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Talk:Airachnid (Prime)

2012-05-24T05:53:30Z

MrMunkeepants: /* Alt Mode */

It is written that "Unlike real spiders, Airachnid has compound eyes." 
Perhaps another feature that may distinguish her from spiders is that she walks on ''six'' legs, instead of eight (unless one counted her robotic legs as her 7th and 8th). [[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 12:15, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:I figured that since she keeps her arms in...alternate mode (can't really call it a beast mode) she has the necessary eight limbs. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 12:24, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:Great minds think alike SFH, I was also about to post that Airachnid's arms are the last set in her eight limbs. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 12:27, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
::Hmm, you're right. I never counted her arms as 7th and 8th leg, because... Well, they are arms and not legs. Anyway, I see your point. [[User:Sharky857|Sharky857]] 14:50, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

She turned into a drill at the end.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:57, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
:She used her legs to drill, she didn't transform into one. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:10, 17 April 2011 (EDT)
::Correct, she was still in her robot mode when she drilled. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:14, 17 April 2011 (EDT)

Can we put this somewhere in the article?: ''"Airachnid transforms from a spider-like robot to a robot-like spider."''
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 6:25 PM, 17 April 2011 A.D.

== Possible jet mode? ==

I saw what looked like two halves of a jet's cockpit on the backs of Airachnid's shoulders. Is that worth noting, or should it wait until we see that she actually has some sort of jet mode?
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:40 PM, 18 April 2011 A.D.
: Everyone seems to be pretty sure she's a helicopter. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:51, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
::That makes ''more'' sense!

::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:58 PM, 18 April 2011 A.D.

==G1 Insecticon colors?==

Can someone explain to me why this info should be on this page when it can't be proven this was an intentional homage?--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 23:56, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
: I kind of think the burden of proof is on you to prove that a Bug Decepticon in predominantly black with gold and purple is entirely by accident. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:03, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
:: A spider-like female decepticon with a color scheme which is '''specifically''' attempting to homage the 3 original male Decepticon insects? If she shared any design or character attributes with the Insecticons I'd find it more likely, but as is... I note it as a possibility. But I suppose mabye I'm just getting a little too concerned about getting an official source for the info. Actually, I'm surprised no one is arguing that they are Blackarachnia's colors.--[[User:Roni134730|Roni134730]] 00:53, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Blackarachnia is more purple and less black. I'd sooner believe Arachnid's colours to be a homage to the Insecticons... Even if I feel like raging that spiders aren't insects. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 01:48, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Airachnid has compound eyes like an insect's, though. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:36, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::Also there's the episode's pun about Jack and the "large insects" he has to swat at the beginning and end. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 08:48, 19 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Actually, purple was only introduced on Blackarachnia (character model-wise) with her Transmetal 2 form, and even then wasn't really a staple 'color' for her character until Animated. (Her Beast Machines form was magenta. Yeah, I said it.) [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 23:28, 14 May 2011

:Wouldn't Animated Blackarachnia be a much closer homage?[[Special:Contributions/24.13.125.86|24.13.125.86]] 01:33, 12 May 2011 (EDT)

==Three Modes==

Now that Airachnid's officially confirmed to have a helicopter mode, I believe it is ok to label her a 'Transformer with three modes'. Unless Hasbro officially labels her a Triple Changer.--[[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 02:47, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
: We still don't know if she abandoned the...spider alternate mode (can't really call it a beast mode) so I'd say we wait until we know for sure. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 12:17, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

==Image==
Instead of concrete Airachnid, shouldn't it be an image of her helicopter mode? [[User:Eire]] Jun 26 2011 14:40
: Yes, it definitely should. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:34, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
::Is there a reason we couldn't have both? This image is kinda funny, and I figure there will be many (better) opportunities to get a good shot of her altmode. Concrete-covered Airachnid, not so much. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 12:59, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
:::As a guy who's been trying to get altmode pics of people from Prime, I can tell you that no, altmode images are not really all that easy to get. Especially airborne ones. And, frankly, her acquiring her altmode is way more important to her appearance in this episode than a sight gag. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:16, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

==Alt Mode==

Anyone get what kind of attack heilo her alt mode is based on? Kinda reminded me of the cancelled RAH-66 Comanche http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAH-66_Comanche but it could be an attack helicopter currently in service. Possibly a European design as it certainly doesn't resemble the Apache or any of the Cobra variants. -annonimous 6/27/11 12:38 AM EST
: I'm guessing entirely made up, considering it has spider-web-shaped cockpit lines. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:52, 27 June 2011 (EDT)
:: I don't know. Immediately after I posted I went to the Crisscross page and it already said the same thing, that her alt mode appears to be based on a Comanche. The spiderweb pattern could be more of a decroative element to point to Airachnid's nature, which you clearly don't see when she's in her alt mode. My orignal thought when I first saw the episode was to try and find if there was a heilo named black widow, but I don't think there are any named after insects or arachnids. But the lines on the Comanche give it a deadly look, which would suit the character. - annonymous 6/27/11 2:35 AM EST
::: I agree that the resemblance is strong enough that it should be mentioned on her page; at the very least it will give interested persons a place to start when looking for reference

== Maleficent ==

I've removed the anon's claims that the ressemblance was fully intentional, but should that note be kept nonetheless? Seems like a bit of a stretch and it's normally more the rule to keep these kinds of notes to only what's intentional. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:38, 27 June 2011 (EDT)
:I think it should be removed. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 12:41, 27 June 2011 (EDT)

== Thumbnail of Airachnid's Vehicle Mode ==

You know, I've just recently saw Airachnid's Stealth Helicopter Mode on this site and it looked awesome. However, should anyone of you wish to make this image a thumbnail on the Airachnid's bio section of this site, could you possibly make one, so that we Transformers fan will get a chance to enlarge it in full resolution in order for us to give a very clear glimpse of what Airachnid's True Altmode will be like?

== The toy that the anons claime she'll have ==

Why do they think she'll have one? Was it rumoured somewhere I don't frequent? Is it out-of-context bollocks? Should this article be semi-protected (assuming that's the one that means "anon no-touchy")? Am I abusing the questions here? [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 07:28, 10 July 2011 (EDT)?
:Seeing as Hasbro applied for an Airachnid trademark.... [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 09:43, 10 July 2011 (EDT)
:I don't think it's been rumoured anywhere beyond Hasbro's trademark app (which ISTR was a while ago now?) but even if it has, obviously a rumour isn't good enough for a toy to be listed here. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:38, 10 July 2011 (EDT)

== Removal of Note section comment. "Compound Eyes" ==

Can I ask for the removal of the particular note on the section that says she has compound eyes? I removed it but someone placed it back

It is not accurate and I think it should be removed. Of course you can decide to leave it but it really is inaccurate.

1) Just because she has webbing in the eyes to show that effect does not mean they are true compound eyes.

2) To call them that.. well implies compound eyes. If you look up what compound eyes are you would understand this is indeed incorrect. Compound eyes implies just that. Her eyes are not segmented they are not on the sides of her head or extended outward. It is just an assumption and a poor one at that to include such a statement just because of a webbing design.

3) We have seen from her viewpoint and again this supports the facts they are not compound.

At the very least could it be changed up to say it resembles compound eyes?

I doubt anyone will change this up but thanks for at least reading this anyways.

(Sorry if I'm messing things up posting here. I am new and still learning the ways to post. {{unsigned|174.92.174.209}}
:Yeah, I don't think she has compound eyes at all. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:49, 21 October 2011 (EDT)

(Hey thanks a lot for the agreement and consideration for removal. =) )

== Insecticon? ==
okay so with the last episode and her control of the insecticon what kind of con is she decept or insect? [[Special:Contributions/108.38.164.252|108.38.164.252]] 23:46, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:She's both. The original insecticons were a sub group of decepticons {{unsigned|69.43.213.155}}
::I don't think we can say she's an Insecticon unless she's named as such onscreen or on packaging or somewhere. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:58, 3 May 2012 (EDT)

Talk:Bulkhead (Prime)

2012-05-24T05:47:08Z

MrMunkeepants:

When his pic is on the main page, it leads to [[Ironhide (Prime)]]! {{unsigned|TOM| 22:39, November 25, 2010 (EDT)}}
:Thanks! Fixed. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 21:50, 25 November 2010 (EST)
::Maybe in the Japanese version of Prime, Bulkhead will be renamed Ironhide for consistency with the other franchises. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 21:54, 25 November 2010 (EST)

==Wreckers==
Should we mention in the "Notes" that this is the first incarnation of Bulkead to be a Wrecker?-----[[User:XxxOUTBURSTxxx|XxxOUTBURSTxxx]] 19:22, 26 March 2012 (EDT)
: Again, we're not super-interested in "firsts." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:12, 26 March 2012 (EDT)

== Grammar, Spelling and Rewording ==

"Back on Cybertron, before he became a warrior, Bulkhead was a laborer, working in construction."

I'm no editor, but considering that the sentence only contained fifteen words I doubt it needed three commas. Here is a possible rewording:

"Before he became a warrior Bulkhead worked as a construction laborer on Cybertron."

I also spotted another sentence that could use some slight tweaking:

"However Bulkhead left the Wreckers early on in the war to join Team Prime however."

Nix that last however.

I could fill this page with all the changes I would like to make, but I'm not very good at differentiating between a change that improves the article and a change that only suits my personal preference.

--[[User:TheCritic|TheCritic]] 12:55, 6 April 2012 (EDT)
:The whole section needs trimming back too, really. Many of our Prime articles have ended up overlong. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:51, 6 April 2012 (EDT)
::And done. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:59, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

== Alt Mode ==
Does Bulkhead's vehicle mode resemble a Chevy Avalanche to anyone else? Is it a strong enough resemblance to add it to his description?

Talk:Arcee (WFC)

2012-05-24T05:43:29Z

MrMunkeepants:

==Unused image==

[[Image:PrimeArceebike.jpg|thumb|left|Boys prefer blue bikes.]]

== Quote ==

I suggest that her quote be "Can you build me a small intestine?" It's just the best thing she's ever said and will likely become the new "too many sonic booms" internet meme. Or I'm just weird.
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 10:24 PM, 3 February 2011 A.D.
: It's a great line, but not a great quote for her fiction section. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:44, 3 February 2011 (EST)
:I vote a quote from Optimus in Partners, probably the best out of the many Arcee-focused episodes in my opinion - '''"It is the external wounds which heal the quickest."''' In my opinion, it fits very well with Arcee and the introduction to this page. Arcee has been all about vengeance - against the Eradicons/Vehicons in Darkness Rising ("This! Is! For! Cliff!"); Airachnid of course; and in this episode, Starscream. Losing her partners has definetly shaken her to the core as the page notes. Ratchet can repair her at any time, or anyone can repair her. But nothing Ratchet or anyone can do can really heal the internal wounds overnight like repairs do to external wounds. Of course, this is exactly what Optimus means by this quote. But, I'd like to throw it in for consideration. -- [[Special:Contributions/76.186.90.217|76.186.90.217]] 01:35, 12 February 2012 (EST)

== Bubblegum Crisis joke? ==

Could we fit one in somewhere? {{unsigned|83.233.236.67|11:45, 18 March 2011}}
:Maybe when another, appropriate image is added. The current ones are fine as-is.
:Also, please sign your posts.--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:52, 18 March 2011 (EDT)

== Okay, I'll give. ==

What does Arcee mean?
[[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 15:46, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
: Race Cycle? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:55, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
::I mean, in the caption joke. I don't get it. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:37, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
:::I guess because it originally stood for "Race Car." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:41, 21 July 2011 (EDT)
::::Yeah, that was pretty much the intention of the joke, in that this Arcee "started out" as a race car in the videogame, which worked with her 'original' name, and then "became" a cycle in the cartoon. It's not a strong joke though (still better than the previous one), so if it doesn't work, I'd prefer to see it changed. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:20, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::Oh weird, I always thought RC stood for "radio controlled." I remember back in the nineties there used to be dozens of ads for "RC cars." -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 07:16, 22 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::It doesn't make much sense for her to be 'called' "radio controlled", unless there's some shocking background story of hers yet to be told. Personally, I've gotten to liking the idea her name comes from resistor–capacitor circuits, which doesn't tie her to an altmode. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 07:53, 22 July 2011 (EDT)

== Main pic ==

In the top picture of this article, Arcee is making the same pose [[Elita One]] is in her main picture. When they made that picture, was that what they intended?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.106.122|71.162.106.122]] 18:22, 4 March 2012 (EST)
: No. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:49, 4 March 2012 (EST)
:: So it's just a coincidence?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.106.122|71.162.106.122]] 19:26, 4 March 2012 (EST)
:::No, it's just your imagination. Those two poses aren't the same.--[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:06, 4 March 2012 (EST)

== Alt Mode ==
Arcee looks like a Suzuki GSX-R, which is typically 2045mm (6ft8.5in). Is the resemblance enough to add it to her page? Is the length relevant to discussing her scale?