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Scattershot (WFC)

2010-07-29T19:44:12Z

Mazenoise: I don't think we need the reference to the "accidentally-uploaded listing" anymore. The DLC is out, and his name is Scattershot

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:''Scattershot is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)| Prime]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:WFC_Scattorshot_bot.jpg|thumb|300px|I'm a scout class.]]

'''Scattershot''' is an Autobot who fought on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] during the early days of the Autobot/[[Decepticon]] war.

==Games==
===''Transformers: War for Cybertron'' (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)===

{{Note|Scattershot is a downloadable content character<ref name="WFC DLC listing">[http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/07/first-transformers-war-for-cybertron-dlc-contains-all-three-preorder-characters/ First Transformers: War For Cybertron DLC Contains All Three Preorder Characters, Kotaku.com, July 3 2010]</ref>, made available by downloading the ''Transformers: War for Cybertron Map and Character Pack''. He is playable in the multiplayer Escalation mode and his chassis can be used in multiplayer customization, but he is not playable in the ''War for Cybertron'' storyline campaign.}}

[[Image:WFC_Scattorshot_vehicle.jpg|thumb|left|250px|]]
{{storylink|Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|Transformers: War for Cybertron}}
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==Notes==
* Scattershot is a [[homage]] to the ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' character [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]] (specifically his [[Cybertron Defense Team|"Cybertron Defense" incarnation]]).

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Prime characters]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Talk:Ultra Magnus (disambiguation)

2010-07-29T18:08:01Z

Mazenoise:

What is the joke about: "Ultra Magnus should not be confused with... Ultra Magnus"? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:50, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

== Movie? ==

What about the Live-Action Magnus? If there is no page for it, why even have that?--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 13:05, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:I think that is a link to an article which should exist, but doesn't. That is, the character exists but he hasn't been written up yet. I'm not sure where he appeared, though (Possibly the card game? Or a video game?). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:27, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
::Apparently, he was mentioned in [[Transformers Comic issue 12|a letters page of the Titan movie comic]]. Which is about the minimum amount of existing any character can do. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 14:08, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

Mirage (G1)

2010-07-11T19:29:10Z

Mazenoise: /* Toys */

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:''Mirage is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Mirageg1.jpg|right|300px|thumb|"The ship was... full."]]

'''Mirage''' is what [[human]]s call "old money." Before the war, he was a member of affluent [[Cybertronian (disambiguation)|Cybertronian]] society, with his own large estate and high-priced [[Mirage's friends|friends]]. He enjoyed the finer things in life: vintage [[Energon (fuel)|energon]], swank evening events, and [[turbofox]] hunts on the grounds. But when the war started, he was forced to choose sides and found himself banded with a group of commoners he didn't really understand.

Some of the other Autobots don't trust Mirage. He feels the war, even after all these millions of years, is beneath him. War is not, after all, how civilized, erudite beings conduct themselves. He often questions the Autobots' violent means, and not-so-secretly hopes they and the [[Decepticon]]s can get along. Because of this, he has been labelled by a few others as a Decepticon sympathizer. Still, he sided with the Autobots for a reason, and he is there for the Autobots when they need him.

Although the details vary by continuity, Mirage has the ability to create illusions which typically either render him invisible or make him appear to be somewhere he isn't.

He sounds like [[wikipedia:Dean Martin|Dean Martin]].

:''Japanese name:'' '''Ligier''' or '''Rijie''' (リジェ ''Rije'')
:''Hungarian name:'' '''Délibáb''' ("Mirage")
:''Italian name:'' '''Mistero''' ("Mystery")
:''Portuguese name:'' '''Miragem''' ("Mirage")
:''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Hǎi-shr-shèn-lóu''' (海市蜃樓, "Mirage") / '''Hàun-yǐng''' (幻影, "Phantom")

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Image:Miragebluestreakfirst.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Mirage tells the story of how he got his name every five minutes.]]
Mirage was one of the Autobots on board the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] when it crashed, and was subsequently reactivated in 1984. At first, Mirage was reluctant to full-on attack his Decepticon opponents, instead trying to reason with them. However, after a battle with the relentless [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], Mirage learned that sometimes diplomacy is not an option. {{storylink|The Last Stand}}

[[Image:Mirageg1enemywithin.jpg|right|125px|thumb|Punk'd!]]
''During an accident on the Ark, [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] suffered an extreme neuro-shock, causing him to rebel and turn against his teammates. Mirage helped the Autobots hunt him down and tranquilize him. This same accident also amplified Mirage's ability to create illusions, which he later used to trick the Decepticons into believing that a duel between Brawn and [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ended with Brawn's death. The Decepticons felt totally stupid.'' {{storylink|The Enemy Within!}}

In the wake of a disastrous mission to rescue [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s captive head from the Decepticons, most of the Autobots were rendered inoperative. Mirage was one of a handful of Autobots who remained active, accompanying Optimus and various newer Autobots on several subsequent missions. {{storylink|Rock and Roll-Out!}} {{storylink|I, Robot-Master!}} {{storylink|Command Performances!}}

''Mirage lucked out during the Dinobot Hunt—he was assigned to B-Team, whose quarry, Snarl, was knocked out by the destruction of a human military base, leaving him inert and easy to capture.'' {{storylink|Dinobot Hunt!}}

Long after, he was blown to pieces by [[Octane]] during an Arctic battle arranged by [[Starscream (G1)| Starscream]]. He recovered in time to be destroyed again in [[New York City]] by Starscream himself (empowered by the [[Underbase]]). {{storylink|Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star}}

====Generation 2====
[[Image:Mirageg2die.jpg|left|120px|thumb|"Got to—" '''SPOOM!''']]
Disobeying [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s orders, [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] led a covert team (which included Mirage) onto the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronian Empire]] ship ''[[Twilight (G2)|Twilight]]'' to defeat [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] and his army of "evolved Decepticons". Grimlock's plan was an utter failure, ending in [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]'s death and the Autobots' capture. Mirage was destroyed by enemy fire during the following prison break. {{storylink|Devices and Desires! (Marvel)|Devices and Desires!}}

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====Classics====
{{note| The Classics comic takes place after the end of the original Marvel Comic, but in a new timeline that does not include the events of the Marvel UK-exclusive stories or Generation 2.}}
Having been revived (presumably by [[Nucleon]]), Mirage was the happiest of them all, until he saw just how badly his way of life was affected by warfare. Mirage found that ages of warfare had made him bitter. Eventually, he decided to join Optimus Prime in returning to Earth, and war with Megatron.<ref>Mirage Classics Profile, [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 13]]</ref>

His actions include evacuating [[Armored Robot Hunters|RUNTs]] and their pilots, holding [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] at gunpoint, and revealing that his illusion powers (in this continuity) now ''include'' invisibility. {{storylink|Crossing Over}}

He later secretly followed [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] to a meeting from his crew of the [[Graviton (Classics)|Graviton]]. Unfortunately, he tried to crash Starscream's meeting with [[Bug Bite (G1)|Bug Bite]]. [[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]]'s infra-red sensors, and [[Weirdwolf]]'s keen nose allowed the Decepticons to find him, and he was gift-wrapped for Megatron. When the Gravitron crew led by Grimlock and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] attacked the Decepticon base, Mirage was rescued by [[Strongarm (Classics)|Strongarm]], [[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]], [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]], and [[Elita One]]. {{storylink|Games of Deception}}

===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japanese)
[[Image:MTMTE2 Mirage talking to Spike.jpg|right|240px|thumb]]
Mirage was part of the bridge crew of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] when it crash-landed on Earth four million years ago. A volcanic eruption in 1984 awakened the Ark's inhabitants, including Mirage, who was reformatted by [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] to have a terrestrial alternate mode of a Formula-1 racer. His first mission came when the Autobots rolled out to stop the Decepticons attacking an oil rig. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 1}} After the battle, he got to show off his invisibility power to [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]]. Following another failed battle at [[Sherman Dam]], he suggested they simply leave Earth to the Decepticons and return to Cybertron, a suggestion soundly rejected by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 2}}

[[Image:MTMtE Part3 Mirage HALOjump.jpg|left|200px|thumb]]
At the [[Ruby Crystal Mines of Burma]], when Optimus was caught in an explosion, Mirage helped right him. He expressed hope that with the Decepticons perished in the explosion, they'd be able to return to Cybertron, but his optimism was quashed a few moments later when their foe emerged, functional and with more energy to fuel their [[Victory (ship)|new star cruiser]]. While guarding Ravage, Mirage gave Hound the idea to spring a trap on the Decepticons using a holographic rocket base. Unfortunately the Decepticons saw through the plan and raided the real rocket base, attaining the rest of the energy they needed. During the final Autobot operation to try and prevent the launch of the Decepticon cruiser, Mirage used his cloaking ability to sneak aboard. While the Decepticons were squabbling, he uncloaked and opened fire, blasting away at the ship's controls. He then bailed from the doomed cruiser, floating back to Earth's surface on a parasail as the Decepticons crashed into the ocean. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

After [[Chip Chase]] was kidnapped by the Decepticons who were after the antimatter formula the boy had memorised, Hound and Mirage utilised their respective powers to sneak into the antimatter laboratory. They were able to rescue Chip, but the Decepticons had managed to get the formula and use it to create Energon. Mirage subsequently helped defend Autobot Headquarters. {{storylink|Roll for It}} Mirage rolled out to protect Autobot Headerquarters while [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] worked to save Prime's life, after the Autobot leader was badly damaged in a Decepticon attack. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer}} He took part in the construction of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s... and then had to try to stop them when they ran wild. He, [[Bluestreak]] and [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] sealed the three Dinobots in a cave, but were mighty grateful when, after almost all of the Autobots were captured by the Decepticons, the Dinobots were released to come to the rescue. {{storylink|S.O.S. Dinobots}}

[[Image:CountdowntoExtinction Mirage firing missile.jpg|right|210px|thumb]]
When Megatron was using [[hypno-chip]]ped humans to load Energon onto their shuttle for transport to Cybertron, Mirage used his invisibility to sneak on board and order the humans to start unloading the Energon again. He was blasted in the back a short time later by [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. {{storylink|The Ultimate Doom, Part 3}} When the Autobots were caught in quicksand while pursuing the Decepticons, Mirage used his shoulder missile to shoot down [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (episode)|Countdown to Extinction}} Mirage turned out with the other Autobots to watch Optimus and Megatron engage in single combat as per Cybertronian law. To their horror, Optimus lost, but they later discovered that Megatron had cheated, so the results were nullified. {{storylink|Heavy Metal War}}

[[Image:CityOfSteel Mirage carrying alligatorcon.jpg|thumb|left|210px]]
Mirage rolled out to attack Megatron's [[Solar Needle]] and rescue [[Gears (G1)|Gears]], but didn't play much role in the battle. {{storylink|Changing Gears}} He was on Ratchet's team, entering the sewers of [[New York City]] in an attempt to rescue Optimus. After tangling with an [[Alligatorcon]], they found Prime... in pieces. The Alligatorcon had been built from Optimus's parts, and Mirage, Ratchet and Hound had to capture it so Ratchet could rebuild their leader. Once Optimus had been put back together, they proceeded to the surface and battled Decepticons, [[battle taxi]]s and Prime's own severed arm. {{storylink|City of Steel}}

[[Image:Traitor Mirage cerebro shell implant.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]
The spotlight shone on Mirage again when [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] suspected him of disloyalty. The discovery of a Decepticon installation in a sector Mirage had recently scouted caused Cliffjumper to leap the incorrect conclusion that Mirage had concealed the information and was a traitor to the Autobots. During a battle with the Decepticons at the site, Mirage was injured, but managed to rip a Decepticon [[Insignia|seal]] off [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]. Mirage risked the trust of his comrades by sneaking away to perform a plan of his own, framing the Decepticons for stealing [[Energon cube|Energon cubes]] from the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]]. Spotted carrying the cubes by Cliffjumper, Mirage's guilt seemed all but confirmed, and before he could reveal his innocence, he was captured and brainwashed by one of [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]]'s mind-controlling [[Cerebro-shell|cerebro-shells]]. Under Bombshell's control, Mirage led the Autobots into an ambush, but at the battle’s end, the assorted manipulations were revealed and Cliffjumper apologized to Mirage. {{storylink|Traitor}}

[[Image:AutobotRun Jazz Mirage vehicle modes.jpg|thumb|left|240px]]
Mirage took part in a charity race organised by the Autobots. While they raced and performed stunts, the Autobots were affected by Megatron's latest invention, the [[Transfixatron]], which locked them in their vehicle modes. They were herded by the Decepticons to a ghost town, where the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s had created a machine to destroy them. It was only through an intervention of Ratchet and Wheeljack's counter invention that they were saved. {{storylink|The Autobot Run}}

[[Image:EntertheNightbird invisible Mirage.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]
Mirage came with the other Autobots when they were hired by [[Doctor Fujiyama the Famous Scientist]] to protect [[Nightbird (G1)|his latest invention]] when it was being unveiled. When Decepticons attacked, Mirage became invisible and attacked Soundwave. Megatron offered to make Mirage disappear for good, but Optimus Prime saw to it that it wouldn't come true. After the Decepticons made off with Nightbird, Mirage and Ratchet insisted that [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] stay behind at Autobot base for repairs. As Brawn and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] were being repaired, Optimus detected an intruder. Mirage went to investigate, only to be beaten up by a Decepticon-reprogrammed Nightbird. Mirage pursued her with the other Autobots. When they caught up with her, Mirage became invisible in order to return Optimus Prime's laser rifle undetected, giving him the advantage. {{storylink|Enter the Nightbird}}

When Mirage and the other Autobots found they mysteriously had two Optimus Primes, the duo were subjected to a series of inconclusive tests. Before any further testing could be done, they had to roll out to a crevasse filled with [[korlonium crystal]]s to investigate strange readings. During the battle with the Decepticons that followed, the real Prime's identity was soon revealed. {{storylink|A Prime Problem}} Mirage was part of [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]'s team when they stumbled on the Decepticons' drilling operation. As [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] blasted him off a cliff, Mirage became invisible so the Decepticons would "never find [his] pieces". Of course, he survived and he and Sunstreaker used his grappling hook to take down Devastator. Back at Headquarters, a plan was hatched to plant [[dominator disc]]s on the Constructicons. Mirage took part, planting two of the discs at once, and Devastator was soon under Autobot control. Alas, it didn't last long — while they were trying to stop the Decepticons drilling to the Earth's core, Megatron retook control of the combiner. {{storylink|The Core}}

Mirage was at Headquarters when [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] reported the discovery of [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]]. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} Through a cunning plan on Megatron's part, the Autobots were found guilty of stealing energy and forced to leave Earth in a spaceship supplied by [[Shawn Berger]]. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1}} They soon discovered that the spacecraft was locked on course to the [[Sun]]. Through the heroic efforts of Chip Chase and bungling of [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], as well as the use of [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] and [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]'s force fields, the Autobots returned to Earth, where the Decepticons had already revealed their true nature. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}}

[[Image:DesertionDinobots1 Mirage steals fusion cannon.jpg|thumb|left|240px]]
During an attempt by the Decepticons to steal the plans to the [[Ultra Plane]], Mirage used his invisibility to steal Megatron's [[fusion cannon]] right off the Decepticon leader's arm. A brief tug-of-war ensued over the weapon, which Mirage lost, but Megatron retreated in the end anyhow. Later, as the Dinobots were being repaired after another battle, Mirage reminisced about how great Cybertron was. When [[Cybertonium]] depletion started affecting all of the Transformers, Mirage's invisibility power went on the fritz — instead of making him invisible, it merely altered his color scheme slightly. Unfortunately he didn't find this out until after he tried to sneak up on [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and was promptly blasted into a wall. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}} The Autobots' condition worsened, until they were unable to move. They remained this way until the Dinobots, Spike and [[Carly]] managed to retrieve more Cybertonium from Cybertron. {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2}}

[[Image:GoldenLagoon Mirage reports to Autobots.jpg|thumb|right|220px]]
Mirage rolled out for [[Haley Observatory]] when Megatron stole the [[Voltronic Galaxer]], but went missing somewhere along the way, and didn't arrive with the rest of the group. {{storylink|Blaster Blues}} He was part of an Autobot team who faced [[electrum]]-plated Decepticons with little success. He had to retreat back to [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]'s position for reinforcements. When even Omega fell before the Decepticons, Mirage returned to Headquarters to break the news, and [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I]] soon worked out how the Decepticons had become invincible. Soon the Autobots had found the electrum pool and, coating themselves, were able to defeat the Decepticons. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon}} After a number of Autobots were abducted by big game hunter [[Lord Chumley]], Mirage was present at Headquarters when Cosmos finally located the missing Autobots. {{storylink|Prime Target}} He also helped coat the [[Statue of Liberty]] with [[corrostop]], Perceptor's latest invention. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}

Mirage was among the team of five Autobots who disguised themselves as the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]], with Mirage's alternate mode making him the perfect choice to masquerade as [[Drag Strip]]. Penetrating the Decepticon camp, the Autobots ran into trouble when the real Stunticons arrived, trying to prove their identities by forming [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]. With a combination of [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]'s magnetic powers and Mirage’s illusion-creating ability, the Autobots were able to appear as Menasor too. Though the deception was soon revealed, they were still able to thwart the Decepticons’ plans. {{storylink|Masquerade}}

{{note|An unused scene from the storyboard for [[The Transformers: The Movie]] showed Mirage wounded (possibly killed) by Megatron after getting back at Bombshell for [[Traitor|jeopardizing his career]]. Given the high body count, his death is still likely.}}

====Japanese cartoon continuity====

=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' comic=====

Mirage was among the Autobots stationed at [[Ark (G1)|Autobot headquarters]] in [[Arizona]] when [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] and the Decepticons attacked. Though the Autobots were ultimately victorious, the entire attack was actually just a distraction so that [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] could go perform ''evil'' somewhere in Japan. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 2}}

Mirage later appeared at the Autobots' newly constructed Japanese base, welcoming the small [[human]] boy, [[Kenji]]. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 4}}

=====''Full Throttle Scramble Power!''=====
{{storylink|Full Throttle Scramble Power!}}

=====''Robot Masters'' pack-in comics=====

=====''Robot Masters'' online comics=====
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=====''Story of Binaltech''=====
Mirage volunteered for an experimental new Binaltech upgrade that boosted the [[power chip rectifier]] in his revamped body to the Nth degree, making him permanently invisible thanks to his electro-disruptor. This proved to be key in a special mission conceived of by [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]. Having uncovered several secrets from the files of the time-traveling [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], the Autobots learned of a mysterious [[Large switch|switch]] hidden away on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] which, when pulled, would instantaneously immobilize all Transformers throughout the universe. Having lost Cybertron to [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s tyrannical rule and facing considerable odds in the Sol System as well, Prime decided it was necessary to activate the switch in order to end the war.

With [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] and several [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] [[GT System|GTs]] awaiting his signal as back-up, Mirage invisibly infiltrated Decepticon-controlled Cybertron and made his way to the switch. After throwing the switch, though, Mirage was surprised to find that he was still mobile. It seemed the Binaltech warriors (both Autobot and Decepticon) were significantly different enough from regular Transformers to be unaffected by the immobilization wave. With the Autobots now vastly outnumbering the Decepticons still in operation, the tide of the war had irreparably shifted. {{storylink|Kill Switch}}

=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
[[Image:JHeadmasters01VariousGuys.jpg|thumb|200px|Combined screenshot used to avoid having to put up two tiny ones. Ignore the bottom!]]
Some time before the Transformers' war left Cybertron, Mirage engaged the Decepticons in battle with his comrades. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}}

{{note|For whatever reason, this pre-title screen Cybertronian skirmish was left out of both the United Kingdom and Australian DVD releases of the ''Headmasters'' series.}}

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===Dreamwave comics continuity===
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Despite his misgiving about the war effort, Mirage's tenure with the Autobot cause dates back to the time of [[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]]. When Shockwave staged a disastrous offensive against [[Iacon]], Mirage was there defending the [[Decagon]] alongside Prowl and the other Autobot soldiers. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5}} During the Dark Ages, he continued serving under Prowl as part of the main Autobot faction at [[Virtue's Forum]], in the remains of Iacon. Alongside Jazz and [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]], he tried defending their prisoner, [[Blitzwing (G1)|Experiment D-43]], against the intruder known as [[The Fallen]], but failed miserably in the process. {{storylink|War Within: The Dark Ages}}

Four million years ago, Mirage crash-landed on the planet Earth aboard the shuttle known as the Ark, with more than two dozen of his fellow Autobots and Decepticons. They remained inactive in stasis lock at the base of a volcano until 1984, when volcanic activity shook them back on-line. The war began again, but without reinforcements or connection to Cybertron, Megatron and his Decepticons were eventually defeated and taken prisoner by the Autobots. Mirage and the rest of the Transformers were prepared to fly back to Cybertron in a new spacecraft, the ''[[Ark II]]'', when it exploded on its maiden voyage, leaving them all believed dead.

Not so. Most of the Transformers had been salvaged by a mercenary named [[Lazarus]], who spent the next few years repairing and reprogramming the Cybertronians to use as weapons of mass destruction at his command. Optimus Prime was reactivated by the United States military to oppose Lazarus, and he in turn used the power of the Matrix to revive several other Autobots who had escaped Lazarus' salvage crews, including Mirage. After rescuing some of their number from the human mercenaries, Mirage and the Autobots had to race against time putting their friends back together after the Decepticons escaped to wreak havoc. What's worse, a mechanizing virus had been released by Megatron, turning organic life into inanimate mechanical matter. Mirage exhausted a good percentage of his energon reserves fighting back the tide of the virus, but the Autobots were eventually successful. {{storylink|Prime Directive}}

''Mirage was remarkably unhelpful during the war with the [[Keeper (species)|Keepers]]. After Optimus Prime was forced to give the Matrix over to Megatron as a debt of honor, Mirage sniped about the decision worse than any of the Autobots. His criticisms only got louder after a news report from [[Washington, D.C.]] made it clear that Megatron had found one of his warriors, the already mighty [[Omega Sentinel (G1)|Omega Sentinel]], who could actually wield the power of the Matrix directly. Now that Prime had actually strengthened their enemies as well as weakening the Autobots, Mirage just wouldn't shut up about it. The final straw was when [[Franklin Townsend]], a crazed augment working for the Keepers, idly strolled into the Ark, took over control of [[Bluestreak]]'s mind, and made his getaway. Mirage was ready to brazenly disobey Prime's orders and charge right after Bluestreak, until Optimus physically slammed him into a wall and forced him to obey his commanding officer. ''

''When you're being so much of a dick that the legendary patience of Optimus Prime runs out, it's time to rein it in, Mirage. {{storylink|Fusion (novel)|Fusion}}''

When [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] came to Earth and announced that the Autobot/Decepticon wars were over and that the two factions had been united, Mirage was one of the first to fall in with the new regime. The rest of the Autobots were wary of this development, and so a few (especially [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]) considered Mirage a traitor. {{storylink|Brothers' Burden}} Mirage quickly realigned himself with the Autobot cause when Shockwave's true plan was revealed, and Cliffjumper seemed to forgive him, as Mirage had saved Cliffjumper from [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] by sneaking up on him invisibly. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}

Unfortunately for Mirage, the Autobots' acting commander Prowl soon came to the conclusion that they needed to return to Earth and establish a more significant beach-head there for the future. Mirage tried to argue against the idea, as he was more than thrilled to finally be back home on Cybertron, but then [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] cut in and reminded Mirage that Shockwave's united government had sold off his riches and property while he was gone. Ooooh—burn. {{storylink|Atonement}} The Autobots readied themselves for the return mission on a new shuttle, and began construction of Autobot City upon their arrival on Earth. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers'' comics===
[[Image:GIJoevsTF4_Mirage_Ferret.jpg|thumb|left|250px|]]
[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] found Mirage's holo-projector aboard the ''Ark'', and used it to make a better holographic driver for himself than [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] could. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 2}}

Meanwhile, Mirage was among the dormant Transformers discovered by [[Cobra]], reprogrammed for nefarious purposes, and given new alternate modes (Mirage now transformed into a Cobra [[Ferret]]). Upon being freed from Cobra's control by Wheeljack, Mirage's group located Optimus Prime and helped fight back against the newly freed Decepticons. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 4}} He later stood watch as the damaged Prime was formulating a plan to defeat Megatron. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers issue 5}}

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===Dreamwave ''Transformers/G.I. Joe'' comics===
Mirage was apparently among the Autobots awakened on the [[Fera Islands]] in 1939, as Optimus Prime mentioned that he had been killed in the battle against [[Cobra]]. {{storylink|The Iron Fist}}

===IDW comics continuity===
Mirage was a suspect in the assassination attempts on [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], as he was one of only four Autobots present on the [[Autobot Orbital Command Hub|Hub]] during both attacks. He and two of the other Autobots were cleared when it was discovered that a mind-controlled [[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] was the true culprit. {{storylink|Spotlight: Blaster}}

A year later, he delivered information to the Autobots that there was a power-struggle among the Decepticons, information that turned out to be false and drew Optimus and an Autobot team (including the former ''[[Ark-19]]'' crew) into a hideous ambush that left them trapped on Cybertron. Before dumping them on Cybertron, Megatron revealed that there had been a willing traitor collaborator involved in his trap, and Mirage was the prime suspect {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}} with everyone but [[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] believing he'd betrayed them to the Decepticons. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 4}}

[[Image:AHM7_Ironhide_assaults_Mirage.jpg|thumb|left|200px|[[All Hail Megatron issue 4|Ironhide. Punches. ''Everyone.'']]]]
It's not all bad, though; he got to use his invisibility trick to sneak up on [[Kup (G1)|Kup]]'s crew when Jazz was trying to prove his command skills. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 5}} Not long after, a raging [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] dragged the "traitor" into a corner and blamed him for the trap, which had nearly killed Optimus Prime. Mirage could only protest weakly as Ironhide beat him half to death and ripped off his Autobot badge. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7}}

It was eventually revealed that [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] had been the real traitor, and Ironhide tried to apologize to Mirage. Mirage wouldn't accept his apology, however, leaving his badge off out of spite and warning Ironhide against ever talking to him again. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 9}} However, despite his harsh words, Mirage came to Ironhide's rescue during a [[Insecticon swarm|swarm]] attack, urging his comrade to save himself. Ironhide refused, and instead proved that he trusted Mirage again by staying behind to help him fight the monstrosities. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10}} After the Autobots were saved by [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], they returned to Earth and fought against the Decepticons in [[New York City]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11}}

Three years later, the Autobots were still squatting on Earth at Optimus Prime's insistence, keeping the humans "safe" from the Decepticons while being hunted by those very same humans. Mirage was present when [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] finally went stir-crazy and demanded some action. That "action" led to Ironhide's death and Prime surrendering himself to the human robot-hunters, [[Skywatch]]. {{storylink|...For All Mankind}} Along with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], and several others, Mirage joined Hot Rod in breaking off from what remained of the Autobot forces to leave the planet of mud and water behind. At first, they tried convincing Omega Supreme to leave with them, but Hot Rod's speeches failed to overcome Omega's loyalty to Optimus Prime. Instead, they found unlikely allies in a pack of roving Decepticons led by [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]]. {{storylink|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}} With the additional manpower, they began construction of a new space cruiser to leave Earth forever, despite the unease the new allies had for one another. {{storylink|A Rude Awakening}} Mirage busied himself checking a datapad for the new flight control systems. {{storylink|Seasons in Flight}}

Unsurprisingly, the Decepticons eventually betrayed Hot Rod's team and attempted to take the space cruiser for themselves. Mirage and the others fought against their new creation, [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], and eventually brought him down. Mirage was one of several Autobots who were injured in the battle, and was repaired by Skywatch technicians. {{storylink|Earthworks}}

{{note|The events of ''Spotlight: Mirage'' possibly take place in an alternate/unknown continuity.}}
[[Image:SpotlightMirage trappedHound.jpg|right|200px|thumb|This didn't actually happen. Or did it? No, it didn't.]]
Mirage was haunted repeatedly by dreams of being a Decepticon. Or actually ''is'' a Decepticon from another universe who, after helping kill the last Autobots, got blown back through time and space to the main universe. Or via [[Zodiac]] energy has gained flashbacks of an alternate Decepticon Mirage. God knows what's going on there. {{storylink|Spotlight: Mirage}}
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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' pack-in comic===

{{storylink|Mirage's Rebirth}}

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===''Henkei! Henkei!'' Bun Bun manga===

{{storylink|Enter! The Transformers}} {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Appears!}} {{storylink|Kingdom of Giants}} {{storylink|The Enemy from the Arctic}} {{storylink|Wataru's Power}}

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==Toys==
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===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1Mirage toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I don't need to be street-legal; I'm rich.]]
*'''Mirage''' (Autobot Car, 1984/1986/1991)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''07'''
**''Accessories:'' "Rocket-Dart Hunting Rifle", missile launcher, 3 missiles

: Mirage was part of the original 1984 Autobot car assortment. His mold was originally used for a ''[[Diaclone]]'' F-1 [[wikipedia:Ligier JS-11|Ligier JS-11]] racer. The toy was specifically designed to work with the launcher mechanism contained in the Optimus Prime / Battle Convoy trailer. This toy is easily broken at the waist pivot. The labels on the toy are references to several real-world companies. The largest name, Citanes, is a deliberate corruption of Gitanes, a French cigarette company. (Quite unusual for a child's toy, but not the only [[Marlboor Wheeljack|cigarette reference in ''Diaclone'']].) The toy included Gitanes' logo of a dancing gypsy woman on what ends up as Mirage's belt in robot form. "Ligier" is the name of the company that manufactured the JS-11 chassis and fielded the team, traditionally wearing 25 and 26 on the F1 grid, while "elf" is a reference to a French oil company that has since merged with TotalFina to become TotalFinaElf.

: In 1986, he was made available as a mail-away item (as he was no longer shipping to retail shelves) in multiple offers, including a [[Digital Doom on the Highway to Destruction]] flier packed with most boxed ''Transformers'' toys. He cost $8 and two [[robot points]]. In Japan Mirage was also included in the 1986 ''Goodbye Convoy'' [[Giftset|gift set]]. This was the final release of the mold, making Mirage the only one of the original Autobots not to have been reissued in some form.

: Hasbro and/or Takara have announced that the mold for Mirage is [[Mold#Issues with Reissues|either lost or damaged]], so a reissue is unlikely. This presumably excludes the molds obtained by [[Knockoff|certain Chinese companies]] to produce several Mirage "perfect" [[Bootleg|bootlegs]] in a variety of flavors including original, clear, smoke, and red, based on the ultra-rare version from the [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Diaclone Powered Convoy]] giftset.

===Generation 2===
* '''Mirage''' (Go-Bot, 1995)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

: Mirage was released in 1995 as a black and yellow recolor of the [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bot]] [[Double Clutch (G2)|Double Clutch]], transforming into a 1:64-scale Lola T94 Indy car with through-axle construction, making him compatible with racing sets from the "Hot Wheels" and "Matchbox" toylines.

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Mirage (RID)|Mirage]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/1995/Autobot/Mirage/mirage.htm More information on Go-Bots Mirage at TFU.info]

{{note|Mirage was also planned to be released in ''Generation 2'' as a flipchanger, but the line was canceled to make way for ''[[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]]''. The unreleased mold was first used in ''[[Machine Wars]]'' (see below).}}

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===Machine Wars===
[[Image:Mwmirage.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Gah! I'm teal! Somebody recolor me, please!]]
* '''Mirage''' (Basic, 1997)
**''Accessories:'' 2-part rifle

: Mirage's form in ''[[Machine Wars]]'' transforms into a blue and white Indycar. Like the other Machine Wars basics, the toy is a flipchanger (having a one-step, spring-loaded transformation), and his weapons are hidden in his alt mode. Unlike most of the ''Machine Wars'' toys, the head looks very similar to his Generation 1 form. This is because the mold was originally designed as Mirage for ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''.

: This mold was also used to make ''Machine Wars'' [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] and ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Skid-Z (RID)|Skid-Z]].

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===Robot Masters===
[[Image:RMRijie toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Phew. Thanks.]]
* '''Rijie''' (Basic, 2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-03'''
**''Accessories:'' 2-part "Molecular Bonding Gun", "JS Laser Gun"

: ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' "Rijie" used the ''Machine Wars'' Mirage mold, but in a much more [[Generation 1 (toyline)|Generation 1]]-based coloration and deco. He also came with an extra chrome-silver "JS Laser Gun" (like the other bonus weapons of ''Robot Masters'', it is suspected to be a mold originally developed yet ultimately unused by the cut-short ''[[Microman]] LED Powers'' line).

: Because of legal reasons, "Ligier" could not be used for the name of the ''Robot Masters'' toy, so "Rijie", which has the same pronunciation in Japan, was used instead. Curiously, the toy's instructions still identify it as "Ligier".

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===Alternators===
[[Image:AlternatorsMirage toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|This toy is clearly black, red, and silver. You're just deluding yourself.]]
* '''Mirage''' (Alternator, 2006)
**''Alternator ID number:'' '''22'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/tonfa weapons

: ''[[Alternators]]'' Mirage transforms into a finely detailed 1:24 scale replica of a Ford GT, featuring opening doors, engine bay and trunk, with a realistic interior. As with most Alternators, his car body is mostly unpainted, but the metallic-flake deep blue plastic makes this hard to see.

: Featuring an innovative, different robot mode, Mirage is not a straight re-interpretation of the original Mirage's robot mode, due to the completely different types of vehicles. But coincidentally the Ford GT's hood features a shape that echoes a F1-type racing car's nose and front spoiler. His engine's supercharger forms two separate tonfa weapons that can also be interpreted as guns.

: Mirage was retooled into [[Hot Rod (G1)/toys|Hot Rodimus]] for the ''[[Kiss Players (toyline)|Kiss Players]]'' line, which was further redecoed into ''Alternators'' Rodimus. Later in 2007, he was redecoed in clear plastic colours to represent his 'invisibility mode' as an [[e-Hobby]] exclusive in the ''[[Binaltech]]'' line.

===Universe===
*'''Mirage''' (Spy Changer, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Gun

: For ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'', Mirage is identical to the last Kay-Bee [[exclusive]] redeco of ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Robots In Disguise]]'' [[Mirage (RID)|Mirage]], transforming into a translucent green Lola Indy car. He was available only on an individual card from discount chains like The Dollar Store.
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===Classics===
[[Image:Classics Mirage toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Applied to [[Revoltech]] club; rejected.]]
*'''Mirage''' (Classics Deluxe, 2006)
**''Accessories:'' Gun/front spoiler
:''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Mirage was released in November 2006 in wave 2, along with the [[shortpacked]] [[Grimlock (G1)/toys|Grimlock]]. He transforms into a closed-canopy Formula racer concept car. Mirage's paint details contain a few ''Transformers'' in-jokes in the form of sponsor logos such as "[[Sparkplug Witwicky|Witwicky Sparkplugs]]" and "[[Lithone (planet)|Lithonian]] Drivetrain." Additionally, his racing number is still 26, as it was on the original toy. Other logos, which include "Plasma Injection Energy" and "F.P. Racing," refer to "pie" and the initials of [[Joe Kyde|the deco artist]]'s super-secret non-gay friendship cult, respectively.

:The front detaches to become a handheld electro-disruptor weapon which is said to be able to create illusions and allow him to appear invisible. (This is a reconciliation of Mirage's illusion-creation ability from his original tech spec profile and his invisibility power from the animated series.) He is ''extremely'' poseable.

: This mold was also used to make [[Fracture]] and ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' [[Drag Strip]].

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[[Image:BotCon2007freeMirage.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I leave your toilets fresh and blue everytime you flush!]]
*'''Hologram Mirage''' (BotCon, 2007)
**''Accessories:'' Gun/front spoiler

:A redeco of Classics Mirage in translucent and opaque blue, Mirage was available only as a "freebie" gift to attendees at BotCon 2007.

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===Binaltech===
* '''Rijie''' (e-Hobby exclusive, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BT-18'''
**''Accessories:'' Engine/tonfa weapons

:Rijie is a redeco of ''Alternators'' Mirage using mostly transparent plastic. The toy was exclusively available from [[e-Hobby]] in September 2007.

:Even though Takara had briefly contemplated releasing a [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rodimus]] (Hot Rod) retool of Alternators Mirage as the next ''Binaltech'' toy after [[Ginrai]] (both toys would ultimately come out as part of the ''[[Kiss Players (toyline)|Kiss Players]]'' line instead), they apparently never created any [[die-cast]] molds for the Ford GT sculpt. To justify the absence of diecast parts from a ''Binaltech'' toy, Takara decided to use clear plastic parts to represent an "invisible" mode, officially called an "Electro-Disrupter" {{sic}} mode on the packaging.

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===Henkei! Henkei!===
[[Image:Henkei Mirage toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Sculpted in 2006. Decoed in the late 70s.]]
*'''Ligier''' (Deluxe, 2008)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-04'''
**''Accessories:'' Gun/front spoiler

: ''[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]] Transformers'' Ligier is a redeco of ''Classics'' Mirage. In an effort to make him appear more accurate to Mirage's cartoon appearances, Ligier lacks most of the sponsorship tampographs that appeared on ''Classics'' Mirage. As with all ''Henkei'' toys, he lacks the heat-sensitive rubsign seen on the ''Classics'' version, but features [[Vacuum metallizing|vacuum-metallized]] parts: his rear spoiler and his front spoiler.

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[[Image:HenkeiElectroDisruptorLigier.jpg|thumb|200px|Clear, black, '''and''' chrome? It's like he's a living embodiment of Takara itself!]]
*'''Electro Disruptor Ligier''' (Deluxe, 2009)

: Electro Disruptor Ligier is a translucent plastic version of ''Henkei'' Ligier offered as a mail-away exclusive to those who have bought the book [[Transformers Generations 2009|Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 1]].

: This toy was repurposed as "[[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]]" [[Mirage (SG)|Mirage]].

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==Merchandise==
===Choro-Q===
*'''Ligier''' (2000)

:''[[Choro-Q]]'' Ligier is a mostly translucent [[redeco]] of the Honda Jordan F1 toy from Takara's ''Choro-Q'' toyline of non-transforming [[super-deformed]] vehicles. He was an [[exclusive]] at [[BotCon]] Japan 2000, and features a [[pull-back motor]] and a rear license plate that reads "BotCon Japan 2000".

:Along with ''Choro-Q'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/merchandise|Convoy]] and [[Megatron (G1)/toys|Megatron]], Ligier was given out randomly to convention attendees. Each toy was limited to 1000 pieces.

===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:RH Mirage vs Starscream.jpg|right|200px|thumb|I'm too rich to be cute.]]
* '''Mirage Vs Starscream''' (2007)

:Packaged with [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], Mirage is a two-inch-high robot sculpted in super deformed style with articulation at the head and shoulders. The toy has a sculpted missile launcher, like the original character, but oddly it is resting on the figure's back instead of the shoulder. This mold was later redecod into ''Hologram'' Mirage.

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[[Image:Hologram Robot Hero Mirage.jpg|right|150px|thumb|What he said.]]
* '''Decepticon Sneak Attack''' (2007)

:Hologram Mirage is a recolor of the two-pack Mirage cast in transparent blue with slightly different paint details. Most notably, the Autobot symbols on his arms have been replaced with part of the word "Citanes", to evoke the original toy. Mirage was packed with ''Metallic Finish'' Optimus Prime, ''Metallic Finish'' Megatron, Cliffjumper, and Skywarp. This pack was sold exclusively in Walmart, and Walmart.com.

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==Trivia==
*Mirage is absent from the fictional events of 2005 and 2006 without explanation; a storyboarded scene from ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' featuring Mirage was cut from the finished film. Amidst the transformation of [[Autobot City]], Mirage was to ambush the Insecticon [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] and then be fired upon by Megatron. Whether or not this would have killed Mirage is not made clear, but given the film's casual body count, it seems highly probable.
*Mirage has been a traitor/suspected traitor in nearly every continuity he's popped up in. You just can't trust those coastal elite.

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.toybin.org/search.php?q=1984+Autobot+Mirage ToyBin Mirage Toy Gallery]
* [http://www.tfu.info/1984/Autobot/Mirage/mirage.htm Mirage at TFU.info]
* [http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Mirage Mirage's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Talk:Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-06-30T08:38:09Z

Mazenoise: /* Can we lock these WFC articles down? */

== G1 Characters ==

Why are we linking to the G1 characters? I thought this was supposed to be something new. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 04:10, 11 December 2009 (EST)

:There's really no way of knowing for sure until we have more information about the storyline and characters. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 14:20, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::I really, really doubt they won't be Primax characters, new continuity or not. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:50, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::Agree that's that most likely the case. But I do sort of wonder if maybe this game is going to end up being some sort of prequel-y tie-in to the new cartoon/franchise that's coming. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 18:15, 11 December 2009 (EST)

== It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I mean, seriously different. Should we ask Hasbro?
:Well, not sure about asking Hasbro, we'll know soon enough one way or the other. But IMO, bad information is worse than no information. Assuming that these guys are G1 is just that - an assumption. We should tread lightly. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 18:29, 11 December 2009 (EST)
::They use the G1 logo, Cybertron's from [[Alpha Centauri]], and the roster includes only G1 dudes. I'd say "assumption" isn't really strong enough of a word. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:52, 11 December 2009 (EST)
:::I think we should wait for a confirmation that it's a G1 universe before making assumptions. The roster so far only includes G1 dudes. If we made that assumption, the movieverse would be part of G1 (early on only G1 based characters were announced. It could simply be like animated and it references things heavily. [[User:Eire]] 16.03 Dec 15 09 (OUTC)
:::The TFW2005 interview states it's "not connected to any particular generation" and that this will be the foundation for newer sub-franchises. That does indicate this isn't G1 but yet another continuity. [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 16:31, 23 December 2009 (GMT)
::::It would certainly seem to. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 23 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Alrighty. Hopefully at some point we'll have a good parenthetical for this new continuity ... family. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:46, 23 December 2009 (EST)
::::::How about "WFC"? [[User:ThiAthEhn]]
:::::::I agree. It has been stated in interviews that this is a new continuity and the character designs seem to be taking influence from a number of previous incarnations; mostly War Within, Transformers Animated and the live-action movies. It would be difficult to make the case that these are meant to be direct variations on the G1 characters. I second the idea of using "WFC" to classify them. [[User: Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 10:17, 19 January 2010 (GMT)
:::::: This IS a diffrent continuity- IGN Preview "Freed from the constraints of a movie license, the new Transformers game lives within its own universe." The TWF2005 preview and interview, multiple times in Game Informer's articles and alot in the Podcast on the same site. It's just heavily inspired by G1. I didn't want to change anything because I don't want to start an edit war over this. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 17:23, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::: Something can still be a new universe while being part of an existing [[continuity family]]. [[Henkei! Henkei!]] was a new universe that was still G1, as was [[Classics (2006)|Classics]] and the IDW stuff. What's important to the wiki is whether this will be a new continuity family, not just strictly a new universe. New universes happen all the time. New continuity families are much more rare. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:37, 19 January 2010 (EST)
:::::::: The thing is, it is (and always has been) a bit of a subjective value judgement alot of the time. How much similarity to G1 do we need to make something definately G1? Or does it work the other way? How big a New Element (minicons, cyberkeys,) do we need to make it difinitively it's own ConFam? Authorial intent definately has to be part of it too. Anything that specifically calls itself G1 is obvious, and anything that seems to be trying to pick up the original G1 characters/situations themselves even if it's in new forms or directions, alla IDW (although even that can be tricky to judge, agaiin HOW MUCH change makes a break?)... When we have as little info as we do right now on WfC it's almost impossible to judge what it will become. Do we have an editorial policy (and if not should we?) saying "Something new that seems G1-ish IS, until we see differences enough to prove it's not," or vice-versa "anything new is to be considered it's own continuity until we've seen enough to feel if it's G1-continuity family?" A set plan either way might make these situations a bit less random in the future. Maybe?--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:48, 19 January 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::lostcount: I would be ''highly'' surprised if WFC turns out to represent a whole new continuity family. We've already accepted too many retellings and revisions of G1 as being part of G1 for this one to fairly be split out, unless it has something that is an inescapable telltale mark of a separate confam, i.e. they're fighting for the Movie Allspark. "Its prehistory is very slightly different" will not be good enough, as is shown by the comfortable confam coexistence of FFOD, War Within, and Stormbringer. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:01, 21 January 2010 (EST)
:[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=66275 And the Club Magazine's leading questions] imply that this is indeed G1. Maybe even a previous G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:04, 25 January 2010 (EST)
By what you just showed, it'll be a part of the G1 Continuity family (I still question that its anything more than "influenced by it" I mean what constitutes a G1 Confam..yes IDW and Dreamwave are under it, but is the same true for an animated series? I mean honestly, If that were true, then Transformers Animated would be a part of the G1 Confam, and its not.) but shouldn't it have its own section near the bottom at some point, (for game, toys, series, etc.) sense apparently (and this is news to me) your link seems to state its based on its own upcoming series.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
EDIT: Sorry to be posting an additional edit: but I have a distinct feeling, and am going to risk being wrong to call it now: An upcoming comic-tie in to it that basically further stretches whether it should be its own Confam or not.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

To me, this seems every bit as G1 as War Within - Yeah it branches out into it's own story but it's hard to deny that this isn't just as G1 as DW or IDW comics given the use of characters and story telling style. {{unsigned|220.233.21.27}} 08:55, 28 June 2010

== The New trailer ==

should we make a summary of the trailer?--[[User:Defect|Defect]] 14:25, 12 January 2010 (EST)
: The link to the trailer is probably enough. A play-by-play would be a bit excessive. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:27, 12 January 2010 (EST)
:: Isn't the point of our wiki to be excessive? --[[User:ThiAthEhn]]
preety much.

== Logos ==

I'm guessing the answer is no, but have the developers released any images of the characters on a white background that we can use to make some logos for the Main Page? I know we're not sure who the characters ''are'' yet, but we can link them to the WFC page for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:34, 13 January 2010 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:13, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::Of course, the current logo doesn't look too bad on the main page.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:14, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::I think he means the center TFwiki one with the rotating characters. If we want to cut people out of screencaps with photoshop, we could probably add some WfC ones to the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:21, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::I cropped a WfC out of his concept art and inserted him into the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:59, 13 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Awesome! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:08, 13 January 2010 (EST)
::::::And a Megatron. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:10, 13 January 2010 (EST)

== Starscream? ==

Who says that '''black and grey''' seeker in the "Megatron and Starscream prepare for the ground assault" picture is Starscream? It's much more likely it's Skywarp.-[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 01:00, 26 January 2010 (EST)
: He has blue and red, though. It's just overwhelmed by the lighting. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:30, 24 January 2010 (EST)
::Plus, aside from the obvious color shadings (if you look), who are usually considered the three most popular Decepticons? Megatron, Soundwave and Starscream. It doesn't really make much sense for Skywarp to be along the line-up in Starscream's place. There IS another jet flying around the battle however. - [[User:Clifftothemax|Clifftothemax]] 14:38, 10 February 2010
Alright, my bad :( --[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 18:54, 10 February 2010 (EST)

== Toys Confirmed, mention here? ==

So we've had the existance of WfC toys confirmed by non-leeky sources (Game Informer, Fun pub) now my question is do they rate a mention here on this page. Generally they'd ust be mentioned on the character pages but this is pretty much the first time ever a TF Video game has gotten its own toys. Worth a Trivia entry? Or it's own sub-section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:52, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:We do need to start mentioning it as news becomes official, but it's not true that this is the only Transformers game that's had its own toys. Several of the designs from the both live-action film games had toys made of them, and a Decepticlone from the Armada video game got made into an Attactix figure. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:30, 25 January 2010 (EST)
:: Can we count on you for the photos? --[[User: ThiAthEhn|ThiAthEhn]]
::: What? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:15, 27 January 2010 (EST)

We have official stock photos for two toys now, that aren't from the club. Not sure where we want to put them.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:00, 27 January 2010 (EST)
: It would help if we knew the name of the toyline they were being featured in. For now, put them on this page, I think, just because we're building this article as an attraction. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:03, 27 January 2010 (EST)
::Done. --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:08, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::Is it just me or do those look like movie-ized versions of the Animated designs? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:39, 27 January 2010 (EST)
:::: I'd say more "Classics-ized" versions of the Animated designs myself. Regardless yes it's pretty clear that the Animated, Movie, and Classics aesthetics all influenced their development, which makes sense, those being the last three main TF lines.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 10:43, 27 January 2010 (EST)

== Fresh trailer guys ==

http://kotaku.com/5480780/first-look-at-transformers-war-for-cybertron-gameplay-footage

Nothing spectacularly surprising, but looks quite awesome.

ThiAthEhn
: Yeah, uh, that's already in the article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:46, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Seriously? This one has actual gameplay, something I haven't seen in the other ones...
ThiAthEhn
: Third link in "external links" at the bottom, dude. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:08, 27 February 2010 (EST)

==Character Sources?==
I think it may be wise to put up the sources for each new character, or at least an image of them. Not all of us have the good fortune of reading Kotaku to know Grimlock is actually in the game. Just a suggestion, however. In a few months it won't matter anyway.[[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:39, 28 February 2010 (EST)
: For many characters, this isn't possible. For example, we know about the two Aerialbots from Toy Fair 2010, to which we we can't link because recording anything was forbidden. And an image of Grimlock is down in the gallery, so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:29, 28 February 2010 (EST)

==Release date==
Gamestop seems to think this game is coming out on June 22, not July 22 as this article states. They even guarantee its delivery on that date if you preorder! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:46, 2 March 2010 (EST)
sweetness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

== Motormaster ==

Here is a picture that maybe shows Motormaster in the Nintendo DS Version:
http://cache-10.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/02/500x_5231_02_0098_20100119-cli1.jpg

Also, on the tfw2005 board it has been statet that motormaster will be in the game.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-news-rumors/293592-war-cybertron-kotaku-articles-ds-version-5.html
: I can take [[Marcelo Matere]]'s word on it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:01, 6 March 2010 (EST)

== Interview and more gameplay and footage ==

http://kotaku.com/5493784/building-the-ultimate-transformers-origin-story

Always possible that you've already seen it, but here it is, feel free to add.

-Aaron Archer

-It apparantly IS G1, not seperate.

-Scorponok (?) (!) boss battle?

-And much more...

ThiAthEhn

== No PSP option... ==

Has there been any word, in an interview or announcement, as to why no PSP version of the game has been announced (and may not be, for that matter)? --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 00:28, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== [edit] It does seem like a seperate continuity ==

I think its a "revised"
backstory on g1 before they crashed into Mt. St. Helens 4,000,000 years ago. [[User:LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN|LADIES MAN TOO-ONE-SEVEN]] 15:55, 21 March 2010 (EDT)

== Voice actor thing ==

I find it hard to believe that if a site was playing April Fools on people, they wouldn't own up to the fact to tell people they got sucked in bad. Also, they posted it before April Fools and have subsequently removed all traces of the offending "false" information from the article. Anybody remember the kerfuffle over the 2008 reveal of The Fallen's role in ROTF? Same thing happened - articles swiftly edited to remove information the Bay deemed unfit for publication at the time. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
:The Activision folks also sent e-mails to Seibertron and TFormers, and Lonegamer says she actually spoke to an Activision rep on the phone on the Allspark's behalf.
:So... if it is a coverup, it's at least one that spreads beyond that one site. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
::Also, the ROTF 2008 cover up - we documented that information on the wiki for posterity. I take it we're not going to do the same for this event? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 10:08, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
:::That felt like a cover-up. See, that was about denying that a movie called REVENGE OF THE FALLEN was about a character called THE FALLEN. This doesn't feel like a cover-up to me. It feels like some video game site got their information off Wikipedia again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
::::Except that it's a rather large, detailed, substantial article that started with "AusGamers was recently invited out to High Moon Studios in San Diego" and "Some familiar voices were being thrown about the demo [insert voice actor information]". Unless the entire article is based on falsehoods and assumptions, they went up to High Moon Studios. They saw the game in action. They talked to the people who made it. Not "We made this shit up by piecing it together from things we heard online, especially Wikipedia." --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 07:25, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
:::::The whole article reeked of Did Not Do The Research. Cullen's name was misspelled, they referred to Chris Latta's real name and stage name as separate people... So yeah, I'm going to go with "idiots" over "cover-up". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:26, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
According to IMDB, Soundwave is played by [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0071818/ Jeff Bennet]. Is this legit enough for this wiki? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:22, 3 June 2010 (EDT)
:Nuh-uh. IMDB is like Wiki where any user can edit the content, be it actual or junk. I rather wait till an official announcement from either Activision or High Moon themselves. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:54, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

== New Characters' pages? ==
VM: Would I ask why nearly all characters except Demolishor are linked to their G1 incarnation? Why not make a new one WfC?
: We're not exactly sure how WFC/Prime is going to play out continuity family-wise. Until then, it's safest to link to their G1 versions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:00, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
::VM: I see, but I think personally they should have their own, but its only my opinion :)

VM: I still think new pages are needed, as for example Demolishor got one because he wasnt presented in G1, and it seems WFC isnt fully related to the G1. {{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}

:The main problem with doing that is that we aren't quite sure of their continuity yet, we don't want to make completely new pages and then find out "Oops, they're part of G1" and then have to merge their pages together. It's best just to leave the issue alone until we have more information.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 16:29, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

VM: I think that now its closer to a new continuity. Jetfire was during the war a Decepticon, not a Autobot. He joined to the Autobots on the Earth, while here he joined, or always was, on Autobot's side. I am not suggesting it to make these pages now, just there is a small piece of info which is for a new continuity.{{unsigned|89.235.30.9}}
:I'm pretty sure Jetfire was an Autobot in the War Within series. Really, WFC is drawing inspiration from all parts of G1. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 17:31, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Yeah, details like that don't mean splitting the articles. Jetfire's origins differ even more wildly than that between the G1 cartoon (lost before the war, defrosted, defected), Marvel comics (Created on Earth by the Creation Matrix) and Dreamwave (An Autobot on Cybertron during the war). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Most of them are clearly G1 characters so WfC info should go on their (G1) pages. Demolishor is clearly his UT character so his WfC info should go on his (Armada) page. No problem. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:13, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure Demolishor is just an homage and not the same character as the guy from Armada (unless dimension-hopping was involved). That's a bit like saying that Robots in Disguise and G1 Optimus Prime are the same. Robots in Disguise Prime evokes the original, but they're different people. Still, we'll just have to wait and see. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Not the cartoon continuity Demolishor or the Armada comic continuity Demolishor. Just the character Demolishor in the WfC continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:39, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::'''That Is Not How The Wiki Works.''' --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:57, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Well sure, but Hasbro doesn't seem to be playing by the rules lately. It was just a suggestion. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:12, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Just because Hasbro's not playing by the rules doesn't mean we have to follow suit. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
Can we please just drop the issue for now like I suggested?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:55, 13 May 2010 (EDT)

== Jazz? ==

The scout in the multiplayer traier looks alot like Jazz and when you hover over the pre-order button on thier website I am pretty sure its Jazz next to Shockwave

== Image Captions/Quotes ==

So for the 1986 Transformer movie, there were a bunch of quotes from Star Wars: A New Hope. Then for the 2007 movie, there were quotes from the 1986 movie. And for RotF, we did quotes from The Empire Strikes Back. I'm wondering if we should do quotes from the Halo series for the image captions for War for Cybertron. What do you think?

And in a somewhat related manner, I might have found what could possibly be the [http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/pp251/Darth_Shadow_91/warforcybertroncoverart.jpg boxart] for WfC. If we use it, I have a proposed quote.

''Men, keep your eyes downrange, fingers on the trigger, and we all come home in one piece. Am I right, Marines?''

Sgt. Avery Johnson, Halo: Combat Evolved

[[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 23:45, 29 April 2010 (EST)
:By that logic we could use Zelda or Mario quotes. Anyways, as always, unless there's some definite theme in the captions (Like Animated Wreck-Gar's page), no caption, or the caption is just a ''really'' bad joke, the captions are up to whoever adds the image.[[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 01:18, 30 April 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, couldn't we use Gears of War quotes? The two games run on extremley similar engines, have the same "gritty dark" feel, same gameplay mechanics, and I think a few Gears quotes could work well. Hate to kick a dead-ish topic, just an idea. [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 20:59, 25 May 2010 (EDT)
::I like the Halo quote idea! Ironhide's picture: "Figured I'd shoot my way out, mix things up a little." Omega Supreme's picture: "Relax, I'd rather not piss this thing off." Megatron: "I wondered who the Autobots would send to silence me. A Prime? I'm flattered." Bumblebee: "Little people first!"
::For Starscream joining the Decepticons, "What would you have your Arbiter do?" [[User:Darth Shadow 91|Darth Shadow 91]] 00:36, 06 June 2010 (EST)

== New characters ==

Over [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ here], it looks like Arcee, Slipstream, and some others are in the mix. --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 12:54, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:Those were supposed to be still under ''embargo''... -_-; --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:10, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:: Yeah, TFW doesn't really ''give a shit'' about your stupid informational release dates. They're too busy being BEST AND FIRST. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:28, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::: There's definitely an Arcee-mould character in the new Multiplayer trailer along with characters sharing moulds with Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, so we can probably confirm that one. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 18:44, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Where the hell are people getting Rumble and Frenzy from? Also, since Slipstream only shows up in the "embargo" pics, should we even mention her at all, let alone give her an article? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:51, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
:::::Embargo's been lifted (I think). As for Frenzy and Rumble, one of the concept art shows two that resemble the Casseticons, especially the blue with pile drivers. --[[User:Lonegamer78|lonegamer78]] 17:03, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
::::::If it helps, the trailer is also [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAxxAJOMt8 here] - and as noted in the [[Talk:Slipstream_%28WFC%29|talk page]] for the new Slipstream, you can see what looks to be her running towards the camera at about 1:20-1:21 (just before it switches to Arcee). --[[User:Nerroth|Nerroth]] 19:25, 5 May 2010 (EDT)
but aren't they just multiplayer character models/pre-order only? --[[Special:Contributions/98.204.17.1|98.204.17.1]] 17:45, 26 May 2010 (EDT)
:Short Answer: No. Long Answer: Well, probably not, they're almost crtainly actual characters in the story version of the game from what we've seen, but no one will know 100% for sure until the game is out and we play through and see. But still, likely, no. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 20:00, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

== So what do we do now that there is a comic? ==

[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/war-for-cybertron-preorder-bonus-idw-war-for-cybertron-1/18621/ Comic news], do we just put up a Disambig or start a full fledged Franchise treatment? [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 16:52, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
:I rather wait for further info or when any one of us gets a copy. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 17:22, 18 May 2010 (EDT)
::[http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showpost.php?p=167925&postcount=6 more info]. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:35, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
:::"Based on selected passages from the novel TRANSFORMERS: EXODUS..." So the comic is tied very closely to the novel. It sounds like they are all the same franchise. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:45, 22 May 2010 (EDT)
::::Picked my copy up and it is rather a bit more close to Exodus from the reviews elsewhere. While I don't have a copy of Exodus on hand yet, the charges against Megatron that includes bombing Six Lasers Over Cybertron and kidnapping Sentinel Prime is mentioned. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 18:20, 24 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Feel free to edit the article I set up at my [[User:Lonegamer78/Transformers: War for Cybertron (comic)|sandbox]] until we can figure out where to place the comic's article. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:52, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== For now... ==

...I'm deciding WfC is classified as a Primax-cluster universe. Now that the toys are sort of out, we really need to stick them ''somewhere''. And there's been nothing indicated that its universe isn't terribly G1y. This could change in the future as we come to understand its universe better, but we can move it then. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:56, 2 June 2010 (EDT)
:I'm beginning to wonder if the "G1 continuity family" is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't "terribly G1y" in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:49, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== Division by Game? ==

At some point soon are we going to need to give this page a major overhaul? From the sounds of it the Wii and DS versions are going to have signifigant enough character and play differnces that talking about it all as "one single game" would likely become counterproductive. Don't have the time right now to check but isn't that how we've handled multiplatform games in the past? A 360/PS3 section, a Wii section and a DS section? --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 14:15, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:I know there are two seperate articles for the PS1 and N64 versions of the Beast Wars Transmetal fighting games. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:54, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
::The games actually have different names, as well. The Wii version is called Transformers: Cybertron Adventures. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 23:55, 4 June 2010 (EDT)
:Usually there's seperate pages for different versions of the games, there'll probably be one for this game too. Might be better to wait until they're out though. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:25, 11 June 2010 (GMT)

== Matt Tieger Says... ==
I am, right now, listening to a Kotaku podcast where they are interviewing Matt Tieger, and he says War for Cybertron is "like a prequel to G1." http://ca.kotaku.com/5559654/its-a-prime-time-to-talk-transformers
So, is this confirmation of being G1, or do we still wait until the game or official fiction is released? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 22:01, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
:I think the keywords is that he used "like a" on describing WfC. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 22:07, 9 June 2010 (EDT)
Another note from the podcast: Matt Tieger says that Corey Burton is NOT the voice of Shockwave, but rather they got a sound-alike. Should this be worth mentioning? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:17, 10 June 2010 (EDT)
:: Matt Tieger has also said that WFC is a direct prequel to the G1 cartoon, which is impossible on several levels given what we know. I think a lot of what he says is to get people to buy the game (SHOCK SHOCK I KNOW) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:19, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

== DS Version ==

Source for all of these "DS-only" guys? --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:34, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
: People who've played the game. I myself have seen Kup and Dirge fairly early on in the Toys R Us demo version. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:38, 11 June 2010 (EDT)
:: After going through the game, Kup's actually not playable, never featured beyond his portrait appearing in the tutorial. Hot Rod, on the other hand, is in, though he's named Hot Shot. On the decepticon side, there's also Ramjet, Motormaster and Dragstrip--[[User:Bobbington|Bobbington]] 05:46, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

==Box Art==

I have a picture of the Box Art, should I upload it, and if there's a version already here, shouldn't we use it as the Main Picture? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 13:28, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

==

== I know some missons! ==

I resantly looked at campaign and misson desighn and it showed the names of some missons lets add that.
:Where did you look at them? Were they officially released by Hasbro/the programming company? If not, then they are not eligible for inclusion on this wiki. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:54, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
yes,
confirmed misson names are
defend iacon,
death of hope,
the final guardian,
fuel of war,
iacon destroyed,
false propaganda,
decagon plaza
these are a few confirmed missons
:Where were they released? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:57, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
Confirmed by high moon.
:Where? When? Source, please? --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:59, 15 June 2010 (EDT)
www.transformersgame.com go to media videos then behind the sceans campagn and misson desighn then when hes choosing a level he scrolls throgh these levels.

==James Remar==
So, was this actually confirmed? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:57, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
: I also would like to know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::I as well, but I like Remar so I filled out his article anyway. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:21, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::Given the fact you jumped all over me for that Ausgamers thing, I would have thought this article's creation would have caused some discussion. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:52, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Yeah well I figured with the article locked from anons... the WfC page would've been spared from unsourced statements. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:56, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::Someone also added the WfC Starscream thing back onto [[Doug Parker]]'s article. Has THAT been confirmed? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 21:39, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::You know... seeing as how a few folks on the Allspark have snagged copies early, why not just beg them in the thread or PM or something if they can upload screenies/scans (whichever is applicable) of the credits for us? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:40, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Never mind, now that I'm caught up over there, I see [[User:abates|abates]] already did that. XD --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:44, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-war-cybertron-discussion/309191-transformers-war-cybertron-cast-spoiler.html Spotted this over on TFW2005], FWIW. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 22:19, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::Megatron's voiced by [[Fred Tatasciore]], apparently. (BRB, making new actor pages. :P) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 22:22, 17 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::I will totally fist-pump if he is, because I freakin' called that in ''January''. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 03:49, 18 June 2010 (EDT)

== Profiles? ==

Should we bother linking to all of the available official website character profiles, or are we just going to remove the existing links once the game comes out? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 21:07, 18 June 2010 (EDT)
: They count as G1 canon so we should keep them linked to their G1 counterparts.--[[User:Primetime]] 12:06, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:: That's not what Jeysie is talking about. She's talking about the links to the official WFC website. "official website character profiles." Me, uh, I don't really have an opinion. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
::: Yeah, Walky got it in one.
::: I guess my confusion was... I wasn't sure if the links were intended as information (in which case, might as well keep 'em), or just as sources for the character being in the game (in which case, once we get an official credits list from the game itself, said sources aren't really needed).
::: Not that I'm fussed either way... I just was itching to be consistent, and wasn't sure if that involved linking or deleting. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 00:14, 19 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: For me, more info is almost always better. Link!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:23, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

==Name?==

Is there a name for the guy I'm referring to as "Giant Autobot tank thing that you fight before Zeta Prime"? He has lines and stuff, but he didn't really look like anybody I recognized. (I refuse to call him by the name "that guy who kicked my ass about a dozen times until I got lucky.") {{unsigned|Skyshock Thunderblast}} 09:22, 25 June 2010
:I'm pretty sure he's just a generic. You fight a few more during the Decepticon campaign, and some more during the Autobot campaign. I know they call the Decepticon ones "Destroyers," but I'm not sure what the Autobot ones are called. The loading-screen hints refer to them as, simply, Tanks. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:30, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::I had assumed "Destroyer" was for both Autobots and Decepticons with that body-type. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:06, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I assumed that as well, but I was just going with what I knew for certain. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 19:27, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::: I would SWEAR I heard one of the other Autobots refer to him by name. Well, Matt Tieger from Full Moon is at BC this year. Ask him? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 19:56, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
::::: Tanks for Autobots, Destroyers for Decepticons, according to the subtitles.
== DS Profile Pictures ==

Any use in screenshots for the characters as they appear in the DS Game? Will also be able to get console versions soon too.
--[[User:Scatterlung|Scatterlung]] 14:22, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

== Who's the blue Autobot Tank? ==
In the concept art (autobot recruits section, i believe) and the credits, there is a blue Autobot tank that clearly is not a blue version of Warpath, and looks like a completely different design. Is this a reference to a real Transformers character? ''(i don't know everything there is to know about transformers, so to those who do, please have mercy...)'' [[Special:Contributions/24.145.176.54|24.145.176.54]] 14:08, 26 June 2010 (EDT)unregistered contributor (has accounts on other wikis, but doesn't work on this one)
:I'd say Twin Twist; while it's obviously not a jumpstarter, he's the closest thing to a blue and white Autobot tank I could find. The real mystery is why the Constructicon truck and this guy aren't in the game, since those faction/classes only have one mesh right now.
::I strongly doubt it's Twin Twist. Can you give us any more details about the character? -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 20:59, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I think it's just the model for the generic Autobot tank soldiers you fight in the game. It may not actually be that color of blue (some of the character models aren't the final colors). --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:28, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::It certainly isn't, because there aren't any. Is there any real reason it can't be Twin Twist? I can post a pic, but he doesn't look much like anyone in particular (much as the purple/green constructicon doesn't either). Tanks (or heavy enough to be tanks) are rare enough on the Autobot side to narrow it down pretty quickly: the only guys that jump out at me are Twin Twist or animated Sentinel Prime. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pnakotus/tf/IMG_0550.jpg. [[Special:Contributions/118.208.127.90|118.208.127.90]]
I have the 360 game the guy is in the credits sinama. I think he may be a sneek peak at ultar magnus for this game but thats just my gess. {{unsigned|74.103.61.137}} 06:12, 28 June 2010

== Maybe its time for a cleanup ==

The game is out, the preview stuff is now irrelevant, and solid information regarding plot, characters, continuity etc is available. Devoting 33% of the article to a promotional webgame that hasn't told us anything for six months is ... strange.
:I've worked a bit on the article today. Did a synopsis for the 360 version, but I don't own the Wii or DS ones. Someone else will have to help with those. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:27, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I'd suggest moving the Gallery to the end, using a more TFwiki standard arrangement of images/references/voice actors/etc, removing the useless 'Transmission Recovery' section, and expanding the references section (Primus, conversion cog, etc). [[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::Perhaps the 'Transmission Recovery' section could be split into a new article? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:24, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::::Sure, but the game isn't playable anymore and the video you 'recover' is just one of the trailers that are freely available.[[Special:Contributions/203.37.31.200|203.37.31.200]]
:::::Okay, the sections are shuffled to be more logical and in line with other articles. What happened to the plot synopsis? [[User:Pnakotus|Pnakotus]] 00:54, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

== Advice on writing up the weapons.==
I think the game's variety of weapons deserves a write-up, but I'm not sure if I should make individual pages for them or just put them all on one page. Information for the Null Ray, for example, was already sort-of mentioned on the page for the G1 [[Null ray]]. --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 00:41, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
:I went ahead and made a page for all of the weapons. Definitely needs pics, though... --[[User:RookJones|RookJones]] 17:01, 27 June 2010 (EDT)
::I think they really need to have individual pages - the list page doesn't really fit in with how we do things. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:44, 27 June 2010 (EDT)

== Can we lock these WFC articles down? ==

Or else I'm going to be spending the rest of my time on the wiki attempting to write WFC articles only to have to clean up after anon users (and relatively new members who don't know how to write in our style). Then I will give up because the articles are now too much work to get up to standards, video gamers who edited these articles have amazingly short attention spans and have left, and I'm the only one left who edits these things, as seen here last year: [[Revenge of the Fallen (video games)]] *cries* --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:29, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Which ones? just the main game articles? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:19, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
::Probably for the best. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:01, 30 June 2010 (EDT)
Hey, I can still edit these things too! I need to...uh...actually finish the game first, though. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:38, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Brawl (G1)

2010-06-30T08:36:41Z

Mazenoise: /* War for Cybertron... */

Okay, so Art of War, issue 3. The Decepticon HQ is referred to as the "TEMPORARY BASE OF THE NEW DECEPTICON ARMY". I personally don't read that as calling out the "New Decepticon Army" as a proper noun, meriting its own article. Thoughts? [[User:Chip|Chip]] 18:28, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
:Me either. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:30, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:Brawltww.jpg|left|thumb|150px|This... is my BOOMSTICK!]]
Hey! I saw a tank called the Mammoth Tank. The vehicle mode Brawl turn into is looking like a Mammoth Tank from C&C. Did you put something from C&C on the Transformers Wiki?!! This is a Transformers Wiki not its rival the C&C Wiki!
(Spearhead 03:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

== Trivia Time ==

The first item in the Trivia section doesn't make sense, but I can't figure out what the original writer was trying to say.

:"Early models of the team were a bit more accurate to the toys{{m-}}except for the heads, oddly enough, where the show models are quite accurate"...

Wait...so the early show models of the team were more accurate to the toys, except for the heads, meaning the show model heads are inaccurate. Then it says the show models' heads are quite accurate. What?

And if you take out the part framed by em-dashes, which should still leave a complete sentence, you get:

:"Early models of the team were a bit more accurate to the toys have shown up in various sourcebooks, though Brawl's is still off in some very odd ways."

I'm guessing this is supposed to be two sentences. The first would end at the word "toys", and the second would start off something like "These early models have shown up..." However, it's possible the author didn't mean to refer to those early models for the second sentence, so I'm hesitating to rewrite.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 15:26, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

== War for Cybertron... ==

Is the Brawl in WfC considered him or a separate character? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 15:24, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:As far as I know, all WFC characters are considered G1. I could be mistaken, though. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:02, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::Having looked around more, I now know that I am DEAD WRONG. WFC is now being considered part of the (Prime) continuity family, which means the character in War for Cybertron is Brawl (Prime) -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 16:13, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::You were right until today, further information and consideration led to the decision to split Prime/WFC/Exodus from G1. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:36, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::::So I was right on time with my question! I was just wondering why there wasn't even a placeholder mention of the WFC appearance. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 04:36, 30 June 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Brawl (G1)

2010-06-29T19:24:13Z

Mazenoise: /* War for Cybertron... */ new section

Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-06-29T10:27:59Z

Mazenoise: /* Transformer references */

{{nav-wfc-game}}

[[Image: War_for_Cybertron_Next_Gen_Version_Cover_Art.jpg‎ |250px|thumb|right| "Hey.. What is Starscream doing there? Where's Megatron?"]]

'''Transformers: War for Cybertron''' is series of video games published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]] and developed by [[High Moon Studios]], [[Next Level Games]] and [[Vicarious Visions]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.<ref name="tfw2005">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]</ref> The book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' serves as a storyline lead-in to the events of the game.

==Featured Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/optimus Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) <ref>[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]</ref> ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/bumblebee Official Website profile])
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ratchet Official Website profile])
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] ([[Keith Szarabajka]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ironhide Official Website profile])
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/sideswipe Official Website profile])
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] ([[Troy Baker]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/jetfire Official Website profile])
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] ([[Patrick Seitz]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/silverbolt Official Website profile])
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] ([[Kari Wahlgren]])
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] ([[Liam O'Brien]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/airraid Official Website profile])
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] ([[Jamieson Price]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/warpath Official Website profile])
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;?id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&sc=Global&nrp=15&usc=All+Categories Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]</ref>, Amazon.com preorder exclusive in UK, also available at Gamestation in UK (Playstation 3 only.)(unlockable on DS only.)
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (DS only)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (DS only)
*[[Kup (G1)|Kup]] (DS only, not playable)
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (DS only)
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] (DS only)
*[[Zeta Prime]] (Troy Baker)
*[[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Shot]] (DS only)
|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (Fred Tatasciore) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/megatron Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([[Sam Riegel]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/starscream Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton Jr.]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/soundwave Official Website profile])
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] ([[Graham McTavish]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/thundercracker Official Website profile])
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] ([[Richard Epcar]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/skywarp Official Website profile])
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] ([[Crispin Freeman]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/breakdown Official Website profile])
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] ([[Nolan North]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/brawl Official Website profile])
*[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] ([[Steve Blum]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/barricade Official Website profile])
*[[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]] ([[Jessica Straus]])
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)
*[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]</ref>, Play.com exclusive in UK)
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (DS only)
*[[Motormaster]] (DS only)
*[[Drag Strip]] (DS only)
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (DS only)
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (DS only)<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/movie-news/images/ramjet_2.jpg Image from Hasbro's June 22, 2010 news, on War for Cybertron]</ref>
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Transformer references==
* A variety of callbacks to ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'':
** Ironhide greets the space slug with the [[Universal greeting]]. Warpath had no idea what it was.
** In the Kaon prison an Autobot is pronounced guilty and pushed off a gantry into a pit. He responds with "Spare me this mockery of justice!", the same quote from when the Quintessons sentenced Kranix the Lithone to Sharkticons.
** Rumble repeats another line from the movie: ""First we crack the shell, then we crack the nuts inside!"
** When Starscream declares himself as Decepticon leader, Megatron retorts that "[he] still function[s]."
* The [[Punch of Kill Everything]] is a multiplayer Leader Class ability and a Soldier class upgrade.
* When Skywarp calls Thundercracker ugly he replies [[Seeker (body-type)|that they look the same]]. [[The Twins|Hmmm.]]
* [[Stan Bush]] sings the [[BotCon_1997|1997 BotCon]] [[Till_All_Are_One_(Transformers_Theme)|theme song]] for the credits, and the special thanks describe the families that were involved "rock like Stan Bush".
* Air Raid pokes fun at Silverbolt's fear of heights.
* The in-game menu for stat tracking and leaderboards is called [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan 1]].
* When Ironhide asks Optimus how he knows Megatron, Optimus replies that it is a story for another time.
*Pretty much all the Achievement/Trophy names are references to other parts of Transformers history, mostly G1.
** The ones for completing the campaign chapters include [[Dark Awakening]], [[Starscream's Brigade]], [[A Prime Problem]], [[The Last Prime]], [[The Touch|You Got The Touch]], [[The War Within]], and [['Til all are one|Till All Are One]].
** Gameplay names include [[Thief in the Night]], [[Fire in the Sky]], [[Unicron|Chaos Bringer]], [[Motormaster|Motormaster!]], [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator!]], [[Bruticus (G1)|Brute-a-kiss!]], [[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]], [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide Performer]], [[Rumble (G1)|First we crack the shell...]], [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blast-a-rachnia]] and [[Ramhorn]].
* Autobots are heard to swear by '[[Primus]]', confirming his 'existence'.
* Trypticon has a 'conversion cog' that controls his transformation, and is probably a less 'branded' term for G1's [[transformation cog]].

==Versions==
* [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|360/PS3/PC]]
:The standard version of the game, and the one most publicized, was made available for two out of three of the main consoles and the PC with few changes between each.

* [[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures|Nintendo Wii]]
:The Wii version, titled ''Transformers: Cybertron Adventures'', was handled by [[Next Level Games]], and was developed as an on-rails shooter.

* [[Transformers: War for Cybertron (DS)|Nintendo DS]]
:The DS version, developed by [[Vicarious Visions]], was released in Autobot and Decepticon incarnations, with numerous exclusive characters in each.

==Toy tie-ins==
[[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Bumblebee, Optimus Prime, Megatron and Soundwave. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].

<center><gallery>
Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg
Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianMegatron.jpg
Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianBumblebee.jpg
Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianSoundwave.jpg
</gallery></center>

==Fiction==
===Comic adaptation===
[[IDW Publishing]] is bringing out a comic based on the game. News of this first got leaked when [[Australia|Australian]] website JB Hi-Fi offered a ''free'' copy of issue 1 if you pre-ordered the game from them. <ref>[http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/ps3/transformers-war-for-cybertron-bonus-comic-book/513755 TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON (Bonus Comic Book)]</ref> Later, it was available for those that purchased either the PS3 or Xbox versions of the game at Sears or Kmart in America. The story is a partial adaptation of the ''Exodus'' book. <ref name="adaptation">[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-war-for-cybertron-1-information-and-team-revealed/18661/ Transformers: War For Cybertron #1 Information and Team Revealed]</ref>

The cover artist is revealed to be [[Marcelo Matere]], who updated his DeviantArt gallery with the inked version, <ref>[http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-inks-165279485 Inks-only comic cover at Marcelo's DA gallery]</ref> with [[Priscilla Tramontano]] as colorist. <ref>[http://noprips.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-165344432 Colored cover at Priscilla's DA gallery]</ref> [[Alex Irvine]] and [[Don Figueroa]] are writing and drawing, respectively. <ref name="adaptation" />

===Prose===
*'''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]''' - This tie-in novel explores the relationship between Orion Pax and Megatron before the war.
*'''[[Bumblebee at Tyger Pax]]''' - A short story billed as the tale of Bumblebee losing his voice.
==Gallery==
<center><gallery>
Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.
Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.
Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.
Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.
Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!
Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.
Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.
Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile.
Image:DemolishorWar for Cyb.jpg|ARRHHH!
Image:Transformers_Cybertron_Adventures_Cover_Art.jpg|Prime will destroy the title. He hears what people want.
</gallery></center>

==Operation Transmission Recovery==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips/images" to you and me).

There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the "Total Recovered" amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch.

As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
| '''S. No.'''
| '''Blue'''
| '''Yellow'''
| '''Type'''
| '''Description'''
|-
| 1
| 351
| 327
| Video
| Game Trailer (unlocked by default).
|-
| 2
| 018
| 088
| Video
| Starscream flying.
|-
| 3
| 018
| 088
| Image
| Starscream standing.
|-
| 4
| 029
| 209
| Video
| Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.
|-
| 5
| 040
| 328
| Image
| Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.
|-
| 6
| 051
| 110
| Image
| Cybertron .
|-
| 7
| 073
| 190
| Image
| Optimus vs an average Decepticon.
|-
| 8
| 085
| 298
| Video
| Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).
|-
| 9
| 096
| 347
| Video
| A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).
|-
| 10
| 107
| 035
| Image
| Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.
|-
| 11
| 120
| 040
| Image
| Cybertron as seen from a moon.
|-
| 12
| 140
| 201
| Image
| Starscream flying towards Cybertron .
|-
| 13
| 162
| 359
| Image
| A red robot (Ironhide?).
|-
| 14
| 173
| 003
| Image
| A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).
|-
| 15
| 192
| 147
| Video
| Injured Autobot, trying to get up .
|-
| 16
| 203
| 094
| Video
| Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.
|-
| 17
| 214
| 004
| Image
| A city seen from a tunnel .
|-
| 18
| 225
| 199
| Image
| A city tower falling and hitting another tower.
|-
| 19
| 265
| 011
| Image
| Optimus Prime.
|-
| 20
| 284
| 021
| Image
| Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).
|-
| 21
| 295
| 249
| Video
| Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.
|-
| 22
| 306
| 041
| Image
| Cybertron as seen from another moon.
|-
| 23
| 317
| 081
| Video
| City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).
|-
| 24
| 328
| 221
| Video
| Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.
|}
It is no longer on the website.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]
*[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']
*[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']
*[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]
*[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]
*[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']
*[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]

{{DEFAULTSORT:War for Cybertron}}
[[Category: Video games]]

Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)

2010-06-28T08:47:19Z

Mazenoise: /* Trophy/Achievement list */

{{nav-wfc-game}}
{{videogame
|title=''Transformers: War for Cybertron''
|image=War_for_Cybertron_Next_Gen_Version_Cover_Art.jpg‎
|caption=It's like Gears of War, but you ''turn into'' the Centaur.
|developer=[[High Moon Studios]]
|publisher=[[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]
|date=[[June 22]], [[2010]]
|platform=PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 PC
|ratings=ESRB: T
}}

'''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.<ref name="tfw2005">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]</ref> The book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' serves as a storyline lead-in to the events of the game, which itself in turn sets the stage for the upcoming cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}

The game itself is an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game was released [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC; however, the console versions were released at Sears stores on June 17th.

{{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}
:{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}

==Synopsis==

[[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]
Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' features a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&A with Activision]</ref>

===Decepticon Campaign===
'''Chapter I: Dark Energon'''
*Characters available: [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]], [[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]

It is the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before the Transformers come to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. Megatron discovers that the factory that produces Dark Energon is guarded by a neutral army led by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and he leads an attack on the station. After his ship crashes into the hull of the station, Megatron, [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] and [[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] defeat Starscream's army and harness the power of the Dark Energon. Cornered, Starscream tells Megatron that he's the only one who knows how to make more of the energon and that he will help the Decepticon leader if Megatron takes him into his army. Megatron reluctantly agrees to this.

'''Chapter II: Fuel of War'''
*Characters available: Starscream, [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
*Boss: [[Cybertron's Sentinel]]
Megatron sends the [[seekers]] to reactivate the ancient [[Energon Bridge]] that will produce new Dark Energon. After fighting legions of Autobot defenders, they succeed.

'''Chapter III: [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] Destroyed'''
*Characters available: Megatron, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], Breakdown
*Boss: [[Zeta Prime]]
With his new powers, Megatron takes the fight straight to the Autobot's capital city. While Starscream and Brawl lead the main attack on the city, Megatron takes Soundwave and Breakdown on a flanking attack to recover the Omega Key, which will allow him to access the core of the planet. Arriving at the key's holding place, the Decepticons learn that the Autobot leader Zeta Prime has taken it to keep it safe. The team regroup with Brawl and Starscream, and use Dark Energon bombers to eliminate the remaining Autobots before storming the building in which Zeta Prime is waiting. Megatron defeats the Autobot leader, stealing the Omega Key and punching a hole in his chest. Zeta reveals that the key Megatron has just stolen only activates the ''real'' Omega Key, and that soon '''it''' will find '''him'''. Suddenly [[Omega Supreme (G1)|a huge ship awakens and takes off.]]

'''Chapter IV: Death of Hope'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Vehicle mode)
An unknown amount of time later, Megatron is commanding his ship in search of the "Omega Key". The ship is suddenly attacked by Omega Supreme, who shoots them out of the sky, causing them to crash-land in Iacon. Megatron, Soundwave and Breakdown began a desperate retreat from Omega Supreme's attack and take cover in a large tower. Once inside, the group hear Starscream announce that Megatron is dead and that he is taking command of the Decepticons (surprise!). Enraged but unable to make any outside contact, Megatron leads his forces through the city, dodging attacks from Omega Supreme while searching for a way to fight him. Soundwave discovers that they can use some of the Autobot's anti-air and anti-infantry turrets on a tower roof against the massive Autobot. Along the way, the group makes contact with Starscream and corrects his mistake, using him to distract Omega Supreme. Once they reached the turrets, the group manages to shoot down Omega Supreme, causing him to crash to the ground below.

'''Chapter V: The Final Guardian'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Robot mode)
The Decepticons descend into the impact creator to loot Omega's remains, but he transforms into robot mode, unleashing his full barrage on the squad. Megatron manages to corrupt Omega with Dark Energon, using him to reach and corrupt the core of Cybertron with Dark Energon.

===Autobot Campaign===

'''Chapter VI: Defend Iacon'''
*Characters available: [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]
*Boss: Starscream
In a decimated Iacon, the young Autobot messenger Bumblebee is sent to tell the soldier Optimus that Zeta Prime is dead. Optimus decides to take temporary control of the Autobots, adopting Bumblebee into his team. The two of them and Ratchet kick off a counterattack to push out Decepticon forces. They manage to reactivate the planetary guns, clearing the skies over Iacon, and proceed to aid [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] in reclaiming the Decagon, tangling with Starscream along the way. Entering the Decagon, Optimus receives a message from Zeta Prime, revealing that he is not yet dead but is being held in a prison in [[Kaon]].

'''Chapter VII: Kaon Prison Break'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], Bumblebee
*Boss: Soundwave
Optimus allows his team to be captured by the Decepticons and enter the prison. The three are just barely saved from a firing squad by [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]], but as they escape into the tunnels below, Air Raid is captured. The three Autobots sneak through the prison, rescuing Air Raid and releasing all the Autobot prisoners (including [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]). Using the chaos as a distraction, the trio sneak to the high security bunker Zeta Prime is being held. When the Autobots try to save them, Soundwave attacks, sending out [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]. The Autobots defeat them, but Soundwave manages to retreat. When Optimus tries to rescue Zeta, the Prime tells him that he is already dead and collapses. Optimus returns the body to the council, who tell Optimus that he must accept that he is a Prime and take up his role as leader. Thus, he becomes Optimus Prime.

'''Chapter VIII: To the Core'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]
*Boss: [[Corrupted slug|Corrupted Space Slug]]
Optimus' first task as Prime is to cure the currently infected core. Heading to the entrance, where Omega Supreme is being held by the Decepticons, the three Autobots manage to free Omega, then call in Ratchet to repair him enough to open the Omega Gate. Thanks to the help of some [[space slug]]s, Prime, Warpath, and Ironhide defeat a corrupted space slug and reach the core. However, the core tells Optimus that, in order to repair itself, it will have to shut down for millions of years, forcing Optimus and the Autobots to evacuate Cybertron. Before the core shuts down, it gives Optimus the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

'''Chapter IX: Aerial Assault'''
*Characters available: [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], Air Raid, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]
*Boss: [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]
Returning to Iacon, Optimus Prime orders the launching of a full-scale evacuation of Cybertron's surface. However, as the transports leave the atmosphere, Megatron begins shooting them down with his <s>giant purple griffin</s> massive orbital space station. Optimus relizes the need to shut down the station, and sends a group of fliers to shut it down from the inside out. The team manages to blow up the power core, but Megatron taunts them as he activates a back-up generator. Then the station itself begins to mock them. Realizing the station is a Cybertronian, the team flies to find its conversion cog to force it into its robot mode before it can finish leveling Iacon, and Optimus with it. Succeeding, the Autobots race out of the quickly transforming space station as it reveals itself to be Trypticon. The Autobots shoot out the massive Decepticon's jetpack, causing it to hurtle towards the surface of the planet.

'''Chapter X: One Shall Stand...'''
*Characters available: Optimus, Bumblebee, Ironhide
*Boss: Trypticon
All seems quiet as Optimus and others search the wreckage, but soon a very much alive and enraged Trypticon emerges to wage a long and difficult battle with the Autobots. After targeting key weaknesses, Optimus uses his axe to knock Trypticon off-balance, sending it plummeting into the liquid below. As the other transports escape the planet's dying surface Optimus shows his team their new ship - an [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] that will allow them to take a piece of Cybertron with them, [[Earth|wherever their adventures may take them...]]

==Characters==
At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters.

==Featured Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
*[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/optimus Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) <ref>[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]</ref> ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/bumblebee Official Website profile])
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ratchet Official Website profile])
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] ([[Keith Szarabajka]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ironhide Official Website profile])
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/sideswipe Official Website profile])
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] ([[Troy Baker]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/jetfire Official Website profile])
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] ([[Patrick Seitz]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/silverbolt Official Website profile])
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] ([[Kari Wahlgren]])
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] ([[Liam O'Brien]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/airraid Official Website profile])
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] ([[Jamieson Price]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/warpath Official Website profile])
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;?id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&sc=Global&nrp=15&usc=All+Categories Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]</ref>, Amazon.com preorder exclusive in UK, also available at Gamestation in UK (Playstation 3 only.)
|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (Fred Tatasciore) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/megatron Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([[Sam Riegel]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/starscream Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton Jr.]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/soundwave Official Website profile])
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] ([[Graham McTavish]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/thundercracker Official Website profile])
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] ([[Richard Epcar]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/skywarp Official Website profile])
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] ([[Crispin Freeman]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/breakdown Official Website profile])
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] ([[Nolan North]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/brawl Official Website profile])
*[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] ([[Steve Blum]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/barricade Official Website profile])
*[[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]] ([[Jessica Straus]])
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)
*[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]</ref>, Play.com exclusive in UK)
|h3=Non-Player|c3=
'''Autobots'''
*[[Zeta Prime]] (Troy Baker)
*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (Fred Tatasciore)
'''Decepticons'''
*[[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] ([[Keith Silverstein]])
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] (Keith Silverstein)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]
'''Other'''
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scouts]]
*[[Sniper (WFC)|Snipers]]
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldiers]]
*[[Flier (WFC)|Fliers]]
*[[Cloaker (WFC)|Cloakers]]
*[[Brute (WFC)|Brutes]]
*[[Heavy Soldier (WFC)|Heavy Soldiers]]
*[[Destroyers (WFC)|Destroyers]]
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Multiplayer==

The multiplayer options make up a large portion of War for Cybertron's content. Hope you have a Gold account!

===Campaign===
The single-player campaigns can be played online, with players taking control of the other two allies that are usually just dumb A.I. If other players are participating, a tally of each participants kills is kept. You know, for bragging rights.

===Escalation===
This cooperative mode puts several friends together against an unending horde of enemies. With each horde vanquished, new areas are opened. Each area contains vending machines that hold weapons, ammo, and permission to access more areas. Characters in Escalation mode are the same as those selected in Campaign; custom multiplayer 'bots are not available here.

===Multiplayer===
This broad option is where you will be spending most of your hours after you beat Trypticon. Here, players can create their own Cybertronian combatant and pit them against the multitude of online [[Fandom|transfans]] and [[Coby|12-year-olds]] that will slaughter you. Custom characters can be leveled up by killing dudes in matches, with specific bonuses being given for specific actions. As they level up, more abilities become available.

;Characters
Characters are created from four different bases, each of which feature different weapons, abilities and alternate forms. They are:
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scout]] - Cars. Fast, usually cloakers.
*[[Scientist (WFC)|Scientist]] - Jets. Also fast, usually medics and buffers.
*[[Leader (WFC)|Leader]] - Trucks. Balanced, with emphasis on defense and ally-aid.
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldier]] - Tanks. Slow and powerful, with offensive abilities.

Initially, players are only able to create one of each class, but as they level up, more slots open for a maximum of three of each class. Names can be chosen for each, but don't get too excited about making the [[Fanon|Transformer you always dreamed of]]: bodies are limited to about three options per faction and look exactly like characters from single-player (for example, the Autobot Scout category lets you choose from Bumblebee, Sideswipe or Arcee). You can, however, pick your color scheme. The palettes are rather limited, especially for Decepticons.

;Playlists
Choosing a playlist will automatically send you into a lobby, where the service will do its best to form balanced teams (I.E., you hopefully won't see a team of level 25 leaders fighting one level zero Scout). The service will also select a random [[Maps (WFC)|stage]], which players can veto. Finally, when the game begins, combatants select their character. If your scientist gets butchered too many times, you can pick a different character at any time during the match, and you will switch to it upon dying. Players also cannot pick a faction; the game does it automatically. Weapons can only be picked up from defeated enemies; ammo caches, overshields and energon are scattered throughout the stages.

Playlists include:
*'''Team deathmatch''': Kill 40 opponents to win. Games can range from four to sixteen players.
*'''Deathmatch''': Kill 20 opponents to win. It's a free-for-all.
*'''Conquest''': Defend several "power nodes" until your team gets 400 points.
*'''Code of power''': Capture the flag. Team with highest score after two rounds wins.
*'''Countdown to extinction''': Plant the bomb in the enemy's base three times to win.
*'''Power struggle''': Control the active power node until you get 400 points.

==Production==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips" to you and me).

The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched "typical sci-fi cool stuff" like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips "over and over". While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. <ref>[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]</ref>

==Trophy/Achievement list==
When completing various goals and tasks during the campaigns and in online multi-player, the player can earn Trophies on PlayStation 3 and Achievements on the Xbox 360. There are 4 kinds of Trophies: Platinum is the highest, and is only unlocked after earning all the other trophies. It is followed by Gold, which include harder tasks and worth more experience. Then Silver, with less experience than Gold, and finally Bronze which represent easier tasks and worth the least experience. On the Xbox, each achievement has a Gamerscore (G) that adds to the player's total gamerscore, which is essentially the Xbox Live version of "Street Cred".

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
| '''Achievement/Trophy name'''
| '''Achievement/Trophy description'''
| '''Gamerscore'''
| '''PS Trophy'''
|-
| [[A Prime Problem]]
| Complete "Defend Iacon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Last Prime
| Complete "Kaon Prison Break" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Touch|You Got the Touch]]
| Complete "To the Core" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The War Within]]
| Complete "Aerial Assault" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Harder They Fall
| Complete "One Shall Stand" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Dark Awakening]]
| Complete "Dark Energon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Paging Ratchet
| Revive 5 Autobot soldiers in "Defend Iacon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Beak Braker
| Shoot the 3 hidden Laserbeaks in throughout "Kaon Prion Break"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]]
| Save the slug before it is executed in "To the Core"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] Performer
| Fly through the coolant tunnels in under 23 seconds in "Aerial Assault"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| First We Crack the Shell...
| Get smashed by Trypticon's hand as he falls into energon goo in "One Shall Stand"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Recruit
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Commander
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Autobot Prime
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| [[Starscream's Brigade]]
| Complete "Fuel of War" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Fall of Iacon
| Complete "Iacon Destroyed" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]
| Complete "Death of Hope" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Victory is Mine
| Complete "The Final Guardian" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Your Lucky Day
| Kill all but 1 of the neutral prisoners in "Dark Energon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Thief in the Night]]
| Find and disable all of the security trip-wire switches in "Fuel of War"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Unicron|Chaos Bringer]]
| Destroy the planets in the Stellar Galleries in "Iacon Destroyed"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Motormaster]]!
| Race across the Chasm Bridge in under 33 seconds in "Death of Hope"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]
| Destroy all cover in the arena in "The Final Guardian"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Grunt
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Seeker
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Decepticon Warlord
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| [['Til all are one|Till All Are One]]
| Complete both Campaigns (Any Difficulty)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Bruticus (G1)|Brute-a-kiss]]!
| Ignite a Brute's back 5 times in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Footloose and Fancy Free
| Destroy a Jet Soldier's foot thrusters 5 time in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| That's No [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]]
| Headshot a Cloaker when it is invisible in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Targetmaster]]!
| Kill two snipers in 5 seconds
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| There Are Parts Everywhere
| Multi-Kill 3 car soldiers at once using an explosive weapon in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blast-arachnia]]!
| Destroy 100 spider in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Fire in the Sky]]
| Melee kill a Jet Vehicle in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Friends to the End
| Complete a level in Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Unlikely Allies
| Complete a level in Competitive Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[More than Meets the Eye (disambiguation)|More Than Meets the Eye]]
| Earn a 1st Place MVP award in any Multiplayer mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| You Got [[Spark]], Kid
| Reach level 5 in any single class in Multiplayer
| 5G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike's]] BFF
| Reach a combined class of level of 25 in Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| The [[Kup (G1)|Kup's]] Half Full
| Reach a combined class level of 50 in Multiplayer
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| Only the Strong Survive
| Reach a combined class level of 75 in Multiplayer
| 50G
| Silver
|-
| Top of the Scrap Heap
| Reach a combined class level of 100 in Multiplayer
| 75G
| Silver
|-
| [[Prime Directive]]
| Unlock Prime Mode
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Powermaster]]!
| Spend 25,000 power in Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Heavy Metal War]]
| Complete the 15th wave in Escalation
| 50G
| Gold
|-
| [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] Would Be Proud
| Destroy all hidden Autobot symbols in the Decepticon Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], Smash!
| Destroy all hidden Decepticon symbols in the Autobot Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| [[Action Master]]
| Get 10 kills with a single detached turret in any mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Wait! I Still Function!
| Get 3 kills while downed in a Co-Op campaign or Escalation
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Ramhorn]]
| Ram-kill an enemy who is stunned by an EMP Grenade in Campaign or Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Sonic Pain Wave]]
| Killing an enemy with a shock wave attack
|
|
|-
| [[Vector Sigma]] Victory
| Unlock All Trophies
|
| Platinum
|-
|}

==Demo==
On June 10, 2010, a demo for the game was released on Xbox Live Marketplace. The demo is a multiplayer only demo, and only two of the four announced classes, Soldier and Scout, are playable in the demo. Only one "Create a Character" slot is open for each class, but customization for chassis is not available yet. Players can only level up to Level 3 in each class. The only map available is "Molten", and the two gametypes available are Team Deathmatch and Conquest.

==Reception==
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The game has received many positive reviews from critics and fans alike. IGN has given the score 9/10 because of its "Great Presentation", "Fun Multiplayer", "Classy Fan Service", but subtracted from its score due to the "Repetitive Visuals".<ref>[http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1101052p1.html]</ref><ref>[http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1101052p2.html]</ref> Other scores such as 83 from GameRankings, 77 from Metacritic, 85 from GameInformer, B+ from 1UP.com, and 4 out of 5 stars from GamePro. The lowest, however, is 6.5 from Gamespot, citing the weaknesses: "Lack of visual and gameplay variety in the campaign, Paucity of ammunition, Boss fights are incredibly tedious, Friendly and enemy AI is poor, Transformations are integrated poorly with the core action".<ref>[http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/transformerswarforcybertron/review.html]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]

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Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)

2010-06-28T08:42:27Z

Mazenoise: /* Trophy/Achievement list */ I thought it would be nice to have links to the TF references...if you disagree, then just revert

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{{videogame
|title=''Transformers: War for Cybertron''
|image=War_for_Cybertron_Next_Gen_Version_Cover_Art.jpg‎
|caption=It's like Gears of War, but you ''turn into'' the Centaur.
|developer=[[High Moon Studios]]
|publisher=[[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]
|date=[[June 22]], [[2010]]
|platform=PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 PC
|ratings=ESRB: T
}}

'''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.<ref name="tfw2005">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]</ref> The book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' serves as a storyline lead-in to the events of the game, which itself in turn sets the stage for the upcoming cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}

The game itself is an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game was released [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC; however, the console versions were released at Sears stores on June 17th.

{{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}
:{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}

==Synopsis==

[[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]
Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' features a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&A with Activision]</ref>

===Decepticon Campaign===
'''Chapter I: Dark Energon'''
*Characters available: [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]], [[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]], [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]

It is the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before the Transformers come to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. Megatron discovers that the factory that produces Dark Energon is guarded by a neutral army led by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and he leads an attack on the station. After his ship crashes into the hull of the station, Megatron, [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] and [[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] defeat Starscream's army and harness the power of the Dark Energon. Cornered, Starscream tells Megatron that he's the only one who knows how to make more of the energon and that he will help the Decepticon leader if Megatron takes him into his army. Megatron reluctantly agrees to this.

'''Chapter II: Fuel of War'''
*Characters available: Starscream, [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
*Boss: [[Cybertron's Sentinel]]
Megatron sends the [[seekers]] to reactivate the ancient [[Energon Bridge]] that will produce new Dark Energon. After fighting legions of Autobot defenders, they succeed.

'''Chapter III: [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] Destroyed'''
*Characters available: Megatron, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], Breakdown
*Boss: [[Zeta Prime]]
With his new powers, Megatron takes the fight straight to the Autobot's capital city. While Starscream and Brawl lead the main attack on the city, Megatron takes Soundwave and Breakdown on a flanking attack to recover the Omega Key, which will allow him to access the core of the planet. Arriving at the key's holding place, the Decepticons learn that the Autobot leader Zeta Prime has taken it to keep it safe. The team regroup with Brawl and Starscream, and use Dark Energon bombers to eliminate the remaining Autobots before storming the building in which Zeta Prime is waiting. Megatron defeats the Autobot leader, stealing the Omega Key and punching a hole in his chest. Zeta reveals that the key Megatron has just stolen only activates the ''real'' Omega Key, and that soon '''it''' will find '''him'''. Suddenly [[Omega Supreme (G1)|a huge ship awakens and takes off.]]

'''Chapter IV: Death of Hope'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Vehicle mode)
An unknown amount of time later, Megatron is commanding his ship in search of the "Omega Key". The ship is suddenly attacked by Omega Supreme, who shoots them out of the sky, causing them to crash-land in Iacon. Megatron, Soundwave and Breakdown began a desperate retreat from Omega Supreme's attack and take cover in a large tower. Once inside, the group hear Starscream announce that Megatron is dead and that he is taking command of the Decepticons (surprise!). Enraged but unable to make any outside contact, Megatron leads his forces through the city, dodging attacks from Omega Supreme while searching for a way to fight him. Soundwave discovers that they can use some of the Autobot's anti-air and anti-infantry turrets on a tower roof against the massive Autobot. Along the way, the group makes contact with Starscream and corrects his mistake, using him to distract Omega Supreme. Once they reached the turrets, the group manages to shoot down Omega Supreme, causing him to crash to the ground below.

'''Chapter V: The Final Guardian'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Robot mode)
The Decepticons descend into the impact creator to loot Omega's remains, but he transforms into robot mode, unleashing his full barrage on the squad. Megatron manages to corrupt Omega with Dark Energon, using him to reach and corrupt the core of Cybertron with Dark Energon.

===Autobot Campaign===

'''Chapter VI: Defend Iacon'''
*Characters available: [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]
*Boss: Starscream
In a decimated Iacon, the young Autobot messenger Bumblebee is sent to tell the soldier Optimus that Zeta Prime is dead. Optimus decides to take temporary control of the Autobots, adopting Bumblebee into his team. The two of them and Ratchet kick off a counterattack to push out Decepticon forces. They manage to reactivate the planetary guns, clearing the skies over Iacon, and proceed to aid [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] in reclaiming the Decagon, tangling with Starscream along the way. Entering the Decagon, Optimus receives a message from Zeta Prime, revealing that he is not yet dead but is being held in a prison in [[Kaon]].

'''Chapter VII: Kaon Prison Break'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], Bumblebee
*Boss: Soundwave
Optimus allows his team to be captured by the Decepticons and enter the prison. The three are just barely saved from a firing squad by [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]], but as they escape into the tunnels below, Air Raid is captured. The three Autobots sneak through the prison, rescuing Air Raid and releasing all the Autobot prisoners (including [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]). Using the chaos as a distraction, the trio sneak to the high security bunker Zeta Prime is being held. When the Autobots try to save them, Soundwave attacks, sending out [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]. The Autobots defeat them, but Soundwave manages to retreat. When Optimus tries to rescue Zeta, the Prime tells him that he is already dead and collapses. Optimus returns the body to the council, who tell Optimus that he must accept that he is a Prime and take up his role as leader. Thus, he becomes Optimus Prime.

'''Chapter VIII: To the Core'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]
*Boss: [[Corrupted slug|Corrupted Space Slug]]
Optimus' first task as Prime is to cure the currently infected core. Heading to the entrance, where Omega Supreme is being held by the Decepticons, the three Autobots manage to free Omega, then call in Ratchet to repair him enough to open the Omega Gate. Thanks to the help of some [[space slug]]s, Prime, Warpath, and Ironhide defeat a corrupted space slug and reach the core. However, the core tells Optimus that, in order to repair itself, it will have to shut down for millions of years, forcing Optimus and the Autobots to evacuate Cybertron. Before the core shuts down, it gives Optimus the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

'''Chapter IX: Aerial Assault'''
*Characters available: [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], Air Raid, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]
*Boss: [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]
Returning to Iacon, Optimus Prime orders the launching of a full-scale evacuation of Cybertron's surface. However, as the transports leave the atmosphere, Megatron begins shooting them down with his <s>giant purple griffin</s> massive orbital space station. Optimus relizes the need to shut down the station, and sends a group of fliers to shut it down from the inside out. The team manages to blow up the power core, but Megatron taunts them as he activates a back-up generator. Then the station itself begins to mock them. Realizing the station is a Cybertronian, the team flies to find its conversion cog to force it into its robot mode before it can finish leveling Iacon, and Optimus with it. Succeeding, the Autobots race out of the quickly transforming space station as it reveals itself to be Trypticon. The Autobots shoot out the massive Decepticon's jetpack, causing it to hurtle towards the surface of the planet.

'''Chapter X: One Shall Stand...'''
*Characters available: Optimus, Bumblebee, Ironhide
*Boss: Trypticon
All seems quiet as Optimus and others search the wreckage, but soon a very much alive and enraged Trypticon emerges to wage a long and difficult battle with the Autobots. After targeting key weaknesses, Optimus uses his axe to knock Trypticon off-balance, sending it plummeting into the liquid below. As the other transports escape the planet's dying surface Optimus shows his team their new ship - an [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] that will allow them to take a piece of Cybertron with them, [[Earth|wherever their adventures may take them...]]

==Characters==
At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters.

==Featured Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
*[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/optimus Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) <ref>[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]</ref> ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/bumblebee Official Website profile])
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ratchet Official Website profile])
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] ([[Keith Szarabajka]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ironhide Official Website profile])
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/sideswipe Official Website profile])
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] ([[Troy Baker]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/jetfire Official Website profile])
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] ([[Patrick Seitz]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/silverbolt Official Website profile])
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] ([[Kari Wahlgren]])
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] ([[Liam O'Brien]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/airraid Official Website profile])
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] ([[Jamieson Price]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/warpath Official Website profile])
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;?id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&sc=Global&nrp=15&usc=All+Categories Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]</ref>, Amazon.com preorder exclusive in UK, also available at Gamestation in UK (Playstation 3 only.)
|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (Fred Tatasciore) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/megatron Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([[Sam Riegel]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/starscream Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton Jr.]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/soundwave Official Website profile])
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] ([[Graham McTavish]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/thundercracker Official Website profile])
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] ([[Richard Epcar]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/skywarp Official Website profile])
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] ([[Crispin Freeman]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/breakdown Official Website profile])
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] ([[Nolan North]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/brawl Official Website profile])
*[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] ([[Steve Blum]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/barricade Official Website profile])
*[[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]] ([[Jessica Straus]])
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)
*[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]</ref>, Play.com exclusive in UK)
|h3=Non-Player|c3=
'''Autobots'''
*[[Zeta Prime]] (Troy Baker)
*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (Fred Tatasciore)
'''Decepticons'''
*[[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] ([[Keith Silverstein]])
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] (Keith Silverstein)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]
'''Other'''
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scouts]]
*[[Sniper (WFC)|Snipers]]
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldiers]]
*[[Flier (WFC)|Fliers]]
*[[Cloaker (WFC)|Cloakers]]
*[[Brute (WFC)|Brutes]]
*[[Heavy Soldier (WFC)|Heavy Soldiers]]
*[[Destroyers (WFC)|Destroyers]]
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Multiplayer==

The multiplayer options make up a large portion of War for Cybertron's content. Hope you have a Gold account!

===Campaign===
The single-player campaigns can be played online, with players taking control of the other two allies that are usually just dumb A.I. If other players are participating, a tally of each participants kills is kept. You know, for bragging rights.

===Escalation===
This cooperative mode puts several friends together against an unending horde of enemies. With each horde vanquished, new areas are opened. Each area contains vending machines that hold weapons, ammo, and permission to access more areas. Characters in Escalation mode are the same as those selected in Campaign; custom multiplayer 'bots are not available here.

===Multiplayer===
This broad option is where you will be spending most of your hours after you beat Trypticon. Here, players can create their own Cybertronian combatant and pit them against the multitude of online [[Fandom|transfans]] and [[Coby|12-year-olds]] that will slaughter you. Custom characters can be leveled up by killing dudes in matches, with specific bonuses being given for specific actions. As they level up, more abilities become available.

;Characters
Characters are created from four different bases, each of which feature different weapons, abilities and alternate forms. They are:
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scout]] - Cars. Fast, usually cloakers.
*[[Scientist (WFC)|Scientist]] - Jets. Also fast, usually medics and buffers.
*[[Leader (WFC)|Leader]] - Trucks. Balanced, with emphasis on defense and ally-aid.
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldier]] - Tanks. Slow and powerful, with offensive abilities.

Initially, players are only able to create one of each class, but as they level up, more slots open for a maximum of three of each class. Names can be chosen for each, but don't get too excited about making the [[Fanon|Transformer you always dreamed of]]: bodies are limited to about three options per faction and look exactly like characters from single-player (for example, the Autobot Scout category lets you choose from Bumblebee, Sideswipe or Arcee). You can, however, pick your color scheme. The palettes are rather limited, especially for Decepticons.

;Playlists
Choosing a playlist will automatically send you into a lobby, where the service will do its best to form balanced teams (I.E., you hopefully won't see a team of level 25 leaders fighting one level zero Scout). The service will also select a random [[Maps (WFC)|stage]], which players can veto. Finally, when the game begins, combatants select their character. If your scientist gets butchered too many times, you can pick a different character at any time during the match, and you will switch to it upon dying. Players also cannot pick a faction; the game does it automatically. Weapons can only be picked up from defeated enemies; ammo caches, overshields and energon are scattered throughout the stages.

Playlists include:
*'''Team deathmatch''': Kill 40 opponents to win. Games can range from four to sixteen players.
*'''Deathmatch''': Kill 20 opponents to win. It's a free-for-all.
*'''Conquest''': Defend several "power nodes" until your team gets 400 points.
*'''Code of power''': Capture the flag. Team with highest score after two rounds wins.
*'''Countdown to extinction''': Plant the bomb in the enemy's base three times to win.
*'''Power struggle''': Control the active power node until you get 400 points.

==Production==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips" to you and me).

The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched "typical sci-fi cool stuff" like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips "over and over". While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. <ref>[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]</ref>

==Trophy/Achievement list==
When completing various goals and tasks during the campaigns and in online multi-player, the player can earn Trophies on PlayStation 3 and Achievements on the Xbox 360. There are 4 kinds of Trophies: Platinum is the highest, and is only unlocked after earning all the other trophies. It is followed by Gold, which include harder tasks and worth more experience. Then Silver, with less experience than Gold, and finally Bronze which represent easier tasks and worth the least experience. On the Xbox, each achievement has a Gamerscore (G) that adds to the player's total gamerscore, which is essentially the Xbox Live version of "Street Cred".

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
| '''Achievement/Trophy name'''
| '''Achievement/Trophy description'''
| '''Gamerscore'''
| '''PS Trophy'''
|-
| [[A Prime Problem]]
| Complete "Defend Iacon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Last Prime
| Complete "Kaon Prison Break" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Touch|You Got the Touch]]
| Complete "To the Core" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The War Within]]
| Complete "Aerial Assault" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Harder They Fall
| Complete "One Shall Stand" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Dark Awakening]]
| Complete "Dark Energon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Paging Ratchet
| Revive 5 Autobot soldiers in "Defend Iacon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Beak Braker
| Shoot the 3 hidden Laserbeaks in throughout "Kaon Prion Break"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]]
| Save the slug before it is executed in "To the Core"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] Performer
| Fly through the coolant tunnels in under 23 seconds in "Aerial Assault"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| First We Crack the Shell...
| Get smashed by Trypticon's hand as he falls into energon goo in "One Shall Stand"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Recruit
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Commander
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Autobot Prime
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| [[Starscream's Brigade]]
| Complete "Fuel of War" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Fall of Iacon
| Complete "Iacon Destroyed" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| [[The Secret of Omega Supreme]]
| Complete "Death of Hope" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Victory is Mine
| Complete "The Final Guardian" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Your Lucky Day
| Kill all but 1 of the neutral prisoners in "Dark Energon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Thief in the Night]]
| Find and disable all of the security trip-wire switches in "Fuel of War"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Unicron|Chaos Bringer]]
| Destroy the planets in the Stellar Galleries in "Iacon Destroyed"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Motormaster]]!
| Race across the Chasm Bridge in under 33 seconds in "Death of Hope"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]
| Destroy all cover in the arena in "The Final Guardian"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Grunt
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Seeker
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Decepticon Warlord
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| [['Til all are one|Till All Are One]]
| Complete both Campaigns (Any Difficulty)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Bruticus (G1)|Brute-a-kiss]]!
| Ignite a Brute's back 5 times in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Footloose and Fancy Free
| Destroy a Jet Soldier's foot thrusters 5 time in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| That's No [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]]
| Headshot a Cloaker when it is invisible in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Targetmaster]]!
| Kill two snipers in 5 seconds
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| There Are Parts Everywhere
| Multi-Kill 3 car soldiers at once using an explosive weapon in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blast-arachnia]]!
| Destroy 100 spider in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Fire in the Sky]]
| Melee kill a Jet Vehicle in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Friends to the End
| Complete a level in Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Unlikely Allies
| Complete a level in Competitive Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[More than Meets the Eye (disambiguation)|More Than Meets the Eye]]
| Earn a 1st Place MVP award in any Multiplayer mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| You Got [[Spark]], Kid
| Reach level 5 in any single class in Multiplayer
| 5G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike's]] BFF
| Reach a combined class of level of 25 in Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| The [[Kup (G1)|Kup's]] Half Full
| Reach a combined class level of 50 in Multiplayer
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| Only the Strong Survive
| Reach a combined class level of 75 in Multiplayer
| 50G
| Silver
|-
| Top of the Scrap Heap
| Reach a combined class level of 100 in Multiplayer
| 75G
| Silver
|-
| [[Prime Directive]]
| Unlock Prime Mode
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Powermaster!
| Spend 25,000 power in Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Heavy Metal War]]
| Complete the 15th wave in Escalation
| 50G
| Gold
|-
| [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] Would Be Proud
| Destroy all hidden Autobot symbols in the Decepticon Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], Smash!
| Destroy all hidden Decepticon symbols in the Autobot Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| [[Action Master]]
| Get 10 kills with a single detached turret in any mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Wait! I Still Function!
| Get 3 kills while downed in a Co-Op campaign or Escalation
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| [[Ramhorn]]
| Ram-kill an enemy who is stunned by an EMP Grenade in Campaign or Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| [[Sonic Pain Wave]]
| Killing an enemy with a shock wave attack
|
|
|-
| [[Vector Sigma]] Victory
| Unlock All Trophies
|
| Platinum
|-
|}

==Demo==
On June 10, 2010, a demo for the game was released on Xbox Live Marketplace. The demo is a multiplayer only demo, and only two of the four announced classes, Soldier and Scout, are playable in the demo. Only one "Create a Character" slot is open for each class, but customization for chassis is not available yet. Players can only level up to Level 3 in each class. The only map available is "Molten", and the two gametypes available are Team Deathmatch and Conquest.

==Reception==
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The game has received many positive reviews from critics and fans alike. IGN has given the score 9/10 because of its "Great Presentation", "Fun Multiplayer", "Classy Fan Service", but subtracted from its score due to the "Repetitive Visuals".<ref>[http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1101052p1.html]</ref><ref>[http://ps3.ign.com/articles/110/1101052p2.html]</ref> Other scores such as 83 from GameRankings, 77 from Metacritic, 85 from GameInformer, B+ from 1UP.com, and 4 out of 5 stars from GamePro. The lowest, however, is 6.5 from Gamespot, citing the weaknesses: "Lack of visual and gameplay variety in the campaign, Paucity of ammunition, Boss fights are incredibly tedious, Friendly and enemy AI is poor, Transformations are integrated poorly with the core action".<ref>[http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/transformerswarforcybertron/review.html]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]

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Flier (WFC)

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Mazenoise:

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:''Fliers are a body-type in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

A '''Flier''' was a solider type employed by the [[Autobot]]s, [[Decepticon]]s, and neutral forces, mostly during the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. Fliers would swap between their Cybertronian jet [[alternate mode]] and their robot modes, where they would hover in the air. They were relatively weak but often attacked in groups to make up for it. A popular method of destroying them was to shoot their robot mode's foot thrusters, which would send a flier sailing, often into the nearest wall, before exploding. Decepticon fliers were nicknamed "[[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]]" by Autobot infantry.

[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)

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Mazenoise: /* Featured Characters */

{{nav-wfc-game}}
{{videogame
|title=''Transformers: War for Cybertron''
|image=War_for_Cybertron_Next_Gen_Version_Cover_Art.jpg‎
|caption=It's like Halo, but you ''turn into'' the Warthog.
|developer=[[High Moon Studios]]
|publisher=[[Activision Blizzard|Activision]]
|date=[[June 22]], [[2010]]
|platform=PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 PC
|ratings=ESRB: T
}}

'''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.<ref name="tfw2005">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]</ref> The book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' serves as a storyline lead-in to the events of the game, which itself in turn sets the stage for the upcoming cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}

The game itself is an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game was released [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC; however, the console versions were released at Sears stores on June 17th.

{{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}
:{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}

==Synopsis==

[[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]
Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' features a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&A with Activision]</ref>
===Decepticon Campaign===

'''Chapter I: Dark Energon'''
*Characters available: Brawl, Barricade, Megatron

It is the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before the Transformers come to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. Megatron discovers that the factory that produces Dark Energon is guarded by a neutral army led by [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], and he leads an attack on the station. After his ship crashes into the hull of the station, Megatron, [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] and [[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] defeat Starscream's army and harness the power of the Dark Energon. Cornered, Starscream tells Megatron that he's the only one who knows how to make more of the energon and that he will help the Decepticon leader if Megatron takes him into his army. Megatron reluctantly agrees to this.

'''Chapter II: Fuel of War'''
*Characters available: Starscream, [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
*Boss: [[Cybertron's Sentinal]]
Megatron sends the [[seekers]] to reactivate the ancient [[Energon Bridge]] that will produce new Dark Energon. After fighting legions of Autobot defenders, they succeed.

'''Chapter III: [[Iacon (city-state)|Iacon]] Destroyed'''
*Characters available: Megatron, [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]], Breakdown
*Boss: [[Zeta Prime]]
With his new powers, Megatron takes the fight straight to the Autobot's capital city. While Starscream and Brawl lead the main attack on the city, Megatron takes Soundwave and Breakdown on a flanking attack to recover the Omega Key, which will allow him to access the core of the planet. Arriving at the key's holding place, the Decepticons learn that the Autobot leader Zeta Prime has taken it to keep it safe. The team regroup with Brawl and Starscream, and use Dark Energon bombers to eliminate the remaining Autobots before storming the building in which Zeta Prime is waiting. Megatron defeats the Autobot leader, stealing the Omega Key and punching a hole in his chest. Zeta reveals that the key Megatron has just stolen only activates the ''real'' Omega Key, and that soon '''it''' will find '''him'''. Suddenly [[Omega Supreme (G1)|a huge ship awakens and takes off.]]

'''Chapter IV: Death of Hope'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Vehicle mode)
An unknown amount of time later, Megatron is commanding his ship in search of the "Omega Key". The ship is suddenly attacked by Omega Supreme, who shoots them out of the sky, causing them to crash-land in Iacon. Megatron, Soundwave and Breakdown began a desperate retreat from Omega Supreme's attack and take cover in a large tower. Once inside, the group hear Starscream announce that Megatron is dead and that he is taking command of the Decepticons (surprise!). Enraged but unable to make any outside contact, Megatron leads his forces through the city, dodging attacks from Omega Supreme while searching for a way to fight him. Soundwave discovers that they can use some of the Autobot's anti-air and anti-infantry turrets on a tower roof against the massive Autobot. Along the way, the group makes contact with Starscream and corrects his mistake, using him to distract Omega Supreme. Once they reached the turrets, the group manages to shoot down Omega Supreme, causing him to crash to the ground below.

'''Chapter V: The Final Guardian'''
*Characters available: Megatron, Soundwave, Breakdown
*Boss: Omega Supreme (Robot mode)
The Decepticons descend into the impact creator to loot Omega's remains, but he transforms into robot mode, unleashing his full barrage on the squad. Megatron manages to corrupt Omega with Dark Energon, using him to reach and corrupt the core of Cybertron with Dark Energon.

===Autobot Campaign===

'''Chapter VI: Defend Iacon'''
*Characters available: [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus]], [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]
*Boss: Starscream
In a decimated Iacon, the young Autobot messenger Bumblebee is sent to tell the soldier Optimus that Zeta Prime is dead. Optimus decides to take temporary control of the Autobots, adopting Bumblebee into his team. The two of them and Ratchet kick off a counterattack to push out Decepticon forces. They manage to reactivate the planetary guns, clearing the skies over Iacon, and proceed to aid [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] in reclaiming the Decagon, tangling with Starscream along the way. Entering the Decagon, Optimus receives a message from Zeta Prime, revealing that he is not yet dead but is being held in a prison in [[Kaon]].

'''Chapter VII: Kaon Prison Break'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], Bumblebee
*Boss: Soundwave
Optimus allows his team to be captured by the Decepticons and enter the prison. The three are just barely saved from a firing squad by [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]], but as they escape into the tunnels below, Air Raid is captured. The three Autobots sneak through the prison, rescuing Air Raid and releasing all the Autobot prisoners (including [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]). Using the chaos as a distraction, the trio sneak to the high security bunker Zeta Prime is being held. When the Autobots try to save them, Soundwave attacks, sending out [[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], and [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]. The Autobots defeat them, but Soundwave manages to retreat. When Optimus tries to rescue Zeta, the Prime tells him that he is already dead and collapses. Optimus returns the body to the council, who tell Optimus that he must accept that he is a Prime and take up his role as leader. Thus, he becomes Optimus Prime.

'''Chapter VIII: To the Core'''
*Characters available: Optimus, [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]], [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]
*Boss: [[Space slug|Corrupted Space Slug]]
Optimus' first task as Prime is to cure the currently infected core. Heading to the entrance, where Omega Supreme is being held by the Decepticons, the three Autobots manage to free Omega, then call in Ratchet to repair him enough to open the Omega Gate. Thanks to the help of some space slugs, Prime, Warpath, and Ironhide defeat a corrupted space slug and reach the core. However, the core tells Optimus that, in order to repair itself, it will have to shut down for millions of years, forcing Optimus and the Autobots to evacuate Cybertron. Before the core shuts down, it gives Optimus the [[Matrix of Leadership]].

'''Chapter IX: Aerial Assault'''
*Characters available: [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], Air Raid, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]
*Boss: [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]
Returning to Iacon, Optimus Prime orders the launching of a full-scale evacuation of Cybertron's surface. However, as the transports leave the atmosphere, Megatron begins shooting them down with his <s>giant purple griffin</s> massive orbital space station. Optimus relizes the need to shut down the station, and sends a group of fliers to shut it down from the inside out. The team manages to blow up the power core, but Megatron taunts them as he activates a back-up generator. Then the station itself begins to mock them. Realizing the station is a Cybertronian, the team flies to find its conversion cog to force it into its robot mode before it can finish leveling Iacon, and Optimus with it. Succeeding, the Autobots race out of the quickly transforming space station as it reveals itself to be Trypticon. The Autobots shoot out the massive Decepticon's jetpack, causing it to hurtle towards the surface of the planet.

'''Chapter X: One Shall Stand...'''
*Characters available: Optimus, Bumblebee, Ironhide
*Boss: Trypticon
All seems quiet as Optimus and others search the wreckage, but soon a very much alive and enraged Trypticon emerges to wage a long and difficult battle with the Autobots. After targeting key weaknesses, Optimus uses his axe to knock Trypticon off-balance, sending it plummeting into the liquid below. As the other transports escape the planet's dying surface Optimus shows his team their new ship - an [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] that will allow them to take a piece of Cybertron with them, [[Earth|wherever their adventures may take them...]]

==Characters==
At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters.

==Featured Characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
*[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/optimus Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) <ref>[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]</ref> ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/bumblebee Official Website profile])
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] ([[Fred Tatasciore]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ratchet Official Website profile])
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] ([[Keith Szarabajka]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/ironhide Official Website profile])
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]] ([[Travis Willingham]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/sideswipe Official Website profile])
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] ([[Troy Baker]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/jetfire Official Website profile])
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] ([[Patrick Seitz]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/silverbolt Official Website profile])
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] ([[Kari Wahlgren]])
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] ([[Liam O'Brien]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/airraid Official Website profile])
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] ([[Jamieson Price]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/autobots/warpath Official Website profile])
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;?id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&sc=Global&nrp=15&usc=All+Categories Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]</ref>, Amazon.com preorder exclusive in UK, also available at Gamestation in UK (Playstation 3 only.)
|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] (Fred Tatasciore) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/megatron Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([[Sam Riegel]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/starscream Official Website profile]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx GameInformer profile])
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] ([[Isaac C. Singleton Jr.]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/soundwave Official Website profile])
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] ([[Graham McTavish]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/thundercracker Official Website profile])
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] ([[Richard Epcar]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/skywarp Official Website profile])
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] ([[Crispin Freeman]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/breakdown Official Website profile])
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]] ([[Nolan North]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/brawl Official Website profile])
*[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] ([[Steve Blum]]) ([http://www.transformersgame.com/game#/game/characters/decepticons/barricade Official Website profile])
*[[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]] ([[Jessica Straus]])
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)
*[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]</ref>, Play.com exclusive in UK)
|h3=Non-Player|c3=
'''Autobots'''
*[[Zeta Prime]] (Troy Baker)
*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (Fred Tatasciore)
'''Decepticons'''
*[[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] (Fred Tatasciore)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] ([[Keith Silverstein]])
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]] (Keith Silverstein)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]
'''Other'''
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scouts]]
*[[Sniper (WFC)|Snipers]]
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldiers]]
*[[Flier (WFC)|Fliers]]
*[[Cloaker]]s
*[[Brute|Brutes]]
*[[Heavy Soldier (WFC)|Heavy Soldiers]]
*[[Destroyers (WFC)|Destroyers]]
|nonumbering=true
}}

==Multiplayer==

The multiplayer options make up a large portion of War for Cybertron's content. Hope you have a Gold account!

===Campaign===
The single-player campaigns can be played online, with players taking control of the other two allies that are usually just dumb A.I. If other players are participating, a tally of each participants kills is kept. You know, for bragging rights.

===Escalation===
This cooperative mode puts several friends together against an unending horde of enemies. With each horde vanquished, new areas are opened. Each area contains vending machines that hold weapons, ammo, and permission to access more areas. Characters in Escalation mode are the same as those selected in Campaign; custom multiplayer 'bots are not available here.

===Multiplayer===
This broad option is where you will be spending most of your hours after you beat Trypticon. Here, players can create their own Cybertronian combatant and pit them against the multitude of online [[Fandom|transfans]] and [[Coby|12-year-olds]] that will slaughter you. Custom characters can be leveled up by killing dudes in matches, with specific bonuses being given for specific actions. As they level up, more abilities become available.

;Characters
Characters are created from four different bases, each of which feature different weapons, abilities and alternate forms. They are:
*[[Scout (WFC)|Scout]] - Cars. Fast, usually cloakers.
*[[Scientist (WFC)|Scientist]] - Jets. Also fast, usually medics and buffers.
*[[Leader (WFC)|Leader]] - Trucks. Balanced, with emphasis on defense and ally-aid.
*[[Soldier (WFC)|Soldier]] - Tanks. Slow and powerful, with offensive abilities.

Initially, players are only able to create one of each class, but as they level up, more slots open for a maximum of three of each class. Names can be chosen for each, but don't get too excited about making the [[Fanon|Transformer you always dreamed of]]: bodies are limited to about three options per faction and look exactly like characters from single-player (for example, the Autobot Scout category lets you choose from Bumblebee, Sideswipe or Arcee). You can, however, pick your color scheme. The palettes are rather limited, especially for Decepticons.

;Playlists
Choosing a playlist will automatically send you into a lobby, where the service will do its best to form balanced teams (I.E., you hopefully won't see a team of level 25 leaders fighting one level zero Scout). The service will also select a random [[Maps (WFC)|stage]], which players can veto. Finally, when the game begins, combatants select their character. If your scientist gets butchered too many times, you can pick a different character at any time during the match, and you will switch to it upon dying. Players also cannot pick a faction; the game does it automatically. Weapons can only be picked up from defeated enemies; ammo caches, overshields and energon are scattered throughout the stages.

Playlists include:
*'''Team deathmatch''': Kill 40 opponents to win. Games can range from four to sixteen players.
*'''Deathmatch''': Kill 20 opponents to win. It's a free-for-all.
*'''Conquest''': Defend several "power nodes" until your team gets 400 points.
*'''Code of power''': Capture the flag. Team with highest score after two rounds wins.
*'''Countdown to extinction''': Plant the bomb in the enemy's base three times to win.
*'''Power struggle''': Control the active power node until you get 400 points.

==Production==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips" to you and me).

The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched "typical sci-fi cool stuff" like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips "over and over". While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. <ref>[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]</ref>

==Trophy/Achievement list==
When completing various goals and tasks during the campaigns and in online multi-player, the player can earn Trophies on PlayStation 3 and Achievements on the Xbox 360. There are 4 kinds of Trophies: Platinum is the highest, and is only unlocked after earning all the other trophies. It is followed by Gold, which include harder tasks and worth more experience. Then Silver, with less experience than Gold, and finally Bronze which represent easier tasks and worth the least experience. On the Xbox, each achievement has a Gamerscore (G) that adds to the player's total gamerscore, which is essentially the Xbox Live version of "Street Cred".

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
| '''Achievement/Trophy name'''
| '''Achievement/Trophy description'''
| '''Gamerscore'''
| '''PS Trophy'''
|-
| A Prime Problem
| Complete "Defend Iacon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Last Prime
| Complete "Kaon Prison Break" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| You Got the Touch
| Complete "To the Core" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The War Within
| Complete "Aerial Assault" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Harder They Fall
| Complete "One Shall Stand" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Dark Awakening
| Complete "Dark Energon" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Paging Ratchet
| Revive 5 Autobot soldiers in "Defend Iacon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Beak Braker
| Shoot the 3 hidden Laserbeaks in throughout "Kaon Prion Break"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Slugfest
| Save the slug before it is executed in "To the Core"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Powerglide Performer
| Fly through the coolant tunnels in under 23 seconds in "Aerial Assault"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| First We Crack the Shell...
| Get smashed by Trypticon's hand as he falls into energon goo in "One Shall Stand"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Recruit
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Autobot Commander
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Autobot Prime
| Autobot Campaign Complete (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| Starscream's Brigade
| Complete "Fuel of War" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Fall of Iacon
| Complete "Iacon Destroyed" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| The Secret of Omega Supreme
| Complete "Death of Hope" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Victory is Mine
| Complete "The Final Guardian" on any difficulty
| 10G
| Bronze
|-
| Your Lucky Day
| Kill all but 1 of the neutral prisoners in "Dark Energon"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Thief in the Night
| Find and disable all of the security trip-wire switches in "Fuel of War"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Chaos Bringer
| Destroy the planets in the Stellar Galleries in "Iacon Destroyed"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Motormaster!
| Race across the Chasm Bridge in under 33 seconds in "Death of Hope"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Devastator
| Destroy all cover in the arena in "The Final Guardian"
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Grunt
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Easy)
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Decepticon Seeker
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Medium)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Decepticon Warlord
| Complete the Decepticon Campaign (Hard)
| 45G
| Silver
|-
| Till All Are One
| Complete both Campaigns (Any Difficulty)
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Brute-a-kiss!
| Ignite a Brute's back 5 times in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Footloose and Fancy Free
| Destroy a Jet Soldier's foot thrusters 5 time in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| That's No Mirage
| Headshot a Cloaker when it is invisible in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Targetmaster!
| Kill two snipers in 5 seconds
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| There Are Parts Everywhere
| Multi-Kill 3 car soldiers at once using an explosive weapon in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Blast-arachnia!
| Destroy 100 spider in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Fire in the Sky
| Melee kill a Jet Vehicle in Campaign or Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Friends to the End
| Complete a level in Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Unlikely Allies
| Complete a level in Competitive Co-Op
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| More Than Meets the Eye
| Earn a 1st Place MVP award in any Multiplayer mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| You Got Spark, Kid
| Reach level 5 in any single class in Multiplayer
| 5G
| Bronze
|-
| Spike's BFF
| Reach a combined class of level of 25 in Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| The Kup's Half Full
| Reach a combined class level of 50 in Multiplayer
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| Only the Strong Survive
| Reach a combined class level of 75 in Multiplayer
| 50G
| Silver
|-
| Top of the Scrap Heap
| Reach a combined class level of 100 in Multiplayer
| 75G
| Silver
|-
| Prime Directive
| Unlock Prime Mode
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Powermaster!
| Spend 25,000 power in Escalation
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Heavy Metal War
| Complete the 15th wave in Escalation
| 50G
| Gold
|-
| Scavenger Would Be Proud
| Destroy all hidden Autobot symbols in the Decepticon Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| Grimlock, Smash!
| Destroy all hidden Decepticon symbols in the Autobot Campaign
| 25G
| Silver
|-
| Action Master
| Get 10 kills with a single detached turret in any mode
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Wait! I Still Function!
| Get 3 kills while downed in a Co-Op campaign or Escalation
| 30G
| Silver
|-
| Ramhorn
| Ram-kill an enemy who is stunned by an EMP Grenade in Campaign or Multiplayer
| 15G
| Bronze
|-
| Sonic Pain Wave
| Killing an enemy with a shock wave attack
|
|
|-
| Vector Sigma Victory
| Unlock All Trophies
|
| Platinum
|-
|}

==Demo==
On June 10, 2010, a demo for the game was released on Xbox Live Marketplace. The demo is a multiplayer only demo, and only two of the four announced classes, Soldier and Scout, are playable in the demo. Only one "Create a Character" slot is open for each class, but customization for chassis is not available yet. Players can only level up to Level 3 in each class. The only map available is "Molten", and the two gametypes available are Team Deathmatch and Conquest.

==Reception==
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The game has received many positive reviews from critics and fans alike. IGN has given the score 9/10 because of its "Great Presentation", "Fun Multiplayer", "Classy Fan Service", but subtracted from its score due to the "Repetitive Visuals". Other scores such as 83 from GameRankings, 77 from Metacritic, 85 from GameInformer, B+ from 1UP.com, and 4 out of 5 stars from GamePro. The lowest, however, is 6.5 from Gamespot, citing the weaknesses: "Lack of visual and gameplay variety in the campaign, Paucity of ammunition, Boss fights are incredibly tedious, Friendly and enemy AI is poor, Transformations are integrated poorly with the core action".

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]

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Flier (WFC)

2010-06-27T22:17:15Z

Mazenoise: Fliers (WFC) moved to Flier (WFC)

{{factions|autobot|decepticon}}
:''Fliers are a body-type in the [[Transformers: War for Cybertron|War for Cybertron]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

A '''Flier''' was a solider type employed by the [[Autobots]], [[Decepticons]], and neutral forces, mostly during the [[Great War]]. Fliers would swap between their Cybertronian jet [[Alt mode]] and their robot modes, where they would hover in the air. They were relativley weak but often attacked in groups to make up for it. A popular method of destroying them was to shoot their robot mode's foot thrusters, which would send a flier sailing, often into the nearest wall, before exploding. Decepticon fliers were nicknamed "[[Seeker|Seekers]]" by Autobot infantry.

Sirian brandy

2010-06-16T19:24:23Z

Mazenoise: ...substances? That's all I can think of

:''Sirian brandy is an alcoholic drink from the [[Young Corgi Adventure]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

In the future era of [[human]] interstellar travel, alcoholic beverages remain as popular as they are today and '''Sirian brandy''' is no exception.

==Fiction==
===Young Corgi Adventure books===
[[You]] delivered what you ''thought'' was a crate of Sirian brandy to the [[Wolf at the Door]] nightclub on [[Nebulos]]. In reality, the club was a cover for the [[Decepticon]] [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] and the "Sirian brandy" was actually a catalytic stimulant they planned to use to awaken their [[Attack Squad robot]]s from cryogenic suspension to gain an advantage over the [[Autobot]]s on Nebulos. Thankfully you helped [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Firebolt|Professor Sparks]] defeat the Decepticons and destroy the ASRs. {{storylink|Desert of Danger}}

==Notes==
*''Real'' Sirian brandy presumably comes from [[wikipedia:Sirius|Sirius]].

[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:Substances]]

Monacus

2010-06-16T19:08:36Z

Mazenoise:

[[Image:Monacus.jpg|right|300px|thumb|What happens in Monacus stays in Monacus.<ref>That screaming case of [[Scraplet]]s you got in Monacus won't actually stay in Monacus.</ref>]]

'''Monacus''' is a bleak, barren asteroid known as a haven for gamblers and characters of all types.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
Monacus is the destination for [[Bosch]] and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] after the former takes Optimus Prime, Inferno, Bumblebee and Perceptor as prisoners.

If you have a need to sell robot slaves, watch gladiatorial games, or loose the payroll on slots, then head on down. The dank district of [[Sheol]] is located on Monacus, home to [[Lord Gyconi]]'s Pit of Destruction arena. {{Storylink|The Gambler}}

It's known to be visited by [[Devcon (G1)|bounty hunters]] as well.

==Notes==
* Monacus is named for the real-world sovereign state of [[Wikipedia:Monaco|Monaco]], famous for the Monte Carlo casino.

==Footnotes==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Generation 1 locations]]
[[Category:Space]]

Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)

2010-06-16T17:53:07Z

Mazenoise: /* Demo */

[[Image:Transformerswarforcybertron.jpg|center|500px|]]

'''''Transformers: War for Cybertron''''' is a video game developed by [[High Moon Studios]] and published by [[Activision Blizzard|Activision]], set before the Transformers take their war to [[Earth]]. [[Hasbro]] intends it to act as a foundation for ''[[Transformers brand|Transformers]]'' franchise storylines for years to come, and so they've been giving a lot of input and stressing character development.<ref name="tfw2005">[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/tfw2005-war-for-cybertron-interview-with-aaron-archer-and-matt-tieger-168910/ War for Cybertron interview with Aaron Archer and Matt Tieger @ TFW2005.com]</ref> The upcoming book ''[[Exodus: The Official History of the War for Cybertron]]'' will be a tie-in to the game and its fiction, as will the cartoon series ''[[Transformers: Prime]]''.{{fact}}

Unlike previous ''Transformers'' video games which feature distinctly separate campaigns for the Autobots and the Decepticons (traditionally depicting the playable faction utterly defeating the other), ''War for Cybertron'' will feature a single, linear storyline; the Decepticon campaign occurs chronologically before the Autobot campaign, but [[Fandom|fans]] can play through them in whichever order they prefer.<ref>[http://www.seibertron.com/news/index.php?f_keyword=war+for+cybertron Seibertron Q&A with Activision]</ref>

The game itself will be an over-the-shoulder third-person shooter in which the player can choose his character from a small roster of either Autobots or Decepticons. The game will be released on [[June 22]], [[2010]], for Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, Nintendo Wii (as ''[[Transformers: Cybertron Adventures]]''), Nintendo DS and personal computers.
{{quote|One shall stand.|Optimus}}
:{{quote|One shall fall.|Megatron}}

==Synopsis==

[[Image:WarforCybertron-OptimusPrime.jpg|right|thumb|400px|Prime auditions for Unreal Tournament. There were no survivors.]]

The game is set during the waning days of the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] before coming to Earth. [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], genuinely believing a caste system will bring Cybertron back to its [[Golden Age]], is researching a dangerous power source known as [[Dark Energon]] to fuel his conquest of the planet. [[Optimus Prime (G1)|A guy called Optimus]] assumes temporary command following an attack on [[Iacon]] that killed [[Zeta Prime]], but he is not yet leader of the Autobots and doesn't really want to be in charge either. <ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/video-games-17/war-for-cybertron---tfw2005-visits-high-moon-studios--gameplay-impressions-169615/ TFW2005 visits High Moon Studios]</ref>

[[Starscream]] joins the Decepticons as second-in-command, but does not consider either Optimus or Megatron to have the planet's best interests at heart. (We will apparently learn ''why'' Starscream is such a whopping traitor and why Megatron [[:Image:Infiltration6_takeyourpunishment.jpg|doesn't just]] [[:Image:Swordscream.JPG|kill him]]).

==Characters==
At the start of each level, the player can choose from one of three characters. Characters belong to one of four distinct classes:

* '''Leaders:''' Vehicle forms are trucks. Support their team with buffs and debuff the enemy team.
* '''Soldiers:''' Vehicle forms are tanks. Have heavy-hitting ranged and melee weaponry.
* '''Scientists:''' Vehicle forms are jets. Use a variety of tricky technology and precise long-distance weaponry to heal their allies and control the battlefield from a distance.
* '''Scouts:''' Vehicle forms are cars. Specialize in evasion and high-speed combat, along with disabling functions like EMP grenades.

The characters available will shift from level to level.

Known playable characters include:
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus_Prime_(G1)#War_for_Cybertron_video_game|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/11/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-optimus-prime.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] ([[Johnny Yong Bosch]]) <ref>[http://twitter.com/johnnyyongbosch/status/11686292590 Twitter post by Johnny Yong Bosch confirming his role as Bumblebee.]</ref>
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]
*[[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]]
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]]
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]]
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]
*[[Jazz (G1)|Jazz]] (Best Buy preorder exclusive) <ref>[http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp;jsessionid=0BAF66FE711A7E74FCE4428DB954168C.bbolsp-app04-47?_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_dynSessConf=4725946217004960156&id=pcat17071&type=page&st=Transformers+War+for+Cybertron&sc=Global&cp=1&nrp=15&sp=&qp=&list=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960 Bestbuy.com preorder page featuring a special Jazz trailer]</ref>
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (DS only)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (DS only)
*[[Kup (G1)|Kup]] (DS only)
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] (DS only)
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]] (DS only)
|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] ([[James Remar]]) ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/18/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-megatron.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] ([http://gameinformer.com/games/transformers_war_for_cybertron/b/xbox360/archive/2009/12/23/transformers-war-for-cybertron-character-profile-starscream.aspx ''WfC'' character profile])
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]
*[[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]
*[[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]]
*[[Slipstream (WFC)|Slipstream]]
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (Gamestop preorder Multiplayer exclusive)
*[[Demolishor (WFC)|Demolishor]] (Amazon.com preorder Multiplayer exclusive <ref>[http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-War-Cybertron-Playstation-3/dp/B0030HM2WO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1270579997&sr=8-1 Amazon.com preorder page featuring a special Demolishor trailer]</ref>, Play.com exclusive in UK)
*[[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] (DS only)
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (DS only)
}}
The Decepticon campaign includes a boss battle with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and the Autobot campaign includes defending [[Iacon]]. [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] appears in the IGN trailer, but he's, uh, probably not playable. Players should expect references to Cybertron locations taken from all previous Transformer stories, "things which may have only been referenced once, in one comic way back when, could be used and expanded upon."<ref name="tfw2005"/>

<center><gallery>
Image:WfC-IGN-Bumblebee.jpg|Bumblebee fires his weapon.
Image:WfC-IGN-RatchetBumblebeePrime.jpg|Ratchet, Bumblebee, and Prime in battle.
Image:WfC-IGN-OmegaSupreme.jpg|Omega Supreme attacks a platoon of Decepticons.
Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatron.jpg|Starscream and Megatron get ready for the ground assault.
Image:WfC-IGN-StarscreamMegatronSoundwave.jpg|More Decepticons!
Image:WfC-IGN-Soundwave.jpg|Soundwave sneaks around.
Image:WfC-IGN-Trypticon.jpg|Oh Primus.
Image:War for Cybertron Shockwave.jpg|Resistance really does seem to be futile.
Image:WfC-Kutaku-Grimlock.jpg|Dynobot?
Image: DemolishorWar for Cyb.jpg
</gallery></center>

==Features==
* Campaigns will be co-op online for the first time in a Transformers game.
* All playable characters have two special abilities, such as absorbing health from enemies or marking targets.
* The game will run on the Unreal engine.
* High Moon is prepared to "support the game after release," meaning either patches or downloadable content.
* Online Multiplayer is being developed for the game.
* All environments, including cover, can be destroyed.
* Characters transform at any time with an easy and quick tap of the Left Analog stick. There is no "cool down" so players can transform as often and as freely as they wish.
* The ability to create your own Transformers character for multiplayer. <ref>[http://www.3news.co.nz/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron-trailer/tabid/418/articleID/144347/Default.aspx War For Cybertron trailer news at 3news.co.nz]</ref>

==Production==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips" to you and me).

The art and design team did intense research (i.e. watched the original cartoon, looked at comics, and watched "typical sci-fi cool stuff" like ''Blade Runner'') to work out the aesthetic of Cybertron; lead artist [[Ivan Power]] remarked that the original cartoon was the main inspiration, and that Cybertron wasn't shown there so they had to rewatch the same few clips "over and over". While many of the city designs are elaborate and shiny, Decepticon [[Kaon]] was deliberately designed to be sharp-edged, rusting, and slapped together to show the Decepticons weren't interested in building a functioning society. <ref>[http://gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2009/12/21/transformers-art-video.aspx Game Informer: Behind the Art of War for Cybertron]</ref>

==Operation Transmission Recovery==

As an early marketing campaign, the game's website included the feature "Operation Transmission Recovery": using transmission and coordinate dials, you could pick up "transmissions" from Cybertron (or "video clips/images" to you and me).

There are two dials, blue (outer) and yellow (inner). Using your mouse, you can drag the dial to set coordinates. The blue dial is set by aligning it to marks on the outer circle. When aligned, it becomes a blue ring. After that, the yellow dial is set so that signal strength is full, as indicated by a meter on the right. Once a transmission is unlocked its symbol lights up and the "Total Recovered" amount increases a little bit. When you reach 100%, it tells you how many hours remain until next batch.

As of January 12, 2010, the following transmissions (Batch 9), almost all of which are part of the second trailer (link below), were available:

{| border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=5
| '''S. No.'''
| '''Blue'''
| '''Yellow'''
| '''Type'''
| '''Description'''
|-
| 1
| 351
| 327
| Video
| Game Trailer (unlocked by default).
|-
| 2
| 018
| 088
| Video
| Starscream flying.
|-
| 3
| 018
| 088
| Image
| Starscream standing.
|-
| 4
| 029
| 209
| Video
| Battle scene: Camera behind Autobots, Optimus is prominent.
|-
| 5
| 040
| 328
| Image
| Holographic map of Cybertron and its two moons.
|-
| 6
| 051
| 110
| Image
| Cybertron .
|-
| 7
| 073
| 190
| Image
| Optimus vs an average Decepticon.
|-
| 8
| 085
| 298
| Video
| Decepticon insignia (on Starscream).
|-
| 9
| 096
| 347
| Video
| A bomb explosion on Cybertron's surface (possibly the same one which made a huge hole in it).
|-
| 10
| 107
| 035
| Image
| Megatron crushes cranial unit of a poor Autobot, Starscream is visible behind him, just before the ground assault.
|-
| 11
| 120
| 040
| Image
| Cybertron as seen from a moon.
|-
| 12
| 140
| 201
| Image
| Starscream flying towards Cybertron .
|-
| 13
| 162
| 359
| Image
| A red robot (Ironhide?).
|-
| 14
| 173
| 003
| Image
| A hall (Council of Autobot Elders?).
|-
| 15
| 192
| 147
| Video
| Injured Autobot, trying to get up .
|-
| 16
| 203
| 094
| Video
| Battle scene: Trypticon joins the battle as a burning asteroid (Entry mode) behind Decepticons and Autobots run towards it.
|-
| 17
| 214
| 004
| Image
| A city seen from a tunnel .
|-
| 18
| 225
| 199
| Image
| A city tower falling and hitting another tower.
|-
| 19
| 265
| 011
| Image
| Optimus Prime.
|-
| 20
| 284
| 021
| Image
| Megatron firing his gun (at YOU).
|-
| 21
| 295
| 249
| Video
| Optimus uses his axe on a Decepticon.
|-
| 22
| 306
| 041
| Image
| Cybertron as seen from another moon.
|-
| 23
| 317
| 081
| Video
| City skyline, camera moving down, some music in the background (start of the second trailer).
|-
| 24
| 328
| 221
| Video
| Battle scene: A missile hits a battlestation and an Autobot falls down from it.
|}

==Demo==
On June 10, 2010, a demo for the game was released on Xbox Live Marketplace. The demo is a multiplayer only demo, and only two of the four announced classes, Soldier and Scout, are playable in the demo. Only one "Create a Character" slot is open for each class, but customization for chassis is not available yet. Players can only level up to Level 3 in each class. The only map available is "Molten", and the two gametypes available are Team Deathmatch and Conquest.

==Toy tie-ins==
[[Hasbro]] has confirmed that several toys will be made to tie into the promotion of the video game. These include figures of Bumblebee, Optimus Prime, Megatron and Soundwave. At [[Toy Fair 2010]], they were confirmed to be part of the [[Generations (toyline)|''Generations'' toyline]].

<gallery>
Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianOptimusPrime.jpg
Image:WFC Megatron toy.jpg
Image:Generationstoy-CybertronianBumblebee.jpg
</gallery>

==Comic adaptation==

[[IDW Publishing]] are bringing out a comic based on the game. News of this first got leaked when [[Australia|Australian]] website JB Hi-Fi offered a ''free'' copy of issue 1 if you pre-ordered the game from them. <ref>[http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/ps3/transformers-war-for-cybertron-bonus-comic-book/513755 TRANSFORMERS: WAR FOR CYBERTRON (Bonus Comic Book)]</ref> The story is a partial adaptation of the ''Exodus'' book. <ref name="adaptation">[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/transformers-war-for-cybertron-1-information-and-team-revealed/18661/ Transformers: War For Cybertron #1 Information and Team Revealed]</ref>

The artist to the cover is revealed to be [[Marcelo Matere]], who updated his DeviantArt gallery with the inked version, <ref>[http://mmatere.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-inks-165279485 Inks-only comic cover at Marcelo's DA gallery]</ref> with [[Priscilla Tramontano]] as colorist. <ref>[http://noprips.deviantart.com/art/War-of-Cybertron-Cover-165344432 Colored cover at Priscilla's DA gallery]</ref> [[Alex Irvine]] and [[Don Figueroa]] are writing and drawing, respectively. <ref name="adaptation" />

==Notes==
<references/>

==External links==
*[http://www.transformersgame.com/ Official site]
*[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-debut-transformers-war/59860 Exclusive trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']
*[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-transformers-war/62343 Exclusive gameplay trailer via 'Game Trailers TV']
*[http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/54929/transformers-war-for-cybertron/videos/transformerscyber_trl_revealtrailer_10710.html;jsessionid=8yroitu115mw Second, fuller trailer from IGN]
*[http://gameinformer.com/mag/cybertron.aspx Behind the scenes bios and information from ''Game Informer'' magazine.]
*[http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-transformers-war/62925 Civil War Story Interview at 'Game Trailers TV']
*[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/6450/20/ Press release]

[[Category: Video games]]

Ranger

2010-04-14T09:47:30Z

Mazenoise:

{{factions|autobot}}
:''Ranger is a [[human]] and [[Autobot]] [[Godmaster]] from the [[Super-God Masterforce (franchise)|Super-God Masterforce]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Ranger masterforce.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Go, Geodude! I choose you!]]
'''Ranger''' approaches life on [[Earth]] with the sort of fascination that one would normally reserve for a visitor from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. He absolutely adores the natural world (except for insects, especially cockroaches), having developed a harmonious rapport with nature that allows him to take pleasure in the simple things that many of us would either take for granted, like the sunset or the way snow falls on a mountain peak, or in the secrets of nature that most never get the chance to experience at all. As an extension of his love of nature, he withdrew from noisy city life and began working as a [[Royal Canadian Mounted Police|Mountie]] in the Canadian Rockies, living in a simple log cabin in the woods that he built himself and expressing himself by whittling and painting. And you can't even begrudge his eccentricities, because Ranger is a polite, warm, open-hearted guy who makes friends easily and is always ready to lend a hand to a complete stranger. While this simple lifestyle and emotional openness might cause you to mistakenly perceive him as naïve or pacifistic, he's actually quite willing to fight when the situation demands it. He's hot-blooded when those he loves are hurt, and is handy with a firearm, but he's also very well-educated, particularly in geography and history.

As an [[Autobot]] [[Godmaster]], Ranger is bonded to a [[Transtector]] from the [[G Nebula 89|G Nebula]] which takes the form of a tough [[Popular Earth vehicle alternate modes|baja buggy]] able to handle any terrain, and even maneuver underground. Like all Godmasters, he is endowed with the ability to manipulate [[Chōkon Power]], exemplified in his "Heat Sand Attack”, which enables him to project waves of super-heated silicon dioxide from his body, eroding [[Decepticon]] armor until it is reduced to so many grains.

:''English-Malay dub name:'' '''Joyride'''

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Hōchū Ōtsuka]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Ranger findshistranstector.jpg|left|225px|thumb|I so wish I could think of a caption that wasn't a "yellow snow" joke...]]
One day, while on routine patrol through the Rockies, Ranger's attention was caught by a strange glow emanating from beneath a patch of snow. Investigating, Ranger discovered that the source of the glow was a strange, black rock, which he took back to his cabin and stored in his barn. Although the rock baffled him, he was fascinated by it, and began repeatedly painting the mountain on which he had found it.

Some time later, Ranger was again out on patrol when he chanced upon a group of people—the [[Autobot]]s [[Ginrai]], [[Lightfoot]], [[Metalhawk]] and [[Lander]]—as they were about to enter a mineshaft. Ranger warned them that there had been a lot of cave-ins in the area, only to wind up quite bemused when they ignored his caution and went on into the mine anyway. Carrying on his way, Ranger next came upon a young man—in truth, the [[Decepticon]] [[Bullhorn]]—and supplied him with directions through the forest, after which he decided to take a break and go fishing. On the riverbank, he met two more youngsters, who introduced themselves as [[Shūta Gō]] and [[Cab]], and shared his special bait with them, enabling Cab to make his first catch all day. A few moments later, the two boys' fellow Autobot [[Headmaster Junior]] [[Minerva]] arrived, but refused to get close to Ranger, having spotted him with Bullhorn earlier and mistakenly leapt to the conclusion that he was working with the Decepticons. Before departing, Ranger told the boys that if they needed any more help, they could drop by his cabin.

[[Image:Ranger shootshydra.jpg|right|225px|thumb|With his eyesight, he probably thinks they're clay pigeons.]]
That night, when a fierce storm lashed the forest, Shūta and Cab took Ranger up on his offer, and brought the whole Autobot party to Ranger's cabin. When Lander asked about Ranger's large collection of mountain paintings, he told them about the strange rock, and at their insistence, led them out to his barn and showed it to them. In the presence of Ginrai and Lightfoot's [[Master-Brace]]s, the rock began to glow, and the Autobots realized that the monolith was, in fact, a [[Godmaster]] [[Transtector]]. Without even waiting for an objection, they slapped a pair of Master-Braces on Ranger's wrists, and when Ranger discovered he could not remove them, they knew that he was their next Godmaster. Ranger, however, was the sort of guy who thought that "Transformers" were a circus act, and so the Autobots spent the night telling him their story.

The new day dawned violently, when the Decepticon Headmaster Juniors suddenly attacked Ranger's cabin and absconded with the Transtector. As the Autobots transformed to robot mode and gave chase, Ranger was amazed at the sight of people changing into robots, but his emotions soon shifted when he discovered his wounded horse in the wreckage of the barn. As Minerva tended to the horse, Ranger, overcome with rage, pursued the Transformers with his rifle in hand, finally catching up to them just as Decepticon Godmasters [[Hydra (Masterforce)|Hydra]] and [[Buster (Masterforce)|Buster]] arrived to join the battle. Ranger opened fire and manage to shoot Hydra in the eye, prompting Buster to blast out the cliff from under Ranger's feet. As Ranger tumbled to certain doom, Ginrai shouted out the necessary directions for him to activate his Godmaster powers, and Ranger quickly followed them. As his Godmaster armor materialized around him, the Transtector rock was suddenly transformed into a baja buggy, to which Ranger connected, transforming into robot mode. Ranger was fortunate to not actually have to fight on this occasion, as the Decepticons, badly outnumbered by the Autobots, immediately fled. The Autobots despaired over the destruction of Ranger's cabin, but Ranger shrugged it off, saying it could be built again, but that he hoped the Autobots would treat him well in the meantime. {{storylink|An Enemy? The Third Godmaster, Ranger}}

[[Image:Ranger heatsandattack.jpg|left|225px|thumb|The light, I'm blind!...oh yeah, eyes are closed.]]
Ranger was quick to join in the search for the next Autobot Godmaster, helping Ginrai to scour Europe while Lightfoot and the Headmaster Juniors attended the World F-1 Grand Prix in France. While searching, Ranger stumbled upon an attack by the Decepticon Headmaster Juniors in the small village of Dagneux and tackled the three punks on his own, holding his own until the other Autobots arrived with the new Godmaster, [[Road King]], and helped him defeat them. {{storylink|At Full Strength! The Four Godmaster Gunmen}} For their first mission together, the four assembled Godmasters travelled to [[Atlan Island]] in the South Pacific, to rescue a group of doctors kidnapped by the Decepticon [[Pretender]]s. Ranger tussled with [[Dauros]], then joined in a battle with a legion of [[Seacon (Masterforce)|Seacons]], destroying an [[Overbite (Masterforce)|Overbite]] with his Heat Sand Attack. {{storylink|Save the Little Girl! The Chōjin Warriors, the Godmasters}}

Ranger was on the scene when Road King was filming a commercial for Lightfoot's company [[British Motors]], but during the shoot, word arrived that Hydra and Buster had kidnapped Lightfoot's father [[Leftfoot]]. Lightfoot sped off to rescue him, instructing Road King and Ranger not to follow him, per the Decepticons' instructions, but naturally, the pair ignored him, summoning Ginrai and observing Lightfoot's confrontation with the Godmaster brothers from afar. At the right moment, they jumped in to help him, although Ranger barely managed to get his licks in, since the furious Lightfoot was insistent on beating up the villains himself. {{storylink|Life? Death? Lightfoot Must Choose}}

[[Image:Ranger armor.jpg|right|225px|thumb|"I'm so good, I can drive with my eyes close-*CRASH*"]]
Ranger later helped defend the construction facility where the Autobots were building Ginrai's new power-up done, [[Godbomber]], against Decepticon attack, battling both the Decepticon Pretenders and Hydra and Buster. {{storylink|Will the Bomber Project Be Destroyed!?|Will the Bomber Project Be Destroyed!?}} The construction of Godbomber was subsequently completed, and its power allowed Ginrai to travel into space to battle [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] and [[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]]. {{storylink|God Ginrai - Into the Sky!!}} Lightfoot and the other Autobots could do nothing but watch the battle from Earth, but Ginrai ultimately emerged victorious. {{storylink|God Ginrai - Showdown on the Surface of the Moon}}

Ranger next went into action when he, Road King and Lightfoot rescued the passengers of a stricken cruise ship while Ginrai and the Headmaster Juniors battle the Decepticons. That battle took a surprise twist when the Autobots were suddenly saved by the final Godmaster, [[Clouder]], {{storylink|Appearance!! The Final Godmaster}} who subsequently joined their ranks. Little did the heroes realize that Clouder was, in fact, a Decepticon double-agent, who was feeding information on the Autobot base to his evil allies. Clouder's deception was soon discovered and Ranger joined in the battle to bring him down, but the damage was done: a staged attack by Hydra and Buster drew Ranger, Road King, Lightfoot and Ginrai out of the base, at which point the rest of the Decepticon forces began an all-out assault against the Autobots' headquarters. {{storylink|Secret Orders! Destroy the Autobot Base!!}} When news of the siege reached the Godmasters, Ranger and Road King continued rescue operations in the city while Ginrai and Lightfoot headed back to the base. Despite the best efforts of the Autobots, their headquarters was destroyed. {{storylink|Disaster! The Autobot Base Explodes}}

[[Image:Ranger robotmode.jpg|left|275px|thumb|]]
Ranger helped battle BlackZarak when the powerful Decepticon returned to Earth, {{storylink|BlackZarak - Destroyer from Space}} and then journeyed into space aboard Grand Maximus with the other Autobots to stop the villain from unleashing the [[Death Para-Machine]] against the Earth. {{storylink|Crisis! The Day of the Downfall of Humanity}} Ranger later battled Hydra and Buster in northern Europe, {{storylink|God Ginrai - Save Cancer!?}} then helped the other Autobots search for the Decepticons' hidden base. That search promptly ended when Shūta was kidnapped and held prisoner in the villains' lair, and while Ginrai headed there to rescue him, Ranger and the Autobot Pretenders were occupied battling the Decepticon Pretenders and Seacons in Geneva. {{storylink|God Ginrai: Showdown at the Decepticon Base}}

With the location of the Decepticon base revealed after Ginrai's battle there, the Autobots prepared to initiate a full-scale attack on their enemies, staged from Angkor Wat in Cambodia. Ranger and Road King were the last Autobots to arrive at the temples, and Ranger gave Road King a quick run-down on the ancient structure's history as they drove up to it. The subsequent attack on the Decepticon headquarters culminated in the fusion of BlackZarak with the Decepticon emperor [[Devil Z]], who collapsed the base in a failed attempt to destroy the Autobots. {{storylink|The Ultimate Combination!! BlackZarak, the New Lifeform}}

[[Image:Autobot godmasters climb.jpg|right|180px|thumb|I am not wasting money on a chair lift. The exercise is good for you]]
With their base destroyed, the Decepticons relocated to the [[Grand Canyon]], and were pursued by the Autobots, who split into teams for the attack. Ranger and the Headmaster Juniors were attacked by [[King Poseidon]], but before anything fatal could befall them, Devil Z called for the Decepticons to fall back to their next attack position in the Alps. {{storylink|Autobots! Desperate Attack!!|Autobots! Desperate Attack!!}} The Autobots again gave chase, but no sooner has they arrived in the snowy slopes than Ranger, Road King and Lightfoot were promptly buried under an avalanche by the merged BlackZarak/Devil Z entity. Ginrai and Grand Maximus dug the three heroes out, but Ginrai requested that they stay back so that he could make the first strike on BlackZarak himself. {{storylink|Malevolent and Inhuman! The True Form of Devil Z}} While Ginrai engaged BlackZarak in battle, Ranger and the other Godmasters battled the weakened Hydra and Buster, and then the Transtectors of Clouder, [[Wilder]], [[Cancer]] and Bullhorn, which had been brought to life by the power of Devil Z. At the battle's conclusion, Ginrai and the Headmaster Juniors united their powers to destroy BlackZarak and Devil Z for good, prompting the Decepticons to break off the battle and flee into space. As Ranger and the rest of the heroes watched them go, the Autobots were all enveloped in bright light, and when it faded, they found that the death of Devil Z had caused them to be separated from their Transtectors. The Transtectors themselves continued to live on as true super-robot lifeforms, and Ranger's Transtector joined with the others in pursuing the Decepticons and continuing the Transformers' war out in space. {{storylink|A Battle... and Then...}}

====''Victory'' cartoon====
[[Image:Autobots in the g nebula.jpg|right|150px|thumb|]]
Ranger's living Transtector, having taken its partner's name for its own, was among the Autobots serving under Ginrai's command, often battling the Decepticons led by Overlord in the G Nebula. {{storylink|Planet Micro - The Mysterious Warrior}}

====''Zone'' cartoon====
Ranger was among the Autobots standing onstage when the injured [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]] passed the mantle of [[Supreme Commander]] to [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]]. {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}
{{-}}
===''Super-God Masterforce'' comic===
[[Image:Ranger manga.jpg|left|210px|thumb|]]
Ranger made his dramatic entrance alongside Road King and Lightfoot, arriving in the midst of a battle between the other Autobots and a legion of legendary Decepticons with a trailer for Ginrai in tow. At Lightfoot's instruction, Ginrai combined with the trailer and wiped out the Decepticons with a blast of Chōkon Power, revealing that they were simply holograms. {{storylink|Burn, Super Soul! The New Commander Super Ginrai!}}

[[Image:Ranger cannoncraft.jpg|right|180px|thumb|This is your last picnic basket, Yogi!]]
When the Autobots traveled to the planet [[Athenia]] to attend Ginrai's coronation as [[Supreme Commander]], the Decepticons inevitably attacked. During the battle, Ranger and Road King piloted Ginrai's "Cannon Craft"and channelled their energy into them to aid their newly-appointed commander in destroying [[Scramble 7]]. {{storylink|The Battle Begins! The United Earth-Space Troops|The Battle Begins! The United Earth-Space Troops}} Ranger later battled Overlord on Earth {{storylink|God Ginrai's Amazing Super-God Combination!}} and BlackZarak and [[Darkwings]] in space. {{storylink|The Earth Family of Good and Evil}}

When BlackZarak and Overlord attacked Tokyo, Ranger and the Godmasters held off BlackZarak while Ginrai unleashed the new Autobot weapon, [[VX Bomb]], against Overlord. {{storylink|Live? Die?! The Desperate Super-God Combination}} The Godmasters also joined Ginrai in defending a city where [[Cancer]] went to against BlackZarak and the [[Sparkdash]], during which battle Ranger teamed with Clouder to take down a [[Javil]]. {{storylink|Great Turn-Around! Autobots}}

During the final battle, Devil Z possessed BlackZarak and turned on the other Decepticons, intending to absorb their Jinchōkon in order to become the ultimate lifeform. Saved by Ginrai and the Pretenders, the Decepticons turned on their former leader, and joined with Ranger and all the other Autobots in uniting their energies into the "Perfect Transform Attack”, destroying Devil Z and BlackZarak once and for all. With Devil Z's death, the humans were separated from their Transtectors, which came to life as true super-robot lifeforms. The Transtectors departed for space to carry on their war away from Earth, leaving Ranger and the others to return to their normal lives. {{storylink|The Birth of the Super Lifeforms}}

==Toys==
===Super-God Masterforce===
[[Image:Ranger masterforce toy.jpg|right|180px|thumb|]]
* '''Ranger''' (Autobot Godmaster, 1988)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-305'''
**''Accessories'': Godmaster Transtector, "Napalm Blaster”

:Ranger's Transtector transforms into red and white baja buggy, into the roof of which the figure's grey "Napalm Blaster" rifle can be plugged. Like any Godmaster, the figure cannot transform into robot mode until the Ranger Godmaster figure is transformed into engine mode and snapped into place in the socket in the toy's hood.

: Ranger was sold concurrently in Hasbro markets as [[Joyride (Autobot)|Joyride]] and [[Hotwire]], with green and magenta plastic in place of Ranger's white and red. Later in the year, the Godmaster engine was [[redeco]]ed into the [[Godmaster Warrior]] [[Aquastar]].

* '''Ranger Joy Ride''' (Autobot Godmaster, 1989)
**''Accessories'': Godmaster Transtector, "Napalm Blaster”

:Essentially just a Japanese release of [[Hasbro]]'s Joyride figure, this version of the Ranger toy was only available by mail-order, for the price of 1980 yen and four [[Robot Point|robot points]].

{{--}}
==Notes==
* According to his supplementary [[bio]] card, Ranger is 17 years old.

==External links==
* [http://tfu.info/1988/Cybertron/Ranger/ranger.htm Ranger at TFU.info]

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Defense specialists]]
[[Category:Godmasters]]
[[Category:Humans]]

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2010-04-14T09:42:12Z

Mazenoise: /* Poll entries */

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' pick a specific version of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron or Starscream. They're already being inducted!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead (Animated), Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe (Armada), Waspinator (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends '''April 21st, 2010'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:19, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

==Poll entries==
* Bluestreak (G1), Drift, Lio Junior, Skyfire (G1), Wheelie (Movie) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:23, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Elita One, Hellbat, Shokaract, Ultra Magnus, Wipe-Out --[[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:31, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Drift, Hot Shot, Shokaract, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:36, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Impactor, Jhiaxus, Liege Maximo, Scrounge, Straxus --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Drift, Hopper, Shokaract, Straxus --[[User:Jhiaxus|Jhiaxus]] 01:45, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia (BW), Bludgeon (G1), Hot Rod (G1), Jazz (G1), Prowl (Animated) --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:46, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blaster (G1), Nightbeat (G1), Rhinox (BW), Shockwave (G1), Sky-Byte (RID) --[[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 01:49, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dualor, Scorponok, Sky-Byte, Ratchet, Rattrap - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 01:59, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Emirate Xaaron, "Piano Transformer Guy", Wreck-Gar (Animated), Wreck-Gar (G1) [[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 02:07, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Grimlock, Ravage, Soundwave, Waspinator -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 02:12, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
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* Arcee (Animated), Blackarachnia (Animated), Elita One, Ravage, Wreck-Gar (Animated)--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 02:12, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide (Movie), Prowl (Animated), Rhinox, Sky-Byte, Soundwave --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:18, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Devastator, Laserbeak, Ravage, Shokaract, Ultra Magnus --[[User:LV|LV]] 02:21, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Bludgeon (G1), Soundwave (G1), Waspinator, Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 03:02, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bludgeon, Elita One, Impactor, Ratbat, Soundwave -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 03:15, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Overlord (G1), Shockwave (Animated), Sunstreaker (G1), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 03:56, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia, Dinobot, Rattrap, Ultra Magnus, Waspinator --[[User:HotAndCold|HotAndCold]] 04:47, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Devastator (G1), Dinobot, the Fallen, Hot Rod (G1), Optimus Primal -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:33, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Jazz (G1), Soundwave (G1), Ultra Magnus (G1), Vector Prime, Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 06:18, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Dinobot, Grimlock (G1), Jazz (G1), Waspinator (BW)`--[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 09:44, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dead End (SG), Grimlock (G1), Hubcap (G1), Rattrap, Sky-Byte (RID) --[[User:Bzero|Bzero]] 10:23, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Jazz (G1), Rumble, Shockwave, Shrapnel -- [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:26, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blaster (G1), Perceptor (G1), Rumble (G1), Shockwave (G1), Soundwave (G1) --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:34, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock (G1), Ramjet (Animated), Sentinel Prime (Animated), Sky-Byte (RID), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Dan|Dan]] 9:40, 1 April 2010 (CDT)
* Big Daddy (G1), Dinobot (BW), Scrounge (G1), Waspinator (BW), Wheeljack (G1) -- [[User:Tonyfitz|Tonyfitz]] 12:07, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Big Daddy (G1), Bluestreak (G1), Dinobot (BW), Sky-Byte (RID), Waspinator (BW) -- [[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 12:41, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Drift, Sky-Byte, Soundwave (BW), Tarantulas, Waspinator (BW). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:24, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Shockwave, Soundwave, Tarantulas, Waspinator. [[User:Gizen|—Gizen]] 15:00, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Arcee (G1), Elita 1(G1), Prowl (Animated), Rumble (G1), Soundwave.[[User:TFgirl|TFgirl]] 15:11, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blaster, Nightbeat (G1), Perceptor (G1), Shockwave, Wheeljack --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:49, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dirge (G1), Rattrap, Shockwave (G1), Sixshot (G1), and Soundwave (G1).[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 15:55, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blades (G1), Punch, Scourge (RID), Side Burn (RID), and Smokescreen (G1) [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 16:17, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ratchet, Shockwave, Sunstreaker, Swindle, Waspinator - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 16:42, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Arcee (G1), Dinobot (BW), Galvatron (G1), Hot Rod (G1), Soundwave (G1)---[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 17:06, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock (G1), Optimus Primal (BW), Prowl (Animated), Shockwave (Animated), Sky-Byte (RiD)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 18:47, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Crankcase (G1), Prowl (RID), Red Alert (Armada), Thundercracker (Cybertron), Vector Prime--[[User:Metal Gear NOIZE|Metal Gear NOIZE]] 22:20, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Cheetor (BW), Dinobot (BW), Ginrai, Optimus Primal, Prowl (Animated) --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:00, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide (Movie), Jetfire (G1), Omega Supreme (G1), Shockwave (G1), Soundwave (G1)--[[User:Shockmatter|Shockmatter]] 00:36, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide (G1), Jazz (G1), Optimus Primal, Ratchet (G1), Soundwave (G1) -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:46, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Prowl (G1), Soundwave (G1), Thunderwing (G1), Waspinator (BW) [[User:Blackjack|Blackjack]] 09:31, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot (BW), Grimlock (G1), Ravage (G1), Sentinel Prime (Animated), Waspinator [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 10:39, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Big Daddy (G1), Dinobot (BW), Rattrap (BW), Sky-Byte (RiD), Waspinator (BW) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:29, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bludgeon, Bugbite, Grimlock, Shockwave, Soundwave -- [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 09:24, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Cheetor, Soundwave (G1), Warpath (G1), Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:Chocobo prime|Chocobo prime]] 19:34, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
* Gears, Omega Supreme, Shockwave, Soundwave, Sunstreaker -- [[Special:Contributions/72.205.32.171|72.205.32.171]] 20:36, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot (BW), Jazz (G1), Soundwave (G1), Swindle (Animated), Tarantulas (BW) -- [[User:soliloquent|soliloquent]] 10:40, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot (BW), Grimlock (G1), Jazz (G1), Soundwave (G1), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:25, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
* Brawn (G1), Grimlock (G1), Optimus Primal (BW), Ratchet (Animated), Slammer (G1) --[[User:Tengu|Tengu]] 03:41, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Rotorstorm, Signal Lancer, Sixshot, Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 06:11, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock (G1), Overlord (Masterforce), Side Burn (RID), Sideways (Armada), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 10:50, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
*Grimlock (G1), Overlord (G1), Scourge (RiD), Shockwave (G1), Star Saber (Victory) -- [[User:Kup22|Kup22]] 14:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Jetfire (G1), Mirage (G1), Perceptor (G1), Prowl (Animated) --[[User:Silver|Silvery]] 14:26, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Grimlock, Hot Rod, Powerdasher (drill), Waspinator -- [[User:JediFlaherty|JediFlaherty]] 01:52, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
*Grimlock (G1), Jetstorm (BM), Shockwave (G1), Sky-Byte, Waspinator -- [[User:Quickstrike|Quickstrike]] 02:02, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Impactor, Shockwave, Soundwave, Ravage --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 04:45, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock (G1), Ironhide (G1), Optimus Primal (Beast Wars), Rodimus (Classics), Shockwave (G1) --Acheron40 09:50, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot (BW), Jazz (G1), Perceptor (G1), Swindle (Animated), Tarantulas (BW)--[[User:TPScreenName|TPScreenName]] 12:38, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bluestreak (G1), Fortress Maximus (G1), Grotusque(G1), Omega Supreme(G1), Sky Dive (G1) --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 13:28, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bulkhead (Animated), Laserbeak (G1), Ratchet (Animated), Ravage (G1), Shockwave (Animated) --[[Special:Contributions/60.226.34.209|60.226.34.209]] 20:16, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing, Grimlock, Jazz, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus (g1) --[[Special:Contributions/203.45.237.63‎|203.45.237.63]] 21:20, 6 April 2010 (EDT)
* Devastator, Dinobot (BW), Grimlock, Unicron, Waspinator --[[Special:Contributions/136.152.181.185|136.152.181.185]] 20:37, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
* Galvatron, Ratbat, Rosanna, Swindle, Waspinator -- [[Derrick Wyatt]] 23:06, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia (BW), Blitzwing (Animated), Galvatron (G1), Soundwave (G1), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 23:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
* Big Convoy, Grimlock (G1), Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Sideswipe (SG) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 03:58, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
* Cheetor, Dinobot(BW), Esmeral(SG), Paddles, Roadgrabber --[[User:Ennby|Ennby]] 23:59, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide(G1),Prowl (Animated),Rodimus Prime (G1), Ultra Magnus (G1), Wreck-Gar(Animated)--[[User:OptimusMagnus4|OptimusMagnus4]] 19:35, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bulkhead (Animated), Dinobot, Grimlock, Ratchet, Tarantulas --[[User:Chip|Chip]] 21:37, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Grimlock, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Star Saber --Darkproject ,09:27, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock, Jazz, Prowl, Shockwave, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Rav|Rav]] 15:48, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide (G1), Jazz (Animated), Jazz (G1), Springer (G1), Ultra Magnus -- ABmatrix44
* Dinobot, Grimlock, Hot Rod (G1), Inferno (G1), Rattrap --airfox
* Dinobot, Ginrai, Grimlock (G1), Ironhide (G1), Optimus Primal -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 05:40, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

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2010-04-14T09:40:55Z

Mazenoise: /* Poll entries */ is Ginrai technically a human? I'm still putting him in, because he's awesome.

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' pick a specific version of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron or Starscream. They're already being inducted!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead (Animated), Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe (Armada), Waspinator (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends '''April 21st, 2010'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 01:19, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

==Poll entries==
* Bluestreak (G1), Drift, Lio Junior, Skyfire (G1), Wheelie (Movie) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:23, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Elita One, Hellbat, Shokaract, Ultra Magnus, Wipe-Out --[[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:31, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Drift, Hot Shot, Shokaract, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:36, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Impactor, Jhiaxus, Liege Maximo, Scrounge, Straxus --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 01:43, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Drift, Hopper, Shokaract, Straxus --[[User:Jhiaxus|Jhiaxus]] 01:45, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia (BW), Bludgeon (G1), Hot Rod (G1), Jazz (G1), Prowl (Animated) --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 01:46, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blaster (G1), Nightbeat (G1), Rhinox (BW), Shockwave (G1), Sky-Byte (RID) --[[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 01:49, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dualor, Scorponok, Sky-Byte, Ratchet, Rattrap - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 01:59, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Emirate Xaaron, "Piano Transformer Guy", Wreck-Gar (Animated), Wreck-Gar (G1) [[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 02:07, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Grimlock, Ravage, Soundwave, Waspinator -- [[User:Cyberlink420|Cyberlink420]] 02:12, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
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* Arcee (Animated), Blackarachnia (Animated), Elita One, Ravage, Wreck-Gar (Animated)--[[User:Wednesday|Wednesday]] 02:12, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide (Movie), Prowl (Animated), Rhinox, Sky-Byte, Soundwave --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:18, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Devastator, Laserbeak, Ravage, Shokaract, Ultra Magnus --[[User:LV|LV]] 02:21, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Bludgeon (G1), Soundwave (G1), Waspinator, Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 03:02, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bludgeon, Elita One, Impactor, Ratbat, Soundwave -- [[User:Ayellowbirds|Ayellowbirds]] 03:15, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Overlord (G1), Shockwave (Animated), Sunstreaker (G1), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 03:56, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia, Dinobot, Rattrap, Ultra Magnus, Waspinator --[[User:HotAndCold|HotAndCold]] 04:47, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Devastator (G1), Dinobot, the Fallen, Hot Rod (G1), Optimus Primal -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 05:33, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Jazz (G1), Soundwave (G1), Ultra Magnus (G1), Vector Prime, Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 06:18, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Dinobot, Grimlock (G1), Jazz (G1), Waspinator (BW)`--[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 09:44, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dead End (SG), Grimlock (G1), Hubcap (G1), Rattrap, Sky-Byte (RID) --[[User:Bzero|Bzero]] 10:23, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bruticus, Jazz (G1), Rumble, Shockwave, Shrapnel -- [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:26, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blaster (G1), Perceptor (G1), Rumble (G1), Shockwave (G1), Soundwave (G1) --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:34, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock (G1), Ramjet (Animated), Sentinel Prime (Animated), Sky-Byte (RID), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Dan|Dan]] 9:40, 1 April 2010 (CDT)
* Big Daddy (G1), Dinobot (BW), Scrounge (G1), Waspinator (BW), Wheeljack (G1) -- [[User:Tonyfitz|Tonyfitz]] 12:07, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Big Daddy (G1), Bluestreak (G1), Dinobot (BW), Sky-Byte (RID), Waspinator (BW) -- [[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 12:41, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Drift, Sky-Byte, Soundwave (BW), Tarantulas, Waspinator (BW). [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:24, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Shockwave, Soundwave, Tarantulas, Waspinator. [[User:Gizen|—Gizen]] 15:00, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Arcee (G1), Elita 1(G1), Prowl (Animated), Rumble (G1), Soundwave.[[User:TFgirl|TFgirl]] 15:11, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blaster, Nightbeat (G1), Perceptor (G1), Shockwave, Wheeljack --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 15:49, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dirge (G1), Rattrap, Shockwave (G1), Sixshot (G1), and Soundwave (G1).[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 15:55, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blades (G1), Punch, Scourge (RID), Side Burn (RID), and Smokescreen (G1) [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 16:17, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ratchet, Shockwave, Sunstreaker, Swindle, Waspinator - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 16:42, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Arcee (G1), Dinobot (BW), Galvatron (G1), Hot Rod (G1), Soundwave (G1)---[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 17:06, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock (G1), Optimus Primal (BW), Prowl (Animated), Shockwave (Animated), Sky-Byte (RiD)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 18:47, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Crankcase (G1), Prowl (RID), Red Alert (Armada), Thundercracker (Cybertron), Vector Prime--[[User:Metal Gear NOIZE|Metal Gear NOIZE]] 22:20, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Cheetor (BW), Dinobot (BW), Ginrai, Optimus Primal, Prowl (Animated) --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:00, 1 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide (Movie), Jetfire (G1), Omega Supreme (G1), Shockwave (G1), Soundwave (G1)--[[User:Shockmatter|Shockmatter]] 00:36, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide (G1), Jazz (G1), Optimus Primal, Ratchet (G1), Soundwave (G1) -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:46, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Prowl (G1), Soundwave (G1), Thunderwing (G1), Waspinator (BW) [[User:Blackjack|Blackjack]] 09:31, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot (BW), Grimlock (G1), Ravage (G1), Sentinel Prime (Animated), Waspinator [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 10:39, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Big Daddy (G1), Dinobot (BW), Rattrap (BW), Sky-Byte (RiD), Waspinator (BW) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:29, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bludgeon, Bugbite, Grimlock, Shockwave, Soundwave -- [[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 09:24, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Cheetor, Soundwave (G1), Warpath (G1), Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:Chocobo prime|Chocobo prime]] 19:34, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
* Gears, Omega Supreme, Shockwave, Soundwave, Sunstreaker -- [[Special:Contributions/72.205.32.171|72.205.32.171]] 20:36, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot (BW), Jazz (G1), Soundwave (G1), Swindle (Animated), Tarantulas (BW) -- [[User:soliloquent|soliloquent]] 10:40, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot (BW), Grimlock (G1), Jazz (G1), Soundwave (G1), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 02:25, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
* Brawn (G1), Grimlock (G1), Optimus Primal (BW), Ratchet (Animated), Slammer (G1) --[[User:Tengu|Tengu]] 03:41, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Rotorstorm, Signal Lancer, Sixshot, Wreck-Gar (Animated) --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 06:11, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock (G1), Overlord (Masterforce), Side Burn (RID), Sideways (Armada), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 10:50, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
*Grimlock (G1), Overlord (G1), Scourge (RiD), Shockwave (G1), Star Saber (Victory) -- [[User:Kup22|Kup22]] 14:24, 2 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing (Animated), Jetfire (G1), Mirage (G1), Perceptor (G1), Prowl (Animated) --[[User:Silver|Silvery]] 14:26, 4 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Grimlock, Hot Rod, Powerdasher (drill), Waspinator -- [[User:JediFlaherty|JediFlaherty]] 01:52, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
*Grimlock (G1), Jetstorm (BM), Shockwave (G1), Sky-Byte, Waspinator -- [[User:Quickstrike|Quickstrike]] 02:02, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Impactor, Shockwave, Soundwave, Ravage --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 04:45, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock (G1), Ironhide (G1), Optimus Primal (Beast Wars), Rodimus (Classics), Shockwave (G1) --Acheron40 09:50, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot (BW), Jazz (G1), Perceptor (G1), Swindle (Animated), Tarantulas (BW)--[[User:TPScreenName|TPScreenName]] 12:38, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bluestreak (G1), Fortress Maximus (G1), Grotusque(G1), Omega Supreme(G1), Sky Dive (G1) --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 13:28, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bulkhead (Animated), Laserbeak (G1), Ratchet (Animated), Ravage (G1), Shockwave (Animated) --[[Special:Contributions/60.226.34.209|60.226.34.209]] 20:16, 5 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blitzwing, Grimlock, Jazz, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus (g1) --[[Special:Contributions/203.45.237.63‎|203.45.237.63]] 21:20, 6 April 2010 (EDT)
* Devastator, Dinobot (BW), Grimlock, Unicron, Waspinator --[[Special:Contributions/136.152.181.185|136.152.181.185]] 20:37, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
* Galvatron, Ratbat, Rosanna, Swindle, Waspinator -- [[Derrick Wyatt]] 23:06, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
* Blackarachnia (BW), Blitzwing (Animated), Galvatron (G1), Soundwave (G1), Waspinator (BW) --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 23:55, 7 April 2010 (EDT)
* Big Convoy, Grimlock (G1), Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Sideswipe (SG) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 03:58, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
* Cheetor, Dinobot(BW), Esmeral(SG), Paddles, Roadgrabber --[[User:Ennby|Ennby]] 23:59, 8 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide(G1),Prowl (Animated),Rodimus Prime (G1), Ultra Magnus (G1), Wreck-Gar(Animated)--[[User:OptimusMagnus4|OptimusMagnus4]] 19:35, 9 April 2010 (EDT)
* Bulkhead (Animated), Dinobot, Grimlock, Ratchet, Tarantulas --[[User:Chip|Chip]] 21:37, 10 April 2010 (EDT)
* Dinobot, Grimlock, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Star Saber --Darkproject ,09:27, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
* Grimlock, Jazz, Prowl, Shockwave, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Rav|Rav]] 15:48, 12 April 2010 (EDT)
* Ironhide (G1), Jazz (Animated), Jazz (G1), Springer (G1), Ultra Magnus -- ABmatrix44
* Dinobot, Grimlock, Hot Rod (G1), Inferno (G1), Rattrap --airfox
* Grimlock (G1), Dinobot, Optimus Primal, Ironhide, Ginrai -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 05:40, 14 April 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Wheelie (G1)

2010-02-09T00:08:29Z

Mazenoise: /* Japanese fiction: Rhyme or Not Rhyme? */

I applaud the profile. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
::It's amazing how many sentences can rhyme without not making sense. [[User:American Girl|American Girl]] 19:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
: Well, on second thought, I applaud the concept of the bio, but think the content is more appropriate for the animated continuity section. It seems to chronicle the circumstances of the movie, and not his personality. (Remember, in Dreamwave, he was never on Quintessa that we saw.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

:Point conceded. The new bio's better than mine anyway. The whole entry is much improved. So many horrible rhymes...bwahahahahaha. --[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

We totally need to complete this entry. This deserves to be a Featured Article. sadly, I'm pretty awful about fiction. I OWN most of it, but don't REMEMBER it very well. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Having just rhymed all through the section I just added, I have no idea how Wheelie keeps it up 24/7. Exhausting! --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 09:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:Rhyming isn't really all that hard if you have the vocabulary of a bard. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 13:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed the manga summary to rhyme and keep the gag going. Though I think I write rhymes more like Dr. Seuss than Wheelie...--[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 23:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm fine with the rhyming in the article, but the rhythm really needs work. I'd change it, but I'm afraid of being accused of ripping apart large sections of the article for no good reason (see Walky's comment below).--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 22:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

==Not yet to be Featured==
Sipher, the reason I unfeatured it is because the inconsistency of the rhyme's meter is really embarrassing. If you read the history, you'll see my note. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:57, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:Then maybe you should have removed the "Featured Article" Category, which is why I put the tag on it (and is still there as of your last edit). --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 15:37, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
:: Indeed I should! Meanwhile, history is your friend. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

==Commercial voice==
Walky, Frank Welker never VOICED Scrappy-Doo! He did, however, voice Peewit. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:57, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Welker ''did'' voice Zzcooby & Freddy in new show! [[User:Wazzpinator|Wazzpinator]] 18:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

==Italian names==
I don't have the brainpower to add these in rhyme tonight. If somebody could, Wheelie was called Saetta in the dub of TFTM, and... apparently ''Scooter'' in everything else. (At least, it doesn't SEEM to be a joke...) --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 05:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
:I apologize. - Chris McFeely, not signed in

== Continuity rhymes ==

"Continuity" doesn't rhyme with "see". [It rhymes with "bitty", to pick an irrelevant-but-accurate example] - 21:39, 16 August 2009 (EDT)
:It also rhymes with "enginuity"! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 20:03, 18 August 2009 (EDT)
::Or even "ingenuity"!--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 00:27, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Ooh! Here's one that's on-topic, "ambiguity"!! -- [[User:Ziyad|Ziyad]] 07:14, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

== But seriously, folks... ==

...am I going to be hugely unpopular if I state my belief that the article has, at this point, gone way overboard? Rhymes in the section headers, line-breaks all over the place, rhymes being used to describe continuities where he ''didn't rhyme''... I think that this page has long since crossed the line between "fun" and "taking it way too far". Frankly, I would almost be in favour of scaling it back to just having a rhyming opening and captions. A ''lot'' of the fiction section is, to my eyes, suffering because of the demands of the rhyme scheme. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:11, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:All my hard work...unappreciated...:( --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:47, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::But to be serious, I wrote nearly all the rhymes in the fiction portion of the article and created the linebreaks so folks could see the scheme. The rhymes in the fiction headers and continuity notes were some no-username's doing and I've never been very fond of them.
::Still, if many people agree that the humor interferes with the facts, then we can put it to a vote as to whether we get rid of the rhymes in the headers, the rhymes all together or if we just leave it. It may be ''my'' joke, but I'm not going to have a heart attack if others want to change it so it doesn't interfere with the facts (unlike ''some'' members of this Wiki). --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 10:54, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Aw, it's not that it's not appreciated, I see what you were doing, but it's... it's like Bonecrusher hate jokes. We started out with them and they were funny when the article was small but then when it was filled in they got really tiresome but people kept dogpiling 'em on anyway, until we had to say "No more". That's sort of what I'm feeling here. The idea worked when the article was small, but when it's full (which it ''isn't'' yet!) I think it gets in the way more than it is fun. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:56, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I need to concur, although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure. At the very least, his summary. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::''I need to concur/although we should keep SOME rhymes for sure.''
:::::Why, there's one right there! :) - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:31, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
But this is the most awesome page on the wiki. It's one of the things people think of when they talk about how awesome our wiki is. It's like getting rid of the teacup ride at Disneyland. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:Or the testicles in ROTF. The ''Awesome'' defense only goes so far, especially in Transformers.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:44, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::That's a terrible analogy. When people talk about our wiki, they mention our Wheelie article that is all rhymes, and this is a good thing that they think epitomizes what we stand for and why we're better than other wikis. When people talk about Devastator's balls, it's derisively. I don't understand your comparison. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:46, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::::It's simple - Devastator's testicle's are 'awesome.' Bay thinks so. A lot of the moviegoing public though so. Most 'serious' fans thought otherwise. But an awful lot of people laughed and laughed at them, probably more than will ever read this wiki. Just because one group of people thinks something is awesome doesn't keep it from getting in the way of (imparting information / telling a strong story.) The fandom can be be a bit of an insulated community - an echo chamber, if you will. Pointing to anecdotal evidence one way or the other shouldn't be our benchmark. It's much more useful to go back to core principles.
::::But mostly I was seizing on your use of the word ''awesome'' which has been forever commingled with Bay for me.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:25, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::Well, I think the charm of us writing articles in the personality of the characters extends to more than just this one. [[Crankcase (G1)|Crankcase]], [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Rewind]], etc., for instance. It can actually be weirdly useful sometimes in conveying information about characters without having to spell it out. But, if it's getting in the way of having an actual informative article in any instance, then it ''does'' need toning down. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:35, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

::I agree some of the rhyming should go. The headers, external link, notes and voice actor info in rhyme seems redundant to me, if not annoying. I can somewhat dig the argument not to put rhyme in sections of fiction in which he didn't rhyme, although I'd hate to see it go. But what I think would greatly help this article is a better layout. Currently, the article is all rather statically and confusingly "text-humongous white space-pic". I'd like to see it being connected a tad more by switching the text-pic order every second fiction/rhyme-paragraph (as well as having some of the paragraphs expanded). [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:48, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
::I think all of the ''paragraphs'' should remain in rhyme. Headers, bullet-point "list" items... no. That's overkill. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 12:51, 10 October 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, mark me down as a compromise vote. Ditch the headers/notes, etc rhymes but keep the fiction section poetry. Partly because I spent a lot of time writing most of it, but also because I don't think the fiction poetry really interferes with the knowledge. The headers and stuff is annoying, though. --'''DrSpengler (at work, can't log in)'''
::::I'll agree with that. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 14:55, 12 October 2009 (EDT)
::::I'd quite happily dump the whole joke, which was never that funny. And it does seriously impede the article. '''Vote NO on this from me''' [[User:Eire]] 20.02 Oct 12 09 (UTC)

==Japanese fiction: Rhyme or Not Rhyme?==

Recently, I've been told to stop writing the Japanese fiction sections in rhyme because Wheelie didn't rhyme in Japan, and that all rhymes should be reverted to standard. I wrote the Japanes fiction sections in rhyme to keep up the theme and flow of the article, and because it was fun, yeah. But if everyone else thinks the Japanese fiction sections should be de-rhymed, then so be it. Let's take a vote. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 12:26, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''AGAINST''' rhyme in the Japanese section. It simply isn't appropriate for that incarnation of the character.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 12:39, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it''' because I like the general theme of the page, it's fun, and because Wheelie only never rhymed because the Japanese language sucks at rhyming (same reason why their poems and music lyrics don't rhyme). The sentence structure just doesn't work in its favor. Just because the Japanese couldn't do it doesn't mean we should follow suit. English rocks at rhyming. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 12:55, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Here's me voting '''for it''', because if we're going to do a gag, we ought to be consistent with it throughout the article, or it looks half-assed. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 13:33, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keep it consistent or keep it out. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:38, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:Just so there's no confusion, I am obviously '''for it'''. I think the rhymes make the article fun and I believe that having random non-rhyming chunks would break up the flow of the page. And doing it just because Wheelie didn't rhyme in certain continuities isn't worth killing the fun. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:40, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for it'''. Keeps the page consistent and there's already someone willing to do it. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:00, 8 February 2010 (EST)
: I vote '''AGAINST''' all the rhyme. Seriously, you ever sit down and try to exract information from this page? Imagine you're someone who knows nothing of Wheelie. After reading this I guarantee you'll know even less. [[User: Eire]] 18.59 8 Feb 2010
:: Hey, were you the [http://tfwiki.net/w2/index.php?title=Tales_of_the_Fallen_issue_5&diff=414380&oldid=413827 guy who called a dude a schmuck for no real reason], and so then he [http://shortpacked.livejournal.com/593224.html?thread=14980936#t14980936 quit this wiki] because he was treated like shit? You don't get a vote. Especially since you think Florida and Cuba are separated by a friggin' river. (Anyway, I vote against rhyming in the Headmasters section.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)

:I vote '''against''' the rhyme, and note that when I first read this page, the break ''away'' from rhyming was hilarious... particularly because the text of the section was written in short, flat deliberately ''boring'' sentences to maximize the contrast. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 14:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::Yeah. I don't vote for the lack of rhyming in the Headmasters section for technicality reasons, but because it would be hilarious. Especially if it were written like a petulant little punk. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''AGAINST''' btw. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:09, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it''' as I think it'd disrupt the flow, if it was only randomly rhyming.'''--TFDatabase'''
::''Whatever'' policy we adopt, it's not going to be random. If it rhymes, it's for a reason. If it doesn't rhyme (especially in specific sections), it's also for a reason.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 15:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::But it LOOKS random (at least before you know why it was done). Also, it seems weird that TFDatabase gets jumped on for using the same wording Spengs did earlier.[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:10, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::::Just a fluke of timing. Nothing more. It's not like I'm constantly on the Wiki monitoring each and every comment that comes on.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 16:03, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' for the reasons already listed by so many others. Now, if you could find a way to do that section in haiku instead... [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:35, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::That idea is morbidly appealing. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 14:50, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:57, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I'm '''for it'''. As Detour mentioned, Japanese sentence structures don't allow much room for rhyming and the rhyming is unique to Wheelie (like how SG Nightbeat's page is done in Edward G. Robinson's gangster character fashion).
:(Haiku? Good grief...) --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 15:27, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::...so I have an evil sense of humor. You won't hold it against me, will you? --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 17:44, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:::Not really, but I can imagine the chore of parsing everything down to 5-7-5. Heck, [[Wikipedia:Waka (poetry)#Tanka|tanka]] might be a better option given its 5-7-5-7-7. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 19:07, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' the rhyming, for the reasons already given. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 15:41, 8 February 2010 (EST)
::'''As do I''', we have it noted that he didn't rhyme in other dubs anyway. [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 17:49, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''against''' rhyming in the Headmasters section. Having that section being assholey makes it even funnier, and Headmasters Wheelie is they guy who wouldn't go along with it simply to be a jerk. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 18:14, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:I vote '''for''' rhyming, as otherwise we should probably stick a disclaimer at the start of the Headmasters section because you know others will come along and make it rhyme again later anyway.--[[User:MCRG Again|MCRG Again]] 18:56, 8 February 2010 (EST)
:'''Against''' rhyming, because the Headmasters section should read like the dialog of the show: boring and stating the obvious, repeatedly. (I'd be for haiku form, though) -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 19:08, 8 February 2010 (EST)

Talk:Code of Hero

2010-01-09T22:05:57Z

Mazenoise:

''The mountain Rampage and Megatron partially detonate will have an important role in the finale of Season 2.''
That.... doesn't sound right. I thought the Disk Demonstration Mountain was just some arbitrary peak. And Mount St. Hilary has a distinctive band of green around it in "The Agenda". -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 05:49, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

:I don't think there were any fictional mountain ranges on the Voyager Disk anyway, so you're probably right. ;-) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 06:04, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

:Agreed. They are not the same mountain. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:24, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

==Transwarp cell explosion==

I was just wondering after rewatching the episode today...is the transwarp cell explosion mentioned in this episode supposed to be the explosion from the Planet Buster or the Metal Hunter? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 16:11, 9 January 2010 (EST)
:The footage of the explosion which Rhinox plays onscreen is from the Planet Buster explosion (the Metal Hunter explosion was all red). --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:32, 9 January 2010 (EST)
::Um...yeah! Guess I wasn't paying attention closely enough. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 17:05, 9 January 2010 (EST)

Talk:Code of Hero

2010-01-09T21:11:52Z

Mazenoise:

Talk:Dragoyell

2010-01-06T00:03:46Z

Mazenoise: /* Movie continuity...? */

"Actual name"? Isn't the only thing we've seen Hydra's translation? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 00:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:They say there's actual English on the card and it's "Dragoyell". There was no "n" in the name to start with, and they used "ē", not "ea", which they use for air. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 11:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Don't we usually include kana spellings of J-exclusive TF names anyway?--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 14:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, then there's a ''shitton'' more characters to do ('sides, it seems to only apply to characters whose original name is not clear; [[Longrack (BWN)|Longrack]] gets it, but [[Big Convoy]] doesn't). I don't really see the point when the name has a official Romanization that makes sense. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
::::It doesn't matter to me much either way; I just wanted to make sure we're being consistent. Dragoyell's name, despite having an official, sensible romanization, still looks a little awkward from a transliteration point of view. Probably best his name be restored, as Sipher has done, so people can see how we got from Point A to B on this one. (I'd recommend some mention of the official romanization, but since we can't and don't rely on those consistently (Minelba, etc.), that may not be worth it.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 21:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure what you mean by that last sentence. "Dragoyell" is the official Romanization, so we should note it as being such? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 22:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
::::::My point is that citing the official romanization as evidence to support our decision for using it would be inconsistent with cases like Minelba and Deathsaurus, so I'm uncertain if we should make note of it on the page.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 22:45, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

== Movie continuity...? ==

The back of Dragoyell's biocard has Optimus Primal chillin' with movie Optimus Prime. Is it possible Dragoyell's clutch of Minicon Maximals are specific tot he movie version of Beast Wars? And do we know anything about the FAB Movie/BW crossover story? Has it been translated? How logn was it? Text, images? (I think I've only read a 2 sentence summary that exists on this wiki somewhere.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:18, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

the translated bio card link just takes us to the allspark's front page. nothing about dragoyell at all. {{unsigned|95.148.8.3}}

:Yeah, I fixed it now, but thanks for the heads-up. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 19:03, 5 January 2010 (EST)

Dragoyell

2010-01-06T00:02:27Z

Mazenoise: Corrected link

{{factions|minicon|maximal}}
:''Dragoyell is a [[Maximal]]-allied [[Mini-Con]] from the [[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:Dragoyell.jpg|right|275px|thumb|She cried, "MORE MORE MORE!"]]
'''Dragoyell''' (ドラゴエール ''Doragoēru'') is almost never seen on the front lines. This "commando ninja" uses his mirror-like wings to confuse his enemies both while on recon missions and to strike while they're disoriented.

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:Dragoyell-b.jpg|right|180px|thumb|'''DRAGO!!!''']]
*'''Dragoyell''' (Micron, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''TM-PR''' ("TeleMaga Present")

: A [[redeco]] of the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Mini-Con [[Nightscream (Classics)|Nightscream]], Dragoyell transforms into robotic dragon. He is a mail-order [[exclusive]] from the September 2007 issue of ''[[TV Magazine]]'' (aka "TeleMaga") in Japan, limited to 2000 pieces.

: This mold was also used to make ''[[Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Brimstone (Universe)|Brimstone]].
{{--}}
==Notes==
* Dragoyell's instructions pretty unambiguously state he's a Maximal from ''Beast Wars''. However, his toy still bears the [[Autobot]] [[Insignia|faction symbol]]. Hm.

* Despite the bio's notation of "mirror wings", the toy's wings do not appear very mirror-like at all.

==External links==
*[http://www.allspark.com/content/view/2005/37/ Translation of Dragoyell's bio card]

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Beast Wars characters]]
[[Category:Japanese-original characters]]
[[Category:Mail order exclusives]]
[[Category:Maximals]]
[[Category:Mini-Cons]]
[[Category:Ninjas]]
[[Category:Toy-only characters]]

Talk:Energon Sword

2010-01-05T23:11:43Z

Mazenoise:

How does the name "Megatron's Sword" not make any sense if Megatron later wields it as his personal weapon? And it's very close to the Japanese name. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 13:55, 5 January 2010 (EST)
:It doesn't make any sense since Demolisher instantly recognizes it as "Megatron's sword", even though he never used such a weapon in the past. In Super Link it's explained that the sword is made from Megatron's spark, and that's what Demolisher recognizes. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 18:11, 5 January 2010 (EST)

Classic Transformers Volume 5

2009-12-16T15:16:03Z

Mazenoise:

{{comicnav|Classic Transformers|5|seriesname=''Classic Transformers''|prev=Classic Transformers Volume 4|next=Classic Transformers Volume 6
}}

Volume 5 of ''[[Classic Transformers]]'', to be released in February 2010 continues [[IDW Publishing]]'s reprint series of old issues of Marvel's original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|G1 comic]] in full-color trade paperback omnibuses. The volume will contain issues 62–74. It is unknown at this point whether issues featuring the trademarked character [[Circuit Breaker]] will be replaced with text summaries as in previous volumes.

ISBN 1600105688 / ISBN 978-1600105685
==Issue manifest==
===="[[Bird of Prey!]]"====
Original date: November 1989 
Story by: [[Simon Furman]] 
Pencils by: [[Geoff Senior]]

===="[[Kings of the Wild Frontier]]"====
Original date: December 1989 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: [[José Delbo]]

===="[[Deadly Obsession]]"====
Original date: January 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Dark Creation]]"====
Original date: February 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Geoff Senior

===="[[All Fall Down (issue)|All Fall Down]]"====
Original date: March 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Geoff Senior

===="[[Rhythms of Darkness!]]"====
Original date: April 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[The Human Factor!]]"====
Original date: May 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: [[Dwayne Turner]]

===="[[Eye of the Storm]]"====
Original date: June 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: [[Andrew Wildman]]

===="[[The Pri¢e of Life!]]"====
Original date: July 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

===="[[Surrender!]]"====
Original date: August 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

===="[[...All This and Civil War 2]]"====
Original date: September 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

===="[[Out of Time!]]"====
Original date: October 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

===="[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]"====
Original date: November 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

==Character profiles==
{{issuestub}}

[[Category:IDW titles]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]

File:G2DoubleTargetmasters.jpg

2009-12-07T00:31:03Z

Mazenoise:

[[Landfill (G1)|Landfill]], [[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]], [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]], [[Boomer]], [[Ricochet (Nebulan)|Ricochet]], [[Flintlock]], [[Silencer]], [[Holepunch (G1)|Holepunch]] and [[Tracer (Nebulan)|Tracer]] in their brief appearance in the ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' version of "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1]]".

{{screencap}}

Copyright Hasbro 1994.

[[category:Generation 1 screen captures]]

File talk:G2DoubleTargetmasters.jpg

2009-12-07T00:04:37Z

Mazenoise:

I...can't really tell, but are they wielding their Targetmaster partners in that screenshot? If so, it would also count as a cartoon appearance for the Targetmasters and we can include this in their fiction sections, too? --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 18:47, 6 December 2009 (EST)
: Looks like it to me, too. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 18:50, 6 December 2009 (EST)
:: After watching [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCfnJpHFRuc the commercial] where this originates from, yes, those are their Targetmaster partners. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 19:04, 6 December 2009 (EST)

Dickbot the blender guy

2009-12-06T22:32:04Z

Mazenoise:

{{noname}}
:''The blender is an [[Allspark Mutation]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Appliancebots2.jpg|thumb| 200px |Well at least I am not the [[Devastator (ROTF)|only robot]] that's nude.]]

The evil '''blender''' robot is basically sick, not the illness sick, the other kind of sick.

==Fiction==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
The blender robot was brought to life when [[Sam Witwicky]] dropped a piece of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]]. Along with his fellow [[Appliancebot]]s, he tried to attack Sam but was blasted by [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] for his troubles.
{{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
{{storylink|When Robots Attack!}}

==Notes==
* According to a special feature on the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' DVD, the blender robot was, at least in the concept stages, the "leader" of the appliancebots.

[[Category:Allspark Mutations]]
[[Category:Live-action-only characters]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]

Victory Leo

2009-12-03T15:27:34Z

Mazenoise:

{{factions|autobot}}

:''Victory Leo is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Victory (franchise)|Victory]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Victory leo.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[For safety reasons|He painted the ends of his guns orange to trick the Decepticons into thinking they're toys.]] Tricky, tricky, tricky...]]
'''Victory Leo''' is a wild and powerful Autobot warrior who works alongside [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]].

{{note|Exactly '''who''' Victory Leo is varies between continuities. See below for details.}}

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Victory'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Hiroshi Takemura]] (Japanese)

After the events of the [[Super-God Masterforce (franchise)|Masterforce war]] on Earth, the [[Transtector]] formerly bonded to the human [[Ginrai]]—now having taken its human partner's name as its own, becoming known as Ginrai itself—joined with the Autobot forces in space, where he became good friends with [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] and his adopted human son, [[Jean Minakaze]]. Before long, Star Saber was appointed Supreme Commander of the Autobots, while Ginrai became commander of the Defense Force for Space Sector Two. {{storylink|The Brave Hero of the Universe - Star Saber}} Operating out of a base in the G Nebula, Ginrai's time was occupied battling the Decepticon forces under Overlord's control, so much so that Star Saber occasionally had to respond to emergencies in Sector Two, such as a [[Breastforce]] attack on planet [[Micro]]. {{storylink|Planet Micro - The Mysterious Warrior}}

[[Image:Godginrai vs deathsaurus.jpg|thumb|left|180px|]]

Feeling guilty over taking up Star Saber's time in such a manner, Ginrai was quick to come to his aid when the newly reunited Breastforce [[combiner]] [[Liokaiser]] proved too much for Star Saber to handle, {{storylink|Unite! Liokaiser}}and also later when Star Saber was lured into a trap on Earth by Decepticon [[Emperor of Destruction]] [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]. Confronting Deathsaurus in battle, Ginrai was struck by a blast from the villain's Living-Metal-Destroying Cannon and badly damaged. {{storylink|A Deadly Battle}}

[[Image:Deadginrai.jpg|right|thumb|180px|]]

Despite the best medical efforts of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], and [[Minerva]], Ginrai's body was left useless and immobile. Due to a slip by Perceptor, however, he learned of the existence of a reconstruction process conceived by Star Saber that would allow him to become a power-up for the Autobot leader. Star Saber refused to allow him to submit to the process, revolted at the notion of using his close friend's body in such a way, but Ginrai insisted. Perceptor and Wheeljack brought his life functions to an end, and then restored him to Star Saber's specifications as '''Victory Leo'''. {{storylink|Ginrai Dies!!}}

An unfortunate side-effect of the process left Victory Leo's mind and body unbalanced; immediately after his transformation, he began to run wild in his lion mode, displaying a more wild, feral nature than God Ginrai ever had, leaving Jean dismayed at the apparent loss of the being he had considered his friend. {{storylink|Fight!! Victory Leo}} When Jean was trapped in a collapsed building as Victory Leo battled the Breastforce, however, his pleas for help reached Victory Leo, and some measure of balance returned to his mind, leading him to rescue Jean. {{storylink|Awaken! Victory Leo}}

When Deathsaurus threatened the Earth with orbital missile strikes if the Autobots interfered in the Decepticons' energy-gathering raids, Victory Leo had to be forcibly held back by the [[Brainmaster]]s to prevent him from attacking their enemies and dooming the planet. Star Saber came to the rescue with a new unification circuit implanted within his body. With this new component, he and Victory Leo could combine their bodies into Victory Saber. In the form of a combined jet, Victory Saber soared into space at a faster rate than Deathsaurus had predicted, and then in their combined robot form, destroyed the satellite controlling the missiles. {{storylink|The Tide is Turned! The Ultimate Weapon, the Victory Unification}}

Despite his proven battle prowess, Victory Leo was still not entirely the being Ginrai had been, retaining a more violent, short-tempered personality which sometimes brought him into conflict with the other Autobots, who, in turn, did not trust him as much as they had Ginrai. When Breastforce member [[Leozack]] impersonated Star Saber, Victory Leo realized that something was wrong, but none of his teammates believed him. Even when Victory Leo tried to stop Leozack from taking Victory Saber's combination information, the Autobots thought he was a traitor, until the real Star Saber showed up and Leozack was exposed, gaining Victory Leo his comrades' trust. {{storylink|A Mystery?! The Deception of the Base Bombs}}

When Deathsaurus finally succeeded in reactivating his colossal, planet-destroying battle fortress, Victory Leo and Star Saber combined into Victory Saber and took to space to try and stop the deadly craft, only to be knocked out by its weapons and crash, unconscious, on its surface. {{storylink|The Wrath of the Resurrected Giant Fortress!}} Recovering as it transformed into its "Destroyer Mode," Victory Saber attacked again but was confronted by Breastforce combiner Liokaiser. At the same time, Jean arrived in his mobile mech with information that could destroy the fortress, and Victory Saber separated so that Star Saber could follow him into the fortress. Victory Leo took on Liokaiser and defeated him by hurling him into the fortress's cannon barrel. Jean then succeeded in beginning the fortress's destruction, and Deszaras, defeated by Star Saber, set the craft on a collision course with Earth. Forming Victory Saber once again, the two heroes successfully destroyed the fortress and saved the planet. {{storylink|Showdown! The Fortress vs the Victory Unification}}

====''Robot Masters''====
=====Pack-in comic=====
=====Cartoon=====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Yūto Kazama]]
{{storylink|Fight! The Group of the Strongest Commanders!}}
{{storylink|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters (episode)|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters}}

=====Online comic=====
{{storylink|The Victory Warriors Enter!!}}

===''Victory'' comic===

When the father of [[Jean Minakaze|Jean]] and [[Patty Minakaze]], a famed mineralogist, discovered a powerful ore called [[gurunium]], the substance was used to build a new Autobot: Victory Leo. When Mr. Minakaze and his wife were killed in a Decepticon attack, Jean went to go live with [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] while Patty went with Victory Leo.

Some years later, as Star Saber fell to a combined attack from [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], [[Dinoking]] and [[Liokaiser]], Victory Leo at last arrived with Patty as reinforcements. His gurunium body allowed him to merge with Star Saber via the "Victory Combination", allowing the pair to become [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]]. {{storylink|The Strongest Partners, the Combination of Victory!}}

To combat the threat of Victory Saber, Deathsaurus forced the slaves of planet [[Guard]] to construct a mech unit for his son called [[Solon Kitakaze|King Solon]]. As Victory Saber arrived to free the people of Guard, Deathsaurus combined with King Solon to form [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|King Zaras]]. The two foes proved to be evenly matched, with their battle raging on for hours, until Solon was momentarily distracted by Patty. Victory Saber then bested King Zaras, destroying the King Solon mech unit. {{storylink|Mighty! Victory Saber}}

Soon afterward, Victory Saber, [[Laster]] and [[Braver]] found themselves in a losing battle against Deathsaurus and Liokaiser on [[Earth]]. Luckily, the [[Victories]] arrived (with newest member, Solon) and used their "Five Stars of Victory" attack to transfer their unique abilities into their corresponding Transformer. Patty transferred the power of her ''love'' into Victory Leo, giving him the boost Victory Saber needed to send the Decepticons packing back to their [[Planet-Destroying Fortress|Space Stronghold]]. {{storylink|Shine! The Five Stars of Victory}}

From the Space Stronghold, the Decepticons initiated their all-out attack on Earth. Victory Leo helped fend off the Decepticons as Star Saber took out Deathsaurus (well, really, [[Leozack]] did that) and the [[Breastforce]]. With the battle won, it was revealed that the Decepticons had been fighting for the survival of all the Decepticon civilians living within the Space Stronghold. From atop Victory Leo's shoulder, Patty invited all the Decepticon families to live in peace on [[Victory (planet)|Planet V]]. And so the war ended. {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}

==Toys==
===Victory===
*'''Victory Leo''' (1989)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-327'''

: Victory Leo transforms into a black, yellow and white winged lion robot. Both modes are dominated by the missile-firing V-Lock Rifle that rises from his back between his wings in alternate mode, or plugs into his hip in robot mode. The toy combines with Star Saber, sold separately, to become Victory Saber.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Cybertron/VictoryLeo/victoryleo.htm More information on Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

*'''Victory Saber''' (1989)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-328'''

: Victory Leo was also available in a gift set with Star Saber. Victory Leo can combine with Star Saber by plugging into the aft end of his flight mode, thus becoming a huge booster section, or by disassembling and connecting to Star Saber's robot mode. His legs and chest compress into a pair of "platform boots" that connect to the base of Star Saber's feet, while his other components form a winged backpack that aims his twin cannons over Star Saber's shoulders. In this mode, Victory Saber can also wield the V-Lock Rifle.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Cybertron/VictorySaber/victorysaber.htm More information on Victory Saber at TFU.info]''

===Robot Masters===
*'''Victory Leo''' (2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-16'''

:A smaller, simplified version of the Victory Leo toy, the ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' version of the figure arms Victory Leo with a new, yellow gun. It has stupid, floppy legs.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/VictoryLeo/victoryleo.htm More information on ''Robot Masters'' Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

*'''Victory Saber''' (2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-17'''

:Victory Leo was also available in a two-pack with the ''Robot Masters'' version of Star Saber, with whom he could still combine to form Victory Saber, in both jet and robot modes. The two figures in this pack featured a more metallic paint job than their standard releases.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/VictoryLeoRM17/victoryleo.htm More information on ''Robot Masters'' RM-17 Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

*'''Victory Saber''' (eHobby exclusive, 2005)

:An "evil recolor" of the Victory Saber two-pack complete with Decepticon symbols, this black, purple, teal and bronze redeco represents the two heroes in "optical camouflage" paint jobs for use on an undercover mission to investigate Decepticon dealings in the Middle East black market.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Destron/VictoryLeo/victoryleo.htm More information on black Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

===Mega SCF===
*'''Victory Leo'''

[[Image:Mega SCF Victory Leo.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"Why can't I transform?!"]]
:A non-transforming action figure of Victory Leo. He came with additional parts and could join with Mega SCF Star Saber to form Victory Saber.

==Notes==
* Victory Leo's "flight mode" as seen in the ''Victory'' cartoon (like [[Sixshot]]'s "Wingwolf" mode, [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]]'s "space jet" mode and [[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]]'s "Hydra" mode before it) is not part of the original toy's official instructions, as it was created by the production staff of the anime by fiddling around with it.
{{-}}

{{charstub}}
[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Non-Triple Changer third mode]]
[[Category:Robot Masters characters]]
[[Category:Victory characters]]

Victory Leo

2009-12-03T15:26:21Z

Mazenoise: Imported this from the Fight!! Victory Leo page

{{factions|autobot}}

:''Victory Leo is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Victory (franchise)|Victory]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Victory leo.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[For safety reasons|He painted the ends of his guns orange to trick the Decepticons into thinking they're toys.]] Tricky, tricky, tricky...]]
'''Victory Leo''' is a wild and powerful Autobot warrior who works alongside [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]].

{{note|Exactly '''who''' Victory Leo is varies between continuities. See below for details.}}

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Victory'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Hiroshi Takemura]] (Japanese)

After the events of the [[Super-God Masterforce (franchise)|Masterforce war]] on Earth, the [[Transtector]] formerly bonded to the human [[Ginrai]]—now having taken its human partner's name as its own, becoming known as Ginrai itself—joined with the Autobot forces in space, where he became good friends with [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] and his adopted human son, [[Jean Minakaze]]. Before long, Star Saber was appointed Supreme Commander of the Autobots, while Ginrai became commander of the Defense Force for Space Sector Two. {{storylink|The Brave Hero of the Universe - Star Saber}} Operating out of a base in the G Nebula, Ginrai's time was occupied battling the Decepticon forces under Overlord's control, so much so that Star Saber occasionally had to respond to emergencies in Sector Two, such as a [[Breastforce]] attack on planet [[Micro]]. {{storylink|Planet Micro - The Mysterious Warrior}}

[[Image:Godginrai vs deathsaurus.jpg|thumb|left|180px|]]

Feeling guilty over taking up Star Saber's time in such a manner, Ginrai was quick to come to his aid when the newly reunited Breastforce [[combiner]] [[Liokaiser]] proved too much for Star Saber to handle, {{storylink|Unite! Liokaiser}}and also later when Star Saber was lured into a trap on Earth by Decepticon [[Emperor of Destruction]] [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]]. Confronting Deathsaurus in battle, Ginrai was struck by a blast from the villain's Living-Metal-Destroying Cannon and badly damaged. {{storylink|A Deadly Battle}}

[[Image:Deadginrai.jpg|right|thumb|180px|]]

Despite the best medical efforts of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]], and [[Minerva]], Ginrai's body was left useless and immobile. Due to a slip by Perceptor, however, he learned of the existence of a reconstruction process conceived by Star Saber that would allow him to become a power-up for the Autobot leader. Star Saber refused to allow him to submit to the process, revolted at the notion of using his close friend's body in such a way, but Ginrai insisted. Perceptor and Wheeljack brought his life functions to an end, and then restored him to Star Saber's specifications as '''Victory Leo'''. {{storylink|Ginrai Dies!!}}

An unfortunate side-effect of the process left Victory Leo's mind and body unbalanced; immediately after his transformation, he began to run wild in his lion mode, displaying a more wild, feral nature than God Ginrai ever had, leaving Jean dismayed at the apparent loss of the being he had considered his friend. {{storylink|Fight!! Victory Leo}} When Jean was trapped in a collapsed building as Victory Leo battled the Breastforce, however, his pleas for help reached Victory Leo, and some measure of balance returned to his mind, leading him to rescue Jean. {{storylink|Awaken! Victory Leo}}

When Deathsaurus threatened the Earth with orbital missile strikes if the Autobots interfered in the Decepticons' energy-gathering raids, Victory Leo had to be forcibly held back by the [[Brainmaster]]s to prevent him from attacking their enemies and dooming the planet. Star Saber came to the rescue with a new unification circuit implanted within his body. With this new component, he and Victory Leo could combine their bodies into Victory Saber. In the form of a combined jet, Victory Saber soared into space at a faster rate than Deathsaurus had predicted, and then in their combined robot form, destroyed the satellite controlling the missiles. {{storylink|The Tide is Turned! The Ultimate Weapon, the Victory Unification}}

Despite his proven battle prowess, Victory Leo was still not entirely the being Ginrai had been, retaining a more violent, short-tempered personality which sometimes brought him into conflict with the other Autobots, who, in turn, did not trust him as much as they had Ginrai. When Breastforce member [[Leozack]] impersonated Star Saber, Victory Leo realized that something was wrong, but none of his teammates believed him. Even when Victory Leo tried to stop Leozack from taking Victory Saber's combination information, the Autobots thought he was a traitor, until the real Star Saber showed up and Leozack was exposed, gaining Victory Leo his comrades' trust. {{storylink|A Mystery?! The Deception of the Base Bombs}}

When Deathsaurus finally succeeded in reactivating his colossal, planet-destroying battle fortress, Victory Leo and Star Saber combined into Victory Saber and took to space to try and stop the deadly craft, only to be knocked out by its weapons and crash, unconscious, on its surface. {{storylink|The Wrath of the Resurrected Giant Fortress!}} Recovering as it transformed into its "Destroyer Mode," Victory Saber attacked again but was confronted by Breastforce combiner Liokaiser. At the same time, Jean arrived in his mobile mech with information that could destroy the fortress, and Victory Saber separated so that Star Saber could follow him into the fortress. Victory Leo took on Liokaiser and defeated him by hurling him into the fortress's cannon barrel. Jean then succeeded in beginning the fortress's destruction, and Deszaras, defeated by Star Saber, set the craft on a collision course with Earth. Forming Victory Saber once again, the two heroes successfully destroyed the fortress and saved the planet. {{storylink|Showdown! The Fortress vs the Victory Unification}}

====''Robot Masters''====
=====Pack-in comic=====
=====Cartoon=====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Yūto Kazama]]
{{storylink|Fight! The Group of the Strongest Commanders!}}
{{storylink|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters (episode)|The Lio Convoy Typhoon Enters}}

=====Online comic=====
{{storylink|The Victory Warriors Enter!!}}

===''Victory'' comic===

When the father of [[Jean Minakaze|Jean]] and [[Patty Minakaze]], a famed mineralogist, discovered a powerful ore called [[gurunium]], the substance was used to build a new Autobot: Victory Leo. When Mr. Minakaze and his wife were killed in a Decepticon attack, Jean went to go live with [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] while Patty went with Victory Leo.

Some years later, as Star Saber fell to a combined attack from [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]], [[Dinoking]] and [[Liokaiser]], Victory Leo at last arrived with Patty as reinforcements. His gurunium body allowed him to merge with Star Saber via the "Victory Combination", allowing the pair to become [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]]. {{storylink|The Strongest Partners, the Combination of Victory!}}

To combat the threat of Victory Saber, Deathsaurus forced the slaves of planet [[Guard]] to construct a mech unit for his son called [[Solon Kitakaze|King Solon]]. As Victory Saber arrived to free the people of Guard, Deathsaurus combined with King Solon to form [[Deathsaurus (Victory)|King Zaras]]. The two foes proved to be evenly matched, with their battle raging on for hours, until Solon was momentarily distracted by Patty. Victory Saber then bested King Zaras, destroying the King Solon mech unit. {{storylink|Mighty! Victory Saber}}

Soon afterward, Victory Saber, [[Laster]] and [[Braver]] found themselves in a losing battle against Deathsaurus and Liokaiser on [[Earth]]. Luckily, the [[Victories]] arrived (with newest member, Solon) and used their "Five Stars of Victory" attack to transfer their unique abilities into their corresponding Transformer. Patty transferred the power of her ''love'' into Victory Leo, giving him the boost Victory Saber needed to send the Decepticons packing back to their [[Planet-Destroying Fortress|Space Stronghold]]. {{storylink|Shine! The Five Stars of Victory}}

From the Space Stronghold, the Decepticons initiated their all-out attack on Earth. Victory Leo helped fend off the Decepticons as Star Saber took out Deathsaurus (well, really, [[Leozack]] did that) and the [[Breastforce]]. With the battle won, it was revealed that the Decepticons had been fighting for the survival of all the Decepticon civilians living within the Space Stronghold. From atop Victory Leo's shoulder, Patty invited all the Decepticon families to live in peace on [[Victory (planet)|Planet V]]. And so the war ended. {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}

==Toys==
===Victory===
*'''Victory Leo''' (1989)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-327'''

: Victory Leo transforms into a black, yellow and white winged lion robot. Both modes are dominated by the missile-firing V-Lock Rifle that rises from his back between his wings in alternate mode, or plugs into his hip in robot mode. The toy combines with Star Saber, sold separately, to become Victory Saber.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Cybertron/VictoryLeo/victoryleo.htm More information on Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

*'''Victory Saber''' (1989)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-328'''

: Victory Leo was also available in a gift set with Star Saber. Victory Leo can combine with Star Saber by plugging into the aft end of his flight mode, thus becoming a huge booster section, or by disassembling and connecting to Star Saber's robot mode. His legs and chest compress into a pair of "platform boots" that connect to the base of Star Saber's feet, while his other components form a winged backpack that aims his twin cannons over Star Saber's shoulders. In this mode, Victory Saber can also wield the V-Lock Rifle.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Cybertron/VictorySaber/victorysaber.htm More information on Victory Saber at TFU.info]''

===Robot Masters===
*'''Victory Leo''' (2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-16'''

:A smaller, simplified version of the Victory Leo toy, the ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' version of the figure arms Victory Leo with a new, yellow gun. It has stupid, floppy legs.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/VictoryLeo/victoryleo.htm More information on ''Robot Masters'' Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

*'''Victory Saber''' (2004)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RM-17'''

:Victory Leo was also available in a two-pack with the ''Robot Masters'' version of Star Saber, with whom he could still combine to form Victory Saber, in both jet and robot modes. The two figures in this pack featured a more metallic paint job than their standard releases.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Cybertron/VictoryLeoRM17/victoryleo.htm More information on ''Robot Masters'' RM-17 Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

*'''Victory Saber''' (eHobby exclusive, 2005)

:An "evil recolor" of the Victory Saber two-pack complete with Decepticon symbols, this black, purple, teal and bronze redeco represents the two heroes in "optical camouflage" paint jobs for use on an undercover mission to investigate Decepticon dealings in the Middle East black market.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Destron/VictoryLeo/victoryleo.htm More information on black Victory Leo at TFU.info]''

===Mega SCF===
*'''Victory Leo'''

[[Image:Mega SCF Victory Leo.jpg|right|150px|thumb|"Why can't I transform?!"]]
:A non-transforming action figure of Victory Leo. He came with additional parts and could join with Mega SCF Star Saber to form Victory Saber.

==Notes==
* Victory Leo's original toy's "flight mode" (like [[Sixshot]]'s "Wingwolf" mode, [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]]'s "space jet" mode and [[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]]'s "Hydra" mode before it) is not part of the toy's official instructions, as it was created by the production staff of the anime by fiddling around with it.
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Talk:Victory Leo

2009-12-03T15:24:12Z

Mazenoise:

AFAIK, even the original toy doesn't have the 'flight mode' presented in the anime. [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] 01:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:It does, they're in the instructions. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 01:37, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::[http://www.cobraislandtoys.com/tf/1989/victoryleoinstructions.jpg Doesn't look like it to me.] [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] 14:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::The 'flight mode' was another mode created for the Japanese G1 cartoons by the animators at Toei. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 10:24, 3 December 2009 (EST)

Soundwave (ROTF)

2009-12-01T15:20:40Z

Mazenoise: /* Notes */

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:''Soundwave is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:ROTF Soundwave sat.jpg|thumb|right|375px|Just wait till he [[Kiss Players|tentacle rapes]] that other satellite!]]

'''Soundwave''', the Decepticon communications officer and one of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron's]] staunchest supporters, doesn't just master the frequencies that carry information across our planet, he revels in them. Stationed high in the upper atmosphere and capable of processing millions of data streams at once, he is fully capable of taking over communications on a planetary scale. Whether he uses this to direct civilization or destroy it remains to be seen.

Soundwave has two extremely powerful weapons- His spread of Sonic Cannons... and Megatron. If any Decepticon crosses him, he does not hesitate to send a full record of said Decepticon's failures to Megatron, almost certainly ensuring an untimely demise. His lofty position has made [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] suspicious, so Soundwave has his minion [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] keep an eye on the [[Air Commander]] if he gets out of hand. Soundwave is also nearly defenseless in space, as his devastating Sonic Cannons only work within the atmosphere.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Soundwave Battle Bio]</ref>

{{quote|Decepticons: mobilize. It is time.|Soundwave gives the rally cry|[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}

== Fiction ==
=== Titan Magazines ''Transformers'' movie comics ===
[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] was in talks with Soundwave to get him to join in the attack on Earth and be in [[Michael Bay]]'s next documentary. Soundwave is known for talking in several frequencies at once, apparently just to be annoying. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 15|#15's Star Screams}} Starscream doesn't trust Soundwave but notes his intelligence, and so views him as a worthy successor in the event of his death. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 21|#21's Star Screams}}

=== IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics ===
[[Image:Defiance4Soundwave.jpg|thumb|left|100px|No full body shot in the movie or comics.]]
Soundwave was assigned by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] to take command of the newly built ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]'' with the sarcophagus containing [[The Fallen]]. Soundwave's task was to find a planet with a star [[Solar harvester|harvester]] that could be used to free their mysterious benefactor. Soundwave left [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] just before the outbreak of war. {{storylink|Defiance issue 4}}

[[Image:SoundwaveAllianceIssue2.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Alas, poor Dreadwing. I knew him, Ravage.]]

Presumed dead for years, Soundwave arrived on [[Mars (planet)|Mars]] one month after Megatron's death. He quickly took stock of the situation, scanning both [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing's]] remains, and an imprint of [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy's]] body. He contacted [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] after his battle with [[Wreckage (Movie)|Wreckage]], learning of the loss of Megatron and the All Spark, while informing Starscream that he had sent troops from his ship to Earth, with more waiting in stasis. As Starscream headed for the ship, Soundwave informed him he still had orders to follow. {{storylink|Alliance issue 2}} As more and more Decepticons made planetfall on Earth's surface, Soundwave assumed the form of a satellite and silently observed their operations from orbit. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}}

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===Titan Magazines ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
Soundwave appears unknown to the Autobots.{{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

He directed [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to [[Las Vegas]] to find some old car and cut it open to get its "memory tree". While he refused to explain things to Grindor, he referred to the car as "one of the lost", a redundant shell with ancient knowledge, and the "tree" appeared Cybertronian. [[Seeker (ROTF)|Hmmmm.]] When [[NEST]] showed up, Soundwave appeared contemptuous of them and their [[Human|whole species]], noting Transformers owned this world ''long'' before mankind. To Grindor, he simply said to get the "memory tree" to him and not get captured. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

[[Image:Titan4_Soundwaveinterrogate.jpg|left|thumb|200px|Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only... Oops, wrong movie.]]

Later, he directed [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] to find [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]], find out what they knew about [[the Fallen]]'s plans and who they'd told it to, and then terminate them. When Ravage had cornered Mudflap, Soundwave talked through him and attempted to interrogate the Autobot; this failed, with Mudflap not even being bothered about who Soundwave was. While the hit was a bust, Soundwave ensured the base was bugged and this meant he discovered [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]] distrusted the twins.

This was something Soundwave found interesting {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}} and he hatched a plan to ensure the twins were believed to be traitors: which would ensure nobody would follow up on their intell! Somehow, he got [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] to [[Diego Garcia]] at the same time the twins were there. He then had [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] get captured, so that when he was taken to [[Diego Garcia]] Scorponok would free him. With the Decepticon attacking at the same time the twins were distracting Optimus and on top of previous acts, they seemed guilty and were taken into custody. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}} [[Image:Titan6_SoundwaveIAm.jpg|right|thumb|250px|"[[Sanctuary|There you go]], fellas!"]] Soundwave sent [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] to blow up the soldiers escorting the twins to orbitary exile, and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] parachuted in to convince them to defect. When [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] tracked down the twins - who had kidnapped [[Sam Witwicky]] in a failed attempt to convince him to speak to Optimus on their behalf - Soundwave finally landed on Earth and blasted the scout. Soundwave told the twins The Fallen would offer them sanctuary, something Mudflap seemed to accept... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Frank Welker]] (English, Italian), [[Horst Lampe]] (German), [[Daisuke Gōri]] (Japanese)

[[Image:ROTF-Soundwaveface.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Next time, Gadget. Next time.]]
Soundwave received a transmission from [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]], who was tailing [[Mikaela Banes]], and instructed him to obtain a surviving shard of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]] in her possession. He found a satellite transmitting a conversation between [[NEST]] and the [[United States military]]. Tapping into it with his tentacles to listen, Soundwave overheard [[Theodore Galloway]] mention another shard of the All Spark in storage at [[Diego Garcia]], and of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s burial in the [[Laurentian Abyss]].

[[Image:ROTF Soundwave ejects Ravage.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Ravage: Eject. Operation: [[Ruined FOREVER|Childhood rape]].]]

Formulating a plan, Soundwave waited until it would be nightfall on Diego Garcia, then ejected [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] (who was equipped with [[Scalpel]] and the [[microcon]]s comprising [[Reedman]]) to Diego Garcia to steal the shard. Once they had stolen the shard, they reunited with some [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]] and managed to resurrect their leader.

Soundwave remained in space, tapping into the satellite he had found. When Megatron decided to reveal the Transformers presence on Earth after killing [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], Soundwave issued the mobilization order to the waiting troops on the ''[[Nemesis (ROTF)|Nemesis]]''. As the Decepticons streaked toward Earth, Soundwave tracked down [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky]] in [[France|Paris]]. He called Judy on her cellphone, demanding to know where Sam was, which the human dismissed as a crank call by a pervert. This allowed the Decepticons to track them down and capture them to use as bait for Sam.

[[Image:SoundwaveSatellite.jpg|thumb|300px|Yes, yes, you fans all thought about ''[[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]]'' when you saw me do this.]]

When the CIA discovered that Sam was in [[Egypt]], Soundwave relayed the information to the Decepticons. During the final battle in Giza, Soundwave blocked the NEST team's phone signals to General [[Morshower]] in an effort to block their back-up during the battle at the [[Egypt]]ian [[pyramid]]s. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}

{{note|In the comic, Megatron rendezvous with Soundwave after killing Optimus, making the demand for Sam Witwicky himself, which Soundwave broadcasts through the satellite he clutches. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation issue 2}}}}

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==Games==
===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Peter Jessop]] (English)

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
=====Autobot campaign=====

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=====Decepticon campaign=====

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==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===

====Legends Class toys====
*'''Soundwave''' (Legends, 2009?)
[[Image:ROTFLegends Soundwave.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:Soundwaverotfpreviewtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|War fork!]]
*'''Soundwave''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RD-04'''
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

:Part of the initial Movie Preview wave, Soundwave is a [[Triple Changer]], transforming into a satellite and a Cybertron jet, which are not exactly what could be described as "distinct" from one another. In all three modes, Soundwave features a spring-loaded missile launcher which fires a missile intended to resemble [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]], in reference to the scene in the film in which he launches the feline fiend down at Earth. In his (rather stocky) robot mode, Soundwave has blue light piping in his visor, but it is disabled, having been painted over in red; his other modes feature a second, armored version of his face, which is stored on the back of his robot mode. Probably to avoid giving the toy a very obviously two-headed robot mode, the alternate face lacks any paint details, and has an unpainted blue visor. Soundwave features numerous red and gold [[Paint operation|paint application]]s which are ''very'' cleverly and subtly positioned around his body to replicate similarly-colored and -positioned details on the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave toy]].

:The configuration for the satellite mode depicted in the toy's instructions is not the way Soundwave appears in the film, featuring a different angling for the panels on his shoulders. It's not a big change, but transforming the toy in accordance with his movie appearance ''does'' help to distinguish the jet from the satellite a little, since otherwise, virtually the only difference is in the positioning of the large panel "wings".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Soundwave/soundwave.htm More information on Soundwave at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:ROTFtoy-GatheringattheNemesis.jpg|right|thumb|300px|You can get him in blue, but you gotta get those other guys, too!]]
*'''Gathering at Nemesis''' (Toys "R" Us-exclusive box set, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile
: A three pack (technically four pack if you want to count Ravage), also featuring The Fallen, and a silver Voyager Class Megatron from the first movie toyline. Soundwave is [[redeco]]ed in predominantly blue as an homage to the [[Soundwave (G1)|original Soundwave]]. The Fallen was unchanged from his original release.

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*'''Soundwave Black Ver.'''{{fact}} (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

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*'''Battlefield Bumblebee Vs. Infiltrator Soundwave NEST set''' (Deluxe 2-pack, 2009)
**''Accessories:'' 1 Ravage missile

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==Merchandise==
===Burger King===
[[Image:ROTFMerchandise-BurgerKingSoundwave.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
*'''Seeking Soundwave''' (2009)
**'''Accessories:''' 2 blue solar panels
:The [[Burger King]] version of Soundwave is a representation of the communications satellite which Soundwave hacked into in the movie. The dishes have tendril details added to them. Peering into an opening in the top gives a sort of periscope effect, although as there is only one mirror, everything looks backwards.
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==Notes==
[[Image:EarlyMovieBlackout.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A Soundwave-headed Blackout from an animatic.]]
[[Image:Rotf-soundwave-face.jpg|thumb|right|200px|This [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|guy]] would love to tear this head off, wait.. you're sure this is Soundwave's real head?]]
* Soundwave was originally supposed to feature in [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'']]; he fulfilled both [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]'s roles, hacking into the CIA headquarters as a portable stereo, then [[size changing|morphed]] into a Humvee to track down [[Sam Witwicky]].<ref>Details from an early script draft [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2213120&postcount=297 summed up here], [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showpost.php?p=2214148&postcount=303 confirmed as authentic by Roberto Orci here].</ref> [[Michael Bay]]'s decision to minimalize the amount of morphing in the film resulted in a change to a helicopter who openly attacks the army. Soundwave and [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] were changed to [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]] and [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] as the film's location was changed from a jungle to a desert.<ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=234188&postcount=2008 Roberto Orci confirms that Ravage was replaced by Scorponok at the official movie boards]</ref><ref>[http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=234188&postcount=2008 Roberto Orci confirms that Ravage would have appeared in a different terrain at the official movie boards]
</ref> Soundwave's name remained attached to the separated portable stereo character for a while, but Hasbro felt the resulting character did not properly represent the original Soundwave—he was first renamed Soundbite, but eventually ended up with the name Frenzy.

*According to the trade paperback, Soundwave was a major character in the third draft of ''[[The Reign of Starscream]]''.

* In early drafts of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', Soundwave came to Earth and scanned a black Chevrolet Silverado pick-up truck form. Hasbro based the Cybertronian satellite form's robot mode on this abandoned concept, particularly a Cybertronian version of the Chevy grill and small headlights on the lower torso. [[Josh Nizzi]]'s heavily G1-esque head design was also used (although the final head design was also incorporated in a manner akin to anti-[[kibble]]). Hasbro's description and arrangement of Soundwave's toy as a triple changer runs counter to the filmmakers' intent to introduce the technology in the next film.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/transformers-movie-just-movie-31/transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-will-not-feature-triple-changers-165854/ News from TFW2005.com on September 23, 2008,] detailing [[Roberto Orci]]'s confirmation that there would be no triple-changers in ''Revenge of the Fallen''.</ref>

*Even though [[Frank Welker]] returned to voice Soundwave for the movie, his voice was not vocoded, but rather synthesized in the same way all the other Transformer voices in the movie were. Because of this, the voice he uses is much closer to that of "The Cave of Wonders" from [[Wikipedia:Aladdin (film)|Walt Disney's ''Aladdin'']] and Darkseid from The Super Powers Team: Galactic Guardians, both voiced by Welker. However, in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' video game, Soundwave's voice ([[Peter Jessop]]) is vocoded in a manner similar to that of ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' [[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]]'s first voice, only with a more musical tone.

*[[Frank Welker]] voiced Soundwave not only in the English version of ''Revenge of the Fallen'', but also in a large number of foreign dubs, including the Italian one. Welker described the process as "very hard".<ref name="welkernewsarama">[http://www.newsarama.com/tv/090915-Animated-Shorts-Welker.html Newsarama interview with Frank Welker], September 2009.</ref> Althouth Welker is also credited in the German dub of the movie, German dubbing insiders insist that the voice heard in the actual movie is by someone else (Horst Lampe, who also dubbed ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Animated]]'' [[Ratchet (Animated)|Ratchet]]), presumably as a last-minute decision because Welker's "German" performance was considered sub-standard.<ref name="germandub">[http://215072.homepagemodules.de/t511643f11775323-Transformers-Die-Rache-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen-7.html German dubbing board thread about ROTF, with a discussion about Soundwave's voice]</ref>. Welker is also credited in the Spanish dub (which character he voiced is not listed, but it was most likely Soundwave).

* Soundwave is unique among the Decepticons introduced in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' because he survives ([[Scalpel]]'s fate is ambiguous in the film itself but he was clearly scrapped in the [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|two]] [[Revenge of the Fallen issue 2|adaptations]]). All the others are presumably killed, meaning if all our information only came from the films, then the only Decepticons alive are the original triad of Megatron, Starscream and Soundwave, along with the oft-overlooked [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]].

* Soundwave was included as a downloadable addition to the roster of the Revenge of the Fallen Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 video game, along with several ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' homages and fellow movie character [[Sideswipe (ROTF)|Sideswipe]]. Soundwave's special abilities deploy an aerial jammer pod that looks suspiciously like [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], and an AOE pod that continuously smashes the ground with piledrivers; undoubtedly a nod to Generation 1 [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave's]] minion [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]. According to concept artist [[Ken Christiansen]], his appearance was based more closely on the Deluxe class toy than his movie design.

== References ==
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[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]
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Talk:Mudflap (ROTF)

2009-12-01T15:12:30Z

Mazenoise: /*Japanese EZ version error?*/ moved from Mudflap (Movie)

Okay, I apologize for starting to get a bit edit war about this. Some people consider the twins racist caricatures. Others disagree. I really don't think this wiki should be dismissive of either side of the argument. I think noting the controversy without comment is fine. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 08:57, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
:I agree. I'm not sure if I find the twins racist caricatures (caricatures for sure, racist not for sure), but I find the dismissive behaviour to the accusations disturbing. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 10:23, 30 June 2009 (EDT)
::I dunno, I remember the exact same accusations with Jazz back in '07. Because he talked all ghetto, everyone thought he was black. Or blacker. Or making fun of black(er) people. That was because back in '84, Jazz was all up on Rock, and back then, rock was "rotting our brains". They just gave him ghetto as an update. It's like the accusations of racism in RE5. Just because a white dude (with a body like a melon on a fridge) was shooting a bunch of black villagers (with the occasional other white guy) who were trying to bloody ''disembowel'' him, everyone was all "[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FantasticRacism Help us, Emperor Jesse Jackson!]"

Face it. Every time something "non-white" pops up, someone will get offended. Remember that South Park episode when they were doing the Christmas thing, and everyone was offended by one, little thing, and the play ended up in them just hopping around to Phillip Glass? What would you rather have? "Get'r Dun!"?[[Special:Contributions/24.89.74.34|24.89.74.34]] 14:05, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Sign your posts. Also, you seem not to have a very proper understanding of how racism works these days. It happens more subtle, in ways you can brush off as coincidence or that you can counter with various arguments. That is ignoring the trend beneath. For instance, I don't find RE5 rascist for the killing of infected people coinicidentally native to Africa, but I have a slight problem with the main roles given mostly to the non-black characters while the game is set in Africa. Only Sheva and her boss are black main characters, and Sheva seems to me as a compromise by being much lighter in colour and more shaped to Caucasian beauty standards.

:::Bay has the subtlety of a brick to the face, and I doubt he's capable of recognizing racism if it's not blatant (he's at least incapable of recognizing sexism). Not saying the twins are rascist stereotypes, but they very well could be, even if they aren't meant that way. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:13, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Well if you'd looked at the article, Reno Wilson was told the characters were meant to be "wannabe gangsters", so he and Tom Kenny voiced them as such. He, a black man, is surprised so many people are offended.--[[User:Detour|Detour]] 04:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Because blacks can't be rascist to blacks, or support rascist views from white people? That's a fallacy. I'd be surprised if most black people would find the twins offensive, but that doesn't mean an underlying wrong idea is not supported by carelessly accepting them. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 04:35, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Sorry, Geewunling, I tend to grossly oversimplify. You not finding RE5 non-offensive is exactly what I was talking about: Whenever something is question over racial protrayals [sic], it gets divided between "it's bad" and "It's not bad". You never really see the "not bad" side on the news, right? It's usually ten minutes of 'bad" with about forty-five seconds of "not bad". Let me clarify about Jazz, too. People found him offensive not because he was "black", but because he was the only Autobot to die, whereas the others survived, but were admittadly badly hurt. But I concede, because you're a better writer than I am.[[Special:Contributions/24.89.74.34|24.89.74.34]] 14:05, 4 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::I think people found Jazz offensive ONLY because of his ONE LINE "what's crackin' little bitches?" and instantly label him as "black", and THEN get offended that he later dies. I realy don't get how people can think that giant fictional robots from space can be rasist.(granted, skids and mudflap were overdoing it, but people would be less ofended if they were humans AND black)--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 14:18, 4 July 2009 (EDT)

== Twins article, + stereotyping again ==

1) Is there justification for an article at "Twins" or "The Twins" or "The twins", considering how much the phrase is explicitly used by the characters themselves and in numerous ancillary materials? I'm thinking it might be very short, maybe even no fiction section at all.

2) I'm more and more convinced that the twins are meant to be rural hicks trying to talk ghetto-speak while not having a clue about it. Is it worth noting this somewhere, since a lot of offended viewers seem to be completely missing this point, or is it too much of an opinion, or is it ''still'' OMG OFFENSIVE STEREOTYPE in some way that I'm totally missing? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 11:24, 20 July 2009 (EDT)
:I'm sure I read somewhere that Bay himself stated that they where supposed to be a parody of white kids trying to be black. I too am for that "The Twins" article. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:31, 20 July 2009 (EDT)
::I don't think the material is robust enough to support a multi-layered "supposed to be one group pretending to be another" interpretation. They could be supposed to be Haida Indians acting all ghetto, but with utterly no hint at all about the Haida while all we see and hear front and center is the ghetto. How is that any different from them just being ghetto? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:40, 20 July 2009 (EDT)
:::I get "inbred hick" from their faces. Their hideous, malformed, asymetrical, bug-eyed, buck-toothed faces. *shudder* -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 15:05, 20 July 2009 (EDT)

:There is a [[twin]] article that is meant to document what it means to be a Transformer twin. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:43, 20 July 2009 (EDT)
::That's fine for the generic term, but "the twins" seems to be bandied about a LOT in specific reference to these two, in a way that hasn't been done for any other pair of TFs. (also, I totally failed to find that article, despite suspecting that it existed. We needa "twins" redirect.) -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 12:34, 20 July 2009 (EDT)

:Look at their goddamn vehicle modes. Can you see the Crips or Bloods ridin' dirty in ''those'' things? That's fucking ''white'', man. It's practically translucent. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 11:59, 20 July 2009 (EDT)
:::The same thing could be said about the Pontiac Solstice, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:45, 20 July 2009 (EDT)
::#Mention that multiple viewers took exception to the precieved portrayal.
::#Find a cits for Bay or Orci intendign them to be wiggas.
::#Point out that in the novelization (and presumably the early script) Skids was intended to have a lisp and not be a banger-- which really helped the duo 'read' as a white boy wannabees. This seems to have drifted in successive revisions so they're both wigga wannabees (Skids is just ''bad'' at it,)-- which opened the opportunity for confusion.
::Acknowledge the issue. Provide counter-statements. Show how the intention, the execution and the perception are 3 sides of the same coin and '''put the matter to rest.''' -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:42, 20 July 2009 (EDT)

:::*[http://tformers.com/transformers-/11886/news.html Bay talks about how the twins vague characterization was originally vague and evolved during script recordings.]
:::* [http://tformers.com/transformers-/11986/news.html Orci + Kurtzman note that they were surprised how much Skids, specifically, changed from their script to the final film.]
:::*Skids VA is white.
:::So blah blah blah... what I said above. They were supposed to be a ''contrasting'' pair, the voice actors were encouraged to ad-lib, and that... just got changed. The result '''is''' a bit unfortunate (to the point that the scriptwriters admit that it made them uncomfortable) but it wasn't part of a ''conscious decision'' at any point along the way... just dogpile revisions. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:49, 20 July 2009 (EDT)

I think what the articles say right now about the controversy is pretty much fine, without much need for change, and certainly shouldn't be changed to any way lecture genuinely offended viewers about they're "missing the point." --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:03, 20 July 2009 (EDT)
:And, I might add, I think a lot of those offended aren't "missing the point" that the Twins are supposed to "white" guys acting in a manner stereotypically associated with black people, thus the comparisons to blackface and minstrel shows. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:11, 20 July 2009 (EDT)

==Ice Cream Truck Scale==
So there's a bit of a big gay revert war on about the relative size of the ice cream truck. I say we hold off on any explicit statements about the scale until the DVD drops, at which point we can actually use, you know, screencaps and references and shit. Unless, of course, someone knows exactly what model truck it's based on (looks like a 1930s U.S.-made pickup or delivery truck), and then we can conclusively say something. Personally, I think it's a non-issue and the truck is full-sized, because the idea of standing up to sell ice cream out of the back of a goddamned subcompact is ludicrous, but then again, there IS a process for this sort of thing. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 13:19, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

Video link for you to prove (or disprove) the issue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoIllegalCamVidsAllowed. It just looks small to me. [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 16:47, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
: What does it MATTER what scale it is? We have a [[scale]] article for this sort of thing. Keep this irrelevant, non-noteable nonsense out of the toy section. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:51, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
::This is all also ignoring that the Twins themselves are SMALL robots. They only look to be maybe 8 to 9 feet in robot mode. Bumblebee can (and does) pick each one up with one arm and sling them around off their feet with ease. Given the amount of mass that must spontaneously generate from nowhere in order for a fully-functional Topkick or Camaro to turn into hugeass robots like Ironhide and Bumblebee, the idea that two comparative midgets will cram themselves into a smallish van is far from the worst physics issue in the movie series. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:14, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
:I don't suppose [http://conceptartworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ben_procter_rotf_04.jpg this concept art] by [[Ben Procter]] helps in any way, does it? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 18:44, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

And where exactly did the twins find and scan a 1930's delivery-turned ice cream van in the first place? [[Special:Contributions/142.240.200.10|142.240.200.10]] 18:49, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
:Maybe their previous Decepticon hunt was at a car museum. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:11, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
:Considering that in [[Alliance (comic)|Alliance]], they arrived on Earth in a scrapyard, their beat up old ice cream truck alt mode makes vastly more sense than Sideswipe and Arcee's top of the line models. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 22:37, 23 September 2009 (EDT)
:If the Titan series is any indication, they don't. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:21, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

So now that the DVD has "dropped"... what's the final decision? [[User:Crow T. Robot|Crow T. Robot]] 15:06, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

==Readin'==
Hm. It occurs to me. It's only said, by them, "We ain't much for readin'". Not "we can't read". The existence of the "Suck My Popsicle" sticker would indicate SOME level of literacy, since that clearly wouldn't be on the original vehicle. Also... why would the cyberglyphs or whatever engraved on the twins be counter to their reading ability in any way? Does everyone who gets a Japanese/Chinese character tattoo read those languages? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 12:49, 24 September 2009 (EDT)

== Japanese EZ version error? ==

Just noticed the pic of the 'Lawson exclusive' EZ figure.

Apparently the version of EZ Mudflap released in the 2-pack with Bumblebee was actually the standard US version, and the Takara-Tomy picture was incorrect. Unless anyone has an official source (in-hand pictures, on-line sales listings etc) that says the Japanese version of the Legends figure is any different from the US colours, I'd recommend deleting this photo.
[[Special:Contributions/213.123.203.109|213.123.203.109]] 09:01, 1 December 2009 (EST)

Talk:Mudflap (Movie)

2009-12-01T15:12:24Z

Mazenoise: I'm gonna assume this was supposed to be at Mudflap (ROTF)

Let's be sure to keep the robot mode and vehicle mode pictures separate, please? Since we're probably NEVER going to get actual art of these guys, I'd like to have the robot mode pics be the "main" images. (I may have to do a run of fixes on a lot of these pages... in May.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
: Done. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:28, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
::Personally, I'd like to see some boxart portrait images for the main pictures of some (all?) of these guys. They're going to have thr toy images in their toy sections anyway, and there isn't particularly a place for their headshots elsewhere on the page...and this isn't exactly art that's been getting a lot of coverage on the Internet in general. -[[User:LV|LV]] 03:41, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
:::My problem with that is they're just headshots. I really prefer to use as full-body an image as possible for a "main" one if there's one available. I mean, they're really nice art, but... (I can certainly put one or two in searchboxes.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:18, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
::::But there are no full-body shots, and the toy images are gonna be on the page anyway. It seems we're just excluding information because of a rule that doesn't make sense in this case. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 04:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
:::::I concur. I just applied this treatment to [[Big Daddy (Movie)|Big Daddy's page]], and I think it not only works, but is preferable. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 06:24, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Air Commander

2009-12-01T15:09:42Z

Mazenoise: /* Movie Starscream? */ new section

''Because of the number of Seekers in the Decepticon ranks, this allowed him to become Megatron's second-in-command'' - What is this basis of this statement? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 05:13, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
*I remember hearing that somewhere, but since I can't remember where, I'll remove it. Sorry. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 05:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

This article serves no purpose. The only thing that could possibly be written in it is "Starscream was air commander". It should be deleted. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 05:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
*All right, go ahead. I thought more could be added. Just trying to contribute. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 05:46, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
*Actually, before you delete this, just answer this: is it any less notable [[Duty Sergeant|than]] [[Prime of Justice|these]]? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 16:37, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
**The Duty Commander is our only designation for a specific character. Prime of Justice at least applies to multiple characters, though a case could be made for recuding it to a category rather than a full article. I'm not aware of a... actually, crap, Timelines has given Thundercracker the function of Air Commander too, hasn't it? That might give it some credence, though we know basically nothing about what the job means. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 17:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::Air Commander is also Injector's function, so that'd make at least three uses of the rank. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 17:13, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

With only one holder of the title I would have said delete, but now that we have three unrelaited Air Commanders I definately think it should stay.--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 18:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

:Wan't there at least one Aerospace commander? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
::Starscream, at least once. [[User:Chip|Chip]] 01:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Starscream? ==

I've seen several pages refer to him as "Air Commander", but was he ever said to be one anywhere? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 10:09, 1 December 2009 (EST)

Air Commander

2009-12-01T15:08:07Z

Mazenoise:

:''Air Commander is a rank in the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]]''

The '''Air Commander''' serves as the leader of the fliers of a [[Transformer]] military.

==Decepticon Air Commanders==
* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] (''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|G1]]'')
* [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|G1]]'') {{note| According to [http://www.tfu.info/1985/Decepticon/Blitzwing/blitzwing.htm G1 Blitzwing's Tech Spec], he's both a Ground Commander and an Air Commander, though this is actually a typographical error corrected later in other merchandise as "Ground and Air Commando".}}
* [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]''/''[[Timelines (franchise)|Timelines]]'')

==Predacon Air Commanders==
* [[Injector]] (''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|BW]]'')
* [[Starscream (BWII)|Starscream]] (''[[Beast Wars II (franchise)|BWII]]'')

[[Category:Beast Wars]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]
[[Category:Ranks]]

Jolt (ROTF)

2009-11-30T15:18:30Z

Mazenoise: /* Notes */

{{factions|autobot|NEST}}
{{disambig3|Jolt}}
:''Jolt is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Tf2009 joltsurgery callout.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Zandar? Do you remember anybody by that name?]]

'''Jolt''' has a tendency towards mischief making. Like any prankster, he's pretty impulsive, and if trouble rears its head, you can bet Jolt is going to try to be in the middle of it. (Though he more often ends behind it, mostly out of focus, as luck would turn out.) Luckily, he's got the fighting ability to make sure his head stays on his shoulders, utilizing electric whips in battle.

==Fiction==
===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
[[Image:Jolt-ROTFalltiedup.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"There I am! Behind those guys!"]]
When the Autobots mobilized in response to a sudden surge in [[Decepticon]] activity, Jolt rolled into action at the head of the pack, but he was not among the Autobot team who fended off [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] after the two Decepticons killed [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] in a forest brawl. Jolt reunited with the other Autobots before they headed back to the [[NEST]] base on [[Diego Garcia]], but the team was scarcely given any time to mourn Prime's passing; as soon as they returned, they were accosted by military forces under the command of [[Theodore Galloway]]. The emotionally brittle Autobots did not take this show of force well, and charged their weapons; Jolt began emitting bright sparks of electricity in anticipation of a fight, but things soon calmed down as Galloway announced that NEST was being disbanded by [[President of the United States|presidential]] order.

[[Image:Jolt-ROTFcombiningPrimeandJetfire.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"By your powers combined, I am... well, I'm nobody, actually."]]

Jolt later accompanied the Autobots and their human allies to [[Egypt]], for a climactic battle against [[The Fallen]]'s [[Decepticon]]s. During the course of the battle, [[Sam Witwicky]] used the [[Matrix of Leadership]] to bring Optimus Prime back to life, at which point the aged [[Jetfire (ROTF)|Jetfire]] volunteered to sacrifice himself, so that Optimus could use his parts to give himself a power boost. Following Ratchet's directions, Jolt used his electric whips to link Prime up with Jetfire's remains, generating an electromagnetic field that levitated and bonded the necessary parts to Prime's body, giving him a powerful new flight-capable form which he then used to destroy The Fallen. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)}}

{{Note|Jolt was not among the lineup of "new arrivals" that Galloway initially complains about. He simply shows up in a scene halfway through the film, with no real explanation.}}
{{-}}

==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====Legends class toys====
[[Image:ROTFtoy-JoltLegends.jpg|right|thumb|300px|A toy proportionate to my screentime!]]
*'''Jolt''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:''

{{comingsoontoy}}
{{-}}

====Deluxe class toys====
[[Image:ROTF_Deluxe_Jolt_toy.jpg|thumb|300px|[[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] would approve of this alt-mode.]]
*'''Jolt''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-19'''
:Deluxe class Jolt transforms into a blue Chevrolet Volt with translucent blue plastic windows. His alt-mode is very conspicuously split where his arms and legs separate during transformation. In robot mode, he has light blue "electro whips" in each arm which are deployed by turning a small knob on his wrist. His head features blue [[Light-piping|light-piping]] for his eyes, but there is a gray protrusion behind his head which completely prevents light passage. This protrusion also prevents his ball-jointed head from turning other than in the slightest of angles. Turning his waist activates his [[Mech Alive]] feature, which consists of moving gears inside his translucent upper chest (it is really hard to see). Jolt also has swiveling knees, but sadly, the kibble blocks it off just like the head.

:Sadly, out of the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toys released as of late summer 2009, Jolt has lost the most paint applications of anyone, losing nearly all blue paint detailing on his chest and all red detailing present in the promotional photos. This leaves his robot mode looking rather plain.

:The picture to the right shows Jolt's feet mistransformed - at least according to the instructions, which show that the two halves of his alt mode's back bumper forming his toes should be turned inward 90 degrees. Which depiction is the actual mistransformation is debatable, as the "official" transformation makes the left toe piece stand a couple millimeters higher than the right one due to the presence of a joining peg.
{{-}}

====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:JoltFAB.jpg|right|300px|thumb|A [[Volt]] named [[Jolt (G2)|Jolt]]—two [[Laser Rod]]s in one!]]
*'''Electro Whip Jolt''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)

:Electro Whip Jolt transforms into a slightly squashed [[Wikipedia:Chevrolet Volt|Chevrolet Volt]] with an unfortunate transformation parts separation line going right across his windshield. Jolt's robot mode transformation is reminiscent of Transformers car toys from previous generations, where the sides of the car are his arms and the rear his feet. Jolt's arms each contain a spring loaded "electro whip" that shoots out of them when a blue tab is depressed. Moving either of his arms up, then releasing it will cause it to swing back down, simulating a whipping motion.

{{-}}

*'''Spark Blast Jolt''' (Fast Action battler, 2010)
[[Image:ROTFtoy-JoltSparkBlast.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Now with more toys than appearances in the film!]]
: Spark Blast Jolt is a [[redeco]] of Electro Whip Jolt in mostly white with blue electricity deco on his doors.
{{comingsoontoy}}
{{-}}

==Merchandise==
===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robotheroesjoltravage.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Oh, like anybody bought this set for Jolt.]]
*'''Jolt and Ravage''' (2009)
:''[[Robot Heroes]]'' Jolt is part of the second ''Revenge of the Fallen'' wave. He has articulation at the shoulders and neck, and comes packaged versus [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]].
{{-}}

===RPMs—Robot Powered Machines===
====Speed Series====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RPM_Jolt.jpg|thumb|300px|After being ran over, Jolt now hates hybrids.]]
*'''Jolt''' (2009)
*''Number:'' 3

:As a [[Robot Powered Machines|Mini-Vehicle]], Jolt is a non-transformable, ''Hot Wheels''-scale Chevrolet Volt. His robot mode is sculpted surging with electricity on the car's underside, alongside his name and an Autobot insignia.

{{-}}

==Notes==
[[Image:ROTF Jolt vehicle mode.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Kicking Decepticon Skid Plate and environmentally friendly!]]

*Jolt was a last-minute addition to the film during the four-month rush to get a script done after the Writers Guild strike. The writers had to convince Bay that Jolt would feel like a true member of the main Autobot roster. <ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-movie-discussion/180451-welcome-mr-roberto-orci-you-may-ask-him-questions-190.html#post3231606 Roberto Orci discusses Jolt's inclusion in the film]. </ref> Ultimately, this wasn't what you could call a success: Jolt only appeared in robot mode in three scenes of the movie, and the character has no lines whatsoever. He even abruptly disappears from the Autobot vehicle mode group shot where he appears for the first time. Jolt ''does'' get a name shout-out, which is something, at least, but that doesn't change the fact that he was so disposable to the plot that he didn't appear in any of the tie-in comics, books or video games.

[[Image:Joltconcept.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Jolt wants a CGI photo.]]

*Concept art and an image of Jolt's [[Industrial Light & Magic]] CG model (seen from an awkward angle on a computer screen) were depicted on the [[Revenge of the Fallen DVD field guide|''Revenge of the Fallen'' 2-Disc DVD and Blu-Ray]] special features.

*Although Jolt never speaks in the movie, Variety had reported, and it was believed for awhile, that [[Anthony Anderson]] was to voice the late-joining Autobot.<ref>http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117940483.html?categoryid=31&cs=1</ref>

*One of the Volt vehicles used as Jolt in the movie is on display at the [[wikipedia:Test_Track|Test Track]] attraction at [[wikipedia:Epcot|Epcot]].

==Footnotes==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:NEST]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]

Cell phone

2009-11-28T15:09:34Z

Mazenoise: /* Trivia */

{{noname}}
:''The cell phone is an [[Allspark Mutation]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

{{faceless}}

The '''cell phone''' likes to ring. A lot. Which isn't wise around mischievous, homicidal robots.

==Fiction==
=== Revenge of the Fallen novel===
Much like most other appliances in the kitchen, the cell phone was brought to life when Sam's Allspark shard fell into the kitchen. Its first act of life was to ring incessantly, which prompted the nearby [[Microwave bot|microwave robot]] to put him in his chest and fry him. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (novel)}}

== Trivia ==
*In the movie itself, a cell phone ''is'' right next to the microwave. Hmmm...
*Likewise, the Microwave bot's concept art shows a cell phone in his chest...
*Special features on the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' DVD show a concept version of the kitchen scene, which includes the cell phone bot and the microwave bot destroying him.

[[Category:Allspark Mutations]]
[[Category:Prose-only characters]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]

User talk:Freddo2

2009-11-28T11:22:07Z

Mazenoise:

Hi, Hasbro has yet to publicly unveil the Leader class Starscream toy, and thus the pics at Seibertron (and anywhere else) are from illegally-obtained Leader Starscream toys. We abide by Hasbro's wishes and will not comment upon leaked toys or form the basis of article information on leaked toys (unless the toys turn out to never be released). Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:17, 28 November 2009 (EST)

Yeah, please don't change our captions unless you've significantly contributed to the wiki, and your jokes are somewhat cohesive with the tone of this place. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 05:42, 28 November 2009 (EST)

{{captionbastard}} -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 06:22, 28 November 2009 (EST)

Sideswipe (Movie)

2009-11-28T11:21:27Z

Mazenoise: Revert

{{factions|autobot|NEST}}
{{disambig3|Sideswipe}}
:''Sideswipe is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Revenge of the Fallen Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|Also known as ''"Stabby McWheelfeet"''.]]

'''Sideswipe''' is true to his function of Warrior. Unlike most Autobots, Sideswipe—part of a younger generation built during wartime—was made to fight. He was born during the war and with full knowledge of the Cybertronian battlefield, designed solely for killing. He's master of the quick-change transformation! <ref>''[[Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Sideswipe's Titan profile]]''</ref> Before he enlisted with the Autobots, Sideswipe traveled the galaxy in search of the most proficient warriors and devastating martial arts he could find, leading to him becoming an Autobot combat instructor<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Sideswipe Battle Bio]</ref>. Though proficient with guns, he prefers melee combat to ranged weapons, and will employ any maneuver it takes to get close enough to the enemy to use his arm-mounted [[Cybertanium]] swords. His agile, wheel-legged form more than allows for this. His tactics are merciless and he's utterly unapologetic about this—war, after all, is ''messy''.
''

Oh, and he's also not vain at ''all'': those alt modes of his are chosen for speed only. It's a ''total coincidence'' that the fastest one just ''happens'' to be a sleek, sexy, concept model that's better than ''your'' car, honest! <ref>[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|Transformers: The Movie Universe]]</ref>

{{quote2|Damn, I'm good.|Sideswipe|[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}

{{quote2|I am a warrior. I bleed conflict.|Sideswipe|[[Tales of the Fallen issue 2]]}}

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
{{ongoing}}
When Sideswipe joined the Autobots he trained under the veteran warrior [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], learning the arts of war. After his training was complete, he went on to become the protector of a settlement of displaced Autobots. This settlement was found by the pitiless [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], who slaughtered them nearly to a bot. Sideswipe was ashamed, not only over having failed to protect his charges, but also because he had lived to tell the tale.{{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 2}}

After [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]'s Autobots left [[Mission City]], they left a homing beacon in a junk yard near the metropolis to attract any Autobots who might have heard Prime's rallying call to [[Earth]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 3}} Sideswipe was among those few that answered the beacon and had hidden themselves in the junk yard. Once discovered, they were brought to [[Diego Garcia]] to train with the other Autobots and [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]]'s soldiers in defense of their new home. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}} However, Sideswipe proved a loose cannon as he continued his vendetta against Demolishor when the Decepticon turned up in [[Montevideo]], [[Uruguay]]. Showing little regard for humans in pursuing his quarry, Sideswipe's actions prompted Ironhide to arrive on the scene to rein him in. The younger Autobot was openly insubordinate towards Ironhide, warning him not to get in the way. Ultimately all the old veteran could do was to serve as damage control during Sideswipe's singleminded pursuit. Ultimately more reinforcements from [[NEST]] arrived, and Demolishor fled the scene. In the aftermath, Sideswipe saw the fear and mistrust the humans regarded him with because of his violent actions. Understanding this, he was forced to admit that Ironhide's admonishment of him was correct. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 2}}

Sideswipe didn't have long to wait for another shot at his nemesis. Soon enough, Demolishor had been sighted in [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4}}

===Titan Magazines ROTF comic===

{{bigquote|''Skids? Mudflap? Hhh.'' What have I ever done to deserve ''this''?|Sideswipe on his training position, [[Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune]]}}

[[Image:Titan4_Sideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|250px|]]

Sideswipe served as a combat instructor at NEST's Scottish base, and had to put [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] back through basic training—something he was fed up of. As far as he was concerned, they should've been put on charge for causing [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to escape and he should have better things to do. He dealt with this by putting the twins through simulated combat after simulated combat, finally cracking it up to maximum setting, before [[Ravage (ROTF)|someone knocked him out]].

When he came to, the twins were babbling about how a mysterious and long-vanished Decepticon working for [[Soundwave (ROTF)|another mysterious Decepticon]] had done it and tried to kill them! Sideswipe was having none of it, viewing this as implausible and believing the twins knocked him out in revenge for training and were covering themselves. Between this and Grindor, he was becoming suspicious of them... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

Following the training, poor Sideswipe took them to [[Diego Garcia]] and continued to be pestered by them for a meeting with Prime. Not trusting them and ignoring their babble about some "[[the Fallen|dude]]", he tried to discourage them, only for the two to sneak off behind his back. Sighing, he went in pursuit... and saw them distract Prime before a [[Scorponok (Movie)|Decepticon attacked]],
Skids tripped over Prime before he could take charge, and Mudflap handed a weapon to [[Sideways (ROTF)|an escaping prisoner]]! When Optimus remarked that someone must've compromised security, Sideswipe fingered the twins: their actions clearly showed they were turncoats! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}

{{-}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
:''Voice actor:'' [[André Sogliuzzo]] (English) [[Akio Ohtsuka]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Sideswipe-ROTFdamnImgood.jpg|left|thumb|300px|Damn, he's good... at killing [[Sideways (ROTF)|fleeing cowards]].]]

Sideswipe was one of the Autobots sent to [[Shanghai]] when Decepticon energy signatures were detected, but he was initially held in reserve. As [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] managed to flee from [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] and [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Twins]] in vehicle mode, [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]] ordered Sideswipe deployed. Sideswipe immediately sped in and quickly changed to robot mode. Catching up with Sideways by dexterously skating on his wheel-feet, Sideswipe somersaulted over the Decepticon, threw his right blade in the Decepticon's hood, and then dragged the blade in the opposite direction, tearing Sideways apart. Sideswipe took a moment to reflect on the success of his kill.

Afterwards, he returned with the other Autobots to [[NEST]]'s base in Diego Garcia, where he witnessed Director [[Theodore Galloway]] air the [[Barack Obama|President's]] concerns over the recent spate of Decepticon activity, and how the Autobots remaining on Earth might be the cause of it.

After the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark shard]] was stolen by [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] from NEST's secured bunker and Decepticons were detected heading towards [[Sam Witwicky]] at [[Princeton University]], Sideswipe and the other Autobots were deployed to intercept, but arrived too late: [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] had died protecting the human boy from the resurrected [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]].

[[Image:ROTF Sideswipe in Egypt.jpg|thumb|right|300px|The "Where's Sideswipe?" series of books never really caught on.]]
The Autobots and NEST arrived at a [[United States of America|United States]] air base to discover that they were no longer welcome, following renewed Decepticon aggression after Prime's death, and that they were ordered to return to Diego Garcia. The emotionally overwhelmed Autobots nearly came to blows with their former allies but finally agreed to stand down and remain on Earth. When Major Lennox learned Witwicky had come up with a way to possibly resurrect Optimus Prime, NEST travelled to [[Egypt]] instead. Sideswipe, who had been covered in a cargo net while being transported in vehicle mode, relished the chance to cut through his bonds when deployed from the air. He fought off many Decepticons in Egypt, and bore witness to Sam resurrecting Optimus Prime with the [[Matrix of Leadership]], and the death of [[The Fallen]]. {{storylink|Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Nolan North]] (English)

====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====
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==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====Legends Class toys====
[[Image:Sideswipe ROTF Legends toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hey! I have real feet now!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-06'''

: [[Legends Class]] Sideswipe transforms into a tiny Corvette Stingray concept car. As a Legends toy, he features a simplified transformation sequence that results in swords that consist entirely out of door [[kibble]] and a lack of his trademark wheel-feet.

:This toy was [[redeco]]ed into ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/LegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:ROTF_TheFuryofFearswoop.jpg|thumb|300px|]]
*'''The Fury of Fearswoop''' (Figure multi-pack, 2009)

:A "battle damaged" deco version of Legends Sideswipe was available in the [[Walmart]]-exclusive "The Fury of Fearswoop" 3-pack together with a similarly "battle damaged" version of Legends [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and Deluxe class [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]], a ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' [[Hooligan (G2)|Hooligan]]-themed redeco of [[Movie (toyline)|the 2007 ''Transformers'' movie toyline's]] [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]].
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[[Image:ROTF-toy_Legends_BluesteelSideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]
*'''Bluesteel Sideswipe''' (Legends, 2010)

:"Bluesteel" Sideswipe is a metallic blue redeco of Legends Sideswipe, also featuring some minor detail changes.

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[Image:ROTFSideswipe 2009 Deluxe.jpg|right|300px|thumb|His heroes are [[Tigatron]] and [[wikipedia:Edward Scissorhands|Edward Scissorhands]].]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-04'''

:Sideswipe transforms into a silver Corvette Stingray concept car. In this mode, he sits so low that it's difficult to roll him without scraping his undercarriage, unless you perform some careful shaping after transforming him (a trait shared by some other live-action movie Deluxe cars, such as [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys|Bumblebee]] and [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]). He has the Corvette twin flag logo sculpted on both the front of the vehicle mode and on the robot mode sternum, although neither is actually painted. Sideswipe's [[Mech Alive]] gimmick is in his knees—bending his legs causes the blue armor plates on his knees to extend. He does have wheels in his feet like his character model, but the toy's feet have been designed in such a way that it can stand alone. The bonnet halves that become Sideswipe's kibble-backpack are highly posable due to the way the hinges work and can be reshaped in several ways, including wrap-around chest armor and bat-like wings. Rounding out his robot-mode awesomeness, his hips have an "invisible joint" and moving pistons, while his "blades" are geared to spin out in unison. He is ''totally awesome''.

:Sideswipe's instructions aren't clear as to how his torso is supposed to connect with his chest in robot mode. The torso piece has a square peg on top of it and there is a corresponding square hole between the two screws holding the front of his chest together. Getting his torso section in front of his arm struts can be a somewhat snug fit. Despite this, the chest peg does have a habit of popping loose while posing the upper body, but can easily be fixed with a thin piece of card.

:Some people might notice that his heels can be turned but his "toe" piece can not. It is advised that you do not try.

:He has blue [[light-piping]] for his eyes, but it's ineffective due to backpack kibble blocking the light. Turning his head sideways makes it easier to see.

:This mold was [[retool]]ed into ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Sideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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[[Image:ROTF_Deluxe_StrikeMissionSideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|"Well basically, I just copied the Sideswipe we have now. And this racing stripe here I feel is pretty sharp."]]
*'''Strike Mission Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2010)

:This redeco of Sideswipe features red translucent windows, a large black racing stripe running down the center of the car and fading black stripes on the doors. Like many Autobots in the NEST Global Alliance ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline refresh, he features a version of the NEST logo [[tampograph]]ed on him.
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====Human Alliance====
[[Image:ROTF_HumanAlliance_Sideswipe_Epps.jpg|thumb|300px|Training with Sergeant Epps really beefed him up!]]
*'''Sideswipe / Tech. Sergeant Epps''' (Human Alliance, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-22'''
**''Accessories:''

:Like all [[Human Alliance]] figures, Sideswipe is designed to allow his accompanying human figure, in this case [[Robert Epps]], to ride inside. While in many ways simply a larger version of the Deluxe toy, it has several changes. The wheeled feet now fold out into a stand system, allowing Sideswipe to stand without having to balance on the wheels, and his scissors are now rubberized to prevent injury. The scissor-hands can also be slotted into a gear system connected to the front wheels which cause them to spin as the wheels are turned. Although easy to miss, Sideswipe has more than one place to seat Epps in robot mode, as both seats and both forearms provide Human Alliance human figures a place to stand or sit. The passenger's seat transforms into a missile launcher slung over Sideswipe's other shoulder. Like the Deluxe figure, the HA Sideswipe is something of a [[shellformer]] and suffers from an excessive amount of kibble, as nearly the entire top of the vehicle mode is folded up into a backpack, with only the rear bumper being incorporated as Sideswipe's chest. Unmentioned in the instructions, there is a fold-out handle under the swiveling roof section that lines up over Epps' head when seated behind Sideswipe's shoulder, implying that the tailpipes might actually be considered another cannon or scope. This possibly explains why said tailpipes are transparent.

:Surprisingly, Sideswipe has a battle mask! Or rather, his normal head IS his battle mask, and one can lift the top portion of his forehead to reveal a thin sliver of his "real" face. It looks...odd. It's probably best to leave the thing down and never speak of this feature.

====Fast Action Battlers====
[[Image:Sideswipe ROTF FAB toy.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Has anyone seen my proportions?]]
*'''Battle Blade Sideswipe''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)

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*'''Night Blades Sideswipe''' (Fast Action Battler, 2010)
[[Image:ROTF-toy_FAB_NightBladesSideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

: This [[redeco]] of Battle Blade Sideswipe colors his car mode dark gray and light green. His robot-mode bits remain silver.

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====Battle Chargers====
[[Image:ROTFSideswipe BattleChargers 2009.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Not [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]]]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Battle Charger, 2009)

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====Gravity Bots====
[[Image:Sideswipe Gravity Bot.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Before he joined the army, Sideswipe was picked on a lot for his "mass problem".]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''GB-04'''

: As a [[Gravity Bot]], Sideswipe uses gravity-activated [[autotransformation]] to turn into a [[super deformed]] Corvette Stingray when laid on his back. When the car is stood back up, it transforms back into its boxy robot mode. The toy features no [[articulation]].

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====Robot Replicas====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RobotReplicas_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Robot Replicas, 2009)
:Robot Replicas Sideswipe is a non- transforming, but highly detailed and articulated interpretation of his robot mode from the movie. He features highly posable legs, arms, feet, head, waist, neck and shoulders, making him both an awesome kid's toy and display piece.
:Funnily enough, despite the Robot Replica promise of total movie-accuracy, his arm-blades are [[For safety reasons|considerably shortened]] and are a weird metallic blue colour, rather than the silver/gray you might expect.

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====Power Bots====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_PowerBots_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Crikey!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Power Bots, 2009)

: [[Power Bots]] Sideswipe is a bulky, non-transforming toy for younger children. He features limited articulation in his limbs and head, two very blunt swords, and various playing sound clips and flashing lights. He has an North Americanised [[Australia]]n accent!

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==Merchandise==
====RPMs—Robot Powered Machines====
=====Speed Series=====
[[Image:ROTF-toy_RPM_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2009)
*''Number:'' 4

:''[[Robot Powered Machines]]'' Sideswipe is a small, non-transforming car with his robot mode sculpted underneath. Said robot mode has his swords colored red, for some reason.

:Although a stolen [[prototype]] that surfaced in 2008 was pretty accurate to the Corvette Stingray car from the movie, the actual RPM Sideswipe toy has been severely altered and looks more like an Aston Martin. Unfortunately, Mattel was able to secure exclusive rights for releasing a Concept Stingray model car at a 1:64 scale for their ''Hot Wheels'' line (the toy was recently released as part of the "2010 New Models" lineup).

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===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robotheroessideswipesideways.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Still needs training wheels.]]
*'''Sideswipe and Sideways''' (2009)
: Sideswipe is part of the first wave of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' figures and is packaged versus [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. He has rotational articulation at both shoulders, but his head is molded into his torso. In order to stand up, the figurine must rest its weight on one of his arms.
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[[Image:Robotheroestwinswidewaysprimedemolishorsideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|300px|"Damn, I'm cute."]]
*'''Shanghai Shootout''' (Multi-pack, 2009)
:Shanghai Shootout replicates the opening action scene from ''Revenge of the Fallen'', featuring figurines of [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]/[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] (ice cream truck), [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] (vehicle mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], and Sideswipe (vehicle mode). Demolishor is a slightly-oversized figure and the centerpiece of the box set.
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==Trivia==
[[Image:ROTF Sideswipe concept art.jpeg|thumb|right|300px|There was a time he would have had feet.]]
* On June 11, 2008, blurry camera phone photos from the set of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' offered the first look at Sideswipe's vehicle mode, which was believed to be a 2009 Chevrolet Corvette XR1 at that time.<ref name="fairmont">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-concept-car-at-fairmont-park-base.html Blurry set photos from Fairmont Park]</ref> Ten days later, leaked photos offered a better look at the car being painted by Saleen, which was now revealed to be a never-seen-before Corvette model.<ref name="corvettesaleen">[http://jalopnik.com/396734/transformers-corvette-concept-z28-bumblebee-get-a-close+up Photo of the Corvette being painted by Saleen at Jalopnik]</ref> On August 7, 2008, Jalopnik claimed having received information that the car was a so-called "Corvette Centennial Concept".<ref name"centennial">[http://jalopnik.com/5034285/exclusive-the-transformers-mystery-car-is-the-corvette-centennial-design-concept Jalopnik's story on the "Corvette Centennial Concept"]</ref> [[General Motors]] finally admitted the car's existence at the Chicago Auto Show in February of 2009, now confirming that it was, in fact, a new Corvette Stingray concept.

* Rumored names for Sideswipe in the early days of the movie shooting were "Hot Rod"<ref name="upclose">[http://jalopnik.com/398892/up+close-photos-of-mystery-corvette-concept-from-new-transformers-movie More shots of the Corvette at Jalopnik], July 2009</ref> (which might have been a case of fans simply suggesting a random name and other fans subsequently treating it as gospel) and "Stinger". The latter originated with a (real) call sheet leaked in June 2008, which suggests that "Stinger" was an actual working name.<ref name="bethcall">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/bethlehem-call-sheet-cast-tf-and-next.html Leaked call sheet at the Transformers Live Action Movie Blog], July 2008</ref>

* Thanks to that whole [[General Motors]] bankruptcy thing, Sideswipe may be the closest we'll ever get to seeing a ''real'' Stingray.

* Sideswipe was recently announced as a new downloadable character for the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 versions of Revenge of the Fallen, alongside [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]. He is the only downloadable character with a G1 homage skin, which makes him twice as awesome.

* Sideswipe's Cybertronian mode was revealed in [[Tales of the Fallen]], as well as the fact he arrived on Earth in November 2008.

==References==
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[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:NEST]]
[[Category:Martial artists]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen characters]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]

Blackarachnia (BW)

2009-11-23T15:04:29Z

Mazenoise:

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{{disambig3|Blackarachnia}}
:''Blackarachnia is a [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]], [[Maximal]], a [[Minion of Unicron]], and a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Beast Era]] portion of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]. She's a busy girl, huh?''

[[Image:Blackarachniabw.jpg|right|240px|thumb|Hot, poisonous, and deadly. Rawr!]]
A sultry femme fatale, '''Blackarachnia''' is smart, sexy, and dangerous. She's got eight legs, and she knows how to use them. Of the several rebellious Predacons under [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]'s command, she's one of the very few who can, on occasion, outguile him. Always looking out for Number One, Blackarachnia values her independence and freedom above all else. She would rather be deactivated than be a slave.

Blackarachnia's greatest weakness, other than her overconfidence, is her feelings for the Maximal [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]. Something about his heroic demeanor and the kindness he shows her makes her uneasy. She hasn't experienced unconditional love before, and it scares her, though she'll never admit it.

{{quote|Even when I'm good, I'm still bad.|Blackarachnia|"[[Crossing the Rubicon]]"}}

:''Japanese name:'' '''Blackwidow'''
:''French-Canadian name (original toy):'' '''Mygale'''
:''French-Canadian name (cartoon):'' '''La Veuve Noire''' (The Black Widow")<ref name=TM2BA>Whether Transmetal II Blackarachnia had different French and Spanish names is uncertain at this point.</ref>
:''Chinese name (Taiwan):'' '''Hēi Jr-jū''' (黑蜘蛛, "Black Spider") / '''Jr-jū''' (蜘蛛, "Spider", used in ''Beast Machines'' sometimes)
:''Cantonese name:'' '''Alaina''' (雅麗娜 ''Aa Lai Naa'')
:''Polish name:'' '''Arachna'''
:''Portuguese name:'' '''Aracniana'''
:''Brazilian name (Beast Wars only):'' '''Viúva Negra'''
:''Spanish name'': '''Araña Negra''' ("Black Spider")<ref name=TM2BA/>

==Fiction==
===First wave toy bios===
Working by moonlight, Blackarachnia poses as a double agent. In reality, this is merely a ruse she utilizes in order to lure unwitting Maximals into her darkened den, where she first paralyzes her victim with a poisonous missile. She then proceeds to restrain her victim with her powerful legs, and subsequently sucks their life force dry... kinky. She is capable of converting thermal energy into [[cyber venom]]. {{storylink|Blackarachnia (BW)#Toys|Blackarachnia bio}}
{{note|This comic, along with the on-package [[Bio|bios]] of the first wave of Beast Wars toys, predate the development of the ''Beast Wars'' cartoon and its backstory. They seem to present the characters as a direct continuation of the previous Autobot/Decepticon conflict, with Optimus Primal actually being a new form of Optimus Prime and Megatron being his Generation 1 counterpart, and their battles taking place on present day, [[human]]-inhabited Earth, rather than in the distant past. Once the cartoon launched, the toyline adjusted itself to match that continuity instead, relegating this one to an aborted [[micro-continuity]].}}
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Venus Terzo]] (English), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japanese), [[Fátima Noya]] (Portuguese)

[[Image:BAintroduction.jpg|left|250px|thumb|My face is up here!]]
Blackarachnia was born from one of the [[Maximal|Maximals']] fallen [[stasis pod]]s. [[Tarantulas]], watching a black widow fight and devour another spider, was inspired. [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], observing the slim and attractive Blackarachnia transform and strike a few poses, suggested that he had "ulterior motives behind her beast form selection." But, she was a Predacon, and that was what was important. In the battle with the Maximals that followed, she easily defeated [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] with a few well-placed kicks. She was later reported as "missing," though the reasons why and how were never addressed. {{storylink|Double Jeopardy}}

Blackarachnia made herself renowned among the ranks of both the Maximals and Predacons as a severe headache to Megatron. When Tarantulas found out about the [[Vok]], he tried to craft a stasis pod escape ship for himself, and she was there to forge a partnership {{storylink|Spider's Game}}. When [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] and Blackarachnia journeyed to a mysterious, floating island containing immense power, she was there to shove him out of the way and take control of the island herself, only to be defeated by [[Tigatron]] {{storylink|The Trigger, Part 1}}. When [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] took control of [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]'s body, she was right next to him when he betrayed Megatron, betraying Starscream ''back'' {{storylink|Possession}}. When she aided Tarantulas in breaking into the ''Axalon'' to acquire a stasis pod for conversion into an escape ship, she took over after a following Inferno incapacitated Tarantulas, intending to take the ship for herself. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 1}} Unfortunately for her, this deception backfired on her in the form of a forced mind link between her and Tarantulas, which remained until she forced the spider into breaking it. {{storylink|Tangled Web}} When Tarantulas forced her to investigate Megatron's [[Golden Disk (Voyager)|Golden]] [[Golden Disk (Vok)|Disk]] backups, she waited until Tarantulas was occupied to download and encrypt the recoverable information. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}}

[[Image:Blackarachnia A shame.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Hiya, hot stuff.]]
When the Vok were moments away from returning, Tarantulas and Blackarachnia both again teamed up in an attempt to flee the dying planet. Megatron, already aware of their next move, used their deceptive tendencies against them and acted unaware of their treachery. As they built their escape ship, he installed his own variant on the design, making it inescapable once sealed and in space. Though it did not destroy either of them, the result was even better: [[Optimus Primal]] wound up in the pod and was destroyed instead. {{storylink|Other Voices, Part 2}} Blackarachnia's wits saved her, as she convinced Megatron that he would need soldiers, which gave him reason to spare her life. She also, much to her disgust, ended up with a telepathic link to Tarantulas which allowed him control of her body. {{storylink|Aftermath}}

Forced by Tarantulas to hack into Megatron's private files and Golden Disk back-ups for him, she discovered that it contained the access codes for the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]. Taking advantage of his temporary deactivation, she downloaded a copy, destroyed the files and told Megatron [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] destroyed them, while telling Tarantulas a different story, that Megatron had booby-trapped them. {{storylink|Coming of the Fuzors (Part 2)}} Neither of them (apparently) believed her, but neither showed this openly ''yet''... Meanwhile, Blackarachnia forced Tarantulas to end their psychic link by threatening to kill herself and take his mind with her. She also had Silverbolt refuse to fight her because she was female (to the annoyance of Rattrap). {{storylink|Tangled Web}}

[[Image:Blackarachnia fightback.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Spousal abuse!]]
When an energon blast sent her and Silverbolt into the middle of the dense jungles, they were forced to work together. Though attracted to the [[Fuzor]], Blackarachnia was endlessly frustrated by his seemingly idiotic chivalry and need to treat her specially. Megatron, listening in to their commlink chatter, was disgusted by the obvious romance going on. Blackarachnia rather liked the treatment and affection, though she held it under a firm charade of bitter irritation. {{storylink|Bad Spark}}

When the Predacons attacked the valley of proto-humans, Blackarachnia was teamed with Inferno. She did considerable damage to Dinobot before being blasted herself. {{storylink|Code of Hero}}

After confirming the location of the Ark, Megatron sent Waspinator to its location. Realizing what this meant, Blackarachnia abandoned her post and followed him. Silverbolt followed ''her'' and stubbornly refused to leave her alone. Exhausted and in a hurry, she conceded and told him to dig. The two broke through the mountainside and Blackarachnia had a good cackle over the Ark's power being "all mine!"... just as Megatron arrived. Having always intended for her to reach the Ark as he knew she had the access codes, he threatened to vape Silverbolt unless she did what he said. Bitterly, she agreed to his demands.

[[Image:BA Silverbolt Agenda3.jpg|right|180px|thumb|I can walk, you know.]]
Blackarachnia used the Ark's security system to cover Megatron's back, not sure of what he was planning. Once he fired upon [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], history began to change, wiping out all Maximals... {{storylink|The Agenda (Part III)}}which included herself. Not willing to die for Megatron, she activated [[Teletraan I (G1)|Teletraan I's]] security nets to force Megatron off the ship. With Silverbolt's help, she got the dying Autobot leader under life support and began the repairs. The Maximals, recognizing what she had done, reluctantly allowed her to join their ranks after an irate Megatron gave her the boot (in the form of nearly killing her). {{storylink|Optimal Situation}} (Quite what ''she'd'' intended to do with the Ark — since she couldn't have altered the timeline without risking erasing herself — was never explored.)

Blackarachnia quickly showed her usefulness to the Maximals, building a hand-powered [[subaquatic stealth vessel]] that could retrieve Sentinel from the ''Axalon'''s underwater resting place. Rattrap was less than thrilled about having to use the "Predacon beach ball". {{storylink|Changing of the Guard}}

She was even less thrilled when she ended up having to escort two human children back to their tribe along with Cheetor, who was exhibiting a boyish crush on her, much to Silverbolt's annoyance. Rattrap was also rather distrusting of her, as earlier he had spied Blackarachnia sneaking some parts from a classified area. But when Megatron's new [[cyber raptor]]s attacked, Blackarachnia showed her good side by defending the children, even taking a hit from Tarantulas for them, which she immediately denied to an impressed Silverbolt by saying she slipped. With the cyber raptors defeated, she informed Cheetor that he was a nice kid - which were two strikes against him, so don't go looking for strike three. {{storylink|Cutting Edge}}

However, tensions began to run high later. After Rhinox scanned her and found the shell program that made her a Predacon, Blackarachnia finally got fed up with Rattrap's attitude and Cheetor's crush, and would have choked/blasted them both if Optimus hadn't intervened. Weary that apparently she hadn't proven herself to the Maximals and thinking that Optimus and Rhinox were planning to force her to remove the shell, Blackarachnia decided to split... which turned out to be a bad decision, as [[Dinobot II]] had been waiting for this moment. Taking turns hunting each other, Blackarachnia got the upper hand but was caught off-guard by Dinobot's power and durability. Fleeing to a mesa, she was found by Silverbolt, who got in a fight with Dinobot and was about to be slagged. Blackarachnia shot him out of the way, then tried to make a deal with Dinobot to take over the Ark and the Predacons, which backfired and allowed Dinobot to stun her, but he was distracted by Silverbolt long enough for the two Maximals to finally defeat him. However, Silverbolt accused Blackarachnia of betraying the Maximals, which angered Blackarachnia who explained she shot him to get him out of Dinobot's grasp and distract him, and countered with Optimus' supposed forcing of her to become a Maximal. But they worked everything out at the end (after a headbutt to Silverbolt also dropped her. He ''does'' have a thick skull). {{storylink|Proving Grounds}}

[[Image:TM2 Blackarachnia.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Calendar Bot]]
Later, Blackarachnia took the [[Transmetal driver]] and attempted to use it on herself. Silverbolt, not realizing what she was planning, bailed her out of the contraption. Like every good girlfriend, she began to chew him out, but was cut off as an energy surge made her lose control of her circuits. A security system Tarantulas installed had been triggered by her tampering with her core, and the only way to fix it was to cut the Predacon [[shell program]] loose. Reluctantly, she agreed. An attack on the Maximal base disrupted the attempt, and she was deactivated.

Distraught, Silverbolt took off to avenge her death. He easily subdued Tarantulas and was moments away from executing him when [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] attacked him. Blackarachnia appeared in the nick of time with her new and improved Transmetal 2 body, easily fought off Rampage and rescued Silverbolt. {{storylink|Crossing the Rubicon}}

Later, during Megatron's final assault on the Ark, Blackarachnia "emasculated" Rattrap's tail in an effort to reactivate the Ark. Seriously. {{storylink|Nemesis Part 2}}
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{{note|This game takes place in an alternate version of the second season of the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]] cartoon.}}
{{note|In the the N64 version of ''Beast Wars: Transmetals'', Blackarachnia was a stretched [[palette swap|palette-swap]] of [[Tarantulas|Transmetal Tarantulas]]. As you can see, this didn't work very well. But it was a nice thought.}}
[[Image:N64Blackarachnia.jpg|left|200px|thumb|I'm... sure she has a nice personality... wait, no. No, she doesn't.]]
:''Voice actor:'' ? (English), ? (Japanese)

Transmetal Blackarachnia joins her fellow Predacons in distributing various one-on-one beat downs to the Maximals. Eventually, Silverbolt convinces her to defect to the Maximals but she never truly reforms. It is her betrayal at a key moment that eventually assures the Maximals victory in the Beast Wars. Once back on Cybertron, she works as a double-agent between the Maximal and [[Tripredacus Council]] with no loyalty to either side. She often ponders what would have happened if she had remained on the Predacon's team throughout the war. {{storylink|Transformers Beast Wars: Transmetals|Beast Wars: Transmetals}}
{{note|Each character possessed an alternate ending, displayed if the N64 version of the game was beaten with said character. Each character has only their own ending listed on their pages, see the other characters' pages for Blackarachnia’s fate in those outcomes.}}
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====IDW ''Beast Wars'' comics====
[[Image:TMblackarachnia.jpg|left|200px|thumb|No boobs? No thanks.]]
While the Maximals attempted to remove her Predacon shell program, an alternate Transmetal "Vok" body was somehow automatically created (by someone, somehow) in [[subspace]] just in case it was needed. It wasn't, and so it was "sidelined". {{storylink|Beast Wars Sourcebook}}

{{note|This is [[IDW Publishing|IDW's]] way of "sorta" working her [[McDonald's]] Happy Meal premium toy (see below) into continuity}}
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====''Tales of the Beast Wars''====
Blackarachnia made a brief appearance in her Transmetal 2 form at [[Reaching the Omega Point|Omega Point]], being eviscerated by [[Shokaract]]'s firepower. Clearly, she got better as space/time rebooted itself with the destruction of the [[Unicron|Dark Essence]]. {{storylink|Terminus}}
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====Transformers Legends Anthology====
{{Charstubfiction}}
{{storylink|A Meeting of Minds}}
{{note|Transformers Legends were meant to be "imaginary stories," and not to be taken as canon. Whether or not these story are to be taken as having happened is up to one's [[personal canon]].}}
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====''Binaltech'' (unused)====
As the victorious Maximals travelled forward in time from prehistoric Earth to far-future Cybertron, their shuttle was suddenly struck by a powerful force of darkness. Hurled into the early 21st century, Blackarachnia was forced by Unicron to aid him in his efforts to destroy the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. Her spark was placed inside the silver Beta Unit Honda S-2000 Aero Style body intended for the Autobot warrior [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]], and her mind was overwhelmed by an evil essence that forced her to do Unicron's bidding.

Still possessing her extrasensory Transmetal 2 powers including telekinesis, Blackarachnia gained several additional weapons courtesy of her new form: a long-range Venom Sniper Gun that fired system-disrupting energy bullets, a defensive riot shield that projected an electromagnetic field from its edge, and the ability to fire strong artificial webs from her grill, exhaust pipe and hands in robot mode.

Blackarachnia was partnered with the newly-created [[Decepticharge]] and dispatched to confront [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave's]] forces on Earth. Finding them in the middle of a [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]-led uprising, the pair put down the rebellion and ordered the Decepticons to defeat [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] and destroy the Matrix.

While forced to act as a Decepticon, Blackarachnia's true self remained intact but submerged, struggling to overcome Unicron's control and desperate to correct the warped [[Alternators|Binaltech]] timeline.

[[Blackarachnia (BW)|''Maybe.'']]

====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Venus Terzo]] (English), [[Ryōka Yuzuki]] (Japanese), [[Márcia Moreli]] (Portuguese)

[[Image:Thereformattingmaximalsmaximize.jpg|left|300px|thumb|When they say she's all legs, they ain't kidding!]]
When the Autobot shuttle crashed on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and the Maximal team was gassed, Blackarachnia's Transmetal 2 powers were stripped away from her, as were her memories. As such, the amnesiac Maximal decided to head underground, distraught and confused. Locked out of her robot mode, she awaited her imminent deactivation — until the other three survivors: an equally disoriented [[Optimus Primal]], [[Rattrap]] and [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]—plunged into her web. Primal made the decision to head underground, and Blackarachnia complied, using her webs to grant them safe passage. However, in her weakened state her webbing was limited, and so the foursome plummeted most of the way down into the chamber of the [[Vector Sigma|Oracle]]. She watched as Optimus emerged in his [[technorganic]] form, and was the fourth and last Maximal to be [[Reformatting|reformatted]], emerging as a pink black widow spider with green markings. When attacked by a squadron of Cycle Drones, she put her technorganic mode to good use, trapping one of the [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]] in a tangle of web. {{storylink|The Reformatting}}

[[Image:Blackarachniamasterofthehouse.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Nice forehead!]]
However, her loss of Silverbolt had hardened her, and she was now unable to count on her Maximal allies. Blackarachnia fell back upon her Predacon principles of 'survival of the fittest' and became more withdrawn and skeptical than at the end of the Beast Wars. Blackarachnia had a relatively easy time adapting to her new technorganic form, and was the third Maximal to master transformation, though it took her longer to apply her new robot mode in combat. In robot mode, she was able to fire electrical "stings" through the ground and hurl technorganic webs like discs. However, all of her new abilities and powers were useless as she tried to unravel the mysteries of where and why the population of Cybertron had gone, and why the [[Cybertron InfoCore]] was wiped. {{storylink|Master of the House}} Sometime after that, she received a vision of prehistoric [[Earth]] and her lover. She and Rattrap were then sent to extract data on the Shuttle that ferried them home to Cybertron, before having a run-in with Megatron's new, sentient [[Vehicon general]]s. As she desperately tried to access her missing memories, Megatron manipulated the data link, attempting to probe her mind, and by doing so, finding the Maximal's base. When she realized what was going on, she severed the link at the cost of the Shuttle and their memories. {{storylink|Fires of the Past}}

Blackarachnia and crew later discovered the bat-creature [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]], who led them to a strange organic fruit tree. Upon eating the fruit, Blackarachnia began to revert to her instinctual "animal" mind, and it was only thanks to [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] that her feral mind returned to normal, and thanks to Primal that the bat's life was saved and reformatted into a technorganic body. With the debut of the newest Maximal, Blackarachnia took on a "big sister" role to the inexperienced youth, and as a result mellowed somewhat. {{storylink|Forbidden Fruit}} Later, the group stumbled across one of Megatron's many Transformer junkyards, where the lifeless, [[Spark]]less bodies of the cities were disposed of. When [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]] and Blackarachnia were split up from the battle, a unofficial truce was made between the two uneasy sides, but when, Thrust saved her life and her [[Spark]], having strange recollections of doing so before, her mind was set: He was Silverbolt, mutated and made evil by Megatron. {{storylink|Revelations Part I: Discovery}}

Blackarachnia made numerous peals for Thrust to realize his "true" Maximal nature, though Thrust seemed hesitant. This culminated in Thrust removing her Spark, as [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]] egged him on. As the Spark rocketed into the darkness, Nightscream fought Jetstorm for it. At the same time, on another plane of existence, Blackarachnia encountered Primal, who calmed her astral spirit down, at the same time allowing Nightscream to restore it and bring her back. {{storylink|Revelations Part III: Apocalypse}}

When Tankor gained control of the Key to Vector Sigma and "infected" Nightscream and the new orchard with the Key, Blackarachnia eventually became infected, and temporarily lost her sanity as she was overwhelmed by the "technomatter". {{storylink|The Key}} When the rest of the gang managed to reverse the process, Blackarachnia was saved.

[[Image:Silverboltjetstorm.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Sorry, your boyfriend was behind door number 2!]]
However, not even Thrust's recent behavior would put off the persistent Maximal. Using some of the organic fluid from the Cybertronian core, and after a brief chase, she trapped Thrust in some of her webs and forced his inner personality out, begging for Silverbolt to answer. The reply was not quite what she was looking for.

[[Waspinator (BW)|"Doggie-bot not here!"]]

When Jetstorm attacked, another mishap with the organic goop occurred, and for a moment Silverbolt's true personality emerged, sweeping Blackarachnia in his arms. He returned, but just for a moment. Fighting a passionate [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]], the goo vanished from the both of them, and the Vehicon's minds both returned.

Blackarachnia was involved in the battle in Megatron's Citadel, holding off the Vehicons as Primal confronted Megatron within, though she, along with the others, were all overwhelmed by the Key to Vector Sigma and became comatose. Upon awakening, the four headed to confront [[Optimus Primal|Primal]] in the Oracle, where they convinced him to return to real-space and continue his leadership.

[[Image:Blackarachniasilverboltdarkestknight.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Vamp meets goth.]]
After a brief run-in with the organic Transformer [[Noble|Savage/Noble]], his betrayal, and the introduction of the [[Grand Mal]], Blackarachnia managed to force Jetstorm into a large pool of the organic goo, and his body began to change. Scanning a nearby condor skeleton, he awoke in a new form, a purple technorganic bird of prey. Blackarachnia was startled by the change in him. Instead of the lovable, chivalrous knight in shining armor, he was a brittle, haunted bot, tormented by the images of the evil deeds he had done...done by choice. Though he gave up on himself, she never did, urging Silverbolt to forgive his past, prompting him to head to the Grand Mal to confront his old master and rescue Primal and Cheetor. {{storylink|In Darkest Knight}}

[[Image:Silverboltblackarachniaseedsofthefuture.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Eeek! That smile! Go back to glowering!]]
Even after Silverbolt inadvertently spread a new, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]-enhanced version of the old [[Hate Plague]] causing dissension in the ranks, her love remained, unbroken and undying, though Silverbolt only felt more guilt on his part. However, Blackarachnia softened once more, and displayed traits similar to her pre-technoganic persona with the reintroduction of her lover. Together, the two battled an [[Botanica|alien plant monster]] only to have it join the Maximals, fought [[Obsidian (BM)|two]] [[Strika (BM)|new]] Vehicons, and went up against strange zombies created by Megatron's depolarized Spark.

By the time the final conflict rolled around, Blackarachnia, like the others, was empowered by the Sparks of Cybertron, depleting the Vehicon ranks. However, like the others, she finally fell and her Spark was extracted once again, as Primal and Megatron fought their final battle, resulting in the sacrifice of them both and the reformatting of Cybertron into a technorganic paradise. Swatting away an angry [[Waspinator (BW)|bug]], looking out over their new home, Silverbolt ruined the emotion with the corniest line possible—

{{quote|The menace has passed! At last, we can truly be together, dark venom of my heart!|—Silverbolt to Blackarachnia}}

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====''Universe''====
Shortly after the planet underwent the Great Reformatting, the [[Quintesson|Quintessons]] seized the opportunity to attack, believing that the revolutionary change would have rendered the planets' inhabitants confused and docile. Suffice to say, the Transformers were greatly underestimated. Silverbolt and Blackarachnia were successfully able to fend [[Cybertropolis]] from Quintesson invaders. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II|Wreckers: Finale Part II}}

[[Image:Blackarachniaabduction.jpg|left|300px|thumb|She stabbed my basketball, and the speakers to my stereo!]]
One year later, Silverbolt and Blackarachnia were chosen to greet a ship of returning Autobot heroes from the Great War. Their welcomes were ignored by the crew, which included [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]], [[Roulette]], and [[Shadow Striker (Universe)|Shadow Striker]], when they realized that their home had been transformed into a strange technorganic paradise. Only [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] was unphased, choosing to talk up Blackarachnia and Silverbolt so that he could mug for [[Rook (Universe)|Rook's]] cameras.

[[Image:TFU Blackarachnia vs Rattrap.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Hey, guys, I turned evil again!]]
Their greeting was interrupted by a series of what appeared to be fireworks. Instead, they were beams of energy sent by [[Unicron]] to capture the returning crew, Blackarachnia, and Silverbolt, and bring them to him. When they arrived, a booming voice welcomed them to the [[Pit]], a dimension inside Unicron. Blackarachnia and her fellow captives were painfully smelted down and reformed; only Trailbreaker emerged unchanged. Since she arrived, Blackarachnia had begun to feel a growing anger that she couldn't control. And in this new Unicron-tainted form, she more than welcomed the swarm of creatures that began swarming her group. Overwhelmed, Blackarachnia and the others were herded into the [[Cauldron]] and filed into prison cells. As Blackarachnia protested, she was silenced by [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], one of their hosts.

It was revealed to them by the master of ceremonies, [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]], that they would be forced to fight fellow abducted Transformers. The loser's [[spark]] would fuel and empower Unicron, whose form had fallen into disrepair. Blackarachnia's uncontrollable rage welcomed this bloodsport, as Silverbolt watched helplessly as she fell under Unicron's evil spell. {{storylink|Abduction}}

Optimus Primal, resurrected by [[Primus]], arrived to rescue the prisoners of the Cauldron, and with help from Silverbolt and Trailbreaker, its captives were set free. But Unicron's grip on Blackarachnia was too strong. She began lashing out madly, even at Silverbolt, and the Fuzor took tight hold of her so that he might swiftly remove her from Unicron's grip. But as the others began jumping through a portal that would lead them to their respective homes across the [[Continuity|multiverse]], Blackarachnia had a moment of clarity. Sadly, she told Silverbolt that Unicron had awakened her ''true'' nature, then bid him farewell and threw him through the portal.

[[Image:Optimusprimaluniverseend.jpg|left|250px|thumb|Closure? Maybe?]]
Soon, she was escorted by Tankor and [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]] to the center of Unicron, where she was repulsed to meet a familiar face: Tarantulas! {{storylink|Escape (issue)|Escape}}

Blackarachnia was dispatched to Cybertron's [[Undercity]], where she observed Rattrap for a while. Finally, she made her presence known, stinging him with her cybervenom. She never had liked the vermin, after all. Suddenly, Rattrap was saved by [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]], back from the dead. Blackarachnia was knocked out, and Depth Charge left the weakened Rattrap to fend for himself. As Depth Charge departed, he found himself surrounded by Blackarachnia's [[Piranacon (Universe)|Piranacons]]. {{storylink|Homecoming (issue)|Homecoming}}

{{note|[[3H Productions]] lost the license, and so this story was never finished as intended. However, look into the end of ''Universe'' was shown in a comic published by the next licensee, [[Fun Publications]].}}
Much later, Optimus Primal waged one last desperate assault against Unicron, and his [[Child of Primus|Children of Primus]] were able to defeat the [[Minion of Unicron|Minions of Unicron]]. As Unicron himself seemed to dissolve below them, Silverbolt carried Blackarachnia with him, saving her from sharing the gruesome fate of her evil peers. {{storylink|Revelations Part 2}}

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===''Beast Wars Metals'' comic===
[[Image:Blackarach24.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Keeping something OUT of her crotch, for once.]]
Following the [[Quantum surge]], Blackarachnia was one of the few Transformers ''not'' to be upgraded into a [[Transmetal]]. As [[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]] and his armies laid seige to the weakened Maximal base, Blackarachnia waited in secret for an opening. When [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] was forced to shut [[Sentinel (BW)|Sentinel]] down to let an injured [[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]] in, Blackarachnia saw her chance and entered the base. Knocking out Airazor and ripping [[Rattrap]]'s arm off, Blackarachnia confronted Rhinox. Rhinox proceeded to pull out a "gun", but instead of shooting her with it, he blasted himself in the head (the "gun" actually being a machine allowing him to enter [[Transwarp space]]). Confused, but seeing no further use for the Maximals, Blackarachnia left the base. As the base collapsed behind her, she was approached by Quickstrike, who didn't like her "interfering" with his business. Not in the mood, she immediately kicked his head off. {{storylink|Raise the Curtain for Beast Wars Metals!!|Raise the Curtain for Beast Wars Metals!!}}

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===''Universe'' CD-ROM===
Blackarachnia followed [[Reptilion|Reptillion]]{{sic}} in battle against [[Optimus Primal]] and his Autobot forces. She teamed up with [[Razorclaw (Universe)|Razorclaw]] to fight [[Striker]] before being abducted by [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|Universe CD-ROM}}

==Toys==
===Beast Wars===
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[[Image:Blackarachniabwtoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Post-op Tarantulas.]]
*'''Blackarachnia''' (Deluxe, 1996/1997)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-8'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher, 4 leg-missiles

: Blackarachnia's original toy is a [[redeco]] of the [[Tarantulas]] mold, transforming into a rather generic-looking organic spider. It features a removable spring-loaded launcher hidden in its beast-mode abdomen. It nominally fires the "grappling hook" attached to its abdomen by a string, but its front four beast-mode legs can also be removed and used as ammunition. Like all first-year ''[[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' Deluxes, the robot-mode head has both a "robot" face and a [[mutant head|"mutant" face]]; Blackarachnia is always depicted in fiction using the "robot" one (or a rough approximation thereof).

[[Image:BW-toy BlackarachniaTakara.jpg|right|250px|thumb|She might have an F-cup...or an E.]]

: The [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] release of the toy has numerous color differences from the [[Hasbro]] version, but they are of dubious merit as far as making her more "show-accurate" go. The bright green of the Hasbro version's forearms is replaced with dull silver, while the brighter purple is replaced with a darker, more desaturated purple. Her dark copper paint is replaced with a brighter gold. Her robot-mode facemask is painted gold, which is closer to the show model... but her face beneath is black with gold eyes (instead of gold with black eyes), and she inexplicably gains a new painted-black forehead crest, where the show model has gold.

: This mold was later used to make the [[Tarantulas|"Beast Wars 10th Anniversary" version of Tarantulas]], and the ''[[#BW10J|Beast Wars Telemocha]]'' version of Blackarachnia. It was intended to be used to make [[#UnUni|a second ''Universe'' version of Blackarachnia]], but that toy set was canceled.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1996/Predacon/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm More information on Deluxe BW Blackarachnia at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:VS8-TigatronBlackarachnia.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Battle of the redecos.]]
*'''Deep Forest Showdown: Tigatron VS Blackwidow''' (VS set, 1997)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''VS-8'''
**''Accessories'': Launcher, 4 leg-missiles

: In Japan, "Blackwidow" was available both as an individual and in a "VS" pack with [[Tigatron]]. Both toys were identical to their individual releases.

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[[Image:Blackarachniamctm.jpg|right|300px|thumb|She's got a great personality.]]
*'''Blackarachnia''' (Happy Meal, 1997)
**''McNumber'': ??

: Part of the second [[List of Transformers restaurant promotions|McDonald's]] ''Beast Wars'' Happy Meal pack-in, Blackarachnia's "[[Transmetal]]" form rather resembles some sort of dust mite more than a spider, and the robot mode appears to have fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. It has a ''very'' similar transformation to the earlier promotional figure [[Beetle]].

:Like the other two Transmetal Happy Meal figures, Blackarachnia has some metallic-sheened plastic intended to resemble the colored chromed finish of the retail ''Transmetals'' toys.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1998/Predacon/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm More information on McDonald's BW Blackarachnia at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:BW-toy BlackarachniaTM2.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Covers her privates for great justice/children everywhere!]]
*'''Blackarachnia''' (Transmetal 2, 1999)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-48'''
**''Accessories'': Mandible grapnel-line

: The Transmetal 2 version of Blackarachnia transforms into a large, organic/mechanical, monstrous spider, featuring a grappling hook, switching [[Insignia|faction symbols]] activated by [[#TriviaTM2spark|rotating her spark crystal around]], and a spring-loaded spin-kick action feature. She also has a half-assed "defense mode", bringing the chromed abdomen bits down to cover her chest. Like all larger Transmetal 2s, Blackarachnia has hints of an abandoned "transport" mode, mainly the free-spinning wheels and concealed rockets in the spider-mode abdomen.

: This toy was initially hard to find at retail, as one of the toy's features, a piece of removable chest armor (no, really), was altered slightly, delaying later shipments.

: This mold was used to make the [[BotCon 2000]] [[exclusive]] [[Arcee (G1)#Toys|Arcee]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1999/Maximal/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm More information on Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia at TFU.info]''

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===Beast Machines===
[[Image:Beast Machines Blackarachnia Toy.JPG|right|300px|thumb|She's definitely going to need a big nail file.]]
*'''Blackarachnia''' (Deluxe, 2000)

: An early toy in the ''[[Beast Machines (toyline)|Beast Machines]]'' line, Blackarachnia transforms into a [[technorganic]] spider. In spider mode, squeezing its pedipalps together raises its central fangs; they were spring-loaded to release and lower, respectively. In keeping with the early ''Beast Machines'' "articulated features" motif, her robot mode head has a multi-piece articulated brow, which can slide up to reveal two extra sets of eyes, as she does on the cartoon.

: This mold was later redecoed to make the [[#UniDx|''Universe'' version of Blackarachnia]], as well as [[Crystal Widow]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2000/Maximal/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm More information on Beast Machines Blackarachnia at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:Blackarachniamcbm.jpg|right|300px|thumb|This is transformed correctly, right? Right?]]
*'''Blackarachnia''' (Happy Meal, 2000)
**''McNumber'': ??

: As one of ''ten'' toys in the third Transformers McDonald's Happy Meal promotion, Blackarachnia is a super-simplified version of her retail toy, with a coloration closer to the [[Mainframe Entertainment|Mainframe]] CG model, though more shockingly pink rather than maroon. This toy is designed for the younger set, with softer plastic and no removable parts.

: She is the only [[Beast Era]] character to get two McDonald's Happy Meal toys.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2000/Maximal/McBlackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm More information on McDonald's BM Blackarachnia at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:Blackarachniabeastwarsreturnstoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|You will pay a lot of money to own this extra-pink girl <strike>doll</strike>action figure.]]
*'''Blackwidow''' (Deluxe, 2005)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''BR-04'''

: Part of the Japanese Toys "R" Us-[[exclusive]] ''[[Beast Machines (toyline)|Beast Wars Returns]]'' series, this toy is a redeco of the original ''Beast Machines'' Blackarachnia in a more show-like maroon coloration. Reportedly, this toy was limited to 3000 pieces, a full thousand ''less'' than the others in the original assortment. Since she was also the most changed from the US release in the initial batch of toys, this made her considerably harder to get.

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===Universe (2003)===
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[[Image:Blackarachniauniversetoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|You can pick your faction, and you can pick your girlfriend, but you can't pick your girlfriend's faction.]]
*'''Blackarachnia''' (Deluxe, 2003)

: Part of the second wave of ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' Deluxes, Blackarachnia returned as a [[Decepticon]] and as a redeco of [[#BMDx1|the original ''Beast Machines'' figure]]. However, her forearms were [[Misassembly|mistakenly swapped]], leaving her forearm "spikes" pointing up towards her biceps rather than down near her elbows. She received a Decepticon [[Insignia|faction symbol]] over her [[spark crystal]] as well.

: This mold (with the same swapped-forearms error) was used to make [[Crystal Widow]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Decepticon/Blackarachnia/blackarachnia.htm More information on Universe Blackarachnia at TFU.info]''

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[[Image:Blackarachnia unreleased.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Eyow.]]
*'''Leatherhide Vs. Blackarachnia''' (Halloween Horrorcon value pack, unreleased)
**''Accessories'': Launcher, 4 leg-missiles

:In 2004, a group of test-shots made their way onto eBay, among them a [[redeco]] of the original ''Beast Wars'' Tarantulas/Blackarachnia mold in black with silver spider-legs and salmon-colored robot parts. Later, Hasbro's official website checklist featured listings for two ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' "Halloween [[Horrorcon (Universe)|Horrorcon]] Value Packs" that were to be Wal-Mart [[exclusive]]s... which also likely explains why they were canceled. (Wal*Mart had taken a good half-dozen exclusives and released them more-or-less simultaneously, leading to a huge glut. A lot of other ''Transformers'' exclusives were canceled during the ''Universe'' era.) One of the sets was "[[Leatherhide]] Vs. Blackarachnia"... and thus, the mystery spider was confirmed, as the other test-shots in that group lined up with the name listings given in the sets.

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===Beast Wars Telemocha Series===
[[Image:Blackarachniatelemocha.jpg|right|300px|thumb|It almost works!]]
*'''Blackwidow''' (Deluxe, 2007)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TM-06'''
**''Accessories:'' Launcher, 4 leg-missiles

: As part of the ''[[Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Beast Wars Telemocha]]'' line, the [[#Dx1|original Blackarachnia toy]] was ''extensively'' redecoed with a ridiculous number of gold [[Paint operation|paint application]]s, making her closer to [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] in coloration than the other versions of the mold, but still not quite there. (Her biceps are silver in the show.) All of the [[gimmick]]s of the original toy were retained, though her alternate head didn't receive any paint that wasn't intended to make her nominal head look more show-accurate.

:She came with a DVD containing "The Assassin Virus", the Japanese dubbing of ''Beast Wars'' episode 10, "[[Gorilla Warfare]]".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2007/Destron/BlackWidow/blackwidow.htm More information on Telemocha Blackarachnia at TFU.info]''

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===Binaltech===
[[Image:Blackwidowwildrider.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Honda wouldn't appreciate their car being hot, poisonous, and deadly.]]
*'''Blackwidow''' (Binaltech, unreleased)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''BT16'''
**''Accessories'': Engine-rifle, roof-shield

: In 2005, the mold used for ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Decepticharge]] was presented as an upcoming release for the Japanese ''Binaltech'' line. They decided to give the toy an entirely new deco, as the Hasbro toy's deco didn't appeal to their ideal of "real-life accuracy". In robot mode, the toy was given a color scheme based on Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, with the toy's name being changed to "Blackwidow", Takara's name for the character. Though a [[bio]] and story chapter were written to accommodate it into the ''Binaltech'' fiction, and photoshopped images released through an online retailer revealed the intended color scheme, Takara ultimately decided to cancel the toy altogether, as they were fearing that another redeco (in addition to the upcoming ''Binaltech Asterisk'' toys) would be too repetitive. Plans to release this toy as part of a different line were never picked up again.

: This mold was ultimately released in Japan as part of an unexpected ''Binaltech'' continuation, this time as [[Arcee (G1)#Binaltech|Arcee]]. The original version of the mold was used to make ''Alternators'' [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] and ''Binaltech'' [[Overdrive]].
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==Merchandise==
* '''Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game''' (1997)
:Blackarachnia was one of the 24 beast warriors to receive a battle card representation for the Beast Wars [[Beast Wars Transformers Mutating Card Game|card game]].

===Robot Heroes===
[[Image:Robotheroescheetorblackarachnia.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Cute and poisonous.]]
* '''Cheetor vs. Blackarachnia''' (2-pack, 2008)

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]''-branded [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]], Blackarachnia is a simple, yet well-detailed two-inch tall figurine with exaggerated, cartoony proportions. She was only available in a two-pack with [[Cheetor (BW)/toys|Cheetor]].

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==Trivia==
[[Image:BWBlackarachniaCardArt.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Dirty girls, make some noise. Move that ass for dirty boys.]]
* Blackarachnia's original Beast Wars card art has her wearing a spike-studded collar... while her chest seems to be leopard-spotted. Kinky.

* Reportedly, Blackarachnia's show model was created after some Mainframe folks had taken the design modeler to a strip club only a few days prior for, um... ''inspiration''.
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* Even though Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia's toy has a unique faction-switching [[spark crystal]], the feature doesn't make sense in a fictional context. By that point in the ''Beast Wars'' television series, the Transmetal Driver had destroyed her Predacon [[shell program]], making her fully Maximal. (Though, to be fair, it ''had'' happened mere moments previously.)

* Blackarachnia exhibited what appears to be telekinesis not long after gaining her Transmetal 2 form, levitating a steel girder to stop Rampage in "[[Master Blaster]]". The ability only appeared once and was never explained, though it resembles the other strange, almost supernatural powers wielded by Transmetals 2 in the cartoon. Following her reformatting in ''Beast Machines'', Blackarachnia no longer possessed this ability.

* In the "jovial" Japanese dub of ''Beast Wars'', Blackarachnia's character underwent a few small (depending on your point of view) changes. Firstly, she had a voice that can only be described as "bipolar". She would switch between her usual sultry, flirtatious voice to a screaming blood-thirsty maniac at the drop of a hat. Another notable change is that, while still a strong female character, she was made less independent and was occasionally prone to ''begging for mercy'' from her enemies, something she never did in the English version. However, this isn't the first time the Japanese have done their best to [[Arcee (G1)#The Headmasters cartoon|"improve" upon a female character]].

* Character and fiction information for the cancelled BT-16 "Blackwidow" toy finally emerged in late 2007 with the release of ''The Transformers Binaltech Stories: Profiles and Technical Specifications'', an unofficial publication by ''Binaltech'' story writer [[Hirofumi Ichikawa]] that compiled all then-current ''Binaltech'' information as well as that of the unreleased Blackarachnia and [[Ginrai]] toys. As it was never officially released, this information can be considered [[Pseudocanon|pseudocanonical]] at best.

* The [[:Image:Blackarachniahappymeal.jpg|artwork]] advertising the Transmetal Blackarachnia toy on Happy Meal Bags was rendered with the toy transformed incorrectly. Her beast mode head isn't flipped down, leaving her organic-looking robot mode chest exposed.

* Much like her fellow spider [[Tarantulas]], her original beast mode is depicted with ''nine'' eyes rather then eight.

==References==
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[[Category:Beast Machines characters]]
[[Category:Beast Wars characters]]
[[Category:Decepticons]]
[[Category:Fast food exclusives]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Maximals]]
[[Category:Minions of Unicron]]
[[Category:Predacons]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:Transmetals]]
[[Category:Transmetals 2]]
[[Category:Turncoats]]
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File:Movie Inferno toy.jpg

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Mazenoise:

[[Hasbro]] stock photo of ''[[Movie (toyline)|Movie]]'' [[Inferno (Movie)|Inferno]].

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Inferno (Movie)

2009-11-23T14:49:27Z

Mazenoise:

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{{disambig3|Inferno}}
:''Inferno is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Movie (franchise)|2007 movie franchise]] in the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Infernomovieprimedirectives.jpg|right|400px|thumb|That's some bold posing for a shrink.]]
The horrors of war left many Autobots in emotional turmoil, unsure whether there was even a point to functioning. That's where the psychologist '''Inferno''' comes in. Using complicated diagnostic programs to analyse the feelings of his fellow Autobots, he then adds and adjusts software and code to let his patients cope with their feelings.

Everyone still recognizes [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] first, though. Tough break.

==Fiction==
====IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics====
[[Image:Infernomoviedefiance.jpg|left|300px|thumb|Nobody upstages Big Daddy!]]
After the alien invasion that was a precursor to the Transformers' civil war, Inferno was among a handful of Autobots who assisted [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] in assessing damage. {{storylink|Defiance issue 2}}

Inferno, part of a small group of Autobots guarding the ruins of [[Tyger Pax]], found themselves under attack by countless [[Decepticon|Decepticons]], unaware that they guarded the true location of the [[AllSpark (Movie)|All Spark]]. As the onslaught intensified, their leader [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] led them into a suicide play, giving them some clue of the true importance of their mission. They collapsed the ruined substructure around themselves, trapping as many Decepticons with them as possible and buying precious time for the All Spark to be removed from the Decepticons' grasp.

Inferno suffered major torso damage at the <s>hands</s> thrusters of a [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]]-type drone just before the roof collapsed and was not seen again. His fate remains unknown. {{storylink|Movie Prequel issue 1|Prime Directive issue 1}}

{{note|Inferno was unnamed in either appearance. For his appearance in the first movie prequel, his name was supplied by artist [[Don Figueroa]], though colorist [[Josh Burcham]] claimed he is merely a generic. His second appearance was based on his toy.}}
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==Toys==
===Transformers (2007)===
[[Image:Movie Inferno toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|EN-FUR-NOH! WOO-WOO-WOO-WOO-WOO!]]
*'''Inferno''' (Voyager Class, 2008)
**''Accessories'': Claw-missile, disc projectile, claw attachment, blaster attachment

: A [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]] redeco of ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]], Inferno transforms into a red Nissan Patrol rescue SUV. When a [[Mini-Con]] is attached to his hood-mounted Mini-Con port, the grille springs open. Pulling back on the attached Mini-Con launches a rescue disk/missile. Similarly, when a Mini-Con is used on his emergency lights port and is pushed forward, the sirens flash and a voice chip activates. It still says "RED UH-LURT! WOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOOWOO!"

: In robot mode, pulling back on the Mini-Con unlocks a shoulder-mounted missile/rescue grappling claw launcher, which can also be detached and held in his hand. His right leg guard contains several tools that can be attached onto his left wrist socket, while his left leg guard can be unfolded to become a Mini-Con repair bay. He comes with his Mini-Con partner [[Longarm (Movie Mini-Con)|Longarm]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/Inferno/inferno.htm More information on Inferno at TFU.info]''

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==Trivia==
[[Image:Movie Ratchet 2005Concept.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Ratchet preferred yellow, so Inferno gets sloppy seconds.]]
* Inferno's appearance in [[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s [[Movie Prequel (2007)|prequel comics]] was based on the preproduction design of Movie [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] (see right). After [[DreamWorks]] decided to make Ratchet a different rescue vehicle and yellow, artist [[Don Figueroa]] repurposed the original design for Inferno.

* Later, Inferno got a toy via inspiration from the same preproduction materials. According to [[Hasbro]] designer [[Joe Kyde]]'s [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=4EC7EA7D-D56F-E112-46AC70D02754072E design notes on Hasbro's Transformers website], Generation 1 [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]], the preproduction color scheme of movie [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]], and [[Micromaster]] [[Tote]] were inspirations for Inferno's color scheme.

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[[Category:Movie characters]]
[[Category:Toys "R" Us exclusives]]

Classic Transformers Volume 5

2009-11-22T00:55:26Z

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Volume 5 of Classic Transformers, to be released in late 2009/early 2010? continues [[IDW Publishing]]'s reprint series of old issues of Marvel's original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|G1 comic]] in full-color trade paperback omnibuses. The volume will contain issues 62-74. It is unknown at this point whether issues featuring the trademarked character [[Circuit Breaker]] will be replaced with text summaries as in previous volumes.

==Issue manifest==
===="[[Bird of Prey!]]"====
Original date: November 1989 
Story by: [[Simon Furman]] 
Pencils by: [[Geoff Senior]]

===="[[Kings of the Wild Frontier]]"====
Original date: December 1989 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Deadly Obsession]]"====
Original date: January 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Dark Creation]]"====
Original date: February 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Geoff Senior

===="[[All Fall Down (issue)|All Fall Down]]"====
Original date: March 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Geoff Senior

===="[[Rhythms of Darkness!]]"====
Original date: April 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[The Human Factor!]]"====
Original date: May 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: [[Dwayne Turner]]

===="[[Eye of the Storm]]"====
Original date: June 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: [[Andrew Wildman]]

===="[[The Pri¢e of Life!]]"====
Original date: July 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

===="[[Surrender!]]"====
Original date: August 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

===="[[...All This and Civil War 2]]"====
Original date: September 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

===="[[Out of Time!]]"====
Original date: October 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

===="[[The Void! (US)|The Void!]]"====
Original date: November 1990 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: Andrew Wildman

==Character profiles==
{{issuestub}}

[[Category:IDW titles]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]

Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook

2009-11-22T00:13:53Z

Mazenoise: /* Divergence from original sources */

{{comicstory|seriesissue=''Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook'' #1–4
|image=Bwsourcbook tpbcover.jpg
|caption=Strike a pose!
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|coverdate=August, October, December 2007, February 2008
|written by=[[Simon Furman]] and [[Ben Yee]]
|design by=[[Mike Heisler]] and [[Neil Uyetake]]
|art by=[[Robby Musso]], [[Marcelo Matere]], [[Don Figueroa]], [[Nick Roche]], [[Guido Guidi]], [[Dan Khanna]], [[Liam Shalloo]], [[Josh Burcham]], [[Zac Atkinson]], [[Frank Milkovich]], [[Simon Williams]]
|colors by=[[Zac Atkinson]] [[Josh Burcham]], [[Andrew Elder]], [[Guido Guidi]], [[Kieran Oats]], [[Rob Ruffolo]]
|edits by=[[Dan Taylor]]
|TPB ISBN=9781600101595
|continuity=[[Beast Wars cartoon continuity]]
}}
The '''''Beast Wars Sourcebook''''' is a 4-issue limited series by [[IDW Publishing]], featuring expanded profile entries for ''most'' pre-''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' Transformers from the [[Beast Era]] toy lines (including Hasbro, Takara, [[MicroVerse]], fast-food, and convention [[exclusive]] characters). Entries are in a format roughly borrowed from the [[Dreamwave Productions]]' ''[[More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' profile books and organized alphabetically.

In theory.

==Issue #1 profiles==
—Release date: [[October 3]], [[2007]]

{{collist|4|
*[[Air Hammer]]
*[[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]]
*[[Antagony]]
*[[Apache]]
*[[Arachnid]]
*[[Archadis]]
*[[Armordillo]]
*[[Autocrasher]]
*[[Autojetter]]
*[[Autolauncher]]
*[[Autostinger]]
*[[Bantor]]
*[[Bazooka (BWN)|Bazooka]]
*[[B'Boom]]
*[[BB]]
*[[Beetle]]
*[[Big Convoy]]
*[[Bighorn]]
*[[Bigmos]]
*[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]
*[[Bonecrusher (BW)|Bonecrusher]]
*[[Break]]
*[[Bump]]
*[[Buzz Saw]]
*[[Buzzclaw (BW)|Buzzclaw]]
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]
*[[Cicadacon]]
*[[Claw Jaw]]
*[[Cohrada]]
*[[Coelagon]]
*[[Cybershark]]
*[[Crazybolt]]
*[[Dead End (BWN)|Dead End]]
*[[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]]
*[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]]
*[[Dinobot II]]
*[[Dirge (BWII)|Dirge]]
*[[Dirge (BWII)|Dirgegun]]
*[[Diver (BWII)|Diver]]
*[[DJ (BWII)|DJ]]
*[[Drancron]]
*[[Drill Bit (BW)|Drill Bit]]
*[[Double Punch (BW)|Double Punch]]
*[[Drill Nuts]]
}}

==Issue #2 profiles==
—Release date: [[October 31]], [[2007]]

{{collist|4|
*[[Elephorca]]
*[[Fractyl]]
*[[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]]
*[[Megastorm|Gigastorm]]
*[[Gimlet]]
*[[God Neptune]]
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]
*[[Grizzly-1]]
*[[Guiledart]]
*[[Halfshell]]
*[[Hardhead (BWN)|Hardhead]]
*[[Heinrad]]
*[[Starscream (BWII)|Hellscream]]
*[[Hydra (BWN)|Hydra]]
*[[Icebird]]
*[[Iguanus (BW)|Iguanus]]
*[[Ikard]]
*[[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]]
*[[Injector]]
*[[Insecticon (BW)|Insecticon]]
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]
*[[Jawbreaker]]
*[[Jetstorm (BW)|Jetstorm]]
*[[K-9]]
*[[Killer Punch]]
*[[Lazorbeak]]
*[[Lio Convoy]]
*[[Lio Junior]]
*[[Longrack (BWN)|Longrack]]
*[[Magmatron]]
*[[Mach Kick]]
*[[Magnaboss]]
*[[Magnaboss II]]
*[[Manta Ray (BW)|Manta Ray]]
*[[Manterror]]
*[[Mantis]]
*[[BB|Max-B]]
*[[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]]
*[[Megastorm]]
*[[Motorarm (BWII)|Motorarm]]
*[[Moon (BWII)|Moon]]
*[[Night Glider]]
*[[Noctorro]]
}}

{{note|According to [http://simonfurman.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/beasts-shot/#comment-1624 Simon Furman's blog], Furman wrote the following profiles for this issue: Galvatron, Grimlock, Guiledart, Heinrad, Hydra, Ironhide, Lio Convoy, Magmatron, and Manterror.}}

==Issue #3 profiles==
—Release date: [[January 4]], [[2008]]

{{collist|4|
*[[Onyx Primal]]
*[[Optimus Minor]]
*[[Optimus Primal]]
*[[Orcanoch]]
*[[Packrat]]
*[[Panther]]
*[[Poison Bite]]
*[[Polar Claw]]
*[[Powerhug (BWII)|Powerhug]]
*[[Powerpinch]]
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]
*[[Prowl II]]
*[[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]]
*[[Ram Horn|Ramhorn]]
*[[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]
*[[Ramulus]]
*[[Randy (BWN)|Randy]]
*[[Rattrap]]
*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]
*[[Rartorata]]
*[[Razorbeast]]
*[[Razor Claw]]
*[[Razorclaw (BW)|Razorclaw]]
*[[Retrax]]
*[[Rhino]]
*[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]
*[[Rockbuster]]
*[[Saberback]]
*[[Sandstorm (BW)|Sandstorm]]
*[[Santon]]
*[[Scarem]]
*[[Scavenger (BW)|Scavenger]]
*[[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]]
*[[Scissor Boy]]
*[[Scuba]]
*[[Scylla]]
*[[Sea Clamp]]
*[[Sea Phantom]]
*[[Shadow Panther]]
*[[Sharp Edge]]
*[[Shokaract]]
*[[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]]
}}

==Issue #4 profiles==
—Release date: [[February 6]], [[2008]]
{{collist|4|
*[[Scourge (BW)|Scourge]]
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt II]]
*[[Sky Shadow (BW)|Sky Shadow]]
*[[Skywarp (BWII)|Skywarp]]
*[[Snapper]]
*[[Sling]]
*[[Snarl (BW)|Snarl]]
*[[Sonar (BW)|Sonar]]
*[[Soundwave (BW)|Soundwave]]
*[[Spittor (BW)|Spittor]]
*[[Stampy]]
*[[Starscream (BWII)|Starscream]]
*[[Stinkbomb]]
*[[Survive]]
*[[Tasmania Kid|Tasmanian Kid]]
*[[Terragator]]
*[[Tarantulas]]
*[[Terrormander]]
*[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrosaur]]
*[[Thrust (BWII)|Thrust]]
*[[Thrustor]]
*[[Tigerhawk]]
*[[Tonbot]]
*[[Torca]]
*[[Tigatron]]
*[[Transmutate (character)|Transmutate]]
*[[Tripledacus]]
*[[Transquito]]
*[[Tripredacus]]
*[[Vice Grip]]
*[[Windrazor (BW)|Windrazor]]
*[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]
*[[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfgang]]
}}

==Items of note and errors==
Sadly, the ''Beast Wars Sourcebook'' was best known for failing to deliver on almost every front. In addition to woefully amateurish design and layout work—featuring massive amounts of whitespace surrounding undersized pictures and small clusters of text—the book was plagued by coloring errors and artwork that was either mismatched or missing outright, arbitrary re-writing of character personalities mostly designed to purge any non-Waspinator-related humor from the ''Beast Wars'' universe, and numerous other editorial errors, such as lesser-known characters like [[Bigmos]] getting double-page spreads, while major figures such as [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] got only one. Produced at a time when the IDW editorial team was in flux, the first two issues received a reception that would be described as lukewarm at best. Despite promises that the stabilized editorial staff would mean the final two issues of the series would be much improved, the general lack of any improvement at all left the series as a distinct black mark for IDW.

In an effort to improve things for the trade paperback collection of the series, a topic was even started on the IDW forums so that all the mistakes could be listed. Artistic and typographic errors were duly amended (though much of the [[Frank Milkovich|badly-drawn art pieces]] remained), and many of the page distribution oddities were amended, but the unsatisfying layout work and rewritten characters remained unaltered. In the notes below, ''italic text'' denotes an error that was fixed for the trade.

===Art and coloring errors===
[[Image:SourcebookBB.jpg|right|180px|thumb|I spent the night in Vegas and woke up like this.]]
* ''Blackarachnia's images are solid gold-orange and black.''

* ''BB is similarly colored in nothing but gold-orange, with a little white.''

* Dinobot's colors are based on the [[Dinobot (BW)|''Beast Wars 10th Anniversary'' release of the Dinobot toy]], minus the blue kneecaps and face. In the trade version, Dinobot was given completely new art for robot and beast modes.

* ''Gimlet, Lio Junior, Magnaboss II, and Motorarm are all incorrectly colored as their [[Hasbro]] mold-partners Sea Clamp, Prowl, Magnaboss, and Ram Horn.''

* ''The hind legs of Magmatron's combined-beast mode are incorrectly colored as if they belonged to Skysaur, when they are actually the robot-mode arms from his Seasaur portion.''

[[Image:Silverboltbeastwarssourcebook.jpg|right|180px|thumb|What. The. Hell.]]
* All of the robot modes drawn by [[Frank Milkovich]] are drawn almost ''entirely'' mechanical, including all of the ''organic'' beast mode parts. See image on right, then try to un-see it.

* Speaking of which, Milkovich's renditions of both versions of Rhinox, Scissor Boy, Silverbolt, Tigerhawk, and Tripledacus all have visible pencil sketch lines remaining. Additionally, Tigerhawk even has the edge of a comic draft page left underneath, as the word "issue________" can be clearly seen in one of his wing cannon barrels. Tripledacus has an edge guide corner visible in his foremost foot. It is conveniently covered by the IDW logo on the cover of Sourcebook 4.

* Ravage's "original" Predacon body has his Transmetal 2 beast mode head.

* Not really an error, but certainly bizarre: Scissor Boy is just a mirrored version of Powerpinch's art, with his minor detailing changed. At that point, why not just draw entirely new art?

* Silverbolt II has his beast mode head for a face in robot mode.

* Transmetal Tarantulas is colored in the black and white hues of his later "Fox Kids" repaint, instead of his original show-accurate colors.

===Divergence from original sources===
* The books consistently misuse the term "[[technorganic]]" to describe ''Beast Wars''-era characters, when the term should only properly apply to post-reformatting Cybertronians from ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' or later.

* Despite a stated policy to not diverge from the names of originally Japanese characters, some names have been altered, such as Elphaorpha to "[[Elephorca]]", Blentron to [[Blendtron|Blen'''d'''tron]], and [[Tasmania Kid]] to "Tasmania'''n''' Kid". ''[[The Ascending]]'' disregarded "Tasmanian Kid", but kept "Elephorca".

* The book makes alterations to the personalities and intelligence levels of a fair number of the Japanese characters. Understandably, the cartoonishly stereotypical "Frito Bandito" aspect of the [[Jointron]]s was dropped, but their core personalities stayed basically the same. However, there are numerous instances of ''fundamental'' changes to characters. Mantis, a cold-blooded killer, is described as a smiling friendly guy. Diver is no longer a skittish coward. Hardhead is no longer dumb as toast. Infinitely loyal Guiledart is described as an utterly distrustful schemer. Moon isn't even remotely comedic. Ben Yee is on record as saying these changes were intentional and designed to fit certain characters better into the overall feel of the merged Japanese/American ''Beast Wars'' universe the books were creating.<ref>Ben's review of issue two. (See link above)</ref>

* Airazor's motto is listed as "She swoops to conquer!", but her actual line of dialogue from the episode had been "She '''stoops''' to conquer!" in "[[Call of the Wild]]", a reference to both the 18th-Century [[wikipedia:She_Stoops_to_Conquer|romantic Irish play of the same name]] and the [[wikipedia:Peregrine_Falcon#Ecology_and_behavior|hunting dive used by peregrine falcons]] (her [[Alternate mode|beast mode]]), called a "stoop" ''only'' in reference to that specific breed of falcon.

* Despite being [[Scuba]]'s cousin in the original material, ''Sourcebook'' states that [[Ikard]] is his brother.

* The book contradicts Injector's original toy bio by saying he puts on a show of liking his beast mode, but really thinks it is ugly and he's ashamed of it.

* Magmatron's three individual beast modes are claimed to have "only loose connections to actual reptilian lifeforms", seemingly ignorant of the existence of Giganotosaurus, Elasmosaurus and Quetzalcoatlus.

* Ramulus is described as "even-tempered", whereas his toy bio and previous comic appearances portray him as a hot-headed jerk.

* Prowl II is described as a reincarnation of ''[[Alternators|Binaltech]]'' Prowl, when ''Binaltech'' is supposed to be separate from ''Beast Wars''.

* The [[Mutant (BW)|Mutant]] [[Soundwave (BW)|Soundwave]] is stated to have been a warrior in the Great War, implying that he is the same character as ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]].

===Editing errors===
* The artists' credits sections in the front of the books have numerous inaccuracies. Notably, [[Dan Khanna]] is credited with numerous pieces he did not draw (Dan himself confirmed this), including Blackarachnia, Dinobot, Hardhead, K-9 and Killerpunch. Blackarachnia was likely drawn by [[Nick Roche]], and the Trade Paperback version identified [[Simon Williams]] as the artist for K-9 and Killer Punch with [[Jamie Snell]] as the artist behind Hardhead.

* The alphabetical order of characters gets out of whack in numerous places. For instance, [[Scourge (BW)|Scourge]] is absent from the third issue, even though it ends with Silverbolt, who should be many characters down the list in alphabetical order. He was included in the fourth issue instead.

* Characters are not consistently placed in subgroups. ''Drancron is apparently not a Blendtron, nor is Longrack a member of the [[Pack]]''. The Trade Paperback version meanwhile neglected to list Autostinger as an [[Autoroller]]. On the flip side, Scourge is given the subgroup [[Transmetal 2]], in both versions.

* The entries of ''Beast Wars II'' characters are inconsistent on whether the factions are Maximals and Predacons or "[[Cybertron (BW faction)|Cybertrons]]" and "[[Destron (BW)|Destrons]]". The trade attempted to explain this by including different meanings for the terms in its glossary.

* Issue 2 has a disproportionate number of pointless and incorrectly used parenthetical asides and additions, and sections of sentence between dashes for no good reason. For example:

:''Hydra'': ''"The trouble is, everyone-who's ever had anything to do with Hydra-knows what to expect..."''
:''Injector'': "...his ungainly new ([[Fuzor]]) form..."

* Elephorca's beast mode is labeled an elephant, instead of elephant/killer whale.

* ''Gigastorm's "Abilities" section ends with a bizarre sentence fragment: ".. . built into its fists.built into his right arm."''

* Not so much an error, but the first two issues feature cover images of characters ''not in those issues''. Magamatron is on #1, but his bio is in #2, Torca is on #2 but in issue 4. (However, "Elephorca" '''is''' in #2, so it's entirely possible the art is supposed to be him, and it's just miscolored.)

* ''Ravage's cassette mode is labeled "NAME".''

* The back cover of issue 3 states profiles are listed from "Optimus Minor" to "Silverbolt" when the volume in fact starts with Onyx Primal.

* ''[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]]'s name is misspelled as "Terrosaur" in his page's header.''

* ''[[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]]'s name is misspelled as "Wolf'''g'''ang" in his page's header and on the back cover.''

* The trade paperback version leaves out [[Galvatron (BWII)|Galvatron]]'s weakness, and made [[Break]]'s primary function "PRIMARY FUNCTION".

===Omissions===
* ''A glossary similar to that of the final issue of Dreamwave's ''[[More Than Meets The Eye (G1)|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' was promised by Ben Yee to explain oddities like the inclusion of [[Moon (BWII)|Moon]] with the absence of [[Artemis]], but no such index was included.''

* The [[Egg Beast]]s are notably and intentionally absent from the book, as is McDonald's "[[Under-3|the 'Lion Head Optimus Primal' figure]]".

* Claw Jaw's bio is lacking any mention of his "[[Transmetal]]" form (which was a pack-in [[redeco]] of his original toy and included a ''Beast Wars'' video in various European markets).

* ''Quite a few characters with triple-changer abilities do not have their tertiary mode pictured, though art was often produced.''

* Characters who have had multiple bodies, such as Optimus Primal, Cheetor, Blackarachnia, and Megatron, are depicted with an inconsistent mishmash of their respective bodies' modes, with no profiles managing to include artwork of every mode of each body. ''This issue was apparently fixed in the trade for everybody (including Cybershark, of all 'bots) except Megatron, who still lacks any post-Season 1 artwork.''

* The entry for Magnaboss II states he has the ability to teleport from his member Skywarp, yet oddly the entry for Skywarp doesn't mention any ability to teleport.

==Collections==
* ''Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook'' TPB (May, [[2008]]) ISBN 1600101593 / ISBN 978-1600101595
: Corrects many mistakes made in the individual issues.

* ''Transformers: Beast Wars Omnibus'' ([[March 25]], [[2009]]) ISBN 1600103901 / ISBN 978-1600103902
: Also contains ''[[The Gathering]]'' and the ''[[The Ascending]]''.

==External links==
* [http://www.bwtf.com/comicbooks/idw/bwsourcebook1/ Ben Yee's review of ''Beast Wars Sourcebook'' 1]
* [http://www.bwtf.com/comicbooks/idw/bwsourcebook2/ Ben Yee's review of ''Beast Wars Sourcebook'' 2]

==References==
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[[Category:IDW Beast Wars issues]]
[[Category:IDW titles]]
[[Category:Profile books]]

Classic Transformers Volume 4

2009-11-21T14:51:56Z

Mazenoise:

{{comicnav|Classic Transformers|4|seriesname=''Classic Transformers''|prev=Classic Transformers Volume 3|next=Classic Transformers Volume 5}}[[Image:Classic Transformers Vol4.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Classic Transformers Volume 4]]

In [date not yet identified], [[IDW Publishing]] continued their quest of reprinting old issues of Marvel's original [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|G1 comic]] in full-color trade paperback omnibuses. Volume 4 sports issues 47 to 61. Unlike previous editions, this volume has no issues that required text summaries due to copyrighted characters.

This edition also contains a "character gallery" which reprints character profile pages that were included at the end of these comics.

==Issue manifest==
===="[[Club Con!]]"====
Original date: December 1988 
Story by: [[Bob Budiansky]] 
Pencils by: [[José Delbo]]

===="[[The Flames of Boltax!]]"====
Original date: January 1989 
Story by: Bob Budiansky 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Cold War!]]"====
Original date: February 1989 
Story by: Bob Budiansky 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Dark Star (issue)|Dark Star]]"====
Original date: March 1989 
Story by: Bob Budiansky 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[The Man in the Machine!]]"====
Original date: April 1989 
Story by: Bob Budiansky 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Guess Who the Mecannibals Are Having for Dinner?]]"====
Original date: May 1989 
Story by: Bob Budiansky 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Recipe for Disaster!]]"====
Original date: June 1989 
Story by: Bob Budiansky 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[King Con!]]"====
Original date: July 1989 
Story by: Bob Budiansky 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[The Interplanetary Wrestling Championship!]]"====
Original date: August 1989 
Story by: Bob Budiansky 
Pencils by: [[Jim Fern]]

===="[[Back from the Dead]]"====
Original date: September 1989 
Story by: [[Simon Furman]] 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[The Resurrection Gambit!]]"====
Original date: October 1989 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[All the Familiar Faces!]]"====
Original date: November 1989 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Skin Deep]]"====
Original date: Mid November 1989 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Yesterday's Heroes!]]"====
Original date: December 1989 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Pencils by: José Delbo

===="[[Primal Scream (issue)|Primal Scream]]"====
Original date: Mid December 1989 
Story by: Simon Furman 
Art by: [[Geoff Senior]]

==Character profiles==
{{collist|4|
*[[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]]
*[[Apeface]]
*[[Snapdragon]]
*[[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]]
*[[Brainstorm]]
*[[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]]
*[[Crosshairs (G1)|Crosshairs]]
*[[Searchlight (G1)|Searchlight]]
*[[Chase (G1)|Chase]]
*[[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]]
*[[Battletrap]]
*[[Blot (G1)|Blot]]
*[[Cutthroat (G1)|Cutthroat]]
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Goldbug]]
*[[Rollbar (G1)|Rollbar]]
*[[Wide Load]]
*[[Triggerhappy]]
*[[Cloudraker (G1)|Cloudraker]]
*[[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]
*[[Slugfest (G1)|Slugfest]]
*[[Landfill (G1)|Landfill]]
*[[Quickmix (G1)|Quickmix]]
*[[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]]
*[[Afterburner (G1)|Afterburner]]
*[[Lightspeed (Technobot)|Lightspeed]]
*[[Nosecone (G1)|Nosecone]]
*[[Scattershot]]
*[[Strafe (G1)|Strafe]]
*[[Computron (G1)|Computron]]
*[[Nautilator]]
*[[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]]
*[[Seawing (G1)|Seawing]]
*[[Skalor]]
*[[Snaptrap (G1)|Snaptrap]]
*[[Tentakil (G1)|Tentakil]]
*[[Piranacon (G1)|Piranacon]]
*[[Misfire]]
*[[Pointblank]]
*[[Slugslinger (G1)|Slugslinger]]
*[[Sureshot (G1)|Sureshot]]
}}

[[Category:IDW titles]]
[[Category:Generation 1]]

Army-building

2009-11-19T09:07:03Z

Mazenoise: /* Timelines */

[[Image:Armies of Terrorcons Seacons Sparkdashers Guardminders Autoroopers Guardians Overcharges.jpg|right|400px|thumb|You don't wanna know how much this costs.]]
'''Army-building''' is a nickname for the fan tendency to amass large numbers of generic or mass-produced characters (for example, [[Cobra]] soldiers or [[Star Wars]] Stormtroopers) with the intent of displaying them as an imposingly large cohesive unit. Some army-builders have hundreds of figures, arranged in elaborate dioramas or military-style formations.

The practice is somewhat less-common in ''Transformers'' fandom than in other fandoms, primarily due to the relative lack of mass-produced, identical, "generic" units, but there are notable exceptions. Perhaps due to the relative dearth of toys representing multiple generic characters, some fans amass armies of non-generic characters (like the [[Jumpstarter]]s).

==Generation 1==
===Generation 1 cartoon===
Generation 1 offers many possibilities for army building, usually by using multiple figures of named characters to represent an army of similarly-designed drones.

[[Image:Scourge and Sweeps.jpg|right|200px|thumb|A typical example of the victim of [[Hasbro|somebody's]] [[To sell toys|evil plan.]]]]

* The [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1|pilot mini-series]] featured a fleet of nameless [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] colored differently from [[Starscream (G1)|the]] [[Thundercracker (G1)|primary]] [[Skywarp (G1)|three]]. Two decades later, [[Air Warrior|toys of these "Air Warriors"]] were finally made in the form of ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' [[Plastic|PVC]] figures. They were sold in multi-packs featuring three identical Air Warriors alongside the aforementioned three named Seekers.

* The [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] can be represented by [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]], [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] and [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]. This is probably the cheaper option than using multiples of the ''actual'' drone-unit Insecticon toys [[Salvo]], [[Zaptrap]] and [[Shothole]], and more [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] to boot.

* Multiples of the [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] toy can represent the [[Sweep]]s. This can work especially well if [[Targetmaster]] Scourge is used as the proper Scourge.

* Multiples of [[Gnaw]] can be used to represent the [[Sharkticon (G1)| Sharkticons]]. This works particularly well with this figure, as Gnaw received very little characterization in most official fiction.

* The [[Guardian robot|Guardian robots]]/[[Dark Guardian|Dark Guardians]] are potential army builders, though as an [[e-Hobby]] [[exclusive]] they would be costly ones.

* [[Kremzeek]] could be considered an army builder, albeit a costly one, as he has only been released as a pack-in with the large [[Autrooper]] and [[Masterpiece]] [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] toys.

* Though there are multiple [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]], each one has a different [[character model]], and thus using multiple [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] figures to represent them is not common. Also, he can't really ride himself well.

===The Headmasters===
In [[The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]], [[Sixshot]] demonstrated the ability to create temporary duplicates of himself.

===Super-God Masterforce===
''[[Super-God Masterforce (franchise)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' was good to army builders, as it provided several good opportunities.

* The [[Seacon (Masterforce)|Seacons]] had multiples of all the limb-units; [[Turtler]] was the only non-cloned individual of the group. Thankfully, the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] versions of these toys are identical to the [[Hasbro]] versions, reducing the need for costly importing.

* The [[Sparkdash]] [[Javil]], [[Guzzle (Masterforce)|Guzzle]] and [[Sizzle (Masterforce)|Sizzle]] are all drones with multiple copies. Though Javil and Guzzle's toys are colored differently from their [[Firecon]] doppelgangers, the ''Masterforce'' cartoon gave all three Sparkdash the Hasbro colors, making for cheap army-building for those who'd rather be [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] with their hordes.

* Legions of black [[Guardminder]] drones appeared, led by a single golden one. The black drones can be represented by [[Fasttrack (Scorponok)|Fasttrack]], while the leader can be his upgrade Black Rorichi. However, while collecting a single Black Rorichi wouldn't be too hard, as he comes with BlackZarak, collecting an army of Fasttrack toys, which were only sold packaged with [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], would be expensive.

===IDW Comics===
During [[Devastation (IDW)|Devastation]], the [[Machination]] sent multiple [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] clones after [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]]. However, there is no toy of Sunstreaker in that particular form, let alone as a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]], requiring a substitution. There are also multiple Sunstreaker bodies in black, white and red; though there are no ''Transformers'' toys of these, if one were so inclined they could track down the ''[[Diaclone]]'' red and white <s>Sunstreakers</s> Countach LP500S.

===G.I. Joe vs the Transformers===
[[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II]] issue [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 3|#3]] features a pack of [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] units.

===Timelines===
* The [[Virulent Clone]] [[exclusive]]s of [[BotCon 2005]] were army builders, and in fact were only sold in pairs. However, being convention exclusive toys, building up an army of them is a little expensive.

* [[BotCon 2009]] featured an [[Sweep#Timelines_2|exclusive three-pack]] of Sweeps.

===Kiss Players===
The [[Earth Defense Command]]'s [[Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]] had 48 of the human-created [[Autrooper]] models in service. In what can only be a move designed to encourage army-building, the large Autrooper toy came with a decal sheet with specialized markings for ''all 48 units'', not simply the ones given to pack-in pilot character [[Atari Hitotonari|Atari]]'s Autrooper.

===Alternators/Binaltech===
With the introduction of the [[GT System]] in that series' fiction, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] can inhabit four bodies in unison, so some collectors might take to buying 4 Smokescreens to represent him in his four bodies at once.

===Toy Bios===
E-Hobby exclusive [[Overcharge (G1)|Overcharge]] is a [[Quintesson]] military product with multiple units available. This backstory, along with the multiple different faction [[insignia]]s he is packaged with, encourages army building, though like the Guardian Robots he would be costly to collect.

==Beast Era==
===Beast Wars Metals manga===
An army of [[Scorpion Soldier]]s could be built with numerous [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] toys, if one considers the minor differences between the two characters to be simply due to an artistic interpretation of the character model. Considering how other characters have been... stylized in these mangas, it might not be much of a stretch. Additionally, [[Cobra Soldier]]s could be created out of [[Cohrada]] toys. Unlike the Scorpion Soldiers, however, one would have to slightly alter said toy to be more faithful to their appearances in the manga.

===Beast Wars Neo manga===
The [[Blendtron]]s [[Elephorca]], [[Drancron]], and [[Rartorata]] have many duplicates.

===Beast Machines===
The [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]] of ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' are undoubtedly the most popular army builders from the Beast Era, possibly from all of Transformers, with virtually every Vehicon representing thousands of identical drones. ([[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] was the main exception.)

The [[Beast Machines (cartoon)| Beast Machines cartoon]] featured legions of [[Thrust (BM)| Thrust]], [[Tankor (BM)| Tankor]], [[Jetstorm (BM)| Jetstorm]], [[Obsidian (BM)| Obsidian]] and [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] drones, each commanded by a general. Note that the [[character model]] for Tankor was much closer to the [[Tank Drone]] toy.

The Wreckers comic [[Departure]] further featured drones of [[Scavenger (BM)| Scavenger]], [[Blastcharge (BM)| Blastcharge]], [[Spy Streak]] and [[Mirage (BM)| Mirage]]. Additionally, an on-model depiction of the original toy for Tankor was [[Repurposing|repurposed]] to represent drones for [[Quake (G1)|Quake]] (who had the same bodyform, but in different colors).

==Universe==
The 2003 [[Universe (2003 franchise)| Universe]] comic "[[Homecoming (issue)|Homecoming]]" featured multiple [[Piranacon (Universe)| Piranacons]], toys which would be eventually released by [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] as new decos of the original [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]].

==Unicron Trilogy==
The Unicron trilogy offers multiple possibilities for army building.

===Armada===
[[Image:Deadend Drone General Armada Toys.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Corner pocket.]]
In ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', [[Unicron]]'s interior is patrolled by swarms of [[Dead End Drone|Dead End Drones]], commanded by [[Dead End General]] units. This was originally an expensive toy to army-build, being a pack-in with the [[Unicron|$50 Unicron toy]] (though eventually some Target stores clearanced them for as little as $13). In the ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Galaxy Force]]'' toy line though, the fourth [[Micron Booster]] assortment featured "Bug Drones" at a mere 300 yen a pop (very roughly $3). Unfortunately, the [[Blindpacking|blindpacked]] boxes meant you either had to buy opened samples, or an entire case of twelve toys to ensure getting a single Dead End Drone... and the General came only one per every ''two'' cases.

===Energon===
''Energon'' offers the largest number of potential army builders of the Unicron Trilogy.

* In both the ''[[Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' [[Energon (cartoon)|cartoon]] and [[Energon (comic)|comic]] continuities, the Decepticons send thousands of [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]] drones to combat the Autobots and steal raw energon ore. In the comic continuity, these drones were based on four living, fully-sparked Decepticons: [[Battle Ravage]], [[Cruellock]], [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]], and [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticon]]. In the cartoon continuity, the four drone-types also had color-changed variants sold as limited-retail toys.

{{note|Hasbro would introduce another small Terrorcon to the mix: [[Doom-Lock]]. However, with his complete lack of bio or fiction, he is not technically a [[Canon|canonical]] army-building candidate.}}

* In the cartoon, there were also countless identical [[Omnicon]]s split among the three body types; [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]], [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] and [[Signal Flare (Energon)|Signal Flare]]. The fourth Omnicon type from the cartoon, [[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]], however, was a unique being, serving as the Omnicons' "queen bee". In the comic series, the Omnicons never became mass-produced Transformers.

* The [[bio]] for [[Omega Sentinel (Energon)|Omega Sentinel]] says he is the commander of the "[[Guardians of Cybertron]]", though nothing has ever come forward to indicate just what that group is made up of. Hasbro representatives at [[OTFCC 2004]] indicated that they had intended for groups of Omega Sentinels to appear in the cartoon, but ultimately not even ''one'' did, just the original iteration of the mold, [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|Omega Supreme]]. No canon has specifically made the Omega Sentinel toy, a clear [[homage]] to the [[Guardian Robot|Guardian Robots]] of Generation 1, an army-builder. However, Hasbro's original intent and the Generation 1 allusion has led some fans to collect several of him.

===Cybertron===
Cybertron offers a few good army building opportunities.

[[Image:Scrapmetal Cybertron Toys.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Joe's Apartment 2099]]

* Technically a Terrorcon, [[Scrapmetal (type)|Scrapmetal]] is an excellent army builder from the ''[[Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' franchise. In the Takara line, it was available in three different colorations; red, yellow and blue. Hasbro would later release both the red and yellow versions in their own line, but blue remained exclusive to the ''Galaxy Force'' toyline, ramping up his secondary market value outside of Japan.

* The inhabitants of [[Planet X (Cybertron)|Planet X]] are represented by hundreds of [[Noisemaze Mass-Production Version|gray clones of Sideways]] and [[Laserbeak drone|attack bird-bots]]. Both are cost-prohibitive army-builders, as the "Noisemaze-Mass Production Version" was a DVD pack-in exclusive in Japan (and DVDs are not cheap there even without limited-edition toys packed in), and the only way to collect a horde of Laserbeak drones was by buying multiples of the Voyager-class [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]] toy (which is still less expensive than the Noisemazes).

* Throughout the [[Cybertron (cartoon)|cartoon series]], "clones" of the [[Blurr (Cybertron)|Blurr]] toy are seen both as part of the civilian Autobot ranks hiding on [[Earth]] and inhabiting [[Velocitron]]. These were never seen in robot mode, and sometimes came in red and yellow varieties as well as the toy's blue (no red or yellow versions of the toy exist, though the ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Swerve (Universe)|Swerve]] toy ''is'' a red-colored pre-''Cybertron''-[[retool]] version of the mold). This doesn't exactly inspire too many to army-build him, but the canon is there to support it.

==Movie==
The video games and subsequent comics for the [[Movie (franchise)|live-action movie universe]] feature numerous models of mass-produced robots for both the Decepticons and Autobots. Though there are several toys based on these models (designed primarily for the version of the game for the Playstation 2 and 3, Xbox 360, Wii and PC), the accuracy of the toys' coloration and head design ''to'' the game models varies, but most are geared towards being the Decepticon drones. Interestingly enough, the toys that got [[redeco]]ed were given original decos, not opposite-side game-decos.

* [[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]]'s toy is nearly-accurate to the console game's Decepticon Swindle drones.

* [[Dropkick]]'s toy has the Decepticon drones' deco, but the face is only somewhat like the Autobot face, leaning towards a more unique design.

* [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]]'s toy is only barely accurate to the drone design, owing to timing issues. In the game, both Autobot and Decepticon versions are primarily white. The non-lenshead makes it a little more Autobotty, though.

* [[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] is fairly accurate to the Decepticon version of the drone.

* [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] is similarly very close to the Decepticon drones' design.

* In the movie comics, [[Landmine (Movie)|Landmine]] lent his form to a series of [[L.M.-1 drones]].

==Transformers Animated==
''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]], with his multiple [[Starscream clone|clones]], could be considered an army builder. Additionally, Electrostatic Soundwave could also be viewed as an army builder, considering his appearance in "[[Human Error, Part II]]".

==Revenge of the Fallen==
Potentially, every [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] from the movie is an army builder, because multiple characters with the same body model are either destroyed, merged into Devastator, or are fighting the army at the same time.

[[Category:Fandom]]
[[Category:Toys]]

Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers

2009-11-19T09:04:50Z

Mazenoise: /* Generation 1 */ kind of a good point

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Over the years, many '''misconceptions and urban legends''' have sprung up within ''Transformers'' [[fandom]], often resulting from such factors as fuzzy childhood memories, inaccurate catalog illustrations, and mistranslations of foreign material.

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
*'''Transformers is (only) a cartoon from the Eighties that has been brought back into vogue recently.'''
: A misconception usually held by casual fans or nostalgic adults is that Transformers went away some time around 1986 (or 1987, or 1988—pick your year), and has only recently popped back up as an attempt to cash in on '80s nostalgia.
:In fact, the [[Transformers brand]] has been continuous since 1984 (there was a brief gap between 1990 and 1993 as far as the United States market was concerned, but the brand still continued with new products on other markets). It includes many [[Franchise|lines of toys, cartoons and comics]] that span over two decades, with no sign of stopping, as Hasbro considers it a core brand. Each line has experienced varying degrees of success, rebooting when its target audience gets too old or uninterested in the toyline and fiction.
:Some of this misconception is based on the fact that most of the original audience stopped watching and following the franchise after its cancellation, or even before (as it wasn't "cool" to be kiddy once puberty hit). Without any exposure to the market, the toyline and the new cartoons, they simply assume that ''Transformers'' has sunk in popularity, quality and/or sales, since it's not what they remember.
:It ''is'' true that Transformers hit a low point of popularity in the early 1990s, with the cancelation of Generation 1 and the unremarkable sales of ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]''. But the successor ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' line re-established the brand for a new generation beginning in 1996, and Transformers has been a dominant toy franchise ever since.

*'''Generation 1 obviously has the best toys, cartoons and characters.'''
:Casual fans likewise tend to assume automatically that the original 1980s iteration of Transformers is the best and most successful line to date, with all other successors being unpopular and/or unsuccessful ventures.
:While it's hard to measure the overall success of every line in all its aspects, the original line has been surpassed in both quality and sales multiple times over. In factors such as realistic alternate forms, durability, articulation, action features, and complexity, various later toylines have all exceeded Generation 1. And while fiction can't be measured objectively, many fans will swear up and down by some of the later incarnations of ''Transformers''.
:Arguably, Transformers is in an endless cycle of creating new fans who share new opinions on what is "teh greatest".

*'''Powermaster Optimus Prime was the first, ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.'''

[[Image:G1 OptimusPrime toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|1984—the original.]]
[[Image:PowermasterOptimusPrime toy.jpg|right|150px|thumb|1988—the Powermaster version.]]
:This one claims that the [[Powermaster]] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy, originally released in 1988, is the ''original'', first Optimus Prime toy ever released, rather than the ''earlier'', non-Powermaster toy, which is an entirely different mold and was originally available in 1984. This phenomenon is particularly common in [[eBay]] auctions, where Powermaster Optimus Prime toys are frequently advertised as "ORIGINAL Optimus Prime".
:The reasons for this misconception are obvious: Numerous people arrived late to the party—that is, became fans of the original ''Transformers'' line after the ''real'' original Optimus Prime toy had vanished off the shelves in 1986 (the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] was still shown in reruns on TV). Any of them looking for a toy of the iconic [[Autobot]] leader would only find the Powermaster toy on store shelves starting in 1988. Fast-forward to 20 years later, and people who weren't really paying a lot of attention to the brand for the past few years, now looking to sell off their childhood toys, would naturally conclude that the toy they got as a kid was the ''original'' Optimus Prime toy.
:The phenomenon is even more widespread in countries such as Germany, where the cartoon wasn't officially shown on TV until 1989(!). By that point, the ''original'' toy, which had originally been released by [[Milton Bradley]] on the European market in 1985, was long gone off the shelves. Thus, the only Optimus Prime toy available to kids who had only just become fans because of the cartoon was the Powermaster version. Admittedly, gray imports of the Mexican version of the ''original'' toy by [[IGA]] were also available in European stores around this time, and Hasbro themselves would release the original toy again two years later as part of their European-exclusive [[Classics (Europe)|Classics]] line of reissues. However, the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy was still a lot more widespread.

*'''20th Anniversary Optimus Prime was the Optimus Prime toy available more than 20 years ago/Alternators are the same toys that were available 20 years ago.'''

[[Image:20thAnniversary OptimusPrimesm.jpg|left|125px|thumb|Sadly, this didn't exist until 2003.]]
:This misconception usually comes from people who, upon seeing the 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] toy (which was originally released in 2003/2004), honest-to-god swear it's the toy they had when they were a kid. Similarly, there are also people who believe that the toys from the ''[[Alternators]]'' line are the same toys they had as kids, when they're most likely confusing them with the original Autobot Cars, which are about half the size.
:The reasons for this aren't too hard to guess: People were a lot smaller when they were kids, so obviously the original Transformers toys seemed a lot larger to them. Since these fans didn't repeatedly hold or play with their Transformers while growing up, they weren't constantly adjusting to the toys' size in relation to their own. This resulted in blurred memories of outright ''gargantuan'' Transformers toys available in the 1980s. (One might wonder how tall those people would remember [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] being.)
:When confronted with the original toys—now relatively small because the fans have grown up—these people often reject them, insisting the "original" toys were ''larger'' (occasionally even accusing the ''real'' original toys of being downsized [[Knockoff|knockoffs]]). Showing them the Alternators or 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime, on the other hand, will bring back warm (albeit incorrect) memories.

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*'''A "giant"-sized Optimus Prime toy was available during Generation 1.'''
:A variant of the above of sorts. In at least a few cases, claims regarding a "giant" Generation 1 Prime may stem from dim memories of coming across [http://www.pleasesavemerobots.com/scrambledcity/skorbia/skorbyg2.html oversized Optimus Prime knockoffs that were made in Korea]—or because they had the ''normal'' Prime as kids, when they (the former kids) were about ''half'' the height they are now (see above). Other people also may have blurred memories of the Powermaster Optimus Prime toy's larger robot mode when combined with his trailer.
:The release of 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime didn't exactly help matters either (again, see above).

*'''"Bumblejumper" is a fan name for a yellow version of Cliffjumper./Bumblejumper was sold both on Bumblebee and Cliffjumper cards.'''
[[Image:G1Bumper toy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"Bumper", who later would be known as "Bumper".]]
:As part of the launch of the [[The Transformers (toyline)|''Generation 1'' toyline]] in 1984, Hasbro released two Autobot [[Mini Vehicle|Minicar]] toys, [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], both of which had vehicle modes that used [[Choro-Q]]-like proportions. Bumblebee was based on a classic Volkswagen Beetle, whereas Cliffjumper was based on a Porsche 924 Turbo. In all the official advertising as well as the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon series]] and the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel comics]], Bumblebee was consistently colored yellow, whereas Cliffjumper was colored red (not counting one-off coloring and [[Animation error|animation errors]]). However, Hasbro also released a red Bumblebee and a yellow Cliffjumper, both of which used the same cardbacks as the regular versions.
:In addition, Hasbro also released a [[Bumper (G1)|''third'' mold]] using a similar body structure and transformation scheme, based on a Mazda Familia 1500XG. This toy had originally been available as part of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]'' line, but was not officially advertised as a ''Transformers'' toy. (Note that this toy is not to be confused with [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]], a yellow [[retool]] of Cliffjumper released in 1986.) To this very day, only yellow samples of this toy in ''Transformers'' packaging have surfaced, all of them on "Cliffjumper" cards. The color variants for Bumblebee and Cliffjumper continued to be available with the 1985 assortment (which featured [[Rubsign|rubsigns]] and the Mini Vehicle toys packaged in robot mode rather than in [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode]]), whereas no samples of the Mazda Familia in 1985 packaging have surfaced thus far.
:Fans later started to refer to the Mazda Familia mold by portmanteau names such as "Bumblejumper", "Cliffbee" and "Bumper". The last of these names was eventually made official when a character based on the toy made appearances in the ongoing [[Generation One (Dreamwave comic)|''Generation One'' Volume 1]] comic series by [[Dreamwave Productions]] and in the ''[[Megatron Origin]]'' mini-series by [[IDW Publishing]]. However, fans who know about the Bumblebee/Cliffjumper color variants, but are unaware of the existence of the Mazda Familia mold, occasionally incorrectly assume that the name "Bumblejumper" refers to the yellow color variant of Cliffjumper... which is simply referred to as "yellow Cliffjumper" by most fans.

*'''A now-rare (and thus valuable) blue variant of Bluestreak was available during Generation 1.'''

[[Image:G1 Bluestreak boxart.jpg|right|150px|thumb|You had this as a kid. The picture, that is. Not the toy.]]
:The very earliest [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] toy [[catalog]]s used a photo of a blue-sided ''[[Diaclone]]'' Fairlady Z to represent [[Bluestreak]]; photographs of the same toy were used for Bluestreak's own [[Instructions|instruction booklet]]. The same blue-sided color scheme was also used on his [[Package art|box art]]; Bluestreak's box art was in turn shown on ''every'' 1984 instruction booklet as a sample tech spec.
:All this gave rise to a long-standing myth that a blue Bluestreak toy was sold under the ''Transformers'' brand during Generation 1, with some people going so far as to "remember" owning blue Bluestreaks as children, or at least knowing someone else who did. Adding to the confusion, ''[[wikipedia:ToyFare|ToyFare]]'' magazine has a long history of listing the supposed blue Bluestreak as a "foreign [[variant]]" in its monthly price guide.
:However, actual samples of a blue-sided Bluestreak in a sealed ''Transformers'' box have ''never'' appeared, and the [[Karl Hartman|collectors who have been at it since the very beginning]] and [[Jon Hartman|amassed ''insane'' numbers of rare Transformers]] have never seen one.
: Oddly enough, numerous other Transformers toys from that era were depicted in both catalogues and packaging art with colors they were never released in —[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], for example— yet Bluestreak is the only one to be (mis)remembered in this manner, perhaps because his name is Bluestreak, so he had to have been blue, right?

*'''A show-accurate Skyfire toy was available during Generation 1.'''

[[Image:Jetfire-SkyfireModels.jpg|left|150px|thumb|Patience. You just have to wait 22 years.]]
:Due to some legal entanglements, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] was renamed "Skyfire" for the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]], with a character model that bore only a vague resemblance to the toy. Some confused viewers seem to have come away assuming that there had to be a [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] Generation 1 toy by the name of Skyfire. (The ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' Jetfire toy is actually designed as a mix between the original toy and the cartoon character model.)

*'''Some Generation 1 toy molds were in use as long ago as 1974.'''
:Some ''[[Micro Change|Microchange]]''-derived toys have the text "©1974 TAKARA" stamped on them, and as a result are occasionally sold on eBay with descriptions such as "original 1974 [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]". However, the date 1974 refers to the introduction of the original [[Microman]] franchise; the first ''Microchange'' toys weren't even designed until the early 1980s.

*'''A winged variant of Sludge was available during Generation 1.'''
:A [[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]] [[knockoff]] that featured wings and a pterodactyl-like beast head was fairly commonplace during the Generation 1 era, and in some cases people who owned this knockoff as children seem to have misremembered it as being a [[Hasbro]] or [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]-produced [[variant]].<ref name="Sludge Knockoff">[http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Knockoffs/Sludge1.html http://www.toyarchive.com/Transformers/Knockoffs/Sludge1.html]</ref>

*'''A Unicron toy was available during Generation 1.'''
[[Image:Unicron Proto.jpg|thumb|200px|Seriously, aren't you glad your poor parents didn't have to waste like a hundred bucks on this back in '86?]]
:No toys of [[Unicron]] were available (or even produced beyond [[prototype]]) until 2003. In fact, the mere ''existence'' of those prototypes wasn't actually officially confirmed until many years later. The first official Unicron toy to be released came out as part of the ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' line in 2003 and was a brand new mold, not based on an old, unused prototype.
:The fictional existence of a ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' Unicron toy is likely based on schoolground one-upmanship: if one kid had a larger toy such as [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] or [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], a rival kid would claim to have a Unicron toy in order to appear cooler, but would most likely retire to his bed a sobbing mess, knowing in his heart that one day [[Primus|God]] would punish him for being a HUGE FIBBER.

*'''The Decepticon combiner team Seacons is pronounced "See-ih-cons" vice "See-cons."'''
:This belief stems from the fact that nearly all Decepticon teams before them had a "i" or "a" vowel break in between the prefix and "con" (Construct'''i'''cons, Combat'''i'''cons, Pred'''a'''cons, etc), with nearly all the teams having three or more syllables. To fit the pattern, some fans inserted an extra syllable into "[[Seacon (G1)|Seacon]]s", expanding the name to "See-ah-cons" or something similar. There was little to disprove this, since audio media mentioning the team by name is rare. However, fans have since found there was one toy commercial for the set and the narrator clearly calls them "See-cons."

*'''The reissue Soundwave toys released by Takara are reverse-engineered from Soundblaster because the original molds are lost'''
:Both the ''[[Transformers Collection]]'' and ''[[Encore]]'' [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] releases have different tape buttons and hinges than the ones found on the vintage Hasbro release. While the vintage Hasbro Soundwave had inset controls and an internal tape deck hinge, the Takara reissues have a large button block that serves as a pivot point for an external tape deck hinge. The supposed reason for this is the mold for the original versions of the buttons and door are lost or worn out, so a new single tape door was made to work with the Soundblaster mold.
:In fact, the buttons and hinge used on the reissue Soundwaves were originally a [[retool]]ed running change [[variant]] of Takara's original 1985 release of Soundwave. The further Soundblaster retool was based on the later Japanese version of Soundwave, as were the reissues. Presumably, the original mold in its original condition ''is'' lost - but this happened ''long'' before Takara retooled Soundwave into Soundblaster.

===Generation 2===
*'''"Generation 2" means "after ''The Transformers: The Movie''."'''
:This common but explicitly false idea probably stems from the many casual fans who grew up with the original ''Transformers'' line but stopped paying much attention around 1986, when the animated ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' debuted and the ''Transformers'' craze began to die down. Many such fans regained some interest in ''Transformers'' many years later, particularly with hype surrounding the [[Transformers (2007)|2007 live-action movie]]. Seeing the phrase "Generation 2" batted around in fandom, it might seem natural to assume it refers to the big changeover that happened with the animated film. It certainly didn't help that, early in the life of [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]], [[Pat Lee]] shared in this misconception, leading other new arrivals to the fandom to ape his use of the term.
:While the original animated movie certainly marked a change from one "generation" of toys to another, along with some new design trends, the phrase "Generation 2" refers to [[Generation 2 (franchise)|a very specific franchise]], marketed from 1992 to 1995—years after the animated film had come and gone. Its relative obscurity probably contributes to the mis-attribution of the term, as ''Generation 2'' marks a low point in popularity for ''Transformers'' as a whole.

===Robots in Disguise===
*'''The ''Robots in Disguise'' toyline was known as "Transformers 2000" in Japan.'''
:As information about the then-new [[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|''Car Robots'' toyline]] began to trickle out of Japan in 2000, early rumors purportedly from Japanese sources indicated that it was officially named "Transformers 2000".<ref name="Transformers 2000">http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_frm/thread/e6436b92178f0c0a</ref> It's possible those Japanese sources were also going by early, inaccurate rumors or perhaps a soon-to-be-discarded working title for the line. The idea persisted with many Western fans well after the true name of the show was revealed, encouraged by online import retailers (who were equally misinformed) using the title to promote pre-orders on their sites.

===Alternators===
*'''A yellow version of Alternators Tracks was released to North American stores (but then recalled by Hasbro).'''

[[Image:YellowTracks.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Only in Japan, baby.]]
:When [[Hasbro]] (and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) originally announced the ''[[Alternators]]'' version of [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] in 2004, the toy's [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode's]] primary color was yellow. This caused the ire of a significant portion of the fandom, which insisted that the toy had to be ''blue'', like its ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' predecessor.
:However, while Takara did release their ''Binaltech'' version of the toy in yellow, stolen [[Prototype|samples]] of the Hasbro version eventually surfaced which were indeed blue rather than yellow. Hasbro eventually confirmed at [[OTFCC 2004]] that the initial idea had been to release the toy in yellow first, and then later as a running change [[variant]] in blue, like Takara would ultimately do. However, Hasbro had encountered problems at the test shot stage, where it became evident that some of the toy's innards were shining through the yellow plastic. As a result, plans for a release of the yellow version were scrapped, and it was decided to release the blue version from the get-go.
:However, around the time when the yellow version of ("Autobot") Tracks was originally supposed to arrive in stores, rumors started circulating that some stores (usually Wal-Mart) had indeed received a shipment of the toy, but were then asked by Hasbro to send back the entire batch. Some variants of this rumor later even claimed having seen a cell photo from the friend of a friend depicting a yellow Alternators Tracks in packaging on top of a case sporting a "RETURN TO SENDER" note. Conveniently, circumstance always prevented these people from taking a photo and sharing it with the internet public.
:Needless to say, no substantial evidence has ever surfaced to back up these claims. Furthermore, there are several factors that make this story extremely doubtful: First, Hasbro—in their own words—discovered the problems with the see-through yellow plastic at the test shot stage (which is the entire ''point'' of this part of the production run). Why would they actually bother to continue the production run, print the packaging, pack the toy and send it to stores and ''then'' decide to recall it? Never mind that toy recalls are usually done due to safety concerns, not because of ''looks''. Also, we've seen "leaked" (read: stolen) packaged samples of pretty much every single Alternators toy several months prior to its official release. Yellow Tracks? The last thing we saw of him was an unpackaged, painted sample with (intentionally) off-color Autobot sigils and "NOT FOR SALE" markings. In the four years since the toy's alleged stealth shipment to stores, not a single packaged sample has surfaced.
:The only "packaged" versions of a yellow ''Alternators'' Tracks we ever got to see were internet pranks of the "yellow ''Binaltech'' Tracks in photoshopped Hasbro box" variety. Which, of course, didn't exactly help matters.

*'''Hasbro omitted ''Alternators'' Windcharger's gun barrel for safety reasons.'''

[[Image:WindchargerOverdrive.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Castrated at the request of Honda.]]
:When the first stolen [[Prototype|test shots]] of ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]] surfaced in 2004, the toy sported an extraordinarily long gun barrel (which doubled as the [[Alternate mode|vehicle mode]]'s drive shaft). However, when [[Hasbro]] finally officially announced the toy on their public website, the gun barrel was missing from all the official photos. Since Hasbro's photographers have a reputation of frequently depicting mistransformed toys in their official promotional photos, fans initially assumed that Hasbro was showing a "broken" toy—but then the first (stolen) packaged samples surfaced, which were also lacking the barrel.
:The toy was ultimately released without the barrel, which was not shown or mentioned anywhere on the packaging or in the instructions. Indeed, Windcharger's weapon accessory was officially identified as a "shield" on the back of the packaging (in addition to the actual, ragtop roof shield). [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], on the other hand, later released their own ''Binaltech'' version of the toy (named [[Overdrive]]) with the full barrel, prominently shown in the official promotional photos.
:The initial fan theory upon seeing the barrel-less toy was that Hasbro had gutted it [[for safety reasons]], since the long barrel might pose choking hazard. Even though this was refuted by actual experts on toy safety standards, the rumor still persisted. An official response of Hasbro's customer service department to an e-mail inquiry (published on a fan site's message board) confirmed that the reason for the barrel's omission was "so the accessory would not look like a weapon".<ref name="Windcharger gun barrel">"http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.php?showtopic=13088 Response from Hasbro's customer service department regarding the lack of Alternators Windcharger's gun barrel.</ref> Some fans now shifted the blame from Hasbro (or toy safety laws) to Honda, since all ''Alternators'' toys were officially licensed vehicles (Honda wouldn't be the first company to have objections about their vehicles being depicted as "war toys", either), while others tried to ambiguously interpret the response mail, or even accuse Hasbro's customer service department of simply not actually knowing what they were talking about. The release of Takara's version with the full gun barrel intact didn't exactly help to resolve matters either.
:Eventually, Hasbro (in the presence of Takara representatives) would confirm the full story at [[BotCon 2005]]: It had indeed been Honda, specifically their North American branch, that had asked to remove the gun barrel and all references to "weapons" from the toy, its packaging and included paperwork. Honda's Japanese department, on the other hand, had no such concerns, which is why Takara were able to release the ''Binaltech'' version with the barrel intact.
:This didn't mark an end to the "for toy safety reasons" rumor, though: Some fans who are unaware of Hasbro's statement at the BotCon panel still assume the (seemingly) evident explanation, whereas some conspiracy theorists explicitly reject the official explanation by Hasbro, arguing that Hasbro would rather put the blame on Honda than openly admit that they had altered a toy in order to conform to toy safety regulations.

===Masterpiece===
*'''Masterpiece Convoy has more diecast parts than 20th Anniversary Optimus Prime/Masterpiece Convoy is made almost entirely out of diecast/20th Anniversary Optimus Prime is made entirely out of plastic'''
:This misconception ''might'' be extrapolated from the ''[[Alternators]]'' toys, which are made entirely out of plastic (except for the rubber tires) for their Hasbro releases, whereas their Japanese ''Binaltech'' counterparts feature a few parts made out of [[die-cast|die-cast metal]].
:In fact, however, the amount of die-cast metal parts versus injection-[[mold|molded]] plastic parts is the same between 20th Anniversary [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Optimus Prime]] and his Japanese ''[[Masterpiece]]'' Convoy counterpart. The only differences between the two toys (not counting the packaging) are the shortened smokestacks for Hasbro's 20th Prime and the addition of painted battle damage that is missing from the Takara version.

===Europe (all generations)===
*'''The Generation 1 Seacon Overbite was released under the name "Jawbreaker" on some European markets.'''
[[Image:JawbreakerComic.jpg|right|thumb|UK comic exclusive name variant!]]
:This appears to originate from the fact that [[Enemy Action!|issue 152]] of the Marvel UK comics, the first appearance of the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]], refers to [[Overbite (G1)|Overbite]] as "Jawbreaker", a name repeated in his appearance in [[Salvage!|issue 160]] and an "A to Z" profile in the [[Transformers Annual 1989]]. In the early days of the Transformers online fandom, when information about (and scans of) the UK comics were made available to a larger number of American fans for the first time, they concluded that this must mean that the toy had been released under a different name in Europe (which is not ''entirely'' unfounded: Generation 1 toys ''had'' been released under alternate names in Canada and Italy; and many of the tail-end G1 toys that were released following the cancellation of the line on the United States market were also available in several name variants on various European markets). A further variation of this rumor even cited legal (possibly [[trademark]]) reasons as an explanation for the alleged name change.
:However, no substantial evidence has ever surfaced to back up this rumor; in fact, European fans, when questioned, all claimed to recall that the toy was called "Overbite" when released in their respective countries (except for Italy, where [[GiG]] actually didn't release the Seacons ''at all''). Furthermore, the [[Letters page (Marvel UK)|letters page]] in [[City of Fear!|issue #164]] of the UK comic features a question by a confused (British) reader who inquires about the "Jawbreaker" name, since the toy was called "Overbite" when released in the UK (which then results in a made-up-on-the-spot explanation on behalf of the Marvel staff to reconcile both names).
:So, why ''did'' the story identify the character as "Jawbreaker"? It's likely that writer [[Simon Furman]] simply got a few names mixed up, since the Overbite toy's instructions refer to his ''weapon'' as a "Jawbreaker cannon". That, or "Jawbreaker" was an early working name for Overbite. Or, as his first appearance was very early in the year, when the story was written Marvel UK had received incomplete information about a toy that was not yet on sale.

*'''Some toys were exclusively (or predominantly) available in the United Kingdom (sometimes also the Netherlands)'''
:This likely stems from the fact that during the early days of the Transformers online fandom, when information from European countries was shared with American fans, two of the most active fanbases (or, at least, fanbases with members who were capable of, and interested in, engaging in conversations using the English language) as far as Europe was concerned were based in the UK and in the Netherlands. As a result, when information about toys (or toy variants) that were not available in the United States was spread, there simply were no fans from Germany or France around to confirm that the toys in question had also been officially available in their respective countries.
:As a result, the red variant of [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] was initially branded a "Netherlands" release, as were some the Mexican toys originally produced by [[IGA]] for the Mexican market that were later imported to Europe through gray channels and sold in at least half a dozen countries (most notably exotic variations such as blue versions of [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]]). Meanwhile, tail-end G1 releases after the toyline had been cancelled as far as the United States market was concerned, such as the [[Action Master Elite|Action Master Elites]], the "[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]" reissues, the [[Turbomaster|Turbomasters]] or the [[Obliterator|Obliterators]], were often referred to as "UK exclusives" (and are occasionally still to this very day), even though all of them were also available in numerous other countries—some of them even in Canada and Australia!
:Simply put, there are very few toys that were actually exclusive to a single European country. The bizarre red-footed variant of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|G1 Optimus Prime]] has only been confirmed for the UK and France thus far (apparently in two different packaging variations, no less), and ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Jazz (G1)|Meister]] and ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' [[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]] have both only been released in Italy as far as the European (but not the American, or Australian, or Asian) market is concerned. Even the red "Powerlinx" version of ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Thrust (Armada)|Thrust]], which had originally been available as a "[[USA Edition]]" in Japan and was later found in Israel of all places, also has confirmed sightings for Italy, Portugal, Spain and the United Kingdom. The toy was even found in ''Australia'', but only in stores that also occasionally sell toys imported from other countries, and again in European packaging, oddly enough.
:The first ''genuine'' "UK exclusives" were released as part of the accompanying [[Movie (toyline)|toyline]] for the 2007 [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' live action movie]], namely a three-pack containing the Deluxe Class toys [[Jazz (Movie)|Autobot Jazz]], [[Protoform]] [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Brawl (Movie)|Decepticon Brawl]], and a two-pack, named "Towed to Safety", which contained the first of the two Deluxe Class [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] molds and [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] (''not '' to be confused with the Screen Battles "Final Stand" set, which was ''also'' available in the UK), both of them in their original decos. Meanwhile, other multi-packs or minor variants of toys from the 2007 movie toyline that were available in the UK but not in the United States were also available in other places, such as Japan, Hong Kong, Australia or other European countries again.

*'''A green variant of Trailbreaker was available in some European countries.'''
:This belief seems to stem from the fact that [[IGA]]'s Mexican version of [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (which, like most Mexican Transformers, was widely available on the European gray market circa 1989, as mentioned above) used the same head sculpt as [[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]. But like the "Blue" Bluestreak, no samples of an actual green version of the Trailbreaker mold actually sold ''as'' "Trailbreaker" have been found.

===Other===
*'''Takara (alternatively, Hasbro) are ''solely'' responsible for designing, developing and manufacturing (all, or certain specific) ''Transformers'' toys.'''
: This was true only for the original [[The Transformers (toyline)|''Generation 1'' toys]], and possibly also the [[Generation 2 (toyline)|''Generation 2'' toys]]. Most of the toys from 1984 to 1986 were imported (and, occasionally, slightly altered) versions of already-existing Japanese toys originally designed and released by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]. Following that, Takara developed new toys both for the Japanese and the Western market, now specifically with ''Transformers'' in mind. The primary exceptions are a handful of toys licensed from other Japanese companies (Jetfire, Whirl and Roadbuster, for example), and the 1986 toys for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|animated movie]], which were mostly based on designs by [[Floro Dery]].
: However, at least since the time of the [[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]] toyline, most "main" line toys released both in Japan and the Western hemisphere (such as the [[Unicron Trilogy]], ''[[Alternators]]'', the [[Movie (toyline)|2007 Movie line]] and ''[[Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]/[[Henkei! Henkei! (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'') have been designed and developed in cooperation between [[Hasbro]] (or its subsidiary [[Kenner]]) and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] (now TakaraTomy). (For the specifics of this joint venture development process, see the article about [[Toy|toys]].)
: Still, numerous reasons have led some people to assume incorrectly that ''all'' ''Transformers'' toy lines were ''solely'' developed by only one of the two companies:
:* The Western public and mainstream media, naturally, tend to be unaware of the existence of Takara (TakaraTomy these days). It's therefore logical to assume that Hasbro, the company responsible for distributing Transformers toys outside Japan, is also solely responsible for developing and manufacturing the toys. The fact that Hasbro regularly chooses not to mention their Japanese business partner in official press releases and interviews hasn't exactly helped matters, either.
:* On the other hand, Western anime fans are used to Japanese companies being solely responsible for designing robot toys, which are then imported and sold by Western companies. For lack of better knowledge, those people then simply assume the same also applies to ''Transformers'' toys — namely, that Takara does ''all'' the design and engineering work on their own, and Hasbro is merely the Western ''distributor'' of those toys. The fact that the back of Hasbro's packaging for ''Transformers'' toys sports a small note saying "Manufactured under license from Takara Co., Ltd." (changed to "TOMY Company, Ltd." on more recent toys) is occasionally cited as "proof" that Takara is the sole manufacturer of ''Transformers'' toys as well. A long paper trail of evidence to the contrary<ref name="Hasbro Tour">[http://www.seibertron.com/events/gallery.php?event_id=70&size=0&start=272 Exemplary rundown] of the development process of ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' Leader Class [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], shown during the Hasbro tour at [[BotCon 2007]]. Of course, Hasbro just replaced the name "Takara" in some of the steps with "Hasbro" in order to convince fans that... yeah, riiiight.</ref> has not been able to convince those people of the flaws in their conspiracy theory — rather, some of them have even postulated the existence of a so-called "Hasbro PR machine", whose sole purpose is to convince ''Transformers'' fans that Hasbro actually has a larger part in the development of ''Transformers'' toys than is actually the case.<ref name="Propaganda">[http://toyboxdx.com/phorum/read.php?1,88668 ToyBoxDX thread with anime fanboys arguing that "Takara is an enormous toy '''manufacturing''' company. Hasbro doesn't manufacturer anything. The sole reason for its existence is for marketing the products of their partners and wholly-owned subs. Just to be clear here - Takara is bigger than Hasbro."] They wouldn't even believe that [[Joe Kyde]] actually worked at Hasbro. No kidding.</ref>
: That being said, there ''are'' indeed a few toys originally developed by either Hasbro or Takara without the other one's involvement, and then later picked up by the other company, but they're fewer than usually assumed: For Takara, those include the new molds for ''[[Beast Wars II (franchise)|Beast Wars II]]'', ''[[Beast Wars Neo (toyline)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' and ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Car Robots]]'', plus various mostly short-lived, collector-aimed, niche market lines (such as the new ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' molds, the ''[[Smallest Transforming Transformers]]'', the ''[[Hybrid Style]]'' toys etc.); for Hasbro, those are mostly either toys originally based on fiction-based franchises that did not originate with Hasbro (such as [[Animorphs]] or the ''[[Star Wars|Star Wars Transformers]]'' and their later successor, ''[[Crossovers|Transformers Crossovers]]''), cross-brand lines ''within'' Hasbro where the Transformers toys only make up one part of the overall lineup (such as the [[Titanium Series]] and the [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] figures) and a few very rare "main" line Transfomers toys such as the ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Power Master|Power Masters]] and [[Grimlock (Energon)|Grimlock]], [[Swoop (Energon)|Swoop]], [[Alpha Quintesson]], [[Kicker Jones#Toys|Energon Kicker]] and [[High Wire (Armada)|High Wire]] from ''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]''.

*'''Takara's Japanese-market releases are always of intrinsically better quality than their U.S. counterparts. (E.g., they have sweeter exclusives, and are always more show-accurate, have more accessories, and have tighter quality control.)'''
: This one depends a bit on the speaker, as it can either be a genuine misconception, a matter of opinion, or at worst, [[Personal canon|willful]] [[True fan|snobbery]]. But, like any broad generalization, it does have some basis.
:*"Better quality" can refer to the fact that Japanese versions of individual toys sometimes have clear plastic instead of painted-on windows like [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Movie Bumblebee]], or have vac-metallized parts where the equivalent U.S. release doesn't, like [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|''Energon'' Optimus Prime/Grand Convoy]]. Or, "better" quality can refer to the fact that Japan is a less litigious society, with different toy safety laws, and Takara can thus give [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Prime]] toys old-school long smokestacks, which are now shortened in the U.S. [[for safety reasons]]. These laws also mean that [[Megatron (G1)|Masterpiece Megatron]] is freely available in Japan, but hard to get in the U.S. (the exact opposite of ''real'' handguns, ironically).
:*"More [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] decos" does have some basis, as Takara frequently releases its toys later than Hasbro does Stateside, and thus they are better able to reflect discrepancies between late-run changes to a character's coloration in a show (such as with the original [[Rattrap]] or [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|''Armada'''s Tidal Wave]]). The most extreme example of this was ''[[Beast Machines (franchise)|Beast Wars Returns]]'', the Japanese release of ''Beast Machines'', which was ''years'' later than in the U.S., allowing Takara to add a lot of the deco that was added to the characters by [[Mainframe Entertainment]] that was not the original toys. (''See also'': [[Show-accuracy]])
:*"More accessories" mostly comes from the fact that ''some'' of Takara's releases have some extra accessories, but the only cases of this before the reissues were [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]'s two swords, Megatron's sword and bullets (even though the Japanese release lacked the barrel, scope and stock extensions) and clear cases from the various cassettes. Japanese reissues have included additional accessories from the cartoon (the axe, chain mace, Energon cubes and gun-mode Megatron in the [[Transformers Collection]] reissues of Optimus and Megatron, Insecticons and Starscream, respectively, the Matrix from New Year's Convoy). Some ''[[Energon (franchise)|Super Link]]'' releases came with [[Redeco|redecoed]] [[Energon weapon|Energon weapons]] as well.
:*"Sweeter exclusives" is really a matter of taste. If endless redecos of Generation 1 toys as completely unprecedented Generation 1 characters, buying $40 worth of toys you got a month ago for a single [[Mini-Con]], and shelling out half your mortgage for [[Lucky Draw figure|Lucky Draw]] gold chrome figures is what floats your boat, then yeah, Japan has better exclusives.
:*"Tighter quality control" is a total myth. Takara products are manufactured under much the same production conditions as Hasbro's (pretty much everything for both markets is made in China), and their standards of quality control are just as likely to let mistakes creep through.

*'''"Repackaged" toys are ''literally'' unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, taken out of the old packaging, put into new packaging and then sent back to stores.'''

[[Image:SteamhammerEnergonUniverse.jpg|right|170px|thumb|Not literally a waste of packaging material.]]
:Every so often, a ''Transformers'' toyline features toys that were originally released as part of a previous line, but are neither [[Redeco|redecos]] nor [[Retool|retools]]—they're virtually indistinguishable from the previous release other than the packaging. This happened most frequently during the final stages of the original ''[[Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' line, when it changed from being a line of redecos to a line of straight re-releases of toys from older lines, including Basic/Scout and Deluxe-sized toys from the ''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' and ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' lines, [[Spy Changer|Spychangers]] and even the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' "Ultimate Battle" two-pack, which were available from various "Dollar" store chains such as Dollar General, Family Dollar, Roses, Tuesday Morning or Big Lots.
:It also doesn't help that the [[Toys"R"Us]] [[exclusive]] [[Universe (2008 franchise)|2008 ''Universe'']] [[Unicron]] is a virtually unchanged re-release of ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' Unicron. And, to further complicate matters, on the shelf tags for ''Universe'' Unicron, he is actually called "Armada Unicron."
:Because the common fandom term for those releases was "repackages", a popular misconception claims that those toys are ''literally'' "repackages", namely, unsold toys sent back to Hasbro, who took them out of their old packaging, put them into new packaging and then sent them back to (different) stores.
:Needless to say, that theory is dubious for various reasons: Generally, old unsold toys are ''not'' sent back to Hasbro. They either [[Shelfwarmer|sit on the store shelf]] (or hang on the peg) until someone finally decides to buy them, or the store somehow dumps them. And even ''if'' Hasbro did regularly get sent back huge shipments of unsold toys, they'd rather try to get rid of those toys in the old packaging rather than going through the effort of literally repackaging them.
:In addition, some of the Dollar Store exclusive ''Universe'' Basics and Deluxes were limbs and torsos from the ''Energon'' [[Combiner|combiners]] [[Superion Maximus]], [[Bruticus Maximus (Energon)|Bruticus Maximus]] and [[Constructicon Maximus]]. The ''Energon'' combiners all sold out well, and now demand high prices on the aftermarket (with the exception of the ''Universe'' "repackages", ironically). So it's rather questionable that stores would have kept a huge unsold stock of those toys in numbers large enough to warrant the alleged repackaging business.
:Therefore, the most logical conclusion appears to be that those "repackages" are in fact a brand new production run simply using the same plastic colors and paint masks as the original releases of those toys, which is cheaper to produce (and therefore easier to sell for the lower "Dollar" stores price tags) than designing new decos. Hasbro recently confirmed this, stating that due to the toys being manufactured in Asia, it would be a waste of time and money to repackage them only to sell them at the same price-point.<ref>[http://www.sirstevesguide.com/index.php?categoryid=13&p2_articleid=1934 SirStevesGuide.com, Tri-Weekly Hasbro Q&A - January 30th]</ref>
:This wouldn't be the first misconception based on popular fan terms, however: A common fan term for [[Redeco|redecos]] is "repaints", which has led to the misconception that those toys are ''literally'' toys from a previous production run ''painted over in new colors''. Obviously, however, the fact that most redecos are cast in differently colored plastic should be sufficient evidence for the absurdness of this assumption.

*'''A new toy that is vaguely reminiscent of an older toy is a retool of said toy.'''

[[Image:BumblebeeRRvsSB.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Screen Battles Bumblebee—remolded from scratch (not from Robot Replicas Bumblebee)!]]
:Hasbro like to [[redeco]] toys a lot (usually to recoup the R&D costs for developing the original [[mold]]). They also like to release redecos of toys from older lines in newer lines. In some instances, Hasbro also don't just redeco a toy, they [[retool]] it (or create new toolings for new parts that replace parts of the old version of the toy)—sometimes to improve a feature or fix an error, but sometimes also to give the toy new features or [[Gimmick|gimmicks]], or simply to make it different enough from the original version so owners of the original version would be interested in buying the "retool" as well.
:Some of those retools are comparably minor (such as [[Jazz (Movie)|Final Battle Jazz]] from the [[Movie (toyline)|2007 Movie line]]), whereas others can be pretty elaborate. Sometimes the retools are so elaborate that the line between "retool" and "new [[mold]]" gets blurred. The most drastic instances in this regard would be [[K-9]] from ''[[Beast Wars (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' (based on [[Wolfang (Maximal)|Wolfang]] from the same line) and [[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Dark Crumplezone]] from ''[[Cybertron (toyline)|Cybertron]]'' (based on the original ''Cybertron'' Crumplezone toy), both of which have most, if not ''all'' of their parts entirely retooled. Another borderline case would be the ''[[Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Mini-Con|Mini-Cons]] [[Mirage (Armada)|Mirage]] and [[Swindle (Armada)|Swindle]], which were released around the same time and are based on the same basic design, share a similar body structure and have very similar [[Alternate mode|alternate modes]].

[[Image:SmokesniperStarscream.jpg|right|150px|thumb|The similarities are astounding. Especially those that aren't there.]]
:However, sometimes fans ''definitely'' get too far decrying a new toy a "retool" (or "remold"). Toys that share some superficial design similiarities, coupled with similar transformation schemes, are often mistaken for retools even though they're simply that: Similar toys based on the same general design, maybe even directly influenced by the older toy, but nothing more. Examples:
*Despite their very similar body constructions and transformation schemes, the original ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' [[Bumblebee (G1)/toys|Bumblebee]] and [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] toys are ''not'' retools of each other. And neither is [[Bumper (G1)|Bumper]] a retool of Cliffjumper. ([[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]], however, ''is'' a retool of Cliffjumper.)
*Likewise, the [[Battlecharger|Battlechargers]] [[Runabout]] and [[Runamuck (G1)|Runamuck]] aren't retools of each other either.
*And neither are the [[Jumpstarter|Jumpstarters]] [[Topspin (G1)|Topspin]] and [[Twin Twist]] retools of each other.
*''[[Energon (toyline)|Energon]]'' [[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]] is not a retool of ''[[Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Smokescreen (G2)|Smokescreen]], even though he was obviously inspired by the latter.
*Some fans actually seriously believed that ''[[Alternators]]'' [[Jazz (G1)|Meister]] is a retool of [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]. (To be fair, the two actually share the same ''hand'' sculpts.)
*''Cybertron'' [[Hardtop (Cybertron)|Hardtop]] is not even ''remotely'' a "retool" of the ''Energon'' [[Sledge (Energon)|Sledge]]/[[Bonecrusher (Energon)|Bonecrusher]] mold.
*The legless [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] figure included with the Screen Battles "Final Stand" set from the 2007 [[Movie (toyline)|Movie line]] is not a retool of [[Robot Replicas]] Bumblebee.

*'''Hasbro lost the copyright to a lot of G1 Transformers names. That is why you see toys named "Autobot Jazz" or "Decepticon Brawl" these days. Takara is more competent than Hasbro and doesn't need to change their toys' names.'''
: First of all, this is not "copyright". Copyright refers to the expression of ideas. For example, the backstory for the Transformers, the specific plot of a comic or a TV episode are protected by copyright. The names these stories are sold under, however, are protected by [[trademark]]. The same also applies to the names toys are sold under.
:That being said, there are indeed a few instances where another company has snatched a trademark, making it unavilable for Hasbro for the time being. The reason for that is because trademarks need to be consistently used in commerce (at least once every year or so), or the trademark can be considered "abandoned", making it open for grabs. [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] is unavailable to [[Hasbro]] because Mattel holds several similar trademarks, [[Bluestreak]] is too similar to Gendron's "Toledo 'Blue Streak'" trademark, and a company named Lanard held the trademark "Shockwave" until a few years ago. This prompted Hasbro to use substitute names for toys based on these characters, such as "Rodimus Major" or simply "Rodimus" for Hot Rod, "Silverstreak" for Bluestreak and "Shockblast" for Shockwave (unlike the other two, Hasbro has since managed to reacquire the "Shockwave" trademark).
:Meanwhile, the names with prefixes such as "Autobot" or "Decepticon"? Those are usually non-compound single real words from the English language. Hasbro's legal department considers them too "generic" to be easily defendable as trademarks, hence the addition of prefixes such as "Autobot Jazz", "Decepticon Brawl "or "Constructicon Devastator" for better protection. This does ''not'' work with names already trademarked by another company–otherwise, [[Bandai]] could release a toy named "Megazord Optimus Prime" tomorrow, and Hasbro couldn't do anything about it.
:For a while, it seemed like these trademark quibbles wre limited to Hasbro, and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] was somehow exempt due to different conditions in Japanese trademark law. However, the ''[[Classics (2006)#Henkei! Henkei!|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' line saw the emergence of quite a few "Cybertron", "Destron" and "[[Stunticon (G1)|Stuntron]]" prefixes, and for the ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen toyline]]'', Takara even uses "Autobot" and "Decepticon" prefixes the Hasbro versions of those toys ''don't'' have.

*'''Hasbro is responsible for your local store not having the newest toys right now.'''
: Hasbro actually has almost nothing to do with distribution (when Product A arrives in Store B) beyond making sure the manufactured product leaves the factories and shipyards of China at the desired time. Once the items arrive on US shores, they are almost immediately sent from the ships to the distribution centers for the retail chains that ordered them. From there, it's more truck rides to various regional warehouses, which is all controlled by the retailers, not Hasbro. After that, the schedule for taking product from those warehouses and putting it on shelves is dictated by each chain's inventory system.
: It's ''conceivable'' that Hasbro could take more control of the situation, but that would require chains like Wal-Mart to release the vise-like death grip they have on manufacturers' nuts that lets them dictate how the system works—and they're sooooooo not doing that.

*'''Hasbro should totally cater to the wishes of older collectors, as they purchase the most Transformers product.'''
: Fans would like to think they've got some sway over the direction of the [[Transformers brand]]. After all, they've been buying toys for many years (as opposed to the limited purchasing span of most children), and they buy many ''more'' toys than any individual child. And in truth, Hasbro does pay attention to the desires and discussions of its older buyers, even designing certain line segments like [[Alternators]] and [[Classics (2006)|''Classics'']] with collectors as the primary target audience.
: Collectors, however, simply can't compare to the vast numbers of children out there whose parents buy Transformers for them. The bulk of Transformers product is purchased for and/or by young children, and if it wants to stay in business and keep making money (and by extension, more toys), Hasbro must design and market its products accordingly. No accurate figures exist on the collector/children ratio, but estimates mentioned at BotCon panels range from around 10% to 20% of all purchases coming from older collectors—enough to be worth listening to, but not at all the driving force behind the brand. Past toylines have shown that betting ''too much'' on sales from adult collectors can be disastrous.
: Furthermore, it's not as though the fans speak with a unified voice. More often, for every fan pushing for one particular idea, there's another fan who thinks that same idea is boring or awful.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1===
====The original cartoon====
*'''The original ''The Transformers'' series was redubbed anime which originated in Japan, just like ''Battle of the Planets'', ''Voltron'', ''Robotech'' and other such shows screened in the '80s.'''
: Although most moderate-to-hardcore fans are well aware that this is a fallacy, there are those more casual fans (or those who have not rewatched the Generation 1 cartoon since childhood) who are under the misconception that [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''The Transformers'']] was an anime.
: Although the original toyline and thus the characters' basic visual designs were taken from Japanese-originated products, the original characters, names, factions and entire story premise of the whole ''Transformers'' franchise were developed in the United States by [[Hasbro]], [[Marvel Comics|Marvel]] and eventually [[Sunbow Productions|Sunbow]]. Although the animation was farmed out, the writing and original voice recording of [[The Transformers (cartoon)|all four seasons of the original series]] plus ''[[The Transformers: The Movie|The Movie]]'' were entirely done in America.
: This misconception probably stems from distant childhood memories of the cartoon, coupled with the later realization that shows like the aforementioned ''Robotech'' were redubbed anime (presuming they didn't know this when they were kids) and, due to ''Transformers''' obvious Japanese influence, have made the assumption that it too was anime. This ''may'' also be due to passing exposure to ''[[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|Robots in Disguise]]'' and the [[Unicron Trilogy]] shows which, viewed as an adult, are ''very'' obviously redubbed anime.
: This is in part related to the misconception that '''all''' ''Transformers'' toys are ''solely'' designed, developed and manufactured by [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], and all [[Hasbro]] ever does is to put them in new packaging and distribute them on the Western market (see above). Because this is true for other Japanese robot toylines, and therefore it must also apply to ''Transformers''.

*'''''The Headmasters'' was going to be dubbed into English and shown in America.'''
: In America, "Season 4" consisted of "The Rebirth", a 3-episode mini-series. In Japan, "The Rebirth" was ignored, and a full-fledged series titled ''The Headmasters'' continued the story instead. Rumors once swirled in the fandom of an American-led dub of ''The Headmasters'' series; the dub was largely finished, goes the story, till the materials were lost in a warehouse fire.
: Given the meandering pace of the series (common for Japanese shows but anathema to American sensibilities), the presence of numerous characters who had no toy equivalent on US shelves, the incompatibility with the "[[Nebulan]]" head characters, the number of Japanese cultural references, and the very existence of "[[The Transformers (cartoon)|The Rebirth]]", this rumor seems unlikely on the surface.
: More to the point, no official confirmation or other evidence has ever surfaced to back it up. In all likelihood the rumor was probably a [[wikipedia:Chinese_whispers|Chinese Whisper]] from the fact that the Malay English language [[Omni Productions]] dub {or "Star TV" dub) was screened on UK satellite TV during the 1990s.

====The Transformers: The Movie====
*'''There exists an "uncut version" of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' containing all sorts of non-kid-friendly content.'''
: These stories stem mainly from the fact that many home-video releases of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' omit two relatively minor instances of characters using profanity, which during the 1990s resulted in some [[alt.toys.transformers]] posters advertising "uncut" VHS copies of the movie for sale, thus either intentionally or unintentionally creating the myth of a really foul-mouthed and ultra-violent alternate version of ''The Transformers: The Movie''. At least one poster claimed to have uncut reels of the original film showing a number of violent scenes, but, unsurprisingly, was unwilling to provide any form of proof. So have ended all claims of uncut footage from the film.
: Also two additions were made for the British release of the movie: The opening credits were replaced by a ''Star Wars'' style text scroll complete with narration, whilst the last scene of the Movie has an additional voice over declaring that the Transformers' adventures will continue and Optimus Prime will return. These additions have been seen in other international versions of the Movie but are less well known in the US.

[[Image:TFTM dead gray Prime.jpg|right|180px|thumb|Traumatizing enough as it is, frankly.]]
:A much stranger rumor, whose origins are unclear, claims that the original theatrical cut of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' depicted [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] crumbling into dust after dying, and that that scene was cut by the distributor in mid-release because children were traumatized by the imagery. Interestingly, the "Death of Optimus Prime" track on the original soundtrack album does contain ten extra seconds of music. At the end, just before the song's final low-octave percussion sequence, there is a very distinct series of notes that appears nowhere else in the song and is not in the onscreen version. However, no other evidence of this "lost" animation sequence exists among the many storyboards, preliminary animations, interviews, varying formats, etc., that have come to light.
:The myth could be related to the death of Starscream, a few scenes later, where Starscream '''does''' indeed crumble to dust after being shot by Galvatron; time and distance could lead fans to confuse the two scenes.
:These claims should not be confused with the extra storyboarded scenes which have come to light over the years. A number of scenes were planned out at the storyboarding stage, but no evidence exists that they were ever animated. Given the expense of producing full animation, it is unlikely they ever made it past the level of storyboards.
::''See also: [[The Transformers: The Movie#Trivia and controversies]].''

*'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was never released in Japan.'''
: A widespread (but false) assumption among Western fans holds that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' is not part of Japanese Generation 1 [[canon]], and that ''[[Scramble City]]'' was effectively its Japanese replacement. ''The Transformers: The Movie'' went unreleased in Japan until August 1989, and the various discrepancies between it and subsequent Japan-only Generation 1 fiction are largely a matter of the Japanese animators and writers being unaware of the precise details of ''The Transformers: The Movie''.<ref>http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&postid=216153#post216153</ref><ref>http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?s=&postid=216478#post216478</ref><ref>http://tfarchive.com/community/showthread.php?threadid=30800</ref>

*'''''The Transformers: The Movie'' was released in Japan under the title ''Matrix Forever''.'''
: ''[[Matrix Forever]]'' was actually the title of a 20-minute video created to promote the Japanese release of ''The Transformers: The Movie'', but some Western (and even Japanese) fans have been confused into thinking that ''The Transformers: The Movie'' itself was renamed ''Matrix Forever''.<ref>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/a5d29844863d2c29</ref>

====Japanese Generation 1 fiction====
*'''In Japanese continuity, Megatron and Galvatron are two separate characters.'''
:There are a few instances of Japanese fiction (and advertising) that would seem to support this notion, all of which can be attributed to a lack of communication between [[Hasbro]] and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] prior to the release of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. All of them were ultimately ignored by the "primary" fiction, namely as the (dubbed) third season of the cartoon (named ''Transformers: 2010'' in Japan) and the accompanying manga, which followed the Western story concept of Galvatron being a reformatted [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]].
:There is also a ''Transformers: 2010'' [[manga]] story that depicts [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] commanding a legion of automatons created in [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s image, which some non-Japanese-speaking fans have interpreted as depicting Galvatron and Megatron co-existing.<ref>http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=179</ref>

*'''In Japanese continuity, the Destrons (Decepticons) were invaders from a planet called Destron.'''
: The [[Autobot|Autobots]] were renamed "Cybertrons" in the Japanese translation, resulting in a misconception that the Destrons ([[Decepticon|Decepticons]]) must hail from somewhere other than the planet [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. However, the Japanese translation also used slightly different spellings for the faction, "Cybertron" (literally: サイバトロン, "Sa-i-ba-to-ro-n"), and the planet, (literally: セイバートロン, "Se-i-baa-to-ro-n"), commonly interpreted as "Seibertron" by Western fans, in order to avoid confusion, even though both words originally started out based on the English name "Cybertron".<ref name="tfa522">[http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 The Transformers Archive essay about various urban legends surrounding the Transformers franchise]</ref>
:This rumor presumably originates from an article a Thomas Wheeler had written for ''Attic's Collectible Toys and Values Monthly'' during the hiatus between the [[The Transformers (toyline)|G1]] and [[Generation 2 (toyline)|G2]] toylines. According to that article, Hasbro chose not to follow this element of the story because of the similarity between the term "Destron" and G.I. Joe's "Destro" character. Of course, seeing as the story originated in America to begin with and was only dubbed into Japanese later on, this doesn't make a lot of sense. More recently, Wheeler has been writing toy reviews for Master Collector's website, which occasionally also display a certain lack of knowledge about various toys and the ''Transformers'' brand's overall history, so it doesn't seem entirely out of place for him.

*'''Black Shadow and Blue Bacchus are both members of a "Space Mafia".'''
:[[Black Shadow]] and [[Blue Bacchus]], two characters from ''[[Victory (franchise)|Victory]]'', both have their function listed as "Space Gangster". An early fan translation of their on-package [[Bio|bios]] misinterpreted the Japanese word for "gangster" to mean "Mafia", hence the belief that a "Space Mafia" exists in the Japanese Generation 1 universe.

*'''Metrotitan is a zombie version of Metroplex.'''
: [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]] was a Destron [[redeco]] of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] from the ''[[Zone (franchise)|Zone]]'' portion of Japanese Generation 1 continuity. For unclear reasons, Western fans believe that Metrotitan was a "zombified" version of Metroplex, and a stranger variation on this rumor holds that Metrotitan was somehow "regrown" from one of Metroplex's legs.<ref name="tfa522" />

====European Generation 1 fiction====
*'''Starscream and Shrapnel are female characters in the French dub of Generation 1.'''
: This rumor is only partly true. The [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Transformers'' cartoon]] used three different dub teams for the French version: one for the TV show's dub broadcast in Quebec, one for the TV show's dub broadcast in France and one for the [[The Transformers: The Movie|1986 movie]] used in both countries. Neither of the TV show's dubs use [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] as a female as he uses a distinctively male voice,<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhOCYZRxypM YouTube: Doublage de France: Combaticons et Égo]</ref><ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMXCeXw5Vdo Doublage Québécois: Égo et Dr. Croc-en-ville]</ref> however the movie's dubbing team used a female voice for Starscream, and at one point [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] calls Starscream "une imbécile" (articles in French are gender-specific), clearly cementing Starscream's movie status as a female.<ref>http://bigbot.com/mp3/transformers_mp3.shtml#Femmes</ref> (Although let's face it, he might just be insulting Starscream.) All the same is also true for [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]], who is even referred to as "Mademoiselle Shrapnel" by [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] in the movie.

*'''The German version of ''The Transformers: The Movie'' was edited and didn't depict Starscream's death scene.'''
: German TV didn't air a dubbed version of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|''Generation 1'' cartoon]] until 1989. ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'' was aired for the first time on German TV in 1994, with only one repeat. For unknown reasons, a rumor was circulating for several years claiming that [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream's]] death was considered too "violent" for German TV standards for children's programs and had therefore been edited out.<ref>[http://www.ofdb.de/view.php?page=fassung&fid=7489&vid=38680 German movie database ''still'' listing the rumor about Starscream's "edited death" in TF:TM]</ref> However, recordings of the TV airing still exist, which don't feature any obvious edits other than [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike's]] infamous "swear" line. Furthermore, a German DVD edition of the movie released in 2004 that features an entirely different dub also depicts Starscream's death in all its glory.

*'''An Earthforce story was written to promote the non-combining Constructicon toys.'''
:The comic story "[[Desert Island Risks!]]" from issue 264 of the [[Marvel Comics|Marvel UK]] [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|G1 comic]] reveals that the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] have somehow lost their ability to combine into [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. As a result, they try to build another Devastator as a new robot.

:Some fans mistakenly believe that this is somehow related to a re-release of the Constructicons (now in yellow) that were available in [[Generation 1 Europe (toyline)|Europe]] after the ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' toyline had ended in the USA. Those Constructicons omitted the extra parts necessary to form Devastator; and furthermore, [[Hook (G1)|Hook]] and [[Scavenger (G1)|Scavenger]] (neither of them officially named in this version; all six toys came on multi-purpose cardbacks simply named "Constructicon") were [[retool|retooled]] to omit the tabs that were necessary for combining them (and [[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]]) when forming Devastator. Since the toys couldn't combine into Devastator anymore, fans believe that the [[Earthforce]] comic story was intended to serve as an "explanation" for this.

:The problem with this theory, however, is that the yellow "Euro" Constructicon toys were released in 1992; the comic story, however, had already come out in early 1990. If anything, "Desert Island Risks!" was based on the [[Action Master]] version of Devastator, which no longer consisted of six individual Constructicons.

===Beast Wars===
*'''In Japanese ''Beast Wars'' continuity, Optimus Primal and Megatron were the same characters as their Generation 1 namesakes.'''
: Although the Japanese dub of the ''[[Beast Wars (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' cartoon originally did state that [[Optimus Primal|Primal]] and [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] were new incarnations of the Generation 1 faction leaders (possibly due to a communications breakdown with Hasbro and/or [[Mainframe Entertainment|Mainframe]]), the translators eventually backed away from that idea.<ref>http://www.bwtf.com/bw/toys/techspecs/primalultra.shtml</ref><ref>http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=180" rel="nofollow</ref>

*'''In ''Beast Wars II'', Apache is a drunkard as part of a Native American stereotype.'''
: [[Apache]] did indeed get drunk in the first episode of the ''[[Beast Wars II (franchise)|Beast Wars II]]'' cartoon, but only in grief, believing (erroneously) that his actions earlier had caused the death of [[Lio Convoy]] (which didn't happen). He did not get drunk again for the duration of the cartoon, nor did he ever do so in the manga. Outside of that, the Native American stereotype "common" to Japanese fictions is a stoic, silent, and often mystical warrior—none of which could be used to describe Apache accurately at all.
: That's not to say there aren't [[Jointron|some ethnic stereotypes]] in BWII that could be considered pretty offensive.
: Amusingly enough, in the sixth installment of the [[Beast Wars II (manga)|''Beast Wars II'' manga]], ''Lio Convoy'' gets drunk for no apparent reason and ends up trashing Apache's room.

===Beast Machines===
*'''A ''Beast Machines'' writer said, "Real heroes don't use guns."'''
:''Beast Machines'' was the first (but not the last) ''Transformers'' series to explicitly avoid all hand-held projectile [[Weapon|weaponry]]. While the [[Vehicon (BM)|villains]] still had traditional "blasters" mounted on their bodies, some of the [[Maximal|heroes]]' weapons were more esoteric (such as [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]'s energy-web attack, activated by putting her hands on the ground, or [[Optimus Primal]]'s gauntlets, powered by absorbing enemy fire). According to story editor [[Bob Skir]], this creative decision was agreed upon between the story editors, [[Fox Kids]], [[Mainframe Entertainment]], and [[Hasbro]],<ref name="Skir">[http://www.bigbot.com/beast-machines-transformers-bob-skir/Beast-Machines-FAQ/Sat_06_Nov_1999.html Archived Q&A from Bob Skir's now-defunct website,] where Skir responds to the gun controversy (question 7).</ref> and it is indeed reflected in the toys as well.

:Note that many Maximals had weaponry that was functionally no different from a "gun"--compare [[Botanica]]'s hip-mounted energy cannons, [[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]]'s back-mounted sonic blaster, or Optimus Primal's chest-mounted energy disc launcher to [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]]'s shoulder-mounted ray guns or [[Strika (BM)|Strika]]'s wrist-mounted energy... tossing thingies.

:On his website, Skir also elaborated on his own position as a writer choosing if or how to portray gun use, including this statement: "Our heroes use their wiles and resourcefulness, plus a few cool weapons. Guns? I've never been a fan of them myself, and do not write heroes who need them."<ref>[http://members.aol.com/zobovor/guns.html Article on the fan Dave "Zobovor" Edwards' personal site,] quoting Bob Skir's original gun statement.</ref> Some fans interpreted Skir as condemning ''all'' gun use, even in the real world, no matter the circumstances. This led to the misquote, "Real heroes don't use guns,"<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/be5e55a90df944bb/b748601b997b3508#b748601b997b3508 Alt.toys.transformers thread] with the misquote and attendant assumptions right at the start.</ref> which remains a notoriously persistent error in the fandom. Skir, responding to the controversy, said on his site that "there '''are''' heroes who '''do''' need guns (such as the Punisher). Spider-Man doesn't need guns. Neither does the Hulk. And neither do Optimus, Cheetor, Black Arachnia, et al."<ref name="Skir" />
:Notably, the [[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|series]] [[Unicron Trilogy|immediately]] [[Movie (franchise)|following]] ''Beast Machines'' did return to classic hand-held gun use among both heroes and villains. However, the more recent ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' series has again eschewed guns, probably because of its younger target audience.

===Robots in Disguise===
*'''The Japanese ''Car Robots'' cartoon was a direct sequel to ''Beast Wars Neo''.'''
: Some fans seem to have concluded, based on the similar animation style and overall tone, that the [[Robots in Disguise (cartoon)|''Car Robots'' cartoon]] was meant to pick up where ''[[Beast Wars Neo (cartoon)|Beast Wars Neo]]'' had left off, but all indications are that ''Car Robots'' wasn't meant to take place in any pre-existing TF continuity. But now Takara says it's in the Generation 1 continuity. Along with the 2007 movie. Oooookay.<ref>http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=490</ref>

===Transformers (2007)===
*'''''Transformers'' was nearly rated R by the MPAA.'''
: In the spring of 2007, it was reported that ''[[wikipedia:Disturbia|Disturbia]]'', a then-upcoming [[DreamWorks]] film starring [[Shia LaBeouf]] and produced by [[Steven Spielberg]], had received an R rating from the [[wikipedia:Motion_Picture_Association_of_America|Motion Picture Association of America]]. That film's rating was eventually lowered to PG-13 on appeal, but in the meantime some ''Transformers'' fans became confused and believed that it was ''[[Transformers (2007)|Transformers]]'' that had been rated R, leading to some heated discussion on ''Transformers'' message boards.

*'''Brawl is named in the credits.'''

[[Image:MovieCreditsNoBrawl.jpg|right|150px|thumb|Invisible credit.]]
: There's a huge controversy surrounding the name of the Decepticon tank, who was named "[[Brawl (Movie)|Brawl]]" in [[Hasbro|Hasbro's]] [[Movie (toyline)|toy line]] but "Devastator" in a subtitle in the movie itself. Both Hasbro and the screenwriters, [[Alex Kurtzman]] and [[Roberto Orci]], have expressedly favored the toy's name, referring to the name in the movie as an "error".
: Since the character has a "speaking" line in the movie (which sounds an ''awful'' lot like a garbled "''Brawl'' reporting"), fans keep claiming that the voice actor is named in the ending credits, and the character's name is stated as "Brawl" there. In fact, however, there's no credit ''at all'' for the character, under either name, as he has no voice actor.

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*'''The Decepticons' hologram is Tom Banachek.'''

[[Image:BanachekMustacheMan.jpg|right|150px|thumb|One of these is not like the others.]]
: Several Decepticons in the movie ([[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]], [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]) are seen using a holographic "pilot"/"driver" based on the same mustache-clad human, only wearing different clothes matching the Decepticons' respective [[Alternate mode|alternate modes]].
: Since [[Tom Banachek]], the head of [[Sector Seven]]'s Advanced Research Division, also sports a mustache, many fans mistakenly believe that the Decepticons' hologram is meant to look like Banachek.
: There's only one problem with that: The "[[Moustache Man]]" (the Decepticons' hologram) is played by a real-life United States Air Force Major named [[Brian Reece]], whereas Tom Banachek is portrayed by established actor [[Michael O'Neill]].
: In essence, this is a phenomenon ''Lost'' fans [http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Apophenia#Forced_Connections should be awfully familiar with].

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===Revenge of the Fallen===

*'''Barricade's return?'''
:A common misconception among fans is that [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade's]] Saleen Mustang alternate mode was spotted on the set of ''[[Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''. In fact, however, a truck transporting three "Barricade" prop vehicles was spotted in Culver City, California, in March 2008, more than ''two months'' before principal shooting for ''Revenge of the Fallen'' started.<ref name="vehspotted">[http://www.superherohype.com/news/transformersnews.php?id=6980 Superhero Hype reporting on the spotting of Barricade vehicles in March 2008]</ref>
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==Companies==
*'''Takara was taken over by Tomy'''
:In 2005, it was announced that Takara, longtime Japanese manufacturer/distributor of Transformers toys, and former competitor Tomy would merge into a new company, named [[TakaraTomy]], as of March 1, 2006. Some fans misinterpreted the media coverage, believing that Takara had been bought out by rival Tomy. This was not helped by official press releases declaring Tomy the "surviving company", Tomy having the majority of shares, and the merged company simply going by the name "Tomy" outside Japan.
:The name issue is easily explained, as it was done for purely pragmatic reasons. "Tomy" is an internationally established brand, since the company already had divisions in many other countries prior to the merger, and distributed their toys under their own name there. Takara, meanwhile, had mostly abandoned ventures into international markets years ago, and had its products distributed through other companies (such as [[Hasbro]]) instead. Thereby, the merged company decided to use the better-known name for its international business, while it would continue as "TakaraTomy" within Japan itself.
:Now, as for the specifics of the merger... Although the merger ratio was set at 0.356 of a Tomy share for each Takara share (including a split of Tomy's stock), and the companies announced a layoff of 15% of their combined workforce mostly on the Takara side, the term "merger" (as compared to "take-over") was prominently used in all the official announcements by the two companies, and twisting tiny details into a de facto "takeover" of Takara by Tomy is effectively splitting hairs.

*'''e-Hobby is owned by Takara (TakaraTomy)'''
:The [[e-Hobby]] shop is owned by Part One, Ltd. Although the company has had close ties with Takara for decades, the online store also sells toys by other companies, primarily TakaraTomy's rival [[Bandai]].
:The online store ''directly'' owned by TakaraTomy, meanwhile, is [[Toy Hobby Market]].

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=522 Ten popular but incorrect rumors about Japanese Transformers]

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Grand Maximus

2009-11-17T21:52:19Z

Mazenoise:

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:''Grand Maximus is an [[Autobot]] [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] [[Pretender]] [[City-bot]] from the [[Super-God Masterforce (franchise)|Super-God Masterforce]] portion of the [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Continuity family|continuity family]].''

[[Image:Grandmax cartoon.jpg|right|350px|thumb|]]
'''Grand Maximus''' is the younger [[Relatives|brother]] of [[Autobot]] [[Supreme Commander]] [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]. He was among the Autobot refugees who fled [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] four million years ago under the leadership of his brother, and like his sibling, became a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] when they crash-landed on the planet [[Master (planet)|Master]]. Grand Maximus's mental functions are contained in his smallest component, '''Gran''', who connects to a larger [[Transtector]] named '''Grand''' to boost his strength to normal Transformer levels. Just like his bro, he pilots a ''Maximus'' battleship, with serves as a second, immense Transtector with which Grand combines to form "Grand Maximus".

Grand seems to be a bit of a loner, who prefers the solitude of outer space to being tied down to any one planet or team. After becoming a Headmaster, he opted not to remain on Master with the other Transformers, joining up with a group of Autobots under the command of [[Metalhawk]] and travelling space with them. Alongside Metalhawk's crew, Grand crash-landed on Neolithic [[Earth]] and adopted [[Pretender]] capabilities, endowing himself with the ability to transform into a human form. After centuries of working with Metalhawk to battle a group of Decepticons on Earth and guide the evolution of the burgeoning humanity, however, Grand again felt the lure of outer space, and now operates among the space-based Autobot forces battling the Decepticons across [[Athenia]] and [[Chaar]].

:''English-Malay dub name: '' '''Fortress Maximus'''

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====''Super God Masterforce'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Ikuya Sawaki]] (Japanese)

[[Image:Grand pretender.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Behold! With my pretender shell, I can disguise myself as... a robot. Wait, why did I bother again?]]
In the early 21st Century, when the space-based Autobot forces under the command of Fortress Maximus discovered that [[Scorponok (G1)|BlackZarak]]
was headed for Earth, Grand Maximus was dispatched to alert Metalhawk's
Autobots, still on the planet. Entering Earth's atmosphere with his
battleship cloaked from sight, Grand met with Metalhawk, [[Lander]] and [[Diver (Masterforce)|Diver]] atop a mountain, where he supplied them with the plans and materials to construct "[[Godbomber]]". This drone would endow the Autobots' mightiest warrior, [[Ginrai]], with the ability to fly and fight in space, thereby allowing him to stop BlackZarak before he reached Earth. {{storylink|Life? Death? Lightfoot Must Choose}}
Grand Maximus subsequently headed back into space to keep an eye on the
situation, and as the "Bomber Project" was nearing completion, Grand
radioed the Autobots on Earth to inform them that BlackZarak was headed
for the [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. {{storylink|God Ginrai - Into the Sky!!}} With the construction of Godbomber complete, Ginrai wasted no time in heading for the moon and engaging BlackZarak and [[Overlord (G1)|Overlord]]
in battle. Ginrai did not fare well, but soon Grand Maximus arrived to
join the fight, and with their combined might, the Autobot duo was able
to defeat the two Decepticons. BlackZarak fled back into space, and
Grand Maximus gave chase, assuring Ginrai that he could take care of
things. {{storylink|God Ginrai - Showdown on the Surface of the Moon}}

[[Image:Grandmax shipmode.jpg|right|220px|thumb|New Battleship Maximus - no really, that's what it's called]]
In the weeks that followed, BlackZarak mastered the art of localized
gravity manipulation, enabling him to create powerful black holes that
he could use to teleport himself around the galaxy. While pursuing his
foe, Grand Maximus was trapped within one of these black holes,
exerting all his energy just to hold steady against its pull and
prevent himself from being drawn into the heart of the singularity and
obliterated. Down on Earth, meanwhile, the Decepticon had succeeded in
destroying the Autobots' base, prompting Ginrai to contact Grand in
hopes that his battleship could be employed as a new headquarters. When
Grand, trapped in the black hole, did not respond to his communiqué,
Ginrai headed into space to investigate, only to be pulled into the
black hole as well and wind up trapped alongside Grand. Luckily, the
pair were able to draw on the electromagnetic waves of the black hole
to re-energize themselves, and they then combined their energy into a
massive blast of [[Chōkon Power]]
that destroyed the black hole from the inside out. Freed, the pair
immediately headed to Earth, where BlackZarak had already joined up
with the Decepticons and cut a swathe of destruction across the planet.
Merging their energies once more, Grand and Ginrai were able to defeat
Overlord and BlackZarak again, and the villains pulled out of the
fight. {{storylink|BlackZarak - Destroyer from Space}}

[[Image:Grand cartoon.jpg|left|142px|thumb|Blink and you'll miss him.]]
While the Autobots were searching Earth for the Decepticons, Grand
Maximus detected the villains heading into space, and transported the
Autobots in pursuit of them aboard his battleship. The Autobots
discovered that the Decepticons were preparing to unleash the deadly [[Death Para-Machine]]
against Earth, but thankfully, Ginrai was able to destroy the evil
device before irreparable damage was done to the planet's atmosphere.
As it exploded, however, a single blast escaped the Death-Para Machine
and struck Grand's battleship, knocking its tachyon converter offline
and sending it plummeting down to Earth. [[Shūta Gō|Shūta]]
risked his life to save the day by donning one of the ship's jetpacks
and repairing the converter, rescuing the ship at the lat moment. {{storylink|Crisis! The Day of the Downfall of Humanity}}

[[Image:Godginrai vs blackzarak.jpg|right|220px|thumb|Left leg blue, right fist black...]]
Grand Maximus later battled BlackZarak in [[Moscow]], {{storylink|God Ginrai: Showdown at the Decepticon Base}}
and then transported the Autobots aboard his battleship for a
full-scale assault on the Decepticon base, during which BlackZarak and
the Decepticon ruler [[Devil Z]] fused into one being. {{storylink|The Ultimate Combination!! BlackZarak, the New Lifeform}} The merged BlackZarak/Devil Z entity soon began bombarding North America with his [[Devil Power]], which Grand Maximus traced to the [[Grand Canyon]]. {{storylink|Battle to the Death!! God Ginrai VS Darkwings Reborn}}
There, Ginrai was again confronted by Overlord, but Grand Maximus ended
the protracted battle by blasting Overlord out of the sky so that
Ginrai could focus on more important matters. The Decepticons retreated
before the battle could go any further {{storylink|Autobots! Desperate Attack!!}} but the Autobots quickly pursued them to the Matterhorn, where Grand Maximus held back to protect the injured Metalhawk and [[Headmaster Junior]]s while Ginrai engaged BlackZarak in final battle. {{storylink|Malevolent and Inhuman! The True Form of Devil Z}}
As Ginrai clashed with BlackZarak, Grand lent his aid by opening fire
on the villain, but was blasted out of the sky when he was distracted
by the sight of Overlord's Transtector being brought to life by Devil
Z's power. As the now-living Overlord attempted to join BlackZarak's
battle with Ginrai, Grand Maximus transformed to robot mode and kept
him occupied while Ginrai used his Final Fire Guts attack to finally
destroy both BlackZarak and Devil Z. With the death of the villain, all
the Autobots' Transtectors were also brought to life, and Grand Maximus
soon transported them back into space to rejoin their respective
factions. {{storylink|A Battle... and Then...}}
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====''Zone'' cartoon====
Grand Maximus was seen onstage among other high-ranking Autobots when the injured [[Star Saber (Victory)|Victory Saber]] passed the mantle of Supreme Commander to [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]]. {{storylink|Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!}}

===''Super-God Masterforce'' comic===
[[Image:Grandmax manga.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Insert random white space here]]
After the Earth and space-based Autobot forces consolidated their
power to battle the Decepticons on both fronts, Grand Maximus joined
with [[Raiden]], [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], [[Brainstorm]], [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] and [[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]]
in pursuing Decepticon commander BlackZarak to Earth. Although the
Headmasters didn't fare too well in battle with the mighty Decepticon,
God Ginrai arrived to defeat BlackZarak and send him fleeing back into
space. {{storylink|God Ginrai's Amazing Super-God Combination!}}

When Decepticons kidnapped Shūta and Cab, Grand Maximus was occupied battling BlackZarak and [[Darkwings]] in space with the Autobot [[Godmaster]]s,
but was able to make it to Earth to help Ginrai battle Overlord during
the rescue mission. Grand didn't beat around the bush, crashing his
battleship straight into Overlord's face, and then giving Ginrai his
Master Blade, with which he sent the villain fleeing. {{storylink|The Earth Family of Good and Evil}}

[[Image:MFpretendershell bigmode.jpg|right|220px|thumb|Make my monster grow!]]
Grand Maximus and the Autobots were required to depart Earth aboard
Grand's battleship when the space-based Autobot forces developed a new
weapon known as the [[VX Bomb]],
and the Decepticons initiated a major attack in their absence. Grand
Maximus sped back to Earth with the VX Bomb on board, and he and the
Godmasters occupied BlackZarak while Ginrai used the weapon to defeat
Overlord. {{storylink|Live? Die?! The Desperate Super-God Combination}}

During a Decepticon attack on a city, Grand Maximus transported
the Autobots into battle, but then surprised everyone when he took an
unexpected, unconventional hand in the fight by transforming into his
human form ''without'' shrinking down. After defeating Overlord and
BlackZarak with a "Big Mode Pretender Shell Power Kick," Grand
explained to the surprised Ginrai that, in ancient times, the
Pretenders did not shrink when they adopted their human forms,
remaining gigantic and inspiring legends of giants among early man.
Back then, Grand opined, mankind learned from the Transformers, but
now, Transformers and mankind were truly equals. {{storylink|Great Turn-Around! Autobots}}

[[Image:Grand and gran.jpg|left|180px|thumb|My mini-me ''is'' me.]]
During Ginrai's final battle with the Decepticons, the villains'
evil ruler Devil Z turned upon his minions, seeking to drain their
Jinchōkon in order to become the ultimate lifeform. The Autobot
Pretenders arrived in time to save them, with Grand Maximus and the
whole Autobot force in tow. The Decepticons joined with the Autobots
against Devil Z, and both armies boarded Grand Maximus, combining their
energies in the "Perfect Transform Attack." Charged with the energies
of all the Transformers, Grand Maximus collided with Devil Z,
destroying the evil alien once and for all. With Devil Z's death, all
the Autobots' Transtectors came to life as true super-robot lifeforms,
and Grand led them all off Earth to rejoin the Autobots and Decepticons
in space. {{storylink|The Birth of the Super Lifeforms}}

==Toys==
===''Super God Masterforce''===
*'''Grand Maximus''' (1988)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-311'''[[Image:Grandmax toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|All he needs is a [[Micromaster]], [[Powermaster]] and a [[Targetmaster]] and he'll be PERFECT.]]
**''Accessories:'' Gran Headmaster figure, Grand Headmaster Transtector, Grand's Pretender Shell, Onomus, Koka, "Proton Master Rifle", "Dual Laser Cannon", Grand's "Heat Blaster", Cog's laser rifle, 2 "Laser Arms", "Master Radar", "Master Blade", "Grand Sword"

: As a [[Redeco|redeco]] of Fortress Maximus, Grand Maximus shares the title of largest Transformer toy ever at two feet tall. Grand Maximus transforms from robot to city to battleship, with a wide array of pop-out (non-firing) guns and gimmicks available in all modes. His left leg hides a small prison cell, plus has a swing-out cannon/helipad. His right leg has a small "medical bay" storage compartment. His torso has a gear-activated spinner for the detachable radar array accessory, a "control socket" for Grand's "communications tower" mode, and a working elevator that can lift small toys up to the central ramp to be launched in his altmodes. (The crank for this elevator ends up in a very unfortunate position in robot mode.) Each arm had a long ramp on the back with sliding launchers for small vehicles.

: Grand Maximus' head can be removed and transformed into a robot called Grand. This component also transforms into a communications room that combines with Grand Maximus' city and battleship modes. Grand can additionally fit inside an included pretender shell. This shell, unlike most other Autobot shells, was robotic in appearance rather than human, although ''Masterforce'' fiction gave the figure a human face behind a robotic visor to better fit in with the other Pretenders in the series. Grand's head can also be removed and transformed into a smaller robot, known as Gran.

: Two smaller vehicles, Onomus and Koka, fit into the toe areas of the Brave Maximus robot. They can combine into the robot [[Cog (Masterforce)|Cog]]. Also included were a gun for Cog, a "Heat Blaster" gun and "Master Blade" sword for Grand, which could be held in either robot or Pretender mode, and two larger guns—the "Proton Master Rifle" and "Dual Laster Cannon"—and the huge "Grand Sword" for Grand Maximus.

: This mold was used to make ''[[Robots in Disguise (toyline)|Car Robots]]'' [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus]] and his ''[[Robot Masters (franchise)|Robot Masters]]'' release as "[[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Cybertron Base]]".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1988/Cybertron/GrandMaximus/grandmaximus.htm More information on Grand Maximus at TFU.info]''

===''Transform Jr''===
[[Image:Grandmax jr.jpg|right|270px|thumb|Albino Maximus]]
* '''Grand Maximus'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-311'''
**''Accessories:'' Grand Headmaster figure, gun, ramp, "laser block"

:Like his larger counterpart, ''Transform Jr'' Grand Maximus is a [[Redeco|redeco]] of ''Transform Jr'' Fortress Maximus, and a heavily simplified version of the larger version of the mold. And we ''mean'' simplified – he only transforms to battleship mode, which involves little more than pulling the head off and laying the figure down. The head does transform into Grand, at least, although overall, the toy doesn't really ''look'' like Grand Maximus, decorated as it is solely in whites and red, without a hint of teal in sight. Grand Maximus is arguably the rarest and most sought after Transform Jr toy.

==Merchandise==
===Super Collection Figure===
[[Image:Grandmax scf.jpg|right|150px|thumb|]]
*'''Grand Maximus''' (2002)

:Grand Maximus was the "Build-A-Figure" from the sixth wave of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Super Collection Figure]]'' line of [[Plastic|PVC]] figurines. Naturally enough, he was a redeco of the previous year's Fortress Maximus Build-A-Figure, sans the Master Sword.

:Grand was divided into six parts, each one packaged with one of the metallic silver "pewter" versions of the six individual figures in the line (the regular color versions of the figures did not come with any of Grand's parts). His head was included with [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], his body with [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]], his left arm with [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]], his right arm with [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], his left leg with [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and his right leg with [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundblaster]]. Each of the parts was available in standard full-color (at a rate of 8 out of every 10 cases), and rare "pewter" (only 2 out of every 10 cases) versons, making two variations of Grand Maximus to assemble.

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Talk:Starscream (SG)

2009-11-17T21:42:53Z

Mazenoise: /* Question */

Hey guys,

Not to have a major whinge or anything, but who decided to change the parenthetical suffixes of all these guys from "(Shattered Glass)" to "(Timelines)"? Was it even discussed?

"Shattered Glass" seems like a much more specific and descriptive (and thus better) label to me. Furthermore, although I acknowledge it seems extreeemely obvious, has it actually been officially confirmed yet that this set actually is part of "Timelines"?

[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 11:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

:I agree that "Shattered Glass" is the better choice for these guys. For example, there's almost certainly going to be a Megatron as an at-show exclusive, which would be the second Megatron released under the "Timelines" banner. With overarching labels like "Timelines" and the new "Universe," I think the more specific terms, like "Shattered Glass" and "Classic Series," should be used where needed. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

: Yeah, we're going to have TWO Megatron Timelines figures. And let's not forget the Optimus Prime and Grimlock and Starscream who have already shown up in Timelines stories. (Timelines) as a disambig is not specific enough to avoid confusion with other entities. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
::Meh. This reminds me to move [[Dirge (Descent into Evil)|Dirge (Timelines)]], though. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 22:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
:::So, it looks like we've got a bit of an agreement going here, do we? Can we change them all back to "Shattered Glass" now? And who ''did'' change it in the first place...?
:::[[User:PacifistPrime|PacifistPrime]][[User:PacifistPrime|PP]] 23:52, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
{{see|Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Disambiguation}}

== Starscream bio ==

I'm new to the wiki, but I was able to find some good snapshots of the bio-cards that came with the Shattered Glass toys.

http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?t=1019 If anything, I know somebody will edit it better than me, but I thought it would be nice to get it up. -yuna0707

== Question ==

Did this guy get an Earth form for Eye in the Sky? Because I had a look at the cover and it seems there's a guy that looks like Energon Starscream on it. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 14:55, 17 November 2009 (EST)
: Energon Starscream doesn't look like that. He has a rounded-point cockpit crotch. That's just Cybertron Starscream's silhouette. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:55, 17 November 2009 (EST)
Those missile pods or whatever next to his head do look more Energon (because they're bigger and shaped slightly differently) than Cybertron Starscream, but other than that he's obviously Cyb. Starscream. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 16:42, 17 November 2009 (EST)