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Dude, stop. English names are not transferred across different characters. Big Convoy is not Big Prime. [[Gren]] is not Hook. Gaia Guardian is not Gaia Defensor, etc. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 21:50, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
:Big Convoy has never been named in English, Gren's never been named as that, and Gaia Guardian doesn't have an English name. Those examples don't work at all. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 21:55, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
::You are severely missing the point. The Kre-O character has no name, English or otherwise. All we have is the assumed intent of the writer (so, "Alexa"). What applies to the original character does not automatically apply to homages, as I've shown with my examples.
::And, frankly, if you had an issue, a better method of action would have been discussing rather than automatically reverting the preference of the person taking the time to make those pages! [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 22:03, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
:: Mimi has a point. using the Alexis/Alexa Kre-o as an example; this wiki typically uses the Japanese name unless/until and English name is made. So, while the Kre-O character might be based off Alexis from Armada, we must call her what the comic calls her. And since the comic calls her nothing, author intent is all we have to go on. I say stick with Alexa but keep the reference to Alexis in the notes/[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 22:27, 14 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Eh. Whatever, I don't even know all that much about the Japanese names, so I'm not the best one to ask about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 16:59, 15 September 2013 (EDT)
:: Give me a mistake in the paragraph please.[[User:MetroPlex71]]
Please don't say that being a woman is an insult. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:32, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
:For clarification, I think [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Waspinator_(BW)&curid=335&diff=828439&oldid=827733&rcid=666524 Supernova222] was the one who said it first. Just letting that out there. --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 22:48, 22 September 2013 (EDT)
:I wasn't trying to sir. Inkblot is correct. I just undid my revision cause I wasn't sure if it was correct or not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:37, 23 September 2013 (EDT)
:(sometimes I should just sit down and shut up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 06:40, 23 September 2013 (EDT)

You need to settle down just a little bit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:34, 12 October 2013 (EDT)
:Sorry, sir. I just got a bit too angry.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 19:38, 12 October 2013 (EDT)

Please explain why you revert everything I contribute on this wiki?! - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 15:53, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:The Ravage note was unessasary. The Team Prime image was fine, though you might want to move it to the episode section. Also, good job on editing the Soundwave ROTF page, the rape thing is one of the few PG-13 level things that is not accepted here. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 15:56, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:: Thanks. - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 16:01, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:: Could you give me an example of a mistake in the paragraph in the AOE page? I checked it on EVERY grammar,punctuation and spell checker page to fix it. No problems... I even contacted my language arts teacher. No problem in the paragraph. It's getting a little bit fishy....[[User:MetroPlex71]]
Why did you remove my talk on the Knock Out page? I thought the talk pages were for disscussing changes? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:13, 4 November 2013 (EST)
:You're saying that being gay is a bad thing, and that is not acceptable. Quit it right now. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:15, 4 November 2013 (EST)
::Sorry, but being gay really is a bad thing, the Bible says so. But if the wiki community doesn't want it on there I won't add it again, okay? :) - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:19, 4 November 2013 (EST)
:::No, it's not a bad thing. If you ever add that again, you will get into some major trouble. Now don't add it again. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:21, 4 November 2013 (EST)
::::Sorry, I won't add it again. But plz don't be so cross, I didn't know it was against the rules I'm new here. what exactly do not mean "major trouble? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:24, 4 November 2013 (EST)
:::::Being banned. Saying stuff like that is absolutely against the rules. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:29, 4 November 2013 (EST)
::::::Okay, it's completely understood. :) But if I say "Bank robbers stink" is that okay? (Just thought I'd better ask so I don't violate any more rules, LOL, not off to a very good start, am I? :))BTW, you got a YouTube channel friend? - [[User:Bumblejumper|Bumblejumper]] 22:33, 4 November 2013 (EST)
::::::::That is acceptable. And no, I don't. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 22:36, 4 November 2013 (EST)

For the second time, chill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)

== [[Zobovor]]'s fake BW names on BW DVD ==

Thanks for reverting my edit. i really thought those were preliminary names for the BW characters! --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 05:32, 25 November 2013 (EST)

== Moving pages ==

You realise that when you move pages, as you've been doing when Kre-O cameos show up without even making a <nowiki>[[x (Kre-O)]]</nowiki> page, you're meant to fix the links to point to the new page, yes? [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Rattrap]] alone shows 333 ''mainspace'' links! (There's a reason for the bolded "Warning! This can be a drastic and unexpected change for a popular page; please be sure you understand the consequences of this before proceeding." text!). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 22:49, 24 January 2014 (EST)

==Prime image==

Why did you revert my optimus prime edit and the edit someone else did? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:08, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:For main images we use the first body or the body the characters had the most. Optimus Prime's appeared more in his body from the first three movies than the one from AOE, so we're sticking with the image we already had. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

Would it not make sense to have a up to date image? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:16, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:That's not how it works. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:17, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

But shouldn't it be? --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:No. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:19, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

It would inform those not aware of the change, make the wiki seem up to date and would be a accurate representation of the character as he is now. --[[User:TillAllR1|TillAllR1]] ([[User talk:TillAllR1|talk]]) 14:24, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
:Look, I didn't make the rules. You're going to have to ask someone like Itswalky, abates, or M Sipher about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:27, 16 April 2014 (EDT)
::Even then that image he uploaded is no good. Prime is smooshed in the center with all that wasted space on the big OPTIMUS PRIME in the background. We need a good clear shot of the character. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 19:14, 16 April 2014 (EDT)

== The Vigilant Town ==

Youtube version is actually edited in the last scene, explaining the Decepticon insignia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtEwQrlEAI4

But the Hub network released this episode on their website, and most likely that's the original non-edited episode. http://www.hubnetwork.com/shows/transformers-rescue-bots/videos/full-episode-the-island-of-misfit-tech-episode-13-season-2

Please check the differences before reverting. [[User:Klink|Klink]] ([[User talk:Klink|talk]]) 23:46, 24 May 2014 (EDT)
:Wow, that Decepticon sigil was so blatantly edited in by someone else. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] ([[User talk:Detour|talk]]) 23:57, 24 May 2014 (EDT)
::Eh. I hadn't seen the episode, and I'd trusted abates judgement more than the newbie. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:59, 24 May 2014 (EDT)

==Tenses==
Hey, just a quick reminder that fiction sections need to be in the past tense. Thanks! [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:50, 4 July 2014 (EDT)
:Yeah, sorry about that. I'll remember next time! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:04, 4 July 2014 (EDT)

==Helloooo==
Hihi, I didn't realize there were any other translady editors of the TFWiki. Hello! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 19:06, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
:Hello there! One of our admins is too, [[User:FortMax]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:39, 11 July 2014 (EDT)
::Embarrassing fact- she follows me on twitter, but I forgot she was an admin here, haha. Anyway, nice talkin to you, see you round the wiki! [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] ([[User talk:Antimatter|talk]]) 00:06, 12 July 2014 (EDT)
:::Nice talking to you, too! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 11:59, 12 July 2014 (EDT)

==Response==
What are you specifically talking about.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:The removal of the Scorn caption and comments you left on abates and Jalaguy's pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:35, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Scorn's caption does not come off as a joke, but at any rate, The Picture of Scorn is a concept art, and should be noted as such, given that concept art often does not share the same appearance of the final product. I'm not necessarily opposed to humor by nature, but it shouldn't get in the way of information, on and information based site.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

EDIT:For future reference, when responding to a message, please leave it on the talk page of the person you are speaking to so they get a notification message.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 17:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:No, it really shouldn't. And no, that's not how it works either. You have to refresh talk pages and check recent changes to see if someone's updated a talk page. Don't put responses to things on your talk page to other people's talk pages. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:00, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Why shouldn't it? It's the exact type of picture that needs context to explain it, official imaging that is altered or not representative of the final product.

And, for the most part in my experience, wiki's use the method of response I use, as it guarantee's the user get's the message. Doing it the other way can lead to a number of complication, like the user not getting the message, or information being lost in communication.

Final quick question, Are you an Admin or Mod?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:10, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:No, if they want to know what it is, they can just look at the description on the image itself. Stop trying to make the wiki work the wayt you want it to.

:And I'm not sure where you get that idea from. You're going to get the message, no matter what, Maybe it works that way at Wikia, but not here.

:And no, I'm not. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:15, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

As you are not an Admin, I would like to ask you not to discuss this with me, as it's not really your place to. While I do appreciate the desire to look after a wiki that you contribute to, unless you are of a position of authority, trying to enforce any rule or policy will not result in desirable results, especially as the Admin's are the one who are really the one's to determine if a policy is being broken or not, and a standard user does not necessarily have the same ability to truly recognize this, and even if they do, they don't have the authority to do anything about it. For future references, if you think someone is breaking a policy or vandalizing pages, contact an Admin or site Mod, rather than taking matter's into your own hands, as this often does little to help the situation or can even make it worse.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:......It's a public forum. Just because I'm not a moderator doesn't mean I shouldn't tell you that you're not doing what's right and ask you to stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:And even then, why wouldn't I know how to interpret the rules? The rules are stated outright among various pages. This isn't some message board. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:51, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

In theory, you are right, but in practice that rarely works. If the user is a true vandal, just messing up the page for kicks, it won't have achieved anything, and may in fact motivate said vandal to keep it up. If it's just another user, then you run into a several other problems. You may not truly understand the full meaning of policy's, or if they are truly being violated, especially if it's a gray type of situation. In those situation, you may just achieve amnesty with a new user who was trying to help. Many people do not appreciate being told what to do by a person in a non-authoritative position, as you are essentially the same "rank" as them, you don't truly have the authority to make any real demands.

Most Admins are Admins for a reason, normally they are excellent editors but also, more importantly, they have excellent crisis situation skills and know how to handle problems users, or users who may simply of made a mistake. At most, a person in a non-authoritative position should ever directly do in a situation where they think someone is breaking policies, is politely inform them of the site policies, and if the situation continues, notify an Admin and let them handle it, as there is little else of use you can actually do.

As to misinterpreting the rule, it's easy to do, as not every situation fit's into the set rules perfectly, many situation have grey aspects to them and are not always easily resolved by a set forth rule, and need some one in a position of authority to properly resolve the situation. --[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 18:57, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:TFWiki doesn't have a massive problem with non-admin users giving advice to new users if it's basic stuff like 'please don't remove captions/add scores of new captions'. Admins aren't always around, and sometimes new users just need pointing to our policy pages. That being said, Escargon, you can sometimes be a bit quick to jump down people's throats over stuff like this. Please try and remain calm and courteous when engaging with other users. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:01, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
::Alright. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:04, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Well how many Transformers Wiki's are their?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:A couple. But we're the original one. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:31, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

That sort of takes the wind out of that arguments sails.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:43, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:No, it doesn't. We've been around since 2006. We're far more succesful than any other attempt at making a wiki for TF. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:47, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Do you understand why I said it takes the wind out of the argument?--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 21:49, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

In response to comment on abates page

While those are notable achivements, I've been part of much smaller wiki's and wed communitys who can make similar claims, being invited to events and having content copied for outside use. Any communit of of fair size can recize and invint to big events and copying of content, if that is the case, unfortuently happens alot, many people take the easiest way out and instead of using their own ideas, take them from other sources.

As for your estimated user count, as it stands now from 2008 to now, about 13000 users have registered, so a little over 10000, rather than tens of thousands. Now grand majority of those who have registered have not bothered to make a user page, indicating a "fly by night" user who only made a hand full of edits before dropping off, and didn't stick around. I don't know the amount of users who activly take part on the site, but it wouldn't be anywhere near tens of thousands.

But I'd still like a response to my early question, do you know why I said it takes the winds out of that particular arguments sails? I'd like to know if you know what I meant, and if so why you think I was wrong.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:07, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:Would you knock it off? You've already been told by the owner to stop it. Nobody here is going to agree with you and these other wiki's. Just stop. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:29, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

I've moved past that and will not pursue the humor issue at this time, but I do want to know what you though my earlier point was invalid. I feel that if you counter one of my point, that you should explain why. If you want to debet me, fine, but I want to be countered with facts and hard evidence, not "No it doesn't" and hyperbole--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:34, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:Oh my god knock it off. I was guessing the numbers, not hyperboling, and you're still persuing it. You think that just because there's only a few TFWiki's it doesn't matter we're the best. Look at all those other wiki's. They're shit, like almost every wiki.
:Stop persueing this. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 23:37, 18 July 2014 (EDT)

Well, no I'm not. I've left that issue alone. Now I'm asking why you didn't considered my earlier point valid at the time. Now I simply wish to know if you actully had a point to counter my earlier comment or not. Now it has become a curiosity, not somthing I want to use to achive an end. And I will point out that wasn't my point when I made the comment.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 23:44, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:EDIT: And techcially, you were using hyperbole, given that your stated numbers were vastily larger than the real number......and I'm pretty sure hyperboling isn't a proper word.--[[User:8492nd|8492nd]] ([[User talk:8492nd|talk]]) 00:03, 19 July 2014 (EDT)

== Swoop ==

Did Hasbro actually explicitly state they still have the name "Swoop"? Or are you extrapolating that from the explanation for AOE Strafe being named that way because of his two heads? I just checked the USPTO website - two entries for "Swoop" filed by Hasbro are listed as "dead", though that only means the name is not ®. It could still be ™ - but then I found entries for "Swoop Coupe" filed by Mattel and a goddamn COMPANY named "Swoop LLC" operating in the "toys" field that has its company name trademarked, both listed as "live" on the USPTO website. Knowing Hasbro's lawyers, they wouldn't touch the name with a ten foot pole at this point.

So again I ask, do you know of an explicit "We still have the name" statement by Hasbro, or are you simply basing an assumption on the fact that "trademark problems" was not explicitly cited as the reason for the name change for AOE?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 07:33, 27 July 2014 (EDT)

== "utterly stupid" ==

try not to be exactly that insulting when interacting with other people, please and thank you --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 01:35, 21 September 2014 (EDT)
:Yeah, that was rude. Sorry. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 01:43, 21 September 2014 (EDT)

==Formatting titles==
Quick reminder to follow the [[Help:Style guide#Titles|style guide]] when referring to the titles of things. e.g. episode names are wrapped in quotes, franchise names are italicised, and so on. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 10:51, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
:Okay. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:54, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

== Fire in the Dark Mini-Cons ==

May I consult with you on organizing the Fire in the Dark Mini-Cons since that community discussion seems to have died? I'm currently trying to figure out how to do [[Reptix]] and [[Ironlunge]] as they are the only beastformer volume 4 Micron Boosters to have already appeared in fiction, as ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' Predacons. As BWU appears to lack Mini-Cons (though Maximals/Predacons are roughly the same size as Micromasters), would it be appropriate to split the pages and classify the Aurex Mini-Cons as being associated with the original toys while the Primax Predacons are repurposings of those toys? This thought occurred to me because Ask Vector Prime classified the quasi-ROTF promotional [[Mighty Mini-Con Team]] as Aurex characters, which rather makes sense given the relative absence of Mini-Cons in Tyran. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 11:36, 28 August 2015 (EDT)
:*shrugs* I guess. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:11, 28 August 2015 (EDT)

== Taking you up on your offer ==

Any idea who '''[[:File:WhoamI-HOS3.jpg|this]]''' might be? He is one of the Autobots who appear behind John Henry, near the end of the third chapter/issue. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 22:42, 2 September 2015 (EDT)
:Sorry I'm late! School stuff. Anyway, the stacks on his head remind me of Magnus. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:20, 3 September 2015 (EDT)
::Ah, yes. Sometimes these things seem so obvious once they're pointed out to me. Thanks! --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] ([[User talk:Ascendron|talk]]) 17:06, 3 September 2015 (EDT)
:::You're welcome! (P.S. it appears the Legends comics are back up.) [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:07, 3 September 2015 (EDT)

==Ask Vector Prime==
Are you an Ask Vector Prime writer, like Jim Sorenson?--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 07:55, 11 September 2015 (EDT)
:Yes. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:53, 11 September 2015 (EDT)
::oh ok thanks for answering.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 10:09, 12 September 2015 (EDT)

Since you have transcribed other videos from the Ask Vector Prime Facebook, would you also be able to transcribe the [https://www.facebook.com/AxiomNewsRook/videos/995397140503906/ Hammerstrike video] of Rook's Facebook for [[Rook - Axiom Nexus News: Investigative Journalist/src|this source page]]? I tried to at first but the more muffled parts became very hard for me to comprehend. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 01:41, 1 November 2015 (EDT)
==Optimus Prime==
Please stop reverting my edits. Please.

==Earth-7642==
I thought it wasn't official because it was only in Marvunapp but actually that designation was in one of the Marvel Handbooks.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 19:53, 11 December 2015 (EST)
:It may be official for Marvel, but it's never been stated ANYWHERE else besides that Wikia that the Transformers crossovers was a part of it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:54, 11 December 2015 (EST)
::"It may be official for Marvel" The note started with "In Marvel continuity", the note was basically about the Marvel side of things. Whatever though, I'm just saying.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 15:21, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
:::I dunno why you're bringing this back up 2 years later, but having since found the listing in question, literally all the handbook says is that its the one where Spider-Man met Superman. The whole TF things comes from the the Marvel Addendum, and if you actually read the notes on the article, the author said that adding the non-DC stuff to it was just because he felt like it, not that it was actually official. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:27, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
::::(I just stumbled upon this conversation, that's why I brough it up again) Nevermind I read your post wrong. I thought you meant that while the NAvTF story being part of 7642 may be official for Marvel, it's not official for Transformers (while the note itself was about the Marvel side of things). Sorry for the confusion.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 15:49, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

==Kmc==
Why did you revert my edit to [[Dissolution Part 2: Anomie]]? I think a "sigh" doesn't quit explain things.
--[[User:Kmc|Kmc]] ([[User talk:Kmc|talk]]) 21:50, 2 February 2017 (EST)
:I think she's either getting at the irrelevance of mentioning the universal stream designation or the lack of clarity in the note about what Rodimus is wrong about. I have added back in a clearer note about Rodimus's recurring idiocy. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 12:23, 4 February 2017 (EST)

==List of universal streams==
Was there something wrong with adding "our" Quadwal universe to the list? It's on the Quadwal page. If I did something wrong with the formatting, please let me know, I've never added to a wiki page before. [[User:FirstStrike1177|FirstStrike1177]] ([[User talk:FirstStrike1177|talk]]) 20:33, 18 December 2017 (EST)
:Because it was never called out ever at all in fiction. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:02, 18 December 2017 (EST)
Doesn't he make references to our Quadwal time, just never a specific universe number? "Our reality" is even listed in the Notes on the [[Quadwal]] page in this wiki.[[User:FirstStrike1177|FirstStrike1177]] ([[User talk:FirstStrike1177|talk]]) 21:08, 18 December 2017 (EST)
Would it have been more accurate to put Quadwal Cluster instead of an unknown number since that's what Vector Prime typically says when referring to our universe? I just thought that by Quadwal Cluster he meant most/if not all Quadwal universes.[[User:FirstStrike1177|FirstStrike1177]] ([[User talk:FirstStrike1177|talk]]) 21:15, 18 December 2017 (EST)
:The notes logically extrapolate that. If the universe wasn't called out, we don't need an article on it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:46, 18 December 2017 (EST)
I wasn't making an article on it, just noting that we're classified under the Quadwal classification on the list of known universes. If someone hasn't read all of Ask Vector Prime, they don't know that Quadwal is a joke on the fourth wall, and they want to know if our universe even got a classification from Vector Prime (aka me for a good thirty minutes) having it noted that he did in fact say we're of the Quadwal Cluster on the main universe list is a time saver. [[User:FirstStrike1177|FirstStrike1177]] ([[User talk:FirstStrike1177|talk]]) 22:19, 18 December 2017 (EST)
:What she's trying to say to you is that the list is only for stream designations that have been officially and formally (or as "formally" as they were given like in such cases as "Aurex Something Something" and "Primax yadda-yadda Zeta") given in official Transformers media. We know that our real world exists in the Quadwal Cluster, but it's official stream designation was never actually ever given, meaning that we can't include it in this list at all regardless of our knowing that it does exist anyway. It's the same reason that we don't have stream designations listed for things like the Beast Machines cartoon, the Victory cartoon, any of the live action films after the first one, the 2015 Robots in Disguise cartoon, or pretty much any piece of Transformers media that isn't on that list. We know that all official Transformers media does exist, but not everything has an official stream designation that has been given by a piece of official Transformers media, and therefore, everything that doesn't have an official stream designation is left out of the list since the list is only for stream designations that have been officially given. Otherwise, we'd have to start making up stream designations for everything, and that's not what this Wiki is supposed to do. Besides, the very first line of description text in the Quadwal section ("[[Transformers timeline|A strangely divergent continuity family.]]") already links out to the article for our real world anyway, so the fact that our real world is represented by/inside the Quadwal Cluster is already indicated by that line of text on the main list page. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 01:26, 19 December 2017 (EST)

==Why?==
Please explain why you revert just about everything I contribute on this wiki? I do not understand. At least people who reverse my edits explain. [[User:Lucky Hugs|Lucky Hugs]] ([[User talk:Lucky Hugs|talk]]) 23:43, 19 December 2017 (EST)
:Your edits to the CNN page are written out of universe. They're supposed to be written in universe. And your first couple edits shouldn't be adding captions. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 00:03, 20 December 2017 (EST)

Could you please elaborate on the "out of universe" part? What do you mean by "out of universe"? How can I fix it and why didn't YOU fix it? And I do understand the caption part. [[User:Lucky Hugs|Lucky Hugs]] ([[User talk:Lucky Hugs|talk]]) 00:07, 20 December 2017 (EST)
:You're writing it with things like "in Revenge of the Fallen." It's supposed to be written in universe. You shouldn't expect others to fix your mistakes, either. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 00:14, 20 December 2017 (EST)

I see, but all you had to do was remove a sentence and fix some grammar to fit to that sentence removal. [[User:Lucky Hugs|Lucky Hugs]] ([[User talk:Lucky Hugs|talk]]) 00:17, 20 December 2017 (EST)
:...People have lives outside of editing wikis. I was working, so it was easier at the time to revert your changes. And you're still not correctly formatting it: articles that aren't episode or comic summaries are always written in past tense. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 00:21, 20 December 2017 (EST)

I conjugated as much as I could see that could be conjugated to the past tense. [[User:Lucky Hugs|Lucky Hugs]] ([[User talk:Lucky Hugs|talk]]) 00:26, 20 December 2017 (EST)

==Grammar==
I hadn't really taken a look at any of your synopses before, simply because it's a lot of text. But I glanced over [[The Dark Heart of Sandokan|this one]] and it was just... hard to read.

I'm not a proofreader and I hate feeling like I'm nitpicking or whatever, especially when you're doing such good work and especially when you've put whole orders of magnitude more work into this wiki than me, but it took me over half an hour to comb through this one and fix the errors. I'm still not really happy with how it turned out, because one way or another I have very little formal understanding of grammar and I feel like a lot of things slipped by me. Also, I'm really not sure how much of what's wrong with this synopsis was just carried over from the old version.

Recurring errors:
* Ship names were not italicised.
* Sentences often had far more commas and clauses than they should've - like, there were some extremely long sentences in there that really should have been cut in half.
* Commas were often placed on the wrong side of connectives (i.e. like "I went to the store, and approaching the counter, said hi to the shopkeeper." instead of "I went to the store and, approaching the counter, said hi to the shopkeeper.").
* This is where my lack of formal training comes into play, but you used lots of -ing verb like "turning", "blasting", "running" etc. particularly at the start of sentences. Didn't read right to me, especially if more than one was used in a single sentence.
* Sentence subjects were often unclear, usually as a result of the above errors.

Please carry on doing what you're doing, but maybe take the time to carefully read back what you have both as you finish each sentence, and as you finish each section. If you really don't have time I'll carry on trying to do my best to clean up, because I'd rather see this content up than not at all.

I don't have time to go and check any of the older synopses, but I'd just leave those anyway and carry on with the new content.[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 05:54, 5 February 2018 (EST)
:Yeah, that wasn't my best summary. It might of been just the general eh-ness of the story, but I'll remember to try and read through in later stuff, since I do know I made a few mistakes in older summaries here and there. Think I'll go over those ones too when I get a chance. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 06:02, 5 February 2018 (EST)
:Thank you, by the way, for fixing that up. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 09:09, 5 February 2018 (EST)
::No problem - like I'm say, I'm happy enough to keep doing it.[[User:The Wadapan|The Wadapan]] ([[User talk:The Wadapan|talk]]) 11:51, 5 February 2018 (EST)

== Upcoming comic releases ==

I guess this is mostly towards the upcoming ''Lost Light'' issue but I guess it can apply to any other comic really. How come the articles aren't created for the comics until after the issues have been released? To an extent, I get that it might be done because the issues are too far away and they might even end up getting cancelled. That's why for example on Wikipedia, a movie that has only started production and is to be released in like, 3 years, gets a draft rather than an article. But in the case of ''Lost Light'' #16, the issue comes out tomorrow. Would it be better to already have at least some of the article ready? [[User:Panagiotis Zois|Panagiotis Zois]] ([[User talk:Panagiotis Zois|talk]]) 07:59, 13 March 2018 (EDT)
:We have a guy who does all of the articles for the IDW comics on the day they're released. Putting up empty skeleton pages serves no point. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 08:12, 13 March 2018 (EDT)

== SG Sludge/Kakuryu/Doryu ==

Any chance you'd have links to Gauntt's comments on these guys?

(Also, nice work on D&D, very tidy now.) [[User:Crossfire|'''Cross''']][[User talk:Crossfire|'''fire''']] 03:14, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
:Can't access Twitter right now, so I'll have to wait till I get home, but yeah, I can link them. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 07:34, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
::Here we are: [https://twitter.com/alexisverityc/status/975202333201137664] [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:16, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
:::Very interesting, thank you! Do you think we should add this to the D&D page? [[User:Crossfire|'''Cross''']][[User talk:Crossfire|'''fire''']] 11:55, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
::::I'll probably add it to their articles once I get around to creating them (eventually). [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:12, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

==Car Robots names==
IS there some reason you're unilaterally changing them now [[Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal#RID/Car Robots names|after you didn't discuss it much?]] [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:10, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
: I'll remind you I had explicit permission from M Sipher. I've been meaning to get around to it, but I've been busy. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:12, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
::Sipher isn't the only person here and the way you're going around it (leaving some names like Gigatron) makes no sense. Why is this an issue when BWU and IDW have given those characters names that aren't their RID ones? [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 13:20, 6 August 2018 (EDT)
:::Sipher is an admin. I only left in Gigatron and the like in as a compromise; I'm fully willing to convert those names as well. As for BWU, it's given characters aside from RID/CR ones different names, and, as stated in the past, is a mish-mash of stuff occupying it's own unique corner, and shouldn't influence pages one way or another. Gigatron's only called that in IDW because of Megatron; practically every other RID character that's show up used the English name. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:26, 6 August 2018 (EDT)

== Unused images ==

I've been going through the uncategorized images trying to sort as many as I can into their proper place, and I found a handful of images you uploaded around a year and a half ago that aren't currently being used on any pages. I'm not sure where they're from, so I was hoping you could at least tell me where they came from so I can apply the proper template and put them somewhere until we can figure out what to do with them.
* [[:File:SGSunbow.jpg]]
* [[:File:Sgtranstech.jpg]]
* [[:File:SGTransTechAirazor.jpg]]
* [[:File:TTRhinoxFinalGoodbye.jpg]]
Thanks much. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 22:59, 17 November 2018 (EST)
:...Aw, shit, I never did get around to adding those.
:They're from [[Epilogue Two]]. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 18:22, 18 November 2018 (EST)

== In defense of NexusShard17 ==

I don't think it's entirely fair to call NexusShard17's work done "for no reason". In the case of the Manatronatee image, he probably removed it because he assumed Saix had tagged it for deletion for good reason, something that I do not believe you caught. In the case of Arcee / Chun-Li, he must have been confused on whether the figure represented Transformer scanning human or the other way around. After all, it's not that hard on this site to get carried away while tackling a tedious set of problems, and Nexus Shard17 does handle a lot of grunt work. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 18:39, 17 December 2018 (EST)
:Ah, I see. My apologies. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:21, 17 December 2018 (EST)

==Dazlestrike==

Excuse me, I'm trying to make a page for Dazlestrike, the [[Lionizer (G1)#Generations|Lionizer]] repaint, but I'm unsure if he's an Autobot or Decepticon. I was wondering if you know what faction he is, if you don't then that's fine. Thanks.--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 14:38, 29 January 2019 (EST)
:Why are you asking them specifically? You should put your question [[Talk:Dazzlestrike|here]]. [[User:Notirishman|--notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 21:57, 29 January 2019 (EST)
::Sorry, just thought I'd ask someone at the wiki, however, I honestly do wonder what I was thinking. --[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 14:33, 30 January 2019 (EST)

==About the Forged To Fight Windblade stats==
Did I ''not'' just say they were on '''every''' character page? We did it for [[Transformers: Earth Wars]], we're doing it for Forged To Fight, so please stop deleting important Game info. Thanks! [[User:Xaapro213|Xaapro213]] ([[User talk:Xaapro213|talk]]) 20:24, 6 May 2019 (EDT)
:You clearly didn't read my edit summary. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:50, 6 May 2019 (EDT)
: For 1. You just edited out Important Game Info I got. I was watching some footage of the Earth Wars Campaign Updates, and you just deleted that. For 2. What you're basically asking, is for me to go into every single character page that we've compiled for Battle Tactics, Earth Wars, and Forged To Fight, make a separate SRC page for each game, including Game details, stats, who is strong against who, and what not? Not including all the stuff like Character Growths, Stat bonuses, Rankings, Levels, Star ratings, and whatever else? Because that's basically what I'm getting. [[User:Xaapro213|Xaapro213]] ([[User talk:Xaapro213|talk]]) 20:59, 6 May 2019 (EDT)
::Yes.
::Character pages are not for those stats. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:09, 6 May 2019 (EDT)
:::The stats are pointless, unreadable, an absolute eyesore, and not the sort of thing we should keep catalogued on the wiki. We don't keep Tech Spec numbers here, either. It's best to keep each FTF section based on the corresponding stories. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:25, 6 May 2019 (EDT)
::: That’s fine. That’s ok. Fine by me. This is totally fine. Not like I’ve spent the last 2 years compiling game stats for Forged To Fight, now for it to be rendered completely and utterly pointless. Ok. FIne. Totally fine. Thanks. [[User:Xaapro213|Xaapro213]] ([[User talk:Xaapro213|talk]]) 21:32, 6 May 2019 (EDT)
::::There happy now? I Purged every character statistics page and replaced it with a stub. Now I gotta replay every chapter of Forged To Fight's Campaign along with replaying the monthly Legacy series to get Story info! [[User:Xaapro213|Xaapro213]] ([[User talk:Xaapro213|talk]]) 21:53, 6 May 2019 (EDT)
:::::...Did you miss the bit where I said you could copy-paste those on a /src page, separate from the character articles? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:57, 6 May 2019 (EDT)

== Hachette covers ==

>Hey, I don't know if Hachette has used the Dreamwave MTMTE profile for Getaway or Banzai-Tron at all,

>but I can tell you that they were done by Dan Khanna, rather than the usual Guido or Figueroa. Escargon (talk) 19:35, 22 September 2019 (EDT)

:I looked over the covers. Which ones were you talking about? I didn't see any covers featuring either of those characters. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 10:20, 23 September 2019 (EDT)
::My apologies; I had thought I had seen one for the Mutineer's Arc of Lost Light with Getaway on the cover, but I was mistaken. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 10:23, 23 September 2019 (EDT)

:::Gotcha. And were you referring to the Bludgeon art, as opposed to Banzai-tron? [[File:DefinitiveG1Collection v20.jpg]] --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 10:45, 23 September 2019 (EDT)
:::Nah, I did mean Banzai-Tron; I mentioned him cause he was the only other one Khanna did that got published, and figured it was possible he might show up at some point. 10:53, 23 September 2019 (EDT)

== Bruticus ==

>Hello, I see you reverted my edit. If you could please tell me what differentiates the plot hole I pointed out from the rest of the ones that are allowed to be listed in the continuity errors section, that would be much appreciated, as your comment on the revision could be just as easily applied to any point in any continuity errors section on any page in the wiki. Thanks! [[User:Skywarp|Skywarp]] ([[User talk:Skywarp|talk]]) 11:39, 29 September 2019 (EDT)Skywarp
:Honestly, I think that you're note was fine looking back, it just could have done a bit of paring down. I think a lot of the cartoon sections can have a look over for what really is a continuity error and what isn't. Feel free to re-add it; I'll come back and pare it down a bit later. Apologies for my overly-zealous take down of it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 12:08, 29 September 2019 (EDT)

== TLK HMS Aliance Bot Robot Mode ==

Hi I was a bit confused by the response to the removal of my note, just need to clarify my comments on the concept art of the HMS Alliance resembling a scuba diver like Seaspray's ROTF HFTD Voyager figure released in 2010 I think that's when it was.
Just in case I should ask to see because I was at first taken aback by there being two concept arts in that book with HMS in their name.

One is on pg. 390 the "HMS Alliance" and I think on pg. 392 or 391 there is another robot mode named HMS Victory. They both look completely different.
: I removed the note mostly because I’m waiting for a scan of it to add it to the article. There were also a few things wrong with it and at the time I was at work, so I just removed it. I’ll add it back in and fix it a bit tonight. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:44, 6 December 2019 (EST)

== File:RID18 cvrB.jpg ==

Why'd you change the description for this cover? It's incorrect and I can't undo it. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 23:19, 6 December 2019 (EST)
:That was an accident on my part. Never edit the wiki when you're tired. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 08:53, 7 December 2019 (EST)
::Indeed! Thanks. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 10:47, 7 December 2019 (EST)

== Question ==
Thank you for reverting my changes, I'm really new to this wiki and I don't know what goes where. so where do I put the hellion accent?--[[User:Applefart|Applefart]] 20:50, December 10 (EST)
:Probably be best on the notes section of Flywheels' page. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 21:27, 15 December 2019 (EST)

==IDW 2019 #1==
The original sentence is both redundant and confusing. It says literally the exact same thing twice - except for listing two different final issues. Why is the longer version better than just picking one of the halves? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 22:31, 15 February 2020 (EST)
:mmmm. Compromise completed. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:38, 15 February 2020 (EST)

== Bad decision choices. ==

You made a bad decision for taking down some of the warrior client files for certain unreleased characters from Transformers Universe. Those were the closest thing to a bio those characters have. [[User:StormJet|StormJet]] ([[User talk:StormJet|talk]]) 14:36, 26 April 2020 (EDT)
:You mean the ones that you copied pasted directly from them without even trying to rewrite them in the slightest? You're goddamned right I did.
:But hey, since you clearly understood how to search through the history to find out who did so you could come to my talk page and whine all passive-aggressive about it, you can find those things you copy pasted in the history, rewrite them yourself, and then put them back in! Unless that's too much work for the likes of you-oh wait, it clearly is, because you've been told off about it before. Oh well! Guess they'll stay that way until someone fixes it, since you clearly can't! [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:43, 26 April 2020 (EDT)

== Animated edits. ==

Hi, terribly sorry, but might I ask why you got rid of the notes I put on Animated Hoist, Lyzack, and Clippers pages? [[User:LordCringeTheCringiest|LordCringeTheCringiest]] ([[User talk:LordCringeTheCringiest|talk]]) 22:05, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
:None of those are canon. Derrick J. Wyatt DID design them, but they're fanart years after the fact. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:06, 27 June 2020 (EDT)
::Fair, sorry about that, I just thought it would be interesting information. [[User:LordCringeTheCringiest|LordCringeTheCringiest]] ([[User talk:LordCringeTheCringiest|talk]]) 22:22, 27 June 2020 (EDT)

User talk:Escargon

2020-06-28T02:05:05Z

LordCringeTheCringiest:

Lyzack (Animated)

2020-06-28T01:12:08Z

LordCringeTheCringiest: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{noname-unconfirmed}}
{{disambig2|the ''Animated'' Decepticon|the ''Victory'' Decepticon|Lyzack (Victory)}}
:''Lyzack is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:LyzackAnimated-CAA.jpg|thumb|upright=1.65|Nya.]]
'''Lyzack''' is a [[Decepticon]].

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon continuity===
Lyzack must have been very popular at [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]], as she was on their menu. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The Complete AllSpark Almanac|The Complete AllSpark Almanac}}

==Notes==
* Around 5 years later, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] would give her a complete body using [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]]/[[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorms]] [[Body-type]] with the help of artist [[Josh Perez]], which can be found on his [https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1276686069921013761/ Twitter].

[[Category:Almanac-only characters]]
[[Category:Animated Decepticons]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]

Clipper (Animated)

2020-06-28T01:11:38Z

LordCringeTheCringiest: /* Notes */

{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig2|the ''Animated'' Autobot|the ''Victory'' Autobot|Clipper (Victory)}}

:''Clipper is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:ClipperAnimated-CAA.jpg|thumb|upright=1.75|"She's just a regular Malibu Stacy with a stupid, cheap hat! She still embodies all the awful stereotypes she did before."
 "But she's got a new hat!"]]

'''Clipper''' is an [[Autobot]]. And unlike most in [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|her home universe]], she has a [[Humanization#Questionable body parts|nose]]!

==Fiction==
===''The AllSpark Almanac''===
Clipper must have been very popular at [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]], as she was on their menu. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}
{{-}}
==Notes==
[[Image:Animated Clipper.jpg|thumb|upright=0.65]]
* Clipper was first seen in an earlier version of the [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]] drinks menu in the ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II]].'' In ''[[Transformers Animated: The Complete AllSpark Almanac|The Complete AllSpark Almanac]]'', Clipper is given new art.*(
* Around 5 years later, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] would give her a complete body with the help of artist [[Josh Perez]], which can be found on his [https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1276686069921013761/ Twitter].

[[Category:Animated Autobots]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]

Lyzack (Animated)

2020-06-28T01:07:52Z

LordCringeTheCringiest: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{noname-unconfirmed}}
{{disambig2|the ''Animated'' Decepticon|the ''Victory'' Decepticon|Lyzack (Victory)}}
:''Lyzack is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:LyzackAnimated-CAA.jpg|thumb|upright=1.65|Nya.]]
'''Lyzack''' is a [[Decepticon]].

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon continuity===
Lyzack must have been very popular at [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]], as she was on their menu. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The Complete AllSpark Almanac|The Complete AllSpark Almanac}}

==Notes==
Around 5 years later, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] would give her a complete body using [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]]/[[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorms]] [[Body-type]] with the help of artist [[Josh Perez]], which can be found on his [https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1276686069921013761/ Twitter].

[[Category:Almanac-only characters]]
[[Category:Animated Decepticons]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]

Lyzack (Animated)

2020-06-28T01:07:15Z

LordCringeTheCringiest: /* Notes */

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{noname-unconfirmed}}
{{disambig2|the ''Animated'' Decepticon|the ''Victory'' Decepticon|Lyzack (Victory)}}
:''Lyzack is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:LyzackAnimated-CAA.jpg|thumb|upright=1.65|Nya.]]
'''Lyzack''' is a [[Decepticon]].

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon continuity===
Lyzack must have been very popular at [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]], as she was on their menu. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The Complete AllSpark Almanac|The Complete AllSpark Almanac}}

==Notes==
5 Years later, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] would give her a complete body using [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]]/[[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorms]] [[Body-type]] with the help of artist [[Josh Perez]], which can be found on his [https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1276686069921013761/ Twitter].

[[Category:Almanac-only characters]]
[[Category:Animated Decepticons]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]

Lyzack (Animated)

2020-06-28T00:59:25Z

LordCringeTheCringiest:

{{factions|decepticon}}
{{noname-unconfirmed}}
{{disambig2|the ''Animated'' Decepticon|the ''Victory'' Decepticon|Lyzack (Victory)}}
:''Lyzack is an [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:LyzackAnimated-CAA.jpg|thumb|upright=1.65|Nya.]]
'''Lyzack''' is a [[Decepticon]].

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon continuity===
Lyzack must have been very popular at [[Maccadam's Old Oil House]], as she was on their menu. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The Complete AllSpark Almanac|The Complete AllSpark Almanac}}

==Notes==
Years later, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] would give her a complete body using [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]]/[[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorms]] [[Body-type]] with the help of artist [[Josh Perez]], which can be found on his [https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1276686069921013761/ Twitter]

[[Category:Almanac-only characters]]
[[Category:Animated Decepticons]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]

Nova Storm (G1)

2020-06-28T00:43:03Z

LordCringeTheCringiest:

{{faction|decepticon|{{factions/icons|custom=Shocksymb.jpg|cSize=40px|cLink=Cybertron Guard}}|ascenticon}}
{{disambig2|the Generation 1 Decepticon|the ''Cyberverse'' Decepticon|Nova Storm (Cyberverse)}}
:''Nova Storm is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Rainmakers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Nova Storm is the yellow one on the right.]]

One of the formidable [[Rainmaker]]s, '''Nova Storm''' is equipped with armor that allows him to survive volcanic environments or even the {{w|chromosphere}} of a star for short periods of time. In some continuities, Nova Storm is sometimes made female.<ref>[https://twitter.com/TransformersTCG/status/1169318317867159552] Tweet by @TransformersTCG, 4 September 2019</ref>

==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
[[File:DivideandConquer RainmakersJetModes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0|]]
When a group of [[Autobot]]s (and [[Chip Chase]]) journeyed to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to fetch a [[cosmitron]] for a wounded [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] sent the [[Rainmaker]] trio to make things difficult for our heroes with some [[acid rain]].

Guess what? They failed. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
[[File:Nova_Storm_AskVectorPrime.jpg|thumb|right|That spear is specifically for stabbing people who call him [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].]]

The Rainmakers were among the deadliest subordinates of [[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] on Cybertron and Earth in many [[universal stream]]s.

The [[Primax 509.28 Epsilon]] iteration of Nova Storm once nearly hit [[Vector Prime]] with his [[Trilithium Crystal Cannon]]s. This Nova is one of the few bots able to withstand the presence of [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/13}}

===2019 IDW continuity===

During the [[War of the Threefold Spark]], the Rainmakers were a military unit including Acid Storm, Ion Storm, and Nova Storm.

When the [[Ascenticon Guard]] chose to swell their ranks in the modern era, Ion Storm and Nova Storm reconnected with the existing guardsman Acid Storm, a reunion that would be seen as foreboding to some. {{storylink|Rise of the Decepticons: All Fall Down}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:TF-Generations-WFC-S-Rainmaker-3-pack-Nova-Storm.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Am I Sunstorm or not?]]
*'''Seeker Acid Storm''' / '''Seeker Ion Storm''' / '''Seeker Nova Storm''' (Multi-pack, 2019)
**''ID number'': '''WFC-S54'''
**''Accessories:'' 6 "HPI [[Null-ray|Null-Ray]] Laser Launchers"
:This ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege (toyline)|Siege]]'' three-pack version of "Seeker Nova Storm" is a redeco of [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]] from the same line, transforming from a heavily Generation 1-inspired robot to a Cybertronian 'tetrajet' based on the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]]' appearance in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" and back; although the jet mode has the robot legs sticking out from the undercarriage. She includes two "HPI Null-Ray Laser Launchers," which can mount on her upper arms, or under the wings in jet mode, and comes with "[[Acid Storm (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Seeker Acid Storm]]" and "[[Ion Storm#Toys|Seeker Ion Storm]]", all based on their appearance in "[[Divide and Conquer]]". All three feature battle damage and use the smirkless head sculpt used by Starscream.

:This set was made available at general retail in US Target stores without prior announcement from Hasbro. Release venues elsewhere have yet to be announced.

{{-}}

==Merchandise==
===The Loyal Subjects===
[[File:TLSRainmakers.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Make it Rain. (Nova Storm is on the left)]]
* '''Rainmakers''' (2013)
**''Accessories:'' Pegged wings, blasters
:''[[The Loyal Subjects]]'' Nova Storm (though he had not yet received his name) is a 3-inch non-transforming vinyl figure designed by [[Les Schetkoe]]. He comes in the "Rainmakers" set alongside [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] and [[Ion Storm]]. The set comes in a retro box and was released in a limited run of 500 pieces.
{{--}}
===Transformers Trading Card Game===
[[File:W4RaiderNovaStorm.jpg|thumb]]
*'''Raider Nova Storm//Infantry•Combustion Specialist''' (2019)
**'''Wave 4: War for Cybertron: Siege II'''
**''Rarity: '''''CT'''
**''Card Number: '''''T36/T52'''
**''Stars: ''7

{{-}}

==Notes==
* Despite the many different designations thought up by fans, the yellow and the blue Rainmakers went officially unnamed for over 30 years until a [[2015]] entry of the Facebook edition of "[[Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime]]" by [[Betsy Blackie]] and [[Brandy Dixon]] named the yellow one Nova Storm and the blue one [[Ion Storm]].
* The term "rainmakers" was originally used by [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] as a colloquial description of their actions. However, repeated [[Fandom|fan usage]] turned this into a widely accepted name for the group, which was eventually [[Canonizing|made official]] as such by Hasbro's bio for [[Acid Storm (G1)#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Acid Storm]].
*A common piece of [[fanon]] identified the all-yellow Rainmaker as the partially yellow [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. However, even taking into consideration the haphazard coloring typically given to generic Seekers, chances were in favour of their not being the same guy. After being asked the question during the August 2010 Q&A, Hasbro confirmed that the yellow Rainmaker was not Sunstorm, but did not give him a name at that time.<ref>[http://www.asmzine.com/geekly-rewind/2010/07/26/hasbro-transformers-qa-july-2010-answers August 2010 Q&A on ASMzine:] ''"When the right opportunities arise, the other Seekers seen in the original television series such as Acid Storm have been named and given official backgrounds. Unfortunately, not every character that has appeared on screen has made the transition into other forms of media or even product. Because of this fact, there has been no official backgrounds created for these characters."''</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Gender-switch characters]]
[[Category:Generation 1 cartoon Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Seekers]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Decepticons]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege Decepticons]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Decepticons]]

Nova Storm (G1)

2020-06-28T00:42:33Z

LordCringeTheCringiest:

{{faction|decepticon|{{factions/icons|custom=Shocksymb.jpg|cSize=40px|cLink=Cybertron Guard}}|ascenticon}}
{{disambig2|the Generation 1 Decepticon|the ''Cyberverse'' Decepticon|Nova Storm (Cyberverse)}}
:''Nova Storm is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Rainmakers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Nova Storm is the yellow one on the right.]]

One of the formidable [[Rainmaker]]s, '''Nova Storm''' is equipped with armor that allows him to survive volcanic environments or even the {{w|chromosphere}} of a star for short periods of time. In some continuities, Nova Storm sometimes made is female.<ref>[https://twitter.com/TransformersTCG/status/1169318317867159552] Tweet by @TransformersTCG, 4 September 2019</ref>

==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
[[File:DivideandConquer RainmakersJetModes.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.0|]]
When a group of [[Autobot]]s (and [[Chip Chase]]) journeyed to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to fetch a [[cosmitron]] for a wounded [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] sent the [[Rainmaker]] trio to make things difficult for our heroes with some [[acid rain]].

Guess what? They failed. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
[[File:Nova_Storm_AskVectorPrime.jpg|thumb|right|That spear is specifically for stabbing people who call him [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]].]]

The Rainmakers were among the deadliest subordinates of [[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]] on Cybertron and Earth in many [[universal stream]]s.

The [[Primax 509.28 Epsilon]] iteration of Nova Storm once nearly hit [[Vector Prime]] with his [[Trilithium Crystal Cannon]]s. This Nova is one of the few bots able to withstand the presence of [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/13}}

===2019 IDW continuity===

During the [[War of the Threefold Spark]], the Rainmakers were a military unit including Acid Storm, Ion Storm, and Nova Storm.

When the [[Ascenticon Guard]] chose to swell their ranks in the modern era, Ion Storm and Nova Storm reconnected with the existing guardsman Acid Storm, a reunion that would be seen as foreboding to some. {{storylink|Rise of the Decepticons: All Fall Down}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:TF-Generations-WFC-S-Rainmaker-3-pack-Nova-Storm.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Am I Sunstorm or not?]]
*'''Seeker Acid Storm''' / '''Seeker Ion Storm''' / '''Seeker Nova Storm''' (Multi-pack, 2019)
**''ID number'': '''WFC-S54'''
**''Accessories:'' 6 "HPI [[Null-ray|Null-Ray]] Laser Launchers"
:This ''[[War for Cybertron: Siege (toyline)|Siege]]'' three-pack version of "Seeker Nova Storm" is a redeco of [[Starscream (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Starscream]] from the same line, transforming from a heavily Generation 1-inspired robot to a Cybertronian 'tetrajet' based on the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]]' appearance in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]" and back; although the jet mode has the robot legs sticking out from the undercarriage. She includes two "HPI Null-Ray Laser Launchers," which can mount on her upper arms, or under the wings in jet mode, and comes with "[[Acid Storm (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Seeker Acid Storm]]" and "[[Ion Storm#Toys|Seeker Ion Storm]]", all based on their appearance in "[[Divide and Conquer]]". All three feature battle damage and use the smirkless head sculpt used by Starscream.

:This set was made available at general retail in US Target stores without prior announcement from Hasbro. Release venues elsewhere have yet to be announced.

{{-}}

==Merchandise==
===The Loyal Subjects===
[[File:TLSRainmakers.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Make it Rain. (Nova Storm is on the left)]]
* '''Rainmakers''' (2013)
**''Accessories:'' Pegged wings, blasters
:''[[The Loyal Subjects]]'' Nova Storm (though he had not yet received his name) is a 3-inch non-transforming vinyl figure designed by [[Les Schetkoe]]. He comes in the "Rainmakers" set alongside [[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] and [[Ion Storm]]. The set comes in a retro box and was released in a limited run of 500 pieces.
{{--}}
===Transformers Trading Card Game===
[[File:W4RaiderNovaStorm.jpg|thumb]]
*'''Raider Nova Storm//Infantry•Combustion Specialist''' (2019)
**'''Wave 4: War for Cybertron: Siege II'''
**''Rarity: '''''CT'''
**''Card Number: '''''T36/T52'''
**''Stars: ''7

{{-}}

==Notes==
* Despite the many different designations thought up by fans, the yellow and the blue Rainmakers went officially unnamed for over 30 years until a [[2015]] entry of the Facebook edition of "[[Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime]]" by [[Betsy Blackie]] and [[Brandy Dixon]] named the yellow one Nova Storm and the blue one [[Ion Storm]].
* The term "rainmakers" was originally used by [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] as a colloquial description of their actions. However, repeated [[Fandom|fan usage]] turned this into a widely accepted name for the group, which was eventually [[Canonizing|made official]] as such by Hasbro's bio for [[Acid Storm (G1)#Universe (2008)|''Universe'' Acid Storm]].
*A common piece of [[fanon]] identified the all-yellow Rainmaker as the partially yellow [[Sunstorm (G1)|Sunstorm]]. However, even taking into consideration the haphazard coloring typically given to generic Seekers, chances were in favour of their not being the same guy. After being asked the question during the August 2010 Q&A, Hasbro confirmed that the yellow Rainmaker was not Sunstorm, but did not give him a name at that time.<ref>[http://www.asmzine.com/geekly-rewind/2010/07/26/hasbro-transformers-qa-july-2010-answers August 2010 Q&A on ASMzine:] ''"When the right opportunities arise, the other Seekers seen in the original television series such as Acid Storm have been named and given official backgrounds. Unfortunately, not every character that has appeared on screen has made the transition into other forms of media or even product. Because of this fact, there has been no official backgrounds created for these characters."''</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Gender-switch characters]]
[[Category:Generation 1 cartoon Decepticons]]
[[Category:Generation 1 Seekers]]
[[Category:IDW (2019) Decepticons]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron: Siege Decepticons]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Decepticons]]

Hoist (Animated)

2020-06-28T00:13:22Z

LordCringeTheCringiest: /* Notes */

{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Hoist}}

:''Hoist is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:HoistAnimated.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

'''Hoist''' is an [[Autobot]] actor.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
[[Image:TFAni ThisIsWhyIHateMachines Autotroopers Decepticon.jpg|thumb|left]]

Hoist performed the part of a vague "[[Decepticon]]" threat apprehended by [[Autotrooper (Animated)|Autotrooper]]s in [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]'s propaganda video. {{Storylink|This Is Why I Hate Machines}}

Hoist was later interviewed about his part in the potentially inflammatory Autobot propaganda films (or "[[public service announcement]]s" as he calls them) by multiversal newspaper ''[[ALTernity Today]]''. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

{{-}}
==Notes==
* The shadowy "Decepticon" was, of course, unidentified in the episode he appeared in; ''The AllSpark Almanac II'' would later give him the name and backstory.
* The actor being named "Hoist" is a reference to the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Transformers'']] episode "[[Hoist Goes Hollywood (episode)|Hoist Goes Hollywood]]".
* 11 Years later, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] would make a design more faithful to his [[Hoist (G1)|G1 design]] with the help of artist [[Josh Perez]], which can be found on his [https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1260766324583624706 Twitter]

[[Category:Animated Autobots]]
[[Category:Entertainers]]
[[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]

Hoist (Animated)

2020-06-28T00:13:05Z

LordCringeTheCringiest: /* Notes */

{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig3|Hoist}}

:''Hoist is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:HoistAnimated.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

'''Hoist''' is an [[Autobot]] actor.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
[[Image:TFAni ThisIsWhyIHateMachines Autotroopers Decepticon.jpg|thumb|left]]

Hoist performed the part of a vague "[[Decepticon]]" threat apprehended by [[Autotrooper (Animated)|Autotrooper]]s in [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]]'s propaganda video. {{Storylink|This Is Why I Hate Machines}}

Hoist was later interviewed about his part in the potentially inflammatory Autobot propaganda films (or "[[public service announcement]]s" as he calls them) by multiversal newspaper ''[[ALTernity Today]]''. {{Storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

{{-}}
==Notes==
* The shadowy "Decepticon" was, of course, unidentified in the episode he appeared in; ''The AllSpark Almanac II'' would later give him the name and backstory.
* The actor being named "Hoist" is a reference to the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Transformers'']] episode "[[Hoist Goes Hollywood (episode)|Hoist Goes Hollywood]]".
* Years later, [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] would make a design more faithful to his [[Hoist (G1)|G1 design]] with the help of artist [[Josh Perez]], which can be found on his [https://twitter.com/DerrickJWyatt/status/1260766324583624706 Twitter]

[[Category:Animated Autobots]]
[[Category:Entertainers]]
[[Category:Fiction-only Transformers]]