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Talk:Transformers (2023) issue 24

2025-09-12T12:18:25Z

Phantom:

== Are we positive Ulchtar shot himself? ==

I was under the impression that it was Megatron, finally fed up with his disobedience. The art seems ambiguous. [[User:Cylasbreakdown|Cylasbreakdown]] ([[User talk:Cylasbreakdown|talk]]) 12:06, 11 September 2025 (EDT)
:Megatron reacts in shock, so he clearly didn't expect Starscream to do that. [[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] ([[User talk:Nu-Priest|talk]]) 13:58, 11 September 2025 (EDT)

== Brawl MIA? ==

Not if this is note worthy but they make repeated points of showing Bruticus is missing his left leg, I'm pretty sure Brawl or his body (If dead) is never shown on panel. [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 08:18, 12 September 2025 (EDT)

Talk:Transformers (2023) issue 20

2025-05-14T16:17:58Z

Phantom: Created page with "I don't think that's Skywarp, That's Thundercracker hinding behind Teletraan right? I'm sure of it. ~~~~"

I don't think that's Skywarp, That's Thundercracker hinding behind Teletraan right? I'm sure of it. [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 12:17, 14 May 2025 (EDT)

Talk:The World In Your Eyes Part Two

2019-03-27T20:20:05Z

Phantom: Created page with "So I'm pretty sure that's Flywheels/Skytread in the crowd at the Ascenticon rally. ~~~~"

So I'm pretty sure that's Flywheels/Skytread in the crowd at the Ascenticon rally. [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 16:20, 27 March 2019 (EDT)

User:Phantom

2018-11-29T11:52:50Z

Phantom:

I was the one who saw:

*Warpath was drawn as his Generations toy in RID#4.

*Sky Lynx can fit inside Maccadam's Old Oil House in RID#5.

*Fixit is not a Micromaster in IDW

*Jetstorm never said "Now"

*Spotlight: Trailcutter was being made.

*Starscream has his War for Cybertron body in Spotlight: Bumblebee

*In the Story So Far section of MTMTE#15 Decepticon is misspelt Deceoticon.

*That what happen in Spotlight: Thundercracker was not updated on Barrage's page.

*That what happen in Spotlight: Thundercracker was not updated on Venom's page.

*That what happen in Spotlight: Thundercracker was not updated on Chop Shop's page.

*That what happen in Spotlight: Thundercracker was not updated on Blitzwing's page.

*That IDW comics had not been added to the Schedule. (04/04/13)

*Rung has a model Starhopper in MTMTE#28.

*That the UK gets Evolution 2-Pack Dinobot Strafe & Evolution 2-Pack Dinobot Slug.

*Mirage fires his shoulder launcher in Masquerade.

*That when Thrust transforms to rescue Ramjet, it's actually Dirge's animation model with Thrust's deco (The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1)

*That Starscream IS shown to be infected (Cosmic Rust (episode))

Cosmic Rust (episode)

2018-11-29T11:48:38Z

Phantom: /* Continuity errors */ Starscream IS shown to be infected!!! IT'S BEEN OVER 30 YEARS PEOPLE!!! TRY WATCHING THE EPISODE!!! ~~~~

{{disambig3|Cosmic Rust}}
{{episode
|image=Rusted megatron.jpg
|caption=Please don't ask, dude... Please don't ask.
|series=G1toon
|ep=61
|series2=SRLFtoon
|ep2=48
|prev2=Trans-Europe Express
|next2=The Core
|series3=''[[Transformers: Generation 2 (cartoon)|Transformers: Generation 2]]''
|ep3=46
|prev3=Aerial Assault
|next3=Megatron's Master Plan, Part 1
|title="Cosmic Rust"
|written by=[[Paul Davids]]
|production code=700-60
|airdate=[[December 26]], 1985
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|animation studio=[[Toei]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}
'''After finding a new weapon, Megatron becomes infected with a strange disease... one he intends to use against the Autobots.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Cosmic Rust Megatron infected.JPG|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Megatron brilliantly blows up an asteroid which ''showers'' poor Astrotrain with fragments, then has the nerve to moan and groan when one little fragment - ''which had to pass through Astrotrain to get there'' - hits him.]]
While flying through space in [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]], [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]], [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]], and [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] discover a [[Antilla|planet]] with the Autobot [[Insignia|symbol]] visible from orbit. Heading to investigate, they find a deserted city and a pillar inscribed with [[Cybertronian language#The Transformers cartoon|Ancient Autobot]]. Activating a recorded message, they are warned to leave, or never return to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]]... all in rhyme. Disregarding the warnings, the [[Decepticon]]s discover a [[Lightning Bug]]. While attempting to move it, they set it off, causing the ceiling above them to be destroyed. Megatron is pleased—the Autobots have created a weapon that will allow him to destroy them. While leaving the planet, an asteroid follows Astrotrain (look, just go with the flow) and Megatron destroys it. Bad idea, as the debris penetrates Astrotrain, with one piece hitting Megatron in the shoulder. Heading for their [[Decepticon Headquarters (G1 Earth)|their base]], Starscream removes the rock, only to discover that Megatron's shoulder is covered in ruuusttt.

In [[New York City]], [[Perceptor (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Perceptor]] is being awarded for his creation of [[corrostop]], a new solution which prevents rust and corrosion. The Autobots plan to spray all the world's monuments with it, but for the moment, they only have enough to spray the [[Statue of Liberty]]. Meanwhile, Megatron's health is deteriorating rapidly, and he orders the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] to bring him Perceptor. Heading for Liberty Island, the Decepticons capture Perceptor and load him into [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]], with the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] in pursuit. The Autobot jets follow the kidnappers all the way to the Decepticon base, but the [[Conehead]]s use the Lightning Bug to drive them off.

Taken within their base, Perceptor is horrified to discover that Megatron is covered in rust. The Decepticon leader offers Perceptor a chance to end the [[Great War (G1)|war]] in exchange for curing him. As Perceptor analyzes the Decepticon, he discovers that Megatron is infected with a metallic plague and that the lightning bug is exacerbating the condition. Perceptor offers Megatron corrostop, which manages to wash the rust away. Megatron declares that the Decepticons are about to be cured.

[[File:Kentucky fried aerialbot.jpg|thumb|Kentucky Fried Aerialbot.]]
At the [[Ark (G1)|Autobot base]], the Aerialbots are explaining what happened to [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], when Megatron contacts the Autobot leader. Megatron says that Prime has until noon to reach Perceptor, or sunlight focused through his lens will ignite the fuse on a bomb and blow him to pieces. Despite knowing it's a trap, Prime takes all the Autobots with him to [[Fox Creek Canyon]] to rescue Perceptor. As the Autobots arrive, Perceptor warns them to keep away, but Prime pulls Perceptor away once the bomb ignites and explodes, only for Perceptor to reveal that he is infected with [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|Cosmic Rust]].

[[File:Cosmic Rust Perceptor kick.JPG|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Fonzie would be proud.]]
Returning to the base, the Autobots query [[Teletraan I]], who tells them of the fate of [[Antilla]], the world the Decepticons visited. Then, the Autobots notice that they're infected with Cosmic Rust as well. Worse, Megatron is using the Lightning Bug to make the plague spread. Their only hope is corrostop, but [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] and [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] have discovered that [[Ingredient X]], an important ingredient for making corrostop, is gone. [[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]] suspects that they can use the matter duplicator to make more, if he and Perceptor can fix it. Meanwhile, [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] does his best to stem the tide, but they're fading fast. Megatron is watching via [[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]], loving every minute of it, only to learn that the matter duplicator now works, thanks to a little percussive maintenance, provided by Perceptor. All they need is some corrostop from the Statue of Liberty to replicate.

[[File:Cosmic Rust Autobots Statue of Liberty.JPG|upright=1.1|thumb|"You maniacs! You blew it up!"]]
Heading to the Statue of Liberty, Megatron orders the Stunticons to form [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] and use the Lightning Bug to destroy the statue. However, the Autobots are already there, and the Aerialbots form [[Superion (G1)|Superion]]. The Autobot [[combiner]] is able to defeat [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] and destroy the Lightning Bug. Megatron, out of ideas, orders a retreat. [[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] is quite pleased: they not only saved themselves, but also Lady Liberty.
{{--}}

==Featured characters==
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*Ancient rhyming Autobot (5)
*[[Perceptor (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Perceptor]] (7)
*[[Air Raid (G1)|Air Raid]] (11)
*[[Skydive (G1 Aerialbot)|Skydive]] (12)
*[[Fireflight (G1)|Fireflight]] (13)
*[[Slingshot (G1)|Slingshot]] (14)
*[[Silverbolt (G1)|Silverbolt]] (15)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (16)
*[[Mirage (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Mirage]] (17)
*[[Wheeljack (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Wheeljack]] (18)
*[[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] (19)
*[[Ratchet (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ratchet]] (20)
*[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] (21)
*[[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] (22)
*[[Bumblebee (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Bumblebee]] (23)
*[[Gears (G1)|Gears]] (24)
*[[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] (34)
*[[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] (35)
*[[Inferno (G1)|Inferno]] (36)
*[[Powerglide (G1)|Powerglide]] (37)
*[[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] (38)
*[[Hound (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hound]] (39)
*[[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] (40)
*[[Beachcomber (G1)|Beachcomber]] (41)
*[[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (42)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (43)
*[[Sideswipe (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sideswipe]] (44)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Sunstreaker]] (45)
*[[Prowl (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prowl]] (46)
*[[Superion (G1)|Superion]] (50)
}}
|c2=
*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (1)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (2)
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (3)
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (4)
*[[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] (25)
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] (26)
*[[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (27)
*[[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]] (29)
*[[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] (30)
*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (31)
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (32)
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (33)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (47)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Laserbeak]] (48)
*[[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]] (49)
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*[[National Scientific Achievement]] meeting emcee (6)
*[[Spike Witwicky (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Spike Witwicky]] (8)
*[[Carly]] (9)
*[[Sparkplug Witwicky]] (10)
*Female television reporter (28)
}}

==Quotes==
"Starscream! Keep your grubby fingers off that. It could be a booby trap!" 
"What trap? This is a prehistoric communication device, you uneducated dolt!"
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Starscream''', doing what they do best.

"Where there's a curse on the door, there's treasure on the other side."
:—'''Starscream''', who has never seen an Indiana Jones movie.

[[File:G1 cartoon lightning bug.JPG|thumb|upright=1.1]]
"If that's a lightning bug, I'd sure hate to meet up with a dragonfly."
:—'''Astrotrain''' hates big bugs (nearly his size) and he cannot lie.

"Unfortunately, the operation is successful."
:—'''Starscream''' bemoans removing an infected meteor fragment from Megatron.

"It's some weird kind of heat ray—and it ''works''!"
:—'''Silverbolt''' expresses not-unjustified amazement at the efficiency of the Decepticons' weapon-of-the-day.

"This is not our agreement! Cure me! Cure me now! ''[Megatron's hand falls off]'' ''Now'' look what you've done!!"
:—'''Megatron''', bawling like a toddler

"Why not use it at full power, and melt Autobot Headquarters to the ground?" 
"I don't want to melt them, Rumble. I want to let them suffer. Slowly..."
:—'''Rumble''' and the ever-classy '''Megatron'''

"Somebody's gotta get us back to Cybertron, Prime. I never thought the end would come like this."
:—'''Bumblebee''', dying from Cosmic Rust and apparently wanting to destroy his home planet.

"The Cosmic Rust has infiltrated your logic circuits." 
"Maybe so, but I'll bet it hasn't affected my aim."
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Optimus Prime'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
[[File:CosmicRust Spike Carly Sparkplug at awards.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*Gadgets and powers:
**Starscream demonstrates the ability to retract his hand and replace it with a pincer, which he uses to remove the meteor fragment lodged in Megatron.
*With Astrotrain out of commission, Blitzwing takes over his role as a generic transport guy. He's shown as big enough for the Stunticons and Perceptor to just walk right into. (Outside of this episode, Blitzwing is never shown as being transport-sized the way Astrotrain is. Continuity error or little-used ability?)
*Megatron coughs while infected with Cosmic Rust, despite [[Humanization|not having lungs]].
*Fox Creek Canyon is said to be "just three miles from [Autobot] headquarters". The real Fox Creek Canyon is in Idaho near the Wyoming border. This would seem to contradict the Autobot HQ being in Oregon or at Mt. St. Helens.
*Spike, Carly and Sparkplug are briefly shown in the audience, all in different clothes than their usual character models. Sparkplug is once again in a dapper blue suit - and it's actually a different design from the one he wore in "[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1]]".
*The Statue of Liberty is made of copper; naturally a brown metal, it turns green when it rusts (or 'patinates'), hence the Statue's distinctive color. As corrostop gets rid of rust and prevents weathering, one wonders why the Autobots were allowed to test it on the Statue of Liberty given that, by doing so, they would be altering the colour of one of the most distinctive landmarks in the world.

===Real-world references===
[[File:CosmicRust National Scientific Achievement.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*Perceptor compares Cosmic Rust to the Black Plague.
*Teletraan I calls the fallen Autobot civilization the "13th Legion—the Lost Legion". This could be a reference to the {{w|Legio IX Hispana|Ninth Legion}}, also known as "The Lost Legion".
*Writer Paul Davids mentioned that the idea of a plague spreading amongst the Transformers was inspired in part by the AIDS crisis of the 1980s.<ref>http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/60-astrominutes/paul-davids/paul-davids-2.html</ref>
*Behind Perceptor at the National Scientific Achievement award can be seen posters of [[Tokyo Tower]], the [[Washington Monument]], [[CJ Seoul Tower]], the British houses of parliament & [[Elizabeth Tower]], and the [[Eiffel Tower]], but oddly enough not the Statue of Liberty.
*The real-world Statue of Liberty was {{w|Conservation-restoration of the Statue of Liberty|under renovation}} at the time of this episode's production.
*''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects:
**Truncated ''[[Millennium Falcon]]'' engine in the opening shot as Astrotrain flies past, and again as he lands on the planet... and several more times as he leave the planet later on. And still again as Blitzwing takes off with Perceptor.
**Multiple [[lightsaber]] ignitions as the holographic warning activates.

===Animation and technical errors===
*Megatron and co. are illuminated by the holographic beam before it actually activates.
*At one point, the holographic warning bot's arms reach outside of range of the ancient projector.
*Coloring errors:
**After the hologram fades out, Astrotrain's helmet is gray, then the correct purple in a closeup shot, then back to gray when the previous wide angle shot is recycled. In the wide angle shot, Megatron's waist is rather too large, and Rumble's visor is a bit too big as well.
**In the same shot, Skydive is missing most of his dark gray coloration.
**In the shot that pans over the Autobots spraying down the Statue of Liberty, Gears is colored as Rumble - complete with his yellow leg detailing.
**Silverbolt's cockpit windows aren't colored in as the Aerialbots retreat, and he's rather misshapen in general.
**"Welcome, Perceptor" - Megatron's waist is the same light gray as the rest of him, rather than its correct dark gray.
**Laserbeak is a plain white box when Soundwave pulls him out of his chest.
**As Megatron tells Prime that "the cosmic rust has infiltrated your logic circuits," the triangular shapes on his forehead are colored in reverse (they should be black on light gray but are white on dark gray).
**Perceptor has some light gray parts on his helmet as Prime pats him on the shoulder.
*Thanks to a layering error, Rumble "helps" Starscream with the lightning bug by pulling on Starscream's ''knee''!
*In the very next shot, Starscream is behind the lightning bug instead of to its left.
*Megatron's chest wound is clearly clean when Starscream pulls the fragment free. When Megatron notices the rust a second later, the wound is ''covered'' with it, in a way that should have been visible in the previous shots.
*The top of Perceptor's nose disappears during the last shot of him at the science conference.
*As the Aerialbots land, the other Autobots are oddly layered - so that Prime appears to be 3-4 times Mirage's height, while Wheeljack is barely half as tall as Mirage.
[[File:RustproofingLadyLiberty CosmicRust.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*As well as being consistently miscoloured as silver, the Statue of Liberty is pretty poorly drawn in many shots. It even nearly has a hunchback at one point early on in the episode.
[[File:Cosmicrust taking over this boat.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Surprise! We weren't here 10 frames ago!]]
*Only Motormaster is shown in the first shot of the ferry, surrounded by normal cars; however, when he transforms in the next shot, Breakdown and Dead End are right next to him.
*Drag Strip gets the Autobot laser sound effect when he opens fire on Perceptor.
*"You've got an appointment with Megatron" - Dead End is missing the line in the middle of his mouthplate.
*Some layering issues make some of the Aerialbots briefly appear ''huge'' as they chase Blitzwing through the city.
*Silverbolt orders the Aerialbots to "duck" to avoid the lightning bug's beam. Note that they're flying at the time!
*When Air Raid is hit, he cries out in Silverbolt's voice.
*When Megatron's left hand falls to pieces from the rust infection, his fusion cannon is attached to his upper arm instead of its usual place on his forearm.
*When Megatron's left hand falls off to his right hand, the fallen hand disappears for one second.
*As Optimus speaks to Megatron over the viewscreen, his chest windows are flush with his torso, rather than being recessed.
[[File:CosmicRust-BigGroup.jpg|thumb|upright=2.8|There's surprisingly few glitches in this shot.]]
*When Optimus Prime addresses the Autobots before getting them to roll out, Prowl - situated at the end of the line - appears to be a ''tad'' wider than normal.
*When he transforms to roll for Fox Creek Canyon, the side of Optimus' cab is white. When Inferno drives past in the same shot, he's missing his ladder.
*After arriving at the canyon to rescue Perceptor, Optimus transforms to [[robot mode]], but he has ''no feet''! They weren't drawn because they should be obscured by the cliff edge, but Prime is placed slightly too high so his legs just fade out at the bottom. His head is completely misdrawn in the same shot after he turns to look at the other Autobots. And he gets the wrong transformation sound - descending pitch - when he transforms to robot mode.
*Wheeljack's ears don't flash as he activates Teletraan, nor again as he asks about any possible cures.
*When Prime, Wheeljack and Blaster are shown watching the clip about Cosmic Rust, Wheeljack and Blaster have Cosmic Rust on them. But in the next several shots, Prime and Wheeljack's infections have disappeared. Wheeljack still isn't infected when he works with Perceptor on the Matter Duplicator.
*When Prime notes that Teletraan I is infected, he's in front of a panel with a huge, striped, horizontal display area that looks nothing like what's on Teletraan I's main console.
*Prime somehow sees the infection on his hand even though the side facing him is unaffected.
*In a close shot of Perceptor and Wheeljack working on the Matter Duplicator, Perceptor has extra lines on his face that make him look like an old man.
*Appearing/disappearing Autobots:
**Jazz and Mirage appear at the end of the episode despite not being part of the last battle (and not showing up throughout the episode, though Mirage ''is'' seen for a second during the drive to the canyon).
*Improbable viewpoints:
**Laserbeak's footage from inside Autobot HQ jumps from an overhead room shot of the infected Autobots, to a closeup front view of Perceptor, and back.
*In the shot of the Stunticons on their ferry, Wildrider's legs are entirely red instead of gray, and his arms are missing their red bits.
*When Prime falls off the Statue of Liberty's head, there's no sign of the infection on him.
*A few shots later, we see the Autobots shooting at the Decepticons from the top of the statue, and there's a robot beneath Prime who has the upper body of Prime (complete with dual windows) and the lower body of Sideswipe. Later, we see that this is supposed to be Ironhide.
*The voice that orders the Aerialbots to attack isn't Silverbolt. It doesn't really match any of the other Aerialbots, either.
[[File:CosmicRust Menasor holds aloft bug.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1]]
*Menasor rather blatantly uses the "cars attached to Motormaster's arms" model for most of this episode, but a few detail shots show his hands directly attached to Drag Strip and Dead End.
*When Menasor is attacked by the Aerialbots, snippets of Astrotrain's voice (from when he is damaged by the asteroid) are used instead of Menasor's normal voice.
*Immediately following this, the dialogue of Silverbolt's instruction to form Superion is clipped at the beginning, as if it was the end of a longer sentence that was trimmed. Silverbolt's order to combine continues, in his voice, well after the combination is complete.
*Superion gets the Decepticon laser sound effect when he shoots Menasor.
*Menasor has an Autobot symbol when Superion throws him (an error repeated in "[[Masquerade]]", possibly related to an earlier character model that had the Stunticons as Autobots.)
*Again, a short shot of four Autobots on the statue shows none of them infected at all; they're also much bigger relative to the statue than they were a few shots back.
*Wheeljack's ears don't flash, and Ratchet's mouth doesn't move, during their cheering at the episode's end.

===Continuity errors===
*The meteor which infects everybody makes no sense at all. It just jumps out of line to start chasing Astrotrain through space, and comes with its own energy sound effect.
*Astrotrain, who got damaged a lot more by the infectious meteor than Megatron (See second picture above), is never shown to be infected. Although Starscream's statement that the repair team would get to Megatron ''after'' they work on Astrotrain may imply that the rust infection did work its magic on Astrotrain, even if the finished episode fails to mention it.
*For some reason, Megatron would rather trust Starscream to give him medical attention than, say, ''[[Hook (G1)|anyone]] [[Bombshell (G1)|else]] [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|on]] [[Constructicon (G1)|base]]''.
[[File:CosmicRust Wildrider speedboat.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|Megatron came up with this scheme, didn't he?]]
*The Stunticons go through some rather elaborate measures to capture Perceptor: first hijacking a car ferry, followed by Drag Strip ''water skiing'' behind a motorboat driven by Wildrider, all so that Drag Strip can chase Perceptor a few steps closer to the water, so that Motormaster can throw a chain around Perceptor, pull him into the water, then drag him ''back'' to dry land where Blitzwing is sitting around waiting. W. T. F. Why didn't they just ''fly''?
*The Aerialbots chase Blitzwing all the way back to base, but they don't make any effort to actually stop him. Or was the idea supposed to be that they couldn't catch him? That make even less sense, as all six Transformers would have to have exactly the same top speed.
[[File:Corrostop CosmicRust.jpg|thumb|upright=1.1|OK, I'm gonna hand things off to Perceptor now. When it comes to curing Cosmic Rust, he wrote the manual! Now, now, Megatron, let's not go pointing fingers at anybody.]]
*Megatron's right hand falls off (wires and all). Perceptor drips some corrostop onto it and puts it back on his arm, and it works again immediately. Shouldn't there be some welding involved? Besides which, if the rust got inside him, shouldn't he have to be immersed in corrostop, inside and out?
**And on that note, how did Megatron get enough of the corrostop to cure himself (and presumably Astrotrain and others?) Perceptor only hands him one little vial, half of which goes toward treating Megatron's hand.
*The lightning bug doesn't have any way to ''aim''. Somehow it still hits all its targets.
*It's a bit silly that the Aerialbots' wings are ''still'' smoldering after flying all the way back to base.
*[[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]] is able to determine for certain that there is no more [[Ingredient X]] in the universe. Yet throughout seasons 2 and 3, it is determined that the Transformers are unable to tell whether and where other rare and important chemicals exist, [[The Golden Lagoon (episode)|even when they are on Earth]], and that they are constantly discovering [[Paradron|new planets]] which they had [[Quintessa (planet)|never]] [[Junkion (planet)|seen]] [[Unicron|before]].
[[File:Cosmicrust prime and perceptor.jpg|upright=1.1|thumb|Seriously, wrap him in a blanket or something.]]
*Couldn't Prime have moved the explosives away from the infected and very contagious Perceptor, rather than vice versa? Though the Cosmic Rust seems capable of spreading through the air, Prime could at least ''try'' not to get infected. Furthermore, back at base, the Autobots make no effort to quarantine Perceptor or Prime, despite Perceptor knowing how easily the disease spreads - and sure enough, all the Autobots are infected in no time flat.
*According to Teletraan I, the "Lost Legion" of Autobots had already colonized Antilla ''at [[MSTF|the dawn of time]]''. That's a pretty ambitious timetable!
*"Then, dreaded asteroids began falling from the sky to spread cosmic rust." Yeah.
*Why does Bumblebee (as quoted above) want to go back to Cybertron? Doing so could infect the whole planet!
*Apparently, the Decepticons' entire hope of victory relied on Menasor being able to destroy the Statue of Liberty with the Lightning Bug, and not Menasor's own tendency to smash everything he looks at.
*Speaking of the statue, the Decepticons shoot at it for several minutes (plus the Autobots climb all over it and Optimus hangs off her crown) but it doesn't get a scratch on it. That corrostop must be some powerful stuff!
*Perceptor didn't keep a ''single drop'' of corrostop? Not even a laboratory sample? Not even inside the tanks of the spray hoses used to coat the Statue of Liberty?
*Despite its seemingly great potential for all sorts of useful purposes (or mischief, as the Decepticons are well aware of its existence), the Matter Duplicator is never seen again.
*One wonders if the reason that the Decepticons haven't yet won the war is that Megatron himself is a huge crybaby. One little chunk of asteroid embedded in his shoulder has him throwing a fit about how terribly wounded he is. Not to mention when his Lightning Bug gets ruined, he orders a retreat despite the Autobots currently being weakened by Cosmic Rust.

===Trivia===
*This episode was originally going to be the Generation 1 cartoon's first attempt to introduce the [[Matrix of Leadership|Matrix]] into its continuity, ''before'' ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''! In the finished episode, Starscream merely laments that none of the Decepticons can read "[[Cybertronian language|Ancient Autobot]]". In the script, however, Megatron ''can'' read the language, and translates it, discovering that the Thirteenth Legion came to Antilla during "the first millennium after the creation of the Autobot Matrix". Starscream dates this to five hundred thousand years before they left for Earth (which is to say, 4.5 million years ago). This, of course, would conflict greatly with what we would go on to learn of the Matrix when it was properly introduced, and, indeed, is not even internally consistent with the rest of the script itself, which claims (pretty stupidly) that the legion has been on Antilla since the "dawn of time".

===Foreign localization===
'''Italian'''
:*''Title (dub 1):'' "'''La peste metallica'''" ("The Metallic Plague")
:*''Title (dub 2):'' "'''Ruggine cosmica'''" ("Cosmic Rust")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Kyōfu no Cosmic Rust!'''" (恐怖のコスミックルスト!, "The Terrifying Cosmic Rust!")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[June 13]], [[1986]]

'''Mandarin'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Yǔzhòu Xiùbìng '''" (宇宙锈病, "Cosmic Rust")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Russian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Cosmicheskaya rzhavchina'''" (Космическая ржавчина, "Cosmic Rust")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1990 — ''Transformers'' — Cosmic Rust / Masquerade ([[Tempo Video]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1991 — ''Transformers'' — Headmasters / The Return of Optimus Prime / Cosmic Rust (Tempo Video) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2001 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Exclusively from Blockbuster ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])
;{{w|LaserDisc}}
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1995 — ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' — Megatron Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers'' — Decepticon Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers'' — DVD Box 2 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2: Vol. 7 (Rhino Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 3: Series 2.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Volume 06: Stagione Due Parte Quarta ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season Two: Part Two (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Season Two, Volume Two: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2011 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Original Series (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2014 — ''The Transformers'' — Season Two, Volume Two: 30th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2014 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Animated Series (Metrodome)

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/season-2/synopses/700-60.html Episode Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]

[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]
[[Category:Generation 2 episodes]]
[[Category:MSTF]]

User:Phantom

2018-11-18T14:18:28Z

Phantom:

The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1

2018-11-18T14:09:30Z

Phantom: /* Animation and technical errors */ Come on people ~~~~

{{episode
|image=Stunticons.jpg
|caption=Megatron's latest addition to his troops. He's really going to regret this one...
|series=G1toon
|ep=56
|series2=SRLFtoon
|ep2=42
|prev2=The Search for Alpha Trion
|next2=The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2
|title="The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 1"
|written by=[[David Wise]]
|production code=700-55
|airdate=[[November 25]], 1985
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|animation studio=[[Toei]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''After being beaten by the Autobots once again, Megatron hatches a plan to create a team of Decepticons that will give him supremacy over the roads.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:KeyVectorSigma1 Rumble carjack.JPG|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Rumble makes an excellent carjacker. Why are we not surprised?]]

The [[Autobot]]s are escorting a convoy of tankers which carry a new [[superfuel]] which the government has given to the Autobots. Things have been quiet so far, but [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] is wary. [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] thinks that the [[Decepticon]]s are unaware of the superfuel, when they take that moment to attack. [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] sends the [[Conehead]]s to attack, but they are unable to follow them into the tunnels and canyons on the road. Megatron himself decides to destroy the superfuel, but [[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] manages to distract him, while Optimus and Prowl drive Megatron off.

Megatron is furious that the Autobots beat them, and decides to rectify the situation. [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is sent to steal cars of various models, and [[Possum Brown]]'s truck, all of which Megatron alters with Decepticon technology, such as anti-gravity boosters and automatic [[force field]]s. Using a remote control, Megatron tests the cars' abilities. Rumble is amazed with their stunt driving, and Megatron decides that it's a good name. Bringing them about, he has them [[Transformation|transform]] into [[robot mode]], and dubs them the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]].

[[File:KeyVectorSigma1 Alpha wall.JPG|right|upright=1.1|thumb|"I'm not quite dead."]]

Learning that the Decepticons are making new soldiers, Prime realizes they'll need Cybernetic personalities to truly live, and there is only one way to do that. [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] takes a group of Autobots to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], where Megatron is informed by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] that he has located [[Vector Sigma]], the megacomputer that gave the [[Transformer]]s life. But they will require the [[Key to Vector Sigma|circuit key]] to activate it. The Key is in the possession of [[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]], and the Decepticons head for [[Alpha Trion's base‎|his lab]]. After a brief struggle, [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] locates the Key and gives it to Megatron.

Arriving on Cybertron, the Autobots hurry to Alpha Trion's lab, only to find a dying Alpha Trion. [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] and [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] are able to save his life, and he explains to Optimus what Megatron intends to do. The Autobots head into the tunnels for Vector Sigma.

[[File:Centurions.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|We came, we saw, we kicked some ass.]]

In the tunnels, the Decepticons encounter [[Centurion droid]]s, which Megatron discovers he can control with the Key, and instructs them to attack the Autobots. The Autobots encounter the drones and, unable to destroy their attackers, retreat to a derelict hangar. Heading to Vector Sigma, Megatron activates the super computer, which gives [[Spark|life]] to the Stunticons: [[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]], [[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]], [[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]], [[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]], and [[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]]. The Decepticons return to Earth, where the Stunticons are set loose on human roads.

[[File:KeyVectorSigma1 Wildrider fly.JPG|right|upright=1.1|thumb|This isn't gonna end well.]]
In the hangar, Ratchet and Wheeljack set about repairing the damaged [[maintenance drone]]s which are scattered around, sending them out to fight the Centurions, with little success. Finally a column of maintenance drones marches off a cliff, and the Centurion drones blindly follow them. The Autobots reach Vector Sigma, learning that it already gave the Stunticons life. Optimus plans to use a series of ancient rockets and have them rebuilt as Earth style jets, planning to fight the Decepticons in the air.

At a human base, the Stunticons arrive attempting to make another attempt to steal the superfuel, and the soldiers believe they're being attacked by the Autobots.

[[The Key to Vector Sigma, Part 2|To be continued...]]
{{-}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]] (1)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (2)
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (3)
*[[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] (4)
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (20)
*[[Ironhide (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Ironhide]] (22)
*[[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]] (23)
*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] (24)
*[[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Blaster]] (25)
*[[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] (26)
*[[Alpha Trion (G1)|Alpha Trion]] (27)

|c2=
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (5)
*[[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]] (6)
*[[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] (7)
*[[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]] (8)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (9)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (10)
*[[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] (12)
*[[Dead End (G1)|Dead End]] (13)
*[[Motormaster (G1)|Motormaster]] (15)
*[[Wildrider (G1)|Wildrider]] (17)
*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] (18)
*[[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] (21)
*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (28)

|c3=
*Tanker drivers (2)
*Race commentator (11)
*Robbers (14)
*Truck driver (16)
*Soldiers (32)

|c4=
*[[Teletraan I]] (19)
*[[Centurion droid]]s (29)
*[[Vector Sigma]] (30)
*[[Maintenance drone]]s (31)
}}

==Quotes==
"So much for your security, Prowl."
:—'''Smokescreen''', as the Decepticons attack

"I knew I'd never make it."
:—'''Dirge''', accepting his lot in life.

"No, Megatron, you'll have to blow us all up, and frankly, I don't think you have the guts."
:—'''Optimus Prime''' goads Megatron to shoot at the super fuel.

"Annnnd Mueller takes it! ...What in the world?" 
"You mean ''Rumble'' takes it!"
:—'''Race track announcer''' and '''Rumble''', who proceeds quite literally to take it

"Incredible! Not even the Autobots can do that kind of stunt driving." 
"Stunt driving...yes! Behold—the ''Stunticons!''"
:—'''Rumble''' gives '''Megatron''' an inspiration.

"This can't be the way those Deceptigoons came." 
"On the contrary, it definitely is." 
"What makes you so sure?" 
"Because who else would have sent ''them'' to kill us?"
:—'''Ratchet''' and '''Alpha Trion''' as the Centurion droids approach

[[File:Vector sigma.jpg|right|thumb|The early concept of the disco mirror ball, which the humans stole, millions of years later.]]
"I am Vector Sigma. Before Cybertron was, I was! Who reactivates me?"
:—'''Vector Sigma'''

'''Megatron''': I am Megatron, your leader. Declare yourselves to me. 
'''Motormaster''': I am Motormaster. I swear loyalty to you! 
'''Dead End''': I am Dead End. I guess I'll have to do what you say. 
'''Breakdown''': I'm... I'm Breakdown. I'll obey too. 
'''Drag Strip''': I am Drag Strip. I ''live'' to obey! 
'''Wildrider''': I'm Wildrider! And I wanna bust something up!
:—The '''Stunticons''' speak [[Introdump|their first words]].

"Big ''and'' stupid."
:—'''Blaster''' on the Centurion droids who, in their zealousness, ran off a cliff to chase the maintenance robots.

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
[[File:G1tf56-shuttleships.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.67]]
*In the scene where the Autobots walk through a chamber with lots of destroyed Transformers in it, there are two [[generic]]s in the foreground. The same character models previously appeared during the "[[Early war history records Transformers|historic footage]]" segment in "[[Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 2]]". The green and yellow generic retained his color scheme, whereas [[Internuncio|the blue one]] is now one solid shade of blue. The model will appear again in "[[The Burden Hardest to Bear]]", again in different colors.
*Gadgets and powers:
**Soundwave actually uses that gun on his shoulder while fighting the Centurion drones.
**Soundwave extends a lock-picking electrical widget from his fingertip.
**The newly-built Stunticons show off their ridiculously fancy driving abilities - they smash through trees, buildings and solid rock, they launch themselves into the air, spinning and flipping while doing so, and they make hairpin 180-degree turns.

===Real-world references===
*For robots that have never been exposed to human culture, the Centurion droids demonstrate surprising proficiency in pro-wrestling, performing moves such as the German Suplex, body slam, headlock and Irish Whip.
*''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects:
**[[TIE Fighter]] roar as the coneheads dive to attack the superfuel convoy.
**''[[Millennium Falcon]]'' engine roar as the coneheads follow them into the canyon.
**Truncated [[lightsaber]]-vs-seeker-ball as Megatron inserts the key.

===Animation and technical errors===
*Coloring errors:
**As Prime notes how quiet it's been, his headlights and bumper are red instead of white and gray.
**The back of Megatron's leg is colored blue during his "Thrust, Dirge, Ramjet, after them!" line; apparently the colorists thought it was part of the sky.
**Ramjet's wings are white instead of maroon as he emerges from the canyon.
**When Thrust transforms to rescue Ramjet, it's actually Dirge's animation model with Thrust's deco.
**"If it weren't for those accursed Autobots..." - Megatron's left arm is colored white instead of gray, and his forehead is missing its detailing.[[File:KeytoVectorSigmaPt1 stealing DragStrip.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
**Rumble's visor flashes between white and red when he steals the F1 car which will become Drag Strip. Oddly enough, it's stable red when the Autobots review the same sequence on Teletraan I later on!
**Blue eject button on Soundwave as Megatron prepares to test his newly upgraded cars.
***And again after he exists the space bridge.
**Omega Supreme's head is red instead of gray as he transforms to rocket mode outside Autobot Headquarters.
**Omega's visor is gray instead of clear as he reverts to [[robot mode]] on Cybertron.
**"Let's roll!" - the inside of Prime's cheekguard changes from gray to blue.
**As he dives into the Vector Sigma tunnel, Blaster's forehead changes from red to its correct white.
**As he watches Vector Sigma rise, Soundwave's cheekguards are blue instead of gray.
**As Megatron welcomes the Stunticons to Earth, his waist is light gray instead of its usual dark gray.
*The coneheads don't have the standard Decepticon laser noise as they dive to attack.
*When Ramjet crashes, he reverts to robot mode without the transformation sound.
*As the Autobots open fire on Megatron, they get a weird mix of Prime's laser noise and the standard Decepticon laser noise.
*One of the bank robbers, the getaway driver and the lorry driver are all wearing [[hard hat]]s; have Spike and Sparkplug started a fashion trend?
*As Rumble steals the semi truck, two of his shots start with Megatron's fusion cannon sound effect and end with the usual Decepticon laser effect.
*The establishing shot of Cybertorn is very different than the stock shot usually used on the show; it's a greatly simplied version of the planet, without all the giant holes and war damage (maybe it's just "the other side".) Still another version can be seen briefly as Omega Supreme flies toward the planet, much closer to the usual stock shot but still not the same model.
*The inside of the space bridge elevator continues glowing pink after the doors open.
*As the Autobots race towards Alpha Trion's lab, Omega Supreme actually clips through Blaster.
*"Good grief!" - the illumination of Wheeljack's "ears" doesn't quite line up with the ears themselves.
*In the first shot of their approach, the Centurion droids are walking in place rather than advancing.
*When the Centurion droids attack, Megatron's nose is colored dark gray.
*Soundwave's Decepticon insignia is missing as he avoids a Centurion's fist.
*After the Autobots leave the hanagar, Blaster's mouth is jumping up and down independently of his face.
*"Soon! Very soon." - Megatron's voice is missing its robotic processing.

===Continuity errors===
*The central premise of this episode—that bringing new Transformers to life requires the supercomputer Vector Sigma—is highly problematic in the context of.... well, every other episode before or since in which new Transformers are created:
**The [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] were simply built on Earth.
**The [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]], in their first episode, are likewise described as having been built on Earth (though that's [[Constructicon (G1)|a whole can of worms]] in itself.)
**Later episodes would likewise contradict it, showing [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] and the [[Technobot (G1)|Technobots]] being brought to life without Vector Sigma.
**Megatron emphatically declares that Vector Sigma gave ''all'' his contemporaries life, and introduces himself to the computer as "one of your own creations". In "[[Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4]]", Megatron is shown being built on a table by the evil Constructicons, with Vector Sigma nowhere in sight (the same Constructicons who would later be turned evil, and still later be built on Earth).
**"Five Faces of Darkness" also presents the Quintessons as the original creators of the Transformers. Vector Sigma was apparently involved, as Alpha Trion states that he was a first generation product of Vector Sigma, and he also led the Transformer rebellion against the Quintessons. It is possible that Vector Sigma was ''built'' by the Quintessons.
***Optimus ''sort of'' explains most of this by saying "There's no place on Earth to give them cybernetic personalities like we have", the "like we have" part perhaps insinuating that personalities from Earth would end up with low intelligence. For Trypticon and the Dinobots at least, this appears to be correct; the Technobots, meanwhile, were built by a temporarily super-intelligent Grimlock, using parts of Unicron, so... who knows.
*Why does Warpath drop out of the convoy? Why doesn't he return fire? Was he supposed to have been damaged by the first assault? If so, the animation doesn't show it.
[[File:Ktvs1 megs builds breakdown.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*Megatron apparently builds the Stunticons by himself. Where are the Constructicons, who were useful in creating the robotic cars in "[[Make Tracks]]"?
*Rather than launching an assault to commandeer the [[space bridge]] as they've previously done in "[[Divide and Conquer]]" (and [[The Revenge of Bruticus|will do again]]) to instantly transport themselves back home, Optimus Prime calls for Omega Supreme to fly them to Cybertron the long way. Naturally, this facilitates the Omega Supreme subplot which will ultimately result in the Aerialbots dropping their bad attitude, but it's still an odd choice considering the urgency of the situation.
[[File:KeyVectorSigma1 Trion's base interior.jpg|thumb|right|upright=1.1]]
*In "[[The Search for Alpha Trion]]", Alpha Trion was introduced as an enigmatic old Transformer hiding in an underground base. This episode ignores the brunt of that. For starters, [[Alpha Trion's base]] is no longer underground and doesn't appear to be secret anymore. Nor does Alpha Trion himself. For some reason, the Decepticons know that Alpha Trion still lives, that he has the Key to Vector Sigma and what the location of his laboratory is. Wheeljack makes the situation even more peculiar by remarking that Alpha Trion's base is messier than it's ever been, insinuating that he's been there before. On a sidenote, in "The Search for Alpha Trion", Alpha Trion's lab was neat and tidy.
*"It's a miracle we survived that blast" - see Trivia notes below for more on Prime's non sequitur line.
*Speaking of urgency - despite the repeated need for speed, the Autobots never use their [[alternate mode|vehicle mode]]s on Cybertron - not to hurry to Alpha Trion's lab, not to rush to the Vector Sigma tunnel, not to travel IN that tunnel, not to get away from the slow-moving Centurion droids...
*"Megatron's been battling us on the roads" - the Autobots haven't actually faced the Stunticons yet. Megatron took them directly to Cybertron after creating them.

===Trivia===
*According to episode writer [[David Wise]] at various conventions (such as [[BotCon 2009]]), he was instructed to include Vector Sigma when writing this episode as part of the [[Hasbro]] episode mandates. Not knowing what Vector Sigma was, he pressed story editor [[Bryce Malek]], who in turn had to go to Hasbro to learn that Vector Sigma was "the computer that gave all the Transformers personalities". This caused Malek to respond: "Well, it didn't do a very good job, did it!"
*At the script stage, this episode had the uninspired sub-title "Creation of the Stunticons".
*The shooting scripts for both installments of this two-parter contain several "deleted scenes" which expand greatly upon some of the more significant events in the story. In this episode:
**"That blast" mentioned by Prime in the finished episode actually happens.
**While the other Autobots are busy down in the tunnels, Omega Supreme battles Shockwave on the planet's surface throughout the second act of the episode. Shockwave refers to Omega as his "old enemy," and is on the losing end of the fight until he gets his hands on a "cyberbomb," which he uses to defeat Omega, leaving him very badly damaged. There is a vestigial reference to this battle in Part 2, and further scenes relating to its consequences are removed from that episode, altering the nature of its turning point quite a bit.
*The tank vehicles seen at the army base are the M.O.B.A.T. and the Armadillo from the ''[[G.I. Joe (franchise)|G.I. Joe]]'' animated series.
*Rumble is shown capturing a Tyrrell P34 during a Formula 1 race, the year presumably being 1986. In actuality, the six-wheeler Tyrrell P34 was retired after the 1977 season, and did not appear again on any race circuit until 1999.
*When the Stunticons first veer into traffic, several Earthen cars swerve to avoid them - and they're all in the Stunticons' color schemes. The beige one even has a purple patch where Breakdown's Decepticon insignia is.

===Foreign localization===
'''Italian'''
:*''Title (dub 1):'' "'''Gli Stunticons'''" ("The Stunticons")
:*''Title (dub 2):'' "'''La chiave di Vector Sigma - I'''" ("The Key of Vector Sigma - I")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Vector Sigma no Kagi PART I'''" (ベクターシグマの鍵 PART I, "The Key of Vector Sigma PART I")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[May 2]], [[1986]]

'''Mandarin'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Mólì Shénqiú (Shàng)'''" (魔力神球(上), "The Magic Ball, Part I")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Russian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Klyuch ot Sigma Comp'yutera'''" (Ключ от Сигма Компьютера, "The Key to Sigma Computer")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;VHS
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1986 — ''The Transformers'' — The Key to Vector Sigma & War Dawn ([[Video Gems|A.M.T. Video Gems]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1988 — ''The Transformers'' — The Key to Vector Sigma & War Dawn ([[Video Gems|V.I.P. Video Gems]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 1991 — ''The Transformers'' — The Key to Vector Sigma ([[Video Gems|Little Gems Video Club]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2000 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Volume 4: The Key to Vector Sigma ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]])
;{{w|LaserDisc}}
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1995 — ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' — Megatron Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1999 — ''The Transformers'' — Decepticon Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers'' — DVD Box 2 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2003 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2: Vol. 7 (Rhino Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 2 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 3: Series 2.2 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Volume 06: Stagione Due Parte Quarta ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season Two: Part Two (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Season Two, Volume Two: 25th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2011 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Original Series (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2014 — ''The Transformers'' — Season Two, Volume Two: 30th Anniversary Edition (Shout! Factory) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2014 — ''Transformers'' — The Classic Animated Series (Metrodome)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/season-2/synopses/700-55.html Dossier at The Cybertron Chronicle]

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[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]

Talk:Loose Ends, Part 3

2017-05-04T21:08:27Z

Phantom: /* Featured characters list */ new section

==Repugnus?==
That him with the zombie Decepticons when Spike's telling his tale? --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 06:56, 7 September 2012 (EDT)
:Could be - I thought he looked a bit like Chop Shop, but he was on Cybertron hanging out with Soundwave. It doesn't look at all like Hun-Gurrr though. Is there anyone else accounted for who has those little curved pointy protrusions behind their shoulders? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 04:10, 11 September 2012 (EDT)
::His chest and head have similarities to Repugnus too. Perhaps the script called for someone else with a similar name, like Rampage, and Wildman drew the wrong guy. --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 11:32, 11 September 2012 (EDT)

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So why is Bludgeon not in it? [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 17:08, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

Deathsaurus (G1)

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:''Deathsaurus is a [[Decepticon]] from the [[Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Victory (franchise)|Victory portion]] of the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[File:Deathsaurus1.jpg|325px|thumb|Spell it right or you're kickbanned, buster.]]

'''Deathsaurus''' (デスザラス ''Desuzarasu'') began terrorizing the galaxy long before ascending to the position of Decepticon [[Emperor of Destruction]]. For thousands of years, this savage and cruel dictator has spread terror throughout the universe, and has now set his sights upon the Earth as a source of energy to power his terrifying superweapon, the [[Planet-Destroying Fortress]]. And if [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]] should get in his way, so much the better: Deathsaurus bears the Autobot [[Supreme Commander]] a bitter grudge, and relishes any opportunity to destroy him that presents itself.

Deathsaurus is a [[Breastforce]] warrior, partnered with two transforming chestplates that become the [[Breast Animal]]s [[Tigerbreast]] and [[Eaglebreast]]. He wields a deadly spiked flail, and the [[Living-Metal-Destroying Cannon]], which erodes the living metallic cells of super-robot lifeforms. The bladed wings of his creature mode absorb sunlight, converting it into dark energy, and he can then launch these energized blades at his opponents in an attack known as his "Death Wing". Despite all of these terrifying powers, however, Deathsaurus is a surprisingly "hands off" leader, who is perfectly happy to allow his subordinates to formulate their own plans and schemes to gather energy for him—but if they should fail, he'll always be there to berate and brutalize them. Even when the plans are his own, Deathsaurus is content to watch and command from a distance, rather than dirty his own hands—but he'll rarely waste a chance to engage Star Saber on the battlefield, and if that occurs, woe betide anyone who gets in Deathsaurus's way.

Curiously, Deathsaurus permits himself one distinctive, unusual foible: although he despises most humans, he has a surprising soft spot for children.

{{quote|I will not forgive this, Star Saber! I swear! I swear I will crush you with my bare hands! I swear, you worm! With my bare hands!|Deathsaurus tells you all you'll ever need to know about him|"[[Resurrection!? The Decepticon Fortress]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Japanese Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''Super-God Masterforce'' cartoon====
Clips of Deathsaurus were seen when [[Shūta Gō|Shūta]] and [[Grand Maximus]] were talking about the new [[Supreme Commander]] [[Star Saber (Victory)|Star Saber]]. {{storylink |Shūta and Grand's Masterforce Super-Secrets!}}

====''Victory'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Takeshi Aono]] (Japanese)|[[Rik Thomas]] (English, Omni Productions dub)}}

[[File:Deathsaurus fortress.jpg|left|thumb|225px|By the power of Grayskull!]]

500,000 years ago, striving to become the Decepticons' new Emperor of Destruction, Deathsaurus created a gigantic battle fortress capable of destroying planets, but an attack by the young Autobot commander Star Saber saw the fortress de-powered and trapped in a gravity cell at the heart of the region of space known as [[Dark Nebula]]. This began the enmity between Star Saber and Deathsaurus, and as both combatants rose through the ranks of their respective armies, Deathsaurus vowed to eventually liberate his fortress and use it to destroy Star Saber. {{storylink|Resurrection!? The Decepticon Fortress}}

Some years prior to 2025, after the conclusion of the [[Masterforce War]] on Earth, Deathsaurus succeeded [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] as Decepticon leader and achieved his dream of becoming Emperor of Destruction. {{storylink|#Toys|Deathsaurus's ''Victory'' toy bio}} Under his command, the Decepticons began seeking a planet that they could call their own and invaded worlds all across the galaxy. To counteract Deathsaurus's campaign of terror, the Autobots—now with Star Saber serving as their Supreme Commander—and many other sentient races formed the [[Galactic Peace Alliance]], and struck back at the Decepticons with their [[Galactic Peace Alliance|Galactic Defense Force]]. As time passed and this conflict continued, Deathsaurus began focusing his attacks on "Sector One" of the galaxy, containing the planet Earth, until 2025, when the severity and frequency of the attacks forced Star Saber to take command of the Defense Force unit in that area himself. {{storylink|The Brave Hero of the Universe - Star Saber}}

[[File:Deathsaurus starsaber moonbattle.jpg|thumb|225px|Parry on regardless.]]

When Deathsaurus's [[Dinoforce]] attacked the [[Lunar Base (Victory)|Lunar Base]] on Earth's [[Moon (moon)|moon]], Star Saber raced to aid his fellow [[Brainmaster]]s in battle there, only to find his way barred by Deathsaurus. Hoping to distract Star Saber long enough for the Dinoforce to finish their job, Deathsaurus engaged his old foe in battle, but Star Saber broke off the fight as quickly as he could and headed on toward the moon with Deathsaurus hot on his heels. After Star Saber defeated the Dinoforce, Deathsaurus caught up to him and unleashed his Breast Animals upon the Autobot in both beast and weapon forms. Star Saber eventually won out, defeating both the creatures and besting Deathsaurus in a swordfight, forcing the Decepticon leader to summon up his craft, the ''[[Thunder Arrow]],'' and flee aboard it. {{storylink|The Brave Hero of the Universe - Star Saber}}

[[File:Deathsaurus throne.jpg|left|thumb|225px|THRONE'D!]]

Recognizing the Earth as a rich source of energy that he could use to power up his Planet-Destroying Fortress, Deathsaurus centered most of his subsequent attacks on the planet, summoning the Breastforce to aid in the campaign. {{storylink|Sneak Attack! Dinoking}} {{storylink|Attack! Leozack}} {{storylink|Unite!! Multiforce}} Deathsaurus was entirely aware of the fact that the Breastforce's leader [[Leozack]] had designs on leadership of the Decepticons for himself, {{storylink|Move Out! Rescue Team}} but he was amused enough by it to let him slide by, allowing Leozack to believe that he was oblivious to his schemes. Residing on the Thunder Arrow as it hopscotched around the planet and solar system, Deathsaurus was content to watch as his troops staged numerous attacks on Earth. {{storylink|Infiltration... The Uranium Mine}} {{storylink|Explosion!! The Energy Base}}

[[File:Deathsaurus beastmode.jpg|thumb|225px|Not to be confused with the [[w:Robot Chicken|Adult Swim]] show of the same name.]]

Deathsaurus finally decided to join his troops on a mission when the Decepticon began draining electrical energy from an American subway system. While the Breastforce snuck through the subway tunnels, Deathsaurus himself targeted the power distribution center, where he was confronted by Star Saber. The true cunning of Deathsaurus's scheme was revealed when he let loose his Breast Animals, and Star Saber proved no match for the creatures in the small confines of the underground complex. Unfortunately for Deathsaurus, he had overlooked the fact that with both Breast Animals deployed, his own chest was left unprotected, leaving it open to an attack from Star Saber's Saber Blade. Wounded, Deathsaurus recalled his Breast Animals and fled, but not without successfully taking the energy he had managed to steal beforehand. {{storylink|Big City - Underground Terror}}

When the Breastforce were joined by [[Hellbat (Victory)|Hellbat]], the newcomer also adopted designs on the Decepticon throne. {{storylink|The New Warrior - Hellbat}} Deathsaurus was even less concerned with Hellbat's ambitions than he was with Leozack's, though, since the two would-be traitors were always too busy fighting with each other to pose a serious threat to him. In their constant games of one-upmanship, Leozack and Hellbat crafted numerous failed schemes of their own, eventually forcing Deathsaurus to step in and give his minions a mission of his own devising. Deathsaurus had the Decepticons hide in the asteroid belt and capture human shuttlecraft in order to use drain their energy and use them to create an energy alloy. Star Saber soon got wise to the villains' evildoings and arrived to put a stop to them, but again, Deathsaurus successfully escaped with his amassed energy. {{storylink|A Fierce Battle!! The Asteroid}}

[[File:Starsaber living metal destroying cannon.jpg|left|thumb|Say hello to my little friend...]]

While the Breastforce were busy on planet [[Micro]], Deathsaurus and the Dinoforce took the Thunder Arrow into the Dark Nebula, where Deathsaurus emptied his stockpile of energy into his inactive fortress. The giant structure briefly flared back to life, but soon shut down once more; Deathsaurus was unfazed, having only sought to confirm whether or not the fortress could even be reactivated. On the trip back to Earth, the Decepticons crossed paths with Star Saber and the [[Rescue Patrol Team]], and Deathsaurus engaged Star Saber in battle with his Living-Metal-Destroying Cannon. Although Deathsaurus was actually able to pull the trigger on what would have been a fatal blast, he discovered that he had expended too much of his energy supply reactivating his fortress, and his weapons systems shut down before he could end Star Saber's life, necessitating his tactical withdrawal. {{storylink|Resurrection!? The Decepticon Fortress}}

[[File:Deathsaurus vs leozack.jpg|thumb|Tell me, what was the color of Napoleon's White horse?]]

Deathsaurus next clashed with Star Saber in Antarctica, only stepping onto the battlefield after the Breastforce, combined as [[Liokaiser]], had severely weakened Star Saber. Deathsaurus took over the fight, intent on being the one to deliver the final blow, but Star Saber was able to turn the battle around, and forced Deathsaurus into retreat. {{storylink|Fight to the Death!! Antarctic Battle}} In a later battle atop the Thunder Arrow, deep in the desert, Star Saber again humbled Deathsaurus, this time with the aid of [[Greatshot]], but the fight left both the Supreme Commander and [[Blacker]] badly wounded. {{storylink|Crisis! Ambush in the Desert}} Capitalizing on the Autobots' reduced manpower, Deathsaurus stepped up the Decepticons' attacks across the planet, and removed another annoyance by finally calling Leozack out on his treachery. Easily besting the traitorous Breastforcer in combat, Deathsaurus forced him to swear total loyalty to him, or face death. Leozack made the logical choice, and then, combined with his fellow Breastforcers as Liokaiser, joined with his leader in staging an ambush for Star Saber in a subterranean cave in Asia. Disguising himself as a Terracotta Army-esque statue, Deathsaurus was able to get the drop on Star Saber when Liokaiser lured him into the cave, and again unleashed the Living-Metal-Destroying Cannon on his enemy. Once more, Deathsaurus stood poised to kill Star Saber with the weapon, until the last-minute arrival of [[Ginrai|God Ginrai]], who took the fatal shot. Liokaiser had to persuade the incensed Deathsaurus to retreat as more Autobots arrived, {{storylink|A Deadly Battle}} but the Decepticon leader soon clashed with Star Saber once more in a later battle at a solar power station. Deathsaurus emerged victorious in that fight when Star Saber was forced to flee upon receiving news of Ginrai's deteriorating condition. {{storylink|Ginrai Dies!!}} Ginrai's life was saved, however, when he was rebuilt into the powerful new warror, [[Victory Leo]]. {{storylink|Fight!! Victory Leo}}

Next, Deathsaurus began bombarding the Earth with missiles from an orbital weapons platform, as a means of staying the Autobots' hands while his forces gathered energy across the planet. Star Saber and Victory Leo were able to thwart his plan by combining into the mighty Victory Saber; Deathsaurus's missile launch system had been programmed based on Star Saber's speed, but with the added power of Victory Leo, the Autobot hero was able to outrace the missiles, destroy the launcher and defeat Deathsaurus in an outer space battle. {{storylink|The Tide Is Turned! The Ultimate Weapon, the Victory Unification}}

[[File:Victory37 finalblow.jpg|left|thumb|Who says robots don't bleed?]]

Following an attempt to destroy the Autobots with the metal-eating [[Doriya]] insects, {{storylink|The Death-Bringing Space Insects!!}} Deathsaurus was informed by Hellbat that he had discovered the location of the sunken continent of [[Atlantis]], which could provide the raw energy to reactivate his fortress. Deathsaurus risked all or nothing to obtain Atlantis's energy, using up the Thunder Arrow's entire energy stockpile to raise the continent, but the plan proved a success, as the Autobots were too busy dealing with the devastating tidal waves caused by the rise of Atlantis to stop him from absconding with enough energy to bring his fortress back online. {{storylink|The Terror of the Giant Tidal Waves}} Having no further use for the bumbling Dinoforce, Deathsaurus abandoned them on Earth and headed back to the Dark Nebula with the Breastforce, where he successfully re-energized his fortress and began moving it towards Earth. {{storylink|The Wrath of the Resurrected Giant Fortress!}}

[[File:Victory37 deadsaurus.jpg|thumb|With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!]]

Intent on learning from the failures of all past Decepticon leaders, Deathsaurus chose not to conquer Earth, but to utterly destroy the planet, eradicting from Decepticon history the humiliating stain of defeat the planet represented. As the fortress rained destruction down upon Earth with meteor bombs, even Victory Saber could not stand up to its power. Soon, however, a resentful Dinoforce supplied information on the fortress's weak spot to Star Saber's adopted human son, [[Jan Minakaze|Jan]], who then used his own [[Illumina II|personal mech]] to enter the fortress and strike at this vulnerability. As he did so, Deathsaurus and Star Saber engaged in a vicious final battle, during which Deathsaurus lost an eye, and was eventually stopped when Star Saber broke his sword off in the villain's chest. Gushing fuel and fluid, Deathsaurus vowed to have the last laugh as he set the crippled fortress on a collision course with Earth and blew himself out an airlock, vowing to return again and again. But, as his body drifted off into space, no sign of life was visible from the conquered emperor. Victory Saber was able to subsequently destroy the fortress before it collided with Earth, but Deathsaurus was not heard from again. {{storylink|Showdown! The Fortress vs the Victory Unification}}
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{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|Attack the Shuttle Base!!}} {{storylink|Tanker Hijack Operation}} {{storylink|Rescue Jan!!}} {{storylink|Unite! Liokaiser}} {{storylink|Battle Up of Wrath!!}} {{storylink|Jan - Defend the Campus!!}} {{storylink|A Mystery?! The Deception of the Base Bombs}}}}

====''Zone'' catalog====
[[File:DarkEmperorDeathsaurusZone01.jpg|thumb|upright=0.85]]

Through means unknown, Deathsaurus was resurrected as the "[[Emperor of Destruction|Dark Emperor]]" and once again lead the Decepticons in an attack on the Autobots. This time, it was a full-on assault on planet [[Micro|Zone]] in an attempt to seize the Micro Zone's [[Energon Z]]. The [[Micromaster]]s repelled his attack and sent Deathsaurus into retreat. What became of him afterward is unknown. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers: Zone (story page)#Catalogue story page 1|Zone Project Story}}
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===''Victory'' manga===
[[File:MangaYoungDeathyStarSaber.jpg|left|thumb|225px|"Come back here and help me put some sense in this image!"]]
Deathsaurus and Star Saber's rivalry began 500,000 years ago when they were both children, and according to Star Saber, "argued all the time". {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jan and Star Saber!}} In his "adult" years, Deathsaurus took [[Esmeral (Victory)|Esmeral]] as his wife, and in order to keep both her and the families of his fellow Decepticons safe aboard his "Space Stronghold", Deathsaurus began attacking Earth, in order to obtain the planet's energy and use it to keep the stronghold fully powered-up. {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}

During one of his early attacks on Earth, Deathsaurus took pity on an infant human named [[Solon Kitakaze (Victory)|Solon Kitakaze]], whose parents had died in the assault. Deathsaurus "adopted" Solon and turned him into a cyborg, raising him as his own son, just as Star Saber did with the human child Jan Minakaze. As Star Saber and Deathsaurus had been rivals in their youth, so too would Solon and Jan become rivals when, in 2025, Deathsaurus's campaign against Earth intensified.

Deathsaurus and Star Saber's first major battle in this campaign was a brief one, with Deathsaurus being felled by a single swipe of Star Saber's Saber Blade, {{storylink|Magnificent! Our Friend, Star Saber!}} but the Emperor of Destruction had a better showing in their next clash, during which he absorbed enough energy from a forest fire to best Star Saber, Road Caesar and Landcross all together. Deathsaurus's unusual compassion for children proved to be his downfall in this battle when he was distracted by the sight of Solon, gripping Jan in a hold that threatened the boy's life. While Deathsaurus's attention was occupied with striking Solon as punishment, Star Saber blindsided and defeated him with a Super Saber Meteor Spin. {{storylink|Great Turn-Around! Star Saber}}

Deathsaurus later sent Solon to study in school on Earth, in order to learn more about humans, thereby making it easier to conquer them. {{storylink|Leozack Rumbles Violently!}} While Solon was on Earth, he and Jan were approached by former Autobot human allies [[Shūta Gō]] and [[Cab]], {{storylink|Warrior of Love, Star Saber!}} and with Jan, they formed the "Autobot Boy Team" known as the [[Victories]]. Seeking to counter this group with a team of his own, Deathsaurus had [[Yokuryu]] capture Jan and bring him to the ''Thunder Arrow'', where he attempted to bribe the boy into joining the Decepticons' group with toys, a [[Family Computer|Famicom]], candy and cash. When an enraged Star Saber soon came tearing into the ''Thunder Arrow'', Deathsaurus crossed swords with the Autobot leader, but was then distracted by Jan distracting who exploited the Decepticon's bizarre fear of caterpillars by dangling one in his face. The cowering Deathsaurus was promptly bested in dramatically explosive fashion by Star Saber's "Planetary Impulse Sword" technique, and realised with hindsight that Solon was the only kid he needed. {{storylink|Watch Out, Jan! Hurry, Star Saber!}} Deathsaurus was apparently left so badly injured by this clash that he couldn't participate in the next battle, given that he was only seen lying in bed, coughing, with Solon resting a giant ice-pack on his head. {{storylink|The Star of Friendship, Jan and Star Saber!}}

[[File:Kingsaurus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|The mighty Kingsaurus. Mighty.]]

Rested and healthy again, Deathsaurus joined with [[Dinoking]] and Liokaiser in going up against Star Saber together, and perhaps not entirely surprisingly, the badly outnumbered Autobot was defeated by the three Decepticons. Before they could deliver the killing stroke, however, Star Saber was saved by the sudden arrival of Victory Leo, with whom he combined to form Victory Saber. The merged pair defeated the trio of Decepticons in one blast of their "Flash Victory" attack. {{storylink|The Strongest Partners, the Combination of Victory!}} Deathsaurus immediately sought out away to combat Star Saber's new power, and developed a Transformer-sized mech for Solon named "King Solon," with which he could combine to form "Kingsaurus". In this new form, Deathsaurus battled Victory Saber on the planet [[Guard]], with neither combatant getting the upper hand in over three hours of fighting. When [[Patty Minakaze]]'s mentioned the word "mother", however, something of Solon's past was stirred in the boy's mind, and he was distracted long enough for Victory Saber to destroy the King Solon mech components with his Victory. The burning Solon tumbled to the ground, where Patty tended his wounds despite his protestations. Perhaps wary of Solon's confused emotional state, Deathsaurus reminded him that while he was a human child, he was a Decepticon's son by fate. {{storylink|Mighty! Victory Saber}}

[[File:Starsaber deathsaurus truce.jpg|left|225px|thumb|"So, we both agree that the childhood friendship thingie made no sense at all?" "Yes! Oh, what a glorious day!"]]

As it turned out, Deathsaurus was right to be wary—in the midst of a later battle with Star Saber and Road Caesar, Solon turned against Deathsaurus and sided with the Victories, opening fire on his "father" and declaring that he would fight to protect the Earth, instead of destroy it. Now with Solon on their side, the Victories were able to channel their power into the Autobots, and the Decepticons were sent fleeing by the "Five Stars of Victory" attack. {{storylink|Shine! The Five Stars of Victory}} Deathsaurus led the Decepticons back to the Space Stronghold and began bombarding the Earth with meteor bombs, prompting the Autobots to attack it. Deathsaurus left the Breastforce to man the fortress while he engaged Star Saber in a final battle in the void of space, but had not reckoned with the treachery of Leozack, who fired on his emperor with the fortress's main cannon. To save himself, Deathsaurus was forced to return fire on the fortress, and Star Saber followed suite, smashing into the fortress's control chamber and taking Leozack down. As Leozack begged the Autobots not to destroy the fortress, the wounded Deathsaurus arrived and revealed to the Autobots the presence of the Decepticons' families aboard the vessel. Realizing that the Decepticons' had only done what they had in the name of their families' safety, Star Saber decided that it was time for the two leaders to follow the example set by their sons and lay down their arms. Deathsaurus and Star Saber shook hands, and the [[Victory War]] came to an end, bringing peace to everyone—the truest victory of all! {{storylink|Heroic! The Victory War}}
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===''Transformers PD Type'' comic===
[[File:PDType Deathsaurus blackball.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
Out of ammo, the Autobots started throwing things at Deathsaurus, including a [[Blackball]]! Gloating, Deathsaurus began to plan his conquest of the galaxy, only to become so annoyed at the rocks bouncing off his head that in frustration he threw the Blackball at the Autobots. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##4 "Good Job! Deathsaurus!!"|Good Job! Deathsaurus!!}} Right when Star Saber was ready to finish him, Deathsaurus brought in Liokaiser. The two Decepticons were soon hunting for their enemy as he frantically tried to contact Victory Leo. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##5 "Don't Lose! Star Saber!!"|Don't Lose! Star Saber!!}}

Deathsaurus and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] were pounced on by Victory Leo until Megatron was able to distract the lion with a huge ball of yarn, allowing the Decepticons to escape. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##6 "Tough as Nails! Victory Leo!"|Tough as Nails! Victory Leo!}} After a lengthy mid-air battle with Star Saber, Deathsaurus fell from the sky and ended up with [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] chewing on his head. {{storylink|Transformers PD Type##8 "Me Strongest! Me Grimlock!"|Me Strongest! Me Grimlock!}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' continuity===
[[File:Deathsaurus dreamwave.jpg|left|thumb|125px|Polish Me!]]
Deathsaurus was an [[Destron (G1)|ancient Transformer]] from Cybertron's lost past. While searching for clues about the planet's history, Megatron stumbled across a hidden chamber beneath the planet's surface containing two massive statues of Deathsaurus and [[Dai Atlas (Zone)|Dai Atlas]], holding a [[Golden Disk (ancient)|golden disk]] between them. This chamber apparently told of a vast Cybertronian Empire that ended prior to recorded history. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}
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===Descent into Evil===
[[File:Deathsaurustimelines.jpg|thumb|Deathsaurus orchestrates the rise of a New Decepticon Empire, or NAMBLA.]]

Using a clone lab on [[Ceti Alpha Seven]], Deathsaurus wished to revive the fading [[Decepticon Empire]] with a vast [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] army. After the first batch of [[Virulent Clone|clones]] was completed, his operation was interrupted by a team of [[Autobot]] commandos under the command of [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]. Deathsaurus overpowered and captured the first wave himself, and soon faced Ironhide one-on-one, while [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] attempted to rescue the fallen Autobots. Due to the assistance of Tripredacus Agent [[Flamewar (G1)|Flamewar]], these two were defeated and captured as well.

They woke up bound inside Deathsaurus's clone lab. The Emperor of Destruction appeared on a television screen, declaring that his use for the lab was completed and was prepared to detonate it remotely with the Autobots inside. Unfortunately for Deathsaurus, the Autobot espionage agent [[Ricochet (Timelines)|Ricochet]] not only freed the Autobots before the explosion occurred, but also seeded the remaining clones with a virus, leaving Deathsaurus with nothing to show for his work. {{storylink|Descent into Evil}}
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===Theft of the Golden Disk===
Years later, towards the end of the Great War, the [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] [[Cryotek (Universe)|Cryotek]] worked under Deathsaurus as a supply manager. When the final defeat of the Decepticons at last came, Cryotek led his fellow Predacon workers in a rebellion against Deathsaurus, and used the materials he stole from his depot to begin his own criminal empire. {{storylink|Transformers Collectors' Club|Cryotek's "Theft of the Golden Disk" profile}}

===''Wings Universe''===
Deathsaurus's origins are unknown, but he quickly rose within the ranks of the Decepticons after the uprisings began. He established himself as one of the fourteen leading [[Decepticon Warlord|Warlord]]s in the Decepticon cause and gathered a small inner circle of followers including [[Lyzack (Victory)|Lyzack]], [[Falcon (G1)|Falcon]], and [[Vanquish (G1)|Vanquish]]. Deathsaurus preferred to lead from his throne room, directing others to carry out his strategies from a distance. He accumulated a great deal of ill-gotten wealth from his forces' assaults on high-ranking generals and aristocrats in the Autobot hierarchy, while carrying on his own experiments into the areas of [[Triple Changer|multiple alternate modes]] and [[Combiner|combination technology]]. {{storylink|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 34|Deathsaurus's Wings of Honor profile}}

Following a raid against the Autobot general [[Traachon]], Deathsaurus sat in his throne room enjoying the fruit of his labors, and the finest oil reserves from the good general's private stash. He updated himself on [[Rage (G1)|Rage]]'s final fate at [[Median]] thanks to his deep cover source, [[Flip Sides (G1)|Flip Sides]]. Reviewing the details of the conflict with the [[Cybertron Elite Guard|Elite Guard]], a plan began to form in his diabolical processor regarding the reported victors, the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticon]]s. {{storylink|Flames of Yesterday}}

[[File:TheComingStorm4-LordDeathsaurus.jpg|left|thumb|upright=2.2|He wasn't quite sure whether he was hiring [[Leozack]] or [[Lyzack (Victory)|Lyzack]] to serve him drinks.]]

Seeing the possibility of swaying the Combaticons to his cause, Deathsaurus had [[Onslaught (G1)|Onslaught]] and his men captured and brought to his headquarters. In his throne room Deathsaurus wove a complicated web of deceit, half-truths, and temptations to bring the Elite Guardsmen under his control. [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]] and [[Vortex (G1)|Vortex]] were easy, as their respective greed and love of fine oil was easy to satisfy. To earn their trust, Deathsaurus offered to fix up the Combaticons' armor due to the "mistaken" injuries they suffered at the hands of his soldiers, and he also offered to upgrade them in the process. The lonely [[Blast Off (G1)|Blast Off]] was quick to jump at the idea of having both land and space modes, letting him remain active and useful on the ground. [[Brawl (G1)|Brawl]]'s anger could not be easily cooled, so Deathsaurus merely redirected it, suggesting the Combaticons could not fight properly without the Elite Guard backing them up. After that comment, Brawl was more than willing to fight the Elite Guard to prove he was tougher.

Onslaught was the most difficult to manipulate, and so Deathsaurus appealed to his pride, intimating that Onslaught's strategic skill had waned since his days at the top of [[Omnihelix Academy]]. Instead, Deathsaurus posited that Onslaught could reach his full potential once freed from the shackles of the Elite Guard. By defeating the Guard, the Combaticons could prove they were better than Autobot and Decepticon alike, and become a new symbol of power on post-war Cybertron. Unwilling to appear weak, and lured by the notion of personal power and recognition, Onslaught relented. At this point, the Combaticons were all suitably mollified, ready to follow Deathsaurus's commands while still believing it was ''their'' decision to do so. Deathsaurus sealed the deal with his newly completed combiner technology blueprints, and left Onslaught to plan his attack. {{storylink|The Coming Storm: Part 4}}

As the Combaticons prepared for an attack against their former allies, Deathsaurus turned his attention to other matters. Although he had a seat on the Decepticon War Council, Deathsaurus rarely if ever chose to attend the meetings. Instead, he sent his spokesman, Falcon in his place. With the Council in disarray after the capture of [[Gutcruncher (G1)|Gutcruncher]] and the merger of the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]s and [[Photon]]s with Megatron's forces, Deathsaurus decided it was time to act. He sent the unwitting Falcon to the council meeting with a bomb and detonated it, killing his faithful lieutenant and five of the remaining Warlords. With one well-timed explosion, Deathsaurus ensured that only he and [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] remained as Decepticon Warlords and rivals for power. Deathsaurus then turned to continue planning with Falcon's replacement, his newly appointed lieutenant and head of the [[Seeker (body-type)|Skyraider-Seeker Brigade]].

His name was [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]]. {{storylink|A Team Effort}}

[[File:BattleLines3-makeyoupay.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|Dude, just use a [[Robo-Smasher]] and spare yourself the effort.]]

Starscream was happy to report to Deathsaurus that the Combaticons, in their new combined form of [[Bruticus (G1)|Bruticus]], had successfully vanquished the Elite Guard, and that the turncoats were on their way back to Deathsaurus' lair. Despite their victory, Starscream chafed at his commander's plan to welcome them into the Decepticons proper. Starscream feared that the Combaticons were not true Decepticons, but instead using their new allegiance to further their own quest for power. Deathsaurus countered that was what made them the perfect Decepticons, and reminded his new lieutenant that ambition is what separates the Decepticons from the stagnation and complacency of the Autobots. Starscream acquiesced and was ordered by Deathsaurus to help Lyzack prepare the medical bay for the arriving Combaticons. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 1}}

Deathsaurus observed as the Combaticons were repaired, and ordered Constructicons to concentrate on repairing them to the point that they could form Bruticus at Deathsaurus's will. After Bruticus proved to wild to control and was shut down, Starscream admired Deathsaurus's forethought in adding an override to the Combiner. He also warned the Warlord of an Elite Guard squad approaching their base. Deathsaurus ordered Starscream to call the troops to arms. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 2}} He himself took part in the fight, exchanging blows with [[Magnum]] and informing the Autobot that he had done nothing to the Combaticons' minds other than convince them they would be better served by the Decepticon cause. Outraged, Magnum renewed his attack on the self-proclaimed emperor. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 3}}

[[File:BattleLines5-istillfunction.jpg|left|thumb|upright=1.66|"Did I do... good?" "Look, stop stealing other guys' lines!"]]

The Warlord pointed out mockingly that Magnum's backup appeared to be falling flat, at which point the Autobot blasted him in the chest. Magnum took a battering from Lyzack, and Deathsaurus picked himself up to find Magnum and [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] right where he could finish them off. Unfortunately that was when [[Sprocket (G1)|Sprocket]] jumped on him, demanding a [[zap-pony]] ride, and then shot him in his already damaged chest. Deathsaurus ordered a retreat, however the greatest indignity was still to come, as when he got home, he found his throne had been claimed by Megatron. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 4}}

Deathsaurus was chained and led into the gladiatorial arena to face Megatron in a ritual contest to decide leadership of the Decepticons. Deathsaurus bitterly observed that if Megatron wanted this to be a fair fight, he would allow him to first repair the injuries that were dealt by Magnum and Sprocket—but Megatron laughed off the notion that he could ever want a fair fight. Megatron defeated Deathsaurus in melee combat, clawed his face off, then blasted him with his fusion cannon at point-blank range for good measure—emerging as the unquestioned leader of the Decepticons. As the troops rallied around their new leader, Lyzack approached her fallen emperor and found that, despite his tremendous damage, he still functioned. The humbled Deathsaurus said he had no choice but to go into exile, and Lyzack agreed to accompany him. {{storylink|Battle Lines, Part 5}}
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===''Kre-O'' comic===
[[File:KreO-webcomic-5-Deathsaurus.jpg|100px|thumb]]
Deathsaurus was part of a massive Decepticon invasion force intended to ruin the Autobots' picnic. However, [[Optimus Prime (Kre-O)|Optimus Prime]] plowed through them with his truck and left them scattered... and then left. Returning to the scene after.. ''ahem'', taking care of some pressing business, Optimus gathered up the still-wiped-out Kreons, bound them up on a flatbed trailer, and took them to the picnic. {{storylink|Emergency! Hurry to the Base, Optimus!}}
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
[[File:PermanentRevolution-Deathsaurus.jpg|thumb|His twisted twin obsessions are his plot to rule the world
And his employees' health.]]
Deathsaurus was born a [[Decepticon]] during the [[Great War (G1)|Great War]]. He enjoyed a successful career [[Eco-structuring|cyberforming]] planets, but grew tired of [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]'s seeming apathy towards the well-being of his troops. Eventually, Deathsaurus broke away from his command and, using a stolen [[Warworld]], led a contingent of his own troops to ravage worlds. Deathsaurus's betrayal placed him on the [[Decepticon Justice Division]]'s [[The List|List]].

When the DJD eventually came, albeit to offer a deal, a disbelieving Deathsaurus tried to preemptively blow up [[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]]. Deathsaurus switched off his audio receptors to avoid Tarn's weaponized conversation—but Tarn tapped into the Warworld's [[inter-Decepticon radio]] and bought enough time to offer Deathsaurus a deal: join the DJD in preserving the Decepticon dream and eliminating the then-[[Autobot]] Megatron, in exchange for removing his and his soldiers' names from the List. As a condition, Deathsaurus told Tarn to slay the other members of the DJD as payback for all their past victims, and Tarn refused... which was all Deathsaurus needed to see. Satisfied that his test had proven that Tarn was not so callous about his soldiers' lives as Megatron had been, Deathsaurus agreed to join forces. {{storylink|The Permanent Revolution}}

Months later, the Decepticons ambushed Megatron and his Auto-chums at the [[Censere|Necrobot]]'s [[Necroworld|planet]] {{storylink|The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds|How Bright Their Frail Deeds}} but, under Tarn's command, they backed off to return at sunset. While being shown Tarn's collection of literary miner corpses (and professing ignorance of early rebel [[Terminus (G1)|Terminus]]), Deathsaurus expressed his troops' frustration that they hadn't just ''killed'' the enemy already. Tarn told him this was an act of psychological torture. Later, he joined the Division in discussing how best to make the final assault. {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 2: The Sun in Flight|The Sun in Flight}}

{{charstubfiction|{{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 3: Your Fierce Tears|Your Fierce Tears}} {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 4: At Close of Day|At Close of Day}} {{storylink|The Dying of the Light Part 5: Rage, Rage|Rage, Rage}}}}
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==Games==
===''Transformers Ultimate Allstars''===
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==Toys==
===Victory===
[[File:Deathsaurus g1toy.jpg|thumb|upright=1.66|"Aaawrk! Deathy shouldn't be!"]]
* '''Deszaras''' {{sic}} (Large Breastforce, 1989)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''D-336'''
**''Accessories'': Tail/shield, rifle, Tigerbreast & Eaglebreast "Breast Animals"
:"Deszaras" transforms into a blue and grey dragon-like monster styled after traditional Japanese "kaijū"--though he also looks somewhat like a giant mutant space chicken, and in fact the animators would play up the bird-like features significantly more than the reptilian aspects in the actual cartoon. Unusual for late Generation 1 toys, he has [[die-cast]]-metal feet in [[beast mode]].

:Deathsaurus comes packaged with his Breast Animal partners, Tigerbreast and Eaglebreast, which transform from creatures into hand-held weapons for Deathsaurus, and a pair of breastplates which lock into a spring-loaded socket on the toy's body to form elaborate torso armor for the Deathsaurus's [[robot mode]]. Eaglebreast is inserted first, then Tigerbreast fits on top, concealing it; the figures can also be attached while Deathsaurus is in beast mode, which leaves them on his creature mode's back. Deathsaurus comes with armament in addition to his Breast Animals, including a light blue laser rifle—which, despite what the boxart and cartoon would have you believe, does not have a removable flail—that can be wielded by both an ordinary handle, and a second peg on its butt that allows it to be brandished like a staff or blade of some kind, and his "Death Tailer" shield, which mounts on either of his biceps, and transforms into his beast mode tail.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1989/Destron/Deathsaurus/deathsaurus.htm More information on Deathsaurus at TFU.info]''
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===Timelines===
[[File:Deathsaurusbotcontoy.jpg|upright=1.66|thumb|If you squint, he could still be [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron]].]]
* '''Descent into Evil''' (multi-pack, 2005)
**''Accessories'': 2 launchers, 2 Energon blade missiles

: Part of the [[BotCon 2005]] "Descent into Evil" boxset, Deathsaurus is a blue and black [[retool]] of [[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 toyline)|2001 ''Robots in Disguise'']] [[Megatron (RID)|Megatron/Galvatron]]. He comes with a pair of swords that can launch their blade-missiles through a pressure-launch mechanism, as well as combine at their bottom ends to form a large double-blade weapon. The blade-missiles are rounded off [[for safety reasons]] like the other [[Hasbro]] uses of the mold. His head is a new sculpt based on Deathsaurus's appearance in the ''Victory'' anime (though Deathsaurus's face seems to be copied from Megatron's).

:Deathsaurus's mold was originally a ten-changer, though the "gargoyle"/bat mode was neutered for this release due to the dropping of the bat snout piece, required to give his new head enough space inside his chest cavity for other modes. He still retains the other nine modes (robot, dragster, jet, [[Popular beast alternate modes|two-headed dragon]], hand, mammoth, hydrofoil, one-headed dragon, and winged griffin). His instructions, however, assign him the six modes of the original RID Megatron, ''including'' the gargoyle and omitting the boat, griffin, mammoth and flying dragon. His tail-piece was removed for in-box storage, but easily popped back on since it's on a ball-and-socket joint.

:Eleven years later, he was retooled again into [[BotCon 2016]]'s ''[[Combiner Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]].

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2005/Decepticon/BCDeathsaurus/deathsaurus.htm More information on BotCon Deathsaurus at TFU.info]''
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===Generations===
*'''Liokaiser'''
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==Merchandise==
===Transformers Gum===
[[File:Tfgum deszaras.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
* '''Deathsaurus''' (1989)
** ''Accessories:'' Tail/shield, rifle

:Part of the twelfth wave of [[Kabaya]]'s ''[[Transformers Gum]]'' series of [[candy toy]]s, this Deathsaurus figure is a snap-together model kit cast in blue, red and grey plastic. Although lacking in any paint applications, the figure feature stickers for detail, and retains most of the accessories and features of the actual Deathsaurus toy, though not his Breast Animal partners. It comes with a stick of something that might be gum.
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{{anchor|2012}}
[[File:KabayaGumDeathsaurus.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4]]
* '''Deathsaurus''' (2012)
** ''Accessories:'' Tail/shield, rifle, Tigerbreast, Eaglebreast

:Part of the fifth wave of the "modern" revival of the Transformers Gum series, Deathsaurus once again makes an appearance as a snap-together transforming model kit with stickered detail. It is an entirely new mold featuring much better color-matching with the full-scale toy. Uniquely, this version also incorporates his transformable Breast Animal partners - though they are actually sold separately, with [[Tigerbreast#Transformers Gum|Tigerbreast]] packed in with [[Optimus Prime (WFC)#Transformers Gum|''War for Cybertron'' Optimus Prime]] and [[Eaglebreast#Transformers Gum|Eaglebreast]] included with [[Hot Spot (G1)#Transformers Gum|Hot Spot]].
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===Parody Deformed===
[[File:Deathsaurus pd model.jpg|thumb|upright=0.85]]
* '''Deathsaurus''' (1990)

:A small, blue, white and red, non-transforming [[super deformed]] model kit of Deathsaurus was available as part of [[Kabaya]]'s "[[Parody Deformed]]" line of candy toys. The fourth figure in the series, he came with a "[[Transformers PD Type]]" comic about himself, "Good Job! Deathsaurus!!", and more of that alleged "gum".
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===Super Figure Collection===
[[File:Deathsaurus scfs.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Take it all off!]]
* '''Deathsaurus''' (2002)
:A PVC figurine of Deathsaurus was released in the seventh Victory-centric "act" of Takara's ''[[Heroes of Cybertron|Super Collection Figure]].'' Deathsaururs was available in both standard full-color version and metallic silver "pewter" versions; the pewter version came packaged with the wings of Victory Saber, one of several extra pieces packed with the various figures from the wave which could combine with the act's Star Saber figure to turn it into Victory Saber. The wings were available in both standard full color (at a rate of eight out of every ten cases) and rare pewter (only two in every ten).

* '''Deathsaurus with Eaglebreast''' (2002)
:Also available in the seventh wave was a rare "chase" version of the Deathsaurus PVC, available at a rate of one in every ten cases, featuring the character with his inner Breast Animal partner, Eaglebreast, on display, rather than the normal version's Tigerbreast.
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===Timelines===
[[File:Deathsauruspin.jpg|thumb|75px|Deathstickus]]

* '''Deathsaurus pin''' (2005)

: The first 100 BotCon 2005 Primus-package preregistrants received an exclusive Deathsaurus pin as part of their registration package.
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===Robot Heroes===
[[File:Robot Heroes Victory Saber Dessaras.jpg|thumb|upright=1.67|The face that launch'd a thousand ships.]]
*'''Victory Saber''' / '''Dessaras''' (unreleased)

:A surprise entry in the ''[[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]]'' series, this [[super deformed]] figurine of Deathsaurus also sports a name variant that hearkens back to his original Japanese moniker, only missing the spelling by one letter. Originally discovered amongst [[Walmart]] store computer listings in mid-2008, he would have come packaged with an equally-adorable Victory Saber, but alas, the two-pack failed to materialize before the ''Robot Heroes'' line was canceled.
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==Notes==
[[File:DeathsaurusAndRedGeist.jpg|thumb|upright=1.4|Definitely not toy-accurate, but definitely awesome.]]

* While often called a [[dragon]] or occasionally a [[griffin]], and hilariously, a "bigbird" on his original Japanese [[bio]] card, Deathsaurus is most likely styled after traditional Japanese "kaijū", such as [[Godzilla]] or Rodan.
* The original Deathsaurus mold was redecoed into the non-living "Red Geist" (レッドガイスト ''Reddo Gaisuto'') mech for [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s ''[[Brave (franchise)|Brave of Legend Da Garn]]'' toyline, which lacked the Eaglebreast partner. Although the character design in the television show for the line was significantly modified from that of Deathsaurus (see image at right), including replacing Tigerbreast's tiger mode with a jet mode, the Red Geist toy itself was not retooled. [http://tfbaka.de-blog.jp/1dai/2008/08/post_6871.html More on Red Geist at a Japanese toy photoblog.]
*Like all non-toy robot Kreons in the ''Kre-O'' comics, Deathsaurus is made from existing ''Kre-O'' parts. He uses the [[Inferno (Kre-O)|Inferno]] helmet, the [[Starscream (Kre-O)|Starscream]] wing-pack, a thick rifle, a 2x4 "wing" plate attached (somehow) to his arm to replicate the tail-shield... and then there's his chestplate. The plate itself is a 1x1 plate with twin bars and a pair of Starscream arm-guns attached... but it's "connected" to a 2x2 harness piece, which can only be done by adding a 1x2 center-peg plate in between them which is kind of unnecessary since there's a 1x1 harness piece that will do the job nicely, no middle-brick required.

===His stupid name===

Deathsaurus's name is the source of a long-lasting argument. The phonetic Japanese reading of the name is: "De-su-za-ra-su". This is represented in English on his toy packaging and tech specs as "Deszaras." English-speaking fans would long debate the "proper" [[romanization]] of the name, interpreting it as Deszaras, Deathzaras, Deathsaurus, Death Czarus, Death Czaras, and many others. "Deathsaurus" had a tendency to be the most popular and well-known (on account of it actually ''meaning'' something), which led to it being used on the character's first Western toy in 2005, making it his official American name.

At [[BotCon 2015]], after ''decades'' of such back-and-forths, the designer of the original toy, [[Kōjin Ōno]], confirmed that the name was indeed always supposed to have been "Deathsaurus"… during a panel presentation that rendered the name as "Dethzarasu". It is anyone's guess as to why the original Japanese lettering did not read "sa-u-ru-su" or "za-u-ru-su," as had already been done with [[Trypticon (G1)|Dinosaurer]] and [[Saur]], rather than "za-ra-su". As such, in the years before that revelation was made clear, the character had continued to be called "Deszaras" on the [[Metrodome]] and [[Madman Entertainment]] DVD boxsets of the ''Victory'' cartoon.

At one point Hasbro appeared to be trying to steer things back in that direction with the cancelled [[Robot Heroes (toyline)|Robot Heroes]] figure, named "Dessaras". Only one letter off, there, guys!

===Foreign names===
*''Arabic:'' '''Deathsandar''' (دثساندر ''Dithsāndar'')
*''English:'' '''Deathsanras''' ([[Omni Productions]] dub)
*''Mandarin:'' '''Shènglā''' (Taiwan, 盛拉), '''Dà Kǒnglóng Sàlāsī''' (China, 大恐龙萨拉斯, "Big Dinosaur Saras")
*''Russian:'' '''Smertonosets''' (Смертоносец, "Death bringer")
*''Spanish:'' '''Zan Rás''' (America)
*''Ukrainian:'' '''Smertelnyi Sanraz''' (Смертельний Санраз)

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The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds

2016-03-17T14:48:49Z

Phantom: /* Featured characters */ Can you guys like not see Swerve right under Crossblades?

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|title="The Dying of the Light: (1) How Bright Their Frail Deeds"
|caption=
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|published in=[[More than Meets the Eye issue 50|''More than Meets the Eye'' #50]]
|date=[[February 24]], [[2016]] (digital, parts of Europe and Asia) [[March 9]], 2016 (rest of world)
|coverdate=February 2016
|written by=[[James Roberts]]
|pencils by=[[Alex Milne]]
|inks by=Alex Milne and [[Brian Shearer]]
|colors by=[[Joana Lafuente]] (pg. 1-10), [[Priscilla Tramontano]] (pg. 11-15, 22-23, 27-32), [[John-Paul Bove]] (pg. 17-21, 24-26)
|letters by=[[Tom B. Long]]
|editor=[[John Barber]]
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]
|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era (2016)]]
}}

'''A psychic attack leads Team Rodimus back to the Necrobot's planet, where a mutiny in the ranks of the ''Lost Light'' spells their doom.'''

==Synopsis==

''On [[Earth]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] and [[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] receive a haunting transmission: a series of videos from crewmembers of the ''[[Lost Light]]''—[[Nautica (G1)|Nautica]], [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]], [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Minimus Ambus]], [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]], [[Rung (G1)|Rung]], and [[Velocity (G1)|Velocity]]—explaining that they are about to die and leaving individual instructions for how they wish to be interred. The broadcast also reaches [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Moonbase One|Luna 1]], and the ''[[Weak Anthropic Principle]]'', but the ''Lost Light'' remains silent, unresponsive to any hailing requests. Optimus Prime proposes using the [[space bridge]] to go to their rescue, but Jetfire reveals the awful truth... the message claims the speakers have six hours left to live, but it was sent three weeks ago.''

Three weeks earlier, the ''Lost Light''ers help liberate the planet [[Miliarium]] from the clutches of the [[Rust Giant]]s, with the super-strong [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] taking out their biggest, meanest member. [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]—remotely supervising the battle from the ship on account of his newfound pacifism—is a little prickly when he discovers that everyone hid from him the fact that Millarians are organic, but softens when [[Hot Rod/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] lets him give the "[[roll out]]" order.

A little later, after everyone has returned to the ship, Megatron holds the latest in a series of classes on the [[Knights of Cybertron]], and focuses his attention on the mysterious, gear-like hieroglyph that the crew have come upon several times in the course of their quest. Pooling their knowledge, the class concludes that the symbol is a kind of "coat of arms," representing just one of multiple clans that existed within the Knights' ranks. The discussion is interrupted, however, when Megatron suddenly reels in pain, clutching his head; when Minimus Ambus attempts to go to his aid, the ex-Decepticon reflexively lashes out, punching Minimus across the room. Horrified at his own actions, Megatron retreats to his quarters, where Velocity checks him over and administers his latest dose of [[Fool's Energon]]. She worries that the sedative could be the reason for Megatron's actions, as it has been known to cause fluctuations in a 'bot's personality, but he explains that he was bombarded with agonizing, screaming voices in his mind—an experience, it soon turns out, that a handful of ''other'' crew members also underwent at the same time, each hearing their own unique horrific sound. [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] are able to trace the signal of this "psychic attack" back to its source, and plans are quickly made to go and investigate.

The group all piles into the Rodpod: Rodimus, Magnus, the victims of the attack (Megatron, Tailgate, Rewind, Chromedome, Rung, and [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]), their partners and friends ([[Ten]], [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]], and [[Cyclonus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Cyclonus]]), "Team Rodimus" (Nightbeat, [[Skids (G1)|Skids]], [[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]], and Nautica), and team doctor Velocity, who is convinced by Mainframe to bring Whirl along for extra muscle. [[Quantum jump]]ing to the signal's point of origin, the pod materializes in utter blackness, which the team soon realize means they have jumped ''inside'' a huge, hollow object. One more small jump to the object's surface, and they discover they have returned to the [[Censere|Necrobot]]'s planet... but no sooner have they stepped out of the Rodpod than a squadron of attack craft suddenly appears in the skies and opens fire on them! Totally outnumbered, everyone boards the pod again and tries to quantum jump away, only to discover the teleport engines are dead. The team sets course for the Necrobot's fortress, but the Rodpod is shot down right in front of it; everyone manages to survive and haul themselves out of the wreckage before the Rodpod finally explodes.

Taking cover inside the fortress, the team discovers the Necrobot's dead body in the middle of the floor. While Ravage sneaks out to examine the single enemy fighter they managed to bring down during the escape, Nightbeat snaps into analytical mode, and he and Brainstorm piece together what has occurred: the "psychic attack" was originally an ordinary transmission sent by their attackers to lure the group to the planet, but the fatally-wounded Necrobot, with the last of his strength, corrupted the signal in a failed attempt to warn them off. Using the Necrobot's computer, Rodimus re-establishes contact with the ''Lost Light''... but is shocked when the 'bot who answers his hail turns out to be [[Getaway]]! The escapologist explains that he has been freed from his cell by the ''entire crew'', who have finally tired of Rodimus's leadership and the way in which Megatron has been accepted into their ranks, and are staging a full-blown mutiny. Getaway and [[Atomizer]] have been planning this since before the ship left Cybertron, having identified all "Megatron sympathizers" through judicious questioning and application of Getaway's [[nudge gun]], and have now isolated and trapped them on the Necrobot's world, so that the rest of the crew can ''actually get on with their quest'' to find the Knights and save the Cybertronian race. Even the mystery attackers are part of their plan—attackers whose identities Megatron has already figured out, making him severely doubt Getaway's promise that nobody but Megatron will be harmed. As Getaway shuts off the comm-link, a wounded Ravage limps back inside to confirm his leader's suspicions: the [[Decepticon Justice Division]] has arrived... and everyone is going to die.

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*[[Jetfire (G1)|Jetfire]] (2)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] (3)
*[[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] (4)
*[[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] (5)
*[[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] (6)
*[[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] (9)
*[[Red Alert (G1)|Red Alert]] (10)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (11)
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*[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] (24)
*[[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]] (25)
*[[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]] (26)
*[[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]] (27)
*[[Hot Rod/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] (28)
*[[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] (29)
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*[[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] (35)
*[[Crossblades (G1)|Crossblades]] (36)
*[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] (37)
*[[Brainstorm (G1)|Brainstorm]] (38)
*[[Hound (G1)|Hound]] (39)
*[[Xaaron]] (40)
*[[Grapple (G1)|Grapple]] (41)
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (42)
*[[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] (43)
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*[[Splashdown]]? (45) 
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*[[Getaway]] (50)
*[[Atomizer]] (51)
*[[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]] (52)
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*[[Misfire (G1)|Misfire]] (16)
*[[Spinister (G1)|Spinister]] (17)
*[[Fulcrum (G1)|Fulcrum]] (18)
*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (46)
*[[Tarn (DJD)|Tarn]] (55)
*[[Tesarus (DJD)|Tesarus]] (56)
*[[Helex (DJD)|Helex]] (57)
*[[Deathsaurus (Victory)|Deathsaurus]] (58)
*[[Blue Bacchus]] (59)
*[[Killbison]] (60)
{{!}}style="background:transparent; border-right: 0px" valign="top"{{!}}
*[[Drillhorn (Victory)|Drillhorn]] (61)
*[[Leozack]] (62)
*[[Guyhawk]] (63)
*[[Vos (DJD)|Vos]] (64)
*[[The Pet]] (65)
*[[Kaon (DJD)|Kaon]] (66)
{{!}}}
|c4=
*[[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]] (7)
*[[Scoop (G1)|Scoop]] (8)
*[[Rust Giant]]s (23)
*[[Cyclonus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Cyclonus]] (27)
*[[Ten]] (47)
*[[Censere]] (49)
}}

==Quotes==

"I was particularly impressed by '''your''' efforts, '''Riptide'''. You clearly put in a lot of work." 
"Did I pass?" 
"No, but I'll talk to you afterwards to explain why."
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Riptide''' on the latter's academic skills

"I'm not usually a '''fan''' of group discussion, or brainstorming, or waiting for other people to stop speaking, but that was actually pretty impressive."
:—'''Nightbeat''', on the benefits of talking out a problem

"'''Stress''' is another side effect of the chemo-sedatives." 
"It's not stress." 
"How do you know?" 
"Because I've never been happier."
:—'''Velocity''' and '''Megatron'''

'''Ultra Magnus:''' "Hold on. Someone '''fired on us''' and you want to '''run towards the gun'''?" 
'''Rodimus:''' "'''Yep'''—and '''disarm''' them before they take another shot. It's a perfectly good plan! '''Team Rodimus''' are well up for it!" 
'''Ultra Magnus:''' "'''Is''' well up for it. Team Rodimus '''is''' well up for it. Singular. One team." 
'''Rodimus:''' "Whatever. Chop-chop!" 
'''Megatron:''' "When did you first realize that he uses '''bad grammar''' to distract you whenever you raise an objection to something he wants to do?" 
'''Ultra Magnus:''' "He does '''WHAT'''?"

"This is the new '''teleport drive'''. Nautica built it as a '''thank-you present''' after I stopped going on and on about how much I wanted a teleport drive."
:—'''Rodimus'''

'''Rodimus:''' "I'm sorry if not all of us are catlike and unpanickable." 
'''Ultra Magnus:''' "Not a word." 
'''Rodimus:''' "Jeez, Magnus. Time and place." 
'''Ultra Magnus:''' "No, no, no. You can't have people throwing '''made up words''' around willy-nilly. There are impressionable 'bots on board." 
'''Brainstorm:''' "Magnus is right. Making up words leads to criminanarchy and pandebordination." 
'''Ultra Magnus:''' "Brainstorm! One more and you're on '''remand.'''"

"By what '''tortured logic''' did '''High Command''' conclude that letting an '''unrepentant mass murderer''' off the hook represented anything '''other''' than an '''insult''' to the memory of the '''billions''' he killed? Seriously—can someone explain to me how the war can end with the '''instigator''' being allowed to go about his business '''as if nothing happened'''? The death camps! The massacres! The cities razed to the ground! Apparently all of them were just '''missteps'''—painful but necessary—on Megatron's '''path to self-discovery'''! (...) By helping that '''maniac''' find peace you're excusing his past behavior. And so it falls to us—'''the 99%'''—to remind you how '''wrong''' this is. Forgiveness? Rehabilitation? Reintegration? No. Not him. Not now. Not ever."
:—'''Getaway'''

"I'm not a bad person. I just have strong beliefs."
:—'''Getaway'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Optimus and Jetfire are in the ''[[Skyroller]]'' when they receive the crew's message, outside [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]]'s "house," placing this story after the events of [[All Hail Optimus Part 1: Once Upon a Time on Earth|''The Transformers'' #50]].
*When Nightbeat delivers his part of the message, he talks about how he can prepare himself "this time," and strokes the centre of his forehead: a reference to when he died before, shot right through the head, in ''[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]''.
*Nightbeat requests his funeral ceremony be Neoprimalist, the sect of Primalism that [[Flywheels]] was noted to belong to in [[Rules of Disengagement (issue)|issue #7]].
*Magnus sputters as he tries to say the word "fun," just as he did back in [[How Ratchet Got His Hands Back|issue #5]], but this time, he finally gets it out.
*Rung requests that, should he die in alt mode, he be disassembled—an allusion to the mystery of his alternate form, and the fact that, whatever it is, it may still be able to serve its purpose after his death.
*Megatron mentions [[information creep]] during his class, the memory-altering mental malady mentioned before in [[Twenty Plus One|issue #31]]. In the same issue, it was established that Riptide was rubbish at exams, which is followed through on here as he fails his assignment in Megatron's class.
*The mysterious gear symbol raises its figurative head once again. Skids remembers how he saw it in [[Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|issue #21]], Thunderclash remembers seeing it in the map from his dreams in [[The Sensuous Frame|issue #41]], and Perceptor mentions that Rodimus drew it into his own map from [[The Not Knowing|issue #44]].
*Nautica recounts how she spent time on [[Troja Major]], where we know from [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|issue #28]] she picked up a copy of ''[[Towards Peace]]''. She says she visited a "heritage museum"; presumably, this is the business run by Decepticon antiquarian [[Agonizer]], mentioned in [[Some Of My Best Friends Are Autobots|issue #45]] as having set up shop on the planet.
*Rodimus brings "Team Rodimus" together again, who were last referred to by that name back in [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|issue #30]] when they assembled to examine the alternate-Rodimus's coffin.
*The crew previously visited the Necrobot's planet in issue #44. Back in that issue, the Necrobot described it as a "shell of a world," quoting his departed friend [[Tusk]]. That line suddenly becomes a lot more literal with this issue's revelation that the planet is hollow.
*Note how Magnus's right arm takes a bad hit during the explosion of the Rodpod. It's deliberately kept off-panel for the remaining portion of the issue, likely to obscure the fact that the arm has been completely severed—'cause remember, as we know from [[The Gloaming|issue #16]] and [[Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|issue #21]], that's the arm containing [[Tyrest (G1)|Tyrest]]'s recall switch/teleporter. No quick escapes with ''that'', Magnus!
*Brainstorm identifies the Necrobot's computers as using elements of the same technology as the guilt-detecting computer [[Aequitas]], from ''[[The Transformers: Last Stand of the Wreckers|Last Stand of the Wreckers]]'', which is why everyone who suffers from the "psychic attack" experiences a unique, tailor-made terror.
*The full extent of Getaway and Atomizer's scheme is revealed, tying back into their attempt to dispatch Megatron from [[The Lopsided Triangle|issue #47]], and Atomizer's manipulation of Rodimus from [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air|issue #29]]. They obviously arrange to have Mainframe suggest that Whirl accompany Team Rodimus not because he has any love for Megatron, like the rest of their victims, but because he turned against them in #47.
*Getaway also mentions the only real side effect from the nudge gun and its memory wipes is a slight headache. Sure enough, Skids and Nightbeat mention having inexplicable headaches off-hand in [[The Sensuous Frame|#41]] and [[The Not Knowing|#44]], respectively, while Tailgate had one in [[Our Steps Will Always Rhyme|issue #40]] that was ''implied'' to be the result of too much drink, but about which we now know better. Finally, to spell it out for us, Whirl was shown having a headache after being nudge-gunned in [[The Lopsided Triangle|#47]].
**In Tailgate's case, that revelation also implicitly tells us who ''really'' told Getaway about Tailgate's deathbed confession; not Cyclonus, as Getaway claims, but Tailgate himself, who then had the memory of telling Getaway erased.
*The Decepticon Justice Division allied with Deathsaurus's forces back in [[The Permanent Revolution|issue #39]]. 'Bots from that issue who appear among their team on the story's final page include Leozack, Killbison, Drillhorn, and Blue Bacchus.

===Real-life references===
*Both this multi-parter's title and this issue's sub-title are quotes from the poem "{{w|Do not go gentle into that good night}}," by {{w|Dylan Thomas}}. The work urges one to survive, to not willingly embrace death, to "Rage, rage against the dying of the light."
*The planet Miliarium takes its name from the Latin word for "milestone," in reference to the 50-issue milestone ''More than Meets the Eye'' has reached.
*Velocity's ringtone ("I'm a doctor, not a performance artist!") is, of course, a spoof of Doctor McCoy's catchphrase from the original ''[[Star Trek]]''. She notes it's a gift from Swerve, who has recently indulged himself in all of Earth's television, and refers to Velocity's decision to go into medicine rather than [[Caminus]]'s highly-venerated performing arts.
*Getaway calls Team Rodimus's trip a "journey into mystery," referencing the {{w|Journey into Mystery|Marvel comic}} of the same name.
*The concept of one small brave band of heroes facing down impossible odds as legions of enemies close in on their position, unable to retreat, is lifted from the movie ''[[Zulu]]''—which the crew were shown watching back in [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|issue #30]], in a bit of very deliberate foreshadowing. Swerve makes the reference explicit with his "Patients - '''thousands''' of 'em!" line.

===Errors===
*For his one-panel appearance, Scoop is his traditional orange, but he ought to be in [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicon]]-green these days, since becoming part of [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]], as seen in [[All That Remains|''Windblade'' #3]].
*Hard to spot in the rust giant throng on the left of the double-page title spread is [[Slamdance (G1)|Slamdance]], recognizable by his shoulder cannons, square-head-thing, and the treads on his upper arms, which he had when he appeared on Cybertron in issue #29. This is the first time we've seen him among the ''Lost Light'' crew—but he's colored almost entirely cream instead of his normal red and blue. Not unlike his [[Slamdance (SG)|''Shattered Glass'' counterpart]], actually!
*In Fortress Maximus's early appearance, his name is misspelled "Fotress". This has possibly been corrected in physical copies of the issue.
*The headline on the [[Galactic Bulletin]] reads "AUTOBOTS LIBERATE MIL'''L'''ARIUM".
*When Nightbeat discovers the Necrobot's body, his face is colored gray instead of yellow.
*In that same scene, Censere is misspelled "Censerre", with an extra R.
*In the group shot of the DJD and Deathsaurus's forces on the last page, Guyhawk is visible in the background, between Helex's legs, but he's colored grey and red with a green face, instead of his usual red and white.

===Other notes===
*The "story so far" page that opens this issue recaps the entire series, summing up each individual story or multiparter with a simple description: a schism ([[Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|''The Death of Optimus Prime'']]), an accident (issues [[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|#1]]-[[Liars, A to D Part 2: Hangers On|2]]), a sparkeater ([[Liars, A to D Part 3: The Chaos of Warm Things|issue #3]]), a virus (issues [[Life After the Big Bang|#4]]-[[How Ratchet Got His Hands Back|5]]), a hostage situation ([[Interiors|issue #6]]), an interlude (issues [[Rules of Disengagement (issue)|#7]]-[[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|8]]), a calling ([[Primus: You, Me, and Other Revelations|2012 annual]]), a ''Spotlight'' or two (''[[The Reluctant Specialist|Trailcutter]]'' and ''[[The Waiting Game|Hoist]]''), a story (issues [[Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|#9]]-[[Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|11]]), a mix-up ([[Before & After|issue #12]]), a night out ([[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|issue #13]]), a mistake ([[Remembrance Day|issue #14]]), a death ([[Under Cold Blue Stars|issue #15]]), a funeral ([[The Gloaming|issue #16]]), a lost moon ([[Remain in Light|issues #17-21]]), a diversion ([[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|issues #22-27]]), a trial (issues [[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace|#28]]-[[World, Shut Your Mouth Part 3: Predestination: A Beginner's Guide|30]]), an exodus ([[Twenty Plus One|issue #31]]), another ''Lost Light'' (issues [[slaughterhouse|#32]]-[[slaughterhouse Part 2: The Road Not Taken|33]]), a loss ([[Births, Deaths, and Interventions|issue #34]]), an alternate universe ([[The Custom-Made Now - An Elegant Chaos Prologue|issue #35]]), a race against time (issues [[Elegant Chaos Part 1: All Our Parlous Yesterdays|#36]]-[[Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide|38]]), an alliance ([[The Permanent Revolution|issue #39]]), a farewell ([[Our Steps Will Always Rhyme|issue #40]]), a reunion (issues [[The Sensuous Frame|#41]]-[[The Frail Gaze|42]]), a sitcom ([[The One Where They Go to Earth|issue #43]]), an epiphany ([[The Not Knowing|issue #44]]), another interlude (issues [[Some Of My Best Friends Are Autobots|#45]]-[[Animals|46]]), a betrayal ([[The Lopsided Triangle|issue #47]]), and a resignation (issues [[Speak, Memory: Part 1|#48]]-[[Speak, Memory! (Part 2)|49]]).
*Megatron notes that it has been about a year since the ''Lost Light'' left Cybertron after his trial, meaning that about 18 months (one year plus the six-month gap between "[[Dark Cybertron (IDW)|Dark Cybertron]]" and "season 2") have passed in the last two years' worth of comics.

===Crew manifest===
*Exiled: Brainstorm, Chromedome, Cyclonus, Megatron, Minimus Ambus, Nautica, Nightbeat, Ravage, Rewind, Rodimus, Rung, Skids, Swerve, Tailgate, Ten, Velocity and Whirl were effectively removed from the crew by Getaway's mutiny.

==External links==
*[http://www.newsarama.com/28256-megatron-seeks-redemption-in-transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-50-preview.html Preview]

Talk:Starship

2016-02-16T21:34:16Z

Phantom: /* Autobot ship? Aircraft carrier */ new section

The heck are the "Nemesis II" and "Nemesis III"? And the Ark II? - Monzo

The Ark II was the ship the Autobots used in their sabotaged attempt to return to Cybertron in Dreamwave Volume 1. Hell if I know what the other Nemesiseseses are. --[[User:ItsWalky]]

I've heard peaple refear to the ship built at the end of MTMTE as the Nemsis II, and the Unicronian ship in TFTM as the Nemisis III X-BoB58

I'm sure you've heard peopel refer to them as such, but QFAIK, there's NEVER been such an official name for them.

: I feel like this article would be better names Spacecraft.
: While Astrotrain does meet the technical requirements of being a starship (he travles between stars) I have a really hard time thinkign of a space shuttle as a starship. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 17:14, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The Angolmois-sucking Nemesis starship from Beast Wars II is typcially referred to as the Nemesis II, just to differentiate it from the G1 Nemesis. No clue what Nemesis III could be. --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 17:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Is there really another ship called Axalon in the Unicron Trilogy, or is that just a typo? Because this is the first I've heard of it. - [[User:Dark T Zeratul|Dark T Zeratul]] 22:02, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

:It's the Autobot spaceship they built on Earth int he last 3rd of Armada. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't we add the Star Wars starships from Crossovers? (Also, Buzz's ship from Disney Label.) - [[User:Cr85747|Cr85747]] 7:56, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

== Autobot ship? Aircraft carrier ==

So why is Flattop's "Aircraft carrier" listed under Autobot ships?

Talk:Speak, Memory: Part 1

2016-01-07T14:41:10Z

Phantom: /* Kindle & Fervor */

==Repeat Dialogue?==

Did anyone else notice this between pages 7-8? On page 7, when Skids mentioned he used to have a Matrix on his cheek, Froid responded, "''What happened? Did you lose your faith?''" On page 8, Velocity says the same thing to Cyclonus in panel 2, the second part of her three bubble dialogue at the bottom. I noticed it because it made almost no sense in context, unless it was a comment on the fan-theory connecting Tailgate's panic-burst to Cyclonus's spark energy curing his corata gravis. I have a print copy -- is it different in the digital copy? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 15:25, 24 December 2015 (EST)

==Tetrahex Ripper==

Just wanted to point out that Sunder could be a reference to the 1800's serial killer, Jack the Ripper. Jack the Ripper was believed to have been a surgeon. {{unsigned|Nobleboivin}}

== Two left hands? ==

On page 11-last panel, you can see Rung being drawn with two left hands. {{unsigned|THChrist}}

:Add it to the "Art and technical errors" section, then. Also, sign your posts by putting four tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:53, 29 December 2015 (EST)

== Kindle & Fervor ==

Are they meant to be based on anyone? They look like something you'd see in Brave -- [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 09:40, 7 January 2016 (EST)

Talk:Speak, Memory: Part 1

2016-01-07T14:40:32Z

Phantom: /* Kindle & Fervor */ new section

==Repeat Dialogue?==

Did anyone else notice this between pages 7-8? On page 7, when Skids mentioned he used to have a Matrix on his cheek, Froid responded, "''What happened? Did you lose your faith?''" On page 8, Velocity says the same thing to Cyclonus in panel 2, the second part of her three bubble dialogue at the bottom. I noticed it because it made almost no sense in context, unless it was a comment on the fan-theory connecting Tailgate's panic-burst to Cyclonus's spark energy curing his corata gravis. I have a print copy -- is it different in the digital copy? --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] ([[User talk:Xaaron|talk]]) 15:25, 24 December 2015 (EST)

==Tetrahex Ripper==

Just wanted to point out that Sunder could be a reference to the 1800's serial killer, Jack the Ripper. Jack the Ripper was believed to have been a surgeon. {{unsigned|Nobleboivin}}

== Two left hands? ==

On page 11-last panel, you can see Rung being drawn with two left hands. {{unsigned|THChrist}}

:Add it to the "Art and technical errors" section, then. Also, sign your posts by putting four tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> -[[User:Foffy the Sheep|Foffy the Sheep]] ([[User talk:Foffy the Sheep|talk]]) 20:53, 29 December 2015 (EST)

== Kindle & Fervor ==

Are they meant to be based on anyone? They look like something you'd see in Brave [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 09:40, 7 January 2016 (EST)

W.W.O.D.?

2015-10-08T18:56:01Z

Phantom: /* Real-world references */

{{episode|
|otherseries=''[[Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015 cartoon)|Transformers: Robots in Disguise]]'' (2015) ep 5
|image=RID2015-BumblebeecontactsOptimus.jpg
|caption="Is it a ghost?" 
"There's no such thing as ghosts, you donkey monkey! It's a robot ghost."
|prev=More than Meets the Eye (RID)
|next=As the Kospego Commands!
|title="W.W.O.D.?"
|airdate=[[March 1]], [[2015]] (Australia/NZ) [[April 18]], [[2015]] (USA)
|production company=[[Hasbro Studios]]
|writer=[[Guy Toubes]]
|animation studio=[[Polygon Pictures]]
|director=[[Todd Waterman]]
}}
'''Beleaguered Bumblebee must learn to lead in his own way as the team struggles to bring in a brutish Decepticon whose stasis pod has been discovered by human authorities.'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:WWOD Strongarm punching ball.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Poor girl, probably thinks beating it will cause coins to pop out of it.]]
[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] attempts to give a presentation on where they've found [[stasis pod]]s, though [[Fixit (RID)|Fixit]] becomes distracted by the idea that the location map resembles [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]]. While Bumblebee continues with his presentation, [[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] attempts to administer a wet willy to [[Strongarm (RID)|Strongarm]] and ends up face down on the ground. As the pair continue to fight, Bumblebee laments that he's not the leader [[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] was. He attempts to contact Optimus for advice by talking into some mirrors, however he gets no response. Meanwhile, Sideswipe scales a pile of junk, threatening to tip it onto Strongarm, and Bumblebee has to knock the cadet out of the way. The pile falls on him instead, adding to his misery. After digging himself out, Bumblebee decides what he needs to do is to try to emulate Optimus, however his attempt at an Optimus impression just results in his team falling about in laughter. Fixit reports he's detected a Decepticon signal, which [[Denny Clay|Denny]] backs up — a news report reveals that a stasis pod has been found by humans and is now housed in the [[Crown City Museum of Natural History and Sciences]] where scientists are working to open it. Denny comes up with a plan to infiltrate the museum, involving him posing as an archaeologist, and [[Russell Clay|Russell]] insists on coming too.

[[File:WWOD Nevada Flieber and McPlank.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Wang Fire pulled this off in a Fire Nation principal's office and this is the best you've got?!]]
Sometime later "Nevada Flieber, noted archeologist" is telling the museum staff that he's come with an important artifact to give them, and Russell hams it up as "McPlank". The staff are keen to take them on a tour. The Autobots haul up behind the museum, with [[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] covered in a tarp. Strongarm and Sideswipe shortly end up tangled up in the tarp and struggle with each other. Bumblebee pulls the tarp off shortly before Denny opens the loading bay door and pulls the fire alarm. The museum's staff and visitors evacuate, leaving the museum empty. Entering the building, the team stops to admire an Old West display, and Bumblebee gives an explanation that just leaves the others confused. He again tries to do an Optimus impression, but the rest of the team leaves to hunt for the stasis pod before he can finish. Denny turns around to find Russell is gone as well. Narrating his own adventures as "McPlank", Russell quickly finds the stasis pod, however it promptly breaks open, revealing a buffalo-shaped bot. The bewildered Decepticon says he was sent by [[Contrail]] to wise up a bot, and smashes through a nearby wall in search of an exit. Sideswipe finds them, but is smashed aside as [[Terrashock]] bounds off down a corridor. Sideswipe and Russell give chase, ending up at the loading bay where Bumblebee and Denny are waiting. Fixit fills the team in on Terrashock, the [[Buffaloid]] enforcer, and Bumblebee realizes they've got a problem on their hands. He again breaks out the Optimus impression to describe his plan to lure Terrashock to the museum's grand hall. No one is impressed.

[[File:WWOD head to head.jpg|thumb|left|250px|The collision triggered flashbacks to nearly ''every fight scene ever'' in ''Prime''.]]
Terrashock finds the cowboy display and mistakes an animatronic buffalo for another enforcer. Strongarm finds him stomping on it, but proves unable to stop him on her own. Terrashock then stumbles on the museum's planetarium and mistakes it for a transmitter. While he's disoriented by the star patterns, Grimlock attempts to head butt him, but comes off second best. Continuing to search for the outside world, Terrashock is confused by an audio-visual presentation on water and Sideswipe pounces on him, only to be thrown against a wall. In the main hall, Bumblebee is lamenting his lack of leadership skills when Terrashock bounds into view. Despite Bumblebee's attempt to catch him, the Decepticon head butts him through the front of the museum, transforms and drives off. Bumblebee picks himself up in front of a crowd of humans, however Denny and Russell cover for him by claiming he's an animatronic exhibit.

[[File:WWOD wrangling Terrashock.jpg|thumb|right|250px|We are gonna have ourselves one heaping Buffalo Burrito!]]
The trio head back into the museum where Bumblebee comms the others to tell them he's heading for the loading dock. Optimus puts in a ghostly appearance to talk to Bumblebee, and dispenses the advice that Bumblebee is not him, disappearing before he can clarify further. Russell suggests Bumblebee needs to lead like himself. Gazing at the cowboy exhibit gives Bumblebee an idea. Bumblebee joins the rest of his team at the loading dock and they head out to find Terrashock. The Decepticon is zooming down a nearby highway, yelling for Contrail when they catch up with him, and whooping like cowboys, they zigzag through the traffic to pull alongside him. He transforms and starts bounding along the other side of the road, until Bumblebee is able to nudge him back to the right-hand side. As they spot some low scaffolding ahead, Bumblebee hauls in front of Terrashock and slams on the brakes, sending the Buffaloid tumbling down an exit ramp before Grimlock does a cannonball, flattening him. To maintain the Autobots' cover, Russell gives an announcement suggesting to the stunned onlookers that it was a promotion for a stunt car rally. The victorious team, Terrashock loaded on Strongarm's trailer, heads off into the sunset.

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Bumblebee (WFC)|Bumblebee]] (1)
*[[Sideswipe (WFC)|Sideswipe]] (2)
*[[Fixit (RID)|Fixit]] (3)
*[[Strongarm (RID)|Strongarm]] (5)
*[[Optimus Prime (WFC)|Optimus Prime]] (10)

|c2=
*[[Grimlock (WFC)|Grimlock]] (4)
*[[Terrashock]] (9)

|c3=
*[[Denny Clay]] (6)
*[[Russell Clay]] (7)
*Museum staffers (8)

}}

==Quotes==

"That's the worst Starscream imitation ever!" 
:—'''Sideswipe''' does not have a high opinion of Bumblebee's Optimus act.

"No one puts Terrashock in a tiny box!"
:—'''Terrashock''' upon being freed.

"Hey, are you the bot that Contrail sent me to wise up?" 
"Prrrobably not?" 
"'Course you're gonna say that. What do you think I am? Stupid?" 
"Is that a trick question?"
:—'''Terrashock''' and '''Sideswipe'''

"[talking to an animatronic buffalo] What are you doing here? Did Contrail send you? He said I was his only enforcer." 
"No need to call the rest of the team for this genius." 
"Ain't nobody stealing my job!"
:—'''Terrashock''' worries about job security while '''Strongarm''' watches from afar.

"The museum's been working on some new animatronics! Watch! Hey, big guy! What's the density of mercury?" 
"The density of mercury is, uh, bzzt, error, bzzt, error."
:—'''Denny Clay''' tries the old [[Rescue Bot]] cover-up trick with '''Bumblebee'''.

"Cowboy Grimlock. I like the sound of that."
:—'''Grimlock'''

==Notes==

===Continuity errors===
*Shouldn't the Crown City fire department be responding to the fire alarm Denny pulls? If so, they're awfully slow!
*Several museum staff are standing on the museum steps when Bumblebee and Terrashock come crashing through the front door, but disappear by the time Bumblebee picks himself up.

===Continuity notes===
*Fixit makes a reference to [[Megatron (WFC)|Megatron]].
*Sideswipe thinks Bumblebee's Optimus impression is supposed to be [[Starscream (WFC)|Starscream]].
*Contrail appeared in ''[[Transformers: Exodus]]''.
*Optimus notes that he can only contact Bumblebee when the [[Thirteen|Primes]] believe his need is dire.

===Prisoner manifest===
* ''In stasis'': Underbite, Hammerstrike, Bisk, 4/5ths of Chop Shop, Terrashock
* ''On probation'': Grimlock
* ''Known at large'': Steeljaw, 1/5th of Chop Shop (possibly unknown to Bee)
* ''Countless others all missing, presumed at large''

===Real-world references===
*"W.W.O.D.?" is short for "What Would Optimus Do?", a reference to the popular "What Would [[Jesus]] Do?" meme which has previously been adapted for other famous characters.
*Russell and Denny's disguises are an obvious homage of [[w:Indiana Jones|Indiana Jones]] and Short Round.
*The episode's score features music patterned after the main themes of the [[W:Indiana Jones (franchise)|''Indiana Jones'' films]] and [[W:The Magnificent Seven|''The Magnificent Seven'']].

===Trivia===
*[http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4320054/?ref_=nm_flmg_anm_1 The Internet Movie Database] credits this episode under the title "A Day At The Museum", which is actually the French title for this episode.
*The first thirteen episodes of the series, this included, first premiered in Mandarin on Chinese streaming video site M1905.
*Nevada Flieber and McPlank's adventures include finding the Flengi Tribe in the lost city of Pantra, and recovering the Sammurabi idol from Cartagascar.

===Foreign localization===
'''Chinese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Zuò Zìjǐ'''" (做自己, "Do It Yourself")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[December 31]], [[2014]]

'''French'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Une journée au musée'''" ("A Day at the Museum")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[February 13]], [[2015]]

'''German'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Cowboys und Büffeljagd'''" ("Cowboys and Buffalohunt")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[April 24]], 2015

'''Hungarian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''A bikát a szarvánál fogva'''" ("[Take] The Bull by the Horns")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[March 20]], 2015

'''Italian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Che cosa farebbe Optimus?'''" ("What would Optimus do?")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[March 13]], 2015

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Bumblebee no Nayami'''" (バンブルビーの悩み, "Bumblebee's Dilemma")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[April 12]], 2015

'''Portuguese'''
:*''Original airdate:'' [[March 6]], 2015

'''Russian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Bit' liderom'''" (Быть лидером, "To be a leader")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[August 5]], 2015

==Home video releases==
*TBA

[[Category:Robots in Disguise (2015) episodes|Wwod]]

Talk:Earthfall Part 3: The Mind Bomb

2015-09-13T23:37:11Z

Phantom: Created page with "==Autobot Master Warriors?== Should it be noted that "Myskrion's partner" shares similarities with the Autobot Master Warriors(The 2 cat ones anyway)? ~~~~"

==Autobot Master Warriors?==
Should it be noted that "Myskrion's partner" shares similarities with the Autobot Master Warriors(The 2 cat ones anyway)? [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 19:37, 13 September 2015 (EDT)

Lil Formers

2015-09-01T18:10:10Z

Phantom: The comic in the link has been ended by its creator and now just goes to his toy blog. So i'm taking it off, as it makes no sense now.

[[Image:LilFormers_logo.png|right|250px|LilFormers logo.png]]
'''''Lil Formers''''' is a series of single-panel comic strips by the flesh creature [[Matt Moylan]] using [[super deformed]] artwork. Like other comics of a similar nature, its content often reflects the biases of its creator.

It is primarily published online and appears in the ''[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club (magazine)|Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club]]'' magazine, produced by [[Fun Publications]]. Although the strip began as a fan project, the strips which appear as part of the official content of the fan club magazine are considered to be [[Micro-continuity|some sort]] of [[canon]], at least for the purposes of this wiki.

As of strip #100, Lil Formers has expanded to cover a larger variety of pop culture properties, though Transformers strips still appear occasionally. When covering Transformers topics, it will decorate captions with either the [[Autobot]] or [[Decepticon]] logos depending on context. For non-Transformers comics, the captions are left plain.

As of strip #200, Moylan announced that he will no longer be publishing regular strips in lieu of other comic projects, but will maintain a semi-regular blog post with art, some of which may be Lilformers comics as they come to him.

==Publication history==
''Lil Formers'' strips were published in:

*[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 11]] - Two strips
*[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 12]] - Two strips
*[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 13]]
*[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 14]] - Casetticons
*[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 15]] - Movie Auditions, Redecos, Metroplex
*[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 17]] - Know your Seekers
*[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 18]] - Various Megatrons
*[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 20]] - ''Animated'' characters meet their Generation 1 counterparts.
*[[Hasbro Transformers Collectors' Club issue 21]] - ''Shattered Glass'' characters meet their Generation 1 counterparts.
*[[Spotlight: Wheelie]] - Two strips

==See also==

*[[Mini Mayhem!]]
*[[Superdeformers]]

==External links==
*[http://www.lilformers.com/home.php ''Lil Formers'' website]

[[Category:Comics]]
[[Category:Fun Publications]]

Talk:The Return of Optimus Prime, Part 1

2015-03-10T12:16:58Z

Phantom:

==Greggory?==
Is his name really spelled with two Gs in the middle? The one-G spelling is more common by a factor of {Google, Google} one hundred fifty-two times. [[User:JW|JW]] 14:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
: I believe that's how it's spelled in the script, IIRC. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::Wisdom received. [[User:JW|JW]] 16:29, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

::Can we confirm that and footnote it then? So future editors are not similarly confused? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 19:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::Script has one G, my good men. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::Ah, my instincts led me right. Thanks, fixed. [[User:JW|JW]] 21:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, I'm a doof. Now which crazily-named name from the scripts was I remembering? --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
::::::Was it the fact that his surname is "Swofford," rather than "Swafford"? Or was it "Fujiama"? - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 21:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

How did Rodimus act in lieu of caution? he seemed pretty cautious to me. He had a plan and everything.

==Megatron?==

Do we really need Two Continuity notes saying the same thing? [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 08:16, 10 March 2015 (EDT)

Talk:Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide

2015-03-05T19:38:19Z

Phantom:

== Tumblr??? ==

I'm all for "Other trivia" but this is "pointless trivia" and has not that much to do with the issue itself.

Are we gonna list what TF comics are posted on scans_daily too? [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 07:07, 5 March 2015 (EST)
:I think you maybe don't understand the significance of the note. It means that the comic was one of the most talked-about topics on the entire platform in the whole world yesterday. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] ([[User talk:Chris McFeely|talk]]) 10:18, 5 March 2015 (EST)
::And? Is this the first time that has happened with Transformers? Has it happened with other comics? The note as written lacks context. It does tend to come off as "people posted about something" rather than "HOLY SHIT! THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TRANSFORMERS!" --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 11:13, 5 March 2015 (EST)
::: Is the page going to have to explain the significance of trending topics like we'd have to explain the concept of Twitter to our grandparents? Because that's a little ridiculous. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] ([[User talk:ItsWalky|talk]]) 12:12, 5 March 2015 (EST)
::::No, but why is it relevant? So it was talked about a lot, so what? But if you tell me that no other comic has ever been a trending topic, I would find that interesting. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:23, 5 March 2015 (EST)
:::::I find it interesting. --[[User:Jimsorenson|Jimsorenson]] ([[User talk:Jimsorenson|talk]]) 12:29, 5 March 2015 (EST)
::::::Maybe a slight explanation of Tumblr is needed, then. Because the note as written just says to me that "people were talking" not "scads and scads of people were talking.... I mean, more than were talking about the death of the president!". The note, as written, just seems boring to me. Punch it up a little. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] ([[User talk:Khajidha|talk]]) 12:34, 5 March 2015 (EST)
:::::::Isn't it dependent on the user? Somebody who often looks at the Transformers tag will be more likely to see associated tags "trending", at least as I understand it. [[User:Saix|Saix]] ([[User talk:Saix|talk]]) 12:57, 5 March 2015 (EST)
:::::::Yeah good idea I think the page looks much better with this instead of the very basic "It was on Tumblr". [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 14:38, 5 March 2015 (EST)

Talk:Elegant Chaos Part 3: Predestination: An Expert's Guide

2015-03-05T12:07:49Z

Phantom: Created page with "== Tumblr??? == I'm all for "Other trivia" but this is "pointless trivia" and has not that much to do with the issue itself. Are we gonna list what TF comics are posted on ..."

Traitor (episode)

2015-03-04T18:18:26Z

Phantom: Undo revision 949929 by Khajidha (talk) It's fine the way it was.

{{episode
|series=G1toon
|ep=21
|series2=SRLFtoon
|ep2=13
|prev2=Changing Gears
|next2=Birth of the Transformers!
|image=Traitorcjaccusesmirage.jpg
|caption=J'accuse!
|title="Traitor"
|production code=#700-20
|airdate=[[September 27]], 1985
|written by=[[George Hampton]] [[Mike Moore]]
|production company=[[Sunbow Productions]]
|animation studio=[[Toei]]
|continuity=[[Generation 1 cartoon continuity]]
}}

'''Could Mirage have betrayed the Autobots?'''

==Synopsis==
[[File:Traitormegsgrabs.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Megatron got The Touch.]]

At the [[Experimental Energy Research Laboratory]], two scientists are working on the new [[electro-cell]]s that will hopefully solve [[Earth]]'s energy problems. Unfortunately, the cells won't be viable until they've been stabilized, which could result in a massive explosion. At that moment, [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] and [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] break through the roof and take the cells. [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] arrives to remove the cells carefully, as an explosion could be quite destructive, and the [[Seeker (body-type)|Seekers]] are not known for being gentle. Having taken the cells, Megatron [[Transformation|transforms]] and has Starscream fire away, destroying the lab to prevent any more from being created.

Meanwhile, [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] is tearing toward the [[Ark (G1)|Autobot base]]. Heading into the control room, he informs [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] that he's found where the [[Decepticon]]s have placed the electro-cells—in the same place [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] patrolled yesterday. Mirage is shocked that he didn't get a reading on them, and Cliffjumper says that maybe Mirage ''did''. Before any formal accusations are made, Optimus Prime politely tells Cliffjumper to shut up. The Autobot leader then leads a team to recover the cells.

[[File:Traitorcjsmacksmirage.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Seriously, who wouldn't this guy beat up?]]
At a canyon, the Decepticons have hooked up a buffer device to the cells. Starscream uses it as a chance to call Megatron a coward for not turning on the cells and filling [[energon cube]]s, then he activates it. The cells fill the cubes rather quickly, but just as quickly drain the cubes and explode. Megatron walks over to show Starscream the business end of his [[fusion cannon]].

As he does so, the Autobots arrive, but are spotted by [[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]], who tells [[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]]. Megatron orders Soundwave to call in the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]], with the promise of a special reward. A battle ensues, during which Mirage is injured by Skywarp, though he manages to tear off the Decepticon's [[insignia]]. The Insecticons then arrive, turning the tide of battle, but a stray shot by [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] hits the buffer, risking an explosion. The Autobots take the Decepticons' distraction as a chance to retreat.

[[File:Traitormiragepunches.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Mirage's attempts to mimick ''Animated''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s promotional material were less than successful.]]
At the base, Mirage is repaired, while Cliffjumper continues his accusations of treason. Mirage defends himself, and Optimus orders Cliffjumper on recon, with instructions to inform them if Megatron tries to move the cells. [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] tells Mirage to rest, but Mirage doesn't need rest. Leaving the base, he heads to the Insecticons' hideout, where they are discussing their "special reward"—two energon cubes. Going invisible and sneaking into the base, Mirage swipes the cubes while the Insecticons aren't looking, leaving the Decepticon insignia in their place, then drives to the valley. However, Cliffjumper spots him.

[[File:G1 Traitor Bombshell captures Mirage.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Do we really need to make a joke here?]]
Naturally assuming that Mirage is a Decepticon, Cliffjumper prepares to fire, only for the Insecticons to arrive. As Mirage slips away, Starscream discovers Cliffjumper, but the little guy is able to escape. Megatron comes to investigate, and they spot Mirage. They fire at him, but their lasers hit the ground near the Insecticons, who assume the Decepticons are firing at them. The Bugs and the Cons throw down, but Mirage is caught in the crossfire. [[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] implants a [[cerebro-shell]] into Mirage and has him fire on the Decepticons as well. Megatron sees Mirage, puts two and two together, and convinces the Insecticons to stop fighting the Decepticons. Megatron also plans to use Mirage for a little trap of his own.

Heading back to the base, Cliffjumper tells Prime what he saw. Optimus, Ratchet, and Cliffjumper head to the valley, where Mirage greets them and explains his original plan, saying that the Insecticons fled from the battle and the Decepticons chased after them. Despite Cliffjumper's warnings, the Autobots head to retrieve the cells, only for the Decepticons to ambush them, with Mirage joining in on the fire. Cliffjumper attacks Mirage, throwing him some distance, which apparently deactivates him.

[[File:Traitormegatronfails.jpg|left|upright=1.1|thumb|Should have done those shoelaces up, Megatron.]]
Bombshell commands Mirage to continue, but gives up. Ratchet then investigates and notices the cerebro-shell. Removing it allows Mirage to regain control, and he rejoins the fight—on the side of the Autobots. Prime makes a run for the cells, but Megatron concludes that if he can't have them, no one can. Firing randomly, he explodes the buffer device, sending the Decepticons everywhere possible as the Insecticons and Autobots retreat. Emerging from the wreckage, Megatron laments his hasty action.

[[File:Traitormirageholddscj.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|O dark poison of my spark...]]
As Prime informs the scientists of what happened, Ratchet works to repair Mirage, while Cliffjumper laughingly admits that he may need some repairs as well—for having doubted his friend. Awwww.

{{-}}

==Featured characters==
{{featuredcharacters
|c1=
*[[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]] (5)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]] (6)
*[[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] (7)
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (8)
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (9)
*[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] (10)
*[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] (11)
*[[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]] (14)
*[[Jazz (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Jazz]] (16)

|c2=
*[[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] (2)
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (3)
*[[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]] (4)
*[[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] (12)
*[[Soundwave (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Soundwave]] (13)
*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (15)
*[[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] (17)
*[[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] (18)
*[[Kickback (G1)|Kickback]] (19)
*[[Bombshell (G1)|Bombshell]] (20)
*[[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]] (21)

|c3=
* Scientists (1)
}}

==Quotes==
"I just ''love'' opening presents."
:—'''Skywarp''' as he breaks through the roof of a human research institute

"You fool! You'll destroy us all!" 
"Destroy us all, oh brave Megatron? Perhaps it's time the Decepticons looked elsewhere for direction, to someone prepared to make command decisions!"
:—'''Megatron''' and '''Starscream''' argue over who is a better leader. Again.

"This time, you have dared too much, Starscream. You must pay the price for your insolence!"
:—'''Megatron''' threatens to terminate Starscream. Again.

"Try and remember which side you're on, Mirage." 
"Keep your mind on the Decepticons, Cliffjumper." 
"That's just what I'm doing!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' reprimands '''Cliffjumper''' for his suspicions.

"An electrocell! Come to papa..." 
"Not so fast, papa!"
:—'''Cliffjumper''' and '''Starscream''' have a moment.

"Release the electro-cells, Megatron. They don't belong to you." 
"I possess them. Therefore I ''own'' them!"
:—'''Optimus Prime''' and '''Megatron''' discuss the finer points of legal ownership

"Uh-oh. Sounds like I'm not alone." 
"You're not! And this is one of those times when you really need a friend."
:—'''Cliffjumper''' and '''Starscream''' have another moment.

"You wouldn't cheat us. You need us to get rid of the Autobots. Maybe after that, you'd rob us blind. But not now!"
:—'''Bombshell''' after hearing Megatron's explanation of Mirage's trickery

==Notes==
===Animation or technical errors===
* Shrapnel's characteristic speech quirk of repeating the last word in each sentence is absent from several of his early lines.
[[File:Traitorlotsostarscreams.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right...]]
* Coloring errors:
** Starscream and Skywarp both have their entire canopy cowlings colored yellow as Megatron hands off the electrocells to Skywarp. Both should have a metal-colored bit near the bottom. The same error occurs as Starscream steps away from his test of the electrocells.
**When Megatron is rushing to put out the fire on the electro-cells, there are two Starscreams beside him. One is probably supposed to be Skywarp, who was shown standing there in the preceding shot.
** Kickback's eyeband is black instead of red as he observes the fallen Skywarp.
** Ratchet's face is white instead of light gray as he laughs in the closing shot.
* Is that glowing pink stuff behind Megatron (after he blows up the energy institute) supposed to be fire? 'Cause fire don't look like that.
* The animators could never really decide what the back end of the Ark looks like, but it almost always has at least three engines. The first shot of Autobot Headquarters shows it with only two. It has three a few moments later.
* As Megatron turns toward the about-to-explode electro-cells, Starscream is behind him, despite being nowhere in evidence a second earlier.
* Ironhide is not shown retreating with the other Autobots.
* As Prime orders Cliffjumper to maintain surveillance of the electro-cells, a closeup shot shows the two of them at the same head height. Prime should be ''much'' taller than Cliffjumper.
* The Decepticon insignia that plays such a vital role in the plot appears to be printed on a piece of cloth, despite coming from a metal robot. It unfurls and rustles when released, and gently floats to the ground when dropped. There's also no visual evidence that Skywarp is missing an insignia at any point (pretty amazing, considering how often the animators tended to [[The Core|forget the Seekers' wing insignia]]).
* The Insecticons are standing right by their energon cubes when Mirage first arrives. When Mirage steals the cubes a second later, the room is unoccupied.
* Starscream's stray shot as he gets rammed by Cliffjumper has no sound effect.
* Shrapnel has the wrong voice, without the electronic processing, as he observes that the Decepticons are firing on them. them. He does have his last-word echo, however! however.
* As Skywarp's arm reaches into the frame to aim at Kickback, the screen-side edge of it is missing!
* When Thundercracker gets hit by Mirage's missile, the cry of pain sounds more like Skywarp. Considering that the episode so far has very explicitly featured only Starscream and Skywarp, Thundercracker's appearance would almost seem to be a coloring mistake, but all three jets finally appear together near the episode's end. (Even without this hit, Skywarp suffers a huge amount of abuse in this episode.)
*While driving away from the electro-cell explosion, Optimus Prime's cab appears ridiculously small compared to his trailer.

===Continuity errors===
* As usual, cartoon humans are pretty much made of rubber. The two scientists fall at ''least'' fifty feet from the electrocell module, but recover almost instantly.
* Despite [[Fire in the Sky|being a scientist]], Starscream doesn't believe that any experimentation is needed with the cells. He apparently [[Kremzeek!|used up all his patience with tests]] back in "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 3]]".
* Cliffjumper is very quick to accuse Mirage of treachery, despite never showing any signs of mistrusting him before—e.g., "[[More than Meets the Eye, Part 2]]".
* Megatron's awfully quick to declare that Optimus Prime has lost. They haven't even fired shots at each other yet! Prime repays the favor at episode's end, rather randomly declaring that Megatron has lost.
* While observing the Decepticon installation, Cliffjumper loses track of Mirage when the latter turns invisible, despite looking straight at a clear trail of Mirage's footprints.
* Appearing/disappearing Autobots:
** Ratchet isn't among the Autobots leaving Autobot Headquarters, but he arrives at the electrocell site with Prime and company. Jazz shows up a moment later. Bluestreak and Prowl, meanwhile, have disappeared.
** After the second commercial break, the only Autobots shown are Prime, Ratchet, Cliffjumper and Mirage. This strangely small casting choice becomes especially noticeable during the semi-final battle, when all four are gathered together, talking and not firing, yet the sounds of a raging firefight can still be heard in the background! Prime orders the trio to "join the others", perhaps implying that more Autobots should have been shown, but again, no other Autobots are anywhere in sight. At the final battle's end, the three Autobots somehow leave the battle to surround Megatron, leaving nobody to fight the rest of the Decepticons!
* The scientists' voices are inconsistent when comparing their scene at the end to the one at the start. Most noticeable is the fact that the fat one has a British accent at first, which has become American by the end.

===Real world references===
* ''[[Star Wars (franchise)|Star Wars]]'' sound effects:
** The two energon cubes land in Mirage's driver seat to the sound of a [[lightsaber]] cutting through the air.
** The sound of lightsabers dueling can be heard in the first few seconds of the scene immediately after the one where Mirage is freed from the cerebro-shell.
* Megatron seems to understand human law well enough to reference the legal concept that "Possession is nine-tenths of the law"

===Continuity notes===
* Gadgets and powers:
** Shrapnel makes use of his grenade launcher that fires spikes all around the target. It's nasty, as Mirage can attest. The animators got a little confused, though, and had him fire it as a spike-studded stream of liquid from his retracted hand socket, rather than from his hand held gun (as more correctly seen in "[[The Insecticon Syndrome]]".)
** Shoulder missiles: Mirage fires his shoulder launcher twice in this episode, each time blowing away one of the Seekers. It's only [[Countdown to Extinction (episode)|the second]] but not [[Masquerade |the last]] time he uses this prominent weapon.
* Where's the trailer go?
** When Prime transforms to retreat, his trailer is already behind him, waiting for him, despite being nowhere in evidence in the preceding shots.

===Trivia===
[[File:Traitor CliffjumperlovesMirage.jpg|right|upright=1.1|thumb|WTF?]]
* Poor [[Reflector (G1)|Reflector]]. He (they?) doesn't (don't?) appear until the end of the battle, just long enough to be blown away by the explosion of the electro-cells.
* This episode ends with Cliffjumper jumping in Mirage's lap, and the two of them hugging and rolling over, while Ratchet laughs. This is the epitome of weird.
* This is not the only time that [[Mirage (RID)|a Mirage]] has been suspected of [[Mirage's Betrayal|treachery]]. In fact, this episode's Cliffjumper-Mirage dynamic is among the series' best-remembered aspects, coloring fans' perceptions of both characters and being obliquely referenced time and again in contemporary Generation 1 stories.

===Foreign localization===
'''Brazilian'''
:*''Title:'' "'''O Traidor'''" ("The Traitor")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Italian'''
:*''Title (dub 1):'' "'''Mistero è un traditore'''" ("Mirage Is a Traitor")
:*''Title (dub 2):'' "'''Il traditore'''" ("The Traitor")
:*''Original airdate:'' ?

'''Japanese'''
:*''Title:'' "'''Ligier no Uragiri'''" (リジェの裏切り, "Ligier's Betrayal")
:*''Original airdate:'' [[September 28]], [[1985]]

{{-}}

==Home video releases==
{{homevidnote}}
;[[Wikipedia:LaserDisc|LaserDisc]]
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1994 — ''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' — Convoy Set ([[TakaraTomy|Takara]]) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 1998 — ''The Transformers'' — Autobot Edition ([[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Pioneer LDC]]) — Japanese audio only.
;DVD
[[File:Flag of Japan.png|20px|Japan]] 2001 — ''The Transformers'' — DVD Box 1 (Pioneer LDC) — Japanese audio only. 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 1 ([[The Original Transformers|Rhino Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2002 — ''The Original Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 1: Vol. 1 (Rhino Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2003 — ''Transformers'' — Season 2 Part 1 ([[Metrodome]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Bumper Collection Special (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2004 — ''Transformers'' — Collection 2: Series 2.1 ([[Madman Entertainment]]) 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2006 — ''Transformers'' — The Complete Generation One Collection (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2007 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of Italy.png|20px|Italy]] 2008 — ''Transformers'' — Volume 03: Stagione Due Parte Prima ([[Medianetwork Communication]]) — English and Italian audio. 
[[File:Flag of UK.png|20px|United Kingdom]] 2009 — ''Transformers'' — Season Two: Part One (Metrodome) 
[[File:Flag of Australia.png|20px|Australia]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Complete Collection: Decepticon Edition (Madman Entertainment) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — Season Two, Volume One: 25th Anniversary Edition ([[Shout! Factory]]) 
[[File:Flag of USA.png|20px|United States of America]] 2009 — ''The Transformers'' — The Complete Series: 25th Anniversary "Matrix of Leadership" Collection (Shout! Factory)

==External links==
*[http://cybertronchronicle.freewebspace.com/cartoon-dossier/synopses/traitor.html Dossier at the Cybertron Chronicle]

[[Category:The Transformers episodes]]

User:Phantom

2015-03-04T16:45:17Z

Phantom:

Traitor (episode)

2015-03-04T16:43:44Z

Phantom: /* Continuity notes */ Next time try watching the episode (It helps)

Talk:Main Page

2014-12-16T18:44:46Z

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2014-07-28T16:57:32Z

Phantom:

Slug (AOE)

2014-07-28T16:50:15Z

Phantom: /* Generations */ This one two.

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{{disambig3|Slug}}
:''Slug is a [[Dinobot (AOE)|Dinobot]] from the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (franchise)|Age of Extinction]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity]].''

[[File:AOE Triceratops concept.jpg|thumb|right|400px]]
'''Slug''' doesn't like you and he doesn't like your face. Don't bother trying to give him orders, unless they involve head-butting an opponent into next week. And don't bother trying to make peace with him, because he wants a fight and he's going to start a fight. On your face.

==Fiction==
===''How to Ride your Dinobot'' cartoon===
Slug and [[Drift (ROTF)|Drift]] had cornered [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]] inside an old barn, but Drift's lack of experience in fighting alongside his steed ensured it was a long day. Surprisingly, Slug had dozens of mundane services built into his body, including a toilet plunger, a yo-yo, and a coffee maker. Drift had all these deployed in his struggle to activate the weaponry. After an exasperating period of trial-and-error, Drift finally activated Slug's weaponry... but fried himself with it. Slug could only sigh in annoyance.
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===''Age of Extinction'' film===
{{spoiler|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|July 28}}
Slug was among the Dinobots trapped aboard [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]'s ship until the Autobots detached that section for their own uses. When the smaller ship was shot down and crashed in the Wulong Valley near [[Hong Kong]], [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus]] freed the Dinobots, demanding they aid him against [[Galvatron (AOE)|Galvatron]] and the Creators who wished to destroy them all. Though he initially had to be held back by [[Grimlock (AOE)|Grimlock]], Slug yielded to Optimus' charge when Grimlock was bested in combat. Slug allowed [[Drift (ROTF)|Drift]] to ride him into battle, where Slug's ferocity and durability proved a great asset against Galvatron's forces. After defeating the Decepticons, Slug helped escort the Seed to a safe location, but was briefly hampered by Lockdown's return with a magnetic vortex until Optimus destroyed it. Slug aided in holding the line so Joshua Joyce could escape with the Seed until Lockdown was defeated by Optimus and their human allies. The day won, Slug and his fellow Dinobots parted on good terms with the Autobots.
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==Toys==
====Robots in Disguise====
[[Image:AoE dino sparker Drift and Slug.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"How do you start a Triceratops?"]]
*'''Autobot Drift & Dinobot Slug''' (Dino Sparkers, 2014)

: Part of the first wave of [[Dino Sparkers]], this toy is a friction-motor dinosaur cast in semi-translucent plastic. When rolled along, [[sparking gimmick|"cold" sparks]] flash inside the dino's back end. Affixed to Slug's back is a simplified figure of [[Drift (ROTF)|Drift]] wielding one hella-long sword.

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[[File:AoE 1-step Slug.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Dinobot Slug''' (One Step Changers, 2014)

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[[File:AoE Power Battler Slug.jpg|thumb|right|300px]]
*'''Dinobot Slug''' (Power Battlers, 2014)
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====Generations====
[[File:Generationsdeluxeclassslug.jpg|right|300px|thumb|]]
*'''Dinobot Slug''' (Deluxe 2014)
**''Series'': '''M4: #003'''
**''Japanese ID number:'' '''AD07'''
**''Accessories:'' 2 swords

: Part of the initial wave of ''Age of Extinction'' "Generations" Deluxes, Slug transforms from a medieval-looking robot into a robotic ''Triceratops'' with an opening jaw. His lower jaw and swords are cast in soft plastic. In beast mode, his twin swords "store" on the sides of his belly and stick outward. His robot mode helmet is a stechhelm, a type of great helm worn by knights on horseback.

:Slug is slightly mis-transformed in the stock photos. His tail section can be folded up against the gray-colored part that forms his dinosaur mode's back, and ''that'' can be folded at an angle to give a slightly tidier robot mode.

:The Takara release of the toy features slightly different paint applications.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/2014/Autobot/Slug/slug.htm More information on ''Generations'' Deluxe Slug at TFU.info]''

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[[File:AoE Wal-Mart 2-pack scout Slug.jpg|right|300px|thumb]]
*'''Dinobot Slug vs. Decepticon Stinger''' (Legion two-pack, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' Tail/launcher, 2 missiles

: This bizarre iteration of Slug is a purple redeco of ''[[Super Lifeform Transformers: Beast Wars Neo (toyline)| Beast Wars Neo]]'' [[Guiledart#Toys|Guiledart]], transforming into an organic ''Triceratops''. He has a "third" mode that's supposed to look like a dead, decomposing ''Triceratops''. His beast-mode tail detaches to become a spring-loaded missile launcher, plus his dino forelegs have flip-out (non-firing) blasters for robot mode.

: This version was available only in a [[Walmart]] [[exclusive]] two-pack with a [[Cyberverse]] Legion-class version of [[Stinger (AOE)#WalmartVsSlug|Stinger]].

: This mold was [[redeco]]ed as ''[[Beast Machines: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Machines]] [[Dinobot (BM)|Dinobot]]'' [[Triceradon (BM)#Toys|Triceradon]] and the Walmart-[[exclusive]] ''[[Transformers: Dinobots|Dinobots]]'' [[Triceradon (Dinobots)|Triceradon]]. It was also [[retool]]ed as the ''Styracosaurus'' [[Killer Punch#Toys|Killer Punch]].
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*'''Dinobot Slug''' (Evolution 2-Pack, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' 2 swords

: Available only at [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] stores in the US, UK and Canada, this two-pack features the "Generations" Deluxe Slug toy, with no known differences from the normal retail release, packed with a "[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]" iteration of the original character [[Slag (G1)#Mini-Con|Slag]] (also named "Slug" here)... which is just a seemingly-unchanged re-release of the ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)| Dark of the Moon]]'' Mini-Con [[Triceradon (DOTM)|Triceradon]]. Go figure.

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*'''Slug G1 Color''' (Deluxe, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' 2 swords

: This version of Slug is done up with a distinctly Generation 1 Slag color scheme, complete with silver chromed bits. It was available only at the Japanese [[Transformers Expo]] show in Yokohama on [[August 9]] 2014, but could only be obtained there with a 6000yen pre-purchase ticket from Lawson stores, first made available on [[April 25]]th.
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*'''Black Knight Slug''' (Deluxe, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' 2 swords

: Another redeco of deluxe class Slug, this time in a predominantly black colour scheme, '''Black Knight Slug''' is another Takara [[exclusive]] to Joshin Limited and Yodobashi.
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====Construct-Bots====
:*''See: '''[[Slug (Construct-Bots)]]'''''

====Kre-O====
:*''See: '''[[Slug (Kre-O)]]'''''

[[Category: Age of Extinction Autobots]]
[[Category: Convention exclusives]]
[[Category: Dinobots]]
[[Category: Knights]]
[[Category: Wal-Mart exclusives]]

Strafe (AOE)

2014-07-28T16:49:47Z

Phantom: /* Generations */ The UK gets it.

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{{disambig3|Strafe}}
:''Strafe is a [[Dinobot (AOE)|Dinobot]] from the [[Transformers: Age of Extinction (franchise)|Age of Extinction]] portion of the [[live-action film series]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:AOE Pteranodon concept.jpg|thumb|right|450px|Pterosaurs can sting too, okay [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]]?]]

You'd be forgiven if upon seeing '''Strafe''' appear on the battlefield, you had some sort of embarrassing evacuation. After all, a gigantic, two-headed ''Pteranodon'' swooping down on you would shake the toughest minds. Yet Strafe is an interesting contradiction in terms. A powerful and merciless warrior on the field, off of it Strafe is one of the most friendly and approachable individuals you're ever likely to meet. Strafe is very good friends with Bumblebee.

==Fiction==
===''How to Ride your Dinobot'' cartoon===
Strafe found himself the unwilling target for [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee's]] first Dinobot riding lesson. Strafe ensured the Autobot had a rough first lesson, flying out of his reach for the majority of the time while trying to feed on scrap metal. Bumblebee laid a trap for Strafe with a tasty gear, and finally held onto a rope that had snared around his leg... but Strafe happily flew Bumblebee into a mountain's wall. Bumblebee seemed to have learned not to mess with Strafe, since he destroyed the Dinobot-riding instruction manual and quit listening to that maddeningly unhelpful narrator.

{{storylink|Getting on a Dinobot}}

===''Age of Extinction'' film===
{{spoiler|Transformers: Age of Extinction (film)|July 28}}
[[File:AOEStrafeandBumblebee.jpg|thumb|right|400px|"Somewhere else, Swoop is crying"]]
Strafe was among the Dinobots freed from [[Lockdown (ROTF)|Lockdown]]'s ship, and subsequently yielded to [[Optimus Prime (Movie)|Optimus Prime]]'s command. During the battle in Hong Kong, Strafe aided [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] as he battled [[Stinger (AOE)|Stinger]]. The two fought on Strafe's back until Stinger was defeated, and Strafe got to munch on Stinger's head. Strafe aided in escorting the Seed to safety until Lockdown returned and unleashed his magnetic vortex upon the group. Though he briefly freed [[Slug (AOE)|Slug]] from the vortex, the Dinobots were trapped in it again until Optimus destroyed it. Strafe helped hold the line on a bridge until the Seed was transported to safety and Lockdown was defeated. The battle over, Strafe and the Dinobots were freed from Optimus' command and parted on good terms with their new allies.
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==Toys==
===Age of Extinction===
====Robots in Disguise====
[[File:AOE PowerBattlers Strafe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Yeah, but "Kaijubots" just doesn't have the same ring to it.]]
*'''Dinobot Strafe''' (Power Battlers, 2014)
:Part of the initial wave of Power Battlers, Strafe features a simple transformation from a mechanical, two-headed ''Pteranodon'' into a robot. In robot mode, squeezing Strafe's legs together causes him to rotate at the waist for a spin attack.
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[[Image:AoE dino sparker Bumblebee and Strafe.jpg|thumb|right||300px]]
*'''Bumblebee & Dinobot Strafe''' (Dino Sparkers, 2014)

: Part of the first wave of [[Dino Sparkers]], this toy is a friction-motor pterosaur cast in semi-translucent plastic. When rolled along, [[sparking gimmick|"cold" sparks]] flash inside the creature's back end. Affixed to Strafe's back is a simplified figure of [[Bumblebee (Movie)|Bumblebee]] wielding one hella-long sword.
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*'''Dinobot Strafe''' (One-Step Changers, 2014)
:Part of the fourth wave of One-Step Changers, Strafe transforms from robot to ''Pteranodon'' in a single step.
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====Generations====
[[File:AoE deluxe Strafe.jpg|thumb|right|300px|"Look, to get the cool shoulder armor I have to use a two-headed ''Pteranodon'' mode, okay?"]]
*'''Dinobot Strafe''' (Deluxe, 2014)
*''Series'': '''M4: #005'''
**''Accessories:'' Crossbow/launcher, missile, 2 swords

: "Generations" Strafe is a more complex and less [[gimmick]]-focused version of Strafe than the "Robots in Disguise" toy. Strafe transforms into a twin-headed ''pteranodon'' monster. Like all the other DInobots, Strafe's design is based on medieval knights. Twin swords peg onto his wings, and the swords can also be hand-held in robot mode. He also comes with a pressure-launch missile-firing "crossbow". Pegs on the crossbow allow the swords to attach and create a larger weapon. Both the crossbow and the swords seem to stem from unused concept art, as seen in this page. His tails are made of soft rubber, but due to his packaging, they are almost always bent at an extreme angle out of the package. This can be fixed by soaking the rubber in hot water and then correcting the bends.

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*'''Dinobot Strafe''' (Evolution 2-Pack, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' Crossbow/launcher, missile, 2 swords

: Available only at [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] stores in the US, UK and Canada, this two-pack features the "Generations" Deluxe Strafe toy, with no known differences from the normal retail release, packed with a "[[Generation 1 (franchise)|Generation 1]]" iteration of the original [[Strafe (G1)#Age of Extinction|Strafe]]... yes, thet actually used art of ''[[Technobot (G1)|Technobot]] Strafe''... which is just a seemingly-unchanged re-release of the ''[[Transformers: Dark of the Moon (toyline)| Dark of the Moon]]'' Mini-Con [[Rav (DOTM)|Rav]].

: We're as confused as you are, folks.

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*'''Bumblebee with Dinobot Strafe vs. Decepticon Stinger''' (3-pack, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' Crossbow/launcher, missile, 2 swords

: Another [[Toys"R"Us|ToysЯUs]] [[exclusive]] pack, this is ''again'' the "Generations" Deluxe Strafe toy, with no known differences from the normal retail release, only this time he's packaged in a box with [[Cyberverse]] versions of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#TRUStrafeBeeStingerPack|Bumblebee]] (repainted from his ''Revenge of the Fallen'' Legends class toy) and [[Stinger (AOE)#TRUStrafeBeeStingerPack|Stinger]] (a repaint of Transformers: ''Prime'' Legion class [[Knock Out (Prime)|Knock Out]]).
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[[File:AoE Wal-Mart 2-pack scout Strafe.jpg|right|300px|thumb|There, one head. [[GEEWUN|Ya happy now!?]]]]
*'''Bumblebee & Dinobot Strafe''' (Legion two-pack, 2014)
**''Accessories:'' Submachine gun

: This bizarre entry is a redeco of ''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (toyline)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Terrorsaur (BW)#Toys|Terrorsaur]], a mold ''nearly 20 years old at this point''. He transforms from an organic ''Pteranodon'' to robot mode with a [[autotransformation|spring-loaded one-step transformation]]. A small gun stores in his robot mode back which can be removed, unfolded, and pegged into his robot mode fist.

: He was only available as part of a [[Walmart]] [[exclusive]] set with a [[Cyberverse]] Legion-class version of [[Bumblebee (Movie)/toys#WalmartCyberverse2pk|Bumblebee]].

: This mold was also used for Terrorsaur, [[Fractyl#Toys|Fractyl]], [[Lazorbeak#Toys|Lazorbeak]], [[Hydra (BWN)#Toys|Hydra]], and [[Terranotron (Dinobots)|Terranotron]].
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====Construct-Bots====
:*''See: '''[[Strafe (Construct-Bots)]]'''''

====Kre-O====
:*''See: '''[[Strafe (Kre-O Dinobot)]]'''''
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==Notes==
*According to ''Transformers'' Manager of Global Brand Development Mark Weber at New York [[Toy Fair 2014]], Strafe is named so not because of [[trademark]] reasons, but because the film's two-headed design was considered too great a departure from previous [[Swoop (disambiguation)|Swoop]] characters.

[[Category: Age of Extinction Autobots]]
[[Category: Dinobots]]
[[Category: Knights]]

User:Phantom

2014-05-03T17:38:13Z

Phantom:

I was the one who saw:

*Warpath was drawn as his Generations toy in RID#4.

*Sky Lynx can fit inside Maccadam's Old Oil House in RID#5.

*Fixit is not a Micromaster in IDW

*Jetstorm never said "Now"

*Spotlight: Trailcutter was being made.

*Starscream has his War for Cybertron body in Spotlight: Bumblebee

*In the Story So Far section of MTMTE#15 Decepticon is misspelt Deceoticon.

*That what happen in Spotlight: Thundercracker was not updated on Barrage's page.

*That what happen in Spotlight: Thundercracker was not updated on Venom's page.

*That what happen in Spotlight: Thundercracker was not updated on Chop Shop's page.

*That what happen in Spotlight: Thundercracker was not updated on Blitzwing's page.

*That IDW comics had not been added to the Schedule (04/04/13)

*Rung has a model Starhopper in MTMTE#28

World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace

2014-05-03T17:37:01Z

Phantom: /* Transformers references */

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|next=World, Shut Your Mouth Part 2: Words Hang in the Air
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|title="World, Shut Your Mouth Part 1: Towards Peace"
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|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[April 30]], [[2013]]
|coverdate=April 2014
|written by=[[James Roberts]]
|art by=[[Alex Milne]]
|colors by=[[Josh Burcham]]
|letters by=[[Tom B. Long]]
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|editor=[[John Barber]]
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'''The ''Lost Light'' has some new faces aboard, including a brand new captain... Megatron! But how did the fearsome former Decepticon's trial lead to him joining the crew, and why have things started to disappear all around the ship?'''

==Synopsis==

Six months have passed since the defeat of [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]], his attempt to fulfill the [[Dark Cybertron]] prophecy thwarted, and the ''[[Lost Light]]'' is back out among the stars. New crewmember [[Nautica]] returns from a visit to the fuel furnace, where the [[Pyrobot]]s are angry over some missing [[nucleon]] rods, and resumes her conversation with [[Brainstorm]], though she expresses some doubt in his idea for guns that shoot color-coded lasers which can tell if their wielder is "good" or "bad". As they pass by [[Rung (G1)|Rung]]'s quarters, they observe several of the crew listening at the door, which Brainstorm explains is because their captain is receiving his first session with the psychiatrist. Their captain... [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]!

''Six months ago, back on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]] arrives late to a meeting called by [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]], eager to get back aboard the ''Lost Light'' and off on their quest once again, only to be informed that nobody is going anywhere until the captive Megatron is put on trial in accordance with the public's wishes, during which Optimus himself will sit in judgement in the absence of a [[Chief Justice]]. Starscream and [[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]] show signs of uneasiness at a military trial, but Optimus points out the precedents of the [[Phobos]] and [[Desecrus]] trials. [[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]], meanwhile, is disgusted with the whole idea of a trial, seeing it as pointless and urging for an execution, but brightens when he is appointed prosecutor; [[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]] is less enthused at speaking for the defense, but accepts the assignment quietly.''

''After the meeting ends, Optimus finally takes some time to catch up with Rodimus, and learns the disheartening news about the destruction of Rodimus's half of the Matrix. Rodimus explains that he is planning to continue his quest without the map the Matrix had held by seeking out [[Thunder Clash|Thunderclash]], who has professed to have had dreams that are leading him to the [[Knights of Cybertron]]. He also admits that he is worried about the great Autobot after recent attempts to reach him have failed, so Optimus takes him aside to show him a way that can hopefully expedite Megatron's trial and get him back on-mission quickly.''

Two hours into his session with Rung, Megatron is growing tired of the therapist's analysis of his [[fusion cannon]], so Rung takes a different tack, requesting that he describe some of the most significant encounters in his life. As [[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] quietly listens from below the desk, Megatron describes how he met Rung himself, prompting Rung to consult what he describes as the only surviving original, unaltered copy of Megatron's own autobiography, "Towards Peace", to match up the dates. He asks a question about the work's history—namely, why Megatron removed a dedication to someone named "[[Terminus (G1)|Terminus]]" from a later edition of the book, deleting what he believed were all the dedicated copies, briefly digressing to offer up a candid opinion on the revealing nature of self-editing—but a sudden blackout that briefly plunges the room into darkness brings their session to an abrupt end. Megatron departs with the answer that Terminus was the one who taught him "not to get attached", and tells Rung that "self-editing" is not limited to just writings, but something that people do to their lives every day via denial, selective memory, and more. But sometimes, the former Decepticon notes, such editing is not enough, and one must start their lives over again—just like he is now.

''As the ''Lost Light'' gets ready to resume its mission, [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]] holds auditions for new crewmembers with a little help from [[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]] and a disinterested [[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]]. His criteria for admission prove deeply unusual, as he rejects [[Groove (G1)|Groove]] for being easily distracted and [[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]] for looking too much like Prowl, but just as he is about to turn down a particularly enthusiastic Nautica for having a trisyllabic name, [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] bursts in and reveals that the whole thing is a prank Swerve is playing—after all, Ultra Magnus would never have permitted the interviews to be advertised as "crewditions".''

''Optimus and Rodimus visit Megatron in his cell, bringing [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]], intending to have him use his mnemosurgery skills to extract memories from Megatron's mind that can be used to corroborate his testimony in court, thereby ending the trial quicker. A horrified Megatron cries out for his guards, fearful that the procedure will be used as cover for tampering with his mind—something which he refuses to permit, and will die to prevent. A resigned Prime departs with Chromedome, but Rodimus remains behind a moment to deliver a final speech to Megatron, matter-of-factly stating how happy everyone will be when he is inevitably executed. Megatron takes his words in quietly, then calmly requests that he do him a favour, and hands him a [[communicube]].''

Nightbeat and [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] try to check on Chromedome, who has slunk back into depression following the end of Megatron's trial, and now stays in his hab suite listening to [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]]'s final message on repeat. Unsurprisingly, he doesn't answer the door when the pair knock, and Nightbeat decides it's best to leave him be, more intrigued by the curious absence of the "8" from the suite's door number. As they leave, neither seems to notice that some letters have also disappeared from the "fuel furnace" sign behind them in the length of time they have been standing there... and neither is present to share in Chromedome's shock when Rewind's repeating message suddenly ''changes'', ending on a tortured scream.

Returning to his quarters, Megatron discovers his door defaced with graffiti denouncing him as a murderer whose time is marked. Seconds later, he blocks an arrow sent flying towards his head with his hand, and turns to see [[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] standing with a bow. Whirl is apparently about to deny his actions, before suddenly savagely attacking Megatron, tackling him through a wall and into the fuel furnace below. Whirl claims that he is tired of waiting for Megatron to make his move to settle their old score, and so he has struck first. Boasting about his "immortality" as they fight, Whirl is offered a shocking revelation by Megatron: the only reason he has lived so long is because Megatron ''ensured'' it, ordering his Decepticons never to kill Whirl so that he could have him for himself. Taunted by the knowledge of what he turned Megatron into, a furious Whirl punches through Megatron's stomach... only to have his arm disappear, lost to the Gordian Knot of [[space bridge]] portals that Shockwave's manipulations have turned Megatron's innards into. Megatron instructs Whirl to clean up the graffiti in exchange for his keeping quiet about the attack, and leaves, muttering about the absence of the workshy Pyrobots from the furnace. Whirl recovers and follows a short time later, reporting to someone over a communicator that his attempt to bait Megatron into attacking him has failed...

''Before the assembled populace of Cybertron, the shackled Megatron is escorted to his hearing, and the trial begins. Prowl reads off his litany of charges, and Megatron quietly, calmly, pleads guilty.''

Megatron returns to the bridge for an update on the ship's progress tracking Thunderclash. Magnus also informs him that an unidentified object they had detected out in space earlier is now within visual range. Study of the [[Autobrand]]ed object's size and lack of engines suggests it is a ''coffin''...

==Featured characters==
(Characters in ''italic text'' appear only in the flashback portion of the issue.) 
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*[[Brainstorm]] (1)
*[[Nautica]] (2)
*[[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] (3)
*[[Hosehead (G1)|Hosehead]] (4)
*[[Joyride (G1)|Joyride]] (5)
*[[Groove (G1)|Groove]] (6)
*[[Sky High (Pretender)|Sky High]] (7)
*[[Rung (G1)|Rung]] (8)
*[[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] (9)
*[[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (10)
*''[[Atomizer]]'' (11)
*''[[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]'' (12)
*''[[Hot Rod (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Rodimus]]'' (13)
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*''[[Prowl (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Prowl]]'' (14)
*''[[Ratchet (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ratchet]] (15)
*''[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]]'' (16)
*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Ultra Magnus]] (17)
*''[[Crosscut (Autobot)|Crosscut]]'' (20)
*''[[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]]'' (21)
*''[[Riptide (G1)|Riptide]]'' (22)
*''[[Bluestreak (G1)|Bluestreak]]'' (23)
*''[[Chromia (G1)|Chromia]]'' (24)
*[[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] (25)
*[[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] (26)
*[[Skids (G1)|Skids]] (27)
*[[Whirl (G1)|Whirl]] (28)
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*''[[Sandstorm (G1)|Sandstorm]]'' (31)
*''[[Broadside (G1)|Broadside]]'' (32)
*''[[Hound (G1)|Hound]]'' (34)
*''[[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]]'' (35)
*''[[Sludge (G1)|Sludge]]'' (36)
*''[[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]]'' (37)
*''[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]]'' (38)
*''[[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]'' (39)
*''[[Huffer (G1)|Huffer]] (40)
*''[[Xaaron]]'' (41)
*''[[Powerflash]]?'' (42)
*[[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] (43)
*[[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] (44)
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*''[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailcutter]]'' (45)
*''[[Rollout (G1)|Rollout]]'' (46)
*''[[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]]'' (47)
*''[[Siren]]'' (48)
*''[[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]]'' (49)
*''[[Windblade (G1)|Windblade]]'' (50)
*[[Mainframe (G1)|Mainframe]] (51)
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*[[Ravage (G1)|Ravage]] (19)
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*''[[Starscream (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Starscream]]'' (18)
*''[[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]]?'' (29)
*''[[Tankor (BM)|Tankor]]'' (30)
*''[[Blurr (G1)|Blurr]]'' (33)
}}

==Quotes==

"Color coded '''lasers.''' '''Red''' if you're an Autobot, '''purple''' if you're a Decepticon. And this is the best bit: '''the color changes depending on who's firing the gun.'''" 
"So the gun would—" 
"'''—know if you were good or bad!''' Yes! What do you think? Good idea? '''Amazing''' idea? Be honest." 
"Honestly? I think for an intuitive weapon to promote long-discredited notions of '''moral absolutism''' is problematic in the extreme." 
"..." 
"..." 
"It doesn't '''have''' to be red and purple..."
:—'''Nautica''' and '''Brainstorm'''

"Starscream! Will you stop saying "my people"? They're not your people. They're not your '''anything'''. They're ordinary Cybertronian citizens who went '''insane''' and put you in charge. Any day now they'll wake up, realize what they've done, and kill themselves. Suicide by '''face-palm'''."
:—'''Rodimus'''

"I hate to disappoint you, Rung, but sometimes a fusion cannon is just a fusion cannon."
:—'''Megatron''' on compensation

"My life is a succession of decisions made in '''confined spaces'''."
:—'''Megatron'''

"Here's a little—whatever. A little thing. A disclosure. An insight. '''Revisionism'''—I've always been fascinated by it. By the idea of a writer going back and altering things. Make no mistake: an edit is a '''profoundly aggressive''' act. As '''Froid''' once said, we grieve for the '''murdered word'''. If you want to get the measure of an author, don't look at what they've left on the page.... look at what they've '''taken away'''."
:—'''Rung'''

"I was once reprimanded for making an '''aside.'''"
:—'''Swerve'''

==Notes==
===Continuity notes===
*Everyone crowded around Rung's door in the opening sequence is a new arrival on the ''Lost Light''. With the exception of Groove, all those present were shown to have been on Cybertron at various points during the first two years of ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]''.
*In a long distance shot of Metroplex, we can see Atomizer supervising the spray-painting of the ''Lost Light''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s name onto the ship; fitting, since he's a former decorator.
*Optimus refers to the trial of a character named [[Phobos]], adding context to the "Phobos controversy" mentioned in [[Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|issue #11]].
*Rodimus's Matrix-half was shattered back in [[Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|issue #21]]. That issue also feature the defeat of Tyrest that Rodimus mentions, which is why there is no Chief Justice available for Megatron's trial, forcing Optimus to take the chair. When he does, he wears a crown like Tyrest's.
*The ''Lost Light'' was previously shown to be searching for Thunderclash in [[Dark Dawn: Dark Cybertron Chapter 1|"Dark Cybertron" Chapter 1]]. The superlative Autobot's divine guidance towards the Knights of Cybertron was introduced when the crew first encountered him in [[Little Victories|issue #22]].
*Rung's "encounter" with Megatron (in addition to his meeting with Whirl) was shown in [[Chaos Theory Part 1|issue #22]] of the [[The Transformers (IDW)|2009-2011 ongoing series]]. It was Rung's first pictorial appearance.
*Rung refers to [[Froid]], his psychoanalytical rival mentioned in "[[Signal to Noise]]".
*Riptide is one of the [[Hydrobot]]s, a team that was mentioned in [[Into the Abyss: Dark Cybertron Chapter 4|issue #24]]. We also hear of his teammate [[Aquabat]].
*We learn that the mines Megatron originally worked in (before he was reassigned to [[Messatine]], per [[Shadowplay, Part 1: Post Hoc|issue #9]]) were beneath [[Nova Point]], adding substantially greater meaning to the fact that he delivered his declaration of war from the top of this peak, as we learned in [[Rules of Disengagement|issue #7]].
*Rewind's farewell message appeared back in [[The Gloaming|issue #16]].
*One of the slurs scrawled onto Megatron's door is 'spawn of [[Mortilus]]', an idiom previously used to refer to [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]] in [[The Illusion of Control|''Monstrosity'' #10]].
*Broadside was last seen in [[Before the Dawn|''Robots in Disguise'' #14]], in which the building he was in was crushed by [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]]. The same goes for Sky High, who was crushed in Devastator's grip. Nice to see they're okay!
*Meanwhile, his fellow Triple Changer and former Wrecker Sandstorm reappears here for the first time since ''[[Chaos Part Two: Numbers|Chaos]]''. And he's no longer [[Things Fall Apart, Part 3: "Seasons in Flight"|hideous]]. Thank god for a new toy, amirite?
*If you're not darkening your pants at the use of the word "coffin" in this issue's final panel, it's 'cause you're not remembering the message from the future from all the way back in [[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|issue #1]] which warned "Don't open the coffin".

===Transformers references===
*Brainstorm's color-coded guns hearken back to the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]], in which each faction's weapons fired uniquely-colored blasts. However, in what might be an error, Brainstorm here suggests that Autobot guns would fire ''red'' energy blasts; in the cartoon, the Autobots' weapons fired ''orange'' blasts, this being their signature color in every respect save for [[insignia]] and their blue eyes, used for bases, technology, spaceships and more, in the same way the Decepticons used purple for everything (except their ''red'' eyes!). The idea of red energy blasts for Autobots wasn't introduced until the [[Unicron Trilogy]] cartoons.
*The Dostoyevsky quote on the first page is written in [[Richard Starkings]]' "Bithead" typeface which was first used way back in [[BotCon 1997]]'s "[[Ground Zero]]" for [[Predacon (BW)|Predacon]] dialog.
*The wireframe "X-ray" effect Rung and Megatron are drawn with during the brief blackout pays homage to [[Unicron]]'s reformatting of the abandoned Decepticons in ''[[The Transformers: The Movie]]''.
*Megatron has taken up residence in hab suite 113, another of Roberts's [[113 (disambiguation)|multiple references]] to the number.
*Before Megatron and Whirl crash into the fuel furnace, a sign on the wall reads "P-38", in reference to Megatron's original Walther P38 pistol alternate mode. Below that is "C-16"; 16 was Megatron's original [[List of Japanese ID numbers|Japanese ID number]], from before they started adding "C-" or "D-" to them to denote whether the toy was a "Cybertron" (the Japanese name for the Autobots) or "Destron" (Decepticon). Megatron's an Autobot now, hence this little "C-16" in-joke.
*Rung has a model [[Starhopper]] in his spaceship collection.

===Real-life references===
*The title of this three-parter is derived from the [[Wikipedia: Julian Cope|Julian Cope]] [[Wikipedia:World Shut Your Mouth (song)|song of the same name]].
*The issue opens with the dialogue "aaaaand... we're '''back!'''", which is, of course, a meta-reference to this issue's position as ''More than Meets the Eye''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s 'second season premiere' after the interlude that was "Dark Cybertron".
*Megatron's "Sometimes a fusion cannon..." line is a paraphrasing of the famous quote "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar", a phallic imagery joke misattributed to [[Wikipedia: Sigmund Freud|Sigmund Freud]].
*Bluestreak directly references the 1994 movie ''[[Wikipedia: Shallow Grave|Shallow Grave]]''.
*Nautica is a quantum mechanic, a play upon the real-life field of {{w|quantum mechanics}}. The cheat engines and Möbius ships she professes interest in are also wordplays, on {{w|Heat engine|heat engines}} and {{w|Möbius strip|Möbius strips}} respectively.
*As with real [[wikipedia:Distilled beverage|distilled alcoholic spirits]], such as [[wikipedia:vodka|vodka]], "triple distilled" [[engex]], per Chromia's description of Nautica's demand for "really good" engex, is apparently the expensive stuff.

===Errors===
*There's a free-floating asterisk after Rodimus says "the greatest Autobot of all time" that doesn't have a footnote attached to it.
*As Chromedome listens to Rewind's message, it includes the line "I've probably got 0.8 seconds..." In issue #16, this was rendered as two sentences spliced together "I've probably got about n—ought point eight seconds"; the word "about" has disappeared from the line this issue. While it's tempting to draw a parallel with this issue's theme of editing, this accidentally-dropped word was actually a mistake by TFWiki when the speech was written up and edited for readability for issue #16's article (which also included turning "n—ought point eight" into "0.8"). Seems like Roberts knew he could source the quote from the article quickly rather than spend time searching his hard drive for the script!
*To the extreme left of the trial double-page splash, by Sandstorm's elbow, [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]] appears to be sitting in the audience, despite having died in the [[...And the Damage Done: Dark Cybertron Finale|conclusion to "Dark Cybertron"]].

===Crew manifest===
*The crew gets a big overhaul. The exact number of 'bots aboard is presently unknown, having last been calculated at 190 functional crewmembers and several non-functional wounded. (In Roberts' letter at the end, he says there are 300, but that may be an inexact number.)
**Confirmed previous crew: Ultra Magnus, Brainstorm, Rung, Skids, Chromedome, Whirl, Perceptor, Mainframe, Blaster
**Confirmed new arrivals: Megatron, Nautica, Nightbeat, Mirage, Hosehead, Getaway, Groove, Sky High, Bluestreak, Ravage
**Confirmed departures: [[Fizzle]] and [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]]

===Other trivia===
*Ravage's appearance on the ''Lost Light'' comes as a surprise. One of James Roberts's early ideas for ''More than Meets the Eye'' included Ravage stowing away on the ship; whether or not that's what happening here isn't quite clear yet.
*Rung reveals that his cute little round spectacle-like optics actually ''are'' a pair of spectacle lenses than he can remove, as he does so this issue.
*Bluestreak comments that this is his second attempt to sign up for the ''Lost Light'', an outside reference to the fact that Roberts tried to get the character for the book at its outset, but he wound up going to ''Robots in Disguise'' because that book's artist [[Andrew Griffith]] loves the character.
*This issue's story is followed by a letter from James Roberts welcoming readers to the book, which is missing from the Comixology download.
*Similar to the pre-launch promotion for ''More than Meets the Eye'' and ''Robots in Disguise'' two years prior, this series was trailed by a "scavenger hunt" for a series of six promo posters that were released to various sites around the internet. This round of '' More than Meets the Eye'' images featured a "tarot" theme, and included: Megatron on [https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152346827453279&set=a.10150239372238279.337626.8473603278&type=1&stream_ref=10 IDW's Facebook page], Nautica on [http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/idw-transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-28-seibertron-exclusive-nautica-teaser/30039/ Seibertron.com], Nightbeat on [http://bwtf.com/node/3262 BWTF.com], Riptide on [https://twitter.com/trnsmissions/status/460908171368738818 The TransMissions podcast's Twitter], Tailgate on [https://twitter.com/theunderbase/status/460886217186226176 The Underbase podcast's Twitter] and Trailcutter on [http://tformers.com/trailcutter-the-catalyst-transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-exclusive-promotional-art-cover/23186/news.html TFormers.com].

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===Soundtrack===

*''[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pndE7pPCgW8 World, Shut Your Mouth]'' by [[Wikipedia: Julian Cope|Julian Cope]]

===Covers (3)===
*'''Standard cover:''' Megatron superimposed on a starfield as the ''Lost Light'' boldly goes forward, by [[Casey Coller]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
*'''Subscription cover:''' Megatron and the cast recreate [[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|issue #1]]'s Cover E, which was an homage to Kevin Maguire's 1986 ''Justice League'' #1, by [[Alex Milne]] and [[Josh Perez]]
*'''Incentive cover:''' Megatron by [[Livio Ramondelli]], part of a three-piece image alongside [[A 'Bot and Her City|''Windblade'' #1]] and [[Earthfall Part 1: Hello Cruel World|''Robots in Disguise'' #28]].

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===Advertisements===
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==External links==
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Talk:Finest Hour: Dark Cybertron Chapter 5

2013-12-18T16:16:02Z

Phantom:

'''Scrap vs Crap'''

Ok so who here honestly believes the T-Formers are using real swear words such as "Crap"(slang term for feces)? [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] ([[User talk:Phantom|talk]]) 11:16, 18 December 2013 (EST)

Talk:Finest Hour: Dark Cybertron Chapter 5

2013-12-18T16:15:46Z

Phantom: Created page with "'''Scrap vs Crap''' Ok so who here honestly believes the T-Formers are using real swear words such as "Crap"(slang term for feces)?"

'''Scrap vs Crap'''

Ok so who here honestly believes the T-Formers are using real swear words such as "Crap"(slang term for feces)?

Finest Hour: Dark Cybertron Chapter 5

2013-12-18T15:47:47Z

Phantom: /* Errors */

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'''Things go badly when the united Autobot and Decepticon forces take the fight to Shockwave, while in the Dead Universe, Orion Pax's team joins up with Nightbeat.'''

==Synopsis==

As [[Nova Prime]] and [[Galvatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Galvatron]] slowly squeeze themselves through the narrow [[space bridge]] in [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]]'s chest, the united forces of [[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]]'s [[Autobot]]s and [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s [[Decepticon]]s come blasting into [[Crystal City]]. Soundwave tackles Shockwave, disgusted to see him allied with a [[Prime (rank)|Prime]], but Shockwave summons [[Metalhawk (Masterforce)|Metalhawk]] to his aid, shocking the assembled Autobots with his living presence and evident desire for revenge. While [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] gets proactive, straddling Megatron and trying to shove Nova Prime back through the portal, [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] tries to shut down the machinery controlling the space bridge to free his leader. Unfortunately, he finds that his teleporting power has mysteriously started to malfunction, leaving him stuck in mid-phase-out and unable to touch anything—though that does at least provide him some protection against [[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]]'s attempt to stop him. [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] and [[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]], meanwhile, are trying to harvest some of Shockwave's [[Ore-14|resurrection ore]] to heal the wounded when [[Rumble (G1)|Rumble]] is knocked into their midst by an attack from [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]]. Spotting the two, Waspinator is about to zoom in to stop them when Shockwave instead calls him to his side, and orders him to hand over his stinger-gun—the device which he used to inadvertently forge his connection with the [[Necrotitan]]. But where Waspinator has never been able to fathom the depths of the Titan's vast consciousness through this link, is is no challenge for the focused, emotionless mind of Shockwave. Jettisoning the barrel of his gun-arm, Shockwave attaches Waspinator's weapon in its place, granting himself control over the Titan, which comes crashing into the cavern at his command. In the chaos that follows, Skywarp dematerializes completely, and Ironhide manages to punch Nova back through the portal just before the Titan's fist comes crashing down.

In the [[Dead Universe]], [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]]'s team express their skepticism at the appearance of [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]], but a quick recounting of his the circumstances of his death (at [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]]'s hands, at his own request, after he discovered he had been brainwashed into a sleeper agent for Nova Prime) seems to convince everyone. When Pax introduces Nightbeat to [[Cyclonus (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Cyclonus]], Nightbeat is able to carry out an impressive cold-reading of the ancient 'bot that allows him to deduce that [[Tailgate (G1)|a friend of Cyclonus]]'s is unwell but recovering. Cyclonus is furious at this invasion of his privacy, but Orion calms him and the team gets back on track, with Nightbeat now leading them toward the Dead Universe's contraction point.

Back on Cybertron, the remaining Autobots and Decepticons extricate themselves from the rubble of the collapsed cavern. Bumblebee tries to take stock of the fallen, but from the smoke, Megatron emerges, carrying Ironhide, expressing the hope that the Autobots have something they can actually effectively throw at the Titan. No sooner has Megatron appeared, however, than another figure steps from the clouds—Galvatron has made it through the portal, and immediately tears Megatron in half! And over all, the Nectrotitan looms, as Shockwave stands at its feet and calls for it to obliterate everyone!

As Orion's team continue their trek through the Dead Universe, Rodimus tries to make sense of Nightbeat's return to life; Nightbeat opines that has ''not'' returned to life, but merely survived death. Hardhead wants to know why, when he appeared before them, Nightbeat told them not to touch Cyclonus, and the detective explains that he had discovered a piece of Cyclonus's forecefied generator at their landing site. The device broke when Cyclonus "landed badly" on it, and he has been reclaimed by the Dead Universe. At that moment, a containment cube suddenly springs up around the group, trapping them all save Nightbeat. In horror, Orion realizes that Nightbeat has led them here and allow this to happen: he is ''still'' under the control of Nova Prime, who comes crashing down out of the heavens to stand before them!

==Featured characters==
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*[[Bumblebee (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Bumblebee]] (10)
*[[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] (16)
*[[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] (17)
*[[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]] (19)
*[[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]] (20)
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*[[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] (4)
*[[Dreadwing (G2)|Dreadwing]] (5)
*[[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]] (6)
*[[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] (7)
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*[[Laserbeak (G1)|Laserbeak]] (13)
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==Quotes==

"Shockwave—I have '''never''' thought highly of you—but to betray our cause for the sake of a '''Prime''' is beyond '''comprehension.'''" 
"'''Every''' stage of my plan is beyond '''your''' comprehension, Soundwave."
:—'''Soundwave''' gets a little smack-talk from '''Shockwave'''

"'''Cretin!''' You '''presume''' to lay hands on the carapace of '''Nova Prime?!'''" 
"Yeah, well—that's a '''mouthful''' fer somebody I thought was dead. I guess ya got '''better.'''" 
"No—I got '''worse.'''" 
"Aw, '''come on.''' You been at this world-conquerin' nonsense fer '''millions''' o' years—an' '''that's''' the level o' discourse I '''gotta deal''' with?"
:—'''Nova Prime''' and '''Ironhide'''

"If you ever discover you've been brainwashed into being a '''sleeper agent''' for '''Nova Prime''', ask Hardhead to take care of the problem—he's brilliant at it! Sorry, Hardhead. '''Thank you''' for murdering me." 
"Huh. Don't mention it. Least I could do."
:—'''Nightbeat''' and '''Hardhead'''

'''Nightbeat:''' "Judging from his accent, Cyclonus was forged in '''Upper Tetrahex''', a borough monopolized by members of a relgious order called the '''Clavis Aurea'''. His left horn clearly home-made. The Clavis Aurea are '''notoriously''' superstitious about replacing inessential body parts, so it must've been made by a friend—a good friend. But that's '''incidental'''. For the truth, look at the '''eyes'''. The right '''corneal lens''' is slightly darker than the left—the result of an imbalance in his internal fluids attributable to a recently depleted stock of '''innermost energon'''. And you only make a donation—" 
'''Rodimus:''' "When someone is at death's door! '''Got it!''' But... how did you know '''Tailgate''' hadn't died aready?" 
'''Nightbeat:''' "There are '''three scratches''' on Cyclonus' left cheek. They've been '''patched up''', but you can still see traces. The pattern of the scratches—not to mention Cyclonus' '''fingertips'''—suggests that they were '''self-inflicted'''. You clearly struggle to express yourself—you've barely said a word since I arrived and you rarely make eye contact. I think you scratched yourself rather than tell Tailgate you were worried about him. The fact you've patched up the scratch suggests Tailgate is '''okay'''. If he'd died, fixing yor face would've been the '''last''' thing on your—<big>'''HRK!'''</big>" 
'''Cyclonus:''' "You're lucky I don't kill you. '''You're lucky I don't kill all of you!'''"

==Notes==

===Continuity notes===
*It wasn't discussed in detail in past issues, but [[Homecoming (IDW)|''Robots in Disguise'' #19]] did clearly show that Waspinator's link to the Titan was made through his stinger-gun when he stabbed the giant using it in the past.
*Nightbeat is still sporting the headshot wound Hardhead gave him when he shot him back in ''[[Spotlight: Hardhead]]''.
*Nightbeat's reading of Cyclonus flags up a few continuity points from the last year of ''[[The Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'': Cyclonus's [[Tetrahex]]ian accent from [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|issue #13]], his replacement horn, made by Tailgate, from [[Remain in Light 5 of 5: This Calamitous Life|issue #21]], the concept of donating [[innermost energon]] from [[Before & After|issue #12]], and Cyclonus's facial self-mutilation from [[Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon|issue #17]].
*Galvatron notes that he "remembers" Megatron; the characters have never had any direct interaction in IDW continuity before this point, and Megatron in particular has never even seen Galvatron before, but Galvatron spied on the Decepticons during their battle with the [[Reaper]]s and saw Megatron in action aaaaaall the way back in [[Devastation issue 6|''Devastation'' #6]].

===Real-life references===
*Nightbeat's cold-reading of Cyclonus is clearly inspired by fellow fictional detective [[Sherlock Holmes]], who was capable of such amazing feats of [[Wikipedia: Abductive reasoning|abductive reasoning]]. In particular, the detached way he carries out the reading, without regard for Cyclonus's feelings, and Cyclonus's enraged response, seem especially indicative of the modern reimagining of Holmes as seen in the ''[[Wikipedia: Sherlock (TV series)|Sherlock]]'' TV series.
*We learn from Nightbeat's deductions that Cyclonus belong to the religious order of the [[Clavis Aurea]]. "Clavis aurea" is a 16th century theological term that refers to the means by which hidden meanings in texts may be discovered; it means "golden key" in Latin. With this in mind, think back to the character-specific promotional images released for the launch of ''More than Meets the Eye'' [[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|#1]]... and recall that Cyclonus's read: "Cyclonus is '''key'''." ''Hmmmmmn...''

===Trivia===
*Artist breakdown: Having previously illustrated a ''Lost Light'' scene in the last chapter, Robert Gill here provides artwork for all scenes set on Cybertron, while Livio Ramondelli continues to render all the Dead Universe scenes.

===Errors===
*Laserbeak and Rumble are drawn with their standard Generation 1 cassette bodies, rather than the data disk and tank bodies they've had since [[The Verge|issue #13]].
*This may not be an error but it would seem that scrap has been misspelt as ''Crap'' on page 12.

===Covers (3)===
*'''Cover A:''' Galvatron and Nova Prime, by [[Casey Coller]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
*'''Sub cover:''' Rattrap by [[Phil Jimenez]] and [[Romulo Fajardo Jr.]]
*'''Cover RI:''' Orion Pax, Hardhead, Rodimus and Cyclonus by [[Marcelo Matere]] and [[Priscilla Tramontano]]
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==External links==
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Talk:Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon

2013-06-04T00:12:19Z

Phantom: /* Ransack */

== Move? ==

Should this maybe be at "The Fecund Moon"?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 14:04, 29 May 2013 (EDT)
:I believe it's at this title for now, 'cause the title's an end-of-issue spoilery one, to avoid spoilers in the Recent Changes. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:30, 29 May 2013 (EDT)
::What Jalaguy said, but ultimately it should be "Remain in Light 1 of 5: The Fecund Moon". There's no "Part" in the title, but the rest IS part of the title. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 15:46, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

==Ransack==
I'm thinking it's either noteworthy, an error or a retcon that Ransack appears to have left Cybertron since RID #3, right? The Decepticons there haven't been shown to be able to get offworld have they? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 17:45, 30 May 2013 (EDT)

: I agree at the very least it's Noteworthy. [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 20:12, 3 June 2013 (EDT)

=="Knock-Offs"==
Is this... you know... a slur? It seems like one in context. Or at least a horribly outdated and now kind of inappropriate term, like "Orientals" or "Negroes" [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 09:48, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
:The "4m years ago/thinks he's being progressive" line suggests the latter, I think. (Which makes you wonder exactly how horrendous the prevailing terminology WAS if that was the *preferred* term for a notable time!) - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 10:37, 31 May 2013 (EDT)
::They prefer "third-party"; it makes them sound more legitimate. -[[User:LV|LV]] 10:40, 31 May 2013 (EDT)

MediaWiki:TFWiki.net 2013 Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions/Entries

2013-05-29T12:12:52Z

Phantom:

This is the page for the '''TFWiki.net Transformers Hall of Fame Auditions''' entries. The rules are as follows:

#You must pick your top five ''Transformers'' characters, from any era. They must actually '''be''' Transformers; sorry, but no humans, non-Transformer aliens, non-Transformer robots, or anything else of the sort are being considered for the Hall of Fame. Any votes for such entities will '''not''' be tabulated. It is the sole discretion of the contest organizers to decide what does and does not count.
#Take your top five list and '''put it in alphabetical order'''. Order of preference does not matter. Feel free to denote the character's franchise of origin, although these distinctions may or may not figure into the final results.
#You '''cannot''' vote for a specific version of '''Bumblebee, Dinobot, Grimlock, Ironhide, Jazz, Megatron, Optimus Prime, Ratchet, Shockwave, Soundwave, Starscream, Waspinator, or Wheeljack.''' They've already been inducted!
#However, '''you CAN vote''' for '''''[[Beast Wars: Transformers (franchise)|Beast Wars]]'' [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron]] or [[Optimus Primal]]'''! Hasbro considers them separate!
#Only one entry per user.

Please put your characters of choice and user name below in the following manner:

*Bulkhead, Emirate Xaaron, Side Swipe, Terrorsaur (BW), X-Brawn --(four tildes)

Poll entry period ends at 4pm on '''[[May 31]]st, 2013'''. --[[User:Monzo|Monzo]] 12:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

==Poll entries==


*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]], [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]], [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways]], [[Sky-Byte (RID)|Sky-Byte]] - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 12:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Chromedome, Fortress Maximus, Omega Supreme, Rewind --[[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 12:35, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Barricade, Devastator, Ravage, Sideways, Ultra Magnus -[[User:LV|LV]] 12:47, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Galvatron, Megatron (BW), Overlord, Sky-Byte, Unicron [[User:Mimi|Mimi]] 12:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Ratbat, Ravage, Rhinox, Wreck-Gar [[User:Awa64|Awa64]] 12:56, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blurr, BW Megatron, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Whirl [[User:Fireshot|Fireshot]] 12:59, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bruticus, Devastator, Primus, Rattrap, Unicron -[[User:Combaticons4ever|Combaticons4ever]] 13:17, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hot Shot, Menasor, Springer, Tarantulas, Tracks [[User:Phantom_Dusclops'92|Phantom Dusclops'92]] 13:29, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Botanica, Fortress Maximus, Swindle, Swoop, Ultra Magnus - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 13:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee (Prime)]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron (Beast Wars)]], [[Rampage (BW)|Rampage (Beast Wars)]], [[Rattrap]], [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle (Animated/G1)]] --[[User:DrSpengler|DrSpengler]] 13:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hound, Ratbat, Sideswipe, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Inkblot|Inkblot]] 13:50, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Impactor, Scrounge, Straxus, Ultra Magnus, Venom --[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 13:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime --[[User:Anguirus|Anguirus]] 14:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)
*Bruticus, Devastator, Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Tarantulas -- [[User:Karhukjnsi|Karhukjnsi]] 14:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Lugnut, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swerve, Tarantulas -- [[User:General Tekno|General Tekno]] 14:26, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Buzzsaw, Nightbeat, Prowl, Tarantulas, Thunderwing -- --[[User:Nu-Priest|Nu-Priest]] 14:30, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Cyclonus, Prowl, Scorponok, Sunstreaker, Swindle - [[User:Cattleprod|Cattleprod]] 14:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Drift, Injector, Knock-Out (Prime), Megatron (BW), Tarantulas --[[User:EvoChanger|EvoChanger]] 14:34, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Chromedome, Rodimus, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Trixter|Trixter]] 14:41, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Hot Shot, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Amadeus Windfall|Amadeus Windfall]] 14:53, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Rodimus, Rung. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:54, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Astrotrain, Cosmos, Cyclonus, Omega Supreme, Ultra Magnus --([[User:Pinecronix|Pinecronix]] 14:57, 24 May 2013 (EDT))

*Demolishor (Armada), Hot Shot (Armada), Override (Cybertron), Red Alert (Armada), Sideways (Armada). --[[User:Stardust262|Stardust262]] 15:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Barricade, Devastator, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus [[User:Hooper X|-hx]] 15:06, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Devastator, Omega Supreme, Ravage, Rodimus -- [[User:Riddlerj|Riddlerj]] 15:09, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Omega Supreme, Prowl, Swindle, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 15:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Cosmos, Prowl, Sky-Byte, Tarantulas, Warpath --[[User:Sockie|Sockie]] 15:16, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Cyclonus, Deszaras, Powered Convoy, Star Saber -- [[User:S-NFS|S-NFS]] 23:22, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

*Cyclonus, Prowl, Sideways, Swoop, Ultra Magnus --[[User:AutoUIMagnus299|AutoUi299]] 15:53, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (G1), Blades (G1), Punch, Side Burn (RID), Smokescreen (G1) [[User:Antimatter|Antimatter]] 16:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Ironfist, Rung, Sari Sumdac, Silverbolt (BW), Teaspoon -- [[User:JediFlaherty|JediFlaherty]] 16:03, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Metroplex, Sky-Byte, Wreck-Gar --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 16:05, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Omega Supreme, Overlord, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 16:11, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Ironfist, Nightbeat, Smokescreen, Thundercracker, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Russellestate|Russellestate]] 16:07, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Impactor, Prowl, Ratbat, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:MarkMontag|MarkMontag]] 16:25, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Sideswipe, Smokescreen, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 17:03, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Deathsaurus, Megatron (BW), Skywarp, Swindle, Thundercracker -- [[User:Rayqui|Rayqui]] 17:45, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Prowl, Sky-Byte --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:47, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blackarachnia, Hot Shot, Beast Megatron, Ratbat, Ravage --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:54, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Devastator, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte, Swindle, Wreck-Gar --[[User:G.B. Blackrock|G.B. Blackrock]] 17:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Devastator, Hot Shot, Megatron(BW), Ravage, Sky-Byte -- [[User:Shellspark|Shellspark]] 18:01, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Knock Out, Ravage, Sky-Byte, Swindle -- [[User:Strangefour|Strangefour]] 18:18, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Airazor, Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Rattrap, Terrorsaur -- [[User:Bumblevivisector|Bumblevivisector]] 18:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bulkhead, Lugnut, Sky Byte -- [[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 18:23, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Prowl, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 18:40, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Arcee (WFC)|Arcee (Prime)]], [[Blackarachnia (BW)|Blackarachnia]], [[Megatron (BW)|Megatron (Beast Wars)]], [[Nightbeat (G1)|Nightbeat]], [[Rattrap]]--[[User:Damo|Damo]] 18:46, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Cheetor, Ginrai, Megatron (Beast Era), Optimus Primal, Thunderwing --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 19:14, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (Prime),Blitzwing(Animated),Bulkhead (Prime), Megatron (BW),Rihnox (BW)--[[User:Venowtron|Venowtron]] 18:19, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Devastator, Megatron (BW), Swindle, Ultra Magnus --[[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] 19:53, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blitzwing, Devastator, Predaking, Sky-Byte --[[User:Fritz|Fritz]] 19:58, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Hot Shot, Jetfire, Prowl [[User:Bobpiecheese|Bobpiecheese]] 20:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Red Alert (g1), Rewind, Thunderwing, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Autobot Hunter|Autobot Hunter]] 20:10, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Cheetor, Optimus Primal, Sentinel Prime, Wreck-Gar. [[User:Tom Servo the Great|Tom Servo the Great]] 20:13, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Bulkhead, Prowl, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ketchup|Ketchup]] 20:16, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Blackarachnia, Blitzwing, Jetfire, Prowl --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 20:21, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Ironfist, Nightbeat, Skids, Smokescreen, Thundercracker --[[User:Hhall3|Hhall3]] 19:39, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*G1 Hot Spot, G1 Quickmix, G1 Rodimus Prime, G1 Searchlight, G1 Silverbolt - [[User:Ironhold|Ironhold]] 21:00, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (Prime), Bulkhead, Hound, Jetfire (G1), Ultra Magnus --[[User:Sntint|Sntint]] 21:38, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Jetfire, Megatron (BW), Scorponok, Skids -- [[User:Chip|Chip]] 22:03, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Devastator, Megatron (BW), Ratbat, Ultra Magnus - [[User:RolonBolon|RolonBolon]] 22:32, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Megatronus Prime/The Fallen, Prima, Primus, Unicron, Thunderwing -- [[User:Primus Dave|Primus Dave]] 22:42, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Omega Supreme, Skywarp, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Diamondmatter|Diamondmatter]] 23:26, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Broadside, Bulkhead, Fortress Maximus, Megatron (BW), Omega Supreme --[[User:ShinRa Actual|ShinRa Actual]] 23:40, 24 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead, Fortress Maximus, Ginrai, Star Saber, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ookalf|Ookalf]] 00:20, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage, Ultra Magnus --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:33, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Megatron (BW), Nemesis Prime, Omega Supreme, Optimus Primal, Vector Prime --[[user:Dinobot III|Dinobot III]] 01:16, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bruticus, Devestator, Galvatron, Rodimus, Ultra Magnus, --[[user:Japanasaurus Rex|Japanasaurus Rex]] 02:57 24 May 2013 (EDIT)

* Brawl, Bruticus, Prowl, Rotorstorm, Sixshot --[[User:Apoc|Apoc]] 04:10, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Kickback, Omega Supreme, Shrapnel, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Ultra Magnus 506|Ultra Magnus 506]] 07:45, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blackarachnia, Chromedome, Megatron (BW), Ravage, Rewind --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 07:50, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blitzwing (Animated), Ironfist, Straxus, Ultra Magnus, Wreck-Gar (Animated) -- [[User:HunterCham|HunterCham]] 08:04, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Fortress Maximus, Impactor, Springer, Ultra Magnus [[User:Mister Jazzz|Mister Jazz]] 08:06, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Bulkhead, Jetfire, Prowl, Springer [[User:Gryllid|Gryllid]] 08:45, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Drift, Ironfist, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal [[User:Blackjack|Blackjack]] 10:42, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Megatron (BW), Rattrap, Red Alert, Wreck-Gar [[User:Stevo|Stevo]] 11:08, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Devastator, Springer, Swindle, Ultra Magnus [[User:Spark Mandrill|Spark Mandrill]] 11:41, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Blackarachnia, Bruticus, Cheetor, Devastator -- [[User:Chihooaher|Chihooaher]] 11:42, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, Bludgeon, Cyclonus (G1), Kup, Ultra Magnus--[[User:Starscream0625|Starscream0625]] 11:45, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee (Prime), Blackarachnia, Blitzwing, Megatron (BW), Sky-Byte --[[User:Professor Icepick|Professor Icepick]] 13:21, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blackarachnia, Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Caius|Caius]] 14:26, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*[[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]], [[Sideways (RID)|Sideways (Multiversal Singularity?)]], [[Swindle (G1)|Swindle]], [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Unicron]] --[[User:AlephTrion|AlephTrion]] 14:38, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Demolishor, Frenzy, Laserbeak, Ravage, Sideways --[[User:Zorion|Zorion]] 22:46, 25 May 2013 (MSK)

* Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus --([[User:Barricade64|Barricade64]] 14:51, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Overlord (G1), Ravage, Seaspray, Unicron, Wreck-gar)-- ([[User:Geminia999|Geminia999]] 15:15, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Hot Rod (G1), Lugnut (Animated), Megatron (BW), Sky Byte (RID), Ultra Magnus (G1) --[[User:Blackout_501st|Blackout_501st]] 16:13. 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blackarachnia, Galvatron, Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, Hot Shot, Unicron --[[User:Fortress Minimus|Fortress Minimus]] 17:04, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Jetfire, Kup, Overlord, Springer, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Astrakhan|Astrakhan]] 17:46, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Astrotrain, Cheetor, Silverbolt (BW), Springer, Swindler (Micromaster Delorean) --[[User:Wheeljack539|Wheeljack539]] 18:12, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Rodimus Prime --[[User:Swift|Swift]] 19:38, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Nightbeat, Overlord, Sky-Byte --[[User:TrentTroop|TrentTroop]] 20:00, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

* [[Megatron (BW)]], [[Metroplex]], [[Omega Supreme]], [[Optimus Primal]], [[Unicron]] --[[User:IronVenom|IronVenom]] 20:19, 25 May 2013 (EDIT)

* Arcee, Bulkhead, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Ravage --[[User:Cr85747|Cr85747]] 22:25, 25 May 2013 (EDT)

*Jetfire, Nemis Prime, Rampage (BW), Ravage, Sunstorm --[[User:KWAC|KWAC]] 20:13 May 25 2013 (EDT)

*Lockdown, Ratbat, Rattrap, Sideways, Sky-Byte --[[User:Quickstrike|Quickstrike]] 01:18, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bludgeon, Bugbite, Jhiaxus, Ultra Magnus, Whirl --[[User:Arborday|Arborday]] 01:27, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Prowl, Ravage, Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, Thundercracker -- [[User:RagdollDark|Dark]] 09:44, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Acid Storm, Air Raid, Brawl, Sky Lynx, Superion -- [[User:Movie09|Movie09]] 12:44, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bludgeon, Cyclonus, Galvatron, Ultra Magnus, Whirl -- [[User: OptimalPrime|OptimalPrime]] 9:46, 26 May (EDT)

* Chromedome, Optimus Primal, Rattrap, Sky-Byte, Ultra Magnus -- [[User: Charles RB|Charles RB]] 00:30, 27 May (GMT)

* Bruticus, Jetfire, Reflector, Sky Lynx, Windcharger -- [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 20:02, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cyclonus (G1), Lugnut, Megatron (Beast Wars), Swerve (G1), Ultra Magnus (G1) --[[User:Bullycon|Bullycon]] 20:58, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

*Omega Supreme, Ratbat, Springer, Ultra Magnus, Whirl --[[User:transfan20|transfan200]] 22:02, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

*Botanica (BW), Impactor, Megatron (BW), Mirage (G1), Whirl --[[User: BScorpinok75 | BScorpinok75]] 22:35, 26 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blitzwing, Chromedome, Overlord, Rattrap, Whirl --[[User:SamuraiMarmoset | SamuraiMarmoset]] 24:12, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Prowl, Springer, Swerve, Rumble --[[User:Ender | Ender]]

* Arcee, Mirage, Overlord, Prowl, Springer -- [[User:Cat|Cat]] 11:44, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Jetfire (Armada), Megatron (Beast Wars), Metroplex, Prowl, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Cradok|Cradok]] 12:53, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Megatron (Beast Wars), Prowl, Ratbat, Swerve, Whirl -- [[User:Ratbatman|Ratbatman]] 13:13, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime, Prowl, Rattrap, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Servitor 2152|Servitor 2152]] 13:17, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Arcee, Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Prowl, Sky-Byte -- [[User:AwesomeAutobot|AwesomeAutobot]] 13:28, 27 May 2013 (EDIT)

* Bulkhead, Devastator, First Aid, Impactor, Ratbat -- [[User:Excise|Excise]] 13:35, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Beast Wars Megatron, Hot Rod/imus, Skywarp, Springer, Thundercracker -- [[User:PsychoAndy|PsychoAndy]] 14:32, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Blaster, [[Turbofire|Hotrider]], Nightbeat, Rattrap, Springer -- [[User:Danja|Danja]] 16:20, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cyclonus, Devastator, Jetfire, Sunstorm, Swindle -- [[User:Steftimusprime14|Steftimusprime14]] 16:38, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cyclonus, Megatron (BW), Prowl, Ratbat, Skywarp -- [[User:EShadowP|EShadowP]] 21:59, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Kup, Prowl, Rumble, Sunstreaker, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Newsy891|Newsy891]] 22:04, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Perceptor, Prowl, Red Alert, Sunstreaker, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Mechabot|Mechabot]] 22:34, 27 May 2013 (EDT)

* Erector, Kranix, Rattrap, Rumble, Sky Lynx -- [[User:Siccoyote|Siccoyote]] 01:37, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Megatron (BW), Optimus Primal, Rampage (BW) Rattrap, Thunderwing -- [[User:Jupr1|Jupr1]] 08:43, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Metroplex, Prowl, Skywarp, Smokescreen, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Shado prime|-Shado Prime]] 12:14, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Alpha Trion, Cyclonus, Perceptor, Scorponok, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:Cydra|Cydra]] 12:54, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Cyclonus, Omega Supreme, Scorponok, Scourge, Ultra Magnus -- [[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] 14:49, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

*Blades, Hot Shot, Lugnut, Swerve, Thundercracker -- [[User:Wasp-shot23|Wasp-shot23]] 16:28, 28 May 2013

*Devastator, Omega Supreme, Prowl, Smokescreen, Ultra Magnus --[[User:Eaglewings1788|Eaglewings1788]] 18:49, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

*Bulkhead (Animated), Lockdown, Megatron (BW), Prowl (Animated), Skybyte [[User:Sharpfinger|Sharpfinger]] 21:07, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

*Arcee (Prime), Blackarachnia, Elita One, Predaking, Smokesceen -- Femtransfan

* Metroplex, Rumble, Skyfire, Superion, Ultra Magnus --[[User:REMINATOR | REMINATOR]] 22:03, 28 May 2013 (EDT)

* Bruticus, Lugnut(Animated), Overlord, Rampage(BW), Whirl -- [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 08:12, 29 May 2013 (EDT)

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Talk:Main Page

2013-04-04T20:19:27Z

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== Alternation suggestion ==

Should we get rid of "Alternation" 'cuz it's been there for two years. --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 19:36, 8 March 2011 (EST)
:Well, [[Alternation]] has only been there for two months, but I think once we get some translations for this ''United'' story that's coming out through eHobby, we could replace it with those. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 19:56, 8 March 2011 (EST)

So why haven't we done it yet? --[[User:Kaon Prisoner|Kaon Prisoner]] 16:34, 9 March 2011 (EST)...

== Logo Characters ==

I've been thinking that the characters who sit behind our logo on the main page are a little boring in my opinion. Now, I know this site is not aboutopinions, but why not put some dofferent characters up there? Secifically, high pofile figures such as G1 O.P. and megatron rather than The Fallen and the colorful guy from that BotCon. Maybe change ROTF Starscream into G1 Starscream but the former is pretty well known I guess. So what I'm trying to say is: why not replace some of the lesser known characters with better known ones? --[[User:Megatron Prime|Megatron Prime]] 18:07, 14 April 2011 (EDT)
: Thank you for your input. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 18:12, 14 April 2011 (EDT)
:Ask yourself, is it reasonable to turn the tfwiki into a G1 hagiography? If anything, the front page should convey tfwiki's mentality straight up, and that is that no shit is too minor and that ''Transformers'' is respected as a brand that knows how to adapt and keep going. [[User:Geewunling|Geewunling]] 02:08, 15 April 2011 (EDT)
::Plus the logo already has an Optimus Prime, a Megatron, a Bumblebee, a Starscream, and a Soundwave in the rotation. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:21, 15 April 2011 (EDT)
:::My best understanding is characters who are presently relevant (ie upcoming or just-released fiction) are put in the rotation. Prime characters and BotCon 2011 characters, basically. (hey, on that topic, shouldn't Motormaster, Wildrider and Cheetor be added to the rotation?) --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 02:42, 15 April 2011 (EDT)
Thank you for putting it into perspective. It was not my intention to convey that we should turn tfwiki into a
G1 hagiography or whatever. So is that to say that the next inductee into the Hall of Fame will be on the rotation?
--[[Special:Contributions/67.142.174.22|67.142.174.22]] 09:19, 15 April 2011 (EDT)
: We generally don't add anyone into the logo unless we get new full-body promotional art of them. That's why everyone is recent. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 09:47, 15 April 2011 (EDT)
:: Case in point: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:TFWIKInet-SentinelPrimeDOTM.jpg --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:38, 15 April 2011 (EDT)

The rest of the Prime characters should go on IMHO.

== Hall of Fame ==

The Hall of Fame section directly under the logo seems to me a bit outdated. How about noting Waspinator's victory now? - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 22:00, 17 June 2011 (EDT)
:It's kinda more for site-relevant news. Normally it woulda been swapped out for another Hasbro Q&A, but there hasn't been one for some time. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:29, 17 June 2011 (EDT)
::Ah. Understood. - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] 19:50, 18 June 2011 (EDT)

== Crisscross ==

You guys should change the latest episode of Prime from [[Operation: Breakdown]] to [[Crisscross]]

== Dark of the Moon App ==

Please make a page for the Dark of the moon app for iDevices. I think people would like it!

[[Special:Contributions/24.11.137.121|24.11.137.121]] 18:52, 7 July 2011 (EDT)

== Loading errors ==

I always have problems with the site. It shows the error page constently. Please help me!

[[Special:Contributions/24.11.137.121|24.11.137.121]] 19:06, 7 July 2011 (EDT)

== Social Networking icons ==

I added [[Ravage (SG)]] to the social networking icons. The HTML code to overlay the text int he dead space to the left of him uses absolute positioning (a tch hacky) but browsershots.org shows it works in every major browser (as well as dozens I've never heard of.) Sooo... I'm leaving it. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 18:33, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

== TLAP Day ==

I just wanted to note how awesome this wiki looked today. Hurrah! - [[User:Queso|¡Usa El Queso!]] [[User talk:Queso|Complain here]] 00:09, 20 September 2011 (EDT)

...Now it's stuck on TLAP Day... possibly forever... [[Special:Contributions/69.19.14.26|69.19.14.26]] 16:33, 21 September 2011 (EDT)

::I doubt it will lart forever, matey.--[[User:Primo|Primo]] 18:09, 21 September 2011 (EDT)

Ye be right! We bein' back to normal, mateys! [[Special:Contributions/66.82.9.100|66.82.9.100]] 14:09, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

English (US) translation

You're right! We're back to normal, guys! [[Special:Contributions/66.82.9.100|66.82.9.100]] 14:09, 22 September 2011 (EDT)

== Facebook link ==

It no longer seems to work. Did the Facebook get deleted or something? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:23, 5 October 2011 (EDT)
:It works fine for me. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 00:43, 6 October 2011 (EDT)
::Hmmm, maybe it's because I don't have a Facebook account then. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:52, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

== Exiles ==
Shouldn't Exiles go on the "current releases" info-thing? [[User:BattleBlade|BattleBlade]] 20:09, 7 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes, it should. I'm not sure where though. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 06:23, 8 October 2011 (EDT)
::Under United? That last area in that module ''was'' intended as sort of a miscellaneous catch-all for any new releases that don't fit the other categories. Alternatively, maybe under Prime? Isn't it in the same Aligned continuity? --[[Special:Contributions/67.252.49.31|67.252.49.31]] 10:20, 8 October 2011 (EDT)

== Tfwiki.info? ==

The link's pretty useless. Have you ever overlooked that problem? --[[Special:Contributions/66.82.162.19|66.82.162.19]] 15:56, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

::I concur with this. Is there another reason why that link is still up there? (Sorry if I'm overlooking something) --[[User:AutoUIMagnus299|AutoUIMagnus299]] 03:33, 20 November 2011 (EST)

== gathering ==

The page for Beast Wars The Gathering has been deleated. Why is that? ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.18.164|184.56.18.164]] 20:13, 4 November 2011 (EDT))
:It's still there at [[Transformers, Beast Wars: The Gathering]]. Derik just got the link wrong when he got his bot to change all the links after it moved. I already brought it up on his talk page. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:24, 4 November 2011 (EDT)

== Logo Change ==

I think it wouldn't hurt if you changed the wiki logo in the top left corner from its current ''Animated'' look into a more ''Prime''-esque logo. {{unsigned|68.147.45.66}}
: I agree! Given that Aligned/Prime is the main continuity it would be fitting. I'd happily knock something up, but graphics is not my forte. - [[User:Yuppie|Yuppie]] 19:12, 2 December 2011 (EST)
I rather like the white/blue/red look we have now. Why? Because you can tell from a glance that we sure ain't that damn terrible Wikia site. Redoing this site in a Prime theme would necessitate a lot of darks and blacks, and that would get rid of that distinction. We've branded. I'd like to hem close to the brand we've established. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 19:34, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:[[Image:User_Yuppie_Test_TFWiki_Prime_Logo.jpg|right]]I agree the overall theme is great and instantly you know where you are, I wouldn't want the whole page to be changed, I just thought that it would be nice if the main logo was updated, even if it was just the 'TransFormers Wiki' part, i.e. leave the Autobot symbol. The Prime word logo would fit, and like with the current Animated one change the 'Prime' wording to 'WIKI', I've had a go on Paintbrush, apologies for quality, {{unsigned|Yuppie}}
::Our current logo also has "TFWIKI.NET" on it, but I'm hard pressed to see how to fit that in the Prime logo without it looking bad. Also I feel compelled to mention that the logo's restricted in size due to placement, and shrinking that logo down to fit makes the word "WIKI" nearly unreadable anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:11, 3 December 2011 (EST)
:::What if we replaced the Prime-logo "Transformers" with "TFWIKI" (single line) and the light-slash-through-it "Wiki" with ".Net"? Use the fonts to actually depict our name. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 23:06, 3 December 2011 (EST)
::I didn't know this was a Transformers WtKt. --[[User:Andrusi|Andrusi]] 10:18, 8 December 2011 (EST)
Speaking of logo changing, i wanna know how u do that. Im having problems with my title in my own wiki & i need to know how to change it--[[User:Jazzerprime|Jazzerprime]] 2:45, December 19, 2011
:If it's on Wikia, they have a different way of doing it to how we do it here, so you'd be better off asking on their community central wiki. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:05, 19 December 2011 (EST)
::Thank u [[User:Jazzerprime|Jazzerprime]] 5:04, 19 December 2011

I'm not sure what it's called, but on the left hand side of the browser tab there is a little image of a G2 Autobot symbol. Before BotCon 2010 and its Generation 21: Redux that was a normal Autobot symbol. Is there any way to change it back to the original symbol? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:11, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
:No, our "favicon" was always a G2 Autobot symbol, since the beginning of time. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 16:27, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
::Huh. That's weird. I distinctly remember it being the other one. Oh well. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 16:49, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
:::It was the original Autobot symbol on Wikia. When we moved to our own hosting, we changed it to the G2 one. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 17:11, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

== Fall of Cybertron in Nav Bar? ==

I'm thinking we should add Fall of Cybertron to the Nav Bar once all the pages relating to the games have been cleaned up from their current state (streamlined is the word, as there are too many useless pages to navigate relating to the FOC "franchise"). Also, maybe add some FOC characters to the cycling picture on the main page too. Dark of the Moon came out months ago, and sure the toyline is still going, but it's about to be replaced by the "Movie Trilogy" line. I say replace DOTM with FOC, or leave it and add FOC on a new slot. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 22:47, 19 December 2011 (EST)
: We can add FOC dudes to the cycling logo image once we have clean versions of them. As of now, we don't, probably because it's not coming out for another year. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 22:53, 19 December 2011 (EST)
:: I understand, but what of the Nav Bar? How many slots are allowed, or is it unlimited? I started wondering since I noticed WFC's slot got changed to Rescue Bots. And while that's well and good, perhaps FOC can have a slot, as we are getting more and more information each day it seems. --[[User:Kaymac192|Kaymac192]] 22:57, 19 December 2011 (EST)
:::Potentially we can have as many as we like, with the caveat of course that stuff underneath gets moved down further. Would be cool maybe to change the skin to have collapsing sections like Wikipedia's Vector skin does. I'm all for adding a Fall of Cybertron link once the Fall of Cybertron pages are streamlined. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:36, 21 December 2011 (EST)

== italics vs. quotation marks ==

I know I'm probably being a pain in the butt, but why every title in the "current releases" navbar is in quotation marks - except "Dark of the Moon" and "Switching Gears"? I'd change it, but since it's the main page, I'd rather ask first. Also, Happy New Year, guys. - [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 11:30, 31 December 2011 (EST)
:Here is {{SITENAME SHORT}}'s [[Help:Style guide#Titles|style guide on the subject]]. It doesn't list novels like Switching Gears, but I think they should be italicized. - [[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 12:40, 31 December 2011 (EST)
::Thanks. I could've thought of checking guides... Anyway, I think we could add the books/novels sub-clause to the guide. - [[User:Silver|Silvery]] 11:08, 1 January 2012 (EST)

== Transformers Day ==

Though it may not be worth mentioning, a lot of Transformers shows and movies aired to day. First, Rescue Bots on the Hub at 11:30 am est. Then Revenge of the Fallen at 6:00 pm est on FX. Then season 2 of Prime and The Transformers: The Movie on the Hub.

My point is that so much Transformers was on today, it should be called Transformers Day. Was there any other day like this ever before with Transformers media?[[Special:Contributions/71.162.103.239|71.162.103.239]] 23:20, 18 February 2012 (EST)
:The Hub called today "Transformers Mega Saturday", but I think the FX airing of ROTF was a happy coincidence. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 23:30, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::There have been times when on FX, Revenge of the Fallen is on, and on TNT, the first movie is on, at the same time.[[Special:Contributions/71.162.103.239|71.162.103.239]] 23:47, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::: In fact, it's happen twice.[[Special:Contributions/71.162.103.239|71.162.103.239]] 23:49, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::::Different networks do different things. The live action movies are popular films to air on TV. Such coincidental happenings are not uncommon. FX just happened to air ROTF on this day. --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 00:08, 19 February 2012 (EST)

== Fall of Cybertron Release Date ==
I thought the official release date for Fall of Cybertron was August 28? So why does it say August 31 in the schedule? -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 18:00, 7 April 2012 (EDT)
:Hey yeah, that thing he said. My preorder is set for the 28th. Also, WIKI, Y U NO have countdown timer to release date? We have with basically everything else major (each movie, the first game, I THINK the ''Prime'' premier). --[[User:King Starscream|King Starscream]] 13:31, 10 August 2012 (EDT)

== Google+ ==
Until [[User:Derik|Derik]] puts the G+ link in the picture, I'm going to put the link in the sentence above it. -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 21:56, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
:People use Google+? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 22:12, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
::Haha, very funny. -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 22:37, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

== Main page disambiguation ==

There is a line at the top of the main page to disambiguate, but this wiki is not called Teltran any longer, so that line is no longer needed on this page. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 18:52, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
:What? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 19:07, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
::''TFWiki.net: the Transformers Wiki is the unofficial Transformers knowledge database of 16,131 pages that anyone can edit or add to! For the semi-sentient computer that can't tell the difference between Autobots and Decepticons, see Teletraan I.''
::This line is now unneeded, because the name of the wiki is no longer Teletran. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 20:21, 19 May 2012 (EDT)
:::I think he thinks that we were refering to wikia days. Were talking about the computer from the cartoon. ([[Special:Contributions/184.56.31.108|184.56.31.108]] 20:39, 19 May 2012 (EDT))
:::This line is random from a bunch of disambiguations referring to knowledge things in Transformersdom, such as [[Rad White]],[[Teletraan II]] and the [[Underbase]]. It's a joke, because we're also a place of Transformers knowledge. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 21:07, 19 May 2012 (EDT)

== New Rotation Image ==

Umm, what is that new rotation image about? It's rather strange... [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 22:57, 1 June 2012 (EDT)
:You mean [[Gari Robo-kun]]? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:01, 1 June 2012 (EDT)
::Well, couldn't you make it link to that page instead of ''Prime'' Optimus' page? How long are you going to use it, anyways?

How about putting some ''Fall of Cybertron'' characters in the mix? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 03:45, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
: For the thousandth time, I can add new characters when we get clear shots of them on blank, white backgrounds. FOC images so far have not been. I can't conjure usable images out of thin air. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 03:52, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
::Well, how about taking off those ''Animated'' Stunticons then? Seeing as another BotCon has come and gone, I don't see any reason for them to be on there. [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 12:56, 8 July 2012 (EDT)
:::You might even want to replace them with images of SG vs. Classics characters (if you have the necessary images, anyway). [[Special:Contributions/68.147.45.66|68.147.45.66]] 13:05, 8 July 2012 (EDT)
::::We don't, which is why I never did. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 13:25, 8 July 2012 (EDT)

== Formatting problems (just me?) ==

Now that the server has changed, all the formatting seems to have changed! Templates that should be on the right and next to the text (e.g. on episode pages) are on the left and pushing the text down! Is anyone else seeing these problems? --[[User:Flicky1991|Flicky1991]] 07:06, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
:It's not just you, I'm seeing it as well. --[[User:Boy Blunderous|Boy Blunderous]] 07:09, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
::We're on a newer version of MediaWiki, and it broke some of the templates. It'll be fixed soon, once we figure out why they're not formatting up right.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 07:22, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
:::As I said on the Community Portal just there, [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuration_settings#CSS.2FJs various LocalSettings.php variables] like $wgAllowUserCss and $wgUseSiteCss appear to have gone from "true" to "false" (or just plain deleted - I think they default false) in the move. - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 07:39, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

== Go Box problem? ==

The GoBox is currently not there, no matter which browser I view this page in. --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 07:50, 27 March 2013 (EDT)
:Same for me. Normally when it disappears all I have to do is refresh the page, but even that's not working at the moment. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 08:00, 27 March 2013 (EDT)
::The forum signature GoBoxes are knackered too. Those just come up as a white rectangle. Something is indeed amiss. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 09:00, 27 March 2013 (EDT)
:::So, is anyone on this yet? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 16:02, 27 March 2013 (EDT)

== Not On Schedule ==

Did IDW stop making TF comics? If not can we please update the Schedule? [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 13:01, 4 April 2013 (EDT)
:I don't keep track of the comics much, but I've had a bash at updating it with this month's releases. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:05, 4 April 2013 (EDT)
::That should be fine, I think so long as the next issues's release dates are on there. [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 16:19, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

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== TF:Prime jump-fight factoid ==

I've just started to watch Prime, and so far every episode I've seen has had someone do a dramatic jump slowed down jump before landing on someone they are fighting, (and sometimes the camera). It's quirky enough that it's stood out, and I was wondering if it's worth adding to the episode guides? I just wanted to know now because I'm going to be watching the whole of season one over the next few days, and it's easier if I know now than if it's added later. Failing that, is there anything else that people desperatly want added to the Prime episode guides that I should be looking out for? [[User:LiamK|LiamK]] 17:31, 23 January 2012 (EST)
:There is a certain level of ridiculous info you can get away with adding if you're a regular contributor doing serious and consistent work on the pages, and you handle it with sufficient comedic value. Ref: [[Enter the Nightbird|Brawn vs. Soundwave]], [[Countdown to Extinction (episode)|What Makes Starscream the Leader?]], etc. This could conceivably qualify as well, but approach with caution. -- [[User:Repowers|Repowers]] 21:22, 23 January 2012 (EST)
::Fair enough. It wasn't just going to be an adding silly jokes because oh ha ha I think I'm hilarious. I was going to add anything missing to the relevent pages as well. It's just that 5 episodes in, we've had at least 4 dramatic jumps into the camera, one dramatic jump away from the camera, and several semi-dramatic jumps off to the side. It's hilarious when characters like Bulkhead are apparently able to jump 500 feet into the air. If Springer ever shows up in this continuity family, he's gonna reach orbit.[[User:LiamK|LiamK]] 19:59, 25 January 2012 (EST)

== Expandible voice actor lists ==

There's been some noise about some of the voice actor lists getting too long and the need for a way to have them hidden unless the user expands them. I've done some test code which is [http://www.aldenbates.com/vatest.html currently hosted externally] but is easily converted into something that will work on the wiki. Currently tested on Firefox 9 and 10, Internet Explorer 6 and 8, Chrome 16, and Opera 11. Feedback, anyone? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:41, 31 January 2012 (EST)
:Although I was expecting a show/hide like how Wikipedia does its navigation templates, I don't mind this. Still needs a "hide" option, if that's possible. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 23:46, 31 January 2012 (EST)
::I've added in a hide option. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 00:21, 1 February 2012 (EST)
:::If you set up a <nowiki>{{voiceactors}}</nowiki> template it'd be easy to hide the 'extended' cast names and have them show up automatically if you mouse over. '''<tt><nowiki>{{voiceactors|DEFAULT-TO-VISIBLE|DEFAULT-TO-INVISIBLE}}</nowiki></tt>'''
:::It wouldn't even require Javascript, it could be pure CSS. Simpler is better, IMO. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 00:26, 1 February 2012 (EST)
::::I kinda dislike the idea of it opening on mouse-over, because it can have unexpected effects on the layout of the rest of the page if you're not paying attention to where you're moving your mouse pointer. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:32, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::I dislike mouse-over anything. Hide/show is a better interface. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 18:48, 7 February 2012 (EST)
::::::Add a third dislike vote for mouse-over. If we do this which (if any) voice actors should be visible without clicking? Only the primary English performer? All English performers? All English and Japanese? None? I vote for none. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 19:40, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::I vote for whatever hides the German voice actors. I'd put the English and Japanese actors on a higher tier of importance, but I'm not opposed to hiding them. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 19:48, 7 February 2012 (EST)
:::::::I think English and Japanese should always be shown, as they are the two biggest uh... markets? Whatever. Hide everything else, and DEFINITELY make the reveal a deliberate CLICK, not a mouseover. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 19:56, 7 February 2012 (EST)
Can we have this template now? I think everybody agrees that the extraneous VAs should be hidden. If people want to hide English and Japanese VAs, then that can be further discussed. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 10:48, 14 February 2012 (EST)

:[[Template:va]] (Should it be vas?)
:CSS entties which need to be added to the master file are as follows:
.tt1-voiceactorlist .tt1-extraneousFuckers{
display:none;
}
.tt1-voiceactorlist:hover .tt1-extraneousFuckers{
display:inline;
font-size:smaller;
}
.tt1-voiceactorlist.tt1-more:after{
content: "more";
padding-left:.5em;
font-size:smaller;
color:#999999;
}
.tt1-voiceactorlist:hover.tt1-more:after{
content: none;
}

:Styles are visible now if you've got [[User:Derik/kired tools|Kired Tools]] installed. Alternately you can paste the above into [[Special:Mypage/monacobook.css|your css file]] to get a look at it in action.

:If you want to make it Javascript that's beyond my remit, talk to one of the tech-guys. (Also I think it's a bad idea, but I'm against modifying the DOP for presentational purposes when there's already a markup language intended to control presentation: CSS. The wiki is currently Javascript 'light', I prefer to keep it that way.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 13:21, 14 February 2012 (EST)
::Why does it say "hiding the non English/Japanese voiceactors unless the user chooses to mouse over the list", I thought we had decided to make it use a click? --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 14:19, 14 February 2012 (EST)
::# I don't have the authority or access to implement that.
::# I think it's a terrible idea.
:::By all means, feel free to install the CSS styles (some CSS styles will be required regardless) and see what you think of this implementation.
:::The underlying HTML will be the same for a Javascript implementation anyway. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 15:13, 14 February 2012 (EST)
So, er, did we come to a decision on either of these methods? I have to admit I kinda forgot about it until now. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 02:13, 5 March 2012 (EST)
:I think consensus is to use clicks, not mouse-over, despite Derik's protests. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 04:13, 13 March 2012 (EDT)

== Facebook chat ==

Did the wiki have anyone at the TF Prime Facebook chat? -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 22:38, 6 February 2012 (EST)

==Moving (Prime)/(WFC)/(RB)/(FOC) to (Aligned)==
Considering that characters are part of the Aligned continuity family, like how [[Megatron (Animated)]] belong to the Animated continuity family and [[Megatron (G1)]] belongs to the Generation 1 continuity family.
:No, that's not how we do things. Disambiguations are made by franchise of origin, hence why it's [[Megatron (G1)]], but [[Terrorsaur (BW)]] rather than Terrorsaur (G1), or why it's [[Ironhide (Energon)]] rather than Ironhide (UT). This has been discussed ad infinitum but the consensus remains the same. The only exception has been that characters who debuted in WFC but also appear in Prime get (Prime) because of the slight iffyness of the Aligned family. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 10:26, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::(Edit conflict'd by Detour) I don't think we have an especially good, logical reason for why we do that with Aligned characters, other than that it simply feels very "wrong" to label a character with a prominent, regular fictional appearance in the ''Prime'' cartoon with a disambig based on their cameo appearance in a video game tie-in novel. Honestly, given that odd nature of the whole "Aligned" idea and the fact we're already breaking our standard with this continuity family's characters ''anyway'', I'm not entirely opposed to just using (Aligned) as a much handier, self-explanatory disambig, but I don't know if anyone would agree. It ''would'' feel odd, for instance, to label the Rescue Bots with that tag. And Bot Shots are a tremendous pain in the arse - it's so annoying when we have to create articles for Aligned Roadbuster and Topspin and whoever when the Bot Shots are just clearly the movieverse characters. The whole Aligned thing can sometimes be a real wiki-headache. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 10:32, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::Why DON'T they just get inserted into the Movie characters sections, then? [This thing applies to a lot of Hasbro's "fuzzier" lines of late, really - stuff's matched up with what other characters in the line are part of rather than just including them in an existing article for the version they're designed after]. - [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 10:41, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::::I think treating Bot Shots as part of Aligned is somewhat dubious. Is there a reason it can't be viewed as using characters from multiple continuity families? --[[User:KilMichaelMcC|KilMichaelMcC]] 11:00, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::We already discussed this [[Talk:Bot Shots|here]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:59, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
::::::We do that so we don't have to pick nits over where the characters belong. Bot Shots Optimus Prime could fit many of his various incarnations. I disagree with renaming them to (Aligned), somewhat because all of the (WFC) guys will eventually be moved to (Prime), anyway. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:48, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
But should (Prime)/(WFC)/(RB)/(FOC) be renamed (Aligned) or not?--[[User:Finister2|Finister2]] 05:43, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:No. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 11:29, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::Why?--[[User:Finister2|Finister2]] 13:55, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:::It's already been explained why. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:40, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Universal, properly-translated names of the Japanese Beast Wars/Beast Machines episodes ==

Okay, this has been bothering me for a while. On each page of the [[Beast Wars: Transformers (cartoon)#Episodes|Beast Wars]] and [[Beast Machines: Transformers (cartoon)#Episodes|Beast Machines]] episode, the Japanese title of each episode is given an English translation in each page's Foreign Localization section. And on the [[Geneon Universal Entertainment|Geneon]] page, under the sections of its Beast Wars, Beast Wars Metals, and Beast wars Returns releases, the Japanese episode titles are also translated into English. What's bothering me is that certain episodes are given slightly differently-translated English names when comparing those given on the actual episode pages to those given on the Geneon page. Here's a list of each differing episode title. The episode page names are on the left, and the Geneon page names are on the right:
:"The Solitary Warrior Tigatron" vs. "Lonely Warrior Tigatron"
:"Goodbye, Rattle!?" vs. "Goodbye Rattle!?"
:"The Falcon Warrior Airrazor" vs. "Falcon Warrior Airazor"
:"Floating Island Death Match Part 1" vs. "Floating Island Deathmatch Part 1"
:"Floating Island Death Match Part 2" vs. "Floating Island Deathmatch Part 2"
:"The Destrons' Dramatic Finish" vs. "The Destrons Make Drama"
:"Two Dinobots?" vs. "There are 2 Dinobots?"
:"The Ant Warrior from Hell, Inferno" vs. "Inferno, the Ant Warrior from Hell"
:"Revive, Beast Power!" vs. "Resurrected Beast Power"
:"The Immortal Starscream" vs. "Starscream's Invulnerability"
:"Fare Thee Well, Tigatron" vs. "Farewell Tigatron"
:"The Great King of Terror Arrives!" vs. "The King of Terror Arrives!"
:"You're Under Arrest, Meow" vs. "Meyow're Under Arrest"
:"Gro~w Bigger" vs. "Groooww Bigger"
:"I Am Resurrected, Dā" vs. "I am Resurrected!"
:"Blaze, Dragon" vs. "Blazing Dragon"
:"I Hath Returned" vs. "We Have Returned"
:"Resurrection of the Legend" vs. "Rebirth of the Legend"
:"The Dearly Wished Transformation" vs. "The Transformation of a Dear Wish"
:"The Memory of a Friend" vs. "Memory of a Friend"
:"Mission of the Stars" vs. "Message of the Stars"
:"The Moment of Truth" vs. "The End"
:"Captured Souls" vs. "Capture of the Spirits"
:"The Hellish All-out Attack" vs. "The General Offensive of Hell"
:"The Course of the Future" vs. "The Fate of the Future"
Could someone who's more adept at Japanese please clarify which titles should be universally used on this Wiki, and help in an attempt to create a greater sense of unity between the individual episode pages and the Geneon page (and with any other such pages on this Wiki as well)? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 01:29, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:The titles on the episode pages are more refined. Not to mention it would be easier to change the titles on a single page. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:58, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::"I Hath Returned"? That's incorrect English. "Hath" was third person singular, not first person ("he hath" not "I hath"). --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 08:10, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:::[[User:Apcog|Apcog]] translated that. I recall the intention was to capture the old-timey connotation of the original Japanese. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 08:21, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:Something else that has me pondering are the specific choices made in spelling and grammar of a few of these titles. Like, the inclusion of a "The" where it may not need be (like in "The Solitary Warrior Tigatron" instead of just "Solitary Warrior Tigatron", or "The Falcon Warrior Airrazor" vs. "Falcon Warrior Airazor") or the use a comma (like in "Goodbye, Rattle!?" as opposed to "Goodbye Rattle!?") or a space between two words instead of making them a compound word ("Death Match" vs. "Deathmatch"), and the synonymous use of "Resurrect(ion)", "Rebirth", and "Revive". In these cases, are the titles on the episode pages truly the more precise titles, or could they also use some amending? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:20, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::Most of those details are up to the translator's discretion. But, like I said, it's easier to just edit the Genon page rather than across multiple articles. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 11:33, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Category:Deceased ==
Sub-categories
*Category:Deceased (Generation 1 cartoon)
**Category:Deceased (Marvel comics)
**Category:Deceased (BW)
*Category:Deceased (Armada)
*Category:Deceased (Energon)
*Category:Deceased (Movie)
**Category:Deceased (ROTF)
**Category:Deceased (DOTM)
*Category:Deceased (SG)
*Category:Deceased (Animated)
*Category:Deceased (Aligned)

Why not?--[[User:Finister2|Finister2]] 05:52, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

:"Deceased" is a stupid idea on a wiki that focuses on fiction with multiple continuities, time periods, vague "deaths", and resurrections. All characters will inevitably die at one point. This is not a warranted category. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 05:55, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

::Vote for "No".
::A character may get killed in a sub-continuity but alive in another. Not to mention if the character will be resurrected or not. (So, we don't need Category:Resurrected characters, either.) --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 10:11, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
:::It is an appealing idea, to have categories for characters that are deceased "now." If they are patched up, they get removed from the category. I would have changed the categories to "Deceased (Movieverse)" and "Deceased (UT cartoon)" since they are supposed to be all one continuity. The only problem I see is vague deaths and continuity inconsistencies. People would probably disagree with me that [[Brawn (G1)]] obviously survived that shot to the shoulder. So, unfortunately, I can't fully endorse the idea. - [[User:Starfield|Starﬁeld]] 11:08, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::::If we go by continuity, we are going to have a ''lot'' of "Deceased" categories. And you could only do it by continuity, which goes against our current methods to have categories by franchise. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:46, 10 April 2012 (EDT)
::I agree with you guys in regards to characters. but, what about a category for ''real'' people who have been involved with the Transformers franchise (like voice actors, designers, writers, etc.) who are deceased? --[[User:Sabrblade|Sabrblade]] 11:11, 10 April 2012 (EDT)

== Scheduled downtime. ==

Our hoster is moving servers around tomorrow. One of ours is gonna be moved starting between "Thu Apr 12 23:00:00 UTC 2012 and Fri Apr 13 05:00:00 UTC 2012." So that'll happen. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 21:52, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
:I presume all the necessary backups have been made? --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 22:37, 11 April 2012 (EDT)
::Regularly, like clockwork. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 00:51, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

==Category: Cats==
Presumably we have some kind of unwritten "We don't categorise by altmode" rule in play here, so I apologise if my adding a bunch of characters to this category seemed heavy-handed but in my defence the distinction between ''Shattered Glass'' Steeljaw and G1 Ravage is, eh, pretty much non-existent, Cheetor himself says "I'm a cat", it's a subset of Characters by species and we have K-9 under Dogs, so it's hardly black and white. But my main reason for doing it was that in SEO terms, having the word "Cats" repeatedly linked a bunch of times throughout the wiki is really quite useful, as in the wider internet cats are kind of a big deal. Real effing kitten calendars and all that. Isn't that something to consider? --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 03:47, 26 April 2012 (EDT)
:Categorizing by alternate mode has been brought up several times, but nobody has bothered to hammer out the details and do it. I don't particularly care for it one way or another, but putting Transformers in plain categories like "Cats" and "Watercraft" based on alternate mode makes them useless to those who only want to know about actual cats or watercraft in ''Transformers''. That said, I completely fail to see the relevance of Internet memes to our categorization system. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 03:59, 26 April 2012 (EDT)
::Well, just that keywords are good for search engines, keywords that link to relevant pages even better and lots of people search for cats on the internet. I know that my girlfriend does and at a time like this (when my birthday is coming up) it's not impossible that she might search for "Transformers cats". If that led her to, say, SG Ravage's page (which is quite accessible to an internet-savvy non-fan with its twitter references and Walky's cartoons) then she may well stick around to find out more, and maybe look for more Transformers cats through the category links at the bottom of the page. At the moment our first link in a Google search is Snow Cat, who's kinda cool but you'd probably have to be a GI Joe fan to really get it. I dunno, I'm just spitballing here, but part of my job is SEO so I hope I at least know something like what I'm talking about. Anyway, that was my line of thinking. If it's problematic then that's fine, but I'm not really convinced by the "people looking for actual cats or watercraft in ''Transformers''" argument either - on a TF wiki I think they'd assume Transformers that turn into either of those things would be included by default. They are robots in disguise, after all. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 14:36, 26 April 2012 (EDT)

== Google + ==
I've made a Google + for the wiki. I just need someone to link it to the main page because I don't know how. This is the link: https://plus.google.com/106006102124340784739 -- [[User:Spydersix|Spydersix]] 19:00, 30 April 2012 (EDT)

== Alt-mode listings ==

I've seen several things here discussing listing alt-modes by ''category'', but I'm looking for something a bit less complicated. I would really appreciate having each character's page at least openly list their alt-mode in the beginning; as it stands, some pages do not make it clear what that character turns into, generally only mentioning it in passing or in screenshots. I think some kind of fill-in-the-blanks template would work well, the kind they use on Wikipedia for comic book superheroes that have sections for code names, secret identities, a brief list of abilities, etc. It doesn't even have to be that thorough, just a small piece under the page's main picture that has "name, alt-mode, faction" would be a nice change of pace. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 15:15, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
:Your idea is impractical because many characters have had numerous altmodes. Listing all of them would be ridiculously long while trying to generalize them down to a single listing would be useless. For example, [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]]. The casual fan might assume that you could just list his altmode as "semi truck" and be done with it. But he has also been a bat, a Lambourghini Diablo and a shoe. And that doesn't even get into what kind of "semi truck" he is: cab over engine like the original or long nose like the Generation 2 version. And does it have a sleeper. With or without trailer. And you still haven't covered his non-Earth modes. None of the Cybertronian forms we have seen looks anything like any of the others. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 15:29, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
::I don't care one way or the other, but we could hide the minor alternate modes, the same as we do with voice actors. [[User:Interrobang|—Interrobang]] 15:40, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
:While I agree that we should do our best to list alt-modes, at the beginning of the article doesn't seem like the most efficient place to do it. Rather, we should continue listing the alt-mode in the description of the various toys and work on filling in those that are lacking. - [[User:Shellspark|Shellspark]] 16:26, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
: Well, there are a lot of fiction-only altmodes going on. I could see this working as a Notes subsection, possibly as a gallery. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 17:27, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
:: Yeah, that's why I always attempt to get an image of each altmode in the fiction section as they appear. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:56, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

==Redundant foreign names==
According to Interrobang:
:"''So? It's been the standard for a long time and exactly how do you expect readers to know that Japan uses the same name without noting it?''"
1) No, it has NOT been "the standard for a long time". In fact, we didn't do this for YEARS. You're the one who seems to have decided, fairly recently, to pull this crap. Like with "mammoth". 
2) Well. Why don't we just list every country in the world that also uses that name? After all, how exactly are we to know if the Canadians don't not call her Airachnid, or the Germans, or the Zimbabweans (holy shit "Zimbabweans" is ''correct''?), or the other 190-odd nations across the globe? Oh wait, because we can use some incredibly base deductive reasoning and assume that unless a ''different'' name is listed for a country, ''it's the same name and we don't need to fucking list it there just so you can get a katakana-boner''. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:45, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
:There is the argument to be made that not including a foreign name leaves the reader unable to know if the character either has the same name in that country, or if that information is just ''missing'' from the article. Not that I disagree that it ''really'' seems to have got out of control, to the point that the Japanese words for "doctor" or "scientist" or "coach" or "mammoth" are being added to nameless characters' articles. I enjoyed our older attitude that basically amounted to "fuck katanana unless necessary to explain something". - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 07:05, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
::The counter-argument was already made above. ''Transformers'' is a global brand now, and it's basically a waste of space to list every country where Optimus Prime is called "Optimus Prime" (or as close as they can get phonetically), and better to assume that it is "Optimus Prime" unless otherwise noted. The ''probability'' that the name is the same is pretty damn good nowadays, especially in Japan. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 07:34, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
:::I'm sympathetic. If somebody actually does go through the trouble to track down what Airachnid is called in Zimbabwean and it ends up being "Airachnid" then if they put the information down, then nobody else will have to go through the trouble of looking it up. What if redundant foreign names are left <nowiki></nowiki> - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 10:04, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
::::I hate seeing redundant names, but I agree that a certain degree of "is this already known?" may exist in a vacuum. I'm not opposed to leaving them in the code but commented out to keep them out of the page itself. -[[User:LV|LV]] 00:00, 4 May 2012 (EDT)
:::::Would it be acceptable to have a template that displays the foreign names, but hides or combines entries if the names are not unique? The template might also be able to auto-categorize by "characters missing ''language'' names", too.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 18:49, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

==Toy Fair/Pre-Toy Fair Catalogues==
Collectively we went all out on getting hold of the 86 PTF catalogue when it popped up on eBay and have a nice page with full scans of it (I say "we" I completely missed that fund-raising drive). Going forward, is it a feasible aim for other Toy Fair and Pre-Toy Fair cats to be collected for the Wiki or is 86 known to be the only one of significant interest? I ask because I just stumbled upon an eBay seller with the 88 TF cat (which I'd hoped to procure for use on my Visionaries wiki) and some early 90s ones, all of which are beyond my means, but at relatively reasonable prices. Can't link to them on my phone, but I thought I'd mention it in case they are of significant interest like the 86 one was. [[User:Danja|Danja]] 03:45, 6 May 2012 (EDT)

== Google Chrome ==
Does anybody else experience a ''really'' slow connection to only this site while using Google Chrome? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 21:42, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

FYI: <nowiki>{{bigquote}}</nowiki> overlaps images in Google Chrome, like on [[Thaddeus Morocco|Morocco]]. I don't know when that started. - [[User:Starfield|Starfield]] 16:03, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Now, the <nowiki>{{picsneeded}}</nowiki> tag overlaps the top of the episode template. It might just be my computer, but I don't know. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:28, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

:These layout problems are apparently an issue with the latest version of Chrome. I guess they'll get fixed in the next release or something. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:10, 31 May 2012 (EDT)
::There's been two new versions of Chrome since you said that, [[User:Abates|abates]], and it hasn't been fixed, so I'm reporting it to Google. Like that's gonna work. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 10:09, 19 June 2012 (EDT)
:::Is this problem still happening? --[[User:Abates|abates]] 05:22, 15 October 2012 (EDT)
::::Wow, completely forgot about this. And no, since I reported it to Google, it's been fixed. I'm surprised. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 06:26, 15 October 2012 (EDT)

== Transformers 4 ==
Does anyone mind if I take a stab at creating a page for it? I'm not some idiot who's gonna create a crappy page with no effort. Or is it ''way'' to early to do that? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 19:03, 6 June 2012 (EDT)
:I'd say wait until at least the first poster appears on the Internet, then you'll have some sort of image to put in. Really though it is a bit too early, if everything goes to plan TF4 won't be out for another two years, so the TF4 article would be sitting around with nothing on it for at least a year before we start getting concrete information. [[User:TurboFox|TurboFox]] 17:06, 24 August 2012 (EDT)

== Prime game ==
What do people think about putting [[Transformers: Prime - The Game|Transformers Prime: The Game]] in the nav bar? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 09:47, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
:Or we can replace the link to the Prime cartoon page with a link to the Prime franchise page, that way it avoids overcluttering the navbar. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 14:15, 10 June 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah, that also might work. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 09:23, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
:::At least 95% of the people who click on that are likely to be looking for info on the cartoon, and I feel like if we have Rescue Bots and Dark of the Moon pointing to the cartoon/film rather than the franchises, we should aim to be consistent with our navigation. We'll presumably have to add [[Transformers Universe]] there eventually anyway. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 16:46, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
::::Yeah, I forgot about that. We probably can take Dark of the Moon to declutter it. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 16:50, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::We could divide things up with subheaders or just by putting darker lines in to split up the links. Man, I wish there was a way to easily add in more links without cluttering up the menu too much. It feels like we should have links to current toylines as well, and maybe the current IDW comics. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:21, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::Yeah probably, but what can you do, right? And I like that subheader idea. And on a different note, "Transformers Prime: The Game" is a mouthful. How can we abbreviate that? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:36, 11 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::: TF Prime: The Game??? [[User:Bumblebee2000|Bumblebee2000]] 08:19, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::::Probably the best we can do. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 13:37, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::On abbreviating the name, as everything on the wiki is Transformers, you can say "Prime: The Game" instead of "TF Prime: The Game". The "TF" is assumed. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 15:30, 13 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::So what are we going to do about this nav bar? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 18:17, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::Are we using the <nowiki>{{Primecap}}</nowiki> template for images from it? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 10:07, 13 June 2012 (EDT)

:::::::::::Be patient. This stuff never happens overnight. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 18:50, 12 June 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::::Not exactly overnight anymore, two months later. As you might be able to tell, patience is not my strong suit. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 12:10, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Sorry, I meant to have a go at fiddling with the lines to break the menu up a bit but I forgot. I'll have a go at it this weekend. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 17:16, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
::::::::::::::Sweet! -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 17:33, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
:::::::::::::::''Niiiiccceeee.'' -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:10, 1 September 2012 (EDT)
I have added this and taken out Dark of the Moon, since that's been out for over a year. I was going to add [[Transformers Universe]], but I realised we still don't have a release date for that. I've also added darker lines under the "Main Page" and under the navigation links which are actual articles rather than Wiki things, which will hopefully make those links more grouped in function. You might have to force a refresh to see those. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 22:12, 1 September 2012 (EDT)
:I see them. Nice looking. And I'll let you know when we have a release date. I check every day. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]] 22:16, 1 September 2012 (EDT)

I think I'm leaning towards moving the ''[[Transformers: Prime - The Game|Prime: The Game]]'' page to ''Transformers Prime - The Game'', since that's how the official website writes it. So the Nav bar might have to get changed. Just a heads up. -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 17:31, 10 October 2012 (EDT)

== Rare/Unkown vintage G1 Walkie Talkie toys? ==

Hi guys. I was just browsing ebay and came across 3 old G1 Walkie Talkies that don't appear to be mentioned on the wiki anywhere.
#1- [http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-Walkie-Talkie-ROBOT-1987-Hasbro-Inc/270982316728/ This] one appears to be an Argentinian Transformer with the mold licensed from Commando Toys.
#2 [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Transformers-G1-Walkie-Talkies-Boxed-/300654034838?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item4600607f96/ These] guys appear to be unnamed generics.
#3 [http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REAL-VTG-80s-TRANSFORMERS-INTERCOM-TELEPHONE-SYSTEM-WIRED-WALKIE-TALKIE-NIB-MIB-/360458042129?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item53ecf93b11 This] one features two Optimus Primes as an "Electronic Intercom Telephone System" (which seems to basically be two walkie talkies connected via a wire). Box says made by Nasta in lager photos and check out that goofy looking transformation sequence.

I'm not entirely sure if any of these are legit as I've never seen them mentioned anywhere else before. Anyone else know more info about these? Should they be added to wiki? [[User:RavenG|RavenG]] 02:27, 16 June 2012 (EDT)
:I used to have a set of #2, but I've no idea where they are now. They were pretty common in the UK I think. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 03:17, 19 July 2012 (EDT)

== Technical Contact (and passwords) ==

Hi, guys. It's Botch the Crab... though I can't sign in as my account. I lost my password. I don't know what email address is associated with the account, but whichever one it is, when I did the "forgot password" thing and was told a new password was emailed to me, I never received any emails.

So my first question is: who can help me re-claim my account?

My second question is: who are the technical administrators of the wiki, and is that information posted somewhere that I couldn't find? I tried contacting Chris McFeely and David Willis, but neither of them were able to help, nor did they know who
would. So! Suggestions?

:I tried emailing your username, but it didn't work... It said that I need to be logged in with a valid email set, but I had done both of those things. Can any other user successfully send an email to [[User:Botch the Crab]]? Because it might be the email module that isn't working and that's why you can't reset your password. I don't think the MediaWiki framework has been updated since 2008 (we're running [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Release_notes/1.12#MediaWiki_1.12.0 MediWiki 1.12.0]), and if David Willis doesn't know who's running the tech (seeing as how [http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/tfwiki.net he registered this site), it makes me think that there are not any people doing that. I could be mistaken, but I think there are only admins that are affecting change within the MW software.
:As far as I know, once a password to a MW site is lost there is no recovery outside of email, at least that is the case for WP. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 17:49, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

::I just tried sending an email to Botch and it worked, though the copy I sent myself ended up in my gmail spam folder. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:48, 16 June 2012 (EDT)

:::You're right, I had to confirm my email address and now I can email, although emails from this site were marked as spam for me as well. Botch, I can only hope that you haven't checked your spam folder. [[User:JohnnyMrNinja|JohnnyMrNinja]] 00:54, 17 June 2012 (EDT)

:Thanks for all the help, guys. Unfortunately, I haven't received any of the "new password" emails. (Yes, I keep checking the spam folder.) The frustrating part is that without being able to sign in, I cannot confirm ''which'' email address these are being sent to. All my emails are forwarded to my gmail account, so I have no idea why I wouldn't receive them. It's a mystery. It's weird to think it's possible that none of the administrators have the access or ability to solve this.--[[User:Botch|Botch]] 23:18, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
::I thought Scout and/or McFly were doing our technical stuff. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 23:27, 18 June 2012 (EDT)
:::I'm pretty sure that Scout and I have been over this fairly often: We're pretty damned busy, so we're not monitoring the Community Portal pages. If someone's forgotten their password AND the associated email address, there's no real secure way to get them back in. Email addresses aren't exposed to us until we get down to the to SQL DB layer, barring some additional extensions that would expose everyone's information to a trusted few. I strongly suggest making a new account in the interim, while we discuss the repercussions of adding some more User Management extensions, and figuring out who we can trust. I'll tell you this much, though: If your password isn't basically a random scramble of characters and symbols, I wouldn't trust you with maintenance access. It's like giving a handgun to a chimp. (Not picking on anyone in particular, but let's keep this in mind as we start adding cooks to the kitchen.) --[[User:McFly|McFly]] 11:54, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

:Sad update: I managed to scrounge up the database password from some old notes, and I've got your email address: Same one listed on your website. If you can disable whatever's filtering out your spam, that might help, since your site mentions some sort of sender-response mechanism. Poor old Mediawiki is too stupid/honest to pretend that she's a human.--[[User:McFly|McFly]] 12:11, 1 August 2012 (EDT)

== Captions need to go ==

It seems I am not the only one who finds the caption "humor" annoying and irrelevant to the photo it is placed with. I see in huge bold letters 'THE FUNNY STAYS. -The Management' So it seems this is not the first time someone has brought this up.

It seems " The Management " are the few people who get their kicks from such while the rest of the users are stuck just rolling their eyes. I for one will no longer be visiting this wiki because of such.

The nail in the coffin for me was a caption that I looked up as I wondered why I didn't get the "joke" as I seen tons of Xformer related shows. Heaven forbid the joke had nothing to do with transformers, only the person who wrote the joke and a small selection of people probably will understand it.

Just a little FYI 90% of the captions are unfunny, I would dare say 30% or more have nothing to do with xformers.

(sorry if this is in the wrong place, sort of new to wiki's and I wish the first thing I could have posted here would have been positive. I believe this is really positive and will help the wiki more than any article I could have wrote.)
: Thank you for leaving. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 02:11, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

:Eh, the majority of the time when I stumble on a discussion on wikis on other sites, people will cite TFWiki and Wookiepedia as the best, and are generally complimentary about the humour, so while we occasionally get complaints about it, it seems like the majority of people like it. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 03:29, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

: I also believe that anything else you would have contributed to the wiki would have been less useful than this. --[[User:M Sipher|M Sipher]] 06:58, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

:....xformers? Is spelling out Transformers properly now "2 kool for skool"? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 07:32, 21 June 2012 (EDT)

:The Funny '''STAYS'''. --'''[[User:TX55|TX55]]'''''[[User talk:TX55|TALK]]'' 09:26, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

:I'd note that if you want a serious TF wiki, there's an abandoned Wikia wiki that nobody seems to have gotten the bright idea of turning into one yet instead of always trying to convert this one. --[[Special:Contributions/108.176.195.222|108.176.195.222]] 01:43, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

::Some people here have actually mentioned this idea to the wikia "community", but they seem hellbent on remaining a poor copy of this site. The fact that they have barely added any pages since this site began while we have doubled in size doesn't seem to register to some of the people over there. --[[User:Khajidha|Khajidha]] 02:37, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

: If you feel that bad about it then write some of your own on the Pics with out Captions. (hell knows that ultra magnus "I can deal with that" has been done to death)[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 09:38, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
::To be fair, serious captions, unless vital to the understanding of the picture, tend to get rewritten here. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 18:42, 22 June 2012 (EDT)

== Spoiler titles ==

Something which came up last month, but I didn't want to bring it up at the time because it would only have compounded the problem.

The title for [[How Ratchet Got His Hands Back|IDW MtMtE #5]] was placed at the '''end''' of the issue, [http://www.comics.org/issue/26304/cover/4/ "The Night Gwen Stacy Died"]-style (rather than the typical beginning/first splash page), because it was ''itself'' a spoiler.

So, of course, every page which had a {{tl|spoiler}}-tag for the issue plastered it in the spoiler tag itself.

There's got to be a better way of doing this if a comic gets a spoiler-title again. -- [[User:Mammalian Verisimilitude|Mammalian Verisimilitude]] 20:19, 7 July 2012 (EDT)
:The spoiler tags could have linked to the "More than Meets the Eye issue 5" redirect instead (the issue was originally created there to avoid just that problem, but then it got moved to the actual title anyway) --[[User:Abates|abates]] 20:30, 7 July 2012 (EDT)

Speaking of SPOILERS, is there any way people could ''stop'' putting them up for comics before the issues actually come out? By sheer happenstance, I just came across some significant details on the Wiki about the DJD, their leader, and their membership that I honestly would have preferred to read for myself when it's published. It was posted by long time members, so I'm assuming it's legit and came from SDCC or somewhere, but there are no sources so I can't be sure. If an anon posted that stuff, I probably would have removed it as typical Wikipedia fanfic trying to creep in.

Regardless, it's getting tough to come onto the TFwiki because of this stuff. Whenever a new 5-page preview for RID or MTMTE comes out, people are immediately updating the crew on the ''Lost Light'' page, adding place-holder storylinks to pages for new characters showing up, and just generally revealing every detail they can extract from the previews ahead of time. I get that avoiding spoilers on the internet is a luxury nowadays, but these previews come out nearly a week in advance for each of IDW's two series. Its one thing to avoid SPOILERS-labeled topics in a message board...its another to avoid the entire TFwiki for a third of every month to dodge preview materials. --[[User:Xaaron|Xaaron]] 21:52, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
:This one I'll have to own, as 'twas me that did the deed. It was, as you speculated, another five page preview from IDW. I'd ''hoped'' the details I put in weren't too spoilery, as in the leader's case it was mostly putting a name to details we'd found out issues before. I can only apologize and try to be a bit more careful.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:11, 20 July 2012 (EDT)
::I'll also say that I was going to stick the group shot of them up on the wiki, but I can hold off if you think that would be best.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 22:40, 20 July 2012 (EDT)

== Autobot Communications officer in Headmasters ==

<nowiki>[[Image:Hm - autobot communications officer.jpg|thumb]]</nowiki>
Hey, this guy appeared in a single episode of Heamasters where he was the communications officer on-duty at Autobot City. ...does anyone know which episode? -[[User:Derik|Derik]]
:[[The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 1)]]. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 01:27, 18 July 2012 (EDT)
::Sir, you are a gentleman and a [[Transformerology|Transformerologist]]. -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:47, 18 July 2012 (EDT)

== Connection issues ==

Is it just me or are there problems with the wiki's server or in how many connections it can manage at a time? I've not been around for awhile and have noticed that if I spend a few hours reading or editing the wiki, it randomly stops working for periods between 5 minutes to half an hour, which is a problem if I've just made a large edit to something. In fact, in the few minutes that it took for me to write this, it twice stopped working (so I couldn't preview the edit), and that was after sitting around for perhaps 10 minutes waiting for the wiki to allow me to open the community portal page. --[[User:FFN|FFN]] 15:00, 2 August 2012 (EDT)
:I get this a lot, usually only for short periods but quite regularly. Either it just hangs or I get the "unable to serve page" error. Usually halfway through a big edit too, which is why I keep a text editor open to cut and paste stuff into. --[[User:Emvee|Emvee]] 04:41, 30 August 2012 (EDT)

Have these server outages always happened? -- [[User:Spydersix|spyder]][[User Talk:Spydersix|Use this!]] 21:26, 20 October 2012 (EDT)

==Adding to the Armada cartoon article==

Hello! New guy around here! I would like to add information about Home Video releases of Transformers Armada to its article. As I have no authorization to add to it, here is the information I can provide:

- Home Video Release in Bulgaria:
In Bulgaria "IP Video" released the complete series, spread across 15 volumes, as well as a "Best of" DVD. The DVDs were also distributed with a weekly newspaper upon their intial release. Volumes 1-8 contain 3 episodes each, with volumes 9-15 and the "Best of" DVD containing 4 episodes each.

Transformers: Armada vol.1 - First Encounter
Transformers: Armada vol.2 - Soldier
Transformers: Armada vol.3 - Palace
Transformers: Armada vol.4 - Ruins
Transformers: Armada vol.5 - Swoop
Transformers: Armada vol.6 - Conspiracy
Transformers: Armada vol.7 - Decisive Battle
Transformers: Armada vol.8 - Chase
Transformers: Armada vol.9 - Detection
Transformers: Armada vol.10 - Runaway
Transformers: Armada vol.11 - Rescue
Transformers: Armada vol.12 - Crisis
Transformers: Armada vol.13 - Uprising (The Unicron Battles - part 1)
Transformers: Armada vol.14 - Dash (The Unicron Battles - part 2)
Transformers: Armada vol.15 - Union (The Unicron Battles - part 3)
{{unsigned|Jazz93|14:55, 29 August 2012}}

== I ♥ you guys ==

Am I the only one who sees ♥'s everywhere in the RecentChanges page?

Did we screw up the CSS while adding an admin? -[[Special:Contributions/67.6.127.163|67.6.127.163]] 23:03, 29 August 2012 (EDT)
:You don't see them if you're logged in.--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 19:10, 30 August 2012 (EDT)
::I think if you're logged in, you still see them if you have the enhanced Recent Changes turned off, because Derik only coded them for the simple version of RC. --[[User:Abates|abates]] 21:39, 1 September 2012 (EDT)

== Not On Schedule ==

Did IDW stop making TF comics? If not can we please update the Schedule? [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 13:01, 4 April 2013 (EDT)

Blitzwing (G1)

2013-03-25T13:28:25Z

Phantom: /* IDW Generation 1 continuity */ Done & Dusted

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:''Blitzwing is a [[Decepticon]] [[Triple Changer]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family|Generation 1]] [[continuity family]].''

[[File:Blitzwingg1.jpg|350px|thumb|"Blitzwing has no feet. Blitzwing needs no feet!"]]
'''Blitzwing''' is loud. He likes to think he has a sense of humor, but what he considers funny is, more often than not, offensively cruel. Obnoxious, belligerent, and nasty, he makes even his fellow Decepticons feel uneasy. His anti-social tendencies can relegate Blitzwing to an outsider status. Due to his social isolation, he's able to see the bigger picture; he can see when his teammates are being played by unseen forces. Of course, if he thinks the trap is amusing enough, he might just let it happen anyway.

{{bigquote|Tell me what's on your mind, or I'll splatter it on the wall and see for myself!|Blitzwing|"[[Triple Takeover]]"}}

==Fiction==
===Generation 1 cartoon continuity===
====''The Transformers'' cartoon====
{{voiceactor|[[Ed Gilbert]] (English), [[Keiichi Nanba]] (Japanese), [[Masashi Ebara]] (Japanese, ''[[The Transformers: The Movie|The Movie]]'')|[[Roberto Alexander]] (Latin American), [[Gerhard Acktun]] (German, "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3"), [[Hans-Rainer Müller]] (German, "Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5"), [[Thomas Rauscher]] (German, ''The Movie'' TV Dub), [[Claus Brockmeyer]] (German, ''Generation 2'', "The Golden Lagoon" and "Prime Target"), [[Kai Taschner]] (German, ''Generation 2'', "Triple Takeover")}}
[[File:G1 Blitzwing crushed season 2 intro.JPG|thumb|250px|Poor guy got crushed 49 times.]]
In an unknown battle, Blitzwing is crushed under the foot of [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. The damage looks extensive, but he is picked up by [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]] and hauled away. {{storylink|Title sequence|Season 2 title sequence}}

[[File:GoldenLagoon BlitzwingWarpath.JPG|left|200px|thumb|LANDMASTERS!!!]]
Blitzwing appeared out of nowhere to join [[Megatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Megatron]]'s forces on [[Earth]] in 1985, and was first seen on a mission to steal [[energon]] from [[Dinobot Island (G1)|Dinobot Island]]. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 1}} The [[Autobot]]s eventually arrived to halt their scheme, and Blitzwing got into a tank duel with [[Warpath (G1)|Warpath]]. {{storylink|Dinobot Island, Part 2}} Later adventures of Blitzwing included suffering from [[cybertonium]] depletion just like everybody else, {{storylink|Desertion of the Dinobots, Part 1}} then fighting Warpath again and coating himself in [[electrum]]. {{storylink|The Golden Lagoon}}

Blitzwing and a team of other Decepticons came searching for the [[robotic insecticide]] the Autobots had come up with, but when they came to the valley, they found it full of [[Morphobot]]s. After the Autobots arrived to pick up [[Cosmos (G1)|Cosmos]], Megatron ordered [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Ramjet (G1)|Ramjet]], and Blitzwing to attack. However, the Morphobots ended up incapacitating the Decepticons and slammed them on the ground. {{storylink|Quest for Survival}}

For someone as powerful as he is, Blitzwing did not have the best track record when it comes to decision-making. First, he and fellow [[Triple Changer]] [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] decided to do away with both Megatron and [[Starscream (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Starscream]] and strike out on their own in search of fame, fortune, and energon. While this would normally be considered suicidal, the two Triple Changers somehow pulled it off and were free to finally do whatever it took to wipe out those pesky Autobots once and for all.

[[File:TripleTakeover Blitzwing coach.jpg|200px|thumb|IMMA EAT CHOO!]]
The way they chose to do this, however, did not do much to inspire confidence in their abilities. While his partner went off to play with some trains, Blitzwing's personal strategy for victory was to kidnap a football coach under the mistaken impression that the human was some kind of master strategist. Blitzwing brought the [[Constructicon (G1)|Constructicons]] in on his plan, and used them to build a maze surrounding the entry to his base/stadium. To Blitzwing's credit, a lot of the Autobots crashed into each other (and required more extensive repairs once he got to them), but soon, the Constructicons demanded a share of the leadership, and then Astrotrain arrived. All three were beaten so quickly by Megatron that it was almost embarrassing, and Blitzwing crept carefully back to the [[Decepticon]] ranks, hoping that nobody would remember what had happened. {{storylink|Triple Takeover}}

Not long afterwards, Megatron was impressed by [[Chumley|Lord Chumley]]'s Autobot-capturing skills, and sent Blitzwing and Astrotrain to negotiate a deal with the human. Shortly after arriving at Chumley's castle, Blitzwing got himself caught in a trap meant for [[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Optimus Prime]], and Chumley [[Chumley's arachnoid drones|captured]] both Triple Changers for getting in the way of his Autobot hunting. After all of his traps failed, Chumley released Blitzwing and Astrotrain as a last ditch attempt to capture Prime, but they just tried to stomp him to death before flying back home. {{storylink|Prime Target (episode)|Prime Target}}

A [[Size changing|strangely-enormous Blitzwing]] served as transport when the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] captured Perceptor, who had created [[Corrostop|the cure]] for [[Cosmic Rust (disease)|a disease Megatron had picked up]]. Although Blitzwing was stalked by the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]], a [[Lightning Bug]] attack from Dirge and Ramjet stalled them so Blitzwing could safely make it back to Decepticon headquarters. {{storylink|Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust}}

[[File:TFTM KupBlitzwing.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Viagra.]]
Blitzwing was also present during [[Battle of Autobot City|the infamous assault]] on [[Autobot City (G1)|Autobot City]] in 2005, where he was at the head of the first attack. Together with [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]], he battled [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Hot Rod]] and [[Kup (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Kup]] at [[Lookout Mountain]], a fight that did not go in his favour (Kup being surprisingly nimble for an old guy). Blitzwing is also shown participating in the general carnage at Autobot City a short time later, and is one of the several Decepticons who ran afoul of Optimus Prime. Unlike his less fortunate comrades, Blitzwing was able to avoid getting run over, and even managed to shoot back a little before Prime beat him, which is more than most Decepticons expect when facing Optimus Prime. In fact, Blitzwing made it through the entire battle more or less intact, which meant he got to ride all the way to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] without anyone trying to kick him out the back door when he wasn't looking. This is exactly what happened to Megatron, however, and Blitzwing's old desire for leadership blossomed back up as he joined in on the scuffle for leadership that followed. Ultimately Starscream was the winner, and Blitzwing attended his coronation as the new [[Decepticon leader]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}}

When the [[Quintesson]]s arrived on [[Chaar]] to bribe the [[Decepticon]] army with promises of [[energon]] and revenge, Blitzwing was the only one of his comrades to turn down their offers. He had met their kind before (or at least he thought they seemed familiar to him for [[Overcharge (G1)|''some'' reason]]) and did not trust them, though he could not remember why. Upon the triumphant return of [[Galvatron (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Galvatron]], Blitzwing was the only Decepticon left to greet him. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3}}

[[File:FFoD5 Blitzwings betrayal.jpg|200px|thumb|It's the look of absolute shock on Galvatron's face that sells this.]]
Later, during an assault on Cybertron, it was Blitzwing who discovered that the Quintessons were lying to Galvatron and plotting to destroy all Transformers (instead of just the Autobots, which Blitzwing had no problems with). He tried to report this to Galvatron, but when he could not convince the Decepticon leader, he turned to [[Hot Rod (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Rodimus Prime]] for help. Together, Blitzwing and Rodimus were able to stop the [[Sharkticon (G1)|Sharkticon]] commando team that had infiltrated Cybertron. Galvatron, unfortunately, suspected that Blitzwing was trying to betray the Decepticons and steal the "[[Decepticon Matrix|Decepticon Matrix of Leadership]]" for himself and threw the Quintessons' [[Large switch|nullifying switch]], deactivating Transformers galaxy-wide until [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|Spike Witwicky]] destroyed it. With the Quintessons' deception revealed, Galvatron attempted to renew hostilities with Rodimus, but Blitzwing drew his weapon and targeted Galvatron, stating that the battle was over for now. Seething, but seeing little alternative, Galvatron accepted and withdrew his forces from Cybertron, but banished Blitzwing from the Decepticon ranks forever. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}}

[[File:TVMagazineStarscreamsGhost1.jpg|thumb|200px]]
{{note|In the original script for ''[[Five Faces of Darkness]]'', after Blitzwing's banishment, Rodimus extended his offer to Blitzwing a second time, and in this instance, he did not accept, but did not ''refuse'', saying that he would think about it. The later episode, "[[Starscream's Ghost]]" was originally written to feature Blitzwing, but was later re-written to be about the newest Decepticon Triple Changer, [[Octane]], although there is no explanation offered for why Octane is friendly with the Autobots. It would seem that this would have originally been Blitzwing following up on Rodimus' offer. Blitzwing would reappear briefly in several crowd scenes, such as "[[Fight or Flee]]" and "[[The Ultimate Weapon]]", likely as the result of carelessness in production. Then again. Galvatron did forgive Scourge for [[Ghost in the Machine|his]] [[The Burden Hardest to Bear|antics]]. Plus, Galvatron is pretty insane.}}

====''Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers'' manga====
Blitzwing, Starscream and Megatron attacked the [[Japan]]ese city of [[Yokohama]], causing destruction using Megatron's "Super Megatron Gun" form. Warpath stood against them, but Blitzwing simply charged onwards, crushing the [[Mini Vehicle]] under his tracks. The Decepticons were eventually vanquished when [[Tracks (G1)|Tracks]] used his aerial manueverability to trick Blitzwing and Starscream to crash into their leader, followed by all three getting a "[[Optimus Prime (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Prime]]-[[Ultra Magnus (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Magnus]] Double Cross Kick" to their backs. {{storylink|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers issue 4|Fight! Super Robot Lifeform Transformers #4}}

====''The Headmasters'' cartoon====
:''Voice actor:'' [[Ken Yamaguchi]] (Japanese)
{{note|Even though ''[[Transformers: The Headmasters (cartoon)|The Headmasters]]'' was a sequel to the first three seasons of the original cartoon, Blitzwing was back in the ranks of the Decepticons, and with an almost regular presence, from the first to the last episode. This, however, would not be the most [[Prowl (G1)|inexplicable reappearance]] in the series.}}
[[File:FourWarriors SunstreakerBlitzwing.jpg|left|200px|thumb|If I blow up pretty boy here, then maybe Galvatron would forgive me. Or not...]]

In the year [[2011]], Blitzwing participated in an all-out Decepticon assault on [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], and was seen chasing [[Sunstreaker (G1)|Sunstreaker]] around the planet until he took cover and Blitzwing crashed into a wall. {{storylink|Four Warriors Come out of the Sky}} He later helped Astrotrain, Octane and the [[Combaticon (G1)|Combaticons]] fight the [[Aerialbot (G1)|Aerialbots]] on Earth, but the Autobot team was really just distracting them so that [[Blaster (G1)/Generation 1 cartoon continuity|Twincast]] could sneak into [[Trypticon (G1)|Trypticon]]. {{storylink|The Great Cassette Operation}} The three Triple Changers proceeded to help the Decepticon [[Headmaster (technology)|Headmasters]] steal the [[Sol 1]] satellite {{storylink|The Shadow Emperor, Scorponok}} and watch [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]] reveal his [[transtector]]. {{storylink|Explosion on Mars!! MegaZarak Appears}}

In a rare occasion of being separated from Astrotrain and Octane, Blitzwing was set with patrolling [[Chaar]]'s perimeter and guard it from intruders. [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] and [[Hardhead (G1)|Hardhead]] snuck past him easily, only for Blitzwing to return and reveal that it was a trap. He took Chromedome for a spin before throwing him to Scorponok, who punched both Autobots back into space. {{storylink|Return of the Immortal Emperor}} Blitzwing and Astrotrain were present in the climactic battle against the Autobots in the Arctic, and fled into space when it seemed like the Earth was going to be destroyed. {{storylink|The Final Showdown on Earth (Part 2)}}
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===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Generation 1====
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''Blitzwing was one of the [[Ten Deadliest Killers|most feared and deadly killers]] on Cybertron, and a specific target in [[Operation: Volcano]]. He'd have been killed in a [[Wrecker]]s ambush at the [[Imperial Amphitheatre]] if [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] hadn't abruptly called most of the gang to Earth.'' {{storylink|Target: 2006}}

[[File:Blitzwingg1mvl.jpg|thumb|Dern rickets!]]
Blitzwing, Astrotrain and Octane were commissioned by [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]] to investigate the loss of his [[Wash and Roll|priceless cargo]] that had arrived on [[Earth]] via a low-cost freighter, but hadn't checked in as scheduled. Upon making contact with the [[Freighter pilot|crashed ship's pilot]], Blitzwing and his companions were infected with [[Scraplet]]s, and began to slowly waste away. Lucky for them, the Autobot [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] was also infected, {{storylink|Crater Critters}} and his friends managed to re-discover the [[Water|strange and wondrous chemical]] that acted as a cure. In saving Blaster, the Triple Changers were incidentally saved as well. {{storylink|The Cure!}}

Blitzwing and the Triple Changers hooked up with Ratbat and Shockwave full-time after that, operating out of the Decepticons' tropical island starship. At that time, the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] had left Earth, allowing the other Decepticons to launch increasingly brazen raids; it was the happiest time in Blitzwing's life. {{storylink|Toy Soldiers!}} He was later part of a major offensive against the Autobots on the [[Moon (moon)|moon]], when the crews of the Ark and ''[[Steelhaven]]'' all gathered together as one big target. Blitzwing's fortunes changed, however, when he came sword-to-sword with [[Grimlock (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Grimlock]] — it seems the [[Energo weapon|energo-sword]] is mightier than the [[electron scimitar]]. Blitzwing was left in two pieces on the lunar landscape, and one can only assume his fellow Decepticons collected his pieces before fleeing. {{storylink|Totaled!}}

Still smarting from his last fight, Blitzwing eagerly rushed into battle with [[Scorponok (G1)|Scorponok]]'s Decepticons when conflict broke out between the two factions. Turnabout is fair play, as this time it was Blitzwing who cut an opponent in two, slicing through [[Horri-Bull]]'s midsection. {{storylink|Cold War!}} Blitzwing was later destroyed in [[Buenos Aires]] along with the other Triple Changers as they tried to fight an [[Underbase]]-empowered [[Starscream (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Starscream]]. {{storylink|Dark Star}}

=====Earthforce=====
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[[File:Triple changers shockwave secrets.jpg|left|200px|thumb|]]
Blitzwing was loyal to Shockwave during the split in the Decepticon faction, a precursor to his [[Dreamwave Generation One continuity|later career moves]]. At the [[Enclave]] between Megatron and Shockwave's troops, Blitzwing was seen talking to a Stunticon, and was later present during the huge melee initiated by the Autobots. {{storylink|The Bad Guy's Ball!}} Later, having received insider information from a traitor in Megatron's camp, he joined Shockwave and the other Triple Changers in stealing an energon shipment right out from under Megatron himself, tossing the other Decepticon leader off a cliff in the process. {{storylink|Secrets (G1)|Secrets}}

After the Decepticon factions reunited, they staged a major strike on the Autobot Earthbase. Blitzwing joined [[Dirge (G1)|Dirge]], [[Thrust (G1)|Thrust]] and Octane in an airstrike on the Autobot compound, but they were eventually driven off. {{storylink|Divide and Conquer!}} Later, he and Astrotrain received an SOS from their fellow Triple Changer, Octane, who had somehow driven himself into the middle of a military testing range. While fending off the live ammunition that threatened to set off their tanker truck comrade, Blitzwing demanded to know how this could have happened. Octane finally relented and told his fellow Decepticons that he had been "playing" again, attacking human vehicles for sport, when [[Jazz (G1)|one of them]] led him on a merry chase right into his current predicament. Infuriated by the idiot's antics, Blitzwing and Astrotrain left him to his fate in the combat zone. {{storylink|Manoeuvres!}}

=====Marvel UK future timelines=====
In [[2004]], Blitzwing joined Astrotrain and Shockwave in an assault on Autobot City, but they were driven away when the rash and illogical [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] confused Shockwave's plans. {{storylink|Aspects of Evil!}}

When [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]] and [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] forced the Decepticons into an ill-advised assault on [[Autobase]] in [[2008]], Blitzwing was right there on the front lines, charging headlong into battle with... [[Grapple]]?!? {{storylink|The Legacy of Unicron!}} Uh, somehow he survived that terrifying encounter, and was present at the second major Decepticon offensive of 2008, acting as one of [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]]'s sub-commanders to ready his "team" for combat. Things turned ugly, however, when the [[Quintesson]] [[Trident Attack Craft]]s ambushed the Decepticon on their way to Autobase. Amusingly enough, Blitzwing and his fellow Decepticons only survived because [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] and the Autobots came to their rescue against the Quintessons. {{storylink|Space Pirates!}}

====''Generation 2''====
Blitzwing was seen shouting Decepticon battle slogans like "Rip!" and "Tear!" just before the [[Cybertronian (faction)|Cybertronians]] ripped and tore him a new one. {{storylink|New Dawn}}

====''Regeneration One''====
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[[File:Battle sled loose ends 2.jpg|thumb|200px]]
By the year [[2012]], [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] had forged an army of [[zombie]]s from the lobotomised remains of Starscream's Decepticon victims, including Blitzwing. They were deployed in [[California]] to track down any survivors after Megatron shot down the [[Wrecker]]s' ship, where Blitzwing got to ride on the back of Megatron's [[battle sled]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 2}} He and the other zombified Cybertronians were offlined permanently once [[Spike Witwicky (G1)#Marvel_Comics_continuity|Circuit Smasher]] frizzle-fried the Ark's computer, [[Aunty|Auntie]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 5}} After Megatron's defeat, all of the deactivated zombies were piled into a large pit by the Autobots and obliterated from orbit. {{storylink|Natural Selection, Part 1}}
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===Milton Bradley mini-comic===
Blitzwing was among the Decepticons under [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s command who ambushed the [[Ark (G1)|ark]] and was knocked offline when it crashed into [[Earth]]. He and the others were repaired four million years later when a volcanic eruption caused the ark's systems to spring into life. {{storylink|In the Transformers}}

===Dreamwave ''Generation One'' comics===
[[File:1 blitzwing war within.jpg|left|thumb|This probably didn't happen.]]
Shortly after [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optronix]] was upgraded into [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], Blitzwing participated in [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s assault on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]] where he demonstrated triple-changing abilities. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} He was at Shockwave's side when the latter declared victory in Iacon with only a few Autobots left to mop up, {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}} though Blitzwing and the other Decepticons did not have long to savor it - they were forced to retreat when [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] accidentally-on-purpose destroyed the entire [[Polities of Cybertron|city-state]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 6|The War Within #6}}

[[File:2 blitzwing dark ages.jpg|thumb|This may have happened, but he probably didn't look like that.]]
After the disappearance of Optimus Prime and [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] in a [[space bridge]] explosion, Blitzwing remained with Shockwave's Decepticon forces, but was captured and imprisoned by the Autobots as an experiment too dangerous to be set free. Due to some unique property of his [[spark]], Blitzwing was abducted from [[Autobase]] by [[the Fallen]] as part of the [[Unbinding]], and presumably released back to the Decepticons after the temporary truce that resulted from the Fallen's defeat. {{storylink|Confrontation (issue)|Confrontation}}

[[File:3 blitzwing micromasters.jpg|left|thumb|This could have happened.]]
Following the departure of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]], Blitzwing served as Shockwave's lieutenant, overseeing the introduction of [[Micromaster]]s into the Decepticon ranks. Shortly before the return of [[Skystalker (G1)|Skystalker]] and [[Skyhopper]], Blitzwing appeared to be undergoing some sort of mutation which Shockwave did not fully understand, but which was also affecting [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]]. Shockwave wanted to analyze and concentrate this mutation but his plans were cut short by the arrival of the two Micromasters - Blitzwing was knocked offline by Skyhopper, while Skystalker turned Shockwave into a glove puppet. {{storylink|Recipe for Hate}}

[[File:4 blitzwing prime directive.jpg|thumb|This almost certainly didn't.]]
At some point Blitzwing was reactivated and made his way to [[Earth]], where he was seen among the Decepticons captured and deactivated during [[Operation Liberation]]. {{storylink|Prime Directive issue 5|Prime Directive #5}}

[[File:5 blitzwing new world order.jpg|left|thumb|Did this happen?]]
Somehow he avoided becoming one of the Transformers recovered and controlled by [[Lazarus]], returning instead to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] where he fell once more under Shockwave's command. During this time, Shockwave had unified the Autobots and Decepticons, and Blitzwing now served alongside his former enemies as part of a combined force. Alongside his fellow [[Triple Changer]]s, Blitzwing accompanied Shockwave to Earth to capture the renegade forces of Optimus Prime and Megatron and even managed to cause Megatron some damage before he was badly bent out of shape by [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]] in the battle that ensued.

While Shockwave returned to Cybertron with the captive ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'' crew, Blitzwing remained behind on Earth to assist [[Security Team Dion]] in apprehending the Autobots. {{storylink|New World Order}} Despite his mutual antagonism with the [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|team's commander]], they managed to capture Prime's crew without incident, except when Blitzwing's goading of Optimus Prime caused him to smack the Triple Changer down. Blitzwing returned to Cybertron along with the prisoners aboard [[Sky Lynx (G1)|Sky Lynx]]. {{storylink|Brothers' Burden}}

When the [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]] attacked Shockwave's citadel Blitzwing crossed swords once more with Grimlock and though it was Ultra Magnus who took the Dinobot commander down, it was Blitzwing who made sure he ''stayed'' down. {{storylink|Passive Aggression}} Later, during Optimus Prime's uprising of the Autobot resistance, Shockwave ordered Blitzwing to rally the troops and activate the defences. {{storylink|Countdown to Extinction (issue)|Countdown to Extinction}} Blitzwing subsequently joined Astrotrain on the front lines, and was about to take out that Autobrat [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] when he was pummelled into the ground by a rejuvenated Grimlock and thrown at an approaching [[Guardian robot|Omega Sentinel]]. {{storylink|Revelation (War and Peace)|Revelation}}

[[File:6 blitzwing route of all evil.jpg|thumb|Eh, doesn't matter anymore.]]
Shockwave, Blitzwing, Astrotrain and the [[Conehead]]s went to ground in the Cybertronian wastelands, operating out of a hidden base. When their perimeter alarm was tripped by a reanimated [[Air Warrior]], Shockwave ordered Blitzwing and Astrotrain to investigate. The mindless drone was merely a distraction for a [[Predacon (G1)|Predacon]] attack and though Astrotrain surrendered and agreed to serve Megatron, Blitzwing's loyalty to Shockwave proved too great - he resisted and the Predacons tore him to pieces. {{storylink|Lost and Found (issue)|Lost and Found}}

His remains were then examined by an unknown Transformer. {{storylink|The Route of All Evil}}

{{note|Blitzwing's history in Dreamwave's comics was rather convoluted and contradictory. His appearance among the captured Decepticons on Earth in ''[[Prime Directive]]'' is at odds with his later appearances on Cybertron in ''[[War and Peace]]'' and ''[[Transformers: Micromasters|Micromasters]]''. Furthermore, his earliest chronological appearance in ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]'' depicts him as a Triple Changer, while in ''[[Transformers: War Within: The Dark Ages|The Dark Ages]]'' he's an experiment that Shockwave had invested an "awful lot of time and resources in". ''[[Transformers: More than Meets the Eye|More than Meets the Eye]]'' also states that Blitzwing's triple-changing was the result of one of Shockwave's experiments (though problematically it claims [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] was perfected first) while in ''Micromasters'' Blitzwing appears to be naturally evolving into a Triple Changer. The answers to these conundrums, and the identity of the being who examined his fallen form (though it was likely [[Sixshot]]) will remain forever unanswered, due to the bankruptcy and collapse of Dreamwave.}}
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===''G.I. Joe vs. Transformers''===
[[File:GIJoevsTFII 1 Blitzwing.jpg|thumb|left|200px|]]
When [[Teletran 3]] sent a random selection of Transformers careening through the timeline, Blitzwing was one of the unfortunate victims. He was locked into the form of a private commuter jet in mid-70's [[San Francisco]] until a number of Autobots and [[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joes]] located him and slapped a [[disruption unit]] on him. Having no idea what the [[Slag (slang)|slag]] was going on, Blitzwing's first reaction was to attack the Autobots, only to be transported back to present-day Cybertron. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 1|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #1}} Upon arrival, he was overpowered and tied up by the Autobots. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 2|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #2}} He was presumably saved when the Autobots were defeated and captured by [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]. {{storylink|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II issue 4|G.I. Joe vs. the Transformers II #4}}

After [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]] took control of the Decepticon army, Blitzwing joined Astrotrain, [[Sixshot]] and [[Buzzsaw (G1)|Buzzsaw]] in an attack on an Autobot peace ceremony. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 3|The Art of War #3}}
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===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
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Blitwing was once a member of the [[Triorian Guard]], the [[Senate]]'s elite unit of Triple Changers. They were once charged with guarding the [[Primal Basilica]] and killing anyone suspicious. {{storylink|Shadowplay (Conclusion): An Intimate Beheading|An Intimate Beheading}}

When [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] wanted to have a peaceful chat with [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Orion Pax]] in the early days of the Decepticon revolt, Blitzwing and [[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] held [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] hostage to make sure Orion didn't get any funny ideas. {{storylink|The Hunt for Soundwave}} This went well until Autobot reinforcements arrived, at which point Orion blasted Blitzwing's arm straight off. {{storylink|Cause and Effect}} Megatron and Orion Pax later formed an alliance to overthrow [[Zeta Prime (G1)|Zeta Prime]], and Blitzwing participated in their combined attack on Prime's [[Citadel]]. {{storylink|Overthrown}}

[[File:Autocracy12-BrawlOnslaughtSkullgrinBlitzwing.jpg|left|thumb|300px|]]
With Zeta Prime dead, Megatron took control of Cybertron and had his Decepticons hunt down and arrest any Autobots who tried to resist. Blitzwing was part of a team who captured Bumblebee, [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Ironhide (G1)|Ironhide]] and [[Hot Rod (G1)|Hot Rod]] in [[Ultrix]]. {{storylink|Transformation (issue)|Transformation}} Put in charge of an armored division, Blitzwing and his subordinates were ordered by Megatron to contain the Autobot forces until he unleashed his little "surprise": the [[vamparc ribbon|vamparc annihilator]]. The plan failed and Blitzwing presumably retreated with the rest of the Decepticons after the battle. {{storylink|Endgame}}

Later but still during the early days of the war, Blitzwing served under [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] as part of a team sent to find the lost [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Titan]], [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. On the two-hundred-and-thirty-eighth day of this grueling campaign, Blitzwing and his colleagues destroyed a [[Nibarian]] outpost because they believed it was between them and their quarry. A hunch from [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] led them further to a planet inhabited by [[Urtuskian]]s. As Blitzwing and the other Decepticons started obliterating the primitive outpost, believing Metroplex was underneath (and also because it was fun), their team was caught up to by a team of [[Autobot]]s who had been trailing them. Blitzwing and the other the Decepticons retreated without accomplishing their goal and with Blitzwing less than happy with Thundercracker's performance as a [[Seeker (body-type) |Seeker]]. {{storylink|The Hunting Party (IDW)|The Hunting Party}}
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Millions of years later, Blitzwing was part of a Decepticon infiltration unit that had operated covertly on Earth for at least four years, working to destabilize Earth's governing organizations and create global anarchy. He was assigned along with [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] to destroy all traces of the [[Nebraska]] operation, including Megatron. Thus he was guarding the abandoned bunker when Bumblebee, [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], and their human companions came to investigate it. Ratchet attempted to down him, but Blitzwing fired a direct shot from his tank-mode and then ran the doc right over. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 4|Infiltration #4}} Unfortunately, he and Skywarp were interrupted in their bombing when Megatron, both obviously unhurt and seriously pissed, erupted from the rubble. Blitzwing, giving up on apologies, tried to actually fight "the Big Meg". This didn't end well. {{storylink|Infiltration issue 5|Infiltration #5}}

Apparently, Megatron forgave Blitzwing for the attempted coup (after nearly destroying him in Nebraska), as he was seen working alongside the Decepticon leader in their Russian operation a few weeks later, his tank form playing a key role in the plot. He showed the power to cloak himself and had a chance to take out Optimus, {{storylink|Escalation issue 3|Escalation #3}} but was blasted to bits by Optimus Prime's [[Roller (G1)|Roller]] drone. {{storylink|Escalation issue 4|Escalation #4}}

He and the other Decepticons crapped themselves when [[Sixshot]] was called in and realized Megatron was losing it, but didn't dare tell him that — and so went with Astrotrain's plan to bring back Starscream to do it for them. {{storylink|Devastation issue 1|Devastation #1}} When the [[Reaper]]s attacked, Blitzwing gave Megatron a very lame report on what was going on and tried to cover for an absent Astrotrain, {{storylink|Devastation issue 5|Devastation #5}} before joining the fight against the aliens. With Megatron now knowing they'd plotted behind his back, Blitzwing still optimistically tried to say "well, it all worked out, eh guys?" and might have been killed by Megatron if Starscream hadn't pointed out that Earth was now aware of them. {{storylink|Devastation issue 6|Devastation #6}}

When the Decepticons defeated the Autobots on Earth and planned to feed them to [[Insecticon swarm|the Swarm]] on Cybertron, Optimus Prime punched Blitzwing and stole his gun, which allowed him to seal the Space Bridge before the other Decepticons could follow. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 7|All Hail Megatron #7}}

One year later, Blitzwing participated in the massive Decepticon attack on [[New York City]], joining the other flying Decepticons in repelling an attack by human fighter jets. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 1|All Hail Megatron #1}} They then blew up the [[Brooklyn Bridge]] to prevent any humans from escaping. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 2|All Hail Megatron #2}} Blitzwing later approached Megatron in [[Israel]], worried about his leader going off on his own without any [[Mini-Cassette]]s to disrupt human missiles. Megatron replied that he needed some time alone, and that human weaponry was of no concern to him. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 6|All Hail Megatron #6}} As the Decepticons returned to New York, Blitzwing witnessed Starscream incite a minor rebellion against Megatron. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 10|All Hail Megatron #10}} He then fought back against European jets and the Autobots who had returned from Cybertron onboard [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]]. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 11|All Hail Megatron #11}} The Decepticon forces were defeated, {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 12|All Hail Megatron #12}} and Blitzwing and the others fled into space on Astrotrain. {{storylink|All Hail Megatron issue 13#Uneasy Lies the Head|Uneasy Lies the Head}}

It took three years, but once Megatron was repaired from the injuries he had sustained in New York, the Decepticons returned to Earth and attacked a [[Skywatch]] base in order to free their captured comrades. Blitzwing participated in the attack, and hauled [[Scrapper (G1)|Scrapper]]'s body out of the wrecked base. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 1: The Demolished Man}} He was later among the Decepticons who were eager to watch another duel between Optimus Prime and Megatron, only to be caught in the blast when Prime dropped an entire satellite on his long-time enemy. {{storylink|Revenge of the Decepticons Part 5: Enemy Mine}}

Megatron would later use [[space bridge]] technology built into in his new body to summon Blitzwing and the rest of the Decepticons to him on Cybertron. At first they did battle with the Autobots, but were soon mind-controlled by [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] into combining with his [[Sweep]] army and forming a [[Deceptigod|huge monster]]. {{storylink|Chaos Part Three: Kings}} After the beast was defeated, the weakened Decepticons were rounded up and imprisoned by the Autobots. They were briefly released to help the Autobots beat down a [[NAIL]] riot, though with [[Inhibitor/deterrence chip|I/D chips]] planted in their heads to keep them from being too brutal. Blitzwing was still pretty brutal. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Death of Optimus Prime|The Death of Optimus Prime}}

Blitzwing and Astrotrain supported [[Shockwave (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Shockwave]]'s attempts to restart the war with the Autobots, but their plan was nipped in the bud when Starscream and [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] had [[Arcee (G1)|Arcee]] defeat the rebellious Decepticons and kidnap their leaders. {{storylink|The End of the Beginning of the World}}

{{note|The events of ''Spotlight: Mirage'' possibly take place in an alternate/unknown continuity.}}
Blitzwing accompanied Starscream's small strike team to the [[Pegasus Star Cluster]], hunting down the last pockets of Autobot resistance. Blitzwing and Astrotrain both attacked Optimus Prime after the mercenary [[Mirage (G1)|Mirage]] destroyed the Autobot bunker's security system, allowing the Decepticons in, but was swiftly defeated by [[Hound (G1)|Hound]]. He held Optimus Prime back when Mirage prepared to carry out Megatron's order to kill the Autobot prisoners. {{storylink|Spotlight: Mirage}}

===''Hearts of Steel''===
With his fellow Decepticons, Blitzwing fell under the thrall of an [[Elder God]] in [[1888]]. As part of the Elder God's forces, Blitzwing, with the other Decepticons, defended [[Port Cenotaph]] from intruders. {{Storylink|Infestation 2: The Transformers issue 1|Infestation 2: The Transformers #1}} He soon defended the town against an international fleet, but was shot down. {{Storylink|Infestation 2: The Transformers issue 2|Infestation 2: The Transformers #2}}

==Games==
===''Transformers: Mystery of Convoy''===
Blitzwing was one of the many [[Decepticon]]s who menaced [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] on his journey. {{storylink|Transformers: Mystery of Convoy}}

===''The Transformers'' (PS2)===
[[File:TF PS2 Blitzwing.jpg|thumb|250px|]]
{{bigquote|It's triplechanging Blitzwing! With the ability to transform into a tank or a fighter jet, Blitzwing brings a special brand of Decepticon to every battle he joins!|The [[narrator]]|"[[The Transformers (PS2)]]"}}
:''Voice actor'': [[Alex Easley]]

In the Autobot story, Blitzwing appears to have been placed in charge of the Jaad wind power plant. When Optiumus Prime's squad team made it to the main station of the power plant, Blitzwing approached them in his tank form, expressing mock surprise that the Autobots managed to make it. He transformed to robot form, commenting how worthless his troops were, letting the Autobots reach the main station so easily. Blitzwing then announced that it didn't matter, because he was going to burn up the Autobots. However, Blitzwing failed to live up to his threat and was defeated by the Autobot squad team. Expressing disbelief that he was defeated, he decided to high-tail it out of there, transforming to jet mode and flying away. The Autobots faced Blitzwing once again inside the [[Monogan hydroelectric power station]] and yet again at the [[Karzite mine]]. They managed to defeat the triple changer along with his troops on both occasions.

During the Decepticon storyline, Blitzwing was a member of a team that Megatron sent to investigate a mysterious UFO that was spotted in the area of Zel Samine. Something caused the team to lose contact with the main Decepticon forces, and they found out that they could not leave the planet, as Zel's sun, Paradius, emitted electromagnetic rays that was harmful to them. Unable to contact Megatron and with no way to leave the planet safely, Blitzwing and the others scattered across Zel.

The Decepticon forces went to Zel in order to investigate, and Blitzwing found them just when they were leaving the geothermal power plant. Expressing relief on how the Decepticons finally arrived, Blitzwing drove up to them in tank mode and transformed to robot mode. He complained about how late the Decepticons were and voiced his thoughts on how they were going to leave him behind to clean up all the pieces of the Autobots the Decepticons had defeated. Megatron briefly thought that he would have to bolt Blitzwing's mouth shut, but ultimately decided that he could use the triple changer and let him join his forces. What was Blitzwing's response? "Yes sir, Lord Megatron!" {{storylink|The Transformers (PS2)|The Transformers}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[File:Blitzwingg1toy.jpg|300px|thumb|Transforms from back-to-front tank to unflyable plane to feetless robot and back!]]
*'''Blitzwing''' (Triple Changer, 1985/2005)
**''Japanese ID number'': '''43''', '''TFC-17'''
**''Accessories'': "Gyro-Blaster Rifle", "Electron Scimitar", 3 "Concussion Missiles"

: Originally a ''[[Diaclone]]'' toy (the only ''Transformers'' [[Triple Changer]] who had a previous ''Diaclone'' release), Blitzwing can transform from robot mode to two different vehicle modes; a Soviet MiG-25 fighter jet or a Japanese Type-74 assault tank. Like most early G1 toys, he has little or no articulation in robot mode, with only his arms being able to move up and down a little. He does, however, have a swiveling turret and deployable front landing gear in his vehicle modes. Originally released in 1985, he was re-issued two decades later in [[TakaraTomy|Takara]]'s "bookbox" [[The Transformers Collection]] series; despite being included in the instruction manual, the rub face decal was nowhere to be found on this version.
: All US versions had the spring-loaded missile launchers severely weakened. The Japanese releases, however, kept the full-strength launching mechanisms. The tank turret on the original Blitzwing toy can be taken off, while later releases feature a turret that cannot be removed.

: This mold was returned to its ''Diaclone'' coloration and re-released in 2005 as [[Overcharge (G1)|Overcharge]], an [[e-HOBBY]] exclusive.
::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Decepticon/Blitzwing/blitzwing.htm More information on Blitzwing at TFU.info]''
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===Generations===
[[File:Generationstoy-Voyager Blitzwing.jpg|thumb|300px|Ich bin wieder da! Und wo ist die verfluchte [[Warpath (G1)|bolschewistischen?!]]]]
*'''Blitzwing''' (Triple Changer Voyager, 2013)
**''Japanese ID number'':'''TG22'''
**''Accessories'': "Gyro-Blaster Rifle", "Electron Scimitar"

:Part of the '[[Thrilling 30]]' anniversary campaign, ''[[Transformers: Generations|Generations]]'' Blitzwing is a modern reinterpretation of his original toy, and transforms into vaguely futuristic jet and tank modes. In a nod to his ''[[Transformers Animated (franchise)|Transformers Animated]]'' [[Blitzwing (Animated)|incarnation]], he sports a face-swapping feature, allowing him to switch between (at least) a monocled face inspired by the ''Animated'' character's 'Icy' persona, and a more traditional, visored face.

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==Merchandise==
===Decoy===
*'''Blitzwing''' (1986)

:[[Decoy]] Blitzwing is a small, purple, soft-rubber figure that came randomly packed with smaller carded toys.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1986/Decepticon/Decoys/Blitzwing/blitzwing.htm More information on Decoy Blitzwing at TFU.info]''

===Robot Heroes===
[[File:Robotheroeshoundblitzwing.jpg|200px|thumb|[[Blitzwing (Animated)|German accent]] not included.]]
*'''Autobot Hound''' vs '''Blitzwing''' (2008)

:A [[super deformed]] Blitzwing sculpted holding his electron scimitar. He has articulation in his neck and shoulders and came in a two-pack with [[Hound (G1)|Hound]].
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==Notes==
[[File:LaserdiscBookletDiacloneBlitzwingProtoFace.jpg|250px|thumb|No feet, no face, no service.]]
[[File:StudioOxCybertronBattleCons.jpg|250px|thumb|The War Without?]]
*The earliest ''[[Diaclone]]'' catalog artwork to show the "Jet Fighter Type" Triplechanger depicted it with a less humanoid-looking face; this art took its cues from an unused, pre-production design for the toy's head. Images of both were featured in the booklet included with Japan's "Megatron Laserdisc" set in 1995.
*Blitzwing's [[Tech Spec]] [[Bio]] has a probable typographical error on it which gives him the function of "Ground and Air Commander" at a rank of ''six''. The actual function, which appears in other merchandise (such as the [[Action Cards]]) is "Ground and Air Commando".
*In the episode "[[Cosmic Rust (episode)|Cosmic Rust]]" several of the Stunticons fit inside of Blitzwing in his jet mode in a similar way to how Decepticons usually go inside of Astrotrain in his shuttle mode. It would seem as though Blitzwing can mass shift to make his flying alternate mode large enough to fit other Decepticons the way that fellow Triple Changer Astrotrain often does.
*A [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertronian]] battle scene from ''[[TV Magazine]]'' (reprinted in [[Transformers Generations]]) appears to depict (one of?) Blitzwing's original alt mode(s) as a double-barreled tank - a good decade and a half before he received a Cybertronian makeover in ''[[Transformers: The War Within|The War Within]]''.
*The opening sequence of Season 3 features a large row of identical tanks that look suspiciously identical to Blitzwing's tank mode, before zooming in on the barrel of one particular tank. The reason for this is unknown.

===Foreign names===
*''Japanese:'' '''Blitzwing''' (ブリッツウイング ''Burittsuuingu'')
*''French:'' '''Le Blitz''' (Canada, "The Blitz")
*''Hungarian:'' '''Villámszárny''' ("Lightning Wing")
*''Italian:'' '''Triplex Due''' ("Triplex Two")
*''Mandarin:'' '''Shǎn-tìen Yì''' (Taiwan, 閃電翼, "Blitz Wing"), '''Shǎndìan''' (China, 閃電, "Blitz")
*''Russian:'' '''Razryad''' (Разряд, "Discharge")

==External links==
*[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Decepticon/Blitzwing/blitzwing.htm Blitzwing at TFU.info]
*[http://www.ntfa.net/universe/english/index.php?act=view&char=Blitzwing Blitzwing's Universe profile at NTFA.net]

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Chop Shop (G1)

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Phantom: And done

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:''Chop Shop is a [[Decepticon]] [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:ChopShop MTMTE.jpg|right|300px|thumb|There's a good chance he stole his body parts.]]
Are you missing a few [[energon]] chips? Wasn't there a photon rectifier on that table a minute ago? Hey, has anyone seen my [[Action Master partner]] recently? And where the heck did our new [[transwarp]] cruiser go?!

If it's not nailed, screwed, bolted, and nano-fused to the ground, chances are good '''Chop Shop''' stole it while you were reading this. The other Decepticons and his fellow [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]] are well aware of Chop Shop's skill as a master thief, but they have no idea just how deep the compulsion goes. Chop Shop is a closet [[Wikipedia:Kleptomania|kleptomaniac]], compelled to steal—not just from the Autobots, but also from his allies and even from ''himself''! The more difficult it is to steal something, the more Chop Shop feels compelled to rise to the challenge. No piece of equipment or valuable item in Decepticon headquarters is safe when he's around. So far, he's been quick-witted enough to cover his own tracks, but how long his luck holds out, and what his comrades will do when they realize just who's been robbing them blind, is anyone's guess.

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel UK Generation 1 comics====
[[Image:Uk202timewarsMayhems.JPG|right|200px|thumb|There's a very good chance he stole his spot on the [[Mayhem Attack Squad]].]]
Chop Shop was part of the Decepticons' elite [[Mayhem Attack Squad]]. The Mayhems were sent from [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] to help the [[Wrecker]]s defeat [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] and [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. However, the sheer power possessed by their targets overwhelmed not only the Mayhems and Wreckers, but a number of other Transformers pulled into the fight as well. Chop Shop was destroyed during this battle. {{storylink|Time Wars}}
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====''Regeneration One''====
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[[Image:Soundwave Insecticons.jpeg|left|100px|thumb]]
[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] ordered Chop Shop, Venom and Ransack to ensure that the [[Skyscorcher]]s, under siege in a [[Kalis]] weapons depot, would be "martyrs" to the Neo-Decepticon cause. The Insecticons infiltrated the depot and eliminated their targets, with Chop Shop taking out [[Windrazor (G2)|Windrazor]] and [[Afterburner (G2)|Afterburner]]. However, they were then surprised in turn by the appearance of the [[Wrecker]]s, who blew in and captured them inside a [[detention sphere]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 1}}
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===Dreamwave ''Generation 1'' comics===
[[Image:Ratbatwarwithin.jpg|left|180px|thumb|Chop Shop really wants to steal the spotlight from Ratbat right now. (Chop Shop is the one on the left.)]]
8.2 million years ago, Chop Shop participated in [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s assault on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} {{storylink|The War Within issue 4|The War Within #4}} He presumably retreated with the rest of the Decepticons when [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] activated the planetary engines, devastating the city. {{storylink|The War Within issue 5|The War Within #5}}

7.4 million years ago, Chop Shop joined [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]'s [[Ultracon|Ultracons]] after the disappearance of Megatron splintered the Decepticons. Along with Ratbat, [[Venom (G1)|Venom]], and [[Ransack (G1)|Ransack]], Chop Shop ambushed and captured [[Springer (G1)|Springer]] in the [[Tagan Heights]]. {{storylink|Escalation}} He suggested that Ratbat kill Springer's [[Wrecker]]s before killing him, to increase his suffering, but Ratbat opted for the more expedient option. The fuel auditor was prevented from carrying that out, however, when a battle between [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] and [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] raged out of control, allowing Springer to escape. {{storylink|Devastation}}

Some time later, Chop Shop was involved in a battle against the now-unified [[Autobot]] forces, commanded by [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]]. When the Ultracons were reabsorbed into the Decepticons 6 million years ago, Chop Shop presumably went with them. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}}

Later, after the launch of the ''[[Ark (G1)|Ark]]'' and the ''[[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]'', Chop Shop and a number of his fellow Insecticons were reduced to a vampiric existence, capturing [[Micromaster]]s in the [[Wastelands]] and drinking their [[energon]]. He and his comrades attacked and devoured [[Falcon (OC)|Falcon]], but were prevented from capturing the [[Hot Rod Patrol]] and the [[Race Track Patrol]] by the arrivals of [[Groundshaker]] and Shockwave, respectively — although the latter did toss them [[Flanker]] to snack on. {{storylink|The Gray Race}}

As ordered by Shockwave, Chop Shop and his mates attacked [[Little Iacon]], searching for the Hot Rod Patrol—Chop Shop accidentally snagged [[Road Hugger (G1)|Road Hugger]], but was ordered by Venom to throw him back. They eventually landed in the city and recruited the Race Track Patrol to aid them in their search. In the course of the search, Chop Shop stole [[Barrage (Insecticon)|Barrage]]'s sonic rifle. {{storylink|Recipe for Hate}} Taking their charges (and a number of captive Micromasters) back to Decepticon HQ, Chop Shop was deactivated when the Hot Rod Patrol infiltrated the base and opened fire on him. {{storylink|Victims of the Revolution}}
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===''The Battle of the Star Gate''===
When [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] confronted the two [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]s on the [[Trigger]], Chop Shop was part of his forces. When the [[Autobot]]s arrived, the [[Decepticon]]s battled them, till the Starscream of the future interrupted the battle by merging with the Trigger. In the ensuing conflict, the Trigger was destroyed and the Transformers were sent falling to the [[Earth]], becoming lost. {{storylink|The Battle of the Star Gate}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
During the early days of the war, Chop Shop served under [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] as part of a team sent to find the lost [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Titan]], [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. On the two-hundred-and-thirty-eighth day of this grueling campaign, Chop Shop and his colleagues destroyed a [[Nibarian]] outpost because they believed it was between them and their quarry. A hunch from [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] led them further to a planet inhabited by [[Urtuskian]]s. As Chop Shop and the other Decepticons started obliterating the primitive outpost, believing Metroplex was underneath (and also because it was fun), their team was caught up to by a team of [[Autobot]]s who had been trailing them. Chop Shop and the other the Decepticons retreated without accomplishing their goal. {{storylink|The Hunting Party (IDW)|The Hunting Party}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1 Chopshop toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|There's a good chance he'll steal this toy from you.]]
*'''Chop Shop''' (Deluxe Insecticon, 1985)
**''Accessories:'' Gun, trident

:Chop Shop is a [[redeco]] of [[#Notes|''Armored Insect Battalion Beetras'' Beet-Gugal]] and transforms into a predominately brown robotic [[Popular beast alternate modes#Stag beetles (family Lucanidae)|stag beetle]]. His robot mode carries many of the insect bits over, with the beetle horns rising from each shoulder and insect legs upon both arms. Rather impressively, Chop Shop has a rarity among G1 toys: all six insect legs use ball joints in one way or another.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Decepticon/ChopShop/chopshop.htm More information on Chop Shop at TFU.info]''

{{--}}

==Notes==
[[Image:1985MuralDXInsecticons.jpg|thumb|250px]]
* Chop Shop, like all of the Deluxe Insecticons, was designed and originally produced by [[Takatoku Toys]] for inclusion in their ''Armored Insect Battalion Beetras'' toyline (機甲虫隊ビートラス). Decoed in black and grey, the mold first saw release under the name Beet-Gugal. Takatoku Toys went out of business a short while later in 1984, and their assets were purchased by fellow Japanese toymaker [[Bandai]]. At that time, the American market was one Bandai was not very active in, which made it a competitor of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], but not of [[Hasbro]]. Due to this, the company had no objection to licensing various Takatoku molds to Hasbro in 1985 for sale in the American market primarily as part of their version of the [[The Transformers (toyline)|''The Transformers'' toyline]]. Nowadays, Bandai has a worthwhile interest in every market and since it only once licensed the molds, there is little likelihood that Chop Shop and company will ever be put up for reissue.
* Since Hasbro and Takara shared the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] as promotional material for their respective versions of the toyline, Chop Shop and the other Deluxe Insecticons were not included in its cast to avoid giving Japanese market-competitor Bandai free publicity. The group was also omitted from the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|US Marvel comics]] and barely appeared in the UK Marvel comics, making them the least "successful" of the Takatoku molds. This trend has continued in fiction since, the team's current highlight being their role in the ''[[Transformers: Micromasters|Micromasters]]'' comics.
* Barrage, Chop Shop and Venom all appeared in their ''Beetras'' color schemes on Hasbro's 1985 packaging mural, along with several other toys in early or unused color schemes.
* Ironically, Chop Shop was robbed of having a ''[[The Transformers Universe|Transformers Universe]]'' bio! One was written though and finally revealed to the fans on the [http://boltax.blogspot.com/2010/12/extended-bios.html ''Disciples of Boltax'' blog] in 2010.

===Foreign names===
*''French:'' '''Trancheur''' (Canada, "Slicer")

==External links==
*[http://www.diaclone.net/gattaioh/beet/gugal/index.html Beet-Gugal at Diaclone.net] (Japanese)

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[[Category:Thieves]]
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Venom (G1)

2013-03-25T01:30:09Z

Phantom: 2 down, 1 to go

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{{disambig3|Venom}}
:''Venom is a [[Decepticon]] [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:G1Venom boxart.jpg|right|300px|thumb|It may seem like he's just shaking his fist, but in reality his forehead is giving you the finger.]]
'''Venom''' is the official leader of the [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticons]], but he's so paranoid about one of the others trying to usurp his position that he does more damage to his own standing among them than most of the plots they might hatch against him. He trusts none of them and suspects everyone of being after his place. He won't hesitate to utilize his manipulative and destructive psychological warfare techniques on those under him to stay in power: his self-esteem is based solely around his job!

The stinger on his head is loaded with all sorts of chemicals that can mess up organic and mechanical life... as long as it doesn't get stuck in an enemy and break off.<ref>[http://boltax.blogspot.com/2010/12/extended-bios.html Extended bio at ''Disciplies of Boltax'']</ref>

==Fiction==
===Marvel Comics continuity===
====Marvel UK continuity====
Venom and his teammates in the elite [[Mayhem Attack Squad]] were sent to aid the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]] against the team-up of [[Megatron (G1)/Marvel Comics continuity|Megatron]] and [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]]. Despite the Mayhems' reputation, however, they were no match for their opponents, and Venom was slain by Galvatron shortly after the battle began. Twice. {{storylink|Time Wars}}

====''Regeneration One''====
{{noterg1}}
[[Image:Soundwave Insecticons.jpeg|left|100px|thumb]]
Venom and two of his boys were ordered by [[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] to ensure the [[Skyscorcher]]s, under siege in a [[Kalis]] weapons depot, would be "martyrs". The Insecticons sneaked in and killed their targets, with Venom taking out [[Eagle Eye (G2)|Eagle Eye]] and [[Terradive (G2)|Terradive]] with a sinister ''WRUP'', and set up a bomb to detonate. However, the [[Wrecker]]s blew in and captured them inside a [[detention sphere]]. {{storylink|Loose Ends, Part 1}}
{{-}}

===Kid Stuff storybooks===
[[Image:SlavesoftheInsecticons_Venom.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Hey, [[Ravage (SG)|Ravage]]! See you.]]
Venom and his Insecticon forces were in charge of an oil-mining operation on the Pacific Rim island of [[Buru]]. Having enslaved the natives with their special venom, they patrolled the island to make sure that no Autobots interfered with the operation. Venom refused Megatron's orders to pump faster, saying it was impossible. When Megatron arrived on his [[oil driller and transporter]] to speed up the drilling operations, Venom boarded the vessel to meet with the Decepticon leader. He freaked out Megatron by just staring at him in total silence, leaving Megatron and Soundwave to whisper and speculate what he might be thinking.

{{note|Venom's lack of dialogue results from Kid Stuff's apparent desire to not have any speaking parts in their audiobooks besides the core cast of Optimus Prime, Megatron, Soundwave and Prowl.}}

Venom's forces were subsequently crushed underfoot by a horde of [[Dinobot (G1)|Dinobots]]. {{storylink|Slaves of the Insecticons}}
{{-}}

===Dreamwave ''Generation 1'' comics===
[[Image:Ratbatwarwithin.jpg|left|200px|thumb|"The Frightful Four?? I wanted to be in the Sinister Six!"]]
8.2 million years ago, Venom participated in [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]]'s assault on [[Iacon (polity)|Iacon]]. {{storylink|The War Within issue 3|The War Within #3}} He presumably retreated with the rest of the Decepticons when [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] activated the planetary engines, devastating the city.

After the fragmentation of the Decepticon forces following Megatron's seeming destruction in a [[space bridge]] accident, Venom joined [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]'s [[Ultracon|Ultracons]]. He accompanied Ratbat and fellow Ultracons [[Chop Shop]] and [[Ransack (G1)|Ransack]] on a mission to the [[Tagan Heights]], where they unleashed the deadly [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] on the [[Wrecker|Wreckers]]. Capturing the Wreckers' leader, [[Springer (G1)|Springer]], the Ultracons were prevented from executing him when Devastator's battle with [[Defensor (G1)|Defensor]] raged out of control. {{storylink|Escalation}} In the chaos that ensued, Venom and his allies escaped, leaving Devastator behind. {{storylink|Devastation}}

Later, Venom, Chop Shop, and [[Barrage (Insecticon)|Barrage]] were involved in an altercation with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]. Venom also accompanied his leader to the [[Autobot]]/Decepticon peace ceremony at [[Tyger Pax]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}}

Venom, along with Barrage, Chop Shop, and Ransack, remained on Cybertron following the departure of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and the [[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]. The planet's chronic [[energon]] shortage reduced them to a vampiric existence, forcing them to capture [[Micromaster]]s and drain them of their fuel. While pursuing [[Falcon (OC)|Falcon]] and [[Flanker]] in the [[Wastelands]], they ran into the middle of a conflict between the [[Hot Rod Patrol]] and [[Race Track Patrol]]. {{storylink|Destined for Nothing}}

[[Image:VictimsoftheRevolution_Venom_impaled.jpg|right|150px|thumb|[[Blaze Master|Lethal Defector.]]]]
After devouring Falcon, they soon set upon the other Micromasters, but were driven back by the timely arrival of [[Groundshaker]], who left with the Hot Rod Patrol. The subsequent arrival of Shockwave prevented them from devouring the Race Track Patrol, but Shockwave did surreptitiously toss them Flanker as a snack once the others had left. {{storylink|The Gray Race}} The Insecticons subsequently abducted the Race Track Patrol and several other Micromasters from [[Little Iacon]] in an attempt to ferret out the Hot Rod Patrol and gain some new recruits in the process. Venom berated Chop Shop after the latter accidentally snatched [[Road Hugger (G1)|Road Hugger]], accusing him of trying to undermine the mission. As Venom attempted to persuade his captives to join the Decepticons, he ordered Barrage to blast [[Blaze Master]] as a show of force. Taking his captives and recruits back to Decepticon HQ, Venom passed along a communique from Shockwave (actually a disguised [[Skystalker (G1)|Skystalker]]) to [[Barricade (G1)|Barricade]] and his teammates, summoning them to his quarters. {{storylink|Recipe for Hate}} While attempting to stop an invasion force of Micromasters from freeing their comrades, Venom was skewered by a revived Blaze Master. {{storylink|Victims of the Revolution}}
{{-}}

===''The Battle of the Star Gate''===
When [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]] confronted the two [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]]s on the [[Trigger]], Venom was part of his forces. When the [[Autobot]]s arrived, the [[Decepticon]]s battled them, till the Starscream of the future interrupted the battle by merging with the Trigger. In the ensuing conflict, the Trigger was destroyed and the Transformers were sent falling to the [[Earth]], becoming lost. {{storylink|The Battle of the Star Gate}}

===''G.I. Joe vs the Transformers''===
As part of [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]]'s forces, Venom defended the newly unified Decepticon army's base against a combined Autobot/[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] strike force. During the battle, he and Barrage were pounded on by [[Snarl (G1)|Snarl]] and [[Storm Shadow]]. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 5|The Art of War #5}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
During the early days of the war, Venom served under [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] as part of a team sent to find the lost [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Titan]], [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. On the two-hundred-and-thirty-eighth day of this grueling campaign, Venom and his colleagues destroyed a [[Nibarian]] outpost because they believed it was between them and their quarry. A hunch from [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] led them further to a planet inhabited by [[Urtuskian]]s. As Venom and the other Decepticons started obliterating the primitive outpost, believing Metroplex was underneath (and also because it was fun), their team was caught up to by a team of [[Autobot]]s who had been trailing them. Venom and the other the Decepticons retreated without accomplishing their goal. {{storylink|The Hunting Party (IDW)|The Hunting Party}}
{{--}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
{{picsneeded|Needs toy image.}}
*'''Venom''' (Deluxe Insecticon, 1985)

: Venom is a green and orange [[redeco]] of [[#Notes|''Armored Insect Battalion Beetras'' Beet-Zeguna]] and transforms into a robotic [[wikipedia:cicada|cicada]]. He comes with a small blaster and an axe, and is one of the few Deluxe Insecticons whose arms actually let him aim either in any useful manner.

::*''[http://tfu.info/1985/Decepticon/Venom/venom.htm More information on Venom at TFU.info]''

==Notes==
[[Image:1985MuralDXInsecticons.jpg|thumb|250px]]
* Venom, like all of the Deluxe Insecticons, was designed and originally produced by [[Takatoku Toys]] for inclusion in their ''Armored Insect Battalion Beetras'' toyline (甲虫隊ビートラス). Decoed in black and brown, the mold first saw release under the name Beet-Zeguna. Takatoku Toys went out of business a short while later in 1984, and their assets were purchased by fellow Japanese toymaker [[Bandai]]. At that time, the American market was one Bandai was not very active in, which made it a competitor of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], but not of [[Hasbro]]. Due to this, the company had no objection to licensing various Takatoku molds to Hasbro in 1985 for sale in the American market primarily as part of their version of the [[The Transformers (toyline)|''The Transformers'' toyline]]. Nowadays, Bandai has a worthwhile interest in every market and since it only once licensed the molds, there is little likelihood that Venom and company will ever be put up for reissue.
* Since Hasbro and Takara shared the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] as promotional material for their respective versions of the toyline, Venom and the other Deluxe Insecticons were not included in its cast to avoid giving Japanese market-competitor Bandai free publicity. The group was also omitted from the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|US Marvel comics]] and barely appeared in the UK Marvel comics, making them the least "successful" of the Takatoku molds. This trend has continued in fiction since, the team's current highlight being their role in the ''[[Transformers: Micromasters|Micromasters]]'' comics.
* Barrage, Chop Shop and Venom all appeared in their ''Beetras'' color schemes on Hasbro's 1985 packaging mural, along with several other toys in early or unused color schemes.
* Because of the Deluxe Insecticons' regular absence from fiction, Venom has rarely acted as leader of the whole Insecticon group. Instead, the more prominently appearing Insecticon trio usually seems to be rather communal in leadership, though [[Shrapnel (G1)|Shrapnel]] often gets to be in a leadership position of sorts. Venom is keeping an eye on him.
* Real [[wikipedia:Cicada|cicadas]] have no venom. They don't even bite or sting. They're just noisy.
* Venom has shown no evidence in any fiction of [[Venom (Crossovers)|a desire to eat your brains]].

==References==
{{Reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.diaclone.net/gattaioh/beet/zeg/index.html Beet-Zeguna at Diaclone.net]

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Barrage (Insecticon)

2013-03-25T01:24:57Z

Phantom: /* IDW Generation 1 continuity */ I'm sorry but these have been left to long.

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{{disambig2|the Generation 1 Insecticon|the Generation 1 Autobot Micromaster|Barrage (Micromaster)}}
:''Barrage is a [[Decepticon]] [[Insecticon (G1)|Insecticon]] from the [[Generation 1 continuity family]].''

[[Image:DW G1Barrage.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Crotchguns!]]
'''Barrage''' believes winning is not enough, all must be leveled to the ground, and then the rubble should be burned and the ashes scattered to the wind. Merciless and cruel, he feels kindness of any sort is allowing the enemy hope, and that is unacceptable. He will shoot the retreating and the wounded, and even those taken prisoner. Barrage takes no prisoners. Then he'll keep firing until the battlefield is a smoldering crater. When he's deployed to a battlefield, even the other Decepticons take a few steps back. He's disliked even among their ranks. Maybe it's those beady, creepy little red eyes.

==Fiction==
===Dreamwave Generation 1 continuity===
[[Image:AgeofWrath1 Barrage.jpg|left|200px|thumb|Barrage speaks a delicious pun to an equally delicious hologram.]]
After the fragmentation of the Decepticon forces following [[Megatron (G1)|Megatron]]'s seeming destruction in a [[space bridge]] accident, Barrage joined [[Ratbat (G1)|Ratbat]]'s [[Ultracon]]s. Along with fellow Ultracons [[Chop Shop]] and [[Venom (G1)|Venom]], he was involved in an altercation with [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]], [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] and [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]. Barrage accompanied his leader to the [[Autobot]]/Decepticon peace ceremony at [[Tyger Pax]], where he granted a brief, violent 'interview' to the holo-image of [[Slamdance (G1)|Slamdance]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath}}

When Megatron and his [[Air Warrior|Aerospace Extermination Squadron]] retook [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] and reunified the Decepticons, Barrage was assigned to supervise enslaved Autobot miners at [[Internment Camp Pi]] in [[Praxus]]. While there, he and [[Octane]] delivered a brutal beatdown to the rebellious [[Cliffjumper (G1)|Cliffjumper]], but were beaten back by [[Brawn (G1)|Brawn]]. {{storylink|The Age of Wrath Pt.2}}

Barrage, along with Chop Shop, [[Ransack (G1)|Ransack]], and Venom, remained on Cybertron following the departure of the [[Ark (G1)|Ark]] and the [[Nemesis (G1)|Nemesis]]. The planet's chronic [[energon]] shortage reduced them to a vampiric existence, forcing them to capture [[Micromaster]]s and drain them of their fuel. While pursuing [[Falcon (OC)|Falcon]] and [[Flanker]] in the [[Wastelands]], they ran into the middle of a conflict between the [[Hot Rod Patrol]] and [[Race Track Patrol]]. {{storylink|Destined for Nothing}}

[[Image:VictimsoftheRevolution Barrage dies.jpg|right|250px|thumb|]]
After devouring Falcon they soon set upon the other Micromasters, but were driven back by the timely arrival of [[Groundshaker]], who left with the Hot Rod Patrol. The subsequent arrival of [[Shockwave (G1)|Shockwave]] prevented them from devouring the Race Track Patrol, but he did toss them Flanker as a snack. {{storylink|The Gray Race}} The Insecticons subsequently abducted the Race Track Patrol and several other Micromasters from [[Little Iacon]], in an attempt to ferret out the Hot Rod Patrol and gain some new recruits in the process. When [[Blaze Master]] refused to sign up, Barrage shot him unconscious. En route to Decepticon HQ, Barrage's [[sonic rifle]] was stolen by the kleptomaniacal Chop Shop. {{storylink|Recipe for Hate}} Upon reaching headquarters, Barrage and his cohorts were caught in the middle of a Micromaster invasion. After watching Ransack fall, Barrage was decapitated by [[Roadhandler (G1)|Roadhandler]]. {{storylink|Victims of the Revolution}}

{{-}}
===Devil's Due ''G.I. Joe vs the Transformers'' comics continuity===
As part of [[Serpentor|Serpent O.R.]]'s forces, Barrage defended the newly unified Decepticon army's base against a combined Autobot/[[G.I. Joe (team)|G.I. Joe]] strike force. In the course of the battle, he was shot by [[Lady Jaye]]. {{storylink|The Art of War issue 5|The Art of War #5}}

===IDW Generation 1 continuity===
During the early days of the war, Barrage served under [[Bludgeon (G1)|Bludgeon]] as part of a team sent to find the lost [[Metrotitan (body-type)|Titan]], [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]]. On the two-hundred-and-thirty-eighth day of this grueling campaign, Barrage and his colleagues destroyed a [[Nibarian]] outpost because they believed it was between them and their quarry. A hunch from [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]] led them further to a planet inhabited by [[Urtuskian]]s. As Barrage and the other Decepticons started obliterating the primitive outpost, believing Metroplex was underneath (and also because it was fun), their team was caught up to by a team of [[Autobot]]s who had been trailing them. Barrage was a casualty of this battle, and when the Decepticons retreated without accomplishing their goal, he and [[Waspinator (BW)|Waspinator]] were left behind. {{storylink|The Hunting Party (IDW)|The Hunting Party}}
{{--}}

[[Image:Stormbringer4 DCon groundforces.jpg|left|200px|thumb|YOOOOOOOOOOOO...Cons?]]
Barrage (got off that planet), was later stationed on board the ''[[Thanatos]]''. When [[Thunderwing (G1)|Thunderwing]] returned to decimate Cybertron once more, Barrage joined the battle under [[Headstrong]]'s command, serving as ground forces backing up [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] and the Wreckers in their struggle. {{storylink|Stormbringer issue 4|Stormbringer #4}}

{{-}}

==Toys==
===Generation 1===
[[Image:G1 barrage toy.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Don't laugh at his guns.]]
*'''Barrage''' (Deluxe Insecticon, 1985)
**''Accessories:'' Gun, sword

:A [[redeco]] of [[#Notes|''Armored Insect Battalion Beetras'' Beet-Gadol]], Barrage transforms into a predominantly green and yellow rhinoceros beetle. As a robot, it is among the most posable of all Generation 1 toys. It is also notable for being among the very few insect Transformers to have all of its beast mode legs folded away and out of sight in robot mode.

::*''[http://www.tfu.info/1985/Decepticon/Barrage/barrage.htm More information on Barrage at TFU.info]''
{{-}}
==Notes==
[[Image:1985MuralDXInsecticons.jpg|thumb|250px|]]
* Barrage, like all of the Deluxe Insecticons, was designed and originally produced by [[Takatoku Toys]] for inclusion in their ''Armored Insect Battalion Beetras'' toyline (機甲虫隊ビートラス). Decoed in black and grey, the mold first saw release under the name Beet-Gadol. Takatoku Toys went out of business a short while later in 1984, and their assets were purchased by fellow Japanese toymaker [[Bandai]]. At that time, the American market was one Bandai was not very active in, which made it a competitor of [[TakaraTomy|Takara]], but not of [[Hasbro]]. Due to this, the company had no objection to licensing various Takatoku molds to Hasbro in 1985 for sale in the American market primarily as part of their version of the [[The Transformers (toyline)|''The Transformers'' toyline]]. Nowadays, Bandai has a worthwhile interest in every market and since it only once licensed the molds, there is little likelihood that Barrage and company will ever be put up for reissue.
* Since Hasbro and Takara shared the [[The Transformers (cartoon)|Generation 1 cartoon]] as promotional material for their respective versions of the toyline, Barrage and the other Deluxe Insecticons were not included in its cast to avoid giving Japanese market-competitor Bandai free publicity. The group was also omitted from the [[The Transformers (Marvel comic)|US Marvel comics]] and barely appeared in the UK Marvel comics, making them the least "successful" of the Takatoku molds. This trend has continued in fiction since, the team's current highlight being their role in the ''[[Transformers: Micromasters|Micromasters]]'' comics.
* Barrage, Chop Shop and Venom all appeared in their ''Beetras'' color schemes on Hasbro's 1985 packaging mural, along with several other toys in early or unused color schemes.
* Poor Barrage was one of several Transformers that never got a ''[[The Transformers Universe]]'' bio. One was written by Budiansky but was rarely seen [http://boltax.blogspot.com/2010/12/extended-bios.html until it was put on the ''Disciples of Boltax'' blog].

==External links==
*[http://www.diaclone.net/gattaioh/beet/gad/index.html Beet-Gadol at Diaclone.net] (Japanese)

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Talk:The Hunting Party (IDW)

2013-03-24T15:49:18Z

Phantom:

== inconsistencies? or spelling error? ==

About the ships name, can you really call a one letter difference being inconsistent? Seem more like a Spelling mistake.
[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 11:49, 24 March 2013 (EDT)

Talk:The Hunting Party (IDW)

2013-03-24T15:47:52Z

Phantom: inconsistencies? or spelling error?

== inconsistencies? or spelling error? ==

About the ships name, can you really call a one letter difference being inconsistent? Seem more like a Spelling mistake.

User:Phantom

2013-03-22T13:54:55Z

Phantom:

Under Cold Blue Stars

2013-03-22T12:46:42Z

Phantom: /* Errors */ I can't belive you guys missed that? It's right on the back of the cover!

{{Comicstory
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|next=
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|image=MTMTE15 cvrA.jpg
|title="Under Cold Blue Stars"
|publisher=[[IDW Publishing]]
|date=[[March 20]], [[2013]]
|coverdate=March 2013
|story by=[[James Roberts]]
|pencils by=[[Alex Milne]]
|inks by=Alex Milne, [[Marc Deering]], [[Brian Shearer]] and [[Phyllis Novin]]
|colors by=[[Josh Burcham]] with [[Josh Perez]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
|letters by=[[Tom B. Long]]
|assistant editor=[[Mariel Romero-Ocaranza]]
|editor=[[John Barber]]
|continuity=[[IDW Generation 1 continuity|IDW continuity]]
|chronology=[[IDW timeline|Current era (2013)]]
}}
'''Chromedome must face the consequences of his actions as Overlord runs wild on the ''Lost Light'', and not everyone survives...'''

==Synopsis==
''Mere seconds pass as [[Chromedome (G1)|Chromedome]] overcomes his brief paralysis and races to open the [[slow cell]] [[Overlord (Masterforce)|Overlord]] left him in. But thirty minutes have passed outside the cell, and Chromedome steps out into a warzone!''

''Thirty minutes earlier...''

As the ''Lost Light'' is currently passing through an asteroid belt, [[Blaster (G1)|Blaster]] has been charged with cutting a path for the ship through the space-rocks, but lets Whirl vent a little of his frustration by allowing him to blow up one of the asteroids with the ship's targeting system. The pair are then joined on the bridge by [[Pipes (G1)|Pipes]], who is inquiring if Blaster has made contact with [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]] yet; he has not, and is unlikely to, but Pipes leaves him with a message to send to [[Hubcap (G1)|Hubcap]] on the offchance that contact is made while he is attending movie night. Puttering down the ship's corridors in vehicle mode, Pipes rounds a corridor and bumps into someone's foot, and briefly starts to apologise before looking up to see the sole of Overlord's gigantic boot coming down toward him. Stomped repeatedly by the Decepticon until his body is utterly shattered beyond repair, Pipes's [[spark]] extinguishes, but not before he is able to trigger the alarm system.

Across the ''Lost Light'', life is proceeding as normal. [[Rewind (G1)|Rewind]] visits [[Brainstorm]] in his lab, concerned from recent nightmares of Chromedome's that his partner and the scientist are up to something, and is accompanied by [[Swerve (G1)|Swerve]], who accidentally subjects himself to the effects of Brainstorm's [[metafictional bomb]], which makes him think he is a fictional character; [[Perceptor (G1)|Perceptor]] tells [[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] that the map within the [[Matrix of Leadership]] cannot be copied; [[Rung]] visits [[Fortress Maximus (G1)|Fortress Maximus]] in the brig and forgives him for his actions; and [[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] works on an unseen project in [[Hoist (G1)|Hoist]]'s workshop, until [[Skids (G1)|Skids]] rushes in to warn him that [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]] is furious, having discovered that movie night is to be held in the pair's quarters. All of these domestic scenes are loudly interrupted by the sounding of the alarm, which also prompts [[Ratchet (G1)|Ratchet]], down in the medibay, to radio up to Rodimus for information. The medibay is also chosen by Overlord as his first port of call, but Ratchet is able to detect his presence and hold him off long enough for [[Drift (G1)|Drift]] to arrive and join him in squaring off against the Decepticon titan.

Rodimus and the vast majority of the rest of the crew arrive to the sight of a legless Drift and a badly beaten Ratchet, and [[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] is the first to charge into action, still carrying guilt over the fates of the Wreckers he left to face Overlord on [[Garrus-9]]. After a brief beating, Overlord seizes Magnus's fist with ease and begins to laugh: he has realised that Ultra Magnus has not been holding back, while he himself has. Overlord stabs Magnus through the spark with Drift's [[Great Sword]], and is then set upon by the rest of the crew; [[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] rushes to the fallen Magnus's aid, but regretfully confirms that while he may be able to slow the rate of his spark's shrinkage, he will not be able to save him.

Chromedome arrives on the scene just as Overlord seizes Rodimus and prepares to turn his finger-drills on him, asking the Autobot leader for any last words. When Rodimus replies "[['Til all are one]]", however, the result is most unexpected: Overlord goes wide-eyed, drops him, and begins panicking. As the liberated Fortress Maximus appears on the scene to take up the fight, eager for revenge against Overlord, Chromedome explains to Drift that while in Overlord's mind, he carried out a process known as "[[Trepan's Trigger]]", altering the Decepticon's memories so that the phrase was associated with all his past defeats; thus, when Rodimus ''inevitably'' said it, it would trigger Overlord's pathological fear of defeat. Hurt and confused by what he hears of the conversation, Rewind tries to talk to his partner, but greater matters take priority: Chromedome assures him they will talk later as he has Maximus force the shell-shocked Overlord back into the slow cell, intending to jettison it from the ship. But another of Drift's stolen swords sticks in the doors and prevents them from closing all the way, so Rewind bravely squeezes through the small gap between the doors and pulls it free, even as Chromedome reaches out to stop him. The doors slam shut, severing Chromedome's arm and trapping Rewind in the cell, and the ejection countdown begins. Chromedome tries to tell Rewind something, but his words go unheard through the door's glass, while Rewind, equally unheard, apologises to his partner for things not working out. As the cell falls away from the ship, Rewind turns to see Overlord looming over him...

Chromedome races to the ship's bridge, and locks onto the cell with the targeting system. Intent on sparing Rewind the horror of being trapped with Overlord, he fires upon the cell in an act of mercy. As it explodes, Chromedome collapses in anguish.

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*[[Hot Rod (G1)|Rodimus]] (5)
*[[Jackpot (G1)|Jackpot]] (6)
*[[Trailbreaker (G1)|Trailbreaker]] (7)
*[[Blades (G1)|Blades]] (8)
*[[Dogfight]] (9)
*[[Ambulon]] (10)
*[[Boss (G1)|Boss]] (11)
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*[[Smokescreen (G1)|Smokescreen]] (20)
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*[[Tailgate (G1)|Tailgate]] (36)
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*[[First Aid (G1)|First Aid]] (40)
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==Quotes==

"What makes you think I've even '''seen''' Chromedome?" 
"Because you're friends with him, and because... because..." 
"Come on, '''Rewind''', 'because...'" 
"Because he's been saying your name in his sleep." 
"Whoa! Who's more embarrassed, you or me? Clue: IT'S YOU."
:—'''Brainstorm''' and '''Rewind'''

"Oi—ship's genius—what happens if I press this button?" 
"Don't press it. Did you press it? '''Swerve?''' Tell me you didn't press it." 
"Course I didn't press it... but what if I '''had''' pressed it?" 
:—'''Swerve''' and '''Brainstorm''', pre meta-bomb

"Guess what? I pressed it. Nothing happened." 
"I didn't see you press it..." 
"Yeah, it must have happened '''off-panel.'''" 
:—'''Swerve''' and '''Rewind''', post meta-bomb

"Rodimus? Tool up and get down to the medibay. Bring EVERYONE. And if anything happens to me, tell '''First Aid''' he's ready, tell '''Whirl''' he can have my hands, and tell all my '''patients'''... that they'll have to make new appointments."
:—'''Ratchet''', badass.

"Everyone can die. Trust me, I know about these things."
:—'''Cyclonus'''

"You're angry." 
"No, I'm past that. It's—what I feel is worse than anger. In fact I don't know—" 
"What?" 
"I really don't know if I can forgive you for this." 
"We'll finish this conversation later. We will. I promise."
:—'''Chromedome''' and '''Rewind'''

"I'm sorry, Domey. I'm sorry things didn't work out."
:—'''Rewind'''

==Notes==
*All the Autobots appearing in the issue's opening double-page spread are ones who have been seen among the ship's crew of 200-ish already, save one—[[Blades (G1)|Blades]], who, true to form, is looking a bit ''too'' excited about the possibility of a bloody good scrap.
*Also in the double-page spread, Ambulon is crashing a [[Mobile Autobot Repair Bay|M.A.R.B.]] into Overlord's back. The arrows in Overlord's torso, meanwhile, indicate that bow-fancier [[Atomizer]] got a few good shots in.
*The subspace communicator's failure to work was noted in [[More than Meets the Eye issue 13|issue #13]]'s "[[Signal to Noise]]".
*Pipes refers to when he "got a bit sick"—with [[Red Rust]], back in [[Life After the Big Bang|issue #5]]—and "a bit shot"—by Fortress Maximus ([[Interiors|#6]]), Decepticons ([[Before & After|#12]]), and Brainstorm (mentioned in [[Cybertronian Homesick Blues|#13]]). His streak of bad luck culminates in the ultimate in misfortune that befalls him this issue, as he is the first of the crew to die by Overlord's hand. Er, foot.
[[File:IDWMtMtE15-FortMaxOverlordThwok.jpg|thumb|300px|I prefer to CAPSMAK, myself. Others enjoy a good DETHTRPPP. But Max is just a THWOK sorta guy.]]
*The schematic on the screen behind Brainstorm is of a spaceship-mode Fortress Maximus. Note that this isn't Max's alternate mode in IDW continuity; we get our first fleeting glimpse of his vehicle form on page 17 of this issue (right).
*Two very small Perceptor-like scientific instruments were among those on Brainstorm's desk last issue; between then and now, he has clearly abandoned all pretense, as a ''huge'' Perceptor-like microscope is sitting on view in his lab.
*The Decepticons in the brig have been prisoners there since their capture in [[Before & After|issue #12]]. Their identities are hard to discern as they are all cast in blue light, but the one with the squid tentacles is assuredly [[Tentakil (G1)|Tentakil]], not least of all because the [[Seacon (G1)|Seacon]]s were among those involved in that adventure.
*Ultra Magnus left the Wreckers off at Garrus-9 in [[Last Stand of the Wreckers issue 2|''Last Stand of the Wreckers'' #2]], before going off to join the proceedings in the [[The Transformers (IDW)|ongoing series]]. A bad decision on many levels.
*First Aid uses exactly the same sentence to describe Magnus's diminishing spark—"His spark is shrinking by the second"—as he used to summarize the wounded Rewind's condition in issue #12. Foreshadowing the events of this issue, he remarked in #12 that "A bigger 'bot—a Magnus—would bounce back." Oooooh, guess not.
*Speaking of foreshadowing for Magnus's fate, it's really been painted all over the series from the outset. Magnus's [http://ryalltime.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/mtmte-teaser-ultra-magnus/ original promotional image for the series] promised that "Ultra Magnus won't make it", and his looming expiry has even been thematically alluded to with such visuals as his name written on the side of [[Torque (G1)|a bomb]] in [[Scavengers (Part 2): Who's Afraid of the DJD?|issue #8]]. That, and, uh, Overlord is punching straight through his stomach on the cover of this very issue. Marked for death, indeed.
*All of this said? Magnus is not actually seen to die on-panel.
*When Swerve starts speechifying during the battle ("Death in the ranks!" etc), he is actually quoting IDW's original catalogue solicitation for this issue, under the influence of the meta-bomb.
*Overlord has finger-drills as part of his rudimentary training in [[mnemosurgery]]; he notes that he wanted to have needles, like the other practitioners of the science we have seen, such as Chromedome and [[Trepan]], for whom "Trepan's Trigger" is named.
*"'Til all are one" appeared amongst Overlord's memories a few times last issue, and most readers noticed it, since it was added into one scene we had seen before where it was not originally spoken.
*As he squeezes through the door to remove the sword, Rewind remarks that "Every shape serves a purpose", a slogan we have heard a few times during ''More than Meets the Eye'', which originated back in the days of [[Functionism]]. Specifically, though, we ''first'' heard it waaay back in the [[Liars, A to D Part 1: How to Say Goodbye and Mean It|very first issue]]... when Rewind uttered it in response to being teased over his alternate mode. We can't handle this much foreshadowing, you guys.
*We don't know what Chromedome is trying to tell Rewind, of course—in shmaltzy-movie-land, he'd probably just be trying to say "I love you", but a possible dark slant is suggested by last issue's revelation that Chromedome has kept a horrible secret about his past from Rewind.
*This issue's "Meet the Cast" pages is modified to add large red X's over Ultra Magnus, Rewind and Pipes.
*''All'' the letters in this issue's letters page are from women. That's pretty awesome.

===Real-life references===
*This issue is named after the indie folk album ''{{w|Under Cold Blue Stars}}'' by {{w|Josh Rouse}}.
*We hardly need to explain the real-life concept of the {{w|fourth wall}} to you, do we?

===Errors===
*Seems like the letters page included in this issue was originally intended to see print in issue #14, given the reply to Catherine's letter, which remarks on several features of that issue's story, and not this one's.
*In the Story So Far section Decepticon is misspelt Deceoticon.

===Crew manifest===
*Pipes is killed and Ultra Magnus is fatally wounded by Overlord; Chromedome kills Rewind in an act of mercy.
*7 deaths, one fatal wounding and 5 new arrivals (plus 20 or so Faders) since the launch.

===Covers (3)===
*'''Cover A:''' Overlord on the rampage and the Autobots suffering the consequences, by [[Alex Milne]] and [[Joana Lafuente]]
*'''Cover B:''' An abstract image of Rodimus floating in space as Overlord's sumptuous lips close in around him, by [[Nick Roche]] and [[Josh Burcham]]
*'''Cover RI:''' Monochrome green bust shot of Overlord by [[Marcelo Matere]], continuing the previous two months' "bust" theme for the RI covers, paralleling the RI cover to ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[Plan for Everything|#15]].

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{{welcome}}

Stop adding useless notes to articles. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:26, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
: only if you stop being a little A-hole. why have you got to be bully and pick on the new guy just because he spotted something you missed?
::The article's been up since March. If it was noteworthy it would've been up prior. He's a Cybertronian and the Gorlam Prime stories did not establish ''every'' Micromaster as a Jhiaxus minion. Likewise, why is "Sky Lynx can fit somewhere" so noteworthy? --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 13:39, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
::Look, Phantom. I think Detour is trying to help you to understand the Wiki better. In the IDW comics continuity, things are a bit different in it like characters and stuff. An example is in this one, Fixit is a regular guy. I know that's a bit confusing but that's how IDW rolls, so everything in those comics aren't accurate to everything in Transformers. Oh yeah, by the way, I don't know a whole lot of Transformers but I do basically know every main character that ever existed. Minor characters are pretty hard to remember so I get IDW's pain of trying to keep track of them and make them reappear in the comics. (lobythelegend 13:56, 22 June 2012 (EDT))
:::Thanks ed it's just when you see something and you thing it's interesting and you want to tell others just to have someone you don't know say shut up no one cares what you have to say it really puts you down.[[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 14:18, 22 June 2012 (EDT)
:You could share it on Facebook or those places? (lobythelegend 17:18, 22 June 2012 (EDT))

== Jealousy ==

it's a horrible thing...

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2013-03-18T00:22:41Z

Phantom:

The Question

2013-03-18T00:20:14Z

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'''His leadership questioned at every turn, Bumblebee sets out on a solo mission to stop the Decepticons returning to Cybertron.'''

==Synopsis==

With [[Optimus Prime (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Optimus Prime]] and the majority of the [[Autobot]] forces on their way back to [[Cybertron (planet)|Cybertron]], [[Bumblebee (G1)|Bumblebee]] and the small contingent under his command remain on [[Earth]], searching for the [[Decepticon]]s that remain in hiding on the planet. Unfortunately, the search is not going well, and Bumblebee finds himself doubting his own leadership abilities, constantly asking himself what Optimus would do in his place. Returning to [[Omega Supreme (G1)|Omega Supreme]] following another failure to turn up any hiding 'cons alongside [[Hot Spot (G1)|Hot Spot]] and [[Groove (G1)|Groove]], Bumblebee argues with [[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] over the significance of the potential Decepticon threat. The police-bot insists that as a known quantity, the Decepticons come second to the unknown quantity of the possible threat posed by corruption among their [[Spike Witwicky (G1)|human allies]] that he is currently investigating. Prowl requisitions Groove to aid him, annoying Bumblebee enough that the little bot insists that Prowl respect his authority. Prowl snorts, declaring it a matter of who is ''right'', not who is ''in charge'', and leaves with Groove and [[Streetwise (G1)|Streetwise]]. Hot Spot tries to cheer Bumblebee up, but all he does is remind him of his current injuries.

Left to his own devices, Bumblebee pays a call on [[Thundercracker (G1)|Thundercracker]], who is the process of packing up his belongings and moving out of his hideaway. Uninterested in helping, Thundercracker tells Bumblebee that he's not cut out for leadership, but the little 'bot insists that both Earth and Cybertron must be protected. The mention of Cybertron causes Thundercracker to remark that getting back there would be no easy task for the Decepticons, following the destruction of their [[space bridge]]... which in turn reminds both 'bots that [[Megatron (G1)/IDW Generation 1 continuity|Megatron]] can now open space bridges with his new body. They realize that Megatron allowed himself to be taken prisoner to take advantage of this fact, prompting Thundercracker to relent and provide Bumblebee with records of the space bridge radiation signature he obtained in their past meeting with [[Metroplex (G1)|Metroplex]].

Bumblebee takes Thundercracker's records to his human friend [[Sanjay Bharwaney]], who uses the equipment at [[Darkmatter Logic]] to scan the planet for the signature, locating it in the vicinity of an ancient Native American settlement. Heading there as night falls, Bumblebee discovers the Decepticon army gathered around a space bridge terminal, awaiting its opening. Opting for stealth, 'Bee attempts to sneak in and sabotage the bridge before it activates, but no sooner has he reached the terminal than it flares to life, illuminating him for all the Decepticons to see. [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] orders the [[Stunticon (G1)|Stunticons]] to take care of Bumblebee while the other Decepticons go through the bridge; the fight is, unsurprisingly, a brutal and one-sided one, until Bumblebee has a brainwave and jams his cane into one of the bridge's power conduits, disrupting its power flow and causing explosive feedback that destroys the bridge and knocks all five Stunticons out.

Bumblebee hauls his prisoners back to Omega Supreme by dawn—much to the shock of all the other Autobots—and takes charge, explaining the threat that Prime's forces now face, and the need to wrap up their mission on Earth. With orders handed out, 'Bee enters Omega, calling for Prowl to follow him for a meeting, and Prowl smiles: Bumblebee is finally doing what Optimus would.

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*[[Ultra Magnus (G1)|Ultra Magnus]] (10)
*[[Prowl (G1)|Prowl]] (11)
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*[[Breakdown (G1)|Breakdown]] (7)
*[[Drag Strip (G1)|Drag Strip]] (8)
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*[[Astrotrain (G1)|Astrotrain]] (16)
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*[[Blitzwing (G1)|Blitzwing]] (18)
*[[Soundwave (G1)|Soundwave]] (19)
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==Quotes==

"The little guy's got more '''spark''' than I gave him '''credit''' for these last couple million years. Taking down five '''bad guys''' on his own—and '''blaming''' himself for not stopping a '''hundred''' more? And '''then''' coming home and taking '''control'''? That's what Prime would do."
:—'''Prowl''', on Bumblebee

==Notes==

*As the note on the inside front cover says, this story takes place during the events of "Police Action", the story which ran in issues [[Police Action: Part 1|#25]], [[Police Action Part 2: Only Forward|#27]] and [[Police Action Part 3: A Second Chance at Eden|#29]] of the [[The Transformers (IDW)|ongoing series]]. Its precise placement is not detailed, but specifically, it would appear to take place concurrently with #25, with Groove's absence in that part of the story explained here by having Prowl send him off on a mission off-panel. However, #27 had Wheeljack conferring with Prowl via holo-projection while he was still aboard Omega Supreme's rocket, implying that the Autobots hadn't reached Cybertron yet, which would make the timing of the Decepticons space bridge departure problematic, as they didn't arrive on Cybertron until ''after'' the Autobots.
*By that same token, the story also occurs concurrently with the events of "[[Chaos (IDW)|Chaos]]", which ran in the issues of the ongoing that alternated with the "Police Action" chapters. The Decepticons would emerge through the space bridge they are shown entering here in the third chapter of that story, in [[Chaos Part Three: Kings|issue #28]]. The bridge terminal is of the same claw-like curved-pylon design as that seen in ''[[The Transformers: All Hail Megatron|All Hail Megatron]]'' [[All Hail Megatron issue 7|#7]].
*The original encounter between Bumblebee, Thundercracker and Metroplex was detailed in ''[[The Hunting Party (IDW)|Spotlight: Thundercracker]]''. More recently, chronology-wise, Bumblebee petitioned Thundercracker for aid in [[International Incident Part 2: "Ranks of Bronze"|ongoing #10]]; further unsolicited visits to Thundercracker's "man cave" occurred in [[Revenge of the Decepticons Part 2: Altered Carbon|#15]] and [[Revenge of the Decepticons Part 3: Woken Furies|#16]], leading him to pack it up and move, as seen here.
*Bumblebee met Sanjay Bharwaney in his [[The Transformers: Bumblebee|self-titled mini-series]].
*The ongoing series was ''painfully'' vague on why Megatron allowed himself to be captured by the Autobots. This issue finally has someone give the out-and-out explanation in dialogue: Megatron needed a ride back to Cybertron so that his body's Space Bridge tech could open a portal home for the Decepticon army.
*Breakdown comments that he "owes the Autobots a little somethin'," evidently a reference to the scrap with Prowl and Streetwise he has in ongoing #25, which timeline-wise he has probably only just returned from, as is still showing visible signs of damage from.
*After his stunt channelling the space bridge power flow through his cane, Bumblebee quips that he must get [[Wheeljack (G1)|Wheeljack]] to "make him one of these." He would have a zappy-cane in ''[[The Transformers: Robots in Disguise|Robots in Disguise]]'' [[The World & Everything in It|#2]].
*With the revelation that the Stunticons were left behind on Earth, the Decepticons' decision to rely on a physically crippled [[Devastator (G1)|Devastator]] during the battle over in "Chaos", rather than a functional [[Menasor (G1)|Menasor]], makes a bit more sense.

===Errors===

*Early promotional images of the covers for this issue misspelled it ''Spotlight: Bubmblebee.'' It's fine in the finished edition.
*Doctor Bharwaney's name is misspelled "Bharmaney".
*Starscream has his ''[[Transformers: War for Cybertron (franchise)|War for Cybertron]]'' body way before he gets it in Robots in Disguise.

===Covers (4)===
* '''Cover A:''' The shadows of the Stunticons fall over a battered Bumblebee, armed with his cane, by David Daza and Esther Sanz
* '''Cover B:''' Bumblebee with a new arm-gun, by [[Livio Ramondelli]]
* '''Cover RI:''' Bumblebee by [[Clayton Crain]]
* '''Convention Exclusive:''' Mirror-flipped, cropped-in version of cover RI, available through (a?) currently-unknown convention(s?).
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2013-03-08T14:24:44Z

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If both the (titled) prologue and (untitled-in-the-issue) main story are on this page, shouldn't it be at [[More than Meets the Eye issue 14]]? - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 14:49, 6 March 2013 (EST)
:Eh, it's kind of debatable, I'd say. 'Signal to Noise' was a separate story, whereas 'A Functionist Calls' is explicitly a prologue for the main story. We wouldn't split off the prologue of a novel to a separate page, so I'd (personally) say that the same holds here. [[User:Jalaguy|Jalaguy]] 14:56, 6 March 2013 (EST)
::Indeed, such was my thinking. The prologue is part of this story, "Signal to Noise" is a separate story to "Cybertronian Homesick Blues." - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 18:25, 6 March 2013 (EST)

== Kind Of Thing? ==

Is anyone else getting a Father & Son thing from Megs and OL?

Talk:Cybertronian Homesick Blues

2013-02-08T15:32:12Z

Phantom:

== Rung's Avatar ==

Might have to ask Roberts for confirmation, but from the look of things I have to wonder if Rung's final holomatter avatar, not the one that was on the cover, was actually intended to be him. It looks ''rather'' similar to our bio photo of him. Maybe that's part of the joke?--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 12:01, 7 February 2013 (EST)
:Well geez, I'm going to feel pretty bad about describing him as a "tweed-wearing nebbish" if it is! o-O - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 13:00, 7 February 2013 (EST)
::I've tweeted both Guidi and Roberts for confirmation. No response as of yet, but we'll see!--[[User:Rosicrucian|Rosicrucian]][[User Talk:Rosicrucian|Talk]] 15:56, 7 February 2013 (EST)

On the subject of the cover avatars, I kind of wonder if Skids' avatar on the cover is a miscoloured ''Tenth'' Doctor avatar, and the Eleven avatar in the interior is a different expression of the same joke. [Bright blond hair doesn't evoke James Bond anyway] - [[User:SanityOrMadness|SanityOrMadness]] 16:50, 7 February 2013 (EST)
:I feel like that's far too broad, powerful and... well-groomed-looking a guy to be the Tenth Doctor. Plus, Daniel Craig's blond. - [[User:Chris McFeely|Chris McFeely]] 16:59, 7 February 2013 (EST)
:: Yeah, that little kerchief poking out of his pocket is totes not a Dr. Who thing. That's superspy formal wear. He's Daniel Craig. --[[User:ItsWalky|ItsWalky]] 17:08, 7 February 2013 (EST)

While we're talking about Avatars should their be a Note about the fact Tailgate's was a Baby and Whirl's was a little girl? I'm only saying this because it's said that the Avatars would reflect their psyches. - [[User:Phantom|Phantom]] 10:32, 8 February 2013 (EST)