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Sick Mind

2011-05-28T17:53:25Z

Paddles: /* Transformers references */

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 13
|prev=Predatory
|next=Out of His Head
|image=SickMind-OPinfected.jpg
|caption=Psychonautobots!
|title="Sick Mind"
|airdate=[[April 30]], [[2011]]
|written by=[[Steven Melching]]
|directed by=[[Shaunt Nigoghossian]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''When Optimus is infected by a Decepticon plague, Arcee and Bumblebee sneak aboard the ''Nemesis'' to find a cure.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Image:Cybonicplague.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Day one-thousand and one. We came in close contact with a hive today...]]
[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] reports that his scans have located the [[Nemesis (Prime)|Decepticon warship]] while experimenting with different frequencies. [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] thinks they should strike now, but Ratchet says he's also detected an [[Autobot]] emergency beacon, and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] decides they should check that out first. He and Ratchet arrive at a centuries-old crashed Autobot ship and venture inside. Though they expect there may be survivors, they find the crew already dead. Ratchet's scans reveal that the crew didn't die in the crash, but had succumbed to [[cybonic plague]]. As the ship shifts, a deceased Autobot hanging from the ceiling drips plague-imbued [[energon (fuel)|energon]] onto Optimus.

Later at [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|base]], Optimus lays stricken while the others discuss the situation. The plague was developed as part of the Decepticons' [[Decepticon Biological Warfare Program|Biological Warfare Program]], specifically by [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] himself, and Ratchet thinks they might be able to find information in the Decepticon databases. [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] [[GroundBridge]] onto the Decepticon ship and, narrowly hiding from [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]], enter the ship's laboratory. Inside, Arcee scours the database, but fails to find a cure for the plague. While she's doing so, Bumblebee stumbles on something just as important—the comatose body of Megatron! Arcee is ready to finish Megatron off then and there, but Ratchet has a better idea—enter Megatron's brain and retrieve the plague cure. Ratchet knows of a procedure to create a [[cortical psychic patch]]. Though such procedures have been banned by the Autobots for years, it will get them into Megatron's brain, and Bumblebee is willing to try it.

On the ship's bridge, [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] complains that the ship's electromagnetic shielding has not been fixed, and directs the [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]]s to hurry up and do so before the Autobots detect them. Afterwards Starscream has a private word with Knock Out, suggesting that the Decepticons deserve a leader who is conscious, and the pair come to an understanding whereby Knock Out will be Starscream's new [[second-in-command]].

[[Image:Megatron_WHY_IN_MY_HEAD.jpg|thumb|250px|right|He ''does'' [[Transform and Roll Out!|eat Autobot protoforms for breakfast]].]]
Arcee plugs Bumblebee into Megatron, and Bumblebee finds himself in a simulation of [[Kaon]]. Ratchet creates a communications downlink, so they can monitor what Bumblebee is doing. Bumblebee wanders though Kaon until he finds what appears to be Optimus, but is just a figment of Megaton's imagination. Megatron appears and slays the false Optimus, who dissolves into smoke. Another Optimus appears, and as Megatron fires his [[fusion cannon]], Bumblebee jumps in the path of the blast, only to find it passes right through him to slay the imaginary Optimus. Megatron, however, has seen Bumblebee and attempts to strike him, but his blows pass clean through the Autobot scout. While Megatron is trying to work out what's going on, Optimus, [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] and another Bumblebee appear, all figments of his imagination. Megatron destroys them, but begins to realize that he's in his own subconscious.

Arcee becomes anxious when Starscream, Knock Out and [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] enter the lab, though the two Autobots are hidden well enough that the Decepticons don't see them. Starscream is determined to put on a show for Soundwave, to convince his fellow Decepticon that Megatron is beyond saving. He and Knock Out attempt to persuade Soundwave that putting Megatron out of his misery is the best thing. Arcee and Ratchet overhear their conversation, and Ratchet says terminating Megatron will permanently separate Bumblebee's mind and body.

In the dream world, Megatron ponders what has happened to him, and finds out from Bumblebee about the [[space bridge]] explosion. Short on time, Bumblebee relays the news about Optimus's cybonic plague infection. Megatron is amused that after all this time Optimus will be felled by a virus, but Bumblebee plays on his desire to finish Optimus himself.

Starscream is about to pull the plug on Megatron when Soundwave points out the psychic patch cable. Starscream begins following it, as Arcee observes from her hiding place.

[[Image:SickMind-take me.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"The dream's collapsing!" Braaaahm. Braaahm.]]

Megatron briefly shows Bumblebee the formula for the virus cure, but will only share it if Bumblebee can release him from his mental prison. Unknown to Megatron, Ratchet can still see everything Bumblebee sees. Having ganked the formula, Ratchet tells Arcee to cut the link. Megatron's dream world begins to disintegrate and the Decepticon leader launches himself at the disappearing Bumblebee.

Bumblebee comes around as Starscream finds the two hidden Autobots, and, as they escape through the GroundBridge, Arcee blasts one of the cables attached to Megatron. Starscream is actually pleased that Megatron has flatlined as a result, but at Soundwave's insistence has Knock Out reconnect the cable.

[[Image:SickMind-I'm out.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Hmm... A [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] that gets [[Spark of Darkness|trapped inside]] a [[Diagnostic Drone|weaker bot]] after he was [[Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege|presumed deceased]]. That sounds familiar.]]
A newly-cured Optimus stands up and the Autobots celebrate, but Optimus insists the celebration should be for Ratchet and Bumblebee. On the Decepticon ship, Knock Out observes that Megatron is no longer exhibiting any brainwave activity — there's no one home. Unbeknownst to anyone, Megatron now resides in Bumblebee's head...
{{-}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (4)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (8)
*Autobot plague victims (9)

|c2=*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (10)
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (11)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]]s (12)
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (13)
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (14)

|c3=
*[[Jack Darby]] (5)
*[[Miko Nakadai]] (6)
*[[Raf Esquivel]] (7)

}}

==Quotes==

"Spiking hard, his sick mind still at work."
:—'''Arcee''' namedrops the title.

"I will NOT allow Optimus to pass knowing that Megatron will outlive him!"
:—'''Ratchet''', increasingly desperate to save Optimus.

"An inglorious fate that he should remain in this vegetative state..."
:—'''Starscream''' composes poetry about Megatron. [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sound]] [[Wheelie (G1)|familiar]]?

"You scratch my back, I scratch yours."
:—'''Starscream''' to Knock-Out, who evidentally doesn't remember what happened [[Speed Metal|the last time Starscream's claws got close to him]].

"If this is my subconscious... ''WHAT ARE YOU DOING INSIDE MY HEAD?!''"
:—'''Megatron''' unintentionally makes us laugh.

"Speak now, or forever hold your peace."
:—'''Starscream''' to Soundwave as the former is about to take Megatron off life support. And Soundwave STILL won't say a word.

"I'm out... or should I say ''in''?"
:—'''Megatron''' cackles as he awakes in Bumblebee's body.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical errors===

*When Knock Out says that there is no brainwave activity, one of the monitors next to Starscream shows brainwave activity in Megatron.

===Continuity errors===

*Since Megatron's dream was, presumably, taking place ''before'' the cortical psychic patch, why is it destroyed once the patch is broken? Shouldn't Bumblebee be the only thing in it to disappear?

===Transformers references===
*[[Kaon]], the Decepticon capital on Cybertron, was first mentioned in the Dreamwave ''Generation One'' comics.
*"One shall stand, one shall fall" is used for the [[Darkness Rising, Part 5|second time]] in this series.
*Megatron asks whether or not he "still functions".
*Megatron refuses handing over the formula for the cure to the plague unless Bumblebee helps him escape, or he will let Optimus [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime#The Transformers: The Movie| "fade to gunmetal grey."]]
*The first showdown between Megatron and an Optimus illusion is reminiscent of the [[title sequence]].
*As noted in the caption above, Megatron being stuck inside Bumblebee's body seems to be a Reference to the time that Beast Machines Megatron was stuck inside the Diagnostic Drone's body.

===Foreign dubbing===

===Real-world references===
*[[Cybonic plague]] is a reference to [[wikipedia:bubonic plague|bubonic plague]].
*Bulkhead says that Megatron is "pushing up lugnuts." This is a modification of the human phrase, "pushing up daisies," although it doesn't make much literal sense.
*Oddly enough, Starscream uses two common human phrases, both quoted above. Perhaps Soundwave gets cable?

===Trivia===
*The two offline Autobots on the plague ship were reminiscent of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Ironhide (G1) |Ironhide]].
*This episode was available to watch prior to its intended airdate on some cable providers' Video On Demand services.
*This episode marks Megatron's first speaking role since the end of the ''[[Darkness Rising]]'' mini-series.
*This is also the first episode to show Megatron using his [[fusion cannon]] outside of the opening titles sequence.
*"I'm inside your mind!" is a common fictional trope that ''Transformers'' fiction has explored in the past:
**In the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' episode]] "[[Other Voices, Part 2]]", [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] uplinks herself into [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]'s mind and wanders through his inwardly-imagined world before confronting his own psychic avatar. Tarantulas also manages to install himself into her mind as Megatron has done here.
**And from a less metaphysical perspective, the Autobots literally shrank themselves into microscopic size in order to walk around inside [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s brain in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 episode]] "[[Microbots]]".
*Starscream totally bitch-slaps a Vehicon.
*Megatron moves rather quickly in his dreams. After destroying the dream Optimus, Bulkhead and Bumblebee, and realizing its his subconscious, he takes barely a second to move from his position a few feet away to looming over Bumblebee.
*Megatron's voice has a surprisingly compassionate sound to it when he asks if "someone besides [him]self is unwell"... It's rather disturbing.
*Nobody transforms once in this episode.

==Home video releases==

==External links==

[[Category:Prime episodes]]

Sick Mind

2011-05-28T17:53:00Z

Paddles: /* Transformers references */

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Transformers: Prime]]'' ep 13
|prev=Predatory
|next=Out of His Head
|image=SickMind-OPinfected.jpg
|caption=Psychonautobots!
|title="Sick Mind"
|airdate=[[April 30]], [[2011]]
|written by=[[Steven Melching]]
|directed by=[[Shaunt Nigoghossian]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
}}

'''When Optimus is infected by a Decepticon plague, Arcee and Bumblebee sneak aboard the ''Nemesis'' to find a cure.'''

==Synopsis==
[[Image:Cybonicplague.jpg|250px|thumb|left|Day one-thousand and one. We came in close contact with a hive today...]]
[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] reports that his scans have located the [[Nemesis (Prime)|Decepticon warship]] while experimenting with different frequencies. [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] thinks they should strike now, but Ratchet says he's also detected an [[Autobot]] emergency beacon, and [[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] decides they should check that out first. He and Ratchet arrive at a centuries-old crashed Autobot ship and venture inside. Though they expect there may be survivors, they find the crew already dead. Ratchet's scans reveal that the crew didn't die in the crash, but had succumbed to [[cybonic plague]]. As the ship shifts, a deceased Autobot hanging from the ceiling drips plague-imbued [[energon (fuel)|energon]] onto Optimus.

Later at [[Autobot Outpost Omega One|base]], Optimus lays stricken while the others discuss the situation. The plague was developed as part of the Decepticons' [[Decepticon Biological Warfare Program|Biological Warfare Program]], specifically by [[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] himself, and Ratchet thinks they might be able to find information in the Decepticon databases. [[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] and [[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] [[GroundBridge]] onto the Decepticon ship and, narrowly hiding from [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]], enter the ship's laboratory. Inside, Arcee scours the database, but fails to find a cure for the plague. While she's doing so, Bumblebee stumbles on something just as important—the comatose body of Megatron! Arcee is ready to finish Megatron off then and there, but Ratchet has a better idea—enter Megatron's brain and retrieve the plague cure. Ratchet knows of a procedure to create a [[cortical psychic patch]]. Though such procedures have been banned by the Autobots for years, it will get them into Megatron's brain, and Bumblebee is willing to try it.

On the ship's bridge, [[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] complains that the ship's electromagnetic shielding has not been fixed, and directs the [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]]s to hurry up and do so before the Autobots detect them. Afterwards Starscream has a private word with Knock Out, suggesting that the Decepticons deserve a leader who is conscious, and the pair come to an understanding whereby Knock Out will be Starscream's new [[second-in-command]].

[[Image:Megatron_WHY_IN_MY_HEAD.jpg|thumb|250px|right|He ''does'' [[Transform and Roll Out!|eat Autobot protoforms for breakfast]].]]
Arcee plugs Bumblebee into Megatron, and Bumblebee finds himself in a simulation of [[Kaon]]. Ratchet creates a communications downlink, so they can monitor what Bumblebee is doing. Bumblebee wanders though Kaon until he finds what appears to be Optimus, but is just a figment of Megaton's imagination. Megatron appears and slays the false Optimus, who dissolves into smoke. Another Optimus appears, and as Megatron fires his [[fusion cannon]], Bumblebee jumps in the path of the blast, only to find it passes right through him to slay the imaginary Optimus. Megatron, however, has seen Bumblebee and attempts to strike him, but his blows pass clean through the Autobot scout. While Megatron is trying to work out what's going on, Optimus, [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] and another Bumblebee appear, all figments of his imagination. Megatron destroys them, but begins to realize that he's in his own subconscious.

Arcee becomes anxious when Starscream, Knock Out and [[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] enter the lab, though the two Autobots are hidden well enough that the Decepticons don't see them. Starscream is determined to put on a show for Soundwave, to convince his fellow Decepticon that Megatron is beyond saving. He and Knock Out attempt to persuade Soundwave that putting Megatron out of his misery is the best thing. Arcee and Ratchet overhear their conversation, and Ratchet says terminating Megatron will permanently separate Bumblebee's mind and body.

In the dream world, Megatron ponders what has happened to him, and finds out from Bumblebee about the [[space bridge]] explosion. Short on time, Bumblebee relays the news about Optimus's cybonic plague infection. Megatron is amused that after all this time Optimus will be felled by a virus, but Bumblebee plays on his desire to finish Optimus himself.

Starscream is about to pull the plug on Megatron when Soundwave points out the psychic patch cable. Starscream begins following it, as Arcee observes from her hiding place.

[[Image:SickMind-take me.jpg|thumb|left|250px|"The dream's collapsing!" Braaaahm. Braaahm.]]

Megatron briefly shows Bumblebee the formula for the virus cure, but will only share it if Bumblebee can release him from his mental prison. Unknown to Megatron, Ratchet can still see everything Bumblebee sees. Having ganked the formula, Ratchet tells Arcee to cut the link. Megatron's dream world begins to disintegrate and the Decepticon leader launches himself at the disappearing Bumblebee.

Bumblebee comes around as Starscream finds the two hidden Autobots, and, as they escape through the GroundBridge, Arcee blasts one of the cables attached to Megatron. Starscream is actually pleased that Megatron has flatlined as a result, but at Soundwave's insistence has Knock Out reconnect the cable.

[[Image:SickMind-I'm out.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Hmm... A [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] that gets [[Spark of Darkness|trapped inside]] a [[Diagnostic Drone|weaker bot]] after he was [[Sparkwar Pt. III: The Siege|presumed deceased]]. That sounds familiar.]]
A newly-cured Optimus stands up and the Autobots celebrate, but Optimus insists the celebration should be for Ratchet and Bumblebee. On the Decepticon ship, Knock Out observes that Megatron is no longer exhibiting any brainwave activity — there's no one home. Unbeknownst to anyone, Megatron now resides in Bumblebee's head...
{{-}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=*[[Ratchet (Prime)|Ratchet]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (Prime)|Optimus Prime]] (2)
*[[Bumblebee (Prime)|Bumblebee]] (3)
*[[Arcee (Prime)|Arcee]] (4)
*[[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] (8)
*Autobot plague victims (9)

|c2=*[[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]] (10)
*[[Megatron (Prime)|Megatron]] (11)
*[[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]]s (12)
*[[Starscream (Prime)|Starscream]] (13)
*[[Soundwave (Prime)|Soundwave]] (14)

|c3=
*[[Jack Darby]] (5)
*[[Miko Nakadai]] (6)
*[[Raf Esquivel]] (7)

}}

==Quotes==

"Spiking hard, his sick mind still at work."
:—'''Arcee''' namedrops the title.

"I will NOT allow Optimus to pass knowing that Megatron will outlive him!"
:—'''Ratchet''', increasingly desperate to save Optimus.

"An inglorious fate that he should remain in this vegetative state..."
:—'''Starscream''' composes poetry about Megatron. [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sound]] [[Wheelie (G1)|familiar]]?

"You scratch my back, I scratch yours."
:—'''Starscream''' to Knock-Out, who evidentally doesn't remember what happened [[Speed Metal|the last time Starscream's claws got close to him]].

"If this is my subconscious... ''WHAT ARE YOU DOING INSIDE MY HEAD?!''"
:—'''Megatron''' unintentionally makes us laugh.

"Speak now, or forever hold your peace."
:—'''Starscream''' to Soundwave as the former is about to take Megatron off life support. And Soundwave STILL won't say a word.

"I'm out... or should I say ''in''?"
:—'''Megatron''' cackles as he awakes in Bumblebee's body.

==Notes==
===Animation or technical errors===

*When Knock Out says that there is no brainwave activity, one of the monitors next to Starscream shows brainwave activity in Megatron.

===Continuity errors===

*Since Megatron's dream was, presumably, taking place ''before'' the cortical psychic patch, why is it destroyed once the patch is broken? Shouldn't Bumblebee be the only thing in it to disappear?

===Transformers references===
*[[Kaon]], the Decepticon capital on Cybertron, was first mentioned in the Dreamwave ''Generation One'' comics.
*"One shall stand, one shall fall" is used for the [[Darkness Rising, Part 5|second time]] in this series.
*Megatron asks whether or not he "still functions".
*Megatron refuses handing over the formula for the cure to the plague unless Bumblebee helps him escape, or he will let Optimus [[The many deaths of Optimus Prime#The Transformers: The Movie| "fade to gunmetal grey."]]
*The first showdown between Megatron and an Optimus illusion is reminiscent of the [[title sequence]].
*As noted in the caption above, Megatron being stuck inside Bumblebee's body seems to be a Reference to the time that Beast Machines Megatron was stuck inside the Diagnostic Drone's body

===Foreign dubbing===

===Real-world references===
*[[Cybonic plague]] is a reference to [[wikipedia:bubonic plague|bubonic plague]].
*Bulkhead says that Megatron is "pushing up lugnuts." This is a modification of the human phrase, "pushing up daisies," although it doesn't make much literal sense.
*Oddly enough, Starscream uses two common human phrases, both quoted above. Perhaps Soundwave gets cable?

===Trivia===
*The two offline Autobots on the plague ship were reminiscent of [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] and [[Ironhide (G1) |Ironhide]].
*This episode was available to watch prior to its intended airdate on some cable providers' Video On Demand services.
*This episode marks Megatron's first speaking role since the end of the ''[[Darkness Rising]]'' mini-series.
*This is also the first episode to show Megatron using his [[fusion cannon]] outside of the opening titles sequence.
*"I'm inside your mind!" is a common fictional trope that ''Transformers'' fiction has explored in the past:
**In the [[Beast Wars (cartoon)|''Beast Wars'' episode]] "[[Other Voices, Part 2]]", [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]] uplinks herself into [[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]'s mind and wanders through his inwardly-imagined world before confronting his own psychic avatar. Tarantulas also manages to install himself into her mind as Megatron has done here.
**And from a less metaphysical perspective, the Autobots literally shrank themselves into microscopic size in order to walk around inside [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s brain in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 episode]] "[[Microbots]]".
*Starscream totally bitch-slaps a Vehicon.
*Megatron moves rather quickly in his dreams. After destroying the dream Optimus, Bulkhead and Bumblebee, and realizing its his subconscious, he takes barely a second to move from his position a few feet away to looming over Bumblebee.
*Megatron's voice has a surprisingly compassionate sound to it when he asks if "someone besides [him]self is unwell"... It's rather disturbing.
*Nobody transforms once in this episode.

==Home video releases==

==External links==

[[Category:Prime episodes]]

User talk:Paddles

2011-05-28T17:44:39Z

Paddles:

{{preview}}

==I repeat==
You may have missed this on your old talk page, so I repeat it here. Keep a limit on your user page edits. Make it as fancy as you want, but please do not lose focus of why you signed up. You signed up because you want to edit the wiki. User pages are not part of the wiki. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 13:43, 28 May 2011 (EDT)
:OK. [[[[User:Paddles|Paddles]] 13:44, 28 May 2011 (EDT)]]

Talk:Transformers: Prime (cartoon)

2011-05-28T17:39:23Z

Paddles:

== Disambig ==

Should this page be disambiguated from the [[Transformers 2010 (franchise)]] page? [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:28, 9 December 2009 (EST)
: I think so, yes. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:21, 10 December 2009 (EST)

== Character list ==

Forgive me for being overly cautious, but since it's been stated that Michael Bell has auditioned for the roles of Ratchet and Fowler, can we begin a preliminary character list? - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:38, 14 December 2009 (EST)

:I'm okay with that as long as we are foolishly optimistic enough to leave Optimus Prime and Megatron OFF the character list until confirmed. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:46, 14 December 2009 (EST)
::HAHAHAHAHA!!!!--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:52, 14 December 2009 (EST)

:::EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT WILL BE FOR NAUGHT, THE VERY CONCEPT FILLS MY HEART WITH GLADNESS. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:03, 14 December 2009 (EST)

::::Maybe, for the same reason, the character list should just be "characters" and not presume to put them in "Autobots", "Decepticons", and "Humans". Who knows? There could be Maximals! - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:10, 14 December 2009 (EST)
:::::Or Unicron's Heralds, for that matter! --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 12:46, 14 December 2009 (EST)
::::::Malignus, Mutants, Throttlebots, Spacebots, Spacecons... -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 16:26, 14 December 2009 (EST)
::::::Unicron, would I love a set of stories focussing mainly on the Chaos Bringer's faction. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 16:49, 14 December 2009 (EST)
I'm tempted to say that we shouldn't include Bumblebee on the list just yet because we don't know 100% that the yellow robot on the Hub logo is Bumblebee, but I seriously doubt that anybody would toy around (no pun intended) with the general looks of a popular Transformers character (though that would be an awesome twist). - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 15:29, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

==Titling==
Shouldn't it be "Prime (cartoon)", considering our stupid rule of removing "Transformers" from article titles? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:01, 6 February 2010 (EST)

:[[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|Nope]]!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 02:04, 6 February 2010 (EST)

::I thought the reason we went with "Transformers Animated" is because there was no colon, and therefore "Animated" wasn't a subtitle? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 02:08, 6 February 2010 (EST)

:::I honestly don't recall there being a colon in just about any TF title. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)

::::We make exceptions for phrases. This isn't one. I mean, we even had a big ado over moving the ROTF article to be without the "Transformers". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 02:13, 6 February 2010 (EST)

:::::"Transformers Animated" is much a exception, so it go with the full name. If the title is "Transformers: Prime" when it start airing, I will vote for the "Prime (cartoon)". --''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]''04:09, 6 February 2010 (EST)

== Hub picture ==

Now that we got the logo for 'Transformers: Prime', should we get rid of the Hub logo? I say we do, but I wouldn't object to holding on to it until we get an image solely of Bumblebee. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 07:53, 3 May 2010 (EDT)
:There's room, so we might as well keep it for now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 08:00, 3 May 2010 (EDT)

== Can we get this article locked if it hasn't been already? ==

I expect a number of (mostly anonymous) editors may attempt to follow a relatively new TFW2005.com staffer's lead and paste in an unverified, uncited cast list from Wikipedia into this article. Thanks. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 14:12, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
:I personally disagree with locking this article. The show should be debuting within the next six months or so, therefore I imagine Hasbro will give us some tidbits of information (not to mention actors' websites, like [[Jeffrey Combs]]). However, if this article does get locked until a later date, I won't make a big deal out of it. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 23:36, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
::It's only blocked against editing by unregistered users. If an unregistered user has a legit piece of info to be added, they can always use the talk page to bring it up. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:45, 7 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Or register and then add it directly. (They should still provide citations/links for proof if need be, of course.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 05:12, 8 May 2010 (EDT)

== Continuity ==

Might just be me, but shouldn't we place this under "War For Cybertron" continuity or something? Apparantly, it follows the game (or at least the prequel comic, according to the page itself.

-ThiAthEhn
:I'm still not clear on where [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] got that from, since it's uncited. We really need to wait and see before we make a decision. Plus if WFC and Prime are in the same continuity, an argument could be made to place WFC in the Prime continuity rather than the other way around.--[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:14, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
::Ask Walky. [[Talk:Dion#Dion is Jazz?|He assured me that the link between WfC and ''Prime'' has been confirmed]], but just didn't mention where or when. That's why I added the {{tl|fact}} tag, so that he or someone else could cite it. - [[User:Magnus Maximus|Magnus Maximus]] 05:45, 12 May 2010 (EDT)
:::Aha! I see! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 06:19, 12 May 2010 (EDT)

So isn't the "link" with WfC just speculation from someone working at TFWiki? There's no citation, and should not be under "CONFIRMED news." --[[Special:Contributions/75.28.55.135|75.28.55.135]] 21:37, 9 June 2010 (EDT)

:I believe Walky said it came directly from the Hasbro reps at toy fair. If so that's confirmed enough for me. And if it turns out to be wrong... eh, we'll know for sure in two weeks at Botcon anyway. That's soon enough to just wait and deal with it then. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 22:31, 9 June 2010 (EDT)

== Chartacter list ==

If It's not Bumblebee, who '''''CAN''''' it be?[[User:TOM|TOM]] 11:08, 16 May 2010 (EDT)
:Yellow Cliffjumper, Bumper, Hot Shot, Armada Sparkplug... it's ''likely'' that it's Bumblebee, but there are other people that look like him. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 11:21, 16 May 2010 (EDT)
::Or a brand new character. I'm very certain that it is Bumblebee, but the producers may blow our minds and say, "Hey, you know your buddy, Bumblebee? Well, he's actually (place bad guy name here) in disguise. Remember Longarm Prime in ''Transformers Animated''? Btw, TOM, to add a comment to a topic, just hit the edit button on top of the page and place your comment below the last comment. You can use colons in front of your statement to space it from the margin. You're learning the ropes and I'm glad you're making an honest effort to benefit this wiki, so don't give up. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 13:28, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

==New continuity family!==
Hey, remember when I said WFC/Prime is probably Primax? Well, I lied! After BotCon's flurry of information I think it's going to have to be its own thing. Not only because, well, it deserves to be, but because it will make our lives a lot easier and our pages a lot clearer. Back when the movie came out, we also considered making THAT G1, but declined when we realized the sheer amount of material and focus would make it impractical. The same here. Also, comments from Aaron Archer put the new continuity in perspective.

He ALSO doesn't like calling it "Prime," since that's not what he wants to call it, but it's all we got at the moment. He doesn't have a name for this new continuity (family), but is trying to think of one eventually. So, uh, in the meantime, I think we're stuck with calling it "Prime." Dem's the breaks until we get a time machine and can ask 2012 Aaron Archer or whatever. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:01, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah, EVERYTHING was already pointing in the way of a new continuity family, so I'm glad the wiki now has the green light to separate this stuff. Not that that will spare me from redoing certain location articles, but it's at least a lot easier. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:58, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:P.S., do Demolishor (WFC) and Slipstream (WFC) have to be moved now? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 11:59, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::Optimus Prime (Prime)? Reminds me of [[Cyclonus (Armada)]]. Anyway, looks like we're going to have to fix a lot of links and move a fair bit of information related to the War for Cybertron pages. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I concur completely. This seems very much like a new continuity, albeit with very strong G1 and Movie influences, though the Unicron Trilogy and Animated get some characters and ideas dropped in as well.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:22, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::::As I said on [[Transformers: War for Cybertron]] ":I'm beginning to wonder if the "G1 continuity family" is heading towards collapse under its own weight. I'm not sure there will ever be another franchise that isn't "terribly G1y" in the future. The discussion a few years back about whether Movie and Animated belonged in their own continuity families, the synthetic nature of the Hall of Fame bios, the integration of Mini-Cons into G1 universes, all point towards a blending effect in TF universes." --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:42, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

While Archer may not like calling it "Prime," that ''would'' seem to be the parenthetical if we follow the same protocol we did for the Unicron Trilogy. Franchise of origin and all. Alternately, we could tag all of them (WFC) if they first appeared in that game, but that doesn't seem quite right.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:46, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:Then we'd wind up with another Shattered Glass/Timelines situation where it really made no sense why some were tagged one way and some another (at least not to the more casual fan). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:50, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::Exodus had the same street-date as WFC, didn't it? I know we're having this discussion simultaneously on Allspark, which... probably isn't a good idea.... but I suggested "EWP" as a suffix until something better comes along. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 13:02, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::I would suggest using either "Prime", "WFC" or "Exodus" (only one of them though!) until something clearer comes along. "EWP" just seems needlessly confusing. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:12, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::::I tend to think (Prime) is the best suffix we'll get, since we normally use franchise and Prime seems like the most likely candidate to be the franchise name. Exodus and WFC are definitely not franchises, but Prime might be. Of course, one wonders what will happen if Hasbro decides to completely move away from the concept of franchises... --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 13:14, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::According to the TFormers.com BotCon report, Aaron Archer said Hasbro wasn't planning on doing TF:Prime toys. And, for that matter, we know there ''are'' WFC toys, so at the moment WFC actually looks more franchisey. But that having been said, I still vote for "(Prime)" across the board because that's almost guaranteed to be the most prominent, central, and dominant element of this continuity. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 13:43, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::Aaron Archer said he "wasn't there to talk about toys," but the fiction/show/cartoon. I think this statement was being misconstrued. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:44, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Ah, thanks for clarifying. That did seem like an odd decision on Hasbro's part. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 13:48, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::Aaron's wording was poorly-chosen. He really did say something like "right now there isn't a toyline," and of course he could only have meant it as a figure of speech to cover what he was willing to talk about during that 20 minutes and not that there actually isn't a toyline. It's impossible that there wouldn't be a toyline. You don't make a CGI toy commercial without them. --Thy, not logged in.
:::::::::Or it could have meant that the details weren't ready for a public reveal or that the figures would simply be released as part of the unsubtitled "Transformers" line. Lots of ambiguity. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:15, 29 June 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the toys just ended up in the general ''Transformers'' line, which would make TF:Prime about exactly as franchisey as WFC. Still, like I said above, even if there WEREN'T any toys I would still lean towards "(Prime)" for its likely real-world dominance. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 14:33, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

:::"Prime" will be good. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 13:54, 29 June 2010 (EDT)

::Has anybody tried to mock up a Prime (franchise) page that could explain how the Prime TV show, WFC videogame and Exodus novel are related and give a comparison/contrast to other franchises? I think I've got an idea what's going on, but I'd like to see a coherent write up from someone who has seen the actual materials. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:01, 11 July 2010 (EDT)
:::I don't know if the "Prime (franchise)" page would be the best place for that. That would be for the cartoon stuff and related toyline. But we need a continuity page, like [[Movie continuity]]. Based on the [[Hasbro Q&A/September 2010|September Q&A]] we could call it the "modern continuity". That's what Hasbro called it. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 18:19, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
::::Because it's "modern" as in HAPPENING NOW, not as if it was a proper noun! Calling it "Modern" would be astoundingly dumb. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:21, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
:::::Are you calling Hasbro dumb? That's what they called it. For better or worse "modern" is sometimes used like that. "Modern architecture" doesn't mean the style of architecture right now. I have a "modern continuity" page ready. I almost pressed "save page" but I checked the recent changes and found this. We need a continuity page anyway. I think I will hit save before I go to bed. It can be moved. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 23:47, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
::::::Do you understand the difference between lower and upper case letters? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:54, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
::::::Tell you what, we'll resume this conversation when you learn what "context" means. And your "Modern (franchise)" page will be deleted. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:56, 1 November 2010 (EDT)
:::::::Not "modern (franchise)". "Modern continuity", as in [[:Category:Continuities]]. I din't think it was a proper noun anymore than [[movie continuity]] is. You can delete it, I suppose. Or, if it is a good page, you could rename it whatever you want. Like "War for Cybertron/Exodus/Prime continuity". - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 00:07, 2 November 2010 (EDT)
::::::::I thought it was a good page. Probably did need to be moved to a better name. But then it was deleted. Um, oh well? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:58, 2 November 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::I saved it as a text file. I could reload it under a different name if anyone wants. Just let me know what name. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:14, 2 November 2010 (EDT)

==Timeline==
Transformers.com timeline: [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/play/details.cfm?guid=841a4def-19b9-f369-104f-c8d8dec0c2ce]
It's basically the story from ''Exodus'' with Sentinel Prime exchanged for Zeta Prime, with screenshots from the game. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:10, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

== Sue Blu gone? ==

I saw news notes from Comicon saying something about Susan Blu no longer working on the show. Does anyone know if she's gone completely or just stopped working one one part of the show. --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 07:31, 24 July 2010 (EDT)
:Yeah I updated that awhile ago, forgot to mention it here. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 18:35, 6 August 2010 (EDT)

A [http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117944113/ review by Variety] (worry not; no spoilers) gives quite a few bits of information on credits, and it mentions Sue Blu as the voice director. So, what? Did the reviewer make a mistake or did she come back? I'd say we should just wait until the show airs, but I thought I might as well bring it up. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 23:33, 24 November 2010 (EST)

She's credited as voice director for the first two episodes. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 07:13, 29 November 2010 (EST)

She's infact credited for the first five episodes. -- [[User:Anythingspossibleforapossible|Anythingspossibleforapossible]] 02:37, 1 January 2011 (EST)

== David Hartman as both the supervising director and art director ==

taken from his DAblog: http://sideshowmonkey.deviantart.com/journal/33585161 not sure if it's "news," but it is more confirmed staff. - {{unsigned|128.208.61.72}} 01:56, 2 August 2010

== Move? ==

The Hub's press release render the title without a colon [http://hubworld.com/press-100806-talent.htm][http://hubworld.com/shows-detail.htm#panel-8], should we move all Prime-related articles or are we happy just writing it our way? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 13:01, 19 August 2010 (EDT)

== Air date ==
Isn't a bit premature to announce that it'll air on this year's Black Friday? I mean, true, the TV listing there says so, but they are subject to change. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:35, 22 October 2010 (EDT)
:Not to fear. I changed it from "will air" to "is scheduled to air". - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:53, 22 October 2010 (EDT)

== Wrong! ==

This page has incorrect information!! This takes place in the movie universe for 1. 2, It only has five episodes for the whole series as it is a MINI series. It has nothing even close to related to the War for Cybertron game. Sadly, I can't fix this because the page is LOCKED. :( [[User:Jman98|Jman98]] 05:16, 13 November 2010 (EST)
:No, ''you're'' the one who is incorrect. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 05:17, 13 November 2010 (EST)
::Jman, atleast wait until you see the show first before making these presumptions. While you wait, read the 'Exodus' book. - [[User:Zadok Rox|Zadok Rox]] 09:55, 13 November 2010 (EST)
: You are exactly the reason this page is locked. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:51, 13 November 2010 (EST)
: Don't believe, go to this link ---> [http://www.hubworld.com/transformers/shows/prime/videos/sneak-peek] --[[User:Jman98|Jman98]] 14:44, 13 November 2010 (EST)
:: Yeah, we've been. Try again. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:05, 13 November 2010 (EST)
::: Okay, I just read the Exodus book, sorry for causing trouble. Now I know that WFC and PRIME are linked. --[[User:Jman98|Jman98]] 12:09, 14 November 2010 (EST)

== Protecting ==

Since Seibertron has posted details of the first two episodes, should we protect this page against anon editing to minimise spoilers? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:59, 22 November 2010 (EST)
:It appears to already be protected. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 21:12, 22 November 2010 (EST)
::A quick spate of protecting individual character articles will also not go amiss. I could really go for not having this blown for me before Friday. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:19, 22 November 2010 (EST)
:::I've protected the episode titles as well, because creating a new page means the text shows up in Recent Changes. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:31, 22 November 2010 (EST)

==Episode 1 Credits==
Have fun.

[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds01.jpg 01] [http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds02.jpg 02]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds03.jpg 03]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds04.jpg 04]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds05.jpg 05]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds06.jpg 06]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds07.jpg 07]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds08.jpg 08]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds09.jpg 09]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds10.jpg 10]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds11.jpg 11]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds12.jpg 12]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds13.jpg 13]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds14.jpg 14]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds15.jpg 15]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds16.jpg 16]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds17.jpg 17]
[http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b288/monzo/PrimeCreds18.jpg 18]

And, yes, these were obtained on the up-and-up. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 18:35, 25 November 2010 (EST)
:Do you have the writer/director credit for the episode (would presumably have been displayed at the start) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:59, 25 November 2010 (EST)

==Promo Vehicle images==

Can these be dropped from articles and replaced with screenshots? [[User:Eire]] 2 Dec 12.35 (GMT)

== Help! Paradox! ==

Could someone please explain to me how War For Cybertron fits in the Prime Universe. I have a whole list of paradoxs:

*Megatron:In WFC, he was a tank, while in Prime, he was a jet. In WFC, Megatron new how to control dark energon, and used it often, but in Prime, he did not fuse it with his spark until he arrived on Earth.
*Starscream: First, his color scheme is different, in WFC, he is G1 like, but in Prime, he is movie like. Also, in The Darkness Rising Part 2, Starscream acted as if he hadn't came in contact with Dark Energon, but heard about it. However, the WFC Starscream knew exactly what Dark Energon does, and wants to learn how to weild it.
*Soundwave: Soundwave in WFC is like G1, with Laserbeak, Rumble, Frenzy, however in Prime, he is quiet, doesn' talk much,
(and even then, he just repeats recordings of what others have said) and only has 1 drone (Ratbat, i beleive his name is now.
*Ratchet:Rachet in WFC new what Drak Energon was, for it was alover Cybertron and Optimus pointed it out. In Prime, though, he says Dark Energon is so rare, its existence is doughted.
*Bumblebee:In WFC, he can talk and has a mouth, but in prime, he cannot talk. (Similar to his movie version.)
*Cliffjumper: In WFC, heis basicallya retool of Bumblebee, but in Prime, he is his own mold.
*Arcee: In WFC, she is like er G1 counterpart (and is a pink car), but the prime version is more like the movie version, and somewhat of a ninja. (And is a blue motercycle.)
*Dark Energon: In WFC, it was said it corrupts and destroys. But in Prime, it has the power to revive the dead. It is all over cybertron in WFC, and heck, even the Core of Cybertron is corrupted with it. But in Prime, it is apperently "so rare", how was it found on cybertron? Better yet in WFC, why was it being manufactured? (WARNING!!! SPOLIER ALERT!!! SPOLIERS UP AHEAD!!! STOP READING IF YOU DON'T LIKE SPOILERS!!!! WARNING!!!) and Prime, why is Megaton trying to ressurct ever dead cybertronian on Cybertron? Couldn't he have just done that in WFC?

Some clarification would be great. Also, I know the whole "Scanning alt mode" thing could change the way they look, but in the Prime comic,they still look the same in Cybertrnian form. Please help clarify some things.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 10:02, 3 December 2010 (EST)

:''Could someone please explain to me how War For Cybertron fits in the Prime Universe.'' It doesn't. They're part of the same continuity family, but not one singular continuous universe. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 10:39, 3 December 2010 (EST)
::I want someone to please explain to me how someone being a different altmode in the past is a paradox. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:42, 3 December 2010 (EST)
:::No need to get rude ItsWalky. I was just saying, what reason did he have for changing his form. You don't have to be rude about it. As for you KilMichaelMcC, thank you, I must have confused the two. Sorry.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 16:43, 3 December 2010 (EST)
::::We don't need a reason. Characters changing their altmode is not some strange new thing that's unique to Megatron (Prime). G1 Megs went from gun to cannon to nothing to tank, back to gun, sometimes a car... UT Megs went from tank to spaceship to dragster/jet triple changer to... dinosaur. And Movie Megs has been both a tank and a jet. And all this is beside the point that we have been handed down an official reason in WFC Megatron's tech spec bio. Read the notes at the bottom of Megatron (Prime)'s article. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:50, 4 December 2010 (EST)
:::::You forget that all those times he had a reason. G1 Megatron was changed due to Cobra Commander. UT Megatron changed because he was brought back to life a few time and movie Megs was ressurected using parts of other decepticons. And there is always the to sell toys reason. But I don't know If you read my comment but I tried to end this whole paradox conversation. Ok, I confused something big whoop. You don't have to act like a jerk saying "I want someone to tell me how having a different alt mode in the past is a paradox." Why don't you just ban me from this sight because I said that he had an new alt mode in the past. I was asking a question and you came in with your little ego trying to show off that you need to know that little statement. My god, I thought this site would be full of TF fans, not people trying to piss off other by deleting info they type because of one mistake instead of correcting it themselves, and other people like you trying to prove other users wrong. And why the heck can't we have pictures without a serious caption, we are preatty much the only wiki that does that so why do we? Because we rather get a laugh then information? By the pit.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 11:57, 6 December 2010 (EST)
::::::As an impartial observer Walky didn't say anything rude at all, he mearly pointed out a flaw in your premise in fairly neutral language. You seem to be flipping out over nothing here. If you don't like it here(or are bothered exessively by the humorous captions that are here to stay) you don't need to stay. But stay or go, acting like a child over literally nothing isn't a great way to make friends.--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 12:15, 6 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::I am not trying to make friends here. I tried, but apparently I am someone who can't sign posts, tried to correct a statement about daleks and failed, and someone who steals information from sets and wikipedia. It is not the site I have problems with, it is the people.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 11:29, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::As a person here who has been nice to you in the past, I think you are being overly sensitive here. You were given a reminder to sign posts, the Dalek thing was explained to you as being beyond the scope of this wiki and the "news" you posted from sets and wikipedia were removed because they were unconfirmed (thus against policy). Read the various help pages and follow the rules and you will be as welcome here as anyone. Continue your persecution complex, and people WILL get upset with you. And, again, Walky was simply pointing out your mistaken use of paradox. No conversation can occur if people aren't clear on terms. Your examples are not paradoxes, merely contradictions. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:10, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::Hate to be rude here, but a paradox does not just have to do with time. It can mean contradictions.[[Special:Contributions/166.109.0.45|166.109.0.45]] 11:28, 8 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::Only if those contradictions are in the same thing at the same time. Two separate things contradicting each other is not a paradox. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:44, 8 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::You know what, you are right. I did over react, and I assumed Walky was trying to be rude here. Me apologies. I am sorry.[[User:LordDalek|LordDalek]] 11:30, 8 December 2010 (EST)

==Animation studio question==
So... It's [[wikipedia:Polygon Pictures|Polygon Pictures]] that's animating, not Digitalscape? --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 04:44, 24 February 2011 (EST)
:There's probably more than one animation team. Anyone want to check the credits for each episode? [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 15:02, 24 February 2011 (EST)

::It's Polygon Pictures. Digitalscape is just a recruiting agent doing recruiting on behalf of Polygon. {{unsigned|219.109.211.26}}
:::Thanks for the tip. I've rewatched "Darkness Rising" and noticed it is Polygon. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 10:04, 7 March 2011 (EST)

== Refer to the Main Autobot Cast as Team Prime? ==

The main Autbot Cast has been refered to as Team Prime a few times in the series.[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 01:45, 27 February 2011 (EST)

== Edit war brewing ==

Once again about a caption, this time regarding the cast promo image. So to [[User:Detour|Detour]] and [[User:TOM|TOM]], the caption will be dated in October, so I propose leaving it until then, perhaps to a new caption about how odd it was there appeared to be ''six'' main Autobots... [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 18:24, 16 March 2011 (EDT)
:There's a link to the toyline at the top of the page. I don't think the caption needs another one to explain it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:50, 16 March 2011 (EDT)

== Removing a note ==

Because this statement by Hasbro "Continuity. Present day, after "movie" type events. Autobots on earth,hiding." does not mean the same thing as this note by us "*Though part of the [[aligned continuity family]] with the ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|War for Cybertron]]'' fiction, the show's immediate Earth-set backstory is meant to be "[[live-action film series|post-movie]]". Hasbro is saying that the backstory is movie-ish, not that it is the movie. Which is what our note said. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:22, 24 March 2011 (EDT)

== Divide & Conquer ==

The episode 13 listing, "Divide & Conquer", is actually a episode of G1 airing on the Sunday after the "Predatory" episode airs. It also hasn't been given a description, even though the "Sick Mind" episode has. It's clearly the G1 episode, and not one of TFP's episodes. {{unsigned|72.23.116.251}}
:Have you got a source for that? I've been keeping my eyes on the show listings, because I've suspected that what you'd said is the case, but I haven't found a listings source which goes up to Sunday the 17th. If you can point to some listings showing the G1 Divide and Conquer on that day, I'd be grateful! --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:55, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::Not sure if it'll be proof enough, but MSN's listings are generally reliable (http://tv.msn.com/tv/series-episodes/transformers-prime/?sb=0&si=1&ipp=25). Divide and Conquer airing the day after Predatory first airs is a dead giveaway. It's still odd that it's part of the TFP episode guide, but it just wouldn't make sense to release two new episodes so close to each other like that.

Oddly enough, the Hub isn't playing the G1 episode that day either. I wonder where MSN got that listing from. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:34, 11 April 2011 (EDT)
: "Divide and Conquer" showed up recorded on my Tivo under the "Transformers Prime" directory. It was the G1 episode. As if we needed further proof. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:36, 11 April 2011 (EDT)

== Universal Cluster ==

I've been trying to think of a name for the [[Universal stream|universe cluster]] for this and [[Transformers: War for Cybertron]]. So far I've come up with Alignus, but that sounds retarded. Anyone have any ideas? [[[[User:Paddles|Paddles]] 13:32, 28 May 2011 (EDT)]]
:This is not the place for fan fiction. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 13:37, 28 May 2011 (EDT)
:Nevermind. Just forgot. [[[[User:Paddles|Paddles]] 13:39, 28 May 2011 (EDT)]]

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2011-05-28T17:04:52Z

Paddles:

He only cares for [[Paddles (character)|Paddles]], every body that turns into a [[dinosaur]](which includes [[Airazor (BW)|birds]]!), [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]], [[Rubber Ducky]] and ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]''. Oh, and [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|mirror universes]].
He wonders why no one goes to sleep on this wiki. He also doesn't care about all that [[FIRRIB]] crap and thinks it varies between [[Universal stream]].

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T16:59:26Z

Paddles:

He only cares for [[Paddles (character)|Paddles]], every body that turns into a [[dinosaur]](which includes [[Airazor|birds]]!), [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]], [[Rubber Ducky]] and ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]''. Oh, and [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|mirror universes]].
He wonders why no one goes to sleep on this wiki. He also doesn't care about all that [[FIRRIB]] crap and thinks it varies between [[Universal stream]].

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T16:58:58Z

Paddles:

He only cares for [[Paddles (character)|Paddles]], every body that turns into a [[dinosaur]](which includes [[Airazor|birds]], [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]], [[Rubber Ducky]] and ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]''. Oh, and [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|mirror universes]].
He wonders why no one goes to sleep on this wiki. He also doesn't care about all that [[FIRRIB]] crap and thinks it varies between [[Universal stream]].

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T09:22:41Z

Paddles:

He only cares for [[Paddles (character)|Paddles]], every body that turns into a [[dinosaur]], [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] and ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]''. Oh, and [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|mirror universes]].
He wonders why no one goes to sleep on this wiki. He also doesn't care about all that [[FIRRIB]] crap and thinks it varies between [[Universal stream]]

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T09:22:17Z

Paddles:

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T07:43:55Z

Paddles:

Universal stream

2011-05-28T07:31:45Z

Paddles: /* Officially-designated universal streams */

{{disambig3|Universal}}
The Transformers [[multiverse]] consists of at least 15,962,782 cataloged '''universal streams''' (1,176,325 of which have "come to termination"), according to the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] Cybertronians' exhaustive records.<ref>This information, and most of the bulk of the article, comes from the text story "[[Withered Hope]]".</ref> There are at least 59,927,225 realities that the TransTech Cybertronians have yet to catalog.<ref>In "[[Worlds Collide, Part 4 of 4|Worlds Collide, Part 4]]", the Autobots scanned 75,890,007 realities in addition to their own before locating [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], adrift in the multiverse.</ref> [[Bug Bite (G1)|Bug Bite]] claims that there are fifteen quadrillion concurrent realities.<ref>"[[Games of Deception]]"</ref>

==Deciphering the terminology==
Each universal stream's name consists of three parts, beginning with a noun which refers to the continuity family of origin, a number that indicates the "real world" date of creation, and a Greek letter that denotes the form of media. For example, "Primax 984.0 Gamma" refers to the Generation 1 Marvel Comics continuity, with "Primax" referring to the Generation 1 continuity family, "984.0" indicating a publication date of September 1984 (with "0" indicating an unknown day of publication), and "Gamma" denoting a comic book series.

List of known continuity family indicators:

* '''Aurex'''—the [[Unicron Trilogy]] continuity family.<ref>Mentioned in "[[I, Lowtech]]" as the origin cluster of the [[Omnicon]]s.</ref>
* '''Gargent'''—the [[Tonka GoBots]] continuity family.<ref name="almanacII"/>
* '''Malgus'''—the ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' continuity family.<ref>Mentioned in "[[Withered Hope]]", but confirmed as ''Animated'' in "[[Bee in the City]]" and ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]''.</ref>
* '''Nexus'''—the cluster where the ''[[TransTech]]'' world of [[Axiom Nexus]] resides.<ref name="almanacII"/>
* '''Primax'''—the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] continuity family.
* '''Quadwal'''—the "real world".<ref>''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]''. "Quadwal" is a pun on the term "[[wikipedia:fourth wall|fourth wall]]", the barrier between fiction and reality which is "broken" when characters in a work of fiction acknowledge either the audience or their fictional nature.</ref>
* '''Tyran'''—the [[live-action film series|live-action movie]] continuity family.
* '''Viron'''—the ''[[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' continuity family.<ref name="almanacII">''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II]]''</ref>
* '''Xobitor'''—the, uh, ''[[Robotix]]'' family.<ref name="almanacII"/>
* '''Yayayarst'''—the ''[[Go-Bots (toyline)|Go-Go-Go-Bots]]'' continuity family.<ref name="almanacII"/>

Supplied by writers [[Greg Sepelak]] and [[Trent Troop]], a list of Greek letters and the media to which they refer:

* '''Alpha'''—animated series
* '''Beta'''—tech spec/toy/pack-in comic only ("box")
* '''Gamma'''—comic book series
* '''Delta'''—motion picture/live action
* '''Epsilon'''—club/convention fiction
* '''Zeta'''—text stories, storybooks and other prose works (printed)
* '''Eta'''—radio/audiocentric universes, books on tape
* '''Theta'''—live performance/spoken word
* '''Iota'''—Internet-only information (not involved with club/convention)
* '''Kappa'''—games (video and otherwise)

Using this information, we could, in theory, determine the names of yet-unnamed universes on our own. For example, the ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon continuity would be Viron 901.8 Alpha.

==Officially-designated universal streams==
These are the officially-named universal streams and the [[continuity family]] or individual [[Continuity|continuities]] they refer to:

*Aurex—the [[Unicron Trilogy|Unicron Trilogy continuity family]]
**Aurex 103.10 Alpha—the ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Micron Densetsu]]'' cartoon.<ref name=todiegame>"[[To Die Game!]]"</ref>
**Aurex 603.0 Kappa—''[[Transformers Armada: The Energon Within|The Energon Within]]'' video game.<ref name=almanacII/>
**Aurex 802.23 Alpha—the ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' cartoon.<ref name=almanacII/>

*Gargent—the [[GoBots (franchise)|''GoBots'' continuity family]]
**Gargent -1084.22 Alpha—an evil ''GoBots'' mirror universe from the cartoon episode "Transfer Point".<ref name=almanacII/>
**Gargent 984.08 Alpha—the ''Challenge of the GoBots'' cartoon.<ref name=almanacII/>

* Malgus—the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|''Animated'' continuity family]]
**Malgus 1207.26 Alpha—the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|''Animated'']] cartoon continuity.<ref name=almanac>''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]''</ref>

* Primax—the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]:
** Primax -408.24 Epsilon—if one breaches "the dimensional barrier between the Positive Polarity Universes" and the Negative, one can reach the [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] universe.<ref>[[Aquarius (SG)|SG Aquarius]]' bio</ref>
** Primax 095.0 Beta—the universal stream that's home to ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' [[Bulletbike (G2)|Bullet Bike]]'s [[Tech Spec]] bio.<ref name="ilowtech">"[[I, Lowtech]]"</ref>
** Primax 109.0 Beta—the original home of ''[[Alternity (franchise)|Alternity]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Convoy Vibrant Red]].<ref>[[From Here to Alternity]]</ref>
** Primax 207.0 Epsilon—the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' continuity, a [[splinter timeline]] of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics US continuity]] continuity.<ref name="witheredhope">"[[Withered Hope]]"</ref>
** Primax 388.0 Gamma—Japanese Generation 1 [[manga]] continuity, which branches off from cartoon continuity with the ''[[Super-God Masterforce (manga)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' manga.<ref name=almanacII/>
** Primax 406.3 Eta—the [[Kiss Players (radio drama)|''Kiss Players'' radio drama]].<ref name=todiegame/>
** Primax 698.20 Theta—the world of "[[Visitations]]".<ref name=almanacII/>
** Primax 703.02 Gamma—the world of the [[Devil's Due Press]]'s [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity]]. <ref name=almanacII/>
** Primax 787.3 Alpha—the Japanese [[The Headmasters (cartoon)|''The Headmasters'' cartoon]] continuity.<ref name="ilowtech"/>
** Primax 903.0 Beta—the [[Alternators|''Binaltech'']] continuity.<ref>"[[To Mega Therion]]"</ref>
** Primax 905.0 Beta—the ''[[Binaltech Asterisk]]'' continuity.<ref>"[[The World Is Flat!]]"</ref>
** Primax 984.0 Gamma—the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics US continuity]].<ref name="witheredhope"/>
** Primax 984.17 Alpha—the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon continuity]].<ref name=almanacII/>
**Primax 1087.90 Alpha—the ''[[The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[Explosion on Mars!! Maximus Is in Danger]]".<ref name=almanacII/>
** Primax 1291.0 Zeta—the "[[Another Time and Place]]" text story continuity, a dead-end splinter thread of the Marvel Comics continuity.<ref name="witheredhope"/>
** Primax 1286:3 Kappa—The ''[[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy|Mystery of Convoy]]'' game.<ref name=todiegame/>

* Quadwal—a [[Transformers timeline|strangely divergent]] continuity family.
** Quadwal -3760.925 Theta—the world in which [[Jim Sorenson (Animated)|Jim Sorenson]] and [[Bill Forster (Animated)|Bill Forster]] were recruited to write the ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|AllSpark Almanac]]''.<ref name=almanac/><ref>The origin date of September 25, -3760 is also a reference; September 25, 3760 BC is the first day of the [[wikipedia:Hebrew calendar|Hebrew calendar]] That answers THAT question.</ref>

* Tyran—the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] continuity family
** Tyran 407.01 Beta—the world of the movie toyline's [[Tech Spec]]s.<ref name=todiegame/>
** Tyran 707.04 Delta—the [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' film]].<ref name="witheredhope"/>

* Viron—the ''[[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' continuity family
** Viron 403.0 Beta—home stream to [[Dreadwing (RID)|Dreadwing]] and [[Smokejumper]]. <ref name=almanacII/>

* Xobitor—the ''[[Robotix]]'' continuity family
** Xobitor 286.0 Gamma—the ''Robotix'' comic.<ref name=almanacII/>
** Xobitor 1085.06 Alpha—the ''Robotix'' cartoon.<ref name=almanacII/>

* Yayayarst—the [[Go-Bots (toyline)|Playskool Go-Bots]] continuity family
**Yayayarst 201.11 Beta—the only known stream in this family.<ref name=almanacII/>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Alternity]]
[[Category:Dimensions]]
[[Category:Timelines]]
[[Category:TransTech]]

Universal stream

2011-05-28T07:20:28Z

Paddles:

{{disambig3|Universal}}
The Transformers [[multiverse]] consists of at least 15,962,782 cataloged '''universal streams''' (1,176,325 of which have "come to termination"), according to the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] Cybertronians' exhaustive records.<ref>This information, and most of the bulk of the article, comes from the text story "[[Withered Hope]]".</ref> There are at least 59,927,225 realities that the TransTech Cybertronians have yet to catalog.<ref>In "[[Worlds Collide, Part 4 of 4|Worlds Collide, Part 4]]", the Autobots scanned 75,890,007 realities in addition to their own before locating [[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]], adrift in the multiverse.</ref> [[Bug Bite (G1)|Bug Bite]] claims that there are fifteen quadrillion concurrent realities.<ref>"[[Games of Deception]]"</ref>

==Deciphering the terminology==
Each universal stream's name consists of three parts, beginning with a noun which refers to the continuity family of origin, a number that indicates the "real world" date of creation, and a Greek letter that denotes the form of media. For example, "Primax 984.0 Gamma" refers to the Generation 1 Marvel Comics continuity, with "Primax" referring to the Generation 1 continuity family, "984.0" indicating a publication date of September 1984 (with "0" indicating an unknown day of publication), and "Gamma" denoting a comic book series.

List of known continuity family indicators:

* '''Aurex'''—the [[Unicron Trilogy]] continuity family.<ref>Mentioned in "[[I, Lowtech]]" as the origin cluster of the [[Omnicon]]s.</ref>
* '''Gargent'''—the [[Tonka GoBots]] continuity family.<ref name="almanacII"/>
* '''Malgus'''—the ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'' continuity family.<ref>Mentioned in "[[Withered Hope]]", but confirmed as ''Animated'' in "[[Bee in the City]]" and ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]''.</ref>
* '''Nexus'''—the cluster where the ''[[TransTech]]'' world of [[Axiom Nexus]] resides.<ref name="almanacII"/>
* '''Primax'''—the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] continuity family.
* '''Quadwal'''—the "real world".<ref>''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]''. "Quadwal" is a pun on the term "[[wikipedia:fourth wall|fourth wall]]", the barrier between fiction and reality which is "broken" when characters in a work of fiction acknowledge either the audience or their fictional nature.</ref>
* '''Tyran'''—the [[live-action film series|live-action movie]] continuity family.
* '''Viron'''—the ''[[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' continuity family.<ref name="almanacII">''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II]]''</ref>
* '''Xobitor'''—the, uh, ''[[Robotix]]'' family.<ref name="almanacII"/>
* '''Yayayarst'''—the ''[[Go-Bots (toyline)|Go-Go-Go-Bots]]'' continuity family.<ref name="almanacII"/>

Supplied by writers [[Greg Sepelak]] and [[Trent Troop]], a list of Greek letters and the media to which they refer:

* '''Alpha'''—animated series
* '''Beta'''—tech spec/toy/pack-in comic only ("box")
* '''Gamma'''—comic book series
* '''Delta'''—motion picture/live action
* '''Epsilon'''—club/convention fiction
* '''Zeta'''—text stories, storybooks and other prose works (printed)
* '''Eta'''—radio/audiocentric universes, books on tape
* '''Theta'''—live performance/spoken word
* '''Iota'''—Internet-only information (not involved with club/convention)
* '''Kappa'''—games (video and otherwise)

Using this information, we could, in theory, determine the names of yet-unnamed universes on our own. For example, the ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon continuity would be Viron 901.8 Alpha.

==Officially-designated universal streams==
These are the officially-named universal streams and the [[continuity family]] or individual [[Continuity|continuities]] they refer to:

*Aurex—the [[Unicron Trilogy|Unicron Trilogy continuity family]]
**Aurex 103.10 Alpha—the ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Micron Densetsu]]'' cartoon.<ref name=todiegame>"[[To Die Game!]]"</ref>
**Aurex 603.0 Kappa—''[[Transformers Armada: The Energon Within|The Energon Within]]'' video game.<ref name=almanacII/>
**Aurex 802.23 Alpha—the ''[[Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' cartoon.<ref name=almanacII/>

*Gargent—the [[Tonka GoBots]] continuity family
**Gargent -1084.22 Alpha—an evil ''GoBots'' mirror universe from the cartoon episode "Transfer Point".<ref name=almanacII/>
**Gargent 984.08 Alpha—the ''Challenge of the GoBots'' cartoon.<ref name=almanacII/>

* Malgus—the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|''Animated'' continuity family]]
**Malgus 1207.26 Alpha—the [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|''Animated'']] cartoon continuity.<ref name=almanac>''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]''</ref>

* Primax—the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]:
** Primax -408.24 Epsilon—if one breaches "the dimensional barrier between the Positive Polarity Universes" and the Negative, one can reach the [[Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] universe.<ref>[[Aquarius (SG)|SG Aquarius]]' bio</ref>
** Primax 095.0 Beta—the universal stream that's home to ''[[Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]'' [[Bulletbike (G2)|Bullet Bike]]'s [[Tech Spec]] bio.<ref name="ilowtech">"[[I, Lowtech]]"</ref>
** Primax 109.0 Beta—the original home of ''[[Alternity (franchise)|Alternity]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Convoy Vibrant Red]].<ref>[[From Here to Alternity]]</ref>
** Primax 207.0 Epsilon—the ''[[Classics (2006)|Classics]]'' continuity, a [[splinter timeline]] of the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics US continuity]] continuity.<ref name="witheredhope">"[[Withered Hope]]"</ref>
** Primax 388.0 Gamma—Japanese Generation 1 [[manga]] continuity, which branches off from cartoon continuity with the ''[[Super-God Masterforce (manga)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' manga.<ref name=almanacII/>
** Primax 406.3 Eta—the [[Kiss Players (radio drama)|''Kiss Players'' radio drama]].<ref name=todiegame/>
** Primax 698.20 Theta—the world of "[[Visitations]]".<ref name=almanacII/>
** Primax 703.02 Gamma—the world of the [[Devil's Due Press]]'s [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers continuity]]. <ref name=almanacII/>
** Primax 787.3 Alpha—the Japanese [[The Headmasters (cartoon)|''The Headmasters'' cartoon]] continuity.<ref name="ilowtech"/>
** Primax 903.0 Beta—the [[Alternators|''Binaltech'']] continuity.<ref>"[[To Mega Therion]]"</ref>
** Primax 905.0 Beta—the ''[[Binaltech Asterisk]]'' continuity.<ref>"[[The World Is Flat!]]"</ref>
** Primax 984.0 Gamma—the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|Marvel Comics US continuity]].<ref name="witheredhope"/>
** Primax 984.17 Alpha—the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon continuity]].<ref name=almanacII/>
**Primax 1087.90 Alpha—the ''[[The Headmasters (cartoon)|Headmasters]]'' episode "[[Explosion on Mars!! Maximus Is in Danger]]".<ref name=almanacII/>
** Primax 1291.0 Zeta—the "[[Another Time and Place]]" text story continuity, a dead-end splinter thread of the Marvel Comics continuity.<ref name="witheredhope"/>
** Primax 1286:3 Kappa—The ''[[Transformers: Mystery of Convoy|Mystery of Convoy]]'' game.<ref name=todiegame/>

* Quadwal—a [[Transformers timeline|strangely divergent]] continuity family.
** Quadwal -3760.925 Theta—the world in which [[Jim Sorenson (Animated)|Jim Sorenson]] and [[Bill Forster (Animated)|Bill Forster]] were recruited to write the ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac|AllSpark Almanac]]''.<ref name=almanac/><ref>The origin date of September 25, -3760 is also a reference; September 25, 3760 BC is the first day of the [[wikipedia:Hebrew calendar|Hebrew calendar]] That answers THAT question.</ref>

* Tyran—the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] continuity family
** Tyran 407.01 Beta—the world of the movie toyline's [[Tech Spec]]s.<ref name=todiegame/>
** Tyran 707.04 Delta—the [[Transformers (2007)|''Transformers'' film]].<ref name="witheredhope"/>
** Tyran 609.22 Iota-The world of [[Burger King]]'s online [[Transform Your Way]] promotion

* Viron—the ''[[Robots in Disguise (franchise)|Robots in Disguise]]'' continuity family
** Viron 403.0 Beta—home stream to [[Dreadwing (RID)|Dreadwing]] and [[Smokejumper]]. <ref name=almanacII/>

* Xobitor—the ''[[Robotix]]'' continuity family
** Xobitor 286.0 Gamma—the ''Robotix'' comic.<ref name=almanacII/>
** Xobitor 1085.06 Alpha—the ''Robotix'' cartoon.<ref name=almanacII/>

* Yayayarst—the [[Go-Bots (toyline)|Playskool Go-Bots]] continuity family
**Yayayarst 201.11 Beta—the only known stream in this family.<ref name=almanacII/>

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Alternity]]
[[Category:Dimensions]]
[[Category:Timelines]]
[[Category:TransTech]]

User talk:184.56.27.61

2011-05-28T07:11:01Z

Paddles:

{{preview}}
{{signyourposts}}
--[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:17, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

{{captionbastard}}
The reason why your caption on [[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]]'s page was deleted. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 21:21, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
:Sorry. This is the first wiki I've ever done, so I'm still new at this stuff. {{[[Special:Contributions/184.56.27.61|184.56.27.61]] 01:27, 28 May 2011 (EDT)}}

==General help==
Since it seems you are in need of some:
*Technical:
** To sign your posts, you only have to type this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after your post.
** To make a new article, you can click a red link you find on another page. This is the easiest way and also tells you the article is something the wiki is waiting for. If you want to write a page on your own initiative (often if you want to write about something that is nameless), you have to alter the text after tfwiki.net/wiki/ in the address bar atop your screen and press enter.
** Since you're new, try not to jump right into article creation. Try updating other pages first by rewriting sloppy sections or unstubbing sections. This will get you familiar with the basics of editing and what kind of layout the wiki expects.

*Community:
**If you plan to stay and help out, it'll probably be better for everyone is you signed up as a user. Random numbers don't convey an identity as well as a name does.
**Unless you have no access to the material yourself and are worried a page could remain outdated or incomplete, do not tell others to do something. In fact, don't ever tell others to do something. ''Ask'' nicely. If you're really interested in a subject that has no specific priority, you can also try asking if someone wants to update the page for you, but don't push it.
**Try to balance your actual edits and talk page posts. Currently, most you did was ask things of and to the user base. That's... kind of annoying, if all the user base gets is questions and has to do extra work in writing a reply. You're new and uncertain of what to do or why some things are the way they are. That's fine, but you can also try to look for an answer yourself first. If a page seems to miss information, it might very well be that it is simply forgotten and nobody has noticed or cared to fix it. You're welcome to improve the wiki in every way you can, so add what's missing if you can.
I think that's about it, or do you have other questions? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:39, 28 May 2011 (EDT)
: Now I am Paddles! The most awesome dinobot ever!!!!!!!! Thank you, Geewunling, very much. {{[[User:Paddles|Paddles]] 03:09, 28 May 2011 (EDT)}}

User talk:184.56.27.61

2011-05-28T07:09:30Z

Paddles:

{{preview}}
{{signyourposts}}
--[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:17, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

{{captionbastard}}
The reason why your caption on [[Freeway (G1)|Freeway]]'s page was deleted. --[[User:Lonegamer78|Lonegamer78]] 21:21, 27 May 2011 (EDT)
:Sorry. This is the first wiki I've ever done, so I'm still new at this stuff. {{[[Special:Contributions/184.56.27.61|184.56.27.61]] 01:27, 28 May 2011 (EDT)}}

==General help==
Since it seems you are in need of some:
*Technical:
** To sign your posts, you only have to type this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> after your post.
** To make a new article, you can click a red link you find on another page. This is the easiest way and also tells you the article is something the wiki is waiting for. If you want to write a page on your own initiative (often if you want to write about something that is nameless), you have to alter the text after tfwiki.net/wiki/ in the address bar atop your screen and press enter.
** Since you're new, try not to jump right into article creation. Try updating other pages first by rewriting sloppy sections or unstubbing sections. This will get you familiar with the basics of editing and what kind of layout the wiki expects.

*Community:
**If you plan to stay and help out, it'll probably be better for everyone is you signed up as a user. Random numbers don't convey an identity as well as a name does.
**Unless you have no access to the material yourself and are worried a page could remain outdated or incomplete, do not tell others to do something. In fact, don't ever tell others to do something. ''Ask'' nicely. If you're really interested in a subject that has no specific priority, you can also try asking if someone wants to update the page for you, but don't push it.
**Try to balance your actual edits and talk page posts. Currently, most you did was ask things of and to the user base. That's... kind of annoying, if all the user base gets is questions and has to do extra work in writing a reply. You're new and uncertain of what to do or why some things are the way they are. That's fine, but you can also try to look for an answer yourself first. If a page seems to miss information, it might very well be that it is simply forgotten and nobody has noticed or cared to fix it. You're welcome to improve the wiki in every way you can, so add what's missing if you can.
I think that's about it, or do you have other questions? [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:39, 28 May 2011 (EDT)
: Now I am Paddles! The most awesome dinobot ever!!!!!!!! {{[[User:Paddles|Paddles]] 03:09, 28 May 2011 (EDT)}}

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T07:05:28Z

Paddles:

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T07:04:29Z

Paddles:

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T07:04:15Z

Paddles:

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T07:01:45Z

Paddles:

He only cares for [[Paddles (character)]], every body that turns into a [[dinosaur]], [[Waspinator (BW)]], and [[Transformers Animated(franchise)]]

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T07:01:14Z

Paddles:

He only cares for [[Paddles(character)]], every body that turns into a [[dinosaur]], [[Waspinator(BW]], and [[Transformers Animated(franchise)]]

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T07:00:08Z

Paddles:

He only cares for {[Paddles(character)]}, every body that turns into a {[dinosaur]}, {[Waspinator(BW]}, and {[Transformers Animated(franchise)]}

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T06:58:58Z

Paddles:

He only cares for {[Paddles(character)|the guy he's named after]}, every body that turns into a {[dinosaur]}, a {[Waspinator(BW)|wasp]}, and {[Transformers Animated(franchise)|Animated]}

User:Paddles

2011-05-28T06:57:27Z

Paddles: New page: He only cares for {{Paddles(character)|the guy he's named after}}, every body that turns into a {{dinosaur}}, a {{Waspinator(BW)|wasp}}, and {{Transformers Animated(franchise)|Animated

He only cares for {{Paddles(character)|the guy he's named after}}, every body that turns into a {{dinosaur}}, a {{Waspinator(BW)|wasp}}, and {{Transformers Animated(franchise)|Animated