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		<title>Talk:War for Cybertron: Siege</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Orangeitis: /* Siege Scale */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Hey guys! I’ve seen listings online on a voyager Megatron, should we add him to the list?&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:YourBestPal|YourBestPal]] ([[User talk:YourBestPal|talk]]) 17:45, 6 September 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It&#039;s one of the many listings actually. However, we should wait until either the listing (which should be an official affiliate of Hasbro) has pictures or Hasbro officially announces it. [[User:Notirishman|--notirishman]] ([[User talk:Notirishman|talk]]) 17:58, 6 September 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Wave 2 Deluxes==&lt;br /&gt;
...there can&#039;t be six in wave 2, can there?  Are all these confirmed, or are we just guessing on a few?  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 17:25, 31 October 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ironhide, Chromia, Prowl and Six-Gun are all confirmed wave 2. I think Brunt and Refraktor must&#039;ve been guessed, since I don&#039;t think they did a slideshow with wave numbers at NYCC? [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] ([[User talk:Jalaguy|talk]]) 19:24, 31 October 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: I was trying to find presentation slides of them but couldn&#039;t.  --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 21:23, 31 October 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Siege Scale ==&lt;br /&gt;
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https://youtu.be/cbFPQ4nrFiU?t=65&lt;br /&gt;
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In the video above, at that particular timestamp, John Warden explains that each size class(Deluxe, Voyager and Leader are mentioned specifically) are in scale with each other. This creates a unified scale in Siege. To calculate what that scale is, I used a post citing specific heights(in cm) for some of the first wave of Takara&#039;s Siege line.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/war-for-cybertron-2019-speculation-thread.1142465/page-268#post-16234019&lt;br /&gt;
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Then, I used the following page to compare their sizes to.&lt;br /&gt;
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https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Official_sizes_and_heights&lt;br /&gt;
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And calculated Siege&#039;s scale in at about 1:36-1:38.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Orangeitis|Orangeitis]] ([[User talk:Orangeitis|talk]]) 04:37, 8 November 2018 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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