Trion would write that the Antillan mission had been one of peace and that the natives had been the ones who fired first. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} {{storylink|Our Finest}}

On returning to Cybertron, "Onyx" continued to secretly sow discord, and manipulated events so that a furious Megatronus would slay [[Solus Prime]] in an attempted coup against Prima. Alpha Trion agreed that Liege Maximo, who had seemingly masterminded the coup that had led to her death, had forfeited his right to live on Cybertron and watched as his fellow Primes imprisoned Liege Maximo aboard [[Vigilem]].

Determined to bring Solus Prime's killer to justice, Alpha Trion joined "Onyx" and Prima aboard Prima's Titan, [[Emissary (IDW)|Emissary]]. The three Primes tracked Megatronus to the barren world of [[Tsiehshi]], but Trion stayed behind while the other two Primes went to confront Megatronus in a final duel. Only "Onyx Prime" returned, informing the record-keeper that Prima had sacrificed himself to end Megatronus's life. The reality was more complicated, however: "Onyx" had simply let Megatronus kill Prima, then, his usefulness at an end, killed Megatronus. Trion was once more swayed by "Onyx Prime's" well-told tale, and so this account became the "official" version of events that would find its way into the chronicles of Cybertron... and thus, the inspiration for the lie that the time-traveling Shockwave used to cover up the truth. Returning to Cybertron, Trion and the five remaining Primes watched as Emissary interred Prima's remains within his body and left Cybertron, unaware that his systems had been sabotaged by "Onyx". {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

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With the Primes reduced in number and divided from within, they and their followers soon fell to war with one another in the [[First Cybertronian Civil War]], {{storylink|Heavy}} the outcome Shockwave had been aiming for all along. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}} Trion was not an active participant in the war, instead hoping to find a way to end the conflict as bloodlessly as possible. When the warrior [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] slaughtered [[Nexus Prime]] and dispelled the rumors that the Primes were immortal, fear for their own safety prompted the last of the Primes to flee Cybertron, one by one, until only Alpha Trion remained. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

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Determined to bring the war to an end, Alpha Trion approached Galvatron during the [[Battle of Aegiax]] to request his help in bringing peace to Cybertron—promising the bloodthirsty barbarian whatever he wanted in exchange. {{storylink|Earthfall Chapter 3: The Mind Bomb|The Mind Bomb}} Trion led Galvatron to the [[Citadel of Light]], former home of [[Prima]] and his tribe, and watched Galvatron and Prima's last follower [[Nova Prime|Nova Major]] defeat the remnants of Onyx Prime's forces. When the battle was won, Alpha Trion introduced himself to Nova, who was not quick to believe Trion's claim to Primehood until Trion pummeled him into submission. Together, the trio made for "Onyx Prime's" castle in [[Kalis]] to verify Trion's belief that the other Primes had disappeared. Their way into the castle was barred by the sole remaining warrior, [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox of the Mournsong]], but he was quickly intimidated into letting them pass. Discovering that "Onyx" had indeed vanished, Nova announced his plan to take control of Cybertron and unify its tribes, and Alpha Trion, feeling this was the best course of action for Cybertron's people, gladly stood aside and let Nova assume the title of Prime.

After taking control of Cybertron, Nova directed his attention to decoding the secrets of the Thirteen, beginning with Nexus Prime's Enigma of Combination. Galvatron was the only one of them who ''didn't'' want to uncover the Enigma, and continually insisted that the Enigma was gone, just like its creator. Trion became curious by Galvatron's claims and pointed out that everyone ''except'' Galvatron talked of the Enigma as if it were merely a concept, but Galvatron spoke of it as a physical object. One look in Galvatron's eyes provided Alpha with all the explanation he needed to arrive at the answer. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

Over the next few million years, Alpha Trion was content to let himself fade into the background of Cybertronian life, allowing himself to be "forgotten" after the disastrous fall of the Primes. {{storylink|The Crucible}} When Nova Prime and his crew—which included Galvatron—departed Cybertron six million years ago, Alpha Trion blessed their starship, the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]''. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} Following the disappearance of the ''Ark'', memorial lectures were held in honor of Nova, during which Alpha Trion gave a speech about [[Primus]]. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations}} Alpha Trion's various compendiums regarding the early histories of Cybertron were of interest to the younger Senator [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]], and thus would go on to form the basis for many of "Onyx Prime's" manipulations to the timeline. {{storylink|The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|The First Who Was Named}}

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Nova Prime, thought dead, would eventually be supplanted by [[Nominus Prime]], and, later, [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]. Unaware that Sentinel Prime was a false identity constructed by the ancient [[Titan Master]] [[Infinitus]], Alpha Trion was known to have stood up against "Sentinel Prime's" increasingly fascistic ideals. {{storylink|White Light}} At the request of a [[blacksmith]], Trion bore witness to the birth of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Orion Pax]], agreeing that there was something special about the newborn. {{storylink|Post}} Four million years ago, as [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]'s [[Decepticon]] uprising took shape, Alpha Trion attended the funerals of [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] and [[Fastback (G1)|Fastback]]. {{storylink|Megatron Origin issue 3|Megatron Origin #3}}

Because of Alpha Trion's intimate knowledge of Cybertron's surface, he accompanied Orion Pax and [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] on a mission into the treacherous [[Rust Sea|Rust Spot]] to swap Decepticon prisoners for the captured [[Ratchet (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ratchet]]. This was merely a ruse to draw out Alpha Trion, who the Decepticons wanted in order to help locate Metroplex. Due to Orion Pax's valiant actions, Alpha Trion and the other Autobots escaped with their lives. {{storylink|Omega's Conundrum}} The Autobots did get something out of Alpha Trion though; confirmation that the Titans were indeed real. {{storylink|The Hunting Party (IDW)|The Hunting Party}}

Once Orion Pax had become Optimus Prime, he broadcast a message to all Cybertronians, asking them to join him in the fight against the Decepticons and beginning the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. Alpha Trion watched this broadcast with interest from the archives of [[Kutanzuule]]. {{storylink|Broadcast}} He soon came in contact with the young Prime to offer him advice and guidance in his early days as Autobot leader. {{storylink|Derelicts}} When Optimus blamed himself for being unable to stop the [[Exodus (event)|Exodus]], Alpha Trion assured him that sometimes a leader's role was to let their followers go and make their own decisions. {{storylink|The Illusion of Control}} Alpha Trion was surprised when Optimus rediscovered the long lost [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], and advised him to accept that the ancient guardian would not easily reintegrate into society. {{storylink|Primacy issue 2|Primacy #2}}

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500,000 years ago, Alpha Trion chose to leave Cybertron together with Metroplex, partly to keep the Titan and his technology out of Decepticon hands, but also to investigate [[Shockwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Shockwave]]'s [[Regenesis]] plan. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 1: Hello Cruel World|Hello Cruel World}} After exploring space for millennia, Alpha Trion came to realize that Shockwave had not seeded his miraculous ores randomly—each had been sent to a planet that Shockwave believed one of the Thirteen had gone after they had fled Cybertron, and the thirteenth planet was the resting place of the Enigma of Combination. {{storylink|The Crucible}}

[[File:Ironing Out the Details Alpha Trion.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.2|Metal beards are ridiculous! But ''cloth'' beards are super okay.]]
The pair briefly returned to Cybertron in [[1997]]; by this point, the planet had been rendered virtually uninhabitable by war, and so Trion began trying to restore it. Operating out of Metroplex, Trion spent the next decade processing the corrosive elements out of Cybertron's atmosphere, slowly making it habitable again. After 2008, the problem was compounded by a monstrous [[Insecticon swarm]] that had overrun the planet. Requiring the toughest of the tough to obliterate the swarm, Alpha Trion selected [[Ironhide (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Ironhide]] to do the job. That Ironhide was across the galaxy on Earth mattered little: Ironhide would eventually die some day, Trion rationalized, and so he built a duplicate body on Cybertron into which he could implant Ironhide's spark and memories once he passed on and returned to the "[[Transformer afterlife|core]]". With Vector Sigma having been essentially erased in the event that devastated Cybertron, this took Alpha Trion years and pushed his skills to their limit, but once Ironhide died on Earth in 2010, the ancient Autobot's grand work was complete, and Ironhide returned to life on Cybertron in the new body constructed for him. {{storylink|Any Old Iron}}

Ironhide awoke in confusion, his memories incomplete due to damage he had suffered millions of years beforehand that had disrupted his link to the core, and wandered Cybertron's wastes until Alpha Trion dispatched his [[Scamper|page]] to bring the befuddled warrior to Metroplex's city mode. Alpha Trion took umbrage at the fact Ironhide had never heard of his ancient greatness, and revealed his incredible powers over his own electromagnetic aura by using it to control Ironhide's actions when the ornery Autobot started to get a little rough. Ironhide further tested Trion's patience when he ignored his cautions and ventured out to track down the near-dead [[Sunstreaker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Sunstreaker]] (even if Sunstreaker ''had'' heard of him). Finally, Trion relented to Ironhide's constant questioning and explained the reason he had brought him back online: to exterminate the swarm. {{storylink|Ironing Out the Details}}

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While Ironhide took out of most of the swarm in a brutal battle, Trion busied himself repairing Sunstreaker. After Ironhide returned, Trion announced that he and Metroplex were leaving Cybertron for parts unknown while Ironhide mopped up the remaining Insecticons. Infuriated by the old 'bots condescending attitude, Ironhide slugged him one, but Alpha Trion let it slide, putting Ironhide in his place by telling him he was just a small playing piece in a very large game. Before departing, however, Alpha Trion softened, congratulating Ironhide on saving the entire planet. After all, the only other Autobot would could make that claim... was he. {{storylink|Any Old Iron}}

In 2012, Alpha Trion finally deduced that the Enigma of Combination had landed on [[Earth]]. Hoping to recover it before Shockwave could harness its power for his own ends, {{storylink|The Crucible}} Trion left Metroplex to fend off the next stage of Shockwave's ultimate plan by himself. Trion set course for Earth to retrieve what he called the "holy grail", and was thus unable to turn back and help when his Titan companion was infected with an [[alchemical virus]]. After crossing paths with the ''[[Vis Vitalis]]'', he convinced [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]]'s [[Caminus (planet)|Camien]] associates, [[Cityspeaker]] [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] and her compatriots [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] and [[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]], to use their [[Cityspeaker|cityspeaking]] skills to aid the Titan in his place. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} {{storylink|A 'Bot and Her City}} Alpha Trion also tasked the three with delivering a simple message for Optimus Prime: "Earth." {{storylink|Earthfall Part 1: Hello Cruel World|Hello Cruel World}} Shockwave saw Alpha Trion in a vision of things that would come to pass during the Dark Cybertron prophecy. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}}

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Alpha Trion made it to Earth shortly before Shockwave enacted the final stage of his plan; unfortunately for him, however, his ship was shot down by the [[Earth Defense Command]], {{storylink|The Crucible}} and both he and his vessel were interred at the EDC's primary headquarters in the [[Marshall Islands|Bikini Atoll]] for study. {{storylink|Earthfall Chapter 4: Full Fathom Five|Full Fathom Five}} After finally meeting Optimus in person, Windblade passed Trion's message along and Optimus and a group of Autobots travelled to Earth to find him. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 1: Hello Cruel World|Hello Cruel World}}

A month later, [[Jazz (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Jazz]] infiltrated the EDC base and stumbled on him while investigating the EDC's use of Cybertronian tech. {{storylink|Earthfall Chapter 4: Full Fathom Five|Full Fathom Five}} Knowing he was hooked up to an alarm and that the EDC's "[[mindbomb]]" couldn't have been created from just ''his'' brain, [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]] stopped Jazz from rescuing Alpha Trion immediately in order to investigate further. After deactivating the alarms they took Alpha Trion and fled on [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]], where a merry Trion's reunion with Optimus Prime was cut short by a coughing fit, prompting [[Jetfire (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Jetfire]] to take him away and have a look at his injuries. {{storylink|Earthfall Chapter 5: I Dream of Wires|I Dream of Wires}}

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Alpha Trion had Optimus Prime take him to the [[Moon (moon)|moon]], away from prying ears, to share with him why Earth was so important. He told the story about how he brought Galvatron and Nova Prime together, shocking and angering Optimus with the fact that he was one of the Thirteen Primes and let Nova Prime's reign happen, before revealing the presence of the Enigma of Combination on Earth. {{storylink|The Crucible}} They subsequently returned to the ''[[Ark-7]]'', where Jetfire found their trip had worsened Alpha Trion's condition and admonished Prime. When Prime then returned to Cybertron for what he claimed were political reasons, Trion poked fun at him until he admitted he also had a personal reason, namely the anniversary of him becoming Prime. {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part One: Signals, Calls, and Marches|Signals, Calls, and Marches}}

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When the ''Ark-7'' came under attack and the Autobots lost control of the ship, Alpha Trion recognized why—its computers had been infected with the source code of the Enigma of Combination. {{storylink|The Nothing Man}} Joining [[Sideswipe (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Sideswipe]] and [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] as they fought their way through the ship's defenses towards its [[Space bridge|spacebridge]], Trion described the Enigma as one of the "metaphors made real" devised by the ancient Primes and that normal Transformers couldn't fight against it. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 1: Aphelion|Aphelion}} They reached their goal only to be greeted by a group of Decepticons who'd arrived through the spacebridge to capture the ship, {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}} prompting Sideswipe to hide the still injured Alpha Trion away from harm in a storage compartment. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 4: Perihelion|Perihelion}}

After the Decepticons had crashed the ship onto Earth, Trion and the others were recovered by Optimus Prime's forces. Once they'd relocated, he was shocked to hear that Optimus had started a war with Earth in an attempt to annex it, and wondered what his plan was now. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 1: Once Upon a Time on Earth|Once Upon a Time on Earth}} He was present when Optimus returned after an ill-fated confrontation between [[Aileron]] and the [[President of the United States]]. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 2: Edge of the Earth|Edge of the Earth}} When the Autobots joined forces with [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]]'s Decepticons against Galvatron, Alpha Trion's status as another Prime distressed Soundwave. He remained at their [[Monument Valley]] base caring for [[Buster (IDW)|Buster]] during the actual attack, but an attack on ''them'' by the humans caused the dog to run off with [[D.0.C.]] {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 4: It's Beginning To And Back Again|It's Beginning To And Back Again}} As the battle raged on, Alpha Trion encouraged Optimus Prime to search within himself for the reason he had chosen this particular valley as their base, which led to Optimus realizing [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]] was hidden beneath the surface and awakening him. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 5: As Above...So Below|As Above...So Below}}

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Alpha Trion watched Metrotitan transform into [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]], the Cybertronian embassy on Earth. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights}} After this he sought another Prime-to-Prime talk with Optimus, but Optimus postponed it in favor of having him coordinate the aftermath of the battle with Galvatron's soldiers. {{storylink|The Last Autobot}}

While resting at Autobot City, Alpha Trion was confronted by a diminutive Cybertronian who introduced himself as "[[Infinitus]]", decrying Trion as the weakest of the original [[Thirteen]]. Alpha Trion was confused by Infinitus, but as the interloper pontificated about his plan to wipe Cybertron clean of "vermin" and return it to its [[Golden Age]], Alpha Trion realized that his visitor was none other than the 'bot he had once known as [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]! Sentinel Prime deployed a set of blades from his forearms and pounced on Trion, decapitating him. While Optimus and Soundwave were waylaid, Infinitus used his [[Titan Master]] powers to puppeteer Trion's body, escaping in its spaceship configuration. {{storylink|White Light}} After using it to fetch [[Sovereign]], herald of Onyx Prime and fellow Titan Master, Infinitus passed control of the body on to him. When Infinitus and Sovereign confronted Optimus Prime and Soundwave, Soundwave used Alpha Trion's sword to remove Sovereign, and Trion's head and body were recovered. They were returned to Cybertron and reunited by [[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]], who explained that the old Autobot would survive. {{storylink|White Heat}}

Alpha Trion then got an apartment and spruced it up with all manner of literary texts. Prior to Earth officially joining the Cybertronian [[Council of Worlds]], he was visited by Optimus, Pyra and Starscream and recounted the tale of the unification of the Thirteen and the "first face". Once he was finished, he defended himself to a skeptical Starscream, saying he simply told the story. {{storylink|Origin Myths}}

When [[Thundercracker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Thundercracker]] ran into story difficulties in making [[Starscream: The Movie (film)|his film about Starscream]], he sought out Alpha Trion for his views regarding Starscream being labelled as the "Chosen One". Alpha Trion felt that Metrotitan had been spouting random nonsense in his damaged state with Starscream just having been in the right place to take advantage of it. Nonetheless, he gave Thundercracker advice that instead of using his film to spread lies about Starscream, he should instead use the power of stories to present truths that would inspire his audience. {{storylink|Starscream: The Movie (comic)|Starscream: The Movie}}

[[File:AnotherMine OnyxAlphaReunited.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.3|"But enough about me, let's kill ''you!''"]]
After [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] became ruler of Cybertron, Trion met with the [[Mistress of Flame]] who recounted to him an encounter she had with Onyx Prime on Antilla. Alpha Trion had also invited [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]] to the discussion in the hopes that the highly religious Mistress and the recently atheist Constructicon could each teach the other something. Onyx Prime himself returned to Cybertron that very day with the captive Liege Maximo, much to everyone's apprehension. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of Primes}} Trion joined the subsequent meeting at the [[Spire]], but as tensions mounted between the trio of Primes, the religious colonists, and Soundwave—who refused to let the Primes reassert themselves as leaders—Trion was struck by a devastating epiphany: the 'bot he believed to be "Onyx Prime" was, in fact, Shockwave, who had manipulated him all these years. Before he could warn his allies of "Onyx Prime"'s true intentions, a powerful blast ripped through the Spire and mortally wounded him. Soundwave rushed to his side, but was unable to do anything more than pronounce him dead. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 2: Another Mine|Another Mine}}

When Soundwave sacrificed his life to help defeat [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]], he saw a vision of the many deceased- Alpha Trion included, welcoming him into the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]]. {{storylink|Ceremony}} As Optimus Prime himself died, he remembered all the major moments of his life and pondered if Trion being present at his forging was proof that he'd been [[The Arisen]]. {{storylink|Post}}
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====Vision of the future====
In a vision of the future seen by Ironhide and [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] during the reformatting of Cybertron, Alpha Trion lived on a prosperous [[Gorlam Prime]] fifteen million years from now, telling young Transformers the history of their race and their struggles. His closest friend at this time was an aged Ironhide, who Alpha frequently comforted as Ironhide struggled to find his place in the new civilization. {{storylink|Pax Cybertronia (issue)|Pax Cybertronia}}

===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
[[Preditron]] remembered Alpha Trion as an inspirational figure, one who exemplified the best qualities of the Autobots. {{storylink|The Predacon Manifesto}}

[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] knew the books of Alpha Trion to hold that countless Cybertrons existed in the multiverse. {{storylink|Alone Together: Prologue}}

While interacting with the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], [[Overshoot]] witnessed flashes of Cybertron's long history, including Alpha Trion wielding his [[Quill]]. {{storylink|Cultural Appropriation}}

===''Transformers vs. G.I. Joe''===
[[File:Everybody Hates Metroplex - Vision of Alpha Trion passing the Matrix.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4]]
As he lay dying, Alpha Trion passed the Matrix of Leadership down to Optimus Prime, an event that would later be plucked from Prime's memories and scrutinized during his [[Quintesson]] trial. {{storylink|Everybody Hates Metroplex}} His spirit passed into the Matrix, where it would later haunt [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] after he'd stolen the artifact. {{storylink|Transformers vs. G.I. Joe issue 12|Transformers vs. G.I. Joe #12}} The spirits of Alpha Trion and other past Matrix holders manifested again when Optimus Prime took back the Matrix. {{storylink|The War Never Ends}}
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===Ask Vector Prime===
When questioned if Alpha Trion was [[Solomus]], [[Vector Prime]] just said that Trion went by many names. Make of that what you will. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/01}}

===''Prime Wars Trilogy'' marketing material===
[[File:PowerOfTheTitanMasters-alphatrion.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
Alpha Trion was partnered with the [[Titan Master]] [[Sovereign]], who granted him the power of Primus himself. {{storylink|#Generations|''Titans Return'' Sovereign/Alpha Trion toy bio}} On the planet [[Jungle Planet (colony)|Eukaris]], Alpha Trion and [[Grimlock (G1)|Clobber]] discovered an ancient artifact linked to the [[Titan (group)|Titan]]s and Titan Masters. They were attacked by a contingent of Decepticons intent on ambushing the two Autobots and stealing the artifact for themselves, but [[Apeface]] managed to blow their cover and give the Autobots time to fight back. {{storylink|Titans Return: The Power of the Titan Masters}}

Alpha Trion's [[Spark]] passed into the possession of one of the twelve [[Prime Master]]s; hidden within a suit of decoy armor, they safeguarded the abilities of the Primes until the present day. By uniting with a larger Transformer, the Prime Master could channel the powers of Trion's Spark and grant them unique abilities that varied with each new partner. {{storylink|#Power of the Primes|''Power of the Primes'' Landmine / Alpha Trion online bio}}

{{note|For a list of every permutation of Alpha Trion's abilities, see [[Prime Master/Combinations|this link]].}}
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===''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor|[[Ben Jurand]] (English), [[Banjō Ginga]] (Japanese)|[[Dario de Castro]] (Portuguese), [[Mathieu Buscatto]] (French), [[Samuel Zekarias]] (German), [[Jesús Carrasco]] (Castilian Spanish), [[José Luis Orozco]] (Latin-American Spanish)}}
[[File:WFC-Earthrise-Ep5-Alpha-Trion-threatens-Sky-Lynx.jpg|thumb|300px|left]]

In Cybertron's past, Alpha Trion led the planet into a rebellion against its [[Quintesson|oppressors]], and mentored [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus]] and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] {{storylink|Siege episode 1}} as his students to bring change and good to Cybertron. Alpha Trion also protected the [[Matrix of Leadership]], waiting for one worthy enough to be chosen. The arrogant [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]] time and time again tried to claim the talisman until Alpha Trion used the [[Staff of Solus]] to banish the draconian to the [[Dead Universe]]. {{storylink|Earthrise episode 5}} At some point, Alpha Trion studied the mystical [[AllSpark]], proving its existence, {{storylink|Siege episode 2}} and knew where it was located. {{storylink|Siege episode 4}}

As the Autobots and Decepticons diverged and Megatron started his own revolution, the former student murdered Alpha Trion. {{storylink|Siege episode 6}} The Matrix of Leadership chose Optimus Prime as its next bearer and Magnus inherited the sum total of Alpha Trion's knowledge in the form of the [[Alpha Trion Protocols]]. Trion, greatly missed by many, was awarded a memorial in the mass-grave at [[Tarn-Hauser Gate]]. When Megatron murdered Ultra Magnus, the Alpha Trion Protocols chose the scavenger [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]. He spoke to a simulacrum of Alpha Trion that persisted within the Protocols, {{storylink|Siege episode 4}} but it was destroyed when [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] engineered a virus against it. {{storylink|Siege episode 6}}

While in the Dead Universe, both Optimus and Megatron looked back to when Alpha Trion had mentored them and Ultra Magnus, but the Decepticon leader only let it fuel his hatred. {{storylink|Earthrise episode 5}} When the Autobots and [[Maximal]]s searched for the AllSpark on Earth, the artifact produced an illusion of Alpha Trion to Optimus Prime, part of its defense mechanism to lead would-be threats astray. Optimus followed the projection until it led him to a mortally wounded [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] and the Matrix of Leadership. {{storylink|Kingdom episode 3}}
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===2019 IDW continuity===
Ultra Magnus' mentor, Trion was active in the days before the [[War of the Threefold Spark]] trying to teach his pupil about sympathy for the enemy. {{storylink|Storm Horizon Part 2}} Trion bore witness to the war that followed, his spark weeping for those that were extinguished.

When the [[Tether]] had fallen, Alpha Trion had left Cybertron, hunting down ancient Cybertronian artefacts across the galaxy. {{storylink|Storm Horizon Part 1}} Trion's search led him to the [[Decimus Sector]]. Knowing that [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]]'s crew had mapped the [[Black Sphere]] region, he bargained for usage of a [[Kworian]] starship, eventually finding himself in [[Soundblaster (G1)|Soundblaster]]'s company. Though Trion had left a series of signal markers, their proximity to the [[black hole]] gave an exaggerated account of how long he'd been gone, sending Ultra Magnus on a search for him. Via [[hologram]], Trion projected himself to his mentee on the planet [[Obsidar]] just as Soundblaster's vessel came under attack from a fleet of starships. {{storylink|Storm Horizon Part 2}}

Obsessed with his profits, Soundblaster refused to let Alpha Trion go free, forcing Ultra Magnus to board the ship and rescue his mentor. With Trion noting that the Kworians were unlikely to stand down, the two left the ship to be destroyed by the black hole and retreated to the ''[[Fist of Iacon]]''. Setting course for home, the crew discovered that Megatron had overthrown the [[Senate]] but Alpha Trion reassured everyone that with faith in their cause and courage, they would see through this crisis and emerge stronger. {{storylink|Storm Horizon Part 3}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
[[File:AlphaTrionG1-MegatronOriginLegends.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4]]
Alpha Trion was one of the oldest Transformers alive. {{storylink|Orion's Gambit}}

Sentinel Prime sent Alpha Trion out to investigate an uprising of working-class robots. Alpha Trion uncovered that Senator Ratbat has shut down a mine, which catapulted into motion the Decepticon movement. He reported his findings to Sentinel Prime, and Ratbat was forced to flee for his life. {{storylink|Megatron Origins}}

[[File:AlphaTrionG1-GoldenAgeLegends.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.4]]

Alpha Trion, alongside Nightbeat and Orion Pax, was to escort the Decepticons Rack'n'Ruin in a prisoner exchange with the Decepticons. Though they encountered [[Slicer (group)|Slicers]] en route, the group eventually met up with Bludgeon. But instead of the agreed upon exchange, Bludgeon and the Decepticons ambushed the Autobots, leading to Alpha Trion's capture. He was rescued and returned to Zeta Prime's protective custody thanks to Nightbeat and Orion Pax's efforts. {{storylink|Orion's Gambit}}

When Orion Pax and Ariel were seriously injured by the Decepticons, the Aerialbots took the pair to Trion, who rebuilt them into [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Elita One (G1)|Elita One]]. He also aided the Aerialbots in returning to their own time through the [[Chronogon]] portal. {{storylink|Golden Age (Legends)|Golden Age}}
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===''Angry Birds Transformers''===
{{main|Mighty Eagle#As Alpha Trion}}
Alpha Trion appears as a character unlockable in Challenge Events. He is portrayed by Mighty Eagle. {{storylink|Angry Birds Transformers (mobile game)|Angry Birds Transformers}}

==Toys==
===''Expanded Universe''===
[[File:Alphalion.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"im not ownable! im not ownable!!", i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a lion]]
:A redeco of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' Deluxe Class [[Snarl (BM)#Toys|Snarl]] was planned as Alpha Trion for the [[BotCon|OTFCC]] ''[[Transformers: The Wreckers|Wreckers]]'' storyline, but this concept never made it past the paint mock-up stage.

:A redecoed [[Lio Convoy#Beast Wars|Lio Convoy]] was also considered by [[3H Productions|3H]] for Alpha Trion around the same time, and it was sort of this version that briefly appeared in the comic book ([[#3H comics|see above]]). Though the toy [[Prototype|mock-up]] used Snarl, 3H hoped they could finagle the use of the Lio Convoy mold. The wireframe appearance of "Alpha Lion" in [[Departure|''The Wreckers'' #1]] used Lio Convoy's body, but Snarl's head, hopefully allowing 3H to fudge either way, should they come to a decision. They didn't!

::*[http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/resources/review/universe/alpha+trion/3368 Image gallery of the Alpha Trion Snarl redeco purchased from the Hartmans]

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===''Timelines''===
[[File:Timelinestoy-AlphaTrion.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|I'm not evil! Honest!]]
*'''Alpha Trion''' (BotCon 2007 souvenir two-pack)
**''Accessories:'' Sword, missile, Cyber Key

: A bagged set of ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Alpha Trion, [[Beta Maxx (RID)#Toys|Beta Maxx]], and [[Weirdwolf (G1)#Timelines|Weirdwolf]] was released at [[BotCon 2007]] as a souvenir set add-on, limited to 1400 pieces. Alpha Trion was a [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' Voyager Class [[Vector Prime#Cybertron|Vector Prime]], [[redeco]]ed in purple, white, and red, plus a new head designed by [[Dan Khanna]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/DantheArtguy/status/1326732569140977669 Dan Khanna on Twitter]</ref>

: Alpha Trion transforms into a large Cybertronian space cruiser with "solar panel" wings. His nosecone has a spring-loaded missile launcher at the tip. Inserting his [[Cyber Key]] (painted gold to resemble the [[Key to Vector Sigma]]) does not activate any sounds, unlike Vector Prime's toy. Alpha Trion has the more flexible translucent plastic parts ([[for safety reasons]]) of the [[Hasbro]] version of the mold.

: While this figure's design obviously derives from depictions of G1 Alpha Trion, the accompanying profile card very vaguely describes the [[Alpha Trion (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' incarnation of Alpha Trion]]. For many years there was dispute as to whose page this toy should go on according to the wiki's classification system, but in 2013, this toy appeared in the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Legends]]'' mobile game event "[[Golden Age (Legends)|Golden Age]]", and thus this toy resumed having a logical entry on this page.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Autobot/BCAlphaTrion/alphatrion.htm More information on Alpha Trion at TFU.info]''
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===''Kre-O''===
[[File:KreO-Toy AlphaTrionKreon.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Alpha Trion''' (Kreon Micro-Changer, 2014)
**''Collection'': '''4'''
**''Bag number'': '''***** 33'''
**''Accessories'': Stand brick, buildable sword/spear-thing

: Part of the fourth Collection of [[blindpacking|blind-bagged]] [[Kreon]] [[Micro-Changer]]s, ''[[Kre-O]]'' Alpha Trion can be rebuilt from a humanoid to a starship seemingly based on the [[BotCon 2007]] Alpha Trion toy (above). His vehicle-mode bits are rebuilt into a massive spear/sword/thing weapon for robot mode. His jet mode is the only Micro-Changer to fully remove the Kreon's arms in alternate mode.

:He uses the [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Jazz]] helmet... which covers his eyes when pushed all the way down on the noggin.

: This Collection was passed by most larger brick-and-mortar stores, appearing at [[Walgreens]] drug stores first and largely being relegated to similar outlets. Later releases of this wave lost the individual bag codes, meaning you either felt parts through the bag or buy blind.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/Kre-OAlphaTrion/alphatrion.htm More information on ''Kre-O'' Alpha Trion at TFU.info]''

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[[File:KreO-Toy AlphaTrionClass85.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.66|There's always that one old guy who hangs out at school long after he graduated...]]
*'''Kreon Class of 1985''' (Kreon figure set, 2015)
**''Set number'': '''B5152'''
**''Voted'': 800th Year Senior
**''Accessories'': Longsword

:This version of Kreon Alpha Trion has more intricate, cartoon-accurate detailing, and uses the ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (franchise)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#Kre-O|Galvatron]] helmet. He also comes with the longsword accessory from the ''Kre-O Dungeons & Dragons'' series for... some reason.

: He also uses the updated 2015-style Kreon body, making almost all of his parts incompatible with previous years' Kreons.

:He was only available in the "[[Kreon Class of '85]]" 30-Kreon box set, a [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2015 [[exclusive]], also sold online through [[Hasbro Toy Shop]] following the convention.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2015/Autobot/SDCCKre-OAlphaTrion/alphatrion.htm More information on Class of '85 Alpha Trion at TFU.info]''
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===''Legends''===
[[File:Legendstoy-LG14-Alpha Trion.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|So I'm basically Optimus Prime's brother and father figure? How is that acceptable?]]
*'''Ultra Magnus''' ([[September 19]], [[2015]])
**''ID number'': '''LG-14'''

:The ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' release of ''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Leader Class [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Generations|Ultra Magnus]] includes a small Alpha Trion figure, which is a redeco of the [[Minimus Ambus#Generations|Minimus Ambus]] figure (as Minimus does not appear in any Japanese-original fiction). He transforms into a Cybertronian hovercar, which can tab onto three grooves on the lower level of Magnus's trailer. In robot mode, Alpha Trion can sit inside Ultra Magnus's robot mode torso, "wearing" the Magnus head like a helmet.
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===''Titans Return''===
[[File:TF-Generations-Titans-Return-Voyager-Alpha-Trion.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Destined to be repurposed as [[Cheetor (BW)#Wings Universe|Alpha Trizer]].]]
*'''Autobot Sovereign & Alpha Trion''' (Voyager Class, 2016)
**''Accessories:'' Sword, [[Sovereign#Generations|Sovereign]] Titan Master, Gun
:''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' Alpha Trion transforms from a robot to lion to spaceship. His head transforms into the [[Titan Master]] [[Sovereign]], although his neck socket is compatible with any other Titan Master figure. Both his alternate modes are references to Alpha Trion's previous BotCon toys. He comes with a gun that Sovereign can ride in spaceship mode. As with other ''Titans Return'' Voyager figures, pressing in his chest crystal makes his head adornments spring up to "bulk up" his head. In Canada and Australia, Alpha Trion along with his wavemate [[Astrotrain (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Astrotrain]] were prominent shelfwarmers, while finding Alpha Trion anywhere in the US was a great deal more difficult.

:The Hasbro Asia exclusive giveaway sticker sheet can be used to enhance the figure's details.<ref>https://news.tfw2005.com/2016/09/23/hasbro-asia-titans-return-stickers-wave-2-325179</ref>

:This toy was [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as a body for ''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]'' [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]]. This mold was retooled into ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Lio Convoy#Legends|Leo Prime]] and ''extensively'' retooled into ''Titans Return'' [[Broadside (G1)#Generations|Broadside]] and [[Tidal Wave (Armada)#Generations|Tidal Wave]]. The sword was redecoed into ''Legends'' [[Magna Convoy]]'s [[Matrix Sword]] and ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege|Siege]]'' [[Nemesis Prime (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Nemesis Prime]]'s Ancient Sword.
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===''Power of the Primes''===
[[File:TF-POTP-Prime-Master-Alpha-Trion-with-Landmine.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''Legends'', ''Titans Return'', ''Power of the Primes''. The trilogy is complete!]]
*'''Alpha Trion''' (Prime Master, [[2018]])
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''PP-32'''
**''Japanese release date'': '''[[October 27]], 2018'''
**''Accessories:'' Landmine decoy armor, cannon

:''[[Power of the Primes (toyline)|Power of the Primes]]'' Alpha Trion is a [[retool]] of [[Vector Prime#Generations|Vector Prime]] that transforms from a small robot modeled after <s>[[Landmine (G1)#Generation 1|Landmine]]</s> [[Metalhawk (G1)#Toys|Metalhawk]]'s inner robot mode into a [[Prime Master]] that can store inside decoy armor modeled after Landmine's [[Pretender]] shell, or plug into any Prime Master shell's weapon form, or replace a ''Power of the Primes'' Leader's [[Matrix of Leadership/toys#Power of the Primes|Matrix]] core. Alpha Trion can also ride Legends Class figures and attach to Deluxe Class figures' chest armor, Voyager Class figures' bucklers, or Voyager Class figures' combined mode.
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==Merchandise==
===''Super Collection Figure''===
[[File:SCF Alpha Trion.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|You better believe people were excited for this in 2002.]]
*'''Alpha Trin''' (2002)
**''Act'': '''8'''
**''Accessories'': Stand

: The first "toy" of Alpha Trion ever made, this three-inch-tall [[plastic|PVC]] figurine was available in "Act 8" of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]]'' line. Like all the figures in the wave, it was available as both a standard full-color figure and a metallic-silver "pewter" version, one of each of which was available in a standard case of twelve [[blindpacking|blindpacked]] figures.

: The pewter version of the figure has a potential problem with connector peg breakage, due to said pegs often getting a layer of pewter paint before being forced into a socket, leading to sticking and tearing. Care should be used when moving or removing the arms; shaving down the socket interior with a thin hobby knife is usually sufficient to fix the issue.

: Additionally, the pewter version of Alpha Trion came packaged with the left leg of the [[Scorponok (G1)/toys#Super Collection Figure|Scorponok]] collectible "build-a-figure".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Cybertron/AlphaTrin/alphatrin.htm More information on ''Super Collection Figure'' Alpha Trin at TFU.info]''
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Cybertron/PewterAlphaTrin/alphatrin.htm More information on pewter Alpha Trin at TFU.info]''
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===''EX Gōkin''===
[[File:EX Gokin Alpha Trion.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|You'd be scolding young 'bots too if you had a pole in your aft...]]
*'''Alpha Trin''' (2014)
**''Accessories:'' Two fists, two open hands, two gripping hands, right pointing hand, A-3 head, two A-3 shoulders, display stand

:Produced by [[Art Storm]] as part of their ''[[EX Gōkin]]'' line, this Alpha Trion is a 6-inch tall posable figure based on his cartoon [[character model]]. He comes with a plethora of extra hands and has an articulated cape that splits in two pieces for easier posing. Alpha Trion can (sort of) be turned into his younger self, A-3, by use of an alternate head based on his appearance in "[[War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn]]" and two smaller, spike-less shoulderpads.

::*''[http://artstorm.co.jp/exgokin_transformersseries_alphatrion.html More information on ''EX Gōkin'' Alpha Trin at Art Storm's official site]''
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===''Transformers Trading Card Game''===
[[File:W3AlphaTrion.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Alpha Trion, Cybertronian Sage''' (2019)
**'''Wave 3: War for Cybertron: Siege I'''
**''Rarity: '''''RT'''
**''Card Number: '''''T01/T48'''
**''Stars: ''11

: Alpha Trion, Cybertronian Sage is one of forty-eight double-sided character cards available in Wave 3 of the [[Transformers Trading Card Game]], War for Cybertron: Siege I.
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===''ReAction''===
*'''Alpha Trion''' (2020)
:Released in the second wave of Super7's line of multi-property 3.75-inch action figures, ''ReAction'' Alpha Trion is a non-converting action figure with 5 points of articulation and is based on his appearance in the original cartoon. Unlike most releases in this line, he lacks an accessory, but does have a thin vinyl cape which is not removable. As with all releases in the ''ReAction'' toyline, Alpha Trion comes packaged in a small cardback that emulates the nostalgic packaging style of [[Kenner]] [[Star Wars (franchise)|''Star Wars'']] action figures of the late 1970's.
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==Notes==
[[File:Alpha Trion through the epochs.jpg|thumb|Once you go white, you'll never, er... be right?]]
*Alpha Trion is one of the very few Cybertronians to show signs of aging and [[Facial hair|hair growth]].
*According to a note in Japan's ''[[Comic Bom Bom]]'' magazine,{{fact|source needed}} A-3 was the first successful Cybertronian, [[A1]] and [[A2]] being failures. However, the presence of Cybertronians within the Matrix of Leadership older than Alpha Trion (as seen in "[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2|The Return of Optimus Prime]]") makes the actual [[canon]]icity of this questionable.
*Alpha Trion may be named after the {{w|Triple-Alpha Process}}, the method through which carbon is created, which in turn is the reason (human) life came to be. Given that Alpha Trion essentially "created" Optimus Prime, who in turn formed the Autobots, this is actually quite fitting.
[[File:ImAlphaTrionsHovercraftMode.jpg|thumb|"I'm Alpha Trion's hover-craft mode!"]]
*Alpha Trion had a hover-craft [[alternate mode]] designed for his appearance in ''[[The Transformers: Ironhide]]'', but ultimately didn't end up transforming in that mini-series. The vehicle mode was first revealed in the trade paperback's extras, and would eventually be used in-continuity as part of a flashback sequence in "[[Earthfall Chapter 3: The Mind Bomb|The Mind Bomb]]" and in the ''[[Transformers Legends (mobile game)|Transformers Legends]]'' episode "[[Megatron Origins]]".
[[File:TFGenerations2014 Rejected AlphaTrion.jpg|thumb|Denied.]]
*A mock-up of an Alpha Trion toy in the form of a ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Generations|Scourge]] redeco was shown in ''[[Transformers Generations 2014]]'' Vol. 1 as one of ten potential exclusives for Vol. 2. During the fan poll held to determine which of the ten would be produced, Alpha Trion claimed 28.9% of the votes but ultimately came second place under [[Goshooter#Generations|Goshooter]].<ref>[http://millionhero.sblo.jp/article/101898683.html Poll results at Hero-X]</ref> He would have come with a redecoed [[Eggbot (BW)|Eggbot]] to represent Vector Sigma.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Alpha Trin''' (アルファートリン ''Arufā Torin''), '''Alpha Trion''' (アルファトライオン ''Arufa Toraion'')
*''Hebrew:'' '''Alpha Trion''' (אלפא טריון, "Alpha Trion")
*''Indonesian:'' '''Alfa Trion'''
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Talk:Seeker (body-type)

2021-10-28T03:39:53Z

Leo1452: /* Aligned continuity Seekers */

==Additional Pic==

Full catalog page scan.

[[Image:Seekers_ad.jpg|thumb]]
:Does anyone have the page that ran OPPOSITE this one? (It had a GoBots ad, IIRC.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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==Older Stuff==
In my opinion, both "Seeker" and "Skyraider" should be capitalized, since both are the formal names of subgroups. In fact, the article itself mentions that "Seeker" is capitalized in the JCPenney catalog, which is the only primary source for the term in which capitalization is even distincted (as opposed to the all-capitals use in TWW). -[[User:LV|LV]] 00:44, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. I got carried away with my de-capitalizing things thing. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:05, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Starscream-types in Armada are known as Seekers too, according to page 13 of the DK Reader 'The Awakening,' ISBN 0-78-94-9741-7

What about something about how the coneheads have radicly different character modles becuse they were desinged by Floro Deary, and not by the takara guys that did the Season 1 designs? --X-BoB

I wouldn't call the coneheads "radically" different, but, sure. I'll toss that in. Also, about the paragraph you inserted:

I'm not sure what "according to 3H" is supposed to mean. Are you referring to a statement that Glen or Tengu or somebody made, or do you just mean that the Seeker characters who appeared in 3H's comics happened to have the same design as BM Jetstorm and his drones?

--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I remember Glen or Dan saying that Wreckers Skywarp's body is a common bodytype to the Beast Era, but 1) I'm not sure they said anything about it belonging to the remaining Seekers, 2) I'm not sure it has any relevance to the entry, and 3) the toy Jetstorm looks NOTHING like the show Jetstorm, so I have no idea how one would be based on the other. I'm removing it for now, with the additional note to whomever is consistently misspelling "based" to cut it out. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

If the Jetstorm toy ''is'' the Beast Era Seeker body then that means that within fiction it came before the Aerodrones.[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh cool, I didn't know that. I just assumed he' was one of the smaller-drones who was gonna be associated with the Vehicon General body Megatron made for Cyclonus. (That is right, right?) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Didn't Cryotek make Cyclonus' body? -XBob
:IIRC, Cyclonus' bio says that he was a botched plan of Megatron's to make him one of his Generals, but his boxart depicts Cryotek. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:29, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure I agree with the bits about Seeker "going back to being a fan-term" when DW folded. Especially since it is followed by a remark that it HAS been used officially since.
Once something IS an official term, it can't return to being a fan term. Official is official and "Seeker" is now such.

could they be clones
:Dreamwave's Summer Special explicitly referenced "Air Warrior Clones" who were generic Seekers. So ''some'' Seekers are clones. It's unclear whether they ''all'' are, though it's strongly implied in MTMTE #8 that at least some redeco characters are clones. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 21:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yes. Sunstorm and ricochet are both clones... in Dreamwave continuity. In non-Dreamwave continuities they're NOT clones. (We even got an explicit origin for one of the TDU incarnations of Sunstorm that mentioned his powers coming from a manufacturing error.) Dreamwave was clone-happy. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Actually, I was referring to the Summer Special story, where Megatron goes to Beest to find the Predacons and takes a bunch of purple Seekers with him. The title page for that story lists them as "Air Warrior Clones." (Either that, or I'm losing my mind.) --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 21:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Right, that's the Air Cavalry set- the 3 purple PVC's we got as botcon exclusives. But AFAIK, they're supposed to represent 3 survivors (or at least zombie-like salvages) from the hordes of seeker clones in The Age of Wrath. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

==Strike Planes==
I remembered Seekers being called 'Strike Planes' in catalogues when they first came out in the UK, and finally found something that backs up my memory - see http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-image/toysheets/g1/uksheet01/1.jpg/image.html . Is this worth a mention in the article?

:Interesting! I'll stick it in the article. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::I've just found some old clipping of several 1985 UK store catalogues from 1985 that call the Seeker toys 'Strike Planes' so presumably this was in the Hasbro marketing blurb. Would these be of use or is there enough evidence already? [[User:J'mie|J'mie]] 14:08, 28 August 2010 (EDT)

Another one is the extremely descriptive "Jet Plane" which can be seen in [http://www.flickr.com/photos/38301877@N05/3592674735/in/photostream/ the 1985 Argos catalogue] (also look out for a Conehead Skywarp). As some of the other names/omissions are seen in other early UK adverts (e.g. Soundwave being nameless) there's almost certainly a Hasbro influence in the descriptions. Note also the use of "Trans-Formers". [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 14:10, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

==Move==
I do think that this should be moved to an article title with SOME form of parenthetical disambiguation. Since there IS another "Seeker" that is a separate concept that DOES have a PD. I'm not wild about "group", but lacking a better term... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:03, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:I dunno, I think this would be the primary term people would think about when you give the term "Seeker". The minicon is definitely less well known, so I think it could just be noted at the top of this page "for the minicon named Seeker, please see..." --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::Except that's inconsistent with everything else that requires a disambig on this wiki. Most people think of G1 Prime when you say "Optimus Prime", but he still has the (G1) tag. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think that G1 Prime is comparable, as many other Optimus Primes have plenty of history and backstory. Energon Seeker is a easily forgotten toy that I think should actually be at the bottom of the main Seeker page, as it doesn't have a lot of info on its own. That being said, if the G1 seekers need disambiguation, how about "Seeker (subgroup)" --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree this should sit in a Disambig (and because there are only two of them, let "Seeker" direct to this one.) But the Seekers aren't a 'group,' they're a classification. I'd say "Seeker (jets)", but the mini-con ''is'' a jet already. "Seeker (type)"? It looks kinda weird, but it's... really clear. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:The page should be moved to be consistent with our revised disambig rules, and plain old "Seeker" should redirect to it. Picking a parenthetical for the page is not trivial, though. The Seekers aren't really an official subgroup (unless they've been declared that recently in some random ad copy someplace) so we shouldn't use that (and I'm going to take that category away). "Group" and "type" are a little vague, but, something clear like "common body type" is too awkward. As soon as somebody as a good idea, I'll be happy to move the article and update all the links with my bot. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::"classification"? "body-type"?
::Also... "''Energon Seeker is a easily forgotten toy that I think should actually be at the bottom of the main Seeker page, as it doesn't have a lot of info on its own.''"... that is a profoundly bad idea. Joe-Stalker isn't on the Predator-Stalker page, and all three Flashes are separated. He's not ''a'' Seeker. He's not even a Decepticon. And as an individual character, no matter how little he does, he should get his own page. Stuffing him on a page ''completely unrelated'' to him makes no sense whatsoever, and would make the categories the page appears in REALLY screwed up. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Animated ==

Would it be appropriate now to start a section on the Animated Seekers, or do we have to wait for "Fistful of Energon"?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 05:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:We're probably going to wait until they are actually CALLED Seekers. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::Well, we at least know that there are going to be characters along the same concept. Even if they don't end up being called Seeker's, I think it would be correct to add that a similar group exists in Animated.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
'''''SPOILERS, GODDAMMIT.''''' --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:05, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::...err, no. The actual episodes which introduce the Seekers may have yet to air, but that Starscream clones/twins will appear in the series was announced a while ago. Besides, we have a "Spoilers" tag anyway.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

==Movieverse Seekers==
In [[The Reign of Starscream issue 2]], Starscream refers to himself as having "Seeker attributes" on page 7, and refers to Thundercracker as a Seeker on page 20. Although the synopsis has yet to be written for the comic, since it has been released, should this info be added to this page? Just wanted to make sure, since there's been such a freak-out over spoilers lately. --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 00:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
: [[Defiance issue 4]] also uses the term Seekers to describe the folks sent to blah blah blah way way back at the dawn of time. Seems to include Jetfire. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:57, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

== Questions about the toy section: ==

Are we only counting molds that were redecoed into multiple characters during a franchise or are we including molds that have been in multiple toylines as different characters? For example: the Armada Thrust mold was released as Universe Sunstorm, but this is nowhere mentioned on the page. Also, Cybertron Thundercracker was redecoed as Movie Divebomb.

Movie Dreadwing and Overcast share a mold, but neither is a name that was previously identified as a "Seeker"; do they belong here or not? They are a "family" of jet-mode Decepticons, after all. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:03, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
Adding on another question: What about the 3" Titanium Starscream and Thundercracker? They DEFINITELY should be here, but I'm not sure if they would go under Toys or Merchandise. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:12, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== A second '84-era use of "Seeker" ==
<nowiki>http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/tf84/84_k25nov_zayre.jpg</nowiki> Courtesy crazysteve, here's a November 1984 Zayre circular listing "Decepticon Seekers" for $11.99 a pop. This definitely supports the theory that "Seeker" was used at some early stage, and if the JC Penney catalog and a fairly large regional department store chain both used the term in their advertising, it makes sense that other retailers did too; it's just a matter of finding the evidence. (crazysteve, being crazy, finds these by spending hours in a public library on microfiche readers. i do not have the time for that sort of thing.) [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 07:47, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
:I can't seem to get the darn thing to load.... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:31, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
::I added a question mark to the end of the URL and well... an image loaded alright, but it wasn't a Zayre circular listing. It appears to be a three-way Beast Wars sex act. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 04:28, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
:::I can see it, but then I've got an anti-''anti-''hotlink filter. Copy and paste the link. *tells MediaWiki not to render text as a clickable link* - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 10:08, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
::::Is that 2 YELLOW Cliffjumpers in that picture? Or is the robot mode one actually Bumper? Either way it's an interesting use of non standard toys in the ad.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:21, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::[http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf84.html This should work]. Text is reproduced on the page, which should help to find it easily.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:28, 1 December 2009 (EST)
::::::Interesting. Perhaps Seeker was an assortment name? It's the only reason I can think of that different stores would use the same uncommon and specialized terminology. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 22:57, 1 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::Looks like you were right: [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-general-discussion/1061758-seekers-term.html Link 1], [http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/101932-tfwikinet-thread-30/?p=3159889 link 2] --[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 02:54, 24 February 2016 (EST)

== (G1)? ==
Why has this been moved to Seeker (G1) when it contains non-G1 stuff? Is the article going to be split? Is that really necessary? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:19, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:I agree that the choice of parenthetical doesn't make sense, and came here to the same point as you on that - but the plot of ROTF involves "Seekers" that have no connection to Starscream & co, so it needs '''a''' parenthetical.
:But (G1) isn't it. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 19:49, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
::"(G1)" is correct by the standards. It is the first franchise appearance. See [[Sideways (RID)]] and [[Cryotek (RID)]] - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:21, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Sideways and Cryotek are the exact same character in the multiple continuities, so it makes sense to label them with the first continuity they showed up in.
:::However, this is just a similar concept in multiple continuities. The Movie Seekers may have a similar ''concept'' to G1 Seekers, but the Movie Seekers as a ''specific group'' showed up first in the Movies, not G1.
:::But I guess the operative question is, do we have any other non-character multiple-continuity-spanning articles with parentheticals to study as a precedent? Energon (G1) got moved to Energon (fuel), and that's the only one I know of right off the top of my head. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:36, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
::::The ROTF "Seekers" have a very specific ''function'' which is unrelated to body types. Not the same thing as Starscream/Thundercracker/Skywarp/etc at all.
::::And a concept should have a parenthetical after the concept, even if it's something basic like "Seeker (jets)". Not after a franchise. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 17:47, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::You say it should, but I fail to see why the system that works for characters doesn't work here. The Movie and ROTF Seekers are to be split out because they are not the same thing as the G1 Seekers at all. Ditto for Shattered Glass Seekers. That leaves almost completely G1 material, with one Armada reference. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:57, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
::::::The modern use of Movie seekers (the elite unit including Starscream and Thundercracker) could probably stay here. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:01, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Well, that's not going to be the MAIN use of "Seeker" in the Movie continuity family, but it's a valid use and should probably stay on this page if it's referring to "Starscream clones".
:::::::And that's the main use of this page, to refer to reuses of the Starscream [[body-type]] in various continuities and continuity families. Given that this page includes at least four continuity families (G1, UT, Animated and Movie), I fail to see how [[Seeker (body-type)]] would be less vague and open to confusion, since it explicitly ties in to an existing article. Especially since it very clearly disambiguates from the ROTF use of "Seeker".
:::::::I certainly don't believe that disambiguating by franchise always works for characters as well as Interrobang alleges, especially for franchise-jumpers like Sideways (whose whole claim to be an "RID" character is based on a case the article admits is "not airtight" involving an obscure Wal-Mart-exclusive toy with the same name and some Japanese-exclusive publicity material - hell, on that score, given the Japanese Car Robots retcons, it should probably be Sideways (G1)...) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:39, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

"Seeker (body-type)" seems a bit vague, since there are multiple body-types. How about "Seeker (classification)"? That sorta straddles a border between body class and function, which seem to be how Seekers are used. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:45, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:Movie Seekers could be a "body-type" that can cross interstellar space. They could also be a "classification." How about "Seeker (J.C. Penny wishbook)"? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:20, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

== Merge or delete ==
Is it really necessary to have separate articles for [[Seeker (SG)]], [[Seeker (Movie)]], and [[Seeker (ROTF)]] in addition to the coverage given those uses of the term here? Two of the three are only stubs, and even the ROTF article is fairly short. It would seem that either the relevant material should be removed from this article or those articles should be deleted. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:33, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
:The answer is in the discussion right above you. Namely, it was decided that this and the other Seeker types are all completely different concepts rather than minor variations on the same concept. The amount of info available has no relevance on the question. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:38, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
::Addendum: Plus that reminds me that the SG Seeker page really should be on my list of SG articles to update. *adds* --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:42, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Then why retain so much about the Unicron Trilogy and Movieverse seekers on this page? If they are separate enough to warrant their own articles, they are separate enough NOT to be in this article. The disambiguation link would be enough.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:01, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

Is it really necessary to have a page for Optimus Prime for each continuity? YES! The word "Seeker" has different
definitions to SG, Movie and ROTF.

== Propose renaming this article to Seeker (G1) ==

Given that there are now articles for [Seeker (SG)], [Seeker (Movie)], and [Seeker (ROTF)] as well as [Starscream clone] and a section on "hunter-seeker skyships" at [Ferak]; I propose that this page be renamed (and slightly redone) as Seeker (G1). Much information here would remain as is. However; sections 3 (Unicron trilogy), 4 (Live-action movie), 5 (Shattered Glass) and some parts of section 8 (toys, specifically 8.3, 8.10, 8.11) would be transferred to the appropriate pages. This would necessitate the creation of 1 new page: Seeker (Unicron trilogy). Toy section 8.7 would be modified to mention that the Legends of Cybertron mold was used for [Ramjet (G1)] despite being used primarily for characters from other franchises. Toy section 8.6 is somewhat unclear as to whether the characters mentioned are all G1, all other franchises, or a mixture of the two. The note in the first paragraph (and also the Decepticons in later franchises such as Armada where similar "families" of jets appear) would be changed to a simple statement that the G1 group inspired similar groups in later franchises, with the disambiguation page serving to lead readers to these other pages. Much of the information is already in place on the other pages, this process would simply insure that nothing was lost. The disambiguation page already seems to effectively treat this page as Seeker (G1). Changing the name would serve to clarify the distinctions between the similar groups. Also, this would prevent "drift" as data relevant to other lines would be placed on those pages entirely and not haphazardly here or there or both randomly. Opinions? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:03, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:NO.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:06, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
::Haven't we already covered this twice on this very page? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 23:31, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:::THIRD TIME'S THE CHARM I GUESS. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:41, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
::::It just seems strange that this page contains information on similar groups from multiple continuities including some with their own pages already. It seemed to me that that was what disambiguation pages were for. I had made this proposal because I felt that Jeysie had misunderstood my previous one. That happens to me fairly often. If no one else seems confused, I will not press further. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:56, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

That said, shouldn't [[Seeker (Movie)]] (not to be confused with the ROTF Seekers) be merged into here, while the stuff about the SG Seekers should be removed from this page entirely? A touch of cleanup couldn't hurt. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:12, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
:For consistency, I think you're right. Khajidha has a valid point, that right now the situation between all the various "Seeker" pages is confused. In fact, between this page's description of the Movie Seekers and the [[Seeker (Movie)]] description, I can't tell if that "Seeker" is really a body-type designation or just indicating membership of a team. Does anyone have that issue of the comic and can give us some hard quotes?
:But while I'm basically in agreement with you in terms of status-quo maintenance, I'm not sure what the ideal content and title of this page ought to be. For one thing, I'm leaning towards the "(G1)" side because this article only talks about other franchises ''in relation to G1.'' The "Unicron Trilogy" section openly ''brushes aside'' that universe's definition of "Seeker" just to talk about how the toy designers made some G1 homages. The SG stuff, as you say, has no place here. And the Movie Seekers, while officially Seekers in the traditional way, don't really add anything of substance to the concept. They seem to be just another parroting of the G1 idea, albeit with more in-fiction backup than their UT equivalent.
:So, if it's correct to say that this article is essentially G1-focused, then the question arises of what non-G1 stuff actually belongs here. I'm.... not ready to say [[Seeker (Movie)]] really doesn't deserve its own page. I think it depends on how much meat can be found in that comic issue. My instinct is to prune the hell out of the non-G1 content until it's just a few sentences and a bunch of "See this other article for more info" notes. But that's more an idle thought than an actual proposal.
:Overall, I agree with those above who have said that "(body type)" is an awkward, possibly-inaccurate parenthetical. But it's an awkward article, and I feel like streamlining it will help settle the titling question.
:- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 23:54, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

You don't need to read anything above. Just read this: Naming this page Seeker (G1) is a ridiculous idea, considering that it describes the Seeker body-type in all continuities, not just G1.

==The 'Lady in Purple'==
What or who is it? I've never heard of a possibly female Seeker in g1--[[Special:Contributions/91.113.121.205|91.113.121.205]] 19:10, 4 March 2010 (EST)
:There wasn't any female Seekers in G1. The "Lady in Purple" was apparently from some fan fiction. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:19, 4 March 2010 (EST)
:There's a vaguely female-looking seeker in one shot of MTMTE part 3, which fanon has retconned into being female. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:30, 4 March 2010 (EST)
::I know which "character" it is, but that's only because I accidentally found that information on another site long ago. Perhaps someone more in the know could write a short article for the character/add the remaining information to this article? Because as it is now, I find the mention of something that's supposedly "infamous" yet seemingly surprisingly obscure confusing. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:42, 5 March 2010 (EST)
:::There is no "character" for an article to be written for. We don't have articles for single generics who don't do anything but fill out group shots. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 12:18, 5 March 2010 (EST)
::::She's a "Raksha-creation", right? A trivia note on Raksha's page to link to would be all needed. That, or the info on LiP should be outright deleted since it's only confusing like this. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:33, 5 March 2010 (EST)

''Slipstream is not fan fiction. She is in Generation 1 video games. This wiki is not just about the cartoons and movies.''
:This is from 3 frickin years ago, they're talking about someone else. Sign your posts. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:39, 18 September 2013 (EDT)

=="Origin of term "Seeker""==
I don't think it's that odd that the JC Penny catalogs could've started the trend among a whole legion of Transfans. I remember those catologs being in heavy rotation. You were mailed them quite often. I also remember the "seeker" term from far back even before the internet. I definitely picked it up before then so it was probably from the book [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 13:58, 27 April 2010 (EDT)
::Also, those of us not rich enough to afford the toys often held on to the catalog pages for long periods of time. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:05, 27 April 2010 (EDT)

==The Section on G1 Seekers==
I notice that the G1 section is essentially a list of the different categories (Coneheads, Skyraiders etc), whereas the sections on other continuities go into what being a seeker actually is. AHM and then the Ongoing (esp. Issue 4) gave us a more detailed look at the meaning of this term (in the IDW G1 continuity anyway), with why they all look the same, what their purpose is among the Decepticon army and other various intricacies explored. Should we have a section on this? It seems quite pertinent and I feel that the G1 seeker section is lacking in information (it seems like more of a list if I'm being honest). --[[User:SharkyMcShark|SharkyMcShark]] 01:10, 12 July 2010 (EDT)

I've added a section under the G1 seekers heading for the IDW comics continuity. --[[User:SharkyMcShark|SharkyMcShark]] 23:53, 12 July 2010 (EDT)

==Toys==
Should we maybe add Armada Thrust, since he was redecoed into a Sunstorm? Also maybe G2 Skyquake/Machine Wars Starscream since Botcon 2009 has Skyquake as a seeker. And fore that matter Energon Starscream got redecoed twice for Botcon 2009, with both Skyquake and Leozack being seekers there for sure--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 19:50, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

=="Classic Pretender" Seekers==
Do [[:Image:PretenderClassicsBoxArt.jpg|these guys]] count? Was flicking through some old comics the other day and the green Starscream leapt out at me. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:40, 12 August 2011 (EDT)

:Wow. I've looked at that pic plenty of times and it never occurred to me that we were seeing a squad of alt-colored Pretender Starscream there. I'd vote for counting them.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 19:12, 12 August 2011 (EDT)

== Where is the "Go" image for this page from? ==
[[Image:GB-SeekerGroup.jpg|thumb]]

The Seeker in the image doesn't look like it's listed on this page. Just to make it easier for people to answer me, here is the image. {{unsigned|RavenG}}
:Is that Dirge?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 12:07, 12 December 2011 (EST)
::I'm curious about this too. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 23:39, 27 December 2011 (EST)
{{--}}
:::I thought it might be from Sticker Adventures, but apparently not. Just a really close clone: [http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/books/sticker/return/return.html] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:55, 27 December 2011 (EST)
::::It's from a punch-out book. I have big scans of it somewhere... --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 08:42, 28 December 2011 (EST)
:::::I've got scans I downloaded from somewhere (quite possibly from your site, Monzo). There's also a grey bodied jet with red wings. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:38, 28 December 2011 (EST)

== Comic-Magazin Seeker. ==

I added the the Seeker from the German comics. This is my very first contribution to the wiki so I hope everything is acceptable.
--[[User:RavenG|RavenG]] 05:23, 12 December 2011 (EST)

== Classics mold ==

I've just gone through and redid the section on the Classics Seeker mold. If no one objects, I plan on removing the never ending list of redecoes and retools from the individual pages and simply inserting a link to the Classics section on this page. This should help keep the various pages from getting out of date to varying degrees. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:51, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

==Another 1984 use of "Seeker" ==
Interestingly enough, it's also in the earliest known newspaper ad for TF products - [http://newspaperarchive.com/panama-city-news-herald/1984-04-29/page-155 April 29, 1984]. It's SO early that the ad copy has to explain THESE ARE THE GOOD GUYS AND THESE ARE THE BAD GUYS. This is REALLY early ad copy, so someone, somewhere, had this "Seeker" thing very very early on. Crazysteve (who knows these things) says this actually predates Hasbro employees' recollections of when the toys hit shelves (the general consensus was "sometime in May.) Interesting! [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:02, 1 August 2012 (EDT)
:And the mini-cars are described as "drones". Weird. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:15, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

== Chrome Seekers on Spacebridge Facebook Page ==
"The Spacebridge" just revealed samples of 4 unreleased shiny repaints of the Diaclone mold, one of which was the Takara 'book-reissue' Starscream with Megatron gun. They were potential retailer-exclusive contest prizes...I didn't quite understand it myself. This naturally means new entries to Screamer, Thundercracker, and Sunstorm's toy sections, plus the the 1984 toy section for this page, but the all silver one I'm not sure about. Is there a precedent for that? Unless/until they find documents confirming he was supposed to be an established character, should he have his own page: "Silver Chome Seeker" + unofficial-name tag? Or does he just become a footnote here? [[User:Bumblevivisector|Bumblevivisector]] 20:38, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== Aligned continuity Seekers ==

This page should be concentrating on the Seeker body-type. The Aligned continuity section of this page contains all the members of the Energon Seekers, a team of jet-based Transformers. Not all members of this Seeker team are of the Seeker body-type. We should be spending time to determine which ones are Seekers and which ones are just in the Seeker team. -- Dreadwing has never been of the Seeker-body type in previous continuities. In the Prime cartoon, he is a part of the Seeker TEAM but if he were truly of the Seeker BODY-TYPE, why isn't his TWIN a Seeker too? -- Jetfire has never been of the Seeker body-type in other continuities and in Aligned, he does not resemble any of the other Seekers. -- Nacelle and Contrail have never existed in other continuities, and Contrail does not appear to be of the Seeker-body type. -- The Ace Vehicons (silver Jet Vehicons) are considered Seekers by Starscream. It is not sure whether they are called Seekers under a different definition. If Ace Vehicons are of the Seeker body-type, why aren't the standard purple Jet Vehicons also Seekers? -- All other Seekers in the Seeker team are definitely of the Seeker body-type. {{unsigned|Leo1452}}
:A) Sign your posts, and B) Aligned Continuity Seekers are basically "any flying Decepticon who has a jet-like altmode." Or at least, that's how it was both during and before the Great War. By the time of TF: Prime, though, the term has apparently become more selective (with only specific individuals having belonged to the Seekers since the group no longer officially exists in the present day), but still not tied to any specific body design. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 18:36, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::Nnnooo. If it's called a seeker, it's a seeker. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:37, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::This page is for the BODY-TYPE. The word "Seeker" can refer to many things, some of which are not the BODY-TYPE. Which Seeker from the Energon Seekers are of the Seeker BODY-TYPE? I know that the Energon Seekers is not tied to specific body-types. I'm just saying that we should determine which characters of the Aligned continuity are of the BODY-TYPE. [[User:Leo1452]] 18:45, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::Look, the body type diambiguation really only applies to the G1 and Animated versions. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:47, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::Since the movies, it's been less a "body type" and more a subgroup, I guess. Seekers don't even need to fly, since some of the movie seekers turn into cars. Maybe this article just needs to have a new parenthetical? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:48, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::Or maybe it needs to be split as I've suggested before. There is a need for a page about the ''term'' Seeker which this page is sort of trying to fill but it is buried in what Seekers are in each continuity family. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:28, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::Movie has 3 definitions for Seekers, ONE of which is a team of Decepticons of the same body-type. [[User:Leo1452]] 18:49, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I understand that body-type in Seekers has become less important over the years. The Unicron Trilogy definition for Seekers is any jet-based Decepticon, but there were still come Seekers of the same design (Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker). It has been said that Aligned Seekers often, but not always, have similar designs. Can't we spend some time to determine which ones in Aligned are of similar design? [[User:Leo1452]] 18:53, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::That's easy, but still, not going to change the facts. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:03, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::What facts? [[User:Leo1452]] 19:11, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::That the Seekers of the Aligned Continuity do not all share the exact same general body design despite their all still being Seekers.
:::::::::::Also, this term "Energon Seekers" you keep tossing around is nothing special. Starscream's claim of having been the leader of them just refers to the entire Seeker Air Command itself. Any claims of "Energon Seekers" being anything different from just "Seekers" in general (strictly regarding the Aligned Continuity that is) are fanon. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:50, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Not fanon. He refers to them as Energon Seekers. Even though that isn't the principal name for it, I'm using it to help differentiate. Anyways, although the term Seeker is becoming less of a body-type and more of a team, almost in every continuity Starscream has followers identical or similar in body-type to him. G1 has the Seekers who are of the same body-type as him. Beast Wars Terrorsaur(who provides a similar effect as G1 Starscream on the series)'s Cybertron mode is identical to Waspinator's Cybertron mode. BWII Starscream has his fellow Jet Warriors Dirge and Thrust. Armada Starscream has Skywarp and Thundercracker with identical body-types to him. Movie Starscream has his team of nearly identical Seekers. Animated Starscream has his clones. What does Aligned Starscream have? I remember that he once had a squad of clones but that was only in 1 episode of Prime. That can't be it. Are the Ace Vehicons meant to give the same effect as the Seekers he leads in G1? --[[User:Leo1452]] 21:41, 18 September 2-13 (EDT)
::::::::::::::The silver Vehicons are referred to in multiple episodes as seekers, ISTR. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:50, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Thank you. Are they meant to give the same effect as the Seekers that G1 Starscream leads? And do these Ace Vehicons have a similar design to Starscream? I understand that they also transform into jets and they have a similar paint job but is the body-type the same? --[[User:Leo1452]] 21:57, 18 September 2-13 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::They transform into the same alt-mode as the regular jet vehicons (essentially a car with wings) so they're not Earth jets like Starscream is, no. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:18, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::Do the Ace Vehicons appear in Prime season 1? Also, are they lead by Starscream? Is the name "Ace Vehicon" the official term? Was the term ever used in the Prime cartoon? --[[User:Leo1452]] 22:47, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::The term "Ace Vehicon" is from the toy; they were referred to exclusively as "seekers" in the cartoon. They only appear in season 3. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:15, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::::The Seekers of Aligned continuity, excluding Starscream, include the Ace Vehicons, Blitstream, Contrail, Dreadwing, Hotlink, Jetfire, Nacelle, Skywarp, Slipstream and Thundercracker. Out of these Seekers, only Blitstream, Hotlink, Skywarp, Slipstream and Thundercracker can be confirmed as of the same body-type of Starscream (if no one disagrees with this then it should be noted in the article). No direct indication is needed to know that. They bear the same names as their G1 counterparts, whom they are influenced by. -- Dreadwing has never been of the same design as Starscream in other continuities (unless you consider the Movie continuity Dreadwing a Seeker, though that is still under questioning), and even though he transforms in a similar way to Starscream, he doesn't resemble him at all in Prime. He probably isn't of the same body-type as Starscream. -- Jetfire has never been of the same design as Starscream in other continuities. He doesn't resemble Starscream so he probably isn't of Starscream's design. -- Nacelle and Contrail do not exist in any other continuities. I've seen Contrail and he looks nothing like Starscream, and he definitely doesn't transform in a similar way. He probably isn't of the same design. Nacelle, I've never seen. -- The Ace Vehicons have the same paint job but definitely not the same body-type as Starscream. -- Am I right to assume that in the Aligned continuity, Dreadwing, Jetfire, Contrail and the Ace Vehicons are not of the same design as Starscream? [[User:Leo1452]] 23:45, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
Out of curiosity, have you even watched the show, or played any of the games, or read any of the books or comics? What makes one a Seeker in the Aligned Continuity is their having been called a Seeker. All of the individuals listed under the aligned continuity section of this page are Seekers because they have been said to be Seekers, regardless of whether they look like Starscream or not. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 09:21, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:That appears to be the entire point of the discussion: This article is titled Seeker '''(BODY TYPE)''', so why is a section of it listing non-body-type-sharing Seekers? Something probably needs to change, either the title or the content. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 10:14, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::I think this article suffers by trying to be a grab-bag of every instance of "Seeker". Wouldn't it be better to split it up by continuity family? (Have the UT characters even been called Seekers?) [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 10:40, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Sabrblade, are you having trouble understanding what I am saying? I only asked who is of the same body-type. I have stopped asking a loooooooooooooong time ago which of the Aligned Seekers are of the Seeker body-type because now I know that Aligned has no body-type called "Seeker." I am watching the Prime cartoon as it is airing. I have done my research and what I ask in this discussion is what I cannot find through this research. The reason that it seems that I am asking stupid questions is that my initial question that started this discussion may have appeared stupid to YOU, so affecting the way you look at any words I say. You have been nothing but condescending. You have shown disrespect to me only for asking what others' opinions are on various subjects. I have not stated any false information while you have. (Not ANY jet-based Aligned DECEPTICONS are Seekers. The Energon Seekers have existed long before the formation of the Decepticons. Not all Seekers joined the Decepticons; some are Autobots. Also, there are MANY non-Seeker jet-based Decepticons who aren't Seekers. -- ALSO, you called something that you didn't know "fanon.") The "hugeness" of your interest for Transformers does not determine the credibility of your information, nor does it justify judgement of "lesser" fans. I am sorry for pointing this out. I only want this discussion to be a friendly debate, not a chance for you to hit down a fellow fan's ideas. I understand that discussion pages are not for personal subjects but this is an exception that needed to be make this talk a more insightful one. --[[User:Leo1452]] 17:03, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::::KilMichaelMcC, I understand what you mean. Even though the body-type of Aligned Starscream isn't called "Seeker," we should try to only list Transformers of the same body-type as Starscream in the Aligned section. Then, maybe, we could have a separate page for the Energon Seekers (team) composed of those jet-based Transformers who look for Energon. --[[User:Leo1452]] 17:11, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::Look, Energon Seekers are the exact same thing as regular Seekers. If it's called a seeker, then it's a goddamn seeker. Also, Sabrblade is just showing that what the fiction is saying. We don't go agaisnt the fiction. And he's not exactly hitting you're ideas. Just pointing out the facts. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 17:36, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::I think if Starscream's bodytype is not what makes him a seeker, then we should not be listing it as a seeker bodytype. IMHO that only increases the argument to rename this "Seeker (subgroup)". I don't know if I agree with splitting it by continuity family, but that's another option. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:40, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::Yes, subgroup does sound a lot better. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:23, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::Escargon, Sabrblade was not pointing out facts. If you paid attention and research what he said as well as pay attention to DETAIL in the articles of multiple wikis and guides, you'd know that he has only said ONE fact: that the Energon Seekers are currently non-existent. You are not showing what the fiction is. You are assuming and creating your own fiction. I am only asking questions for things that the fiction has not been clear enough about. The Energon Seekers are NOT THE SAME THING as the Seekers you incorrectly called "regular." Time and time again, you have either ignored or misunderstood that THE TERM SEEKER HAS MULTIPLE DEFINITIONS. A character can be called a Seeker and not be of the body-type. Once again I say that THIS PAGE IS SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON THE BODY-TYPE AND ONLY THE BODY TYPE. Please do not argue further with this. Know the facts. Know the fiction. -- Now, we can already be sure that Skywarp, Thundercracker, Slipstream, Bitstream and Hotlink are of the same body-type as Starscream. The Ace Vehicons, Dreadwing, Jetfire, Nacelle and Contrail are still under questioning. We'd need to turn to more reliable sources outside of this wiki to determine if they are of the same body-type as Starscream. Also, WFC on DS features Dirge and Thrust. Why were they not listed? --[[User:Leo1452]] 18:29, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::Dirge and Thrust are not listed because they we're never called seekers. It's fanon if you think they we're. Plus, we don't know if what holds true for a G1 universe (Hotlink and Bitstream sharing Seeker body types) even means they look like Starscream in Alinged.
::::::::::Also, I'd support a move to Group, over Body type. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:35, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::There are hundreds of Air Warriors in the background of comics and cartoons without names. They were never referred to as Seekers. It is implied. If Dirge and Thrust truly are not Seekers in Aligned, which I am not saying is impossible, we need to prove it. If we cannot prove it, we'll need to at least mention them. For example: "Dirge and Thrust were featured in both Autobot and Decepticon versions of War For Cybertron on Nintendo DS, though they have never been directly referred to as Seekers." Or something like that. And yes, I am only assuming that Bitstream and Hotlink are Seekers. We'd need to prove that they are of the same body-type as Starscream. --[[User:Leo1452]] 18:47, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::This is starting to sound a lot like fanon. We only use what we see in fiction, and for now, that means Dirge and Ramjet (not Thrust.) are not Seekers. I say we just move this thing to Group already.
::::::::::::::You have to understand that isn't fanon to mention that certain characters who perfectly fit under the category of Seekers, but have never been referred to as Seekers, isn't fanon. It's simply noting something to DECREASE assumptions. For example, on disambiguation pages, there is often a "not to be confused with" section of the page. --[[User:Leo1452]]
:::::::::::::::Why do you keep saying Bitstream and Hotlink are the same body-type as Starscream? Also, why do you think there is any body-type called a Seeker in the Aligned continuity besides the WFC "Energon Seeker" that we only know three people had once millions of years ago? -[[User:LV|LV]] 19:39, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::Are you serious? Are you kidding me? I only said that Bitstream and Hotlink were of the same design as Starscream ONCE, and was corrected. I said that we need to prove that they AREN'T the same body-type as Starscream. And I did NOT say that there is a body type called "Seeker" in Aligned. I said that there ISN'T and that the term "Seeker" in Aligned refers to the team, NOT a body-type. And Energon Seekers isn't a body type and it is clear that there are far more than 3 NAMED Energon Seekers from years ago. I don't know what you were on when you read what I wrote and your sources for your "facts" are probably ComicVine and Fanfiction.net. Know the facts. Know the fiction. We have already established the things you are bringing back up long ago. --[[User:Leo1452]] 21:31, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::The day we have to prove that characters we've never seen aren't the same body-type as other characters is the day cretins like you overrun the wiki. -[[User:LV|LV]] 21:49, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:Can we please keep the discussion a bit more civil? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:51, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::This whole argument was unnecessary. In the Aligned continuity, the term "seeker" does not refer to a body-type, but a group. Although the term is very ambiguous in this reality, it is definetly not a body-type. Aligned continuity seekers should have a page separate from this body-type page. [[User:Leo1452]] 10:31, 23 April 2014 (EDT)
:::Personally I'd tend towards renaming this article to "(subgroup)" since that seems to be the most common way "Seeker" is used. Starscream, Thundercracker and Skywarp don't even share a bodytype in IDW any more, but ISTR they're still referred to as "Seekers". --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 22:41, 23 April 2014 (EDT)

== Seeker (group) ==
So I'm thinking that we really need to rename this page Seeker (group). Given the discussion right above this one, as well as a few others on this page, it's abundantly clear that outside of G1 the Seekers don't necessarily share a body type as the page would suggest. Additionally, the concept of a Seeker body type would not be lost, as the identifying factor of being a member of the Seekers within G1 is their body anyway, so this page innately represents both the group and the body type. This would also legitimize the mention of the SG Seekers since they are the mirror universe equivalent of the usual jets, and more odd groups like the movie and Alligned Seekers.--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] ([[User talk:BlackStarscream|talk]]) 04:20, 31 January 2014 (EST)
:"(subgroup)" might fit more in line with the typical TF terms, but yeah this title might fit better than it currently is. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 08:23, 31 January 2014 (EST)
:: I should note that the parenthetical doesn't have to include every iteration listed on the page. Parentheticals are more about the original usage than the inevitable drift. We *can* massage the page title to be more inclusive, but it is definitely not necessary by wiki law or anything. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 12:46, 31 January 2014 (EST)
::: So I guess years after I brought this up from my old name, a few people finally came around. Back then, these guys kept going in circles saying I was committing fanon and insulting my intelligence. "If it's called a seeker, then it's a goddamn seeker." Yeah, but the term Seeker has different meanings than just the body-type. Won't name names, but this person since wrote for Ask Vector Prime. This kind of attitude practically defines the fanbase nowadays. I was a lot younger when I first got into Transformers forums, but in retrospect, just wow. Scroll up to the topic right above this one and have a read if you're into unproductive, boring bickering. I don't want to be chastised for bringing personal history into this, but my character was attacked multiple times back then just for raising the simplest questions and nobody did anything about it. I think it's reasonable that you allowed me this minute to "clear my name." All I said was that Aligned Seekers aren't all the same body-type, so this page is a misnomer. Not really pushing the envelope there. That's just a fact. If those hogging the page are too stubborn to change it, then that's their prerogative. [[User:Leo1452|JohnStartop]] ([[User talk:Leo1452|JohnStartop]]) 6:46, 23 October 2019 (EST)

== "Red Wing" character model ==

I don't think this should be here. For starters it isn't actually Red Wing, it's one of the models Derik made made for his "squinting at blown up pixelated background characters" Roadblocking Rainmakers articles (which can be found here http://deriksmith.livejournal.com/).
Now I'm not sure if those seekers should be added to this page or not, but the red guy should definitely not be here labeled as Red Wing.[[User:RavenG|RavenG]] ([[User talk:RavenG|talk]]) 22:11, 7 February 2015 (EST)

==Nacelle==
Is NightViper posting something vague on the Allspark somehow not "authorial intent" for assigning Nacelle to be a character he resembles in virtually no way whatsoever, or is the fact that the bio explicitly calls out his "new wings" good enough? This isn't meant to be quite as snarky as it sounds, but I have to admit it's hard not to be snarky about. -[[User:LV|LV]] ([[User talk:LV|talk]]) 13:23, 9 April 2015 (EDT)

== Slaughterhouse ==

Would it be inappropriate for the wiki to note the fan name "Slaughterhouse" for the Onslaught-colored Seeker from "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]"? As someone else wrote on the page for RID #12 "[[City on Fire]]", it's a pretty danged cool name. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 13:37, 17 July 2015 (EDT)

== Kreons ==

Anybody feel up to adding the Kreon Seekers to the toy section, 'cause it's giving me headaches even thinking about it. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 09:53, 13 February 2017 (EST)

== Should we make a new page? ==

There is no page on this wiki for Tetrajets, this is the closest I could find. I was wondering if we should make that a page? I mean, it is a Cybertronian vehicle seen semi-frequently. Even if it has no official name, we could still make a page for it. I just don't want to step out of line if it's not something we want. [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 17:05, 26 April 2019 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Armada (cartoon)

2021-10-28T03:36:53Z

Leo1452: /* Clip Shows */

Like the Energon article, I edited the "production" notes. They were riddled with opinionated bias that did not properly reflect the success or outcome of the overall product line. Lets keep opinions out of this guys. Armada wasn't a financial failure and plenty of fans, especially kids, bought the hell out of it. -Bodycount

May I cut and past Wikipedia's Armada article? X-BoB58

NO DAMN CUT AND PASTING FROM OTHER SOURCES. How many fucking times do you need to be TOLD this? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

You know Wikipedia encourages such out-sourcing, right? you can set it up an article to live-mirror an article on another wiki? (I think it checks for changes every 24 hours or so.) Legally speaking it's aboveboard- content on other wiki's is public domain. (you know, assumign they didn't just C&P from a non-pd source.)

Or is it just a point of policy on this wiki that other wikis may mirror our content, but everything ON HERE originates centrally? -[[User:150.253.70.55|150.253.70.55]] 21:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

The latter, really. Especially since this wiki would be more expansive on just about any subject of TFs than the main Wikipedia. Plus, it does discourage C&Ping from non-public-domain stuff. 
Now, I KNOW that the claim of DW character models was made in an official capacity at some point, but I can't remember WHEN and by WHO. It's been what, four years now? This is driving me up the wall. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

You pretty much nailed it with the second part, [[User:150.253.70.55|150.253.70.55]]. We ''can'' legally use Wikipedia's content... but this isn't Wikipedia, and hopefully, we'd like to have articles on this wiki end up being different from ones you'd find there. Wikipedia, as much as it's wonderful, has a very different perspective on TF things than we do here; and not only does it just reflect better on our part if our content is original, but it actually provides a far more useful resource. If someone wants to look at what Wikipedia says about a given subject, then let them go to Wikipedia.

Although as just a side note, Wikipedia or this Wiki aren't public domain: they're released under GFDL, which basically sums up to "you can do whatever you want with it, so long as you let others do the same, and give credit". It's not quite just semantics, since if we wanted to copy Wikipedia content (WE DON'T), it'd have to be credited as such.--[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 21:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

...and because it means we give up any control on derived work created by someone usign TT1 content. (I wasn't disagreeing w/ the idea that everything originate on this wiki, merely seeking if this was actual policy or a lack of understanding of the possible relationships involved, legally and technicly.) -[[User:150.253.70.55|150.253.70.55]] 22:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

"_____ remains a toyline of controversy still to this day." should be on EVERY fucking toyline page in the wiki. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:16, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Put a better effort on this. ==

Please put better effort on this because you made one beginner do all your work. That beginner is a soldier not an expert.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:216.151.156.27|216.151.156.27]] ([[User talk:216.151.156.27|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/216.151.156.27|contribs]]){{#if:23:20, 20 September 2007| 23:20, 20 September 2007|}}.
:We are not here to work ''for'' you, or for him. We are here to work ''with'' the both of you. Obviously you feel that these episode summaries are an important thing. However, neither of you apparently feel it is worth putting much of your time or effort into researching the episodes and doing it ''right''. So it's not "our" work any more than we're "making" the "beginner" do all the work. It's just that at this wiki we feel it is wasted effort when we have to fix the mistakes of someone who is plainly not expending the effort to put things into the proper format, use complete sentences, or even use more than one sentence in most cases. Better to leave a summary blank than to put out a halfassed article that looks like the dog's breakfast.

:If these summaries are important to you, then show us that ''you're'' not lazy before asking ''us'' to invest more effort or help you out.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Well we can all watch the Armada Episodes on Youtube instead of getting or wasting money on DVDs.([[User:Anti-Spammer|Anti-Spammer]] 20:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC))
:Except that's, you know, '''illegal''' and whatnot.

I made some alterations to paragraph 2 of "Criticisms." Someone with no knowledge of sentence structure had written a 50-word-long run-on sentence that wasn't very clear. I had to break up into separate sentences. Hopefully it looks less like the ramblings of a madman now. [[User:Punchsydeiron|Punchsydeiron]] ([[User talk:Punchsydeiron|talk]]) 20:54, 22 November 2014 (EST)

== Subs? ==
The Micron Legend Sub is rare? Some explanation please? There is no mention nor allusion of "grail-ness" in the article, or did I miss it? IS there an official dub script, or is/are there only fansubs? [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 00:47, 29 January 2010 (EST)
: I'd imagine a sub for Micron Legend would be fairly rare because Armada aired here six months ahead of time. There'd be little demand. Same reasons there aren't really any available subs of Beast Wars or Beast Machines. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:51, 29 January 2010 (EST)
::Do Fansubs count, or are they filed under the "unofficial" blacklist? Would a translation apply? I don't speak Nihon (yet) but I prefer subbed in all capacity; less translation errors (Downshift/Cliffjumper/Wheeljack) and by comparison, english sounds like the grunting of Oxen (in heat). I'm proud to say I've not heard a single line from Superlink in english except for "Check it out, yo!"
::I'd kill for a Japanese version of Beast Wars. [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 00:35, 31 January 2010 (EST)
:::Fansubs would be "unofficial" for obvious reasons. We do occasionally use them, but so far it's been on most of the [[Japanese themes]]. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:20, 31 January 2010 (EST)

==On Mini-Cons in the character list==

I'm pretty sure that several of the characters listed that keep getting removed DON'T actually show up in the cartoon. Wind Sheer and Zapmaster, for example. I mean, Zapmaster in this universe is just Swindle in new colors. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:26, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

==English/Japanese differences==

This [http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLazorBeak YouTube user] has at least the first 18 episodes of "ML", so the better Japanese-literate folks (not me; I handle better on text) can have at it whenever they get the chance. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== Polish dub ==

Where would information about the Polish dub of Armada go? That thing was so ridiculous at times that it NEEDS to be written up SOMEWHERE. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:14, 18 July 2010 (EDT)

=="If just "English", would that be referring to the US, Canada, the UK, or any other major English-speaking country?"==
Yeah, that's the point. The first airdates of English versions of episodes are not limited to one country. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:13, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:Part of my reasoning is that if the episode list have the US airdates, why keep "(English)" in each episode article? Bar the ones that have Canadian or UK airdates. I'm partly baffled as to why not list "(*English-speaking country*)" up in the content box if that's where the episode aired first. If anything, I wouldn't mind doing the "Foreign air date" section like we do for Animated's episodes. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:04, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::Because the main concern of the infobox field is when it aired first, not where (and we distinguish between Japanese and English versions in this case because one is relevant to the reader and one is the original version). That's how I set it up and intended it for. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:12, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::Touché. Although it'll continue to bug me. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:58, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

==Missing characters on character list?==
A number of characters (especially Mini-Cons) listed under various episodes are excluded from the list here:

Backtrack, Blackout, Bonecrusher, Buzzsaw, Comettor, Crosswise, Crumplezone, Drill Bit, Dualor, Dune Runner, Fetch, Firebot, Gunbarrel, Hoist, Iceberg, Incinerator, Inferno, Jolt, Knock Out, Laserbeak, Leader-1, Liftor, Longarm, Nightbeat, Oceanglide, Oval, Rollbar, Rook, Spiral, Stormcloud, Swindle, Terradive, Thunderwing, Waterlog, Wreckage

Although a lot of them only show up once or twice, some--like Laserbeak, Leader-1 or Bonecrusher--were pretty frequent. Is there a reason they aren't included, or should this be corrected? [[Special:Contributions/98.65.165.88|98.65.165.88]] 17:25, 3 January 2011 (EST)
:I think it is supposed to be a list of the main cast for the series, so most of those wouldn't be listed. If it is a main cast list it should really have a note to that effect to prevent people from adding "Random mini-con #418 (only visible from the left knee down)" and such. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:28, 3 January 2011 (EST)

== Japanese Yearbook ==

Where would the [[Legends of the Microns Year Book 2003|Micron Densetsu Year Book 2003]] fit within the franchise suite?

(Also, has it ever been scanned? Is that the one which included character models from the first half of Armada? Or was tht a different book?) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:42, 26 January 2012 (EST)
:Yes to question 2, but more importantly '''has it been scanned'''? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:43, 26 January 2012 (EST)

== Blatant conjecture, but someone may know ==

Given the type and rate of mistakes, is it possible the English dialogue writers were only going from the pictures and maybe base knowledge for at least some episodes? --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 03:32, 3 March 2015 (EST)

== UK air date ==

When did the series first air in the UK

==Armada/Micron Legend differences==
Shouldn't a paragraph or two on the differences between the English and Japanese dubs be put on the main series page? I mean changes that generally aren't on the episode pages; changes like some scenes using different music tracks, character dialogue edited to be slightly more serious (such as Fred), ''Armada'' toning down the violence, character arcs being better fleshed out, certain events and character appearances being set up early before the eventual payoff, and some episodes having character subplots that ''Armada'' either dropped or left incomplete. --[[User:Starzone|Starzone]] ([[User talk:Starzone|talk]]) 09:28, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

== Clip Shows ==

The labelled "clip shows" may recycle some animation, but most of those episodes' runtimes are actually devoted to new plot points vital to understanding later episodes. I think that labelling them as clip shows is misleading. They're more like regular episodes with extensive use of flashbacks. The wiki probably won't agree with me, but if you're thinking of watching Aramada and happen to see my post, do not skip those episodes. --[[User:Leo1452]] ([[User talk:Leo1452|talk]]) 23:35, 27 October 2021 (EDT)

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:''Sam [[Witwicky]] is an [[Autobot]]-allied [[human]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Sam Witwicky.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|If he wears a [[hard hat]], we quit.]]
'''Samuel James "Sam" Witwicky''' (b. [[October 10]], [[1990]] or [[September 13]], [[1991]])<ref>Sam's birthday, according to the [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Timeline.cfm Hasbro.com official timeline] that came out with the first movie, is October 10, 1990. Indeed, the [[:File:Witwickytree.jpg|genealogy chart]] in [[Transformers (film)|the 2007 movie]] indicates Sam was born in 1990. In ''Revenge of the Fallen'', the shot of Sam's driver's license has the date of birth as [[September 13]], 1991. ''[[Transformers: The Junior Novel]]'' has Frenzy note that Sam is 16 due to the information Sam provided in his eBay listing, and so that would seem to suggest a 1991 birth date as well. Take your pick as to which is right.</ref> is a typical adolescent human with an atypical destiny. He quite often ends up in the crossfire in the war between the Autobots and the Decepticons. He can seem to be a coward sometimes, but he has the makings of a true leader.

When he bought a car, it turned out to be [[Bumblebee (Movie)|an alien robot]]. Who knew? Also, his pheromone levels suggest that he wants to mate with [[Mikaela Banes]].

He is also known as '''LadiesMan217'''.

{{quote|You are the ''strangest'' boy I have ever met.|[[Mikaela Banes]]| ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Movies===
====''Transformers'' film====
:''Actor:'' [[Shia LaBeouf]], [[Davide Perino]] (Italian dub), [[Fuminori Komatsu]] (Japanese dub), [[Sérgio Cantú]] (Brazilian dub), [[Víctor Ugarte Fonseca|Víctor Ugarte]] (American Spanish dub), [[Manuel Gimeno]] (Spanish-Spain dub), [[Jimmy Redler]] (French)
[[File:Movie Sam classreport papers.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Is this a genealogy report or an auction?]]

In 10th grade, Sam tried out for the football team. He failed. Trent would take notice of this and taunt him about this sometimes, but Sam would claim that he was researching a book he was writing.

After getting an undeserved A- for his genealogy report, Sam went with his father to buy a car. Though they passed a [[Jazz (G1)|Porsche]] car lot, Ron was actually playing a cruel joke on his son. (Real smart, considering that he'll eventually get [[wikipedia:Power of attorney|power of attorney]] someday.) Going to [[Bobby Bolivia]]'s car lot, they went shopping for a used car. Sam spotted a Camaro that he liked, but Ron, ever the cheap man, refused to go over four thousand dollars. However, when all the windows in the car lot suddenly exploded, Bolivia agreed to four thousand.

[[File:Movie Sam Bumble Lake.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|That Charles Atlas course really works!]]

Sam took his buddy Miles to the lake, where they encountered Mikaela and her boyfriend [[Trent DeMarco|Trent]]. Trent pretty much told them to get lost, but Mikaela then dumped Trent. Realizing he had his one shot, Sam abandoned Miles and offered to give Mikaela a ride home. When his car had some engine trouble, Mikaela looked under the hood and was quite impressed with the layout of the Camaro's engine, though Sam was more impressed with the layout of Mikaela. After giving her a ride home, Mikaela asked Sam if he thought she was shallow. Sam awkwardly replied that he thought there was "more than meets the eye...with you". After berating himself for his lame pickup line, Sam watched Mikaela wave goodbye from her porch and felt that he had made progress, prompting him to say he loved his car.

[[File:Movie2007 Bumblebee firstsighting.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Nope, nothing out of the ordinary here, no sirree.]]

Later that night, his car suddenly left. Believing it was being stolen, Sam followed it to an abandoned junkyard. To his shock and horror, the car was [[Transformer|alive]]. Sam left his last words to his parents and [[Mojo]], in which he acknowledged that he owned the ''Busty Beauties'' issues that were given to him by his uncle [[Charles (Movie)|Charles]], then investigated. Some police came and arrested him, and an overzealous cop, believing him to be a junkie, called him "[[50 Cent]]". Once he returned home, [[Unicron|Satan's]] Camaro arrived, and Sam fled ignominiously on his [[Judy Witwicky|mother's]] pink bike. He hit the cement hard in front of Mikaela and soon found a police car. He demanded the officer's help...at which point said police car turned into [[Barricade (Movie)|an even scarier car]]. After throwing Sam onto a nearby vehicle, the cop car demanded the location of Sam's eBay items, but Sam fled and ran into Mikaela. The Camaro arrived and took them to a power plant, where the two cars fought it out while Sam was chased by [[Frenzy (Movie)|a spastic abomination]] who pantsed him. Mikaela was able to cut off its head, which Sam punted.

[[File:BarricadeVsSam.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"Are you user name ladiesman217?!" "NO!" "Oh. Well, then never mind." "Really?" "No, I'm still gonna kill you."]]

Sam and Mikaela approached the Camaro, who could only speak through his radio and offered them a ride. Mikaela was hesitant, but Sam convinced her to get in. While driving, Sam had shotgun, but Mikaela refused to sit in the driver's seat. Sam suggested that she sit in his lap. Safety first, right? She agreed, then admitted to Sam that it was a smooth move on his part. Mikaela then asked if the robot was so advanced, then why did he turn into a piece of crap Camaro? Insulted, the car forced them out. As Sam lamented how four thousand dollars had driven off, the car returned as a 2009 Camaro. It took the teens to an observatory, where they watched as four meteors entered Earth's atmosphere, during which Mikaela instinctively reached out for Sam's hand. They were then escorted to an abandoned alley, where they met the biggest surprises of them all: Four other cars [[Transformation|transformed]] into robots. The lead robot, after inquiring about Sam's identity, introduced himself as [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Prime (rank)|leader]] of the [[Autobot]]s, autonomous robotic lifeforms from a planet known as [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Prime introduced [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], his first lieutenant; [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], his weapons expert; and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], their medical officer (who claimed that Sam's pheromone level indicated that he wanted to mate with Mikaela, embarrassing both teens); and identified the Camaro as Bumblebee, Sam's appointed guardian. Optimus explained their mission to locate the [[AllSpark]], the betrayal of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] and the [[Decepticon]]s, and how Archibald Witwicky's [[glasses]] played a vital role in finding the AllSpark.

[[File:Movie Sam Mikaela meettheAutobots.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Oh, great, now you get mugged by giant alien robots.]]

Going to his house, Sam frantically searched for the glasses, but the Autobots were somewhat impatient and totally wrecked his dad's backyard. After he found the glasses, government agents arrived. Their leader, [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]], took Sam and Mikaela into custody, separating Sam from his parents. Simmons went bad cop on Sam, threatening him with life imprisonment and revealing Mikaela's criminal record. Just as Simmons demanded answers about aliens, Prime intercepted the convoy, and the Autobots totally outclassed the agents. Sam demanded to know what [[Sector Seven]] was, but a backup team arrived. Prime took Sam and Mikaela to hide under a bridge, but they nearly fell to their deaths. Bumblebee saved them but was captured, and Sam and Mikaela were recaptured.

[[File:Movie Sam Bumblebee capture.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|If you thought this part of the hazing was bad, wait'll you see what they do with the scraplets.]]

They were taken to [[Hoover Dam]], where Simmons tried the awkward role of good cop, but Sam was uninterested in talking. [[Tom Banachek]] tried to bribe him, and Sam demanded the freeing of Bumblebee, his parents, and the expunging of Mikaela's criminal record. Taking them into the dam, Sector Seven showed them [[Megatron (Movie)|N.B.E.-1]], whom Sam recognized as Megatron. He explained Megatron's goals and the purpose of the AllSpark. However, the spastic abomination that had pantsed him sent a message to the Decepticons, who attacked. Sam implored Sector Seven to release Bumblebee, saying he could help, which [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]] expedited by putting a gun to Simmons's chest. Bumblebee converted the AllSpark to a smaller form, and the soldiers, soon augmented by the Autobots, escorted the two teens and Bumblebee to [[Mission City]].

[[File:Movie Megatron Samonroof.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Why, Mr. Witwicky, why, WHY do you persist!?]]

Upon reaching Mission City, an F-22 Raptor was spotted, which Ironhide recognized as [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]. Starscream attacked, damaging Bumblebee's legs, and [[Brawl (Movie)|a tank]] attacked the soldiers. As the Autobots and the soldiers went to deal with the tank, Mikaela arrived with a tow truck to remove Bumblebee from the battle. Megatron soon arrived and killed Jazz, and Lennox ordered Sam to take the AllSpark to a building to be escorted out of the city. Despite Sam's refusal to leave, Bumblebee handed the Cube to him, urging him to go. Sam was pursued by Megatron, Starscream, and [[Blackout (Movie)|a helicopter]], with Ratchet and Ironhide providing protection, but they were injured by Starscream, and Sam was forced to leave without them. During his flight, Sam dropped the AllSpark, causing [[Steering wheel robot|some]] [[Dispensor|nearby]] [[Xbox 360 robot|machines]] to come to life. Reaching the building, Sam ignited a flare, but his ride was destroyed by Starscream.

[[File:Movie Sam defeats Megatron.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|left|Now, light our darkest hour...]]

Cornered on the roof, Megatron demanded the AllSpark in exchange for living to be [[Ravage (G1)|his]] [[Laserbeak (G1)|pet]], but Sam refused. Megatron used his flail to knock Sam off the roof, but Sam was saved by Optimus Prime. Telling Sam to hold onto the cube, Prime tried to scale down the building, but Megatron knocked them all off. Prime managed to shield Sam from any serious injury, however. Prime expressed admiration for Sam's efforts and told him that if he couldn't defeat Megatron, Sam was to merge the Cube with Optimus's [[spark]], destroying both Prime and the AllSpark. Megatron was indeed too powerful for Optimus to defeat alone, and Prime told Sam to push the cube into the Autobot's chest. Instead, Sam merged the AllSpark with Megatron, killing him. Optimus extended his thanks, telling him he owed Sam a debt of gratitude. Bumblebee, who could now speak, requested permission to stay with Sam, to which Sam eagerly agreed. Sam and Mikaela entered into a relationship and made out on Bumblebee's hood while Ironhide and Ratchet observed.

Sam ''really'' loves having a car. {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}}

{{note|Sam Witwicky's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, were also chronicled in the novels “[[Transformers (novel)|Transformers]],” “[[Transformers: The Junior Novel]],” and "[[The Quest for the AllSpark]]"; the "[[Transformers: Movie Adaptation]]” and "[[Movie Trilogy]]" comics; the activity book "[[Look and Find Transformers]]"; and the storybooks “[[Bumblebee Rumble]],” “[[Optimus Prime Versus Megatron]],” “[[Sam's New Car]]," “[[Transformers (interactive Play-a-Sound Storybook)|Transformers Play-a-Sound]],” "[[Meet the Autobots]]," "[[Transformers Mix & Match]]" and "[[Transformers: The Movie Storybook]]."}}

====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
:''Actor:'' [[Shia LaBeouf]], [[Davide Perino]] (Italian dub), [[Fuminori Komatsu]] (Japanese dub), [[Sérgio Cantú]] (Brazilian dub), [[Víctor Ugarte Fonseca|Víctor Ugarte]] (American Spanish dub), [[Jimmy Redler]] (French)

[[File:ROTF Sam Cube fragment.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Damned bedbugs.]]
About two years later, Sam was packing up his stuff and preparing to leave for college with his parents, insisting that he was not going to be with anyone else but [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]], at which point she called to tell him she was breaking up with him. Sam played it cool as he convinced her that they should stay together, having already brought a "long distance relationship kit", and offered to throw in his sweater from the battle two years earlier. A shard of the AllSpark fell out of the sweater and a.) brought numerous kitchen devices to life and b.) imprinted a large collection of ancient Cybertronian knowledge onto his brain. After [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] destroyed the kitchen robots (and parts of the Witwickys' house with them), Sam handed the AllSpark shard to [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]]. In a wrenching heart-to-heart with Bumblebee, he dismissed him from his role as guardian, saying it was time for Bumblebee to rejoin the other Autobots (and Sam wasn't allowed to have a car at college, anyway). Before he departed he and Mikaela argued over the fact that neither would say they loved each other, and Sam claimed it was all part of an elaborate plan to keep her interested.

Arriving at college, Sam met his roommate, [[Leo Spitz]], who operated a [[The Real Effing Deal|conspiracy website]] and was convinced that alien robots were hiding on Earth. Sam, already fretting that his wacky roommate would discover his connection to the Autobots and attempting to throw him off the truth, was mortified when he realised [[Judy Witwicky|Judy]] had unknowingly bought and digested brownies, making her run around the campus and babbling about his private life before [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] took her away.

Going to a frat party on at the same time as his first web chat date with Mikaela, Sam also met his fellow student [[Alice]], who immediately and forcefully attempted to seduce him. When Bumblebee showed up noting they had a problem, Alice invited herself along on a ride with Sam, but Bumblebee did everything he could to convince her to leave. After finally getting rid of her, Bumblebee took Sam to Optimus Prime, who was convinced—for some reason—that Sam was in danger. Even more strangely, Optimus asked Sam to act as a go-between for the Autobots to humanity at large. Sam, wanting to be normal, declined due to his anger that he hadn't even been given one day of normality at college.

[[File:ROTF mental meltdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|What do you mean, this movie is [http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html only orange and teal?]]]
Because no good deed goes unpunished, of course, as Sam shortly thereafter began to see [[Cyberglyphics|strange symbols]] right in the middle of his first astronomy class. He also developed a nasty eye tic and decided to assert in front of his [[Colan|professor]] and about three hundred of his colleagues that Einstein was wrong, that the first four dimensions were unfairly in the spotlight, and what about the other thirteen that nobody ever talks about? He began to write out the symbols in support of this theory on a blackboard in front of his class, until he pulled himself together and was ordered out of the class.

After recovering from this outburst, Sam believed it might have something to do with him touching the AllSpark shard, and he contacted his bitter-for-standing-him-up girlfriend to warn her not to touch the shard. Mikaela promptly boarded a plane to see Sam, but when she arrived, she found him in what appeared to be an intimate moment with Alice, who had come in with Leo as Sam was drawing more Cybertronian symbols all over the walls. Fortunately for Sam's relationship, Alice turned out to be a killer alien robot who tried to strangle him with her tongue. Sam, Mikaela and Leo, who stumbled across Alice's robotic self by accident, tried to escape but were captured by a [[Grindor (ROTF)|Decepticon helicopter]] who took them to an abandoned foundry where [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and a resurrected [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] waited.

[[File:ROTF must have brain.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Hey Doc, don't get all Egyptian-ish and take out my brain through my nose!]]
After Sam's failure at relating to the thirty-foot-tall robot, Megatron ordered a small, glasses-wearing robot called [[Scalpel (ROTF)|The Doctor]] and his [[Scalpel's assistant|assistants]] to remove Sam's brain in order to access the information from the AllSpark shard. Sam pleaded for the chance to talk things through, just as Optimus Prime and Bumblebee arrived and attacked the Decepticons, freeing Sam, Mikaela and Leo. Fleeing with the Autobot leader through a forest, Sam was caught up in Optimus's attempt to fight off Megatron, Starscream and Grindor all by himself. After killing Grindor, Optimus was impaled by Megatron and died, his last words being for Sam to run. Just then, the other Autobots arrived, causing Megatron and Starscream to retreat. Sam was safe, for the moment at least, and upset that he had been responsible to Optimus Prime's death.

In a hijacked TV broadcast, [[The Fallen]] revealed his existence to the global public and demanded Sam to be surrendered to him. Decepticons landed around the globe, killing several thousand people. In Paris, one of them tracked down Sam's parents and captured them, and a manhunt led by the FBI and CIA began for Sam. Sam hid out with Mikaela, Leo, Bumblebee and the Autobot twins, [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] in an old prison, and was frustrated by Leo's panicking. Sam contemplated turning himself in, blaming himself for all the casualties, but Mikaela and Bumblebee knew the Decepticons wouldn't just leave Earth alone if that happened.

Sam then decided they should try and find out what the symbols he had been seeing meant, but neither Bumblebee or the twins could read the ancient dialect, and Leo suggested they ask his rival, "[[Robo-Warrior]]", owner of a [[GiantEffingRobots.com|competing website]], for help. To everyone's surprise, Robo-Warrior turned out to be none other than [[Seymour Simmons]], former agent of [[Sector Seven]], who still held a small grudge against Sam until he mentioned the Cybertronian symbols. Simmons revealed that symbols similar to those Sam was obsessed with had been found on numerous excavation sites around the world, but in order to read them, they might need a Decepticon. Mikaela just happened to be carrying around [[Wheelie (ROTF)|a Decepticon]], who when interrogated suggested they track down one of the [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]], a species of Transformer that had been present on Earth for much of its history.

[[File:ROTF Sam burns hand.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4| AHHH, THE LIGHT—IT BURNS!!!]]
At the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, Sam used the last remaining AllSpark shard to reactivate an old Decepticon named [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], disguised as an SR-71 Blackbird. Jetfire claimed to have defected to the Autobots and upon Sam showing him the symbols and mentioning The Fallen's name, Jetfire opened a [[space bridge]] and teleported the entire group to [[Egypt]], injuring Sam's hand in the process. Jetfire proceeded to tell them about The Fallen, who betrayed his brothers, the [[Dynasty of Primes|Primes]], many millennia ago. The Fallen intended to destroy the Earth's sun in order to create [[energon]], the Transformers' source of energy, and the symbols in Sam's head were a map to the location of the [[Star Harvester]], the weapon intended to use to destroy the sun. Jetfire also revealed that only a Prime could stop The Fallen, and a key was needed to activate the harvester: the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Sam asked Jetfire whether the Matrix would also revive Optimus Prime, to which Jetfire responded that it might be possible, given the unusual radiation that the Matrix generated.

[[File:ROTF Matrix crumbles.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|We came all the way to Kansas for this, and that benefactor didn't tell me my PS3 Controller would just crumble into dust!]]
Setting off with Jetfire's translation of the symbols, "When dawn alights the Dagger's Tip, Three Kings shall reveal the doorway", Sam planned to have Simmons call [[William Lennox|Lennox]] and have him transport Optimus's body to Egypt. After a stopover for the night between the Pyramids of Giza, during which Sam totally failed at declaring his love for Mikaela, he realised that the Three Kings were in fact the star constellations above the Pyramids, which pointed to Jordan. In the Petra mountains, the group discovered the tomb of the Primes, uncovered during a fight between Skids and Mudflap. Inside, Sam found the Matrix, which crumbled to dust when he touched it. Sam collected the dust regardless, and together they traveled back to Egypt.

[[File:ROTF-Mikaela-and-Sam-Running.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Run, Mikaela! Run for the sake of cool perspective shots!]]
Meanwhile, the NEST team parachuted down and prepared for [[Operation: Firestorm|battle]] near the pyramids, having realised the Decepticons were on their way. Before Sam and the others could get back to Lennox and his people, the Decepticons commenced their assault and Starscream attacked, so while the others created a diversion, Sam and Mikaela cut through an Egyptian village. After killing a searching [[Insecticon (Movie)|Insecticon]], they fled from Starscream and [[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]], running straight into a trap the Constructicon [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] had set up using his parents. Sam stalled for time by offering to hand over the Matrix dust, 'til he was rescued by Bumblebee. Sam ordered Bumblebee to get his parents to safety while he and Mikaela continued on.

[[File:Tf2009 mol.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Even Frisbees on Cybertron were co-opted into the [[Great War (disambiguation)|Great War]].]]
Sam and Mikaela almost joined a search group led by [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], but they were attacked and forced to head on by themselves. Arriving at the site of the main battle, they were saved by Lennox, [[Robert Epps|Epps]] and Jetfire, but Sam was mortally wounded by a blast fired by Megatron as he made his way to Optimus's body. While paramedics tried to reanimate him, the Matrix dust was spilled across his hand, and Sam encountered the dead Primes in a vision. The Primes told him that he was destined to find the Matrix and save the life of the last Prime. Sam returned to life, and the dust in his hand reassembled itself into the Matrix. Sam took the opportunity to tell Mikaela that he loved her. With the Matrix, Sam was able to revive Optimus Prime, who ultimately was able to defeat the Fallen.

[[File:ROTF Sam back at school.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Did anyone miss me?]]
With the battle won, the Autobots, NEST, Sam and his friends returned to the USA on board an aircraft carrier, where Sam and Optimus Prime checked out the view from the back. Optimus thanked Sam for saving his life, and Sam in turn thanked him for believing in him. Upon his return, Sam continued to attend college. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

{{note|Sam Witwicky's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, were also chronicled in the novels “[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]],” “[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Junior Novel]]” and “[[The Last Prime]]"; the “[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation]]” and "[[Movie Trilogy]]" comics; and the storybooks "[[Rise of the Decepticons]]," “[[When Robots Attack!]],” "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Electronic Voice Changer]]" and "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Mix & Match]]." In adaptations based on early drafts of the screenplay, Sam became a new vessel for the AllSpark as it transferred its knowledge from the Cube's remains to him. The information was transferred to the [[Matrix of Leadership]], and Sam would never be bothered by symbols again.}}

====''Dark of the Moon'' film====
[[File:DOTMObama Sam.JPG|left|thumb|210px|Picture Perfect Smile.]][[File:DOTMSamDatsuncar.JPG|right|thumb|200px|Having lost his prized Bumblebee toy, Sam resorted to buying knock-offs to fill the void in his heart.]]
:''Actor:'' [[Shia LaBeouf]], [[Davide Perino]] (Italian dub), [[Fuminori Komatsu]] (Japanese dub), [[Víctor Ugarte Fonseca|Ugarte]] (American Spanish dub), [[Sérgio Cantú]] (Brazilian dub), [[Jimmy Redler]] (French)
Sometime after [[Operation: Firestorm]] and following being dumped by Mikaela, Sam was awarded a medal for his heroism by [[Barack Obama]]. While at the White House, he met [[Carly Spencer]]. He later went on to move in with his new girlfriend in [[Washington, D.C.]]. They took in the small Autobots [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and [[Brains]] as "pets" (and [[Bonecrusher (dog)|Mikaela's dog]] for some reason) while Bumblebee also continued to live with Sam, but he would frequently leave to continue his work with [[NEST]], leading Sam to buy a Bumblebee-like car (described by his mother as a 'sad piece of shit') to fill in for his friend.

Receiving a stuffed rabbit from Carly as a good luck charm as he prepared to set out to find a new job, Sam took a moment to complain about the government not allowing him to work with the Autobots, having to borrow money from Carly to pay for things, and the fact that his parents were coming to visit in a week's time. As Carly left for work, Sam reminded the small Autobots of their place and left to begin job-hunting. But his parents had arrived early, and Sam made it clear he had job interviews, and he had to get a ride from them, since his car refused to start. After a series of failed interviews, Sam arrived at a telecommunication company named [[Accuretta Systems]], where his apparently failing attempt to win over [[Bruce Brazos]] succeeded, and he was given a position as a mail carrier. Sam then visited Carly at [[Hotchkiss Gould Investments]] with the news. He then met Carly's boss, [[Dylan Gould]], who seemed all too close to his girlfriend, but Sam denied any jealousy. Before they could go, Dylan revealed that he was on the board for Accuretta Systems and had provided a letter of recommendation for him, to Sam's confusion.

Almost as soon as he started work, Sam found his job to be boring and unfulfilling. Receiving a quick visit from Carly, during which she apparently helped boost Bruce's opinion of Sam, he was dismayed to learn Dylan had loaned her a [[Mercedes-Benz|Mercedes]] SLS AMG.

[[File:DOTM-JerryWangSam.jpg|left|thumb|200px|They warned me about office romances...]][[File:DOTMSam Bee Thatsmycar.JPG|right|thumb|200px|"Sam, did you replace me with a piece of rusting junk?" "Of course not, I replaced you with a collectible automobile."]]

Later, one of Sam's co-workers, [[Jerry Wang]], confronted Sam and held him down in a toilet stall. There Jerry told the freaked-out Sam that the Autobots were in danger and the Decepticons were killing humans. After giving Sam his manifesto, Jerry left and Bruce noticed that the two had been struggling in the stall together, creating some . . . awkward moments afterwards. Sam went through Jerry's notes, which contained information regarding the dark side of the Moon. He was confused as to what it meant and went to Jerry's office to ask some questions, but Jerry acted strangely, pretending it had never happened and demanded he leave. Almost immediately after, Jerry fell out of the window to his death, and Bruce told Sam that he didn't care about what had happened earlier, however a [[Laserbeak (DOTM)|condor-like Decepticon]] suddenly attacked Sam, amd he barely managed to get out of the office.

Sam decided to head to the NEST base with Carly, but the guards refused to let him in and pretended he was in the wrong place. After arguing with the guards, Sam radioed for Bumblebee as they restrained him, and Bumblebee arrived and warned them off. Before they went in, Sam told Bumblebee that he was disappointed that they never saw each other any more. He told [[William Lennox|Lennox]] about Jerry's death and his notes of the Moon. Incidentally, NEST and the Autobots had discovered the crashed Autobot ship the ''[[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]]'', which had been the driving force of the American-Russian space race in the '60s, on the Moon. Not only that, they had recently returned from it with the deactivated [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] and five pillars that helped form a space bridge. National Intelligence Director [[Charlotte Mearing]] was not happy with Sam's presence, and after witnessing Optimus reactivate Sentinel with the [[Matrix of Leadership]], she warned Sam that while she was pleased with the information he had brought, he was nothing but a messenger and that his help wasn't necessary.

Upon arriving back at home with Bumblebee, Sam decided he wasn't going to let the matter go and called [[Seymour Simmons|Simmons]] and his assistant [[Dutch (DOTM)|Dutch]] for help. The group went through piles of information and came to the conclusion that humans were working with the Decepticons and had been doing so since the space race. When Carly got back, she wasn't happy with Sam, reminding him they were going to Dylan's and believed that he wanted to put himself in danger. She asked Sam to let the situation go, but he refused, and she left. After tracking down a pair of Russian cosmonauts, the group learned that there were once hundreds of pillars, but the Decepticons had stolen them before anyone had reached the ''Ark''. Realising that the Decepticons had left behind Sentinel, the only one who could control the pillars, so that the Autobots could revive him, Sam called Mearing to warn her.

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Aided by Bumblebee, [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] and [[Mirage (Movie)|Dino]], they began escorting Sentinel back to the NEST base. En route, they were attacked by the [[Dread (DOTM)|Dreads]], and during the ensuing chase, Bumblebee was forced transform over a crashing truck, tossing Sam out above him and catching again as he reverted to vehicle mode. But when they arrived back at base, Sentinel revealed that he had made a deal with Megatron to restore Cybertron, then killed [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], wrecked the NEST base and stole his pillars before leaving.

Sam rushed back home to find Carly before remembering she was at Dylan's. He went to his parents to tell them about their argument, and after an embarrassing conversation in which Judy and Ron expressed their opinions of Sam's love life, he realized how much he loved Carly and warned his parents to leave the city. Arriving at Dylan's mansion, he convinced Carly to allow them the chance to talk by being rude to Dylan. However Dylan revealed that his father was once one of the Decepticons' allies. Sam and Carly tried to flee in the loaned Mercedes, only for it to reveal itself as [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], who held Carly hostage. Dylan demanded that Sam find out the Autobots' plan to fight back against the hundreds of the Decepticons brought to Earth by the space bridge, forcing him to wear a [[Watch-bot]] so that he couldn't warn them. Before he left, Sam promised that he would kill Dylan for threatening Carly. He was taken to Mearing by NEST agents, and after she apologized for not believing him, learned that Sentinel had forced the government into exiling the Autobots. Sam was taken to the Autobots' ship, the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]'', where a group of Autobots called the [[Wrecker]]s were preparing the ship for launch. Sam pleaded for Optimus to ignore the government's demand for exile and asked what their plan was, but Optimus said they had none. After he and Bumblebee bade him farewell, Sam watched as the ''Xantium'' took off and called Dylan to let him know they were gone, only to learn that the Decepticons had never intended to let the Autobots leave. Sam could only watch as the ship was then destroyed.

He decided that he would find Dylan and save Carly, and with Simmons and Dutch's help he tracked Dylan's location to [[Chicago]]. [[Robert Epps|Epps]] decided to help Sam and gathered a group of soldiers to accompany them. But en route, the Decepticons invaded Chicago, and the group arrived on the devastated city outskirts. While the soldiers were reluctant to go in, Sam was determined, even though Epps tried to convince him they didn't stand a chance. They were then attacked by a Decepticon [[Orbital Assault Carrier|fighter]], which was brought down by Optimus Prime and the Wreckers. As the rest of the Autobots arrived, they revealed that they had known the Decepticons would never let them go or leave Earth alone and so had hid in a booster rocket that disengaged before the ship was destroyed. With Bumblebee piloting the fighter, Sam infiltrated Dylan's building but was again attacked by Laserbeak, who dropped him over the side. Luckily, Bumblebee caught him, and after Carly jumped onto the fighter, Sam held Laserbeak in place as Bumblebee blasted the 'Con's head off. Once the fighter crash-landed, they awaited the arrival of the rest of the Autobots. After Carly explained the Decepticons' scheme to bring Cybertron into Earth's solar system to NEST via a downed UAV drone optic, Epps came up with a plan to destroy the control pillar with a rocket shot from a high building. Before Sam and the other humans left, [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]] handed out grappling hooks and boomsticks.

[[File:DOTMGrappleglove.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|I love the Power Glove. It's so bad.]]

Sam and the others made it into [[Galileo Building|a tall building]], but before the rocket could be launched, Decepticon fighters began firing at the skyscraper, causing it to tilt, and a Decepticon protoform came in looking for them. Escaping by jumping out of the window and sliding down to a lower floor, the group's presence was discovered by [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]], who sent his [[Driller]] to finish the building. After their tower slammed into another, Sam and the others escaped while Optimus arrived and killed the Driller. They began rushing toward the building with the pillars, which had started to activate, but Sam and Carly were separated from Epps and his men. They were found by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], who relished the opportunity to be alone with Sam and started toying around with him. Sam fired the grappling hook into one of Starscream's eyes, and as Starscream thrashed in panic, Sam was flung around and eventually crashed through a window. While he had the opportunity, he armed one of the boomsticks Que had given him, hoping that it had 'better work.' Taking advantage of the arrival of Lennox's team, Sam jumped onto Starscream's head and lodged the armed boomstick into his other eye. He was again flung around while Lennox tried to free him. Starscream flew to the top of a building, and as his head exploded, Bumblebee arrived to catch the falling pair.

They met up with Epps's team and large force of soldiers, but Sam and Carly snuck across the river to find Bumblebee, Dino, Sideswipe, Que and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] captured by Soundwave's forces. As the 'Cons began executing their prisoners, starting with Que, Sam desperately tried to prepare another boomstick to save Bumblebee when his turn came, but it malfunctioned, forcing Sam to watch in horror and despair as his friend was about to be executed before his eyes. Luckily, Bumblebee was saved when Wheelie and Brains took control of a Decepticon ship and caused a distraction that allowed Bumblebee to kill Soundwave. Sam and Carly ended up in the middle of the battlefield, and Sam called to Optimus to warn him about the pillars, and Optimus managed to stall the process by firing at the control pillar. Sam insisted on helping and assured Carly she would be all right, then began rushing to the pillar, which Dylan was trying to reactivate. Sam tried to stop him but failed, and Dylan kicked him off the collapsed structure. Sam refused to give up, however. When Dylan said Sam wasn't a hero, Sam agreed, stating he was just the messenger...then knocked Dylan into the active pillar, killing him. Bumblebee and Ratchet arrived and destroyed the pillar, causing the partially formed Cybertron to collapse in on itself.

After Optimus had killed Sentinel Prime and Megatron, Sam arrived with the others and hugged Carly in relief. Sam apologized for putting himself in danger and said she was all he needed and he would do anything to make it up to her. She forgave him, and Bumblebee took the opportunity to pass out rings, though Sam interpreted this as needing to "slow way down". Sam then joined the Autobots and soldiers as they stood as heroes for rescuing the world from utter destruction -- perhaps finally with due credit. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

{{note|Sam Witwicky's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, were also chronicled in the novels “[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|Transformers: Dark of the Moon]]” and “[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon: The Junior Novel]]”; the “[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation]]” and "[[Movie Trilogy]]" comics; and the storybooks “[[Autobots Versus Decepticons]],” "[[The Lost Autobot]]," "[[Optimus Prime's Friends and Foes]]," "[[Dark of the Moon: Action Pop-ups!]]" and “[[Bumblebee's Best Friend]].”}}
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====''The Last Knight'' film====
Sam's profile picture for his ebay account ladiesman217 can be seen with the Witwiccan family tree unearthed by [[Edmund Burton | Sir Edmund Burton]] along with [[Archibald Witwicky]], revealing that both are descendants of the Medieval wizard [[Merlin]]. Since [[Viviane Wembly]] is confirmed by Edmund as the last descendant of the Witwiccans, Sam is dead by implication, presumably before the events of [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film) | Transformers: Age of Extinction]] as he was absent from the film.

===IDW movie comics===
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At age twelve, [[Ron Witwicky|Sam's father]] presented him with the heirlooms of his ancestor [[Archibald Witwicky]]. At first, thinking they would be priceless artifacts or treasure, Sam was not impressed with what he described as "junk" and made googly eyes with the arctic explorer's glasses. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 3|Movie Prequel #3}}

Years later, Sam discovered the concept of riding around in cars to cruise for chicks. His best friend [[Miles Lancaster|Miles]] suggested an [[eBay|online auction]], but also convinced him to hold off on it until he was actually old enough to drive, as perhaps by then somebody would be interested in his family's heirlooms. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 4|Movie Prequel #4}}

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Shortly after the battle of Mission City, Sam and Mikaela were watching Ratchet reattach Bumblebee's legs when [[Dispensor|the transformed Mountain Dew machine]] suddenly attacked Sam. Fortunately, Ratchet crushed the creature before it could cause further havoc. Examining the liquid from its remains, Ratchet warned his human friends about the dangers in weight gain and tooth decay that the substance could cause to them. Amused, Sam and Mikaela promised to be careful. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1|Alliance #1}}

A few months later, after the Autobots and the [[United States military]] had agreed to operation under a formal military alliance as [[NEST]], Major Lennox became concerned over an ominous warning he had received from [[Swindle (Movie)|a Decepticon]] they had just destroyed. The Decepticons were looking for "it", and both Lennox and Optimus Prime feared they could be after Sam again. Though Lennox refused Prime's suggestion of placing Sam in protective custody at their base on [[Diego Garcia]], believing it was too much for the boy to handle, they agreed that somebody needed to keep an eye on Sam, and so Bumblebee once again assumed the role of his protector. {{storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}

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Sam was delighted to see Bumblebee return, but the delight stopped when Bumblebee "helped" to get a cat out of a tree by shaking the tree until it got off. After learning that Bumblebee had returned to watch over him, Sam used the Autobot as his ride to the movies for a double date between him and Mikaela, and Miles with Mikaela's friend [[Lindsey]]. Once there, he saw Trent's truck and hoped not to run into him. The night went without a hitch, and Sam was happy that Bumblebee behaved himself in front of Trent, but Bumblebee explained that he got back at Trent by flipping over his car, which displeased Sam. As the days went by, Bumblebee's attempt to integrate himself into Sam's life didn't go as smoothly as he had hoped. Without the team structure of the Autobots, Bumblebee grew more reckless and impulsive, from smashing a would-be car thief with the door he was attempting to unlock, to inadvertently earning Sam traffic tickets for running red lights. Eventually, Sam discussed his upcoming college plans with Bumblebee, explaining that the yellow guy might not be able to accompany him at school. He then had to persuade his parents to let Bumblebee stay in the garage while he was at school, but Ron strenuously said no, stating that 'Bee could stay for the summer, but once Sam left for school, the Autobot had to leave too. Frustrated, Sam walked to Mikaela's to cool off, but twenty minutes later, he was captured by Barricade, who chained him up and hung him from a hook over a junkyard car crusher. The Decepticon demanded that Sam tell him the locations of Bumblebee and the AllSpark, but Sam had no idea about either. As Barricade prepared to drop the young human into the crusher, Bumblebee arrived just in time, and Sam safely fell onto a pile of tires while Barricade taunted Bumblebee about how Earth had made the Autobot soft and how their last encounter was just luck. Barricade easily swatted Bumblebee aside and went after Sam, but 'Bee managed to pull himself out of the scrap and assaulted Barricade once more. Barricade had the upper hand, so Sam helped by operating a crane. However, he had trouble controlling the vehicle, and Barricade snapped the chain-hook off and tossed the crane aside before charging at the crane's occupant again. Bumblebee then used the abandoned chain-hook to knock Barricade into a pool of gasoline. He sent Sam off to a safer distance and fired his cannon at the gasoline-soaked Decepticon menace, causing a massive explosion. Bumblebee survived the explosion, and Sam was happy to see him okay. He then asked what had happened to Barricade, and Bumblebee responded that they probably hadn't seen the last of the Decepticon. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 1|Tales of the Fallen #1}}

Sam and Mikaela later broke up, making him somewhat "testy". {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} He was also invited to dinner at the [[White House]], having saved the world twice, where he met [[Carly Spencer]]. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

While hanging out together on the open road, Sam and Bumblebee came under attack from Starscream. Bumblebee ejected Sam out of his car mode as he transformed to keep him out of harm's way while duking it out with the Decepticon. Starscream wound up landing in a river, and Sam used a downed power line to electrocute the water, damaging Starscream and forcing him to retreat. {{storylink|Transformers: Bumblebee}}

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Sam was enjoying a picnic with Arcee and Bumblebee when they detected an energy signature emanating from a nearby cave. Investigating, the trio was ambushed by [[Space Case (DOTM)|Space Case]]. As the two Autobots faced off against the Decepticon, Sam warned Bumblebee to not use his missiles, as they might bring the whole cave down on their heads. This only served to give Space Case an idea though, and the Decepticon brought down the cave's ceiling on Sam, Bumblebee and Arcee. Bumblebee shielded Sam from bodily harm, but Space Case got away. {{storylink|Transformers: Space Case}} Buried under rubble, Bumblebee was strained to hold up a boulder from smashing down onto Sam as their oxygen slowly began to run out. Sam talked to Bumblebee to keep himself optimistic about their situation, but Bumblebee couldn't even respond, as the rocks were cutting him off from Earth's radio transmissions. Digging deep for inner strength, Bumblebee managed to muscle them out of their prison as Sam was beginning to choke for lack of fresh air. Outside, they found Ratchet, who had already rescued Arcee, and had been digging for them from the outside of the cave-in. Sam thanked Bumblebee for always being his friend when he needed him to be. {{storylink|Transformers: Bumblebee}}

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Sam was returning from a fast food restaurant in [[Philadelphia]] when he found Bumblebee menacing a small robot calling itself "[[Brains]]". {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 1|Rising Storm #1}} He and Bumblebee brought the renegade Decepticon brain unit to Sam's college, where they met [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]], who realized Brains was a scrap drone like him. Sam asked Brains why he was in Philadelphia, and the little 'bot responded that he was running for his life from a Decepticon trying to kill him. [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] then smashed through the wall and attempted to reclaim Brains. Sam contacted NEST, and [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] and [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] arrived to help. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} As the place quickly became a battlefield and Sam was about to be killed by [[Space Case (DOTM)|Space Case]], Carly appeared and saved him by using a weapon attached to one of the fallen Transformers around her to fend off the Decepticon. Both of them were saved from subsequent danger by the arrival of the rest of the Autobots. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} Later, he and Carly began a relationship and moved to Washington, D.C. along Brains and Wheelie. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 4|Rising Storm #4}}
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====''Transformers: Beginnings''====
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When Sam was presented with Archibald Witwicky's personal effects, at first he was excited at the prospect of becoming rich, but was less than impressed with the "junk" in the box and made flippant remarks about Archibald's eventual fate. This reaction mildly annoyed his father. {{Storylink|Transformers: Beginnings (Movie)|Transformers: Beginnings}}

{{note|Transformers: Beginnings is a condensed, flash-animated retelling of the [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] ''[[Transformers: Movie Prequel]]'' that is detailed above this section.}}

===Titan Magazines movie comics===
Young Sam grew up with [[Ron Witwicky|his dad's]] ''extreme'' [[Christmas]] cheer, to the extent he still kept the [[Santa Claus|Santa]] myth going when Sam was an adult. Sam had stopped believing in Santa years before when his dad, in full costume, entered his room and fell on him ("I thought Santa Claus was trying to suffocate me!"). {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.19|The Nightmare Bee-4 Christmas}}

Sam's parents took him to college, and ''God'', did he regret that when his mother kept holding his hand. He was slightly surprised when Bumblebee drove off without warning. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

[[File:Titan6 Samabducted.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Is that Sam or Adam Sandler?]]

Weeks later, he was en route to meet Mikaela when he was accosted by [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]. Annoyed, he pointed out he'd done his part and just wanted to be left alone, but the twins pushed him into taking a ride in Skids. They explained they'd been framed for a crime they didn't commit, they had vital intelligence of a secret Decepticon army, and they wanted Sam to inform Optimus because Prime trusted him. Sam, being a smart kid, didn't think much of wild stories by two strangers who'd abducted him and said he'd ''think'' about it. When Bumblebee turned up and the twins accelerated, he stopped thinking and starting banging on Skids window in a desire to GTFO.

Luckily, Skids spat him out. Unluckily, he then saw Bumblebee get gunned down by [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], who'd come to recruit the twins. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

For [[Christmas]] 2010, Sam let Bumblebee observe the Witwicky festivities (and worried the Autobot would start copying his dad's traditions). That was handy because the undead [[Dead End (ROTF)|Dead End]] came for him! When Bumblebee intervened, Sam just about managed to keep the battle from waking his parents. On Christmas Day, he handed Bumblebee some spare parts as a present and was given some snazzy decals.{{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.19|The Nightmare Bee-4 Christmas}}
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====Alternate timeline====
Sam held the key to Earth's survival, and his attempt to destroy Megatron with the AllSpark... failed. Sam was killed, and Mikaela and Bumblebee mourn him still. Bumblebee wondered if there was another reality where Sam's attempt succeeded and the Decepticons didn't conquer the United States. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}}

Mikaela would later note that ever since Sam had died, Bumblebee had been there for him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution, Part 1}}

===''Mini Mayhem!''===
Sam asked [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] whether either of them ever thought of defeating [[The Fallen]] with water, him always being on fire and all. The two Autobots were stumped over how they had never considered doing so. {{storylink|Mini Mayhem!}}

===Transformers Annual 2011===
Just as Sam was getting bored with doing his homework, he was attacked by Starscream. He dashed out towards the garage, but Bumblebee, already alerted, proved no match for the Decepticon. Starscream was about to make off with Sam, when Optimus arrived and quickly sent Starscream packing. Sam surveyed the effect that the battle had had on his dad's garden and reflected that he was in for trouble when his dad got back. {{storylink|Sam in Danger}}

===''Hunt for the Decepticons'' storybooks===
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Sam was working in his University's science lab while Bumblebee was away on a mission. There, a [[New lab assistant|new lab assistant]], who in truth was a Decepticon spy, used Sam's computer to send a false distress signal to Optimus Prime. Sam found out about the phony message later that same night, and rushed to the science lab, where he found Optimus being beaten by Megatron. Sam and Optimus worked together to pin Megatron to a supermagnet, and then the two of them made their escape back to Autobot headquarters. {{storylink|Prime Target (book)|Prime Target}}

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Sam was enjoying a drive in the city with his friends Bumblebee, Wheelie and Mikaela when the group came under attack from Starscream! Bumblebee and Wheelie began to argue on how to defeat the Decepticon, forcing Sam and Mikaela to run for their lives as Starscream came gunning for them. Thankfully, Optimus showed up and knocked Starscream out with one punch. Optimus then chastised the other two Autobots for allowing their feelings get in the way of their mission to protect the humans. But Wheelie and Bumblebee were too stubborn to apologize to one another, and continued fuming despite Sam and Mikaela's attempt at having them reconcile. Optimus suggested the two teenagers allow Bumblebee and Wheelie some time to simmer down. But then Starscream regained consciousness and resumed his attack. Optimus took over protecting Sam and Mikaela and ordered his subordinates to take care of Starscream together. They did so, and Sam looked on with pride as Wheelie and Bumblebee later thanked one another for their part in defeating the Decepticon. {{storylink|Buddy Brawl}}

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Sam witnessed the Decepticons [[Buzzsaw (ROTF)|Buzzsaw]] and [[Ratbat (ROTF)|Ratbat]] tear up a human city, while Soundwave declared that the Autobots had abandoned the humans. Refusing to believe the Decepticon's lies, Sam and Bumblebee set out to find Optimus Prime and the rest of the Autobots. It turned out that the Autobots had been tricked by Soundwave to go to the wrong location when they rolled out to engage the Decepticons. Sam and Bumblebee led Optimus and his troops to the scene of the conflict, where Optimus quickly dispatched the Decepticons. Afterwards, Optimus thanked for Sam's part in the day's events, while Bumblebee and the rest of the Autobots cheered. {{storylink|Satellite Meltdown}}
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===''Kre-O'' comic===
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===Ask Vector Prime===
In [[Tyran 609.23-PX Kappa]], Sam Witwicky found clues which [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] planted to draw the Autobots to the Moon. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/22}}

When asked about the fate of Sam following the rise of [[Cemetery Wind]] and the subsequent crackdown on Autobots and their human allies, a version of Bumblebee in [[Axiom Nexus]] became upset and declined to comment. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Bee's Backtalk, 2015/10/09}}

==Games==
===''Transformers'' - The Game===
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====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC/Wii/PS2====
=====Autobot campaign=====
Bumblebee was listening in on the Witwicky family's conversations and discovered Sam's father had promised to buy him a car the next day. When Sam arrived at the used car lot, he felt as though the Camaro was calling to him and convinced his father to buy it. Later, Sam and Mikaela were leaving school when they were attacked by Barricade. Sam was surprised when his car arrived and turned into a robot, and he and Mikaela fled at Bumblebee's prompting. Once Barricade was defeated, Sam thanked Bumblebee for saving him, then witnessed four other Autobots, led by Optimus Prime, arrive in Tranquility. Sam nervously introduced himself, and Optimus said they needed his help. Sam was surprised to learn his great-grandfather's glasses contained the location to the Allspark, and he went to go retrieve them with Mikaela, only for them and Bumblebee to be captured by Sector 7.

Bumblebee's interference at the Sector 7 base inside Hoover Dam also allowed the two humans to be set free, and they escaped the dam with the Allspark as Megatron began unfreezing. Reaching Mission City, Sam and Mikaela were forced to flee as Barricade returned. Once Bumblebee finally finished the Decepticon, Sam noted how insane the situation was. At that moment, Megatron arrived, and Sam and Mikaela fled once again. Megatron discovered them hiding in a building, but Optimus arrived and apparently killed Megatron. As Sam prepared to hand the Allspark over to Optimus, Megatron charged, and a shocked Sam dropped the Allspark, which Optimus used to end the Decepticon leader's life.
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=====Decepticon campaign=====
Sam and Mikaela were innocently walking down the street when Barricade arrived and attacked. Luckily, Bumblebee came to the rescue, and the two humans got in and drove off. However, Bumblebee was soon defeated by Barricade, who told Sam to give him the glasses. Sam tossed the glasses away, but Barricade got them. Once Barricade left, Sam and Mikaela were surrounded by Sector 7 vehicles.

Later, during the Battle of Mission City, Scorponok threatened Sam, who was prepared to hand over the Allspark, but Ironhide arrived and told them to flee. However, after Ironhide and Jazz were killed in the battle, he and Mikaela went to report this to Optimus. Sam then witnessed the battle between Optimus and Megatron, the latter of whom tracked Sam all across the city until Optimus was killed. Sam dropped the Allspark as he looked solemnly at Optimus's remains, and Megatron used the Allspark to achieve ultimate power. What happened to him after the Decepticons won the battle is unknown. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)}}

====''Transformers: The Game'' (PSP)====
{{voiceactor|[[Shia LaBeouf]] (English)}}
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====Transformers Autobots====
Bumblebee was sent to retrieve the glasses that Sam had, but Barricade got there first and got the information. What he did to Sam is unknown. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers Autobots}}

====Transformers Decepticons====
Barricade went to retrieve the glasses that Sam had, but Bumblebee got there first and got the information.
{{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers Decepticons}}

===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
{{voiceactor|[[Shia LaBeouf]] (English)}}

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====
The Autobots did their best to keep Sam out of the increasingly intense war with the Decepticons, reassigning Bumblebee to rejoin Optimus Prime's unit. Unfortunately, the Decepticons led by Grindor kidnapped him, intent on extracting information from his brain (no doubt in a most unpleasant and final manner). Fortunately for Sam, a force of Autobots arrived to rescue him. Sam managed to warn them of Grindor's presence before being escorted to safety.

Following this, Sam was escorted by the Autobots to an unassuming deli, where former Sector Seven agent Simmons now worked. From there, he led the Autobots to the conveniently close-by museum, where he managed to awaken the ancient Transformer Jetfire while the Autobots held off a Decepticon assault outside. Jetfire teleported them to Egypt, where Sam explored a mysterious tomb while Optimus Prime personally battled Megatron and Starscream. Despite Jetfire's death in battle, the Autobots managed to drive off the Decepticons. During the final battle against the Fallen, Sam's only contribution was to beg Optimus not to lose.

He tended to start babbling when panicked, and there were times when the Autobots must have surely wanted him to shut up. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

=====Decepticon campaign=====
At first, the human germ was of no further interest to Starscream and his Decepticon forces. However, upon discovering his fellow human Mikaela possessed an Allspark shard, the Decepticons first kidnapped her to seize the shard and then visited his college town. After they tore their way through a unit of Autobots sent to stop them, Starscream managed to capture the boy, despite his protests.

Seeing as how he and Mikaela weren't heard from after that, it...er...didn't look too good for them. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

====Wii/PS2====
{{voiceactor|[[Shia LaBeouf]] (English)}}
After [[The Fallen]]'s defeat, [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]] and Sam were heard talking to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Wii/PS2)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' mobile game===
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==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
{{anchor|First Encounter}}
[[File:Movie ScreenBattles SamMikaelaFrenzy.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Yes, run toward the crazy robot.]]
*'''First Encounter''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SB-01'''

: This Screen Battles pack features a largely unchanged Deluxe class [[Barricade (Movie)/toys#First Encounter|Barricade]] figure, but the Frenzy accessory has been cast in black plastic to better blend in with Barricade's chest. The pack also comes with unposable figurines of Sam Witwicky in a running pose, Frenzy menacing Sam, and [[Mikaela Banes#First Encounter|Mikaela Banes]] holding the power saw she uses to attack [[Frenzy (Movie)#First Encounter|Frenzy]]. The set is packaged in a special window box with a diorama depicting the battle between Barricade and Bumblebee.

: Originally, Sam was supposed to come with a bike that was likely dropped for budget reasons.<ref name="checklist">[http://web.archive.org/web/20080920112933/http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=Collectors/Checklist Hasbro checklist]</ref>

::*''[http://tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/ScreenBattlesBarricade/barricade.htm More information on Screen Battles Sam (with Barricade) at TFU.info]''
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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Human Alliance====
[[File:ROTF HumanAlliance Sam&Bumblebee.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Sculpted [[Dull surprise|DULL SURPRISE]]!]]
*'''Bumblebee''' / '''Sam Witwicky''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-21'''

:The first human partner in the Human Alliance subset of the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline]], Sam is an articulated 2.5-inch-tall action figure designed to work with the larger-scale, all-new [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Human Alliance|Bumblebee figure]] and other Human Alliance-scale Transformers. He can sit inside Bumblebee's vehicle interior, ride in special seats mounted on Bumblebee's arms, or stand on his shoulder behind his head, with each location having a different weapon for Sam or any other Human Alliance human character figure to use. He's a bit out of [[scale]] with the Bumblebee and the other Human Alliance figures, being slightly undersized.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2009/Autobot/SamWitwicky/samwitwicky.htm More information on ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Sam at TFU.info]''
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===Transformers (2010)===
====Human Alliance====
[[File:TF2010HASamWitwicky.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|PUDDING]]
*'''Bumblebee''' / '''Sam Witwicky''' (2010)

:Sam in this release is an all-new mold that matches his appearance during the final battle in Egypt during ''Revenge of the Fallen''. His proportions are... unfortunate. He comes with a slight [[redeco]] of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Human Alliance 2|Bumblebee]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/HASamWitwicky/samwitwicky.htm More information on 2010 Sam at TFU.info]''
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===Dark of the Moon===
====Human Alliance====
[[File:DOTM HumanAlliance Bumblebee Sam.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|thumb|"Okay, you're still half yellow. We clearly need to go over this whole 'stealth' thing again..."]]
*'''Bumblebee''' / '''Sam Witwicky''' (Human Alliance, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:''

:''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' Human Alliance Sam is virtually identical to the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' figure and is included with a primarily black "stealth" redeco of Human Alliance [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Human Alliance 3|Bumblebee]].
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{{anchor|Daredevil}}
[[File:DOTM AutobotDaredevilSquad toys.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|thumb|[[wikipedia:The Man Without Fear|The Man (and Bots) Without Fear]].]]
*'''Autobot Daredevil Squad''' (Multi-pack, 2011)
:An altered version of the original figure, for once. His shirt was [[repaint]]ed to resemble a protective vest. He comes with redecos of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Daredevil|Bumblebee]] and [[Backfire (TF 2010)#Daredevil|Backfire]], and an Autobot Alliance patch.

:This set was exclusively available at Kmart stores in the USA and at Canadian Tire stores in Canada.
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==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
[[File:RobotHeroes BattlefortheAllspark.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|So it doesn't strike anyone as odd that he's running towards [[Brawl (Movie)|another crazy robot]], or that he's the same size as his car, or that his car is melting?]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (multi-pack, 2009)

: The first human ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' figure, Sam is a small [[super deformed]] figure sculpted running with the [[AllSpark]] cube while grinning stupidly. He is only available in a multi-pack with [[Megatron (Movie)/toys|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Movie)/toys|Starscream]], [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]], [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Bumblebee]].

:There is a small quality control issue regarding to Sam's tampographed eyes: Although he is entirely crossed-eyed on most samples, some units had his eyes (slightly) aligned. His stock photo is also missing white paint on his mouth.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RHSamWitwicky/samwitwicky.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' Sam at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
* According to Roberto Orci, Sam was not given the nickname "[[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]]", nor [[Ron Witwicky|his father]] the nickname "[[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]]"  because, unlike their Generation 1 counterparts, the movie characters are not [[oil rig]] workers or mechanics. Earlier drafts of the script did have Sam earning the nickname "Spike" another way, but this was dropped before the script was finalized.<ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=350123&postcount=4134 Roberto Orci on Paramount's official ''Transformers'' movie forum] explaining why the names Spike and Sparkplug weren't used in the movie.</ref> Regardless, in the Latin American dub of ''Transformers'', Sam appears credited under the name of Sam "Spike" Witwicky.
* Sam's [[eBay]] user name, "LadiesMan217", is a reference to movie director [[Michael Bay]]'s birthday, [[February 17]]. [http://myworld.ebay.com/ladiesman217/ ladiesman217] is a registered user on eBay.
* In the Japanese dub of the film, Sam's eBay username is changed from "LadiesMan217" to "[[Playboy|playboy217]]", since "ladies' man" isn't a term the Japanese are familiar with. To better suit this joke in the Spanish version, his username is "[[wikipedia:Don Juan|DonJuan217]]", named after the famed Spanish womanizer. In the IDW [[Transformers: Movie Adaptation|comics adaptation]], his [[eBay|ePay]] username is "hotstud217". This is even more disturbing.
* According to screenwriter [[Roberto Orci]], he and writing partner [[Alex Kurtzman]] pitched the character of Sam as "Marty McFly on crack".<ref>[http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showpost.php?p=1119191&postcount=1921 Roberto Orci on Don Murphy's forum] responding to criticisms of the human characters.</ref>
*According to [[Edmund Burton|Edmund]], [[Viviane Wembly]] is the last of the line of “Witwiccans.” And then the Witwiccian family tree is shown to the audience, ending with Sam Witwicky himself. If Edmund is right, it doesn't look good for poor Sam.....

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Sam Witwicky''' (サム・ウィトウィッキー ''Samu Witowikkī'')

==References==
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Sam Witwicky

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:''Sam [[Witwicky]] is an [[Autobot]]-allied [[human]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Sam Witwicky.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|If he wears a [[hard hat]], we quit.]]
'''Samuel James "Sam" Witwicky''' (b. [[October 10]], [[1990]] or [[September 13]], [[1991]])<ref>Sam's birthday, according to the [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Timeline.cfm Hasbro.com official timeline] that came out with the first movie, is October 10, 1990. Indeed, the [[:File:Witwickytree.jpg|genealogy chart]] in [[Transformers (film)|the 2007 movie]] indicates Sam was born in 1990. In ''Revenge of the Fallen'', the shot of Sam's driver's license has the date of birth as [[September 13]], 1991. ''[[Transformers: The Junior Novel]]'' has Frenzy note that Sam is 16 due to the information Sam provided in his eBay listing, and so that would seem to suggest a 1991 birth date as well. Take your pick as to which is right.</ref> is a typical adolescent human with an atypical destiny. He quite often ends up in the crossfire in the war between the Autobots and the Decepticons. He can seem to be a coward sometimes, but he has the makings of a true leader.

When he bought a car, it turned out to be [[Bumblebee (Movie)|an alien robot]]. Who knew? Also, his pheromone levels suggest that he wants to mate with [[Mikaela Banes]].

He is also known as '''LadiesMan217'''.

{{quote|You are the ''strangest'' boy I have ever met.|[[Mikaela Banes]]| ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Movies===
====''Transformers'' film====
:''Actor:'' [[Shia LaBeouf]], [[Davide Perino]] (Italian dub), [[Fuminori Komatsu]] (Japanese dub), [[Sérgio Cantú]] (Brazilian dub), [[Víctor Ugarte Fonseca|Víctor Ugarte]] (American Spanish dub), [[Manuel Gimeno]] (Spanish-Spain dub), [[Jimmy Redler]] (French)
[[File:Movie Sam classreport papers.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Is this a genealogy report or an auction?]]

In 10th grade, Sam tried out for the football team. He failed. Trent would take notice of this and taunt him about this sometimes, but Sam would claim that he was researching a book he was writing.

After getting an undeserved A- for his genealogy report, Sam went with his father to buy a car. Though they passed a [[Jazz (G1)|Porsche]] car lot, Ron was actually playing a cruel joke on his son. (Real smart, considering that he'll eventually get [[wikipedia:Power of attorney|power of attorney]] someday.) Going to [[Bobby Bolivia]]'s car lot, they went shopping for a used car. Sam spotted a Camaro that he liked, but Ron, ever the cheap man, refused to go over four thousand dollars. However, when all the windows in the car lot suddenly exploded, Bolivia agreed to four thousand.

[[File:Movie Sam Bumble Lake.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|That Charles Atlas course really works!]]

Sam took his buddy Miles to the lake, where they encountered Mikaela and her boyfriend [[Trent DeMarco|Trent]]. Trent pretty much told them to get lost, but Mikaela then dumped Trent. Realizing he had his one shot, Sam abandoned Miles and offered to give Mikaela a ride home. When his car had some engine trouble, Mikaela looked under the hood and was quite impressed with the layout of the Camaro's engine, though Sam was more impressed with the layout of Mikaela. After giving her a ride home, Mikaela asked Sam if he thought she was shallow. Sam awkwardly replied that he thought there was "more than meets the eye...with you". After berating himself for his lame pickup line, Sam watched Mikaela wave goodbye from her porch and felt that he had made progress, prompting him to say he loved his car.

[[File:Movie2007 Bumblebee firstsighting.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Nope, nothing out of the ordinary here, no sirree.]]

Later that night, his car suddenly left. Believing it was being stolen, Sam followed it to an abandoned junkyard. To his shock and horror, the car was [[Transformer|alive]]. Sam left his last words to his parents and [[Mojo]], in which he acknowledged that he owned the ''Busty Beauties'' issues that were given to him by his uncle [[Charles (Movie)|Charles]], then investigated. Some police came and arrested him, and an overzealous cop, believing him to be a junkie, called him "[[50 Cent]]". Once he returned home, [[Unicron|Satan's]] Camaro arrived, and Sam fled ignominiously on his [[Judy Witwicky|mother's]] pink bike. He hit the cement hard in front of Mikaela and soon found a police car. He demanded the officer's help...at which point said police car turned into [[Barricade (Movie)|an even scarier car]]. After throwing Sam onto a nearby vehicle, the cop car demanded the location of Sam's eBay items, but Sam fled and ran into Mikaela. The Camaro arrived and took them to a power plant, where the two cars fought it out while Sam was chased by [[Frenzy (Movie)|a spastic abomination]] who pantsed him. Mikaela was able to cut off its head, which Sam punted.

[[File:BarricadeVsSam.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"Are you user name ladiesman217?!" "NO!" "Oh. Well, then never mind." "Really?" "No, I'm still gonna kill you."]]

Sam and Mikaela approached the Camaro, who could only speak through his radio and offered them a ride. Mikaela was hesitant, but Sam convinced her to get in. While driving, Sam had shotgun, but Mikaela refused to sit in the driver's seat. Sam suggested that she sit in his lap. Safety first, right? She agreed, then admitted to Sam that it was a smooth move on his part. Mikaela then asked if the robot was so advanced, then why did he turn into a piece of crap Camaro? Insulted, the car forced them out. As Sam lamented how four thousand dollars had driven off, the car returned as a 2009 Camaro. It took the teens to an observatory, where they watched as four meteors entered Earth's atmosphere, during which Mikaela instinctively reached out for Sam's hand. They were then escorted to an abandoned alley, where they met the biggest surprises of them all: Four other cars [[Transformation|transformed]] into robots. The lead robot, after inquiring about Sam's identity, introduced himself as [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Prime (rank)|leader]] of the [[Autobot]]s, autonomous robotic lifeforms from a planet known as [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Prime introduced [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]], his first lieutenant; [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], his weapons expert; and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], their medical officer (who claimed that Sam's pheromone level indicated that he wanted to mate with Mikaela, embarrassing both teens); and identified the Camaro as Bumblebee, Sam's appointed guardian. Optimus explained their mission to locate the [[AllSpark]], the betrayal of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] and the [[Decepticon]]s, and how Archibald Witwicky's [[glasses]] played a vital role in finding the AllSpark.

[[File:Movie Sam Mikaela meettheAutobots.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Oh, great, now you get mugged by giant alien robots.]]

Going to his house, Sam frantically searched for the glasses, but the Autobots were somewhat impatient and totally wrecked his dad's backyard. After he found the glasses, government agents arrived. Their leader, [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]], took Sam and Mikaela into custody, separating Sam from his parents. Simmons went bad cop on Sam, threatening him with life imprisonment and revealing Mikaela's criminal record. Just as Simmons demanded answers about aliens, Prime intercepted the convoy, and the Autobots totally outclassed the agents. Sam demanded to know what [[Sector Seven]] was, but a backup team arrived. Prime took Sam and Mikaela to hide under a bridge, but they nearly fell to their deaths. Bumblebee saved them but was captured, and Sam and Mikaela were recaptured.

[[File:Movie Sam Bumblebee capture.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|If you thought this part of the hazing was bad, wait'll you see what they do with the scraplets.]]

They were taken to [[Hoover Dam]], where Simmons tried the awkward role of good cop, but Sam was uninterested in talking. [[Tom Banachek]] tried to bribe him, and Sam demanded the freeing of Bumblebee, his parents, and the expunging of Mikaela's criminal record. Taking them into the dam, Sector Seven showed them [[Megatron (Movie)|N.B.E.-1]], whom Sam recognized as Megatron. He explained Megatron's goals and the purpose of the AllSpark. However, the spastic abomination that had pantsed him sent a message to the Decepticons, who attacked. Sam implored Sector Seven to release Bumblebee, saying he could help, which [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]] expedited by putting a gun to Simmons's chest. Bumblebee converted the AllSpark to a smaller form, and the soldiers, soon augmented by the Autobots, escorted the two teens and Bumblebee to [[Mission City]].

[[File:Movie Megatron Samonroof.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Why, Mr. Witwicky, why, WHY do you persist!?]]

Upon reaching Mission City, an F-22 Raptor was spotted, which Ironhide recognized as [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]. Starscream attacked, damaging Bumblebee's legs, and [[Brawl (Movie)|a tank]] attacked the soldiers. As the Autobots and the soldiers went to deal with the tank, Mikaela arrived with a tow truck to remove Bumblebee from the battle. Megatron soon arrived and killed Jazz, and Lennox ordered Sam to take the AllSpark to a building to be escorted out of the city. Despite Sam's refusal to leave, Bumblebee handed the Cube to him, urging him to go. Sam was pursued by Megatron, Starscream, and [[Blackout (Movie)|a helicopter]], with Ratchet and Ironhide providing protection, but they were injured by Starscream, and Sam was forced to leave without them. During his flight, Sam dropped the AllSpark, causing [[Steering wheel robot|some]] [[Dispensor|nearby]] [[Xbox 360 robot|machines]] to come to life. Reaching the building, Sam ignited a flare, but his ride was destroyed by Starscream.

[[File:Movie Sam defeats Megatron.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|left|Now, light our darkest hour...]]

Cornered on the roof, Megatron demanded the AllSpark in exchange for living to be [[Ravage (G1)|his]] [[Laserbeak (G1)|pet]], but Sam refused. Megatron used his flail to knock Sam off the roof, but Sam was saved by Optimus Prime. Telling Sam to hold onto the cube, Prime tried to scale down the building, but Megatron knocked them all off. Prime managed to shield Sam from any serious injury, however. Prime expressed admiration for Sam's efforts and told him that if he couldn't defeat Megatron, Sam was to merge the Cube with Optimus's [[spark]], destroying both Prime and the AllSpark. Megatron was indeed too powerful for Optimus to defeat alone, and Prime told Sam to push the cube into the Autobot's chest. Instead, Sam merged the AllSpark with Megatron, killing him. Optimus extended his thanks, telling him he owed Sam a debt of gratitude. Bumblebee, who could now speak, requested permission to stay with Sam, to which Sam eagerly agreed. Sam and Mikaela entered into a relationship and made out on Bumblebee's hood while Ironhide and Ratchet observed.

Sam ''really'' loves having a car. {{storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}}

{{note|Sam Witwicky's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, were also chronicled in the novels “[[Transformers (novel)|Transformers]],” “[[Transformers: The Junior Novel]],” and "[[The Quest for the AllSpark]]"; the "[[Transformers: Movie Adaptation]]” and "[[Movie Trilogy]]" comics; the activity book "[[Look and Find Transformers]]"; and the storybooks “[[Bumblebee Rumble]],” “[[Optimus Prime Versus Megatron]],” “[[Sam's New Car]]," “[[Transformers (interactive Play-a-Sound Storybook)|Transformers Play-a-Sound]],” "[[Meet the Autobots]]," "[[Transformers Mix & Match]]" and "[[Transformers: The Movie Storybook]]."}}

====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
:''Actor:'' [[Shia LaBeouf]], [[Davide Perino]] (Italian dub), [[Fuminori Komatsu]] (Japanese dub), [[Sérgio Cantú]] (Brazilian dub), [[Víctor Ugarte Fonseca|Víctor Ugarte]] (American Spanish dub), [[Jimmy Redler]] (French)

[[File:ROTF Sam Cube fragment.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Damned bedbugs.]]
About two years later, Sam was packing up his stuff and preparing to leave for college with his parents, insisting that he was not going to be with anyone else but [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]], at which point she called to tell him she was breaking up with him. Sam played it cool as he convinced her that they should stay together, having already brought a "long distance relationship kit", and offered to throw in his sweater from the battle two years earlier. A shard of the AllSpark fell out of the sweater and a.) brought numerous kitchen devices to life and b.) imprinted a large collection of ancient Cybertronian knowledge onto his brain. After [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] destroyed the kitchen robots (and parts of the Witwickys' house with them), Sam handed the AllSpark shard to [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]]. In a wrenching heart-to-heart with Bumblebee, he dismissed him from his role as guardian, saying it was time for Bumblebee to rejoin the other Autobots (and Sam wasn't allowed to have a car at college, anyway). Before he departed he and Mikaela argued over the fact that neither would say they loved each other, and Sam claimed it was all part of an elaborate plan to keep her interested.

Arriving at college, Sam met his roommate, [[Leo Spitz]], who operated a [[The Real Effing Deal|conspiracy website]] and was convinced that alien robots were hiding on Earth. Sam, already fretting that his wacky roommate would discover his connection to the Autobots and attempting to throw him off the truth, was mortified when he realised [[Judy Witwicky|Judy]] had unknowingly bought and digested brownies, making her run around the campus and babbling about his private life before [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] took her away.

Going to a frat party on at the same time as his first web chat date with Mikaela, Sam also met his fellow student [[Alice]], who immediately and forcefully attempted to seduce him. When Bumblebee showed up noting they had a problem, Alice invited herself along on a ride with Sam, but Bumblebee did everything he could to convince her to leave. After finally getting rid of her, Bumblebee took Sam to Optimus Prime, who was convinced—for some reason—that Sam was in danger. Even more strangely, Optimus asked Sam to act as a go-between for the Autobots to humanity at large. Sam, wanting to be normal, declined due to his anger that he hadn't even been given one day of normality at college.

[[File:ROTF mental meltdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|What do you mean, this movie is [http://theabyssgazes.blogspot.com/2010/03/teal-and-orange-hollywood-please-stop.html only orange and teal?]]]
Because no good deed goes unpunished, of course, as Sam shortly thereafter began to see [[Cyberglyphics|strange symbols]] right in the middle of his first astronomy class. He also developed a nasty eye tic and decided to assert in front of his [[Colan|professor]] and about three hundred of his colleagues that Einstein was wrong, that the first four dimensions were unfairly in the spotlight, and what about the other thirteen that nobody ever talks about? He began to write out the symbols in support of this theory on a blackboard in front of his class, until he pulled himself together and was ordered out of the class.

After recovering from this outburst, Sam believed it might have something to do with him touching the AllSpark shard, and he contacted his bitter-for-standing-him-up girlfriend to warn her not to touch the shard. Mikaela promptly boarded a plane to see Sam, but when she arrived, she found him in what appeared to be an intimate moment with Alice, who had come in with Leo as Sam was drawing more Cybertronian symbols all over the walls. Fortunately for Sam's relationship, Alice turned out to be a killer alien robot who tried to strangle him with her tongue. Sam, Mikaela and Leo, who stumbled across Alice's robotic self by accident, tried to escape but were captured by a [[Grindor (ROTF)|Decepticon helicopter]] who took them to an abandoned foundry where [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and a resurrected [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] waited.

[[File:ROTF must have brain.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Hey Doc, don't get all Egyptian-ish and take out my brain through my nose!]]
After Sam's failure at relating to the thirty-foot-tall robot, Megatron ordered a small, glasses-wearing robot called [[Scalpel (ROTF)|The Doctor]] and his [[Scalpel's assistant|assistants]] to remove Sam's brain in order to access the information from the AllSpark shard. Sam pleaded for the chance to talk things through, just as Optimus Prime and Bumblebee arrived and attacked the Decepticons, freeing Sam, Mikaela and Leo. Fleeing with the Autobot leader through a forest, Sam was caught up in Optimus's attempt to fight off Megatron, Starscream and Grindor all by himself. After killing Grindor, Optimus was impaled by Megatron and died, his last words being for Sam to run. Just then, the other Autobots arrived, causing Megatron and Starscream to retreat. Sam was safe, for the moment at least, and upset that he had been responsible to Optimus Prime's death.

In a hijacked TV broadcast, [[The Fallen]] revealed his existence to the global public and demanded Sam to be surrendered to him. Decepticons landed around the globe, killing several thousand people. In Paris, one of them tracked down Sam's parents and captured them, and a manhunt led by the FBI and CIA began for Sam. Sam hid out with Mikaela, Leo, Bumblebee and the Autobot twins, [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] in an old prison, and was frustrated by Leo's panicking. Sam contemplated turning himself in, blaming himself for all the casualties, but Mikaela and Bumblebee knew the Decepticons wouldn't just leave Earth alone if that happened.

Sam then decided they should try and find out what the symbols he had been seeing meant, but neither Bumblebee or the twins could read the ancient dialect, and Leo suggested they ask his rival, "[[Robo-Warrior]]", owner of a [[GiantEffingRobots.com|competing website]], for help. To everyone's surprise, Robo-Warrior turned out to be none other than [[Seymour Simmons]], former agent of [[Sector Seven]], who still held a small grudge against Sam until he mentioned the Cybertronian symbols. Simmons revealed that symbols similar to those Sam was obsessed with had been found on numerous excavation sites around the world, but in order to read them, they might need a Decepticon. Mikaela just happened to be carrying around [[Wheelie (ROTF)|a Decepticon]], who when interrogated suggested they track down one of the [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seekers]], a species of Transformer that had been present on Earth for much of its history.

[[File:ROTF Sam burns hand.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4| AHHH, THE LIGHT—IT BURNS!!!]]
At the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum, Sam used the last remaining AllSpark shard to reactivate an old Decepticon named [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]], disguised as an SR-71 Blackbird. Jetfire claimed to have defected to the Autobots and upon Sam showing him the symbols and mentioning The Fallen's name, Jetfire opened a [[space bridge]] and teleported the entire group to [[Egypt]], injuring Sam's hand in the process. Jetfire proceeded to tell them about The Fallen, who betrayed his brothers, the [[Dynasty of Primes|Primes]], many millennia ago. The Fallen intended to destroy the Earth's sun in order to create [[energon]], the Transformers' source of energy, and the symbols in Sam's head were a map to the location of the [[Star Harvester]], the weapon intended to use to destroy the sun. Jetfire also revealed that only a Prime could stop The Fallen, and a key was needed to activate the harvester: the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Sam asked Jetfire whether the Matrix would also revive Optimus Prime, to which Jetfire responded that it might be possible, given the unusual radiation that the Matrix generated.

[[File:ROTF Matrix crumbles.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|We came all the way to Kansas for this, and that benefactor didn't tell me my PS3 Controller would just crumble into dust!]]
Setting off with Jetfire's translation of the symbols, "When dawn alights the Dagger's Tip, Three Kings shall reveal the doorway", Sam planned to have Simmons call [[William Lennox|Lennox]] and have him transport Optimus's body to Egypt. After a stopover for the night between the Pyramids of Giza, during which Sam totally failed at declaring his love for Mikaela, he realised that the Three Kings were in fact the star constellations above the Pyramids, which pointed to Jordan. In the Petra mountains, the group discovered the tomb of the Primes, uncovered during a fight between Skids and Mudflap. Inside, Sam found the Matrix, which crumbled to dust when he touched it. Sam collected the dust regardless, and together they traveled back to Egypt.

[[File:ROTF-Mikaela-and-Sam-Running.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Run, Mikaela! Run for the sake of cool perspective shots!]]
Meanwhile, the NEST team parachuted down and prepared for [[Operation: Firestorm|battle]] near the pyramids, having realised the Decepticons were on their way. Before Sam and the others could get back to Lennox and his people, the Decepticons commenced their assault and Starscream attacked, so while the others created a diversion, Sam and Mikaela cut through an Egyptian village. After killing a searching [[Insecticon (Movie)|Insecticon]], they fled from Starscream and [[Scrapper (ROTF)|Scrapper]], running straight into a trap the Constructicon [[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]] had set up using his parents. Sam stalled for time by offering to hand over the Matrix dust, 'til he was rescued by Bumblebee. Sam ordered Bumblebee to get his parents to safety while he and Mikaela continued on.

[[File:Tf2009 mol.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Even Frisbees on Cybertron were co-opted into the [[Great War (disambiguation)|Great War]].]]
Sam and Mikaela almost joined a search group led by [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] and [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], but they were attacked and forced to head on by themselves. Arriving at the site of the main battle, they were saved by Lennox, [[Robert Epps|Epps]] and Jetfire, but Sam was mortally wounded by a blast fired by Megatron as he made his way to Optimus's body. While paramedics tried to reanimate him, the Matrix dust was spilled across his hand, and Sam encountered the dead Primes in a vision. The Primes told him that he was destined to find the Matrix and save the life of the last Prime. Sam returned to life, and the dust in his hand reassembled itself into the Matrix. Sam took the opportunity to tell Mikaela that he loved her. With the Matrix, Sam was able to revive Optimus Prime, who ultimately was able to defeat the Fallen.

[[File:ROTF Sam back at school.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Did anyone miss me?]]
With the battle won, the Autobots, NEST, Sam and his friends returned to the USA on board an aircraft carrier, where Sam and Optimus Prime checked out the view from the back. Optimus thanked Sam for saving his life, and Sam in turn thanked him for believing in him. Upon his return, Sam continued to attend college. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

{{note|Sam Witwicky's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, were also chronicled in the novels “[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]],” “[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Junior Novel]]” and “[[The Last Prime]]"; the “[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation]]” and "[[Movie Trilogy]]" comics; and the storybooks "[[Rise of the Decepticons]]," “[[When Robots Attack!]],” "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Electronic Voice Changer]]" and "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Mix & Match]]." In adaptations based on early drafts of the screenplay, Sam became a new vessel for the AllSpark as it transferred its knowledge from the Cube's remains to him. The information was transferred to the [[Matrix of Leadership]], and Sam would never be bothered by symbols again.}}

====''Dark of the Moon'' film====
[[File:DOTMObama Sam.JPG|left|thumb|210px|Picture Perfect Smile.]][[File:DOTMSamDatsuncar.JPG|right|thumb|200px|Having lost his prized Bumblebee toy, Sam resorted to buying knock-offs to fill the void in his heart.]]
:''Actor:'' [[Shia LaBeouf]], [[Davide Perino]] (Italian dub), [[Fuminori Komatsu]] (Japanese dub), [[Víctor Ugarte Fonseca|Ugarte]] (American Spanish dub), [[Sérgio Cantú]] (Brazilian dub), [[Jimmy Redler]] (French)
Sometime after [[Operation: Firestorm]] and following being dumped by Mikaela, Sam was awarded a medal for his heroism by [[Barack Obama]]. While at the White House, he met [[Carly Spencer]]. He later went on to move in with his new girlfriend in [[Washington, D.C.]]. They took in the small Autobots [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and [[Brains]] as "pets" (and [[Bonecrusher (dog)|Mikaela's dog]] for some reason) while Bumblebee also continued to live with Sam, but he would frequently leave to continue his work with [[NEST]], leading Sam to buy a Bumblebee-like car (described by his mother as a 'sad piece of shit') to fill in for his friend.

Receiving a stuffed rabbit from Carly as a good luck charm as he prepared to set out to find a new job, Sam took a moment to complain about the government not allowing him to work with the Autobots, having to borrow money from Carly to pay for things, and the fact that his parents were coming to visit in a week's time. As Carly left for work, Sam reminded the small Autobots of their place and left to begin job-hunting. But his parents had arrived early, and Sam made it clear he had job interviews, and he had to get a ride from them, since his car refused to start. After a series of failed interviews, Sam arrived at a telecommunication company named [[Accuretta Systems]], where his apparently failing attempt to win over [[Bruce Brazos]] succeeded, and he was given a position as a mail carrier. Sam then visited Carly at [[Hotchkiss Gould Investments]] with the news. He then met Carly's boss, [[Dylan Gould]], who seemed all too close to his girlfriend, but Sam denied any jealousy. Before they could go, Dylan revealed that he was on the board for Accuretta Systems and had provided a letter of recommendation for him, to Sam's confusion.

Almost as soon as he started work, Sam found his job to be boring and unfulfilling. Receiving a quick visit from Carly, during which she apparently helped boost Bruce's opinion of Sam, he was dismayed to learn Dylan had loaned her a [[Mercedes-Benz|Mercedes]] SLS AMG.

[[File:DOTM-JerryWangSam.jpg|left|thumb|200px|They warned me about office romances...]][[File:DOTMSam Bee Thatsmycar.JPG|right|thumb|200px|"Sam, did you replace me with a piece of rusting junk?" "Of course not, I replaced you with a collectible automobile."]]

Later, one of Sam's co-workers, [[Jerry Wang]], confronted Sam and held him down in a toilet stall. There Jerry told the freaked-out Sam that the Autobots were in danger and the Decepticons were killing humans. After giving Sam his manifesto, Jerry left and Bruce noticed that the two had been struggling in the stall together, creating some . . . awkward moments afterwards. Sam went through Jerry's notes, which contained information regarding the dark side of the Moon. He was confused as to what it meant and went to Jerry's office to ask some questions, but Jerry acted strangely, pretending it had never happened and demanded he leave. Almost immediately after, Jerry fell out of the window to his death, and Bruce told Sam that he didn't care about what had happened earlier, however a [[Laserbeak (DOTM)|condor-like Decepticon]] suddenly attacked Sam, amd he barely managed to get out of the office.

Sam decided to head to the NEST base with Carly, but the guards refused to let him in and pretended he was in the wrong place. After arguing with the guards, Sam radioed for Bumblebee as they restrained him, and Bumblebee arrived and warned them off. Before they went in, Sam told Bumblebee that he was disappointed that they never saw each other any more. He told [[William Lennox|Lennox]] about Jerry's death and his notes of the Moon. Incidentally, NEST and the Autobots had discovered the crashed Autobot ship the ''[[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]]'', which had been the driving force of the American-Russian space race in the '60s, on the Moon. Not only that, they had recently returned from it with the deactivated [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] and five pillars that helped form a space bridge. National Intelligence Director [[Charlotte Mearing]] was not happy with Sam's presence, and after witnessing Optimus reactivate Sentinel with the [[Matrix of Leadership]], she warned Sam that while she was pleased with the information he had brought, he was nothing but a messenger and that his help wasn't necessary.

Upon arriving back at home with Bumblebee, Sam decided he wasn't going to let the matter go and called [[Seymour Simmons|Simmons]] and his assistant [[Dutch (DOTM)|Dutch]] for help. The group went through piles of information and came to the conclusion that humans were working with the Decepticons and had been doing so since the space race. When Carly got back, she wasn't happy with Sam, reminding him they were going to Dylan's and believed that he wanted to put himself in danger. She asked Sam to let the situation go, but he refused, and she left. After tracking down a pair of Russian cosmonauts, the group learned that there were once hundreds of pillars, but the Decepticons had stolen them before anyone had reached the ''Ark''. Realising that the Decepticons had left behind Sentinel, the only one who could control the pillars, so that the Autobots could revive him, Sam called Mearing to warn her.

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Aided by Bumblebee, [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]] and [[Mirage (Movie)|Dino]], they began escorting Sentinel back to the NEST base. En route, they were attacked by the [[Dread (DOTM)|Dreads]], and during the ensuing chase, Bumblebee was forced transform over a crashing truck, tossing Sam out above him and catching again as he reverted to vehicle mode. But when they arrived back at base, Sentinel revealed that he had made a deal with Megatron to restore Cybertron, then killed [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], wrecked the NEST base and stole his pillars before leaving.

Sam rushed back home to find Carly before remembering she was at Dylan's. He went to his parents to tell them about their argument, and after an embarrassing conversation in which Judy and Ron expressed their opinions of Sam's love life, he realized how much he loved Carly and warned his parents to leave the city. Arriving at Dylan's mansion, he convinced Carly to allow them the chance to talk by being rude to Dylan. However Dylan revealed that his father was once one of the Decepticons' allies. Sam and Carly tried to flee in the loaned Mercedes, only for it to reveal itself as [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], who held Carly hostage. Dylan demanded that Sam find out the Autobots' plan to fight back against the hundreds of the Decepticons brought to Earth by the space bridge, forcing him to wear a [[Watch-bot]] so that he couldn't warn them. Before he left, Sam promised that he would kill Dylan for threatening Carly. He was taken to Mearing by NEST agents, and after she apologized for not believing him, learned that Sentinel had forced the government into exiling the Autobots. Sam was taken to the Autobots' ship, the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]'', where a group of Autobots called the [[Wrecker]]s were preparing the ship for launch. Sam pleaded for Optimus to ignore the government's demand for exile and asked what their plan was, but Optimus said they had none. After he and Bumblebee bade him farewell, Sam watched as the ''Xantium'' took off and called Dylan to let him know they were gone, only to learn that the Decepticons had never intended to let the Autobots leave. Sam could only watch as the ship was then destroyed.

He decided that he would find Dylan and save Carly, and with Simmons and Dutch's help he tracked Dylan's location to [[Chicago]]. [[Robert Epps|Epps]] decided to help Sam and gathered a group of soldiers to accompany them. But en route, the Decepticons invaded Chicago, and the group arrived on the devastated city outskirts. While the soldiers were reluctant to go in, Sam was determined, even though Epps tried to convince him they didn't stand a chance. They were then attacked by a Decepticon [[Orbital Assault Carrier|fighter]], which was brought down by Optimus Prime and the Wreckers. As the rest of the Autobots arrived, they revealed that they had known the Decepticons would never let them go or leave Earth alone and so had hid in a booster rocket that disengaged before the ship was destroyed. With Bumblebee piloting the fighter, Sam infiltrated Dylan's building but was again attacked by Laserbeak, who dropped him over the side. Luckily, Bumblebee caught him, and after Carly jumped onto the fighter, Sam held Laserbeak in place as Bumblebee blasted the 'Con's head off. Once the fighter crash-landed, they awaited the arrival of the rest of the Autobots. After Carly explained the Decepticons' scheme to bring Cybertron into Earth's solar system to NEST via a downed UAV drone optic, Epps came up with a plan to destroy the control pillar with a rocket shot from a high building. Before Sam and the other humans left, [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]] handed out grappling hooks and boomsticks.

[[File:DOTMGrappleglove.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|I love the Power Glove. It's so bad.]]

Sam and the others made it into [[Galileo Building|a tall building]], but before the rocket could be launched, Decepticon fighters began firing at the skyscraper, causing it to tilt, and a Decepticon protoform came in looking for them. Escaping by jumping out of the window and sliding down to a lower floor, the group's presence was discovered by [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]], who sent his [[Driller]] to finish the building. After their tower slammed into another, Sam and the others escaped while Optimus arrived and killed the Driller. They began rushing toward the building with the pillars, which had started to activate, but Sam and Carly were separated from Epps and his men. They were found by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], who relished the opportunity to be alone with Sam and started toying around with him. Sam fired the grappling hook into one of Starscream's eyes, and as Starscream thrashed in panic, Sam was flung around and eventually crashed through a window. While he had the opportunity, he armed one of the boomsticks Que had given him, hoping that it had 'better work.' Taking advantage of the arrival of Lennox's team, Sam jumped onto Starscream's head and lodged the armed boomstick into his other eye. He was again flung around while Lennox tried to free him. Starscream flew to the top of a building, and as his head exploded, Bumblebee arrived to catch the falling pair.

They met up with Epps's team and large force of soldiers, but Sam and Carly snuck across the river to find Bumblebee, Dino, Sideswipe, Que and [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] captured by Soundwave's forces. As the 'Cons began executing their prisoners, starting with Que, Sam desperately tried to prepare another boomstick to save Bumblebee when his turn came, but it malfunctioned, forcing Sam to watch in horror and despair as his friend was about to be executed before his eyes. Luckily, Bumblebee was saved when Wheelie and Brains took control of a Decepticon ship and caused a distraction that allowed Bumblebee to kill Soundwave. Sam and Carly ended up in the middle of the battlefield, and Sam called to Optimus to warn him about the pillars, and Optimus managed to stall the process by firing at the control pillar. Sam insisted on helping and assured Carly she would be all right, then began rushing to the pillar, which Dylan was trying to reactivate. Sam tried to stop him but failed, and Dylan kicked him off the collapsed structure. Sam refused to give up, however. When Dylan said Sam wasn't a hero, Sam agreed, stating he was just the messenger...then knocked Dylan into the active pillar, killing him. Bumblebee and Ratchet arrived and destroyed the pillar, causing the partially formed Cybertron to collapse in on itself.

After Optimus had killed Sentinel Prime and Megatron, Sam arrived with the others and hugged Carly in relief. Sam apologized for putting himself in danger and said she was all he needed and he would do anything to make it up to her. She forgave him, and Bumblebee took the opportunity to pass out rings, though Sam interpreted this as needing to "slow way down". Sam then joined the Autobots and soldiers as they stood as heroes for rescuing the world from utter destruction -- perhaps finally with due credit. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

{{note|Sam Witwicky's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, were also chronicled in the novels “[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|Transformers: Dark of the Moon]]” and “[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon: The Junior Novel]]”; the “[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation]]” and "[[Movie Trilogy]]" comics; and the storybooks “[[Autobots Versus Decepticons]],” "[[The Lost Autobot]]," "[[Optimus Prime's Friends and Foes]]," "[[Dark of the Moon: Action Pop-ups!]]" and “[[Bumblebee's Best Friend]].”}}
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====''The Last Knight'' film====
Sam's profile picture for his ebay account ladiesman217 can be seen with the Witwiccan family tree unearthed by “[[Edmund Burton | Sir Edmund Burton]]” along with “[[Archibald Witwicky]]”, revealing that both are descendants of the Medieval wizard “[[Merlin]]”. Since “[[Viviane Wembly]]” is confirmed by Edmund as the last descendant of the Witwiccans, Sam is dead by implication, presumably before the events of “[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film) | Transformers: Age of Extinction]]” as he was absent from the film.

===IDW movie comics===
[[File:MoviePrequel3 Sam madman.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.85]]

At age twelve, [[Ron Witwicky|Sam's father]] presented him with the heirlooms of his ancestor [[Archibald Witwicky]]. At first, thinking they would be priceless artifacts or treasure, Sam was not impressed with what he described as "junk" and made googly eyes with the arctic explorer's glasses. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 3|Movie Prequel #3}}

Years later, Sam discovered the concept of riding around in cars to cruise for chicks. His best friend [[Miles Lancaster|Miles]] suggested an [[eBay|online auction]], but also convinced him to hold off on it until he was actually old enough to drive, as perhaps by then somebody would be interested in his family's heirlooms. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 4|Movie Prequel #4}}

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Shortly after the battle of Mission City, Sam and Mikaela were watching Ratchet reattach Bumblebee's legs when [[Dispensor|the transformed Mountain Dew machine]] suddenly attacked Sam. Fortunately, Ratchet crushed the creature before it could cause further havoc. Examining the liquid from its remains, Ratchet warned his human friends about the dangers in weight gain and tooth decay that the substance could cause to them. Amused, Sam and Mikaela promised to be careful. {{storylink|Alliance issue 1|Alliance #1}}

A few months later, after the Autobots and the [[United States military]] had agreed to operation under a formal military alliance as [[NEST]], Major Lennox became concerned over an ominous warning he had received from [[Swindle (Movie)|a Decepticon]] they had just destroyed. The Decepticons were looking for "it", and both Lennox and Optimus Prime feared they could be after Sam again. Though Lennox refused Prime's suggestion of placing Sam in protective custody at their base on [[Diego Garcia]], believing it was too much for the boy to handle, they agreed that somebody needed to keep an eye on Sam, and so Bumblebee once again assumed the role of his protector. {{storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}

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Sam was delighted to see Bumblebee return, but the delight stopped when Bumblebee "helped" to get a cat out of a tree by shaking the tree until it got off. After learning that Bumblebee had returned to watch over him, Sam used the Autobot as his ride to the movies for a double date between him and Mikaela, and Miles with Mikaela's friend [[Lindsey]]. Once there, he saw Trent's truck and hoped not to run into him. The night went without a hitch, and Sam was happy that Bumblebee behaved himself in front of Trent, but Bumblebee explained that he got back at Trent by flipping over his car, which displeased Sam. As the days went by, Bumblebee's attempt to integrate himself into Sam's life didn't go as smoothly as he had hoped. Without the team structure of the Autobots, Bumblebee grew more reckless and impulsive, from smashing a would-be car thief with the door he was attempting to unlock, to inadvertently earning Sam traffic tickets for running red lights. Eventually, Sam discussed his upcoming college plans with Bumblebee, explaining that the yellow guy might not be able to accompany him at school. He then had to persuade his parents to let Bumblebee stay in the garage while he was at school, but Ron strenuously said no, stating that 'Bee could stay for the summer, but once Sam left for school, the Autobot had to leave too. Frustrated, Sam walked to Mikaela's to cool off, but twenty minutes later, he was captured by Barricade, who chained him up and hung him from a hook over a junkyard car crusher. The Decepticon demanded that Sam tell him the locations of Bumblebee and the AllSpark, but Sam had no idea about either. As Barricade prepared to drop the young human into the crusher, Bumblebee arrived just in time, and Sam safely fell onto a pile of tires while Barricade taunted Bumblebee about how Earth had made the Autobot soft and how their last encounter was just luck. Barricade easily swatted Bumblebee aside and went after Sam, but 'Bee managed to pull himself out of the scrap and assaulted Barricade once more. Barricade had the upper hand, so Sam helped by operating a crane. However, he had trouble controlling the vehicle, and Barricade snapped the chain-hook off and tossed the crane aside before charging at the crane's occupant again. Bumblebee then used the abandoned chain-hook to knock Barricade into a pool of gasoline. He sent Sam off to a safer distance and fired his cannon at the gasoline-soaked Decepticon menace, causing a massive explosion. Bumblebee survived the explosion, and Sam was happy to see him okay. He then asked what had happened to Barricade, and Bumblebee responded that they probably hadn't seen the last of the Decepticon. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 1|Tales of the Fallen #1}}

Sam and Mikaela later broke up, making him somewhat "testy". {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} He was also invited to dinner at the [[White House]], having saved the world twice, where he met [[Carly Spencer]]. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

While hanging out together on the open road, Sam and Bumblebee came under attack from Starscream. Bumblebee ejected Sam out of his car mode as he transformed to keep him out of harm's way while duking it out with the Decepticon. Starscream wound up landing in a river, and Sam used a downed power line to electrocute the water, damaging Starscream and forcing him to retreat. {{storylink|Transformers: Bumblebee}}

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Sam was enjoying a picnic with Arcee and Bumblebee when they detected an energy signature emanating from a nearby cave. Investigating, the trio was ambushed by [[Space Case (DOTM)|Space Case]]. As the two Autobots faced off against the Decepticon, Sam warned Bumblebee to not use his missiles, as they might bring the whole cave down on their heads. This only served to give Space Case an idea though, and the Decepticon brought down the cave's ceiling on Sam, Bumblebee and Arcee. Bumblebee shielded Sam from bodily harm, but Space Case got away. {{storylink|Transformers: Space Case}} Buried under rubble, Bumblebee was strained to hold up a boulder from smashing down onto Sam as their oxygen slowly began to run out. Sam talked to Bumblebee to keep himself optimistic about their situation, but Bumblebee couldn't even respond, as the rocks were cutting him off from Earth's radio transmissions. Digging deep for inner strength, Bumblebee managed to muscle them out of their prison as Sam was beginning to choke for lack of fresh air. Outside, they found Ratchet, who had already rescued Arcee, and had been digging for them from the outside of the cave-in. Sam thanked Bumblebee for always being his friend when he needed him to be. {{storylink|Transformers: Bumblebee}}

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Sam was returning from a fast food restaurant in [[Philadelphia]] when he found Bumblebee menacing a small robot calling itself "[[Brains]]". {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 1|Rising Storm #1}} He and Bumblebee brought the renegade Decepticon brain unit to Sam's college, where they met [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]], who realized Brains was a scrap drone like him. Sam asked Brains why he was in Philadelphia, and the little 'bot responded that he was running for his life from a Decepticon trying to kill him. [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] then smashed through the wall and attempted to reclaim Brains. Sam contacted NEST, and [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] and [[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] arrived to help. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} As the place quickly became a battlefield and Sam was about to be killed by [[Space Case (DOTM)|Space Case]], Carly appeared and saved him by using a weapon attached to one of the fallen Transformers around her to fend off the Decepticon. Both of them were saved from subsequent danger by the arrival of the rest of the Autobots. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} Later, he and Carly began a relationship and moved to Washington, D.C. along Brains and Wheelie. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 4|Rising Storm #4}}
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====''Transformers: Beginnings''====
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When Sam was presented with Archibald Witwicky's personal effects, at first he was excited at the prospect of becoming rich, but was less than impressed with the "junk" in the box and made flippant remarks about Archibald's eventual fate. This reaction mildly annoyed his father. {{Storylink|Transformers: Beginnings (Movie)|Transformers: Beginnings}}

{{note|Transformers: Beginnings is a condensed, flash-animated retelling of the [[IDW Publishing|IDW]] ''[[Transformers: Movie Prequel]]'' that is detailed above this section.}}

===Titan Magazines movie comics===
Young Sam grew up with [[Ron Witwicky|his dad's]] ''extreme'' [[Christmas]] cheer, to the extent he still kept the [[Santa Claus|Santa]] myth going when Sam was an adult. Sam had stopped believing in Santa years before when his dad, in full costume, entered his room and fell on him ("I thought Santa Claus was trying to suffocate me!"). {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.19|The Nightmare Bee-4 Christmas}}

Sam's parents took him to college, and ''God'', did he regret that when his mother kept holding his hand. He was slightly surprised when Bumblebee drove off without warning. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

[[File:Titan6 Samabducted.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Is that Sam or Adam Sandler?]]

Weeks later, he was en route to meet Mikaela when he was accosted by [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]. Annoyed, he pointed out he'd done his part and just wanted to be left alone, but the twins pushed him into taking a ride in Skids. They explained they'd been framed for a crime they didn't commit, they had vital intelligence of a secret Decepticon army, and they wanted Sam to inform Optimus because Prime trusted him. Sam, being a smart kid, didn't think much of wild stories by two strangers who'd abducted him and said he'd ''think'' about it. When Bumblebee turned up and the twins accelerated, he stopped thinking and starting banging on Skids window in a desire to GTFO.

Luckily, Skids spat him out. Unluckily, he then saw Bumblebee get gunned down by [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], who'd come to recruit the twins. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

For [[Christmas]] 2010, Sam let Bumblebee observe the Witwicky festivities (and worried the Autobot would start copying his dad's traditions). That was handy because the undead [[Dead End (ROTF)|Dead End]] came for him! When Bumblebee intervened, Sam just about managed to keep the battle from waking his parents. On Christmas Day, he handed Bumblebee some spare parts as a present and was given some snazzy decals.{{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.19|The Nightmare Bee-4 Christmas}}
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====Alternate timeline====
Sam held the key to Earth's survival, and his attempt to destroy Megatron with the AllSpark... failed. Sam was killed, and Mikaela and Bumblebee mourn him still. Bumblebee wondered if there was another reality where Sam's attempt succeeded and the Decepticons didn't conquer the United States. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 9|Twilight's Last Gleaming, Part: 1}}

Mikaela would later note that ever since Sam had died, Bumblebee had been there for him. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 23|Revolution, Part 1}}

===''Mini Mayhem!''===
Sam asked [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] and [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] whether either of them ever thought of defeating [[The Fallen]] with water, him always being on fire and all. The two Autobots were stumped over how they had never considered doing so. {{storylink|Mini Mayhem!}}

===Transformers Annual 2011===
Just as Sam was getting bored with doing his homework, he was attacked by Starscream. He dashed out towards the garage, but Bumblebee, already alerted, proved no match for the Decepticon. Starscream was about to make off with Sam, when Optimus arrived and quickly sent Starscream packing. Sam surveyed the effect that the battle had had on his dad's garden and reflected that he was in for trouble when his dad got back. {{storylink|Sam in Danger}}

===''Hunt for the Decepticons'' storybooks===
[[File:Megatronstucktoelectromagnet-PrimeTarget.jpeg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]
Sam was working in his University's science lab while Bumblebee was away on a mission. There, a [[New lab assistant|new lab assistant]], who in truth was a Decepticon spy, used Sam's computer to send a false distress signal to Optimus Prime. Sam found out about the phony message later that same night, and rushed to the science lab, where he found Optimus being beaten by Megatron. Sam and Optimus worked together to pin Megatron to a supermagnet, and then the two of them made their escape back to Autobot headquarters. {{storylink|Prime Target (book)|Prime Target}}

[[File:Optimusreassures-BuddyBrawl.jpeg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
Sam was enjoying a drive in the city with his friends Bumblebee, Wheelie and Mikaela when the group came under attack from Starscream! Bumblebee and Wheelie began to argue on how to defeat the Decepticon, forcing Sam and Mikaela to run for their lives as Starscream came gunning for them. Thankfully, Optimus showed up and knocked Starscream out with one punch. Optimus then chastised the other two Autobots for allowing their feelings get in the way of their mission to protect the humans. But Wheelie and Bumblebee were too stubborn to apologize to one another, and continued fuming despite Sam and Mikaela's attempt at having them reconcile. Optimus suggested the two teenagers allow Bumblebee and Wheelie some time to simmer down. But then Starscream regained consciousness and resumed his attack. Optimus took over protecting Sam and Mikaela and ordered his subordinates to take care of Starscream together. They did so, and Sam looked on with pride as Wheelie and Bumblebee later thanked one another for their part in defeating the Decepticon. {{storylink|Buddy Brawl}}

[[File:SamwarnsAutobots-SatelliteMeltdown.jpeg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]
Sam witnessed the Decepticons [[Buzzsaw (ROTF)|Buzzsaw]] and [[Ratbat (ROTF)|Ratbat]] tear up a human city, while Soundwave declared that the Autobots had abandoned the humans. Refusing to believe the Decepticon's lies, Sam and Bumblebee set out to find Optimus Prime and the rest of the Autobots. It turned out that the Autobots had been tricked by Soundwave to go to the wrong location when they rolled out to engage the Decepticons. Sam and Bumblebee led Optimus and his troops to the scene of the conflict, where Optimus quickly dispatched the Decepticons. Afterwards, Optimus thanked for Sam's part in the day's events, while Bumblebee and the rest of the Autobots cheered. {{storylink|Satellite Meltdown}}
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===''Kre-O'' comic===
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Kre-O Micro-Changers Combiners comic}}}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
In [[Tyran 609.23-PX Kappa]], Sam Witwicky found clues which [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] planted to draw the Autobots to the Moon. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/22}}

When asked about the fate of Sam following the rise of [[Cemetery Wind]] and the subsequent crackdown on Autobots and their human allies, a version of Bumblebee in [[Axiom Nexus]] became upset and declined to comment. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Bee's Backtalk, 2015/10/09}}

==Games==
===''Transformers'' - The Game===
{{voiceactor|[[Shia LaBeouf]] (English)}}

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC/Wii/PS2====
=====Autobot campaign=====
Bumblebee was listening in on the Witwicky family's conversations and discovered Sam's father had promised to buy him a car the next day. When Sam arrived at the used car lot, he felt as though the Camaro was calling to him and convinced his father to buy it. Later, Sam and Mikaela were leaving school when they were attacked by Barricade. Sam was surprised when his car arrived and turned into a robot, and he and Mikaela fled at Bumblebee's prompting. Once Barricade was defeated, Sam thanked Bumblebee for saving him, then witnessed four other Autobots, led by Optimus Prime, arrive in Tranquility. Sam nervously introduced himself, and Optimus said they needed his help. Sam was surprised to learn his great-grandfather's glasses contained the location to the Allspark, and he went to go retrieve them with Mikaela, only for them and Bumblebee to be captured by Sector 7.

Bumblebee's interference at the Sector 7 base inside Hoover Dam also allowed the two humans to be set free, and they escaped the dam with the Allspark as Megatron began unfreezing. Reaching Mission City, Sam and Mikaela were forced to flee as Barricade returned. Once Bumblebee finally finished the Decepticon, Sam noted how insane the situation was. At that moment, Megatron arrived, and Sam and Mikaela fled once again. Megatron discovered them hiding in a building, but Optimus arrived and apparently killed Megatron. As Sam prepared to hand the Allspark over to Optimus, Megatron charged, and a shocked Sam dropped the Allspark, which Optimus used to end the Decepticon leader's life.
{{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)}}

=====Decepticon campaign=====
Sam and Mikaela were innocently walking down the street when Barricade arrived and attacked. Luckily, Bumblebee came to the rescue, and the two humans got in and drove off. However, Bumblebee was soon defeated by Barricade, who told Sam to give him the glasses. Sam tossed the glasses away, but Barricade got them. Once Barricade left, Sam and Mikaela were surrounded by Sector 7 vehicles.

Later, during the Battle of Mission City, Scorponok threatened Sam, who was prepared to hand over the Allspark, but Ironhide arrived and told them to flee. However, after Ironhide and Jazz were killed in the battle, he and Mikaela went to report this to Optimus. Sam then witnessed the battle between Optimus and Megatron, the latter of whom tracked Sam all across the city until Optimus was killed. Sam dropped the Allspark as he looked solemnly at Optimus's remains, and Megatron used the Allspark to achieve ultimate power. What happened to him after the Decepticons won the battle is unknown. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (console)}}

====''Transformers: The Game'' (PSP)====
{{voiceactor|[[Shia LaBeouf]] (English)}}
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{{storylink|Transformers The Game (PSP)}}

====Transformers Autobots====
Bumblebee was sent to retrieve the glasses that Sam had, but Barricade got there first and got the information. What he did to Sam is unknown. {{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers Autobots}}

====Transformers Decepticons====
Barricade went to retrieve the glasses that Sam had, but Bumblebee got there first and got the information.
{{storylink|Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers Decepticons}}

===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
{{voiceactor|[[Shia LaBeouf]] (English)}}

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====
The Autobots did their best to keep Sam out of the increasingly intense war with the Decepticons, reassigning Bumblebee to rejoin Optimus Prime's unit. Unfortunately, the Decepticons led by Grindor kidnapped him, intent on extracting information from his brain (no doubt in a most unpleasant and final manner). Fortunately for Sam, a force of Autobots arrived to rescue him. Sam managed to warn them of Grindor's presence before being escorted to safety.

Following this, Sam was escorted by the Autobots to an unassuming deli, where former Sector Seven agent Simmons now worked. From there, he led the Autobots to the conveniently close-by museum, where he managed to awaken the ancient Transformer Jetfire while the Autobots held off a Decepticon assault outside. Jetfire teleported them to Egypt, where Sam explored a mysterious tomb while Optimus Prime personally battled Megatron and Starscream. Despite Jetfire's death in battle, the Autobots managed to drive off the Decepticons. During the final battle against the Fallen, Sam's only contribution was to beg Optimus not to lose.

He tended to start babbling when panicked, and there were times when the Autobots must have surely wanted him to shut up. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

=====Decepticon campaign=====
At first, the human germ was of no further interest to Starscream and his Decepticon forces. However, upon discovering his fellow human Mikaela possessed an Allspark shard, the Decepticons first kidnapped her to seize the shard and then visited his college town. After they tore their way through a unit of Autobots sent to stop them, Starscream managed to capture the boy, despite his protests.

Seeing as how he and Mikaela weren't heard from after that, it...er...didn't look too good for them. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

====Wii/PS2====
{{voiceactor|[[Shia LaBeouf]] (English)}}
After [[The Fallen]]'s defeat, [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]] and Sam were heard talking to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Wii/PS2)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

===''Dark of the Moon'' mobile game===
{{charstubgame|{{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (mobile game)|Dark of the Moon}}}}

==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
{{anchor|First Encounter}}
[[File:Movie ScreenBattles SamMikaelaFrenzy.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Yes, run toward the crazy robot.]]
*'''First Encounter''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''SB-01'''

: This Screen Battles pack features a largely unchanged Deluxe class [[Barricade (Movie)/toys#First Encounter|Barricade]] figure, but the Frenzy accessory has been cast in black plastic to better blend in with Barricade's chest. The pack also comes with unposable figurines of Sam Witwicky in a running pose, Frenzy menacing Sam, and [[Mikaela Banes#First Encounter|Mikaela Banes]] holding the power saw she uses to attack [[Frenzy (Movie)#First Encounter|Frenzy]]. The set is packaged in a special window box with a diorama depicting the battle between Barricade and Bumblebee.

: Originally, Sam was supposed to come with a bike that was likely dropped for budget reasons.<ref name="checklist">[http://web.archive.org/web/20080920112933/http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=Collectors/Checklist Hasbro checklist]</ref>

::*''[http://tfu.info/2007/Decepticon/ScreenBattlesBarricade/barricade.htm More information on Screen Battles Sam (with Barricade) at TFU.info]''
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===Revenge of the Fallen===
====Human Alliance====
[[File:ROTF HumanAlliance Sam&Bumblebee.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Sculpted [[Dull surprise|DULL SURPRISE]]!]]
*'''Bumblebee''' / '''Sam Witwicky''' (2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-21'''

:The first human partner in the Human Alliance subset of the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline]], Sam is an articulated 2.5-inch-tall action figure designed to work with the larger-scale, all-new [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Human Alliance|Bumblebee figure]] and other Human Alliance-scale Transformers. He can sit inside Bumblebee's vehicle interior, ride in special seats mounted on Bumblebee's arms, or stand on his shoulder behind his head, with each location having a different weapon for Sam or any other Human Alliance human character figure to use. He's a bit out of [[scale]] with the Bumblebee and the other Human Alliance figures, being slightly undersized.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2009/Autobot/SamWitwicky/samwitwicky.htm More information on ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Sam at TFU.info]''
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===Transformers (2010)===
====Human Alliance====
[[File:TF2010HASamWitwicky.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|PUDDING]]
*'''Bumblebee''' / '''Sam Witwicky''' (2010)

:Sam in this release is an all-new mold that matches his appearance during the final battle in Egypt during ''Revenge of the Fallen''. His proportions are... unfortunate. He comes with a slight [[redeco]] of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Human Alliance 2|Bumblebee]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2010/Autobot/HASamWitwicky/samwitwicky.htm More information on 2010 Sam at TFU.info]''
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===Dark of the Moon===
====Human Alliance====
[[File:DOTM HumanAlliance Bumblebee Sam.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|thumb|"Okay, you're still half yellow. We clearly need to go over this whole 'stealth' thing again..."]]
*'''Bumblebee''' / '''Sam Witwicky''' (Human Alliance, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:''

:''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' Human Alliance Sam is virtually identical to the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' figure and is included with a primarily black "stealth" redeco of Human Alliance [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Human Alliance 3|Bumblebee]].
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[[File:DOTM AutobotDaredevilSquad toys.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|thumb|[[wikipedia:The Man Without Fear|The Man (and Bots) Without Fear]].]]
*'''Autobot Daredevil Squad''' (Multi-pack, 2011)
:An altered version of the original figure, for once. His shirt was [[repaint]]ed to resemble a protective vest. He comes with redecos of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Daredevil|Bumblebee]] and [[Backfire (TF 2010)#Daredevil|Backfire]], and an Autobot Alliance patch.

:This set was exclusively available at Kmart stores in the USA and at Canadian Tire stores in Canada.
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==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
[[File:RobotHeroes BattlefortheAllspark.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|So it doesn't strike anyone as odd that he's running towards [[Brawl (Movie)|another crazy robot]], or that he's the same size as his car, or that his car is melting?]]
*'''Battle for the Allspark''' (multi-pack, 2009)

: The first human ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' figure, Sam is a small [[super deformed]] figure sculpted running with the [[AllSpark]] cube while grinning stupidly. He is only available in a multi-pack with [[Megatron (Movie)/toys|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Movie)/toys|Starscream]], [[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]], [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Bumblebee]].

:There is a small quality control issue regarding to Sam's tampographed eyes: Although he is entirely crossed-eyed on most samples, some units had his eyes (slightly) aligned. His stock photo is also missing white paint on his mouth.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RHSamWitwicky/samwitwicky.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' Sam at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
* According to Roberto Orci, Sam was not given the nickname "[[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike]]", nor [[Ron Witwicky|his father]] the nickname "[[Sparkplug Witwicky|Sparkplug]]"  because, unlike their Generation 1 counterparts, the movie characters are not [[oil rig]] workers or mechanics. Earlier drafts of the script did have Sam earning the nickname "Spike" another way, but this was dropped before the script was finalized.<ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=350123&postcount=4134 Roberto Orci on Paramount's official ''Transformers'' movie forum] explaining why the names Spike and Sparkplug weren't used in the movie.</ref> Regardless, in the Latin American dub of ''Transformers'', Sam appears credited under the name of Sam "Spike" Witwicky.
* Sam's [[eBay]] user name, "LadiesMan217", is a reference to movie director [[Michael Bay]]'s birthday, [[February 17]]. [http://myworld.ebay.com/ladiesman217/ ladiesman217] is a registered user on eBay.
* In the Japanese dub of the film, Sam's eBay username is changed from "LadiesMan217" to "[[Playboy|playboy217]]", since "ladies' man" isn't a term the Japanese are familiar with. To better suit this joke in the Spanish version, his username is "[[wikipedia:Don Juan|DonJuan217]]", named after the famed Spanish womanizer. In the IDW [[Transformers: Movie Adaptation|comics adaptation]], his [[eBay|ePay]] username is "hotstud217". This is even more disturbing.
* According to screenwriter [[Roberto Orci]], he and writing partner [[Alex Kurtzman]] pitched the character of Sam as "Marty McFly on crack".<ref>[http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showpost.php?p=1119191&postcount=1921 Roberto Orci on Don Murphy's forum] responding to criticisms of the human characters.</ref>
*According to [[Edmund Burton|Edmund]], [[Viviane Wembly]] is the last of the line of “Witwiccans.” And then the Witwiccian family tree is shown to the audience, ending with Sam Witwicky himself. If Edmund is right, it doesn't look good for poor Sam.....

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Sam Witwicky''' (サム・ウィトウィッキー ''Samu Witowikkī'')

==References==
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Leo1452: /* Aligned continuity Seekers */

==Additional Pic==

Full catalog page scan.

[[Image:Seekers_ad.jpg|thumb]]
:Does anyone have the page that ran OPPOSITE this one? (It had a GoBots ad, IIRC.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
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==Older Stuff==
In my opinion, both "Seeker" and "Skyraider" should be capitalized, since both are the formal names of subgroups. In fact, the article itself mentions that "Seeker" is capitalized in the JCPenney catalog, which is the only primary source for the term in which capitalization is even distincted (as opposed to the all-capitals use in TWW). -[[User:LV|LV]] 00:44, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. I got carried away with my de-capitalizing things thing. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:05, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Starscream-types in Armada are known as Seekers too, according to page 13 of the DK Reader 'The Awakening,' ISBN 0-78-94-9741-7

What about something about how the coneheads have radicly different character modles becuse they were desinged by Floro Deary, and not by the takara guys that did the Season 1 designs? --X-BoB

I wouldn't call the coneheads "radically" different, but, sure. I'll toss that in. Also, about the paragraph you inserted:

I'm not sure what "according to 3H" is supposed to mean. Are you referring to a statement that Glen or Tengu or somebody made, or do you just mean that the Seeker characters who appeared in 3H's comics happened to have the same design as BM Jetstorm and his drones?

--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I remember Glen or Dan saying that Wreckers Skywarp's body is a common bodytype to the Beast Era, but 1) I'm not sure they said anything about it belonging to the remaining Seekers, 2) I'm not sure it has any relevance to the entry, and 3) the toy Jetstorm looks NOTHING like the show Jetstorm, so I have no idea how one would be based on the other. I'm removing it for now, with the additional note to whomever is consistently misspelling "based" to cut it out. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 05:11, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

If the Jetstorm toy ''is'' the Beast Era Seeker body then that means that within fiction it came before the Aerodrones.[[User:X-BoB58|X-BoB58]] 19:10, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh cool, I didn't know that. I just assumed he' was one of the smaller-drones who was gonna be associated with the Vehicon General body Megatron made for Cyclonus. (That is right, right?) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 11:48, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Didn't Cryotek make Cyclonus' body? -XBob
:IIRC, Cyclonus' bio says that he was a botched plan of Megatron's to make him one of his Generals, but his boxart depicts Cryotek. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:29, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure I agree with the bits about Seeker "going back to being a fan-term" when DW folded. Especially since it is followed by a remark that it HAS been used officially since.
Once something IS an official term, it can't return to being a fan term. Official is official and "Seeker" is now such.

could they be clones
:Dreamwave's Summer Special explicitly referenced "Air Warrior Clones" who were generic Seekers. So ''some'' Seekers are clones. It's unclear whether they ''all'' are, though it's strongly implied in MTMTE #8 that at least some redeco characters are clones. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 21:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
::Yes. Sunstorm and ricochet are both clones... in Dreamwave continuity. In non-Dreamwave continuities they're NOT clones. (We even got an explicit origin for one of the TDU incarnations of Sunstorm that mentioned his powers coming from a manufacturing error.) Dreamwave was clone-happy. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Actually, I was referring to the Summer Special story, where Megatron goes to Beest to find the Predacons and takes a bunch of purple Seekers with him. The title page for that story lists them as "Air Warrior Clones." (Either that, or I'm losing my mind.) --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 21:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
::::Right, that's the Air Cavalry set- the 3 purple PVC's we got as botcon exclusives. But AFAIK, they're supposed to represent 3 survivors (or at least zombie-like salvages) from the hordes of seeker clones in The Age of Wrath. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

==Strike Planes==
I remembered Seekers being called 'Strike Planes' in catalogues when they first came out in the UK, and finally found something that backs up my memory - see http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-image/toysheets/g1/uksheet01/1.jpg/image.html . Is this worth a mention in the article?

:Interesting! I'll stick it in the article. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

::I've just found some old clipping of several 1985 UK store catalogues from 1985 that call the Seeker toys 'Strike Planes' so presumably this was in the Hasbro marketing blurb. Would these be of use or is there enough evidence already? [[User:J'mie|J'mie]] 14:08, 28 August 2010 (EDT)

Another one is the extremely descriptive "Jet Plane" which can be seen in [http://www.flickr.com/photos/38301877@N05/3592674735/in/photostream/ the 1985 Argos catalogue] (also look out for a Conehead Skywarp). As some of the other names/omissions are seen in other early UK adverts (e.g. Soundwave being nameless) there's almost certainly a Hasbro influence in the descriptions. Note also the use of "Trans-Formers". [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 14:10, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

==Move==
I do think that this should be moved to an article title with SOME form of parenthetical disambiguation. Since there IS another "Seeker" that is a separate concept that DOES have a PD. I'm not wild about "group", but lacking a better term... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:03, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:I dunno, I think this would be the primary term people would think about when you give the term "Seeker". The minicon is definitely less well known, so I think it could just be noted at the top of this page "for the minicon named Seeker, please see..." --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::Except that's inconsistent with everything else that requires a disambig on this wiki. Most people think of G1 Prime when you say "Optimus Prime", but he still has the (G1) tag. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::I don't think that G1 Prime is comparable, as many other Optimus Primes have plenty of history and backstory. Energon Seeker is a easily forgotten toy that I think should actually be at the bottom of the main Seeker page, as it doesn't have a lot of info on its own. That being said, if the G1 seekers need disambiguation, how about "Seeker (subgroup)" --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 15:42, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree this should sit in a Disambig (and because there are only two of them, let [[Seeker]] direct to this one.) But the Seekers aren't a 'group,' they're a classification. I'd say "Seeker (jets)", but the mini-con ''is'' a jet already. "Seeker (type)"? It looks kinda weird, but it's... really clear. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:33, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
:The page should be moved to be consistent with our revised disambig rules, and plain old "Seeker" should redirect to it. Picking a parenthetical for the page is not trivial, though. The Seekers aren't really an official subgroup (unless they've been declared that recently in some random ad copy someplace) so we shouldn't use that (and I'm going to take that category away). "Group" and "type" are a little vague, but, something clear like "common body type" is too awkward. As soon as somebody as a good idea, I'll be happy to move the article and update all the links with my bot. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
::"classification"? "body-type"?
::Also... "''Energon Seeker is a easily forgotten toy that I think should actually be at the bottom of the main Seeker page, as it doesn't have a lot of info on its own.''"... that is a profoundly bad idea. Joe-Stalker isn't on the Predator-Stalker page, and all three Flashes are separated. He's not ''a'' Seeker. He's not even a Decepticon. And as an individual character, no matter how little he does, he should get his own page. Stuffing him on a page ''completely unrelated'' to him makes no sense whatsoever, and would make the categories the page appears in REALLY screwed up. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

== Animated ==

Would it be appropriate now to start a section on the Animated Seekers, or do we have to wait for "Fistful of Energon"?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 05:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
:We're probably going to wait until they are actually CALLED Seekers. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 06:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
::Well, we at least know that there are going to be characters along the same concept. Even if they don't end up being called Seeker's, I think it would be correct to add that a similar group exists in Animated.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
'''''SPOILERS, GODDAMMIT.''''' --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:05, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
:::...err, no. The actual episodes which introduce the Seekers may have yet to air, but that Starscream clones/twins will appear in the series was announced a while ago. Besides, we have a "Spoilers" tag anyway.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

==Movieverse Seekers==
In [[The Reign of Starscream issue 2]], Starscream refers to himself as having "Seeker attributes" on page 7, and refers to Thundercracker as a Seeker on page 20. Although the synopsis has yet to be written for the comic, since it has been released, should this info be added to this page? Just wanted to make sure, since there's been such a freak-out over spoilers lately. --[[User:Nightshade83|Nightshade83]] 00:53, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
: [[Defiance issue 4]] also uses the term Seekers to describe the folks sent to blah blah blah way way back at the dawn of time. Seems to include Jetfire. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:57, 19 April 2009 (EDT)

== Questions about the toy section: ==

Are we only counting molds that were redecoed into multiple characters during a franchise or are we including molds that have been in multiple toylines as different characters? For example: the Armada Thrust mold was released as Universe Sunstorm, but this is nowhere mentioned on the page. Also, Cybertron Thundercracker was redecoed as Movie Divebomb.

Movie Dreadwing and Overcast share a mold, but neither is a name that was previously identified as a "Seeker"; do they belong here or not? They are a "family" of jet-mode Decepticons, after all. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:03, 22 April 2009 (EDT)
Adding on another question: What about the 3" Titanium Starscream and Thundercracker? They DEFINITELY should be here, but I'm not sure if they would go under Toys or Merchandise. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:12, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== A second '84-era use of "Seeker" ==
<nowiki>http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/tf84/84_k25nov_zayre.jpg</nowiki> Courtesy crazysteve, here's a November 1984 Zayre circular listing "Decepticon Seekers" for $11.99 a pop. This definitely supports the theory that "Seeker" was used at some early stage, and if the JC Penney catalog and a fairly large regional department store chain both used the term in their advertising, it makes sense that other retailers did too; it's just a matter of finding the evidence. (crazysteve, being crazy, finds these by spending hours in a public library on microfiche readers. i do not have the time for that sort of thing.) [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 07:47, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
:I can't seem to get the darn thing to load.... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:31, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
::I added a question mark to the end of the URL and well... an image loaded alright, but it wasn't a Zayre circular listing. It appears to be a three-way Beast Wars sex act. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 04:28, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
:::I can see it, but then I've got an anti-''anti-''hotlink filter. Copy and paste the link. *tells MediaWiki not to render text as a clickable link* - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 10:08, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
::::Is that 2 YELLOW Cliffjumpers in that picture? Or is the robot mode one actually Bumper? Either way it's an interesting use of non standard toys in the ad.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:21, 8 August 2009 (EDT)
:::::[http://pleasesavemerobots.com/vstp/vstptf84.html This should work]. Text is reproduced on the page, which should help to find it easily.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:28, 1 December 2009 (EST)
::::::Interesting. Perhaps Seeker was an assortment name? It's the only reason I can think of that different stores would use the same uncommon and specialized terminology. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 22:57, 1 December 2009 (EST)

== (G1)? ==
Why has this been moved to Seeker (G1) when it contains non-G1 stuff? Is the article going to be split? Is that really necessary? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 22:19, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
:I agree that the choice of parenthetical doesn't make sense, and came here to the same point as you on that - but the plot of ROTF involves "Seekers" that have no connection to Starscream & co, so it needs '''a''' parenthetical.
:But (G1) isn't it. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 19:49, 24 May 2009 (EDT)
::"(G1)" is correct by the standards. It is the first franchise appearance. See [[Sideways (RID)]] and [[Cryotek (RID)]] - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:21, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:::Sideways and Cryotek are the exact same character in the multiple continuities, so it makes sense to label them with the first continuity they showed up in.
:::However, this is just a similar concept in multiple continuities. The Movie Seekers may have a similar ''concept'' to G1 Seekers, but the Movie Seekers as a ''specific group'' showed up first in the Movies, not G1.
:::But I guess the operative question is, do we have any other non-character multiple-continuity-spanning articles with parentheticals to study as a precedent? Energon (G1) got moved to Energon (fuel), and that's the only one I know of right off the top of my head. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:36, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
::::The ROTF "Seekers" have a very specific ''function'' which is unrelated to body types. Not the same thing as Starscream/Thundercracker/Skywarp/etc at all.
::::And a concept should have a parenthetical after the concept, even if it's something basic like "Seeker (jets)". Not after a franchise. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 17:47, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::You say it should, but I fail to see why the system that works for characters doesn't work here. The Movie and ROTF Seekers are to be split out because they are not the same thing as the G1 Seekers at all. Ditto for Shattered Glass Seekers. That leaves almost completely G1 material, with one Armada reference. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:57, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
::::::The modern use of Movie seekers (the elite unit including Starscream and Thundercracker) could probably stay here. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:01, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Well, that's not going to be the MAIN use of "Seeker" in the Movie continuity family, but it's a valid use and should probably stay on this page if it's referring to "Starscream clones".
:::::::And that's the main use of this page, to refer to reuses of the Starscream [[body-type]] in various continuities and continuity families. Given that this page includes at least four continuity families (G1, UT, Animated and Movie), I fail to see how [[Seeker (body-type)]] would be less vague and open to confusion, since it explicitly ties in to an existing article. Especially since it very clearly disambiguates from the ROTF use of "Seeker".
:::::::I certainly don't believe that disambiguating by franchise always works for characters as well as Interrobang alleges, especially for franchise-jumpers like Sideways (whose whole claim to be an "RID" character is based on a case the article admits is "not airtight" involving an obscure Wal-Mart-exclusive toy with the same name and some Japanese-exclusive publicity material - hell, on that score, given the Japanese Car Robots retcons, it should probably be Sideways (G1)...) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:39, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

"Seeker (body-type)" seems a bit vague, since there are multiple body-types. How about "Seeker (classification)"? That sorta straddles a border between body class and function, which seem to be how Seekers are used. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:45, 26 May 2009 (EDT)
:Movie Seekers could be a "body-type" that can cross interstellar space. They could also be a "classification." How about "Seeker (J.C. Penny wishbook)"? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:20, 26 May 2009 (EDT)

== Merge or delete ==
Is it really necessary to have separate articles for [[Seeker (SG)]], [[Seeker (Movie)]], and [[Seeker (ROTF)]] in addition to the coverage given those uses of the term here? Two of the three are only stubs, and even the ROTF article is fairly short. It would seem that either the relevant material should be removed from this article or those articles should be deleted. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:33, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
:The answer is in the discussion right above you. Namely, it was decided that this and the other Seeker types are all completely different concepts rather than minor variations on the same concept. The amount of info available has no relevance on the question. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:38, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
::Addendum: Plus that reminds me that the SG Seeker page really should be on my list of SG articles to update. *adds* --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 11:42, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Then why retain so much about the Unicron Trilogy and Movieverse seekers on this page? If they are separate enough to warrant their own articles, they are separate enough NOT to be in this article. The disambiguation link would be enough.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:01, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

Is it really necessary to have a page for Optimus Prime for each continuity? YES! The word "Seeker" has different
definitions to SG, Movie and ROTF.

== Propose renaming this article to Seeker (G1) ==

Given that there are now articles for [Seeker (SG)], [Seeker (Movie)], and [Seeker (ROTF)] as well as [Starscream clone] and a section on "hunter-seeker skyships" at [Ferak]; I propose that this page be renamed (and slightly redone) as Seeker (G1). Much information here would remain as is. However; sections 3 (Unicron trilogy), 4 (Live-action movie), 5 (Shattered Glass) and some parts of section 8 (toys, specifically 8.3, 8.10, 8.11) would be transferred to the appropriate pages. This would necessitate the creation of 1 new page: Seeker (Unicron trilogy). Toy section 8.7 would be modified to mention that the Legends of Cybertron mold was used for [Ramjet (G1)] despite being used primarily for characters from other franchises. Toy section 8.6 is somewhat unclear as to whether the characters mentioned are all G1, all other franchises, or a mixture of the two. The note in the first paragraph (and also the Decepticons in later franchises such as Armada where similar "families" of jets appear) would be changed to a simple statement that the G1 group inspired similar groups in later franchises, with the disambiguation page serving to lead readers to these other pages. Much of the information is already in place on the other pages, this process would simply insure that nothing was lost. The disambiguation page already seems to effectively treat this page as Seeker (G1). Changing the name would serve to clarify the distinctions between the similar groups. Also, this would prevent "drift" as data relevant to other lines would be placed on those pages entirely and not haphazardly here or there or both randomly. Opinions? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:03, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:NO.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 23:06, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
::Haven't we already covered this twice on this very page? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 23:31, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:::THIRD TIME'S THE CHARM I GUESS. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:41, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
::::It just seems strange that this page contains information on similar groups from multiple continuities including some with their own pages already. It seemed to me that that was what disambiguation pages were for. I had made this proposal because I felt that Jeysie had misunderstood my previous one. That happens to me fairly often. If no one else seems confused, I will not press further. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:56, 23 August 2009 (EDT)

That said, shouldn't [[Seeker (Movie)]] (not to be confused with the ROTF Seekers) be merged into here, while the stuff about the SG Seekers should be removed from this page entirely? A touch of cleanup couldn't hurt. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:12, 24 August 2009 (EDT)
:For consistency, I think you're right. Khajidha has a valid point, that right now the situation between all the various "Seeker" pages is confused. In fact, between this page's description of the Movie Seekers and the [[Seeker (Movie)]] description, I can't tell if that "Seeker" is really a body-type designation or just indicating membership of a team. Does anyone have that issue of the comic and can give us some hard quotes?
:But while I'm basically in agreement with you in terms of status-quo maintenance, I'm not sure what the ideal content and title of this page ought to be. For one thing, I'm leaning towards the "(G1)" side because this article only talks about other franchises ''in relation to G1.'' The "Unicron Trilogy" section openly ''brushes aside'' that universe's definition of "Seeker" just to talk about how the toy designers made some G1 homages. The SG stuff, as you say, has no place here. And the Movie Seekers, while officially Seekers in the traditional way, don't really add anything of substance to the concept. They seem to be just another parroting of the G1 idea, albeit with more in-fiction backup than their UT equivalent.
:So, if it's correct to say that this article is essentially G1-focused, then the question arises of what non-G1 stuff actually belongs here. I'm.... not ready to say [[Seeker (Movie)]] really doesn't deserve its own page. I think it depends on how much meat can be found in that comic issue. My instinct is to prune the hell out of the non-G1 content until it's just a few sentences and a bunch of "See this other article for more info" notes. But that's more an idle thought than an actual proposal.
:Overall, I agree with those above who have said that "(body type)" is an awkward, possibly-inaccurate parenthetical. But it's an awkward article, and I feel like streamlining it will help settle the titling question.
:- [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 23:54, 24 August 2009 (EDT)

You don't need to read anything above. Just read this: Naming this page Seeker (G1) is a ridiculous idea, considering that it describes the Seeker body-type in all continuities, not just G1.

==The 'Lady in Purple'==
What or who is it? I've never heard of a possibly female Seeker in g1--[[Special:Contributions/91.113.121.205|91.113.121.205]] 19:10, 4 March 2010 (EST)
:There wasn't any female Seekers in G1. The "Lady in Purple" was apparently from some fan fiction. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:19, 4 March 2010 (EST)
:There's a vaguely female-looking seeker in one shot of MTMTE part 3, which fanon has retconned into being female. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:30, 4 March 2010 (EST)
::I know which "character" it is, but that's only because I accidentally found that information on another site long ago. Perhaps someone more in the know could write a short article for the character/add the remaining information to this article? Because as it is now, I find the mention of something that's supposedly "infamous" yet seemingly surprisingly obscure confusing. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:42, 5 March 2010 (EST)
:::There is no "character" for an article to be written for. We don't have articles for single generics who don't do anything but fill out group shots. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 12:18, 5 March 2010 (EST)
::::She's a "Raksha-creation", right? A trivia note on Raksha's page to link to would be all needed. That, or the info on LiP should be outright deleted since it's only confusing like this. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:33, 5 March 2010 (EST)

''Slipstream is not fan fiction. She is in Generation 1 video games. This wiki is not just about the cartoons and movies.''
:This is from 3 frickin years ago, they're talking about someone else. Sign your posts. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:39, 18 September 2013 (EDT)

=="Origin of term "Seeker""==
I don't think it's that odd that the JC Penny catalogs could've started the trend among a whole legion of Transfans. I remember those catologs being in heavy rotation. You were mailed them quite often. I also remember the "seeker" term from far back even before the internet. I definitely picked it up before then so it was probably from the book [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 13:58, 27 April 2010 (EDT)
::Also, those of us not rich enough to afford the toys often held on to the catalog pages for long periods of time. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:05, 27 April 2010 (EDT)

==The Section on G1 Seekers==
I notice that the G1 section is essentially a list of the different categories (Coneheads, Skyraiders etc), whereas the sections on other continuities go into what being a seeker actually is. AHM and then the Ongoing (esp. Issue 4) gave us a more detailed look at the meaning of this term (in the IDW G1 continuity anyway), with why they all look the same, what their purpose is among the Decepticon army and other various intricacies explored. Should we have a section on this? It seems quite pertinent and I feel that the G1 seeker section is lacking in information (it seems like more of a list if I'm being honest). --[[User:SharkyMcShark|SharkyMcShark]] 01:10, 12 July 2010 (EDT)

I've added a section under the G1 seekers heading for the IDW comics continuity. --[[User:SharkyMcShark|SharkyMcShark]] 23:53, 12 July 2010 (EDT)

==Toys==
Should we maybe add Armada Thrust, since he was redecoed into a Sunstorm? Also maybe G2 Skyquake/Machine Wars Starscream since Botcon 2009 has Skyquake as a seeker. And fore that matter Energon Starscream got redecoed twice for Botcon 2009, with both Skyquake and Leozack being seekers there for sure--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 19:50, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

=="Classic Pretender" Seekers==
Do [[:Image:PretenderClassicsBoxArt.jpg|these guys]] count? Was flicking through some old comics the other day and the green Starscream leapt out at me. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:40, 12 August 2011 (EDT)

:Wow. I've looked at that pic plenty of times and it never occurred to me that we were seeing a squad of alt-colored Pretender Starscream there. I'd vote for counting them.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 19:12, 12 August 2011 (EDT)

== Where is the "Go" image for this page from? ==
[[Image:GB-SeekerGroup.jpg|thumb]]

The Seeker in the image doesn't look like it's listed on this page. Just to make it easier for people to answer me, here is the image. {{unsigned|RavenG}}
:Is that Dirge?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.196|192.249.47.196]] 12:07, 12 December 2011 (EST)
::I'm curious about this too. [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 23:39, 27 December 2011 (EST)
{{--}}
:::I thought it might be from Sticker Adventures, but apparently not. Just a really close clone: [http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/books/sticker/return/return.html] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:55, 27 December 2011 (EST)
::::It's from a punch-out book. I have big scans of it somewhere... --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 08:42, 28 December 2011 (EST)
:::::I've got scans I downloaded from somewhere (quite possibly from your site, Monzo). There's also a grey bodied jet with red wings. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:38, 28 December 2011 (EST)

== Comic-Magazin Seeker. ==

I added the the Seeker from the German comics. This is my very first contribution to the wiki so I hope everything is acceptable.
--[[User:RavenG|RavenG]] 05:23, 12 December 2011 (EST)

== Classics mold ==

I've just gone through and redid the section on the Classics Seeker mold. If no one objects, I plan on removing the never ending list of redecoes and retools from the individual pages and simply inserting a link to the Classics section on this page. This should help keep the various pages from getting out of date to varying degrees. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:51, 14 March 2012 (EDT)

==Another 1984 use of "Seeker" ==
Interestingly enough, it's also in the earliest known newspaper ad for TF products - [http://newspaperarchive.com/panama-city-news-herald/1984-04-29/page-155 April 29, 1984]. It's SO early that the ad copy has to explain THESE ARE THE GOOD GUYS AND THESE ARE THE BAD GUYS. This is REALLY early ad copy, so someone, somewhere, had this "Seeker" thing very very early on. Crazysteve (who knows these things) says this actually predates Hasbro employees' recollections of when the toys hit shelves (the general consensus was "sometime in May.) Interesting! [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:02, 1 August 2012 (EDT)
:And the mini-cars are described as "drones". Weird. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:15, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

== Chrome Seekers on Spacebridge Facebook Page ==
"The Spacebridge" just revealed samples of 4 unreleased shiny repaints of the Diaclone mold, one of which was the Takara 'book-reissue' Starscream with Megatron gun. They were potential retailer-exclusive contest prizes...I didn't quite understand it myself. This naturally means new entries to Screamer, Thundercracker, and Sunstorm's toy sections, plus the the 1984 toy section for this page, but the all silver one I'm not sure about. Is there a precedent for that? Unless/until they find documents confirming he was supposed to be an established character, should he have his own page: "Silver Chome Seeker" + unofficial-name tag? Or does he just become a footnote here? [[User:Bumblevivisector|Bumblevivisector]] 20:38, 9 July 2013 (EDT)

== Aligned continuity Seekers ==

This page should be concentrating on the Seeker body-type. The Aligned continuity section of this page contains all the members of the Energon Seekers, a team of jet-based Transformers. Not all members of this Seeker team are of the Seeker body-type. We should be spending time to determine which ones are Seekers and which ones are just in the Seeker team. -- Dreadwing has never been of the Seeker-body type in previous continuities. In the Prime cartoon, he is a part of the Seeker TEAM but if he were truly of the Seeker BODY-TYPE, why isn't his TWIN a Seeker too? -- Jetfire has never been of the Seeker body-type in other continuities and in Aligned, he does not resemble any of the other Seekers. -- Nacelle and Contrail have never existed in other continuities, and Contrail does not appear to be of the Seeker-body type. -- The Ace Vehicons (silver Jet Vehicons) are considered Seekers by Starscream. It is not sure whether they are called Seekers under a different definition. If Ace Vehicons are of the Seeker body-type, why aren't the standard purple Jet Vehicons also Seekers? -- All other Seekers in the Seeker team are definitely of the Seeker body-type. {{unsigned|Leo1452}}
:A) Sign your posts, and B) Aligned Continuity Seekers are basically "any flying Decepticon who has a jet-like altmode." Or at least, that's how it was both during and before the Great War. By the time of TF: Prime, though, the term has apparently become more selective (with only specific individuals having belonged to the Seekers since the group no longer officially exists in the present day), but still not tied to any specific body design. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 18:36, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::Nnnooo. If it's called a seeker, it's a seeker. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:37, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::This page is for the BODY-TYPE. The word "Seeker" can refer to many things, some of which are not the BODY-TYPE. Which Seeker from the Energon Seekers are of the Seeker BODY-TYPE? I know that the Energon Seekers is not tied to specific body-types. I'm just saying that we should determine which characters of the Aligned continuity are of the BODY-TYPE. [[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 18:45, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::Look, the body type diambiguation really only applies to the G1 and Animated versions. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 18:47, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::Since the movies, it's been less a "body type" and more a subgroup, I guess. Seekers don't even need to fly, since some of the movie seekers turn into cars. Maybe this article just needs to have a new parenthetical? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:48, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::Or maybe it needs to be split as I've suggested before. There is a need for a page about the ''term'' Seeker which this page is sort of trying to fill but it is buried in what Seekers are in each continuity family. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:28, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::Movie has 3 definitions for Seekers, ONE of which is a team of Decepticons of the same body-type. [[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 18:49, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::I understand that body-type in Seekers has become less important over the years. The Unicron Trilogy definition for Seekers is any jet-based Decepticon, but there were still come Seekers of the same design (Starscream, Skywarp, Thundercracker). It has been said that Aligned Seekers often, but not always, have similar designs. Can't we spend some time to determine which ones in Aligned are of similar design? [[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 18:53, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::That's easy, but still, not going to change the facts. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:03, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::What facts? [[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 19:11, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::That the Seekers of the Aligned Continuity do not all share the exact same general body design despite their all still being Seekers.
:::::::::::Also, this term "Energon Seekers" you keep tossing around is nothing special. Starscream's claim of having been the leader of them just refers to the entire Seeker Air Command itself. Any claims of "Energon Seekers" being anything different from just "Seekers" in general (strictly regarding the Aligned Continuity that is) are fanon. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:50, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Not fanon. He refers to them as Energon Seekers. Even though that isn't the principal name for it, I'm using it to help differentiate. Anyways, although the term Seeker is becoming less of a body-type and more of a team, almost in every continuity Starscream has followers identical or similar in body-type to him. G1 has the Seekers who are of the same body-type as him. Beast Wars Terrorsaur(who provides a similar effect as G1 Starscream on the series)'s Cybertron mode is identical to Waspinator's Cybertron mode. BWII Starscream has his fellow Jet Warriors Dirge and Thrust. Armada Starscream has Skywarp and Thundercracker with identical body-types to him. Movie Starscream has his team of nearly identical Seekers. Animated Starscream has his clones. What does Aligned Starscream have? I remember that he once had a squad of clones but that was only in 1 episode of Prime. That can't be it. Are the Ace Vehicons meant to give the same effect as the Seekers he leads in G1? --[[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 21:41, 18 September 2-13 (EDT)
::::::::::::::The silver Vehicons are referred to in multiple episodes as seekers, ISTR. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:50, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::Thank you. Are they meant to give the same effect as the Seekers that G1 Starscream leads? And do these Ace Vehicons have a similar design to Starscream? I understand that they also transform into jets and they have a similar paint job but is the body-type the same? --[[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 21:57, 18 September 2-13 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::They transform into the same alt-mode as the regular jet vehicons (essentially a car with wings) so they're not Earth jets like Starscream is, no. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:18, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::Do the Ace Vehicons appear in Prime season 1? Also, are they lead by Starscream? Is the name "Ace Vehicon" the official term? Was the term ever used in the Prime cartoon? --[[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 22:47, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::The term "Ace Vehicon" is from the toy; they were referred to exclusively as "seekers" in the cartoon. They only appear in season 3. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:15, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::::The Seekers of Aligned continuity, excluding Starscream, include the Ace Vehicons, Blitstream, Contrail, Dreadwing, Hotlink, Jetfire, Nacelle, Skywarp, Slipstream and Thundercracker. Out of these Seekers, only Blitstream, Hotlink, Skywarp, Slipstream and Thundercracker can be confirmed as of the same body-type of Starscream (if no one disagrees with this then it should be noted in the article). No direct indication is needed to know that. They bear the same names as their G1 counterparts, whom they are influenced by. -- Dreadwing has never been of the same design as Starscream in other continuities (unless you consider the Movie continuity Dreadwing a Seeker, though that is still under questioning), and even though he transforms in a similar way to Starscream, he doesn't resemble him at all in Prime. He probably isn't of the same body-type as Starscream. -- Jetfire has never been of the same design as Starscream in other continuities. He doesn't resemble Starscream so he probably isn't of Starscream's design. -- Nacelle and Contrail do not exist in any other continuities. I've seen Contrail and he looks nothing like Starscream, and he definitely doesn't transform in a similar way. He probably isn't of the same design. Nacelle, I've never seen. -- The Ace Vehicons have the same paint job but definitely not the same body-type as Starscream. -- Am I right to assume that in the Aligned continuity, Dreadwing, Jetfire, Contrail and the Ace Vehicons are not of the same design as Starscream? [[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 23:45, 18 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::::Out of curiosity, have you even watched the show, or played any of the games, or read any of the books or comics? What makes one a Seeker in the Aligned Continuity is their having been called a Seeker. All of the individuals listed under the aligned continuity section of this page are Seekers because they have been said to be Seekers, regardless of whether they look like Starscream or not. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 09:21, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::::::That appears to be the entire point of the discussion: This article is titled Seeker '''(BODY TYPE)''', so why is a section of it listing non-body-type-sharing Seekers? Something probably needs to change, either the title or the content. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 10:14, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::::::I think this article suffers by trying to be a grab-bag of every instance of "Seeker". Wouldn't it be better to split it up by continuity family? (Have the UT characters even been called Seekers?) [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 10:40, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::::::::::Sabrblade, are you having trouble understanding what I am saying? I only asked who is of the same body-type. I have stopped asking a loooooooooooooong time ago which of the Aligned Seekers are of the Seeker body-type because now I know that Aligned has no body-type called "Seeker." I am watching the Prime cartoon as it is airing. I have done my research and what I ask in this discussion is what I cannot find through this research. The reason that it seems that I am asking stupid questions is that my initial question that started this discussion may have appeared stupid to YOU, so affecting the way you look at any words I say. You have been nothing but condescending. You have shown disrespect to me only for asking what others' opinions are on various subjects. I have not stated any false information while you have. (Not ANY jet-based Aligned DECEPTICONS are Seekers. The Energon Seekers have existed long before the formation of the Decepticons. Not all Seekers joined the Decepticons; some are Autobots. Also, there are MANY non-Seeker jet-based Decepticons who aren't Seekers. -- ALSO, you called something that you didn't know "fanon.") The "hugeness" of your interest for Transformers does not determine the credibility of your information, nor does it justify judgement of "lesser" fans. I am sorry for pointing this out. I only want this discussion to be a friendly debate, not a chance for you to hit down a fellow fan's ideas. I understand that discussion pages are not for personal subjects but this is an exception that needed to be make this talk a more insightful one. --[[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 17:03, 19 September 2013 (EDT)
::::::::::::::::::::::::KilMichaelMcC, I understand what you mean. Even though the body-type of Aligned Starscream isn't called "Seeker," we should try to only list Transformers of the same body-type as Starscream in the Aligned section. Then, maybe, we could have a separate page for the Energon Seekers (team) composed of those jet-based Transformers who look for Energon. --[[User:Leo1452|King Kid]] 17:11, 19 September 2013 (EDT)