MediaWiki - User contributions [en]

Talk:Brawl (WFC)

2012-12-03T03:16:25Z

Megatron Prime: Q/C Issues

== Q/C Issues ==

I just got the retail version on Friday, and I noticed today that he has two left feet. Didn't know if this was an issue that has come up before with this figure, or if mine is an isolated incident.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 22:16, 2 December 2012 (EST)

User:Megatron Prime

2012-02-29T19:19:00Z

Megatron Prime:

Not to be confused with [[Megatron (Prime)]]

In my view, Skywarp is Cyclonus and Thundercracker is Scourge. Skywarp and Thunder are purple and blue respectively, as are Cyclonus and Scourge.

My favorite character: [[Prowl (G1)]]

Other favorites include, but are not limited to: [[Devastator (G1)]], [[Soundwave (G1)]], and the [[Combaticons]] as they are portrayed in [[Simon Furman]]'s iteration of the [[IDW]]-verse.

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2012 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2012-02-29T18:56:13Z

Megatron Prime:

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' vote for a specific version of Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Megatron, Starscream, Dinobot, Ironhide, Ratchet, Soundwave, or Waspinator. They've already been inducted!
##You '''also''' can't vote for '''Grimlock, Jazz or Shockwave'''. They're being automatically inducted this year!
#'''However, you CAN vote for ''[[Beast Wars (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] or [[Optimus Primal]]! Hasbro considers them separate!'''
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe, Terrorsaur (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends at 3pm on '''[[March 1]], 2012'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:25, 23 February 2012 (EST)

==Poll entries==


*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Blaster, Perceptor, Rumble --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:32, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Barricade, Devastator, Laserbeak, Ravage, Sideways --[[User:LV|LV]] 12:34, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bluestreak, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Ravage, Wheeljack --[[User:Bluestreak7|Bluestreak7]] 12:41, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Hot Rod, Ratbat, Ravage, Skywarp--[[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 12:44, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Barricade, Beast Megatron, Rattrap, Sideways, Sky-Byte [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 12:58, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blaster, Hot Rod, Perceptor, Scorponok, Wheeljack {{unsigned|84.13.39.130}}
*Demolishor, Megatron (BW), Scorponok, Sideways, Sky-Byte. [[User:Rayqui|Rayqui]] 13:14, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Cyclonus, Hot Rod, Jetfire, Kup, Rhinox - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 13:21, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Kup, Prowl (G1), Scorponok (G1), Sunstreaker, Swindle --[[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 13:32, 23 February 2012 (EST)
* Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Hot Rod, Megatron (BW), Swindle --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:41, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage, Unicron --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:47, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rampage (BW), Sky-Byte [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:54, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Megatron (BW), Minerva (Masterforce), Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rhinox {{unsigned|50.10.61.121}}
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Laserbeak, Prowl, Sky-Byte --[[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 14:07, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blades, Hot Rod, Kup, Megatron (BW), Smokescreen --[[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 14:11, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bruticus, Fortress Maximus, Omega Supreme, Skywarp, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 14:19, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Rhinox, Sky-Byte --[[User:Abates|abates]] 14:22, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Cliffjumper, Cyclonus, Prowl, Ultra Magnus, Wheeljack --[[User:AutoUIMagnus299|AutoUIMagnus299]] 14:37, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Hot Rod, Jetfire, Omega Supreme, Prowl --[[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 14:57, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Depth Charge, Quickstrike, Rattrap, Rhinox, Wreck-Gar --[[User:Femmes Rule!|Femmes Rule!]] 15:01, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Prowl, Rodimus Prime, Scorponok, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Magaroja|Magaroja]] 15:19, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Hot Spot, Quickmix, Searchlight, Silverbolt, Steeljaw --[[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] 15:35, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Astrotrain, Bruticus, Rumble, Skywarp, Thundercracker --[[User:crown of starscream|crown of starscream]] 16:02, 23 Febuary 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Ravage, Sky-Byte --[[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 15:36, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Paddles, Piano Transformer Guy, Scrounge, Silverbolt (BW)--[[Special:Contributions/184.56.30.163|184.56.30.163]] 15:40, 23 February 2012 (EST))
*Metroplex, Mudflap (movie), Predaking, Sunstorm (G1), Trypticon {{unsigned|94.7.56.6}}
*Blitzwing (Animated), Ironfist, Straxus, Ultra Magnus, Wreck-Gar --[[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 16:02, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Jetstorm (BM), Lugnut (Animated), Megatron (BW/BM), Optimus Primal, Roadbuster.--[[Special:Contributions/96.237.141.219|96.237.141.219]] 16:31, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Cliffjumper, Fortress Maximus, Optimus Primal, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 16:36, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Cliffjumper, Jetfire, Prowl [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 16:37, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Laserbeak (DOTM), Megatron (BW), Ravage, Unicron. [[Special:Contributions/95.151.0.33|95.151.0.33]] 17:04, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Fortress Maximus, Ginrai, Prowl, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] 17:06, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Impactor, Ironfist, Overlord, Straxus, Tarantulas --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 18:25, 23 February 2012 (EST)
* Bulkhead, Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Sunstorm --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:34, 23 February 2012 (EST)
* Blurr, Rattrap, Tarantulas, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Russellestate|Russellestate]] 19:02, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Inferno (BW), Rampage (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle --[[Special:Contributions/72.187.230.66|72.187.230.66]] 19:08, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Megatron (BW), Nightbeat, Sentinel Prime (Animated), Sky-Byte, Thunderwing--[[Special:Contributions/74.110.211.53|74.110.211.53]] 19:24, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Laserbeak(G1), Optimus Primal, Predaking, Primus, Ultra Magnus (G1).If combiners count.If not then Warpath--[[User:Gamemaster|Gamemaster]] 7:53, 23 February 2012
*Rampage (BW), Rattrap, Scorponok (BW), Tarantualas (BW), Terrorsaur (BW) [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 19:57, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Cheetor (Beast Era), Ginrai, Megatron (Beast Era), Optimus Primal, Thunderwing --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 20:03, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bluestreak, Chromia, First Aid, Prowl, Ravage--[[User:al_cielo|al_cielo]] 20:02, 23 February 2012
*Jetfire, Landmine, Sky lynx, Smokescreen, Swoop--[[User:Wwelord|Wwelord]] 20:08, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Botanica (both BW and Animated), Firestar, Moonracer, Perceptor (Animated), Slipstream (Animated). If Botanica doesn't count, put Chromia in her place. --[[User:Firestar_of_Kalis|Firestar_of_Kalis]] 15:22, 23 February 2012 (HST)
*[[Blackarachnia]], [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]], [[Sentinel Prime (DOTM)|Sentinel Prime]] -- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 20:42, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Wheeljack. ----[[Special:Contributions/71.17.207.182|71.17.207.182]] 20:59, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Skybyte --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 20:59, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*[[Barricade]], [[Bulkhead]], [[Hot Rod]], [[Megatron (BW)]], [[Rattrap]] -- [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 02:34, 25 February 2012 (EST)
* Arcee, Bulkhead, Optimus Primal, Ironhide, Sky-byte --(Dinobotairfeather)
*Jetfire, Megatron(BW), Rampage(BW), Sari Sumdac(She counts), Sentinel Prime [[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 21:52, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead (Prime), Prowl (G1), Thundercracker (G1 and Cybertron), Ultra Magnus (RID), Wheeljack (G1) --[[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 22:19, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Cyclonus (G1), Galvatron (G1), Rampage (BW), Silverbolt (BW), Sky-Byte --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:34, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*[[Arcee]], [[Blackarachnia]], [[Firestar]], [[Moonracer]], [[Sunstreaker]] --[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 22:35, 23 February 2012 (EST)
* Bombshell (G1), Cyclonus (G1), Demolishor (Armada), Scourge (RID), Swerve (G1) --[[User:Thunderweb|Thunderweb]] 23:17, 23 February 2012 (EST)
*Brawn (G1), Megatron (BW), Ravage (SG), Sunstorm (G1), Ultra Magnus (G1) {{unsigned|74.37.238.167}}
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]], [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] --[[User:G1MarvelBlaster|G1MarvelBlaster]] 00:47, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Barricade, BlackArachnia, Thunderwing, Wheeljack, Wreck-Gar[[Special:Contributions/70.34.147.3|70.34.147.3]] 01:11, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Lugnut, Rotorstorm, Sixshot, Swindle, Wheeljack --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 01:36, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Prowl, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus, Wheeljack {{unsigned|N2977R}}
*Bludgeon (G1), Megatron (Beast Wars), Scorponok (G1), Thunderwing (G1), Unicron -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 04:19, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Kup, Rattrap, Wreck-Gar --[[User:Cr85747|Cr85747]] 4:47, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Omega Supreme, Overlord, Ratbat, Sideways, Sky-Byte - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 05:25, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Blades, Cliffjumper, Hot Shot, Rampage(BW), Thundercracker [[User:Wasp-shot23|Wasp-shot23]] 06:53, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Astrotrain (G1), Blitzwing (G1), Bombshell, Laserbeak (G1), Rumble (G1) --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 09:26, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Cosmos, Ironfist, Repugnus, Swerve, Tailgate -- JediFlaherty 11:50, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Cheetor, Devastator, Ravage, Sky-Byte -- [[User:Rav|Rav]] 14:51, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Laserbeak, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 16:25, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bonecrusher, Devastator, Leadfoot, Roadbuster, Sky-Byte --[[User:Atomic Horse|Atomic Horse]] 17:47, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Devastator, Megatron (BW), Omega Supreme, Rattrap --[[User:Endgame|Endgame]] 18:05, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee(g1),Blitzwing(g1/animated),Bulkhead(animated/prime),Cyclonus(g1),Predaking(g1)--[[User:Bardock12|Bardock12]] 18:11, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bludgeon, Overlord, Prowl, Ultra Magnus, Wreck-Gar --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 18:47, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Crosswise, Hotshot, Vehicon (Prime), Wheeljack [[Special:Contributions/74.90.6.206|74.90.6.206]] 19:06, 24 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus, Unicron {{unsigned|64.121.173.16}}
*Arcee, Barricade, Ironfist, Prowl, Thundercracker --[[User:TrashTalk|TrashTalk]] 01:33, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
*Alpha Trion, Arcee (Prime), Bulkhead, Prowl (Animated), W heeljack -- [[Special:Contributions/134.161.85.66|134.161.85.66]] 00:18, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Cyclonus, Kup, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Starscream0625|Starscream0625]] 00:24, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Bomb-Burst (G1), Cosmos, Warpath, Wheelie (G1), Wreck-Gar (G1 and Animated) {{unsigned|115.135.229.16}}
*Cliffjumper, Cyclonus, Hot Rod, Kup, Skywarp {{unsigned|98.132.183.140}}
*Megatron (BW), Nightbeat, Rattrap, Skullgrin, Springer - [[User:Danja|Danja]] 10:56, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Kup, Megatron (BW), Rattrap, Sky-Byte --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 11:19, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Blitzwing, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Sky-Byte --[[User:TrentTroop|TrentTroop]] 12:04, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Cyclonus, Galvatron, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus --[[Special:Contributions/50.138.134.40|50.138.134.40]] 12:29, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Hot Shot, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Amadeus Windfall|Amadeus Windfall]] 12:52, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Swindle -- GR
*Blaster, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Ravage, Skids --[[User:Chip|Chip]] 13:50, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee,Blackarachnia,Cliffjumper,Megatron(BW),Straxus---Abdullah
*Prowl, Roadbuster, Springer, Soundwave, Thundercracker --[[User:Shafau|Shafau]] 14:07, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Drift, Laserbeak, Megatron (BW), Thundercracker (G1), Wheeljack. {{unsigned|98.232.210.235}}
*Blurr, Bulkhead, Jetfire, Unicron, Wheeljack --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 14:51, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Broadside, Bulkhead, Jetfire, Megatron (BW), Unicron [[User:ShinRa Actual|ShinRa Actual]] 15:49, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Hot Rod, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte [[User:MrBlud|MrBlud]] 20:19, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Beachcomber (G1), Blurr (G1), Tracks (G1), Ultra Magnus (G1)--nikikt
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Lockdown, Omega Supreme, Scourge(RiD) -- [[User:Assey|Assey]] 23:20, 25 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Devastator, Scorponok, Wheeljack, Wreck-Gar -- {{unsigned|24.3.231.149}}
*Cyclonus, Hot Rod, Optimus Primal, Sky-Byte, Wheeljack -- [[User:Anguirus]]
*Liokaiser, Metal Hawk, Minerva, Sixshot, Star Saber -- [[user:XenoStryker|XenoStryker]]
*Darkwing, Dreadwind, Impactor, Swindle, Xaaron - [[Special:Contributions/94.195.192.254|94.195.192.254]] 03:46, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Hot Rod, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Unicron -- [[user:Daith]]
*Bulkhead, Scourge (RiD), Sideways, Sky-Byte, Wheeljack -- [[User:Sky Shadow|Sky Shadow]] 07:46, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Knock Out, Prowl, Skywarp, Sunstreaker, Thundercracker--[[User:TheHappyShark|TheHappyShark]] 09:27, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage, Shokaract--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:47, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Blaster, Guzzle, Megatron (BW), Ravage --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 12:12, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Carnivac, Straxus, Swindle, Under-3, Xaaron [[User:Blueshift|Blueshift]] 12:18, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Rattrap, Ravage, Scorponok, Swoop, Thundercracker {{unsigned|24.21.71.55}}
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle [[Special:Contributions/75.89.162.254|75.89.162.254]] 15:23, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Black Zarak, Erector, Fortress Maximus, Minerva, Swindle -- Star Sabre James 14:35 February 26, 2012 (CST)
*Fortress Maximus, Minerva, Prowl, Skywarp, Swindle -- Lowlight 14:46 February 26, 2012 (CST)
*Blitzwing, Lockdown, Overlord, Prowl, Wheeljack {{unsigned|Astrotrain85}}
*Bludgeon, Metalhawk, Minerva, Unicron, Thunderclash {{unsigned|Aernaroth}}
*Bulkhead, Cliffjumper, Hot Shot, Ultra Magnus, Wheeljack -- [[User:Thedude|Thedude]] 17:21, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Devastator, Rodimus Prime, Skywarp, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:PsychoAndy|PsychoAndy]] 18:08, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Jetfire, Optimus Primal, Prowl (G1), Silverbolt (BW), Superion -- [[Pizzle]] 18:20, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Sky-Byte, Star Saber, Swindle, Thundercracker -- [[User:Terrortron|Terrortron]] 19:05, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Ravage, Sky-Byte, Swindle [[User:Pencoin|Pencoin]] 19:59, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Brawl, Hot Shot, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Swindle -- [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 22:02, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*[[Blackarachnia]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]], [[Optimus Primal]], [[Rattrap]], [[Ravage]] -- [[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 23:06, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Wheeljack (G1) [[User:EShadowP|EShadowP]] 23:16, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee (Prime), Ratchet (Prime), Roadbuster, Starscream (Armada), Wheeljack (G1) --[[Special:Contributions/98.109.187.86|98.109.187.86]] 23:31, 26 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Hot Rod/imus, Nightbeat, Perceptor, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Trixter|Trixter]] 00:08, 27 February 2012 (EST)
*Botanica, Bulkhead, Demolishor, Lugnut, Sky-Byte --[[Special:Contributions/62.254.76.247|62.254.76.247]] 04:20, 27 February 2012 (EST)
*Lugnut, Sky-Byte, Swindle {{unsigned|87.251.221.57}}
*[[Blades (RB)|Silverbolt 2]], [[Blitzwing (disambiguation)|THA BLITZ, THA HOLE BLITZ & NUTHIN' BUT THA BLITZ]], [[Prowl (Animated)|The ninja bot who never finnished his training]], Hellscream, [[Thunderwing (G1)| BIG & BAD, Thunderwing]]--[[User:Jazzerprime|Jazzy primey, yo]] 5:43, February 28, 2012
*Ginrai (Masterforce), Metalhawk (Masterforce), Minerva (Masterforce), Overlord (Masterforce), Sky-Byte (RID)-- Megabattimus
*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Minerva, Rattrap, Sky-Byte -- Hursticon
*Hot Rod, Nightbeat, Kup, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus-- tburch
*Arcee, Cheetor, Devastator, Minerva, Swindle-- MunkkyNotTrukk
*Amalgamous Prime, Drift (SG), Heatwave (SG), Jetstorm (SG), Solus Prime {{unsigned|219.79.17.93}}
*Arcee, Omega Supreme, Prowl, Ravage, Sky-Byte --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 08:24, 27 February 2012 (EST)
*Beast Wars Megatron, Minerva, Rodimus, Sky-Byte, Swindle -- brickonator
*Bulkhead(Animated), Megatron(BW), Rattrap, Rhinox, Sixshot -- ([[User:Proper Dave|Proper Dave]] 10:14, 27 February 2012 (EST))
*Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Sky-Byte, Wheeljack -- Barricade64
*Cannonball, Flatline, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Sky-Byte --[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 10:53, 27 February 2012 (EST)
*Alpha Trion, Megatronus Prime/The Fallen, Prima, Primus, Unicron {{unsigned|70.80.204.216}}
*Arcee (prime), Knock out (prime), Rattrap (bw), Ravage, Silverbolt (bw) {{unsigned|Foxtrot}}
*Blurr(SG), Cliffjumper(SG), Dead-end (G1), Dreadwing(Prime), The Fallen {{unsigned|Ghostpirate}}
*Megatron (BW), Rattrap (BW), Terrorsaur (BW), Unicron, Ultra Magnus {{unsigned|62.252.152.189}}
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Lockdown, Rattrap, Wheeljack -- [[User:SamuraiMarmoset|SamuraiMarmoset]] 4:36 PM, 02-27-2012
*Cyclonus(Armada), Knock Out(Prime), Ravage(G1), Scourge(RID), Starscream(Armada) -- ~Tempest Prime9~ 5:06 PM, 02-27-2012
*Alpha Trion, Arcee, Devastator, Primus, Unicron -- Androiddxx 6:21 PM, 27 February 2012
*Dezarus, Dinobot2, Megazarak,Megatron(beast wars),Predaking--Android26 3:46 PM February 27
*Alpha Trion, Devastator, Prowl, Unicron, Wheeljack -- AWESOMEAUTOBOT 8:57 PM February 27 2012
*Alpha Trion, Hardhead, Jetfire, Kup, Warpath--IDWfan 9:26 PM, 27 February 2012
*Bulkhead, Knock Out(Prime), Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle -- [[User:Strangefour|Strangefour]] 22:32, 27 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Bulkhead, Prowl, Rattrap, Wheeljack --[[Special:Contributions/75.162.22.53|75.162.22.53]] 00:09, 28 February 2012 (EST)
*Powerglide (G1), Red Alert (Armada), Seaspray (G1), Tidal Wave (Armada), Wingsaber (cybertron) -- [[User:Powerspray231|Powerspray231]] 17:45 28th February 2012 (AEST)
*Fortress Maximus, Metalhawk, Rattrap, Skids, Vector Prime {{unsigned|123.211.2.245 }}
*Lockdown, Megatron(BW), Rodimus Prime, Sky-Byte, Thunderwing(G1) - [[User:Quickstrike|Quickstrike]] 05:49, 28 February 2012 (EST)
*Bulkhead, Megatron(BW), Scarem, Sky-Byte, Wheeljack (Armada)- --[[User:Esser-Z|Esser-Z]] 12:50, 28 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee (Prime), Breakdown (Prime), Cyclonus (G1), Knock Out (Prime), Skywarp (G1) {{unsigned|Randanex}}
*Arcee, Barricade, Beast Wars Megatron, Jetfire, Star Saber -- [[User:TulioDude|TulioDude]]
*Bludgeon, Knock Out (Prime), Mirage (Movie), Silverbolt (G1), Wheeljack (Prime) - [[User:bumblebeeradio|bumblebeeradio]]
*Blackarachnia, Blurr, Fortress Maximus, Rodimus, Wreck-Gar {{unsigned|176.9.53.41}}
*Megatron (BW), Mirage (Movie), Rattrap, Sideswipe (G1), Soundwave {{unsigned|206.53.78.111}}
*Blackarachnia, Perceptor, Scorponok, Sideways, Wheeljack -- --[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 19:54, 28 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee, Devastator, Optimus Primal, Rodimus Prime, Unicron -- Lodril
*Beta, Nightracer, Omega Supreme, Optimus Primal, Rattrap -- Firestone
*Minerva, Swindle -- [[Special:Contributions/97.103.161.171|97.103.161.171]]
*Bulkhead, Minerva, Sky-bite, Swindle, Wheeljack [[User:Fredbob|Fredbob]] 22:01, 28 February 2012 (EST)
*Galvatron, Jhiaxus, Kup, Ultra Magnus, Unicron [[User:Manuelle Magnus|Manuelle Magnus]] 07:35, 29 February 2012 (EST)
*Blackarachnia, Galvatron, Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, Override, Wreck-Gar --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 10:46, 29 February 2012 (EST)
*Arcee(prime), DerpyBot(FiM), Hot Rod(G1), Lazerbeak(G1), Skywarp(G1) -- [[User:NightBlitz]] 16:34, 29 February 2012 (GMT)
*Bulkhead (Animated), Rattrap, Rhinox, Sky-Byte, Wreck-Gar -- [[User:Sprocket|Sprocket]] 12:36, 29 February 2012 (EST)
*Ultra Magnus, The Constructicons (G1) (if teams aren't allowed, go Devastator), Megatron (BW), Prowl, Straxus.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 13:56, 29 February 2012 (EST)


[[Category: TFWiki.net]]

User:Megatron Prime

2012-01-19T15:25:34Z

Megatron Prime:

I hate internet cookies.

In my view, Skywarp is Cyclonus and Thundercracker is Scourge. Skywarp and Thunder are purple and blue respectively, as are Cyclonus and Scourge.

My favorite character: [[Prowl (G1)]]

Other favorites include, but are not limited to: [[Devastator (G1)]], [[Soundwave (G1)]], and the [[Combaticons]] as they are portrayed in [[Simon Furman]]'s iteration of the [[IDW]]-verse.

2010-11-27T23:57:18Z

Megatron Prime:

Can we get a source on Blurr coming in a future wave? I thought that was an April Fool's joke. --Anon, 10:42, 26 April 2010
:[http://www.parrygamepreserve.com/newsDetail.php?jID=1325 Parry Game Preserve's March Q&A answers]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:23, 26 April 2010 (EDT)

== War for Cybertron ==

I don't know how much this means, but if you click on "War for Cybertron toys" on Hasbro's [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/movie-news/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron.cfm War for Cybertron] page it brings up the whole first wave of Generations. I doubt that this in itself pulls Drift and Thrust into the ''[[Transformers: Prime]]'' [[continuity family]], but I suppose there is a small chance that this is the direction Hasbro is going. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:05, 1 July 2010 (EDT)
: It means nothing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:09, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

== Launch Date ==

-Have the toys hit retail yet? I havn't seen them anywhere, but the page doesn't say Wave 1 is "scheduled for release" anymore.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 12:25, 22 July 2010 (EDT)
:One can order them on Walmart.com, thus why there isn't the 'scheduled for release' template for Wave 1. Looking forward to them being sold at actual stores. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 13:08, 22 July 2010 (EDT)
::They ARE being sold at actual stores. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 13:32, 22 July 2010 (EDT)
:::Depends on where you are. Around here (NC) stores tend to be about 2 months behind NY/CA in getting things. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:51, 22 July 2010 (EDT)
::::My local Walmart seems to have many Wave 4 ROTF Deluxe toys left. Back on topic; thank you, Blackout, for sharing. Looking forward to seeing them at stores in my neck of the woods. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 14:26, 22 July 2010 (EDT)

-When is wave 2 coming out?

Speaking of Wave 2, it seems to me that Drift and Thrust are not part of Wave 1. WFC Optimus and Bumblebee have been at stores for about a month, but I havn't seen the former two.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 12:12, 27 August 2010 (EDT)
: This is because Toys R Us got an advance WFC-only case to promote WFC when WFC came out. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:26, 27 August 2010 (EDT)

-I think Dirge and Blurr will be released by this christmas, as they weren't included in Cybertroncon's "Spring 2011" transformers,but they didn't mention Reflector or Cliffjumper did they?
::Dirge and Blurr are being shipped by BigBadToyStore right now. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:05, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

-When is wave 5 coming out?

DESPERATELY SEEKING BLURR!! I've seen reportrs of people buying him in stores, but I havn't seen him anywhere. Are these reports true? I don't want to miss out on this guy.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 18:57, 27 November 2010 (EST)
== Other "Generations-like" packaged toys ==

There's a bunch of toys that are in Generations-like packaging that don't say Generations on it: the new Seacons set, the dollar-store Classics Mini-Con redecos, the ROTF Activators (and probably other stuff I've forgotten). Should we place them under Generations here and in their individual articles? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:40, 8 August 2010 (EDT)
:Thanks for the total lack of comments, guys. Good hustle. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:57, 14 August 2010 (EDT)
::Just put them under the subtitle-less toyline. If they were meant to be in Generations, they would have it on their boxes. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 09:03, 14 August 2010 (EDT)
:::Here's one - Masterpiece Grimlock is in a subtitle-less Generations style red packaging, but Hasbro's presentation slides (from Toy Fair, I believe) place him in Universe. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:25, 14 August 2010 (EDT)

== War for Cybertron toys ==

"* Clicking "War For Cybertron Toys" on Hasbro's [http://www2.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/movie-news/Transformers-War-for-Cybertron.cfm War For Cybertron] webpage brings up the whole "Generations" toyline. Looking for War For Cybertron toys? Here you go." It also brings up some PCC toys. Hasbro just loves messing with us. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 10:41, 26 September 2010 (EDT)

== Kup ==
Is Kup confirmed enough for inclusion on the page? With the picture on the battle in space 2 pack, it seems compleatly comfirmed.--[[User:Fredbob|Fredbob]] 19:38, 3 October 2010 (EDT)
:Not until it's officially announced. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 19:39, 3 October 2010 (EDT)
:: Pretty sure he was officially announced at BotCon. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:56, 3 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Not really. They were vague in that Hasbro way at best. And it's not like G1 guys don't get fictional redesigns with frequency. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:32, 3 October 2010 (EDT)
::::I don't think going "cough cough KUP cough cough" in answer to "which guys coming out can you not talk about" in front of hundreds of people is vague at all. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:47, 3 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Well, I didn't know that. I suppose I'd wait until slightly more solid confirmation, but I guess I admit defeat for now. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 20:49, 3 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::I would suggest holding off on adding Kup until we're sure which toyline he'll be part of: Generations, Transformers (2010 toyline), or possibly something else (which most likely would be improbable since the main part of 2011 would focus on the third movie). Just want to spare everyone the trouble of cutting and pasting from one article to another like what was done for Special Ops Jazz and Turbo Tracks. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 21:09, 3 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::I agree with this. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:11, 3 October 2010 (EDT)

== Gen 2 Optimus Prime ==

I know that Gen 2 Optimus has been announced, but he wasn't declared a 'Generations' toy, was he? I know I listed him as such on the G1 Optimus Prime toy article, but there's a possibility that I might have jumped the gun (like what was done with Special Ops Jazz). That's why I removed him from the list on this article (after adding him the day before). Meanwhile, I'll leave the Prime toy page as is until there's verification. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 11:24, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:I hate how Hasbro is handling this! They have separate toylines and separate fictions, but the toylines don't match up to the fictions! ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why couldn't "Transformers" just be movie line figures and "Generations" non-movie line figures? (Sidebar- Why do retailers seem to think that movie toys are a better sales bet than non-movie toys? OTHER than TFs and Star Wars EVERY movie line seems to clog shelves for years! The two Hulk toy lines were taking up tons of space on shelves right next to each other!) Okay, end of ranting. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:32, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:: I would imagine that retailers think to seem Transformers movie toys are a better sales bet than non-movie Transformers toys because they very very obviously are. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:51, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Especially after the huge demands for Transformers toys that lead to empty shelves in 2007. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 11:58, 16 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Huh. Haven't noticed such a huge disparity around here. TFs have pretty much had the same shelf space since RID and have sold pretty steadily (except maybe Energon). The only real jump in shelf space was when Movie, Universe and Animated were running concurrently. Even then all sold well, with Movie having the largest proportion of shelfwarmers. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:55, 17 October 2010 (EDT)

== Shouldn't Tracks, Jazz et al at least get a mention in the article ==
I know Hasbro ain't exactly making this easy for us with their confusing brand nomenclature, but shoudn't we making it easy for ourselves? I know this is simlar to the Kup and G2 Prime points above, but we currently do know how Jazz and Tracks are coming. They are obviously CHUG in design, though not in brand. They deserve a mention in the article. I would do it myself right now, but the more anankastic among us would automatically click the undo button and I couldn't be arsed wasting the effort in that particular style of edit war. [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 07:34, 17 October 2010 (EDT)
:No, not if they aren't ''Generations''. They are listed on the ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' page. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:47, 17 October 2010 (EDT)
::Crockalley had added a note that was then edited by me to say "The [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers 2010 toyline]] contains several toys with a design aesthetic similar to the Generations line. This led to confusion when fan expectations were contradicted by official Hasbro announcements." Is there consensus to leave this note, remove it entirely or edit it? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:05, 17 October 2010 (EDT)
:::I say leave the note as is. Having two toylines, both of which has G1-based characters in them, does cause confusion. Hopefully Hasbro will do be better job of seperating characters if they have future branching main toylines. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 14:50, 17 October 2010 (EDT)
::::And another batch of expected Generations figures is revealed as 2010 line instead. Any bets on how much longer this remains an ongoing line? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:14, 27 October 2010 (EDT)
::::: For as long as Hasbro wants to maximize shelf space. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:24, 29 October 2010 (EDT)

I know this doesn't belong on this page's talk page, but we haven't really got a grasp on HFTD or Reveal the Shiled sublines of the other line. And right now giving each of those lines their own category is as a good as a suggestion as any (i.e not much). The retailiers are doing better job than us on this point. [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 16:12, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
:Actually after reading the discussion on Lugnut's talk page, and the more the I think of it, is Generations any more of a separate line than HFTD or RTS? Wouldn't it make as much sense as to incorpoarte Generations under Transformers 2010? A bit like how Universe 2008 had G1 series, War Within series, G2 series etc etc 15:59, 4 November 2010 (EDT)
::No, because Generations has a different style of packaging. Universe '08 had the same packaging while denoting which era the toys came from. HFTD and RTS is only a promo. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 16:22, 4 November 2010 (EDT)

== United ==
-I want to know more about the relationship between Generations and the united toyline...Is Generations releasing Wheeljack and Kup like United, or is United releasing additional transformers. Besides, when is United being released?
: We don't have official solicitations from Hasbro about Wheeljack or Kup, but there is no doubt that we'll see them over here. Takara wouldn't make those toys on their own; it just doesn't happen. As for release dates, the preorder pages on BigBadToyStore and the like will tell you that. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:19, 22 October 2010 (EDT)

== Difficulty bar note ==

What is that note about the difficulty bar trying to say? What is the difficulty bar for in lines that aren't all deluxes? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:14, 29 October 2010 (EDT)
:Normally, the difficulty bar denotes the size of the toy rather than how difficult it is to convert the toy (or so has been my observation). If you take a look on the packaging of past toys (and on the packaging of the Transformers (2010) toyline), you'll notice that ''all'' the Deluxe-sized toys has a difficulty rating of 3, ''all'' the Voyager-class toys has a rating of 4, etc. However, Universe '08 Onslaught (an Ultra-size toy with a difficulty rating of 4) was a cinch to transform while TF (2010) Ironhide (a Deluxe-sized toy with a difficulty rating of 3) was a pain in the....neck to convert (especially with that chest piece you had to get just right and then you move him a little and it pops out! '''Argh!!!'''). But with the 'Generations' line, Hasbro was kind enough to have individual ratings for the toys (as noted in the article). Therefore, if it says Cybertronian Bumblebee is a 4th-level difficulty toy, I'm not as aggrevated and less compelled to break the toy in half out of frustration ("You knew the danger when you took it", as one feathered superhero used to say). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 08:45, 29 October 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Generations (toyline)

2010-08-27T16:12:07Z

Megatron Prime:

Talk:Ultra Magnus (disambiguation)

2010-08-27T16:05:35Z

Megatron Prime:

What is the joke about: "Ultra Magnus should not be confused with... Ultra Magnus"? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:50, 13 April 2009 (EDT)

== Movie? ==

What about the Live-Action Magnus? If there is no page for it, why even have that?--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 13:05, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
:I think that is a link to an article which should exist, but doesn't. That is, the character exists but he hasn't been written up yet. I'm not sure where he appeared, though (Possibly the card game? Or a video game?). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:27, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
::Apparently, he was mentioned in [[Transformers Comic issue 12|a letters page of the Titan movie comic]]. Which is about the minimum amount of existing any character can do. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 14:08, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

Shouldn't we put that he was mentioned once, rather than linking him to a non-existant page? --[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 12:05, 27 August 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Spotlight: Mirage

2010-08-27T03:29:07Z

Megatron Prime:

Errr...I'm a little confuzled. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 03:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
:Me too. Is this the first IDW G1 comic that has almost nothing to do with the main story whatsoever? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:56, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
::Second. Spotlight: Ramjet was a standalone story as well. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 13:54, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
:::But Spotlight: Ramjet actually takes place within continuity, between stories, even if it's not mentioned elsewhere. (Just like, say, Spotlight Metroplex or Wheelie.) But Spotlight Mirage still shows no connection to IDW continuity whatsoever in any known fashion. It seems to take place largely in two alternate universes distinct from the one we know. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:02, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
::::It doesn't help that the events of this are apparently a dream about an alternate universe... or something. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:09, 9 October 2009 (EDT)
:::::If only we could write off AHM the same way :) --[[User:MistaTee|MistaTee]] 00:20, 10 October 2009 (EDT)

It seems to me that we should take this as it is: a dream. The best example I can think of is the episode of the Disney cartoon Gargoyles titled "Future Tense". Mirage is distraught about the fact that many autobots don't trust him, and he has a dream about what would happen if he really is the traitor they think he might be. Of course, that's just my speculated interpretation.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 23:29, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Terrorcon (G1)

2010-07-29T17:27:14Z

Megatron Prime: /* IDW tag */ new section

[[Terrorcon]] currently directs here. I argue that the Energon Terrorcons are more prominent (being an essential series element) and it should go there. Are there any dissenting opinions? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:01, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:True, the Energon Terrorcons are more prominent, but these guys aren't exactly throw aways either. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:04, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

::And if we had 3- it would go to the disambig page. We have 2. It goes to one or the other. Mind if I move it? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

== IDW tag ==

I know they havn't appeared much in the IDW-verse, but shouldn't it still have the "ongoing fiction" tag?--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 13:27, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Ultra Magnus (disambiguation)

2010-07-29T17:05:58Z

Megatron Prime: /* Movie? */ new section

Talk:Jazz (G1)

2010-07-29T16:59:58Z

Megatron Prime:

Jazz's crackhead Star TV name, I could've sworn it was "Maestro", not "Marshall". Any agreement on this or am I going to have to summon the energy to pop in my DVD? ''Please'' don't make me do that. ''Please''. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 02:56, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
: I still haven't seen the Star TV dubs yet, making me feel special, yet missing out on the jokes :( --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

'''In fact, there is not one Autobot who doesn't like or admire Jazz.''' 
What about Grimlock?
--[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 14:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
: Well, Jazz is good at what he does. Maybe Grimlock 'admires' him for that? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
::They seemed pretty antagonistic towards one another the end of the G1 Marvel run. Plus I think a "Except for Grimlock." statement would be humerous enough to warrent it's existance. --[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 14:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
::: I think you can hate somebody (or at least dislike them) yet at the same time admire them for whatever they're good at. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:28, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
:::: Whoops, I was getting Prowl confused with Jazz.. Carry on. --[[User:UndeadScottsman|UndeadScottsman]] 16:31, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

==Movie move?==
Just as [[Bumblebee]] was moved to [[Bumblebee (G1)]], so too should this article be moved to [[Jazz (G1)]]? - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 00:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of moving things, we need to link Jazz's toy page to the disambig page.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 12:59, 29 July 2010 (EDT)
==Deputy Commander?==
Was he one? [[User:85.195.123.29|85.195.123.29]] 04:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
: According to "The Autobot Who's Who" in the 1986 annual he is joint 2nd in command with Prowl.

=="ginormous"==
Jazz says a lot of things. Are we going to link to Meriam-Webster for all of them? He didn't make up the term as far as I know. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 09:14, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Which reminds me, I once used the word 'ginormous' at school as a kid after hearing it in the movie and the teacher called me out on it as he didn't recognise the word. [[Special:Contributions/84.65.58.231|84.65.58.231]] 06:02, 11 October 2009 (EDT)

==Pink variant==
Shouldn't this article have some info on that infamous limited-edition pink variant of Binaltech Meister that Takara did as a cross-promotion with some J-pop singer?--[[User:TVsGrady|TVsGrady]] 19:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

==Face ruined forever?==
Would a comparison photo of the G1 toy's face degrading from the original to the Encore reissue be a worthy addition to this article? [[User:Takeshi357|Takeshi357]] 18:16, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

== New Mold? ==

Doesn`t the legends jazz vaugely resemble legends barricade? Just asking--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 05:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
:P.S., Hasbro said no animated character would get the universe treatment, yet jazz, prime, and megs are. Then again, prime and megs were obious exceptions, but jazz?

== Missile Launcher ==

Has Jazz ever been depicted using his shoulder-mounted missile launcher much in fiction? I always thought it was a pretty iconic look for him which helped make his appearance what it is but no images depict him with it. [[Special:Contributions/84.65.58.231|84.65.58.231]] 06:13, 11 October 2009 (EDT)
:Good question. Not many that I can think of. Maybe in some early UK stories. There is [[:Image:Tfcolcom03.jpg|this cover]] which is pretty neat. And these [[Battle in the Desert Valley|two]] [[The Power Struggle|posters]] which are not pretty neat. Let me know if you find more. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:53, 11 October 2009 (EDT)
:He uses it in [[To a Power Unknown!]] to fire a heat seekting missle at Starscream. If I can dig out the book and get my scanner working I'll upload a pic --[[Special:Contributions/80.176.139.71|80.176.139.71]] 05:21, 11 December 2009 (EST)

==Mainpic==
I uploaded Image:G1JazzIDWPrint.jpg with the intention of making it Jazz's new mainpic, but now I'm not sure if it's categorically better than the existing one. Thoughts? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 18:24, 28 January 2010 (EST)
: Well, I passed on that image FOR the current image, back in the day. Why? Well, you see just as much of Jazz here as you do there, and plus it give us more artist variation. We have an awful lot of art from this Guido series as character page images. And though Guido is awesome 99% of the time, this is a pretty chunky, clunky overly-DWesque portrait of his. So it's nice to have some Mark Brooks instead. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:54, 28 January 2010 (EST)
::I just can't stop staring at his hand. And then his wrist. And then...oh God, make it stop. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 13:30, 3 March 2010 (EST)
:::I know I'm a pain for this sort of main image criticism, but that image is really poor. [[User:Drmick|Drmick]] 10:35, 3 July 2010 (EDT)

User talk:Megatron Prime

2010-07-29T16:28:20Z

2010-07-01T16:56:38Z

Megatron Prime:

==Not Megatron comment==

what inspired that? [[USER:GWolf]]
:Many people on various boards who can't get over the fact that movie Megs is neither a gun nor a tank. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

::More specifically, the ones who are ''so'' incapable of getting over it that they form elaborate conspiracy theories about how Megatron will get a tank altmode during the movie and Hasbro decided to call the corresponding toy "Brawl" to keep it a surprise. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 03:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
:::those were the days, man. Almost makes me think a "pre-release theories" section on the movie page wouldn't be all that out out of place. Fits right in there with the theory that the human cast list was actually a secret robot voice actor list, with clever codenames like "Epps" to put people off the trail that he's obviously Jazz.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 02:03, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Brawl could have easily been named Overkill, if you ask me. His toy has an amount of weapons that border on goofy: His spring loaded cannon on his right arm, the fact that it can swivel 180 to reveal a more accurate to his design Gatling Gun molding, his behind the back secondary guns, his shoulder mounted missile launchers, his twin claw, AND the anti-personal cannon molded onto the twin claw's base. Sheeeeeesh. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 19:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

==Devastator==

apparently, when they screened the movie in australia, little thing became apparent. His name's Devestator?

Opened, or screened? Because if it was a pre-screening, it may have been a rough cut of the movie-- several decepticons' names were changes later in production, and Devastator was an early name for Brawl.

You can count on this being corrected for the actual film release. Roberto Orci has [http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showpost.php?p=368555&postcount=4479 commented on it.] --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 04:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

They called it both a special screening event and a premiere. We rock. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey I just saw the movie on June 29th in a sneak preview in columbus ohio and they called him Devastator. And it seemed like scenes were missing from the movie

:I'm a little confused as to why "Devastator" isn't noted as a mistaken when the only place it appears is a single subtitle line in the actual movie whilst "Brawl" appears on... everything else ever. I mean, a Michael Bay forced mistake is still a mistake.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:52, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::"Forced mistake"? If he intended to call the tank Devastator and he called it Devastator, I'm not seeing the mistake. It's clearly different from every other appearance, but unless we're going to make a big deal about how purple cartoon Rumble is a mistake, there's no reason to make it sound like someone didn't know what his name was. "Brawl" is clearly the most parsimonious name for the page, but that doesn't change the fact that his name is Devastator in the movie. -[[User:67.149.204.113|67.149.204.113]] 04:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Heh, until the DVD release. I don't see Hasbro sitting by on that one when they've got Brawl stamped on all the merchandise.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:46, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::: Brawl is the better name, they should save devastator for the sequel.

The cinema in Minnesota I just saw the movie at had the 'Devastator' cut. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:Wait, what do you mean? Do you mean "cut" as in "the name Devastator was removed" or "cut" as in "the cut of the film that has Devastator," which would be the same as what everyone else has already seen? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
::The version where he's called Devastator. ...is there ''no'' version where he's called Brawl like the said or something? Now you've confused me. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Nope. It's Devastator in every version.

:::Of course, it's still wrong. But there is no cut that says Brawl. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 01:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

::::It says "Brawl" in the credits, though. And as MCRG said, with "Brawl" on all the packaging I'm sure it'll be changed in time for the DVD release. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 02:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

So, uh, twice now people have removed the "Brawl (here called "Devastator")" bit from the movie summary with no explanation at all. I think that phrasing is important for the sake of clarification. Otherwise there's no real clear reason for him to be referred to as Devastator in the article as it's never actually stated before there that the name Devastator appears in the movie. Can somebody please justify this? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 21:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

:It was apparently LV that removed it. After it was put back today, he asked if he was alone in thinking it should be removed. I said it was a little weird to suddenly call the character Devastator with no explanation, and he seemed to give up immediately. I don't recall him actually justifying it, but I think it'd be easiest for you to ask. /:) --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 03:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Regarding current edit:
I don't think we should specifically denounce one name over the other, especially in the movie fiction section. Would the "Brawl (here called "Devastator")" thing work for the first mention, then just use pronouns for the rest of this specific section? [[User:Atomic spaceman|Atomic spaceman]] 21:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:I don't think it's really denouncing- he was originally named Devastator, but his name was ''later changed'' to Brawl, it just didn't get fixed int he movie.
:Somehow I feel like that sounds ''less'' than, say, Jetfire begin called Skyfire int he Sunbow Cartoon. (I may change my tune if it's not fixed on the DVD) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:08, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

For the film's fiction subsection I have changed his name to Devastator. It's the only name he is given in that story, and the director of the film has apparently said he prefers that name. To me, that makes it his name. He simply has a different name in the film than in all his other appearances. Further: there is still a mention in the trivia that he is credited as Brawl. However, the last time I saw the movie with LV and Walky, they both scanned the voice credits (I was looking elsewhere) and didn't see him credited ''at all'', under either name. Can any editors personally attest to have seen the credit with their own eyes, or are we just repeating Some Guy's claim that it's there? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

:Old edit of mine from early June for the Sydney June 12th premiere, where the voice actors were finally revealed. IIRC it was posted by one of the people attending and I forgot to edit it out, and I didn't bother hanging around to watch the voice credits myself. Btw, do the Decepticons EVER refer to Sam as anything other than Ladiesman217? That's why I refer to him as such in all the Decepticon writeups I've done. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

===DVD===
Well, the DVD has been released in some places already, clips are flooding YouTube. So, I just wanna take the time to ask this question. Does he still call himself Devastator in the DVD release? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 05:57, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
:According to a thread on the official TF movie forum, yes. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

==Image==
Does anyone have an actual image of Brawl in robot mode? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 16:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
:No, he never appeared in any promotional materials to my knowledge, and is BARELY seen in only some of the tv spots. The first time we saw his movie design (and not just his toy) was that leaked concept design sheet at TFW2005. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
::He shows up in various heavily illustrated material, but in group shots. Let me think...He's in the movie comic adaptation, and various storybooks. Meet The Decepticons (group shot), Movie Storybook (likely same), and so forth. If you want a render, it seems unlikely.
:::Doublechecked various books. Seems like the best image of Brawl we'll get is his first appearance in bot mode from the Movie adapation comic. Beyond that, he's either lost in crowds, or not drawn well. Or cropped badly. --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 21:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
::::The game guide has a pretty large promo render of Brawl. There are a couple screen shots clipping him, but I'll see what I can do. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:29, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::So now that Brawl's gotten a released to the public concept art, we gonna ditch the CG one from the game, or keep using him? --[[User:Terrocon Blot|Terrocon Blot]] 01:14, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
::::::There is? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:54, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
Actually, there are better picture of this guy. They can be found on Ben Procter's website. (The one with all the movie designs.) [[User:Crosshairs-1|Crosshairs-1]] 11:55, 2 February 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1

== Devastator and Michael Bay ==

"When queried, director Michael Bay said he had always preferred Devastator and that it is not a mistake."

I'd like to see a source for this. 'Cuz for everyone who brings this up, there's someone who will claim that Bay confirmed it as an error that will get fixed for the DVD. So unless someone can cite a source, I'm inclined to call this (as well as the "fixed for the DVD" version) a "fan rumor".

Oh, and "I seem to recall" or "I think I read somewhere" is not a source.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 22:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

: Then fix it yourself. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 03:17, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
::Well, I can find it I think. Also, anyone remember his "If I wanna paint my house green" thing over flmaes and Prime s

==Quote==
If someone can SOURCE that "stupid simple" quote, I'd rather use that. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:03, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

== Better image? ==

His main image is a stupid "Cyber Slammer" because....? [[User:LordHigher,MoreAnnoyingStarscream|LordHigher,MoreAnnoyingStarscream]] 16:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
:Because it's so out of character for a monster like Brawl to look this cute. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
::Besides, they never released a single publicity image of him. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 08:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I swapped the Cyber Slammer image with the concept art pic at the bottom of the article. -- [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 09:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Well, I guess you suck, then. -[[User:LV|LV]] 13:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::What the hell? It's concept art. Cyber Slammer art is the only official art of him on this page. I'm changing it back. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:03, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::More importantly, the Cyber Slammer picture is hilarious. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 01:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I think it's much better now!Maybe.--[[User:Telex|Telex]] 02:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:It wasn't. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Now?--[[User:Telex|Telex]] 02:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
:NO --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 02:25, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
How Bow Now?-[[User:Telex|Telex]] 02:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I changed the image to a video game one. I would have used the concept one, but I can't find anywhere. '''DO NOT CHANGE IT BACK. I WILL BAN YOU WHO CHANGES IT BACK.''' Read my argument against the Cyber Slammers image on my user page. [[User:G1MA|G1MA]] 00:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)G1MA
:That's...a bad way to get people on your side. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

===Better Image II: The Serious Discussion===
May I ask why we don't use the video game image as his main image? It's a good, full body image, we use a game image as [[Tidal Wave (Armada)|Tidal Wave]]'s main image, and we have the Cyber Slammer image on the [[Package art#Transformers (2007)|package art]] page making the same joke. So seriously, why not? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 02:08, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
: 1) Because the image is awesome.
: 2) I don't see the same joke, sir.
: 3) It should be obvious after all this that you're outnumbered on the issue. Why belabor it? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

::I'm not gonna make a fuss over it, but -- considering the huge stink we make for [[Megatron (Movie)|some characters]] over how [[:Image:Movie_Wreckage_Traitor.jpg|such-and-such picture]] doesn't have "the right body", often haggling over some minor differences that nobody's gonna even notice, it's a little baffling to me how this pic has stayed up as the main image. FUNNY > information? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 16:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Because I believe only four things, Walky:
#The Autobots will rule Cybertron.
#Female Transformers work better if you don't over exert yourself trying to explain them.
#Megatron is better as a tank. It's more mobile than the gun, having him as a flier makes Starscream that much more useless, and it gives the fusion cannon a role in alt-mode.
#And Brawl will finally have a real main image! -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Regarding that one guy who made those three arguments:

: 1)It is '''not''' awesome.
: 2)The joke is there, sir.
: 3)Like I care.

I'd change the image, but I can't find the concept art. [[User:G1MA|G1MA]] 19:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)G1MA

:Dude, ItsWalky is one of the ''administrators'' of this Wiki. As for the concept art, I believe I asked for it to be deleted, because troublemakers kept moving it up as the main pic in defiance of this wiki's regular members and administrative staff. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

OK, then we're in trouble. If an immature moron who thinks putting those dumb images up there are funny is an ''administrator'', then this wiki is doomed [[User:G1MA|G1MA]] 23:57, 8 May 2008 (UTC)G1MA
:So essentially, you're saying that this Wiki is [[Ruined FOREVER]]? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:I would just like to point out the hillarity of someone pointing out that someone is being immature on a wiki devoted to cartoons and children's toys. Just throwing that out there. - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 00:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::Okay, now that the guy has been banned, can we please get back to the real discussion? Will someone give me a legitimate reason as to why we cannont use Brawl's game image as his main image? As Repowers said, information is supposed to be more important than humor. If someone can just give me a decent answer (one that does not include use of inappropriate language, doubts about my masculinity, threats of administrative retaliation, insinuations about my intelligence, or insults directed at members of my family), I'll drop it. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:::How is Brawl's packaging art not informative? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
::::It's the package art from his Cyber Slammer toy, which looks nothing like any of the other toys OR his appearance in the movie and comics. People coming to the page not already knowing about the character could be confused or even put off by it. - [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 00:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
:::::As I recall, the reasoning behind using this image was basically "Brawl is supposed to be such a hulking destructive monster, therefore it's ironically funny to use his cutest possible toy." I think a major problem with that is that what this character is "supposed to be" really doesn't exist, since he's a nobody who did very little and about whom very little is popularly known. He appeared in the movie for all of 4 minutes--under a different name. I can see the humor potential in showing Grimlock's art being a childish unintelligent scribble, precisely because it feeds off those character traits everyone knows he has. But when there's already so little to go on about Brawlastator, I think it's harder to justify. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 00:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
"Brawlastator"-funny. Anyway, I was wondering, Why all the fuss? If all ''the administators'' want this image to be the Cyber Slammers one, why don't these people just accept they will not be able to get that image changed for good without using NSA to control the Web? Why make a fuss over the main image. It's a once in a while funny joke, and if you're so lazy that you're just going to look at a picture at the top of the page, and not read anything, you deserve to be confused. [[User:JimCappuccino|JimCappuccino]] 20:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)JimCappuccino
:Why not just hold a vote or something? That should settle it once and for all. (And yes, I saw [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] has previously suggested it, so please don't acuse me of being his sock. [[User:Wreck-Gar Rocks!|Wreck-Gar Rocks!]] 16:56, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I have come to a conclusion-if this issue doen't resolve itself, this wiki will tear itself apart! No but seriously, a vote would be a good idea. [[User:JimCappuccino|JimCappuccino]] 23:31, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Weapons ==

What weapons he used and how many weapons he have other han his claw that it stab Jazz with?([[User:MARV 2000|MARV 2000]] 23:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC))
:Well, he has the missle pods, main cannon, those two smaller cannons... I think maybe a machine gun or two. Basically he's a walking weapons platform. [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 03:30, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

== Seperate Devastator page? ==

Issue three of Titan's Movie comic has the editor refer to Devastator as being a seperate character who just ''looks'' like Brawl. Does this mean we should create a seperate page for the fiction's where he's Devastator, or should we stick with both on the same page on the principle that it's funner that way? [[USER:Charles RB]] 10:50, 30th March 2009 (GMT)
:Trivia note. We acknowledge it, then point out what a massive fucking headache it would entail if Brawl AND Devastator are running around. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 20:09, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
::Where does the editor say this? On a letters page? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:17, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Yeah, third issue. Sourced on the page. (And a later guy is Brawl and not Devastator cos, well, the cover says so) -[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 03:02, 20 June 2009 (GMT)
:As Hoop says; virtually everything Devastator does outside the movie is under the name "Brawl", which would result in this guy called Brawl in some cases immediately following up or working up to the handful of things Devastator does in the movie. Also, Devastator would have no toys or merchandise, despite appearing in the movie. -[[User:LV|LV]] 20:21, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
::Also, "Reign of Starscream" retcons the movie to have him identify himself as "Brawl" in its flashback to the Mission City battle, so that right right there is canon information saying they're the same character. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 20:23, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
::Gotcha. Same page it is. -- [[USER:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 03:02, 20 June 2009 (GMT)
:::Name confusion doesn't change the fact that there are two characters in Titan. Let me see... ''In the Titan continuity'', the tank featured in the film was named "Devastator". "Brawl" was a different guy ''in the Titan continuity''. If we were to make another page I would suggest that Titan "Devastator's" appearances remain here and make a new page, called "Brawl (Titan)" or something. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:14, 7 November 2009 (EST)

== Front Image ==

How about scanning the concept CGI work on the internet and crop it so the robot mode is only there?

:The sole reason for using the Cyber Slammer image is because ItsWalky finds it funny. I'm not entirely sure of the joke, but the other admins back him up. And it's not like there's much to go on for him, there's only two other full-body (second Titan and the video game) and officially the Titan one is of a different guy. -- [[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]], 01:02, 19 June 2009 (GMT)
:: Look, can we stop with this "it's only up because Walky finds it funny" thing? I am far from the only one. Considering someone who is not me just yanked the super-retarded snark-template off, I think we can put that to fucking rest. Find some other pretend reason to take it down. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:09, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
:Honestly, I'm gonna go on record here for the first time as saying I've ''never'' liked the use of the Cyber Slammers image, and if we can find something else, I wanna swap it out. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 20:05, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
::I think it's awesome and it should stay. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 20:08, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
:I would like to go on the record as saying that there is no other official art that captures the essence of his character nearly as clearly, and I am strongly opposed to changing it to something else. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 20:10, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
I scanned it. I reversed it. I cleaned it up. I put it there. It went up back when the Wiki wasn't the Big Deal it is now. I don't see the problem. There are other pictures of Devastator on the page and on the Internet. There has never been a good clean clear render of his CG model released to the public. In conclusion, I cannot believe that two years later there are still people with a bug up their butt about this. Lighten up, for god's sake. -[[User:LV|LV]] 20:11, 19 June 2009 (EDT)

:I would liek to ''further'' refuse the "because Walky thinks its funny" argument with [[Image talk:Brawl-cyber-slammer-boxart.jpg|this]] timestamped evidence to the contrary.
:I was the ''first voice'' to demand that the CC art remain Brawl's main userpic. Not Walky, '''me'''. YOU WON'T DEPRIVE ME OF MY LEGACY CHARLES. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 20:15, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
::You have no idea how tempted I am to sneakily edit my original post to say "Derik finds it funny"... -[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 03:10, 20 June 2009 (GMT)
::How about the image from the movie game that we have on the article already? It's a full body shot, it's intact. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 21:30, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
:::I would prefer that to the Cyber Slammers image. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 21:38, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
::::Nah. It's a bad pixelated pic. I choose Cyber Slammers. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:51, 19 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::Cyber Slammers seems to be the majority, so what the heck. --[[User:Charles RB|Charles RB]] 03:11, 20 June 2009 (GMT)

And the Fast Action Battlers art?--[[Special:Contributions/201.24.227.119|201.24.227.119]] 19:18, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

== Protection ==
Anons changing the main image seems like a daily occurrence, it might be a good idea to just protect the page and be done with it. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 16:57, 4 November 2009 (EST)
:I agree. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 17:10, 4 November 2009 (EST)

== Game render image ==

[[Image:Movie_Brawl_gamerender.jpg|thumb|200px|]]
This image appears to be a rare promo image from the 2007 Transformers game. I think it looks pretty cool, more or less fits the style of the other promotional renders we use on most of the other movie character articles, and it's not concept art, unlike that picture from [[Ben Procter]]'s site that anon users and wikipedia keep pushing. Comments? --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 16:52, 3 January 2010 (EST)
:As someone who's never loved the Cyber Slammers image, I'm all for using it. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:03, 3 January 2010 (EST)
::I'm for it. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 17:05, 3 January 2010 (EST)
:As an ardent supporter of Grimlock's main pic... I'd vote for the movie render for Brawl. I mean, with Grimlock, we more than know what he looks like. There's shit-tons of art of him. Brawl? Not so much. (Actually, it'd be a funny April Fools gag to for one day replace all the main images with Cyber Slammers or Robot Heroes art.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:37, 3 January 2010 (EST)
::I was thinking the exact same thing. Anyways, Brawl is just ''interesting'' to look at. He's complicated. And that promo render is ''sweet''. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 18:12, 3 January 2010 (EST)
:::I'm down with that. IIRC ''part'' of the reason we ended up with the cyber-slammer pic was the lack of an obvious alternative everyone could agree on. -[[Special:Contributions/207.224.68.64|207.224.68.64]] 18:43, 3 January 2010 (EST)
:::I like the Cyber Slammers pic but hot damn that render is awesome. I say let's use it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:47, 3 January 2010 (EST)
<nowiki>:(</nowiki>--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:45, 3 January 2010 (EST)
::::There was a watermark over his left foot, from some chinese site, so I spent the better of an hour trying to fix it. Seems to have come out alright. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 23:50, 3 January 2010 (EST)
:::: Why ya' gotta break balls? [[User:Drayco90|Drayco90]] 23:32, 14 January 2010 (EST)

-I'm a new user, so I don't want to insult anybody...but what if we use both the ''Cyber Slammer'' toy and the pic at right. I get the ''Cyber Slammer'' joke, but I also think we need to show what he looks like. =) --[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 11:51, 26 June 2010 (EDT)
:Have you visited Brawl's page recently? That pic has been Brawl's new main image since January. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:16, 26 June 2010 (EDT)

-Oops, my bad...--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 12:56, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Brawl (Movie)

2010-06-26T15:51:12Z

Megatron Prime:

Talk:Soundwave (ROTF)

2010-06-23T14:59:35Z

Megatron Prime:

==Toy in stores==
* I just got Soundwave in a shop in Belgium, is that even posible when this page says it's not on shelves now?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:51, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

== Whaa? ==

What happened to my edit? I added a mainpic then it just disappeared {{unsigned|Ikkwave}}

:The picture was crappy so it was removed. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 06:01, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

:Oh ok XD [[User:Ikkwave|Ikkwave]] 01:02, 19 June 2009 (EDT)

== Head in ROTF ==

Anybody else agree on Soundwave's head in the movie actually being that armoured decoy head the toy has on the back? Looking at the toy that matches far more with what I saw on screen, but I'll know for sure near end of this week when I go and see it again.[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 06:51, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

-The head in ROTF looks like a cross between the two.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 10:59, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
==Toy shoulders==

:''The configuration for the satellite mode depicted in the toy's instructions is not the way Soundwave appears in the film, featuring a different angling for the panels on his shoulders. It's not a big change, but transforming the toy in accordance with his movie appearance ''does'' help to distinguish the jet from the satellite a little, since otherwise, virtually the only difference is in the positioning of the large panel "wings".''

What, exactly, is that referring to? Although many fans (and the official press photos) skip it, the toy's instructions '''do''' show a change in the shoulder panels' position between the jet and the satellite: that's the only way the satellite's panels plug into them. I tried to look at the shoulders the last time I saw the movie, but they looked like the properly transformed version. Before I just delete that section, can someone show me what I'm missing? --[[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 19:32, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

:Essentially, the toy shows the panels folded down against the shoulders - not bent in the middle and actually plugged into the circular grooves as they are for jet and robot modes, but straight, flat and downwardly-pointing. In the film, they're rotated 90 degrees, fanned out, with the large, flat side (with the orange circle) facing outward. Well, inasmuch as what you see in the movie looks anything ''like'' the toy. He's got two panels fanned out on either side of his head. I suppose, though, after a moment of reflection, that his panels shift and move about so much in the film that it might be a bit negligible. It's just that without it, the only difference between the two modes is bending the shoulder panels down a bit and clicking the large wing-panels into them. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:42, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

==New main picture==

'Rise of the Decepticons' has a good double-page picture of Soundwave hacking into the American satellite, which I feel would be a better choice for main picture as it really embodies his role in the film. Would it be okay to change it, or does TFWiki have an unofficial policy that main pictures have to be of TF's in their robot mode? [[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 05:44, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
:Given that Soundwave doesn't use his robot mode in his most prominent fiction appearance, I think it would be fine if the article's main imagine was of his satellite mode. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 12:25, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
:Okay, seeing the actual picture in question... I don't think that makes a very good main pic at all. It is dominated by the actual satellite and not Soundwave himself. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 13:25, 9 July 2009 (EDT)
::I could crop it to focus entirely on Soundwave, although it looks a little odd as his main body is entirely on the left-hand side of the picture unless you crop the right wing too. I'm going to try a version where it's centered on his head and see what people think.[[User:Tarrn|Tarrn]] 18:09, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

== Repeat? ==

Did anyone else notice how two of Soundwave's scenes were the same? Specifically, his first appearance, and his last. Anyone? [[Special:Contributions/24.89.74.34|24.89.74.34]] 02:23, 10 July 2009 (EDT)

== Soundwave's Packaging ==
On the back of his packaging it says, "Cannon converts to blade!" Is it me or is there a lack of cannon?
[[User:Boxotron|Boxotron]] 12:32, 23 August 2009 (EDT)
:I believe that comes from ROTF Megatron's packaging? [[Special:Contributions/114.108.194.66|114.108.194.66]] 00:45, 8 June 2010 (EDT)

== New pictures ==

I found the ROTF screenshots from an [http://www.fxguide.com/article551.html FX Guide] interview with [[Digital Domain]]. If anyone could resize the screencaps for me or trim the black bars, since Photoshop doesn't work on my PC, that'd be much appreciated. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 07:22, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

== Rumble and Laserbeak ==

Should we make seperate pages for Rumble and Laserbeak? The two appeared as pods in the DLC for the game so thy deserve a page! and I don't care if they weren't officially named, half the animated characters are unnamed! like "freeway" "carerra" so lets make a Rumble page and a Laserbeak Page! there is no reason we shouldn't!{{unsigned|92.238.187.82|13:10, September 2, 2009 (EDT)}}
:If pages for them are created with enough effort put into them to make them presentable, they won't be deleted. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:45, 2 September 2009 (EDT)

Then lets do it!{{unsigned|92.238.187.82|15:07, September 11, 2009 (EDT)}}

They are in Nefarious 1, pictures requested.
-ThiAthEhn

== Is it really necessary? ==

Can we lose the tentacle rape line? What if kids are reading this?
: [[Kiss Players issue 1]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:07, 14 December 2009 (EST)
::What if ''non-Japanese'' kids are reading this? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:13, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::Well, then we'll have to delete all the Kiss Players articles, won't we? I mean, if the word "rape" is unacceptable, then the visuals they include are right out, aren't they? ;-P - '''McFeely, not signed in'''
::::Sweet! Oh... You are being sarcastic. I suggested that a while back but Scout shot the idea down. Personally, I think KP should not be called attention to by linking from completely unrelated articles for the sake of a... joke?. Seriously, I don't think we're doing Hasbro any favors. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:38, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Oh, I take no issue with idea of removing the word-linking. Joke works on its own without needing the link. I take issue with the whole "Think of the children!" argument. "What if kids are reading this?" is not a workable argument for removing something from the wiki when official things like ''Kiss Players'' exist. - '''McFeely'''
::::::If Hasbro were that concerned about children stumbling onto "inappropriate" Transformers content, maybe they shouldn't have had that blockbuster movie with the swearing and the humping and the testicles. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:08, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::::::We totally need a screen shot of the satellite with a caption along the lines of "Why what's such a fine little satellite like you doing all alone out here in space?", also I think my image caption is awesome and it should stay the way it is. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 14:30, 14 December 2009 (EST)

== Soundwave RPM ==

Why isn't it listed among his toys and merchandise? could someone please give me a coherent answer?.------[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 23:00, 16 March 2010 (EDT)
:"No one has gotten around to it yet". It's been officially revealed, both at Toy Fair 2010 and on [http://bwtf.com/node/1304 BWTF], so that's not an issue in this case. It might simply be a matter of waiting for the Hasbro stock photography to be released. (I forget who does most of the RPM updates... abates or apoc, I think?)
:Anyway, you might try adding "please" next time. Your statement came off as a bit impolite. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 23:20, 16 March 2010 (EDT)
:Sorry, was in a rush, tried to add the toy to the page but remembered to ask first before making any important edit
------[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 01:18, 17 March 2010 (EDT)
::I have already seen the toy in MercadoLibre (the mexican equivalent of eBay) and there's still no photo of RPM Soundwave? BTW, I believe his Legends toy needs a description, I'll take of it later.[[User:ACIDSTORM92|ACIDSTORM92]] 22:27, 25 May 2010 (EDT)

Talk:Megatron (Movie)

2010-06-23T04:30:16Z

Megatron Prime:

== Human Name jokes ==

We might as well make the article play on his human-given names.
:: I was considering a 'Super Fighting Robot Mega-Man' joke, but I don't know how many people would think that's funny. [[User:VeePickle|VeePickle]] 12:23, 27 March 2010 (EDT)

== Megatron's Cybertronian form ==

Has anyone else noticed that Megatron's vehicle form bares more than a passing resemblance to the ''Swordfish'', the personal ship flown by Spike Spiegel in ''Cowboy BeBop''? [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 02:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

::Not really, no. --[[User:EricMarrs|EricMarrs]] 12:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

:::The only difference is it's A. silver, and B. has three guns instead of one.

:I agree, it looks very similar. The wings in particular. I mean, it doesn't exactly look like THE Swordfish, but it looks like a 'mono-racer' from Bebop at least.

::::It looks more like the Zone of the Enders version of the Vic Viper than the Swordfish, at least to me it does.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 03:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

:I actually found it looked like [[Megatron (RID)|the other megatrons`]] jet mode.--[[User:Autobotx1010|Autobotx1010]] 01:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
I think I see it. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

== Earth Mode ==

According to Wikipedia and IGN, Megatron turns into a stealth bomber. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 22:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
: Until either one is verified by anything official, we're not including that "info". --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
::Reading the IGN article, they said they got this from playing an early version of the Movie's game. [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 01:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
:::Still makes it somewhere between unconfirmed second-hand report and leaked info. With this sort of thing patience is best. IF it is true we'll all no for sure soon enough and it can go up then.n--[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 02:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Seibertron reported recently that some of the production staff hinted at Megatron not getting an Earth form after all, at least in this movie. I'd say wait until the movie comes out, because even if they make a toy it's still not confirmed. [[User:King Starscream]] 13:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::From the book media I've perused, Megatron stays silvery and alieny the entire course of it all. There's other things I saw, but I shan't go into them since all these books come out tomorrow and you can spoil yourself then. [[User:Terrocon Blot]]
::::::Which book? Sounds interesting. [[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 03:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::All the kids books that come out tomorrow. The I can read, storybook, junior novels, etc. Heck, a few of the books have Megatron and Brawl standing side by side. He ain't Brawl. All these books come out tomorrow, and will be on display in your local book stores. (Seriously, this is screwed up. I can't seem to edit pages when I'm logged in.) [[User:Terrocon Blot]]
::::::::Looking at game footage, either the Stealth-Bomber Megs was an early idea that was discarded, or he gets an Earth mode later in the game. -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 19:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

==Sibling status==
I strongly question the inclusion of he and Optimus being brothers in the main bio, unless that is backed up by the movie itself, or some future toy bio, or other source stronger than books based on earlier drafts of the script. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
: If the movie does not contradict it, surely it is still true. :)
: FOr what it's worth- the prequel comics had this vibe goigng too, the ADF novelization mentions brushes by it,t he junior novelization says it explicitly... and I think there's at least 1 more source. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
: The DS game says so. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::As does the console version. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Okay, yeah. The game counts a stonger source. Although if it's not mentioned in the movie itself, I think it's going to require a footnote notation citing the places it is. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::::The Decepticon DS version also says it flat out.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::What we have now is correct, and there is no need to change anything. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 09:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
::::::For the record to future peoples, Optimus does call Megatron his bro in the movie.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 03:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
:ROTF seems to ditch the sibling idea; the plot '''hinges''' on 'the Fallen lied to you, you need to be descended from a Prime to be a Prime!', which... er... they ''can't'' be related.
:I don't dispute that these two ''are'' siblings in some continuities... but can we ''not'' make it the '''first sentence''' of his bio? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:07, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
: Could it be that, in some strange crazy way, Megatron/Optimus was adopted? This would still make them brothers in a sense.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:13, 14 August 2009 (EDT)
: -Perhaps we should consider that O.P. calls him 'brother' in more of a 'comrade' way, as in how Obi-Wan says to Anakin at the end of ''Reveng of the Sith''.--[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 00:30, 23 June 2010 (EDT)
==*More* Misassemblies==

Yeah. I just got Super Megs and, uh, his hands are flipped. Or rather, I guess it's his thumbs and pinkies. Look at the box and compare. This should probably be noted... [[User:71.61.152.122|71.61.152.122]] 07:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
:Geeeeez, you're right. Is there anything assembled ''right'' on this guy?--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 04:20, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
::I'm comparing photos at Seibertron.com, and um...I'm not seeing it.
:::It's most noticable in the picture of his macehand, but you can see it in the big one too. Don't look at 'pics' of the box, look at it with your own two eyes. >.> [[User:71.60.159.181|71.60.159.181]] 09:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== Galvatron ==

I strongly belive that the allspark will resurect megatron in a future sequel and possibly reformat him into galvatron. It'll probebly bring him back to life at least
:I don't deny that I think the AllSpark will play a part in Megs's revival, but I highly doubt (and strongly hope) that he won't become Galvatron.

== Marinas Trench ==

I realize Keller said the Decepticons were dropped into the deepest section of ocean in the world, but he calls it specifically something other than the Marinas Trench. To that end, using "Marinas Trench" doesn't seem exactly right to me. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to quite decipher what he DID call it. Was anybody else? And what does other media say about the location? --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 15:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I concur that the trench name from the film should be used here instead of the Marianas. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 15:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:Keller says "Laurentian Trench," which is a real ocean feature but by no means its deepest. He also says it's the deepest spot on the ocean at over 7 miles deep, which is correct for the Marianas. So, a fact-finding flub. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 18:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

::How dare the Secretary of Defense not be completely up to speed on the name of the deepest part of the ocean. (seriously, it's entirely possible that Keller had no idea what hte fuck he was talking about.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Either that, or Michael bay didn't do his homework.--[[User:Dynamus Prime|Dynamus Prime]] 16:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
::::Or Maybe in their Dimension, it IS the deepest? [[User:Shadow Mask Prime|Shadow Mask Prime]] 11:59, 24 May 2009 (EDT)

=="The Head Wars"==

the one present right now is a little blurry, wouldn't that one be better? [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg]--[[User:GUIGUI|GUIGUI]] 18:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
: No, because that one doesn't have the right head. We replaced the one you suggested with the current version. (Blurry? It's a sized-down version of a gigantic-ass render straight from Dreamworks.) --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
::Um, yes it does. The Current one has the wrong head. Screencap comparison coming momentarily. Please stand by. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] 19:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::There is no more-current render to move to. There is a much older, outdated one that ''somebody'' keeps reverting to, but the one we currently use is practically the one used in the movie, if not the very same. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Not the same. The top of the head in the final version is different. [[:Image:MegHeads.jpg|Here. ''Now'' tell me I'm wrong.]][[User:Inferno'sQueen|Inferno'sQueen]] 20:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

:The head we currently have is way way way way way way closer than the alternative. Find us a full-body render that's a better alternative, and we'll switch them out, but there is none. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::[http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg GUIGUI's] ''is'' the accurate head. It's just got blue eyes. But considering the eyes of some movie images on the wiki aren't even glowing ''at all'' I don't think that should be an issue.
:::Don't answer me with another block. ''Please.'' I'm just trying to help the wiki. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 16:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:::That is so totally not the final Megatron. This render showed up months before the one we're currently using, and they hadn't even finished texturing the model. Please drop the issue. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay, now I'm confused. Is the body wrong on [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg that one] or something? [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 17:22, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
:I think it's just shaded wrong(no shadows), and his torso is not completely "filled" with metal.-the preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Grand-majin|Grand-majin]]
::That doesn't seem like a good excuse. And please sign your posts. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|Mr. Q]] 15:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I looked at the image again, and it does look a bit odd. But not very much. I suggest a poll/survey of the admins to decide who thinks it should be Meg's main pic, as the torso bit is the only problem. It won't be visible in thumbnail format anyhow. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::The Megatron model has two heads, a standard head and the battle head. The final promotional render with all the completed surface detail, which we are using, uses the standard head. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Admins, please put "Yes" after your name if you think the current image should be changed to [http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/tfbay5.jpg this one], or "No" if you think it should stay as-is.[[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The current poll:

[[User:ItsWalky]]: He hasn't officially voted yet, but it seems as though his answer will be '''"No."'''

[[User:Steve-o]]:Insert vote here

[[User:Suki Brits]]:I think she says '''"No,"''' too.

[[User:Chris McFeely]]:Insert vote here

:If I missed an admin, please notify them and add them here. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::you know, the admins aren't the only ones who have a say in this. And given that the model in the current image is almost if not completely identical to the one used in the movie it should be left as is. IMO, your argument is kinda like saying we need a new main image for [[Optimus Primal]] because it has a mouth doesn't have a full faceplate like the final model, even though the final model had both "mouth" and "faceplate" versions. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 19:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Well, we can't poll ''everyone''. I'm relatively new, lucky enough to have found the admins listed somewhere. I wouldn't know who else to ask. And That Primal thing does not make sense. I ''know'' he had a mouth ''and'' a [[mouthplate]]. I'm saying the current image has the '''''wrong head''''', and it should be fixed. [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 20:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::::This is bordering on farce.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:::::Agreed. If Inferno's Queen does not immediately drop the matter, I will get rid of her for refusing to stop wasting all of our time and polluting the Recent changes page with this retarded personal gripe. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:::::<big>'''I'''</big>

:::::<big>'''AM'''</big>

:::::<big>'''A'''</big>

:::::<big>'''GUY!'''</big> [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

:Inferno's Queen, it's like I said on the image's talk page: we don't have a full body shot of Megatron's final design, so we're going with the most accurate one. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

After the poll is completed, this will end. Deal?[[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
:...you don't get to dictate policy to admins.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 20:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
::That's not quite true. If she keeps this up, she'll likely dictate a permaban on herself :p --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 00:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
:::Fine already! I'll leave the issue alone if you stop calling me a girl!
:::<big>'''''I AM A GUY!!!'''''</big> [[User:Inferno'sQueen|The Big Q]] 12:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, dude, is this all you've got to offer?! This is such an incredibly minor issue that it's nowhere worth the amount of discussion that has already gone on about it. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

This is mind-blowingly petty. I don't feel the need to express any opinion on the matter, it's pretty damn clear what the consensus is. --[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 04:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

== video game info ==

should we edit it to have more info on megatron in the game?
:...Deathy? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

==Weapon names==
The article currently contains the current text in its movie summary: "Megatron declared that if Prime wished to defend them, he should die with them, forming his fusion cannon. Before he could fire, the Autobot leader drew his ion blaster and fired, hitting Megatron." Do we have any reason/justification for referring to those weapons so specifically as a fusion cannon and ion blaster? --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 00:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:In the trivia section of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Prime]]'s article, it's called an ion blaster. As for the fusion cannon...-- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 01:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
::Doesn't Leader Megatron's toy packaging say "Arms combine to form fusion cannon!" or something along those lines? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
:::Answering my own question by looking up DVD's review, yes it does. And the product listing at Hasbro.com says: "Robot mode also features a launching rocket claw that becomes a chain whip, and arms that combine to create a fusion cannon!" --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 01:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

==Language==
According to the Circuit City voice featurette, the producers made up an alien language (or Hugo Weaving did, the wording is vague), and Weaving is shown speaking in it as Megatron. Did this make it into the final film? --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 14:10, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:There *is* a Cybertronian language spoken by several characters (Frenzy most notably, I guess, plus Starscream, and actually 'every' Decepticon during the call-up scene) but nobody really knows if it's just jibberish with a flanger on or something. That, and Megs 'never' speaks Cybertronian in the movie, so this makes it even stranger. The idea behind the Cybertronians speaking a different language isn't Weaving's, however, because that was in the leaked script that came out long before Weaving was cast. [[User:71.60.159.181|71.60.159.181]] 23:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
::Actually Megatron did speak Cybertronian in the movie (it was during when he first landed in Mission City).

==Encased in ice at the bottom of the ocean?==
Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no ice at the bottom of the ocean. Ice is less dense than water so any particles cold enough to freeze float above those who aren't cold enough. (Contrary to normal laws of convection; ice is weird like that) so Megatron and the Decepticons wouldn't be icy at all. Just really cold and crushed under immense water pressure.

: Indeed, because water increases in volume when it freezes,t the freezing point of water ''decreases'' with pressure, i.e. it becomes harder to freeze water which is under pressure. This is the reason why liquid oceans are believed to exist under Europa's icy coating, for example. [[Special:Contributions/137.195.68.169|137.195.68.169]] 07:21, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

==Megu said ''what''?==
When Megu arrives in Mission City, he says two sentences. Just when he lands, he says something that I heard as "Let me play!" But what did he say after that? Because, the article says that Megu again declared his name when arriving in M City, but he didn't sound like that. Will someone clarify what exactly he said? StarShade 09:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
:He was speaking Cybertronian, no-one knows exactly what he says. Although he does appear to pronounce his name one more time.

==Premium==
Does anyone know if the premium series leader Megatron has corrected the assembly errors?--[[User:Skyglide|Skyglide]] 19:53, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

==Screen Grabs==
Well since the trailer has been offically released, and Megatron has a few good clear shots in it, can we post a pic or two under ROTF? Mainly the one where he apparently comes out of the water, which appears to be the best looking shot. Just a sugestion.--[[User:AWT88|AWT88]] 17:47, 2 May 2009 (EDT)

==Triple Changer in ROTF?==
Now, I'm terribly sorry I don't have more info than this, but I was at the mall w/ my GF and picked up a guide to ROTF. Most of the info seemed pretty modern and accurate (things like Jetfire being a seeker and such) and they said that upon his revival, Megatron had become a triple-changer, able to take both modes. I don't know the name of it although... nope, can't find it on Amazon. Can someone else comment on this matter? Has anything been shown to support this or has anyone else seen this guide? The store owner said it was just put out that day, so this may be new. IDK. --[[User:Rideonshootingstarxx|Rideonshootingstarxx]] 20:57, 7 June 2009 (EDT)
:This is correct. In the adaptation he assumes both alt-forms.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:18, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
::In the adaptations he never really "becomes" a triple-changer. At least they don't mention that he ever gains the ability. He just shown to be able to transform into three modes. I'm not sure if we are supposed to believe he always had the ability but didn't have an occasion to turn into a tank before or what. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:36, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Having bought the book now, I can confirm that it says Megatron's status as a triple-changer is the result of his revival, and that it is fairly rare amongst Cybertronians.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:19, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:::Slight problem. In the novels and what not, he is distinctly described as retaining his jet mode. In the actual film, all scenes where he uses the jet, well, lack it [[User:Eire]]
::::Not really a problem. Adaptations have been mismatched before, and as long as ''one'' source calls him a a triple-changer, in those exact words, it's valid. We don't really need to reconcile the adaptations. That's not our job.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:39, 20 June 2009 (EDT)
:::::From what I remember in the movie you never get a clear look at his flight mode, just the blue glow of his afterburners in the distance. He definitely has a tank mode, but I couldn't tell whether his flight mode is just the tank with the jet engines turned on or a separate vehicle mode, or the tank with wings... Heck it could be a giant flying lunchbox for all I could see. [[User:(Undecided)|(Undecided)]] 17:03, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::His flight mode is a flat square-ish thing - basically, the Voyager toy, but steel instead of green.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:04, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

== G1 homage, anyone? ==
His head has a helmet-like portion very similar to the helmet-like section of G1 Megatron's head. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 21:15, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
:Not really.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:17, 14 June 2009 (EDT)
::Well, yeah. He does really.

== Robot Mode flight ==

Is that a new ability? I don't seem to recall him being able to just fly around in the first movie, but it has been a while since I've seen it. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 09:28, 27 June 2009 (EDT)

: Do you mean when he lands on the skyscraper, or was there another instance? I figured that he was just continuing on the momentum when he popped out of flying tank mode. How do his jet engines configure in robot mode, maybe they helped? [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 17:23, 27 June 2009 (EDT)
::I was going by memory of the movie. Of course Megatron and the other Decepticons swam up from the abyss. That is multi-ton metal robots swimming to the surface. That is almost flying. Then when they got to open air, I seem to remember them just flying away in robot-mode, but I can't say for certain without seeing it again. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:47, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
:::That's right, I'd forgotten about that. We should check whether his boosters were in some sort of "jetpack configuration" for that shot (like Starscream's thrusters), that would square it up. [[Special:Contributions/82.41.72.10|82.41.72.10]] 19:49, 28 June 2009 (EDT)
::He uses his jet-tank mode to fly in both instances (seemingly transforming just as he breaks the surface when underwater). I checked.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 19:58, 28 June 2009 (EDT)

==Toy split==
I think it's well past time we split the toys into their own subpage... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:28, 17 July 2009 (EDT)
* Seconded. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 15:12, 12 August 2009 (EDT)
**I agree. --[[Special:Contributions/99.232.46.76|99.232.46.76]] 15:59, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

==Reviewing the toys on the wiki==
As long as users such as Walky are (rightly) removing the reviewish comments from the toy descriptions, is there any way one of us can rewrite Movie 1 Legends Megatron's description? The whole thing is taking shots at the toy. If it's inappropriate for the larger Megatrons in the line, then it's inappropriate for this one as well. [[User:Fiction Alchemist|C. V. Reynolds]] 17:56, 5 August 2009 (EDT)

==ROTF Megatron prototype on the back of the box==
:"In a rather bizarre twist, the back of megatron's box depicts him with no feet, the foot part of the threads simply did not exist in the test shot prototype. It also appears the threads were originally longer. The button to hold the blade back did not exist either. The prototype even had a production error: the small wheels molded on the back threads are molded on the wrong side, thus they end up on the top of the threads instead of the bottom." I've originaly posted this with they toy after looking at the box for some time. The toy realy did not have feet like the final toy, the threads were also alot shorter then the final toy. I know that the discription i gave it is not done all that well, but i still stand that it's worth to note.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 13:00, 8 August 2009 (EDT)

:Anyone? Am i realy the only one who thinks the legs almost have totaly difrently molded legs?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 15:01, 14 August 2009 (EDT)

== Triple change: misinformation or abandoned concept? ==

The article states that [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|The Movie Universe]] and [[Revenge of the Fallen Movie Adaptation|comic adaptation]] created the idea of Megatron being a triple changer. However, the [[Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|novelization]] mentions that he's a fighter jet several times, and that he takes his tank mode during the battle in Egypt. Additionally, the previsual shots shown on the special two-disc pack show Megatron chasing down Optimus Prime while in jet mode. Is it possible that Megatron really was meant to be a triple changer, and it was simply dropped from the final cut? We an cite plenty of stuff like that happening in the adaptations. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 20:57, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
:Didn't someone (Orci?) claim that they wanted to save triple changers for movie 3, and there was thus never going to be triple-changing within the movie itself? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 21:37, 23 October 2009 (EDT)

== Beast wars homage? ==

The rotf voyager toy, kinda looks like beast wars megatron. (Big two finger "claw on the right side, wings and dinosaurish legs)