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2025-12-20T14:44:24Z

Pat: /* Notes */ Added Hemsworth based on his role as Orion Pax/Optimus Prime in One

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[[File:Whatliesbeneath Australia.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Crikey. Fair dinkum. Too right. G'Don ya, mate. Bonzer. Didgeridoo.]]
'''Australia''' is a nation-state on the planet [[Earth]]'s Southern Hemisphere. The world's sixth largest country, the majority of it seems to consist of semi-arid or desert regions known as the [[Outback (G1)|Outback]]. The majority of the fauna and flora is unique to the country, and all of it deadly to [[human]]s, most notably the infamous and murderous dropbears.

In [[Unicron Trilogy continuity family|some continuities]] at least, the [[Accent|Australian accent]] is supposedly very similar to that of the inhabitants of the planet [[Nebulos|Nebulon]], or vice-versa.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
After the initial [[Decepticon]] threat was repulsed, [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] wrote in his journal that "all of the world's governments" were assisting the [[Autobot]]s' attempts to return to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. This would presumably include Australia. {{storylink|More than Meets the Eye, Part 3}}

====''Story of Binaltech''====
Circa [[2008]] of the [[BT World]] in an unnamed Australian city, [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]] planned an experiment in which he would extract the minds of the city's inhabitants to help him build his own synthetic [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]. However, before he could set this plan into motion, the Autobots surrounded him and he faced off against [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]. Nemesis Prime initially gained the upper hand against his Autobot counterpart, but the [[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Protector]] united with Optimus Prime, who was then easily able to reflect Nemesis Prime's attacks, resulting in the dark clone's destruction. {{storylink|Unfinished Business, Part 4}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
[[File:Headmasters Canberra.jpg|left|thumb|Diamondbolt was here]]
The Decepticons built one of their 'Death Towers' under the capital city, [[Canberra]]. [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] was left there to watch over it and thereby treated the locals to a show of him kicking [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]]'s skidplate. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}}

====''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon====
The Decepticons built an underwater base off the coast of Australia, their construction efforts causing increased volcanic activity and earthquakes that damaged the city of [[Sydney]], which then drew the attention of the Autobot [[Godmaster (lifeform)|Godmaster]] [[Lightfoot (G1)|Lightfoot]]. While the [[Headmaster Junior]]s performed rescue operations in Sydney, [[Ginrai (human)|Ginrai]] and Lightfoot fought against the threat of [[King Poseidon]]. {{storylink|Escape!! The Underwater Volcano Erupts}}

====''Beast Wars II'' cartoon====
By the time [[Earth]] was known as [[Gaia]], [[human]]s had long left the planet. When [[Lio Convoy]]'s [[Maximal]]s and [[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]]'s [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]] waged war on Gaia over [[Angolmois Energy]], they knew of Australia as the "Sea Continent" (海の大陸 ''Umi no Tairiku''). This was where the [[Seacon (BW)|Seacons]] made their temporary territory. {{storylink|The Space Pirate Seacons!}}

===2005 IDW continuity===
After flying out of [[Tokyo]], [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]] and [[Galvatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Galvatron]] clashed in the high atmosphere before landing in the Australian Outback. {{storylink|Onyx Interface Part Three: ONoffON|ONoffON}}

===''Energon'' comic===
The West Australian outback was the site of [[Alterenergy]]'s [[Energon|01 Source]] Exploratory Excavation/Drilling Operation, where both Dr. [[Brian Jones]] and his son [[Kicker Jones|Kicker]] worked. The mining drew both a group of protesters including [[Alexis Thi Dang]], as well as a squad of [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcons]] searching for [[Energon]]. {{storylink|What Lies Beneath|What Lies Beneath}}

===Live-action film series===
====''Transformers'' film====
Based on her accent, NSA analyst [[Maggie Madsen]] originates from Australia. Why she's working for a foreign government is unknown; maybe she just wants to buy cheaper toys. {{Storylink|Transformers (film)|Transformers}}

====IDW movie comics====
When [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave's]] forces arrived to Earth, Australia was one of the nations targeted by the second wave of Decepticons. {{storylink|Alliance issue 3}}

====''The Veiled Threat''====
[[Kickback (ROTF)|Kickback]], [[Tread]], and [[Trample]] landed in Oobagooma, deep in the Western Australia outback, to mine the huge deposits of uranium there, which they hoped could be used as a power source to revive [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. However, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and [[William Lennox|Captain Lennox]] led a [[Ironhide (Movie)|team of]] [[Salvage (Movie)|Autobots]] and [[NEST]] [[Kaminari Ishihara|operatives]] Down Under and destroyed the Decepticons before they could carry out this plan. {{storylink|Transformers: The Veiled Threat|The Veiled Threat}}

====Titan movie comics====
When the Decepticon [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] made a landing in the Northern Territory, Optimus Prime and [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] were sent to capture him. This took a while, Sideways turning out to be quite the road warrior! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}

====''Dark of the Moon'' Annual====
[[NEST Satellite Orion]] detected [[energon]] signatures at [[Olympic Dam]], suggesting that the Decepticons were deploying [[Pillar]]s there. {{storylink|Transformers Dark of the Moon Annual 2012|Transformers Dark of the Moon Annual 2012}}

====Transformers Are Dangerous====
[[File:Transformers are Dangerous Transformers Go Home.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|We don't want their sort round 'ere!]]

After the sacking of [[Chicago]], the Australian parliament held a symbolic meeting in solidarity with America. The Speaker of the Lower House condemned the Transformers as a threat and legislation was already being drafted to criminalise anyone harbouring a dirty robot combatant. Naval yards were reported as ramping up construction. {{storylink|Transformers Are Dangerous}}
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===Ask Vector Prime===
[[Vector Prime]] claimed that [[Abraham Lincoln]] had once been president of the United States of Australia, though it's not clear if this is a result of his fuzzy knowledge of Earth history or some kind of alternate history. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/09/07}}

===Spacewarp's Log===
In the 31st century, Australia became part of the global island-based United Kingdom, the only Earth nation to not be overrun by [[Inhumanoid]]/[[Darkling Lord]] conquest. {{storylink|Transformers: Spacewarp's Log|Spacewarp's Log (2), 2015/12/05}}

===''Rescue Bots Academy'' cartoon===
[[Brushfire (RB)|Brushfire]] spent time in the Australian outback on her own, however she had to call in the [[Rescue Bot]] recruits to help her deal with unruly mobs of [[kangaroo]]s that were threatening to overrun a town. They were able to help her put out the fires that were scaring the kangaroos. {{storylink|Brushfire (episode)|Brushfire}} [[Whirl (RBA)|Whirl]] later returned to the outback to pick up Brushfire for help with preventing [[Citadel Secundus]] from crash-landing. {{storylink|Crash of the Titan}}

==Toys==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
[[File:ROTF-toy PowerBots Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|Crikey!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Power Bots, 2009)

: [[Power Bots]] Sideswipe has a North Americanised stereotypical Australian accent!

==Notes==
*Everything costs considerably more in Australia than it does in America, including ''Transformers'' toys, which are usually twice or even thrice as expensive.
*In 1985 Milton Bradley released a set of G1 [[Action Cards]] in Australia. However the set was limited to 100 cards while the U.S. received the full set of 192.
*[[Chris Hemsworth]], [[Scott McNeil]], [[Peter Kelamis]], [[Rachael Taylor]], [[Isabel Lucas]], and [[Shane McCarthy]] are all Australian natives who've been involved with the ''Transformers'' franchise. Only Shane still resides there. We'll trade him if we can get Scott McNeil back.
*Australia is also home to [[Madman Entertainment]], who release ''Transformers'' [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1]], ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars]]'', and ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' DVDs to the Aussie and New Zealand markets. They give the Aussies more DVD features than we get, the ''bastards''.
*The first live action movie also premiered Down Under almost a month before it did in the United States.
*For some reason, the first and second waves of the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|''Transformers'' (2010)]], ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'', and ''[[Transformers: Generations (toyline)|Generations]]'' toylines were available at mass retail in Australia several months before their scheduled release date elsewhere in the world.
*"Transformers are Dangerous" gets the title of Australia's Speaker of the House of Representatives wrong. That's a minor mistake but the bigger one is they're taking a public stance on security/foreign policy in the House: the Speaker in Australia is meant to be impartial and ''not'' do that.
*The characters [[Falcatron]] and [[Torque (FOC)|Torque]] were created in 2012 by Ford Australia and [[High Moon Studios]], as a promotion for the ''[[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)|Fall of Cybertron]]'' video game.

==External links==
*{{w|Australia}} at Wikipedia

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Scourge (RID)

2025-11-14T12:58:10Z

Pat: /* Robots in Disguise (2001) */ Rewritten Spychanger entry with female gender pronouns (refer to Optimus Prime (Universe)#Notes for explanation)

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{{disambig3.5|the evil, black Optimus Prime clone from ''Robots in Disguise''|the other evil, black Optimus Prime clones|Nemesis Prime (disambiguation)|Scourge}}
:''Scourge is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Robots in Disguise continuity family]].''

[[File:Black Convoy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I see a [[Optimus Prime (RID)|red truck]] and I want it [[Black repaint|painted black]].]]

One of [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]'s twisted schemes involved corrupting a stolen [[Autobot]] [[protoform]] with Decepticon programming. In the process, the protoform scanned some attributes of [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], but the Decepticon programming held—and Prime's dark doppelgänger '''Scourge''' was born. Scourge is arguably Megatron's second in command, leading the new Decepticon forces, a much more effective unit than [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]]'s [[Predacon (BW)|Predacons]].

He is a ruthless and cunning warrior who contains all of Optimus Prime's strengths and skill, but none of his compassion and mercy. He's also a very ''ambitious'' warrior, with plans to dethrone Megatron!

Scourge's greatest strength is also his weakness—his temper. Fearless and furious, he charges into battle wildly hacking his [[Sword of Fury|broadsword]] as his [[trailer]] combat deck launches missile barrages overhead. Yet his rage also makes him impatient, petulant, and easily provoked; it also scares the heck out of his subordinates.

Naturally, Sky-Byte sees Scourge as a threat on just about every level. For once, he's right.

==Fiction==
===Cartoon continuity===
====2001 ''Robots in Disguise'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Barry Stigler]] (English), [[Taitem Kusunoki]] (Japanese)|[[Fabrizio Vidale]] (Italian), [[Vladimir Gerasimov]] (Russian, till [[Koji Gets His Wish]]), [[Mikhail Tihonov]] (Russian, from [[Koji Gets His Wish]]), [[Alfonso Mellado]] (Latin-American Spanish), [[Júlio César]] (Brazilian Portuguese), [[Kim Tae-woong]] (Korean)}}

[[File:TheDecepticons-Scourge.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem. Oh yeah!]]
The robot who came to be named Scourge was originally one of a crew of six [[Autobot]]s sent to [[Earth]] to reactivate the legendary Autobot battle station, [[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Fortress Maximus]]. As leader of the expedition, Scourge was equipped with the ability to detect the unique energy signatures of the [[O-Part]]s, the [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] components that held the key to reawakening Maximus. {{storylink|Koji Gets His Wish}} {{storylink|A Friendly Contest}} However, Scourge never had the opportunity to use that ability in the service of the Autobots, when the team's craft malfunctioned and crashed on Earth in the mid-20th century. Having been in [[protoform]]-state with [[stasis pod]]s for the duration of their voyage, the six Autobots were entombed in their crashed ship.

In the early days of the 21st century, archaeologist and energy expert [[Kenneth Onishi|Doctor Kenneth Onishi]]'s work eventually led him to find the various links in the chain of Fortress Maximus—he located the fortress itself beneath [[Metro City]], mapped the location of the O-Parts, and discovered the location of the crashed Autobot spaceship. However, when the evil [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]] came to Earth with the intent of harnessing Maximus's power, he captured Onishi, and through mental scans, discerned the location of the Autobots' ship. Stealing the six protoforms, Megatron took them to a nearby military base to scan [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]]s for them, infusing them with a part of his own spark energy to turn them to the side of evil. The first five became the [[Commando (RID)|Commandos]], but when Megatron targeted a tanker truck to scan as the [[alternate mode]] of the final protoform, [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] leapt into action in order to save the truck's [[Kelly (RID)|human driver]], and as a result, the tanker, Prime ''and'' the human were all scanned. With an infusion of Megatron's spark energy to complete the concoction, Scourge was born, emerging from his pod as a dark twin of Optimus Prime, who proved that Megatron's programming had over-ridden any Autobot goodness within him. Appointing himself leader of the new "[[Decepticon]]s", he quickly established himself as a force to be reckoned with. {{storylink|The Decepticons}}

[[File:Commandos Scourge.jpg|right|upright=1.2|thumb|I look more like [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] than [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]] does!]]
To prove the effectiveness of the new troops, Scourge led them on a mission to attack [[Sherman Dam]] and made short work of the [[Autobot Brothers]], tossing them into the lake behind the dam. Once the dam was mined with bombs, he attempted to detonate it, only to find that the bombs had been tampered with—Sky-Byte and the Predacons, annoyed at being pushed down in rank by the new arrivals, had taken control of the bombs in order to prove their own effectiveness to Megatron. The arrival of more Autobots in the form of Optimus and [[Team Bullet Train]] caused Megatron to call off the mission with only minor damage to the dam. {{storylink|Commandos}}

The next mission saw Scourge and the Commandos on guard duty, perhaps as a punishment for their previous failed mission, while the Predacon trio dug under a volcano. Scourge and Sky-Byte both fought Optimus when the Autobot leader arrived with the [[Spychanger]]s, although the shark appeared to regard Scourge as just as valid a target. When a flow of lava was unleashed, Scourge unleashed a Barrage Attack on the Spychangers who were attempting to stop it, little caring that Sky-Byte and the Predacons were in the blast area. His amusement when the lava soon chased the Predacons into the water was almost palpable. {{storylink|Volcano (episode)|Volcano}}

After [[Movor]] was shot into orbit, Scourge grew steadily impatient with the shuttle's hopeless attempts to guide the rest of the Decepticons to the Autobot base and threatened much bodily injury. Movor was tricked by the Autobots into leading the Decepticons into a trap. While Scourge grappled with Optimus, Movor attempted to help by firing on Optimus from space, but only succeeded in hitting Scourge, who promised to turn the shuttle into "metal confetti". {{storylink|Attack from Outer Space}}

[[File:TheTest Scourgecar.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|But I always cut the crusts off!]]
As part of a new ploy, Scourge interrupted Sky-Byte's attack on an oil rig and chased off the Predacon. Seeing this, Optimus Prime believed that the Decepticons had begun to experience a resurgence of their Autobot sparks. Scourge was disgruntled with [[Mega-Octane]]'s plan, believing lies and deceit to be unworthy of a warrior, but went along with it. The Decepticons successfully gave the appearance of changing sides to the Autobots and underwent various tests such as cleaning a forest, with Scourge holding his temper barely in check the whole time. The appearance of Sky-Byte (who'd been kept ignorant of the plan) gave Scourge an opportunity to blow off some steam, but his attack endangered the life of a [[Kelly (RID)|passerby]]. When Optimus told him to stand down, Scourge exploded and ended up giving the whole plan away, forcing the Decepticons to retreat under the full force of Optimus' rage. {{storylink|The Test (episode)|The Test}}

Scourge presented the increasingly impatient Megatron with a new plan which involved attacking power plants. The Autobots were hampered by the misguided assistance of Sky-Byte, but seemed to repel most of the Decepticon assaults. {{storylink|The Fish Test}} Scourge and the Decepticons subsequently butted in on one of Sky-Byte's plans, stealing a disk supposedly containing the plans to the Autobots' [[Global Space Bridge]] which the Predacons were trying to obtain. Unfortunately it was an Autobot trick, and both the Decepticons and Predacons ended up in a sewer. {{storylink|Wedge's Short Fuse}}

Annoyed by the Autobots constant escapes through the space bridge, Scourge had [[Ro-Tor (RID)|Ro-Tor]] track one of the [[Build Team (RID)|Build Team]] to the space bridge control center. The Decepticons broke in and Scourge sabotaged the controls, resulting in the space bridge sending any Autobots who used it to a random destination. Once chaos was established, Scourge and Megatron attacked the North Energy Research Center, but were unable to achieve much before the Autobots repaired the space bridge and arrived to chase them off. {{storylink|Landfill (episode)|Landfill}}

[[File:Sky-Byte Saves the Day Scourge Battle Station.jpg|right|upright=1.2|thumb|Say hello to my leetle friend]]
Scourge and [[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]] attempted to intercept Optimus on his way to taking the O-Parts to Sky-Byte, who had taken some humans as hostage. Ruination was swiftly disabled by the Autobot, but Scourge was only wounded and trailed Optimus to the site of the [[CGA Tower]] attack. He again fought Optimus in an attempt to take the O-Parts, but his threatened attack on the tower itself was thwarted by the Build Team. Optimus was able to chase Scourge off so that the tower could be saved. {{storylink|Sky-Byte Saves the Day}}

[[File:Ultra Magnus Scourge Megaoctane.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|Do NOT 'step on the gas'.]]
After a semi-successful attempt to raid an oil refinery, Scourge and Mega-Octane leaked a transmission ordering Sky-Byte to look for O-Parts in order to lead the Autobots into an ambush. However instead of the expected Autobots, they were confronted by [[Ultra Magnus (RID)|Ultra Magnus]]. They attempted to fight the newly arrived Autobot warrior, but retreated after Optimus Prime arrived to lend a hand. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus (episode)|Ultra Magnus}} Back at [[Megastar|base]], they watched Movor's surveillance of Ultra Magnus beating down Optimus, and Megatron demanded of Scourge to know why one Autobot had done what the Decepticons had failed to do so many times. They were able to track Sky-Byte to the island on which Optimus was recuperating after the battle and mount an attack, but were chased off once again when Optimus and Ultra Magnus merged into [[Omega Prime]]. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus: Forced Fusion!}}

Scourge joined Sky-Byte, Megatron, and the Commandos in watching archival footage of Ultra Magnus in order to get a better understanding of their newly arrived enemy. {{storylink|Mystery of the Ultra Magnus}} The Decepticons interrupted another of Sky-Byte's plans in order to kidnap the Autobot Brothers. With the three brothers as hostages, the Decepticons led Optimus into a trap and fought the Autobot leader savagely. They were again seen off after Magnus rescued the brothers. {{storylink|The Two Faces of Ultra Magnus}} Sensing an opportunity, Scourge met with Ultra Magnus to try to persuade the Autobot to join him against both Optimus Prime and Megatron. When Magnus turned him down, Scourge and the Commandos turned on him, only to end up fighting the three Autobot Brothers instead. {{storylink|Power to Burn!}}

[[File:Fortress Maximus Scourge.jpg|right|upright=1.2|thumb|I've got the power!]]
With information extracted from Doctor Onishi, Scourge and the Decepticons were able to find a huge cavern beneath Metro City housing some ruins. Although the Autobots were on hand to try to fight them off, Scourge attempted to approach the ruins, and his proximity caused Fortress Maximus to rise. {{storylink|Fortress Maximus (episode)|Fortress Maximus}} The exposure to the battle station's energies awakened memories of his original Autobot mission to find and reactivate Maximus and, twisted by Megatron's reprogramming, he became determined to take control of the huge Autobot in order to take over leadership of the Decepticon/Predacon forces and eventually the Universe. With Ruination fighting the Autobots as a distraction, Scourge set out to find Maximus, fighting with Optimus Prime and eventually breaking into the cavern to find that Maximus was gone. Upon retreating, Scourge also discovered that Sky-Byte had freed Doctor Onishi, but covered for him with Megatron so that the Predacon would owe him. {{storylink|Koji Gets His Wish}}

As the race began to locate the remaining O-Parts, Scourge rediscovered his ability to sense them, part of his original mission as an Autobot. The attempts by Scourge and the Decepticons to stop the Autobots finding the O-Part were hampered by Sky-Byte's misguided attempts to find the O-Parts himself, and eventually the Autobots were able to collect them all. {{storylink|A Friendly Contest}} Movor was soon able to locate the Autobots in the [[Sahara]], and Megatron himself led the Predacons and Decepticons there to take the [[Orb of Sigma]] from them. With the loss of Megatron, Scourge and the Decepticons retreated. {{storylink|Peril from the Past}}

[[File:Maximus Emerges Scourge.jpg|left|upright=1.2|thumb|Behold my insignias! They are pretty!]]
With Megatron gone, Scourge took command of the ''[[Megastar]]'', much to the Predacons' dismay. They were able to successfully capture [[Cerebros (RID)|Cerebros]] from the Autobots, and Scourge was able to use the Autobot part of his bio-signature to dupe the robot into activating Maximus. However he soon found he was unable to control the giant robot, who ran amok until the Autobots' human ally, [[Koji Onishi|Koji]], was able to stop it. Additionally the arrival of Galvatron, Megatron's reborn form, during the battle, also meant that Scourge had lost his new leadership. {{storylink|Maximus Emerges}} Realizing that humans could control Maximus, Scourge then amplified the human part of his bio-signature and succeeded in taking control of the giant, until he was overridden by a large group of human children. {{storylink|The Human Element}} Seeking to use Koji himself for the process, a case of mistaken identity resulted in the Decepticons capturing his best friend, [[Carl (RID)|Carl]], instead, but when Carl proved able to activate Fortress Maximus, Scourge dropped his façade of loyalty and ordered Maximus to destroy Galvatron. {{storylink|Mistaken Identity}}

The revelation of his betrayal brought about a punishment most severe—Scourge and the Decepticons had their autonomy stripped by Galvatron, turned once again into loyal servants so absolutely dedicated to their leader {{storylink|Surprise Attack!}} that they continued to do his will even after he attempted to kill them with molten lava as a belated punishment. {{storylink|Galvatron's Revenge}} With Galvatron's ultimate defeat at the hands of Omega Prime, Scourge was captured and taken aboard Fortress Maximus for imprisonment with the other villains. {{storylink|The Final Battle (RID)|The Final Battle}}
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====''Legends''/''Unite Warriors''====
{{CRnote|Scourge|[[Scourge (G1)|Generation 1 Scourge]]}}

[[File:Transformers Legends EX Black Convoy has Optimus Minor.jpg|thumb|250px]]
Scourge escaped from the Autobot prison on Cybertron, modified his body into a new form incorporating an [[Energon Matrix]] stolen from [[Vector Sigma]], and somehow ended up in the [[Legends World]] where he attacked the [[Tokyo Toy Show]], defeating an actor portraying [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|another Optimus Prime]] and taking [[Optimus Minor|Minor]] hostage. He then encountered Sky-Byte, another visitor to this strange universe, but found his offer to join forces rebuffed when the shark was provoked by his treatment of Minor and challenged him to a fight. After a short battle, Scourge defeated Sky-Byte with his new "Matrix Dead Maser" attack, but was impressed enough by his willingness to fight that he let Minor go and restated his offer, this time explaining that he sought to free Gigatron from prison as his power would be needed if Scourge were to truly achieve galactic conquest. This time Sky-Byte accepted, and the two returned to their home dimension together. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Scourge)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}

[[File:BaldigusChapter2 BlackConvoyGelshark.jpg|thumb|left|300px| "I'm the coolest!"]]

Scourge and Sky-Byte made their way to Cybertron in [[2021]], where they exposed the true identity of [[Grand Scourge]], who had tricked [[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]] into thinking ''he'' was Scourge. Sensing that Scourge possessed a Matrix, Grand Scourge crossed blades with him, but Scourge came out on top by calling on Ruination to blow his enemy away. Following a battle with Grand Scourge's master, [[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]], Scourge recruited Ruination to his cause and traveled to the future era in which Gigatron was imprisoned. {{storylink|Ruination Chapter, Part Two}} Their journey to rescue their leader was put on hold while the other Combatrons enjoyed their baths, to Scourge's annoyance. {{Storylink|Strategy Meeting in an Earth Bath?!}}

Recovering the ship he once arrived on Earth with, Scourge led his troops in an attack on [[Neo Brave Maximus]] where Gigatron was held, crashing the ship into Maximus and using [[Dark Ai]] to hack [[T-AI]]. As he confronted Fire Convoy to demand the release of his leader, Gigatron himself appeared, revealed that he had given up on his evil ambitions and asked Scourge to do the same. He refused, having embraced his evil programming as his true self, and instead attempted to absorb Gigatron's power for himself. He was held back by Sky-Byte, allowing Gigatron to extract the evil he once infused him with, and he reverted to an Autobot protoform. {{storylink|LGEX Scourge Prologue}}

As the heroic Autobot he had been meant to be, Scourge joined the Dimensional Patrol and was placed in command of a squadron of fellow protoforms as well as drones based on his previous body. A mission to capture his fellow Combatrons saw him return to the Legends World, where he and [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] detained the local [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]]' [[transtector]]s for safety reasons until they got their hands on the final fugitive, Dark Ai. The Autobot Headmasters took this poorly and joined forces with Dark Ai, modifying captured Patrol drones into transtectors as part of a plan to trick Scourge into adopting a Headmaster form himself in order to combat them. When he did so, Dark Ai interfaced with his transtector and installed backup data of his previous identity, restoring his evil programming. Scourge promptly turned on the Dimensional Patrol and chased them off, then restored the captured Combatrons. As he prepared to return home with his new drone forces in tow, he played with the idea of conquering the Legends World, but was dissuaded by the Autobots and scolded by Dark Ai for considering it. {{storylink|Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Scourge 2)|Bonus Edition Vol. EX}}

Scourge and the other Combatrons continued traveling together with Dark Ai, seeking their own destiny. {{storylink|Transformers Legends Final Chapter "Epiloge"|Epiloge}}

====Dreamwave ''Robots in Disguise'' comic====
[[File:UltraMagnustotheRescue Scourge.jpg|upright=0.75|thumb|What do you think of my breast-reduction surgery?]]
Sent by Megatron to help Sky-Byte steal an experimental nuclear generator from a facility in [[Arizona]], he and the Predacon bickered at length, until the arrival of Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus. After an unsuccessful attempt to engage Magnus in combat, during which he was slammed against the building, he realized that the Autobots' concern for the humans would be their downfall. Threatening the nearest human with his sword, Scourge commanded the two Autobots to surrender.

When Sky-Byte protested that this wasn't part of the mission, Scourge accused him of becoming soft. Magnus and Prime, after a brief discussion, agreed to surrender. Scourge raised his sword to strike them down, however he was interrupted by the Predacons making their escape with the nuclear generator. The distraction allowed Prime and Magnus to simultaneously punch Scourge in the face, and he and his Decepticons set out in pursuit of the Predacons. {{storylink|Ultra Magnus...to the Rescue?}}

===''Robots in Disguise'' toy bios===
A no-nonsense field commander, Scourge was created when Megatron scanned both a tanker truck and Optimus Prime; consequently, Scourge especially resented the Autobot leader. {{storylink|#Robots in Disguise (2001)|''Robots in Disguise'' Super Class Scourge toy bio}}

Galvatron placed [[Axer (G1)|Axer]] under Scourge's leadership, but Axer resented Scourge. {{storylink|Axer (G1)#Robots in Disguise (2001)|''Robots in Disguise'' Axer toy bio}}

===Shell Game continuity===
In [[Viron 704.31 Epsilon]], Scourge challenged Megazarak for leadership of the Predacon/Decepticon forces following the death of Megatron. Megazarak appeared to back down only to poison his rival with [[Tox-En]]. He then recycled Scourge's chassis with a new mind, creating [[Toxitron (Universe)|Toxitron]]. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/07/30}}

===Ask Vector Prime===
[[File:RiD2001 DestructiconScourge CardArt.jpg|left|thumb|Confused by his sword-less hand.]]
In [[Viron 403.0 Beta]], the [[Destructicon (RID)|Destructicon]]s, including Scourge, [[Bludgeon (RID 2001)|Bludgeon]], [[Dreadwind (RID)|Dreadwind]], and [[Smokejumper]], were the subordinates of [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]], their God Emperor Supreme. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/11}} They fought against the [[Dinobot (Dinobots)|Dinobots]], the sole remaining Autobot resistance in their universe. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/05/29}} When Megazarak decided to conquer other universes, Scourge and his comrades accompanied their master to [[Aurex 304.0 Epsilon]], where they proceeded to curb-stomp all opposition. The victorious Destructicons were then abducted by [[Unicron]] for the [[Universe War]], but Scourge and Bludgeon's fate is unknown. {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/11}}

===Spychanger continuity===
In [[Viron 1103.12 Gamma]], [[Optimus Prime (Universe)#Spychanger continuity|Optimus Prime]] and Scourge were female. After Earth's energon was rendered toxic and the Predacons' stash blown up, only energy-saving Spychangers could stay active. Scourge was the only villain who could convert and unluckily found herself up against thirteen Autobots! {{storylink|Ask Vector Prime#Facebook|Ask Vector Prime, 2015/08/18}}

===''Legacy VS500 Collection Special Comic''===
The Scourge of the "RID Universe" competed in the [[Speedia 500]] for the chance to become leader of [[Velocitron]]. {{Storylink|Velocitron Speedia 500 Part 1}} His evil antics, including using his tanker's internal weapons and knocking [[Hauler|Road Hauler]] aside, forced [[Miko Tezuka]] and [[Clampdown (G1)|Clampdown]] to intervene in the race. Ultimately, it was all for naught as [[Override (Cybertron)|Override]] won the race, to Scourge's dismay. {{Storylink|Velocitron Speedia 500 Part 2}}

In the second week of the Speedia 500, the racers were confronted by a trio of new racers; one of which was [[Shadowstrip]], who shot out the lights in the tunnel he and Scourge were travelling through and disorientating the larger Decepticon. Scourge managed to reach the finish line again, but the winner was [[Galaxy Shuttle]] this time around. {{storylink|Velocitron Speedia 500 Part 3}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: Battle Tactics''===
[[File:BattleTacticsScourgeRID.jpg|250px|thumb|This [[sword]] is so hard to lug around!]]
Scourge participated in battles against a variety of opponents, both Autobots and Decepticons. Sometimes there were many of him! He was a Super Rare character who was available in the first Daily Campaign in May and could be recruited after collecting 20 Alpha cores, 20 Beta cores, 20 Omega cores, and 10 cores of this character. {{storylink|Transformers: Battle Tactics}}
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==Toys==
===''Robots in Disguise'' (2001)===
[[File:CarRobotsBlackConvoy.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Inverted G2 Black Laser Convoy Prime Clone. ''(Takara version pictured)'']]
[[File:RID-toy Scourge Ultra.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|This toy almost makes the black repaint craze worth it. ''(Hasbro version pictured)'']]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-p1|'''Black Convoy''' (2000)}}
{{Bp-d1|'''Scourge''' (Super Class, 2002)}}</ul>
:*''Takara ID number'': '''D-012'''
:*''Takara release date'': July ??, 2000
:*''Accessories'': "[[Sword of Fury#Toys|Black Sword/Sword of Fury]]", "Plasma Gun", 5 discs, 10 small missiles, 2 large missiles
{{toydesigner|[[Masakatsu Saito]] (concept artist)}}

: First released in the fifth wave of Takara's ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Car Robots]]'' toyline, "Black Convoy" is a [[redeco]] of the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#LaserOptimusPrime|Laser Optimus Prime]] mold, transforming into a Western Star 4964EX truck with black and teal paint apps, thick foil stickers, and pink transparent plastic that works exceptionally well for [[light-piping]]. The toy lacks all of Laser Prime's electronics to keep costs down, the entire back of the cab is now covered with a black sticker to hide the empty battery compartment.

: The chromed oil-tanker trailer has a top-mounted disc launcher, and opens up into a battle station. In this mode it has the disc launcher, a spring-loaded five-missile launcher (which can also be held in the robot's hand), a large air-pressure rocket launcher, plus the robot's double-barreled Plasma Gun can be mounted at the top of the tower. All of these weapons can be stored inside the trailer mode. Care should be taken when opening the trailer into base mode, as the springs in this version are very strong compared to other releases, and will scratch the chrome sides by slamming them into the ground. The toy also suffers from mild mold wear in that the Plasma Gun's rear clip is somewhat warped and the figure's shoulders have a harder time staying upright than Laser Prime's. Due to the ''Generation 2'' Autobot symbols sculpted on Black Convoy's launcher discs, [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] made Black Convoy's faction symbol the ''Generation 2'' Autobot one, but upside down. By extension, this also explains the faction symbol for the [[Commando (RID)|Combatrons]].

: The later Hasbro ''Robots in Disguise'' release of the toy, under the name "Scourge", was sold [[exclusive]]ly at [[Toys"R"Us]] in the USA, released in May of 2002. The clear pink plastic has been replaced with blood red, the metallic gray plastics are a darker shade, the stickers are now matte gray with Decepticon logos instead of silver foil with "negative-Autobot" logos, the sword tip is blunted, and the discs are [[retool]]ed to remove the faction symbol altogether (save the small hole in the crest) with thicker edges. Notable paint changes are that Scourge has Decepticon sigils [[tampograph]]ed on his doors, while lacking Black Convoy's teal stripes along the sides of the cab's nose. The license plate sticker on the tanker now states "SCOURGE D-012" (a reference to Black Convoy's ID Number). The toy lacks electronics like the Takara release, but instead of having a large sticker over the battery compartment, the battery lid is simply glued shut.

: Early specimens of Scourge sold via the Toys"R"Us website had the Hasbro stickers and mold changes, but retained the Japanese cab [[paint operation]]s and pink plastic. A later [[variant#running changes|running change variant]] leaves the bottom finger of both hands unpainted for whatever reason.

: This toy was later released by [[Sonokong]] as ''Car Bot'' Black Convoy in [[South Korea]], with the Hasbro Scourge paint and retooled discs but with Takara Black Convoy's foil stickers and pointy sword.

: Scourge's box has one of the [http://www.tfarchive.com/toys/mistransformed/images/rid_scourge_box.jpg worst stock photos ever], depicting the figure about half transformed—his shoulders are folded down oddly and his legs haven't been extended at all, making him hilariously stubby. Considering how simple the figure is and how bad the crude early photoshoppery looks, one can only assume there was a hell of a tight deadline. Similar errors would continue to make their way into other stock images of the toy.

::* ''[http://www.tfu.info/2000/Destron/BlackConvoy/blackconvoy.htm More information on Black Convoy at TFU.info]''
::* ''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Decepticon/Scourge/scourge.htm More information on Scourge at TFU.info]''
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[[File:RID-toy ScourgeSpyChanger.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Sword-less fury!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''X-Brawn / Scourge''' (Basic Class, 2002)}}</ul>

: Released in the fourth wave of ''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|Robots in Disguise]]'' Basic figures, Scourge is a simplified [[Spychanger]]-styled version of [[Optimus_Prime_(Universe)#Notes|her]] larger toy. Aside from being the only all-new tooling toy of the character, she features high speed axles and can roll very well across smooth surfaces, but lacks the weight to propel her quickly. She was only available in a 2-pack with a similarly-styled version of [[X-Brawn#Spychanger|X-Brawn]].

: As with most of the new ''Robots in Disguise'' releases, the X-Brawn / Scourge pack was available in Japan as a "USA Edition" mass-released toy.

: This mold was later redecoed ''both'' as Generation 1 "Spy Changer" [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Universe (2003)|Optimus Prime]] in the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' toyline, and as "Movie" [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Optimus Prime Figure|Optimus Prime]] for a Japanese pack-in DVD exclusive.

: This toy was [[Repurposing|repurposed]] as [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Generation 1 Nemesis Prime]] in [[Transformers: Renegade Rhetoric|Renegade Rhetoric]].

::* ''[http://www.tfu.info/2002/Decepticon/ScourgeGobot/scourge.htm More information on Spychanger Scourge at TFU.info]''

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[[File:RID-toy ScourgeDestructon.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Not very heroic anymore.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Destructicon Scourge''' (Deluxe Class, 2003)}}</ul>
:*''Takara release date'': [[February 20]], 2003
:*''Accessories:'' Gun, 2 rockets
:*''Known designers: [[Andrew Frankel]] (Hasbro, deco artist)

: [[Destructicon (RID)|Destructicon]] Scourge is a black redeco of ''Generation 2'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#HeroOptimusPrime|Hero Optimus Prime]], transforming into a sleek longnose Kenworth truck with a very large rocket launcher/bellows assembly on the back end. In either truck or [[robot mode]], this launcher fires the two large rockets with air power from the bellows; the quicker/harder it's slammed, the further the rocket flies. The launcher is "permanently" affixed to the truck bed/Scourge's right arm. The two rubber-tipped rockets can be stored on clips on the sides of the truck bed, which end up on his back in robot mode.

: By the time this toy was released, its tooling had degraded somewhat since Hero Optimus Prime's original production run. As a result, neither robot nor [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] hold together very well on many specimens. Keeping his missiles stored can be difficult, as they may pop out from their storage clips involuntarily. Additionally, initial shipments appear to have been missing a certain part that allowed the waist to ratchet, instead letting it spin freely.

: Over time, the rubber portions on the missiles and hose degrade also considerably faster than previous versions.

: Scourge and his fellow Destructicon [[Bludgeon (RID 2001)#Robots in Disguise (2001)|Bludgeon]] were [[exclusive]] to [[KB Toys]] in the United States, released under the ''Robots in Disguise'' banner in May of 2003, long after the series had been replaced with ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', which explains why they used the same packaging style. Additionally, they were also available at retail in the United Kingdom four months after their release in the United States, complete with [[multilingual packaging|European packaging]], but instead exclusive to [[Toys"R"Us]]. Both were also Toys"R"Us Japan exclusives, sold as "[[USA Edition]]s" in slightly-altered US packaging (basically just some Japanese-language stickers for legal info was applied to them).

::* ''[http://www.tfu.info/2003/Decepticon/Scourge/scourge.htm More information on Destructicon Scourge at TFU.info]''
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===''Timelines''===
[[File:TL-toy ScourgeTFSS.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Now with bigger shoulders!]]
*'''Scourge''' (TFSS 1.0, 2013) 
:*''TFSS1 number'': '''1'''
:*''Accessories'': [[Sword of Fury#Timelines|Sword of Fury]]

: A black and teal [[redeco]] of ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)#RTS|Reveal the Shield]]'' Deluxe Class [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Optimus Prime]], ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' Scourge transforms into a longnosed "racing" truck cab, adorned with the Japanese-style "Anti-Cybertron" symbols rather than Decepticon branding. He comes with a sword that he can wield with both hands, and is folded up and stored between his legs in truck mode, forming the fifth wheel. Scourge also has a (non-detachable) matrix gimmick in robot mode formed by a relief pattern on the inside of the cab's side windows, and is visible through the windshield/chest in robot mode. He is also very articulated and poseable, even featuring ankles and wrists that are both ball-jointed and hinged.

: Scourge was the first of six [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] [[exclusive]] figures to be shipped out via the "[[Transformers Figure Subscription Service]]" in 2013. The final version lacks the heat-sensitive [[rubsign]] seen in the promotional mockup for the toy, which used a Photoshopped image of the rubsign-having original toy as its base.

: This toy was also used to make [[BotCon 2012]] [[Optimus Prime (SG)#BotCon2012|''Shattered Glass'' Optimus Prime]], and was retooled into [[Ultra Magnus (SG)#Timelines|''Shattered Glass'' Ultra Magnus]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/TFSSScourge/scourge.htm More information on ''Timelines'' Scourge at TFU.info]''
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===''Legends''===
[[File:TF-legends-LG-EX-Black-Convoy.jpg|300px|thumb|Now with less SYMBOLISM.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-cm|'''Black Convoy''' ([[2015]])}}</ul>
:*''ID number'': '''LG-EX'''
:*''Release date'': [[June 21]], 2015
:*''Accessories'': [[Sword of Fury#Legends|Black Sword]]

:Debuting as a [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2015 exclusive, ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' Black Convoy is another redeco of ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)#RTS|Reveal the Shield]]'' Deluxe Class [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Optimus Prime]]. While it broadly resembles ''Timelines'' Scourge, its plastic colors and painted deco more specifically match the original ''Car Robots'' Black Convoy figure, with such details as the teal striping on the truck cab and "Anti-Autobot" Combatron symbols on the robot shoulders.

:Interestingly, though this toy was announced to the public less than one month before its release, that was still enough time for a change to the painted deco: the packaging and widespread [[Stock photography|stock photographs]] show silver paint on the robot's inner forearms, but this paint was absent from the final toy.

:Unlike all other ''Legends'' releases, both this and the Voyager Class figure below buck the trend of using both the character's Japanese Takara name ("Black Convoy") in katakana and its English Hasbro name ("Scourge") in Latin script by instead using only the Japanese Takara name in both Japanese and English text.
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[[File:TF-Legends-LGEX-Headmaster-Black-Convoy.jpg|300px|thumb|The Return of Dark Laser.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-cm|'''Black Convoy''' ([[2017]])}}</ul>
:*''ID number'': '''LG-EX'''
:*''Release date'': [[June 3]], 2017
:*''Accessories'': [[Sword of Fury#Voyager|Black Sword]], Double-barreled rifle, Headmaster

:Debuting as a [[Tokyo Toy Show]] 2017 exclusive, this Black Convoy is a redeco of ''[[Titans Return (toyline)|Titans Return]]'' Voyager Class [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#TRVoyager|Optimus Prime]], transforming from robot to tanker truck to plane and back. His deco is heavily based on his [[#Toys|original ''Car Robots'' toy]]. He comes with a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]] redecoed from [[Diac#Generations|Diac]] which transforms from a small robot representing his original identity as a heroic Autobot protoform, into his own post-scanning head (but any [[Titan Master]] or ''Legends'' Headmaster is compatible) and he has built-in spring-loaded pylons to "bulk up" his noggin, although this step was optional according to the stock photos.

:The [[Legends Comic: Bonus Edition Vol. EX (Black Convoy 2)|included mini-manga]] also depicts a fourth mode the toy can be transformed into, a base mode inspired by the [[#Car Robots|original Black Convoy toy]]'s trailer base. The manga also features [[Black Convoy Mass Production Type Drone]]s that can be recreated using the toy by repurposing the jet mode engine as a one-eyed head.

:Due to unexpectedly high demand, TakaraTomy took the unusual step of producing a second run of this figure, which were made available from [[TakaraTomy Mall]] on [[November 30]], 2017.<ref>http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/tokyo-toy-show-2017-exclusive-legends-black-convoy.1106395/page-25#post-14744370</ref>

:This mold was also retooled into [[Octane#Titans Return|Octone]].
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===''Legacy''===
[[File:TF-Legacy-Velocitron-Speedia-500-Scourge.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Scourge of the Universe/Universal Collapse]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-cm|'''Robots in Disguise 2000 Universe Scourge''' (Leader Class, [[2022]])}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''TL EX-08'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[February 25]], [[2023]]
:*''Accessories'': Energon axe, Energon sword, Matrix
:*''Known designers'': [[Sam Smith]] (Hasbro)<ref>Sam Smith's [https://www.instagram.com/p/CfJ_6pIu02K/ Instagram] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CfKAH2rOZR3/ posts] [https://www.instagram.com/p/CfKATvXOpqx/ about] Legacy Scourge</ref>

: ''[[Transformers: Legacy]] [[Transformers: Legacy#Walmart|Velocitron Speedia 500 Collection]]'' "Robots in Disguise 2000 Universe Scourge" (phew!) is a [[redeco]] of ''Legacy'' Leader Class [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#Legacy|Laser Optimus Prime]], transforming into a mid-1990s Western Star 4964EX tanker truck. Though he keeps his Hasbro "Scourge" name, the flipped Autobot symbols are from the Takara ''Car Robots'' Black Convoy deco. In fact, this toy's [[case|shipping case]], advance listings on many online dealer sites, and [[Walmart]] shelf tags had the name "Black Convoy", suggesting a late-stage name change.

: Scourge's tanker trailer can convert into a battle station, complete with adjustable turret. Scourge also has a deep magenta (in contrast to Scourge's usual blood red or Black Convoy's lighter pink) transparent Energon axe and sword, which can store inside his trailer when not used and can combine to create a larger sword. The axe and sword can store either inside the trailer or on the cab, with the sword storing underneath the rear section of the cab like the original and the axe slotting in over the trailer hitch. In tanker mode, the trailer's claw arm can be folded down to act as a jack to allow it to stand freely. He also includes a magenta and silver Matrix, with the casing of the Matrix core left unpainted. The Matrix can be attached to the axe or the combined sword, using the rectangular peg near the axe's haft (normally meant to keep the handle folded neatly for storage). However, it doesn't stand out much due to using mostly the same color scheme. His signature shoulder pylons can open outwards to reveal missile pods. The chest slot where the Matrix plugs in is open in the back, seemingly meant to allow for [[light piping]] in robot mode. Unlike Laser Optimus Prime, Scourge's head light-piping is left intact.

:As the sword accessory is designed for this mold's open hands, it cannot be wielded by other figures with closed 5mm hands due to the protruding tab on the handle.

: Scourge's robot mode features a new deco compared to previous versions, making almost the entire torso black. This is a deliberate choice, as Hasbro designer [[Sam Smith]] cited his unfamiliarity with the character, as well as the desire to better match the truck cab's appearance of black framing pink windows.<ref>{{citesocial|quote=the chest color was an intention design decision on my part. The upper chest is molded in the clear pink, so we had reign over the color that was painted. I chose black vs gray due to the windshield frame of the truck being black (I always assume they should match) but I’m hearing otherwise on this guy|link=https://www.instagram.com/p/CfJ_6pIu02K/|name=Sam Smith|site=Instagram|title=SPEEDIA 500 VELOCITRON RID SCOURGE|year=2022|month=06|day=23}}</ref> Moreover, [[Mark Maher]]'s request to paint the tanker silver meant that they could not afford to paint the shoulders. Scourge's truck mode's usual teal accent lines have also been reimagined as more elaborate pinstriping. The resulting deco coincidentally makes this Scourge reminiscent of [[Nemesis Prime (G1)|Nemesis Prime]]. Some stock pictures feature his cab mistransformed, not having his gas canisters on the sides flipped out. His instruction booklet uses the G2 Autobot symbol correctly oriented as opposed to upside-down ones the toy has.

: The ''Velocitron Speedia 500 Collection'' was exclusive to [[Walmart]] in the US, with [[Hasbro Pulse]] receiving limited quantities of the figure. The series went up for pre-order on [[July 21]], 2022, and started arriving in stores by [[August 1]]. The series was a [[TakaraTomy Mall]] exclusive in Japan, and a Farmers department store exclusive in New Zealand.

: This mold was also used to make [[Toxitron (Universe)#Legacy|Toxitron]].

==Notes==
* While the honor of ''first'' evil black clone of an heroic leader goes to [[Black Lio Convoy]], Scourge's snazzy color scheme set the tone for future [[black redeco]]s representing evil doppelgängers that continues to this day.
* An unrealized ''[[Transformers: Wings Universe|Wings Universe]]'' story would have featured Scourge, based on his TFSS toy, as one of [[Jhiaxus (G2)#Wings Universe|Jhiaxus]]'s clones. A conflicted Scourge would have led Jhiaxus's forces in taking down [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]].<ref>[http://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/128200-new-tcc-prose-counterpunch-story-the-truth-we-make/?p=3229535 Post on the Allspark Forums by Pete@BotCon (Pete Sinclair), 2016/05/12]</ref><ref>[https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/135573-wings-universecannonball-loose-ends/?p=3406634 Post on the Allspark Forums by NightViper (Jesse Wittenrich), 2016/12/23]</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Black Convoy''' (ブラックコンボイ ''Burakku Konboi''), '''Scourge''' (スカージ ''Sukāji'')
*''Korean:'' '''Black Convoy''' (블랙콘보이 ''Beullaek Konboi'')

==Gallery==
<gallery>
File:Transformers Legends EX Black Convoy.jpg
</gallery>

==References==
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[[Category:Armada Decepticons]]
[[Category:Car Robots Predacons]]
[[Category:Convoys]]
[[Category:Decepticon leaders]]
[[Category:Destructicons]]
[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]
[[Category:E-HOBBY exclusives]]
[[Category:Evil clones]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Generation 2 Autobots]]
[[Category:Headmasters]]
[[Category:KB Toys exclusives]]
[[Category:Legacy Decepticons]]
[[Category:Legends Predacons]]
[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2001) Decepticons]]
[[Category:Spychangers]]
[[Category:TakaraTomy Mall exclusives]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Triple Changers]]
[[Category:Toys"R"Us exclusives]]
[[Category:Toys"R"Us Japan exclusives]]
[[Category:Unite Warriors characters]]
[[Category:Variable gender characters]]

Rampage (ROTF)

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:''Rampage is a [[Decepticon]] [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] from the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:HftDRampageWallpaper.jpg|thumb|350px|Try yellow, it's the new red.]]

'''Rampage''' (alias '''Lasher''' and '''Whipmaster'''<ref>"The Most Wanted Decepticons" card from Rampage Among The Ruins</ref>) is a pretty violent guy. A member of the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]], he can be followed by the trail of destruction as he wrecks his way through the battlefield, leaving the smell of diesel fumes and hot tar in his wake. His chassis is covered with scratches, dings and dents as a testament to his intense love of battle. Thoroughly whacked in the cranial unit, his idea of beauty is a pile of [[Autobot]] wreckage.

There are at least two 'bots of the same model that come in red and yellow. Either one of them can form the left leg of [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]. He used to call himself '''Skipjack''', but renamed himself to avoid confusion with [[Skipjack (ROTF)|another Constructicon]] of the same body-type.

==Fiction==
===''Revenge of the Fallen'' film===
{{voiceactor|[[Kevin Michael Richardson]] (credited as "Skipjack")}}

[[File:ROTF_movie_BumblebeevsRampage.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.6|I can't feel my legs! Oh, right.]]
After [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] retrieved the shard from [[NEST]]'s secure bunker in [[Diego Garcia]], Rampage was among the Constructicons who secreted themselves aboard the ''[[Bayos]]'' freighter heading towards the North Atlantic. Once the ship passed over the [[Laurentian Abyss]], Ravage flew onto the ship and accidentally crash-landed on Rampage. Once they reached the specific site, the Decepticons jumped overboard and dove down to where [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s broken body lay. When [[Scalpel (ROTF)|Scalpel]] examined Megatron's body, he ordered the death of [[Scrapmetal (ROTF)|the smallest Constructicon]] for donor parts, which they obliged. Soon, Megatron was reborn!

[[File:ROTF Rampage dead.jpg|thumb|upright=1.6|I told you not to go there!]]
During [[Operation: Firestorm]], Rampage was waiting in the [[Egypt]]ian town to lure [[Sam Witwicky]] into a trap by releasing his captive parents, [[Ron Witwicky|Ron]] and [[Judy Witwicky|Judy]]. Sam was willing to trade the remains of the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] for his parents, but when he realized [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] had arrived, the boy managed to position Rampage for an attack. After a long battle (which also resulted in the death of Ravage), Bumblebee finished Rampage by ripping his arms off and over-extending his neck with a powerful kick, killing him. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

{{note|Rampage's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, were also chronicled in the novel ''[[The Last Prime]]''; the comic mini-series ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation]]''; and the storybooks "[[I Am Optimus Prime (ROTF)|I Am Optimus Prime]]" and "[[Rise of the Decepticons]]".}}

===IDW movie comics===
Rampage's body type was one of the early "construction drones" used to build [[Star Harvester]]s. One of the Rampages, who was neither red ''nor'' yellow, joined [[the Fallen]]'s original Decepticons. He tried to battle the turncoat [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]] and was quickly taken out. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 3|Tales of the Fallen #3}} {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 4|Tales of the Fallen #4}}

===Toy bios===
Rampage lives for combat, finding happiness in the violence that ensues. He has heard stories of Bumblebee’s skill and was looking forward to testing himself against it. He could already imagine his whips tearing his enemy's armor to pieces. {{storylink|#RedDeluxe|N.E.S.T. Global Alliance Rampage}}

Rampage and [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] burst from their cover when they found [[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]] and [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]] hunting them. While Sideways battled Longarm through the streets, Rampage's incredible strength made him more than a match for Breakaway. {{storylink|#StrikeMission|Autobot Strike Mission toy bio}}

Besides Bumblebee, another Autobot that Rampage hated was that [[Landmine (Movie)|Landmine]]. {{storylink|#LandmineVsRampage|Landmine VS Rampage}}

Rampage's last known location during the [[Hunt for the Decepticons]] was a junkyard in Chicago, where he was recuperating from heavy damage (presumably that suffered in his last fight with Bumblebee). {{storylink|#RampageAmongTheRuins|Rampage Among The Ruins}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers: The Ride – 3D''===
Rampage was among the Decepticons that attacked the grand opening of the new [[NEST|N.E.S.T.]] training facility. Optimus, Bumblebee and N.E.S.T. managed to repel the attack. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ride – 3D Grand Opening (Orlando)}}

==Toys==
{{note|As of 2020, Hasbro's stance on the yellow bulldozer forming Devastator's leg appears to have changed; [[retcon]]ing [[Skipjack (ROTF)|Skipjack]] in place of Rampage (see: [[Skipjack (ROTF)#Who is Skipjack?]]). This would mean that the combining Rampage toys from the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline [[Repurposing|could also be considered]] Skipjack.}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====Legends Class====
[[File:ROTF-toy Rampage Legends.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Also known as Rampage "Three Legs" Skipjackson.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Decepticon Rampage''' (EZ Collection DX, [[2009]])}}</ul>
:*''ID number:'' '''D3'''
:*''Release date'': [[July 23]] 2009
{{toydesigner|[[Hironori Kobayashi]] (TakaraTomy)}}

: Part of the Takara "[[EZ Collection]]" series, Rampage transforms into a bulldozer similar to a Komatsu D575A. His robot mode is only capable of assuming his "jackhammer" mode, but the treads on the sides of his lower body help keep him upright.

: He can also combine with the other six Constructicons (sold separately) to form a tiny little [[Devastator (ROTF)#Legends Class|Devastator]]: Rampage becomes the combined mode's left leg.

: This mold was also used to make [[Bonecrusher (ROTF Constructicon)|Bonecrusher]] for the Japanese-exclusive Generation 1-colored Devastator set.

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<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Constructicon Devastator''' (Legends Class multi-pack, [[2010]])}}</ul>

: In [[Hasbro]]'s markets, the Legends Class Constructicons were sold together in a 7-pack. They are otherwise identical to the prior Takara releases. In the United States and Canada, said exclusive lies with [[Walmart]]. In the United Kingdom, the set was only available through Argos.

: This set also included [[Hightower (ROTF)#Toys|Hightower]], [[Long Haul (ROTF)#Toys|Long Haul]], [[Mixmaster (ROTF)#Toys|Mixmaster]], [[Overload (ROTF)#Toys|Overload]], [[Scavenger (ROTF)#Toys|Scavenger]], and [[Scrapper (ROTF)#Toys|Scrapper]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/WMRampage/rampage.htm More information on Legends Rampage at TFU.info]''

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<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Decepticon Rampage Desert Combat''' (Legends Class multi-pack, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''Release date'': [[November 21]] 2009

: A red [[redeco]] of Rampage was made available as an exclusive to Japanese [[Toys"R"Us]] stores in late November. Limited to 4000 pieces, he came as a free gift with the purchase of 3000 yen of TakaraTomy ''Transformers'' product.
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====Deluxe Class====
[[File:ROTF-Rampage-yellow.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|He can whip it. Whip it good.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Rampage''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''RD-06'''
{{toydesigner|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

:Rampage transforms from a yellow bulldozer similar to a {{w|Komatsu D575A}} into one of two robot mode configurations, the first of which (his actual in-fiction robot form) lacks any functional legs, instead featuring a spring-loaded "jackhammer" assembly. When the figure is bounced along the ground in this mode, his [[Mech Alive]] feature is activated, and a pair of pistons that frame his head pump back and forth. If legs are preferred, his jackhammer splits and his elaborate [[kibble]] backpack unfolds, together forming four leg-struts to create a free-standing robot form that is rather centaurian in design. Though not mentioned in the instructions or package, the aforementioned backpack can remain folded in robot mode for a more movie-accurate, two-legged 'play' mode of sorts. He features real rubber treads which become arm-mounted whip weapons in robot mode but due to the design, the treads themselves do not function in vehicle mode.

:Like several toys in the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' toyline, Rampage has had a mold change done somewhere between his instructions being drawn up and the final version of the toy. On the final toy, the rear flap behind the cabin of the bulldozer runs into a screw section used to hold the robot pelvis together. This change also affects where the rear flap and the bulldozer shovel connect in robot mode. On the instructions, this flap is shown as folding flat against the back of the vehicle and said flap is also folded down much farther in robot mode to connect to the shovel. The mold change seems to account for the shovel connection issue in robot mode, but not the problem in vehicle mode. Unlike some others, this change does not directly affect any of the toy's action features or articulation.

:Much like several other ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toys, Rampage is based on [[:File:ROTF-Rampage-concept-art.jpg|very early concept art]], depicting a robot form with a very rectangular "jackhammer" leg (most forms of concept art that came beyond this point had his "jackhammer" leg designed to be more like a curvy "tail", much like the final film's CGI model).

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/Rampage/rampage.htm More information on Rampage at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTFAutobotStrikeMission.jpg|thumb|300px]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Autobot Strike Mission''' (Multi-pack, 2009)}}</ul>

:Available as a [[Sam's Club]]-[[exclusive]], Rampage was packed with ''Movie'' [[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]], [[Breakaway (ROTF)|Breakaway]] and a "battle damaged" version of [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]].

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[[File:ROTF_Deluxe_Red_Rampage.jpg|300px|thumb|Has probably never fought [[Depth Charge (BW)|Depth Charge]], sadly. (''Hasbro version pictured'')]]
[[File:ROTF_Deluxe_Desert_Combat_Rampage.jpg|upright=1.4|thumb|All is darkness. (''TakaraTomy version pictured'')]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Rampage''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy name:'' '''Decepticon Rampage Desert Combat'''
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''RD-21'''

:As a redeco of Rampage's first Deluxe Class toy in red, this release of Rampage represents a more [[show-accuracy|movie accurate]] version of the Rampage who fought Bumblebee in Egypt. Hasbro's version of red Rampage is a straight colour swap, with his yellow plastic replaced with red plastic. As one of the last two figures released in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' deluxe assortment, the red version of Rampage and his casemate [[Evac (Movie)|Evac]] were insanely difficult (if not impossible) to find in U.S. retail stores.

:TakaraTomy went much further than Hasbro with their version of red Rampage, dubbed "Decepticon Rampage Desert Combat"; Rampage features redecoing on his shovel blade to match the one used on the Rampage prop vehicle seen in the movie (including horizontal lines to match the slatted look of the prop). The figure also features a more screen-accurate red and yellow color scheme, much like his on-screen counterpart.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/Rampage/rampage.htm More information on N.E.S.T. Rampage at TFU.info]''
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====Supreme Combiner Class====
[[File:TF-ROTF-Combiner-Class-Devastator-Rampage.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|He joined the Constructicons since Bob the Builder didn't want him.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Constructicon Devastator''' (Supreme Combiner Class, 2009)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Takio Ejima]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Shogo Hasui]] (initial concept)}}

:Rampage is the yellow Caterpillar D11 bulldozer that transforms into the left leg of Devastator. Like the other Constructicons in this set, he does not have an individual robot mode. He can only form Devastator's left leg, unless you want him to walk backwards. He has the code "AN-KA 111308" imprinted below his Decepticon symbol.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/SupRampage/rampage.htm More information on Combiner Rampage at TFU.info]''
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====''Mega Power Bots''====
[[File:ROTF MegaPowerBots Devastator.jpg|right|300px|thumb]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Constructicon Devastator''' (Mega Power Bot, 2009)}}</ul>

: [[Power Bots|Mega Power Bots]] Devastator is a simple toy for younger children, featuring plenty of playing sounds and flashing lights. His limbs have limited swivel articulation and do not detach into separate vehicles. He has a distinctly more humanoid stature than normal.

: Unlike regular [[Power Bots]], and unlike other portrayals of the character in general, Devastator features a transformation! It consists of putting his arms up and laying him flat on his stomach, which lets him roll around using the wheels on his limbs.

: Pressing down the Decepticon shield on his crotch (!) spins the vortex in his chest, lights up his eyes and makes him utter one of many Welker-recorded phrases, including [[The Transformers: The Movie|"Prepare for extermination!"]], "Crush Autobots!" and "I am Devastator!" Pressing on the crane of his excavator arm makes a cannon blast sound effect, while pressing the cab of his loader arm turns the scoop into claws.
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===''Transformers'' (2010)===
[[File:TF2010-toy_Legends_Rampage.jpg|right|300px|thumb|I peench]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Rampage''' (Legends Class, 2010)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Joe Kyde]] (Hasbro)}}

:This Legends Class Rampage is different from ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends Class Rampage. Because he is not encumbered with the need to combine, both his robot and vehicle modes are much more accurate and detailed. His "jackhammer" mode can be achieved by connecting his legs together and flipping his cab-feet down as the tip (as per the [[stock photography|stock photos]]), although he will not be able to stand up well. Meanwhile, his [[instructions]] depict a more stable biped configuration, with his legs spread out and his cab-feet folded back in their vehicle mode position as his heels.

:This mold was redecoed into [[Skipjack (ROTF)|Skipjack]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/LegRampage/rampage.htm More information on Legends Rampage at TFU.info]

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[[File:TF2010-toy_Legends_green_Rampage.jpg|right|300px|thumb|You mean I'm neither yellow nor red? Well, that's a shock.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Constructicon Devastator''' (Legends Class multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>

:A [[Toys"R"Us]]-exclusive Generation 1-themed redeco of Legends Devastator and his components. Unlike TakaraTomy's go at the same idea, Rampage and the other Constructicons are mostly just lime green and gray, with the only bits of purple being their windshields. They do, however, have brown [[paint operation]]s on and around their wheels to simulate dirt.

:He's also still Rampage, whereas TakaraTomy's version is a different character named [[Bonecrusher (ROTF Constructicon)|Bonecrusher]].

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[[File:TF2010toy-RampageAmongtheRuinsStock.jpg|right|thumb|300px]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Rampage Among The Ruins''' (Multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

:This Toys"R"Us-exclusive multi-pack contains a more screen-accurate red redeco of Deluxe-class Rampage, with a deco similar, but not identical to that of the Japanese Desert Combat Rampage. He is packed with [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#RampageAmongTheRuins|Bumblebee]] and [[Ravage (ROTF)#RampageAmongTheRuins|Ravage]], replicating the battle scene that led to the two Decepticons' deaths in ''Revenge of the Fallen''.

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[[File:TF2010MegsRisingMegsAndConstructs.jpg|thumb|300px]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Megatron Rising''' (Multi-pack)}}</ul>

:This retailer exclusive multi-pack recreates the scene in ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' where the Constructicons resurrect Megatron. The Rampage figure itself appears to be an unchanged version from the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' release of the Legends Constructicon Devastator combiner figure, and comes packed with (apparently) similarly unchanged Constructicon Devastator figures of [[Long Haul (ROTF)#MegatronRising|Long Haul]], [[Mixmaster (ROTF)#MegatronRising|Mixmaster]], a red redeco of [[Scrapper (ROTF)#MegatronRising|Scrapper]], and a metallic green redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Voyager Class [[Megatron (Movie)/toys#MegatronRising|Megatron]].

:It has never been revealed for which retailer this multi-pack was intended.
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===''Movie Advanced Series''===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Devastator''' (Gift set, [[2014]])}}</ul>
:*''ID number:'' '''AD13'''

: Released as part of Takara's [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (toyline)#Movie Advanced Series|Movie Advanced Series]] Devastator set, Rampage is a redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends Rampage to closely resemble his on-screen portrayal.
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===''Studio Series''===
[[File:Studio-Series-MV2-37-Voyager-Rampage.jpg|thumb|upright=2.2|The Jerkhammer.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Constructicon Rampage''' (Voyager Class, [[2019]])}}</ul>
:*''Movie'': '''''Revenge of the Fallen'''''
:*''Hasbro ID number'': '''37'''
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''SS-33'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[April 27]], 2019
:*''Accessories'': 2 hand blasters, base, "[[Operation: Firestorm|Pyramid Desert Battle]]" backdrop (2nd version)
{{toydesigner|[[Mike Booth]] (Hasbro), [[Shogo Hasui]] (TakaraTomy)}}

[[File:TF-ROTF-Studio-Series-Rampage-misassembled-waist.jpg|left|200px|thumb]]
:Released in time for the tenth anniversary of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', ''[[Studio Series]]'' "Constructicon Rampage" is accurate to the character's appearance in ''Revenge of the Fallen'', complete with tiny painted warning labels in his armpits. He comes with two blasters, made from the pistons of his vehicle mode, that can be placed inside his hand, and a cardboard backdrop display depicting [[Operation: Firestorm]]. Owing to Rampage's unique monopod design, the figure also comes with a small black plastic base to help him stand (or you could try to balance him with the post on the bottom of his jackhammer), which can be stored between his treads in vehicle mode. In combined mode, the stand plugs into Devastator's rump.

:Unfortunately, all releases of Rampage suffer from a major misassembly: The joint that connects the upper and lower torsos, featuring a sculpted robot waist and a transmission unit, is flipped compared to the CG stock renders, resulting in the robot waist being present in bulldozer mode and vice-versa. The misassembly does not affect the transformation, though the pinned construction of the joint means it is risky to swap it around.

:Rampage can be combined with the other ''Studio Series'' [[Constructicon (ROTF)#Generations|Constructicons]] to form [[Devastator (ROTF)#Generations|Devastator]]. Though he was one of the first Constructicons to be released in the line, [[Hasbro]] originally intended for Rampage to be displayed alongside [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Studio Series|Bumblebee]], rather than being Devastator's leg. Rampage was later redecoed into [[Skipjack (ROTF)#Studio Series|Skipjack]], who had been the original intent for the combiner, but since both Skipjack and Rampage share the same design it gave fans the option to use Rampage instead if they wanted.

:Despite it not being mentioned in the instructions, Rampage's blasters fit very cleanly into the two vertical slots on the bulldozer's blade for storage. This is especially useful in foot mode since it completely frees up the ankle pivot when compared to their default placement. However, as the slots are coated in the same silver paint as the rest of the blade, care should be taken when inserting the guns so as to not chip the paint. It's recommended to place the blasters so their barrels point downward in foot mode for the easiest time with storing them. Bizarrely, the pistons even ''being'' blasters isn't touched on by the instructions at all, with them always being shown plugged into the body as the vehicle mode pistons.

:Like the majority of the ''Studio Series'' Constructicons, he lacks a Decepticon symbol.
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==Merchandise==
===''Robot Heroes''===
[[File:RobotHeroes_MudflapRampage.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He's ready to re-enact his favorite scenes from [[Simon Belmondo|Castlevania]] on Mudflap.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Mudflap & Rampage''' (Two-pack, 2009)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

: ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' Rampage is a cute little figure sculpted hitting the ground in his jackhammer mode. His stubby little whips are deployed, and he has swivel articulation in his shoulders. Rampage is only available in a two-pack with [[Mudflap (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Mudflap]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/RHRampage/rampage.htm More information on Rampage at TFU.info]''

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[[File:rotf desertdevastation rh.jpg|right|thumb|300px|I'm ''orange'' now? Come on!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Desert Devastation''' (Multi-pack, 2009)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:Rampage is the sculpted left leg of "Desert Devastation" [[Devastator (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Devastator]], a super-sized ''Robot Heroes'' figure. He is only available in a multi-pack with [[Skids (ROTF)#RHDevastation|Skids]] & [[Mudflap (ROTF)#RHDevastation|Mudflap]] in their combined vehicle mode and [[William Lennox#Robot Heroes|Captain William Lennox]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/RHConstructiconDevastator/devastator.htm More information on ''Robot Heroes'' Devastator at TFU.info]''
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===Burger King===
[[File:ROTFMerchandise-BurgerKingRampage.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Carved entirely from delicious butter.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-d1|'''Devastator''' (2009)}}</ul>
:An extremely-simplified version of Rampage's vehicle mode is included as part of [[Devastator (ROTF)#Burger King|Burger King Devastator]]. Though his ball socket is compatible with any of Devastator's limb connections, it's marked with a D to indicate he forms Devastator's left leg.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/BKDevastator/devastator.htm More information on Burger King Devastator at TFU.info]''
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===''RPMs - Robot Powered Machines''===
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[[File:ROTF-toy RampageRPM.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Just throw your whip-wielding claws up in the air!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Landmine VS Rampage''' (RPM Mini-Vehicle "Battle Series" pack, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''Number:'' '''06 of 08'''
{{toydesigner|[[Alex Androski]] (deco artist)}}

: Number six in a series of eight [[Robot Powered Machines#Mini-Vehicles|Robot Powered Machines Mini-Vehicle]] versus packs, "Battle Series" Rampage is packaged with the [[Autobot]] [[Landmine (Movie)|Landmine]]. He's a non-transformable ''[[Hot Wheels (franchise)|Hot Wheels]]''-like car, with his robot mode sculpted and painted onto his underside. He also features a slightly-articulated shovel, probably for better rolling on tracks. He has through-axle construction similar to the ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'' [[Go-Bot (G2)|Go-Bot]]s, letting him zip along smooth surfaces (and compatible racetrack sets) at high speed.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Decepticon/RPMRampage/rampage.htm More information on RPMs Rampage at TFU.info]''
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==Notes==
[[File:ROTF-RampageandUnknowndumptruck.jpg|thumb|250px|For those of you who thought [[FIRRIB]] was too retreaded, here's "RIRSIY"!]]
*Although his correct, finalized name is used in the film (in on-screen subtitles, to be precise), Rampage is listed in the credits under his preliminary name of "'''Skipjack'''". Much confusion ensued, since nobody had actually heard this preliminary name before. As seen in [http://www.otca.com.au/boards/showthread.php?p=137233#post137233 concept art], during production, Rampage was referred to as "'''Jumping Jack'''". [[TakaraTomy]] later used the name Skipjack for a [[Skipjack (ROTF)|yellow redeco of the 2010 Legends class Rampage toy]].
**[[Hasbro]] later released a yellow repaint of Rampage in the ''[[Studio Series]]'' toyline that also went by the name Skipjack as a means to give fans an accurate [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]. Although it hasn't officially been confirmed that Skipjack was the one who appeared in the film as Devastator's left foot, Hasbro employees who worked on ''Studio Series'' Devastator referred to Skipjack as being the yellow bulldozer from the film.<ref>[https://old.hasbropulse.com/blogs/unboxed/behindthedesign-transformers-devastator Behind the Design on Hasbro Pulse]</ref> As such the toy bios for both Rampage and Skipjack reflected this notion for their involvements in the film. A deeper look into this identity headache can be found on Skipjack's page.
*While Starscream calls the red bulldozer "Rampage", secondary sources such as early Devastator toys and ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|The Movie Universe]]'' refer to the yellow bulldozer who forms Devastator's left leg/foot as "Rampage". But as stated before, new information in [[2020]] from behind the scenes at Hasbro suggests that they may have [[retcon]]ned the yellow bulldozer's involvements in the film as actually being Skipjack.
*In the scene where all the Constructicons wait aboard the barge for [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] and the [[AllSpark]] shard to arrive, a red bulldozer representing Rampage is visible in the flyover shot. But in the next scene where Ravage crash-lands into Rampage upon arrival, the bulldozer is suddenly recolored yellow. When the Constructicons transform into robot mode and dive into the water, the bulldozer is colored red again.
**In short, it is Rampage (rather than Skipjack) who is present during Megatron's resurrection. Trying to distinguish how many Constructicons appeared in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' only continues to get harder with each watch.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Rampage''' (ランページ ''Ranpēji'')

==References==
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[[Category:Age of Extinction Decepticons]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Constructicons]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:Sam's Club exclusives]]
[[Category:Studio Series Decepticons]]
[[Category:Toys"R"Us exclusives]]
[[Category:Toys"R"Us Japan exclusives]]
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Decepticons]]
[[Category:Transformers with three modes]]
[[Category:Wal-Mart exclusives]]

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Official Armada/Micron Legend scale chart found online

Size changing

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[[File:Soundwave shrinks.gif|thumb|upright=1.4|A little known fact, but {{w|Wasp (character)|Wasp}} is Soundwave's cousin.]]

Although [[scale]] has never exactly been a deep concern when it comes to ''Transformers'', given that the series has featured F-15 jets not much larger than sports cars, it is not uncommon for certain Transformers to clearly and deliberately '''change size''' when transforming from one mode to the next. The methods employed for this startling alteration in physicality have differed from timeline to timeline, and have long been a heavily debated aspect of [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] technology.

{{quote|Decepticons Skywarp and Thundercracker transform and land. A tape player, three cassette tapes and a Walther P-38 fly forth from the towering twin titans. And astonishingly they enlarge hundreds of times over and change into Soundwave, Megatron, Frenzy, and Ravage!|[[Narrator]]|[[Prisoner of War!]]}}

==Examples==
Note that many of the Transformers named here have also transformed at certain times ''without'' shrinking or enlarging, retaining an [[alternate mode]] to scale with their [[robot mode]]. It doesn't help mass-shifting logic though. If anything it only results in ''more'' questions.

===Shrinking===
[[File:DarknessRising3-Arceesizechange.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Where does she ''keep'' it all?]]
The most famous examples of size-changing Transformers are [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]], who becomes a pistol, and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] and [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]], who both become stereo cassette players. These Transformers visibly shrink as they transform, assuming one of two sizes—one that allows another Transformer to wield or operate them, and another, even smaller size scaled to humans.

Other shrinking Transformers include [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]], the [[Mini-Cassette]]s, the three bots who make up [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]], and in some continuities, the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]]s. Reflector could be considered one of the worst, since that's ''three'' Transformers slightly over human-size combining into ''one'' form that's small enough for other robots - or humans - to take photographs with.

[[Overkill (G1)|Overkill]]'s ''[[The Transformers Universe (Marvel)|Transformers Universe]]'' bio notes that he has a defect in his transformation circuitry, which often results in him not being able to complete his transformation by not growing back to his robot mode's full size.

One of [[Deep Cover]]'s [[ability|abilities]] is being able to shrink to 1/40th his size for brief periods of time.

Shrinking into altmode is a property also shared by [[Transformers Animated (cartoon)|''Animated'']] [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] and [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|''Prime'']] [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]]. They both transform from motorcycles, which are about the size of a human, into full-sized Autobot warriors. In Prowl's case, he grows to be taller than [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]], who's a car, although he is much slimmer. ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' [[Signal Lancer (Cybertron)|Signal Lancer]] is another fine example, since Signal Lancer transforms from a normal-size traffic light into a robot big enough to wield the light-pole as a [[lance]].

''Animated'' [[Shockwave (Animated)|Shockwave]] was deployed undercover within [[Autobot boot camp|the Autobot ranks]] by [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]] specifically due to his stated size-changing abilities, allowing him to adopt a smaller Autobot-sized form in the guise of Longarm.<ref>[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac]]</ref>

The ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (games)|War for Cybertron]]'' video game and its [[Transformers: Fall of Cybertron (video game)|sequel]] mostly avoided this with most of the cast using animation models that stayed the same size. One exception occurred in the original game, a very blatant one, with [[Trypticon (WFC)|Trypticon]]. While his robot mode is undeniably huge, his alt mode, an orbital space station converted into a gun, was big enough to have an entire level set in it. Another case occurred in the sequel's multiplayer with a [[Titan (FOC)|Titan]] using the Beast body type, where going into the character's alt mode has them shrinking down while transforming so by the end they're still the same size as in robot mode. This was an obvious choice made for balancing, since doubling in size like [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] does in the campaign mode would make the Titan too big a target.

[[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdowns]] [[Lockdown (ROTF)|across the multiverse]] often transform from robots as tall as, if not taller than, [[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]] into sports cars whose lengths are barely half their heights.<ref>https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/lockdowns-real-height.1117363/</ref>

While the majority of characters in ''[[Transformers: BotBots (cartoon)|BotBots]]'' remain consistent between modes, a few with thinner altmodes shrink a bit to accommodate. Examples include [[Lady Macaron]], [[Playgor Cardquest]], and [[Vomit Comet]].

===Enlarging===
Conversely, Transformers have been known to grow in size when assuming their alternate modes—the most prominent example is surely [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], whose space shuttle mode could become large enough to convey a whole contingent of Decepticon warriors, and even allow [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] to form inside him without even bumping his head. Similarly, [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] transforms from a robot of roughly average size (occasionally depicted as somewhat tall, but never ''huge'') into a jet and then into an entire aircraft carrier, of the type used to transport '''dozens''' of jets. [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] is another good example, who has been able to transport whole Autobots in the back of his ambulance form during the cartoon, even [[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]], who turns into a jet. Other Transformers that enlarge in such a manner also generally do so for the purposes of transporting others; they include [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Jetfire (G1)|Skyfire]], [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]], and [[Grand Maximus]].

[[Combiner]]s are often larger in their combined form than their robot modes would otherwise indicate—in fact, in the episode "[[Chaos (episode)|Chaos]]," [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]] is explicitly shown to enlarge after his combination is complete. In the IDW continuity, the Constructicons (and [[Prowl (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Prowl]]) are explicitly shown to change size whenever they form Devastator. [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] mentions that not even Prowl's brain can grow large enough to fully accommodate Devastator's [[w:Brain-to-body mass ratio|brain-to-body-mass ratio]].

In the original animated series many of the Transformers arguably enlarged or shrank in [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]] to a lesser extent, this is most notable among groups such as the [[Seeker (body-type)|Decepticon]] [[Conehead|jets]] and [[Mini-Vehicle|minibots]], whose altmodes [[Scale|could not possibly turn into robots that are the size they are depicted otherwise]]. Whether this was truly intended to indicate actual size changes, was merely "lazy animation", or was simply a stylistic choice designed to emphasize the awesome stature of robot mode Cybertronians, is a matter of individual opinion.

While later continuities tried to tone this down, it was still present with instances like [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] seen above, and [[Slug (FOC)|Slug]], who goes from a [[Infiltrator (FOC)|Infiltrator]]-sized character to the size of an Insecticon bruiser, and is clearly seen growing bigger after he transforms. Particularly notable is the [[Aligned continuity family|Aligned]] incarnation of [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]], whose horns alone in dragon form are taller than most Transformers, but who "only" stands head-and-shoulders above [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]] in robot mode.

[[Magnificus (G1)|Magnificus]] has a matter-enlarging scope, which he used to make [[Ga'mede]] fit in in the macroverse.

Another similar thing happened with [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] when transforming from his Marmon 97 and back in the ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]]'' film because it is needed to be tall enough due to transforming into a small truck.

[[Kikmee]] and [[Clogstopper]] from ''BotBots'' both enlarge slightly in their altmodes. Kikmee expands a bit to complete her ball mode while Clogstopper's handle extends in length.

===Implicit size changing===
[[File:MakeHoistHuffer.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|Mass displacement my boron compressor.]]
Transformers that act as transport for other Transformers often implicitly change size to do so. However, size changing is rarely explicitly depicted in these cases. Instead, the following method is used: A character such as [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] transforms in-frame from robot to shuttle with no visible expansion of size relative to his surroundings. Cut. [[File:Loading_Ironhide.jpg|right|upright=1.4|thumb|Vanception.]]In the following shot his fellow Decepticons are shown running into frame, suddenly relatively tiny in stature so that they can board the shuttle. Although Astrotrain has not been shown to actually grow, one has to infer that this is more likely than that all his confederates have individually shrunk.

The same change-in-scale-via-implicit-size-changing is used with [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] and other characters used as transport. For example, in the episode "[[Make Tracks]]", [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], who is depicted as one of the larger Autobots in robot mode, is shown riding inside [[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]], a Minibot whose truck mode is usually depicted as being smaller than Optimus Prime's. So either Huffer is extremely large in that scene, or Hoist is suddenly the size of a human. Likewise, an injured [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] has been shown [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3|being loaded into]] [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet's]] rear medical bay, despite both having the ''exact same [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]]''.

(The other explanation is that the animators simply hoped no one would notice the sudden change in scale. Since ''Transformers'' is usually targeted at kids, there's probably some truth to this.)

The ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Cybertron]]'' cartoon had two entirely different [[Scale charts#Cybertron cartoon|scale chart]]s made as a reference for the animators to work from; one for robot mode scale and the other for vehicle mode scale. While the robot mode scale was mostly based on the toys ([[Metroplex (Cybertron)|aside]] [[Quickmix (Cybertron)|from]] [[Menasor (Cybertron)|a few]] [[Primus|exceptions]]), the vehicle modes were based on a more realistic scale. This resulted in the [[Gigantion|Giant Planet]] [[Mini-Con]]s turning into larger vehicles that scaled with their fellow Autobots, unlike the Mini-Cons of ''[[Transformers: Armada (cartoon)|Armada]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|Energon]]'' who remained miniscule in either mode. Smaller characters like [[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]], who transformed into an armored missile truck, would often transform into vehicles larger than taller characters like [[Hot Shot (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Hot Shot]], who transformed into a car. Any character transforming into an aircraft (e.g. [[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]] and [[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]) would grow to an enormous size in order to accurately scale with their fellow team members, who would ''usually'' be rescaled based on [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/Cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]—or the next largest character's vehicle mode; with everyone else nearby following the largest robot's robot mode scale. Unfortunately, the results of these two different scales would often lead to [[:File:Vector Prime-Landmine.jpg|over and undersized characters before and after transformation]].

Most Transformers in the ''[[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|Prime]]'' cartoon employ some visible mass-displacement when transforming into their alternate modes, compressing their robot-mode mass into their vehicle mode forms. This is most visible with [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]], whose vehicle mode is roughly half the size of her robot form, and [[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]], who is noted to be liable to tear the Decepticon's ship apart in beast mode, but is small enough to easily roam the halls in robot mode.

===Pretenders===
Although the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original American cartoon]] was cancelled before the [[Pretender]]s were created, the Japanese-only continuity featured them in their series ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]''. Here the Pretenders did not have outer shells so much as ill-defined holistic transformations which explicitly involved size-changing, allowing the Autobots to convincingly pass themselves off as humans (standing at roughly 6 feet tall). Also, Autobot Pretenders' shells are able to perform size changing in the ''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (manga)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' manga. The Decepticons in the cartoon would also shrink, though, rather than shrinking to the size of a human, their monstrous forms would stand at the height of 7 meters (to put that into perspective, their robot modes stand at 8 meters, so they drop one meter in height, rather than shrinking all the way down to human-height like the Autobots do).

Although never depicted in any of their actual fiction, [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]]'s ''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' encyclopedia stated that Pretender shells use shrinking technology to achieve the ''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers (franchise)#Transformers: Super-God Masterforce|Masterforce]]''-like capacity to pass the wearer off as a real human (or other small lifeform of choice). (Intriguingly, the profile also obliquely implies that Pretender technology would later lead to the development of the faux-organic [[beast mode]]s of the [[Beast Era]].)

==Explanations==
Although size-changing has been evident in Transformers from the very beginning, the original animated series and comic books never address the topic, and it was regarded as simply being the way of things. Fandom debate on the topic has seemingly inspired later fiction to offer varying explanations on how it functions.

===''Beast Wars II'' cartoon===
Surprisingly, one of the first, if not the very first, attempts of providing an official explanation for an instance of size-changing occurred in the Japanese-original ''[[Beast Wars II: Super Lifeform Transformers (cartoon)|Beast Wars II]]'' cartoon.

Upon being upgraded from his smaller, average-sized "Megastorm" form, [[Megastorm|Gigastorm]] had become too large to enter the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]]s' ship, the ''[[Galvaburg II]]''. In order for him to fit, he would first have to be exposed to an '''[[Elemental Particle Control Beam]]''' that would shrink his body down to a more accommodating size every time he wished to enter the ship. He would then remain in his scaled-down size inside the ship for seemingly-indefinite periods of time, until returning to his original size whenever he'd be back outside of the ship.

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave]] offered two explanations for size-changing within its continuity.

The first, to explain enlarging, was '''parts compression'''—the notion that the Transformers in question, such as Astrotrain and [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]], had many dense layers of armor in robot mode, which then slid out, expanding to create a much larger, but less-strongly-armored vehicle mode. Fans have referred to this as the "origami Transformers" explanation, and it appeared in their ''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More Than Meets The Eye]]'' encyclopedia.

The second explanation, to justify shrinking, was '''mass conversion'''. This method put it that Transformers like Soundwave were genetically endowed with the ability to transform not simply their bodies, but their entire molecular structure. This ability, not under their conscious control, only activates when they transform, shifting their atoms according to a predetermined schematic.

===2005 IDW continuity===
[[File:Escalation3-Massdisplacement.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Shrinky-dink.]]
In the ''[[The Transformers: Escalation|Escalation]]'' miniseries sees [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]] employ a '''mass-displacement sequence''', physically discarding a portion of his bodily mass to allow himself to shrink to a human-scaled pistol of appropriate weight and density. What with E equalling mc², the loss of this amount of mass (shunted to an undisclosed location in space and time) results in a volatile energy discharge, requiring bystanders to step away lest they be injured by the forces released—not that Megatron would care.

Due to the energy shortage (and seeming near-total depletion of Transformers' primary fuel source, [[Energon]]) caused by their war, mass displacement hasn't been commonplace for a very long time. Since it requires a huge amount of energy, the technology had practically vanished until the discovery of [[Ore-13]] on [[Earth#2005 IDW continuity|Earth]].

Mass displacement in [[IDW Publishing|IDW's]] [[2005 IDW continuity|original comic book series]] went unmentioned for several years until ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' used it to explain why the [[Constructicon (G1)#2005 IDW continuity|Constructicons]] look much larger when they're forming [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' introduced the '''[[mass-displacement gun]]''', a weapon capable of shrinking ''other'' people, while Megatron would shrink in ''robot mode'' - explaining that the spark modifications to enable mass-displacement, once done, could not be undone - as part of saving the living version of the ''[[Lost Light]]''. {{storylink|slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|The Road Not Taken}}.

The [[Chimeracon]]s, a faction of experimental warriors created by [[Tarantulas (BW)#2005 IDW continuity|Mesothulas]], used body-frames augmented with [[obtenteum]]. This super-fuel gave them the necessary energy required to regularly shift size when converting to and from their [[beast mode]]s. {{storylink|Sins of the Wreckers issue 3}}

In an attempt to destroy a [[Moonbase Two|Functionist-controlled moon]], [[Rung (G1)|Rung]] from an [[Functionist Universe|alternate universe]] was voluntarily mass displaced into the size of a moon, and was killed by this soon afterwards. {{storylink|Dissolution Part 6: This Machine Kills Fascists|This Machine Kills Fascists}}

===2007 ''Transformers'' film===
The creators of the [[Transformers (film)|2007 live-action movie]] explicitly avoided including any Transformers who could change size, wishing to avoid the necessary suspension of disbelief. Therefore, any observed [[scale]] problems are genuine scale problems. (And there are a few, most notably human-sized [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]'s head turning into a tiny cell phone. But then again, his head is basically made of shards with a ''lot'' of space in between.) That said, size-changing technology clearly exists in ''some'' form in the movie continuity, as [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] somehow shrinks the [[AllSpark]] down to a manageable size and mass. The [[Staff of Merlin]] has also been shown to be capable of changing size in ''[[Transformers: The Last Knight (film)|The Last Knight]]'', capable of shrinking and growing to be held by both Cybertronians and humans.

===''Rescue Bots Academy'' cartoon===
When questioned how [[Laserbeak (WFC)|Laserbeak]] was able to turn into a tiny cassette tape, [[Perceptor (Prime)|Perceptor]] explained certain Transformers could use a technique called '''molecular compression''', allowing them to achieve alternate modes much smaller than their robot mode would seemingly permit. {{storylink|More Than Meets the Eye (RBA)|More Than Meets the Eye}}

===Fandom explanations===
[[File:No mass shifting here.jpg|upright=0.85|thumb|Just when you thought you had it all figured out...]]
The issue of shrinking and enlarging was, in the early days of the online ''Transformers'' fandom, a frequently debated subject. The Transformers were clearly displacing their mass, to allow their shrunken forms to be operable—so where was that mass going? The postulated answer to this question was the invention of "[[unspace|subspace]]", the void of extradimensional space between realities. Subspace proved a handy answer to various other questions as well—see the concept's own article for details. IDW's "mass displacement" rationale essentially ''is'' the subspace explanation, without actually using the term.

And hey, if any of that doesn't grab you, a [[Beorht|wizard]] did it.

==Note==
* When you see a character's size is [[:File:Tinybluestreak.jpg|smaller]] [[:File:Huge Ironhide and Small Ratchet.jpg|than]] [[:File:CarnageMiniBlaster.jpg|usual]], well, it's just [[Animation error|a technical issue]].

==References==
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[[Category:Technology]]

Chevy Autobot

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[[Image:Mainframe captives.jpg|right|250px|thumb|[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Blud]] thinks he's on the team.]]
'''The Chevy Autobots''' are seven mass-produced Autobot bodyforms, based around [[General Motors|Chevrolet]] car alternate modes (to the extent of being ''named'' after those cars). Unlike drones, the Chevies have individual names, some of them quite bizarre, and several had the rank of [[Prime (rank)|Prime]]. Code-breaking is one of their noted specialities, with the entire Chevy Autobot regiment being called upon to crack encryptions.

Their most notable conflict [[Transformers: Rise of the Chevy Autobots|was on Earth, 2007 AD]], when they defended the planet from the monstrous [[Mainframe (Movie)|Mainframe]].

* [[Avalanche]]
* [[Aveo]]
* [[Cobalt]]
* [[Equinox]]
* [[HHR]]
* [[Impala]]
* [[Silverado]]

==Commercial appearances==
The tail-end of several Transformers' transformations into Chevy vehicles could be glimpsed throughout commercials for General Motors' "Transform Your Ride" commercial campaign. Chevy Autobots, in all likelihood. {{storylink|Commercial/Transformers (2007)#General Motors|Transformers Chevy tie-in commercial}}

[[Category:Autobot subgroups]]
[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]
[[Category:Movie]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

File:RID 2015 Height Chart.jpeg

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RID Team Bee height chart from Transformers Expo Taipei 2015. [[https://www.tumblr.com/eabevella/123809072706/rid-team-bee-height-chart-from-transformers-expo|Source]]

Official sizes and heights

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[[Scale]] in Transformers is inconsistent to put it mildly. There are times however outside and inside of lore when official heights and sizes of characters are given. Here is a list of said sizes.

==Generation 1 continuity family==

====Marvel comics====
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Bumblebee]]: 15'
*[[Shockwave (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Shockwave]] (bio, gun mode length): >35'
*[[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] (Pretender shell): 40'
*[[Dreadwind (G1)|Dreadwind]]: 42'
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]
**Bio: >60'
**UK booklet: 100'
*[[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]]: 80'
*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]]: 86' 7 3/8" (8 stories)
*[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] (UK booklet): 698'
*[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] (carrier mode length): 1,200'

====''The Transformers'' cartoon scale charts====
{{collist|3|*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]]: 2 m
*[[Frenzy (G1)|Frenzy]]: 2 m
*[[Ravage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ravage]] (jumping): 2 m
*[[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]] (wingspan): 2 m
*[[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] (wingspan): 2 m
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]: 2.5 m
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]]: 2.5 m
*[[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] 2.5 m
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]]: <3 m
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cliffjumper]]: <3 m
*[[Windcharger (G1)|Windcharger]]: 3 m
*[[Gears (G1)|Gears]]: 3 m
*[[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]]: 3.5 m
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]]: 3.5 m
*[[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]]: 4 m
*[[Mirage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Mirage]]: 4 m
*[[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]]: 4 m
*[[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]]: 4 m
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]]: 4 m
*[[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]]: 4 m
*[[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]]: 4 m
*[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]]: 4 m
*[[Sideswipe (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sideswipe]]: 4 m
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sunstreaker]]: 4 m
*[[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]]: 5 m
*[[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]]: 5 m
*[[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]]: 5 m
*[[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]]: 5 m
*[[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]]: 5 m
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]]: 5 m
*[[Perceptor (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Perceptor]]: 5 m
*[[Skywarp (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Skywarp]]: 5 m
*[[Thundercracker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Thundercracker]]: 5 m
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]: 5 m
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]]: 5.5 m
*[[Shockwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Shockwave]]: 5.5 m
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]]: 5.5 m
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]]: 5.5 m
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]]: 5.5 m
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]: 5.5 m
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]: 5.5 m
*[[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]]: 5.75 m
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]: 6 m
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]: 6 m
*[[Swoop (G1)|Swoop]]: 6 m (head), ~7m (helmet)
*[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]]: 7 m
*Snarl (beast mode): 5.5 m
*[[Slag (G1)|Slag]]: 7 m
*Slag (beast mode): 4.5 m
*[[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]: 7 m
*Sludge (beast mode): 5.5 m
*[[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]]: 7 m
*Grimlock (beast mode): 8 m
*[[Jetfire_(G1)|Skyfire]]: 10 m
*[[Devastator (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Devastator]]:
**Omega Supreme Chart: 10.5 m
**Constructicon Chart: 12 m
**Decepticon Chart: 15.5 m
*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]: 12 m}}

====Hobby Japan====
*[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]: 800 m
*[[Unicron/Generation 1|Unicron]]: Jupiter-sized (so approximately 140,000 km in diameter)

====''Super Robots Guide''====
*[[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]]: 3 km

====''Transformers: The Headmasters'' scale charts====
{{collist|3|*[[Shouki]]: 5 m
*[[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]]: 5.5 m
*[[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]: 5.5 m
*[[Scorponok (G1)|Zarak]]: ~5.5 m
*[[Highbrow (G1)|Highbrow]]: 5.5 m
*[[Springer (G1)|Springer]]: 6 m
*[[Weirdwolf (G1)|Weirdwolf]]: 6 m
*[[Skullcruncher (G1)|Skullcruncher]]: 6 m
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]]: 6 m
*[[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]]: 6 m
*[[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]]: 6 m
*[[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Cerebros]]: 6 m
*[[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]]: 6 m
*[[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]]: 6 m
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]: ~7 m
*[[Grimlock (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Grimlock]]: 7 m
*[[Cyclonus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Cyclonus]]: 7 m
*[[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]]: 7 m
*[[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]: ~16 m
*[[Raiden]]: ~16 m
*[[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]]: 16 m}}

====''Masterforce'' scale notes====
*[[Ginrai (robot)|Ginrai]]: 10 m
*Super Ginrai: 15 m

====Kodansha manga====
*[[King Poseidon]]: 20 m<ref name=TVM7-88>[[TV Magazine]], July 1988</ref>
*[[Headmaster Junior]]s ([[Goshooter]] shown): 7 m<ref name=TVM7-88/>
*[[Pretender#Super-God Masterforce cartoon|Pretenders]] ([[Metalhawk (G1)|Metalhawk]] shown): 8 m<ref name=TVM7-88>
*[[Godmasters]] ([[Ginrai]] shown): 10 m<ref name=TVM7-88>
*[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]: 800 m<ref>[[Comic Bom Bom]] February 1987</ref>
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#The Battlestars manga and story pages|Super Megatron]]: 35 m<ref name=TVM6-91>TV Magazine, [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: The Battlestars (story page)#Part 6|June 1991]]</ref>
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#The Battlestars manga and story pages|Star Convoy]]: 45 m<ref name=TVM6-91/>
*[[Sixbuilder]]: 40 m<ref>TV Magazine, February 1992</ref>
*[[Sixwing]]: 42 m<ref>TV Magazine, March 1992</ref>
*[[Guard City]]: 60 m<ref>TV Magazine, April 1992</ref>
*[[Sixliner]]: 45 m<ref>TV Magazine, May 1992</ref>
*[[Battle Gaia]]: 65 m<ref>TV Magazine, July 1992</ref>
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity#G-2 story pages and pack-in manga|Battle Convoy]]: 13 m<ref>TV Magazine, [[Transformers: G-2 (story page)#Part 6|January 1996]]</ref>

====''Masterpiece'' bios and booklets====
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (MP-01): 36 m
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (ghost version): >10 m

====''Transformers × Evangelion''====
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime Mode Eva]]: 75 m

====''Beast Wars'' cartoon bible====
*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]]: 5'

====''Beast Wars'' cartoon (JP)====
{{collist|3|*[[Rattrap (BW)|Rattrap]]: 1.8 m<ref name=BWMSE>''[[Beast Wars Metals Super Encyclopedia]]''</ref>
*Rattrap (Transmetal): 1.8 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Airazor (BW)|Airazor]]: 1.8 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Quickstrike (BW)|Quickstrike]]: 2 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]]: 2.1 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]]: 2.3 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*Cheetor (Transmetal): 2.3 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Tigatron]]: 2.3 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Terrorsaur (BW)|Terrorsaur]]: 2.3 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]]: 2.4 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Tarantulas (BW)|Tarantulas]]: 2.4 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*Tarantulas (Transmetal): 2.5 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]]: 2.5 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]: 2.5 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Rhinox (BW)|Rhinox]]: 2.6 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Inferno (BW)|Inferno]]: 2.6 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Silverbolt (Fuzor)|Silverbolt]]: 2.6 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*Blackarachnia (Transmetal 2): 2.6 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*Cheetor (Transmetal 2): 2.7 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Optimus Primal (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Optimus Primal]]: 2.8 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Megatron (BW)/Beast Wars cartoon continuity|Megatron]]: 2.8 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Dinobot (BW)|Dinobot]] : 2.9 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*Optimus Primal (Transmetal): 3 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Dinobot II]]: 3.1 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*Megatron (Transmetal): 3.2 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Depth Charge (BW)|Depthcharge]]: 3.4 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Rampage (BW)|Rampage]]: 3.4 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*[[Tigerhawk]]: 7 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*Megatron (Transmetal 2): 11.5 m<ref name=BWMSE/>
*Optimal Optimus: 12 m<ref name=BWMSE/>}}

====''Beast Wars II'' cartoon====
{{collist|3|*[[Drill Nuts|Drillnuts]]: 2.0 m<ref name=BWIISE>''[[Beast Wars II Super Encyclopedia]]''</ref>
*[[Star Upper (BW)|Star Upper]]: 2.0 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Scissor Boy|Scissorboy]]: 2.1 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Lio Junior]]: 2.2 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Tasmania Kid]]: 2.3 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Coelagon]]: 2.4 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[DJ (BW)|DJ]]: 2.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Terrormander|Terrormandar]]: 2.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Tonbot]]: 2.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Starscream (BW)|Starscream]]: 2.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Dirge (BW)|Dirge]]: 2.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Thrust (BW)|Thrust]]: 2.6 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Autolauncher]]: 2.6 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Scuba]]: 2.7 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Autocrusher]]: 2.7 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Ikard]]: 2.7 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Diver (BW)|Diver]]: 2.7 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Bigmos|Big Mos]]: 2.7 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Autojetter]]: 2.7 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Scylla]]: 2.7 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Sea Phantom]]: 2.8 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Autostinger]]: 2.8 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*Thrustor: 2.8 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Mantis]]: 2.8 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*Dirgegun: 2.8 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Skywarp (BW)|Skywarp]]: 2.8 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*Hellscream: 2.8 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Apache]]: 2.9 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Lio Convoy]]: 3.0 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Motorarm (BW)|Motorarm]]: 3.0 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Powerhug (BW)|Powerhug]]: 3.2 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[BB (BW)|Max-B]]: 3.2 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Bighorn]]: 3.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Santon]]: 3.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Gimlet]]: 3.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Halfshell]]: 4.0 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Megastorm]]: 4.0 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*BB: 4.0 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Galvatron (BW)|Galvatron]]: 5.0 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Magnaboss (BWII)|Magnaboss]]: 5.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Tripledacus]]: 5.5 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[God Neptune]]: 5.7 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Tako Tank]]/Sumiikar: 5.8 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*Gigastorm: 15 m<ref name=BWIISE/>
*[[Majin Zarak]]: 200 m<ref name=BWIISE/>}}

====''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoon====
{{collist|3|*[[Stampy (BW)|Stampy]]: 2.6 m<ref name=BWNSE>''[[Beast Wars Neo Super Encyclopedia]]''</ref>
*[[Heinrad (BW)|Heinrad]]: 2.6 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Bump]]: 2.7 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Hydra (BW)|Hydra]]: 2.7 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Colada]]: 2.75 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Break]]: 2.8 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Crazybolt (BW)|Crazybolt]]: 2.8 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Randy (BW)|Randy]]: 2.8 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Saberback]]: 2.9 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Longrack (BW)|Longrack]]: 2.9 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Sling (BW)|Sling]]: 2.9 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Hardhead (BW)|Hardhead]]: 2.9 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Sharp Edge|Sharpedge]]: 3.0 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Rockbuster]]: 3.0 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Dead End (BW)|Deadend]]: 3.0 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Bazooka (BW)|Bazooka]]: 3.0 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Killer Punch|Killerpunch]]: 3.1 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Archadis]]: 3.1 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Mach Kick]]: 3.1 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Survive]]: 3.1 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Guiledart]]: .2 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Big Convoy]]: 3.2 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Elphaorpha]]: 3.8 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Drancron]]: 3.9 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Latolata]]: 4.0 m<ref name=BWNSE/>
*[[Magmatron]]: 4.5 m<ref name=BWNSE/>}}

====Dreamwave Generation One continuity====
*[[Nemesis (G1)|The Nemesis]]
**Length: 2.5 miles
**Wingspan: 1.75 miles
**Height: 1.25 miles

====2005 IDW continuity====
{{collist|2|
* [[Sovereign]]: 5' 10" <ref name="HH1"/>
* [[Bob (IDW)|Bob]]: 8' <ref name="HH1"/>
* [[Aileron]]: 22' <ref name="HH1">[[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook issue 1|Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook #1]]</ref>
* [[Centurion (IDW)|Centurion]]: 26' <ref name="HH1"/>
* [[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]]: 26' <ref name="HH3"/>
* [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]: 28' <ref name="HH3"/>
* [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]]: 30' <ref name="HH1"/>
* [[Kup (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Kup]]: 30' <ref name="HH2"/>
* [[Skywarp (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Skywarp]]: 30' <ref name="HH3">[[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook issue 3|Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook #3]]</ref>
* [[Thundercracker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Thundercracker]]: 30' <ref name="HH3"/>
* [[Soundwave (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Soundwave]]: 32' <ref name="HH3"/>
* [[Jazz (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Jazz]]: 32' <ref name="HH2"/>
* [[Arcee (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Arcee]]: 33' <ref name="HH1"/>
* [[Grimlock (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Grimlock]]: 38' <ref name="HH2">[[Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook issue 2|Hasbro Heroes Sourcebook #2]]</ref>
* [[Megatron (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Megatron]]: 38' <ref name="HH2"/>
* [[Optimus Prime (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Optimus Prime]]: 38' <ref name="HH2"/>
* [[Victorion]]: approximately 150' <ref name="HH3"/>
* [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]: 400' {{Fact|citation needed}}
* [[Metrotitan (G1)|Metrotitan]]: approx. 2 miles <ref> "[[All Hail Optimus Part 6: No Fair Fights|No Fair Fights]]" </ref>
}}

====''Calm Sleep Stories''====
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]]: 20'<ref>[[History of the Transformers]]</ref>

==''Transformers: Robots in Disguise'' (2001 franchise)==

====''Robots In Disguise'' cartoon====
{{collist|3|*[[Gas Skunk]]: 4 m<ref name=CR1>''Car Robots'' [[:File:Robots-in-Disguise Car-Robots scale-charts.jpg|size chart 1]]</ref>
*[[Dark Scream]]: 4 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Slapper (RID)|Slapper]]: 4 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Side Burn (RID)|Sideburn]]: 4 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Prowl (RID)|Prowl]]: 4 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[X-Brawn]]: 4.3 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]]: 4.8 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]]: 5 m<ref name=CR2>''Car Robots'' [[:File:Robots-in-Disguise Car-Robots tall scale-chart.jpg|scale chart 2]]</ref>
*[[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]]: 5 m<ref name=CR1/>
*Optimus Prime (Super Mode): 6.5 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]]: 7 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Midnight Express (RID)|Midnight Express]]: 9.2 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Rapid Run (RID)|Rapid Run]]: 9.7 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Railspike (RID)|Railspike]]: 10 m<ref name=CR1/>
*[[Landfill (RID)|Landfill]]: 14 m<ref name=CR2/>
*[[Ruination (RID)|Ruination]]: 14.5 m<ref name=CR2/>
*[[Rail Racer (RID)|Rail Racer]]: 15 m<ref name=CR2/>
*[[Fortress Maximus (RID)|Brave Maximus]]: 350 m<ref>Brave Maximus toy bio</ref>}}

==Unicron Trilogy==
====''Transformers'' video game====
{{collist|3|*[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]]:
**Vehicle: 5' 11"<ref name=2004PS2>[[Transformers (Armada PS2)|Transformers]]'' instruction manual</ref>
**Robot: 16' 5"<ref name=2004PS2/>
*[[Cyclonus (Armada)|Cyclonus]]:
**Vehicle: 17' 1"<ref name=2004PS2/>
**Robot: 19' 7" <ref name=2004PS2/>
*[[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]:
**Vehicle: 15' 1"<ref name=2004PS2/>
**Robot 19' 7"<ref name=2004PS2/>
*[[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]]:
**Vehicle: 7' 3"<ref name=2004PS2/>
**Robot: 19' 8"<ref name=2004PS2/>
*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]:
**Vehicle: 8' 3"<ref name=2004PS2/>
**Robot: 22' 11"<ref name=2004PS2/>
*[[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron]]:
**Vehicle: 8' 3"<ref name=2004PS2/>
**Robot: 22' 11"<ref name=2004PS2/>}}

====''Superlink Pla-Kit 1/45'' models====
*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Grand Convoy]]: 13' 1½"
*[[Grand Scourge]]: 13' 1½"
*Grand Convoy (Super Mode): 15' 11¼"
*Grand Scourge (Super Mode): 15' 11¼"

====''Galaxy Force'' cartoon====
{{collist|4|*[[Bud Hansen|Bud]]: 144 cm<ref name=GF1>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 1 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Lori Jiménez|Lori]]: 159 cm<ref name=GF1/>
*[[Coby Hansen|Coby]]: 165 cm<ref name=GF1/>
*[[Reverb (Cybertron)|Reverb]]: 1.8 m<ref name=GF3>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 3 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Six-Speed (Cybertron)|Six-Speed]]: 1.8 m<ref name=GF3/>
*[[Jolt (Cybertron)|Jolt]]: 2.0 m<ref name=GF3/>
*[[Lugnutz]]: 2.8 m<ref name=GF11>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 11 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Ransack (Cybertron)|Ransack]]: 2.8 m<ref name=GF4>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 4 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Undermine (Cybertron)|Undermine]]: 2.8 m<ref name=GF6>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 6 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Overhaul (Cybertron)|Overhaul]]: 3.0 m<ref name=GF1/>
*[[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]]s: 3.0 m<ref name=GF9>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 9 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Cobybot]]: 3.0 m<ref name=GF11/>
*[[Backstop (Cybertron)|Backstop]]: 3.2 m<ref name=GF5>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 5 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Brakedown (Cybertron)|Brakedown]]: 3.2 m<ref name=GF3/>
*[[Scattorshot (Cybertron)|Scattorshot]]: 3.2 m<ref name=GF1/>
*[[Clocker (Cybertron)|Clocker]]: 3.4 m<ref name=GF3/>
*[[Sideways (Armada)|Sideways]]: 3.7 m<ref name=GF6/>
*[[Snarl (Cybertron)|Snarl]]: 3.7 m<ref name=GF5/>
*[[Crosswise (Cybertron)|Crosswise]]: 3.8 m<ref name=GF6/>
*[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]]: 3.8 m<ref name=GF2>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 2 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Landmine (Energon)|Landmine]]: 3.8 m<ref name=GF3/>
*[[Red Alert (Armada)|Red Alert]]: 3.8 m<ref name=GF2/>
*Hot Shot (Cybertron Defense): 3.8 m<ref name=GF8>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 8 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Brimstone (Cybertron)|Brimstone]]: 3.9 m<ref name=GF6/>
*[[Thunderblast (Decepticon)|Thunderblast]]: 3.9 m<ref name=GF10>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 10 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Thundercracker (Armada)|Thundercracker]]: 3.9 m<ref name=GF2/>
*[[Override (Cybertron)|Override]]: 4.0 m<ref name=GF2/>
*[[Dirt Boss (Cybertron)|Dirt Boss]]: 4.0 m<ref name=GF4/>
*[[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]]: 4.1 m<ref name=GF13>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 13 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]]: 4.2 m<ref name=GF7>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 7 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Starscream (Armada)|Starscream]]: 4.2 m<ref name=GF2/>
*Scattorshot (Cybertron Defense): 4.3 m<ref name=GF8/>
*Red Alert (Cybertron Defense): 4.5 m<ref name=GF8/>
*[[Wing Saber (Energon)|Wing Saber]]: 4.5 m<ref name=GF10/>
*Leobreaker: 4.5 m<ref name=GF5/>
*[[Nemesis Breaker]]: 4.5 m<ref name=GF10/>
*[[Jetfire (Armada)|Jetfire]]: 4.6 m<ref name=GF1/>
*[[Crumplezone (Cybertron)|Crumplezone]]: 4.8 m<ref name=GF4/>
*[[Optimus Prime (Armada)|Optimus Prime]]: 5 m<ref name=GF1/>
*[[Vector Prime]]: 5.2 m<ref name=GF3/>
*[[Mudflap (Cybertron)|Mudflap]]: 5.4 m<ref name=GF6/>
*Dark Crumplezone: 5.5 m<ref name=GF13/>
*[[Scourge (Cybertron)|Scourge]]: 5.5 m<ref name=GF4/>
*Optimus Prime (Super Mode), Savage Claw Mode & Sonic Wing Mode: 6m<ref name=GF1/><ref name=GF5/><ref name=GF11/>
*[[Megatron (Armada)|Megatron/Galvatron]]: 6 m<ref name=GF2/><ref name=GF13/>
*[[Quickmix (Cybertron)|Quickmix]]: 10.4 m<ref name=GF12>''[[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|Galaxy Force]]'' Vol. 12 DVD booklet</ref>
*[[Menasor (Cybertron)|Menasor]]: 11.3 m<ref name=GF12/>
*[[Metroplex (Cybertron)|Metroplex]]: 20.0 m<ref name=GF12/>
*Starscream (Giant): Unmeasurable<ref name=GF8/>
*[[Primus]]: Unmesurable<ref name=GF9/>}}

==Live-action film series==
====''Transformers'' preliminary scale chart====
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]: 9'<ref name=Movie1P>''Transformers'' [[:File:Movie scale chart.jpg|preliminary Autobot scale chart]]</ref>
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]]: 14'<ref name=Movie1P/>
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]: 18'<ref name=Movie1P/>
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]: 24'<ref name=Movie1P/>
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]: 32'<ref name=Movie1P/>

====''Transformers'' scale chart====
*[[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]: 3'<ref name=Movie1>''Transformers'' [[:File:SizeComparison-1-1-.jpg|scale chart]]</ref>
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]]: 15'<ref name=Movie1/>
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]: 16'<ref name=Movie1/>
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]: 16'<ref name=Movie1/>
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]: 20'<ref name=Movie1/>
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]: 22'<ref name=Movie1/>
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]: 28'<ref name=Movie1/>
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]: 31'<ref name=Movie1/>
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]: 33'<ref name=Movie1/>
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]: 35'<ref name=Movie1/>

====''The Boston Globe'' trading cards:====
*[[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]: 4' 6"
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]]: 15' 7"
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]: 16' 2"
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]: 16' 3"
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]: 20' 1"
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]: 22'
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]: 28'
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]: 31'
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]: 33' 5"
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]: 35'

====''Transformers The Game''====
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]]: 16'

====''Revenge of the Fallen'' concept art====
*[[Depthcharge (ROTF)|Depthcharge]]: 122' (head), 140' (shoulders)

====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film scale charts====
{{collist|3|*[[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]: 3'<ref name=ROTFDVDD>''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[:File:Rotf-scale-decepticons-original-1-.jpg|DVD Decepticon scale chart]]</ref>
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee 1]]: 7'<ref name=ROTFDVDA>''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[:File:Rotf-scale-autobots2-1-.jpg|DVD Autobot scale chart]]</ref>
*[[Chromia (ROTF)|Arcee 2]]: 7'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Elita-One (Movie)|Arcee 3]]: 7'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]: 8'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]]: 8'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*Arcee (combined): 15'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]: 15'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]: 16'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]: 16'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>
*[[Jolt (ROTF)|Jolt]]<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]: 16'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]: 20'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]: 22'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]]: 22'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>
*[[Mixmaster (ROTF)|Cement Mixer]]: 22'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]: 28'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Springer (ROTF)|Osprey]]: 30'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]: 31'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]: 33'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]: 35'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>
*[[Rampage (ROTF)|Rampage]]: 35'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>
*Optimus Prime (Power Up): 40'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]]: 50'<ref name=ROTFDVDA/>
*[[Long Haul (ROTF)|Long Haul]]: 65'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>
*[[Scavenger (ROTF)|Scavenger]]: 75'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>
*[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]: 100'<ref name=ROTFDVDD/>}}

====''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe''====
{{collist|3|
*[[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]]: 4' 6"
*[[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]]:
**Height: 7' 2"
**Length: 15'
*[[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]]: 8' 8" (length)
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]]: 11' 4"
*[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]: 11' 4"
*[[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]]: 15' 7"
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]: 16' 2"
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]: 16' 3"
*[[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]]: 20' 1"
*[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]: 25'
*[[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]: 25' 2"
*[[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]]: 25' 2"
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]: 28'
*[[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]]: 31'
*[[Blackout (Movie)|Blackout]]: 33' 5"
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]: 35'
*[[The Fallen]]: 42'
*[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]: 45' (on all fours)
}}

====''Revenge of the Fallen'' sticker sheets====
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]: 35'

====Michael Bay's ''Revenge of the Fallen'' blog:====
*[[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]: ~108' 3 7/32" ("10 stories")

====''Transformers: The Last Knight'' scale chart====
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]: 29'
*[[Cogman]]: 4' 5"
*[[Daytrader]]: 16'

====''Transformers: The Last Knight'' Twitter page====
*[[Sqweeks]]: 3' 6"
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]: 16'
*[[Drift (AOE)|Drift]]: 16'
*[[Hot Rod (DOTM)|Hot Rod]]: 16' 1"
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]: 18'
*[[Crosshairs (AOE)|Crosshairs]]: 18'
*[[Hound (Movie)|Hound]]: 24'
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]: 30'

====''The Last Knight'' TRF prisoner dossier bios====
*[[Mohawk]]: 14'
*[[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]: 16'
*[[Dreadbot]]: 18'
*[[Berserker]]: 18'
*[[Onslaught (ROTF)|Onslaught]]: 27'
*[[Nitro Zeus]]: 28'
*[[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]: 30'

====''Transformers: Rise of the Beasts'' AR Statue Experience stats====
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]: 19' 10"
*[[Optimus Primal (ROTB)|Optimus Primal]]: 13' 2" (in beast mode, on all fours)
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]]: 15'

====''Transformers: Rise of the Beasts'' film====
*[[Freezer]]: 5'<ref name=ROTBJP>''Rise of the Beats'' [[:File:ROTB_Scale_Chart_Takara.jpeg|Japanese scale chart]]</ref>
*[[Novakane]]: 5'<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]]: 8' 6"<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Airazor (ROTB)|Airazor]] 10' (in beast mode)<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Cheetor (ROTB)|Cheetor]] 12' (in beast mode)<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Nightbird (ROTB)|Nightbird]] 12'<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] 12' 6"<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Mirage (Movie)|Mirage]] 12' 6"<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Rhinox (ROTB)|Rhinox]] 13' (in beast mode)<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Wheeljack (ROTB)|Wheeljack]] 14'<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Battletrap (ROTB)|Battletrap]] 17'<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Scourge (ROTB)|Scourge]] 19'<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] 18'<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Optimus Primal (ROTB)|Optimus Primal]] 19' (in beast mode, standing)<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Transit (ROTB)|Transit]] 20'<ref name=ROTBJP/>
*[[Stratosphere]] 60'<ref name=ROTBJP/>

==Aligned continuity family==
====''Transformers: Fall of Cybertron''====
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]]: 20'
*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]]: ~30'
*[[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]]: ~30'
*[[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]]: 40'
*[[Bruticus (WFC)|Bruticus]]: 70'
*[[Metroplex (FOC)|Metroplex]]: 600'

====''Transformers: Retribution'' game====
*[[Omega Supreme (WFC)|Omega Supreme]]: 1/2 mile

====''Transformers: Prime'' cartoon====
*[[Predaking (Prime)|Predaking]] (wingspan): ~220 m ("two football fields")
*[[Nemesis Prime (Prime)|Nemesis Prime]]: 30'

==''Transformers One''==
===''Transformers One'' film===
*[[Optimus Prime (One)|Orion Pax]]: 32.534'<ref name=TFOne>''Transformers One'' AR Experience Meet The Bots profiles</ref>
*[[Megatron (One)|D-16]]: 32.462'<ref name=TFOne/>
*[[Elita-1 (One)|Elita-1]]: 28.174'<ref name=TFOne/>
*[[Bumblebee (One)|B-127]]: 26.429'<ref name=TFOne/>

===''Transformers One'' Blokees ''Classic Class'' bios===
*[[Optimus Prime (One)|Optimus Prime]]: 10.59 m
*[[Megatron (One)|Megatron]]: 11.06 m
*[[Sentinel Prime (One)|Sentinel Prime]]: 11.04 m

==References==
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Sideswipe (Movie)/toys

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Collect '''Sideswipe''', the silver sports car!

==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====Legends Class toys====
[[File:ROTF-toy SideswipeLegends.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Hey! I have real feet now!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Legends Class, [[2009]])}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''EZ-06'''

: [[Legends Class (2005)|Legends Class]] Sideswipe transforms into a tiny Corvette Stingray concept car. As a Legends toy, he features a simplified transformation sequence that results in swords that consist entirely of door [[kibble]] and barely-noticeable reliefs of his wheel-feet.

:Prototype photos of the toy shows that his faux wheel-feet are painted. This toy was [[redeco]]ed into ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/LegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy SideswipeFoF.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] as his partner... Screwed, or not screwed?]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''The Fury of Fearswoop''' (Multi-pack, 2009)}}</ul>

:A "battle damaged" deco version of Legends Sideswipe was available in the [[Walmart]]-exclusive "The [[Fury of Fearswoop]]" 3-pack together with a similarly "battle damaged" version of Legends [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and Deluxe class [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]]. That the set uses a pair of Legends-class cars and a Deluxe-class jet means the toys are in a roughly-correct scale to each other... which is borked by the story, in which Fearswoop is supposedly much huger than normal thanks to some unnamed mystic artifact.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/WMLegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on "Fury of Fearswoop" Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy Legends BluesteelSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Was the painter sleeping at the controls?!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Bluesteel Sideswipe''' (Legends Class, [[2010]])}}</ul>

:"Bluesteel" Sideswipe is a metallic blue redeco of Legends Sideswipe, also featuring some minor detail changes, including finally painting his fake wheel-feet to make them stand out.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/LegBluesteelSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Bluesteel Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:ROTFSideswipe 2009 Deluxe.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|His heroes are [[Tigatron]] and {{w|Edward Scissorhands}}.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''RA-04'''
{{toydesigner|[[Shogo Hasui]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

:Sideswipe transforms into a silver Corvette Stingray concept car. In this mode, he sits so low that it's difficult to roll him without scraping his undercarriage, unless you perform some careful shaping after transforming him. Sideswipe's [[Mech Alive]] gimmick is in his knees—bending his legs causes the blue armor plates on his knees to extend. He does have wheels in his feet like his character model, but the toy's feet have been designed in such a way that it can stand alone. Rounding out his robot mode awesomeness, his hips have an "invisible joint" and moving pistons, while his "blades" are geared to spin out in unison. He is ''totally awesome''.

:Sideswipe's instructions aren't clear as to how his torso is supposed to connect with his chest in robot mode. The torso piece has a square peg on top of it and there is a corresponding square hole between the two screws holding the front of his chest together. Getting his torso section in front of his arm struts can be a somewhat snug fit.

:This mold was [[retool]]ed into ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

:During part of 2010, [https://web.archive.org/web/20100705115820/http://www.hasbro.com:80/transformers/en_US/discover/transformers-toy-giveaway.cfm Hasbro did a promotion] wherein US fans could receive three free Deluxes in exchange for receipts showing the purchase of $25 or more of select Transformers product. As noted in [https://web.archive.org/web/20200327174024/https://www.allspark.com/forums/topic/69645-buy-25-worth-of-tfsget-three-deluxes-for-free/ this thread over at Allspark.com], and later confirmed by [http://web.archive.org/web/20110221171904/http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HT83971G3 this listing here], Sideswipe was one of a pool of eight figures (all from the same wave) from which the free Deluxes were drawn, with several people having noted receiving him.

:Sadly, his door-wing kibble-pack may come out of the package with the swivel joints near the base looking a little bit deformed and/or broken. This flaw causes them to have some difficulty staying on. This is not ''totally awesome''.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Sideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF Deluxe StrikeMissionSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"Well basically, I just copied the Sideswipe we have now. And this racing stripe here I feel is pretty sharp."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Strike Mission Sideswipe''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)}}</ul>

:This redeco of Sideswipe features red translucent windows, a large black racing stripe running down the center of the car and fading black stripes on the doors. Like many Autobots in the NEST Global Alliance ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline refresh, he features a version of the NEST logo [[tampograph]]ed on him.

:This deco is also the basis for the [[Gravity Bot]]s [[#GravityNitro|"Nitro" Sideswipe toy]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/Sideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Strike Mission Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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====''Human Alliance''====
[[File:ROTF HumanAlliance Sideswipe Epps.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Training with Sergeant Epps really beefed him up!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe / Tech. Sergeant Epps''' (Human Alliance, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''RA-22'''
:*''Accessories:'' Missile
{{toydesigner|[[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}

:Like all [[Human Alliance]] figures, Sideswipe is designed to allow his accompanying human figure, in this case [[Robert Epps]], to ride inside.

:While in many ways simply a larger version of the Deluxe toy, it has several changes. The wheeled feet may now fold out into a stand system, allowing Sideswipe to stand without having to balance on the wheels, or be left as is to retain a more rounded look, and his blades are now rubberized to prevent injury and damage, as the blades lay flat underneath in vehicle mode. The sword-hands can also be slotted into a gear system connected to the front wheels, which causes them to spin as the wheels are turned. The passenger's seat may either be used as a seat for Epps, or turned into a missile launcher slung over Sideswipe's left shoulder.

:Like the Deluxe figure, the HA Sideswipe is something of a [[shellformer]] and suffers from an excessive amount of [[kibble]], as nearly the entire top of the vehicle mode is folded up into a backpack, with only the rear bumper being incorporated as Sideswipe's chest. Partly as the reason, it is also quite hard for him to be able to stand up, as his thigh joints are tight and the rubber tubing on his thighs can get quite tense during posing, constantly wanting to reset his torso to tilt back up and as well as wanting his legs to be straight, thus overbalancing him and making him fall on his backpack.

:A great deal goes unmentioned in the instructions: in addition to the seats behind Sideswipe's shoulders, there are pegs on both forearms that a Human Alliance human figure can stand on or have plugged into their back, but neither are accomplished very well; the pegs also interfere with free rolling in vehicle mode, scraping on the ground. There is a fold-out handle under the swiveling rear window section, which seems to serve no purpose; it's possible to fold this section over Sideswipe's head (and, by extension, any human figure sitting behind his right shoulder), but the handle is only reached if the human figure has its left arm raised straight up and the seat is in just the right position. There are also small tabs that fold out of Sideswipe's waist to make him more movie-accurate. The small turret on his right shoulder can be slid upwards slightly, allowing it to clear the shoulder much better. Sideswipe also has an extra hinge near either thigh swivel that is completely hindered by the rubber tubing on his legs. Finally, Sideswipe has a battle mask; or rather, his normal head '''is''' his battle mask. A thin sliver in the middle of his face flips back to reveal his "real" face. It looks... odd. It's probably best to leave the thing down and never speak of this feature.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/HASideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Human Alliance Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

====''Fast Action Battlers''====
[[File:Sideswipe ROTF FAB toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Has anyone seen my proportions?]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Battle Blade Sideswipe''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Alex Androski]] (deco artist)}}

: This roughly Deluxe-sized version of Sideswipe is a kid-friendly version with a simpler transformation, transforming from a Corvette Stingray car to a simplified version of his robot mode presented in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie. His main [[gimmick]] is his spring-loaded arm-blades which automatically swing down when pulled upward.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/FABSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Battle Blade Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy FAB NightBladesSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Haven't found my proportions yet, but look at this cool deco I found!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Night Blades Sideswipe''' (Fast Action Battler, 2010)}}</ul>

: This [[redeco]] of Battle Blade Sideswipe colors his car mode dark gray and light green. His robot mode bits remain silver.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/FABSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Night Blades Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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====''Battle Chargers''====
[[File:ROTFSideswipe BattleChargers 2009.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|He secretly envies the original [[Battlecharger]]s for having better feet.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Battle Charger, 2009)}}</ul>

:Part of the [[Robot Powered Machines]] subline, Battle Charger Sideswipe is a cutesified Corvette Stingray with a [[pull-back motor]]. When pulled back and let go, his roof flips open and his robot mode pops out.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/BattleChargerSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Battle Charger Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTFHyperSpeedSideswipeBattlecharger.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Hyper Speed Sideswipe''' (Battle Charger, 2009)}}</ul>

:Hyper Speed Sideswipe is a redeco of Battle Charger Sideswipe with black details here and there and his name stenciled on his windshield.
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====''Gravity Bots''====
[[File:ROTF-toy SideswipeGravity.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Before he joined the army, Sideswipe was picked on a lot for his "mass problem".]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''GB-04'''

: Part of the second wave of [[Gravity Bot]]s, Sideswipe uses gravity-activated [[autotransformation]] to turn into a [[super deformed]] Corvette Stingray when laid on his back. When the car is stood back up, it returns to its boxy robot mode.

: The toy features no [[articulation]] whatsoever, but that doesn't matter because he's awesome.

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[[File:ROTF-toy GravityBots NitroSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|They were all "he trans''fats'' and ''rolls'' out!" this, "''pie''swipe!" that...]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Nitro Sideswipe''' (Gravity Bot, 2010)}}</ul>

: A [[redeco]] of regular Gravity Bot Sideswipe, Nitro Sideswipe features maroon windows and black stripes and wheels, very similar to the [[size class|Deluxe Class]] [[#StrikeMission|"Strike Mission" Sideswipe toy]]. He of course retains the same awesome play feature.
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====''Robot Replicas''====
[[File:ROTF-toy RobotReplicas Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|I haven't sliced anyone up in awhile, I gots the Blue Blades!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Robot Replicas, 2009)}}</ul>

:Robot Replicas Sideswipe is a non- transforming, but highly detailed and articulated interpretation of his robot mode from the movie. He features highly posable legs, arms, feet, head, waist, neck and shoulders, making him both an awesome kid's toy and display piece.
:Funnily enough, despite the Robot Replica promise of total movie-accuracy, his arm-blades are [[For safety reasons|considerably shortened]] and are a weird metallic blue colour, rather than the silver/gray you might expect.

:Sadly, his "Wheel feet" do not roll, making Sideswipe somewhat immobilized.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RRSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Robot Replicas Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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====''Power Bots''====
[[File:ROTF-toy PowerBots Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Crikey!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Power Bots, 2009)}}</ul>

: ''[[Power Bots]]'' Sideswipe is a bulky, non-transforming toy for younger children. He features limited articulation in his limbs and head, two very blunt swords, and various playing sound clips and flashing lights. He has an North Americanised [[Australia]]n accent!

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/PBSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Power Bots Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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===''Transformers'' (2010)===
{{anchor|Deluxe Class toys}}
[[File:TF2010 Deluxe SidearmSideswipe toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Sideswipe, just after [[Tales of the Fallen issue 2|that incident in Buenos Aires]]. ''(Hasbro version pictured)'']]
[[File:AutobotAlliance Deluxe SidearmSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Cue the ''James Bond'' [[theme song|theme]]. ''(TakaraTomy version pictured)'']]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sidearm Sideswipe''' (Deluxe Class, 2010)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''AA-06'''
:*''Accessories:'' Two flare launchers
{{toydesigner|[[Alex Kubalsky]] (TakaraTomy)|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

:''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' Sidearm Sideswipe is designed for greater robot mode accuracy compared to his original Deluxe Class mold, and replaces his swords with twin hand-held flare launcher pistols (which were briefly used during the Egypt battle in ''Revenge of the Fallen''). Sideswipe now has toe and heel spurs so that he can balance on a flat surface without falling over, a problem that the previous versions of the character suffered. Both the black and silver molded "springs" on his lower legs are compatible with any weaponry using [[C joint|3mm clips]]. Additionally, the guns can be attached to flip-up panels and swung out in vehicle mode to form an [[attack mode]] of sorts, or they can swivel back while in this configuration to store on his back in either mode. Sideswipe's hands are capable of wielding [[5 mm post]]s.

:Hasbro added a red deco design to the front of the car and red windows in an effort to differentiate him from the previous Sideswipe molds. [[Stock photography|Stock photos]] on the back package and instructions show the front deco extending to the side panels, giving it a flame appearance. The Japanese [[TakaraTomy]] release of Sidearm Sideswipe drops red flame details in favor of keeping the silver paint on his wheels, which Hasbro dropped due to budgetary reasons. This release also changed the windows from red to a dark purple, for a more screen accurate appearance.

:His head's [[light-piping]] is sculpted out of the same red plastic as his windows, but his eyes are painted blue. Oddly, Hasbro's stock photos show him with only one eye painted.

:In an undocumented feature, his ankles can be rotated around in robot mode in order for them to look much more accurate to his CG model. Neither the instructions nor any official photography (nor either of the pictures on the right) reflects this step in his transformation.

:Sidearm Sideswipe seems to have undergone a last-second mold alteration; closing off the tops of the hip balljoint sockets, severely limiting his outward leg motion. There is a perfect outline where the change was made to the molding. This change was likely made to reduce stress on the rubber tubing connected to his thighs.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/SidearmSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sidearm Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:HFTD huntersrumble sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Damn cat walked on my hood again...]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Hunters Rumble''' (Target Figure 2-pack, 2010)}}</ul>

:This [[Target]]-exclusive bundle includes redecos of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe-class Sideswipe and ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe-class Interrogator [[Barricade (Movie)/toys|Barricade]]. This may be a reference to their meeting in "[[Cyber Missions 6]]".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TargetSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Hunters Rumble Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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{{anchor|shadowbladeha}}
[[File:TF2010 Human Alliance Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"We're totally buddies who worked together in the film!" "We certainly are, Sideways!"]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Shadow Blade Sideswipe / Mikaela Banes''' (Human Alliance, 2010)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Missile
{{toydesigner|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

: Part of the second and final wave of the [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'' toyline's]] Human Alliance toys, Shadow Blade Sideswipe is a redeco of the first Human Alliance Sideswipe in black, with silver stripes, tan robot details and deep blue windows.

: This time around, he comes with a new mold version of [[Mikaela Banes#Transformers (2010)|Mikaela Banes]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/HASideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Shadow Blade Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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===''Dark of the Moon''===
====''Cyberverse''====
[[File:TF-DOTM-Legion-Class-Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|BEEFCAAAAAAAAKE.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Cyberverse Legion Class, [[2011]])}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''1'''
:*''Hasbro ID number:'' '''006'''
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''CV09'''
{{toydesigner|[[Joe Kyde]] (Hasbro)}}

:''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]] Sideswipe is based on his open-top Stingray concept vehicle form. His only 3mm-compatible clip is his right hand. Like the rest of the final product, and unlike the stock photography, he is entirely dull, unpainted grey plastic.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/LegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Cyberverse Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:DOTMUGCVLSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Caramel candy cane.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Ultimate Gift Set''' (Cyberverse multi-pack, 2011)}}</ul>

:A redeco of the mold above.

:He comes in a [[Walmart]]-[[exclusive]] 5-pack with redecos of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Ultimategift|Optimus Prime]], [[Powerglide (DOTM)#Ultimategift|Powerglide]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Ultimategift|Bumblebee]], and [[Crowbar#Ultimategift|Crowbar]].
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:DOTM MechTechDeluxe Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|No floorboards; I'm a Flintstones car!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (MechTech Deluxe Class, 2011)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''DA08'''
:*''Accessories:'' MechTech Blaster/[[Cybertanium]] Sword

:Part of the second wave of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' ''[[MechTech]]'' Deluxe Class toys, this version of Sideswipe changes into a Corvette Stingray concept convertible in a light grey/beige color scheme and open top. The interior is highly detailed, with seats, dashboard and steering wheel all molded into the compartment, though it's missing its floorboards. The box art and the instructions can't seem to agree which way the tail lights (which are his toe/heel spurs) are supposed to point in robot mode - the stock photo used on the card and main instruction image show them pointing forward, while the instructions themselves indicate they should point backward, implying it is probably the correct way.

:Underneath the front hood (which ends up on his back) is some sculpted, unpainted faux-[[kibble]] in the form of four circles in a row, which are meant to represent the four exhaust pipes on the back of the vehicle, which usually end up on his back in robot mode. The ''actual'' pipes still end up on his back. They're just near his waist.

:Sideswipe's MechTech weapon, a large blaster, can convert to a runed Cybertanium sword with the press of a button. The weapon can be stored in any of the three MechTech ports in either mode, all of which include the spring-loaded filler piece to hide them when not in use. While the box art shows the blade of the flip-out sword painted blue with white [[Cybertronix]] runes, the final version opts for bare gunmetal plastic instead.

:The figure suffers from a small design flaw in that the front hood of the car is attached by such tiny pegs that it pops off quite easily.

:This mold was [[retool]]ed into [[Darksteel (DOTM)|Darksteel]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/Sideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Deluxe Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:DOTM Deluxe Scan Sideswipe toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"How can I stab things if my blades keep disappearing like that!?"]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe Class, 2011)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Sam Smith]] (Hasbro)|[[Andrew Scribner]] and [[Mark Maher]] (deco)}}

:This redeco of Deluxe class ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Sideswipe is [[exclusive]] to [[Toys"R"Us]]' Mission Earth: The Scan Series, to represent him [[Scanning|trans-scan]]ning his vehicle mode. As such, nearly all of his vehicle mode parts (and thus, most of his robot mode) are cast in translucent clear plastic, with the rear of his vehicle mode being left unpainted, the middle having painted scan lines, and the front having a heavy amount of [[paint operation]]s in order to cover the clear plastic.

:The stock photography is mistransformed: his feet are flipped around, with what should be the heel portions acting as the toes.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/TRUSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Scan Series Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:DOTM Deluxe Walmart Sideswipe toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|After much consideration, Sideswipe finally decided to join the X-Men.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe Class, 2011)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Two flare launchers
{{toydesigner|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

: This version of Sideswipe is a [[Walmart]]-exclusive redeco of Sidearm Sideswipe. Featuring a new racing-themed deco, he is one of the most fanwank-filled mass released toys ever, featuring a small [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] [[:File:Transtech Autobot symbol.png|Autobot symbol]] on the rear fenders, an endorsement of "[[Lithone (planet)|Lithonian Drivetrain]]" on the front fenders, another for "[[Maccadam's Old Oil House|Maccadam's]]" on his trunk, one further logo that for "[[Sunstreaker (disambiguation)|Sun bro]]", another ad for "[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]] [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattraps]]" (with the slogan "Safe. Humane. Yeah, right!" underneath), and finally the number 04, a nod to [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys|the original Sideswipe]]'s [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]]. Oh, and he's particularly [[Sideswipe (G1)/toys#Generation 2|blue and yellow]].

: Sideswipe's stock photos are slightly different from the final product, rendering his 04 in a different, non-italicized font and the front portion of the car mode having a strange faint checkerboard pattern painted on.

: He also looks not unlike ''[[Speed Stars]]'' [[Bluestreak (Speed Stars)|Bluestreak]].

: He was made available the UK as a Sainsbury's exclusive, and in Australia and New Zealand as a [[Kmart]] exclusive.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/WMSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Walmart Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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====''Human Alliance''====
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[[File:DOTM FlashFreezeAssault toys.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"Right, here's the plan, buddy: I'll go fight the giant killer alien robot, and you... what ''do'' you do, anyway?"]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Flash Freeze Assault''' (Human Alliance multi-pack, 2011)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Missile
{{toydesigner|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

:The Sideswipe included in this multi-pack is a redeco of Human Alliance Sideswipe in gray, black and green with white and black decorative stripes. He comes with a redeco of Human Alliance [[Icepick (PCC)|Icepick]] and the human figure [[Sergeant Chaos]], who is shown riding Sideswipe in stock photos despite being evil Icepick's partner. It also shows Sideswipe holding Icepick in his weapon mode, with a legally-cautious sticker saying "SIDESWIPE '''CANNOT''' HOLD WEAPON" at the back, as Sideswipe's Human Alliance mold isn't designed to and cannot hold MechTech [[5 mm post|post]]s.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/KMSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Flash Freeze Assault Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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====''Robo Power''====
=====''Go-Bots''=====
[[File:DOTM Go-Bots Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|wen i grow up i wanna be an astwonaut!!!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (2011)}}</ul>
:A simple cute toy of Sideswipe with oversized wheels aimed at young children. It transforms from a cute Corvette into and equally cute deformed robot.
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===''Age of Extinction''===
[[File:AOEPlatinumSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Not [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]] himself.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Optimus Prime with Trailer and Sideswipe''' (Platinum Edition, [[2014]])}}</ul>

:A metallic redeco of [[Swerve (Movie)#Revenge of the Fallen|Swerve]] (itself a retool of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class Sideswipe sporting an alternate head sculpt), presumably as an [[homage]] to [[Sideswipe (G1)|''Generation 1'' Sideswipe]].

:This figure was only available in a ''[[Transformers: Platinum Edition|Platinum Edition]]'' set with a redeco of ''Age of Extinction'' [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#"First Edition" toys|"First Edition" Optimus Prime]] and the ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#mp10|MP-10 Convoy]]/[[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#mp10hasbro|Optimus Prime]] trailer without [[Roller (G1)#Masterpiece|Roller]]. In the United States, this set was a "shared exclusive" between [[BigBadToyStore]], [[Toys"R"Us]], and [[Hasbro Toy Shop]]. In Canada and Singapore, it was exclusive to Toys"R"Us, whereas in Australia, it was a Myer exclusive. In Taiwan, it was made available for purchase during a event celebrating the launch of [[Transformers Rising]].

:He is rather blatantly mis-transformed in the official [[stock photography|stock photo]]—his feet/wheels are the most obvious, but also his chest isn't pegged in, his swords are in the retracted position, and his shoulder kibble is lowered.

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[[File:Transformers-Movie-Advanced-Series-EX-Sideswipe.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|''I'd rather be Shiny, Like a treasure from a sunken pirate wreck'']]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' ([[November 28]], [[2015]])}}</ul>
:*''ID number:'' '''EX'''
:*''Accessories:'' 1 machine gun, 2 pistols

:Released as a Toys'R'Us Japan exclusive, ''Movie Advanced Series'' Sideswipe is a redeco of the [[Sideswipe (Movie)#Deluxe Class toys 3|Deluxe Mechtech toy]], featuring extensive silver deco similar to the TakaraTomy release of the [[Sideswipe (Movie)#Deluxe Class toys 2|''Transformers'' (2010) Sidearm Sideswipe]] figure. He also features three weapons, which were reused from ''Age of Extinction'' Crosshairs.
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===''Kre-O''===
{{note|The ''[[Kre-O]]'' Lockdown Air Raid set includes a [[Kreon]] named "Sideswipe", but inexplicably based on [[Leadfoot (DOTM)#Kre-O|''Dark of the Moon'' Leadfoot]] rather than Sideswipe. See Leadfoot's page for details.}}
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===''The Last Knight''===
[[File:TLKTinyTurboChanger_Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|300px|right|"Damn, I'm small"]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Tiny Turbo Changer, [[2017]])}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''1'''
:*''Bag Code'': '''K'''
:Released in Series 1 of [[Tiny Turbo Changers]], Sideswipe changes from robot to an unlicensed approximation of his on-screen vehicle mode. Interestingly, his car mode is based on the Aston Martin-esque design used on his [[Speed Stars]] toy. He features articulation at his shoulders and his hands are compatible with ''[[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]'' weapons and other small accessories. Baggies stamped with the letter 'K' contain Sideswipe figures.
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===''Studio Series''===
[[File:Studio-Series-MV3-29-Deluxe-Class-Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Ay yi yi, I'm your enormous metal butterfly.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe Class, [[2018]])}}</ul>
:*''Movie'': '''''Dark of the Moon'''''
:*''Hasbro ID number'': '''29'''
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''SS-20'''
:*''TakaraTomy release date'': [[January 26]], [[2019]]
:*''Accessories'': Two swords/side car kibble, two guns, "Dreads Standoff" backdrop

:''[[Studio Series]]'' Sideswipe is based off his appearance in ''Dark of the Moon'', transforming into a Corvette Stingray convertible with a detailed interior. He includes two swords, two guns, and a cardboard backdrop display depicting the Mexican standoff scene from ''Dark of the Moon''. The guns can store on two slots behind his hips. While not mentioned in the instructions, the swords can fit nicely into slots on his thighs for storage. As a neat little feature, Sideswipe has moving pistons on the back of his legs, reminiscent of the old [[Mech Alive]] gimmick.

:In vehicle mode, the swords form the sides of his car while the guns store underneath the rear, with the barrels protruding out the back like exhaust pipes... right underneath his ''actual'' sculpted in exhaust ports. Oops.

:Robot kibble underneath the hood has a tendency to scrape along the ground, preventing the car from rolling smoothly. Considering how much of the figure is coated in silver paint, care should be taken when handling to prevent scratching the paint.

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[[File:Studio-Series-78-ROTF-Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Buy me again and I'll let you escape with your dignity!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe Class, [[2021]])}}</ul>
:*''Movie'': '''''Revenge of the Fallen'''''
:*''Hasbro ID number'': '''78'''
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''SS-77'''
:* ''TakaraTomy release date'': [[April 30]], [[2022]]
:*''Accessories'': Two swords, two guns, "Shanghai Pursuit" backdrop
{{toydesigner|[[Sam Smith]] (Hasbro), [[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}<ref>Sam Smith's [https://www.instagram.com/p/CcEKcSaOPFp/ Instagram post] about ''Studio Series'' 78 ''ROTF'' Sideswipe</ref>

:The second ''Studio Series'' Sideswipe figure is a retool of the above release to match his earlier appearance in ''Revenge of the Fallen''; his Corvette Stingray alternate mode now has a closed roof, new hood, and omits the car spoiler of the ''Dark of the Moon''-branded release, though it lacks the headlights for this version of the car. In his robot mode, Sideswipe notably has more accurate silver paint applications. Sideswipe also comes with the two swords and the two guns from his earlier release (the latter of which, while accurate to ''Dark of the Moon'', do not match the guns he used in ''Revenge of the Fallen''), and comes with a different backdrop display depicting the [[Shanghai]] chase from ''Revenge of the Fallen''.

:In robot mode, the guns now store in new slots on his back. The swords can still fit in his thighs, but now have dedicated storage on his remolded door wings. The instructions neglect to show how the guns are stored in vehicle mode; they can remain in the slots on his back for the entirety of the transformation or peg into the slots in the backs of his hands as they did on the ''Dark of the Moon'' version of the mold.

===''Masterpiece Movie Series''===
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[[File:MPMN Sideswipe Reveal.jpg|thumb|upright=1.77|thumb|Somehow the most likely mold for a Masterpiece [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].]]
*'''Sideswipe''' ([[2026]])
**''Movie'': '''''Revenge of the Fallen'''''
**''ID number'': '''MPMN-01'''

:''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece: Movie Series]] NEXT'' Sideswipe is a new mold toy based on his appearance in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' film. Announced during a livestream under TakaraTomy's [[T-SPARK]] banner, he is the first in a new subline of ''Masterpiece Movie Series'' toys. Similar to other MPM releases of its time, it bears certain engineering similarities to ''Studio Series'' Sideswipe, notably in the design of its limbs and chest.

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==Merchandise==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====RPMs - ''Robot Powered Machines''====
[[File:ROTF-toy RPM Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|He's got such an ego, he gets a tattoo of ''himself''!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (2009)}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''Speed Series'''
:*''Number:'' '''04 of 04'''

:''[[Robot Powered Machines]]'' Sideswipe is a small, non-transforming car with his robot mode sculpted underneath. Said robot mode has his swords colored red, for some reason - a trait that would carry on into most of this mold's subsequent repaints. The car's wheels feature through-axle construction for speedy racing on flat surfaces.
[[File:RPM Sideswipe leakedproto.jpg|thumb|left|140px|upright=1.1|"We were on the verge of greatness, we were this close."]]
:Although leaked images of a [[prototype]] that surfaced in 2008<ref name="rpmproto">[http://jalopnik.com/5047177/leaked-transformers-corvette-centennial-concept-toy-possibly-reveals-robot-mode Mirrored photos of early R.P.M. Sideswipe toy at Jalopnik.com]</ref> (these being, in fact, the very first leaked images of a piece of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' merchandise) were pretty accurate to the Corvette Stingray car from the movie, the actual RPM Sideswipe toy has been severely altered and looks more like a weird mish-mash between a Ferrari, an Aston Martin, and a Nissan GT-R R35. Unfortunately, Mattel was able to secure exclusive rights for releasing a Concept Stingray model car at a 1:64 scale for their ''[[Hot Wheels (franchise)|Hot Wheels]]'' line (the toy was released as part of the "2010 New Models" lineup), and thus, Hasbro was unable to provide this toy with the more accurate vehicle mode design that had been originally planned.

:And to further rub salt in the wound? The Mattel toy drops a Transformers reference in its packaging blurb, saying that ''"this concept car also draws on Corvette cues from other generations, making a sweet "transformation" from old to new"'' <ref>"With a futuristic shape based on the original 1959 Stingray race car, this concept car also draws on Corvette cues from other generations, making a sweet "transformation" from old to new."</ref> (notice the not-so-subtle quotation marks).

:This mold was also used to make ''[[Speed Stars]]'' [[Bluestreak (Speed Stars)|Bluestreak]].

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[[File:ROTF-toy SideswipeRPMvWreck.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Sideswipe vs. Wreckloose''' (2010)}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''Battle Series 2'''
:*''Number:'' '''01 of 06'''

:A redeco of RPM Sideswipe with red stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his roof. It was only available in a two-pack with [[Wreckloose (ROTF)|Wreckloose]].

: As part of the final wave of RPMs, Battle Series 2 did not get released through normal retail outlets in the United States, instead showing up for sale first in Canada, Asia and Europe. Later, though, it would show up in the US though [[Toys"R"Us|Toys"R"Us Express]] mall stores and discount chains like Ross and TJ Maxx.

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[[File:ROTFRPMMetalHeroesSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (2010)}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''Metal Heroes'''
:*''Number:'' '''07 of 08'''

:A redeco of RPM Sideswipe with black door-stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his roof. This series is only known to have been released in Australia, the Philippines, Hong Kong and other Asian countries, and several European markets (i.e. in most Hasbro markets outside the Americas). Its deco would later serve as the basis for the ''Speed Stars'' release of "Metal Heroes" Sideswipe.

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[[File:ROTFRPMRobotRiderSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (2010)}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''Robot Riders'''
:*''Number:'' '''01 of 03'''

:"Robot Riders" Sideswipe is a new-mold figure of Sideswipe's robot mode that is built to roll on wheels. This figure was only released in Australia, the Philippines, Hong Kong, and other Asian countries. Its deco would later serve as the basis for the ''Speed Stars'' release of "Robot Riders" Sideswipe.

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[[File:ROTFRPMAllsparkSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (2010)}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''Allspark'''
:*''Number:'' '''02 of 04'''

:A redeco of ''RPM'' Sideswipe with blue door-stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his hood. While "Allspark" Sideswipe was officially listed during the run of the ''RPM'' series (on the back of the Asian market release of ''RPM'' "Allspark" Starscream), the only image of it was revealed by a downloadable poster on the official Transformers website of Turkey.

:Its paint layout would later serve as the basis for the ''Speed Stars'' Bluestreak toy.

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[[File:ROTFRPMNESTSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (2010)}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''N.E.S.T. Global Alliance'''
:*''Number:'' '''04 of 04'''

:A redeco of ''RPM'' "Robot Riders" Sideswipe in dark grey with gold-painted arm hubcaps. While "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" Sideswipe was officially listed during the run of the ''RPM'' series (on the back of the Asian market releases of ''RPM'' "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" Bumblebee, Optimus Prime and Ironhide), the only image of it was revealed by a downloadable poster on the official Transformers website of Turkey.

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===''Robot Heroes''===
[[File:Robotheroessideswipesideways.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Still needs training wheels.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Sideswipe & Sideways''' (Two-pack, 2009)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

: Sideswipe is part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]] [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' figures and is packaged versus [[Sideways (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Sideways]]. He has rotational articulation at both shoulders, but his head is molded into his torso. In order to stand up, the figurine must rest its weight on one of his arms.

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[[File:Robotheroestwinswidewaysprimedemolishorsideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"Damn, I'm cute."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Shanghai Shootout''' (Multi-pack, 2009)}}</ul>
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:"Shanghai Shootout" replicates the opening action scene from ''Revenge of the Fallen'', featuring figurines of [[Skids (ROTF)#RHShanghai|Skids]] & [[Mudflap (ROTF)#RHShanghai|Mudflap]] in ice cream truck mode, [[Sideways (ROTF)#RHShanghai|Sideways]] in vehicle mode, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/merchandise#RHShanghai|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Demolishor]], and Sideswipe in vehicle mode.
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===''Speed Stars''===
====Mini-Vehicles====
[[File:SpeedStars-toy SideswipeVWreck.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|At last, I no longer have red swords - at only the cost of everything else around me being red instead!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Sideswipe vs. Wreckloose''' (2010)}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''Battle Series 2'''
:*''Number:'' '''01 of 06'''

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Speed Stars]]'' Mini-Vehicle versus packs, this Sideswipe is a more widely-released version of the ''RPMs'' Battle Series 2 pack, coming with [[Wreckloose (ROTF)#Speed Stars|Wreckloose]]. And like Wreckloose, this version has quite a few changes from the barely-released ''RPMs'' version. The shiny silver overspray is gone, leaving a more matte silver plastic. The twin red stripes have been turned into a single large stripe. And the relief of his robot mode, now cast in red plastic instead of brown, is now done entirely in a single shade of silver, plus the raised "SIDESWIPE" at his "feet" is completely unpainted.

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[[File:SpeedStars RobotRiders Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (2010)}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''Robot Riders'''
:*''Number:'' '''01 of 03'''

: The ''Speed Stars'' version of "Robot Riders" Sideswipe has less paint details than the RPM version, and replaces the dark silver paint with a brighter silver, among many other changes.

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[[File:SpeedStars MetalHeroes Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Now 100% red-free!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' (2010)}}</ul>
:*''Series:'' '''Metal Heroes'''
:*''Number:'' '''07 of 08'''

: The ''Speed Stars'' version of "Metal Heroes" Sideswipe is mostly the same, but has unpainted headlights, tail-lights, and rear bumper, and his robot mode has less painted details. He lacks the sculpted insignia on his underside.

: During the period between 26 December 2010 and 31 January 2011, Hasbro ran their "Supercharge Your Holidays" promotion: for every $20 spent on Hasbro-branded product, customers could receive a free, random product from a list provided by Hasbro. Among the items on the list were "Transformers Combiners and Speed Star Mini-Vehicle" and "Transformers Activator and Speed Star Mini-Vehicle." According to [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75487 this discussion thread on Allspark.com], Speed Stars Metal Heroes Sideswipe was one of the figures distributed.

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===''Dark of the Moon''===
====''Speed Stars''====
[[File:SpeedStars StealthForce MiniChangers SideswipeVsStarscream.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Stealth Force Sideswipe Vs. Starscream''' (2011)}}</ul>

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[[File:SpeedStars StealthForce MiniChangers Sideswipe&SentinelPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Stealth Force Sideswipe & Sentinel Prime''' (2011)}}</ul>

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===Jada Toys===
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe Corvette Stingray Concept''' (Scale 1/24 Die Cast Vehicle, <s>2019</s>)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Collectible coin
:Announced by [[Jada Toys]] in 2018, ''Hollywood Rides'' Sideswipe was planned to be a 1/24 scaled non-transforming die-cast car with rubber tires based on his ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Corvette Stingray alternate mode and possibly featuring opening doors, front hood and back trunk. Similar to the ''Robot Powered Machines'', the car would have featured a sculpted robot mode underneath. However, the product remains unreleased and is most likely cancelled by now.

:Sideswipe would have come with a collectible coin with his face engraved on it.
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<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe Corvette Stingray Concept''' (Scale 1/32 Die Cast Vehicle, <s>2019</s>)}}</ul>
:A 1/32 scaled version of Sideswipe was also announced, but remains equally unreleased.
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===Prime 1 Studio===
[[File:Prime_1_Studio_Museum_Masterline_DOTM_Sideswipe.jpg|upright=1.11|thumb|"Damn, I'm expensive."]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Sideswipe''' ([[2024]])}}</ul>
:*''Movie:'' '''''Dark of the Moon'''''
:*''ID number:'' '''MMTFM-35''' / '''MMTFM-35DXS''' (Deluxe)
:*''Accessories'': Base, alternate sword-wielding arms (Deluxe), English Logo Plate (Deluxe, global version), Chinese Logo Plate (Deluxe, Chinese version)

:[[Prime 1 Studio]] ''Museum Masterline'' Sideswipe is a 22-inch non-transforming sculpture based on his ''Dark of the Moon'' appearance. The statue is made of polystone along with other materials and features LED lights on his eyes and chest. He wields his blasters as seen in the standoff scene in the third movie.

:The "Deluxe Bonus Version" comes with another pair of interchangeable arms, this time with his signature arm blades deployed. It also comes with a ''Transformers: Dark of the Moon'' logo plate, in English for global releases and in Chinese for the Chinese release.

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==References==
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[[Category:Age of Extinction Autobots]]
[[Category:Cyberverse]]
[[Category:Dark of the Moon Autobots]]
[[Category:Human Alliance]]
[[Category:Kmart exclusives]]
[[Category:Platinum Edition]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Autobots]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:Studio Series Autobots]]
[[Category:Target exclusives]]
[[Category:The Last Knight Autobots]]
[[Category:Toys"R"Us exclusives]]
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Autobots]]
[[Category:Wal-Mart exclusives]]

Mudflap (ROTF)

2025-10-23T14:04:29Z

Pat: /* Notes */

{{factions|autobot|NEST}}
{{disambig3|Mudflap}}
:''Mudflap is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[movie continuity family]].''

[[File:ROTF Mudflap promo.jpg|thumb|upright=1.95|Despite appearances, his chest is not someone's face.]]

The goofy-looking '''Mudflap''' and his [[Twins (ROTF)|twin]] [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] are a result of a split spark, and share a close bond accordingly. Mudflap is hyperactive, noisy, argumentative, and eager... not that different from his brother. He's so desperate to impress that he comes off as having the robot equivalent of ADHD.<ref>[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|The Movie Universe]]</ref> When they're not trying to outdo each other in crazy, daredevil antics, the twins are usually bickering with each other over anything. Like Skids, he possesses hyper-reactive optical imaging scanners, making him able to process tactical information faster than any other Transformer (except Skids).<ref>[[Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Skids Profile, Transformers #1 (Titan, Vol.2)]]</ref> As irritated as Mudflap gets from Skids' vocal one-upmanship, he realizes that they actually work best as a team.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Mudflap Battle Bio]</ref>

Each twin can transform into smaller, separate vehicles or combine into a single, more durable alternate mode.<ref>[[Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Skids Profile, Transformers #1 (Titan, Vol.2)]]—greatly expanded from his ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|The Movie Universe]]'' bio</ref> Upon first arriving on [[Earth]], Mudflap and his brother took the form of a beat-up old ice cream truck, but he later [[Scanning|scanned]] a {{w|Chevrolet Trax (concept car)|Chevrolet Trax}} for a disguise, and, sometime after that, a {{w|Chevrolet_Spark#M300|Chevrolet Spark}}. That being said, it's unlikely the twins will keep an alt-mode for long.

{{bigquote|Nobody messes with the twins!|Mudflap while doing damage to [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]|''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Movies===
====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
{{voiceactor|[[Reno Wilson]] (English), [[Yōhei Tadano]] (Japanese)|[[Zhang Wei]] (Chinese), [[Gerald Schaale]] (German), [[Davide Lepore]] (Italian), [[Moisés Ivan Mora]] (Latin American-Spanish), [[Albert Trifol Segarra]] (Castilian Spanish), [[Marc Perez]] (European French), [[Frédéric Desager]] (Canadian French), [[Cláudio Galvan]] (Portuguese), [[Uğur Taşdemir]] (Turkish), [[Kim Ki-heung]] (Korean)}}

[[File:ROTF-icecreamtruck.jpg|thumb|left|ICE CREAM!... ICE CREAM!... I'm all out of ICE CREAM!...]]

The twins were first into action for NEST's mission to Shanghai, slowly trundling through the city streets in their ice-cream truck mode and taunting Decepticons in the area to show themselves. Two Decepticons soon did: [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] and [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. At NEST's orders, the twins went after the smaller foe and, working with Arcee, managed to herd him into an alleyway. However, their slow, ungainly choice of alternate mode left them unable to keep up with Sideways. While Arcee leapt through a building to pursue the Decepticon, the twins tried to go around the building to catch him. However, the twins inadvertently split apart from one another when they rounded the corner too sharply, thus taking them out of the chase. Mudflap took the blame for the crash, but Skids still berated (and smacked) Mudflap for his failure.

[[File:ROTF Twins truck robot modes.jpg|thumb|Ben and Jerry?]]

Upon arrival to Diego Garcia and NEST headquarters, the twins were given new, individual alternate forms to make sure another incident like that never happened. Mudflap wanted the Chevy Beat as a vehicle form, but after a brief wrestling match with his brother, he was relegated to the form of the Chevrolet Trax.

Later, the twins, along with the other NEST-allied Autobots, were dispatched to look for [[Sam Witwicky]] when Decepticons were detected heading towards his college. After [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] was killed by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the twins helped the Autobot force fight off the Decepticon leader and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], allowing Sam, [[Leo Spitz]], [[Mikaela Banes]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] to make good their escape. Skids and Mudflap met up with Bumblebee and the humans, and together they fled to a remote location. After the twins teased Leo for a while for his panic attack, Sam inquired whether one of them could interpret the Cybertronic symbols with which he had become obsessed. The twins claimed that they couldn't read the ancient Language of the Primes and weren't much into reading, anyway.

[[File:ROTF movie SkidsMudflap bigmother.jpg|thumb|left|And this is us when we traveled to...hey, Skids, where did we go again?]]

With the help of the Decepticon [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and former [[Sector Seven]] agent [[Seymour Simmons]], the group made their way to the Smithsonian, where the humans reactivated the venerable ex-Decepticon [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]]. He teleported them all to [[Egypt]] before telling them the tale of the original [[Dynasty of Primes|Primes]], the [[Star Harvester]], which had the potential to destroy all life on Earth, and finally, the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the key to activating the harvester and possibly the only thing that could bring Optimus Prime back to life. When the Matrix could not be found at the ruins of [[Petra]], Mudflap questioned why they were helping Sam, wondering what they had done for the Autobots. Skids pointed out that Sam ''had'' killed Megatron, but Mudflap said the point was moot since Megatron was now back. After calling each other "scared" and "ugly" the two began to fight with one another. After damaging the structure and nearly crushing the humans, Bumblebee picked the twins up, bashed them together, and threw them out the door. However, their bickering created a hole in the wall where the [[Tomb of the Primes]] lay, and with it, the Matrix.

Making their way back to the Pyramids where NEST waited with Optimus Prime's body, the group came under attack by Starscream. Mudflap, Skids, Leo and Simmons acted as a decoy to lure the Decepticons away from Sam and Mikaela. Unfortunately, they attracted the attention of the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]], who [[combiner|combined]] into [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] and attacked by vacuuming up loose objects such as sand, cars, and Mudflap. Hanging on for dear life inside the monster's mouth, he tried to use his "{{w|Kung-Fu grip|kung-fu grip}}", but was sucked further inside, losing his shoulder guards in the process.

As Skids mourned the loss of his twin, Simmons realized that the safest place to be was directly under the giant. But he had survived being vacuumed up by Devastator, and to escape he had blasted a hole through its head. To buy the humans time to escape, Skids clambered up Devastator's [[Hightower (ROTF)|right forepaw]] to assist Mudflap. Skids threw a cable to Mudflap, who grabbed it and swung off Devastator's head onto his arm. However, once they had landed, Mudflap accidentally shot Skids in the face, knocking them off. At [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s command, Devastator continued onto the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

{{note|Mudflap's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, are also chronicled in the novels ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', ''[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Junior Novel]]'', and ''[[The Last Prime]]''; the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation|Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation]]'' and ''[[Movie Trilogy]]'' comics; and the storybooks "[[I Am Optimus Prime (ROTF)|I Am Optimus Prime]]", "[[Operation Autobot]]", "[[Rise of the Decepticons]]", "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Electronic Voice Changer|Revenge of the Fallen Electronic Voice Changer]]", and "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Mix & Match|Revenge of the Fallen Mix & Match]]".}}

====''Dark of the Moon'' film====
[[File:DOTM Skids, Mudflap, Que and Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|Skids: "Bay fired us from ''DOTM'', what a pussy!" Mudflap: "At least he [[Animation error#Continuity error|forgot to remove us from this scene]], HA!"]]

Mudflap and Skids were at the end of an Autobot convoy as the team rolled into the hangar of NEST's [[Washington, D.C.]] base.

Mudflap was later parked next to Sideswipe when Sam arrived at NEST HQ for the first time. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

{{note|Mudflap and Skids were originally scripted to feature in ''Dark of the Moon'', but their appearances were cut from the finished film, save for this ''very'' brief shot. Mudflap and Skids were also involved in the Battle of Chicago, early footage in Chicago confirms this.[https://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2010/07/mpea-busway-set-pics-explosions-and.html]}}

====''Age of Extinction'' film====
Five years after the Battle of [[Chicago]], Mudflap was not listed as "deceased" by the CIA taskforce, [[Cemetery Wind]].<ref>[[:File:AOE-Kill-Cards-Set-3.jpg]]</ref> {{storylink|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction}}
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===Titan movie comics===
[[File:Titan2-1 Mudflap.jpg|left|thumb|Quick! We have to get to auditions before the cool characters!]]

Sometimes, he has a small forcefield in vehicle mode. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

Mudflap first met [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] when they were about to be thrown into a [[smelting pool]]. It was fun! {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

Mudflap and Skids happily stayed on Cybertron, going through intensive training (which ''totally'' wasn't goofing off) and having extreme-sports contests. Neither wanted to leave their homeworld, and they were the only Transformers on it until [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] turned up with [[Purple generic drone|a Decepticon army]]. When they heard him mention a [[Star Harvester]], Mudflap said they should tell someone...but was a bit upset to find out the fastest way to do that would be to leave Cybertron and tell the Autobots in person.

The decision was made for them when the Decepticons attacked. Mudflap took some hits, causing Skids to obliterate the Decepticons responsible, but for the most part, their training paid off. However, he realised they were running out of places to run, so he followed his brother in leaving the plane, with only one course of action remaining: follow the message [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] had beamed into space and head for [[Earth]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Training Day}}

The twins made it to Earth soon, crash-landing in Toronto, Canada. On the way in, Mudflap hit a {{w|CN Tower|big tower}}, and was a bit guilty since he knew how these primitive luddite humans still needed radio waves (the saps). They swam their way to Ball's Falls, where they picked up Earth alternate modes and, Mudflap taking charge, set out to try and find local Autobots and warn them about the Star Harvester.

Driving along the wrong side of the Interstate, the twins were attacked by the [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]] [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]], who pursued them across open countryside, trying to kill them on Starscream's orders. Mudflap transformed and blinded the old Decepticon with a fistful of dirt, which bought the twins some time to find cover. However, the airborne enemy kept up with the twins, and Mudflap lost a chance at cover when he ran back to save his brother. Luckily they were saved by Bumblebee, who attacked and forced Ransack to retreat. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

[[File:Titan2-3 Mudflap face.jpg|right|thumb|Sorry, [[Jon Davis-Hunt|Jon]], at some point you have to draw their ugly mugs.]]

Now living at [[NEST]]'s Californian base with Bumblebee as their minder, Skids and Mudflap repeatedly asked to deliver their info to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]—and only Optimus, much to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]'s annoyance. He was more annoyed when they ambushed him to get to Optimus...who, as it turns out, was away on a need-to-know mission anyway.

After this defeat, and with Ironhide having bluntly told them nobody believed them, they desperately asked to join in a NEST op in [[Las Vegas]]...getting turned down, because they were too crap to get involved. Mudflap almost called their superior a very rude word over this, and after the team had left, he decided they should go to Vegas ''anyway'' to show Ironhide just what they could do! What they could do, it turned out, was screw up a successful mission by freeing [[Grindor (ROTF)|a captured Decepticon]] by trying to "shoot him down". Mudflap was left mortified. Ironhide, recognising what they were trying to do, told him that maybe they could work on training the twins not to jump in without looking, and that the trick was to learn from mistakes. The twins claimed they'd try. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

They soon wished they hadn't, as they were condemned to NEST's [[United Kingdom|Orkney Islands]] base for days of sim-com (simulated combat) training under [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]. Mudflap agreed with Skids' theory that this was an excuse to keep them away from Optimus, and the whole situation got on his nerves. They both protested to Sideswipe that they could handle Decepticons. Him pointing out their failure with Grindor shut them up. However, the training was interrupted when [[Ravage (ROTF)|a huge metal cat monster]] broke into the base, KOed Sideswipe, and tried to eat the twins!

[[File:Titan4 Mudflapravage.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4| Nice kitty...nice kitty...]]

They transformed and fled, with all attempts at holding it off failing. Mudflap hit on a plan of trapping the creature in the sim-com room and letting the drones shoot it down. He pulled this off, using himself as bait; in the process, he received a communication from [[Soundwave (ROTF)|the monster's master]], who demanded to know what the twins knew about some lost and fallen guy. Mudflap briefly wondered who this dude was, then shrugged and just sprang the trap on Ravage.

With that done, the twins tried to fill in the revived Sideswipe... except the creature had gone, leaving their instructor with the view that ''they'd'' knocked him out in revenge for their training. Between that and Grindor, he thought they were up to something... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

[[File:Titan2-5 twinsHEstartedit.jpg|right|thumb|Even the ''characters'' [[Mudflap (ROTF)#Notes|shift the blame]] over who came up with their dialogue!]]

The twins were later taken to Diego Garcia, and ecstatic to learn Optimus was coming there! Okay, he's only dropping a prisoner off, he's not here to see them and knows nothing about their story, but they ignored all that and drove off when Sideswipe wasn't looking so they could greet the leader. Mudflap squeed over how Optimus would be so proud with ''his'' work! Skids picked up on that and accused his brother of trying to steal the glory, and soon the two of them were having a big fight and slagging match...

And so their first meeting with Optimus Prime was to be yelled at for conduct unbecoming of an Autobot warrior. (See the pic to the side to find out how ''that'' went.)

That was when [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] made his attack, blasting at the distracted Prime and moving to free the prisoner [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. Mudflap swiftly grabbed a weapon to stop this escape, but Sideways snatched it from his hands and used it himself to cover his retreat. Sideswipe, watching from a distance, believed Mudflap had ''given'' over the weapon, and convinced Prime that the twins were traitors: they must have helped Scorponok get here and now assisted him in his mission, on top of freeing Grindor and attacking him! Mudflap and Skids protested they were being set up because they knew too much, but it fell on deaf ears as they were taken into custody... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}

[[File:Titan2-6 aimedatyourheart.jpg|left|thumb|Heart, head, near enough...]]

Following this, the decision was made to exile the twins into orbit. Mudflap and his brother moaned that they should've just ignored the Fallen, but help was at hand... from the Decepticons? Mudflap angrily told [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Decepticon agent Wheelie]] that they didn't ''want'' to be freed by ''him'', but the complaint fell on deaf ears: now the twins looked like even ''bigger'' traitors. The two went underground to clear their names, and hit on the foolproof plan of abducting [[Sam Witwicky]] from his house and pleading with him to tell their story to Optimus. All this did was cause Bumblebee to launch an attack to rescue Sam. Mudflap pleaded with the angry Bumblebee that they weren't traitors, that they had vital info...

...and then [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] gunned down the scout and offered the twins sanctuary in the Decepticons. Nowhere else to go, Mudflap took Soundwave's hand and said he'd never liked Earth anyway... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

[[File:Titan deceptitwins.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|"No offence, Sideways, but you're a boring, stupid, unimportant waste of metal and your mum hates you."]]

Once in the Decepticons, he had fun dissing all the other members as being losers and getting on ''everyone's'' nerve, before Soundwave finally sent them on a mission to bring in a rogue member. Once on Earth again, he was genuinely surprised to find out Skids was only ''pretending'' to defect; his annoyed brother explained the plan was that, since Soundwave would send a minder to watch them, they could ambush their minder and have a prisoner to give to the Autobots.

The rogue member turned out to be Ransack, and Mudflap helped Skids lie to him that the Fallen had sent them. Talking instead of fighting? That annoyed ''both'' of their minders, and they came under attack by Grindor and Sideways! Mudflap was ordered after Sideways, and engaged him in a game of chicken; the Decepticon blinked first and crashed into a tree. He thought this was enough, but Skids was determined that they'd now take the fight to Soundwave himself! (Mudflap's considered response was "YOWZA!") {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

[[File:Titan2-8 twinsanywaytowelcome.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.95]]

Upon returning to the Phobos base, Mudflap was consulted about having a plan of attack. He decided why bother having plans ''now'', just attack! The twins stormed the base, and Mudflap was able to defeat Ravage by ducking the beast's attacks and planting an electrical bomb on him. However, this success was quickly undone and Mudflap found himself about to be killed by Starscream... but the battle gave Ransack an opening to shoot the Seeker in the back and escape, causing the other Decepticons to chase after him! The twins had ''no'' idea what ''that'' was all about... but this was just a short respite, as the twins discovered just what that army massing on Cybertron had been planning: to arrive at the Phobos base en route to Earth...

The twins stood ready to make their last stand, and Mudflap prepared to take down as many drones as possible... when Optimus arrived with the other Autobots! The twins had been tracked to Phobos and to their shock, the other Autobots had realised they weren't traitors and were even apologising! And with all the street cred of uncovering the Phobos base, the twins were welcomed to the Autobots' Earth division. Skids briefly wondered if they should mention "the ''Fa-''" again, but Mudflap told him they were ''never'' mentioning ''that'' bloody thing again. Whatever happened, [[#Revenge of the Fallen movie|would happen]]... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}
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===IDW movie comics===
[[File:Tales of the Fallen Issue 6 Twins.jpg|thumb|upright=0.85|Off to go hang out with [[Muffins]], I'm sure.]]
After hearing Optimus Prime's call into space for all Autobots, Skids and Mudflap were captured by the Decepticons [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] and [[Flatline (ROTF)|Flatline]] just before reaching Earth. Seeking to perfect some new medical experiments, Flatline tried to forcibly reprogram the brothers' processors, but only succeeded in leaving them addled and confused. Another of Flatline's experiments, the tri-fold biker named [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], helped Skids and Mudflap escape. They picked up a ship and made their trek the rest of the way to Earth. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 6|Tales of the Fallen #6}}

[[File:Alliance04 icecreamtruck.jpg|left|thumb|upright=0.85|Mudflap is the one in back.]]
Skids and Mudflap followed Optimus Prime's message to [[Earth]] and arrived on the planet with [[Topspin (DOTM)|Topspin]], [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]], [[Roadbuster (DOTM)|Roadbuster]], [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]], [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] and [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]] on the [[Wreckers]] ship [[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]. The ship and the Wreckers stayed behind in [[NASA]], {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}} {{storylink|Dark of the Moon issue 3|Dark of the Moon #3}} The Twins both chose the [[combiner|combined]] form of an old, beat-up ice cream truck. The newly arrived Autobots joined the human-Transformer military alliance [[NEST]] and began training in earnest at [[Diego Garcia]], but soon had to be deployed to [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}

Skids and Mudflap were in [[Seattle]] with NEST tracking the Decepticon straggler, [[Alice (ROTF)|Alice]]. They helped guide her stolen RV right into Sideswipe's sights, and he then impaled the "girl" in her seat. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 1|Nefarious #1}}

Later, when [[Theodore Galloway]] and his unit were attacked by [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] en route to investigate the mysterious activities of the enigmatic [[Initiative]] at [[Hoover Dam]], the Autobots dispatched Skids and Mudflap to Galloway's aid. Together, they held Ransack off until a NEST strike team could arrive and finish him off. The Twins then accompanied Galloway and the soldiers to Hoover Dam, and while the Initiative forces had already cleared out, Skids and Mudflap realized what they had been after: residual energy from the [[AllSpark]] that had been kept there. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 4|Nefarious #4}} To uncover the Initiative's secret goals, the Autobots soon allied themselves with [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], and followed his lead to the Initiative's base of operations in [[Crater Lake]], [[Oregon]]. Skids and Mudflap were deployed to attack the base from the east; when they were met with resistance in the form of the Initiative's troops, they took them out of the equation by disabling the advanced weaponry they were wielding with precision blasts. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 5|Nefarious #5}} He and Skids then worked as back-up for Bumblebee's team of cadets in the final battle at Crater Lake. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 6|Nefarious #6}}

When NEST discovered that Starscream was selling Transformer weaponry to humans, a sting operation was staged in which [[Theodore Galloway]] would pose as a buyer to lure the Decepticons in. When [[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]], [[Divebomb (Movie)|Divebomb]] and [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]] took the bait, the Twins joined Arcee, her sisters, and the human forces of NEST in tackling them. Fearswoop surrendered while the other Decepticons were killed. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 1|Rising Storm #1}}

After [[Sam Witwicky]] contacted NEST as [[Philadelphia]] was beign attacked by Decepticons, the Twins joined Prime and the other Autobots in helping the boy. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} Skids and Mudflap survived the battle when the [[Driller]] took [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] away. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 4|Rising Storm #4}}

[[File:DOTM3 mudflap dies.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Okay, they're ''dead'', alright? We're not going to be seeing them again.]]

Mudflap and Skids were present at NEST's Washington base during Optimus Prime's conversation with [[Charlotte Mearing]] about the moon landings.

Later, the Twins were among the Autobots charged with escorting [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] to [[NEST]] headquarters for safety when the ancient Autobot revealed himself to be a traitor by killing Ironhide. Skids was next to die, intercepting a shot meant for Bumblebee, sending Mudflap into a rage. He lunged at the turncoat Autobot, seeking revenge for his brother's death, but even his righteous anger could not make him a match for Sentinel, and he too met his ends moments later. Sentinel eulogized him with some degree of respect, remarking that he at least died a death worthy of an Autobot. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|Dark of the Moon}} {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation|Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation}}

{{note|Mudflap's interactions with Sentinel Prime are also partially documented in "[[Dark of the Moon: Action Pop-ups!]]"}}

===''Mini Mayhem!''===
Mudflap and Skids wanted to be characters in a strip of ''Mini Mayhem'', but wound up being late to the punch, and had to settle for a one-panel cameo. {{storylink|Mini Mayhem!}}
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===''Hunt for the Decepticons'' storybooks===
[[File:AutobotsthankSam-SatelliteMeltdown.jpeg|thumb|left]]
Skids and Mudflap had been tasked with looking over Sam while Bumblebee was away on a mission. The twins reported to Optimus that they suspected a [[new lab assistant]] working at the science lab at Sam's university to be a Decepticon spy. They turned out to be correct. Even after Megatron's latest plot had been foiled, and the Twins requested some time off from "spying" on Sam, Optimus informed them that their battle against the Decepticons was far from over. {{storylink|Prime Target (book)|Prime Target}}

Upon learning that [[Buzzsaw (ROTF)|Buzzsaw]] and [[Ratbat (ROTF)|Ratbat]] were causing trouble, Optimus ordered Mudflap and the rest of the Autobots to roll out to face the Decepticons. Thanks to Soundwave's tampering with their communications, however, the Autobots arrived at an abandonned warehouse instead of where the trouble was taking place. Thankfully, Sam and Bumblebee met with the Autobots, and led them to the correct location. The Decepticons were defeated and the Autobots cheered Sam for his help in the mission. {{storylink|Satellite Meltdown}}

===Toy bios===
Young and eager, Mudflap idolized Optimus Prime and the other great Autobot heroes. He and Skids went to Earth solely in the hope of joining up with their idols, and it was a dream come true for them! {{storylink|#Deluxe Class toys|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Mudflap}} In an early mission, however, they found themselves used as guinea pigs for experimental combination technology; trying to ''stay'' combined in their gestalt vehicle mode took up more of their focus than fighting Decepticons! {{storylink|#Icecreamtruck|Autobot Skids and Mudflap (Deluxe Combiner)}}

Skids believes himself to be the "smart one" of the twins, mostly because he is slightly less hyperactive than Mudflap. {{storylink|Skids (ROTF)#Deluxe Class toys|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Autobot Skids}} However, he must have impressed the Autobots as later, he was assigned to help Sideswipe take down an empowered [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]]! {{storylink|The Fury of Fearswoop}} Normally, his role was to create diversions. {{storylink|Skids (ROTF)#Robot Replicas|Robot Replicas Skids}}

During Sideways's sojourn into the Autobot camp, Skids and Mudflap became suspicious and reverted to their old ice cream truck form to keep track of him. Having discovered Sideways's treachery, they planned to prove their worth by defeating him on their own! {{storylink|#SpyBattle|High-Speed Spy Battle}}

Mudflap eventually started hanging out with [[Seymour Simmons]], because his bravery that seemed stupid struck a chord with the 'bot! {{storylink|#Human Alliance|''Human Alliance'' Mudflap / Chromia / Seymour Simmons}}

While his daredevil stunts have appeared brainless, the energetic Mudflap remained a true Autobot by being courageous, loyal to the end, and ready to take on the baddest Decepticons yet. {{storylink|#Cyberverse|Cyberverse Mudflap}} While he has quickly become a veteran Autobot soldier, there are days he cannot believe he is battling Decepticons shoulder-to-shoulder with Prime. Even though his enemies have to wait years before they can fear him, Mudflap continues to show the courage and enthusiasm of a distinguished Autobot. {{storylink|#Deluxe Class toys 2|''Dark of the Moon'' Deluxe Mudflap}}

===''Kre-O'' online manga===
[[File:KreO-webcomic-6-Mudflap.jpg|75px|thumb]]
Mudflap celebrated as the giant [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] was tickled to defeat. {{Storylink|A New Menace! The Giant Soldier Devastator Appears!}}

===''Play-Doh Videos''===
[[Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)|Optimus Prime]] got into a fight with [[Grimlock (Cyberverse)|Grimlock]] but they were eventually interrupted by the Red [[Play-Doh]], who made them clean an ice cream truck. After they completed their task, the ice cream truck transformed into Mudflap and scared away the Red Play-Doh.<ref>[https://youtu.be/vnLPRYTSZ9k Trouble with the Transformers | Kids Animation ⭐️ Play-Doh Videos]</ref>

==Commercial appearances==
* Mudflap and Skids were present outside a [[Burger King]], and watched patiently alongside a group of [[human]] children who were waiting for a familiar [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Chevy Camaro]] to transform. Much to their chagrin, however, the car was revealed to be just "some dude's car" and not Bumblebee himself. {{storylink|Commercial/Revenge of the Fallen#Burger King|Transform Your Way television commercials}}

==Games==
===''Cyberverse Battle Builder''===
Mudflap joined the rest of the Autobots in combating the Decepticons on battlefields on Earth, the Earth's Moon and on Cybertron. Sometimes there were many of him! {{storylink|Cyberverse Battle Builder}}

==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====Legends Class toys====
[[File:TF-ROTF-Legends-Class-Mudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|E.T.'s healing touch is bigger and better than ever.]]
*'''Mudflap''' (Legends Class, [[2009]])
{{toydesigner|[[Alex Androski]] (deco artist)}}

: [[Legends Class (2005)|Legends Class]] Mudflap is a simple, affordable small-scale toy. Amusingly, just like his brother Skids, the [[kibble]] on his arm actually works as his big deformed hand, only grossly oversized.

: As with all [[wave]] 3 Legends figures, his on-packaging [[stock photography|stock photo]] shows a mistransformed robot mode, with his abdomen not being extended. Furthermore, the second set of stock photos (which depict a [[:File:ROTF LegendsMudflap Lawson.jpg|pre-production sample]]) shows him lacking several red [[paint operation]]s covering areas of gray plastic in vehicle mode as compared to the final toy.

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*'''Autobot Set''' (Legends Class multi-pack, 2009)

: Available exclusively at the Lawson's convenience store in Japan (and the only way to obtain this figure via TakaraTomy), the Japanese edition of Legends Class Mudflap, named EZ Collection Mudflap, is identical to the Hasbro release. The Deluxe Class Preview Bumblebee it comes with is also unchanged from the regular release. Preorders opened on the [[May 1|1st of May]] and closed on [[June 30]]th, and the figure itself shipped on the [[October 16|16th of October]]. Although initial publicity photographs indicated that the toy was altered slightly from the US deco (see right), these photographs have proven to be inaccurate, as owners of this toy have reported no discernable differences from the standard US edition.[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/281376-rotf-takara-v-hasbro-comparisons.html]

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/LegMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Legends Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy MudflapSS.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Hey, I stepped in mud. Buy me again!]]
*'''Straightaway Shootout''' (Legends Class multi-pack, 2009)

:Legends Mudflap was also available in the [[Target]]-[[exclusive]] "[[Straightaway Shootout]]" 5-pack together with [[Ironhide (Movie)#Straightaway|Ironhide]], [[Swerve (Movie)#Straightaway|Swerve]], [[Runamuck (ROTF)|Runamuck]] and [[Sparkcrusher]]. Other than the sand-spray paint operations across his feet, below his front bumper and behind his front and rear fenders, and a slightly glossier finish, he is identical to his standard release.

:In [[Canada]], the set was released as a Zellers exclusive.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/TargetLegMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on "Straightaway Shootout" Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy MudflapFoF.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Fearswoop doesn't even ''have'' claws, so how'd he get those scratches, eh?]]
*'''The Fury of Fearswoop''' (Multi-pack, 2009)

:A "battle damaged" deco version of Legends Mudflap was available in the [[Walmart]]-exclusive "[[The Fury of Fearswoop]]" 3-pack together with a similarly "battle damaged" version of Legends [[Sideswipe (Movie)#Fearswoop|Sideswipe]], and Deluxe Class [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]]. That the set uses a pair of Legends Class cars and a Deluxe Class jet means the toys are in a roughly-correct [[scale]] to each other... which is borked by the story, in which Fearswoop is supposedly much huger than normal thanks to some unnamed mystic artifact.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/WMLegMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on "Fury of Fearswoop" Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:TargetLegendsRallyMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|How many damn copies of the Legends Mudflap mold do we '''need'''?]]
*'''Rally Mudflap and Offroad Skids''' (Legends Class multi-pack, 2010)

:This redeco of Legends Mudflap features a black hood and legs, along with dirt on his sides. He was packaged with a redecoed Skids as a [[Target]] exclusive two-pack, and was part of the "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" [[subline imprint]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/LegRallyMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Rally Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:ROTF-Mudflap.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Despite appearances, he is not a basset hound.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Mudflap''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''RA-15'''
:*''Accessories'': Smoke-shaped missile
{{toydesigner|[[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}

:Part of the third wave of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class figures, Mudflap transforms into a rust-orange Chevy Trax. He transforms similarly to (but not exactly like) the Deluxe toy of his twin brother, Skids. He also has similar gimmickry; for example, his [[Mech Alive]] gimmick is also activated by pushing in the grill on his chest. This causes some panels in his chest to sway and his head to, uh, headbang. Additional Mech Alive action is engineered into his larger left arm. When his fist folds in towards his wrist, panels on the outside of his forearm spread and reveal a raising, spring-loaded missile launcher. In vehicle mode, this missile is stored through a cross-shaped hole on the rear bumper. On a sadder note, the clip which holds his chest to his back has a lot of trouble actually connecting, so you're going to be stuck with just carefully posing him so that he doesn't come undone. In addition, the wheels can be locked behind his extended kneepads, which shortens and squattens his legs to create a more screen-accurate model.

:Mudflap initially came with a license plate that referenced his car model, "Trax."<ref name="traxplate">[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/revenge-of-the-fallen/mudflap/1817/1/21/ ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class Mudflap with "TRAX" license plate.]</ref> A [[variant|running change variant]] later enlarged the license plate and changed it to "Mudflap".<ref name="mudflapplate">[http://desmondyoongcollection.blogspot.com/2009/07/hasbro-mudflap-rotf.html ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class Mudflap with "MUDFLAP" license plate.]</ref> The Japanese release only featured the later "Mudflap" version, skipping the earlier "Trax" version entirely. Both plates were apparently used for the movie (see notes below).

: His feet are [[misassembly|misassembled]] in the package. Swap them! The bigger, separated toe should be on the outside.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Mudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-Skids-and-Mudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|He was always the horse's rear end in school plays.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Autobot Skids And Mudflap''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''RA-20'''
{{toydesigner|[[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}

:This two-pack of the twin Autobot brothers can combine into a single, old-fashioned ice cream truck. The vehicle splits in half right down the middle of its chassis (similar to how it does in the film) to create the two small robot forms. Other than the transformation, the toy features no [[gimmick]]s.

:Mudflap's heels are too thick for his feet to fold up properly in vehicle mode, though this can be fixed by trimming them. Mudflap also has a springloaded neck socket...but the reason for it is not all that clear.(the instructions do document it, but the head is not even locked in packed on the card) Also, this toy may be the first Transformer to feature the typeface Comic Sans, which is used to write "MADE FRESH FOR YOU" across both front wheel hubs. But that's on Skids's half, so Mudflap is partly absolved here.

:The ice cream truck features unpainted rust detailing.

:Amusingly, the ice cream truck accommodates [[Human Alliance]] human figures ''really'' well.

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[[File:ROTFDesertVersionSkidsAndMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Muddy Mudflap.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Desert Version Mudflap''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Projectile

:This version of Mudflap has a sandblasted deco to closer match his onscreen appearance during the scenes in Egypt. It is only available in Japan with purchase of the Revenge of the Fallen DVD.

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[[File:ROTF Deluxe Tuner Mudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Pimp my Derogatory Stereotype.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Tuner Mudflap''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Projectile

:A redeco of original Deluxe Class Mudflap, his doors are painted with "tuner" racing stripes and the plastic is a different shade of orange. The windows are now translucent blue. His feet are now properly assembled.

:Like his [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|many]] [[Mudflap (Movie)|predecessors]], he is a notorious [[shelfwarmer]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TunerMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Tuner Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy Skids Mudflap ShanghaiShowdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|It says "Eye Screem" on my truck, not "Ice Cream"! Get it?]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Shanghai Showdown''' (Multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Sticker sheet

: This version of the ice cream truck combo-toy of twins features painted rust deco (curiously ''not'' on the actual molded rust-texture bits), altered tampographs (including a "Caution Children" sign up top), and a new optional sticker sheet full of ice-creamy designs to adorn the truck (or whatever you like) with.

: They were only available in a [[Toys"R"Us]]-excusive two-pack come with a white-redecoed version of [[Demolishor (ROTF)#TRUset|Demolishor]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TRUSkids/skids.htm More information on Shanghai Showdown Skids at TFU.info]''
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====''Human Alliance''====
[[File:Humanalliancemudflaptoy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|At the auditions for "cannon fodder gunmen" on ''Gurren Lagann.'']]
*'''Mudflap / [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] / [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]]''' (Human Alliance, 2010)
**''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''RA-31'''

: A larger-scale figure, [[Human Alliance]] Mudflap has a very similar transformation to his twin. As usual, Simmons (or any other Human alliance driver figure) can be seated in Mudflap in his vehicle mode, with Mudflap's (still usable) seats ending up on his wrists/arms in robot mode. Simmons can also stand on Mudflap's palms in this mode. Mudflap comes with a transforming figure of [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] as well, which Simmons can ride in her motorbike mode.

: He shares two features with his twin, having a pop-up mini-gun behind his head which a back-mounted Simmons can man, and having a similar action feature for his head: pressing down on an orange piece on his head opens and closes his mouth, simulating a talking motion.

: He also has two unique features: the right seat has a twin-barreled gun molded into the base, and the left seat has a pop-up control panel for Simmons to operate, presumably to control the small [[Retractable string gimmick|grappling hook]] set above Mudflap's left hand, which a small winch can reel out and pull in.

: Unlike most transforming Mudflap figures, he is a more screen-accurate shade of orange red, rather than just a rusty color. Also unlike the other Mudflap figures is the fact that this figure was stocked in much lower numbers, meaning he didn't end up [[Shelfwarmer|shelfwarming]] like the others and ironically ended up being quite rare.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/HAMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Human Alliance Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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====''Fast Action Battlers''====
[[File:ROTF FAB GrappleGripMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|His special finger: There's no other like it.]]
*'''Grapple Grip Mudflap''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)

:''[[Fast Action Battlers]]'' Mudflap has a simplified transformation for younger buyers. His left hand's middle finger can be extended (yes, ha ha) on a rope to function as a grappling hook.

:The toy's name, "Grapple Grip Mudflap", is misspelled as "Grapp'''el''' Grip Mudflap" in various official instances, such as Hasbro's public website<ref name="fabhasbro">Hasbro website entry for FAB "Grappel Grip" Mudflap, [http://web.archive.org/web/20090612230515/http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/shop/details.cfm?guid=B237456C-7A23-1014-B596-FBA5EE4D560D&product_id=24286&src=endeca archived version]</ref> [[:File:GrappelGripMudflapEuro.jpg‎|and on]] the toy's [[multilingual packaging|European packaging]]. Presumably this typo didn't get caught by [[quality control]] until very late, so the North American packaging saw the error rectified in time, whereas the entire European production run had already been underway. Then again, [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'']] "[[Grapple (G1)|Solar Storm Grapp''el'']]" raises the question ''which'' version is officially to be considered the "incorrect" one, and whether the "Grappel" (mis)spelling is in fact intentionally used for [[trademark]] reasons...

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[[File:ROTF-toy FAB RallyMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Nobody will know who I am now!]]
*'''Rally Mudflap & Offroad Skids''' (Fast Action Battler two-pack, 2009)

:Rally Mudflap is a [[redeco]] of Grapple Grip Mudflap, decorating him with a gray racing stripe on his roof and his name on his windshield.

:This figure was only available in a two-pack alongside [[Skids (ROTF)#FAB2Pack|Offroad Skids]]. So far, this two-pack has been confirmed to have been released in Hong Kong, the Philippines, and Australia. Despite misconceptions based on early solicitations, it appears these figures were never intended to be released individually.
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====''Gravity Bots''====
[[File:Mudflap Gravity Bot.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|Believe it or not, his head looked like that before he entered the car compacter.]]
*'''Mudflap''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)
**''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''GB-05'''

: As a [[Gravity Bot]], Mudflap is a very boxy toy featuring no [[articulation]] whatsoever, relying solely on an [[autotransformation]] gimmick. When Mudflap is laid on his back in robot mode, gravity makes him transform into a somewhat [[super deformed]] car, and the process is reversed when the car is stood back up.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/GBMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Gravity Bots Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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===''Transformers'' (2010)===
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[[File:TF2010 BattleOps Bumblebee Costco.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|''Obviously'' included to act as [[Toy scalping|scalper]] repellant.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Battle Ops Bumblebee''' (Multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>

: An unchanged Legends Class Mudflap figure and a "Premium" vacuum-metalized gold redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends Class [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#BattleOpsCostco|Bumblebee]] were included as "Great Value!" toys, coming with a [[Costco]]-[[exclusive]] gold metallic redeco of the massive [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Battle Ops|Battle Ops Bumblebee]].

: Canada received both English and French versions of this release; weirdly, the French release was available in places outside Quebec such as Vancouver and even Alberta.

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[[File:TF2010 Starscream'sAssault toys.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Also called 'hit and run Mudflap']]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Starscream's Assault''' (Multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Missile

: This [[Walmart]]-exclusive two-pack contains desert-themed redecoes of [[#Deluxe Class toys|Deluxe Class Mudflap]] and Voyager Class [[Starscream (Movie)/toys#StarscreamsAssault|Starscream]]. Mudflap is mostly tan plastic with various red paint splotches on his vehicle mode, to represent him being absolutely caked with sand from the desert.

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[[File:TargetHighSpeedSpyBattle.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|They ate themselves out of their own profits!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''High-Speed Spy Battle''' (Multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>

: This [[Target]]-exclusive two pack (or three pack, depending on [[Rack'n'Ruin (G1)|how you count]]) features a redecoed Sideways and the ice-cream truck mode of Mudflap and Skids, which replaces most of the robot mode white plastic on the originals with a rusty brown, adds even more rusty paint applications than the earlier "Shanghai Showdown" version and omits the comic-sans "Made fresh for you" on the front wheel wells of the truck.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TargetMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on High-Speed Spy Battle Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:EZDeliveryMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Basically, everyone would be happier if this was actually [[Pinkie Pie]].]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Delivery Mudflap''' (EZ Collection, [[2010]])}}</ul>
:*''Release date'': [[October 23]], 2010

: Released in "Vol.5" of TakaraTomy's ''[[EZ Collection]]'' (not the fifth wave of product, the fifth iteration of the cross-franchise line), sold under the ''Autobot Alliance'' banner, "Delivery Mudflap" is a redeco of Legends Class Mudflap in pink and white, referencing his and Skids's ice cream truck form.
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===''Dark of the Moon''===
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[[File:DOTM Cyberverse Mudflap toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Mudflap''' (Cyberverse Legion, [[2011]])}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''1'''
:*''Number'': '''010'''
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''CV25'''
{{toydesigner|[[Joe Kyde]] (Hasbro)}}

: Released in the second wave of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]] Legion-Class toys, Mudflap transforms into a Chevrolet Spark production vehicle, rather than his Trax mode from ''Revenge of the Fallen''. His smaller right fist has a hole to accommodate 3 mm post weapons.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/LegMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Cyberverse Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:DOTM MechTechDeluxe Mudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|No, this image hasn't actually been squashed.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Mudflap''' (MechTech Deluxe Class, 2011)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''DA19'''
:*''Accessories:'': MechTech Blaster/Cybertronian Battle [[Axe (weapon)|Axe]]
{{toydesigner|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

: Part of the third wave of ''Dark of the Moon'' [[MechTech]] Deluxe Class toys, Mudflap transforms from a black Chevrolet Spark with wide orange stripes into a stumpy robot with big feet. He features six MechTech ports in total, with two ports on the roof in vehicle mode, one for each of his hands, and one underneath each of his arms. He comes with a blaster that transforms into a "Cybertronian Battle Axe" when the scope is pulled, though the weapon cannot be locked in battle axe mode.

: Unfortunately, Mudflap suffers from a [[design flaw]]: the connection holding his shoulders and upper arms together is very tight, and trying to swing his upper arms out to the side will occasionally result in the arms popping out of their plastic swivels.

: His weapon was redecoed into the weapon of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 2|Deluxe Class Optimus Prime]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/Mudflap/mudflap.htm More information on ''Dark of the Moon'' Deluxe Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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==Merchandise==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====RPMs - ''Robot Powered Machines''====
[[File:ROTF-toy RPM Mudflap.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|The "versus" on the package must refer to their infamous Egypt showdown.]]
*'''Mudflap vs Autobot Skids''' (R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle, 2009)
**''Number:'' '''04 of 08'''
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series'''

: Number four in a series of eight [[Robot Powered Machines]] Mini-Vehicle versus packs, Mudflap is packaged with his twin Skids. It's a non-transformable [[Hot Wheels (franchise)|Hot Wheels]]-like car, with his robot mode sculpted and painted onto his car-mode underside.

: So yeah, the Mini-Vehicle pack is marked as a "vs" set instead of "&" despite consisting of two Autobot twin brothers. Maybe it was a reference to their occasional feud?

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RPMMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on RPMs Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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===''Robot Heroes''===
[[File:RobotHeroes MudflapRampage.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Looks like [[Jolt (ROTF)|the hybrid]] found himself a new friend... a total mudflap!]]
*'''Mudflap & Rampage''' (Two-pack, 2009)
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' Mudflap is a [[super deformed]] figure with limited articulation in his neck, shoulders and, unusually for the line, his waist. He came in a two-pack with [[Rampage (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Rampage]].

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[[File:rotf desertdevastation rh.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Hey guys, wait for me!]]
*'''Desert Devastation''' (Multi-pack, 2009)
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:Both Mudflap and [[Skids (ROTF)#RHDevastation|Skids]] are sculpted in their individual vehicle modes for this box-set that also includes [[Devastator (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Devastator]] and [[William Lennox#Robot Heroes|Captain William Lennox]].

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[[File:Robotheroestwinswidewaysprimedemolishorsideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|That's right. Enjoy your ''Robot Heroes'' ice cream truck.]]
*'''Shanghai Shootout''' (Multi-pack, 2009)
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:"Shanghai Shootout" replicates the opening action scene from ''Revenge of the Fallen'', featuring figurines of [[Skids (ROTF)#RHShanghai|Skids]] & Mudflap in ice cream truck mode, [[Sideways (ROTF)#RHShanghai|Sideways]] in vehicle mode, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/merchandise#RHShanghai|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Demolishor]], and [[Sideswipe (Movie)/toys#RHShanghai|Sideswipe]] in vehicle mode.
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==Bigger Toys==
[[File:ChevySparkTransformersEdition.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|I guess Skids isn't the only Spark around!]]
*'''Chevrolet Spark Transformers Edition''' (2011)

:Produced in a limited run of 1000 units for the South Korean market, the [[General Motors|Chevrolet]] Spark ''Transformers'' Edition features a black paint scheme with orange racing stripes based upon Mudflap's prop (that was cut) from ''Dark of the Moon'', an aero kit with side skirts, 15-inch glossy black wheels, as well as various Autobot and Transformers sigils and branding.

:Pricing in South Korea was at 11,823.00 won for a manual transmission or 13,326.00 for an automatic.
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==Notes==
[[File:ROTF Skids Mudflap ice cream truck evolution.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|right|What, no milk shakes? Bummer.]]
*The entire shell of the ice cream truck prop was pretty much custom-built from scratch,<ref name="icecream">[https://www.flickr.com/photos/69016045@N00/albums/72157642197397134 Flickr photo album] featuring several photos of the creation process of the ice cream truck prop.</ref> though it appears to be based on a 1937 Dodge D5 truck. [[Ben Procter]] apparently lifted the color scheme and deco for his early concept design for the ice cream truck<ref name="procterrotf">[http://www.benprocter.com/overview/robots-characters-props-vehicles-graphics/8129296 Ben Procter's ROTF concept art at his own website.]</ref> ''directly'' off a photo of an [[Australia]]n ice cream truck that had been added to the Wikipedia article for "ice cream van" in February 2006,<ref name="wikipediaice">{{w|File:Ice Cream Truck Sydney Australia - crop.png|Photo of an Australian ice cream truck at Wikipedia, added in February 2006.}}</ref> down to identical placement and design of the fonts and graphics. The details were later slightly tweaked for the final design that can be seen in the movie... but only very slightly so. While the white and pink color scheme is used by ice cream trucks all over the world, it's a particularly common color combination in Australia.
*One of the decals on the ice cream truck's side that was created specifically for the movie reads "[[File:Symbol decept reg.png|15px]] suck my popsicle!" Classy. Too bad the toy ''does not have'' this decal. (Because, you know, for kids...)
[[File:ROTFSmartCarTwinConcept.jpg|thumb|upright=1.0|Yeah, that's not phallic at all.]]
*In the brief scenes that the twins appear in robot mode while still in their ice cream truck-[[kibble]]d robot forms, both have four wheels present due to the redressing of their individual car-based robot CGI models. The wheels are considerably wider than the ones present on the ice cream truck too.
**Also, in the scanning scene, the pair both curl up into a ball and turn into their new vehicle forms in a burst of light, just as Skids did in his transformation mere seconds ago. This is likely due to the pair having very little screentime in those forms meaning proper transformations weren't animated.
*The Twins' final alternate modes in the film, the Chevrolet Beat (Skids) and Chevrolet Trax (Mudflap), were designed by General Motors as small car concept vehicles. At one point in the film's pre-production, another small car, the [[Mercedes-Benz]] {{w|Smart (automobile)|Smart}}, was evidently considered as an option for a film character; concept art of a "third twin" based on it appears in various sections of the ''Revenge'' DVD special features, always in close proximity to concept art of Skids and Mudflap. Whether it was meant to be a third character related to Skids and Mudflap or if it was supposed to be used in place of one of them is unknown. What '''is''' known is that [[Hasbro]] has had great difficultly in the past trying to get likeness licenses from German automakers, which is probably why the vehicle/character was dropped.
*Oddly enough, even though Mudflap's Chevy Trax [[alternate mode]] features big blue "eyes" on his chest and the truck seems to have a similar "face" on its grill that does not appear on his brother (and fellow [[combiner]]) Skids's Chevy Beat form, he makes up the ''back'' of the ice cream truck. He does, however, still have "eyes" on his chest in his ice cream truck form which are created from the rear taillights of the vehicle. This is evidenced in one scene from the movie where they are lit up in red.
*In their combined ice cream truck mode, the Twins sport the [[license plate]] "KDM 814". A minor variant of this, "KDM 0814" with an extra "0", was later used for the life-sized Bumblebee prop on various displays from 2009 upuntil at least 2011. For the individual cars, two different sets of license plates were apparently used, either "Trax" and "Beat" referencing their car models or "Mudflap" and "Skids". Most likely, the ''intent'' was for the cars the two scan as their new alternate modes to feature the license plates with the cars' names, and for Skids and Mudflap themselves to have their names on their license plates in alternate mode... but then the production crew screwed up, resulting in various oddities. Most notably, in the scene where the Twins scan the Chevrolet Trax and Beat cars, those real cars already feature individualized license plates sporting their robot names, making their argument about who gets to choose which car all the more absurd. Throughout the rest of the movie, the license plates featuring their robot names are featured more prominently, although the "BEAT" plate for Skids can be seen briefly during the New York City scene (it's ''possible'' the "TRAX" plate for Mudflap was used for the same scene, but the car's plate is never seen on screen in that particular scene). All four plates were auctioned off in October 2009.<ref name="licenseauct">[http://www.icollector.com/Autobots-Skids-and-Mudfap-s-license-plates-from-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen_i8633012 Mudflap and Skids license plates for auction] at icollector.com</ref> The auction claims that the plates referring to their car models were used in vehicle mode, while those identifying the two Autobots by name were used in robot mode... which is ''directly'' refuted by screencaps from the movie included with the auction, which show the robot name plates on the cars in vehicle mode.
*Amusingly, [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro's Battle Bio] for Mudflap lists his arch-enemy as... [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]]. The Twins' RPMs two-pack is also called "Skids vs Mudflap".
*Despite promotional pictures and most of the merchandise made for Mudflap, in the film he is actually closer to red than orange. The RPM and Human Alliance figures are close to the actual character's colors in the film.
*Much like [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|the previous]] [[Mudflap (Movie)|two Mudflaps]], toys of this character tend to be [[shelfwarmer]]s. Maybe the ''name'' is cursed.
* The Twins were originally supposed to return for ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''. Even though [[General Motors]] provided two Chevrolet Sparks to serve as their alternate modes<ref name="chevyspark">[http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html Left Lane News article on two Chevrolet Sparks spotted on the DOTM set], May 2010.</ref> which were still spotted on the set as late as October 2010,<ref name="dcparking">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2010/10/transformers-3-dc-parking-lot-gallery.html "Transformers 3 DC Parking Lot Gallery"], Transformers Live Action Movie Blog, October 2010.</ref> the two were mostly edited out of the final movie (their vehicle modes can barely be glimpsed in a brief shot). Michael Bay even went so far as to offer a $25,000 reward for anyone who would see the Twins "perform" in the movie.<ref name="reward">[http://collider.com/transformers-3-twins-skids-mudflap-michael-bay/91104/ Collider.com article on Michael Bay's "reward" for spotting Skids and Mudflap "perform" in DOTM], May 2011.</ref> In the novelization and the comic adaptation, Skids and Mudflap still appear.
*Like all non-toy robot [[Kreon]]s in the ''Kre-O'' comics, Mudflap is made from existing ''Kre-O'' parts. He uses the [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Mirage]] helmet... and [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Jazz]] door-backpack.
*[[Harold Attinger|Attinger]]'s playing card of Mudflap was revealed in a prop auction for the ''Transformers'' film series held in 2019.<ref>''[https://profilesinhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/101TransformersSs.pdf Transformers: The Auction]'' by Profiles in History</ref><ref>"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFiH9rklAfo Items from last three 'Transformers' films go on auction]" by AP Archive</ref>
*Mudflap inspired the similarly orange-colored [[Screech (Generations)|Screech]].

===Controversy===
From watching ''Revenge of the Fallen'', it should be pretty obvious that the depiction of the Twins is rooted in racist stereotypes of African-Americans. Their illiteracy in [[Cyberglyphics]] is framed as "never learnin' to read", they speak in an overall stereotypical manner and are generally shown to not be very clever and quick to violence. Furthermore, compared to the other Autobots (and even fellow black-coded movie Autobot [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]]), their designs are visibly more hunched and ugly, with disfigured faces and a gold buck tooth on Skids. [[Tales of the Fallen issue 6|One later attempt]] to "smooth over" the problem would reveal that the pair act the way they do due to them being brain damaged, which only exacerbates the issue.

What's unclear is where exactly this imagery originated from: writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] claimed to have been following [[Michael Bay]]'s lead on the character, while Bay stated that it came from a piece of improv by actors [[Tom Kenny]] and [[Reno Wilson]]. Though Kenny, who is white, declined to comment when interviewed, Wilson, who is black, stated that they had been given direction to play the twins as "wannabe gangster types". This was supposed to play off the fact that, as alien robots who had learned human language and culture from the internet, they could not be black, with Wilson likening them to white rappers like {{w|Kevin Federline}}.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090626132026/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/transformers-jivetalking-_n_220005.html Transformers' Jive-Talking Robots Raise Race Issues - The Huffington Post]</ref> What this means for Jazz, as well as the [[Brains|other]] [[Mohawk|characters]] Wilson has played, is unknown. Whatever the intent, nobody involved seems to want to be tied to the issue. Orci and Kurtzman have attempted to distance themselves from the characters, stating that the stereotypes weren't in their script.<ref>[http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/orci-and-kurtzman-respond-to-claims-of-racism-in-transformers-2.php Robert Orci and Alex Kurtzman respond to claims of racism on ''Revenge of the Fallen'', Film School Rejects, June 24, 2009]</ref> For whatever reason, the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' novel, written by Alan Dean Foster and based on Orci and Kurtzman's screenplay, only depicts ''Skids'' as the film-accurate slang-talker, while Mudflap speaks like any other Autobot, albeit with a thick lisp. Meanwhile, [[Simon Furman]]'s ''Revenge of the Fallen'' material has ''both'' of the twins using less slang; presumably, Furman likely did not wish to try his hand at "street".

Whatever the intended direction for the characters, the "wannabe gangster" shtick doesn't come across in the finished project. [[Robert Epps]], the only prominent black human character in the film, is never shown having anything to say about them, for example. Ultimately, the Twins' portrayal was rightfully deemed pretty disgusting, and the resultant public backlash was likely what led the studio to quietly drop the pair partway into the filming of ''Dark of the Moon''. While their intended role in the film survived into that film's [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|novelization]] and [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation|comic book adaptation]], the Twins are thankfully not present in any future movie stories, and are indeed conspicuous by their absence in the cross-film ''[[Studio Series]]'' toyline.

Around fifteen years after the film's release, the twins were referenced in a not-so-subtle way on [[Amazon (website)|Prime Video]]'s ''{{w|The Boys (TV series)|The Boys}}'' television series.<ref>[https://www.vulture.com/article/the-boys-recap-season-4-episode-3-well-keep-the-red-flag-flying-here.html ''The Boys'' Recap: Popularity Is Power - Vulture]</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Mudflap''' (マッドフラップ ''Maddofurappu'')
*''Finnish:'' '''Kuraläppä'''
*''Hungarian:'' '''Sárfogó'''
*''Mandarin:'' '''Dǎngníbǎn''' (挡泥板, "Fender")

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Mudflap (ROTF)

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:''Mudflap is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (franchise)|Revenge of the Fallen]] portion of the [[movie continuity family]].''

[[File:ROTF Mudflap promo.jpg|thumb|upright=1.95|Despite appearances, his chest is not someone's face.]]

The goofy-looking '''Mudflap''' and his [[Twins (ROTF)|twin]] [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] are a result of a split spark, and share a close bond accordingly. Mudflap is hyperactive, noisy, argumentative, and eager... not that different from his brother. He's so desperate to impress that he comes off as having the robot equivalent of ADHD.<ref>[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|The Movie Universe]]</ref> When they're not trying to outdo each other in crazy, daredevil antics, the twins are usually bickering with each other over anything. Like Skids, he possesses hyper-reactive optical imaging scanners, making him able to process tactical information faster than any other Transformer (except Skids).<ref>[[Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Skids Profile, Transformers #1 (Titan, Vol.2)]]</ref> As irritated as Mudflap gets from Skids' vocal one-upmanship, he realizes that they actually work best as a team.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Mudflap Battle Bio]</ref>

Each twin can transform into smaller, separate vehicles or combine into a single, more durable alternate mode.<ref>[[Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Skids Profile, Transformers #1 (Titan, Vol.2)]]—greatly expanded from his ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|The Movie Universe]]'' bio</ref> Upon first arriving on [[Earth]], Mudflap and his brother took the form of a beat-up old ice cream truck, but he later [[Scanning|scanned]] a {{w|Chevrolet Trax (concept car)|Chevrolet Trax}} for a disguise, and, sometime after that, a {{w|Chevrolet_Spark#M300|Chevrolet Spark}}. That being said, it's unlikely the twins will keep an alt-mode for long.

{{bigquote|Nobody messes with the twins!|Mudflap while doing damage to [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]]|''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]''}}

==Fiction==
===Movies===
====''Revenge of the Fallen'' film====
{{voiceactor|[[Reno Wilson]] (English), [[Yōhei Tadano]] (Japanese)|[[Zhang Wei]] (Chinese), [[Gerald Schaale]] (German), [[Davide Lepore]] (Italian), [[Moisés Ivan Mora]] (Latin American-Spanish), [[Albert Trifol Segarra]] (Castilian Spanish), [[Marc Perez]] (European French), [[Frédéric Desager]] (Canadian French), [[Cláudio Galvan]] (Portuguese), [[Uğur Taşdemir]] (Turkish), [[Kim Ki-heung]] (Korean)}}

[[File:ROTF-icecreamtruck.jpg|thumb|left|ICE CREAM!... ICE CREAM!... I'm all out of ICE CREAM!...]]

The twins were first into action for NEST's mission to Shanghai, slowly trundling through the city streets in their ice-cream truck mode and taunting Decepticons in the area to show themselves. Two Decepticons soon did: [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]] and [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. At NEST's orders, the twins went after the smaller foe and, working with Arcee, managed to herd him into an alleyway. However, their slow, ungainly choice of alternate mode left them unable to keep up with Sideways. While Arcee leapt through a building to pursue the Decepticon, the twins tried to go around the building to catch him. However, the twins inadvertently split apart from one another when they rounded the corner too sharply, thus taking them out of the chase. Mudflap took the blame for the crash, but Skids still berated (and smacked) Mudflap for his failure.

[[File:ROTF Twins truck robot modes.jpg|thumb|Ben and Jerry?]]

Upon arrival to Diego Garcia and NEST headquarters, the twins were given new, individual alternate forms to make sure another incident like that never happened. Mudflap wanted the Chevy Beat as a vehicle form, but after a brief wrestling match with his brother, he was relegated to the form of the Chevrolet Trax.

Later, the twins, along with the other NEST-allied Autobots, were dispatched to look for [[Sam Witwicky]] when Decepticons were detected heading towards his college. After [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] was killed by [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], the twins helped the Autobot force fight off the Decepticon leader and [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], allowing Sam, [[Leo Spitz]], [[Mikaela Banes]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] to make good their escape. Skids and Mudflap met up with Bumblebee and the humans, and together they fled to a remote location. After the twins teased Leo for a while for his panic attack, Sam inquired whether one of them could interpret the Cybertronic symbols with which he had become obsessed. The twins claimed that they couldn't read the ancient Language of the Primes and weren't much into reading, anyway.

[[File:ROTF movie SkidsMudflap bigmother.jpg|thumb|left|And this is us when we traveled to...hey, Skids, where did we go again?]]

With the help of the Decepticon [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and former [[Sector Seven]] agent [[Seymour Simmons]], the group made their way to the Smithsonian, where the humans reactivated the venerable ex-Decepticon [[Jetfire (Movie)|Jetfire]]. He teleported them all to [[Egypt]] before telling them the tale of the original [[Dynasty of Primes|Primes]], the [[Star Harvester]], which had the potential to destroy all life on Earth, and finally, the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the key to activating the harvester and possibly the only thing that could bring Optimus Prime back to life. When the Matrix could not be found at the ruins of [[Petra]], Mudflap questioned why they were helping Sam, wondering what they had done for the Autobots. Skids pointed out that Sam ''had'' killed Megatron, but Mudflap said the point was moot since Megatron was now back. After calling each other "scared" and "ugly" the two began to fight with one another. After damaging the structure and nearly crushing the humans, Bumblebee picked the twins up, bashed them together, and threw them out the door. However, their bickering created a hole in the wall where the [[Tomb of the Primes]] lay, and with it, the Matrix.

Making their way back to the Pyramids where NEST waited with Optimus Prime's body, the group came under attack by Starscream. Mudflap, Skids, Leo and Simmons acted as a decoy to lure the Decepticons away from Sam and Mikaela. Unfortunately, they attracted the attention of the [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicons]], who [[combiner|combined]] into [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] and attacked by vacuuming up loose objects such as sand, cars, and Mudflap. Hanging on for dear life inside the monster's mouth, he tried to use his "{{w|Kung-Fu grip|kung-fu grip}}", but was sucked further inside, losing his shoulder guards in the process.

As Skids mourned the loss of his twin, Simmons realized that the safest place to be was directly under the giant. But he had survived being vacuumed up by Devastator, and to escape he had blasted a hole through its head. To buy the humans time to escape, Skids clambered up Devastator's [[Hightower (ROTF)|right forepaw]] to assist Mudflap. Skids threw a cable to Mudflap, who grabbed it and swung off Devastator's head onto his arm. However, once they had landed, Mudflap accidentally shot Skids in the face, knocking them off. At [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]'s command, Devastator continued onto the [[Great Pyramid of Giza]]. {{Storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}

{{note|Mudflap's involvement in the preceding events, or events mostly similar, are also chronicled in the novels ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (novel)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'', ''[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Junior Novel]]'', and ''[[The Last Prime]]''; the ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation|Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation]]'' and ''[[Movie Trilogy]]'' comics; and the storybooks "[[I Am Optimus Prime (ROTF)|I Am Optimus Prime]]", "[[Operation Autobot]]", "[[Rise of the Decepticons]]", "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Electronic Voice Changer|Revenge of the Fallen Electronic Voice Changer]]", and "[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Mix & Match|Revenge of the Fallen Mix & Match]]".}}

====''Dark of the Moon'' film====
[[File:DOTM Skids, Mudflap, Que and Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|right|Skids: "Bay fired us from ''DOTM'', what a pussy!" Mudflap: "At least he [[Animation error#Continuity error|forgot to remove us from this scene]], HA!"]]

Mudflap and Skids were at the end of an Autobot convoy as the team rolled into the hangar of NEST's [[Washington, D.C.]] base.

Mudflap was later parked next to Sideswipe when Sam arrived at NEST HQ for the first time. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

{{note|Mudflap and Skids were originally scripted to feature in ''Dark of the Moon'', but their appearances were cut from the finished film, save for this ''very'' brief shot. Mudflap and Skids were also involved in the Battle of Chicago, early footage in Chicago confirms this.[https://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2010/07/mpea-busway-set-pics-explosions-and.html]}}

====''Age of Extinction'' film====
Five years after the Battle of [[Chicago]], Mudflap was not listed as "deceased" by the CIA taskforce, [[Cemetery Wind]].<ref>[[:File:AOE-Kill-Cards-Set-3.jpg]]</ref> {{storylink|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction}}
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===Titan movie comics===
[[File:Titan2-1 Mudflap.jpg|left|thumb|Quick! We have to get to auditions before the cool characters!]]

Sometimes, he has a small forcefield in vehicle mode. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

Mudflap first met [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] when they were about to be thrown into a [[smelting pool]]. It was fun! {{Storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

Mudflap and Skids happily stayed on Cybertron, going through intensive training (which ''totally'' wasn't goofing off) and having extreme-sports contests. Neither wanted to leave their homeworld, and they were the only Transformers on it until [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] turned up with [[Purple generic drone|a Decepticon army]]. When they heard him mention a [[Star Harvester]], Mudflap said they should tell someone...but was a bit upset to find out the fastest way to do that would be to leave Cybertron and tell the Autobots in person.

The decision was made for them when the Decepticons attacked. Mudflap took some hits, causing Skids to obliterate the Decepticons responsible, but for the most part, their training paid off. However, he realised they were running out of places to run, so he followed his brother in leaving the plane, with only one course of action remaining: follow the message [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] had beamed into space and head for [[Earth]]. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.1|Training Day}}

The twins made it to Earth soon, crash-landing in Toronto, Canada. On the way in, Mudflap hit a {{w|CN Tower|big tower}}, and was a bit guilty since he knew how these primitive luddite humans still needed radio waves (the saps). They swam their way to Ball's Falls, where they picked up Earth alternate modes and, Mudflap taking charge, set out to try and find local Autobots and warn them about the Star Harvester.

Driving along the wrong side of the Interstate, the twins were attacked by the [[Seeker (ROTF)|Seeker]] [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]], who pursued them across open countryside, trying to kill them on Starscream's orders. Mudflap transformed and blinded the old Decepticon with a fistful of dirt, which bought the twins some time to find cover. However, the airborne enemy kept up with the twins, and Mudflap lost a chance at cover when he ran back to save his brother. Luckily they were saved by Bumblebee, who attacked and forced Ransack to retreat. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Dogfight!}}

[[File:Titan2-3 Mudflap face.jpg|right|thumb|Sorry, [[Jon Davis-Hunt|Jon]], at some point you have to draw their ugly mugs.]]

Now living at [[NEST]]'s Californian base with Bumblebee as their minder, Skids and Mudflap repeatedly asked to deliver their info to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]—and only Optimus, much to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]]'s annoyance. He was more annoyed when they ambushed him to get to Optimus...who, as it turns out, was away on a need-to-know mission anyway.

After this defeat, and with Ironhide having bluntly told them nobody believed them, they desperately asked to join in a NEST op in [[Las Vegas]]...getting turned down, because they were too crap to get involved. Mudflap almost called their superior a very rude word over this, and after the team had left, he decided they should go to Vegas ''anyway'' to show Ironhide just what they could do! What they could do, it turned out, was screw up a successful mission by freeing [[Grindor (ROTF)|a captured Decepticon]] by trying to "shoot him down". Mudflap was left mortified. Ironhide, recognising what they were trying to do, told him that maybe they could work on training the twins not to jump in without looking, and that the trick was to learn from mistakes. The twins claimed they'd try. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.3|Learning Curve}}

They soon wished they hadn't, as they were condemned to NEST's [[United Kingdom|Orkney Islands]] base for days of sim-com (simulated combat) training under [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]]. Mudflap agreed with Skids' theory that this was an excuse to keep them away from Optimus, and the whole situation got on his nerves. They both protested to Sideswipe that they could handle Decepticons. Him pointing out their failure with Grindor shut them up. However, the training was interrupted when [[Ravage (ROTF)|a huge metal cat monster]] broke into the base, KOed Sideswipe, and tried to eat the twins!

[[File:Titan4 Mudflapravage.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4| Nice kitty...nice kitty...]]

They transformed and fled, with all attempts at holding it off failing. Mudflap hit on a plan of trapping the creature in the sim-com room and letting the drones shoot it down. He pulled this off, using himself as bait; in the process, he received a communication from [[Soundwave (ROTF)|the monster's master]], who demanded to know what the twins knew about some lost and fallen guy. Mudflap briefly wondered who this dude was, then shrugged and just sprang the trap on Ravage.

With that done, the twins tried to fill in the revived Sideswipe... except the creature had gone, leaving their instructor with the view that ''they'd'' knocked him out in revenge for their training. Between that and Grindor, he thought they were up to something... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

[[File:Titan2-5 twinsHEstartedit.jpg|right|thumb|Even the ''characters'' [[Mudflap (ROTF)#Notes|shift the blame]] over who came up with their dialogue!]]

The twins were later taken to Diego Garcia, and ecstatic to learn Optimus was coming there! Okay, he's only dropping a prisoner off, he's not here to see them and knows nothing about their story, but they ignored all that and drove off when Sideswipe wasn't looking so they could greet the leader. Mudflap squeed over how Optimus would be so proud with ''his'' work! Skids picked up on that and accused his brother of trying to steal the glory, and soon the two of them were having a big fight and slagging match...

And so their first meeting with Optimus Prime was to be yelled at for conduct unbecoming of an Autobot warrior. (See the pic to the side to find out how ''that'' went.)

That was when [[Scorponok (Movie)|Scorponok]] made his attack, blasting at the distracted Prime and moving to free the prisoner [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. Mudflap swiftly grabbed a weapon to stop this escape, but Sideways snatched it from his hands and used it himself to cover his retreat. Sideswipe, watching from a distance, believed Mudflap had ''given'' over the weapon, and convinced Prime that the twins were traitors: they must have helped Scorponok get here and now assisted him in his mission, on top of freeing Grindor and attacking him! Mudflap and Skids protested they were being set up because they knew too much, but it fell on deaf ears as they were taken into custody... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}

[[File:Titan2-6 aimedatyourheart.jpg|left|thumb|Heart, head, near enough...]]

Following this, the decision was made to exile the twins into orbit. Mudflap and his brother moaned that they should've just ignored the Fallen, but help was at hand... from the Decepticons? Mudflap angrily told [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Decepticon agent Wheelie]] that they didn't ''want'' to be freed by ''him'', but the complaint fell on deaf ears: now the twins looked like even ''bigger'' traitors. The two went underground to clear their names, and hit on the foolproof plan of abducting [[Sam Witwicky]] from his house and pleading with him to tell their story to Optimus. All this did was cause Bumblebee to launch an attack to rescue Sam. Mudflap pleaded with the angry Bumblebee that they weren't traitors, that they had vital info...

...and then [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] gunned down the scout and offered the twins sanctuary in the Decepticons. Nowhere else to go, Mudflap took Soundwave's hand and said he'd never liked Earth anyway... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.6|Outlaw Blues}}

[[File:Titan deceptitwins.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.4|"No offence, Sideways, but you're a boring, stupid, unimportant waste of metal and your mum hates you."]]

Once in the Decepticons, he had fun dissing all the other members as being losers and getting on ''everyone's'' nerve, before Soundwave finally sent them on a mission to bring in a rogue member. Once on Earth again, he was genuinely surprised to find out Skids was only ''pretending'' to defect; his annoyed brother explained the plan was that, since Soundwave would send a minder to watch them, they could ambush their minder and have a prisoner to give to the Autobots.

The rogue member turned out to be Ransack, and Mudflap helped Skids lie to him that the Fallen had sent them. Talking instead of fighting? That annoyed ''both'' of their minders, and they came under attack by Grindor and Sideways! Mudflap was ordered after Sideways, and engaged him in a game of chicken; the Decepticon blinked first and crashed into a tree. He thought this was enough, but Skids was determined that they'd now take the fight to Soundwave himself! (Mudflap's considered response was "YOWZA!") {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

[[File:Titan2-8 twinsanywaytowelcome.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.95]]

Upon returning to the Phobos base, Mudflap was consulted about having a plan of attack. He decided why bother having plans ''now'', just attack! The twins stormed the base, and Mudflap was able to defeat Ravage by ducking the beast's attacks and planting an electrical bomb on him. However, this success was quickly undone and Mudflap found himself about to be killed by Starscream... but the battle gave Ransack an opening to shoot the Seeker in the back and escape, causing the other Decepticons to chase after him! The twins had ''no'' idea what ''that'' was all about... but this was just a short respite, as the twins discovered just what that army massing on Cybertron had been planning: to arrive at the Phobos base en route to Earth...

The twins stood ready to make their last stand, and Mudflap prepared to take down as many drones as possible... when Optimus arrived with the other Autobots! The twins had been tracked to Phobos and to their shock, the other Autobots had realised they weren't traitors and were even apologising! And with all the street cred of uncovering the Phobos base, the twins were welcomed to the Autobots' Earth division. Skids briefly wondered if they should mention "the ''Fa-''" again, but Mudflap told him they were ''never'' mentioning ''that'' bloody thing again. Whatever happened, [[#Revenge of the Fallen movie|would happen]]... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}
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===IDW movie comics===
[[File:Tales of the Fallen Issue 6 Twins.jpg|thumb|upright=0.85|Off to go hang out with [[Muffins]], I'm sure.]]
After hearing Optimus Prime's call into space for all Autobots, Skids and Mudflap were captured by the Decepticons [[Thundercracker (Movie)|Thundercracker]] and [[Flatline (ROTF)|Flatline]] just before reaching Earth. Seeking to perfect some new medical experiments, Flatline tried to forcibly reprogram the brothers' processors, but only succeeded in leaving them addled and confused. Another of Flatline's experiments, the tri-fold biker named [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], helped Skids and Mudflap escape. They picked up a ship and made their trek the rest of the way to Earth. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 6|Tales of the Fallen #6}}

[[File:Alliance04 icecreamtruck.jpg|left|thumb|upright=0.85|Mudflap is the one in back.]]
Skids and Mudflap followed Optimus Prime's message to [[Earth]] and arrived on the planet with [[Topspin (DOTM)|Topspin]], [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]], [[Roadbuster (DOTM)|Roadbuster]], [[Sideswipe (Movie)|Sideswipe]], [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]], [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] and [[Elita-One (Movie)|Elita-One]] on the [[Wreckers]] ship [[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]. The ship and the Wreckers stayed behind in [[NASA]], {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}} {{storylink|Dark of the Moon issue 3|Dark of the Moon #3}} The Twins both chose the [[combiner|combined]] form of an old, beat-up ice cream truck. The newly arrived Autobots joined the human-Transformer military alliance [[NEST]] and began training in earnest at [[Diego Garcia]], but soon had to be deployed to [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}

Skids and Mudflap were in [[Seattle]] with NEST tracking the Decepticon straggler, [[Alice (ROTF)|Alice]]. They helped guide her stolen RV right into Sideswipe's sights, and he then impaled the "girl" in her seat. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 1|Nefarious #1}}

Later, when [[Theodore Galloway]] and his unit were attacked by [[Ransack (ROTF)|Ransack]] en route to investigate the mysterious activities of the enigmatic [[Initiative]] at [[Hoover Dam]], the Autobots dispatched Skids and Mudflap to Galloway's aid. Together, they held Ransack off until a NEST strike team could arrive and finish him off. The Twins then accompanied Galloway and the soldiers to Hoover Dam, and while the Initiative forces had already cleared out, Skids and Mudflap realized what they had been after: residual energy from the [[AllSpark]] that had been kept there. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 4|Nefarious #4}} To uncover the Initiative's secret goals, the Autobots soon allied themselves with [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]], and followed his lead to the Initiative's base of operations in [[Crater Lake]], [[Oregon]]. Skids and Mudflap were deployed to attack the base from the east; when they were met with resistance in the form of the Initiative's troops, they took them out of the equation by disabling the advanced weaponry they were wielding with precision blasts. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 5|Nefarious #5}} He and Skids then worked as back-up for Bumblebee's team of cadets in the final battle at Crater Lake. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 6|Nefarious #6}}

When NEST discovered that Starscream was selling Transformer weaponry to humans, a sting operation was staged in which [[Theodore Galloway]] would pose as a buyer to lure the Decepticons in. When [[Skystalker (ROTF)|Skystalker]], [[Divebomb (Movie)|Divebomb]] and [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]] took the bait, the Twins joined Arcee, her sisters, and the human forces of NEST in tackling them. Fearswoop surrendered while the other Decepticons were killed. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 1|Rising Storm #1}}

After [[Sam Witwicky]] contacted NEST as [[Philadelphia]] was beign attacked by Decepticons, the Twins joined Prime and the other Autobots in helping the boy. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 2|Rising Storm #2}} {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 3|Rising Storm #3}} Skids and Mudflap survived the battle when the [[Driller]] took [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]] away. {{storylink|Rising Storm issue 4|Rising Storm #4}}

[[File:DOTM3 mudflap dies.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Okay, they're ''dead'', alright? We're not going to be seeing them again.]]

Mudflap and Skids were present at NEST's Washington base during Optimus Prime's conversation with [[Charlotte Mearing]] about the moon landings.

Later, the Twins were among the Autobots charged with escorting [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] to [[NEST]] headquarters for safety when the ancient Autobot revealed himself to be a traitor by killing Ironhide. Skids was next to die, intercepting a shot meant for Bumblebee, sending Mudflap into a rage. He lunged at the turncoat Autobot, seeking revenge for his brother's death, but even his righteous anger could not make him a match for Sentinel, and he too met his ends moments later. Sentinel eulogized him with some degree of respect, remarking that he at least died a death worthy of an Autobot. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|Dark of the Moon}} {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation|Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation}}

{{note|Mudflap's interactions with Sentinel Prime are also partially documented in "[[Dark of the Moon: Action Pop-ups!]]"}}

===''Mini Mayhem!''===
Mudflap and Skids wanted to be characters in a strip of ''Mini Mayhem'', but wound up being late to the punch, and had to settle for a one-panel cameo. {{storylink|Mini Mayhem!}}
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===''Hunt for the Decepticons'' storybooks===
[[File:AutobotsthankSam-SatelliteMeltdown.jpeg|thumb|left]]
Skids and Mudflap had been tasked with looking over Sam while Bumblebee was away on a mission. The twins reported to Optimus that they suspected a [[new lab assistant]] working at the science lab at Sam's university to be a Decepticon spy. They turned out to be correct. Even after Megatron's latest plot had been foiled, and the Twins requested some time off from "spying" on Sam, Optimus informed them that their battle against the Decepticons was far from over. {{storylink|Prime Target (book)|Prime Target}}

Upon learning that [[Buzzsaw (ROTF)|Buzzsaw]] and [[Ratbat (ROTF)|Ratbat]] were causing trouble, Optimus ordered Mudflap and the rest of the Autobots to roll out to face the Decepticons. Thanks to Soundwave's tampering with their communications, however, the Autobots arrived at an abandonned warehouse instead of where the trouble was taking place. Thankfully, Sam and Bumblebee met with the Autobots, and led them to the correct location. The Decepticons were defeated and the Autobots cheered Sam for his help in the mission. {{storylink|Satellite Meltdown}}

===Toy bios===
Young and eager, Mudflap idolized Optimus Prime and the other great Autobot heroes. He and Skids went to Earth solely in the hope of joining up with their idols, and it was a dream come true for them! {{storylink|#Deluxe Class toys|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Mudflap}} In an early mission, however, they found themselves used as guinea pigs for experimental combination technology; trying to ''stay'' combined in their gestalt vehicle mode took up more of their focus than fighting Decepticons! {{storylink|#Icecreamtruck|Autobot Skids and Mudflap (Deluxe Combiner)}}

Skids believes himself to be the "smart one" of the twins, mostly because he is slightly less hyperactive than Mudflap. {{storylink|Skids (ROTF)#Deluxe Class toys|''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Autobot Skids}} However, he must have impressed the Autobots as later, he was assigned to help Sideswipe take down an empowered [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]]! {{storylink|The Fury of Fearswoop}} Normally, his role was to create diversions. {{storylink|Skids (ROTF)#Robot Replicas|Robot Replicas Skids}}

During Sideways's sojourn into the Autobot camp, Skids and Mudflap became suspicious and reverted to their old ice cream truck form to keep track of him. Having discovered Sideways's treachery, they planned to prove their worth by defeating him on their own! {{storylink|#SpyBattle|High-Speed Spy Battle}}

Mudflap eventually started hanging out with [[Seymour Simmons]], because his bravery that seemed stupid struck a chord with the 'bot! {{storylink|#Human Alliance|''Human Alliance'' Mudflap / Chromia / Seymour Simmons}}

While his daredevil stunts have appeared brainless, the energetic Mudflap remained a true Autobot by being courageous, loyal to the end, and ready to take on the baddest Decepticons yet. {{storylink|#Cyberverse|Cyberverse Mudflap}} While he has quickly become a veteran Autobot soldier, there are days he cannot believe he is battling Decepticons shoulder-to-shoulder with Prime. Even though his enemies have to wait years before they can fear him, Mudflap continues to show the courage and enthusiasm of a distinguished Autobot. {{storylink|#Deluxe Class toys 2|''Dark of the Moon'' Deluxe Mudflap}}

===''Kre-O'' online manga===
[[File:KreO-webcomic-6-Mudflap.jpg|75px|thumb]]
Mudflap celebrated as the giant [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] was tickled to defeat. {{Storylink|A New Menace! The Giant Soldier Devastator Appears!}}

===''Play-Doh Videos''===
[[Optimus Prime (Cyberverse)|Optimus Prime]] got into a fight with [[Grimlock (Cyberverse)|Grimlock]] but they were eventually interrupted by the Red [[Play-Doh]], who made them clean an ice cream truck. After they completed their task, the ice cream truck transformed into Mudflap and scared away the Red Play-Doh.<ref>[https://youtu.be/vnLPRYTSZ9k Trouble with the Transformers | Kids Animation ⭐️ Play-Doh Videos]</ref>

==Commercial appearances==
* Mudflap and Skids were present outside a [[Burger King]], and watched patiently alongside a group of [[human]] children who were waiting for a familiar [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Chevy Camaro]] to transform. Much to their chagrin, however, the car was revealed to be just "some dude's car" and not Bumblebee himself. {{storylink|Commercial/Revenge of the Fallen#Burger King|Transform Your Way television commercials}}

==Games==
===''Cyberverse Battle Builder''===
Mudflap joined the rest of the Autobots in combating the Decepticons on battlefields on Earth, the Earth's Moon and on Cybertron. Sometimes there were many of him! {{storylink|Cyberverse Battle Builder}}

==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====Legends Class toys====
[[File:TF-ROTF-Legends-Class-Mudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|E.T.'s healing touch is bigger and better than ever.]]
*'''Mudflap''' (Legends Class, [[2009]])
{{toydesigner|[[Alex Androski]] (deco artist)}}

: [[Legends Class (2005)|Legends Class]] Mudflap is a simple, affordable small-scale toy. Amusingly, just like his brother Skids, the [[kibble]] on his arm actually works as his big deformed hand, only grossly oversized.

: As with all [[wave]] 3 Legends figures, his on-packaging [[stock photography|stock photo]] shows a mistransformed robot mode, with his abdomen not being extended. Furthermore, the second set of stock photos (which depict a [[:File:ROTF LegendsMudflap Lawson.jpg|pre-production sample]]) shows him lacking several red [[paint operation]]s covering areas of gray plastic in vehicle mode as compared to the final toy.

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*'''Autobot Set''' (Legends Class multi-pack, 2009)

: Available exclusively at the Lawson's convenience store in Japan (and the only way to obtain this figure via TakaraTomy), the Japanese edition of Legends Class Mudflap, named EZ Collection Mudflap, is identical to the Hasbro release. The Deluxe Class Preview Bumblebee it comes with is also unchanged from the regular release. Preorders opened on the [[May 1|1st of May]] and closed on [[June 30]]th, and the figure itself shipped on the [[October 16|16th of October]]. Although initial publicity photographs indicated that the toy was altered slightly from the US deco (see right), these photographs have proven to be inaccurate, as owners of this toy have reported no discernable differences from the standard US edition.[http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/281376-rotf-takara-v-hasbro-comparisons.html]

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/LegMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Legends Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy MudflapSS.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Hey, I stepped in mud. Buy me again!]]
*'''Straightaway Shootout''' (Legends Class multi-pack, 2009)

:Legends Mudflap was also available in the [[Target]]-[[exclusive]] "[[Straightaway Shootout]]" 5-pack together with [[Ironhide (Movie)#Straightaway|Ironhide]], [[Swerve (Movie)#Straightaway|Swerve]], [[Runamuck (ROTF)|Runamuck]] and [[Sparkcrusher]]. Other than the sand-spray paint operations across his feet, below his front bumper and behind his front and rear fenders, and a slightly glossier finish, he is identical to his standard release.

:In [[Canada]], the set was released as a Zellers exclusive.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/TargetLegMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on "Straightaway Shootout" Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy MudflapFoF.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Fearswoop doesn't even ''have'' claws, so how'd he get those scratches, eh?]]
*'''The Fury of Fearswoop''' (Multi-pack, 2009)

:A "battle damaged" deco version of Legends Mudflap was available in the [[Walmart]]-exclusive "[[The Fury of Fearswoop]]" 3-pack together with a similarly "battle damaged" version of Legends [[Sideswipe (Movie)#Fearswoop|Sideswipe]], and Deluxe Class [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]]. That the set uses a pair of Legends Class cars and a Deluxe Class jet means the toys are in a roughly-correct [[scale]] to each other... which is borked by the story, in which Fearswoop is supposedly much huger than normal thanks to some unnamed mystic artifact.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/WMLegMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on "Fury of Fearswoop" Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:TargetLegendsRallyMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|How many damn copies of the Legends Mudflap mold do we '''need'''?]]
*'''Rally Mudflap and Offroad Skids''' (Legends Class multi-pack, 2010)

:This redeco of Legends Mudflap features a black hood and legs, along with dirt on his sides. He was packaged with a redecoed Skids as a [[Target]] exclusive two-pack, and was part of the "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" [[subline imprint]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/LegRallyMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Rally Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:ROTF-Mudflap.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Despite appearances, he is not a basset hound.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Mudflap''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''RA-15'''
:*''Accessories'': Smoke-shaped missile
{{toydesigner|[[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}

:Part of the third wave of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class figures, Mudflap transforms into a rust-orange Chevy Trax. He transforms similarly to (but not exactly like) the Deluxe toy of his twin brother, Skids. He also has similar gimmickry; for example, his [[Mech Alive]] gimmick is also activated by pushing in the grill on his chest. This causes some panels in his chest to sway and his head to, uh, headbang. Additional Mech Alive action is engineered into his larger left arm. When his fist folds in towards his wrist, panels on the outside of his forearm spread and reveal a raising, spring-loaded missile launcher. In vehicle mode, this missile is stored through a cross-shaped hole on the rear bumper. On a sadder note, the clip which holds his chest to his back has a lot of trouble actually connecting, so you're going to be stuck with just carefully posing him so that he doesn't come undone. In addition, the wheels can be locked behind his extended kneepads, which shortens and squattens his legs to create a more screen-accurate model.

:Mudflap initially came with a license plate that referenced his car model, "Trax."<ref name="traxplate">[http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/revenge-of-the-fallen/mudflap/1817/1/21/ ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class Mudflap with "TRAX" license plate.]</ref> A [[variant|running change variant]] later enlarged the license plate and changed it to "Mudflap".<ref name="mudflapplate">[http://desmondyoongcollection.blogspot.com/2009/07/hasbro-mudflap-rotf.html ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe Class Mudflap with "MUDFLAP" license plate.]</ref> The Japanese release only featured the later "Mudflap" version, skipping the earlier "Trax" version entirely. Both plates were apparently used for the movie (see notes below).

: His feet are [[misassembly|misassembled]] in the package. Swap them! The bigger, separated toe should be on the outside.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Mudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-Skids-and-Mudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|He was always the horse's rear end in school plays.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Autobot Skids And Mudflap''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''RA-20'''
{{toydesigner|[[Hisashi Yuki]] (TakaraTomy)}}

:This two-pack of the twin Autobot brothers can combine into a single, old-fashioned ice cream truck. The vehicle splits in half right down the middle of its chassis (similar to how it does in the film) to create the two small robot forms. Other than the transformation, the toy features no [[gimmick]]s.

:Mudflap's heels are too thick for his feet to fold up properly in vehicle mode, though this can be fixed by trimming them. Mudflap also has a springloaded neck socket...but the reason for it is not all that clear.(the instructions do document it, but the head is not even locked in packed on the card) Also, this toy may be the first Transformer to feature the typeface Comic Sans, which is used to write "MADE FRESH FOR YOU" across both front wheel hubs. But that's on Skids's half, so Mudflap is partly absolved here.

:The ice cream truck features unpainted rust detailing.

:Amusingly, the ice cream truck accommodates [[Human Alliance]] human figures ''really'' well.

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[[File:ROTFDesertVersionSkidsAndMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Muddy Mudflap.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Desert Version Mudflap''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Projectile

:This version of Mudflap has a sandblasted deco to closer match his onscreen appearance during the scenes in Egypt. It is only available in Japan with purchase of the Revenge of the Fallen DVD.

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[[File:ROTF Deluxe Tuner Mudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Pimp my Derogatory Stereotype.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Tuner Mudflap''' (Deluxe Class, 2009)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Projectile

:A redeco of original Deluxe Class Mudflap, his doors are painted with "tuner" racing stripes and the plastic is a different shade of orange. The windows are now translucent blue. His feet are now properly assembled.

:Like his [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|many]] [[Mudflap (Movie)|predecessors]], he is a notorious [[shelfwarmer]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TunerMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Tuner Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy Skids Mudflap ShanghaiShowdown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|It says "Eye Screem" on my truck, not "Ice Cream"! Get it?]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Shanghai Showdown''' (Multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories'': Sticker sheet

: This version of the ice cream truck combo-toy of twins features painted rust deco (curiously ''not'' on the actual molded rust-texture bits), altered tampographs (including a "Caution Children" sign up top), and a new optional sticker sheet full of ice-creamy designs to adorn the truck (or whatever you like) with.

: They were only available in a [[Toys"R"Us]]-excusive two-pack come with a white-redecoed version of [[Demolishor (ROTF)#TRUset|Demolishor]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TRUSkids/skids.htm More information on Shanghai Showdown Skids at TFU.info]''
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====''Human Alliance''====
[[File:Humanalliancemudflaptoy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|At the auditions for "cannon fodder gunmen" on ''Gurren Lagann.'']]
*'''Mudflap / [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] / [[Seymour Simmons|Agent Simmons]]''' (Human Alliance, 2010)
**''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''RA-31'''

: A larger-scale figure, [[Human Alliance]] Mudflap has a very similar transformation to his twin. As usual, Simmons (or any other Human alliance driver figure) can be seated in Mudflap in his vehicle mode, with Mudflap's (still usable) seats ending up on his wrists/arms in robot mode. Simmons can also stand on Mudflap's palms in this mode. Mudflap comes with a transforming figure of [[Chromia (ROTF)|Chromia]] as well, which Simmons can ride in her motorbike mode.

: He shares two features with his twin, having a pop-up mini-gun behind his head which a back-mounted Simmons can man, and having a similar action feature for his head: pressing down on an orange piece on his head opens and closes his mouth, simulating a talking motion.

: He also has two unique features: the right seat has a twin-barreled gun molded into the base, and the left seat has a pop-up control panel for Simmons to operate, presumably to control the small [[Retractable string gimmick|grappling hook]] set above Mudflap's left hand, which a small winch can reel out and pull in.

: Unlike most transforming Mudflap figures, he is a more screen-accurate shade of orange red, rather than just a rusty color. Also unlike the other Mudflap figures is the fact that this figure was stocked in much lower numbers, meaning he didn't end up [[Shelfwarmer|shelfwarming]] like the others and ironically ended up being quite rare.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/HAMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Human Alliance Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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====''Fast Action Battlers''====
[[File:ROTF FAB GrappleGripMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|His special finger: There's no other like it.]]
*'''Grapple Grip Mudflap''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)

:''[[Fast Action Battlers]]'' Mudflap has a simplified transformation for younger buyers. His left hand's middle finger can be extended (yes, ha ha) on a rope to function as a grappling hook.

:The toy's name, "Grapple Grip Mudflap", is misspelled as "Grapp'''el''' Grip Mudflap" in various official instances, such as Hasbro's public website<ref name="fabhasbro">Hasbro website entry for FAB "Grappel Grip" Mudflap, [http://web.archive.org/web/20090612230515/http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/shop/details.cfm?guid=B237456C-7A23-1014-B596-FBA5EE4D560D&product_id=24286&src=endeca archived version]</ref> [[:File:GrappelGripMudflapEuro.jpg‎|and on]] the toy's [[multilingual packaging|European packaging]]. Presumably this typo didn't get caught by [[quality control]] until very late, so the North American packaging saw the error rectified in time, whereas the entire European production run had already been underway. Then again, [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'']] "[[Grapple (G1)|Solar Storm Grapp''el'']]" raises the question ''which'' version is officially to be considered the "incorrect" one, and whether the "Grappel" (mis)spelling is in fact intentionally used for [[trademark]] reasons...

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[[File:ROTF-toy FAB RallyMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Nobody will know who I am now!]]
*'''Rally Mudflap & Offroad Skids''' (Fast Action Battler two-pack, 2009)

:Rally Mudflap is a [[redeco]] of Grapple Grip Mudflap, decorating him with a gray racing stripe on his roof and his name on his windshield.

:This figure was only available in a two-pack alongside [[Skids (ROTF)#FAB2Pack|Offroad Skids]]. So far, this two-pack has been confirmed to have been released in Hong Kong, the Philippines, and Australia. Despite misconceptions based on early solicitations, it appears these figures were never intended to be released individually.
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====''Gravity Bots''====
[[File:Mudflap Gravity Bot.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|Believe it or not, his head looked like that before he entered the car compacter.]]
*'''Mudflap''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)
**''TakaraTomy ID number:'' '''GB-05'''

: As a [[Gravity Bot]], Mudflap is a very boxy toy featuring no [[articulation]] whatsoever, relying solely on an [[autotransformation]] gimmick. When Mudflap is laid on his back in robot mode, gravity makes him transform into a somewhat [[super deformed]] car, and the process is reversed when the car is stood back up.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/GBMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Gravity Bots Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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===''Transformers'' (2010)===
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[[File:TF2010 BattleOps Bumblebee Costco.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|''Obviously'' included to act as [[Toy scalping|scalper]] repellant.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Battle Ops Bumblebee''' (Multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>

: An unchanged Legends Class Mudflap figure and a "Premium" vacuum-metalized gold redeco of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends Class [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#BattleOpsCostco|Bumblebee]] were included as "Great Value!" toys, coming with a [[Costco]]-[[exclusive]] gold metallic redeco of the massive [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Battle Ops|Battle Ops Bumblebee]].

: Canada received both English and French versions of this release; weirdly, the French release was available in places outside Quebec such as Vancouver and even Alberta.

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[[File:TF2010 Starscream'sAssault toys.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Also called 'hit and run Mudflap']]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''Starscream's Assault''' (Multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>
:*''Accessories:'' Missile

: This [[Walmart]]-exclusive two-pack contains desert-themed redecoes of [[#Deluxe Class toys|Deluxe Class Mudflap]] and Voyager Class [[Starscream (Movie)/toys#StarscreamsAssault|Starscream]]. Mudflap is mostly tan plastic with various red paint splotches on his vehicle mode, to represent him being absolutely caked with sand from the desert.

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[[File:TargetHighSpeedSpyBattle.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|They ate themselves out of their own profits!]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1d1|'''High-Speed Spy Battle''' (Multi-pack, 2010)}}</ul>

: This [[Target]]-exclusive two pack (or three pack, depending on [[Rack'n'Ruin (G1)|how you count]]) features a redecoed Sideways and the ice-cream truck mode of Mudflap and Skids, which replaces most of the robot mode white plastic on the originals with a rusty brown, adds even more rusty paint applications than the earlier "Shanghai Showdown" version and omits the comic-sans "Made fresh for you" on the front wheel wells of the truck.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TargetMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on High-Speed Spy Battle Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:EZDeliveryMudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Basically, everyone would be happier if this was actually [[Pinkie Pie]].]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Delivery Mudflap''' (EZ Collection, [[2010]])}}</ul>
:*''Release date'': [[October 23]], 2010

: Released in "Vol.5" of TakaraTomy's ''[[EZ Collection]]'' (not the fifth wave of product, the fifth iteration of the cross-franchise line), sold under the ''Autobot Alliance'' banner, "Delivery Mudflap" is a redeco of Legends Class Mudflap in pink and white, referencing his and Skids's ice cream truck form.
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===''Dark of the Moon''===
{{anchor|Cyberverse}}
[[File:DOTM Cyberverse Mudflap toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Mudflap''' (Cyberverse Legion, [[2011]])}}</ul>
:*''Series'': '''1'''
:*''Number'': '''010'''
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''CV25'''
{{toydesigner|[[Joe Kyde]] (Hasbro)}}

: Released in the second wave of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]] Legion-Class toys, Mudflap transforms into a Chevrolet Spark production vehicle, rather than his Trax mode from ''Revenge of the Fallen''. His smaller right fist has a hole to accommodate 3 mm post weapons.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/LegMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on Cyberverse Mudflap at TFU.info]''

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[[File:DOTM MechTechDeluxe Mudflap.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|No, this image hasn't actually been squashed.]]
<ul class="iconlist">{{Bp-a1|'''Mudflap''' (MechTech Deluxe Class, 2011)}}</ul>
:*''TakaraTomy ID number'': '''DA19'''
:*''Accessories:'': MechTech Blaster/Cybertronian Battle [[Axe (weapon)|Axe]]
{{toydesigner|[[Andrew Scribner]] (deco artist)}}

: Part of the third wave of ''Dark of the Moon'' [[MechTech]] Deluxe Class toys, Mudflap transforms from a black Chevrolet Spark with wide orange stripes into a stumpy robot with big feet. He features six MechTech ports in total, with two ports on the roof in vehicle mode, one for each of his hands, and one underneath each of his arms. He comes with a blaster that transforms into a "Cybertronian Battle Axe" when the scope is pulled, though the weapon cannot be locked in battle axe mode.

: Unfortunately, Mudflap suffers from a [[design flaw]]: the connection holding his shoulders and upper arms together is very tight, and trying to swing his upper arms out to the side will occasionally result in the arms popping out of their plastic swivels.

: His weapon was redecoed into the weapon of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 2|Deluxe Class Optimus Prime]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2011/Autobot/Mudflap/mudflap.htm More information on ''Dark of the Moon'' Deluxe Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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==Merchandise==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====RPMs - ''Robot Powered Machines''====
[[File:ROTF-toy RPM Mudflap.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67|The "versus" on the package must refer to their infamous Egypt showdown.]]
*'''Mudflap vs Autobot Skids''' (R.P.M. Mini-Vehicle, 2009)
**''Number:'' '''04 of 08'''
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series'''

: Number four in a series of eight [[Robot Powered Machines]] Mini-Vehicle versus packs, Mudflap is packaged with his twin Skids. It's a non-transformable [[Hot Wheels (franchise)|Hot Wheels]]-like car, with his robot mode sculpted and painted onto his car-mode underside.

: So yeah, the Mini-Vehicle pack is marked as a "vs" set instead of "&" despite consisting of two Autobot twin brothers. Maybe it was a reference to their occasional feud?

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RPMMudflap/mudflap.htm More information on RPMs Mudflap at TFU.info]''
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===''Robot Heroes''===
[[File:RobotHeroes MudflapRampage.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Looks like [[Jolt (ROTF)|the hybrid]] found himself a new friend... a total mudflap!]]
*'''Mudflap & Rampage''' (Two-pack, 2009)
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' Mudflap is a [[super deformed]] figure with limited articulation in his neck, shoulders and, unusually for the line, his waist. He came in a two-pack with [[Rampage (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Rampage]].

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[[File:rotf desertdevastation rh.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Hey guys, wait for me!]]
*'''Desert Devastation''' (Multi-pack, 2009)
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:Both Mudflap and [[Skids (ROTF)#RHDevastation|Skids]] are sculpted in their individual vehicle modes for this box-set that also includes [[Devastator (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Devastator]] and [[William Lennox#Robot Heroes|Captain William Lennox]].

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[[File:Robotheroestwinswidewaysprimedemolishorsideswipe.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|That's right. Enjoy your ''Robot Heroes'' ice cream truck.]]
*'''Shanghai Shootout''' (Multi-pack, 2009)
{{toydesigner|[[Marcelo Matere]] (concept artist)}}

:"Shanghai Shootout" replicates the opening action scene from ''Revenge of the Fallen'', featuring figurines of [[Skids (ROTF)#RHShanghai|Skids]] & Mudflap in ice cream truck mode, [[Sideways (ROTF)#RHShanghai|Sideways]] in vehicle mode, [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/merchandise#RHShanghai|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (ROTF)#Robot Heroes|Demolishor]], and [[Sideswipe (Movie)/toys#RHShanghai|Sideswipe]] in vehicle mode.
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==Bigger Toys==
[[File:ChevySparkTransformersEdition.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|I guess Skids isn't the only Spark around!]]
*'''Chevrolet Spark Transformers Edition''' (2011)

:Produced in a limited run of 1000 units for the South Korean market, the [[General Motors|Chevrolet]] Spark ''Transformers'' Edition features a black paint scheme with orange racing stripes based upon Mudflap's prop (that was cut) from ''Dark of the Moon'', an aero kit with side skirts, 15-inch glossy black wheels, as well as various Autobot and Transformers sigils and branding.

:Pricing in South Korea was at 11,823.00 won for a manual transmission or 13,326.00 for an automatic.
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==Notes==
[[File:ROTF Skids Mudflap ice cream truck evolution.jpg|thumb|upright=0.8|right|What, no milk shakes? Bummer.]]
*The entire shell of the ice cream truck prop was pretty much custom-built from scratch,<ref name="icecream">[https://www.flickr.com/photos/69016045@N00/albums/72157642197397134 Flickr photo album] featuring several photos of the creation process of the ice cream truck prop.</ref> though it appears to be based on a 1937 Dodge D5 truck. [[Ben Procter]] apparently lifted the color scheme and deco for his early concept design for the ice cream truck<ref name="procterrotf">[http://www.benprocter.com/overview/robots-characters-props-vehicles-graphics/8129296 Ben Procter's ROTF concept art at his own website.]</ref> ''directly'' off a photo of an [[Australia]]n ice cream truck that had been added to the Wikipedia article for "ice cream van" in February 2006,<ref name="wikipediaice">{{w|File:Ice Cream Truck Sydney Australia - crop.png|Photo of an Australian ice cream truck at Wikipedia, added in February 2006.}}</ref> down to identical placement and design of the fonts and graphics. The details were later slightly tweaked for the final design that can be seen in the movie... but only very slightly so. While the white and pink color scheme is used by ice cream trucks all over the world, it's a particularly common color combination in Australia.
*One of the decals on the ice cream truck's side that was created specifically for the movie reads "[[File:Symbol decept reg.png|15px]] suck my popsicle!" Classy. Too bad the toy ''does not have'' this decal. (Because, you know, for kids...)
[[File:ROTFSmartCarTwinConcept.jpg|thumb|upright=1.0|Yeah, that's not phallic at all.]]
*In the brief scenes that the twins appear in robot mode while still in their ice cream truck-[[kibble]]d robot forms, both have four wheels present due to the redressing of their individual car-based robot CGI models. The wheels are considerably wider than the ones present on the ice cream truck too.
**Also, in the scanning scene, the pair both curl up into a ball and turn into their new vehicle forms in a burst of light, just as Skids did in his transformation mere seconds ago. This is likely due to the pair having very little screentime in those forms meaning proper transformations weren't animated.
*The Twins' final alternate modes in the film, the Chevrolet Beat (Skids) and Chevrolet Trax (Mudflap), were designed by General Motors as small car concept vehicles. At one point in the film's pre-production, another small car, the [[Mercedes-Benz]] {{w|Smart (automobile)|Smart}}, was evidently considered as an option for a film character; concept art of a "third twin" based on it appears in various sections of the ''Revenge'' DVD special features, always in close proximity to concept art of Skids and Mudflap. Whether it was meant to be a third character related to Skids and Mudflap or if it was supposed to be used in place of one of them is unknown. What '''is''' known is that [[Hasbro]] has had great difficultly in the past trying to get likeness licenses from German automakers, which is probably why the vehicle/character was dropped.
*Oddly enough, even though Mudflap's Chevy Trax [[alternate mode]] features big blue "eyes" on his chest and the truck seems to have a similar "face" on its grill that does not appear on his brother (and fellow [[combiner]]) Skids's Chevy Beat form, he makes up the ''back'' of the ice cream truck. He does, however, still have "eyes" on his chest in his ice cream truck form which are created from the rear taillights of the vehicle. This is evidenced in one scene from the movie where they are lit up in red.
*In their combined ice cream truck mode, the Twins sport the [[license plate]] "KDM 814". A minor variant of this, "KDM 0814" with an extra "0", was later used for the life-sized Bumblebee prop on various displays from 2009 upuntil at least 2011. For the individual cars, two different sets of license plates were apparently used, either "Trax" and "Beat" referencing their car models or "Mudflap" and "Skids". Most likely, the ''intent'' was for the cars the two scan as their new alternate modes to feature the license plates with the cars' names, and for Skids and Mudflap themselves to have their names on their license plates in alternate mode... but then the production crew screwed up, resulting in various oddities. Most notably, in the scene where the Twins scan the Chevrolet Trax and Beat cars, those real cars already feature individualized license plates sporting their robot names, making their argument about who gets to choose which car all the more absurd. Throughout the rest of the movie, the license plates featuring their robot names are featured more prominently, although the "BEAT" plate for Skids can be seen briefly during the New York City scene (it's ''possible'' the "TRAX" plate for Mudflap was used for the same scene, but the car's plate is never seen on screen in that particular scene). All four plates were auctioned off in October 2009.<ref name="licenseauct">[http://www.icollector.com/Autobots-Skids-and-Mudfap-s-license-plates-from-Transformers-Revenge-of-the-Fallen_i8633012 Mudflap and Skids license plates for auction] at icollector.com</ref> The auction claims that the plates referring to their car models were used in vehicle mode, while those identifying the two Autobots by name were used in robot mode... which is ''directly'' refuted by screencaps from the movie included with the auction, which show the robot name plates on the cars in vehicle mode.
*Amusingly, [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro's Battle Bio] for Mudflap lists his arch-enemy as... [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]]. The Twins' RPMs two-pack is also called "Skids vs Mudflap".
*Despite promotional pictures and most of the merchandise made for Mudflap, in the film he is actually closer to red than orange. The RPM and Human Alliance figures are close to the actual character's colors in the film.
*Much like [[Mudflap (Cybertron)|the previous]] [[Mudflap (Movie)|two Mudflaps]], toys of this character tend to be [[shelfwarmer]]s. Maybe the ''name'' is cursed.
* The Twins were originally supposed to return for ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''. Even though [[General Motors]] provided two Chevrolet Sparks to serve as their alternate modes<ref name="chevyspark">[http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-spark-transformers-3.html Left Lane News article on two Chevrolet Sparks spotted on the DOTM set], May 2010.</ref> which were still spotted on the set as late as October 2010,<ref name="dcparking">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2010/10/transformers-3-dc-parking-lot-gallery.html "Transformers 3 DC Parking Lot Gallery"], Transformers Live Action Movie Blog, October 2010.</ref> the two were mostly edited out of the final movie (their vehicle modes can barely be glimpsed in a brief shot). Michael Bay even went so far as to offer a $25,000 reward for anyone who would see the Twins "perform" in the movie.<ref name="reward">[http://collider.com/transformers-3-twins-skids-mudflap-michael-bay/91104/ Collider.com article on Michael Bay's "reward" for spotting Skids and Mudflap "perform" in DOTM], May 2011.</ref> In the novelization and the comic adaptation, Skids and Mudflap still appear.
*Like all non-toy robot [[Kreon]]s in the ''Kre-O'' comics, Mudflap is made from existing ''Kre-O'' parts. He uses the [[Mirage (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Mirage]] helmet... and [[Jazz (G1)/toys#Kre-O|Jazz]] door-backpack.
*[[Harold Attinger|Attinger]]'s playing card of Mudflap was revealed in a prop auction for the ''Transformers'' film series held in 2019.<ref>''[https://profilesinhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/101TransformersSs.pdf Transformers: The Auction]'' by Profiles in History</ref><ref>"[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFiH9rklAfo Items from last three 'Transformers' films go on auction]" by AP Archive</ref>
*Mudflap inspired the similarly orange-colored [[Screech]].

===Controversy===
From watching ''Revenge of the Fallen'', it should be pretty obvious that the depiction of the Twins is rooted in racist stereotypes of African-Americans. Their illiteracy in [[Cyberglyphics]] is framed as "never learnin' to read", they speak in an overall stereotypical manner and are generally shown to not be very clever and quick to violence. Furthermore, compared to the other Autobots (and even fellow black-coded movie Autobot [[Jazz (Movie)|Jazz]]), their designs are visibly more hunched and ugly, with disfigured faces and a gold buck tooth on Skids. [[Tales of the Fallen issue 6|One later attempt]] to "smooth over" the problem would reveal that the pair act the way they do due to them being brain damaged, which only exacerbates the issue.

What's unclear is where exactly this imagery originated from: writers [[Roberto Orci]] and [[Alex Kurtzman]] claimed to have been following [[Michael Bay]]'s lead on the character, while Bay stated that it came from a piece of improv by actors [[Tom Kenny]] and [[Reno Wilson]]. Though Kenny, who is white, declined to comment when interviewed, Wilson, who is black, stated that they had been given direction to play the twins as "wannabe gangster types". This was supposed to play off the fact that, as alien robots who had learned human language and culture from the internet, they could not be black, with Wilson likening them to white rappers like {{w|Kevin Federline}}.<ref>[https://web.archive.org/web/20090626132026/http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/24/transformers-jivetalking-_n_220005.html Transformers' Jive-Talking Robots Raise Race Issues - The Huffington Post]</ref> What this means for Jazz, as well as the [[Brains|other]] [[Mohawk|characters]] Wilson has played, is unknown. Whatever the intent, nobody involved seems to want to be tied to the issue. Orci and Kurtzman have attempted to distance themselves from the characters, stating that the stereotypes weren't in their script.<ref>[http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/orci-and-kurtzman-respond-to-claims-of-racism-in-transformers-2.php Robert Orci and Alex Kurtzman respond to claims of racism on ''Revenge of the Fallen'', Film School Rejects, June 24, 2009]</ref> For whatever reason, the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' novel, written by Alan Dean Foster and based on Orci and Kurtzman's screenplay, only depicts ''Skids'' as the film-accurate slang-talker, while Mudflap speaks like any other Autobot, albeit with a thick lisp. Meanwhile, [[Simon Furman]]'s ''Revenge of the Fallen'' material has ''both'' of the twins using less slang; presumably, Furman likely did not wish to try his hand at "street".

Whatever the intended direction for the characters, the "wannabe gangster" shtick doesn't come across in the finished project. [[Robert Epps]], the only prominent black human character in the film, is never shown having anything to say about them, for example. Ultimately, the Twins' portrayal was rightfully deemed pretty disgusting, and the resultant public backlash was likely what led the studio to quietly drop the pair partway into the filming of ''Dark of the Moon''. While their intended role in the film survived into that film's [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (novel)|novelization]] and [[Transformers: Dark of the Moon Movie Adaptation|comic book adaptation]], the Twins are thankfully not present in any future movie stories, and are indeed conspicuous by their absence in the cross-film ''[[Studio Series]]'' toyline.

Around fifteen years after the film's release, the twins were referenced in a not-so-subtle way on [[Amazon (website)|Prime Video]]'s ''{{w|The Boys (TV series)|The Boys}}'' television series.<ref>[https://www.vulture.com/article/the-boys-recap-season-4-episode-3-well-keep-the-red-flag-flying-here.html ''The Boys'' Recap: Popularity Is Power - Vulture]</ref>

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Mudflap''' (マッドフラップ ''Maddofurappu'')
*''Finnish:'' '''Kuraläppä'''
*''Hungarian:'' '''Sárfogó'''
*''Mandarin:'' '''Dǎngníbǎn''' (挡泥板, "Fender")

==References==
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[[Category:Age of Extinction Autobots]]
[[Category:Combiners]]
[[Category:Costco exclusives]]
[[Category:Cyberverse]]
[[Category:Dark of the Moon Autobots]]
[[Category:Human Alliance]]
[[Category:Kre-O Autobots]]
[[Category:Kreons]]
[[Category:NEST]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Autobots]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:Target exclusives]]
[[Category:Toys"R"Us exclusives]]
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Autobots]]
[[Category:Wal-Mart exclusives]]

Motorcycle drone

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{{disambig2|the Decepticon drones that turn into motorcycles|the Vehicon drones that also turn into motorcycles|Cycle Drone}}
[[File:Human Alliance Not-Arcee Motorcycle drone.jpeg|upright=1.66|thumb]]
:''Motorcycle drones are [[Decepticon]]s from the [[Transformers: Human Alliance|Human Alliance]] portion of the [[movie continuity family]].''

The '''Motorcycle drones''' are Decepticons that look a lot like [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]].

==Games==
===''Transformers: Human Alliance''===
Many Motorcycle Drones, coming in purple, green, and black colors, attacked [[Jake (HA)|Jake]] and [[Vanessa]] on the east coast of the United States. More of them appeared in England Central City, the USA West Coast, and in Canada, where they all tried to stop the Autobots, and their two human partners, from completing their mission to stop [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]]. {{storylink|Transformers: Human Alliance|Human Alliance}}

===''Transformers: Shadows Rising''===
Many Motorcycle drones, as well as two [[Sideswipe clone]]s, attacked [[Jake (HA)|Jay]] and [[Vanessa]] in a mysterious base located in the Pacific Ocean, but were easily dispatched. Motorcycle drones also attacked the two, as well as [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/games|Optimus Prime]] and [[Bumblebee (Movie)/games|Bumblebee]] in Wales when they were investigating the source of an energy signal in the area. {{storylink|Transformers: Shadows Rising|Shadows Rising}}

==Toys==
{{main|Arcee (Movie)#Toys}}

==Notes==
*As Arcee is female, one can assume that these drones are collectively female also.

[[Category:Drones]]
[[Category:Female Transformers]]
[[Category:Human Alliance Decepticons]]
[[Category:Mass-produced Transformers]]
[[Category:Video game-only characters]]

File:Human Alliance Not-Arcee Motorcycle drone.jpeg

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Pat: Motorcycle drones from Transformers: Human Alliance, sourced from [https://youtu.be/5lvhG9o060U?si=sZogOmaKe5U3ycEi|this YouTube video of gameplay footage].

Motorcycle drones from [[Transformers: Human Alliance]], sourced from [https://youtu.be/5lvhG9o060U?si=sZogOmaKe5U3ycEi|this YouTube video of gameplay footage].

Leadfoot (disambiguation)

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{{disambig}}

Across the [[Multiverse|multiverse]], ‘bots that are called '''Leadfoot''' tend to transform into racing cars.

==Major Leadfoots==
<center><gallery widths="150px" heights="200px">
File:LeadfootDOTM-poster.jpg|[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|’’Dark of the Moon’’ Leadfoot]]
</gallery></center>

==Full List of Leadfoots==
{{disamb|y=[[1994]]|[[Leadfoot (G2)|Leadfoot]], the [[Autobot]] [[Rotor Force]] Lola T93 Indy car from ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2010]]|[[Leadfoot (PCC)|Leadfoot]], the Autobot racing car from ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' and ''[[Speed Stars]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2011]]|[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]], the Autobot [[NASCAR]] racer from ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2015]]|[[Leadfoot (TransTech)|Leadfoot]], the [[Transcendent Technomorph]] from ''[[Transformers: TransTech|TransTech]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2024]]|[[Leadfoot (One)|Leadfoot]], the [[Iacon 5000]] racer from ''[[Transformers One (franchise)|One]]''.}}

==Not to be confused with...==
*[[Leftfoot]]
*[[Lightfoot (disambiguation)|Lightfoot]]

Leadfoot (disambiguation)

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{{disambig}}

Most ‘bots called '''Leadfoot''' tend to like transforming into racing cars.

==Major Leadfoots==
<center><gallery widths="150px" heights="200px">
File:LeadfootDOTM-poster.jpg|[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|’’Dark of the Moon’’ Leadfoot]]
</gallery></center>

==Full List of Leadfoots==
{{disamb|y=[[1994]]|[[Leadfoot (G2)|Leadfoot]], the [[Autobot]] [[Rotor Force]] Lola T93 Indy car from ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2010]]|[[Leadfoot (PCC)|Leadfoot]], the Autobot racing car from ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' and ''[[Speed Stars]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2011]]|[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]], the Autobot [[NASCAR]] racer from ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2015]]|[[Leadfoot (TransTech)|Leadfoot]], the [[Transcendent Technomorph]] from ''[[Transformers: TransTech|TransTech]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2024]]|[[Leadfoot (One)|Leadfoot]], the [[Iacon 5000]] racer from ''[[Transformers One (franchise)|One]]''.}}

==Leadfoot should not be confused with...==
*[[Leftfoot]]
*[[Lightfoot (disambiguation)|Lightfoot]]

Leadfoot (disambiguation)

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Most ‘bots called '''Leadfoot''' tend to like transforming into racing cars.

==Major Leadfoots==
<center><gallery widths="150px" heights="200px">
File:LeadfootDOTM-poster.jpg|[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|’’Dark of the Moon’’ Leadfoot]]
</gallery></center>

==Full List of Leadfoots==
{{disamb|y=[[1994]]|[[Leadfoot (G2)|Leadfoot]], the [[Autobot]] [[Rotor Force]] Lola T93 Indy car from ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (franchise)|Generation 2]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2010]]|[[Leadfoot (PCC)|Leadfoot]], the Autobot racing car from ''[[Power Core Combiners]]'' and ''[[Speed Stars]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2011]]|[[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]], the Autobot [[NASCAR]] racer from ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (franchise)|Dark of the Moon]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2015]]|[[Leadfoot (TransTech)|Leadfoot]], the [[Transcendent Technomorph]] from ''[[Transformers: TransTech|TransTech]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=[[2024]]|[[Leadfoot (One)|Leadfoot]], the [[Iacon 5000]] racer from ''[[Transformers One (franchise)|One]]''.}}

Leadfoot should not be confused with...

*[[Leftfoot]]
*[[Lightfoot (disambiguation)|Lightfoot]]

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File:Personal.image.donotuse.jpg

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My personal Image, do NOT use without permission

Army-building

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{{cleanup|July 2021|Inconsistent structure. Should be ''either'' toy-centric ''or'' fiction-centric. Right now, it's both, with little rhyme or reason.}}
[[File:Armies of Terrorcons Seacons Sparkdashers Guardminders Autoroopers Guardians Overcharges.jpg|upright=2.2|thumb|You don't wanna know how much this costs.]]
'''Army-building''' (also '''troop-building''') is a nickname for a toy-collecting habit that involves buying multiple identical toys which represent generic or mass-produced characters (for example, [[Cobra]] soldiers or ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' [[stormtrooper (SW)|stormtroopers]]), with the intent of displaying them as an imposingly large cohesive unit. Some army-builders have hundreds of figures, arranged in elaborate dioramas or military-style formations.

The practice is somewhat less-common in ''Transformers'' fandom than in other fandoms, primarily due to the relative lack of mass-produced, identical, "generic" units, but there are notable exceptions. Perhaps due to the relative dearth of toys representing multiple generic characters, some fans amass armies of non-generic characters (like the [[Jumpstarter]]s).

==Generation 1==
===''The Transformers'' cartoon===
Generation 1 offers many possibilities for army building, usually by using multiple figures of named characters to represent an army of similarly designed drones.

[[File:Scourge and Sweeps.jpg|thumb|A typical example of the victim of [[Hasbro|somebody's]] [[To sell toys|evil plan]].]]
*The [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1|pilot mini-series]] featured a fleet of nameless [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] colored differently from [[Starscream (G1)|the]] [[Thundercracker (G1)|primary]] [[Skywarp (G1)|three]]. Two decades later, [[Air Warrior|toys of these "Air Warriors"]] were finally made in the form of ''[[Heroes of Cybertron]]'' [[Plastic|PVC]] figures. They were sold in multi-packs featuring three identical Air Warriors alongside the aforementioned three named Seekers.
**Additionally, generics with identical colors to the original three would sometimes appear within the SAME SCENE as the original three, technically making Starscream, Skywarp, and Thundercracker army builders as well.
**[[Hotlink (G1)|Hotlink]] and [[Bitstream (G1)|Bitstream]] are also a good match for plenty of Air Warriors, though that would be somewhat pricey.
*The [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] can be represented by [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]], [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] and [[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]]. This is probably the cheaper option than using multiples of the ''actual'' drone-unit Insecticon toys [[Salvo (G1)|Salvo]], [[Zaptrap]], and [[Shothole]] (especially since the orignal Insecticons are frequently reissued), and more [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] to boot.
*Multiple [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] toys can represent the [[Sweep (G1)|Sweeps]]. Similarly, multiple [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] toys can represent [[Cyclonus's Armada|his armada]]. In both cases, the main character and his nameless henchmen may be represented by different releases.
*Multiples of [[Gnaw (G1)|Gnaw]] can be used to represent the [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]]. This works particularly well with this figure, as Gnaw received very little characterization in most official fiction.
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*The [[Guardian robot]]s/[[Dark Guardian]]s are potential army builders, though as an [[e-HOBBY]] [[exclusive]] they would be costly ones.
*[[Kremzeek]] could be considered an army builder, albeit a costly one, as he has only been released as a pack-in with the large [[Autorooper]], the [[Reflector (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Reflector]] three-pack, and ''[[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]]'' [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] toys.
*Though there are multiple [[Junkion (species)|Junkions]], each one has a different [[character model]], and thus using multiple [[Wreck-Gar (G1)|Wreck-Gar]] figures to represent them is not common. While Wreck-Gar's original toy can't really ride himself well, his [[Wreck-Gar (G1)#Transformers .282010.29|Reveal the Shield toy]] can and is designed for it, as are its retools [[Scrapheap (G1)|Scrapheap]] and [[Junkyard (G1)|Junkheap]].

===''The Headmasters'' cartoon===
In ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]'', [[Sixshot (G1)|Sixshot]] demonstrated the ability to create temporary duplicates of himself.

===''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon===
''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (franchise)|Super-God Masterforce]]'' was good to army builders, as it provided several good opportunities.

*The [[Seacon (Masterforce)|Seacons]] had multiples of all the limb-units; [[Turtler]] was the only non-cloned individual of the group. Thankfully, the [[TakaraTomy|Takara]] versions of the original toys are identical to the [[Hasbro]] versions, reducing the need for costly importing.
*The [[Sparkdash]] [[Javil]], [[Guzzle (Masterforce)|Guzzle]], and [[Sizzle (Masterforce)|Sizzle]] are all drones with multiple copies. Though Javil and Guzzle's toys are colored differently from their [[Firecon]] doppelgangers, the ''Masterforce'' cartoon gave all three Sparkdash the Hasbro colors, making for cheap army-building for those who'd rather be [[Show-accuracy|show-accurate]] with their hordes.
*Legions of black [[Guardminder]] drones appeared, led by a single golden one. The black drones can be represented by [[Fasttrack (G1)|Fasttrack]], while the leader can be his redeco [[Black Roritchi]]. However, while collecting a single Black Roritchi wouldn't be too hard, as he comes with BlackZarak ([[Gold Plastic Syndrome|just be careful, okay?]]), collecting an army of Fasttrack toys, which were only sold packaged with [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]], would be expensive. Fortunately, the ''Earthrise'' toyline would release Fasttrack as an individual deluxe class figure, with a subsequent gold repaint in the ''Generations Selects'' line as head honcho Black Roritchi.

===2005 IDW continuity===
*The [[Centurion droids]] are a fairly classic army-builder, though, as usual, an expensive one that comes with a lot of accessories you don't really want multiples of.
*During [[The Transformers: Devastation|Devastation]], the [[Machination]] sent multiple [[Sunstreaker (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Sunstreaker]] clones after [[Hot Rod (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Hot Rod]] and [[Wheeljack (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Wheeljack]]. However, there is no toy of Sunstreaker in that particular form, let alone as a [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmaster]], requiring a substitution. There are also multiple Sunstreaker bodies in black, white and red; though there are no ''Transformers'' toys of these, if one were so inclined they could track down the ''[[Diaclone]]'' red and white <s>Sunstreakers</s> Countach LP500S. Alternatively, the [[Sideswipe (G1)/2005 IDW continuity|Sideswipe]] [[retool|version]] of Sunstreaker's ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' toy ''has'' been produced in [[Sideswipe (G1)#Universe (2008)|those]] [[Red Alert (G1)#Generations|three]] [[Sideswipe (G1)#Timelines|colors]], although the prospect of an army of [[BotCon 2010]] Sideswipes takes this page to an entirely new level of prohibitively expensive. The ''Masterpiece'' version of Sunstreaker has made this a little easier, between himself, [[Cordon]], [[Spin-Out (G1)|Spin-Out]] and the G2 version of Sideswipe—if you don't mind the latter staying in vehicle mode all the time. Also, the [[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|''Earthrise'']] version of Sunstreaker was redecoed as Cordon and Spin-Out in the [[Generations Selects (toyline)|''Selects'']] toyline.
*[[:File:MTMTE24 cvrA.jpg|Cover A]] of ''[[Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4]]'', as well as various other panels, draw the [[Ammonite]]s as using the designs of the [[Mini-Con Assault Team]], making the team an army-builder.
*''[[Earthfall Part 5: I Dream of Wires]]'' features [[Seeker clone|an army of clones]] of [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust.]]

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===''G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers''===
''[[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II]]'' [[G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 3|#3]] features a pack of [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] units.

===''Timelines''===
{{Note|''Timelines'' toys are all [[BotCon|convention]] or [[Transformers Collectors' Club|collectors' club]] exclusives, which can give attempts to army build with them a rather prohibitive pricetag.}}
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*The [[Virulent Clone]] [[exclusive]]s of [[BotCon 2005]] were army builders, and in fact were only sold in pairs.
*[[BotCon 2009]] featured an [[Sweep (G1)#Timelines|exclusive three-pack]] of Sweeps.
*Similarly, [[BotCon 2010]] featured an [[Sharkticon (species)#Timelines|exclusive three-pack]] of Sharkticons.
*[[BotCon 2013]]'s comic showed [[Starscream (MW)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (MW)|Thundercracker]], [[Skywarp (MW)|Skywarp]], [[Prowl (MW)|Prowl]], and [[Sandstorm (MW)|Sandstorm]] leading hordes of drones based on their Generation 1 counterparts' ''[[Machine Wars: Transformers|Machine Wars]]'' toys.
*As a shared bodytype, [[BotCon 2014]]'s 2-pack of [[Pounce#Timelines|Pounce-type]] and [[Wingspan#Timelines|Wingspan-type]] clones can be army built as the named and unnamed [[Dread Pirate Crew]] from [[Cannonball (G1)|Cannonball's]] ''[[Tidal Wave (G1)|Tidal Wave]]''. Or indeed unnamed cannon-fodder resulting from the blueprints being sold on the black market.
*The [[BotCon 2015]] comic showed hordes of [[Waruder]] mechs: [[Parasite]]s, [[Mudfighter]]s, [[Storm Rider]]s, and [[Paralyzer]]s.

===''Kiss Players''===
The [[Earth Defense Command]]'s [[Transformers: Kiss Players (franchise)|Kiss Players]] had 48 of the human-created [[Autorooper]] models in service. In what can only be a move designed to encourage army-building, the large Autorooper toy came with a decal sheet with specialized markings for ''all 48 units'', not simply the ones given to pack-in pilot character [[Atari Hitotonari|Atari]]'s Autorooper.

===''Alternators''/''Binaltech''===
With the introduction of the [[Genetronic Translink System|GT System]] in that series' fiction, [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] can inhabit four bodies in unison, so some collectors might take to buying all four Smokescreen [[variant]]s (or, more precisely, both Smokescreen variants and both Smokescreen GT variants) to represent him in his four bodies at once.

===e-HOBBY toy bios===
*E-HOBBY exclusive [[Overcharge (G1)|Overcharge]] is a [[Quintesson]] military product with multiple units available. This back story, along with the multiple different faction [[insignia]]s he is packaged with, encourages army building, though like the Guardian Robots he would be costly to collect.
*[[Megaplex]]'s Collector's Edition bio describes him as "one of a series" of Megatron clones, making him a possible army-builder. Naturally, though, the e-HOBBY Megaplex toy, similar to Overcharge, would not be easy to army-build. On the other hand, it's pretty dang similar to G1 Megatron, meaning one could use him, and the original ''[[Machine Wars: Transformers|Machine Wars]]'' Megaplex shouldn't be too hard to find.

===''Legends Spin-Off''===
*''[[Transformers United|United EX]]'' [[Straxus (G1)#United EX|Rollermaster]] was used to represent the entire [[Rollermaster Corps]], a legion of spare bodies and slaves and for the twin Straxuses to use for their own evil deeds.

===''Golden Lagoon''===
*''Golden Lagoon'' [[Starscream (G1)/toys#Golden Lagoon|Starscream]]'s lack of any Starscream-specific features makes the figure suitable - but expensive - for army-building ''Golden Lagoon'' Skywarp and Thundercracker.

===''The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers'' manga===
*You can build up the [[Megatron Corps]] by purchasing six of any version of Megatron.

===''Generations Selects'' comic===
*Some of the [[Battle Masters]] such as [[Soundbarrier]], [[Smashdown]], [[Ironworks (facility)|Ironworks]], and [[Doublecrosser (Earthrise)|Doublecrosser]] can be purchased in bulk to represent the [[Selector]]s in the comic.
**The [[Pteraxadon]] Battle Masters can be similarly bought in bulk as well, to represent the pack seen in [[Abominus comic 1]].

==Beast Era==
===''Beast Wars Metals'' manga===
The [[Scorpion Corps]] could be built with numerous [[Scorponok (BW)|Scorponok]] toys, if one considers the minor differences between the two characters to be simply due to an artistic interpretation of the character model. Considering how other characters have been... stylized in these mangas, it might not be much of a stretch.

===''Beast Wars Neo'' cartoon===
Multiple ships in the Cybertron fleet share a design with [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]], which would undoubtedly make him the most expensive army builder of them all.

===''Beast Wars Neo'' comic===
The [[Blentron]]s [[Elphaorpha]], [[Drancron]], and [[Latolata]] have many duplicates.

===''Beast Machines''===
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The [[Vehicon (BM)|Vehicons]] of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' are undoubtedly the most popular army builders from the Beast Era, possibly from all of Transformers, with virtually every Vehicon representing thousands of identical drones. ([[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] was the main exception.)

The [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|''Beast Machines'' cartoon]] featured legions of [[Thrust (BM)|Thrust]], [[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]], [[Jetstorm (BM)|Jetstorm]], [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]], and [[Strika (BM)|Strika]] drones, each commanded by a general. Note that the [[character model]] for Tankor was much closer to the [[Tank Drone]] toy.

''The Wreckers'' comic "[[Departure]]" further featured drones of [[Scavenger (BM)|Scavenger]], [[Blastcharge (BM)|Blastcharge]], [[Spy Streak]], and [[Mirage (BM)|Mirage]]. Additionally, an on-model depiction of the original toy for Tankor was [[Repurposing|repurposed]] to represent [[Quake's drones|drones]] for [[Quake (G1)|Quake]] (who had the same bodyform, but in different colors).
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==''Universe''==
The 2003 ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 franchise)|Universe]]'' comic "[[Homecoming (Universe)|Homecoming]]" featured multiple [[Piranacon (Universe)|Piranacons]], toys which would be eventually released by [[Transformers Collectors' Club]] as new decos of the original [[Seacon (G1)|Seacons]].

==Unicron Trilogy==
The Unicron Trilogy offers multiple possibilities for army building.

===''Armada''===
[[File:Deadend Drone General Armada Toys.jpg|thumb|Corner pocket.]]
In ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', [[Unicron]]'s interior is patrolled by swarms of [[Dead End Drone]]s, commanded by [[Dead End General]] units. This was originally an expensive toy to army-build, being a pack-in with the [[Unicron|$50 Unicron toy]] (though eventually some Target stores clearanced them for as little as $13). In the ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (toyline)|Galaxy Force]]'' toy line though, the fourth [[Micron Booster]] assortment featured "Bug Drones" at a mere 300 yen a pop (very roughly $3). Unfortunately, the [[Blindpacking|blindpacked]] boxes meant you either had to buy opened samples, or an entire case of twelve toys to ensure getting a single Dead End Drone... and the General came only one per every ''two'' cases.

===''Energon''===
''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' offers the largest number of potential army builders of the Unicron Trilogy.

*In both the ''Energon'' [[Transformers: Energon (cartoon)|cartoon]] and [[Transformers: Energon (comic)|comic]] continuities, the Decepticons send thousands of [[Terrorcon (Energon)|Terrorcon]] drones to combat the Autobots and steal raw energon ore. In the comic continuity, these drones were based on four living, fully-sparked Decepticons: [[Battle Ravage]], [[Cruellock]], [[Divebomb (Energon)|Divebomb]], and [[Insecticon (Energon)|Insecticon]]. In the cartoon continuity, the four drone-types also had color-changed variants sold as limited-retail toys. Hasbro would introduce another small Terrorcon to the mix: [[Doom-Lock (Energon)|Doom-Lock]], who was later established as a mass-produced drone via [[Ask Vector Prime#Swindle's Spiel|Swindle's Spiel]].
*In the cartoon, there were also countless identical [[Omnicon]]s split among the three body types; [[Strongarm (Energon)|Strongarm]], [[Skyblast (Energon)|Skyblast]] and [[Signal Flare (Energon)|Signal Flare]]. The fourth Omnicon type from the cartoon, [[Arcee (Energon)|Arcee]], however, was a unique being, serving as the Omnicons' "queen bee". In the comic series, the Omnicons never became mass-produced Transformers.
*The [[bio]] for [[Omega Sentinel (Energon)|Omega Sentinel]] says he is the commander of the "[[Guardians of Cybertron]]", though nothing has ever come forward to indicate just what that group is made up of. Hasbro representatives at [[OTFCC 2004]] indicated that they had intended for groups of Omega Sentinels to appear in the cartoon, but ultimately not even ''one'' did, just the original iteration of the mold, [[Omega Supreme (Energon)|Omega Supreme]]. No canon has specifically made the Omega Sentinel toy, a clear [[homage]] to the [[Guardian robot|Guardian Robots]] of Generation 1, an army-builder. However, Hasbro's original intent and the Generation 1 allusion has led some fans to collect several of him.

===''Cybertron''===
''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]]'' offers a few good army building opportunities.

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*Technically a Terrorcon, [[Scrapmetal (race)|Scrapmetal]] is an excellent army builder from the ''Cybertron'' franchise. In the Takara line, it was available in three different colorations; red, yellow, and blue. Hasbro would later release both the red and yellow versions in their own line, but blue remained exclusive to the ''Galaxy Force'' toyline, ramping up his secondary market value outside of Japan.
*The inhabitants of [[Planet X (Cybertron)|Planet X]] are represented by hundreds of [[Noisemaze Mass Production Type Version|gray clones of Sideways]] and [[Laserbeak drone (Cybertron)|attack bird-bots]]. Both are cost-prohibitive army-builders, as the "Noisemaze Mass Production Type Version" was a DVD pack-in exclusive in Japan (and DVDs are not cheap there even without limited-edition toys packed in), and the only way to collect a horde of Laserbeak drones was by buying multiples of the Voyager-class [[Soundwave (Cybertron)|Soundwave]] toy (which is still less expensive than the Noisemazes).
*Throughout the [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|cartoon series]], "clones" of the [[Blurr (Cybertron)|Blurr]] toy are seen both as part of the civilian Autobot ranks hiding on [[Earth]] and inhabiting [[Velocitron]]. These were never seen in robot mode, and sometimes came in red and yellow varieties as well as the toy's blue (no red or yellow versions of the toy exist, though the ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Swerve (Universe)|Swerve]] toy ''is'' a red-colored pre-''Cybertron''-[[retool]] version of the mold). This doesn't exactly inspire too many to army-build him, but the canon is there to support it.

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==Live-action film series==
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The video games and subsequent comics for the [[Transformers (2007 franchise)|live-action movie universe]] feature numerous models of [[Drone|mass-produced robots]] for both the Decepticons and Autobots. Though there are several toys based on these models (designed primarily for the version of the game for the [[PlayStation]] 2 and 3, [[Xbox]] 360, [[Wii]], and PC), the accuracy of the toys' coloration and head design ''to'' the game models varies, but most are geared towards being the Decepticon drones. Interestingly enough, the toys that got [[redeco]]ed were given original decos, not opposite-side game-decos.

*[[Swindle (Movie)|Swindle]]'s toy is nearly-accurate to the console game's Decepticon Swindle drones.
*[[Dropkick (Movie)|Dropkick]]'s toy has the Decepticon drones' deco, but the face is only somewhat like the Autobot face, leaning towards a more unique design.
*[[Longarm (Movie)|Longarm]]'s toy is only barely accurate to the drone design, owing to timing issues. In the game, both Autobot and Decepticon versions are primarily white. The non-lenshead makes it a little more Autobotty, though.
*[[Dreadwing (Movie)|Dreadwing]] is fairly accurate to the [[Class Alpha drone unit|Decepticon version]] of the drone.
*Both versions of [[Payload (Movie)|Payload]] are similarly very close to the Decepticon [[Class Beta drone unit|Class Beta]] and [[Constructicon Warrior]] drones' designs.
*In the movie comics, [[Landmine (Movie)|Landmine]] lent his form to a series of L.M.-1 drones.

{{note|[[Dirt Boss (ROTF)|Dirt Boss]] and [[Deadlift]] have identical bodytypes to the [[Scrapper (Movie)|Scrapper]] drones. However, since they have different names and bios, they don’t technically count as [[canon]]ical army-building candidates. But if you want to build armies of Dirt Bosses and Deadlifts or unofficially repurpose them as Scrappers, go ahead. We're not stopping you.}}

===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
Potentially, every [[Constructicon (ROTF)|Constructicon]] from the movie is an army builder, because multiple characters with the same body model are either destroyed, merged into Devastator, or are fighting the army at the same time.

===''Dark of the Moon''===
*Multiple Autobots of [[Roller (DOTM)|Roller]]'s design are seen aboard the ''[[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]]''. Like many of the potential army builders on this page, having to actually army-build Roller is an expensive proposition since Roller was only sold as a pack-in with the ''Ark'' playset.
*The tiny [[Lensmeter Decepticon]]s seen attending to [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]] in the movie share their design with [[Scalpel (ROTF)|Scalpel]].
*The [[Dread (DOTM)|Dreads]] can be portrayed by multiple [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]]s with the metal hair in different positions. They're later joined by ''The Last Knight'' [[Berserker]], and ''[[Studio Series]]'' [[Crowbar]] and Crankcase.
*A fleet of [[Orbital Assault Carrier]]s is shown invading [[Chicago]].

===''Age of Extinction''===
[[File:Studio-Series-MV4-Deluxe-Shadow-Raider.jpg|upright=1.3|thumb|"You're going to pull my head off and give it to Lockdown, aren't you?"]]
*The [[Knight Ship]] is guarded by a pack of [[Steeljaw (AOE)|Steeljaws]]. ''[[Studio Series]]'' would later give us the [[Shadow Raider]]s, despite them being redecos of their boss [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]].
*An army of [[Vehicon (AOE)|Vehicon]] toys can be used to represent many of the vehicles used by [[Cemetery Wind]]. However, that would be rather difficult, seeing as the only toys are either part of a rather expensive [[Transformers: Platinum Edition|Platinum Edition]] multi-pack or a hard to find [[tail-ender]].
*Multiple [[Insecticon (Movie)|Insecticons]] were seen in the KSI headquarters.
*Multiple [[Stinger (AOE)|Stingers]] can be used to represent the mass-produced units seen in the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (mobile game)|Mobile Game]].
*The Vehicons can also bolster [[Megatron (Movie)|Galvatron]]'s ranks, but we have already mentioned that would be difficult. Fortunately, ''Studio Series'' would give us [[KSI Boss]]es redecoed from [[Nitro Zeus]]. And while their toys do not necessarily match their on-screen portrayals due to being redecoed from Stinger, the [[KSI Sentry|KSI Sentries]] can make useful army-builders nonetheless.

===''The Last Knight''===
*The six identical [[Infernocon|Infernocons]] seen in the movie can be represented by six figures of [[Skulk]], all of which are only available in the relatively rare TRU exclusive [[Infernocus]] box set.

===''Bumblebee''===
*''Studio Series'' [[Thrust (Movie)#Studio Series|Thrust]], [[Thundercracker (Movie)#SS89|Thundercracker]], and [[Skywarp (Movie)#Studio Series|Skywarp]] can be used to represent [[generic]] Seekers in addition to the respective official characters.

===''Rise of the Beasts''===
*''Studio Series'' [[Freezer#Studio Series|Freezer]] and [[Novakane#Studio Series|Novakane]] can be bought in bulk to stand in for the many [[Sweep (ROTB)|Sweeps]] that appear as part of [[Unicron]]'s army.
*Multiple [[Scorponok (ROTB)|Scorponok]] (or the more accurately colored [[Double Punch (ROTB)|Double Punch]]) can be seen scurrying around in the film's introduction and final battle.

==''Animated''==
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*''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' [[Starscream (Animated)|Starscream]] had multiple [[Starscream clone (Animated)|clones]] of varying colors. In "[[Transformers Comic issue 17#Dino-MIGHT!|Dino-MIGHT!]]", they were all colored like him, making him an army builder. There were also sparkless, inanimate clone bodies colored like him in "[[A Fistful of Energon]]".
*[[Soundwave (Animated)|Soundwave]]'s multiple VR clones from "[[Human Error, Part II]]" make Electrostatic Soundwave an army builder.
*[[Autotrooper (Animated)|Autotrooper]]s are an all-identical Autobot police force. Figures were made available at [[BotCon 2011]], featured in an exclusive three-pack. An Autotrooper-inspired retool was also featured in a ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]'' multipack.
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==Aligned continuity family==
===''War for Cybertron''===
*''Studio Series'' [[Soldier (unit)#Studio Series|Gamer Edition Decepticon Soldier]] is there to help you army-build a bunch of Decepticon troops to reenact playing the Autobot levels and Escalation maps in ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (360/PS3/PC)|War for Cybertron]]''.

===''Prime''===
[[File:PrimeVehiconToys.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|The Steve Convention]]
*The ''Prime'' toyline has a plethora of [[Vehicon (Prime)|Vehicon]] toys, based on the generic Decepticon model in the cartoon.
*The [[MECH Commando|MECH Trooper]] that came with the Bumblebee vs. Starscream Entertainment Pack is technically an army builder, since you see multiples in the show, but you'd have to buy multiple Bumblebees and Starscreams to get more than one of them.
*Any of [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]]'s ''Prime'' figures can be used to represent the [[Starscream clone (Prime)|Starscream clone]]s from the show.
*The [[Arms Micron]] [[Unicron/toys#Prime|Gaia Unicron]] is an army-builder, because Unicron had the ability to multiply himself in the show.
*[[Cyberverse (toyline)#Commander Class 2|Cyberverse Commander]] [[Hardshell#Prime|Hardshell]] can be used to build an [[Insecticon (WFC)|Insecticon]] army.

===''Rescue Bots''===
[[File:Morbot rescan rb2016.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The only Con in the village.]]
*[[Doctor Morocco]] produced multiple [[MorBot]]s in ''[[Transformers: Rescue Bots (cartoon)|Rescue Bots]]'', making any of the resulting MorBot figures potential army-builders. However, the transforming Rescan figure is the most viable, being the only one not packed as part of a set. (''Nobody'' needs to army-build Bumblebee or Graham Burns...)

===''Robots in Disguise'' (2015)===
*Many [[Caretaker Mini-Con]]s sharing [[Fixit (RID)|Fixit]]'s design were shown aboard ships, particularly in the episodes "[[Deep Trouble (RID)|Deep Trouble]]", "[[Portals]]", "[[Decepticon Island (Part 1)]]" and "[[Decepticon Island (Part 2)]]". This makes any version of Fixit an army-builder.
*Multiple [[Major Mayhem]]s were shown under the command of [[Stockade (RID)|Stockade]], essentially making him an army-builder. There's also a command unit who bears a slight resemblance to [[Volcano (RID)|Volcano]]...who is an Autobot. However, Major Mayhem is in a two-pack with [[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]], and may be expensive because you have to buy multiple Bumblebees to get multiple Major Mayhems.

==''Generations''==
===''Combiner Wars''===
*At [[Toy Fair 2015]], a member of the ''Transformers'' design team commented that [[Viper#Toys|Viper]] was designed to be a generic-style Transformer like the [[Omnicon]]s with the intent that fans army-build him. Whilst he has no fiction of his own, this army-building reputation comes from the fact that he is based upon both the [[Cobra Viper]] troopers and the Cobra Rattlers that they often pilot from ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]''. However, Viper ended up being the [[shortpacking|shortpacked]] figure in his [[wave]] (two of him per case compared to three [[Groove (G1)#Generations|Grooves]] and three [[Warpath (G1)#Combiner Wars|Warpaths]]), and was ''also'' omitted from the subsequent wave (unlike his two wave-mates), which made finding him rather difficult to begin with, let alone collecting multiple specimens. On top of that, several international markets (such as Australia and the United Kingdom) skipped the only wave he shipped in entirely.

===''Titans Return''===
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*''Titans Return'' Legends Class [[Gnaw (G1)|Gnaw]] and ''[[Transformers Legends (franchise)|Legends]]'' [[Sharkticon (species)#Legends|Sharktron]] can be army-built into hordes of [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticon]]s.
*In the spirit of army-building, the aforementioned ''Legends'' Sharktron also includes a [[Sweep (G1)#Legends|Sweep Titan Master/Headmaster]] that differs from that of [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Legends|Scourge]]/[[Scourge (G1)/toys#Titans Return|Fracas]], intended as a replacement to help differentiate your "real" Scourge from his minions.

===''War for Cybertron: Siege''===
*Multiple ''War for Cybertron: Siege'' [[Reflector (G1)#War for Cybertron: Siege|Refraktors]] can be used to fill out an army, since their model was used for this purpose in the cartoon. Hasbro even encourages it, by allowing three copies of the figure to combine into their camera mode.

===''War for Cybertron Trilogy''===
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*The ''[[War for Cybertron Trilogy (toyline)|War for Cybertron Trilogy]]'' [[Centurion droid#Generations|Centurion Drone]] can be reasonably army-built. However, doing so comes with a downside: while multiple pistols and energon cubes—and even backpacks usable with [[Tigertrack#Generations|Tigertrack]] and [[Red Alert (G1)/toys#War for Cybertron: Siege|Red Alert]]—would certainly be useful, most of the remaining accessories in the included Weaponizer Pack are character-specific. Soon to flood [[eBay]].
*The ''War for Cybertron Trilogy'' [[Deseeus Army Drone]]s can be bought in bulk to display alongside [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticon]]s and [[Allicon]]s, although their exclusivity to [[Walmart]] means they aren't as widely available for purchase.

===''War for Cybertron: Earthrise''===
* Like Gnaw, above, the Deluxe Class ''[[War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Earthrise]]'' "[[Allicon#War for Cybertron: Earthrise|Quintesson Allicon]]" army-builds nicely, being sold singly at regular retail in the U.S. The [[Quintesson Judge (G1)#Toys|Quintesson Judge]] is also an army builder.

===''War for Cybertron: Kingdom''===
* The Predacon ship has an army of generics based on Scorponok, so the Deluxe Class ''[[War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Kingdom]]'' "[[Scorponok (BW)#War for Cybertron: Kingdom|Scorponok]]" works as an army builder.

===''Studio Series''===
* ''[[Studio Series]]'' [[Gnaw (G1)#Studio Series|Gnaw]] is perfect for building [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticon]] armies, though at the Deluxe Class scale it is slightly more costly than the ''Titans Return'' version.
* ''Studio Series'' [[Sweep (G1)#Studio Series|Sweep]] is another ideal army-builder. The Voyager Class Sweeps have a more saturated color scheme than ''Studio Series'' [[Scourge (G1)/toys#Studio Series|Scourge]], making it easier to distinguish the troops from their master in this case.
* A ''Studio Series'' "MTMTE Collection" multi-pack contained both a Decepticon [[Ground Soldier#Studio Series|Ground Soldier]] and an [[Air Warrior#Studio Series|Elite Seeker]] from the game ''[[Transformers: Devastation]]''. These do NOT [[scale]], however, with the ''Devastation'' [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generations toys#SSDevastation|Optimus Prime]] released that same year.

===''Legacy''===
* ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]'' (specifically its [[subline imprint]] ''Evolution'') features a cross-continuity multipack that consists of four trooper characters. Exclusive to Target's ''[[Buzzworthy Bumblebee]]'' subline, this set is notable for being purchased with the explicit purpose of army-building, with three of the four figures including alternate heads meant to be swapped out at the owner's wish. The set features:
**[[Autotrooper (Animated)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Animated Universe Autotrooper]]
**[[Air Warrior#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Decepticon Seeker]]
**[[Cybertronian (faction)#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|G2 Universe Cybertronian Trooper]]
**[[Quintesson Bailiff#Buzzworthy Bumblebee|Quintesson Trooper]]
* ''Legacy'' (specifically its subline imprint ''United'') also features a cross-continuity multipack that contains trooper characters. Of this Target exclusive set, two of the four figures excluding [[Cliffjumper (WFC)#Legacy|Prime Universe Cliffjumper]] and [[Squeezeplay (G1)#Legacy|G1 Universe Squeezeplay]] work as army builders:
**[[Tarantulas (BW)/toys#United|Beast Wars Universe Tarantulas]] as [[Tyrantulas]].
**[[Tarn (Cyberverse)#Legacy|Cyberverse Universe Tarn]] as generic [[Decepticon supersoldier]].
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==''Cyberverse''==
[[File:Cyberverse-Scout-Scraplet.jpg|upright=1.3|thumb]]
*In the second season of ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (cartoon)|Cyberverse]]'', [[Starscream (Cyberverse)|Starscream]] used [[Vector Sigma]] to reprogram the [[AllSpark]], creating an army of his "children," the [[Scraplet]]s. The ''[[Transformers: Cyberverse (toyline)|Cyberverse]]'' Scout Class [[Scraplet#Cyberverse|Scraplet]] toy, while far larger than the on-screen Scraplets, is practically made for army-building.
*Warrior Class [[Gnaw (Cyberverse)#Toys|Gnaw]], while looking nothing like his statue in the show, has an alternate mode that ''somewhat'' looks like the [[Sharkticon (species)|Sharkticons]], without all the tribal markings, of course. Smaller tribal marked versions were released in the Sharkticons attack pack.
*[[Tarn (Cyberverse)|Tarn]] led an army of identical super-soldiers. Though Tarn never received a proper ''Cyberverse'' toy, he did get a [[Tarn (Cyberverse)#Legacy|''Cyberverse''-inspired repaint]] in ''[[Transformers: Legacy|Legacy]]'' that could be army built, though it comes in a multi-pack with three other characters.

==''Collaborative''==
*Though he's never appeared in any actual fiction, per se, [[Party Wallop]] is based on the designs of the [[Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles]], who are historically a four-man team. He also comes with all their weapons and four different "bandanna" pieces, which encourages collectors to buy four of him and give each one a given Turtle's bandanna and weapons.
[[Category:Fan terminology]]
[[Category:Toys]]

Talk:Army-building

2025-10-21T14:54:12Z

Pat: /* One? */ new section

My brain's a bit fried at the moment, but is it worth maybe popping in a list of the 'generic/army-building' toys and characters? (Scrapmetal, Scourge/Sweep, etc.) --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 21:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

== Movie Army-building ==
It's been mentioned that Dirt Boss from ROTF is a close ringer for the Scrapper Drones. Can we add him to the list? [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 16:11, 8 July 2009 (EDT)

==Reflector==
If we are going to mention the hordes of generic seekers shouldn't we mention the hordes of generic Reflector bots?[[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 20:13, 20 April 2010 (EDT)
==Things that may or may not be army builders==
I was wondering about these two things but would Cyclonus and Minicons be armybuilders? (Cyclonus because of his ""Armada" and Minicons because of how many crowded shots use models from other Minicons as generics and the shots where no bodies are clearly visible but there are distinctl large numbers of them like towards the end of armada)--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 20:21, 15 July 2011 (EDT)

I would offer a similar question to both BW Dinobot's. Since Megatron did have a tendency to create a lot of clones of him, that just never transformed...

== Cleaning up the page ==

It's been flagged for 2 years, how should we go about it?[[User:Poliwag06|Poliwag06]] ([[User talk:Poliwag06|talk]]) 23:03, 29 November 2023 (EST)

== Cleaning up the page (new!) ==
I discused this in the discord, but I think we should do a project to change this page into fully Toy Oriented page. Army Building is a collector focused concept, not a fiction based one, so I think we should go by toyline rather than by fiction.

I plan on making a sandbox page to work on it. Any objections? ([[User talk:Leia G|talk]]) 1601, 18 October 2025
:While army building is a toy-based concept, I'd think continuity is more important as it informs what/why you're army building. For example, people who buying the new [[Air Warrior#Studio Series|Elite Seeker]]/[[Ground Soldier#Studio Series|Ground Soldier]] pack aren't looking for "''Studio Series''" army builders, they're looking for "''Devastation''" army builders.
:And it would split up things that people would make more sense to be seen together on the page. For example, ''Rise of the Beasts'' Scorponok would end up split between a ''Rise of the Beasts'' toy section and a ''Studio Series'' section. Or if you're looking for army builders from ''Cyberverse'', one might default to just the ''Cyberverse'' section and end up missing the Cyberverse Tarn army builder in the ''Legacy'' section.
:The main sticking point here imo is the whole ''Generations'' section, which I think was started because ''Generations'' isn't directly tied to a continuity like eponymous toylines are by default, even though most of the army builders in the line seem to be G1 based. IMO it would make more sense to move all those entries under appropriate continuities. I don't think we really need to have G1 Gnaw/Sharkticons mentioned multiple times for each toyline they might appear in. —[[User:BluJayWarrior|BluJayWarrior]] ([[User talk:BluJayWarrior|talk]]) 19:45, 18 October 2025 (EDT)

:Army-building is a fiction-based concept. There was nothing in the toyline that suggested there would be lots and lots of Scourge lookalikes but only one Misfire. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] ([[User talk:Thylacine 2000|talk]]) 21:01, 18 October 2025 (EDT)

== One? ==

[[Tracker|Trackers]] currently have no Hasbro figure, just Blokees. Do we refrain from including them until they’re done in Studio Series?

User:Pat

2025-10-21T14:00:25Z

Pat:

'''Friday'''

Well...

I haven't written in this thing in (10) years. I was getting home from work today and I saw this thing lying under a stack of paperwork. I guess I used to like writing in it when I was a kid, so I figured I'd give it another try.

Jesus, there's a lot of catching up to do. Where to start? Rowley's gone. No, not dead or anything, he just moved away. He's lived in Boston for seven years now, I think. I don't even remember anymore. Damn, I haven't spoken to him at all since he left. I still don't really want to talk about it. I work a good job, I guess. Me and Bryce Anderson work at this office downtown. I mean, it's not like I enjoy it, but it pays the bills.

Am I happy? I’m not sure…

User:Pat

2025-10-21T13:41:11Z

Pat: Replaced content with "."

Sentinel Prime (disambiguation)

2015-03-19T12:18:22Z

Pat:

The name '''Sentinel Prime''' can refer to:

{{disamb|y=1988|[[Sentinel Prime (G1)|Sentinel Prime]], the [[Autobot]] [[Prime (rank)|leader]] who preceded [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]] in several different [[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]] [[Continuity|continuities]].}}
{{disamb|y=2007|[[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]], a jerk and member of the [[Autobot Elite Guard]] in ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]''.}}
{{disamb|y=2008|[[Sentinel Prime (TransTech)|Sentinel Prime]], the [[Transcendent Technomorph]] that preceded [[Optimus Prime (TransTech)|Optimus Prime]] as Prime.}}
{{disamb|y=2009|[[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]], former leader and captain of the [[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]] from the [[Dynasty of Primes]] in the [[Movie (franchise)|live-action franchise]].}}
{{disamb|y=2010|[[Sentinel Zeta Prime]], the Autobot who preceded [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] in the [[Aligned continuity family]].}}
{{disamb|y=2011|[[Sentinel Prime (Kre-O)|Sentinel Prime]], the Autobot brick-based being and [[Kreon]] from ''[[Kre-O]]''.}}
{{disambly=2011|[[Sentinel Prime (SG Animated)|Sentinel Prime]], the evil counterpart of the <s>jerk</s> [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]].}}
{{disamb|y=2012|[[Sentinel Prime (BS)|Sentinel Prime]], the spring-loaded Autobot from the ''[[Bot Shots (franchise)|Bot Shots]]'' game.}}

Sentinel Prime should not be confused with:

*Other uses of the word [[Sentinel (disambiguation)|Sentinel]].
*Other uses of the word [[Prime (disambiguation)|Prime]].

{{disambig}}

User:Pat

2015-03-16T11:56:06Z

Pat:

[[File:Personal.image.donotuse.jpg|center|200px|thumb]]

Hi, I'm Pat.

{{bigquote|With creativity you can do anything|Me (secret name)}}
==Honest Ramjet==
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|''The name or term Ramjet also refers to any other characters or ideas. You can read more about them by seeing [[Ramjet (disambiguation)]].''
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:''Ramjet is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]]''.

[[Image:AnimatedRamjetModel.jpg|thumb|250px|[[Derrick J. Wyatt|"No clone army..."]] [[Sam Register|"...definitely no clone army..."]] [[Marty Isenberg|"...absolutely no clone army in this show!"]]]]

'''Ramjet''', certainly the '''Liar Starscream''', is not the [[Starscream (Animated)|original Starscream]], and a [[Starscream clone (Animated)|clone]].

What? We never said he was the original Starscream.

He does have a problem with telling the truth. Every single thing he ever says is a complete lie. Just because what he just said completely contradicts everything he said previously, this does make him an irredeemable bold-faced liar.

{{bigquote|I'm not down! I can escape any time I want to! I... just don't want to.|Ramjet after getting stasis cuffed by [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]]|"[[A Bridge Too Close, Part II]]"}}

==Fiction==
===the ''Animated'' cartoon===
{{voiceactor| [[Tom Kenny]] (English), [[Jin Yamanoi]] ja nai (Japanese)|Nicht [[Stefan Staudinger]] (German), Non [[Daniele Demma]] (Italian), No [[Alexis Quiroz]] (Latin American Spanish)}}

[[Image:Starscream with Liarscream.jpg|thumb|left|"Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes." "No it isn't." "It is." "Not at all."]]

Ramjet did first try to assert that he was the original Starscream, then deny he said that, then deny that he was a liar when [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]] called him a liar. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part I}}.

Ramjet managed to do fairly well in the [[space bridge]] battle. He told his Autobot targets that he was about to shoot them. He was trapped by [[Prowl (Animated)|Prowl]] in a pair of [[stasis cuffs]], and after that did happen he was helped to escape by the [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sycophant]], and he denied that any of this occurred. When [[Omega Supreme (Animated)|Omega Supreme]] came on the scene, Ramjet did try to tell the giant his stabilizing servo was unbolted. Had he done so, Omega didn't fall for it and just promptly kicked the clone a few miles away. {{storylink|A Bridge Too Close, Part II}}

Later, a stasis-cuffed [[Lugnut (Animated)|Lugnut]] was helped at all out of his plight by Ramjet. The clone was being completely honest when he promised not to tell Megatron about Lugnut's humiliating failure. But none of that happened so it doesn't matter. Yeah, that's the ticket. {{storylink|Three's a Crowd}}

[[Image:TFAni 5ServosofDoom LiarScream Helpless.jpg|thumb||"Your middle name's Judas, but you tell everyone that it's Jonathan."]]
Long after that, [[Lockdown (Animated)|Lockdown]] captured the disarmed and helpless Ramjet for [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Prime]] in exchange for a gyro-stabilizer. However, Lockdown also double-crossed Sentinel when Ramjet offered the bounty hunter a better deal earlier. Ramjet did break free and stasis cuff the alert Autobot on the spot. As Ramjet tried to get away with the armed and dangerous Sentinel, he was knocked out of the sky by [[Jetfire (Animated)|Jetfire]] and [[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorm]], who were accompanied by [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] and [[Jazz (Animated)|Jazz]]. The battle did go in Ramjet's favor and he did use Sentinel as a shield against their attacks. Ramjet tried to escape again, but Optimus covered his face with foam. He dropped Sentinel head-first into the ground. After [[Safeguard (Animated)|Safeguard]] blasted him out of the sky with a fireball, Optimus and Jazz pushed a scoreboard on top of him. And he was stasis cuffed and hauled into custody. {{storylink|Five Servos of Doom}}

[[Image:TFAni_Decepticon_Air_BoxScream_ConeScream.jpg|thumb|left|200px|New helmet? What are you talking about?]]
Later, Sentinel Prime steered his ship through a stormy nebula.It revived [[Swindle (Animated)|Swindle]], who was still immobilized from his own slow-down ray. From there, Swindle freed and re-arm Ramjet along with the other captured Decepticons. Swindle also did give [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]] and Ramjet strangely familiar helmets to tell them apart. Afterwards, Ramjet and the Decepticons manhandled the Elite Guard. They were captured before Sentinel sent a coded SOS to Optimus Prime. Fortunately, Optimus did appear out of Swindle's chest, and send Ramjet and other Decepticons into chaos. The battle did spill out of the ship, where [[Jetstorm (Animated)|Jetstorm]] did somehow bombard him with a tornado. Ramjet also was present when [[Blitzwing (Animated)|Blitzwing]] did capture the Autobots and did try to freeze them in the decontamination unit. He certainly was frozen when Jazz did booby-trap decontamination unit. He ultimately was re-captured and sent to Cybertron, where he was paraded around with the jubilant Sentinel. That's [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]] you're thinking of! {{storylink|Decepticon Air}}
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===''The Cool'' comic===
[[Image:StarscreamCloneArmyAttack01.jpg|thumb|right|200px|I've never been in any fancy Japanese comic books! What ''are'' [[you]] talking about!?]]

Ramjet joined the rest of the [[Starscream clone (Animated)|Clone Army]] in battle for the Decepticon [[Space Bridge]]. And he was most certainly shocked when Optimus Prime and Megatron joined forces to stop him! {{storylink|The Cool Episode 7}}

Ramjet certainly did get wiped out by Omega Supreme, because he was following Megatron's orders and he was afraid of being destroyed by said warlord. {{storylink|The Cool Episode 8}}

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==Toys==
===Animated===
[[Image:AnimatedLegendsRamjetClearWhite.jpg|thumb|300px|This is always how I envisioned what my first toy would be like.]]
*'''Ramjet Clear White Version''' (EZ Collection, 2010)

: A redeco of a Legends Starscream in mostly colorful clear (with no opaque white parts). He was not only available at [[Ito Yokado]] stores in Japan, but also given away for free to customers who purchased ''Animated'' merchandise totaling at least 3,000 yen on [[July 24]]th.

:This mold was also used to make Starscream Clear Purple Version, [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]] Clear Blue Version, [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]] Clear Purple Version, [[Sunstorm (Animated)|Sunstorm]] Clear Orange Version, and [[Starscream Clone Black Version]]

{{-}}{{anchor|Activator}}
[[Image:AniActivatorsRamjet.jpg|thumb|300px|At long last! [[Slipstream (Animated)|Slipstream]] finally has a toy!]]
*'''Ramjet''' (Activator, 2010)

:Ramjet is a redeco of [[Activators]] Starscream or an exclusive "second chance" prize in a ''Transformers''-themed raffle held by Family Mart stores across Japan. He could be purchased through the mail with a combination of winning E, F and G prize tickets and 2,500 yen. He transforms into a futuristic jet with an [[autotransformation]] gimmick, which certainly would let him transform from vehicle to robot at the press of a button.

:This mold was also used to make [[Dirge (Animated)|Dirge]], [[Thundercracker (Animated)|Thundercracker]] and [[Skywarp (Animated)|Skywarp]].

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===English-original names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Ramjet''' (ラムジェット ''Ramujetto'')

User:Pat

2015-03-16T11:13:01Z

Pat: /* Prank of the day */

Talk:Triple Changer

2015-03-14T13:16:32Z

Pat: /* G1 Galvatron */

Should this really be in Fandom? Hasn't it always been an official term?--[[User:OctopusPrime|Octopus Prime- King of the Road!]] 23:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
: I think it's in that category because fans use it for toys other than official Triple Changers which turn into three things. I think that's kinda of a debateable category choice, though. Fans think lots of stupid things.--[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:19, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

::Actually I had been making a handful of fandom-related pages and just forgot to remove it from the copied-pasted stuff. -[[User:Autobus Prime|Autobus Prime]] 12:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Umm..
IF I recall correctly Astrotrain and Blitzwing came out in '85.
Might be wrong.

Astrotrain and Blitzwing were from 1985. If I recall Armada Laserbeak said Triple Changer on his box. As did several Cybertron redeco Mini-Cons with weapon modes (like Anti-Blaze, Prowl and Scythe). I think Cybertron Dark Scorponok and Cryo Scourge as well.

The toy catalogues list Metroplex, Trypticon, and Fortress Maximus with having three modes as opposed to others like the Scramble City leaders with unmentioned intermediate modes. There should really be some discussion what what makes a triple changer and what doesn't.
:I think in terms of this article, it's just about the direct official use of the term 'Triple Changer', even if it hasn't been applied to some three-mode characters. --[[User:Ratbat|Ratbat]] 11:23, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems ATB Megatron was a Triple Changer, according to a Hasbro pitch man. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFfW-95fghU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eallspark%2Ecom%2Fforums%2Findex%2Ephp%3Fshowtopic%3D61309&feature=player_embedded [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 23:49, 3 August 2009 (EDT)

The translation show bible for Beast Wars Neo refers to guys like Big Convoy, Longrack, Coroda, Heinlad, Break and Stampy as "three-changing" (yes, Heinlad turns from robot to beast to statue!) Is "three-changing" a Triple Changer? Should it at least get mentioned? [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 12:17, 14 September 2009 (EDT)

==More G1 Scorponok proof==
In the commercial for Scorponok vs. the Technobots Galvatron himself refers to Scorponok as a "Headmaster Triple Changer base" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mc28D8K--o [[Special:Contributions/68.61.240.172|68.61.240.172]] 10:00, 12 November 2009 (EST)

== Not a Triple Changer! ==

I have not changed it yet because *maybe* I am mistaken, but the ROTF Megatron doesn't have three modes does it? I own the voyager version, and I am sure there is no official jet mode and the leader one is so inflexible you couldn't make up a third mode if you tried. [[User:Titanus Prime|Titanus Prime]] 11:29, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
:I think this is because in the ROTF movie, he apears to transform into his intergalactic jet-mode, wile he also transforms into a tank. It has nothing to do with the toys at least.--[[User:Sunjumper|Sunjumper]] 11:38, 31 March 2010 (EDT)
::As it says on Megatron's page, he is a triple changer in [[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|Revenge Of The Fallen Movie Universe]] and [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen Official Movie Adaptation|comic adaptation]]. He isn't in the movie itself, his tank mode can fly! - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:38, 31 March 2010 (EDT)

== Missing Characters? ==

Shouldn't the character (and by proxy, the toys) of Punch/Counterpunch count as a Triple Changer? I always considered him one, since he had three distinct forms. Sure, he didn't have two vehicle forms, like most the others, but it should still count.
Also, what about Doubledealer? If I recall, he's always been billed as a Triple Changer.

:If you can find it on official packaging, advertising, or in liscenced material he belongs here. If not, no. Show us some evidence. :)--[[Special:Contributions/76.28.76.206|76.28.76.206]] 11:22, 8 February 2012 (EST)

== Where is Animated? ==

The page only refers to Generation One triple changers. Why is there no mention of them for Animated? Granted, there may only be one of them but there is some rather interesting info on the subject of triple changers within the continuity. Is there a separate page for Animated triple changers?

== G1 Galvatron ==

He is a triple changer is he? He becomes a fictional tank/cannon or something and a fictional gun, like this image.
[[File:G1 Galvatron toy.jpg|200px|thumb|right|3 modes!]]

Talk:Triple Changer

2015-03-14T13:14:28Z

Pat: /* G1 Galvatron */ new section

Redeco

2015-03-13T05:50:08Z

Pat: /* Popular redeco characters */

{{disambig2|'''toys''' sharing a physical model|'''characters''' sharing a physical model|Body-type}}

[[Image:Redeco.jpg|right|250px|thumb|It may be a surprise to some that these three toys are actually the same toy but in three different color schemes! Crafty.]]
A '''redeco''', or recolor, is a toy which uses the same [[mold]]s as a previously-released toy, but has been reproduced with different plastic colors and/or different paint applications. A redeco can either be officially marketed as the same [[character]] in different colors, or as a different character. A redeco uses exactly the same tools or molds as the original toy. If any changes have been made, even something as simple as giving the toy a different head or additional pegs for locking body parts into place, it is more properly categorized as a [[retool]].

For example: the first three ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]], [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], are redecos while the second year Seekers [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] are retools of the same base mold.

The term "[[repaint]]" is also in wide use among fans as a synonym for "redeco". "Redeco", however, is the term used by the people on [[Hasbro]]'s ''Transformers'' team. Additionally, the term "repaint" is technically wrong in almost all instances of a same-mold-new-colors toy, as typically more than the paint applications are changed when a toy is redecoed.

==Why redecos?==
[[Image:Encoreratchetemergencygreen.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Some people just don't know when to stop.]]
The single most expensive step in making a Transformers toy is making the steel-cut [[mold]]s required to hold then cool molten plastic. Add to this the salaries of the designers and engineers, and there is a very considerable expense involved in making a single new-mold toy. Many of these development expenses are not involved in making a redeco, giving the company a chance to make a larger profit on a single mold and put more product on the shelves with a smaller investment.

Another reason is that the toy market moves far, far faster today than it did when the line first started. Retailers do not like product to linger, and shipping older toys in new assortments can give the impression that some items simply do not sell. (Of course, [[Shelfwarmer|some don't anyway]], but that's beside the point.) With this much shorter sales window in mind, companies use redecos to keep molds in use longer (to help make back the money spent in development plus a worthwhile profit), and oftentimes keep popular characters still in circulation while maintaining a "fresh" look on the shelves, making the retailers happy. Retools have a much longer development lead time than redecos, even for small parts. It may not cost much more to give a reused mold a new robot mode head, but timing concerns may be the deciding factor in choosing to redeco the old one.<ref>[http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/showthread.php?t=11518 Hasbro Q&A at cybertron.ca]</ref>

Members of the [[Hasbro]] Transformers team have repeatedly pointed out that they never expected anyone to ''buy'' all the redecoes made; [[Aaron Archer]] was apparently baffled by the premise.

==Redecos as exclusives==
Most [[exclusive]] toys, be they for conventions<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/50ee7c561e688de7/50b5edb5139f83a1?lnk=st&&rnum=7&hl=en#50b5edb5139f83a1 Tengu explains why convention toys aren't new molds, alt.toys.transformers post archived on Google]</ref> or stores, are redecos and [[Retool|retools]] of previously-released toys. With just one exception, all exclusives that used previously-unreleased molds are toys that had been developed for normal retail but were temporarily in "limbo" when their intended toylines were ended. The one exception, [[Swerve (Chevy)|Aveo Swerve]], was a new mold produced for a gigantic multinational corporation.

The simple reason for this is, again, cost; making the steel molds is prohibitively expensive, as well as the engineering and so forth. Because most exclusives are produced in numbers far less than a normal retail toy, there are fewer units to amortize what production costs ''do'' remain, which means the toys must either sell for more to cover costs and make a worthwhile profit, or the profit margin per item must be reduced, or even both at once.

While it is certainly not outside the realm of possibility that a major retail chain might get a new-mold toy as an exclusive (as they can move thousands and thousands of units nationwide over several months), the odds of a convention getting one are almost nonexistent due to these cost considerations, as the production runs of these toys rarely reach far beyond 1000. At most, therefore, one can expect a few [[Retool|retools]] of select parts from a toy, often a new-mold robot mode head.

==Popular redeco themes==
[[Image:Bruticus redecos.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Not [[knockoff]]s.....]]
Redecos can be marketed either as the same [[character]] in different colors, or as a different character. For both versions, some recurring themes have been established between Hasbro and Takara.

*[[Black repaint|Black redecos]] - commonly used for "stealth" forms and evil clones.

*Clear redecos - sometimes inspired by specific character abilities or plots (such as ''Generation 1'' [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage's]] invisibility or [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] as a ghost).

*"Fire"-themed redecos - often representing a power-enhanced version of a character.

*Metallic redecos - particularly gold or silver [[vacuum metallizing|chromed]]. These are often used for [[Lucky Draw figure]]s.

*[[Homage]] redecos - designed to resemble a previous (often ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'') character. This is particularly prevalent with [[Constructicon (G1)|construction vehicles]] and [[Dinobot (G1)|dinosaurs]].

==Popular redeco characters==
Some redecos of toys of a certain character are frequently designed to be one or several certain other characters. Some of those different-character redeco themes are directly rooted in ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'', while others are indirectly inspired by ''Generation 1'', and still others are more recent additions to the Transformers lore. Some well-known examples include:
*[[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]] into [[Ultra Magnus (disambiguation)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]], [[Nemesis Prime (disambiguation)|Nemesis Prime]] and [[Motormaster (disambiguation)|Motormaster]]. Also, one Optimus into another, such as [[Optimus Primal]] into [[Primal Prime]], or Optimus Prime into his [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] equivalent.
*[[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatron]] into [[Galvatron (disambiguation)|Galvatron]].
*[[Soundwave (disambiguation)|Soundwave]] into [[Blaster (disambiguation)|Blaster]].
*[[Bumblebee (disambiguation)|Bumblebee]] into [[Cliffjumper (disambiguation)|Cliffjumper]], [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|usually]].
*[[Seeker (body-type)|The Seekers]] as redecos/[[retool]]s of each other.
*''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak/Silverstreak]] and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] as redecos/retools of each other.
*[[Ironhide (disambiguation)|Ironhide]] and [[Ratchet (disambiguation)|Ratchet]] as redecos/retools of each other. [[Live-action film series|Usually]].
*''Generation 1'' [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] as redecos/retools of each other.
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] [[Tigatron|into]] [[Cataclysm (BW)|various]] [[Ravage (G1)|other]] [[CatSCAN|cats]].

==See also==
*[[Repaint]]
*[[Retool]]
*[[Gang-molding]]
*[[Mold]]
*[[Paint operation]]

==Notes and References==
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[[Category:Toys]]

Sideswipe (Movie)

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:''Sideswipe is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Live-action film series|live-action film]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Revenge of the Fallen Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=400|Also known as "Stabby McWheelfeet".]]

'''Sideswipe''' is true to his function of Warrior. Though proficient with guns, he prefers melee combat to ranged weapons, and will employ any maneuver it takes to get close enough to the enemy to use his arm-mounted [[Cybertanium]] swords. His agile, wheel-legged form more than allows for this. His tactics are merciless and he's utterly unapologetic about this—war, after all, is ''messy''.

Oh, and he's also not vain at ''all'': those alt modes of his are chosen for speed only. It's a ''total coincidence'' that the fastest one just ''happens'' to be a sleek, sexy, concept model that's better than ''your'' car, honest! <ref>[[Revenge of the Fallen: The Movie Universe|Transformers: The Movie Universe]]</ref>

{{quote2|Damn, I'm good.|Sideswipe|[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]}}

==Fiction==
===IDW ''Transformers'' movie comics===
When Sideswipe joined the Autobots he trained under the veteran warrior [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]], learning the arts of war. After his training was complete, he went on to become the protector of a settlement of displaced Autobots. This settlement was found by the pitiless [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], who slaughtered them nearly to a bot. Sideswipe was ashamed, not only over having failed to protect his charges, but also because he had lived to tell the tale. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 2|Tales of the Fallen #2}}

[[File:Talesofthe Fallen2- Sideswipetraffic.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|Phew, lucky the artist didn't put anyone in those cars or Sidewipe would be a bit of a git here!]]

After [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]'s Autobots left [[Mission City]], they left a homing beacon in a junk yard near the metropolis to attract any Autobots who might have heard Prime's rallying call to [[Earth]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 3|Alliance #3}} Sideswipe was among those few that answered the beacon and arrived on the planet on the [[Wrecker]]s ship, the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]''. The ship and the Wreckers stayed behind in [[NASA]], {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}{{storylink|Dark of the Moon issue 3}} and had hidden themselves in the junk yard. Once discovered, they were brought to [[Diego Garcia]] to train with the other Autobots and [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]]'s soldiers in defense of their new home. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}} However, Sideswipe proved a loose cannon as he continued his vendetta against Demolishor when the Decepticon turned up in [[Montevideo]], [[Uruguay]]. Showing little regard for humans in pursuing his quarry, Sideswipe reached [[Ezeiza International Airport]], where his reckless actions caught up with him as Ironhide arrived on the scene to rein him in. The younger Autobot was openly insubordinate towards Ironhide, warning him not to get in the way. Ultimately all the old veteran could do was to serve as damage control during Sideswipe's singleminded pursuit into the city of [[Buenos Aires]]. Ultimately more reinforcements from [[NEST]] arrived, and Demolishor fled the scene. In the aftermath, Sideswipe saw the fear and mistrust the humans regarded him with because of his violent actions. Understanding this, he was forced to admit that Ironhide's admonishment of him was correct. {{storylink|Tales of the Fallen issue 2|Tales of the Fallen #2}}

Sideswipe didn't have long to wait for another shot at his nemesis. Soon enough, Demolishor had been sighted in [[Shanghai]], [[China]]. {{Storylink|Alliance issue 4|Alliance #4}}
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===Titan Comics ROTF comic===
{{bigquote|''Skids? Mudflap? Hhh.'' What have I ever done to deserve ''this''?|Sideswipe on his training position, [[Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune]]}}

[[File:Titan4 Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|"Look, you guys are the Jar Jar Binks of this franchise. There's ''always'' room for improvement."]]

Unlike most Autobots, Sideswipe—part of a younger generation built during wartime—was made to fight. He was born during the war and with full knowledge of the Cybertronian battlefield, designed solely for killing. He's master of the quick-change transformation! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.2|Sideswipe's profile}}

Sideswipe served as a combat instructor at NEST's Scottish base, and had to put [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] back through basic training—something he was fed up of. As far as he was concerned, they should've been put on charge for causing [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] to escape and he should have better things to do. He dealt with this by putting the twins through simulated combat after simulated combat, finally cracking it up to maximum setting, before [[Ravage (ROTF)|someone knocked him out]].

When he came to, the twins were babbling about how a mysterious and long-vanished Decepticon working for [[Soundwave (ROTF)|another mysterious Decepticon]] had done it and tried to kill them! Sideswipe was having none of it, viewing this as implausible and believing the twins knocked him out in revenge for training and were covering themselves. Between this and Grindor, he was becoming suspicious of them... {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.4|New Tricks}}

Following the training, poor Sideswipe took them to [[Diego Garcia]] and continued to be pestered by them for a meeting with Prime. Not trusting them and ignoring their babble about some "[[the Fallen|dude]]", he tried to discourage them, only for the two to sneak off behind his back. Sighing, he went in pursuit... and saw them distract Prime before a [[Scorponok (Movie)|Decepticon attacked]], Skids tripped over Prime before he could take charge, and Mudflap handed a weapon to [[Sideways (ROTF)|an escaping prisoner]]! When Optimus remarked that someone must've compromised security, Sideswipe fingered the twins: their actions clearly showed they were turncoats! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Reversal of Fortune}}

Sideswipe would be part of the team tracking down the twins {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.5|Outlaw Blues}}, and would later be surprised when they were tracked down to [[North Carolina]]... and were ''fighting'' two Decepticons? Why, if he didn't know better, he'd think they were fighting the two 'cons they'd helped! {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.7|Turnabout}}

After the Autobots tracked the twins to the Decepticon's base, it became clear they ''weren't'' traitors after all and ''had'' been framed. Did Sideswipe apologise? Hell no, he instead had a scary amount of fun slaughtering [[Purple generic drones|drones]] and had to be told off by Ironhide for excessive bloodlust. {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.8|Back-to-Back}}

[[File:Titan11 cleaningupHoist.jpg|left|upright=1.67|thumb|The Autobots, after some time in Glasgow.]]

Later, after [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|the twins turned out to have told the truth about this "Fallen" guy]], Sideswipe was with Ironhide cleaning up the remaining Decepticons on Earth, (rather worryingly) including ''[[Hoist (Movie)|Hoist!]].'' {{storylink|Transformers Comic issue 2.11|Spare Parts!}}

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===''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie===
{{voiceactor|[[André Sogliuzzo]] (English), [[Hisao Egawa]] (Japanese)|[[Salvador Reyes]] (Latin American-Spanish)}}

[[File:Sideswipe-ROTFdamnImgood.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.67|Damn, he's good... at killing [[Sideways (ROTF)|fleeing cowards]].]]

Sideswipe was one of the Autobots sent to [[Shanghai]] when Decepticon energy signatures were detected, but he was initially held in reserve. As [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] managed to flee from [[Arcee (Movie)|Arcee]] and [[Skids (ROTF)|the]] [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Twins]] in vehicle mode, [[William Lennox|Major Lennox]] ordered Sideswipe deployed. Sideswipe immediately sped in and quickly changed to robot mode. Catching up with Sideways by dexterously skating on his wheel-feet, Sideswipe somersaulted over the Decepticon, threw his right blade in the Decepticon's hood, and then dragged the blade in the opposite direction, tearing Sideways apart. Sideswipe took a moment to reflect on the success of his kill.

Afterwards, he returned with the other Autobots to [[NEST]]'s base in Diego Garcia, where he witnessed Director [[Theodore Galloway]] air the [[Barack Obama|President's]] concerns over the recent spate of Decepticon activity, and how the Autobots remaining on Earth might be the cause of it.

[[File:ROTF SideswipeatNJbase.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Sideswipe after he gets kicked out of [[Avengers|The Avengers]].]]
After the [[AllSpark|AllSpark shard]] was stolen by [[Ravage (ROTF)|Ravage]] from NEST's secured bunker and Decepticons were detected heading towards [[Sam Witwicky]] at [[Princeton University]], Sideswipe and the other Autobots were deployed to intercept, but arrived too late: [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] had died protecting the human boy from the resurrected [[Megatron (Movie)|Megatron]], [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]]. The Autobots and NEST arrived at a [[United States of America|United States]] air base to discover that they were no longer welcome, following renewed Decepticon aggression after Prime's death, and that they were ordered to return to Diego Garcia. The emotionally overwhelmed Autobots nearly came to blows with their former allies but finally agreed to stand down and remain on Earth to honor Optimus.

[[File:ROTF Sideswipe in Egypt.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|The "Where's Sideswipe?" series of books never really caught on.]]
When Major Lennox learned Witwicky had come up with a way to possibly resurrect Optimus Prime, NEST travelled to [[Egypt]] instead. Sideswipe, who had been covered in a cargo net while being transported in vehicle mode, relished the chance to cut through his bonds when deployed from the air. He was then sent with a group of soldiers to provide fire against the approaching Decepticons to cover for Ironhide and Arcees teams' attempts to find Sam. He, along with Ratchet and Jolt, stayed with the rest of NEST and fought off many Decepticons during [[Operation: Firestorm]]. He himself spotted Sam making his way towards them, though announcing so left him open to be blasted in the back. He later bore witness to Sam resurrecting Optimus Prime with the [[Matrix of Leadership]], the death of [[The Fallen]] and the destruction of the Star Harvester. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen}}
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===Toy bios===
Before the war, Sideswipe was a major competitor in the [[gladiatorial combat|gladiatorial games]]. Years of training made him a master at fencing, something he viewed as an art to be celebrated through battle. When war broke out, he was sickened by the Decepticon's slaughter and vowed to use his fencing skills to defend the innocent. {{storylink|#Robot Replicas|Robot Replica Sideswipe}} Before he enlisted with the Autobots, Sideswipe traveled the galaxy in search of the most proficient warriors and devastating martial arts he could find, leading to him becoming an Autobot combat instructor.<ref>[http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/Battle-Bios.cfm Hasbro Sideswipe Battle Bio]</ref> He also teaches Mudflap everything he needs to know about defensive driving. {{storylink|#Deluxe Class Toys|Strike Mission Sideswipe}} He's such a hardcore master of [[Metallikato]], he dismisses [[Bludgeon (ROTF)|Bludgeon]] as a master because of his reliance on guns.<ref>Bludgeon's Battle Bio</ref>

He's also a raw, untrained guy! Used to battling alone, he was given over to [[Robert Epps]] to be trained as a team player. The two have become good friends, and Sideswipe is now more dangerous than ever. {{storylink|#Human Alliance|Sideswipe / Tech. Sergeant Epps}}

When the [[Hooligan (G2)|hooligan]] [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]] gained new powers and threatened Earth, Sideswipe was dispatched with Mudflap to take the giant Decepticon down. {{storylink|The Fury of Fearswoop}}

[[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] has recently convinced him to use guns again. As it turns out, they'll be perfect against his enemy [[Axor]]. (Gonna apologise to Bludgeon now, Sideswipe?) {{storylink|#Transformers (2010)|Sidearm Sideswipe}}

He also prides himself as a good driver, but he admits that he's not as good as [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]]. Her instinctive driving ability is so silky smooth that it allows Sideswipe to focus purely on his blades. {{storylink|#Human Alliance 2|Sideswipe / Mikaela Banes}}

===Cyber Missions===
{{voiceactor|[[Bronco D. Jackson]] (English)|[[Milton Wolch]] (Latin American-Spanish)}}

[[File:Sideswipe twin-pistols.JPG‎|thumb|upright=1.67|Trading swords for guns? He's Bizzaro-[[Drift (G1)|Drift]]!]]
Tracking Megatron to a disused factory with Optimus, Sideswipe complained about the dust until Optimus told him to be quiet. Optimus's scans turned up nothing, but Megatron soon revealed himself, batting Sideswipe aside. The young Autobot quickly recovered and joined Megatron in sword combat, even stabbing the Decepticon leader in the foot mid-sentence. Megatron subsequently brought the roof down on the two Autobots and escaped, though neither Autobot was harmed. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 4}}

Later, Sideswipe was pursuing [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and [[Frenzy (Movie)|Frenzy]] in [[Scramble City (city)|Scramble City]], and took a turn to let the Decepticons think they had lost him, in truth following them to the facility they were heading for. After crumpling Frenzy into a ball and batting him back at Barricade, Sideswipe engaged the larger Decepticon, but was stopped with fire suppression equipment that froze him to the databanks. As the Decepticons were able to escape, Sideswipe broke free and learned that they had stolen NEST's defense deactivation codes. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 6}}

Soon after, he was able to discover a wounded Ratchet back in [[Mission City]] and took him back to [[Diego Garcia]] to be repaired. While Ratchet was getting fixed up, Sideswipe traded in his shattered blades for new blasters. While they did that, [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] arrived and threatened Sideswipe during target practice. Apparently, he had enough- he was able to shoot the [[Electromagnetic pulse|EMP blaster]] off Lockdown's wrist and back to Ratchet, who was fully operational. Lockdown, now without a blaster weapon, pushed Sideswipe aside and fled, much to Sideswipe's dismay, but Ratchet assured him that he was headed straight for the medical bay. There, he saw an out-cold Lockdown laying on an operating table, all the while stating he couldn't look. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 7}}

Sideswipe and Ratchet were transporting some energon to a secure location when they were attacked by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] and [[Mindwipe (ROTF)|Mindwipe]]. Mindwipe assaulted them with his hypnotic powers, but at Ratchet's suggestion, Sideswipe used his satellite radio to play some loud music, breaking Mindwipe's concentration. The Autobot turned on Starscream, yelling at Ratchet to secure the energon, but as Ratchet pointed out, Starscream was a bit more formidable than Sideswipe had counted on. As Starscream was on the verge of dismantling Sideswipe, Ratchet threw the energon trailer from the nearest cliff, and Starscream broke off his attack. In the aftermath, Ratchet and Sideswipe went to find somewhere safe to hide from the enraged Decepticon. {{storylink|Cyber Missions 10}}

Optimus later requested backup to help fight Megatron and Starscream in the Arctic Circle. Sideswipe, Ratchet, Ironhide,and Bumblebee arrived to help their leader, and all four fought Starscream. The Decepticon was swiftly defeated by the Autobots, but Optimus allowed Megatron and Starscream to flee.
{{storylink|Cyber Missions 12}}

Optimus later laid a trap for a final confrontation against Megatron, and had a hologram of the imprisoned Soundwave as bait. Megatron tried to retrieve his soldier, but the image shifted to a hologram of Sideswipe. Sideswipe calmly taunted the Decepticon leader as he swiped at the illusion, but Sideswipe did not take part in the ensuing battle.
{{storylink|Decepticons Attack}}

===IDW post ''Revenge of the Fallen'' comics===
When [[Alice]] stole an RV and went on a rampage, Sideswipe was part of the NEST team sent to stop her. She attempted to ram the NEST roadblock, but Sideswipe decided to ram her first, and impaled her through the front windscreen. He was later seen carrying the RV over his head. He observed [[Ratchet (Movie)|Ratchet]] examining Alice's corpse, and wondered why any Cybertronian would stoop to taking on the appearance of a [[human|lesser life form]]. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 1|Nefarious #1}} He was sent with Ironhide to stop a Decepticon trio. Ironhide warned him not to get cocky, but Sideswipe merely responded that he really ''was'' that good, before chopping [[Brakedown (ROTF)|Brakedown]] in half. He was ready to finish off the apparently-surrendering [[Dirt Boss (ROTF)|Dirt Boss]] as well, but the surrender was just a ruse to allow [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] time to attack, and Sideswipe was caught in the explosion. He survived to see [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] swoop in and capture Soundwave. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 2|Nefarious #2}}

Sideswipe helped prepare a nuclear shelter in [[Odessa]], [[Texas]] to house Soundwave. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 3|Nefarious #3}} When Soundwave led them to the location of the [[Initiative base]] and it wasn't there, Sideswipe wondered why Optimus continued to trust the Decepticon. Soundwave traced the [[Initiative]] to [[Oregon]], and the Autobots went there to launch an attack. Ratchet suggested Sideswipe stay behind him to avoid damage, but Sideswipe scoffed at the very idea. However the Autobots found themselves facing brainwashed Transformers, and Sideswipe even recognized one as [[Armorhide (Movie)|Armorhide]]. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 5|Nefarious #5}} Optimus sent Sideswipe, [[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] to help [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]'s team. They briefly found themselves under a new kind of attack when [[Carter Newell]] tried to use a duplicate [[AllSpark]] to destroy Cybertronian life. The Autobots ultimately triumphed. {{storylink|Nefarious issue 6|Nefarious #6}}

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===Transformers Annual 2011===
When Decepticon activity was detected in [[Tokyo]], Sideswipe headed there with Optimus, Ironhide and Ratchet. He was the first to spot [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]] and wrestled with the Decepticon until Optimus intervened. The arrival of [[Grindor (ROTF)|Grindor]] sent Sideswipe scrambling for cover, but he and Ratchet subsequently covered Optimus, as their leader took Grindor down. {{storylink|Sam in Danger}}
===''Unite for the Universe''===
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===''Dark of the Moon'' film===
{{voiceactor|[[James Remar]] (English), [[Hisao Egawa]] (Japanese)|[[José Luis Orozco]] (Latin American Spanish)}}

[[File:DOTM SideswipeStealthForce.jpg|left|upright=1.67|thumb|Note to self, never solve a Rubix Cube while in Stealth Mode.]]
In the three years since Operation:Firestorm and the demise of The Fallen, Decepticon activity was reduced to an all time minimal. The Autobots now assisted their allies in dealing with human problems around the globe. Sideswipe accompanied [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] as well new comers [[Mirage (Movie)|Dino]] and [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Que]] on a mission to an illegal nuclear power plant in the Middle East to destroy it.

Upon returning to base, he was called in for a weapons inspection in bay 37 and watched as Optimus explained the importance of going to the long-lost Autobot ship, the ''[[Ark (DOTM)|Ark]]'' on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]]. Later, after the former Autobot leader [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Sentinel Prime]] was retrieved from the moon and reactivated, Sideswipe observed his explanation of how his pillars were key to controlling the Space Bridge, a teleportation device Sentinel had designed that was crucial to the Autobot war effort.

[[File:Dotm-sideswipe-escapewithdignity-1-.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|Does anybody else think we should have hats for this standoff?]]
Sideswipe and Dino joined Bumblebee, [[Sam Witwicky]], [[Seymour Simmons]] and [[Dutch (DOTM)|Dutch]] in following up on a lead to explain why humans were being killed by Decepticons. After the humans determined that the Decepticons were targeting Sentinel for his ability to control the Space Bridge, Sideswipe helped to escort the ancient Autobot back to base. Along the way Sideswipe helped fend off the [[Dread (DOTM)|Dreads]] coming to capture Sentinel on a highway in [[Washington, D.C.]], using his [[Stealth Force]] mode to help in attack down [[Hatchet]]. After he and Bee fired on Hatchet, Dino finished the con off. Nearing the NEST facility, Sideswipe ordered Dino to return to base while he distracted the Dreads. Then he and Ironhide subsequently confronted the remaining Dreads, [[Crankcase (DOTM)|Crankcase]] and [[Crowbar]], forcing the Decepticons to drop their weapons after a "Mexican standoff". However, the two Decepticons attacked the Autobots with hidden spears, injuring Ironhide in the process. Sideswipe managed to avoid damage by cutting the spear thrown at him in half with a back flip, using the movement to kick one of his blaster to Ironhide. The veteran Autobot then used the gun to kill Crowbar. Sideswipe engaged Crankcase but was knocked down by the con, who in turn was taken down by Ironhide with a spear to the face and being tossed into a building with Ironhide telling Sideswipe that class was "dismissed".

Sideswipe and the Autobots arrived back at the NEST base to help set up a defensive position around the base. However Sentinel Prime betrayed the Autobots, killed Ironhide during his and Dino's absence and stole the Space Bridge Pillars, telling them that he made a deal with Megatron.

Sideswipe and the other Autobots were forced to leave Earth when the turncoat Sentinel Prime coerced the human governments to exile their protectors. As it was leaving Earth's atmosphere, the Autobot's ship, the ''[[Xantium (DOTM)|Xantium]]'', was destroyed by [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]], and Sideswipe was presumably killed along with his fellow Autobots. However, knowing that Sentinel and the Decepticons wouldn't honor their promise that humanity would not be harmed, the Autobots hid themselves into the boosters of their ship, and safely splashed down to Earth before the ship was destroyed. Sideswipe and the Autobots rejoined their human allies from NEST and Sam Witwicky on the outskirts of Decepticon-controlled Chicago, now the center stage for Sentinel Prime and Megatron's plan to bring [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to Earth.

[[File:DOTM Autobotsattack.jpg|left|upright=1.67|thumb|"Autobots attack!" "Who put you in charge?"]]
Sideswipe helped plan the Autobots' assault against the Decepticons, ordering Ratchet to cover high. The nine Autobots and their human companions made their way for the Pillar but were ambushed and forced into a building by a [[Driller]] controlled by [[Shockwave (Movie)|Shockwave]]. Once inside he told Que to roll out already as he was giving the humans new toys. He and the Autobot's provided a distraction to allow the humans to get away.

Soon, five Autobots were captured by Decepticons commanded by [[Soundwave (ROTF)|Soundwave]] and [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]. As Sideswipe struggled against his captors, the human traitor [[Dylan Gould]] convinced Soundwave to execute the Autobots, starting with Que. Sideswipe and the others would have suffered the same fate as the Autobot scientist if not for the timely intervention of [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] and [[Brains]], whose commandeered Decepticon mothership rained down [[Orbital Assault Carrier|fighters]] on Soundwave's forces, allowing the Autobots to turn the tables and destroy their captors. Freed, Sideswipe led his comrades as they took the fight to the Decepticons and helped Optimus Prime against the traitorous Sentinel Prime. Eventually, the control pillar activating the space bridge was destroyed and, in the ensuing chaos, the Decepticon forces in the sky were dragged into the abyss created by Cybertron's destruction. Now, with Earth truly their home, Sideswipe stood triumphantly with his battle-worn comrades at the battle's end. {{storylink|Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon}}

===''Age of Extinction'' Topps Europe collector cards===
Sometime after the battle of Chicago, Sideswipe was hunted down and killed by [[Cemetery Wind]]. Optimus Prime and the reunited Autobots later learned of his death via the KSI Drone, and mourned him.

==Games==
===Transformers: The Game (PSP)===
[[File:Sideswipe movie psp.jpg|upright=0.95|thumb]]
:''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Tatasciore]]

Sideswipe arrived on [[Earth]] some time after [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]] and his team, apparently at the same time as [[Wheeljack (Movie)|Wheeljack]] and [[Hoist (Movie)|Hoist]]. He accompanied the other Autobots on their mission to [[Hoover Dam]], and was seen escaping the complex when the [[Decepticon]]s attacked. {{storylink|Transformers The Game (PSP)|Transformers The Game}}

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===''Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen'' - The Game===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Nolan North]] (English)
[[File:ROTF 360PS3PC Sideswipe DLC.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Silver or red, yer dead.]]
====Xbox 360/Sony PS3/PC====

{{Note|Sideswipe was absent from the released game, but on [[August 27]], [[2009]], was made available as a playable character (for multiplayer games) as optional downloadable content for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3 owners. The pack also included a red alternate colour scheme for Sideswipe, as a homage to his [[Sideswipe (G1)|Generation 1 counterpart]].}}
{{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Xbox 360/PS3/PC)}}
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====PSP====
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===Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: Autobots/Decepticons===
{{note| Sideswipe is one of several Autobots that can be played with during the campaign mode of the game, and thus has no real story of his own apart from the events mentioned below.}}

=====Autobot campaign=====
Sideswipe managed to get ambushed by the Decepticon forces during the battle in Shanghai, and the Autobots had to move out to save their comrade, leaving the AllSpark fragment in the Decepticons' hands. {{storylink|Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen: Autobots/Decepticons|Revenge of the Fallen: Autobots/Decepticons}}

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===''Transformers: Dark of the Moon - The Game''===
:''Voice actor:'' [[Fred Tatasciore]]

====(Xbox 360/PS3)====

{{Note|Sideswipe was absent from the released game, but on [[July 19]], [[2011]], was made available as a playable character (for multiplayer games) as optional downloadable content for Xbox 360 and Sony Playstation 3 owners.}}

Three years after the Fallen's defeat, Sideswipe provided backup with Optimus for Bumblebee after the yellow Autobot inserted a virus in the Decepticon transmissions. Sideswipe went on a mission to investigate Decepticon activity in Central America afterwards and got captured. Later, Mirage and Bumblebee came and rescued him only to be informed that Starscream was trying to launch a ship in the area. Sideswipe assisted the Autobots (not really) in fighting off Starscream but failed to prevent the ship from launching.

Sideswipe is available in multiplayer to those who pre-ordered from GameStop or downloaded his DLC. He has the Scoped Burst rifle as his primary and blade spin as his special ability. He is the fastest character in robot mode and has a noticeably quieter turbo boost than any other character.

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===''Cyberverse Battle Builder''===
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===''Transformers: The Ride – 3D''===
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Sideswipe provided backup for the rookie, [[Evac (Ride)|Evac]]. He fought off the Decepticon, [[Bonecrusher (Movie)|Bonecrusher]], long enough for Evac to give the Decepticon a head-shot and kill him. He was last seen being sucked into [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator's]] vortex, so his ultimate fate is unknown. {{storylink|Transformers: The Ride – 3D}}

==Toys==
===''Revenge of the Fallen''===
====Legends Class toys====
[[File:ROTF-toy SideswipeLegends.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Hey! I have real feet now!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Legends, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''EZ-06'''

: [[Legends Class]] Sideswipe transforms into a tiny Corvette Stingray concept car. As a Legends toy, he features a simplified transformation sequence that results in swords that consist entirely of door [[kibble]] and barely-noticeable reliefs of his wheel-feet.

:This toy was [[redeco]]ed into ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/LegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy SideswipeFoF.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|[[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] as his partner... Screwed, or not screwed?]]
*'''The Fury of Fearswoop''' (Figure multi-pack, 2009)

:A "battle damaged" deco version of Legends Sideswipe was available in the [[Walmart]]-exclusive "[[The Fury of Fearswoop]]" 3-pack together with a similarly "battle damaged" version of Legends [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] and Deluxe class [[Fearswoop (ROTF)|Fearswoop]]. That the set uses a pair of Legends-class cars and a Deluxe-class jet means the toys are in a roughly-correct scale to each other... which is borked by the story, in which Fearswoop is supposedly much huger than normal thanks to some unnamed mystic artifact.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/WMLegSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on "Fury of Fearswoop" Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF-toy Legends BluesteelSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Was the painter sleeping at the controls?!]]
*'''Bluesteel Sideswipe''' (Legends, 2010)

:"Bluesteel" Sideswipe is a metallic blue redeco of Legends Sideswipe, also featuring some minor detail changes, including finally painting his fake wheel-feet to make them stand out.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/LegBluesteelSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Bluesteel Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:ROTFSideswipe 2009 Deluxe.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|His heroes are [[Tigatron]] and [[wikipedia:Edward Scissorhands|Edward Scissorhands]].]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-04'''

:Sideswipe transforms into a silver Corvette Stingray concept car. In this mode, he sits so low that it's difficult to roll him without scraping his undercarriage, unless you perform some careful shaping after transforming him. Sideswipe's [[Mech Alive]] gimmick is in his knees—bending his legs causes the blue armor plates on his knees to extend. He does have wheels in his feet like his character model, but the toy's feet have been designed in such a way that it can stand alone. Rounding out his robot-mode awesomeness, his hips have an "invisible joint" and moving pistons, while his "blades" are geared to spin out in unison. He is ''totally awesome''.

:Sideswipe's instructions aren't clear as to how his torso is supposed to connect with his chest in robot mode. The torso piece has a square peg on top of it and there is a corresponding square hole between the two screws holding the front of his chest together. Getting his torso section in front of his arm struts can be a somewhat snug fit.

:This mold was [[retool]]ed into ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]].

:During part of 2010, [http://www.hasbro.com/transformers/en_US/discover/transformers-toy-giveaway.cfm Hasbro did a promotion] wherein US fans could receive three free Deluxes in exchange for receipts showing the purchase of $25 or more of select Transformers product. As noted in [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=69645&st=0 this thread over at Allspark.com], and later confirmed by [http://web.archive.org/web/20110221171904/http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HT83971G3 this listing here], Sideswipe was one of a pool of eight figures (all from the same wave) from which the free Deluxes were drawn, with several people having noted receiving him.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Sideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:ROTF Deluxe StrikeMissionSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"Well basically, I just copied the Sideswipe we have now. And this racing stripe here I feel is pretty sharp."]]
*'''Strike Mission Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2010)

:This redeco of Sideswipe features red translucent windows, a large black racing stripe running down the center of the car and fading black stripes on the doors. Like many Autobots in the NEST Global Alliance ''Revenge of the Fallen'' toyline refresh, he features a version of the NEST logo [[tampograph]]ed on him.

:This deco is also the basis for the [[Gravity Bot]]s [[#GravityNitro|"Nitro" Sideswipe toy]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/Sideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Strike Mission Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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====Human Alliance====
[[File:ROTF HumanAlliance Sideswipe Epps.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Training with Sergeant Epps really beefed him up!]]
*'''Sideswipe / Tech. Sergeant Epps''' (Human Alliance, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''RA-22'''
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:Like all [[Human Alliance]] figures, Sideswipe is designed to allow his accompanying human figure, in this case [[Robert Epps]], to ride inside.

:While in many ways simply a larger version of the Deluxe toy, it has several changes. The wheeled feet may now fold out into a stand system, allowing Sideswipe to stand without having to balance on the wheels, or be left as is to retain a more rounded look, and his blades are now rubberized to prevent injury and damage, as the blades lay flat underneath in vehicle mode. The sword-hands can also be slotted into a gear system connected to the front wheels, which causes them to spin as the wheels are turned. The passenger's seat may either be used as a seat for Epps, or turned into a missile launcher slung over Sideswipe's left shoulder.

:Like the Deluxe figure, the HA Sideswipe is something of a [[shellformer]] and suffers from an excessive amount of [[kibble]], as nearly the entire top of the vehicle mode is folded up into a backpack, with only the rear bumper being incorporated as Sideswipe's chest. Partly as the reason, it is also quite hard for him to be able to stand up, as his thigh joints are tight and the rubber tubing on his thighs can get quite tense during posing, constantly wanting to reset his torso to tilt back up and as well as wanting his legs to be straight, thus overbalancing him and making him fall on his backpack.

:A great deal goes unmentioned in the instructions: in addition to the seats behind Sideswipe's shoulders, there are pegs on both forearms that a Human Alliance human figure can stand on or have plugged into their back, but neither are accomplished very well; the pegs also interfere with free rolling in vehicle mode, scraping on the ground. There is a fold-out handle under the swiveling rear window section, which seems to serve no purpose; it's possible to fold this section over Sideswipe's head (and, by extension, any human figure sitting behind his right shoulder), but the handle is only reached if the human figure has its left arm raised straight up and the seat is in just the right position. There are also small tabs that fold out of Sideswipe's waist to make him more movie-accurate. The small turret on his right shoulder can be slid upwards slightly, allowing it to clear the shoulder much better. Sideswipe also has an extra hinge near either thigh swivel that is completely hindered by the rubber tubing on his legs. Finally, Sideswipe has a battle mask; or rather, his normal head '''is''' his battle mask. A thin sliver in the middle of his face flips back to reveal his "real" face. It looks... odd. It's probably best to leave the thing down and never speak of this feature.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/HASideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Human Alliance Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

====Fast Action Battlers====
[[File:Sideswipe ROTF FAB toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Has anyone seen my proportions?]]
*'''Battle Blade Sideswipe''' (Fast Action Battler, 2009)
: This roughly Deluxe-sized version of Sideswipe is a kid-friendly version with a simpler transformation, transforming from a Corvette Stingray car to a simplified version of his robot mode presented in the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' movie. His main [[gimmick]] is his spring-loaded arm-blades which automatically swing down when pulled upward.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/FABSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Battle Blade Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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*'''Night Blades Sideswipe''' (Fast Action Battler, 2010)
[[File:ROTF-toy FAB NightBladesSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Haven't found my proportions yet, but look at this cool deco I found!]]

: This [[redeco]] of Battle Blade Sideswipe colors his car mode dark gray and light green. His robot-mode bits remain silver.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/FABSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Night Blades Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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====Battle Chargers====
[[File:ROTFSideswipe BattleChargers 2009.jpg|upright=1.67|thumb|He secretly envies the original [[Battlecharger]]s for having better feet.]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Battle Charger, 2009)

:Part of the [[Robot Powered Machines]] subline, Battle Charger Sideswipe is a cutesified Corvette Stingray with a [[pull-back motor]]. When pulled back and let go, his roof flips open and his robot mode pops out.

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[[File:ROTFHyperSpeedSideswipeBattlecharger.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Hyper Speed Sideswipe''' (Battle Charger, 2009)

:Hyper Speed Sideswipe is a redeco of Battle Charger Sideswipe with black details here and there and his name stenciled on his windshield.
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====Gravity Bots====
[[File:ROTF-toy SideswipeGravity.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Before he joined the army, Sideswipe was picked on a lot for his "mass problem".]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Gravity Bot, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''GB-04'''

: Part of the second wave of [[Gravity Bot]]s, Sideswipe uses gravity-activated [[autotransformation]] to turn into a [[super deformed]] Corvette Stingray when laid on his back. When the car is stood back up, it returns to its boxy robot mode.

: The toy features no [[articulation]] whatsoever, but that doesn't matter because he's awesome.

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[[File:ROTF-toy GravityBots NitroSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|They were all "he trans''fats'' and ''rolls'' out!" this, "''pie''swipe!" that...]]
*'''Nitro Sideswipe''' (Gravity Bot, 2010)

: A [[redeco]] of regular Gravity Bot Sideswipe, Nitro Sideswipe features maroon windows and black stripes and wheels, very similar to the [[size class|Deluxe Class]] [[#StrikeMission|"Strike Mission" Sideswipe toy]]. He of course retains the same awesome play feature.

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====Robot Replicas====
[[File:ROTF-toy RobotReplicas Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|I haven't sliced anyone up in awhile, I gots the Blue Blades!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Robot Replicas, 2009)
:Robot Replicas Sideswipe is a non- transforming, but highly detailed and articulated interpretation of his robot mode from the movie. He features highly posable legs, arms, feet, head, waist, neck and shoulders, making him both an awesome kid's toy and display piece.
:Funnily enough, despite the Robot Replica promise of total movie-accuracy, his arm-blades are [[For safety reasons|considerably shortened]] and are a weird metallic blue colour, rather than the silver/gray you might expect.

:Sadly, his "Wheel feet" do not roll, making Sideswipe somewhat immobilized.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/RRSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Robot Replicas Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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====Power Bots====
[[File:ROTF-toy PowerBots Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Crikey!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Power Bots, 2009)

: [[Power Bots]] Sideswipe is a bulky, non-transforming toy for younger children. He features limited articulation in his limbs and head, two very blunt swords, and various playing sound clips and flashing lights. He has an North Americanised [[Australia]]n accent!

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/PBSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Power Bots Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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===Transformers (2010)===
====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:TF2010 Deluxe SidearmSideswipe toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Sideswipe, just after [[Tales of the Fallen issue 2|that incident in Buenos Aires.]]]]
*'''Sidearm Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2010)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''AA-06'''
**''Accessories:'' Two flare launchers

:''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' Sideswipe is a new sculpt designed for greater robot mode accuracy compared to his original Deluxe Class mold, and replaces his swords with twin hand-held flare launcher pistols (which were briefly used during the Egypt battle in ''Revenge of the Fallen''). Sideswipe now has toe and heel spurs so that he can balance on a flat surface without falling over, a problem that the previous Deluxe Sideswipe suffered. Both the black and silver molded "springs" on his lower legs are compatible with any weaponry using [[C joint|3mm clips]]. Additionally, the guns can be attached to flip-up panels and swung out in vehicle mode to form an [[attack mode]] of sorts, or they can swivel back while in this configuration to store on his back in either mode. Interestingly, despite the fact that his hands are specifically sculpted with grooves to accommodate his launchers, Sideswipe is also capable of wielding [[5mm post]]s.

[[File:AutobotAlliance Deluxe SidearmSideswipe.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.67|Cue the ''James Bond'' [[theme song|theme]].]]

:Hasbro added a red deco design to the front of the car and red windows in an effort to differentiate him from the previous Sideswipe molds. [[Stock photography|Stock photos]] on the back package and instructions show the front deco extending to the side panels, giving it a flame appearance. The Japanese [[TakaraTomy]] release of Sidearm Sideswipe drops red flame details in favour of keeping the silver paint on his wheels, which Hasbro dropped due to budgetary reasons. This release also changed the windows from red to a dark purple, for a more screen accurate appearance.

:His head's [[light-piping]] is sculpted out of the same red plastic as his windows, but his eyes are painted blue. Oddly, Hasbro's stock photos show him with only one eye painted.

:Sidearm Sideswipe was also on the receiving end of a late retool, closing off the tops of the hip balljoint sockets, severely limiting his outward leg motion. There is a perfect outline where the change was made which one can use as a cutting guide if so inclined. This change was likely made to reduce stress on the rubber tubing connected to his thighs.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/SidearmSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Sidearm Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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[[File:HFTD huntersrumble sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Damn cat walked on my hood again...]]
*'''Hunters Rumble''' (Target Figure 2-pack, 2010)

:This [[Target]]-exclusive bundle includes redecos of ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe-class Sideswipe and ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Deluxe-class Interrogator [[Barricade (Movie)|Barricade]]. This may be a reference to their meeting in "[[Cyber Missions 6]]".

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/TargetSideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Hunters Rumble Sideswipe at TFU.info]''

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====Human Alliance====
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[[File:TF2010 Human Alliance Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"We're totally buddies who worked together in the film!" "We certainly are, Sideways!"]]
*'''Shadow Blade Sideswipe w/ Mikaela Banes''' (Human Alliance, 2010)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:''Shadow Blade Sideswipe'' is a redeco of the first Human Alliance Sideswipe in black, with silver stripes, tan robot details and deep blue windows. His human partner is a new mold of [[Mikaela Banes]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2010/Autobot/HASideswipe/sideswipe.htm More information on Shadow Blade Sideswipe at TFU.info]''
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===Dark of the Moon===
====Cyberverse====
[[File:DOTM Cyberverse Sideswipe toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|BEEFCAAAAAAAAKE.]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Cyberverse Legion, 2011)
**''Series:'' '''1'''
**''Number:'' '''006'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''CV09'''

:''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' [[Cyberverse]] Sideswipe is a new mold based on his open-top Stingray concept vehicle. He is more [[show-accuracy|screen accurate]] in basic robot mode proportions than the ''Revenge of the Fallen'' [[Legends Class]] Sideswipe. The plastic between his head and the [[Autobot]] insignia is darker than in the [[stock photography]]. Like the rest of his DOTM product, and unlike the stock photography, he is entirely dull, unpainted grey plastic.

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[[File:DOTMUGCVLSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Caramel candy cane.]]
*'''Ultimate Gift Set''' (Cyberverse multi-pack, 2011)
:A redeco of the mold above.

:He comes in a [[Walmart]]-[[exclusive]] 5-pack with redecos of [[Optimus Prime (Movie)/toys#Ultimategift|Optimus Prime]], [[Powerglide (DOTM)#Ultimategift|Powerglide]], [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Ultimategift|Bumblebee]], and [[Crowbar#Ultimategift|Crowbar]].

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====Deluxe Class toys====
[[File:DOTM MechTechDeluxe Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|No floorboards; I'm a Flintstones car!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (MechTech Deluxe, 2011)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''DA08'''
**''Accessories:'' MechTech Blaster/[[Cybertanium]] Sword

:Part of the second wave of ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)|Dark of the Moon]]'' ''[[MechTech]]'' Deluxe Class toys, this version of Sideswipe is an all new tooling, with a different transformation scheme compared to the previous Deluxe versions of the character. Sideswipe changes into a Corvette Stingray concept convertible in a light grey/beige color scheme and open top. The interior is highly detailed, with seats, dashboard and steering wheel all molded into the compartment, though it's missing its floorboards. The box art and the instructions can't seem to agree which way the tail lights (which are his toe/heel spurs) are supposed to point in robot mode - the stock photo used on the card and main instruction image show them pointing forward, while the instructions themselves indicate they should point backward, implying it is probably the correct way. His arm blades are now a single piece, rather than the two piece blades from previous molds.

:Underneath the front hood (which ends up on his back) is some sculpted, unpainted faux-[[kibble]] in the form of four circles in a row, which are meant to represent the four exhaust pipes on the back of the vehicle, which usually end up on his back in robot mode. The ''actual'' pipes still end up on his back. They're just near his waist.

:Sideswipe's MechTech weapon, a large blaster, can convert to a runed Cybertanium sword with the press of a button. The weapon can be stored in any of the three MechTech ports in either mode, all of which include the spring-loaded filler piece to hide them when not in use. While the box art shows the blade of the flip-out sword painted blue with white [[Cybertronix]] runes, the final version opts for bare gunmetal plastic instead.

:The figure suffers from a small design flaw in that the front hood of the car is attached by such tiny pegs that it pops off quite easily.

:This mold was [[retool]]ed into [[Darksteel (DOTM)|Darksteel]].

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[[File:DOTM Deluxe Scan Sideswipe toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"How can I stab things if my blades keep disappearing like that!?"]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2011)

:This redeco of Deluxe class ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Sideswipe is [[exclusive]] to [[Toys"R"Us]]' Mission Earth: The Scan Series, to represent him [[trans-scan]]ning his vehicle mode. As such, nearly all of his vehicle mode parts (and thus, most of his robot mode) are cast in translucent clear plastic, with the rear of his vehicle mode being left unpainted, the middle having painted scan lines, and the front having a heavy amount of [[paint operation]]s in order to cover the clear plastic.
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[[File:DOTM Deluxe Walmart Sideswipe toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|After much consideration, Sideswipe finally decided to join the X-Men.]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Two flare launchers

: This version of Sideswipe is a [[Walmart]]-exclusive redeco of Sidearm Sideswipe. Featuring a new racing-themed deco, he is one of the most fanwank-filled mass released toys ever, featuring a small [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] [[:File:Transtech Autobot symbol.png|Autobot symbol]] on the rear fenders, an endorsement of "[[Lithone (planet)|Lithonian Drivetrain]]" on the front fenders, another for "[[Maccadam's Old Oil House|Maccadam's]]" on his trunk, one further logo that for "[[Sunstreaker (disambiguation)|Sun bro]]", another ad for "[[Axalon (BW)|Axalon]] [[Rattrap (BW)|Rattraps]]" (with the slogan "Safe. Humane. Yeah, right!" underneath), and finally the number 04, a nod to [[Sideswipe (G1)|the original Sideswipe's]] [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]]. Oh, and he's particularly [[Sideswipe (G1)#Generation 2 2|blue and yellow]].

: Sideswipe's stock photos are slightly different from the final product, rendering his 04 in a different, non-italicized font and the front portion of the car mode having a strange faint checkerboard pattern painted on.

: He also looks not unlike ''[[Speed Stars]]'' [[Bluestreak (Speed Stars)|Bluestreak]].

: He was made available the UK as a Sainsbury's exclusive, and in Australia and New Zealand as a [[Kmart]] exclusive.
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====Human Alliance====
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[[File:DOTM FlashFreezeAssault toys.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"Right, here's the plan, buddy: I'll go fight the giant killer alien robot, and you... what ''do'' you do, anyway?"]]
*'''Flash Freeze Assault''' (Human Alliance multi-pack, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' Missile

:The Sideswipe included in this multi-pack is a redeco of Human Alliance Sideswipe in gray, black and green with white and black decorative stripes. He comes with a redeco of Human Alliance [[Icepick (PCC)|Icepick]] and the human figure [[Sergeant Chaos]], who is shown riding Sideswipe in stock photos despite being evil Icepick's partner. It also shows Sideswipe holding Icepick in his weapon mode, with a legally-cautious sticker saying "SIDESWIPE '''CANNOT''' HOLD WEAPON" at the back, as Sideswipe's Human Alliance mold isn't designed to and cannot hold MechTech [[5mm post|post]]s.

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====Robo Power====
=====Go-Bots=====
[[File:DOTM Go-Bots Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|wen i grow up i wanna be an astwonaut!!!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2011)
A simple cute toy of Sideswipe with oversized wheels aimed at young children. It transforms from a cute Corvette into and equally cute deformed robot.

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===Age of Extinction===
[[File:AOEPlatinumSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66]]
*'''Optimus Prime with Trailer and Sideswipe''' (2014)
A metallic redeco of Swerve (Itself a retool of the Deluxe Sideswipe), presumbly as homage to [[Sideswipe (G1)|G1 Sideswipe]] It was released alongside the Platinum Edition Optimus Prime.

He is really badly mis-transformed in the stock image.
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==Merchandise==
===Revenge of the Fallen===
====RPMs - Robot Powered Machines====
[[File:ROTF-toy RPM Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|He's got such an ego, he gets a tattoo of ''himself''!]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2009)
**''Series:'' '''Speed Series'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 04'''

:''[[Robot Powered Machines]]'' Sideswipe is a small, non-transforming car with his robot mode sculpted underneath. Said robot mode has his swords colored red, for some reason. The car's wheels feature through-axle construction for speedy racing on flat surfaces.

[[File:RPM Sideswipe leakedproto.jpg|thumb|left|upright=1.1]]

:Although leaked images of a [[prototype]] that surfaced in 2008<ref name="rpmproto">[http://jalopnik.com/5047177/leaked-transformers-corvette-centennial-concept-toy-possibly-reveals-robot-mode Mirrored photos of early R.P.M. Sideswipetoy at Jalopnik.com]</ref> was pretty accurate to the Corvette Stingray car from the movie, the actual RPM Sideswipe toy has been severely altered and looks more like an Aston Martin. Unfortunately, Mattel was able to secure exclusive rights for releasing a Concept Stingray model car at a 1:64 scale for their ''Hot Wheels'' line (the toy was released as part of the "2010 New Models" lineup).

:Even worse, the Mattel toy drops a Transformers reference in its packaging blurb.<ref>"With a futuristic shape based on the original 1959 Stingray race car, this concept car also draws on Corvette cues from other generations, making a sweet "transformation" from old to new."</ref>

:This mold was also used to make ''[[Speed Stars]]'' [[Bluestreak (Speed Stars)|Bluestreak]].

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[[File:ROTF-toy SideswipeRPMvWreck.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Sideswipe vs. Wreckloose''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series 2'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 06'''

:A redeco of RPM Sideswipe with red stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his roof. It was only available in a two-pack with [[Wreckloose (ROTF)|Wreckloose]].

: As part of the final wave of RPMs, Battle Series 2 did not get released through normal retail outlets in the United States, instead showing up for sale first in Canada, Asia and Europe. Later, though, it would show up in the US though [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs Express]] mall stores and discount chains like Ross and TJ Maxx.

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[[File:ROTFRPMMetalHeroesSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Metal Heroes'''
**''Number:'' '''07 of 08'''

:A redeco of RPM Sideswipe with black door-stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his roof. This series is only known to have been released in Australia, the Philippines, Hong Kong and other Asian countries, and several European markets (i.e. in most Hasbro markets outside the Americas). Its deco would later serve as the basis for the ''Speed Stars'' release of "Metal Heroes" Sideswipe.

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*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Robot Riders'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 03'''

:"Robot Riders" Sideswipe is a new-mold figure of Sideswipe's robot mode that is built to roll on wheels. This figure was only released in Australia, the Philippines, Hong Kong, and other Asian countries. Its deco would later serve as the basis for the ''Speed Stars'' release of "Robot Riders" Sideswipe.

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[[File:ROTFRPMAllsparkSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Allspark'''
**''Number:'' '''02 of 04'''

:A redeco of ''RPM'' Sideswipe with blue door-stripes and a large Autobot insignia on his hood. While "Allspark" Sideswipe was officially listed during the run of the ''RPM'' series (on the back of the Asian market release of ''RPM'' "Allspark" Starscream), the only image of it was revealed by a downloadable poster on the official Transformers website of Turkey.

:Its paint layout would later serve as the basis for the ''Speed Stars'' Bluestreak toy.

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[[File:ROTFRPMNESTSideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''N.E.S.T. Global Alliance'''
**''Number:'' '''04 of 04'''

:A redeco of ''RPM'' "Robot Riders" Sideswipe in dark grey with gold-painted arm hubcaps. While "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" Sideswipe was officially listed during the run of the ''RPM'' series (on the back of the Asian market releases of ''RPM'' "N.E.S.T. Global Alliance" Bumblebee, Optimus Prime and Ironhide), the only image of it was revealed by a downloadable poster on the official Transformers website of Turkey.

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====Robot Heroes====
[[File:Robotheroessideswipesideways.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|Still needs training wheels.]]
*'''Sideswipe and Sideways''' (2009)
: Sideswipe is part of the first wave of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' figures and is packaged versus [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]]. He has rotational articulation at both shoulders, but his head is molded into his torso. In order to stand up, the figurine must rest its weight on one of his arms.
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[[File:Robotheroestwinswidewaysprimedemolishorsideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|"Damn, I'm cute."]]
*'''Shanghai Shootout''' (Multi-pack, 2009)
:Shanghai Shootout replicates the opening action scene from ''Revenge of the Fallen'', featuring figurines of [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]]/[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] (ice cream truck), [[Sideways (ROTF)|Sideways]] (vehicle mode), [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]], [[Demolishor (ROTF)|Demolishor]], and Sideswipe (vehicle mode). Demolishor is a slightly-oversized figure and the centerpiece of the box set.

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===Speed Stars===
====Mini-Vehicles====
[[File:SpeedStars-toy SideswipeVWreck.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Sideswipe vs. Wreckloose''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Battle Series 2'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 06'''

: Part of the first wave of ''[[Speed Stars]]'' Mini-Vehicle versus packs, this Sideswipe is a more widely-released version of the ''RPMs'' Battle Series 2 pack, coming with [[Wreckloose (ROTF)#Speed Stars|Wreckloose]]. And like Wreckloose, this version has quite a few changes from the barely-released ''RPMs'' version. The shiny silver overspray is gone, leaving a more matte silver plastic. The twin red stripes have been turned into a single large stripe. And the relief of his robot mode, now cast in red plastic instead of brown, is now done entirely in a single shade of silver, plus the raised "SIDESWIPE" at his "feet" is completely unpainted.

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[[File:SpeedStars RobotRiders Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Robot Riders'''
**''Number:'' '''01 of 03'''

: The ''Speed Stars'' version of "Robot Riders" Sideswipe has less paint details than the RPM version, and replaces the dark silver paint with a brighter silver, among many other changes.

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[[File:SpeedStars MetalHeroes Sideswipe.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Sideswipe''' (2010)
**''Series:'' '''Metal Heroes'''
**''Number:'' '''07 of 08'''

: The ''Speed Stars'' version of "Metal Heroes" Sideswipe is mostly the same, but has unpainted headlights, tail-lights, and rear bumper, and his robot mode has less painted details. He lacks the sculpted insignia on his underside.

: During the period between 26 December 2010 and 31 January 2011, Hasbro ran their "Supercharge Your Holidays" promotion: for every $20 spent on Hasbro-branded product, customers could receive a free, random product from a list provided by Hasbro. Among the items on the list were "Transformers Combiners and Speed Star Mini-Vehicle" and "Transformers Activator and Speed Star Mini-Vehicle." According to [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75487 this discussion thread on Allspark.com], Speed Stars Metal Heroes Sideswipe was one of the figures distributed.

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===Dark of the Moon===
====Speed Stars====
[[File:SpeedStars StealthForce MiniChangers SideswipeVsStarscream.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Stealth Force Sideswipe Vs. Starscream''' (2011)

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[[File:SpeedStars StealthForce MiniChangers Sideswipe&SentinelPrime.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67]]
*'''Stealth Force Sideswipe & Sentinel Prime''' (2011)

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==Notes==
[[File:ROTF Sideswipe concept art.jpeg|thumb|upright=1.67|There was a time he would have had feet.]]
[[File:RPMSpeedStarSideswipeUnknown.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|... [[Swerve (Movie)|Swerve]]?]]

* On June 11, 2008, blurry camera phone photos from the set of ''[[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (film)|Revenge of the Fallen]]'' offered the first look at Sideswipe's vehicle mode, which was believed to be a 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 at that time.<ref name="fairmont">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/new-concept-car-at-fairmont-park-base.html Blurry set photos from Fairmont Park]</ref> Ten days later, leaked photos offered a better look at the car being painted by Saleen, which was now revealed to be a never-seen-before Corvette model.<ref name="corvettesaleen">[http://jalopnik.com/396734/transformers-corvette-concept-z28-bumblebee-get-a-close+up Photo of the Corvette being painted by Saleen at Jalopnik]</ref> On August 7, 2008, Jalopnik claimed having received information that the car was a so-called "Corvette Centennial Concept".<ref name="centennial">[http://jalopnik.com/5034285/exclusive-the-transformers-mystery-car-is-the-corvette-centennial-design-concept Jalopnik's story on the "Corvette Centennial Concept"]</ref> [[General Motors]] finally admitted the car's existence at the Chicago Auto Show in February of 2009, now confirming that it was, in fact, a new Corvette Stingray concept.

* Rumored names for Sideswipe in the early days of the movie shooting were "Hot Rod"<ref name="upclose">[http://jalopnik.com/398892/up+close-photos-of-mystery-corvette-concept-from-new-transformers-movie More shots of the Corvette at Jalopnik], July 2009</ref> (which might have been a case of fans simply suggesting a random name and other fans subsequently treating it as gospel) and "Stinger". The latter originated with a (real) call sheet leaked in June 2008, which suggests that "Stinger" was an actual working name.<ref name="bethcall">[http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2008/06/bethlehem-call-sheet-cast-tf-and-next.html Leaked call sheet at the Transformers Live Action Movie Blog], July 2008</ref>

*An unreleased red and white redeco of the ''Robot Powered Machines'' Sideswipe mold was displayed at [[Toy Fair 2010]], amongst a mix of cancelled ''RPM'' and planned ''Speed Stars'' vehicles. Nobody knows what its deal is, and with the wholesale cancelling of the segment, probably never will.

* According to [[Ironhide (Movie)|Ironhide]] in [[Transformers (Titan Magazine)|Titan Magazine]]'s "[[Transformers Comic issue 2.13|Law and Disorder]]" letters section, Sideswipe has a relative named [[Sunstreaker (ROTF)|Sunstreaker]].

* The only thing more important to Sideswipe than looking good while being awesome... is [[Primus|God]].<ref>When Megatron mocks art of [[Primus]], Sideswipe objects: <tt>"YOU CANNOT LAUGH AT YOUR OWN CREATOR-GOD, YOU STUPID METAL LUMP!"</tt> in [[Transformers Comic issue 3.3]].</ref>

* For ''Dark of the Moon'', Sideswipe's alternate mode as a Chevrolet Corvette Stingray concept car was changed from the hardtop version as seen in ''Revenge of the Fallen'' into a convertible. He does still sport a hardtop when he changes into his Stealth Force mode, however.

* Sideswipe is the only character in the movie series to have been recast between films. Unless you count [[Leadfoot (DOTM)|Leadfoot]] (see his page for more on that little hiccup).

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Sideswipe''' (サイドスワイプ ''Saidosuwaipu'')

==References==
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[[Category:Cyber Missions characters]]
[[Category:Dark of the Moon Autobots]]
[[Category:Gladiators]]
[[Category:Human Alliance]]
[[Category:Martial artists]]
[[Category:Movie Autobots]]
[[Category:NEST]]
[[Category:Revenge of the Fallen Autobots]]
[[Category:Robot Heroes]]
[[Category:Cyberverse]]
[[Category:Target exclusives]]
[[Category:Transformers (2010) Autobots]]
[[Category:Wal-Mart exclusives]]
[[Category:Toys "R" Us exclusives]]
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Redeco

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[[Image:Redeco.jpg|right|250px|thumb|It may be a surprise to some that these three toys are actually the same toy but in three different color schemes! Crafty.]]
A '''redeco''', or recolor, is a toy which uses the same [[mold]]s as a previously-released toy, but has been reproduced with different plastic colors and/or different paint applications. A redeco can either be officially marketed as the same [[character]] in different colors, or as a different character. A redeco uses exactly the same tools or molds as the original toy. If any changes have been made, even something as simple as giving the toy a different head or additional pegs for locking body parts into place, it is more properly categorized as a [[retool]].

For example: the first three ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'' [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]], [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]], [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], are redecos while the second year Seekers [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] and [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] are retools of the same base mold.

The term "[[repaint]]" is also in wide use among fans as a synonym for "redeco". "Redeco", however, is the term used by the people on [[Hasbro]]'s ''Transformers'' team. Additionally, the term "repaint" is technically wrong in almost all instances of a same-mold-new-colors toy, as typically more than the paint applications are changed when a toy is redecoed.

==Why redecos?==
[[Image:Encoreratchetemergencygreen.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Some people just don't know when to stop.]]
The single most expensive step in making a Transformers toy is making the steel-cut [[mold]]s required to hold then cool molten plastic. Add to this the salaries of the designers and engineers, and there is a very considerable expense involved in making a single new-mold toy. Many of these development expenses are not involved in making a redeco, giving the company a chance to make a larger profit on a single mold and put more product on the shelves with a smaller investment.

Another reason is that the toy market moves far, far faster today than it did when the line first started. Retailers do not like product to linger, and shipping older toys in new assortments can give the impression that some items simply do not sell. (Of course, [[Shelfwarmer|some don't anyway]], but that's beside the point.) With this much shorter sales window in mind, companies use redecos to keep molds in use longer (to help make back the money spent in development plus a worthwhile profit), and oftentimes keep popular characters still in circulation while maintaining a "fresh" look on the shelves, making the retailers happy. Retools have a much longer development lead time than redecos, even for small parts. It may not cost much more to give a reused mold a new robot mode head, but timing concerns may be the deciding factor in choosing to redeco the old one.<ref>[http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/showthread.php?t=11518 Hasbro Q&A at cybertron.ca]</ref>

Members of the [[Hasbro]] Transformers team have repeatedly pointed out that they never expected anyone to ''buy'' all the redecoes made; [[Aaron Archer]] was apparently baffled by the premise.

==Redecos as exclusives==
Most [[exclusive]] toys, be they for conventions<ref>[http://groups.google.com/group/alt.toys.transformers/browse_thread/thread/50ee7c561e688de7/50b5edb5139f83a1?lnk=st&&rnum=7&hl=en#50b5edb5139f83a1 Tengu explains why convention toys aren't new molds, alt.toys.transformers post archived on Google]</ref> or stores, are redecos and [[Retool|retools]] of previously-released toys. With just one exception, all exclusives that used previously-unreleased molds are toys that had been developed for normal retail but were temporarily in "limbo" when their intended toylines were ended. The one exception, [[Swerve (Chevy)|Aveo Swerve]], was a new mold produced for a gigantic multinational corporation.

The simple reason for this is, again, cost; making the steel molds is prohibitively expensive, as well as the engineering and so forth. Because most exclusives are produced in numbers far less than a normal retail toy, there are fewer units to amortize what production costs ''do'' remain, which means the toys must either sell for more to cover costs and make a worthwhile profit, or the profit margin per item must be reduced, or even both at once.

While it is certainly not outside the realm of possibility that a major retail chain might get a new-mold toy as an exclusive (as they can move thousands and thousands of units nationwide over several months), the odds of a convention getting one are almost nonexistent due to these cost considerations, as the production runs of these toys rarely reach far beyond 1000. At most, therefore, one can expect a few [[Retool|retools]] of select parts from a toy, often a new-mold robot mode head.

==Popular redeco themes==
[[Image:Bruticus redecos.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Not [[knockoff]]s.....]]
Redecos can be marketed either as the same [[character]] in different colors, or as a different character. For both versions, some recurring themes have been established between Hasbro and Takara.

*[[Black repaint|Black redecos]] - commonly used for "stealth" forms and evil clones.

*Clear redecos - sometimes inspired by specific character abilities or plots (such as ''Generation 1'' [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage's]] invisibility or [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] as a ghost).

*"Fire"-themed redecos - often representing a power-enhanced version of a character.

*Metallic redecos - particularly gold or silver [[vacuum metallizing|chromed]]. These are often used for [[Lucky Draw figure]]s.

*[[Homage]] redecos - designed to resemble a previous (often ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'') character. This is particularly prevalent with [[Constructicon (G1)|construction vehicles]] and [[Dinobot (G1)|dinosaurs]].

==Popular redeco characters==
Some redecos of toys of a certain character are frequently designed to be one or several certain other characters. Some of those different-character redeco themes are directly rooted in ''[[The Transformers (toyline)|Generation 1]]'', while others are indirectly inspired by ''Generation 1'', and still others are more recent additions to the Transformers lore. Some well-known examples include:
*[[Optimus Prime (disambiguation)|Optimus Prime]] into [[Ultra Magnus (disambiguation)|Ultra Magnus]] and/or [[Scourge (RID)|Scourge]], [[Nemesis Prime (disambiguation)|Nemesis Prime]] and [[Motormaster (disambiguation)|Motormaster]]. Also, one Optimus into another, such as [[Optimus Primal]] into [[Primal Prime]].
*[[Megatron (disambiguation)|Megatron]] into [[Galvatron (disambiguation)|Galvatron]].
*[[Bumblebee (disambiguation)|Bumblebee]] into [[Cliffjumper (disambiguation)|Cliffjumper]], [[Transformers: Prime (cartoon)|usually]].
*[[Seeker (body-type)|The Seekers]] as redecos/[[retool]]s of each other.
*''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak/Silverstreak]] and [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] as redecos/retools of each other.
*[[Ironhide (disambiguation)|Ironhide]] and [[Ratchet (disambiguation)|Ratchet]] as redecos/retools of each other. [[Live-action film series|Usually]].
*''Generation 1'' [[Sideswipe (G1)|Sideswipe]], [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] and [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] as redecos/retools of each other.
*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] [[Tigatron|into]] [[Cataclysm (BW)|various]] [[Ravage (G1)|other]] [[CatSCAN|cats]].

==See also==
*[[Repaint]]
*[[Retool]]
*[[Gang-molding]]
*[[Mold]]
*[[Paint operation]]

==Notes and References==
<references />

[[Category:Toys]]

Kid-appeal character

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[[File:Watching SUVs.jpg|right|thumb|Cue the hijinks.]]''Transformers'' is, and always has been, a franchise aimed at children. And because most Transformers are always so [[Grimlock (G1)|broody]] and [[Optimus Prime (G1)|cool]] and all sorts of other things little kids won't get, most to all franchises have what could be called a '''kid-appeal character'''. This character often interacts with the token [[human]] character as one of their closest friends, and the two get into all sorts of wacky adventures together. They usually get pulled out by one of the older bots, completely fail to learn their lesson, and do it again. And again and again and...
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==List of kid-appeal characters==
[[File:Wheelietftmslingshot.jpg|right|upright=0.85|thumb|Finally, a kid-imitable weapon.]]

'''[[The Transformers (cartoon)|Original (Generation 1) ''The Transformers'' cartoon]]'''

*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] spent a good deal of time with [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]]'s [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 1|first]] [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2|three]] [[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3|episodes]], but was soon supplanted by...
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]], who stayed with Spike for most of the series.
*[[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] was [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel Witwicky]]'s closest friend at the beginning of ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''. This lasted for all of eighty minutes, as Hot Rod's upgrade into Rodimus Prime made him no longer "hip" enough, and he was replaced.
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] took over for the show's third season. Wheelie and Daniel went off on adventures like [[Surprise Party|stealing a ship to figure out when Ultra Magnus's birthday was and nearly getting killed repeatedly in the process]]. Exactly the sort of thing we want kids identifying with.
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], the girl, filled in for the Daniel's Best Friend part in the final three episodes.
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'''''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]'''''
*[[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] was still a companion to Daniel, even though they spent most of their time insulting each other.

'''''[[Transformers: Super-God Masterforce (cartoon)|Super-God Masterforce]]'''''
*The [[Headmaster Junior]]s were unique in that they served both as the token young humans and the kid-appeal Transformer characters.

'''''[[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (cartoon)|Victory]]'''''
*[[Holi]] was [[Jean Minakaze]]'s pal.

[[File:Nightscreambm.jpg|right|upright=0.85|thumb|Popular amongst the blind kids, maybe.]]

'''''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'''''

*[[Cheetor (BW)|Cheetor]] was not only yellow, he had the impulsiveness and disregard for authority every kid-appeal bot needs. The only thing he lacked was a human friend, until [[Chak]] and [[Una]] showed up in the show's third season. Except for the [[Transmetal 2]] upgrade, and the whole of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'', he was a pretty friendly guy, annoying the others with his childish enthusiasm.

'''''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'''''

*[[Nightscream (BM)|Nightscream]] replaced Cheetor as the youngster of the Maximals since Cheetor had matured. Hasbro had such high hopes for this kid appeal character, that they made his toy a giant Ultra class figure! Unfortunately, his character was angry and bitter, so he didn't get much love. He never had a human friend either, since ''Beast Machines'' had no humans at all. He hung out with [[Noble (BM)|Noble]], though, so that's something.

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'''''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise)|Robots in Disguise]] (2001)'''''

*[[Wedge]] was the young, excitable hero who was hotheaded and naive, but was being primed for leadership.
*However, it was [[Side Burn (RID)|Side Burn]], the ''other'' naive, excitable young hero, who had the special friendship with [[Koji Onishi|a human]].
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[[File:Hotshotironhidedw.jpg|right|thumb|Hot Shot passes the kid-appeal torch.]]
'''[[Unicron Trilogy]]'''

*[[Hot Shot (Armada)|Hot Shot]] was the token kid-appeal character of ''[[Transformers: Armada (franchise)|Armada]]'', hot-headed, unwilling to listen to his superiors, and suddenly thrust into a leadership role that lasted all of three episodes. Unfortunately, he ''grew up'', something no kid-appeal character should ever have to do, and was shortly replaced.
*[[Ironhide (Energon)|Ironhide]] took over once ''[[Transformers: Energon (franchise)|Energon]]'' rolled around. His tenure was mostly spent getting kicked by...uh...[[Kicker Jones|Kicker]]. They got along eventually, though.
* Hot Shot was young and goofy again in ''[[Transformers: Cybertron (franchise)|Cybertron]],'' but the series' kids spent more time with the [[Recon Mini-Con Team]], particularly [[Jolt (Cybertron)|Jolt]] (the only one who could speak English).

'''[[Live-action film series]]'''

*[[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] was the first Autobot to arrive on Earth. His mission to search for the [[AllSpark]] led him to [[Sam Witwicky (Movie)|Sam Witwicky]], a boy whom he befriended over the course of his mission, and stayed with once it was over. Sam repaid him by making out with [[Mikaela Banes|Mikaela]] on top of him. Huh.
*[[Skids (ROTF)|Skids]] and [[Mudflap (ROTF)|Mudflap]] provide the kid appeal in scenes with the older, more serious, Autobots and [[NEST]] soldiers since Bumblebee is with Sam, and subsequently tag along on the main adventure and even get an action sequence with [[Devastator (ROTF)|Devastator]] to themselves - all while being foul mouthed.
*[[Brains]] and [[Wheelie (ROTF)|Wheelie]] hang out with Sam and Carly and provide much of the comic relief for ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (film)|Dark of the Moon]]''. However, when Brains alone returns for ''[[Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|Age of Extinction]]'', he's definitely not quite as much a character for the kids, considering he spends the better part of his screentime being [[Joshua Joyce|tortured]] or [[Kinetic Solutions Incorporated|enslaved]]. Usually both at the same time.

'''''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Animated]]'''''

*[[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] (detecting a pattern yet?) is [[Sari Sumdac (Animated)|Sari Sumdac]]'s closest friend, human and bot alike. Once again, he is irrational and impulsive, which has only helped endear him to his small, fleshy friend (assuming, of course, she is fleshy...).

'''''[[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|Prime]]'''''

*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] returns, though this time he's not the only character with a guardian robot dynamic, as [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]] and [[Bulkhead (Prime)|Bulkhead]] are tasked with taking care of the [[Jack Darby (Prime)|older]] [[Miko Nakadai (Prime)|children]]. Regardless, as Bumblebee's friend is 12-year old [[Raf Esquivel]], he is the Autobot his age group are meant to relate to.
*[[Smokescreen (Prime)|Smokescreen]] is the eager new recruit that joined Team Prime in late season two. While he didn't have a human friend, he was [[Jack Darby (Prime)|occasionally lent one.]] He replaced Bumblebee as the youngest member of the group.

==Notes==
* They have an overwhelming tendency to be yellow.
* More recently, they also have an overwhelming tendency to be named [[Bumblebee (disambiguation)|Bumblebee]]. We're [[Transformers (film)|not sure why]].
* Had [[trademark]] issues not gotten in the way at the time, ''Armada'' Hot Shot would have also been named "Bumblebee". After the 2007 movie had made "Bumblebee" an A-lister again (including a changed trademark situation enabling Hasbro to use the name again), this resulted in a reverse situation with the kid-appeal character from ''Animated'' having his name changed from "Hot Shot" (as that name had been established by the [[Unicron Trilogy]]) into "Bumblebee" (although [[Hot Shot (Animated)|Hot Shot]] later appears as a separate character in ''Animated'', with more similarities to his UT predecessor).
* ''Animated'' Bumblebee was [[Bee in the City|once transported]] into the [[Transcendent Technomorph|TransTech]] universe, where he was often mistaken for other kid-appeal characters, including Wheelie, Cheetor, and Side Burn.

[[Category:Fandom]]

Hot Spot (G1)

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:''Hot Spot is an [[Autobot]] [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobot]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]]. He is also known as '''Hot Zone'''.''
[[File:Hotspot-transformersuniverse.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|Unfortunately, for a serious [[primus apotheosis]] subject, an Optimus Prime-like head isn't enough. Fake windscreens on the chest are common.]]
'''Hot Spot''' leads by example. Whether it's a raging battle or a raging fire, he's right in the thick of things—and that's where he's happiest. While many Autobots get into trouble by not thinking in combat, Hot Spot is a natural warrior who excels at fighting on instinct alone. His fellow Protectobots find his endless energy inspiring (though a bit exhausting), letting Hot Spot command even the most philosophically different of robots like [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] and [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] as a tight and effective unit. He's a tough fighter to boot—strong, well-armed and well-armored.

Hot Spot can combine with his fellow [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] to form [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] or [[God Guardian]].

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Dan Gilvezan]] (English), [[Kenyū Horiuchi]] (Japanese), [[Takurō Kitagawa]] (Japanese, "The Ultimate Weapon", "The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1")|[[Roberto Alexander]] (American Spanish), [[Gerhard Acktun]] (German, "Carnage in C-Minor"), [[Reinhard Brock]] (German, "Ghost in the Machine"), [[Imo Heite]] (German, "The Ultimate Weapon"), [[Hans-Rainer Müller]] (German, "The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1"), [[Claus Brockmeyer]] (German, ''Generation 2'' "The Revenge of Bruticus")}}

[[File:G1 RevengeofBruticus HotSpotfightfire.jpg|left|upright=0.95|thumb|It's one of 'em newfangled drivin' by 'emselves fire trucks, huyuck!]]
When the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] attacked an inhabited city on [[Earth]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] called upon the Protectobots to evacuate the civilians caught in the crossfire. Later, as Earth's orbit was diverted to the [[sun]] by the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]], Hot Spot extinguished the flames engulfing the bone-dry crops of a farmer before quickly driving off to the next fire. {{storylink|The Revenge of Bruticus}}

[[File:Bot-episode-hotspot-guns.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
Hot Spot, as part of Defensor, totally blew up [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]]. Afterwards, he was with the Protectobots when they saved some window-washers from a burning skyscraper, helping [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] extinguish the flames with liquid nitrogen. Later still, Hot Spot and the other Protectobots were ordered to help defend [[Ark (G1)|Autobot Headquarters]] from a Decepticon attack. They merged into Defensor and activated his useless force field, which almost immediately deactivated, allowing the Decepticons to blast Defensor back into his component parts. {{storylink|B.O.T. (episode)|B.O.T.}}

By [[2006]], the Protectobots had risen to become a major presence in the Autobot army. Hot Spot participated in the liberation of [[Paradron]]. {{storylink|Fight or Flee (episode)|Fight or Flee}} He and [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] were among a group of Autobots who battled the Decepticons on [[Eurythma]]. {{storylink|Carnage in C-Minor}} On Cybertron, Hot Spot and Groove manned the Autobots' defensive laser batteries when [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]'s ghost launched [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] into their range. Realizing that this "invasion" and the recent assault on [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]] were connected with [[Unicron]] getting his eyes back, [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] sent Hot Spot, Groove, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]] and [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] up to Unicron to investigate. They were repulsed, violently, by Unicron's internal defenses. When Unicron and Starscream enlisted [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] to move the Planet-Eater's head to Cybertron to make it his new body, though, Hot Spot and his team were ready with energon explosives to blast Unicron back out into space. {{storylink|Ghost in the Machine (episode)|Ghost in the Machine}}

[[File:G1 UltimateWeapon HotSpotStreetwise covering FirstAid.jpg|left|upright=0.95|thumb|He regrets the moments he got his arm extensions.]]
One day, the Autobots were asked to help the Dutch authorities deal with French rebels. After dispersing the human aggressors, Hot Spot was concerned about how they could protect the human civilians from the Decepticons and cover First Aid, who was helping the downed [[Blades (G1)|Blades]]. Later, as it turned out the battle was only a diversion to allow [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] to steal Metroplex's [[transformation cog]], Hot Spot, Rodimus Prime and Ultra Magnus tried to reassure First Aid of his value to the Autobots when the pacifist medic failed to stop Swindle. Unfortunately, just as First Aid left, the Autobots were called upon to deal with a rampaging Trypticon. Hot Spot ordered the remaining Protectobots to combine into Defensor even without First Aid to save a train full of civilians. After successfully saving them, Hot Spot tracked down First Aid to a junk yard and convinced the latter of his value to the Autobots. {{storylink|The Ultimate Weapon}}

Later in 2006, the Protectobots arrived at the aftermath of the battle between the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] and [[Terrorcon (G1)|Terrorcons]] at [[Mark Morgan]]'s laboratory. They transported the injured [[Jessica Morgan]] to county general hospital and watched over her as the doctors restored her ability to walk with an exo-skeletal structure, enraging the robo-phobic senior Morgan. When Hot Spot tried to explain that they only wanted to help, Morgan shot back that they were only turning her into one of ''them''. This had [[Hate Plague|negative consequences]]. What a jerkface. {{storylink|The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1}}
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====Japanese cartoon continuity====
=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' manga=====
When the Stunticons went on a rampage, attacking a human baseball stadium, the Autobots' human friend [[Kenji]] radioed for help. Hot Spot and the other combiner warriors answered his summons. After Hot Spot extinguished the blaze caused by the Decepticon attack, he joined his fellow warriors in forming Defensor and Superion. The sides evened up with the arrival of Bruticus, however, and a critical blow to Defensor's chest damaged Hot Spot, forcing the Protectobots to disengage. Through sheer cunning, the other Protectobots managed to drive off the Decepticons, and Hot Spot survived long enough to receive the proper repairs. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 5|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #5}}

Later, the Decepticons tried to drive a rift between the humans and Autobots by using their ground-bound members to pose as crazed Autobot attackers. Hot Spot and [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] arrived on the scene and used their water sprays to wash off the fake Autobot symbols, revealing the Decepticons underneath. Not beaten yet, Onslaught and Motormaster unleashed a combiner whirlwind attack, but Hot Spot and Inferno whipped their ladders around, sending the Decepticon sub-commanders flying straight into a double kick by Optimus Prime and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 7|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #7}}

=====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' story pages=====
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=====Scramble City=====
Hot Spot and the Protectobots participated in the Scramble City project under Ultra Magnus's direction, working towards the construction of [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. After the Decepticons uncovered their secret building site, the Protectobots rode into battle alongside the newly completed Metroplex. Hot Spot and his comrades arrived and formed Defensor just in time to act as the harbinger of Metroplex and his really big gun. {{storylink|Scramble City: Mobilization}}

=====''The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers''=====
On the planet [[Feminia]], the Autobots had constructed a massive energy tower, so naturally the Decepticons wanted to plunder it. Hot Spot and the Protectobots were present to defend the tower as Defensor, but were easily taken down by [[Predaking (G1)|Predaking]]. They had to be rescued by the mysterious and powerful [[Omnibot (G1)|Omnibots]]. {{storylink|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers issue 5|The Story of Super Robot Lifeforms: The Transformers #5}}

=====''The Great Transformer War'' manga=====
When [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] kidnapped the famous scientist, Doctor [[Dalton (G1)|Dalton]], Hot Spot and the Protectobots joined the Aerialbots in speeding to his rescue. They were harshly rebuffed at [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]'s gate, however, by the Combaticons and Stunticons. Superion was torn to shreds, and Hot Spot converted to repair bay mode in order to bring the fallen Aerialbots back on line. His teammates held the line, fending off Bruticus and Menasor while Hot Spot hurried to finish his work, and Blades snuck inside Trypticon to retrieve Dalton. With the Aerialbots repaired and Dalton freed, the Autobots retreated back to Metroplex. {{storylink|The Great Transformer War issue 1|The Great Transformer War #1}}

=====''The Headmasters'' cartoon=====
{{voiceactor|[[Kōji Totani]] (Japanese), [[Hōchū Ōtsuka]] (ep 12), [[Kazuo Oka]] (ep 25), [[Ken Yamaguchi]] (ep 27), [[Hirohiko Kakegawa]] (ep 34)}}

In [[2011]], [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]] attacked Cybertron looking to take control of [[Vector Sigma]]. Hot Spot and [[Blades (G1)|Blades]] were on the front lines defending Cybertron against the Combaticons. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} As Defensor, Hot Spot's team continued battling on Cybertron for some time. {{storylink|The Mystery of Planet Master}} Later, Hot Spot and the Protectobots assembled on Earth at [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ultra Magnus]]'s command. Their mission was to stop the Decepticons from interfering with [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]], who were searching for the hidden location of the [[Matrix of Leadership]]. On a security sweep, the Protectobots ran across their old foes, the Combaticons, and went into battle. The two teams quickly assumed their combined forms as Bruticus and Defensor, as the fighting escalated. {{storylink|Birth of the Fantastic Double Prime}}

When Galvatron made another strike on Cybertron, this time to steal the super-metal [[Cybertonuron]], Hot Spot and the Protectobots assembled before the [[space bridge]] on Earth to be transported into battle. Seeking out the Combaticons on the battlefield, the Protectobots soon formed Defensor and fought once more with Bruticus. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 1}} Defensor and Bruticus's battle continued as Defensor delivered a devastating smash to Bruticus's back. For at least part of the battle, the two teams disassembled again, as Hot Spot and Blades were seen firing upon the aerial Combaticons again. {{storylink|Cybertron Is in Grave Danger, Part 2}}

Hot Spot and the Protectobots were dispatched to [[Peru]] with the [[Trainbot]]s when a volcano erupted, leaving a mountainside village in dire peril. Their rescue mission was blocked by the [[Predacon (G1)|Predacons]]. Hot Spot was ready to tear into the enemy, but [[Shouki]] insisted the Protectobots proceed on to the village to protect the innocent lives. Hot Spot relented, but the Protectobots nevertheless failed to reach the village. They were intercepted by the Decepticons' second wave, the [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]]. Although they formed Defensor, the Protectobots were taken out of action by [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]]'s paralysis ray, which was strong enough to leave them completely immobilized. {{storylink|The Dormant Volcano Mysteriously Erupts}}

Hot Spot and the Protectobots were part of a strike team that flew to the [[Moon (moon)|moon]] to disrupt Scorponok's gathering of Decepticons. They immediately formed Defensor upon entering the battle. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}} When the planet [[Sandra (planet)|Sandra]] sent out a distress call asking for energy, the Autobots of Earth responded. While they were loading the Trainbots full of supplies, however, Galvatron and the Decepticons arrived to take the energy for themselves. Hot Spot and the Protectobots fought back against the enemy, and formed Defensor to counter Devastator on the battlefield. {{storylink|SOS from Planet Sandra}}

After the death of Ultra Magnus, the Autobots were desperately trying to pick up the slack during Sixshot's campaign of destruction around the globe. Hot Spot and the Protectobots assembled as Defensor to go out and confront Sixshot at one of the attack sites, but they apparently didn't fare too well. {{storylink|The Emperor of Destruction Vanishes on an Iceberg}} When the Decepticons seemingly abandoned Earth, Hot Spot and the Protectobots assisted Spike in rebuilding the planet after the enemy's departure. On one occasion, they located Sixshot's old command base. By combining into Defensor, the Protectobots helped Raiden and Computron obliterate the base, wiping out all trace of the Decepticons' presence. {{storylink|Miraculous Warriors, Targetmasters (Part 1)}}

Following a lengthy period of inactivity, the Decepticons renewed their attacks on Earth. With Fortress still off in space, Spike Witwicky dispatched Hot Spot and the Protectobots to attend to the threats. In Canberra, [[Australia]], the Protectobots confronted Bruticus at one of Scorponok's new Death Towers. As Defensor, the Protectobots were beaten severely by Bruticus. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)}} As part of Defensor, Hot Spot participated in the Autobots final battle with Scorponok's Decepticons at the North Pole. He lent his energies to the Headmasters' [[Head Formation]] to revitalize Fortress Maximus at the critical moment. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}

===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel ''The Transformers'' comics====
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[[File:Protectobots-marvel24.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.67]]
Hot Spot and the other Protectobots were created on Earth by [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] and the Autobots after they stole a recording of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]'s combiner transformation sequence and modified it. {{storylink|Command Performances!}}'' After, [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Buster Witwicky (G1)|Buster Witwicky]] shared a [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]]-induced vision of the future with the [[Special Teams]] in it. {{storylink|Second Generation!}}''

Hot Spot accompanied Optimus Prime and his fellow Protectobots to [[Energy Futures Industries]], where they squared off against [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] and the Combaticons to prevent them from stealing the [[hydrothermocline]], a potentially limitless supply of energy. To prevent property damage and potential civilian casualties, the Autobots agreed to be uploaded into a virtual fantasy world in EFI's computer systems by [[Ethan Zachary]], a [[human]] programmer on site. Similarly, the Decepticons agreed so that the hydrothermocline would remain intact. The game scenario was arranged so that the "death" of either Optimus or Megatron would end the game. Once inside "[[Multi-World]]", Hot Spot convinced Optimus Prime to remain behind while the Protectobots eliminated the potential threats. Hot Spot himself did battle with his opposite number, [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]], in the region known as the Slimepit. Despite the hindrance the bog caused, Hot Spot still held true to Autobot ideals and threw himself in harm's way to protect the virtual inhabitants of Multi-World. In turn, they carried him to safety away from Onslaught, giving him the advantage he needed to defeat the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]]. Despite their efforts, though, Optimus Prime ended up dying on this mission, and the Protectobots brought his body back to the Ark. {{storylink|Afterdeath!}}

[[File:Democracykingofthehill.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Hot Spot lets the others know how he feels about these meetings with his "wanking" gesture.]]
Hot Spot was one of the several Autobots who watched through a window as [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] futilely tried to repair Optimus Prime's body. {{storylink|Funeral for a Friend!}} After the funeral, Hot Spot and other high-ranking Autobots assembled to nominate a new leader. Hot Spot suggested their nominee possess wisdom just like Optimus Prime, since their late leader knew how and how not to fight. After the Autobots were rescued by the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] from an attack by [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]], Hot Spot and the others chose [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] to be their new leader. {{storylink|King of the Hill!}}

[[File:Hotspot-g1issue35.jpg|left|upright=1.4|thumb|"Now I've set the timer to ten seconds, so I'll just get in between you guys and—dammit! Not again!"]]
Under Grimlock's leadership, Hot Spot and the Protectobots were ordered to hunt down and apprehend the AWOL Autobots [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Bumblebee (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Goldbug]]. They caught up with the deserters at a used car lot run by [[Big Steve Ludwig (G1)|Big Steve]], but a four-way skirmish developed between Blaster, the Protectobots, the Combaticons, and the human-led robot hunters, [[Rapid Anti-robot Assault Team|RAAT]]. In the end, Hot Spot and his crew only managed to capture Blaster. {{storylink|Used Autobots}} When a second encounter with the Combaticons endangered the lives of several young humans, Blaster not only saved the children and defeated [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]] where [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] failed, but then willingly resubmitted himself to Protectobot custody rather than trying to escape. Impressed with Blaster's actions, Hot Spot decided to defy Grimlock's orders and let him go free. {{storylink|Child's Play (issue)|Child's Play}}
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=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
In [[2008]], Hot Spot was seen beating the stuffing out of a Decepticon during a major offensive on Cybertron. {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}}

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====Marvel ''Generation 2'' comic====
[[File:Hotspot-g2issue2.jpg|left|thumb|He's a Fahrenheit 451 truck: his job is to start fires.]]
Hot Spot led a team of Autobots sent to [[Earth]] by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Optimus Prime]] to counter the threat of a [[Cobra]]-rebuilt [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]]. Megatron's new form was more than a match for them, however, and nearly all of his team were destroyed. Only Hot Spot and [[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] survived the encounter. {{storylink|Final Transformations}}

As the last survivor still on Earth, Hot Spot observed Cobra hauling a trailer of Transformers technology salvaged from the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], and noted that his orders included keeping Autobot tech out of the humans' hands. He single-handedly attacked the convoy, drawing fire from numerous Cobra tanks, until he managed to destroy the trailer by ramming it off the side of an embankment. Weary and on the brink of shut-down, Hot Spot self-destructed to keep Cobra from using his own body as a replacement source of technology. {{storylink|All or Nothing!}}
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====Transformers Comic-Magazin====
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====''Regeneration One''====
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===The Special Teams===
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[File:Hotspot-warwithin.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|My invisible partner already has this dance—]]
After the signing of the [[Crisis Intervention Accord]], many of the special teams went into hiding or broke up to continue fighting on different factions. Hot Spot maintained the Protectobots, one of the late model specials teams, in secret. The group watched the battles rage around them, continuing to help when possible, intervening to uphold CIA where necessary, and trying to overcome the shortcomings of the combination process.

Upon learning that [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] had persuaded the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] to join his [[Ultracon]]s, Hot Spot led his team to the [[Tagan Heights]] to counter the threat of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] by using Defensor. {{storylink|Escalation}} Unfortunately the plan backfired and the battle between the two titans only increased the damage. Proving that five minds are better than one, the team divided and defeated Devastator with an overload of electricity. {{storylink|Devastation}}

Hot Spot was obsessed with overcoming the problem with their combined form. The team's analysis was interrupted by an attack by the [[Chaos Trinity]], as Hot Spot was one of the [[Unbinding|Four Angles of Dissolution]] [[The Fallen]] needed to awaken [[Primus]] and draw [[Unicron]] to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]. After the previous failure against Devastator, Hot Spot was unwilling to risk using Defensor again, and his team was defeated by the [[Dark science|enhanced powers]] of [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] and his allies, [[Mindwipe (G1)|Mindwipe]] and [[Bugly (G1)|Bugly]]. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}} Hot Spot was taken to a [[Well of All Sparks|subterranean chamber]], where energy from his and three others' Sparks served to unlock the seal of Primus. [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]], another of the Four, eventually freed himself and rescued Hot Spot in what might have been an embarrassing role reversal... if he'd been awake for it. {{storylink|Conflagration}}

During [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s reign over [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], he was sent to stop [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]]'s rampage. Despite merging with his fellow [[Protectobot (G1)|Protectobots]] into [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]], he was defeated even with the aid of the [[Omnibot (G1)|Omnibots]]. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}}
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===3H comics===
[[File:Hotspot-wreckers.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Leave it to [[Dan Khanna|a fan]] to actually show, for the first time ever, his weapons doing what they're supposed to do.]]
In the not-too-distant future, Hot Spot led a team of [[Targetmaster]]s aboard [[Sky Garry (ROC)|Sky Garry]] to back up [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]], [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]], and [[Daniel Witwicky (G1)|Daniel]] during an outbreak of [[Nightbird (G1)|crazed female cyber ninjas]]. Fighting a losing battle, Hot Spot personally had to drag Arcee to safety, leaving Wheelie and Daniel behind to grenade themselves to death. Fortunately, their murder-suicide pact also took out the remaining Nightbirds. {{storylink|Departure}}
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
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[[File:SPotlightWheelie-HotSpot.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.1|Because Browning wasn't available.]]
Sometime before Cybertron was abandoned, Hot Spot was a dispatch officer, searching for viable soldiers to fill out the ranks. When he needed a volunteer for a deep space exploration mission, he reluctantly chose the tiny supply-bot known as [[Wheelie (G1)|Wheelie]] for the assignment. {{storylink|Spotlight: Wheelie}}

[[File:NewArrivalsOldEncounters-HotSpot.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.67|That's him back there, trust us.]]

Two years after the fall of Megatron in [[New York City]], Hot Spot was seen among the surviving Autobots stranded on Earth. {{storylink|Things Fall Apart, Part 1: "New Arrivals, Old Encounters"|New Arrivals, Old Encounters}} He was present when [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] returned from space and told them Cybertron was restored. {{storylink|Space Opera—Final Tableaux: Orphans of the Helix|Orphans of the Helix}} While most Autobots returned to Cybertron, Hot Spot was among those chosen by [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]] to remain on Earth. He and [[Kyle Pennington]] agreed that the Autobots, despised by humanity as they were, really needed better PR. Pennington suggested that he and fellow fire truck [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] do stuff like extinguish fires and save cats from trees, which Hot Spot thought was a great idea. Nobody else did. {{storylink|Police Action: Part 1|Police Action #1}} He went on to aid in the search for the Decepticon forces hiding on Earth, but their lack of success and the fact that nobody really saw him as a leader got Bumblebee down. Hot Spot tried to cheer him back up, but was left behind when Bumblebee chose to deal with things on his own. {{storylink|The Question}}

[[File:WordsHangInTheAir-Pallbearers.jpg|right|thumb|upright=1.67|Always a pallbearer, never a pall.]]

After returning to Cybertron, Hot Spot helped extinguish fires and look for survivors in the wakes of several mysterious explosions. {{storylink|Stick Together}} He later brought an injured [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]] to [[Fixit (G1)|Fixit]]'s medbay for treatment. {{storylink|City on Fire}}

Hot Spot joined the crew of the ''[[Lost Light]]'' following its return to Cybertron. When the ship encountered a coffin floating in outer space, Hot Spot, [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]], [[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]] and [[Grotusque]] carried it in, under the command of [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]. {{storylink|World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|Words Hang in the Air}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers Legends''===
During a Decepticon attack on a major human city, [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], [[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] and the Protectobots launched rescue operations. Unfortunately their efforts were hampered by [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] and [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], who unleashed all manner of sonic attacks on them. {{storylink|To the Rescue}}

Hot Spot, alongside [[Blades (G1)|Blades]], [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] and [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]], responded to an emergency call that was in actuality a trap set by the Decepticons [[Skullcruncher]] and [[Snapdragon (G1)|Snapdragon]]. Despite the duo's schemes, the Autobots were able to send the Decepticons packing. {{storylink|False Alarm}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[File:G1HotSpotToy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Finally we see the G1 Hotspot mold in all his... well, glory works for me.]]
*'''Hot Spot''' (Protectobot, 1986)
**''Team ID number:'' '''P5'''
**''Japanese ID number'': '''C-71'''
**''Accessories'': 2 "Fireball Cannons", 2 mechanical arms, left & right "blast shields", Defensor hip shield, left & right Defensor fists, left & right Defensor footplates

:Hot Spot transforms into a blue Mitsubishi Fuso Great fire engine. As a [[Scramble City (toyline)|Scramble City]]-style combiner torso, he has a third mode as a "repair bay", somewhat remeniscent of [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys|Powermaster Optimus Prime]]'s combat deck. In this form, he is equipped with waldo arms to "repair" other vehicles. Hot Spot can connect with [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'s city mode in this form as well. Another alternate mode allows him to function as an armored car carrier, by extending his legs in vehicle mode and attaching his guns and Defensor's chest plates; he has deck space to carry a single small vehicle in this form.

:Hot Spot's chest plate was initially made of painted [[die-cast]] metal. However, later runs replaced this with colored plastic and some paint application changes on his headlights. A plastic-chest yellow-eyed version (as opposed to the red eyes on the other releases) has been reported but not confirmed. Subsequent releases of him in the "Classics" line omitted the rub sign gimmick.

:This mold was also used to make [[Fire Chief]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Hotspot/hotspot.htm More information on Hot Spot at TFU.info]''
::*''[http://www.transformers-universe.com/include.php?path=content/ToyDB_Info.php&Toy_ID=252&Sprache=0 More information on Hot Spot at Transformers-Universe.com]''
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[[File:G1toy defensor giftset.jpg|right|thumb|300px|]]
*'''Defensor''' (giftset, 1986)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''C-76'''

:Hot Spot was also available as part of the Defensor giftset, unchanged from his individual release. It is currently unknown which construction variants came in the set.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Autobot/Defensor/defensor.htm More information on Defensor at TFU.info]''
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===''Generation 2''===
[[File:G2-Hotspot.jpg|thumb]]
*'''Hot Spot''' (1994)
**''Team ID number:'' '''P1'''
**''Accessories'': 2 "Fireball Cannons", 2 mechanical arms, left & right "blast shields", Defensor hip shield, left & right Defensor fists, left & right Defensor footplates

: Hot Spot and the other Protectobots were to be [[redeco]]ed for ''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (toyline)|Generation 2]]'', but were ultimately canceled. No packaged samples of Hot Spot (or his similarly-unreleased Decepticon counterpart [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]]) have surfaced, and only a handful of test-shots are known to exist. He would have been red and orange with a teal chestplate. If you've seen this, you may in fact be glowing with an inner light. Or you're [[Shortround]].

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===Universe (2008)===
====Classic Series====
*'''Special Team Leaders''' (Legends multi-pack, 2008)

:"Autobot Hot Zone" (renamed for [[trademark]] reasons) is a redeco of the [[Legends Class|Legends]]-class [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|''Cybertron'' Optimus Prime]], transforming into a futuristic fire truck cab. He was only available in a Target-[[exclusive]] box set with [[Hun-Gurrr (G1)|Hun-Grrr]], [[Razorclaw (G1)|Razorclaw]], [[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]], and [[Scattershot (G1)|Scattorshot]].

:This mold was also used to make ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'' [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2008/Autobot/TFUHotZone/hotzone.htm More information on Hot Zone at TFU.info]''
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====Titanium Series====
[[File:TitaniumSeries-HotZone.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|No, I don't fight [[Megazarak (Universe)|Megazarak]]. Or [[Defensor (OTFCC)|do I???]]]]
*'''Hot Zone''' (6-inch Cybertron Heroes, 2009)

:''[[Titanium Series]]'' Hot Zone (now lacking the "Autobot" prefix) is a redeco of the 6-inch [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'']] [[Optimus Prime (RID)|Optimus Prime]], an idea which thematically calls back to the unreleased [[The Official Transformers Collectors Convention|OTFCC]] ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Defensor (OTFCC)|Defensor]], but otherwise doesn't resemble its deco. (Hot Zone is the super robot decoed like Hot Spot, while OTFCC Defensor's super robot was decoed like Defensor.) Like other Titanium Series toys, Hot Zone is partially constructed of [[die-cast]] metal. His vehicle mode has a ladder which rotates at its base, and two nozzles flip out of the end of the ladder.

:Unlike previous ''Titanium Series'' toys which were subtitled by the fictional universe/continuity they came from, Hot Zone and the other 2009 ''Titanium Series'' redecos are marketed under the 2008-2009 [[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|''Universe'' line]]. Hot Zone also lacks the display stand that previous ''Titanium Series'' toys included.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2009/Autobot/TitHotZone/hotzone.htm More information on ''Titanium'' Hot Zone at TFU.info.]''
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===Generations===
[[File:Transformers china hot spot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|The ''Universe'' Inferno mold: perfect for every fire truck Transformer. ''Ever''.]]
*'''Protectobot Hot Spot''' (Voyager, 2012)
**''Accessories'': "Water Blast" projectile

:''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Hot Spot is an Asian market and [[Toys"R"Us]]-exclusive redeco and [[retool]] of ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 toyline)|Universe]]'' [[Inferno (G1)#Universe (2008)|Inferno]] with a new head, transforming into a fictional firetruck based on the 2002–2007 [[Wikipedia:Pierce Manufacturing#Gallery of Pierce Apparatus|Pierce Contender]] series of trucks. He is armed with a non-removable arm cannon with a spring-loaded "water blast" projectile. As with [[Grapple (G1)#Transformers (2010)|Grappel]], the bars on top of his shoulders have been enlarged so that they work with [[C joint|3mm clips]]. The vehicle panels on Hot Spot's forearms can rotate 180° in order to get them more out of the way. This is a feature not documented in the instructions or shown in the image to the right, but it is shown in the [[packaging|package]] [[stock photography]].

:The original version of this sculpt was also used to make ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Pyro (G1)#Timelines|Spark]], and it was separately retooled to make ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Transformers]]'' Solar Storm Grappel. It was then redecoed into ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' [[Artfire (Headmasters)#United 2|Artfire]], using tooling from both the original Inferno version and the newer Grappel version of this sculpt.

::*''[http://tfu.info/2012/Autobot/GDOHotSpot/hotspot.htm More information on ''Generations'' Hot Spot at TFU.info]''
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[[File:GenerationsCWHotSpot.jpg|thumb|upright=1.33|29 years later, he can finally combine again. And he's not a redeco anymore!]]
*'''Protectobot Hot Spot''' (Voyager, 2015)
:Soon to be released as part of the Combiner Wars subline, Generations Hot Spot transforms from a firetruck resembling a modified [[Sentinel Prime (ROTF)|Rosenbauer Panther 6x6]] to a robot resembling his original design. He can combine with the Deluxe Class Blades, First Aid, Streetwise and Rook to form Defensor (with Groove now serving as a chest piece).

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===Transformers (2014)===
*'''Protectobots Evac Squad''' (two-pack, 2014)
:This "Protectobot Hot Spot" is a predominantly red redeco of [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|2010 ''Transformers'']]/''[[Reveal the Shield]]'' Solar Storm Grappel, but it kept the Inferno mold's original arms and fists. His colors ''might'' be vaguely based on [[Fire Chief]] or the unreleased ''Generation 2'' Hot Spot, but in the end, he simply looks like Grapple in Inferno's colors.

:Hot Spot is only available in a two-pack with [[Blades (G1)#Transformers (2014)|Protectobot Blades]], which was released as a [[Toys"R"Us]] exclusive in Hasbro's Asian markets, while in the United States, it was officially an [[Amazon (website)|Amazon]] exclusive that was later also flipped by other online retailers such as [[BigBadToyStore]] for a hefty markup.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/AKDHotSpot/hotspot.htm More information on Evac Squad Hot Spot on TFU.info]''

==Merchandise==
===Transformers Gum===
*'''Hot Spot''' (Candy toy, 2012)

:Part of [[Kabaya]]'s revived [[Transformers Gum]] series, Hot Spot is a model kit that comes with a piece of gum. He can combine with various members of Kabaya's [[Gaia Guardian|G Guardian]] series to form [[God Guardian]].

:Hot Spot is packaged with [[Eaglebreast#Transformers Gum|Eaglebreast]], who interacts with Hot Spot's wave-mate, [[Deathsaurus (Victory)#2012|Deszaras]].

==Notes==
[[File:G1HotSpotHeads.jpg|thumb|Sometimes you feel like a mouth. Sometimes you don't.]]
*Like [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]'s ever disappearing-and-reappearing visor, Hot Spot would occasionally switch between having a [[mouthplate]] or having a mouth drawn '''on''' his faceplate in his appearances on the original ''Transformers'' cartoon. The two most prominent instances of him having a mouth occur in "[[Ghost in the Machine (episode)|Ghost in the Machine]]" and "[[The Ultimate Weapon]]"—episodes that seem to have been animated by two different animation companies, suggesting that Hot Spot's mouth may have come from an alternate [[character model]]. Or, at least, a recurring [[José Delbo|artist mistake]].
*Hot Spot was given an [[homage]] in the ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' line; [[Firebot (Armada)|Firebot]] (a crash-response truck) was redecoed in light blue with red-and-white warning stripes.
*Hot Spot's vehicle mode is rendered quite differently in both the animated and comic book from his toy. Whereas the Mitsubishi Fuso has four front wheels and two in the rear, the opposite is in effect in the other media.
*Despite having his own robot mode stock photography on the box of his Generations release, the instructions use the stock photograph of Inferno with Hot Spot's newly sculpted head photoshopped (and over-sized) over the top.
===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Hot Spot''' (ホットスポット ''Hotto Supotto'')
*''French:'' '''Calorifêro''' (Canada)
*''Italian:'' '''Drago'''
*''Russian:'' '''Compote''' (Компот ''Kompot'')

==External links==
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Hot_Spot Hot Spot's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Cliffjumper (Animated)

2015-03-09T10:20:31Z

Pat: /* Animated */

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:''Cliffjumper is an [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:AniCliffjumperModel.jpg|right|upright=1.4|thumb|"Yeah, [[Bumblebee (Animated)|Bumblebee]] turning red in [[Nanosec (episode)|Nanosec]] was ''totally'' a reference to me. Totally."]]

Due to his temper, '''Cliffjumper''' never made it as a spy. He does excel at collecting data from those who did, however, and presents this information to his superiors. Given the data that passes in front of his optical sensors, he's pretty high-strung regarding potential Decepticon attacks, and always ready for a brawl.

==Fiction==
===''Animated'' cartoon===
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:''Voice actor'': [[David Kaye]] (English), [[Atsushi Imaruoka]] (Japanese)

Cliffjumper worked with [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|Sentinel Minor]] at the [[Autobot boot camp]]. He was listening wordlessly to Sentinel's complaints about his latest recruits, and casting aspersions on [[Ultra Magnus (Animated)|Ultra Magnus]]'s mental state. When asked about the echo that Sentinel was hearing, he gave no reply. Shortly after that, Cliffjumper hauled away the cadet [[Wasp]], who had been arrested for being a [[Decepticon]] spy. ([[Shockwave (Animated)|Too bad they got the wrong guy.]]) {{storylink|Autoboot Camp}}

[[File:Transwarped-Cliffjumpersecretary.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.4|He may have a temper, but he types 100 wpm!]]

Years later, Cliffjumper was assigned to [[Shockwave (Animated)|Longarm Prime]] in the intelligence division. During a series of concentrated Decepticon raids on [[space bridge]]s, Cliffjumper alerted his commander that Ultra Magnus had ordered the entire space bridge nexus shut down in order to prevent the Decepticons from using any to reach [[Cybertron (planet)#Animated|Cybertron]]. A little later, Longarm asked the unsuspecting Cliffjumper to dispose of some "[[Blurr (Animated)|sensitive material]]". {{storylink|TransWarped}}

Cliffjumper answered the call from Sentinel Prime on [[Earth]], gladly taking the good news that many of the Decepticons operating there had been taken into custody. He got to break it to the Primes that Ultra Magnus had been attacked and critically wounded by the ''true'' Decepticon spy, Longarm. {{storylink|Five Servos of Doom}}

[[File:FiveServosofDoom-CliffjumperVideoConferenceWithPrimes.JPG|right|thumb|upright=1.1]]

He later was given command of [[Cybertron Intelligence]] and a resulting seat on the [[Autobot High Council]]. He was part of their discussion with Sentinel, and bluntly poked holes in his former boss' claims of capturing Decepticons. {{storylink|Decepticon Air}}

When [[Optimus Prime (Animated)|Optimus Prime]] and his crew finally returned to Cybertron victorious over [[Megatron (Animated)|Megatron]], Cliffjumper was among the cheering crowd that welcomed him. {{storylink|Endgame, Part II}}

''Cliffjumper was soon seen holding the cubified [[Blurr (Animated)|Blurr]] in the stadium where the [[Team Stunticon|Stunticons]] were holding their performance.'' {{storylink|The Stunti-Con Job}}
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==Toys==
===Animated===
[[File:Cliffjumperactivators.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|What temper? He's just a bot in need of a hug.]]
*'''Cliffjumper''' (Activators, 2009)
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''TA-10'''

:Part of the fifth wave of ''[[Transformers Animated (toyline)|Animated]]'' [[Activators]], Cliffjumper is a [[retool]]ing of [[Bumblebee (Animated)#Activator|Bumblebee]]. He [[autotransformation|automatically transforms]] from a sub-compact car to [[robot mode]] via spring-loaded releases when you press his top-mounted police light.

[[File:Activators takaracliffjumper.jpg|right|upright=1.67|thumb|Now he's miffed because he didn't get a shiny new paint job like everyone else.]]
:Cliffjumper was released in Japan by [[TakaraTomy]] in 2010 as Autobot Intelligence Aide Cliffjumper. The main difference between this toy and the US release is the full-color Autobot symbol.

:Cliffjumper and his new-to-the-assortment wave-mate [[Dirge (Animated)|Dirge]] saw widespread release in European markets well before they made it to US stores in decent numbers, leading to a certain amount of fan-panic over their potential cancellation.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2009/Autobot/Cliffjumper/cliffjumper.htm More information on Cliffjumper at TFU.info]]

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==Notes==
* Character designer [[Derrick J. Wyatt]] personally requested this page be moved to "Cliffjumper (Animated)" versus "Little red Autobot" back when his only appearance was as an unnamed, voiceless cameo.
* It was stated in an interview with [[Marty Isenberg]] that Cliffjumper was originally supposed to be the [[Wasp|Autobot framed for being a spy]], but [[Hasbro]] ruled against the idea.<ref>[http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/interviews-27/tfw2005-interviews-transformers-animated-story-editor-marty-isenberg-165509/ TFW2005 interview with Marty Isenberg]</ref>
* According to [[Derrick J. Wyatt]], Cliffjumper is the acting head of Intel, but has not been promoted to a proper Prime yet.<ref>[https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=21975298&postID=7377197988130647403&isPopup=true Derrick J. Watt bloggy thing]</ref>
* Cliffjumper's voice changes in tone from episode-to-episode. Who knows why?
* In the ''[[Transformers Animated: The AllSpark Almanac II|AllSpark Almanac II]]'', Cliffjumper not trusting [[Mirage (Animated)|Mirage]] is a reference to their Generation 1 counterparts going through the same clash in the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|original ''The Transformers'' cartoon]] episode “[[Traitor]]”.
* Cliffjumper wears the [[65356-9292-346]] [[body-type]].

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Cliffjumper''' (クリフジャンパー ''Kurifujanpā'')

==References==
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Show-accuracy

2015-03-09T10:11:56Z

Pat:

[[Image:Ratchet-charactermodel.jpg|right|300px|thumb|So when we were kids, some of us pretended that he combined with that sled thing to make the full robot. But that's just [[Personal canon|crazy talk]].]]
Transformers characters are frequently represented in multiple different media, ranging from plastic toys to animation to comic books. Their appearances frequently vary between these, leading many fans to select one version that represents the character's "real" appearance and rate others in terms of their similarity to this one. '''Show-accuracy''' is typically a toy's resemblance to the animation's depiction of the same character; conversely, '''toy-accuracy''' is a show character's degree of similarity to the corresponding toy.

In most cases, Transformers are designed as toys first, with cartoon and comic [[character model]]s being artists' interpretations of the toy designs. As such, for the most part, it is toy-accuracy that has the most relevance to the production process. A notable exception to this rule is ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]'', which featured a large group of new characters whose toys were (for the most part) based on animation designs, rather than vice-versa.

Occasionally, toy and fiction designs are created cooperatively, such as the case of the [[live-action film series|live-action movie]] toys and ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' series. [[Hasbro]] worked closely with [[Industrial Light & Magic|ILM]] and [[Cartoon Network]] to ensure that the fictional designs for each series were workable as toys and that they could get the toys and fiction as close visually as possible (accounting, of course, for the movie and toy line's differing production schedules). In the case of the movie lines, Hasbro later released new-sculpt toys of existing designs that often managed to mimic the movie designs much better than the earlier toys. Just compare ''[[Transformers (2010 toyline)|Hunt for the Decepticons]]'' Deluxe Class [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#Deluxe Class toys 3|Battle Blades Bumblebee]] to 2007 ''[[Movie (toyline)|Movie]]'' Deluxe Class [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#TF2007ConceptCarmaro|Concept Camaro Bumblebee]].

Another exception frequently happens with [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s releases of Transformers [[franchise]]s in Japan. Due to the delays in importing shows, Takara frequently has the chance to tweak their releases to resemble the respective animation models better, mostly in regard to color schemes. The most notable example of this was the Japanese release of ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Machines]]'' as ''Beast Wars Returns''; the [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)|cartoon]] had already been around for years, so it was far easier for Takara simply to produce the toys in different, show-based colors.

In early ''[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]'' in particular, toy-accuracy and show-accuracy are both frequently very low, with the character models differing greatly from the toys. The gap steadily narrowed, to the point where Transformers in the [[Transformers: Cybertron (cartoon)|''Cybertron'' cartoon]] were often nearly identical to the toys due to the relatively simple design of their CGI models, sometimes to the absurdly literal point of including design oddities that probably wouldn't exist on "real" Transformers. The character model for [[Evac (Cybertron)|Evac]], for example, includes the push button that spins the toy's rotor blades.

Lately, however, show-accuracy does not achieve quite the same level of exactness. Characters in [[Transformers: Prime (franchise)|''Prime'' franchise]] have multiple toys, with the designs and engineering differing from the "First Edition" and "Robots in Disguise" releases as well as different [[size class]]es. Some of these toys feature greater show-accuracy than others, but even at their most accurate, the toys cannot hide their vehicle parts as well as their streamlined onscreen counterparts can. The toys occasionally have prominent chunks of [[kibble]] that are simply absent in the show, including the side panels on [[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee]]'s motorcycle.

In a few cases, [[Generation 1 reissues|''Generation 1'' reissues]] have been [[retool]]ed to enhance their resemblance to their animated counterparts. In the case of the [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] reissue, Takara not only retooled the toy but went so far as to [[redeco]] it.

Various non-transforming toys have been made that are designed to resemble ''Generation 1'' cartoon character designs better. Several [[Action Master]]s bore closer resemblance to their animation models (though many had color differences, if not outright sculpt issues). More recently, there have been lines such as the highly cartoon-accurate [[Heroes of Cybertron#Mega SCF|Mega SCF]] line and the [[Revoltech]] line. (Though the latter's designs ''specifically'' resembled [[Dreamwave Productions|Dreamwave's]] art style rather than ''Generation 1'' cartoons, Dreamwave's designs are frequently heavily based on ''Generation 1''-based models.)

Many non-posable (or at least, not ''very'' posable) figurines exist based on animation models as well, such as the ''Super Collection Figure/Heroes of Cybertron'' (or "SCF", not to be confused with Mega SCF) line, ''[[Titanium Series]]'' Robot Masters (not to be confused with ''[[Robotmasters (franchise)|Robotmasters]]''), or stylized examples like the ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' line.

Additionally, several newer Transformers take ''Generation 1'' cartoon designs into account to varying degrees, such as the [[The Transformers: Masterpiece|Masterpiece]] figures, Robot Masters figures, or more abstractly show-accuracy-inspired examples like the [[Titanium Series|Titanium Cybertron Heroes G1 figures]] and the ''[[Transformers: Classics|Classics]]'', ''[[Transformers: Universe (2008 franchise)|Universe]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' lines. Occasionally, new designs for a given series resemble old G1 characters for whom there were no adequately show-accurate likenesses produced originally—for instance, ''Energon'''s heavily G1-esque [[Megatron (Armada)/toys#Energon|Galvatron]]. TakaraTomy sometimes takes so-perceived "show-accuracy" to an absurd maximum with their ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' and ''[[Transformers United|United]]'' lines, where toys from Hasbro's ''Classics'', ''Universe'' and ''Generations'' lines are given almost slavish recreations of their ''Generation 1'' cartoon decos. The most notable example is [[Sideswipe (G1)|Lambor]], who had the supercharger engine accessory of his ''Universe'' Sideswipe release ''omitted'' in order to make him more "Generation 1-accurate" and visually distinguish him further from his brother [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]. Yes, that's right, TakaraTomy ''deliberately omitted an optional accessory for the sake of "show-accuracy"''.

Similarly, [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire's]] original G1 cartoon design deliberately bore little resemblance to his toy for licensing reasons, and with subsequent [[homage]] toys, Jetfire has come to resemble the cartoon design more accurately.

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Talk:Knock Out (Prime)

2015-03-09T10:02:27Z

Pat: /* Vehicle mode? */ new section

[[Image:DeusExMachina-Knockout.jpg|right|thumb]]

Jeez, dudes, he makes one comment about Prime's tires, and he's the next Side Burn? [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 00:43, 13 March 2011 (EST)
:I removed it, but apparently someone called Detour took issue with that and reverted me. --[[User:Peter Damian|Peter Damian]] 05:24, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::Because your words are not law. First of all, the stealth link is there to show precedence, not to say "DUDE HE'S THE EXACT SAME AS SIDEBURN", and second because he does appear to have a serious thing going on for cars... especially Prime. He's gay for Optimus. His comment about Prime was a character-defining moment that really belongs in the intro paragraph. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 05:30, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::I think "gay for Optimus" is a little strong. I do think the note should stay, because it is pretty notable that Knock Out shows up next to Optimus complimenting him on his rims and build. We've built up intro paragraphs on less, and schmoozing Optimus's looks isn't really an everyday occurrence in Transformers. That, coupled with Starscream's "Oh, you're one of THOSE." Oh, right, and he compliments Optimus because he reminds him of his [[Breakdown (WFC)|Partner]]. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:27, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::I may be too old to know for sure, but wasn't he just taunting Prime? The way the kids these days talk? I mean, he was setting Prime up to get blasted, which might indicate it wasn't legitimate schmoozing. Just a thought. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:21, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::I don't think Knock Out was legitimately trying to make out with Optimus, no. Try to make him uncomfortable or set him off his game, probably. That doesn't mean his compliments were empty. I think he meant it, but was using it as a disorienting weapon, not as a "I WILL TOTALLY DO YOU LATER" sort of thing. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:26, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::Whenever something like that line turns into a pun, I guess I kind of discount it as character development. But double entendres, I guess. Off to watch the dang episode again. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:49, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Actually, it's my opinion that Knock Out was admiring "the awesome truck parked over there," not Optimus. He showed no signs of recognizing Prime as a Transformers until he, um, transformed. Breakdown fired at the building, not at Optimus. But that's just me.
:::::::- [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 23:20, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Yeah, I never thought Knock Out knew Prime was a robot. He was just a cool looking truck that Knock Out wanted to ...do whatever with. I mean, you're a medic and the leader of your opposing faction is sitting right there, you generally don't go up to him all HEY BIG BOY HOW'S IT HANGIN' (unless you're Comics Ratchet, I mean). [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 07:57, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::If he didn't know it was a Transformer, then I'd expect some reaction shot from him when he found out. He's also clearly introducing Optimus to Breakdown, who will shoot him, which otherwise makes no sense. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:16, 14 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Personally I think he was just complimenting Prime's truck mode without knowing it was Optimus. He's in love with himself. Any accusations that he's gay will be the same thing as G1 Tracks.[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 14:01, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::Also I think we should change things around a bit. I think he only likes cars because he thinks they're cool not because they remind him of Breakdown. Was there an official source that said this?[[User:DinoFreakUSA|DinoFreakUSA]] 00:34, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::::"You're reeeeeeaaaaaaaal heavy-duty, just like my friend here." The statement in the article is factual: He likes big trucks, and he thinks they're like Breakdown. Your "because" is something you read into it. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 01:07, 21 March 2011 (EDT)
Starscream's "you're one of ''those''" line is a rhetorical device letting everybody know that the cartoon isn't going to go there. Since he immediately explained that he was taking about car-mode Decepticons. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:02, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

== GAY? ==

That's a little inapropriate for a show that children watch, and I'm sure he just likes cars and commented on Optimus to distract him.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 13:46, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:I'd say the brutal death, zombiefication and further brutal manglings of Cliffjumper and the constant brutal eradication of Vehicon troopers are far more inappropriate for a children's show than a bot who likes other dudebots. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:57, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::If it were humans, yes, but robots, parents probably don't care much.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 14:23, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Then why do you care? Are you afraid there'll be gay bot marriage or gay bot sex? They don't even have straight bot marriage or straight bot sex. And honestly, leaving homosexuals out of the show could give out a bad message, you know? "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings, except homos, gross!" -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:08, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
::::I'm getting Tramp flashbacks from this conversation.--[[User:Spin-Out|Spin-Out]] 18:32, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:You are inappropriate for children. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:33, 3 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::I personally don't care, but parents might overreact and try to sue Hasbro or some shit.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 16:29, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
::::::Sue them over what, exactly? Take your conspiracy theories to a forum, please. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 16:35, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
: What a great birthday present, this person. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:05, 7 April 2011 (EDT)
:: All I'm saying they wouldn't suggest him being gay, because of very critical parents who are offended by that. And this is to Spin-Out: Why?--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 15:19, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Sexual innuendo can happen in kids shows, dude. Sexual innuendo's like half of Beast Wars. But I have a feeling that it's not these fictional parents you're invoking who really has the problem here. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:58, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::Odd that the parents would have a problem with implications that a character might be gay, but have no problems with death and grisly dismemberment. Not to mention fake profanity. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 17:48, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
::::Which I already pointed out to him at the very beginning of this nonsense. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:51, 8 April 2011 (EDT)
:::::Truth be told, a lot of people have a bigger problem with sex/sexuality than violence (heck, didn't the TF:P crew say they could do violence but not swearing? Not my idea of taboo hierarchy either). Of course, this doesn't change the fact that Primo over here is trying to keep a clean slate by presenting his problem as someone else's problem he's merely trying to raise awareness off. Which I don't get either, because the note states this is how fans interpret it, not that the TF:P crew intended it this way. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 05:39, 9 April 2011 (EDT)
::I don't think it's something worth mentioning in the page (probably 100% coincidence), but his Knock Out voice is exactly the same as his Mercurymon voice from Digimon, which was a character that wore prominent makeup in both its forms. It's pretty clear that Knock Out's at least ''acting'' as if he's homosexual.[[Special:Contributions/98.222.213.161|98.222.213.161]] 16:01, 14 May 2011 (EDT)

== On a COMPLETELY different topic... ==

Anyone object to changing Knock Out's quote to "I'm not just an automobile; I'm an automobile enthusiast"? It's basically just a better phrasing of the current quote, anyway.
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 2:37 PM, 10 April 2011 A.D.
: I was gonna just go ahead and do that anyway, because I can, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. In other words, go ahead. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:46, 10 April 2011 (EDT)
isn't it notable that he has no insignia? - [[User:SoundWave|SoundWave]] 18:27, 19 October 2013 (EDT)
:No, because Prime characters without visible insignias are a dime a dozen. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:13, 19 October 2013 (EDT)

== EDIT ==
I edited out the part in notes claiming the Botcon comment was "unintentionally insulting" because someone's personal feelings on the matter of a joke does not belong in a wiki, even the TFwiki. Please, do not put in your personal feelings on a subject when this is meant to be objectively informative and not an opinionated exposition. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]]
:This isn't "personal feelings". Comparing homosexuality to a glitch ''is'' insulting to homosexuals, regardless of whether or not the comment was intentionally insulting. It certainly seems more like your personal feelings on the matter are what's making you remove it. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:00, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::You are viewing it as your opinion that it is insulting. My personal feelings on the matter are not what is making me remove it, it is the fact that your opinions on what you make the comment out to be are leaking into the entry, where it does not belong. There is no need to say that it is an insulting comment, because it is not. It was not meant to be insulting, and the only way things can be "unintentionally insulting" is when you use your personal feelings and views to interpret a comment. Again, wiki articles should be objective, and it is your personal opinion that it was insulting. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]]
:::Please pick up a dictionary and look up the definition of '''''unintentional'''''. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:08, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::::I am well aware of what the word "unintentional" means, but you are making it out as an insult, intentional or not, when it is not meant as such in any regard. Again, it is you viewing and interpreting the comment through your own opinions and feelings which makes it insulting in any regard, and it is, yet again, not something worth contributing to any wiki article. It is but one phrase that the article can do without. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]]
:::::'''Words mean things'''. To compare homosexuality to a glitch IS insulting, regardless of whether it was intended or not. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:16, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::::[http://genderbitch.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/intent-its-fucking-magic/ Intent! It's friggin' magic.] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:53, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::::A glitch caused a ''robot'' to be homosexual-ish. On a scale of shocking statements, that... doesn't seem all that shocking, honestly. If he were human it would be one thing, but he's a robot. It would be like if a glitch in the AllSpark caused a robot to crave pizza, or wear pants, or any number of things robots don't ordinarily do. Not really an insult to pizza lovers and pants wearers. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 03:47, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::::You cannot simply divorce a statement from its real world context just because it's about a fictional robot. "Pizza lovers" and "pants wearers" do not face discrimination, bigotry, and hatred. Your comparison is absurd. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:22, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::The context ''is'' fictional robots. Applying it to the real world would be ''taking it out of context''. That's just how "context" works. They talked about how there was no "gay" or "straight" on Cybertron, then, in order to explain Knock Out's otherwise unexplainable behavior (because there is no gay or straight on Cybertron), they said a glitch in the AllSpark did it. [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:53, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::No, the ''context'' is the systemic oppression of.... eh, never mind you clearly don't get it at all. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 23:31, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::This is an article on Knock Out, not an article on the semantics of what was said and what wasn't said. This isn't a critique on the perceived injustices or political incorrectness of a Botcon panel, this is about Knock Out. Your feelings on the matter are irrelevant to the page's content.[[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]]
:::::::I'm sorry, but TFWiki ''is'' about pointing out these sorts of things, be they [[Denton J. Tipton|editors blaming gaffes on fans]] or [[Pat Lee|unscrupulous business practices]] or, yes, comments that turn out unintentionally insulting.. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 20:31, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:If I said "There was a glitch in the AllSpark the day that Fred was created", Fred would be more then justified to treat that as an insult. I don't see why this is any different. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:45, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
: So if I said "God had a bad case of the squirty-shits the day Mangytron was born", that wouldn't be insulting? Good to know! (And yes, the "glitch" quote IS insulting.) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:35, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:You are all taking this entirely out of context. The TFwiki should be objective and abstain from personal feelings and comments. The articles should not reflect the author's opinions, but simply the content. If you are going to insult me because I am trying to be objective and have some level of quality, then that is very childish of you, considering I have done nothing of the sort. Again, that comment is reflected solely on opinion and not fact. That is the end of this asinine discussion. The TFwiki is about Transformers, not commentary on socially offensive jokes or phrases expressed through a Botcon panel joke. Keep that on TF message boards. The Wiki is not your soapbox. That is all. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]] 22:22, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::I'm sorry, but considering the Wiki's moderators (abates and M Sipher) are disagreeing with you, I'd say you're not in any position to say what the Wiki is and isn't for. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:26, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
:::I do very much enjoy the redlinked newcomer lecturing the admin what the site is all about. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:34, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::::I know the fandom is big now and all but jesus, it's like, the posters here are Sipher and Walky and frickin' me, and you're all YOU SHOULDN'T BE POSTING OPINIONS AND STUFF ON ARTICLES motherfucker why do you think we took over this thing in the first place? WE ARE HERE TO GRIND OUR AXES. GRINDY GRINDY GRINDY. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 22:49, 13 June 2011 (EDT)
::You're several years and 13,451 articles too late to try and dictate what this wiki is and isn't, which makes your claims of lack of context all the funnier. Also, "some level of quality" has not remotely been proven on your part, inasmuch the ''only'' thing you've done here is get in an edit war and try and tell everyone what we ''should'' be doing. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:09, 13 June 2011 (EDT)

I guess I'm a glitch! (So not helping, am I?) Let's all back off and breathe a bit. No matter what we say, someone somewhere is going to get offended. [[User:AUGH AUGH AUGH|AUGH AUGH AUGH]] 01:52, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

This is all a rather silly issue, particularly given how informal this wiki is and always has been. Leave it as is, and if you disagree, get over it. Go have some ice cream. It should cheer you up. [[User:Monty Prime|Monty Prime]] 03:36, 14 June 2011 (EDT)

[http://rockdown.tumblr.com/post/6513500039/if-i-could-have-the-transformers-fandoms-attention-for I think this is the living definition of "crying some more".] - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:54, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:The first comment being "They're faggots!" really brings this all home, doesn't it. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:58, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:All I'm getting from that is "MY HIVEMIND IS BETTER THAN YOURS! NYAH NYAH NYAH-NYAH!". --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:07, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:Ahhh. Hilarity. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:27, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:Gaybashing: it's not just for the neurotypical anymore. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 19:06, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::And since Chris opened the gateways, I ended up finding Mangrytron's topic that led him here to kick up a storm. [http://doodlebob.tumblr.com/post/6503456665/darthshadow-when-asked-at-botcon-2011-the My favorite line has to be "Do you seriously all have nothing better to do than whine about the most inane of issues and act as if that’s the reason The Man is holdin’ you all down?".] --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:42, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:lol you guys went through the trouble to find my tumblr blog and act as if i'm gaybashing or something else entirely retarded like that. i didn't insult you, i didn't attack you, and you're all going apeshit over nothing. stay classy TF fandom. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]] 21:00, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::We will. And you can stay 15. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 21:06, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::Wow, you telling US to stay classy? Anyone who refers to someone as a "nasty fat fanc**t" has lost their right to tell someone else to stay classy. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:09, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:::protip: that wasn't me who said it but [http://rockdown.tumblr.com a friend of mine], but go ahead and get angry at the words being said. That's all any of you seem to be doing; getting angry over words that hold no weight or mean anything at all. Really, you're insulting me, going out of your way to say I'm gaybashing and implying I'm homophobic because I say a wiki should be an objective source of information and not a place to voice your opinions. That's how all GOOD Wikis are run, but none of you are concerned about being good, you're just concerned about voicing your loud and rather inane opinions. Calm your asses down and realize that I haven't attacked anyone; the only one who is attacking anyone is you guys. Or don't calm down and continue on. It's really, really funny. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]] 21:15, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::We haven't insulted you, our words hold no weight or meaning. If you choose to be offended by them, that's your problem. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:20, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
:::::I'm not offended by it, I just thought I'd point out the fact you're all trying to paint me in a light where I'm some homophobic, uncaring, gaybasher is really immature, especially when I did no such thing to any of you from the get-go. The funny thing is, I'm not even straight. [[User:Mangrytron|Mangrytron]] 21:28, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::You'd be surprised just how many homophobes aren't straight. -- [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 21:32, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::Good for you. As a gay person, I'm still calling you socially dense and immature. If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend that subtle homophobia doesn't exist and that words have "no weight or mean anything at all", feel free to do so and leave the rest of us alone. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 21:37, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::I'm going to echo Interrobang's comments. Also, the best part is all that drama over on tumblr will do nothing but net TFWiki more page visits and more free publicity. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:59, 14 June 2011 (EDT)
::::::That's like being one of those people who says, "I'm not racist! I have lots of black friends!" It doesn't help your case. I know this whole thing has been retreaded to hell and back, but I felt necessary to put in my two cents on the matter. The initial statement they made at Botcon was cute; about the Decepticons having a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy. That's funny, and avoids addressing the issue without making anyone feel uncomfortable. The follow-up, on the other hand, is a slap, because it means that any characters that exhibit that behavior (be it actual homorobosexualism or just narcissism to an nth degree) are a MISTAKE. Which means that their personality traits are a MISTAKE. And I'm sorry, that just doesn't sit well, regardless of what personality traits are in question. It's like saying the Allspak glitched when it made Optimus, causing him to be heroic. It doesn't matter if it's decrying homosexuality at that point, it's saying that a character's primary character traits are wrong, and caused by a screw-up in their creation. If you can't see how ''this'' would be insulting, there is no hope for you.

::::::Also, for the record, I for one welcome our homosexual robot overlords. --[[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 03:48, 12 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::::Actually I DON'T see how it is insulting. A "glitch" in the AllSpark is the TF equivalent of a mutation. And homosexuality is a mutation. But so is heterosexuality. And so is sex in general. And blue eyes. And brown hair. And five fingers. And the scent glands of skunks. And the manes of lions. And purple flowers. And photosynthesis. And any other trait with any degree of genetic causation. ALL current lifeforms are mutations, mutation is an "error" or "mistake" in the DNA, therefore ALL lifeforms are mistakes. Glitches, if you will. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:43, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::::With all due respect, Khajidha, but you don't know what a mutation is. Or a glitch. Or context. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 14:50, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::As a biology instructor I should hope I know what a mutation is. But as a teacher, I could probably have phrased my statements better. I was not talking of a trait as a mutation that occurs when each lifeform originates, but of each trait as originating in evolutionary history by means of mutation. The mutation that led to sex occurred hundreds of millions of years ago, but it was a mutation just the same. ALL life is different from the initial life form. In fact, the first self-replicating molecule (lifeform if you will) was RNA based. DNA itself is a change, a mutation, an error, a glitch. To me, the statement that a possible robo-homosexuality is due to a glitch in the AllSpark is the equivalent of saying that human homosexuality is due to a genetic cause (not a choice), and I fail to see how that is something the homosexual community is upset about. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:08, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::A mutation is not a glitch. A glitch is a fault, that results in something not working properly. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:15, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::::Which is what a mutation is. The mutated DNA strand does not function the way the original strand did, the way it is "supposed" to work. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:31, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::::Except that a mutation can still create something that works properly. A glitch outright causes an error. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 15:36, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::Just so everyone knows, the ''context'' is that a glitch caused a giant robot from a planet that doesn't even have "gay" or "straight" to act gay-like. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:51, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::::::::::On the barest side of technicality, Khajidha is right and Detour is wrong about mutations being glitches (but not at all to say that the BotCon line wasn't insulting. If you have to say "barely technically", then it should have been phrased better). Any mutation, whether it improves the chances of survival, lowers them, or doesn't effect them, is a glitch in DNA's process. As a reminder, that process is to ''exactly'' transcribe the existing strands. Mutations are not a purposeful, "natural" mechanic of DNA transcription -- DNA transcription doesn't have a "for this part, choose a base pair at random" step. The overwhelming majority of mutations are actually caused by the near-constant damage to DNA that results from base pairs that contain radioactive isotopes undergoing decay; I believe the rate is "6 mutations per second", but that was from one of Asimov's old papers, so it's probably far out-of-date.
:So on the ''barest'' side of the matter, calling it a "glitch" is a perfectly legitimate, not-necessarily-biased way to describe it. However, BotCon really should have realized that the primary way to interpret that is as a glitch in ''Knock-Out'', not the "process of RNA (that's what robots have, right?) transcription", sooo...yeah, it's unintentionally insulting.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 16:25, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::They didn't say "glitches are how every Transformer is made". They said "There was a glitch THAT DAY when Knock Out was made". They're using glitch in the electronics term, not the silly "robotic equivalent of a DNA mutation" way that Khajidha is touting. After all, as he says... mutations happen all the time. But computer glitches are outright error that cause a program not to work properly, or at all. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 16:33, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:::Oy, really? Then yeah, that's f'd up.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:25, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::For reference, I didn't go to any trouble - I just found it when someone who has issues with the wiki posted a link it on Twitter, and even THEY thought you were being ridiculous. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 04:48, 15 June 2011 (EDT)

== Authoritorial Intent. ==

Was one of the reasons for Knock Out's name change really because Lugnut wasn't sexy enough? Or are we just going with the flow of the article? Because I've never seen the Notes section as a place for joking as such. [[User:TheMZone|TheMZone]] 17:03, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:Yes to your first question. Although the claim needs to be sourced. BotCon, I think? [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:14, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
::I believe it was said at BotCon, yeah. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 17:17, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

== Question about what side he's on? ==

in the Finale Episode of Season 3 he attempted to switched sides, Miko knocked him out before he got any answer from Optimus Prime, but knowing Prime he more then likely would have said yes (with some guidelines) so is he now an Autobot or at least a "Non-Aligned" Transformer? [[User:Chasemarc1701|Chasemarc1701]] 19:23, 27 July 2013 (EDT)
:Until we know otherwise, stick with Decepticon. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 19:57, 27 July 2013 (EDT)

My logic: If TFP-Prime can have a little Decepticon symbol at the top of his page for that time he was Orion Pax, then I don't see what the problem is, but just to be sure, we should probably wait until Predacons Rising comes out to confirm his allegiance. {{unsigned|PunchSydeiron|22:20, September 12, 2013 (EDT)}}
:He would have to be admitted into the Autobots as a member. Decepticons have allied themselves with the Autobots in other continuities and remained Decepticons. I'm thinking specifically of the Unicron Trilogy. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:43, 12 September 2013 (EDT)
::And Carnivac from Marvel UK. And Blackarachnia pre-''[[Crossing the Rubicon]]''. And Octane post-''[[Thief in the Night]]''. And... --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 10:15, 13 September 2013 (EDT)
:::Well If you've now watched "Transformers Prime: Predacons Rising" he fully changed side's to the Autobots, He actual was glad to see Optimus Prime. So his side preference would be Autobots. [[User:Speedy Question Mark|Speedy Question Mark]] 18:23, 15 September 2013 (EDT)
::::The movie's not out until October. Unless you're watching it through less-than-legal means, in which case it'd help to check [[Help:Official info|the Wiki's guidelines regarding leaked stuff]]. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:26, 15 September 2013 (EDT)

:Well, he really does seem to chance sides in Predacons Rising, what with the whole "knocking out Starscream, siding with the Autobots as the last line of defense against Unicron, and the way Optimus praised him for his actions" thing.

== Vehicle mode? ==

The Deluxe toy says it resembles a One-77, but i think it looks more like a DBS or a V8 Vantage.

Skywarp (MW)

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{{disambig3|Skywarp}}
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:''Skywarp is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:MachineWarsSkywarp.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]

'''Skywarp''' is a clone of [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]], and has inherited his template's love of mean pranks. Unfortunately, this tendency to engage in absent-minded trickery means he needs constant supervision to ensure he performs his actual job of leading a squadron of [[Skywarp drone]]s. He lacks the drive and intelligence necessary to be an effective leader, and sometimes he'll just dump his troops on fellow clone [[Thundercracker (MW)|Thundercracker]] and wander off to do his own thing.

[[Primus]] knows why [[Jhiaxus (G2)|Jhiaxus]] ever put him in charge of anything.

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''Wings Universe''====
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{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Termination}} {{storylink|A Common Foe}}}}

==Toys==
===Timelines===
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*'''Machine Wars''' (box set, [[BotCon 2013]])
**''Accessories'': 2 missiles, 2 missile launchers

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:Skywarp is a [[retool]] of [[Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (toyline)|''Revenge of the Fallen'']] [[Dirge (ROTF)|Dirge]], transforming into a [[Wikipedia:Harrier Jump Jet|Harrier]]-like fighter-bomber jet with a deco based on [[Skywarp (G1)/toys#Machine Wars|Skywarp]]'s ''[[Machine Wars: Transformers|Machine Wars]]'' body and a new head to match. He has two spring-loaded missile launchers that mount under his wings or, in robot mode, onto his arms, though his left arm's [[kibble]] makes this an awkward fit. His [[Mech Alive]] gimmick is spinning gears on his chest when you lift his arms. He comes in a boxset with [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]], [[Strika (BM)|Strika]], [[Obsidian (BM)|Obsidian]], and [[Megaplex (MW)|Megaplex]].

:This mold was also used to make BotCon 2013 [[Thundercracker (MW)|Thundercracker]], while its original version was redecoed into [[Jetblade]].

::*''[http://tfu.info/2013/Decepticon/BCSkywarp/skywarp.htm More information on Skywarp at TFU.info]''

[[Category:Clones]]
[[Category:BotCon exclusives]]
[[Category:Machine Wars Decepticons]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]
[[Category:Wings Universe Decepticons]]

Talk:Misconceptions and urban legends about Transformers

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How about the statement that Metrotitan is made of the ghosts of dead Decepticons? I know I've heard that thrown around a time or two back in the day.... [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 20:23, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Thats Violinjyger and it's true.

Alright, how about something about how G2 is G2 and everything after the movie, while technically a second generation, is not "G2" (although I recall hearing that Pat Lee regarded it as such).--[[User:Zodberg|Zodberg]] 22:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

== Addition to the Beast Wars Section: Black Arachnia was inspired by an Asian stripper ==

Can some please add this? The guy from Mainframe said (you can find his post on A.T.T.) that their animator, WHO IS OF ASIAN DESCENT, was taken to a strip club before he worked on BA's animation model. There was NEVER any mention of an Asian stripper by ANYONE from Mainframe, EVER!
:I had forgotten this one, but it DID have a serious amount of play in the late 90's fandom... [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 07:42, 8 November 2010 (EST)
::90's fandom? I was hearing it through a good chunk of the 2000s. [[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] 18:29, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
:::I just heard it a few days ago. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 18:38, 7 May 2013 (EDT)

== French Starscream ==

I went ahead and removed the entry about Starscream. First of all, while I don't know about Bigbot's reliability... the sound clips ARE legit. And the French source you pulled from TFW2005 referred to Starscream being male in the CARTOON (ie "episodes") rather than the movie itself, which used an entirely different dub team.

I'm French Canadian, all my ancestors came to Canada from France, between the ages of three and ten, I rented the movie in French every single time I was at my grandparents' house. So I know what I'm talking about here. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:I would also assume that the French fans interviewed to dispell that theory ALSO knew what they were talking about. And [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhOCYZRxypM this Youtube clip] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAodylu8rWw this other Youtube clip] don't make him sound very female to me. It's your word against both other French fans and evidence I just watched with my own eyes, man. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:25, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::I dunno how many more bloody times I must say this, the French movie used a different dub team from either French dubs of the cartoon. I even pointed it out in Starscream's article. Yes, in the TV show he was a guy, but in the movie, the new dub team made him and Shrapnel girls. [http://www.bigbot.com/mp3/transformers_mp3.shtml#Femmes Listen to those clips for proof.] Those are legit from the TFTM I watched growing up. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:36, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

::::I tried to get Nevermore to clarify on this when he made the changes, but he was unable to provide more info. Can you confirm that Starscream was characterized / referred to as female in the movie, along with the feminine voice? I think it's important that we clarify the myth as "partly true" rather than just delete it, but I want to be sure we have it all nailed down. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:40, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
:::::Well, aside from the obvious voice, Megatron says to Starscream "Tu es une imbécile." In English, "an idiot" would be used to refer to a male or a female idiot, but in French the article varies in gender, were Starscream a male he would have said "Tu es un imbécile." instead of "une imbécile". ([[Wiki:French_articles_and_determiners#The_indefinite_article|French articles and determiners]])
:::::Shrapnel being female is OBVIOUS from the fact that Kickback calls him/her "Mademoiselle Shrapnel", which translates to "Miss Shrapnel".
:::::I'm trying to locate video clips of the French dub of TFTM to have more than just sound clips but so far I haven't found any... not sure where I could find a VHS tape in this day and age either... --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
::::::For those wondering why Shrapnel's being mentioned here, you can read [[Talk:Shrapnel_(G1)|this link]], which is how this whole issue was brought up in the first place. But note that I've never questioned (for I've had no reason to do so) movie Shrapnel's femininity.--[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 23:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

==Repackaged old toys==
I think we should also have something on the notion that new-packaging releases of older toys are old unsold items taken back from store shelves, pulled from their cards, and RE-packaged onto new cards. I mean, this HAS to be bullshit. But I'm not sure of the best way to phrase it, since it's not a ridiculous argument that comes up very often. I wonder if Kyde has any insights on this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:20, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't know that I've ''ever'' heard somebody claim that, but admittedly, I have been out of online TF discussions for a year or two, and have never read the web boards regularly. I think that unless this is something that actually comes up semi-frequently, there's not much reason to bring it up in the article. --[[User:Steve-o|Steve-o]] 22:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
::I've heard it said repeatedly that REDECOs are unsold toys that are sent back to Hasbro and repainted. Of course, I've only ever heard it said on Tformers. Those posters probably aren't competent enough to be held accountable for their actions. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:29, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
::I've seen it several times over the course of years. Certainly more than I've seen "Shrapnel's a girl in France" and "Geman movie omitted Starscream's death"... which is never before the wiki. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 23:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
:::Yeah, what Siph said. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 00:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I've recently had a discussion with a common friend of ours, who is a longtime hardcore collector with inside contacts, and even ''he'' believed in the "repackaged toys are REpackaged in the literal sense" theory until I pointed out to him how expensive that would be. So I agree with Sipher here that it deserves a place on this page.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 00:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

==Featured Article?==
If we can get a few pictures... like the catalog image of blue-sided Bluestreak, Raiden in the Headmasters cartoon, a few other things... I think this page should have Featured status. It's important shit. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 22:54, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
:I'd say all the reference links are going to need alternate text before we can safely call this a featured article.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 00:03, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

=="Confirmed" myths?==
Would it be worth it to add urban legends that are actually true? (I'm thinking here things like "Sunstreaker and Sideswipe's/Starscream and Skywarp's tech specs were swapped, there was a Unicron toy planned during G1 that had an Orson Welles voice chip, etc.) Some of those things almost reach the status of urban legends in the fandom (not as much as they used to, now that information is easier to come by, but still.) Also, we need to add "Armada was supposed to tie together all previous TF continuities" or whatever the dumb rumor was. Also, maybe something to explain exactly what the RTV dubs really are (made in Malaysia, not Singapore, did they REALLY air in Hawaii/Mexico/wherever as I've seen people claim, etc.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
: Also, "There was a Transformers breakfast cereal with Bumblebee-shaped marshmallows and when you poured milk on it, they changed from car mode to robot mode." A kid at my school SWORE he had eaten this. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 13:42, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::I have no evidence for it but I DO remember seeing a Commemorative Sideswipe at TRU. Having no interest in G1 at the time I didn't buy it (though it might;ve been some other commemorative Autobot; I dunno for sure but my memory genuinly has the image of sideswipe).--[[User:BlackStarscream|BlackStarscream]] 01:27, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

==TF:TM soundtrack evidence of "lost" scene==
The 10 seconds in question are from 02:29 to 02:39 in "Death of Optimus Prime" on the original soundtrack CD. There was at least one other release of the soundtrack, right? Can anyone check and see if the mysterious sequence is there too? Or, hell, if anyone has heard of DiCola giving an alternate explanation, please disabuse me of the whole notion. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 19:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:I'll have to dig out my copy of [[Lighting Their Darkest Hour: The Complete Music Score for TFTM]], but I seem to recall ''the entire album'' clocking in at several full minutes longer than the entire movie, and that's before one considers [[The Touch]] or any of the other songs. I recall from somewhere that DiCola once did an interview in which he talked about it being unusually difficult to score the film, and IIRC it was because he had to score based off of the storyboards rather than the finished footage. If so, it could be that DiCola simply over-estimated how long certain scenes would run and so scored for every sequence start-to-finish like that, at which point the score was trimmed to fit the actual timing for the sequences and to fit in around the other songs. [[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] 18:19, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
::I just had a thought. We know that there were a number of scenes which made it as far as the storyboard stage before being cut. Could DiCola have been given these scenes to score as well? If so, then the combination of "DiCola scoring scenes that were cut" and "DiCola misjudging the length of each scene" could easily explain why the full score is so much longer than the actual movie. [[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] 21:09, 10 July 2013 (EDT)

== Misconception? ==

"A misconception usually held by casual fans or nostalgic adults is that of the original 1980's cartoon being the best fiction and most influential/successful line to date, with all other successors being unpopular and/or unsuccessful ventures.
Some of this misconception is based on the fact that most of the original audience stopped watching and following the franchise after its cancellation, or even before (as it wasn't "cool" to be kiddy once the puberty hit). Without any exposure to the market, the toyline and the new cartoons, they simply assume that Transformers has sunk in both popularity, quality and sales, since it's not what they remember."

Any facts/sources to back this up? I'd bet that actual sales between the demise of G1 and Micheal Bay stepping in were significantly lower, which would seriously contradict what's being said here.

:According to lists that used to be published in Tomarts(?) magazine, Transformers has consistently placed in the top 3 boys toys properties since the beginning of Beast Wars. Robots in Disguise and Armada both reported record profits, though Energon and Cybertron didn't seem to match Armada's success. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:56, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
::How ''did'' Energon and Cybertron sell, anyway? It seems widely known that Armada sold like hotcakes, but nobody ever brings up the two sequels in that regard. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

==Team names and vowel breaks==
While I'm good with the "Seacons" inclusion... well, bot every Decepticon team had an "i" vowel break... like the Predacons. And not every team had a vowel break at all... like the Triggercons, and arguably the Firecons. On the other hand... were the Seacons the only ''two-syllable name'' team, where everyone else had three? Nothing else is springing to mind... --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:Whether it's a "a" or an "i" is kinda moot; the point is that there ''was'' a break in all the teams before them. (FWIW, to a lazy Southern tongue like mine, the "i" and "a" are almost indistinguishable. It all comes out "uh-cons" regardless.) As for the contemporaneous Triggercons, there's no ambiguity in their name, as there's no vowel there to be misappropriated. Right or wrong, the extraneous "uh" in "see-uh-cons" comes from the "a" in "Sea". Last question: "Firecon" is only two syllables, innit? -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 20:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::It's only two syllables if you're a dirty southerner. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 20:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::I'm a Southerner, and I say it "Fie-er". Any rate, the point is the current entry says "all teams had 'i' vowel breaks". Which ain't true... I'm more inclined to believe it's a "three-plus syllables" pattern. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:11, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:::(D'oh. Terrorcons!) --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 20:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::::See, I think we should start calling the Pretender Monsters the Pretendicons, just to keep with the pattern. [[User:Semysane|Semysane]] 08:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

==Soundwave's buttons==
I think there are actually two separate issues at work here. I'd always been under the impression that G1 Soundwave underwent a running change in both the U.S. and Japan--going from the distinct, inset early buttons to the big protruding single chrome block later. After that change occurred, the mold was altered to turn it into Soundblaster. That was why Hasbro said at first they couldn't use the tooling anymore--because the door had been changed. The Takara bookbox reissue solved this by making a new version with a hybrid single door / late chrome button style, and also keeping another version with all of Soundblaster's features still around. Have I completely misunderstood the issue? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 14:35, 3 April 2009 (EDT)

== R-rating ==

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=40510

Huh.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:13, 8 June 2009 (EDT)
:Didn't they clarify that he was actually talking about Disturbia, Shia's OTHER PG-13 movie that came out that summer? - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:19, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

== Plagiarizing ==

Yeah. [http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/blog/9107] [http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/blog/9113] [http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/blog/9160] [http://www.thatguywiththeglasses.com/blog/9169] Awesome work stealing our content and adding your poorly written own stuff, sucker!--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:56, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:I like how he added his own dumb "conclusions", which mostly contradict the copy+pasted text and are just completely wrong too. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 17:38, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
::I've talked with some Brian guy over at that site, and he says he'll be deleting the blogs. Victoly? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:46, 13 July 2009 (EDT)
:::Hasn't happened yet.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 06:58, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Surprise! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:48, 14 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::Looks like it's been removed.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:10, 31 July 2009 (EDT)

== "Companies" section? ==

I've seen the misconception that Tomy bought Takara (rather than merging with them on equal terms) thrown around quite a few times...What else could go into such a section?

Additionally, thise page has grown quite large. Should we split it?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 19:12, 26 July 2009 (EDT)

==Variations in Europe==

''Some toys were exclusively (or predominantly) available in the United Kingdom (sometimes also the Netherlands)''

As I understand it, one of the reasons why this one may have taken root is because when the franchise began Hasbro in the UK and continental Europe were not yet integrated and so the releases were separate - I think the UK may have even begun the toys in late 1984 (which would explain why the comic began in September that year rather than waiting for the toys advertised to arrive the next). Most of the sightings of toys being available in one market but not the other, though in my experience tend to be cases of the UK not getting toys seemingly available on the continent - e.g. issue #60 of the UK comic reports Blaster being available in Germany with German tech specs - rather than the other way round. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 08:04, 26 September 2009 (EDT)

Agreed. I saw Trypticon and Bruticus box-set on sale in Greece, and Deluxe Insecticons and Shockwave in France circa 1986. None of these were ever available in the UK. [[User:J'mie|J'mie]] 08:18, 26 September 2009 (EDT)
:But this section is not referring to European releases of regular US toys. It's referring to Euro-exclusive toys like the "Classic" reissues, Turbomasters etc.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 02:52, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

==Here's an old one I just remembered==
Since the Diaclone & Microchange molds have copyright dates from the 70s on them, the original toys are from the 70s as well. That one's been pretty well debunked by actual release date info, but we should probably have something on the wiki explaining the reason that toys from '82 were marked '78 or whenever. It's something to do with how Japanese patent or copyright law or whatever worked at the time, IIRC - since Microchange STARTED in the late 70s, all the toys, no matter whne they dropped, had the copyright date of the initial product. At least, I think that's how it worked. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 10:51, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
:Correct. Japanese copyright stamping at the time went by year of the brand's inception, not the year the toy per se was created. (I'm not sure if that's still the case in Japan. For any toys produced for non-Asian markets, it seems they're adhering to the date of manufacture rather than brand inception. At least, I can't recall the last time I saw a new TakaraTomy or Bandai toy with an old copyright date on it.)--[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] 11:01, 30 September 2009 (EDT)
::Right. and shortly after posting this, I see it's already on there. It seems like we might need a more logical organizing process for this thing - maybe a "pre-Transformers" section before G1 to cover stuff like this exactly. Kind of track it through the history of the series, rumors about pre-TF toylines first, then rumors about TF development (John Romita drawing the character models, f'rinstance) and then kind of an era-by-era as appropriate. [[User:Hooper X|Hooper_X]] 11:40, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

== Blue Bluestreak ==

My brain is too fried from using Linux to make the appropriate edit right now and have it come out not terrible, but I think it's weird that the article acts like we have absolutely no idea why the rumor of a blue '''''Blue'''''streak would be more widespread than the rumor of a dark gray Astrotrain. (And this is the part where someone assumes I don't know what his name means.) --[[User:Andrusi]]

Because it DID exist as a Diaclone, and some rumors existed of a VERY FEW making it out in TF boxes, including an ex-Hasbro employee. See: http://tfsource.com/blog/diaclone-car-robots-part-1/ --[[User:Chrusher]]

== Can we get this page locked down? ==

Pages of this nature should never be open to anonymous edits, because somebody, somewhere, will take offense to us "lecturing them" on why they're wrong. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 20:51, 4 July 2010 (EDT)
:That probably won't stop them from making an account just to do the exact same thing anyway. --[[User:LokitheGrammarNazi|LokitheGrammarNazi]] 16:49, 18 September 2010 (EDT)

== Japanese dub of Animated ==

Japanese Animated is a separate continuity from the Movieverse, right? But there was some early coverage that claimed otherwise, which still has people fooled? Is that correct?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 16:41, 30 October 2010 (EDT)

== "Transformers was nearly rated R by the MPAA." ==

It sounds like this is true, so does it belong here as a misconception or urban legend? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 02:00, 8 November 2010 (EST)
:Because it's Shia's OTHER film, Disturbia, that was almost rated R. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:08, 8 November 2010 (EST)

== Neo/Car Robots Connection- ==

While I am not disputing that it is not a direct sequel, it might be worth noting that this one does have *some* vague credence, as it does include time-travelling Predacons/Destron(gers) as well as the semi-cameo by Heinlad in the pilot. I would imagine that these elements were included, in part at least, to help the transition from the "Beast Era" fiction to generation-spanning mash-up land. Which, still, a sequel does not make, I grant you. But it might be worth mentioning that there are elements beyond "animation style" that point towards this misconception, the Heinlad 'cameo', especially--[[User:Destrongerlupus|Destrongerlupus]] 15:44, 12 November 2010 (EST)

== War for Cybertron is a prequel to the G1 cartoon/War for Cybertron is part of G1 ==

This section comes across as very pedantic, almost like "Hasbro declared it part of Prime, therefore it is. All the contradictions with the Prime cartoon and the similarities with G1 mean nothing, as they are overruled by Hasbro's official verdict". Yes, I know Hasbro has the last word, but seriously...--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 09:32, 28 November 2010 (EST)
:But that is the case. WFC has superficial similarities to G1 so casual fans automatically ASSume that it is part of that continuity. Hell, many of them don't realize that there are multiple G1 continuities. As the Prime franchise integrates and synthesizes elements from all previous continuity families, there are bound to be similarities to G1. However, the franchise is so new that it is hard to get a feel on what it is. Hasbro's statements as to what belongs where is all that we really have to go on as of yet. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 09:38, 28 November 2010 (EST)

::I think the section as it is currenty described is pointless. It is G1 cartoon-centric and the reasons why WFC is not G1 also apply to nearly all the G1 comics! [[Special:Contributions/82.15.221.203|82.15.221.203]] 11:56, 29 November 2010 (EST)
:::Except people don't seem to think that WFC is in Marvel or IDW continuity. When people think it's G1, they think it's cartoon G1. The only other G1 universe I ever see people try to fit it into is War Within, and the section discusses that as well. The reason for it being cartoon-centric is because most people are under the belief that it is part of the cartoon. WFC cannot fit into any G1 universe and it's confirmed to not be a new one. The comics, while presenting different views, are G1. WFC may seem like another interpretation, but that's been debunked. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 12:19, 29 November 2010 (EST)
:As I understand it, the creators were creating it as part of G1, as far as they were concerned. As far as I am concerned, creators of a licensed Transformers product made a G1 story, so it is a G1 story. The wiki's position on the matter really does boil down to "Hasbro declared it part of the modern continuity, therefore it is." - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:52, 29 November 2010 (EST)
::It was ''specifically a sequel to the original cartoon'', as far as the video game folks were concerned, despite the Jetfire and the Aerialbots and the Stunticons and the totally new origin for Optimus prime. The video game folks can be wrong. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 12:59, 29 November 2010 (EST)
:::So it had a sloppy/loose, video-game-level of attention to continuity. The cartoon itself has conflicting origins. Anyway, the section should probably say something about the video game folks and their press statements, since the "War for Cybertron is G1" myth didn't come out of nowhere. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 13:08, 29 November 2010 (EST)
Here's a possible rephrasing: "High Moon Studios, the creators of the WFC game, intended for it to be a prequel to the G1 Sunbow cartoon, and the two share some broad similarities (though they are irreconcilable in detail). However, Hasbro has declared that WFC is a micro-continuity in the Prime franchise, not G1, and ''ex cathedra'' pronouncements from Hasbro trump authorial intent." [[User:JW|JW]] 14:23, 29 November 2010 (EST)
:I think it's more likely that they advertised it as being part of the cartoon, because that's the most well-known Transformers fiction and would appeal to 80s kids. I don't know how it can be developed as a prequel considering the blatant inconsistencies. --[[User:NCZ|NCZ]] 14:36, 29 November 2010 (EST)
::War Within is a "G1 prequel" even though it clashes with the cartoon. The difference is that there's actual "G1" fiction that is in continuity with War Within (namely, Dreamwave G1). Besides, War for Cybertron clashes with the Prime cartoon just as much as it clashes with the G1 cartoon, so the only thing we have is Hasbro's official word overruling it. Aaaaaaaand then we have the recent case of Hasbro stating that various characters aren't in the movieverse despite official fiction placing them there. So yeah.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 07:17, 2 December 2010 (EST)
:::Thinking about it again, I think the main problem I have is that pretty much everything else on this page is blatantly false and directly disproven by factual evidence. In the case of WFC, all we have is Hasbro in their ever-vague continuity mish-mash official-speak declaring it part of the Prime continuity. Since this is the same Hasbro that claims Hunt for the Decepticon toys who appeared in movieverse fiction or who are tied to movieverse characters via their bios aren't part of the movieverse, I'd say we require more substantial evidence for this to actually belong on this page as a cut-and-dry "misconception". The only other comparable case I can think of is "Car Robots is a Beast Wars Neo sequel", where we list all the arguments disproving it and then only mention the official Takara retcon-via-official-timeline in a postscript sentence.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 10:45, 2 December 2010 (EST)
::::Yea, I don't see how anyone can say "WFC is G1" is blatantly false after watching [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctkjNF9JSPE this commercial]. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 11:36, 3 December 2010 (EST)
:::::I don't see how that commercial proves which continuity the game fits in. Yes, it is obviously HOMAGING G1, but that doesn't make it G1. The Prime franchise draws inspiration from everything that came before. If anything, Starscream's comment "Again?" would point to it NOT being G1. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 11:05, 4 December 2010 (EST)
::::::You are assuming WFC is part of Prime's continuity and then saying WFC homages G1 because Prime's continuity draws from everything that came before. The question is whether WFC is part of Prime. I think the commercial is promoting WFC as G1. Hasbro says WFC is part of the "modern continuity". I used to think that meant something close to "in continuity with the Prime cartoon", but after the latest Q&A, I'm not exactly sure what "modern continuity" and "[[Hasbro Q&A/November 2010: Answers|modern world continuity]]" are supposed to mean. Hasbro just doesn't think in the same terms regarding categories.
::::::I think if the wiki just looked at WFC itself and how it was promoted, it could easily be put in the G1 continuity family, at least as much as IDW. IDW has different origins for Galvatron, Cyclonus, Goldbug, Headmasters. It homages Pretenders and female Transformers and easter-eggs Action Masters ("[[Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 1|altmodes are for wimps]]") without any actual (confirmed?) Action Masters. The Micromasters aren't even Cybertronian Transformers. Then there's [http://forum.idwpublishing.com/viewtopic.php?p=143991#143991 this]:
::::::{{quote|I don't consider IDW's take as "G1". the stories are not a continuation of the ones from the 80's cartoon or the Marvel stuff. they didn't crash on earth 4 millions years ago and get lodged in a volcano, it doesn't even fit into Beast wars. sure it's got the same names and elements from G1, but that can also be said with every other series that came and went since G1. Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Animated, the Movie.. All have elements of G1 in them, all have an Optimus who's a red truck and there's a Yellow car that younger people can relate to. references to Matrixes, Unicrons..etc, but they're not G1.|DonFig}} Don's reasoning for IDW not being G1 is the exact same sort of stuff in this article about WFC not being G1, yet IDW is still classified as G1. I'm not saying the wiki should reclassify IDW. I'm just saying that saying "WFC is part of G1" isn't some obvious myth. Maybe the wiki should just classify War for Cybertron as its own thing with notes saying the developers considered it in the spirit of Generation 1 and Hasbro kinda sorta lumped it in with modern stuff. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 12:03, 4 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::Actually that's not what I was saying, I'll try to clarify. That commercial has a design sense that is clearly influenced by G1. Starscream's "again?" comment shows that it is not actually G1, and is thus an homage. Other elements of the game are homages of other parts of TF history (Demolishor and Slipstream for Armada and Animated for example). This mix of homages to various eras is similar to that seen in the Prime cartoon. Hasbro's comments that WFC is part of Prime's continuity family clarifies all of the above. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:19, 4 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::Except that Hasbro ''also'' says that certain characters ''aren't'' part of the movieverse but belong to the "modern-world continuity" even though they appeared in official movieverse fiction. So if Hasbro is giving out contradictory information, how can we consider something that hinges entirely on Hasbro's official world "definite"?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:33, 4 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::I think you are reading too much into Starscream's "Again?". I didn't think that when I heard it. It is just Starscream upset because Shockwave is going to request "The Touch" again or something. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 14:17, 4 December 2010 (EST)

Pretty much the entire purpose of Exodus is to lay the foundation for this new "modern continuity" by taking War for Cybertron's story and differentiating it from G1. This is a ''conscious effort'', folks. It's not like we're just taking one statement and running with it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 16:21, 4 December 2010 (EST)
:So if Exodus took the War for Cybertron story and de-G1-ified it, where does that leave War for Cybertron itself? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:38, 4 December 2010 (EST)
::As the backstory to Prime. WFC may not have originally been ''intended'' as that, but Exodus is the link that establishes it as the first bit of Hasbro's ''new'' continuity rather than a continuation of a prior continuity.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 21:51, 4 December 2010 (EST)
:::There's also their identical Cybertron designs: [[Cybertron_(planet)#Prime]] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:23, 7 December 2010 (EST)
The current rewrite pleases me. [[User:JW|JW]] 10:11, 6 December 2010 (EST)
:''Some have taken this misconception further and believed War for Cybertron is an actual prequel for the original cartoon.'' ... for example, the game developers themselves! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:20, 6 December 2010 (EST)
::Much better now. The only thing missing as far as I'm concerned is a note on Hasbro's own murky attitude towards "continuity" (PCCs and HftD characters allegedly not being part of the movieverse) and the whole wibbly-wobbly nature of the whole shebang.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 06:51, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::: That'd be a whole 'nother topic heading, and I'm not sure "The notion of separate and well-defined continuities is far more developed in fandom and on this wiki than within the walls of Hasbro, and thus we are obsessively mapping boundaries that don't really exist," is a topic we'd have much fun visiting. [[User:JW|JW]] 07:08, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::: [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-prime-discussion/346862-seems-hasbro-changed-their-mind.html MY BRAIN HURTS]--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 14:00, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Well of course they're not in continuity. BUT that doesn't mean they don't belong to the same continuity family. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:08, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Hasbro ''UK''. Who has all of ''no'' say in anything along those lines. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:11, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::Why would Hasbro UK have any less say about continuity than, say, Takara, whose pronouncements we document?--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:28, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::PS: I'm not saying that we should take it too seriously, there's the whole 'private correspondence' thing, I'm just finding the idea that Hasbro UK has no say in the matter odd.--[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 15:30, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::The massive ineptitude and halfassery that they carry themselves with in everything they do, say or have any part of. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 15:32, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::Takara creates things. Hasbro US creates things. They are both proactive partners in creating Transformers IP. Hasbro UK is their dumb unemployed cousin who can't keep his thumb out of his own ass. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 15:34, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::[http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75073&st=0 Hasbro US agrees.] --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 10:12, 8 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::Can we at least agree that this whole thing is vastly confusing, Hasbro's official stance has flaws and there's been contradictory information given out by the dumb unemployed UK brother?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:03, 8 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::Also: [http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-prime-discussion/346862-seems-hasbro-changed-their-mind-8.html#post5453604] From Pete Sinclair: {{quote|What I have been told is one continuity, the modern continuity, containing these 3 stories. Hasbro does not deal with Universal streams or continuity families. They only deal with, and are concerned with, the modern continuity...}}--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 14:24, 8 December 2010 (EST)
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::::::HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. --[[User:-Blackout-|-Blackout-]] 14:17, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Yes, because e-mail correspondences with marketing guys (from Hasbro UK, no less) are reliable arbiters of Transformers information. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 14:58, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::More insanity: [[Cliffjumper (Prime)]] has a link in his toy entry to [[Cliffjumper (G1)]], implying that Takara's United version of Generations Cliffjumper represents an incarnation of G1 Cliffjumper. Is there any evidence supporting this, or are we automatically assuming that all Takara toys represent incarnations of G1 characters unless explicitly stated otherwise? To make matters more complicated, G1 Cliffjumper's page contains no entry for United Cliffjumper.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 08:25, 8 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::[http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/TF/products/united/un01.html The website links between "Earth Mode" and "Cybertron Mode" toys.] Takara doing their own thing is not a new occurrence. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:34, 8 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::For what it's worth, [http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=74770 Figure Oh!] explicitly advertises Cliffjumper as appearing in the DS version of WFC.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 10:29, 8 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::Not worth a lot. They're simply pointing out the real-world genesis of the toy. Frankly, IF we see any kind of fiction-use of said models, it'll likely be in some manga set in some continuity that is just as irreconcilable (or blatantly new) as Henkei was... if it's not set in Henkei's timeline anyway. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 14:15, 8 December 2010 (EST)

== Transformers Prime Toyline existence==

Should the persistent belief that Transformers: Prime will not have a toyline be added here, or is it only TFW that gets like five threads devoted to that topic on a daily basis? -[[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 11:05, 30 November 2010 (EST)
:Until there is an announced toyline, instead of the "We're not making toys" one we got, it's not a misconception or an urban legend. It's fact based on the available information [[User:Eire]] 16:18 30 Nov 2010.
:: THEY NEVER SAID THEY WEREN'T MAKING TOYS. NEVER EVER. Jesus Christ, in the exact same panel in which people THOUGHT Hasbro said they weren't making toys, Eric Siebenaler even said that he couldn't wait for people to see Bulkhead Prime's action figure! ALL THEY SAID WAS THAT THEY WERE '''NOT TALKING ABOUT TOYS RIGHT THIS MOMENT''', not that there would NEVER BE TOYS. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:22, 30 November 2010 (EST)
:::That's the thing, some people still believe that Hasbro isn't going to make any toys for the Prime franchise. I'd support the addition of a section clarifying this for those people. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 12:14, 30 November 2010 (EST)
::::Seems like the sort of thing that's going to have a relatively short lifespan, as we're probably going to see the Prime toys at Toyfair.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:31, 30 November 2010 (EST)
:::::At that point, the "Hasbro said they weren't making any Prime toys and they're liars!" begins. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:22, 30 November 2010 (EST)
::::::What are you getting so worked up about? If they said there are no toys in the works at the moment, it one doesn't contradict my statement of no sign of toys to come, because there isn't because they haven't revealed any, and two if it does contradict me, so what? It's exactly...nothing. Certainly nothing to get remotely excited about. Or is this mainstream forum backlash. I should point out, I avoid the big forums, so if this has been kicked up fifty billion times over there, I wouldn't know about it. [[User:Eire]] 18:31 30 Nov 2010.
:::::::I'm pretty sure someone from Hasbro (Aaron Archer?) said that there would be Prime figures, but they were holding off until after the current blitz of 2010/Generations/PCC and (possibly) the upcoming DOTM line. Can anyone back me up on this with a reference? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 13:44, 30 November 2010 (EST)
:::::::They never said "there are no toys in the works at the moment," they said they weren't talking about it.--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 14:31, 30 November 2010 (EST)
::::::::This. This this this this this. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 14:59, 30 November 2010 (EST)
Now that you say it, I do think you're right, Walky. I'm probably always going to want to stab ''someone'' in the eyeball with a nail file over this. Which, I guess, is our criteria for this article, come to think of it.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 04:23, 1 December 2010 (EST)

==Nimoy Unicron lines?==
I know it's been debunked over the years, but we probably ought to put the "Leonard Nimoy dubbed some of Orson Welles' lines because they were unusable" rumor to bed on this page somewhere. -hx at work

==Targets for bloat removal==
Okay, I'm putting together a list of items of dubious existence on this page. There's a lot of stuff that just seems... small. Certainly trivia-worthy on relevant pages, but not big enough to really warrant being here. Let's hear some arguments for keeping...
* Powermaster Optimus Prime was the first, original Optimus Prime toy.
* A "giant"-sized Optimus Prime toy was available during Generation 1.
* A winged variant of Sludge was available during Generation 1.
* The reissue Soundwave toys released by Takara are reverse-engineered from Soundblaster because the original molds are lost.
* Commemorative Series Side Swipe was found at Toys"R"Us stores in the USA.
* Some toys were exclusively (or predominantly) available in the United Kingdom (sometimes also the Netherlands).
:There's certainly some confusion about the way releases were handled on this side of the Atlantic, not least because it took time for the various markets and even companies to be aligned, and this has created confusion in later years when everything's been gathered under a single listing called "Europe". I'm not sure the current paragraphs really convey this well - indeed the myths in the 1980s and early 1990s (mainly through the UK letterspage) tended to be based around the continent getting toys the UK didn't rather than the other way round and some of this got reproduced in the internet era. But would "All countries in Europe received a single set of releases in the 1980s" be obscure in itself and/or oversummarising the mess? [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] 15:48, 9 May 2013 (EDT)
* Transformers were meant as a "genderless" race. Arcee and the other female Transformers were added to the brand because feminists complained about the Transformers all being male. (''When the fuck was this ever proposed?'')
:I actually heard this from someone else a few years ago, so it's been making the rounds. Given that the G1 cartoon seemingly went out of its way to avoid adding female characters at first (no recurring female characters for 1984, and Carly not appearing until several episodes into the 1985 season) while other franchises were gender-integrated from the get-go (such as with G. I. Joe or He-Man), I can see where this misconception might have first started. [[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] 18:28, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
* The Transformers: The Movie/Scatman Crothers coined the term "ginormous", which has since been added to several dictionaries.
* An Earthforce story was written to promote the non-combining Constructicon toys.
:--[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 03:35, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
:Also, several of the entries not on this list can really use some trim. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 04:53, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
::"A "giant"-sized Optimus Prime toy was available during Generation 1." seems particularly unneeded since it directly follows the bit about 20th Anniversary Optimus, which is pretty much the same misconception. The only part that is really new is the the giant bootleg thing, and that could just be added to the 20th Anniversary section if needed. [[User:Soundwarp SG-1|Soundwarp SG-1]] 12:37, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
::For me this has been one of the most interesting pages over the years, so I'm sad to see anything go, but yeah, some like the Alternators Windcharger thing would make more sense just on individual character pages. On "Winged Sludge": was that really more of a source of confusion than any other Four Star knock-off? Should that myth possibly be expanded to something like, "Four Star's toys using Transformer molds were legit Diaclone variants sold at the same time as their TF counterparts," since some listings of their toys throw up "Diaclone" as a keyword? [[User:Bumblevivisector|Bumblevivisector]] 20:01, 7 May 2013 (EDT)
::I think this page should focus on the large scale, line wide myths. Things particular to one character (or one actor, in the case of Scatman Crothers) should be moved to the specific page. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 17:55, 9 May 2013 (EDT)

==The G1 series being dubbed anime==
I remembered something when I read this entry in the list. Back when Rhino was releasing the 1986 movie and the first few batches of episodes on VHS, the local chain of the Suncoast video retailer had everything "Transformers" stocked in their anime section. Back then I honestly took it to mean that Transformers was anime, and another collector I spoke with at the time thought the same.

For those who had Suncoast chains in their area during the Rhino years, did your chain similarly stock G1 in the "anime" section? If so, then Suncoast might have inadvertently contributed to the propagation of this myth. [[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] ([[User talk:Ironhold|talk]]) 13:24, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure being a cartoon with a lot of behind-the-scenes associations with Japan had much more to do with the "the propagation of this myth" than your local overpriced retailer. [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] ([[User talk:Mimi|talk]]) 14:58, 5 May 2014 (EDT)

== "Megatron is named from Megas" ==

Does this count as a misconception? This was written on Wikipedia about fans missauming it but Megatron is actually a portemeau of megaton and tron.

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Pat: /* Generations */

[[File:Personal.image.donotuse.jpg|center|200px|thumb]]

Hi, I'm Pat.

{{bigquote|With creativity you can do anything|Me (secret name)}}
==Prank of the day==
===Generations===
*'''Wheeljack''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' None
[[File:Red Alert Wheeljack toy swap.jpg|200px|thumb|right|The painter must be a profesional.]]
:A really badly non-factory [[Repaint|repainted]] (yes) [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], itself a retool of Sideswipe/Sunstreaker. It lacks Red Alert's sirens in box and is super rare, only one is known to exist and it's not a convention exclusive, store exclusive, nor a contest exclusive, but it is a [[Toy swapping|swapped]] toy, how smart. He has the same box as Wheeljack, but badly damaged. He has no stock image (seriously).

:The original sculpt was also retooled into ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Punch (G1)#Timelines 2|Punch]], [[Breakdown (G1)#Timelines|''Generation 2'' Breakdown]], and [[Breakdown (G1)#G1TimelinesBreakdown|Generation 1 Breakdown]], as well as ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Henkei! Henkei!|Alert]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Generations|Red Alert]].

====IMPORTANT MESSAGE====
:If you see this super rare toy in person somewhere, please contact us and bring a photo of proof and evidence, it's very unlikely Hasbro would ever make this figure come true.

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[[File:Personal.image.donotuse.jpg|center|200px|thumb]]

Hi, I'm Pat.

{{bigquote|With creativity you can do anything|Me (secret name)}}
==Prank of the day==
===Generations===
*'''Wheeljack''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' None
[[File:Red Alert Wheeljack toy swap.jpg|200px|thumb|right|What is this!?]]
:A really badly [[Repaint|repainted]] (yes) [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], itself a retool of Sideswipe/Sunstreaker. It lacks Red Alert's sirens and is super rare, only one is known to exist and it's not a convention exclusive, store exclusive, nor a contest exclusive, but it is a [[Toy swapping|swapped]] toy, how smart. He has the same box as Wheeljack, but badly damaged.

:The original sculpt was also retooled into ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Punch (G1)#Timelines 2|Punch]], [[Breakdown (G1)#Timelines|''Generation 2'' Breakdown]], and [[Breakdown (G1)#G1TimelinesBreakdown|Generation 1 Breakdown]], as well as ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Henkei! Henkei!|Alert]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Generations|Red Alert]].

User:Pat

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Pat:

[[File:Personal.image.donotuse.jpg|center|200px|thumb|Me like being triple-changer!]]

Hi, I'm Pat.

{{bigquote|With creativity you can do anything|Me (secret name)}}
==Prank of the day==
===Generations===
*'''Wheeljack''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' None
[[File:Red Alert Wheeljack toy swap.jpg|200px|thumb|right|What is this!?]]
:A really badly [[Repaint|repainted]] (yes) [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], itself a retool of Sideswipe/Sunstreaker. It lacks Red Alert's sirens and is super rare, only one is known to exist and it's not a convention exclusive, store exclusive, nor a contest exclusive, but it is a [[Toy swapping|swapped]] toy, how smart. He has the same box as Wheeljack, but badly damaged.

:The original sculpt was also retooled into ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Punch (G1)#Timelines 2|Punch]], [[Breakdown (G1)#Timelines|''Generation 2'' Breakdown]], and [[Breakdown (G1)#G1TimelinesBreakdown|Generation 1 Breakdown]], as well as ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Henkei! Henkei!|Alert]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Generations|Red Alert]].

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Pat: /* Generations */

[[File:Personal.image.donotuse.jpg|center|200px|thumb|Me like being triple-changer!]]

Hi, I'm Pat.

{{bigquote|With creativity you can do anything|Me (secret name)}}
==Prank of the day==
===Generations===
*'''Wheeljack''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' None
[[File:Red Alert Wheeljack toy swap.jpg|200px|thumb|right|What is this!?]]
:A really badly [[Repaint|repainted]] (yes) [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], itself a retool of Sideswipe/Sunstreaker. It lacks Red Alert's sirens and is super rare, only one is known to exist and it's not a convention exclusive, store exclusive, nor a contest exclusive, but it is a [[Toy swapping|swapped]] toy, how smart. He has the same box as Wheeljack, but badly damaged

:The original sculpt was also retooled into ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Punch (G1)#Timelines 2|Punch]], [[Breakdown (G1)#Timelines|''Generation 2'' Breakdown]], and [[Breakdown (G1)#G1TimelinesBreakdown|Generation 1 Breakdown]], as well as ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Henkei! Henkei!|Alert]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Generations|Red Alert]].

User:Pat

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Pat: /* Generations */

[[File:Personal.image.donotuse.jpg|center|200px|thumb|Me like being triple-changer!]]

Hi, I'm Pat.

{{bigquote|With creativity you can do anything|Me (secret name)}}
==Prank of the day==
===Generations===
*'''Wheeljack''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' None
[[File:Red Alert Wheeljack toy swap.jpg|200px|thumb|right|What is this!?]]
:A really badly [[Repaint|repainted]] (yes) [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], itself a retool of Sideswipe/Sunstreaker. It lacks Red Alert's sirens and is super rare, only one is known to exist and it's not a convention exclusive, store exclusive, nor a contest exclusive, but it is a [[Toy swaping|swapped]] toy, how smart. He has the same box as Wheeljack, but badly damaged

:The original sculpt was also retooled into ''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]'' [[Punch (G1)#Timelines 2|Punch]], [[Breakdown (G1)#Timelines|''Generation 2'' Breakdown]], and [[Breakdown (G1)#G1TimelinesBreakdown|Generation 1 Breakdown]], as well as ''[[Henkei! Henkei! Transformers (toyline)|Henkei! Henkei!]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Henkei! Henkei!|Alert]] and ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' [[Red Alert (G1)#Generations|Red Alert]].

User:Pat

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Pat:

[[File:Personal.image.donotuse.jpg|center|200px|thumb|Me like being triple-changer!]]

Hi, I'm Pat.

{{bigquote|With creativity you can do anything|Me (secret name)}}
==Prank of the day==
===Generations===
*'''Wheeljack''' (Deluxe, 2011)
**''Accessories:'' None
[[File:Red Alert Wheeljack toy swap.jpg|200px|thumb|right|What is this!?]]
:A really badly [[Repaint|repainted]] (yes) [[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]], itself a retool of Sideswipe/Sunstreaker. It lacks Red Alert's sirens and is super rare, only one is known to exist and it's not a convention exclusive, store exclusive, nor a contest exclusive. But it is a swapped toy, how smart.

:He has the same box as Wheeljack.

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Pat:

[[File:Personal.image.donotuse.jpg|center|200px|thumb|Me like being triple-changer!]]

Hi, I'm Pat.

{{bigquote|With creativity you can do anything|Me (secret name)}}
==Extra stuff about me==
===What I like===
::Autobots
::Cool alt. modes
::Combiners
::Triple changers
::Bayformers
::Decepticons that become Autobots
::Shattered Glass Transformers
::Dinobots
::Transformers Animated
::Transformers Movie soundtracks
::G1

===What I hate===
::Killing Optimus Prime
::The Transformers: The Movie (1986)
::Action Masters
::Unicron
::Pretenders ([[Alice|escpacially this scary Terminator rip-off]])
::Beast Wars
::Decepticons
::Decepticons that turn into cool cars.
::Megatron
::Autobots that become Decepticons ([[Wheeljack (Armada)|escpacially this villian]])
::Store-execlusives
::Hot Rod being the new leader instead of Magnus
::Every new character in Transformers: The Movie
::Transformers hard to transform
::Last wave of a toyline always become sold in limited numbers/outright cancelled/only in Japan, making them rare and expensive
::Shelfwarmers
::Decepticons are always larger
::Megatron never dies
::Wasp betraying the Autobots
::Goldbug

Thats about it, I hate more stuff about Transformers than likes but that's all my opinion.

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==Rimmer theme captions==
Does anyone have any idea what a good quote for this page would be, to keep the Rimmer theme?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 09:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:Well, it's not Rimmerific, but I was thinking it would be good to use some play on the "no clone army...definitely no clone army...absolutely no clone army in this show" line from BotCon. After all, what better sums up a clone of Starscream that always lies? (and yes, I know it was sarcasm in the first place, thenkyew - that doesn't make it thematically inappropriate) [[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 04:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::That would be awesome. Could you upload a picture for that?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 01:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

All the Starscream clones' main pictures (plus a relevant picture on the Starscream (Animated) page) are Rimmer-captioned. Therefore, this one should be too. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ''[[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk page]]'' 16:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

==Colour Scheme Thoughts==
Could it be possible that this Screamer is a nod to the Shattered Glass Starscream? Granted, the colours are slightly different; but when watching the episode that was the first thing that popped to this user's mind. [[User:Lunarius|Lunarius]] 07:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
:Lack of real visual similarity say no. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 07:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
::Hrm, alright. Thanks :D [[User:Lunarius|Lunarius]] 07:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== No Clone Army/Judas-Jonathan ==
Amusing as it has been to see these captions ping-pong for the last week or so, I grow weary of it. I take it there's ''some'' merit to either caption, so I'm polling for consensus; the loser gets to be the caption of the inevitable toy recolor or subsequent fiction re-appearance.I vote for "No Clone Army." -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:Sounds like a good compromise. I also vote "no clone army" as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SFH|contribs]]).
:I have no idea what that Judas-Jonathan one is about. All I know is it sucks, and the "No clone army" thing is incredibly funny and totally works with the overall tone of Liar Starscream's page. So yeah. To hell with the Judas thing. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I think it's a Red Dwarf reference, but that's just been the impression I picked up, it could be wrong. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:Never heard of it, and whatever it is, it's not as clever or appropriate as "no clone army." --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 02:07, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::Google, people, sheesh! It's a Red Dwarf quote, apparently part of a long rant describing how slimey a particular character is. While I appreciate the obliquity of the quote's appropriateness, I think the "no clone army" one wins for sheer comprehensibility. That said, I think it'd be much more fitting on the main image for [[Starscream clone (Animated)|Starscream clone]]. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Repowers speaks the truth. The 'Judas-Jonathan' quote comes from a speech by Lister on Rimmer's character. I think the Rimmer captions suit the Starscream clones, because RImmer himself exhibited those same characteristics - cowardice, megalomania, lying and bootlicking. And the quote for the Female Starscream comes from a Red Dwarf ep which featured a female Rimmer. I think the Rimmer captions should stay. The 'no clone army' works much better for the [[Starscream clone (Animated)|Starscream clone]] article.
:::Besides, just because you don't get a caption doesn't mean you have to remove it. I don't get the 'goth talk' bit from Blackarachnia's article, but am I complaining? Bring back the Rimmer captions! It's the highlight of my week to see them there. [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 02:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I think the speaking-truth-by-blatantly-lying "No clone army" (which is apparently a quote from the Botcon 2008 panels) certainly fits the liar better- and while I can see why it'd make sense on the Starscream Clone article- I think it's just about perfect here. I prefer that quote (I might prefer the RD one if I'd seen RD... but I haven't...) and I think its connection to TF gives it an edge. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Let it be known that I support discarding "Rimmer", whatever the hell it is, and keeping the "clone-army" quote. [[User:Galvanisation|Galvanisation]] 10:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::Shhh... nerds are supposed to be ''ashamed'' of not having seen Red Dwarf or Blakes 7. It's like not having seen Babylon 5! ''Do not advertise your nerdy deficiencies''! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You forgot failing to read/listen to that utterly remarkable book, the ''Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy'' :) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ''[[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk page]]'' 21:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Thank you for that explanation; I was originally against the Rimmer ref, but that was before I knew that it was a running gag throughout the clone articles. I think it's kind of amazing that the single rant (plus a female-Rimmer line) can apply so aptly, and it fits with our spirit of [[Razorclaw (disambiguation)|multi-article jokes]], so I vote for that.... as long as ''all'' the main-pic captions are Rimmer. Lose one, and the whole gag falls apart, as far as I'm concerned. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::As might be expected since I'm one of the ones who reverted, I'm wih Bobpiecheese. Keep the Rimmer theme going - the "Clone Army" one should go on the main Clones page with the picture of the hundreds of clones. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] 16:35, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:While I generally approve of having Rimmer captions, for this particular character I think "No clone army" is the ideal quote. It does screw up the theme, but them's the breaks. -- [[User:Greenygal|Greenygal]] 13:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:Fairly obviously, keep the Rimmer theme going. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ''[[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk page]]'' 21:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I LIKE Red Dwarf, but I vote against it in the Liar's case. The "no clone army" is way, way, way, way, WAY more fitting. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:How about a compromise: we keep the 'no clone army' for the main image, but the next image that's added to the article should have a Rimmer-related caption. How about that?
::I believe that's exactly what we're weighing our votes for. Liar is sure to either reappear or get a toy eventually. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, is the second caption in the article also a Rimmer quote? --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 15:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:No, it's a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3HaRFBSq9k Monty Python quote] (actually, the wording there is slightly different - but the Pythons have rerecorded most of their popular sketches at least once, so the wording in the quote's probably been used at some point). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ''[[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk page]]'' 17:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks for the clarification. I thought it seemed like it came out of some British comedy. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 17:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== "Fiction Area" ==
Maybe you should change the "fiction" header to read "fact" instead. After all, we all know what the opposite of fiction is! [[Special:Contributions/67.160.126.166|67.160.126.166]] 04:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:And I'm certainly not suggesting we change the Trivia section to Vital Information as well. [[User:Felancer Prime|Felancer Prime]] 11:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I feel like there's a point at which the joke annihilates the usefulness of the article. This one's gimmick happens to straightforward, so it's not very hard to parse... but it's balancing right on the edge of being in need of the seldom used de-snarking template. I don't think you ''can'' burden it with any more snark without rendering it incoherent. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:I happen to agree with this Derik fellow. (is Derik a real word?) We need to keep the titles of sections as they normally would be, and just have the text written in lie-format. And to keep it all understandable, let's stop putting our comments here in lie-form. I realize I did this before, but it might get kinda tricky to understand when we're lying and when we're not. [[User:Mr. Magorium|Not Steve]][[User talk:Mr. Magorium|complain here]][[Special:Contributions/Mr. Magorium|The Big Book]] 19:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== "Animated Cartoon" ==
Could we change 'Animated cartoon' to 'not-Animated movie'?
: In theory, yes, we could, but we won't be doing that. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::Why do ''these'' pages keep getting hammered by edits? Everything there was to be said about the clones was said in the first day or so. Is the finale still premiering some places? And why ''this one'' in particular singled out for attention? :~( -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Because it's the most boring character and gimmick on the entire wiki.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Because dogpiling a joke into a fine powder is easier than actually CONTRIBUTING. This is one of the reasons I like the humor here. It's a nice measuring stick to see who's going to be worth a fuck to us... plus helps prove why there won't be much competition once we move. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:47, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I didn't say it was a good idea to do it - just why people are doing it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 05:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Ramjet ==

The new interview with Wyatt basically says the Liar is known as Ramjet, but I'm not sure if what the status of those image captions were - I mean, were those written by the interviewer, does Wyatt approve of them, whatever? In any case, would that be acceptable basis to move the page to Ramjet (Animated) (along with everything else so far, like the conehead, etc.), or do we still have to wait until Wyatt or Hasbro explicitly say the Liar is Ramjet?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:59, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
: Those captions seem to have been written by the interviewer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:04, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
::So, his name [i]is[/i] Ramjet?
:::The interviewer is the guy in no way affiliated with Hasbro or the Cartoon Network in any way. Information he provides personally is in no way official. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 23:00, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
With the addition of his conehead it might be safe to give him a Ramjet <nowiki>{{noname-unconfirmed}}</nowiki>. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:21, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
:That doesn't work when there ''is'' an official name, and that is "Liar Starscream". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:40, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
::According to Jim Sorenson, Ramjet is going to be the Liar's official name in the Almanac.

<blockquote>Of course, it's not like it was our decision. It all started when Bill and I were brainstorming with Derrick Wyatt about the almanac. I mentioned that we needed a name for her, since everyone else had names (I know that there hasn't been an official toy with the name Ramjet on it, but that'll be in the book too).</blockquote>

Can we move the page now? It's kind of been beaten over our heads for quite a while now, and we were completely willing to make pages for Carrera and Searchlight before getting official confirmation.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 17:53, 1 June 2009 (EDT)
::Carrera and Searchlight had their names on their character model sheets. Ramjet's said "Liar Starscream." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:13, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Their ''leaked'' model sheets, admittedly, but that was more a case of the sheets confirming the nicknames we'd already decided to give them. I think some of the article still have the nickname template on them. As the Almanac is not going to include season 3 stuff, I'm wondering if this isn't one of those times where we throw our hands up and say "okay, it was leaked, but we're now at the point where it doesn't matter." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:27, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Leaked model sheets? No. Derrick Wyatt, like, told us himself what it said on the model sheets. And by "us" I mean "Monzo." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:40, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Oh, right! Well, I need to go around taking that template and all the inverted commas off their articles, then... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:46, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::The Almanac, ''volume 1'', doesn't contain S3 material, true. We're hoping to put out a ''volume 2'', though, that covers s3 and much more. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:13, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

::::::Much more like a special story covering some of the loose ends or something?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 10:39, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know if it's my place to be writing new stories like that. Much more will probably include more of a focus on the toys and perhaps the behind-the-scenes aspects. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:19, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::Sounds interesting but I meant Eisenberg could write the story even if it'S just a short little one. It would be cool if you could include scenes that have been cut out as a bonus on a CD rom or the scrips for them as a chapter. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:24, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::I don't know if this is the right forum for this discussion - maybe over on the talk page for the book itself? - but I was definitely planning to have some storyboard sequences for cut scenes in II, like the Dinobots from Megatron Rising or Wreck-Gar and the Constructicons from Endgame. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:52, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::We can move it once the book comes out. I'm so gonna buy that book! [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 09:01, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::On Sunstorm's model sheet, he is "Sycophant Starscream", yet he is still credited on this wiki as Sunstorm. Since the Liar is the only Starscream clone not to be named on this wiki, I feel Ramjet is his appropriate name. My head hurts.. [[User:Kit|Kit]] 08:12, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::::Yeah, but "Sycophant Starscream" has a toy that's called Sunstorm. Liar Starscream doesn't have a toy. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 08:22, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
Is he, like, still not Ramjet? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:51, 20 August 2009 (EDT)
: He is now Ramjet! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 21 August 2009 (EDT)
:: Something the show itself supports. In addition to his colour scheme, he is eventually given a cone-shaped helmet by Swindle. Ramjet's colours + cone head = might as well. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 17:29, 26 August 2009 (EDT)

== Disambig tag ==

Shouldn't here be a disambig3 tag? Or it will ruin the joke? Just ask in case I miss something. :) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 08:28, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

==Activator==
Does anyone have a toy of this we can put up? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:42, 23 September 2010 (EDT)

== Featured? ==

I'm new(ish) here and I'm not quite certain what a "featured" article is, but if it's just an article that is considered one of the wiki's finest, then I think this should surely be noted as such. I applaud all who were involved in writing it (that being said, it seems most of Screamer's clones get such articles).
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 9:48 PM, 15 February 2011 A.D.

== Lies ==

I know the article was written with purposes of being Sarcastic, but I think that anyone who has never saw the cartoon before would think of us as the liars, not the character itself

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:46, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
: Even without context, if someone gets through this page and they don't pick up on the joke, they're too too dumb to live. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:16, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
::Even the children that the cartoon is theoretically for?[[Special:Contributions/24.13.125.86|24.13.125.86]] 19:18, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
:::Kids aren't dumb. The joke isn't exactly a subtle one. They'll be fine. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:26, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

== Autobot ==

Since this article is full of lies, don't you think we should replace the Decepticon logo at the top of the page with an Autobot logo that links to the Decepticon page?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.248|71.255.172.248]] 14:19, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
:Well, the character has the Decepticon symbol on him anyway, so you could say it's the one thing he doesn't lie about. Or that it's only what he ''says'' that's a lie, not what he displays. Either way, it wouldn't really be that good a gag. --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 14:56, 20 January 2013 (EST)

== Removing all "no and not" ==

There are a lot of sentences using not such as: Ramjet can't transform, and is not redecoed to..., is not a Decepticons and many others.
It can make readers confused although it's meant to be humourous. Should it be removed?

Talk:Ramjet (Animated)

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==Rimmer theme captions==
Does anyone have any idea what a good quote for this page would be, to keep the Rimmer theme?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 09:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:Well, it's not Rimmerific, but I was thinking it would be good to use some play on the "no clone army...definitely no clone army...absolutely no clone army in this show" line from BotCon. After all, what better sums up a clone of Starscream that always lies? (and yes, I know it was sarcasm in the first place, thenkyew - that doesn't make it thematically inappropriate) [[User:Buttbutt|Buttbutt]] 04:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::That would be awesome. Could you upload a picture for that?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 01:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

All the Starscream clones' main pictures (plus a relevant picture on the Starscream (Animated) page) are Rimmer-captioned. Therefore, this one should be too. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ''[[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk page]]'' 16:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

==Colour Scheme Thoughts==
Could it be possible that this Screamer is a nod to the Shattered Glass Starscream? Granted, the colours are slightly different; but when watching the episode that was the first thing that popped to this user's mind. [[User:Lunarius|Lunarius]] 07:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
:Lack of real visual similarity say no. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 07:49, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
::Hrm, alright. Thanks :D [[User:Lunarius|Lunarius]] 07:54, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

== No Clone Army/Judas-Jonathan ==
Amusing as it has been to see these captions ping-pong for the last week or so, I grow weary of it. I take it there's ''some'' merit to either caption, so I'm polling for consensus; the loser gets to be the caption of the inevitable toy recolor or subsequent fiction re-appearance.I vote for "No Clone Army." -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:Sounds like a good compromise. I also vote "no clone army" as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/SFH|contribs]]).
:I have no idea what that Judas-Jonathan one is about. All I know is it sucks, and the "No clone army" thing is incredibly funny and totally works with the overall tone of Liar Starscream's page. So yeah. To hell with the Judas thing. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:::I think it's a Red Dwarf reference, but that's just been the impression I picked up, it could be wrong. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:Never heard of it, and whatever it is, it's not as clever or appropriate as "no clone army." --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 02:07, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::Google, people, sheesh! It's a Red Dwarf quote, apparently part of a long rant describing how slimey a particular character is. While I appreciate the obliquity of the quote's appropriateness, I think the "no clone army" one wins for sheer comprehensibility. That said, I think it'd be much more fitting on the main image for [[Starscream clone (Animated)|Starscream clone]]. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 02:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Repowers speaks the truth. The 'Judas-Jonathan' quote comes from a speech by Lister on Rimmer's character. I think the Rimmer captions suit the Starscream clones, because RImmer himself exhibited those same characteristics - cowardice, megalomania, lying and bootlicking. And the quote for the Female Starscream comes from a Red Dwarf ep which featured a female Rimmer. I think the Rimmer captions should stay. The 'no clone army' works much better for the [[Starscream clone (Animated)|Starscream clone]] article.
:::Besides, just because you don't get a caption doesn't mean you have to remove it. I don't get the 'goth talk' bit from Blackarachnia's article, but am I complaining? Bring back the Rimmer captions! It's the highlight of my week to see them there. [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 02:23, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I think the speaking-truth-by-blatantly-lying "No clone army" (which is apparently a quote from the Botcon 2008 panels) certainly fits the liar better- and while I can see why it'd make sense on the Starscream Clone article- I think it's just about perfect here. I prefer that quote (I might prefer the RD one if I'd seen RD... but I haven't...) and I think its connection to TF gives it an edge. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::Let it be known that I support discarding "Rimmer", whatever the hell it is, and keeping the "clone-army" quote. [[User:Galvanisation|Galvanisation]] 10:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::Shhh... nerds are supposed to be ''ashamed'' of not having seen Red Dwarf or Blakes 7. It's like not having seen Babylon 5! ''Do not advertise your nerdy deficiencies''! -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 10:44, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You forgot failing to read/listen to that utterly remarkable book, the ''Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy'' :) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ''[[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk page]]'' 21:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Thank you for that explanation; I was originally against the Rimmer ref, but that was before I knew that it was a running gag throughout the clone articles. I think it's kind of amazing that the single rant (plus a female-Rimmer line) can apply so aptly, and it fits with our spirit of [[Razorclaw (disambiguation)|multi-article jokes]], so I vote for that.... as long as ''all'' the main-pic captions are Rimmer. Lose one, and the whole gag falls apart, as far as I'm concerned. - [[User:Jackpot|Jackpot]] 15:03, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::::::As might be expected since I'm one of the ones who reverted, I'm wih Bobpiecheese. Keep the Rimmer theme going - the "Clone Army" one should go on the main Clones page with the picture of the hundreds of clones. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] 16:35, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:While I generally approve of having Rimmer captions, for this particular character I think "No clone army" is the ideal quote. It does screw up the theme, but them's the breaks. -- [[User:Greenygal|Greenygal]] 13:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

:Fairly obviously, keep the Rimmer theme going. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ''[[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk page]]'' 21:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
I LIKE Red Dwarf, but I vote against it in the Liar's case. The "no clone army" is way, way, way, way, WAY more fitting. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 21:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:How about a compromise: we keep the 'no clone army' for the main image, but the next image that's added to the article should have a Rimmer-related caption. How about that?
::I believe that's exactly what we're weighing our votes for. Liar is sure to either reappear or get a toy eventually. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 12:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, is the second caption in the article also a Rimmer quote? --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 15:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:No, it's a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3HaRFBSq9k Monty Python quote] (actually, the wording there is slightly different - but the Pythons have rerecorded most of their popular sketches at least once, so the wording in the quote's probably been used at some point). - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] ''[[User talk:SanityOrMadness|talk page]]'' 17:18, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks for the clarification. I thought it seemed like it came out of some British comedy. --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 17:21, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

== "Fiction Area" ==
Maybe you should change the "fiction" header to read "fact" instead. After all, we all know what the opposite of fiction is! [[Special:Contributions/67.160.126.166|67.160.126.166]] 04:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
:And I'm certainly not suggesting we change the Trivia section to Vital Information as well. [[User:Felancer Prime|Felancer Prime]] 11:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I feel like there's a point at which the joke annihilates the usefulness of the article. This one's gimmick happens to straightforward, so it's not very hard to parse... but it's balancing right on the edge of being in need of the seldom used de-snarking template. I don't think you ''can'' burden it with any more snark without rendering it incoherent. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
:I happen to agree with this Derik fellow. (is Derik a real word?) We need to keep the titles of sections as they normally would be, and just have the text written in lie-format. And to keep it all understandable, let's stop putting our comments here in lie-form. I realize I did this before, but it might get kinda tricky to understand when we're lying and when we're not. [[User:Mr. Magorium|Not Steve]][[User talk:Mr. Magorium|complain here]][[Special:Contributions/Mr. Magorium|The Big Book]] 19:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

== "Animated Cartoon" ==
Could we change 'Animated cartoon' to 'not-Animated movie'?
: In theory, yes, we could, but we won't be doing that. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

::::::Why do ''these'' pages keep getting hammered by edits? Everything there was to be said about the clones was said in the first day or so. Is the finale still premiering some places? And why ''this one'' in particular singled out for attention? :~( -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 02:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Because it's the most boring character and gimmick on the entire wiki.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 02:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Because dogpiling a joke into a fine powder is easier than actually CONTRIBUTING. This is one of the reasons I like the humor here. It's a nice measuring stick to see who's going to be worth a fuck to us... plus helps prove why there won't be much competition once we move. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 02:47, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
::::I didn't say it was a good idea to do it - just why people are doing it.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 05:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

== Ramjet ==

The new interview with Wyatt basically says the Liar is known as Ramjet, but I'm not sure if what the status of those image captions were - I mean, were those written by the interviewer, does Wyatt approve of them, whatever? In any case, would that be acceptable basis to move the page to Ramjet (Animated) (along with everything else so far, like the conehead, etc.), or do we still have to wait until Wyatt or Hasbro explicitly say the Liar is Ramjet?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 22:59, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
: Those captions seem to have been written by the interviewer. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 23:04, 14 May 2009 (EDT)
::So, his name [i]is[/i] Ramjet?
:::The interviewer is the guy in no way affiliated with Hasbro or the Cartoon Network in any way. Information he provides personally is in no way official. - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 23:00, 18 May 2009 (EDT)
With the addition of his conehead it might be safe to give him a Ramjet <nowiki>{{noname-unconfirmed}}</nowiki>. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 17:21, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
:That doesn't work when there ''is'' an official name, and that is "Liar Starscream". [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:40, 30 May 2009 (EDT)
::According to Jim Sorenson, Ramjet is going to be the Liar's official name in the Almanac.

<blockquote>Of course, it's not like it was our decision. It all started when Bill and I were brainstorming with Derrick Wyatt about the almanac. I mentioned that we needed a name for her, since everyone else had names (I know that there hasn't been an official toy with the name Ramjet on it, but that'll be in the book too).</blockquote>

Can we move the page now? It's kind of been beaten over our heads for quite a while now, and we were completely willing to make pages for Carrera and Searchlight before getting official confirmation.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 17:53, 1 June 2009 (EDT)
::Carrera and Searchlight had their names on their character model sheets. Ramjet's said "Liar Starscream." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:13, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::Their ''leaked'' model sheets, admittedly, but that was more a case of the sheets confirming the nicknames we'd already decided to give them. I think some of the article still have the nickname template on them. As the Almanac is not going to include season 3 stuff, I'm wondering if this isn't one of those times where we throw our hands up and say "okay, it was leaked, but we're now at the point where it doesn't matter." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 09:27, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::Leaked model sheets? No. Derrick Wyatt, like, told us himself what it said on the model sheets. And by "us" I mean "Monzo." --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 11:40, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::Oh, right! Well, I need to go around taking that template and all the inverted commas off their articles, then... - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 11:46, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::The Almanac, ''volume 1'', doesn't contain S3 material, true. We're hoping to put out a ''volume 2'', though, that covers s3 and much more. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 10:13, 16 July 2009 (EDT)

::::::Much more like a special story covering some of the loose ends or something?[[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 10:39, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::I don't know if it's my place to be writing new stories like that. Much more will probably include more of a focus on the toys and perhaps the behind-the-scenes aspects. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 11:19, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::Sounds interesting but I meant Eisenberg could write the story even if it'S just a short little one. It would be cool if you could include scenes that have been cut out as a bonus on a CD rom or the scrips for them as a chapter. [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 11:24, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::I don't know if this is the right forum for this discussion - maybe over on the talk page for the book itself? - but I was definitely planning to have some storyboard sequences for cut scenes in II, like the Dinobots from Megatron Rising or Wreck-Gar and the Constructicons from Endgame. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] 12:52, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::We can move it once the book comes out. I'm so gonna buy that book! [[User:Dead Metal|Dead Metal]] 09:01, 16 July 2009 (EDT)
:::::::::::On Sunstorm's model sheet, he is "Sycophant Starscream", yet he is still credited on this wiki as Sunstorm. Since the Liar is the only Starscream clone not to be named on this wiki, I feel Ramjet is his appropriate name. My head hurts.. [[User:Kit|Kit]] 08:12, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
::::::::::::Yeah, but "Sycophant Starscream" has a toy that's called Sunstorm. Liar Starscream doesn't have a toy. -[[User:Mazenoise|Mazenoise]] 08:22, 3 August 2009 (EDT)
Is he, like, still not Ramjet? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 22:51, 20 August 2009 (EDT)
: He is now Ramjet! --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:10, 21 August 2009 (EDT)
:: Something the show itself supports. In addition to his colour scheme, he is eventually given a cone-shaped helmet by Swindle. Ramjet's colours + cone head = might as well. [[User:ZeldaTheSwordsman|ZeldaTheSwordsman]] 17:29, 26 August 2009 (EDT)

== Disambig tag ==

Shouldn't here be a disambig3 tag? Or it will ruin the joke? Just ask in case I miss something. :) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 08:28, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

==Activator==
Does anyone have a toy of this we can put up? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 16:42, 23 September 2010 (EDT)

== Featured? ==

I'm new(ish) here and I'm not quite certain what a "featured" article is, but if it's just an article that is considered one of the wiki's finest, then I think this should surely be noted as such. I applaud all who were involved in writing it (that being said, it seems most of Screamer's clones get such articles).
 - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 9:48 PM, 15 February 2011 A.D.

== Lies ==

I know the article was written with purposes of being Sarcastic, but I think that anyone who has never saw the cartoon before would think of us as the liars, not the character itself

--[[User:Metroplex|Metroplex]] 15:46, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
: Even without context, if someone gets through this page and they don't pick up on the joke, they're too too dumb to live. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:16, 20 May 2011 (EDT)
::Even the children that the cartoon is theoretically for?[[Special:Contributions/24.13.125.86|24.13.125.86]] 19:18, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
:::Kids aren't dumb. The joke isn't exactly a subtle one. They'll be fine. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:26, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

== Autobot ==

Since this article is full of lies, don't you think we should replace the Decepticon logo at the top of the page with an Autobot logo that links to the Decepticon page?[[Special:Contributions/71.255.172.248|71.255.172.248]] 14:19, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
:Well, the character has the Decepticon symbol on him anyway, so you could say it's the one thing he doesn't lie about. Or that it's only what he ''says'' that's a lie, not what he displays. Either way, it wouldn't really be that good a gag. --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 14:56, 20 January 2013 (EST)

== Removing all nots and nos ==

There are alot of sentences using not such as, Ramjet can't transform and is not redecoed to .....
It can make readers confused although it's meant to be humourous. Should it be removed?

Ultra Magnus (SG)

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{{disambig3.5|the evil Autobot|his heroic counterpart|Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus}}
:''Ultra Magnus is an evil [[Autobot]] from the [[Transformers: Shattered Glass (franchise)|Shattered Glass]] [[continuity family]].''

[[Image:Invasion-TerminusBlade.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Ever since it was a young dimension, the [[Classicverse]] has been hated by skeletons.]]

'''Ultra Magnus''' long ago grew weary of the tedium of war. He's killed so many and destroyed so much that it's started to all run together in his mind, reduced to a fine paste of boredom. It's been especially hard since he lost the trust of his friend [[Treadshot (SG)|Treadshot]]. Existence just seems so pointless without him at his side. Oh, Magnus has tried to make things interesting again, but each bigger and more elaborate coup only led him to a revolt against his bigger brother, [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]], and failure. For this he lost his face and his freedom, and he was locked away in the prisons of [[Paradron]].

But soon, Ultra Magnus hopes to return and pull off the ultimate thrill. He's destroyed lives and property, certainly, but has he ever destroyed a universe? That would be grand, wouldn't it? Maybe it would even make him feel like he did at the start of the war, when everything was fresh and new. And when that moment comes, he hopes so fervently that his dear Treadshot will be there, with a final, oh-so-brief understanding that his once-friend was wrong to leave him.

==Fiction==
===''Shattered Glass''===
[[Image:Invasion-MagnusFlashback.jpg|left|thumb|250px|There's no panel borders! This isn't a battle in a box at all!]]
At one point, Ultra Magnus led an attempted coup against [[Optimus Prime (SG)|Optimus Prime]], with [[Hound (SG)|Hound]] and [[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]] as his only ''known'' supporters, though Hound was reportedly a link between Magnus and [[Alpha Trion (SG)|Alpha Trion]]. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 28|SG Hound's magazine profile}} However, during the battle between Optimus and Ultra Magnus, the former cheated. {{storylink|Eye in the Sky}} When the coup failed, Prime had Magnus exiled to Paradron as punishment. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 29|SG Cyclonus' magazine profile}}

While trapped with [[Sideswipe (SG)|Sideswipe]] in the maze leading to the [[Omega Terminus]] chamber, [[Blurr (SG)|Blurr]] referred to [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] as a "traitorous lunatic". Sideswipe countered by saying that Blurr was one to talk, and asked how Ultra Magnus was doing. Blurr said Magnus was doing "better than [[Drench (SG)|Drench]]", at least. {{storylink|Dungeons & Dinobots}}

[[Image:Invasion-Magnusportal.jpg|right|thumb|300px|By destroying a [[Marvel Comics|Marvel universe]], SG Magnus will finally prove [[FIRRIB]].]]

With the help of [[Wheeljack (SG)|Wheeljack]], Ultra Magnus was sprung from prison on Paradron, along with [[Wreck-Gar (SG)|Wreck-Gar]] and his [[Junkion (species)#Shattered_Glass|Junkions]]. After augmenting his body to match Optimus Prime's recent upgrade, gathering an army, and acquiring the legendary [[Terminus Blade]], Magnus had the means to both humiliate his brother and make his mark on the multiverse. Before jumping through a portal into another universe via Wheeljack's [[space bridge|Stellar Spanner]], Magnus boasted of his imminent victory before his brother via video feed. This would prove to be Magnus's only mistake, as Optimus Prime forwarded Ultra Magnus's whereabouts to his obsessive nemesis, Treadshot.

Ultra Magnus and his army appeared in the sky over the [[Ironworks]] base on [[Primax 207.0 Epsilon]]'s [[Earth]]. After most of the heroic Autobot opposition outside were corrupted and integrated into Magnus's army as Junkions, Ultra Magnus led them inside Ironworks, where he made quick work of a second wave. Complete victory was interrupted only by the arrival of Treadshot's heroic Decepticons through a portal. Though initially aggravated, Magnus quickly became elated when he saw Treadshot had come for him. However, Magnus's primary objective remained, so he used the Terminus Blade to send himself and his officers elsewhere.

[[Image:Invasion-whatistha.jpg|left|thumb|250px|You two shall pay dearly for ruining my special day.]]

Below, Wheeljack had erected machinery that would direct the [[Rarified Energon]] that Ironworks guarded to the surface, where it would interact with a space bridge projector that, with the introduction of the Terminus Blade, would open up a rift in space time which would help Magnus destroy... a lot. As Magnus battled Treadshot above ground, the machinery below was guarded by force field. [[Sir Soundwave]] and [[Octopunch (SG)|Octopunch]] managed to expand the perimeter of the force field to be large enough to protect the entire Earth, which they thought would save the day. However, Ultra Magnus had been thinking bigger, as he had planned to destroy the entire universe. Ultimately, Earth was protected as it was brought into orbit over his own universe's [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] as the entire rest of the Earth's universe was catastrophically destroyed by the chain reaction of Rarified Energon.

Content in his largely unimpeded victory, Magnus and his army fled, while Treadshot threatened lovingly graphic revenge.
{{storylink|Invasion Prologue}} {{storylink|Invasion (issue)|Invasion}}

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==Toys==
===Universe===
[[Image:Universe2003toy-UltraMagnusBIAB.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Hey, remember me? Well, I'm me.]]
*'''Ultra Magnus with Over-Run vs. Treadshot with Nightbeat''' (Battle in a Box, 2004)

: An official repurposing of Universe Ultra Magnus, he is a [[redeco]] of the Super-Con (aka Deluxe) version of ''[[Transformers: Armada (toyline)|Armada]]'' [[Optimus Prime (Armada)/toys|Optimus Prime]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Universe|Ultra Magnus]] transforms into a long-nosed tractor-trailer cab of made-up model. Attaching a Mini-Con to the [[Powerlinx]] plug on his back activates a double-fisted "punching" gimmick. His smokestacks can be removed from his forearms, but don't really ''do'' anything if you do so, so why bother?

: Magnus was available only in a ''[[Transformers: Universe (2003 toyline)|Universe]]'' "[[Battle in a Box]]" set with his Mini-Con partner [[Over-Run (Armada)|Over-Run]], and the Decepticon-allied pairing of [[Treadshot (Universe 2003)|Treadshot]] and ''his'' Mini-Con partner [[Nightbeat (Armada)|Nightbeat]]. The set was available only at "[[market six]]" stores like Kohl's, at the same time as the [[Smokescreen (Armada)|Smokescreen]]/[[Ransack (Universe 2003)|Ransack]] set.

: This mold was also used to make ''Armada'' [[Nemesis Prime (Armada)|Nemesis Prime]]. This toy may be [[repurposing|repurposed]] as ''SG'' Magnus or he may be the same dude. Read below.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2004/Autobot/BIABUltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''

===Timelines===
[[Image:Timelinestoy-BC2012UltraMagnus.jpg|right|thumb|300px|He puts the "foe" in FoeYay.]]
*'''Invasion''' ([[BotCon 2012]] box set)
**''Accessories:'' Terminus Blade

:''[[Transformers Timelines (toyline)|Timelines]]''/''[[Transformers: Shattered Glass (toyline)|Shattered Glass]]'' Ultra Magnus is a [[redeco]] of [[Transformers (2010 toyline)|''Transformers'']] [[Optimus Prime (G1)/toys#Transformers (2010)|Optimus Prime]], in the colors of ''[[Diaclone]]'' Powered Convoy (who was later redecoed into ''Generation 1'' [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Generation 1|Ultra Magnus]].) He transforms into a racing truck, and features what appears to be the mold's [[Retool#Gang-molded alternate parts|second head]], with a translucent skull-like face and blue eyes, seen previously only in the instructions. Like Prime, Magnus features a rub sign on his roof, and has a (non-detachable) matrix gimmick in robot mode formed by a relief pattern on the inside of the cab's side windows, which is visible through the windshield/chest in robot mode. He comes with a sword that he can wield with both hands, and the sword forms the hitch of the truck in vehicle mode.

:Ultra Magnus was released in a box set with [[Sir Soundwave#Timelines|Soundwave]], [[Tracks (SG)|Tracks]], [[Treadshot (SG)|Treadshot]], [[Overlord (Masterforce)#Timelines|Gigatron]], and [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)#Timelines|Metalhawk]]. The original version of the mold was also redecoed into [[Optimus Prime (SG)#InvasionSGPrime|''Shattered Glass'' Optimus Prime]] and [[Scourge (RID)#Timelines|''Timelines'' Scourge]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2012/Autobot/BCUltraMagnus/ultramagnus.htm More information on BotCon Ultra Magnus at TFU.info]''

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==Notes==
[[Image:UltraMagnusSG-FromTheEditorsDesk.jpg|right|thumb|150px|Okay, but where's the translucent skull?]]
* In [[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 22]], a "[[Mini Mayhem!]]"-style comic featuring a version of ''Shattered'' Magnus appeared in "From the Editor's Desk..." along with [[Rodimus (SG)|Rodimus]] and [[Eric Siebenaler]]. Though it's an official appearance of Magnus, it's probably not in-continuity. The inclusion of SG Ultra Magnus (with Powered Convoy colors) in this comic was in repayment of a favor from the author to [[user:Poweredconvoy|Randy Para]], who is often known online as "Powered Convoy".
* Ultra Magnus used to look like [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/toys#Universe|"Battle in a Box" Ultra Magnus]]. When the "Invasion" comic's creative team was asked if they were actually the same guy versus being a [[repurposing]], the simultaneous answer was "Sure," "Yes," and "No." Somebody's a spoilsport. However, with the establishment of [[Treadshot (Universe 2003)|Treadshot]] as a Generation 1 character, that Ultra Magnus is now a version of the Generation 1 character by proxy.

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[[Category:Dimension hoppers]]
[[Category:Fan Club-original characters]]
[[Category:Repurposed toys]]
[[Category:Shattered Glass Autobots]]
[[Category:Timelines characters]]

Talk:Knockoff

2015-02-28T09:23:35Z

Pat: /* Bootleg vs knock off */

This page needs a pic of that SEND THE BOOKS Energon Prime KO. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Anyone have anything they want also covered in here? I think it's fairly complete otherwise...--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

"It is probably safe to assume that knockoffs available in stores are quite legally produced and sold, and for those fans who collect them, this is fortunate: they provide a bizarre variety that is (with good reason) not to be found in official products." <-- Knockoffs are legal? Yeah, no. In other news, the number of African elephants triples!

Just a general note - I've never actually seen the names of the various Chinese KO companies thrown around before; can we get a citation/link to an article on these guys? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 10:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:Also, following up on myself, [http://jintoys.com/product.asp?A3=DA these guys] are some kind of gods of knockoffery. They have bootlegs I've never seen before, but would love to get my mitts on (G2 Powermasters, those Decepticon jets that had the scopes, tons of Real Gears, all kinds of crazy.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 11:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
::Good lord, that's like the axis of flea market evil. I've seen most of that stuff. Sadly, no G2 Powermasters however.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)a
:::Hey look, [http://jintoys.com/photo/DA/DA7802.jpg USA Dark Saber] and [http://jintoys.com/photo/DA/DA8919.jpg a Shrapnel that wishes he were dead]!--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'll put citations in later today if I get the chance to. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

:done --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 23:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Trendmasters--isn't it more likely that they were just importing Leader Shine/Champion Crown toys themselves rather than KOing off Leader Shine, TFs, and Power Rangers? This would make sense since LS/CC themselves made KOs of Transformers and Power Rangers. By the way, what KO TFs and Power Rangers did they make? Were they the ones that made those small low-detail Dinobot knockoffs that Kay Bee used to sell in the 90s? I honestly had no idea Trendmasters was involved in KOs in the 90s until you brought that up. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't learn about it myself until I was sorting through some of my old KO cards last year. I'd say they were importing the Leader Shine figures, but there's absolutely no mention of Leader Shine on the cards I've got, which are all Leader Shine insect figures purchased at Kay Bee Toys years ago, which is why I included them here. I have yet to find the figures again, but I recall them still having the Leader Shine mark on them, which they retained on the Tek Toys versions and even some of the Big Lots issues. I know for a fact that Trendmasters made bootlegs of Power Rangers' Turbo Rangers figures without the vast majority of paint applications. I've checked around a bit and believe they may have also been the supplier of the Grandus KO that Toys R Us carried for a short while, although that may have been Tek Toys again (it's tricky to get ahold of these dastardly boxes). I'm also reasonably certain that they were among the loads of companies that marketed through Kay Bee Toys, and are likely the supplier of the toys that ripped off the Dinobot transformations. They might have also been a US importer of the Dai-Lung Master Godzilla-ized Grimlock figure, but I haven't been able to find an old US boxed sample to check.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::If the Trendmasters insects have the Leader Shine mark on them, then they were probably importing them. The fact that the package doesn't mention Leader Shine isn't really a big deal--Sonokong Brave and TF toys don't mention Takara on their package, after all. The other bootlegs they sold were probably Leader Shine bootlegs as well. Do you have pictures of the PR Turbo bootlegs? When you say Grandus KO, you mean Sky Garry, right? I don't think that was them, but I believe I have one at home, so I can check when I get a chance. I think it was a company based out of Taiwan. I'm pretty sure the Mecha Godzilla Grimlock was just Leader Shine/Champion Crown releasing it directly. As for the Kay Bee dinobot knockoffs--that seems more likely to be Trendmasters given that (a) it was sold at Kay Bee as well, and (b) it fits Leader Shine's M.O. of a toy that transformers the same but is completely retooled. Too bad they were hard to find even back then. It would probably be nearly impossible to find them now. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 19:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I saw McDonalds Manta Ray with some Barbie knockoff at a flea market once. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.18.164|184.56.18.164]] 23:57, 6 August 2011 (EDT))
==Is this an knock off==
hello i was wondering if [http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-G1-Optimus-Prime-Reissue-Toy-Figure-Collection-Set-MISB-Brand-New-/281456334878?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item41881ad81e this] was an KO--[[User:Heckler|Heckler]] ([[User talk:Heckler|talk]]) 19:57, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
: It's only $50, so definitely yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:39, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
: I was getting suspicious with the low price so my guess it was either stolen(which is why it's dirt cheap so someone can buy it quickly and not get caught by law enforcement or a knock off--[[User:Heckler|Heckler]] ([[User talk:Heckler|talk]]) 19:57, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
==eBay crackdown?==
I'm pretty sure I heard that virtually all the auctions for the chinese G1 knockoffs have been pulled from eBay. I certainly can't seem to find a Mirage, Metroplex, or cassette set right now. I'm assuming Hasbro said something to eBay? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Just asking ==

Should anything be said here about things like iG34r and F4nsPr0j3¢t or would it be best to ignore them? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:04, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
:iGear are, at this point, a knockoff manufacturer. FansProject are not.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
::FansProject has yet to copy anything from a Hasbro mold, even wheels, so that's a resounding no. I think I'll leave iGear out for now as they're mainly just infringing on a copyright currently as opposed to making straight up copies of Hasbro and Takara molds to my knowledge, but I'll suppose I'll wait and see.--[[User:MCRG Again|MCRG Again]] 17:28, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Nope, iGear has actually [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generation-1-1/igear-ig-pp01-mini-masterpiece-optimus-prime-168342/ made the jump] with a scaled-down Masterpiece Optimus Prime knockoff.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:40, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

== Uh... ==

The Chinese even dare to use the modified version logo of TFW2005 on their knockoff package...[http://tfnd.net/BBS/showthread.php?p=134997#post134997] --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 11:02, 28 November 2009 (EST)
:Well, if you're already stealing molds, and Dreamwave art, that's kind of spit in the ocean.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:06, 28 November 2009 (EST)

== Bootleg vs knock off ==

Does anyone else see a difference between these two things? I had always thought of bootlegs as unofficial productions from the actual HasTak molds, while knock offs are made using molds produced by the knock off manufacturer. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:56, 20 December 2009 (EST)
::Nope, bootleg is a synonym of knockoff/knockoff is a synonyn of bootleg. No differences

==Space Warriors: Beast Tech Fighters==
I've owned a few for a long time, and I'm surprised they aren't mentioned here. Agglo, a Hong Kong based toy manufacturer known for low-cost children's items and knockoffs of toys from other companies, made knockoffs in this line of Transmetal 2 Rattrap, Transmetal 2 Megatron, RID Megatron, Beast Machines Optimus Primal (but this one is more accurate to the show than the real toy ironically), Leo Convoy, Heinrad, Armordillo, BW Sonar, Transmetal 2 Spittor, Scarem and some others as well. I own all of them except for RID Megatron and the latter 4. (And I lost the Leo Convoy Knockoff, which saddens me sense I loved that toy) they are all however, very low quality plastic which breaks very, very easy. Another interesting thing to note: On its packaging on the front, its main robot it likes to show is Beast Machines Cheetor, which so far I've not seen them have any toys of. Still, I feel they are worth mentioning sense Beast Wars Knockoffs are rather rare.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

Added to article, sense no one ever replied. I have proof so if you need any pictures as proof, I can provide them. (I own alot of them) There is also this youtube video if you need more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONfMDWCpQ0Y--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
and just in case that wasn't enough proof, I found another one on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKM5LfbFhpY--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

== Kid(d)i Toys ==

Is it "Kidi Toys" or "Kiddi Toys"? Currently both are used in the article. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:21, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

== Quick Change Transforming System ==
Any word on this line of toys? Pretty much all of them are G1 molds and is known for its enlarged minicons and shrunken Fortress Maximus.
:Plus, it has those Robot Masters knockoffs, including a Star Saber that can combine with Victory Leo, but ''can't transform''. Then some other oddities, like that dragonfly robot that is evidently an original mold. [[Special:Contributions/72.35.60.2|72.35.60.2]] 11:00, 22 November 2010 (EST)

== iGear ==

As far as I'm concerned, they don't deserve to be shoved into the "knockoff companies" list, especially not without further explanation.

What's needed is an "unlicensed third party products" section that explains the legal problems surrounding them. Groups like iGear, Perfect Effect, the WST Dinobots company and similar collector-oriented garage production companies belong there, not with the mass production "Fitedeformdeform" folks. (Though I admit the G1 counterfeit folks create some sort of link between the two groups.) Transrepro and their "Black Tracks" incident should also belong there.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:55, 25 November 2010 (EST)

:I'm not really an expert on third party stuff, but iGear is the third party company that is most often scoffed at by the community for their delving into scaled down Masterpiece figures. A lot of their stuff seems to be original, but that scaled down Prime and Megatron and those Masterpiece Coneheads really got everyone into a tizzy. iGear was either placed on the page seriously by someone who considered iGear to be treading the line between unlicensed producer and knockoff company, or as a joke from someone who has seen the shitstorm about the company online. Whichever it is, I just wanted to get my two cents in. Unlicensed producers and their products, have also been said to have [[City_Commander#Notes|no place on the wiki]]. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 17:11, 30 December 2010 (EST)

::Well, I'd say if a general catch-all "knockoff" article has a place on the Wiki, then a single, catch-all "unlicensed third party products and add-ons" article should exist too. Not a blow-by-blow rundown on every single release and variation, but an overview of the phenomenon in general, and a brief rundown on the various "companies". Stuff like the old Unicron.com accessory packs could also go there.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:01, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
:::I tend to agree, but I think it could be more trouble than it's worth, as people would constantly be anon-updating it with the latest EYE-PEE VYOLATOR COMBAT MACHINE POPTIMUS FIRST or whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:16, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
::::I certainly see what you're getting at. Plus new companies pop up all the time. Plus once it's made, people may start demanding individual pages for the individual companies. I say if we're going to make a page, best to make sure someone monitors it, or it's kept locked. They are as much a part of the Transformers market as the [[for parts]] and knockoff pages are. Personally, I think the whole third party thing will blow over soon, but that's probably since I don't purchase the stuff. Also, the page may contain unneeded bias towards or against producers of the products. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 00:20, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

== Gold Knockoff ==

IIRC, I've ever saw gold or silver non-licensed products in other toy franchises, but this is the first time I see a [http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp357/andy02142008/DSC02462.jpg Gold Knockoff] [http://tfnd.net/discuz/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=13833 Transformer]. Should this be mentioned? Or not because it is rarely seen? --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:13, 28 June 2011 (EDT)
:Gold Transformer bootlegs have been around since at least the early '90s. They aren't terribly frequent, but they aren't particularly notable either.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 23:34, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

== Another court case ==

The article mentions Hasbro Bradley vs. Sparkle Toys, but how about Wales Industrial vs. Hasbro Bradley? I'm not particularly versed in legalese, but from how I understand it, that case also serves as a precedence regarding Hasbro's copyrights vs. knockoffs. Anyone?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 10:21, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

== Quick Change Battle Robot ==

The Family Dollar in my neighborhood is selling fake knock offs of Transformers called Quickchangers. There are 5 different robots. That look like different Autobots. There's no good vs. Evil, character bios, no character names, all five are identified only as "Battle Robot". The Quick Change Battle Robot.[[Special:Contributions/71.162.103.131|71.162.103.131]] 14:25, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

== Alright so is there an official TFWiki policy on 3rd party toys ==

Because in the last 1-2 years the number of them has positively exploded, in many cases they produce better representations of the characters than Hasbro/Takara themselves, and this Wiki is getting much less comprehensive for basically putting its head in the sand. If there's no official policy making them verboten, I'm going to start adding individual pages for the companies, and we can decide whether to add the individual toys to their official character section, or make new pages for them. [[User:Hagetaka|Hagetaka]] 18:03, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:...how exactly is this wiki less comprehensive in its purview of covering the Transformers story and merch by not covering ex-canon, illegal toys? If they did open it up, where would it logically end? Would they be obligated to cover any Optimus Prime doodles that some dude made and sold to a kid's mom for a nickel? What about Robot Chicken?
:A bit hyperbolic, sure, but at least stuff like Robot Chicken isn't flagrantly defying IP laws.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:08, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:The official word on these "third party" toys is actually on the [[Customizing]] article: ''As advanced casting and mold-making technology becomes more readily available, a number of fans have turned to mass-producing their creations. These range from model kits of the Quintessons to fully transformable model kits of Wheelie and Cyclonus and "upgrade" kits to add extra parts to Classics Cliffjumper and Ultra Magnus. As these are not officially licensed Hasbro/Takara product, they are generally beyond the purview of this Wiki, so we'll just leave it at "Yes, we know they exist and yes, they're neat." '' --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:12, 5 November 2012 (EST)
::"ex-canon, illegal toys"? Pffttt- whatever. Get your panties out of a twist and look at the situation realistically. They're unlicensed, copyright-infringing adult collectibles aimed at hardcore TF fans. Which, surprise surprise, happens to be the core audience here. A huge number of hardcore TF fans have at least one of them, and only their high cost is keeping them from even greater popularity. The two Devastator redesigns, the upcoming Superion redesign and Omega Supreme are all drawing news and excitement. Half the news on TF fan sites is coming from the 3rd party area. Whether you dislike them or not, they are there and a major and growing part of the fandom. The stance as copied on the [[Customizing]] article was fine for its time, but woefully outdated. We're way beyond extra guns for Classics Bumblebee or a bigger sword for God Magnus here. [[User:Hagetaka|Hagetaka]] 19:47, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:::The news coverage doesn't mean squat. They still remain unlicensed product and beyond the purview of this Wiki, and that has ''always'' been the stance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:50, 5 November 2012 (EST)

:::"'''Supreme Battle Truck Leader X15-A''' is an unofficial Transformer that looks kind of like [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]." There's the entire article for a knockoff. The wikia could use an edge, why not try to convince '''them''' to document 3rd party stuff?--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:24, 5 November 2012 (EST)
::::"Look at the situation realistically." Okay. Realistically, Transformers is an entertainment franchise owned by Hasbro and TakaraTomy. These two companies license out some portions of the production of this franchise to other companies. As these 3rd party companies are not Hasbro, TakaraTomy or a licensee of Hasbro or TakaraTomy, their products are not actually Transformers. As they are not TFs and have not been featured in fiction alongside TFs, they are not something we cover. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:46, 6 November 2012 (EST)
:::Actually, I've got a side question. To my understanding, one of the reasons that these third party groups aren't already burned to ashes is that Hasbro is "unaware of that knock-off". Since Hasbro employees edit this wiki, wouldn't coverage of knock-offs remove that excuse and ''force'' Hasbro to come down upon the third party groups Like The Hammer Of Thor?
::::I mean, if I'm not out of my gourd here, wouldn't wiki coverage of the third party knockoffs be the ''last'' thing their fans and manufacturers would want?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 10:21, 6 November 2012 (EST)

== Third party article ==

Obnoxious user up there does have a point: 3rd party toys have become a major phenomena in the fandom. We should have an article to address it - it could closely parallel this one in structure and content. - [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:54, 2 February 2013 (EST)
:i was on the verge of creating the article myself ([[third party toys]]? [[3rd party merchandise]]?) & linking it to [[knockoff]] & [[customizing]] when i thought first i should check those articles & talk pages. Glad i did. When i'm more awake, would someone show me how to make a whatchamacallit, Sandstorm? sandbox? Here's a rough draft of what i was thinking:
::Some Transformers [[fandom|fans]], desiring greater [[show-accuracy]] and [[articulation]] than [[Hasbro|official]] [[TakaraTomy|products]] provide, have [[to sell toys|set themselves up]] as third party toymakers. For Hasbro's response to these third parties, see [[Hasbro Q&A/May 2009]], particularly [[Hasbro_Q%26A/May_2009#TFW2005|here]] and [[Hasbro_Q%26A/May_2009#Transformers_Collectors.27_Club|here]]. Note, however, that at least one third party figure has been [[canonizing|canonized]]: a JizaiToys design used as the title character in [[Spotlight: Wheelie]]. See also: [[customizing]], [[knockoff]]
:--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 04:40, 29 September 2014 (EDT)
::If we're going to discuss it here, it needs to be sufficiently vague. Also, I believe the JizaiToys designs in particular were sold legally at one of the Japanese conventions - someone who knows more about it can fill in the blanks, but at certain Japanese cons, there's a sort of "one day license" that makes your otherwise third-party product temporarily authorized. So that's a grey-ish area. Also, IIRC, an MTMTE cover used a third party Gears and Huffer as art references at some point. I think that's already been documented. IN OTHER WORDS: there probably oughta be some kind of article on the concept, referencing some specific examples where they've been used in official materials as reference models, etc., but largely remaining at arm's length. Certainly no articles on specific products, and I'd even be disinclined to mention specific products outside of the most absolutely necessary - like how the very first known 3P accessory was a fusion cannon for AM Megatron, sold under one of those one-day licenses at a Japanese convention (anyone else remember these? Someone had a few at the early ''early'' BotCons...) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 07:23, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

== Possible addition of knockoff entertainment? ==

Does anyone else think we should have a small section dedicated to animated films that are infamous for ripping off the designs of Transformers/Diaclone/Microman/Go-bots toys? I've heard of a few, like "Diatron 5" and "Phoenix King" and I think it might be worth mentioning that the transformers toys aren't the only things being illegally ripped off by dubious companies.

==What ISN'T a knockoff?==
I feel like we probably need a bit here about Con-Ver-Tors, which while they were "bootleg" in the sense that they weren't official Transformers product, were actually made using licensed molds from ...Bandai, IIRC. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 09:19, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

== Fansproject ==

I oftently heard of Fansproject. Their toys look really simillar to the original and are quite expensive. Do they count as KO companies or fan-made customs?

Talk:Knockoff

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Pat: /* Fansproject */ new section

This page needs a pic of that SEND THE BOOKS Energon Prime KO. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 16:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
:Done.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Anyone have anything they want also covered in here? I think it's fairly complete otherwise...--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:08, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

"It is probably safe to assume that knockoffs available in stores are quite legally produced and sold, and for those fans who collect them, this is fortunate: they provide a bizarre variety that is (with good reason) not to be found in official products." <-- Knockoffs are legal? Yeah, no. In other news, the number of African elephants triples!

Just a general note - I've never actually seen the names of the various Chinese KO companies thrown around before; can we get a citation/link to an article on these guys? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 10:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:Also, following up on myself, [http://jintoys.com/product.asp?A3=DA these guys] are some kind of gods of knockoffery. They have bootlegs I've never seen before, but would love to get my mitts on (G2 Powermasters, those Decepticon jets that had the scopes, tons of Real Gears, all kinds of crazy.) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 11:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
::Good lord, that's like the axis of flea market evil. I've seen most of that stuff. Sadly, no G2 Powermasters however.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)a
:::Hey look, [http://jintoys.com/photo/DA/DA7802.jpg USA Dark Saber] and [http://jintoys.com/photo/DA/DA8919.jpg a Shrapnel that wishes he were dead]!--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 08:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
:I'll put citations in later today if I get the chance to. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

:done --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 23:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Trendmasters--isn't it more likely that they were just importing Leader Shine/Champion Crown toys themselves rather than KOing off Leader Shine, TFs, and Power Rangers? This would make sense since LS/CC themselves made KOs of Transformers and Power Rangers. By the way, what KO TFs and Power Rangers did they make? Were they the ones that made those small low-detail Dinobot knockoffs that Kay Bee used to sell in the 90s? I honestly had no idea Trendmasters was involved in KOs in the 90s until you brought that up. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 15:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't learn about it myself until I was sorting through some of my old KO cards last year. I'd say they were importing the Leader Shine figures, but there's absolutely no mention of Leader Shine on the cards I've got, which are all Leader Shine insect figures purchased at Kay Bee Toys years ago, which is why I included them here. I have yet to find the figures again, but I recall them still having the Leader Shine mark on them, which they retained on the Tek Toys versions and even some of the Big Lots issues. I know for a fact that Trendmasters made bootlegs of Power Rangers' Turbo Rangers figures without the vast majority of paint applications. I've checked around a bit and believe they may have also been the supplier of the Grandus KO that Toys R Us carried for a short while, although that may have been Tek Toys again (it's tricky to get ahold of these dastardly boxes). I'm also reasonably certain that they were among the loads of companies that marketed through Kay Bee Toys, and are likely the supplier of the toys that ripped off the Dinobot transformations. They might have also been a US importer of the Dai-Lung Master Godzilla-ized Grimlock figure, but I haven't been able to find an old US boxed sample to check.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 07:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
::If the Trendmasters insects have the Leader Shine mark on them, then they were probably importing them. The fact that the package doesn't mention Leader Shine isn't really a big deal--Sonokong Brave and TF toys don't mention Takara on their package, after all. The other bootlegs they sold were probably Leader Shine bootlegs as well. Do you have pictures of the PR Turbo bootlegs? When you say Grandus KO, you mean Sky Garry, right? I don't think that was them, but I believe I have one at home, so I can check when I get a chance. I think it was a company based out of Taiwan. I'm pretty sure the Mecha Godzilla Grimlock was just Leader Shine/Champion Crown releasing it directly. As for the Kay Bee dinobot knockoffs--that seems more likely to be Trendmasters given that (a) it was sold at Kay Bee as well, and (b) it fits Leader Shine's M.O. of a toy that transformers the same but is completely retooled. Too bad they were hard to find even back then. It would probably be nearly impossible to find them now. --[[User:Might Gaine|Might Gaine]] 19:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
I saw McDonalds Manta Ray with some Barbie knockoff at a flea market once. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.18.164|184.56.18.164]] 23:57, 6 August 2011 (EDT))
==Is this an knock off==
hello i was wondering if [http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-G1-Optimus-Prime-Reissue-Toy-Figure-Collection-Set-MISB-Brand-New-/281456334878?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item41881ad81e this] was an KO--[[User:Heckler|Heckler]] ([[User talk:Heckler|talk]]) 19:57, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
: It's only $50, so definitely yes. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 00:39, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
: I was getting suspicious with the low price so my guess it was either stolen(which is why it's dirt cheap so someone can buy it quickly and not get caught by law enforcement or a knock off--[[User:Heckler|Heckler]] ([[User talk:Heckler|talk]]) 19:57, 10 October 2014 (EDT)
==eBay crackdown?==
I'm pretty sure I heard that virtually all the auctions for the chinese G1 knockoffs have been pulled from eBay. I certainly can't seem to find a Mirage, Metroplex, or cassette set right now. I'm assuming Hasbro said something to eBay? [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 18:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

== Just asking ==

Should anything be said here about things like iG34r and F4nsPr0j3¢t or would it be best to ignore them? - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 15:04, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
:iGear are, at this point, a knockoff manufacturer. FansProject are not.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:07, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
::FansProject has yet to copy anything from a Hasbro mold, even wheels, so that's a resounding no. I think I'll leave iGear out for now as they're mainly just infringing on a copyright currently as opposed to making straight up copies of Hasbro and Takara molds to my knowledge, but I'll suppose I'll wait and see.--[[User:MCRG Again|MCRG Again]] 17:28, 28 August 2009 (EDT)
:::Nope, iGear has actually [http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/generation-1-1/igear-ig-pp01-mini-masterpiece-optimus-prime-168342/ made the jump] with a scaled-down Masterpiece Optimus Prime knockoff.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 17:40, 28 August 2009 (EDT)

== Uh... ==

The Chinese even dare to use the modified version logo of TFW2005 on their knockoff package...[http://tfnd.net/BBS/showthread.php?p=134997#post134997] --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 11:02, 28 November 2009 (EST)
:Well, if you're already stealing molds, and Dreamwave art, that's kind of spit in the ocean.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 11:06, 28 November 2009 (EST)

== Bootleg vs knock off ==

Does anyone else see a difference between these two things? I had always thought of bootlegs as unofficial productions from the actual HasTak molds, while knock offs are made using molds produced by the knock off manufacturer. [[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 23:56, 20 December 2009 (EST)

==Space Warriors: Beast Tech Fighters==
I've owned a few for a long time, and I'm surprised they aren't mentioned here. Agglo, a Hong Kong based toy manufacturer known for low-cost children's items and knockoffs of toys from other companies, made knockoffs in this line of Transmetal 2 Rattrap, Transmetal 2 Megatron, RID Megatron, Beast Machines Optimus Primal (but this one is more accurate to the show than the real toy ironically), Leo Convoy, Heinrad, Armordillo, BW Sonar, Transmetal 2 Spittor, Scarem and some others as well. I own all of them except for RID Megatron and the latter 4. (And I lost the Leo Convoy Knockoff, which saddens me sense I loved that toy) they are all however, very low quality plastic which breaks very, very easy. Another interesting thing to note: On its packaging on the front, its main robot it likes to show is Beast Machines Cheetor, which so far I've not seen them have any toys of. Still, I feel they are worth mentioning sense Beast Wars Knockoffs are rather rare.--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

Added to article, sense no one ever replied. I have proof so if you need any pictures as proof, I can provide them. (I own alot of them) There is also this youtube video if you need more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONfMDWCpQ0Y--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]
and just in case that wasn't enough proof, I found another one on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKM5LfbFhpY--[[User:Chipmonk328|Chipmonk328]]

== Kid(d)i Toys ==

Is it "Kidi Toys" or "Kiddi Toys"? Currently both are used in the article. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:21, 7 September 2010 (EDT)

== Quick Change Transforming System ==
Any word on this line of toys? Pretty much all of them are G1 molds and is known for its enlarged minicons and shrunken Fortress Maximus.
:Plus, it has those Robot Masters knockoffs, including a Star Saber that can combine with Victory Leo, but ''can't transform''. Then some other oddities, like that dragonfly robot that is evidently an original mold. [[Special:Contributions/72.35.60.2|72.35.60.2]] 11:00, 22 November 2010 (EST)

== iGear ==

As far as I'm concerned, they don't deserve to be shoved into the "knockoff companies" list, especially not without further explanation.

What's needed is an "unlicensed third party products" section that explains the legal problems surrounding them. Groups like iGear, Perfect Effect, the WST Dinobots company and similar collector-oriented garage production companies belong there, not with the mass production "Fitedeformdeform" folks. (Though I admit the G1 counterfeit folks create some sort of link between the two groups.) Transrepro and their "Black Tracks" incident should also belong there.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 11:55, 25 November 2010 (EST)

:I'm not really an expert on third party stuff, but iGear is the third party company that is most often scoffed at by the community for their delving into scaled down Masterpiece figures. A lot of their stuff seems to be original, but that scaled down Prime and Megatron and those Masterpiece Coneheads really got everyone into a tizzy. iGear was either placed on the page seriously by someone who considered iGear to be treading the line between unlicensed producer and knockoff company, or as a joke from someone who has seen the shitstorm about the company online. Whichever it is, I just wanted to get my two cents in. Unlicensed producers and their products, have also been said to have [[City_Commander#Notes|no place on the wiki]]. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 17:11, 30 December 2010 (EST)

::Well, I'd say if a general catch-all "knockoff" article has a place on the Wiki, then a single, catch-all "unlicensed third party products and add-ons" article should exist too. Not a blow-by-blow rundown on every single release and variation, but an overview of the phenomenon in general, and a brief rundown on the various "companies". Stuff like the old Unicron.com accessory packs could also go there.--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 13:01, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
:::I tend to agree, but I think it could be more trouble than it's worth, as people would constantly be anon-updating it with the latest EYE-PEE VYOLATOR COMBAT MACHINE POPTIMUS FIRST or whatever. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:16, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
::::I certainly see what you're getting at. Plus new companies pop up all the time. Plus once it's made, people may start demanding individual pages for the individual companies. I say if we're going to make a page, best to make sure someone monitors it, or it's kept locked. They are as much a part of the Transformers market as the [[for parts]] and knockoff pages are. Personally, I think the whole third party thing will blow over soon, but that's probably since I don't purchase the stuff. Also, the page may contain unneeded bias towards or against producers of the products. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 00:20, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

== Gold Knockoff ==

IIRC, I've ever saw gold or silver non-licensed products in other toy franchises, but this is the first time I see a [http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp357/andy02142008/DSC02462.jpg Gold Knockoff] [http://tfnd.net/discuz/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=13833 Transformer]. Should this be mentioned? Or not because it is rarely seen? --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 12:13, 28 June 2011 (EDT)
:Gold Transformer bootlegs have been around since at least the early '90s. They aren't terribly frequent, but they aren't particularly notable either.--[[User:MCRG|MCRG]] 23:34, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

== Another court case ==

The article mentions Hasbro Bradley vs. Sparkle Toys, but how about Wales Industrial vs. Hasbro Bradley? I'm not particularly versed in legalese, but from how I understand it, that case also serves as a precedence regarding Hasbro's copyrights vs. knockoffs. Anyone?--[[User:Nevermore|Nevermore]] 10:21, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

== Quick Change Battle Robot ==

The Family Dollar in my neighborhood is selling fake knock offs of Transformers called Quickchangers. There are 5 different robots. That look like different Autobots. There's no good vs. Evil, character bios, no character names, all five are identified only as "Battle Robot". The Quick Change Battle Robot.[[Special:Contributions/71.162.103.131|71.162.103.131]] 14:25, 8 September 2012 (EDT)

== Alright so is there an official TFWiki policy on 3rd party toys ==

Because in the last 1-2 years the number of them has positively exploded, in many cases they produce better representations of the characters than Hasbro/Takara themselves, and this Wiki is getting much less comprehensive for basically putting its head in the sand. If there's no official policy making them verboten, I'm going to start adding individual pages for the companies, and we can decide whether to add the individual toys to their official character section, or make new pages for them. [[User:Hagetaka|Hagetaka]] 18:03, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:...how exactly is this wiki less comprehensive in its purview of covering the Transformers story and merch by not covering ex-canon, illegal toys? If they did open it up, where would it logically end? Would they be obligated to cover any Optimus Prime doodles that some dude made and sold to a kid's mom for a nickel? What about Robot Chicken?
:A bit hyperbolic, sure, but at least stuff like Robot Chicken isn't flagrantly defying IP laws.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 18:08, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:The official word on these "third party" toys is actually on the [[Customizing]] article: ''As advanced casting and mold-making technology becomes more readily available, a number of fans have turned to mass-producing their creations. These range from model kits of the Quintessons to fully transformable model kits of Wheelie and Cyclonus and "upgrade" kits to add extra parts to Classics Cliffjumper and Ultra Magnus. As these are not officially licensed Hasbro/Takara product, they are generally beyond the purview of this Wiki, so we'll just leave it at "Yes, we know they exist and yes, they're neat." '' --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:12, 5 November 2012 (EST)
::"ex-canon, illegal toys"? Pffttt- whatever. Get your panties out of a twist and look at the situation realistically. They're unlicensed, copyright-infringing adult collectibles aimed at hardcore TF fans. Which, surprise surprise, happens to be the core audience here. A huge number of hardcore TF fans have at least one of them, and only their high cost is keeping them from even greater popularity. The two Devastator redesigns, the upcoming Superion redesign and Omega Supreme are all drawing news and excitement. Half the news on TF fan sites is coming from the 3rd party area. Whether you dislike them or not, they are there and a major and growing part of the fandom. The stance as copied on the [[Customizing]] article was fine for its time, but woefully outdated. We're way beyond extra guns for Classics Bumblebee or a bigger sword for God Magnus here. [[User:Hagetaka|Hagetaka]] 19:47, 5 November 2012 (EST)
:::The news coverage doesn't mean squat. They still remain unlicensed product and beyond the purview of this Wiki, and that has ''always'' been the stance. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:50, 5 November 2012 (EST)

:::"'''Supreme Battle Truck Leader X15-A''' is an unofficial Transformer that looks kind of like [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]." There's the entire article for a knockoff. The wikia could use an edge, why not try to convince '''them''' to document 3rd party stuff?--[[User:Carrion|Carrion]] 20:24, 5 November 2012 (EST)
::::"Look at the situation realistically." Okay. Realistically, Transformers is an entertainment franchise owned by Hasbro and TakaraTomy. These two companies license out some portions of the production of this franchise to other companies. As these 3rd party companies are not Hasbro, TakaraTomy or a licensee of Hasbro or TakaraTomy, their products are not actually Transformers. As they are not TFs and have not been featured in fiction alongside TFs, they are not something we cover. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:46, 6 November 2012 (EST)
:::Actually, I've got a side question. To my understanding, one of the reasons that these third party groups aren't already burned to ashes is that Hasbro is "unaware of that knock-off". Since Hasbro employees edit this wiki, wouldn't coverage of knock-offs remove that excuse and ''force'' Hasbro to come down upon the third party groups Like The Hammer Of Thor?
::::I mean, if I'm not out of my gourd here, wouldn't wiki coverage of the third party knockoffs be the ''last'' thing their fans and manufacturers would want?[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 10:21, 6 November 2012 (EST)

== Third party article ==

Obnoxious user up there does have a point: 3rd party toys have become a major phenomena in the fandom. We should have an article to address it - it could closely parallel this one in structure and content. - [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 23:54, 2 February 2013 (EST)
:i was on the verge of creating the article myself ([[third party toys]]? [[3rd party merchandise]]?) & linking it to [[knockoff]] & [[customizing]] when i thought first i should check those articles & talk pages. Glad i did. When i'm more awake, would someone show me how to make a whatchamacallit, Sandstorm? sandbox? Here's a rough draft of what i was thinking:
::Some Transformers [[fandom|fans]], desiring greater [[show-accuracy]] and [[articulation]] than [[Hasbro|official]] [[TakaraTomy|products]] provide, have [[to sell toys|set themselves up]] as third party toymakers. For Hasbro's response to these third parties, see [[Hasbro Q&A/May 2009]], particularly [[Hasbro_Q%26A/May_2009#TFW2005|here]] and [[Hasbro_Q%26A/May_2009#Transformers_Collectors.27_Club|here]]. Note, however, that at least one third party figure has been [[canonizing|canonized]]: a JizaiToys design used as the title character in [[Spotlight: Wheelie]]. See also: [[customizing]], [[knockoff]]
:--[[User:Rhymus|Rhymus]] ([[User talk:Rhymus|talk]]) 04:40, 29 September 2014 (EDT)
::If we're going to discuss it here, it needs to be sufficiently vague. Also, I believe the JizaiToys designs in particular were sold legally at one of the Japanese conventions - someone who knows more about it can fill in the blanks, but at certain Japanese cons, there's a sort of "one day license" that makes your otherwise third-party product temporarily authorized. So that's a grey-ish area. Also, IIRC, an MTMTE cover used a third party Gears and Huffer as art references at some point. I think that's already been documented. IN OTHER WORDS: there probably oughta be some kind of article on the concept, referencing some specific examples where they've been used in official materials as reference models, etc., but largely remaining at arm's length. Certainly no articles on specific products, and I'd even be disinclined to mention specific products outside of the most absolutely necessary - like how the very first known 3P accessory was a fusion cannon for AM Megatron, sold under one of those one-day licenses at a Japanese convention (anyone else remember these? Someone had a few at the early ''early'' BotCons...) [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 07:23, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

== Possible addition of knockoff entertainment? ==

Does anyone else think we should have a small section dedicated to animated films that are infamous for ripping off the designs of Transformers/Diaclone/Microman/Go-bots toys? I've heard of a few, like "Diatron 5" and "Phoenix King" and I think it might be worth mentioning that the transformers toys aren't the only things being illegally ripped off by dubious companies.

==What ISN'T a knockoff?==
I feel like we probably need a bit here about Con-Ver-Tors, which while they were "bootleg" in the sense that they weren't official Transformers product, were actually made using licensed molds from ...Bandai, IIRC. [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] ([[User talk:Hooper X|talk]]) 09:19, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

== Fansproject ==

I oftently heard of Fansproject. Their toys look really simillar to the original and are quite expensive. Do they count as KO companies or fan-made customs?