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Rust Dust

2019-07-12T16:19:26Z

MissRatbat: Oz stores. Bought one there.

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:''Rust Dust is a [[Caminus (planet)|Camien]] [[Autobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''
[[File:RustDust-charactermodel.jpg|right|thumb|200px|You don't know what hard times are, daddy.]]

'''Rust Dust''' is unbalanced in multiple senses. She's wobbly enough as a motorcycle that her teammates wonder how she stays on two wheels, and she's got hair-trigger reflexes that send her racing off at the merest possibility of an enemy. Often she's as likely to be racing into danger as out of it, but to Rust Dust's line of thinking a moving target is just harder to hit. And if she leads her friends on a wild turbofox chase... again... well there are worse things. Add in her upbeat, go-get-em attitude, and even an unbalanced little scrapper like her can inspire her larger, stronger teammates.

She can combine with her fellow [[Torchbearer]]s to form [[Victorion]].

==Fiction==
===2005 IDW continuity===
:*''First Appearance:'' [[An Uneventful Night|Transformers: Combiner Hunters #1]]

[[File:GhostStories-rustdust.jpg|thumb|left|300px|When animals attack.]]

Rust Dust derived her name from [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|an old poem]] that was part of the [[Light of the Forgefire]].

Rust Dust accompanied her fellow [[Torchbearer]]s on a mission to [[Parvus Oppidum]], an all but abandoned mining town that had recently been beset by bandits after the town's meager energon supply. Though things were quiet when they first arrived, the marauders soon returned and caught the Torchbearers off guard. Rust Dust's friend [[Fastbreak (G1)|Fastbreak]] was killed in the ensuing battle, a fate she narrowly avoided sharing. Eventually a black hole opened up under the town, prompting Rust Dust and her fellow Torchbearers to get to work trying to protect the townspeople. After the singularity and the marauders disappeared, leaving Parvus in ruins, the devastated Rust Dust held Fastbreak's corpse in her arms.

Some time later, Rust Dust began a friendship with fellow Torchbearer [[Pyra Magna|Pyra]], who had similarly been shaken by the events at Parvus. On one of their meetings, Pyra inquired about the origins of her name. After being named leader of the Torchbearers, Pyra Magna made Rust Dust part of her team. {{storylink|Ghost Stories}}

Soon after [[Caminus (planet)|Caminus]] entered the [[Council of Worlds]], her team was sent to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to search for the remains of [[Crystal City]].

[[File:AnUneventfulNight-Rustdust.jpg|right|thumb|250px|DanananadaDADA! Dusty POWER!]]

It was Rust Dust that spotted strangers entering the [[Rust Sea|Sea of Rust]] and alerted Magna. That led to them intervening in a fight between [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|some rando called Arcee]] and [[Cityspeaker]] [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] herself, with Arcee attempting to destroy the fabled [[Enigma of Combination]]. A horrified Rust Dust tried to save the Enigma and in the process, she accidentally turned all her team into the new combiner Victorion!

After a brief rampage, the gestalt separated and Rust Dust suggested they hide the Enigma on Caminus, if Arcee was so worried [[Starscream (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Starscream]] would use it. Windblade overrode her, saying they needed to ensure Cybertron and Caminus stayed allies. {{storylink|An Uneventful Night}}

The Torchbearers opted to stay in the Rust Sea for a time, still learning to control their new powers. The inhabitants of the wasteland soon learned to avoid them. On one occasion, the team appeared to scare off a group of zombified [[Sweep (G1)|Sweep]]s. {{storylink|The Transformers: Redemption|Redemption}}

They remained in exile until [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]]—seeking answers about what it ''truly'' meant to be a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]—decided to visit the group. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 1: Aphelion|Aphelion}} Merging into Victorion, the Torchbearers tested Optimus's physical and spiritual resolve. Optimus's agnosticism about the [[Matrix of Leadership]] prompted Victorion to lay claim to the Matrix and vow to build Optimus into a worthy Prime. {{storylink|Conquerors Part 2: Lagrange|Lagrange}}

She went to Earth with the other Torchbearers, remaining out of sight for some time, though she was a part of the combiner when they saved Optimus from a human-built kilsat. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 2: Edge of the Earth|Edge of the Earth}} And again when Victorion went into battle against the [[Seeker clone|human-made combiner]]s, at least until the combiner was forcibly separated thanks to trickery from [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] leaving Rust Dust and her teammates floating at the bottom of the [[Indian Ocean]]. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 4: It's Beginning To And Back Again|It's Beginning To And Back Again}} Knocked out by the separation, she remained unconscious while the other Autobots figured out how to end Galvatron's control over combiners. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 5: As Above...So Below|As Above...So Below}}

By the time that the Torchbearers had regained consciousness, the fight had already moved offworld. {{storylink|All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights}} Rust Dust and the Torchbearers helped round up the stragglers. {{storylink|White Light}} Though exhausted from the fighting, they were forced to form Victorion again to see off the Earth Defense Command. {{storylink|White Heat}}

After several uneventful months on Earth, the Torchbearers were later deployed to [[Oregon]] to defend Arcee and [[Jazz (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Jazz]] from a [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] attack. As Victorion, they used their gravity powers to harmlessly incapacitate human aircraft in the wake of [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]]'s EMP attack. {{storylink|Concorde Hymn}} The Torchbearers remained on guard outside [[Metrotitan (Zone)|Metrotitan]] as the Transformers attempted to diffuse the growing [[Ore-13]] crisis that threatened to destroy Earth. When the [[Dire Wraith]]s and [[M.A.S.K.]] dropped all pretenses and attacked the city for its Ore-13 supplies, {{storylink|The New Colossus}} Victorion and the other Autobots defended their base from their combined forces and the monstrous [[Baron Karza]]. Overwhelmed by a tide of Dire Wraiths, Victorion split into her components to even the playing field. {{storylink|Valley Forge}}

When that crisis had passed, the Autobots and their new allies - including G.I. Joe and some recently arrived Transformer colonists with religious aspirations - turned their attention back to stabilizing the increasingly volatile Earth. The Torchbearers accompanied Optimus Prime when they travelled to the [[Matterhorn]] and intercept an alien craft on a collision course with Earth. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 1: To Walk Among the Chosen|To Walk Among the Chosen}} As Victorion, the Torchbearers stood guard as the [[Junkion (species)|Junkion]]s disembarked from their craft, and watched as their leaders [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] and [[Rum-Maj]] parleyed with Optimus Prime. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 2: A Lonely Pillar on the Plain|A Lonely Pillar on the Plain}}

Rust Dust and the Torchbearers stood by when Pyra Magna finally came to blows with Optimus Prime over his hypocrisy of leading via religious mandate when he himself did not believe. Nevertheless, they attended the meeting between the peoples of Earth, Cybertron, and Junk arranged by the Prime. Which, of course, immediately descended into open warfare. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 4: Dance Among the Shadows|Dance Among the Shadows}} They engaged the attacking Junkions on the orders of the Prime, forming Victorion to deal with their foes. {{storylink|New Cybertron Part 5: Future Glories Lost|Future Glories Lost}} In the aftermath of the battle, the Junkions were given [[Marshall Islands|Bikini Atoll]] as a refugee city, building their own [[Little Cybertron]] on the island, with the somewhat reluctant assistance of the Torchbearers.{{storylink|The Next Day, and the Next}}

Rust Dust was at Autobot City when Metrotitan's Space Bridge ferried Earth's envoy of ambassadors to Cybertron to be accepted into the Council of Worlds. When contact with Cybertron was cut off, she and the Torchbearers locked down Autobot City in case an attack was directed back through the bridge. {{storylink|Primeless, Part 1}}

The Torchbearers awaited Optimus Prime at Autobot City when he returned from the [[Ore-13]] mines with a supply of energon for Cybertron. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 1: Surfeit of Primes|Surfeit of Primes}} A situation developed when he delivered the energon to Cybertron, but Pyra Magna chose to keep her forces in reserve rather than rush to the Prime's side. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 2: Another Mine|Another Mine}} Of course, they had no say in the matter once Autobot City acted on its own accord and transported to Cybertron through its own Space Bridge portal. Metrotitan was then murdered by the [[Nemesis (BWII)|Nemesis]], flagship of the prodigal Prime, [[Onyx Prime]]. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 3: The Ground|The Ground}}

In the wreckage of Metrotitan, the Torchbearers were faced the [[Maximal]]s of [[Liege Maximo]] and the fanatical combiner, [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. They formed Victorion in order to better defend their allies. The power of Devastator seemed to be so great that he overcame Victorion's gravity-manipulation abilities. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 4: The Hallowing|The Hallowing}} Victorion's fight with Devastator went poorly for some time and he held the upper hand. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 5: Endless Forever|Endless Forever}} Eventually, however, it was revealed that the Liege Maximo manipulated the gravity power of [[Ore-4]] to counteract Victorion's powers. Once Arcee dispatched him, Devastator fell easily and was pulverized by sustained gravimetric pressure. Rust Dust and the Torchbearers disconnected as Pyra Magna confronted Onyx Prime in his true form as [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] of the Decepticons. {{storylink|The Falling, Chapter 6: Unforgivable|Unforgivable}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Earth Wars''===
[[file:RustDustEarthWars.jpg|thumb|upright=1.75| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A_lDhpQYFI&t=124s Rust Dust.... Hmmm..... That name's not tongue twisty enough. How about Rust Crust Must Gust Just Dust?]]]
Rust Dust has a habit of acting first and thinking later, tearing off into danger and rationalizing that a moving target is harder to hit than any target at all. The merest whiff of an enemy heat signature and she's away, more often than not leading the others on a wild goose chase.

She's so imbalanced, her teammates wonder how she manages to stay on two wheels, but often her hair-trigger instincts have proven invaluable. {{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars| Rust Dust bio}}

Rust Dust came to Earth alongside the rest of the Torchbearers, save Pyra Magna.
Rust Dust doesn't really do much, Campaign wise.

Rust Dust along with the other torchbearers were in the Polyhex district on a scouting mission looking for the Dinobot Sludge. They couldn't find any trace of the big lug until Pyra Magna noticed a broken cerbero shell.
{{storylink|Transformers: Earth Wars/Events| Polyhex Saga}}

*'''Class''': Special
*'''Lowest Star Rating''': 3 Stars (2 star in Beta)
*'''Weapons''': Rust Dust uses a Stun gun of the same make as Bumblebee. She can also back flip to avoid Cannon or Mortar fire.
*'''Ability: Artillery Support''': Call in Artillery at your current position and get away! Deals massive damage in a large area
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Generations===
[[File:CombinerWarstoy-RustDust.jpg|right|thumb|300px|There were two bad people... one was John Wayne, and he's dead, brother, and the other's right here.]]
*'''Victorion''' (Collection Pack, 2016)

:''[[Combiner Wars (toyline)|Combiner Wars]]'' Rust Dust is a [[retool]] of Legends Class [[Groove (G1)#Generations|Protectobot Groove]] from the same toy line, and transforms into a motorcycle. She can combine with her teammates [[Pyra Magna#Generations|Pyra Magna]], [[Skyburst (G1)#Generations|Skyburst]], [[Stormclash#Generations|Stormclash]], [[Dust Up#Generations|Dust Up]], [[Jumpstream#Generations|Jumpstream]], and [[Rust Dust#Generations|Rust Dust]], and forms the chestplate of Victorion.

:Like the rest of her Torchbearers, Rust Dust features Cybertronic tampographs on her vehicle mode, which reads "''Far Away''" on her right and "''Never Roam''" on the left.

:Rust Dust was only available as part of a Victorion box set, including a poster and a collector card based on the set's packaging art. The set was one of several so-called "Collection Packs" that were "online exclusives" in the United States, available from online retailers such as [[Hasbro Toy Shop]], [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]], and [[BigBadToyStore]] as well as the online stores of "big box" retailers such as [[Toys"R"Us]], [[Walmart]], [[Target]], and [[Kmart]]. In Hasbro's Asian markets such as Singapore and Taiwan, the set was available at general retail. In Australia, it was sold at Toys"R"Us and Big W stores, whereas in Canada, was both sold at Toys"R"Us stores and available via Amazon Canada. In the United Kingdom, it was available via the UK Toys"R"Us website (but never sold in stores), whereas in Spain, it was available via the Spanish subsidiaries of [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] and Carrefour, as well as the department store chain El Corte Inglés, supposedly also only available online.

:This sculpt was also used to make ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 toyline)|Adventure]]'' [[Override (Adventure)|Override]] and was [[retool]]ed into ''Combiner Wars'' [[Wreck-Gar (G1)#Generations|Wreck-Gar]]. It also served as the model for the non-toy ''[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]'' character [[Vampire (BW)|Vampire]] and the ''[[Spatiotemporal Challengers]]'' incarnation of [[Scooter (GoBots)|Scooter]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2016/Autobot/CWRustDust/rustdust.htm More information on Rust Dust at TFU.info]''
{{--}}

==Notes==
*Early appearances of Victorion in the comics had an unfortunate tendency to omit Rust Dust.
*Much like Groove, when Rust Dust is drawn as part of Victorion, she's often drawn upside-down—with the front wheel erroneously pointing down instead of correctly up. This is presumably due to the fact that she appears that way in all stock photography.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Rust Dust''' (ラストダスト ''Rasuto Dasuto'')
*''Mandarin:'' '''Xiù Chén''' (锈尘, "Rust Dust")

[[Category:Caminus]]
[[Category:Combiner Wars Autobots]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]
[[Category:IDW (2005) Autobots]]
[[Category:Torchbearers]]

Siloed

2019-07-08T14:52:46Z

MissRatbat: Keeping Acid Storm consistent with their page.

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Transformers: Cyberverse]]'' ep 14
|image=Siloed-WindbladeCaptured.jpg
|caption="What the hell am I looking at? When does this happen in the movie?" "Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now."
|prev=Matrix of Leadership (episode)
|next=King of the Dinosaurs
|title="Siloed"
|airdate=[[November 17]], [[2018]] (Singapore) [[November 30]], 2018 (CN app/website) [[December 1]], 2018 (USA)
|production company=[[Allspark Animation]]
|writer=[[Mairghread Scott]]
|animation studio=[[Boulder Media Studio]]
|director=[[Jean Texier]]
}}
'''The Seekers attempt to extract the location of the Ark from Windblade's memories.'''

==Synopsis==
''On [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], Bumblebee plays with a training [[Cube (sport)|cube]] with [[Windblade (Cyberverse)|Windblade]], and despite his best efforts it's the [[Caminus (planet)|Camien]] who gets the upper hand. The two friends agree to a rematch...'' and Windblade is unaware that this entire experience is just one of her many memories, replayed for the benefit of [[Slipstream (Cyberverse)|Slipstream]]!

Windblade briefly comes to long enough to fruitlessly struggle against her bonds; although Slipstream asserts that they've gotten everything they need from Windblade's [[brain module]], Windblade is able to call the Decepticon's bluff by goading Slipstream's toadies [[Thundercracker (Cyberverse)|Thundercracker]] and [[Acid Storm (Cyberverse)|Acid Storm]] into revealing that they don't have what they need yet. Slipstream orders the two to perform a [[mind rip]], potentially jeopardizing Windblade, but, as Slipstream points out, they need ''all'' the data they can extract from her mind. They do so, but Slipstream is frustrated by the lack of ''useful'' data, and so she storms over and cranks the console controlling the [[cortical psychic patch]] up as far as it can go. Before she can assess the results, [[Thrust (Cyberverse)|Thrust]] calls with a message for the Seeker leader: it's almost time for her report to [[Starscream (Cyberverse)|Starscream]]... and this time, [[Shockwave (Cyberverse)|Shockwave]] will be sitting in on the meeting as well.

Slipstream leaves, ordering her subordinates to continue the process while she stalls for time with the Decepticon air commander. The pair crank up the machine as high as it will go to get results as fast as possible; in doing so, however, the feedback triggers a debilitating pulse of energy, knocking the pair offline and radiating through the entire Decepticon complex... including Slipstream.

Slipstream comes to some time later to the sound of an irate Starscream berating her for wasting their time. Staggering over to the console, she does her best to cover for her recent failures, but Starscream isn't having any of it, unaware that her guards are offline and Windblade has taken advantage of the pulse to break free and escape, hacking into the Decepticon's files. Starscream shouts that as soon as ''he'' shows up on Earth, he'll demote her as low as she can go before terminating the call; Shockwave, on the other hand, points out that for all her failures she's done one thing right: she's located the [[space bridge]] that brought Windblade to Earth in the first place, and if [[Perceptor (Cyberverse)|Perceptor]] could fix it, than so can Slipstream and her Seekers. Shockwave tells her that he has a plan of his own; he's coming to Earth to find the ''Ark'' and seize the AllSpark for himself.

Windblade's exploration of the Decepticon files continue apace until her two guards also come to, and after dispatching them once more Windblade makes her escape, disarming [[Nova Storm (Cyberverse)|Nova Storm]] and Thrust along the way. With all of her guards down, Slipstream takes matters into her own hands and goes after her Autobot escapee, stealing her [[Stormfall Sword]] after taking her out. The pair duel in the missile silo's central antechamber, with Windblade's detachable fans proving more than a match for the Seeker. Eventually, Windblade is able to retrieve her sword and make a break for the exit... only for Slipstream to recover and try to drag her back in - at which point she's rescued by [[Bumblebee (Cyberverse)|Bumblebee]] and [[Teletraan-X (Cyberverse)|Teletraan-X]]! The drone explains how they came to retrieve her, and as the trio reunite Windblade explains how she's escaped with some information of her own that she liberated from the Decepticon network—the location of another Autobot!

==Featured characters==
Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in flashbacks. 
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Bumblebee (Cyberverse)|Bumblebee]] (1)
*[[Windblade (Cyberverse)|Windblade]] (2)

|c2=
*[[Slipstream (Cyberverse)|Slipstream]] (3)
*[[Thundercracker (Cyberverse)|Thundercracker]] (4)
*[[Acid Storm (Cyberverse)|Acid Storm]] (5)
*[[Thrust (Cyberverse)|Thrust]] (6)
*[[Nova Storm (Cyberverse)|Nova Storm]] (7)
*[[Shockwave (Cyberverse)|Shockwave]] (8)
*[[Starscream (Cyberverse)|Starscream]] (9)

|c4=
*[[Teletraan-X (Cyberverse)|Teletraan-X]] (10)
}}

==Quotes==
'''Slipstream:''' "We know ''everything''. I'm simply waiting for the command from Starscream to deactivate you. Something I'll do with ''pleasure''." 
'''Windblade:''' "...hm. Thundercracker. Is any of that true?" 
'''Thundercracker:''' "Well, not really, but it's scarier that way." 
'''Slipstream:''' "''THUNDERCRACKER!''"

"Much has been learned. Even if you have not learned it. I do not blame you, as it is well understood that Seekers have extremely low intelligence. This image shows how Windblade came to Earth. The spacebridge she used was undoubtedly repaired by Perceptor, which means that it can be repaired again, by you and your Seekers." 
"Of course, sir! We can repair the space bridge-" 
"That is unlikely... unless you have simple, easy-to-follow instructions fit for a mindless drone. They are being transmitted to you now." 
:—'''Shockwave''''s racism doesn't impress '''Slipstream'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Bumblebee was established to be a fan of the game of [[Cube (sport)|cube]] in the episode "[[Cube (episode)|Cube]]" and "[[Maccadam's]]." Windblade's memory presumably takes place early in the war, as Cybertron is not yet destroyed but Bumblebee is wearing an Autobot Insignia, which he did not claim until after the declaration of war in "[[Megatron Is My Hero]]".
*Windblade's memories are clips taken from prior episodes. These include:
**Windblade after going into Bumblebee's memories fails, from "[[Memory (Cyberverse)|Memory]]"
**Seekers flying in formation, from "[[Fractured]]"
**[[Maccadam]] introducing himself, from the first flashback in "[[Maccadam's]]"
**Windblade flying through the [[space bridge]] to [[Earth]], from "Fractured"
**Windblade hugging Bumblebee before the ''Ark'''s departure, from "Memory"
**The bar standoff, from the second flashback of "Maccadam's"
**Windblade vs. Nova Storm, from "[[Whiteout]]"
**Bumblebee first accesses his memories, from "Memory"
**Windblade and Bumblebee hiding behind a billboard, from "[[Teletraan-X (episode)|Teletraan-X]]"
**Windblade and Bumblebee share a drink, from the final memory in "Maccadam's"
**Windblade and Bumblebee sparring with one another, from "[[Shadowstriker]]"
**Windblade and Slipstream's fight, from "Whiteout"
*The ability of the cortical psychic patch to generate a debilitating pulse of energy if overloaded was first established in "[[Fractured]]." That episode also had Windblade establish how she arrived on Earth via the space bridge, as well as having Perceptor repair it.

===Transformers references===
*This episode establishes that Windblade's signature energy sword is called the "[[Stormfall Sword]];" the name is as old as the character of Windblade herself, having been created as her first toy's main accessory, but the sword has never actually been ''referred'' to by name anywhere, not even the [[2005 IDW continuity]], until this episode.

===Real-world references===
*TBD

===Trivia===
*Acid Storm's animation model is tweaked starting with this episode, giving them the same ("female type") Seeker head as Nova Storm and Slipstream, instead of the "male type" previously used.
*This episode marks the first time any of Windblade's personal memories have been seen.

===Animation and technical errors===
*Slipstream's wings retract in, then extend out again without any animation, after the Seekers wake up Windblade.
*Slipstream's wings retract without animation ''again'' when she leaves to speak to Shockwave and Starscream. They are extended when she gets hit by the energy wave.
*Nova Storm once again lacks the trim on her cockpit, an error carried over from the last ''three'' episodes.
*Thundercracker's eyes are open when Windblade wakes up after the energy blast, despite still being unconscious.
*When Windblade throws one of the machines at Thundercracker, his cockpit is light blue and lacks any trim or Decepticon symbol.
*When Windblade runs into Slipstream, her wings are extended, only to be retracted in the next shot, lacking any animation in between.

===Foreign localization===
'''French'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Captive'''"
:*''Original airdate:'' [[November 18]], 2018

'''German'''
:*''Title:'' "'''In Gefangenschaft'''" ("Trapped")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[January 12]], 2019

'''Hungarian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Silóban'''" ("In a Silo")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[February 23]], 2019
:**Oddly, the dub features borderline swearing. Thundercracker almost calls Windblade an "Autobitch" before Slipstream cuts him off.

'''Italian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''In Trappola'''" ("Trapped")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[December 8]], 2018

==Home video releases==
*TBA

==External links==
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UgXSkuFyeI "Siloed" on YouTube] (US only)

[[Category:Cyberverse episodes]]

Aerialbots over America!

2019-06-07T14:59:18Z

MissRatbat: Height.

{{comicstory|seriesissue=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|''The Transformers'' (US)]] #21
|prev=Showdown!
|next=Heavy Traffic!
|title="Aerialbots over America!"
|seriesissue2=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|''The Transformers'' (UK)]] #89–90
|prev2=Cybertron: The Middle Years!
|next2=Heavy Traffic!
|image=MarvelUS-21.jpg
|caption=
|publisher=[[Marvel Comics]]
|date=June [[1986]]
|coverdate=October 1986
|writer=[[Bob Budiansky]]
|penciler=[[Don Perlin]]
|inkers=[[Ian Akin]] and [[Brian Garvey]]
|colorist=[[Nelson Yomtov|Nel Yomtov]]
|letterer=[[Janice Chiang]]
|editor=[[Michael Carlin]]
|continuity=[[Marvel Comics continuity]]
}}
'''Bombshell controls a human with a cerebro shell and is challenged by the Aerialbots.'''

==Synopsis==
Recent arrival [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] uses a [[cerebro-shell]] to force hydroelectric engineer [[Ricky Vasquez]] to bring [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] into the plant at [[Hoover Dam]], as part of a plan to steal the plant's energy and transport it to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. Meanwhile, [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] returns to the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] with [[Donny Finkleberg]] to inform them that [[Cybertron Seven|seven Autobots]] were accidentally transported to [[Earth]]. [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] sends [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] and Finkleberg to investigate. The [[Autobot]]s then receive word of the invasion of the hydroelectric plant, and the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], recently created by [[Wheeljack (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Wheeljack]] using the stolen [[combiner]] technology, are dispatched to deal with the situation.

[[File:Aerialbots disassemble marvel 21.jpg|thumb|left|"Can you fly this plane and land it?" "Surely you can't be serious!" "I am serious. And don't call me Shirley."]]
Only the Aerialbot leader, [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], has been given a complete personality, and the other Aerialbots are not yet programmed to defend [[human]] life. When the Aerialbots combine into Superion, Silverbolt must fight to influence the combined form from within in order to keep Superion from killing Vasquez. Forced to disassemble rather than kill Vasquez, the mission seems doomed to failure.

But Vasquez, seeing [[Maria Vasquez|his daughter]] break through the police line to call out to her daddy, breaks through the cerebro-shell's programming, and fires Megatron into the [[space bridge]], causing it to return to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. As the Aerialbots fly away, Bombshell hitches a ride on Silverbolt's wing.

Meanwhile, at an airstrip in [[New Jersey (Earth)|New Jersey]], the newly-formed [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]] unloads and processes their cargo - the seven Autobots who recently arrived from Cybertron! Their heads are removed and hung on the wall at the behest of the unit's leader... [[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]]!

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
{{collist|2|
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] (8)
*[[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ratchet]] (9)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] (10)
*[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] (12)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Bumblebee]] (13)
*[[Wheeljack (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Wheeljack]] (15)
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (16)
*[[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (17)
*[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (18)
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (19)
*[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (20)
*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (25)
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] (26)
*[[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (29)
*[[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] (30)
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] (31)
*[[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] (32)
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (33)
*[[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] (34)
}}
|c2=
*[[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] (1)
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] (5)
*[[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] (6)
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] (7)
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (22)
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (23)
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (24)
|c3=
*[[Maria Vasquez]] (2)
*[[Ricky Vasquez]] (3)
*[[Carmen Vasquez]] (4)
*[[Donny Finkleberg]] (11)
*[[Billy (G1)|Billy]] (14)
*[[Lyle Scoggins]] (21)
*[[Kurtz]] (27)
*[[Winowski]] (28)
*[[Circuit Breaker (G1)|Circuit Breaker]] (35)
}}

==Quotes==
"But can we depend on this feeble fleshling?" 
"Does iron rust red? With one of my '''cerebro-shells''' planted in his brain module, he'd eat '''nuclear waste''' if I asked him to. Fleshling, there's a grease spot on my foot. See if you can clean it... with your '''tongue'''!"
:—'''Shrapnel''' prompts '''Bombshell''' to be a jackass.

"But Ratchet, he's a human! Humans don't rust!" 
"But they sweat!...Bring the human back after you dehumidify him."
:—'''Skids''' and '''Ratchet'''

"I'm pleased you are still functional, Skids. We thought you were dead."
:—'''Optimus Prime''', showing very little concern.

"How can we believe him? As Robot-Master he went on television and '''lied''' about us, gave all the Autobots a bad name! Let me do a little '''corrective surgery''' on him, Optimus - I'll get the truth out of him '''piece by piece'''.
:—And '''Ratchet''' showing very little morality.

"Pull my trigger, fleshling! '''Pull my trigger!'''"
:—'''Megatron''' says terrible things to a mind-controlled Ricky Vasquez

==Notes==
===Artwork and technical errors===
[[File:Coneheads aerialbots over america.jpg|thumb|150px|"Dirge, do you like movies about gladiators?"]]
*Dirge's wings and cockpit are ''pink'' on pages 10 and 15.
*Ramjet is colored just red and black in 2 panels at the bottom of page 16.
*Blaster's head is blue on the last page.
*The Coneheads' conversation after initially driving off the Aerialbots is several flavors of screwed up, presumably due to misdirected speech balloons:
::'''Thrust:''' "We showed them who's boss of the skies, right, Thrust?"
::'''Dirge:''' "Right, Ramjet!"
::'''Ramjet:''' "..."
In the IDW ''Transformers Classics'' reprint, this is changed to have Dirge reply "Right, Thrust!" but ''only'' that's changed.
*For the most part, Silverbolt's jet mode actually makes an attempt to be [[Scale|''in scale'']] with the rest of the jets! It's even used in the plot as he carries a wounded Slingshot on his wing.
* Page 17: Slingshot's missing the damage he received from Ramjet's attack; he's also colored blue instead of white.

===Continuity errors===
*On page 12, Jetfire refers to [[Basketrek|a game]] they played on Cybertron. Yet, having been given life on Earth (immediately preceding issue [[Rock and Roll-Out!|#14]]), Jetfire has never been to Cybertron. It's possible he's making it up just to freak out Donny.
*Megatron seems to need the fleshling to pull his trigger to be able to fire, yet in previous issues Megatron would fire in gun mode without anyone pulling the trigger.
*The security guard doesn't notice that Ricky is carrying a large gun.

===Continuity notes===
*This issue takes place on [[July 4]], [[1986]].
*The [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] and [[Conehead|second year Decepticon jets]] first arrive on Earth in this issue. Megatron states that he modified the Insecticons' alternate forms to resemble Earth insects... including giving them the ability to shrink. Of note, this implies that those were their ''Cybertronian'' forms we saw back in issue #17... even though they pretty much looked the same as their Earth modes.
*For UK readers, this story was set up in "[[Target: 2006]]" as Megatron there orders the troops to Earth. Similarly, the Aerialbots have been in the works since "[[Second Generation]]".
*Prime is seen nursing an injury he received saving Skids' life in issue [[Command Performances!|#19]]. This injury would play a big part in the next couple of issues.
*The Insecticons, the Coneheads and the Aerialbots all get to show off their special powers - Thrust's engines force Skydive to land; Dirge broadcasts his fear-frequency; Fireflight uses his fire-fog missiles; Ramjet flies straight into Slingshot; Slingshot uses his VTOL capabilities; Air Raid uses his torque rifle; Shrapnel zaps Slingshot; Kickback kicks both a door and Air Raid.
*The narration pegs Superion's height as "eight stories" - roughly 100 feet or 30 and a half metres.
*The [[cliffhanger]] reveals the [[Cybertron Seven]] were captured off-panel during or soon after issue #19. We'll see how in the next issue.
*Superion here endangers human lives due to bad programming. This will impact on every subsequent Superion story at Marvel UK, where they'll be a badly functioning menace.

===Real-life references===
*The issue is mostly set in and around Hoover Dam, in the Black Canyon; a tour guide reels off facts and figures about the dam including its service area of Nevada, Arizona and California. The Vasquez family lives in Boulder City, Nevada. We also stop in at the Ark, in rural [[Oregon]], and get an epilogue set in southern [[New Jersey (Earth)|New Jersey]].
*Both a reporter and a bratty kid curiously identify Silverbolt's alternate form as an SST (supersonic transport), rather than the less generic, more commonly known Concorde.

===UK printing===
*The injury Prime is nursing in this issue is actually the source of a subtle continuity change between the US and UK comics. The cause of the injury is different depending on which version of the comic you're reading:
**In the US version, Prime was wounded fighting to save Skids during "[[Command Performances!]]", 2 issues previously. In the UK version, there was a 17-issue gap between this story and "Command Performances", so the hole in his side was repaired, and he was later re-injured in ''exactly the same spot''.
**The exact origin of Prime's new injury remained a mystery until issue [[Distant Thunder!|#100]]. All we knew at this point was that Prime was somehow damaged while he was displaced in limbo during "[[Target: 2006]]".
*In a similar vein, it is a little odd, in the UK print, to hear Optimus refer to the arrival of the [[Cybertron Seven]] over the [[space bridge]] as the most significant turn of events since the Transformers landed on Earth, when his Autobots have spent the last nine issues or so in the company of Ultra Magnus, an Autobot sent over the Space Bridge from Cybertron, and fighting Galvatron, a Decepticon from the future. Unless his troops just didn't ''tell'' Optimus about Magnus.

'''Issue #89:'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''[[Back-up strips#Spitfire and the Troubleshooters|Spitfire and the Troubleshooters]]'' - "Beginnings" and ''[[Robo-Capers]]''
*'''[[Transformers AtoZ|AtoZ]]:''' [[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] and [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]
*Issue #89 featured the debut of a new feature called ''[[Transformers AtoZ]]''. This was merely reprinting (sometimes slightly truncated) profiles from the ''[[The Transformers Universe]]'' limited series. It was nearly unreadable due to the background they were printed on.

'''Issue #90:'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''Spitfire and the Troubleshooters'' - "Beginnings" and ''Robo-Capers''

===Other trivia===
*In the issue's publication info on page 1, the cover date is printed as October [[1987]] rather than 1986. (The month is correct, as Marvel consistently listed issues four months ahead of their release date.)
*When this issue was reprinted in ''[[Classic Transformers Volume 2]]'', the image of Circuit Breaker was replaced with a silhouette and the speech bubble with her name was removed for copyright reasons.

===Bot Roster===
*Autobots: 16 active as the Aerialbots come online. 5 rogue Dinobots, 7 held captive by RAAT, 14 in repair bay. (42 total)
*Decepticons: 17 active as the Coneheads and Insecticons arrive on Earth; 7 offline. (23 total)

===Changes in the IDW ''Transformers Classics'' reprint===
*On page 4, panel 2 the Ben-Day dots on the roof of Ricky Vasquez's car have been removed, and replaced with a flat tone. Oddly, similar stippling effects elsewhere on the page have been allowed to stay intact.
*An attempt has been made to fix the bad dialogue on page 16, panel 5 (see the Artwork and Technical Details section) -- but only Dirge's dialogue has been corrected so the panel now reads:
::'''Thrust:''' "We showed them who's boss of the skies, right, Thrust?"
::'''Dirge:''' "Right, Thrust!"
::'''Ramjet:''' "..."

===Covers (3)===
*'''US cover:''' Aerialbots vs. Coneheads, by [[Herb Trimpe]].
*'''UK issue #89 cover:''' Insecticons control Ricky Vasquez, by [[Robin Smith]].
*'''UK issue #90 cover:''' reuse of art from US cover with new coloring by [[Robin Bouttell]].
<gallery>
File:MarvelUS-21.jpg|'''US issue #21''' - Wait, wrong way!
File:MarvelUK-089.jpg|'''UK issue #89''' - Actually, [[Slaves of the Insecticons]] is a different book altogether.
File:MarvelUK-090.jpg|'''UK issue #90''' - UK Silverbolt seems to be a robo-racist.
</gallery>

===Advertisements===
*None yet identified.

===Reprints===
*'''''[[Transformers: Showdown]]'' TPB:''' [[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]], [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]], [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]], [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] and half of the [[space bridge]], by [[Andrew Wildman]].
*'''''Transformers: Showdown'' HC:''' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s head by [[Alan Davis]], [[Mark Farmer]], & [[Chris Blythe]].
*'''[[Classic Transformers Volume 2|''Classic Transformers'' Volume 2]]:''' Panels from US issues [[Showdown!|#20]] and [[Gone but Not Forgotten!|#25]].
*'''[[The Transformers Classics, Vol. 2|''The Transformers Classics'', Vol. 2]]:''' [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] by [[Guido Guidi]].
*'''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection|''Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 6: Target: 2006'']]''': Megatron by Guido Guidi above an interior scene of the [[Wrecker]]s.
<gallery>
File:Titan-ShowdownSC.jpg|'''''Transformers: Showdown'' TPB''' (Titan Books, 2003)
File:Titan-ShowdownHC.jpg|'''''Transformers: Showdown'' HC''' (Titan Books, 2003)
File:Classic Transformers Vol2.jpg|'''''Classic Transformers'' Volume 2''' (IDW Publishing, 2008)
File:TFClassicsVol2.jpg|'''''The Transformers Classics'', Vol. 2''' (IDW Publishing, 2012)
File:DefinitiveG1Collection v6.jpg|'''''The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 6: Target: 2006''''' (Hachette Partworks, 2016)
</gallery>

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[[Category:Marvel UK issues]]

Talk:Doubleheader

2019-02-18T13:04:30Z

MissRatbat: Insignia in the corner

When was he a Decepticon? —[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 08:04, 18 February 2019 (EST)

Talk:Recipe for Disaster!

2019-02-17T13:35:23Z

MissRatbat: Error or haircut?

Is First One’s hair really an ‘error’? Even without getting into speculation about Femaxian hair-patterns, she could just shave her head. I’ve seen real-life humans with hair more ‘odd’ than this. —[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 08:35, 17 February 2019 (EST)

Funeral for a Friend!

2019-02-11T13:45:19Z

MissRatbat: Clarifying UK/USA.

{{comicstory|seriesissue=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|''The Transformers'' (US)]] #26
|prev=Gone but Not Forgotten!
|next=King of the Hill!
|title="Funeral for a Friend!"
|seriesissue2=[[The Transformers (Marvel comic)#Marvel UK|''The Transformers'' (UK)]] #109–110
|prev2=Gone but Not Forgotten!
|next2=King of the Hill!
|image=MarvelUS-26.jpg
|caption="I don't care for the term 'grease [[Optimus Primal (BW)|monkey]]'."
|publisher=[[Marvel Comics]]
|date=November [[1986]]
|coverdate=March [[1987]]
|writer=[[Bob Budiansky]]
|penciler=[[Don Perlin]]
|inker=[[Brett Breeding]]
|colorist=[[Nelson Yomtov|Nel Yomtov]]
|letterer=[[Janice Chiang]]
|editor=[[Don Daley]]
|continuity=[[Marvel Comics continuity]]
}}
'''While most the Autobots pay their last respects to Optimus Prime, Ratchet is left alone to face a new human threat.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ratchet]] has worked non-stop for the last ten days to repair the fallen [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]]. At last his work is finished, and before the assembled Autobots within the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], he flips the switch to send a power surge through Optimus's body. But to the grief of all, no spark of life returns to the Autobot leader, and Ratchet declares that Optimus Prime is beyond repair.

[[File:Powerboosterrod.jpg|thumb|left|upright=0.7]]
Omega Supreme arranges a variety of heavy armaments, remotely activated via a remote-controlled [[power booster rod]], to defend the Ark so that the [[Autobot]]s can carry out a full [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] [[Transformer funerary practices|funeral service]] for Prime. Ratchet chooses to stay behind rather than face another of his failures; First Aid leaves him with some words of comfort and encouragement before departing with the other Autobots.

Alone in the Ark, Ratchet pays a morose visit to the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'s life support bay, despairing that he lacks both the parts and the equipment to effect proper repairs on the many off-line Autobots stored there. Gazing on Prowl's inert form, Ratchet decides to stop moping and be more proactive about repairing his comrades. He drives to [[A-1|a nearby used auto parts junkyard]], and begins scavenging parts to fit his patients.

While he works, however, a nearby police sting unfolds, as the local police attempt to bring in the head of a stolen car ring who calls himself "the [[Mechanic (G1)|Mechanic]]". Hiding in ambulance mode, Ratchet is discovered by the Mechanic and his assistant [[Juan (thief)|Juan]], who promptly use him as an escape vehicle. Forced to aid the Mechanic lest he blow his cover, Ratchet is pursued by local police authorities, and in an effort to evade them, he uses some of his Autobot weaponry (namely, a [[cryogenic sprayer]] and a [[laser scalpel]]) on the pursing vehicles, hoping that the Mechanic - paralyzed by his crippling fear of the police - won't notice. The Mechanic does indeed see the power of these weapons, however, and removes them for his own use.

The two thieves return to their home base garage and began examining the strange ambulance and discussing what to do with their find. Ratchet finally decides he's had enough - but when he transforms and attempts to retrieve his surgical instruments, the Mechanic uses the cryogenic sprayer to freeze him solid.

Deep in the Cascades, Omega Supreme lays Optimus Prime's body in a funeral bier. After a heartfelt eulogy from Perceptor, the bier is launched into space, to return to the cosmos.

[[File:Ratchetmechanic.jpg|thumb]]
When Ratchet thaws out, he returns to the Ark, only to be followed by the Mechanic and Juan, who hope to follow Ratchet to the source of more Cybertronian weaponry. Before Ratchet realizes that he has led the [[human]]s right to the Ark, the Mechanic has stolen the power booster rod from the Ark's defense systems, in addition to Ratchet's weapons.

Using these devices, the Mechanic injures Ratchet and reactivates the Ark's automatic defenses so that the Autobots are prevented from offering assistance as they return from Optimus Prime's funeral. Crippled, Ratchet drives off to the repair bay, doing what he can to restore his fallen friends with the junkyard parts. The Mechanic arrives, and is on the verge of crushing Ratchet with a piece of machinery when a police car arrives! The terrified Mechanic flees... never realizing that the police car is actually the partially-restored Prowl.

The Mechanic escapes with the power booster rod and Ratchet's tools; Ratchet deactivates the defenses and ends the assault on his comrades. Outside, he and First Aid take stock of the damage - nothing too serious. His spirits lifted, Ratchet reflects that he's had no time to think about the dead - he's focused on helping the living.
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
{{collist|2|
*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (1)
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] (2)
*[[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] (3)
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (4)
*[[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (5)
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] (6)
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (7)
*[[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (8)
*[[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] (9)
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] (10)
*[[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] (11)
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (12)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] (13)
*[[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ratchet]] (14)
*[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] (15)
*[[Wheeljack (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Wheeljack]] (16)
*[[Seaspray (G1)|Seaspray]] (17)
*[[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] (18)
*[[Groove (G1)|Groove]] (19)
*[[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] (20)
*[[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] (21)
*[[Blades (G1)|Blades]] (22)
*[[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (23)
*[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (24)
*[[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (25)
*[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (26)
*[[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] (27)
*[[Prowl (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Prowl]] (28)
}}
|c3=
*[[Juan (thief)|Juan]] (8)
*[[Farley]] (9)
*[[Mechanic (G1)|Mechanic]] (10)
}}

==Quotes==
"He wasn't just another gun-toting conscript to me, First Aid. He was my friend. I'm staying." 
"I understand your grief, Ratchet. But remember -- we doctors must concern our selves with those we can still help -- the living. Where there's life, there's hope."
:—'''Ratchet''' and '''First Aid'''

"We are gathered to pay final tribute to Optimus Prime -- commander, leader... friend. His courage was the beacon that guided us through the dark wilderness of this alien world. His love and kindness inspired us when our prospects seemed most bleak. His wisdom washed over us in unending waves. If we each retained but a drop we would each be immeasurably the better for it. We thank you, Optimus Prime. Farewell. We send you to join with the universe -- to return to the cosmic dust from which all life began... and from which it will begin again."
:—'''Perceptor''' delivers a euology for Optimus Prime

"That human was right. I suppose courage '''wasn't''' included in my programming -- why would a doctor need it? And I'm not much of a doctor either. I've '''lost''' more lives than I've '''saved!''' I can't even save '''myself!''' Guess I'll never have a chance to repair everyone here. Sorry, Prowl. But at least you're still alive. And.... where there's life, there's hope."
:—'''Ratchet''', crippled and hunted

"I'm glad you're in much better spirits than a few hours ago, Ratchet. Have you finally put the loss of Optimus Prime behind you?" 
"No, not yet. But I guess I've been too busy to think about the dead... I've been too concerned with helping the living."
:—'''First Aid''' and '''Ratchet'''

==Notes==
===Artwork and technical errors===
*Page 4, panel 3: block coloring gives us a white Skids, a blue Hoist, and a white Fireflight.
*Ratchet's amublance mode is consistently colored all-white - even the light bars!
*Omega Supreme isn't nearly as huge as he was in #19; now he's maybe twice the height of an average Transformer. (and how did he get to the funeral, anyway?)
*Page 10, panel 2: Omega's arm is colored orange instead of gray.
*Page 21, panel 6: Powerglide is colored like Seaspray.

===Continuity errors===
*Assuming the [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] were granted life via the [[Matrix of Leadership|Creation Matrix]] (since the Autobots currently have no means of getting reinforcements from Cybertron), First Aid's words to Ratchet on pages 3 and 4 seem to be words of long experience that he shouldn't really have yet.
**Speaking of whom, why wasn't First Aid aiding Ratchet in repairing Prime in the first place?
*It's not real clear how Omega Supreme - who has a gun for one arm and a claw for the other - could construct ''anything at all'', let alone an elaborate defence system.
*The choice of Perceptor to deliver the eulogy is a... curious one. He and his group didn't join the Ark's Autobots until after the events of issue #23, and Optimus was killed almost immediately afterwards, in issue #24! We never saw the two characters together; in fact, this is the first time in the American stories we've seen Perceptor's group with the Ark Autobots.
*The Mechanic removes Ratchet's weapons from his interior with an ordinary screwdriver. Did the Ark adapt the [[Transformer]]s ''that'' much to [[Earth]]?
**Similarly, the 'on' and 'off' positions for the Ark's defence systems are marked in English. That certainly makes it easier for the Mechanic to figure out how they work. Maybe Omega Supreme marked them that way because he was created on Earth?

===Continuity notes===
*In [[Power Struggle|''G.I. Joe and the Transformers'' #2]], Blaster ordered all Autobots to return to the Ark due to Prime's death - meaning the roll call at the start of the issue should be a complete tally of active Autobots:
**26 Autobots are shown (including Ratchet)
**[[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Bumblebee]] is missing, since he got blown up by G.I. Joe in issue #1 of the crossover
**The [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobot]]s have been AWOL since #19
**[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] and [[Mirage (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Mirage]] are both missing, and were likewise missing from a similar roll call in issue #19; presumably they were both taken out of action some time after their last appearances in issue #16 and #14, respectively.
**Prowl is shown up and about after some repairs...but we don't see him again until #36. His absence from next issue's leadership conference would seem to indicate his repairs were not complete.
*Further overlap with the G.I. Joe crossover: [[Ashes, Ashes...|issue #3]] repeats the end of Perceptor's eulogy; it also adds some additional dialog from Blaster and Omega Supreme.
*Ratchet notes that he's managed to keep ''most'' of the Autobots alive in the Ark's life support bays.
*As he scavenges in the junkyard, Ratchet finds parts for [[Ironhide (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ironhide]] and [[Gears (G1)|Gears]], as well as Prowl.
*Portland businesses visible in the backgrounds include A-1 Used Auto Parts (Domestic & Foreign), Jeanies, a liquor store, Paint World, a sub store, Bar O, Gursky's, and of course, Forbe's Garage.

===Real-life references===
*The Ark sits in rural [[Oregon]]; the funeral happens elsewhere within the [[Cascades]]. The junkyard is off Route 26 in the Southeast area of [[Portland]], where the Portland Police Department springs their trap. (Our Google Maps pedant-o-vision tells us that there actually are several junkyards a mile or so off of Route 26 in the city's Southeast neighborhood!)

===UK printing===
[[File:FuneralForAFriendComparison.jpg|thumb|Once again, poor Skids gets shafted.]]
'''Issue #109'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''[[Inhumanoids|The Inhumanoids]]'' - "I Left My Monsters in San Francisco" and ''[[Robo-Capers]]''
*When US page 2 was printed, Skids' appearance and caption were blacked out. This was because according to the UK comic's continuity, he'd been displaced to Limbo by a time-traveling [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] eight issues earlier.
*The order of US pages 10 and 11 was reversed when they were printed in the UK comic to provide the issue with a more poignant cliffhanger—the beginning of the funeral of Optimus Prime.
*In ''[[Letters page (Marvel UK)|Grim Grams]]'', one reader asks for people to send ''him'' nominations for the 1986 Transformers Awards and another reader requests Comic Exchange to be added alongside Stock Exchange.

'''Issue #110'''
*'''Back-up strips:''' ''The Inhumanoids'' - "I Left My Monsters in San Francisco" and ''[[Robo-Capers]]''
*According to [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] (in the letters page), Galvatron has a weakness for [[chocolate covered oil drum]]s.
*In the US continuity, Prowl has been damaged since "[[Prime Time!]]". In the UK continuity he recovered and was seen last attending (fake) Optimus' funeral in "[[Resurrection!]]". What caused the injuries seen in this episode for the UK continuity is never mentioned.
{{-}}

===Other trivia===
*Hoist drives Optimus Prime to his funeral on a special trailer.

===Bot Roster===
*Autobots: 27 active (again discounting Optimus Prime as he's officially dead); 5 rogue Dinobots, 14 in repair bay. (46 total)
*Decepticons: 31 active; 9 offline. (40 total)

===Covers (3)===
*'''US cover:''' the Mechanic in front of dead Autobots, by [[Herb Trimpe]].
*'''UK issue #109 cover:''' reuse of art from US cover, slightly recolored with new captions.
*'''UK issue #110 cover:''' Autobots attacked by the Ark, by [[Jeff Anderson]].
<gallery>
File:MarvelUS-26.jpg|'''US issue #26''' - How manly!
File:MarvelUK-109.jpg|'''UK issue #109''' - The UK really liked their lime green. The editor was [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]].
File:MarvelUK-110.jpg|'''UK issue #110''' - Now this is more like it! If only we could see what was going on.
</gallery>

===Advertisements===
====US====
*None yet identified.

====UK: #109====
*Action Force (toy range)
*The incredible [[Special Teams|New Teams]]

===Reprints===
*'''''[[Transformers: Breakdown]]'' TPB:''' ([[May 26]], [[2004]]) ISBN 1-84023-791-0; Predaking, [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]], [[Ratchet (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Ratchet]] and half of [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]].
*'''''Transformers: Breakdown'' hardback:''' ([[May 26]], [[2004]]) ISBN 1-84023-810-0; Trypticon vs Grimlock.
*'''[[Classic Transformers Volume 2|''Classic Transformers'' Volume 2]]:''' ([[July 10]], [[2008]]) ISBN 1600101852 / ISBN 978-1600101854 panels from US issues [[Showdown!|#20]] and #25.
*'''[[The Transformers Classics, Vol. 3|''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol. 3]]:''' ([[April 18]], [[2012]]) ISBN 1613771630 / ISBN 978-1613771631 [[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Bumblebee]]
*'''''[[Transformers: The Definitive G1 Collection]]: Volume 7: The Harder They Die''''' ([[October 18]], [[2017]]) [[Tantrum (G1)|Tantrum]] and a scene of the [[Wrecker]]s.
<gallery>
File:Titan-BreakdownSC.jpg|'''''Transformers: Breakdown'' TPB'''; cover art by [[Andrew Wildman]]
File:Titan-BreakdownHC.jpg|'''''Transformers: Breakdown'' HC'''; cover art by [[Kev Walker]], [[Simon Coleby]] and [[Chris Blythe]].
File:Classic Transformers Vol2.jpg|'''''Classic Transformers'' Volume 2'''; cover art by artists from issues #20 and #25
File:TFClassicsVol3.jpg|'''''The Transformers Classics,'' Vol. 3'''; cover art by [[Guido Guidi]]
File:DefinitiveG1Collection v7.jpg|'''''The Definitive G1 Collection: Volume 7'''''; cover art by [[Don Figueroa]] and [[Geoff Senior]]
</gallery>

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Triple Changer

2018-12-24T08:21:50Z

MissRatbat: Sky Lynx, per Earth Wars.

[[File:5 blitzwing new world order.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Blitzwing demonstrates his triple-changing abilities, transforming from an ''incredibly'' unconvincing jet into a tank that's only ''slightly'' unconvincing.]]
In their quest for ever-greater machines of war, the [[Decepticon]]s developed warriors with two distinct [[alternate mode]]s. These '''Triple Changers''' can travel by land and air with equal ease and in the heat of battle they can rapidly change form to confuse and outflank the enemy. To counter this threat, the [[Autobot]]s also developed their own group of Triple Changers.

The Triple Changers are:

<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Octane]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Springer (G1)|Springer]]}}
</ul>

{{note|In Transformers fiction, the term "Triple Changer" refers almost exclusively to these two subgroups which are the only such characters ever shown as cohesive teams. However, other official sources such as toy packaging, catalogs, [[Hasbro]] spokespersons and commercials have applied the term "Triple Changer" rather haphazardly to other characters from [[Continuity family|various continuities]]. Further muddying the waters, a few characters with three distinct modes have never been labeled as Triple Changers in toys or fiction even in cases where it would really make sense to do so.}}

==Fiction==
===Generation 1===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
[[File:TripleTakeover Blitzwing Astrotrain stadium.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4]]
The Triple Changers [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] joined [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s forces sometime after their leader woke up from a 4-million year sleep. Blitzwing took part in the sacking of [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]] {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} while Astrotrain helped take over [[Earth]] after the Autobots were exiled. {{storylink|Megatron's Master Plan, Part 2}} The pair were soon integrated into Megatron's forces with Astrotrain regularly providing transport {{storylink|Blaster Blues}} {{storylink|The Secret of Omega Supreme (episode)|The Secret of Omega Supreme}} {{storylink|The Gambler}} {{storylink|Sea Change}} and Blitzwing providing extra muscle. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon (episode)|The Golden Lagoon}} {{storylink|Quest for Survival}} Astrotrain had the opportunity to command a mission after shooting down [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] over [[Titan (moon)|Titan]] and took advantage of [[Titan (species)|the native species]]' [[Religion|superstitions]] by posing as one of their [[Sky God]]s. {{storylink|The God Gambit}}

It wasn't long before the two Triple Changers fell in with [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] and plotted to overthrow Megatron. What their co-conspirator didn't realize was that Astrotrain and Blitzwing intended to rule alone and once both he and their leader were out of the way the Triple Changers attempted to take over Earth in their own fashion. Astrotrain created a number of trains he controlled while Blitzwing took over a football stadium. Their rule lasted roughly as long as it took for Megatron and Starscream to thaw themselves out and then the pair found they faced [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}

The two Triple Changers were dispatched to negotiate with [[Chumley|Lord Chumley]] for his help in destroying the Autobots, but the pair instead fell foul of the traps Chumley had intended for [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]. Chumley released them when it became clear he'd lost against Optimus, but instead of attacking the Autobots as he assumed they would the two Decepticons went after him. {{storylink|Prime Target (episode)|Prime Target}} Astrotrain largely returned to transportation duties following this {{storylink|The Search for Alpha Trion}} {{storylink|Hoist Goes Hollywood (episode)|Hoist Goes Hollywood}} {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}} even transporting Starscream into exile. {{storylink|Starscream's Brigade}}

By [[2005]], the Autobot Triple Changer [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] had arrived on Earth and was at [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] when the Decepticons, including Astrotrain and Blitzwing attacked it. Following the climactic battle between Megatron and Prime, Astrotrain served as getaway ship taking the surviving Decepticons back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. After a second attack on Autobot City, Springer fled Earth with the other Autobots and after a stopover on [[Junkion (planet)|Junk]] took part in the effort to defeat [[Unicron]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} Following Unicron's defeat the Decepticons including Astrotrain, Blitzwing and [[Octane]] ended up seeking refuge on [[Chaar]] where they survived in an [[energon]]-starved state. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 1}} The Quintessons took advantage of this and manipulated both sides to attempt to destroy them all. Blitzwing, in the process of helping halt the Quintesson plan effectively turned traitor in [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]'s eyes and was banished from the Decepticon ranks. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}

[[File:SandstormOctane BFF.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] also arrived on Earth and helped take part in investigations when Octane took control of [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], using the huge Transformer's might to secure him a deal with [[Socialist Democratic Federated Republic of Carbombya|Carbombya]]. At the end of the affair Octane was also banished from the Decepticon ranks. {{storylink|Thief in the Night}} The Autobots encountered another Triple Changer, [[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]] on the planet [[Paradron]]. Sandstorm was descended from early Cybertronian migrants who had come to Paradron fleeing the war. After Paradron's destruction, Sandstorm joined the Autobot forces on Earth. {{storylink|Fight or Flee (episode)|Fight or Flee}} It was while on Earth that he befriended Octane though he was unable to prevent the Decepticons tracking the renegade down. Octane eventually fell in with Starscream, who had been reduced to an apparition and was trying to resurrect Unicron. This didn't go well. {{storylink|Starscream's Ghost}} Broadside continued to work with the Autobots as transport and occasionally muscle {{storylink|Carnage in C-Minor}} {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}} and for the Decepticons so did both Astrotrain {{storylink|The Big Broadcast of 2006 (episode)|The Big Broadcast of 2006}} {{storylink|The Burden Hardest to Bear}} and apparently Octane. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}
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====Marvel Comics continuity====
=====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics=====
{{noteukonly}}
''[[Steamhammer (G1)|Steamhammer]] fought Autobots in a battle near the town of [[Yuss]] using both his jet and tank modes. He was killed.'' {{storylink|The Magnificent Six!}}

[[File:Ratbatcratercritters.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.4|Didja ever wonder what guys like Astrotrain do if they have an itch in the middle of their back? That's gotta ''suck'' for 'em. There is ''no way'' he can reach back there.]]
''The Decepticon Triple Changers served alongside the [[Conehead]]s and [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] where Octane and Blitzwing developed a reputation as two of the Decepticons' [[Ten Deadliest Killers|deadliest killers]]: key targets in [[Operation: Volcano]].'' {{storylink|Target: 2006}} ''The deadly killer Octane would later oversee a [[Decepticon fuel store|fuel store]] and run away screaming from Autobots.'' {{storylink|Resurrection!}}

The Decepticon Triple Changers were called into service by [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] when a freighter that he had sent to [[Earth]] failed to make contact upon its arrival. The three Triple Changers traveled to Earth via [[space bridge]] and located the crashed freighter at the bottom of an impact crater. They quickly discovered that the pilot had become infected with [[scraplet]]s...which immediately infected ''them'' as well. Despite the rapidly spreading disease, they were happy to attack two Autobots who arrived to investigate the crater. One of the Autobots fled while the other proved to be a fair match for the trio. {{storylink|Crater Critters}}

Eventually, they overpowered and captured [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], taking him prisoner. Astrotrain contacted Ratbat on Cybertron, requesting a cure. Instead, Ratbat dispatched a group of captured Autobots with orders to destroy all the infected Transformers on Earth with canisters of acid... including his own troops! Weakened by the disease, the Triple Changers could do little but sit around in the crater and wait for the end to come, whether by acid melting or scraplet consumption.

Luckily for the Triple Changers, the other Autobot, [[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Goldbug]], had managed to find a cure for the disease. Though Blaster demanded that Goldbug kill him along with the Decepticons rather than curing them, Goldbug's hand was forced the other way when the scraplets merged into a titanic combined form. He sprayed [[water|the cure]] on all the crater's occupants, including the Decepticons. Quickly recovering, the Triple Changers rallied to the attack, bringing down the combined scraplet monster with their weapons. Subsequently, they grabbed the cargo of the crashed freighter and made good their escape. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

The Triple Changers subsequently joined the main force of Decepticons on Earth, initially under [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s command, then later Ratbat's. They participated in the great battle against the Autobots on the Moon, {{storylink|Totaled!}} played host to human guests at [[Club Con]], {{storylink|Club Con!}} and battled [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s forces in the Arctic, a battle in which they fared particularly well. {{storylink|Cold War!}} They didn't fare so well against the [[Underbase]]-powered [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]], however, who slaughtered all three of them in a single blast. {{storylink|Dark Star}}

In a dystopian future, they served under [[Galvatron II|Galvatron]] and killed [[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]]. {{storylink|Rhythms of Darkness!}}

[[File:Triplechangerstarget2006.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
''The Autobot Triple Changers first came to prominence in the days leading up to [[Operation: Volcano]]; they were called into service by [[Emirate]] [[Xaaron]] to fill in for Ultra Magnus, should the latter not return from Earth in time to participate in the mission. They convinced the [[Wrecker]]s' leader, [[Impactor (G1)|Impactor]], that they would be up to the challenge by beating the stuffing out of him before rocketing back to the Autobot base, [[Debris]]. When Impactor was killed in the aborted mission, Triple Changer Springer took over as Wrecker leader, with the other two becoming part of the force as well.'' {{storylink|Target: 2006}}

''The Triple Changers participated in several of the Wreckers' missions on Cybertron'' {{storylink|City of Fear!}} ''and Earth.'' {{storylink|Wrecking Havoc}} ''After the latter mission turned into a near-disaster, Sandstorm and Broadside were sent to Earth along with Inferno as an advance guard.'' {{storylink|Firebug!}} {{storylink|Cold Comfort and Joy!}}

''They were still with the Wreckers during the catastrophic battle against [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] and [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]], which saw Sandstorm destroyed. Broadside and Springer survived ''{{storylink|Time Wars}} ''eventually going on to form the [[Survivors]] group.'' {{storylink|Survivors!}}
{{note|The Survivors' storyline then suffered a minor continuity switch ending up in the Earthforce continuity as seen below.}}
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======Earthforce======
{{earthforcefiction}}
[[File:Triple changers shockwave secrets.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb]]
During the [[Decepticon Civil War]] on Earth, the Decepticon Triple Changers would serve under Shockwave. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}} Their great highlights were helping beat the snot out of [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] {{storylink|Secrets (G1)|Secrets}} and joining the massed attack on Autobot [[Earthbase]]. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}} Their lowlight was Octane getting stuck on a military firing range while full of fuel, and Astrotrain and Blitzwing leaving him behind out of annoyance. {{storylink|Manoeuvres!}}

Meanwhile, Springer and Broadside had to deal with the Decepticon [[Carnivac (G1)|Carnivac]] leaving the Survivors to avenge his friend [[Catilla (G1)|Catilla]]'s death at the hands of the new [[Mayhem Attack Squad]], {{storylink|Wolf in the Fold!}} hooking up with [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]]'s [[Earthforce]] to assist him in defeating the Decepticon unit. {{storylink|Where Wolf?}} They would go on to defend an [[oil tanker]] from Starscream in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}}
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======Marvel UK future timelines======
[[File:Rodimus technobots wreckers peace.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
In one possible future, Broadside, Springer and Sandstorm would be three of the last Autobots when the war ended in [[2510]]. [[Hot Rod (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Rodimus Prime]] made Springer his successor, only for fighting to break out over it; Sandstorm fired the second shot, killing [[Triton]]. {{storylink|Peace}}
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=====Marvel ''Generation 2'' comic=====
Broadside was part of a team of "[[Firestormer]]s" that raided various Decepticon outposts across the galaxy. {{storylink|War Without End!}} Springer, meanwhile, had apparently joined [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s main force of Autobots and participated in a counter-Decepticon raid on [[Ethos]] {{storylink|Escalation!}} as well as the final battle against the [[Swarm (G2)|Swarm]] on Earth. {{storylink|A Rage in Heaven!}}

Octane was also present in the conflict, but [[Death|not for long]]. {{storylink|Total War!}}
=====''Regeneration One''=====
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Megatron reanimated and lobotomized all three Decepticon Triple Changers after recovering their remains from the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], and utilized them as part of his [[zombie]] army. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 3}} The Autobot Triple Changers, as part of the Wreckers, travelled to Earth to combat this threat, though Megatron executed Springer in cold blood to provoke Optimus Prime. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}} With Megatron dead and [[Aunty|Auntie]] deactivated, the inert zombies were dumped into a pit and vaporised from orbit. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part One}}

Sandstorm and the injured Broadside returned to Cybertron aboard the ''[[Valiant (G1)|Valiant]]'' {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part Five}} where Sandstorm continued to serve with the Wreckers; keeping the peace at [[Eugenesis Plaza]] {{storylink|Destiny, Part One}} and [[Auto-artery RG1]] {{storylink|Destiny, Part Two}} and participating in a failed attack at [[Fort Scyk]] to root out [[Soundwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Soundwave]]'s Neo-Decepticons. {{storylink|Destiny, Part Three}} With the arrival of [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]'s ''[[Warworld]]'' above the planet, he formed part of a raid on the Decepticon ship but was caught unawares by the master of [[Metallikato]] and found himself impaled by a sword. {{storylink|Destiny, Part Five}}

Both Broadside and Sandstorm were well enough recovered to join Rodimus Prime's assault on the [[Hub (G2)|Hub Network]], with the Wreckers operating separately from the main Autobot forces and using the Hub's interplanetary "[[slam rail]]" tube system to avoid detection while causing massive explosions to detach planets from its superstructure. {{storylink|The War to End All Wars, Part 4}}
====Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity====
[[File:BlitzwingDissectionDreamwave.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|This detailed scientific cutaway view reveals that underneath all that armor Blitzwing is... made of [[:Category:Transformer anatomy|mechanical stuff]].]]
Triple Changers Blitzwing, Octane, Astrotrain and [[Fumes]] were involved in Decepticon battle operations around the time that Optimus Prime rose to command the Autobots. They participated in a major attack on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} and came close to victory {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} before [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] managed to destroy the entire [[Polities of Cybertron|city-state]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}

{{note|Blitzwing is shown to transform into all three modes during the attack on Iacon though this would seem to be retconned away by subsequent issues.}}

Blitzwing was a dangerous experiment of Shockwave's captured and kept in containment by the Autobots. He possessed unique qualities that led [[the Fallen]] to seek him out for the [[Unbinding]]. During this time, Springer led the splinter faction the Wreckers. {{storylink|Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|War Within: The Dark Ages}}

Later, Blitzwing and Astrotrain spontaneously began to grow new parts perhaps heralding their evolution into Triple Changers. (Yes, we know this makes no sense.) {{storylink|Recipe for Hate}}

Obsessed with improving the Cybertronian race, Shockwave created the [[Duocon]]s and though they were unstable it convinced him to go one stage further and modify several other Transformers into Triple Changers starting with Springer. Triple Changers can change between modes three times as fast as a normal Transformer. {{storylink|Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye}}

Sandstorm, Broadside, Octane and Blitzwing formed Shockwave's Triple Changer Strike Team and travelled to Earth to apprehend the rogue crews of the ''Ark'' and ''Nemesis''. {{storylink|New World Order}} On their return to Cybertron it was revealed the Autobots had doubts about their alliance with the former Decepticons and released Prime's crew to the Autobot resistance though Sandstorm was killed by [[Runabout (G1)|Runabout]]. Meanwhile, Octane chanced across the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] and provoked [[Slag (G1)|Slag]] into decapitating him. {{storylink|Cold War (issue)|Cold War}} When [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] returned to wrest control of the Decepticons from Shockwave, Blitzwing remained steadfastly loyal to the one-eyed commander and so was torn apart by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]] for his trouble. {{storylink|Lost and Found (issue)|Lost and Found}}
====IDW Generation 1 continuity====
[[File:Overcharge shadowplay.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67]]
Long before the war started Blitzwing and [[Overcharge (G1)|Overcharge]] were members of the [[Triorian Guard]], the [[Senate]]'s unit of multi-terrain Triple Changers charged with guarding the body of [[Nominus Prime]] as it lay in the [[Primal Basilica]]. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} Around the same time, [[Trepan]]'s [[Relinquishment Clinic]] was running a special offer on Triple Changers that proved very popular. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 2: Patternism|Patternism}}

Astrotrain and Blitzwing joined the Decepticons early in the war {{storylink|The Transformers: Autocracy|Autocracy}} and [[Octane|Tankor]] transported energy for the Decepticon army on several occasions. {{storylink|Faces of Darkness}} {{storylink|The Iron Age}}

The orphaned [[Caminus|Camien]] [[Stardrive]] was a Triple Changer able to turn into both a car and jet. After meeting more Cybertronians, she was surprised and confused to learn not all of them possessed this ability. {{storylink|Shining Armor issue 3|Shining Armor #3}}

Astrotrain and Blitzwing were part of Starscream's [[Infiltration protocol|infiltration unit]] on Earth. {{storylink|The Transformers: Infiltration|Infiltration}} They survived attacks by the [[Reaper]]s and Autobots before they were driven from the planet. {{storylink|The Transformers: Devastation|Devastation}} When the Autobots returned with Omega Supreme the Decepticons retreated into space ferried by Astrotrain. {{storylink|The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron}} Tankor was left behind until [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] returned to Earth and reunited his army. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 5: Enemy Mine|Enemy Mine}}

[[File:Wreckersstormbringer.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
The Autobot Triple Changers were part of the [[Wrecker]]s until the team fractured leaving only Springer {{storylink|Bullets}} who was then put in a coma by [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]]. {{storylink|Zero Point}} Broadside and Sandstorm ended up with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s forces on Earth after the [[Surge (event)|Surge]]. {{storylink|The Transformers (IDW)|The Transformers}} After the war formally ended, Broadside aided [[Autobot High Command]] in rebuilding society on Cybertron. Astrotrain and Blitzwing aided [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]] in preparing for Megatron's return while Tankor fell in with [[NAIL|the neutrals]] and left the Decepticons. {{storylink|The Verge}}

The two remaining Decepticons would then fall under the command of [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] {{storylink|...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|...And the Damage Done}} and returned to Earth as part of his plan to locate [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]]. {{storylink|Earthfall Chapter 3: The Mind Bomb|The Mind Bomb}} Broadside and Sandstorm served as Megatron's guards during his trial on [[Moonbase Two|Luna 2]]; {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}} Broadside then went on to serve under Megatron as part of the crew of the ''[[Lost Light]]''. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}} Meanwhile, Tankor joined a motley crew of former Autobots and Decepticons on Cybertron who would become allied with the [[Caminus|Camiens]] [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] and [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]]. {{storylink|Windblade issue 3|Windblade #3}}

The [[Hydrobot (G1)|Hydrobots]] counted at least two Triple Changers among their number: [[Aquabat]] and "the other one". {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|Towards Peace}}

===Live-action film series===
====[[Vector Sigma]] [[datatrax]]====
According to hypotheses the ability to have two or even more alternate modes may be connected to a Transformer's [[CNA|genetics]].<ref>Hasbro's online [http://web.archive.org/web/20100330183135/http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/TRANSFORMERS-Glossary.cfm Transformers glossary].</ref>
====''Revenge of the Fallen''====
In addition to his Cybertronian jet mode from [[Transformers (film)|the previous movie]], [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] now sports the altmode of a flying Cybertronian tank thanks to an infusion of new parts from [[Scrapmetal (ROTF)|ze little one]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation|Revenge of the Fallen comic adaptation}} Additionally, [[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] is shown contorting into a gun-emplacement artillery mode during [[Operation: Firestorm]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
====''Dark of the Moon''====
[[Laserbeak (DOTM)|Laserbeak]] takes on many different disguises including a printer, TV and human-sized pink [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}
====''Age of Extinction''====
[[Drift (AOE)|Drift]] is shown to be able to transform into both a helicopter and sports car at will without having to [[scanning|scan]] a new form. {{storylink|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction}}
====''Bumblebee''====
[[Shatter]] and [[Dropkick (Movie)|Dropkick]] are both Triple Changers that each possess a muscle car mode and an airborne military vehicle mode. [[Blitzwing (BB)|Blitzwing]] is also a Triple Changer, though his vehicle modes differ from his compatriots. {{storylink|Bumblebee (film)|Bumblebee}}

===''Animated''===
[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] was experimented on by [[Blackarachnia (Animated)|Blackarachnia]] and rebuilt as a Triple Changer, but this had the result of fracturing his mind into three distinct personalities: "Icy" Blitzwing, a cold, cunning and stone-faced tactician; "Hothead" Blitzwing, a destructively uncontained vent of rage; and "Random" Blitzwing, a comically-insane and rambling maniac. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|The AllSpark Almanac}} However, when it came to an [[Earth]]-based alternate mode two of his personalities, Icy and Hothead were unable to choose between a jet for the former and a tank for the latter until his Random side suggested scanning ''both'' of them. Unfortunately, his personalities changed primarily in sync with his vehicle modes, especially if he converted from Icy or Random to Hothead which [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] later noticed allowing the Autobots to exploit this weakness by causing him to crash when he converted from jet mode to tank mode mid-flight. {{storylink|Lost and Found (episode)|Lost and Found}} {{storylink|Megatron Rising - Part 2}}

It is unknown if [[Shockwave (Animated)|Longarm Prime/Shockwave]] counts as a Triple Changer since his "Longarm" form had a crane-alternate mode while his default "Shockwave" form had a tank-alternate mode. This may have been due to his unique [[size changing]] abilities he employed during his extended infiltration of the Autobot ranks. {{storylink|Autoboot Camp}} {{storylink|TransWarped}}

===''Rescue Bots'' cartoon===
Transformers can readily scan additional modes bringing up their total to three or more. {{storylink|Changes}} {{storylink|Land Before Prime (episode)|Land Before Prime}} [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]], [[Heatwave (RB)|Heatwave]], [[Boulder]], [[Chase (RB)|Chase]], and [[Blades (RB)|Blades]] are all eventually referred to as Triple Changers, having each taken on third Dinobot forms. {{storylink|Quarry's Quarry}} Blades believes the use of Triple-Changing is unfair when used in a game of [[Rescue Ball]]. {{storylink|Rise of the Heroes}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[File:Blitzwingg1toy.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|In a line cut from ''The Transformers: The Movie'', Blitzwing says that as a Triple Changer he's worth any two of his comrades. But it turns out that he retailed for a bit less than the Seekers.]]
*'''Decepticon Triple Changers''' (1985)
<ul class="iconlist">
{{Bp-d1|[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]}}
{{Bp-d1|[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]}}

*'''Autobot Triple Changers''' (1986)
{{Bp-a1|[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]}}
{{Bp-a1|[[Springer (G1)|Springer]]}}

*'''Decepticon Triple Changers''' (1986)
{{Bp-d1|[[Octane]]}}
</ul>

:The original Triple Changers were released in the second year of Generation 1, and were sufficiently popular to inspire four more in [[1986]]. Springer, Sandstorm, Astrotrain, and Octane were re-released in [[1991]] as part of the [[Europe]]an ''[[Classics (Europe)|Classics]]'' line.

===Classics===
[[File:ClassicsAstrotrain.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]
*Astrotrain (2006)

===Universe (2008)===
*[[Octane|Tankor]]
:Octane with a new name.

===Generations===
*[[Blitzwing (G1)#Generations|Blitzwing]]
*[[Sandstorm (G1)#Generations|Sandstorm]]
*[[Springer (G1)#Voyager|Autobot Springer]]

{{note|This list includes only toys that actually have three modes. Several of the Triple Changer characters have had later releases in other toy molds, most notably Sandstorm and Springer, but these forms lacked the third mode required to qualify as Triple Changers.}}

===Subsequent toys labeled as "Triple Changers"===
[[File:G1 Scorponok toy.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]
;Generation 1
*[[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] (called a "Headmaster Triple Changer base" in a commercial and in "[[Doomsday for Nebulos]].")

;''Generation 2''
*[[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] (1994)
:The bomber/tank/robot describes himself as "triple-changing Dreadwing" in a television [[commercial]]. Another commercial has the announcer saying "Dreadwing is a Triple Changer."

;''Beast Wars''
[[File:BW-toy Depthcharge.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|[[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]]: a triple-changing [[Transmetal]] from the ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'']]
*[[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]] (1998)
*[[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]] (1998)
:Although the packaging says "3 mode conversion", the commercial announcer says that each of these characters "triple changes".

;''Armada''
[[File:Armada Laserbeak toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|The only Triple Changer from ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'': [[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]]]]
*[[Laserbeak (Armada)|Laserbeak]] (2002)

;''Energon''
*[[Scorponok (Energon)|Scorponok]] (2004)
*[[Shockblast]] (2004)
*[[Six Shot]] (2005)

;''Cybertron''
*[[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Megatron]] (2005)
*[[Anti-Blaze]] (2006)
*[[Checkpoint (Cybertron)|Checkpoint]] (2006)
*[[Scythe (Cybertron)|Scythe]] (2006)
*[[Scourge (Cybertron)|Cryo Scourge]] (2006)
*[[Megatron (Armada)/toys|Galvatron]] (2006)

;''Animated''
*[[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] (2008)

;''Revenge of the Fallen''
[[File:Soundwaverotfpreviewtoy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Triple-changing [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], superior!]]
*[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Mixmaster]] (2009)
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] (2009)
*[[Megatron (Movie)/toys|Megatron]]<ref>Megatron was identified as a Triple Changer in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe]]'' and was shown with two alternate modes in [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation|''Revenge of the Fallen'' comic adaption]]. He did not display this ability in [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|the film]], nor [[Megatron (Movie)/toys|his toys]].</ref> (2009)

;''Dark of the Moon''
[[File:DOTM-toy Backfire SpikeWitwicky.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Triple-changing [[Backfire (TF 2010)|Backfire]], who's being ridden by [[Spike Witwicky (DOTM)|some guy]].]]
*[[Thunderhead]] (2011)
*[[Sandstorm (TF 2010)|Sandstorm]] (2011)
*[[Icepick (PCC)|Icepick]] (2011)
*[[Backfire (TF 2010)|Backfire]] (2011)
*[[Whirl (ROTF)|Whirl]] (2011)
*[[Tailpipe (DOTM)|Tailpipe]] & [[Pinpointer (DOTM)|Pinpointer]] (2011)
*[[Drag Strip (DOTM)|Drag Strip]] (2011)
*[[Half-Track (DOTM)|Half-Track]] (2011)
*[[Reverb (DOTM)|Reverb]] (2011)
*[[Crosshairs (Movie)|Crosshairs]] (2011)
:''All'' the [[Human Alliance]] Basic-class robot figures are Triple Changers.
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Leader Class toys 4|Striker Optimus]] (2011)

;Construct-Bots
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/toys#Construct-Bots|Bumblebee]]
*[[Blitzwing_(G1)/toys#Construct-Bots|Blitzwing]]

;Unreleased
*"[[Dropshot (Armada)|Dropshot]]"
*"[[Fumes]]"
*ATB Megatron (called a Triple Changer by a Hasbro pitch man.)
*Marauder Megatron

===Retroactively labeled as Triple Changers===
[[File:G1toy Snapdragon.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
*[[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s ''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' profile book series identifies [[Apeface]] and [[Snapdragon (G1)|''G1'' Snapdragon]] as Triple Changers.
*Dreamwave's ''[[More than Meets the Eye: Transformers: Armada|More Than Meets The Eye: Armada]]'' book labels [[Over-Run (Armada)|''Armada'' Over-Run]] as a Triple Changer, also stating that other Mini-Cons with a third mode are Triple Changers.
*[[IDW Publishing|IDW]]'s ''[[Transformers: Beast Wars Sourcebook|Beast Wars Sourcebook]]'' labels [[B'Boom]] as a Triple Changer but not [[Apache]].
*The mobile game ''[[Transformers: Earth Wars|Earth Wars]]'' identifies [[Sky Lynx (G1)|''G1'' Sky Lynx]] as a Triple Changer, with the appropriate in-game ability boost.

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Triple Changer''' (トリプルチェンジャー ''Toripuru Chenjā''), '''Triplebot''' (Autobots, トリプルボット ''Toripurubotto''), '''Tripletron''' (Decepticons, トリプルトロン ''Toripurutoron'')
*''Hungarian:'' '''Triplaváltozók'''
*''Mandarin:'' '''Sān Pièn Jén''' (Taiwan, 三變人, "Triple Changer"), '''Sān Pièn Chīn Kāng''' (Taiwan, 三變金剛, "Triple-change Vajra"), '''Sānbiàn Zhànshì''' (China, 三变战士, "Triple-change Fighter")
*''Polish:'' '''Trójzmienny'''

==See also==
*[[Super Mode]]
*[[Attack mode]]
*[[Transportation mode]]
*[[:Category:Transformers with three modes|Transformers with three modes]]
*[[Transmetal]]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Beast Wars subgroups]]
[[Category:Cybertron franchise]]
[[Category:Energon franchise]]
[[Category:Generation 1 subgroups]]
[[Category:Gimmicks]]
[[Category:Subgroups]]
[[Category:Toys]]
[[Category:Triple Changers| ]]

Galvatronus (RID)

2017-07-28T02:18:16Z

MissRatbat: Punctuation

{{faction|decepticon}}
{{disambig2|the ''Robots in Disguise'' Decepticon combiner|the Generation 1 Decepticon combiner|Galvatronus (Generations)}}
:''Galvatronus is a [[Decepticon]] [[combiner]] from the [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] portion of the [[Aligned continuity family]].
[[File:RID2015toy Galvatronus.jpg|thumb|right|250px|"For so long, I've been able to take anything I wanted. But it wasn't enough. I should have been able to rule the world with my power! And through you, that's exactly what I'm doing."]]

'''Galvatronus''' is a [[combiner]] composed of [[Cyclonus (WFC)|Cyclonus]], [[Cyberwarp]], [[Skyjack (RID)|Skyjack]], [[Treadshock]], and [[Riotgear]].

==Fiction==
===2015 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===
{{comingsoon}}

==Toys==
===Robots in Disguise (2015)===
*'''Galvatronus''' (Team Combiner, 2017)
:Released as part of the Team Combiners subline, Galvatronus is a 5-pack consists of [[Cyclonus (WFC)|Cyclonus]], the Scout-sized [[Cyberwarp]], [[Skyjack (RID)|Skyjack]], [[Treadshock]], and [[Riotgear]]. While the four Decepticons had simple robot-to-vehicle transformations, Cyclonus has several. The Decepticons can combine to form Galvatronus, although the arms and legs can swap with other Team Combiner limbs, however he can only swap [[Ultra Bee]]'s arms due to its nature as a 4-piece Combiner.
{{comingsoontoy}}

[[Category:Combined forms]]
[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2015) Decepticons]]

Transformers: The Last Knight (film)

2017-07-18T12:17:32Z

MissRatbat: Knights have their title with their given name.

{{Nav-tlk}}
[[File:TLK Poster.JPG|thumb|upright=1.67|So forget any ideas you've got about lost cities, exotic travel, and digging up the world. We do not follow maps to buried treasure, and "X" never, ever marks the spot.]]
'''''Transformers: The Last Knight''''' is the fifth film in the [[live-action film series]], serving as a sequel to ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Transformers: Age of Extinction]]'', and was released on [[June 21]], [[2017]].

When he is gifted a [[Talisman (TLK)|Talisman]] by a dying [[Transformer]] knight, [[Cade Yeager]] finds himself pursued by both the [[Decepticon]]s and the [[Transformers Reaction Force]]. He is soon recruited along with [[Viviane Wembly]] by [[Edmund Burton|Sir Edmund Burton]], last of the [[Order of the Witwiccans]], to once again save the world from a new impending threat.

==Synopsis==
It is the year [[484]] in [[England]]. A medieval battle rages. [[King Arthur]] and his [[Knights of the Round Table|knight]]s are looking down the barrel of defeat at the hands of the [[Saxon]]s, and their only hope lies with the magician [[Merlin]]. Elsewhere Merlin, in reality merely a drunkard, rides up to a long-crashed alien ship and beseeches the occupants for help. He has kept their secret, but now needs their help. The other knights are losing hope, but Arthur believes Merlin will come through. Merlin manages to convince a giant metal knight at the ship to help, and it presents him with a [[Staff of Merlin|staff]], allowing him to return to the battle with a [[Dragonstorm|giant metal dragon]]. The battle is won in favor of Camelot.

Present day: [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] drifts apparently lifeless in space. Both he and [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] have vanished from [[Earth]], and Transformers have been declared illegal, with the [[Transformers Reaction Force]] set up to track them down, though they've found refuge in some places such as [[Cuba]], where [[Seymour Simmons]] is hanging out with the remaining [[Wrecker]]s. Transformers continue to arrive in waves and [[NASA]] scientists detect something large incoming.

Four kids, craving adventure, breach a fence and enter a section of city ruined by a previous Transformer battle. They stumble on a crashed Transformer ship with a still-living occupant. TRF [[Sentinel (TLK)|Sentinels]] close in on them and warn them that they're trespassing; however [[Izabella]] appears out of nowhere to help, slinging bottles of green ooze which result in one Sentinels shooting another. Izabella's tiny robot [[Sqweeks]] wraps a cable around the legs of the remaining Sentinel and it topples over, allowing the kids time to get away. Pursued by another Sentinel, Izabella takes the kids to shelter — a Transformer named [[Canopy]] whose back is a hollow mound of rubble. They're joined by Sqweeks, who's lost his arm in the battle. Canopy and the kids start moving, unaware the TRF has spotted them. Unable to determine what faction Canopy is and with kids possibly in danger, TRF commander [[Santos]] orders an air strike. The missile takes out Canopy, who thanks a tearful Izabella before dying. The kids are soon rescued by [[Cade Yeager]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] who destroy another Sentinel.

Cade drives the kids to the border of the no-go zone and drops them off before returning to the crashed ship. Despite his efforts, the pilot within dies, but not before attempting to present Cade with the [[Talisman (TLK)|Talisman]]. Cade does not take it. He reports the pilot's death to Bumblebee shortly before [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] appears and Cade is suddenly surrounded by TRF forces. Meanwhile, the Talisman sprouts legs and crawls away from the ship. Cade refuses to divulge where the other Transformers are. Bumblebee arrives, only to be blown to pieces by the TRF. Moments later, the parts start reconnecting as Bumblebee reassembles himself, sending the TRF forces into disarray as he does so. He and Cade take Santos hostage, but the standoff is interrupted by the arrival of [[William Lennox|Lennox]] who tries to talk Cade and Bee into standing down. [[Hound (Movie)|Hound]]'s appearance settles things however, and Cade, Bee and Hound leave, though the TRF manages to get a tracking device onto Bumblebee.

Lennox reports to [[Morshower|General Morshower]] who plays a recording of Barricade reporting back to Megatron. Megatron is disappointed Barricade failed to secure the Talisman as it is the object they need to lead them to the staff, but Barricade believes the TRF will lead them to it. Morshower orders Lennox to return to his covert infiltration of the TRF.

Optimus's voyage through space comes to an end as he crashes on the ravaged surface of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], which has been mysteriously disassembled into many pieces. He encounters and attacks [[Quintessa (TLK)|Quintessa]], who claims to be his creator and the "Prime of Life," but she easily restrains him.

As he returns to the [[Junkyard (TLK)|junkyard]] he calls home, Cade realizes that the Talisman has somehow ended up in his vehicle. In England, [[Cogman]] alerts [[Edmund Burton|Sir Edmund Burton]] to the arrival of the Talisman. Elsewhere in England, [[Viviane Wembly]] wins a game of polo for her team before returning to the [[University of Oxford]]. She lectures her class on King Arthur, someone she believes to be a made-up legend, unaware she's being watched by Burton. Burton gives instructions to a nearby parked car.

Quintessa tells Optimus that he must retrieve her staff, stolen by her knight guardians and hidden on Earth.

[[Drift (AOE)|Drift]] and [[Crosshairs (AOE)|Crosshairs]] are hanging out in the junkyard. Cade, Hound, and Bumblebee stop off on their way back so Cade can banter with the local authority, Chief [[Sherman]], who complains that his cruiser has been stolen. The trio continue to the junkyard where [[Jimmy (TLK)|Jimmy]] and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] are looking at online photos of custom cars. They are unaware Izabella and Sqweeks have stowed away on Hound. While Bumblebee and Crosshairs come to blows, Cade persuades Grimlock to cough up Sherman's cruiser, or what's left of it. [[Daytrader]] arrives, bringing [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]'s head and a new voicebox for Bumblebee. He's interested in Cade's Talisman, and says it's a sign of the impending apocalypse. Izabella fronts up to Cade and attempts to pursuade him to let her stay. They return to Cade's trailer for antics with the [[Mini Dinobot]]s and trade stories of lost family members. Izabella manages to impress Cade with her knowledge of Cybertronian physiology and he's convinced to let her stay.

In [[Namibia]], scientists arrive at a location to find a giant metal horn poking out of the ground. News of the horn, and five more like it, get back to Simmons and Burton. Meanwhile the NASA scientists meet with [[President of the United States|presidential]] staff to report they have detected an approaching planet, which they say will arrive in three days.

Helped by Hound, Cade makes an untraceable satellite phone call to [[Tessa Yeager|his daughter]] at college, but is unable to speak to her for fear that his voice will be recognized by the [[CIA]], and can only listen as she tries to convince him to get a girlfriend.

Lennox meets Morshower at the [[Pentagon]] for a briefing on the horns — Megatron has been spotted visiting them and has snatched up two CIA operatives as hostages. Lennox and some lawyers meet with Megatron to negotiate the return of some of his men. They agree to release [[Mohawk]], [[Dreadbot]], and [[Nitro Zeus]]; [[Berserker]], however, turns out to be a step too far, and Megatron is forced to select [[Onslaught (ROTF)|Onslaught]] instead. Morshower believes they can use Megatron so they can get hold of Cade's Talisman themselves.

As morning breaks over the junkyard, the Decepticons prepare to move in, observed by the TRF. Izabella attaches a new arm to Sqweeks, before helping Cade fit Bumblebee's new voicebox. Bee is not happy with the result, which sounds like a GPS. Sherman gives the group advanced warning of the impending Decepticon assault, and the Autobots and humans scramble to get ready to escape. Megatron's group arrives to find the junkyard deserted, at least until Hound pops up and starts shooting. Megatron returns fire. The Autobot group heads into the nearby town, where Drift finds the tracking device on Bee. Grimlock and [[Slug (AOE)|Slug]] ambush the TRF forces en route to the town. Santos has a swarm of unmanned drones sent in. The Decepticons arrive in the middle of town and immediately spot Sqweeks, which draws Izabella out in an attempt to save the tiny Autobot. Cade detonates the explosives hidden around town and flees with Izabella, pursued by Barricade. The 'Con is taken out by Grimlock, and as the battle rapidly turns against the Decepticons, Megatron calls a retreat. Cade, Izabella, and Jimmy take cover in a disused church as the TRF drones move in, however the drones continue to pursue them through the church. Cade and Izabella take two of them out, but Jimmy tries to bluff a third, banking on the idea it's using facial recognition. He gets shot anyway, but fortunately it was only a beanbag.

The trio head into another disused building and enter a lift where they encounter Cogman, who announces he's come to collect Cade. The discussion ends when a drone arrives, and Cade ends up clinging to it as it flies wildly around the street. Cogman phones Sir Burton to report the bad news, but fortunately Cade survives his impromptu flight, partly thanks to the Talisman protecting him from bullets. He manages to ride another drone to the ground and is met by Cogman who explains that he's important because of the Talisman. Crosshairs attempts to prevent Cogman from doing anything, only for the smaller robot to break his finger. Cogman convinces Cade to go with him and leave the others. Cade and Bee accompany Cogman on a plane to England.

Morshower and Lennox track the flight, and note that Megatron's group is giving pursuit. Lennox is ordered to take the TRF team to the UK as well.

Simmons calls Sir Burton to let him know a book has been tracked down. NASA continues tracking the incoming planet, now identified as Cybertron. Quintessa reveals to Optimus that Earth is actually [[Unicron]] and that they're going to kill him with the staff, an act which will destroy Earth and restore Cybertron. Optimus's optics turn purple as Quintessa addresses him as "Nemesis Prime". Optimus swears to fight anyone who interferes with his new mission.

Viviane and her family watch a news report on the giant horns. Conversation turns to her dead father, and her mother suggests she check her father's study in case there's anything useful for her work. Disinterested, she instead gets into her car where an invitation falls out of the glove compartment. The car takes off of its own accord and starts driving her through the streets of [[London]]. When she smashes a window, the car complains in a French accent and throws her into the trunk. She calls for help, having realized she's in a Transformer, and the car [[scanning|scans]] a passing Lamborghini, reconfiguring itself into a copy of the other vehicle.

Cade's plane lands at Sir Burton's castle, where he and Bumblebee are shot at by [[Bulldog (TLK)|a tank Transformer]]. Sir Burton apologizes and takes a look at the Talisman. [[Hot Rod (DOTM)|Hot Rod]] arrives carrying Viviane, who is unhappy at being kidnapped. Once things calm down, Sir Burton explains he's the last of the [[Order of the Witwiccans]]. Cade's boorish behavior towards Viviane results in him being assaulted by Cogman. Sir Burton shows off portraits of his family tree and the Witwiccans, and relates how the Transformers have been helping humans for centuries, such as when Bumblebee and Hot Rod took part in [[World War II]]. They head to another building which houses the original [[Round Table]] used by King Arthur and his knights when they teamed up with the twelve [[Knights of Iacon]]. Further there is a legend that a last knight would be found and thanks to possessing the Talisman, that's Cade. Only Merlin's DNA can unlock the power of the staff, which is where Viviane comes in as a direct descendant of Merlin. She has no idea where the staff might be though. Further discussion is halted as [[MI6]] and TRF forces arrive to assault the castle. Hot Rod's time stopper weapon gives the group enough time to escape.

Simmons makes an irate call to Sir Burton, who is currently being pursued through London and is late for the appointment at [[Trinity Library]]. Bumblebee arrives at Viviane's house with her and Cade, and the pair start rifling through her father's study in search of a clue. Sir Burton's dropped off at the library, but Simmons demands to be inducted into the Order of Witwiccans before he'll point Sir Burton to the book, which reveals Earth is Unicron and points them to [[Stonehenge]]. Cade and Viviane find a clue in an old popup book which points them to the [[HMS Alliance|HMS ''Alliance'']] at the navy museum. The TRF arrive at the house. Meanwhile, Sir Burton and Cogman switch cars and a high-speed chase through the streets of London ensues. Cade and Viviane, now also making a getaway in Bumblebee, let them know about the navy museum. Cogman manages to shake his pursuers while Bumblebee manages to shake Barricade by blasting the Decepticon.

Bumblebee reaches the naval museum at the same time as Cogman and Sir Burton, and they have the HMS ''Alliance'' evacuated. Sir Burton leaves the others to it, explaining that the submarine, in reality a Transformer, knows the way to the staff. The sub launches, with Bumblebee clinging to the exterior so he cam come along for the ride. The sub's departure is noted by TRF and they track it as it heads away from England. The TRF scramble their own submersibles to give chase. A nuclear sub fires missiles at the ''Alliance'' which responds by ramming the other sub and diving deeper into the ocean. Cogman fires himself out through a torpedo tube.

Sir Burton arrives at Number 10 to see the [[Prime Minister of the United Kingdom|Prime Minister]], but is turned away. Cogman returns to the sub with a couple of fish he's caught. Viviane and Cade share clumsy sexual chemistry until Cogman reveals he's made sushi as a "last meal". Sir Burton takes a secret back entrance into Number 10 to talk to the PM, holding off security by threatening to release the [[watch that killed Hitler]]. Sir Burton tells the PM to mobilize the military to Stonehenge. The ''Alliance'' zeros in on a vast undersea Transformer ship, which lights up as they approach. The pursuing TRF subs also spot the ship, but have to make their own way in after the airlock doors close behind the ''Alliance''. The ''Alliance'' surfaces beyond the airlock, and the group starts exploring.

Back at the junkyard, Izabella, Sqweeks, and Crosshairs look up at the approaching Cybertron. Elsewhere, NASA scientists give a briefing as the approaching planet scrapes the surface of the [[Moon (moon)|Moon]]. The doomsday news is broadcast on [[television]] around the world. The subs carrying the TRF teams led by Lennox and Santos emerge into an air pocket, and they move out. Daytrader arrives back at the junkyard with the [[Knight Ship|Autobots' ship]], and the group there prepares to head to England to help out. Cade and Viviane find a chamber holding motionless Knights of Iacon. Cybertron moves into Earth's atmosphere, passing the [[International Space Station]]. Viviane touches a Celtic engraving which reveals Merlin's sarcophagus, inside which they find a wooden staff. As the TRF moves through the same chamber, [[Skullitron|one of the knights]] springs to life. Cade keeps it distracted as the TRF attacks it, eventually bringing it down. Viviane grabs the wooden staff which transforms into metal in her hands. Lennox and Santos attempt to get her to hand it over, but she reveals only she can use it. More knights revive and attack, however a short time later, Optimus kills them and forces Viviane to turn the staff over to him. Sending the others back to the sub, Cade, Lennox, and Bumblebee go after Optimus.

Bumblebee fights with Optimus atop the vast ship as it comes to the surface. Bumblebee manages to get the better of his former leader, and Cade attempt to persuade Optimus to stop fighting. As the ship rises out of the water, Optimus is able to get the upper hand and is prepared to end Bumblebee when Bee manages to talk in his own voice. Shaking Quintessa's influence, Optimus drops his sword, just in time for Megatron to swoop in and claim the staff. After the Decepticons leave, the remaining Knights of Iacon emerge from the ship and are ready to execute Optimus for aiding Quintessa's cause. The Talisman transforms into a sword which Cade uses to block the killing strike, and the Knights recognize Cade as a knight. Though Prime is ready to die, Cade talks him out of sacrificing himself, and Optimus announces they have to destroy Quintessa. Also the other Autobots show up in their ship.

Cybertron makes touchdown on Earth, causing untold destruction. Megatron arrives at Stonehenge with the staff. Lennox contacts Morshower with the coordinates for the "end game", an [[ignition chamber]] which is part of one of the dangling pieces of Cybertron and military forces move in. Cade comes up with a plan to load Ospreys onto the Autobot ship so they can get close enough to the ignition chamber to land. NASA thinks this is a bad plan and works on an alternate idea. The massive ship continues towards Stonehenge where the Decepticons, along with Sir Burton and the military forces, are waiting. At Sir Burton's signal, the military opens fire on the Decepticons as the massive ship arrives directly overhead. Megatron blasts Sir Burton. The Autobots regroup with Cade and the TRF and Optimus Prime gives a stirring speech before blasting off. Cogman manages to find Sir Burton shortly before he expires.

Megatron returns to the Ignition Chamber where Quintessa is waiting. She plugs the staff into the floor, and lightning starts arcing about. The pieces of Cybertron start moving about and joining together, causing those on the ground to run for their lives. Massive worldwide destruction ensues. As the Autobot ship carries Autobots, knights and humans up to their fates, Cade asks Viviane out on a date. Jets soften up the defenses around the ignition chamber while the humans all board the Ospreys, and Cade has it out with Santos. Shamed, the TRF troops all rip off their insignias. The Ospreys launch, and Izabella and Sqweeks reveal they've stowed away on the one carrying Cade and Viviane. Covered by the jets and the giant three-headed dragon, the Ospreys head to the ignition chamber, and crash-land on the surface. The landing site is immediately a war zone as Megatron and his Decepticons stand in their way. Lennox spots the entrance to the chamber, but the team is pinned down by a gun emplacement. Izabella instructs Sqweeks to go blow the gun emplacement up. [[Infernocus]] merges and knocks Bumblebee and co out of the air.

Meanwhile the NASA scientists have come up with a plan to use nukes to cause a nearby chunk of Cybertron to destroy the ignition chamber. Morshower contacts Lennox to let him know the new plan, and the TRF forces start withdrawing. Sqweeks succeeds in blowing up the gun emplacement. Optimus arrives aboard the dragon and takes out Infernocus. As the TRF troops parachute off the platform, the jets nuke the neighbouring chunk of Cybertron. Viviane drops her parachute and heads back towards the chamber, followed by Cade. The chunk hits the platform containing the chamber, however despite the devastating impact, the chamber continues to function. The chamber tumbles down until it comes to rest on another part of Cybertron. Inside, chaos reigns as the Autobots and Decepticons fight and Viviane grabs the staff. Optimus kicks Megatron through a wall shortly before another impact sends the chamber tumbling out of the sky. Optimus and Bumblebee manage to defeat Quintessa, the latter blasting her. Quintessa vanishes in a flash of blue light. Viviane finally pulls the staff free, shutting down the Ignition Chamber just before it crashes to the ground. Optimus dramatically drives out of the cloud of debris raised by its impact, carrying Cade and Viviane. As everyone reunites, Optimus gives another stirring speech about how Earth and Cybertron are now joined as one.

Meanwhile, back in Namibia, Quintessa, now in a human form, walks up to one of the scientists studying the giant metal horn and offers to tell him how to kill Unicron.

==Quotes==
"All right, I am what they say. I'm a liar, a charlatan. I've deceived my whole life, but if I could, for one moment, change this world for the better, I would give up everything! Everything! I'd give up drink! Money! Wom- Drink and money!"
:—'''Merlin'''

"Go to hell!" 
"'This planet ''is'' hell!"
:—'''Izabella''' and '''Megatron''' exchange smack talk

"The end is near, my old treacherous friend...what a shame you'll be unable to see it."
:—'''Megatron''' musing to the decapitated head of Starscream

"Don't kill the messenger... or the messenger will kill ''you''."
:—'''Cogman'''

"You are needed, sir. Urgently. My master is fond of saying that all the important decisions in life often come down to just one moment."
:—'''Cogman''' impresses on Cade the gravity of the situation.

"Introductions. Miss Viviane Wembly: Master of History, Oxford; Doctor of Philosophy, also Oxford; and Doctor of Letters, Oxford again, I think. Anything else? Anyway, meet Cade." 
"... Yeager. Cade Yeager. I'm an inventor."
:—'''Sir Edmund Burton''' and '''Cade Yeager'''

'''Hot Rod:''' "Bonjour, chérie! Je M'appelle Hot Rôd." 
'''Viviane:''' "Ut what?" 
'''Hot Rod:''' "Hot ''Rôd.''" 
'''Viviane''' "Hut Rud?" 
'''Hot Rod:''' "''Hot Rôd!''" 
'''Sir Edmund Burton:''' "Hot. Rod." 
'''Hot Rod:''' "Mhmm." 
'''Sir Edmund Burton:''' "It's his French accent." 
'''Viviane:''' "Is he French?" 
'''Sir Edmund Burton:''' "No, he just likes the accent." 
'''Hot Rod:''' "Non! No no no, I ''hate'' the accent! But I can't get rid of it! I'm ''stuck'' with the accent!"
:—Everybody loves '''Hot Rod'''.

"I-I am Bumblebee...your oldest friend! Optimus...I would lay down my life for you."
:—'''Bumblebee''' regains his voice, and Optimus regains his mind.

"Did you forget who I am? I am Optimus Prime!"
:—'''Optimus''' as he kills the Infernocons. They should've run for cover, or at least DUCKED.

"We were brothers once!" 
"''Once.''"
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus Prime'''

"At the heart of every legend, there is truth: a few brave souls unite to save the world. We can be heroes in our own lives, every one of us, if we only have the courage to try. Our fates were always intertwined, but now our worlds are joined as one. We need to repair our planets, work together, if we wish to survive. A dangerous secret is buried deep inside the Earth. There is more to this planet than meets the eye. I am Optimus Prime, calling all Autobots...it is time to come home."
:—'''Optimus Prime'''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s closing narration.

==Characters==
{{featuredcharacters|
h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] ([[Peter Cullen]])
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] ([[Erik Aadahl]])
*[[Hot Rod (DOTM)|Hot Rod]] ([[Omar Sy]])
*[[Hound (Movie)|Hound]] ([[John Goodman]])
*[[Drift (AOE)|Drift]] ([[Ken Watanabe]])
*[[Crosshairs (AOE)|Crosshairs]] ([[John DiMaggio]])
*[[Cogman]] ([[Jim Carter]])
*[[Sqweeks]] ([[Reno Wilson]])
*[[Grimlock (AOE)|Grimlock]]
*[[Slug (AOE)|Slug]]
*[[Mini Dinobot|Mini-Dinobots]]
**Mini Grimlock
**Mini Slug
**Mini Strafe
*[[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] ([[Tom Kenny]])
*[[Daytrader]] ([[Steve Buscemi]])
*[[Topspin (DOTM)|Topspin/"Volleybot"]] ([[Steven Barr]])
*[[Canopy]] ([[Frank Welker]])
*"[[Bulldog (TLK)|Bulldog/WWI Tank/Lieutenant]]" ([[Mark Ryan]])
*[[Excavator Autobot]]
*[[Hurricane Autobot]]
*[[Northrop Autobot]]
*[[HMS Alliance|HMS ''Alliance'']] Autobot

|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] (Frank Welker)
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] ([[Jess Harnell]]/Frank Welker)*
*[[Nitro Zeus]] (John DiMaggio/Steven Barr)**
*[[Mohawk]] (Reno Wilson)
*[[Onslaught (ROTF)|Onslaught]] (John DiMaggio/Steven Barr)**
*[[Dreadbot]]
*[[Berserker]] (Steven Barr)
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]'s head
*Decepticon [[protoform]]s

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*[[Cade Yeager]] ([[Mark Wahlberg]])
*[[Viviane Wembly]] ([[Laura Haddock]])
*[[William Lennox]] ([[Josh Duhamel]])
*[[Izabella]] ([[Isabela Moner]])
*[[Edmund Burton|Sir Edmund Burton]] ([[Anthony Hopkins]])
*[[Seymour Simmons]] ([[John Turturro]])
*[[Santos]] ([[Santiago Cabrera]])
*[[Jimmy (TLK)|Jimmy]] ([[Jerrod Carmichael]])
*[[Morshower]] ([[Glenn Morshower]])
*[[Merlin]] ([[Stanley Tucci]])
*[[King Arthur|King Arthur]] ([[Liam Garrigan]])
*[[JPL Engineer]] ([[Tony Hale]])

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*[[Dragonstorm]]
**[[Dragonicus]]
**[[Stormreign]]
**[[Skullitron]] ([[Frank Welker]])
**[[Steelbane]]

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*[[Quintessa (TLK)|Quintessa]] ([[Gemma Chan]])
*[[Infernocus]]
**[[Infernocon]]s
*[[Unicron]]
*The [[watch that killed Hitler]]
*[[Vatti Transformer]]
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}}
* *The last few lines that Barricade has in the movie are dubbed by Frank Welker, while Jess Harnell voices Barricade for the rest of the movie.
* **Nitro Zeus' voice actor varies depending on the version of the film, with one having him played by John DiMaggio, and the other with him played by Steven Barr. Same thing applies with Onslaught, but with a single line.

==Continuity notes==
*Optimus left Earth at the end of [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|the last movie]], to look for the mysterious [[Creator (AOE)|Creators]]. No sign or mention of that [[Seed]] he was carrying, though he announced at the time he was going to take it where "it can never be found."
*The Dinobots were "set free" by Optimus at the end of the last movie, though they have since joined up with the main Autobot team in hiding, presumably for pragmatic reasons.
*Cade's daughter Tessa was a soon to graduate high school student in ''Age of Extinction'', and she has since gone on to college.
*Izabella's parents were killed during the Decepticon invasion in ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''.
*Starscream was killed by a [[NEST]] boomstick at the climax of ''Dark of the Moon''. ''Age of Extinction'' established that scavengers had salvaged many objects from the Battle of Chicago.
*Megatron addresses Starscream's disembodied head as "my treacherous old friend". Back in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', Megatron accused Starscream of abandoning him to die in the [[Transformers (film)|first movie]]. We wouldn't call that a justified accusation, but what can we do? It's the word of a dead skull against that of the universe's greatest warlord.
*While [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] was killed by [[Cemetery Wind]] in a video recording in ''Age of Extinction'', his two fellow [[Wrecker]]s were nowhere to be seen. This film reveals both to have survived.
*When Viviane is abducted by Hot Rod, she asks if her captor is a famous Transformer such as [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] or [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]].
*Daytrader gives the Autobots [[Knight Ship|Lockdown's ship]], which was last seen being attacked by [[People's Liberation Army|Chinese military]] jets in Hong Kong.
*The T.R.F. uses the exact same tactic to take out one of the Knights as N.E.S.T. used to take out Shockwave and Barricade in ''Dark of the Moon''.
*The ''Ark'' is briefly seen on the Moon, where it was revealed to be back in ''Dark of the Moon'', having been left there untouched in the years since, along with the site of the [[Apollo 11]] moon landing.
*Among the landmarks trashed by the hanging chunks of Cybertron is the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]], where the climax of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' took place, recognizable by the top missing to reveal the Star Harvester hidden underneath.
*The Decepticons are seen using several [[Orbital Assault Carrier]]s, as they were in ''Dark of the Moon'', though there's no word on if these Carriers are the same ones from the Chicago operation.
*Quintessa teleports herself away; she seems to have a bodily [[space bridge]] much as [[The Fallen]] did.
*It's never made clear whether or not [[Quintessa (TLK)|Quintessa]] is one the [[Creator (AOE)|Creators]] alluded to in the previous film. She claims to be the "[[Prime (rank)|Prime]] of Life" and to have created the [[Transformer|Cybertronian]] species, but that is up for debate.
*Drift only has one of his swords, like the end of the previous film, showing that he never retrieved the other from the battle with the KSI drones.
*Sir Burton states that Viviane is the last living descendant of Merlin, along with stating that he is the last living member of the Witwiccans, indirectly stating that [[Sam Witwicky|Sam]] is dead at this point.

==Transformers references==
* Quintessa is a loose adaptation of the [[Quintesson]]s—the recurring race of antagonistic extraterrestrials who terrorized both the Autobots and Decepticons in season 3 of the original 1980's cartoon. In the cartoon continuity, the Quintessons were the creators of the Transformers, in the same way that Quintessa claims to be in the film. Here, though, Quintessa seems to be physically based off of [[Quintus Prime]], a relatively new character introduced through 2013's ''[[Transformers: The Covenant of Primus|The Covenant of Primus]]''; the decision to make the character female is something wholly new, although it may speak to some influence from [[Solus Prime]].
* Unicron having a connection to the Earth seems inspired by the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' cartoon; in that series, Unicron's ''was'' the core of the Earth, with the rest of the planet having formed around his dormant body during his hibernation. Whether or not this corporeality holds true for this incarnation of Unicron remains to be seen.
* When Optimus Prime falls under Quintessa's control, he is dubbed "[[Nemesis Prime (disambiguation)|Nemesis Prime]]", an obvious reference to the evil clone of Optimus Prime that has appeared in many [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|conti]][[Nemesis Prime (G1)|nui]][[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|ties]].
* Edmund Burton claims Cogman is a [[Headmaster (technology)|"headmaster"]], which is typically a human-sized bot that transforms into the head of a larger bot. While this reference ''is'' borne out by his [[Cogman#Toys|toy]], which features a larger vehicle body and a detachable head, we don't actually see Cogman do anything like that in the movie itself.
*This is not the first time the Transformers have been [[A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court (episode)|associated with Arthurian times]].
* Galvatron eventually returns back to using his true name. [[Megatron (Armada)|Like we haven't seen that before]].

==Real-life references==
*The bogus voice box Bumblebee gets from Daytrader has the voice of {{w|Siri}}, the AI assistant found in most iPhones.
*Crosshairs calls Cogman a "[[Star_Wars_(film)|C-3PO]] ripoff".
*Sir Edmund Burton quotes the song ''[[w:It's a Long Way to Tipperary|It's a Long Way to Tipperary]]'' in reference to World War I.

==Other editions==
*Two versions of the film were released to theaters: one screened in English-speaking countries, which seems to be the "finished" version, and another shown internationally, with foreign language subtitles, which appears to be an earlier version. There are numerous differences in dialogue between the two versions, with some lines being dropped, added, or changed completely for the finished version, including ones that even help to make the film make more sense!
**When Hound shows up when TRF are talking to Bee and Cade, in the finished version he says, "Sorry I'm late! My invitation to this ass-kicking must have gotten lost in the mail." The alternate version has him say "Mornin', fellas! I like showing up to a gun fight! This round mound's gonna mow you down. Translation: Sayonara, suckers!"
**When Daytrader says "You always resort to violence, right off the bat!", in the finished version Hound replies "I love violence!". Hound does not reply in the alternate version.
**Izabella laughs at Cade's attempts to make Grimlock spit out the cruiser in the alternate cut, but remains silent in the final version.
**When Jimmy and Wheelie argue, the finished version has Wheelie back down a bit when Jimmy threatens and grabs him, with Wheelie adding that Jimmy is the worst "senior vice president ever". In the alternate cut, Wheelie continues to berate him , threatening "I'll have my Autobot brethren kick your ass!". Oddly, he still flails his hands around when he's not saying anything in the latter version, meaning his animation is meant to be paired with the "finished" audio.
**In the "earlier" version, all of Nitro Zeus's dialogue is provided by Steven Barr, and the actor receives an on-screen credit for the role. For the "finished" version, it was all re-recorded by John DiMaggio (with the credits altered to reflect the change), with some differences. During his introduction, for instance, the finished version has him say: "I know where you live, Enrique, say hello to your wife for me!" while the other, he says: "By the way, Enrique, Chad's sleeping with your wife!"
**In the final film, Onslaught's single line of dialogue was recorded by DiMaggio, while Barr re-recorded said line in the alternate version. Deja vu huh?
**When arriving at the Junkyard, DiMaggio-Nitro remarks "Aw man, I kicked more ass in prison!" upon learning that Cade and co. have left, while in the alternate version Barr-Nitro says "Unfortunate, because I was looking to knock some heads!".
**While Megatron is musing to the head of Starscream, as he says "The end is near", DiMaggio-Nitro cuts in with "Oh, she's coming!" while Barr-Nitro remains silent.
**When the Decepticons arrive in the abandoned town, Barr-Nitro says: "I know they're close!" while DiMaggio-Nitro says: "Oh, I feel a fight comin'!"
**In the final film, when the Autobots discover the tracker planted on Bumblebee, Crosshairs remarks "The tracker led 'em right to us! When are you gonna grow up?" but in the alternate version, he says "What's this? You brought 'em right to us!"
**In the final film, after Drift kills Onslaught ("and his fat head!"), Crosshairs remarks, "Don't get any deader than that!" In the alternate version, Crosshairs is silent, and Drift instead says "Fantastic!" after his quip about Onslaught's head. In the final film, Drift's lips are still visibly moving at the point when he says "Fantastic!" in the alternate cut.
**After the town battle, Crosshairs calls the TRF drones "gnats" as he shoots them down in the finished version. He remains silent in the alternate version.
**In the finished version, when Crosshairs is talking about Cogman he says, "Hey Cade, what's with the C-3PO ripoff?", but in the alternate version he says, "I'll swat this metal cockroach for you Cade."
**Crosshairs whines that his finger is broken in the background when Cogman is speaking to Cade in the finished version. He remains silent in the alternate version.
**When Megatron steals the staff from Optimus, the "finished" film features Nitro Zeus saying: "You blew your chance to kill Unicron!" followed by Megatron saying: "I knew you couldn't do it. Your time is over, Prime! You failed!" The other has no Nitro Zeus dialogue, and instead features Megatron saying: "Quintessa, the most ruthless of our Gods, knew you couldn't do it. She knows I'm strong and you're weak."
**When the Knights of Iacon attack Optimus, in the alternate version one of the Knights tells Prime "She put you under a spell!". In the finished version, that line was removed.
**Barricade has an extra line at Stonehenge in the alternate version, where he says "Yes! Drain Unicron! He will be powerless!"
**The finished version adds an extra line between Cade and Lennox on Cybertron about Optimus never having made it to the Ignition Chamber, while the alternate version never acknowledges his absence.
**When Optimus Prime attacks Quintessa, In the finished version she says, "You traitor!", and Optimus retracts his faceplate. In the alternate version she says, "Nemesis! You traitor!", and Optimus' faceplate does not retract.
**The final version has Quintessa scream as Bumblebee blasts her, while Bumblebee quips "Sting like a bee!"—but in the other version, Quintessa is silent, and Bumblebee's dialogue is very slightly different, with him saying "''I'' sting like a bee."
*The Chinese release adds roughly 2 minutes of content just for soft-advertising.

==Errors==
===Continuity errors===
*Sir Edmund says the battle depicted at the start of the movie took place in 484 AD, while a caption over the first present day scene says it takes place 1600 years later, which would result in the rest of the film taking place in 2084.
*No explanation is offered for how Galvatron has become Megatron again. He even transforms normally now, as opposed to bursting into a cloud of [[Transformium]] and reforming the way he did in ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]]''.
*When Cade and Izzy are fitting a new voice box into Bumblebee, it is clear that they are using a prop on set, with no sign of Bumblebee's body. It is possible that due to his reforming ability, Bee was able to remove his head for the procedure. His head being reattached to his body is not shown.
*How does Daytrader have [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]'s head if it was destroyed in the third film?
*Just before the Decepticons invades the junkyard, Drift is shown with both his swords.
*Sqweeks is missing his scavenged Decepticon arm when the Decepticons invade the junkyard, his original arm appearing back in its place. It returns in all subsequent scenes with the character.
*The abandoned town the Autobots and humans seek refuge in has buildings which are a few stories tall at most, then Jimmy, Cade and Izabella are abruptly in a multi-story building with janitorial staff and an external lift when they encounter Cogman. After Cade's ride on a drone, they're suddenly back in the area with no tall buildings in sight.
*Ironhide and Optimus Prime are depicted in historical paintings, but both were clearly seen arriving on Earth in the [[Transformers (film)|first film]]. Though it could be possible that they came and went from Earth, or that other Transformers looked the same.
*How does Hot Rod have the Lamborghini chest in an old war photo if he selected the new disguise merely seconds ago and Lamborghini didn't ''exist'' until 1963?
*Despite the Decepticons all following Cade and Bumblebee to England, only Barricade apparently bothers to try to track them down once there.
*Bumblebee tears out the "defective" voicebox yet is able to talk to Optimus later with no voicebox.
*Optimus remarks that he has not heard Bumblebee's voice "since Cybertron fell". Bumblebee actually spoke with his real voice briefly at the end of the [[Transformers (film)|first film]], albeit it with a different voice actor.
*Where does Optimus go between taking off after giving his speech, and later turning up on Dragonstorm? The "finished" version of the film briefly addresses this by adding an exchange between Cade and Lennox, where the latter says Optimus didn't make it.
*En-route to Cybertron, despite Bumblebee having regained his voice, he once again insists on speaking with an audio clip.

===Technical/animation errors===
*A promotional clip of the scene showing Hot Rod and Viviane's arrival at Burton's estate appears to feature an actor other than Omar Sy performing Hot Rod's voice. Presumably, it was just the "scratch track" that Sy then recorded over; Hot Rod's first line in the clip ("Leetle lady, non!") is replaced in the film (with "Non non non, leetle lady, why do you have to be like zat? Pour quoi?") but his second ("She's very difficult!") remains performed by the scratch track actor.
*When Cade, Viviane, and Cogman are aboard HMS ''Alliance'', there is a camera shot of Cade looking through the periscope with Cogman to the right of screen. The camera angle then changes and shows Viviane in another part of the chamber. The camera returns to Cade, Cogman has vanished. The camera pans back to Viviane again, then returns to Cade, with Cogman back in the shot.
*Bumblebee just sort of...appears in the room where Merlin's staff is held, having not been there ''the entire scene'', and then suddenly standing next to Cade as Optimus leaves with the staff.
*That's not Jess Harnell providing Barricade's dialogue at Stonehenge.

===Geographic discontinuities===
*When the authorities arrive at Burton's mansion, it is noted that "TRF and MI6" are in pursuit. In real life, MI6 is the UK's ''external'' intelligence agency; it is more likely that {{w|MI5}}, the UK's domestic intelligence agency, would be the British central government's agency present.
*American street signs of the hanging green-coloured variety can be seen during the chase scene in London.
*Viviane leads her class from a large, expansive archaeological museum into the Oxford University Museum of Natural History. While there is an archaeological museum attached to the Natural History Museum, it looks nothing like the one featured in the film.

==Adaptations==
==Music==
==Score==
:''Main Article'': [[The Last Knight (Music From the Motion Picture)]]
Continuing the tradition of the previous films, the music is once again composed by [[Steve Jablonsky]]. The ending theme of the movie is Torches by [[X Ambassadors]].

==Home video releases==
==Theatrical posters==
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==Reception==

{{quote|[sighs] Here we go again.|BBC Radio 5 critic Mark Kermode on ''The Last Knight''<ref>[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ee6xh5AmQo Mark Kermode review]</ref>}}

After four films where critics hated it but the audience showered it with money, ''The Last Knight'' broke the trend by ''not'' being showered with money. It had been projected to make $70-75m in its first days in North America, itself the lowest opening<ref>[http://deadline.com/2017/06/spider-man-homecoming-hoping-to-catch-opening-in-the-100m-vicinity-1202114641/ Deadline, June 15th 20917: "‘Spider-Man: Homecoming’ Hoping To Catch Opening In The $100M Vicinit"]</ref>, but that was downgraded to $63m after the first few days were even lower than the lowest expected.<ref>[http://deadline.com/2017/06/transformers-the-last-knight-opening-weekend-box-office-1202118976/ "Deadline: ‘Transformers’ Still Rusty At $63M+"]</ref> In the end it made almost $70m over the first five days, better than the revised projection but lower than all of the previous films. <ref>[http://deadline.com/2017/06/transformers-the-last-knight-opening-weekend-box-office-1202118976/ Deadline: "Why ‘Transformers’ Is Screaming For Reboot After $69M Start; ‘Wonder Woman’ & ‘Cars 3’ Fight Over 2nd Place"], 25th June 2017</ref> By mid-July, after over three weeks, the film had grossed $122.1m in North America against a $217m budget (not counting marketing costs). This meant a lot of critics began to zero in on the sluggish profit, taking the view that American audiences were just getting bored of Bay's version of the franchise.

Internationally the film did $196.2m in the same first five days, of which $123.4m came from [[China]] alone<ref>[http://deadline.com/2017/06/transformers-the-last-knight-opening-weekend-box-office-1202118976/ Deadline: "Why ‘Transformers’ Is Screaming For Reboot After $69M Start; ‘Wonder Woman’ & ‘Cars 3’ Fight Over 2nd Place"], 25th June 2017</ref>(who love the franchise so much delaying ''The Last Knight'' reduced 2016 cinema growth to 3%, down from 48% in 2015!)<ref>[https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/06/11/transformers-gears-up-for-another-1-billion-box-office-bounty/#659ff09e2325 Forbes: "'Transformers' Gears Up For Another $1 Billion Box Office Bounty"]</ref> The Chinese had been expected to spend up to $290m on the film's run. <ref>[http://variety.com/2017/film/asia/chinas-weying-boards-paramounts-transformers-the-last-knight-1202465635/ Variety:"China’s Weying Boards Paramount’s ‘Transformers: The Last Knight’"]</ref> However, in its second week in China takings dropped by a harsh 75% and after 10 days it had only grossed $198 million, which was seen as a disappointment—some pundits had expected $400m from China—and left it unlikely the film would perform as well as ''Age of Extinction'' had.<ref>[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-box-office-transformers-5-crashes-back-earth-75-percent-slide-second-weekend-1018449]</ref> ''The Hollywood Reporter'' visited a [[Shanghai]] screening and reported "walkouts, general disinterest and plenty of snickering over a conspicuous abundance of [Chinese] product placement" despite a truly massive PR campaign and the fourth film's mega-popularity. Chinese social media made it clear the plot was too complicated and the product placement, all products the Chinese knew weren't in America, was too dumb; the audience found it ''very'' funny when the Autobots looked up a Chinese used car website.<ref>[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/transformers-last-knight-has-pandering-chinese-audiences-hurt-transformers-5-1016926 The Hollywood Reporter: "Has Pandering to Chinese Audiences Hurt 'Transformers 5'?", July 2 2017]</ref>

==Production staff==
The film was directed by [[Michael Bay]], and was written by [[Art Marcum]], [[Matt Holloway]], and [[Ken Nolan]].

==Development details==
[[File:Transformers 5 provisional logo.png|thumb|right|143px|Transfivemers doesn't have the same ring to it.]]
*December 18, 2014 — [[Mark Wahlberg]] confirms to MTV that he is signed on for the next two Transformers films.<ref>[http://www.mtv.com/news/2030612/mark-wahlberg-transformers-5/ Mark Wahlberg Just Found A 'Transformers' Sequel] on MTV.com</ref>
*March 27, 2015 — [[Paramount Pictures]] negotiates with [[Akiva Goldsman]], hiring him to create a "writer's room" with the intention of building a cinematic universe.<ref name="goldsman">[http://deadline.com/2015/03/transformers-akiva-goldsman-paramount-sequels-spinoffs-1201400027/ Paramount Enlisting Akiva Goldsman To Ramp Up 'Transformers' Output] on deadline.com</ref> Goldsman goes on to hire a number of writers over the next few months: [[Steven DeKnight]] (''Daredevil''),<ref>[http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/transformers-cinematic-universe/35696/transformers-cinematic-details-more-writers-over-10-films Transformers cinematic details]</ref> [[Robert Kirkman]] (''The Walking Dead''),<ref name="deadlinewritersroom">[http://deadline.com/2015/05/transformers-writers-robert-kirkman-zak-penn-art-marcum-matt-holloway-jeff-pinkner-1201430601/ 'Transformers' Spinoff & Sequel Scribes Set] on Deadline.com</ref> [[Art Marcum]] and [[Matt Holloway]] (''Iron Man''),<ref name="deadlinewritersroom" /> [[Christina Hodson]] (''Shut In'', ''The Fugitive''),<ref name="hodsonbeer">[http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/446175-christina-hodson-and-lindsey-beer-join-transformers-writing-team Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer Join the Transformers Writing Team]</ref> [[Lindsey Beer]] (''Dig''),<ref name="hodsonbeer" /> [[Zak Penn]] (''Pacific Rim 2''),<ref name="deadlinewritersroom" /> [[Jeff Pinkner]] (''The Amazing Spider-Man 2'', ''Lost''),<ref name="deadlinewritersroom" /> [[Andrew Barrer]] and [[Gabriel Ferrari]] (''Ant-Man''),<ref name="barrerferrari">[http://deadline.com/2015/05/transformers-ant-man-andrew-barrer-gabriel-ferrari-cybertron-1201433402/ 'Ant-Man' Scribes Andrew Barrer & Gabriel Ferrari Join 'Transformers' Writers Room] on Deadline</ref> [[Ken Nolan]] (''Black Hawk Down''), and [[Geneva Robertson-Dworet]].<ref name="nolandworet">[http://www.slashfilm.com/transformers-writers-room/ Akiva Goldsman Teases 'Transformers' Franchise Plans]</ref> Involved in the pitching process are [[Steven Spielberg]], [[Michael Bay]], [[Brian Goldner]], [[Lorenzo di Bonaventura]], [[Mark Vahradian]], and [[Don Murphy]].<ref name="deadlinereveal">[http://deadline.com/2015/09/transformers-writers-room-akiva-goldsman-transformers-5-1201531918/ 'Transformers' Writers Room Wraps] on Deadline</ref>
*May 27, 2015 — As part of the news surrounding Barrer and Ferrari joining the room, it's revealed that another pitch is an animated prequel movie set on Cybertron, with the working title of ''[[Transformers One]]''.<ref name="barrerferrari" />
*June 8, 2015 — The writers meet on the Paramount lot for the writer's room.<ref name="nolandworet" /> The writers work for the next three months to plot out the next ten years of ''Transformers'' films.<ref name="stephendaviskeynote">[https://youtu.be/F_P2fw_DlS4?t=812 Stephen Davis's keynote speech] at MIPJunior.</ref>
*July 28, 2015 — DeKnight reports that as a result of the gathering of writers, Goldsman and Pinkner will be co-writing Transformers 5.<ref name="deknightreveals">[http://au.ign.com/articles/2015/07/28/daredevils-steven-deknight-on-the-transformers-writers-room-and-planning-ahead Daredevil's Steven DeKnight on the Transformers Writers Room and Planning Ahead] on IGN</ref>
*September 17, 2015 — Deadline reveals more about the writer's room process and reports that Barrer and Ferrari will write the animated feature, with Pinkner and Beer writing later films.<ref name="deadlinereveal" /> Bay remains uncommitted to directing.<ref>[https://twitter.com/michaelbay/status/644622092110032896 Tweet by Michael Bay]</ref>
*October 3, 2015 — [[Hasbro Studios]]'s [[Stephen J. Davis]] relates more details of the writing process in a keynote speech at the MIP Junior Conference.<ref name="stephendaviskeynote" />
*November 20, 2015 — With Goldsman now enlisted to create a writer's room for ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'' and ''[[Microman|Micronauts]]'', Paramount begins negotiating with Marcum, Holloway and Nolan to write the film.<ref>[http://deadline.com/2015/11/transformers-g-i-joe-micronauts-akiva-goldsman-paramount-hasbro-1201632388/ Akiva Goldsman 'Transformers' Writers Room Leads Paramount & Hasbro To Set One For 'G.I. Joe', 'Micronauts'] on Deadline</ref>
*December 14, 2015 — Wahlberg re-confirms in an interview with CinePop that he'll be back in Transformers 5.<ref>[http://cinepop.com.br/exclusivo-mark-wahlberg-confirma-ao-cinepop-que-estara-em-transformers-5-109295 Mark Wahlberg interview with CinePop]</ref>
*January 4, 2016 — Bay confirms he will be returning to direct.<ref name="rollingstone">[http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/features/13-hours-can-michael-bay-pull-off-a-gritty-movie-about-benghazi-20160104 '13 Hours': Can Michael Bay Pull Off a Gritty Movie About Benghazi?] on Rolling Stone</ref>
*January 12, 2016 — It's totally definitely the last ''Transformers'' film for him this time though.<ref>[https://youtu.be/Yn9bkPNV4JA?t=472 Michael Bay interview with Collider]</ref>
*February 12, 2016 — Transformers 5 is now being released on June 23, 2017. In addition, [[Transformers Universe: Bumblebee|Transformers 6]], acting as a [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] spin-off, and [[Transformers 7]] are set to be released respectively on [[June 8]], 2018 and [[June 28]], 2019.<ref name="toyfairreveal">[http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/02/12/transformers-5-transformers-6-bumblebee-spin-off-movie-revealed-309503 Transformers 5, Transformers 6 And Bumblebee Spin-Off Movie Revealed] ToyFair news at TFW2005</ref><ref>[http://news.tfw2005.com/2016/02/12/transformers-6-tentative-title-revealed-bumblebee-movie-309597 Transformers 6 Tentative Title Revealed – The Bumblebee Movie] at TFW2005</ref>
*February 18, 2016 — Casting calls go out for June filming in [[London]] and [[Detroit]], also confirming [[Peter Cullen]]'s return as [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]].<ref>[http://www.acting-auditions.org/2016/02/transformers-5-casting-calls-for-new-lead-roles.html Transformers 5 casting call for new lead roles] on acting-auditions.org</ref>
*February 26, 2016 — After negotiations, it's announced that Michigan will provide $21 million in incentives towards the film.<ref>[http://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MIEDC/bulletins/138dd29 'Transformers 5' lands in Detroit] from the Michigan Film & Digital Media Office</ref>
[[File:TLK Optiface Prime.jpg|thumb|right|300px|5 movies in and [[Michael Bay]] is still finding ways to make my face even more ridiculously detailed. Pretty soon I'm going to look like [[Deceptigod]].]]
*April 6, 2016 — Cinematographer [[Jonathan Sela]] is reported as being booked to work on the film.<ref>[http://variety.com/2016/artisans/news/agencies-book-artisans-on-fast-8-transformers-5-to-the-bone-macgyver-and-altered-carbon-1201747892/ Agencies Book Artisans on 'Fast 8,' 'Transformers 5,' 'To the Bone,' 'MacGyver' and 'Altered Carbon'] on Variety</ref>
*April 13, 2016 — Filming dates are revealed via a casting call on acting-auditions.org.<ref>[http://www.acting-auditions.org/2016/04/transformers-5-casting-calls-auditions-information.html 'Transformers 5' Casting Calls and Auditions Information] on acting-auditions.org</ref>
*May 12, 2016 — [[Isabela Moner]] tweets that she's been cast in the movie.<ref>[https://twitter.com/isabelamoner/status/730835465163530241 Tweet by Isabela Moner]</ref>
*May 14, 2016 — Bay suggests [[Tyrese Gibson]] is under consideration to return.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/BFXbTA2IWpr/]</ref>
*May 16, 2016 — The film's title is officially revealed to be ''Transformers: The Last Knight'' in [https://www.instagram.com/p/BFfCGhRoMmW/?taken-by=transformersmoviea teaser trailer] posted on a newly-launched Transformers Movie Instagram.
*May 17, 2016 — [[Josh Duhamel]] announced to be returning for ''Transformers: The Last Knight''.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/BFg6ffIoMvx/]</ref>
*May 25, 2016 — Michael Bay posts a [https://www.instagram.com/p/BF1sPamoWtc/?taken-by=michaelbay photo] as production begins in Cuba.
*May 27, 2016 — A [https://twitter.com/transformers/status/736286302870605824 teaser] is posted containing morse code which translates to "I'm coming for you May 31st."
*May 31, 2016 — Michael Bay posts [https://www.instagram.com/p/BGFEZ9vIWv1/a video] of [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] and announces production is about to start.
*June 3, 2016 — [[Anthony Hopkins]] joins the cast.<ref>[http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/anthony-hopkins-joins-transformers-5-899343]</ref>
*June 4, 2016 — [https://www.instagram.com/p/BGPsjYZoMpq/?taken-by=transformersmovie&hl=en First look] at [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]'s vehicle mode, which is a 2016 Chevrolet Camaro.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/BGPsjYZoMpq/?taken-by=transformersmovie&hl=en Bumblebee vehicle mode reveal]</ref>
*June 4, 2016 — The [[Freya|World's Loneliest Dog]] is cast.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2016/06/04/freya/ MichaelBay.com - Freya]</ref>
*June 10, 2016 — [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] is confirmed to return as a 2016 Ford Mustang.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/BGes1IfoMqf/?taken-by=transformersmovie&hl=en]</ref>
*June 18, 2016 — [[Mitch Pileggi]] reveals he has a role.<ref>[https://twitter.com/mitchpileggi1/status/743667068138979329 Tweet from Mitch Pileggi]</ref>
[[File:TLK Bumblebee profile.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Back to the basics.]]
*June 20, 2016 — [[Laura Haddock]] joins the cast.<ref>[https://twitter.com/laurajhaddock/status/744915023299026944 Tweet from Laura Haddock]</ref>
*June 22, 2016 — New robot character [[Sqweeks]] is revealed.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/BG-IEBroWgA/ Michael Bay on Instagram]</ref>
*June 28, 2016 — Tyrese Gibson is confirmed to return.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/BHLBipSDqcO/ Tyrese on Instagram]</ref>
*June 30, 2016 — [[Santiago Cabrera]] joins the cast.<ref>[https://www.instagram.com/p/BHSfP9EAIi_/ Official movie Instagram reveal of Santiago Cabrera]</ref>
*July 1, 2016 — [[Drift (AOE)|Drift]] is confirmed to return with a new Mercedes alt-mode.<ref>[http://michaelbay.com/2016/07/01/drift/ Drift - MichaelBay.com]</ref>
*July 27, 2016 — [[Onslaught (ROTF)|Onslaught]] is confirmed to appear in the film.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/photos/a.196236317078490.37515.180774635291325/1112021768833269/?type=3&theater Onslaught photo] on the official Transformers movie Facebook page.</ref>
*August 4–13, 2016 — A series of character profiles are released on the official movie Facebook. New character [[Hot Rod (DOTM)|Hot Rod]]<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/photos/a.196236317078490.37515.180774635291325/1116775651691214/?type=3&theater Hot Rod Facebook reveal]</ref> is first to be revealed, and [[Crosshairs (AOE)|Crosshairs]]<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/photos/a.196236317078490.37515.180774635291325/1119387291430050/?type=3&theater Crosshairs Facebook reveal]</ref> and [[Hound (Movie)|Hound]]<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/photos/a.196236317078490.37515.180774635291325/1120161021352677/?type=3&theater Hound Facebook reveal]</ref> are confirmed to return. Also shown are profiles for Drift,<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/photos/a.196236317078490.37515.180774635291325/1117988908236555/?type=3&theater Drift Facebook reveal]</ref> Sqweeks,<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/photos/a.196236317078490.37515.180774635291325/1118574891511290/?type=3&theater Sqweeks Facebook reveal]</ref> Barricade,<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/photos/a.196236317078490.37515.180774635291325/1120871694614943/?type=3&theater Barricade Facebook reveal]</ref> Megatron,<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/photos/a.196236317078490.37515.180774635291325/1121491451219634/?type=3&theater Megatron Facebook reveal]</ref> and Bumblebee.<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/photos/a.196236317078490.37515.180774635291325/1122785391090240/?type=3&theaterBumblebee Facebook reveal]</ref>
*August 9, 2016 — Members of a number of ''Transformers'' fan sites, including TFWiki, are treated to [[Transformers 5 set visit|a set visit]].
*September 4, 2016 — [[Stanley Tucci]] is back as [[Joshua Joyce]] (He later turned out to be playing Merlin, but it's unclear from the article where the confusion originated).<ref>[http://variety.com/2016/film/global/stanley-tucci-to-reprise-transformers-role-in-the-last-knight-1201852108/ Stanley Tucci to Reprise 'Transformers' Role in 'The Last Knight'] on Variety</ref>
[[File:TLK Izabella trailer speech.jpg|thumb|right|250px|True fact: Isabela had to beat Megatron in an arm wrestling contest to get this part.]]
*September 24, 2016 — Location shooting at Blenheim Palace in England proved controversial as [[Winston Churchill]]'s birthplace became draped in Nazi banners. Bay told BBC News that veterans shouldn't be too upset as Churchill is a "big hero" in the film.<ref>[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-37453284 Transformers' Blenheim Palace 'Nazi' scenes defended] from the BBC</ref>
*October 14, 2016 — Bay announces via Facebook that [[John Turturro]] will be back as [[Seymour Simmons]] & [[John Goodman]] back to voice [[Hound (Movie)|Hound]]<ref>[https://www.facebook.com/transformersmovie/videos/1174984035870375/ Michael Bay video on Facebook]</ref>
*December 5, 2016 — The [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyVKK87hYYM teaser trailer] is released.
*February 3, 2017 — The [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npaVgxxtKxQ "Big Game Spot"] is released on YouTube.
*March 12, 2017 — The [https://twitter.com/transformers/status/840751026693062656 Kid's Choice Award Clip] is revealed.
*March 17, 2017 — The [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVYSyiL4iis "Izzy Stays and Fights" preview], a family-aimed trailer attached to ''{{w|Beauty and the Beast (2017 film)|Beauty and the Beast}}'', is released.
*March 22, 2017 — Eight [http://ew.com/movies/2017/03/22/transformers-last-knight-motion-posters/ "motion posters"] for the film's robot cast are released.
*April 12, 2017 — Another [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FIH1TeIS9Q trailer] is released.
*April 24, 2017 — As part of the "[[Reveal Your Shield]]" promotion, Hasbro releases [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWXj0JSZQjE a video] featuring [[Peter Cullen]] and [[Frank Welker]] credited as the voices of Optimus and Megatron.
*May 5, 2017 — Variety reports that the film's release is being moved forward two days to June 21.<ref name="datemove">[http://variety.com/2017/film/news/mark-wahlberg-transformers-the-last-knight-1202410380/ 'Transformers: The Last Knight' Moves Forward Two Days]</ref>
*May 7, 2017 — The [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7toS4s_79ZA "Optimus Prime Dialog Coach" teaser] is released.
*May 9, 2017 — The [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVZhsL3vV8M "Secret Past" TV spot] is released.
*May 15, 2017 — A preview of an Empire Magazine feature on the film includes the news that [[Jim Carter]] has been cast as Cogman.<ref>[http://www.empireonline.com/movies/transformers-last-knight/exclusive-explosive-new-look-bumblebee-transformers-last-knight/ Exclusive, Explosive New Look At Bumblebee In Transformers: The Last Knight] on Empire Online</ref>
*May 17, 2017 — The [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue7cNNfjCyc International Trailer] is released.
{{--}}

==Notes==
*Tyrese Gibson was intended to return as [[Robert Epps]], but the logistics of filming in Europe resulted in him being unable to take part.<ref>[http://www.ok.co.uk/celebrity-news/1104536/tyrese-gibson-transformers-the-last-knight-robert-epps-josh-duhamel-mark-wahlberg-michael-bay Tyrese Gibson exclusively admits he was 'p****d' to miss out on filming Transformers: The Last Knight alongside original co-star Josh Josh Duhamel] on OK! Online</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''''Transformers Saigo no Kishiō''''' (トランスフォーマー最後の騎士王, "Transformers: The Last Knight King")
*''Finnish:'' '''''Transformers: Viimeinen Ritari''''' ("Transformers: The Last Knight")
*''Italian:'' '''''Transformers - L'ultimo cavaliere''''' ("Transformers: The Last Knight")
*''Korean:'' '''''Teulaenseupomeo: Choehuui Gisa''''' (트랜스포머: 최후의 기사, "Transformers: The Last Knight")
*''Mandarin:'' '''''Biànxíng Jīngāng 5: Zuìhòu de Qíshì''''' (Taiwan, 變形金剛5：最後的騎士, "Transformers 5: The Last Knight"), '''''Biànxíng Jīngāng 5: Zuìhòu de Qíshì''''' (China, 变形金刚5：最后的骑士, "Transformers 5: The Last Knight")
*''Portuguese:'' '''''Transformers: O Último Cavaleiro''''' (Brazil, "Transformers: The Last Knight"), '''''Transformers 5''''' (Portugal)
*''Russian:'' '''''Transformery: Posledniy rytsar' ''''' (Трансформеры: Последний рыцарь, "Transformers: The Last Knight")
*''Spanish:'' '''''Transformers: El último caballero''''' ("Transformers: The Last Knight")
*''Ukrainian:'' '''''Трансформери - Останній лицар''''' ("Transformers: The Last Knight")

==External links==
* [http://www.transformersmovie.com/ Transformersmovie.com]
* [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3371366/?ref_=nv_sr_1 ''The Last Knight'' at IMDB.com]
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers:_The_Last_Knight ''The Last Knight'' film on Wikipedia]
* [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/transformers_the_last_knight/ ''The Last Knight'' on RottenTomatoes.com]

==References==
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Voice Actor Drama

2017-06-13T13:06:19Z

MissRatbat: Waspinator is described in so many words as a Maximal.

{{episode
|otherseries=[[Transformers: Universe (comic)|''Transformers: Universe'']]
|prev=Homecoming (Universe)
|next=Revelations Part 2
|otherseries2=Script reading
|prev2=OTFCC Live-Action Drama
|next2=Intimidation Game
|title="Voice Actor Drama"
|image=Otfcc2004scriptreading.jpg
|caption=And somewhere in the world, a Unicron exists.
|written by=[[Simon Furman]]
|directed by=
|original presentation=[[July 31]], [[2004]]
|continuity=}}

'''Rhinox built a machine to create a pile of new characters!'''

==Synopsis==
[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] has built a device to deflect [[Unicron]]'s attempts to pull victims from other universes. The [[Autobot]]s deflect two such attempts, but are only partially successful: instead of being transported to Unicron, the victims end up on a frozen planetoid.

A bickering [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]], [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]], and [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] are sent to help the victims, but Unicron sends [[Reptilion]], [[Sunstorm (Universe)|Sunstorm]], [[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]], and [[Perceptor (Armada)|Perceptor]] after them as well.

As a side effect of Rhinox's device, a vortex opens in space and sucks in Autobot stellar freighter ''[[OTFCC (ship)|OTFCC]]'', piloted by [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]], an endlessly moaning [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]], from the past. The ''OTFCC'' picks up the Maximals' distress signal in the nick of time: as Sunstorm attacks the [[Maximal]] ship, they're saved by being transported to the [[Autobot]] shuttle.

After shooting down Sunstorm, the Autobots and Maximals travel to the planetoid, where they both save the victims from the [[Decepticon]]s and Bumblebee and Cosmos from Reptilion's explanation of the current Transformer [[canon]]. Two groups of Autobots have been stranded there, each from a different parallel universe: [[Landfill (RID)|Landfill]], [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]], and [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]], from [[Viron 903.0 Beta|a Viron timeline]]; and [[Optimus Prime (RID)#Spy Changer continuity|Optimus Prime]], [[Ultra Magnus (RID)#OTFCC Voice Actor Drama|Ultra Magnus]], ''another'' [[Prowl (RID)#Spy Changer continuity|Prowl]], and [[Ironhide (RID)|Ironhide]], hailing from [[Viron 1103.12 Gamma|a universe]] both unknown and undersized.

The various groups fight off the Decepticons, and the Autobot ship is sent back to its own time.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobot]]s/[[Maximal]]s|c1=
*[[Tracks (G1)#3H comics|Tracks]] (1)
*[[Cosmos (G1)#3H comics|Cosmos]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)#3H comics|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Rattrap (BW)#3H comics|Rattrap]] (4)
*[[Silverbolt (BW)#3H comics|Silverbolt]] (5)
*[[Waspinator (BW)#3H comics|Waspinator]] (6)
*[[Side Burn (RID)#Universe comic|Side Burn]] (10)
*[[Prowl (RID)#Universe comic|Prowl]] (12)
*[[Optimus Prime (RID)#Spy Changer continuity|Optimus Prime]] (13)
*[[Prowl (RID)#Spy Changer continuity|Prowl]] (14)
*[[Landfill (RID)|Landfill]] (15)
*[[Ultra Magnus (RID)#OTFCC Voice Actor Drama|Ultra Magnus]] (16)
*[[Ironhide (RID)#OTFCC Voice Actor Drama|Ironhide]] (17)

|h2=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]/[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
*[[Sunstorm (Universe)#3H comics|Sunstorm]] (7)
*[[Reptilion#3H comics|Reptilion]] (8)
*[[Ruination (RID)#3H comics|Ruination]] (9)

|h3=[[Mini-Con]]s|c3=
*[[Perceptor (Armada)#3H comics|Perceptor]] (11)
}}

==Quotes==
"Anything could happen between here and Earth! [silence] ''Anything'' could happen between here and Earth! [music starts] ''Thank you'' Vince."
:—'''Bumblebee'''

[actors do "shaken spaceship" motions] 
"What's happeniiiiing?!" 
"It's bad actiiiiing!"
:—'''Tracks''' and '''Bumblebee'''

"Onboard, three intrepid Maximal warriors!" 
"Ohhh, Waspinator wanna go home ''now''."
:—'''The narrator''' contradicted by '''Waspinator'''

"That's Sunstorm or at least ''a'' Sunstorm. Looks like Unicron's been recruiting again!" 
"Eh, yeah, that or [[Walmart]]'s released another bunch a' exclusives."
:—'''Silverbolt''' and '''Rattrap'''

"Another character! Thank god!"
:—'''Scott McNeil''' glad to see McConnohie has joined after five minutes of voicing the whole play himself

'''Reptilion:'''"I ask you, can it get any worse?" 
'''Bumblebee:'''"Hey, you! Decepticon! Step away from that crevasse!" 
'''Reptilion's actor:''' [looks down, confused, at stage]

"Why does he keep doing that, announcing his attacks?"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' on RID Prowl

'''Bumblebee:''' "[[Bob Budiansky|Budiansky]] would've never done this to us."

==Notes==
===Production===
*'''The cast:'''
** [[Michelle Carolus]]: [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]]
** [[Simon Furman]]: [[Narrator]]
** [[Dan Gilvezan]]: [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]
** [[Michael McConnohie]]: [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]], [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]]
** [[Scott McNeil]]: [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]], [[Silverbolt (BW)|Silverbolt]], [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]
** [[Clive Ramroop|Clive "Outtsyder" Ramroop]]: [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]] (Spy Changer), [[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]]
** [[Daniel Ross]]: [[Reptilion]], [[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]] (non-Spy Changer)

*Music and sound effects were done by [[Vince DiCola]]. Some tracks were from a new CD he'd produced, which could be bought at the convention.
* This live-action script reading took place Saturday night at [[OTFCC 2004]].

===Continuity===
* The ''OTFCC'' crew come from "the Generation 1 era" but which one isn't said. Tracks is complaining that if you're not a -master or Pretender, you're a "second class citizen".
* A 1984/5 Autobot complaining about the recent gimmicks was previously done by Furman in "[[Starting Over!]]".
* Silverbolt has met Sunstorms before but doesn't recognise this one immediately. Which makes sense as there's a [[Sunstorm (G1)|at least one other Sunstorm]] involved in the Universe War!
* This is Reptilion's first mission in charge.
* Despite its tongue-in-cheek nature, the story is still part of the ''Universe'' storyline; in fact, chronologically, for years it was the last finished portion of the story, as 3H lost the Transformers license before the last issues of the ''Universe'' comic could be completed. The end of the Universe conflict would later be seen in the pages of "[[Revelations Part 2]]", a ''Cybertron''-themed comic in the Collectors' Club Magazine.

===Other trivia===
* As usual with such convention performances, the characters frequently break the fourth wall. For example, Reptilion plugs ''[[Transformers: The Ultimate Guide|The Ultimate Guide]]'' in dialogue, while Rattrap plugs ''Transformers Universe'' #½, which was never actually released. Oops.
* Bumblebee jokes that some day, there'll be "Transformers who [[Action Master|don't even transform!]]"
* In a sneaky nod to [[BotCon#BotCon history|the convention]]'s split from [[3H Productions]], Tracks announces he's from ship ''3H'' and then immediately corrects it to ''OTFCC''.
* Reptilion mocks the Generation 1 Autobots with how the current Transformers continuity is too complicated for them to understand now. "And don't get me started on the Japanese variations!"
* Side Burn and Prowl have their 2003 ''Universe'' toy colors. Landfill is based on the yellow redeco released under ''Robots in Disguise''.
* Prime, Magnus, the other Prowl, and Ironhide are based on their ''Universe'' [[Spy Changer]] incarnations.
* ''Robots in Disguise'' Prowl refers to Carolus's Prime as "he". "[[Ask Vector Prime]]" would later [[retcon]] that this Prime is definitely female.
* Sunstorm and Perceptor are referred to by other characters, but have no dialogue. Ironhide, Landfill, and Ultra Magnus appear only in the art for the story, and are not specifically mentioned anywhere in the script.
* Waspinator likes "[[Buster Witwicky and the Car Wash of Doom]]". (So the others shot him)

==External link==
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcuAIyu-9bU Voice Actor Drama on YouTube]

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[[Category:Universe (2003)]]

Manganese Mountains

2017-06-01T03:15:30Z

MissRatbat: Category

[[File:Manganese Mountains - HM 1.jpg|thumb|200 px|The sky is falling! The sky is falling!]]
The '''Manganese Mountains''' is a remote mountain range somewhere on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]].

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
[[Fortress Maximus (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Fortress Maximus]] and his troops operated out of a cave gouged into the Manganese Mountains until they got sick of the war and left for [[Nebulos]]. {{storylink|Ring of Hate!}} Some time later, [[Scorponok (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Scorponok]]'s forces raided the abandoned base and found out where the [[Autobot]]s had gone to. {{storylink|Broken Glass!}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
Long ago when the war broke out, the starship ''[[Peaceful Resolution]]'', crewed by [[neutral]]s such as [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]], was shot down over the Manganese Mountains. {{storylink|Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}} [[Ironfist (G1)|Ironfist]]'s first campaign was in the Manganese Mountains, and it was there that he fashioned [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s [[Ion blaster|laser rifle]], though unfortunately Prime mistook Ironfist for his chief rival, [[Skyfall (G1)|Skyfall]]. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 4|Last Stand of the Wreckers #4}} During the 6th [[Units of time|cycle]] 351, [[Scorponok (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Scorponok]] battled an Autobot unit including [[Chromedome (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Chromedome]], [[Rewind (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rewind]], and [[Shimmerstick]] in the Manganese Mountains. {{storylink|The Custom-Made Now - An Elegant Chaos Prologue|The Custom-Made Now}}

When [[Vector Sigma]] reset Cybertron to a primordial state, the mountains were corroded away. {{storylink|Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}}

===''Shattered Glass''===
When the Autobots destroyed [[Tyrest University]], the three [[Predacon (SG)|Predacons]] went into hiding in the Manganese Mountains and started honing their hunting skills. The mountains soon became known for being haunted by vicious killers. {{storylink|Razorclaw (SG)|BotCon 2008 Razorclaw profile card}}

===''Animated'' cartoon===
[[Highbrow (Animated)|Highbrow]] went to a secret meeting with [[Shockwave (Animated)|Longarm]], where he was then summarily dispatched. {{storylink|Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|The AllSpark Almanac II}}

===2015 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon===
The Manganese Mountains were a Cybertronian vacation destination suggested by the [[Bee Team (RID)|Bee Team]]. {{storylink|Ghosts and Impostors}}

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[[Category:Generation 1 locations]]
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[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2015) locations]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass locations]]

Talk:Sandstorm (G2)

2017-05-05T14:01:13Z

MissRatbat:

Other than the reasonable assumption about the Seeker mold, do we know for sure they'd have been a Decepticon? (Seekers were generally Decepticons, but circa G2, the only Sandstorm to date had been an Autobot.) --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 22:20, 4 May 2017 (EDT)
:.....So was Smokescreen? [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 22:26, 4 May 2017 (EDT)
::And the AVP fiction makes the question pretty irrelevant now. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 22:31, 4 May 2017 (EDT)
:::It says "Decepticon jet" on the ''Vault'' art too. --[[User:Abates|abates]] ([[User talk:Abates|talk]]) 23:13, 4 May 2017 (EDT)
::::All of which are good and valid points. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 10:01, 5 May 2017 (EDT)

Talk:Sandstorm (G2)

2017-05-05T02:20:50Z

MissRatbat: Faction

Talk:Beast Era

2016-10-15T08:47:02Z

MissRatbat: Beast Wars when?

== Beast Wars in the 30th century ==

Here's a date that's completely at odds with everything else, but I want someone to check my logic. 
1) In ''[[Terminus (issue)|Terminus]]'', [[Shokaract]] said [[Windrazor (BW)|Windrazor]] reeked of 32nd century technology. Therefore, Windrazor and Shokaract had traveled back in time from the 32nd century. 
2) In ''[[Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Schism]]'', Leonicus mentioned the [[Chronarchitect]]'s warning came 200 years earlier, and that Shokaract had risen to power during that time. Thus, the Shokaract/Covenant "present" here was two centuries after the warning. 
3) In ''[[Herald, Covenant, Schism, Paradox|Covenant]]'', the Chronarchitect gave his warning. As the Covenant prepared to respond, they essentially described the Beast Era present as THE present from their perspective: post-war Cybertron, a somewhat shaky Maximal/Predacon alliance, a current [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] trouble-maker...sounds like just before the ''[[Theft of the Golden Disk]]''. 

So if the Beast Era present is 200 years before the Reign of Shokaract and ''Schism''...then the Axalon and Darksyde departed from the 30th century, yes? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 22:55, 27 July 2010 (EDT)

I've never thought of Beast Wars as being nailed to three hundred years from 'now'. If the Great War goes on for another million years, someone living three centuries after that would still call it 300 years ago. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 04:47, 15 October 2016 (EDT)

== ''Beast Wars: Uprising'' ==

How should we incorporate the now-formally portrayed ''[[Beast Wars: Uprising]]'' franchise/universe into this page?[[User:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47]] ([[User talk:S.H.I.E.L.D. Agent 47|talk]]) 19:50, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Cancer (G1)

2016-10-11T13:40:02Z

MissRatbat: He's a turncoat, right?

Well, you name your kid Cancer, you gotta expect he'll grow up with some issues... --[[User:Nemesis Primal|Nemesis Primal]] 01:42, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

== Crab vs Cobra ==

Our anon editor there had a point -- Cancer/Squeezeplay DOES look a lot like a cobra, and... not so much like a crab at all, really. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:46, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:Which raises the question of why he's named [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer_(astrology) Cancer] who was, of course, a crab (not that we should ever expect Japanese names to make much sense, of course). Either way, he looks like a generic, maybe kinda crab-ish monster wearing a snake like a headdress. The English name almost makes even less sense - he has a snake head, but he's not going be doing much squeezing with his body, unless its a hug, and he has no crab claws. That and "Squeezeplay" sounds like a weird fetish, but you can't win [[Drill Nuts|'em all]].--[[Special:Contributions/72.228.84.134|72.228.84.134]] 21:56, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::Eh, I took more umbrage at his tone and removing a decent caption. Whatever animal is most similar to the horrible monster that Cancer turns into is up to you guys. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:59, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

Given his time as an Autobot, should he also have their crest at the top of the page?--[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 09:40, 11 October 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Stronger, Faster

2016-10-07T03:00:23Z

MissRatbat: Ratchet and...a war crime?

Name revealed by Teletoon's site, "Stronger, Faster" http://www.teletoon.com/teletoon3/teletoon.php?language=En&func=php|templates/video.php|0-transformersPrime-1132-rtmpe-u-manlist-eps-en
:Looks legit. Any objections? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 18:11, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
::Last week's is labeled "TMI", so yeah, I'd say this is good too. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:18, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

I'd like to make a motion that, once images are posted, at least one has a Daft Punk reference in the caption. --[[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 23:41, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
:Seconded. Speaking as someone who's been unnerved that not a single -master page has had "Human After All" for a caption. [[Special:Contributions/24.11.110.62|24.11.110.62]] 02:27, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
:Maybe, but I think first and foremost Action Master references would be in order. "Stronger, faster, more alive!" --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 03:02, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Is the title a reference to the $6 million man? It sounds like the intro speech-thing (bear in mind I've never seen that show, but I've heard the quote many times). Oh, and the caption for when Ratchet SynthEns himself needs to be "don't do drugs" or "steroids are bad for you." - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 09:53, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

Point of enquiry: What time did this air in canada? Or if the next episode will (has) air(ed). --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 21:21, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:Teletoon airs episodes at noon CA Eastern on Sundays. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:43, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Has it aired yet? --[[Special:Contributions/82.39.157.220|82.39.157.220]] 13:13, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

Is it worth mentioning that the Synthetic Energon looks a bit like JaAm? --[[User:Darth_Shadow_91|Darth Shadow]]

Whats jaAm?

For the second picture would referencing Simmons' monologue in ROTF work?--[[User:NotSteve|NotSteve]] 11:11, 18 September 2011 (EDT) 9-18-11

A couple of pages on second-season episodes call out the Autobots indulging in war crimes, or at least, war crimes by Earth standards. Would Ratchet torturing an enemy non-combatant here qualify? (Though I must caveat that Optimus does give him a bit of a telling-off, and that I'm not currently an expert on war crimes.) --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 23:00, 6 October 2016 (EDT)

Talk:Humanization

2016-08-31T15:03:43Z

MissRatbat: Eyelids

===Eating===
: In some fictional depictions, movie megatron devours Sparks. Could this be counted as eating?--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:24, 12 May 2009 (EDT)
:: I wouldn't think so. From what I can tell of the descriptions of Megatron eating, he does it in a very animalistic way. We humans have a tendency not to jump on what we want to eat and going in head first in the chest cavity... We usually prefer to use utensils, and eat sitting down at a diner table. It's more like animalizing, if anything, to make him look more vicious and predator-like. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 12:04, 12 May 2009 (EDT)

==Do not put spoilers==
Just because Bumblebee 'crying' was seen in the Revenge of the Fallen trailer doesn't mean you have the right to spoil the movie now.[[Special:Contributions/65.173.90.94|65.173.90.94]] 17:14, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

==Devastator==
I don't really think his balls are a form of "humanizing." He is more like a wild beast, so it would be more like "animalizing." Animals have balls, too. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:10, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

:Really? I was not aware that animals do not engage in the following activities: Sweating, Coughing, Breathing, Spitting, Crying, Eating, Flatulence, Urination, Sleeping, Aging, Sexuality
:
:Nor was I aware that no animals possess: Teeth, tongues, eyeballs, eyelashes, breasts, lips, or hips.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:02, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

::Well sure, but most cases the Transformer is acting human, and those things are there to enhance their human-ness. Devastator lumbers around on all fours, growling and roaring, and without enough sense of modesty to cover his wrecking balls. Beastly. Not "humanizing." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:12, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

:::The balls are mentioned is because it simply ..."Hey, Devastator gets a questionable bodyparts". --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:41, 23 July 2009 (EDT)

== Smelling ==

Transformers can hear things and see things. Seeing and hearing isn't humanization, why is smelling. Smelling is just another sense. I would think a sentient robot would be able to smell things. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 07:00, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
:What purpose would sense of smell serve for a Transformer? It's admittedly sort of weird to assume that a race of robots would communicate mainly by talking (how about wireless radio communication or something?), but it's easily acceptable, if only for storyline purposes, and the benefits of sight are obvious, but why would a robot, who comes from a <s>completely</s> ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|mainly]]'' technological planet ever need to smell anything? -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 07:14, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
::Plenty of reasons. Smell can communicate a lot of things even if you can't immediately see or hear anything. It's basically a form of chemical detection, which I think even robots would find useful. --[[User:Jeysie|Jeysie]] 07:24, 20 September 2009 (EDT)
:::Well, if TFs can taste, they probably need smell, too. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 09:39, 20 September 2009 (EDT)

== Megatron coughing ==

Which specific episodes of ''Beast Wars'' have Megatron coughing? That bit needs some clarification. (Would do it myself, but I don't know that much about the Beast era.) --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 15:47, 15 September 2010 (EDT)

==Old age==
"In an issue of the Marvel UK G1 comics, Kup's systems are going to shut down because he is too old." - which issue is this a reference to? In "[[Kup's Story!]]" he has a psychological condition ([[combat fatigue]]) but it's not necessarily because of his age is it? And his systems aren't shutting down anyway...unless there's another issue that addresses this? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:17, 23 October 2010 (EDT)

==Breathing==
There was actually a deuterocanonical discussion of the BW TFs breathing on ATT back in the day, I think. Bob or Larry one gave the "it helps ventilate" explanation summarized as "Put some tape over the fan on your computer and see what happens." In trying to find it, I did come across a statement from Larry that the BW cast become "fully organic" in beast mode, so they can be strangled, etc. -hx at work [[Special:Contributions/168.30.245.144|168.30.245.144]] 12:18, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

== Plaster ==

[[Image:Blacker wounded.jpg|thumb|right|200px|]]

I think this image can be qualified as a sort of humanization, but I'm not sure where it should be placed. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 08:29, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

{{--}}

== Facial hair ==

Seeing as there is an article [[Facial hair|dedicated to face fungus]], is the very truncated list of who has face fuzz necessary? [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 04:52, 22 January 2012 (EST)

==Eyelids==

I wouldn't find it hard to conclude that Transformers have eyelids for one of the same reasons humans do - to protect their optics from damage to a degree. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 11:03, 31 August 2016 (EDT)

Transformers: Earth Wars

2016-03-14T01:19:12Z

MissRatbat: Characters and how they appear.

'''''Transformers: Earth Wars''''' is an upcoming mobile game by [[Space Ape Games]]/[[Backflip Studios]] and story written by [[Simon Furman]], which means plenty of [[Furmanisms]]. The aim of the game is to assemble an army and build a fortress, then try to defend your base while destroying the enemy's. Essentially, Transformers meets ''Clash of Clans'', without Hog Riders.
The setting is [[Generation 1]].

==Plot==
The Autobots and Decepticons return to Earth to battle over resources. Furman promises that while it "appears to be about the same old stuff" initially, "as we progress through the game, more is revealed about Megatron’s master plan and what he’s on Earth looking for."<ref>[http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/gaming/2016/02/10/transformers-land-mobile-earth-wars/80167164/ USA Today: "'Transformers' land on mobile in 'Earth Wars'"]</ref>

{{--}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]
*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]]
*[[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]]
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]]
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]]
*[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]]
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]]
*[[Steeljaw (G1)|Steeljaw]]
*[[Ramhorn (G1)|Ramhorn]]
*[[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]
*[[Eject (G1)|Eject]]
*[[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]

|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]
*[[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]]
*[[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]]
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]]
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]]
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]]
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]]
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Skrapnel]]
*[[Hook (G1)|Hook]]
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]

|c3=
*[[Melody Keen]]
*[[Dimitri Rostov]]
}}

==Notes==
Character models are mostly based on each character's most-recent toy release. In many cases, this means [[Transformers: Generations#Combiner_Wars|Combiner Wars]], though there are a few appearances from [[Transformers: Generations#Titans Return (2016)|Titans Return]], [[Movie (toyline)|Movie]]-universe namesakes and 'original' [[Generation 1]].

==External Links==
* [http://www.transformersearthwars.com/ Official website]

[[Category:Generation 1 video games]]

Talk:The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds

2016-03-10T03:19:22Z

MissRatbat: Lists like we used to do with crew.

Is it worth it to have a list of known mutineers and 'fan club members'? --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 22:19, 9 March 2016 (EST)

Talk:Energon Z

2015-08-24T00:33:58Z

MissRatbat: Pronunciation

How do they pronounce the 'Z' in the ''anime''?--[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 20:33, 23 August 2015 (EDT)

Talk:The War to End All Wars, Part 1

2015-08-16T14:17:21Z

MissRatbat: Rapido

Is that stuff about Rapido really errors? Both seem like valid stylistic choices to me. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 10:17, 16 August 2015 (EDT)

D.0.C.

2015-06-18T09:32:39Z

MissRatbat:

{{disambig3|Doc}}
:''D.O.C. is an [[Autobot]] drone from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:RID29 D.O.C.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
'''D.O.C.''' is a small hovering drone created by [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. He communicates by various beeps which only Jetfire (and perhaps [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]]) seems to understand. He is mostly seen accompanying Jetfire and carrying out his master's orders.

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
D.O.C. was on board the [[Ark-7]] for its journey to [[Earth]] following [[Dark Cybertron|Shockwave's attempt to end the Universe]]. As [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s team clashed with [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] on the planet, D.O.C. found Jetfire was busy looking for a way to fight some [[human]]-built micro-bots. As the pair was preparing to eradicate the threat, they found the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] had already taken care of the problem. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 2: Detonation Boulevard}} As Optimus's team returned to the ship, Jetfire and D.O.C. greeted them with the news that they'd tracked the source of the humans' "mind bomb" to the [[Marshall Islands]]. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 3: The Mind Bomb}} While Jazz infiltrated the [[Earth Defense Command|EDC]]'s Marshall Island base, D.O.C. and Jetfire joined the other Autobots in storming the beach {{storylink|Earthfall Part 4: Full Fathom Five}} They found themselves facing a Decepticon warship, causing D.O.C. to warn that they weren't going to be able to hold it off for long. Then the final phases of [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]]'s plan came into play, the warship came crashing down, and the Autobots successfully made off with [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]]. {{storylink|Earthfall Chapter 5: I Dream of Wires}}

Jetfire, [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and D.O.C. rushed to the shuttlebay when the alarm was triggered, only to find it was just Optimus and Alpha Trion leaving for a jaunt in the [[Skyroller]]. {{storylink|The Crucible}} Once they'd returned, Jetfire and D.O.C. continued to care for Trion, noting with disapproval that the sudden trip hadn't exactly improved his condition. {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part One: Signals, Calls, and Marches|Signals, Calls, and Marches}}

[[Category:Generation 1 drones]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 characters]]

D.0.C.

2015-06-18T09:32:14Z

MissRatbat: Per recent issue. Enough for a three-word 'perhaps', at least.

{{disambig3|Doc}}
:''D.O.C. is an [[Autobot]] drone from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''
[[File:RID29 D.O.C.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
'''D.O.C.''' is a small hovering drone created by [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]]. He communicates by various beeps which only Jetfire (and perhaps [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] seems to understand. He is mostly seen accompanying Jetfire and carrying out his master's orders.

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
D.O.C. was on board the [[Ark-7]] for its journey to [[Earth]] following [[Dark Cybertron|Shockwave's attempt to end the Universe]]. As [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]]'s team clashed with [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] on the planet, D.O.C. found Jetfire was busy looking for a way to fight some [[human]]-built micro-bots. As the pair was preparing to eradicate the threat, they found the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] had already taken care of the problem. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 2: Detonation Boulevard}} As Optimus's team returned to the ship, Jetfire and D.O.C. greeted them with the news that they'd tracked the source of the humans' "mind bomb" to the [[Marshall Islands]]. {{storylink|Earthfall Part 3: The Mind Bomb}} While Jazz infiltrated the [[Earth Defense Command|EDC]]'s Marshall Island base, D.O.C. and Jetfire joined the other Autobots in storming the beach {{storylink|Earthfall Part 4: Full Fathom Five}} They found themselves facing a Decepticon warship, causing D.O.C. to warn that they weren't going to be able to hold it off for long. Then the final phases of [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]]'s plan came into play, the warship came crashing down, and the Autobots successfully made off with [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]]. {{storylink|Earthfall Chapter 5: I Dream of Wires}}

Jetfire, [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and D.O.C. rushed to the shuttlebay when the alarm was triggered, only to find it was just Optimus and Alpha Trion leaving for a jaunt in the [[Skyroller]]. {{storylink|The Crucible}} Once they'd returned, Jetfire and D.O.C. continued to care for Trion, noting with disapproval that the sudden trip hadn't exactly improved his condition. {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part One: Signals, Calls, and Marches|Signals, Calls, and Marches}}

[[Category:Generation 1 drones]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 characters]]

Proxima (G1)

2015-05-28T03:37:26Z

MissRatbat:

:''Proxima is a [[Caminus|Camien]] from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Proxima-IDW.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

'''Proxima''' is exceptionally smart and is great at multi-tasking! In addition to her visor, she has three additional eyes, two of which can move around.

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
Proxima was celebrating [[Thunderclash]]'s pre-wake party with various members of the [[Lost Light]]'s and [[Vis Vitalis]]'s crews.
She is in a relationship with [[Acceleron]].{{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}}

==Notes==
* Alex Milne wanted Proxima to be equal to or greater than Perceptor in terms of being amazingly smart.

==External links==
* [http://markerguru001.tumblr.com/post/118895753987/so-here-are-some-of-the-characters-ive-been Design and commentary on Alex Milne's Tumblr]

[[Category: Caminus]]
[[Category: Comic-only Transformers]]
[[Category: Female Transformers]]
[[Category: Scientists]]
[[Category: IDW Generation 1 Transformers]]

Proxima (G1)

2015-05-28T03:36:26Z

MissRatbat: The other half.

:''Proxima is a [[Caminus|Camien]] from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Proxima-IDW.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]

'''Proxima''' is exceptionally smart and is great at multi-tasking! In addition to her visor, she has three additional eyes, two of which can move around.

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
Proxima was celebrating [[Thunderclash]]'s pre-wake party with various members of the [[Lost Light]]'s and [[Vis Vitalis]]'s crews.
She was in a relationship with [[Acceleron]].{{storylink|The Sensuous Frame}}

==Notes==
* Alex Milne wanted Proxima to be equal to or greater than Perceptor in terms of being amazingly smart.

==External links==
* [http://markerguru001.tumblr.com/post/118895753987/so-here-are-some-of-the-characters-ive-been Design and commentary on Alex Milne's Tumblr]

[[Category: Caminus]]
[[Category: Comic-only Transformers]]
[[Category: Female Transformers]]
[[Category: Scientists]]
[[Category: IDW Generation 1 Transformers]]

Talk:2005 IDW continuity

2015-05-24T09:47:29Z

MissRatbat: Generation One-and-a-bit.

== Avengers crossover? ==

It's my understanding that while this is portrayed at a specific point in both New Avengers and IDW's Transformers, it's actually in continuity for neither. So perhaps this needs to be a special note rather than sandwiched between Infiltration and Escalation.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 17:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: I know nothing about it aside from what I've been told here and there, which was just "it goes between Infiltration and Escalation." Is this in an official source somewhere? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:52, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: It's definitely part of IDW continuity, but not Marvel continuity. Spotlight: Ramjet spins off from one of its threads. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
: I think that when it comes to this issue, we might be best to wait for Spotlight: Ramjet and see if it addresses the continuity wierdness at all. - Chris McFeely (not signed in)

== Alternate Modes list ==
Hot Rod should be added to this list, if anybody knows what he's supposed to be. And Blitzwing and Megatron. Astrotrain, Hardhead and Nightbeat too, I suppose, though we haven't seen them transform. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 19:36, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:Oh, easily. I was just lifting it from Infiltration's page, as it doesn't belong there.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 19:51, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
::Megatron's entry there seems to imply that he's still a Walther P38. I don't think that's true. If I knew what model gun he is now, I'd've changed it myself. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:24, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Megatron's own character entry identifies his altmode as a P99:

Megatron stayed to guide the second stage of the Decepticons' plans, wishing to try out his new Earth-inspired handgun (Walther P99) altmode. {{storylink|The Transformers: Escalation|Escalation}}

:::[[:Image:Massdisplacement.jpg|This image]] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_P99 some real-life references] can support this assertation, as best as I can make out the comic scan. The details are difficult to be certain of in the final iteration of Megs in that scan, though, and many pistols have similar details. It would have to be a pretty exact match, I think, to certainly say it's any particular gun. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 22:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

== New evidence that IDW is not G1 ==

[http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=143991#143991 DonFig]: "...and the thing is, I don't consider IDW's take as 'G1'. the stories are not a continuation of the ones from the 80's cartoon or the Marvel stuff. they didn't crash on earth 4 millions years ago and get lodged in a volcano, it doesn't even fit into Beast wars.

sure it's got the same names and elements from G1, but that can also be said with every other series that came and went since G1.

Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, the Movie.. All have elements of G1 in them, all have an Optimus who's a red truck and there's a Yellow car that younger people can relate to. references to Matrixes, Unicrons..etc, but they're not G1." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:46, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
:That's not "evidence," that's an opinion, and not one that is related to the wiki's classification system. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 21:55, 24 July 2009 (EDT)
::Agreed. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 02:29, 27 July 2009 (EDT)
:::The redesigns for the ongoing would also indicate to me that it isn't G1. Also, it may be a small point, but the differing origin for characters and gimmicks—that don't match G1 bios—would seem to indicate that it isn't G1. Scourge, Goldbug, Micromasters, Dropshot. Even Nightbeat never being a headmaster. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:33, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::The original cartoon didn't match the G1 bios! Their Shockwave wasn't a calculating betrayer, their Sludge wasn't born on Cybertron, their Galvatron wasn't the City Commander. And it had differing origins from other continuities. Were the Dinobots born on Earth or Cybertron? Were the Constructions built on Earth or were they one of the other two origins also presented by the cartoon? Were the Aerialbots brought to life by Vector Sigma or the Creation Matrix? Was Blaster a brooding anti-hero or a hip-hop deejay? These things you bring up in favor of IDW not being part of G1 can be applied to every other aspect of what we all agree is G1. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:51, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:::::Are you proposing that the IDW comics are a franchise independent of the G1 franchise, Starfield? Because that's kind of silly. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:55, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::'Too Late' is never a reason to do, or not do, something. However, by just about any meaningful definition that I can think of, IDW is a 'G1' continuity. Virtually every Transformer is recognizably based on one of the original G1 toys. Their personalities draw broadly from these sources. The mechanics of the universe seem far more in keeping with prior G1 incarnations than other continuities. (By which I mean - no minicons or cyberkeys or energon weapons, no Magnus as the Autobot head-honcho, etc.) I just don't see it, at all. Even a little bit. Even the War for Cybertron, which is being touted as a continuity reboot, may prove to be 'G1,' so I'm gonna have to say I just don't see a case here. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 19:33, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::::::That is what "DonFig" is proposing. "I don't consider IDW's take as 'G1'.... sure it's got the same names and elements from G1, but that can also be said with every other series that came and went since G1." Maybe it is silly, but it can't be ''that'' far off. I was just posting some evidence in favor of it being a different franchise. For posterity? In case it splits more? It wouldn't entirely surprise me if it retroactively tied into a new "War for Cybertron" continuity. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:51, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:::::I admit the bio mismatch is a small thing. But I think the Micromasters take that to a new level. They aren't even Autobots and Decepticons. Are they even Cybertronian Transformers or were they from Gorlam Prime? I wasn't clear on that. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:51, 16 January 2010 (EST)
:As noted... that's an opinion, not evidence. And really, within context, he's talking about it not being a very SPECIFIC iteration of G1. Splitting it would be pointlessly stupid, especially since now we'd have what, an extra hundred-plus pages of characters with (IDW) now or someshit, when they're pretty much just G1 and are better served within the G1 character articles? Or are we going to split out all the guys who appeared in "Hearts of Steel" too? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:43, 16 January 2010 (EST)
::Ticking the 'not G1' box would still be a bold move, but I think it ''is'' worth mentioning that the IDWniverse doesn't mind bringing 'incarnations' of non-G1 characters into the mix. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 05:47, 24 May 2015 (EDT)

==Recommended reading order==
For a long time, I've been thinking that this wiki should provide the service to our readers of untangling all the IDW-G1 mini-series, maxi-series, and stand-alones into one "recommended reading order". I've given it quite a bit of thought, and I've come up with this: [[:User:Jackpot/Sandbox/IDW-G1 recommended reading order]] I explain my rationales on its [[:User talk:Jackpot/Sandbox/IDW-G1 recommended reading order|talk page]]. While I admit that some subjectivity had to come into play, I have the hope that the community can either accept the list as-is or come to its own alternate consensus. And, ultimately, I would love to see it incorporated into the navigation, maybe in a similar fashion to how we have parallel navs for the Marvel US and UK comics. The reader really ''should'' be able to just click-click-click through the entire IDW-G1 series in a simple and linear way the way they can with almost any other. We editors are as smart and obsessed as they come - IDW's capricious marketing schemes should be no obstacle for the likes of us. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 02:29, 27 July 2009 (EDT)

==-ations Cast==
Call me slow but, is the cast list for the Ations series the full cast? Because its made unclear. If not..is there a place I can see every Autobot and Decepticon that appears in said series? Because I'm curious to know who all shows up in them and to me the list seems too small to be ALL of the Transformers who show up in them. (Or at least the ones that have more than just minor appearances)--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
:No, there isn't really a list. It would be nice to have something. As the "-ation" story went on, there isn't really a core cast of main characters to list, so the list would be large. But we have large cast lists in other places. I agree an "-ations" cast list would be nice. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 19:07, 24 January 2010 (EST)

==Character-centric miniserieseses...es==
Since IDW seem to be launching more of these, would it be worthwhile agreeing a standard way in which they're listed on here? So far we have [[The Transformers: Bumblebee]], [[The Transformers: Ironhide]] and [[The Transformers: Drift]] listed. It looks a bit messy, but my attempt to remove the The from the (still red link) Ironhide one was undone. Yeah? YEAH - [[User:Guntrip|Guntrip]] 17:09, 16 March 2010 (EDT)

== Argle Bargle alt mode changes! ==

The intermittent lists of what altmodes folks have... these seem really odd on this page. The AHM section of them seems to be mostly there to be petty about AHM. It's not like we have a section about bellyaching that everyone's in WFC bodies in the RID ongoing. IDW's comics clearly aren't ones that keep bodies consistent for year after year like the original comics and cartoons. This should be expressed generally, instead of snarking about it in specifics when it gets our goat. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:45, 24 July 2012 (EDT)
:To be fair, it was there when AHM hit because it was the first time this was happening. Now that these spontaneous redesigns have become a more regular thing, yeah. We can do away with that section. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:15, 24 July 2012 (EDT)

Fire dimension

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MissRatbat: Let's not big him up *too* much.

:''The fire dimension is a location from the [[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

The '''fire dimension''' (also '''Megatron's dimension''') is a pocket dimension used as a base of operations by [[Megatron (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Megatron]] and the [[Decepticon]]s during the search for the [[Cyber Planet Key]]s. Quite literally a world of nothing but fire and rock, the precise nature of the dimension is unclear; it seems that after obtaining the power of [[Unicron]], Megatron may have actually used his newly acquired powers to create or access it.

The personal [[dimension gate]]s used by Megatron's elite troops appear to function by cutting through the fire dimension.<ref>In "[[Force of Habit]]" [[Brushguard]] implores Megatron to open a "dimensional portal," in order to rescue his stranded crew, using the term interchangeably with personal warp-gates.</ref> These gates could be forced closed if the flames surrounding them were extinguished.<ref>"[[Critical]]"</ref>

==Fiction==
===''Cybertron'' cartoon===
[[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] pursued Megatron and fought him to a standstill. Optimus was able to win back the [[Omega Lock]] and escape the fire dimension. As Megatron began to emerge in pursuit, the Omega Lock and [[Vector Prime]]'s sword were used to collapse the fire dimension around him. The dimension was created again by Megatron on [[Gigantion]] after his defeat at the hands of [[Metroplex (Cybertron)|Metroplex]]. [[Starscream (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s Spirit took refuge in the dimension after he was defeated and used it to appear before Galvatron.

{{locationstub}}

==Notes==
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Firespace''' (ファイヤースペース ''Faiyāsupēsu'')

==Footnotes==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
*[[Blasty Zone]]
*[[Infraspace]]
*[[Inner space]]
*[[Limbo]]
*[[Teleportation]]
*[[Void]]

[[Category:Dimensions]]
[[Category:Cybertron locations]]
[[Category:Decepticon bases]]

Talk:Alpha Quintesson

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MissRatbat: In case you still wondered after five and a half years about Alpha Q's name on TV.

Doug Dlin translated Takara's official Micron Trilogy timeline. Alpha Q's original home planet IS named Quintessa. Unicron attacked it in 2003 after escaping the Unicron Battles incident. Unicron ended up in an alternate dimension and devoured Quintessa's entire universe before turning on Planet Q. Unicron's damage due to Quintessa's explosion sent him back into 'this' universe, at the very edge of the universe, and he fell into stasis.

So yah, the dub was actually correct.

:Now, what I want to do here is break into a peal of insane laughter that conveys the phrase "I was fucking right all along, yo," but before that - where might this translation be at? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

==Of Graves and the Rising Therefrom==
So is Alpha Q a Quintesson or not? If he is, could someone who actually grasps UT please note that on both pages? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:23, 28 September 2010 (EDT)

Hey Guys, feel free to add more information if you see fit. I'm not completely familiar with the Energon comic version, but I listed what I knew. --Bodycount

Does Trevor Devall do all of Alpha-Q's voices? --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 08:39, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Wasn't his name Alpha-Q on Energon too? I seem to recall it was.--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 21:08, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
:In the show, I guess; ain't what it said on the box. "Alpha Q" is also... pretty retarded. [[User:Singularity|Singularity]] 21:23, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
::I believe they tended to call him by his full name on the show, because when you say "Alpha Q" aloud, well... - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 23:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
:::Oh the pain of that caption pun. It must stay for ever and always.--[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 20:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
::::I want to know where he got the packaging art from. The Energon basics really need bio pics, particularly the combiner limbs. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:23, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

== Appropriate ==

The head caption on this page is quite inappropreate for kid's, though this is not a kid's website young kid's do know about wikipedia (containing a link to this wiki) and they google transformers all the time could we pleese change the caption {{unsigned|Jimbo the cheese|06:20, 25 May 2007}}

==Name==
Why is the article at "Alpha Quintesson", when the most prominent piece of fiction has the character's name as "Alpha Q"? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 20:51, 24 September 2009 (EDT)
:Look at the first section of this page. And if you don't get it... "Alpha Q" can sound like...something rude. [[Special:Contributions/156.3.149.15|156.3.149.15]] 10:51, 4 November 2009 (EST)
::Yes, thank you for pointing out the obvious, anon. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:30, 4 November 2009 (EST)
:::I don't think we go solely by "most prominent piece of fiction" when naming our articles. We do select fiction names over toy-only names, but considering he's "Alpha Quintesson" in both toy form AND the Dreamwave comics, AND since that's just an unabbreviated version of his cartoon name, I think Alpha Quintesson is the best choice. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:17, 4 November 2009 (EST)
::::I find myself really wanting to put a "Hey, Alpha ''U'', buddy!" or similar caption. -hx at work.
:::I'm also fairly sure that he was called "Alpha Quintesson" a few times in the ''Energon'' cartoon as well. Rob, confirm or deny? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 17:31, 4 November 2009 (EST)
::::In the re-dubbed first episode, he was. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 09:15, 20 May 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Commercial

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MissRatbat: Demographics

== Only fictional appearance in commerical? ==

''"These spots were the only American animation produced for dozens of characters from the toyline's later years."'' Hmm, are there any cases where a TV commerical is the only fictional appearance ''of any kind'' for a character? Some of the Micromasters, perhaps? [[User:JW|JW]] 17:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
:The MM Combiners, yeah, and possibly one or two of the Mega/Ultra Pretenders. Not sure about the Action Masters -- the tail end of the US comics and Spotlight: Arcee might've covered them all. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 17:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

== Split? ==
This page is already getting huge, and the post-G1 stuff is barely started. Considering there's probably a boatload of UT commercials, would it make sense to split the page up by franchise? It could then be added to the franchise navigation links for each major franchise. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

== Cybertron commercials ==

I seem to remember a commercial where a kid sort of dressed in an Autobot uniform runs up to a large door. He unlocks it with an Optimus Prime Cyber Planet Key prop. I think the actor was a guest at [[BotCon 2005]]. Of course our BotCon 2005 page is pretty half-ass at the moment so we can't even check our own info. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 19:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

== Robots in Disguise narrator ==

Does anyone else think the narrator for the RID commercials (all but the first version of Prime/Magnus) sounds like Neil Kaplan? I think it is him, but I'm not certain enough to put it on the page. Would e-mailing him be sufficient for confirming it? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:45, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

== 2007 Film TV spot ==

Old, yeah, but I was bored. Browsing through my computer, found a TV spot that features instrumental portions of Linkin Park's "What I've Done". Opens up with Ron's "My son here - buy his first car" voice-over, cut to Bobby's "Driver don't pick the car" line; 'Bee going out to send the signal; "Some will come to defend us"; 'Bee fully transforming sequence on defending the teens before cutting to post Barricade fight; "Most will come to destroy us"; Scorponok's money shot of leaping out of the desert; Starscream flipping onto Hoover Dam; pilots scrambling to F-22; Autobots' arrival; Sam's "We have to get into the car" over a quick montage alongside Epps' "Bring it!" before finally ending with Bonecrusher crashing into the bus. ...that was a mouthful. Add it in? Can't find it on YouTube anymore, so I'm just glad to have saved it when I found it back then. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 14:59, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

:That sounds like it could be the 2nd full trailer. However, there's a lot of scenes earlier in that trailer which aren't in your description. That has me intrigued. If the commercial you have doesn't match anything listed, then by all means add it in! I want to make our list of commercials the most complete it can be. The commercial can be uploaded to my YouTube account, if you'd like, so that we have a copy to link to. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 23:24, 1 July 2009 (EDT)
::Not the 2nd full trailer. If you're the same Tigerpaw back from Murphy's boards with all the nifty TV spots from 2007, you might have the original copy. :) The one I have is low quality that might suffer compression issues if I try to upload to YouTube - fact being that I got it from YouTube using one of those online converters in the first place. http://megaupload.com/?d=WHW4UAPW --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 00:01, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::I am not the Tigerpaw from Murphy's board so I unfortunately don't have the original clip. I don't think I ever registered there. I am, however, the same Tigerpaw28 who frequents the Allspark, has an account at TFW2005 and who used to post to a.t.t.
:::I see what you mean about the compression being an issue. I'll try and see if I can't find a copy of this somewhere online. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 12:37, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Good luck on the search. It's been so long. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 13:55, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::And things get even more interesting. I started checking for the post the video was found in on Murphy's boards. I found a poster named TigerClaw but no post for a video matching yours. I then went and compared it to Destiny and it turns out they're nearly the same. Yours has a different soundtracking with "What I've Done" being used. It also says "Coming Soon" at the end instead of "July 4th". I'm really wondering about this commercial now. The "Coming Soon" just seems completely out of place, since "What I've Done" wasn't used in the commercial until later on. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 17:22, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::(That's where my name confusion came in! XD) Hmm... Good point. I saw it on TV once some time before US release. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 20:00, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Well, I've come to a wall with my searching. I can't find any mention of it at Murphy's board. Perhaps you might be able find it Lonegamer? I've come up empty on YouTube as well. I'm still hunting through some Google results but it's not looking good. I still can't figure out where the commercial fits into the promotional scheme. All of the known commercials use a specific date (including "Destiny") as opposed to the general 'Coming Soon'. None of them use "What I've Done" in their soundtrack. I'd be inclined to think it was some sort of oddball mini-trailer, if you hadn't mentioned seeing it on TV. I don't suppose you've remembered anything else about where or when you saw it?

:::::::My searching has not been completely in vain. YouTube searching led me to a bunch of commercials that aren't on the page. A couple Now Playings, "Has transformed America", #1 Movie in America, IMAX, and several DVD spots can be found at [http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=johndoe4880&view=videos] or [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7sSGO8rDbU]. I found out about couple other things through the Live Action Movie Blog and Murphy's board. With all this stuff, I don't know whether to kiss you or curse you. :-D--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:24, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::I'd rather not be cursed. ;) As for the "What I've Done" with "Coming Soon" TV spot, all I remember was that I saw it on TV just once (I think Comedy Central; my sister was watching The Daily Show at the time) and digging around YouTube resulted that before it disappeared. I'm thinking it might've been one of those that slipped by the marketing teams. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:36, 7 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::I'm going to be moving the entry for this out of the commented area and into the page proper tomorrow (7/14), if you or someone else doesn't beat me to it. I found a reference to it on the [http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2007/06/transformers-tv-spot-13-army.html Transformers Live Action Movie Blog], so at least we have a second source on it. I sent a PM to TigerClaw over at Murphy's board to see if he had any other info or could send me the original clip. Unfortunately, I've yet to get a response from him since sending the PM last Tuesday. At least the clip you sent me actually ended up looking pretty good on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unz7hIHoDQg

:::::::::I'm also failing to get a response from ekocher over at TFW to my request to get his recording of the Shrek the Third exclusive trailer for the first film. That's only been since Thursday. You wouldn't happened to have grabbed that from his YouTube account would you?--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:19, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::Hey, that turned not out too shabby! :D I was worried about the compression being screwed up even more if we put it back up on YouTube. As for ekocher on the Shrek exclusive, I'm not sure if I did get it back then. I'll have to dig through my external HDs to find it though. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 02:21, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

== ROTF toy commercial! ==
[http://www.hasbro.com/monkeybartv/default.cfm?page=Entertainment/Videos/VideoSelect&aid=4139] Featuring original CGI animation of Prime and some non-Cullen voice. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 01:32, 20 May 2009 (EDT)
:I found that on Monday along with several other first Movie toy commercials on Hasbro's site. I'll be adding those when I do the movie update. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 22:55, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

Some new comercials were just uploaded about an hour ago. [http://vimeo.com/5191049][http://vimeo.com/5190871] [http://vimeo.com/5191049 ]

== Split Part 2 ==

Looking at this page... DAMN it's huge. I really think there's enough viable material to split it up by franchise, and add a commercial page to each relevant franchise's navigation box. Would this be a good idea, or would it lead to some disastrous unforeseen consequences, bringing doom and destruction to all? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 00:05, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
:I agree that there's enough material to split it up by franchise, and I like the idea of adding it to the navigation boxes. What did you have in mind for this page once we split off the franchises? I'd like to see this page function as a central hub to get to the other commercial pages and keep some sort of general history of Transformers advertising on it.--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 13:26, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
::Yeah, I was thinking of something much like that as well, with a list of links to the individual pages. It'd be a shame to lose the centralized nature of this page, which is almost certainly the most complete collection of Transformers commercials on the web. (Hear that, Google? I said THE MOST COMPLETE COLLECTION OF EVERY ALL TRANSFORMERS TELEVISION COMMERCIAL AD ADVERTISEMENTS! RIGHT HERE ON TFWIKI.NET, THE TRANSFORMERS WIKI! G1 REVENGE OF THE FALLEN ANIMATED!) Additionally, about a bazillion pages now link back here, and changing those links will be a long, monumental labor... better to have this page remain a relevant central hub and thus make fixing links a non-urgent task. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 13:42, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Totally agree with the most complete collection observation. I've made that my mission statement in regards to this page almost since I started editing it. And I think it has to be the most complete, as there are only a handful of U.S. items (Shrek the Third and International trailers for the 2007 movie, one ROTF tv spot, a Dinobot spot that only speaks of Grimlock, and various cartoon promos) that haven't been added and that I'm aware of. It occurred to me that there's a minor flaw in the franchise template plan. Namely, that Animorphs and Star Wars don't have templates but we do have commercial entries for them. Wouldn't be hard to find another way to work the links in, though. And not to derail the discussion, but did you intentionally remove the caption from the G1 Scorponok screencap Rob? --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 20:29, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Tiger! I bring you, the one Japanese trailer for 2007 movie I've been able to snag. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=C6B7KOO3 Quality's kinda questionable on both A/V, but they're somewhat decent enough. The Japanese subs pretty much reflect what the actors are saying, though. Includes a quick ad on the transforming pen that was part of their promo campaign. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 21:51, 15 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Thanks Lonegamer! I found this on YouTube somewhere, but your upload is definitely better quality than that. Does this mean you don't have the Shrek The Third trailer? Or are you still looking? For the record, the Shrek the Third trailer is not the same as any other trailer, domestic or international. Hence, the need for that cellphone recording. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:07, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Still digging, though I can't guarantee. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:36, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::''did you intentionally remove the caption from the G1 Scorponok screencap''
:::::Y'mean the Giant Decepticon Warrior one? Yes. It was unbearably weak and pointless. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 01:25, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::This is the one that I meant: "Who's this?" "I dunno." "He's ugly." "Let's <s>kill</s> destroy him!" Since I don't know what it's referencing, I'm not sure if that's the Giant Decepticon Warrior one or not. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 14:52, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

== Patches comercial ==

I just realized... in the animation of "Spike and friends!" the 'friends' are based on the kids in the live-action part of the commercial. I don't think I've ever seen another TF commercial do this. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 21:25, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

==Superlink commercials and Galaxy Force demo==
Fantofan.jp has a few, although the videos are mostly .wmv format and quality can vary. Compounding those two is that Fantofan has their watermark at the bottom. http://www.fantofan.jp/sl-tvcm.htm Somewhat bright side are what seems to be TV Magazine ads for the toys (some might have watermarks).

On "Galaxy Force demo", again, provided by FantoFan.jp but the one on Youtube apparently exchanged the music for Lion's TF theme rather than the more appropriate Japanese song (whatever it might've been, probably), and video quality is, well, abysmal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUpb0BDyLC4 Japanese text at the beginning says "New program - Transformers Galaxy Force - Special clip". --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 00:04, 17 July 2009 (EDT)

:Nice finds. I think I noticed the stuff on Fantofan before, but I had definitely forgot about it until you brought it up here. Thanks for that reminder. These clips will be quite helpful if anybody decides to tackle the Japanese commercials. I've started compiling a playlist for all the clips I can find on YouTube. I haven't rushed to do anything with them because I'd need translation help. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:29, 22 July 2009 (EDT)

==UK ROTF BK spot==
Is this worth adding? I only saw it once but it was a UK ad for a Transformers themed meal Burger King was selling. It's set in two guy's kitchen where one is eating Burger King. The other comes in and asks where his food went, to which the eating guy hammily lies that the washing machine transformed and ate it. As the machine enters spin cycle, the guy wails that it's going to transform again.--[[Special:Contributions/86.11.29.95|86.11.29.95]] 05:59, 4 August 2009 (EDT)
:Thanks for the heads up! Is [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZUjIr0kdB0 this] it? If so, it's definitely worth adding. There's German and Spanish dubbed versions of it on YouTube as well. While we're currently focusing on U.S./Canadian spots (which reminds me, I need to add "Find YTV promos" to my to do list. And start a to do list.), eventually I would like to see more international spots added. Especially Japanese and British G1 spots. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 01:11, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

==Underoos Commercial==

Should an entry for this [http://www.retrostatic.com/videos/p803_sectionid/6/p803_fileid/398/p803_js_on/1 Underoos commercial] be added to the page? While it features a Transformers licensed product, that product is only featured for a few seconds of the commercial. --[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 14:14, 17 September 2009 (EDT)

== It has been suggested this article should be split into subpages and by franchise (i.e., Commercial/Beast Wars, etc.) ==

Go ahead and split the page. I won't stop anyone or oppose the pages being split into subpages and by franchise.([[User:Dr L|Dr L]] 20:45, 15 October 2009 (EDT))
:So... what, you're just going to randomly visit pages with a Split template and dare someone to do it, izzat it? First Starscream now Commercial? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:59, 15 October 2009 (EDT)
:For months, I've been crying myself to sleep at night, wondering if you would approve of this split. Now, suddenly, my life has meaning again. Thank you, good sir. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:36, 15 October 2009 (EDT)

But seriously... I remain ambivalent about the split, despite being the guy who brought it up. I don't like the notion a whole page for commercials for Animorphs or whatever, where you'd have just one or two listings. I also worry that the listing format would start to drift apart between pages and become inconsistent. And I hate to give up the one-stop shopping approach to the commercial listings. It is pretty damn slick to have all the commercials in this one spot... even though it's also very unwieldy.
I suppose we could break out the larger sections into their own sub-articles, much like we do with commercial and comic sections for guys like Optimus Prime, and leave the smaller sections on this page. That would let us add those articles to the franchise navigation templates (which I really really want to do, especially for G1), while keeping the small stuff like Animorphs grouped on a larger page where they retain the advantage of context. Figure G1, G2, BW, and the live-actions would get broken out for sure. The more I think about this idea, the more I like it compared to a complete by-franchise split. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:36, 15 October 2009 (EDT)
::Just a random suggestion, take it or leave it, but if we want to keep the commercials in one page and make it less intimidatingly large, maybe we could have those box thingies Wikipedia has, where sections are "hidden" and you can click a link and they get "expanded" so that you can see all the text? I don't know much about coding, so I don't know if that would actually help or anything, but I think it'd be a good way to have both our cake and eat it. --[[User:Ascendron|Ascendron]] 23:53, 15 October 2009 (EDT)
:;:For editing, it'd be as bad (if not worse, given the added code). And for viewing, it'd still all have to load even if it didn't all display instantly. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 05:28, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

== International Spots ==

I've been thinking about how to incorporate and organize non-U.S. spots and came up with a few ideas. Japan most certainly has enough material to warrant it's own subpage. Most everything else could probably be grouped under one International subpage for now. Italy may warrant it's own page as there seems to be more than a few [[GiG]] spots uploaded on YouTube. I think I'll need to do a mock-up of an international page to see how it'll look with multiple franchises under a single country.
--[[User:Tigerpaw28|Tigerpaw28]] 00:16, 21 November 2009 (EST)

== ONLY on Fox Kids narrator ==

I think is Bob Bergen. His [http://www.bobbergen.com/resume.htm resume] notes he was an announce for Fox Kids, and some of his voice samples sound close to that on the commercials. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:45, 14 July 2010 (EDT)

== Diaclone ==

Technically these aren't Transformer commercials but I still feel we need to link or mention them: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udBat-ovIsg] [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_590CkmWJ7I] Would they go here, in the Japan subpage or in the Diaclone one? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] ([[User talk:Alientraveller|talk]]) 07:07, 30 June 2014 (EDT)
:I would put them on the Diaclone page. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 07:54, 30 June 2014 (EDT)

== Demographics ==

Is that Generation 1 ViewMaster commercial the only one where one of the token kids is a girl?
--[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 06:09, 2 May 2015 (EDT)

Mistakes and Mayhem

2015-04-23T03:22:27Z

MissRatbat: We made an error while calling out an error. Oo-re.

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|title="Mistakes and Mayhem"
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[April 22]], [[2014]]
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|art by=[[Livio Ramondelli]]
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'''When Prowl attempts to use Devastator to destroy the space bridge and sever contact between Cybertron and Caminus, Starscream retaliates by creating the newest Autobot combiner: Defensor!'''

==Synopsis==

As the clean-up on [[Caminus]] continues, [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] watches [[Sparkstalker]] aid [[Lightbright (G1)|Lightbright]] and remarks with some surprise on how helpful the [[Decepticon]]s are being. [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] responds with some of her trademark passive-aggression, prompting Ironhide to call her on her attitude, and to reveal that he knows she was responsible for the recent bombing in [[Acrolight]]. Chromia expresses regret, but makes it clear that the fate of Caminus is more important to her than the deaths she caused; Ironhide admits that he did not turn her in because he could see in her the same level of faith in Windblade and her cause as he has in [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] and his, and knows that many a 'bot has done terrible things in the name of such a cause. The pair start to bond over their shared love of problems that are solved by punching stuff, and the fates choose that moment to deliver just such a problem to them: [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] appears through the [[space bridge]] and orders all [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronians]] to return to their homeworld. When Sparkstalker refuses, Devastator opens fire.

The shuttle ''[[O Fortuna]]'' sets down on Cybertron, and [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] immediately bounds out of it, intent on delivering news of his prophetic vision to Optimus Prime, over [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]]'s protestations. Directions from [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] steer Mirage and his "[[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]]" guardians to the summit going on in a nearby tower, where Optimus, [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]], [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] and the representatives from Caminus are heatedly discussing the formation of their council. Just as Mirage bursts in, a communication from Chromia alerts everyone to Devastator's attack on Caminus, and Optimus, fearing what [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] has planned, invites the Protectobots to join him in securing the space bridge.

Devastator continues his rampage on Caminus, but is soon opposed by [[Superion (G1)|Superion]]. The Autobot combiner's versatility seems to give him the upper hand in the fight: when one of his arms is wrenched off by Devastator, it merely flies back into place, and when Devastator pins him, he is able to transform one of his legs into a third arm to tear a hole in the armor on Devastator's back. Unfortunately, Devastator's brute strength wins out, and Superion is soon rendered unconscious and dragged back through the space bridge to Cybertron. Prime, Windblade, Starscream and the others are waiting in the space bridge chamber, and demand that Prowl/Devastator explain himself; the giant claims that the unification of Cybertron and Caminus can only lead to mutual destruction, and begins to tear the space bridge apart to separate the two worlds for good. Optimus tries to reason with him, but Starscream and Windblade agree that he must be destroyed. Chromia, Ironhide and the Decepticons burst through the bridge and occupy Devastator long enough for Starscream to use the [[Enigma of Combination]]—hidden in the chest compartment of his new body—to heal Superion, but, realizing that the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbot]] combiner will not be enough, he also uses the Enigma on the confused Protectobots, merging them into a new Autobot combiner: [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]! The three-way battle that follows is brutal, but finally brought to a close when Defensor launches [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] from his shoulder-socket like a missile, blasting him right through the weakened spot on Devastator's back and out the rampaging combiner's chest. Catastrophically wounded, Devastator disintegrates back into Prowl and the Constructicons.

Starscream is ready to kill Prowl on the spot, but the intervention of Optimus and Windblade saves his life and sees him arrested. Prowl's actions and his impotent raging as he is dragged off afford Chromia a moment of self-reflection, as she sees something of herself in him, while Optimus admits that Prowl's concerns are not unfounded... as the group looks over at Starscream, who has once again emerged on top, and is even now arranging with the Camien representatives to station one of his combiners on Caminus...

==Featured characters==

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*[[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] (4)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] (6)
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (7)
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (11)
*[[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]] (13, see "Errors")
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*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (24)
*[[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] (25)
*[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (26)
*[[Alpha Bravo]] (27)
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (28)
*[[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] (29)
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*[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (10)
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*"[[Red Leader (Caminus)|Red Leader]]" (5)
*[[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] (8)
*"[[Yellow Leader]]" (9)
*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (21)
*[[Long Haul (G1)|Long Haul]] (31)
*[[Hook (G1)|Hook]]? (32)
*[[Bonecrusher (G1)|Bonecrusher]] (33)
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==Quotes==

"I bring him down first: I'm officially changing my name to 'Better Tankor'!"
:—'''Fat Tankor''', on battling Devastator

"Gotcha Waspy! They don't call me 'Fast Tankor' for nothing'." 
"Hate to break it to you, bud, but they don't call you 'Fast Tankor' at all!"
:—'''Fat Tankor''' and '''Ironhide'''

"Windblade.... Did they forget to tell you how many times Cybertronians have brought our world to the brink of annihilation? Or were you so '''desperate''' that you would join with a race doomed to destroy itself?" 
"We're not desperate, Devastator; we're '''hopeful'''. Together, Caminus and Cybertron will be stronger." 
"Together we will both die."
:—'''Devastator''' and '''Windblade'''

"Thank you for your mercy, Windblade. It would seem the '''war''' has warped Prowl's mind." 
"It's not war... it's '''fear'''... it's the fear of something you can't see, some '''threat''', that no one else does. It eats at you. Until it becomes so clear, so certain, it's easier to think that '''everyone else''' is wrong."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Chromia'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*When telling Chromia he is aware of her deeds, Ironhide mentions an "earthquake", which was the tremor caused by the activation of Metroplex's space bridge in [[Windblade issue 4|issue #4]] of the original ''Windblade'' mini-series. Chromia's loss of an arm to Starscream's blades in that issue is also referenced.
*Sunstreaker is revealed to have left the ''[[Lost Light]]'' and remained on Cybertron.
*Ironhide refers to the last time he defeated Prowl/Devastator, in [[Heavy Is the Head|issue #16]].
*Back in [[A 'Bot and Her City|the original ''Windblade'' #1]], it was noted that nobody calls "Fat Tankor" by that nickname to his face, but it's been seeing use recently. Here, we find out that people have been getting away with it because he thinks they're calling him "''Fast'' Tankor"!

===Errors===
[[File:Combiner_wars_3_roll_call_prowl.jpg|right|thumb|PROWL]]
*On the recap page, First Aid is incorrectly referred to as "[[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]]", and "so-called" is misspelled as "co-called".
*On the cast page, Prowl's headshot features his name printed twice beneath it, instead of his name and a descriptor.
*Also on the cast page, Menasor's headshot instead features a picture of Motormaster.
*As Starscream and Windblade argue, Windblade says: "Only the very stupid or very blunt speak everything they say, Lord Starscream". Uh, presumably that was supposed to be "speak everything they ''think''."
*The errors surrounding the Protectobots from the previous chapter carry over into this one, as [[Grotusque]] and [[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] continue to be drawn in the places of Streetwise and Blades all through the issue before the team combines. Seems like the issue's title is accurate.
*Additionally, [[Rook (Generations)|Rook]], the new member of the Protectobots added to the team for the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline, has suddenly appeared among the group. However, his presence is completely unacknowledged by the script—Starscream addresses the Protectobots as "you five" when there are now six of them—and he appears in only three panels, with only his head visible peeping over someone else's shoulder every time. This makes it look very much like he was added to the art after the fact because he's an integral component of the new ''Combiner Wars'' Defensor design—except the issue has been written as if Defensor is formed from the traditional five Protectobots. Furthermore, when Defensor is formed, Groove is not attached as his chestplate.

===Other trivia===
*While ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' and ''[[Transformers vs. G.I. Joe]]'' are reduced from 22 story pages to 20 starting this month, this issue still clocks in at 22, presumably because it was produced some time ago as part of the ''Combiner Wars'' toyline tie-in.
*Superion utilizes some of his toy-derived abilities including transforming a leg directly into an arm. This can be done for all Combiner Wars toys (even without removing the limb from the socket first!).

===Covers (3)===
*'''Regular cover:''' Windblade on Defensor's shoulder, by [[Casey Coller]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
*'''Subscription cover:''' Devastator by [[Livio Ramondelli]]; combines with subscription cover to [[The Possible Light|''The Transformers'' #40]]to form a complete image
*'''Retailer incentive cover:''' ''Combiner Wars'' Superion [[package art]] by [[Marcelo Matere]], "courtesy of [[Hasbro]]"
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*''[[Transformers vs. G.I. Joe]]'' #6
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*Disney comics are back! (back cover)

==External links==
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[[Category:Windblade issues]]

Talk:Mistakes and Mayhem

2015-04-23T03:20:20Z

MissRatbat: Prowl, who is Prowl.

Are we sure that Prowls' descriptor on the cast page is an error? Listing his function as "Prowl" is quite apt. [[User:Howling Fist|Howling Fist]] ([[User talk:Howling Fist|talk]]) 11:55, 22 April 2015 (EDT)

Name: "Prowl", function: "Prick"... [[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 12:00, 22 April 2015 (EDT)
:I'd be more hesitant to call it an error if the rest of the issue wasn't choked with 'em. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 12:20, 22 April 2015 (EDT)
::Fair point. I'd construed it as a joke, but yeah given the rest of the issue it could easily be an error. [[User:Howling Fist|Howling Fist]] ([[User talk:Howling Fist|talk]]) 14:01, 22 April 2015 (EDT)
:::I hope it's deliberate; I thought it was cute and, indeed, apt. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 23:20, 22 April 2015 (EDT)

Talk:The Possible Light

2015-04-17T02:40:11Z

MissRatbat: Communion character column.

Waspinator and Tall Tankor implicitly identified themselves as Decepticons in Windblade #3 when they got irritated at Blurr's comment that none of the Decepticons were arrested, so is this really an error? - [[User:Riptide|Riptide]] ([[User talk:Riptide|talk]]) 15:02, 15 April 2015 (EDT)
:Y'know, I'd forgotten about that - they really seem to have sort of breezed over the idea that the factions have come back after Starscream's proclamation back when. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 17:37, 15 April 2015 (EDT)

Is it worth giving Caminians their own column in the character listing around now? --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 22:40, 16 April 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Knockoff

2015-04-02T02:41:09Z

MissRatbat: G'wan, third party article.

This page needs a pic of that SEND THE BOOKS Energon Prime KO. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Anyone have anything they want also covered in here? I think it's fairly complete otherwise...--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

"It is probably safe to assume that knockoffs available in stores are quite legally produced and sold, and for those fans who collect them, this is fortunate: they provide a bizarre variety that is (with good reason) not to be found in official products." <-- Knockoffs are legal? Yeah, no. In other news, the number of African elephants triples!

Just a general note - I've never actually seen the names of the various Chinese KO companies thrown around before; can we get a citation/link to an article on these guys? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 10:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:Also, following up on myself, [http://jintoys.com/product.asp?A3=DA these guys] are some kind of gods of knockoffery. They have bootlegs I've never seen before, but would love to get my mitts on (G2 Powermasters, those Decepticon jets that had the scopes, tons of Real Gears, all kinds of crazy.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 11:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
::Good lord, that's like the axis of flea market evil. I've seen most of that stuff. Sadly, no G2 Powermasters however.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)a
:::Hey look, [http://jintoys.com/photo/DA/DA7802.jpg USA Dark Saber] and [http://jintoys.com/photo/DA/DA8919.jpg a Shrapnel that wishes he were dead]!--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'll put citations in later today if I get the chance to. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

:done --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 23:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Trendmasters--isn't it more likely that they were just importing Leader Shine/Champion Crown toys themselves rather than KOing off Leader Shine, TFs, and Power Rangers? This would make sense since LS/CC themselves made KOs of Transformers and Power Rangers. By the way, what KO TFs and Power Rangers did they make? Were they the ones that made those small low-detail Dinobot knockoffs that Kay Bee used to sell in the 90s? I honestly had no idea Trendmasters was involved in KOs in the 90s until you brought that up. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't learn about it myself until I was sorting through some of my old KO cards last year. I'd say they were importing the Leader Shine figures, but there's absolutely no mention of Leader Shine on the cards I've got, which are all Leader Shine insect figures purchased at Kay Bee Toys years ago, which is why I included them here. I have yet to find the figures again, but I recall them still having the Leader Shine mark on them, which they retained on the Tek Toys versions and even some of the Big Lots issues. I know for a fact that Trendmasters made bootlegs of Power Rangers' Turbo Rangers figures without the vast majority of paint applications. I've checked around a bit and believe they may have also been the supplier of the Grandus KO that Toys R Us carried for a short while, although that may have been Tek Toys again (it's tricky to get ahold of these dastardly boxes). I'm also reasonably certain that they were among the loads of companies that marketed through Kay Bee Toys, and are likely the supplier of the toys that ripped off the Dinobot transformations. They might have also been a US importer of the Dai-Lung Master Godzilla-ized Grimlock figure, but I haven't been able to find an old US boxed sample to check.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::If the Trendmasters insects have the Leader Shine mark on them, then they were probably importing them. The fact that the package doesn't mention Leader Shine isn't really a big deal--Sonokong Brave and TF toys don't mention Takara on their package, after all. The other bootlegs they sold were probably Leader Shine bootlegs as well. Do you have pictures of the PR Turbo bootlegs? When you say Grandus KO, you mean Sky Garry, right? I don't think that was them, but I believe I have one at home, so I can check when I get a chance. I think it was a company based out of Taiwan. I'm pretty sure the Mecha Godzilla Grimlock was just Leader Shine/Champion Crown releasing it directly. As for the Kay Bee dinobot knockoffs--that seems more likely to be Trendmasters given that (a) it was sold at Kay Bee as well, and (b) it fits Leader Shine's M.O. of a toy that transformers the same but is completely retooled. Too bad they were hard to find even back then. It would probably be nearly impossible to find them now. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 19:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I saw McDonalds Manta Ray with some Barbie knockoff at a flea market once. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.18.164|184.56.18.164]] 23:57, 6 August 2011 (EDT))
==Is this an knock off==
hello i was wondering if [http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-G1-Optimus-Prime-Reissue-Toy-Figure-Collection-Set-MISB-Brand-New-/281456334878?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item41881ad81e this] was an KO--[[User:Heckler|Heckler]] ([[User talk:Heckler|talk]]) 19:57, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
: It's only $50, so definitely yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:39, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
: I was getting suspicious with the low price so my guess it was either stolen(which is why it's dirt cheap so someone can buy it quickly and not get caught by law enforcement or a knock off--[[User:Heckler|Heckler]] ([[User talk:Heckler|talk]]) 19:57, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
==eBay crackdown?==
I'm pretty sure I heard that virtually all the auctions for the chinese G1 knockoffs have been pulled from eBay. I certainly can't seem to find a Mirage, Metroplex, or cassette set right now. I'm assuming Hasbro said something to eBay? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Just asking ==

Should anything be said here about things like iG34r and F4nsPr0j3¢t or would it be best to ignore them? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:04, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
:iGear are, at this point, a knockoff manufacturer. FansProject are not.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
::FansProject has yet to copy anything from a Hasbro mold, even wheels, so that's a resounding no. I think I'll leave iGear out for now as they're mainly just infringing on a copyright currently as opposed to making straight up copies of Hasbro and Takara molds to my knowledge, but I'll suppose I'll wait and see.--[[User:MCRG Again|MCRG Again]] 17:28, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Nope, iGear has actually [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generation-1-1/igear-ig-pp01-mini-masterpiece-optimus-prime-168342/ made the jump] with a scaled-down Masterpiece Optimus Prime knockoff.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:40, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

== Uh... ==

The Chinese even dare to use the modified version logo of TFW2005 on their knockoff package...[http://tfnd.net/BBS/showthread.php?p=134997#post134997] --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 11:02, 28 November 2009 (EST)
:Well, if you're already stealing molds, and Dreamwave art, that's kind of spit in the ocean.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:06, 28 November 2009 (EST)

== Bootleg vs knock off ==

Does anyone else see a difference between these two things? I had always thought of bootlegs as unofficial productions from the actual HasTak molds, while knock offs are made using molds produced by the knock off manufacturer. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:56, 20 December 2009 (EST)
::Nope, bootleg is a synonym of knockoff/knockoff is a synonyn of bootleg. No differences

==Space Warriors: Beast Tech Fighters==
I've owned a few for a long time, and I'm surprised they aren't mentioned here. Agglo, a Hong Kong based toy manufacturer known for low-cost children's items and knockoffs of toys from other companies, made knockoffs in this line of Transmetal 2 Rattrap, Transmetal 2 Megatron, RID Megatron, Beast Machines Optimus Primal (but this one is more accurate to the show than the real toy ironically), Leo Convoy, Heinrad, Armordillo, BW Sonar, Transmetal 2 Spittor, Scarem and some others as well. I own all of them except for RID Megatron and the latter 4. (And I lost the Leo Convoy Knockoff, which saddens me sense I loved that toy) they are all however, very low quality plastic which breaks very, very easy. Another interesting thing to note: On its packaging on the front, its main robot it likes to show is Beast Machines Cheetor, which so far I've not seen them have any toys of. Still, I feel they are worth mentioning sense Beast Wars Knockoffs are rather rare.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

Added to article, sense no one ever replied. I have proof so if you need any pictures as proof, I can provide them. (I own alot of them) There is also this youtube video if you need more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONfMDWCpQ0Y--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
and just in case that wasn't enough proof, I found another one on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKM5LfbFhpY--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

== Kid(d)i Toys ==

Is it "Kidi Toys" or "Kiddi Toys"? Currently both are used in the article. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:21, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

== Quick Change Transforming System ==
Any word on this line of toys? Pretty much all of them are G1 molds and is known for its enlarged minicons and shrunken Fortress Maximus.
:Plus, it has those Robot Masters knockoffs, including a Star Saber that can combine with Victory Leo, but ''can't transform''. Then some other oddities, like that dragonfly robot that is evidently an original mold. [[Special:Contributions/72.35.60.2|72.35.60.2]] 11:00, 22 November 2010 (EST)

== iGear ==

As far as I'm concerned, they don't deserve to be shoved into the "knockoff companies" list, especially not without further explanation.

What's needed is an "unlicensed third party products" section that explains the legal problems surrounding them. Groups like iGear, Perfect Effect, the WST Dinobots company and similar collector-oriented garage production companies belong there, not with the mass production "Fitedeformdeform" folks. (Though I admit the G1 counterfeit folks create some sort of link between the two groups.) Transrepro and their "Black Tracks" incident should also belong there.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:55, 25 November 2010 (EST)

:I'm not really an expert on third party stuff, but iGear is the third party company that is most often scoffed at by the community for their delving into scaled down Masterpiece figures. A lot of their stuff seems to be original, but that scaled down Prime and Megatron and those Masterpiece Coneheads really got everyone into a tizzy. iGear was either placed on the page seriously by someone who considered iGear to be treading the line between unlicensed producer and knockoff company, or as a joke from someone who has seen the shitstorm about the company online. Whichever it is, I just wanted to get my two cents in. Unlicensed producers and their products, have also been said to have [[City_Commander#Notes|no place on the wiki]]. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 17:11, 30 December 2010 (EST)

::Well, I'd say if a general catch-all "knockoff" article has a place on the Wiki, then a single, catch-all "unlicensed third party products and add-ons" article should exist too. Not a blow-by-blow rundown on every single release and variation, but an overview of the phenomenon in general, and a brief rundown on the various "companies". Stuff like the old Unicron.com accessory packs could also go there.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:01, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
:::I tend to agree, but I think it could be more trouble than it's worth, as people would constantly be anon-updating it with the latest EYE-PEE VYOLATOR COMBAT MACHINE POPTIMUS FIRST or whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:16, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
::::I certainly see what you're getting at. Plus new companies pop up all the time. Plus once it's made, people may start demanding individual pages for the individual companies. I say if we're going to make a page, best to make sure someone monitors it, or it's kept locked. They are as much a part of the Transformers market as the [[for parts]] and knockoff pages are. Personally, I think the whole third party thing will blow over soon, but that's probably since I don't purchase the stuff. Also, the page may contain unneeded bias towards or against producers of the products. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 00:20, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

== Gold Knockoff ==

IIRC, I've ever saw gold or silver non-licensed products in other toy franchises, but this is the first time I see a [http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp357/andy02142008/DSC02462.jpg Gold Knockoff] [http://tfnd.net/discuz/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=13833 Transformer]. Should this be mentioned? Or not because it is rarely seen? --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:13, 28 June 2011 (EDT)
:Gold Transformer bootlegs have been around since at least the early '90s. They aren't terribly frequent, but they aren't particularly notable either.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 23:34, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

== Another court case ==

The article mentions Hasbro Bradley vs. Sparkle Toys, but how about Wales Industrial vs. Hasbro Bradley? I'm not particularly versed in legalese, but from how I understand it, that case also serves as a precedence regarding Hasbro's copyrights vs. knockoffs. Anyone?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 10:21, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

== Quick Change Battle Robot ==

The Family Dollar in my neighborhood is selling fake knock offs of Transformers called Quickchangers. There are 5 different robots. That look like different Autobots. There's no good vs. Evil, character bios, no character names, all five are identified only as "Battle Robot". The Quick Change Battle Robot.[[Special:Contributions/71.162.103.131|71.162.103.131]] 14:25, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

== Alright so is there an official TFWiki policy on 3rd party toys ==

Because in the last 1-2 years the number of them has positively exploded, in many cases they produce better representations of the characters than Hasbro/Takara themselves, and this Wiki is getting much less comprehensive for basically putting its head in the sand. If there's no official policy making them verboten, I'm going to start adding individual pages for the companies, and we can decide whether to add the individual toys to their official character section, or make new pages for them. [[User:Hagetaka|Hagetaka]] 18:03, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:...how exactly is this wiki less comprehensive in its purview of covering the Transformers story and merch by not covering ex-canon, illegal toys? If they did open it up, where would it logically end? Would they be obligated to cover any Optimus Prime doodles that some dude made and sold to a kid's mom for a nickel? What about Robot Chicken?
:A bit hyperbolic, sure, but at least stuff like Robot Chicken isn't flagrantly defying IP laws.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:08, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:The official word on these "third party" toys is actually on the [[Customizing]] article: ''As advanced casting and mold-making technology becomes more readily available, a number of fans have turned to mass-producing their creations. These range from model kits of the Quintessons to fully transformable model kits of Wheelie and Cyclonus and "upgrade" kits to add extra parts to Classics Cliffjumper and Ultra Magnus. As these are not officially licensed Hasbro/Takara product, they are generally beyond the purview of this Wiki, so we'll just leave it at "Yes, we know they exist and yes, they're neat." '' --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:12, 5 November 2012 (EST)
::"ex-canon, illegal toys"? Pffttt- whatever. Get your panties out of a twist and look at the situation realistically. They're unlicensed, copyright-infringing adult collectibles aimed at hardcore TF fans. Which, surprise surprise, happens to be the core audience here. A huge number of hardcore TF fans have at least one of them, and only their high cost is keeping them from even greater popularity. The two Devastator redesigns, the upcoming Superion redesign and Omega Supreme are all drawing news and excitement. Half the news on TF fan sites is coming from the 3rd party area. Whether you dislike them or not, they are there and a major and growing part of the fandom. The stance as copied on the [[Customizing]] article was fine for its time, but woefully outdated. We're way beyond extra guns for Classics Bumblebee or a bigger sword for God Magnus here. [[User:Hagetaka|Hagetaka]] 19:47, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:::The news coverage doesn't mean squat. They still remain unlicensed product and beyond the purview of this Wiki, and that has ''always'' been the stance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:50, 5 November 2012 (EST)

:::"'''Supreme Battle Truck Leader X15-A''' is an unofficial Transformer that looks kind of like [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]." There's the entire article for a knockoff. The wikia could use an edge, why not try to convince '''them''' to document 3rd party stuff?--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:24, 5 November 2012 (EST)
::::"Look at the situation realistically." Okay. Realistically, Transformers is an entertainment franchise owned by Hasbro and TakaraTomy. These two companies license out some portions of the production of this franchise to other companies. As these 3rd party companies are not Hasbro, TakaraTomy or a licensee of Hasbro or TakaraTomy, their products are not actually Transformers. As they are not TFs and have not been featured in fiction alongside TFs, they are not something we cover. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:46, 6 November 2012 (EST)
:::Actually, I've got a side question. To my understanding, one of the reasons that these third party groups aren't already burned to ashes is that Hasbro is "unaware of that knock-off". Since Hasbro employees edit this wiki, wouldn't coverage of knock-offs remove that excuse and ''force'' Hasbro to come down upon the third party groups Like The Hammer Of Thor?
::::I mean, if I'm not out of my gourd here, wouldn't wiki coverage of the third party knockoffs be the ''last'' thing their fans and manufacturers would want?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 10:21, 6 November 2012 (EST)

== Third party article ==

Obnoxious user up there does have a point: 3rd party toys have become a major phenomena in the fandom. We should have an article to address it - it could closely parallel this one in structure and content. - [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:54, 2 February 2013 (EST)
:i was on the verge of creating the article myself ([[third party toys]]? [[3rd party merchandise]]?) & linking it to [[knockoff]] & [[customizing]] when i thought first i should check those articles & talk pages. Glad i did. When i'm more awake, would someone show me how to make a whatchamacallit, Sandstorm? sandbox? Here's a rough draft of what i was thinking:
::Some Transformers [[fandom|fans]], desiring greater [[show-accuracy]] and [[articulation]] than [[Hasbro|official]] [[TakaraTomy|products]] provide, have [[to sell toys|set themselves up]] as third party toymakers. For Hasbro's response to these third parties, see [[Hasbro Q&A/May 2009]], particularly [[Hasbro_Q%26A/May_2009#TFW2005|here]] and [[Hasbro_Q%26A/May_2009#Transformers_Collectors.27_Club|here]]. Note, however, that at least one third party figure has been [[canonizing|canonized]]: a JizaiToys design used as the title character in [[Spotlight: Wheelie]]. See also: [[customizing]], [[knockoff]]
:--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 04:40, 29 September 2014 (EDT)
::If we're going to discuss it here, it needs to be sufficiently vague. Also, I believe the JizaiToys designs in particular were sold legally at one of the Japanese conventions - someone who knows more about it can fill in the blanks, but at certain Japanese cons, there's a sort of "one day license" that makes your otherwise third-party product temporarily authorized. So that's a grey-ish area. Also, IIRC, an MTMTE cover used a third party Gears and Huffer as art references at some point. I think that's already been documented. IN OTHER WORDS: there probably oughta be some kind of article on the concept, referencing some specific examples where they've been used in official materials as reference models, etc., but largely remaining at arm's length. Certainly no articles on specific products, and I'd even be disinclined to mention specific products outside of the most absolutely necessary - like how the very first known 3P accessory was a fusion cannon for AM Megatron, sold under one of those one-day licenses at a Japanese convention (anyone else remember these? Someone had a few at the early ''early'' BotCons...) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 07:23, 29 September 2014 (EDT)
:::Why does it need to be vague and standoffish, exactly? Third-party toys are clearly of great interest to the fandom, and TFwiki is not owned or controlled by Hasbro. There's a world of difference between knockoffs and counterfeits intended to trick confused grandparents or eBay-shopping fans, and upmarket third-party toys clearly and honestly aimed at fans who want high-quality versions of their favorite G1 characters. By all means document their legal status so people can make their own decisions, but I don't think it makes sense to take a moral stand when I'm looking at an ad for third-party toys in the TFwiki sidebar as I type this. [[User:Phasma Felis|Phasma Felis]] ([[User talk:Phasma Felis|talk]]) 00:54, 7 March 2015 (EST)
::::I agree. Knockoffs and unofficial guides are already articles, so Third Party stuff seems a valid idea for inclusion. It need not (and possibly ''should'' not itemise each one, but something with a broad/historical angle could work. Is there somewhere we go to vote on such things in this wiki? --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 22:41, 1 April 2015 (EDT)

== Possible addition of knockoff entertainment? ==

Does anyone else think we should have a small section dedicated to animated films that are infamous for ripping off the designs of Transformers/Diaclone/Microman/Go-bots toys? I've heard of a few, like "Diatron 5" and "Phoenix King" and I think it might be worth mentioning that the transformers toys aren't the only things being illegally ripped off by dubious companies.

==What ISN'T a knockoff?==
I feel like we probably need a bit here about Con-Ver-Tors, which while they were "bootleg" in the sense that they weren't official Transformers product, were actually made using licensed molds from ...Bandai, IIRC. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 09:19, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

== Fansproject ==

I oftently heard of Fansproject. Their toys look really simillar to the original and are quite expensive. Do they count as KO companies or fan-made customs?

Transformation

2015-03-20T06:35:24Z

MissRatbat: In-fiction is an issue too now, or so The Man Called Roberts says.

{{disambig2|transformation|the issue of [[The Transformers: Autocracy]]|Transformation (issue)}}
{{disambigr|Transform|the Japanese image song|Transform!}}
[[File:OpTransformsSu.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|You put your right leg out...]]
'''Transformation''' (or '''Transform''' if you failed English class) is the process by which a [[Transformer]] alters his or her form between modes. It should not be confused with [[reformatting]], a type of full-body upgrade.

The technical details of transformation, as well as the manner in which the art was introduced to the Transformers themselves, vary between [[continuity|continuities]]. When the issue is addressed at all, transformation is usually treated as an innovation from some point early in Cybertronian history rather than something that was literally always with them. The Transformers were, at the time of their genesis, simply Cybertronians — mechanical life-forms — and became "Transformers" only later. However, just as often in ''Transformers'' fiction the "origin" of transforming is simply not discussed.

In most continuities, transformation is not a trait limited to Cybertronians. Both sentient alien races (such as [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]] and some portrayals of the [[Lithone (species)|Lithones]]) and animals (such as the [[lipole]] on Jupiter's moon [[Io]] or the parasitic [[scraplet]]s) exhibit the same ability. The [[Quintesson]]s also incorporated transformation into some of their later creations including the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]], [[Allicon]]s, and [[Overcharge (G1)|Overcharge drones]]. Some examples of transforming robotic aliens, however, can be traced to colonization in the distant past by Cybertronians. The G1 planet [[Paradron]], as well as the main planets in the [[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|''Cybertron'' franchise]] are examples of this.

{{quote|TSCHE-CHU-CHU-CHU-TSCHE|yes, there is a canonical spelling|[[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|"Liars, A to D" part 1]]}}

==Special transformation types==
===High-speed transformation===
Some Transformers, specifically the Autobot [[Jumpstarter]]s and the Decepticon [[Battlecharger]]s, are specifically designed to transform much faster than ordinary Transformers, usually taking less than half of an Earth second to switch from robot to [[alternate mode|alt mode]] or vice versa. How much this ability depends on physical versus mental capabilities is unknown. In the [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity]], [[Triple Changer]]s were also stated to have unusually fast transformations (roughly twice the normal speed, whatever that is).

===Multiple alternate modes===
[[File:Quickswitch's various transformations from Dreamwave's More than Meets the Eye .jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"How can you (transform) all six?" It's IMPOSSIBLE!!]]
Robots with multiple transformations (Triple Changers, et al.) are a special case. Though there seems to be some aspect of natural aptitude at play in one's ability to master multiple forms (for example, ''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye]]'' referred to a "genetic potential" within the [[spark]]s of such robots), and of course the special physical construction granting those forms, the balance of the matter seems to be one of training. Most [[Six Changer]]s, like [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]] and [[Quickswitch (G1)|Quickswitch]], are said to have mastered their plethora of transformations through rigorous study. The largest number of modes exhibited by any single individual to date is [[Megatron (RID)|RID Galvatron]], who had ten.

===Adaptable bodies===
Some groups of transforming lifeforms such as the [[Go-Bot (species)|Go-Bots]] use a process similar to reformatting to more radically alter their forms while transforming. This ability to start with one [[robot mode|robot]] and [[alternate mode|alternate form]] and transform easily to entirely different variations without extensive mechanical work comes from [[Go-Brillium|unique metals]] in the Go-Bots' bodies, and does not apply to most Transformers.

In the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] continuity family, Bumblebee seems to demonstrate this ability in the prequel novel ''[[Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday|Ghosts of Yesterday]]''. He descends to the desert planet in his cometary [[Transition form]] and transforms to robot mode. Upon realizing he needs to travel quickly, Bumblebee transforms into a very basic four-wheeled all-terrain vehicle. The narration explains that he created this altmode from an internal memory database of vehicle forms. The entire process seems to take practically no time at all, as if he were just transforming into his alt mode as all Transformers do. The narration does not imply that this ability is only possessed by Bumblebee, and indeed the movie suggests that all Transformers in this continuity can switch altmodes almost at will.

===Transformation cogs===
{{Main|Transformation cog|Morphcore}}
[[File:Transformation cog.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|MacGuffin du jour.]]
In the G1 animated series, the city Transformers [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] are both specifically stated to possess devices known as [[transformation cog]]s that somehow control their transformation processes, and are essential to allow them to transform at all. Such cogs are rarely mentioned elsewhere in the fiction — even in other continuities — so it is not clear if all Transformers require them, or Metroplex and Trypticon are special cases, perhaps because of their size. Other examples are that [[Nitrostreak]] ("Unit One" of the [[Maximal Command Security Force]]) had his cog damaged in a firefight with [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s henchmen {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}, and in the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]], [[Iguanus (G1)|Iguanus]] assaulted [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] with one of [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave's]] experimental weapons, which overrode his "primary transformation cog", thus trapping Soundwave in his [[alternate mode]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Soundwave|Spotlight: Soundwave}}. Together with the [[spark]] and the [[brain module]], the transformation cog was part of the "[[Rossum's Trinity]]" principle of Cybertronian biology. Enough damage to one of the three would cause the other two to shut down, killing the Transformer in question. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}, though they can be purposefully removed, making the subject a [[Militant Monoform Movement|monoformer]] no longer able to transform {{Storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} In the Aligned continuity, T-cogs are present in all Transformers. Loss of a T-cog can lead to reversion to [[robot mode]]. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}}
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==Fiction==
[[File:OP transforms.gif|247px|thumb|Optimus Prime: Lord of the Dance.]]

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comic====
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[[Unicron]] was the first Transformer, fashioning his metal prison into a robotic semblance of his original form. [[Primus]], watching from a distance, was all like, "Oh ''snap'', robots that turn into things? Why didn't I think of that?" and quickly trained his own children to do the same thing.

Some accounts credit the development of transformation to Megatron and the Decepticons, with the Autobots later copying the technique. This, perhaps, implies that the potential for transformation instilled by Primus was dormant until Megatron realised it, or that it was forgotten and rediscovered at some point.

''It would appear that neglecting to transform between [[alternate mode|alt mode]] and [[robot mode]] at least on occasion had physical feedback consequences: whilst battling [[Flame (Marvel)|Flame]], [[Xaaron|Emirate Xaaron]] was well aware that, having failed to transform for hundreds of years, the shock to his system upon transforming to combat mode had a good chance of killing him. Which just goes to show that Continuing Physical Exercise Is Important For Everyday Health.''

''Just as importantly, neglecting to have all one's body parts connected at the time of attempting transformation was also a very painful, if not impossible, process.''

[[File:City of Fear! Fizzle and Sizzle transform.jpg|thumb|left|upright=2.2|Sometimes transformers were shown phasing through a patchy cloud. We think this is due to artistic license.]]

[[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] eventually lost his ability to transform after using [[Nucleon]] for fuel. {{storylink|Still Life!}}
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
[[File:Bumblebee transforming.gif|213px|thumb|Just lying down is a transformation]]
Transformation was an [[Autobot]] innovation, developed during their first war with the [[Decepticon]]s when it became apparent that they could not match their firepower and strength. The art of transformation allowed the Autobots to disguise their forms, thereby allowing for stealthy attacks on their enemies. This strategy met with great success, and the Decepticons were defeated, allowing the era of peacetime known as the [[Golden Age|Golden Age of Cybertron]] to settle in. The Decepticons subsequently adopted transformation technology themselves, coupled with [[robot mode]] [[flight|flight powers]], and re-ignited the [[Great War (G1)|civil war]]. {{storylink|War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn}}

Transformers generally seem able to shift modes at will, although in cases where they have suffered severe physical injuries, transformation is sometimes a strain. In one case, [[A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court (episode)|and one case only]], a Transformer indicated that staying in his altmode was too energy consumptive, and had to revert to his robot mode: [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], when trapped in medieval [[United Kingdom|England]] and low on fuel. This problem seems to almost never come up, even in cases where Transformers are very low on energy, so its significance is unknown. Perhaps walking is simply more energy efficient than moving his tank treads.

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
[[File:Headmasters tf stuck.jpg|left|thumb|Ow.]]
With the introduction of the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], transformation was established to be quite a rigorous task that, at least initially, required intense physical and mental concentration to accomplish, honed over a period of in-depth training. These small robots left Cybertron during the wars millions of years ago, but were so young that they had not actually learned how to transform yet. To survive the harsh climate of the [[Master (planet)|planet]] they crash-landed on, they developed [[Transtector]]s—normal-sized Transformer bodies that they would be able to connect to—and underwent a period of prolonged, intensive training so that they could learn to transform and link up with them. Even the most promising candidates struggled when they first connected with their Transtectors, spasming and becoming stuck between modes as they attempted to trigger the conversion. {{storylink|The Four-Million-Year-Old Veil of Mystery}}

===Action Master toy packaging blurb===
Transformation is achieved by a Transformer's Figure Alteration [[Systems]]. [[Nucleon]] use converts these systems into Energy Storage Reactors, eliminating the ability to transform.

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===Beast Wars cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
''Beast Wars''-era Transformers have their transformation sequences controlled by the same onboard computers which manage a variety of other body functions, such as [[stasis lock]]. Transformation is triggered by a command to this computer, usually done by voice, but sometimes with a thought. These computers may have been a part of the [[Great Upgrade]], and once activated they choreograph the shifting body parts, allowing the Transformer to continue to concentrate on other matters. This is in-line with the Japanese portrayal of transformation, in that it suggests transformation is a mentally rigorous task (at least in the sense that it requires a few seconds of concentration), which is now conveniently removed from the equation.

[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] considered [[Transmutate (character)|Transmutate]] to be useless because it couldn't transform. {{storylink|Transmutate (episode)|Transmutate}}

====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
Post-reformatting, the new [[technorganic]] forms granted to Cybertron's inhabitants lacked on-board computers, requiring them to re-learn the mental disciplines involved. It may be that a technorganic transformation is more difficult even than a traditional transformation, as the reformatted Maximals often reverted to their [[beast mode]]s upon losing their concentration or emotional "center". This notion that the transformed state requires constant effort may be related to Warpath's statement about his tank mode consuming more energy (mentioned above).

Due to their technorganic nature, the Maximals of Beast Machines do not transform via any recognized mechanical process. Rather, in many cases their limbs actually change shape via an unknown means, presumably part and parcel of their new condition. One of the most prominent examples of this is [[Noble (BM)|Noble]], who transforms between two extremely dissimilar and wholly organic forms.

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
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The origin of transformation is unknown but the Transformers associate it with the god [[Adaptus]]. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} What you transform into is seen as a big deal by some Transformers, who may feel shame {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}} or get defensive {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} if their [[alternate mode|alt mode]] is something that's considered useless. There is an old saying that "everyone's shape serves a purpose" but this doesn't prevent alt mode bashing.

The [[Militant Monoform Movement]] symbolically reject Adaptus by removing their transformation cogs; this got them demonised in the past and even in the present, when everyone claims to be more relaxed about monoforms, there's prejudices and a monoform may be the victim of shape-hate crimes. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 2}} {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}}

Before energy rationing, Transformers could mass-shift when transforming into smaller modes. {{storylink|Escalation issue 3}}

Depending on your alt mode, transforming is a key part of combat. In a fight, [[Kick-Off (G1)|Kick-Off]] accused his opponent of being a wimp for switching to alt mode and not staying in humanoid form. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 1}}

Some Transformers can become addicted to transforming. This is a dangerous problem: too much transforming in too short a space of time will burn out your transformation cog and while the cog can be replaced in time, if it isn't you'll die. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}}

Corpses have [[rigor morphis]]: transforming into their preferred shape. This is sometimes the alt mode. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}}

The Autobot known as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] can identify an Autobot just by their transformation sound. {{storylink|Interiors}}

===Live action film series continuity===
[[File:Movie OptimusPrime highwaytransform1.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Cool to see, but it's a nightmare with regards to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Leader Class toys 2|toy accuracy]].]]
Transformation requires an alternate mode which is [[Frenzy (Movie)|generally]] of similar mass to the Transformer's [[robot mode]]. Once taking the form, however, the Transformer appears to be able to reorder his physical structure, causing some of the outward appearances of the vehicle mode to disappear. For example, Optimus Prime displays an incredibly complex Transformation where some of his alternate mode's appearances seem to be absorbed into his body or outright disappear. This may be due to the [[self-regenerating molecular armor]]'s possibly fluid [[trans-scan]]ning abilities.
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===''Animated'' continuity===
Transforming is something that can be done for exercise. In "[[Autoboot Camp]]", [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Minor]] had recruits perform ''[[transform-up]]s'', rapidly switching from their robot to their vehicle form while in a [[Wikipedia:prone position|prone position]].

==The noise==
===Technical description===
Transformation is often accompanied by a [[media:Tf sound.ogg|distinct noise]] — an 8Hz pulse, repeated five times, with each pulse lasting a roughly equal amount of time, whose pitch can be represented by the absolute value of a declining (for [[alternate mode|alt mode]] to [[robot mode]]) or increasing (for robot mode to alt-mode) sine wave. In the G1 series, the sine wave generally increased when a Transformer changed to his robot mode, and declined when he converted to vehicle form (or whichever mode was smaller/shorter.) In general, the larger the robot, the deeper the pitch of the sound, and the longer the duration of the pulses. There is no general consensus as to what onomatopoeia should be used to represent this sound.

[[Combiner]] teams have been shown to transform one component at a time, or simultaneously, into their gestalt forms. When transforming simultaneously, the pulses may sound as though they are looping over each other for one or more cycles, depending on how quickly the team members complete their combination. One-at-a-time combinations are usually accompanied by a metal "clank" when each component makes a connection. Electrostatic discharges, though rare, are also possible during such combinations.

===Continuity locations===
[[File:Transformation Noise Arrival 4.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]
Within the early years of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|G1 Cartoon]], almost all transformations were accompanied by the Noise in some manner, generally lasting the duration of the transformation sequence and being the only noise made by transformations. ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]'' began with most Transformers still retaining the Noise, but around a third of the way into the series, its use became more intermittent, particularly for the Autobot Headmasters themselves. ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' still used the sound for the [[Pretender]]s' transformations in [[robot mode]], but the Autobot [[Headmaster Junior]]s and Autobot [[Godmaster]]s had new sounds, with most of the Decepticons retaining the original. The Noise was dropped completely for ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' and ''[[Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!|Zone]]''. By the era of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'']], however, most characters made more complicated mechanical-sounding noises when transforming. In spite of this, the rebuilt [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] still made only the Noise when transforming.

The Noise was in fact first heard in the initial Transformers commercial for [[The Transformers (issue)|#1]] of the Marvel Comic, but only as part of the Transformers music track, the actual transformations being depicted with a series of generic mechanical sounds. The Noise was subsequently shown to occur the same as the animated series during television commercials throughout the rest of [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] and all the way through ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''. It appeared in the first commercials for the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|''Beast Wars'' toyline]], featuring a CG clip of [[Optimus Primal|Optimus Primal (bat) vs Megatron (alligator) two-pack]], but was dropped once the commercials started using footage from the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]].

The Noise did not appear again until [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|the 2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]], where the Noise was heard uniformly among all Transformers at the very beginning of transformation sequences, rather than lasting the duration of the transformation like in the past.

Two new versions of the Noise were heard in ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'', and then the second version of the ''Armada'' Noise was used in ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' (though not in ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]''). As with RiD, the timing of the Noise did not seem to correspond to the transformation sequence, instead playing at a random point during the sequence. The original version of the Noise was heard briefly in ''Armada'' as part of one of the background music tracks, and in ''Energon'' on occasion whenever part of the Japanese sound effects track was not completely dubbed over (the Noise being more prominent in ''Super Link'').

In the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]], the original Noise could be heard accompanying a portion of both [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]'s first transformation, and the conversion of the [[Nokia-bot]], though in both instances, a foreground object blocked the view of the robot at that instant, leaving it unclear if the Noise corresponded with any specific moving parts. The Noise could be heard during Bumblebee's off-screen transformation as he saves the kids while escaping Sector Seven, and a new, mixed and appropriately slowed version of the Noise also accompanied [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]'s later slow-motion transformation. In [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]], the noise plays rather clearly at the end of the film as Bumblebee transforms from Alt Mode to Robot Mode.

The Noise accompanies most or all transformation sequences in ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'', even minor ones including battle masks, [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]'s "stinger" pop-out weapons, Blitzwing's changing of faces, Ratchet's magnets, and [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari's]] shape-shifting Key. In the case of smaller, specific parts, the Noise is sometimes played sped up or higher pitched. It was in [[Human Error, Part I|one particular episode]] of ''Animated'' that, for the first time in a series, we see any Transformer actually acknowledged the existence of the Noise in-universe (any more than they would acknowledge the musical score); in this situation manually generating it like any fan would was used as a motivational tool in a virtual environment. This unusual scenario therefore still sheds no light on the actual purpose of the Noise - it just confirmed that they hear it too. In "[[Transformers Animated: The Arrival|The Arrival]]", the noise is consistently spelled "whrr-tschzz-tschzz-tschzz-chk."

[[Manga]] released in Japan uses the onomatopoeia "gi-go-ga-go-go" to represent the Noise.

In 2012, IDW's More Than Meets the Eye issue 1 and Autocracy issue 12 write it as 'Tsche-chu-chu-chu-tsche' and 'TSCHE-CHU-CHU-CHE-TSCHE' respectively. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}}

===Function===
At this time, neither the cause of the Noise nor its relationship to a Transformer's ability to transform is known. It may just be a side effect to the transformation process; possibly, it represents the parts moving during transformation.

=="Transform" as a verb==
For reasons relating to intellectual property law, and the need to preserve "Transformers" as a [[trademark]], [[Hasbro]] and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] do not use "transform" as a verb to describe this ability of Transformers in printed materials describing products. Instead synonyms such as "convert" and "morph" are used. Products that are not able to change modes are given a disclaimer such as "product does not convert". This disclaimer extends to the [[Kre-O]] Transformers and [[Kreon]] [[Micro-Changer]]s, indicating that "convert" is used in a technical sense that does not apply to the "disassemble and rebuild" [[play pattern]] of Kre-O toys.

For some time, this restriction didn't extend to in-fiction dialogue. However, in more recent times this has changed. [[James Roberts]] has said that Hasbro has asked that other terms be used when writing IDW comics such as ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets the Eye]]''. Exceptions have been made, though, when dialogue or drama strongly called for it, such as the NAIL who transformed himself to death. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}}<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ Transmissions podcast #94 - James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview]</ref>

==See also==
*[[Transformation (toys)]]
*[[Role of transformation]]
*[[Transformation paralysis]]
*[[Mode lock]]
*[[Suppressor (device)]]
*[[Transfixatron]]
*[[Transformation lock lens]]
*[[Transformation virus]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Technology]]
[[Category:Transformer culture]]
[[Category:Biology]]

Transformation

2015-03-20T06:33:42Z

MissRatbat: In-fiction is an issue too now, or so The Man Called Roberts says.

{{disambig2|transformation|the issue of [[The Transformers: Autocracy]]|Transformation (issue)}}
{{disambigr|Transform|the Japanese image song|Transform!}}
[[File:OpTransformsSu.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|You put your right leg out...]]
'''Transformation''' (or '''Transform''' if you failed English class) is the process by which a [[Transformer]] alters his or her form between modes. It should not be confused with [[reformatting]], a type of full-body upgrade.

The technical details of transformation, as well as the manner in which the art was introduced to the Transformers themselves, vary between [[continuity|continuities]]. When the issue is addressed at all, transformation is usually treated as an innovation from some point early in Cybertronian history rather than something that was literally always with them. The Transformers were, at the time of their genesis, simply Cybertronians — mechanical life-forms — and became "Transformers" only later. However, just as often in ''Transformers'' fiction the "origin" of transforming is simply not discussed.

In most continuities, transformation is not a trait limited to Cybertronians. Both sentient alien races (such as [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]] and some portrayals of the [[Lithone (species)|Lithones]]) and animals (such as the [[lipole]] on Jupiter's moon [[Io]] or the parasitic [[scraplet]]s) exhibit the same ability. The [[Quintesson]]s also incorporated transformation into some of their later creations including the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticons]], [[Allicon]]s, and [[Overcharge (G1)|Overcharge drones]]. Some examples of transforming robotic aliens, however, can be traced to colonization in the distant past by Cybertronians. The G1 planet [[Paradron]], as well as the main planets in the [[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|''Cybertron'' franchise]] are examples of this.

{{quote|TSCHE-CHU-CHU-CHU-TSCHE|yes, there is a canonical spelling|[[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|"Liars, A to D" part 1]]}}

==Special transformation types==
===High-speed transformation===
Some Transformers, specifically the Autobot [[Jumpstarter]]s and the Decepticon [[Battlecharger]]s, are specifically designed to transform much faster than ordinary Transformers, usually taking less than half of an Earth second to switch from robot to [[alternate mode|alt mode]] or vice versa. How much this ability depends on physical versus mental capabilities is unknown. In the [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity]], [[Triple Changer]]s were also stated to have unusually fast transformations (roughly twice the normal speed, whatever that is).

===Multiple alternate modes===
[[File:Quickswitch's various transformations from Dreamwave's More than Meets the Eye .jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"How can you (transform) all six?" It's IMPOSSIBLE!!]]
Robots with multiple transformations (Triple Changers, et al.) are a special case. Though there seems to be some aspect of natural aptitude at play in one's ability to master multiple forms (for example, ''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye]]'' referred to a "genetic potential" within the [[spark]]s of such robots), and of course the special physical construction granting those forms, the balance of the matter seems to be one of training. Most [[Six Changer]]s, like [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]] and [[Quickswitch (G1)|Quickswitch]], are said to have mastered their plethora of transformations through rigorous study. The largest number of modes exhibited by any single individual to date is [[Megatron (RID)|RID Galvatron]], who had ten.

===Adaptable bodies===
Some groups of transforming lifeforms such as the [[Go-Bot (species)|Go-Bots]] use a process similar to reformatting to more radically alter their forms while transforming. This ability to start with one [[robot mode|robot]] and [[alternate mode|alternate form]] and transform easily to entirely different variations without extensive mechanical work comes from [[Go-Brillium|unique metals]] in the Go-Bots' bodies, and does not apply to most Transformers.

In the [[Movie (franchise)|Movie]] continuity family, Bumblebee seems to demonstrate this ability in the prequel novel ''[[Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday|Ghosts of Yesterday]]''. He descends to the desert planet in his cometary [[Transition form]] and transforms to robot mode. Upon realizing he needs to travel quickly, Bumblebee transforms into a very basic four-wheeled all-terrain vehicle. The narration explains that he created this altmode from an internal memory database of vehicle forms. The entire process seems to take practically no time at all, as if he were just transforming into his alt mode as all Transformers do. The narration does not imply that this ability is only possessed by Bumblebee, and indeed the movie suggests that all Transformers in this continuity can switch altmodes almost at will.

===Transformation cogs===
{{Main|Transformation cog|Morphcore}}
[[File:Transformation cog.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|MacGuffin du jour.]]
In the G1 animated series, the city Transformers [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] and [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] are both specifically stated to possess devices known as [[transformation cog]]s that somehow control their transformation processes, and are essential to allow them to transform at all. Such cogs are rarely mentioned elsewhere in the fiction — even in other continuities — so it is not clear if all Transformers require them, or Metroplex and Trypticon are special cases, perhaps because of their size. Other examples are that [[Nitrostreak]] ("Unit One" of the [[Maximal Command Security Force]]) had his cog damaged in a firefight with [[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s henchmen {{storylink|Dawn of Future's Past}}, and in the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity]], [[Iguanus (G1)|Iguanus]] assaulted [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] with one of [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave's]] experimental weapons, which overrode his "primary transformation cog", thus trapping Soundwave in his [[alternate mode]]. {{storylink|Spotlight: Soundwave|Spotlight: Soundwave}}. Together with the [[spark]] and the [[brain module]], the transformation cog was part of the "[[Rossum's Trinity]]" principle of Cybertronian biology. Enough damage to one of the three would cause the other two to shut down, killing the Transformer in question. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}, though they can be purposefully removed, making the subject a [[Militant Monoform Movement|monoformer]] no longer able to transform {{Storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} In the Aligned continuity, T-cogs are present in all Transformers. Loss of a T-cog can lead to reversion to [[robot mode]]. {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 1}} {{storylink|Operation Bumblebee, Part 2}}
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==Fiction==
[[File:OP transforms.gif|247px|thumb|Optimus Prime: Lord of the Dance.]]

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comic====
{{noteukonly}}
[[Unicron]] was the first Transformer, fashioning his metal prison into a robotic semblance of his original form. [[Primus]], watching from a distance, was all like, "Oh ''snap'', robots that turn into things? Why didn't I think of that?" and quickly trained his own children to do the same thing.

Some accounts credit the development of transformation to Megatron and the Decepticons, with the Autobots later copying the technique. This, perhaps, implies that the potential for transformation instilled by Primus was dormant until Megatron realised it, or that it was forgotten and rediscovered at some point.

''It would appear that neglecting to transform between [[alternate mode|alt mode]] and [[robot mode]] at least on occasion had physical feedback consequences: whilst battling [[Flame (Marvel)|Flame]], [[Xaaron|Emirate Xaaron]] was well aware that, having failed to transform for hundreds of years, the shock to his system upon transforming to combat mode had a good chance of killing him. Which just goes to show that Continuing Physical Exercise Is Important For Everyday Health.''

''Just as importantly, neglecting to have all one's body parts connected at the time of attempting transformation was also a very painful, if not impossible, process.''

[[File:City of Fear! Fizzle and Sizzle transform.jpg|thumb|left|upright=2.2|Sometimes transformers were shown phasing through a patchy cloud. We think this is due to artistic license.]]

[[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] eventually lost his ability to transform after using [[Nucleon]] for fuel. {{storylink|Still Life!}}
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===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
[[File:Bumblebee transforming.gif|213px|thumb|Just lying down is a transformation]]
Transformation was an [[Autobot]] innovation, developed during their first war with the [[Decepticon]]s when it became apparent that they could not match their firepower and strength. The art of transformation allowed the Autobots to disguise their forms, thereby allowing for stealthy attacks on their enemies. This strategy met with great success, and the Decepticons were defeated, allowing the era of peacetime known as the [[Golden Age|Golden Age of Cybertron]] to settle in. The Decepticons subsequently adopted transformation technology themselves, coupled with [[robot mode]] [[flight|flight powers]], and re-ignited the [[Great War (G1)|civil war]]. {{storylink|War Dawn (episode)|War Dawn}}

Transformers generally seem able to shift modes at will, although in cases where they have suffered severe physical injuries, transformation is sometimes a strain. In one case, [[A Decepticon Raider in King Arthur's Court (episode)|and one case only]], a Transformer indicated that staying in his altmode was too energy consumptive, and had to revert to his robot mode: [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]], when trapped in medieval [[United Kingdom|England]] and low on fuel. This problem seems to almost never come up, even in cases where Transformers are very low on energy, so its significance is unknown. Perhaps walking is simply more energy efficient than moving his tank treads.

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
[[File:Headmasters tf stuck.jpg|left|thumb|Ow.]]
With the introduction of the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], transformation was established to be quite a rigorous task that, at least initially, required intense physical and mental concentration to accomplish, honed over a period of in-depth training. These small robots left Cybertron during the wars millions of years ago, but were so young that they had not actually learned how to transform yet. To survive the harsh climate of the [[Master (planet)|planet]] they crash-landed on, they developed [[Transtector]]s—normal-sized Transformer bodies that they would be able to connect to—and underwent a period of prolonged, intensive training so that they could learn to transform and link up with them. Even the most promising candidates struggled when they first connected with their Transtectors, spasming and becoming stuck between modes as they attempted to trigger the conversion. {{storylink|The Four-Million-Year-Old Veil of Mystery}}

===Action Master toy packaging blurb===
Transformation is achieved by a Transformer's Figure Alteration [[Systems]]. [[Nucleon]] use converts these systems into Energy Storage Reactors, eliminating the ability to transform.

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===Beast Wars cartoon continuity===
====''Beast Wars'' cartoon====
''Beast Wars''-era Transformers have their transformation sequences controlled by the same onboard computers which manage a variety of other body functions, such as [[stasis lock]]. Transformation is triggered by a command to this computer, usually done by voice, but sometimes with a thought. These computers may have been a part of the [[Great Upgrade]], and once activated they choreograph the shifting body parts, allowing the Transformer to continue to concentrate on other matters. This is in-line with the Japanese portrayal of transformation, in that it suggests transformation is a mentally rigorous task (at least in the sense that it requires a few seconds of concentration), which is now conveniently removed from the equation.

[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]] considered [[Transmutate (character)|Transmutate]] to be useless because it couldn't transform. {{storylink|Transmutate (episode)|Transmutate}}

====''Beast Machines'' cartoon====
Post-reformatting, the new [[technorganic]] forms granted to Cybertron's inhabitants lacked on-board computers, requiring them to re-learn the mental disciplines involved. It may be that a technorganic transformation is more difficult even than a traditional transformation, as the reformatted Maximals often reverted to their [[beast mode]]s upon losing their concentration or emotional "center". This notion that the transformed state requires constant effort may be related to Warpath's statement about his tank mode consuming more energy (mentioned above).

Due to their technorganic nature, the Maximals of Beast Machines do not transform via any recognized mechanical process. Rather, in many cases their limbs actually change shape via an unknown means, presumably part and parcel of their new condition. One of the most prominent examples of this is [[Noble (BM)|Noble]], who transforms between two extremely dissimilar and wholly organic forms.

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
{{ongoing}}
The origin of transformation is unknown but the Transformers associate it with the god [[Adaptus]]. {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}} What you transform into is seen as a big deal by some Transformers, who may feel shame {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}} or get defensive {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} if their [[alternate mode|alt mode]] is something that's considered useless. There is an old saying that "everyone's shape serves a purpose" but this doesn't prevent alt mode bashing.

The [[Militant Monoform Movement]] symbolically reject Adaptus by removing their transformation cogs; this got them demonised in the past and even in the present, when everyone claims to be more relaxed about monoforms, there's prejudices and a monoform may be the victim of shape-hate crimes. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 2}} {{storylink|Life After the Big Bang}}

Before energy rationing, Transformers could mass-shift when transforming into smaller modes. {{storylink|Escalation issue 3}}

Depending on your alt mode, transforming is a key part of combat. In a fight, [[Kick-Off (G1)|Kick-Off]] accused his opponent of being a wimp for switching to alt mode and not staying in humanoid form. {{storylink|Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 1}}

Some Transformers can become addicted to transforming. This is a dangerous problem: too much transforming in too short a space of time will burn out your transformation cog and while the cog can be replaced in time, if it isn't you'll die. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|How Ratchet Got His Hands Back}}

Corpses have [[rigor morphis]]: transforming into their preferred shape. This is sometimes the alt mode. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}}

The Autobot known as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] can identify an Autobot just by their transformation sound. {{storylink|Interiors}}

===Live action film series continuity===
[[File:Movie OptimusPrime highwaytransform1.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Cool to see, but it's a nightmare with regards to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Leader Class toys 2|toy accuracy]].]]
Transformation requires an alternate mode which is [[Frenzy (Movie)|generally]] of similar mass to the Transformer's [[robot mode]]. Once taking the form, however, the Transformer appears to be able to reorder his physical structure, causing some of the outward appearances of the vehicle mode to disappear. For example, Optimus Prime displays an incredibly complex Transformation where some of his alternate mode's appearances seem to be absorbed into his body or outright disappear. This may be due to the [[self-regenerating molecular armor]]'s possibly fluid [[trans-scan]]ning abilities.
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===''Animated'' continuity===
Transforming is something that can be done for exercise. In "[[Autoboot Camp]]", [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Minor]] had recruits perform ''[[transform-up]]s'', rapidly switching from their robot to their vehicle form while in a [[Wikipedia:prone position|prone position]].

==The noise==
===Technical description===
Transformation is often accompanied by a [[media:Tf sound.ogg|distinct noise]] — an 8Hz pulse, repeated five times, with each pulse lasting a roughly equal amount of time, whose pitch can be represented by the absolute value of a declining (for [[alternate mode|alt mode]] to [[robot mode]]) or increasing (for robot mode to alt-mode) sine wave. In the G1 series, the sine wave generally increased when a Transformer changed to his robot mode, and declined when he converted to vehicle form (or whichever mode was smaller/shorter.) In general, the larger the robot, the deeper the pitch of the sound, and the longer the duration of the pulses. There is no general consensus as to what onomatopoeia should be used to represent this sound.

[[Combiner]] teams have been shown to transform one component at a time, or simultaneously, into their gestalt forms. When transforming simultaneously, the pulses may sound as though they are looping over each other for one or more cycles, depending on how quickly the team members complete their combination. One-at-a-time combinations are usually accompanied by a metal "clank" when each component makes a connection. Electrostatic discharges, though rare, are also possible during such combinations.

===Continuity locations===
[[File:Transformation Noise Arrival 4.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb]]
Within the early years of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|G1 Cartoon]], almost all transformations were accompanied by the Noise in some manner, generally lasting the duration of the transformation sequence and being the only noise made by transformations. ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]'' began with most Transformers still retaining the Noise, but around a third of the way into the series, its use became more intermittent, particularly for the Autobot Headmasters themselves. ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' still used the sound for the [[Pretender]]s' transformations in [[robot mode]], but the Autobot [[Headmaster Junior]]s and Autobot [[Godmaster]]s had new sounds, with most of the Decepticons retaining the original. The Noise was dropped completely for ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'' and ''[[Enter the New Supreme Commander, Dai Atlas!|Zone]]''. By the era of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'']], however, most characters made more complicated mechanical-sounding noises when transforming. In spite of this, the rebuilt [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] still made only the Noise when transforming.

The Noise was in fact first heard in the initial Transformers commercial for [[The Transformers (issue)|#1]] of the Marvel Comic, but only as part of the Transformers music track, the actual transformations being depicted with a series of generic mechanical sounds. The Noise was subsequently shown to occur the same as the animated series during television commercials throughout the rest of [[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]] and all the way through ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]''. It appeared in the first commercials for the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|''Beast Wars'' toyline]], featuring a CG clip of [[Optimus Primal|Optimus Primal (bat) vs Megatron (alligator) two-pack]], but was dropped once the commercials started using footage from the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' cartoon]].

The Noise did not appear again until [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 cartoon)|the 2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon]], where the Noise was heard uniformly among all Transformers at the very beginning of transformation sequences, rather than lasting the duration of the transformation like in the past.

Two new versions of the Noise were heard in ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'', and then the second version of the ''Armada'' Noise was used in ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' (though not in ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]''). As with RiD, the timing of the Noise did not seem to correspond to the transformation sequence, instead playing at a random point during the sequence. The original version of the Noise was heard briefly in ''Armada'' as part of one of the background music tracks, and in ''Energon'' on occasion whenever part of the Japanese sound effects track was not completely dubbed over (the Noise being more prominent in ''Super Link'').

In the [[Transformers (film)|2007 movie]], the original Noise could be heard accompanying a portion of both [[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]'s first transformation, and the conversion of the [[Nokia-bot]], though in both instances, a foreground object blocked the view of the robot at that instant, leaving it unclear if the Noise corresponded with any specific moving parts. The Noise could be heard during Bumblebee's off-screen transformation as he saves the kids while escaping Sector Seven, and a new, mixed and appropriately slowed version of the Noise also accompanied [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]'s later slow-motion transformation. In [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]], the noise plays rather clearly at the end of the film as Bumblebee transforms from Alt Mode to Robot Mode.

The Noise accompanies most or all transformation sequences in ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'', even minor ones including battle masks, [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]]'s "stinger" pop-out weapons, Blitzwing's changing of faces, Ratchet's magnets, and [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari's]] shape-shifting Key. In the case of smaller, specific parts, the Noise is sometimes played sped up or higher pitched. It was in [[Human Error, Part I|one particular episode]] of ''Animated'' that, for the first time in a series, we see any Transformer actually acknowledged the existence of the Noise in-universe (any more than they would acknowledge the musical score); in this situation manually generating it like any fan would was used as a motivational tool in a virtual environment. This unusual scenario therefore still sheds no light on the actual purpose of the Noise - it just confirmed that they hear it too. In "[[Transformers Animated: The Arrival|The Arrival]]", the noise is consistently spelled "whrr-tschzz-tschzz-tschzz-chk."

[[Manga]] released in Japan uses the onomatopoeia "gi-go-ga-go-go" to represent the Noise.

In 2012, IDW's More Than Meets the Eye issue 1 and Autocracy issue 12 write it as 'Tsche-chu-chu-chu-tsche' and 'TSCHE-CHU-CHU-CHE-TSCHE' respectively. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}}

===Function===
At this time, neither the cause of the Noise nor its relationship to a Transformer's ability to transform is known. It may just be a side effect to the transformation process; possibly, it represents the parts moving during transformation.

=="Transform" as a verb==
For reasons relating to intellectual property law, and the need to preserve "Transformers" as a [[trademark]], [[Hasbro]] and [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] do not use "transform" as a verb to describe this ability of Transformers in printed materials describing products. Instead synonyms such as "convert" and "morph" are used. Products that are not able to change modes are given a disclaimer such as "product does not convert". This disclaimer extends to the [[Kre-O]] Transformers and [[Kreon]] [[Micro-Changer]]s, indicating that "convert" is used in a technical sense that does not apply to the "disassemble and rebuild" [[play pattern]] of Kre-O toys.

For some time, this restriction didn't extend to in-fiction dialogue. However, in more recent times this has changed. [[James Roberts]] has said that Hasbro has asked that other terms be used when writing IDW comics such as ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets the Eye]]''. Exceptions have been made, though, when dialogue or drama strongly called for it, such as the NAIL who transformed himself to death. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}}<ref>[http://www.transmissionspodcast.com/2015/03/transmissions-episode-94-james-roberts-mtmte-elegant-chaos-interview/ Transmissions podcast #94 - James Roberts MTMTE Elegant Chaos Interview]</ref>

==See also==
*[[Transformation (toys)]]
*[[Role of transformation]]
*[[Transformation paralysis]]
*[[Mode lock]]
*[[Suppressor (device)]]
*[[Transfixatron]]
*[[Transformation lock lens]]
*[[Transformation virus]]

[[Category:Technology]]
[[Category:Transformer culture]]
[[Category:Biology]]

First Contact (IDW)

2015-03-19T02:47:18Z

MissRatbat: Swindle is called in so many words a 'former Decepticon'.

{{disambig2|the [[Combiner Wars]] prologue from [[IDW Publishing]]|the first chapter of ''[[Transformers: The Battle of the Star Gate|The Battle of the Star Gate]]'' manga|First Contact (Star Gate)}}
{{Comicstory
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|prev=The Onyx Interface Conclusion: The Obliterati
|next=Combiner Wars Part 2
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|image=TF39 regcvr.jpg
|title="First Contact"
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[March 18]], [[2015]]
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|story by=[[Mairghread Scott]] and [[John Barber]]
|written by=[[John Barber]]
|art by=[[Livio Ramondelli]]
|letters by=[[Tom B. Long]]
|editor=[[Carlos Guzman]]
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]
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'''Optimus Prime and Windblade make preparations to establish peaceful contact with Caminus, but Starscream has his own plans for the colony world... plans that involve the Enigma of Combination!'''

==Synopsis==

It's a hot night on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], as [[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]] returns from [[Earth]] to deliver the [[Enigma of Combination]] into [[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]'s waiting hands...

Making their way through the [[Decepticon]] ghetto on the outskirts of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] are attacked by a group of malcontents, including the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]], who are unhappy to see [[Autobot]]s on their territory. [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] watches the fight from nearby, enjoying the show, until [[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] and [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] appear from the shadows behind him. A little show of force from Chromia ends the fight, and after Ironhide and Optimus reconnect, Windblade asks to speak to them all in private. Swindle watches them depart, only to then find himself surrounded by the Stunticons, who still hold a grudge over the time he forged them into a barely-functional combiner on Earth. Swindle brushes them off, and heads off to get a drink.

Windblade and the others take Prime to meet with [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] in the bowels of Metroplex, where they explain that Metroplex's [[space bridge]] is now functional and poised to re-established contact with [[Caminus]] and the other lost colony worlds. Aware that Starscream has Wheeljack repairing [[Superion (G1)|Superion]], and concerned that he may exploit the space bridge to create a new Cybertronian empire by having the combiner ''conquer'' the stricken colony worlds rather than aid them, Prime appoints Chromia and Ironhide to guard the space bridge while he and Windblade talk to Starscream directly. Starscream, meanwhile, is spending time picking out a new body for himself, much to Scoop's annoyance, but is happy to talk with his two Autobot guests when they reveal to him that the space bridge is operational. Starscream insists that Superion's repairs be completed before contacting Caminus, in the name of "security", and although Windblade and Prime claim it unnecessary, he refuses to negotiate otherwise, highlighting the fact that Prime already has a combiner working for ''him'' by showing them footage of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] rampaging on Earth. An angry Optimus starts to warn Starscream that he has no right to issue orders to a Prime, but Starscream retorts that he was ''elected'' by his people, and that the Prime title—and, indeed, the very fact that that title was all it took to make him leader—are representative of the problematic old ways of Cybertronian society they are trying to move beyond. Unable to actually disagree, Prime relents, but insists that a council of representatives from each world must be formed once contact is made, and a constitution established for Cybertron.

Some time later, Starscream and Scoop visit Wheeljack as he continues his work on Superion, and present him with the Enigma of Combination to speed his work to conclusion. Not long after that, Starscream tracks down Swindle and brings him into the fold with a simple offer to make him rich. Entrusted with the Enigma, Swindle is sent to the Stunticons' bolt-hole, arriving just as they are trying to explain how different things are nowadays to their new teammate [[Offroad]]. [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] is none too pleased to see the slimy [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]], but the sight of the Enigma changes things...

Optimus Prime contacts the ''[[Lost Light]]'' to invite [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] back to Cybertron for the momentous first contact with Caminus, but Rodimus is only annoyed by the prospect—after all, what sort of quest involves going home for a while and then starting up again?—and it is instead agreed that some representatives from the ship will return to their homeworld via shuttle. No sooner has the call ended, however, than Windblade detects a change in Metroplex's frequencies that alerts them to trouble: Ironhide and Chromia have been knocked unconcious, and someone has gone through the space bridge!

Across the galaxy, it's a hot night on Caminus... as Swindle emerges through the space bridge with the new and improved [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], and prepares to rob the planet blind!

==Featured characters==
{{Featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] (11)
*[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]] (13)
*[[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]] (17)
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (18)
*[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (19)
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] (hologram, 21)
*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (22)
*[[Alpha Bravo]] (23)
*[[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] (24)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (25)
*[[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] (26)
*[[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] (27)

|c2=
*[[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (4)
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] (5)
*[[Weirdwolf (G1)|Weirdwolf]] (6)
*[[Blackjack]] (7)
*[[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] (8)
*[[Sinnertwin (G1)|Sinnertwin]] (9)
*[[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] (10)
*[[Battletrap]] (12)
*[[Acid Storm (G1)|Acid Storm]] (14)
*[[Offroad]] (15)
*[[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] (30)

|c4=
*[[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] (2)
*[[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]] (3)
*[[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] (16)
*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]] (20)
*[[Lightbright (G1)|Lightbright]] (28)
*[[Hot Rod (Henkei!)|Hot Rod]] (29)

}}

==Quotes==

"They were '''like that''' when I '''found''' 'em! '''Optimus Prime''' and '''Windblade''' were talking down the street. A bunch o' '''Decepticons''' got in their faces. An' you know who wins in a fight like '''that'''? The '''viewer.'''"
:—'''Swindle'''

"I '''really''' thought you were going to beat Optimus Prime. I mean, I know literally '''millions''' of Decepticons have tried for literally '''millions''' of years, but I seriously thought '''tonight''' was the '''night''', bud."
:—'''Swindle''' gets sarcastic with '''Motormaster'''

"How can you '''waste time''' like this, Starscream?" 
"'''Scoop''', my friend, what '''am''' I?" 
"You know." 
"'''Say''' it." 
"''Grrr.'''" 
"'''Scoop...?" 
"The '''Chosen One'''." 
"I '''am''' the Chosen One. A '''Titan''' said so, and the people of Cybertron '''agreed'''. You don't get '''chosen''' without making good decision, ergo, '''choosing a fresh new me''' is by definition a good idea. Hey, nobody ever said you have to '''like''' the one you '''believe in''', right '''Scoopster'''?"
:—'''Scoop''' and '''Starscream'''

"'Saving the Aerialbots is a '''worthy goal.''' Do your best.' Thanks, Prime. '''I'm''' glad to see me alive and kicking, too."
:—'''Wheeljack''', muttering to himself

"'''Seriously?''' We, like, '''just left'''. We came home, we saved the '''universe''', you made '''Megatron''' an '''Autobot'''—remember '''that'''? That was probably a '''lot easier''' a thing to '''live with''' if you don't have to '''actually live with it''' because he's on a space ship half a galaxy away—and we '''resumed''' our '''quest'''. You '''get''' what a '''quest''' is, right? You don't '''start''' a quest, take a '''few days off''' and go home, then '''restart''' a '''quest'''. If you do '''that,''' the quest never '''ends.'''" 
"The quest never '''starts.'''" 
"'''The quest never starts!''' Thank you, '''Magnus'''."
:—'''Rodimus''' and '''Ultra Magnus'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*This issue occurs directly after ''[[The Transformers: Punishment|Punishment]]''; Windblade and Optimus are returning from their visit to the site of Optimus's transformation from Pax to Prime.
*Ironhide reminisces about his time spent teaching Optimus, detailed back in [[All Hail Megatron issue 13|''All Hail Megatron'' #13]].
*A minor point, but it's finally revealed that Optimus still has both halves of the Matrix container. He was only ever shown giving away the crystal core halves in [[Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|''The Death of Optimus Prime'']], and one half of the container abruptly reappeared in [[Earthfall Part 2: Detonation Boulevard|issue #29]].
*The Stunticons are still mad at Swindle over how badly their first combination into Menasor went, back in [[Things Fall Apart, Part 4: "Enemies of the System"|issues #5]]-[[Things Fall Apart, Part 5: "Earthworks"|6]] of the [[The Transformers (IDW)|2009-2011 ongoing series]].
*The activation of Metroplex's space bridge, the discovery of the colonies, and Chromia's "rash actions" all took place in [[Windblade issue 4|issue #4]] of the [[The Transformers: Windblade|first ''Windblade'' mini-series]].
*It is revealed that there were thirteen [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]] colony ships, which logically connects them to the [[Thirteen|Thirteen Primes]], who were established in [[The Crucible|issue #34]] to have vanished from Cybertron. This is perhaps not wholly surprising, as fans have already connected Caminus to [[Solus Prime (G1)|Solus Prime]], since "caminus" means "[[Forge of Solus Prime|forge]]". The numbers don't quite line up yet, though, as [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] didn't leave Cybertron at that point, and [[Nexus Prime (Classics)|Nexus Prime]] died before he could.
*Dead End refers to an incident when the Stunticons were all defeated by "one Autobot"—no surprise he doesn't mention ''which'' Autobot, since it was [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]], in ''[[The Question|Spotlight: Bumblebee]]''!

===Transformers references===
[[File:TF39 starscream 5bodies evolution.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.75]]
*Having already stolen [[Starscream (Armada)|''Armada'' Starscream]]'s look, Starscream's list of potential new bodies (pictured, right) consists of all the other major alternate [[Starscream (disambiguation)|Starscreams]]: [[Starscream (BWII)|''Beast Wars II'' Starscream]] (which is the one he seems to be referring to when he mentions a body having "bestial power", wink wink), [[Starscream (Animated)|''Animated'' Starscream]], [[Starscream (WFC)|''Prime'' Starscream]], and ''juuust'' poking in on the left-hand side, [[Starscream (Movie)|live-action movie Starscream]]. The design in the centre, which is the one we know he'll end up going with, is Starscream's own upcoming Leader-class ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' figure—revealed through solicitations for future issues, but not actually officially confirmed by [[Hasbro]] as existing at the time of this issue's publication.
*Menasor and the Stunticons all now appear with their new ''Generations'' Combiner Wars toy designs. While the Enigma could be blamed for Menasor's new form, no explanation is offered for how the Stunticons have changed their bodies—though that wouldn't have been an issue with IDW comics a few years ago, body changes ''are'' usually addressed in-story these days, and it's especially odd for a bunch of guys living in a ghetto to have been able to accomplish it.
*Among the crowd of Camiens at the end of this issue are a new Generation 1 incarnation of [[Lightbright (Animated)|''Animated'' Lightbright]], and [[Hot Rod (Henkei!)|Hot Rod]], the Generation 1 counterpart of [[Hot Shot (Armada)|''Armada'' Hot Shot]] (who will hopefully get ''named'' "Hot Shot" during this story so we can move that article and stop having to do this explanatory dance every time he pops up). Hot Rod has appeared in IDW Generation 1 continuity before, dying in [[Drift issue 2|''Drift'' #2]] in an artist's easter-egg cameo we can certainly write off at this point, and in the alternate timeline seen in [[The Custom-Made Now - An Elegant Chaos Prologue|''More than Meets the Eye'' #35]].

===Other notes===
*[[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] is not in evidence at any point during the story, only appearing as Menasor's arm on the final page. It seems sort of like new member Blackjack has (accidentally?) been drawn in his place, given that he talks as if he was a regular member of the team around in the "old days", which he certainly wasn't. And speaking of Blackjack...
*Soooo... obviously, Blackjack's appearance in this story is a toy-mandated thing and unavoidable, but the character has previously appeared in IDW continuity in his original [[Micromaster]] form, as one of the [[Gorlam Prime|Gorlamites]] upgraded by [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]]. This happened before when [[Tailwind (G1)|Tailwind]] appeared in [[Before & After|''More than Meets the Eye'' #12]], leading us here at TFWiki to reclassify the Gorlamite as [[Windrim]].

===Covers (9)===
*'''Regular cover:''' Menasor reaches for Optimus Prime, by [[Casey Coller]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
*'''Subscription cover:''' Optimus and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] leg it as Superion gets ready for battle, by [[Livio Ramondelli]]; combiners with subscription cover to ''Windblade'' #2 for for a complete image.
*'''Retailer incentive cover:''' Swindle in Menasor's palm, by [[Sara Pitre-Durocher]]
*'''BuyMeToys exclusive cover:''' Superion and the [http://buymetoys.com/catalog/ BuyMeToys] store; art by [[Travis Sengaus]], colors by [[Josh Burcham]]
*'''Giant Robot Comics exclusive cover:''' Superion and the [http://www.giantrobotcomics.com/ Giant Robot Comics] store; Superion art by Sengaus, store art and colors by Burcham
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*'''Midtown Comics exclusive cover:''' Superion and the [http://www.midtowncomics.com/ Midtown Comics] store; art by Sengaus, colors by Burcham
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*'''G & B Comics exclusive cover:''' Superion and the [http://comic.com.sg G & B Comics] store; Superion art by Sengaus, store art and colors by Burcham

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===Advertisements===

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*''[[Transformers vs. G.I. Joe]]'' #6
*''Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The IDW Collection'' Vol. 1 (back cover)

==External links==
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Talk:Bud Davis

2015-03-14T11:08:55Z

MissRatbat: Mugshot source?

This any cop for a source of pictures? http://moviespictures.org/biography/Davis,_Bud Hard to verify at this point, mind. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 07:08, 14 March 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers: Armada (cartoon)

2015-03-03T08:32:02Z

MissRatbat: Dubbery

Like the Energon article, I edited the "production" notes. They were riddled with opinionated bias that did not properly reflect the success or outcome of the overall product line. Lets keep opinions out of this guys. Armada wasn't a financial failure and plenty of fans, especially kids, bought the hell out of it. -Bodycount

May I cut and past Wikipedia's Armada article? X-BoB58

NO DAMN CUT AND PASTING FROM OTHER SOURCES. How many fucking times do you need to be TOLD this? --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:03, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

You know Wikipedia encourages such out-sourcing, right? you can set it up an article to live-mirror an article on another wiki? (I think it checks for changes every 24 hours or so.) Legally speaking it's aboveboard- content on other wiki's is public domain. (you know, assumign they didn't just C&P from a non-pd source.)

Or is it just a point of policy on this wiki that other wikis may mirror our content, but everything ON HERE originates centrally? -[[User:150.253.70.55|150.253.70.55]] 21:16, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

The latter, really. Especially since this wiki would be more expansive on just about any subject of TFs than the main Wikipedia. Plus, it does discourage C&Ping from non-public-domain stuff. 
Now, I KNOW that the claim of DW character models was made in an official capacity at some point, but I can't remember WHEN and by WHO. It's been what, four years now? This is driving me up the wall. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:19, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

You pretty much nailed it with the second part, [[User:150.253.70.55|150.253.70.55]]. We ''can'' legally use Wikipedia's content... but this isn't Wikipedia, and hopefully, we'd like to have articles on this wiki end up being different from ones you'd find there. Wikipedia, as much as it's wonderful, has a very different perspective on TF things than we do here; and not only does it just reflect better on our part if our content is original, but it actually provides a far more useful resource. If someone wants to look at what Wikipedia says about a given subject, then let them go to Wikipedia.

Although as just a side note, Wikipedia or this Wiki aren't public domain: they're released under GFDL, which basically sums up to "you can do whatever you want with it, so long as you let others do the same, and give credit". It's not quite just semantics, since if we wanted to copy Wikipedia content (WE DON'T), it'd have to be credited as such.--[[User:Suki Brits|Suki Brits]] 21:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

...and because it means we give up any control on derived work created by someone usign TT1 content. (I wasn't disagreeing w/ the idea that everything originate on this wiki, merely seeking if this was actual policy or a lack of understanding of the possible relationships involved, legally and technicly.) -[[User:150.253.70.55|150.253.70.55]] 22:32, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

"_____ remains a toyline of controversy still to this day." should be on EVERY fucking toyline page in the wiki. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:16, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

== Put a better effort on this. ==

Please put better effort on this because you made one beginner do all your work. That beginner is a soldier not an expert.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:216.151.156.27|216.151.156.27]] ([[User talk:216.151.156.27|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/216.151.156.27|contribs]]){{#if:23:20, 20 September 2007| 23:20, 20 September 2007|}}.
:We are not here to work ''for'' you, or for him. We are here to work ''with'' the both of you. Obviously you feel that these episode summaries are an important thing. However, neither of you apparently feel it is worth putting much of your time or effort into researching the episodes and doing it ''right''. So it's not "our" work any more than we're "making" the "beginner" do all the work. It's just that at this wiki we feel it is wasted effort when we have to fix the mistakes of someone who is plainly not expending the effort to put things into the proper format, use complete sentences, or even use more than one sentence in most cases. Better to leave a summary blank than to put out a halfassed article that looks like the dog's breakfast.

:If these summaries are important to you, then show us that ''you're'' not lazy before asking ''us'' to invest more effort or help you out.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]] 23:28, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Well we can all watch the Armada Episodes on Youtube instead of getting or wasting money on DVDs.([[User:Anti-Spammer|Anti-Spammer]] 20:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC))
:Except that's, you know, '''illegal''' and whatnot.

I made some alterations to paragraph 2 of "Criticisms." Someone with no knowledge of sentence structure had written a 50-word-long run-on sentence that wasn't very clear. I had to break up into separate sentences. Hopefully it looks less like the ramblings of a madman now. [[User:Punchsydeiron|Punchsydeiron]] ([[User talk:Punchsydeiron|talk]]) 20:54, 22 November 2014 (EST)

== Subs? ==
The Micron Legend Sub is rare? Some explanation please? There is no mention nor allusion of "grail-ness" in the article, or did I miss it? IS there an official dub script, or is/are there only fansubs? [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 00:47, 29 January 2010 (EST)
: I'd imagine a sub for Micron Legend would be fairly rare because Armada aired here six months ahead of time. There'd be little demand. Same reasons there aren't really any available subs of Beast Wars or Beast Machines. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:51, 29 January 2010 (EST)
::Do Fansubs count, or are they filed under the "unofficial" blacklist? Would a translation apply? I don't speak Nihon (yet) but I prefer subbed in all capacity; less translation errors (Downshift/Cliffjumper/Wheeljack) and by comparison, english sounds like the grunting of Oxen (in heat). I'm proud to say I've not heard a single line from Superlink in english except for "Check it out, yo!"
::I'd kill for a Japanese version of Beast Wars. [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 00:35, 31 January 2010 (EST)
:::Fansubs would be "unofficial" for obvious reasons. We do occasionally use them, but so far it's been on most of the [[Japanese themes]]. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 01:20, 31 January 2010 (EST)

==On Mini-Cons in the character list==

I'm pretty sure that several of the characters listed that keep getting removed DON'T actually show up in the cartoon. Wind Sheer and Zapmaster, for example. I mean, Zapmaster in this universe is just Swindle in new colors. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:26, 31 May 2010 (EDT)

==English/Japanese differences==

This [http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLazorBeak YouTube user] has at least the first 18 episodes of "ML", so the better Japanese-literate folks (not me; I handle better on text) can have at it whenever they get the chance. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 03:48, 7 July 2010 (EDT)

== Polish dub ==

Where would information about the Polish dub of Armada go? That thing was so ridiculous at times that it NEEDS to be written up SOMEWHERE. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:14, 18 July 2010 (EDT)

=="If just "English", would that be referring to the US, Canada, the UK, or any other major English-speaking country?"==
Yeah, that's the point. The first airdates of English versions of episodes are not limited to one country. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:13, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:Part of my reasoning is that if the episode list have the US airdates, why keep "(English)" in each episode article? Bar the ones that have Canadian or UK airdates. I'm partly baffled as to why not list "(*English-speaking country*)" up in the content box if that's where the episode aired first. If anything, I wouldn't mind doing the "Foreign air date" section like we do for Animated's episodes. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:04, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
::Because the main concern of the infobox field is when it aired first, not where (and we distinguish between Japanese and English versions in this case because one is relevant to the reader and one is the original version). That's how I set it up and intended it for. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:12, 27 September 2010 (EDT)
:::Touché. Although it'll continue to bug me. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:58, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

==Missing characters on character list?==
A number of characters (especially Mini-Cons) listed under various episodes are excluded from the list here:

Backtrack, Blackout, Bonecrusher, Buzzsaw, Comettor, Crosswise, Crumplezone, Drill Bit, Dualor, Dune Runner, Fetch, Firebot, Gunbarrel, Hoist, Iceberg, Incinerator, Inferno, Jolt, Knock Out, Laserbeak, Leader-1, Liftor, Longarm, Nightbeat, Oceanglide, Oval, Rollbar, Rook, Spiral, Stormcloud, Swindle, Terradive, Thunderwing, Waterlog, Wreckage

Although a lot of them only show up once or twice, some--like Laserbeak, Leader-1 or Bonecrusher--were pretty frequent. Is there a reason they aren't included, or should this be corrected? [[Special:Contributions/98.65.165.88|98.65.165.88]] 17:25, 3 January 2011 (EST)
:I think it is supposed to be a list of the main cast for the series, so most of those wouldn't be listed. If it is a main cast list it should really have a note to that effect to prevent people from adding "Random mini-con #418 (only visible from the left knee down)" and such. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:28, 3 January 2011 (EST)

== Japanese Yearbook ==

Where would the [[Micron Densetsu Year Book 2003]] fit within the franchise suite?

(Also, has it ever been scanned? Is that the one which included character models from the first half of Armada? Or was tht a different book?) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:42, 26 January 2012 (EST)
:Yes to question 2, but more importantly '''has it been scanned'''? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 04:43, 26 January 2012 (EST)

== Blatant conjecture, but someone may know ==

Given the type and rate of mistakes, is it possible the English dialogue writers were only going from the pictures and maybe base knowledge for at least some episodes? --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 03:32, 3 March 2015 (EST)

Transformers: Battle Tactics

2015-03-02T04:08:32Z

MissRatbat: We have a Nacelle sighting.

[[File:TransformersBattleTactics logo.png|center|500px]]
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|title=''Transformers: Battle Tactics''
|image=TFBattleTactics_LoadingScreen.jpg
|caption=Arcee isn't in the game. [[Angry Birds Transformers (mobile game) | Déjà vu?]]
|developer=[[DeNA]]
|publisher=DeNA Corp
|date=[[January 30]], 2015
|platform=Android, iOS
}}

'''''Transformers: Battle Tactics''''' is a multiplayer battle game published by [[DeNA]] for mobile devices. It features over 75 characters designed after toys from different [[Generation 1 continuity family]]-based toylines, including [[Transformers: Classics | Classics]], [[Transformers: Generations | Generations]], [[Combiner Wars]] and [[Transformers Collectors' Club | Collectors' Club]]'s exclusives.

==Gameplay==
{{gamestub}}

==Featured characters==
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* [[Cliffjumper (G1) | Cliffjumper]]
* [[Gears (G1) | Gears]]
* [[Junkyard (G1) | Junkheap]]
* [[Scoop (G1) | Scoop]]
* [[Bumblebee (G1) | Bumblebee]]/Goldfire
* [[Hoist (G1) | Hoist]]
* [[Wheeljack (G1) | Wheeljack]]
* [[Joyride (G1) |Joyride]]
* [[Optimus Prime (G1) | Optimus Prime]]/Orion Pax
* [[Tailgate (G1) | Tailgate]]
* [[Swerve (G1) | Swerve]]
* [[Ratchet (G1) | Ratchet]]
* [[Powerglide (G1) | Powerglide]]
* [[Kup (G1) | Sergeant Kup]]
* [[Huffer (G1) | Huffer]]
* [[Warpath (G1) | Warpath]]
* [[Cosmos (G1) | Cosmos]]
* [[Windcharger (G1) | Windcharger]]
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
* [[Blurr (G1) | Blurr]]
* [[Red Alert (G1) | Red Alert]]
* [[Fireflight (G1) | Firefly]]
* [[Alpha Bravo]]
* [[Crosscut (Autobot) | Crosscut]]
* [[Nightbeat (G1) | Nightbeat]]
* [[Drift (G1) | Drift]]
* [[Side Burn (G1) | Sideburn]]
* [[Sandstorm (G1) | Sandstorm]]
* [[Jazz (G1) | Jazz]]
* [[Skids (G1) | Skids]]
* [[Jetfire (G1) | Jetfire]]
* [[Springer (G1) | Springer]]
* [[Chromedome (G1) | Chromedome]]
* [[Brainstorm]]
* [[Arcee (G1) | Arcee]]*
* [[Silverbolt (G1) | Silverbolt]]*
;Exclusives
* [[Roadbuster (G1) | Roadbuster]]
* [[Whirl (G1) | Whirl]]
;Combiners
* [[Superion (G1) | Superion]]*
{{!}}}

|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
{{{!}}border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:transparent"
{{!}}-
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
* [[Acid Storm (G1) | Acid Storm]]
* [[Thundercracker (G1) | Thundercracker]]
* [[Starscream (G1) | Starscream]]
* [[Tankor (BM) | Tankor]]
* [[Blackjack]]
* [[Megatron (G1) | Megatron]]
* [[Viper]]
* [[Dreadwing (G2) | Dreadwing]]
* [[Nemesis Prime (G1) | Nemesis Prime]]
* [[Breakdown (G1) | Breakdown]]
* [[Dirge (G1) | Dirge]]
* [[Thrust (G1) | Thrust]]
* [[Ramjet (G1) | Ramjet]]
* [[Jhiaxus (G2) | Jhiaxus]]
* [[Skullgrin]]
* [[Drag Strip (G1) | Drag Strip]]
* [[Skywarp (G1) | Skywarp]]
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
* [[Thunderwing (G1) | Thunderwing]]
* [[Scourge (G1) | Scourge]]
* [[Octane (G1) | Octane]]
* [[Straxus (G1) | Darkmount]]
* [[Doubledealer]]
* [[Cyclonus (G1) | Cyclonus]]
* [[Blitzwing (G1) | Blitzwing]]
* [[Barricade (WFC) | Barricade]]
* [[Megatron (Armada) | Armada Megatron]]
* [[Starscream (Armada)|Armada Starscream]]
* [[Nacelle (G1) | Nacelle]]
;Exclusives
* [[Runamuck (G1) | Runamuck]]
* [[Astrotrain (G1) | Astrotrain]]
* [[Black Shadow (Victory) | Sky Shadow]]
* [[Sunstorm (G1) | Sunstorm]]
* [[Slipstream (WFC) | Slipstream]]
;Combiners
* [[Menasor (G1) | Menasor]]*
{{!}}}

|h3=[[Mini-Con]]s|c3=
{{{!}}border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:transparent"
{{!}}-
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
* [[Windshear]]
* [[Runway (Generations) | Runway]]
* [[Heavytread (Generations) | Heavytread]]
;Combiners
* [[Centuritron]]
{{!}}}
|nonumbering=true
}}

<nowiki>*</nowiki> Characters that aren't in the game yet, but appear in promotional material.

==External links==
* [http://www.transformersbattletactics.com/ Official Website]

[[Category:Video games]]

Duobot

2015-02-27T13:16:52Z

MissRatbat: Another tidbit from Eugenesis.

{{Factions|autobot}}
:''The Duobots are an [[Autobot]] subgroup from the [[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Duobots Concept.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Shock and Ore. Or Ore and Shock. Whatever.]]

The '''Duobots''', [[Shock (G1)|Shock]] and [[Ore]], look pretty indistinguishable. Even though nobody can tell them apart and they ''seem'' like throwaway guys, they've done a lot of stuff!

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
The two Duobots made it through the war together, surviving the [[Battle for Hell's Point]], "the day it rained" on [[Babu Yar]], and the [[Simanzi Massacre]], where they braved the [[Crucible]]. They also had a prankster streak, having once welded [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl's]] hands together for a gag. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}} {{storylink|The Gloaming}}

The Duobots were members of [[Special Operations]] and reported directly to Prowl. One of their regular jobs was handling field agents like [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] and [[Getaway]]. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}} Along with [[Drift (G1)|Drift]], the Duobots were Prowl's agents aboard the ''[[Lost Light]]'', charged with attaching a [[slow cell]] containing [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] to the ship's hull and planting a tracer on its engines. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|How to Say Goodbye and Mean It}} {{storylink|Remembrance Day}} Ore went down into the engine room to carry out their second task as the ship was taking off from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], which unfortunately led him to be standing too close to the ship's [[quantum generator]]s when they activated. The resultant suspension of the local laws of space-time caused Ore to be fused with the engine, killing him and causing an explosion that crippled the ship. Hurled to some bleak corner of the galaxy, the ''Lost Light'' was able to put down on a small planet, where what was left of Ore's body was found by [[Brainstorm]] who remarked that, on the bright side, at least now they'd know which Duobot was which. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On‎|Hangers On}} Meanwhile, an amnesiac Skids crashed near the ''Lost Light'': his homing device had locked onto the Duobots, his nearest handlers. {{storylink|Remain in Light 4 of 5: Arm the Lonely|Arm the Lonely}}

Ore's passing was observed by [[Shock (G1)|Shock]], who then set about removing all incriminating evidence of their connection to Prowl, deleting the communication from him and heading down to the engine room to recover the discarded tracer. Unfortunately for Shock, he was set upon and killed by a [[Sparkeater (creature)|Sparkeater]] that had been hidden in the bowels of the ship. {{storylink|Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things}}

Some time later, Ore came back to life thanks to the "psychic scream" of a [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Metrotitan]]. Still fused to the engine and unaware of what had happened to him, he had a brief chat with [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] before disappearing together with the Metrotitan when it teleported away. {{storylink|Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|You, Me, and Other Revelations}}

The Duobots would be rather ignomiously remembered when Whirl described a batch of fallen attackers as being "deader than a Duobot". {{storylink|Finis Temporis: Dark Cybertron Chapter 9|Finis Temporis}}

==Notes==
*The Duobots were presumably created as an Autobot counterpart to the [[Duocon]]s, though with wheels on their legs and treads on their upper backs they don't appear to share that team's "air vehicle upper body combines with ground vehicle lower body" design scheme. Indeed, Shock's lament in "[[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|The Chaos of Warm Things]]" that he is now a "walking misnomer" might even suggest that instead of being two vehicles who form one robot, the Duobots are two ''robots'' who form one ''vehicle'', possibly making them the definition of the "duocombiners" mentioned in passing on MtMtE 10: Shadowplay, part 2, page 17. And, in the artist's version of "authorial intent" [[Alex Milne]] has confirmed on DeviantArt that he has designed a combined alt mode for the two, but is keeping it private for possible later publication.
*Conversely, when asked about the Duobots' combined mode in a [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=309202#309202 Q&A on the IDW forums] writer [[James Roberts]] replied: "In my head, the Duobots don’t combine – they’re more like clones. Sorry!" (That said, Roberts had previously used the term 'Duobot' in his fan novel ''Eugenesis'' to refer to cassette combiner [[Slamdance (G1)|Slamdance]].)
*As a product of the mind of British writer James Roberts, the fun double-meaning of Shock and Ore's names may not be immediately apparent to American readers. Try saying them out loud in a British accent.

[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:IDW Generation 1 subgroups]]

Talk:No Exit: Dark Cybertron Chapter 6

2015-02-22T13:35:44Z

MissRatbat:

== Sludge ==

So Sludge being with the Autobots is listed as an error here because he went back to the camp for reinforcements, but didn't he come back in between scenes in Chapter 2? I seem to remember him being in the final last pages of that chapter, along with a bunch of other generic Autobots, and he was also back with the Autobots in other chapters after that. --[[User:Sockie|Sockie]] ([[User talk:Sockie|talk]]) 16:54, 16 January 2014 (EST)
: The other characters call him "Snarl." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:05, 16 January 2014 (EST)

== Hardhead's death ==

So Nova Prime crushed his forcefield generator and he turned to dust in a matter of seconds. All fine and dandy, if it weren't for Cyclonus sitting behind him with a broken one and being just "tainted" and "claimed by the dead universe". Given how they both were previously in the dead universe, and the rebirth of Cyberton basically resetting their sparks/lives and whatnot, can anyone explain to me why one just bleeds dark energon and the other turns to dust?
::Well, first off, it's not as if the entire story has been told. But also, the Dead Universe is contracting rapidly at this point. Perhaps it has simply more severe effects to the exposed now. Or perhaps Nova Prime is able to exert some manner of control over it still. Like I said...story isn't over yet. --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] ([[User talk:Nu-Priest|talk]]) 22:42, 19 January 2014 (EST)

Ok, I suppose the story isn't over and there's still room for clarification, but I won't settle for the Dead Universe contracting rapidly because Hardhead and Cyclonus are there at the same time, so what happens to one must happen to the other as well. One could argue that the containment cube might alter the effects of this contration, but since they stood in it for just a couple of lines, I find the difference between bleeding dark energon and turning to dust a bit too big for that time window. I'll just settle with Nova Prime amplifying its effects until the story further develops.

:: I had read it as Cyclonus forcefield thingy being damaged compared to Hardhead's being completely destroyed. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 10:33, 15 May 2014 (EDT)

Talk:Finest Hour: Dark Cybertron Chapter 5

2015-02-22T13:33:14Z

MissRatbat: Don't think about language too hard.

'''Scrap vs Crap'''

Ok so who here honestly believes the T-Formers are using real swear words such as "Crap"(slang term for feces)? [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 11:16, 18 December 2013 (EST)

I'm pretty sure characters in IDW have used the term before. This isn't new. [[User:Sockie|Sockie]] ([[User talk:Sockie|talk]]) 11:18, 18 December 2013 (EST)
::Barber and Roberts have both been guilty several times in the last two years of using overly-human-y swear words from time to time. This just another of those times, though probably a slightly more incongruous one. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 12:31, 18 December 2013 (EST)
:::Besides, tons of other fiction has TFs using crap. The live action movies, for example. [[User:Escargon|Escargon]] ([[User talk:Escargon|talk]]) 19:27, 18 December 2013 (EST)
::::Picked it up on Earth? Though there's a lot about Transformer linguistics/etymology that doesn't hold to close scrutiny. Sometimes I wonder if Primus didn't somehow peek forward in time, borrow Modern English for a language, and be done with it. ;) --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 08:33, 22 February 2015 (EST)

== Ironhide? ==

The Ironhide/Nova Prime interaction doesn't make sense. Ironhide has no real knowledge of the events of Revelations and the whole Dead Universe thing as it was previously established that Ironhide has no memories from the early days of the war four million years ago until his resurrection by Alpha Trion in the Ironhide Mini-series (after the Autobots and the Decepticon SS foiled the Dead Universe crew's Expansion). Although I am sure someone brought Ironhide up to speed off-panel (especially in light of the events of Chaos), to me it seems the whole interaction between Ironhide and Nova is a little too familiar for someone who heard about Nova's "world-conquerin' nonsense for millions of years" from somebody else. {{unsigned|Epyon26|10:02, 19 December 2013 (EST)}}

:Given that he's characterised as an "old guy", with the post-Furman retconning of virtually everyone else to "more than four million years old", it's quite possible the current writers intend him to have been around when Nova and his coterie were in charge the first time "six million years ago". - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ([[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk]]) 10:02, 19 December 2013 (EST)

:Fair point. But even post-Furman, I feel that Nova was not really thought of as a "bad guy" prior to his leaving on the first Ark. Also, he wasn't really world-conquering but more seen as world uniting (See MTMTE 2012 Annual). Although, I do see what you mean, it isn't an out-and-out error. I think, to me, the dialogue is a little bit out of step for a character who heard about the Dead Universe after the fact. [[User:Epyon26|Epyon26]] ([[User talk:Epyon26|talk]]) 11:30, 19 December 2013 (EST)
::None of this is the point of what Ironhide is SAYING, though. He's making a quip about the fact Nova's just offering up some "argleblarg I'm evil" ranting, instead of something more impressive as would befit someone who's got a bit of experience. That doesn't require Ironhide have any knowledge of Nova or what he did or any kind of personal familiarity between the two - all it requires is that he know he was a bad guy who'd been bad for a good long time. He's making fun of his supervillain speechification because he's old enough to do better. That's all. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 18:09, 19 December 2013 (EST)
:::Yeah. This is a "You've had six million years to think up your conquering villain speech, and THAT'S the best you could come up with? You're no Ozymandias, pal." [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 19:36, 19 December 2013 (EST)

Transformers: Battle Tactics

2015-02-21T22:53:58Z

MissRatbat: Armada Megs was popped in this morning.

[[File:TransformersBattleTactics logo.png|center|500px]]
{{videogame
|title=''Transformers: Battle Tactics''
|image=TFBattleTactics_LoadingScreen.jpg
|caption=Arcee isn't in the game. [[Angry Birds Transformers (mobile game) | Déjà vu?]]
|developer=[[DeNA]]
|publisher=DeNA Corp
|date=[[January 30]], 2015
|platform=Android, iOS
}}

'''''Transformers: Battle Tactics''''' is a multiplayer battle game published by [[DeNA]] for mobile devices. It features over 75 characters designed after toys from different [[Generation 1 continuity family]]-based toylines, including [[Transformers: Classics | Classics]], [[Transformers: Generations | Generations]], [[Combiner Wars]] and [[Transformers Collectors' Club | Collectors' Club]]'s exclusives.

==Gameplay==
{{gamestub}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobot]]s|c1=
{{{!}}border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:transparent"
{{!}}-
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
* [[Cliffjumper (G1) | Cliffjumper]]
* [[Gears (G1) | Gears]]
* [[Junkyard (G1) | Junkheap]]
* [[Scoop (G1) | Scoop]]
* [[Bumblebee (G1) | Bumblebee]]
* [[Hoist (G1) | Hoist]]
* [[Wheeljack (G1) | Wheeljack]]
* [[Joyride (G1) |Joyride]]
* [[Optimus Prime (G1) | Optimus Prime]]
* [[Tailgate (G1) | Tailgate]]
* [[Swerve (G1) | Swerve]]
* [[Ratchet (G1) | Ratchet]]
* [[Powerglide (G1) | Powerglide]]
* [[Kup (G1) | Sergeant Kup]]
* [[Huffer (G1) | Huffer]]
* [[Warpath (G1) | Warpath]]
* [[Cosmos (G1) | Cosmos]]
* [[Windcharger (G1) | Windcharger]]
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
* [[Blurr (G1) | Blurr]]
* [[Red Alert (G1) | Red Alert]]
* [[Fireflight (G1) | Firefly]]
* [[Alpha Bravo]]
* [[Crosscut (Autobot) | Crosscut]]
* [[Nightbeat (G1) | Nightbeat]]
* [[Drift (G1) | Drift]]
* [[Side Burn (G1) | Sideburn]]
* [[Sandstorm (G1) | Sandstorm]]
* [[Jazz (G1) | Jazz]]
* [[Skids (G1) | Skids]]
* [[Jetfire (G1) | Jetfire]]
* [[Springer (G1) | Springer]]
* [[Chromedome (G1) | Chromedome]]
* [[Brainstorm]]
* [[Arcee (G1) | Arcee]]*
* [[Silverbolt (G1) | Silverbolt]]*
;Exclusives
* [[Roadbuster (G1) | Roadbuster]]
* [[Whirl (G1) | Whirl]]
;Combiners
* [[Superion (G1) | Superion]]*
{{!}}}

|h2=[[Decepticon]]s|c2=
{{{!}}border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:transparent"
{{!}}-
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
* [[Acid Storm (G1) | Acid Storm]]
* [[Thundercracker (G1) | Thundercracker]]
* [[Starscream (G1) | Starscream]]
* [[Tankor (BM) | Tankor]]
* [[Blackjack]]
* [[Megatron (G1) | Megatron]]
* [[Viper]]
* [[Dreadwing (G2) | Dreadwing]]
* [[Nemesis Prime (G1) | Nemesis Prime]]
* [[Breakdown (G1) | Breakdown]]
* [[Dirge (G1) | Dirge]]
* [[Thrust (G1) | Thrust]]
* [[Ramjet (G1) | Ramjet]]
* [[Jhiaxus (G2) | Jhiaxus]]
* [[Skullgrin]]
* [[Drag Strip (G1) | Drag Strip]]
* [[Skywarp (G1) | Skywarp]]
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
* [[Thunderwing (G1) | Thunderwing]]
* [[Scourge (G1) | Scourge]]
* [[Octane (G1) | Octane]]
* [[Straxus (G1) | Darkmount]]
* [[Doubledealer]]
* [[Cyclonus (G1) | Cyclonus]]
* [[Blitzwing (G1) | Blitzwing]]
* [[Barricade (WFC) | Barricade]]
* [[Megatron (Armada) | Armada Megatron]]
;Exclusives
* [[Runamuck (G1) | Runamuck]]
* [[Astrotrain (G1) | Astrotrain]]
* [[Black Shadow (Victory) | Sky Shadow]]
* [[Sunstorm (G1) | Sunstorm]]
* [[Slipstream (WFC) | Slipstream]]
;Combiners
* [[Menasor (G1) | Menasor]]*
{{!}}}

|h3=[[Mini-Con]]s|c3=
{{{!}}border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" style="background:transparent"
{{!}}-
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
* [[Windshear]]
* [[Runway (Generations) | Runway]]
* [[Heavytread (Generations) | Heavytread]]
;Combiners
* [[Centuritron]]
{{!}}}
|nonumbering=true
}}

<nowiki>*</nowiki> Characters that aren't in the game yet, but appear in promotional material.

==External links==
* [http://www.transformersbattletactics.com/ Official Website]

[[Category:Video games]]

Talk:Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5

2015-02-19T23:16:22Z

MissRatbat: Moons?

==Dinobots==
Why are Grimlock and the Dinobots affected? Shouldn't their creation on Earth have meant that the switch wouldn't affect them?[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 20:29, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
:If they were built using standard parts or designs derived from Cybertronian technology, the "kill switch" function may have been carried over. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 21:31, 14 April 2010 (EDT)
::Well they obviously deviate a little because the lack of [[Cybertonium]] doesn't seem to affect them.[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 16:29, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
:::But, they obviously don't deviate too much because the off switch still worked. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:37, 15 April 2010 (EDT)

:The same reason it affected Trypticon, even though he was built on Earth out of a human city. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:54, 15 April 2010 (EDT)
==Moons==
Is it really a 'continuity error' to show moons here? The narration to The Movie refers to 'two of Cybertron's moons', not 'Cybertron's two moons', so before Unicron came along, there were three or more. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 18:16, 19 February 2015 (EST)

Slag (slang)

2015-02-04T03:04:22Z

MissRatbat: G1 Slag didn't have a problem in the UK.

{{disambig3|Slag}}
"'''Slag'''" is one of the most versatile words in the Cybertronian vernacular. It is most commonly used as the general expletive, a use that originated during ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'', and it has caught on in most subsequent series. Its use is wide and varied:

*'''Exclamation:''' "Aw, slag!" (This form is the most common use of the word)
*'''Noun:''' "You sickening piece of slag!"
*'''Verb:''' "You got to be slaggin' me."
*'''Adjective:''' "Slaggin' Computer!"

It is therefore possible to build an entire sentence of this word:
*"Slaggit! The slaggin' slag-faced motha-slaggin' slagger slagged the slaggers."
[Provided you add "the".]

The term made its first appearance in the episode "[[The Immobilizer]]" of the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original series]] ([[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], when faced with the realization that the [[Autobot]]s are actually smart, said, "We should vaporize those Autobot fools and fuse their carcasses into slag!"). It was then used as an insult in "[[The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 2]]" of the original series ([[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] to the [[Hate Plague]]-infected [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]: "Die, you worthless piece of slag!", right before he became infected himself).

==Notes==
* The literal meaning of slag is 'a vitreous mass left from the refining of metallic ores'. It can also refer to this mass while in its molten state, which floats atop the ore. Therefore, slag is a waste product useful for building roads, fertilizing fields, ballasting track, and for a good solid round of cursing. On [[Madman Entertainment]]'s ''Beast Wars Season 1'' commentary track for "[[Other Voices, Part 2]]", story editor [[Bob Forward]] confirmed that this was the origin for the swear word.
* In British English, it's also slang for "[[wikipedia:Slag_(slang)|slut]]". Hmm. Showings of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'' in the [[United Kingdom|UK]] were on early morning magazine show GMTV, and the word was usually excised. ''[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Transformers Animated]]'' went without censorship for a while before first getting moved to 8:00 at night, and then to 5:30 with the slag lines (badly) edited out.
* Back in Generation 1, "[[Slag (G1)|Slag]]" was also the name of one of the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] and all was fine and dandy, including in Britain. In recent years, however, Hasbro's increased awareness of the international dual-meaning for the word has left "Slag" no longer viable as a Transformer name; consequently Generation 1 Slag and characters based on him have been known as "[[Snarl (Animated)|Snarl]]" or the similar-sounding "[[Slug (FOC)|Slug]]" in newer toylines and media. Subsequently, following ''Animated'', the use of "slag" as an expletive seems to have ceased, with the Transformers of ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' opting to use "scrap" as their insult of choice.

==See Also==
* [[Frag]]

[[Category:Curses]]

Talk:Powermaster

2015-01-29T08:00:06Z

MissRatbat: Cheeseburgers.

Um... G2 Power Masters. I assume we would at least need a disambiguation link, since the two are fairly different. In fact, might as well make a disambig PAGE, since there are also "Powered Masters" in existance, and that's close enough for confusion. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

== Filter? ==

The "technology" section talks about the Nebulons acting as energy filters. Does this come from somewhere? In People Power! they seemed to act as replacement power sources by eating cheeseburgers. I don't think the Nebulons were filtering poison cheeseburgers. The radiation only poisoned fuel. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:39, 11 November 2009 (EST)

== Toy Triggers by Faction... ==

It come up on Alspark today about the two different triggering methods used by Powermaster toys. Some trigger by the minifigure's crotch and some by their knees. Of the ones I had on hand to check, all the Autobots (Prime, Getaway, Joyride) were crotch-triggered and the Cons (Overlord, Dreadwing) were knee triggered. However I lack the other Powermasters right now to confirm if the division is indeed across the board by faction. If someone could confirm that, we could add the info here. --[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 14:18, 4 May 2010 (EDT)

== How many Whoppers? ==

I get what we are trying to do with the math in calculating how much food a Powermaster would have to eat, but I have some quibbles. Why would we assume that a super robot lifeform gets ''poor'' gas mileage? I would think Transformers would be high-tech enough to be more efficient than an average SUV. Plus, we don't ''really'' know how the Powermaster thing works. For all we know, it could be like [http://backtothefuture.wikia.com/wiki/Mr._Fusion Mr. Fusion.] - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:03, 1 June 2012 (EDT)

: Did any of those number-happy early bios ever give numbers for fuel efficiency? Anyway, I say leave that part in - even if the numbers were tweaked, it's still a fun note. --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 03:00, 29 January 2015 (EST)

== Toy Gimmick Compatibility ==

Are the smaller partners/engines fully compatible with all larger figures, faction specific, or pack-in exclusive? The Headmaster gimmick was universal, and the existence of additional Japan-exclusive individual-release Godmaster mini-figs suggests this as such, but individual toolings seem to disagree. Is there/should there be a section with this information? [[User:Hida Atarasi|Hida Atarasi]] 02:05, 30 November 2012 (EST)
:I do know that not all of the transformations quite triggered the same way, and thus not all Powermasters hit the correct buttons.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:19, 30 November 2012 (EST)

Functionism

2015-01-26T11:23:19Z

MissRatbat: Just a spelling.

{{faction|functionist}}
'''Functionism''', sometimes called '''Ratioism''', is a belief system and social structure where a Cybertronian's role in society is defined by their [[alternate mode]]. Trucks and construction vehicles are required to engage in manual labor employment, for instance, while a proton microscope would be allowed to seek out intellectual pursuits. Originally envisioned by [[Nova Prime]] as an orderly alternative to the wars preceding his rulership, functionism apparently reached an apex during the reign of [[Nominus Prime]].

Functionists often have a religious underlining to their beliefs, accepting that a forged alt-mode is the will of [[Adaptus]], the [[Guiding Hand]]'s god of forms and contemporary of [[Primus|Primus Lifegiver]] himself.

Functionism divides and classifies Cybertronians according to the [[Grand Cybertronian Taxonomy]], which ranks individuals based on the ubiquity or rarity of their alternate modes, with higher social standings provided for those with less common forms, and vice versa. The most common alternate modes, such as memory sticks and laser pointers, were lumped together under the [[Disposable class|disposable class]], who were harshly discriminated against. [[Beast mode|Beast]] transformers were treated only moderately better.

The specifics of functionism were determined by a [[Functionist Council]], though by the present day both the Council and the social structure it upheld are long gone.

==Fiction==
===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
Functionism became prominent on Cybertron in the last six million years, after the loss of the first ''Ark''. A Cybertronian's status was determined not only by the utility of their alt-mode, but also its scarcity. The more unique an alt-mode was, the higher a Cybertronian could climb in society, and vice versa. At one point, Cybertronians who transformed into memory sticks were so common, they were considered a "[[disposable class]]" and treated as little more than slaves. {{storylink|Before & After}} The only way out was to qualify for the [[intellectual class]] {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} or perform a task of note such as finding a [[Point One Percenter]] spark {{storylink|Remembrance Day}} and be declared alt-mode exempt. Other classes included the [[scientific class]] who transformed into laboratory equipment, and the [[manual class]]es consisting of miners, haulers and the like. {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}} [[Outlier]]s were persecuted under functionism due to not fitting in their neat categories, {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}} as was [[Rung (G1)|Rung]] when no-one could work out what his alt-mode was actually ''for''. {{storylink|Little Victories}} Cybertronians with non-humanoid robot modes were also looked down upon and treated as little more than beasts. {{storylink|Soundwaves (issue)|Soundwaves}}

Under unknown circumstances, functionism became a less totalitarian philosophy during the reign of Nominus Prime. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 1}} Functionist hardliners still existed, such as in the town of [[Petrex]] where complaining about one's alt-mode was punishable by prison. Elsewhere on Cybertron, though, it was acceptable to defy Adaptus and undergo full-body retrofitting to change alt-modes permanently... provided you had enough credits. For a more modest fee, [[Relinquishment Clinic]]s offered "body tourism", using sparkswap technology to let Cybertronians temporarily try out a different alt-modes from a "donor". {{storylink|Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|Post Hoc}}

Functionism labelled and categorized citizens by something beyond their control, and so it inevitably prompted a negative response. The [[Militant Monoform Movement]], who rejected Adaptus and their [[transformation cog]]s, may have arisen as a direct response to the dictates of functionism. {{storylink|Chaos Theory Part 2}} More famously, or perhaps infamously, [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] and the Decepticons got started as members of the manual classes rejecting the functionist doctrine of the Senate that restricted their place in society. {{storylink|The Transformers: Megatron Origin|Megatron Origin}}

====The Custom-Made Now====
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When [[Brainstorm]] altered the timeline, he created a Cybertron where the Functionist Council had slowly but surely conquered the planet: the intellectual class outlawed, disposable class unable to talk to their betters, [[Functionary]] enforcers on every corner, and [[obsolescence chip]]s planted in everyone's head so that when their [[theoconomist]]s agreed an alt-mode had no further use, the Council could issue a "[[mass recall]]". The laser pointers, the [[Lunabot]]s, and the [[data slug]]s (the [[theoconomist]]s ruled they had a purpose but they were a ''threat'' to the Council's rule) were among those exterminated. {{storylink|The Custom-Made Now - An Elegant Chaos Prologue|The Custom-Made Now}}

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Pinoy

2015-01-14T11:01:23Z

MissRatbat: I have experience in this area. Some people don't mind, some encourage it, but a few do find it offensive.

{{faction|decepticon}}
:''Pinoy is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

{{mainpic}}

'''Pinoy''' was a [[Decepticon]] leader. He is now honored by a statue in the [[Hall of Heroes]].

==Fiction==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
The statue of Pinoy was seen in the Hall of Heroes during [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s coronation. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

==Notes==
*"[[Wikipedia:Pinoy|Pinoy]]" is slang for a person of Filipino descent, which designer [[Floro Dery]] is. Unless you're Filipino yourself, be sure of your company before you use it.

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Talk:End of the Road! (US)

2015-01-12T14:01:17Z

MissRatbat: UK covers

There was a reason for the "Marvel US Comic" label. Marvel UK #259 has a story with the same name (the final UK-only story printed in the regular comic, actually). Here's a link to a page referencing this: http://www.tfarchive.com/comics/marvel/?s=uk_281_290 --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 18:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

: I know that exists, but the US story (being the final US issue and all) is better known so best candidate for the redirect to point to (ie what people intended to search for/link to), and a two side disambig up the top can be added when the UK issue article is added. Or my bored at work project today could be to repair the tags pointing to the redirect to point to US issue I guess... [[User:Cyc|Cyc]] 21:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
::Ok, then. My bad. [[User:Interrobang|Interrobang]] 21:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

==Nav link??==
Whoa whoa. I definitely don't think that the nav chain should connect stories by different publishers and writers like that. It's already a stretch to jump from one series to the next, but I think it's justifiable since there was only the one story at the time, and G2 was ''the'' continuation of the original series.

The other continuations are noted below the summary (though in an easy-to-miss format that I feel should be changed.) I don't think they need to be in the nav box. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 04:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

:Well, I asked about it in the channel, though admittedly only once. Nobody said anything. It seemed logical to me, and I had admittedly forgotten about Another Time and Place at the time. I figured, since the comicnav template allows for multiple strings, why not take advantage of it here? I suppose we could employ our "precidence" standards, as established in [[Help:Disambiguation|disambiguation policies]], to determine which two are listed. Or we could just modify the template. --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 05:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

==Nav box link to Joe/G2==
The successor Marvel comic series gets precedence because IT'S THE FREAKIN' MARVEL COMICS. It was a nationally, heavily distributed fiction, the ONLY original TF fiction of its time, in fact. The Joe/G2 stories are THE continuation of the US Marvel story, and they are a flagship storyline by default. To say that Fun Pub can come along 20 years later and make up this one little story, and suddenly make the original story sequence and order of publication invalid, is incredibly disingenuous. We don't break the nav chain from [[B.O.T.]] to TF:TM just because Kiss Players or Binaltech or whatever else came along. Fun Pub is playing in someone else's universe. Yeah, it's a subjective judgment. But it's a common sense one, and one of this Wiki's gratifying M.O.s is to [[Talk:Pat Lee|favor common sense]] over insane literalism on such matters. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

==UK printing==
I've long though that the two UK cover images here look as though they were swapped round. The first tells us OPTIMUS PRIME IS BACK in an issue he doesn't actually appear in, but he does appear in the other. The second is a (kind of) obscured image, teasing a return - a little closer to what the first part does. Is this just me and too subjective to note in the article, or have others noticed or had thoughts? --[[User:MissRatbat|MissRatbat]] ([[User talk:MissRatbat|talk]]) 09:01, 12 January 2015 (EST)

Angry Birds Transformers (mobile game)

2014-10-15T13:01:31Z

MissRatbat: Character designs.

{{Nav-ABTF}}
[[File:Angry_birds_transformers.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|It's happening.]]
'''''Angry Birds Transformers''''' is a mobile app developed and published by [[Rovio]]. It is a themed version of the developer's mega-popular mobile game ''[[Wikipedia:Angry Birds|Angry Birds]]''. The game features the "[[Autobird]]s" fighting alongside the "[[Deceptihog]]s".

== Synopsis ==
The Allspark Egg has landed on Piggy Island, transforming the angry birds and pigs into the Autobirds and the Deceptihogs. They begin to battle until another group, the Eggbots, attack them and take over the island. The Autobirds and the Deceptihogs team up and battle the Eggbots across the island, freeing captive allies that can be used in battle.

{{coming soon|when=October 15, 2014}}

== Featured characters ==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Autobird]]s
|c1=
* [[Optimus Prime Bird]]
* [[Bumblebee Bird]]
* [[Grimlock Bird]]
* [[Heatwave the Fire-Bot Bird]]
* [[Arcee Bird]]
* [[Ultra Magnus Bird]]
* [[Sentinel Prime Bird]]
* [[Jazz Bird]]
|h2=[[Deceptihog]]s
|c2=
* [[Megatron Pig]]
* [[Galvatron Pig]]
* [[Soundwave Pig]]
* [[Lockdown Pig]]
* [[Starscream Pig]]
* [[Stinger Pig]]
* [[Thundercracker Pig]]
* [[Bludgeon Pig]]
* [[Soundblaster Pig]]
* [[Brawl Pig]]
|nonumbering=true
}}
==Notes==
* According to Rovio's chief marketing officer, the game will "appeal to both those who grew up with the brand in the 80s, as well as fans of the brand today." Because that always works out swimmingly.
* Characters enter levels aboard [[Astrotrain]], regardless of if they are Autobird or Deceptihog.
* Several characters are reskins (that's computer for [[redeco]]) of each other. These sets include:
** Bludgeon, Brawl and Megatron
** Heatwave and Sentinel Prime
** Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus (yep, Magnus is a white Optimus)
** Soundblaster and Soundwave
** Starscream and Thundercracker
* Characters are drawn from a mixture of continuities. So far, [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]], [[Rescue Bots]] and [[live-action film series]]-inspired designs have been seen.

== External links ==
* [http://www.cnet.com/news/angry-birds-transformers-takes-wing-as-new-app-and-toys/ Angry Birds Transformers takes wing as new app and toys]
* [http://transformers.angrybirds.com/ Official Website]

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