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Talk:Fallen Comrades

2017-03-10T23:53:47Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* Potental Continuity Errors. */ new section

I know they called it the arctic region, but was the statis pod in what we'd technically call the arctic, or just a cold area? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:08, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
:They did NOT call it the arctic region. It was the [[Northern Sector]]. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:22, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

:Thank you Kil, one hates to perpetuate misinformation. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:50, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

== Potental Continuity Errors. ==

So in the episode, Waspinator uses his laser eyes to open the pod, though I'm not sure if he ever uses them again, or has ever used them before then. --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 18:53, 10 March 2017 (EST)

Talk:Optimus Primal (BW)/toys

2017-03-02T22:46:13Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* MP Paint Problems */ new section

==Primals in Japan==
So who wants to break down who all of these are/where they came from?

[http://obscuretf.com/SpecialOptimusPrimals.jpg http://obscuretf.com/SpecialOptimusPrimals.jpg]

We cover most of them, but it looks like some of the info might be in conflict with what we have? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 00:59, 17 June 2011 (EDT)

:Clockwise:
:*Clear Convoy - Toys"R"Us (Japan) exclusive, July, 1998
:*Burning Convoy - Released along with Flash Lio Convoy when the film ''[[Lio Convoy in Imminent Danger!]]'' premieres
:*Blue Convoy - Contest prize for Comic BomBom May, 1998, only 30 pieces are available.
:*Red Convoy - Exclusive for TV magazine as presents (possibly as Lucky draw items), only 20 pieces are available.
:*Gold Convoy - Contest prize for Comic BomBom March, 1998, only 10 pieces are available.
:*Grey Convoy - Standard edition (Or say, standard edition for Japanese release)
:*Black Convoy - Early-released edition in July, 1997. (It seems this one is as same as the original version in America and Europe.)
:--'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 03:31, 17 June 2011 (EDT)

==One More bit of Bat-Toy Trivia==
I dropped a bit into the notes-section about how the Bat-Toy is the original inspiration of the "Prime Jets" in the cartoon, with the original concept being that Primal and Meggs would quad-change between both sets of robot and beast forms. I KNOW this was mentioned by Bob (possibly Larry, but I recall it being Bob) at one of the early BotCons, I think '98, but I can't recall with enough accuracy to reference a specific year. Anyone else remember this tidbit? --[[User:Destrongerlupus|Destrongerlupus]] 15:33, 1 May 2013 (EDT)

== MP Paint Problems ==

So I've noticed with my MP Primal that its surprisingly easy to scratch the paint off. I'm not sure if this is a wide spread problem, but I think its worth mentioning.

User talk:ItsWalky

2017-03-02T20:09:02Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* I require some assistance. */ new section

{{preview bastard}}

--I'm deeply sorry

[[User talk:ItsWalky/2006|2006 Archives]]

[[User talk:ItsWalky/2007|2007 Archives]]

[[User talk:ItsWalky/2008|2008 Archives]]

[[User talk:ItsWalky/2009|2009 Archives]]

==Paxs ship==

Can I ask what splash page you're on about? The one of him exiting the ship doesn't even show his feet? Also, the shadow clearly shows he's below the ship.
: The very next page. He's standing on top of the ship. Same reason everyone's having to look straight up in the air instead of, you know, directly in front of them. He's just standing on top of the dang ship. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:01, 6 January 2014 (EST)

==Things to say to you==
[[Image:Ttoc.GIF|right|thumb|We approve this message.]]

Just some thing I've been wanting to say to David...

First off, you're a monumental asshole. You have an ego the size of a small planet and it's irritating watching you act like an important SOB when you're basically just a nobody.

Second, your webcomics aren't funny. They're boring tripe that makes Penny Arcade look good(and believe me, Penny Arcade is garbage). Cyanide and Happiness is a funny webcomic, yours is not. Your "jokes" are painful, about like watching Michael Richards yell the n-word as a routine. You don't draw a comic, you draw an opinionated blog. I'm not sure which name suits your crap better, "ShitPacked" or "ShortDicked".

Your liberalism and your love of Indiana get on my nerves. You jab at Mallard Filmore? Yeah, one shitty comic making fun of another shitty comic. Or are you just pissed that his gets in newspapers while you're JUST a webcomic? As to Indiana, I live here, and if it were up to me, the state would be walled off and none of the freaks living there allowed to interact with the rest of the planet. The state is about 3 decades behind the times. But something tells me even you know this otherwise you'd still live here. I sure as hell do not live here by choice and as soon as I can, I'm moving far away from this joke of a state.

And your brand loyalty is typical fandom crap. You have Aaron Archer's rod so far down your throat it's unreal. And Aryan fucktard Michael Bay's rod has apparently joined it. I'd say soemthing abotu Don Murphy but he was born without one. Actually, I can say something- he's Kevin "unfunny asshole" Smith with more body fat. Hasbro didn't give the film to a competent director, just a cheap one. And neither Speilberg or ILM have done anything useful in years. Give WETA, or even Tom Savini a chance and we wouldn't be getting Bionicle bots. You're afraid to not like a Hasbro product. No wonder they don't have to go out of the way to please the "fans"- you'll accept it no matter what. But hey, you personally have been sucking off incompetent British bonehead Simon Furman and his shitty stories for years. There are no gods in Transformers. Unicron was built by a monkey, little man. Furman is dog shit.

And go figure this TF wiki is a joke full of misinformation, insults or outright lies- you're a mod here. You're never right. You're more of an incorrect pompous jerkoff than Defunct is. Right, ban me from editing, as if it would somehow matter, any info you don't agree with is pulled. You only have friends because people feel sorry for you. Me, I have no need. People are a commodity to be used and their wants only get in the way of what I'm out for. Use them and drop them.

Who am I? Go look who added a note about you on Encyclopedia Dramatica's Allspark page if you're not too lazy. As well as past AS, Kalidor, FIRRIB and Hooks entries(the hooks entry especially true). Oh, and just info on white people in general and that idiotic Nintendo Wii. I'm not making it that easy for you.
: Is it my birthday? This stuff ''feeds'' me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
: Duuuuude. Walky may be a dick, but I still ''like'' him for some inexplicable reason. You, on the other hand, are just one sore drama queen.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 17:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: This is some of the most funny stuff I've seen in a while. Comedy PLATINUM. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Bwa ha ha ha ha. Priceless. I think someone needs to get off the internets for a few minutes. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 02:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: Wait, you mean I didn't get drunk and write this? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 05:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

: I wish lame puns happened to me. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 20:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Why do I get the feeling that guy has been permanently banned?[[User:Florky Man|Mr. Florky]] 15:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow, an Encyclopedia Dramatica troll. No need to be so harsh on Walky. I, too, like the Baybots, and, I happen to like Bionicle. Also, his Webcomic is one of my favorites. So, if you have nothing nice to say, never ever EVER come back here.--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 16:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

:Woah dude calm down. Don't cuss too much either. Don't get me wrong though, Itswalky can be quite a jerk at times. Itswalky is not a dick, though. He just becomes somewhat of a control freak at times. But he's still somewhat "likeable". --[[User:TheHappyTruckShunter|TheHappyTruckShunter]] ([[User talk:TheHappyTruckShunter|talk]]) 15:56, 25 August 2014 (EDT)

==BANNED==

What the hell did I do to warrant a ban, exactly? As far as I'm aware, I don't even think I broke any rules, and if I did, an official warning would be appropriate. I received no such warning. I was not here for trolling and you know that - you use that bullshit excuse to get people to ignore arguments you can't handle. But you, personally, who made this decision, know I'm not a troll.

This is fucking low. I had little enough respect for you down to your ranting against the fanbase, Willis, but this is a whole new level of buggery. If you're going to use your comic to rant against and discredit people you don't like, the least you can do is suck it up when people rant at you back, and not act like a control-freak child.

I really don't think you're aware of your own actions anymore.
*Do the words [[Wikipedia:WP:NPA|no personal attacks]] mean anything to you? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:: Do the words "warning before ban" mean anything to you? Rulemongering doesn't justify a decision anyway, since Walky is one of the people making the rules. There were plenty of personal attacks leveled at me, but I did not report them officially.

::I really find it hard to believe that you think it's completely on a rational level of discourse to claim that the comic strip I draw is about child pornography. If I'm not mistaken about your identity, you've been banned from almost every single Transformers web board you've had an acquaintance with, and I'm only doing this place a favor by getting rid of you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::: That's not an excuse. I will openly admit I HAVE been banned from several forums, but only because I repeatedly opposed the staff on each and every one of them; and with good cause, they all have roughly the same problem. People bully others either into liking the movie or to agree with the kind of views you promote - and since nobody can directly attack or discredit anyone, these people(and you are) are left to their methods.
::: For your current decision to be validated, the admins of those boards, boards which are influenced in turn by your anti-fan attitude, would have to be near 100% correct in their decisions, and those decisions would have to occur within a context that would map exactly onto here. Any rational moderator does not base their decisions so much off performance on other boards, especially when it's not even a messageboard they're operating. Two different media. I have openly said I despise all active Transformers boards for their level of authoritarianism, yet level of tolerance towards the pushing of certain viewpoints.

::: Not to mention that you're still operating under the fallacy of Appeal to Majority - that alone means I shouldn't really even have to counter you.

::: And don't even use the "CHILD PORNOGRAPHY" thing as an excuse. Again, any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban, I personally reversed that edit even though it was obviously intended to be a joke as anyone reading this knows what pile'o'bile already is. You have no justification for what you did, but your ego is too big to realise you can actually do wrong with your power. You'll never admit it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some part of you is pissed that I defeated some of your ramblings, whether they were directly written by you or encouraged by you, it's still the kind of guff you normally blew, and I managed to defeat it. You, and the mods of the big sites will always have your ban buttons - but you will NEVER be able to justify your actions to me. That's how I know that I'm in the right, at least in situations like this - solidly backed justification is almost always absent.
:::: Personal attacks + deleting comments in response to you = banno --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
:::: P.S. Sign your posts. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

::::: I have never intentionally deleted comments in response to me. I just moved one recently as it was in the middle of a paragraph of text. Not to mention that happened after you banned my original IP. Personal attacks alone are not grounds enough for a ban, especially when you're doing an awful, awful lot to be mercilessly torn into.
Need I point out that once again, you are unable to defend yourself properly? When does the "You're insane?" come? Ganging up of all your little friends since a majority always means you're right?
Do you even realise what a fascist shithead you sound like? Just because you're an admin of a place doesn't give you a free pass to be a dick with it. There's a difference between what you can do and what you should do that you don't seem to have learned yet. [[User:67.159.44.88|67.159.44.88]]

: YOU BAN PEOPLE BECAUSE ****YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE

TRUTH****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111twelve FUCKING FASCIST PIGCOP NAZI WIKIPEDO '''ASSHOLE''' [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:: My gosh, now that I have seen someone mock the notion, it MUST be untrue. Please, where can I learn these 1337 debating skills?

:::Dude, I've been banned from twice as many forums as you, guaranfuckingteed, but they still let me post here because I'm not as goddamn retarded as you are. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::: And can you demonstrate exactly how I'm more retarded than you? Or are you just, Walky style, dropping weighted terms to discredit someone's point of view without even trying?

:::::1. Hoop doesn't delete other people's comments on talk pages. 2. He actually signs his posts, which you've been asked to do many times, but haven't caught on. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::: I didn't delete anything. If I did, it was an accident because someone posted right in the middle of text it wasn't meant to be in the middle of. Not signing my posts doesn't make me retarded since it's blatant when I'm saying something. --[[User:67.159.44.88]]

Actually - come to think of it, you make fun of the idea that anyone running a site can be Nazi, yet you still mention you got banned from many forums. Does that perhaps mean that you genuinely got banned for being an asshole and not opposing the staff/local clique like I did?

:''any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban''
:Not true, some things are auto-ban. I don't think you ''did'' any of them, but I'm just saying.
:Dude- you got an expedited ban because you showed no signs of contrition, argued every point, used personal insults, refused to sign your posts even when '''repeatedly asked to''' (I had to go back into history and dig out which incoherent chunks of text where yours, because the posts weren't hierarchied properly so the debate was really hard to follow. This is why signin posts is important dumbfuck.)
:And ultimately you got banned because you were making a major nuisance of yourself in ''without'' any correlating '''contribution''' to justify keeping you around. You're a negative. You edited 3 articles- Fandom, Shortpacking and Ruined Forever- and ''all' of those edits got reverted because they either flames or crappy jokes that make the articles ''worse''. Even if I were to (generously) believe you didn't intend to start a fight, you picked the 3 flamebaitiest articles you could find and masturbated across them. ''Allah forfend'' you should write an ''episode summary'' or something.
:Unrelated- Walky can Talk:Fandom be semi-protected instead of full? Loserbot isn't registered. -[[User:Derik|Derik]]01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

==On an unrelated note: Thank you.==
I know this is an odd place to say it, but I figured if I only said it once, it wouldn't be a bother so here goes: Thank You. Shortpacked is hilarious, and when not laughing, I'm agreeing with alot of the statements the main character makes. (and feeling like I was the only one who noticed some of them, like the one about General Discussions.) I also noticed your a Hot Shot fan, which is also awesome. I also noticed its due to the efforts of you and other people here that the move was made from Wikia to Tfwiki, which was a good idea so I also want to say a long overdue thank you for doing that as well, and finally: thanks for doing what you can for this site, because without this site, I'd be out of the loops on Club Exclusive things, and other Misc. Transformers related content. I go here frequently for information (or lolz) and I'm quite sure not only me but many others are grateful to you and all others who help contribute to this place.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
:Thanks, and we do our best! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:08, 4 January 2010 (EST)
I love it too. Ive been going through the archives and im up to the part where amber gets a bit of a makeover and ive loved every second of it --[[User:Mrgalvaprime|Mrgalvaprime]] 17:25, 14 January 2012 (EST)
only webcomic I read daily.--
[[User:Mojotron|Mojotron]]

==Tulsa, Oklahoma==
Sorry to bother you (I tried to avoid saying something again sense I already did the 'Thank you' earlier, but I HAD to ask about this). Had nothing better to do so I've been reading shortpacked's full archive beginning to end today. (Well I'm currently on July 6 2009 to be fair) and I noticed something that I just HAD to ask about. I've noticed once you mentioned Oklahoma. I ignored it the first time but then later you said "Tulsa". Now you got me curious, because I live in Tulsa and thus wondered what made you decide to choose to mention here of all places, sense basically nothing ever happens here. (Aside from the occasional Convention and the recent BOK center. Granted I may be moving to Florida in a few years..I really hope so. Been here my whole life and its boring) Just thought I'd ask, before curiosity drove me nuts. Keep up the good work on the comic, peace.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

EDIT: haha on second thought..maybe I should've said this at Walkypedia..or do you even go there? (I'd assume you do.) Oh well, my mistake I guess. Hope you'll still answer my question regardless. lol--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

== WfC Starscream ==

You said: "We revert that back to Starscream every time you change it for a reason."
:Well that's just great since that is my first contribution to that page. And the picture itself says Skywarp so I was just making both consistent. I'll change the pic to Starscream as well.--[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 11:22, 14 January 2010 (EST)
:: Ah, sorry. Got you confused with Blackout, who was also changing it to Skywarp. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:28, 14 January 2010 (EST)
::: No prob. Just re-uploaded the image with starscream in the name rather than skywarp. The old one now has the delete tag. Thanks. --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 11:33, 14 January 2010 (EST)

== Quick Report ==

More vandalism, on Nekomimi A/B, section animated..I think? caption didn't seem right..
I heard you're supposed to report to an Admin, right?
-[[User:SlamBolt|Danny LeFox]] 23:37, 20 January 2010 (EST)
: The caption is okay. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 21 January 2010 (EST)

== Independent Wikis ==
Hello Walky. This is Archaic, webmaster of Pokémon fansite Bulbagarden, and its associated wiki Bulbapedia. I sent you an email about 2 weeks ago (to the address linked on both your webcomics) regarding an idea I've recently been playing around with of a co-operative of independent wikis. I understand that you've been rather busy recently, so I just wanted to check if you had received that email or not, and if you might be interested in contributing your thoughts to the matter? --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 20:24, 25 January 2010 (EST)
: I did receive it! I'm sorry for not answering swiftly. Our answer depends on how much interaction you are looking for. Part of the appeal of leaving Wikia was breaking free of the mandatory link chain to "related wikis" that they put at the bottom of our frontpage. Our frontpage is now our own. That's not something I think we're interested in. We are, though, all in favor of people starting up their own wikis instead of depending on those lying Wikia assmongers. (to coin a phrase) But, I can't speak for the people here who help maintain this wiki and how much they would be willing to lend a hand. So, uh, the answer to your question at the moment is: "I don't know?" Um. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:47, 25 January 2010 (EST)
::Heh, no worries. We're all fairly busy at this time of year. For now, we're going full steam ahead with a limited version of this idea, focusing specifically on wikis linked to Nintendo franchises, which we're likely to launch within a couple of weeks. Perhaps it might be easiest if I'm able to show you what we're doing there? While we're doing quite a bit of integration between the partner wikis for this limited network, I'd imagine that any more general grouping of independent wikis would have to be a lot less so, if only for logistical reasons. As I mentioned in the email, it's all fairly up in the air right now. A lot of brainstorming, but not a lot of actual action at this point. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 15:15, 26 January 2010 (EST)
:::If I may weigh in... basically, while I wager most (if not all) of us are individually supportive of any wikis that break free of Wikia, when it comes to linking on this wiki we generally only stick to links that add information to our articles, such as TFU.info, Marvel Universe TF profiles, Wookieepedia and GI Joe sites for Star Wars and GI Joe crossovers, etc. So unless there's some crossover connection between Pokemon and TF that we missed, I don't see that we can help, because we don't have anything that would need a link to your wiki. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:35, 26 January 2010 (EST)
::::What, not even with that page you have on Pokéformers? ;) Seriously though, I think you might have misunderstood what I was suggesting. I'm not looking at a 2-way affiliation or link here. Instead, what I've been investigating is much closer to what Walky has in Blank Label Comics for his webcomics. An alliance of wikis united by a common purpose. Exactly how far one would take that is the real question. I certainly wouldn't expect a link to every wiki in such a network on the front page of any wiki in it. As you've rightly pointed out, you value the independence you've regained after breaking from Wikia, and any such network would have to be very careful to maintain that for all sites while still offering something meaningful. *shrugs* Like I said, all very much pie-in-the-sky kind of vague ideas right now, just exploring possibilities. --[[User:Archaic|Archaic]] 20:47, 26 January 2010 (EST)

:::::I don't know if you've heard, but wikia has decided to make a change (mandatorily!) that is 100 times worse than what drove you guys to a new server. I am interested in finding info on how you guys actually performed your move, and what would need to be done before, during, and after to make it work. If you could give me even a link (so that I can show others), that would be hugely helpful.
:::::If you could message me on my wikia talk page (yes, I know), that would be most appreciated. Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 10:18, 28 September 2010 (EDT)

==Yeaaaaaaaah==
:: ''Hey, were you the [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_5&diff=414380&oldid=413827 guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason], and so then he [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/593224.html?thread=14980936#t14980936 quit this wiki] because he was treated like shit? You don't get a vote. Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin' river. (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)''
Yes because he was considering the entry was as bare and snarky as possible (You're hardly the soul of discretion all the time yourself sir) . And remarkably, being from a good distance across the planet, I don't know where everything is situated on that side of the world so the assumption of he ran into a river instead of the atlantic ocean, while my own fault I'll admit, is fairly understandable. But if I'm not aloud to voice my opinion cause a guy you don't know told you something about another guy you don't know, then tell me now please, save me trying to vote on something again. (I'm being completely serious by the way, if that's the case, I want to know). All the best. [[User:Eire]] 01.33 Feb 09 2010 (UTC)
::: When your opinion is "the guy who created this page is a schmuck," then you're probably going to get some flak for said opinion. It's not like the page was horribly put together. It was just abbreviated and snarky. It wasn't called for. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:52, 8 February 2010 (EST)

== Guess who's back..... ==

[[User:Masterman666]]
--[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:45, 11 February 2010 (EST)
: Remind me who he is, again? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:54, 11 February 2010 (EST)
::[[User:Masterman555]]. Banned for flaming and using a sockpuppet. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:01, 11 February 2010 (EST)
:::Then bye-bye, then! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:15, 11 February 2010 (EST)

== Breakaway image caption ==

Isn't Topspin the one with no personality? (Or was it a ref to Breakaway being Mister Likes-Everyone-Nice-Guy?) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:13, 11 February 2010 (EST)
: Topspin doesn't like being used, and ripped Kickback's spark out of him in angry fury. That's more than Breakaway ever emoted. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:16, 11 February 2010 (EST)
::Plus, his utter devotion to Alpha Trion was also more characterization than Breakaway got. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:19, 11 February 2010 (EST)
:::Fair enough... it's just that since Topspin was always the one with the "No personality" cracks in his page (and the one who's profile specifically says he's had his personality and will crushed out) it seemed potentially out of place, so I figured I'd ask.
:::(Personally I admit I wouldn't claim Breakaway (who did a fair bit of pep-talking everyone) has no personality any more than Heatwave, who's equally easy-going, friendly, and optimistic, can be said to not have one, but I was more checking for possible mistakes than taste...) --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:47, 11 February 2010 (EST)

== RE: Divebomb ==
Hup, my bad. Thanks for catching that! [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 11:06, 22 February 2010 (EST)

== Red Alert image ==
Thanks for color correcting it, looks much better. My desktop bit the dust last week, and my netbook chokes on photoshop. [[User:Kookaburra|Kookaburra]] 01:22, 30 March 2010 (EDT)

==Mainpage logos==
I'm shocked you haven't put up BC Breakdown yet. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:34, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
:I just put up *a* Breakdown. Really, I'd prefer to stick to art rather than toy images. Spark was an adrenaline rush exception. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:34, 8 April 2010 (EDT)

== I can't think of a suitable title to put here right now..... ==

[[Special:Log/block&page=User:Jeysie|This seems rather uncalled for.]]

Thank you for your attention. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:38, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
: Maybe you should have brought it up during the twenty-four hours in which she was banned, and not like a few minutes before it expired. And it was certainly called for, considering the disrespect she was showing other users. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:15, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
::You called her a bitch. Was that not disrespectful as well? - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:43, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
:::I think that was just me making an obvious point about her having talk page conversations ''entirely about other posters''. As usual, I make my points through sarcasm. Jeysie wasn't being sarcastic or trying to illustrate a greater point when she told me to stop "mouthing off." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:21, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
:::I'm not upset about being banned. What I am upset about is that the reason it's so irritating trying to have a conversation with you is that you are constantly responding to people trying to make reasonable points with mocking rude responses, often ones that illustrate that the point was missed. So, I don't like ''your'' disrespectful attitude any more than you like mine.
:::Considering you actually make good points on the few occasions you turn off the mocking attitude and take the time to understand the points being made, it'd make dealing with you a whole lot less frustrating if you'd keep the attitude turned off all the time. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 16:57, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
::::Ahahaha Jeysie is telling me to stop having a mocking attitude! I will mark that on my Jeysie-is-condescending calendar OH WAIT THERE IS NO ROOM --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:21, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::Can we stop this? Both of you? You're both highly devoted editors to this wiki and we don't need a long lasting feud. Pretty Please? --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 17:28, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::The kids don't like it when mommy and daddy fight.... --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:36, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::Seconded. This is time and energy better spent on working on articles, and I've seen enough from both of you to know that it would benefit the wiki greatly if you did that. -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 17:40, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::If Walky drops the attitude problem, there won't ''be'' a feud, because I'll have nothing to comment on to him, which will make me very happy.
:::::::The only reason I say anything at all is because I'm tired of his attitude always making trying to discuss something on the wiki a stressful chore instead of something productive. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:44, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
::::::::This is silly. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:48, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Response to Walky: Maybe you're not aware, but I am on a different continent than you are. Different continent = different time zone = inability to respond at the same time as you Americans. And don't even TRY to shift the blame. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 05:07, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

==New bot==
Can I get a bot tag for [[User:DNAVI]] please? abates said you were the man for the job. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 02:25, 15 April 2010 (EDT)

== Regarding TG Studios and the guy you banned ==

[[Talk:TG Studios|You may want to check this out.]] --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:33, 29 April 2010 (EDT)

Can you make Timelines sharkticon on wirte and put on a image ?

== Squiggles! ==

If by "squiggles", you mean "Japanese", toss me a copy of that translation, eh, my fine fellow? For the annotations, don'tcha know! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:30, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
: In the filecard for Primal Major and Alpha Supreme, Maggie translated the two non-English characters at the end of it, which mean "Shanghai." That's all she's done (per my specific request), so I don't have anything else to tell you. :) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:35, 5 July 2010 (EDT)
::Ahh, that's still cool! I wouldn't have figured it out on my own! I have spotted at least one or two other bits of Japanese in there and was going to pester Spengler about them anyway. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:40, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

== King Starscream's bounty ==

So, do I get it if I turn myself in? - [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 12:55, 2 August 2010 (EDT)

== Look! ==

You suck! Along with most of the other administartors on this wiki. I can't believe you treat people the way you do. I've been watching for a while, and I will tell you, that you're just an asshole! Why don't you grow up, and quit being a dick to everyone! Banning people for ridiculous reasons! Telling people their work is shit! In fact, I created this account just to confront you! GROW UP AND QUIT BEING A DICK! YOU"RE AN ASSHOLE! {{unsigned|Generations123|17:32, 11 August 2010 (EDT)}}
:The irony is staggering. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:40, 11 August 2010 (EDT)
:: I think this guy deserves a Shortpacked! comic in his honor.--[[Special:Contributions/65.11.250.113|65.11.250.113]] 19:26, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

== My sandboxes ==

Hiya David, I was wondering if you will take a look at my improved Primes sandbox (not that I'm suggesting to retitle the article or anything, it's just the whim of my user space). I hadn't realized Marvel never uses the number 13, as it's been years since I read "Legacy of Unicron" or "Primal Scream", one takes these things for granted now. Also, regarding Alpha Trion, I finally have a response again to yesterday's chat, I feel we can compromise on this: the only thing bugging people about him being a multiversal singularity is SG. As you suggested, we should wait: we should wait to see if Forest or Hasbro explain his actions in that continuity or if multiversal singularities don't apply to mirrorverses like SG and that Alpha is truely unique from the original Prime who's more likely than not the one from G1/RID/UT/TA/ROTF/WFC. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:08, 12 August 2010 (EDT)

== Scan request ==

Since I can't find my copy of it at the minute, and since I know you had it out recent to scan that image of Rodimus Prime that's on the main page at the moment, might I trouble you to scan the panel from the third issue of the Marvel movie adaptation that features Hot Rod with a handful of energon sticks? On Junkion, when he's trying the universal greeting. Thanks! - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 04:59, 30 September 2010 (EDT)

== Ultra Magnus ==

I think we need to rewrite the Dreamwave section. It's kind of old TFwiki there with the super-condensed summary and lack of links to individual issues. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:04, 30 September 2010 (EDT)

== Daleks ==

Listen, if you want behind the scenes proof, When the Daleks first appeared in Doctor Who, they were called Daleks, Davros calling the casing Mark 3 Travel Machine never happed until the time of the Forth Doctor. The information on the page is WRONG.
[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:19, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Oh, and by the way, Davros if a Doctor Who character. Detour is giving us information from fiction too. The comment is wrong.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:22, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

== Something that might be of interest to the TFWiki... ==

I think you'll find [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/original-g1-scripts-designs-other-items-on-heritage-auction/20162/ this] to be rather interesting, as it may contain certain materials that would be decent additions to this Wiki. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:39, 8 November 2010 (EST)
: Thanks. I took some screencaps where I could. We should tell [[Jim Sorenson]] these exist and maybe he has a million dollars. (Or maybe just a hundred. Not many bids on these, and who the hell even knows this auction site exists?) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:33, 8 November 2010 (EST)
::That site had some of the live-action movie props being auctioned either last year or earlier this year, IIRC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:45, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Should I/we let him know in his [[User talk:Jimsorenson|User Talk page]] about this? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 14:09, 9 November 2010 (EST)

==Question & request==
How come we should keep "Junkion trader"? I wouldn't know of a source that makes it a canon designation and before the article even had the noname-nickname template. So, why keep a made-up name that's no longer needed?
: Also, if you have ''The Complet Ark'', could you add an image of adult Chip Chase to his article? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:15, 14 November 2010 (EST)
:: Isn't "Junkion trader" from a magazine or something? I don't think we made it up. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:43, 14 November 2010 (EST)
:::I can't say anything about magazines (though I'd wonder which magazine would bother to mention such an obscure "character"), but mostly, Derik, who made the article, had it marked as "nickname" from the start and left a reason for naming Junkion 1 "Junkion trader" on the Omniverse talk page. Altogether, I think it's not canon in any capacity. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:49, 14 November 2010 (EST)
::::*clenches fist* ''Derik''!! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:50, 14 November 2010 (EST)

==Another request (Junkion related)==
I figure that before I completely lose my sight looking for Junkion models in a sea of red & random, I should ensure someone will move the Junkion articles (currently 3) I've been writing to their proper location. Would you be so kind? If the articles aren't clear enough on which model/character is described, there's a small extra description in the mainpic temapltes (that I just figured out don't show up on the actual page). Pretty please? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:40, 17 November 2010 (EST)
: I don't own the Complete Ark, so it will have to wait for someone to divulge that information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:49, 17 November 2010 (EST)
:: :( Well, I guess I could try pestering Sorenson about it. Sorry for bothering you. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:55, 17 November 2010 (EST)
::: I have the Complete Ark, but I'm finding your descriptions a little vague. I think I'd need screen shots or comic panels or whatever to work out who you're talking about. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 17:06, 17 November 2010 (EST)
::::As I said, the mainpic template contains a "screenshot description" that should make it possible to track who is who. Otherwise, [[:Image:TFTM Junkions.JPG|the three most in front in order are: kisser, double-eye and mouthplate]]. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:09, 17 November 2010 (EST)

== Talk:Bulkhead (Prime) ==

But every other kind of comment is allowed including swearing. The whole point of discussion pages is to discuss despite whether you think it's a waste. If it was in the wrong place then you should have said. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 09:46, 29 November 2010 (EST)
: "He looks kind of purple when he's under certain lighting" is not something that's worth discussing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:43, 29 November 2010 (EST)
Or is it? [[User talk:Top Shots]]

== This might silence those who question the WFC/Exodus/Prime continuity ==

We finally have [http://www.unicron.com/news_item/2462/ official word] straight from the mouth of Hasbro itself that War for Cybertron, Exodus, and Prime are indeed in the same aligned continuity. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:16, 8 December 2010 (EST)
:So... exactly what we had BEFORE. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:24, 8 December 2010 (EST)
::Yeah, but, now we can point nonbelievers to the words directly, instead of them having to just take our word for it. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 16:33, 8 December 2010 (EST)
:::So... exactly what we had BEFORE. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:39, 8 December 2010 (EST)
:::On this very wiki: [[Hasbro_Q%26A/September_2010:_Answers]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:06, 8 December 2010 (EST)

== I Am Sorry ==

Hey look, I am here to apologize for the crap I have been saying. I was acting like a jerk for a while to you and It has really been haunting me recently. I know I need to work on my grammer, and I actually shouldn't posting anything since I am only in my second year in High School, and to be honest, I have only been a fan of TF for 9 years. I have really been a jerk recently and I just want to have a clean start now. I hope you understand. I am sorry, in other words, for all the crap I put you and this sight through.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 14:02, 22 December 2010 (EST)

== Walky..... ==
Care to tell me why you have blocked my IP? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 06:11, 23 January 2011 (EST)
:ItsWalky blocked your IP because of that Goldbug (IDW) toy deal of a few days ago. He may not have realized you were a regular contributor, but regardless, you should've started a third/fourth debate rather than declare the first two void because their results don't strike with your view on "reality". [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 06:20, 23 January 2011 (EST)
:: I blocked the anonymous IP who got into the edit war over removing Goldbug's toy info, which was just fucking obnoxious. If that was you, then whoops. Don't be a dickwad. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:16, 23 January 2011 (EST)

== You have Lugnut? ==

I've heard about you reviewing him, did you obtain him at a Brick & Mortar store like Walmart or Target? If so, which one (so the hunt may go on). Or was it through eBay/"specialty" store, or overseas? Moreso I'm wondering if the "not yet released" tag should still be applied to the Hasbro version on [[Lugnut (TF 2010)|his page]]. [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 23:28, 11 February 2011 (EST)
: I got him from Big Bad Toy Store. He has been seen in stores, but like many other toys these days, he's having trouble hitting saturation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:45, 12 February 2011 (EST)

==Aw look==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/David_Willis_(cartoonist)_(2nd_nomination) Your Wikipedia page is up for deletion].

-Blackout-
:Yeah, a nomination you started. Big effing whup. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:04, 9 March 2011 (EST)
::Which is why it got a SpeedyKeep and the deletion tag is already gone. Nice try. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:52, 9 March 2011 (EST)

== Generations Scourge ==

Ohhh, yes, I see now. I didn't realise that his head could extend so far up. I thought it was just the normal extension for his robot mode. Bit of a pain to push back down, though...

Anyway, I apologise.

[[Special:Contributions/24.143.42.51|24.143.42.51]] 16:40, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

== Thanks! ==

Thank you for backing me up on the bolded-comma issue. I knew all those things people said about you couldn't be true! [[User:JW|JW]] 16:24, 21 April 2011 (EDT)

Thank for letting me know about the talk page deal. [[User:Top Shots]]

==A week?==
Don't you think that's a bit long for a regular editor to be banned? Far as I can tell, he didn't even get a warning. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:58, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
: It's not his first week-long ban. And he's been warned (and banned) about this behavior before. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:07, 29 April 2011 (EDT)
::Don't you think that's a bit short since that's about the only thing he does? --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 13:11, 29 April 2011 (EDT)

==Iacon Archives==
Looking through the history of "Laserbeak (Cybertron)" and "Revelations Part 3", I see you were the one who called the archives the 'Iacon Archives'. Where did you get this name from, as it is not in the comics? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:45, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
: The archives appeared to be in Iacon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:17, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
:: Could you elaborate on "appeared"? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 03:02, 21 May 2011 (EDT)
::: Everything in the story happened in Iacon. Or under Iacon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:43, 21 May 2011 (EDT)
:::: Not really, since Vector Prime and co. first hang out at Kalis and Kaon also gets namedropped at some point. So... I guess that means the Archives' location can't be pinpointend any better than "somewhere on Cybertron". Thanks for helping me! [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:14, 21 May 2011 (EDT)

==New User==
There I did everything you said also I don't know how to use user pages so I hope i'm doing this right.[[User:Chubzhac|Chubzhac]] 23:35, 20 May 2011 (EDT)

==External Links==
Is it ok to use external links for titles such as ''Star Trek: Leonard McCoy, Frontier Doctor''? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 00:15, 31 May 2011 (EDT)
: In what context? I'd really rather prefer most external links remain in the External links section. I kinda hate when I click on a link in the body of an article, thinking there'll be something relevant on this site, only to be taken elsewhere. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:16, 31 May 2011 (EDT)
::That's a little contradictory since there are external links all over this site that isn't in the External Links section. So what specifically don't you like about it? Being misled into thinking you're going onto Lindsey Lohan's Wikipedia article, but instead go to Mandy Moore's? (or something like that) What I meant exactly was that in almost every issue's page there's an Advertisment section showing what else is from the same publisher (that's why I used ''Star Trek'' as an example). So could some of those advertisments have an external link to another wiki site that would specialise (or have more insight) in that particular title. I hope that was a little more straight foward and maybe a little easier to understand. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 13:16, 1 July 2011 (EDT)

== Probation appeal ==

So, the incident that led to my probation was proposing that [[Dead End (Animated)]] move to "Dead End (Timelines)" on the basis that that was his franchise-of-origin. I brought the issue up on the Allspark's "Major Wiki work" thread because I had no idea why it was reverted and I couldn't talk about it here (because of the probation thing). [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=51208&view=findpost&p=1825571 The conclusion seemed to be] that I was ''technically'' correct, but the Wiki just didn't want to do it that way.
{{quote|The idea of moving the BotCon-exclusive Animated characters to a "Timelines" disambig is just one of those occasional instances where the instruction to "[[Help:Ignore all standards|ignore all standards]]" comes into play. Sometimes, it's just easier, more aesthetically pleasing, or just feels RIGHT to do things a certain way that may not be the way everything else is done.|[[Chris McFeely]]}}
I went about everything the right way, as far as I know. I put one move proposal tag on one page so it could be talked about. I gave a technically correct reason, "Franchise of origin. Like [[Cop-Tur (G1)|Cop-Tur (Timelines)]]". I do my best to remember to not do what I have been hollered at for doing in the past, but seriously, I had no way of knowing I was stepping into an instance of "ignore all standards". All you really had to do was revert my one move proposal with a big "We are ignoring all standards you moron!" in the change log. You would have felt better for hollering at me and I would have been clued in on what was going on and that would have been the end of it. So, can I please have my probation lifted? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:59, 12 June 2011 (EDT)

==When the past comes to haunt you==
[[Vector Sigma Chamber]] - I have no clue how it could be written so that it's significantly different from the Vector Sigma page. You've stated you believe it could be an article with its own worth. If you have time, would you please give the page its long needed update? 
Meanwhile, I have never been able to track down the source that the ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'' is Shockwave's underwater base in the Marvel comics. You and Derik talked about the source being one of the letters pages, but would you have any idea which issue's letters page? 
As an aside, [[TFWiki.net 2011 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries|this page]] is locked, which would be all fine and stuff if not for the handful of article links that can not be fixed anymore. Could you please remove all of them? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:32, 15 June 2011 (EDT)

== New and ticked off ==

I'm new here. I have taken your suggestions into account, but there is one thing that still bothers me: no one else wants to help me. Can you lend a hand? --[[User:Ibreakthingz|The Breaker]] 19:24, 15 June 2011 (EDT)
:Nope - Random IP number
::What do you need help with? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:54, 20 June 2011 (EDT)
Let me tell you, I am SUPER excited to help the guy who starts off by telling me he's ticked off. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:03, 20 June 2011 (EDT)

== Oh man, sorry ==
I don't see any comments, only some guy asking about how the info and description of Cybertron should be. Sorry about the confusion. I actually don't think that I ever reverted it back O.o I don't remember that, I must have clicked on some wrong place or something. Again, sorry fellow Transformer-fan :) [[User:Luka1184|Luka1184]] 11:15, 29 June 2011 (EDT)

== Dark of the Moon: Ship? ==

What exactly did they use to explore the moon then? Just wondering, thanks. [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 02:22, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
: The novelization calls the ship Ratchet and Optimus Prime take to the moon the "Atlax X," a human-built craft. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:45, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
:Whoops, what I meant to say was what did Optimus and Ratchet use to recover the comatose (boy I love that word after seeing it on Tfwiki) body of Sentinel? [[User:Autow1ngz|Autow1ngz]] 03:00, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
::No, in the finished film, they ''do'' use the Xantium to go to the moon. Prime announces in a voiceover at the beginning of the scene, "Xantium approaching Tranquility base". - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:42, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
:::It feels weird, then, that they only really introduce the ship much later in the movie.--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:34, 5 July 2011 (EDT)
::::Quite agreed. Seems fairly obvious that it was originally going to be a human-built endeavour (it's the "Ares V" in the comic), but then someone said "Why do they need a human rocket if our script already features a pre-existing Autobot spaceship as a plot point?", and it got shoved in earlier without any real reworking of the later intro scene. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:38, 5 July 2011 (EDT)

== Evac (Prime) ==

At SDCC announced two new figures for a character called Evac, from the Prime franchise, should we wait until he makes an appearance in the show to create his own article? --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 20:58, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
:Remember, one doesn't have to appear in the show to get a toy. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:03, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
::I could have sworn that Evac was supposed to be a character for the new Transformers ride...[[Special:Contributions/98.209.73.178|98.209.73.178]] 21:28, 23 July 2011 (EDT)
:::He's not from Prime, correct. He's a new character created for the movie-based Transformers ride at Universal. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:23, 23 July 2011 (EDT)

== I need to tell you something. ==

Hi. There's something that I've been feeling a bit guilty about for a long time. You see, on a different account (which I will reveal the name of after you respond to make sure there are no hard feelings) I was quite rude. I was irrational, confused and upset. Afterwards, I left this site in guilt, and ashamed because I wasn't thinking rationally a few times while on my account. Do you think you can maybe accept my apology for my actions, because I feel like a horrible person for the silly things I brought up and got into. Would you please accept my apology? If you can't, well, that's okay too. If you don't get this, well, I just wanted to say I'm sorry for being such a horrible person on such a good website. :(
[[Special:Contributions/74.82.64.16|74.82.64.16]] 15:27, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

== Guilt ==

Sorry, I was thinking about my previous heading "I need to tell you something" and I reliezed that although I ment it in a kind way, I thought it's possible that you could believe that to mean that I had some cruel things to say, which I did not. The message is still the same though! If it means anything, I would like to say you can be sure nothing like that could happen again with me.
[[Special:Contributions/74.82.64.17|74.82.64.17]] 16:05, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
: I don't know who you are, but I guess we're all right. It's hard to refuse an apology from an anonymous dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:12, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

== Harrison Ford ==

Was it rude? Horrifying even? Why did you undo my edit? An external reference isn't to much to ask for. Is it? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 19:39, 13 October 2011 (EDT)
: I addressed this on the talk page. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:55, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

== Files on user pages ==

I removed the images from my user page because of fair use, but nobody had removed them in the meantime because of this. So did I do right by taking them off or can I put them back? -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 19:46, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
: I don't really understand what you're asking. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:35, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
::Let's try this again. On another wiki I added a pic to [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Anythingspossibleforapossible&oldid=39022 my user page] and it was [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Anythingspossibleforapossible&action=history removed]. [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Thailog#Using files on your own user page This is the reply I got when I inquired further]. If you still don't understand I'll just put them back. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 18:11, 24 October 2011 (EDT)
:::Over here, you're allowed to upload one pic specifically for your userpage. On top of that, from what I gather, you can add other pics that already exist for article, but obviously don't go overboard. Hope that helps! --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:10, 24 October 2011 (EDT)
:::::Thank you. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 18:11, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

== I noticed the BotCon Europe 2002 talk page ==

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Selective_deletion]

Just being helpful. :) --[[User:Krafty|K-K-Krafty!]] 10:22, 11 November 2011 (EST)

== About the caption bastard template... ==

I do not understand why you added that (mean-spirited) template. It's only two captions, and if you looked at my contributions, you would have noticed that I added a lot of information. I thought captions were supposed to be a reward for all that work. Adding a twist on an overused joke is at least an attempt to make it fresh, rather than stating some variation of "this joke sucks now", which is ''just'' as overused as plainly using an overused joke. [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 19:41, 6 January 2012 (EST)
: I apologize for using the template. I was going to write a more personal note, but remembered we had the template, forgetting how sharply worded it was. You have not been a bad editor. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:42, 6 January 2012 (EST)

==A massive favour to ask==
Ive just started getting into your webcomics (im up to date on shortpacked and it wasnt until this morning i realised about you're earlier ones) but i have a huge favour to ask of you. I am currntly stuck with this stupid school laptop for a home computer which includes a school blocking system. While Shortpacked and Joyce and Walky sites are unaffected when i try to open dumbing of age it comes up with
[[Image:Examplepagetoshowwalky.jpg|left|500px|thumb|]]
Is there anyway you could perhaps email me copies of the files for each update + all the ones so far. I can understand if you say no but i though there was no harm in asking--[[User:Mrgalvaprime|Mrgalvaprime]] 06:15, 17 January 2012 (EST)
: I'm sorry, but I cannot email you all my comics. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:12, 1 March 2012 (EST)
Oh well, it was a long shot anyway--[[User:Mrgalvaprime|Mrgalvaprime]] 03:47, 30 May 2012 (EDT)
{{-}}

== Prime toys ==

You wouldn't happen to know when exactly the ''Transformers: Prime'' toys are scheduled to be released, would you?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 19:59, 1 March 2012 (EST)
: Transformers toys that aren't the first wave of product for a blockbuster movie don't tend to have release dates. Stores will receive them and put them out at some point after that. So I have no date for you. However, I've seen them out at some stores here for weeks, so the answer is "some time in the past, perhaps now, perhaps not until the future." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:10, 1 March 2012 (EST)
I haven't seen any toys in the stores, but thanks anyway.[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.244|71.255.172.244]] 21:44, 1 March 2012 (EST)

The other convention-exclusive pink Arcee figure, they are availible on the web. How would I be able to get it without getting lead into a scam. I was hoping you or someone on this wiki would know how I would be able to get that toy. I didn't go to the convention.[[Special:Contributions/71.162.106.122|71.162.106.122]] 19:24, 4 March 2012 (EST)
: http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/transformers-prime-bumblebee-and-arcee-set?BR=496&ID=29273 --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:58, 5 March 2012 (EST)
::Wow! Only $29.99. Thanks.
:::On Ebay, it costs $80.00.

== what you said to me ==

i will make sure i learn more english when i go to school today
: Mostly I hope they teach you about capital letters and punctuation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:02, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

It's kind of hard to do that all when you're using a wii like I am [[User:Jacktransformerdude|Jacktransformerdude]] 02:08, 19 March 2012 (EDT)
: If you're editing the wiki with something that makes it nigh-impossible to edit the wiki, you probably shouldn't edit the wiki. I've tried it on my cellphone before, and it's extremely difficult to get all of the various coding right, but if I can't edit the wiki correctly, I just don't edit the wiki. Leaving a bunch of stuff that has to be deleted or completely overhauled is worse than not contributing at all. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:54, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

== The Fallen/Megatronus Prime artwork ==

I wanted to have someone verify this before I uploaded it, but is [http://t4ak.roblox.com/daaf9f4eb9b33f115661eb4a7c849007 this] the concept art for the ''Aligned'' pre-Fallen version of Megatronus Prime, and if so is is usable? --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 15:23, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
: That's not exactly what we saw at Hasbro's panels. It's not in the same style. (It'd look more like the Aligned Prima art, which is way more painterly.) This looks like an artist's recreation from memory to me. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:07, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::Thanks, just what I needed to know. Off to search again. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 16:53, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Pictures were not allowed of those guys. If you somehow manage to find one, we wouldn't be able to use it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:15, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
::::Gotcha. Thanks anyway. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 21:37, 17 April 2012 (EDT)

== Prime Hot Shot toy image ==

Not really sure why you replaced the photos that I already took for the toy with your own, (which are kind of faded, especially with the red) but whatever. Just kind of wondering why, though. Well, there go my efforts... :/ [[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 23:19, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
: M Sipher overwrote my Kick-Over photos. It happens. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:33, 7 May 2012 (EDT)

== Reno Wilson ==

If I sound impatient, I'm sorry, but I've explained the reasoning behind my edit to the Mudflap controversy several times over, and nobody has disagreed with me. A couple users explained what it's supposed to mean, but it turns out that it's based on an incorrect assumption to begin with. Both times that I've I changed it, though, the edit has been reverted without an explanation. If this is about my spate of edits to my own comments, then I'm sorry, but I'm just editing a minor note to be more factually accurate and less obtusely "snarky". How can I get it to stick? - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 17:00, 13 May 2012 (EDT)
: "Nobody has disagreed with me" is a pretty bold complaint, considering everyone on that talk page disagrees with you. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:08, 13 May 2012 (EDT)
::In my defense, that's a recent development. Nobody ''had'' disagreed with me when I wrote that. If anyone can prove me wrong or show that this is a special case, I'll shut up right now. However, while I understand if it became personal at some point, I have to admit I don't see the point in defending the wording of one note so closely to begin with, at least not unless it's funnier than I thought. - [[User:Caswin|Caswin]] 18:12, 13 May 2012 (EDT)
:::"Prove me wrong" is a red herring. The entire discussion is a "Yeah-huh"/"Nuh-uh" dynamic. You didn't understand the joke. Everyone else did. There's nothing left to prove or discuss. Please, please, please move on to something else. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:31, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

==IDW==
Ok. Fine but can you edit Ratchet then if I do my edits too long because I've been on it for quite awhile. Ed

===IDW Whirl==
Hi there, I'm not sure how else to get in touch with you.
Please don't include speculative conclusions to the Wiki. All that was written in MTMTE #6 regarding Whirl is that he was at one point an instructor, and that he changed his names a few times. Until it has been confirmed that Whirl IS or is not Jetstream, please don't state as such. (apple pie)
: I don't think you grasp the difference between speculative conclusions and the Whirl/Jetstream deal. Don't mess with those pages again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:03, 27 June 2012 (EDT)

===Nightracer Changes===
I got a note from you and am not sure the proper method for messaging or response to you, so I'll just say it here? You needn't have so drastically changed both entries for Nightracer. I deliberately created a new page for the cloned Nightracer so once more was known about both, they could both be altered accordingly. You seemed to edit both pages until they were to YOUR liking, rather than letting them evolve as needs be. Really, you created a lot of work for yourself, so please don't get upset and send me condescending messages when you could have simply fixed the new entry, and let me know how they work. It's not exactly easy to find instructions on how to "discuss" things, so assuming you know EXACTLY how everything should work and then talking down to a newer user doesn't really make you look very good.
: YOU needn't have so drastically changed Nightracer's entries. That is my problem. I am trying to revert. As a new user, when you make many many changes to a page, to the point of moving the page itself, without asking about it first, I don't think you have a lot of room to get mad at someone else changing it a whole bunch to put it mostly back the way it was. Next time, ask. Certainly, at least, until you have a better grasp of how the wiki organizes information. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:08, 7 September 2012 (EDT)

===Reverting All My Edits==
Okay, so maybe I should quit adding captions. But why do you keep undoing my major edits to character bio pages too? Okay, it shouldn't be an essay. But this is a Wikipedia, and it's the Transformers Wikipedia to boot; people come here for specific information. On Transformers.
[[User:Harley Quinn hyenaholic|Harley Quinn hyenaholic]] 10:49, 21 September 2012 (EDT)
: You are not adding specific information. You are saying in fifteen paragraphs what the page is already saying in three paragraphs. It is not only unnecessary, but makes the page worse. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:52, 21 September 2012 (EDT)

==Secretary joke==
:I have no problem with acknowledging Arcee's less intense role in HM (note: I have yet to see about half of HM, so as for HM context I hardly have anything to say), but I question what is the joke's target: The Headmasters's writing... or secretaries and Japanese people? It's not just that joke, it's that this wiki has a small web of jokes and remarks relating to Arcee's job change that go beyond fair critique and into, well, bigotry. I'm trying to imagine how the way the wiki trashes on Arcee's job change must read to someone who is a secretary. As the child of a (once) secretary, I do see it as an attack on the job itself. You can't really deny that - just look at the image description I've changed that felt the need to specify the job warrior with "brave" as if being a secretary means you can't be brave (if this is HM context, it fails to specify that). Airazor's page used to have the same problem in her writeup about her gender in Japan. This also makes the joke gendered, given the usual associations of who does which job contrasted with the idea which job deserves more appreciation. For the other element of the joke that bugs me, I invite a look at BW Blackarachnia's note section. There's one at best humorous, at worst neutral treatment of an absolutely disgusting post on Blackarachnia's design process. The next note about Blackarachnia in Japan is written with much more condemnation while failing to convince me I'm reading about something worse than the previous note. And then there's that eternal remark about Arcee in HM again that again fails to offer a proper and coherent story rather than inside-crowd cover-aggression. I could also talk about the 'joke' showing up on TFA Arcee's page, which is kinda bull considering TFA had a bad-to-horrendous treatment of most of its female cast, Arcee included, but that's not commented on. No, what is commented on is a lesser worse treatment of G1 Arcee decennia ago in that awful country known as Japan.
:That's why I want the joke changed. Not because the wiki shouldn't talk about the job change and sexist/gender stereotypical script motivations, but because I don't think a small cover-aggressive caption will be enough to do that without being sexist itself. And in the context of the entire wiki, because I feel critique on Japanese writing is handled considerably bolder than critique on American writing.
:All that said, I'm taking a step aside from the above to thank you for the Arcee captions you've added. They're a great addition to her article. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:09, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
::I've yet to be convinced that you can tell the difference between making fun of bigotry and bigotry itself. You seem to constantly believe one is the other, and suggest that just dealing with the subject directly is embracing it. To that I say bullshit, and that's stupid. You're not going to win that argument. Making fun of stupid Transformers crap is what this wiki does, and "historically bad treatment of female characters" is not magically exempt from that.
:: The way to fix this is not to dial back on the criticism of stupid crap. If there are things you think we should lampshade but we are not, by all means, fix that. Animated Arcee already has a caption on her page talking about how she's just a prop. I added one to G1 Arcee's page last night about her less-than-stellar introduction into IDW continuity. (Both those are English fictions, btw.)
:: The "In Japan, I'm a secretary!" is a caption that is as old as her page, and originally belonged to a screencap from her then-only appearance in which her leg had gotten blown off in the line of duty. I don't think it's appropriate for the stock image for which it has substituted and could stand to be changed to match the image better. But if you're going to level the pretty incendiary charge of "bigotry," I think you could at least meet that serious charge with the footwork to determine the source and context of the content you're leveling the claim at. Again, this is part of my concern that you assume the worst of others' intentions without first attempting to understand them. Is a caption "bigotry" when it merely survived an earlier version of the page from a time when Animated Arcee didn't have the history she does now? Or do you just like throwing that damn word around because it's easy? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:34, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
:::You know what I don't get? That I can't simply say "this caption makes me uncomfortable" and that that is enough reason to change it (I could also add to that "these captions have ''always'' made me uncomfortable but I've been too scared and confused to do something about most of them earlier"). Also I don't get why you keep making this as if I am attacking individuals. The only reason I contacted you and M Sipher is because you both returned something that makes me uncomfortable and rather than start an edit war with an admin or two because I'd like to get a few things done before ever getting banned, I'm trying to talk this over. Yes, I'm using words as "bigotry" and "sexism", because I don't think they're big words that should be reserved for the most extreme, clearly visible of cases. The moment it plays into a system (that makes the extreme cases possible), it qualifies. But I don't call ''anyone'' any of those words, because I don't believe these jokes/critiques are bad on their own, but bad in a system, and I don't hold anyone of this wiki responsible for that system. Why I don't look up histories of page jokes/remarks - I'm not interested in who put it there and the reasons for it aren't really important either. All I'm concerned about is what is there now and how it connects with other such comments all over the wiki. Individual excuses are just going to cloud the systematic problem's presence.
:::And believe me, it's ''not'' easy using those words, because they're words that are likely to cause unwarranted defensiveness that blocks out the entire function of those words of pointing out systematic problems. If I'd go for easy, I'd be ass-kissing my way into your good graces right now.
:::I hope you'll excuse me that I'll give a specific reply to "I've yet to be convinced that you can tell the difference between making fun of bigotry and bigotry itself. You seem to constantly believe one is the other, and suggest that just dealing with the subject directly is embracing it." (only). There's two things I know of that are important in this, and those are all needed: that ironic sexism ís a form of sexism and that femmephobia is a terrible way of 'battling' sexism. That indeed puts a number of jokes and remarks around here in the same vein of bad as what they try to criticize. Call it a 'belief' if you want to, I'll keep calling it 'What is Sexism 101'. And lastly, it's nonsense that a caption can 'deal with a subject directly'. Nearly all captions rely on background knowledge, but do not provide it themselves. That's why a number of them criticizing content fail. Notes and elaborate sections tend to provide better 'deal with a subject directly'-stuff, but they're rare.
:::The thing is that I'd love to rewrite/write about some of the problematic content and 'deal with the subject directly' but I sincerely doubt that it would be appreciated. There was, for example, the matter of Override Prime's Primehood about a year ago that did not go down well. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 17:36, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
::::The problem is that you have a definition of "femmephobia" that others do not share, and so your claims of it aren't getting any traction. I still can't comprehend how pointing out that Arcee's function in America is "Warrior" but her function in Japan is "Go-fer" is in any way being hateful of ladies. Hear me out: I in no way want to diminish your feelings on a topic that you have a inside take on. As a female, you will always have a better understanding of the experience, and as dudes the best we can do is listen and understand. However, the problem is ''you are just one female.'' You don't represent all of them. I've been doing webcomics about ladies and gay folks for forever, and if there's anything I've learned over and over again it's that nobody agrees on what's offensive or sexist or bigoted. I've gotten yelled for jokes being construed as insensitive by a minority, while simultaneously a bunch of other folks from that same minority saying that other guy or gal is wrong and it was fine. If commentary could be vetoed by one person who didn't like it, there wouldn't be any commentary ever. And so while your word carries more weight on this topic due to circumstance of birth, your word will not always be Final. It can't work that way.
::::You can make a plea for why that caption is dumb, and if others agree we can certainly yank it out, but other people can outvote you. This wiki is a collaborative project and no one person can veto the decisions of the community, lest I remind you that we don't have an all-encompassing Sideways page. Your best course of action is to find others who agree with you and get them involved here. I bet you that on this topic the wiki would be willing to listen to a vocal minority (that is, consisting of more than one person). --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:37, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
::::At any rate, I've asked around: http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/32361010306/a-question-to-the-ladies-who-follow-me-so (I want to emphasize through this exercise that while I may not agree with your take, I do take it seriously.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:17, 26 September 2012 (EDT)
:::::Oh, I am familiar with your work and the controversies it causes. If I recall correctly, it was one of your comics that introduced me to the term "ableism". Came in handy when the D-drama in the MLP: Friendship is Magic fandom started.
:::::I am also well-aware I am not the chosen representative of all of womanhood, nor did I present myself as such. I very much appreciate you asking others for their opinions, even though I didn't have to look to know what the general attitude would be. It's commendable you took the time to do this for me. Thank you.
:::::That said, you unintentionally brought up another possible 'both be happy'-solution for this matter that doesn't require too much change I think. I don't know much about Arcee's role in HM, as said already, but if her role is so small that her job can be described as "gofer", then all I request is that word to be used on the wiki instead of "secretary" for me to be, well, a lot more okay with the situation, and definitely the caption. Would that be possible (I accept 'no')? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:05, 27 September 2012 (EDT)
::::::"Go-fer" is fine. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:43, 27 September 2012 (EDT)

== Question ==
Alright, I probably seem like a little kid for asking this, but how do you think I did on the ''[[Transformers: Prime - The Game|Prime - The Game]]'' page? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 08:19, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

== "Home in" ==

I don't understand how the merriam link disagrees with jalaguy; it specifically gives "a missile honing in on its target — Bob Greene" as an example.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:01, 27 November 2012 (EST)
: Yes, it gives examples of usage, but then spends a whole paragraph belaboring how it shouldn't be used. The page defines it, but then tells you not to use it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:34, 27 November 2012 (EST)
:: I hadn't expected to start a mini-edit war with that note. Thanks for the support! [[User:JW|JW]] 10:35, 28 November 2012 (EST)

== Predacon bird ==

I Looked it up and can't find anything on the Predacon bird from Car Robots. Can you please tell me where I can find the picture of the Predacon bird?[[User:Transfan 1992|Transfan 1992]] 19:50, 9 December 2012 (EST)
: I seriously have no idea what the hell you are talking about. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:25, 10 December 2012 (EST)
::He seems to be talking about some random shot cut from an [[The Decepticons|RID episode]]... [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 20:29, 10 December 2012 (EST)
:::Then I am of no help. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:21, 11 December 2012 (EST)

== NOOOOO.jpg ==

: [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] has had [tfwiki.net/wiki/File:NOOOOO.jpg this] marked to be moved since May. No one's done so, so I'd like to see if I you'd approve of the move?--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 18:29, 27 July 2013 (EDT)

== Question. ==

EDIT-Thank you.[[User:Escargon|Escargon]] 17:06, 19 August 2013 (EDT)

== Apologies ==

Hey ItsWalky,

Just saw your message. Just got rid of the link. Sorry about that.

I didn't mean to break any rules, I just wanted to know what to do with the info.

--[[User:Dean3|Dean3]] 01:00, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

Wait until it airs? Which is why the Predacons Rising page is LOCKED? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:02, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

Will do. Thanks again for the info. Also, as a side note, that's an ''awesome'' profile image you've got on your page. Plus your art is awesome too; just checked your blog page. --[[User:Dean3|Dean3]] 02:48, 17 September 2013 (EDT)

== Possible Second Alt Mode.... ==

Does perceptor in fall of cybertron transform into a microscope?
[[User:Hyruk]]
: I dunno, maybe read [[Perceptor (Prime)|Perceptor]]'s page to find out. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:40, 1 November 2013 (EDT)

== Recordicons 16 ==

Are the guys in the background besides Injector meant to be anybody? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 16:23, 26 February 2014 (EST)
: The only other real background guy is Ravage. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:50, 26 February 2014 (EST)
: Though the robot in the extreme foreground is [[:File:Maccadams bartender marvel uk 82.jpg|this person]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:52, 26 February 2014 (EST)

== Dark Cybertron ==

Hi Walky,
Can I ask why exactly my edits to DC #11 are just NO? They're perfectly valid points;
1) Prowl did remove the head from Powlistator in RID, and seeing though he hated it, had no reason to fix it back onto himself. So the combined mode SHOULD have no head in that issue.
2) Brainstorm HAS been dead all this time, and as it was established all the way back in the -Ations, anybody who has can't die again. He should not have been affected by the kill switch.
Looking forward to finding out just WHY I am incorrect,
-Drift
:The Brainstorm thing will OBVIOUSLY be explained later. Like, super-obviously. It is not an error. It's what Roberts DOES. It's been planned for YEARS. And if the Prowl head actually belongs to Prowl, he sure doesn't seem to be missing any mass. I mean, that head must be made out of some parts of him, right? So it either belongs to one of the other Constructicons or the creation of the altmode kibble is magical -- in either case, it's not an error. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 15:12, 24 March 2014 (EDT)
:: I tweeted Roberts about it as soon as it came out. Normally when it's going to be explained in a few issues he sort of gives a sly wink nod tweet back, and he didn't say anything, making me think that for once he didn't think about that. Also, if you look, Prowl HAS lost mass between the first time Griffith drew him and the times he has in DC. Even if he hasn't that would be an artist error, which doesn't change to fact it HAS happened. Even if it did come from a Constructicon, they too haven't had the time to fix that either as they left Iacon, meaning they wouldn't have had time to have it re-attached and I doubt it would have been high up their priorities. I'd possibly give you Brainstorm, but I think you're wrong about Devastator.{{unsigned|Drift1998}}
::: If the Devastator head thing must be mentioned, I would put it in notes. I don't think it's an outright error in the way we classify errors. There's too many ways to explain it. And, yes, Prowl is drawn smaller now... by other artists, particularly Rojo, who draws EVERYONE kind of tiny and skinny. That isn't really what I meant by missing mass -- I meant missing parts of himself. I didn't mean he, y'know, lost weight.
::: And there's way too many conspicuous things going on with Brainstorm to call that an error. He's the only one who's shot before the Killswitch is flipped, and this same shot (again) conspicuously unlinks his briefcase from his arm. There is stuff afoot here. If it is mentioned on the page, it should not be as an error, but as... speculation? But we don't really do that, so no. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 16:06, 24 March 2014 (EDT)

==AOE Screencaps==
they are from the digital version, which is an official release of the movie which was released yesterday, not a pirated version. would never post pics from a pirated version. or does the digital version count as pirated? --[[User:Eagc7|Eagc7]] ([[User talk:Eagc7|Eagc7]]) 17 September 2014
:Yeah, Walky, the film came out on iTunes yesterday. The screenshots people are uploading are legit. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 14:45, 17 September 2014 (EDT)
::Durr, I am stupid sorry. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 15:05, 17 September 2014 (EDT)

== Character appearance stubs ==

Yo, here's my deal with removing those stubs to the IDW Megatron page (and others). Take for example adding a Megatron appearance for RID # 7 "Dinobot Hunt". Megatron shows up in that montage that accompanies Prowl's analysis of the war. Does that really count as part of MEGATRON's history? "Prowl mentioned Megatron to Bumblebee" or some such would have to be the write-up. It doesn't show us any new information about Megatron- it is just a visual aid for the reader.

And does that mean that every time someone shows up in a montage and not some actual image in-fiction that it belongs in that section? Like the montage of events spanning the entire IDW continuity in Chaos Theory, Part 1? Does that count as a Verity Carlo appearance that needs to be recorded on her page? Seems to me that stuff like that is best left referenced on the actual issue's page, or at best...in the history of the character actually making the recall.

I removed those stubs because I don't think the person who added them looked at those issues to see what the appearance listed actually WAS. If you've got some better reasoning that they should stay, I would, with respect, like to hear it. --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] ([[User talk:Nu-Priest|talk]]) 15:02, 10 February 2015 (EST)
: Yes, every time a character appears in a story, it should have a mention in the fiction area, even in flashbacks and recounted information. If "Prowl mentioned Megatron once in a conversation with whoever" doesn't work, merely move that storylink to where that original occurrence happened, right behind the storylink of what's being referenced. A fiction section's goal should include a storylink to every appearance. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 18:29, 10 February 2015 (EST)
::That seems a little TOO meticulous to me, even for this wiki, but I won't argue the point any further. --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] ([[User talk:Nu-Priest|talk]]) 19:48, 10 February 2015 (EST)

== PNGs ==

Yes, for filesize reasons. But that only applies to screencaps/comic scans/etc, since there's no benefit to saving them as PNGs rather than JPGs.

On the other hand, it's the only practical way to get a transparent-backed logo and in the case of the Angry Birds Megatron pic, I took the file directly from the Angry Birds Transformers website, and it was only something like 40kb and not worth the quality reduction. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 17:39, 4 April 2015 (EDT)
: PNGs are good for transparently-backed logos, yes. That's one of the few allowed reasons we have them on this site -- also for stuff that needs to be crisper for readability. But a simple artwork off a website should be JPG. That is our policy. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 18:22, 4 April 2015 (EDT)

== Question ==

I guess you would be the one to talk to. Could you please answer the question I put on The Gathering #1's talk page? Also, I'm a big fan of Shortpacked. [[User:Avalanche|Avalanche]] ([[User talk:Avalanche|talk]]) 18:57, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

Never mind, apparently Ascendron took notice and fixed it. [[User:Avalanche|Avalanche]] ([[User talk:Avalanche|talk]]) 22:36, 8 April 2015 (EDT)
: No probs. Though I'm not even sure I have the Gathering to check, so I wouldn't have been the best to ask anyway! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 23:19, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

== MTMTE 39 ==

I think we all know who wrote this issue. (psst it's buckets of blood guy) [[User:Avalanche|Avalanche]] ([[User talk:Avalanche|talk]]) 11:34, 14 April 2015 (EDT)

==Things that don't exist==
Sorry. I was going by how the category seemed to be used. I think I've eliminated every instance where there is some Ask Vector Prime fiction. --[[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] ([[User talk:Giggidy|talk]]) 16:06, 10 September 2015 (EDT)

== Battle Masters ==

I created pages for Battle Masters characters simply because I thought [[User:Giggidy|Giggidy]] was an admin, I mean to me he speak so admin-ish here: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Talk:Battle_Masters. (I'm not saying it's Giggidys fault.) You see I don't know who's admin or not in this site. Sorry for creating those Battle Masters pages.--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 12:10, 13 September 2015 (EDT)

==Blocking Dr. Vadam==
Awwwww...You blocked Dr. Vadam. That guy was friggin' comedy gold. I mean... did you see [[User talk:Dr. Vadam#Daddy to the rescue!|the part where he was pretending to be his dad]]? That was ''hilariously'' pathetic.

In all seriousness though, I'd like it if you could leave up his contributions page so I can look through it and maybe undo some more of that micro-editing crap he did on some of the live-action film series pages. -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 08:12, 13 December 2015 (EST)
: 1) I mentioned the dad thing in the banning message.
: 2) I did not delete his contributions. You ''can't'' delete somebody's contributions. Just, like, find the last time he edited something on the Recent Changes page and click the (contribs) link next to his name.
:--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 12:42, 13 December 2015 (EST)

== Request to delete user page ==

I would like to request you to delete my User Page,
I do not feel like using the Wiki much,I would he grateful if you carry out this little request of mine.
[[User:Hyruk|Hyruk]] ([[User talk:Hyruk|talk]]) 06:16, 27 December 2015 (EST)

== Spammers ==

There's more of 'em -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 12:25, 4 February 2016 (EST)

== Article Creation Question ==

Hey there! Was looking at the broken links in [[Sins of the Wreckers issue 3]] and was curious about what to do with Nome. For a real-world location with very, very little Transformers-related fiction set in it, might it be more fitting for me to simply link it to Alaska's page (with appropriate mention added to that article)? [[User:RevTibe|RevTibe]] ([[User talk:RevTibe|talk]]) 16:47, 16 February 2016 (EST)
: [[Fallon|Cities get their own page.]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 19:16, 16 February 2016 (EST)
:: Okey-doke. [[User:RevTibe|RevTibe]] ([[User talk:RevTibe|talk]]) 19:19, 16 February 2016 (EST)

== Two Things ==

1. When looking at a pages history, what do the green plus' and red minus' mean? 2. When I edited a caption on Under-3 to change the reference from Arby's to a Happy Meal (the logic being that Under-3s original toy was sold with a Happy Meal, so it made more sense to reference that), you edited it back and said "no that's not the godbeep joke." So, what ''is'' the joke? I was under the impression that the joke was that he goes on this dark depressing rant, and then immediately follows it up with a standard cheery cashier catchphrase. [[User:Legotron123|Legotron123]] ([[User talk:Legotron123|talk]]) 20:04, 19 June 2016 (EDT)
:The + and - indicate how many letters were added or removed. The joke on Under-3 is specifically a reference to the [https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys Nihilist Arbys Twitter]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 21:19, 19 June 2016 (EDT)

== Apology ==

This is Jtarvin. Did you see my usertalk page? I apologized. [[User:jtarvin|jtarvin]] ([[User talk:jtarvin|talk]]) 13:24, 19 September 2016 (EDT)

== Titan Returns Leader Optimus ==

I just wanted to do a little research into the situation with the Leader class Optimus Prime base mode. I'm thinking that the issue you mentioned with the gun might be a hit-or-miss situation and it might be helpful to note if there's something there.

You originally mentioned that the gun can't plug into the chest plate. I was able to, but it's a tight fit. Do you think maybe a molding defect or even just the paint on the peg make some copies impossible to connect while others don't? Or could it just be a case of QA missing a one-off defect? I got a TR Ravage not too long ago, and one of its wings is missing some plastic. I thought a similar case might be a possibility. --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] ([[User talk:King Starscream|talk]]) 15:25, 30 September 2016 (EDT)

== I require some assistance. ==

So you may not remember me, but a loooooong time ago you told me about some of the rules in regards to what I was doing. The thing I need help with is how those rules apply when I am creating my personal user page. So if you could just help me out with this that would be great. Thanks. --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 15:09, 2 March 2017 (EST)

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== I want to add an image. ==

So I want to put in an image of Metroplex's arm because I think its a pretty significant part in the episode, and given how the only current image is the teaser for the next series, I think it could use another picture. The only problem is that I have absolutely no idea how to do add it in. So if someone could help me out here, it would be much appreciated. --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 13:05, 2 March 2017 (EST)

Talk:Wreck-Gar (Animated)

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Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* Should he be dead? */

--[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 10:27, 27 November 2009 (EST)on the offical site, he's called Junkion.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:84.18.160.11|84.18.160.11]] ([[User talk:84.18.160.11|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/84.18.160.11|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.
:What official site? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 09:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::www.transformersanimated.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:84.18.160.11|84.18.160.11]] ([[User talk:84.18.160.11|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/84.18.160.11|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.
:::That site flat-out states that it's a fansite.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 15:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Where exactly?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:84.18.160.11|84.18.160.11]] ([[User talk:84.18.160.11|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/84.18.160.11|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.
:::::At the bottom of the page: "This is a fan website and has no affiliation to Cartoon Network or Hasbro. Please visit their offical sites by clicking on their logos. Website Owned by Transformers At The Moon" --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:43, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::That site also calls Lugnut Lugnutz, so it's not a good source. -[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 19:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

This is the first time a garbage truck Transformer actually gets a toy. It's an actual alt-mode that hasn't been done as a toy before! ...and I'm more excited about that than I should be. --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 06:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well actually, the show synopsys says that he transform from a pile of garbage, not FROM a garbage truck, so I don't reeally know how he will be look like. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 07:46, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
::I suspect one of those giant garbage-can bots that were playing each other like steel drums at the concert.--[[User:76.20.88.10|76.20.88.10]] 22:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

<nowiki> I read that he was definitely a garbage truck somewhere. I'm not sure where, though, then again it was probably from that fansite mentioned in above comments. I doubt he'd be one of those dustbin-bots. They're robots anyway, and humanoid at that, (two arms, two legs), and so wouldn't make a very good alternate mode.</nowiki> [[User:Thyunda|Thyunda]] 11:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Motorbike ==

Did anyone notice the motorbike that Wreck-Car threw to Bumblebee ? [[User:Retroqqq|Retroqqq]] 16:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:It's already in the episode trivia.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hey, hey ==

Would it be cool with everyone if I were to track down and '''''FUCKING STAB''''' the next person who claims that some arbitrary thing in Animated is a Gurren Lagaan reference? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
::Watch out, they might call you anti-Japanese! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Look, just because the majority of Japanese -original TF fiction sucks liquid shit... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Hey, don't hate on Kiss Players. You're being intolerant toward pedophiles. - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 08:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Japanese TF fiction was a stinking quagmire long before KP ever came into the scene. KP was only a ''symptom'' of a far greater problem that's been festering for two decades. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

A couple of quotes from [http://derrickjwyatt.blogspot.com/ Derrick Wyatt's blog] on this subject worth pointing out:

In response to question abouth whether Gurren Lagann was an influence on Headmaster's design:

* "About Gurren Lagann: No, actually. I hadn't seen Gurren Lagann until after we had finished most of the first season of TFA. I wish I had, because I would have had the Headmaster robot transform with stubby little legs. And maybe Masterson's head popping up out of the top of the robot.

And further elaboration:

* "About the inspiration and influences on TFA: I'm always inspired by Gainax's designs. They are by far my favorite animation studio in the world. I just hadn't seen anything on Gurren Lagann when we started TFA. We've definitely been inspired by that and Diebuster since. Prowl and Soundwave's glasses are a nod to 2000 AD's ABC Warriors. That and Mighty Orbots were the biggest influences on the designs."

So to some degree they've "definitely been inspired" by Gurren Lagann, not in the intial design phase but subsequently. Perhaps we oughta dial back the knee-jerk "THAT'S NOT A REFERENCE ARRGGH" reactions just a bit?

(P.S. I have no clue what "Gurren Lagann" is. Some anime, I'm assuming.) --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 09:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:This fella was claiming Wreck-Gar ''himself'' was a Gurren Lagann reference. So I feel perfectly comfortable knee-jerking here. If anything his TV head ''may'' be a Gainax reference, but we're talking more FLCL here.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::Was directed more at the original comment from Chris McFeely than your specific edit of this page. As it seems entirely possibly that the next time someone claims something is a Gurren Lagann reference, they may be right, and if so shouldn't be greeted with stab-rage. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Well I'm just saying, yes now that we're in the second season there is a chance that Wyatt is throwing some of those our way. It's just that the Gurren Lagann fanboys think ''everything'' is a Gurren Lagann reference. I think that's what McFeely's getting torqued about. They seem to ignore that nearly anything existed before.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:48, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Like the kamina shades. Which was claimed (in a ''waaah mean wiki'' whine on Derrick's blog) to have never been applied to robots before Gurren Lagann... meanwhile, I have some MegaMan/RockMan games from over a decade ago that say other-god-damn-wise. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::In this case I suspect it was "Oh he's red! And orange! And his chest kind of looks like a face! Maybe! If you squint! Total Gurren Lagann reference!"--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, and the name is actually twice as long and impossible to spell. But seriously, Mighty Orbots? I fangirled the moment I read that, so thank you. (Here's hoping for upcoming TFs named Bo, Boo, Crunch, Tor, Bort and Ohno... preferably a combiner team.) - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 09:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

...don't spoil my stabbing. :( - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
: Did you guys saw that every robot has a face in this show? And in Gurren Lagann, the robots are called Ganmen, because they had faces on their chest? Totally referece, rite guise? (Now I feel all dirty.)--[[User:84.3.90.174|84.3.90.174]] 18:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::There was a caption there going "I AM WRECK GAR AND I AM A GURREN LAGAAN REFERENCE!! huh... what is gurren lagaan?" to mock people that were saying his "pointing" pose was a gurren lagaan reference, it was a sarcastic caption, pretty much in the same way that Wreck gar stated to be hailing Megatron and didnt knew who he was.

== Red-eyed Wreck-Gar ==

Hmm, do we need a pic of red-eyed Wreck-Gar, to show his eeevil side? [[User:JW|JW]] 16:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

"It's time to let your babies grow up to be Cowboys" or "It's time to let the bedbugs bite" or "Bite the hand that feeds you" for the caption?

== Captions ==

Eh...much as I appreciate the "Dare to Be Stupid" running gag, I actually liked the variety-influenced captions more. Just my two bits.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 03:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. Not to mention, those captions were put there by the folks who supplied the images. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, as the guy who put the images up, I kinda like the new DtBS captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
:::This episode is full of G1 and movie fan wankery, so the DtBS captions are more then fitting here.
::::I have to agree with that point. Although, it doesn't really help the fact that I'm listening to the soundtrack while I'm doing this and DtBS just so happened to be playing ''while I was reading the article''. Probably a coincidence, or maybe not?... --[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 01:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::The captions fit perfectly well if you ask me, both in terms of the article's tone and Wreck-Gar's personality. [[User:(Undecided)|(Undecided)]] 01:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Wow, this has GOT to be one fo the most popular contributions I've made.--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 01:17, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I posted this just before the meltdown, so I'll try it again. Maybe this time I won't crash the site by doing so. Anyway: not that the "Dare to be Stupid" captions aren't acceptable, but I think we can do better. I mean, come on, Weird Al has a song that's [http://lyricwiki.org/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic:Trash_Day entirely ABOUT garbage]! Yes, DTBS is a Transformers reference, but he only mentions it once, and the rest of the time people are talking about his trash. So, Weird Al + garbage = Wreck-Gar. Weird Al + garbage = "Trash Day." To me, it's too good to pass up, but I know people get touchy about captions, so I wanted to float the idea in here first. --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 19:45, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

== Christmas at Ground Zero ==

It's hard to believe no one's made a joke about this yet, considering how absolutely perfect it is for Human Error 2. Can we find an image of Wreck-Gar with the santa-sack and use a line from the song as a caption?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:25, 25 April 2009 (EDT)
:You could also use something from "The Night Santa Went Crazy".[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 21:55, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
::If you do use a line, I agree with Monty Prime about "The Night Santa Went Crazy" for the simple reason that I had to listen to it several times before I could understand all the lyrics. I laughed through the entire song (more so than with "Christmas at Ground Zero"). That's just my opinion.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 23:36, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
:::The thing is that Wreck-Gar wasn't killing children, but Detroit ''was'' a Ground Zero because of the battle. But then again, captions don't always fit.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:06, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
::::I don't think that there were kids getting killed in Santa Went Crazy, only reindeer, and elves. But if upload the image, you pick the caption and nobody should change it. That's the rule.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 01:10, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Well, I posted an image, but I'm not really good with captions so first come, first served. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 16:24, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

== Confused ==

If that's what he's going to be referred to instead of his [[Autobot|three]] [[Decepticon|different]] [[Substitute Autobot|factions]], should there be a link to [[Confused]]? --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 10:27, 27 November 2009 (EST)
:He's never actually in the "Confused" faction, so that would be kind of stupid. Just taking a joke too far. [[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 23:08, 28 November 2009 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

Not sure if anyone else noticed, but other than the colors and face, ''Animated'' Wreck-Gar actually looks a lot like G1 [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]. Should we add that under notes?

[[User:Superman|Superman]] 22:24, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
:No. Because he doesn't. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:23, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
::Ok, I'll look up pictures to try and prove my point.
[[User:Superman|Superman]] 22:24, 19 May 2012 (EDT)

Wreck-Gar:
[[Media:http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5849/tfawreckgar1.jpg]]

Motormaster:
[[Media:http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/c/c8/MTMTEMotormaster.jpg]]
Other than Wreck-Gar's feet not being he front of the cab, they do look a lot alike to me. Look at the box head, the similar detailing on his chest, the round cylinder on his arm(though for Wreck-Gar it's actually a wheel and not just a random circle). I seriuosly think we should put this down.
[[User:Superman|Superman]] 22:29, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
:No. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:59, 19 May 2012 (EDT)

== Should he be dead? ==

So as we all know, at the end of the series, Prowl sacrifices himself by summoning all of the allspark fragments, including the one in Starscream's forehead, and seeing as how that was the only thing keeping him alive, when it was removed, Starscream died... again. Anyway, my point it, what happened to the other fragment created characters, such as the constructicons, the Starscream clones, Blurr cube (Though I'm not sure how cannon that is) and of course, Wreck Gar? Come to think of it, the whole Blurr cube thing could have never happened for a multitude of reasons, but that is for another time. Anyway, back to my original point. Should Wreck Gar be dead? --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 15:47, 16 February 2017 (EST)
:Prowl specifically states that he isn't able to pull in all of the fragments, and that's why he has to add his own spark to the mix, so with that "out" in place, no, there's no reason to assume all the other fragment-animated Transformers were killed in the process. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 15:52, 16 February 2017 (EST)

Alright then, that makes sense. Thank you. --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 15:54, 16 February 2017 (EST)

Talk:Wreck-Gar (Animated)

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Talk:Wreck-Gar (Animated)

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--[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 10:27, 27 November 2009 (EST)on the offical site, he's called Junkion.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:84.18.160.11|84.18.160.11]] ([[User talk:84.18.160.11|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/84.18.160.11|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.
:What official site? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 09:51, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
::www.transformersanimated.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:84.18.160.11|84.18.160.11]] ([[User talk:84.18.160.11|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/84.18.160.11|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.
:::That site flat-out states that it's a fansite.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 15:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Where exactly?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:84.18.160.11|84.18.160.11]] ([[User talk:84.18.160.11|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/84.18.160.11|contribs]]){{#if:{{{2|}}}| {{{2}}}|}}.
:::::At the bottom of the page: "This is a fan website and has no affiliation to Cartoon Network or Hasbro. Please visit their offical sites by clicking on their logos. Website Owned by Transformers At The Moon" --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:43, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
::::::That site also calls Lugnut Lugnutz, so it's not a good source. -[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 19:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

This is the first time a garbage truck Transformer actually gets a toy. It's an actual alt-mode that hasn't been done as a toy before! ...and I'm more excited about that than I should be. --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 06:35, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
:Well actually, the show synopsys says that he transform from a pile of garbage, not FROM a garbage truck, so I don't reeally know how he will be look like. --[[User:Hepathos|Hepathos]] 07:46, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
::I suspect one of those giant garbage-can bots that were playing each other like steel drums at the concert.--[[User:76.20.88.10|76.20.88.10]] 22:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

<nowiki> I read that he was definitely a garbage truck somewhere. I'm not sure where, though, then again it was probably from that fansite mentioned in above comments. I doubt he'd be one of those dustbin-bots. They're robots anyway, and humanoid at that, (two arms, two legs), and so wouldn't make a very good alternate mode.</nowiki> [[User:Thyunda|Thyunda]] 11:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

== Motorbike ==

Did anyone notice the motorbike that Wreck-Car threw to Bumblebee ? [[User:Retroqqq|Retroqqq]] 16:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:It's already in the episode trivia.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:18, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

== Hey, hey ==

Would it be cool with everyone if I were to track down and '''''FUCKING STAB''''' the next person who claims that some arbitrary thing in Animated is a Gurren Lagaan reference? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:56, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
::Watch out, they might call you anti-Japanese! [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:46, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Look, just because the majority of Japanese -original TF fiction sucks liquid shit... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Hey, don't hate on Kiss Players. You're being intolerant toward pedophiles. - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 08:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::Japanese TF fiction was a stinking quagmire long before KP ever came into the scene. KP was only a ''symptom'' of a far greater problem that's been festering for two decades. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

A couple of quotes from [http://derrickjwyatt.blogspot.com/ Derrick Wyatt's blog] on this subject worth pointing out:

In response to question abouth whether Gurren Lagann was an influence on Headmaster's design:

* "About Gurren Lagann: No, actually. I hadn't seen Gurren Lagann until after we had finished most of the first season of TFA. I wish I had, because I would have had the Headmaster robot transform with stubby little legs. And maybe Masterson's head popping up out of the top of the robot.

And further elaboration:

* "About the inspiration and influences on TFA: I'm always inspired by Gainax's designs. They are by far my favorite animation studio in the world. I just hadn't seen anything on Gurren Lagann when we started TFA. We've definitely been inspired by that and Diebuster since. Prowl and Soundwave's glasses are a nod to 2000 AD's ABC Warriors. That and Mighty Orbots were the biggest influences on the designs."

So to some degree they've "definitely been inspired" by Gurren Lagann, not in the intial design phase but subsequently. Perhaps we oughta dial back the knee-jerk "THAT'S NOT A REFERENCE ARRGGH" reactions just a bit?

(P.S. I have no clue what "Gurren Lagann" is. Some anime, I'm assuming.) --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 09:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:This fella was claiming Wreck-Gar ''himself'' was a Gurren Lagann reference. So I feel perfectly comfortable knee-jerking here. If anything his TV head ''may'' be a Gainax reference, but we're talking more FLCL here.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::Was directed more at the original comment from Chris McFeely than your specific edit of this page. As it seems entirely possibly that the next time someone claims something is a Gurren Lagann reference, they may be right, and if so shouldn't be greeted with stab-rage. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:30, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::Well I'm just saying, yes now that we're in the second season there is a chance that Wyatt is throwing some of those our way. It's just that the Gurren Lagann fanboys think ''everything'' is a Gurren Lagann reference. I think that's what McFeely's getting torqued about. They seem to ignore that nearly anything existed before.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:48, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
::::Like the kamina shades. Which was claimed (in a ''waaah mean wiki'' whine on Derrick's blog) to have never been applied to robots before Gurren Lagann... meanwhile, I have some MegaMan/RockMan games from over a decade ago that say other-god-damn-wise. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::In this case I suspect it was "Oh he's red! And orange! And his chest kind of looks like a face! Maybe! If you squint! Total Gurren Lagann reference!"--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:Yeah, and the name is actually twice as long and impossible to spell. But seriously, Mighty Orbots? I fangirled the moment I read that, so thank you. (Here's hoping for upcoming TFs named Bo, Boo, Crunch, Tor, Bort and Ohno... preferably a combiner team.) - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 09:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

...don't spoil my stabbing. :( - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
: Did you guys saw that every robot has a face in this show? And in Gurren Lagann, the robots are called Ganmen, because they had faces on their chest? Totally referece, rite guise? (Now I feel all dirty.)--[[User:84.3.90.174|84.3.90.174]] 18:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
:::There was a caption there going "I AM WRECK GAR AND I AM A GURREN LAGAAN REFERENCE!! huh... what is gurren lagaan?" to mock people that were saying his "pointing" pose was a gurren lagaan reference, it was a sarcastic caption, pretty much in the same way that Wreck gar stated to be hailing Megatron and didnt knew who he was.

== Red-eyed Wreck-Gar ==

Hmm, do we need a pic of red-eyed Wreck-Gar, to show his eeevil side? [[User:JW|JW]] 16:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

"It's time to let your babies grow up to be Cowboys" or "It's time to let the bedbugs bite" or "Bite the hand that feeds you" for the caption?

== Captions ==

Eh...much as I appreciate the "Dare to Be Stupid" running gag, I actually liked the variety-influenced captions more. Just my two bits.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 03:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
:I agree. Not to mention, those captions were put there by the folks who supplied the images. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 03:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
::Actually, as the guy who put the images up, I kinda like the new DtBS captions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
:::This episode is full of G1 and movie fan wankery, so the DtBS captions are more then fitting here.
::::I have to agree with that point. Although, it doesn't really help the fact that I'm listening to the soundtrack while I'm doing this and DtBS just so happened to be playing ''while I was reading the article''. Probably a coincidence, or maybe not?... --[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 01:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::The captions fit perfectly well if you ask me, both in terms of the article's tone and Wreck-Gar's personality. [[User:(Undecided)|(Undecided)]] 01:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
::::::Wow, this has GOT to be one fo the most popular contributions I've made.--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 01:17, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I posted this just before the meltdown, so I'll try it again. Maybe this time I won't crash the site by doing so. Anyway: not that the "Dare to be Stupid" captions aren't acceptable, but I think we can do better. I mean, come on, Weird Al has a song that's [http://lyricwiki.org/%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic:Trash_Day entirely ABOUT garbage]! Yes, DTBS is a Transformers reference, but he only mentions it once, and the rest of the time people are talking about his trash. So, Weird Al + garbage = Wreck-Gar. Weird Al + garbage = "Trash Day." To me, it's too good to pass up, but I know people get touchy about captions, so I wanted to float the idea in here first. --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 19:45, 23 March 2009 (EDT)

== Christmas at Ground Zero ==

It's hard to believe no one's made a joke about this yet, considering how absolutely perfect it is for Human Error 2. Can we find an image of Wreck-Gar with the santa-sack and use a line from the song as a caption?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 21:25, 25 April 2009 (EDT)
:You could also use something from "The Night Santa Went Crazy".[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 21:55, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
::If you do use a line, I agree with Monty Prime about "The Night Santa Went Crazy" for the simple reason that I had to listen to it several times before I could understand all the lyrics. I laughed through the entire song (more so than with "Christmas at Ground Zero"). That's just my opinion.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 23:36, 26 April 2009 (EDT)
:::The thing is that Wreck-Gar wasn't killing children, but Detroit ''was'' a Ground Zero because of the battle. But then again, captions don't always fit.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 00:06, 27 April 2009 (EDT)
::::I don't think that there were kids getting killed in Santa Went Crazy, only reindeer, and elves. But if upload the image, you pick the caption and nobody should change it. That's the rule.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 01:10, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

Well, I posted an image, but I'm not really good with captions so first come, first served. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 16:24, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

== Confused ==

If that's what he's going to be referred to instead of his [[Autobot|three]] [[Decepticon|different]] [[Substitute Autobot|factions]], should there be a link to [[Confused]]? --[[User:Ninjabot33|Ninjabot33]] 10:27, 27 November 2009 (EST)
:He's never actually in the "Confused" faction, so that would be kind of stupid. Just taking a joke too far. [[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 23:08, 28 November 2009 (EST)

== Motormaster ==

Not sure if anyone else noticed, but other than the colors and face, ''Animated'' Wreck-Gar actually looks a lot like G1 [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]. Should we add that under notes?

[[User:Superman|Superman]] 22:24, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
:No. Because he doesn't. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:23, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
::Ok, I'll look up pictures to try and prove my point.
[[User:Superman|Superman]] 22:24, 19 May 2012 (EDT)

Wreck-Gar:
[[Media:http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/5849/tfawreckgar1.jpg]]

Motormaster:
[[Media:http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/c/c8/MTMTEMotormaster.jpg]]
Other than Wreck-Gar's feet not being he front of the cab, they do look a lot alike to me. Look at the box head, the similar detailing on his chest, the round cylinder on his arm(though for Wreck-Gar it's actually a wheel and not just a random circle). I seriuosly think we should put this down.
[[User:Superman|Superman]] 22:29, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
:No. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:59, 19 May 2012 (EDT)

== Should he be dead? ==

So as we all know, at the end of the series, Prowl sacrifices himself by summoning all of the allspark fragments, including the one in Starscream's forehead, and seeing as how that was the only thing keeping him alive, when it was removed, Starscream died... again. Anyway, my point it, what happened to the other fragment created characters, such as the constructicons, the Starscream clones, Blurr cube (Though I'm not sure how cannon that is) and of course, Wreck Gar? Come to think of it, the whole Blurr cube thing could have never happened for a multitude of reasons, but that is for another time. Anyway, back to my original point. Should Wreck Gar be dead? --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 15:47, 16 February 2017 (EST)

== Should he be dead? ==

So as we all know, at the end of the series, Prowl sacrifices himself by summoning all of the allspark fragments, including the one in Starscream's forehead, and seeing as how that was the only thing keeping him alive, when it was removed, Starscream died... again. Anyway, my point it, what happened to the other fragment created characters, such as the constructicons, the Starscream clones, Blurr cube (Though I'm not sure how cannon that is) and of course, Wreck Gar? Come to think of it, the whole Blurr cube thing could have never happened for a multitude of reasons, but that is for another time. Anyway, back to my original point. Should Wreck Gar be dead? --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 15:48, 16 February 2017 (EST)

Talk:Wreck-Gar (Animated)

2017-02-16T20:47:59Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* Should he be dead? */ new section

Talk:Buzzsaw (SG)

2016-11-16T20:52:10Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth:

From what I can tell, the series of lines and spaces used as Buzzsaw's speech does not translate into ones and zeros to converted from binary. --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 12:22, 11 May 2011 (EDT)
:Who said it did? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:41, 11 May 2011 (EDT)
::It's a reference to Woodstock of ''Peanuts''. Which you would know if you actually read the article. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:52, 11 May 2011 (EDT)
:::No one said it did. But I though it had a minor "easter egg" possibility while using the Woodstock speech. I went ahead and checked it and posted my findings in case anyone else gets the same curiosity. Obviously declaring what something isn't doesn't belong in the article itself, so I put it on the talk page. --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 14:51, 11 May 2011 (EDT)

Heh, no, the speech doesn't translate into anything. Also, while Buzzsaw's speech bubbles *are* based on Woodstock, I wouldn't say his coloration is. Buzzsaw was colored in yellow loooong before I gave him a personality and a speech pattern! I also wouldn't say his personality is based on Woodstock, either. Woodstock is, to my recollection, a flighty, flakey doofus who can't fly straight. Buzzsaw's a levelheaded snarker. Snoopy was Woodstock's straight man, while it's the other way around with Ravage and Buzzsaw. So that trivia note definitely should be retooled. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:15, 11 May 2011 (EDT)
:Nothing in the note indicates his personality is based on Woodstock. Just the speech quirk, head design and coloration... like you said, the coloration predates Recordicons, and the head design seems to be more your way of drawing that body-type's head (judging by Garbroil's appearance in the latest Recordicons) more than any deliberate reference to Woodstock. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:21, 11 May 2011 (EDT)
:: Naw, I draw Garboil's head differently from Buzzsaw. Garboil's head is more "toy-accurate," with a hooked nose. But you're right that the way I draw Buzzsaw has little to do with Woodstock. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:24, 11 May 2011 (EDT)
:::Oh, silly me. I was more looking at the "feathers" at the back of the head... Buzzsaw's nose looks little like Woodstock's big round one. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:28, 11 May 2011 (EDT)

So just to be perfectly clear, Buzzsaw's speech doesn't mean anything at all?--[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 15:52, 16 November 2016 (EST)

Talk:Dinobot (FOC)

2016-11-10T20:40:09Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* Should we make a separate article. */ new section

Shouldn't the Foc version of Lightning Strike Coalition be merged with this article since that's who they become? I mean it was before. Or are there more members of that team who didn't become Dinobots?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.99.173|71.162.99.173]] 21:04, 31 August 2012 (EDT)
: At least one. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:13, 31 August 2012 (EDT)

Should this be moved to "Dinobot (Prime)", since the Dinobots are going to star in a Prime-themed comic soon? [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 09:03, 22 September 2012 (EDT)
:I'm gonna say "yes" and move it now. And the actual character pages for the guys. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 10:52, 22 September 2012 (EDT)

I think were either have to add back the RID 2015 category since the prime cartoon is a sequel to the series and were mention in prime cartoon. the comic are more sequel to the video game when you stop to think about it.--[[User:Projectus|Projectus]] ([[User talk:Projectus|talk]]) 02:09, 12 August 2016 (EDT)
:The comics starring the FOC Dinobots connected the games to the Prime cartoon. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] ([[User talk:Sabrblade|talk]]) 11:21, 12 August 2016 (EDT)

== Should we make a separate article. ==

So it occurs to me that the Dinobots from Fall of Cybertron, and the Dinobots from RID, while in the same continuity, are two very different things.
Perhaps we should make a separate article for RID Dinobots, who seem to be more of an independent race, rather than a twisted science experiment. --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 15:40, 10 November 2016 (EST)

Optimus Primal (BW)/toys

2016-10-27T17:15:48Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* Masterpiece */

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[[File:Optimus Primal toys.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Monkey see, Monkey screw you up!]]
'''[[Optimus Primal]]''' has had a barrel full of toys. None of them [[Optimus Minor|monkeys]]!

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[File:BWtoy-Primalbat.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Cheetor. ''Cheetor.'' I'm Batman.]]
* '''Optimus Primal vs Megatron!''' (Basic versus two-pack, 1996)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-6'''
**''Accessories:'' Two swords

:The first Optimus Primal was a Basic size class blue bat which could autotransform into a robot by pulling the tail. Two swords were removable from under its wings for use as weaponry in [[robot mode]]. It was packaged along with an alligator version of Megatron and a ''Beast Wars'' mini-comic.

:Whether this toy can be considered the Optimus Primal character is a matter of debate. Released before the animated series began, which established Optimus Primal as a separate entity from Optimus Prime, the accompanying profiles and mini-comic seem to assume that the Beast Wars are a progression of the same characters from the Autobot/Decepticon war. Whether the animated series's [[retcon]] affected this set of toys is probably a matter of personal preference. It can be interpreted as representing one of the more interesting micro-continuities.

:The ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' has asserted that, in [[Beast Wars timeline (IDW)|IDW's version of the ''Beast Wars'' continuity]], Primal's bat form was suggested by the ''Axalon''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s computer as a potential alt mode, but he rejected it in favour of the more powerful gorilla without ever actually reformatting into it. Thus, this [[micro-continuity]] posits bat mode Primal as an essentially theoretical alt-form that never actually came to be.

:This mold was also used to make the [[#CDROM|Optimus Prime-recolored Convobat]] (who may or may not be a separate character from either Prime or Primal), and [[Onyx Primal]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/OptimusPrimalBat/optimusprimal.htm More information on Optimus Primal (bat) at TFU.info]''
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[[File:Optimusprimaltoyultraape.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Yes, missiles come out of his butt.]]
* '''Optimus Primal''' (Ultra, 1996/1997/1998)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-1'''
**''Accessories:'' Two swords, four missiles, flail

: The second Optimus Primal toy was an ape in the Ultra size class. Though the transformation from primate to humanoid was a relatively simplistic one, the toy compensated with more than a fair share of weaponry and action features. A compartment on his right forearm opened to reveal a skull-shaped mace he could hold in his fist. His left forearm could open into a double-barreled missile launcher. On his back were two spring-loaded missile launchers which auto-flipped over each shoulder. By pulling a lever in the center of his back, both arms would either spin at the bicep or bend in and out at the elbow, depending on the placement of notch-buttons located on either bicep. This gimmick was shown to be an effort to simulate a gorilla beating its chest while Optimus was in [[beast mode]], but could also be used in robot mode, making him swing his weapons wildly before himself. And finally, like many first-year ''Beast Wars'' toys, a battle mask/"[[mutant head]]" could be deployed over his robot head.

:The European version released in English/Spanish/Italian ''Beast Wars/Biocombat'' packaging featured the additional alternate name "Black Jack" for the Italian market, whereas the ''other'' European version released in French/Dutch/German ''Beast Wars/Ani Mutants'' packaging was simply named "Optimus Primal" just like the United States version.

[[File:Prizeprimals.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|Brass monkeys.]]
:Takara released the toy under the name of "Convoy" as part of their ''Beast Wars'' line in July of 1997, nearly identical to the Hasbro version. The missiles for the Takara version are thinner and simpler than the original Hasbro version, and would be used in all subsequent releases of the sculpt.

:This sculpt was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Optimus Primal and [[Transformers: Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Beast Wars Telemocha Series]] DX Convoy, and [[retool]]ed into ''Beast Wars Reborn''/''Beast Wars Tenth Anniversary'' versus pack Optimus Primal. Takara also created multiple special variants, including all-gold (from ''Tele-V Magazine'', only ten awarded), red and gray (''Tele-V'' again, but only twenty pieces for lucky draw), and blue-fur (a ''[[Comic Bom Bom]]'' design-contest prize, only thirty awarded).

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/OptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Optimus Primal (gorilla) at TFU.info]''
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* '''Special Convoy Real Gray Type''' (Ultra, 1998)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-1'''
**''Accessories:'' Two swords, four missiles, flail

:In January of 1998{{fact}}, Takara released a redeco of the Ultra Optimus Primal toy as '''Special Convoy Real Gray Type''' (スペシャルコンボイ — リアルグレータイプ), changing the black to dark gray and the blue to metallic blue, although the packaging was the same as the original release save for a sticker on the front of the box. According to the sticker, this limited figure was meant to celebrate the "20,000,000 Unit Breakthrough Commemoration"—apparently commemorating ''20 million'' units of Beast Wars toys sold. Whether this was supposed to represent 20 million worldwide or just in Japan is unclear.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/OptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Special Convoy Real Gray Type at TFU.info (scroll down)]''
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* '''Special Convoy Skeleton Type''' (Ultra, 1998?)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-1'''
**''Accessories:'' Two swords, four missiles, flail

: A [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]]-[[exclusive]] redeco of the Ultra figure, '''Special Convoy Skeleton Type''' (スペシャルコンボイ — スケルトンタイプ) was colorless-clear and black with silver paint detailing. The packaging was the same as the general release except for a sticker on the front of the box.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Cybertron/ClearConvoy/clearconvoy.htm More information on Special Convoy Skeleton Type at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BW-toy OptimusPrimalCDROM.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|From Nightwing to Flame<s>bird</s>bat.]]
*'''Amazon Showdown''' (multipack)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''VS-S1'''
**''Accessories:'' Two swords

: Available only in a special CD-ROM two-pack with a [[Megatron (BW)/toys|purple redeco of "Megalligator"]], this version of Optimus Primal (maybe) retains its previous gimmickry. his back features a silver Maximal [[Insignia|faction symbol]] plus "C-ROM", as in "Cybertron", get it? Huh? And Megatron has the "D-ROM"? See what they did there?

: Just what character this toy represents is up for debate. The toy's [[bio]] claims he used to turn into a tractor-trailer (indicating [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]), but considering the timeframe of when they were written and the whole lack of a stance on who Primal "was" before the show and bla bla bla... it's just easier to file this under the same iffiness as the original toy bios set on modern [[Earth]] and leave it at that.

: This sculpt was also used to make [[Onyx Primal]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Cybertron/ConvoyBat/convoybat.htm More information on Convobat at TFU.info]''
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* '''Burning Convoy''' (Ultra)
**''Accessories:'' Two swords, four missiles, flail

:A [[Spontaneous recoloration|clear-red]] redeco of Primal with gold "flame" markings was released as a limited edition figure to promote the ''Beast Wars Special'' movie alongside the Flash Lio Convoy toy.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Cybertron/BurningConvoy/burningconvoy.htm More information on Burning Convoy at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BWMicroversetoy-Primal.jpg|100px|thumb|Seamunky?]]
*'''Orcanoch''' (MicroVerse, 1997)

: Part of the short-lived ''[[MicroVerse]]'' toyline (from before [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] acquisition of rival Galoob and their micro-toy empire), [[Orcanoch]] transforms into a Maximal base. It came with tiny, non-transforming versions of Optimus Primal and [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]. These figures were designed to sit in the various mini-vehicles and control modules of the MicroVerse playsets.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1997/Maximal/Orcanoch/orcanoch.htm More information on Orcanoch (including Optimus Primal figure) at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BWtoy-PrimalTM.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Check out those abs!]]
* '''Optimus Primal''' (Mega Transmetal, 1998)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-40'''
**''Accessories:'' Gun, two clubs/missiles

: [[Transmetal]] Optimus Primal is a mechanical gorilla that transforms into a partially organic robot. Like all Transmetals, it featured chromed plastic and a third vehicle-inspired mode. In Primal's case, his gorilla mode could transform into a gorilla on a [[hoverboard]]. Two maces were stored on his back and could double as missiles for his hip-holstered blaster.

:Continuing a trend from ''Generation 1'' where Italian releases of toys representing the same characters as previous toys released under the same name were sometimes given new names that didn't reflect the Italian market names of those previous releases, the European version released in English/Spanish/Italian ''Beast Wars/Biocombat'' packaging featured the additional alternate name "Metal Gorilla" for the Italian market. Like with the Ultra figure, the ''other'' European version released in French/Dutch/German ''Beast Wars/Ani Mutants'' packaging was simply named "Optimus Primal" just like the United States version.

: Some units feature a chromed purple variant for the Beast Mode chest.

: [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s version of the toy exchanged the brown plastic for translucent maroon; other changes included additional paint on the waist and a different eye color. The figure was also available in a set with Transmetal Megatron.

: This mold was used to make [[Apelinq (BM)|Apelinq]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Maximal/OptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Transmetal Optimus Primal at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BWtoy-OpOp.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|It's really about two modes, not four, if you're honest.]]
* '''Optimal Optimus''' (Super Transmetal, 1998)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-47'''
**''Accessories:'' One gun, four missiles, six break-away armor plates

: Transmetal Optimal Optimus was the first toy in the Super size class, featuring electronics and four transformations: robot, ape, jet, and armored transport. When a back section of the cannon module was pulled, the eyes and shoulder-mounted missile launchers lit up and the launchers fired. It came with four missiles, two of which stored on its legs. Its forearms featured blast-away armor plates that could also be pegged to its upper arms. His cockpit perfectly fits a [[MicroVerse]] figure in the seat.

: Optimal Optimus's on-package [[bio]] states that he has Cybertronian "air guardian" technology and twin scramjet modules. [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]'s function was Air Guardian, and his Tech Specs said he had these same scramjet modules.

: The European version released in English/Spanish/Italian ''Beast Wars/Biocombat'' packaging featured the most bizarre choice for the additional alternate name for the Italian market yet, naming ''this'' figure "Optimus Primal" (!). Once again, the ''other'' European version released in French/Dutch/German ''Beast Wars/Ani Mutants'' packaging was simply named "Optimal Optimus" just like the United States version.

: This sculpt was used to make [[Primal Prime]], and was the model for [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s (non-toy) "Optimal" body, seen in "[[Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future]]".

: The Japanese version features a more yellow shade of orange, different painted details, and notably black tires instead of purple.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Maximal/OptimalOptimus/optimaloptimus.htm More information on Optimal Optimus at TFU.info]''
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===Beast Machines===
[[File:BM-toy OpPrimalDx.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|I am the exact opposite of show-accurate.]]
*'''Optimus Primal''' (Deluxe, 2000)
**''Accessories'': Energy [[shuriken]]

: The first ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' Optimus Primal is a dark bronze and translucent blue technorganic gorilla that transforms into a technorganic robot. His right robot mode arm is spring-loaded to throw the shuriken that stores in his left leg (the ape mode's left shoulder). Like all ''Beast Machines'' toys, he has a hidden "[[spark crystal]]" that displays his faction allegiance; Primal's is in his chest, revealed with the spring-loaded "flexing" motion that also moves his beast mode face up for snarling while posing. His robot mode head also features a changing expression via sliding brow/skullcap.

: Official [[Hasbro]] stock photography of this toy shows a differently-molded shuriken, lacking the "energy flame" effect.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2000/Maximal/OptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Beast Machines Optimus Primal (Deluxe) at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BMtoy-PrimalMcD.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Robot hate the monkey.]]
*'''Optimus Primal''' (Happy Meal toy, 2000)

: McDonald's ''Beast Machines'' Optimus Primal is an incredibly simple toy that transforms from a technorganic robot to technorganic ape. Its sculpted detail is based directly that of the television show's model for Primal. It uses translucent plastic for the body, and, like the other McDonald's ''Beast Machines'' toys, there's a sculpted spark crystal on the toy's surface; on Optimus Primal, it is placed on the stomach. Additionally, there are two organic flaps on the toy's back, and in robot mode, nobody's entirely sure exactly what to do with them. Are they rotated all the way down to make his booster jets? Are they rotated out to the sides to make the backs of his shoulder pads? Are they rotated back to where they go in gorilla mode, once you get his heads swapped? We may never know.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2000/Maximal/McOptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Beast Machines Optimus Primal (McDonald's) at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BMtoy-PrimalMega.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|They will fight eternally!]]
*'''Blast Punch Optimus Primal''' (Mega, 2001)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''BR-01'''
**''Japanese release date:'' '''[[2004]]-[[November 18|11-18]]'''
**''Accessories'': Missile

:One of the last toys released in the ''Beast Machines'' line (under the "Battle for the Spark" rebranding), "Blast Punch" Optimus Primal transforms into a technorganic gorilla more like the show model, though with a considerably brighter color scheme. His main [[gimmick]] is his left arm, which contains a hidden missile launcher.Pushing down on his shoulder armor "winds" the mechanism in his gauntlet. Pushing the spark crystal on his bicep spins his gauntlet around, simultaneously triggering the spring-loaded missile launcher and activating his spring-loaded ramming "blast punch" action, extending his fist forward nearly a full inch. He also has hidden jet thrusters under a panel on his back. In beast mode, a small button on the top of his head pushes his upper face up in a "snarling" action.

:Blast Punch Optimus Primal was released in Japan in 2004 as "Convoy" as part of the ''Beast Wars Returns'' line, exclusive to [[Toys"R"Us]] stores.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2001/Maximal/BlastPunchOptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Blast Punch Optimus Primal at TFU.info]''
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*'''Optimus Primal''' (Jollibee Kids Meal, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' Pen Keeper

: Optimus Primal was available as one of three figures in a Jollibee promotion. The toy is a greatly simplified version of his ''Beast Machines'' Deluxe toy.

===Robots in Disguise (2001)===
[[File:RIDtoy-Suprimal.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|Monkey versus robot!]]
* '''Air Attack Optimus Primal''' (Supreme, 2002)
**''Accessories'': Disc

:Intended for release in the ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' toyline, Air Attack Optimus Primal was eventually released as a [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] [[exclusive]] as part of the ''Robots in Disguise'' toyline. Positively oozing light-and-sound gimmicks in both modes, Optimus Primal does ''all'' sorts'a crazy crap, all of which is first activated by pressing his chest plate. Doing so "turns on" his electronics with a metallic shrieking noise, and the toy proceeds to hum constantly while the chest glows with a red LED. The electronics will eventually "turn off" if the toy is left idle, but you don't want to do that! You want to push his head (in either mode), which activates glowing lights in his eyes and actual speech samples of [[Garry Chalk]] from the ''Beast Machines'' cartoon (making Primal the first English-speaking ''Transformers'' toy to have speech clips performed by his actual cartoon voice actor). On top of that, the toy also features a pressure-launching disc-shooter in its robot mode stomach (accompanied by blasting sound effect), and a geared right arm with a spring-loaded punch action (and suitably pained electronic grunt). The ''big'' feature—the one that gives the toy its name—is his jetpack, which pops out (with translucent blue jet flames trailing behind) at the push of a button. This puts the toy into "flight mode", and it constantly produces the sound of whooshing jets, which then rises and falls depending on how the figure is held. Tilt him upwards, and the pitch rises as he ascends! Tilt him down, and ''zoom!''

:Also, he has a butt on his head.

:The toy's packaging features both an Autobot and Maximal insignia. The Maximal symbol used, however, is the one used during the "Beast Wars" rather than the one from "Beast Machines" this toy was meant to be part of.

: This toy was released in Japan on [[August 8]], 2002 as a ToysЯUs-exclusive "[[USA Edition]]".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Maximal/SupremeOptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Air Attack Optimus Primal at TFU.info]''
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===Universe (2003)===
[[File:Universe2003toy-Primal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Kinda looks like Don Rickles, don't you think?]]
*'''Optimus Primal''' (Ultra, 2003)
**''Accessories:'' Two swords, four missiles, flail

:A redeco of the original Ultra Class Optimus Primal mold, with a color scheme that reflects the "infected" look several other toys were sporting in this line, reflecting the events taking place in-fiction. He retains all weapons and gimmicks of the previous releases of this mold, but with a reworked system for his arm mechanism, making his crazy arm swinging much more controlled.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Autobot/OptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Universe Optimus Primal at TFU.info]''
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===Robotmasters===
[[File:RMtoy-Primal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|There he is, my littler guy.]]
*'''Beast Convoy''' (2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-11'''
**''Accessories:'' Two "Cyber Blades", sword connector, missile launcher, missile

:Part of the second wave of ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)#Toys|Robotmasters]]'' toys, Beast Convoy is a new, more [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] mold primarily based upon the original Ultra Class Optimus Primal figure, and using the original Ultra Class toy's color scheme. The mouthplate features an engraved mouth, although it is painted silver like the rest of the face, and lacks the Mutant Head from the original figure.

:Both forearms contain small, non-firing cannons in them (and thus a skull mace is not included), which can be revealed by flipping up the panels on his arms. Similarly, the missile launchers from the Ultra-class version of the toy have been replaced by non-firing cannons based more closely on the ones from the TV show.

:Beast Convoy features new, open-palmed hands, thus preventing him from holding both of his swords in the same hand, but a small connector-piece is included to connect the swords together, allowing Beast Convoy to hold the lower sword with the upper sword connected.

:Like [[Megatron (BW)/toys#Robotmasters|Beast Megatron]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Robotmasters|G1 Convoy]], Beast Convoy comes with a generic blue missile launcher which can fit in his palm.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/BeastConvoy/beastconvoy.htm More information on Beast Convoy at TFU.info]''
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* '''Burning Beast Convoy''' (2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-21'''
**''Accessories:'' Two "Cyber Blades", missile launcher, missile
:A recolor of ''Beast Convoy'', this toy uses the "Burning Convoy" color scheme from the ''Beast Wars II'' movie from where he partnered with Lio Convoy, turning them into Burning Convoy and Flash Lio Convoy respectively. This release did ''not'' include the tiny sword connector part.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/BurningConvoy/burningconvoy.htm More information on Burning Beast Convoy at TFU.info]''
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*'''Beast Convoy Limited Black Version''' (2005)
**''Accessories:'' Two "Cyber Blades", sword connector, missile launcher, missile, "Boost Hammer"

: Available only via mail order through ''Hobby Japan'' magazine, the "Limited Black Version" of Beast Convoy is just that: a straight [[black repaint]] of the Beast Convoy toy. He comes with all his original accessories, appropriately redecoed, as well as a gold-chromed version of the "[[Boost Hammer]]" [[Solitarium]] weapon that came with [[Wrecker Hook]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Cybertron/HHBeastConvoy/beastconvoy.htm More information on Beast Convoy Limited Black Version at TFU.info]''
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===Beast Wars 10th Anniversary===
[[File:Optimusprimalbwx.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''Surf monkey / That funky monkey'']]
* '''Optimus Primal''' (2006)
**''Accessories:'' Surfboard, assault blade, missile, Jungle Planet Key

[[File:PrimalXsword.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Opposable thumbs!]]
: ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]'' (BWX) Optimus Primal is a new toy design based loosely on his original ultra ape action figure while pulling some elements from other figures, including a transformation very similar to the Playskool Go-Bot [[Beast-Bot|Gorillabot]], which itself was a nod to Optimus Primal's Beast Machines form.

:Similar to his Transmetal form, BWX Optimus Primal also comes with a hoverboard with two [[5mm post]]s at the base, allowing him to ride it in his gorilla mode, or hold it in robot mode via the 5mm posts on his robot palms/gorilla feet. When a [[Cyber Key]] is inserted at the rear of the board, a spring-loaded extending "assault blade" (or "ass lt blade" as the instructions call it) deploys, and a trigger is revealed to allow one to use the spring-loaded missile launcher at the tip. Though it is not intended to be removed, the blade can be popped off and held in Primal's hand thanks to his posable thumbs.

: He is also packaged with a mini-comic-sized reprinting of [[IDW Publishing]]'s ''[[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering|The Gathering]]'' #1, a small [[Axalon (BW)#Toys|''Axalon'']] ship figurine, and a [[Animatron|Jungle Planet]]-style Cyber Key.

:This mold was [[redeco]]ed into ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Gorilla|Optimus Prime]] and [[BotCon 2014]] [[Apelinq (BM)|Apelinq]] & [[Primal Prime]]. The sculpt for both BWX leader toys was intentionally designed to blend in with the Jungle Planet aesthetic, "in case" they didn't get a Beast Wars Anniversary release (according to [[Aaron Archer]]'s statements at [[BotCon 2005]]).

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Maximal/OptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on 10th Anniversary Optimus Primal at TFU.info]''
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* '''Optimus Primal vs Megatron''' (Multi-pack, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Two swords, four missiles, flail

: This ToysЯUs-exclusive set is the Hasbro release of the ''Beast Wars Reborn'' set (see below), but in new packaging with a DVD of the ''Beast Wars'' episode "[[Possession]]". As such, this version of Optimus Primal is identical.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Maximal/TRUOptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Optimus Primal (Toys "R" Us Exclusive) at TFU.info]''
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===Beast Wars Reborn===
[[File:BWReborntoy-Primal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The eighth Optimus of the world... PRIMAL!]]
* '''Convoy vs Megatron''' (Multi-pack, 2006)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BWR-01'''
**''Accessories:'' Two swords, four missiles, flail

:[[File:Optimusprimaltoybwrebornheads.jpg|left|100px|thumb|Staring contest—go!]]

: This release is a [[retool]] of the original 1996 Ultra toy, with new beast and robot heads, plus a new robot chest piece sculpted to match the television series's portrayal. The color scheme was also altered to be show-accurate, changing the black to dark gray, much of the light gray to medium gray with hints of bronze, primary red to crimson, and blue to a more dull steel blue. All of the toy's previous [[gimmick]]s are retained with the sole exception of the "mutant head."

:This figure came packaged with a similarly-remolded [[Megatron (BW)/toys#Beast Wars Reborn|Megatron]] and a [[Golden Disk (disambiguation)|Golden Disk]] CD-ROM that contains control art for a number of ''Beast Wars'' toys.

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===Generation 2===
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[[File:LaserPrime reissue.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Argh TFwiki headache.]]
* '''Battle Convoy''' (Reissue, 2006)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TRF-13'''
**''Accessories:'' Laser rifle, sword, 5 discs, 3 air power missiles, ripple rocket launcher, 10 rockets

{{repurposed|Optimus Primal}}

: In 1995, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Laser Optimus Prime]] was a new-mold [[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' toy]] that transformed into mid-1990s Western Star 4964EX, pulling a grey and black fuel tank trailer. On the sides of the trailer is a humourous sticker depicting Laser Optimus Prime using a flamethrower to burn down a forest, with the words "Optimus Prime Octane" over the image.

:In robot mode, like Hero Optimus Prime, the bottom of the truck became his familiar windowed chest based upon the original Optimus Prime toy. His main gimmick was light up LED headlights, and a [[light-piping|lightpipe]] in the bottom of his right fist, illuminated by an LED in his right forearm, that would illuminate his clear sword or his double-barreled rifle if they were used in that hand. All three LEDs were activated simultaneously by pressing the sunroof-like depression on the roof of the truck.

:The trailer unfolds to form a battle station bristling with many firing weapons. Primarily, it can fire an air-powered missile launcher, a ripple rocket launcher with 5 missiles that can be launched individually (this turret can also be mounted in Laser Prime's hand) and a 'disc launcher', that fired several blue plastic discs adorned with the ''Generation 2'' Autobot sigil. This disc launcher is the only weapon that can be used in [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]].

:This mold was redecoed in 2000 as ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Car Robots]]'' [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]], and slightly retooled as Scourge. After Scourge, the next use of this mold was planned to be ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Toxitron (Universe)|Toxitron]], which ended up being canceled. The slightly retooled version of this mold was released in 2006 in Japan as reissue Battle Convoy, which was the name of this toy during the Japanese ''Generation 2''. The reissue used the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'']] modified tooling, with a slightly modified deco using silver vacuum-metalized plastic on his chest and trailer sides along with additional paint applications and G2 symbols. The mold was also redecoed to create a new G2 version of Ultra Magnus as an [[e-HOBBY]] exclusive (unusual in that the character was killed in the course of Japan's G1 fiction).

:Within the ''[[Beast Wars Reborn]]'' text story, the reissued Laser Prime toy was [[repurposing|repurposed]] as a temporary form for Optimus Primal.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1995/Autobot/OptimusPrime/optimusprime.htm More information on Laser Optimus Prime at TFU.info]''
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===Timelines===
[[File:Timelinestoy-PrimalDoFP.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Trukk munky?]]
* '''Dawn of Future's Past''' (Boxset, [[BotCon 2006]])
**''Accessories:'' Two missiles, Maximal [[Golden Disk (disambiguation)|Golden Disk]] key

:A [[redeco]] and [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' Voyager Class [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)#Toys|Crumplezone]], ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' "''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' Optimus Primal" transforms into a three-wheeled Cybertronic race car with huge turbine thrusters. These thrusters each contain a spring-loaded missile launcher,and can be swung forward in both vehicle and robot mode by plugging a [[Cyber Planet Key]] into his key-jack. This also activates electronic sound effects. He has a new head that replicates Optimus Primal's first [[character model]].

:Available only in a multi pack with the ''Axalon'' versions of [[Cheetor (BW)/toys#Timelines|Cheetor]], [[Rhinox (BW)#Timelines|Rhinox]], and [[Rattrap (BW)/toys#Timelines|Rattrap]], as well as the ''[[Darksyde (BW)|Darksyde]]'' version of [[Dinobot (BW)#Timelines|Dinobot]].
:Some consider this toy somewhat of an in-joke, because when fans initially saw pics of Crumplezone, they criticised it for looking like a monkey.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Maximal/BCOptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Axalon Optimus Primal at TFU.info]''
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===Titanium Series===
[[File:Titanium Optimal Optimus.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Ready? And... Faceplant!]]
* '''Optimal Optimus''' (6" Transformable figure, 2006)
**''Accessories'': Stand with nameplate

:''Titanium Series'' Optimal Optimus transforms from robot into an armored transport. For undetermined reasons, this incarnation of Optimal Optimus does not include the beast mode. This does have precedent in the fiction: When [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] built a copy of that body for himself at the end of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'', his version didn't have a beast mode either. Oddly enough, the two chest cannons can rotate back over his shoulder, while the original Beast Wars figure's cannons were in a fixed position. Amusingly, this toy is denoted as an [[Autobot]] both on his stand and on his shoulder, even though Optimal is a [[Maximal]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Maximal/TitOptimalOptimus/optimusprimal.htm More information on Titanium Series Optimal Optimus at TFU.info]''
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===Binaltech===
[[File:BTBlackConvoy toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|There! He's a trukk! Ya happy now?]]
* '''Black Convoy''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-17'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/blaster

{{Repurposed|Optimus Primal}}

: Black Convoy is the first ''Binaltech'' release since [[Skids (G1)#Alternators/Binaltech|Skids]] in early 2006, and was available exclusively in Japan at the winter Wonder Festival in 2007. His plastic colours are different from Nemesis Prime's, with grey plastic replacing the black on his shins, waist, shoulders, and forearms. In addition, Nemesis Prime's windows are tinted red, but Black Convoy's windows are completely clear. His paint deco is based upon ''Kiss Players'' Convoy's, arranged in the same patterns but using teal, and he has vacuum-metallized wheels and front grill. The paint deco on his head is meant to evoke that of ''Car Robots'' [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]]. Perhaps the most important differences are that he has die-cast metal parts, and most of his truck body panels are coated in gloss black paint.

: Perhaps due to cost-cutting, this toy was released in the large bubble-on-a-tray packaging also used in the ''Alternators'' line. However, he came with no character or packaging art.

: The ''[[Transformers: Alternity|Alternity]]'' fiction [[Repurposing|repurposes]] this figure as a new body for Optimus Primal, based on how Primal's disembodied spark had previously taken possession of Nemesis's body earlier in the ''[[Story of Binaltech|Binaltech]]'' story.
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===Beast Wars Telemocha Series===
[[File:BWTelemocha Convoy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Anyone else feel like we're going in circles?]]
*'''Convoy''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TM-01'''
**''Accessories:'' Two swords
:''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Beast Wars Telemocha Series]]'' Convoy is an extensive redeco of the ''Robotmasters'' Beast Convoy figure in a similar style to the ''Beast Wars Reborn'' retool of the Ultra-class figure.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Cybertron/Convoy/convoy.htm More information on Telemocha Convoy at TFU.info]''
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[[File:BWTelemochaDXPrimal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Seriously, we're getting dizzy!]]
*'''DX Convoy''' (2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TM-SP'''
**''Accessories:'' Two swords, four missiles, flail
:An extensive show-accurate redeco of the original Ultra-class Optimus Primal mold ''without'' the recently remolded head and chestplate. Oh [[TakaraTomy]], you so crazy.

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===United===
[[File:Unitedtoy-OptimusPrimal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Chicks dig hoverboards that turn into giant blasters - right?]]
*'''Optimus Primal''' (Voyager, 2012-[[February 25|02-25]])
**''ID number:'' '''UN-30'''
**''Accessories:'' Surfboard, assault blade, missile, Jungle Planet Key

: Part of the sixth wave of ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' toys, Optimus Primal is a [[repaint]] of the Deluxe-sized ''Beast Wars 10th Anniversary'' Optimus Primal toy, and is the first release of the mold in Japan. He features warmer, more yellowish paint for the gorilla chest and face, and relocates the [[Maximal]] [[insignia]] to the ''underside'' of his gorilla backside [[kibble]] panel. His hoverboard, meanwhile, uses a darker shade of blue paint for the Cyber Key jack, and the front of the hoverboard features both the "stripes" from [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys#Gorilla|the ''Cybertron'' redeco]] of this toy, and the fully-painted vents from the "10th Anniversary" version.

:He is [[Packaging|packaged]] in a Voyager Class box with "LIMITED QUANTITY" [[sticker]]ed on the window. Both his [[instructions]] and packaging brand him as an [[Autobot]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/UnitedOptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on ''United'' Optimus Primal at TFU.info]''

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===Legend Commander Collection===
[[File:Legend-Commander-Collection-LC-02-Optimus-Primal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
*'''Convoy (Beast Wars)''' (2014)
**''ID number'': '''LC-02'''
**''Accessories'': Two swords
: Part of the ''[[Legend Commander Collection]]'' sold at [[Transformers Expo]], Convoy (Beast Wars) is a redeco of ''Robotmasters'' Beast Convoy. The toy also features several deco differences: While the paint applications were similar to the first ''Robotmasters'' Beast Convoy toy, the mouth was painted blue like the ''Telemocha'' Convoy, the white paint uses on this toy are brighter white compared to the first toy, some of the Robot Mode's chest detailing features lavender white paint details, and the gunmetal paint were used for the Beast Mode face.

:Remaining stock of the toy was sold through [[TakaraTomy Mall]].

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===Legends===
[[File:TakaraLegends Lg02 Convoy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|No guys. Guys....guys. This is ''way'' better than a new Generations mold. No guys. Guys. Trust me.]]
* '''Convoy/Optimus Primal<ref>LG02 Convoy's packaging</ref>''' (Ultra, 2014-[[October 25|10-25]])
**''ID number:'' '''LG02'''
**''Accessories:'' Two swords, four missiles, flail

:''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Convoy is a redeco of the ''Beast Wars Reborn'' retool of the original Optimus Primal toy. He comes with a leaflet featuring a character profile, tech specs and [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 2|volume 2]] of the ''[[Transformers Legends (comic)|Transformers Legends]] Comic: Bonus Edition'' mini-comic.

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===Platinum Edition===
[[File:Transformers-Platinum-Edition-BM-Optimus-Primal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Probably not as fun as a barrel of munkies.]]
* '''Optimus Primal''' (Year of the Monkey exclusive, 2016)
** ''Accessories'': Disc
:Sold at a rather expensive price of $140.00, ''Platinum Edition'' "Year of the [[Trukk not munky|Monkey]]" Optimus Primal is a redeco of [[Optimus_Primal/toys#Robots_in_Disguise_.282001.29|''Robots in Disguise'' Air Attack Optimus Primal]], with his coloration inspired by either an amalgamation of [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Primes]] and/or [[Primal Prime]]. He retains all the electronic gimmicks from the previous toy, with an exception of the voice clips (unfortunately, only the line "Optimus Primal" was played.) and sound effects, which was newly recorded.

:His current stock photos were mistransformed: both of his robot and beast mode's chests were inverted, and his beast mode's thumbs were not rotated.

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===Masterpiece===
[[File:BW-Masterpiece-MP32-Optimus-Primal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Best munky ever.]]
*'''Convoy (Beast Wars)''' (2016-[[October 29|10-29]])
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''MP-32'''
**''Accessories'': Three Apes faces, three bot faces, two swords, skull flail (Asia exclusive)
:Released to celebrate ''Beast Wars'''s 20th anniversary, ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' Convoy is a faithful recreation of the character based on the original character model from the cartoon.

:He comes with two swords like the original toy which can be stored on his back, but he also haves cartoon-accurate flip-out blasters coming out from his wrists and the sides of his head. He also has three gorilla faces (frowning, smiling and angry) and three robot faces (closed faceplate, open faceplate and smiling and open faceplate and frowning).

:If bought in Asian countries outside of Japan, he also comes with a die-cast skull flail based on the one that came with the original toy. It comes packaged into a cardboard box designed to look like a crate of bananas.
[[File:TF-Masterpiece-MP32-Asia-exclusive-skull-flail.jpg|left|100px|thumb|It's a lost art of weaponry.]]
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==Merchandise==
*'''Beast Wars Transformers Slide Puzzle''' (1996)
:Released to advertise Beast War's airing in Japan, a small, hand-held slide-puzzle depicting Optimus Primal in robot mode, brandishing a sword, one arm cannon deployed, and looking very dynamic.
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[[File:Optimusprimalmutatingcard.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
* '''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''' (1997)
:Optimus Primal was one of the 24 beast warriors to receive a battle card representation for the Beast Wars [[Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game|card game]].
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* '''Beast Wars Transformers Sneakers''' (1997)
: A pair of red, black and white sneakers, with the ''Beast Wars'' logo printed on the sole, a photo of Primal's beast mode head on the toe, and the name "OPTIMUS PRIMAL" repeated around the shoe's lateral.

===Beast Wars Choco===
[[File:BWchoco primal.jpg|thumb]]
*'''Convoy vs Megatron''' (candy toy, 1997)
**''ID number:'' '''1'''

:Part of [[Kabaya]]'s ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Choco|Beast Wars Choco]]'' line of [[candy toy]]s, this small soft-rubber figurine of Optimus Primal—known in Japan as a ''keshigomu''—came in a set with a similar figure of Megatron, along with a bio card and candy-covered chocolates. The figures were available in either translucent purple or smoky grey rubber.

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===Beast Wars Gum===
[[File:Bwgum primal.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Little Apetimus Prime]]
*'''Convoy''' (candy toy, 1997)
**''ID number:'' '''1'''
**''Accessories:'' Mace, two swords
:A snap together model kit of Optimus Primal was available as part of [[Kabaya]]'s ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Gum|Beast Wars Gum]]'' line of [[candy toy]]s. Based on his original Ultra-class gorilla toy, the kit was sculpted from purple and black plastic with some sparse stickers for details, and could transform from robot to beast mode by being broken down into its component parts, then rebuilt into a new mode. It came with a stick of gum.
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===Beast Wars Ramune===
* '''Convoy''' (1997)
: A nontransformable figurine of bat-body Primal, sculpted in a sword-wielding action pose across a blue base. Figure is painted.

* '''Convoy''' (candy toy, 1997)

: A tiny plastic Convoy figurine in his gorilla body and molded onto an irregularly-shaped stand was released by Kabaya. Labeled toy 1 of 6, the other characters in his wave were Dinobot, Rattrap, Megatron, Cheetor, and Rhinox. As always, terrible candy is included.

===Hyper Beast Wars Choco===
* '''Transmetal Convoy''' (1999, Standard Kit)
: Another small transformable figure was based on his first Transmetal body. It was multicolored and also came with gum.

===Metallic Beast Ramune===
* '''Transmetal Convoy''' (1999, Standard Kit)
: A second, but non-transformable figure of Transmetal Optimus Primal was made in clear plastic, blue, and gray. Gum!
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===Metal Monument===
[[File:Metalmonumentconvoy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Hungh!]]
* '''Metal Monument Convoy''' (TAKARA, 1999)

: As the name suggests, the product is a [[die-cast]] statue of Optimus Primal. The head is convertible/removable in order to change the normal one with the battle mask/mutant head. The [[box art]] and the design of the product are both done by [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]].

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===Titanium Series===
[[File:TitaniumSeries-Primal3inch.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|This Primal wasn't built—it was ''poured!'']]
* '''Optimus Primal''' (3" Robot Master figurine, 2006)
**''Accessories'': Stand
:This 3-inch die-cast and plastic figurine of Optimus Primal features him in his ''Beast Wars'' season 1 appearance, with swords drawn in an action pose. He came with an [[Autobot]] figure stand, weirdly enough.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Maximal/TitOptimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Titanium Series Optimus Primal at TFU.info]''
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===3D Battle-Card Game===
*'''Optimus Primal''' (2007)
[[File:3DBattleCard-OptimusPrimal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|All your favorite 3D action!]]
: A 52-point "rare" character in the [[3D Battle-Card Game|3D Battle-Card Game's]] "Energon Wars" expansion, Optimus Primal "transforms" into a black ape. He uses the same parts layout as [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]], [[Ravage (G1)/toys|Ravage]], and [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]], although the figure's beast mode is assembled differently. Optimus Primal is nominally the leader of the Autobots in the set. The surface of the figure uses images of the original Ultra ape toy.

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===Robot Heroes===
====Beast Wars Series====
[[File:Robotheroestarantulasprimal.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Primal mocks Tarantulas's inability to display jazz hands.]]
*'''Optimus Primal''' / '''Predacon Tarantulas''' (2008)
: Part of the second wave of ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]], this PVC figurine of Optimus Primal's original gorilla body has articulation in the shoulders and neck. He was available only in a "Beast Wars Series" two-pack with [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] (amusingly enough, the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] he also came with in the ''[[MicroVerse]]'' [[Orcanoch]] playset).
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Maximal/RHOprimusPrimal/optimusprimal.htm More information on Robot Heroes Optimus Primal at TFU.info]''

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====Beast Machines Series====
[[File:Robot heroes primal jetstorm.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The next Bio-Force Ape? Only time will tell.]]
*'''Optimus Primal vs. Jetstorm''' (2009)
:*''Series:'' Beast Machines Series

:Optimus Primal would have come with [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] in this set. Like the other later [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] waves, this toy was cancelled because retailers only wanted ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' toys. Some managed to trickle out into the wild - the picture seen here comes from an eBay auction. He looks... Unhinged, to say the least.
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==Notes==
* The design of Optimus Primal's bat form is an [[homage]] to [[Batman]], an action figure license also held at the time by [[Kenner]].<ref>Page 78, Toy database section in ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]''</ref>
* According to Bob Forward at a BotCon panel, the "Flight Mode" Primal has in first season of the ''Beast Wars'' animation is a vestigial reference to the bat-form, the concept being that Primal and Megatron would each have had 4(!) modes, able to transform freely between them. This was ultimately considered too difficult to animate, and the concept was dropped, Primal's "Prime Jets" being a way to prevent re-writing the flight-related parts of the scripts.
* Primal's gorilla mode, paired against [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s ''T.rex'' mode, was inspired by the showdown in the film ''[[King Kong]]''.<ref>[http://obscuretf.com/hhk/BC04interviews.html Botcon 2004 Interview with Vinnie D'Alleva], p2</ref>
* According to the control art of Optimus Primal's toy, his chest originally seemed to be a kind of launcher instead of being an homage to the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]].<ref>Page 50, Toy database section in ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]''</ref>

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:''Rattrap is a [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Rattrap-S1.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He's like Bugs Bunny if he were a rat. And a robot. And had more lethal weapons than a Die Hard movie.]]

It's not so much that '''Rattrap''' is a coward... he just doesn't want to die. He's seen enough battles to know the score, so he's not afraid to tell his commanding officer to shove it if he's not fond of the odds. He prefers to sneak around unseen, in gutters or trenches or trash barges or what have you—whatever keeps him out of harm's way. He shouldn't be so worried. When he does encounter conflict, he deals with it masterfully with the arsenal of guns and bombs he keeps on himself at all times. He feels naked without them.

Of course, it's hard to like Rattrap, especially if you're his commanding officer, because he's sarcastic, irreverent and rude. Plus he doesn't exactly smell the greatest, what with the whole garbage-eating thing. He's also not the most trusting or forgiving sort, so he's not the best choice to take on a diplomatic run. He'd sooner shoot a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] or [[Decepticon]] than talk to them. Despite his tough-as-nails attitude, he has a [[Transformer romance|strong affection]] for his fellow Maximal [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]].

{{quote|Y'know, I feel just ''heaps'' better knowing that our lives are in your ''capable'' hands. [sighs] ''We're all gonna die.''|Rattrap lays on the sarcasm|"[[Beast Wars (Part 1)]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Toy bio===
Rattrap was a highly respected, top-notch soldier who was used mostly for reconnaissance, continually prowling the city streets for any Predacon activities. In order to keep up his strength, he was always eating "grunge and grime and any wretched refuse he may encounter along the way." Eeeeewwww... {{storylink|#Toys|Rattrap bio}}

===''Beast Wars'' cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English), [[Kappei Yamaguchi]] (Japanese)|[[Teng Kuixing]] (Chinese), [[Pierre Laurent]] (French), [[Robert Missler]] (German), [[Claudio Moneta]] (Italian), [[Hwan Jin Kim]] (Korean), [[Orlando Viggiani]] (Portuguese), [[Paulo Porto]] (Portuguese, in some episodes), [[Martín María Soto Portilla|Martín Soto]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Jesús Rodríguez (Rolo)]] (Castilian Spanish)}}

He was the best miner in the [[Vespa System]]. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}}

[[File:BWPart1 coverfire.jpg|upright=1.3|thumb|That's what friends are for!]]
After following the Predacons through a transwarp portal and appearing above a mysterious planet, both ships were damaged in the ensuing space battle, and before both ships crashed into the planet's surface below, the [[stasis pod]]s carrying the rest of Rattrap's crew were ejected into orbit.

The planet was rich with [[energon]]—so much so that prolonged exposure would short out their bodies. The Maximals and Predacons were forced to take organic forms from the local creatures; Rattrap took the form of a ([[Scale|very oversized]]) rat, and was dismayed to find that they were going to have to use the disguises to avoid the energon radiation. Forced into battle, he refused [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]]'s order to rescue [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] on the grounds he'd get shot up. When Optimus went to do the job himself, [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] had to hold up Rattrap to get the rat to provide covering fire. Afterwards, Rattrap was unrepentant, pointing out that they'd all come out of it alive.

[[File:BeastWars2 Dinobot Rattrap glaring.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|How's the weather up there?]]
On the way back to base, the Maximals ran into the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] who challenged Primal to a fight over leadership. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}} Rattrap objected to Primal's decision to subsequently let Dinobot join their group, accusing Dinobot of trying to kill Rhinox when the Predacon accidentally caused a rock fall. Primal had some harsh words with him. During a battle atop a mountain laced with energon, Rattrap found himself having a [[beast mode]] fight against [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}}

After Cheetor got himself blasted by Scorponok and got Rhinox's new comlink trashed, Rattrap didn't hesitate to mock the cat for his mistakes. When Cheetor ran off to fix it, though, Rattrap found himself going after him to stop him from doing anything stupid - which failed miserably, as Cheetor was captured by Tarantulas long before Rattrap reached him. The rat and the spider engaged in a heated duel in Tarantulas' underground lair, with Rattrap gaining the upper hand by using a heat box to fool the spider's thermal scanner. After rescuing Cheetor, Rattrap gave an alibi to Optimus about their whereabouts, but then chewed out the cat for almost getting them both scrapped. He left to munch some garbage, but earned a new friend when Cheetor thanked him for saving his life. {{storylink|The Web}}

During an energon storm, Rattrap tried fruitlessly to raise Optimus, only for their leader to arrive and scrub the mission Cheetor was due to go out on. At least this time it was Dinobot who goaded Cheetor into going out, but all of the Maximals were later thanking the cat for saving their lives later on. {{storylink|Equal Measures}} When Optimus went semi-missing in action, swallowed by a [[Vok probe|alien probe]], Rattrap objected strenuously to Dinobot nominating himself as new leader. A vote was left stalemated until Optimus managed to get a signal to the base and named Rattrap group commander in his absence. After a moment of initial indecision, Rattrap commanded capably while Primal was missing (even earning Dinobot's grudging respect). When Primal returned, he offered his compliments as well. Rattrap's response: "Eh, command's a pain in the tail, especially with this pack of hyenas. You can keep it!" {{storylink|Chain of Command (BW)|Chain of Command}}

Over time, Rattrap grew to respect his commander grudgingly, with the earliest glimmers showing through when Primal and Rattrap infiltrated a flying mountain that was loaded with supercharged Energon. Primal bravely distracted a super-powered Terrorsaur while Rattrap planted explosives to destroy the mountain (and had a brief tussle with Tarantulas). Optimus then got them both off of the exploding mountain with a fearless beast mode leap off the edge, which ended with them dangling in the treetops far below. Rattrap commented that Primal "did pretty good up there—but don't tell anyone I said so." {{storylink|Power Surge (episode)|Power Surge}} Rattrap was a member of the party sent out to attempt to capture a stasis pod after Optimus Primal was taken out as soon as he left the base. The group was cut off from the pod when [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] and Terrorsaur took out a snow bridge, and Rattrap radioed base to break the bad news. Fortunately Dinobot and Primal were able to set up a transmitter, and by the time Rattrap and the others got to the pod, the [[protoform]] inside had already been reformatted into [[Tigatron]], who was able to help them fight the Predacons off. {{storylink|Fallen Comrades}}

[[File:TerrorsaurcagedRT.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Despite all of Terrorsaur's rage, Rattrap is still just a rat in a cage.]]
Suspicious of why the Predacons had managed to ambush three straight Maximal operations, Optimus sent Rattrap on an undercover mission into the ''[[Darksyde (BW)|Darksyde]]'', under the guise of not trusting Rattrap and him defecting to the Predacons. Captured by Terrorsaur as part of the mission, Rattrap pleaded his loyalty to him and was taken to the base, where he knocked out [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] with a transformation-disabling device, allowing Terrorsaur to seize power. After he was locked in the lower chambers and Megatron made his escape, Rattrap broke out and continued his mission, discovering that the Predacons had acquired a Maximal decoder chip which allowed them to hack the Maximals' communications. He was almost caught by Tarantulas but disabled him and signaled Optimus, who attacked the Predacon base with the other Maximals. In the firefight, Rattrap was forced to fire on Optimus, blasting him from the sky and seemingly confirming his traitorous ways. Dinobot almost destroyed him, but two timely breaks allowed Rattrap and the Maximals to escape. Back on the ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'', Optimus congratulated Rattrap on a job well done, adding that he didn't need to make his "defection" that believable (as he rubbed where Rattrap had shot him). Rattrap's response was "Eh, what can I say? I was trying to miss." {{storylink|Double Jeopardy}}

[[File:Coc getshorty.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|"Frenzy is red!" "Maximal lies!"]]
Rattrap distrusted Dinobot and insulted him at every turn. Dinobot wantonly returned in kind, constantly bickering with the "vermin". Dinobot and Rattrap's arguments ranged from being a minor irritation at times to causing serious chaos in the Maximal ranks at others. Rattrap's taunts caused a berserk Dinobot to damage the control module of the newly activated Sentinel defense system, which promptly drove the Maximals out of their own base. Under the circumstances, Rattrap's rarely seen sense of nobility and fair play came to the fore; recognizing the predicament as his own fault, he immediately volunteered to stay inside the base and deactivate Sentinel. His considerable skills at infiltration and demolition allowed him to reach the central computer core and order Sentinel to stand down, though very nearly at the cost of his own life. {{storylink|A Better Mousetrap}}

When Primal was hit by one of [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]]'s [[Cyberbee]]s, injecting a virus and turning Primal into a berserker, Rattrap unexpectedly became the voice of reason, telling Cheetor and Dinobot to settle down. He objected to Dinobot's idea to set their enraged leader on the Predacons, but it became academic when Primal escaped and headed for the ''Darksyde'' anyway. Rattrap and the other Maximals provided cover fire for Cheetor, as the young Maximal mounted a rescue. {{storylink|Gorilla Warfare}} During an attempt by the Maximals to build a communications tower to contact a [[temporal probe]], which the [[Maximal High Council]] had sent to search for the ''Axalon'', Rattrap managed to save Dinobot's life by blasting [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] over a cliff. Unfortunately he was promptly hit by the same [[Transformation Lock Lens]] which had disabled Dinobot's [[robot mode]]. Ultimately the tower was destroyed by Megatron. {{storylink|The Probe}}

[[File:Victory Megatron crushes Rattrap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|[[Rubber Ducky]] isn't his ''only'' squeaky toy.]]
Rattrap planted a spy cam in the ''Darksyde'', and the Maximals were surprised to watch the Predacons apparently manage to blow themselves up. He proceeded to try to push as many of Dinobot's buttons as possible, but without getting a rise. The Maximals managed to salvage enough to get their own ship working. As Rattrap was telling Tigatron about a "sweet little hole-in-the-wall", it was revealed that the Predacons weren't slagged after all. Megatron managed to get on board and blasted everyone but Rattrap, attempting to crush the Maximal with his bare hands (or at least his beast mode jaws). Fortunately Rhinox came around in time to come to Rattrap's rescue, though the ship still crashed. Afterwards, Rattrap and Dinobot resumed their usual bickering. {{storylink|Victory (episode)|Victory}}

After Rhinox was captured by the Predacons, Rattrap managed to tap into his friend's comlink, and the Maximals listened in horror as Rhinox was converted into a Predacon by Megatron's [[Transmuter (BW)|Transmuter]]. Though Rattrap was determined that they should go in there immediately, Primal held them back, allowing the evil-ized Rhinox to wreak havoc in the Predacon base. {{storylink|Dark Designs}} Tricked by a [[Clone One|clone of Dinobot]], Primal sent Rattrap with the clone to investigate a possible Predacon base. Instead, while Rattrap was crossing a log over a lava flow, the clone kicked the log out from under him. Rattrap survived, landing on a rock and using a grenade to get himself out of the chasm. He swiftly warned Primal and Cheetor, but by the time they reached base, Dinobot had already... dealt with the clone. {{storylink|Double Dinobot}}

[[File:The Trigger Rattrap optimus.jpg|left|upright=1.3|thumb|You call it "hi-jacking". I call it "forced donation".]]
Rattrap and the other Maximals later welcomed [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] to the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]]. {{storylink|The Spark}} During a contact with Tigatron, Rattrap was alarmed to hear his comrade was under Predacon attack. After news came in by Cyberbee that Tigatron had discovered an alien-built [[Brigadoon|flying island]], the Maximals were alarmed to hear that Blackarachnia and Scorponok were trying to take control of it. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}} Rattrap and Primal headed for the island, tangling with Terrorsaur and Waspinator on the way, Rattrap commandeering Terrorsaur as his new ride. After they reached the island, Blackarachnia took control of it. Rattrap's leg became trapped, and he told Tigatron to go on, dealing with the problem himself by using the island's own defense system. This also provided a crucial distraction, allowing Tigatron to destroy the island's power source. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 2}}

Megatron's latest gambit involved the Predacons stealing the ''Axalon''<nowiki>'</nowiki> [[rectifier coil]], forcing the Maximals to remain in their beast modes at all time. The Maximals soon succumbed to their base animal insincts, wandering out into the jungle, but were aided by Tigatron, who helped them to delete the block between their instincts and Maximal programming. Rhinox and Rattrap improvised a ratball special during the ensuing battle. {{storylink|Call of the Wild}}

Rattrap was part of the group of Maximals who were searching for energon when Scorponok triggered an explosion, blinding them all. Lead by Rhinox, they attempted to make their way back to the ''Axalon'', but were attacked by a snake. Though Rattrap failed to rescue Cheetor, he did manage to save his companion in a way, by proving a more attractive meal. Luckily for him, Rhinox got rid of the snake. They continued on, managing to nearly reach the Maximal base when they came under attack by Terrorsaur and Waspinator. Rhinox was able to guide the other Maximals in fighting the Predacons off while blinded. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}} After a violent storm damaged the Maximal base, making it vulnerable, the Predacons mounted an attack with the help of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], who had possessed Waspinator's body. The Predacons triumphed, expelling the Maximals into the wilderness, however the Predacon occupation didn't last long, as internal conflict in their ranks allowed the Maximals to retake their base. {{storylink|Possession}}

[[File:Low Road Rattrap Dinobot fight.jpg|thumb|upright=1.3|YOU THERE! STFU!]]
Another costly incident resulted when Rattrap and Dinobot were ordered to clear rampant wild bean vines growing outside the Maximal base. A prank by Rattrap quickly turned into a brawl between the two. Their struggle continued even when the Predacons launched a sneak attack, requiring Rhinox to exit the base to provide covering fire for them. Tarantulas used the distraction to inject Rhinox with an [[energon discharge virus]], which eventually wore down his systems to the point of near-deactivation. Primal ordered Rattrap and Dinobot to find Tarantulas's lair and retrieve an antidote, commenting: "They'll either learn to work together or they'll destroy each other...right now, I don't care which." Despite continuing their argument the whole time, Rattrap and Dinobot managed to find [[Tarantulas's lair]], and retrieve the counter-virus. {{storylink|The Low Road}}

After Megatron called for a truce, Rattrap was sent with Airazor to infiltrate the ''Darksyde'' to find out what was going on. They were immediately detected and asked to leave, but they'd provided the necessary distraction for Tigatron to get into the Predacon base. Rattrap later took part in a (non-violent) operation to aid Tigatron's escape, and Tigatron reported that Megatron had discovered that the aliens were coming. {{storylink|Before the Storm}} Rattrap and Airazor were first to reach the alien landing site, but Rattrap was blasted, while Airazor became trapped in the [[Bio-Dome|"nutty alien bungalow"]] which sprouted up. After dealing with Waspinator in a not at all non-violent manner, Rattrap attempted to cut into the structure using a laser, but was unsuccessful. fortunately Scorponok's sting allowed him to enter the construct with Optimus, and he was able to pull Airazor out, only to find the truce was over and he was at Predacon gunpoint.

[[File:OtherVoices1 Rattrap beast mode.jpg|thumb|left|RataTOING!!!]]
Rattrap and Airazor were subsequently able to overpower the Predacons and make a retreat when Optimus's escape from the bungalow provided a distraction. High above, one of the moons opened up, revealing what Rattrap would later dub the "[[Planet Buster]]". {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}} Returning to base, the Maximals discovered it had been compromised, and Rattrap and Airazor found Blackarachnia in the hold with a spacecraft Tarantulas had constructed from a stasis pod. Optimus would later pilot the stasis pod, using it to destroy the Planet Buster and save the Maximals, though at the cost of his own life. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}}

The destruction of the Planet Buster caused a [[quantum surge]], mutating Cheetor and Rattrap into new [[Transmetal]] forms (which Rattrap decided were "gorgeous"). Rattrap gained a new wheeled mode which afforded him more speed. Almost immediately, Megatron, who had also received an upgrade, attacked, and the two Maximals found their new forms being tested in battle. Rattrap was able to use his wiles to trip Megatron, but ended up being crashed into by Cheetor. {{storylink|Aftermath}} After finding a stasis pod containing a [[blank]], Rhinox put himself into some sort of trance-like state. With everyone else out in the field, Rattrap was left alone in the base, and Cheetor naturally soon radioed to warn him that the Predacons were on their way. Naturally any use of the base defenses would interfere with what Rhinox was doing, so, joined by Dinobot, Rattrap set out to defend the base with Cheetor. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}}

[[File:Coming of the Fuzors 2 Dinobot Rattrap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|They should make a kart game for the Wii out of this scene.]]
Outnumbered two to one, the trio fought on, capturing [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]], one of the two [[Fuzor]]s who had revived and been co-opted into the Predacon forces by Megatron. Though Dinobot favored termination, Rattrap and Cheetor had Silverbolt put in a [[CR chamber]]. The Maximals continued to defend the base, and were on the verge of defeat, until Optimal Primal appeared, reborn in a Transmetal body, and fought the Predacons off. Resuming command, Optimus asked Rattrap to remove his junk from the commander's quarters. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}}

With Silverbolt now a Maximal, he and Rattrap were out patrolling when they were sent to investigate a Predacon signal and tangled with Blackarachnia, Tarantulas and [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]]. To Rattrap's chagrin, his comrade refused to strike Blackarachnia because of her gender. When the cave the Predacons were protecting exploded, Rattrap congratulated Silverbolt on his shot, but Silverbolt denied doing anything. {{storylink|Tangled Web}}

Rattrap's relationship with Dinobot was sorely tested when Dinobot temporarily returned to the Predacon side. For one long moment, as Dinobot was faced with a test of Predacon loyalty at Megatron's behest, Rattrap truly believed that Dinobot was about to slag him. But Dinobot proved unable to kill his erstwhile teammate; he instead turned on Megatron. Optimus left the final decision over whether Dinobot could stay a Maximal to Rattrap, who reluctantly agreed. {{storylink|Maximal, No More}}

[[File:OtherVisits2 Rattrap with gun.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1|Showing a surprising distate for color clashing, Rattrap repainted his gun when he became a [[Transmetal]].]]
Rattrap and Dinobot were assigned to knock out a Predacon jamming tower. They eventually managed it, but by then Tigatron and Airazor had been shot into space by an alien device. After rendezvousing back at base, the Maximals headed out to the site, where the alien device sprouted into a huge [[Metal Hunter|construct]] and blasted everyone with an energy wave. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 1)}} The Transmetals and Fuzors recovered quickly, and Primal and Rattrap worked to drop the [[refractive web]] which Tarantulas had placed over the machine. Unfortunately they were too late to prevent Megatron taking control of ship, and Primal was taken prisoner. Rattrap was able to take Tarantulas captive, returning the Predacon to the ''Axalon'', where they formulated a plan of attack. While the other Maximals provided a distraction, Tarantulas and Rattrap got on board the ship, and Rattrap was able to rescue Optimus. The craft itself was destroyed when Tarantulas sabotaged the transwarp drive, but luckily Primal and Rattrap got clear in time. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 2)}}

[[File:CodeofHero Rattrap salutes.jpg|thumb|upright=1.45|Like I said, you're just a blasted, slag-spouting saurian, but... it's nice to know where ya stand.]]
Rattrap still give Dinobot grief about his recent betrayal—not the usual flippant insults, either, but genuine barbs that cut Dinobot to the quick. Rattrap's words helped motivate Dinobot into what would ultimately be his heroic final sacrifice to save the future of the human race. Rattrap arrived at the battlefield along with the other Maximals to find Dinobot damaged beyond recovery. His reaction was perhaps the strongest of any of the team. The two shared final words of both insult and reconciliation, Rattrap gingerly holding Dinobot's hand as he died. As Dinobot's spark left his body, Rattrap was the first to stand and, with utter sincerity, salute the fallen hero. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}

While searching for a jamming tower, Rattrap, Cheetor and Silverbolt discovered a crashed stasis pod containing a [[Transmutate (character)|strangely mutated Transformer]]. As they fought the Predacons over, it, it let out a sonic cry which shorted out the Maximals. {{storylink|Transmutate (episode)|Transmutate}}

[[File:Rattrap-slimpickins5.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Rattrap fights to prevent Predacon infiltration, subversion, and pollution of the Maximals' precious bodily fluids.]]
When Rhinox's calculations suggested that the [[transwarp wavefront]] from the Planet Buster explosion would soon be detected by [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], the Maximals celebrated their impending rescue. Instead they got Predacon secret agent [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], who Rattrap trusted only slightly less than he initially did Dinobot. Despite his misgivings, Rattrap took part in the assault on the ''Darksyde'', and was present for Megatron's apprehension. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 1)}} Rattrap raised the alarm when Cheetor was knocked out by Silverbolt, who wanted to go capture Blackarachnia himself. A while later, Rattrap's distrust of Ravage proved well founded — Ravage was turned against them by Megatron, and Rattrap had to radio a warning to Primal. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part 2)}}

As Ravage's [[Transwarp cruiser]] attacked the ''Axalon'', Rattrap used his wheeled beast mode to launch himself out of the base and onto Ravage's ship. Tearing his way through its hull, he tossed a pair of [[Fusion weaponry#Fusion grenade|fusion grenade]]s right into the hands of the startled Tarantulas, who could do nothing but scream as they blew him to bits and destroyed the cruiser's engines. Rattrap bailed out as the Transwarp cruiser crashed its destructive way to earth, having pretty much single-handedly saved the Maximals and their base from destruction.

The next day, as the Maximals tried to infiltrate the Autobot vessel the Ark, Rattrap fired the shot that brought down the Ark's shields and—almost—gave the Maximals a chance to stop Megatron's last-ditch scheme to alter history. {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}}

Though Blackarachnia turned against Megatron and assisted the Maximals in starting to repair the damage Megatron had done to [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], Rattrap was not particularly sympathetic, threatening to shoot her, even on pain of injury by Silverbolt. When Optimus hesitated in shooting Megatron, Rattrap volunteered to do it himself, and Primal batted him aside. Later still, Rattrap spared no sarcasm in mocking Silverbolt, after the other Maximal gave a long melodramatic speech over Blackarachnia, offering the services of his invisible violin. The Maximals were forced to move in to the cavern housing the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] after [[Rampage (G1)|Rampage]] destroyed the ''Axalon''. {{storylink|Optimal Situation}}

[[File:Rattrap-subaquatic2.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"Scientist, super spy, gardener, construction worker, and now marine explorer. Maybe I should try tap dancing."]]
Rattrap wasn't impressed with new arrival [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]], declaring him rude and joking the Predacons would make fish sticks out of him. {{storylink|Deep Metal}} Rattrap was picked for a mission to enter the submerged remains of the ''Axalon'' and retrieve Sentinel, mostly because he was the only one small enough to fit in the [[subaquatic stealth vessel]] which Blackarachnia had built. Attacked by Rampage, he was glad to see Depth Charge coming to the rescue, though Depth Charge was more interested in fighting Rampage than helping with the mission. Extracting the Sentinel module, Rattrap returned to the surface where Silverbolt was waiting, however the pair quickly ran into a group of Predacons whole stole Sentinel. Though Rattrap and Silverbolt got it back, they collided with Depth Charge, resulting in Sentinel falling into [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]]'s hands. Rattrap later had some uncomplimentary things to say about Depth Charge, but was forced to admit the other Maximal ''had'' saved his life. {{storylink|Changing of the Guard}}

Rattrap's suspicions of Blackarachnia continued when he spotted her lurking around restricted areas. When later telling Rhinox about it, Rattrap made it clear he still didn't trust the ex-Predacon. He and Rhinox found themselves defending the base alone against a Predacon incursion, when the others were all out battling a group of [[Cyber raptor]]s. Just as it seemed the Predacons would triumph, Depth Charge arrived to lend a hand, and saved Rattrap's bacon. {{storylink|Cutting Edge}} Rattrap monitored Cheetor, after the latter had turned up, having been missing presumed killed. He was startled by noises coming from Cheetor's quarters, and was even more shocked when a strange feral beast burst through the door, apparently spiriting away Cheetor. A while later, Cheetor once again returned, but it was clear all wasn't right, and Rattrap was surprised to discover that the young bot had been mutated by the strange properties of the [[transmetal driver]]. {{storylink|Feral Scream Part 2}}

Blackarachnia didn't appreciate Rattrap's insinuations about her loyalty when the Maximals were investigating the possibility of removing her Predacon shell program. His suspicions were seemingly confirmed a while later, when Silverbolt's scan detected Blackarachnia heading for Predacon territory. Although Rattrap's first instinct was to tell Optimus, Silverbolt managed to talk him out of it by bringing up Rattrap's friendship with Dinobot. {{storylink|Proving Grounds}}

[[File:Go with the Flow Rattrap Una.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|left]]
Rattrap was amused by Cheetor's attempts to educate [[Chak]] and [[Una]], two young [[Protohuman]]s. When Una was kidnapped by the Preds in order to complete Megatron's [[disruptor cannon]], Rattrap was teamed up with Depth Charge to go rescue the kid. During the flight, they were shot down by Megatron's cannon, disabling Depth Charge and leaving Rattrap to go on alone. Though outnumbered by the Predacons, Rattrap was aided by Una herself, and the pair made their escape, using Depth Charge as a raft. {{storylink|Go with the Flow}} When Blackarachnia's shell program began to degrade, and she downloaded the Ark's access codes into Optimus, Rattrap commented "You couldn't pay me to let that spider inside my processor," which prompted Cheetor and Silverbolt to tell him to keep his opinions to himself. He still defended the base to try and prevent the operation to save Blackarachnia from failing, even if it did fail in the end (she got better). {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}} Megatron's next plan saw Quickstrike taking control of Optimus Primal, disabling the other Maximals and locking them in a cage. Blackarachnia released them all in time to fight off a newly upgraded Megatron. {{storylink|Master Blaster}}

When the Predacon base was destroyed by the arrival of [[Tigerhawk]], Rattrap was the first, and only Maximal prepared to celebrate, but was puzzled when anyone failed to return his high-five. {{storylink|Other Victories}} He was skeptical that Tigerhawk's arrival had anything to do with the [[Covenant of Primus]], and was later dismayed to learn that Megatron had pulled an ace out of his sleeve, in the form of the ancient [[Decepticon]] warship, the ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'', and they were going to have to defend the Ark against the oncoming attack. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 1}}

With the ''Nemesis'' airborne, the Maximals were forced to try to implement [[Operation Eternity]]. Rattrap found himself having to pack up his collection of Predacon parts, which has particularly full of Waspinator bits, as Rhinox explained that they might need to move the Ark. The Maximals struggled to get the ship working, and Blackarachnia found that Rattrap's [[sword]]-tail made a perfect power conduit... once she snipped off the tip. OW. Of course, it quickly melted when they tried and failed to fire up the engines.

As the victorious Maximals left Earth in a refitted Autobot shuttle, Rattrap was more than surprised to learn that [[Dinobot II|old chopper face's clone]] was responsible for saving them, but very happy—they were going home, and they wouldn't have to see Megatron until after they got there, as he was strapped to the roof of their shuttle. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}
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====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English), [[Kappei Yamaguchi]] (Japanese)|[[Ignacio Castaño]] (Castilian Spanish), [[Alexandre Moreno]] (Portuguese), [[Daniel Abundis]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Gerald Schaale]] (German), [[Fabrizio Manfredi]] (Italian)}}

[[File:MasteroftheHouse Rattrap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.5|left|Look, if you're not going to keep your technorganic body clean, it'll be taken away from you.]]
After the Beast Wars ended, the Maximals finally made it back to Cybertron, only to be shot down, hunted and attacked by legions of [[Vehicon (BM)|mindless tank drone Transformers]]. The drones unleashed a virus on the Maximals, devolving them back into their organic beast forms and erasing any prior memory of the event. Rattrap was hiding in a [[Monorail transport|monorail car]] when [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Primal]] stumbled upon him. Although Rattrap wanted to hide in the train car, Primal snatched him up and escaped just as the tank drones fired upon him. Primal's newfound intuition soon reunited the pair with [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] and [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. Primal then led them to the ancient [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]] computer, which reformatted them into new, techno-organic bodies, curing the virus.

In his new form, Rattrap became a large green rat with a "toolkit" on his back, containing such things as flashlights and computer ports. When they first faced a platoon of [[Motorcycle Drone|Cycle drone]]s, the Maximals discovered that they were unable to transform. Rattrap asked if maybe they could return the upgrade, but Optimus soon stumbled on the fact that they needed to focus their inner selves in order to transform. {{storylink|The Reformatting}}

Optimus set about teaching the other Maximals how to transform, but Rattrap had an immense amount of trouble, unable to get anything to happen. Their base discovered, the Maximals split up to find a new one, Rattrap accompanying Optimus on his search. When they later tried to gain entry to the [[Council Citadel]], Rattrap found his inability to transform caused him to be pretty much useless in battle. He was only saved from some Tank drones by Optimus interrupting [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s concentration. {{storylink|Master of the House}}

The other Maximals kept the Vehicons busy while Rattrap broke into the [[Cybertron Archives]], only to find the ancient library had been wiped clean. After a disorderly retreat, Rattrap followed Blackarachnia to the spaceport, where they encountered three new [[Vehicon general]]s. They managed to evade the trio and accessed the spaceport records of their arrival, discovering that there had been six of them on the shuttle. Blackarachnia headed for the shuttle's location, and Rattrap overheard a communication from Megatron indicating that he was going to access her mind when she accessed the shuttle computer. Rattrap dashed to the shuttle and cut the connection in time, and the pair were subsequently rescued from the three generals by Optimus and Cheetor. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}}

[[File:Mercenary Pursuits Rattrap 2heads.jpg|upright=1.3|thumb|"My grandmother was caught snogging with Star Upper in a private zoo in 1919, so now I have a talking boil on my neck."]]
The discovery of information about [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] reawakened memories of them in the Maximals, who set out to find the missing pair. During the search, Rattrap found a transformation enhancer in a laboratory and, frustrated at his inability to transform, used it. Unfortunately it caused unpredictable effects, resulting in the four Maximals being captured by [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]]. Taken to Megatron, the Maximals were in danger of having their sparks extracted, however Rattrap's spontaneous random transformations broke him free of the energon bonds, and he was able to free everyone. With the help of Tankor, who Optimus temporarily convinced to help them, the Maximals escaped. {{storylink|Mercenary Pursuits}}

Rattrap's failure to master transforming continued to frustrate him, causing him to snap at Primal and bluntly suggest the Maximal leader save his concern for Rhinox and Silverbolt. The Maximals subsequently encountered another Maximal, [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]], who had survived Megatron's purge. After a brief battle with [[Aero Drone]]s, during which Rattrap was forced to hide, Nightscream took the Maximals to the tree he had been living off. Rattrap, Blackarachnia and Optimus ate fruit from the tree, causing their beast instincts to overcome them, until Cheetor blasted the tree. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}}

[[File:Rattrap bm robotmode.jpg|left|upright=1.55|thumb|They see me rollin', they hatin'.]]
With Optimus Primal weakened after reformatting Nightscream, Cheetor was left in charge, and he, Rattrap and Blackarachnia went on a mission to a Vehicon factory in search of information. While under orders to access the computer, Rattrap saw Nightscream in what looked like deadly peril... and finally found that his concern for others allowed him to transform. Though he realised straight away that his new [[robot mode]] lacked weapons, he attempted to save Nightscream anyway, only to discover he'd bungled an ambush his friends were planning. While trying to stop the factory operating, he managed to send a massive surge through the computer system, destroying the factory- at the same time temporarily crippling Megatron and putting his drone armies out of commission.

Back at base, Cheetor chewed out his behaviour. To make matters worse, he compounded the problem by transforming to robot mode within the base to prove that he could- something that potentially allowed the Vehicons to track their position. Though he suddenly realised that the power surge he'd caused had made Megatron weak, the other Maximals refused to follow his suggestion that pressing to the attack might be a good idea, and he would later overhear them discussing what to do about him. Upset, he left the base and went to Megatron, offering to protect the Vehicon leader overnight in return for "noisemakers", and was provided with a massive armored suit. As the other Maximals arrived, accusing him of being a traitor, tensions mounted between the two. Indeed, this controversial decision almost brought him to blows with the other Maximals, until Primal arrived and talked him down, telling the other Maximals that Rattrap was stronger than they knew. As a result, Rattrap abandoned the armored suit and walked into the sunlight with the other four Maximals. {{storylink|The Weak Component}}

Not long afterwards, the Maximals found a factory full of empty Transformer bodies, which Rattrap examined. and discovered that the sparks had been forcibly ripped out. After another skirmish with the Vehicons, Blackarachnia revealed she'd discovered that the three generals held the sparks of their missing friends. {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery|Discovery}} While Nightscream and Blackarachnia kept the other Vehicon generals busy, Rattrap and Cheetor went on a special mission. Rattrap hacked into Tankor's processor, unlocking memories about what had happened when they reached Cybertron. It didn't take long before he realised that Tankor was actually Rhinox. {{storylink|Revelations Part II: Descent|Descent}} Though Cheetor was skeptical, they revived Tankor, only to find themselves being chased across the city by the enraged Vehicon. Eventually, Primal was able to reawaken Rhinox's personality, only for the Maximals to discover their friend had turned against him. Though Rattrap was about to reprogram Tankor, he was prevented by Optimus, and could only watch as their friend left. {{storylink|Revelations Part III: Apocalypse|Apocalypse}}

[[File:Survivor Rattrap takes cover.jpg|thumb|upright=1.2|Cowering away from Zoisite.]]
While Rattrap was trying to extract memories from Nightscream, the young Maximal's snide comments about the fact they had lost the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] angered him. The Maximals attempted to find the chamber containing the fruit tree again, leading to a fight with the Vehicons during which everyone was knocked out, and Nightscream abducted. The Maximals managed to find him, leading them to battle more Vehicons, and the discovery of a [[fossil cave]] which they would use for their base. {{storylink|Survivor}} With Optimus and Cheetor now constantly coming to blows over leadership decisions, Rattrap would often find himself in the middle of their arguments. The latest such argument was cut short when the Maximals discovered a quantity of [[organic goo]], which was followed by the appearance of Tankor, who used the [[Key to Vector Sigma]] to turn Nightscream into [[technomatter]] before himself overloading. As they'd discovered that the organic goo would cure the technomatter sickness, Rattrap accompanied Primal and Cheetor in trying to obtain a [[Vehicon Mole|mole drone]] in order to drill for more goo. Having commandeered one and cured the technomatter, Rattrap found himself in the middle of another argument, and this time left them to it, forcing them to talk about their disagreement. {{storylink|The Key}}

[[File:Catalyst Rattrap vine uhoh.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|He hurt it through the grapevine.]]
Searching the computers for more locations to find the organic goo, Rattrap stumbled on a catalyst planted there by Tankor. He used it to superaccelerate the plant growth, only to find himself literally carried away by the vines, and having to be rescued by the other Maximals. They would later use the fast-growing vines to rescue Blackarachnia, against Optimus's wishes, an act that almost spelled doom for the orchard. {{storylink|The Catalyst}} Nonetheless, Rattrap used the catalyst to create plant-bombs that ensnared Vehicons in instant-growth vines. When Optimus discovered the location of the [[plasma energy|Plasma Energy Chamber]], which would end all technological life on Cybertron, the other Maximals persuaded him not to use it. Instead, they had Rattrap attempt to hack into the computers to found a way to disable the Keys. Unfortunately Tankor had other plans, and disabled Rattrap by zapping him into technomatter. {{storylink|End of the Line}}

Restored to technorganic health when the conflicting energies of the Keys and the Plasma Energy Chamber cancelled each other out, the Maximals visited the Council Citadel, where they discovered the remains of Optimus, Megatron and Tankor. Rattrap checked out the city's central core and reported it was flat-lining. Though he was greatly discouraged, Cheetor announced they had to find the lost sparks. After an altercation with the two remaining Vehicon generals, the Maximals went to the Oracle chamber, where they found Primal floating with in the Oracle. Though he asked for them to forgive him, Rattrap told him there was nothing to forgive. With some encouragement from the Maximals and an encounter with the Matrix, Optimus chose life, returning to them.

[[File:PrometheusUnbound Rattrap harness.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"''I'' was Number One all along!!"]]
Returning to the surface, the Maximals were startled when a giant [[Grand Mal|likeness of Megatron]] floated into view. {{storylink|Fallout (episode)|Fallout}} While Optimus tried to contact Megatron's spark, the other Maximals went to look for the Vehicon generals, and found [[Noble (BM)|Noble]], a completely organic [[Transformer]] who had seemingly no control over his transformations into a huge beast dubbed Savage. {{storylink|Savage Noble}} Noble made Rattrap extremely uneasy and he had little sympathy for Nightscream's friendship with the beast. The Maximals broke into the Council Citadel, eventually reaching the throne room, where Rattrap tapped into Megatron's [[control harness]] and attempted to access the encrypted data. He was pulled from the harness by Noble, who it turned out was Megatron himself, trapped in his own organic half. Megatron used [[spark extractor]]s to remove his spark, and soon took up residence in the giant floating head, reactivating the Vehicon drones. After the Maximals retreated to a safe place, Rattrap expressed his sorrow to Nightscream that Noble had turned out to be a con job. {{storylink|Prometheus Unbound}}

Rattrap developed a new device, combining a spark extractor with a [[DNA scanner]], which he hoped to use to reformat the Vehicon generals back into their friends. While searching for Nightscream, he spotted the young Maximal being dragged away by Savage, who was by then sparkless and operating completely on instinct. Believing the worst, Rattrap attempted to quietly rescue Nightscream, but accidentally alerted Savage. The pair fled, and managed to lose Savage by diverting his attention to [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]]. They found that Blackarachnia had used Rattrap's device to turn [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] back into [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and Rattrap was overjoyed to have at least one of their friends back. {{storylink|In Darkest Knight}} A [[Hate Plague]] virus created by Megatron infected the Maximal ranks, causing the Maximals to fight among themselves. With Optimus's help, they realised what was happening and managed to work together to overcome the virus. {{storylink|A Wolf in the Fold}}

A spaceship crash led the Maximals to discover [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]], a Maximal formatted as a plant-based life form, who was able to lend a hand with the failing technorganic crops. {{storylink|Home Soil}} Though the Maximals were finding they had an easier time dealing with just Thrust, Megatron soon introduced two new Vehicon generals — [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] and [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] — who almost got the better of the Maximals until a vision prompted Botanica to lend a hand. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. I: The Strike|The Strike}}

[[File:Sparkwar2 Rattrap generators.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|"All right, so it's not a TARDIS generator, it's just a jammy dodger..."]]
Searching for a way to evade the Vehicons, Rattrap developed [[scrambled field generator]]s, which hid their life signs. Rattrap and Botanica were paired up to search for the lost sparks, but spent most of their search bickering, only to encounter Strika. Fleeing, they hid in a handy building which turned out to contain a [[Holo-chip|holographic entertainment unit]], much to Rattrap's delight. While he was immersed in an illusion, Strika attacked. Botanica yanked him out of the holographic world, and he subsequently used the device to keep Strika occupied. Though he was inordinately pleased with himself, Botanica dragged him from the building, saying the hologram wouldn't hold Strika for long. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. II: The Search|The Search}}

As the Maximals intended to infiltrate the floating head in search of the missing sparks, Rattrap provided upgraded versions of his scrambled field generators. They were used to great effect, as Rattrap, Primal, Blackarachnia and Botanica snuck aboard the flying head, only to discover that Megatron had begun to devour the missing sparks as part of his ascension. After Megatron made the mistake of killing Noble, Nightscream used his sonic attack to blast and apparently dissipate Megatron's spark. With the floating head plummeting, Rattrap managed to activate the manual controls so that Optimus could take control of it. {{storylink|Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege|The Siege}}

After the Maximals had celebrated their foe's demise, Optimus assigned Botanica and Rattrap to tend to the [[technorganic orchard]], much to Rattrap's dismay. He continued to complain, even as he worked on the orchard, and got into an intense argument with Botanica, which abruptly ended when they accidentally [[Kiss|locked lips]]. Startled and embarrassed, they both decided to delete their memories of the incident. As it turned out, Megatron wasn't gone after all, and his spark possessed a Cycle drone, which wreaked havoc in the orchard until Botanica destroyed it. Rattrap swiftly found a way to track the spark, and managed to repolarize it, allowing it to finally possess a body for good — that of a [[Diagnostic Drone]]. {{storylink|Spark of Darkness}}

[[File:BMEndgame1 Rattrap Botanica dying.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"See?! Botanica's no longer GOING to be in the show! ''I HOPE YOU'RE SATISFIED, FANDOM.''"]]
Soon the Maximals found themselves sieged aboard the giant head. The ship's shields cut Botanica from Cybertron's organic core, slowly starving her. Desperate to save her, Rattrap loaded her into a lifepod and used a device to eject her through the shields. Unfortunately this also allowed Megatron to learn the shield harmonics, enabling the Vehicons to bypass the shields as well. Rattrap defended his actions, but the ship was doomed. He erected a stasis field around the [[spark containment unit]] as the ship plunged to the ground. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. I: The Downward Spiral|The Downward Spiral}} With the ship completely depowered, Botanica showed up with a power cable, and Rattrap was extremely happy to see her, though he clumsily hid it. As they prepared to defend the ship, Botanica thanked Rattrap for saving her life. Optimus was able to get the Oracle to provide them with spark powerups.

[[File:Rattrap bm treehugger.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|A little man and a big plant.]]
During the battle against the Vehicon drones, Botanica sensed Mole drones attacking the orchard, and took Rattrap and Nightscream down to fight them off. The Mole drones moved in on Botanica, but Rattrap used his spark power to whisk her out of danger. Megatron was able to use his access to the Oracle to cut off the Maximals' spark power, and, overcome by the Mole drones, Rattrap and Botanica had their sparks ripped out by Cycle drones. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. II: When Legends Fall|When Legends Fall}}

Though no longer able to physically help, the Maximals were able to offer brief words of encouragement to Primal during his final battle with Megatron. When Primal's sacrifice triggered the reformatting of Cybertron, their sparks were freed and quickly returned to their bodies. As they witnessed the newly greened Cybertron and the restored population, Rattrap leapt joyfully into Botanica's arms. So he's a tree hugger. Deal with it. His and Botanica's romantic moment was interrupted by [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (now regular wasp size and with his [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] head) complaining about how he never gets what he wants, Rattrap just swatted him away. {{storylink|Endgame Pt. III: Seeds of the Future|Seeds of the Future}}
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====Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity====
=====''Cloud''=====
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=====''Transformers Legends'' comic=====
Following the [[Great Reformatting]], the Maximals learned that Rhinox's spirit had crossed over into the [[Legends Universe]], an alternate dimension where they were all fictional characters. Intrigued, Rattrap volunteered to go search for Rhinox, and was reformatted into his original Earth body for the trip. On arrival, he found to his surprise that he and his friends existed in the Legends world as small, cute versions of themselves, and ended up signing an autograph for his own alternate self, who was a huge ''Beast Wars'' fan. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Rattrap)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}} When Waspinator, who had come with him to this universe, started causing trouble, Rattrap set out to stop him. He rebuffed the other Rattrap's offer to help, believing him too small and weak, but his other self revealed that he could transform into a proper Transformer nigh-identical to the original Rattrap. The two teamed up against Waspinator, only to find he was possessed by [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]], who was too strong for them. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Waspinator)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}} In the end, Starscream was defeated by the ghost of Rhinox, who Rattrap was overjoyed to see again. After Rhinox had been provided with a new body, Rattrap returned with him to their [[Primax 1097.01 Alpha|home dimension]]. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Rhinox)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}

====3H comics====
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English)}}

[[File:Terminus-Rattrap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.0|right]]
Silverbolt and Rattrap came upon [[Packrat]] and [[Onyx Primal]] battling the Predacons [[Vice Grip]] and [[Fractyl]]. Although Silverbolt was gung-ho as always when it came to rescue fellow Maximals, Rattrap didn't want to bother, them being "repaints" and all. Silverbolt disregarded Rattrap's commentary and charged right in. Apparently, their phenomenal entrance took out half the landscape. It must have really been something to see. After the Predacons were driven off, Rattrap asked the two "promotional items" if they had gotten around to acquiring the "episode's McGuffin". The others admitted that they had lost the item. The Maximals were then attacked by [[Antagony (BW)|mysterious shadowy figure]]. Thankfully, Optimus Primal soon came around to help out with the situation. {{storylink|Visitations}}

Later, Rattrap and the other Maximals set out to investigate a temporal anomaly detected by Rhinox. They encountered the Predacons en route. The two factions were locked in a firefight, though the advantage lay with the Predacons. Rattrap, as always, made his displeasure over the situation vocal. After Megatron took off to reach the time-traveller that both teams had previously detected, Optimus was forced to pursue him, leaving his troops against insurmountable odds. This, of course, prompted Rattrap to make more smart-ass comments about the Maximals' situation. The Predacons eventually began to push the Maximals back towards a cliffside. Then, suddenly, Predacon fire ceased entirely. The situation had not become any safer however, the Maximals now had to contend with [[Windrazor (BW)|Windrazor]], the aforementioned time-traveler, possessed by Unicron's dark essence. Though Windrazor was able to expunge Unicron from his systems, the much more powerful Shockaract appeared immediately aftwerwards... {{storylink|Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Paradox}}

Shockaract grabbed hold of Optimus in an attempt to rip his spark from his body. Simultaneously, the evil overlord unleashed a torrent of projectiles, which Rattrap desperately attempt to avoid, with only semi-success. Once Shockaract was defeated space-time rebooted itself with the disappearance of the Dark Essence from the past, and these events were erased from Rattrap's timeline. {{storylink|Terminus (issue)|Terminus}}

During the [[Quintesson]] invasion of the newly techno-organic Cybertron, Rattrap was with Botanica when she sensed a disturbance in the earth. He and Nightscream joined her in tracing her feelings underground, where they encountered a Quintesson named [[Al-Badur]]. After Al-Badur proved his good intentions (for the moment) by disabling a large number of the invading [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]]s, Rattrap and his friends agreed to follow the Quint to the site of the [[Wrecker]]s' battle.

The combined Autobots and Maximals were drafted to assist [[Sentinel Maximus]] in his conflict with [[Cryotek (Universe)|Cryotek]]. Naturally, Al-Badur betrayed them when he saw a chance, trapping Sentinel and Cryotek behind a force field over a spatial portal, and nearly snaring Rattrap and the others as well. Worse still, the unique composition of the Quintesson portal chamber resisted the effects of the reformatting, and was completely blocked off from the planet's organic core. Without that link, Botanica was fading fast. Rattrap and Nightscream got her to safety and returned to help, but ultimately there was nothing to be done. Sentinel Maximus grabbed hold of Cryotek and pulled him into the yawning portal, sacrificing himself to remove the Predacon gangster from Cybertron.

Afterwards, Rattrap and the others mourned their losses, including the fabled Autobot leader [[Hot Rod|Rodimus]]. They were nearly caught up in [[Rook (Universe)|Rook]]'s media coverage on the way out of the underground, but Rattrap side-stepped the camera-bot. He offered the Wreckers' ally [[Devcon (G1)|Devcon]] a restored commission as [[Imperial Peace Marshal|Peace Marshall]] in the [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] territories, but the hunter declined. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

[[File:Rattrap legs.jpg|left|thumb|Legs! Precious, beautiful legs!]]
Approximately one year later, Rattrap was among the Maximals gathered at the [[Memorial Spaceport]] to greet the wayward [[Autobot]]s [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], [[Roulette (Universe)|Roulette]], and [[Shadow Striker (Universe)|Shadow Striker]] back to Cybertron. He welcomed Trailbreaker back in his own unique fashion (involving intoxicants, naturally). Seconds later, Rattrap bore witness as the five travelers were abducted by Unicron. {{storylink|Abduction}}

When Optimus Primal was restored to life and returned to Cybertron with the abductees, Rattrap was there to witness their arrival. {{storylink|Escape (Universe)|Escape}} Despite Primal's miraculous return, some of the Maximals voiced concerns that he might not be the same 'bot they once knew, but Rattrap vowed that this time, he was with Primal all the way.

Not long after, needing to blow off steam, Rattrap headed down to the [[Undercity]]. While firing off a blaster at nothing in particular, he was attacked on Cybertron by Blackarachnia, who had been abducted and [[Unicron virus|corrupted]] by the Chaos-Bringer. Rattrap noted that he had never trusted Blackarachnia, and she replied that he was right not to do so. She was seconds away from delivering a killing strike, but Rattrap was saved by the recently resurrected [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]]. After the spider was driven off, Depth Charge started to leave. Rattrap pleaded with him that there was obviously something big afoot, but Depth Charge would not be swayed, taking his leave as the injured Rattrap passed out. {{storylink|Homecoming (Universe)|Homecoming}}

Later in the [[Universe War]], Rattrap was part of a team sent to rescue several would-be abductees of Unicron from a barren, icy planetoid. Rattrap was left upset that it was becoming increasingly hard to insult people, not sure why they bothered keeping ex-enemy [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] around, and wishing he had bought a copy of ''Universe 1/2'' so he could understand the plot. When [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]] attacked, the Beast Warriors were luckily warped to the passing Autobot ship ''[[OTFCC (ship)|OTFCC]]'' before being wiped out. {{storylink|Voice Actor Drama}}

====''Universe'' comic====
[[File:Escape-extraRattrap.jpg|thumb|upright=0.85|THERE. ARE. TWO. RATTRAPS.]]
The technorganic Rattrap of [[Primax 1103.12-R Gamma]] was abducted by [[Unicron]], as was [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] and, from earlier in their reality's timeline, [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]]. Unlike Terrorsaur, Rattrap and Thrust held out against Unicron's corrupting influence, arguably becoming [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/09/20}} Rattrap was freed along with many other abductees in a jailbreak engineered by [[Primax 797.18 Epsilon|another universe]]'s [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] and presumably returned to his home universe. {{storylink|Escape (Universe)|Escape}}

====Dreamwave ''Armada'' comic====
When the [[Herald of Unicron|Heralds of Unicron]] destabilized the Decepticon [[space bridge nexus]], causing the space bridges to become windows to other dimensions, [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] caught a glimpse of Tigatron and Rattrap in one of the portals. {{storylink|Worlds Collide, Part 4 of 4}}

====Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity====
[[File:AintNoRat Rattrap target.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|left|There is a checkbook in the left pocket of my fatigues! I will pay you all of my money to stop!]]
As Rattrap piloted the Autobot shuttle back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], he observed his companions sleeping in back, and drifted off himself, beginning to dream...

:''Out testing an experimental vehicle built by [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], Rattrap ran into [[Dinobot II|Dinobot]], who yanked him out of the small craft. Rattrap's appeals to the Predacon's honor appeared to have an effect, and Dinobot halted his blow for a few moments, before appearing to resume his attack. They were interrupted when a [[Bonecrusher (BW)|bison]] knocked them both from a cliff, and Rattrap was saved from falling to his death by a [[Optimus Minor|monkey]]. Bonecrusher, Optimus Minor and [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] introduced themselves to a startled Rattrap, but Optimus Minor asked him not to tell Primal, as the three Maximals did not wish to fight in the Beast Wars.''

Rattrap was woken up by Primal, but wouldn't elaborate on what he had been dreaming. {{storylink|Ain't No Rat}}

{{BW Shell Game}}
After being shaken out of his nap, Rattrap found his comrades acting unusually hostile. Strange still, he was plagued by visions of Optimus Minor, Bonecrusher, and Wolfang, but couldn't recall who these three were anymore. Rattrap's confused reaction to phantoms no one else could see prompted Optimus to suggest the rodent spent som time in the C.R. Chamber. Rattrap insisted he was fine, but a Transwarp agitator previously planted on the shuttlecraft's exterior by the Predacons upped his crew-mates' aggressiveness, causing them to openly attack Rattrap after he refused to comply to their suggestion. Rattrap fled to the shuttle’s cockpit while the rest of his team started turning on one-another. There, he was once more accosted by visions of the three Maximals. Being urged to "turn back" by these apparitions, Rattrap deactivated the ship's transwarp drive, returning it to prehistoric Earth. Though this also caused the other Maximals to return to normal, Megatron took advantage of the situation to escape from his bonds atop of the ship! {{storylink|Shell Game issue 1|Shell Game #1}}
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====''Transformers Legends'' anthology====
Not long after Megatron combined his spark with that of the original Megatron, he had Quickstrike plant a device in the Maximal base. The device magnified the Maximals' aggression. For Rattrap, this simply meant that his complaining became even more incessant until Cheetor started chasing him around. Eventually Optimus Primal was able to help them overcome the device's effects, and they fought off Megatron instead. {{storylink|A Meeting of Minds}}

Much later, While [[Botanica (BM)|Botanica]] and Rattrap were bickering in the [[technorganic orchard]], Megatron's spark animated a [[Motorcycle Drone|Cycle drone]] and attacked them. After a brief scuffle, the thing exploded, sending the pair diving for cover. Rattrap later worked out that Megatron's spark had become depolarised and attempted to repolarise it. Unfortunately his attempts clued Megatron in to what had happened, and before Rattrap ultimately succeeded, Megatron used the knowledge to destroy Rhinox. {{storylink|Singularity Ablyss}}

====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
The 'bot that would one day call himself "Rattrap" was aboard the Axalon, along with the rest of its original crew, tasked with performing orbital scans of Cybertron. He managed to annoy his [[Optimus Primal|superior]] the whole time by teasing the 'bot about his "Optimus Primey" look and behavior. The crew's survey yielded transmatter energy signatures coming from the head of [[Unicron]], in orbit around the planet. But upon their approach, a Transmatter bomb erupted out of the satellite, and the Axalon accidentally came to meet its path. The ship avoided damage thanks to its shields, and the bomb was deflected away from the planet. {{storylink|Dawn of the Predacus}}

As [[Magmatron]] surveyed the events that began the Beast Wars, he witnessed Rattrap looking distressed and suffering from Energon overexposure. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 1|The Gathering #1}}

====''Timelines''====
[[File:Timelines-rattrap.jpg|thumb|Remember kids, always wear your helmet when you transform into a bicycle.]]

While preparing for an exploration mission on board the [[Axalon (BW)|''Axalon'']], the Maximal who would later be called Rattrap and [[Cheetor (BW)|his young companion]] were stuck aboard a space station for weeks, running various errands before their mission could officially begin. Rattrap made no secret of his desire to be [[O'Malley's|somewhere else]]. After acquiring additional [[Energon]] for their trip, they returned to the ''Axalon'' where their captain, [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]], notified his crew they had to travel first to the [[Alpha Quadrant]] to rid themselves of [[Rampage (BW)|some mysterious cargo]].

In the middle of Rattrap's objections, the ''Axalon'' was contacted by the [[Maximal High Council|High Council]]. The [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], a historic Maximal artifact, had been stolen by a rogue group of [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] led by a Predacon criminal who had dubbed himself [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]. As the ''Axalon'' was the closest ship with the capabilities to take down the [[Darksyde (BW)|Predacons' stolen ship]], Rattrap and his team were ordered to pursue.

However, before long, their ship was attacked by a [[Buzzsaw and Laserbeak's ship|mysterious Predacon ship]]. After taking some damage, Rattrap was elated to see the ''[[Chromia 10]]'', a second Maximal ship, arrive and help deter their unknown attackers. However, the ''Chromia 10'' and its pilots were severely damaged in the scuffle before Rattrap was able to destroy the unknown Predacon ship with the ''Axalon'''s forward guns.

The battle over momentarily, Rattrap's ship was hailed by Megatron's, and the Predacon criminal introduced himself quickly to them before his ship opened fire on the Maximals. The ''Darksyde'' disappeared through a [[transwarp]] portal, and Rattrap and the Maximals followed. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}
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====''Wings Universe''====
Following the Great Reformatting of Cybertron, Rattrap and his friends stood guard over Cheetor as their leader attempted to commune with the Oracle. {{storylink|Hoist the Flag|Alpha Trizer's profile}}

====Razorclaw continuity====
In one splinter timeline of [[Primax 496.22 Alpha]], minor atmospheric perturbations caused [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]'s stasis pod to crash on the far side of Earth, and absent his presence, Megatron slaughtered all the remaining Maximals except [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/07}}

====Ask Vector Prime====
Due to the temporal machinations of [[Ravage (G1)|Jaguar]] and the subsequent response by the [[Alternity]] in [[OG World|Primax 785.06 Alpha]], a quantum duplicate of Rattrap from just after the end of the Beast Wars in [[Primax 496.22 Alpha]] was spawned. The Autobot shuttle carrying him was shunted into [[BT World|Primax 903.0 Beta]], where Unicron destroyed the ship, scattering the crew into [[transwarp]] space. The Alternity shepherded the "shipwrecked" Primal, Rhinox, Rattrap, and Silverbolt to [[Viron 102.0 Beta]] in order to fight the similarly-shipwrecked Megatron, who schemed to take over this reality's Cybertron by capturing the populace's sparks and converting their bodies into Vehicons. Guided by the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]], Primal's forces fought the long and arduous "Allspark Battles", eventually triumphing over Megatron's Vehicon hordes. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/09/30}}

====''Beast Wars: Uprising''====
After [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] attacked [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and was thrown out of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] when [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] activated the ship's defense systems, Rattrap and the other Maximals attempted to heal the wounded Autobot. However, Megatron was not thrown far enough and the Predacon managed to reenter the Ark and blast the Autobot leader, decisively erasing the Maximals from the timeline. {{storylink|A Change to the Agenda}} In [[Primax 209.0 Gamma|the wildly different timeline]] that followed, Rattrap's life would take [[#Beast Wars: Uprising 2|a very different track]].

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga===
[[File:RattrapMetalsMangaIssue1Fre.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Well, at least he's still in character, anyway.]]

Following the [[Quantum surge]], [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]] was dead and the [[Maximal]]s were left scattered all over [[Earth|Energoa]]. Now a [[Transmetal]], Rattrap proceeded to freak out all over the Maximal base as [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] attacked in force with his [[Cobra Corps]] and [[Scorpion Corps]]. With [[Sentinel (BW)|Sentinel]]'s defenses gradually depleting, Rattrap remarked that they were all going to die.

Suddenly, [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] appeared above the base, only to be attacked by Sentinel. [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] moved to shut Sentinel down and let her in, but Rattrap stopped him, saying that if he shut it down, they'd die for sure. Rhinox angrily reminded him that Maximals don't turn their backs on one another and shut Sentinel down. Feeling a bit guilty, Rattrap proceeded to use himself to cushion Airazor's crash-landing.

With the defenses down, [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] was able to sneak in and attack. Ripping off Rattrap's arm, Blackarachnia was only spurred to leave after seeing what she thought was Rhinox committing suicide. As the base collapsed, Rattrap, Airazor and Rhinox were kept safe by a small force field, protecting a machine Rhinox hoped would return Optimus Primal to his old body. As Rhinox brought Primal's spark out of [[Transwarp space]], Rattrap blasted it from a laser cannon toward a dish positioned by Airazor, allowing Primal to return to his new Transmetal body. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 1|Beast Wars Metals #1}}

Rattrap later joined Primal and Airazor in investigating the remains of the ''Axalon''. He had his tail eaten by Rampage, who was lying in wait for the Maximals. He and Airazor were ultimately able to defeat the monster by using the ship's missiles to activate undersea volcanos, that blasted the crab sky high. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 2|Beast Wars Metals #2}}

Rattrap was later thrilled to see that his buddy Dinobot was alive, albeit recovering from injuries in a [[protohuman]] village. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 3|Beast Wars Metals #3}}

And after that, Rattrap and Rhinox used their monitors to see Airazor struggling with a mind-controlled Tigatron. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 4|Beast Wars Metals #4}}

And after ''that'', Rattrap's and Rhinox's monitoring skills came in handy again, as they hacked into the security cameras of the ''Ark'' and saw that Megatron was planning to kill [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 5|Beast Wars Metals #5}}

He and Rhinox raced to the ''Ark'' in their vehicle modes, but were too slow to arrive in time to help. They made it there after Primal had taken care of business and were reunited with all the other Maximals who had been separated. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 6|Beast Wars Metals #6}}
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
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[[File:PostHoc-Rattrap.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.1|In IDW continuity, Rattrap goes through his bodies backwards.]]

Just before the war, Rattrap stood on a street corner outside [[Maccadam's Old Oil House|Maccadam's New Oil House]]. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}}

During the war, Rattrap joined the Autobots, and was deployed to the backwater planet of [[Z'verei]]. There, he adopted a [[Z'verein mole-rat]] alternate mode and fought Decepticons for millions of years.

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Following the war, [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] was envious of [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]]'s growing popularity on the very first night after the exile of the Autobots and Decepticons. Rattrap suddenly approached him and started a conversation, offering his help to the new Cybertronian leader. Rattrap knew Scoop from before and had never trusted him, even calling him jealous of the more successful bots. Rattrap had the damaged power coupling responsible for the blackout, and called Starscream's attention to the phosphex burn that indicated the power loss was sabotage, and not the result of an overload.

Later that night, Starscream met Scoop while the former Autobot was repairing Iacon's communications array. Rattrap pointed at Scoop's toolbox, indicating it had some dark secret inside. When Scoop descended from the tower, Rattrap got under his feet and caused him to drop his toolbox. The toolbox opened and revealed its contents, including a canister of phosphex. Starscream took advantage of the situation and indicated that Scoop orchestrated the blackout for his own benefit, than ordered him to be incarcerated.

Later still, Rattrap arrived home, where Starscream was already waiting for him, complaining about the dirt and smell of Rattrap's flat. The former seeker leader considers himself a professional liar, therefore he can easily divide the truth from the lie, and he realized that Scoop only wanted to help the people of Iacon. He also found out that Rattrap was the one who planted the phosphex and caused the blackout, because he was the one who was always jealous of the luckier bots. Starscream was so amused by this, he instantly offered Rattrap a job in his government. {{storylink|Three Monologues}}

That night, the former Seeker suddenly spasmed before Rattrap, seemingly dying. Rattrap scurried for cover from Starscream's unknown attacker. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

As morning came, Rattrap's "ninth sense" started to twitch, warning him of danger. He brought to Starscream's attention the "sunrise" coming over the horizon...and the fact that sunrise was still a few hours away. {{storylink|Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|Dark Dawn}} As the [[Necrotitan]] emerged from the former site of [[Crystal City]] outside of Iacon, the natives started getting restless. Rattrap brought Starscream down to see Scoop at the detention facility. Scoop informed them of the legends in the [[Covenant of Primes]] about a false prophet and the black titan that would herald him. {{storylink|Black Metal: Dark Cybertron Chapter 2|Black Metal}}

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Rattrap began to see the tide of public opinion turning against Starscream in the wake of the "lost prophecy" (which ''somehow'' made its way from Scoop's cell to the general public). After overhearing Starscream admit to killing [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]] as well, Rattrap started to plan for a...different future. He released Scoop from confinement just as Starscream confronted the Necrotitan and seemingly ushered forth a blast of "death plague" that devastated New Iacon and its inhabitants. {{storylink|Winners & Losers: Dark Cybertron Chapter 3|Winners & Losers}} Rattrap remained at Starscream's side during the clean up efforts, but continued to sow discord against the boss in his own way at the same time. {{storylink|Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|Into the Abyss}}

As the Necrotitan marched on New Iacon, Rattrap contacted [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]] and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s factions, bringing them back into the city to defend the population where Starscream could not. {{storylink|Burning Bright: Dark Cybertron Chapter 8|Burning Bright}} He began working to evacuate civilians to the Autobot camp on the outskirts of the city. {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}} When the arrival of the ''Lost Light'' and Metroplex (at Starscream's bidding) turned the tide and saved New Iacon from complete destruction, Rattrap quietly reaffirmed his loyalty to Starscream over Scoop or the others. Starscream, always amused to see another schemer at work, seemingly accepted Rattrap back with open arms and a watchful eye. {{storylink|The Becoming: Dark Cybertron Chapter 10|The Becoming}}

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Starscream and Rattrap joined the Autobots and Decepticons in defense of Cybertron against the billions of [[Ammonite]]s summoned by Shockwave for the final stages of his plan. They teleported into Crystal City with [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]'s help, and assaulted the chronal drive along with the resurrected Metalhawk. The trio were opposed by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]], however, and his ever-changing reactive armor. {{storylink|Black Planet: Dark Cybertron Chapter 11|Black Planet}} They succeeded, though, with Metalhawk destroying the drive and Starscream killing Jhiaxus in combat. As the Ammonite army self-destructed, Rattrap tried to get into Starscream's head and play on his doubts on his part in everything that happened, but Starscream firmly warned him not to even try. {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}}

In the aftermath, Megatron - now affiliated with the Autobots- agreed to stand trial for his crimes. Rattrap kept Starscream up to date on his polls. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}} Rattrap was also present at the trial itself. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|Predestination: A Beginner's Guide}}

Six months later, Starscream had begun rebuilding his power base in Metroplex, who had integrated himself with the ruins of Iacon. The Titan was still struggling to recuperate from his many injuries, and blackouts plagued the city. Rattrap was present when [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] met with Starscream to discuss the state of the city, although he was confused as to why everyone referred to Windblade and [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] as "[[Female Transformer|she]]". {{storylink|A 'Bot and Her City}} After Windblade was injured by a mysterious explosion, Rattrap and Starscream visited the Cityspeaker. {{storylink|Windblade issue 2|Windblade vol. 1 #2}} When Windblade and some of her allies investigated the lowermost workings of Metroplex, Starscream and his [[Terrorcon]]s arrested Windblade and some of her co-conspirators after a fight. Rattrap tortured Windblade for information about Chromia's whereabouts and the real reason why she had come to Cybertron. Windblade accused him of trying to kill Metroplex, believing that he had caused the explosion on Starscream's orders. Rattrap was confused by the accusation. {{storylink|Windblade issue 3|Windblade vol. 1 #3}} He later stopped with the recently revived Wheelajck from seeing Starscream, as his boss as in the throes of a particularly violent nervous breakdown. Among Starscream's many concerns was the not-unfounded fear that Rattrap wanted him dead because then he'd get his job. {{storylink|The World of Tomorrow}}

With Cybertron gearing up for an official first contact with [[Caminus]], Rattrap was present as Windblade and Optimus debated foreign policy with Starscream.{{storylink|First Contact (IDW)|First Contact}}

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What Starscream didn't realize was that Rattrap- correctly guessing that his boss would annex Caminus and turn it into a puppet state- had made a deal with Prowl. After watching Starscream throw Swindle in prison, Rattrap slipped back to Metroplex, where he activated the space bridge and summoned Prowl and the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]]. {{storylink|The Possible Light}} He wasn't happy to learn that Prowl's plan amounted to becoming [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and smashing the space bridge to cut Cybertron off from the galaxy. {{storylink|Mistakes and Mayhem}} With time running out, Prowl activated his contingency plan: roping Rattrap into stealing the [[Enigma of Combination]] from under Starscream's nose and delivering it to Prowl. Prowl used it on himself and some bystanders to create [[Optimus Maximus (G1)|Optimus Maximus]] {{storylink|You, Me, and the Universe}}, who managed to save the day. With Prowl's machinations in pieces, Rattrap was appointed the first delegate for Cybertron on the [[Council of Worlds]]. {{storylink|All That Remains}}

Rattrap still wasn't ready to count himself out of the game: after a disastrous reconciliation attempt between Prowl and Optimus Prime, Rattrap spirited Prowl's broken body away, vowing that the former tactician had promised Rattrap a victory... {{storylink|Now and On Earth}}

With both Windblade and Starscream off-planet, Rattrap secretly bridged to the planet [[Eukaris]], one of the many lost Titan colonies. The [[beast mode]] Transformers there weren't expecting to see a fellow beast-bot claiming to represent Cybertron, although [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] wasn't interested in listening to the "vermin". Rattrap managed to win support for his cause from [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] and [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]], leader of the [[Fur Walkers|Fur Walker]] tribe. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 6|Windblade vol. 2 #6}}

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Back at Starscream's side, Rattrap was present when Cybertron opened negotiations with the planet [[Velocitron]], although neither Windblade or Starscream appreciated his comments about Velocitronian society. He later went behind Starscream's back to help Windblade and a small contingent of Autobots use the space bridge to get to Velocitron. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 4|Windblade vol. 2 #4}} After Starscream and Windblade agreed to travel to Eukaris together, Rattrap slipped Windblade some information on how to get the Eukariens to join the Council of Worlds. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 6|Windblade vol. 2 #6}} Rattrap got on Chromia's nerves as the pair waited on Cybertron, and was present when the two fliers departed for [[Carcer]]. {{storylink|The Will of the Few}} With Starscream in a bad mood, Rattrap went along with his boss's harebrained scheme to found a [[Chosen One Day|new holiday]], and although it didn't go to plan he nevertheless gave Starscream the gift of friendship for a night. {{storylink|Choose Me}}

Rattrap later informed Starscream that the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]]s wanted to have a word with him. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 1: Aphelion|Aphelion}} After Optimus declared Earth a member of the Council of Worlds, Rattrap participated in the emergency meeting that followed. {{storylink|New Worlds Order}} The Council later met with Optimus to hear his side of the story. Although Prime insisted that his intentions were pure, its members unanimously voted against allowing Earth a seat on the council.{{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 3: The Medium and the Message|The Medium and the Message}}

When [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] reported to the Council that someone in the Badgeless was doing [[mnemosurgery]] on random Decepticons, Rattrap took the same line as Starscream: this was a purely ''domestic'' issue and thus not Council business. This failed and when anti-Badgeless riots and protests broke out over a murder, Rattrap suggested, and Starscream rejected, that they called Earth to get [[Victorion]] sent over to enforce the law as nobody on Cybertron had an issue with her. When Starscream got pushed into putting Ironhide in charge of the Badgeless, Rattrap was the one pushing him to make a response to the public to show he was the one behind it really. {{storylink|Applicable Skills}}

Rattrap accompanied Starscream as they watched Optimus try to deflect the Cybertronian press while simultaneously fending off an EDC attack; Rattrap commemorated the occasion by preparing a bag of Energon goodies. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 4: It's Beginning To And Back Again|It's Beginning To And Back Again}} He was less excited to see Optimus raise a slumbering Titan from beneath [[Monument Valley]], {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 5: As Above...So Below|As Above...So Below}}, and recognized it as the same Titan that had proclaimed Starscream as the Chosen One. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights}}
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===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
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As one of the Maximals forced to continue the war which the Autobots were no longer able to fight, Rattrap was part of a small team under the command of [[Optimus Primal]] that went up against the [[Darksyder]]s. As things quickly went south, he realized the futility of the war, and went on to become part of a resistance cell fighting against the status quo. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 25|"TransTech" Blackarachnia's profile in Club magazine #25}} At one point he even went so far as to fake his own death, encouraging reports that he'd died on the road to [[Damaxus]]. Hoping to free [[Dinobot (BW)#Beast Wars: Uprising|Dynobot]], he and his cell infiltrated the [[Ferromax Detention Center]] and managed to find and liberate ol' Chopperface. {{storylink|Alone Together: Prologue|Prologue}}
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===''Transformers Legends'' comic===
Rattrap of the [[Legends Universe]] was a rookie salaryman at [[Axalon Trading Company]] who'd grown up with ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' and loved collecting the accompanying toys. At one point he set his sights on a [[BotCon 2006|Dawn of Future's Past]] boxset, but his attempts to telepathically force the [[Ravage (G1)|toy store owner]] to put the toys aside until he could afford them ended in failure. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 1}} On his first day at work, he introduced himself by telling everyone of his love for ''Beast Wars'', though most of his co-workers had never heard of it and president [[Optimus Primal]] thought he was talking about the [[live-action film series]], to Rattrap's annoyance. Manager [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], on the other hand, was also a Transformers fan, and the two hit it off quite well until Rattrap realized the older man was talking about [[The Transformers (franchise)|Generation 1]], not ''Beast Wars''. {{storylink|The Generation Gap}} A similar gap grew between him and young part-timer [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]], a fan of the live-action movies who thought Rattrap's beast toys looked gross. In response, Rattrap showed Silverbolt updated toys from the ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Telemocha]]'' and ''[[Beast Wars Reborn|Reborn]]'' series, but accidentally let slip that these remakes didn't sell very well. {{storylink|The Youth Gap}}

While it was expected that Axalon employees use their robot modes while working, it being their "serious adult" mode, Rattrap instead worked in beast mode then transformed to go toy shopping when the work day was over. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 4#The Transformation Gap|The Transformation Gap}} He was smitten by co-workers [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] and [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]], and left confused when Rhinox told him there were no women employed at Axalon. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 4#The Gender Gap|The Gender Gap}} [[Tigatron]] approached Rattrap to talk about Transformers, but Rattrap quickly realized he only liked series with cute girls in them and asked if Tigatron knew anything about ''Beast Wars''. To his exasperation, all Tigatron could remember was the [[Blackarachnia (BW)#TM2|Transmetal Blackarachnia]] toy's removable chest armor. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 5#The Bishōjo Fan Gap|The Bishōjo Fan Gap}} Rattrap and Rhinox later watched Airazor serving tea and wished he wasn't a man. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 5#The Gender Gap Part 2|The Gender Gap Part 2}}

Together with his fellow fans, Rattrap visited the [[Transformers Celebration 2014]], where he bought ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (franchise)|Age of Extinction]]'' [[Dinobot (AOE)|Dinobot]] toys and was elated to get one signed by [[Hisashi Yuki]], designer of [[Lio Convoy]] and [[Big Convoy]]. {{storylink|Legends Bonus Vol.}} As they looked over the toys they'd bought, Rattrap poked fun at Silverbolt's [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#AOELeader|Optimus Prime]], saying its [[kibble|backpack]] made it look like Prime was going hiking. When Silverbolt transformed Rhinox's [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#EvasionMode|Classic Optimus Prime]], Rhinox got violently upset at its movie-based robot mode and Rattrap had to physically restrain him. Rattrap himself showed off his [[Grimlock (AOE)#Voyager|Grimlock]] and [[Slug (AOE)#Generations|Slug]] toys, and the three cracked jokes about their weapons' resemblance to food and utensils until they all got hungry. {{storylink|TF4 Toy Party}}

Rattrap and his pals also went to [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2014, but were left discouraged after running into Optimus Primal, who questioned what a bunch of adults were doing at a toy show. They regained their faith in their hobby upon seeing ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Star Saber (Victory)#Masterpiece|Star Saber]], aimed at adult fans like them, though Rattrap was left appalled by Rhinox's attempts at dancing to an ''Age of Extinction'' song for kids. He had a fangasm upon seeing ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' characters at the show, gushing to the others about all the ''Beast Wars'' references had been in it. After watching Primal and [[Optimus Minor|his son]] play with a Transformer together, Rattrap and the others warmed up to the idea that the franchise was definitely for children after all. {{storylink|Tokyo Toy Show 2014 Report}} Rattrap and Silverbolt later listened to Rhinox sing the praises of his beloved 1980s, and though they had no nostalgia for that century and were ready to leave, they ended up being interested by the fact that Japan had no consumption tax back then. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 9#The Era Gap|The Era Gap}} Intending to solve the mystery of Airazor and Nightscream's genders, Rattrap checked which restroom they used, only to find, to his confusion, that their company had an {{w|otokonoko|"otokonoko"}} restroom in place of a women's one. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 9#The Bathroom Gap|The Bathroom Gap}}

When Optimus Primal headed out, leaving his employees with strict orders not to touch his bananas, Rattrap and the others found his warning so tempting that they immediately hosted a banana party and gobbled them up. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 10#Even Though I Told You Not To...|Even Though I Told You Not To...}} As punishment, Primal assigned [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] as Rattrap's trainer, and the frightened rat quickly found ''himself'' a target for someone's appetite. He managed to make the best of it, though, and continued working even when he was stuck in Dinobot's jaws. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 11#The Two's Recent Encounter|The Two's Recent Encounter}} Dinobot also mocked his interest in kids' toys, so Rattrap challenged him to transform a [[Mach Kick]] as proof that Transformers could be hard to figure out for adults too, but to his horror, the hungry and impatient raptor ended up eating the toy instead. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 11#When We Have Been Social|When We Have Been Social}} Having found his trainer's weakness for figuring out Transformers, Rattrap continued to prank him by replacing his office supplies with ''[[Transformers Device Label|Device Label]]'' toys, only for these to end up in Dinobot's belly as well. When Dinobot wanted an ice cream, Rattrap tried again by giving him a plastic [[Gari Robo-kun]], but was left lamenting his own stupidity when Dinobot inevitably ate it anyway. {{storylink|Prank}}

One day, Rattrap woke up in the body of an actual realistic Transformer, which he naturally thought was awesome. His co-workers didn't agree, especially after he brought out his weapons at work, and Primal forced him to go to the hospital where he was diagnosed with [[Transformers sickness]], caused by being surrounded by Transformers toys for a prolonged period of time. He refused to get rid of his toys, however, preferring to live life with a Transformer body rather than lose his collection. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 1|Bonus Edition Vol. 1}} Becoming something of a superhero, Rattrap intervened when Optimus Primal was also turned into a Transformer and lost control of his weapons, using his knowledge of Primal toys to transform him into his harmless gorilla mode. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 2|Bonus Edition Vol. 2}} At another point, Rattrap woke up in a [[technorganic]] body that he thought looked weird, like some sort of modern art. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 15#LG03 Tankor Prologue|LG03 Tankor Prologue}}

When Rhinox was turned into [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]] and began using his "80s Transformation Beam" to turn stuff around him into their 80s counterparts, Rattrap was offended to see his precious ''Beast Wars'' DVD set turned into ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' on VHS. Having learned to transform between his normal and Transformer forms by now, he turned into a Transformer and defeated Tankor and his [[Tank Drone]]s with a bomb. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 3|Bonus Edition Vol. 3}} Tankor resumed his attacks after creating two new minions, [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] and [[Roadbuster (G1)|Roadbuster]], {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 4|Bonus Edition Vol. 4}} and the latter used the 80s Beam to turn Rattrap into a ''[[Choro-Q]]'' mode. In an attempt to stop Tankor, Rattrap deliver an impassioned speech about how the old days were never forgotten and how new generations of Transformers exist ''thanks'' to the 80s, causing Tankor to reflect on his lifelong enough for Rattrap and the defected Whirl to defeat Roadbuster and send the villains fleeing. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 5|Bonus Edition Vol. 5}} That [[Christmas]], Rattrap partied with his co-workers and confused Dinobot by gifting him a [[Heinrad (BWN)|Heinrad]] toy. {{storylink|Merry X'mas!!}}

Rattrap later met the interdimensional visitor [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Gelshark]], explaining to him that Transformers were fictional in their world and that he wasn't super popular compared to the big-name characters (though Rattrap himself liked him). {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 6|Bonus Edition Vol. 6}} He later watched in awe as [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] defeated Tankor, turning him back into Rhinox. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 7|Bonus Edition Vol. 7}} Being a small guy, Rattrap harbored regrets over his stature that led to his encountering the two [[Minibot]]s [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] and [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] in a dream. As he watched them get defeated by [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], he wondered why they'd even try to take on such a huge enemy, and was told by the optimistic Swerve that brains and guts are more important than size. After meeting the two's [[Mini-Con]] partners, which were as small as him but still valued allies, Rattrap felt betteer about himself and cheered the Autobots on. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 8|Bonus Edition Vol. 8}} Rattrap went on to ask Swerve some questions regarding his few appearances in the cartoon and new name,
and was really impressed by Swerve's cool, laid-back answers that those things weren't important to him. He then watched Swerve try to hit Trypticon with Phaser's weapon mode, commenting that Phaser's attempts to correct his aim was also warning Trypticon where he was aiming. {{storylink|2015's Swerve}}

Rattrap also dreamt about [[Brainstorm (G1)|Cana]], who taught him about [[Transtector]]s as an example of growing larger and stronger through practice, a lesson that inspired Rattrap to work out more. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 9|Bonus Edition Vol. 9}} He later had another chat with Tailgate, who taught him about the history of the Mini-Cons. Wanting try out being a Mini-Con, Rattrap acted as a weapon for the Autobot and defeated Trypticon with a mighty ribbon bomb. {{storylink|Transformers 2015 Tailgate/G1 Micron Chapter|Tailgate/G1 Micron Chapter}} To Rattrap's shock, his aunt and caretaker [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] was later afflicted by Transformers sickness as well, turning into a giant robot who personally drove him to work when he was late one morning. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 10|Bonus Edition Vol. 10}} Rattrap was present when [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] came to the Legends Universe on a mission to destroy it. Learning from her that their world was one where wishes could come true, he was able to wish [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] into the Legends world to stop the invader. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 12|Bonus Edition Vol. 12}} He later told Rhinox and Tigatron about his close relationship to Arcee, having slept and bathed together with her while growing up, causing them to become increasingly jealous until he explained that that was ''before'' she became a Transformer. {{storylink|Transformers Legends: Arcee Chapter|Arcee Chapter}}

Meeting Cana/Brainstorm again, Rattrap asked a question about his new appearance that caused an argument to break out among the [[Headmasters of Justice]], though as a strict ''Beast Wars'' fan he didn't understand what they were talking about. Having learned the wrong lesson from Cana, he later stole the Brainstorm Transtector and smugly claimed to have "worked hard" to grow large, prompting an angry Cana to combine with it and trap Rattrap with the flip-down [[Tech Spec]] plate. {{storylink|Transformers 2015 Brainstorm Chapter|Brainstorm Chapter}} Together with Optimus Primal and rival company president [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], Rattrap visited a ''[[Q-Transformers]]'' event where they tried out food and drink, bought merchandise, watched a show with [[Ryōhei Kimura]], and all along collected stamps to trade in for snacks. {{storylink|Deckss × Q-Transformers Collaboration Event Report|Deckss × Q-Transformers}} When the Transformer [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] arrived in the Legends world, Rattrap was quick to recognize him. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 23#Lord Megatron Goes to the Legends World|Lord Megatron Goes to the Legends World}}

Finding his collection of beast [[Mini-Con]]s stolen by the [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Armada Megatron]], Rattrap took revenge by taking [[Dragoyell]]'s place when Megatron tried to powerlinx with the Mini-Con. His presence caused Megatron to power ''down'' instead of up, and he fled, leaving Rattrap to squabble with Waspinator over whose Dragoyell it was. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Armada Megatron)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}} Rattrap was visiting Tokyo Toy Show 2015 when [[Scourge (RID)|Black Convoy]] showed up to cause trouble. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Black Convoy)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}} Enjoying the new ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Transformers Adventure]]'' series thanks to its many beast-like characters, Rattrap had a dream about meeting [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], who told him all about his [[Optimus Prime (WFC)/toys#Adventure|latest toy]]. He thought Prime was cool and had a great time playing around in his trailer and inventing a base mode for him. {{storylink|TAV21 Optimus Prime Now on Sale!}} After moving offices to Metroplex, who had crushed the original Axalon building, Rattrap and Rhinox listened to [[Alpha Trion (G1)|the company janitor]]'s explanation of the city-bot's backstory. {{storylink|LG14 Ultra Magnus Prologue#The Mysterious Knowledgeable Grandpa Chapter|The Mysterious Knowledgeable Grandpa Chapter}}

Rattrap was caught in the chaos when the original Megatron and Armada Megatron formed an alliance to conquer the world, {{storylink|LG14 Ultra Magnus Prologue#The Autumn Megatron Festival Chapter|The Autumn Megatron Festival Chapter}} but to his amazement, Alpha Trion had foreseen this and put a stop to them. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 14|Bonus Edition Vol. 14}} He then asked Trion to show off his Mini-Con body's weapon mode, having learned from Tailgate that all Mini-Cons had one, and was taken aback when the sage transformed into a car and claimed it was a shield. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus Sequel#Alpha Trion Chapter|Alpha Trion Chapter}} After getting caught up in a rampage of [[Nightbird (G1)|Nightbird]] clones, {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 15|Bonus Edition Vol. 15}} Rattrap learned from Trion that [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]] would be coming to their world to cause trouble, and used his Transformer body to help greet her with a barrage of firepower. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 16|Bonus Edition Vol. 16}} That [[Halloween]], Rattrap was held at gunpoint by Megatron, who had misunderstood the point of "trick or treat". {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 17|Bonus Edition Vol. 17}}

After enjoying an episode of ''Adventure'' with Tigatron, Rattrap had the idea of using the wish-granting power of the Legends Universe to travel the ''Adventure'' world through their dreams. It worked, but while he was explaining to [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] who they were, Tigatron upset [[Strongarm (RID)|Strongarm]], who locked them both up in [[stasis pod|stasis cells]]. Because of this, Rattrap was late for work that morning, to President Primal's annoyance. {{storylink|Go! Adventure}} He was later curious about Slipstream coming from the ''Animated'' world, and she explained that she'd remodeled her body to include dimension-crossing technology and also to look younger. This caused Arcee to grow jealous, and Rattrap had to tell her she looked plenty young already. He also asked about Slipstream's origin as a clone of [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]], and mistakenly pointed her in the direction of [[Starscream (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Armada Starscream]]. {{storylink|LG-16 Slipstream Sequel}}

Rattrap and his pals were later menaced by Armada Megatron once more, who was now out to steal ''all'' their toys. {{storylink|LG-18 Armada Starscream Super Mode Prologue}} This led to Windblade attempting to destroy the world again, and Rattrap despaired when Armada Starscream tried to sacrifice himself to destroy her. Everything ended peacefully, though, prompting him to celebrate with Waspinator and attempt to claim Armada Megatron's abandoned [[Unicron of Light]] toy. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 18|Bonus Edition Vol. 18}} Rattrap was present when [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] entered the Legends world and had his body remodeled, {{storylink|LG19 Sprung Prologue}} and corrected the newcomer after he mistook Aunt Arcee for the Arcee of his home universe. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 19|Bonus Edition Vol. 19}} Rattrap and a couple others were later temporarily sent to [[Cloud World]] after getting caught up in [[Drift (G1)|Deadlock]] and [[SARA]]'s return. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Deadlock)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}

While visiting the Transformers Fes2016 event, Rattrap bore witness to an unbelievable sight: the appearance of the "real" Rattrap from ''Beast Wars''! Shaking with the simultaneous panic and joy of a fan meeting their idol, he proceeded to ask his alternate self for an autograph. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Rattrap)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}} When the Starscream-possessed Waspinator of the ''Beast Wars'' world attacked Metroplex, Rattrap offered to help his other self fight by transforming into his Transformer mode, but even together they couldn't beat him. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Waspinator)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}} Starscream was vanquished by ''Beast Wars'' Rhinox, who both Rattraps were equally happy to see. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Rhinox)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}} Rattrap was aghast when [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] set out to send all his friends from other dimensions back to where they came from, and when this struggle led to the apparent death of G1 Megatron, he mustered up the courage to place himself in the line of fire and tell Skids to leave their peaceful world alone. His words caused the self-proclaimed peacekeeper to give up his plans on realizing he was the one causing conflict. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 20}}

When the Autobot [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] visited to get Axalon Co.'s help in making [[transtector]]s, Rattrap and Optimus Primal protested that they wanted payment, which led to the Autobots and Axalon merging into one company. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 21|Bonus Edition Vol. 21}} He was then silently present for a bunch of occurances, including [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]'s rampage, {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 23|Bonus Edition Vol. 23}} the [[Headmaster Junior]]s' arrival in the Legends world, {{storylink|LG24 Shockwave & Cancer Prologue}} [[Cancer (Masterforce)|Cancer]]'s first concert, {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 24|Bonus Edition Vol. 24}} Galvatron's return and defeat of [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]], {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 25|Bonus Edition Vol. 25}} and [[T-AI]]'s attempt at arresting the [[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]], {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 26|Bonus Edition Vol. 26}} and was among those subjected to [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]]'s loud music. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 27|Bonus Edition Vol. 27}}

When his company began producing [[Master-Brace]]s that could turn anyone into a Headmaster, Rattrap was thrilled to receive a pair. Thirsting for giant robot bodies of their own, he and the other were convinced by [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] to invade Tera-Kura Co. and steal the Decepticon [[transtector]]s, but combining with the Galvatron body caused Rattrap to be affected by its brainwashing mask and attack Rewind. Fortunately, the braces stopped working and he reverted to his normal self before he could do any harm. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 28|Bonus Edition Vol. 28}} He went on to get upset at [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]]'s harassment of Arcee at a soccer game, {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 29|Bonus Edition Vol. 29}} witness [[Weirdwolf (G1)|Weirdwolf]] lose and find his living transtector, {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 30|Bonus Edition Vol. 30}} and be present for Weirdwolf's attempt to steal the Autobot company HQ, the newly finished Battleship Maximus. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 31|Bonus Edition Vol. 31}}

====The Beast Wars Road Map====
Rattrap was scampering atop of Rhinox's monitor when the latter was contacted by his [[Rhinox (TransTech)|counterpart]] from [[Axiom Nexus]]. {{storylink|The Beast Wars Road Map}}

==Games==
===''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game continuity===
====''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game advertising comic====
Upon arriving on "[[Earth|Planet Energon]]", the dangers of Energon radiation forced the six surviving Maximals and their Predacon adversaries to take on beast alternate forms. {{storylink|Beast Wars: Transformers video game advertising comic}}

====''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game====
{{voiceactor|??? (English), ??? (Japanese)}}

Rattrap joined his fellow Maximals in battling not only an entrenched Predacon threat, but the interdimensional monsters known as the [[Skriix]].

=====Maximal campaign=====
Rattrap was not one of the active members of the ''Axalon'' when it crashed, but rather a dormant protoform. When the stasis pod landed in the "Polluted Area" of the planet, he was rescued by the Maximals and subsequently joined them.

{{Note|Due to the nature of this game, a player may select various individual characters to perform the feats required in every level, and complete the game's narrative. Thus, any playable Maximal can fill the role of protagonist in Maximal Mode, and any playable Predacon can fill the role of protagonist in Predacon Mode. To view the various feats Rattrap can accomplish throughout gameplay in Maximal Mode, it is told on the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (video game)|''Beast Wars'' video game]] page, wherein Rattrap fills the role of the nameless Maximal.}}

Upon having eliminated the Predacon threat, Rattrap was part of Optimus Primal's roll call when he announced that the galaxy was now at peace. Rattrap also commented that the Maximals "survived" and were "the baddest! Yyyyeeeeeaaaah!"

=====Predacon campaign=====
{{note|In the Predacon campaign, the stasis pod that would contain Rattrap is instead rescued by the Predacons, producing [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]. It is thus questionable whether or not Rattrap even exists in this specific version of the Beast Wars.}}

===''Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals'' (N64)===
[[File:N64 Rattrap.jpg|frame|Use the cheat codes or he's not in character!]]
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English), ??? (Japanese)}}

Rattrap displayed an ability to quickly burrow underground in his beast mode, and subsequently erupt from the earth in order to surprise his opponent.

The Beast Wars were ultimately won thanks to a spy mission successfully completed by Rattrap. The resulting sneak attack meant the end of Megatron, who perished in the battle's explosive finale. The remaining Predacon troops were subsequently taken prisoner. The Beast warriors then boarded the ancient Autobot shuttle, and returned to Cybertron. Back on his home planet, Rattrap can finally enjoy peace and tranquility, as he relaxes at restaurants, taverns and bars, proclaiming: "Ahh... Ya know, we're all gonna di... dine!" {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals (N64)}}

{{note|Each character possessed an alternate ending, displayed if the N64 version of the game was beaten with said character. Each character has only their own ending listed on their pages, see the other characters' pages for Rattrap's fate in those outcomes.}}
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===''Transformers: Beast Wars Transmetals'' (PS)===
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English), ??? (Japanese)}}
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===''Transformers Legends''===
During a tectonic upshift, a huge amount of [[Energon]] was exposed. Rattrap and the other Maximals found themselves the victims of a Predacon ambush as they tried to secure the Energon themselves, and the cache ultimately fell into Predacon hands. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Legends)|Beast Wars}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
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[[File:Battle-Tactics-Rattrap-(TM).jpg|thumb|400px]]
Rattrap participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He appeared in multiple different bodies:
*''Rattrap'' — This Super Rare character was available as a reward in the "Beast Wars episode 3" event.
*''Rattrap (TM)'' —
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{{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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==Toys==
{{main|Rattrap (BW)/toys}}

==Notes==
[[File:Concept-Rattrap.jpg|thumb|Handi-capable!]]
[[File:BWRattrapEarlyCGIColorModel.jpg|thumb|Delicious chocolate rats are only available from the finest NYC street vendors.]]
[[File:BeastWarsMetals1 Rattrap beast mode.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|This is why Japan shouldn't touch the fiction. No seriously guys, we [[Dickbot the blender guy|got this]].]]
*He likes plundering, insulting, gambling, and cheese.<ref>Page 10, "Character Profile" in ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]''</ref>
*In an extremely strange precursor of things to come in ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Machines]]'', Mainframe's original concept for Rattrap during ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' was to capitalize on the exposed "brain" of the toy and make Rattrap a deeply flawed character. Originally, Rattrap's scanning and transformation technology was to fail, leaving him basically half-formed, with an exposed brain, wiring, "veins", an asymmetrical body, arms of uneven lengths, and malformed organic sections in [[robot mode]]. On top of all that, he was hooked up to a "colostomy bag-like heating cable" to stress his need for life support. Rattrap's overall story arc would have been, of course, about him accepting and overcoming his near-fatal flaws. This approach was entirely nixed by the limits of CGI in rendering convincing organic innards at the time... and the fact that his model would have been massively far off from the actual toy probably also factored into it. However, the idea of a defective Transformer ''was'' later revisited in season 2 with the introduction of [[Transmutate (character)|Transmutate]]. The idea of Rattrap dealing with the limitations of an "inferior" body seems to surface in ''Beast Machines'' as well.
*An early Mainframe color model for season 1 Rattrap shows his beast mode as brown. Whether his toy was ever intended to be these colors is unknown.
*At one point in the series, Rattrap says, "What in the name of my [[Relatives|great-aunt]] [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] is going on!?" This is an in-joke referring to [[Susan Blu]], who was not only voice director on ''Beast Wars'', but the voice of Arcee in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon series]] and Transmutate in the ''Beast Wars'' episode [[Transmutate (episode)|of the same name]]. He was originally going to say the line again when he saw Transmetal 2 [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] (and she was to reply, "Not your great-aunt Arcee!") in the early script of "[[Crossing the Rubicon]]", but the lines went unused.<ref>Page 96, "Beast Wars Glossary" in ''[[Beast Wars Universe]]''</ref>
*On Transmetal Wal-Mart Rattrap/Packrat: According to [[3H Productions|3H]], they were on the phone discussing exclusives with their at-the-time Hasbro contact, when he (the Hasbro guy) realized that the not-yet-released blue Wal-Mart Rattrap could have been named Packrat. However, it was a few days too late to make the change without a massive production delay. Had he simply been looking at the right wall of his office a few days earlier, which had the Packrat/[[Fractyl]] box-set on it...{{fact}}
*In the jovial Japanese dub of ''Beast Wars'', one of Rattrap's most notable "shticks" was that he would constantly break the Fourth Wall by "smelling" what the audience was eating. For instance, in "[[Tangled Web]]", he randomly announces while sniffing the air "Sato-san's having curry today" and "Tanaka-san's having ramen". Like all characters in the Japanese dub, Rattrap was given a vocal tic that he would mutter and wheeze all the time; in his case it was a high-pitched, protracted, "''kyuuuuuu!''" noise. This vocal tic carried over into the habit of making a "''pikyuu!''" sound whenever he fired his gun (sort of like a kid making a laser blast sound effect while playing pretend).
*To piggyback on the popularity of the ''[[Pokeformers|Pokémon]]'' phenomenon of the late '90s, or perhaps just to parody it, Rattrap's [[beast mode]] in the ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Metals (manga)|Beast Wars Metals]]'' manga was redesigned to resemble ''Pikachu'' heavily. While many characters received "humorous" redesigns for the manga, Rattrap's remains the most reviled.
*By splicing together footage for [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDgP9EbSFm0 their promo], [[Toonami]] allowed Rattrap the distinct pleasure of shooting Jonny Quest and sending him plummeting to a gruesome demise.
*Rattrap makes a blink-and-you'll-miss-him cameo appearance in "Nor Iron Bars a Cage", an episode of Mainframe's ''War Planets'' (AKA ''Shadow Raiders''). He's standing next to Emperor Sternum in a long shot, but sneakily turns into a different animation model entirely for the close-up. The scamp!

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Rattle''' (ラットル ''Rattoru'')
*''French:'' '''Rattrape''' (Canada), '''Rattrap''' (Canada, Transmetal)
*''Italian:'' '''Rattilus''' (original toy), '''Metal Rattilus''' (Transmetal)
*''Korean:'' '''Rattrap''' (래트렙 ''Raeteuleb'', 래트랩 ''Raeteulaeb'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Tà Huēi Shǔ''' (Taiwan, 大灰鼠, "Big Grey Rat"), '''Jīnglíng Shǔ''' (China, 精灵鼠, "Clever Rat")
*''Polish:'' '''Szczurotrop''' ("Rat Trail")
*''Portuguese:'' '''Ratoeira'''
*''Russian:'' '''Krysohvat''' (Крысохват, "Rats Grip")
*''Spanish:'' '''Rattrap''' (Spain), '''Ratatrampa''' (Latin America)

==References==
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Dinobot (BW)

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Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* Transformers Legends comic */

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:''Dinobot is a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] and [[Maximal]] from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

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"You lived like a warrior ans died to an hero." [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/ee52db9e103fd5a8?hl=en&&] ]]








'''Dinobot''' is a Predacon ruled by his sense of honor. He lives to die gloriously in battle. When he aided [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] in the theft of the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], Dinobot believed he was in the pursuit of endless glory. But when he and his Predacon peers crashed on what seemed to be the wrong planet alongside a [[Maximal]] exploration vessel, he rebelled against Megatron and joined the Maximal team. It would be an uneasy alliance, fraught with turns of loyalty and turns of Shakespearean phrase. But it also led to strong friendships and even the salvation of all [[human]]ity.

As befits a warrior of his stature, Dinobot is skilled in all forms of combat. He wields a spinning sword and a [[Cyber-slash tail weapon|rotating blade]], both which are his preferred means of battle, though he has been known to use ranged weapons such as his laser eye-beams or a simple handheld gun. He has threatened to use any and all of these on [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]], with whom he has an intense rivalry. Deep down, he may respect the rodent, but he'll die before he'll admit to it.

Sometimes his name is spelled '''Dynobot'''.

{{bigquote|The question that has haunted my being has been answered: The future is not fixed. My choices are my own. And yet, how ironic, for I now find I have no choice at all! I am a warrior... let the battle be joined.|Dinobot|"[[Code of Hero]]"}}

==Fiction==
===First wave toy bios===
Dinobot clawed his way up to the top through victory after victory. Optimus considers him a natural when it comes to combat expertise. His thirst for battle is unquenchable. {{storylink|Dinobot (BW)#Toys|Dinobot bio}}
{{note|The on-package [[bio]]s of the first wave of Beast Wars toys, predate the development of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon and its backstory. They seem to present the characters as a direct continuation of the previous Autobot/Decepticon conflict, with Optimus Primal actually being a new form of Optimus Prime and Megatron being his Generation 1 counterpart, and their battles taking place on present day, [[human]]-inhabited Earth, rather than in the distant past. Once the cartoon launched, the toyline adjusted itself to match that continuity instead, relegating this one to an aborted [[micro-continuity]].}}

===Cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Scott McNeil]] (English), [[Keiji Fujiwara]] (Japanese)|[[Luiz Carlos de Moraes]] (Portuguese, Season 1), [[Jorge Barcellos]] (Portuguese, Season 2 onwards), [[Federico Romano]] (Latin American Spanish), [[Héctor Cantolla]] (Castilian Spanish), [[Mario Zucca]] (Italian), [[Michel Vigné]] (French), [[Uli Pleßmann]] (German)}}

[[File:BWDinobot arrival.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"Two households, both alike in dignity, in fair... wherever the hell we are."]]
Dinobot was one of a group of rogue Predacons and was party to their theft of the Maximal relic, the Golden Disk. They stole a ship and traveled through a transwarp portal, with the Maximal ship ''Axalon'' not far behind. After a heated space battle over a mysterious planet, both ships were damaged, and they fell blazing towards the ground below.

The entire planet was saturated with [[energon]], so much so that Dinobot and the other Predacons required protection. To this end, organic forms were scanned. In Dinobot's case, ''Velociraptor'' remains buried deep within the volcanic soil of their crash site became the basis for his new form. But the levels of energon were just one problem—this planet looked nothing like [[Earth]], their target destination! As Dinobot ventured outside the base, he blamed [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] for this error and announced his intention to take over the Predacons himself. Megatron laughed and had [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] shoot him over the horizon.

Dinobot, cheated and humbled, took his efforts elsewhere. As the Maximals returned to their crashed ship from an outing, Dinobot was there, blocking the rocky bridge that crossed the waterfall surrounding their new base. This time, he challenged [[Optimus Primal/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]], and for the leadership of the Maximals. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 1)}}

[[File:BWPart1 bridgefaceoff.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"Ill met by moonlight—er, sunlight, proud Optimus."]]
He and Optimus Primal began their fight. It almost ended badly for Primal when the Maximal commander's foot slipped on the edge of the bridge, but Dinobot saved him, as the Predacon believed that a dishonorable death would mean a dishonorable victory on his own part. They continued, but their battle was interrupted by a Predacon attack. After that clash subsided, Dinobot helped the Maximals, leading them to a victory against Megatron when he tried to obtain the bounty of a mountain-sized cache of natural energon. Optimus accepted him into the fold—not as a leader, of course, but still as a valued team member. This didn't sit well with the other Maximals, particularly [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]]. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Part 2)}}

Dinobot provided not only brute force but an understanding of the enemy. A short time afterward, Dinobot was standing with Primal and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] on the bridge of the ''Axalon'' around a holo-map of the Predacon base when Primal suggested that Rattrap go on a scouting mission. {{storylink|The Web}}

[[File:Dinobotbulliescheetor.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"Come not within the measure of my wrath."]]
However, though he was an asset against the Predacons, Dinobot sowed discontent amongst the Maximals' own ranks. Early on, [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] was ordered to his quarters for fumbling the test of an energon monitoring device, and Dinobot suggested to the young Maximal that he secretly test the device himself. This ended in potential disaster when Cheetor unwittingly created an instant-transport stream between the two bases. When [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] used this to infiltrate the Maximal base, Dinobot feigned a desire to team up with him and overthrow Megatron. Lulling him into a false sense of security, Dinobot eventually took care of him with the trash disposal unit—all without firing a shot, and the other Maximals never even knew. {{storylink|Equal Measures}}

[[File:Coc getshorty.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|"The course of true love never did run smooth."]]
Dinobot and Optimus Primal investigated an energy signature detected within the [[Standing Stones]], an enigmatic monument of alien origin. After a clash with Megatron and [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]], the monument came to life and Optimus Primal disappeared before their eyes. When Dinobot woke up, he was in the Maximal CR chamber, as he'd been found stripped down and abandoned outside the base by unknown hands. But that wasn't important-Optimus Primal was gone, perhaps dead! The Maximals quickly tried to select a new leader by [[Democracy|secret ballot]], and Dinobot laughed at them when their vote ended in a tie. No, he would be the new leader-by force, if necessary! However, they were all interrupted by a message from Optimus Primal, who was inside the alien monument. Primal put Rattrap in charge, and the remaining Maximals mounted a plan to extract Primal from the alien construct. After another battle with the Predacons at the Standing Stones, the aliens returned Primal to them, with no explanations. {{storylink|Chain of Command (BW)|Chain of Command}}

When an incoming [[stasis pod]] carrying a potential new Maximal team member was detected, Dinobot refused to let Primal leave without scouting the area outside the ''Axalon'' first himself. Dinobot was convinced the Predacons would try to remove Primal from the equation, as he was their faction's only flying member, and he was right—the Predacons managed to damage Primal enough to keep him out of the race for the pod. Dinobot stayed behind with Primal while the others made a play for the pod on foot. When Dinobot received a transmission indicating the Maximals were having difficulties, he awoke Primal's [[core consciousness]] to consult him. As a result, the two were able to bounce a signal off one of the planet's moons to the dormant stasis pod, beating the Predacons to the punch. [[Tigatron]] joined the team. {{storylink|Fallen Comrades}}

[[File:Better Mousetrap Dinobot.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"Today is a good day for violence!"]]
Soon after, Dinobot and Primal were investigating a second stasis pod when they were suddenly ambushed by Predacons. The Predacons defeated the two and secured the pod for themselves, bringing [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] online. As this was one in a long string of clever coups, this forced Optimus Primal to consider that their team was suffering from an information leak. Primal scapegoated Rattrap, an accusation in which Dinobot took pleasure. Dinobot was all too happy to destroy the alleged turncoat despite the potential hypocrisy of that act. Rattrap subsequently defected, and in the ensuing battle, was ordered by Megatron to shoot Dinobot, his frequent rival. After some hesitation, Rattrap shot Terrorsaur instead and revealed that the entire situation was a ruse by Optimus Primal to detect the real source of the information leak: stolen Maximal codes. {{storylink|Double Jeopardy}}

Childish infighting between Rattrap and Dinobot inadvertently triggered Rhinox's new security program, [[Sentinel (BW)|Sentinel]], before it could be completed. Dinobot and the other Maximals fled the ''Axalon'', while Rattrap stayed inside to combat Sentinel himself. Later, when Sentinel appeared to have shut down, Rattrap was assumed dead. Each Maximal gave a touching eulogy for Rattrap except for Dinobot, who refused to taint Rattrap's memory with lies. It was soon revealed that Rattrap had not perished, but had instead managed to shut off Sentinel.{{storylink|A Better Mousetrap}}

[[File:Dinobotversusplant.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"I will speak daggers to it, but use none."]]
Dinobot joined Optimus Primal on a mission once again, but this time to explore the planet's native organisms. Dinobot considered this work as being beneath him, and in the process found himself assaulted by one of the planet's flora. As Primal considered this a lesson in respect learned, he found himself attacked by one of Scorponok's [[cyberbee]]s. It injected him with a virus that was intended to make him a coward, but instead removed all his inhibitions. Upon returning Primal to the ''Axalon'', Dinobot oddly found himself agreeing that this new bloodthirsty Primal was not a beneficial change. After he failed to solve the problem with the Predacons diplomatically, as Primal would have wanted, it was decided to let the new violent Primal be the new violent Primal. Ultimately, Primal acquired the antidote and woke up with Dinobot standing watch over him. Dinobot assured him that it was merely his shift, and not indicative of his feelings towards Primal—despite having placed a beautiful plant in Primal's quarters. {{storylink|Gorilla Warfare}}

When a Cybertronian probe was detected, Dinobot helped his teammates attempt to contact it, despite the fact he dreaded a return home. After all, he was a criminal even in Predacon terms, and he had no hope for a warm Maximal reception. Somewhat fortunately for Dinobot's potential fate, their attempts to catch the attention of the probe failed when [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]] invented the [[transformation lock lens]]. {{storylink|The Probe}} The issue was raised again when the Maximals thought that the Predacons had been destroyed. Dinobot elected to remain on the planet while the Maximals repaired their ship and launched it. However, just as Dinobot wandered off to explore the world that had become his, he stumbled across the not-so-dead Predacons, who attacked the ''Axalon'' and grounded the Maximals once again. {{storylink|Victory (episode)|Victory}}

[[File:Dinobot mirror.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"A little more than kin, and less than kind."]]
After Dinobot and the other Maximals were saved from a Predacon attack by Rhinox's ingenuity, Rhinox was abducted by the Predacons and reprogrammed into one of them. Optimus Primal waited for this to backfire on them, and when their plot began to unravel, Dinobot joined the Maximals in infiltrating the Predacon base and retrieving their kidnapped comrade. {{storylink|Dark Designs}} Megatron soon set his sights on Dinobot as well. After Terrorsaur buried Dinobot in a cave, Megatron unleashed a [[Clone One|clone of Dinobot]] on the unsuspecting Maximals. Ultimately, Dinobot broke free and returned to the ''Axalon'', where he confronted his clone and ate him. Yes. He ate him. {{storylink|Double Dinobot}}

Not long afterward, Tigatron went missing during a routine scouting report. When Optimus Primal noted that Tigatron was the victim of an aerial attack, Dinobot identified the culprits as Waspinator and Terrorsaur. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}} Dinobot remained at base with Rhinox while the others searched for Tigatron on a mysterious flying island. {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 2}} Dinobot suffered along with his teammates when the energon dampener was stolen from the ''Axalon'', requiring him and the others to stay in [[beast mode]] to avoid energon surges. Between that and sleep deprivation from persistent Predacon attacks, their innate beast instincts began to take over, and the Maximals went feral. It was only through the instruction of Tigatron that they were able to defeat the Predacons and retrieve the dampener. {{storylink|Call of the Wild}}

Dinobot was tested again when he, Cheetor, Rhinox, and Rattrap were blinded by a Predacon attack. They were far from base and completely helpless, so Dinobot immediately began to panic. Rhinox was able to calm him and the others and slowly lead them back to base, using their other senses. They were rescued by Optimus Primal and Tigatron at the foot of the base just as they began to slip into [[stasis lock]]. {{storylink|Dark Voyage}} The Maximals were also visited by the wandering spark of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], who possessed the body of Waspinator and led a successful attack on the Maximal base, resulting in Dinobot receiving critical damage. Forced out of their base, Optimus Primal surrendered the Maximals to Starscream, under the condition that Dinobot be repaired. In exchange, Starscream ordered the Maximals to attack Megatron. Despite his treachery, Starscream himself was deceived, as Dinobot was not as damaged as advertised. He and Primal were able to eject Starscream from Waspinator's body and retake the ''Axalon''. {{storylink|Possession}}

[[File:Dinobottarantulasrattrapthelowroad.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|"Frailty, thy name is Tarantulas!"]]
Once again, the feud between Rattrap and Dinobot led to disaster. Their carelessness indirectly caused Rhinox to be infected with a [[Energon discharge virus|virus]] that caused him to eject energy involuntarily, via hiccups or sneezes or...other means. Optimus Primal ordered the bickering pair to hunt down Tarantulas in his lair and obtain the antidote, figuring they'd either learn to work together or everyone would be destroyed. Unfortunately, the latter wasn't so unlikely an option, as Dinobot and Rattrap's out-of-control behavior toward each other repeatedly sabotaged their efforts to capture Tarantulas. Dinobot was able to grab him just as Megatron arrived, and claimed the spider as a hostage. Megatron did not care and shot them both. Ultimately, the day was saved when Rhinox used his virus against the Predacons, unleashing a mighty explosion from his rear end. {{storylink|The Low Road}}

Despite his increasing loyalty to the team, Dinobot's violent heart occasionally created rifts. Most notable was his reaction to [[Tigatron]]'s pacifism: When the tiger tried to leave the Maximals in grief over the accidental death of his best friend, Dinobot argued vociferously with the "coward". He simply could not comprehend what Tigatron was saying, that in order to stop the fighting, someone had to lay down his weapon. The confrontation with Tigatron revealed more than just Dinobot's warrior ethic. He explained to Tigatron a bit of his motives for turning against Megatron: He feared that if Megatron used Earth's energon supply to wage a new war, Cybertron would burn as a result. Dinobot could only see desertion, and for that he nearly killed Tigatron, who refused to fight back. But Primal interrupted before any damage was done, and Tigatron later came back to battle to save Dinobot from a Predacon attack, making the whole point moot. {{storylink|Law of the Jungle}}

The [[Vok|alien]] mystery that surrounded the planet soon came to a head. When it became apparent that the aliens themselves would visit them imminently, the Predacons surprisingly called for a truce. Tigatron was called to sneak into the Predacon base and find out what had captured Megatron's attention, and Dinobot and the other Maximals staged a non-lethal battle to cover Tigatron's exit, upholding their end of the truce. Dinobot loosened a large boulder out of place, allowing it to crush both Tarantulas and Blackarachnia. {{storylink|Before the Storm}} As expected, the aliens arrived. A wormhole opened up over the planet, and a beam shot down to the surface, where another alien device was activated. Rhinox and Dinobot stayed behind at the ''Axalon'' while the others investigated, but were too engaged by the planet's second moon shifting its shape into a horrible [[Planet Buster]] weapon to notice their base had been compromised. Both Rhinox and Dinobot were removed from the equation by Blackarachnia and Tarantulas. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}} The Maximals returned to find them both welded to the ceiling by cyberwebs. Dinobot and Rhinox were placed inside [[CR chamber]]s as Rattrap and Airazor went to find their unwelcome visitors. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}}

[[File:Dinobotgoldendisks.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"Neither a borrower nor a lender be; For loan oft loses both itself and friend, and borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry."]]
When Dinobot awoke, Optimus Primal was dead, having sacrificed himself to destroy the Planet Buster with a transwarp explosion, and Cheetor and Rattrap had been altered into [[Transmetal]] forms by the resulting [[quantum surge]]. After reluctantly admitting Rattrap's new form was an improvement, he immediately declared himself the new Maximal leader. However, with Primal dead, Rhinox was not in any mood to tolerate Dinobot's outburst and shut him up forcefully. While Rattrap and Cheetor were sent outside to deal with Waspinator and a newly Transmetalled Megatron, Rhinox and Dinobot were stuck with the task of restoring their security systems. They did not account for [[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]], who had also infiltrated the ''Axalon''. Thankfully, Rhinox was able to defeat the Predacon and eject him from the ship. {{storylink|Aftermath}}

With the destruction of the planet's second moon and the stabilization of the planet's natural energon reserves, it became apparent to Dinobot that Megatron was right all along; this was indeed Earth, though in the distant past. Dinobot broke into the Predacon base and stole Megatron's golden disks. He knew that they contained information about the future, and this cut to the core of his being: "If the future is indeed immutably foretold, then my demise is but moments from that confirmation, for I could not live if not the master of my fate." Dinobot hid the disks in a remote location and returned to the ''Axalon'', where Rattrap was having a minor meltdown. Rhinox had hooked himself to a machine with little explanation, and with Tigatron and Airazor on a long-term exploration trip, it fell to Rattrap, Dinobot, and Cheetor to hold off the combined force of the Predacons. Worse yet, Megatron had introduced two new [[Fuzor]]s to his team, [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]] and [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]]. Dinobot grabbed what weaponry he could, and with the other two Maximals engaged the Predacons far from the ship, in hopes that they could keep the Predacons away from whatever Rhinox was trying to accomplish. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 1)}}

[[File:Coming of the Fuzors 2 Dinobot Rattrap.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"A horse! A horse! My kingdom for a horse!"]]
Their efforts, though seemingly doomed, were not for naught. Though Dinobot, Rattrap, and Cheetor fought to near-death, they held off the enemy long enough for Rhinox's gamble to work. He had travelled into the [[Allspark|Matrix]] and retrieved Optimus Primal's spark. Optimus Primal, restored as a Transmetal from a [[blank]] [[protoform]], dramatically turned the tide, saving Dinobot and the others from what would at least have been honorable deaths. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}}

[[File:Maximal No More Dinobot bow.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"Is this a dagger which I see before me, Dinobot, the handle toward my hand?"]]
His desire to discover whether the future could be changed kept Dinobot focused on Megatron's actions. When Predacon installations were placed in a Voyager-disk-like pattern, Dinobot remarked that Megatron's plan proceeded even without the disk's information. Thus, he resubmitted himself to Megatron's command, but the Maximals' influence still showed itself. When he was pitted in a death match against [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] in a bizarre test of loyalty, Dinobot subdued his foe but refused to kill him, offering to train him instead. But Megatron accepted the prodigal son anyway, as long as he returned the original Golden Disk. (He had already given the alien disk to Rhinox.) Dinobot complied. He admitted to himself that by helping Megatron he might be sacrificing his own race, but he had to discover whether his actions were his own or predestined. After the artifact was back in Megatron's hands, Rattrap attacked and was quickly immobilized. As a final test of allegiance, Dinobot was ordered to kill his former teammate. This task proved too much for him, and he turned once again on the Predacon leader. Megatron retreated with the disk in his possession, and Primal was left with the decision on whether to allow Dinobot back into their ranks. Dinobot explained that either way, he would fight Megatron, prompting Primal to forgive Dinobot his treacherous actions. Once welcomed back, Dinobot told Primal of Megatron's ultimate designs for the disks' information. {{storylink|Maximal, No More}}

[[File:BWDinobot decision.jpg|left|upright=1.66|thumb|"To Bay or not to Bay; that is the question, and here is the sunset."]]
As Rhinox and Dinobot scanned known alien sites, they suddenly realized that Tigatron and Airazor were journeying into one. But before they could send a warning, the traveling pair triggered the alien site and were shot into space. Dinobot and the other Maximals were rallied by Optimus Primal to this site, where they confronted the Predacons. Before the fight could begin, the alien site activated again, creating a massive [[Metal Hunter]], and blasted everyone in the area. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 1)}} The Transformers who had not been altered by the quantum surge lay deactivated, but the Transmetals and Fuzors were unaffected by the Metal Hunter's blast. Silverbolt and Cheetor were instructed to carry Dinobot and Rhinox back to the base for repairs. Megatron used the alien disk to activate the Metal Hunter, and the Maximals gained an unlikely ally: Tarantulas. Dinobot, like his fellow Maximals, greeted the Predacon turncoat with bared weapons and only reluctantly allowed Tarantulas to aid them. Subsequently, Dinobot joined an assault on the Metal Hunter itself, a cover for Tarantulas's entry. The Metal Hunter was destroyed. {{storylink|Other Visits (Part 2)}}

When Silverbolt went missing during an energon storm while he, Cheetor, and Optimus Primal were investigating [[Rampage (BW)|Protoform X]], Dinobot suggested they forget the Fuzor and concentrate on the Predacons. The enemy was, after all, minus both Tarantulas and Blackarachnia, while they were only down one member. Primal rejected Dinobot's lack of sympathy. As Primal and Cheetor left to find Silverbolt, Dinobot turned to one of the ''Axalon'''s consoles and began downloading into its database. {{storylink|Bad Spark}}

Unlike Primal, Rattrap was not so forgiving of Dinobot's earlier betrayal. After contemplating suicide and enduring Rattrap's continuing recriminations, Dinobot decided to set things right. He tracked Megatron down and found him testing the original disk which Dinobot had returned. Megatron had discovered a mountain whose image was recorded on the disk, and he had [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] destroy the peak. From a distance, Dinobot saw his greatest hope and worst fear form simultaneously: The disk's image changed. Dinobot's future was his own...but Megatron had virtually limitless power to change it.

[[File:Dinbot funeral.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|"Out, out, brief spark! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor mech that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more."]]
When the Predacons launched an attack on a tribe of [[protohuman]]s, attempting to destroy the future human race and alter the course of the Autobot/Decepticon war, Dinobot singlehandedly took on all of them. Having already been blindsided by Tarantulas (and having squashed him under a rock in retaliation), he ambushed Inferno, burying his sword in the latter's chest. Blackarachnia banged him up with her machine guns until Dinobot used Inferno himself as a shield, after which he blew away both Predacons with the ant-bot's own gun.

Dinobot proceeded to bombard Rampage from above until Waspinator shot him down (and caused him to land on top of the luckless flier); when Rampage tried to retaliate in tank mode, Dinobot shoved the downed Waspinator into the mad experiment's cannon, causing Rampage to blow himself apart. The backfire sent the warrior flying with severe damage, and Quickstrike was eager to add to his pain. Despite his optic weaponry shorting out, Dinobot still managed to beat the Fuzor, pummeling him with his bare hands before slamming him head-first into a rock.

At this point, his internal computer attempted to engage stasis lock to save his remaining energy, but Dinobot overrode it and turned to face his final opponent: Megatron himself. Mocking the weakened Dinobot, Megatron tallied the score firmly in his own favor: He had unimaginable power via the Golden Disk, he held a lone protohuman hostage, and the severely damaged Dinobot was the only obstacle in his reality-warping plan. Mostly depowered, severely outmatched, and refusing to quit, Dinobot jammed a rock through a stick and attacked with the makeshift hammer. As the protohuman's bonds dissolved, Megatron dropped the disk, allowing Dinobot to shatter it with his last bit of energy.

The rest of the Maximals arrived to drive Megatron off, but it was too late for their comrade. After a final conversation with his allies (including a last insult to Rattrap and a request to have his story told truly and without embellishment), Dinobot's spark left his frame. He was given a hero's funeral, with his body cremated as the Maximal fliers executed a [[wikipedia:Missing man formation|Missing man formation]]. His legacy remained even with the anthropoids, who found his hammer and used it as a weapon. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}

Megatron, because that's the sort of prick he is, created a zombie-esque [[Dinobot II|Transmetal 2 clone]] of Dinobot. {{storylink|Feral Scream Part 1}}

Later, to convince Rattrap to let him search for ex-Predacon [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], Silverbolt reminded him he'd trusted the original Dinobot. Rattrap grumped that he'd "regretted it" a few times, but still let his comrade out. {{storylink|Proving Grounds}}

[[File:Dinobotflashesnem1.jpg|left|380px|thumb|Behold, the enemy within!]]
Thanks to the destruction of [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]], the Dinobot clone's spark-brother, Dinobot's consciousness was able to take hold of the clone and make him regain a sense of honour. {{storylink|Transformers Hall of Fame}} {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}

{{note|It was not entirely spelt out during "Nemesis" why Dinobot II was regaining Dinobot's memories. The 2010 Transformers Hall of Fame profile for Dinobot stated that the original's spirit had somehow returned from beyond to influence his clone. There was also an unproduced episode of ''Beast Wars'', "[[Dark Glass]]", where Rattrap would have discovered and downloaded a back-up of Dinobot's memories into Dinobot II; while the script never made it past a first draft, "[[Bad Spark]]" had Dinobot backing himself up onto the Axalon.}}

====Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity====
=====''Cloud''=====
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=====''Beast Wars Diorama Story''=====
Dinobot eventually met up with several [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s from [[Transformers (film)|another dimension]]. A battle broke out between the Maximals, Predacons, Autobots and Decepticons. The other-dimensional Transformers eventually returned to their place of origin and the Beast Wars continued as they were. {{storylink|Transformers: Beast Wars Diorama Story|Beast Wars Diorama Story}}
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====''Transformers: Dinobots'' packaging blurb====
When Dinobot's spark returned to the [[Allspark]], the "data" contained in his "DNA schematics" returned with him. Later, to combat Megatron's [[technorganic]] virus the [[Oracle (BM)|Oracle]] reformated a small group of survivors using these "DNA schematics" from Dinobot, creating the Beast Machines era [[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobots]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Dinobots}}

====3H comics====
After using the [[Divine Light]] to access [[Primus]]'s power, [[Cryotek (Universe)|Cryotek]] reanimated several [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]] corpses into facsimiles of [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s old subordinates, including one of Dinobot in his pre-Earth vehicular form. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

====Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity====
[[File:Dinobotmtmte8.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|Little did we know that there was a giant shovel on the other arm.]]
During the theft of the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]], [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|He Who Would Be Megatron]] also scanned the historical datatrax of the [[Autobot]]s and [[Decepticon]]s. He failed to notice the approaching guard until Dinobot dispatched him with his sword and insisted they speed up the operation. {{storylink|Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets The Eye #8}}
{{BW Shell Game}}
While traveling back to Cybertron at the conclusion of the Beast Wars, Optimus Primal reflected on past battles, including those in which Dinobot fought. {{storylink|Shell Game issue 1|Shell Game #1}}
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====''Transformers Legends'' anthology====
While Megatron was being guided through the afterlife by Rhinox, he beheld a vision of himself slaughtering his allies and foes alike, Dinobot among them. {{storylink|Singularity Ablyss}}

====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
Near the end of the Great War, several combatants had been reduced to protoforms due to the fallout of a foiled [[Tripredacus Council]] plot. Among those afflicted was [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], who's stasis pod "Dinobot" came upon as it was being stored away. {{storylink|Dawn of the Predacus}}

As [[Magmatron]] surveyed the events that began the Beast Wars, he witnessed several key moments involving Dinobot, among them his duel with Optimus Primal upon the stone bridge leading to the Maximal base. {{storylink|The Gathering issue 1|The Gathering #1}}

====''Timelines''====
[[File:Dinobotdawnoffuturespast.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|"Keep up your bright swords, for the dew will rust them."]]

After meeting with [[Cryotek (Universe)|Cryotek]], "Dinobot", Megatron, and [[Dirge (BWII)|Dirge]] broke into the [[Cybertropolis Maximal Data Archive]] to steal a [[Data-Con]] which would provide all sorts of information about the [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden Disk]]. As they were making their getaway, Dinobot threw the Data-Con to Dirge (who was unaware of a switch on Megatron's part) before battling a squadron of [[Maximal Command Security Force|Maximal Security Troopers]], ending with a close combat duel with [[9K]] using his then energy-based sword. Dinobot evidently emerged victorious, as he was later seen with Megatron and "[[Scorponok (BW)|Clamps]]". {{storylink|Theft of the Golden Disk}}

Megatron and Dinobot joined [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] in escaping the archives with the Golden Disk, avoiding patrolmen [[Nitrostreak|Unit 1]] and [[Tigatron|Unit 2]]. As Dinobot disabled the former, he protested Megatron's apparent cowardice and dishonorable tactics. Megatron responded by clamping his fist around Dinobot's neck, rebuking him for using the "h" word in his presence. After Dinobot had regained his composure, they made their way to the rendezvous point with the ''[[Darksyde (BW)|Darksyde]]'' and launched into space, where they activated their transwarp drive.

The ''[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]]'' and the ''[[Chromia 10]]'' gave chase, though the latter was destroyed by [[Laserbeak (G1)|unknown]] [[Buzzsaw (G1)|assailants]]. When the ''Axalon'' caught up with the Predacons, Dinobot balked at the idea of fleeing again and managed to fire a few shots at the ''Axalon''. After Megatron taunted the pilot of the ''Axalon'' via videoscreen, Dinobot and the other rogue Predacons on board the ''Darksyde'' disappeared through a transwarp portal, with the ''Axalon'' close behind. {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}

After [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] was reborn on [[Earth]], Dinobot rushed out to assist the Maximals against the Predacons during a plot to launch an orbital weapon. The launching pad was destroyed by Airazor just as Dinobot arrived. {{storylink|The Razor's Edge}}
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====Razorclaw continuity====
In one splinter timeline of [[Primax 496.22 Alpha]], minor atmospheric perturbations caused [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]'s stasis pod to crash on the far side of Earth, and absent his presence, Megatron slaughtered all the remaining Maximals except [[Tigatron]] and [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 7/8/2015}}

===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga===
Following the [[Quantum surge]], Dinobot, as well as many other Maximals, became separated from the rest of the team and left stranded somewhere on [[Earth|Energoa]]. After Optimus Primal's resurrection and escape from Megatron, Dinobot could be seen watching the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]] from somewhere off in the distance. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 1|Beast Wars Metals #1}}

Dinobot eventually got in contact with his Maximal comrades and revealed he was recovering in a [[protohuman]] village. The village was promptly attacked by [[Jaguar]] and Dinobot died defending the protohumans. Optimus Primal showed up and, swearing to avenge Dinobot's death, killed Jaguar in battle. {{storylink|Beast Wars Metals issue 3|Beast Wars Metals #3}}

===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in manga===
[[File:Henkeimanga-Dinobot.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Who's got two thumbs on one hand except for when I switch to my fists? THIS guy!]]
In the present day, the [[Autobot]] [[Mini Vehicle]]s dug up the bodies of [[Hot Shot (Henkei!)|Hot Shot]] and Dinobot from deep within the earth. As the Mini Vehicles wondered if Dinobot were an Autobot, he woke up angrily, and began to attack the others, hoping to find a worthy foe, until finally Hot Shot (and his [[Mini-Con]], Jolt) faced Dinobot in battle. After seeing Hot Shot perform a series of clever moves, Dinobot suggested the two battle for leadership. However, Hot Shot declined Dinobot's offer and suggested instead they team up and make peace.

Hot Shot returned with Dinobot to Autobot headquarters, where [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] immediately suggesting he and Dinobot fight each other for fun, ruining Hot Shot's ceasefire. {{storylink|Henkei! Henkei! volume 11}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei! Transformers -Visualize-''===
[[File:Visualize Shot 13.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
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===''Kre-O'' comic===
[[File:KreO-webcomic-4-Dinobot.jpg|75px|thumb]]
Dinobot had himself a hearty laugh when [[Megatron (Kre-O)|Megatron]] attempted to replicate [[Optimus Prime (Kre-O)|Optimus Prime]]'s new clear-torso'd power-up via a see-through negligee. {{Storylink|Wheeljack's Bizarre Invention! Optimus Power Up!?}}
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===''Beast Wars: Uprising''===
[[File:AloneTogetherP-Dynobot.jpg|left|thumb|300px]]
One of a number of Maximals and Predacons who rebelled against the status quo of continuous war on the say so of their Autobot and Decepticon masters, Dynobot was captured and placed in the maximum security level of the [[Ferromax Detention Center]]. There he stayed until a group of Maximals led by Rattrap broke him out in a daring raid. {{storylink|Alone Together: Prologue|Prologue}}
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===''Transformers Legends'' comic===
[[File:LegendsChristmasDinobot.jpg|right|thumb|300px|God dang it Cheetor. This is the 3rd time this week. And its only Tuesday!]]

Dinobot was an employee of [[Axalon Trading Company]] whose solution to most problems was to eat them. During one busy day he was being rushed by their boss, Optimus Primal and complained that he needed help if he was supposed to get done any faster. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 4#The Transformation Gap|The Transformation Gap}} When he was introduced to the new junior employee, Rattrap, the first thing Dinobot did was try to eat him. Rattrap wouldn't let this get to him, though, and continued doing his job even while stuck in the raptor's mouth. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 11#The Two's Recent Encounter|The Two's Recent Encounter}}

Dinobot made fun of Rattrap for collecting children's toys, but a defensive Rattrap argued that Transformers could be really difficult to transform and challenged him to transform a [[Mach Kick]]. He was unable to make heads or tails of the toy, so in the end he gave up and simply ate it, to Rattrap's horror. {{storylink|Legends Vol. 11#When We Have Been Social|When We Have Been Social}} Rattrap took revenge by replacing Dinobot's office supplies with ''[[Transformers Device Label|Device Label]]'' toys, forcing him to transform them before he could get any work done. This backfired on him when Dinobot ate these toys as well. On a hot day he demanded Rattrap bring him an popsicle, only to receive a plastic [[Gari Robo-kun]] transforming popsicle instead. Naturally, he proceeded to eat it anyway, leaving Rattrap despairing that he should've seen it coming by now. {{storylink|Prank}}

For [[Christmas]], Rattrap gifted Dinobot the alarm clock Transformer [[Heinrad (BWN)|Heinrad]], which mystified him. {{storylink|Merry X'mas!!}} The tall stature of Dinobot and the other Axalon employees was another source of grief for Rattrap, who disliked his small size. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. 8|Bonus Edition Vol. 8}} Dinobot later visited the TransformersFes 2016 event, where he encountered an alternate dimension version of Rattrap. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Rattrap)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:Windblade6-allofus.jpg|left|thumb|300px]]
Dinobot was a resident of the colony world [[Eukaris]], and a member of the [[Scale Walkers|Scale Walker]] tribe. He gathered with representatives of the other three tribes in [[Talon Valley]], in front of a [[Space bridge|spacebridge]] portal, to discuss the [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] [[combiner]]s who had invaded three weeks prior. While declaring he would defend his planet from any invaders, no matter the cost, a traveler from offworld arrived through the portal: [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]]. Dinobot quickly took a disliking to him.

After Rattrap returned to Cybertron with intel, a week later, official representatives from offworld arrived on Eukaris through the portal. Dinobot and [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] were suspicious of them, as they heard of how their kind was once driven away and slaughtered by ancient Cybertronians, but amidst their visitors' pleas for peace, [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] was allowed to speak, as she was not actually Cybertronian, but a [[Caminus|Camien]]. The planet's gigantic guardian, [[Chela]], awoke before their eyes to quell this reunion of worlds, and Dinobot and the others attempted to defend the spacebridge from it, but it was summarily defeated by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]. Dinobot was put off that in spite of the destruction of their legendary guardian, [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] still condoned an alliance. {{storylink|Windblade vol. 2 issue 6|Windblade vol. 2 #6}}

Dinobot begrudgingly (and adorably) gave a gift to his [[Fur Walkers|Fur Walker]] rival Cheetor on Chosen One Day. {{storylink|Choose Me}}
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===''Of Masters and Mayhem''===
[[Thrashclaw]] had a mentor who was a "brown and blue, thick-headed, dynamic" bot who went off with a "[[Megatron (BW)|purple lunatic]]". {{storylink|Life Finds a Way}}

==Games==
===''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game continuity===
====''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game advertising comic====
Upon arriving on "[[Earth|Planet Energon]]", the dangers of Energon radiation forced the six surviving Maximals and their Predacon adversaries to take on beast alternate forms. {{storylink|Beast Wars: Transformers video game advertising comic}}

====''Beast Wars: Transformers'' video game====
{{voiceactor|??? (English), ??? (Japanese)}}

Many Beast Wars combatants had managed to construct personal bases, customized to their personal tastes, due to the extended duration of the war. Dinobot's own was situated in the "Polluted Area" of the planet, where a previous conflict had rendered it a gloomy and dilapidated environment. Dinobot joined his fellow Maximals in battling not only an entrenched Predacon threat, but the interdimensional monsters known as the [[Skriix]].

=====Maximal campaign=====
[[File:BeastWarsPSX-Dinobotstats.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Digital [[Cyber-slash tail weapon|rotate blade]]!]]
Upon having eliminated the Predacon threat, Dinobot was part of Optimus Primal's roll call when he announced that the galaxy was now at peace.

=====Predacon campaign=====
After the Maximals failed to rescue a downed stasis pod in Dinobot's territory, the Predacons took advantage of Dinobot's troops having recently been thinned by a conflict with the Skriix. This left Dinobot vulnerable, leading him to be assassinated by a Predacon agent. In response to Dinobot's death, Optimus Primal launched an unsuccessful attempt on the Predacon ship, which ultimately led to the Maximals' undoing. {{storylink|Beast Wars: Transformers (video game)|Beast Wars: Transformers}}

{{Note|Due to the nature of this game, a player may select various individual characters to perform the feats required in every level, and complete the game's narrative. Thus, any playable Maximal can fill the role of protagonist in Maximal Mode, and any playable Predacon can fill the role of protagonist in Predacon Mode. To view the various feats Dinobot can accomplish throughout gameplay in Maximal Mode, it is told on the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (video game)|''Beast Wars'' video game]] page, wherein Dinobot fills the role of the nameless Maximal.}}

===''Transformers Legends''===
Dinobot was part of Megatron's forces when a huge earthquake uncovered [[Energon]]. He took part in an ambush of the Maximals, so that the Predacons could gain control of this new resource. Also he appeared to have at least two raptor clones backing him up. {{storylink|Beast Wars (Legends)|Beast Wars}}

===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:BattleTacticsDinobot.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Beware my hand-mouth!]]
Dinobot participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was a Super Rare character who could be recruited by collecting 250 units of Cybermetal, 75 units of Transmetal, and 10 cores of this character. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
[[File:BeastWars Dinobot 1996 toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Wasn't he in ''Jurassic Park''? (Hasbro version pictured)]]
[[File:BW-toy DinobotTakara97.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Let's hide the legs in beast mode by making them bright translucent orange! (Takara redeco pictured)]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, [[1996]]/[[1997]])
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-4'''
**''Accessories:'' [[Cyber-slash tail weapon|"Cyber-slash" tail weapon]], sword

:Part of the first wave of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' product, Dinobot transforms into what his bio claims is a "vicious ''[[Popular beast alternate modes|Velociraptor]]''". His tail detaches and separates to form a gear-powered, spinning blade weapon, while the central "tail bone" separates to be used as a sword. The entire assembly can store in [[robot mode]] by flipping down the tail-mount and pegging the blade's base to the peg on his lower back. Like all early Deluxe-and-up ''Beast Wars'' toys, he has a "mutant mask", halves of a dino-skull that flip up to cover his more robotic head.

:The original Dinobots shipped on cards with "rocky"-shaped bubbles. Later (and more numerous) assortments moved to a smooth, rounded bubble, leading the first packaging type to become sought-after collectibles on the secondary market.

:Takara's initial release of the toy was identical to the [[Hasbro]] version (save packaging, of course). In January 1997, Takara [[redeco]]ed many of the ''Beast Wars'' toys and re-released them in slightly more show-like tones; Dinobot's pink was changed to tan, his orange robot eyes became red, his flat blue face became metallic blue, his orange dinosaur eyes became white, and his helmet was painted in metallic gold.

:In 1998, [[TV Magazine]] offered a gold chrome Dinobot as a prize. One individual gold Dinobot was awarded, and one other Dinobot as part of a set of other gold Beast Wars toys.<ref>http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/content.php?/transformers-news/story/10280/Revealed+-+Gold+BW+images+and+info.html</ref>



:This mold was used to make... lots of guys. Other than countless redecos as himself, this mold was also used for ''Beast Wars'' [[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]] and ''[[Transformers: Dinobots|Dinobots]]'' [[Grimlock (Dinobots)|Grimlock]], and was [[retool]]ed extensively to make ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (toyline)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' [[Hardhead (BWN)|Hardhead]], [[Dinotron]], and [[Thrust (BWII)|Thrustor]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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[[File:VS4-DinobotTarantuas.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|I prefer to package my toys the old-fashioned way... BRUTALLY!!!]]

*'''Brutal Showdown: Dinobot VS Tarans''' (VS pack, 1997)
**''ID number:'' '''VS-4'''
**''Accessories:'' sword, [[Cyber-slash tail weapon|"Cyber-slash" tail weapon]]

:In Japan, the Dinobot was available both as an individual and in a two-pack with "[[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarans]]". Both toys in this set were identical to their individual, nigh-identical-to-the-Hasbro-versions releases.

:Currently, it is unknown if the later "show-like" redeco of Dinobot was ever released in a VS set.
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{{anchor|Transmetal}}
[[File:Mcdinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Transforms from ''Velociraptor'' to wolfman.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Happy Meal Transmetal, [[1998]])
**''McNumber'': '''??'''

:Part of the second McDonald's ''Beast Wars'' Happy Meal promotion, [[Transmetal]] Dinobot transforms into a robotic ''Velociraptor''. To tie in with the chrome plastic [[gimmick]] of the retail Transmetal toys, parts of his [[beast mode]] are cast in glittery metallic plastic. Like the other McDonald's toys from this assortment, he shares nothing in common with his previous body other than [[alternate mode]] choice.

:This toy was later [[repurposing|repurposed]] by [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' to represent an [[Dinobot (Transmetal)|initial prototype]] of Dinobot's evil clone, [[Dinobot II]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Transmetal Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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[[File:FK-Dinobot-toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Eww...perhaps using the power sander to buff his scales wasn't a good idea.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Fox Kids Deluxe, [[1999]])
**''Accessories:'' sword, "Cyber-slash" tail weapon

:Part of the first wave of "[[Fox Kids]]" redecoes (so called because of the callout on the package to the Fox Kids programming block where the cartoon had recently moved), this version of Dinobot is more dark brown than the original, with red stripes instead of the original's brown, with a red robot mode face and green eyes. This toy uses the [[retool]]ed mold with the shoulder ratchets and the (unused) "[[rubsign|energon chip]]" space that were created for ''Beast Wars'' [[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]].

:Hasbro solicitations named this toy "Live Wire Dinobot",<ref>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.toys.transformers/C30fV9dqOK0/gPO8D3N_PAUJ</ref> but the name never made it to final packaging.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Maximal/FKDinobot/fkdinobot.htm More information on Fox Kids Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===Beast Wars 10th Anniversary===
[[File:BW10Dinobot toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He disagrees with everything that ''T.rex'' says, but you know they're best friends.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Tenth Anniversary Deluxe, [[2006]])
**''Accessories:'' "Energo-drill" sword, spinning blade tail weapon, Transmutate left arm

:This release is yet another redeco of the original Dinobot toy. Though the ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]'' line's aim was "[[show-accuracy]]", the resulting Dinobot toy confused some fans, with its dark brown base color, odd placement of blue, and, mostly, the metallic green on his bone-like decorations. Like the other ''10th Anniversary'' toys, he has a faction symbol tampoed on his body; in Dinobot's case, there's a Maximal logo on the left side of his robot chest. Like FoxKids! Dinobot, this toy has the Energon Chip indent and shoulder ratchets that were added for ''Beast Wars'' Grimlock.

:''Beast Wars 10th Anniversary'' Dinobot came with the left arm to the "build-a-bot" figure [[Transmutate (character)|Transmutate]], plus a DVD containing the obvious Dinobot-themed episode, "[[Code of Hero]]".

:Unfortunately, Dinobot is ''highly'' susceptible to [[Gold Plastic Syndrome]]; basically any part of him is made of metallic gold plastic which seems to have hit their expiration dates around 2013, making him highly fragile.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on 10th Anniversary Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===Timelines===
[[File:Botcon2006Dinobot toy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Can you dig it?]]
*'''Dawn of Future's Past''' (Multi-pack Deluxe, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Golden Disk Key

:Part of the five-toy [[BotCon 2006]] [[exclusive]] boxed set (along with [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]], [[Optimus Primal/toys|Optimus Primal]], [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]], and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]), "Darksyde Dinobot" is a redeco of the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Longrack (Cybertron)|Longrack]] mold, itself a [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Hoist]]. Dinobot uses almost all of Longrack's new-mold parts save for the head; Hoist's was a dead ringer for Dinobot in the first place. He transforms into a Cybertronic excavator. Inserting a [[Cyber Key]] or [[Cyber Key|Golden Disk Key]] into his shoulder assembly unlocks a shovel-punch attack activated by pressing on the plunger mechanism above the key port. Like Longrack, he does ''not'' come with a [[Mini-Con]] partner. The color scheme is partially based on his ''10th Anniversary'' toy.

:The original version of this mold was also used to make ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Ransack (Universe 2003)|Ransack]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Predacon/BCDinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Timelines Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===Beast Wars Telemocha Series===
[[File:Japanese10thDinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|At last, I CAN TALK!]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, 2006)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TM-05'''
**''Accessories:'' sword, spinning tail weapon

:Celebrating Japan's 10th anniversary of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' (one year later than the West), the [[Transformers: Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Beast Wars Telemocha]] version of Dinobot is yet another (and final?) redeco of the venerable tooling, including the shoulder ratcheting added to the previous Hasbro versions. While definitely more [[Show-accuracy|accurate to the CGI model]] than the Hasbro [[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|10th Anniversary]] version from the previous year, most of its color-scheme decisions favor the robot mode, such as bronze/gold shoulder joints. The result of this is a less consistently colored beast mode than the Hasbro version. It is the first (and only) version of the mold to place deco on the "mutant mask" halves.

:Though there are some colors dropped between the transition from CGI model to toy, Telemocha Dinobot does currently hold the prize for the sheer number of paint applications used on this mold, and by a large margin. Perhaps most significant to many fans, however, is that this version of Dinobot has a mouth, if only in the form of a paint operation.

:This release of Dinobot came with a DVD containing the ''Beast Wars'' episode... "New Weapons of Terror!", the Japanese dub of "[[The Probe]]" and not "Code of Hero".
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2006/Maximal/Dinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Telemocha Dinobot at TFU.info (scroll down)]''
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===Universe (2008)===
[[File:Dinobotuniversedeluxe.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Just in time for the original mold to be practically cheese by now.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, [[2009]])
**''Accessories:'' Tail/missile launcher, missile/sword

:Dinobot transforms into a brown and amber ''Jurassic Park''-style ''Velociraptor'' with a robot mode styled heavily after the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' CGI model, including a face with a nose and mouth. His transformation has been altered to produce more human-like proportions, with his robot legs now becoming the raptor legs and the arms hiding mostly inside the torso. He also sports a fully show accurate robot head which can be raised to a 45 degree angle as well as turn. On his chest is a panel that can swap between a Maximal symbol, a Predacon symbol and a blank third panel (for the beast mode head). His [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] double opposable thumbs can be swapped out for "proper" fists. His tail still detaches and splits to become a weapon, but no longer rotates. Instead, it fires a missile shaped like his sword from the cartoon, which can be held as a sword by either the regular fist or claw hands. The tail can also clip onto his back for storage.

:This toy was also later [[repurposing|repurposed]] as ''Beast Wars Shattered Glass'' [[Dinobot (BWSG)|Dinobot]].
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Predacon/TFUDinobot/dinobot.htm More information on Universe Dinobot at TFU.info]''
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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[File:Henkei Dinobot.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|"Then I'll be brief! Oh, happy dagger, this is thy sheath. There rust and let me die."]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Deluxe, 2009-[[March 12|03-12]])
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-16'''
**''Accessories:'' Tail/missile launcher, missile/sword

:The ''Henkei! Henkei!'' release of Dinobot is in more traditional colors than the Hasbro version, decoed in brown with several tan stripes, plus blue and golden detailing. Clear red plastic replaces the clear orange found on the ''Universe'' version. Like all ''Henkei! Henkei!'' releases he features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum metallized]] parts, particularly his missile/sword.
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===Device Label===
[[File:DeviceLabel-Dinobot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Sorry, you've been replaced.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (Device Label, 2009)
:Dinobot would have transformed from a working USB laser mouse into a brown and gold mechanoid raptor, but an early [[BigBadToyStore]] solicitation for him was almost immediately supplanted by a solicitation for "[[Trypticon (G1)#Device Label|Dinosaurer]]" (Trypticon), once better information was had.
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==Merchandise==
[[File:BWmerch-KabayaDinobotkit.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Hope you like putting stickers over molded detail!]]
*'''Beast Wars Transformers 200 piece puzzle''' (puzzle, 1996)
:A [[Beast Wars Transformers Jigsaw Puzzle|200-piece puzzle]] from [[Milton Bradley]] featured art of Dinobot and [[Razorbeast]] fighting [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] and [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]. It was very chrome-foil-y! [http://tfmuseum.com/tf-00081.html]

*'''Dinobot''' (candy toy model kit, 1997)
:Part of the second wave of [[Kabaya]] model kits (which included Cheetor, Rattrap, and Terrorsaur), Dinobot is a peg-together model kit. The parts come on pink and yellow sprues, plus there are stickers, instructions for assembly, and a stick of terrible gum. Transformation involves removing the tail, robot legs, and robot arms, and pegging them elsewhere as needed.

*'''Dinobot''' (candy toy, 1997)
[[File:BWmerch-KabayaDinobotfigurine.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Eat it, other [[Transformers Hall of Fame|Hall of Fame]] nominees! But don't eat the candy.]]
:A tiny plastic Dinobot figurine molded onto an irregularly-shaped stand was released by Kabaya. Labeled toy 6 of 6, the other characters in his wave were Cheetor, Rattrap, Megatron, Optimus Primal, and Rhinox. They were also available in smokey translucent plastic? [http://tfmuseum.com/tf-01805.html] As always, terrible candy is included.

*'''Dinobot''' (candy toy, 1997)
:A tiny superdeformed Dinobot was also available from Kabaya. It's way too adorable. [http://tfmuseum.com/tf-00714.html]
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===Card games===
[[File:Dinobotmutatingcard.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''' (1997)
:Dinobot was one of the 24 beast warriors to receive a battle card representation for the Beast Wars [[Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game|card game]].
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===Beast Wars Mini-Busts===
[[File:BWDinobot minibust.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Legs are for the weak.]]
*'''Dinobot''' (?)
:In 2006, [[First 4 Figures]] announced a seven-inch tall mini-bust of Dinobot, featuring his upper torso mounted upon a Maximal pedestal. He was sculpted by Ryan Bailey and was to be limited to 1,996 pieces. He is based upon his animated appearance, mounted on a silver pedestal adorned with the Maximal sigil.
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==Notes==
*Like all non-toy robot Kreons in the ''Kre-O'' comics, Dinobot is made from existing ''Kre-O'' parts. He uses [[Ironhide (Kre-O)|Ironhide]]'s helmet in gold.

===Toy related===
[[File:BWRConcept04.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Dinobot's control art. The beast head displays a more rigid grill structure.]]
*Dinobot's original toy was designed to supplant a failed lion Transformer counterpart to Cheetor that ended up being, understandably, too similar to Cheetor. A dinosaur's entry into the Maximals was justified by pointing out that the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] had been good guys in Generation 1.<ref>[http://obscuretf.com/hhk/BC04interviews.html Botcon 2004 Interview with Vinnie D'Alleva], p1-2</ref>
[[File:Dinobottoycommercial.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|An abandoned deco?]]
*In the first ''Beast Wars'' toy commercials, Dinobot had a slightly different deco than the final toy. He was browner, rather than pinker, and had thicker stripes.
*Some fans are inclined to yank off Dinobot's mutant mask pieces, since he doesn't have them on the television show, they get in the way during transformation, and they're easily removable. Ten years later, Hasbro thought so, too, in their stock photography for ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars 10th Anniversary|Beast Wars 10th Anniversary]]'' Dinobot.
[[File:TMDinobotConcept.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Raptor and... squatting Raptor? It's a jet powered squat, surely.]]
*An actual (i.e. non-McDonald's affiliated) Transmetal Dinobot apparently made it to concept art stages, but not much further. Several elements of the design were recycled for Transmetal [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]].
*Dinobot's toy curiously has six toes on each foot. Since his legs form his [[robot mode]] arms, not only does this mean he's left with two thumbs, but also a tiny, barely noticeable finger molded near his wrist. The double thumbs got carried over onto his animation model, yet his in-show beast mode appears to only have three toes. Between all this, it has to be said that real-life raptors had no more than four toes on each of their feet.
*Speaking of inaccuracies, Dinobot's [[beast mode]] barely resembles a [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Velociraptor_dinoguy2.jpg real ''Velociraptor'']. This is most evident by a complete lack of feathers on Dinobot, but it should be noted that evidence of feathers on ''Velociraptor'' was not known until 2007 – although raptors in general were known to have been feathered since the end of the '90s, and in fact, some paleoartists have already been depicting them with feathers since the '80s. The robust head, twisted hands, broad torso and bendy tail (which is only evident in the show) are also seen as inaccurate. All in all, Dinobot's beast mode better resembles the raptors from ''Jurassic Park'', which came out three years before the ''Beast Wars'' franchise, and was likewise accompanied by a toyline from Kenner.
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===Television related===
*At no point in the show do Dinobot and Airazor interact or speak to each other. What a close team. The most interaction they get is standing next to each other at the end of "Before the Storm".
[[File:Dinobotearlycgimodel.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Code of... something.]]
*Several views of preliminary ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' CGI models were available in the Special Features of [[Rhino Entertainment|Kid Rhino]]'s ''Beast Wars: The Complete Second Season'' DVD box set. Dinobot's early model, like the other preliminary models, took more cues from the toy, such as including the [[mutant head]] and actually looking transformable. Interestingly enough, the preliminary model transformed into the final beast mode model, but since Dinobot's transformation involves swapping out parts, that's not too hard to believe.
[[File:Dinobotearlycgimodel2.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|[[Derrick J. Wyatt|Derrick Wyatt]]'s influence reached back through time.]]
*Australia's ''Beast Wars'' DVD sets from [[Madman Entertainment]] offered images of in-progress Dinobot models from later into production. Even in this late stage, he kept a large amount of his transformation kibble, though the aesthetic flourishes (like the spines on his ankles and the ribs in his torso) began to take shape. And, hey, check out that chin.
*In an interview on Madman's Season 3 DVDs, Scott McNeil revealed that he created the Dinobot voice by using his previous experience mimicking [[Chris Latta]]'s famous performance of [[Cobra Commander]] when replacing him in the role after his death. Since he found the Latta-style vocalisation so difficult to maintain, he tried dropping it two octaves, and thus arrived at Dinobot.
*In the Japanese dub of ''Beast Wars'', Dinobot spoke with a protracted and emphatic ''-dā'' attached to the ends of his sentences. This is a vocal tick associated with older, archaic forms of speech, signifying his old-timey sensibilities and concepts of honor.

===Fandom related===
*Some fans humorously refer to Dinobot's [[Cyber-slash tail weapon]] as a "Rotate Blade" because of its usage in a [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/ee52db9e103fd5a8?hl=en& terrible fanfic by MG-Dinobot].
*Likewise, fans refer to Dinobot as having a "rigid grill structure", an injoke that came into being because of an [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/307ed3ad2152d304 alt.toys.transformers poster's] somewhat confusing signature that included a quote from ''[[Mystery Science Theater 3000]]''. What part of Dinobot is the rigid grill structure is not definitively determined, whether it be the bony pair of robot legs that hang under his toy's beast mode or his, uh, crotch.
*Speaking of Dinobot's crotch, [[Mainframe Entertainment]] once had a little fun with Dinobot's model after hours. "[[:File:Dirkdinobot.jpg|Dirk Dinobot]]" may not be safe for work, but his grill structure here is anything but rigid! Fan James Hooks was responsible for originally posting the Dirk Dinobot image on [[alt.toys.transformers]], thanks to an unknown person from Mainframe Entertainment.
*On [[May 7]], [[2010]], he was unveiled as one of the first five nominees for the [[Transformers Hall of Fame]], the first ''Beast Wars'' character to earn the honor and the only character not to be from 1984 or 1985. A tongue-in-cheek campaign for Dinobot was started by [[David Willis]], with the gag being that he'd never beat the 1984/5 characters. To everyone's surprise, at [[BotCon 2010]]'s Hall of Fame ceremony, Dinobot was unveiled as the winner: he became both the first ''Beast Wars'' character and first fan-voted to be inducted, beating out even long time favorites [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]! As is the nature of online fan communities, this immediately spawned disbelief and outrage in some sections of the fandom, as well as a conspiracy theory about how ''Beast Wars'' fans had somehow ''"cheated"'' or ''"rigged the vote"''.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Dinobot''' (ダイノボット ''Dainobotto'')
*''Cantonese:'' '''Dillonburg''' (狄龍堡 ''Dik Lung Bou'')
*''Korean:'' '''Dinobot''' (다이노봇 ''Dainobos'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Kǒng Lóng''' (Taiwan, 恐龍, "Dinosaur"), '''Mó Lóng''' (Taiwan, 魔龍, "Demonic Dinosaur")
*''Russian:'' '''Zuborob''' (first ''Beast Wars'' dub, Зубороб), '''Dinobot''' (second ''Beast Wars'' dub, Динобот)

==References==
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==External links==
*[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/ee52db9e103fd5a8?hl=en& "Dinobot's Old Technology" by MG-Dinobot]
*[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?R=3D1EC1EB-19B9-F369-109E-19B934FCADD2:en_US Botcon 2010 tribute]

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Talk:Transmutate (BW)

2016-09-26T17:17:26Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* Alliance */

==Gender==
Transmutate doesn't HAVE a gender, I thought. Don't they ALWAYS refer to it as, well, "it"? (Plus this article totally needs to be put in the character format.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:17, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Meh. I dunno. I thought basically everybody thought of Transmutate as female. If that's not accurate, I certainly don't object to having that category removed. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:29, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, being voiced by Susan Blu certainly colored that. But I don't remember it ever having been referred to with a gendered pronoun in the actual episode itself... which I would think is PART of the point. It's such a freak it doesn't even fall under "he" or "she". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 05:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Didn't one of the Bobs say Transmutate was female? And ALL TF's are neither male nor female according to the Marvel comics. What's so freaky about asexuality? Silverbolt putting his boy-parts in Blackarachnia's spider-parts-- now '''that's''' freaky! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:42, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

: Did one of the Bobs say it in the actual episode? /:) Also, this is not the Marvel comics. This is Beast Wars, where there ''are'' males and females. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 06:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

::To what degree are we confined to 'said in the actual episode'? Female voice actor. Nothign in the episode conflicts with it, producer says it's so- doesn't this get an italicised comment at least? (But then, I never understood the screaming shit-fits some people get into when you say the Predacon ship was called the Darkside. It was named in official sources, jsut not the series. Make an italicised note that the name came later and move on. No one gets this upset abotu the name of the Ark, and we didnt' even have Terrorsaur for that!) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 07:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

''A minor point of argument among fans is exactly why the Maximals were so quick to stasis-lock Transmutate instead of transferring its spark to another body like Rhinox did with Optimus Primal following the latter's unintentional sacrifice.'' 
: With Primal they were able to transfer his Spark into a new body because they happened to have a new empty stasis pod land outside soon before. With Transmutate, they didn't transfer her Spark because they didn't have any spare protoforms lying around (unless they found some and I'm forgetting it)--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 03:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, is this really a point of argument among fans? Because, it shouldn't be. The only reason they were able to put Primal's spark in a new body is because that pod with the blank protoform happened to be on hand. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 04:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm inclined to agree. I vaguely recall people wondering why the Maxies seemed so eager to put her out of her misery instead of, say, stasis. But not that they should have given her a new body. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::But... they ''were'' going to put her into stasis. No one but Megatron ever suggested ''killing'' Transmutate. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 04:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
:::::Eh. I ''did'' say it was a "vague" recollection. :) --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 04:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::It's worth noting. I hear it all the time: Oh, the Maximals were going to kill Transmutate, they're so awful, why were they so evil to her. It's a common misperception. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 04:30, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

==Alliance==
Isn't Transmutate technically a Maximal? (Her faction was never subverted by the Predacons, which should make her Maximal by default).[[User:Darktruth|Darktruth]] 16:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Even though this was mentioned 5 years ago, I second that notion. "Her" pregramming, while severely damaged, was never tampered with by the Predacons. So....nominally "she" should still be a Maximal. --Lord of Torment 01:19, 15 March 2013 (EDT)

Although, couldn't there be the possibility that that programming and hardware responsible for "her" faction, could have been damaged? Sort of like Tigertron. --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 13:17, 26 September 2016 (EDT)

==Artwork==
So apparently the artist who drew the comic cover for Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 55 has posted [http://zeromayhem.deviantart.com/art/Transmutate-Beast-Wars-Uprising-447825433 said artwork of the cover onto their DeviantArt account]. Would this be alright to post onto the TF Wiki? It is official artwork for the comics, and i think it would be nice having a new, up to date, default character artwork for the profile. [[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] ([[User talk:Ixbran|talk]]) 06:36, 31 March 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Void

2016-09-23T17:30:21Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* I don't get it. */ new section

Much like the "Things that don't exist" category, I think this page should be left blank on principle. -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 14:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I was going to link "Unicron" to his article, but, on the other hand, the fact that this page is on the "Dead-end pages" list is really kind of appropriate.
[[User:JW|JW]] 13:34, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

This is now a fucking awesome page. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 01:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks. Once the idea occurred to me, it was like... how could the page be anything else? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 02:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

::...Nevermind. This works better. -[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 14:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Oh wow. This page is so informative. It has opened by eyes up to the world. --[[User:-Sledgehammer-|OMG SLEDGE]] 23:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I added more blank space... I think it's the longest page in the TF wikia now... and it's almost empty.

I nominate this for the featured article. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] ([[User talk:Takeshi357|talk]]) 16:50, 5 April 2015 (EDT)

==Hey Interrobang==
Why do you delete a little bit of negative space every two months? Are you stealing it for your own nefarious purposes? Don't lie. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 21:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
:I'm not sure how that happened. All I did was add a category. I did preview the page without the break tag to see what would happen, but I didn't delete the space. Honest, guv'. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::It seems to be some weirdass function of the software. All I did was change one letter, and it removed a space without me touching it. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 00:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::For every space removed from [[Void]], a character is added to [[Dead Universe]]. The Expansion is upon us!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:35, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

:::I told you not to lie, space-thief. Nevertheless, I see you've returned it, so things are set aright... for the moment. But believe me, I'll be keeping a close eye on conflated punctuation from now on. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Life enroaches onto the void!
::::(To answer your question, I made it so clicking on the image takes you to a sub-page, in case anyone ever gets a hankering to do an actual Void article.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Someone fix the image so it links to [[Void (disambiguation)]] as it should ==

In the google cache, the image links to [[Void (disambiguation)]]. I can't get it to do that. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 14:23, 27 March 2009 (EDT)
:Done. [[User:Betsumei|Betsumei]] 15:36, 29 March 2009 (EDT)

==Transparency==
How can we make the page go back to looking like a normal page? I get the idea, but I think the massive blue swath on the background ruins the gag. I've tried previewing it with no code except the image, and it still looks see-through. I have no idea where the code for this even ''is.'' - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:51, 28 March 2009 (EDT)
:Hello? Who made this happen? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:16, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
::Er- I did. Not fond of the effect? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:25, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Only because of the blue background. If we could still maintain the normal white background, it would be fine. But the joke is that it simulates the first page of [[The Void! (US)|The Void!]] (minus the narration-boxes), and having a giant blue swath in there is pretty darned un-Void-like. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 22:44, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Yeah, so the point is, HOW DO I CHANGE IT BACK? Even clicking on the earliest link in the History does nothing. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 17:13, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Since the blue background is a permanent part of the site's infrastructure, I'm not sure why going back in the history would fix the problem. It was a white background before because we had a site skin that was all white in the background. I think to fix this, we need to override the style sheet or whatever. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:47, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::I thought that going back in the history would make it not be transparent anymore. That'll all I want to do. I don't understand why even having a ''conversation'' about the idea feels like pulling teeth. Am I typing Esperanto again? - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 19:22, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::I'm saying I don't think it was ever ''opaque'', dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:28, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::Go to the history page, and click on the earliest link. Notice how the text runs right over the blue. Also notice how the title is grey, in the same way that the title and header-tabs are all grey currently. Derik ''did something that transcends history,'' and I want to undo it. I MUST undo it... for all our sakes. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 19:38, 17 July 2009 (EDT)

==I liked it better when it said "I Slumber" if you hovered your mouse over the image.==
Can we make it do that again?[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 22:56, 9 May 2009 (EDT)

== AAII info ==

So, uh, the Void is one of the zodiac. But I'm not sure how to add it without breaking the joke. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:18, 10 August 2011 (EDT)
:If I ruined the joke I'd feel very sad. Find a way!
:Hmmm.... maybe the disambiguation page? --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 16:59, 10 August 2011 (EDT)

== I don't get it. ==

Is this supposed to be some kind of joke? Does this mean anything. I really don't know what this page is about. Not gonna lie, it kinda creaped me out the first time I saw it.--[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 13:30, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Vector Prime

2016-09-23T17:26:35Z

Maximus Prime Toa of Earth: /* "death" */

Uh, dosn't this need Spoiler tags?

Don't let me stop you. Tho in truth, I don't think it gives away all that much. :)

Before I deleted the spoilers, it certainly damn did give away too freakin' much. >:/ --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 07:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed all that stuff. Had to check the history to find out what you were talking about. The current version of the article looks pretty much like the version I half-assedly put together - TTK

Wich picture of Vector Prime's death is most fitting?
http://www.tfans.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=38907&hl=spoiler
[[User:69.209.174.19|69.209.174.19]] 00:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

X-Bob, you said you were leaving. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:01, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

==Pictures==
Removed because three images to just show Vector Prime is far too much. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 12:22, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
:But that's a good pic. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 12:36, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
::Remove one of the two crappy ones! Don't remove the good pic! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:57, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
:::We can use pics to pad-out text (and to make it less tiresome to read). So basically Vector Prime needs alot more cartoon information, which, in theory, should be easy as that's his most well-known fictional appearance. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:20, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
::::But do we really need 3 'this is what Vector Prime looks like' pics? Surely 1 or 2 of them can be replaced with pics of Vector Prime actually... '''doing''' something? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Sure he's doing something! He's POSING! That's an important component of all japanese kids cartoons! --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 13:56, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::Please don't humor the Japanese. The plan is for all of America to stand here glaring at them until they get the hint, and you're ruining the effect.
:::::(I know he's posing, we have two other pics where he's posing!)
::::: ...removign the text does make this one looks much nicer. ...ditch the Fun Publications pic. ;) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::I prefer to keep the Fun Pub pic in the Fun Pub section. At least in my opinion it doesn't look 'cool' enough to serve as a bio pic. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:48, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::I don't particularly care what image you guys pick as the main one. Just make sure that the image actually represents ''something'', like his appearance in the cartoon or death or fighting Galvafdfsadwhatever, and isn't redundant with other images. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 17:17, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::We have 3 pics of him standing around already, but you're telling us not to choose any of them for the main pic- but instead use an action shot? That's crazy-talk! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::::Misphrased there. The main picture can be simply used to represent Vector Prime. The rest of the images in the article need to represent different things to satisfy fair use laws. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 11:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
::::::::::Let's just delete the FunPub pic and say X-Bob did it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
:::::::What about I photoshop the above pic so it appears he is fighting Captain Picard? Is that acceptable as not being redundant? :P --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:24, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

The "Real world" section under "Fiction" is almost the best thing ever. I just know one thing to make it better... --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 19:36, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

No mention of Rhisling? I'd add it myself only I'm not sure where it should be crowbarred in.

==Age==
I was on Unicron.com the other day, reading on Vector Prime's toy page, and they had some of his Q&A from "Ask Vector Prime". It says that when asked about his age, Vector Prime says that he was almost as old as Cybertron, which is nine billion years old. See [http://www.unicron.us/tf2005/toypix/vectorprime.htm here] for the specifics. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 18:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

== "death" ==

has anyone else noticed that he appears in every episode after he dies? [[User:ShinkisRule|ShinkisRule]] 17:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
* Technically, he's not dead, just confined to existing in the space between dimensions. He can still reach out through the map. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 00:54, 12 September 2009 (EDT)
* Dead or not, when he went, it was still sad as hell. --[[User:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth| Maximus Prime Toa of Earth ]] ([[User talk:Maximus Prime Toa of Earth|talk]]) 13:26, 23 September 2016 (EDT)

==Another category he belongs in==
*I believe that as he was 9 billion, Vector Prime most definitely belongs in the "Elderly Transformers" category. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 00:54, 12 September 2009 (EDT)

== ROTF Appearance ==
Vector Prime said in Ask Vector Prime, he appeared in ROTF, yes it was a joke lol but still...--[[User:Primestar3|Primestar3]] ([[User talk:Primestar3|talk]]) 23:24, 26 July 2015 (EDT)