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LightningStudios: added link to tailpipe (disambiguation)

{{disambigr|Lugnuts|the Decepticon from ''Cybertron''|Lugnutz}}

Because most Transformers fiction is aimed at kids, and most Transformers don't have organic squishy bits, the fiction has introduced a lot of '''anatomic euphemisms''' for assorted bits of human anatomy, especially the one you sit on. Most are real mechanical or electronic terms, and also presumably real parts of [[:Category:Transformer anatomy|Transformer anatomy]]. A few are ''also'' the ''names'' of Transformers. This is probably akin to being named {{w|Dick Trickle}} or {{w|Alfred Mosher Butts|Alfred Butts}}.

==Actuator==
"Blow it out your actuator, [[Blitzwing (Animated)|three-face]]."
:—'''[[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]]''', "[[Transform and Roll Out]]", ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated cartoon]]''

"Collaborate, my actuator!"
:—'''[[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]]''', "[[Decepticon Air]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"You're tickling my actuators!"
:—'''[[Fixit (RID)|Fixit]]''', "[[Brainpower]]", ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' cartoon

==Afterburner==
"Now, let's kick afterburners!"
:—'''[[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]]''', "[[Aerial Assault]]", [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''The Transformers'' cartoon]]

"Say uncle, or I'll shove your nose in your afterburner!"
:—'''[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]''', "[[City of Steel (episode)|City of Steel]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"Kiss your afterburners goodbye, [[Decepticon]] slime!!"
:—'''[[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]]''', "[[The Rebirth, Part 3]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"If I take out Optimus Prime, even Starscream's gonna have to kiss my afterburners."
:—'''[[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]''', ''unknown episode'', [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|''Cybertron'' cartoon]]

''See also [[Afterburner (disambiguation)|any of the characters named Afterburner]].''

==Asynchronous transfer adapter==
"Aww! My asynchronous transfer adapter is killing me."
:—'''[[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]]''' as he rubbed his back, "[[Destructive Power]]", [[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|''Energon'' cartoon]]

==Bearing==
"[[Dinobot (BW)|This guy]]'s got bearings of chrome steel."
:—'''[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]''', "[[Beast Wars (Part 1)]]", ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars cartoon]]''

"I can't believe that [[Grimlock (G1)|dino-dummy]] has got the bearings to show his backstabbing mug around here."
:—'''[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]''', "[[New World Order]]", [[Transformers: Generation 1 (Dreamwave)|Generation 1 comic]]

"What if there was ''one [[Insignia|badge]]'' for ''all of us''? And instead of fighting each other, we attack those that put us here... and we take what is ours! Would ''you'' have the ''bearings'' for that?"
:—'''[[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]],''' [[Megatron Origin issue 3|''Megatron Origin'' #3]]

"Starscream's the kind that would kill you in your sleep. At least Megatron has the ball bearings to do it to your face."
:—'''[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]''', ''[[Transformers Autobots/Decepticons|Transformers The Game]]''

"Pretty big bearings. For a human..."
:—'''[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]]''' on Agent Fowler, "[[Darkness Rising, Part 2]]", [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|''Prime'' cartoon]]

==Boron compressor==
"We were brilliant in battle, Megatron. The [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] overwhelmed us with sheer brute force!" 
"Brilliant, my boron compressor!"
:—'''[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]''' and '''[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]''', "[[War of the Dinobots]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

==Bumper==
"My bumper! Look at what you did to my poor bumper!"
:—Unseen transformer, "[[Moving Violations]]", ''[[Transformers Timelines]]''

''See also [[Bumper (disambiguation)|Bumper]].''

==Can==
"You know where to find Decepticon mines?" 
"You didn't think I've just been sitting on my can since I've been on this rock?"
:—'''[[Miko Nakadai|Miko]]''' and '''[[Wheeljack (Prime)|Wheeljack]]''', "[[Hurt]]", [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|''Prime'' cartoon]]

==Clutch==
"Look out the clutch-munching window!"
:—'''[[Rook (Universe)|Rook]]''', "[[Derailment]]", "[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]"

==Command module==
"Stick it in your command module, [[Tarantulas (BW)|eight-eyes]]."
:—'''[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]]''', "[[Power Surge (episode)|Power Surge]]", ''Beast Wars'' cartoon

==Crankcase==
"Sorry about yankin' your crankcase."
:—'''[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]]''', "[[Total Meltdown]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

''See also [[Crankcase (disambiguation)|Crankcase]].''

==Diode==
"Aw, go ding your diodes and get defunct, Megatron. I'm not helping you do zilch."
:—'''[[Gears (G1)|Gears]]''', "[[Changing Gears]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"Me Grimlock here again, Optimus Prime, to pull your diodes out of laser fire."
:—'''[[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]]''', "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"[[Chumley]], you're one royal pain in the diode."
:—'''[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]''', "[[Prime Target (episode)|Prime Target]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"I'll rip you to pieces with my ''bare claws,'' tear out your [[Circuit (circuit)|circuits]] with my ''teeth,'' and spit your diodes ''back'' at you!"
:—'''[[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]''' (hopefully using a different definition of "diodes") to [[Unicron]], "[[On the Edge of Extinction!]]", [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel ''The Transformers'' comic]]

"Those bureaucratobots couldn't find their own diodes with a bitmap and a homing beacon."
:—'''[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]''' talks behind the council's back, "[[Decepticon Air]]", ''Animated'' cartoon.

"Have you blown a diode?! I'm trying to work here!!"
:—'''[[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]]''', "[[Endgame, Part I]]", ''Animated'' cartoon.

==Engine block==
"Woah, somebody's got a huge chip on his engine block"
:—'''[[Bulkhead (Animated)|Bulkhead]]''' to [[Dirt Boss (Animated)|Dirt Boss]], "[[Three's a Crowd (episode)|Three's a Crowd]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

==Exhaust port==
"Tell Megatron to blow it out his exhaust port. We're having a demolition derby."
:—'''[[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]]''' mouthing off, "[[Starscream's Brigade]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"Nothing, my exhaust port."
:—'''[[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]''', "[[Mercenary Pursuits]]", [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Machines'' cartoon]]

"Have [[Bumblebee (Animated)|you]] got your processor up your exhaust port?"
:—'''[[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]]''', "[[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"You overgrown Autobot! I will scramble your circuits so bad you'll need a GPS scanner to find your own exhaust port—"
:—'''[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Hothead Blitzwing]]''' to [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]], "[[A Bridge Too Close, Part II]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"Suck. My. Exhaust. Pipe."
:—'''[[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]]''' to [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]], "[[At the Last Second]]", ''[[Transformers: Titans Return (cartoon)|Titans Return]]'' cartoon

==Fan belt==
"[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus]]! [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Elita-1]]! Get your fan belts in gear!"
:—'''[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]''', "[[Along Came a Spider]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

==Fuel pump==
"[[Scrounge (G1)|Scrounge]] wasn't much of a warrior, but he had a fuel pump as big as a planet."
:—'''[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]''', "[[Crater Critters]]", Marvel ''The Transformers'' comic

==Gearbox==
"What's with you two? ''[Gestures toward pants area.]'' Is my gearbox hangin' out or somethin'?"
:—'''Rattrap''', "[[Aftermath (BW episode)|Aftermath]]", ''Beast Wars'' cartoon

==Hard drive==
"So, [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]], take your order, ''and'' your condescending attitude, and stick 'em in your hard drive! You're on ''my'' turf now!"
:—'''[[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]]''', "[[The Elite Guard]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

==Joystick==
"They're on my tail!" 
"Oh, [[Cheetor (BW)|pussycat]], you really know how to tickle my joystick."
:—'''[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]''' and '''[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]]''', "[[Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)]]", ''Beast Wars'' cartoon

==Lubricant==
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"Leaking lubricants!"
:—'''[[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]]''', "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"[[Mojo|He]]'s leaked lubricants all over my foot!"
:—'''[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]''', ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' film

"[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]! Stop lubricating [[Seymour Simmons|the man]]!"
:—'''[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]''', ''Transformers'' film

==Lugnuts==
"The other equipment has been salvaged, but you took the [[Vok|alien]] [[Transmetal driver]]. Where is it?" 
"Gone. Ain't that a kick in the lugnuts?"
:—'''[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]''' and '''[[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]]''', "[[Feral Scream Part 2]]", ''Beast Wars'' cartoon

''See also [[Lugnut (disambiguation)|Lugnut]].''

==Magna fuses==
"Kiss your magna fuses goodbye, Autobots!"
:—'''Megatron''', "[[Fire on the Mountain (episode)|Fire on the Mountain]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

==Manifold==
"I've got the plan, if all of you've got the cast-iron manifolds for it."
:—'''[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]''', "[[The Ultimate Doom, Part 1]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"I don't like the idea of Megatron getting the [[antimatter]] formula. He can't be trusted!" 
"Sure can't, manifold-mouth!"
:—'''Starscream''' and '''[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]]''', "[[Roll for It]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"We should have been allies, you know. Imagine what we could have accomplished. But you never had the manifolds to do what needed to be done." 
"I have the manifolds to stand up for those who cannot stand for themselves."
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus Prime''', ''[[Transformers: Devastation]]''

==Motherboard==
"Let's go kick their motherboards."
:—'''[[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari Sumdac]]''', "[[Lost and Found (episode)|Lost and Found]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"Scruples? You'd sell your own motherboard to the highest bidder."
:—'''[[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]]''' sums up [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]], "[[SUV: Society of Ultimate Villainy]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"[[Bumblebee (Animated)|You]], sound-off. Why do you want to be here?" 
"To be an Elite Guard warrior and kick Decepticon [[#Skidplate|skidplate]], sir!" 
"You couldn't kick my motherboard if I held it in front of your foot."
:—'''[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Minor]]''', "[[Autoboot Camp]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"You're a few microchips short of a motherboard."
:—'''[[Rook (Universe)|Rook]]''', "[[Derailment]]", ''Beast Wars: Uprising''

==Nodes==
"Way to go, numb nodes!"
:—'''[[Wasp]]''', "[[Autoboot Camp]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"Put me down you [[Jetfire (Animated)|numb]] [[Jetstorm (Animated)|nodes]]!"
:—'''[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]''', "[[Predacons Rising (Animated)|Predacons Rising]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

==Piston==
"Give me that or I'll pulverize your pistons!"
:—'''[[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]]''', "[[Megatron Rising - Part 1]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"Don't just stand around with your pistons in your servos!"
:—'''[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]''', "[[Predacons Rising (Animated)|Predacons Rising]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"They've been the biggest pumping pistons in the galaxy since before I was spat into this world."
:—'''[[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]''', "[[Cultural Appropriation]]", ''Beast Wars: Uprising''

==Piston rod==
"We wanted to ''thank'' you for all that extra ''punishment,'' piston rod!"
:—'''[[Wasp]]''', "[[Autoboot Camp]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

==Poppet valve==
"If '''that's''' how you want to play this... ...which one of you '''poppet valves''' is '''next'''?"
:—'''[[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]]''', "[[Devisive]]",''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'' comic

"It's about time I get a '''rematch''' with these '''poppet valves'''."
:—'''[[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]]''', "[[Second Exodus]]",''The Transformers: Robots in Disguise'' comic

==Reactor linkage==
"I repeat, Decepticons—surrender, or face the consequences!" 
"Yeah, and we repeat—''go stuff it up your reactor linkage!''"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''[[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]]''', "[[The Resurrection Gambit!]]", Marvel ''The Transformers'' comic

==Skidplate==
"Yeah? And you can just [[kiss]] my skidplate, [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|fearless leader]]. 'Cause I ain't goin' out there and gettin' ''my'' pelt punctured!"
:—'''Rattrap''',<ref>We sure do get a lot of these from Rattrap, don't we?</ref> "[[Beast Wars (Part 1)]]", ''Beast Wars'' cartoon

"You know me, I can't resist the upgrades." 
"And you know me, Masterson. I can't resist kicking your skidplate!"
:—'''[[Headmaster (Animated)|Headmaster]]''' and '''Optimus Prime''', "[[The Return of the Headmaster]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

==Solenoid==
"That's 'cause we kicked their sorry solenoids!"
:—'''[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]''', "[[The Elite Guard]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"The [[Elite Guard]] has done nothing but bust our solenoids since they got here!"
:—'''Bumblebee''', "[[Mission Accomplished]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

==Sparkplug(s)==
"The Arctic? Great. Another chance to freeze our sparkplugs off."
:—'''[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]]''', "[[Out of His Head]]", ''Prime'' cartoon

==Sprocket==
"Blow it out your sprocket, '''<nowiki>'Chosen One.'</nowiki>'''"
:—'''[[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]]''', "[[City on Fire]]", ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]''

''See also [[Sprocket (G1)]].''

==Strut==
"Strutless cowards!"
:—'''[[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]]''', [[Infiltration issue 6|''Infiltration'' #6]]

"Strutless fool. She's nothing."
:—'''[[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]]''', [[Spotlight: Arcee]]

==Tailgate==
"Let's kick tailgate!"
:—'''[[Rumble (G1)|one]]''' '''[[Frenzy (G1)|of]]''' '''[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave's]]''' '''[[FIRRIB|cassettes]]''', ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''

''See also [[Tailgate (disambiguation)]].''

==Tailpipe==
"Now they've got their tailpipes between their legs!"
:—'''[[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]''', "[[Quest for Survival]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"Hey, if [[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|you]] took that broomstick out of your tailpipe every once in a while, you might have some ''fun'' for a change!"
:—'''Rattrap''', "[[The Agenda (Part 1)]]", ''Beast Wars'' cartoon

"Whoa! What crawled up ''[[Ratchet (Animated)|your]]'' tailpipe?"
:—'''Bumblebee''', "[[The Thrill of the Hunt]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"Come back here so that I can pull your pistons out through ''[[Autobot|your]]'' tailpipes!"
:—'''Hothead Blitzwing''', "[[Sari, No One's Home]]", ''Animated'' cartoon

"What crawled up his tailpipe and died?"
:—'''Miko''', "[[Regeneration (Prime)|Regeneration]]", ''Transformers: Prime'' cartoon

''See also [[Tailpipe (disambiguation)]].''

==Thruster==
"Fine. Whatever makes you a happy Decepticon. Just watch your rear thruster."
:—'''Rodimus Prime''', "[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

==Transistor==
"If you guys don't give me my circuit back, I'm gonna start kickin' transistor!"
:—'''Gears''', "Changing Gears", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

"We are in deep transistor parts!"
:—'''[[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]]''', "[[Day of the Machines]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

==Turbocharger==
"I'm goin', too. I'm gonna boot some Decepticon right in his turbocharger."
:—'''[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]''', "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]", ''The Transformers'' cartoon

==Vent==
"Cram it in your vent, ya '''[[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|psychopath]]'''!"
:—'''[[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]]''', [[Megatron Origin issue 3|''Megatron Origin'' #3]]

==Waste-disposal unit==
"Waspinator find [[Tarantulas (BW)|Spider-bot]] and tear him a new waste-disposal unit!"
:—'''[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]''', "[[Other Voices, Part 1]]", ''Beast Wars'' cartoon

==References==
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Talk:Overlord (G1)

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== Overlord vs. Gigatron ==
Is Gigatron really a different character than Overlord, or is it just another instance of two seperate names for the same Transformer? [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 21:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
:Dreamwave's MTMTE guide went on to characterise him as an ancient mechanoid who first conceived the Powermaster process, so I'd say yes. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

::Raising the inevitable question- is Gigatron UK Overlord, or are Gigatron, Overlord (UK) and VOerlord (MF) all 3 seperate characters? (Overlord (UK) is certainly not Overlord (MF), he's not even a Powermaster!) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:55, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
:::This is a question I choose not to answer! :D (Although one might theorise that Overlord UK is the post-MF fully robotic Overlord Transtector.) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

:Dreamwave also had Dai Atlas and Deathsaurus as ancient TF's. And it has Sunstorm (who is not generally a clone) as a clone, along with a bunch of other non-clones like Ricochet and Monacle. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:03, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
::Mmn, but at the same time, they didn't change their names. "Same body, same names, different setting" would equal "alternate version of same character," moreso than "different name, different setting, same body" would. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 22:04, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

:::Isn't there also a UK comic character called Overlord? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
::::Yah, from "State Games," I think. But IIRC, that was a title ("The Overlord") rather than the bloke's actual NAME, for what that's worth. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 22:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

:::::Last of The Overlords, who had once ruled Cybertron. I construed the ovelords were reponsible for the city-state clustering, having foudned them as personal power bases before dying off of old age... but there's nothign int he story itself to support that. They were a source of stability on Cybertronw hile they held power. After they died, planetary war broke otu almost imemdiately and never really ended. One cour argue this indicates TF's, which have a sort of inherited monarchy system, were not culturally ready for self-rule.-[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

::Going by that logic, Derik, then every different G1 continuity should be completely removed from all the others as far as characters go. Skyfire and Jetfire (his Marvel version, anyway) are obviously the same character, yet their origins are just as different as Dreamwave's interpretations of Sunstorm and Gigatron/Overlord. And as I recall, this same discussion came up regarding Stepper/Ricochet. To me, it seems like we really need some solid criteria for deciding when an American name of a Japanese character makes it a new character, and when it's merely the difference between Prime and Convoy. Especially because expecting a new G1 continuity to be exactly the same as an old one is just ridiculous. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 11:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

:::The point of me bringing up Sunstorm (whi in other continuities is NOT a clone) was to say "Dreamwave did somethigtn funky- but that does nto necessarily mean he's not one of the other Overlords." -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:15, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

::::Well, I've gussied up the section to make the question a bit more open. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:22, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Gingatron apparently take his QUOOTE from the UK Overlord, but his bio from his Japanese bio. (which wasn't much like wh was on the show, but there uyou go, that's why Gigatron's bio soudns so wierd.)

Based on '''that''' are we thinkign that Gigatron == Overlord UK == Overlord JP? They have to be at different points in his life-- energon figures are clearly '''not''' Powermasters or Godmasters, but are we confident in sayign hese 3 characters are in fact 1 character? -21:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

:In different timelines/dimensions, sure. Jsut as how, as noted, Sunstorm can be a generic trooper, a super-powered clone, or a minion of Megazarak all at once. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:56, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

:Hmn, y'know, you're right. I don't know WHY I thought it was based on his UK bio... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 23:00, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

:: Well, if you compare: [http://members.aol.com/regenesis0/overlord.jpg Overlord's spec], [http://groups.google.com/group/rec.toys.transformers.moderated/msg/eea8dc38822feee0?hl=en& Godmaster Ovalrolled's spec], and [http://www.bwtf.com/pvc/hoc/techspecs/gigatronback.jpg Gigatron's epec]

:: You see all 3 actally cotain similar language, refering to the weapons plant in him.

::So, if we assume the Dreamweave continutiy refers to Hic Gigatron (And I think it does, because we know they had plans for Gigatron from itnerviews) Then we have 3 warring interpetations of the character:
* Dreamwave: Ancient Transformer who made initial forays into what would (when later perfected by the Autobots on Nebulos) be known as Powermaster techology. Developed the technology for the original Decepticon push towards space. Powermaster.
* UK: Legendy Transformer who emerges from the shadows to wasge a one-man-war, with a promise of a full-scale invasion if he secures a beachhead. Armed with something similar to Powermaster technolgoy (dependign on what you think Energon figures are, they have to be power-related)
* Japanese: Undersea monster not seen until Masterforce's present, may have existed for centuries, but did not (based on all evidence) exist on Cybertron, or have a history there.

::All 3 share elements of their tech-specs,t he weapons refinery. Two share quotes, 1 lacks a quote. They are Powermaster, Energon-figure and Godmaster.

::I'm sayign 3 aspects of 1 character, with the MF version being odd-man-out because it lacks any real 'history' prior to MF.
::And while the HoC Gigatron's conflict with PM Optimus was probably a ''reference;; to Masterforce, I thin had Dreamwave made it allt he way to Nebulos, Gigatron would have shown up there. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Is there any canonical material linking HOC Gigatron to Dreamwave Gigatron? All DW ever officially published about Gigatron was his name and his anciently-powerfulness. No physical description, no image. James McDonaugh and Adam Patyk had said in some interview somewhere that they wanted Gigatron to be Overlord after all--but that development was never published. So does it count? If we start kowtowing to unpublished non-canonical material, don't we plummet into 'Dark Glass' territory?

My point is that given the Lioconvoy --> Leo Prime business, I think there is clear precedence to turn Overlord into Gigatron, and the DW published canonical material that gave Gigatron a different backstory never linked Gigatron to being Overlord in any way, shape, or form.

: Again, though, there are TONS of instances of characters who are portrayed wildly different in different continuities. Take Marvel Grimlock vs. Cartoon Grimlock. Or Shockwave. Or Blaster. Hell, in Dreamwave's continuity, Scourge and Cyclonus are completely different robots rather than being reformatted from the seekers or the Insecticons. Should they get different pages, too? It's quite clear that Overlord and Gigatron are meant to be the same character, even if they were portrayed differently in different continuities. The same holds true for Leo Prime and Lio Convoy. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 08:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

I like the way this is done now with the UK story info from his bio IN the fiction section. A LOT of the toy bios actually have STORY in them when you come down to it and I don't think that story should be ignored or marginalized just cause of it's location. It's still Story and it is still something these entries should inform folks about. I think when warented Tech Spec story deserves its own entry in the Fiction catagory, such as it is here.

:Sign your goddamn posts bitch. If you can't b bothered to sign in, do it manually. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 03:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

== Combined Jet Mode ==

This is the first I've heard about it, and I can't seem to find any pictures. Anyone got any info on when this mode was used and/or pictures they can put up of the mode? --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 21:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
:I often wondered that myself. I finally found the answer [http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/masterforce-overlord-s-alternate-large-jet-mode-what-is-it-t60019s300.php here] - basically, attach the tank halves to the jet mode. That's all.--[[User:Cyberman|Cyberman]] 07:33, 9 August 2010 (EDT)

== Euro Overlord bio - dimension crossing ==

Is that the first official reference to what we now know as the TF multiverse? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:35, 30 August 2009 (EDT)

==Overlord (G1) vs Overlord (Masterforce)==

Let me preface this by saying that I think the whole 'disambig by franchise' for the Japanese G1 series is very silly and I don't like it. That said, just because this guy LATER shows up in a G1 series doesn't mean that his franchise of origin isn't Masterforce, right? So shouldn't he stay at Overlord (Masterforce), as much as I'm not keen? Or am I overthinking this? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:41, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:I suppose if we were being literal about it, yes. But I feel that it's just a dishonest descriptor - "Overlord (Masterforce)" is a lifeless robot controlled by two human begins, which could not be farther from what the other Overlords/Gigatrons are. "G1" just seems to encapsulate the variant version fo the character better.
:(I am, incidentally, ''really, really not happy about this'', as a result of my closeness with Masterforce, and godamimt, I just really want this to go to G1, so ''bloody well just let it stay there guys for god's sake I am a cauldron of rage'' . I shook Nick Roche vigorously when I found out about this at Auto Assembly to get him to call the character "Gigatron", but it was not to be. And I know you're grinning out there, Derik, stop it!) - }[[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 18:52, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:::''But I feel that it's just a dishonest descriptor - "Overlord (Masterforce)" is a lifeless robot controlled by two human begins, which could not be farther from what the other Overlords/Gigatrons are.''
::In which case, '''why are they on the same frigging page'''?! Have an <nowiki>[[Overlord (G1)]]</nowiki> (neé Gigatron) *and* an [[Overlord (Masterforce)]] if need be, but keep them separate. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 19:28, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:::I...! Well.... that.... I... like the way you think! Hmn! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:30, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
:::Technically, there could be up to seven separate character pages. The only real question is which pages should be combined.
:::#Giga
:::#Mega
:::#Overlord—Giga and Mega's lifeless (multi-component) transtector.
:::#Overlord—post-human Overlord #3 after getting a life of his own.
:::#Overlord—the European toy that features two [[Energon figure]]s.
:::#Gigatron—the Powermaster.
:::#Overlord—the IDW Transformer.
:::For the other Masterforce characters, their human component, lifeless transtector, and post-human living transtector all share the same page. Overlord has his two human components separated out. #5 is loosely connected to #4 due to a cryptic reference to dimension-hopping in #5's bio. #6 is loosely tied to #5 by virtue of looking alike and having a weapons factory in their bodies but the mechanics of their gimmicks are different and have different names. That means #4 is loosely connected to #6 because they are both loosely connected to #5. #7 is presumably going to be a completely re-invented homage of... somebody. If it were me, because the whole mess is so complicated I would probably have all seven pages. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:09, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
::::Well, on 3 & 4, we separate Teletran-1 and [[Omega Supreme (Animated)]]... - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 22:42, 14 September 2009 (EDT)
::::Thus, you see, the reason I just put them all on one page - becuase there's so many variant versions, a lot of which don't really have anything to do with one another beyond looking the same and having the same name, but the lines between which are blurred ''just'' enough to make it an issue of debate, that it's just *easier*. Much as it rankles me, I think this is the simplest, smoothest way of relating the information. But so far as this notion goes, I'd just put 3-4 on the "Masterforce" page, and 5-8 on a "G1" page. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 08:10, 15 September 2009 (EDT)
:::::I see the problem. Due to dimension hopping, #5 could actually ''be'' the same character as #4. #7 is a G1 character but probably a re-imaged version of #3 and/or #4 with an ordinary backstory instead of once being two humans. So I agree it is least confusing to have them all on one page. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:29, 28 January 2010 (EST)

==Overlord (G1) vs Overlord (Masterforce) revisited==
OK, clearly, I'm not the only person who has a hard time wrapping their brain around this whole franchise-thing. I've been dwelling on it a bit and I think the issue is this - we have only one article per character per continuity family. So, that being the case, why on Earth are we disambiguating down to the franchise (i.e. the logo associated with it) level?

Let's really examine this. Shattered Expectations came out BEFORE Shattered Glass, so shouldn't ANY SG character who appeared there go by the Transformers Collector's Club disambiguation instead? There's no SG logo or insignia anywhere on that fiction. Also, wouldn't characters who appear first in the Transformers / G.I. Joe crossover books belong in THAT 'franchise'? It seems to me that we're adding in a whole extra level of complexity for no good reason that I can think of.

Well, that's not quite true. The Unicron Trilogy was lousy with repeat names for different characters. This was, and still is, a relatively rare situation for most other continuity families. We can get the maximum benefit, though by disambiguating to the continuity family level as a default and going by franchise when necessary. And, if two articles from the same franchise have the same name, then we can disambiguate further.

Every time I see a character who was introduced in RotF having that label, even though the whole movie-verse is one big universe, it just seems incredibly silly.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 03:01, 15 December 2009 (EST)

:Especially now that he's appearing in [[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]], I too throw in my vote for a move to Overlord (G1). -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 14:37, 26 January 2010 (EST)

:Even if we disambiguated at the continuity family level, there's [[Overlord (G.I. Joe)|another Overlord in G1]], so in this case I'm thinking neither would get the G1 disambig anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:58, 26 January 2010 (EST)
::Given that he's a G.I. Joe character, I don't think he really counts. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:06, 26 January 2010 (EST)
:::<s>It does still count, actually. Basically, there's two things with the same name in G1, thus they need to get disambiguated a different way.</s> Actually, no, you might be right, I forgot about [[Crankcase (disambiguation)]] off the top of my head. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:11, 26 January 2010 (EST)

:::Yeah, Transformers should always get dibs on "good suffixes" over non-Transformers. As for Overlord.... look, the whole reason he's in this comic at all is that TF fans like him, because he IS an "old-time" Japanese G1 character. This story is going to be his most widely-exposed fictional medium, and I am fairly confident when I say that I'm not expecting to see any organic humanoid drivers show up. The uniquely Masterforce storyline elements no longer really apply; the character role is all that matters. So I think he ought to be Overlord (G1). --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:15, 26 January 2010 (EST)
::::And really, if we disambig'd the same character in different continuities of the same continuity family, we'd be splitting up a lot more pages than just this; Scorponok comes to mind most readily as being in roughly the same situation as Overlord. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 15:19, 26 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Why is it that people have an immense problem with giving Japanese G1 characters their franchise of origin (which has always been our rule) as disambiguations while characters in ''Beast Wars II'', ''Beast Wars Neo'', ''Beast Machines'', and ''Return of the Fallen'' all get their respective franchises without a complaint? As for him appearing in a IDW comic: So what? Why should we move articles based on the flavor of the month? We've adhered steadfastly to the "franchise of origin" rule ([[Sideways (RID)]] being a prime example) and you want to break it because some IDW miniseries is imaginatively "going to be his most widely-exposed fictional medium"? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:38, 26 January 2010 (EST)
::::::Actually, I ''did'' think (and still think, for that matter) that giving characters ROTF disambigs was really silly because the movies are all a single continuity/storyline, but I got voted down on that one. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:14, 26 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::Franchise of origin is a terrible way to disambiguate someone, precisely because of the problems above. Disambiguation should be by the largest set appropriate. If a character, object, item, concept, place, or whatever has a unique name, no disambiguation is used. If there's more than one name but only one of the name shows up in a continuity family, then that's how we should disambiguate. If there's more than one name per continuity family but only one of a name shows up in a franchise, we should use that. If there's more than one name per franchise, then we should further sub-divide. Otherwise we are conveying mis-information. This all got started because of rampant reuse of minicon names in the UT ... there's no reason that to infect ROTF and G1 and whatnot. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 21:53, 26 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::Seems to me that problems with general policy should be taken up in the community portal discussion. UT Mini-Cons are not the only example of massive name reuse within a continuity family—you completely ignore the Beast Era and G2 being part of the G1 continuity family. Your proposed system of disambiguation would require us to move every single G1 character whose name got reused in either one, since "G1" would be taken to mean the continuity family and not the actual franchise. Are you okay with "Megatron (original G1 Decepticon leader)", since BW Megatron is of the G1 continuity family as well? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 22:17, 26 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::Perhaps the discussion should be moved. But I'll point out that, in your example, the guy we currently call Megatron (G1) would default to Franchise, which for G1 we've always taken to be .... G1. So he'd remain Megatron (G1), and the guy we call Megatron (BW) would remain Megatron (BW). I'm sure you CAN find a bad example. (That G1 is both a Franchise and a continuity family is clumsy, but there you have it.) All that would happen is all the ROC and Masterforce and Headmaster disambiguations would mostly default to G1, which is IMO a good thing. It'd mean some work on the ROTF disambiguations, but it's much better to do the work NOW, before it gets too big, than later.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 22:49, 26 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::"Megatron (G1)" would become ambiguous. Someone at the Megatron (G1) page could reasonably assume he was the only Megatron for the whole continuity family. I would suggest "Megatron (G1 franchise)". The continuity family for the movie-verse is currently [[live-action film series]]. So what would the disambiguation be? My opinion is that disambiguation by franchise isn't broke so don't try to fix it. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:02, 26 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::Jim, but wouldn't you be "conveying misinformation" by implying "Megatron (G1)" is the only Megatron in the G1 continuity family? And logically, we would have to move characters like [[Cheetor (BW)]] and [[Randy (BW)]] to "Cheetor (G1)" and "Randy (G1)". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:12, 26 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::Yes, that's what we'd need to do for Cheetor and Randy and whatnot, and I think it'd be for the better. And the G1 franchise / continuity family is an odd case but not one that I think anyone will find especially confusing.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 00:47, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::I don't think I could possibly agree with this any less. This seems like an absolutely ridiculous amount of work for zero benefit whatsoever and a large number of detriments. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:49, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::Yeah, that's what we said three years ago when we changed things from what you suggest to what we have now. "Hot Shot (UT)" used to be a page location! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:52, 26 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::Why ever did you change it? Hot Shot (UT) is both more intuitive and more accurate than Hot Shot (Armada). (I know, I know, assloads of mini-cons, but again, it seems like a shame to hold the whole brand hostage to those corner cases.)--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 00:57, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::Because it was more useful and more informative to use the franchise-of-origin, rather than the more-obscure continuity family names. I see no reason to change it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::More useful how? Informative I'll grant, in that it conveys more information, but I'd contend that that's not the purpose of a disambiguation note. I mean, if that REALLY was the TRUE purpose, we'd put the franchise of origin as part of EVERY article's name, whether we need a disambiguation note or not.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 01:09, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::There are 2 different UT Ironhides, Prowls, Checkpoints, Cliffjumpers, Infernos, Thrusts, Sunstorms, Smokescreens, Knock Outs, Wreckages, Backstops, Armorhides, Blurrs, Laserbeaks... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:45, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::Correct, so those guys would go down to the franchise level ... and the literally hundreds of guys who DON'T have two incarnations per continuity family wouldn't.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:06, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::::I'm with Jim, disambiguate by largest available grouping. The ONLY problem with this system is that G1 is a franchise and a continuity family, and that should really be changed. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::::Maybe the continuity family stays (G1) and the original franchise becomes (TF) since it WAS just called Transformers and the term G1 was a later creation?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:47, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::::::That would be good except there are later G1 characters introduced as part of an actual "Generation 1" franchise and not simply "Transformers". - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:10, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::::::That's ... surprisingly not terrible. And Starfield, ARE there characters introduced as part of an actual "Generation 1" franchise? I don't recall seeing a "Generation 1" logo anywhere.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:17, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::::I see Jim's point. That is how the wiki itself is organized. Characters are grouped by continuity family. However, "continuity family" is a concept sorta made up by the wiki. It would probably be better to disambiguate by something more concrete. Plus I think Jim is underestimating the amount of tear-up. And the system isn't broken right now. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:10, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::::::I think it's more broken than people think. The fact that these debates come up time and time again (Overlord, The Swarm, the whole ROTF thing) means that a LOT of our contributors don't really get the franchise of origin thing. All of those cases are theoretically really straightforward with our current system, and yet a LOT of people are uncomfortable with them. The root cause for this discomfort is the disconnect between how we disambiguate and how we organize. And "continuity family" isn't entirely made up by us, it's acknowledged by several official sources including the Transtech stories, the AllSpark Almanac and Alternity.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:16, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::::::Er, calling anything (TF) is a terrible idea, as I can see it confusing the heck out of non-editors and new folks not very familiar with our scheme. Plus, what would it mean for IDW and Dreamwave-only characters? Even the really obscure Primax identifier would be better than that.
::::::::::::::::::And, uh. Considering that the original universal stream references in TransTech were written into the stories by wiki editors, the continuity family idea '''is''' essentially completely made up by us. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:56, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::::::::Well, so what? It's not '''USED''' only by us, there is actual official Transformers fiction that acknowledges it. Who cares where the idea comes from? I'm not looking to debate semantics here, but to actually understand the logic behind the current system and just possibly see if a different approach might work better. Starfield's point was that the continuity family idea is not concrete, in universe, and I was showing that that's incorrect.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:02, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::::::::Again, since the concept is, AFAIK, only used by wiki editors so far other than the Alternity stuff, saying it really means something outside of wiki folks technically isn't all that correct. It's like that situation a while back where a Wikipedia article made something up, a newspaper published the info based solely on the wiki article, and then the wiki article claimed the newspaper article was now a notable reference. I'm not saying it isn't official now anyway, I'm just saying you're kidding yourself if you think the concept really means a whole lot outside of the wiki circle.
::::::::::::::::::::That doesn't mean I don't wish we could disambiguate by continuity family, however, as it doesn't matter whether our categorization scheme has an official basis or not so long as it works for us. But [[Help talk:Disambiguation/Franchise-based vs. Fiction-based|didn't we already decide it didn't seem feasible]]?
::::::::::::::::::::Or is this a different enough case that someone should make a new sandbox to figure out exactly what changes would result and whether it would work better? I actually don't think the Beast Wars stuff would be a problem, as we treat "Beast Era" as a continuity family anyway, but that still leaves G2 up in the air. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:48, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::::::::::I think you've just hit on the heart of the problem. In some cases we treat "Beast Era" as a continuity family and in others as simply a part of the larger "G1" continuity family. Perhaps we should formalize this. Make "Beast Era" a separate thing, leave the rest of the "G1" continuity family at "G1", and state that the two are part of a larger "Primax" cluster. The Primax designation would NOT be used in disambigs. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:25, 27 January 2010 (EST) PS As I biologist I am seeing a parallel here with the cladistics/systematics debate in taxonomy.
Side note:
:"Let's really examine this. Shattered Expectations came out BEFORE Shattered Glass, so shouldn't ANY SG character who appeared there go by the Transformers Collector's Club disambiguation instead? There's no SG logo or insignia anywhere on that fiction."
:Er, SE was intended as a part of the SG franchise, so I don't see the issue here. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:27, 26 January 2010 (EST)
::Also, didn't we do it that way to start with and found it too confusing and hard to keep straight? Judicious use of the term "usually" can often improve the functioning of a rule.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:25, 26 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think there's been an enormous amount of words with very little said here. IF the system is by the first franchise they appear in, and not the one we think is going to be the most well known, then this whole issue is moot. Overlord's a guy from Masterforce. The end. All this arguing over semantics is giving me an arse ache. Here's a much bigger issue, why has no American started working on the LSOTW page/character information? Hop to it people. Cause I sure as hell can't yet [[USer:Eire]] 16.44 27 Jan 2010(UTC)
:::::Hey, screw you! I've been working on LSOTW pages nonstop for over 24 hours! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:14, 28 January 2010 (EST)
::::I don't know if I can agree with this ''more''. I'm really not sure what all this jawboning is trying to accomplish. The sheer amount of work for an incredibly vague payoff that applies to so few entries with some of the proposed ramifications of this change being so far from counter-intuitive that I have a hard time believing they were actually seriously proposed... don't we have much better things to do? There's still plenty of FP stuff to wiki! --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:54, 27 January 2010 (EST)

Jim wrote: ''Starfield's point was that the continuity family idea is not concrete, in universe, and I was showing that that's incorrect.''

Okay, so "[[Optimus Prime (G1)]]" moves to "Optimus Prime (Primax)." Where would "Optimus Prime (Worlds Collide)" move to?
While it's '''nice''' to know that there is an in-universe system exactly ''like'' continuity families... our disambigs are currently '''loosely''' tied to continuity-family designations-- an out-fiction concept. If we tied them to an in-fiction concept... not only would we be using a more confusing nonmelementure, the numeber of arguments about who goes where would probably '''tripple''' because having adopted such a system it would logically become imperative that the information it communicates '''be correct''', and there are many characters for whom it's just impossible to say. What's Vector Prime's continuity-of-origin? Are we allowed to make assumptions and best-guesses? ...because we're now '''canonizing''' that guess as '''the name of the article'''.

Disambigs are not supposed to convey information. Because anytime we've seriously considered a system that did-- someone was able to come up with dozens of hundreds of system-breaking examples. '''strictly''' speaking, we sould probably disambiguate "Optimus Prime (1)", "Optimus Prime (2)", except that would be madness, and carries it's own problems involving Prowls and Catgirls.
* The purpose of the disambiguation tag is to keep articles on separate characters '''separate''', not to convey information.
* The purpose of standardizing the tags (within our limited ability to do so) is to make our jobs easier by making them easier to remember, not to make them harder by adopting a complicated system.
* If name-reuse was not rampant in the UT, then UT would probably be the disambig. "(Movie)" '''used''' to refer to the continuity-family. We had to have a long argument (ending in a vote for formal purposes though IIRC there was general agreement) to fully-disambiguate the two movies liek the UT franchises are-- so characters who premiered in ROTF dont' get "(Movie)".
* Discussing how "really the cartoon and comics version of Optimus Prime should be separate articles" is neither relevant nor helpful.
* Pointing out that "[[Transformers (2007)]]" should actually be "Movie (2007)" if we were being consistent is '''wildly''' unhelpful Derik, why are you even bringing it up?
** Oh, it's to point out that the overzealous pursuit of consistency will produce results which are '''incredibly retarded'''. That's '''why''' our standard disambigs are described as "consistently inconsistent", they are only as consistent as makes our lives easier. When doing so would make our jobs harder, they are allowed to remain inconsistent.

I also disagree with Jim's contention that the system is broken because many editors don't understand it, which resulting in arguments every few months. I argue that since editors are able to '''use''' the system despite '''not understanding how it works''', the system is in fact '''super-operative'''.
95% of the time, grasping the broad pattern of how disambigs work is "enough" to work with the system. The '''actual''' rules are ungodly complicated and hinge on a web of shifting precedent. Requiring that casual and new editors ''know'' that system is impractical-- because even experienced editors struggle with and argue over its application in problem-circumstances. In the 5% of cases where the casual editor mis-disambigs a character, it's swiftly corrected with no real "cost." In the .02% of cases where it devolves into a huge argument... '''it was probably going to devolves into a huge argument anyway.'''

I mean-- '''for gods sake'''. We have '''Straxus-Galvatron''' as "Galvatron (G1)," grouped with his cartoon (and Ladybird, and Coloring Books) counterparts, and Megatron-Galvatron as "Galvatron II"-- who is for some reason considered a seperate character, and the Ladybird guys aren't "also him." '''It's a messy, stupid, imperfect system.'''

But trying to impose a less-imperfect system would cause chaos-- because sometimes the disambigs just '''need''' to be that stupid, because the '''reality''' is that stupid or convoluted. No smart or elegant system can possibly hope to cope with the dumb and inelegant knots Transformers sometimes ties for itself.

Frankly, I think 90% of these arguments would go away if we caved and gave characters infoboxes, in which case people would stop looking at the disambigs and defer tot he boxes. But we'd never be able to stick with a '''small''' infobox-- it would inevitably feature-creep into a monstrous creation that would mis-represent anythign which didn't fit into neat little categories.
Transformers just isn't a 'tidy' fiction like that. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:03, 28 January 2010 (EST)
:As usual, Derik brings up some excellent points (he's right about the current system being super-operative) and, as usual, Derik misses some obvious ones (for instance, I'm not saying that the in-universe continuity family concept of primax, aurex, etc be used). That the idea of continuity families has some in universe support is not critical to my proposal. My basic thought process boils down to:
::'''"The wiki is organized by continuity family, with one article per character per continuity family. Disambiguations, ideally, should work the same way when possible." '''
:Everything else is just the nuts and bolts of how to get to this, IMO, highly desirable state. Is Beast Wars a continuity family? In universe, no, for the wiki, it's borderline. I'm really not worried about the work - we have only 10K articles, and a lot of them don't have disambiguations, and the majority of those that DO have disambiguations can be done by scripts. I'll do it by hand if I have to over a weekend.
:So, I think the real question I'm asking is, do other people agree or disagree with the 'mission statement' that I laid out above. If everyone disagrees with it, it's pointless to debate the practical matters of implementation. If people agree with it, we could sandbox out possible solutions and see if they actually work. They may not! But if people disagree with it, then there's no point in trying and I'll bow out gracefully.
:I'm not calling for a vote or anything, really I'm just trying to understand if my own intuition for how things SHOULD be jives with that of other peoples.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:22, 28 January 2010 (EST)
:::Even though the wiki is organized by continuity family, that's not how we should organize names. I don't see why that should be so. Hasbro basically uses every new franchise as an excuse to reuse its stockpile of names, therefore our current way of doing things is more functional. Plus, it's not broken. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:05, 28 January 2010 (EST)
::Why not just go ahead and do a sandbox of various examples? Last time this sort of convo came up, it was a good way to actually explore the idea and come up with more concrete examples of pro and con than just people's tastes. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:00, 28 January 2010 (EST)
::Ideally, yes I agree. However there is much I don't like about the implementation.
::*I don't like "G1" as the name of the continuity family. It leads to weird situations like a G2 original guy being labeled (G1). The continuity family should be the official term (Primax) or something else entirely.
::*What would the [[live-action film series]] disambiguation be? Please don't say "Movie".
::*There are some characters with unknown continuity families. Mostly from Universe 2003 I think.
::*We know how this system works. Questions over who belongs where have pretty much been settled. Even for this article. We all agree that this is where he belongs in the current system (see "Move" section below)—this discussion is whether we should change the system. The new system is somewhat unknown. It is unknown how many characters would have questionable disambiguations. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:05, 28 January 2010 (EST)
::::The system is fine as it is, and does NOT need to change. Even if we decided to move this ONE article, it should ONLY be done with understanding that we are making an EXCEPTION (Because allowing for exceptions where warranrted = A Good Thing!). I honestly don't care one way or the other about this article's title, but if moving this article meeans a system-wide change then I vote NO, NO, A THOUSAND TIMES NO. Also, I find even the suggestion we might start using (Primax) and the like to be absurd. We should be trying to be more friendly to the casual fan base, not less, and even amongst the dedicated fandom there are sure to be many people ''who have no idea what the hell a Primax is''. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:18, 28 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Agreed. Even within the hardest-core fandom, probably almost nobody can recognize on the spot what "Tyran" is supposed to be. It's uninformative. And even if they did..... there's no difference! Replace "G1" with "Primax" and you have the exact same content with just one single-word disambig swapped for another. The in-story fuzziness would very much remain. As a rule--and a rule that I think ought to be a lot firmer than our other, mostly-guideline rules--I am against radical all-across-everything changes on this wiki. Most of the distinctions do make sense as-is.
:::::I realize that I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth, since earlier in this cascade I recommended "Overlord (G1)". I have to keep reminding myself not to say shit like that here. I retract it thus. Leave things as they are. Nothing about Masterforce matters anymore, Overlord's "main" characterization from now on will have nothing to do with it.... but that's a unique case not important enough to justify this-and-that-and-the-other equivalent case that would pop up later. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:32, 28 January 2010 (EST)

OK, thanks to everyone who chimed in here. Since my underlying premise does not seem to be as 'intuitive' or as 'obviously desirable' to others as it is to me, I'll drop this line of inquiry.

I think that there ARE still some underlying oddities, and they mostly center around the use of G1 as both an umbrella franchise and a continuity family. But as much as perhaps THAT conversation didn't belong here, THAT conversation even more so doesn't belong here. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:21, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Move ==
Completely separate from the above discussion about general disambig policy (and the "Star Saber (G1)/Star Saber (Victory)" debate which, amazingly, has not yet broken out there I contend that since Overlord was released, as Overlord, during [[Generation 1 (European toyline)|Europe's original Generation 1 toyline]] (1985-1993) he is a Generation 1 character and should be disambig'd with "(G1)."

Since this unique circumstances AFAIK applies '''only''' to this character, and does not affect the larger debate about how to disambig Japanese G1 characters with mini-franchises... I'd like to call for a simple vote on this matter.

'''Given:'''
* That this article now represents all versions of Overlord/Gigatron in the Generation 1 franchise
* And that '''unlike any other JTF-exclusive character''' Overlord was released as part of the Generation 1 toyline
'''It is proposed:'''
* That "Overlord (Masterforce)" be moved to "Overlord (G1)"

Show of hands. Yea or Nea. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:29, 28 January 2010 (EST)

:No, because his European release was three years after his Japanese release. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:33, 28 January 2010 (EST)
:You may be on to something there. Transformer names are English-centric. If a Transformer has an English name it doesn't matter what name he had first, we use the English name. So if there was a Hasbro release it doesn't matter if the Takara release was first, we go with the Hasbro franchise. Yea. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:43, 28 January 2010 (EST)
:Oh for the love of...Lio Convoy anyone? Anyone remember that little debacle? Just leave well enough alone. [[User:Eire]] 14.44 Jan 28 2010 (UTC)
::Separate from the general debate above? Then no! It's not every continuity the dude appears in, it's the franchise of origin. The franchise of origin is clearly Masterforce. (Though this DOES help prove my point.)--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 09:55, 28 January 2010 (EST)
:::I'm with Jim here. --[[Special:Contributions/76.95.138.170|76.95.138.170]] 10:38, 28 January 2010 (EST) (''Lonegamer78 not logged in'')
::::Ayep. While I'd be amenable to changing to continuity family-based categorization if it's feasible, by our current standards this page does have the right disambiguation.
::::Now, if we were talking splitting the page as at the top of this page due to said several wildly differently portrayed guys being stuck on the same page currently... --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 10:54, 28 January 2010 (EST)

:Absolutely yes. As Derik pointed out, the disambig tags are there for simplicity, not information. Most people, I think, are going to remember Overlord as a European/Japanese *G1* character, and not specifically that his fictional debut was in Masterforce. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 13:26, 28 January 2010 (EST)
::This only proves how stupid using anything along the lines of "notability" is for the disambig. Jesus. Overlord was NOTHING to TF fandom outside of Masterforce for what, 15 years? All of a sudden, one comic and... jeez. Leave well enough the fuck alone. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:42, 28 January 2010 (EST)
:::Yeah, I don't think anyone knew and/or cared that Overlord was also released in Europe for over a decade. He was just that guy controlled by those weird-lookin' dudes that beat the fuck out of God Ginrai. That was the sum of his fictional appearances for forever. "What's most notable" is incredibly fickle, and we should not be making our decisions by it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:56, 28 January 2010 (EST)
::We are not doing the disambig in the interest of providing information. We are doing it because we're consistent with "the franchise of origin" rule. This rule allows us to accommodate name reuses within continuity families. Overlord originated in ''Masterforce''. The end. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:30, 29 January 2010 (EST)

== Featured Article for May? ==
Since Last Stand of the Wreckers ends in May, and this article is more or less complete, perhaps it would be fitting to make it our featured article for the month of May?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:59, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
:I support this idea. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 12:25, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
:Add another '''yea''' vote. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:17, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
:A very good idea. [[User:MrBlud|MrBlud]] 02:40, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:I can hardly disagree! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:15, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:Brilliant. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:27, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:That's a roger.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:53, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:This is a brilliant idea and I see no reason not to go along with it except to be annoying, but I don't feel like being annoying today, so I'll just shut up now. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 11:57, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:If I was allowed, I'd say yes. I'm not so I won't. [[User:Eire]] 18.51 April 10 2010 (UTC)
:Yay! Er, yea. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:43, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

== Gender? ==
Given the caption under the page's main image, would it be worthwhile to give Overlord a "Gender" sub-heading, similar to what [[Airazor (BW)]] has? Super-God Masterforce isn't a continuity area I know anything about, but it seems like a section giving a simple outline of what pronouns to use with which versions of the character might be useful. {{unsigned|Bobcat2022}}
:I think you misunderstand the situation. Overlord always is a male, but the original/japanese incarnation of the character is mentally (see the Godmaster article) the teamwork of husband and wife Giga and Mega. He is male always, but the Mega-side of his original/Japanese character gives it a female edge. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 06:24, 24 December 2010 (EST)
::Saying that I misunderstand the situation is a flatteringly courteous understatement. The gist I get with more reading is that the robot body (Transtector) is male (as much so as any other non-sentient giant robot, anyhow), but it does not become the being known as Overlord until is bonded to two humans, one male (Giga) and one female (Mega). So for pronoun purposes, am I correct to say that Overlord should be referred to with male (he), male/female (he/she), or genderless (it) pronouns, in that order of preference? Would a note to this effect on the main page be amiss? --[[User:Bobcat2022|Bobcat2022]] 17:36, 28 December 2010 (EST)
:::"He" would be the correct way. He speaks with Giga's voice, and appears in all respects to be driven by his personality. The only time I can recall in the cartoon that Mega spoke when they were combined in Overlord was when she needed to do something stereotypically womanly, and even then, they superimposed an image of her head over Overlord, rather than have him mouth her words. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:42, 28 December 2010 (EST)

== BotCon 2012 "Gigatron" instead of "Overlord" ==

Was it ever officially explained why Fun Pub chose to go with the name "Gigatron" instead of "Overlord" (but using that as a title instead of a name) for the BotCon 2012 toy? I ask since that would seem like something worth noting in the Notes section, given how it describes his naming history (as well as that I'm genuinely curious about why they chose that name). --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 21:22, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
: For the same reason the "Heroes of Cybertron" toy was named "Gigatron." Hasbro can't trademark "Overlord." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:28, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
::And what of the comic story? Is Fun Pub obligated to use the toy's name in the fiction? I mean, the Animated Ironfist toy used his "Fisitron" name, but was "Ironfist" in The Stunti-Con Job. And Scorch and Slicer were "Turbomaster" and "Slice" in toy form, but still "Scorch" and "Slicer" in Generation 2: Redux (according to the [[Generation 2: Redux|comic's article]], that is, since I haven't yet read it myself). Could they have still called him "Overlord" in the Invasion Prologue comic if they had wanted to? If so, why the "Gigatron" decision? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 21:47, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

== Transphobic image caption ==

I know this wiki's official policy is that the funny stays and that you shouldn't touch anybody else's captions, but there's been precedent for caption replacement before in the form of Animated Drag Strip's article- where the talk page made a clear point of avoiding transphobic bullshit in the captions. With that said, I can't think of a different caption for the main image that's character appropriate. Can someone please help out with this matter, and get that crap off what is considered a Featured Article? Thanks. [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 09:40, 11 August 2014 (EDT)
: Feel more than welcome to point out shit like that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 09:58, 11 August 2014 (EDT)
:: Thanks for that. There's some other captions that contain attempts at jokes that aren't great, but I don't just want to be somebody who complains about what other people are doing without doing much contribution myself. Mostly stuff like Minerva's "bad touch" captions. Any thoughts about potentially setting a formal "minimum tastefulness" policy instead of coming back to articles months later and changing them case by case? [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] ([[User talk:Sky Shadow|talk]]) 10:30, 11 August 2014 (EDT)

== Classics Gigatron vs Dreamwave Gigatron ==

Just curious, is there a reason why Classics Gigatron is on this page but Dreamwave Gigatron is on the Gigatron page? I'd expect them to both be on the same page, regardless of which one that is, but I'm probably missing something. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 08:01, 5 December 2017 (EST)
:Boy, here's an old one I'd long since forgotten about. I don't even remember what I said further up this page and I think I'd be too embarrassed to go back and look, but I think most of us would agree that things have changed - way back when there was an effort to draw a line through all of Masterforce and put the "Japanese versions" one side and the "Hasbro versions" on the other side, but in the case of Overlord, IDW and Fun Pub have blurred the line so thoroughly that at this point that we should probably just fold the puny little "Gigatron" page into this one entirely... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 09:50, 5 December 2017 (EST)
::I'd mostly agree with you, the only slight complication is that Ask Vector Prime and Beast Wars: Uprising both have a Gigatron that exists in the same universe as an Overlord so those two would theoretically have to remain separate. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 10:11, 5 December 2017 (EST)
:::If you look at the [[Gigatron (G1)]] page, that's what's been done. Everything on that page is about ancient characters that are not the Gigatron/Overlord from "now". It's kind of like the distinction between [[Predaking (COP)]] and [[Predaking (Prime)]]. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 10:26, 5 December 2017 (EST)
::::I get that, Dreamwave Gigatron doesn't have a modern counterpart though. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 10:40, 5 December 2017 (EST)
My thinking in filling out the "Gigatron (G1)" page was that AVP had finally given validation to Powermaster Gigatron being a separate and distinct Hasbro-original counterpart to Godmaster Overlord, and additionally coexisting in the same universe. Now with ''Classics'' Gigatron, that's more ambiguous because he is characterized as "Gigatron, the Overlord". I didn't think I would get any support in moving ''Classics'' Gigatron over, but if you are interested in debating this further, NightViper did share some behind-the-scenes unused story info on the Allspark that the unseen ''Classics'' Overlord was split up into "Gigatron and Megabolt". [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 11:00, 5 December 2017 (EST)
:I would be interested in hearing that. Really though, the main thing that seems odd is how the notes section talks about how the idea of a counterpart of Overlord named Gigatron, who is a separate character, never caught on when there's just been a section about a version of Overlord named Gigatron. Rewording the notes section might be the easiest solution. [[User:Omegatron|Omegatron]] ([[User talk:Omegatron|talk]]) 17:26, 9 December 2017 (EST)
::I have adjusted the note. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 11:17, 10 December 2017 (EST)

== Roller Car ==

Should the little roller car that came with Overlord's original toy get its own page? Like how Motormaster's roller car has one? [[User:LightningStudios|LightningStudios]] ([[User talk:LightningStudios|talk]]) 19:12, 19 November 2025 (EST)

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{{disambig3|Hotwire}}
:''Hotwire is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Universe (Jagex)|Transformers Universe]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].''
[[File:TFUniverse Hotwire.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|H-O-T-W-I-R-E, Hotwire dot ‘Con!]]
'''Hotwire''' shouldn’t be taken at face value... Sure, he’s a money hungry arms dealer with a list of black-market contacts that would impress even [[Swindle (FOC)|Swindle]], but don’t think for a moment he isn’t loyal to the [[Decepticon]] cause. He’s dedicated to his family, just as much as his bottom line.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20141222142815/https://www.transformersuniverse.com/warriors/hotwire Character bio] at the official ''Transformers Universe'' website.</ref>

{{bigquote|Hotwire is a black-market mastermind!|[[Onslaught (WFC)|Onslaught]]}}

==Games==
===''Transformers Universe''===
{{voiceactor|[[Glenn Wrage]]}}
[[File:TFUniverseJagex-HotwireVehicle.png|thumb|left|I know when that Hotwire Bling! That can only mean one thing!]]
Hotwire was part of the crew of the ''[[Leviathan (starship)|Leviathan]]'' when it shot down the Autobot ship ''[[Arclight (ship)|Arclight]]'' over [[Central City (Earth)|Central City]]. He and the other Decepticons on board went on to engage in a number of battles against the surviving Autobots in a number of places around the world. {{storylink|Transformers Universe (Jagex)|Transformers Universe}}
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==Notes==
*Hotwire was first revealed during [[Jagex]]'s Twitch live stream on May 13th, 2014. It was also revealed that he would be one of the three starting Decepticons you can choose, alongside [[Rampart]] and [[Drive-By]].<ref>http://www.twitch.tv/transformersuniverse/c/4251429</ref>
*His in-game weapons are the [[Praetor Pulse Blaster]], [[Liege Pistol]]s, and [[Retriban Beam Gun]]. Transforming into a van, Hotwire's [[alternate mode]] is armed with a [[grenade launcher]].
*His in-game abilities are:
**'''Heist Healer''' — improves his repairing ability.
**'''Getaway Evade''' — deflects most incoming attacks.
**'''Damage Deceptor''' — reflects a proportion of damage back at his attacker, thanks to a reflection system he bought on the black market.
*His active subsystem is "Reactive Programming"; every use of the Retriban Beam Gun has a chance to remove a movement-impairing effect from them.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Transformers Universe game Decepticons]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

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{{disambig}}

The name '''Chopper''' has been used for several characters in ''Transformers'':

{{disamb|y=[[2002]]|[[Charlie Chopper]], the [[Go-Bot (species)|Go-Bot]] from ''[[1-2-3 Transformers]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2003]]|[[Chopper (Go-Bots)|Chopper]], the [[Go-Bot (species)|Go-Bot]] from ''[[Kids' Transformers: Rescue Hero Go-Bots (franchise)|Rescue Hero Go-Bots]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2015]]|[[Chopper (G1)|Chopper]], the [[Transformer]] from the [[2005 IDW continuity]].}}

"Chopper" was also the preliminary name of [[Override (G1)|Override]] ('''[[1988]]'''), the [[Autobot]] [[Triggerbot]] motorcycle from [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]].

==Not to be confused with==
*[[Chopter]]
*[[Chopster]]

Chopper (disambiguation)

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{{disambig3|Override}}
:''Override is an [[Autobot]] [[Triggerbot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:G1Override cardart.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|[[Velocitron|Veloci-]][[Override_(Cybertron)|whosit?]]]]
'''Override''' doesn't know the meaning of the word "subtle". Announcing his presence with the deafening blast of his engines, he wants his enemies to know he's coming. The only thing he loves more than blasting [[Decepticon]]s is charging full throttle, tearing up the roads. Override loves shifting into his powerful "Override Gear," joining battle at frightening speeds, [[Triggerbot]] guns blazing full volume (hopefully they hit something), with apparently no concern for his own well-being. But this is not true. Annoyingly vain, Override can spiral into depression at the mere sight of a scratch on his chassis. It's probably the only time he quiets down.

Muffler? What's that?

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
[[File:Overrideg1.jpg|left|thumb|upright=.85|...I'm gonna ask my Dad if we can play catch.]]
Millions of years ago, Override was one of the Autobots under the command of a young, inexperienced [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], then a junior officer. Leading them into neutral territory to meet with a wise Transformer known as [[Boltax (G1)|Boltax]], they encountered several booby traps along the way. Override in particular was helpful in using his [[particle beam cannon]]s to deactivate the [[mercury minefield]] which threatened to boil them. When they reached the [[Temple of Knowledge]], Override and the other Autobots were instructed to wait outside while Optimus Prime communed with Boltax. {{storylink|The Flames of Boltax!}}

[[File:Triggerbots nuclo deatomiser cannon race with the devil.jpg|thumb|upright=1]]

Years later, in the present day, Override, the other Triggerbots, and the [[Sparkabot]]s were imprisoned by the Decepticons. Three of their number were taken by the Decepticons to [[Earth]], but Override was left behind. {{storylink|Ca$h and Car-nage!}} ''Eventually getting freed under undisclosed circumstances, Override and his fellow Triggerbots next worked for the Autobot Resistance. They were tasked to discover the identity of a mysterious package [[Darkwing (G1)|Darkwing]] and [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] were hired to retrieve by an unknown party. While tailing the two Decepticon [[Powermaster]]s near the Earth's [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], however, they were spotted. Their targets tried to gun their shuttle down, and all attempts to outmaneuver the Decepticons failed. Out of alternatives, the Autobots decided to detonate their ship's supply of [[energon cube]]s, making it appear as though the Decepticons had succeeded in destroying them. Once Dreadwind and Darkwing headed down to Earth, Override and his teammates resumed tailing them covertly.''

''Making landfall in southern [[Peru]], the Triggerbots learned from [[Hi-Test (G1)|Hi-Test]] and [[Throttle (G1)|Throttle]], the Decepticons' [[Nebulan]] partners, that the Powermasters were hired to recover the dead body of [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] after the [[Underbase]] fiasco. But no one had foreseen that Starscream would be putting up a fight; his body had remained animated beyond death due to the lingering energies of the Underbase within it. [[Backstreet (G1)|Backstreet]] had the team take an [[Susan Hoffman|archeologist]] out of the line of fire before engaging the [[zombie]], a decision that resulted in him getting severely injured.''

[[File:Override race with the devil.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1]]
''Backstreet insisted that Override and [[Dogfight (G1)|Dogfight]] leave him behind to deal with Starscream while they got themselves to safety. Though Override outright refused at first, reminding him that nearby humans' lives also needed to be considered convinced him to follow Backstreet's orders. Override sped off, and found that Susan Hoffman, the archeologist they had encountered earlier, had a small team of [[Susan Hoffman#Assistants|assistants]] accompanying her. Said team had been captured by the [[Juluth]] tribe, who had mistaken Starscream for their god, and were about to perform a human sacrifice! Mid-rescue, Override noticed that Darkwing and Dreadwind had succeeded in collecting Starscream's body. He was tempted to try and intercept them, but Susan insisted he stay on task. The Juluth were soon driven off, and Override reconvened with Dogfight and Backstreet. Though the Triggerbots were disappointed over their failed mission, Susan assured them they had made the right decision in saving her group.'' {{storylink|Race with the Devil}}

During the [[Matrix Quest]], the Triggerbots were sent to the planet [[Cheyne]]. They stayed with a family of [[Vrobian]]s who were persecuted by the local law enforcement, but over a period of time, Override and the others forgot their original mission, their past, and perhaps even their names! Fortunately, Dogfight discovered that the Vrobians were psychic vampires, putting the Autobots under their mental control. The Triggerbots rebelled, killed the family, and left Cheyne when no leads on the Matrix's location were uncovered. {{storylink|Kings of the Wild Frontier.}}

=====Trigger-Happy!=====
Override was part of a squad assembled for a sting operation meant to capture [[Crankcase (G1)|two]] [[Ruckus (G1)|Decepticons]] delivering battle plans. Unfortunately, the ambush was botched when [[Backstreet (G1)|Backstreet]], their lookout, fired his [[proton missile cannon]]s prematurely, giving away the Autobots' presence and position. As a fire fight broke out in [[Rivers' Town]], endangering its human inhabitants, Override drove up to Backstreet, enraged at his fellow Autobot's lapse in judgement. In his anger, he exaggerated Optimus's own disappointment towards Backstreet, and told him that the Autobot commander was calling for Backstreet's termination! Backstreet suffered a mental breakdown at the news, and fled from the scene rather than face the consequences of his actions.

The Autobots were forced to hound down their fugitive comrade, for fear that in his panic he might endanger either himself or more innocent bystanders. Override withheld mention that it was his over-reaction which had led to Backstreet's flight from justice. He eventually owed up when, following Backstreet's seemingly unprovoked attack on a human military convoy, Optimus started considering Backstreet's termination to put an end to his rampage after all. Override was reprimanded, but Optimus thankfully managed to approach Backstreet and convinced him to return home before further damage was done. {{storylink|Trigger-Happy!}}

====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
Override was present when the Decepticons unleashed a robotic hell-beast known as 'King Con' on New York; however Optimus Prime rented a helicopter to fly a banner announcing huge raw oil deposit finds in the Rocky Mountains. After a short hesitation, the Decepticons retreated to pursue these findings. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 7|New York — A City Sinking in Terror}}
{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|The Transformers' Grand Hour: Headmaster of the Dimensions}} {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 11|Transformers in Action: He Who Laughs Last ...}} {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 13|The Energon Trap}}}}

====Marvel ''Generation 2'' comic====
[[File:Final Transformations Megatron kills Override.jpg|thumb|upright=1|C'mon, Override, pull yourself together!]]
When [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] sent word to Optimus Prime that [[Cobra]] had rebuilt [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], he sent a group of Autobots that included Override to fight him. After several of them were destroyed, Override's job was to distract Megatron while [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] was loaded into the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. He succeeded, but Megatron tore him apart, so it was a somewhat pyrrhic victory. {{storylink|Final Transformations}}

====''Regeneration One''====
{{NoteRG1}}
[[File:Autobot security team natural selection.jpg|thumb|upright=1|left]]
Twenty-odd years after the end of hostilities between the Autobots and the Decepticons, Override, [[Dogfight (G1)|Dogfight]], [[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]], [[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]] and [[Backstreet (G1)|Backstreet]] formed a security team that accompanied the new Autobot leader [[Hot Rod (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Hot Rod]] to apprehend the errant [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] upon his return to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Although offered the choice to come quietly, Grimlock chose to do things the hard way, resisting all the way to [[Bastion-five lock-up]], where he managed to escape by apparently infecting [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] with [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s [[Gene Key]]. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Two}} Later, Override also fell victim to the Gene Key {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Three}} and assisted Scorponok and Perceptor in constructing a large-scale version of the device at the [[Sonic Canyons]]. Thankfully, Perceptor was only bluffing and managed to reverse the Gene Key's effects, shouting at Override and the other Autobots to get clear while Grimlock and Scorponok battled for the last time. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Five}} {{storylink|Destiny, Part One}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
When Megatron took over Cybertron during the [[Age of Internment]], Override and his [[Triggerbot]] partner [[Dogfight (G1)|Dogfight]] managed to evade capture and hooked up with a resistance cell headed [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}} When one of their away teams was having trouble apprehending one of [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s [[Air Warrior|Aerospace Extermination Squadron]] drones, Override fetched Perceptor out of a meeting so the brainier 'bot could help coordinate the mission. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.3}}

{{Unreleased WW comic}}

Override and the Triggerbots accompanied Blaster as he used an ancient map of Cybertron's depths to infiltrate Megatron's slave camp, only for them to be discovered by Megatron himself. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.4}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Stormbringer issue 2|''Stormbringer'' #2]]}}

[[File:Stormbringer4 Crosshairs Autobots.jpg|thumb|Good thing they all have magnets in their feet.]]
Override worked on the [[Ark-27]], bringing [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] back to Cybertron to battle [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and his Frankenstein-recreation, [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]]. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 2|Stormbringer #2}} {{Storylink|Stormbringer issue 3|Stormbringer #3}} His crew later transported Optimus to Earth to join up with [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]'s infiltration unit. {{Storylink|Stormbringer issue 4|Stormbringer #4}}

Later still, Override helped haul [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] away after his fight with [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}}

Override was one of the many bots surprised to hear of [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]'s miraculous return. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}}

===''Wings Universe''===
[[File:SandstormthrowsOverride-ACommonFoe.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1]]
At the dawn of the [[Machine Wars (event)|Machine Wars]] in [[2013]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] was attacked and left comatose by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s forces. This news was relayed by [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] to Override, who then helped [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] coordinate the war effort against Jhaixus and his clone army as they invaded [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. {{storylink|Termination}} Override had to abandon his post and join the battlefield proper when Obsidian and [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] organized all of their troops into attacking the enemy's stronghold in Iacon. Near the beginning of the battle, the clone [[Sandstorm (MW)|Sandstorm]] beat both Override and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] down. {{storylink|A Common Foe}}
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==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
[[File:G1Override toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|John Woo was on the design team.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Override''' (Triggerbot, [[1988]] / [[1994]])}}</ul>

: Released in the fifth year of the [[The Transformers (toyline)|original ''Transformers'' toyline]] (fourth year in the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|European toyline]]), [[Triggerbot#Toys|Triggerbot]] Override transforms into a somewhat abstracted blue and red 1980s Suzuki GS1100GK motorcycle. As part of the Triggerbots subgroup, he features flip-out weapons available in both modes. Pressing the trigger on each saddlebag/robot-mode arm deploys his chromed, spring-loaded [[particle beam cannon]]s.

: All three Triggerbots were released in the fifth year of the [[The Transformers (Chinese toyline)|Chinese ''Transformers'' toyline]], over half a decade later than in the US/Europe. These releases have [[rubsign]]s, which the originals lacked as they had been phased out for the 1988 line.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1988/Autobot/Override/override.htm More information on Override at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
*Override had the preliminary name of "[[Chopper (disambiguation)|Chopper]]".<ref>''Hasbro 1988 Pre-Toy Fair Catalog''</ref>
*Override received a direct [[homage]] in [[Override (RID)|''Adventure'' Override]].

===Foreign names===
*''French:'' '''Furio''' (France), '''Autopilote''' (Canada)
*''Hungarian:'' '''Gázoló''' ("Wader")

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toy Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]
[[Category:Marvel Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Marvel Generation 2 Autobots]]
[[Category:Regeneration One Autobots]]
[[Category:Scouts]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Autobots]]

Backstreet (G1)

2025-06-20T01:11:36Z

LightningStudios: fixed misspelling

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{{disambig2|the Autobot Triggerbot from Generation 1|the Autobot from Animated|Backstreet (Animated)}}
:''Backstreet is an [[Autobot]] [[Triggerbot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:KingsoftheWildFrontier-Backstreet.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Everybody. (yeah yeah) Rock your body. (yeah yeah)]]
'''Backstreet''' hates warfare. He is not motivated like [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] by philosophical reasons; quite frankly, he isn't mentally equipped for deep thought, but he at least suspects that a failure to fight would mean [[Decepticon]] victory, and that he does not want. No, his temperament is the trouble. He's jumpy and nervous, easily agitated, and prone to jumping to incorrect conclusions from accurate observations. He knows he is like this, and tries to avoid battles when possible. Does this make him a coward? Perhaps, but when he cannot honorably avoid fighting he does his best to crush his fears, lest he be found out. His comrades, unaware of his secret, know him as an adequate soldier.

As a lookout, Backstreet almost excels. His senses are keen, and his nervousness keeps him constantly alert, if edgy. Best of all, he can avoid the worst of the battlefield chaos. Unfortunately, jumping to conclusions is an even worse trait in a sentry than a front-line soldier.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
{{noteukonly}}
[[File:FlamesofBoltax-Triggerbots.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.67|Am I original? Yeah. Am I the only one? Yeah. Am I sexual? ...No.]]
Around five million years ago, Backstreet was in the [[Autobot Fourth Computerized Division]]. Under the command of junior officer [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], he, [[Override (G1)|Override]], and [[Dogfight (G1)|Dogfight]] were seeking to end the war with the knowledge of [[Boltax (G1)|Boltax]] and the [[Underbase]]. On the way to Boltax, the Autobots encountered a series of traps which were placed to keep out unwanted intruders. Backstreet helped with the third trap, a road of collapsing panels. Noting that bigger wasn't necessarily better, the small car zipped past the trap faster than it could ensnare him, and Backstreet deactivated the trap on far side of it. Finally, the four Autobots reached Boltax, where the [[Disciples of Boltax]] warned them that pain and suffering would be inflicted on them if they continued. Backstreet didn't like being threatened, but Optimus Prime agreed with the disciples. He ordered Backstreet, Dogfight, and Override to stay behind while he continued. {{storylink|The Flames of Boltax!}}

[[File:Backstreet jammered.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Jam on 'cause Backstreet's got it!]]
He must've hit hard times over the next few millennia, though, as he was languishing in a Decepticon prison camp on Cybertron by [[1988]]. There, he could do little more than anticipate being melted down into steel ingots, a fate he was most fearful of. Funny how your life can fall apart that quickly. Strangely enough, when the [[Firecon]]s extricated him from his cell alongside [[Fizzle]] and [[Sizzle (G1)|Sizzle]], they re-energized him, returned his [[proton missile cannon]]s, and marched him down the [[space bridge]] instead. He wasn't simply being freed however; Backstreet and his [[Sparkabot]] companions were to be hunted down by human bounty hunters called [[Roadjammers]], who [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] had equipped with mode-lock weapons. The Autobots were captured, though they were able to convince the humans that their Decepticon benefactors didn't have their best interests in mind. [[Felix|One of the bounty-hunters]] modified the [[jammer]]s the Decepticons had provided him in order to control Backstreet's motor-functions, and used the Autobot trio to strike back at the Decepticons. The head of the operation, [[Zarak (G1)|Lord Zarak]], was forced to use an "anti-jammer" to liberate his own troops from the human's control, allowing the Autobots to escape. Backstreet helped get the Roadjammers out of harm's way on his way out, but afterwards left them to their own devices, not wanting anything more to do with the group. {{storylink|Ca$h and Car-nage!}}

[[File:Triggerbots nuclo deatomiser cannon race with the devil.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.3|Don't wanna hear you say "ain't nothin' but a heartache".]]
''Backstreet's fellow Triggerbots were eventually released from prison under undisclosed circumstances. Returning to Cybertron, Backtreet and the Triggerbots worked for the Autobot Resistance. They were tasked to discover the identity of a mysterious package [[Darkwing (G1)|Darkwing]] and [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] were hired to retrieve by an unknown party. While tailing the two Decepticon [[Powermaster]]s near the Earth's [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], however, they were spotted. Their targets tried to gun their shuttle down, and all attempts to outmaneuver the Decepticons failed. Dogfight was eager to retaliate with [[nuclo-deatomiser cannon|lethal force]], but Backstreet reminded him that part of their mission was to uncover who had hired the duo; de-atomized 'cons wouldn't be able to share such information. Instead, the Autobots decided to detonate their ship's energon supply, making it appear as though the Decepticons had succeeded in destroying them. Once Dreadwind and Darkwing headed down to Earth, Backstreet and his teammates resumed tailing them covertly.''

[[File:Backstreet race with the devil.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|You are my fire. The one desire.]]
''Making landfall in southern [[Peru]], Backstreet managed to catch [[Hi-Test (G1)|Hi-Test]] and [[Throttle (G1)|Throttle]], the Decepticons' [[Nebulan]] partners, as they were rushing towards an [[Susan Hoffman|archeologist]]. He learned from the pair that the Powermasters were hired to recover the dead body of [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] after the [[Underbase]] fiasco. Only problem was, the dead fought back; Starscream's body somehow had remained animated beyond death due to the lingering energies of the Underbase within it. Worse yet, the [[zombie]] was hostile! It caught Backstreet off-guard, severely injuring him in an opening salvo. Backstreet then tried to convince his teammates to save themselves while he held off Starscream. They wouldn't hear of it, and tried to tackle the undead Decepticon themselves. Ultimately, it was Backstreet who realized the corpse was driven by the Underbase, not Starscream's mind, and reasoned with the entity until it stopped fighting. Unfortunately, the Nebulans then jumped in and drained the remaining energies from Starscream's carcass. It crumpled into a heap, allowing the Decepticons to grab it and flee. Though Backstreet was left depressed over having failed his mission, the archeologist he had rescued earlier assured him he had done all he could.'' {{storylink|Race with the Devil}}

During the [[Matrix Quest]], the Triggerbots traveled to the desert planet [[Cheyne]] in search of the legendary artifact. They were taken in by a group of peaceful settlers, but oddly began to lose focus in their quest. No, not robotic ADD... it was [[Vrobian|Vrobian Psychic Vampires from the Dark Nebula]]! Dogfight managed to break their psychic spell on the others, and Backstreet and Override were forced to kill the Vrobians in self-defense. After some off-hand musing about the nature of evil and death, the Triggerbots quickly moved on with their quest. {{storylink|Kings of the Wild Frontier.}}

Backstreet was one of many Autobots and Decepticons present when [[Primus]] (through [[Xaaron|Emirate Xaaron]]) revealed his plans for the defeat of [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]. {{storylink|The Void! (US)|The Void!}}

=====Trigger-Happy!=====
[[File:Backstreet-Trigger-happy.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|All my defenses are never going to hold,
I'm always going to lose control.]]
In one mission on Earth, Backstreet was made pointman in an Autobot plan to capture [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]] and [[Ruckus (G1)|Ruckus]], two Decepticons carrying valuable information. The Autobots knew the [[Triggercon]]s should be passing a certain point on their travels, and it was Backstreet's job to send the alert signal to the rest of the army when they reached that checkpoint. Because of their close proximity to a human town, Backstreet was under strict orders from Optimus Prime not to engage the enemy. When he spotted the Double [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]] flying as escort for the couriers, though, Backstreet became wracked by indecision and ultimately opened fire against orders. The battle began and caused serious damage and casualties among the humans, while Crankcase and Ruckus got away. Backstreet's backup, [[Override (G1)|Override]], was furious at him and overstated the reprimand from Optimus Prime he was to deliver, claiming Backstreet faced court-martial and possible termination. Caught up in another panic, Backstreet went AWOL, believing himself hunted by Autobots, Decepticons and humans alike. Fearing he would become a danger to himself and anyone he might encounter, his teammates were forced to track him down. The Decepticons, upon hearing of the situation, also took interest; [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] saw opportunity to convert the wayward Autobot over to his faction. But Backstreet remained elusive. After narrowly avoiding being spotted by [[Getaway]] and [[Joyride (G1)|Joyride]], he encountered a human military patrol on a mountain road. Mistaking them for the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], Backstreet loosed a volley of firepower on the unsuspecting humans. The realization that he had once more imperiled innocents pushed him further over the edge, and Backstreet decided to hide away from any other potential victims.

He settled on a [[Cyclorama|cinema]] at the abandoned [[Riverway Fun Park]] as his hideout of choice. Unfortunately, [[Don Stracher|a night watchman]] stumbled upon him, and reported his sighting to the police. [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] intercepted the watchman's call, and informed Megatron of Backstreet's whereabouts. Though Megatron ordered his stooges to keep their distance while he made his way over, Spinister and his fellow Decepticon, [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]], proved unable to resist roughing up the lone Autobot. Caught off guard, Backstreet found himself at the mercy of his attackers. But Megatron's timely intervention saw the two bullies off, and the Decepticon leader extended a hand in friendship to Backstreet. Though promised protection and a privileged position in the Decepticon ranks, Backstreet remained loyal to his Autobot ideals, and refused outright to defect. Enraged, Megatron prepared to strike Backstreet down, but was himself stopped by the arrival of Optimus Prime. Upon hearing that, despite everything, Optimus still believed in him, Backstreet joined the fight, and managed to knock Megatron unconscious. Optimus laid cover fire as the other Decepticons rushed to Megatron's aid, and he and Backstreet retreated together.

During Backstreet's absence, Optimus had learned what had transpired to send his soldier on the run, and so was lenient on his sentence. Much to Backstreet's relief, Optimus only decreed that henceforth, he would be accompanied by a partner when out on lookout missions. {{storylink|Trigger-Happy!}}

====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
Backstreet was present when the Decepticons unleashed a robotic hell-beast known as 'King Con' on New York; however Optimus Prime rented a helicopter to fly a banner announcing huge raw oil deposit finds in the Rocky Mountains. After a short hesitation, the Decepticons retreated to pursue these findings. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 7|New York — A City Sinking in Terror}} Later, Backstreet was one of many Autobots who fought in defense of a human oil tanker {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|Headmaster of the Dimensions}}, and again at an oil refinery. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 11|He Who Laughs Last...}}

After Backstreet seriously injured [[Ruckus (G1)|Ruckus]] with blaster fire, Optimus Prime gave the Autobots a stern lecture about being able to tell friend from foe because Ruckus is apparently an Autobot now? {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 12|"By their Blasters you shall know them...!"}}

When the Decepticons attempted to steal a submarine filled with plutonium rods, Backstreet oversaw the Autobot mission to retrieve them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 13|The Energon Trap}}

====''Regeneration One''====
{{NoteRG1}}
Backstreet, [[Dogfight (G1)|Dogfight]], [[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]], [[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]], and [[Override (G1)|Override]] formed a security team that accompanied the new Autobot leader [[Hot Rod (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Hot Rod]] in apprehending the errant [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] on his return to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Although offered the choice to come quietly, Grimlock chose to do things the hard way, resisting all the way to [[Bastion-five lock-up]]. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Two}}

Having survived the battle against the forces of [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] at the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], Backstreet returned first to Cybertron, then formed part of a squad under [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]]'s command that travelled by [[space bridge]] to Earth, where they were ambushed by [[Linda Chang]]'s troops in the [[Glass Mountains]]. After [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] had negotiated a ceasefire, the [[human]]s and Autobots united and journeyed to [[Nebulos]], defeating the corrupted [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] in the [[Clar Macro-jungle]]. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 5}}

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
{{Unreleased WW comic}}
After the Decepticons had taken over Cybertron, Backstreet and the Triggerbots accompanied Blaster as he used an ancient map of Cybertron's depths to infiltrate Megatron's slave camp, only for them to be discovered by Megatron himself. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.4}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Stormbringer issue 2|''Stormbringer'' #2]]}}
[[File:SpotlightOptimusPrime-Backstreet.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7|Oh my God, we're back again.]]
When [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] needed a quick taxi service to Cybertron to investigate the disappearance of [[Jetfire (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Jetfire]]'s survey team, he called up Backstreet and the crew of the ''[[Ark-27]]'' to transport him there. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 2|Stormbringer #2}}

Later, Backstreet and the ''Ark-27'' were again called upon to assist Optimus Prime when [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]] attacked and crippled [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. Backstreet was seen assisting in Omega's recovery. {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}} He was present on the [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub]] when [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] announced his return to the airwaves. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}}

Years later after the [[Surge (event)|Surge]], Backstreet was serving under [[Dogfight (G1)|Dogfight]] when they ran into the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] while returning from the [[Serp Mines]]. When rushing for medical assistance on [[Delphi]], he had his Autobot symbol scrutinized by [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]]. {{storylink|Bullets}} Backstreet was apparently still in medical assistance in Delphi when the crew of the ''[[Lost Light]]'' arrived, and [[Ambulon]] was seen trying to reconstitute him. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} Backstreet was starting to go offline, forcing Ratchet to transform into [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] and activate the [[Red Rust]] infection that had hit Delphi earlier and was now in his system to save Backstreet's life. {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}}

===''Wings Universe''===
[[File:Termination ObsidianPromotesCityCommanders.jpg|thumb|left|Backstreet's back, alright!]]
During the [[Machine Wars (event)|Machine Wars]], Backstreet received a battlefield promotion to City Commander of [[Uraya]] by [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]. With a collection of Autobot and Decepticon defenders, Backstreet held the line at Uraya for several days until Obsidian organized a tactical retreat. The surviving forces of Uraya combined with the various other city-states in secret, an invisible army cloaked by [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] and assembled by Obsidian at Iacon to eliminate the full force of [[Megaplex]] and [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s army. {{storylink|Termination}} After suffering injuries in the ensuing battle, Backstreet was evac'ed by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] with the assistance of [[Bitstream (G1)|Bitstream]]. {{storylink|A Common Foe}}
{{--}}

===2019 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Rise of the Decepticons: We Have Deceived You|''Transformers'' #23]]}}

[[File:WarWorldPrime-prayharder.jpg|thumb|250px|All you people can't you see, can't you see, how your love's affecting our reality?]]

Backstreet was a member of the [[Senate Guard]]. During a controversial Senate meeting, he and the other members of the Guard provided security, but were unprepared for [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] launching a full-scale military takeover. When Backstreet, [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]], and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] charged into the building to provide some reinforcements, [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] chased them right back out with a heavy artillery barrage. {{storylink|Rise of the Decepticons: We Have Deceived You|We Have Deceived You}} Backstreet and the remaining members of the Senate Guard then took part in a daring rescue mission into the Senate to free their compatriots, tunneling their way into the lower levels with [[Zetar (G1)|Zetar]]'s assistance. While sweeping the building for any more prisoners to free, Backstreet's team came under attack from [[Apeface]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]; although the ambush killed [[Roulette (Universe)|Roulette]], Backstreet had just enough time to drag [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] to safety and fall back. {{storylink|War World: Prime|Prime}}

Backstreet and the other members of the Senate Guard later accompanied the newly minted [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] to the [[Forge Pyramid|Pyramid]] to meet with [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]. When the Decepticons attacked the building, Backstreet and his team faced off against [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] and helped keep the other Decepticons at bay before a buildup of molten plasma forced a full-scale evacuation. {{storylink|War World: Titans|Titans}}

[[File:SeaOfRustPartII-Altmodes.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Every time we're down, you can make it right. And that makes you larger than life]]

Backstreet and the renamed "Prime Guard" deployed with their leader to the [[Rust Sea|Sea of Rust]], where [[Termagax]] had possession of the [[Enigma of Combination]]. They set up defensive positions around Termagax's house as the Decepticons arrived for the Enigma as well. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust II|Sea of Rust II}} The Enigma was lost to the Sea, but the Autobots escaped without any fatalities. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Enigmatic|Enigmatic}} Backstreet and the Prime Guard accompanied Optimus on a pilgrimage to commune with his [[immersant]] mentor, [[Codexa]]. They were ambushed by members of the [[Rise]], who sought to capture the Prime. [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] helped the Guard regain the initiative, and Backstreet and the others got Optimus to safety, though Magnus was captured. {{storylink|Darkness, Once Gazed Upon: Part One}}

Backstreet and Flareup attended to Optimus Prime at Crystal City as he prepared for Strika to lead her Decepticons in a siege. {{storylink|A Dust of Crystals}} After the siege ended in a truce, Backstreet and the Prime Guard were part of a procession heading to Darkmount. {{storylink|Radical Time}} Despite the truce, they were boxed in by Decepticon artillery and forced to confront the Rust Worms directly. {{storylink|End of Time}}

In the final battle at [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]], the Autobots were joined by a new Combiner, [[Computron (G1)|Computron]]. When [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] shattered the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s' combined form, Flareup and Groove rushed to aid the team leader, [[Scattershot (G1)|Scattershot]], whose [[Combination Core]] allowed him to instantly reconfigure other Transformers into combiners. The Prime Guard was ready to serve, and Javelin, Backstreet, and Pipes joined the first two in helping Scattershot forge an even more powerful Computron. They held the line against Devastator and the Decepticons, allowing Optimus Prime and the other Autobots to escape aboard the ''Ark''. When Computron was finally brought down by the united Decepticon army, the Prime Guard and Technobots became Megatron's prisoners. {{storylink|Transformers: Fate of Cybertron|Fate of Cybertron}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
[[File:G1Backstreet toy.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|"You're tearin' us apart, oh...quit playin' games with my spark..."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Backstreet''' (Triggerbot, [[1988]] / [[1994]])}}</ul>

: Released in the fifth year of the [[The Transformers (toyline)|original ''Transformers'' toyline]] (fourth year in the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|European toyline]]), [[Triggerbot#Toys|Triggerbot]] Backstreet transforms into a [[popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#Le Mans racer|Porsche 962-based Le Mans racing car]]. As a Triggerbot, in either robot or car modes, pressing a push-button on his back end flips out a pair of chromed spring-loaded (non-firing) rifles, referred to as "[[proton missile cannon]]s" in his bio. Due to this gimmick, his back tires are just stickers while a single wheel hidden under the rear of the car allows Backstreet to roll.

: All three Triggerbots were released in the fifth year of the [[The Transformers (Chinese toyline)|Chinese ''Transformers'' toyline]], over half a decade later than in the US/Europe. These releases have [[rubsign]]s, which the originals lacked as they had been phased out for the 1988 line.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1988/Autobot/Backstreet/backstreet.htm More information on Backstreet at TFU.info.]''

==Notes==
*Backstreet had the preliminary name of "Speedtrap".<ref>''Hasbro 1988 Pre-Toy Fair Catalog''</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''French:'' '''Confusion''' (Canada), '''Bitume''' (France, "asphalt")

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toy Autobots]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Autobots]]
[[Category:Marvel Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Regeneration One Autobots]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Autobots]]
[[Category:Security officers]]

Backstreet (G1)

2025-06-20T01:11:00Z

LightningStudios: added preproduction name

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{{disambig2|the Autobot Triggerbot from Generation 1|the Autobot from Animated|Backstreet (Animated)}}
:''Backstreet is an [[Autobot]] [[Triggerbot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:KingsoftheWildFrontier-Backstreet.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Everybody. (yeah yeah) Rock your body. (yeah yeah)]]
'''Backstreet''' hates warfare. He is not motivated like [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] by philosophical reasons; quite frankly, he isn't mentally equipped for deep thought, but he at least suspects that a failure to fight would mean [[Decepticon]] victory, and that he does not want. No, his temperament is the trouble. He's jumpy and nervous, easily agitated, and prone to jumping to incorrect conclusions from accurate observations. He knows he is like this, and tries to avoid battles when possible. Does this make him a coward? Perhaps, but when he cannot honorably avoid fighting he does his best to crush his fears, lest he be found out. His comrades, unaware of his secret, know him as an adequate soldier.

As a lookout, Backstreet almost excels. His senses are keen, and his nervousness keeps him constantly alert, if edgy. Best of all, he can avoid the worst of the battlefield chaos. Unfortunately, jumping to conclusions is an even worse trait in a sentry than a front-line soldier.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
{{noteukonly}}
[[File:FlamesofBoltax-Triggerbots.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.67|Am I original? Yeah. Am I the only one? Yeah. Am I sexual? ...No.]]
Around five million years ago, Backstreet was in the [[Autobot Fourth Computerized Division]]. Under the command of junior officer [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]], he, [[Override (G1)|Override]], and [[Dogfight (G1)|Dogfight]] were seeking to end the war with the knowledge of [[Boltax (G1)|Boltax]] and the [[Underbase]]. On the way to Boltax, the Autobots encountered a series of traps which were placed to keep out unwanted intruders. Backstreet helped with the third trap, a road of collapsing panels. Noting that bigger wasn't necessarily better, the small car zipped past the trap faster than it could ensnare him, and Backstreet deactivated the trap on far side of it. Finally, the four Autobots reached Boltax, where the [[Disciples of Boltax]] warned them that pain and suffering would be inflicted on them if they continued. Backstreet didn't like being threatened, but Optimus Prime agreed with the disciples. He ordered Backstreet, Dogfight, and Override to stay behind while he continued. {{storylink|The Flames of Boltax!}}

[[File:Backstreet jammered.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Jam on 'cause Backstreet's got it!]]
He must've hit hard times over the next few millennia, though, as he was languishing in a Decepticon prison camp on Cybertron by [[1988]]. There, he could do little more than anticipate being melted down into steel ingots, a fate he was most fearful of. Funny how your life can fall apart that quickly. Strangely enough, when the [[Firecon]]s extricated him from his cell alongside [[Fizzle]] and [[Sizzle (G1)|Sizzle]], they re-energized him, returned his [[proton missile cannon]]s, and marched him down the [[space bridge]] instead. He wasn't simply being freed however; Backstreet and his [[Sparkabot]] companions were to be hunted down by human bounty hunters called [[Roadjammers]], who [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] had equipped with mode-lock weapons. The Autobots were captured, though they were able to convince the humans that their Decepticon benefactors didn't have their best interests in mind. [[Felix|One of the bounty-hunters]] modified the [[jammer]]s the Decepticons had provided him in order to control Backstreet's motor-functions, and used the Autobot trio to strike back at the Decepticons. The head of the operation, [[Zarak (G1)|Lord Zarak]], was forced to use an "anti-jammer" to liberate his own troops from the human's control, allowing the Autobots to escape. Backstreet helped get the Roadjammers out of harm's way on his way out, but afterwards left them to their own devices, not wanting anything more to do with the group. {{storylink|Ca$h and Car-nage!}}

[[File:Triggerbots nuclo deatomiser cannon race with the devil.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.3|Don't wanna hear you say "ain't nothin' but a heartache".]]
''Backstreet's fellow Triggerbots were eventually released from prison under undisclosed circumstances. Returning to Cybertron, Backtreet and the Triggerbots worked for the Autobot Resistance. They were tasked to discover the identity of a mysterious package [[Darkwing (G1)|Darkwing]] and [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]] were hired to retrieve by an unknown party. While tailing the two Decepticon [[Powermaster]]s near the Earth's [[Moon (moon)|Moon]], however, they were spotted. Their targets tried to gun their shuttle down, and all attempts to outmaneuver the Decepticons failed. Dogfight was eager to retaliate with [[nuclo-deatomiser cannon|lethal force]], but Backstreet reminded him that part of their mission was to uncover who had hired the duo; de-atomized 'cons wouldn't be able to share such information. Instead, the Autobots decided to detonate their ship's energon supply, making it appear as though the Decepticons had succeeded in destroying them. Once Dreadwind and Darkwing headed down to Earth, Backstreet and his teammates resumed tailing them covertly.''

[[File:Backstreet race with the devil.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|You are my fire. The one desire.]]
''Making landfall in southern [[Peru]], Backstreet managed to catch [[Hi-Test (G1)|Hi-Test]] and [[Throttle (G1)|Throttle]], the Decepticons' [[Nebulan]] partners, as they were rushing towards an [[Susan Hoffman|archeologist]]. He learned from the pair that the Powermasters were hired to recover the dead body of [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]] after the [[Underbase]] fiasco. Only problem was, the dead fought back; Starscream's body somehow had remained animated beyond death due to the lingering energies of the Underbase within it. Worse yet, the [[zombie]] was hostile! It caught Backstreet off-guard, severely injuring him in an opening salvo. Backstreet then tried to convince his teammates to save themselves while he held off Starscream. They wouldn't hear of it, and tried to tackle the undead Decepticon themselves. Ultimately, it was Backstreet who realized the corpse was driven by the Underbase, not Starscream's mind, and reasoned with the entity until it stopped fighting. Unfortunately, the Nebulans then jumped in and drained the remaining energies from Starscream's carcass. It crumpled into a heap, allowing the Decepticons to grab it and flee. Though Backstreet was left depressed over having failed his mission, the archeologist he had rescued earlier assured him he had done all he could.'' {{storylink|Race with the Devil}}

During the [[Matrix Quest]], the Triggerbots traveled to the desert planet [[Cheyne]] in search of the legendary artifact. They were taken in by a group of peaceful settlers, but oddly began to lose focus in their quest. No, not robotic ADD... it was [[Vrobian|Vrobian Psychic Vampires from the Dark Nebula]]! Dogfight managed to break their psychic spell on the others, and Backstreet and Override were forced to kill the Vrobians in self-defense. After some off-hand musing about the nature of evil and death, the Triggerbots quickly moved on with their quest. {{storylink|Kings of the Wild Frontier.}}

Backstreet was one of many Autobots and Decepticons present when [[Primus]] (through [[Xaaron|Emirate Xaaron]]) revealed his plans for the defeat of [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]. {{storylink|The Void! (US)|The Void!}}

=====Trigger-Happy!=====
[[File:Backstreet-Trigger-happy.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|All my defenses are never going to hold,
I'm always going to lose control.]]
In one mission on Earth, Backstreet was made pointman in an Autobot plan to capture [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]] and [[Ruckus (G1)|Ruckus]], two Decepticons carrying valuable information. The Autobots knew the [[Triggercon]]s should be passing a certain point on their travels, and it was Backstreet's job to send the alert signal to the rest of the army when they reached that checkpoint. Because of their close proximity to a human town, Backstreet was under strict orders from Optimus Prime not to engage the enemy. When he spotted the Double [[Targetmaster (technology)|Targetmasters]] flying as escort for the couriers, though, Backstreet became wracked by indecision and ultimately opened fire against orders. The battle began and caused serious damage and casualties among the humans, while Crankcase and Ruckus got away. Backstreet's backup, [[Override (G1)|Override]], was furious at him and overstated the reprimand from Optimus Prime he was to deliver, claiming Backstreet faced court-martial and possible termination. Caught up in another panic, Backstreet went AWOL, believing himself hunted by Autobots, Decepticons and humans alike. Fearing he would become a danger to himself and anyone he might encounter, his teammates were forced to track him down. The Decepticons, upon hearing of the situation, also took interest; [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] saw opportunity to convert the wayward Autobot over to his faction. But Backstreet remained elusive. After narrowly avoiding being spotted by [[Getaway]] and [[Joyride (G1)|Joyride]], he encountered a human military patrol on a mountain road. Mistaking them for the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], Backstreet loosed a volley of firepower on the unsuspecting humans. The realization that he had once more imperiled innocents pushed him further over the edge, and Backstreet decided to hide away from any other potential victims.

He settled on a [[Cyclorama|cinema]] at the abandoned [[Riverway Fun Park]] as his hideout of choice. Unfortunately, [[Don Stracher|a night watchman]] stumbled upon him, and reported his sighting to the police. [[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] intercepted the watchman's call, and informed Megatron of Backstreet's whereabouts. Though Megatron ordered his stooges to keep their distance while he made his way over, Spinister and his fellow Decepticon, [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]], proved unable to resist roughing up the lone Autobot. Caught off guard, Backstreet found himself at the mercy of his attackers. But Megatron's timely intervention saw the two bullies off, and the Decepticon leader extended a hand in friendship to Backstreet. Though promised protection and a privileged position in the Decepticon ranks, Backstreet remained loyal to his Autobot ideals, and refused outright to defect. Enraged, Megatron prepared to strike Backstreet down, but was himself stopped by the arrival of Optimus Prime. Upon hearing that, despite everything, Optimus still believed in him, Backstreet joined the fight, and managed to knock Megatron unconscious. Optimus laid cover fire as the other Decepticons rushed to Megatron's aid, and he and Backstreet retreated together.

During Backstreet's absence, Optimus had learned what had transpired to send his soldier on the run, and so was lenient on his sentence. Much to Backstreet's relief, Optimus only decreed that henceforth, he would be accompanied by a partner when out on lookout missions. {{storylink|Trigger-Happy!}}

====''Transformers Comic-Magazin''====
Backstreet was present when the Decepticons unleashed a robotic hell-beast known as 'King Con' on New York; however Optimus Prime rented a helicopter to fly a banner announcing huge raw oil deposit finds in the Rocky Mountains. After a short hesitation, the Decepticons retreated to pursue these findings. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 7|New York — A City Sinking in Terror}} Later, Backstreet was one of many Autobots who fought in defense of a human oil tanker {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 9|Headmaster of the Dimensions}}, and again at an oil refinery. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 11|He Who Laughs Last...}}

After Backstreet seriously injured [[Ruckus (G1)|Ruckus]] with blaster fire, Optimus Prime gave the Autobots a stern lecture about being able to tell friend from foe because Ruckus is apparently an Autobot now? {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 12|"By their Blasters you shall know them...!"}}

When the Decepticons attempted to steal a submarine filled with plutonium rods, Backstreet oversaw the Autobot mission to retrieve them. {{storylink|Transformers Comic-Magazin issue 13|The Energon Trap}}

====''Regeneration One''====
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Backstreet, [[Dogfight (G1)|Dogfight]], [[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]], [[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]], and [[Override (G1)|Override]] formed a security team that accompanied the new Autobot leader [[Hot Rod (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Hot Rod]] in apprehending the errant [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]] [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] on his return to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Although offered the choice to come quietly, Grimlock chose to do things the hard way, resisting all the way to [[Bastion-five lock-up]]. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Two}}

Having survived the battle against the forces of [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] at the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], Backstreet returned first to Cybertron, then formed part of a squad under [[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]]'s command that travelled by [[space bridge]] to Earth, where they were ambushed by [[Linda Chang]]'s troops in the [[Glass Mountains]]. After [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]] had negotiated a ceasefire, the [[human]]s and Autobots united and journeyed to [[Nebulos]], defeating the corrupted [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] in the [[Clar Macro-jungle]]. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 5}}

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
{{Unreleased WW comic}}
After the Decepticons had taken over Cybertron, Backstreet and the Triggerbots accompanied Blaster as he used an ancient map of Cybertron's depths to infiltrate Megatron's slave camp, only for them to be discovered by Megatron himself. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.4}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Stormbringer issue 2|''Stormbringer'' #2]]}}
[[File:SpotlightOptimusPrime-Backstreet.jpg|thumb|upright=0.7|Oh my God, we're back again.]]
When [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]] needed a quick taxi service to Cybertron to investigate the disappearance of [[Jetfire (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Jetfire]]'s survey team, he called up Backstreet and the crew of the ''[[Ark-27]]'' to transport him there. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 2|Stormbringer #2}}

Later, Backstreet and the ''Ark-27'' were again called upon to assist Optimus Prime when [[Monstructor (G1)|Monstructor]] attacked and crippled [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. Backstreet was seen assisting in Omega's recovery. {{storylink|Spotlight: Optimus Prime}} He was present on the [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub]] when [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] announced his return to the airwaves. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}}

Years later after the [[Surge (event)|Surge]], Backstreet was serving under [[Dogfight (G1)|Dogfight]] when they ran into the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] while returning from the [[Serp Mines]]. When rushing for medical assistance on [[Delphi]], he had his Autobot symbol scrutinized by [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]]. {{storylink|Bullets}} Backstreet was apparently still in medical assistance in Delphi when the crew of the ''[[Lost Light]]'' arrived, and [[Ambulon]] was seen trying to reconstitute him. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} Backstreet was starting to go offline, forcing Ratchet to transform into [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] and activate the [[Red Rust]] infection that had hit Delphi earlier and was now in his system to save Backstreet's life. {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}}

===''Wings Universe''===
[[File:Termination ObsidianPromotesCityCommanders.jpg|thumb|left|Backstreet's back, alright!]]
During the [[Machine Wars (event)|Machine Wars]], Backstreet received a battlefield promotion to City Commander of [[Uraya]] by [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]]. With a collection of Autobot and Decepticon defenders, Backstreet held the line at Uraya for several days until Obsidian organized a tactical retreat. The surviving forces of Uraya combined with the various other city-states in secret, an invisible army cloaked by [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] and assembled by Obsidian at Iacon to eliminate the full force of [[Megaplex]] and [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]'s army. {{storylink|Termination}} After suffering injuries in the ensuing battle, Backstreet was evac'ed by [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] with the assistance of [[Bitstream (G1)|Bitstream]]. {{storylink|A Common Foe}}
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===2019 IDW continuity===
{{first|[[Rise of the Decepticons: We Have Deceived You|''Transformers'' #23]]}}

[[File:WarWorldPrime-prayharder.jpg|thumb|250px|All you people can't you see, can't you see, how your love's affecting our reality?]]

Backstreet was a member of the [[Senate Guard]]. During a controversial Senate meeting, he and the other members of the Guard provided security, but were unprepared for [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] launching a full-scale military takeover. When Backstreet, [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]], and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] charged into the building to provide some reinforcements, [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] chased them right back out with a heavy artillery barrage. {{storylink|Rise of the Decepticons: We Have Deceived You|We Have Deceived You}} Backstreet and the remaining members of the Senate Guard then took part in a daring rescue mission into the Senate to free their compatriots, tunneling their way into the lower levels with [[Zetar (G1)|Zetar]]'s assistance. While sweeping the building for any more prisoners to free, Backstreet's team came under attack from [[Apeface]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]; although the ambush killed [[Roulette (Universe)|Roulette]], Backstreet had just enough time to drag [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] to safety and fall back. {{storylink|War World: Prime|Prime}}

Backstreet and the other members of the Senate Guard later accompanied the newly minted [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] to the [[Forge Pyramid|Pyramid]] to meet with [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]]. When the Decepticons attacked the building, Backstreet and his team faced off against [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] and helped keep the other Decepticons at bay before a buildup of molten plasma forced a full-scale evacuation. {{storylink|War World: Titans|Titans}}

[[File:SeaOfRustPartII-Altmodes.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Every time we're down, you can make it right. And that makes you larger than life]]

Backstreet and the renamed "Prime Guard" deployed with their leader to the [[Rust Sea|Sea of Rust]], where [[Termagax]] had possession of the [[Enigma of Combination]]. They set up defensive positions around Termagax's house as the Decepticons arrived for the Enigma as well. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Sea of Rust II|Sea of Rust II}} The Enigma was lost to the Sea, but the Autobots escaped without any fatalities. {{storylink|Lord of Misrule: Enigmatic|Enigmatic}} Backstreet and the Prime Guard accompanied Optimus on a pilgrimage to commune with his [[immersant]] mentor, [[Codexa]]. They were ambushed by members of the [[Rise]], who sought to capture the Prime. [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] helped the Guard regain the initiative, and Backstreet and the others got Optimus to safety, though Magnus was captured. {{storylink|Darkness, Once Gazed Upon: Part One}}

Backstreet and Flareup attended to Optimus Prime at Crystal City as he prepared for Strika to lead her Decepticons in a siege. {{storylink|A Dust of Crystals}} After the siege ended in a truce, Backstreet and the Prime Guard were part of a procession heading to Darkmount. {{storylink|Radical Time}} Despite the truce, they were boxed in by Decepticon artillery and forced to confront the Rust Worms directly. {{storylink|End of Time}}

In the final battle at [[Darkmount (Cybertron)|Darkmount]], the Autobots were joined by a new Combiner, [[Computron (G1)|Computron]]. When [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] shattered the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]]s' combined form, Flareup and Groove rushed to aid the team leader, [[Scattershot (G1)|Scattershot]], whose [[Combination Core]] allowed him to instantly reconfigure other Transformers into combiners. The Prime Guard was ready to serve, and Javelin, Backstreet, and Pipes joined the first two in helping Scattershot forge an even more powerful Computron. They held the line against Devastator and the Decepticons, allowing Optimus Prime and the other Autobots to escape aboard the ''Ark''. When Computron was finally brought down by the united Decepticon army, the Prime Guard and Technobots became Megatron's prisoners. {{storylink|Transformers: Fate of Cybertron|Fate of Cybertron}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===''The Transformers''===
[[File:G1Backstreet toy.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|"You're tearin' us apart, oh...quit playin' games with my spark..."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Backstreet''' (Triggerbot, [[1988]] / [[1994]])}}</ul>

: Released in the fifth year of the [[The Transformers (toyline)|original ''Transformers'' toyline]] (fourth year in the [[The Transformers (European toyline)|European toyline]]), [[Triggerbot#Toys|Triggerbot]] Backstreet transforms into a [[popular Earth vehicle alternate modes#Le Mans racer|Porsche 962-based Le Mans racing car]]. As a Triggerbot, in either robot or car modes, pressing a push-button on his back end flips out a pair of chromed spring-loaded (non-firing) rifles, referred to as "[[proton missile cannon]]s" in his bio. Due to this gimmick, his back tires are just stickers while a single wheel hidden under the rear of the car allows Backstreet to roll.

: All three Triggerbots were released in the fifth year of the [[The Transformers (Chinese toyline)|Chinese ''Transformers'' toyline]], over half a decade later than in the US/Europe. These releases have [[rubsign]]s, which the originals lacked as they had been phased out for the 1988 line.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1988/Autobot/Backstreet/backstreet.htm More information on Backstreet at TFU.info.]''

==Notes==
*Backspeed had the preliminary name of "Speedtrap".<ref>''Hasbro 1988 Pre-Toy Fair Catalog''</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''French:'' '''Confusion''' (Canada), '''Bitume''' (France, "asphalt")

==References==
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[[Category:Dreamwave Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Generation 1 toy Autobots]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Autobots]]
[[Category:Marvel Generation 1 Autobots]]
[[Category:Regeneration One Autobots]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Autobots]]
[[Category:Security officers]]

Topspin (disambiguation)

2025-06-07T21:41:51Z

LightningStudios: added link to twin twist (disambiguation)

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Across the [[multiverse]], 'bots that are called '''Topspin''' are generally badass [[Autobot]] [[Wreckers]].

==Major Topspins==
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File:G1boxart-Topspin.jpg|[[Topspin (G1)|"Generation 1" Topspin]]
File:TopspinDOTM-poster.jpg‎|[[Topspin (DOTM)|''Dark of the Moon'' Topspin]]
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==Full list of Topspins==
{{disamb|y=[[1985]]|[[Topspin (G1)|Topspin]] the [[Autobot]] [[Jumpstarter]] from [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]].}}
{{disamb|y=[[2008]]|[[Topspin (Classics)|Topspin]] the [[Decepticon]] helicopter and component to [[Nexus Prime]] from ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2011]]|[[Topspin (DOTM)|Topspin]] the Autobot [[NASCAR]] racer from ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2012]]|[[Topspin (FOC)|Topspin]] the Autobot from the [[Aligned continuity family]].}}
{{disamb|y=[[2014]]|[[Topspin (Cloud)|Topspin]], the Autobot Wrecker from ''[[Transformers Cloud|Cloud]]''.}}

==Not to be confused with...==
*[[Twin Twist (disambiguation)|Twin Twist]]
*[['Tops]], the [[Mini Dinobot|Baby Dinobot]] ''Triceratops'' from ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (franchise)|The Last Knight]]''.

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LightningStudios: added category

[[Category:Optimus Prime images]]
[[Category: Swapticons toy images]]

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LightningStudios: LightningStudios uploaded a new version of "File:MTMTE Full-barrel.jpg": Higher quality and less washed-out colors

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