Where is his photo of him or something? The photo is actually blank!
(Spearhead 03:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

De-snark? Phah. Whatever happens, this article must continue to point out that Crosswise was a boastful narcissistic idiot, 'cause, seriously. He was. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 07:03, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

== English? ==

My question is, why does Crosswise speak PERFECT ENGLISH in the first few minutes after he is freed ( I know that he was talking to himself at the time)? I believe that, since he was found in the arctic (which has literally no population but a highway nearby) and has had no contact to humans for a thousand year's, he would be speaking in some old language or at least a few simple sentences.

User:MaximalChill

2017-12-19T04:19:14Z

MaximalChill:

User:MaximalChill

2017-12-15T16:38:40Z

MaximalChill:

Maximal Chill is a random...er...thing who does not need attention unless he is stupid enough to attract it. Do not be fooled by the name: he has absolutely no "chill". He believes his peers are intentionally stupid and are out to get it. He votes democrat for some reason but asserts he does not hate [[United States of America|America]]. This thing is about as unapproachable as [[David Willis|ItsWalky]] or [[Optimus Prime (SG)|that insane Optimus]]. [[You]] have been warned.

==About this HORRID MONSTER==

Hello to my fellow Maximals and Autobots (sorry Decepticons and Predacons, no love for you)! Apart from what was said in the above, I love the comics and the TV shows (except for [[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|that CGI patchwork of slag]] or [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|that unfaithful patchwork of slag]]). I also like drawing and hope to show you guys my best works. Also, where's that motherfragger who wrote that slag about me, I'll kill him/her!!!

User:MaximalChill

2017-12-15T16:37:38Z

MaximalChill:

Maximal Chill is a random...er...thing who does not need attention unless he is stupid enough to attract it. Do not be fooled by the name: he has absolutely no "chill". He believes his peers are intentionally stupid and are out to get it. He votes democrat for some reason but asserts he does not hate [[United States of America|America]]. This thing is about as unapproachable as [[David Willis] or [[Optimus Prime (SG)|that insane Optimus]]. [[You]] have been warned.

==About this HORRID MONSTER==

Hello to my fellow Maximals and Autobots (sorry Decepticons and Predacons, no love for you)! Apart from what was said in the above, I love the comics and the TV shows (except for [[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|that CGI patchwork of slag]] or [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|that unfaithful patchwork of slag]]). I also like drawing and hope to show you guys my best works. Also, where's that motherfragger who wrote that slag about me, I'll kill him/her!!!

AT-AT

2017-12-15T15:27:36Z

MaximalChill: Fact Check (For the record, the Republic did not use AT-AT

{{Factions|empire}}
:''AT-ATs are vehicles from the [[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]] universe.''

'''AT-ATs''' are massive, four-legged war machines used by the [[Empire]] to fight their respective enemies, the [[Rebel Alliance|Rebel]]s. The vehicles are armored against all conventional weaponry, and have the ability to [[Transformation|transform]] into humanoid forms if necessary.

In the Imperial forces, AT-ATs are piloted by certified AT-AT drivers. <ref>''Star Wars Transformers'' AT-AT Pilot / AT-AT package</ref><ref>''Crossovers'' Imperial Trooper / AT-AT package</ref>

==Fiction==
===Star Wars Transformers===
When the Empire used AT-ATs to attack [[Echo Base]], they met resistance in the form of [[Luke Skywalker]]. Skywalker's Snowspeeder's blasters were useless against the walkers' armor, so he transformed his vehicle into its robot mode to fight them toe-to-toe.<ref>''Star Wars Transformers'' [[Luke Skywalker]] / Snowspeeder package</ref>

==Toys==
===Star Wars Transformers===
[[Image:SWTF-toy AT-AT.JPG|right|250px|thumb|]]
*'''AT-AT Driver / AT-AT''' (2007)
**''Accessories:'' Missile launcher/gun, missile, AT-AT Driver figure

:This AT-AT toy transforms into a robot based on an [[wikia:starwars:Imperial Army pilot|AT-AT Driver]]. Its head-guns detach to become a hand-held missile launcher in robot mode, and its cockpit opens up to seat the little pilot toy included with all ''Star Wars Transformers'' toys.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/SWTF/AT-ATDriver/at-atdriver.htm More information on AT-AT Driver at TFU.info]''
{{-}}

===Crossovers===
[[Image:Crossovers-toy AT-AT.JPG|right|250px|thumb|]]
*'''Imperial Trooper / AT-AT''' (2008)
**''Accessories:'' Missile launcher/gun, missile

:A [[retool]] of the previous toy with a new head, this AT-AT is decorated with splotches of green forest camouflage. It does not come with a pilot mini-figure. This figure was released at the tail end of the initial Star Wars Crossovers line, shortly before the line was rebranded to bring focus to the Clone Wars animated film and TV series. As a result, it saw incredibly poor distribution.
{{--}}

==References==
<references/>

{{Wookiee|All Terrain Armored Transport|AT-AT}}

{{DEFAULTSORT:At-At}}
[[Category:Empire]]
[[Category:Star Wars vehicles]]

Talk:Cybertron (planet)

2017-12-10T21:40:25Z

MaximalChill:

I'll gladly get to work adding the Unicron Trilogy version of Cybertron if you guys actually want it here. -BC

Wasn't signed in when I added it, but anyhoo... I see the entry for the animated series has been removed on the grounds that it was copied over from Wikipedia. Now, that makes perfect sense, only... I actually ''wrote'' the article as it appears on Wikipedia. So, it's still my original work that I'm transplanting here. Yes? No? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

:Oh! Yeah, that's totally fine then. Sorry for the mixup, I just had no way of knowing it was you, or your own work. :) In that case you can put it back. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, I forgot to sign in when I added it, so that was dumb of me. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't the DoE set mention Moonbase Four? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Location, Location, Location ==
Is Shaula in Alpha Centauri? If not that location needs to be moved out of the general intro info and down to Marvel Comics, Right? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 19:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
: Shaula is 700 ly distant and Ac is 4, so... no.
: IMO, the Alpha Centauri thing is common eenough to merit being on top. Maybe with a caveat- ''Due to its spacefaring nature in the distant past, Cybertron's location varies in different continuities, but it is frequrntly round in Alpha Centauri''.
: IDW isn't the only reason to force AC out of beign a blanket statement anyway- Cybertrow as in another ''galaxy'' in the Armada comics (and cartoon... I think.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Continuity ==

The Risk game is set in the movie continuity, and gives us a map (of sorts) of that version of Cybertron based mostly on the DK guide, but with some verriation. Does anyone have the game yet, to give us a run-down of all the locations and there general placement (and any other releveant info contained therin? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:I keep claiming dibs on writing the Risk article since I have the game, but I am lame. It is time I got around to it, but if somebody beats me to it then that's great too. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Optimus Prime's visual flashback showing Megatron on Cybertron in the movie. With the constant furnace like lava flows(?) and apparently transforming landscape, is this a representation of Cybertron (or a part of it) in the movie continuity, or just Op being a big metaphor lover.

*Anyone else notice the movie Cybertron section contains very little about Cybertron itself, instead summarizing (though not in a short way) the events of the movies and comics? I know there isn't much known, but this info seems to be misplaced... the events that happened there are hardly a description of Cybertron itself. -- [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 11:42, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

OK, saw Dark of the Moon and it has lots of scenes with Cybertron, both long ago and in present day. In that film it appears to be twice the diameter of Earth and with a hollow surface composed of multiple honeycombed layers of both hexagons and octagons. Some of the largest segments are about the size of continents(!) Should these layers continue down throughout the planet, that would allow it to be that size but not so massive as to have an especially large gravity. I don't think a solid world that size would be physically impossible (after a certain mass a solid body would implode into white-dwarf-like matter if not neutronium or a singularity), but the hollow nature lets it be both big, but with an acceptable gravitational pull. So, how should the new info about the planet be added to this article? Any usable screenshots yet?

==Locations list==
The top of the article is not an appropriate place to put a list of random locations that happen to have articles. Further, [[Mass Transit System]] isn't a "location". For the time being I've simply moved the list to the bottom of the page, but it is still not an appropriate way of presenting the list. We already have [[:Category:Planet Cybertron]], so honestly I don't see the need to list these places at all unless they are going to come up naturally in the course of the article. (In a similar vein, the mention of the demons seems really out of place, as if it was put there simply for the sake of linking to that article, rather than linking to the article in the course of mentioning it.) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== spelling ==

If セイバートロン isn't [[Romanization|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't correct per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Romanization|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Kaon ==

How can New Kaon be on Cybertron?
If its a Decepticon refuge place where they go to get away from Autobots why would it be on an Autobot planet?
I'm new to Transformers so can someone explain it.
*I believe it's on some kind of asteroid. Nearly certain it was confirmed in The Arrival [[User:Eire]] 14 April 23.09 (UTC)

*You mean the comic which one I have all of them but the 6th. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:27, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

* I just checked to be sure and all it says is its on the galactic rim. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:36, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

== Toys ==

Am I missing something: Why is the Cybertron Primus toy under Generation One, was it repurposed or something?
[[Special:Contributions/86.177.132.190|86.177.132.190]] 13:16, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:Like it says in the article: "Primus was developed by Hasbro and Takara as a toy for their joint Cybertron/Galaxy Force toylines, but was released in Japan in the Generation 1 line a few months after Galaxy Force had ended its run." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:18, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::I'm confused as well. Was Japan releasing toys under a "Generation 1" toyline in 2006? Or was the toyline called something else? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:37, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:::I ''think'' it's that Primus was released in the same packaging as was being used for G1 re-issues? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::::[http://www.hlj.com/product/TAK66912 It looks like] it uses the logo for [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]. So is this another addition to that toyline after 21 years? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:15, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

== References: Animals? ==

From the article:

"If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also played host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retrorats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moosebots, turbofoxes, zap-mice robotopossums."

Some of these have their own pages, but a bunch of them aren't mentioned elsewhere (electro-toads, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, robo-rats, sheepacrons) and bring up no hits except this wiki on a web search. Does anyone have references for their origin? Thanks.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:48, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Heck, I think I can do most of these off the top of my head! Let's see... electro-toads are from "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" ("Traitorous electro-toad!"), and so are hydro-weasels ("You treacherous hydro-weasel!"), photovoltaic pussycats from "[[Changing Gears]]" ("A real photovoltaic pussycat!"), robo-rats from "[[Sea Change]]" ("Ohhh, robo-rats!"), and sheepacrons from "[[The Master Builders (episode)|The Master Builders]]" ("Ol' Powerglide just spotted your lost sheepacrons!"). Helio-hamsters... eludes me... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:10, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Ah-ha, was able to find it; it's from "[[Day of the Machines]]", when Hound laments that he and his teammates are "caged like helio-hamsters at the Cybertron Zoo." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:14, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
::You're weird, sir! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:22, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:::No argument! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:41, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Honeycomb Looking Cybertron? ==

Doesn't Cybertron in the live action movies look like a honeycomb? [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 13:36, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
:In DOTM yes. We don't have any images of that version of Cybertron given that no official screen captures of DOTM Cybertron at present. The image of Cybertron in that live-action movies section was from the Transformers movie website in 2007, and was intended to be Cybertron's appearance back then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:49, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

== Sooo Cyclonus's MTMTE Locations dump... ==

In a single pannel in MTMTE Cyclonus rattle's off thirteen really cool sounding new locations on Cybertron. Thing is there's pretty much nothing to say about them, since they're just names. (Well they're names Cyclonus knows so I guess we could say they're old). Should we still do pages for them, (and if so, saying what?), or just add them all in a group here till any are expanded on?--[[Special:Contributions/64.202.81.131|64.202.81.131]] 10:48, 14 January 2012 (EST)
:Those articles already exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:51, 14 January 2012 (EST)

== Cybertron's size in G1 cartoon ==

Here is a scale chart I forgot I had for the planets in the G1 cartoon.

[[File:Planet_scale.jpe]]

From left to right as far as I can tell:
Unicron, Lithone, Cybertron's Moon Bases, Cybertron, Junkion, Quintessa, and Earth.
--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 16:54, 27 January 2016 (EST)
:Where'd you get this from? It's cool. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 18:21, 27 January 2016 (EST)
::It was released years back, from the 2010 Auto Assembly panel from what I've gathered-
::http://news.tfw2005.com/2010/08/17/rarely-seen-transformers-artwork-from-all-series-170421
::--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 18:51, 27 January 2016 (EST)

== TLK Cybertron ==
So, the ''Cybertron'' (franchise) Primus figure was redecoed into ''TLK'' "Cybertron", who appears to transform into the planet Cybertron. If a robot named [[Primus]] transforms into a [[Cybertron (planet)|planet called Cybertron]] and a robot named [[Atlas]] transforms into a planet called [[Earth]], does this mean there needs to be a [[Cybertron (robot)]] page, separate from the planet page, since "Cybertron" is presented on the labeling of the box as the figure's/character's actual name, not just its alt mode? [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 10:31, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
:What? No. The figure is "Cybertron" no matter what mode its in. All this toy is saying is "Hey, the planet's actually alive with its own robot mode." The robot mode isn't a separate dude from the planet mode. Think of it like how, in "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]", the planet was to have had its own robot mode in that as well, which was even before the whole Primus thing came about. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 10:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

== Cybertronian Politics in the Golden Age ==

I actually have several questions:
1. Who represented the decepticons in the government before the war?
2. Are there political parties on cybertron or is the council a single party of it's own?
MaximalChill 0:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)

User:MaximalChill

2017-12-08T22:01:34Z

MaximalChill:

User:MaximalChill

2017-12-08T21:55:18Z

MaximalChill:

2017-11-28T15:43:47Z

MaximalChill: Added the fact that one can drink from the energon cubes.

{{disambig2|garden-variety cubes of energon|the really big cube of energon|Energon Cube}}

The '''energon cube''' is the safest form of [[energon]], used for transportation and storage.

==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
[[File:EnergonCubesCartoon1.jpg|right|upright=1.4|thumb|[[N.R.G.|NRG]].]]
Energon cubes could be created by [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}}, who generated the empty cube framework from his similarly-shaped chest; several other Decepticons were able to produce them as well. Energon Cubes seem to be Decepticon technology going as far back as Cybertron's [[Golden Age]]. {{storylink|War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn}}, as Autobots such as [[Hound (G1)|Hound]] were apparently unaware of them until their reawakening on [[Earth]] in 1984. By 2005, however, the Autobots had begun to use energon cubes for power as well.

Exactly how an energon cube operates is unclear, especially as their framework appears to be some sort of self-sustaining force field with no internal mechanisms. Most frequently, the empty cube is simply attached to or placed near the energy source from which it is to drain power, and the energy in question is automatically converted into liquid energon that fills the cube. Energon cubes have proven able to transform a vast array of resources into energon, including electricity, magma, oil and steam. Energon seems to have a much higher energy potential than carbon-based fuel sources: 1000 barrels of oil are needed to fill a single energon cube, {{storylink|Thief in the Night}} and the electrical energy within the synapses of the human brain are insufficient to generate even a few drops. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 3}}

The liquid energon within energon cubes is a glowing pink color, although the cubes could also be compressed for easy storage and transport, causing them to take on an iridescent rainbow effect.
Interestingly enough, one can drink the liquid energon from the energon cube, which gives transformers euphoric effects similar to that of drinking alcohol. {{storyline|Microbots}}

===Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics===
[[File:Energoncubesrockandrollout.jpg|left|upright=0.85|thumb|Energon cubes come in Grande...]]
[[File:Marvel52 concentratedenergoncubes.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|...and Tall!]]
[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] builds an energy converter that's capable of converting both [[oil]] and the sonic energy from a [[Brick Springhorn]] concert into large purple energon cubes. Unfortunately when these cubes are exposed to x-ray energy from Shockwave's weaponry, they detonate in a blinding flash of light. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}}

[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] invented the [[Geothermal Generator]] which converted the [[Earth]]'s underground heat into energon cubes. {{storylink|Used Autobots}}

'''Concentrated energon cubes''' are a highly valuable form of universally accepted currency among alien cultures. These tiny green non-glowing cubes measure approximately 6 inches (15.2 cm) on a side and are easily transportable, as well as being less combustible than normal energon cubes. {{storylink|Guess Who the Mecannibals Are Having for Dinner?}}

===''Beast Wars'' cartoon===
The naturally-occurring energon on prehistoric [[Earth]] appeared only in an unstable, highly-explosive raw [[Energon crystal|crystalline form]]. However, after the [[Planet Buster]] baked Earth's surface, the crystals were all either incinerated or somehow "converted" into more stable cubes. These cubes no longer emitted the dangerous radiation which prompted the Beast Warriors to adopt their [[beast mode]]s in the first place. They were significantly smaller than the cubes used by Transformers from before the [[Great Upgrade]] and colored blue.

[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] threatened to detonate an energon cube near her head if [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] would not remove the mind-link he had with her. The explosion would have killed them both via the link, so Tarantulas did remove it. {{storylink|Tangled Web}}

===''Animated'' cartoon===
[[File:Ani07 sllsparkinfusedenergon.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4]]
Energon cubes are purple. During the [[Great War (Animated)|Great War]], the Decepticons hoarded them in mass quantities on their battleships. However many centuries of neglect they suffered left them unstable.

They are also apparently delicious ''and'' nutritious to newborn giant spiders. {{storylink|Along Came a Spider}}

Energon becomes unstable if cut in its cube form, which combined with an elevator makes for a handy bomb in tight quarters. It is suggested that one not stare down the shaft while attempting this. {{storylink|Decepticon Air}}

There also exists 'demolition-grade' energon, which appears as palm-sized cubes and utilizes the potentially explosive properties of full-size energon. When used properly, they are very useful in clearing away rubble from space bridges. But using them ''in''correctly could lead to a messy accident—say, like the destruction of a small spaceship. {{storylink|Endgame, Part I}}

===''Prime'' cartoon===
[[File:Masters&Students-EnergonCube.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|left]]
[[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]] and [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] inserted Energon, kept inside a metal cube, into [[Skyquake (Prime)|Skyquake]]'s [[stasis pod]] to revive him. {{storylink|Masters & Students}}

Later, when [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] and his troops harvested Dark Energon from a volcano, they cut some of it into cubes. {{storylink|One Shall Rise, Part 1}}

Starscream sneaked on board the ''[[Trypticon (WFC)|Nemesis]]'' in an attempt to steal a number of energon cubes. But he dropped them when he saw Optimus Prime working for Megatron, {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 1}} and was forced to leave without them after some Vehicons came {{storylink|Orion Pax, Part 2}}

Bulkhead later discovered a stash of cubes ready for transport in a ditch but fell into the ditch by accident and was transported with the cubes onto the ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|Armada (episode)|Armada}}

After the ship crashed, Megatron infused a Dark Energon cube into its power core to bring it back online. The Dark Energon brought the ship's personality online and it was a threat until [[Jack Darby]] succeeded in extracting the Dark Energon cube from the core. {{storylink|Flying Mind}}

{{-}}

==Games==
===''War for Cybertron''===
Both the Autobots and Decepticons used energon cubes to regain energy they had lost in the heat of battle. [[Soundwave (WFC)|Soundwave]] was capable of producing energon cubes on the fly to heal his Decepticon brethren. {{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}

===''Battle for the Matrix''===
{{Note|Battle for the Matrix is a simplified retelling of the events of [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]. It can be played from the perspective of either Bumblebee or Optimus Prime.}}
[[File:Energon battleforthematrix.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|right]]
[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] and/or [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] can collect Energon cubes in order to repair themselves. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle for the Matrix}}
{{-}}

==Things that look like energon cubes but aren't==
*[[Personality component]]s for some reason look like small energon cubes. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}
*Refined [[Cybertonium]] looks like a green colored energon cube. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}
*The refined heat resistant alloy developed by [[Jessica Morgan]]'s father resembles yellow colored energon cubes. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2}}

The reason why all share the shape of energon cubes is a mystery that plagues us to this day....

==Toys==
===The Transformers Collection===
[[File:EnergonCubeToy1.jpg|right|100px|thumb|Rubik, the Amazing Cube!]]
*'''Insectrons''' (Multi-pack, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''16''' (full set)

*'''Insectron Clone Army''' (Multi-pack, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''75''' (individual), '''76''' (clones set)

:Energon Cubes were available with Takara's "TF Collection" reissue of the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]], and the set's [[redeco]], the Collector's Edition [[Insecticon (G1)|Insectron Clone Army]] ([[Shothole]], [[Salvo]] and [[Zaptrap (G1)|Zaptrap]]) box set released in Japan in 2004.

===European ''Energon'' McDonald's promotion===
[[File:Energontoy-McUnicron.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb]]
*'''Ironhide''' (Happy Meal, 2004)
*'''Megatron''' (Happy Meal, 2004)
*'''Optimus Prime''' (Happy Meal, 2004)
*'''Unicron''' (Happy Meal, 2004)
:In 2004, McDonald's locations in various parts of Europe released four ''[[Transformers: Energon (toyline)|Energon]]''-based Happy Meal toys of [[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]], [[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]], [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]], and [[Unicron/toys|Unicron]]. These toys were united by a common feature of interchangeable light-up "energon cube" accessories.

:These cubes were little more than a cheap, battery powered [[gimmick]] (the battery couldn't be replaced; the triangle-headed screws used by McDonald's are notoriously impossible to remove) that would make sound or light the toy up. The cubes were interchangeable, but not all of them were "compatible", so to speak—Unicron's light-up feature didn't work on the more opaque plastic of the other toys.

===Masterpiece===
*'''Soundwave''' (2013)
**''ID number'': '''MP-13'''

* '''Soundwave''' (2013)
**''ID number:'' '''MP-02'''

:Both the Takara and Hasbro releases of [[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]] [[Soundwave (G1)/toys##Masterpiece|Soundwave]] included an Energon Cube accessory. A clear plastic box, one side could be removed so that the cube could be plugged into Soundwave's cassette door chest to simulate the cube production he performed on the [[Sunbow Productions|Sunbow]] animated series. At least on the Hasbro release, the cube didn't attach so well, though it did connect firmly to the grid attachment for Soundwave's chest.

:The edition purchased via [[Amazon (website)|Amazon.com]] in Japan came with two additional energon cubes.

*'''Soundblaster''' ([[Calendar|March]]-[[2014|14]])
**''Japanese ID number'': '''MP-13B'''

:The Soundblaster retool includes the Energon Cube accessory, now cast in red plastic.

===Platinum Edition===
*'''Insecticons''' (Platinum Edition 3-pack, 2015)

:The Energon cube accessories were available again for this release.

{{-}}

==Merchandise==
===Live-Action Movies===
: Released along side the Movie Preview protoform figures, Energon now takes on the delicious form of candy! Held inside clear, plastic containers, the "energon" inside is more or less flavorless balls of condensed sugar with articial colors. The cubes are held together by stickers, depicting scenes from Generation 1. The larger cube, made of 8 smaller ones, can be open and folded, in one direction, until it returns to its original position.

:Out of the eight cubes, only two have candy in them. Most of the art on the cube is taken from Dreamwave art by [[Pat Lee|Superstar Funana]], with the exception of two parts that feature art by [[Don Figueroa]].

===G.I. Joe and the Transformers===
*'''Shockwave H.I.S.S. Tank with two figures & Energon''' (2012)

: An [[exclusive]] release for [[San Diego Comic-Con]] 2012. Included in the set were three energon cubes inspired by the Generation 1 cartoon. They are clear pink plastic with inserts to make them appear to be partially filled with liquid. Also included was a trolly for the included [[Battle Android Trooper]] to transport the cubes.

==Notes==
*Thanks to [[Abdul Fakkadi (G1)|the exalted leader]] of [[Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya|Carbombya]] in "[[Thief in the Night]]", we know 1000 barrels of oil makes a single energon cube. This means each cube contains the equivalent power of 42,000 U.S. gallons of crude oil. If refined into gasoline (with a conservative 30% yield ratio) that much oil would keep [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee's]] Volkswagen [[alternate mode|alt mode]] (with a rough value of 40 miles/gallon) going for approximately half a million miles without needing to refuel! That's enough to circumnavigate the [[Earth]] over seventeen times without stopping! No wonder a few cubes of the stuff got [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|ol' Megsy]] [[Microbots|drunk off his rocker!]]

===Foreign names===
*''English:'' '''Power pack''' ([[Omni Productions]] dub)

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[[Category:Energon|Cube]]
[[Category:Generation 1 technology]]
[[Category:Power sources]]
[[Category:Prime technology]]
[[Category:Substances]]
[[Category:War for Cybertron technology]]

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Hello, my fellow Maximals and Autobots.I am transmitting from an undisclosed location in the USA. I like to make theories about Cybertron and Earth alike. I 've watched most of the series and I am currently making my own Covenant of the Primes. I especially like the captions on these articles, which I really want to do on my own.

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I'll gladly get to work adding the Unicron Trilogy version of Cybertron if you guys actually want it here. -BC

Wasn't signed in when I added it, but anyhoo... I see the entry for the animated series has been removed on the grounds that it was copied over from Wikipedia. Now, that makes perfect sense, only... I actually ''wrote'' the article as it appears on Wikipedia. So, it's still my original work that I'm transplanting here. Yes? No? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

:Oh! Yeah, that's totally fine then. Sorry for the mixup, I just had no way of knowing it was you, or your own work. :) In that case you can put it back. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, I forgot to sign in when I added it, so that was dumb of me. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't the DoE set mention Moonbase Four? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Location, Location, Location ==
Is Shaula in Alpha Centauri? If not that location needs to be moved out of the general intro info and down to Marvel Comics, Right? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 19:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
: Shaula is 700 ly distant and Ac is 4, so... no.
: IMO, the Alpha Centauri thing is common eenough to merit being on top. Maybe with a caveat- ''Due to its spacefaring nature in the distant past, Cybertron's location varies in different continuities, but it is frequrntly round in Alpha Centauri''.
: IDW isn't the only reason to force AC out of beign a blanket statement anyway- Cybertrow as in another ''galaxy'' in the Armada comics (and cartoon... I think.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Continuity ==

The Risk game is set in the movie continuity, and gives us a map (of sorts) of that version of Cybertron based mostly on the DK guide, but with some verriation. Does anyone have the game yet, to give us a run-down of all the locations and there general placement (and any other releveant info contained therin? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:I keep claiming dibs on writing the Risk article since I have the game, but I am lame. It is time I got around to it, but if somebody beats me to it then that's great too. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Optimus Prime's visual flashback showing Megatron on Cybertron in the movie. With the constant furnace like lava flows(?) and apparently transforming landscape, is this a representation of Cybertron (or a part of it) in the movie continuity, or just Op being a big metaphor lover.

*Anyone else notice the movie Cybertron section contains very little about Cybertron itself, instead summarizing (though not in a short way) the events of the movies and comics? I know there isn't much known, but this info seems to be misplaced... the events that happened there are hardly a description of Cybertron itself. -- [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 11:42, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

OK, saw Dark of the Moon and it has lots of scenes with Cybertron, both long ago and in present day. In that film it appears to be twice the diameter of Earth and with a hollow surface composed of multiple honeycombed layers of both hexagons and octagons. Some of the largest segments are about the size of continents(!) Should these layers continue down throughout the planet, that would allow it to be that size but not so massive as to have an especially large gravity. I don't think a solid world that size would be physically impossible (after a certain mass a solid body would implode into white-dwarf-like matter if not neutronium or a singularity), but the hollow nature lets it be both big, but with an acceptable gravitational pull. So, how should the new info about the planet be added to this article? Any usable screenshots yet?

==Locations list==
The top of the article is not an appropriate place to put a list of random locations that happen to have articles. Further, [[Mass Transit System]] isn't a "location". For the time being I've simply moved the list to the bottom of the page, but it is still not an appropriate way of presenting the list. We already have [[:Category:Planet Cybertron]], so honestly I don't see the need to list these places at all unless they are going to come up naturally in the course of the article. (In a similar vein, the mention of the demons seems really out of place, as if it was put there simply for the sake of linking to that article, rather than linking to the article in the course of mentioning it.) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== spelling ==

If セイバートロン isn't [[Romanization|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't correct per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Romanization|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Kaon ==

How can New Kaon be on Cybertron?
If its a Decepticon refuge place where they go to get away from Autobots why would it be on an Autobot planet?
I'm new to Transformers so can someone explain it.
*I believe it's on some kind of asteroid. Nearly certain it was confirmed in The Arrival [[User:Eire]] 14 April 23.09 (UTC)

*You mean the comic which one I have all of them but the 6th. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:27, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

* I just checked to be sure and all it says is its on the galactic rim. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:36, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

== Toys ==

Am I missing something: Why is the Cybertron Primus toy under Generation One, was it repurposed or something?
[[Special:Contributions/86.177.132.190|86.177.132.190]] 13:16, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:Like it says in the article: "Primus was developed by Hasbro and Takara as a toy for their joint Cybertron/Galaxy Force toylines, but was released in Japan in the Generation 1 line a few months after Galaxy Force had ended its run." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:18, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::I'm confused as well. Was Japan releasing toys under a "Generation 1" toyline in 2006? Or was the toyline called something else? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:37, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:::I ''think'' it's that Primus was released in the same packaging as was being used for G1 re-issues? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::::[http://www.hlj.com/product/TAK66912 It looks like] it uses the logo for [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]. So is this another addition to that toyline after 21 years? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:15, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

== References: Animals? ==

From the article:

"If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also played host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retrorats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moosebots, turbofoxes, zap-mice robotopossums."

Some of these have their own pages, but a bunch of them aren't mentioned elsewhere (electro-toads, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, robo-rats, sheepacrons) and bring up no hits except this wiki on a web search. Does anyone have references for their origin? Thanks.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:48, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Heck, I think I can do most of these off the top of my head! Let's see... electro-toads are from "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" ("Traitorous electro-toad!"), and so are hydro-weasels ("You treacherous hydro-weasel!"), photovoltaic pussycats from "[[Changing Gears]]" ("A real photovoltaic pussycat!"), robo-rats from "[[Sea Change]]" ("Ohhh, robo-rats!"), and sheepacrons from "[[The Master Builders (episode)|The Master Builders]]" ("Ol' Powerglide just spotted your lost sheepacrons!"). Helio-hamsters... eludes me... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:10, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Ah-ha, was able to find it; it's from "[[Day of the Machines]]", when Hound laments that he and his teammates are "caged like helio-hamsters at the Cybertron Zoo." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:14, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
::You're weird, sir! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:22, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:::No argument! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:41, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Honeycomb Looking Cybertron? ==

Doesn't Cybertron in the live action movies look like a honeycomb? [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 13:36, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
:In DOTM yes. We don't have any images of that version of Cybertron given that no official screen captures of DOTM Cybertron at present. The image of Cybertron in that live-action movies section was from the Transformers movie website in 2007, and was intended to be Cybertron's appearance back then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:49, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

== Sooo Cyclonus's MTMTE Locations dump... ==

In a single pannel in MTMTE Cyclonus rattle's off thirteen really cool sounding new locations on Cybertron. Thing is there's pretty much nothing to say about them, since they're just names. (Well they're names Cyclonus knows so I guess we could say they're old). Should we still do pages for them, (and if so, saying what?), or just add them all in a group here till any are expanded on?--[[Special:Contributions/64.202.81.131|64.202.81.131]] 10:48, 14 January 2012 (EST)
:Those articles already exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:51, 14 January 2012 (EST)

== Cybertron's size in G1 cartoon ==

Here is a scale chart I forgot I had for the planets in the G1 cartoon.

[[File:Planet_scale.jpe]]

From left to right as far as I can tell:
Unicron, Lithone, Cybertron's Moon Bases, Cybertron, Junkion, Quintessa, and Earth.
--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 16:54, 27 January 2016 (EST)
:Where'd you get this from? It's cool. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 18:21, 27 January 2016 (EST)
::It was released years back, from the 2010 Auto Assembly panel from what I've gathered-
::http://news.tfw2005.com/2010/08/17/rarely-seen-transformers-artwork-from-all-series-170421
::--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 18:51, 27 January 2016 (EST)

== TLK Cybertron ==
So, the ''Cybertron'' (franchise) Primus figure was redecoed into ''TLK'' "Cybertron", who appears to transform into the planet Cybertron. If a robot named [[Primus]] transforms into a [[Cybertron (planet)|planet called Cybertron]] and a robot named [[Atlas]] transforms into a planet called [[Earth]], does this mean there needs to be a [[Cybertron (robot)]] page, separate from the planet page, since "Cybertron" is presented on the labeling of the box as the figure's/character's actual name, not just its alt mode? [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 10:31, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
:What? No. The figure is "Cybertron" no matter what mode its in. All this toy is saying is "Hey, the planet's actually alive with its own robot mode." The robot mode isn't a separate dude from the planet mode. Think of it like how, in "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]", the planet was to have had its own robot mode in that as well, which was even before the whole Primus thing came about. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 10:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

== Cybertronian Politics in the Golden Age ==

I actually have several questions:
1. Was there a social hierarchy in which the rich had power in the government?
2. Who represented the decepticons in the government before the war?
3. Are there political parties on cybertron or is the council a single party of it's own?
4. Do the scholars have a role in government, much like Confucianists?
MaximalChill 00:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)

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I'll gladly get to work adding the Unicron Trilogy version of Cybertron if you guys actually want it here. -BC

Wasn't signed in when I added it, but anyhoo... I see the entry for the animated series has been removed on the grounds that it was copied over from Wikipedia. Now, that makes perfect sense, only... I actually ''wrote'' the article as it appears on Wikipedia. So, it's still my original work that I'm transplanting here. Yes? No? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

:Oh! Yeah, that's totally fine then. Sorry for the mixup, I just had no way of knowing it was you, or your own work. :) In that case you can put it back. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, I forgot to sign in when I added it, so that was dumb of me. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't the DoE set mention Moonbase Four? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Location, Location, Location ==
Is Shaula in Alpha Centauri? If not that location needs to be moved out of the general intro info and down to Marvel Comics, Right? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 19:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
: Shaula is 700 ly distant and Ac is 4, so... no.
: IMO, the Alpha Centauri thing is common eenough to merit being on top. Maybe with a caveat- ''Due to its spacefaring nature in the distant past, Cybertron's location varies in different continuities, but it is frequrntly round in Alpha Centauri''.
: IDW isn't the only reason to force AC out of beign a blanket statement anyway- Cybertrow as in another ''galaxy'' in the Armada comics (and cartoon... I think.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Continuity ==

The Risk game is set in the movie continuity, and gives us a map (of sorts) of that version of Cybertron based mostly on the DK guide, but with some verriation. Does anyone have the game yet, to give us a run-down of all the locations and there general placement (and any other releveant info contained therin? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:I keep claiming dibs on writing the Risk article since I have the game, but I am lame. It is time I got around to it, but if somebody beats me to it then that's great too. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Optimus Prime's visual flashback showing Megatron on Cybertron in the movie. With the constant furnace like lava flows(?) and apparently transforming landscape, is this a representation of Cybertron (or a part of it) in the movie continuity, or just Op being a big metaphor lover.

*Anyone else notice the movie Cybertron section contains very little about Cybertron itself, instead summarizing (though not in a short way) the events of the movies and comics? I know there isn't much known, but this info seems to be misplaced... the events that happened there are hardly a description of Cybertron itself. -- [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 11:42, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

OK, saw Dark of the Moon and it has lots of scenes with Cybertron, both long ago and in present day. In that film it appears to be twice the diameter of Earth and with a hollow surface composed of multiple honeycombed layers of both hexagons and octagons. Some of the largest segments are about the size of continents(!) Should these layers continue down throughout the planet, that would allow it to be that size but not so massive as to have an especially large gravity. I don't think a solid world that size would be physically impossible (after a certain mass a solid body would implode into white-dwarf-like matter if not neutronium or a singularity), but the hollow nature lets it be both big, but with an acceptable gravitational pull. So, how should the new info about the planet be added to this article? Any usable screenshots yet?

==Locations list==
The top of the article is not an appropriate place to put a list of random locations that happen to have articles. Further, [[Mass Transit System]] isn't a "location". For the time being I've simply moved the list to the bottom of the page, but it is still not an appropriate way of presenting the list. We already have [[:Category:Planet Cybertron]], so honestly I don't see the need to list these places at all unless they are going to come up naturally in the course of the article. (In a similar vein, the mention of the demons seems really out of place, as if it was put there simply for the sake of linking to that article, rather than linking to the article in the course of mentioning it.) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== spelling ==

If セイバートロン isn't [[Romanization|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't correct per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Romanization|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Kaon ==

How can New Kaon be on Cybertron?
If its a Decepticon refuge place where they go to get away from Autobots why would it be on an Autobot planet?
I'm new to Transformers so can someone explain it.
*I believe it's on some kind of asteroid. Nearly certain it was confirmed in The Arrival [[User:Eire]] 14 April 23.09 (UTC)

*You mean the comic which one I have all of them but the 6th. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:27, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

* I just checked to be sure and all it says is its on the galactic rim. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:36, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

== Toys ==

Am I missing something: Why is the Cybertron Primus toy under Generation One, was it repurposed or something?
[[Special:Contributions/86.177.132.190|86.177.132.190]] 13:16, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:Like it says in the article: "Primus was developed by Hasbro and Takara as a toy for their joint Cybertron/Galaxy Force toylines, but was released in Japan in the Generation 1 line a few months after Galaxy Force had ended its run." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:18, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::I'm confused as well. Was Japan releasing toys under a "Generation 1" toyline in 2006? Or was the toyline called something else? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:37, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:::I ''think'' it's that Primus was released in the same packaging as was being used for G1 re-issues? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::::[http://www.hlj.com/product/TAK66912 It looks like] it uses the logo for [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]. So is this another addition to that toyline after 21 years? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:15, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

== References: Animals? ==

From the article:

"If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also played host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retrorats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moosebots, turbofoxes, zap-mice robotopossums."

Some of these have their own pages, but a bunch of them aren't mentioned elsewhere (electro-toads, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, robo-rats, sheepacrons) and bring up no hits except this wiki on a web search. Does anyone have references for their origin? Thanks.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:48, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Heck, I think I can do most of these off the top of my head! Let's see... electro-toads are from "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" ("Traitorous electro-toad!"), and so are hydro-weasels ("You treacherous hydro-weasel!"), photovoltaic pussycats from "[[Changing Gears]]" ("A real photovoltaic pussycat!"), robo-rats from "[[Sea Change]]" ("Ohhh, robo-rats!"), and sheepacrons from "[[The Master Builders (episode)|The Master Builders]]" ("Ol' Powerglide just spotted your lost sheepacrons!"). Helio-hamsters... eludes me... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:10, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Ah-ha, was able to find it; it's from "[[Day of the Machines]]", when Hound laments that he and his teammates are "caged like helio-hamsters at the Cybertron Zoo." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:14, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
::You're weird, sir! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:22, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:::No argument! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:41, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Honeycomb Looking Cybertron? ==

Doesn't Cybertron in the live action movies look like a honeycomb? [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 13:36, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
:In DOTM yes. We don't have any images of that version of Cybertron given that no official screen captures of DOTM Cybertron at present. The image of Cybertron in that live-action movies section was from the Transformers movie website in 2007, and was intended to be Cybertron's appearance back then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:49, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

== Sooo Cyclonus's MTMTE Locations dump... ==

In a single pannel in MTMTE Cyclonus rattle's off thirteen really cool sounding new locations on Cybertron. Thing is there's pretty much nothing to say about them, since they're just names. (Well they're names Cyclonus knows so I guess we could say they're old). Should we still do pages for them, (and if so, saying what?), or just add them all in a group here till any are expanded on?--[[Special:Contributions/64.202.81.131|64.202.81.131]] 10:48, 14 January 2012 (EST)
:Those articles already exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:51, 14 January 2012 (EST)

== Cybertron's size in G1 cartoon ==

Here is a scale chart I forgot I had for the planets in the G1 cartoon.

[[File:Planet_scale.jpe]]

From left to right as far as I can tell:
Unicron, Lithone, Cybertron's Moon Bases, Cybertron, Junkion, Quintessa, and Earth.
--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 16:54, 27 January 2016 (EST)
:Where'd you get this from? It's cool. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 18:21, 27 January 2016 (EST)
::It was released years back, from the 2010 Auto Assembly panel from what I've gathered-
::http://news.tfw2005.com/2010/08/17/rarely-seen-transformers-artwork-from-all-series-170421
::--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 18:51, 27 January 2016 (EST)

== TLK Cybertron ==
So, the ''Cybertron'' (franchise) Primus figure was redecoed into ''TLK'' "Cybertron", who appears to transform into the planet Cybertron. If a robot named [[Primus]] transforms into a [[Cybertron (planet)|planet called Cybertron]] and a robot named [[Atlas]] transforms into a planet called [[Earth]], does this mean there needs to be a [[Cybertron (robot)]] page, separate from the planet page, since "Cybertron" is presented on the labeling of the box as the figure's/character's actual name, not just its alt mode? [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 10:31, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
:What? No. The figure is "Cybertron" no matter what mode its in. All this toy is saying is "Hey, the planet's actually alive with its own robot mode." The robot mode isn't a separate dude from the planet mode. Think of it like how, in "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]", the planet was to have had its own robot mode in that as well, which was even before the whole Primus thing came about. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 10:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

== Cybertronian Politics and law ==

I actually have several questions:
1. Was there a social hierarchy in which the rich had power in the government?
2. Who represented the decepticons in the government before the war?
3. Do Cybertronians have lawyers or is it basically sharia law (which basically means swift punishment)?
4. Cybertronian traffic laws: Do they even exist?
MaximalChill 00:02, 27 November 2017 (EST)

Talk:Cybertron (planet)

2017-11-27T05:00:41Z

MaximalChill: /* Cybertronian Politics and law */

I'll gladly get to work adding the Unicron Trilogy version of Cybertron if you guys actually want it here. -BC

Wasn't signed in when I added it, but anyhoo... I see the entry for the animated series has been removed on the grounds that it was copied over from Wikipedia. Now, that makes perfect sense, only... I actually ''wrote'' the article as it appears on Wikipedia. So, it's still my original work that I'm transplanting here. Yes? No? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

:Oh! Yeah, that's totally fine then. Sorry for the mixup, I just had no way of knowing it was you, or your own work. :) In that case you can put it back. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, I forgot to sign in when I added it, so that was dumb of me. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't the DoE set mention Moonbase Four? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Location, Location, Location ==
Is Shaula in Alpha Centauri? If not that location needs to be moved out of the general intro info and down to Marvel Comics, Right? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 19:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
: Shaula is 700 ly distant and Ac is 4, so... no.
: IMO, the Alpha Centauri thing is common eenough to merit being on top. Maybe with a caveat- ''Due to its spacefaring nature in the distant past, Cybertron's location varies in different continuities, but it is frequrntly round in Alpha Centauri''.
: IDW isn't the only reason to force AC out of beign a blanket statement anyway- Cybertrow as in another ''galaxy'' in the Armada comics (and cartoon... I think.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Continuity ==

The Risk game is set in the movie continuity, and gives us a map (of sorts) of that version of Cybertron based mostly on the DK guide, but with some verriation. Does anyone have the game yet, to give us a run-down of all the locations and there general placement (and any other releveant info contained therin? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:I keep claiming dibs on writing the Risk article since I have the game, but I am lame. It is time I got around to it, but if somebody beats me to it then that's great too. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Optimus Prime's visual flashback showing Megatron on Cybertron in the movie. With the constant furnace like lava flows(?) and apparently transforming landscape, is this a representation of Cybertron (or a part of it) in the movie continuity, or just Op being a big metaphor lover.

*Anyone else notice the movie Cybertron section contains very little about Cybertron itself, instead summarizing (though not in a short way) the events of the movies and comics? I know there isn't much known, but this info seems to be misplaced... the events that happened there are hardly a description of Cybertron itself. -- [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 11:42, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

OK, saw Dark of the Moon and it has lots of scenes with Cybertron, both long ago and in present day. In that film it appears to be twice the diameter of Earth and with a hollow surface composed of multiple honeycombed layers of both hexagons and octagons. Some of the largest segments are about the size of continents(!) Should these layers continue down throughout the planet, that would allow it to be that size but not so massive as to have an especially large gravity. I don't think a solid world that size would be physically impossible (after a certain mass a solid body would implode into white-dwarf-like matter if not neutronium or a singularity), but the hollow nature lets it be both big, but with an acceptable gravitational pull. So, how should the new info about the planet be added to this article? Any usable screenshots yet?

==Locations list==
The top of the article is not an appropriate place to put a list of random locations that happen to have articles. Further, [[Mass Transit System]] isn't a "location". For the time being I've simply moved the list to the bottom of the page, but it is still not an appropriate way of presenting the list. We already have [[:Category:Planet Cybertron]], so honestly I don't see the need to list these places at all unless they are going to come up naturally in the course of the article. (In a similar vein, the mention of the demons seems really out of place, as if it was put there simply for the sake of linking to that article, rather than linking to the article in the course of mentioning it.) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== spelling ==

If セイバートロン isn't [[Romanization|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't correct per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Romanization|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Kaon ==

How can New Kaon be on Cybertron?
If its a Decepticon refuge place where they go to get away from Autobots why would it be on an Autobot planet?
I'm new to Transformers so can someone explain it.
*I believe it's on some kind of asteroid. Nearly certain it was confirmed in The Arrival [[User:Eire]] 14 April 23.09 (UTC)

*You mean the comic which one I have all of them but the 6th. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:27, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

* I just checked to be sure and all it says is its on the galactic rim. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:36, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

== Toys ==

Am I missing something: Why is the Cybertron Primus toy under Generation One, was it repurposed or something?
[[Special:Contributions/86.177.132.190|86.177.132.190]] 13:16, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:Like it says in the article: "Primus was developed by Hasbro and Takara as a toy for their joint Cybertron/Galaxy Force toylines, but was released in Japan in the Generation 1 line a few months after Galaxy Force had ended its run." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:18, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::I'm confused as well. Was Japan releasing toys under a "Generation 1" toyline in 2006? Or was the toyline called something else? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:37, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:::I ''think'' it's that Primus was released in the same packaging as was being used for G1 re-issues? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::::[http://www.hlj.com/product/TAK66912 It looks like] it uses the logo for [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]. So is this another addition to that toyline after 21 years? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:15, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

== References: Animals? ==

From the article:

"If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also played host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retrorats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moosebots, turbofoxes, zap-mice robotopossums."

Some of these have their own pages, but a bunch of them aren't mentioned elsewhere (electro-toads, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, robo-rats, sheepacrons) and bring up no hits except this wiki on a web search. Does anyone have references for their origin? Thanks.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:48, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Heck, I think I can do most of these off the top of my head! Let's see... electro-toads are from "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" ("Traitorous electro-toad!"), and so are hydro-weasels ("You treacherous hydro-weasel!"), photovoltaic pussycats from "[[Changing Gears]]" ("A real photovoltaic pussycat!"), robo-rats from "[[Sea Change]]" ("Ohhh, robo-rats!"), and sheepacrons from "[[The Master Builders (episode)|The Master Builders]]" ("Ol' Powerglide just spotted your lost sheepacrons!"). Helio-hamsters... eludes me... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:10, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Ah-ha, was able to find it; it's from "[[Day of the Machines]]", when Hound laments that he and his teammates are "caged like helio-hamsters at the Cybertron Zoo." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:14, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
::You're weird, sir! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:22, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:::No argument! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:41, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Honeycomb Looking Cybertron? ==

Doesn't Cybertron in the live action movies look like a honeycomb? [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 13:36, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
:In DOTM yes. We don't have any images of that version of Cybertron given that no official screen captures of DOTM Cybertron at present. The image of Cybertron in that live-action movies section was from the Transformers movie website in 2007, and was intended to be Cybertron's appearance back then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:49, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

== Sooo Cyclonus's MTMTE Locations dump... ==

In a single pannel in MTMTE Cyclonus rattle's off thirteen really cool sounding new locations on Cybertron. Thing is there's pretty much nothing to say about them, since they're just names. (Well they're names Cyclonus knows so I guess we could say they're old). Should we still do pages for them, (and if so, saying what?), or just add them all in a group here till any are expanded on?--[[Special:Contributions/64.202.81.131|64.202.81.131]] 10:48, 14 January 2012 (EST)
:Those articles already exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:51, 14 January 2012 (EST)

== Cybertron's size in G1 cartoon ==

Here is a scale chart I forgot I had for the planets in the G1 cartoon.

[[File:Planet_scale.jpe]]

From left to right as far as I can tell:
Unicron, Lithone, Cybertron's Moon Bases, Cybertron, Junkion, Quintessa, and Earth.
--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 16:54, 27 January 2016 (EST)
:Where'd you get this from? It's cool. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 18:21, 27 January 2016 (EST)
::It was released years back, from the 2010 Auto Assembly panel from what I've gathered-
::http://news.tfw2005.com/2010/08/17/rarely-seen-transformers-artwork-from-all-series-170421
::--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 18:51, 27 January 2016 (EST)

== TLK Cybertron ==
So, the ''Cybertron'' (franchise) Primus figure was redecoed into ''TLK'' "Cybertron", who appears to transform into the planet Cybertron. If a robot named [[Primus]] transforms into a [[Cybertron (planet)|planet called Cybertron]] and a robot named [[Atlas]] transforms into a planet called [[Earth]], does this mean there needs to be a [[Cybertron (robot)]] page, separate from the planet page, since "Cybertron" is presented on the labeling of the box as the figure's/character's actual name, not just its alt mode? [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 10:31, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
:What? No. The figure is "Cybertron" no matter what mode its in. All this toy is saying is "Hey, the planet's actually alive with its own robot mode." The robot mode isn't a separate dude from the planet mode. Think of it like how, in "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]", the planet was to have had its own robot mode in that as well, which was even before the whole Primus thing came about. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 10:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

== Cybertronian Politics and law ==

I actually have several questions:
1. Was there a social hierarchy in which the rich had power in the government?
2. Who represented the decepticons in the government before the war?
3. Do Cybertronians have lawyers or is it basically sharia law (which basically means swift punishment)?
4. Cybertronian traffic laws: Do they even exist?
Chilly P 00:00, 27 November 2017 (EST)

Talk:Cybertron (planet)

2017-11-27T04:59:33Z

MaximalChill: /* Cybertronian Politics and law */ new section

I'll gladly get to work adding the Unicron Trilogy version of Cybertron if you guys actually want it here. -BC

Wasn't signed in when I added it, but anyhoo... I see the entry for the animated series has been removed on the grounds that it was copied over from Wikipedia. Now, that makes perfect sense, only... I actually ''wrote'' the article as it appears on Wikipedia. So, it's still my original work that I'm transplanting here. Yes? No? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:06, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

:Oh! Yeah, that's totally fine then. Sorry for the mixup, I just had no way of knowing it was you, or your own work. :) In that case you can put it back. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 20:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

::Yeah, I forgot to sign in when I added it, so that was dumb of me. :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Doesn't the DoE set mention Moonbase Four? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:09, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

== Location, Location, Location ==
Is Shaula in Alpha Centauri? If not that location needs to be moved out of the general intro info and down to Marvel Comics, Right? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 19:11, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
: Shaula is 700 ly distant and Ac is 4, so... no.
: IMO, the Alpha Centauri thing is common eenough to merit being on top. Maybe with a caveat- ''Due to its spacefaring nature in the distant past, Cybertron's location varies in different continuities, but it is frequrntly round in Alpha Centauri''.
: IDW isn't the only reason to force AC out of beign a blanket statement anyway- Cybertrow as in another ''galaxy'' in the Armada comics (and cartoon... I think.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Continuity ==

The Risk game is set in the movie continuity, and gives us a map (of sorts) of that version of Cybertron based mostly on the DK guide, but with some verriation. Does anyone have the game yet, to give us a run-down of all the locations and there general placement (and any other releveant info contained therin? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 11:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:I keep claiming dibs on writing the Risk article since I have the game, but I am lame. It is time I got around to it, but if somebody beats me to it then that's great too. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Optimus Prime's visual flashback showing Megatron on Cybertron in the movie. With the constant furnace like lava flows(?) and apparently transforming landscape, is this a representation of Cybertron (or a part of it) in the movie continuity, or just Op being a big metaphor lover.

*Anyone else notice the movie Cybertron section contains very little about Cybertron itself, instead summarizing (though not in a short way) the events of the movies and comics? I know there isn't much known, but this info seems to be misplaced... the events that happened there are hardly a description of Cybertron itself. -- [[User:Cliffjumper prime|Cliffjumper prime]] 11:42, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

OK, saw Dark of the Moon and it has lots of scenes with Cybertron, both long ago and in present day. In that film it appears to be twice the diameter of Earth and with a hollow surface composed of multiple honeycombed layers of both hexagons and octagons. Some of the largest segments are about the size of continents(!) Should these layers continue down throughout the planet, that would allow it to be that size but not so massive as to have an especially large gravity. I don't think a solid world that size would be physically impossible (after a certain mass a solid body would implode into white-dwarf-like matter if not neutronium or a singularity), but the hollow nature lets it be both big, but with an acceptable gravitational pull. So, how should the new info about the planet be added to this article? Any usable screenshots yet?

==Locations list==
The top of the article is not an appropriate place to put a list of random locations that happen to have articles. Further, [[Mass Transit System]] isn't a "location". For the time being I've simply moved the list to the bottom of the page, but it is still not an appropriate way of presenting the list. We already have [[:Category:Planet Cybertron]], so honestly I don't see the need to list these places at all unless they are going to come up naturally in the course of the article. (In a similar vein, the mention of the demons seems really out of place, as if it was put there simply for the sake of linking to that article, rather than linking to the article in the course of mentioning it.) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 03:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

== spelling ==

If セイバートロン isn't [[Romanization|romanized]] as 'Seibertron,' fine, but shouldn't the footnote at least include that even though "セイバートロン" and "サイバートロン" are both frequently r2omanized as 'Cybertron'—and thus 'Seibertron' isn't correct per-se... the '''are''' two are still spelled differently in Japan? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::I debated about how to handle that, because, strictly speaking, this is not a spelling issue but a ''pronunciation'' issue. Like "bass" (the guitar) and "bass" (the fish), they're words that are spelled the same but pronounced differently... uh, [[wikipedia:Heteronym(linguistics)|heteronyms]]. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I am sure セイバートロン couldn't be a pronunciation of ''Cybertron''. It could be "Sabertron", "Seibatron", "Seibertron"... and others. ''[[Romanization|Darn]]''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 00:45, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, that is the other issue at hand: we have that "セイバートロン" is written "Cybertron" in English from three different sources (Headmasters game, laserdisc, Galaxy Force packaging), so I don't think we can ignore that. I will say, though, that the issue of Japan writing things in English one way and having people pronounce them another way is not unique to this situation... it crops up in Capcom's Mega Man/Rockman enemies, for example. Despite his name being "Bomb Man" in written English, the katakana for the character's name reads "Bomber Man" (ボンバーマン); the same situation exists for "Centuar Man", whose name in katakana actually reads "Kentauros Man" (ケンタウロスマン). It's not an issue of not ''being able'' to derive "seibaatoron" from "Cybertron", as I see it. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
:::::Talking about the laser disc, that reminds me something. The Planet Cybertron is called Cybertron(''Saibatoron'') instead of ''Seibatoron'' in the Japanese dub of 4th season. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 14:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

== New Kaon ==

How can New Kaon be on Cybertron?
If its a Decepticon refuge place where they go to get away from Autobots why would it be on an Autobot planet?
I'm new to Transformers so can someone explain it.
*I believe it's on some kind of asteroid. Nearly certain it was confirmed in The Arrival [[User:Eire]] 14 April 23.09 (UTC)

*You mean the comic which one I have all of them but the 6th. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:27, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

* I just checked to be sure and all it says is its on the galactic rim. --[[User:TransformerChick|TransformerChick]] 18:36, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

== Toys ==

Am I missing something: Why is the Cybertron Primus toy under Generation One, was it repurposed or something?
[[Special:Contributions/86.177.132.190|86.177.132.190]] 13:16, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:Like it says in the article: "Primus was developed by Hasbro and Takara as a toy for their joint Cybertron/Galaxy Force toylines, but was released in Japan in the Generation 1 line a few months after Galaxy Force had ended its run." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:18, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::I'm confused as well. Was Japan releasing toys under a "Generation 1" toyline in 2006? Or was the toyline called something else? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:37, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
:::I ''think'' it's that Primus was released in the same packaging as was being used for G1 re-issues? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:54, 28 March 2010 (EDT)
::::[http://www.hlj.com/product/TAK66912 It looks like] it uses the logo for [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (toyline)|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers]]. So is this another addition to that toyline after 21 years? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:15, 28 March 2010 (EDT)

== References: Animals? ==

From the article:

"If the assorted colourful exclamations made by numerous Transformers are anything to go by, Cybertron also played host to a vast array of fauna, including but not limited to: ant-droids, bolt-bats, cyber-ducks, dynametal ducks, electro-toads, glitch mice, guineapigatrons, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, retrorats, robo-rats, sheepacrons, titanium moosebots, turbofoxes, zap-mice robotopossums."

Some of these have their own pages, but a bunch of them aren't mentioned elsewhere (electro-toads, helio-hamsters, hydro-weasels, photovoltaic pussycats, robo-rats, sheepacrons) and bring up no hits except this wiki on a web search. Does anyone have references for their origin? Thanks.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 08:48, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Heck, I think I can do most of these off the top of my head! Let's see... electro-toads are from "[[Atlantis, Arise!]]" ("Traitorous electro-toad!"), and so are hydro-weasels ("You treacherous hydro-weasel!"), photovoltaic pussycats from "[[Changing Gears]]" ("A real photovoltaic pussycat!"), robo-rats from "[[Sea Change]]" ("Ohhh, robo-rats!"), and sheepacrons from "[[The Master Builders (episode)|The Master Builders]]" ("Ol' Powerglide just spotted your lost sheepacrons!"). Helio-hamsters... eludes me... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:10, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:Ah-ha, was able to find it; it's from "[[Day of the Machines]]", when Hound laments that he and his teammates are "caged like helio-hamsters at the Cybertron Zoo." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:14, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
::You're weird, sir! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 09:22, 6 April 2011 (EDT)
:::No argument! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:41, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Honeycomb Looking Cybertron? ==

Doesn't Cybertron in the live action movies look like a honeycomb? [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 13:36, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
:In DOTM yes. We don't have any images of that version of Cybertron given that no official screen captures of DOTM Cybertron at present. The image of Cybertron in that live-action movies section was from the Transformers movie website in 2007, and was intended to be Cybertron's appearance back then. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:49, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

== Sooo Cyclonus's MTMTE Locations dump... ==

In a single pannel in MTMTE Cyclonus rattle's off thirteen really cool sounding new locations on Cybertron. Thing is there's pretty much nothing to say about them, since they're just names. (Well they're names Cyclonus knows so I guess we could say they're old). Should we still do pages for them, (and if so, saying what?), or just add them all in a group here till any are expanded on?--[[Special:Contributions/64.202.81.131|64.202.81.131]] 10:48, 14 January 2012 (EST)
:Those articles already exist. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:51, 14 January 2012 (EST)

== Cybertron's size in G1 cartoon ==

Here is a scale chart I forgot I had for the planets in the G1 cartoon.

[[File:Planet_scale.jpe]]

From left to right as far as I can tell:
Unicron, Lithone, Cybertron's Moon Bases, Cybertron, Junkion, Quintessa, and Earth.
--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 16:54, 27 January 2016 (EST)
:Where'd you get this from? It's cool. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 18:21, 27 January 2016 (EST)
::It was released years back, from the 2010 Auto Assembly panel from what I've gathered-
::http://news.tfw2005.com/2010/08/17/rarely-seen-transformers-artwork-from-all-series-170421
::--[[User:Iustitia|Iustitia]] ([[User talk:Iustitia|talk]]) 18:51, 27 January 2016 (EST)

== TLK Cybertron ==
So, the ''Cybertron'' (franchise) Primus figure was redecoed into ''TLK'' "Cybertron", who appears to transform into the planet Cybertron. If a robot named [[Primus]] transforms into a [[Cybertron (planet)|planet called Cybertron]] and a robot named [[Atlas]] transforms into a planet called [[Earth]], does this mean there needs to be a [[Cybertron (robot)]] page, separate from the planet page, since "Cybertron" is presented on the labeling of the box as the figure's/character's actual name, not just its alt mode? [[User:TGB|TGB]] ([[User talk:TGB|talk]]) 10:31, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
:What? No. The figure is "Cybertron" no matter what mode its in. All this toy is saying is "Hey, the planet's actually alive with its own robot mode." The robot mode isn't a separate dude from the planet mode. Think of it like how, in "[[The Secret of Cybertron]]", the planet was to have had its own robot mode in that as well, which was even before the whole Primus thing came about. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 10:52, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

== Cybertronian Politics and law ==

I actually have several questions:
1. Was there a social hierarchy in which the rich had power in the government?
2. Who represented the decepticons in the government before the war?
3. Do Cybertronians have lawyers or is it basically sharia law (which basically means swift punishment)?
4. Cybertronian traffic laws: Do they even exist?