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== Section names ==

It's just "Cybertron comic" and "Universe comic" because there are no other comics by those names. You do not need to add the publisher names. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 01:53, 6 April 2015 (EDT)

== Contractions ==

Why are you expanding contractions in article writeups? That isn't necessary. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:28, 12 April 2015 (EDT)
:See above. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:55, 12 April 2015 (EDT)
::I thought that in a few instances, the sentence flowed better without the contraction. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 23:56, 12 April 2015 (EDT)
:::Hmm, fair enough! --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 01:55, 13 April 2015 (EDT)

== Section headers ==

Pleeeease don't start adding "Beast Wars cartoon continuity" to every page for isolated sections without discussing its necessity. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 21:02, 16 April 2015 (EDT)
:Once again... [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 11:01, 9 May 2015 (EDT)

==Dimension hoppers==
Thank you for making it obvious why Axiom Nexus citizens make the Dimension Hoppers category pointless. Please undo your work. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:52, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
: I'm also wondering why a lot of these guys are being added to the Dimension Hoppers category. Why are the Autojetters and Seacons going in there? I don't see anything on their pages about going from one continuity family to another. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:55, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
: Okay okay, all right, apparently you have moved all of the G1 guys from "Invasion" into the category because they live in SG now. This is... arguably unnecessary, because if you read the dimension hoppers category, the category exists for characters who change continuity families, and both Classics and SG are Primax. Whether Positive Primax and Negative Primax constitute something different enough to warrant the category is NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE DISCUSSED, SO PLEASE MOVE THEM BACK UNTIL DISCUSSION IS HAD, THANK YOU. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:00, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
::Well they were there in "BW:SG" even though they didn't do anything with any actual Shattered Glass dudes. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:57, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
:::FACEPALM DIRECTED AT YOU, READ ABOVE --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:00, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
:::I hadn't noticed you'd updated with that when I began editing. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]])
::::When I started adding characters to the Dimension Hoppers category, characters like [[Ultra Magnus (SG)]] and [[Treadshot (SG)]] were already there. I figured that was because this wiki classifies G1 and ''Shattered Glass'' as different continuity families. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 17:05, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
:::::You also moved the entirety of the cast list of the Universe comics in there, despite the page explicitly excluding them. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:08, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
:::::For future reference, if you ever stumble across something that seemingly requires hundreds of edits, please please please please ask us about it first. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:11, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
::::::1. I apologize for breaking wiki protocol. 2. I guess I made a couple unnecessary edits with the ''Universe'' characters, but I was intentionally leaving out the characters who had only traveled to the Cauldron. 3. I moved the characters in "[[Invasion (issue)|Invasion]]" and ''[[Beast Wars Shattered Glass]]'' because I read on this wiki that G1 and Shattered Glass were different continuity families. I thought that the absence of all the ''Classics'' characters from "Invasion"/BWSG was a minor oversight to be corrected. 4. Why did you undo my alphebetization edit to [[Apelinq (BM)|Apelinq]] and Child of Primus category edit to 2001 RID Optimus Prime? 5. Do rapid conversations on talk pages always happen at this rate? I've had trouble responding because of edit conflicts.
:::::::In the course of running down your contributions list to revert everything, I figured there may have been some false positives, which I am in the process of fixing on a case-by-case basis. Also, I have placed Omega Prime in the dimension hopper category since he's actually gone from RID to the UT. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:40, 26 April 2015 (EDT)

==Night Viper==

Just to clarify, he was always going to be a Maximal toy. The Predacon history was his original intended backstory. Makes sense, him being a snake and all. Most of the reptiles were Preds.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 18:53, 7 July 2015 (EDT)
:Apologies. I will rectify that. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 18:58, 7 July 2015 (EDT)

==Removing "cartoon-only" categories...==
If a formerly-cartoon-only character appears in a comic, then you need to replace "cartoon only" with "Category: Fiction-only Transformers", not just delete the category outright. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 23:59, 14 July 2015 (EDT)
:Sorry about that. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:00, 15 July 2015 (EDT)

==Universe==
Nice work on this section. If you're up for it, other attributions for Children/Minions would be useful. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:27, 31 July 2015 (EDT)

==Overbite==
I meant merge Overbite with the G1 one page, not adding the new information to his Universe page but actually, I already add that.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 17:38, 2 August 2015 (EDT)

==References==
Do you know why refs that I added don't show up at the end of the page? I referenced Ask Vctor Prime in [[Uniend 812.21 Kappa|this page]] but it don't show up.[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 20:15, 30 August 2015 (EDT)
: You have to put <nowiki>{{reflist}}</nowiki> at the bottom of the page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 20:23, 30 August 2015 (EDT)
::Thanks.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 20:35, 30 August 2015 (EDT)

== The reason for Grum's name not showing up==

Though I can't say for sure, I suspect that [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal&curid=474&diff=1041903&oldid=1041898 Grum's name was missing] because he inserted one too many tildes when signing his post, causing it to put only the date, like so: 22:26, 6 January 2016 (EST) -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 22:26, 6 January 2016 (EST)

==Gargent==

You deleted the Gargent image for the Universal stream page? Are we not allowed to use GoBots images like that? [[User:Lush City|Lush City]] ([[User talk:Lush City|talk]]) 19:56, 28 January 2016 (EST)
:I don't recall exactly which discussion it was, but I believe it was agreed that we shouldn't use images which AVP askers uploaded with their questions. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 21:05, 28 January 2016 (EST)

== Disambiguating Wilder ==

Hey, you're pretty knowledgeable about diambiguation pages and such, right? How would we handle [[Wilder (Masterforce)|Wilder]], [[L. W. Wilder]], and [[Wilder (G1)]]? Would we need a <nowiki>[[Wilder (disambiguation)]]</nowiki>? I hate to bother you with this, but his stuff confuses me. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 22:17, 22 February 2016 (EST)
:Huh. I've never noticed that before, but I beleive three guys like that is sufficient to merit a disambiguation. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:18, 22 February 2016 (EST)
::Yeah, that one must have slipped through the cracks. Anyway, I'll probably start fixing some links to Wilder, but I won't be able to do them all tonight. Thanks for your help! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 22:29, 22 February 2016 (EST)

==Link fix==
Since I wasn't sure if you'd get a notification when I did it or not, I just wanted to let you know that I fixed a link on your talk page (specifically, Apelinq -> Apelinq (BM)) Cheers! -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 17:11, 29 February 2016 (EST)

== Ain't No Rat ==

To answer your question, Dreamwave was planning to tie Beast Wars into its G1 continuity, and its comics were written with that in mind. It also simplifies things by putting the MTMTE and Summer Special content together. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 16:36, 21 April 2016 (EDT)

== We don't do that? ==

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Thrashclaw&diff=1097114&oldid=1097112

Surely we should link directly to [[Of Masters and Mayhem]] somewhere in that article? and that seems as good a place as any--better than anywhere else, even, because the text is already there; i just made it a link. No offense intended; i just don't understand why we don't/shouldn't do it this way.

Thanks. --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 20:12, 26 May 2016 (EDT)

P.S.--
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Slice&diff=1097118&oldid=1097108
...Wow. Thanks! --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 20:15, 26 May 2016 (EDT)
:I'm not aware if it is specifically stated in any rule, but we don't do it anywhere on the wiki. If you think we should, bring it to the talk page. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 23:28, 31 May 2016 (EDT)

== Changing dates ==

Why are you changing dates to have the year first? --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 06:22, 19 August 2016 (EDT)
:I'm sick of the confusion between U.S. and UK order, and in any case, ymd format is how the Japanese do it. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 12:05, 19 August 2016 (EDT)
::Not a huge fan, as I've always grown up with MDY, but I guess as long as it's consistent. BTW, the wiki server itself has "19 August 2016". --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 15:53, 19 August 2016 (EDT)

== Deluge vs Drench ==

Thanks to [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Shatterpoint&diff=1124654&oldid=1124649 you], the [[Shatterpoint]] article once again SAYS Generation 2 Deluge while it LINKS to G1 Deluge (who has a rather different deco from [[Deluge (G2)]]). i explained this in my edit summary. Please revert your revert.

--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 04:28, 31 August 2016 (EDT)
:Then maybe next time you should use proper text formatting. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 04:38, 31 August 2016 (EDT)
::i see. i thought it'd be fine to leave the franchise identifiers as suffixes rather than prefixes. (The way i had it wasn't even grammatically incorrect.) Sorry. For future reference, how would you feel about ''His color scheme is based somewhat loosely on that of [[Deluge (G1)|G1 Deluge]] or [[Drench (G2)|G2 Drench]],'' or ''His color scheme is based somewhat loosely on that of [[Deluge (G1)|Deluge]] or [[Drench (G2)|Drench]]''? Also, is there a reason you italicized "''Generation 2''" but not "Generation 1"? --[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 04:55, 31 August 2016 (EDT)
:::Either of those should be fine, though I think the latter is a bit vague to readers. And ''Generation 2'' is italicized because it is the actual published product branding; "Generation 1" is a retronym for ''The Transformers''. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 05:48, 31 August 2016 (EDT)

== Animated Blackout IS Prominent Enough ==

How is Animated Blackout not prominent enough? We have Animated Perceptor on the [[Perceptor (disambiguation)]] page, and unlike Blackout, he doesn't even have a toy. Heck, we have RID Kickback on [[Kickback (disambiguation)]]. --[[User:DannyBoy|DannyBoy]] ([[User talk:DannyBoy|talk]]) 07:12, 23 September 2016 (EDT)
:Perhaps I acted in haste, but I don't count a single episode appearance and a toy which wasn't released in the U.S. as sufficiently prominent. Heck, ''Animated'' Perceptor and ''Robots in Disguise'' Kickback could probably be removed. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 07:17, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

== Club magazine content ==

We have only three more months to go in which "we have a 30 day grace period for FP magazine content to go on the wiki" is still relevant, so, like.... --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:38, 22 October 2016 (EDT)
:? What have I done which hasn't been out for 30 days yet? Do you mean creating stubs for the SG Animated characters? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 21:43, 22 October 2016 (EDT)
::Isn't the Thunder Mayhem image from this most recent issue? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:55, 22 October 2016 (EDT)
:::Aha, it is not. Ignore me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:56, 22 October 2016 (EDT)

==Date formatting==
We don't format dates year-first. Never have. Nobody does. Stop changing this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 22:25, 27 October 2016 (EDT)

== Reflist ==

Thanks for the backstop on Gargent 984.08 Alpha. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 18:35, 13 December 2016 (EST)

== "Anomie" Date error ==
Ultra Magnus or anybody, the date "1st cycle 3041" is way off, isn't it? Why remove this error? --[[User:Kmc|Kmc]] ([[User talk:Kmc|talk]]) 21:08, 3 February 2017 (EST)
:I thought the logical explanation was that James Roberts had deliberately refreshed the calendar to a new cycle. In any event, Chris McFeely moved it to issue #1's page. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 10:27, 4 February 2017 (EST)

==Kre-O moves==
When you move the Kre-O character page contents, try to remember that you're going to have to make some alterations/additions to the text. These new sections in the toy area will need links to "[[Kre-O]]" and "[[Kreon]]" in them since these would likely be the first instances of those words on those pages. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 19:41, 19 February 2017 (EST)
:I'll keep that in mind. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:42, 19 February 2017 (EST)

== Nemesis Prime ==

That character is the same one as Optimus Prime, though? I mean, it's not like say, Tankor, cause the basic remnants of the personality are still there, but evil. He's more like Rhinox in Dark Designs. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 15:15, 7 March 2017 (EST)
:I can see where you are coming from. The Nemesis Prime personality has a coloration of its own which fits with the rest of the "[[Nemesis Prime (G1)]]" page; hence why I think it all belongs on the Nemesis Prime page. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:20, 7 March 2017 (EST)
::Sure but isn't that also the case of say, Yokohama Convoy? I mean obviously Optimus doesn't have stickers on him. but still. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:22, 7 March 2017 (EST)

==Mini-Cons==
Why are you wiping out information on those pages? What is the point of sending readers to a separate page for repurposed toys? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 16:33, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

==Invasion Boxart==
Hey, I noticed that your crop for [[Treadshot (SG)|Treadshot]] had a better quality than simply cropping the lithograph online. Do you happen to have the entire Botcon 2012 lithograph by any chance? Thanks in advance
[[User:Ed|Ed]] ([[User talk:Ed|talk]]) 20:18, 26 April 2017 (EDT)
:I found a close-up shot from Seibertron from [https://www.seibertron.com/transformers-toys/gallery/exclusives/treadshot/2727/1/ their BotCon 2012 Treadshot gallery]. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:36, 26 April 2017 (EDT)
Oh, okay. Thanks [[User:Ed|Ed]] ([[User talk:Ed|talk]]) 00:04, 27 April 2017 (EDT)

== Foreign names ==

Pardon me if I'm wrong, but aren't all foreign names supposed to go at the end of articles? I thought that was the standard. [[User:Rotary|Rotary]] ([[User talk:Rotary|talk]]) 20:12, 15 May 2017 (EDT)
:When a character debuts in a foreign territory with a foreign-script name, the standard is just to put it at the top. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 20:27, 15 May 2017 (EDT)
::Oh, gotcha. My mistake. Thanks for fixing it! [[User:Rotary|Rotary]] ([[User talk:Rotary|talk]]) 20:32, 15 May 2017 (EDT)

== A Hopefully Friendly Suggestion ==
Hey, man, you're a friend, so I hope you take this the right way. I've noticed a recent trend in your edits towards trying to apply a kind of lawyery view of the wiky's policies towards the articles. Despite what Hermes Conrad says, technically correct is not always the best kind of correct. When you're faced with a corner case, like Clutch the Decepticon turned Renegade or the two Cryoteks, before you stake out a position, maybe you should ask yourself if you're actually making the wiki a better place. Is the Clutch article better now that it has an ugly "this article lacks any official visual representation" box? Would the two Cryoteks be better in any reasonable sense if you merge them? If the answer to either of those questions is no, then you should really take a step back and wonder if you are helping, or just stirring the pot. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 09:23, 18 June 2017 (EDT)

==Twinferno==
There is a Titans Return Deluxe Twinferno and a RID Warrior Twinferno. Please specify. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 20:56, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
:EDIT: Nevermind. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 20:57, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
::EDIT EDIT: I did some cross-checking, and to the best of my determination, Titans Return Voyager Alpha Trion came out around August and therefore wouldn't count as 4th quarter 2016 product. I realize you voted before I did the research, but would appreciate it if you would still alter your vote. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] ([[User talk:Monzo|talk]]) 22:46, 10 July 2017 (EDT)

== Bad Boy and Dealbreaker ==
I've noticed that you've restored these names on Powerflash and Tap-Out's pages, but why? Bad Boy and Deal Breaker weren't names they personally identified themselves with, those names were just disguises. That's like writing on Optimus Prime's page, "also goes by Motormaster because he disguised as him in that one G1 episode." --[[User:Nom|Nom]] ([[User talk:Nom|talk]]) 01:47, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
:<nowiki>*shrug*</nowiki> I thought it was interesting. If you think it really doesn't belong, be my guest. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:23, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

== Bluestreak box art ==

[[File_talk:G1_Bluestreak_Boxart-Blue.jpg|Thanks.]] i still think Bluestreak's article should actually [http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Bluestreak_%28G1%29&diff=1193253&oldid=1193203 show the miscolored art.] (Rather than just talking about it and linking to some [[Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers|other article]] that shows it.) i used your pic this time. Let me know if there's a reason you think Bluestreak's article ''shouldn't'' show the Diaclone-colored box art.
--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 01:28, 16 July 2017 (EDT)

== "Autobot-allied Mini-Cons" ==

The Weaponizers ''did'' all explicitly become Autobots during the course of "[[Worthy]]", so I don't think saying "Autobot-allied" is accurate. - [[User:TBR|TBR]] ([[User talk:TBR|talk]]) 00:27, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

== Shatterpoint ==

Thanks for catching that. I misread Wind-Sheer's page as SP being a Unicron BELIEVER. My bad. [[User:Crossfire|'''Cross''']][[User talk:Crossfire|'''fire''']] 21:48, 16 January 2018 (EST)
:No problem! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 21:50, 16 January 2018 (EST)

== Size classes ==

Why do you keep adding size classes to Japanese releases that are not sold at consistent price points like Hasbro products or sometimes not engineered to fit budgetary concerns? Godbomber and Super Ginrai were not sold at the same price point and weren't made with consideration to Hasbro's size class limitations; likewise, Blitzwing with Big Fight isn't the same thing as Leo Prime sold by himself. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 17:24, 19 March 2018 (EDT)

== Studio Series ==

Why are you having it so characters say Generations and Studio Series when they only have one Generations toy? Take any character from Generations released under a subline imprint, and when that is there only toy, it goes under the general Generations subheading instead. Why are you changing this for the Studio Series guys? [[User:Notirishman|--notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 15:59, 27 May 2018 (EDT)
:Okay I see, you posted something on the Community Portal, and I put my thoughts down. But I think you should've at least put the post up before you made all your changes to get more opinions on the subject. [[User:Notirishman|--notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 16:11, 27 May 2018 (EDT)

== Progress Report ==

All Combiner Wars images have been completed. [[User:Notirishman|notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 23:48, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
:T30 too. This leaves POTP and Movie Editon images out of Generations. [[User:Notirishman|notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 00:25, 16 July 2018 (EDT)

== JG1 toyline revamp ==

[[Generation 1 (Japanese toylines)|There]], better?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] ([[User talk:Nevermore|talk]]) 06:22, 8 August 2018 (EDT)

== What's wrong with the redirects? ==

Why shouldn't we use redirects on pages? Should we avoid using redirects when the time arises? [[User:Notirishman|notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 00:49, 26 August 2018 (EDT)
:Yes, because it wastes time for users and is an unneeded load on the server. People eliminate redirects on the site all the time. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:03, 27 August 2018 (EDT)
::Okay, thank you, I wasn't aware. [[User:Notirishman|notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 22:11, 27 August 2018 (EDT)

We could use some '''serious''' help with removing all Ker-O-related redirects. It's too tiresome for one person to do alone! -[[User:NexusShard17|NexusShard17]] ([[User talk:NexusShard17|talk]]) 09:51, 26 September 2018 (EDT)

== Page Delection ==
The page currently titled "Jetfire (Movie)" is ready for deletion. All the necessary information from that page has been moved to the one titled "Jetfire (ROTF)". I am asking for help with deleting "Jetfire (Movie)" so "Jetfire (ROTF)" can be renamed as such. --[[User:NexusShard17|NexusShard17]] ([[User talk:NexusShard17|talk]]) 09:14, 19 September 2018 (EDT)
:Uh, he isn't an admin. [[User:Notirishman|--notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 09:48, 19 September 2018 (EDT)
::If that's the case, then who ''is''? -[[User:NexusShard17|NexusShard17]] ([[User talk:NexusShard17|talk]]) 09:52, 26 September 2018 (EDT)

== Hachette covers main image ==

I started filling these out assuming Guido Guidi was by default the artist of the "new" image, but I now realize this is not always the case. Several are by Don Figueroa and others. Do the books themselves ID the cover art? I hate having to put "unknown" but may have to in some cases. Is it listed online anywhere? [[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] ([[User talk:MistaTee|talk]]) 17:20, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
:Sorry, that's not what I have seen from Hachette. I was hoping that by enlisting your help, I could find out the artists more easily. I'm not much of an art identifier myself. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 13:23, 8 October 2018 (EDT)

== Siege Leader Class Ultra Magnus ==

Why did you undo my edit? And why is there no mention of the ''War For Cybertron: Siege'' Leader Class Optimus Prime anywhere on this wiki? [[User:Bumblebee392|My other car is an Autobot.]] ([[User talk:Bumblebee392|talk]]) 15:25, 10 February 2019 (EST)
:Presumably because Leader Class Optimus hasn't been officially announced yet. We don't cover leaks here. -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] ([[User talk:Cyberlink420|talk]]) 15:35, 10 February 2019 (EST)

== Why? ==

OK, WHY put Animated Punch and Computron's pages up for deletion when you can just improve them? I mean, I understand why there's no effort, as I made the pages when I was still new to the wiki, but still, why out them up for deletion?--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 13:23, 11 February 2019 (EST)
: A: you made them when you hadn't even read ''anything'' about the characters. B: instead of demanding others to do it for you, you should find out for yourself what they did, and then edit it in. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 13:29, 11 February 2019 (EST)
::This is getting frustrating. Look, I'll be more specific when I add pages now.--[[User:CyclonustheWarrior|CyclonustheWarrior]] ([[User talk:CyclonustheWarrior|talk]]) 13:35, 11 February 2019 (EST)
:::If you are only creating a page to say "this thing exists", don't create the page. If you don't have some actual info to put on there, it is better to leave it as a red link. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 14:20, 11 February 2019 (EST)

== IDW categories ==

There's no "move" tab on categories for me. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] ([[User talk:Mammalian Verisimilitude|talk]]) 21:59, 27 March 2019 (EDT)
And when I manually enter it, I get:
:Permissions errors
:You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:
:Cannot move pages in namespace "Category"
- [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] ([[User talk:Mammalian Verisimilitude|talk]]) 22:00, 27 March 2019 (EDT)
:Huh, I could have sworn there was. Never mind that then. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:02, 27 March 2019 (EDT)

== Treble redirects ==

[https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&hidelinks=1&target=2005+IDW+continuity&namespace= Seriously?] - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] ([[User talk:Mammalian Verisimilitude|talk]]) 18:14, 3 April 2019 (EDT)

User talk:Locoman

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{{welcome}}

Kind of a shame no one's bothered to welcome you before, you're making comprehensive additions. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 19:14, 7 August 2014 (EDT)

==Disambigs==
Please remember to turn the "Not to be confused with" sections into sub-sections as well. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] ([[User talk:M Sipher|talk]]) 12:45, 13 May 2015 (EDT)
: Will do. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 12:55, 13 May 2015 (EDT)

==Ask Vector Prime==
I love what you're doing with my template! Keep up the good work. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 11:42, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
: Thanks! You had the right idea; it makes everything look cleaner and easier to follow. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 11:49, 14 August 2015 (EDT)

==Renegade Rhetoric==
Please stop trimming the condensed Renegade Rhetoric content from characters who appear in other crossover fiction. Per community portal and Chris McFeely's proposal: "Those who only appear in Renegade Rhetoric get consolidated into a list with brief description of their Renegade Rhetoric adventures with links to the RR/src archive. And for the characters who do appear in crossover fiction, their Renegade Rhetoric adventures get that brief description with link to archive." We've had so many arguments about this in the past, do you REALLY want to reopen this wound by changing the rules that were debated and agreed on ad nauseum? --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:18, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
: I brought it up over on the Allspark, and the general consensus was that Renegade Rhetoric minutiae like a character mentioning Canada didn't belong on the wiki,. Still, I'm not going to be the one responsible for starting Gobot War II. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 23:22, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
::Why should a talk off-site have anything to do with wiki policy? We fought hard to find some kind of middle ground. If you want to change it, bring it up there and start Gobot War XXIX. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 23:23, 27 April 2016 (EDT)

== Timelines Toxitron ==

Toxitron's bio reads to me like he's an ordinary G1 Decepticon-turned-Autobot. Shouldn't he get his own page? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:39, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
: I just put it on that page for the time being, feel free to shuffle stuff around as people deem nessecary. That said, I'm not sure if Timelines Toxitron is distinct enough to get his own page (after all, we have stuff like Rattrap, the heroic Maximal, and Rattrap, the morally-questionable Autobot all one page). [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 22:47, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
:: He's actually Combiner Wars Toxitron. <--- not helping --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 22:51, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
:::What I mean is that TFSS Toxitron looks to be a G1 continuity family guy, not a RiD2001 guy. Don't we still delineate by that? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:56, 29 April 2016 (EDT)

== Club magazine images ==

Would you be able to upload an image of [[Gaea]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:46, 31 May 2016 (EDT)
: Done! [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 16:03, 31 May 2016 (EDT)
::Thanks! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:07, 31 May 2016 (EDT)
Could you also get [[Needlenose (SG)|Needlenose]], [[Spinister (SG)|Spinister]], [[Stonecruncher (SG)|Stonecruncher]], [[Excavator (SG)|Excavator]], [[Predaking (SG)|Predaking]], and [[Weirdwolf (SG)|Weirdwolf]]? And also the kickass scene in "[[Restoration]]" where Nexus Prime disarms (hee hee) Ultra Magnus? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 01:48, 11 June 2016 (EDT)
: Sure. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 13:09, 11 June 2016 (EDT)
::Thanks, Grum. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:26, 11 June 2016 (EDT)
One final image request: can you do [[Windblade (SG)|Windblade]], [[Hot Shot (SG)|Hot Shot]], [[Nautica (SG)|Nautica]], [[Metroplex (SG)|Metroplex]], and [[Skywarp (SG)|Skywarp]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 16:47, 12 June 2016 (EDT)
: I'll try to find those ones, but I can't guarantee anything. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 16:50, 12 June 2016 (EDT)

== Rock Lords ==

You missed at least 2, I think. Here's a page with all of them, I know they were all mentioned at some point: http://www.toyarchive.com/Rocklords.html [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 20:04, 2 June 2016 (EDT)
: Thanks for catching that. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 20:16, 2 June 2016 (EDT)

== Sharkticons in the CoP ==

Does ''The Covenant of Primus'' mention the term "Sharkticon"? I think it might predate ''Retribution'' for mentioning Sharkticons in the Aligned continuity. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 15:35, 17 June 2016 (EDT)
: Yep! They're name-dropped during the chapter describing the Age of Wrath. No idea how you can reconcile that with their later appearance in Retribution, where they're implied to be speciated Cybertronians, but that's Aligned for ya. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 17:15, 17 June 2016 (EDT)

== Another image ==

Would you be able to upload the scene from [[The Transgressors|exRiD #44]] where Tracks is surrounded by the Decepticons and then stick it on the issue's article? I think the visual depiction of "AM Thundercracker", "G2 Ramjet", and the Buzzclaw-colored guy would enhance the page. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 23:59, 8 August 2016 (EDT)
: Will do. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 00:00, 9 August 2016 (EDT)

== Holomatter pics ==

Hey, since you're updating IDW pages with pictures, is there any chance you could update the holomatter page? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 14:48, 15 August 2016 (EDT)
: Will do. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 14:50, 15 August 2016 (EDT)

== Moving pages ==

Pages need to be moved using the move option at the top of the screen, otherwise copying and pasting means the page history isn't maintained during the move. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 16:28, 13 September 2016 (EDT)
: I tried doing it that way but the system wouldn't let me do it. Sorry, I should probably wait for an admin next time. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 16:29, 13 September 2016 (EDT)

I would like to apologize for making the move from "Cybertron Elite Guard" to "Elite Guard" unannounced (by that I mean swapping the code from one page to the other). I felt like whatever conversation I make was being neglected. Anyway, the pages with the Elite Guard logo still have the redirection to "Cybertron Elite Guard". Can anyone fix those please? On another note, the page currently titled "Jetfire (Movie)" is ready for deletion. All the necessary information from that page has been moved to the one titled "Jetfire (ROTF)". I am asking for help with deleting "Jetfire (Movie)" so "Jetfire (ROTF)" can be renamed as such. Whatever you can do would be a real help, because sometimes I feel like renaming links can be extremely tiresome. --[[User:NexusShard17|NexusShard17]] ([[User talk:NexusShard17|talk]]) 12:45, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
: I'm flattered, I'm not a wiki admin, only they can delete pages. You can find them [[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:ListUsers/sysop here]]; I would recommend asking either Abates, Chris, or Walky to do it. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 18:40, 29 September 2018 (EDT)

== Uprising work ==
Nice job filling so much stuff in *thumbs up*. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 00:53, 29 November 2016 (EST)
: Thanks! [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 01:00, 29 November 2016 (EST)

== More images ==

Would you be able to find a good up-close shot of [[Sovereign]] in IDW for his page? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 20:50, 26 December 2016 (EST)
: I'll try when I get the time. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 21:07, 26 December 2016 (EST)
::Can you upload a better version of [[:File:DeltaCity.jpg|this image]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 18:19, 24 January 2017 (EST)
::: Will do. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 18:54, 24 January 2017 (EST)
Would you happen to have uploadable images for [[Lionhead]], [[Stage-Dive]], and the remaining ''[[SD SG]]'' characters? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 06:05, 2 February 2017 (EST)
:Thanks! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 18:03, 4 February 2017 (EST)
How about the shot from [[Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|''Lost Light'' #1]] with the cameos where Tailgate lifts up Roller, plus the closing shot of Twelve-of-Twelve and the Functionaries, to decorate LL#1's page? Also, [[Clicker]] and [[Jack-Knife]] from LL#2 and the battle of Junkion in OP#2. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 23:19, 7 February 2017 (EST)

Can you get [[Garrison Kreiger]], [[Sgt. Savage]], and [[Grill (G.I. Joe)|Grill]] from [[The Secret of the Mummy's Tomb|''Revolutionaries'' #3]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:22, 28 March 2017 (EDT)
: I'll do that when I get the issue. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 22:37, 28 March 2017 (EDT)
:: No rush. Thanks! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 22:41, 28 March 2017 (EDT)
Can you a large and cleaned version of [[Mainframe (G.I. Joe)|Mainframe]] from his profile in [[O Ship of State|''Revolution'' #3]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 21:33, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
: Okay, done. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 08:04, 12 April 2017 (EDT)
:: Nice work. How about [[Roadblock (G.I. Joe)|Roadblock]] as well? His main image could certainly be upgraded. [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 05:19, 13 April 2017 (EDT)
:::Many thanks, Grum! [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 13:16, 13 April 2017 (EDT)
::: No problem! [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 13:21, 13 April 2017 (EDT)
Can you enhance [[:File:Revolution4 ArceeSnakeEyesAcroyear.jpg|this]], [[:File:Rev1 Mayday.jpg|this]], maybe [[:File:The Auspicious Helix.jpg|this image]] as well? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:35, 29 April 2017 (EDT)

How about [[Red Zone]], [[Hi-Tech]], [[Wreckage (G.I. Joe)|Wreckage]], [[Terrence Salmons]], [[Bryce Chan]], [[Pauline Bestley]], and any unmasked M.A.S.K. guys? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 23:32, 30 April 2017 (EDT)

Can you enhance [[:File:New World Order Oval Office.jpg|this]] and [[:File:Nothing man Blackrock and Spike.jpg|this]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 14:37, 11 May 2017 (EDT)

If you have the time, can you get up profile images of [[Gloria Baker|Aura]], [[Axiom (G1)|Axiom]], [[Pauline Bestley]], [[Biotron]], [[Bryce Chan]], [[Doc (Carla Greer)|Doc]], [[Countdown (G.I. Joe)|Countdown]], [[Brad Turner|Eclipse]], [[Julio Lopez|Gulliver]], [[Gung-Ho]], [[Agent Helix|Helix]], [[Vanessa Warfield|Ice Queen]], [[Larissa]], and [[Microtron]]? [[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 18:22, 12 August 2017 (EDT)

== TLK ==

Hey, I think that jet thing they used to fly from America to London was an Autobot, too, since Simmons talked about it. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 17:03, 22 June 2017 (EDT)
: Was it? I couldn't tell. (Same with the submarine - what was up with that?) [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 19:26, 22 June 2017 (EDT)

== Combiners ==

Hey, nice work of the Combiner article, much more succinct than I could manage. One small thing I'd like to contest, though, are the details about Prowl's effect on Optimus Maximus (and by extension the info on Bruticus and others): I had specifically added stuff like that, as I considered them insight into the combiner process/mind-melding/mindscape/whatev, something we ''hear'' about but don't see that often. Ultimately it's up to you, but just thought I'd mention it. Thanks! [[User:Crossfire|'''Cross''']][[User talk:Crossfire|'''fire''']] 03:55, 16 February 2018 (EST)
: Yeah, I intend to keep most of the psychological stuff - it's the stuff about what every individual combiner did that I'm trying to cut down on. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 12:04, 16 February 2018 (EST)

== IDW first appearances ==

Why are you deleting these? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] ([[User talk:Repowers|talk]]) 21:48, 16 February 2018 (EST)
: I guess that they don't really seem... necessary? Like, I get the idea behind it, but at the same time it's not really something we do for anything else on the wiki. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 23:39, 16 February 2018 (EST)
::Because nothing else has as long and convoluted a history as the IDW books! -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] ([[User talk:Repowers|talk]]) 18:48, 18 February 2018 (EST)
::: I mean if you or other people want to add them back in, I don't really have a problem with it. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 23:02, 18 February 2018 (EST)

== Sorry ==

I called you a caption bastard for changing the caption on the SS bumblebee image and I'm sorry. Still, isn't it against wiki rules for changing captions that have nothing wrong with them? [[User:Notirishman|--westjames/notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 21:11, 4 May 2018 (EDT)

== Ore-12 and Emissary ==

Cheers. Noticed that you reverted my edit in the article for [[The Falling, Interlude: The First Who Was Named|OP #18]], saying that it's Ore-12 -- not Emissary -- that was the source of the Space Knights' armor. Just to be clear, I never meant to imply that their armor was ''made'' out of Emissary himself; rather that he was the vessel which brought Ore-12 to Elonia (which I now concede is inaccurate).

I just went back to Unicron #0 to double-check, and [http://i.imgur.com/XxGQ1FE.jpg Rom does in fact make it seem like Emissary was the source of the Regenesis ore]. Looks like Rom was wrong here - the planet was seeded by one of Shockwave's Regenesis missiles ''separately'' from Emissary's arrival. Should this be cleared up in the Notes so that other readers don't get similarly confused?

My main question: should we still add a thingy in the Notes section that confirms that the Knights' armor is, in fact, an Ore? Or is the information already there sufficient? [[User:Genitus|Genitus]] ([[User talk:Genitus|talk]]) 17:52, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
: The [[Ore-12]] article itself does already go into detail about how everything is connected, but I'm willing to believe that Rom's comment is just a simplification of events for new readers who haven't been keeping up with 13 years of comics. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 17:59, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
:: So... should we add anything, or leave as is? [[User:Genitus|Genitus]] ([[User talk:Genitus|talk]]) 18:07, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
::: I added a relevant note on the Ore-12 article, that should cover it. [[User:Grum|Grum]] ([[User talk:Grum|talk]]) 18:28, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
:::: Understood, looks good. [[User:Genitus|Genitus]] ([[User talk:Genitus|talk]]) 19:08, 12 October 2018 (EDT)

==Badimage for watermarked images==
Hello there, uh, when you upload a watermarked screencap, please use the badimage template for watermarking. Thanks! [[User:Notirishman|--notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 20:53, 18 October 2018 (EDT)

== Changing ==

If you want to take over, fine, but note that a lot of IDW pages are not in the IDW G1 category tree, which is why I was prioritising those over the ones that are (and I wasn't done yet). - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] ([[User talk:Mammalian Verisimilitude|talk]]) 17:12, 3 April 2019 (EDT)

Also, one of the reasons I was taking so long is that I was checking for mislinks - e.g., [https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/index.php?title=Luke_Cage&curid=12920&diff=1337687&oldid=1313855 here], you didn't change the Jazz link to go to the IDW Jazz page.

(And if there's some sort of consensus on changing from IDW 2005 to 2005 IDW, you '''really''' should move the pages first, so that you're not creating a load of redlinks.) - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] ([[User talk:Mammalian Verisimilitude|talk]]) 17:15, 3 April 2019 (EDT)

User talk:Locoman

2019-04-03T21:12:55Z

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Template talk:Fromthe

2019-04-02T22:47:06Z

Mammalian Verisimilitude:

I'm not convinced of how useful this template is? The point of templates is generally to avoid typing out a bunch of wikimarkup code manually, but all a continuity note has is italics and internal links. I'd argue that doing it via template makes it ''harder'', because you have to memorise the template's specific syntax, plus I assume it adds extra server load compared to doing the formatting directly in the article? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:59, 2 April 2019 (EDT)
:Yeah, the continuity notes are not complex. A template for them is just adding an unnecessary extra layer. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:43, 2 April 2019 (EDT)
::It's the sort of thing that doesn't really seem complex until you have to edit several thousand pages to make some relatively small changes... (The whole point of templates is to *automate* boilerplate stuff, after all. You could copy and paste the code behind, say, {{tl|episode}} into every single episode page, rather than bothering with a template.)
::(My sympathy for wikis like Memory Alpha that template even stuff like character links grows by the day, here. If there'd been a <nowiki>[[Template:IDWlink]] that automated {{IDWlink|Megatron}} into [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]</nowiki>, it would be a *single edit* to change all of those. Yet, links are the simplest wikicode of all, so thousands of edits it is...)
::In this case, imagine there was a new Transformers cartoon named ''Transformers: Cybertron''. Doing it through a template lets you change all these Cybertron (franchise) to Cybertron (2005 franchise) without breaking a sweat. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] ([[User talk:Mammalian Verisimilitude|talk]]) 18:47, 2 April 2019 (EDT)

Template talk:Fromthe

2019-04-02T22:42:31Z

Mammalian Verisimilitude:

I'm not convinced of how useful this template is? The point of templates is generally to avoid typing out a bunch of wikimarkup code manually, but all a continuity note has is italics and internal links. I'd argue that doing it via template makes it ''harder'', because you have to memorise the template's specific syntax, plus I assume it adds extra server load compared to doing the formatting directly in the article? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:59, 2 April 2019 (EDT)
:Yeah, the continuity notes are not complex. A template for them is just adding an unnecessary extra layer. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:43, 2 April 2019 (EDT)
::It's the sort of thing that doesn't really seem complex until you have to edit several thousand pages to make some relatively small changes... (The whole point of templates is to *automate* boilerplate stuff, after all. You could copy and paste the code behind, say, {{tl|episode}} into every single episode page, rather than bothering with a template.)
::(My sympathy for wikis like Memory Alpha that template even stuff like character links grows by the day, here. If there'd been a <nowiki>[[Template:IDWlink]] that automated {{IDWlink|Megatron}} into [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]</nowiki>, it would be a *single edit* to change all of those. Yet, links are the simplest wikicode of all, so thousands of edits it is...) - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] ([[User talk:Mammalian Verisimilitude|talk]]) 18:36, 2 April 2019 (EDT)

Template talk:Fromthe

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Mammalian Verisimilitude:

I'm not convinced of how useful this template is? The point of templates is generally to avoid typing out a bunch of wikimarkup code manually, but all a continuity note has is italics and internal links. I'd argue that doing it via template makes it ''harder'', because you have to memorise the template's specific syntax, plus I assume it adds extra server load compared to doing the formatting directly in the article? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 13:59, 2 April 2019 (EDT)
:Yeah, the continuity notes are not complex. A template for them is just adding an unnecessary extra layer. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 15:43, 2 April 2019 (EDT)
::It's the sort of thing that doesn't really seem complex until you have to edit several thousand pages to make some relatively small changes... (The whole point of templates is to *automate* boilerplate stuff, after all. You could copy and paste the code behind, say, {{tl|episode}} into every single episode page, rather than bothering with a template.)
::(My sympathy for wikis like Memory Alpha that template even stuff like character links grows by the day, here.) - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] ([[User talk:Mammalian Verisimilitude|talk]]) 18:36, 2 April 2019 (EDT)

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Mammalian Verisimilitude:

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|rid2015toon=[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|''Robots in Disguise'' (2015) cartoon portion]]
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|gotoon=[[Triple Combination: Transformers Go! (cartoon)|''Go!'' cartoon portion]]
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|rba=[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (franchise)|''Rescue Bots Academy'' portion]]
|rbatoon=[[Transformers: Rescue Bots Academy (cartoon)|''Rescue Bots Academy'' cartoon portion]]
|cvtoon=[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|cartoon portion]]
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|classified=[[Transformers Classified|''Classified'' portion]]
|primewarstrilogy|prime wars trilogy=[[Prime Wars Trilogy|''Prime Wars Trilogy'' portion]]
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|potptoon|poweroftheprimestoon=[[Transformers: Power of the Primes (cartoon)|''Power of the Primes'' cartoon portion]]
|portaltoon=[[Transformers: Portal|''Portal'' portion]]
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|alternators=[[Transformers: Alternators|''Alternators'' portion]]
|binaltech=[[Story of Binaltech|''Binaltech'' portion]]
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|15gogo=[[Information Administration Teletraan 15 Go! Go!|''Teletraan 15 Go! Go!'' manga portion]]
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|packin=[[Pack-in material|pack-in material portion]]
|{{{1}}}}}<noinclude>[[Category:Meta templates]]</noinclude>

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Basic syntax:
:<pre>{{fromthe|NAME|DESCRIPTION|CONTINUITY FAMILY|PORTION}}</pre>

Full syntax
:<pre>{{fromthe
|name=NAME
|description=DESCRIPTION
|portion=PORTION
|continuity family=CONTINUITY FAMILY}}</pre>

All variables can be spelt out in full, but continuity family & portion have pre-coded versions. See key below.

==Continuity family==
*g1=[[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]]
*ut=[[Unicron Trilogy]]
*lafs=[[live-action film series]]
*aligned=[[Aligned continuity family|Aligned]]
*rid2001=[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)]]
*ani=[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|''Animated'']]
*cv=[[Transformers: Cyberverse (franchise)|''Cyberverse'']]
*sg=[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|''Shattered Glass'']]
*gobots=[[GoBots]] (Tonka)
*go-bots=[[Go-Bots continuity family|Go-Bots]] (Hasbro pre-school)

==Portion==
===Major examples===
====Generation 1 continuity family====
;Generation 1
*g1toon = {{Fromthe/portion|g1toon}}
*marvel = {{Fromthe/portion|marvel}}
*dwg1 = {{Fromthe/portion|dwg1}}
*idw2005 = {{Fromthe/portion|idw2005}}
*idw2019 = {{Fromthe/portion|idw2019}}
*hm = {{Fromthe/portion|hm}}
*hmtoon = {{Fromthe/portion|hmtoon}}
*mf = {{Fromthe/portion|mf}}
*mftoon = {{Fromthe/portion|mftoon}}
*vic = {{Fromthe/portion|vic}}
*victoon = {{Fromthe/portion|victoon}}
*zone = {{Fromthe/portion|zone}}
*roc = {{Fromthe/portion|roc}}
*tfgijoe = {{Fromthe/portion|tfgijoe}}
*joevstf = {{Fromthe/portion|joevstf}}
*tfvsjoe = {{Fromthe/portion|tfvsjoe}}

;Generation 2
*g2 = {{Fromthe/portion|g2}}

;Beast Era
*be = {{Fromthe/portion|be}}
*bw = {{Fromthe/portion|bw}}
*bwtoon = {{Fromthe/portion|bwtoon}}
*bm = {{Fromthe/portion|bm}}
*bmtoon = {{Fromthe/portion|bmtoon}}
*bw2 = {{Fromthe/portion|bw2}}
*bw2toon = {{Fromthe/portion|bw2toon}}
*bwneo = {{Fromthe/portion|bwneo}}
*bwneotoon = {{Fromthe/portion|bwneotoon}}
*bwuprising = {{Fromthe/portion|uprising}}

====Robots in Disguise (2001)====
*rid2001toon = {{Fromthe/portion|rid2001toon}}

====Unicron Trilogy====
*arm = {{Fromthe/portion|arm}}
*armtoon = {{Fromthe/portion|armtoon}}
*dwarm = {{Fromthe/portion|dwarm}}
*energon = {{Fromthe/portion|energon}}
*energontoon = {{Fromthe/portion|energontoon}}
*dwenergon = {{Fromthe/portion|dwenergon}}
*cyb = {{Fromthe/portion|cyb}}
*cybtoon = {{Fromthe/portion|cybtoon}}
*gfmanga = {{Fromthe/portion|gfmanga}}

====Live-action film series====
<noinclude>[[Category:Externalized documentation]]</noinclude>

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|g1|generation 1=[[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]]
|ut|aec|armada|energon|cybertron|unicron trilogy=[[Unicron Trilogy]]
|live-action film series|lafs|movie=[[live-action film series]]
|aligned=[[Aligned continuity family|Aligned]]
|rid2001=[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)]]
|ani|animated=[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|''Animated'']]
|cv|cyberverse[[Transformers: Cyberverse (franchise)|''Cyberverse'']]
|gobots=[[GoBots]]
|go-bots=[[Go-Bots continuity family|Go-Bots]]
|sg=[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|''Shattered Glass'']]
|{{{3|{{{continuity family}}}}}}}} [[continuity family]].''<noinclude>{{doc}}[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude>

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{{faction|sgAutobot}}
{{disambig3.5|the evil Autobot|his heroic counterpart|Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger}}
{{fromthe|Windcharger|evil [[Autobot]]|sg}}
[[File:Camaro-Purple.jpg|upright=1.2|thumb|]]

'''Windcharger''' is a member of [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]]'s forces.

==Fiction==
===''Shattered Glass''===

Windcharger was one of [[Side Burn (SG)|Side Burn]]'s victims. He was kidnapped and dissected to product parts for Side Burn's experiments with bio-mechanical Transhumans. His body was eventually found by Rodimus and the Autobots when Side Burn's true purpose was uncovered. {{storylink|Coalescence}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Camaro''' (Mini Vehicle, [[1985]] - [[1987]])
{{note|[[Camaro#Generation 1|Camaro]] was repurposed as ''Shattered Glass'' Windcharger.}}

: A [[redeco]] of the [[Mini Vehicle]] [[Windcharger (G1)#Generation 1|Windcharger]], Camaro transforms into a Pontiac Firebird Trans Am (which begs the question of what's up with his name). He was released only in Brazil by [[Estrela]], and was available in four different color schemes: Original ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]'' colors and white hull with grey body in 1985, and then again in 1987 in metal-flake blue with pale yellow, and dark purple with lavender robot parts. While both releases were Autobots in 1985 (but without any Autobot markings), he became part of the new "Malignus" faction in 1987 and received a "Malignus" sigil decal in [[robot mode]] (and a slight remold to accommodate the sigil).

: All of the "Optimus"/"Malignus" Mini Vehicle releases are considered fairly rare, and go for a fairly high price on the secondary market, particularly the secondary color schemes; in this instance, the purple/lavender Camaro goes for more than the white/gray.

: This mold was also [[retool]]ed to make [[Tailgate (G1)#Generation 1|Tailgate]] and later [[Rook (Universe)#Expanded Universe|Rook]].

==Notes==
*Windcharger was not physically described in the story, but [[Jesse Wittenrich]] later clarified his design intent on Twitter.<ref>[https://twitter.com/JesseWittenrich/status/934216467394023425 Tweet by @NightViper (Jesse Wittenrich), 2017/11/24]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Repurposed toys]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass Autobots]]

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|zone=[[Transformers: Zone (franchise)|''Zone'' portion]]
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|zonemanga=[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (manga)|''Zone'' manga portion]]
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|tfgijoe|tfgijoedf=[[Transformers/G.I. Joe|''Transformers/G.I. Joe'' portion]]
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|idw2019=[[IDW 2019 continuity|IDW (2019) portion]]
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|bw|metals=[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|''Beast Wars'' portion]]
|bwtoon|bwjtoon=[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon portion]]
|bm=[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|''Beast Machines'' portion]]
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|rmtoon=[[Robotmasters (cartoon)|''Robotmasters'' cartoon portion]]
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|rid2001toon=[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|cartoon portion]]
|dwrid|riddw|dwrid2001|rid2001dw=[[Ultra Magnus...to the Rescue?|Dreamwave portion]]
|arm|armada=[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|''Armada'' portion]]
|armtoon=[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|''Armada'' cartoon portion]]
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{{disambig3.5|the pre-war policeman Autobot|G1 Optimus Prime's drone unit|Roller (G1)|Roller}}
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[[File:MTMTE36cover-Roller.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|Juice Box Hero.]]
'''Roller''' was a good friend to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW 2005 continuity|Orion Pax]] and [[Ratchet (G1)/IDW 2005 continuity|Ratchet]] in the pre-war days. He served alongside Pax in the police force until... ''something'' happened to him.

He's known for being one chatty chappy! Despite his friendly nature and his incredible strength (he's one of the mighty [[Point One Percenter]]s), he's not that confident in his abilities. He'll focus on what others can do that he ''can't'', rather than what he can.

==Fiction==
===IDW 2005 continuity===
{{first|[[Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|''More than Meets the Eye'' #9]] (mentioned); [[Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|#10]] (on-panel)}}

[[File:Shadowplay Roller feet up.jpg|upright=1.95|thumb|left|Ehhh, I'll do it later.]]
Roller was one of Orion Pax's fellow officers at [[Rodion]], a gifted investigator and a trusted ally with a fondness for TV. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}} Roller was on secondment at [[Tesk]] when his fellow officers [[Springarm]] and [[Wheelarch]] were killed by [[Kroma]] and the [[Senate]]'s thugs. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (1): Metastasis|Metastasis}}

Following Orion's defeat of [[Sonic (G1)|Sonic]] and [[Boom]] in the [[Dead End (place)|Dead End]], he had Roller send in a containment trailer to arrest them. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} Roller later helped Orion by locating the [[Relinquishment Clinic]] closest to his location and bringing [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW 2005 continuity|Senator Shockwave]] into protective custody. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}}

He was a bit worried about Orion's attachment to Shockwave, having investigated the Senator and found that he had befriended and modified other people besides him, but only got Orion angry at him by sharing this information. Roller remained at the police station to protect Shockwave while Orion was breaking into the [[Primal Basilica]], but was defeated by [[Kroma]]'s cronies when they broke into the place in search for the Senator. Orion tried to save them both, but Kroma convinced Shockwave to surrender himself by holding Roller hostage.

Ratchet recalled these events as "the last time the three of us [himself, Pax and Roller] were together" {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} as Pax, Roller, and the Outliers had to go on the run after that and Ratchet remained behind to look after his patients. {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}} The last conversation the two would have would be Roller mentioning they'd find it hard to stay in touch and Ratchet, unable to bring himself to say goodbye, making noncommittal noises. {{storylink|Our Steps Will Always Rhyme}}

The fugitives would find themselves constantly fighting [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime's]] [[Elite Guard]]. The incredible abilities of the outliers made Roller feel useless, despite his considerable power: he knew Orion Pax kept him on the team because they were friends and didn't think that was enough. To give himself an edge, he began taking the [[circuit speeder]] C32.

[[File:AllOurParlousYesterdays-Roller.jpg|upright=1.8|thumb|RECTANGLE CAR NYOOOOOOM]]
In 1st cycle 502, Roller and the gang were fighting to protect a [[reproduction|spark hot spot]] in [[Alyon]] from being taken or exterminated by Sentinel. They were joined by members of the ''[[Lost Light]]'' crew [[time travel|of four million years later]], who claimed that [[Zeta Prime|Zeta]] had sent them to help. From this group, [[Rung (G1)|Rung]] tested Roller's carton of [[Kremzeek (G1)|Kremzeek]] and realised it contained C32, questioning about his habit. Roller admitted to his insecurity, saying "not everyone is born special"—even though, as Rung noted, he ''had'' been. In the final battle to save the sparks, as the Elite Guard bombarded them, Roller refused to let Orion Pax risk his life to harvest sparks and did it himself, saying he needed this. Roller was badly wounded in the process, driving Pax to a rage.

[[File:DoNotGoGentle CenseresavesRoller.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb|left|Dude, circuit speeders give you one hell of a hangover...]]
Roller was missing in the aftermath of the battle, and Pax ordered his crew to look for him. Unfortunately, after the visitors [[Mnemosurgery|altered the short term memories]] of Pax's crew, everyone forgot he was missing... {{storylink|Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|All Our Parlous Yesterdays}}

...so it was handy for him a different time traveler, [[Mortilus|Censere]], had brought him to the future as part of his mission to save Cybertronians on his list of the [[Disappeared]]! As travel using a single [[time case]] was hazardous, Roller was placed in stasis within the [[Necroworld]], millions of years later, and disguised with holograms to appear as an organic being. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}} Unaware of this, Optimus would name his [[Roller (G1)|drone module]] after his old friend.

Many years later, ''a'' Roller was considered for an exploring mission that went to [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]]. Better hope they didn't think a presumed dead guy was better than you, Wheelie! {{storylink|Spotlight: Wheelie}}

During [[Team Rodimus]]'s battle with the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] on the Necroworld, a groggy Roller woke up with his fellow rescuees to find himself in a weird place with a [[Velocity (G1)|green stranger]] and an emotional Ratchet hugging him. He'd also found the time case, and watched quietly as a long-running drama involving Megatron played out in front of him. Afterwards one such stranger, Velocity, introduced herself to him {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|Do Not Go Gentle}} and [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] began to introduce him to others the next day. One other, [[Tailgate (G1)|titchy tiny Tailgate]], amused him by picking him up and carrying him around.

[[File:Anomie Roller and Rewind chat.jpg|upright=1.0|thumb|In English, please?]]
Poor Roller got drafted into "Team Rodimus" and brought on an experimental quantum <s>leap</s> warp back to Cybertron. He proudly confirmed with GPS they were in Central [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]], only for them to learn they'd accidentally crossed to the Cybertron of [[Functionist Universe|a parallel universe]]! {{storylink|Dissolution Part 1: Some Other Cybertron|Some Other Cybertron}} To his confusion, everyone ''but'' him seemed to know what was up with this universe and Rewind's answer was no help. A team of rebels, the [[Anti-Vocationist League]], showed up to free them but, as a dismayed Roller said, they were ''rubbish''. When [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW 2005 continuity|Rodimus]] decided they should break free and help, Roller took commands from Megatron on the best way to take out [[functionary|functionaries]]. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 2: Anomie|Anomie}} Along with everyone else, he witnessed [[Kalis|the sanctuary of Adaptica]], the fake-out of Rung's alternate mode, {{storylink|Dissolution Part 3: A World Misplaced|A World Misplaced}} and the arrival of a battle-prepped [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]] come to devour said sanctuary (Embarrassingly, the last one after he congratulated the locals for getting their moon back). {{storylink|Dissolution Part 4: Bad Moon Rising|Bad Moon Rising}}

While defending Adaptica alongside Megatron, Roller told him he reminded him of his good friend Orion Pax, hey, I think you met him once. The two of them discussed where Pax must be in this world and Roller, dismayed, had to admit that all signs pointed to dead or missing; certainly, he wasn't picking up when Roller called his personal frequency. As Luna 2 began to erase the city, Roller was sent to order an evacuation of the defence force. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 5: Modes of Production|Modes of Production}} Roller and the others use the weaponized Luna 2 to teleport back to Necroworld, where Brainstorm had prepared the means to return them to their proper reality. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 6: This Machine Kills Fascists|This Machine Kills Fascists}} Roller joined the former crew of the ''Lost Light'' as they prepared to continue their quest by modifying a dead Decepticon named [[Skip]] into a workable space craft. {{storylink|After Megatron (A Dissolution Epilogue)|After Megatron}}

Skip was a tight fit for all of Rodimus's crew, particularly a Heavyweight-class like Roller. He tried to stretch out and sleep in vehicle mode, only for Rewind and [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] to sneak inside for...canoodling. Things got mildly worse when the mass displacement override shut down and the ship began shrinking, ultimately killing everyone on board. {{storylink|Sardines}}

So, after they died, Roller and the group found themselves in the [[Transformer afterlife|Afterspark]]. As you do. Roller was delighted to reconnect with [[Springarm]], a fellow officer from Rodion who died over four million years ago. Roller had always felt guilty about not being around when [[Kroma]] attacked the precinct, killing Springarm and [[Wheelarch]] and leaving Orion Pax to fend for himself. But Springarm forgave him, bringing Roller a step closer towards accepting ascension into the Matrix. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (1): Metastasis|Metastasis}} It was eventually discovered that the Afterspark was not what it seemed, however. They were actually on [[Cyberutopia]], in fact a euthanasia clinic of a world designed to guide the terminally ill into peacefully accepting death. Their friends and loved ones were holomatter-based projections, which soon faded away. {{storylink|The Everlasting Voices (3): You Are Here|You Are Here}}

[[File:LL 24 Four Matrices.jpg|upright=2.6|thumb|left|Roller happy at last :)]]
Things only got worse when Roller and company were attacked by the crew of the ''Lost Light'', reduced to feral [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeaters]] by [[Getaway]] and [[Scorponok (G1)/IDW 2005 continuity|Scorponok]] on behalf of a mysterious figure called the [[Adaptus|Grand Architect]]. Roller joined an assault team that entered the ''Lost Light'' to defeat their adversaries. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 1): A Dance Before Dying|A Dance Before Dying}} They were forced into battling Red [[Scraplet]]s in the oil reservoir, but fortunately survived thanks to Whirl's affinity to the creatures. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 2): Lūstrāre|Lūstrāre}} After Getaway was killed and Scorponok seen off, the entire cast regrouped aboard the ''Lost Light'' before being captured by the Grand Architect. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 3): Farsickness|Farsickness}}

He was with everyone else when the [[Functionist Council]]'s false effigy of [[Primus]] entered the universe through the rift in space {{storylink|Crucible (Part 4): The Return of the King|The Return of the King}} and watched over [[Flame (Marvel)|Flame]] to make sure he didn't try something funky. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 5): The Unremembering|The Unremembering}} Together with Chromedome and Rewind, Roller was dispatched to [[Port Residua]] to open a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] and help shut down the Functionist Council. {{storylink|Crucible (Part 6): A Spark Among Embers|A Spark Among Embers}}

===''Unite Warriors''===
[[File:RollerNewBody-GrandGalvatronChapter.jpg|thumb|upright=0.6|[[Unicron|He]] saw me wanderin', hatin'.]]
{{main|Roller (G1)#Japanese cartoon continuity}}
{{note|In [[Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Japanese Generation 1 continuity]], Roller the full-size Transformer and Roller the buggy drone are one and the same individual. For full details of Roller's exploits in that continuity, see the above-linked article.}}
Roller was [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s long-time partner until the Autobot leader's death in the [[Battle of Autobot City]], which left an unfortunate Roller stranded between dimensions. Over time, his memories faded, until all that remained was an implacable desire to visit revenge upon Optimus Prime. Eventually, Roller was plucked back into his home dimension in a new humanoid body by [[Unicron]], who sought vengeful warriors to serve as components of the "[[Grand Galvatron]]" combiner.

Grand Galvatron proceeded to attack Cybertron, and after the combiner was forcibly separated, Roller was nearly able to prevent the resurrection of Optimus Prime. However, in the battle against Unicron that followed, Roller decided to put aside his anger and fight alongside his old partner. After helping form Grand Galvatron for an all-out assault on Unicron, Roller then served as an arm with which [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]] landed the final blow against the Chaos Bringer.

In the battle's aftermath, Roller's memories returned and his anger disappeared, but he soon learned that Optimus's new lease on life would last just seven days. When his old partner passed away again, Roller volunteered to watch over his remains until Prime could be revived once more, so that they would never again have to part ways. After a decade-long vigil, Optimus Prime's body was abducted under Roller's watch, prompting him to join the [[Battlestars]] to track it down. Roller subsequently sacrificed his life in battle to ensure his friend's remains were recovered, and although his humanoid body was destroyed, the faithful Autobot was subsequently resurrected alongside Optimus Prime, sporting a new Microcarrier form.
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==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:TTGenerationsTG24OptimusRoller.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The other Roller. No, the ''other'' other Roller.]]
*'''Optimus Prime & Bumblebee''' (Multi-pack, 2013-[[September 28|09-28]])
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TG24'''
**''Accessories'': Ion Blaster
:The Japanese release of ''Generations'' Legends Class [[Roller (G1)#Generations|Roller]] redecoes him in metallic blue. He comes in a [[TakaraTomy]] four-pack with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#OPandBee|Optimus Prime]], as well as [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#OPandBee|Bumblebee]] and [[Blaze Master#OPandBee|Blazemaster]]. Though he isn't designed to look like IDW Roller, his bio describes him as a partner of Orion Pax in the Cybertron police force, so...
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===Unite Warriors===
[[File:TF-Unite-Warriors-UW06-Roller.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Comic-accuracy? Never heard of it.]]
*'''Grand Galvatron''' ([[2016]]-[[April 30|04-30]])
**''ID number:'' '''UW-06'''
:A [[redeco]] of ''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' [[Rook (Generations)#Generations|Rook]] (the first release of this mold in Japan), "Wandering Roller" features a color scheme based on his appearance in IDW comics. His vehicle mode, meanwhile, homages the original [[Roller (G1)|Roller]].

:As a Deluxe Class ''Combiner Wars'' mold, he can combine to form the leg or arm of any combiner from ''Combiner Wars'' or ''Unite Warriors'' combiner, but is usually associated with Grand Galvatron, as mentioned above.

:He was released as part of a Grand Galvatron giftset along with [[Cyclonus (G1)/toys#Unite Warriors|Tactician Cyclonus]], [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Unite Warriors|Ghost Starscream]], [[Thrust (Armada)#Unite Warriors 2|Curse Armada Thrust]], and [[Breakdown (WFC)#Unite Warriors 2|Zombie War Breakdown]].
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==Notes==
[[File:IDW Roller CharacterModel.jpg|upright=1.6|thumb|80% legs]]
*[[James Roberts]] confirmed that Roller ''was'' a separate person from the other Roller in an interview. This was partly to mess with us by having someone so different from the Roller we knew, partly to suggest that Optimus named his drone after someone, and partly to give Orion Pax a friend who's no longer around so we'll wonder "whatever happened to Roller?!". (Ratchet's mention of "the last time" was to make us think Roller was going to die, to build tension; Roberts laments he now can't have Roller, Ratchet, and Pax hang out post-"Shadowplay".)<ref>[http://theunderbase.libsyn.com/the-underbase-deconstructs-shadowplay "The Underbase Podcast Deconstructs Shadowplay", 39:43 - 41:54]</ref>
*In the same interview, Roberts and Milne say Roller was drawn so big because he transforms into a Cybertronian paddy wagon.
*For some time, a popular speculation among the readership of ''More than Meets the Eye'' was that Roller was the secret identity of [[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]]. [[Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays#Other trivia|Issue #36]] subsequently dropped an absurd number of teases in support of this theory, which were revealed as nothing more than cheeky red herrings when Tarn was unmasked in [[The Dying of the Light Part 6: Do Not Go Gentle|issue #55]]. Furthering the joke, the reveal of Roller as alive and intact, also in that issue, came on the page immediately after Velocity asks about the DJD leader's identity (and immediately before Tarn's ''real'' unmasking).

==References==
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