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Treadbolt

2010-05-25T16:11:37Z

Mongooseman556: /* Trivia */

{{factions|autobot}}
{{disambig2|the Energon-series Autobot|the Generation 1 Autobot|Tread Bolt}}
:''Treadbolt is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Energon (franchise)|Energon]] portion of the [[Unicron Trilogy]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:EnTreadboltCardart.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Not Generation 2 Scavenger.]]
'''Treadbolt''' is big. And he has treads. And bolts.

==Toys==
===Energon===
*'''Treadbolt''' (Mega, 2004)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

[[Image:Energon Treadbolt toy.jpg|left|200px|thumb|STOMP STOMP STOMP STOMP]]
: A [[redeco]] of ''[[Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'' [[Scavenger (Armada)|Scavenger]], Treadbolt transforms into a large yellow bulldozer equipped with a rear roller drum. Unusual for Transformers toys of this era, Treadbolt features functional rubber caterpillar treads. His packed-in partner [[Rollbar (Armada)|Rollbar]] (in robot mode) can be placed inside the driver's cabin, and pressing down on the [[Mini-Con]] activates engine start up and revving sounds. Pushing Treadbolt forward will cause the large dark brown drum wheel at the back to rotate, making driving sounds.

: In robot mode, Treadbolt has virtually no leg articulation whatsoever. His legs are halves of the shovel blade clipped onto the dark brown drum wheel. Pushing him forwards in robot mode rotates the wheel, moving the legs up and down in a simulation of walking. Each 'step' is accompanying by a stomp sound effect. Moving his arms up and down activates a crashing metal sound effect. [[Powerlinx|Powerlinxing]] Rollbar to the active Powerlinx port on his right hip, then pulling it back fires a gray spring-loaded projectile, as well as activating a laser firing sound.

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==Trivia==
* Treadbolt, along with ''Energon'' [[Rapid Run (Energon)|Rapid Run]] and [[Ultra Magnus (Energon)|Ultra Magnus]], were "eleventh-hour" additions to the ''Energon'' line, with an incredibly accelerated production cycle. As such, each toy's packaging toy-photos show them in their original-release colors --in this case, Scavenger-- due to there apparently being little to no time to get a photo shoot established, and just using already-finished stock photographs.

* Reportedly, only about 10,000 of each of these three toys were made, a significantly smaller number than most retail ''Transformers'' toys. Ironically he was a big fat [[shelfwarmer]] of the energon range within the UK.

* As Treadbolt's card artwork is flipped from Scavenger's, his chest detailing is reversed, and his missile tube is on the wrong side of his body.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2004/Autobot/Treadbolt/treadbolt.htm Treadbolt at TFU.info]

[[Category:Autobots]]
[[Category:Energon characters]]
[[Category:Toy-only characters]]

Beast Wars (Part 2)

2010-05-25T14:58:04Z

Mongooseman556: /* Synopsis */

{{episode
|series=BWtoon
|ep=2
|title="Beast Wars" (Part 2)
|image=BeastWars2 clash.jpg
|caption="The energon is shorting out our depth perception!"
|production company=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|airdate=[[April 21]], 1996
|written by=[[Bob Forward]]
|directed by=[[Steve Ball]]
|animation studio=[[Mainframe Entertainment]]
|continuity=[[Beast Wars continuity]]
|packaged with=[[Optimus Primal/toys#Beast Wars Telemocha Series|Convoy]]
}}

'''After a battle between Optimus Primal and Dinobot, a huge cache of Energon is discovered.'''

:''French title:'' '''Animutants - 2<sup>e</sup> partie'''
:''French-Canadian title:'' '''Pilote 2''' ("Pilot 2")
:''Japanese title:'' 倒せデストロン (''Taose Destron'', "Beat the Destrons")
:''Polish title:'' '''Wojna bestii'''
:''Portuguese title:'' '''Beast Wars parte 2'''
:''Spanish title:'' '''La guerra de las bestias [Parte 2]'''
:''Latin-American title:'' '''Guerra de Bestias Segunda Parte'''
:''Italian title:'' '''Un nuovo compagno''' ("A new mate")

==Synopsis==
[[Image:BeastWars2 bridge.jpg|thumb|left|200px|I am the servant of the [[Allspark|secret fire]], wielder of the [[Matrix Flame|flame of Anor]]! The [[The Fallen#Dreamwave comics continuity|dark fire]] will not avail you, flame of [[Pit|Udun]]! Go back to [[Unicron|the shadow]]!]]
[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] challenges [[Optimus Primal]] to mortal combat for the leadership of the [[Maximal]]s. [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox ]] wonders if the rest of them get a say, while [[Rattrap]] is indifferent and [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] offers to nail the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] himself. Optimus tries to talk sense to Dinobot, saying he's welcome to join the group, but not as leader. Dinobot is unimpressed; the two duel. Rattrap has to restrain Cheetor from joining in. Primal knocks Dinobot down, and the Predacon tells him to finish the job, but Optimus refuses, and Dinobot responds by blasting him, almost sending the Maximal leader over the edge. Dinobot helps him back up, stating that Primal slipped and that winning the fight that way would not have been honorable.

As they continue to fight, [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and his crew arrive, taking the chance to attack both combatants. Primal transforms to beast mode, pulling Dinobot out of the way of the missiles, but leaving the pair dangling over the ravine. Dinobot begins suffering from energon buildup, and pleads with Optimus to let him fall so that Optimus might save himself, but Optimus naturally refuses. The pair is saved at the last moment by Rhinox. This is the signal for another attack from the Predacons, which takes out the rock bridge. The Maximals (bar Rattrap, who has to be saved by Optimus) reach the other side of the bridge in time.

[[Image:BeastWars2 maximals sight mountain.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]
Megatron takes his frustrations out on [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]], but [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] points to where some of the Predacon missiles have struck a mountain, unveiling a massive cache of [[Energon (fuel)|energon]] crystals. The Predacons set out for the mountain, but they're spotted heading for the energy crystals by the Maximals. Rhinox and Rattrap are ready to scrap Dinobot before starting out, but Optimus stops them. They set out for the mountain as well, though Rattrap is less than impressed with the news that Dinobot is coming too.

[[Image:BeastWars2 Dinobot Rattrap glaring.jpg|thumb|left|200px]]
En route, Rhinox suggests Optimus fly ahead using his jets, but Primal believes there's strength in numbers. They spot a strange [[Standing Stones|stone circle]], obviously artificially built, but are interrupted in their discussion by the arrival of Terrorsaur and [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]. Optimus takes to the air and scares them off with a missile. As the two Predacons flee, Dinobot fires on them with his [[Optic weaponry|optical lasers]], inadvertently blasting the ledge above them. Rhinox is forced to leap aside as a boulder comes crashing down on him, and Rattrap accuses him of intentionally trying to slag Rhinox. Optimus orders him to stand down.

[[Image:BeastWars2 Megatron and Optimus struggle.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Give me [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|your face]]!]]
The Predacons arrive at the mountain, though as [[Tarantulas]] points out, the energy will force them to remain in their beast modes. The Maximals arrive at roughly the same time, and both sides eye each other across a pass through the top mountain. After the prerequisite speech from Megatron, both sides charge and begin tearing into one another in beast form. Despite biting a chunk out of Optimus, Megatron is thrown aside and, as a last desperate gamble, transforms and fires a missile on Optimus. Dinobot throws himself between the pair, knocking the missile with his tail and saving Primal, but the missile begins a chain reaction. Both teams quickly flee.

As the Maximals watch the resultant explosions, Dinobot explains that his actions are payment of a debt—he owed Primal his life; now they are even. Primal says that's good enough for the moment, and proclaims that the [[Beast Wars (event)|Beast Wars]] have begun.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|h1=[[Maximal]]s|c1=
* [[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] (5)
* [[Rattrap]] (4)
* [[Optimus Primal]] (2)
* [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] (3)
|h2=[[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]]|c2=
* [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] (6)
* [[Tarantulas]] (9)
* [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (8)
* [[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]] (10)
* [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] (7)
* [[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] (1)
}}

==Quotes==
"I still live! Finish it."<br>
"That's not how we Maximals do things."<br>
"Then that will have to ''change!''"
:—'''Dinobot''' and '''Optimus Primal'''

"What are you doing? You'd won."<br>
"You slipped. To defeat you in such a manner would be lacking in honor. I would not have earned the right to lead. I prefer to beat my opponents the old fashioned way—BRUTALLY!"<br>
''[The two resume fighting]''<br>
"For a Predacon, Dinobot, you have qualities I could like."<br>
"And you, ahh, have proved to be a worthy adversary. I will have you recycled with full honors."<br>
"Well, that's. Just. Prime!"
:—'''Optimus Primal''' and '''Dinobot'''

"The energon fields! I am shorting out."<br>
"Hang on! You can't transform in this position!"<br>
"Release me! Let me fall and save yourself."<br>
"Now, where's the honor in that?"<br>
''[Optimus's hold on the rock bridge weakens]''<br>
"You have no choice."<br>
"Then we both go!"
:—'''Dinobot''' and '''Optimus Primal'''

"You're welcome."<br>
"You're the leader. It's your, ah, job."
:—A life-saving '''Optimus Primal''' and an ungrateful '''Rattrap'''

"Ease off, Rattrap! It was an accident."<br>
"Says you!"<br>
"That's right—says me! You wanna question my orders one. More. Time?"<br>
"I…ahhhh…ya, I don't trust Predacons."
:—'''Optimus Primal''' asserts command over '''Rattrap'''.

"Across the galaxy, it has come to this, Optimus Primal—face to face, tooth to claw. Yesss. Have you anything to say?"<br>
"I'd say that's prime. Let's do it."
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus Primal''', just before the big fight begins

"It is over, Megatron!"<br>
"It is ''never'' over. Noooo! For if I must die, I shall take you with me!"
:—'''Optimus Primal''' and '''Megatron'''

==Notes==
* During the audio commentary for this episode on [[Madman Entertainment]]'s ''Beast Wars'' Season 3 DVD, [[Garry Chalk]]'s cell phone suddenly rings, forcing him to step outside, while [[Scott McNeil]] and [[Alec Willows]] crack jokes about it being Garry's mom on the line.
* At the end of the episode, Megatron transforms without his command code. The Maximals do the same when the Predacon fliers attack on the way to the mountain. This is a rarity in the early episodes, but becomes commonplace as the series progresses.

===Animation or technical glitches===
* Waspinator's bee-stripes on his thighs are mapped along the wrong axis.
* As the Maximals start for the energon mountain and Rattrap is left behind if you look closely you'll see Optimus' legs are messed up
* Often, when the "energon mountain" appears in the distance, a large piece of energon in the foreground clips and flickers, making it appear as though the energon is appearing and disappearing at random.
* Though Megatron takes quite a chunk out of Primal's left leg during the final battle, the damage disappears when the Maximals retreat.

===Continuity errors===
* During the scene with Dinobot, in the background, the ''Axalon'' is missing from its crash site.

* When the Maximals and Predacons are charging towards each other in the big fight, it is established that all combatants were running almost side-by-side. Yet in each of the closeups of each combatant, it seems they are the only ones actually charging in the small crevasse.

* After the energon mountain explodes and the Maximals are seen ducking for cover, every shot showing Optimus Primal and Dinobot in the foreground features none of the other Maximals in the background, even though they were seen standing behind the pair moments earlier, and both Rattrap and Rhinox are seen when Rattrap thinks they have won. Oddly enough, Cheetor is no longer in the scene at all.

* The very same scene features a lot of rubble from the destroyed mountain in close-ups of Rattrap and Rhinox, but relatively little rubble when Optimus Primal and Dinobot are in the foreground.

===Plot errors===
* Scorponok directs Megatron's attention to the missiles approaching the mountain. The missiles then hit the mountain, revealing it to be full of energon. There's no reason to believe Scorponok knew the energon was there, so why did he ''care'' about the imminent impact of the missiles?
* Megatron deciding to destroy the mountain is...questionable. Though Optimus Primal managed to throw him into a rock face, Primal himself was down and crippled, while Megatron appeared ready to keep fighting.

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[Image:Flag of Canada.png|20px|Canada]] 1996 — ''Beast Wars'' — A Feature Length Beasties Adventure ([[Alliance Atlantis|Alliance Video]])<br>
[[Image:Flag of Canada.png|20px|Canada]] 1996 — ''Robots-Bêtes'' — Une Adventure Cybernetique (Alliance Video) — French audio only.<br>
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1997 — ''Beast Wars: Super Lifeform Transformers'' — Enter the Super Lifeform Transformers ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.<br>
[[Image:Flag of Canada.png|20px|Canada]] 1998 — ''Beast Wars'' / ''Robots-Bêtes'' Three pack (Alliance Video) — Available in English or French audio.<br>
[[Image:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2001 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Beginning: Vol. 1 ([[Universal]])<br>
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Volume 1 ([[Rhino Entertainment|Rhinomation]])
;Laserdisc
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1998 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Maximal Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — English and Japanese audio.
;DVD
[[Image:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2000 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — DVD Box (Pioneer LDC) — English and Japanese audio.<br>
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Volume 1 ([[Rhino Entertainment|Rhinomation]])<br>
[[Image:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — The Complete First Season (Rhinomation)<br>
[[Image:Flag of Canada.png|20px|Canada]] 2005 — ''Beast Wars'' — Classic Episodes — Where the Beasties Began! ([[Alliance Atlantis]]) — English and French audio.<br>
[[Image:Flag of Canada.png|20px|Canada]] 2005 — ''Beast Wars'' — The Complete First Season (Alliance Atlantis) — English and French audio.<br>
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2006 — ''Beast Wars: Transformers'' — Season 1 ([[Madman Entertainment]])<br>
[[Image:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers: Beast Wars'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment)

[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]
[[category:Beast Wars Telemocha Series]]
[[Category:MSTF]]
[[Category:Pack-in material]]

User talk:Mongooseman556

2010-04-03T19:39:05Z

Mongooseman556:

== Fair enough==

just found out i had an account... wow i was a right trouble maker ... ahh well... moving on to more mature times...

== blocked! ==
hi my ip adress is 80.4.224.10 im new to this an i do not realy know what to do but please unbolck my ip adress as my brother has been messing around and has "vandalised" but i do not know where.
The page said to talk to Suki Brits ,so please can u tell me what to do as this is all new to me thank you

ahhhhhhh help

Here is the blocked IP's handiwork:<br>
http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=80.4.224.10<br>
--[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

the only bits i actualy did was the broken link on underground page (fixing Drill Bit)
the rest was my brother thomas i truly am sorry for what he has done

== Not blcoked ==

Hi yer im unblocked so can u all just stop say in i am
-mongooseman556

You should read [[Transformers Wiki:User page]] to better understand why you shouldn't blank your user page. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:55, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

== Dark Glass images ==

Where did you find these images? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:27, 3 April 2010 (EDT)

Hi, yeah these were dug up on the internet a while back... i only just realised i still had them and i saw that there were no pictures on the page so i put them up. i hope thats okay?[[User:Mongooseman556|Mongooseman556]] 15:31, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
:I'm asking because I think it's a fan comic, which is not allowed on here. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 15:33, 3 April 2010 (EDT)
::It is a fancomic. The Nucleon reference added was also only from the fancomic, so none of it belongs here. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:34, 3 April 2010 (EDT)

oops sorry- thought i was doing good. it looks VERY convincing ... its an honest guys mistake[[User:Mongooseman556|Mongooseman556]] 15:39, 3 April 2010 (EDT)

Dark Glass

2010-04-03T19:32:00Z

Mongooseman556: /* Story significance */

"'''Dark Glass'''" was an unproduced episode planned for [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'']]' third season, written by [[Christy Marx]]. It was replaced by "[[Go with the Flow]]".

==Episode outline==
On [[February 17]], [[1999]], Transformers fan Joona I Palaste posted to [[alt.toys.transformers]] a brief summary of the plot which had been related to him by [[Larry DiTillio]]:
[[Image:Pg19.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Too many cooks to the dinobot?]]

''[[Rattrap]] salvages a computer bank from the [[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]] and in it's circuits he and [[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]] find the Core consciousness of the old [[Dinobot (BW)|DinoBot]] (which as you will recall DinoBot downloaded in a previous episode). Rattrap gets obsessed with the idea that he can restore the old DinoBot by getting it into the [[Dinobot II|new Dinobot]]'s systems. Rhinox tells him this will probably not work, as core consciousness without a spark is only an illusion of the person to whom it belonged. And if it didn't work, it just might give the new Dinobot all the old Dinobot's datatrax on the Maximals which could give the Preds and advantage. [[Optimus Primal|Optimus]] thus forbids the attempt. But Rattrap defies this order, sneaks out and at much risk to himself, does manage to get the core consciousness in place. For a moment the old DinoBot does seem to emerge but as Rhinox warned he is only a shadow of his former self and must do everything he can to keep the new DinoBot from regaining control of his body, a weird mental struggle which would have been fun to animate. The old Dinobot knows he is doomed to lose this struggle and tries to "sacrifice" himself again by infiltrating the Preds and taking out [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] before he can complete his master plan to destroy the AutoBots. It doesn't work and the New Dinobot regains control of his body only to be blasted by Megatron. Rattrap comes to accept that his old pal is truly dead and realizes he cannot bring him back. However he honors his friends memory.''<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/17d53fa556c3ac7c?dmode=source&hl=en Dark Glass summary on ATT]</ref>

==Details of rejection==
Word that the "Dark Glass" script had been rejected reached the fan community before the third season of ''Beast Wars'' even began airing. Rumors ran rampant that the script had been rejected for being "too dark", and this account was seemingly confirmed by DiTillio in an [[August 10]], [[1998]] post to ATT<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/b6d29cf8c43353d9?dmode=source DiTillio gives facts on the script on ATT]</ref> and by Marx in a [[November 16]], 1998 post to a ''[[wikipedia:Jem (TV series)|Jem]]'' mailing list.<ref>[http://jemlist.tripod.com/vol3askc.html#toodark "Ask Christy", Volume 3]</ref>

Several months later, on the same day that Palaste posted the plot summary, [[Jon Hartman]] also posted to ATT to say that [[Claster]], the series distributor, had rejected the episode because the story did not have enough action<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/4d506e88c7db00b1?dmode=source Hartman claims on ATT that Claster canned the show]</ref>. This statement is in moderate conflict with the earlier statements by parties closer to the events in question, but grimness and a lack of action could certainly go hand-in-hand. Additionally, Claster at this time was a subsidiary of Hasbro, so it possible that Hartman's claims are simply a more detailed description than had been provided by DiTillio or Marx.

Many years later, however, on [[Madman Entertainment]]'s 2006 Region 4 ''Beast Wars'' Season 3 DVD<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-115895.html (TFW2005 broken link about ???)]</ref>, the same Larry DiTillio said this:

''Q: Is it true that there was to be an episode called "Dark Glass" in season 3, but refused production by [[Hasbro]]?''

''A: No, this is actually not true. "Dark Glass" was rumored as a lost episode that was to feature Rattrap attempting to restore the original Dinobot's personality to Dinobot 2, and that when the episode was refused, "Go with the Flow" was made instead. The truth is that "Dark Glass" was written for season 2 and rejected by the story editors, not Hasbro, because the script was not up to standard. The script was replaced by "[[Transmutate (episode)|Transmutate]]", a great episode that was a better fit for season 2."''

Given that eight years had passed when he said this, it is likely that he misremembered the sequence of events. This account contradicts statements by himself and Marx, a sneak peek at the [http://www.electric-escape.net/tf/conventions/BotCon-98/Jon-Wilkie episode list <small>(broken link)</small>] for season 3 seen at [[BotCon 1998]], and the confusion surrounding the failed distribution of the script at Transcon III (see below). Therefore, the DVD account should be taken quite skeptically.

==Availability of the script==
{{quote|''Now if I get 1000 different E-mails saying that this script should NOT be given out because a few paranoid fans don't want their lives unravelled then I will burn it and never talk about it again and tell christy you think her work is trash and she should stop writing professionally...''|Dennis Barger|[[alt.toys.transformers|ATT]], [[August 31]], 1998}}

Although the episode was dropped from the schedule long before any animation or voice recording would have been done, the "Dark Glass" did have a full first-draft script written by Marx, which was then rewritten once by DiTillio, as stated in his post from August 10, 1998.

On [[August 29]], 1998, just a couple weeks after DiTillio explained the rejection, toy dealer Dennis Barger of [[Men in Black]] Collectibles—the organizers of [[BotCon 1996]]—posted to the thread to announce that he had acquired a copy of Marx's script from her. For his upcoming unofficial convention, Transcon III, he planned to place the original in a charity auction, and distribute reproductions to all attendees.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/09de29f3be95d9f8?dmode=source Announcement on ATT about the script distribution offer]</ref> Hearing concerns from fans, Barger later stated that he would have all recipients of the script sign non-disclosure agreements to prevent spoilers from being leaked until the third season had aired.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/a0f298132398c745?dmode=source Announcement on ATT about non-disclosure agreement for the script]</ref> (Transcon III was to take place in September 1998, while season three wouldn't even premiere until October.) However, as stated in Marx's ''Jem'' list post, and later summarized on ATT by [[User:Repowers|Rob Powers]]<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/rec.toys.transformers.moderated/msg/ab4c0a0d07cac1c1?dmode=source Repowers' ATT summary of the situation]</ref>, Barger had not obtained the proper approvals from Hasbro and/or Mainframe, and the whole affair fell apart. The script was returned to Marx. Furthermore, Mainframe decided that no scripts were ever to be released to the public again, and indeed, although scripts for seasons one and two of ''Beast Wars'' were available on [[Ben Yee]]'s website, those for season three and ''Beast Machines'' were never put up.<ref>[http://bwtf.com/bw/tvshow/episodes/seasonthree/ Ben Yee's Episode Pages (broken link)]</ref>

There was a sizeable interest in the script from fans, and Dave "Zobovor" Edwards even gathered over 500 signatures to a petition for the script's release, but he never received a response and by September 1999, he threw in the towel.<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/msg/194fe613938e7856?dmode=source Results of Zobovor's script release petition on ATT]</ref>

==Story significance==
Fans have extrapolated that this episode would have explained Dinobot's re-emerged personality in the show's final episode, "[[Nemesis Part 2]]".

In that episode, [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]], whose [[spark]] powered the Transmetal II clone of Dinobot, was killed, and his spark extinguished. At the same time, Dinobot II suddenly seemed to remember the last moments of the original Dinobot, and his behavior changed drastically; speaking of honor, he defied [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] and essentially switched sides (before dying again).

These events are difficult to explain, perhaps especially so without "Dark Glass". The Dinobot II body was a clone of the original Dinobot, but did not (as far as is known) possess his core consciousness, memories, engrams, etc. Rather, Dinobot II seems to have been a [[shell program]] written by Megatron running on top of a fragment of Rampage's spark. In this case, it is unclear why, in the absence of Rampage's spark, Dinobot II would suddenly act more like Dinobot I. However, if the events of "Dark Glass" are taken to have occurred off-camera, it becomes easier to understand: two shell programs and a spark all fighting for dominance over a single body. With the spark gone, the Dinobot I shell may have had an opportunity to take over.
[[Image:Pg18.jpg|right|330px|thumb]]

On the other hand, even with "Dark Glass", the picture is incomplete. Dinobot saw visions of the original Dinobot's last moments, his battle with the Predacons in the rift valley at the end of "[[Code of Hero]]". These memories could not have been part of the download Dinobot made into the ''Axalon'''s computer earlier in the season. For them to surface within him, they must have either been added to the datatrax he was programmed with (by either Megatron or Rattrap), or they must have come from Dinobot's own spark, if that spark somehow left the [[Allspark]] and inhabited the cloned body when Rampage's spark departed. All three of these possibilities have their share of implausibility, so it is up to each fan to pick an interpretation that they like to include in their [[personal canon]]. Also Megatron discusses wtih Inferno in this episode, the use of [[Nucleon]] as a possible virus. This foreshawdows the events of [[Beast Machines]].

==References==
{{Reflist}}

[[Category:Beast Wars episodes]]
[[Category:Unproduced scripts]]

User talk:Mongooseman556

2010-04-03T19:31:22Z

Mongooseman556: /* Dark Glass images */

2007-10-25T20:18:08Z

Mongooseman556: Undo revision 109267 by 66.130.161.244 (Talk)

{{disambig3|Devastator}}

''Constructicon Devastator is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Universe]] conflict.''

'''Constructicon Devastator''' is the sum of four Decepticons: [[Bonecrusher (Universe deluxe)|Bonecrusher]], [[Hightower (Universe deluxe)|Hightower]], [[Long Haul (Universe deluxe)|Long Haul]], and [[Scavenger (Deluxe)|Scavenger]]. Constructicon Devastator's personality, like that of his components, is unknown. It is also unknown what, if any, connection he has with the '''other''' Decepticon combiner named [[Constructicon Devastator (Micromaster)|Constructicon Devastator]] active during the Universe conflict.

==Toys==
===Universe===
* '''Constructicon Devastator''' (Combiner, Target exclusive, 2006)
: A [[redeco]] of the [[Robots in Disguise]] [[Landfill (RiD)|Landfill]], in [[Constructicon|G1 Constructicon]]-inspired colors. He was available only by purchasing two separate 2-packs, Bonecrusher & Scavenger and Long Haul & Hightower.

==Energon==
*'''Constructicon Devastator''' (Combiner, Toys R Us UK exclusive)
: Avilabile in UK Toys R Us stores, each seperatly packed.

Note- They were probably released under the energon banner as the Universe franchise was not released in the UK.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/UniConstructiconDevastator/constructicondevastator.htm Constructicon Devastator at TFU.info]

[[Category: Combined forms]]
[[Category: Constructicons]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Target exclusives]]
[[Category: Universe characters]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

User talk:Mongooseman556

2007-10-25T20:04:12Z

Mongooseman556: What part of dont undo understand

Devastator (Universe Ultra)

2007-10-25T19:35:12Z

Mongooseman556: /* Universe */ The uk does exist you know

{{disambig3|Devastator}}

''Constructicon Devastator is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Universe]] conflict.''

'''Constructicon Devastator''' is the sum of four Decepticons: [[Bonecrusher (Universe deluxe)|Bonecrusher]], [[Hightower (Universe deluxe)|Hightower]], [[Long Haul (Universe deluxe)|Long Haul]], and [[Scavenger (Deluxe)|Scavenger]]. Constructicon Devastator's personality, like that of his components, is unknown. It is also unknown what, if any, connection he has with the '''other''' Decepticon combiner named [[Constructicon Devastator (Micromaster)|Constructicon Devastator]] active during the Universe conflict.

==Toys==
===Universe===
* '''Constructicon Devastator''' (Combiner, Target exclusive, 2006)
: A [[redeco]] of the [[Robots in Disguise]] [[Landfill (RiD)|Landfill]], in [[Constructicon|G1 Constructicon]]-inspired colors. He was available only by purchasing two separate 2-packs, Bonecrusher & Scavenger and Long Haul & Hightower.

==Energon==
Avilabile in UK Toys R Us stores, each seperatly packed.

Note- They were probably released under the energon banner as the Universe franchise was not released in the UK.

==External links==
* [http://www.tfu.info/2006/Decepticon/UniConstructiconDevastator/constructicondevastator.htm Constructicon Devastator at TFU.info]

[[Category: Combined forms]]
[[Category: Constructicons]]
[[Category: Decepticons]]
[[Category: Target exclusives]]
[[Category: Universe characters]]<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

Talk:Arcee (Animated)

2007-10-25T18:30:39Z

Mongooseman556: New page: ==Toy== Would another motorbike Arcee be alright or have we had enough

==Toy==
Would another motorbike Arcee be alright or have we had enough<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

2007-02-28T17:28:18Z

Mongooseman556:

== blocked! ==
hi my ip adress is 80.4.224.10 im new to this an i do not realy know what to do but please unbolck my ip adress as my brother has been messing around and has "vandalised" but i do not know where.
The page said to talk to Suki Brits ,so please can u tell me what to do as this is all new to me thank you

ahhhhhhh help

the only bits i actualy did was the broken link on underground page (fixing Drill Bit)
the rest was my brother thomas i truly am sorry for what he has done<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>

User talk:Mongooseman556

2007-02-28T17:22:23Z

Mongooseman556:

User talk:Mongooseman556

2007-02-27T20:20:50Z

Mongooseman556:

User talk:Mongooseman556

2007-02-27T19:30:17Z

Mongooseman556: help!

User talk:Mongooseman556

2007-02-27T19:21:18Z

Mongooseman556:

harro#<div id="wikia-credits"><br /><br /><small>From [http://transformers.wikia.com Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki], a [http://www.wikia.com Wikia] wiki.</small></div>